[12:51] <scalability-junk> let's assume I have some instances deliver images. to keep the images updated I need to have the images on an ebs right? so when I use an ebs to store the images, the bottleneck will be the storage controller and not the instances who deliver the content right?
[14:55] <scalability-junk> anyone using openstack yet?


[00:06] <haggis-AAO-umpc> added syndemon to /etc/rc.local
[00:06] <haggis-AAO-umpc> :)
[00:13] <haggis-AAO-umpc> If this is an issue for you, the touchpad can be configured without enabling SHMConfig by placing the desired options in a HAL fdi file and rebooting.  thats handy for u Alastair
[00:17] <hagisbasheruk>                                                                                .
[00:21] <hagisbasheruk>  hi merriam ::)
[00:22] <hagisbasheruk>  well did it work Alastair ?
[00:22] <hagisbasheruk> gggggggeeeeeeeeeeeeeettttttttttting laggggggg
[00:23] <hagisbasheruk> brb
[00:23] <hagisbasheruk> back , lag stoped
[00:30] <Alastair> nah
[00:31] <Alastair> nothing happened :(
[00:31] <Alastair> how can i check if the synaptics driver is even loaded ?
[00:31] <hagisbasheruk> lsmod
[00:33] <Alastair> well, either i'm blind or i can't see anything remote connected to it xD
[00:33] <Alastair> it seems the driver isn't loaded :s
[00:34] <hagisbasheruk> modprobe it
[00:35] <hagisbasheruk> add it to /etc/modules
[00:35] <Alastair> modprobe what... synaptics doesn't work
[00:36] <hagisbasheruk> ohh it doesn't
[00:39] <hagisbasheruk> what device do u have again
[00:39] <Alastair> M912M
[00:42] <hagisbasheruk> what does xinput list give you in erminal ?
[00:42] <hagisbasheruk> +t
[00:49] <hagisbasheruk> i have solution for your touchscreen Alastair https://answers.launchpad.net/netbook-remix/+question/44781
[00:50] <Alastair> this is my xinput list
[00:50] <hagisbasheruk> ohh lol
[00:50] <hagisbasheruk> send again
[00:50] <Alastair> lol
[00:50] <Alastair> there's info on my touchpad too on that site xD
[00:52] <hagisbasheruk> driver defenetly not loaded
[00:54] <hagisbasheruk> I've just got the touchpad working on my M912M. The solution is simply to pass the option "i8042.noloop" to the kernel when booting. (Edit the root=vmlinuz line in the grub menu to add it). LOL
[00:55] <Alastair> i'll try this now
[00:57] <Alastair> i just write this at the end of the line or what ?
[00:57] <hagisbasheruk> yup
[00:59] <Alastair> LOL
[00:59] <Alastair> it's alive
[00:59] <Alastair> omg, thank you so much :D
[00:59] <hagisbasheruk> :)
[00:59] <hagisbasheruk> #---------------------------------------------- taken from menu.lst file
[00:59] <hagisbasheruk> title Ubuntu 8.04.1, Hardy Heron
[00:59] <hagisbasheruk> root (hd0,5)
[00:59] <hagisbasheruk> kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-21-generic root=UUID=c09ba635-5bf4-4eb1-be04-7ae8e61dc758 ro quiet vga=773 splash -- i8042.noloop
[00:59] <hagisbasheruk> initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-21-generic
[00:59] <hagisbasheruk> quiet
[00:59] <hagisbasheruk> #----------------------------------------------- taken from xorg.conf file
[00:59] <hagisbasheruk> Section "InputDevice"
[00:59] <hagisbasheruk>         Identifier "Configured Mouse"
[00:59] <hagisbasheruk>         Driver "mouse"
[00:59] <hagisbasheruk>         Option "CorePointer"
[00:59] <hagisbasheruk>         Option "/dev/input/mice"
[00:59] <hagisbasheruk>         Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
[00:59] <hagisbasheruk>         Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
[00:59] <hagisbasheruk>         Option "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
[01:00] <hagisbasheruk> EndSection
[01:00] <hagisbasheruk> from that page
[01:00] <Alastair> ok...so now only the touchscreen issue is left on the table
[01:00] <hagisbasheruk> brb got to change bedding
[01:01] <hagisbasheruk> fix that from new driver given
[01:01] <hagisbasheruk> on link
[01:02] <Alastair> that driver doesn't work with intrepid
[01:02] <hagisbasheruk> forgetthat ill change bedding in the morning , cant be bothered getting up now :)
[01:02] <Alastair> nvm... the touchpad is enough for now :D
[01:06] <hagisbasheruk> http://www.penmount.com.tw/Download/Driver/PenMount/gpm-1.20.1-penmount.tar  build your own !!
[01:06] <hagisbasheruk> :)
[01:07] <hagisbasheruk> make
[01:07] <hagisbasheruk> sudo make install :)
[01:07] <hagisbasheruk> the modprobe it
[01:07] <hagisbasheruk> thenP
[01:08] <hagisbasheruk> but that means you'll need to build it for every new kernel update though
[01:08] <Alastair> that doesn't work either xD the same error as the other driver
[01:09] <Alastair> i'll just have to wait 'till they add support in the calibration tool, or for penmount's driver
[01:10] <Alastair> moreover it is working at least partially... for the rest i'll use the pad :D
[01:10] <hagisbasheruk> :)
[01:10] <Alastair> thank you for finding that link xD
[01:10] <hagisbasheruk> np
[01:11] <hagisbasheruk> had my googling head on tonight :)
[01:11] <Alastair> i searched google for hours, but never imagined the solution will be in the netbook-remix entry on launchpad...
[01:13] <hagisbasheruk> i just googled gigabyte m912m touchpad :)
[01:14] <Alastair> lol
[01:14] <Alastair> i tried many combinations, and every one of them involved ubuntu xD
[01:14] <hagisbasheruk> and was the 4th entry
[01:15] <Alastair> sometimes the simplest solution is right infront of your eyes but you can't see it ^^
[01:15] <Alastair> btw.
[01:15] <Alastair> is this permanent or will i have to enter it every time ?
[01:15] <hagisbasheruk> that is what made me click .....
[01:15] <hagisbasheruk> I've just got the touchpad working on my M912M. ... the ps/2 mouse port on the motherboard and that has know problems in linux with kernels after 2.6.10. ...
[01:15] <hagisbasheruk> :)
[01:16] <hagisbasheruk> perm
[01:16] <hagisbasheruk> you did edit menu.1st ?
[01:17] <hagisbasheruk> or did you just edit grub on bootup ?
[01:18] <Alastair> grub
[01:18] <Alastair> btw. the scrolling and tapping is working too...
[01:18] <Alastair> and much better than under windows i might add...
[01:19] <hagisbasheruk> edit your /boot/menu.1st
[01:20] <hagisbasheruk> then it will be perm
[01:20] <hagisbasheruk> edit your /boot/grub/menu.1st even
[01:21] <Alastair> thanks
[01:38] <Alastair> did you notice any real improvement after tweaking the video ?
[01:39] <hagisbasheruk> faster GL
[01:39] <Alastair> how much fps do you get on glxgears ?
[01:39] <hagisbasheruk> 2 sec i'll download
[01:40] <Alastair> no need it is already installed :D
[01:40] <Alastair> just type glxgears in terminal...
[01:40] <hagisbasheruk> lol
[01:40] <Alastair> hm... i see ~300fps improvement
[01:42] <hagisbasheruk> 575 frames in 5.0 seconds = 114.817 FPS
[01:42] <hagisbasheruk> 577 frames in 5.0 seconds = 115.378 FPS
[01:42] <hagisbasheruk> 3254 frames in 5.0 seconds = 650.771 FPS
[01:42] <hagisbasheruk> 3235 frames in 5.0 seconds = 646.989 FPS
[01:42] <hagisbasheruk> 3432 frames in 5.0 seconds = 686.218 FPS
[01:42] <hagisbasheruk> 3117 frames in 5.0 seconds = 623.283 FPS
[01:42] <hagisbasheruk> 3340 frames in 5.0 seconds = 667.988 FPS
[01:42] <hagisbasheruk> 1166 frames in 5.0 seconds = 232.789 FPS
[01:42] <hagisbasheruk> 520 frames in 5.0 seconds = 103.911 FPS
[01:42] <hagisbasheruk> 1007 frames in 5.0 seconds = 201.195 FPS
[01:42] <hagisbasheruk> 494 frames in 5.0 seconds = 98.491 FPS
[01:42] <hagisbasheruk> 568 frames in 5.0 seconds = 113.442 FPS
[01:42] <hagisbasheruk> 1242 frames in 5.0 seconds = 248.219 FPS
[01:42] <hagisbasheruk> 459 frames in 5.0 seconds = 91.722 FPS
[01:43] <hagisbasheruk> 646 frames in 5.0 seconds = 129.200 FPS
[01:43] <hagisbasheruk> 3212 frames in 5.0 seconds = 642.354 FPS
[01:43] <Alastair> lol lol stop xD
[01:43] <Alastair> definitely works.... b4 this i got ~300fps
[01:43] <Alastair> now it's almost double
[01:44] <hagisbasheruk> :)
[01:47] <Alastair> on my main pc i get around 13000 xD
[01:48] <hagisbasheruk> lol
[01:48] <Alastair> and that was with grossly underclocked video...
[01:49] <hagisbasheruk> i wonder if the umpc will get a lpia kernel at some point
[01:50] <hagisbasheruk> battery life sucks
[01:50] <Alastair> i have around 2hrs with wifi
[01:50] <hagisbasheruk> me 2
[01:50] <Alastair> my battery sux tho...
[01:50] <Alastair> 4500mah
[01:51] <Alastair> afaik the acer has bigger battery
[01:52] <Alastair> have you tried the lpia image ?
[01:52] <hagisbasheruk> 2200mAh
[01:52] <Alastair> theoretically if it's x86 it should boot on a normal pc ..
[01:52] <hagisbasheruk> yes on netbook remix
[01:53] <Alastair> :s
[01:53] <Alastair> my bat has twice the capacity yet survives for the same amount of time... wtf
[01:54] <hagisbasheruk> my bios acpi or what ever it is must be better
[01:55] <Alastair> nah
[01:55] <Alastair> no matter how better it is this shouldn't be happening :s
[01:55] <hagisbasheruk> :P
[01:56] <Alastair> i guess the ssd is more economical, but even so ....
[01:56] <hagisbasheruk> oh i did power saving mods to sdd
[01:57] <hagisbasheruk> i have hdd version of ASPIRE ONE
[01:57] <hagisbasheruk> oops
[01:58] <hagisbasheruk> script polls sd reader to see if card is present and if not it powers it down
[02:00] <hagisbasheruk> i will get bigger bat after new year sometime
[02:01] <Alastair> hm...dunno...
[02:01] <Alastair> i've seen external battery packs...
[02:01] <hagisbasheruk> cheep?
[02:01] <Alastair> but they cost almost as new pc ....
[02:01] <hagisbasheruk> lol , sod that
[02:07] <hagisbasheruk> i found a nice way to save bookmarks with midbrowser, grab icon in adrressbar and put on top taskbar
[02:07] <hagisbasheruk> then move to desktop later
[02:08] <Alastair> i removed the midbrowser asap... i'm too addicted to the classical firefox
[02:15] <hagisbasheruk> :)
[02:16] <hagisbasheruk> i guess you can always use F11
[02:16] <hagisbasheruk> To decrease boot time, activate concurrency bootup:  sudo gedit /etc/init.d/rc  and replace the line:
[02:17] <hagisbasheruk>     * CONCURRENCY=none
[02:17] <hagisbasheruk> with
[02:17] <hagisbasheruk>     * CONCURRENCY=shell
[02:17] <hagisbasheruk> brb going to test that now
[02:20] <hagisbasheruk> never noticed any difference , mabey on next boot
[02:29] <Alastair> omg... what the heck...
[02:29] <Alastair> did you see the size of gta4 x_x
[02:29] <Alastair> 2 dual-layer dvds ...
[02:30] <hagisbasheruk> lol
[02:30] <hagisbasheruk> no blue ray :)
[02:30] <Alastair> that standart was doomed from the beginning
[02:32] <Alastair> we want holographic disks xD
[02:33] <hagisbasheruk> there is a mic fix coming http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-kernel.git;a=commitdiff;h=8ef355da64ff087b6f26c4c28a14753861e83e4b
[02:34] <hagisbasheruk> available in kernel 2.6.28-rc2
[02:35] <Alastair> hm...
[02:36] <Alastair> i reckon 9.04 will be the distro for this machines...
[02:37] <Alastair> they came out too late for intrepid devs to include support for them :/
[02:37] <hagisbasheruk> sudo update-manager -d and see a surprise
[02:38] <Alastair> the wireless link is down, i can't xD
[02:38] <hagisbasheruk>  Welcome to Ubuntu 9.04 'Jaunty Jackalope' =
[02:38] <hagisbasheruk> *** THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT RELEASE ***
[02:38] <hagisbasheruk> The Ubuntu team is proud to announce Ubuntu 9.04 'Jaunty Jackalope'.
[02:39] <Alastair> yea, i know, they released the alpha some time ago...
[02:39] <hagisbasheruk> i got to go for it , lets see what breaks
[02:39] <Alastair> nothing yet
[02:39] <Alastair> just incremental updates over intrepid...wait for the beta
[02:40] <hagisbasheruk> 2 l8
[02:43] <hagisbasheruk> i guess i can just fill in bugs for a while until everything is running great on the AAO
[02:48] <hagisbasheruk> bed time , good night
[08:58] <skotti_> Hello everyone
[08:58] <skotti_> Any python-guru around?
[09:13] <playya_> skotti_, just ask your question. maybe someone mght help you.
[09:29] <skotti_> playya_: Thanks for the hint.
[09:30] <skotti_> I'm trying to start an executable from within python using os.popen( os.P_NOWAIT , <program-file> )
[09:30] <skotti_> I want the program to start (while i do a time.wait(X)) and then the pythin script executes a number of LDTP commands
[09:32] <skotti_> But the process is not detached, popen blocks further execution
[09:32] <skotti_> This is probably because a pipe is opened, but i don't need it.
[09:54] <playya_> skotti_, if you don't need the pipes you might use os.system
[09:56] <skotti_> playya_: I tried that but the python script just stops
[09:57] <skotti_> The program (be it gedit for convenience) opens and python waits for the process to end
[10:00] <playya_> could you paste some code?
[10:01] <skotti_> yep
[10:01] <skotti_> program = os.path.join( ' ','usr','bin','gedit' )
[10:01] <skotti_> print "hello"
[10:02] <skotti_> os.system( program )
[10:02] <skotti_> print "hello again"
[10:02] <skotti_> [...]
[10:02] <skotti_> the second print is executed only if i manually close gedit
[10:05] <skotti_> Alternativly i tried os.spawnl( os.P_NOWAIT, program ) which - to my surprise - does not start gedit but continues ok...
[10:05] <playya_> tried to remoce the os.P_NOWAIT ?
[10:05] <playya_> works for me
[10:06] <skotti_> Trying now...
[10:07] <skotti_> os.spawnl() takes at least 2 arguments
[10:08] <playya_> os.popen( program )
[10:08] <playya_> <open file ' /usr/bin/gedit', mode 'r' at 0x7fa18caf6d50>
[10:09] <skotti_> I get "No spawning" as message.
[10:09] <skotti_> And then it waits for me to close gedit
[10:11] <hagisbasheruk> ogra, you might want to put a not on the webpage about after you install the linux-backports-modules from /deb/ folder , after you do an update before you reboot , sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic ,mabey you could word it better than me and i hope you understand what i mean
[10:11] <hagisbasheruk> good morning everyone
[10:11] <hagisbasheruk> not=note P
[10:13] <hagisbasheruk> if you reboot without doing so you won't have the linux-backport-modules-2.6.27-9-generic so you lose wifi
[10:13] <hagisbasheruk> as kernel gets updated
[10:14] <skotti_> playya_: Tricky thing, i have to give up on that for now. Anyway, thanks for your help, i appreciate that very much.
[10:58] <Alastair> the current kernel version is 2.6.27-10
[10:59] <Alastair> but the backports version in the repos is older
[10:59] <Alastair> so if you update you loose wifi anyway...
[11:03] <hagisbasheruk> i have2.6.27-9-generic
[11:05] <hagisbasheruk> says my system is upto date
[11:05] <hagisbasheruk> ohh distro upgrade went wrong , no intel driver for xorg
[11:06] <hagisbasheruk> sso had to redo everything
[11:08] <hagisbasheruk> oh and good morning Alastair playya_ skotti_ cprov and everyone else :)
[11:08] <cprov> hagisbasheruk: morning.
[11:08] <skotti_> Hi hagisbasheruk
[11:09] <skotti_> playya_: Trivial solution to my popen-problem: assign the object.
[11:09] <skotti_> f_obj = os.popen( somefile )
[11:10] <playya_> good idea
[11:10] <playya_> i only tested it in the python shell
[11:10] <playya_> hi hagisbasheruk
[11:10] <hagisbasheruk> :)
[11:15] <hagisbasheruk> [Ubuntu UK Podcast] S01E19 - Love Letters - http://podcast.ubuntu-uk.org/2008/12/03/s01e19-love-letters/
[11:15] <hagisbasheruk> podcast time :)
[11:17] <Alastair> mornin...
[11:17] <Alastair> hagisbasheruk, maybe it depends on which update server are you using...
[11:17] <Alastair> i'm using the main server
[11:17] <Alastair> and the latest kernel is 27-10 :D
[11:17] <hagisbasheruk> ahh using uk servers here
[11:19] <Alastair> lol
[11:19] <Alastair> at last i feel good about my quad :D
[11:19] <hagisbasheruk> you got a quad bike :P
[11:19] <Alastair> ppl say gta4 is making very good use
[11:19] <Alastair> (of the extra cores) xD
[11:20] <hagisbasheruk> good , what video card/s u using
[11:20] <Alastair> currently 7950GT :(
[11:20] <hagisbasheruk> 8600GT here
[11:21] <Alastair> i had 3870 x2
[11:22] <Alastair> now i'm considering 9800gtx+ or 4850...
[11:22] <Alastair> i should've tested the ati with ubuntu b4 i sold it :/
[11:22] <hagisbasheruk> i am never upgrading the pc now i have given it to the misses
[11:26] <Alastair> :s
[11:26] <Alastair> dunno... i'll never give up the big screen... ^^
[11:26] <Alastair> nor the processing power..
[11:26] <Alastair> the notebook is for outside use only :D
[11:29] <hagisbasheruk> brb
[11:29] <Alastair> aw
[11:29] <Alastair> love my ISP xD
[11:29] <Alastair> the gigabit connection rulez
[11:32] <hagisbasheruk> ??
[11:33] <Alastair> 51MB/s download
[11:33] <Alastair> from the local NAS
[11:34] <Alastair> average speed 26,95 :p
[11:35] <hagisbasheruk> whall !!
[11:36] <Alastair> 7.04GB in under 3 minutes
[11:37] <hagisbasheruk> i have 16 meg broad band , average 1.7Kb/s
[11:37] <hagisbasheruk> Mb/s
[11:37] <hagisbasheruk> even
[11:37] <Alastair> yea, but wait for the shocker - i'm paying for thes goodness only 12.5 euro xD
[11:38] <hagisbasheruk> can i get your isp here in uk :)
[11:39] <Alastair> it is a branch of some international organisation afaik....maybe they have something in uk, dunno
[11:39] <hagisbasheruk> how long have you had that type of speed ?
[11:40] <Alastair> but the reason i'm getting such speeds is that both me and their NAS are connected to the same backbone fiber channel...
[11:40] <Alastair> most of the users ain't that lucky
[11:40] <hagisbasheruk> :)
[11:41] <Alastair> lol
[11:41] <Alastair> the second image averaged at 49MB/s xD
[11:42] <hagisbasheruk> you should setup an ubuntu mirror :P
[11:43] <Alastair> we already have one i think... and 2 more in bulgaria
[11:44] <Alastair> idk if they completed it tho...
[11:53] <Alastair> nah... they made debian and slack mirrors, the ubuntu one was cancelled
[11:54] <hagisbasheruk> back la8 got stuff to do now
[13:15] <NCommander> morning ogra
[13:16] <ogra> hey NCommander
[13:16] <NCommander> ogra, how goes it?
[13:17] <ogra> cursing rpm
[13:17] <ogra> the autofoo stuff is a total mess
[13:18] <NCommander> :-)
[13:18] <NCommander> MID on x86/amd64 should be usable AFAIK
[13:18] <NCommander> THere are a still a few hildon specific things broken (on my todo list of things to look over)
[13:19] <NCommander> but it should just work I hope
[13:19] <ogra> cool
[13:19] <NCommander> We need to modify casper on mid however to work without an Ubuntu user :-)
[13:19] <ogra> uh, why ?
[13:19] <ogra> the settings package should create one
[13:21] <NCommander> If you use ubiquity to install, you don't get one
[13:21] <NCommander> I filed a bug about it
[17:38] <crevette> hello
[17:38] <crevette> superm1: hey, are you interested in sponsoring an upload of obex-data-server 0.4.2 ?
[17:41] <superm1> crevette, for jaunty?
[17:41] <crevette> superm1: yep, sorry
[17:41] <superm1> crevette, have you tested to make sure that it still works with the rest of the bluez stuff (at least the functional stuff) already?
[17:41] <crevette> superm1: I use it for weeks, it solvd the various we add with gnome-user-share
[17:41] <crevette> had
[17:43] <superm1> crevette, ah very good.  sure i can sponsor it then. do you have it published somewhere for me to grab?
[17:48] <crevette> superm1: I'm trying to find a place and a way to host it because gvfs in jaunty seems broken for me
[17:48] <superm1> crevette, PPA perhaps?
[17:48] <crevette> I can host any file ?
[17:49] <superm1> well it's a source package that gets sponsored, and even get a free test build so i dont have to run one here :)
[17:49] <crevette> superm1: https://edge.launchpad.net/~bmillemathias/+archive
[17:51] <crevette> let me rebuild it for jaunty
[17:51] <crevette> as launchpad permit that
[20:10] <superm1> crevette, i tried to build in my jaunty sbuild (amd64): http://pastebin.com/f2ab7c8a6
[20:11] <superm1> so you'll need to sort out what's going on there
[20:11] <crevette> okay
[20:11] <crevette> it seems the package name has changed
[20:12] <crevette> thanks for hte feedback, I was busy until now
[20:12] <crevette> I was to push my package to ppa to test the build (I didn't build it for jaunty yet)
[20:31] <crevette> superm1: I saw that debian/ changes was now handled in bzr, should I do something to commit files ?
[20:32] <crevette> or provide you a patch ?
[20:35] <superm1> oh yeah i forgot that we moved it to bzr.  yeah you should put together a bzr branch to merge or commit to yourself.
[20:35] <superm1> i believe it's owned by ubuntu-dev
[20:41] <crevette> yep it is
[20:46] <crevette> superm1: I don't understand why the dput server (don't know how it is called) denies me to upload my package stating intrepid has already such package but my package is for jaunty ...
[20:47] <crevette> this why I still not have uploaded it
[20:47] <crevette> +is
[23:44]  * Hobbsee hopes crevette is *not* a MOTU
[23:45] <Hobbsee> oh good.  He isn't :)
[23:45]  * Hobbsee sends him an email to answer the question
[23:46] <persia> Hobbsee, ?
[23:47] <Hobbsee> persia: the last question above
[23:47]  * persia is still over a week behind on backscroll, and peeks ahead
[23:48] <Hobbsee> persia: don't worry :)
[23:49] <persia> Hobbsee, probably bluetooth-team PPA
[23:49] <Hobbsee> persia: must be.  There's nowhere else he could dput to, that it would work, i think
[23:50] <persia> Well, own-PPA, but yeah.


[07:34] <amachu> லோக் சத்தாக்காக் உழைச்சவங்க தொடருங்க. குக்கட்பள்ளி மாதரி நிறைய ஊருகள் வருங்காலத்தில் கிடைக்கும். தலைவர்களை கன்னடத்தில பேச எழுதச் சொல்லுங்க முதலில்.
[07:35] <amachu> that was a wrong channel
[07:35] <amachu> sorry
[14:59] <ev> o/
[15:00]  * slangasek waves
[15:00] <stokachu> o/
[15:01] <slangasek> #startmeeting
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[15:01] <slangasek> [TOPIC] lightning round
[15:01] <slangasek> $ echo $(shuf -e barry doko stgraber jodh ev bdmurray slangasek cjwatson xnox stokachu)
[15:01] <slangasek> stgraber doko ev slangasek xnox barry bdmurray cjwatson stokachu jodh
[15:01] <slangasek> stgraber: hi :)
[15:02]  * stgraber waves
[15:02] <stgraber> First report in a month or so. Been traveling, releasing 13.04, sprinting and finally back home.
[15:02] <stgraber> Feature work:
[15:02] <stgraber>  - Image based updates (BLUEPRINT: foundations-1305-image-based-updates)
[15:02] <stgraber>   - Finalized design of the whole solution during the sprint, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ImageBasedUpgrades
[15:02] <stgraber>   - Implemented early proof of concept server-side at: https://phablet.stgraber.org (sprint channel)
[15:02] <stgraber>   - Got a working test client at: lp:~stgraber/+junk/resolver-sprint-demo
[15:02] <stgraber>   - Started rewriting the current server code to move from squashfs to tar.xz and run without privileges
[15:02] <stgraber>   - Opened RT ticket for the server infrastructure
[15:02] <stgraber>   - Trying to get the next steps for the GPG side of things sorted
[15:02] <stgraber>  - Mobile sync and provisioning (OMA)
[15:02] <stgraber>   - Spent some time discussing with Tony Espy about state of OMA CP in Android and how the ofono/android driver will deal with that
[15:02] <stgraber> Other work:
[15:02] <stgraber>  - Merges. isc-dhcp merged, netbase synced, started looking at ifupdown and ifenslave-2.6
[15:02] <stgraber>  - Changed dependencies of ltt-control as we now have lttng in the Ubuntu kernel
[15:02] <stgraber>  - Bugfixes/SRU for LXC, cherry-picking high priority bugs into 13.04
[15:02] <stgraber>  - Upstart in saucy now has user sessions enabled by default. The only Xsession script that had to be ported was gpg-agent.
[15:02] <stgraber>  - Some work on the QA tracker to allow product leads to trigger rebuilds
[15:03] <stgraber>  - Reinstalled my usual set of test machines on saucy
[15:03] <stgraber> TODO:
[15:03] <stgraber>  - Continue porting the image based server side code to python3-tarfile
[15:03] <stgraber>  - Get some kind of UI and API on the new rebuild feature of the QA tracker
[15:03] <stgraber>  - Continue with the remaining merges
[15:03] <stgraber> (DONE)
[15:05] <stokachu> stgraber: that pattern matching for dhcp worked awesome
[15:05] <stokachu> thanks for that
[15:06] <slangasek> doko: around?
[15:07] <stgraber> stokachu: yay! should have thought of that before I applied that patch to 13.04, we could have save ourselves that patch entirely ;)
[15:09] <slangasek> ev: go ahead
[15:09] <ev> very short week - sprint last week, holiday Monday and Tuesday
[15:09] <ev> Stagingstack deployments of the entire infrastructure now exist as of the sprint - https://errors.staging.ubuntu.com/
[15:09] <ev> Spending my time getting the final bits done on the charms so we can go live on prodstack (OOPS reporting to a central server, handling our various cron jobs, etc)
[15:09] <ev> (done - iknowright?)
[15:09] <barry> :-o
[15:10] <slangasek> !
[15:10] <ev> ha
[15:11] <slangasek>  * in Oakland last week - lots and lots of planning meetings :)
[15:11] <slangasek>   * these will feed into the public discussions at vUDS next week - many of the relevant blueprints have already been registered
[15:11] <slangasek>  * doing merges for saucy; merged kexec-tools, then ran into a terribly knotty acpica-unix NMU that needs serious fixing before getting merged
[15:11] <slangasek>  * working on syncing Debian/Ubuntu on the upstart architecture
[15:11] <slangasek>  * on vacation next week, so will miss UDS for the most part... if you have any sessions you need me at, be sure to ping me directly and I'll see if I can make it
[15:11] <slangasek> (done)
[15:11] <slangasek> xnox on vacation
[15:11] <slangasek> barry:
[15:11] <barry> - recovering from the sprint (i.e. getting my inbox to below 500 messages ;)
[15:11] <barry> - merging in and refactoring resolver fixes from the plane ride and stgraber's demo branch.  switching gpg code over to python3-gnupg which provides a somewhat more straightforward api (despite missing an necessary feature, easily hacked around).
[15:11] <barry> - lp:~barry/+junk/resolver is the canonical location and should now be up-to-date
[15:11] <barry> - lots of TODOs described in the branch.  top priorities include checking image zip signatures and plumbing through the reboot initiation.
[15:11] <barry> done.
[15:12] <bdmurray> ubuntu-release-upgrader bug triage
[15:12] <bdmurray> investigation into bug 390319
[15:12] <bdmurray> investigation into bug 1175637 regarding kernels being marked as manually installed
[15:12] <bdmurray> testing / fixing of package-version-new-buckets API call on errors
[15:12] <bdmurray> uploaded apport bug fix for cloud_archive hook error in 1173240
[15:12] <bdmurray> worked on phased updater glue code between launchpad and errors
[15:12] <bdmurray> ✔ done
[15:14] <cjwatson> Really being kicked in the head by jetlag this week.  Apologies for doziness.
[15:14] <cjwatson> foundations-1305-arm64-bringup: Resurrected the auto-cross-builder and finished off raring builds last week.  Need to start it up for saucy.
[15:14] <cjwatson> A bit of UDS prep.  I've registered all the blueprints I know we want at this point.
[15:14] <cjwatson> foundations-1305-click-package: Prepared and posted initial click-package announcement.  Publicising prototype early next week; need to make some progress on new unpack directory layout and hooks interface before then.
[15:14] <cjwatson> Packaged OpenSSH 6.2p1.
[15:14] <cjwatson> Various merges and such.  Went through a number of packages orphaned in Debian and applied Ubuntu patches to them so we can sync.
[15:14] <cjwatson> Holiday on Friday.
[15:14] <cjwatson> ..
[15:15] <stokachu> bug 1022545 - Waiting on SRU
[15:15] <stokachu> bug 1144612 - Waiting on SRU
[15:15] <stokachu> bug 1169740 - Waiting on SRU
[15:15] <stokachu> bug 604717 - I dont believe this is SRU worthy, would like opinion.
[15:15] <stokachu> bug 1175687 - This is for one binary but we might as well convert rpm to multi-arch
[15:15] <stokachu> bug 857983 - In verified state, needs some attention to move forward
[15:15] <stokachu> bug 1004775 - This just hit unapproved queue, however, due to importance would like to see this approved.
[15:15] <stokachu> bug 1121874 - Just uploaded, needs sponsor/sru, not expecting that today but just to add to my current list.
[15:15] <stokachu> misc:
[15:15] <stokachu>   - Going to start looking existing porting efforts of ubuntu touch to sgs2 and attempt to contribute
[15:15] <stokachu>   - continue working on python-salesforce
[15:15] <stokachu> (done)
[15:16]  * doko woke up
[15:16] <cjwatson> You're having a day like mine then ...
[15:17] <slangasek> stokachu: bug #604717 might be SRU-worthy, *if* the current behavior results in services trying to start out of order and failing
[15:18] <stokachu> slangasek: ok ill follow up with support/OP
[15:18] <slangasek> stokachu: #857983> according to http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html, there's another bug in that upload, bug #796171, which hasn't been verified yet
[15:19] <stokachu> slangasek: ah my bad i keep forgetting to check that page
[15:19] <slangasek> stokachu: 1175687> looks straightforward; do you need support there, or are you just going to push a patch to sponsors?
[15:20] <slangasek> stokachu: oh, and is that the t-mobile sgs2 or the international sgs2? :)
[15:20] <stokachu> at&t i777
[15:20] <stokachu> at least thats the one i have
[15:21] <slangasek> stgraber: can you take bug #1004775?
[15:21] <slangasek> ah drat
[15:21] <slangasek> that helps me not at all!
[15:21] <stokachu> haha sorry! :D
[15:21] <slangasek> doko: morning!  want to give your status?
[15:22] <stgraber> slangasek: I'd be happy to if I was on the SRU team ;)
[15:22] <slangasek> stgraber: oh, I thought it still needed sponsorship
[15:22] <stgraber> slangasek: nope, it's in unapproved
[15:22] <slangasek> well, FINE then
[15:22] <slangasek> :)
[15:22] <stokachu> yea that one just hit unapproved queue
[15:23] <stokachu> but its a hot one :)
[15:23] <slangasek> I'll have a look at it this morning
[15:23] <stokachu> cool man really appreciate it
[15:23] <slangasek> doko: ?
[15:24] <doko> ahh
[15:25] <doko> - started with merges
[15:25] <doko> - preparing a test rebuild
[15:25] <doko> - tomorrow is bank holiday, and intending not to work on Friday (swapping the May 1 bank holiday)
[15:25] <doko> (end)
[15:26] <slangasek> :-)
[15:26] <slangasek> [TOPIC] Bugs
[15:26] <slangasek> bdmurray: you had a bug you posted to the team list earlier... did anyone follow up on that?
[15:26] <slangasek> (I've misplaced the mail so I don't have the bug #, sorry)
[15:27] <bdmurray> I think infinity did and kirkland added a merge proosal
[15:27] <slangasek> ok
[15:27] <bdmurray> https://code.launchpad.net/~kirkland/ubuntu-release-upgrader/1173209/+merge/162798
[15:27] <stokachu> bug 859600 is not blocked by the other keyring bug
[15:27] <stokachu> but i think libgcr needs multi-arch now
[15:28] <slangasek> bdmurray: so we'll leave that in infinity's hands?
[15:28] <bdmurray> slangasek: yes, sounds good
[15:28] <stokachu> bug 1094496 was verified by OP
[15:29] <slangasek> stokachu: yep, so that's good for publication... 859600 needs sponsorship then?
[15:29] <stokachu> slangasek: yes sir
[15:30] <slangasek> can someone here sponsor gnome-keyring to precise for bug #859600?  it's been pending for a while... now that it's unblocked on the other SRU, we should get that in
[15:31] <slangasek> stgraber: how about you, since the last bug didn't stick? ;)
[15:32] <stgraber> slangasek: sure, I can take that one ;)
[15:33] <stokachu> also bug 1022545 and 1144612 needs sponsors
[15:34] <slangasek> stokachu: if nobody gets to them before then, I have my patch pilot day coming up next week
[15:34] <stokachu> slangasek: ok sounds good
[15:34] <slangasek> [TOPIC] AOB
[15:34] <slangasek> anything else, then?
[15:35] <stokachu> im good
[15:36] <slangasek> anyone? :)
[15:37] <doko> im tired
[15:38]  * slangasek lets doko get back to being a zombie
[15:38] <slangasek> #endmeeting
[15:38] <meetingology> Meeting ended Wed May  8 15:38:14 2013 UTC.
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[15:38] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2013/ubuntu-meeting.2013-05-08-15.01.html
[15:38] <slangasek> thanks, all :)
[15:38] <barry> thanks!
[15:38] <ev> thanks
[15:39] <stokachu> thanks


 Hi! I have digiKam running the dlna server. On my Kodi box I can open the digiKam media server and see the file names - but they do not display the images! How do I get the photos the show?
 Probably a Kodi issue! 🤷🏻♂
 Yes, apparently this function, dlna picture viewing, does not work in Kodi. Ugh!
[01:02] <reaganmcf> Hey guys, been using Kubuntu for like 3 days now. I've installed a theme but there is some issues on some applications where it looks awful / can't read the buttons
[01:03] <reaganmcf> https://store.kde.org/p/1450880/
[01:03] <reaganmcf> This is the theme I am using
[01:04] <reaganmcf> An example of the issue I am having is in LibreOffice writer, where I can't see any of the options (i can still interact, but the font color is black so I can barely see it)
[01:04] <reaganmcf> https://i.gyazo.com/a0b45bcbffd30d1f82e4f8696722d17d.png
[01:04] <reaganmcf> If there is a better place to ask this question I would love to be directed there
 My kubuntu system m reboot by itself
 Anyone know about it
 This*
[13:07] <Xeladzsi> Sziasztok
[13:12] <Maik> !hu
[13:12] <Maik> Xeladzsi: ^
[13:13] <Maik> but if you speak english
[13:13] <Maik> !ask
[13:13] <Maik> !discuss
[13:15] <Xeladzsi> köszönöm ubottu
[13:17] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
 How can I create a minimal I installation of Ubuntu and kde … No extra apps or anything just these two things, … I searched and found a old answer that there is way by getting Ubuntu server iso and then installing kde plasma desktop on it, … I wanna know is it possible now too? Or is there a better way?
[13:55] <BluesKaj> not mant users have desktop on ubuntu-server
[13:55] <BluesKaj> many
 @BluesKaj, Actually it's for my desktop,
[13:58] <BluesKaj> if you want minimalst then kde-plasma is probly not the best choice
[14:02] <BluesKaj> @youtube_dQw4w9WgXcQ, tell us what you really want :-)
 @BluesKaj, I tried others like Gnome, Linux mint,  … Even lubuntu altho it is lite but doesn't look good (no dark theme) … Xfce is almost equal to kde
[14:03] <BluesKaj> so you want just one desktop and kde-plasma is it ?
 @BluesKaj, Ubuntu based Minimal KDE setup that's all
 @BluesKaj, I guess
[14:06] <BluesKaj> mine is kind of barebones , I don't add many packages other than the default ones, it's a plain kubuntu install
[14:08] <BluesKaj> Ubuntu based Minimal KDE is called Kubuntu :-)
[14:09] <BluesKaj> you can always remove packages that you won't use as well, i think that's the best approach
[14:10] <BluesKaj> remove or even purge
 @BluesKaj, That's what I have right now... …  does kde have minimal version?
[14:11] <BluesKaj> not that i know of
[14:11] <BluesKaj> why, do you have issues of some kind?
 @BluesKaj, Nah not any issues, I just have low ram (4gb) so just wanna remove a bit footprint
[14:15] <BluesKaj> you could increase your swapiness/swap file
[14:20] <BluesKaj> or stop some daemon processes that you don't use https://opensource.com/article/20/1/linux-kill-killall
 @BluesKaj, Right,  … Although my current setup isn't bad, … It uses 500-600 MB ram on boot, … The lightest lubuntu uses 300-400 … Just searching for alternatives,  … Maybe will try arch
[14:36] <BluesKaj> perhaps invest abit of money in extra RAM, it's really not that expensive anymore
[14:37] <BluesKaj> even 2GB extra will make a noticeable difference
[14:40] <BluesKaj> arch is not easier on memory than ubuntu based/debian based OSs https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/5l39tz/linux_distros_ram_consumption_comparison_updated/
 @BluesKaj, Yes, I should if I could, … But it's a old hp laptop which i only use for testing/learning purpose, and its not upgradeble I think,
[14:43] <BluesKaj> maybe xfce is your best bet then
 @BluesKaj, That's great dude,  … this guy literally tested all of these...  … wondering if it was automated or collaborative,  … Although it's a bit old 2016 I think
 @BluesKaj, Oh I forgot xfce manjaro(arch) , it's in my one other partition, … I didn't booted in it after testing it... Haha … But it's similar to kde in ram consumption … Earlier I was talking about the arch from scratch
[15:40] <Thais0569> Gostaria de saber qual a autenticação do meu pc
 Hi, any plans to support Plasma 5.21 in a new ISO release?
 Plasma 5.21 will be in Kubuntu 21.04
 @RikMills, Cheers, I’ll take a look at a daily build.
 @SwissMontreux, it will only be the 5.21 beta in that for a while. The 5.21.0 release tomorrow will be uploaded, but won't reach the release repo where packages for the ISO are taken until the Ubuntu core development team fix some of their stuff which will block it. :(
 Annoying, as it would be lovely to be able to spin an ISO with it on on the day, but doing updates of core stuff for all flavours cannot stop
 core as in: https://www.gnu.org/software/libc/
 @RikMills, Ok and thanks for the extra info
 I had forgotten how slick kubuntu was, I'm a Win10 person but I really want to/am ditching MS and I have been playing with Pop_OS.. Well i was, Kbuntu it is from now on for the Intel NUC. All that's needed now is Evernote on Linux which is the remaining missing link...


[23:49] <IdleOne> IRCC Please re-ACK my @ubuntu/member cloak https://launchpad.net/~idleone I won't be dropping it again.


[20:26] <CarstenG> Hi together.
[20:28] <cqfd93> Hi CarstenG!
[20:29] <CarstenG> What is with our manual?
[20:29] <CarstenG> Today is the great day :-)
[20:29] <cqfd93> Yes!
[20:30] <cqfd93> Is the manual supposed to be on the official release dvd?
[20:30] <CarstenG> As far as I know, not.
[20:31] <CarstenG> It is released separately on our website.
[20:31] <cqfd93> Just asking, but it would be great :-)
[20:31] <CarstenG> Yes, of course.
[20:31] <godbyk> It doesn't get released on the DVD.
[20:31] <godbyk> Just on our website and amazon.com, etc.
[20:32] <godbyk> I'm working on releasing it as we speak.
[20:32] <godbyk> So don't tell me about any more typos! ;-)
[20:32] <CarstenG> We should try to get the next release in the official iso.
[20:32] <cqfd93> hi godbyk!
[20:32] <CarstenG> ah, I just saw rev 206
[20:32] <manualbot> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual/raring/revision/206 | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual/raring -r 206
[20:33] <cqfd93> time to pull and make
[20:33] <CarstenG> Kevin, we will find typos after the release ;-)
[20:34] <cqfd93> sure!!!
[20:34] <cqfd93> ;-)
[20:35] <godbyk> We always do!
[20:35] <cqfd93> When will the template ready for translation?
[20:35] <cqfd93> *be ready
[20:35] <godbyk> As soon as I've finished uploading these PDFs, I'll fix up the .tex files, generate the .pot file, and upload that.
[20:36] <cqfd93> ok
[20:36] <CarstenG> I think we should remove these \clearpages and [baselineskip] before generating the pot file.
[20:40] <godbyk> CarstenG: That's what I meant about 'fix up the .tex files'. :)
[20:40] <CarstenG> ah, ok :-)
[20:48] <godbyk> Okay, I've uploaded the PDFs and updated the ubuntu-manual.org website.
[20:48] <godbyk> I have to wait on CreateSpace to proof the book before I can update the 'Buy this book!' link.
[20:49] <CarstenG> Nice :-)
[20:51] <godbyk> While I wait on CreateSpace, I'll fix things up and upload the .pot file for the translators.
[20:52] <godbyk> Then write a press release announcing the publication of the manual.
[20:52] <CarstenG>  What did I say at 22:33?
[20:52] <godbyk> Then write notes to translators so they can get started (assuming the .pot file doesn't get held up for some reason).
[20:52] <CarstenG> ... I just found a typo in the index :-)
[20:52] <godbyk> CarstenG: I don't want to hear it! ;-)
[20:52] <godbyk> Where's it at?
[20:53] <CarstenG> »CDs and DVDs« is twice.
[20:53] <cqfd93> :-D
[20:54] <godbyk> Ah, I see it.
[20:54] <godbyk> Not a huge show-stopper, at least.
[20:54] <CarstenG> and this Nautilus-->Files renaming looks bad in the index.
[20:54] <CarstenG> We have »Files«, »files« and »files and folders«...
[20:54] <godbyk> You mean having a Files entry?
[20:54] <godbyk> yeah.
[20:55] <godbyk> I think 'Files browser' may have been a better choice there.
[20:55] <godbyk> Have they named the S cycle yet?
[20:55] <godbyk> I hate having to wait so long to create the new branch.
[20:56] <CarstenG> yes, saucy salamander, or?
[20:56] <CarstenG> mom
[20:56] <CarstenG> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252
[20:57] <godbyk> Ah, yes: saucy salamander.
[20:57] <godbyk> Good.
[20:57] <godbyk> So I can create the new branch right away and we can put some of our fixes in there before we forget about them. :-)
[20:59] <CarstenG> the cds and dvds we can fix in raring too, or?
[21:00] <godbyk> Nah.
[21:00] <godbyk> It doesn't look the best, but it doesn't really stop people from finding the information.
[21:00] <godbyk> We really do need to proofread the index more frequently, though.
[21:01] <CarstenG> for the pot file, I mean ...
[21:01] <godbyk> Oh, if you can track down the problem quickly, then sure.
[21:01] <CarstenG> I give my best :-)
[21:12] <godbyk> CarstenG: Any luck?
[21:12] <CarstenG> not yet
[21:13] <CarstenG> the "burning" entry is with the new \indexstart and indexend...
[21:13] <CarstenG> mybe there is the problem...
[21:16] <cqfd93> I too, think this "burning" entry might be the problem
[21:17] <CarstenG> and it is the indexstart and indexend :-) If I change it back to the previous syntax with |( and |) then it works...
[21:18] <CarstenG> stange.
[21:18] <CarstenG> strange.
[21:20] <CarstenG> this burning entry is the only one , which has a @ inside. (in the group of indexstart and ~end)
[21:22] <CarstenG> so maybe this creates an error with the argument #1 in the \newcommand?
[21:25] <godbyk> Hmm.. I'm not sure.
[21:25] <godbyk> I guess we'll have to poke around there.
[21:27] <cqfd93> Got to leave (time to go to bed) Bye!
[21:27] <CarstenG> Yes, I will upload the change back from insexstart to |(
[21:27] <CarstenG> by Sylvie.
[21:27] <CarstenG> I will follow you in 5 min :-)
[21:28] <cqfd93> :-)
[21:29] <godbyk> CarstenG: Okay.
[21:29] <godbyk> Otherwise, I'm ready to generate the .pot file.
[21:29] <CarstenG> pull
[21:30] <CarstenG> commit
[21:30] <CarstenG> and push
[21:30] <CarstenG> online :-)
[21:30] <godbyk> :)
[21:30] <godbyk> Rebuilding PDF...
[21:31] <godbyk> Yeah, that looks better.
[21:31] <godbyk> Generating pot file...
[21:32] <CarstenG> great :-)
[21:32] <CarstenG> ok, time for bed now.
[21:32] <godbyk> 'kay. See you later.
[21:32] <godbyk> Thanks for your help, CarstenG!
[21:33] <CarstenG> Let's see how much is translated tomorrow :-)
[21:33] <CarstenG> Your are welcome :-)
[21:33] <CarstenG> See you
[21:33] <CarstenG> g night


[03:08] <naboko> ok
[07:24] <user|63793> hello
[07:25] <user|63793> i'll install kubuntu in dual boot I just want to know how heavy it is is someone now :)
[07:26] <Maik> depending on the hardware kubuntu uses up between 380 MB to 580 MB of RAM after loading the desktop.
[07:36] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:36] <lordievader> user|63793: If resources are an issue you may look into Lubuntu, a flavour going for light-weight.
[07:39] <user|63793> nice thank you !
 Anyone getting graphical glitches at random?
 It will persist until reboot
[08:12] <lordievader> What kind of hardware are you running, and what drivers are you using?
 @user|63793, Kubuntu uses 1.3gb/2gb ram on my lenovo mood 320 tablet.
 Lenovo miix 320
[08:25] <Mamarok> that is the total use of RAM with all running applications? then this is meaningless, in Linux RAM is allocated dynamically, thee more RAM there is the more will be used
[08:26] <Mamarok> RAM usage should be per application and only the shared RAM is useful for a statement over memory needs
[08:27] <lordievader> Mamarok: That is not entirely true, but yes. Ram is more complicated than just in use v.s. not in use.
[08:28] <Mamarok> right now with 10 GUI applications (including Chrome with several tabs) I have 2,7 of 7.6 GB in use
[08:28] <Mamarok> and 1,47 of 15 GB SWAAP
[08:28] <Maik> @sammy_v he's gone for almost an hour :)
 I am using stock kubuntu, only added clamav.
 and google chrome.
 Thats it...No other extra.
[09:39] <Maik> @sammy_v You don't need a antivirus on Linux.
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
 Yeah but it gives added assurance.
 Has anybody heard of finspy malware infecting Linux systems?
[12:15] <Maik> @sammy_v no it doesn't https://easylinuxtipsproject.blogspot.com/p/security.html
 There are malware affecting Linux....
[12:18] <Maik> Sure.... if that was the case all linux distros would ship anti virus apps and stuff OOTB
[12:18] <yussuf> hey :)
[12:19] <yussuf> just installed kubuntu - loving it
 @Maik, No need to argue....There is definitely malware attacking Linux systems also...
 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pcworld.com/article/3156931/why-malware-should-be-a-concern-for-all-linux-users-and-what-to-do-about-it.amp.html
 You are quoting a 2020 article that recommends always updating and being careful on public networks
 Pretty sure that's what everyone will do now
 Virus and malware attacks, snooping are ever increasing.....
 Linux is hardened if you don't install any 3rd party apps and keep updating and using apps from main repository only. Once you install any 3rd party app and drivers, etc it starts losing it's hardening.
[13:55] <user|83378> hello how can I open the KDE menu editor on kubuntu
[13:56] <woozalia> For me, right-click on the menu and select "Edit Applications..." works.
[13:57] <user|83378> thank you so much
[13:57] <woozalia> Glad to help :-)
[14:38] <tuxed> Hi :)
[14:38] <woozalia> Greetings.
[14:38] <tuxed> Thanks :)
[14:39] <tuxedlinux> I see many people here. But no one is chatting?
[14:40] <tuxedlinux> Anyways, which IRC client do you use? I use Konversation :)
[14:40] <woozalia> It does seem to be pretty quiet. I only joined a couple of days ago when I ran Konversation (for the first time in a long time) because Konversation is set up to join this chan automatically.
[14:40] <woozalia> [...and I think that answers your question :D]
[14:41] <tuxedlinux> Makes sense :D
[14:41] <woozalia> I used to use XChat, the last time I did much IRCing.
[14:41] <tuxedlinux> The first time I ever used IRC was in Linux Mint.
[14:41] <woozalia> Mint is good.
[14:41] <tuxedlinux> Hexchat.
[14:41] <tuxedlinux> I like Mint, but it has some battery problems.
[14:41] <tuxedlinux> So I decided to stay with Kubuntu.
[14:42] <tuxedlinux> I have used KDE neon, but there are bugs that really bugs me :(
[14:42] <woozalia> I just wish they'd stop breaking things and making them worse. My partner refuses to upgrade from 17.3 because stuff that works there is broken or absent in newer versions.
[14:42] <woozalia> (re Mint)
[14:42] <tuxedlinux> Ah.
[14:43] <tuxedlinux> The best version of Mint was 19.3, in my opinion.
[14:43] <tuxedlinux> Before they banned apt from installing snaps.
[14:43] <woozalia> I don't know if we tried 19, specifically.
[14:44] <tuxedlinux> Okay. Does your partner use Kubuntu or Mint 17.3?
[14:46] <woozalia> She mainly uses Mint 17.3; her laptop has 19.1 (I just checked) -- which doesn't have the green color scheme anymore, nor any way to create one without editing text files and icons directly, and the screenshot app is borked.
[14:51] <tuxedlinux> oh
[14:52] <tuxedlinux> Welcome!
[15:31] <tuxedlinux> okay..
[15:34] <woozalia> Not very chatty, are they ;-)
[15:34] <tuxedlinux> Yea.
[15:35] <tuxedlinux> I created a new one.
[15:35] <tuxedlinux> #tuxedland
[18:55] <juano-M> <tuxedlinux "I have used KDE neon, but there "> In fact, that distro should be labeled "Beta forever".
[18:57] <juano-M> I used KDE Neon a couple of years, and I just quit after 2 years
[19:51] <Maik> chat about other distro's belongs in #kubuntu-offtopic
[19:52] <Maik> remember that this is a kubuntu support channel
[19:55] <oerheks> Kubuntu + backports is better than neon :-)
 How stable is the backports repo?
[21:21] <Mamarok> very, I use the backports since ages. the unstable repos are the beta and proposed ones
 Hello. Is kubuntu distro of ubuntu?
[21:57] <tomreyn> antibiotc: yes, kubuntu is an official ubuntu flavour
[21:57] <tomreyn> !flavor
[23:04] <ImUsingKDEinWSL> Hey there
[23:05] <ImUsingKDEinWSL> Took me a lot of tweaking to get this working but here I am/!
[23:05] <ImUsingKDEinWSL> KDE runs pretty well in WSL once you set everything up right, loving this...
[23:06] <ImUsingKDEinWSL> Well tata for now!
[23:06] <ImUsingKDEinWSL> quit