[12:01] <TOXIC_> Och4, wait, are yU using beryl ?
[12:01] <soundray> Guitrokr: once that's done, you need to fix grub on the internal disk so it doesn't rely on the external one any more. Or replace it with another bootloader.
[12:01] <BobSoft> velko, Okay. I checked it out. This is the command I've already run: sudo gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 437D05B5. This relates to the Ubuntu Repositories. The response from bash is: gpg: Total number processed: 1; gpg: unchanged: 1. So this part has be fulfilled previously.
[12:01] <TOXIC_> omarion, ATI cards works on fawxn ? realy ? what card do you have ?
[12:01] <Och4> TOXIC_,  yes. just beryl, nothing else
[12:02] <deCon> ummm, i'm having some issues with firefox media ....for some reason, no videos will play, and I'm on feisty
[12:02] <Guitrokr> it can't just be deleted?
[12:02] <Salsa911> I thought 7.04 was supposed to have better wireless support...has anyone else found it to be better?
[12:02] <Wokm4n> what videos?
[12:02] <sigg> Is there a way to see what processes are going on like a task manager in windows?
[12:02] <Salsa911> A friend of mine still can't connect wirelessly.
[12:02] <TOXIC_> Och4, to have beryl work, you must have AIGLX, I guess your on edgy ?
[12:02] <deCon> any plugin type videos
[12:02] <soundray> Guitrokr: of course it can. But then you won't have a bootloader. And a system that won't boot. Hint: that's not what you want ;)
[12:02] <omarion> TOXIC_: 9250
[12:02] <Salsa911> I haven't had trouble, but I didn't have any issues before I upgraded either.
[12:02] <velko> BobSoft, did you have gpg installed? it's in the gnupg package
[12:03] <MidNightSunRay> can anyone tell me where to download gcompizthemer? it isn't included in the official repos...
[12:03] <TOXIC_> omarion, perhaps you know if ATI X700 works on fawn.... I'd test it right now !
[12:03] <BobSoft> velko, So this key is in my keyring. So far, so good. I also use this (dpkg-scanpackages . /dev/null > Packages && gzip Packages) to create the Packages.gz file.
[12:03] <linkster> sean http://strayduck.wordpress.com/2007/04/09/mapping-the-custom-keys-in-ubuntu-610/
[12:03] <dygerati> Recently installed Feisty on my laptop - wireless WORKS, but Network manager doesn't seem to treat it as a wireless card. (Icon in try is the standard wired lan one, and no option to switch networks)..any tho'ts?
[12:03] <n00buntu> speaking of wireless anyone have a minute to answer a noob questions for a total noob?
[12:03] <Guitrokr> i mean grub
[12:03] <BobSoft> velko, GPG's installed.
[12:03] <Guitrokr> not the bootloader
[12:03] <deCon> dygerati, network manager sucks
[12:03] <soundray> Guitrokr: grub is the bootloader
[12:03] <deCon> ask away n00buntu!
[12:03] <Guitrokr> but before i had grub my computer booted windows
[12:03] <magnetron> sigg: System > administration > "system manager" ( i use swedish ubuntu)
[12:03] <omarion> TOXIC_: sorry, but i've read that ubuntu still have troubles with ati cards
[12:03] <bbrock> does anyone know how to install limewire on ubuntu, its really the only reason i installed it
[12:03] <Guitrokr> i still have windows
[12:03] <velko> BobSoft, i use reprepo to create the repositories
[12:03] <Och4> TOXIC_,  nope, im on feisty or whatever it's called
[12:04] <BobSoft> velko, bash says: "gnupg is already the newest version."
[12:04] <dygerati> deCon, really...hadn't heard. Alternative?
[12:04] <Guitrokr> ubuntu is just on the external
[12:04] <MenZa> How do I change the mountpoint for a device?
[12:04] <soundray> Guitrokr: yes. It was using the Windows bootloader, which is now overwritten by grub.
[12:04] <linkster> projector + ATI + fglrx anyone?
[12:04] <velko> BobSoft, reprepro*
[12:04] <deCon> bbrock, try something better. Frostwire is on the Gnutella network and works very similarly, but better
[12:04] <TOXIC_> omarion, thx, i'm sorry to hear that... damn, I was so hoping !
[12:04] <Guitrokr> it didn't even ask me in installation though
[12:04] <deCon> bbrock, sudo aptitude install frostwire
[12:04] <Och4> TOXIC_,  why do i need aiglx?
[12:04] <Guitrokr> i didn't want it there
[12:04] <scorcher8> Has anyone else who is affected by this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/66254 found any kind of work around? No one seems to have a solution.
[12:04] <n00buntu> decon  thanks.. before i upgraded to 7.04 my wireless pcmcia existed and worked. after i upgrade the device doesn't exist. does this mean the driver is nolonger on my system?
[12:04] <Guitrokr> had it asked i would have known right where i wanted it
[12:04] <omarion> TOXIC_: maybe in the future, i hope that
[12:04] <Pelo> bbrok  I suggest you try frostwire instead, very similar but without the spy stuff,   you need to install sun-java-6.jre first ,  same woudl apply to limewire if you insist
[12:04] <deCon> dygerati, not that i know of, i'm wired so i haven't worried about it, however, what are you trying to accomplish?
[12:05] <soundray> Guitrokr: about 99.8% of people want to boot with grub, that's why it doesn't ask.
[12:05] <TOXIC_> Och4, aiglx make beryl works, beryl needs more than just gnome to work...
[12:05] <alek> hi
[12:05] <TOXIC_> omarion, so do I
[12:05] <Guitrokr> so then is there any way to just make it so it automatically loads windows if it can't find the external that grub is referring to for ubuntu?
[12:05] <TOXIC_> Och4, you got nvidia card ?
[12:05] <bbrock> deCon, how do i install frostwire? do i download it or do i type that into terminal?
[12:05] <deCon> n00buntu, go to system-->admin-->network and tell me what you see
[12:05] <alek> i have a problem, i cant use the grpahic interface since i connected my printer, any idea?
[12:05] <linkster> if you can't get AIGLX (if you need fglrx drivers) you can use beryl with XGL instead
[12:05] <shawnr34> help!
[12:05] <Guitrokr> because at this time i get an error if i try to boot my machine alone without the external, and its a laptop! so thats bad
[12:05] <Pelo> Guitrokr,  edit  /boot/grub/menu.list and put the windows stuff first in the list
[12:05] <shawnr34> forgot my keyring password. what can i do?
[12:05] <soundray> Guitrokr: not really
[12:06] <dygerati> deCon: just trying to get the wireless functionality (right-click, select network). Not urgent, just tho't it might be a quick fix. Thanks anyhow
[12:06] <Guitrokr> ok i'll try
[12:06] <deCon> bbrock, most things you can install from the repositories using aptitude or apt-get (apt-get and aptitude are essentially the same, but aptitude installs all dependencies on its own)
[12:06] <omarion> TOXIC_: the golden advice, use nvidia, it works well on linux, that's what im going to do soon
[12:06] <Och4> toxic, yea.  I got nvidia, but no aiglx, is there a good tutorial to help me?
[12:06] <soundray> Pelo: Guitrokr has ubuntu on an external disk, so that approach won't work
[12:06] <n00buntu> decon, lasttime i was there just had eth0 and lo 1 sec i'll check
[12:06] <BobSoft> velko, Oh. Cool. Okay. I'll give it a shot. It's just that it's a small issue. One can download the repositories, add the pgp keys... and ensure they're entirely trustworthy with this command: (gpg --edit-key 437D05B5 (to which I key in 'trust' and a setting of 5 for ultimate)). Then when I install an application it complains saying the source is untrustworthy. Weird.
[12:06] <Pelo> Guitrokr,  if that doesn'T work try asking in #grub
[12:06] <Guitrokr> ok i won't try it
[12:06] <Guitrokr> haha
[12:06] <bbrock> deCon, im sorry i just started using linux last night. is aptitude a program?
[12:06] <soundray> Pelo: not once Guitrokr has disconnected the disk at least.
[12:06] <magnetron> shawner34, you can delete it and make a new one. you have to retype your old passwords though
[12:06] <Pelo> soundray,  I see,  you are right that won't work
[12:06] <n00buntu> decon, i see wired connection and modem connection.
[12:06] <deCon> bbrock, try "sudo aptitude install frostwire", and if your not ready for the command line interface "CLI", use synaptic package manager in system-->administration
[12:06] <TOXIC_> yes, now, I knbow, but I'm not giving up the $1000$ of my leptop just because an ATI card !
[12:06] <soundray> Pelo: why are you sending him away before I've given up? ;)
[12:07] <Pelo> soundray,  that wasn'T my plan
[12:07] <bbrock> deCon, i will try that, thanks so much!
[12:07] <Och4> TOXIC_,  yea.  I got nvidia, but no aiglx, is there a good tutorial to help me?
[12:07] <kleftisx> hello i have install DebootstrapChroot on an amd64 how can i run 32bit applications now?
[12:07] <BobSoft> velko, Is 'reprepro' in the repositories? Or should I build it from source...
[12:07] <sn0> evening all, having trouble with my cs46xx hercules III 7.1 card and getting any surround sound to work, i have created .asoundrc as per http://alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Hercules&card=Game+Fortissimo+II&chip=CS4624&module=cs46xx which makes 0 difference to the default 2 speakers i hear in ubuntu feisty, not sure where to go next
[12:07] <Pelo> I,m just trying to clean the channel
[12:07] <axl000> how can i connect to a network with dhcp with command line? sorry for my bad english
[12:07] <velko> BobSoft, it's in the repos
[12:07] <TOXIC_> omarion, yes, now, I knbow, but I'm not giving up the $1800 (1600)  of my leptop just because an ATI card !
[12:07] <Salsa911> How can you show all available wireless networks in the area?
[12:07] <linkster> projector + ATI + fglrx anyone?
[12:07] <Guitrokr> so i get why it errors but i wish if it could find both operating systems it would just load the windows
[12:07] <deCon> dygerati, go to system-->admin-->network and let me know what you see..you should see a wireless in there
[12:07] <soundray> Guitrokr: I suggest you find a way to add a boot option for Linux in NTLDR (the Windows bootloader). There are howtos for that on the net.
[12:07] <magnetron> Pelo, this channel is the support channel. don't "clean" it from people
[12:07] <omarion> TOXIC_: you're right :D
[12:08] <velko> BobSoft, if you need help i can pastebin or pm you the config files and the commands to populate the repos
[12:08] <Pelo> sn0,   there iis a seciton on sound surround in  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty
[12:08] <TOXIC_> Och4, sorry, I have ati, so I cant help you with that, but I think you sould try it without beryl !
[12:08] <Guitrokr> hmm
[12:08] <sn0> running "speaker-test -Dplug:surround51 -c6 -l1 -twav
[12:08] <sn0> " makes sound come from al but the centre speaker, but running "speaker-test -c 6 -D surround51
[12:08] <sn0> " i get static in all speakers
[12:08] <deCon> bbrock, aptitude is a "package manager" (no worries mate, this is my first month and the learning curve is amazing0
[12:08] <Guitrokr> will that let me get rid of grub?
[12:08] <Guitrokr> cuz i like grub i just wish it wouldn't error and do nothing when it can't find ubuntu
[12:08] <Pelo> magnetron,  there is nothing wrong with dirrecting ppl to specialised channel when they have pointed problems
[12:08] <BobSoft> velko, Ooo. That would be cool. I'd appreciate help to improve this tutorial.
[12:08] <MenZa> How do I change the mountpoint for harddrive?
[12:08] <soundray> Guitrokr: you will have to use a Windows install CD to "repair" NTLDR
[12:09] <omarion> TOXIC_: so graphics card is your only problem in ubuntu? which version do u use?
[12:09] <knoppix_> hi
[12:09] <Slart> MenZa: check the file /mnt/fstab
[12:09] <BobSoft> I'm going to install 'reprepro' and give you the output errors apt gives when I install from local files.
[12:09] <linkster> menza: edit /etc/fstab
[12:09] <Pelo> Guitrokr,   I think you can restore your MBR using the windows cd but I donT' know how
[12:09] <knoppix_> wow
[12:09] <MenZa> Slart: :D
[12:09] <Guitrokr> lol i don't even think i have windows install cd
[12:09] <BobSoft> velko, I'm going to install 'reprepro' and give you the output errors apt gives when I install from local files.
[12:09] <bbrock> deCon, gotcha, i typed that into terminal but it said it was "unable to unlock administration directory"\
[12:09] <deCon> bbrock, aptitude, apt-get, and synaptic aka synaptic package manager are the main ways to install, you wont have to worry about compiling from source or installing from downloads for a while, though if you find a .tar or .gz file that you want to install, you simply locate it by terminal and use the command install
[12:09] <Slart> MenZa: you have to be root to edit it.. oops.. /etc/fstab
[12:09] <soundray> Guitrokr: if that's what you prefer, you can install grub for NT.
[12:09] <Guitrokr> whats NT?
[12:09] <magnetron> Pelo, just be careful.
[12:09] <Och4> TOXIC_,  oh kay.  ill give it a tryed, but if i want it with beryl, should i try installing aiglx
[12:09] <deCon> bbrock, so to do an installation from command line (terminal) you would type sudo aptitude install filename/program
[12:09] <BFTD> Hi, how do i get ubuntu to see all the downloaded packages that are in /var/cache/apt/archives/ and add them to the package list?
[12:09] <TOXIC_> Och4, I realy think it mioght be impossible to do it with beryl and aiglx on, you should try without, to be sure thats the problem...
[12:09] <sn0> Pelo i have followed the ubuntuguide method and comments on ubuntuforums, haven't been able to get any output on more than 2 speakers
[12:09] <trumpeter2003> Guitrokr: To fix a broken Windows MBR, use fixmbr
[12:09] <soundray> Guitrokr: I don't know much about it, I think it's slightly experimental. Again, search the web if that is the way you want to go
[12:10] <Smilez> Hello everyone. I have narrowed down my screen resolution problem, to be an issue with the monitor. I plugged in my CRT and rebooted, and it loaded at 1024x768 as the default. Then I can plug in my LCD instead and it works fine. How can i get the settings to stay?
[12:10] <deCon> bbrock, you typed sudo aptitude install frostwire?
[12:10] <trumpeter2003> Guitrokr: That is, when you go through the windows cd and select recovery console
[12:10] <sn0> either no sound or sound on 2 speakers, i have checked volume isn't muted
[12:10] <soundray> Guitrokr: NT is the technology base for the current Windows products
[12:10] <deCon> bbrock, have you enabled all universe and multiverse repositories
[12:10] <davisc> BFTD: You could sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb
[12:10] <deCon> !repositories > bbrock
[12:10] <Pelo> sn0,  try consulting the forum, you might find a solution there,   I have nothing to contribute
[12:10] <MenZa> It's not listed in /etc/fstab
[12:10] <Slart> MenZa: I think you can get some more info from "man fstab"... this is not ubuntu specific so there are lots of info on the net about fstab
[12:10] <MenZa> strangely
[12:10] <Guitrokr> *sigh* the horrors of knowing nothing about linux and encountering a problem
[12:10] <Smilez> Is there a way I can choose my monitor in a GUI??
[12:10] <BFTD> davisc: thanks
[12:10] <sn0> Pelo will do thanks
[12:10] <TOXIC_> omarion, I use windows for graphical application (Games, 3D Creation for work :SolidEdge...) and ubuntu Dapper with xorg-driver-fglrx the rest of the time...
[12:10] <Guitrokr> well i thank you for your help soundray
[12:10] <deCon> Guitrokr, whats wrong, ill try to help?
[12:10] <bbrock> deCon, i'm honestly not sure if i've enabled all repositories
[12:10] <soundray> Guitrokr: what horrors? You're being helped by friendly guys ;)
[12:11] <BobSoft> velko, "sudo aptitude install reprepro" WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed! Untrusted packages could compromise your system's security. You should only proceed with the installation if you are certain that this is what you want to do.
[12:11] <linkster> MenZa: create an fstab entry for it
[12:11] <Slart> Smilez: if you're using ubuntu they include a nice little utility for changing things
[12:11] <Guitrokr> grub will just error when i don't have my external plugged in which contains linux deCon
[12:11] <MenZa> linkster: I don't know where it is in /dev/
[12:11] <MenZa> ugh
[12:11] <deCon> bbrock, go through the steps to do that first, its a big deal
[12:11] <Smilez> Slart, can you point me in the right direction?
[12:11] <Slart> Smilez: ngh.. sorry.. if you're using nvidia
[12:11] <omarion> TOXIC_: dont you use cedega? or it doesn't work well
[12:11] <bbrock> deCon, ok i will do that right now
[12:11] <BobSoft> velko, But the packages are a mirror of the Ubuntu repos and all GPG keys are in the ring. Gah! ;-)
[12:11] <Smilez> pardon?
[12:11] <BFTD> davisc: I get an error "aurgument list too long"
[12:11] <soundray> Guitrokr: the other thing you can do is create a micro boot partition on the internal disk just for the stuff that grub needs
[12:11] <deCon> bbrock, go to ubuntuguide.org and start trying the things it says, and youll start learning fast...though you will still not understand why they do it for a while....thats the fun of troubleshooting!
[12:11] <TOXIC_> Och4, I guess you already have aiglx... it was part of edgy, si it must be with fawn too... just try that command :"cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep composite"
[12:12] <Slart> Smilez: what kind of graphics card are you using?
[12:12] <Smilez> i just want to know where i can tell Gnome that my monitor can support 1024x768
[12:12] <velko> BobSoft, reprepro is in universe
[12:12] <TOXIC_> omarion, don't work well...
[12:12] <davisc> BFTD: Weird....
[12:12] <MenZa> Smilez: in xorg.conf
[12:12] <Guitrokr> i have a laptop and so if it goes to standby or i reboot while using windows i can't boot it up
[12:12] <linkster> MenZa where is it mounting now?
[12:12] <TOXIC_> omarion, tooooooooo slow !
[12:12] <n00buntu> decon, if wireless connection isn't network settings does this mean i need to add the driver for my wireless card?
[12:12] <Smilez> Slart, its an Nvidia, but i think the problem is in the detection of my monitor
[12:12] <MenZa> Smilez: Have you modified your xorg.conf file manually?
[12:12] <MenZa> linkster: /media/disk
[12:12] <Smilez> yeah, and its fine.
[12:12] <Smilez> it has 1024x768 in it
[12:12] <shawnr34> can i user gnome-rdp to remote into other linux boxes?
[12:12] <Guitrokr> i don't want to partition my internal, thats why i went with an install on an external, i don't want to lose my stuff
[12:12] <MenZa> Smilez: With the resolutions added, too?
[12:12] <Smilez> yep
[12:12] <davisc> BFTD: Are you sure there are files in that directory?
[12:12] <MenZa> hmm
[12:12] <MenZa> Pass :/
[12:12] <deCon> Guitrokr, you probably need what the other guy said, but i know nothing of externals... try google
[12:12] <Slart> Smilez: in the system tools menu I have a "Nvidia X server settings" application
[12:12] <Smilez> heres what i find weird
[12:12] <BobSoft> velko, Thing is: if I create DVDs using the same files and then use 'apt-cdrom' to include these DVDs in apt's arsenal of sources: it doesn't complain when these discs are used.
[12:12] <linkster> MenZa: can you see it in Places > Computer?
[12:13] <soundray> Guitrokr: it doesn't mean you would lose anything
[12:13] <deCon> n00buntu, probably, what kind of card?
[12:13] <BobSoft> velko, Only from the hard disk.
[12:13] <BFTD> davisc: yes
[12:13] <TOXIC_> omarion, it works well for U ? can you play games without any problems ? even recent ones ? Half-Life 2 ? Doom3 ?
[12:13] <Guitrokr> i know but i can't risk it
[12:13] <omarion> TOXIC_: it was the same for me, i tried to play BF2 but you know ... i get killed before even seeing the enemy
[12:13] <soundray> Guitrokr: and what do you have a backup for, anyway
[12:13] <MenZa> I can, linkster
[12:13] <velko> BobSoft, :-)
[12:13] <BFTD> davisc: I havea backup of them on my other partition
[12:13] <Smilez> I rebooted the system, with my CRT plugged in, and it loads up 1024x768 as the default. At which point i can plug in my LCD and continue to use the system at 1024x768. If i reboot with the LCD plugged in, it wont go above 800x600
[12:13] <trumpeter2003> Guitrokr: You can't boot linux unless you have grub or lilo, the NTLDR does not currently support, nor will it support, any non-Windows OS installation startups due to the bootloarder not allowing for that code.
[12:13] <Guitrokr> i have a 250gb external, but then i installed linux on a seperate 8gb mini hard drive
[12:13] <n00buntu> decon, it is an old linksys wireless B pcmcia card.
[12:13] <Och4> TOXIC_,  .....ummmm, nothing happen.
[12:13] <linkster> MenZA:right-click and choose properties?
[12:13] <shawnr34> Can i user gnome-rdp to remote into other linux boxes?
[12:13] <kane77> how can i find whats using my usb drive?
[12:13] <BobSoft> velko, BTW my HDD has: Main, Universe, Multiverse and Updates.
[12:13] <MenZa> linkster: location?
[12:13] <deCon> Smilez, you need to point your xorg.conf file to the settings of screen resolution and refresh rates specific for your monitor
[12:14] <MenZa> Location: computer:///
[12:14] <MenZa> :/
[12:14] <Smilez> Slart, The only thing I see is "Restricted drivers manager"
[12:14] <BobSoft> velko, The whole shebang.
[12:14] <deCon> !resolution > Smilez
[12:14] <soundray> trumpeter2003: I have information that contradicts that. Do you have a source?
[12:14] <TOXIC_> Och4, then composite is not disabled... good... it makes you have beryl work !
[12:14] <Smilez> deCon: but the resolutions in xorg are correct, as well as the depth
[12:14] <trumpeter2003> Guitrokr: Your best bet would be to use grub for windows and allow it to rewrite the grub boot params to point to your windows installation as the root drive for grub to be found instead of the external
[12:14] <Slart> Smilez: mm.. that little utility must have come from the nvidia drivers I installed then.. to bad they didn't include it in the ubuntu default version
[12:14] <Smilez> yet in gnome, i can only choose 800x600
[12:14] <BobSoft> velko, Does 'reprepro' do essentially what 'debmirror' does?
[12:14] <trumpeter2003> oh well, guess he doesn't want the solution to his problem ...
[12:15] <deCon> Smilez, and how about your refresh rates? what does the section on monitor say about those two horizontal sync and vertical refresh i believe is what they are
[12:15] <Smilez> I don't think its a driver issue
[12:15] <alekz-> hi i have a problem, since y pluged my printer my system crashed, so i rebooted and i just can't join by graphical mode because it just get freeze, anyone can help?
[12:15] <Smilez> it only lets me choose 50Hz
[12:15] <kane77> how can i find whats using my usb drive, I cannot unmount it (because it's busy)?
[12:15] <Och4> TOXIC_,  should i restart and then try warcraft 3, or just close beryl right now and try warcraft 3?
[12:15] <BobSoft> velko, If you wish to PM me at UbuntuForums my nick there is BobSongs
[12:15] <Smilez> deCon: sorry, the refresh rates are low, and are not what my monitor is capable of
[12:15] <Slart> Smilez: the refresh frequencies are wrong.. it
[12:15] <Wokm4n> Hey how can I join the rizon.org server? I don't see it in the list
[12:15] <deCon> Smilez, right...you need to fix that so that it knows your monitors capabilities, then the other resolutions you have inserted should work fine
[12:15] <TOXIC_> Och4, I don't know how to fix the problem with beryl working, because I never used it (not working with my ati card), but, realy, try tu put ""  composite "disabeled"  "" in your xorg.conf so you can test if beryl is the problem...
[12:15] <Smilez> if the ref rates are wrong, it wont let me change my resolution?
[12:15] <omarion> TOXIC_: too many people have tried wine and cedega and they could play games without problems, that's what i always read on digg :D but it seems that luck doesn't know me
[12:15] <Slart> Smilez: the refresh frequencies are wrong.. it's been that way since edgy... I kind of remember a fix for it.. can't remember exactly what though.. =/
[12:15] <trumpeter2003> soundray: Microsoft only supports non-Windows OSes on Vista due to the nature of how Vista is started in a Unix like mannor. Anytthing prior to Vista will not allow you to boot into a non-Windows executable environment
[12:15] <MenZa> linkster: Any clue?
[12:15] <Smilez> alright, gimme a second to edit this
[12:16] <DarknessSpace> hey i lost my other xchat server window..im still connected but the window is hidden..
[12:16] <deCon> Smilez, have you visited the Ubuntu screen resolutions help page?
[12:16] <TOXIC_> Och4, wait... first, get aiglx disabled..
[12:16] <soundray> trumpeter2003: hmm, that was rude of him
[12:16] <deCon> !resolution
[12:16] <DarknessSpace> how do i get it back
[12:16] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:16] <hashr> i am looking for some help compiliing a kernel module for ubuntu.  its for a promise raid card.  i have the source.  i was looking for some direction on what to do to compile it and add it to the system properly
[12:16] <Smilez> deCon: no sir, and at 800x600 the text in here scrolls by rather quickly
[12:16] <DarknessSpace> hey i lost my other xchat server window..im still connected but the window is hidden..
[12:16] <TOXIC_> omarion, I know that ! its never working with me !
[12:16] <soundray> trumpeter2003: guitrokr didn't mention Vista, I think he said XP
[12:16] <Och4> TOXIC_,  how do i disable aigxl and then do the composite disable?
[12:16] <MenZa> Smilez: strangely, it does so on 1600x1200 aswell ;p
[12:16] <trumpeter2003> soundray: I know, because grub for windows works nicely
[12:16] <bluesign> anyone familiar with 10.20.15.xx network range?
[12:16] <deCon> Smilez, let me find it for you..it should fix the problem from what i know
[12:16] <Smilez> ahh
[12:16] <Smilez> deCon: I think i have a link in a message from the bot
[12:16] <DarknessSpace> hey i lost my other xchat server window..im still connected but the window is hidden..
[12:17] <TOXIC_> omarion, I just give it up with games and all the stuff... its not really needed...
[12:17] <Slart> hashr: the usual way is to do ./configure first.. then "make" and last "sudo make install".. but not all installs do it this way
[12:17] <velko> BobSoft, where to find the forums? are they interactive like irc?
[12:17] <deCon> Smilez, exactly
[12:17] <velko> BobSoft, or just normal forums?
[12:17] <soundray> trumpeter2003: http://jaeger.morpheus.net/linux/ntldr.php says something different about loading Linux with NTLDR
[12:17] <Smilez> alright, ill be back
[12:17] <Smilez> thanks for the help
[12:17] <TOXIC_> Och4, wait, we will talk in private
[12:17] <hashr> Slart: ok i was just wondering if i had to do the module assist and stuff tlike that
[12:17] <rankin_> Hi I work for Ubuntu artwork department. im looking for there IRC channel
[12:17] <SpaceBassLaptop> anyone done software raid under feisty?
[12:17] <rankin_> help
[12:17] <SpaceBassLaptop> I'm having a bit of a raid emergency
[12:17] <hashr> i am a long itme slakcware user
[12:17] <deCon> Smilez, let me know how it goes...it should only take a couple minutes...you only have to do one step
[12:17] <BobSoft> velko, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[12:17] <linkster> projector + ATI + fglrx anyone?
[12:17] <hashr> i dont know the internals on the ubuntu
[12:17] <BobSoft> velko, Regular forums.
[12:17] <Och4> TOXIC_,  message me in private please
[12:17] <Slart> hashr: it's different from case to case... some stuff do that for you in the "sudo make install" phase
[12:17] <deCon> Smilez, two steps....run that autoconfig that will tell you your rates in terminal, and then insert their values in xorg.conf
[12:17] <BobSoft> velko, Fairly basic. I've put in a few tutorials so far.
[12:18] <omarion> TOXIC_: yeah me too, but im still reporting bugs and complaining in the forums, hope that's going to be fixed soon
[12:18] <velko> BobSoft, yeah. if you are not registered you can meet me in #velko :-)
[12:18] <deCon> !resolutions > deCon
[12:18] <kane77> how can i find whats using my usb drive? I cannot unmount it (because it's busy) and I realy want to go to sleep :)
[12:18] <deCon> !resolution > deCon
[12:18] <hashr> wow how does a server install of ubuntu not have make installed by default
[12:18] <MenZa> kane77: umount -f
[12:18] <haru> is there a way to enable voice chat and file rtansfer for gtalk in linux?
[12:18] <MenZa> kane77: it forces it to unmount
[12:18] <Slart> kane77: lsof might be helpful.. lsof | grep -i /media/usb or something like that
[12:18] <BobSoft> velko, I'm fairly new to IRC. But I believe I'm registered and we can chat outside this channel.
[12:18] <ffm> HOW I should go about connecting to a XDMCP enabled computer from a M$ Windows Box?
[12:18] <ffm> HOW I should go about connecting to a XDMCP enabled computer from a M$ Windows Box?
[12:18] <DarknessSpace> hey i lost my other xchat server window..im still connected but the window is hidden.. this happend quite a few times
[12:18] <Slart> !patience | ffm
[12:18] <ubotu> ffm: The people here are volunteers, your attitude may determine how fast you are helped.  Not everyone is available all the time, likewise not every answer is available instantly. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:18] <TOXIC_> omarion, dont stop hoping... but... the chance is realy small they get it to work !
[12:19] <deCon> Smilez, to quicken it, try typing this in console....
[12:19] <soundray> trumpeter2003: you just need to put a Linux-loading bootsector into a file and reference that file from boot.ini
[12:19] <kane77> Slart, MenZa thx
[12:19] <sigg> haru: I know gaim supports file transfer for gtalk
[12:19] <kane77> MenZa, is -f safe to do?
[12:19] <MenZa> kane77: :)
[12:19] <omarion> TOXIC_: nothing is impossible :P
[12:19] <TOXIC_> omarion, even if you manage it, in 2-3 month, a new game will show up, and they'll need another 3 years to get it working...
[12:19] <danohuiginn> TOXIC_: just installed the old edgy php4, and it seems to be working fine :) Thanks for your help
[12:19] <soundray> trumpeter2003: having said that, I only tried that once a long time ago
[12:19] <deCon> ffm, have you tried the boot splash screen and clicking on the "options" in the bottom left corner to connect via XMDCP
[12:19] <MenZa> kane77: umm, I wouldn't do it if you don't have backup of the most important stuff on your drive
[12:19] <MenZa> but I would assume so
[12:19] <malverian> Are there any webcams that work particularly well w/ Ubuntu feisty?
[12:19] <sigg> haru: but Im not sure about voice talking on gaim
[12:19] <haru> sigg, any plugins?
[12:20] <haru> sigg, and ermm version?
[12:20] <kane77> Slart, the damn beagle started indexing my files :)
[12:20] <malverian> I'm looking to purchase one, but I'm not sure which works best out of the box.
[12:20] <omarion> TOXIC_: true, true
[12:20] <IdleOne> !webcam | malverian
[12:20] <hashr> damn this is way to hard in ubuntu
[12:20] <Slart> malverian: there are lots of webcams that don't work.. =)
[12:20] <TOXIC_> danohuiginn, realy ? was I helping you ?
[12:20] <ubotu> malverian: Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:20] <ffm> deCon: WinXP box.
[12:20] <DarknessSpace> can any1 read this?
[12:20] <hashr> i am missing everything
[12:20] <deCon> for games, WINE does a pretty good job now....but not all games, thats why they have that company that specializes in the emulation
[12:20] <Slart> kane77: ahh.. common problem =)
[12:20] <hashr> slackware comes with everything
[12:20] <MenZa> malverian: I had no problems with my Logitech QuickCam Messenger on Edgy, out of the box
[12:20] <malverian> IdleOne, Thanks
[12:20] <ffm> hashr: Yes, we can here you.
[12:20] <deCon> ffm, FROM or TO your xp box/
[12:20] <IdleOne> DarknessSpace, yes
[12:20] <DarknessSpace> ok
[12:20] <TOXIC_> Och4, why dont you answer in private ?
[12:20] <soundray> malverian: the best choice is an IP camera, if you can spare the cash
[12:20] <BrokenSegue> my computer windows lists my windows partition twice (but one of them fails to work at all), where do i go to remove one?
[12:20] <Slart> malverian: I've been looking at some lists.. I'll see if I find the urls again.. hang on
[12:20] <ffm> deCon: FROM XP, to ubuntu
[12:20] <deCon> hashr, you'll figure it out
[12:20] <Shure> */quit
[12:20] <MenZa> So, can anyone tell me how I change the mount point of a drive, when I know the current one? There is nothing in /etc/fstab I can use
[12:20] <soundray> malverian: Axis makes some good ones, and they run Linux internally
[12:20] <deCon> ffm, no idea...thats an XP question. You may want to try google
[12:20] <IdleOne> DarknessSpace, try asking in #xchat they should be able to help
[12:20] <danohuiginn> TOXIC_: well, mainly grumbling about feisty;) but thanks for paying attention, anyway
[12:21] <malverian> soundray, Hmm.. neat.
[12:21] <ffm> kk
[12:21] <DarknessSpace> thanks
[12:21] <Slart> MenZa: can you paste your fstab so we can take a look? it's got to be there =)
[12:21] <MenZa> Slart: sure
[12:21] <MenZa> Give me a second
[12:21] <deCon> !pastebin > MenZa
[12:21] <TOXIC_> omarion, in a few years, the games will need a special graphic card, and a new card for each game, so i guess it will never be developped for linux...
[12:21] <MenZa> Yeah, I have my pastebin of choice
[12:21] <sigg> is there a way to see processes in ubuntu like you can with task manager in XP
[12:21] <deCon> k, just making sure :D
[12:21] <soundray> malverian: something else that works better than any cheap webcam is an old camcorder attached via a TV card with a bt878 or similar chipset
[12:22] <deCon> sigg, try htop
[12:22] <Och4> TOXIC_,  i don't see a private message from you.  i sent you a private message.
[12:22] <alekz-> hi i have a problem, since y pluged my printer my system crashed, so i rebooted and i just can't join by graphical mode because it just get freeze, anyone can help??
[12:22] <malverian> soundray, Yeah.. this is for my girlfriend's laptop.
[12:22] <omarion> TOXIC_: really? where were u read that?
[12:22] <sigg> thanks decon
[12:22] <kahrytan> im back. Router got unplugged
[12:22] <TOXIC_> danohuiginn, sorry, but its true that the "stable" version of ubuntu isn't realy stable...so I keep it on TLS till all the problems are solved... ;)
[12:22] <deCon> sigg, sudo aptitude install htop ...its kind of graphical and customizable, but it doesn't tell you the keyboard shortcuts, so try googling them...i'm currently figuring it out myself
[12:22] <malverian> I just moved out to CA and she wants us to be able to see each other until she moves out. I won't be there to set it up for her which is why I say "out of the box"
[12:23] <deCon> sigg, there is also other commands to check different things such as memory and individual runnings
[12:23] <malverian> This supported hardware list looks like a good start though.
[12:23] <razzorz> who has a spare moment...
[12:23] <MenZa> Slart: http://pastebin.ca/458485
[12:23] <hashr> where are the linux headers in ubuntu?
[12:23] <hashr> do you have to install them
[12:23] <hashr> make cant find em and either can i
[12:23] <MenZa> hashr: they are in the repositories
[12:23] <deCon> sigg, furthermore, you can add a gadget thing to your panel on top called "system monitor", if your afraid of the CLI version
[12:23] <soundray> malverian: one way is to take the laptop to a shop that will let you test their cameras there and then
[12:23] <Och4> TOXIC_,  i private message you but no reply.  did you get it?
[12:23] <Slart> malverian: didn't find those webpages.. but I bought a Logitech Ultra Vision webcam.. and it barely works.. I'd not recommend it
[12:23] <MenZa> apt-cache search
[12:23] <hashr> MenZa: where are the repos?
[12:23] <hashr> apt-cache serach?
[12:23] <MenZa> hashr: err, repositories, in apt-get
[12:23] <Slart> MenZa: what drive do you want to change?
[12:24] <hashr> what command shows me all the stuff avail to apt-get
[12:24] <malverian> soundray, Hmm.. maybe Fry's would allow that.
[12:24] <hashr> i am not used to this package thing
[12:24] <soundray> malverian: another is to order a few from a vendor with a friendly return policy and try them all out
[12:24] <MenZa> hashr: I think it's linux-`uname -r`-headers
[12:24] <trumpeter2003> soundray: Like I said, NTLDR does not support loading of anothing non-Windows executable.
[12:24] <deCon> hashr, there isn't really such a thing
[12:24] <hashr> slackware i just compile and g
[12:24] <MenZa> Slart: it's /media/disk now
[12:24] <Slart> hashr: apt-cache search thepackagenameyouwanttolookfor   .. or use synaptic
[12:24] <dooglus> hashr: apt-cache search will search them for a keyword
[12:24] <deCon> hashr, synaptic is the closest and you have to navigate that
[12:24] <TOXIC_> omarion, I didn't read it, i just know that germany have manage to do real-pictures in real-time (they simulate every photon...) so it'll be soon used in the games, and each game companyt will develop its own code, and no standard exists, so they will work with ati or nvidia, and you'll need an ati card for game A B and C, and a nvidia for game D E and F ... so it will be...
[12:24] <MenZa> Slart: See anything useful in there?
[12:24] <dooglus> hashr: run "apt-cache search ." to list them all
[12:25] <MenZa> It's a 150gb NTFS drive
[12:25] <TOXIC_> Och4, i dont see anything from you....
[12:25] <soundray> trumpeter2003: that's not accurate, though. If you can chainload a different mbr as an image, that image is strictly "non-Windows executable".
[12:25] <Slart> MenZa: well. what do you know.. it wasn't there =).... is it some kind of usb drive?
[12:25] <N3rg4r> how do i undo a modprobe ndiswrapper?
[12:25] <deCon> hashr, try Ubuntuguide.org for a pretty good idea of whats out there...also, lifehacker.com has some ubuntu apps and tweak recommends
[12:25] <MenZa> Slart: It is a USB-disk
[12:25] <MenZa> Slart: well, 3.5" HDD in a USB enclosure
[12:25] <TOXIC_> lets join #OchTOXIC, we'll be alone !
[12:25] <hashr> i want the linux headers in the include dir so i can compile this damn module
[12:25] <hashr> LOL
[12:25] <hashr> damn ubuntu comes so bare when installed
[12:25] <Slart> MenZa: hmm.. there are rules for where those get mounted.. hang on.. got to check where those files are
[12:25] <MenZa> thanks Slart
[12:25] <Och4> TOXIC_,  try messaging me in private please
[12:26] <LjL> hashr: eh?! it contains a full office suite, and it's in excess of 2gig of installed stuff
[12:26] <N3rg4r> how do i undo a modprobe ndiswrapper?
[12:26] <razzorz> trying to install my ati drivers and on the Read me its saying i need  XFree86-Mesa-libGL,libstdc++,libgcc,XFree86-libs,fontconfig,expat,freetype,zlib,gcc....i don't see them in my pakages
[12:26] <harry_> is there some sort of list of hardware that works well/does not work well with ubuntu?
[12:26] <deCon> can anyone help me resolve some firefox video plugin issues?
[12:26] <hashr> server install?
[12:26] <sylpheedClaws> modprobe -r ndiswrapper
[12:26] <N3rg4r> thanx
[12:26] <hashr> mine only has 600 MB of stuff installed
[12:26] <trumpeter2003> soundray: When you use a Linux-loading bootsector, you are using a linux bootloader, which in turn is loading linux, not NTLDR directly, which is what grub does, but does it silently. Meaning it will bypass the NTLDR boot.ini configuration if it sees a 0 timeout, or 1 image to boot from, in which case it fires the command NTLDR does back to that 1 line from boot.ini which starts Windows.
[12:26] <hashr> says on df -Th
[12:26] <sylpheedClaws> yw
[12:26] <The_PHP_Jedi> anyone used Internet DJ Console?
[12:26] <harry_> or database or something?
[12:26] <bbrock> deCon, what is a root password?
[12:26] <deCon> harry_, linux has tons of open-source software taht works, generally for windows applications, some work, some do not...but only under the linux software WINE.
[12:26] <trumpeter2003> soundray: If you have more than 0 seconds of timeout, or have more than one line in the boot.ini file, it hands off the control to NTLDR.
[12:26] <MenZa> !root | bbrock
[12:27] <ubotu> bbrock: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:27] <razzorz> can some one throw me a bone here
[12:27] <deCon> bbrock, it is your login password
[12:27] <sylpheedClaws> The_PHP_Jedi: is it any good? and I mean REALLY good
[12:27] <bbrock> deCon, i'm trying to install SunJava, and it won't work
[12:27] <TOXIC_> Och4, let us join #ochtoxic it'll be fine !
[12:27] <sylpheedClaws> I mean better than Audacity
[12:27] <TOXIC_> just type /join #othtoxic in IRC
[12:27] <The_PHP_Jedi> sylpheedClaws, I haven't been able to run it.
[12:27] <Slart> MenZa: check in /etc/udev/rules.d   there are rules for lots of stuff...see if anything interesting is there
[12:27] <sylpheedClaws> ah
[12:27] <deCon> bbrock, there are two users in ubuntu to protect you, one that is your "user" account for running regular things, and a "superuser" or administrative account to edit configurations and main components
[12:27] <The_PHP_Jedi> says JACK server in use
[12:27] <trumpeter2003> soundray: Hence the reason that grub is better than lilo when it comes to dual booting a box with Windows and anything else.
[12:27] <MenZa> Slart: sure, fanks :)
[12:27] <harry_> deCon: I mean the actual hardeware, i.e. if I buy component X, will it have problems
[12:27] <razzorz> anyone?
[12:27] <sylpheedClaws> then you're running something that's using jackd
[12:28] <MenZa> oh my, Slart
[12:28] <trumpeter2003> soundray: Lilo just hands all the decision making off to the NTLDR boot-loader to let it have at it
[12:28] <deCon> bbrock, linux terminal is very case sensitive, make sure the package is named what it is, and all the letters are in proper case
[12:28] <rankin_> is this the ubuntu-art channel
[12:28] <Slart> MenZa: there are lots of stuff there.. I'm looking through it too
[12:28] <MenZa> Slart: cheers
[12:28] <The_PHP_Jedi> anyone used Internet DJ Console? says JACK server in use
[12:29] <soundray> trumpeter2003: I'm talking about a different situation, though, where neither grub nor lilo nor any other Linux loader ever goes into action, unless the user actively chooses it from the NTLDR menu. But I guess we're boring the other 1238 users, so let's just agree to disagree and leave it there.
[12:29] <mwe> deCon: that would be lower case for packages ;)
[12:29] <deCon> harry_, sometimes, but its fairly rare...depending on which company makes it, some of them make it difficult to use. In general, peripherals are the only issue, and i would google compatibility before buying it, or return it if it doesn't work
[12:29] <redt0nia> i try to upgrade to to 704 and i get a 404 error for beryl
[12:29] <deCon> harry_, anything specific?
[12:29] <rankin_> is this the ubuntu-art channel
[12:29] <rankin_> is this the ubuntu-art channel
[12:29] <rankin_> is this the ubuntu-art channel
[12:29] <rankin_> is this the ubuntu-art channel
[12:29] <rankin_> is this the ubuntu-art channel
[12:29] <rankin_> is this the ubuntu-art channel
[12:29] <The_PHP_Jedi> ..
[12:29] <The_PHP_Jedi> no.
[12:29] <deCon> mwe, :D thanks...i'm teaching what i can
[12:29] <rankin_> god dam finally an answer
[12:29] <xyz-abc> What are the differences between smbfs and smbclient?
[12:29] <Slart> MenZa: I think 60-symlinks.rules has some stuff
[12:29] <deCon> mwe, generally only have capitals for specific document names?
[12:29] <deCon> rankin_, no
[12:29] <Jaymac> freeza, if you're there... reinstalling nvidia-glx worked a treat
[12:29] <MenZa> hmm
[12:30] <asd> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllloooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[12:30] <MenZa> Slart: 64-persistent-storage.rules too
[12:30] <razzorz> trying to install my ati drivers and on the Read me its saying i need  XFree86-Mesa-libGL,libstdc++,libgcc,XFree86-libs,fontconfig,expat,freetype,zlib,gcc....i don't see them in my pakages
[12:30] <MenZa> my bad
[12:30] <MenZa> 65
[12:30] <mwe> deCon: well a few binaries have caps as well. but not the package names
[12:30] <MenZa> razzorz: sudo apt-get update ?
[12:30] <Slart> MenZa: I don't even have a 64-persistent-storage.rules.. I guess this stuff is created as needed or something
[12:30] <redt0nia> will they fix the error or is there a workaround?
[12:30] <soundray> xyz-abc: smbfs is a filesystem module. smbclient is a client for interrogating smb/cifs servers
[12:30] <MenZa> Slart: 65-persistent-storage.rules
[12:31] <MenZa> Typo
[12:31] <The_PHP_Jedi> anyone used Internet DJ Console? says JACK server in use
[12:31] <Slart> MenZa: ah.. sorry.. didn't see it at first.. yea.. that's a loooong file
[12:31] <MenZa> Insanely long
[12:31] <trumpeter2003> razzorz: Are you trying to install fglrx or the open source drivers?
[12:31] <xyz-abc> soundray: I've used Samba on many occasion, but I've always been confused as to which one I really need...
[12:31] <harry_> deCon: no, not really. btw, is there some utility that will encrypt my filesystem ( but not a Windoze partition )
[12:31] <xyz-abc> soundray: when do I need smbfs, smbclient, or a "samba server"..?
[12:31] <redt0nia> i dont really want beryl anyway
[12:31] <soundray> xyz-abc: you need samba on a server, smbfs (and possibly smbclient) on a client.
[12:32] <whtet> how can i write a bash loop script from grep output (list)
[12:32] <whtet> for variables in "...|grep ...
[12:32] <whtet> do
[12:32] <whtet> 	excute variables
[12:32] <whtet> done
[12:32] <razzorz> Trumperter: ya the driver i have here that is not loading like last time
[12:32] <MenZa> Slart: hmm
[12:32] <MenZa> Slart: this is some complicated stuff
[12:32] <whtet> that one is not correct
[12:32] <Slart> MenZa: I never said it was easy )=
[12:32] <soundray> xyz-abc: the server is (in this case) where the files are. The client is the machine where you want to use those files.
[12:32] <MenZa> Slart: heh
[12:32] <trumpeter2003> whtet: Ask in #bash
[12:32] <MenZa> I'll just ignore it
[12:32] <MenZa> It's not that much of an issue.
[12:32] <mwe> whtet: generally make a list first
[12:32] <hashr> where are the modversions.h asm/io.h ... where are these files?
[12:32] <xyz-abc> soundray: I want to share files on a Lan between an Ubuntu and an XP pc
[12:32] <hashr> so lost
[12:32] <razzorz> Trumper:  it just hangs.. then i seen that telling me i need all that b4 the driver will load
[12:33] <soundray> xyz-abc: both ways?
[12:33] <xyz-abc> yes
[12:33] <Slart> MenZa: you could try adding it to fstab.. perhaps it will bypass those general rules
[12:33] <trumpeter2003> razzorz: Are you trying to install fglrx or the open source drivers?
[12:33] <xyz-abc> soundray: I've been able to have that working
[12:33] <razzorz> yes
[12:33] <deCon> harry_, try Ubuntuguide.org for that. I'm not sure, though I know linux is capable of incredible security
[12:33] <compilerwriter> What is with the display monitor module?
[12:33] <trumpeter2003> razzorz: Which one?
[12:33] <whtet> mwe: ....yeah..so i need to create a list file first then... thx!!!
[12:33] <soundray> xyz-abc: you need ton install both samba and smbfs on Ubuntu then.
[12:33] <xyz-abc> soundray: I want to have them both on the same workgroup
[12:33] <The_PHP_Jedi> anyone used Internet DJ Console? says JACK server in use.... I've disabled other sound software
[12:33] <razzorz> when you mean witch one what?
[12:33] <xyz-abc> soundray: smbfs + smbclient, is that what you mean?
[12:33] <redt0nia> i try to upgrade to to 704 and i get a 404 error for beryl
[12:33] <razzorz> i have a ati all in wonder 9800 hdtv
[12:33] <mwe> whtet: you can do without but that's the general approach I think
[12:34] <trumpeter2003> razzorz: Which of these two are you trying to install, fglrx (ATi's Closed Source driver) or the open source ATi drivers?
[12:34] <emet> hey I would like to fix bug #1 in ubuntu how do I do it?
[12:34] <soundray> xyz-abc: no, I meant what I said. 'sudo apt-get install smbfs samba'
[12:34] <whtet> mwe: ok, thx. i just start writing code so i still need to research what you just advice, anyway thx
[12:34] <The_PHP_Jedi> anyone used Internet DJ Console? says JACK server in use.... I've disabled other sound software. Any ideas why?
[12:34] <razzorz> Trumperter: forgive me here.. how about you tell me what is the easiest and the best way to do it
[12:35] <razzorz> i trying to get my beryl running again
[12:35] <soundray> !samba > xyz-abc, please read the links in the private message that ubotu has sent.
[12:35] <razzorz> after the distro upgrade
[12:35] <xyz-abc> soundray: I just want to for once understand it all ;)
[12:35] <redt0nia> the beryl servers 404
[12:35] <mwe> whtet: for i in $(ls |grep mp3); do ...; done. but it gets ugly
[12:35] <_Neil> hmmm
[12:35] <_Neil> sometimes, rhythmbox just disappears. Anyone know why this could be, or how to diagnose the problem?
[12:35] <The_PHP_Jedi> anyone used Internet DJ Console? says JACK server in use.... I've disabled other sound software. Any ideas why?
[12:35] <soundray> xyz-abc: use those links as a starting point please. Come back when you have specific questions.
[12:36] <Rynoo> is there a Thunderbird 2 ubuntu package?
[12:36] <Jump86> is it a bad idea to leave the beryl snow plugin running 24/7?
[12:36] <xyz-abc> soundray: ok, thanks
[12:36] <compilerwriter> Has anyone got a clue how to fix the monitor and display module?
[12:36] <razzorz> trumperter: sorry for the NEWBI issue here...
[12:36] <The_PHP_Jedi> anyone used Internet DJ Console? says JACK server in use.... I've disabled other sound software. Any ideas why?
[12:36] <redt0nia> im a noob too
[12:36] <razzorz> Ya well i did this once allready
[12:36] <emet> bug #1
[12:36] <razzorz> no issues
[12:36] <razzorz> now i get this
[12:37] <trumpeter2003> razzorz: You can try this method, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[12:37] <jrib> Jump86: the penguins might get cold (I can't think of any *real* reason)
[12:37] <LaszloKv> Would someone be able to help me with setting up a shared folder with samba?  I think I almost have it, but I keep getting this one error message.
[12:37] <whtet> mwe: ok, i will give that a try as well
[12:37] <The_PHP_Jedi> anyone used Internet DJ Console? says JACK server in use.... I've disabled other sound software. Any ideas why? *please some help*
[12:37] <razzorz> ty
[12:37] <redt0nia> will an install from an ISO wipe everything?
[12:37] <LaszloKv> I think it might have to do with the permissions given the drive it's on.
[12:37] <razzorz> trumperter
[12:37] <compilerwriter> !attitude | the_php_jedi
[12:37] <vadvad> hello, i have a problem with amule. can't see search results or servers..everything is blank...idea someone?
[12:37] <magnetron> LaszloKv: WHAT error message
[12:38] <soundray> redt0nia: not unless you tell it to
[12:38] <ubotu> the_php_jedi: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:38] <razzorz> will that work with the new 7.4?
[12:38] <redt0nia> a 704 iso?
[12:38] <alekz> hi when ubuntu is loaded my gdm just get freeze any idea?
[12:38] <LaszloKv> magnetron: "smbd/service.c:make_connection_snum(920)
[12:38] <LaszloKv>   '/media/BUSLINK_/music' does not exist or permission denied when connecting to [music]  Error was Permission denied"
[12:38] <redt0nia> i just want to upgrade not re-install
[12:38] <soundray> redt0nia: my answer applies to all ubuntu versions
[12:38] <vadvad> hello, i have a problem with amule. can't see search results or servers..everything is blank...idea someone?
[12:38] <velko> The_PHP_Jedi, you may try to find out what keeps your card busy with "sudo lsof | grep snd"
[12:39] <The_PHP_Jedi> thx velko
[12:39] <trumpeter2003> razzorz: Yes, that is how I installed my fglrx drivers for my ATi X1950XTX and it works just fine.
[12:39] <_Neil> sometimes, rhythmbox just disappears. Anyone know why this could be, or how to diagnose the problem?
[12:39] <redt0nia> ok cool soundray  thankyou :)
[12:39] <razzorz> Ok thank you
[12:39] <razzorz> are you running beryl?
[12:39] <soundray> redt0nia: why do you want an iso when all you want to do is upgrade?
[12:39] <tonyyarusso> Rynoo: Not yet.  It should be in gutsy.
[12:39] <jrib> _Neil: try running it from a terminal and look for output when it closes
[12:39] <trumpeter2003> razzorz: Yes, with XGL
[12:39] <LaszloKv> magnetron: That's from the samba log.
[12:39] <redt0nia> the upgrade fails
[12:39] <razzorz> Great thats what i am looking for
[12:39] <vadvad> hello, i have a problem with amule. can't see search results or servers..everything is blank...idea someone?
[12:39] <_Neil> jrib ty
[12:39] <razzorz> xgl
[12:39] <Rynoo> tonyyarusso: thats 6 months away.
[12:39] <redt0nia> when i use the update mgr
[12:39] <razzorz> worked great for me
[12:40] <redt0nia> i have the latest too
[12:40] <soundray> redt0nia: have you installed the ubuntu-desktop package?
[12:40] <tonyyarusso> Rynoo: Yep.  You can install from the tb site for now; the basic process is outlined (for a different version though) at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThunderbirdNewVersion
[12:40] <redt0nia> not sure wat that is
[12:40] <trumpeter2003> razzorz: I used this guys installation method to get XGL + Beryl working: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=399913
[12:40] <WaxyFresh> anyone here know if its possible to set up FVWM-crystal on fiesty without compiling it?
[12:40] <vadvad> hello, i have a problem with amule. can't see search results or servers..everything is blank...idea someone?
[12:41] <Dan_> Hey.
[12:41] <magnetron> LaszloKv: hmm hmm can't help you there. make sure though that you did a smb-add-user
[12:41] <Dan_> Can I say something?
[12:41] <soundray> redt0nia: run 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop', then try upgrading with the update-manager again
[12:41] <Grape_Juice> Wouldn't be able to hear it on IRC...
[12:41] <trumpeter2003> razzorz: If your card supports Dual-Link DVI, the install method I gave you for fglrx, will work on any monitor up to a resolution size of 2560x1600
[12:41] <LaszloKv> magnetron: I have it set up to allow guests.
[12:41] <Dan_> Hahah.
[12:41] <vadvad> hello, i have a problem with amule. can't see search results or servers..everything is blank...idea someone?
[12:41] <trumpeter2003> razzorz: With no problems at all.
[12:41] <Dan_> Actually just a quick question
[12:42] <razzorz> ok i will do that now thank you
[12:42] <soundray> !upgrade > redt0nia, also read ubotu's private message please
[12:42] <velko> vadvad, are you connected to a server?
[12:42] <Grape_Juice> Questions are good for learning. :)
[12:42] <magnetron> LaszloKv, ask the channel. i'm going to bed now
[12:42] <alekz> hi when ubuntu is loaded my gdm just get freeze any idea??
[12:42] <LaszloKv> magnetron: Kay, thanks for trying.
[12:42] <vadvad> velko: yep it's some kind of a graphic problem...
[12:42] <Dan_> Does the Linksys wireless 4.1 card work with the new version of Linux?
[12:43] <redt0nia> ive been there i think
[12:43] <Dan_> A lot of people used to complain about that one
[12:43] <soundray> alekz: do you get a system freeze when you boot in recovery mode?
[12:43] <velko> vadvad, ok. sorry i don't know the answer. it was just a shot in the dark
[12:43] <LaszloKv> Would someone be able to help me with setting up fstab?  I think it's what preventing my samba share from working.
[12:43] <vadvad> velko: ty anyway :)
[12:43] <slvmchn> can someone recommend a file recovery tool? i accidently erased some files i need
[12:43] <alekz> soundray no, im in recovery mode now, i just get freeze on normal boot
[12:43] <tonyyarusso> _Neil: I'd suggest running rhythmbox from the terminal, and inspecting the terminal output  when it closes.  If it makes no sense to you, include that output in a bug report on Launchpad.net.
[12:43] <LaszloKv> My drive is supposed to mount with full permissions, but in mtab the umask is 077.
[12:44] <soundray> redt0nia: if you want to do a fresh install, you should back up all valuable data and your package selections
[12:44] <Dan_> a
[12:44] <_Neil> tonyyarusso: just did it.. Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[12:44] <trumpeter2003> Dan_: What is the exact card model?
[12:44] <vadvad> hello, i have a problem with amule. can't see search results or servers..everything is blank...idea someone?
[12:44] <WaxyFresh> anyone use fvwm?
[12:44] <tonyyarusso> _Neil: anything more than that?
[12:44] <Dan_> linksys wrt54g 4.1
[12:44] <_Neil> tonyyarusso: nope, thats it
[12:44] <tarzeau> WaxyFresh: yeah, at work
[12:44] <comodo> can someone tell me a program for ubuntu that will extract the files out of an iso
[12:44] <The_PHP_Jedi> w00t ubuntu on PS3!
[12:44] <Svish> !linuxmce
[12:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about linuxmce - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:44] <slvmchn> can someone recommend a file recovery tool? i accidently erased some files i need... i found a couple of progams but couldn't compile them properly, and then i couldn't find any in synaptic
[12:44] <tarzeau> comodo: loop back mount it?
[12:44] <Svish> !mythtv
[12:44] <ubotu> MythTV is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV
[12:44] <soundray> alekz: look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log (the end of the file). There may be an error message if the problem was graphics related.
[12:45] <comodo> how do you do that
[12:45] <soundray> alekz: also look at /var/log/syslog
[12:45] <slvmchn> comodo: you can mount it
[12:45] <redt0nia> i just want to upgrade
[12:45] <tarzeau> slvmchn: foremost?
[12:45] <Svish> does anyone here have any experience with LinuxMCE?
[12:45] <slvmchn> tarzeau, is that in synaptic?
[12:45] <Svish> does it work with ubuntu feisty?
[12:45] <_Neil> tonyyarusso: Where will I find the core dump, assuming I should include it with a bug report?
[12:45] <alekz> ok soundray  let me check the logs =)
[12:45] <tarzeau> comodo: mount -o loop the.iso /mntpoint
[12:45] <tarzeau> slvmchn: no idea, it's in debian apt-get
[12:45] <matgeek> Hi HTere!
[12:45] <tonyyarusso> _Neil: I'm told the apport-retrace tool should help
[12:45] <matgeek> How do you install realplayer instead of helixplayer?
[12:45] <slvmchn> ah, show's up in apt-get tarzeau... i'll give it a try, thanks
[12:45] <WaxyFresh> tarzeau, do you know if theres a way to install it withoiut haveing to compile?
[12:45] <trumpeter2003> Dan_: If you are asking about if the router will support a Linux system over the Linksys system, then you need to look at other projects than Ubuntu. Stuff like DD-WRT or OpenWrt will guide you in the right direction.
[12:46] <Dan_> Alright, thanks.
[12:46] <tarzeau> WaxyFresh: a deb package?
[12:46] <_Neil> tonyyarusso: Any idea how I will use that?
[12:47] <WaxyFresh> tarzeau, ops i meant fvwm-crystall the wiki says it has to be compiled and that scares me
[12:47] <redt0nia> i get this error ---> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/dists/edgy/main-edgy/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[12:47] <Ademan> hey, i've got a fiesty box without internet, and i need to get the network-manager applet onto it, i tried going to packages.ubuntu.com (on this computer) but none of the mirrors seem to work, also, which package is appropriate/will work with xfce?  would network-manager-gnome work?
[12:47] <slvmchn> tarzeau, what do i do with foremost? i run it but don't get what it's supposed to do
[12:47] <redt0nia> then the upgrade fails
[12:47] <tonyyarusso> _Neil: check /var/crash
[12:47] <trumpeter2003> redt0nia: Because that deb source does not currently support edgy anymore
[12:47] <soundray> redt0nia: edit the line that contains this url in /etc/apt/sources.list -- put a # at the beginning, save and retry
[12:48] <tonyyarusso> _Neil: more info on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Backtrace
[12:48] <_Neil> thanks
[12:48] <tex__> hi I'd like to test Ubuntu 7.04 Live CD without installing Ubuntu on my disk. Is it possible to connect to the internet with Ubuntu only with the LiveCD (no install)?
[12:48] <tarzeau> tex__: yes
[12:48] <Ademan> of course
[12:48] <soundray> tex__: yes, it'll work out of the box with wired Ethernet and a DHCP server on the LAN
[12:48] <Ademan> i used to bring my liveCD with me to school so i could have a sane environment to work with :-)
[12:49] <tex__> and wireless (wi-fi)
[12:49] <tex__> ?
[12:49] <Ademan> tex__: depends on hardware, but it should
[12:49] <trumpeter2003> tex__: If you do not have an ATi graphics card, it should work out-of-the-box.
[12:49] <jordo23_> How do you change ownership of a mounted drive in Ubuntu?
[12:49] <soundray> tex__: depends on the chipset. Some, but not nearly all, work out of the box
[12:49] <Moosejaw> anyone else have any wireless nic/router range issues since installing feisty???
[12:49] <jordo23_> chown /media/sdb1 says operation not permitted...
[12:50] <tex__> i have an ati graphic card. Is it related to nework connections?!?
[12:50] <soundray> tex__: no
[12:50] <bruenig> jordo23_, what is the filesystem of sdb1
[12:50] <n00buntu> moosejaw, i had that issue after going 6.10, after going to fiesty i apparently nolonger have a wireless adapter
[12:51] <trumpeter2003> jordo23_: Remount it with options user
[12:51] <redphoenix1> hello i am currently on a debian system but i want to install ubuntu feisty on a usb thumb drive...i followed this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent but i get boot error when i try to boot from it
[12:51] <Malfist> Would anyone know why my FAT32 drive isn't working the way it should in Xubuntu 6.10? It's a 1GB flash but one folder (that I can't delete) has 460GB in it.
[12:51] <bruenig> wow 460 GB flash drive
[12:51] <jordo23_> bruenig: fat32....
[12:51] <Moosejaw> n00buntu what wireless nic u using?
[12:51] <jordo23_> trumpeter2003: in fstab?
[12:51] <MatBoy> Hi Guys ! I'm planning to switch from Debian Etch to (X)(K)Ubuntu and was wondering what the best version is for perfomance. I use XFCE on Etch because KDE was giving me so much CPU usage. I doubt if this will be the same on Kubuntu. Can someone give me some experience ?
[12:52] <Malfist> all the other folders is fine
[12:52] <tex__> as a wireless card I have an Intel Prism 2.5 Wavelan chipset
[12:52] <bruenig> jordo23_, you need to mount it with the permissions you want, else everytime you reboot or unmount it, it will lose the permissions you give it
[12:52] <jordo23_> bruenig: in fstab though?
[12:52] <n00buntu> moosejaw, specifically the WPC11, its a old linksys wireless b pcmcia card
[12:52] <soundray> Malfist: that's a faulty file allocation table. Try running dosfsck on the device (after unmounting)
[12:52] <trumpeter2003> jordo23_: If you wish, you should see an option called defaults, just put a ,user after it, and if it has another option after that, just put another , after user
[12:52] <Moosejaw> get a new card
[12:52] <Moosejaw> hehe
[12:52] <bruenig> jordo23_, yeah
[12:52] <n00buntu> moosejaw, i'm currently bumbleing around ndiswrapper
[12:52] <LaszloKv> Does anyone know why one of my drives is being mounted with a umask of 077 when I set the umask to 000 in fstab??
[12:52] <emet> MatBoy: kubuntu take more resources then xfce/xubuntu
[12:52] <tex__> I had to set $ sudo modprobe -r orinoco_pci
[12:52] <redphoenix1> or should i just run the ubuntu install cd and install to the usb thumb drive?
[12:52] <jordo23_> bruenig: I have fstab open.....what should the entry go as?
[12:52] <Malfist> soundray: Would samba fix it?
[12:52] <tex__> $ sudo modprobe -r hostap_pci
[12:52] <tex__> $ sudo modprobe -r prism2_pci
[12:52] <velko> MatBoy, i don't see performace differences between etch and ubuntu (gnome)
[12:52] <tex__> $ sudo modprobe orinoco_pci
[12:53] <trumpeter2003> LaszloKv: Because umask isn't a valid mount option
[12:53] <emet> MatBoy: but if you have at least 512 MB RAM you should be smooth
[12:53] <soundray> Malfist: no, samba is something entirely different
[12:53] <Malfist> soundray: what would the device name be?
[12:53] <bruenig> jordo23_, make sure it has these options fmask=0111,dmask=000
[12:53] <MatBoy> OK, thanks, so I should be stcuk with XFCE
[12:53] <bruenig> jordo23_, make sure it has these options fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[12:53] <n00buntu> moosejaw, that takes money and isn't nearly as much fun. i'm so new to linux i'm like a blind person stubleing around and breaking stuff
[12:53] <tex__> ubuntu can see the wireless interface but connection doesn't work (Live CD no install yet
[12:53] <MatBoy> emet, I use 2GB and XP in vmware
[12:53] <tex__> )
[12:53] <LaszloKv> trumpeter2003: Why is that?
[12:53] <emet> MatBoy: I would recommend 512 MB or more for K/Ubuntu although the sys requirements is only 192 MB
[12:53] <ahaller> MatBoy: gnome/ubuntu runs quite fast here, too.
[12:53] <Malfist> soundray: how could I find out? It wouldn't be in the fstab
[12:54] <MatBoy> But I have the idea that Xubuntu is more up-to-date than Debian is
[12:54] <jordo23_> bruenig:  /dev/sdb1 /media/sdb1 auto nouser,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0      what it says now....
[12:54] <redt0nia> i dont see that url there
[12:54] <eternaljoy> bruenig: hello :)  u must be here 60+hours every week. You sure have lots of free time
[12:54] <soundray> Malfist: when it's mounted, you can find out with the command 'mount' (on a line by itself). It'll be the last line (if you just plugged the device in), and it's the bit that starts with /dev
[12:54] <trumpeter2003> jordo23_: Change nouser to be user
[12:54] <MatBoy> ahaller, let me try to get a liveCD if there is one
[12:54] <emet> yah xubuntu uses the same base (kernels/services) as Ubuntu does
[12:54] <n00buntu> moosejaw, i just don't understand why it worked fine in 6.06 and got progessively more screwed after upgrading 1st to 6.10 and now to fiesty
[12:54] <emet> as well are repos
[12:54] <emet> just the DE, is different (XFCE)
[12:54] <trumpeter2003> LaszloKv: Not my department, I just know it isn't a valid option
[12:54] <Malfist> soundray: It's U3 so it has two partitions
[12:54] <bruenig> except that xubuntu is garbage
[12:54] <jordo23_> trumpeter2003: just that?
[12:54] <emet> I like xubuntu
[12:54] <soundray> Malfist: what's U3?
[12:54] <LaszloKv> trumpeter2003: Kay, thanks.
[12:54] <Malfist> soundray: Do I only to it to the one?
[12:55] <emet> my friend has it on 2 GB RAM , 512 MB VRAM system with dual core processor
[12:55] <slvmchn> i liked some bits about xubuntu... having a terminal bar in the panel was amazing
[12:55] <emet> he like xfce
[12:55] <slvmchn> can't figure that out in gnome
[12:55] <bruenig> I love xubuntu dapper and xubuntu edgy
[12:55] <Malfist> soundray: A horrible non-free, non-removable portable apps
[12:55] <slvmchn> lol i boot into blackbox sometimes
[12:55] <mrhanky89> Does anyone here have a membership on demonoid.com?
[12:55] <Malfist> soundray: It makes a storage partition and a CD-ROM partition that has the programs
[12:55] <redt0nia> its just a compaq 933mhz p3
[12:55] <jordo23_> bruenig: I changed it to user....what do I restart to the system to put this through?
[12:55] <trumpeter2003> jordo23_: You might want to unmount the drive first, change nouser to user, and then remount with mount /dev/sdb1
[12:56] <soundray> Malfist: U3 formatted the USB disk for you?
[12:56] <trumpeter2003> jordo23_: Not like it matters to unmount first, just type sudo umount /dev/sdb1 && mount /dev/sdb1
[12:56] <Malfist> soundray: Factory settings, and if I change it no warrenty
[12:56] <bruenig> jordo23_, yeah that entry looks foreign to me, they must be using some other default entry for fat32 fstab in feisty
[12:56] <MatBoy> emet, I can not see also why Xubuntu should be garbage
[12:56] <bruenig> I would listen to trumpeter2003
[12:56] <MatBoy> I need performance :)
[12:56] <ahaller> MatBoy: anther option could be to use gnome, but use thunar/xfce4-terminal/mousepad instead of nautilus/gnome-terminal/gedit
[12:56] <emet> it's not
[12:56] <emet> xubuntu is good
[12:57] <soundray> Malfist: that's ridiculous. I'd send it back and ask for a sane, standards-compliant device
[12:57] <Tony_> anyone know if you can purchase ubuntu stock?
[12:57] <emet> I use ubuntu personally
[12:57] <mc44> Tony_: no
[12:57] <bruenig> emet, have you used xubuntu feisty?
[12:57] <MatBoy> ahaller, yeap, tested that with Etch also, gnome is slow by default
[12:57] <emet> but I've used xubuntu and it's quite fast and agile
[12:57] <emet> bruenig: not very long
[12:57] <soundray> Tony_: you can't.  But it is a fast drive, nothing like the FireFly
[12:57] <jordo23_> bruenig trumpeter2003 Thanks....that seemed to have worked.....nice job both of you..
[12:57] <mc44> Tony_: and is incredibly unlikely to ever go public
[12:57] <emet> xubuntu doesn't get enough attention I think
[12:58] <MatBoy> is it strange when I say that I don;t like the up-to-date version of Debian anymore ?
[12:58] <MatBoy> I'm always on testing, but still than
[12:58] <chocobanana> Hi there everybody!
[12:58] <tonyyarusso> Tony_: You could go speculate in #ubuntu-offtopic though if you wish.
[12:58] <Tony_> i want to support to linux and thought stock would be a great way
[12:58] <Smilez> deCon: I'm back... after reinstalling Feisty :D
[12:58] <bruenig> emet, stuff crashing all over the place, even the basic xfce stuff crashing like the keyboard preferences dialog, artifacts, just couldn't use anything
[12:58] <Malfist> soundray: it causes the computer to lock up if I try to unmount the storage partition before the CD partition
[12:58] <chocobanana> can somebody tell me if there's any available kernel optimized for a Pentium-M?
[12:58] <soundray> Malfist: I'd declare my warranty rights in that case. As far as I am concerned, that device is faulty.
[12:58] <deCon> Smilez, why'd you do taht?
[12:58] <redt0nia> i put corel linux on my dads old 450hz  box
[12:58] <trumpeter2003> Tony_: Donations are the way of support in the Open Source environment
[12:58] <whileimhere> How do I upgrade from 6.10 to 7.04
[12:59] <bruenig> emet, I fresh installed and this is what I got the whole time: http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m290/bruenig/artifacts.png
[12:59] <jrib> !upgrade > whileimhere (see the private message from ubotu)
[12:59] <Malfist> soundray: Because of the U3?
[12:59] <Smilez> deCon: For some reason, I lost my title bars, and I couldn't open terminal to run any commands... it would be a white box, and i could type, but i see no text
[12:59] <whileimhere> TY
[12:59] <deCon> Smilez, you dont use beryl do you?
[12:59] <emet> bruenig: LOL trippy
[12:59] <Smilez> deCon: anyway, im back... and its definitely a refresh rates issue... but how can i permanently change it?
[12:59] <Smilez> deCon: not yet sir
[12:59] <soundray> Malfist: because of the whole problem you're describing.
[12:59] <DVS01> im having trouble deciding whether i should use gnumeric or openoffice's spreadsheet app
[12:59] <emet> I think it's cause Xubuntu doesn't get enough testing compared to Ubuntu
[12:59] <ahaller> whileimhere:  type "update-manager -c"
[12:59] <Frem> Is there a way to extract a list of all the packages installed on an existing Ubuntu system by using the livecd?
[12:59] <bruenig> emet, likely
[01:00] <trumpeter2003> haha, I remember breaking beryl to no window decorations :P
[01:00] <Malfist> soundray: It's Memorex they just exist to screw people over.
[01:00] <sn0> Frem you can browse http://packages.ubuntu.com , choose your version then search for the package ubuntu-desktop
[01:00] <Smilez> deCon: I would like to enter my custom refresh rates in a GUI if possible. I feel as if something is probing the monitor and forcing it to use some lame refresh rates
[01:00] <chocobanana> can somebody tell me if there's any available kernel optimized for a Pentium-M?
[01:00] <Malfist> soundray: because it sure as hell isn't real
[01:00] <sn0> it will show you a list of everything installed with the livecd
[01:00] <jrib> Frem: mount the partition and do 'aptitude search ~i'
[01:00] <Smilez> right now, nvidia driver is not loaded
[01:00] <sn0> or replace ubuntu-desktop for kubuntu-desktop for eg
[01:00] <mc44> chocobanana: the generic kernel should be optimised fine for you
[01:00] <locolbd> hello, is there anyway i can restore ubuntu to its default settings
[01:00] <Agrajag> Frem: you'd have to chroot into the existing system and run dpkg --get-selections
[01:00] <Ademan> sn0: any idea if there are any working mirrors?
[01:00] <soundray> Frem: yes. You have to chroot to the installed system and run dpkg --get-selections
[01:00] <jrib> Frem: oops, I skipped a step.  chroot in the middle there :)
[01:00] <chocobanana> mc44: ok, thanks
[01:01] <Frem> sn0: Um, no. I mean, an existing Ubuntu system that's been used for a while an has a lot of non-default packages installed.
[01:01] <emet> chocobanana: you can compile your own kernel if you want to change stuff in it
[01:01] <velko> Frem, listen to jrib. he knows better
[01:01] <chocobanana> emet: nah, that would be too much trouble
[01:01] <deCon> Smilez, try sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange, but first sudo aptitude install xresprobe
[01:01] <Frem> thanks guys
[01:01] <locolbd> !restore
[01:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restore - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:01] <redt0nia> i use ubuntu more than OSX
[01:01] <Malfist> soundray: Thanks for the help, as soon as the terminal finishes updating perl I'll do it
[01:01] <emet> it's not so hard even, but I recommend you use ubuntu for like a few months and learn some console and linux admin b4 you compile kernels
[01:01] <locolbd> hello, is there anyway i can restore ubuntu to its default settings
[01:01] <sn0> well as soundray says Frem you could use dpkg then compare to dpkg output from running off the livecd
[01:01] <sn0> :)
[01:02] <Malfist> soundray: dosfsck?
[01:02] <Agrajag> Frem: you can use dpkg --get-selections > selections.txt to save a text file of the selected packages, then use --set-selections on another system to set the packages you want to install
[01:02] <deCon> Smilez, or if you know your rates from your monitor company... gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:02] <emet> ubuntu's kernel is quite optimized and well tested tho by default
[01:02] <Agrajag> Frem: then you can use aptitude to install the selected packages
[01:02] <soundray> Malfist: yes, it's part of the dosfstools package
[01:02] <bruenig> or apt-get to install them
[01:02] <Malfist> soundray: Is that default or do I need to install it?
[01:02] <Smilez> deCon: I just manually entered the refresh rates
[01:03] <Frem> Agrajag: sweet, thanks
[01:03] <Agrajag> bruenig: whichever
[01:03] <emet> if you want to run ubuntu on a mainframe or on a cell phone or something then it's worth compiling your own kernel :P
[01:03] <soundray> !info dosfstools
[01:03] <ubotu> dosfstools: Utilities to create and check MS-DOS FAT filesystems. In component main, is standard. Version 2.11-2.1ubuntu3 (feisty), package size 52 kB, installed size 144 kB
[01:03] <soundray> Malfist: standard apparently ^^
[01:03] <deCon> Smilez, should work fine from now on...let me knwo
[01:03] <Siph0n> hey, if i have windows xp and ubuntu dapper installed on my desktop, but want to delete the ubuntu partition(s), can i do so without messing up my windows partition? i have the grub bootloader installed if that makes a difference
[01:03] <Smilez> deCon: i have a suspicion however that something is probing the monitor while loading X and thus lowering the rates due to the probe returning bad information
[01:04] <deCon> Smilez, i dont know why that would happen..it probes xorg.conf ..so if you do that properly, it should be fine
[01:04] <Malfist> soundray: what's the command to unmount?
[01:05] <trumpeter2003> Siph0n: You could, but you wouldn't be able to boot into windows without changing the MBR back to NTLDR or use grub for windows and resetup the mbr for it to point to grub on windows instead of linux.
[01:05] <soundray> Siph0n: you can boot the Desktop CD, run gparted, delete the Ubuntu partitions and resize the Windows partition. You will need to recreate the Windows MBR
[01:05] <redt0nia> umount
[01:05] <soundray> Malfist: umount
[01:05] <trumpeter2003> soundray: I win :P
[01:05] <Smilez> deCon: OK. I just installed xresprobe, but ddcprobe returned nothing about my range. Prior to that I added my rates to Xorg.conf. I'm now going to attempt to utilize the Nvidia driver, and restart
[01:05] <ikonia> trumpeter2003: ntldr does not go on the boot sector
[01:05] <velko> Siph0n, yes. but don't forget to run "fdisk /mbr" from a windows livecd in order to restore the mbr. if you don't do this you won't be able to boot windows after deleting linux
[01:05] <Smilez> Are there any newer nvidia drivers before enabling the default?
[01:05] <Siph0n> ouch.... seems tricky lol
[01:05] <soundray> trumpeter2003: so do I, we complement each other ;)
[01:05] <ikonia> Smilez: why do you want newer
[01:05] <deCon> Smilez, but you did find the proper rates and enter them, correct?
[01:06] <Smilez> ikonia: to save me from having to "update" later
[01:06] <Smilez> just in case
[01:06] <ikonia> Smilez: thats silly
[01:06] <trumpeter2003> ikonia: I'm not speaking of NTLDR going back onto the MBR, just switching back to it from grub
[01:06] <Smilez> deCon: yes. I looked up the monitor and foudn the proper rates
[01:06] <The_Belgain> hi there i'm having trouble with an upgrade from Edgy --> Feisty
[01:06] <The_Belgain> the problem is that Feisty isn't booting now - it starts booting fine and at a decent speed, but once it gets to starting gnome it just crawls almost to a standstill (i.e. 5 mins to show login screen, another minute to display keyboard input for username, over 10 minutes after that just to show the gnome splashscreen...)
[01:06] <dooglus> deCon: I just tried using the feisty live CD on a different PC
[01:06] <deCon> Smilez, there are only beta drivers and regular...the regular should be as up to date as possible
[01:06] <The_Belgain> any ideas on how to debug this?
[01:06] <Smilez> ok here we go, im going to enable the nvidia driver
[01:06] <deCon> dooglus, to do what again?
[01:06] <deCon> Smilez, good luck!
[01:06] <Smilez> thank you, I'll need it :D
[01:06] <dooglus> it booted OK, but when I tried to enable the desktop effects, it installed the nvidea driver then told me to reboot.  when I rebooted, it told me to do the sdame again.  and again.  why doesn't it remember?
[01:07] <The_Belgain> it's booting with the latest feisty kernel (2.6.20-15)
[01:07] <soundray> The_Belgain: boot in recovery mode and investigate /var/log/syslog and other log files
[01:07] <ikonia> you don't need look
[01:07] <ikonia> just the ability to read the docs
[01:07] <dooglus> deCon: I'm trying to use a live CD, but it just won't keep anything I do.
[01:07] <The_Belgain> recovery mode has the same problem though if i try to go into gnome
[01:07] <zero> help
[01:07] <ikonia> define keep
[01:07] <Smilez> deCon: Booting with my CRT plugged in and then swapping the CRT for my LCD in order to use 1024x768 is not an option
[01:07] <soundray> The_Belgain: don't go into gnome then.
[01:07] <Smilez> brb rebooting
[01:07] <ikonia> zero: whats the problem
[01:07] <The_Belgain> should i try just booting as far as the commandline and look for anything suspicious?
[01:07] <zero> i have a ipw 2200 bg network card
[01:08] <soundray> The_Belgain: that's what I would suggest
[01:08] <deCon> Smilez, why are you switching back and forth again?
[01:08] <deCon> Smilez, you should allow it to load on the LCD
[01:08] <zero> i cant get ip via dhcp server!, don't know why
[01:08] <deCon> dooglus, keep? as in save??? ...settings and config?
[01:08] <red22> my internet connection dies a couple times per hour and comes back in about 5 mins.. then everything is fine.  under windows (dual boot) that never happens.. any clues?
[01:08] <ikonia> zero: 1.) does your network card come up 2.) does the log show it requesting an address 3.) does the server log geting the requiest
[01:08] <ikonia> request
[01:08] <zero> ikonia: i cant get ip via dhcp server!, don't know why?
[01:09] <zero> ikonia: my card network come up
[01:09] <zero> ikonia: dunno about the second thing
[01:10] <ikonia> check
[01:10] <adamowitz> how do i add new codecs in ubuntu for playing things like this: http://www.elephantsdream.org/ ?
[01:10] <adamowitz> both vlc and totem from apt-get fail to play it.
[01:11] <adamowitz> presumably due to codec issues.
[01:11] <ikonia> install the codecs
[01:11] <ikonia> not the players
[01:11] <ikonia> the wiki has a how to
[01:11] <adamowitz> totem reports that it needs ac-3 (atsc a/52) decoder (microsoft mpeg-4 4.2 decoder)
[01:11] <Malfist> soundray: I get this error: *** glibc detected *** dosfsck: free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x080ca390 *** and it aborts
[01:11] <deCon> aren't all codecs installed by default in feisty?
[01:11] <dooglus> deCon: as in anything, yes.  like the graphic card drivers, for example.
[01:11] <ikonia> deCon: no
[01:11] <rellik> ever since I upgraded my sound hasn't worked..   it worked fine before the upgrade
[01:11] <Pelo> deCon,  no , they get installed as needed and you get ask for permission first
[01:12] <ikonia> rellik: is it an intel card
[01:12] <zero> help, i cant retrieve a ip via dchp
[01:12] <Smilez> deCon: 800x600 the second Gnome came up
[01:12] <adamowitz> Is this the one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyCodecInstallation ?
[01:12] <dooglus> deCon: the dapper liveCD would read and write settings to my memory stick
[01:12] <ikonia> zero: I've told you what to do
[01:12] <Siph0n> ok i dont have a windows live cd, or a floppy drive in my computer..... is there anyway to fix the windows mbr without the windows cd or a floppy drive? :)
[01:12] <deCon> dooglus, it is because it is a trial, you have not set up a drive to actually save these things. The live cd will run it, but until you point the OS to a place to save things (this doesn't count in the live cd)...it needs a ext2 or ext3 filesystem to save to, which you haven't set up
[01:12] <zero> ikonia: i dont know about the second thing ...
[01:12] <rellik> ikonia, no cmedia
[01:12] <ikonia> check the syslog
[01:12] <deCon> Smilez, try the nvidia application for changing it, and if that doesn't work, make sure your xorg has ALL of our compatible resolutions
[01:13] <zero> ikonia: im newbie on ubuntu sorry...
[01:13] <ikonia> rellik: ok
[01:13] <dooglus> deCon: is some extra set up needed?  I set it up for dapper already.
[01:13] <Smilez> deCon: I just checked xorg and both the refresh rates and resolutions are in there fine
[01:13] <deCon> dooglus, but your running the live cd, right? if its on your memory stick..hmm...it isn't saving things to it now?
[01:13] <soundray> Malfist: sorry, I have to give that a pass. It's what I would describe as a mixed weirdness.
[01:13] <ikonia> Smilez: are you trying to do dual head?
[01:13] <ikonia> Malfist: what are you trying to do  ?
[01:13] <rellik> ikonia, I have two sound cards though..  could that be causing the problem?  I remember having to go into some program and tell ubuntu which to use as the default card..  but I don't remember what that program was
[01:13] <Malfist> soundray: okay, thanks I looked at the options and am having it run automaticly
[01:13] <deCon> Smilez, and there are no options listed in any of the resolution setting locations including under system?
[01:14] <dooglus> deCon: dapper saves everything you do to the 'casper-rw' partition of the memory stick, if one exists.  I can't get feisty to do the same.  I'm talking about the live CD, yes.
[01:14] <Pelo> Smilez,   when I first install ubuntu I have to edit my xorg.conf file  where I had extra resolutions and also I need to asjust the h-rez and v-sync values,  if I only add the rez my screan gets weird,   just thought it might help you out ot now this
[01:14] <Malfist> ikonia: fix a bad FAT32 partition it seems
[01:14] <zero> ikonia: what you mean with the log requesting an address?
[01:14] <Smilez> ikonia: I have a single LCD monitor, and it wont let me change my resolution from 800x600
[01:14] <ikonia> zero: read the syslog
[01:14] <ikonia> Malfist: what are you doing to fix it
[01:14] <deCon> dooglus, interesting, i have no idea. give a shout and see if someone else would know why
[01:14] <Malfist> ikonia: dosfsck
[01:14] <Smilez> Pelo: I just added the proper rates to xorg.conf ,but im still screwed
[01:14] <zero> ikonia: how can i do that?
[01:14] <ikonia> Malfist: where did you get dosfsck from
[01:15] <N3rg4r> what is this:
[01:15] <ikonia> zero: open the syslog in a text editor
[01:15] <Pelo> Smilez,  pastebin your xorg.conf please , I would like to have a look
[01:15] <N3rg4r> Message from syslogd@ubuntu-lap at Wed Apr 25 18:11:59 2007 ...
[01:15] <N3rg4r> ubuntu-lap kernel: [ 3321.552000]  journal commit I/O error
[01:15] <Malfist> ikonia: must be default, it was already on the computer
[01:15] <deCon> Smilez, ask cables ...he may be able to help as well
[01:15] <dooglus> deCon: it's a useful thing to have - it means I can take my ubuntu install from pc to pc - I use quite a lot of different (windows) machines, you see
[01:15] <ikonia> Malfist: and what happens when you run it
[01:15] <incorperated> hello
[01:15] <Smilez> !pastebin
[01:15] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:15] <Malfist> ikonia: When running it with me selection options it give: *** glibc detected *** dosfsck: free(): invalid next size (fast): 0x080ca390 *** error, which is I suppose something to do with memory
[01:15] <incorperated> can sumone help me set a fluxbox theme
[01:16] <deCon> dooglus, i dont know how pen drives operate with the live cd, it isn't something i've had to learn yet...good luck.
[01:16] <Malfist> ikonia: I'm running it with it choosing options now
[01:16] <N3rg4r> ---> Message from syslogd@ubuntu-lap at Wed Apr 25 18:11:59 2007 ...
[01:16] <N3rg4r> ubuntu-lap kernel: [ 3321.552000]  journal commit I/O error
[01:16] <ikonia> Malfist: that suggests the glibc version is incompatible
[01:16] <ikonia> N3rg4r: you've said that 2 times now
[01:16] <N3rg4r> what is that??
[01:16] <n00buntu> anyone have a min to answer a question about ndiswrapper?
[01:16] <Malfist> ikonia: glibc should be uptodate
[01:16] <razzorz> Can someone Help me with this issue.. if they have come across it yet!!.....trying to install beryl and i get this  ( The following packages have unmet dependencies:  beryl: Depends: beryl-settings but it is not going to be installedE: Broken packages
[01:16] <ikonia> Malfist: agreed
[01:16] <zero> ikonia: you want me to put the syslog on pastebin?
[01:16] <Malfist> ikonia: unless me updating perl caused something
[01:17] <ikonia> zero: no, I want you to read it
[01:17] <Malfist> ikonia: I haven't rebooted yet, this is a slow computer
[01:17] <N3rg4r> razzorz, sudo aptitude install beryl beryl-manager emerald
[01:17] <ikonia> N3rg4r: it means an ext3 journal commit didn't happen
[01:17] <incorperated> can sumone help me set a fluxbox theme
[01:17] <incorperated> please
[01:17] <velko> incorperated, just select the theme from the menu. if it's not in the menu you have to put it in ~/.themes (iirc). a while since i don't use fluxbox
[01:17] <N3rg4r> ikonia, is it bad?
[01:17] <Smilez> Pelo:
[01:17] <zero> ikonia: i did, it doesn't show up anything about retrieving an ip address
[01:17] <ikonia> N3rg4r: means a commits not happened on the file system, has the potential to be bad
[01:17] <razzorz> Ty
[01:17] <incorperated> how youd u do that?
[01:17] <Pelo> Smilez, ?
[01:17] <razzorz> what was the matter? if i may ask
[01:17] <ikonia> zero: then there is the problem, your desktop is not requesting an ip
[01:18] <N3rg4r> ikonia, hard drive failure?
[01:18] <Smilez> sorry, i closed firefox before pasting and lost my clipboard link
[01:18] <Smilez> hold up
[01:18] <ikonia> N3rg4r: no
[01:18] <Malfist> ikonia: It's a flashdrive
[01:18] <Pelo> Smilez,  no hurry
[01:18] <Smilez> Pelo: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17702/
[01:18] <zero> ikonia: so, what can i do?
[01:18] <ikonia> zero: install dhcp client and configure it
[01:18] <Malfist> ikonia: now telling me "Segmentation fault"
[01:18] <ikonia> Malfist: yeah, glibc's not compatible
[01:19] <ikonia> Malfist: have you installed anything OUTSIDE the ubuntu repo's
[01:19] <Malfist> ikonia: the codecs, wine, and flash
[01:19] <Malfist> ikonia: and checkgmail
[01:19] <ikonia> that shouldn't cause it
[01:19] <zero> ikonia: apt-get install dhcp client ? something like that?
[01:19] <Smilez> Pelo: Do you think its because i have an adapter on the DVi connection on the nvidia card to allow my VGA cable to connect?
[01:19] <Pelo> Smilez,    the line  horizsync   31.5-60   make it 32-60  I donT' think xorg can actualy handle decimals,  as I recall I tried it and it effed me up badly
[01:19] <ikonia> zero: wrong package name, but the right ide
[01:19] <ikonia> idea
[01:20] <Smilez> Pelo: k
[01:20] <Pelo> Smilez,  I wouldnT' know abut the dvi connection,  sorry
[01:20] <zero> ikonia: you know the packages name?
[01:20] <transparent> whats the diff between reg deasktop install cd and one rccomended for desktop with less than 256mb ram?
[01:20] <ikonia> zero: seach for it
[01:20] <mindframe_> Pelo, ive had no problems with decimals in the xorg before
[01:20] <zero> ikonia: hehe... where?
[01:20] <ikonia> in the ubuntu repo's
[01:21] <Pelo> mindframe_,  I'm just looking for stuff that might cause problems
[01:21] <Smilez> Pelo: I just noticed something. I ran sudo nvidia-settings, and "Resolution" is set to Auto, and it wont let me change it
[01:21] <Smilez> Pelo: and the model is listed as @@@
[01:21] <Smilez> maybe there is a seperate Nvidia config being loaded?
[01:21] <Pelo> Smilez,  wow
[01:21] <trumpeter2003> transparent: The regular install disc comes with all the GUI stuff, like Xorg and Gnome, the other, or called the Alternate CD is a text based version, with no GUI stuff prebuilt.
[01:22] <Pelo> Smilez,  what does nvidia-settings --help have to say ?
[01:22] <Smilez> not sure, lets see
[01:22] <Agrajag> trumpeter2003: not true, the altenrate CD will install gnome
[01:22] <Smilez> Pelo: Which part "wow"'d you?
[01:22] <Agrajag> trumpeter2003: it just lacks the GUI installer
[01:22] <Pelo> Smilez, the @@@
[01:23] <Pelo> Smilez,  I found your problem you nvidia driver is infested with snails
[01:23] <Smilez> Pelo: oh yeah... not sure why it does that.... also, it wont grab the edid... any way we can disable checking edid?
[01:23] <Smilez> hahahah
[01:23] <Pelo> Smilez,  man nvidia
[01:23] <trumpeter2003> Agrajag: Hence the words prebuilt at the end of that line explaining the alternate cd.
[01:23] <transparent> so the main dif would be a non GUI installer? all i saw on site is it says reccomended for system with less than 256 mb ram. other than that no diff?
[01:23] <The_Belgain> soundray: I can't see anything suspicous in /var/log/syslog (though I don't really know what I'm looking for) - i think the problem is that nothing actually goes wrong until later in the boot process
[01:23] <Pelo> look for optons or instructions on setting rez or disabling auto
[01:23] <dooglus> tritonx: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/84591 tells us that persistent (casper-rw) mode is broken in feisty :(
[01:23] <Smilez> Pelo: .nvidia-settings-rc or something like that... lemme find it
[01:24] <Agrajag> trumpeter2003: what do you even mean by "prebuilt"?
[01:24] <soundray> The_Belgain: you need to look back in /var/log/syslog to get to the messages that were logged when the problem actually happened.
[01:24] <Agrajag> trumpeter2003: the packages on the alternate CD are prebuilt, this isn't gentoo
[01:24] <trumpeter2003> transparent: It is different due to the GUI system not being built into the Live CD so it saves on installation time.
[01:24] <The_Belgain> I did notive that things may have started going slowly around the point where CUPS got started (and when I shutdown from the gnome boot menu, it drops to the console which seems to still be trying to start CUPS
[01:24] <Smilez> Pelo: nope that file just handles the settings for the nvidia-settings application itself
[01:24] <Agrajag> well ok, you have a different definition in mind, is all
[01:24] <trumpeter2003> Agrajag: Prebuilt = Built into the Live CD for Startup installation or running.
[01:24] <Pelo> Smilez,  man nvidia
[01:25] <Smilez> no man entry foudn
[01:25] <N3rg4r> why is dvd::rip missing???
[01:25] <N3rg4r> and avidemux?
[01:25] <adamowitz> ok, i installed all those gstreamer-* packages that were suggested here: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/codecs.html (as well as a bunch of others).  problems still, tho...
[01:25] <soundray> The_Belgain: in that case, it may be worth trying to 'sudo killall gnome-cups-icon'. I've had that one going crazy on me on a few different machines. Don't know what it is, though.
[01:25] <transparent> well i have a pII laptop with 256 ram should i just use reg desktop cd or the one rccomended for system with less than 256ram?
[01:25] <adamowitz> Totem will play it now (whereas it didn't before), but the video is hugely distorted, and there is no sounds.
[01:25] <adamowitz> any suggestions?
[01:26] <soundray> The_Belgain: I mean, run that command when the problem occurs
[01:26] <velko> N3rg4r, because you have not enabled the multiverse repository
[01:26] <Agrajag> transparent: I would install with the alternate CD. And you might want to consider using xubuntu rather than ubuntu
[01:26] <adamowitz> I'm using feisty, but the help.ubuntu.com page above seemed most fitting to my needs.
[01:26] <transparent> whats the x for?
[01:26] <Agrajag> transparent: xubuntu uses XFCE instead of Gnome, which requires fewer resources
[01:26] <The_Belgain> the last thing i see happening in syslog before a gap of 13s is "pcc_acpi: loading..."
[01:26] <transparent> nice i wanted to use xfce4 anyways
[01:27] <Agrajag> transparent: well there you are, then. xubuntu has an alternate install CD as well, so use that one
[01:27] <Smilez> Pelo: How the hell can i find out what or where the nvidia driver is reading in order to force it to use Xorg?
[01:27] <soundray> The_Belgain: reboot normally and see if killing gnome-cups-icon helps. You could also switch to a text console with Ctrl-Alt-F2 when the system is slow, and run top
[01:28] <transparent> hum kindof odd unbuntu just dosent incluse all WM and let u pick during install... you really need to use a doff dick to instaleld with xfce instead of gnome?
[01:28] <Pelo> Smilez, read the nvidia manpage if there is one    terminal  man nvidia
[01:28] <transparent> disk i mean lol
[01:28] <The_Belgain> thanks soundray - i'll try that
[01:28] <Smilez> there isn't one :(
[01:28] <transparent> i already downloaded the iso
[01:28] <Pelo> Smilez,  I am reading up on your problem in the forum,  you are not the only one
[01:29] <Smilez> thanks pelo, i found that thread but lost the url during reinstall
[01:29] <Smilez> Pelo: and I appreciate the help
[01:29] <Pelo> Smilez,  no prlb,  ther are actualy several threads on the subject,  I just need to find one with a solution
[01:29] <Malfist> soundray: It seems to have fixed it. It says there is only 138MB on the drive but still, there is 0 bytes free
[01:30] <jeffwheeler> Every time X11 starts (or gdm, or something beginning with the visual graphics), I have to move my monitor's horizontal position settings, the amount which changes depending on the graphics drivers (and therefore the live cd is moved differently than my install, which uses the nvidia drivers). I have a Dell flatpanel monitor, that is a couple of years old.
[01:30] <Smilez> Pelo: Awesome. I love this community already
[01:30] <jeffwheeler> Any ideas?
[01:30] <The_Belgain> one thing which didn't upgrade correctly when doing Edgy --> Feisty is the hotkeys package - i wouldn't imagine that would matter too much though..
[01:30] <Agrajag> transparent: Well, you can install xfce after the fact if you want
[01:30] <redt0nia> i have a 21" CRT
[01:31] <transparent> hum i dont see the xubuntu is the download section on site? where can i get it from?
[01:31] <Agrajag> transparent: but yes, in order to keep these all down to a single disk they're separate WMs
[01:31] <hsbalbaid> hey all . i need some help plz . i cant move/copy files from my desktop to other drives, "paste" option doesnt appear . i tried to change the permissions options but i couldnt cuz it gives me "read only" message. any ideas?
[01:31] <Agrajag> transparent: http://www.xubuntu.org/get
[01:31] <Malfist> I have a 1GB flash drive and Thunar is reporting that it has 1*8MB of data on it with 0 bytes free
[01:31] <Malfist> anyone know how to fix that, it's in a FAT32 partition
[01:31] <xyz-abc> soundray: I'm reading the Samba documentation and I don't get what they mean by "computer accounts" and network user, can you explain?
[01:32] <Pelo> Smilez,   I just read that nvidia settings  saves its changes to xorg.conf ,  so it doesn't look like you need to search for another file
[01:32] <Agrajag> transparent: according to that you should be able to use the desktop CD for xubuntu instead of the alternate install CD
[01:32] <BobSoft> velko, Still here?
[01:32] <Agrajag> transparent: but either one will do the same job
[01:32] <velko> BobSoft, yep. but not for much longer
[01:32] <BobSoft> Okie dokie.
[01:32] <velko> BobSoft, go ahead
[01:32] <transparent> cool thanks guys ill go with xubunto
[01:32] <Smilez> Pelo: well then what in the heck is going on... if we can't find it in xorg?
[01:32] <BobSoft> velko, I did what you suggested.
[01:33] <fulvioo> Anyone managed to 'softmod' a Radeon 9500 to 9700 under Ubuntu?
[01:33] <BobSoft> velko, Now I remember the error it throws.
[01:33] <Smilez> Pelo: something is probing the monitor and coming back empty handed
[01:33] <soundray> xyz-abc: a unix account is the combination of a login name, a home directory and an entry in /etc/passwd
[01:33] <Pelo> Smilez,  patience grasshopper
[01:33] <velko> BobSoft, not generating Packages.gz or using reprepro?
[01:33] <Smilez> Pelo: I'm reading the man pages right now on nvidia-settings
[01:33] <Pelo> Smilez,  probably because your monitor is not recognized
[01:33] <xyz-abc> soundray: how about an example?
[01:33] <incorperated> yo
[01:33] <hsbalbaid> hey all . i need some help plz . i cant move/copy files from my desktop to other drives, "paste" option doesnt appear . i tried to change the permissions options but i couldnt cuz it gives me "read only" message. any ideas?
[01:34] <soundray> xyz-abc: you need one on the server to be able to mount a share that the server exports on a client.
[01:34] <BobSoft> velko, Well, I'm using the Packges.gz files (all 16 in various places) in /etc/apt/sources.list.
[01:34] <incorperated> can someone help me add a fluxbox theme real quick
[01:34] <Smilez> Pelo: In opensuse, i had the option of telling X my monitor name, type, etc... can i do that anywhere besides xorg.conf?
[01:34] <BobSoft> velko, And all seems to go well when I 'apt-get update'.
[01:35] <Pelo> Smilez,  there is a place for it,  where it says  generic monitor,  but I'm thinking you would need the proper  monitor name ( from a list it can recognise)
[01:35] <velko> BobSoft, you don't use Packages.gz in sources.list. or am i terribly mistaken?
[01:35] <BobSoft> velko, However, it cannot find any of the deb files due to how the original Packages.gz files are created.  You're correct. The line reads this way: (deb file:/home/shared/UbuntuRepos/dists/dapper/main/binary-i386/ ./)
[01:35] <xyz-abc> soundray: ok
[01:35] <Pelo> Smilez,   I don'T have an nvidia card and I donT have a problem
[01:36] <Pelo> I'm just sayihng
[01:36] <transparent> will xubuntu come with openoffice? or wil li need to add that on my own?
[01:36] <erisco> how do I get window's video codecs, for mpegs and whatnot, for feisty?
[01:36] <xyz-abc> soundray: so what I got is my Ubuntu user account.. name?
[01:36] <velko> BobSoft, so the splitting program does not update Packages and Packages.gz like it should?
[01:36] <Smilez> Pelo: yeah but you are one person without an nvidia... ppl expect operating systems to know all and do all and do it all well :D
[01:36] <BobSoft> velko, That line is read correctly by apt when I do a 'sudo apt-get update'. That's okay. But any attempt to install a file fails because the folder structure it looks through is all messed up.
[01:37] <soundray> xyz-abc: the username is that which appears before the first :
[01:37] <Pelo> Smilez,  this tread is very helpfull,  I am learning a lot,  don'T dispair
[01:37] <BobSoft> velko, I haven't tried using the splitting program yet. It's installed. But I'll have to do some research on how to get it working with the load of files I  have.
[01:37] <Smilez> Pelo: thanks buddy, you mind pasting a link for me so i can follow along?
[01:37] <BobSoft> velko, So, I think I'll stick with the lesser of two wrong ways of doing things.
[01:37] <BobSoft> velko, ;-)
[01:37] <creadorcreativo> erisco: check this, http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/index.php
[01:38] <Pelo> Smilez, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=417716&page=2&highlight=nvidia+resolution
[01:38] <creadorcreativo> erisco: you need add a extra repository, and then install the package "w32codecs"
[01:38] <Smilez> gracias
[01:38] <hsbalbaid>  i cant move/copy files from my desktop to other drives, "paste" option doesnt appear . i tried to change the permissions options but i couldnt cuz it gives me "read only" message. any ideas?
[01:38] <xyz-abc> soundray: before the first : ? then my username would be only "x"... wtf?
[01:38] <erisco> creadorcreativo, thanks, I was looking for the package name :) should have said that heh
[01:38] <velko> BobSoft, if you use reprepro it will generate all this stuff for you very easily. the problem is how to decide which packages to go to each dvd depending on their size? this is the tricky one
[01:38] <mark__> i hit themes in beryl and nothing changes....any ideas....???....
[01:39] <Pelo> Smilez,   do you  nvidia-settings or sudo nvidia-settings ?
[01:39] <velko> BobSoft, you have a solution in your howto currently but you'll have to modify it heavily if you want to use reprepro
[01:39] <BobSoft> velko, Take care. I won't bother you any further. The way I've got listed on UbuntuForums "works" albeit in a bit of a broken way. Better than nothing. You see: I *could* make DVDs but my intention is to access the files directly on HDD. So I think I'll stick what what sort of works.
[01:39] <soundray> xyz-abc: first of all, don't ever wtf me, or in fact anyone here, unless you are certain that they don't mind.
[01:40] <xyz-abc> soundray: sorry for my language
[01:40] <Smilez> sorry pelo had a phone call
[01:40] <velko> BobSoft, i whish you all the best
[01:40] <soundray> xyz-abc: the username is that which appears BEFORE the ':', ie. to the left of it.
[01:40] <Smilez> Pelo: I do sudo nvidia-settings
[01:40] <Pelo> k
[01:40] <BobSoft> velko, Many thanks.
[01:40] <BobSoft> velko, :-D
[01:41] <xyz-abc> soundray: this is what I got: "x:1000:1000:Downstairs,,,:/home/downstairs:/bin/bash"
[01:41] <hsbalbaid> mr velko i think i need ur help
[01:41] <daftman> hi i need help using apt-get
[01:41] <velko> mr hsbalbaid if i can help you i surely will
[01:41] <razzorz> Trumperter: got a sec?
[01:41] <bokey> daftman, what you need to do ?
[01:42] <zachwlewis> How do I edit my xorg.conf file?
[01:42] <daftman> everytime i use apt-get I get this error: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exit unexpetedly
[01:42] <hsbalbaid> ok .  i cant move/copy files from my desktop to other drives, "paste" option doesnt appear . i tried to change the permissions options but i couldnt cuz it gives me "read only" message. any ideas?
[01:42] <mcmillen> does anyone know how to make KDE apps quit "blinking" in the GNOME window list?
[01:42] <BobSoft> daftman, Anything in particular concerning apt-get?
[01:42] <Pelo> Smilez,  check you pm windows I pasted something worth trying
[01:42] <soundray> xyz-abc: okay, that's unusual. I would expect it to be 'downstairs:x:1000:1000:Downstairs,,,:/home/downstairs:/bin/bash'
[01:42] <trumpeter2003> hsbalbaid: You have to remount the destination drive as rw instead of ro
[01:42] <daftman> when i tried running sudo dpkg -l: i get "Bus error"
[01:42] <zachwlewis> My xorg.conf is read-only. How do I set it so I can edit it?
[01:43] <soundray> xyz-abc: since judging by the name of the home directory, the username (or login name) is "downstairs"
[01:43] <velko> hsbalbaid, your file system is mounted read only or by a user different than yours (and you don't have write permissions)
[01:43] <bokey> daftman, can you paste your output ?
[01:43] <bokey> !pastebin | daftman
[01:43] <ubotu> daftman: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[01:43] <trumpeter2003> razzorz: I would have not seen your message as it didn't highlight your name, next time to grab my attention type trumpeter2003 (tru<tab>)
[01:43] <razzorz> Trumperter: all went well with the install for Beryl... but for some reason when i turn the Beryl manager i get the cube but thats it.. all i see is a white cube that spins like normal and the dimond on the ends... Nothing eles!!!
[01:43] <xyz-abc> soundray: ok.. so that simple, just like my login name? that's my "computer account" name?
[01:43] <soundray> xyz-abc: yes
[01:43] <hsbalbaid> i'm totally new to the system so i dont exactly understand wot these r
[01:43] <trumpeter2003> razzorz: Are you starting Gnome with XGL from your login manager?
[01:43] <zachwlewis> My xorg.conf is read-only. How do I set it so I can edit it?
[01:43] <razzorz> i have to end the session and turn off XLG
[01:44] <daftman> Bobsoft: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg exited unexpectedly
[01:44] <velko> hsbalbaid, trumpeter2003 seems to be able to help you. i'm going to sleep. best
[01:44] <xyz-abc> soundray: but you said "a unix account is the combination of a login name, a home directory and an entry in /etc/passwd", downstairs is just a login name
[01:44] <BobSoft> daftman, What flavour of Ubuntu are you using?
[01:44] <daftman> that happens everytime I tried running apt-get
[01:44] <daftman> Dapper
[01:44] <PapoAnaya> Good Evening
[01:44] <daftman> running server
[01:44] <razzorz> Str8 Gnome is fine but dont work with beryl... when i turn on xlg all is ok... but as soon as i load the manager i get the white cube ....
[01:44] <trumpeter2003> razzorz: As such, did you create all the scripts that were requested? And even more so, did you chmod a+x them?
[01:44] <razzorz> Yes
[01:44] <roelof_> sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf in terminal
[01:45] <hsbalbaid> thx anyway
[01:45] <daftman> i think there is something wrong with my dpkg
[01:45] <soundray> xyz-abc: yes, that's correct. Where is the "but"?
[01:45] <razzorz> step by step
[01:45] <daftman> when I run dpkg it says "Bus error"
[01:45] <razzorz> like i say its there but white and not useable with the mouse except spinning it
[01:45] <trumpeter2003> razzorz: That means that the Window Manager isn't loading
[01:45] <razzorz> ok.. ist there a step to correct it?
[01:45] <xyz-abc> soundray: if "downstairs" is "it", then where is the "combination of a login name, a home directory and an entry in /etc/passwd"?
[01:46] <trumpeter2003> razzorz: Which resorts to the scripts not being created correctly or without the correct permissions
[01:46] <trumpeter2003> brb, drink
[01:46] <roelof_> zachmewis: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf in terminal
[01:46] <razzorz> hb
[01:46] <zachwlewis> Is there any way to change my login name?
[01:46] <soundray> xyz-abc: oh, I see the source of the communication problem we have. It's a missing comma.
[01:46] <trumpeter2003> razzorz: Go back through and check that you did all the steps in the guide and didn't skip over any of them
[01:46] <daftman> anyone with any ideas?
[01:46] <roelof_> zawhlewis i mean : sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf in terminal
[01:46] <roachk71> Hmm... Usually a bus error happens when a buggy app tries to use memory that doesn't exist, or is owned by another process.
[01:46] <trumpeter2003> zachwlewis: Changing your username = changing your login name
[01:46] <razzorz> ok
[01:47] <razzorz> now haveing siad that
[01:47] <razzorz> will it hurt if do it all again?
[01:47] <BobSoft> daftman, Well. I just tried running it and everything works. (sudo dpkg -l).
[01:47] <daftman> roachk71: but this is dpkg
[01:47] <^^malajenho^^> hi
[01:47] <trumpeter2003> razzorz: Shouldn't
[01:47] <soundray> xyz-abc: a unix account is the combination of login name, a home directory, and an entry in /etc/passwd (Thanks to my parents, Mother Teresa and God :)
[01:47] <razzorz> Ok.. then i will be back
[01:47] <daftman> BobSoft I know it works for you . But is doesn't work for me
[01:47] <roelof_> if you want to stay in terminal until ending terminal as root type sudo -s -H
[01:47] <trumpeter2003> Just make sure all the coded lines aren't all jumbled and that everything that is requested to be installed is installed.
[01:47] <BobSoft> daftman, But I'm using Dapper Drake 6.06.1.
[01:47] <^^malajenho^^> i'm trying to compile a program, and this is the out of the console:      cc1: warning: command line option "-Woverloaded-virtual" is valid for C++/ObjC++ but not for C
[01:47] <BobSoft> daftman, Have you installed Fiesty?
[01:47] <trumpeter2003> razzorz: And all the permissions on the scripts are a+x
[01:47] <xyz-abc> soundray: ok :D
[01:47] <daftman> yep I don't think it is a distribution problem
[01:48] <The_Belgain> how can i find out my root password if i'm already logged in as root (at a command prompt)?
[01:48] <roachk71> Nevertheless, this is an unusual problem for dpkg...
[01:48] <daftman> i think it is a problem with only my machine
[01:48] <roachk71> Daftman, is yours a PowerPC machine?
[01:48] <daftman> Nope its a p4
[01:48] <soundray> The_Belgain: you don't. There is no root password in ubuntu.
[01:48] <trumpeter2003> The_Belgain: Have you set the root password yet for the installation?
[01:48] <daftman> it only occurs recently
[01:48] <daftman> so is it a ram problem? a hd? problem? etc
[01:48] <roachk71> How much RAM does it have?
[01:49] <soundray> The_Belgain: in recovery mode, it logs you in without a password because it's recovery mode.
[01:49] <The_Belgain> don't think so (can't remember tbh - this is an upgrade and i normally used sudo before)
[01:49] <daftman> 256 MB
[01:49] <daftman> a light webserver
[01:49] <xyz-abc> soundray: you were right, the /etc/passwd shows the account name correctly
[01:49] <^^malajenho^^> hi, I'm trying to compile a source, and when I do "make", this is the message that I see:       "cc1: warning: command line option "-Woverloaded-virtual" is valid for C++/ObjC++ but not for C"
[01:49] <soundray> trumpeter2003: what do you mean "yet"? You don't set a root password in ubuntu. (The_Belgain)
[01:49] <The_Belgain> when I Ctrl+Alt+F2 from gnome login screen it asks me for my username password
[01:49] <roachk71> That probably explains the problem... I used to have probs with segfaults and bus errors until I upgraded the computer's memory.
[01:49] <trumpeter2003> soundray: You can, just sudo su - && passwd :)
[01:49] <The_Belgain> it doesn't seem to accept my username password
[01:49] <stellaras> can anyone explain how can i add languages in ubuntu(i add greece in keyboard layout but i'm not sure if this is the way) and how to change between them(i mean for writing greek fro example)
[01:49] <soundray> The_Belgain: use your regular username and password
[01:50] <bianconeri> Hello how does one configure evolution to get gmail? I tried to find where I could change the default ports in evolution, but failed? Thanks
[01:50] <BHSPitMonkey> Anyone know how to deal with an incomplete edgy->feisty upgrade? :S     Battery died.
[01:50] <daftman> roachk71 but it only occurs recently
[01:50] <BHSPitMonkey> Now it's being weird.
[01:50] <soundray> trumpeter2003: just because you can doesn't mean you should. It's actively discouraged in ubuntu.
[01:50] <Pelo> bianconeri,  you need to do some config in www.gmail.com to allow it and in evolution you will be using   ssl security
[01:50] <ubuntuEdgy> hey  PovAddict remember me ?
[01:50] <trumpeter2003> soundray: Only if you don't know how to administrate your linux machine successfully.
[01:50] <soundray> trumpeter2003: 'sudo su' and friends are also deprecated. Use sudo -i to get a shell
[01:50] <roachk71> daftman: what version are you running?
[01:51] <BHSPitMonkey> stellaras, isn't there a Panel applet for switching input locales?
[01:51] <soundray> trumpeter2003: this has nothing to do with knowledge.
[01:51] <smallfoot-> dont type /names
[01:51] <GaiaX11> How do I know my motherboard state battery? Is there a program for that? Or a command line?
[01:51] <mEck0> is Quake 4 a nice game? It was some time ago I played it, and now it's very cheap in a shop
[01:51] <Pelo> bianconeri,  in gmail you also have a load of instructinos for  different  clents    use the one for generic or other
[01:51] <bianconeri> Pelo: I did that, but the guide asks for changing default port numbers...which isn't available in evolution
[01:51] <stellaras> BHSPitMonkey: i can't realy find it, where it should be ?
[01:51] <daftman> roachk71 dapper server
[01:51] <soundray> trumpeter2003: setting a root password exposes your machine unnecessarily.
[01:51] <Pelo> bianconeri,   yes it is hold on I will tell you how,  open up your properties, I've done it
[01:52] <^^malajenho^^> somebody could help me with this problem?       "cc1: warning: command line option "-Woverloaded-virtual" is valid for C++/ObjC++ but not for C"
[01:52] <bianconeri> ok?
[01:52] <trumpeter2003> soundray: Again, only if you don't know how to administrate the machine
[01:52] <chocobanana> is there anyone here using the slab menu in feisty?
[01:52] <smallfoot-> what happen if you type /names ?
[01:52] <BHSPitMonkey> stellaras, right-click on your Panel, choose "Add to Panel...", and look for "Character Palette" near the bottom.
[01:52] <soundray> trumpeter2003: that's just nonsense.
[01:52] <chocobanana> is there a binary for it?
[01:52] <jrib> ^^malajenho^^: the error seems to be pretty straightforward no?
[01:52] <Pelo> bianconeri,   are you there ?
[01:52] <The_Belgain> yay - finally, it turns out that it's network manager that's eating 100% CPU!
[01:52] <roachk71> After a reboot, daftman?
[01:53] <bianconeri> Pelo: ya I opened properties
[01:53] <trumpeter2003> soundray: Every application that would have the ability to support root user login or other means of the root user being allowed access to the machine has a method of blocking it
[01:53] <jrib> malikeye: erm sorry, it's not even an error, just a warning
[01:53] <BHSPitMonkey> stellaras, that may not be what you're needing, though.
[01:53] <jrib> ^^malajenho^^: erm sorry, it's not even an error, just a warning
[01:53] <Pelo> bianconeri,  ok  for you gmail account,   second tab ,  receiving or what ever,    server >  pop.gmail.com:995
[01:53] <The_Belgain> thanks soundray
[01:53] <chocobanana> is there any slab menu binary package for feisty?
[01:53] <stellaras> BHSPitMonkey: it's not this :) i need something like language bar in windows
[01:54] <trumpeter2003> soundray: So it takes a few seconds to change a few config files to disallow root users from remote access to everything, it isn't insecure, it's just more work in keeping the knowledge or of the programs that allow remote root access and which don't to change the configuration files and what those flags are to the config file.
[01:54] <BHSPitMonkey> stellaras, ah, I think "Keyboard Indicator might be what you're looking for.  It's also in that list.
[01:54] <spiderfire> hello
[01:54] <bianconeri> same for smtp? I tried using the the colons by the way, guess ill try again
[01:54] <chocobanana> hi
[01:54] <Pelo> bianconeri,  yes
[01:54] <spiderfire> why does the update-manager not have a -c
[01:54] <Pelo> bianconeri,  very imporatnt you need to set security to  SSL encription for both servers
[01:55] <soundray> trumpeter2003: look, I'm not going to discuss every half-truth that you spout here till the end. I will ignore you now. Do me a favour and do the same for me.
[01:55] <Smilez> Pelo: To no avail :(
[01:55] <trumpeter2003> soundray: And to expand on your assigning a password to the root user, what is the difference between that and giving full sudo access to users? That is just like running root with the added bonus of typing your password over again for each new terminal session
[01:55] <Pelo> Smilez,   the auto thing should be the next step,  disable that
[01:56] <Smilez> auto thing?
[01:56] <bianconeri> Unable to connect to POP server pop.gmail.com.
[01:56] <bianconeri> Error sending password: Resource temporarily unavailable ....SSL is enabled
[01:56] <stellaras> BHSPitMonkey: thank you this is what i was looking for, now i have to find a the keyboard shortcut for this :)
[01:56] <Pelo> Smilez,  in  nvidia settings
[01:56] <py_geek> ALL:: I'm trying to copy about 17 gigs of data to my ipod, but suddenly the copying thingy stops... any ideas?
[01:56] <jrib> bianconeri: you enabled pop in your gmail account?
[01:56] <bianconeri> ya
[01:56] <Pelo> bianconeri, it works for me so there is no reason it shouldn't work for you
[01:56] <bianconeri> Yes POP is enabled
[01:56] <CombatWombat> Hi, anyone have experience with (secondary) IDE drives not being recognised by Ubuntu on startup?  I have various linux distro's (suse, red hat, backtrack) which all recognise it, but Ubuntu FF won't :(
[01:57] <Agrajag> !worksforme
[01:57] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[01:57] <soundray> py_geek: my guess is that unstable USB hardware is to blame. Use rsync for copying to avoid having to start over.
[01:57] <bianconeri> is it working now? Maybe something wrong with the server
[01:57] <rottenapl> i tried the 7.04 live cd on my toshiba laptop, which has a geforce 460 go. when i click 'enable' for the nvidia restricted driver, it installs fine. when i drop back to the login screen and restart X, i am greeted with a white/gray display which makes it look like my LCD is melting. i experienced the same thing in beta. any ideas what the heck is happening?
[01:57] <py_geek> soundray: how do i do that?
[01:57] <roachk71> Agrajag: Sound advice any time.
[01:57] <stellaras> ok i found in thanks
[01:57] <soundray> !info rsync | py_geek
[01:58] <ubotu> py_geek: rsync: fast remote file copy program (like rcp). In component main, is standard. Version 2.6.9-3ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 254 kB, installed size 504 kB
[01:58] <DarknezzSpace> whats the best irc client for gnome?
[01:58] <xyz-abc> soundray: I'm trying to use this command "smbclient //someXPuser/somefolder -U <username>" command, but which user goes for "username", the Ubuntu username?
[01:58] <jrib> DarknezzSpace: xchat  in my opinion
[01:58] <soundray> py_geek: it has a good manpage, and there are quite a few howtos around
[01:58] <bruenig> !info mencoder
[01:58] <ubotu> mencoder: MPlayer's Movie Encoder. In component multiverse, is extra. Version 2:1.0~rc1-0ubuntu9 (feisty), package size 3473 kB, installed size 8732 kB
[01:58] <DarknezzSpace> ok thanks
[01:59] <phobiac> If you want to install a package that is on the DVD, what do you do? Is it as simple as popping the DVD in and trying to install it?
[01:59] <BHSPitMonkey> rottenapl, in case your question doesn't get addressed in here, I'd try asking again in #ubuntu-effects ; there's a lot of video-knowledgeable people in there.
[02:00] <rottenapl> BHSPitMonkey, thanks for the tip
[02:00] <soundray> xyz-abc: try with the ubuntu username. If it doesn't work, you may have to use smbpasswd, but I'm not sure.
[02:00] <xyz-abc> ok
[02:00] <BHSPitMonkey> phobiac, when you insert the DVD, does it not pop up saying it found packages?
[02:00] <xyz-abc> soundray: I'm still not clear as to which PC is the server and which is the client, can you explain?
[02:00] <dsnyders> Hi all, Has anyone gotten palm/visor synching working with fiesty?
[02:00] <phobiac> I hadn't tried, I'm trying to figure it out for a friend. It's as simple as popping in the CD?
[02:00] <R_6> Hello
[02:01] <R_6> i have a slight problem booting from a live CD
[02:01] <py_geek> all: how d i use rsync?
[02:01] <soundray> xyz-abc: the server is where the files are. The client is where you want to work with the files.
[02:01] <jrib> bianconeri: yes, it is working for me
[02:01] <MidNightSunRay> phobiac, yes.
[02:01] <ep2011> what programs do you recommend for media playback for viewing on firefox, viewing files, and dvds?
[02:01] <py_geek> all:open, anyway
[02:01] <phobiac> Thank you for your help.
[02:01] <ep2011> What are all of your preferences?
[02:01] <MidNightSunRay> ep2011, on firefox i think mozilla-vlc plugin is ok
[02:01] <bruenig> ep2011, mozilla-mplayer
[02:01] <MidNightSunRay> for all the rest, vlc, or kaffeine, or totem..
[02:02] <bianconeri> jrib: weird, it says that the password is wrong over here, however from the browser it logs in...i tried multiple times, I even copied and pasted fromt he browser
[02:02] <BHSPitMonkey> dsnyders, no, but I miss my old Visor...
[02:02] <jrib> ep2011: I agree with bruenig's choice
[02:02] <squee_> Are their any data recovery tools for linux?  (not file checking like fsck)
[02:02] <ep2011> bruenig and jrib: over totem?
[02:02] <bruenig> ep2011, yes
[02:02] <bianconeri> R_6: shoot whats ur problem?
[02:02] <xyz-abc> soundray: what if I want to just share files between an XP and an Ubuntu PC?
[02:02] <jrib> bianconeri: hmm, you entered your login name correctly?  google requires the dots in the right spot if you used them originally
[02:02] <xyz-abc> soundray: I mean, both ways
[02:02] <dsnyders> BHSPitMonkey, Mine's still ticking.  A few scratches on the screen, but it works just fine.
[02:03] <ep2011> bruenig, which codecs would I install for mplayer, it uses xine if im not mistaken, so not the gstreamer codecs?
[02:03] <MidNightSunRay> xyz-abc, use samba.
[02:03] <BHSPitMonkey> !info testdisk > squee_
[02:03] <jrib> ep2011: yes, but it's just preference.  Try both and use what works best for you
[02:03] <bianconeri> jrib: what dots?
[02:03] <BHSPitMonkey> hope I used that command right.
[02:03] <xyz-abc> midnightsunray: i know, I'm trying to understand the terminology and applicature of "server" and "client" for my needs
[02:03] <soundray> xyz-abc: then you will have to set ubuntu up both as a client and as a server.
[02:03] <Siph0n> i saw on the ubuntu forums a link to a site that had lots of VMWare images,..... anyone know that site? :)
[02:03] <BHSPitMonkey> dsnyders, my Visor Deluxe was so awesome looking... but, I digress.
[02:03] <jrib> bianconeri: for example my username could be   j.rib   but people can send mail to jrib or j.r.i.b etc... I still need to login with j.rib though.  If you didn't use dots, then never mind
[02:04] <ep2011> jrib, which codecs would I install for mplayer, it uses xine if im not mistaken, so not the gstreamer codecs?
[02:04] <xyz-abc> soundray: so then the Ubuntu PC will be officially both a Samba client and a server while the XP pc will be... both as well?
[02:04] <bianconeri> jrib: no dots here
[02:04] <dsnyders> BHSPitMonkey, It'd be nice if I didn't have to jump through a different set of configuration hoops with each OS upgrade
[02:04] <soundray> xyz-abc: functionally, yes. Although Windows doesn't run samba, but Microsoft's implementation of smb/cifs (the network protocol)
[02:04] <jrib> ep2011: you shouldn't need to install anything afaik.  w32codecs if you want, but I haven't needed them
[02:04] <jrib> ep2011: mplayer doesn't use xine btw
[02:04] <bianconeri> btw how does one highlight who he is talking to over here on irc?
[02:05] <jrib> bianconeri: address the person you are speaking to (prefix your message with the person's nick)
[02:05] <BHSPitMonkey> dsnyders, I haven't had to do much with palm support in linux to date.  My mom just boots XP to use hotsync manager I'm afraid.
[02:05] <RemboSachs> bianconeri, just type their name and it highlights
[02:05] <bianconeri> bianconeri like this?
[02:05] <RemboSachs> Could someone help me? i'm trying to boot to ubuntu from a Live CD but i get an X server error
[02:05] <dsnyders> BHSPitMonkey, Booting to XP just to hotsync?  I'd be afraid too.
[02:05] <ep2011> jrib, what does it use? and for codecs like avi which arent installed? Or does mplayer install them
[02:05] <bianconeri> jrib like this?
[02:06] <RemboSachs> bianconeri yes
[02:06] <bianconeri> jrib ok thanks
[02:06] <zouzou85> hi
[02:06] <BHSPitMonkey> bianconeri, you can use the Tab key to finish typing the person's nick, as well.
[02:06] <jrib> ep2011: you should be ready to go by just installing "mplayer" from the repos
[02:06] <LaszloKv> Could someone help me with a fstab setup so that the drive is mounted with read permissions for other?
[02:06] <bianconeri> rembosachs is it case sensetive?
[02:06] <zouzou85> anybody had a problem with beryl and the window borders?
[02:06] <BHSPitMonkey> (It makes you faster and more accurate.)
[02:06] <ep2011> jrib, okay, thanks ill try that
[02:06] <RemboSachs> bianconeri i think so
[02:06] <jrib> LaszloKv: what file system?
[02:07] <BHSPitMonkey> bianconeri, usually not, but if you use Tab-completion then it isn't an issue.
[02:07] <bianconeri> BHSPitMonkey, thanks :D
[02:07] <BHSPitMonkey> welcome.
[02:07] <LaszloKv> jrib: It's mounted as vfat
[02:07] <RemboSachs> Could someone help me with booting to linux via Live CD
[02:07] <MjV> Hey very very general question here
[02:07] <ep2011> jrib, yep, thank you, it installs all the codecs when you install mplayer
[02:07] <ep2011> jrib, one last thing, do you know the package name for mplayer firefox plugin?
[02:07] <bianconeri> RemboSachs, whats wrong?
[02:07] <jrib> !vfat > LaszloKv (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:07] <BHSPitMonkey> RemboSachs, old computer/cd drive?
[02:07] <jrib> ep2011: mozilla-mplayer
[02:08] <Nunzio> Is there a way to set VLC as the default media playing in firefox, it seems like after watching about 5 - 7 videos i have to restart firefox for anymore to work with mplayer
[02:08] <RemboSachs> my computer is almost brand new, BHSPitMonkey
[02:08] <ep2011> jrib, thanks
[02:08] <jrib> Nunzio: uninstall the mplayer plugin and install the vlc one
[02:08] <MjV> Is there any real reason to get Feisty???  Im pretty happy with Edgy, but don't want to miss out lol
[02:08] <Nunzio> How do i uninstall the mplayer plugin?
[02:08] <RemboSachs> the error says "failed to start the X server. It is likely it is not set up properly." when i try to boot it via live CD
[02:08] <jrib> Nunzio: how did you install it?
[02:08] <BHSPitMonkey> RemboSachs, well, it might be your boot order.  When the computer is starting, is there any text that says something like, "Press [something]  for Boot Menu"?
[02:08] <Nunzio> It was already installed with firefox i suppose
[02:09] <BHSPitMonkey> RemboSachs, ohh.