[22:12] <stevja> Have some of you tried Ubuntu MID on Acer aspire one v. 8GB SSD? I want to go away from fedora linpus.
[22:13] <sambagirl> on the same system?
[22:13] <cjae> is anyone running the newest version of google earth successfully, I believe it is 4.3?
[22:13] <giovani> sambagirl: yes, I give our users both as an option, on the same webmail system
[22:13] <sambagirl> ahh
[22:13] <sambagirl> i see.
[22:13] <giovani> sambagirl: also look at atmailopen
[22:13] <sambagirl> i never thought of that.
[22:13] <cjae> well newest from medibuntu
[22:13] <IntuitiveNipple> cjae: newest version of Earth is 5.0. It is a lot faster than 4.3
[22:13] <giovani> sambagirl: http://atmail.org/
[22:13] <sambagirl> thanks giovani brbv
[22:13] <IntuitiveNipple> cjae: But, I've run all versions without problems
[22:13] <sambagirl>  brb
[22:13] <giovani> sambagirl: it's a previously commercial product that has been released as open source now
[22:14] <yoyit2> giovani: well can you give me a link or somthing to tell me how to do it
[22:14] <sheena1> on Intrepid, firefox covers taskbars after i click a link in thunderbird. Tried the fix on the ubuntu forum (changing the localstore file), and tried compiz. help?
[22:14] <MasterMoose> Hi,
[22:14] <MasterMoose> Who can giude a newbie with Webcams and Skype
[22:14] <prahal> MasterMoose, what s your issue ?
[22:15] <cjae> IntuitiveNipple: ok but it keeps crashing for me and says I don't have ttf-bitstream-vera installed and I do, I works if you switch it to sky but not earth
[22:15] <prahal> not detected ? which ubuntu/kernel do you use ?
[22:15] <MasterMoose> hi Prahal.. I have a USB webcam, and a PCi TV tuner. Skype only recognises the Tuner and not the Web cam.. CamStream recognises both
[22:15] <IntuitiveNipple> cjae: What Ubuntu release is that on? Intrepid or Hardy or... ?
[22:15] <cjae> 8.10
[22:16] <yoyit2> giovani: well thanks anyways ill just use vista because its beter
[22:16] <giovani> yoyit2: thanks for trolling
[22:16] <LHC> hey
[22:16] <LHC> i just installed ubuntu, can someone helped me with compiz
[22:16] <alaz> MasterMoose, unplug the device and open up a shell write: tail -f /var/log/messages and plug the device back in. see what it says
[22:16] <cjae> IntuitiveNipple: intrepid and I can't find any info about on google either,
[22:16]  * KevDog laughs: "well thanks anyways ill just use vista because its beter"
[22:17] <tinker> Hi.  I'm Ubuntu 8.10,  how can I delete options from the "open with" context menu in nautilus?
[22:17] <sambagirl> umm giovani i am so used to using horde/imp that i just dont know about these ajax flashy things.
[22:17] <alaz> LHC, apt-get install fusion-icon should give all deps and a nice config tool
[22:17] <LHC> thanks
[22:17] <sambagirl> there is another one that starts with a C but i forget the name of it.
[22:17] <LHC> I did installed compiz manager and it didnt really work
[22:17] <sambagirl> its on my macbook but i odnt have it here with me.
[22:18] <LHC> alaz, what do I do after than
[22:18] <sambagirl> is there a way to install the email server via synape supository manager?
[22:18] <cjae> IntuitiveNipple: I assume maybe that there is something missing from my auto generated xorg.conf but I have everything else working, and no onboard graphics (nvidia card)
[22:18] <IntuitiveNipple> cjae: As an experiment, create a new *clean* user account, log-in as that user, and try Earth. If that works at least you'll know it is a user-profile issue. On the other hand, it might prove it is a system issue
[22:18] <sambagirl> should i use ebox for it?
[22:19] <alaz> LHC, exec fusion-icon from a shell
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: it can be quite complex
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> !email | sambagirl
[22:19] <LHC> thanks alaz
[22:19] <ian[2]> Still having trouble using apt-get & aptitude to install subversion.. Getting "E: Couldn't find package subversion." Anyone else have any suggestions?
[22:19] <alaz> LHC, should create a icon in your tray that you can right click and play with
[22:19] <quibbler> tinker: right click the file in nautilus choose properties open with and delete what you don't want
[22:19] <giovani> sambagirl: yes, any package can be installed via synapse
[22:19] <MasterMoose> Hi Alaz just sent the result to you
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MailServer
[22:19] <giovani> sambagirl: I don't know of any webmail that starts with a c, sorry
[22:19] <sambagirl> actuionparsnip i just dont want to get burned by email seciurity things anytime soon.
[22:19] <nightrid3r> sambagirl: you already have a mailserver installed by default
[22:20] <sambagirl> iwhat like pine?
[22:20] <sambagirl> bah
[22:20] <cjae> IntuitiveNipple: it in kde 4.2 which is buggy to say the least but I have read ppl with similar issue but no kde and no followup
[22:20] <tinker> quibbler:  thanks!
[22:20] <sambagirl> thats like using vi
[22:20] <giojotoca> join #ubuntu-es
[22:20] <zash> sambagirl: round Cube webmail?
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> nowt wrong with vi
[22:20] <nightrid3r> sambagirl: pine is a mail client not a server
[22:20] <sambagirl> zash i looked at it. i will think about it.
[22:20] <KevDog> ian[2]: Have you enabled all of your repositories?
[22:21] <sambagirl> ahh ok i did not know that.
[22:21] <LHC> alaz, this is cool
[22:21] <LHC> i got the spinning desktop thing
[22:21] <LHC> do you know the bind to switch desktops
[22:21] <sambagirl> you got the clube lhc?
[22:21] <prahal> MasterMoose, I bet "LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype"
[22:21] <zash> sambagirl: squirrelmail is pretty god
[22:21] <LHC> yes sambagirl
[22:21] <nightrid3r> sambagirl: mail servers are sendmail, postfix, exim, qmail .....
[22:21] <sambagirl> squirellmail
[22:21] <sambagirl> oh ok
[22:22] <KevDog> Flurdy has a good post in the Ubuntu Forums about setting up a mail server
[22:22] <prahal> just a guess. With more input it will be easier to find out
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> sambagirl: zimbra exists too
[22:22] <sambagirl> YES zimbra
[22:22] <thiebaude> yo yo yo
[22:22] <sambagirl> yes yea yea
[22:22] <ian[2]> KevDog: How do I go about doing that?
[22:22] <thiebaude> lol
[22:22] <sambagirl> vthat is it zimbra
[22:22] <sambagirl> yes
[22:22] <sambagirl> brb
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo thiebaude
[22:22] <FloodBot1> sambagirl: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:22] <ian[2]> I'm a former Fedora user, and not familiar with Ubuntu yet..
[22:22] <thiebaude> what's up ActionParsnip
[22:22] <nightrid3r> sambagirl: webmail = squirlemail, roundcube, horde .....
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: chillin
[22:22] <thiebaude> me too
[22:23] <sambagirl> i use horde/imp right now.
[22:23] <sheena11> on Intrepid, firefox covers taskbars after i click a link in thunderbird. Tried the fix on the ubuntu forum (changing the localstore file), and tried compiz. help?
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> ian[2]: well we're here to support
[22:23] <sambagirl> but i think i will use zimbra as the alternative.
[22:23] <sambagirl> they have clients for osx and windows
[22:23] <KevDog> ian[2]: edit your /etc/apt/sources list and make sure multiverse and universe repositories are enabled by removing the # sign in the front of the line, and then sudo aptitude update
[22:23] <LHC> does compiz come with themes
[22:23] <LHC> I hate the stock theme
[22:23] <sambagirl> thanks i forgot all about zimbra
[22:23] <nightrid3r> sambagirl: multiplatform client, try thunderbird
[22:24] <s3a> y doesnt xournal work in intrepid? the exact same version works in debian lenny!
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> s3a: dont install debian debs on ubuntu
[22:24] <ian[2]> KevDog: running that now.. Thanks for the info.. I'm more familiar with yum than apt/aptitude... so this is all new to me..
[22:24] <sambagirl> well there are problems with firefox lately the latest update is faulty and i am losing my confidence in the firefox project sorta.
[22:24] <jara04> hello,. i've got a problem i can't install 8.04 when i press to install, the installation program takes me to the shell, i don't wat to work with 8.10.. what can i do?
[22:24] <KevDog> ian[2]: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:24] <ian[2]> KevDog: Okay -- it's working now...
[22:24] <s3a> ActionParsnip, i installed from repository not from debian (it's the same version)
[22:24] <prahal> I for one use dovecot + (horde/im, roundcube and evolution/kmail/thunderbird)
[22:24] <KevDog> ian[2]: Just wanted to clarify
[22:25] <ian[2]> KevDog: I guess it was the update I needed to run.. The multiverse & universe weren't commented out...
[22:25] <chuckc> is there a way to completely clear out existing mdadm raid setups ?
[22:25] <The_Rebel> sambagirl, i've been hearing the same thing from others (even on different OSes)
[22:25] <The_Rebel> glad i didn't update :p
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> s3a: then check configs
[22:25] <prahal> and fetchmail/procmail to get all the emails in dovecot as maildirs
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> !raid | chuckc
[22:25] <KevDog> ian[2]: I wasnt sure what repository it was in, so sorry
[22:25] <s3a> ActionParsnip, o wait i meant xournal works in intrepid but it doesn't write
[22:25] <ian[2]> KevDog: I'm running this as my sources.list..
[22:25] <ivancho> chuckc: try mdadm -r /dev/mdX
[22:25] <thiebaude> The_Rebel: can't wait until  google chrome is ready for linux
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> !info xournal
[22:26] <KevDog> ian[2]: General tip to upgrade packages: sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> s3a: why not just use gedit?
[22:26] <The_Rebel> i second that thiebaude, Chrome is awesome.
[22:26] <thiebaude> i used it on xp
[22:26] <s3a> ActionParsnip, use gedit to do wat?
[22:26] <The_Rebel> samzies
[22:26] <ian[2]> KevDog: Thanks.. Is aptitude similar to apt as svn is similar to cvs?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> The_Rebel: try opera, kicks ass outta firefox
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> s3a: take notes
[22:27] <jara04> ello,. i've got a problem i can't install 8.04 when i press to install, the installation program takes me to the shell, i don't wat to work with 8.10.. what can i do?
[22:27] <thiebaude> i agree ActionParsnip
[22:27] <The_Rebel> opera has a lame GUI.
[22:27] <Flannel> ian[2]: No, aptitude is a frontend to apt, much like apt-get is a frontend, synaptic is a frontend, etc.
[22:27] <The_Rebel> i like the magic wand feature though
[22:27] <s3a> ActionParsnip, no i rely need a feature of it, tomboy is even better than gedit for notes
[22:27] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip: i problem was installing flash on opera
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> The_Rebel: skin it then
[22:27] <thiebaude> my
[22:27] <KevDog> ian[2]: Yes I think today aptitude and apt-get are virtually the same and interchangeable.  I think aptitude handles dependencies better (or at least it used to).  I prefer aptitude but perhaps I'm biased from the old days
[22:28] <deany> if some other browser had the addons i use in FF i might consider them...
[22:28] <nightrid3r> jara04: which cd did you download, the alternate uses a text interface to install
[22:28] <sambagirl> do i need openfiler with this webmail project?
[22:28] <prahal> MasterMoose, any success ?
[22:28] <thiebaude> deany: flock?
[22:28] <deany> nothing can replace my FF + plugins...
[22:28] <ian[2]> KevDog: Thanks again for the info.. Everything is installed and working now.. If you're ever in Oklahoma City, I owe you a beer! thanks again
[22:28] <KevDog> ian[2]: Sometimes however when aptitude isn't working or giving me strange messages, I defer to apt-get and the install works!
[22:28] <chuckc> ivancho: thanks but when i try and create a new raid, i get this mdadm: /dev/sdb1 appears to be part of a raid array
[22:28] <jara04> nightrid3r, i downloaded the ubuntu desktop edition 32 bits
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: sudo cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/opera/plugins
[22:29] <thiebaude> thanks
[22:29] <_VIM_> That's the only things lacking in Opera,,,, stuff like the  Delcious extension
[22:29] <jara04> nightrid3r, what can i do to make the installation through commands?
[22:29] <thiebaude> i'll go and install opera now
[22:29] <nightrid3r> jara04: try adding vga=vesa when booting (use F6 key) see if that helps
[22:29] <jara04> ok
[22:29] <deany> im antisocial so i dont do "social networking" lol
[22:30] <skate2> how do you print an EOF character in vim?
[22:30] <The_Rebel> lol opera just crashed while i tried watching a video on gametrailers
[22:30] <skate2> is there a command that shows all the privileges a user has on the whole system?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: could always use firepup too
[22:30] <The_Rebel> great browser indeed
[22:30] <skate2> ignore my first question please
[22:30] <prahal> nobody uses hibernation under ubuntu :-/ what do you use to setup the swap/suspend partition ?
[22:30] <The_Rebel> im sure it has a mplayer plugin too
[22:30] <The_Rebel> *sarcasm*
[22:30] <thiebaude> what is firepup?
[22:31] <sinmok> uh hi
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: its a very small / fast custom version of firefox
[22:31] <sinmok> I was wondering if any of you could help me?
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: theres a million different web browsers, just seems recently everyone if firefox branwashed
[22:31] <prahal> skate2, groups <user> or do you want to see all the access to each file he has ? find / -user <uid>
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> !ask | sinmok
[22:31] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip: are you able to install flash on it?
[22:31] <thiebaude> your right
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: sure
[22:32] <prahal> skate2, or more precisely "for g in $(groups <user>);do find / -group g;done will be slow but complete
[22:32] <_VIM_> !away > gsteinert_away
[22:33] <skate2> thanks Prahal
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> prahal: nice
[22:33] <sinmok> okay. Basically, ive been a vista user and ive managed to get ubuntu working exactly how i like it. The only thing i have left to get working is my subwoofer, at the moment i have no bass at all. I'm using a Qosmio F50 laptop. Can anyone help?
[22:34] <nightrid3r> sinmok: a little more info about the soundcard will help us answer your question
[22:34] <sinmok> What do you need?
[22:34] <ethana21> so I do a  dpkg --get-selections
[22:34] <nightrid3r> sinmok: what type of ard do you have
[22:34] <rozwell> so i get "undefined reference to `dlopen`" errors trying to build some stuff. i'm wondering what package i would need to fix this
[22:34] <ethana21> ...then I have the list..  then what do I do to install it all?
[22:34] <prahal> skate2, oups for g in $(groups <user>);do find / -group $g;done (mind the missing $ beforehand)
[22:35] <jochenh> Hey! Can anyone help me with this problem: http://pastebin.com/m6d855b26 ?
[22:35] <sinmok> Model: HDA Intel Sound Card
[22:35] <Dr_willis> !clone
[22:35] <sinmok> According to the device manager
[22:35] <SwitchMon44> sinmok open a command prompt and type "alsamixer"
[22:35] <skate2> prahal but how do i know what privileges a group has
[22:35] <ethana21> Dr_willis: thanks
[22:35] <nightrid3r> sinmok: i have no experience with that card but maybe someone else can help you
[22:35] <Dr_willis> ethana21,  i tend to break it into smaller steps.. :) but thats the gist of it all. :)
[22:36] <sinmok> alsa is open, what now
[22:36] <ethana21> wait, all those special chars
[22:36] <ethana21> now I'm confused
[22:36] <SwitchMon44> sinmok press tab until the "View:Playback" is highlighted.  How many channels do you have?
[22:37] <ethana21> ah, ok..
[22:37] <sinmok> By channel, do you mean the bar that appears?
[22:37] <SwitchMon44> sinmok yes
[22:37] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: ?
[22:38] <sinmok> SwitchMon44: sorry im a little confused, there seems to be more than one "view playback"
[22:38] <sinmok> oh, wait no, there's one bar
[22:38] <|Edgar|> Is anybody out there?
[22:38] <SwitchMon44> sinmok: only one?
[22:38] <jochenh> Can anyone help me with this X Server Problem http://pastebin.com/m6d855b26 ?
[22:39] <Xenos> Heh. mIRC under wine beats Xchat :-P
[22:39] <sinmok> yes. it says Card/Chip pulseaudio too
[22:39] <carpii> Xenos, maybe, but it looks fugly :/
[22:39] <giovani> Xenos: hahahaha
[22:39] <giovani> you mean beats xchat at having the most number of remote execution vulnerabilities?
[22:39] <skate2> xenos do you use winetricks
[22:39] <|Edgar|> I have ubuntu 8.10. When I installed I don't believe I was asked for a root password. Is there a default root password?
[22:39] <moonwatcher> BlueEagle: just wanted to say thanks for last night, i managed to fix most of my problems, which where obviously more complicated then i imagined...
[22:40] <zash> |Edgar|: ubuntu does not use a root password
[22:40] <giovani> |Edgar|: by default, you cannot log into the root account directly -- using sudo with your own user's password is recommended
[22:40] <nightrid3r> !root | |Edgar|
[22:40] <|Edgar|> Can I do su at a prompt?
[22:40] <zash> |Edgar|: use sudo -s
[22:40] <SwitchMon44> sinmok: do your satellite speakers work?
[22:41] <|Edgar|> Thanks I will try that.
[22:41] <sinmok> Yeah, they do.
[22:41] <zash> |Edgar|: sudo -s gives you a root shell
[22:41] <SwitchMon44> sinmok: is it a 5.1 surround system?
[22:41] <skate2> isnt a root shell just as dangerous as logging in as root?
[22:41] <sinmok> Erm, I wouldnt know. How can I find out?
[22:41] <nightrid3r> skate2: anything root is dangerous
[22:41] <Xenos> skate2: Winetricks? No
[22:42] <lucax> how can i save files of openoffice in .xml?
[22:42] <makito249> Can fetchmail store email passwords in gnome-keyring?
[22:42] <edoceo> Which package contains: libfontconfig.so.1?
[22:42] <zash> skate2: about as dangerous as prefixing everything with sudo
[22:42] <rockyrock> I have a dual boot, XP and Ubuntu. I have some drives in XP in ntfs and i want to convert them into ext3 to be used in Ubuntu and to let ubuntu mount them automatically after booting. How to do that?
[22:42] <giovani> skate2: "dangerous" is relative -- giving out the root password, rather than controlling who can use sudo and what they can execute with it is clearly more secure
[22:43] <SwitchMon44> sinmok: how many satellite speakers do you have?
[22:43] <NETabuse> Hi guys. simple problem with dvd playback here, i'm on intrepid 64bit. i added medibuntu repo, try install libdvdcss2, still no joy..
[22:43] <sinmok> 2
[22:43] <NETabuse> using vlc and totem have both failed to playback the dvd
[22:43] <sinmok> There's sound coming out of both of them.
[22:43] <SwitchMon44> sinmok: but nothing out of your sub?
[22:44] <sinmok> correct
[22:44] <skate2> isnt it sudo -i, not sudo -s?
[22:44] <SwitchMon44> sinmok: what is your sub plugged into?
[22:44] <marcella> ciao
[22:44] <kebomix_> hello , any active channel for asp.net ?
[22:44] <sinmok> it's a built in subwoofer in my laptop
[22:44] <lucax> some one know how to save files as .xml with openoffice?
[22:44] <Clunk> NETabuse try to install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:44] <SwitchMon44> sinmok: what laptop model?
[22:45] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip: i installed and ran opera and flash is already available
[22:45] <sinmok> Toshiba Qosmio F50
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> edoceo: try apt-file
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: there yuo go then ;)
[22:45] <thiebaude> cool man
[22:45] <NETabuse> Cunk will try that.
[22:45] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip: you still use fluxbox?
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: yeah i switch between that and compiz which i find hilarious
[22:46] <NETabuse> have my box set of 24 season 6 that i want to finish ... grrrr
[22:46] <slusken> Anyone found a solution to the powermizer problem? (powermizer performance level wont go above 1)
[22:46] <ian[1]> How can I automatically start a process at boot time in 8.10 server?
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> !bum | iam[
[22:46] <thiebaude> i wish i had a 3d card for compiz
[22:46] <Jewbacca> hi, how to get to mouse registry?
[22:47] <quibbler> lucax: save as and choose xml
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: im only using an onboard GeForce 6250
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: how do you mean?
[22:47] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip:  hi, on windows i could get to registery area where i can edit still like mouse settings by entering numbers
[22:47] <lucax> quibbler: i get an error... cant do it... any ideas?
[22:47] <thiebaude> i have a 3 yr old computer that doesn't do 3d rendering
[22:47] <bioshake> Hey guys - my swap is at 0.0% is that normal?  Shouldn't it be using something?
[22:47] <wil_> Hi, I used vmware to mount a 1GB usb flash drive and using freenas, I made it the boot drive... it works fine, but I want to turn it back to a 1GB flash drive! how do I do it! I cant see the drive in windows and ubuntu only sees it as a 30 meg drive :(
[22:47] <thiebaude> intel i815
[22:47] <thiebaude> on board
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> !mouse | Jewbacca
[22:48] <cjae> !bug
[22:48] <giovani> bioshake: no ... using swap is NOT desirable, it's for emergencies only
[22:48] <rockyrock> guys i have problem with torrents in ubuntu. Yesterday i was download some files using Transmission BitTorrent Client, but when i rebooted i didn't find the files in Transmission BitTorrent Client!
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> bioshake: thats fine, if you arent filling your ram it will not be used
[22:49] <thiebaude> yup, swap is for when you run out of memory
[22:49] <rockyrock> But the files was on the drive
[22:49] <rockyrock> *were
[22:49] <bioshake> OK thanks - isn't swap used for hibnernation as well
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> giovani: its not for emergencies, its for when ram is exhausted
[22:49] <prahal_> skate2, did you get my reply ? connection issues for a minute
[22:49] <giovani> ActionParsnip: that's an emergency on any system
[22:49] <deany> bioshake, windows would.. sorry, your ubuntu wont use it unless it needs it.. sorry
[22:49] <thiebaude> haha
[22:49] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: its not what i needed
[22:49] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: like on xp where i can regedit numbers
[22:49] <rockyrock> the torrent reached only 70% but when i opened the client again i didn't find the file in the client to continue the download
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: linux doesnt have a registry..what are you trying to achieve
[22:50] <luciel> Hello everyone, just wondering if there is any documentation on using Ubuntu 8.10 with a KVM switch?
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> !kvm
[22:50] <G-Blunted> whats a KVM switch?
[22:50] <Jewbacca> i know i was there before i just couldnt remember how ActionParsnip
[22:50] <rockyrock> I told the torrent client to download the files on an ntfs drive. Is this the problem???
[22:50] <giovani> sigh
[22:50] <bioshake>  Ubuntu only uses swap if you are out of RAM?  and doesn't use it for suspending / hibernation?
[22:50] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: it wasnt regedit but it was like the same windows as xp
[22:50] <giovani> KVM != "KVM Switch"
[22:50] <thiebaude> !kvm
[22:50] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: i could put numbers to change lets say acceleration
[22:50] <giovani> luciel: there's nothing to know or configure
[22:50] <MoTec> a kvm switch allows you to use one keyboard, video/monitor, and mouse to control multiple pcs
[22:51] <skate2> prahal no
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: thats in mouse settings, you change mouse accelleration there
[22:51] <giovani> luciel: there's no drivers involved, so nothing relating to the OS
[22:51] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: yes but i also had a place where i could enter a number
[22:51] <SwitchMon44> sinmok: so your laptop has a built in subwoofer?
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> Jewbacca: you arent using windows now so the regedit stuff you know doesnt apply
[22:51] <G-Blunted> lol
[22:51] <prahal_> bioshake, it should use it for hibernation (one could use a file but the default is the swap ... though I cannot tell you why if it does not as that s why I came here to ask
[22:52] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: someone gave me that option on ubuntu forum and i forgot it
[22:52] <yoyit2> does anyone here know how to use firestarter
[22:52] <luciel> giovani, I've been trying to diagnose the problem. I have two machines, one of which is dual-booting into Ubuntu 8.10. If I use the monitor and keyboard/mouse plugged directly in, there's no problem. If I use the KVM Switch my monitor remains blank.
[22:52] <Jewbacca> ActionParsnip: so i do have it
[22:52] <Clunk> can anybody say the name to the lateral bar??
[22:52] <prahal_> On debian it does for a long time at least but ubuntu have an old uswsusp
[22:52] <giovani> luciel: sounds like the kvm switch is broken -- ubuntu has nothing to do with it
[22:52] <giovani> or something with your video card, and kvm switch combination
[22:52] <luciel> giovani, Well, I considered this, yet the machine is also running Windows - and the KVM works fine then.
[22:52] <prahal_> Jewbacca, driconf
[22:53] <giovani> there's no OS involvement
[22:53] <lstarnes> Clunk: what lateral bar?
[22:53] <lucax> yoyit2: configure it but for it to run u have to comment some lines in /etc/firestarter/firestarter.sh i believe its from it says if mask until if
[22:53] <slusken> anyone know of a guide on how to install Nvidia graphics drivers for linux newbies ubuntu 8.10. tried installing but ended up having to reformat pc :P thanks alot!
[22:53] <sinmok> Switchmon: Yes it does - sorry for the late reply
[22:53] <quibbler> lucax: no idea i've never done it myself ....just did it and it works fine  ....still don't know why it doesn't for you
[22:53] <Jewbacca> prahal whats that? D:
[22:53] <Clunk> lstarnes: like the lateral bar on vista
[22:53] <Jewbacca> prahal_: whats that
[22:54] <prahal_> Jewbacca, the gui to setup everything related to acceleration
[22:54] <Jewbacca> how to get there
[22:54] <yoyit2> lucax: what im tying to hook my laptop to my xbox so i can play online
[22:54] <lstarnes> Clunk: I don't use vista.  Do you mean the bars at the top and bottom of the screen?
[22:54] <thiebaude> panels
[22:54] <n8tuser> yoyit2 -> you're back to troll again? if you dislike ubuntu why do you keep coming back?
[22:54] <Pyles17> does anyone know why an intel 3945 wireless card would show up "UNCLAIMED"? ubuntu comes with the driver, but it doesn't work
[22:55] <prahal_> Jewbacca, sudo apt-get install driconf
[22:55] <Clunk> lstarnes: no, lateral bar to show disk usage for example
[22:55] <Jewbacca> no no i wasnt suppose to download anything
[22:55] <Jewbacca> prahal_: can i pm you?
[22:55] <lstarnes> Clunk: could you please give me another example?
[22:55] <refdef> Hey uys im in a bit of trouble. I changed monitors and now when i boot up windows orr ubuntu 8.10 my monitor goes black and says i have to turn down my oses resolution because this new monitor is smaller n crappier. Is there a way to hange he res without booting into ubuntu or a way too boot with the minimum res? Thanks
[22:55] <yoyit2> n8tuser: why are you makeing a argument im not troling and i dont hate ubuntu im just asking how to use firestarter do you know how
[22:55] <prahal_> Jewbacca, sure
[22:55] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: unclaimed means no driver is loaded for that card
[22:55] <luciel> Thanks giovani I'll see what I can do
[22:55] <Clunk> lstarnes: can listen radio too
[22:56] <Thrae> My router currently has two interfaces setup: eth0 (Internet) and eth1 (<IP_ADDRESS>). I want to setup a new static interface to make a different ruleset on a different physical interface, eth2 (<IP_ADDRESS>). By editing /etc/network/interfaces I was able to bring it up fine, however it's not resolving DNS queries sent to <IP_ADDRESS>, despite netstat showing it listening on port 53.
[22:56] <giovani> luciel: good luck
[22:56] <prahal_> Pyles17, probably a  card with an id not in the driver
[22:56] <Pyles17> ActionParsnip: right, i don't know how to fix it.
[22:56] <n8tuser> yoyit2 -> you were here earlier complaining about ubuntu why not stay vista where you'd be happier
[22:56] <sinmok> Switchmon: in case you didnt get it, yes my subwoofer is built in
[22:56] <hajmola> how do I split a 8gb .mkv into two 4gb files?
[22:56] <foolagain> #python
[22:56] <lstarnes> Clunk: could you please provide a screenshot of some sort?
[22:56] <Pyles17> prahal_: that would make sense, but it works sometimes
[22:56] <yoyit2> n8tuser: can you help me or not
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: try: sudo modprobe iwl3945
[22:56] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms: I apologize...thank you for all youre help..I forgot to say thank you. Ive been reding trying to figure out why it wont record
[22:56] <cjae> um sudo apt-get purge googleearth did not work still loads and have a menu entry
[22:57] <sambagirl> is scalix free?
[22:57] <Clunk> lstarnes: i only need the name. i don't remember it
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> !info scalix
[22:57] <lstarnes> Clunk: I'm still not sure exactly what you're talking about
[22:57] <cjae> also tried cjae@cjae-desktop:~$ sudo rm -rf /opt/google-earth && sudo rm /usr/share/mime/application/vnd.google-earth.* /usr/share/mimelnk/application/vnd.google-earth.* /usr/share/applnk/Google-googleearth.desktop /usr/share/mime/packages/googleearth-mimetypes.xml /usr/share/gnome/apps/Google-googleearth.desktop /usr/share/applications/Google-googleearth.desktop /usr/local/bin/googleearth
[22:57] <n8tuser> yoyit2 -> i will not, be careful on what you claim around here
[22:57] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, so whats up, did you get it installed
[22:57] <cjae> sorry for long paste
[22:58] <cjae> still loads
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> Pyles17: https://bugs.launchpad.net/intellinuxwireless/+bug/177624
[22:58] <n8tuser> Thrae -> you are using ubuntu as your router?
[22:58] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms: Yep its installed now trying to get it to work right
[22:58] <refdef> Any help? How can i boot ubuntu woth a custom screen res?
[22:58] <Clunk> forget it
[22:58] <yoyit2> i need some help with firestarter i am trying to hook my laptop to my 360 so i can play online
[22:59] <Thrae> n8tuser: Well, technically Debian.
[22:59] <lstarnes> Clunk: I don't think it has any specific name
[22:59] <Thrae> n8tuser: But my server runs Ubuntu.
[22:59] <n8tuser> Thrae -> it doesnt really matter, what is the issue?
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> refdef: make sure the leftmost resolution in xorg.conf is the res you want to boot in
[22:59] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, cool, I have never used it myself, but installing applications is pretty much the same, if you can't fins it in the repos and you have to compile it yourself for some reason just keep in mind that problems can occur
[22:59] <Thrae> n8tuser: My router currently has two interfaces setup: eth0 (Internet) and eth1 (<IP_ADDRESS>). I want to setup a new static interface to make a different ruleset on a different physical interface, eth2 (<IP_ADDRESS>). By editing /etc/network/interfaces I was able to bring it up fine, however it's not resolving DNS queries sent to <IP_ADDRESS>, despite netstat showing it listening on port 53.
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> refdef: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1541970
[23:00] <refdef> ActionParsnip: Where is that config file? Can i boot with a live cd and edit that file?
[23:00] <Thrae> n8tuser: IE, clients connected to <IP_ADDRESS>/24 subnet cannot resolve DNS.
[23:00] <exodus_ms> ugliefrog, what are wanting to record
[23:00] <n8tuser> Thrae -> only two? two subnets only? is it used to get to the internet? you need a 3rd nic
[23:00] <Clunk> lstarnes: i installed once... let me check...
[23:00] <wil_> how do I change partitions?
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> refdef: sure you can edit it in livecd, just mount the / partition and edit the file
[23:01] <prince_jammys> refdef: it's in /etc/X11
[23:01] <Thrae> n8tuser: Like I said, I have more then two interfaces. I have four physical interfaces, and I'm not using the fourth right now.
[23:01] <ivancho> n8tuser: try to do: /etc/init.d/bind restart (or your dns server) and try again
[23:01] <n8tuser> Thrae -> better yet, describe your network layout,
[23:01] <Stefano> hi everyone, I would practice with crontab. Cron is running and I've added a line in /etc/crontab: * * * * * myUser /usr/bin/firefox bt it nevers starts. I'm using 8.10 intrepid
[23:01] <hajmola> how do I split a 8gb .mkv into two 4gb files?
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> wil_: how do you mean?
[23:01] <ivancho> Thrae: try to do: /etc/init.d/bind restart (or your dns server) and try again
[23:01] <thiebaude> yoyit2:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=102645
[23:01] <ugliefrog> exodus_ms: game screen window...it wont record to a mpeg just a default window dump of individual pics
[23:01] <Flannel> Stefano: When do you want it to start?
[23:01] <yoyit2> the
[23:02] <racecar56> ok im going to download ubuntu for a virtual machine to download torrents on, but what is the best version to use?
[23:02] <ivancho> hajmola: try mplayer additional program mencoder
[23:02] <yoyit2> thiebaude: thank you :)
[23:02] <n8tuser> Thrae -> can you post your  dhcp server config?
[23:02] <Clunk> lstarnes: his name is screenlets
[23:02] <sinmok> Basically, ive been a vista user and ive managed to get ubuntu working exactly how i like it. The only thing i have left to get working is my subwoofer, at the moment i have no bass at all. I'm using a Qosmio F50 laptop. Can anyone help?
[23:02] <Thrae> n8tuser: eth0 (Internet), eth1 (<IP_ADDRESS>/24 w/ DHCP), eth2 (<IP_ADDRESS>/24, no DHCP)
[23:02] <thiebaude> yw
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: they will all be equally good, for that use there is nothing ni it
[23:02] <Stefano> Flannel, I wold start firefox every minute, as first example
[23:02] <racecar56> ok
[23:02] <thiebaude> yoyit2
[23:02] <MoTec> Stefano: shouldn't you use crontab -e instead of directly editing /etc/crontab?
[23:02] <tuga3d> hi all
[23:02] <racecar56> maybe i'll do 8.04.2
[23:02] <Thrae> n8tuser: I am connected to a switch connected to eth2, which does not use DHCP.
[23:02] <Flannel> Stefano: Alright, lets do two things.  First, don't use /etc/crontab, use crontab -e to edit your users contab.
[23:02] <adante> jesus
[23:03] <adante> can someone explain how pureftpd in ubuntu is setup
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: there is no BEST app for any purpose really, its all personal taste
[23:03] <racecar56> after all, i'd like to see hardy heron after so long...d
[23:03] <thiebaude> racecar56: that's what i use, free updates for 3 yrs
[23:03] <Flannel> Stefano: *why* do you want to start firefox every minute?
[23:03] <racecar56> k
[23:03] <prince_jammys> firefox is an X client, anyway
[23:03] <racecar56> i use 8.10 usually
[23:03] <n8tuser> Thrae -> your router is acting as dhcp server? it serves on both eth1 and eth2 ?  if you have  a drawing its easier to discuss.
[23:03] <thiebaude> 8.10 is pretty good too
[23:03] <wil_> ActionParsnip, I have a usb drive that was partioned by bsd to ufs... I dont need it anymore and just want to reset it to a 1GB drive... but apart from that, I am getting in to ubuntu and just dont have a clue about partitioning other than when I first installed it
[23:03] <Droopsta915> No help today. Just here to say 8.04 LTS, much better than Ibex 8.10.  (UBUNTU for LIFE!!) good night Linux Heads
[23:03] <Stefano> Flannel, it's just an example. No special reason. It's example 0
[23:03] <MoTec> Stefano: Good infor on crontab and ubuntu:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=102626
[23:03] <wil_> ActionParsnip, is there any sort of good partitioning software like in windows disk manager?
[23:03] <racecar56> i don't really neet the newest stuff/features for just a basic torrent downloader cause thats all i want it to doi
[23:04] <racecar56> *do
[23:04] <prahal_> Pyles17, are you sure there is no blacklist for your card and the driver ?
[23:04] <balor> Why does libglib2.0-0 link against libpcre?  Other distros like Debian and Fedora don't link against it.
[23:04] <racecar56> all i'll update is transmission and ill get moblock
[23:04] <_VIM_> i agree Droopsta915...8.04 is where it's at.
[23:04] <Thrae> n8tuser: It only serves on eth1, not eth2.
[23:04] <quentusrex> why is KVM the default supported virtualization software?
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> wil_: gparted or fdisk
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> adante: http://linux.justinhartman.com/PureFTPd_Installation_and_Setup
[23:04] <prahal_> Pyles17, otherwise I would bet on a failure to load firmware but that would show up in dmesg output
[23:05] <n8tuser> Thrae -> is that what you wanted? to serve only on eth1?  how is eth2 is supposed to gets its own ip address?
[23:05] <pressman57> Is anyone else experiencing problems with Gnome? The panel flew up to the top and was partially unresponsive (wouldn't display menus- would open apps but text entry wouldn't work) I tried the failsafe xorg.conf file with the same result, and after several reboots has decided to work once more. What the heck?
[23:05] <Thrae> n8tuser: The one computer connected to eth2 is set as static with IP: <IP_ADDRESS>, Gateway: <IP_ADDRESS>, DNS: <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:05] <Stefano> MoTec, thanks for the link
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> balor: debian and fedora are different distros so will act differently
[23:05] <prahal_> pressman57, a11y issue I bet
[23:06] <wil_> ActionParsnip, I cant find gparted, but i am just instaling gnome partition manager (probably the same thing) and qtparted and will take a look... thanks
[23:06] <pressman57> prahal_, ally?
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> wil_: yeah you'll find its the same bag
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> wil_: gksudo gparted
[23:06] <Thrae> n8tuser: I use Static IPs instead of a DHCP Server for eth2.
[23:06] <n8tuser> Thrae -> wait a minute one computer connected to eth2 or you said you have a switch?  you see, a picture is worth a thousand word
[23:06] <racecar56> gparted 0.4 pwns 0.3
[23:06] <Thrae> n8tuser: eth2 -> switch -> client
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: i just use fdisk, easier
[23:06] <racecar56> k
[23:06] <Flannel> Stefano: Makesure you have a newline (empty) after your crontab entry
[23:06] <balor> ActionParsnip: I'm wondering, though, what the specific Ubuntu reason is for linking against it.  As I think it's causing an issue on my system.
[23:07] <prahal_> pressman57, accessibility . Have you checked you haave not mistakenly enabled orca or such ?
[23:07] <prince_jammys> Stefano: you'll need to set the DISPLAY environment variable if you want to start applications with cron
[23:07] <Pyles17> prahal_: how would I check those things?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> balor: log a bug
[23:07] <prince_jammys> Stefano: X applications, i mean
[23:07] <n8tuser> Thrae -> nothing wrong with having the client to get a static ip,  have you configured eth2 to be static too?
[23:08] <Thrae> n8tuser: Yes, eth2 <IP_ADDRESS>. The client is <IP_ADDRESS>.
[23:08] <racecar56> is there such thing as a ipv4 to ipv6 translator?
[23:08] <n8tuser> Thrae -> and the client is told of a good nameserver to use?  route table is okay?
[23:08] <pressman57> prahal_, I'm sorry to be so dense but what is orca and where do I find it?
[23:08] <racecar56> orca is in your apps
[23:09] <racecar56> universal access i think
[23:09] <balor> racecar56: All IPV4 numbers are IPV6 numbers.  They're just the last few enties
[23:09] <racecar56> k
[23:09] <n8tuser> pressman57 -> i believe those are for visually impaired users
[23:09] <Thrae> n8tuser: Since bind is running on all interfaces, including eth2, I give the client <IP_ADDRESS> as its DNS. However, that's not working for that subnet. It works with eth1 (which is <IP_ADDRESS>).
[23:10] <sinmok> Hi, can someone help me with sound?
[23:10] <prince_jammys> sinmok: just describe your problem in detail and someone might help
[23:10] <unop> racecar56, yes, but there are a couple of ways of representing IPv4 Addresses in IPv6 - here is one http://www.subnetonline.com/pages/subnet-calculators/ipv4-to-ipv6-converter.php
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> !sound | sinmok
[23:11] <n8tuser> Thrae -> you can test from your client if eth2 is really serving dns  test it on port 53
[23:11] <n8tuser> Thrae -> if not, check your bind   if it does really serve on that eth2
[23:11] <Thrae> n8tuser: netstat -nlp shows it is on the router, and I can do dig @<IP_ADDRESS> www.google.com
[23:11] <Pyles17> prahal_: how would i check that there is no blacklist for the card and the firmware is loading?
[23:11] <pressman57> n8tuser, perhaps, but I really doubt it. One thing might be important....I just had a power-supply fail. I did run a fsck on the disk from another disk and it checked out.
[23:11] <sinmok> Yes, alsa is selected. My speakers work fine. The problem is my subwoofer, nothing appears to be coming out of it. The subwoofer and speakers are built into my laptop. My laptop is the Toshiba Qosmio F50.
[23:12] <badfish69> how can i create an asx playlist?
[23:12] <n8tuser> pressman57 -> what is the issue? i have not followed your convo yet
[23:12] <racecar56> does oss sound work on ubuntu with virtualbox
[23:12] <slipst> I have several pdf files with filenames that are just numbers. I'd like to mass rename so they get their filename from the original filename PLUS the title that shows up when you open it in evince. any ideas?
[23:12] <n8tuser> Thrae -> you do your dig from the router or from the client?
[23:13] <Thrae> n8tuser: Client is Windows, and nslookup doesn't work
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> badfish69: http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/howto/articles/ad.aspx
[23:13] <prahal_> Pyles17, grep <driver_name> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist*
[23:13] <Forgotten> Hi all!
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> badfish69: looks like some form of html to me, with <entry> </entry>
[23:13] <_16aR_> Hello
[23:14] <n8tuser> Thrae -> get another client or check the tcpip settings of your windows
[23:14] <prahal_> Pyles17, and grep <driver name> /var/log/kernel.log for firmware issues
[23:14] <_16aR_> I've forgotten it, but do you know the tool to scan the port on a machine ?
[23:14] <lstarnes> _16aR_: nmap
[23:14] <_16aR_> yeahhh
[23:14] <Thrae> n8tuser: I also had the same problem on another Windows computer.
[23:14] <_16aR_> thank you !!
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> badfish69: http://www.jeroenwijering.com/upload/asx.xml
[23:14] <unop> slipst, does every file have a different title?
[23:14] <Stefano> thank u so much. Why I should use crontab -e instead of vim directly?
[23:14] <adante> ActionParsnip: thanks but the way it is configured in ubuntu seems to be some rather wierd wrapper script which parses a directory containing the options and is basically completely abstracted from all of that
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> badfish69: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=875760
[23:14] <n8tuser> Thrae -> you can ping okay from those clients to <IP_ADDRESS>  ?
[23:14] <racecar56> goodbye and hoping everyone who gots problems will get them solved, i gotta go
[23:15] <racecar56> bye
[23:15] <welly> hey all, just finished installing ubuntu 8.10 server on my vps. I remember seeing a post-installation document somewhere. how to lock down the server a little. i don't supposed anyone knows of one?
[23:15] <Thrae> n8tuser: Yes, as well as to any IP on the internet
[23:15] <slipst> unop, yes. I also have a list of the names but I don't know if it's in the same order.
[23:15] <unop> Stefano, crontab -e just opens up the file in your editor -- and that could be vim
[23:15] <fogobogo> welly: http://suigintou.desudesudesu.org/4scrape/img/190519.jpg
[23:15] <n8tuser> Thrae id check you windows tcpip properties
[23:15] <quentusrex> I have a radeon 7000 how do I enable dual screen monitors? so that they don't mirror each other?
[23:15] <prahal_> pressman57, orca is for visually impaired people . You could do ps ax |grep orca to see if it is enabled
[23:16] <welly> cheers fogobogo! :-/
[23:16] <MoTec> Stefano: EDITOR=nano && crontab -e
[23:16] <Stefano> unop, I've tried with the line: * * * * * stefano /usr/bin/firefox but it doesn't start :-(
[23:16] <MoTec> or whatever editor you want to use.
[23:16] <unop> slipst, well, from what you're saying now - you just want to add the title to the filename
[23:16] <n8tuser> Thrae -> you're not running any kind of firewalling in your router are you?
[23:16] <slipst> unop, I was going to use pyrenamer but when I loaded filenames from text file it removes  the original filename completely. so the easiest solution I can come up with is to manually check so that every original filename (numbers) matches the title of the document. kind of a PITA with several thousand documents.
[23:16] <slipst> unop, yeah
[23:16] <Thrae> n8tuser: It's also happening on my DD-WRT router too. Like I said, the TCP/IP settings are IP: <IP_ADDRESS>, Mask: <IP_ADDRESS>, Gateway: <IP_ADDRESS>, DNS: <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:17] <unop> Stefano, right, that's because like prince_jammys said sometime ago -- you need to set the DISPLAY variable for GUI apps to work from cron
[23:17] <Thrae> n8tuser: Yes I am, but it's not rejecting the packets
[23:17] <n8tuser> Thrae -> where is this DD-WRT coming into the picture?  do you have another linux box you can use as a client?
[23:17] <unop> slipst, have a look at extract .. it can look for metadata in files and may pull up something if your files have the titles in the tags
[23:17] <fogobogo> welly: my pleasure.
[23:18] <slipst> unop, thanks for the tip
[23:18] <n8tuser> Thrae -> i suspect its your firewalling,  combed through it and/or use logs of packets getting rejected on eth2
[23:18] <welly> fogobogo: I'm not sure what your point is though
[23:18] <unop> !info extract
[23:18] <racecar56> is it possible to clear icon browser dropdowns, like in alacarte to choose an icon for the menu entry
[23:18] <prahal_> pressman57, this was just an issue that would have been able to explain most of what you describe (if buggy on your version of the distrib)
[23:18] <gorgapor> I am having a very serious and wierd problem: the file /etc/resolv.conf cannot be accessed or removed, giving the error message "Stale NFS file handle". Because of this, I have no DNS capability. How do I fix this? Why would /etc/resolv.conf even be on a networked file system?
[23:18] <MeVsTheVoices> Anyone know what the local format of Quicktime is, need to transcode for
[23:19] <fogobogo> gorgapor: http://suigintou.desudesudesu.org/4scrape/img/190519.jpg
[23:19] <n8tuser> gorgapor -> without resolv.conf you can not resolve names to ip address
[23:19] <gorgapor> n8tuser, yes, i am aware that i can't resolve names, and it's very annoying :)
[23:20] <racecar56> is it possible to clear icon browser dropdowns, like in alacarte to choose an icon for the menu entry
[23:20] <gorgapor> fogobogo, you are not helping
[23:20] <n8tuser> gorgapor -> cant you relate?  network file system  -- to resolve those network addresses you require resolv.conf
[23:20] <BBishop> hey ubuntu people :)
[23:21] <BBishop> so far .. so nice .. only one problem in firefox .. anyone here uses html validator addon for firefox ? :|
[23:21] <Brucee> is there any remote program for ubuntu such as tight vnc, vnc, radmin, or teamviewer?
[23:21] <adante> anybody use pureftpd in ubuntu?
[23:21] <n8tuser> gordonjcp -> have an entry in your /etc/hosts file is you wish, am assuming not many nfs servers you need to resolved
[23:21] <Thrae> n8tuser: Yeah, no packets getting rejected
[23:21] <prahal_> gorgapor, sudo lsof -i may help find out if someone has mounted your / as nfs share
[23:21] <MoTec> Brucee: Yep, vnc works
[23:21] <pressman57> n8tuser, Really strange behavior in gnome. The panel has twice jumped to the top of the screen and become unresponsive. After a reboot it remained unresponsive. I've used the failsafe xorg.conf to no avail and then on a subsequent
[23:21] <adante> or can recommend an ftp with non retarded setup
[23:21] <MoTec> Brucee: I use x11vnc - probably outdated by now, heh
[23:21] <prince_jammys> BBishop: try firebug
[23:22] <Thrae> n8tuser: Yeah, no packets getting rejected, which is the weird part.
[23:22] <Brucee> MoTec i want it to run on cross platforms
[23:22] <timmyzecat> hi
[23:22] <prahal_> gorgapor, or exportfs to see if your system does not export it by mistake
[23:22] <piegod> Hi, has anyone noticed that the ngircd package in Ubuntu's repository is out of date?
[23:22] <Brucee> xp, with ubuntu
[23:22] <MoTec> you can use any vnc viewer to connect to x11vnc
[23:22] <tomvolek_> Hi, I am running 8.1,  i have updated my system from now and then and now i see three kernel versions on the grub bootup screen..  How can I remove the ones i dont want from both the fiule system ?  I know how to remove grub entries .
[23:22] <n8tuser> Thrae -> thats odd, is it getting in through your firewall, all the nslookup request from your client?
[23:22] <BBishop> prince_jammys, doesn't firebug bug google mail ?
[23:22] <gorgapor> prahal_, one second, i'll check that out
[23:22] <racecar56> is it possible to clear icon browser dropdowns, like in alacarte to choose an icon for the menu entry >by the way pm me if you know, i can't see irc messages as good if they are grouped with others so PM ME if you know how <
[23:22] <n8tuser> pressman57 -> i got sidetracked, what was the issue we're trying to resolved?
[23:22] <prince_jammys> BBishop: beats me
[23:23] <prahal_> tomvolek_, remove the kernels via synaptic/aptitude
[23:23] <prahal_> grub will find them and add them back in the list
[23:23] <prahal_> otherwise
[23:23] <tomvolek_> prahal, i am on synaptic now, what would i look for ?
[23:23] <racecar56> by the way i do ubuntu 8.10 and only ubuntu 8.10... :>
[23:23] <Brucee> ok, thanks MoTec
[23:23] <prince_jammys> BBishop: it's installable through apt
[23:23] <prahal_> tomvolek_, linux-image-*
[23:23] <racecar56> it's good to have a OS that's pwnage
[23:23] <racecar56> :>
[23:23] <BBishop> prince_jammys, well .. does it have the standard validation abilities ?
[23:23] <pressman57> buggy behavior on gnome system-wide (I tried logging in as another user).
[23:23] <BBishop> of the pages I visit ..
[23:24] <racecar56> ubuntu is my favorite OS
[23:24] <G-Bleezy> tomvolek_: /boot/grub/menu.lst and delete the vmlinuz file from wherever you've got the binaries stashed...usually /boot
[23:24] <prince_jammys> BBishop: yes. check it out. you can turn it on and off, too. sudo apt-get install firebug
[23:24] <thiebaude> ubuntu is my only OS
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: i love gentoo
[23:24] <tomvolek_> prahal_  just unmark the one i dont want ?   is that safe to do ?
[23:24] <racecar56> cool
[23:24] <gorgapor> prahal_, i don't even have exportfs installed, there is no nfs set up on my system
[23:24] <Ax-Ax> snopp
[23:24] <BBishop> I still don't get why ubuntu doesn't use the normal firefox trunk ...
[23:24] <prahal_> tomvolek_, yes . It will bark at you if you try to remove them all
[23:25] <racecar56> i tried gentoo once but it took too long to install so i gave up
[23:25] <piegod> will the ngircd package in the repos ever be updated? I think the repo has 0.10 something and 0.13 is out, and supports SSL/stuff
[23:25] <slide> Is there an ¨official¨ way to update Vuze to the V4?
[23:25] <racecar56> i like ubuntu the best and i like freebsd the second best because of its ports
[23:25] <lstarnes> piegod: you will most likely have to download the sources and compile it yoruself
[23:25] <lstarnes> *yourself
[23:25] <racecar56> although ubuntu is easier
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: you can achieve similar to emerge with apt-build but apt doesnt keep up with them, sucks
[23:25] <racecar56> k
[23:25] <piegod> lstarnes: I know,  I had to, I just wanted to know if they will ever update the repository
[23:25] <BBishop> prince_jammys, damn this is too complex .. I want html validator .. it was easy ..
[23:26] <Flannel> !info ngircd jaunty | piegod
[23:26] <piegod> hmm, 0.12 :/
[23:26] <piegod> wait!
[23:26] <piegod> jaunty
[23:26] <prince_jammys> BBishop: that integrates with firefox, or is stand-alone?
[23:26] <prahal_> gorgapor, ok so the only reason I see is not that your / is exported but that at least /etc was from another nfs export (from another box ... I ll look after how to get rid of stale files (don't know yet
[23:26] <racecar56> i like ubuntu better because freebsd isn't so 'working out the box' but its still fun to fool with, for me at least
[23:26] <Pyles17> prahal_: neither one of those gave any output, but i looked through /var/log/kern.log and found this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/115802/
[23:26] <piegod> I think my server is still 8.04 or maybe 8.10
[23:26] <Flannel> piegod: Jaunty is already frozen, but if you file a sync request, you can get a newer versio in 9.10
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> piegod: lsb_release -a | grep Code
[23:27] <Flannel> ActionParsnip: Or lsb_release -c ;)
[23:27] <racecar56> by the way i ordered an external CD-RW drive for my server so i can wipe the win and install the lin (kill windows, install Linux)
[23:27] <thiebaude> :)
[23:27] <BBishop> prince_jammys, integrates ... but it uses some tidy libs and stuff
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> Flannel: nice, thanks :D
[23:27] <racecar56> i don't even know how to use windows server
[23:27] <prince_jammys> BBishop: firebug is probably the most popular one for firefox. a command-line alternative is 'tidy'
[23:27] <BBishop> buzzing through the forums say it's ubuntu's fault for bubling up firefox with other stuff
[23:27] <racecar56> ive been using firefox scince 2005
[23:28] <piegod> Flannel: ah, 0.12 should be fine (methinks) - so that's all good to know (0.10 doesn't do SSL support :|) - will the package be configured with ssl support?
[23:28] <BBishop> well I don't want the command-line one .. nor do I want firebug .. too complex ..
[23:28] <racecar56> and im anti-ie
[23:28] <slide> Whenever I type a ¨ it makes me hit the key twice. If i hit ¨ and then another character it provides an different char, how cna I turn this off (IE ä ë ḧ ï ö ...)
[23:28] <thiebaude> i don't agree BBishop
[23:28] <racecar56> woot for OSS
[23:28] <BBishop> prince_jammys, you try using html validator and you'll see what I'm talking about.
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: i used firebird back in the day
[23:28] <racecar56> (open source software, not the sound system)
[23:28] <Flannel> piegod: I don't know.  You'll want to talk to the Universe people, in #ubuntu-motu
[23:28] <racecar56> cool
[23:28] <piegod> Flannel: I think by default ssl is off, has to be configured compile-time
[23:28] <piegod> ok
[23:28] <racecar56> my first comp was from 2003
[23:28] <racecar56> or 2002
[23:28] <Flannel> slide: You need to change your keyboard layout to something without deadkeys
[23:29] <racecar56> idk it might even be 2004
[23:29] <Renfield> Hello again.
[23:29] <MiniGui> oh
[23:29] <racecar56> hi
[23:29] <MiniGui> hello
[23:29] <Renfield> Can someone look at this syslog http://paste.ubuntu.com/115803/  From my continued attempts at installing Ubuntu and help me get it working?
[23:30] <Pyles17> prahal_: neither one of those gave any output, but i looked through /var/log/kern.log and found this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/115802/
[23:30] <piegod> netsurf3: NetSurf, as in the browser?
[23:30] <racecar56> if i let my virtual machine use an iso while burning the same iso to a cd will it cause problems with either?
[23:30] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip: can you recommend a good wallpaper?
[23:30] <slide> Flannel, will i need to restart anything?
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> Renfield: read lines 382
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: www.vladstudio.com
[23:31] <thiebaude> kewl
[23:31] <thiebaude> thanks
[23:31] <Flannel> slide: Shouldn't, no.
[23:31] <prahal_> Pyles17, initiliazing regulatory failed is the issue
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: lsb_release -c
[23:31] <racecar56> oh gosh im not used to how nice the buttons looked in 8.04 cause im used to the ugly ones in 8.10, :P
[23:31] <Renfield> ActionParsnip: Ok, what do I do about that? I don't remember requesting it to configure despite dependency problems.
[23:31] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: sec - http://s270.photobucket.com/albums/jj93/andrew_woodhead666/?action=view&current=snapshot1.png
[23:31] <slide> Flannel, ok so my setting was for US International (with deadkeys) so i change it to just plain USA and set it as default but it still didnt fix it
[23:32] <prahal_> Pyles17, you may need a binary client on the server . I read in a french linux magazine about this a month ago . Lemme find it
[23:32] <bkaps> hey can someone help me with alsa sound wizard
[23:32] <Renfield> ActionParsnip: I also was never told anything about dependency problems.
[23:32] <Pyles17> prahal_: thanks
[23:32] <slide> Flannel, n/m i just removed US International (with deadkeys) and now it works
[23:32] <slide> thanks!
[23:32] <racecar56> it reminds me of windows vista's buttons in a orange form... but not that i acually used vista
[23:32] <racecar56> ive only seen vista
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> Renfield: no idea dude, did you md5 your iso you downloaded as well as verify the cd once its burned
[23:32] <thiebaude> wow
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: psychadelia deluxe
[23:32] <racecar56> anyway speaking of cd/iso stuff...
[23:33] <racecar56> if i let my virtual machine use an iso while burning the same iso to a cd will it cause problems with either?
[23:33] <Renfield> ActionParsnip: AH! There is no md5sum for the mini.iso
[23:33] <marlon> marcus
[23:33] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip: i got that valentine's one
[23:33] <thiebaude> i wish i had compiz
[23:33] <marlon> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> Renfield: whats the filename you downloaded, i bet i can find one
[23:33] <bkaps> can anybody help me with alsa
[23:33] <Renfield> mini.iso
[23:33] <Pyles17> !alsa
[23:33] <marlon> any one know any website
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> thiebaude: it wows windows users, i dont find it overly useful
[23:33] <keres> i seem to have trouble installing drivers for ati 9000 pci card. Envy didn't work, and it wont show up in system->administration->hardware drivers. any thoughts?
[23:33] <prahal_> Pyles17, gasp the new open source solution is crda but the intel one I don't have the name in the article . Let s find out :)
[23:33] <racecar56> and why does intrepid's buttons look bad yet hardy's look nice
[23:33] <thiebaude> haha
[23:33] <Renfield> ActionParsnip: To help you, it is Intrepid, AMD64.
[23:33] <racecar56> not that i dont like 8.10
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> Renfield: ok let me see
[23:34] <racecar56> i do like 8.10
[23:34] <thiebaude> wow is a balmer word,haha
[23:34] <G-Bleezy> tomvolek_: hey i found a better way to remove the kernel entries you don't want....don't just erase the files, you just install the packages:  apt-get --purge remove linux-image-<IP_ADDRESS>.-whateverkernel
[23:34] <Pyles17> prahal_: ok. awesome
[23:34] <G-Bleezy> s/install/uninstall
[23:34] <prahal_> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/7.0/ipw3945d.html
[23:35] <racecar56> and why does intrepid's buttons look bad yet hardy's look nice, ill put up an image between the 2 in a bit
[23:35] <Renfield> ActionParsnip: Also, look at this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/115805/  For some reason, the other paste didn't have all of the lines of syslog.
[23:35] <netsurf3> piegod, no netsurf as in a netsurfer
[23:35] <netsurf3> i havent really played with the browser ;)
[23:36] <piegod> netsurf3: okay :)
[23:36] <stalkingwolf> Hello all.  My first time here so bare with me.
[23:36] <G-Bleezy> stalkingwolf: try google first :)
[23:36] <prahal_> Pyles17, custom kernel or ubuntu one ?
[23:36] <Pyles17> ubuntu
[23:37] <G-Blunted> hey how i install/remove kernel packages?
[23:37] <keres> i am having trouble installing the pci ati 9000 driver. envyNG does not work, it will not run. any thoughts?
[23:37] <keres> !ati
[23:37] <thiebaude> G-Blunted: through syaptic
[23:37] <niko> Guys, I have a computer without a dvd drive. is iot possible to use the dvd drive from another computer in my netwoork as if it were a native drive in mine?
[23:37] <G-Blunted> ok
[23:38] <thiebaude> G-Blunted: be careful when doing that
[23:38] <stalkingwolf> does anyone know of an application for Ubuntu that will read and edit Corel Print Office files?
[23:38] <G-Blunted> niko: yes
[23:38] <Renfield> niko: I think so.
[23:38] <niko> using ubuntu of course
[23:38] <gorgapor> what's a simple command to list unmounted disk partitions?
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> Renfield: i acn find one for 32bit
[23:38] <Pyles17> prahal: so i should use ipw3945 instead of iwl3945, even though it's the older one?
[23:38] <G-Blunted> niko just mount the drive i think
[23:38] <niko> I can see the device on the other pc, but it reads the disc as a folder
[23:38] <Renfield> ActionParsnip: Yes, I saw that one also.
[23:38] <meoblast001> can anyone help me get a bluetooth headset to work?
[23:39] <meoblast001> i've been struggling all day
[23:39] <niko> I need to read it as a DVD
[23:39] <Alloosh> hi, is there any way to open NoteOne file, the extension is .one
[23:39] <Renfield> ActionParsnip: I don't really believe that this is caused by a bad image.
[23:39] <fgfgfgdss> where i can find dvd in english????What's the cannel or server
[23:39] <niko> how
[23:39] <DIFH-iceroot> !download | fgfgfgdss
[23:39] <fgfgfgdss> !download
[23:39] <niko> how do I mount?
[23:40] <Pyles17> prahal_: so i should use ipw3945 instead of iwl3945, even though it's the older one?
[23:40] <fgfgfgdss> !download
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> Renfield: well if a package isnt being setup right it may be a bad package somewhere
[23:40] <fgfgfgdss> where i can find dvd in english????What's the cannel or server
[23:40] <Renfield> ActionParsnip: Each time I do this, a different package has a problem.
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> Renfield: could try some boot options maybe
[23:40] <DIFH-iceroot> fgfgfgdss: please read the links ubottu was posting you
[23:40] <lstarnes> fgfgfgdss: dvds of what?
[23:40] <bazhang> fgfgfgdss, ubuntu dvd?
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | Renfield
[23:40] <Renfield> ActionParsnip: Ok, I am willing to try anything.
[23:41] <prahal_> Pyles17, ouch you are right I should look after the daemon for the new one (anyway the page for the old one is dead on sourceforge it was a dead end)
[23:41] <fgfgfgdss> !help
[23:41] <bazhang> fgfgfgdss, which dvd
[23:41] <Renfield> !bootoptions
[23:41] <Pyles17> prahal_: you just have to change the url, it said 3955 instead of 3945
[23:42] <Javier17> hello, how are you' ive got a question.. i'm using hardy... and i don't know if im running the 64 or the 32bit version... how can i know?
[23:42] <niko> How do I mount a an optiocal drive from a networked computer in my Ubuntu one? sorry for noob question
[23:42] <lstarnes> Javier17: uname -m
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> niko: share the drive with samba then smbmount it
[23:42] <fgfgfgdss> i want divx
[23:42] <fgfgfgdss> divx
[23:42] <racecar56> http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/63/hardyintrepidbuttonscomgr0.png top is hardy and bottom is ibex
[23:43] <racecar56> why is ibex's look so ugly
[23:43] <bazhang> fgfgfgdss, not here, likely not on freenode
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> !codecs | fgfgfgdss
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: gnome or kde?
[23:43] <bazhang> racecar56, please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:43] <fgfgfgdss> !codecs
[23:43] <racecar56> gnome
[23:43] <thiebaude> racecar56: change the look of it
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> racecar56: head into offtopic dude
[23:43] <racecar56> ok
[23:43] <Javier17> lstarnes: X86_64
[23:44] <lstarnes> Javier17: that's 64 bit
[23:44] <Javier17> lstarnes: thank you
[23:44] <fgfgfgdss> what is a good server where i can find divx in english???
[23:44] <niko> ActionParsnip: how do I do that, sorry. sorta new here
[23:44] <isase> fgfgfgdss: divx.com?
[23:45] <bazhang> fgfgfgdss, please dont ask here; this is ubuntu support ONLY
[23:45] <fgfgfgdss> the server no the site
[23:45] <lstarnes> fgfgfgdss: this channel will not help you do illegal things
[23:45] <nightrid3r> fgfgfgdss: <IP_ADDRESS> anonymous
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> !samba | niko
[23:45] <Luuuks> divx != illegal :P
[23:45] <lstarnes> Luuuks: a lot of content made with divx is
[23:46] <niko> booth are linux machines
[23:46] <isase> @lstarnes: umm, no?
[23:46] <niko> and I can see the drive allready
[23:46] <niko> I just dont know how to mount it
[23:46] <isase> divx is just a video codec, same as wmv, xvid, avi, etc
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> lstarnes: lots of mpegs are of illegal movie pirates, yet vlc is available?
[23:46] <BBishop> I still don't get why the damn html validator won't work on ubuntu's firefox .. :|
[23:46] <thiebaude> they also say that playing dvd's are illegal too
[23:46] <DIFH-iceroot> lstarnes: a lot of content shared by bittorrent too
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> niko: its one solution, linux can read samba shared resources too
[23:47] <niko> ok, bbut how do I mount it?
[23:47] <lstarnes> ActionParsnip: I'm not saying divx is illegal, I'm just saying that it is often used for pirated dvds
[23:47] <isase> lstarnes: what you're REAL:Y saying is that you're talknig out your ass
[23:47] <isase> :P
[23:48] <mrpockets> hey guys
[23:48] <solid_liquid> #/j #kubuntu
[23:48] <LH{> hey
[23:48] <Luuux> guyyys i need help installing libssh pls
[23:48] <LH{> can someone help me with compiz fusion, I cant seem to get themes
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> lstarnes: (23:45:27) lstarnes: fgfgfgdss: this channel will not help you do illegal things
[23:48] <mrpockets> so I'm trying to add a networked printer, and its going well exceopt, it asks for a password for "localhost" at the end of the setup
[23:48] <LH{> im stuck with the stock coffee ubuntu
[23:48] <blizzle> lstarnes, Better left unsaid. Some people use knives for cooking, some for murder. :)
[23:48] <mrpockets> i don't have any host names named localhost
[23:48] <isase> mrpockets: localhost = the machine you're on
[23:49] <piegod> <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:49] <mrpockets> isase, that password doesn't work
[23:49] <Luuux> guyyys i need help installing libssh pls, when i am writing make it gives errors pls help
[23:49] <lstarnes> Luuuks: what errors?
[23:49] <ScottG> Shrinking a partition doesnt delete any data from it right?
[23:49] <isase> luuux: what errors?
[23:49] <isase> ScottG: no
[23:49] <nightrid3r> !info libssh
[23:49] <mib_w2re6368> hey guys.  Which filesystem is best for a low-cpu system?
[23:49] <piegod> How do I file a sync request?
[23:49] <prahal_> Pyles17, I found out the iwl driver is new in that the regulatory is no more in a daemon but in the firmware http://www.linux-archive.org/fedora-development/78476-iwl3945-driver-channel-capability.html  but .... there is a thing about config80211
[23:49] <DIFH-iceroot> ScottG: but a backup is a good idea
[23:49] <Luuux> isase, PM lstarnes, PM
[23:49] <mib_w2re6368> and low memory as well...
[23:49] <isase> ScottG: you do run the risk of data loss, but it's a pretty small chance. the operation itself doesn't delete any data
[23:49] <lstarnes> Luuuks: please keep it in the channel if possible
[23:50] <nightrid3r> Luuux: you probably need to install ssh-dev package
[23:50] <prahal_> Pyles17, which region are you in ? US/JP or else ?
[23:50] <Pyles17> prahal_: us
[23:50] <Dartel> Evening All
[23:50] <ScottG> isase: I dont really have anywhere do back the data up to :/
[23:50] <isase> ScottG: then you run the risk of losing it - small risk, but it's there
[23:51] <isase> ScottG: the partition resize operation itself doesn'tr erase data, though
[23:52] <DIFH-iceroot> Luuux: the package is called libssh-2
[23:52] <Luuux> nightrid3r, did it will work for THC-Hydra? i need libssh for that..
[23:52] <DIFH-iceroot> Luuux: sudo apt-get install libssh-2
[23:52] <Dartel> Is this the best place for new converts from Windoze to Linux (Ubuntu 8.10)?
[23:52] <slide> Is there an ¨official¨ way to update Vuze to the v4?
[23:53] <DIFH-iceroot> Luuux: and look apt-cache search libssh  which one you needed/want
[23:53] <blizzle> Dartel, Welcome. Yes.
[23:53] <DIFH-iceroot> Dartel: yes
[23:53] <racecar56> gtg
[23:53] <mib_w2re6368> What filesystem is best for older systems?  I want to make a home server with a box that's running an 800mhz AMD Athlon with 128 mb ram
[23:53] <G-Blunted> Dartel, i just switched yesterday and im here :)
[23:53] <nightrid3r> Luuux: make is for compiling if it error's like that install the dev package, in this case for ssh
[23:53] <blizzle> mib_w2re6368, ext3 is fine.
[23:53] <mib_w2re6368> blizzle:  Is there something that'll tax the hardware less than ext3?
[23:54] <blizzle> mib_w2re6368, ext3 won't tax the hardware hard. It's fine.
[23:54] <nightrid3r> Luuux: installing a *-dev package will also install the lib if not already there
[23:54] <DIFH-iceroot> mib_w2re6368: ext3 without journal or ext2
[23:54] <S4nD3r> Hi there. My laptop is crashing, Id like to discover the reason. What to do? Usually crashes when nobody uses...
[23:54] <DIFH-iceroot> S4nD3r: looking at the logs first is a good idea
[23:54] <mib_w2re6368> okay thanks guys.  does xfs still have reliability issues?
[23:54] <G-Blunted> S4nD3r, : probably over heats
[23:55] <blizzle> mib_w2re6368, And journalling is something you're better with that without. Not worth sacrificing for nominal performance gains.
[23:55] <nightrid3r> S4nD3r: prob has to do with hybernation which is still problematic under linux
[23:55] <blizzle> *than
[23:55] <Dartel> This system is 256 meg ram and 500Mhz Intel cpu with a whopping 6 gig hard drive
[23:55] <S4nD3r> ummm...
[23:55] <S4nD3r> which log file register crashes?
[23:55] <nightrid3r> Dartel: wow big iron :)
[23:55] <Dartel> And Xchat is my first succesful software install
[23:56] <MoTec> heh, this is a virtual machine, running on a host with an intel atom processor and 1gb of RAM :)
[23:56] <Dartel> Ok you win Motec
[23:56] <isase> MoTec: masochism much?
[23:56] <isase> :P
[23:56] <Synx_hm> How can i install boot code to the MBR of a usb drive, the 'Create a USB startup disk' tool in 8.10 is copying the files but not replacing the windows boot code in the MBR on the drive
[23:56] <crdlb> mib_w2re6368: don't even consider xfs without a really good UPS and several backups
[23:56] <blizzle> Dartel, Xubuntu is your best bet.
[23:56] <MoTec> hehe, all i use is CLI stuff, so it's okay :)
[23:57] <fabio> i want to have a osx menu in gnome
[23:57] <Dartel> Better than Gnome? or easier?
[23:57] <fabio> gnome rocks
[23:57] <MoTec> xubuntu works better with lower powered systems
[23:57] <blizzle> Dartel, On your system, much better performance, as well as being easier to tweak.
[23:57] <G-Blunted> i just installed Xubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 8500 and love it...
[23:58] <Dartel> I was already severyly impressed today when I hovered the mouse over a music file and it started playing
[23:58] <nightrid3r> xubuntu runs fine on a PII with 128MB ram and 3.2GB HD
[23:58] <blizzle> Dartel, To the unitiated, there's little difference between Gnome and a default Xfce setup.
[23:58] <MoTec> i put xubuntu on my dell mini-9 it works great..   Had to go back to windows for work, tho.. And I can't get the laptop to boot off of it's sd card :(
[23:58] <S4nD3r> probably screensaver
[23:59] <fabio> my gnome start with 60 megs
[23:59] <S4nD3r> Just crashes when computer becomes idle
[23:59] <MrBC> Can Gnome's desktop icon text be reduced so everything lines up?
[23:59] <Dartel> But I downloaded Google earth it is a .bin file no clue how to install, and wonder can it be installed and ran from thum drive?
[23:59] <blizzle> Dartel, chmod +x and then run it.
[23:59] <fabio> ./program.bin


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 acheronuk: Done. lol
[00:17] <acheronuk> I saw. lol
[00:18] <santa_> tsimonq2: kwayland failed to build, could you re-run gbp-ppa on that one so we can see what happened?
 santa_: One sec:
 Fix, santa_?
[00:25] <santa_> tsimonq2: fixed, soe¡mehow the branch wasn't merged
 k thx
 santa_: Then we have Xenial to go.
 After I get that done, we're good.
 santa_: All of the deps are automatically bumped, RIGHT?
[00:32] <santa_> tsimonq2: yes, they were when running gbp-nr
 Awesome. :)
[00:39]  * acheronuk tests tsimonq2's ark fix
 thx man
[00:40] <acheronuk> nearly forgot!
[00:40] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: 16.10 test will have to wait for a new VM I will make tomorrow to test plasma 5.8
 cool thx man
[00:44] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: on zesty tested on 3 rar archives. seems ok.
 acheronuk, santa_<EMAIL_ADDRESS> That's the patch pilot calendar.
 They'll be marked as active or inactive in the #ubuntu-devel topic.\
 So you get to poke those people for trivial fixes. ;)
 (or fixes that don't require mass uploads)
 For example, my ark fix.
 If you didn't know, these are the people that work for Canonical that have upload access. They pick a day once a month and they work on the sponsorship queue.
 That's the policy. ;)
 So acheronuk, if that ark fix is good to go, I'll get it in the queue.
 (I'm assuming it is)
 Then tomorrow morning I'll poke Iain Lane. :)
[01:05] <santa_> good to know
 Done, should be in the queue now.
 santa_: Uploading Xenial Frameworks packages now.
[01:11] <santa_> o
[01:11] <santa_> ok
[01:25] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: meant to mention, please don't change the nightly timer again for now. there was a bug giving a NullPointerExpection when trying to re-enable it, that needs looking into
 👍
[01:27] <acheronuk> *Exception lol
[01:27]  * acheronuk rubs eyes
[02:05] <acheronuk> santa_: so, say I want to do some fixes tomorrow, changes go to the normal _backports branch at the moment?
[02:05] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: ^^
 I would say so
[02:10] <santa_> acheronuk: yes, we are using branches as allways were used (afaik)
[02:10] <acheronuk> ok. noted. thnx
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[03:13] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: please do not trigger the nightly later
 Ok
[03:17] <acheronuk> there are not many KE prejects that have had stuff pushed to git the last 24hrs, so I would do manual prodding of those that have tomorrow
 How do you know?
[03:17] <acheronuk> I mean I will do
[03:18] <acheronuk> https://quickgit.kde.org/?sort=age
 I wonder if instead of doing a nightly, when someone pushes there, the job runs in KCI
[03:21] <acheronuk> night :)
 o/
[07:10] <jr> Hello
[07:10] <jr> Not sure if this is the right channel
[07:10] <jr> I'm once again being contacted by kubuntu-ci :(
[07:13] <jr> Can't this bot check if it is messaging the right person ?
[07:14] <jr> (By having the user commands in directly in the chan to appair the nick to its account, if the user is logged in in Freenode)
[07:24] <acheronuk> Riddell: jr would be your id on kubuntu-ci/KCI, yes
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[09:21] <jimarvan> goood morning everyone :)
[09:22] <acheronuk> hi jimarvan
[09:23] <jimarvan> hey acheronuk :) How is it going?
[09:23] <jimarvan> glpbs
[09:25] <acheronuk> jimarvan: usual mix of great and mildly ****ed up
[09:35] <jimarvan> :)
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[12:45] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
 morning :)
 Hai Rik :D
[12:51] <acheronuk> frameworks built after much prodding. needs to QA check though
 Hey y'all you guys hey
 See ubuntu-devel-discuss
 I'll reply with what Kubuntu does
[13:00] <ahoneybun> wxl: about that meeting: I think the UOS is this week
 Bah :/
 santa_: so I can use taht for any ppa now?
[13:25] <santa_> acheronuk: what is 'that'?
 The trello notification on TG. about gbp-ppa
[13:30] <santa_> acheronuk: you could use it for any ppa before I did that, the task I have just marked as 'done' is just to make it able to build the 'ka-deps' package (which is a native package)
[13:31] <acheronuk> ah. I must have misread a comment someone made about using outside our ppas
[13:31] <santa_> acheronuk: the only thing specific for kubuntu ppas in gbp-ppa is just the ppa version suffix guessing, but you can just override it with "-s <suffix>"
[13:31] <acheronuk> I have not tried in a while
[13:32] <acheronuk> I though someone said it was broken
[13:33]  * acheronuk runs memcheck on his possibly faulty memory
[13:41] <BluesKaj> why would I have inode/dirs on my outboard drive that are copies of my / and /home partitions on the internal drive ? I certainly didn't copy the data over
[14:43] <acheronuk> santa_: discover 5.8.3 from debian has an appstream 0.10+ compatibility patch. so debian set the min appstream version in their deps to 0.10.3, which is what they have in unstable.
[14:45] <acheronuk> the cmake check just looks for 0.10 I think? so can we get away with just lowering that for yakkety, as that has 0.10.1?
[14:46] <acheronuk> Xenial has appstream 0.9.4-1 so maybe the patch and bumped dep can be disabled for that?
[14:49] <santa_> acheronuk: maybe, feel free to try, it's either that or backporting appstream in our ppas
[14:50] <acheronuk> santa_: yeah, but I'm unsure if that impacts anything else in ubuntu. to be honest, not sure what else uses it!
[14:51] <acheronuk> santa_: anyway... I shall try, and see how discover works in each
[14:54] <santa_> that's a good point, indeed
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[15:36] <acheronuk> I *think* xenial will require a new appstream. will test more later hopefully
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[16:04] <blaze> Qt5.7 is still not good enough for debian testing, does it mean zesty will have 5.6?
[16:08] <acheronuk> blaze: the ubuntu Qt devs were planning to land 5.7 in the new year in zesty
[16:10] <acheronuk> blaze: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/QtTesting
[16:27] <blaze> I see, so the situation is basically the same as in debian
[16:27] <blaze> they're waiting for the patch release to bring fixes for some exotic architectures
[16:36] <acheronuk> santa_ tsimonq2 so far so good with an upgrade in a yakkety VM
[16:40]  * BluesKaj hasn't had an upgrade on YY for a couple of days
[16:43] <acheronuk> BluesKaj: I'm talking about the staging ppas
[16:46] <blaze> acheronuk: what are you testing? frameworks?
[16:46] <BluesKaj> ok , acheronuk just let us know, Ill uncomment the ppa
[16:47] <acheronuk> blaze: frameworks 5.27 and plasma 5.8.3
[16:47] <blaze> cool
[16:47] <acheronuk> in a VM!
[16:48] <BluesKaj> sounds like more than just minor changes
[16:49] <BluesKaj> I'm running YY as full OS here on it;'s own partition , same for ZZ
[16:49] <acheronuk> staging for potential backports, so yes, not minor
[16:49] <BluesKaj> acheronuk, god, I'm looking forward to them
[16:50] <BluesKaj> good even :-)
[16:50] <acheronuk> both sound right ;)
[16:54] <jimarvan> see ya later peeps :)
[19:25] <wxl> ahoneybun: well yeah shoot
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[20:34] <acheronuk> santa_: even with the latest changes due to go into 5.8.4, discover in Xenial seems to reject the archive version of appstream at build time. So I guess it's a backport of at least the yakkety version or nothing
[20:41] <santa_> acheronuk: ok
[20:44] <acheronuk> oh, and I switched the normal QA pages from zesty to yakkety to generate at least a few reports on the YY backports
[20:46] <acheronuk> switch it back if you want the zesty ones updated again
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[21:04] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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 So I'm working after school for the rest of the week then on Saturday. If you guys want to throw me things to do, now is the time.
[21:35] <santa_> tsimonq2: making sure that frameworks is fine in the kci would be very helpful for 5.28
 Will do
 @santa_, good call
[22:29] <wxl> tsimonq2: do you know anything about OBI/9w?
[22:29] <tsimonq2> O__o
[22:29] <tsimonq2> wtf?
[22:29] <wxl> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/AdvancedMethods#Alternative_installers
[22:30] <wxl> i note the images are not hosted on canonical infrastructure and that said we should probably jettison those
[22:30] <tsimonq2> So this should go on #lubuntu-devel?
[22:30] <wxl> ooops
[22:30] <wxl> derp
[22:30] <wxl> that's what i meant to do :/
[23:28] <tsimonq2> kde bug 372300
[23:29] <mamarley> https://www.kde.org/info/security/advisory-20161114-1.txt Ouch.
[23:30] <valorie> the packages and ISOs have been rebuilt afaik
[23:30] <valorie> the neon team was on that ASAP
[23:30] <mamarley> I don't doubt it, but still, ouch.
[23:31] <valorie> yes
[23:34] <tsimonq2> Weeeeeeeeeeeee
[23:34] <tsimonq2> Bug 1636655
[23:34] <tsimonq2> Fix uploaded to Zesty!
[23:34] <tsimonq2> In a little bit I'll start the SRU process.
[23:36] <acheronuk> tsimonq2: sorry. I see you pinged me, but was doing other stuff. sorted now?
[23:38] <tsimonq2> acheronuk: Yes
[23:51] <wxl> so which part of kubuntu uses mysql?
[23:51] <wxl> baloo?
[23:52] <wxl> akonadi?
[23:52] <tsimonq2> I thought akonadi
[23:52] <tsimonq2> Why?
[23:53] <wxl> just curious
[23:59] <valorie> so does amarok


[12:35] <BEC> Hi; how can I change an app icon in  unity (better in whole system)?
[13:35] <JanC> BEC: change (in '/usr/share/applications/') or override (in '~/.local/share/applications/') its .desktop file, or replace/override the actual icon
[13:35] <JanC> so, also depends on what you really want to do
[14:21] <BEC> JanC, oh thanks :) i used the 1st
[14:21] <BEC> it changed in the dash but not in the launcher though!
[14:21] <BEC> needs a reboot?
[14:22] <JanC> BEC: remember that the files under /usr might get overwritten on package upgrades
[14:22] <BEC> JanC, aha; what can I do to keep them?
[14:23] <JanC> and a restart of the session should be enough