[00:00] <docmur> Meh, I'd rather kill it every X minutes and if people need to login again, they need to login again, it's not a big deal, it takes 20 seconds to login, and that way if they change the client connect from, it won't matter.
[00:00] <mrrtrump> nop
[00:01] <mrrtrump> hmmm
[00:01] <bekks> docmur: Fix your client's ssh clients.
[00:01] <docmur> We're obviously going to disagree, so it doesn't matter
[00:01] <mrrtrump> weird it stays for min the sets iself back
[00:01] <mrrtrump> fuuunky
[00:02] <bekks> docmur: Indeed. It doesnt matter. Open ssh sessions are nothing tobe worried about.
[00:02] <docmur> I would disagree, but it doesn't matter :), no worries!
[00:03] <cpyarger>  banana
[00:05] <nacc> mrrtrump: setting date to the wrong value relative to the system's timezone and ntp is fixing it?
[00:07] <thon> this is the only log I've been able to produce nacc: http://pastebin.com/eazczJgr
[00:07] <thon> fwiw
[00:08] <nacc> thon: did you add those debugging statements? i was saying adjust that function that is erroring out and add printfs or whatever
[00:08] <nacc> to see what it is trying to do and what is failing/why
[00:09] <thon> not yet. I was contacting the dev
[00:12] <Maynard> SO in software center I installed cpufreq but it doesn't show in the panel???
[00:12] <nicomachus> Maynard: you have to start it first.
[00:13] <Maynard> Total noob to ubuntu.... how do I start it?
[00:13] <nicomachus> from a terminal, type in "cpufreq", hit enter.
[00:14] <Maynard> command not found
[00:15] <Maynard> not showing as installed in software center either but when I go to all it has a green check mark
[00:16] <Ben64> Maynard: what exactly did you install and what do you expect it to do
[00:18] <Maynard> cpu freq.... it manages cpu Mhz.... for some reason in Ubuntu my processor is runnin 1400 not 1900
[00:18] <Maynard> it's underclocking my CPU
[00:18] <Ben64> "cpu freq" isn't a package
[00:19] <Ben64> and it's likely that the processor scales up when needed
[00:19] <Maynard> It is supposed to be a simple icon in panel click dropdown and change seettings
[00:20] <Ben64> you still haven't said what you installed
[00:20] <nacc> Maynard: as in the exact pacakge name; whatever of ubuntu as well?
[00:20] <Maynard> xfce4-cpufreq-plugin
[00:21] <nacc> Maynard: i believe you have to add that to your panel once it's installed?
[00:21] <nacc> Maynard: also, i don't believe that does *any* control
[00:21] <nacc> Maynard: it's purely informational about what your current cpu frequency is
[00:22] <Maynard> ROger...you're right.  I want something to adjust CPU clock etc.
[00:24] <nacc> Maynard: are you sure you're not just seeing the effects of a cpu governor? meaning that when your cpu is not busy, it's clocking down? if you peg the cpu, do you see the cpu mhz change?
[00:24] <Ben64> Maynard: you should really check to see if it scales up under load, there is no point in having the cpu at 100% during idle
[00:24] <nacc> Ben64 has you covered :)
[00:25] <Maynard> No I get that. It is a quad core with 16G and running like in was stock
[00:25] <Maynard> Thanks Ben64
[00:25] <Ben64> well you should check
[00:26] <Maynard> check how?
[00:27] <Ben64> run something that maxes out the cpu, check frequency
[00:28] <OerHeks> that provisioning happens in the kernel, the only use for those tools is to trottle back
[00:28] <Maynard> I forgot....what is the easy way to check that.... the command I mean.
[00:28] <scripteiro> Hello
[00:29] <kolaris> quit
[00:30] <OerHeks> Maynard, good start about renice & priority http://askubuntu.com/questions/656771/process-niceness-vs-priority
[00:35] <Roldan> I have a wing problem when decompress a .rar file, sends me an error saying "RAR encryption support unavailable"
[00:36] <xangua> Roldan: did you install rar, unrar or 7zip-full?
[00:36] <Roldan> xangua : i thought that Ubuntu come with XD
[00:37] <Roldan> Where i cand obtein it, in thesoftware center?
[00:37] <Roldan> xangua: Where i cand obtein it, in thesoftware center?
[00:38] <xangua> Roldan: yes
[00:39] <Maynard> OerHeks_ noob still trying to get a happy stable Studio 14.04 system here.  I read that page and it's all greek to me I need simple like a kid.
[00:39] <Roldan> xangua: Thanks!
[00:39] <futurama140> Hey, I have an issue here: currently everytime i want to play warcraft 1 in dosbox, i have to open dosbox, mount the folder and navigate to the folder and initialize the game all by command line. Is there a way i can script all that or create a shortcut to the game .exe that knows to open the game with dosbox or what?
[00:40] <xangua> Roldan: if you wanna skip time just install ubuntu-restricted-extras to add rar support, video and audio codecs, flash, fonts, etc.
[00:41] <debidi> futurama140: looks like there's a [autoexec] section at the endo of dosbox config file
[00:42] <futurama140> debidi: what does that mean in practice? i'm clueless
[00:43] <Roldan> xangua: i install "Ark" to descompress the file, but send methis "Ark was not able to open APSCC2014 (64bits) by urbina.rar. Failed to load a suitable plugin.  Make sure any executables needed to handle the archive type are installed."
[00:44] <xangua> Roldan: I never said you to install this "ark" did I?
[00:44] <xangua> Either install unrar or 7zip-full
[00:45] <debidi> futurama140: in a terminal issue the following: "gnome-text-editor ~/.dosbox/dosbox*.conf" <omit the quotes
[00:45] <Roldan> xangua: no, so how can i install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[00:46] <xangua> Roldan: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:49] <futurama140> debidi: thank you
[00:50] <Roldan> xangua: and when its done just select "extract here"?
[00:51] <xangua> Roldan: try
[00:52] <Roldan> xangua: it works, thanks!!!!!!
[01:06] <ux2> Hdllo
[01:27] <obrazu> hi all
[01:30] <ROldan> Gparted dont let me make a partition
[01:32] <LambdaComplex> that's very unfortunate
[01:32] <LambdaComplex> does it give you an error message?
[01:32] <obrazu> on ubuntu server, what are the differences between the default "ubuntu" user and one I create using adduser besides sudoers
[01:33] <ROldan> i cant resize the HDD
[01:33] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: is it mounted?
[01:33] <Bashing-om> ROldan: 4 primary partition limit ? As there can only be a max of 4 in the legacy partitioning scheme ( one of which can  be a container to hold 128 additional logical partitions ) .
[01:34] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: How mounted?, its my central HDD
[01:34] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: are you trying to resize your / partition?
[01:35] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: yes
[01:35] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: i need to desmount it?
[01:36] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: well obviously you can't unmount your / partition
[01:36] <LambdaComplex> i'm not sure if gparted has any way of resizing a mounted partition
[01:36] <LambdaComplex> if you used a live cd/usb, you could do it from there
[01:36] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: jaja im new with this, Thaks!
[01:37]  * LambdaComplex doesn't even know if the ubuntu live cds have gparted installed
[01:37]  * LambdaComplex hopes someone who knows more about this will jump in
[01:37] <nicomachus> LambdaComplex: they do
[01:37] <LambdaComplex> figured. just wanted to be sure
[01:37] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: So what i need to do the partition?
[01:38] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: well, if you boot to a live cd, nothing. it should just let you resize it. but it won't let you resize it right now because it's in use
[01:39] <obrazu> on ubuntu server, what are the differences between the default "ubuntu" user and one I create using adduser besides sudoers
[01:39] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: entering with my USB and to try to start I can make the partition???
[01:42] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: entering with my USB (where I install ISO) and to try to start I can make the partition?
[01:42] <Ben64> obrazu: that's it
[01:42] <LambdaComplex> obrazu: i have no clue but i doubt there's many things you can change between two users. biggest difference is probably the groups they're in
[01:43] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: boot it in live mode so you get a desktop
[01:43] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: then run gparted
[01:43] <WARDEN> I am having an issue, please note my ISP does not block any ports. I am running ver 16.04. I have the servers ip setup as the only ip in the DMZ zone on the router. I have my domain (one of them, afnet.us) pointed to the correct IP address, and i have even gone so far as to disable the firewall on the server as well. however ever time i try to SSH in connection closes saying connection refused,
[01:43] <WARDEN> any advice?
[01:43] <obrazu> Ben64: one thing for example when I'm logged into ubuntu and I do a sudo command, it doesn't re-prompt for the password, my new user does
[01:43] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: live mode?
[01:43] <Ben64> obrazu: newly created users can't use sudo by default
[01:44] <obrazu> Ben64: I've added my new user to the sudoers list, but it still prompts for my password and then successfully executes the command
[01:44] <Ben64> WARDEN: ssh in from where
[01:44] <WARDEN> I can however successfully SSH in on my LAN
[01:45] <WARDEN> Ben64: externally
[01:45] <Ben64> obrazu: you shouldn't add user to the sudoers file, add them to sudo group
[01:45] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: sounds right
[01:45] <Ben64> WARDEN: because i'm seeing port 22 open on that domain
[01:45] <Ben64> WARDEN: so it sounds like you're hitting the wrong ip
[01:45] <WARDEN> hmm
[01:45] <LambdaComplex> WARDEN: Have you checked the sshd_config file?
[01:46] <obrazu> ben64: after the newuser was created i ran the following command "sudo adduser NewUser sudo
[01:46] <LambdaComplex> Perhaps it's disabled for that user from an external ip?
[01:46] <samuel_> alguem e BR aqui
[01:46] <WARDEN> try ip <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:46] <LambdaComplex> Perhaps password authentication is disabled?
[01:46] <Ben64> WARDEN: yep works
[01:46] <WARDEN> hmmm well ill be
[01:46] <samuel_> @list
[01:46] <samuel_> #list
[01:46] <LambdaComplex> WARDEN: yep, 22 is up on that
[01:46] <Ben64> samuel_: no
[01:47] <WARDEN> Ben64 may i pm you for a moment?
[01:47] <Ben64> ok
[01:47] <LambdaComplex> WARDEN: although i should point out that leaving sshd on port 22 is a tad risky
[01:47] <SchrodingersScat> WARDEN: could it be because you're from inside the lan?
[01:47] <samuel_> se tive algum brasileiro ou brasileira pm
[01:47] <SchrodingersScat> !br | samuel_
[01:48] <wolftune> hey guys - after uninstalling zsh, I can't login. I tried to re-enable bash from root with chsh -s /bin/bash user but I get the error chsh: cannot lock /etc/passwd; try again later.... Anyone have any suggestions please?
[01:49] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: does something have the passwd or shadow file open?
[01:49] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: if no, are there lock files existent? such as /etc/passwd.lock or /etc/shadow.lock
[01:50] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: Im only in recovery mode as root but ill check
[01:50] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: how can i do that?
[01:51] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: do what, exactly?
[01:52] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: boot it in live mode
[01:52] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: I see shadow and shadow-, as well passwd and passwd- but no lock
[01:52] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: do u speak spanish?
[01:53] <obrazu> On Ubuntu Server, I'm trying to create an identical user to the default "ubuntu" (not prompting for a password upon sudo, and all the same permissions)
[01:53] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: poorly
[01:53] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: pretty sure this channel has an "english only" rule, regardless
[01:53] <Ben64> obrazu: the default ubuntu does prompt for a password
[01:54] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: how can i boot in live mode?
[01:54] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: are there _any_ files that end in .lock in /etc/ ?
[01:54] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: exist an spanish chanel?
[01:54] <obrazu> Ben64: it only prompts for the password upon initial login to the system, once connected it never re-prompts for a password when i run sudo commands
[01:54] <LambdaComplex> !es | ROldan
[01:54] <Ben64> obrazu: that is not standard behavior
[01:54] <_surferdude> hi, has anyone been able to successfully build/install drivers for a Realtek R8168 NIC on 16.04 LTS?
[01:55] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: there .pwd.lock
[01:55] <Ben64> _surferdude: don't need to build or install, they're in the kernel
[01:55] <obrazu> Ben64: It's a fresh install of Ubuntu Server 16.04 on a Raspi2
[01:56] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: and theres mtab.fuselock
[01:56] <Ben64> obrazu: then you might want to check #ubuntu-arm or #raspberrypi or something
[01:56] <obrazu> Ben64: will do
[01:58] <_surferdude> ben64: i wish it was that easy. I see my NIC in the network connections menu but it doesn't show link
[01:58] <_surferdude> in 15.04 I had to download the realtek drivers and build them from source
[01:59] <Ben64> _surferdude: what module is loaded for it? (lsmod)
[01:59] <_surferdude> r8169
[01:59] <_surferdude> lspci says i have an r8168
[01:59] <WARDEN> SchrodingersScat: Upon speaking with Ben64 i believe this to be the issue.
[02:00] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: Hm, I think it may be that .pwd.lock file
[02:00] <SchrodingersScat> WARDEN: what do I win?
[02:00] <Ben64> _surferdude: can you do "sudo modprobe r8168"
[02:00] <SchrodingersScat> WARDEN: j/k, glad you figured it out
[02:01] <WARDEN> SchrodingersScat: lol idk million dollars???
[02:01] <_surferdude> says r8168 not found in /lib/modules/4.4.0-21-generic
[02:01] <WARDEN> SchrodingersScat: eh make it a billion wth right?
[02:02] <ipatrol> wut?
[02:02] <Ben64> _surferdude: then time to install the package "r8168-dkms" and get that module compiled
[02:03] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: thanks, but it says it's read-only, is there a thing I need to do to get to root without mounting as ro ?
[02:03] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: theres no one
[02:03] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: how can i boot in live mode?, for made the partition
[02:04] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: oh, yeah. recovery mode. it probably is ro right now actually
[02:04] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: check by running ''mount''
[02:04] <LambdaComplex> (''mount | grep ext4'' will probably do it if it's ext4)
[02:05] <LambdaComplex> if it is then you need to remount it as rw
[02:05] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: what are the options when you boot to the ubuntu usb?
[02:06] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: yeah it says (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[02:06] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: so how do I get it to rw?
[02:07] <Bashing-om> ROldan: The term 'live' is when you boot up the install medium that contains a desk top om the "try ubuntu" mode .
[02:07] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: ...it says rw
[02:07] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: I was trying to mv the lock file to a temporary new name, should I try rm ? Is it safe to remove the .lock ?
[02:10] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: Try or install
[02:10] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: it seems because of the errors part it might be mounted as ro ?
[02:10] <wolftune> or no?
[02:11] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: what was the error that mv was giving you?
[02:11] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: and it's safe if you're sure nothing is actually accessing the passwd/shadow files
[02:11] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: try
[02:11] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: it said "Read-only file system" and nothing else is running at all besides this recovery session
[02:11] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: but in try mode i can use gparted?
[02:12] <auzty> i got these case, "user1 need to write to specific folder that owned by user2" but when i using group , the file that writed by user1 have the user1 permission, so user2 cannot delete it, "
[02:13] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: ...Why are you in recovery mode, anyways?
[02:13] <LambdaComplex> ROldan: yes
[02:13] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: I didn't otherwise know how to get to *any* shell because my user has zsh as shell but it's been removed
[02:13] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: what about root?
[02:13] <wolftune> will try again
[02:14] <ROldan> LambdaComplex: ok im gonna try, thanks!
[02:14] <LambdaComplex> oh, wait, ubuntu disables root by default. gg
[02:14] <LambdaComplex> wolftune: but if you enabled the root account and its shell is bash........
[02:15] <Ben64> wolftune: you can remount it rw
[02:15] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: how would I enable root if the only way to get logged into any shell is recovery mode?
[02:15] <wolftune> Ben64: okay, I can do that in recovery mode?
[02:16] <Ben64> yep
[02:16] <wolftune> Ben64: or do you know another way to get to root other than recovery?
[02:16] <Ben64> also yep
[02:16] <wolftune> Ben64: oh okay, how?
[02:16] <Ben64> but since you're in recovery now, just use that
[02:16] <wolftune> Ben64: I already left recovery, but I can go back
[02:16] <Ben64> its the easiest
[02:17] <wolftune> recovery is easiest?
[02:17] <Anastasia19> No
[02:17] <LambdaComplex> auzty: does setting g+w on the file fix this?
[02:17] <Ben64> yeah it's not called recovery for nothing
[02:17] <wolftune> Ben64: okay how do I mount as rw ?
[02:18] <Ben64> mount -o remount,rw /dev/null /
[02:19] <auzty> yes LambdaComplex , but when the user2 create directory / file, the owner become user2:user2 , and user1 didn't have any right to delete it
[02:20] <LambdaComplex> auzty: try setting g+w on the directory
[02:20] <LambdaComplex> i think that'll change the default permissions of files created in it
[02:21] <LambdaComplex> or maybe i'm wrong
[02:22] <wolftune> LambdaComplex: I'm back!! Thanks SO much! Ben64 thanks
[02:23] <dax> ubottu: nickspam | jq-
[02:23] <LambdaComplex> auzty: oh, here we go. ''setfacl -d -m g::rw /path/to/directory/''
[02:23] <LambdaComplex> auzty: that'll make any file created in the directory have g+rw by default
[02:24] <LambdaComplex> might also wanna look into the use of the sgid bit
[02:24] <auzty> wow, thanks LambdaComplex :) that i mean, thanks a lot :)
[02:25] <e-vent> Anyone know why the coretemp module would be missing on an Intel Atom based ubuntu system?
[02:25] <e-vent> Lm-sensors is a bit useless without it
[02:26] <juanmapalad> !ping
[02:26] <nicomachus> lol
[02:26] <LambdaComplex> auzty: yeah, it could be worth looking into setfacl and getfacl. facl is "file access control list," which is basically a way around the shortcomings of the standard unix permissions
[02:27] <nicomachus> e-vent: what's the ubuntu version and kernel version?
[02:27] <e-vent> Uname -a = 4.4.0-22-generic #40-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 12 22:03:46 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:27] <juanmapalad> i am about to start exploring ubuntu. any advice on materials for beginner? currently donwloaded ubuntu for desktop
[02:27] <e-vent> Should be in 16.04
[02:27] <LambdaComplex> auzty: since of course when you decide that every single user has to fall into one of only three categories....it's kinda restricting at times
[02:28] <e-vent> Yup, it is 16.04, the CPU is a  Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU D2550
[02:28] <LambdaComplex> juanmapalad: 1. is this your first linux distro? 2. i should probably say something along the lines of "this is a support channel and therefore this discussion is more appropriate for #ubuntu-discuss"
[02:28] <nicomachus> LambdaComplex++
[02:28] <nicomachus> also:
[02:29] <nicomachus> !manual | juanmapalad
[02:29] <juanmapalad> LambdaComplex, yes
[02:29] <e-vent> nicomachus, I have a feeling that it missing might be indicative of no support for the CPU. Which is amusing given the wifi card has a working temp sensor showing.
[02:30] <e-vent> Bit odd though.
[02:30] <sgronblo> ducasse: Btw, the compute stick worked perfectly for HD videos as long as they were in the right format (h264)
[02:31] <LambdaComplex> juanmapalad: yeah, join #ubuntu-discuss and ask there
[02:31] <nicomachus> e-vent: I wanna say it's probably a kernel bug. has it worked before?
[02:31] <e-vent> Not to my knowledge.
[02:31] <e-vent> Elsewhere the web seems to be indicating a lack of support for a lot of Atom based stuff
[02:31] <LambdaComplex> e-vent: just to make sure, the cpu _does_ actually have a built-in sensor, right?
[02:31] <e-vent> but those are dated 8 years ago in some cases.
[02:32] <e-vent> LambdaComplex, I don't believe there has been any CPU made in the last decade without one.
[02:32] <e-vent> Of any type, in any hardware from any manufacturer.
[02:33] <LambdaComplex> no idea! just a thought
[02:33] <e-vent> Pretty much all modern ones have thermal throttling built in, even my old crappy semprons had a thermal cutout!
[02:33] <e-vent> :)
[02:34] <nicomachus> e-vent: the only thing I'm finding is 6-7 year old bug reports from Jaunty.
[02:34] <e-vent>  modprobe coretemp
[02:34] <e-vent>  = modprobe: FATAL: Module coretemp not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.0-22-generic
[02:34] <e-vent> It's also missing in the previous kernel
[02:37] <nicomachus> e-vent: well, check in /lib/modules/4.4.0-22-generic/kernel/drivers/hwmon/ and see if "coretemp.ko" is there.
[02:37] <e-vent> There is no hwmon directory.
[02:37] <e-vent> Told you it was odd.
[02:38] <nicomachus> uhhh. what
[02:38] <nicomachus> apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:39] <mr2> :)
[02:40] <e-vent> Nearly finished install the dist upgrade stuff
[02:41] <piercedwater> which version are you upgrading from?
[02:42] <piercedwater> I'm on 14.04 and I'm thinking of going to 16.04
[02:42] <nicomachus> 16.04, 4.4.0-22
[02:42] <e-vent> Last LTS release
[02:42] <piercedwater> oh
[02:42] <nicomachus> piercedwater: wait until July 21st.
[02:42] <e-vent> 14.04 to 16.04, so far so good.
[02:42] <piercedwater> why nicomachus
[02:42] <nicomachus> piercedwater: because that's when the upgrade path for 14.04 -> 16.04 is released.
[02:42] <piercedwater> oh ok
[02:42] <piercedwater> ty
[02:43] <nicomachus> !LTSupgrade
[02:43] <piercedwater> nice
[02:45] <WARDEN> So, can connect/login via ssh to my server running 16.04, via domain/ip externally, however internally cannot get error of "Network error: Connection refused" server LAN ip is in DMZ zone, all firewalls disabled
[02:45] <WARDEN> any ideas?
[02:45] <SchrodingersScat> thought you figured out it was because you're inside the lan :P
[02:46] <WARDEN> SchrodingersScat: But the billion dollar question is how do i get it so i can connect to external ip/domain from inside the lan?
[02:46] <WARDEN> i have no problem sshing from internal lan ip to internal lan ip
[02:46] <WARDEN> we ruled a few things out, but still have this one issue
[02:46] <SchrodingersScat> so why no do that? or change your /etc/hosts to point to the one inside the lan?
[02:47] <WARDEN> SchrodingersScat: Also for clairification, i am on a win10 system at the moment
[02:47] <WARDEN> even though for the record im not fond of windows
[02:48] <SchrodingersScat> I'm sure even windows has a hosts somewhere.
[02:48] <WARDEN> do you think there may be a setting amiss somewhere?
[02:49] <WARDEN> on the windows system that is
[02:49] <SchrodingersScat> WARDEN: I was trying to navigate around the problem, if that's not what you want then I'll let you be.
[02:49] <WARDEN> i was just curious on your thoughts, i am in fact looking for windows equiv of hosts file
[02:50] <jorhell> hey whatcha
[02:53] <Sebastien> so, im trying to find a way to make subdomains on my vps, so for example freenode.net/paste would be reached with paste.freenode.net
[02:53] <Sebastien> running latest ubuntu
[02:54] <WARDEN> Windows host file equiv is at C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\etc\
[02:55] <Sebastien> O_o
[02:59] <e-vent> Yeah so that "update" just uninstalled my DHCP server
[02:59] <e-vent> wtf
[03:00] <e-vent> It also appears to have disabled the keyboards too
[03:00] <e-vent> Upon generating the new boot init it cut me off
[03:01] <e-vent> zfs module
[03:01] <e-vent> I expect it to now cut me off again
[03:02] <e-vent> Any idea why a kernel regen for zfs would crash the machine?
[03:04] <e-vent> jesus christ what the hell did this update do to isc-dhcp-server
[03:07] <leonoel> hi guys during install I click on the auto login, but my user is not auto login at startup, any ideas on how to fix this please?
[03:10] <WARDEN> Will be back in a little bit
[03:10] <Sebastien> WARDEN-temp-away, no need to use /nick for away, use /away
[03:11] <somsip> !away (actually)
[03:11] <somsip> !away| (actually)
[03:11] <somsip> Sebastien: sorry - that says what you said. I thought it was different :)
[03:12] <Sebastien> https://freenode.club/irc-behavior.html
[03:12] <Sebastien> this is even better ^ :)
[03:13] <WARDEN-temp-away> i also did that because i forgot what email i used with WARDEN nickserv registration and cant ret password
[03:13] <WARDEN-temp-away> tty in a bit
[03:13] <e-vent> nicomachus, now I have unbuggered my DHCP server
[03:13] <e-vent> still no hwmon
[03:15] <slima> Hi, I have a problem. I need bind9 with dlz-mysql, so I get source via apt, in debian/rules I'm added option, but when I do dpkg-buildpackage it's fail because of 'mysql.h: No such file' mysql.h is in /usr/include/mysql/ How can I add CPPFLAGS to dpkg-buildpackage?
[03:17] <e-vent> brb
[03:17] <e-vent> need to check a reboot wont nuke my gateway
[03:18] <walrider> hii
[03:18] <walrider> :)
[03:19] <walrider> wc wc aLL
[03:20] <walrider> ce manoj da
[03:20] <Mac3lite> -=Help=- I am trying to triple boot my MacBook Pro with Ubuntu, Windows 10 and OS X 10.10 - I booted to USB Linux to install using rEFInd as my boot manager...going through the Ubuntu Install I hit a BootLoader install failed..
[03:20] <walrider> wc klow
[03:21] <lasindi> Hi all, does anyone here use mpi4py on Ubuntu (or potentially another Linux distro)? For me, running "from mpi4py import MPI" crashes python with a bunch of errors: https://bpaste.net/show/82a93eaa6835 From what I can tell it's something to do with the mpi4py install but would like to know if someone has a way to use Ubuntu's package of it.
[03:21] <Mac3lite> Is a BootLoader the same as Bootmanager? Because I already have rEFInd alread installed and working, so can I continue Linux install without BootLoader?
[03:21] <walrider> i think boot manager is to manage edit those boot loader
[03:21] <walrider> nigga
[03:23] <Mac3lite> I'm going to try completing install without BootLoader and see if I can launch Linux from the bootmanager
[03:24] <debidi> xManger, xSupervisor, xHypervisor all this abstraction just makn everything needlessly convoluted
[03:24] <Mac3lite> Is there a better chat room for setting up MacBook Pro' with Linux?
[03:25] <walrider> dnt know
[03:25] <walrider> maybe its there
[03:30] <Mac3lite> Well Ubuntu installed successfully - but rEFInd isn't recognizing that Linux is installed...maybe I have to reconfigure it somehow
[03:32] <Bashing-om> !mac | Mac3lite Maybe help here ?
[03:35] <Mac3lite> I'll check that in a second - I just tried REinstalling rEFInd via OSX to see if it picks up the Linux Partition this time...which I think it just did
[03:36] <Mac3lite> yes it did!
[03:36] <Mac3lite> now to see if Ubuntu will fully boot! fingers crossed....so far so good
[03:37] <relyks> er
[03:38] <Mac3lite> hmm it's just at a (initramfs)_ now... Gave up waiting for root device.
[03:48] <unicornjedi> hey folks. Can someone help me choose which services to disable on BUM. My boot-up time is supah slow
[03:48] <nkowdley> Hey guys, anyone know why the terminal colors look different between ubuntu and linux mint?  My bashrc has become violently pink since changing
[03:49] <abortedbaby> hi darrenwu
[03:50] <unicornjedi> nkowdley, oooh pink is da color of love. Your terminal is trying to say something.
[03:50] <unicornjedi> nkowdley, mess with the profile setting located in the header menu
[03:50] <Bashing-om> unicornjedi: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/systemd-blame.html Isolate booting isaues .
[03:51] <unicornjedi> Bashing-om, ooh... I guess this issue is gonna take some time to resolve... :| Well time to readddd
[03:52] <donofrio> where would I find the netinstall for 16.04?
[03:52] <darrenwu> abortedbaby, hi
[03:52] <nkowdley> unicornjedi: perfect!  Thanks!
[03:52] <abortedbaby> darrenwu: they can't keep a baby down
[03:52] <Bashing-om> unicornjedi: That is systemd tutorial .
[03:52] <unicornjedi> donofrio, use the key words on google: 'Ubuntu Alternate Install'
[03:53] <donofrio> alt is 700+ mb I need the cdrom not dvd
[03:53] <unicornjedi> nkowdley, Oh you're welcome buddy!
[03:53] <unicornjedi> donofrio, one sec
[03:54] <Bashing-om> donofrio: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/xenial/ ; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD .
[03:54] <obrazu> I want to setup a static IP on my Server 16.04, unlike all the tutorials i've found so far my /etc/network/interfaces file has an extra section ...interfaces may have been defined in interfaces.d/*.cfg I tried to edit the .d/*.cfg file in but it didn't take
[03:54] <unicornjedi> donofrio, download mini.iso
[03:55] <donofrio> k
[03:55] <donofrio> tnx
[03:58] <unicornjedi> Bashing-om, good gawd, I was reading the page and I did systemd-analyze plot > /tmp/plot.svg and I opened up the image and itss huuuuuuuuuge
[03:59] <unicornjedi> 32535 x 7290 pixels.. Lord have mercy
[04:00] <unicornjedi> Bashing-om, start-up finished in 11.605s*kernel) + 5min 12.948s (userspace) = 5min 24.554s
[04:01] <Bashing-om>  unicornjedi A lot of info .
[04:06] <rhorse> does Unity support moving a window to the next workplace by dragging it to the edge?
[04:07] <obrazu> How to set static IP in Server 16.04 involving /etc/network/interfaces.d/50-cloud-init.cfg
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> rhorse: you can drag windows to another workspace yes
[04:08] <rhorse> lotuspsychje: on my screen, dragging it to the edge just maximizes it in some way...
[04:09] <obrazu> rhorse: maybe upper left corner?
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> rhorse: oh, you need to use your workspaces icon first, then drag the window to the next
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> rhorse: works when you see all 4 workspaces
[04:10] <rhorse> lotuspsychje: pretty cool. I was hoping it could do the fluxbox thing...
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> rhorse: perhaps with ccsm?
[04:11] <rhorse> lotuspsychje: ok. Do you know the shortcut key for the workspace icon..?
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> rhorse: not out of head sorry, i use the icon itself on the launcher
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> !shortcuts | rhorse
[04:13] <rhorse> lotuspsychje: Thank you
[04:20] <Tednash> hello gents
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> Tednash: welcome, what can we do for you?
[04:22] <Tednash> i just installed ubuntu on a raspberry pi 3. i'm trying to get quake 3 to run on it, following this set of instructions: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=18853
[04:22] <nisqually> I just came in to watch, and learn
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> !arm | Tednash
[04:22] <Tednash> k
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> nisqually: good idea, there is also #ubuntu-offtopic and #ubuntu-discuss if you like
[04:23] <nisqually> Can it get interesting.
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> yes
[04:23] <nisqually> Ty
[04:26] <nisqually> Just a quick question...   Is Ubuntu working in the Arm arena?
[04:26] <somsip> !arm | nisqually
[04:26] <obrazu> nisqually: i'm running server 16.04 on a raspi2
[04:26] <nisqually> Cool
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> nisqually: alot is being worked on, see also #snappy perhaps
[04:27] <[Saint]> The ARM Arena. Two SoCs go in, only one comes out.
[04:27] <nisqually> I am writing some of this down.  before my head forgets.
[04:28] <obrazu> Weird issue, I set a static IP in /etc/network/interfaces and that ip works, but ifconfig still shows my dhcp address, and it also still works. how do i fix this?  (server 16.04)
[04:29] <gde33> funny, I forget how I enabled middle click scroll in firefox but it gets stuck scrolling
[04:30] <[Saint]> DHCP reservation tables made me super lazy on the static ip client side front.
[04:32] <nisqually> join #ubuntu
[04:32] <obrazu> [Saint], this seems to be a new issue/layout with 16.04
[04:32] <nicomachus> nisqually: you're already here, friend.
[04:33] <[Saint]> obrazu: dunno - I do all my static adressing with DHCP reservation tables since years ago
[04:33] <[Saint]> just sharing an anecdote, sorry.
[04:33] <nisqually> k..
[04:34] <nisqually> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:34]  * [Saint] hands nisqually some /'s
[04:35] <syntax_> Hi. I was wondering if anyone could help me out with a problem I have been having with installing wine1.7? I keep getting a particular error message which, after googling, I have not been able to resolve. I am using Ubuntu 13.04. After running "sudo apt-get install wine1.7" I get this output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/16503755/
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> syntax_: its recommended to use package versions, specific for your ubuntu version
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> !latest | syntax_
[04:36] <Bashing-om> !raring | syntax_
[04:36] <gde33> I've found the about:config for autoscroll but if I disable that middle click loads urls from clip board in the current tab
[04:37] <syntax_> lotuspsychje: I've been able to install wine1.4 and wine1.6 but not wine1.7. My problem is that the program that I want to run apparently only works on 1.7
[04:37] <syntax_> lotuspsychje: thanks for your help. Is your advice to update my version of ubuntu before trying to install wine1.7?
[04:39] <gde33> ah middlemouse.contentLoadURL, ok.. nmv
[04:40] <Joaquin-V> does xeyes serve an actual... purpose?
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> syntax_: no, using the wine version for your ubuntu version
[04:40] <Joaquin-V> all I've seen it useful for is to do this: https://a.pste.pw/NZR.png
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> syntax_: if your program doesnt work on current wine, please file a new bug
[04:41] <[Saint]> syntax_: though you probably should be wanting to get off eol ubuntu anyway
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> Joaquin-V: eyes follow your mouse
[04:42] <syntax_> lotuspsychje: ok. thanks. Is it possible - while not recommended - to use a version of wine that is not for 13.04?
[04:42] <Joaquin-V> lotuspsychje: yes, but does it actually have any applications in which it'd be useful?
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> syntax_: first do what [Saint] advised
[04:42] <Joaquin-V> so far it's only been the butt of every Linux joke
[04:42] <Joaquin-V> from what I've seen
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> Joaquin-V: does the manpage show you anything usefull?
[04:43] <Joaquin-V> "Xeyes watches what you do and reports to the Boss."
[04:43] <[Saint]> bm nnnnnnnnnnbndfcv
[04:43] <[Saint]> bah - sorry. kitten.
[04:43] <syntax_> lotuspsychje: thanks for your help. Have a good night! :)
[04:43] <Joaquin-V> come on, even the manpage is jokes
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> Joaquin-V: some linux packages are meant to laugh...like cowsay
[04:44] <Joaquin-V> lotuspsychje: oh
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> Joaquin-V: depends your idea of 'usefull'
[04:44] <Joaquin-V> just wondering if there's any way in which one would say "oh, I could use xeyes"
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> Joaquin-V: perhaps someone found this real usefull, who knows :p
[04:45] <[Saint]> I like 'sl'
[04:45] <michael_p> hi
[04:46] <michael_p> took me serveral versions on ubuntu to get steam working i have it working under 14.04
[04:48] <mac3lite> Anyone ever have Firefox just not work in Ubuntu? Launch it and it just shows a black page completely?\
[04:49] <michael_p> i use chrome
[05:08] <Archeus_> hey ppl
[05:10] <Archeus_> can someone tell me how to follow the 7th step of http://www.newerth.com/smf/index.php/topic,17598.0.html ?
[05:10] <Archeus_> i have Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller
[05:11] <macopython> Can anyone tell me the location of history command ?. I don't get anything in "which  history"
[05:11] <Wulf> macopython: it's a bash builtin
[05:11] <macopython> Wulf: Ohk. Got it
[05:11] <macopython> So it means I can't modify it. right ?
[05:12] <Wulf> macopython: what are you trying to do and why?
[05:13] <Archeus_> can someone tell me how to follow the 7th step of http://www.newerth.com/smf/index.php/topic,17598.0.html ?
[05:13] <Wulf> Archeus_: no
[05:13] <Archeus_> i have Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller
[05:13] <Archeus_> <-- __Nautilus__ has quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds) atm
[05:13] <Wulf> Archeus_: find a guide for your graphics card
[05:13] <Wulf> Archeus_: and check if you can actually use it for 3d
[05:14] <Archeus_> ah
[05:14] <Archeus_> i dont know anything about my graphic card
[05:14] <macopython> Wulf: Basically I want to create my own history command
[05:14] <macopython> Which can log timestamp too
[05:15] <macopython> I was looking for bash hooks too but didn't find much in that area
[05:15] <Archeus_> should i use this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCrkDJjhw_k ?
[05:16] <Wulf> macopython: why?
[05:16] <Wulf> macopython: is "script" what you're looking for?
[05:17] <macopython> Wulf: yes. I want to view it on browser on some other system and sort it etc
[05:17] <macopython> Wulf: Not exactly a "script"
[05:20] <somsip> macopython: watch the real history file, and create a new entry in your history file with a timestamp when something is add. Libnotify IIRC
[05:21] <somsip> *added, and inotifywait not libnotify
[05:21] <Wulf> somsip: ~/.history is only written when I exit my shell
[05:21] <Wulf> +bash_
[05:22] <somsip> Wulf: so it is. Oh well
[05:22] <somsip> macopython: man history - loads of stuff in there and some of it might be useful
[05:23] <macopython> somsip: Thanks
[05:23] <macopython> Wulf: I'll surely look into libnotify
[05:24] <Tommy2> helllo, how do you get a program to run automatically at startup (it is not in the repo, just from a tar.xz)
[05:24] <Tommy2> i read, that you need to edit "/etc/rc.local"
[05:26] <Tommy2> e.g.  the way i run the FOO program now is:  cd ~/bin/FOO  && sudo ./FOO
[05:28] <plytro> Tommy2: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/202698/how-can-i-run-a-program-as-a-root-user-when-my-ubuntu-15-04-machine-starts-up
[05:29] <plytro> assuming you are a 15.xx or greater
[05:30] <Nene1> hello all
[05:31] <Tommy2> plytro, thanks! do i have to move FOO to this folder? /usr/local/bin/ ?
[05:31] <Ben64> Tommy2: what is foo
[05:31] <Nene1> i updated the kernel on my ubuntu machine, and i didnt reboot the machine. so my machine is still pointing to old kernel... but i want latest kernel version which i applied...
[05:32] <Ben64> Nene1: reboot.
[05:32] <Nene1> how to get it before reboot
[05:32] <Nene1> Ben64: before rebooot****
[05:32] <Tommy2> ben, FOO is just program that i downloaded from a tar.xz
[05:32] <Ben64> Nene1: you need to reboot, that's how it works, you can't boot off a kernel when you're already booted from another kernel
[05:32] <Ben64> Tommy2: right, but what is it
[05:32] <Tommy2> oh, a VPN
[05:33] <Ben64> openvpn or something wouldn't work?
[05:33] <Ben64> kind of weird having to run something as sudo each boot
[05:36] <[Saint]> workaround for not bothering to grab the right group access?
[05:36] <Tommy2> openvpn doesnt work with it.  yeh, i think i read your not supposed to run VPN with sudo, but it needs that to work
[05:36] <Nene1> i can go into ment.lst file and see the available versions.. but i want a single command to get it
[05:37] <Nene1> Ben64 ^^
[05:37] <Ben64> Nene1: what?
[05:39] <plytro> Nene1: if you want to be running the new kernel, you must reboot
[05:39] <somsip> Tommy2: openvpn here with no sudo
[05:39] <plytro> thats it
[05:40] <plytro> openvpn doesn't work for me without sudo
[05:40] <plytro> I just use network manager
[05:40] <plytro> the routes never get established properly if I don't sudo openvpn configfile
[05:40] <Nene1> plytro: yeah i agree... but i just want the kernel version i will get after reboot
[05:40] <plytro> you cant have it
[05:40] <plytro> you can't load it
[05:40] <plytro> it doesn't work that way
[05:41] <plytro> you want to know what it will be?
[05:41] <plytro> or you want to be running it?
[05:41] <plytro> because you can't run it without a reboot
[05:42] <somsip> plytro: Nene1: I'm wrong. I am using sudo...
[05:42] <Guest97273> test
[05:43] <somsip> !test | gustav___
[05:43] <Nene1> plytro: i want to know what version it will be
[05:43] <tak_fate> test
[05:43] <plytro> didn't you watch your install?
[05:44] <Nene1> plytro: i can do that... but i want to take that version with one command and use in my scripy
[05:44] <Nene1> script***
[05:45] <Ben64> Nene1: for what purpose
[05:45] <Nene1> Ben64: to check the pkgs related to that kernel
[05:45] <Ben64> that doesn't make sense
[05:46] <ROldan> HOw i can join to the chanel of spanis support?
[05:46] <Ben64> ROldan: /join #ubuntu-es
[05:49] <plytro> Nene1: check them how?
[05:51] <zjk> Hi, can someone please help understand the aptitude output? I also posted my question here [ http://askubuntu.com/questions/774513/what-does-the-aptitude-why-and-why-not-mean ]
[05:52] <ROldan> HOw can i fix an error in installation of photoshop cc with playonlinux, tells me Error 16
[05:52] <hateball> !wine | ROldan
[05:53] <Ben64> zjk: you should be on 14.04.4
[05:53] <ROldan> ubottu: But not is the same that i run the aplicarion with "Playonlinux"?
[05:54] <Triffid_Hunter> ROldan: pol is a frontend for wine
[05:55] <zjk> @Ben64 Thanks I'll try update
[05:55] <ROldan> Triffid_Hunter: so is the same if i use Wine or POL to install it?
[05:56] <flamsky> Hello everyone
[05:57] <Triffid_Hunter> ROldan: dunno, never tried.. I don't use POL, but afaik it creates a specific wine setup tailored for each app
[05:57] <plytro> Nene1: ls -rt /boot/vmlinuz*|tail -1|grep -Po '\d+'
[05:58] <plytro> there is your most recent kernel version
[05:58] <plytro> not in a great way to use for sure
[05:58] <plytro> but there it is
[05:59] <ROldan> Triffid_Hunter: im gonna try only with wine
[06:00] <PinealGlandOptic> hi everyone! what is the easiest way to open PDF, select several specific pages and export them to another PDF?
[06:01] <Nene1> plytro: thank you.. thats working but kernel version is divided into 4 lines
[06:02] <plytro> you didn't say you wanted it in one line :P
[06:02] <plytro> I really don't understand your use case though
[06:02] <plytro> what is your script doing with other packages?
[06:03] <sailendra> hello there
[06:03] <sailendra> i am having strange problem my swap space is not utilized it shows 0% used even when system ram is 45% utilized
[06:03] <hateball> !info pdftk | PinealGlandOptic
[06:04] <plytro> sailendra: thats a good thing
[06:04] <Ben64> Nene1: it would help a lot more if you explained what exactly you're doing
[06:04] <Female_19> Hello
[06:04] <PinealGlandOptic> ubottu: thanks, going to install it!
[06:04] <Nene1> plytro: Ben64 : i am just checking  linux-image-extra-{kernel} version is installed or not before reboot
[06:05] <plytro> do you not trust apt?
[06:05] <Female_19> I want to install Ubuntu on my mobile phone. Lenovo K3 Note ... How to do?
[06:05] <sailendra> plytro:  sorry for asking stupid question but in what case does it suppose to use my swap
[06:05] <plytro> when you run out of real ram
[06:05] <plytro> !swap
[06:06] <Female_19> khusur phusur
[06:06] <plytro> sailendra: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#Why_is_my_swap_not_being_used.3F
[06:06] <plytro> specifically that
[06:07] <Nene1> plytro: i do... but i want to make sure
[06:07] <plytro> so you dont
[06:08] <plytro> I mean has this burned you or something?
[06:09] <plytro> have you gone through multiple upgrades of kernels where the extra package wasn't installed?
[06:10] <Ben64> here's a silly way to check "dpkg -l | grep linux-image-extra | tail -n1 && dpkg -l | grep linux-image-[3-4] | tail -n1"
[06:10] <sailendra> plytro: thank you it works now i tried to exceed my real ram and swap is used. thank you so much
[06:11] <Stiward> I have a problem to install photoshop cc using wine, someone can help me?
[06:11] <Ben64> Stiward: #winehq
[06:11] <Stiward> Ben64: ?
[06:11] <Ben64> that's where to get help with wine
[06:12] <plytro> 2 people in 20 minutes with the same photoshop cc in wine problem
[06:13] <Ben64> same person
[06:13] <plytro> join/parts hidden
[06:13] <plytro> missed that
[06:17] <zjk> Hi, I'm tring to upgrade from 14.04.2 to 14.04.4.  All I can find about how to achieve this is http://stackoverflow.com/questions/35431143/how-to-update-from-ubuntu-14-04-3-to-14-04-4
[06:17] <plytro> Nene1: diff <(dpkg -l | grep linux-image-extra | tail -n1 |sed -e 's/[a-z].*[a-z]   //g' -e 's/amd.*//g' -e 's/\s*//g') <(dpkg -l | grep linux-image-[3-4] | tail -n1|sed -e 's/[a-z].*[a-z]   //g' -e 's/amd.*//g' -e 's/\s*//g')
[06:17] <zjk> But it seems the stackoverflow question does not have a proper answer
[06:18] <plytro> if $? == 0 then they are both installed
[06:18] <plytro> otherwise no
[06:18] <Stiward> Ben64: anyone helpme there
[06:18] <plytro> Stiward: wine != ubuntu
[06:18] <plytro> go to the wine channel for questions about wine
[06:18] <Ben64> zjk: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:20] <plytro> granted my sed is not the most efficient
[06:20] <plytro> but if you don't know too much about regex, they are simple to parse
[06:20] <Tommy2> Ben64,  HOw do you enable "dist-upgrade" for when you click the "software updater" icon?
[06:21] <Ben64> Tommy2: idk, i like terminal
[06:21] <plytro> !dist-upgrade
[06:21] <Tommy2> in Linux Mint it is just a checkbox,  how do you do it in ubuntu?
[06:21] <Ben64> Tommy2: i think it's on by default
[06:22] <user>  hi all. i faced this issue https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1006838-start-0.html on my freshly 16.04 Xubuntu installation. My system has already (by default) the symbolic link mentioned on this thread (http://pasteboard.co/11gfPQvc.png). Any idea to override this issue?
[06:22] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[06:22] <Tommy2> Ben64,  no it's not, i just tried it right now, and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"  gives me more updates, (while the Icon, gives me none)
[06:22] <Bernard63> Good morning. Yersterday I ran into a boot ptob after mounting a network drive and backing up my system on an external drive.
[06:23] <ubuntu-mate> how do i install updates
[06:23] <brushdemon> sudo apt full-upgrade is a good alternative :)
[06:23] <Bernard63> I am online with LIVE/CD. Need some help.
[06:23] <plytro> Tommy2: IconsPage/info.png Dist-upgrade is the default upgrade method used by Synaptic. To change the upgrade method, choose Preferences from the Settings menu, then click on the General tab and adjust the System upgrade entry.
[06:24] <Ben64> Tommy2: just checked mine, and it includes everything
[06:24] <Bernard63> Boot messages Trying to boot with network connection Wait for another 60 sec. But no booting at all.
[06:24] <ubuntu-mate> im using a usb boot will everything be in place if i exit
[06:26] <Bernard63> Doesn|t look like a bad backup. Because the backup files seem all to be in place on the external harddrive.
[06:26] <plytro> Bernard63: same here
[06:27] <plytro> er
[06:27] <plytro> Ben64: same here
[06:27] <Tommy2> plytro, thanks, my Synaptic says "smart upgrade"  not "dist-upgrade",  but it does include more updates, than the "software-updater" icon.  So how do you get the Software-Updater to do "smart upgrade" or "dist upgrade"?? Ben64
[06:27] <Bernard63> plytro: Bad weather
[06:27] <plytro> Tommy2: what does update-manager say?
[06:27] <Ben64> Tommy2: 'update-manager' does dist-upgrade by default
[06:28] <Tommy2> i am on Xubuntu 16.04
[06:28] <plytro> me too
[06:28] <plytro> I don't even have synaptic
[06:28] <plytro> if you hit alt-f2
[06:28] <plytro> and type update-manager
[06:28] <Tommy2> 'update-manager' runs the same thing as the "software updater" icon.   and it says everything is already up-to-date
[06:29] <plytro> and dist-upgrade from the cli give you more packages?
[06:29] <Tommy2> hmmm, there is a message in the Terminal, i can paste it
[06:30] <Tommy2> plytro, yes, dist-upgrade from the cli give you more packages--- that is my exact question. why?
[06:30] <Ben64> put the output from dist-upgrade into http://paste.ubuntu.com
[06:30] <Bernard63> I mean it is a damn shit problem. I cannot boot my szstem anymore. Can anybodz give me a hand.
[06:31] <plytro> Tommy2: https://i.imgur.com/F6eyNLg.png
[06:32] <Tommy2> https://zerobin.net/?ad4e02db09f21d74#mSmSKNTbmx3Yr7D71lUvZ8FrsQrH/XPXviTC8ZtJ+lo=
[06:32] <plytro> Tommy2: https://i.imgur.com/CTMAheP.png
[06:32] <plytro> same download size
[06:32] <Tommy2> that's what my Terminal says, pastebin
[06:32] <plytro> what does dist-upgrade show in terminal vs the update-manager tool in the gui?
[06:33] <Tommy2> plytro,  https://zerobin.net/?ad4e02db09f21d74#mSmSKNTbmx3Yr7D71lUvZ8FrsQrH/XPXviTC8ZtJ+lo=
[06:33] <Tommy2> plytro,  they both say "already up to date"
[06:33] <plytro> your paste doesn't show a running of dist-upgrade
[06:33] <Tommy2> plytro, ok, one second
[06:37] <Tommy2> https://zerobin.net/?2732470686498e75#WaanzU+MzAf6ozKVpxb+f8xCURhXfb2RZuC9DfqNdAQ=
[06:37] <UbuntuDude> how to make Ubuntu sound notification when the battery charge reaches a specific level?
[06:38] <plytro> Tommy2: so  update manager isn't showing that   accountsservice libaccountsservice0
[06:38] <plytro> need to be upgraded?
[06:38] <Ben64> Tommy2: thats not a dist-upgrade thing
[06:38] <plytro> all those other ones are flagged for removal
[06:38] <Nene1> plytro: Ben64 : thank you for your help
[06:38] <plytro> not upgrades
[06:39] <Tommy2> plytro, Exactly  "accountsservice libaccountsservice0"
[06:39] <plytro> get a screenshot of update-manager
[06:39] <plytro> the gui
[06:39] <Nene1> finally i am using this command ---> "ls -rt  vmlinuz* | tail -1 | grep -P '\d+'| cut -d '-' -f2-"
[06:40] <kalenpw> UbuntuDude: You can write a script similair to the one linked here but with a sound instead of a notification and when volume reaches a higher level http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/60778/how-can-i-get-an-alert-when-my-battery-is-about-to-die-in-linux-mint
[06:40] <Tommy2> plytro, it says "The software on this computer is up to date."  - do you need a screenshot of that?
[06:40] <Tommy2> the gui
[06:41] <plytro> Nene1: with mine you can just do it with one command
[06:41] <plytro> almost no script needed
[06:41] <Nene1> yeah
[06:41] <ubuntu-mate_> hello
[06:42] <Ben64> idk, my command is the best
[06:42] <ubuntu-mate_> can someone help me
[06:42] <kalenpw> How can I make it so I don't see join/ quit messages in irssi? I used the following: /ignore #xkcd-signal MODES JOINS PARTS QUITS and still get notifications
[06:42] <Ben64> ubuntu-mate_: not until you ask a question
[06:43] <plytro> if [ $(my big command) ]; then reboot; fi
[06:43] <ubuntu-mate_> My question is I am installing ubuntu mate from a usb and currently have windows. In the installation process, it is telling me to either upgrade my old ubuntu or erase disk
[06:43] <somsip> kalenpw: you've only turned them off for #xkcd-signal channel. Replace that with the cannel you want to ignore them for
[06:43] <ubuntu-mate_> i dont want to lose windows
[06:44] <kalenpw> How can I make it so I don't see join/ quit messages in irssi? I used the following: /ignore #ubuntu MODES JOINS PARTS QUITS and still get notifications
[06:44] <Ben64> ubuntu-mate_: what do you want
[06:44] <ubuntu-mate_> how should i go about this ?
[06:44] <kalenpw> oops didn't mean to repost sorry bout that thanks! didn't even realize that new to irc and just copied the command
[06:44] <ubuntu-mate_> i want to leave windows untouched but replace thi new ubuntu with my old one
[06:44] <Ben64> ubuntu-mate_: you should be able to choose "something else"
[06:44] <ubuntu-mate_> ok where do i go from there
[06:45] <Tommy2> plytro, is it okay to autoremove those "flagged for removal packages" even if i run programs from TAR.XZ?
[06:45] <Ben64> format the partition(s) you want to replace with ubuntu, and set the mountpoint(s) for them
[06:45] <ubuntu-mate_> or should i press the button that says to erase ubuntu 14.04 and reinstall
[06:45] <ubuntu-mate_> will that reinstall mate?
[06:45] <Ben64> yes
[06:46] <ubuntu-mate_> so it will install mate instead of the old ubuntu correct?
[06:46] <Ben64> if you have ubuntu mate dvd/usb in....yes
[06:46] <de-facto> ubuntu-mate_ in "something else" you can choose your old ubuntu disk (which will be overwritten, as root "/", check format on this). Also if you have a separate swap or home you can choose to use it in "Something else.." for your new installation
[06:46] <Tommy2> ubuntu-mate_,  the easy solution is to get a second HDD/SSD for ubuntu, or even just a flash drive
[06:47] <ubuntu-mate_> ok thank you very much guys
[06:47] <Tommy2> ubuntu-mate_,  i have never "dual booted"  HDD's are cheap nowadays
[06:47] <de-facto> ubuntu-mate_ i meant "old ubuntu partition" on your disk. all those are partitions on your disk
[06:48] <Tommy2> ubuntu-mate_, .. and then eventually you won't need Windows anymore, anyway  :)
[06:48] <ubuntu-mate_> thanks tommy
[06:49] <Archeus_> how to resolve this Dependency is not satisfiable: libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.16.2)
[06:50] <Tommy2> plytro, any ideas on my dist-upgrade problem?
[06:51] <Ben64> Tommy2: the updates you see on command line aren't important, so they aren't immediately shown by update-manager by default
[06:51] <Archeus_> how to resolve Dependency is not satisfiable: libgtk-3-0 (>= 3.16.2) ?
[06:52] <Tommy2> Ben64, i know, so how do i get the update-manager to do the "unimportant" upgrades?
[06:52] <gde33> My desktop icons have arranged themselves above my monitor. Is there some way to move them?
[06:52] <Ben64> Tommy2: did you look in the settings
[06:53] <Tommy2> Ben64, the synaptic settings only affect -> synaptic
[06:53] <Ben64> i didn't say synaptic
[06:54] <Tommy2> the "software & updates" settings, i'm there now.  i dont see a "dist upgrade' or "smart upgrade" option.  (like you do in Linux Mint)
[06:54] <Ben64> what do you see
[06:54] <Tommy2> Ben64,  all the repo choices
[06:55] <gde33> is there a way to move desktop icons with the keyboard?
[06:56] <de-facto> gde33 i dont think so, you can maybe move the selection  though, which DE are you using?
[06:57] <ubuntu-mate_> does ubuntu mate 16.04 automatically come with FireJail?
[06:58] <Guest4> how is ubuntu 14.04 vs. 16.04
[06:58] <gde33> de-facto: I selected the ones outside the screen with the arrow keys, added a visible one with ctrl click then dragged them into the view port :)
[06:58] <McLight> Any opinions on the two distros
[06:58] <McLight> or versions I should say
[07:01] <YankDownUnder> McLight, If you truly think about "release date" and all that follows a "release", the 16.04 release, in about say six months time, will be solid as a rock...and I state this out of pure reality, nothing more. Therefore, it would depend on what you wish to use your installation for...
[07:01] <McLight> Yeah that's what I was thinking
[07:01] <McLight> I'll wait
[07:02] <YankDownUnder> It's been like that from the beginning, and it's like that now - so nothing changes, hmm?
[07:02] <YankDownUnder> McLight, Is it a "critical" installation, bro?
[07:02] <McLight> no
[07:03] <McLight> just a alternative to winblowz
[07:03] <YankDownUnder> McLight, Right...so if it's not critical, then you can experiment...but you know where I'm going with that...
[07:03] <McLight> yeah when I first installed 14.04 right after release transmission wouldn't work
[07:04] <McLight> I've matured I don't need bleeding edge
[07:04] <de-facto> gde33 clever :)
[07:04] <YankDownUnder> McLight, In comparison to MS Windows, I shall tell you this: In the past several weeks, "Die Hard" Windows users that are clients of mine literally, after seeing a machine being booted off a USB - and seeing a laptop that I have - running Ubu - just switched right then and there...and several more are coming aboard...
[07:04] <McLight> you might not like this....
[07:04] <McLight> but my fav is OS X
[07:05] <McLight> built on freebsd
[07:05] <YankDownUnder> McLight, 16.04 ain't really "bleeding edge" - for that, use Fedora...however, 16.04 is solid enough right now...and very usable...
[07:06] <YankDownUnder> McLight, The machine next to me is OSX...just upgraded to 10.11.5 as of this arvo...but that's for a different channel...
[07:06] <Ace0> hi
[07:06] <YankDownUnder> McLight, The folks that I migrated have been ecstatic about the change, the speed...and using vbox for their "Outlook" running seamlessly, well, it's a "shoo in"
[07:06] <Ace0><PHONE_NUMBER>101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101
[07:08] <McLight> YankDownUnder which version of Ubuntu do you use xfce, unity, mate, cinnamon you get the idea
[07:08] <Ace0><PHONE_NUMBER>10100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101020101010101010101010101010001010110101010101000101001001
[07:08] <Ace0><PHONE_NUMBER>10101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101010201010101010101010101010100010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100
[07:08] <Ace0><PHONE_NUMBER>10101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010102010101010101010101010101000101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001
[07:08] <Ben64> Ace0: stop.
[07:08] <Ace0><PHONE_NUMBER>01011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101020101010101010101010101010001010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101
[07:08] <Ace0><PHONE_NUMBER>01010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101010201010101010101010101010100010101101010101010001010010010101011010101010100010100100101010110101010101000101001001010101101010101010001010010010101011010101
[07:09] <YankDownUnder> Right...that was NOT interesting...
[07:10] <McLight> YankDownUnder which version of Ubuntu do you use xfce, unity, mate, cinnamon you get the idea
[07:12] <YankDownUnder> McLight, Tell ya, bro, I used to LOVE Gnome 1.4.6...way back when...and that being the case, my FAVE is "Mate" - however, I don't really care about much of anything other than usage and speed...so, XFCE is my choice for when I'm doing "virtualisation" related stuff...or other support related stuff...because it's just fast, nothing gets in my way, and it's, well, fast...otherwise, I stick to Mate...sometimes Cinnamon...but mostly
[07:12] <YankDownUnder> Mate.
[07:12] <radicate> I'm trying to apt-get install some package and it complains about not being able to install a package I tried to install a few days ago?
[07:13] <radicate> How do I get out of this mess? ;o
[07:14] <YankDownUnder> radicate, If you explain with a bit more detail, that might help...
[07:14] <Mathisen> radicate, easyer for someone to help you if you paste the output...
[07:14] <Mathisen> radicate, in a pastebin ofc not in chan
[07:16] <radicate> http://pastebin.com/7fLXV3SJ
[07:19] <YankDownUnder> radicate, Have you tried to "sudo apt-get remove build-essentials" => and then re-install it?
[07:19] <somsip> radicate: do you want libssh2-php?
[07:20] <radicate> YankDownUnder: Nope, but why would it matter? it doesn't even seem to try installing it, only complains about a package I've given up on due to failure installing
[07:20] <somsip> radicate: there is a script trying to access a command that does not exists. IME, delete the post install script at /var/lib/dpkg/info/libssh2-php.postinst and remove it again. It may leave artifacts elsewhere though
[07:21] <YankDownUnder> radicate, I'm merely trying to offer a logical resolution. It would be a safe ideology to remove a package, then re-install a package to see if the error persists. Quite simple logic, nothing to do with abstract thinking.
[07:21] <somsip> radicate: or edit that file to delete the call to php5enmod, then it might clean up everything else too
[07:27] <zjk> After sudo apt-get dist-upgrade /etc/issue still shows me 14.04.2
[07:27] <zjk> Should I be expecting to see 14.04.4?
[07:28] <Ben64> zjk: yes. what kernel are you running? (uname -a)
[07:28] <zjk> Linux TP 3.16.0-71-generic #92~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Thu May 12 23:31:46 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[07:28] <k1l_> zjk: did you run "sudo apt update" before?
[07:29] <zjk> Not so sure. I think I do have done that
[07:29] <Ben64> oh, you're on the 14.10 kernel
[07:29] <k1l_> then run "sudo apt update && sudo aot full-upgrade" to make sure :)
[07:31] <zjk> E: Invalid operation full-upgrade
[07:31] <Ben64> apt, not apt-get
[07:31] <k1l_> just "apt" not "apt-get" :)
[07:31] <zjk> Oh I see...
[07:32] <zjk> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:32] <zjk> I have this feeling that my system is a mess already
[07:33] <Cursed_God> zjk: run : sudo do-release-upgrade
[07:33] <Ben64> no
[07:33] <k1l_> Cursed_God: no. that is bad advice.
[07:34] <zjk> My main goal is to install libdbus-1-3:i386
[07:34] <zjk> So I can use teamviewer
[07:34] <Cursed_God> k1l_: why?
[07:35] <k1l_> zjk: can you run this and show the url "grep ^ /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999"
[07:35] <YankDownUnder> Official upgrade path: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes
[07:35] <zjk> http://termbin.com/f9dy
[07:35] <k1l_> Cursed_God: the do-release-upgrade command is used to change the ubuntu release version from 14.04 to 14.10 or from 14.04 to 16.04.
[07:36] <zjk> Wow I thought I deleted ia32-libs-raring.list
[07:36] <k1l_> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ia32-libs-raring.list:deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring main restricted universe multiverse
[07:37] <k1l_> i would remove this at first
[07:37] <zjk> `nc termbin.com` really cool
[07:39] <zjk> done that
[07:40] <Nolt> hi
[07:40] <k1l_> zjk: what is the issue with libdbus-1-3 now?
[07:42] <zjk> k1l_: http://termbin.com/cn7e
[07:42] <zjk> I also asked this question here [ http://askubuntu.com/questions/774513/what-does-the-aptitude-why-and-why-not-mean ]
[07:42] <k1l_> zjk: why  force the 32bit version?
[07:43] <zjk> I wanted to use teamviewer. it required the 32-bit version
[07:44] <zjk> http://termbin.com/um3k
[07:44] <YankDownUnder> zjk, Don't suppose using the Chrome remote desktop (free)(64bit) works for ya, hmm?
[07:45] <zjk> YankDownUnder: didn't know about it I'll try that
[07:45] <k1l_> zjk: are you sure its a package for ubuntu? it lists "yum" in that output
[07:46] <YankDownUnder> zjk, Yeah bro...it's kinda free...kinda easy to use...kinda works with any/every platform...and free...did I mention it was free? Oh yeah, it's free.
[07:46] <zjk> k1l_: the part above the yum was supposed to show apt-get, somehow it is broken
[07:47] <k1l_> zjk: teamviewer gives out .deb packages
[07:47] <k1l_> zjk: http://www.teamviewer.com/de/download/linux/
[07:47] <zjk> I tried. same issue. libc6:i386 required
[07:49] <k1l_> zjk: "sudo apt-get purge teamviewer; sudo apt-get purge teamviewer:i386; sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install libasound2:i386 libfontconfig1:i386 libfreetype6:i386 libjpeg62:i386 libpng12-0:i386 libsm6:i386 libxrandr2:i386 libxrender1:i386 libxtst6:i386 libxinerama1:i386; wget --continue 'http://download.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_i386.deb'; sudo dpkg -i teamviewer_i386.deb; sudo apt-get install -f "
[07:49] <de-facto> zjk btw if you just need to broadcast your sceeen you also can use something like https://meet.jit.si  with chromium-browser and that tiny js extension it automatically installs for sharing your screen (but no remote control). it also provides group video/text/editing and such
[07:49] <nocturn> Hi, I have an issue with Libreoffice impress on Ubuntu 16.04, it does not happen on the same version of libreoffice on 14.04.
[07:49] <k1l_> teamviewer is one of the typical prop. programs that need your system to become a mess. its even not native program, its running in wine.
[07:49] <Cursed_God> i installed unity to 16.04 gnome but its missing from unity greeter https://gist.github.com/c8be5f4d90ce1916ec80a02bb7c7f602 ; https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c0194d9b8618b141d78a75736384404f
[07:50] <nocturn> when copying, inserting or saving slides, the soffice.bin process takes a lot of CPU, making impress unusable
[07:50] <YankDownUnder> ...hence the usage of something nice and free like Chrome Remote Desktop...
[07:50] <zjk> de-facto
[07:50] <zjk> de-facto
[07:50] <zjk> de-facto: thanks I'll keep a note
[07:50] <YankDownUnder> (it's free)
[07:51] <mrbeans> who am i?pwd
[07:52] <dota> a
[07:52] <de-facto> zjk its all open source you even could run that on your own server (its based on java video selective forwarding unit, xmpp server and several extensions to that). client side is pure JS/WebRTC with that tiny extension for screen sharing https://github.com/jitsi/jitsi-meet
[07:52] <dota> ^^
[07:52] <zjk> k1l_: http://termbin.com/loqa
[07:53] <zjk> still the libc6:i386 issue
[07:53] <k1l_> zjk: "sudo apt install libc6:i386"   see why its blocked
[07:53] <zjk> libc6:i386 : Depends: libgcc1:i386 but it is not going to be installed
[07:54] <zjk> if I do "sudo apt-get install libgcc1:i386" it outputs a lot info
[07:54] <de-facto> hmm is that system already multiarch or woudl he need to enable i386 in dpkg maybe?
[07:54] <k1l_> zjk: show that
[07:55] <zjk> http://termbin.com/dq9p
[07:55] <Dumle29> So if I'm having issues with dropbox?
[07:55] <Dumle29> I can't get it to start
[07:56] <zjk> cat /var/lib/dpkg/arch
[07:56] <k1l_> zjk: welcome to the non-multiarch mess
[07:57] <zjk> amd64 and i386 both there
[07:57] <zjk> So is it holeless?
[07:57] <zjk> hopeless?
[07:57] <k1l_> zjk: this is wrong. it wants to remove the whole system.
[07:58] <zjk> The reason I want to use teamviewer is that I want to debug webrtc
[07:58] <k1l_> zjk: i dont know where that bad depencies come from. maybe from using that old raring repo
[07:59] <de-facto> zjk what does "dpkg  --print-foreign-architectures" print you out?
[07:59] <zjk> i386
[08:00] <de-facto> hmm ok
[08:02] <zjk> I'm giving up. I really appreciate all your help
[08:03] <de-facto> zjk maybe you are interessted in something like https://www.browserling.com
[08:04] <zjk> amazing. It's free
[08:04] <de-facto> time limited though if free
[08:04] <dota> Anyone met such a problem? When I open 2 PDFs with Document Viewer, I can't choose the right window by clicking the launcher button of Document Viewer
[08:05] <azizLIGHT> how do i tell if my middle click on the mouse is working or not
[08:05] <azizLIGHT> trying to middle click things in firefox and nothings happening
[08:05] <azizLIGHT> i can scroll up/down but not middle click
[08:05] <azizLIGHT> any ideas
[08:06] <lyze> azizLIGHT, Enter "xev" into a terminal window
[08:06] <lyze> azizLIGHT, This opens a new small window where you can test keyboard / mouse features. just press the middle mouse button on to that window and see if the console outputs something that it was pressed
[08:06] <YankDownUnder> azizLIGHT, Have you enabled "autoscrolling" in Firefox? If not, you may want to do that...then restart Firefox and try this all over again...
[08:07] <azizLIGHT> lyze: im not seeing any buttonpress or buttonrelease event for the middle mouse button, but i can see them for the left/right clicks
[08:07] <azizLIGHT> YankDownUnder: yeah i checked that setting, i always had it enabled
[08:08] <lyze> azizLIGHT, then your button doesn't work
[08:08] <azizLIGHT> so my middle mouse really is not working, physically, hardware wise...?
[08:08] <azizLIGHT> oh no
[08:08] <de-facto> zjk also in the past i liked to use VNC via HTML5 like https://kanaka.github.io/noVNC/ and X11VNC/TigerVNC/RealVNC or such, also if the target is linux i can recommend somthing like http://wiki.x2go.org/doku.php
[08:09] <azizLIGHT> ok its working after i turned the mouse on/off
[08:09] <azizLIGHT> weird
[08:10] <YankDownUnder> azizLIGHT, Try this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2092090
[08:12] <zjk> de-facto: I'll try that.  It's not just failing to install teamviewer make me come here. It's my ignorance about how the package system works annoys me. It still seems a mystery to me why libc6:i386 failed to install
[08:13] <de-facto> zjk or even windows remote desktop/VNC or such if you use windows on the target and use remmina to connect to that from linux client. i guess you also might be able to tunnel that over ssh or vpn or such
[08:15] <zjk> de-facto: Yearh I do use windows at the other end
[08:16] <zoe__> Hi! How can I create a shortcut to create new file in Nautilus please ?
[08:16] <de-facto> zjk is it in the same network behind a NAT or does the connection go over the internet?
[08:17] <zoe__> Is "touch filename.txt" a good command to do that ?
[08:17] <zoe__> (in the shortcuts creator)
[08:18] <YankDownUnder> zoe__, Could do
[08:18] <de-facto> zoe__ you can create some in ~/Templates and then right click in nautilus to use those templates
[08:18] <zjk> de-facto: different NAT. one at my office, one at my home. I didn't apply for a company VPN. Since my office has faster internet, I'll trying to use that at home
[08:21] <de-facto> zjk hmm but then the limiting factor still is your home internet i guess, if you get vpn from your company you might be able to just use windows remote desktop protocol from your home linux client (dial in via vpn, then you are behind the company NAT and should be able to connect with remmina or rdesktop i guess)
[08:22] <Cursed_God> hi i installed unity to 16.04 gnome but its missing from unity greeter https://gist.github.com/c8be5f4d90ce1916ec80a02bb7c7f602 ; https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c0194d9b8618b141d78a75736384404f
[08:23] <tables> how do i change hostname in my terminal?
[08:23] <tables> user@host
[08:23] <tables> how can i even put a fake one on there?
[08:23] <SwedeMike> tables: http://askubuntu.com/questions/9540/how-do-i-change-the-computer-name
[08:24] <zjk> de-facto: My home Internet do okay within China. But I use a proxy in google cloud which is faster connected in my office
[08:24] <de-facto> tables ~/.bashrc the variable for your prompt is PS1
[08:25] <de-facto> but that does not change your hostname systemwide
[08:25] <sjmulder> hi all. I’ve seen the packaging guide but left wondering what I am to do if I want to have a straightforward command line tool included in the ubuntu apt repository
[08:26] <sjmulder> do I have to build packages myself for LTS and current flavours of Ubuntu and/or Debian or are there maintainers with a bit more experience who take up such small packages?
[08:26] <de-facto> tables after you changed that you need to source it like ". ~/.bashrc"
[08:29] <de-facto> sjmulder can you be more specific about what you want to achieve? there are ppa's with many packages provided by third party packagers, if you find a "debian" dir for your package you can build it yourself with "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc" and install that with dpkg or gdebi
[08:29] <mcphail> sjmulder: You, or someone else, will need to become a package maintainer, get it onto Debian, and continue to maintain the package in the long term. It is a big commitment
[08:30] <mcphail> sjmulder: If you don't want to take on that level of responsibility, have a look to see if snappy meetes your needs
[08:31] <rilleh> I'm having issues with iTerm2 shell integration and Ubuntu, anyone here that have got it to work?
[08:31] <rilleh> It works on my Mac
[08:32] <sjmulder> de-facto: I have a simple but useful program which is finished & tagged 1.0.0 on GitHub. I want other people to be able to install it easily in Ubuntu
[08:32] <rilleh> Nevermind, I found the problem
[08:32] <rilleh> tmux :(
[08:33] <sjmulder> de-facto: ideally if there is a team of people who do such things I’d be happy to have them maintain the packaging, otherwise I have no issue tacking it up myself
[08:33] <sjmulder> mcphail: thanks for the explanation and tip there, I’ll have a look at snappy
[08:34] <asdffff> irc channel for history?
[08:34] <de-facto> you can setup a ppa or even your own hosted repo (on your server somewhere). maybe #ubuntu-devel and #ubuntu-packaging can help you with that? not sure
[08:34] <de-facto> sjmulder ^^
[08:36] <sjmulder> de-facto: that's one option, but Debian/Ubuntu packaging looks like an art in itself. I’ll hang around on that channel for a bit
[08:36] <de-facto> sjmulder there is also https://build.opensuse.org/ if you want to support more distros (thats not debian specific), but i guess you have to do it on your own or find someone who maintains it for you
[08:37] <sjmulder> oh that is awesome! I was hoping such a thing existed
[08:38] <de-facto> sjmulder but it doesnt provide the standard debian packaging i think (not entirely sure) and might use something different to "debian" dir, hence maybe not provide .debs in such high quality than debian/ubuntu specific ways
[08:39] <sjmulder> de-facto: I see. but just knowing it’ll build and run cleanly on all these distros is great
[08:39] <barabasi> hi guys, anyone own a chromebook? I'm running ubuntu trusty and I'm kinda stuck on a step of installing rstudio
[08:40] <de-facto> sjmulder maybe it uses something like https://cmake.org/Wiki/CMake:Packaging_With_CPack  but that almost might tend to offtopic i fear
[08:42] <mcphail> sjmulder: to be honest, if you provide repo access and release tarballs using a sensible build system (automake/cmake/whatever), someone is likely to package it if it is useful enough
[08:43] <sobersabre> hi. I'm trying to connect a maching to ad using: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/sssd-ad.html
[08:43] <sobersabre> I think everything worked ok, except that it doesn't work :)
[08:43] <sobersabre> I have smbd, nmbd up, I have sssd up, and ntpd is up.
[08:43] <sjmulder> mcphail: it’s this: https://github.com/sjmulder/json-yaml useful for a very specific audience. I use it for getting readable output from web API's w/ curl myself
[08:43] <sobersabre> But getent passwd user doesn't work.
[08:43] <sjmulder> I don't think it's really interesting enough that someone will pick it up on their own
[08:43] <sobersabre> I might have installed something that I shouldn't and it clashes. can somebody help ?
[08:46] <sjmulder> sobersabre: how did you install it?
[08:50] <de-facto> sjmulder if you want a full development build system you also might be interessted in using something like jenkins/tuleap or such
[08:50] <Qwertie> Should this be marked as confirmed because I found a driver that fixes the problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1550905
[08:51] <sjmulder> de-facto: yeah. I was planning to set up something like that with maybe some Docker images/VMs/that Debian tool for various distros that I can use for future projects too
[08:51] <sobersabre> sjmulder: what do you mean by "it" ?
[08:51] <mcphail> sjmulder: looks useful. It would, probably, benefit from a simple automake conversion with some pkg-config checks for your dependent libraries. The debian packaging process can use that automatically
[08:52] <researcher123> after recent updates on ubuntu 14.04 my pc fails to recogniseModem. Wht should I do? PLEASE HELP ME
[08:52] <sjmulder> sobersabre: the thing you installed. was it a package, an installer?
[08:53] <researcher123> it was updated by automatic update
[08:53] <sobersabre> sjmulder: I used only packages, initially I've installed an ldap client, after it worked, I went to google, and then read the aforementioned official howto and followed it to the letter.
[08:54] <sobersabre> I've not ran: net ads join -k -d7 and collected the output, I see some errors I haven't seen before.
[08:54] <sobersabre> sjmulder: ^^^^
[08:54] <sobersabre> sjmulder: e.g.: pdb_create_builtin_alias: Could not get a gid out of winbind
[08:54] <researcher123> how to uninstall recent automatic updates?
[08:55] <somsip> researcher123: look in /var/log/apt/history.log and remove them.
[08:55] <YankDownUnder> sobersabre, I'm merely observing this conversation...what is the aim...you're connecting a workstation to an AD server, yes? Just wondering, bro.
[08:55] <researcher123> thanks somsip , I will try
[08:55] <sobersabre> researcher123: you would need to install previous version. you can extract that by analyzing the file somsip suggested... but there's no convenience "uninstall previous update" button.
[08:56] <sobersabre> researcher123: you can have a procedure of snapshotting/backing up the system before an update. then you just roll back.
[08:56] <researcher123> sobersabre: how do I install previous version?
[08:57] <somsip> researcher123: now that's the difficulty...
[08:57] <researcher123> sobersabre: is it to be installed by bootable pen drive previously created?
[08:57] <sobersabre> researcher123: depends on the pacakge. some packages you can reinstall: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138284/how-to-downgrade-a-package-via-apt-get
[08:57] <de-facto> researcher123 the previous versions might be still sitting in /var/cache/apt/archives/  but if you want future updates id recommend find out what went wrong with your updated versions
[08:57] <researcher123> sobersabre: ok.thanks
[08:57] <sobersabre> researcher123: but for some packages it's not so easy, e.g. if you upgraded the kernel package and removed previous one...
[08:58] <sobersabre> and if you have some proprietary drivers lying around...
[08:58] <sobersabre> YankDownUnder: you are correct.
[08:58] <de-facto> researcher123 you also easily can choose different package versions and pin versions in GUI with synaptic btw
[08:58] <researcher123> de-facto: thanks
[08:58] <sobersabre> researcher123: de-facto: "easily" is a relative term
[08:59] <researcher123> hmm
[08:59] <de-facto> yeah ofc whats not ? :P
[08:59] <sobersabre> if it is easy to you to dig docs for every step you make, and you're unfamiliar, and you have unbound amount of time for this game, you're ok.
[08:59] <researcher123> limited time and not much familiarwith docs
[09:00] <sobersabre> researcher123: try stack-exchange and stuff....
[09:00] <researcher123> whats that
[09:00] <sobersabre> but validate the dates are recent to your version.
[09:00] <sobersabre> researcher123: if you don't know what's stackexchange, you're in deep shite...
[09:00] <slima> Hello, I have problem with startup apps in sequence, I have bind9 and mysql; bind9 require mysql to start. So I added in /etc/init.d/bind9 # Should-Start:      $network $syslog $mysql next I did update-rc.d bind9 defaults
[09:00] <slima> but after reboot, bind9 wont start
[09:00] <researcher123> i can't connect to internet
[09:01] <sobersabre> sjmulder: so ... I was kinda hoping you're familiar with the matter of the subject....
[09:01] <researcher123> i will try reinstall
[09:01] <researcher123> hat i can do correctly
[09:01] <sjmulder> sobersabre: I’m afraid not - it sounded like you installed the wrong package and maybe needed only apt-get remove or such but it's a fair bit more complicated than that, ha
[09:02] <de-facto> researcher123 dont forget backup though (even if you dont plan reinstall ;)
[09:02] <researcher123> hmmm
[09:02] <researcher123> i have my backup
[09:02] <researcher123> thanks for the care
[09:08] <mkings> whois chu
[09:08] <Cursed_God> hi i installed unity to 16.04 gnome but its missing from unity greeter https://gist.github.com/c8be5f4d90ce1916ec80a02bb7c7f602 ; https://gist.github.com/anonymous/c0194d9b8618b141d78a75736384404f
[09:09] <ubuntu-mate_> hello duded i have a question. iam new on linux system. i have bootubuntu mate from usbstick. i want use mate onlz from usbdriv must be i installed on it or when i onlz run ubuntu mate from usbdrive save all file and settings
[09:09] <ubuntu-mate_> greey from germanz
[09:10] <auronandace|work> !usb | ubuntu-mate_
[09:10] <bazhang> ubuntu-mate_, is the usb persistent or not
[09:12] <de-facto> ubuntu-mate_ how did you install ubuntu mate on your usb thumb drive?
[09:12] <ubuntu-mate_> i have installed the ubuntumate.iso on usb drive and i have *only run from usb drive / i want to install on usbdrive for all datas and new programs
[09:13] <bazhang> ubuntu-mate_, so it's live, not persistent
[09:13] <bazhang> !usb | ubuntu-mate_
[09:14] <ubuntu-mate_> ok also i must run iso from antoher usb drive to install it on this one right
[09:14] <auronandace|work> ubuntu-mate_: or a livecd yes
[09:15] <de-facto> ubuntu-mate_ you also can run it entirely within RAM i think
[09:15] <ubuntu-mate_> hmpf... okay right i think i isntaled on cd thanks see u
[09:15] <ubuntu-mate_> better tahn win10
[09:15] <ubuntu-mate_> greez leminsc8
[09:17] <weihhh> hello
[09:17] <de-facto> its the "toram" parameter added in grub to the kernel cmdline, but he left already, oh well
[09:18] <ccopland> exit
[09:18] <ccopland> quit
[09:18] <ccopland> quit
[09:26] <RavinduL> Hi! How do I enable the default mouse & touchpad driver on Ubuntu 15.10? I uninstalled the Synaptics driver (which I installed) because it didn't scroll properly with `sudo apt-get purge synaptik*`
[09:26] <RavinduL> Now my touchpad doesn't work
[09:26] <RavinduL> How would I re-enable the default driver that's pre-installed in Ubuntu>
[09:26] <RavinduL> `xinput list` shows my touchpad
[09:27] <Xano> I have a Lenovo Bluetooth Keyboard (model KT-1255) on Ubuntu 15.10. It worked until yesterday. I assumed it stopped working because the batteries are empty, so I charged it. However, I can no longer find it when scanning for Bluetooth devices in Ubuntu. Many other devices appear, and the keyboard's light indicate it is searching for a connection. I'd he grateful for some tips on how to debug this, as I do not know where to start.
[09:28] <Xano> I did run all updates this week, so maybe that introduced new incompatibilities.
[09:32] <de-facto> RavinduL maybe with something like "sudo apt install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics", but that depends on what you deinstalled i guess
[09:35] <RavinduL> de-facto, What I uninstalled was the synaptics touchpad driver from http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/synaptiks/kde-config-touchpad_0.8.1-2_all.deb
[09:40] <nohitall> I am having an issue with eth0 and a bridge, I configured bridge ports eth0, but after network restart eth0 still has the IP and routing table has double entries for eth0 and br0, I tried ifdown/ifup eth0 but no changes, anybody got an idea? ubuntu 15.04
[09:47] <Fleuv> Hi there, I'm trying to hook up a "samsung syncmaster 225mw" via HDMI and it does connect but it just works horrible. For example I cant click on spot I want to click; the displacement is not in sync with it's real coordinates. The display size is somewhat bigger than the screen size. These errors have been popping up when poking around in the display setting: "could not set the configuration for CRTC 700", "GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.Unmap
[09:47] <Fleuv> pedGError.Quark._gsd_2drr_2derror_2dquark.Code2: could not set the configuration for CRTC 700"
[09:54] <anonymous_> sup people :P
[09:56] <anonymous_> anybody here that can help me...
[09:56] <Ben64> not until you ask a question
[09:56] <Fleuv> same for me :D
[09:56] <anonymous_> lol
[09:56] <akis>  hi all. i faced this issue https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1006838-start-0.html on my freshly 16.04 installation. My system has already (by default) the symbolic link mentioned on this thread (http://pasteboard.co/11gfPQvc.png). I have to mention that thunar-archive-plugin can extract files but it cannot make new archives.Any idea to override this issue?
[09:57] <anonymous_> why cant i move the windows on ubuntu if i plugin a mouse but whn i unpplug it it works fine again
[09:57] <alkisg> akis, if you're having an issue with xfce, why not ask in #xubuntu?
[09:58] <anonymous_> ?
[09:58] <anonymous_> xubuntu?
[09:58] <akis> alkisg: i asked in #xubuntu too. are you Greek?
[09:58] <alkisg> Yup :)
[09:58] <anonymous_> what ya guys talking about
[09:59] <akis> alkisg: I am too. Are you writing from Greece too?
[09:59] <alkisg> Yup
[09:59] <alkisg> There's also #ubuntu-gr if you want to chat in Greek
[10:00] <anonymous_> just help me somebody
[10:00] <anonymous_> why cant i move the windows on ubuntu if i plugin a mouse but whn i unpplug it it works fine again
[10:00] <anonymous_> please
[10:00] <anonymous_> somebody its pissing me off i cant play steam games without a ,mouse
[10:00] <uwe> greetings, I'm reciving a warning of google that my browser (chromium) is outdated and that i should upgrade to stay secure, but apt-get install chromium-browsers says: The following extra packages will be installed: chromium-browse > then quits gracefully !!!
[10:00] <akis> alkisg: Me too. Athens. Do you have any idea on this issue? Its the 1st time i face it. there was no problem with previous distros. And as fas i see everything seem ok on the system.
[10:01] <Ben64> anonymous_: your question doesn't make a lot of sense
[10:01] <alkisg> akis, I'm not using xfce
[10:01] <anonymous_> Ben10 if i plug in a mouse all windows freeze and i cant move maximize or minimize them but when i unplug it and use the build in mouse pad every thing works fine you got it now? ):
[10:01] <uwe> sorry for the typos, its all chromium-browser ... and its not installing AND failing to tell me why ... :/
[10:02] <akis> alkisg: ok, no probl, i went to #ubuntu-gr too to ask about it. Καλημέρα.
[10:02] <alkisg> Καλημέρα :)
[10:03] <Ben64> anonymous_: is the mouse good
[10:03] <RavinduL> Hi! I installed the Synaptics touchpad driver according to the question at http://askubuntu.com/questions/453876/how-to-install-synaptiks-on-touchpad-on-ubuntu-14-04 How would I enable natural (reverse) scrolling for it?
[10:03] <anonymous_> yes it works on windows
[10:03] <anonymous_> its a gaming mouse
[10:03] <anonymous_> no software needed
[10:03] <anonymous_> ben64
[10:04] <Ben64> maybe try a different one
[10:05] <Glenn> How can I setup multiple WLAN
[10:07] <anonymous_> ok ty
[10:07] <zetheroo> I have a 250G SSD in my laptop running 16.04, and then I see this:
[10:07] <zetheroo> -rw-rw-r-- 1 root utmp 518G Apr 27 16:40 /var/log/lastlog
[10:07] <zetheroo> How is this possible? :D
[10:07] <Habbie> zetheroo, du -hs /var/log/lastlog
[10:08] <zetheroo> that gives: 44K	/var/log/lastlog
[10:08] <Habbie> that's the actual size it uses
[10:08] <zetheroo> makes more sense ...
[10:08] <delf_> ahoi! i need help setting up gpg: i'm trying to add a keyserver in kleopatra, but if i click "apply" or "ok", the dialog closes but the keyserver-entry is not saved...any ideas?
[10:08] <zetheroo> but why the crazy output with ll -h ?
[10:08] <Habbie> do you have a user with a very high userid?
[10:08] <Habbie> zetheroo,
[10:09] <alkisg> zetheroo: it's called "sparse file", google it for definition
[10:09] <zetheroo> hmm .... how do I see my uid again?
[10:09] <Habbie> indeed
[10:09] <Habbie> zetheroo, 'id'
[10:09] <Habbie> some explanation here https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=192560
[10:09] <zetheroo> uid=1902118133
[10:09] <zetheroo> :)
[10:09] <Habbie> that's high
[10:09] <Habbie> so what happens is that to store last login information for you
[10:09] <zetheroo> I guess because I am logging into AD
[10:10] <Habbie> the lastlog file needs to grow to accomodate all UIDs between zero and yours
[10:10] <Habbie> luckily the kernel will 'fake up' these gigabytes of zeroes
[10:10] <Glenn> How to find the ssid by command line
[10:10] <Habbie> with what, indeed, is called a sparse file
[10:10] <zetheroo> Habbie: huh ok
[10:11] <zetheroo> Habbie: thanks for the clarification ;
[10:11] <platter> After a failed/hanging ubuntu upgrade to 14.04 (not by me), I've booted from a recovery USB medium and I try to mount (readonly) the harddrive and it will not work, shows plenty errors in dmesg, like status: { DRDY ERR } http://paste.ubuntu.com/16505199/ . Is there hope for the drive? I've read somewhere that could be caused by a faulty cable?
[10:11] <Habbie> zetheroo, no problem
[10:13] <Glenn> How to setup multiple WLAN
[10:18] <Glenn> Hi
[10:19] <Glenn> HOW to detect if a Ethernet cable is connected
[10:19] <Habbie> Glenn, ethtool eth0
[10:19] <mcphail> platter: can be caused by a faulty cable or a loose motherboard power connection. I've also got a faulty motherboard which spawns those errors
[10:19] <mcphail> platter: best to check the drive in another machine with a different cable
[10:20] <platter> Good idea. I've previously switched the sata port around, but it did not make a difference. Btw. I've managed to mount the drive no with the 'noload' option
[10:27] <platter> mount the drive now*
[10:29] <brym> morning all. i understand i cannot dd my existing drive while it's in use. but can i qemu-img it while it's in use?
[10:30] <rena_> Hi, I have Ubuntu 15.10 installed (not dual boot!). anyone had problems upgrading it without reinstalling everything? had a similar problem before and I was just wondering...
[10:31] <brym> rena_: i had 14.04.1 installed, and upgraded to 16.04 on release day. i've encountered several issues as a result of not waiting for the official upgrade release.
[10:32] <garcia> garcia
[10:32] <k1l_> brym: still that NAS? please ask that NAS support or the support from the OS that NAS runs.
[10:32] <brym> rena_: i'm now looking to virtualize my existing desktop and reinstall 14.04.1. small steps though, as this itself is proving troublesome.
[10:33] <k1l_> rena_: the upgrades get automated testings. 15.10 to1 6.04 should work. but be aware that there are issues for amd video card users.
[10:33] <brym> k1l_: the nas is only where i want to save the image. i appreciate i've gotten all the support i can from here regarding that.
[10:34] <k1l_> brym: then boot a ubuntu usb stick and dd the hdd then.
[10:36] <brym> k1l_: i will. i just wondered if it were possible to do it with qemu-img create, that's all. i know i can convert using qemu-img after dd'ing. and loading a .raw shouldn't be a problem either. just a curiosity :)
[10:39] <leeyaa> hi
[10:40] <leeyaa> after upgrading Ubuntu 14.04 LTS to 16.04 I can no longer start apache2. I found that from this Apache VH https://ghostbin.com/paste/r9uma the line PerlRequire       startup.pl breaks Apache
[10:40] <leeyaa> any idea how to debug it?
[10:40] <leeyaa> im getting segmentation faults
[10:41] <leeyaa> works fine on 14.04 LTS
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | leeyaa
[10:41] <leeyaa> !ltsupgrade
[10:41] <lotuspsychje> leeyaa: not recommended yet to upgrade from 14.04 yet
[10:41] <leeyaa> lotuspsychje: i know. i am updating a dev server
[10:42] <leeyaa> lotuspsychje: so you are saying to wait? i was hoping i can debug it
[10:42] <RandomUser1234> I have a bad laptop that only has 512 MB of DDR2 ram, can it run ubuntu 16.04?
[10:42] <leeyaa> RandomUser1234: yes it can
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: lubuntu or xubuntu sure
[10:42] <leeyaa> just make sure you use some lightweight desktop env
[10:43] <RandomUser1234> So should I install lubuntu?
[10:43] <RandomUser1234> I have regular ubuntu 16.04 on the usb
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> leeyaa: perhaps reinstall apache?
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: 512ram is bit low for unity
[10:43] <leeyaa> lotuspsychje: by reinstalling you mean apt-get install or completely ?
[10:43] <RandomUser1234> lotuspsychje: so lubuntu should be good?
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> leeyaa: could try reinstall apache only perhaps
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: its your choice really mate, some love lubuntu, some xubuntu
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: checkout lubuntu and xubuntu website perhaps?
[10:44] <leeyaa> lotuspsychje: nope still segfaulting
[10:45] <RandomUser1234> lotuspsychje: this is only for my grandma who needs internet to browse and skype to call family.
[10:45] <RandomUser1234> lotuspsychje: as her windows xp is virus filled
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: lubuntu is the lightest in normal cases
[10:45] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: but i had 1 machine perform better on xubuntu
[10:45] <RandomUser1234> so xubuntu is lighter?
[10:46] <RandomUser1234> this laptop has DDR2 512 MB ram
[10:46] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: lubuntu is the lightest normally
[10:46] <k1l_> !lubuntu | RandomUser1234
[10:47] <k1l_> RandomUser1234: with 512mb ram Lubuntu is your only chance
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> leeyaa: try a 16.04 liveusb and test apache there perhaps?
[10:48] <RandomUser1234> There's multiple alternate downloads for lubuntu
[10:48] <RandomUser1234> can i get a recommendation?
[10:48] <Habbie> RandomUser1234, url?
[10:48] <leeyaa> lotuspsychje: nah ill just propose our devs to wait
[10:49] <leeyaa> or debug their crap
[10:49] <k1l_> leeyaa: from 14.04 to 16.04 versions changed. make sure your setup still works with all the new version of apache, php, etc
[10:50] <leeyaa> k1l_: I used to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 without issues. any new major changes with this release ?
[10:50] <leeyaa> i dont see major changes in httpd
[10:50] <k1l_> leeyaa: that depends on the stuff in use.
[10:50] <leeyaa> but maybe mod_perl is different
[10:50] <leeyaa> k1l_: its a perl app
[10:50] <k1l_> leeyaa: like there were major changes in php and mysql
[10:51] <leeyaa> not part of this node, only httpd and mod_perl
[10:51] <leoknudsen> Hi @everyone, is there anyone that might know how to use the --with-gettext flag while installing php gettext on a 14.04 machine?
[10:51] <k1l_> then look at the errors you get and what exact issue it is. i am just guessing from your "it doesnt work" information
[10:52] <leeyaa> k1l_: it is a segmentation fault [ 1792.958926] /usr/sbin/apach[3479]: segfault at 5 ip 00007f8e5c043cfe sp 00007ffdb4abcf00 error 4 in Pid.so[7f8e5c043000+1000] and this is the strace output https://ghostbin.com/paste/4p7x7
[10:52] <leeyaa> so nothing useful in logs except the segfault error in syslog
[10:53] <RandomUser1234> which alternate lubuntu should I get?
[10:53] <RandomUser1234> for a laptop that has 512 MB of ram
[10:53] <k1l_> RandomUser1234: what about lubuntu desktop 64bit.iso?
[10:53] <RandomUser1234> the laptop isn't quad core
[10:53] <savig> hii guys
[10:54] <k1l_> doesnt matter. as long as your cpu is 64bit go with 64bit OS
[10:54] <savig> installed windows 10 and ubuntu 16.04 in my lap and can't access my partitioned drives in ubuntu. need to ntfsfix every time when using ubuntu
[10:54] <leeyaa> k1l_: he has 512mb memory, not a good idea to get 64 bit
[10:54] <savig> any solution??
[10:54] <RandomUser1234> k1l_: how can i tell if the cpu is 64bit? It's an Intel Celeron processor 530
[10:54] <k1l_> leeyaa: 32bit/64bit is not about amount of ram.
[10:54] <leeyaa> k1l_: 64 bit tends to use a bit more memory
[10:55] <SwedeMike> RandomUser1234: http://ark.intel.com/products/33100/Intel-Celeron-Processor-530-1M-Cache-1_73-GHz-533-MHz-FSB-Socket-P   "Intel 64 YES".
[10:55] <k1l_> RandomUser1234: that is capable of 64bit
[10:55] <leeyaa> k1l_: at one of our offices we got 30% memory usage increase by just switching to 64 bit Ubuntu
[10:56] <k1l_> leeyaa: and 32bit is dying. like chrome dropped 32bit builds. other distributions are following. so if you want a modern desktop, go for 64bit
[10:56] <de-facto> savig does windows use an ssd cache or such?
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> leeyaa: and cpu takes over heavy work also
[10:56] <RandomUser1234> i hope this 512 DDR2 MB laptop can handle 64bit
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: it will
[10:56] <savig> nopes ,
[10:56] <leeyaa> k1l_: thats not a valid argument in his use case. anyway :)
[10:56] <k1l_> RandomUser1234: it can when the cpu can. so go for it
[10:57] <RandomUser1234> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Alternate_ISO
[10:57] <RavinduL> Hi! How do I remove a package `musique` that shows up in list.txt after I run `apt list > list.txt` as "musique/wily 1.1-2.1build1 amd64"?
[10:57] <RandomUser1234> not sure what to download for 512 MB ram
[10:57] <SwedeMike> RandomUser1234: if you have any possibility to upgrade ram on that laptop, it'll be worthwhile for your usage. See if you can find some used memory somewhere, or something.
[10:57] <savig> Iam used lubuntu 15.10 earlier with no such problems
[10:57] <RavinduL> I tried `sudo apt-get remove musique`, with no success
[10:57] <de-facto> savig so what are you doing exactly, what does not work, and how do you expect it to work?
[10:57] <k1l_> RandomUser1234: use the "desktop 64bit iso"
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/16.04/release/lubuntu-16.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: or the 14.04 if you like
[10:58] <RandomUser1234> lotuspsychje: But the desktop versions is saying you need 700 MB or more
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: make a liveusb out ot the iso
[10:59] <k1l_> RandomUser1234: space on the cd/dvd. or what is the issue?
[10:59] <RandomUser1234> Desktop (Graphical Installer)These versions are suitable for PC's with over 700 MB of RAM. Do not try to install 64 bit on a 32 bit machine. Installing 32 bit onto 64 bit is safe. These images require either DVD or USB for the image.
[10:59] <RandomUser1234> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu
[10:59] <savig> just enter the partitioned drives normally without the error message
[11:00] <RandomUser1234> Alternate is a non-graphical installer image used for computers with less than 4.3GB hard disk space and below 700MB RAM. Use the alternate versions for non-standard setups
[11:00] <savig> in ubuntu
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> RandomUser1234: you dont need the alternate install
[11:00] <RandomUser1234> I believe I do as I couldn't run a live version of regular ubuntu
[11:01] <de-facto> savig sorry cant help you if i dont understand what you are doing there
[11:01] <k1l_> RandomUser1234: the thing is: the desktop iso is a live system. on <700mb ram systems that is very slow. so they suggest to use the alternate install cd because that is a visual reduced installer like the old windows ones.
[11:01] <RandomUser1234> k1l_: so i'll try the alternate
[11:02] <k1l_> RandomUser1234: they both install the same system in the end. the live-system just needs more ram becuase it needs to load the live system into the ram. which the alternate installer doesnt.
[11:02] <savig> actually I done nothing.....installed ubuntu 16.04 and windows 10 in my lap.........the problem is can't mout the partitioned drives in ubuntu , show problem like windows is in hibernate or somthing.....
[11:03] <boxmein> savig: windows never shuts down fully anymore
[11:03] <RavinduL> savig, Disable fast startup within windows to fix that
[11:03] <boxmein> savig: shutdown is called "hybrid shutdown" and means that services/etc get hibernated while rest gets shutdown
[11:03] <boxmein> savig: there should be what RavinduL said, an option to turn that off and still enable full shutdowns in windows
[11:04] <de-facto> savig ah ok so you want to access your windows 10 partition from ubuntu? you need to "really shut down" windows for that, normally it goes into hilbernation mode (which does not write everything to disk)
[11:04] <boxmein> savig: thing is, in hibernation, the partition becomes waaaaaaay fragile
[11:04] <RavinduL> savig, http://acer-in.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/37059/~/windows-10%3A-enable-or-disable-fast-startup
[11:04] <boxmein> savig: stuff like hiberfiles, memory locations etc have to stay the same for a successful boot
[11:04] <TomyWork> my kubuntu 14.04 machine is much slower than usual after a DNS outage. i have t on of tabs and consoles open, is there anything i can try short of a reboot
[11:04] <savig> Ohk
[11:04] <k1l_> savig: boot to windows. then remove the "fast reboot" option on that partitions. so they get clean shutdown and are mountable by other OSs
[11:04] <boxmein> savig: well there's like one hiberfile but point remains
[11:06] <savig> but where should be that fast reboot option in windows 10
[11:06] <radicate> So by accident I ran the command 'stop'
[11:07] <radicate> And ended up not being to log back again as it apparently corrupts the Xauthority?
[11:07] <beepbeep_> I want to automate adding something to a users crontab, so I can't use crontab -e. How would I do this?
[11:07] <k1l_> savig: something like this: http://www.windows10update.com/2015/05/windows-10-tutorials-66-how-to-enable-or-disable-fast-startup/
[11:07] <de-facto> savig i dont know how to "really shut down windows", i just know per default it does hilbernation and fast reboot, but maybe you also can ask in #windows for that
[11:08] <savig> wow thanks for the link  kill_
[11:09] <savig> thanks guys , for the help
[11:09] <savig> I think It should fix the issue
[11:25] <isene> After upgrade to 16.04, my authdeamond got kicked out of the building and I now need to run "/usr/sbin/authdaemond start" upon laptop restart. How do I make sure it runs automatically?
[11:25] <isene> Where do I put what?
[11:27] <Guest92238> Hi All, I'm trying to install eclipse che on 14.04. What is the ubuntu equivalent command for "bin/che.sh run --remote:<ip>"
[11:28] <Ben64> Guest92238: "bin/che.sh run --remote:<ip>"
[11:28] <Ben64> Guest92238: although i have no idea what "eclipse che" is or why you're running a random sh file
[11:29] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[11:30] <Guest92238> Ben64: what is the remote ip here?
[11:31] <Ben64> Guest92238: ?
[11:33] <brunch875> Guest92238: It shouldn't differ from other distributions. As in "the ubuntu equivalent" should be "exactly the same"
[11:33] <brunch875> unless your manual specifies otherwise
[11:33] <tonio> #meta-it
[11:35] <Guest92238> brunch875: so here is the context. I has intalled the eclipse che on AWS ec2 ubuntu 14.04 instance. But I'm not able to access the eclipse che through the browser
[11:35] <OerHeks> Open source workspace server and cloud IDE. http://eclipse.org/che .. so you run it in docker?
[11:36] <OerHeks> .. che in docker on top of 14.04 on aws ?
[11:37] <Guest92238> OerHeks: yes, in docker
[11:37] <Guest92238> OerHeks: I had follwed this guide: https://eclipse-che.readme.io/docs/configuration-che-on-ec2
[11:39] <OerHeks> why not docker direct ? https://docs.docker.com/engine/installation/cloud/cloud-ex-aws/
[11:41] <NetworkingPro> Hey everyone.
[11:45] <Guest92238> OerHeks: it only talks about docker but not the eclipse che
[11:45] <wuu> NetworkingPro: hi
[11:46] <NetworkingPro> how are ya wuu ?
[11:48] <wuu> NetworkingPro: productive morning but running low on coffee -> emegency is at hand
[11:49] <NetworkingPro> wuu:  I can understand that. I'm debating on coffee. I can't just drink it black, so I have to add sugary things to it.
[11:50]  * NetworkingPro is also trying to figure out why my android wear device wont show up in the UP app.
[11:52] <Dulcin> Hi, I was on a fully updated Ubuntu 15.10 and ran do-release-upgrade this morning. Later it was on a locked screen and I was unable to log in, now the locked screen is frozen... when I check the processes I dont see any heavy processor usage... is it safe to reboot?
[11:52] <Dulcin> or should I wait or do something else?
[11:53] <wuu> NetworkingPro: nah everybody should drink it as they like - can't realy say this is the only way - my coffee version is dependent on multiple states ;)
[11:53] <Dulcin> My mouse still works in the lockscreen, but pressing the cancel button doesnt seem to do anything and the password field is disabled
[11:53] <mcphail> Dulcin: you're the 2nd person I've seen report that in here. Can you file a bug, please?
[11:53] <wuu> NetworkingPro: what UP app ?
[11:54] <Dulcin> Ok, what did the previous person do to fix it?
[11:54] <wuu> Dulcin: can you still switch to the virtual shells ?
[11:54] <mcphail> Dulcin: if you log into a virtual terminal and run "ps aux | grep update" and "ps aux | grep dpkg" it will show whether anything else is still running from the updater
[11:54] <Dulcin> wuu: I can
[11:54] <Dulcin> Ok ill do that
[11:54] <wuu> :)
[11:55] <mcphail> Dulcin: I had to do a similar thing as Compiz crashed during the update. I wonder if the same thing happens when the screen locks?
[11:55] <Dulcin> There's 3 processes with system-crash-notification
[11:55] <MrZone_> What does the "do-release-upgrade" command do?
[11:55] <wuu> Dulcin: mcphail is faster than me <- I'll fetch some coffee
[11:56] <mcphail> Dulcin: they'll be awaiting confirmation in the GUI which you will never be able to give them. Just kill htem
[11:56] <NetworkingPro> Im not so hot at awk, would someone mind helping me out?     Im doing this command:  ps -eo pid,cmd,etime | grep vlc
[11:56] <NetworkingPro> which returns 57354 /usr/bin/vlc -I dummy -vvv     15:35:00
[11:56] <NetworkingPro> I want to use awk to single out just the pid
[11:56] <lelapin> Hellooooo
[11:57] <beliali> hello good people. im trying to run a binary, but am getting errors. checking strace i can see that its a permission issue (open("/filename.so.7", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)). The permissions look fine, ownership too. The weird part is that if i reboot the machine the issue goes away. I tried running ldconfig to no avail. A
[11:57] <beliali> ny help would be appreciated.
[11:57] <Habbie> beliali, literally "/filename.so.7" ?
[11:57] <beliali> :) no
[11:57] <lelapin> If any good adviser on Linux software and tweaks is available I could use some advice. Thx. :)
[11:57] <Habbie> lelapin, just ask your question in here
[11:58] <survietamine> hello, is there a recommend way to build deb packages? Xenial provides dovecot 2.2.22 and I'd like to have 2.2.24 which is available on http://xi.dovecot.fi/debian/dists/ but it will be replaced by latest nightly.
[11:58] <Dulcin> Ok I tried 'reboot' but it says 'Operation inhibited by 'UpdateManager' PID 2685 "xenial", user root), reason is "updating system". Guess I'll wait a bit longer
[11:58] <survietamine> So, what would be a "good strategy"? Can I get the xi sources packages and try to imitate it?
[11:59] <beliali> The actual filename is a symlink to the actual lib file. The symlinks and everything is fine. The point here being that if i reboot the machine there's no more permission problem. Thats why im stumped.. If more information is needed - tell me :)
[11:59] <Habbie> beliali, the real name, you showing that all the perms are okay, would be a good start
[11:59] <Ben64> survietamine: good strategy is to use the packages from the ubuntu repository
[11:59] <mcphail> Dulcin: yep. Just check there are no processes asking for user input which will be blocking the update
[12:00] <mcphail> survietamine: hacking around with hand-rolled .debs is a good way to break your system entirely
[12:00] <beliali> Habbie
[12:00] <beliali> └── #ls -la /usr/local/ze-clamav/lib/libclamav.so.7
[12:00] <beliali> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 May 19 08:03 /usr/local/ze-clamav/lib/libclamav.so.7 -> libclamav.so.7.1.1
[12:00] <beliali> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 18759045 May 19 08:03 /usr/local/ze-clamav/lib/libclamav.so.7.1.1
[12:00] <survietamine> Ben64: but 2.2.22 shipped with Xenial is somehow broken
[12:00] <beliali> open("/usr/local/ze-clamav/lib/libclamav.so.7", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[12:00] <Habbie> beliali, please use a pastebin and show permissions for all path components
[12:00] <beliali> yeah that makes more sense lol
[12:01] <lelapin> Thx Habbie . I have to translate - on the fly- in french an audio interview, and I wondered if there was an easier way than Ctrl-tabbing between Audacious and [any] wordprocessor or text editor so I can synchronize the sound I need to ear and the focus that should stay on the wordprocessor.
[12:01] <Ben64> survietamine: then post a bug report about it
[12:01] <EriC^^> beliali: check the dirs leading up to that file
[12:01] <Dulcin> mcphail: is there an easy way to check for those?
[12:02] <beliali> EriC yeah i did that. And once again - if i reboot the server the issue goes away just like that without any more changes
[12:02] <lelapin> I've seen that Audacious has many plugins, but I found none that could give a direct play/pause (at least) command without leaving WP's focus.
[12:02] <survietamine> Ben64: so, the maintainer of that package doesn't check dovecot announcements on dovecot's mailing sites?
[12:03] <Habbie> beliali, anything in dmesg before reboot?
[12:03] <survietamine> Ben64: because on previous LTS I'm using, it's somehow never got upgrades
[12:03] <beliali> Habbie, EriC http://p.defau.lt/?VaXSmmT3EDls45zLIB73ag
[12:03] <Ben64> survietamine: not sure what you're saying
[12:04] <Habbie> beliali, and the path components?
[12:04] <mcphail> Dulcin: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-release-upgrader/+bug/1573952 for an example of what happened to me
[12:04] <survietamine> Ben64: when new stable releases of dovecot are available, the author publishs new features and bug fixes
[12:04] <beliali> Habbie how do i show them ?
[12:04] <Habbie> beliali, ls -ald /usr /usr/local /usr/local/ze-clamav etc.
[12:04] <beliali> right
[12:04] <Ben64> survietamine: in ubuntu, versions of packages stay the same, to keep everything working together properly. bugs still do get fixed and backported or whatever
[12:04] <Habbie> beliali, are you in fact root when you do this?
[12:05] <beliali> Habbie http://p.defau.lt/?dr3eZfdWEiZo16QYEzBjlg
[12:06] <beliali> And yes, im root
[12:06] <Habbie> ok, anything in dmesg? or other logs?
[12:06] <Habbie> i'm thinking apparmor maybe
[12:07] <lelapin> Habbie, well, that doesn't seem to inspire anybody. ;)
[12:07] <Habbie> lelapin, it happens
[12:07] <Habbie> lelapin, audacity doesn't respect the media keys on your keyboard?
[12:07] <beliali> dont know what apparmor is. Habbie, should i be looking for smth specific in dmesg ?
[12:08] <Habbie> beliali, anything involving 'deny' or whatever around the time you try to run freshclam
[12:09] <crocodilehunter> hello. I want to help document ZFS more. can anybody point me in the righ5 direction?
[12:10] <lelapin> Habbie, No. I have an old Logitech kbd with MM keys actually, but only the special sound volume ones are active. All the extra function keys are not. (and if they were, would they go directly to Audacity if the focus is elsewhere ?).
[12:10] <beliali> nothing in dmesg, syslog or kern.log when getting the permission denied :/ Gonna do a reboot and check the logfile
[12:14] <Dulcin> ill be back
[12:17] <beliali> Nothing that stands out in dmesg when rebooting either. There's obviously a bunch of stuff which i have no idea what means but nothing obvious..
[12:19] <Goeland86> hi all, I've run into a curious issue since I upgraded from 15.10 to 16.04 - my phone won't appear in Nautilus anymore. I've double checked the udev libmtp rules (and hwdb file) to add my device back into it, rebooted, and still nothing in Nautilus. mtp-detect sees my phone, so what am I missing?
[12:21] <bratner> Hi! After upgrade to 16.04 from 15.10, media volume-up/down keys stopped working on a wireless keyboard. Media keys work fine on the wired one.  Anyone has an idea how to debug this?
[12:27] <Cablegunmaster_> question I am using a bashrc script to change my terminal title using set-title now im using it in a bash script but it only works after a "enter" has been inputted
[12:27] <Cablegunmaster_> how can I simulate a "enter" in bash? :)
[12:27] <beliali> Habbie you mentioned AppArmor. Anything i can check with that to see whats up ?
[12:27] <Habbie> beliali, i haven't worked with apparmor myself, i suggest googling a bit
[12:29] <CLoPa> Hi, I'm struggling to remove the popcorntime completely, which I had installed through wine. I'd tried remove it using the wine itself, but it doesn't remove the icons. Have anyone an idea how to remove the icons it?
[12:30] <Goeland86> nvm found my problem - I was missing a line in /etc/fuse.conf
[12:30] <mcphail> CLoPa: look for .desktop files under ~/.local/share/applications/wine/ and remove the popcorn time one
[12:31] <CLoPa> Nice!  They all come with a warning
[12:40] <k1l_> momomo: remove that videolan repo and the wrong ppa then. easy as that.
[12:40] <MrZone> bulding from source is what? "make ." and then "make install"?
[12:40] <momomo> mcphail, maybe in the future, ubuntu will learn to **** handle such scenarios .. because people do need to use ppas because not everything is in the default repos
[12:40] <MrZone> momomo: If the repo is down then what is the problem that you are faceing? Just remove it?
[12:41] <momomo> and why have a software updater and a separate software center ... why not just have one place for all .. where you can view your updates as well
[12:41] <k1l_> MrZone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[12:41] <momomo> MrZone, i am not sure what the problem is
[12:41] <MrZone> k1l_: The more you know
[12:42] <MrZone> momomo: If you cannot reach or use the repo then you are going to need to remove it and find another one
[12:42] <k1l_> MrZone: checkinstall will make it to a package (only for your system). so you could remove that more easily
[12:42] <MrZone> k1l_: Yeah i gathered that. How does it decide on what to name the package?
[12:43] <k1l_> MrZone: good question :) maybe from the make scripts?
[12:44] <momomo> still no update dialog .. despite no errors
[12:44] <momomo> i am on xfce
[12:44] <momomo> but it should still work
[12:44] <imr> hi, I uninstalled Zsh, because I was going back to BASH. but now *any* terminal emulator won't bring up a command line. halp?
[12:45] <k1l_> MrZone: it will ask for that sort.
[12:45] <frudo> hi
[12:45] <frudo> i have maked image from root disk to another disk ..
[12:46] <MrZone> k1l_: coolbeans
[12:46] <frudo> another disk attached with new machine its not opening
[12:49] <aep> how do i debug "Job failed to start"? where are the logs for that?
[12:49] <aep> in upstart
[12:51] <n0had0> hi is anybody else having problems with updating thunderbird?
[12:52] <n0had0> its hanging on 80% for the last 10 minutes now
[12:52] <k1l_> what problems?
[12:52] <n0had0> ive changed the mirror a few times
[12:53] <n0had0> if i use the updater i get an error to check my internet connection
[12:53] <n0had0> so i resorted to trying through terminal
[12:59] <user807> I've been googling a bit but only seem to find old search results. Is there a good way to get a Dash to also act directly as a calculator in 16.04?
[13:03] <noonehere_> I'm using 15.10 and I have msgs whenever I update whether I want to upgrade to 16.04... how is the upgrade these days?
[13:03] <noonehere_> I'm using kernel 4.2 so I guess it will be upgraded to 4.4?
[13:04] <OerHeks> download the iso, put it on usb, for safety, then hit the upgrade button
[13:05] <OerHeks> if you didn't have a backup of your data, it wasn't important
[13:05] <n0had0> so, about that problem with thunderbird update
[13:07] <tubbln> does anyone have wifislax installed on ubuntu?
[13:11] <soverc> Is anyone using 16.04 server in a production capicity ? 14.04 is flawless for us. Since we use no openstack on the servers and I can upgrade python and Nginx myself why would I use 16.04 yet ?
[13:12] <Habbie> because it delays mandatory upgrades by 3 years
[13:12] <Habbie> because today it's python and nginx but later you might find yourself missing newer versions of more things
[13:14] <pc_> gfro
[13:14] <dadidado> hi
[13:14] <pc_> habla
[13:15] <dadidado> when I tried the <alt> menu a long time ago, the menus presented expended to system ones when the keyword was not found in the current window
[13:15] <soverc> Habbie, understand about the support. Hesitant since it is new(ish) - Having said this issue outloud I will just stand up a few 16.04s and test against for 6months to a year and then just upgrade all.
[13:15] <Habbie> soverc, if everything works today it does make sense to give 16.04 a month or 6 indeed
[13:15] <Habbie> soverc, i don't like .0 versions either ;)
[13:15] <dadidado> for exemple, beeing in firefox and pressing <alt> then typing VPN would present networkmanager's VPN menu
[13:16] <dadidado> is there any way to have that back ?
[13:16] <dadidado> I searched for hud options and appmenu options, but didn't find anything
[13:17] <soverc> Habbie, I have 4 other 14.04s, going to keep the new one the same.....thanks for lisiting to me TYPE outloud
[13:17] <Habbie> soverc, :)
[13:18] <dadidado> does someone know the exact name of the <alt> menu ? appmenu/globalmenu/hud ?
[13:23] <Glenn> Hi
[13:25] <tartas> hello does anybody here speak greek
[13:25] <Ace> hi
[13:25] <Ace> again
[13:26] <tartas> Ace; you speak greek?
[13:26] <Ace> sorry why?
[13:26] <DJones> !gr | tartas
[13:26] <Ace> nope
[13:26] <tartas> DJones; what's that
[13:26] <tartas> i didn't get anything
[13:27] <DJones> tartas: I thought there was a factoid to give info on the greek language channel, obviously not
[13:28] <tartas> actually there's #ubuntu-gr
[13:28] <DJones> tartas: I think the greek language channel is #ubuntu-gr
[13:28] <DJones> Thats what I was looking for
[13:29] <akis> hi all. I am wondering if a command  at erminal without sudo can make any change at system files?
[13:29] <noonehere_> OerHeks,  how do you put it on usb?  Do you know?
[13:29] <platter> I'm currently running 'sudo fsck.ext4 -fyvc /dev/...' on the drive, which failed during dist-upgrade (and it found 41/0/0 errors). Should I have used -C0? Or is that just a progress bar?
[13:29] <noonehere_> Also, I installed Ubuntu Gnome...should I choose that?
[13:29] <DJones> !bot
[13:30] <lyze> !gr
[13:32] <soverc> anyone everu used http://www.howopensource.com/2014/09/simple-linux-backup-to-dropbox/ or anything like it. I dont care to populate and connect to dropbox, only to push backups to
[13:32] <platter> ah sorry, found the manual now for fsck.ext4, -C0 is just the progress bar. I misunderstood what's written here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilesystemTroubleshooting
[13:34] <de-facto> akis it depends on how your system is configures. normally system files are owned by root and normally users not in root group woudl only have read access (644). but that  depends on the permissions, e.g. if some files are 777 or such everyone could write to them. you can see details by "stat /path/to/file"
[13:35] <n0had0> can anybody download this or is it just me?
[13:35] <n0had0> http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/t/thunderbird/thunderbird_38.8.0+build1-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_amd64.deb
[13:36] <akis> de-facto: i gave this command: ln -s /usr/share/applications/{org.gnome.FileRoller.desktop,file-roller.desktop} which i read somewhere. What kind (if any) of change could made on my system and how can i check it? after i gave the command the syste returned no error.
[13:37] <platter> Is there a good way to recover from a failed dist-upgrade to 14.04 (was hanging at a dpkg setup step, as far as I was told, does not boot linux now) while I currently have the drive in a different, running 14.04 system?
[13:40] <Powerless> does anyone know how to make the scanner from the brother dcp8065dn work?
[13:40] <de-facto> akis it expands those (the {...} ) then gives several arguments to the program "ln" which makes symbolic links with the "-s" option. normally it woudl do that in the current directory as the user you currently are. but as it expands it will link ln -s <source> <destination> see "man ln". in short if you were not root or used sudo, and normal user does not have write access in /usr/share/applications/ you shoudl be fine
[13:40] <Powerless> ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[13:42] <skinux> How do I get the bottom-panel of 16.04 without actually installing 16.04?
[13:42] <skinux> Is it possible?
[13:43] <akis> de-facto: i was not root but only simple user and no sudo was at the begining of this command just to be sure that no change will effect my system. i was wondering because the system returned no error after i gave the command (wihout sudo)
[13:45] <_russo> platter: your best bet is to make a clean install media for 14.04 and do a new installation over your current one leaving all your documents intact...
[13:46] <noonehere_> did anyone reply to me? sorry
[13:46] <platter> thanks _russo, that's what I "feared".
[13:48] <platter> n0had0: seems fine, curl -I gives status 200 and Content-Length: 33023888
[13:54] <Dulcin> What would happen if I reboot my PC during do-release-upgrade? (since my gui is frozen and I dont think its still doing anything even though the process is still there)
[13:55] <Dulcin> It's been like this for a couple of hours now
[13:56] <n0had0> trying to update thunderbird
[13:57] <n0had0> on the main server i get Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[13:57] <n0had0> and on au server i get hash mismatch
[13:57] <pryorda> Hey Guys,
[13:58] <pryorda> Where is the file manager preferences?
[13:58] <n0had0> im tried  sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[13:58] <pryorda> I dont have a drop down thingy like this link shows
[13:58] <n0had0> the update
[13:58] <pryorda> https://help.ubuntu.com/16.04/ubuntu-help/nautilus-views.html
[13:58] <n0had0> im on 14.04 lts
[13:59] <n0had0> *14.04.4
[13:59] <pryorda> nvm figured it up
[13:59] <pryorda> n0had0: that wasnt for you
[13:59] <pryorda> what issue are you having?
[14:01] <n0had0> i am trying to update thunderbird. on the main server i get Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80] with any au server i get hash sum mismatch. ive tried several things and searching ubuntu has led me to believe this is normally an issue occuring with old unsupported ppas however im on 14.04.4 LTS
[14:02] <n0had0> all the ppas are trusty
[14:02] <pryorda> gist your error
[14:02] <n0had0> save for one google one which i deleted in hopes it would work
[14:08] <platter> n0had0: I would first try a third mirror
[14:08] <blacknred0> is there a way that I could attach the results of grep and do echo?
[14:08] <n0had0> platter ive used a few different au mirrors
[14:08] <EriC^^> echo to where black
[14:08] <EriC^^> blacknred0:
[14:09] <Glenn> How to setup multiple WLAN
[14:10] <Nimonas> hi
[14:11] <blacknred0> EriC^^ so I am going grep -c 'something special' file.txt, and I get a number (let's say 5)  now, I would like to do echo "this is the result" 5
[14:11] <aethelrick> blacknred0, grep "echos" it's results to the screen you can redirect these to a file or to another program using >, >> or | e.g. grep "something" somewhere > results.txt
[14:12] <EriC^^> blacknred0: result=$(grep -c ... file) , then echo $result later
[14:13] <blacknred0> thanks EriC^^
[14:13] <EriC^^> blacknred0: no problem
[14:14] <blacknred0> aethelrick: i'm trying to avoid storing it on a a file :) , but I'll keep that in mind for future ref
[14:14] <davesidious> Hey folks - has anyone else had problems with lightdm not starting automatically after upgrading to 16.04 (with nvidia proprietary drivers)?
[14:16] <n0had0> so two more software sources
[14:16] <n0had0> the second one hanging on 79% a UK mirror
[14:17] <n0had0> trying one in spain cause fuck it why not right
[14:17] <k1l_> n0had0: is the download hanging?
[14:18] <n0had0> that one did
[14:18] <k1l_> n0had0: do you use some sort of proxy or vpn?
[14:18] <n0had0> usually it completes to 100% then i get an error to check my net connection
[14:18] <n0had0> nope no proxy or vpn, the farthest i went was changed the dns on my router to google dns
[14:19] <n0had0> it has since been changed back to my isp and still the same problem
[14:19] <n0had0> spanish mirror giving me hashsum mismatch
[14:19] <k1l_> your disk isnt full?
[14:20] <k1l_> i wonder why it hsould always stop at 80% on that package.
[14:20] <aep> is there a way to not execute post install scripts?
[14:20] <n0had0> 50gb+ free
[14:20] <n0had0> well ive triple checked software sources
[14:21] <n0had0> afaik internet is working fine
[14:21] <k1l_> the update should come from the security servers anyway.
[14:22] <n0had0> yes this is what is making this abit important
[14:22] <n0had0> im thinking of just removing thunderbird completely
[14:22] <k1l_> can you please show the exact output from your terminal in paste.ubuntu.com ?
[14:24] <mcphail> n0had0: MTU set incorrectly?
[14:24] <n0had0> automatic
[14:25] <n0had0> k1l_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/16507039/
[14:25] <de-facto> akis you can see the shell expansion (which depends on the files currently present) by "echo ls -s /usr/share/applications/{org.gnome.FileRoller.desktop,file-roller.desktop}" just echoing back what it would run with such a command
[14:26] <k1l_> n0had0: did you run "sudo apt update" first?
[14:26] <n0had0> of course
[14:27] <n0had0> i was switching between software sources
[14:27] <akis> de-facto: the system answered: ls -s /usr/share/applications/org.gnome.FileRoller.desktop /usr/share/applications/file-roller.desktop
[14:27] <n0had0> so naturally updating as i went along
[14:27] <Trym> Need help configuring ufw firewall
[14:28] <k1l_> n0had0: it didnt even load that file now. it just checked the hash of the old downloaded onbe
[14:28] <k1l_> *one
[14:29] <n0had0> ok hold on
[14:29] <de-facto> akis yeah seems fine then i guess, those files exist on my unmodified system too (regular files). i guess what was meant by that command is place a link to those from your current directory as it would when running "ln -s /path/to/file" which woudl create a symlink called "file" in your current dir pointing to /path/to/file
[14:30]  * riqdiiz Part
[14:30] <thinky> hi there
[14:30] <thinky> why does ubuntu dims the screen while i am watching online movie, or youtube videos or listening music?
[14:31] <de-facto> akis actually what probably was meant in your guide was "ln -s /usr/share/applications/file-roller.desktop" and "ln -s /usr/share/applications/org.gnome.FileRoller.desktop" placing links in your current directory "pwd" to those files
[14:31] <platter> How can I install (L)ubuntu 14.04 from a 13.xx USB boot medium? I'd like to keep the USB as is, it's a backup/fallback.
[14:32] <akis> de-facto: so it is concluded that no change was made and no symlink was made with this command?
[14:32] <Trym> Firewall ufw config help?
[14:32] <somsip> Trym: specify the problem and someone might know
[14:33] <Trym> Hi somsip . Want to deny all in and out. And open for some ip out from my server
[14:34] <nuex> i have a thinkpad x240 with ubuntu 14.04 and every time my laptop suspends audio stops working for my headphones (only) and it makes me sad
[14:34] <k1l_> thinky: because your flashplayer doesnt block the dimming like real video players do
[14:34] <nuex> i've looked everywhere on the internet fiddling with different audio things and nothing works
[14:34] <nuex> has anyone else experienced this?
[14:34] <de-facto> akis jup i guess so since "stat /usr/share/applications" shows 0755/drwxr-xr-x  which and owned my root GID, you can try "touch /usr/share/applications/file" as a normal user which woudl deny your write access to that location