[02:39] <Flannel> Zambezi: if you've been PMing me, I haven't gotten them, you need to be registed and identified for queries
[02:39] <Sanne> eric__: you're right, this site is fun
[02:39] <gemidjy> how can I add repo from DVD ?
[02:39] <guy> is there a cute rock chick that wanna chat with a 20 year old male?? type 444
[02:39] <ron999> ic56 this is the last line /dev/fd0 on /media/floppy0 type vfat (rw).......is that ok
[02:39] <Sanne> eric__: ok
[02:40] <Flannel> gemidjy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu "Managing Local Repositories"
[02:40] <digichrome> hi all. I'm trying to use Ubuntu from a "live" CD but my dell monitor says it cannot display the default mode. Anything I can do about it?
[02:41] <oga> sorry if this message has gone out a few times but i've been capped. i'm having a problem with make with an error like make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[02:41] <ic56> ron999: good. This confirms that the floppy drive (/dev/fd0) is mounted (on directory /media/floppy) and that it is of type vfat (Virtual FAT -- ie FAT32 or FAT16 etc) and that is mounted read-write (rw) as opposed to read-only (which would have been "ro")
[02:41] <Zambezi> Flannel, I should be identify.
[02:41] <gemidjy> Flannel: I dont use Synaptic
[02:41] <oga>  make: *** [modules]  Error 2
[02:41] <Flannel> gemidjy: that doesn't matter.  are you on breezy or dapper?
[02:42] <Zambezi> Flannel, Restart.
[02:42] <ron999> ic56 ok
[02:42] <profoX`> oga: install kernel-headers maybe
[02:42] <oga> profox k thanks
[02:42] <ic56> ron999: Now, get some exercise with the grep command.  Use: mount |grep floppy
[02:42] <eric__> Sanne: Looks like we got a load of errors.
[02:42] <profoX`> oga: search synaptic for kernel-headers and pick your version
[02:42] <ic56> ron999: you see how that works now?
[02:42] <Sanne> eric__: while running make?
[02:42] <eric__> Sanne: yes.
[02:42] <eric__> Sanne: Dozems.
[02:43] <eric__> Sanne: for starters, it wants jpeglib.h (No such file or directory)
[02:43] <gemidjy_> Flannel: I dont use Synaptic and I asked about DVD
[02:43] <minerale> I keep killing X by accidentally pressing SHIFT - BACKSPACE, is there a way to change that shortcut ?
[02:43] <ron999> ic56 answer is /dev/fd0 on /media/floppy0 type vfat (rw)
[02:43] <Zambezi> Dammit. I spoke to someone, but forgot the name after my reboot.
[02:43] <Sanne> eric__: this is usually not so easy to fix. Can you paste those to paste.ubuntu-nl.org?
[02:43] <ironuckles> hello all
[02:43] <eric__> I think so.
[02:43] <Flannel> gemidjy_: are you on breezy or dapper?  doesn'tmatter that you don't use synaptic
[02:44] <lufis> Is it just me or are the repos not working?
[02:44] <gemidjy_> Flannel: dapper
[02:44] <Sanne> eric__: oh, it wants a file. So configure didn't catch that. Let's just search for the providing package again.
[02:44] <ic56> ron999: do you undertand now how to use the grep command to select specific information from a pile of too much output?
[02:44] <Flannel> gemidjy_: You don't need to go into synaptic anyway.  Under... administration, or whatever the system menu thing is, there's a "Software Properties" or something, right above the Synaptic one.
[02:45] <lufis> ARE THE REPOS WORKING?
[02:45] <ironuckles> Can anyone help get me started on setting up a monitor as a second screen on my laptop running Ubuntu?
[02:45] <profoX`> lufis: yes
[02:45] <cappicard> good evening. are there DVD ISOs for ubuntu (instead of burning 4 CDs)?
[02:45] <Sanne> eric__: libjpeg62-dev
[02:45] <eric__> Sanne: Installing libjpeg62-dev.
[02:45] <gemidjy_> Flannel: I need to add them via Shell
[02:45] <lufis> profoX`: Synaptic is saying it can't connect, wtf
[02:45] <eric__> Sanne: Right.
[02:45] <Sanne> eric__: heh
[02:45] <profoX`> lufis: well i'm not sure, i use the nl. mirrors
[02:45] <gemidjy_> Flannel: I mean, add the dvd repo
[02:45] <Wiseguy> cappicard, its only 1 cd...
[02:45] <Flannel> gemidjy_: alright, then you edit the sources.list, it's the same line: deb cdrom:[name of CD]  dapper main restricted
[02:45] <ron999> ic56 i think i understand now, like a string search, it was the  | symbol that threw me,lol
[02:46] <gemidjy_> Flannel: I want to add dvd
[02:46] <gemidjy_> Arghhhhhhhh
[02:46] <eric__> Sanne: ubuntu rocks - but I can't picture my grandma doing this.
[02:46] <Flannel> gemidjy_: right, what's the problem?
[02:46] <profoX`> tried the original repos.. works
[02:46] <Sanne> eric__: since you already ran make, I don't know if you need to "make clean" to delete already compiled stuff.
[02:46] <gemidjy_> Flannel: it doesn't matter ?
[02:46] <eric__> Sanne: I'll do that.
[02:46] <Flannel> gemidjy_: a DVD is still read through the cdrom drive, yeah.
[02:46] <cappicard> Wiseguy, ah ok.
[02:46] <gemidjy_> Flannel: no, via dvd drive
[02:46] <profoX`> eric__: you don't hve to compile most stuff.. what do you want?
[02:46] <ic56> ron999: exactly. the | symbol (aka pipe symbol) is used to "pipe" the output of one command into the input of another command
[02:46] <ic56> ron999: ok. let's move on
[02:46] <Flannel> gemidjy_: it's still the same.
[02:47] <prophet_> firefox crashes randomly sometimes its kinda annoying any suggestoins?
[02:47] <Sanne> eric__: or grandpa (why is it *always* we women who are synonyms for "challenged user"?)
[02:47] <eric__> profoX': Just whinin'.
[02:47] <gemidjy_> Flannel:   Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[02:47] <Wiseguy> FC5 is 4 cd's, and i find it very similiar, maybe a mix up..
[02:47] <cappicard> my dapper-to-edgy upgrade failed pretty badly.
[02:47] <eric__> Sanne: True.    My father gets challenged with computers.
[02:47] <raskolnikov> what do i change so i wont be asked for a password when i close my laptop lid?
[02:48] <raskolnikov> i know its something in the /etc/acpi directory but i'm not sure what
[02:48] <Sanne> eric__: I always read things like: my mother, housewifes distro, my sister, my girlfriend. That really sucks a bit, being female myself.
[02:48] <Sanne> eric__: kudos to your mem! :)
[02:48] <Sanne> mom
[02:48] <ironuckles> Can someone tell me how to use Xinerama to set up a monitor as a second screen with my laptop?
[02:48] <spades> raskolnikov check in /etc/acpi/lid.sh
[02:48] <raskolnikov> what do i change is what i need to know
[02:48] <ic56> ron999: your floppy is mounted and we have confirmed that.  You should be able to copy files to and from it by copying files to and from /media/floppy0 .  Also, we created a symlink -- /media/floppy . This acts as an alias for /media/floppy0 . It's just a convenience.  Saves you typing the 0.
[02:48] <eric__> Sanne: Make is spewing out a bunch of something or other.
[02:48] <raskolnikov> so it wont ask me for a password when i close it
[02:49] <eric__> Sanne: I think it's supposed to be doing that.
[02:49] <lunatic> I cannot get nvidia drivers to work
[02:49] <lunatic> I followed the ubuntu guide design
[02:49] <Sanne> eric__: oh yes, it is so nice and tells you what it's up to, hehe
[02:49] <ron999> ic56, ok shall i try it
[02:49] <raskolnikov> does anyone know?
[02:49] <Flannel> gemidjy_: apt-cdrom just adds to your sources.list, edit it by hand.  then use apt-get to use it, as per normal.
[02:49] <spades> raskolnikov i think commenting out hte first to lines that call something with acpi should disable the close lid stuff, so your laptop monitor will be on all the time
[02:49] <Sanne> eric__: as long as you don't see the word "error", it should be ok.
[02:50] <eric__> Sanne: How's this for masochism?  I'm about to order a barebones PC kit onto which I plan to install ubuntu/kubuntu.
[02:50] <raskolnikov> but i dont want it to be on all the time
[02:50] <gemidjy_> Flannel: no it doesn't, it searches in my CD drive and it can't find Repositories there, it doesn't even check the DVD drive
[02:50] <ic56> ron999: let me know how it goes -- then we'll fix your fstab so you don't have do the mounting as root.
[02:50] <raskolnikov> i want it to not ask me for a password after i open it again
[02:50] <lunatic> How do i get the nvidia glx dirvers to actually work?
[02:50] <Sanne> eric__: good for you!
[02:50] <eric__> Sanne: I should be troubleshooting that 'til I'm 90.
[02:50] <XiXaQ> What does Windows Virtual FAT mean? Can't I write Fat32 partitions?
[02:50] <Sanne> eric__:  what is a barebones pc kit?
[02:50] <bruenig> !nvidia
[02:50] <ron999> ic56 talk me through it, what first
[02:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:50] <ic56> ron999: copying went ok?
[02:50] <lunatic> thanks
[02:50] <eric__> Sanne: www.tigerdirect.com.  For about $500 you can build your own PC from scratch.
[02:51] <rayston> anybody want to help me with fstab? my secondary drive is getting mounted as noexec, but I cant find noexec in the fstab, here is a pastebin of the pertinent info, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18736  can anyone help me?
[02:51] <eric__> Sanne: Hope I don't get booted for that.  I'm not endorsing.
[02:51] <spades> raskolnikov see if the screensaver settings or something has a lock screen after X and set it way high, thats all i can think of
[02:51] <ron999> ic56, no , what do i do first
[02:51] <raskolnikov> i'm on breezy
[02:51] <matti_> anyone who can tell me if a hp 2600 printer is worth the money if used with linux ? /Im aware of the propertary wire protocol
[02:51] <Sanne> eric__: heh, I actually just built my first system from scratch. Got it assembled yesterday.
[02:51] <eric__> Sanne: good for you - where did you get the parts?
[02:52] <Sanne> eric__: from stores in Germany... I don't suppose that would be interesting to you?
[02:52] <ironuckles> Can someone tell me how to use Xinerama to set up a monitor as a second screen with my laptop?
[02:52] <eric__> Sanne: In concept, perhaps - but the duties would probably kill me.
[02:52] <ron999> ic56 tried to save a document there but dont have permission
[02:52] <eric__> Sanne: Make is still running.  Maybe a good sign?
[02:52] <ic56> ron999: you can either use Nautilus to drag and drop or you can use command lines.
[02:53] <ic56> ron999: hmmm, no permission eh?
[02:53] <Sanne> eric__: if it doesn't explode, it's fine (joke!)
[02:53] <ron999> ic56, cant drag and drop either
[02:53] <ic56> ron999: let me check something
[02:53] <ron999> ic56 ok
[02:53] <oga_> sorry if this message has gone out a few times but i've been capped. i'm having a problem with make with an error like make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.15-23-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[02:53] <oga_> i'ts not the headers
[02:54] <matti_> oga_: wheres ur source ?
[02:54] <Sanne> eric__: if you're interested in my system parts, look here, first post (it's German, but the parts are the underlined links): http://www.silenthardware.de/forum/index.php?showtopic=20558&st=0
[02:54] <oga_> on my Desktop in a dir
[02:54] <Ronz> are ubuntu servers back up?
[02:54] <matti_> oga_: and where did u get it from?
[02:55] <raskolnikov> what do i change so i wont be asked for a password when i close my laptop lid?
[02:55] <eric__> Ronz: Yep!
[02:55] <Ronz>  /woot
[02:55] <Ronz> now i can update...yay!
[02:55] <oga_> sourceforge
[02:55] <Nuked> GDM=DEATH
[02:55] <oga_> i'm trying to update my wireless driver
[02:55] <Nuked> aghhh!
[02:55] <matti_> wow my girlfriend is speaking in finish while asleep :D
[02:55] <Ronz> ok...now that everything is up and running...whats the name of the package that lets me burn MP3's with k3b?
[02:55] <protocol2> how can I back track a change that I made to /etc/gdm/gdm.conf?
[02:55] <rayston> anybody want to help me with fstab? my secondary drive is getting mounted as noexec, but I cant find noexec in the fstab, here is a pastebin of the pertinent info, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18736  can anyone help me?
[02:55] <eric__> Sanne: My main hesitation is that it's a Celeron D 340.  Upgradable, but perhaps not speedy enough for high-end linux?
[02:55] <Ronz> protocol2: did you make a backup?
[02:56] <matti_> oga_: what brand ?
[02:56] <oga_> matti_ hot
[02:56] <protocol2> Ronz I believe so
[02:56] <protocol2> how do I go about getting it
[02:56] <HLM> what's up with Ubuntu Updates? Are the servers still down?
[02:56] <tuliomgui> does anyone know how do i put the tray bar in the bottom panel??
[02:56] <interfear> Do I install mplayer 686 or 386? i have an amd athlon 4400x2, but 32bit ubuntu installed, im guessing 686 since my kernel is 686?
[02:56] <matti_> oga_: or what driver...
[02:56] <Sanne> eric__: what is a celeron? I don't have a celeron...
[02:56] <Ronz> protocol2: wherever you coppied your backup to, just recopy it
[02:56] <AngryParsley> Sanne: it's a budget pentium
[02:56] <oga_> ipw2200-1.0.4.tgz
[02:56] <AngryParsley> less cache, slower frequency and FSB
[02:56] <Sanne> eric__: oh, you mean your system?
[02:56] <Ronz> cp /etc/gdm/gdm.conf.backup /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[02:57] <Ronz> or whatever your backup file was
[02:57] <Sanne> AngryParsley: thanks
[02:57] <AngryParsley> no problem
[02:57] <Nuked> ronz know anything about gdm (errors)
[02:57] <Nuked> ?
[02:57] <Ronz> depends on the error Nuked
[02:57] <matti_> oga_: hmm, not familiar with that..but the message tells me that directory does not exist
[02:57] <matti_> oga_:and the directory is the kernel source
[02:58] <Nuked> Ronz An error occurred while loading user interface element local_background_image_chooserbutton from file /usr/share/gdm/gdmsetup.glade.  Possibly the glade interface description was corrupted.  gdm cannot continue and will exit now.  You should check your installation of gdm or reinstall gdm.
[02:58] <eric__> Sanne: The one I'm building, yes.
[02:58] <Flannel> gemidjy: you'll need to do whatever path it takes to get to your DVDrom drive then.
[02:58] <Nuked> i removed gdm, purged any configs it may have left behing
[02:58] <Sanne> eric__: I went for Athlon 64 dual core, but I suspect we're getting a bit offtopic...
[02:58] <matti_> oga_: I guess that buil should point to /usr/src/linux-version-of-yours
[02:58] <eric__> Sanne: It's an Intel microprocessor - low budget.  Mostly found in eMachines and the like.
[02:58] <eric__> Sanne: Right . Sorry.
[02:58] <Ronz> did you reinstall it Nuked?
[02:58] <Nuked> and reinstalled and I ger the same error
[02:58] <nicolas25214521> hi
[02:58] <tuliomgui> does anyone know how do i put the tray bar in the bottom panel??
[02:59] <jrib> tuliomgui: right click > add to panel > notification area
[02:59] <goatmale> right click
[02:59] <eric__> Sanne: While Make is making -- I notice that ubuntu has forums in many different languages.
[02:59] <oga_> matti_
[02:59] <oga_> i'm not 100% on linux but sounds right
[02:59] <Sanne> eric__: oh yes, several. A German one too :)
[02:59] <oga_> now i just have to figure out how to fix it
[02:59] <Nuked> eric__ lots of languages
[02:59] <matti_> oga_: it is...
[02:59] <eric__> Sanne: Wouldn't it be nifty if the search engines could somehow translate all of those on the fly - then you can tap into everybody's experiences.
[02:59] <ron999> ic56 what next?
[03:00] <Ronz> i forget what the file is, Nuked. for gentoo, it was /etc/rc.conf if im not mistaking
[03:00] <tuliomgui> jrib,  thanks a lot man!!
[03:00] <tuliomgui> =D
[03:00] <Ronz> make sure gdm is starting up
[03:00] <matti_> oga_: u didnt compile ur kernel on your own i guess ?
[03:00] <inukotsu> Is there a way to tell linux to reset all Configuration data and rescan the hardware?
[03:00] <protocol2> Ronz, in my gdm.conf file for the servers section I used to have a aixgl instead of xgl
[03:00] <jrib> tuliomgui: np :)
[03:00] <lufis> Are the main repos working?
[03:01] <Nuked> gdm is running, but I cant change themes or anything configuration related ronz
[03:01] <RadiantFire> us repos are working again :-)
[03:01] <tuliomgui> jrib, are you good with video cards??
[03:01] <nicolas25214521> hi, my name is nicolas and i'm from mexico... i whant to know if linux (ubuntu) can be desfragmented like windows
[03:01] <protocol2> how do I go about changing it back?
[03:01] <interfear> are the w32codecs available as a package?
[03:01] <Flannel> lufis: ca mirror is down.  change your mirror, and you'll be fine
[03:01] <Sanne> eric__: oh yes, that would be nice. I often thought that the German Ubuntu wiki is very good, but, well, the official one is also awesome. We could always translate and contribute, though.
[03:01] <jrib> tuliomgui: I don't about "good", but just address the channel with your question and if I can help, I will try
[03:01] <Flannel> nicolas25214521: linux doesn't need to be defragmented
[03:01] <lufis> Flannel: How would I go about doing that? Heh, I've been using the Canada mirror this whole time?
[03:01] <matti_> oga_: probably u need one of them kernel packages (wich I never use, so I wouldnt know wich one u need) and then  probably u would be able to compile your driverm alternative u could compile your own kernel, and that way you would know whats missing and not...
[03:01] <eric__> Sanne: Perhaps, but my German is far worse than my Linux.
[03:02] <Nuked> nicolas25214521,  you can do it if you have ext2
[03:02] <lens> hey could someone give me an example of copying a directory using cp in bash...
[03:02] <Nuked> !es
[03:02] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[03:02] <tuliomgui> im trying to get 75Hz refresh rate available in the configurations
[03:02] <nicolas25214521> ok thanks
[03:02] <Sanne> nicolas25214521: you don't need to. It's a file system with a different design, defrag isn't needed.
[03:02] <XiXaQ> recommend me a good partition manager for add,remove, and format partitions?
[03:02] <lufis> XiXaQ: Gparted?
[03:02] <Nuked> gparted or partition magic
[03:03] <Flannel> lufis: er, us mirror was down yesterday, someone said it was back up.  Anyway, gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and change your mirror url (for instance, the line says deb http://ca.ubuntu.com dapper main restricted, change it to deb http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper etc etc)
[03:03] <gnomefreak> lens: to move filea from desktop to home you would cp ~/Desktop/filea ~/filea
[03:03] <Sanne> eric__: hehe, I didn't mean necessarily you to translate, but, well, me :)
[03:03] <gnomefreak> lens: ~/ being home
[03:03] <lufis> Flannel: Ok great. I can't believe I've been using the canada one :P
[03:03] <lens> gnomefreak, is moving a dir different... it keeps saying omitting dir MYCHILD (the dir I want to move)
[03:03] <Nuked> gnomefreak: An error occurred while loading user interface element local_background_image_chooserbutton from file /usr/share/gdm/gdmsetup.glade.  Possibly the glade interface description was corrupted.  gdm cannot continue and will exit now.  You should check your installation of gdm or reinstall gdm. I did and get the same error
[03:03] <lprofil> good evening
[03:03] <lens> not move cp
[03:03] <nicolas25214521> and i have one more problem. i cant write audio CD.
[03:03] <XiXaQ> partition magic is a proprietary and commersial application, isn't it?
[03:04] <Nuked> yes it is but it works
[03:04] <Sanne> eric__: how long are you into Linux?
[03:04] <gnomefreak> lens: cp is copy
[03:04] <gnomefreak> mv = move or rename
[03:04] <roostishaw> anyone, when i do i ./configure when im compiling from soucre, i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18739  how do I fix it?
[03:04] <Flannel> XiXaQ: Gparted is good, and already installed (on dapper anyway)
[03:04] <lens> gnomefreak, why would it say omitting dir when I try to copy it... sorry I meant to copy it to another location.
[03:04] <lens> not move
[03:04] <gnomefreak> lens: coping a file from one place to another should work can you give me the command you are using?
[03:05] <lens> gnomefreak... gratefully, hold on.
[03:05] <Nuked> roostishaw,  you are missing gtk
[03:05] <matti_> is there anyone using any of these printers in linux: hp2600, canon lasershot5000, samsung CLP-510N; and can tell me if they r ok or not ?
[03:05] <Nuked> ?
[03:05] <XiXaQ> Flannel, where?
[03:05] <Flannel> roostishaw: you'll need to download the GTK headers, search for GTK and dev
[03:05] <Nuked> roostishaw,  apt-get build-dep gaim and try again
[03:05] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: what are you compiling?
[03:05] <gnomefreak> oh gaim :(
[03:05] <eric__> Sanne: Maybe a month.
[03:05] <lens> Gnomefreak:  something like this...  cp ~/.wine/drive_c/"my pack"/MYCHILD ~/.wine/drive_c/
[03:05] <Flannel> XiXaQ: System > Administration > Gnome Partition something or other
[03:05] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, scatterchat
[03:05] <trev__> i need to set up text to speech in a application, which file in festivial do I link it to (its ut2004)
[03:06] <gnomefreak> lens: you dont have a drive C: do you?
[03:06] <eric__> Sanne: I started with Virtual PC on the Mac here.  I'm able to get the LiveCD to work that way.
[03:06] <Nuked> roostishaw, AACK
[03:06] <RadiantFire> whoever asked the printer question, you will probably be ok with hp
[03:06] <RadiantFire> they have generally good cups support
[03:06] <_FlUiD_> hi people! just wanna ask on how can i install gnome on my kubuntu?
[03:06] <fit4lfe> my firefox keeps crashing anyone know why
[03:06] <Sanne> eric__: Wow! For that I found you a very delightful pupil! No panic, no swearing... ;)
[03:06] <inukotsu>  Is there anyway to reset the configuration data in lionux and to have it rescan the hardware?
[03:06] <roostishaw> Nuked, what do i do? sudo apt-get install gtk?
[03:06] <lens> gnomefreak" then it says ommiting MYCHILD, no this is in ~/.wine, which might be complicating matters.
[03:06] <matti_> RadiantFire :no, thats why im asking
[03:06] <gnomefreak> _FlUiD_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:06] <eric__> Sanne: But I was afraid the installer would find a way to nuke my Mac's hard drive if I tried to install it.
[03:06] <RadiantFire> _FlUiD_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:06] <fit4lfe> does anyone elses crash
[03:06] <gnomefreak> lens: very much so
[03:06] <eric__> Sanne: The pressure is not on.  I don't need this to work.
[03:06] <RadiantFire> matti_: check the compatiablity liisting and linuxprinting.org
[03:06] <matti_> RadiantFire :the hp is labeled as a "windoes printer"
[03:06] <jrib> !fixres > tuliomgui
[03:06] <Flannel> roostishaw: you'll need the development headers, usually they have a -dev suffix
[03:06] <gnomefreak> lens: im not familiar with wine
[03:06] <matti_> RadiantFire :I did
[03:06] <_FlUiD_> where can i get that RadiantFire??
[03:06] <eric__> Sanne: Now, if I was on the clock ...
[03:06] <Nuked> roost I assume so, but apt-cache search gtk to be sure
[03:07] <RadiantFire> matti_: and what did it say?
[03:07] <RadiantFire> _FlUiD_: from synaptic or apt-get
[03:07] <AngryParsley> has anyone here gotten the DD powerpc liveCD to boot?
[03:07] <noname_> hi all...I'm trying to install something using apt-get but it doesn't download but the internet is working can you tell me why ?
[03:07] <Nuked> roostishaw,  just get build deps for gaim anfd try again
[03:07] <roostishaw> Flannel, so search in synaptic for gkt-dev?
[03:07] <_FlUiD_> alright, thanks! i will try it.
[03:07] <AngryParsley> because I've tried everything to get it to work on my ibook
[03:07] <lens> I don't understand why it wouldn't just work like normal. gnomefreak... arghgh, I'm frustrated... thank you for you help though.
[03:07] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: sudo apt-get build-dep gaim
[03:07] <eric__> Sanne: I also assumed this is my last best hope to make this work - so I had better be nice!
[03:07] <matti_> RadiantFire :and they all seem to work, but none of them are described as "works grand", more like "lacks this, and that"
[03:07] <Sanne> eric__: yeah, I see. So don't ask me when you have to rush ;)
[03:07] <XiXaQ> Flannel, I found it in the repositories, but it wasn't installed by default.
[03:07] <Sanne> eric__: lol :)
[03:07] <Flannel> roostishaw: I doubt it has that name, search for gtk dev
[03:07] <RadiantFire> matti_: for most things you will be ok, unless you need some wierd mode
[03:07] <lufis> Kind of random, but does anyone have any good Linux blog recommendations or Linux/OSS-related "Planet" blog aggregators?
[03:07] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, but im doing it on scatterchat...
[03:07] <Zambezi> Is it possible to install rtorrent in Breezy using rtorrent repos?
[03:08] <lens> gnomefreak, guess I just have to keep trying different things. I'm used to it lately, no one really uses wine! lol
[03:08] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: they both use GTK
[03:08] <Nuked> scatterchat is gaim based
[03:08] <roostishaw> oh
[03:08] <roostishaw> i know
[03:08] <Zambezi> Is it possible to install rtorrent in Breezy using Dapper-repos?
[03:08] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: you can get the build depends for gaim should take care of your GTK issues
[03:08] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, E: Build-dependencies for gaim could not be satisfied.
[03:08] <_FlUiD_> RadiantFire: do i still need to remove kde or will gnome automatically remove it for me??
[03:08] <Sanne> eric__: but if you get me as your instructor, you would unfortunately have to learn, as I usually refuse to just give people commands they have to type. I want people to understand. But that's work.
[03:08] <Nuked> anyone know what the hell is going on with my GDM
[03:08] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: does it say why?
[03:08] <Nuked> roost
[03:09] <RadiantFire> _FlUiD_: it won't remove kde
[03:09] <roostishaw> yea?
[03:09] <matti_> RadiantFire : probably u r right, but I wonder wich one is best the samsung has binary drivers, the HP has reversengineered drivers, so neither sound good...
[03:09] <trev__> does festival do text to speech or does software have to be added to it first
[03:09] <Nuked> roostishaw,  sudo apt-get update
[03:09] <Nuked> and try again
[03:09] <ic56> ron999: are you still there?
[03:09] <matti_> RadiantFire : what is u r opinion ?
[03:09] <_FlUiD_> hmm.. how will i set my default desktop?
[03:09] <ron999> ic56 i'm here
[03:09] <roostishaw> nuked & gnomefreak, same error
[03:09] <RadiantFire> matti_: i have an hp that is listed as not fully functional, I've never had problems with it
[03:10] <roostishaw> Nuked, same error
[03:10] <RadiantFire> i can print, color, black and white, everything comes out looking nice
[03:10] <Nuked> hmmm... all repos enabled?
[03:10] <RadiantFire> I can't figure out why they say it doesn't work fully
[03:10] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: ok now thats strange
[03:10] <matti_> RadiantFire : but maybe it supports Postscript nativily, the 2600 does not...
[03:10] <roostishaw> Nuked & gnomefreak, :(
[03:10] <RadiantFire> matti_: it depends how daring you are :-)
[03:10] <ic56> ron999: ok.  we're now going to teach your system to check for msdos-formatted floppies before checking for Linux-formatted floppies.  This will eliminate the need for you to override the defaults with sudo
[03:10] <matti_> RadiantFire :can u elaborate on that ;=
[03:11] <matti_> RadiantFire :what HP do u have?
[03:11] <roostishaw> Nuked & gnomefreak, is that the only solution?
[03:11] <ron999> ic56 ok
[03:11] <RadiantFire> matti_: chances are, they will probably work for everything you need them for, unless you need some kind of specific feature
[03:11] <RadiantFire> deskjet 5470
[03:11] <_FlUiD_> RadiantFire: i am getting this error when i try apt-get "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[03:11] <Nuked> can you show me your apt repo list?
[03:11] <Ronz> hp ftw...i have a dv1000 that runs only ubuntu RadiantFire   =)
[03:11] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: no you can install the GTKand GTK-dev files
[03:11] <ic56> : do this: sudo gedit /etc/filesystems
[03:11] <ic56> ron999: do this: sudo gedit /etc/filesystems
[03:11] <RadiantFire> dv1000?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: im trying to make it easy on you
[03:12] <Nuked> Ronz, any Idea?
[03:12] <Ronz> widescreen laptop RadiantFire . its now the zt2000 or something like that
[03:12] <Ronz> oh, for the gdm Nuked ?
[03:12] <Nuked> yeah
[03:12] <matti_> RadiantFire :ah, thats an inkjet, and they seem to work, the once I listed are lasers, It would be a pity to buy a printer and not be able to use it...
[03:12] <RadiantFire> i have an e1405 from dell, its sweetness... except bluetooth doesn't work
[03:12] <ron999> ic56 ok
[03:12] <RadiantFire> but I have nothing bluetooth, so oh well
[03:12] <Ronz> let me see if i can find that file, Nuked
[03:12] <_FlUiD_> RadiantFire: i am getting this error when i try apt-get "Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[03:12] <Sanne> eric__: did I scare you off now? ;)
[03:12] <ic56> ron999: this file shouldn't exist yet so it will be empty.  Am I right about this?
[03:12] <ron999> ic56 empty
[03:12] <roostishaw> Nuked & gnomefreak, sorry. accidently clossed the window... what were you saying?
[03:12] <noname_> can you tell me where ubuntu downloads files using synaptic package manager or apt-get
[03:12] <RadiantFire> _FlUiD_: I dunno, something went weird
[03:12] <matti_> RadiantFire :I dont have any special needs, but if I aquire a color printer I would expect to be albe to print in color aswell
[03:12] <eric__> Sanne: No.  Make seems to be hung ..?
[03:13] <Ronz> both noname_
[03:13] <roostishaw> Nuked & gnomefreak, what else can i try?
[03:13] <_FlUiD_> RadiantFire: no idea?
[03:13] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: can you grab sudo apt-get build-dep gnome-terminal
[03:13] <ic56> ron999: now, add 3 lines into this file.  Each line containing one word, in this order:  msdos ext2 ext3.  Then, save and exit.
[03:13] <Sanne> eric__: it canhappen to appear like this.  If it's still hight, make is probably working.
[03:13] <phenex> great :)
[03:14] <noname_> Ronz, sorry I don't understand
[03:14] <eric__> Sanne:  What's the easiest way to see that?
[03:14] <Nuked> ronz same error
[03:14] <ron999> ic56 done it
[03:14] <ic56> ron999: let's unmount the floppy: sudo umount /dev/fd0
[03:14] <Nuked> but I may have info that will help
[03:14] <tuliomgui> !fixres
[03:14] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:14] <_FlUiD_> RadiantFire: got it running, but apt-get can't seem to fine ubuntu-desktop "Couldn't find package ubuntu-desktop"
[03:14] <Ronz> what is the error Nuked, i x'ed out of IRC
[03:14] <Sanne> eric__: hmmm, there are some cpu monitor programs. Do you use Gnome, Kde, some other desktop?
[03:14] <matti_> RadiantFire :do u know if cups or any other printer system can print to a printer that is not supported if it is on a windows host ?, I.e. could I share the printer from a windows machine and then print to it without the proper driver from cups/or whatever ?
[03:14] <RadiantFire> weird, thats deinatlye the package
[03:14] <ron999> ic56 done umount
[03:15] <eric__> Sanne: Right now - KDE.
[03:15] <RadiantFire> matti_: i have no clue
[03:15] <matti_> ok
[03:15] <Ronz> noname_, whenever you use apt-get....it shows up in synaptic manager. whenever you use synaptic manager...you can see the package with apt. synaptic manager is just a GUI for apt, if im not mistaking
[03:15] <matti_> vmware is free so that could be an option for me....
[03:15] <Sanne> eric__: oh, I don't know the name of the kde monitor program, gimme a sec.
[03:15] <Nuked> Ronz, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18740
[03:15] <ic56> ron999: finally, let's test our new config.  Type: mount /media/floppy
[03:15] <ic56> ron999: it should work without sudo and without extra arguments
[03:15] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, no... E: Build-dependencies for gnome-terminal could not be satisfied.
[03:16] <Nuked> same thing but this is the terminal output
[03:16] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: something wrong with repos can you pelase paste them to pastebin
[03:16] <noname_> Ronz, I know this but what I want to know is where it download's it's packages ? (cause with my apt-get it doesn't download so I will download manually and put them in the folder)
[03:16] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, sure. you mean my /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[03:17] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: yes
[03:17] <Nuked> yes roostishaw  just like I told you before
[03:17] <ic56> ron999: assuming you got no error messages, confirm that floppy was mounted by using the "mount" command without arguments and checking its output for "floppy"
[03:17] <Ronz>  WARNING **: Glade file is on crack! Make sure the correct file is installed! ....thats funny Nuked
[03:17] <ron999> ic56 yes it burst into life and one of those gui icons has now been mounted , what now
[03:17] <interfear> what is mplayer-custom? i installed libdvdcss2, and the w32codecs, shouldnt i install mplayer-686 now?
[03:17] <Nuked> Ronz, I thought so too
[03:17] <roostishaw> Nuked, sorry. xchat didn't highlight it...
[03:17] <_FlUiD_> RadiantFire: got it running, but apt-get can't seem to fine ubuntu-desktop "Couldn't find package ubuntu-desktop"
[03:17] <Nuked> roostishaw, no problemo
[03:17] <Sanne> eric__: I found two options quick: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/kde/kcpuload and http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/utils/ksysguard
[03:18] <interfear> anyone here know what mplayer-custom is? or anyone here have mplayer installed?
[03:18] <roostishaw> Nuked & gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18742
[03:18] <Ronz> im not sure where it installs to, noname_
[03:18] <ic56> ron999: did mount |grep floppy confirm what your ears and GUI icons suggested?
[03:18] <eric__> Sanne: Well - the mouse cursor is frozen.
[03:18] <gnomefreak> ok roostishaw ill brb hopfully with an answer
[03:18] <Sanne> eric__: hrmph
[03:18] <Sanne> eric__: then it crashed
[03:18] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, ok. take your time
[03:18] <eric__> Sanne: Spoke too soon - just really unresponsive.
[03:18] <Nuked> roostishaw,  I dont see a problem
[03:19] <ron999> ic56 grep output is /dev/fd0 on /media/floppy0 type vfat (rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,user=ron)
[03:19] <Sanne> eric__: ah, ok. But still a bad sign.
[03:19] <Nuked> you did sudo apt-get update right?
[03:19] <roostishaw> Nuked, yes.
[03:19] <roostishaw> Nuked, you mean all the nessasary repos are there?
[03:19] <eric__> Sanne: The iMac is pretty sluggish under the best of circumstances.
[03:19] <noname_> Ronz, ok thanks anyway
[03:20] <Ronz> np
[03:20] <Sanne> eric__: now it would be nice to have a proccess viewer to see which proccess uses that much cpu. But you can try to find out in a terminal with "top".
[03:20] <Ronz> damnit....lightning
[03:20] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: other than the gaim repo blocking it (but shouldnt be since you cant get g-term deps either)
[03:20] <Ronz> later yall!
[03:20] <ic56> ron999: excellent.  Now, since you mounted the drive as yourself instead of as user root, you should also own the directory and have permission to write to it.  Try dragging a file into it.
[03:20] <Nuked> ronz
[03:20] <Nuked> roostishaw, that looks clean to me.. but I may be on crack
[03:20] <Nuked> are you using gaim beta 2?
[03:21] <gnomefreak> Nuked: other than unofficial repos your not on crack yet
[03:21] <ron999> ic56, ok wait
[03:21] <Sanne> eric__: after this crisis, you might want to have a look at ksysguard, this one seems to have a graphical process viewer.
[03:21] <Nuked> gnomefreak, then why could he be having this problem?
[03:21] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: try commenting out all un-official repos and try again
[03:21] <gnomefreak> Nuked: not sure yet
[03:22] <ron999> ic56 yes it's done it, copied 2 files from document file to floppy ok
[03:22] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: after commenting everything under skype out sudo apt-get update
[03:22] <Nuked> gnomefreak, know anything about why im getting the gdm error?
[03:22] <gnomefreak> Nuked: i havent seen your issue sotrry
[03:22] <gnomefreak> what error?
[03:22] <Nuked> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18740
[03:23] <Nuked> basically im told to reinstall GDM, I did and I still get the same issue
[03:23] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, ill do that now
[03:23] <Nuked> sudo gdmsetup does nothing
[03:24] <ic56> ron999: excellent.  Now, bewarned: the files have been copied but haven't been completely written to the floppy.  Instead, they are cached in the computer's memory (RAM).  unmounting the floppy will flush the cache and put a timestamp on the floppy confirming that the filesystem was cleanly disconnected
[03:24] <gnomefreak> Nuked: sudo apt-get install --reinstall gdm
[03:24] <gnomefreak> let me know if it errors
[03:24] <Sanne> eric__: I'm sorry, I really need to go now, it's late at night here... need to get some sleep :)
[03:24] <ron999> ic56 yes i understand......
[03:24] <ic56> ron999: to unmount the floppy use: umount /media/floppy
[03:24] <eric__> Sanne: Thanks for everything.
[03:24] <blkno1> I broke my sound on Dapper, i was burning a dvd got an error now no sound, even after rebooting?  Any ideas
[03:25] <ic56> ron999: *then* you can safely remove the floppy.
[03:25] <Sanne> eric__: you're welcome, it was fun (for me, at last ;), and good luck!
[03:25] <Sanne> by all
[03:25] <gnomefreak> Nuked: after its reinstalled please restart gdm
[03:25] <ron999> ic56 i can mount , unmount  using the gui icon, and when i unmount i have been able to format
[03:26] <Ackeubu_> hey what is locateecho ?? dont now where to get it. but it seems as if i need it for e17
[03:26] <ic56> ron999: there is another way: the "sync" command.  This tells Ubuntu to flush *all* its caches to disk.  This saves you unmounting and re-mounting if all you wanted to do was make sure that your data is flushed to disk before your proceed with adding more data
[03:26] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, "E: Build-dependencies for gaim could not be satisfied." :(
[03:27] <Nuked> gnomefreak killall gdm wiill suffice?
[03:27] <ic56> ron999: I think that about does it.  Any remaining questions on this topic?
[03:27] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, i commented out, then sudo apt-get update, then did sudo apt-get build-dep gaim
[03:27] <gnomefreak> Nuked: just ctrl+alt+backspace
[03:27] <Nuked> brb
[03:27] <ron999> ic56 i have my two entries for floppies, how do i get rid of the old one
[03:27] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: there is something wrong give me a sec
[03:27] <ic56> ron999: what are they named?
[03:27] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, ok
[03:27] <ron999> ic56 wait
[03:28] <Nuked> gnomefreak same problem
[03:29] <gnomefreak> Nuked: im not sure. i know there is a file missing just not sure what file you need
[03:29] <Nuked> man gnomefreak  this is just crazy
[03:29] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: not sure. someone on dapper just tried for me and he was able to
[03:30] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, and you think you're sure i got all the right repos?
[03:30] <gnomefreak> Nuked: are you using gdm or kdm?
[03:30] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: i know you do
[03:30] <ron999> ic56 when i look in 'computer' i have my new floppy0 and an old Floppy 1
[03:30] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, :( hmm...
[03:30] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: i dont have all the repos you do and it works for me
[03:31] <Nuked> gnomefreak,  gdm
[03:31] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, oh... well... where else should i look, or where do i go from here?
[03:31] <gnomefreak> Nuked: try build-dep gdm?
[03:31] <protocol2> !xgl
[03:31] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:32] <gnomefreak> roostishaw: search for gtk and gtk-dev packages (cant remember if you need GTK2 or not but your error will tell you)
[03:32] <ic56> ron999: hmmm, that's an odd name "Floppy 1" with an uppercase F and a space between the "Floppy" and the "1".  Is it really called that?
[03:33] <Student> Is there a way to install ubuntu directly from the hard drive? Currently I lack a working CD-ROM drive, so I'm wondering if there is a second option.
[03:33] <Nuked> gnomefreak same error
[03:33] <roostishaw> gnomefreak, thanks! and brb...
[03:33] <eric__> Perhaps a generic academic question?  I've found that it's pretty easy to move back and forth between KDE and GNOME.  You can run KDE apps in GNOME and vice versa.  Aside from the different interfaces, is there really that much of a difference between the two?  I mean, what is kubuntu but ubuntu with a slightly different user interface?
[03:33] <ron999> ic56 yes i think so
[03:33] <Flannel> Student: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation
[03:33] <gnomefreak> Nuked: not really sure.
[03:34] <gnomefreak> Flannel: knows
[03:34] <gnomefreak> ;)
[03:34] <crimsun> eric__: much of the underlying 'plumbing' is fairly different.
[03:35] <Nuked> Flannel, gdm defecates everytime I try to run sudo gdmsetup
[03:35] <gnomefreak> Flannel: about gdm issues?
[03:35] <crimsun> eric__: the concept of abstraction allows you to be fooled into thinking they're not all that different :-)
[03:35] <Flannel> eric__: but, only the 'plumbing' for the graphical stuff.  the kernel stuff and other things are identical.
[03:35] <gnomefreak> Nuked: try gksudo
[03:35] <Flannel> no, gdmsetup is command line, I believe.
[03:35] <Flannel> why would I know? heh.  I'm on a terminal ;)
[03:35] <ic56> ron999: huh.  When you type "/bin/ls -l /media"  Does the right-most column of output contain such an entry?  Or is it the just the floppy and floppy0 entries (and cdrom entries)?
[03:36] <Nuked> Flannel,  gdmsetup needs to be root
[03:36] <Flannel> Nuked: right, but not gksudo, it's a terminal program.
[03:36] <Nuked> sudo then
[03:36] <Nuked> or sudo su?
[03:36] <Flannel> sudo
[03:36] <ron999> ic56 wait
[03:37] <Student> Flannel, Thank you.
[03:37] <Nuked> it still gives me the same error message Flannel
[03:37] <Flannel> Nuked: so, your glade file is on crack, eh?  interesting error message.  right,  Ijuts found your paste.  Um, have you tried reinstalling it?  remove it completely (with --purge, to kill the config files) then reinstall it?
[03:37] <Nuked> I did Flannel
[03:38] <ron999> ic56 last 4 lines end in cdrom0 cdrom0 floppy0 floppy0
[03:39] <ic56> ron999: right.  These are the entries I expected to see.  There's no "Floppy 1" there, is there?
[03:39] <Justi1> How come i can't find the sun-java5 package in the synaptic package manager
[03:39] <ron999> ic56, correct, no Floppy 1
[03:39] <Flannel> Nuked: hmm.  No idea.  You might try asking the gnome people, they'd be more familiar with the whole thing.
[03:39] <Nuked> im asking
[03:39] <LjL> Justi1: you probably don't have multiverse enabled
[03:39] <Flannel> Nuked: oddly enough, google doesn't know anything.  Is this dapper?
[03:39] <LjL> !tell Justi1 about repos
[03:40] <Nuked> yes it is Flannel
[03:40] <Justi1> how do i enable multiverse?
[03:40] <Flannel> Nuked: hmm, alright.  Let me see if I have that file in breezy.
[03:40] <LjL> Justi1: Ubotu just sent you a link that tells you how
[03:40] <gnomefreak> dont send him back to me i dont know nuffin :(
[03:40] <ic56> ron999: what about /etc/fstab?  Try this: grep F /etc/fstab  (in this case, we're telling grep to search for the capital letter "F" in the specified file, rather than searching in it's piped input
[03:41] <Justi1> ok
[03:41] <eric__> crimsun: Accepting that they're very different - with different development histories, teams - there's so much convergence on a functional level.  Am I giving up very much when I move from one to the other?
[03:41] <minerale> Ok, everything was fine until I installed the security updates. now grub does not have a listing for windows anymore ... what line must I add if my windows install is located at /dev/hda1
[03:41] <ron999> ic56 ok wait
[03:41] <tsume> hehehhe
[03:41] <Nuked> crimsun, any recommendations?
[03:41] <tsume> ubuntu 6.10 Knot?
[03:41] <Flannel> Alright, Nuked, I've got that file.  It's XML, so you should be able to hand edit it easily enough.
[03:41] <jon_> Just joined minutes ago; my chat experience is almost none. Just reading for now, hope to help/get help in future. Using Xubuntu Dapper.
[03:41] <crimsun> eric__: in terms of kubuntu vs. ubuntu, they're not very different.
[03:41] <ron999> ic56 no output from grep
[03:41] <tsume> Knot, makes me think of canine mating, as in the bulbus gland on the male which creates the  "Knot" in canine reproduction
[03:42] <crimsun> eric__: no, you don't 'lose' much
[03:42] <Flannel> Nuked: I can give you mine, but it mightve changed for dapper.
[03:42] <Nuked> edit what Flannel ?
[03:42] <crimsun> Nuked: for what? I'm not following this channel atm
[03:42] <ic56> ron999: ok, so there's no F in /etc/fstab.  Hence there can be no "Floppy 1" in /etc/fstab.  One last shot: let's see if there's such a beast mounted.  Try: mount |grep F
[03:42] <Flannel> Nuked: /usr/share/gdm/gdmsetup.glade
[03:43] <Nuked> crimsun gdm gives me a sreange error message about a file missing
[03:43] <JimD> It would be really neat if ubiquity (the installer in Dapper) offered an option to just point the installer at a pre-mounted target directory (and a pre-created swap partition)
[03:43] <ron999> ic56 no output from mount |grep F
[03:43] <crimsun> Nuked: checked the file against http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ?
[03:44] <ic56> ron999: hmmm, running out of options here. As a shot in the dark, let's try: ls -ld /mnt/*F* /tmp/*F*
[03:44] <Warbo> JimD: I think the installer could do with a lot of work. Like LVM
[03:44] <Nuked> crimsun for local_background_image_chooserbutton?
[03:44] <Flannel> Nuked: That file (gdmsetup.glade) describes all the different GDM setups, it's what you edit for themes, etc.  It just describes a bunch of things and where they are, etc.  So, looks like you have some bad data somewhere in there, just copying a good one should work.  But, do it from Dapper, not from me (breezy)
[03:44] <crimsun> Nuked: no, the file.
[03:44] <ESPOiG> my usb thumbdrive is farked, it cant be mounted as it is the wrong format "it aint really i just did sumtin ages ago but i cant mem, and now it cant be mounted, is there a way to format it in ubuntu with command line or something in fat32 cuz i cant seem to find it in gparted??
[03:45] <Warbo> What language is Ubuquity written in? I know Ubuntu likes Python, and I know a bit of that
[03:45] <Nuked> flannel should I paste the gdm thing?
[03:45] <JimD> I'd prefer that someone just poingted me at where I could do just a little work ... so I could tell it to skip all that stuff about partitioning and mounting and just let me do that from the command line.
[03:45] <Flannel> Nuked: that wouldn't be a bad idea
[03:45] <Nuked> crimsun An error occurred while loading user interface element local_background_image_chooserbutton from file /usr/share/gdm/gdmsetup.glade.  Possibly the glade interface description was corrupted.  gdm cannot continue and will exit now.  You should check your installation of gdm or reinstall gdm.
[03:45] <Bung> im trying to get my friend to upgrade to Java5 (1.5) using Synaptic ... I had him enable all his "Multiverse"s .. but he cant find anything searching sun java or sun-java5-jre etc... any thoughts?
[03:45] <ron999> ic56 ls: /mnt/*F*: No such file or directory
[03:45] <ron999> drwx------ 2 ron ron 4096 2006-07-23 19:09 /tmp/keyring-kcpCFS
[03:45] <ron999> -rw-r--r-- 1 ron ron 1196 2006-07-23 20:58 /tmp/tmp2JSEOF
[03:46] <jon_> ESPOiG, you shd be able to use cfdisk to re-format your thumbdrive.
[03:46] <crimsun> Nuked: have you tried ``sudo apt-get --reinstall install gdm'' ?
[03:46] <linuxForHumans2> I have a quick driver question, is there someone that could help me?
[03:46] <Warbo> Bung: 1) Make sure the full Multiverse is enabled (SO many people only enable backports) 2) Make sure you update the package lists 3) sun-java5-bin is the package name
[03:47] <Bung> Warbo: thanks
[03:47] <Warbo> !info sun-java5-bin
[03:47] <Grok_> linuxForHumans2: no need to ask to ask...just ask it
[03:47] <ubotu> sun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In repository multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-06-1 (dapper), package size 21625 kB, installed size 65608 kB
[03:47] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: post your question -- if someone can help, they will :)
[03:47] <Warbo> Just making sure :)
[03:47] <linuxForHumans2> Anyone know how to get the Adaptec 1420SA device working in 6.06?
[03:47] <Nuked> crimsun yes
[03:47] <Justi1> so once i enable universe and multiverse, im going to see sun-java5 package in the package manager?
[03:47] <ic56> ron999: yeah.  None of these look anything like "Floppy".  Sorry ron999.  Nautilus is still a bit of a mystery to me.  I have no idea how it's coming up with that "Floppy 1" icon.  Try asking the channel.  Make sure you specify that the spelling isn't a typo -- it'll be the first thing people ask to confirm.
[03:47] <ic56> ron999: good luck!
[03:48] <crimsun> Nuked: are you using the default theme or a custom one?
[03:48] <noiesmo> Justi1, you'll need to apply and then update
[03:48] <raskolnikov> can someone tell me how to remove the password when i close my laptop lid?
[03:48] <Justi1> ok
[03:48] <linuxForHumans2> Anyone know how to get the Adaptec 1420SA device working in 6.06?
[03:48] <noiesmo> !repeat
[03:48] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:48] <Warbo> !patience > linuxForHumans2
[03:48] <ron999> ic56 ok, you've solved my problem, thanks for your patience.....
[03:48] <linuxForHumans2> !patience
[03:49] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:49] <ic56> ron999: you're welcome.
[03:49] <Grok_> linuxForHumans2: you need to be a bit more descriptive other than "it doesn't work"...error msgs, what you've done to try to get it to work, etc
[03:49] <ron999> ic56 if i have to do another clean install sometime in the future will i have to do all this again
[03:49] <linuxForHumans2> I have read that it was possible to use aacraid to detect the device, but I don't know what to do after I have modprobed for aacraid
[03:50] <Nuked> crimsun a default one now that I reinstalled it
[03:50] <Justi1> ok, now i see the sun-java5, but do i install the -bin?
[03:50] <Warbo> Justi1: That is the one to run Java programs with
[03:50] <Justi1> ok
[03:50] <Justi1> thanks
[03:50] <raskolnikov> can someone tell me how to remove the password when i close my laptop lid?
[03:50] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: what happens when you modprobe it?  is the module installed?  is it in use?
[03:51] <ic56> ron999: the /etc/filesystems file we created isn't part of the default install, so you'd have to do that again.  The other stuff was just bringing your system up to par with a standard install.  Of course, if the install fails again in teh same way, well, you'll have to either figure out how to force the installer to do the right thing or you'll have to create the floppy setup manually as you did yesterday and today
[03:51] <philth> Has anyone had similiar problems with the "Waiting for Headers" hang?
[03:51] <linuxForHumans2> how can I tell for sure.  (I do think it installs, there are no errors)
[03:51] <linuxForHumans2> it just goes to a new line
[03:52] <dfcarney> what does 'lsmod' say?  is the module listed?
[03:52] <dfcarney> how about 'dmesg'?
[03:52] <linuxForHumans2> let me check
[03:52] <Warbo> Use dmesg | tail
[03:52] <Warbo> (dmesg is LONG)
[03:52] <dfcarney> Warbo: good point
[03:53] <linuxForHumans2> lsmod shows aacraid, but it is not being used by anything, under 'used by' it shows a 0
[03:53] <Nuked> crimsun any ideas?
[03:53] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: 'dmesg' should give you a fairly descriptive summary of any module-related activity...it should be fairly obvious if your attempt worked...
[03:53] <Grok_> linuxForHumans2: just a tip...linux usually only gives you back msgs when something's wrong. if it drops to a newline like that it's *usually* a good thing
[03:53] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: ah.  in that case, aacraid isn't being used at all.
[03:53] <linuxForHumans2> last line of dmesg [17182042.712000]  Adaptec aacraid driver (1.1-4 Jul 17 2006 20:06:11)
[03:53] <ron999> ic56 yes, i hope it doesn't happen again, thanks again, maybe we'll meet up again here, bye
[03:54] <Ackeubu_> Hey im trying to install e17 i found a script. running the script errors with this: easy_e17.sh: line 741: locateecho: command not found. Anyone knows locateecho>>??
[03:54] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: have you tried building your own driver and installing it?  i did a quick check and adaptec has source code available (i386)
[03:54] <ketetha_> argh ih ave a big problem i think it sbig
[03:54] <ic56> ron999: you're welcome.  If you have to do it again, at least you learned a bit and next time will be easier.
[03:54] <linuxForHumans2> I was havinf trouble with that
[03:55] <Student> Be aware that "Breezy Badger" requires about 1.8 Gb to install and operate, and any less than a 4 Gb root (/) partition with a 256 Mb swap partition can make the install process stop abruptly.-----What does that mean exactly?
[03:55] <ketetha_> i cant get into my accoutn because it keeps liek setting me back. and all i did was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=145068&highlight=aiglx
[03:55] <linuxForHumans2> that's why I came here to see if someone may be able to help me with that
[03:55] <Warbo> Ackeubu_: There is an Ubuntu repository for E17 somewhere...
[03:55] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: trouble as in you're not sure what you're doing, or actual compilation/installation problems?
[03:55] <linuxForHumans2> the instructions were a bit confusing
[03:55] <Nuked> Warbo, Id avoid those repos like the plague
[03:56] <crimsun> Nuked: I don't use gdm, so I don't know offhand, nor do I have ready access atm.
[03:56] <Warbo> Nuked: Well, I prefer repos to install scripts
[03:56] <Nuked> true
[03:56] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: yeah, that kind of thing takes a bit of practice to get used to...
[03:56] <Nuked> crimsun would there be any issues if I decided to use kdm?
[03:56] <noiesmo> linuxForHumans2, just reading this doesnt look good for 1420sa
[03:56] <linuxForHumans2> is it possible for you to help me walk through it?
[03:56] <noiesmo> linuxForHumans2, http://www.brentnorris.net/blog/?p=158
[03:57] <Bung> Warbo: when you say full multiverse, you mean enable PLF ?
[03:57] <Ackeubu_> Warbo ill just comment away locateecho and hope it doesnt do anything...
[03:57] <Nuked> Ackeubu_, id do it by hand
[03:57] <crimsun> Nuked: I don't believe so
[03:57] <Warbo> Bung: No, just the main Ubuntu multiverse repository. There are a couple of lines containing "multiverse" and many people end up enabling backports but not the real Ubuntu multiverse
[03:58] <Ackeubu_> Nuked, thanks, im to noob to do that.. >( i already f4cked up my system so bad, i cant even use gnome. im hoping to be able to use e17 at least after this.....:o
[03:58] <Student> Be aware that "Breezy Badger" requires about 1.8 Gb to install and operate, and any less than a 4 Gb root (/) partition with a 256 Mb swap partition can make the install process stop abruptly.-----What does that mean exactly?
[03:58] <Warbo> Ackeubu_: Maybe you screwed your system by commenting out lines in install scripts? :)
[03:59] <Bung> Warbo: in the Software Preferences in Synaptic, under the Installation tab, in the channels list, I had him select ALL multiverses for each channel listed ...
[03:59] <Ackeubu_> Warbo: hahaha
[03:59] <protocol1> whats the path for xorg.conff?
[03:59] <protocol1> whats the path for xorg.conf?
[03:59] <noiesmo> /etc/X11
[03:59] <Warbo> protocol1: /etc/X11
[03:59] <Bung> Warbo: via Edit->Multiverse checkbox
[03:59] <btrento> could someone help me with some ndiswrapper problems
[03:59] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, I just need the driver so I can view partitions on the drives already.
[03:59] <rmjb> Hi, I have dapper installed on hda but windows is on mapper_nvidia_cfecdcbc, how do I put an entry into grub for windows?
[03:59] <Ackeubu_> fr34kn linux gives me grey hair waaay to early
[03:59] <Warbo> Bung: Hmm. Is an obscure mirror being used? If so try a more mainstream one
[03:59] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: gimme a sec...i'm downloading the source code now...
[03:59] <murph2481> i added a second internal hard drive, i can see it in windows but it doesn't get mounted automatically in ubuntu??? how do i fix that?
[04:00] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, thank you so much
[04:00] <Warbo> !mount
[04:00] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[04:00] <Bung> Warbo: Im not sure which he is using, but Ill see what i can find in the docs for mirrors, thanks
[04:01] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: ugh.  their source code is packaged in an .rpm
[04:01] <Student> What does this mean exactly-->"Be aware that "Breezy Badger" requires about 1.8 Gb to install and operate, and any less than a 4 Gb root (/) partition with a 256 Mb swap partition can make the install process stop abruptly."
[04:01] <Ackeubu_> Warbo, but it has to be possilble to comment out obscure coomands such as locateecho. commands that are not even googleable......
[04:01] <roostishaw> gnomefreak or Nuked, any ideas?
[04:01] <rmjb> !repeat
[04:01] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:01] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: what part of the instructions don't you understand?
[04:01] <rmjb> Hi, I have dapper installed on hda but windows is on mapper_nvidia_cfecdcbc, how do I put an entry into grub for windows?
[04:02] <Warbo> Ackeubu_: Read through the script and see what it is trying to do, then do it yourself manually. A) You'll learn and B) You shouldn't screw anything up
[04:03] <ron991> ic56 I'm back
[04:03] <Ackeubu_> Warbo:  will do unless it goes through now..
[04:03] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: did you partition the drives in Windows?  do you have multiple disks (in a RAID), or just one?
[04:04] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, they are not raided, but one has windows on it and the other is ntfs formatted
[04:04] <boga> what command can I use to know what kernel I am running? I don't want to reboot!
[04:04] <Warbo> uname -r
[04:04] <boga> thanx
[04:05] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, for this I am creating a new driver, and I install the rpm using alien -i, then I cd to the proper directory
[04:05] <roostishaw> anyone know why sudo apt-get build-dep gaim would give me the error "E: Build-dependencies for gaim could not be satisfied."
[04:05] <Commander-Crowe> my God its hot here
[04:05] <rmjb> !repeat
[04:06] <ubotu> Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:06] <rmjb> Hi, I have dapper installed on hda but windows is on mapper_nvidia_cfecdcbc, how do I put an entry into grub for windows?
[04:06] <boga> my CPU is an AMD Sempron 1.8ghz, and am using the 386 kernel. Is this OK or should I use the 686 one?
[04:06] <Student> What does this mean exactly??-->            "Be aware that "Breezy Badger" requires about 1.8 Gb to install and operate, and any less than a 4 Gb root (/) partition with a 256 Mb swap partition can make the install process stop abruptly."
[04:07] <ic56> hey ron991.  What's up?
[04:07] <keleus> boga, you should use the AMD one i believe. K7
[04:07] <Warbo> boga: Maybe the k7 one would be best?
[04:07] <Bung> rmjb: http://www.google.ca/search?q=ubuntu+grub+windows or http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_restore_GRUB_menu_after_Windows_installation
[04:07] <boga> ohh!
[04:07] <keleus> boga, but it is safe to use 686
[04:07] <boga> keleus: will I see any noticeable difference?
[04:07] <dsl1392> my ubuntu installation freezes on the keyboard language step, but i already checked my ram and disk integrity OK
[04:07] <keleus> boga, in this order: k7, 686, 586, 386
[04:08] <philth> Okay, Whenever I run apt-get update, it hangs on waiting for headers, worked fine before.
[04:08] <keleus> boga, yea
[04:08] <btrento> could someone help me with some ndiswrapper problems
[04:08] <boga> ok
[04:08] <_FlUiD_> RadiantFire: i really can't get ubuntu-desktop using apt-get
[04:08] <keleus> boga, not an incredible difference but you can feel it
[04:08] <RadiantFire> thats so wierd
[04:08] <keleus> boga, compiling and CPU intense stuff will see it most
[04:08] <dsl1392> can anyone help me with install?
[04:08] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: i'm worried that you may not be able to read the partitions, as the Windows driver (with which you formatted the drives) may have written them in such a way that they won't be recognized by the Linux driver.  regardless, you may as well try...  which instruction steps do you not understand (note: i don't have a tonne of kernel-2.6 experience with drivers, but i know enough to get around)
[04:08] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, then I enter in ->  sudo ./Build ../driver-aar81xx/ ../shipped-binary/ ../../linux-headers-2.6.15-26 try_quick=Yes blist+=i686
[04:08] <linuxForHumans2> is that correct?
[04:08] <Tonren> Hey guys, I'm at my wit's end.  Can someone help me fix Akregator or Blam?  Either one will be fine, I just need an RSS aggregator to not explode when I use it.
[04:08] <JimD> Student: just what part of that is confusing you?  It's saying that it needs at least 1.8GiB and they recommend 4GiB (of free disk space) and 256MiB (of swap)
[04:09] <roostishaw> anyone know why sudo apt-get build-dep gaim would give me the error "E: Build-dependencies for gaim could not be satisfied."
[04:09] <Commander-Crowe> dsl1392: tell on
[04:09] <Warbo> roostishaw: Do you have deb-src entries enabled?
[04:09] <LaserJock> roostishaw: because apparently it couldn't get all the build dependecies
[04:09] <dsl1392> installation freezes at the keyboard language step
[04:10] <LaserJock> Warbo: you wouldn't need deb-src for that build-dep
[04:10] <dsl1392> tried it several times
[04:10] <roostishaw> Warbo, since i dont know what those are, im guessing not... :D  how could i enable them?
[04:10] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, did u see my post?
[04:10] <Commander-Crowe> dsl1392: what distro are you using?
[04:10] <Student> JimD, ok so there are 2 partitions OS root and swap and root should be more than 4GB and swap more than 256, right? Is there a recommended swap size too?
[04:10] <Commander-Crowe> dsl1392: i386 or 64-bit?
[04:10] <dsl1392> oh 386
[04:11] <roostishaw> LaserJock, yes, thats what iv concluded. do you know how to fix it?
[04:11] <fit4lfe> having problems with firefox shutting down
[04:11] <Commander-Crowe> dsl1392: and whats your system specs (ram, CPU Hard drive space)
[04:11] <fit4lfe> using ubuntu-dapper 6.06
[04:11] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: yeah -- i'm just reviewing the instructions now...
[04:11] <linuxForHumans2> kewl
[04:11] <fit4lfe> anyone else have this problem
[04:11] <ron999> ic56 are you there
[04:12] <Warbo> roostishaw: In /etc/apt/sources.list make sure lines beginning with "deb-src" aren't commented
[04:12] <keleus> fit4lfe, when?
[04:12] <ic56> ron999: yes
[04:12] <LaserJock> Warbo: that wouldn't matter
[04:12] <dadgumit> looking for opinions on automatix
[04:12] <dadgumit> (hi all)
[04:12] <Warbo> LaserJock: OK, just wondering
[04:12] <keleus> dadgumit, dangerous. better not use
[04:12] <LaserJock> roostishaw: can you pastebin the actual warning?
[04:12] <dsl1392> yikes its prety sad 440mhzP3, ~110m ram, 75m boot partition, 1G swap, 4G root
[04:12] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, is it ok if we talk via pm?
[04:12] <ron999> ic56 i've rebooted and everythings gone back to how it was, do you think i forgot to save something
[04:12] <roostishaw> LaserJock, sure, one sec.
[04:13] <Commander-Crowe> dsl1392: you need at least 256 MB and about a 700 MHz CPU
[04:13] <roostishaw> LaserJock, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18744
[04:13] <murph2481> !mount
[04:13] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[04:13] <dsl1392> oops so much for that. i didnt even think to look for system reqs
[04:14] <Commander-Crowe> dsl1392: try xubuntu
[04:14] <btrento> ndiswrapper always try to install to eth1 instead of wlan0. Has anyone had a similar problem or know of a fix
[04:14] <JimD> Student: the widespread historical convention was to have 2.5 * RAM for swap
[04:14] <dsl1392> great thanks
[04:14] <Commander-Crowe> I got that to run on a 466 MHX CPU and 92 MB of ram
[04:14] <rmjb> are there any GUIs to configure grub?
[04:14] <ketetha_> how di fix a problem for missing close maximize and minimize buttons?
[04:15] <JimD> However, I think that's rediculous for some systems today.  (On the laptop I'm typing on that would mean devoting 5GiB to swap)
[04:15] <dsl1392> cool thats about where im at
[04:15] <ic56> ron999: hmmm, I think I know why -- you're on dapper.  At that version of Ubuntu, I think they started using a virtual /dev   If that's the case then the effect of our mknod command disappears after a reboot.  Hadn't thought of that.  Let's confirm it.  Try mount |grep devfs  Any output?
[04:15] <Commander-Crowe> rmjb: what do you want to do?
[04:15] <roostishaw> LaserJock, did you get that?
[04:15] <ron999> ic56 ok wait
[04:15] <ketetha_> amyon eknow? ijust installed agilx or whatever and iahve no more close buttons
[04:15] <ketetha_> i dont know what to do
[04:15] <LaserJock> roostishaw: yes, do you have the Universe repositories enabled?
[04:15] <rmjb> Commander-Crowe: windows is on a SATA-RAID some mapper_nvidia_... and the dapper install did not detect it
[04:15] <ron999> ic56 no output
[04:16] <Commander-Crowe> lol alt+F4
[04:16] <rmjb> I want to add it to the grub menu
[04:16] <JimD> On the other hand some new Linux systems do support a feature called "swsusp" that suggests you use at least swap = RAM
[04:16] <Ronz> thats alot...
[04:16] <Commander-Crowe> rmjb: if you now what partition number its on, then try sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:16] <ic56> ron999: hmmm.  Let's try a case-insensitive search:  mount |grep -i devfs
[04:16] <ketetha_> i dont have an maxmize or close buttons does anyone know the solution?
[04:16] <SupIAmMike> ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso - does that come with airsnort?
[04:17] <ron999> ic56 wait
[04:17] <Ronz> SupIAmMike, you can download it through repositories
[04:17] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: what happens when you type that ./Build command in?  i.e. what output did you get?
[04:17] <ron999> ic56 no output
[04:17] <SupIAmMike> if not, does default "sudo apt-get install airsnort" work or would i have to add a repository?
[04:17] <ketetha_> or not
[04:18] <ardchoille> How do I change a type of file so that it opens with gedit? The filename is file.theme
[04:18] <Ronz> SupIAmMike, you may have to enable universe. but that will work. i run it all the time. ;)
[04:18] <roostishaw> LaserJock, i believe so. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18745
[04:18] <Ronz> just make sure you get kismet also
[04:19] <ic56> ron999: oooook.   That blows my theory.  Let's see if the device is still there: ls -ld /dev/fd*  /dev/fd should still be there like it always was.  What about the /dev/fd0 we created?  If not that, did any other /dev/fd<something> appear?
[04:19] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: also, why are you just using the kernel headers?  i believe that you need the source tree...
[04:19] <rmjb> what's the (hdx,y) for a SATA-RAID drive in grub?
[04:19] <SupIAmMike> does ubuntu no longer had live cds?
[04:19] <ron999> ic56 take it slowly, what shall i do
[04:19] <wims> SupIAmMike,  the install cd is also a live cd
[04:20] <SupIAmMike> oh thats hot
[04:20] <Ronz> SupIAmMike, install
[04:20] <ic56> ron999: ls -ld /dev/fd*
[04:20] <Commander-Crowe> rmjb: try sda
[04:20] <linuxForHumans2> well, when that was the only linux directory there
[04:20] <SupIAmMike> so when i boot the cd i just type live or something instead of enter?
[04:20] <rmjb> sda points to one drive of the RAID-0
[04:20] <Ronz> push enter
[04:20] <Commander-Crowe> yeah
[04:20] <Ronz> "boot or install ubuntu"
[04:20] <Commander-Crowe> its like sda1 or sda2
[04:20] <ron999> ic56 no output
[04:20] <SupIAmMike> thats cool that they put both on 1 cd
[04:20] <wims> SupIAmMike,  i think it automatically boots you into ther live enviroment, if you want to install you have to do it from the desktop
[04:20] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, when I typed ../../ linux(tab) thats what showed
[04:20] <Ronz> ubuntu ftw
[04:21] <wims> or gnome
[04:21] <SupIAmMike> when i boot from cd can i still grab airsnort and kismet? (would i have to mount my hard drive to do that or something?)
[04:21] <LaserJock> roostishaw: hmm, well I'm not sure. It works for me
[04:22] <wims> SupIAmMike,  i dont think those packages are part of the live cd
[04:22] <ic56> ron999: *no* output?!  Not even /dev/fd  ?!  Are you sure you're typing commands in terminal?  If the files don't exist, you should at least get an error message.
[04:22] <dadgumit> keleus: why is automatix dangerous?
[04:22] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: you probably need the actual kernel source installed
[04:22] <wims> there are other better live cd's for wardriving
[04:22] <roostishaw> LaserJock, ok, well... thanks anyway
[04:22] <linuxForHumans2> ok let me do that then, and I will get back to you
[04:22] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: i'd have to see the output of the Build command to get a better idea.
[04:22] <LaserJock> roostishaw: can you paste the result of apt-cache showsrc gaim ?
[04:22] <dadgumit> why would automatix be dangerous?
[04:22] <Ronz> SupIAmMike, if you want to use it for wardriving...i would reccommend installing ubuntu + airsnort + kismet
[04:22] <linuxForHumans2> (19:17:57) linuxForHumans2: justin@ububox:/usr/src/adaptec/build$ sudo ./Build ../driver-aar81xx/ ../shipped-binary/ ../../linux-headers-2.6.15-26 try_quick=Yes blist+=i686
[04:22] <linuxForHumans2> (19:17:57) linuxForHumans2: cp: cannot stat `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-26/drivers/scsi/aar81xx/Makefile.kheaders-26.aar81xx.host_raid': No such file or directory
[04:22] <linuxForHumans2> (19:17:57) linuxForHumans2: cp: cannot stat `/usr/src/adaptec/shipped-binary/host_raid.o.aar81xx.unknown.4.0.3': No such file or directory
[04:22] <linuxForHumans2> (19:17:58) linuxForHumans2: subdir-$(CONFIG_SCSI_AAR81XX) += aar81xx
[04:22] <linuxForHumans2> (19:17:58) linuxForHumans2:  No dotconfig files found, make terminated.
[04:23] <bruenig> !pastebin
[04:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:23] <wims> also get Aircrack-ng
[04:23] <ron999> ic56 bash: /dev/fd: is a directory
[04:23] <linuxForHumans2> sorry, didn't mean to do that
[04:23] <wims> must have for wardriving IMO
[04:23] <dadgumit> could someone tell me why automatix is bad?
[04:23] <SupIAmMike> Ronz - not really war driving, more like war sitting - taking my neighbors :-)
[04:23] <jbroome> !automatix
[04:23] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[04:23] <dadgumit> jbroome, thnx
[04:23] <wims> SupIAmMike,  yeah thats fun :D
[04:24] <Ronz> SupIAmMike, like i am right now. we have thunder storms
[04:24] <Ronz> =)
[04:24] <ic56> ron999: so, when you type ls -ld /dev/fd*  you should get at least output for /dev/fd .
[04:24] <_bbandit> me too
[04:24] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: for 2.6.15 it's about 45 MB -- i have to take off soon, so i may not be around to help you out by the time it's downloaded
[04:24] <hiffy> howdy folks
[04:24] <ron999> ic56 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2006-07-24 04:06 /dev/fd -> /proc/self/fd
[04:24] <ron999> ron@ron-desktop:~$
[04:24] <linuxForHumans2> I am on a cable moden, it will be quick
[04:24] <Ronz> and SupIAmMike i have also found out that linux drivers tend to be better than windows wireless drivers
[04:24] <ic56> ron999: that's more like it.  So how come before you said you got no output?  What did you do different?
[04:25] <ron999> ic56 i dunno, i closed the terminal and reopened it....
[04:26] <ron999> ic56 will you just explain in words what's wrong and i'll try it meself tomorrow, it's 3am
[04:26] <dadgumit> automatix room is empty
[04:26] <userone> hi...I nedd to send some compressed files to a Windows user. This may be a silly question, but does anyone know if Windows can easily open a tar archive?
[04:26] <sethk> ic56, perhaps he had done a chroot?
[04:26] <hiffy> userone: winzip can open tars
[04:27] <hiffy> and .gz too iirc
[04:27] <Commander-Crowe> userone: winace and winRAR
[04:27] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, is there an email address I can reach you at?
[04:27] <_bbandit> userone,  they can with winzip or winrar
[04:27] <userone> hiffy: thanks!!
[04:27] <ic56> ron999: well, it seems that any device nodes which you create manually in /dev get deleted upon the next boot.  Thus, our "sudo mknod /dev/fd0 b 2 0"  is being lost.
[04:27] <ardchoille> dadgumit: it's not empty, there are 11 people in there
[04:27] <ic56> ron999: sethk makes a good point
[04:27] <hiffy> say, my copy of azureus is refusing to shelve this tiny little error msg in the corner of my screen
[04:27] <ron999> ic56 ok
[04:27] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: sure<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:27] <dadgumit> ardchoille: yeah, i was premature sorry
[04:28] <hiffy> clicking on "hide all" isnt doing anything for me. Would anyone happen to know anything about that?
[04:28] <_bbandit> hiffy,  use utorrent instead :D
[04:28] <hiffy> _bbandit: I thought that that was nonfree and windows only
[04:28] <_bbandit> true
[04:28] <_bbandit> but it works with wine
[04:28] <bruenig> dadgumit, if you are expecting them to answer why automatix is bad, that probably is a bit idealistic as that tends to be a channel for devs and the like and generally people don't like saying there own projects suck and are dangerous
[04:29] <hiffy> you, kind sir, are frustrating. Someone should hit you with a trout
[04:29] <ic56> ron999: try reissuing that sudo mknod command.  Things should start working again.  Then try rebooting.  If /dev/fd0 has disappared again, then clearly the problem is persistent and you'll have to follow up.  Until you find a permanent solution, you'll have to keep recreating the device manually every time you boot.  The work-around can be automated too but we won't get into that.
[04:29] <bruenig> hiffy, the stable version of azureus, from my experiences wont allow you to click those messages
[04:29] <bruenig> hiffy, the new betas work though
[04:30] <dadgumit> here is a good question I have, I had the double speed bug, and the fix described making a change in grub. Only problem is, the commands that worked for me (noacip and nolacip) are put before the (approximation) ro splash quiet stuff, it freezes on boot unless I edit the boot line in grub to include the noacip nolacip at the END of the boot string
[04:30] <_bbandit> hiffy,  me ?
[04:30] <ic56> sethk: thanks
[04:30] <ron999> ic56 ok wait
[04:30] <hiffy> That's kind of a big blunder to call something stable, isn't it bruenig ?
[04:30] <userone> ok..thanks everyone
[04:30] <bruenig> hiffy, i debated putting the quotes around it
[04:30] <bruenig> that is what they call it on their site
[04:30] <hiffy> More like, not in the repository beta
[04:30] <Wiseguy> hey guys do you know of any apps that can read chm files?
[04:31] <_bbandit> isn't that windows help files?
[04:31] <redcard> Wiseguy: What are chm files?
[04:31] <hiffy> Hmm. Didn't have THAT problem in gentoo.
[04:31] <hiffy> mmkay. I'll get around to installing one of the betas.
[04:31] <_bbandit> a wild guess is that wine might read them, but i doubt it
[04:31] <Wiseguy> redcard, dunno, good question
[04:31] <ardchoille> redcard: They are compiled help files in the Microsoft world.
[04:31] <hiffy> why would you need to look at them then?
[04:31] <_bbandit> Wiseguy,  isn't that windows help files?
[04:32] <Wiseguy> oh right
[04:32] <hiffy> thanks bruenig.
[04:32] <dadgumit> here is a good question I have, I had the double speed bug, and the fix described making a change in grub. Only problem is, the commands that worked for me (noacip and nolacip) are put before the (approximation) ro splash quiet stuff, it freezes on boot unless I edit the boot line in grub to include the noacip nolacip at the END of the boot string
[04:32] <Wiseguy> is it possible to open them in ubuntu?
[04:32] <h3h_timo> could someone help me with a problem dealing with sudo??
[04:33] <hiffy> dadgumit: wheres the question?
[04:33] <MatthewV> h3h_timo, whats the problem?
[04:33] <bruenig> hiffy, here is the latest beta, you just download it rename it Azureus2.jar and then replace the original, pretty easy
[04:33] <bruenig> http://azureus.sourceforge.net/index_CVS.php
[04:33] <ron999> ic56 i've issued the command and floppy will format , mount, open unmount etc
[04:33] <hiffy> sweet. thanks bruenig
[04:33] <_bbandit> Wiseguy,  did you try with wine ?
[04:33] <h3h_timo> MatthewV, when i try to sudo i get this: sudo: unable to lookup Brad's Computer via gethostbyname()
[04:33] <stiv2k> how come i can't set my wifi card to transmit any higher than 60mW?  it can run up to 85mW but whenever i try setting it, it only goes lower
[04:33] <ardchoille> Wiseguy: There is an app, called gnochm, it's in universe.
[04:34] <hiffy> http://xchm.sourceforge.net/ try that out
[04:34] <hiffy> 2nd google hit [Wiebel]
[04:34] <hiffy> er
[04:34] <hiffy> Wiseguy:
[04:34] <hiffy> i'll give that a shot. thanks bruenig.
[04:34] <ic56> ron999: good. Write down the command -- you're gonna need it until this is solved.  Now try rebooting.  Does that break things again?  If so, re-issue the command every time you boot
[04:34] <MatthewV> h3h_timo, sry, never seen that one before...
[04:35] <bruenig> hiffy, don't hold me to that beta being perfect, I am using beta 48, and this is 67, so might have added more and created bugs in the process
[04:35] <h3h_timo> MatthewV, i think it has to do with changing my name on the network, do you know what config file id have to edit to get it to work??
[04:35] <hiffy> bruenig: thats usually how it goes
[04:35] <ron999> ic56 yes, i have copied the command, i'll enter it into the terminal each session i think i will neeed  floppy
[04:35] <hiffy> slong as I can actually use Azureus.
[04:36] <hiffy> This is currently the snag number two in my ubuntu experience
[04:36] <ic56> ron999: ok
[04:36] <MatthewV> h3h_timo, if its changin ur name on the network: /etc/hostname
[04:36] <bruenig> hiffy, before the beta I would just close azureus and then start it up again, that did it
[04:36] <_bbandit> why would you want to use Azureus anyway ?
[04:36] <hiffy> when I close it it disappears
[04:36] <ic56> ron999: wanna save yourself some typing?
[04:36] <hiffy> no tray icon
[04:36] <ron999> ic56 do you think you will eventually be able to think of the solution?
[04:36] <hiffy> and the error window stays there
[04:37] <hiffy> _bbandit: if you would like to offer a concrete alternative that is not a troll I'm all ears.
[04:37] <bruenig> hiffy, not hitting the x, but going to file exit
[04:37] <hiffy> bruenig: same thing, tried that too.
[04:37] <_bbandit> hiffy,  i did. I mentioned utorrent, which runs under wine
[04:37] <_bbandit> it's the one i'm using
[04:37] <_bbandit> it's not a troll
[04:37] <hiffy> _bbandit: a non linux, non free solution in a linux distro channel, well
[04:37] <bruenig> _bbandity, utorrent with wine doesn't work very well, the thing blinks every couple of seconds and when you pull it up from the tray you always have to resize it
[04:37] <hiffy> I'ma keep with the troll.
[04:38] <odat> hi everyone
[04:38] <hiffy> plus what bruenig said.
[04:38] <odat> anyone want to give me some feedback about a project i'm working on and about finished with
[04:38] <ron999> ic56 i'll type the command into a file and copy and paste it until i get to know it off by heart
[04:38] <ic56> ron999: no.  I don't have that problem on my system so I can't replicate it.  I suspect it's a case of the system doing a cleanup at boot time -- trying to protect you from any damage you did previously.  In this case, it's working against you.  But I don't know where that's being done
[04:38] <hiffy> odat: depends
[04:38] <hiffy> whats the project
[04:38] <odat> hiffy, ?
[04:38] <ic56> ron999: actually, hang on, checking something
[04:38] <stiv2k> how come i can't set my wifi card to transmit any higher than 60mW?  it can run up to 85mW but whenever i try setting it, it only goes lower
[04:38] <odat> hiffy, something for all open source system people
[04:39] <mohan> hello guys
[04:39] <bruenig> I loved utorrent on windows and when they port it I will switch for sure but wine utorrent is less than spectacular even though it uses much less resources and accomplishes everything I want for azureus, bittorrent and rss feeds
[04:39] <odat> i'm at a road block in my brain and need some help
[04:39] <hiffy> odat: okay, link it
[04:39] <odat> http://www.fossystems.com
[04:40] <_bbandit> bruenig,  well, azuerus isn't exactly spectacular either ;P
[04:40] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, I sent you an email
[04:40] <mohan> quick question, i am trying to install dapper drake from CD but i would like to skip the live cd and go straight to the install , anyway to do this ?
[04:40] <hiffy> WHAT
[04:40] <ic56> ron999: hmmm, do this for me please: find /etc/rc?.d  |xargs grep MAKE
[04:40] <bruenig> _bbandity, works perfect, looks great
[04:40] <bruenig> what are the complaints
[04:40] <_bbandit> well, first of all it's java
[04:40] <hiffy> odat: that will tank so fast
[04:40] <_bbandit> it's slow
[04:40] <bruenig> yes, i mentioned
[04:40] <hiffy> _bbandit: whats wrong with java?
[04:40] <ic56> ron999: on the topic of saving yourself typing, do this for me too and tell me what it says: echo $PATH
[04:40] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, where do I get the kernel source, I did not see it in the repositories
[04:40] <odat> hiffy, why is that?
[04:41] <hiffy> linuxForHumans2: kernel.org
[04:41] <_bbandit> it's slow
[04:41] <hiffy> odat: no one will ever use that
[04:41] <Nuked> te glade file for the GUI seems to be of a different version!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:41] <_bbandit> and a resource hog
[04:41] <bruenig> although I don't tend to sit around configuring azureus all the time. It is a one time set up and then let it run into the tray and automatically download my daily show and colbert report
[04:41] <alucard> good evening
[04:41] <odat> hiffy, well thats a hell of a reason
[04:41] <odat> hiffy, not too good at feedback huh
[04:41] <hiffy> Odat: you're competing against ebay
[04:41] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: "apt-cache search linux-source" will give you a list of packages
[04:41] <ron999> ic56 /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games
[04:41] <ic56> ron999: change the search string in the first command to MAKEDEV like so: find /etc/rc?.d  |xargs grep MAKEDEV
[04:41] <hiffy> one of your ads at the bottom from google
[04:42] <hiffy> actually says, 'the fastest way to search ebay'
[04:42] <Wiseguy> do any of you guys have an HP deskjet d4160?  i cant find any info about it and working with linux
[04:42] <bruenig> I might give utorrent another try, I couldn't stand the resizing everytime you pulled it back from the tray
[04:42] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: you probably want to then run "apt-get install <package>", in this case <package>=linux-source-2.6.17
[04:42] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: oops.  i means 2.6.15
[04:42] <Nuked> gnomefreak,  the glade file for the GUI seems to be of a different version
[04:42] <hiffy> if anyone will ever look past the shady style odat and actually use it, they'll have a hard time finding anyone else to buy it
[04:42] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: *meant.  sheesh.
[04:42] <odat> hiffy, not really ebay won't cater to a particular group and besides they also charge for listings and they don't take revenue generated to help push open source systems either
[04:42] <MarcN> Wiseguy: I just got an hp printer/scanner/copier (PSC 1510) and works great out of the box! (including scanning).  Check linuxprinting.org to see if it is supported.
[04:42] <hiffy> odat how do you make money?
[04:42] <alucard> Hi everybody. I'm looking for a channel related to educational projects or alternatives
[04:43] <hiffy> with this site that is.
[04:43] <ron999> ic56 whole lot of text on that last command
[04:43] <odat> hiffy, whats shady about it?
[04:43] <Nuked> bruenig utorrent works on linux?
[04:43] <ic56> ron999: either pastebin it or we can switch to a private channel
[04:43] <hiffy> odat: the font, the non antialised gfx
[04:43] <bruenig> Nuked, with wine
[04:43] <hiffy> odat: the fact that it looks like its a default style from some package
[04:43] <Cyorxamp> Hey, I have outlined a mega networking mystery at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221717
[04:44] <Cyorxamp> Worth a look if your real advanced on networking
[04:44] <bruenig> Wiseguy, the driver may not be listed, but you can generally use one of the other HP deskjet drivers and it will work, it is all pretty much the same
[04:44] <ron999> ic56 i dont know how to pastebin, use a private channel if it's not inconveint
[04:44] <ron999> ic56*inconvenient
[04:44] <ic56> ron999: actually, try this command -- it should give less output: find /etc/rc?.d  |xargs grep -l MAKEDEV
[04:44] <ardchoille> How do I change a type of file so that it opens with gedit?
[04:44] <odat> hiffy, gotcha so your only about commercialized industry not about an idea
[04:44] <Wiseguy> i did try, and it made the printer go haywire
[04:44] <hiffy> odat: you're being hostile to my upfrontness
[04:44] <hiffy> if you plan to make money, good luck but i wouldn't bet money on you
[04:44] <ic56> ron999: ok, I'll invite you to a private channel if the output from the new command is too long.  Let me know
[04:44] <MarcN> Wiseguy: this is a better place to see if your printer is supported: http://hplip.sourceforge.net/    be sure to have the hplip package installed.
[04:45] <ron999> ic56/etc/rc0.d/K20makedev
[04:45] <ron999> /etc/rc1.d/K20makedev
[04:45] <ron999> /etc/rc2.d/S20makedev
[04:45] <ron999> /etc/rc3.d/S20makedev
[04:45] <ron999> /etc/rc4.d/S20makedev
[04:45] <ron999> /etc/rc5.d/S20makedev
[04:45] <ron999> /etc/rc6.d/K20makedev
[04:45] <_bbandit> ewww
[04:45] <_bbandit> don't do that
[04:45] <ic56> ron999: aha! bingo!
[04:45] <ardchoille> ron999: You were kicked earlier for that
[04:45] <odat> hiffy, i'm not planning to make money  i'm trying to help open source the best way i can   obviously we now know what your all about
[04:45] <LaserJock> alucard: what are you looking for specifically?
[04:45] <jordan> has anyone installed the nvidia drivers on ubuntu for a geforce gfx card ?
[04:45] <kintaro0e> hello everyone...i need advice..i need to setup a file server..currently i have production server which is on the public network, and i have clients on a private network..do i need to install samba?does the private network can get and store files on it?
[04:46] <hiffy> odat: I submit patches, translate and submit bug reports. If you want to question my "commitment" to oss, well, that's your choice.
[04:46] <Ronz> jordan, does a 6800 GT count?
[04:46] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, thanks downloading/installing right now
[04:46] <Nuked> have you guys seen the systems offered by system76? all preloaded with ubuntu
[04:46] <Wiseguy> MarcN, yeah it is listed there
[04:46] <jordan> ronz: i guess a geforce is a geforce i have a 6200
[04:46] <vega___> *yawn*
[04:46] <MarcN> Wiseguy: and you have hplip installed?   USB I assume.
[04:46] <odat> hiffy, yes i already made the choice to question it.  And i do
[04:46] <vega___> i just got linux installed and it looks promising =)
[04:46] <hiffy> odat: but do keep in mind that there isn't, to the best of my knowledge, a market for 2nd hand system disks over the internet
[04:47] <Terminus> kintaro0e: depends on what you want. if you want windows clients to be able to access it, then yes, you need samba.
[04:47] <alucard> An IRC channel. I want to know how schools are integrating ubuntu and maybe some curriculums or projects.
[04:47] <LaserJock> alucard: I'd try #edubuntu
[04:47] <Ronz> then yes jordan, i have installed it
[04:47] <Ronz> !nvidia
[04:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:47] <Wiseguy> MarcN, i have the one through synaptic installed..
[04:47] <hiffy> odat: presumably there is one for preset up myth boxes and set up laptops
[04:47] <Wiseguy> and yes USB
[04:47] <alucard> thank you
[04:47] <alucard> thank you!!!
[04:47] <jordan> Ronz, does everything work right ? cause my installer tells me i have some errors and stuff
[04:47] <_FlUiD_> where can i get ubuntu-desktop??
[04:47] <vega___> can someone here tell me if/how i can access the data on my windows partitions from ubuntu?
[04:47] <h3h_timo> MatthewV, i tried to change that, but i cant because when i try to sudo gedit /etc/hostname, it gives me that error
[04:48] <Ronz> yes jordan, all works good. had WoW running this afternoon. =)
[04:48] <MarcN> Wiseguy: that should do it.  did hplip detect the printer when you plugged it in the first time?
[04:48] <odat> hiffy, then i challenge you to find me an auction site that is about new and used computers already setup with open source software
[04:48] <kintaro0e> Terminus: even my server is on public network?hehehe..if yes..are there any configurations that i need to make the private network could use it?or just the configurations of samba
[04:48] <_bbandit> _FlUiD_,  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:48] <hiffy> odat: but the curious chicken and egg problem with internet auctions means that in order to get users you need auctions and in order to get auctions you need usders
[04:48] <jordan> Ronz, the error said: "You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing."
[04:48] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, it is now installed, I will try those instructions again
[04:48] <Ronz> jordan, did you use apt-get install?
[04:49] <Jessehk> In the Kubuntu, when choosing a style for using with gtk apps, where does KDE get the available themes from? Some are missing.
[04:49] <hiffy> odat: there might as well not be, but I doubt in the first place that's because no one hasn't tried.
[04:49] <Wiseguy> MarcN, umm, not that im aware of... the system was booted with the printer plugged in though
[04:49] <_FlUiD_> _bbandit: an error is showing "Couldn't find package ubuntu-desktop"
[04:49] <hiffy> odat: it's rare nowadays to find a distro that doesnt work out of the box with most hardware.
[04:49] <jordan> Ronz, i used "sudo sh NVIDIA....ect.run"
[04:49] <MarcN> Wiseguy: try taking it out, wait a few seconds and plug it in again
[04:49] <Riyonuk> Im back again for help...when trying to use my dial-up, it says its not detected from that drop down meny of dev/tysl00 or something like that
[04:49] <LaserJock> odat: it's and interesting idea but I think "Buy & Sell free open source sytems" is a little confusing
[04:50] <_bbandit> _FlUiD_,  hmmm that's weird
[04:50] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: ok.  lemme know how it works out
[04:50] <Terminus> kintaro0e: just block out the public ip. just configure samba correctly. if you're using a firewall, make sure you have the firewall configured properly too.
[04:50] <MatthewV> h3h_timo, don't think this will help, but try running 'sudo -s' without anything else
[04:50] <odat> hiffy, thats true it is a chicken or egg situation but hopefully it would be understood that if everyones efforts are used to push advertising for a single place to sell open source systems then everyone can be much more visible to the customer
[04:50] <Ronz> jordan, use sudo apt-get install nvidia-kernel-common
[04:50] <_FlUiD_> _bbandit: yeah, i think the repository is not yet set
[04:50] <odat> LaserJock, until you look in the FAQ
[04:50] <Ronz> jordan, then edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and make it point to "nvidia" driver instead of "nv"
[04:50] <_FlUiD_> where is it located?
[04:50] <_bbandit> _FlUiD_,  it should be in the main repository
[04:50] <hiffy> odat: right, right, except any dell I buy will prolly be cheaper and work just as well out of the box
[04:51] <Ronz> and nvidia-glx jordan
[04:51] <_FlUiD_> _bbandit: btw, i am currently using kubuntu
[04:51] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, ok in the directory where the linux headers were, the source is there too, but in a tar.bz2, so I need to unpack that real quick
[04:51] <hiffy> odat: and there are a number of 1st time vendors especialising on foss systems
[04:51] <hiffy> that will also sell you support contracts.
[04:51] <_bbandit> _FlUiD_,  yeah i figured that out, but it should still be in main repository AFAIK
[04:51] <kintaro0e> Terminus: what do you mean by just block out the public ip? :P
[04:51] <jordan> Ronz, how do i make it point to my nvidia driver ? i'm pretty new to linux
[04:51] <hiffy> the 2nd hand market for free open source systems is non existant.
[04:51] <_FlUiD_> _bbandit: any idea why is it happening?
[04:51] <odat> hiffy, very true and you also see those vendors advertising on auction site as well i'm not just limiting the site to used computers
[04:52] <Terminus> kintaro0e: don't allow the rest of the internet to get to your file server.
[04:52] <hiffy> odat: I see auctions and highest bids.
[04:52] <_bbandit> _FlUiD_,  only guess is that main is not in your sources.list
[04:52] <LaserJock> _FlUiD_: seems like your apt-cache is messed up or something
[04:52] <Wiseguy> MarcN, what is supposed to happen? :P
[04:52] <MarcN> Wiseguy: did it work?
[04:52] <_FlUiD_> how can i fix it?
[04:52] <jordan> Ronz, is it possible for you to just copy everything in your xorg.conf and put it on pastebin ?
[04:52] <hiffy> odat: nice idea, but it'll tank and stagnate, imho. You would've gained more out of your time had you registered a cool domain you coulda reused.
[04:53] <MarcN> Wiseguy: for me, a dialog came up and asked to create a new print queue.  I said yes and everything was set up properly.
[04:53] <MarcN> Wiseguy: only needed to do it once.
[04:53] <Wiseguy> damn
[04:53] <_bbandit> _FlUiD_,  open synaptic and see if main is enabled
[04:53] <kintaro0e> Terminus: ah.ok..thanks..i'll just pm you if i'm on the right path..,is it ok.hehee
[04:53] <hiffy> odat: and that is my brutal honest opinion. Sorry if I hurt your feelings.
[04:53] <Ronz> jordan, you dont want to do that
[04:53] <bruenig> !info wine-dev
[04:53] <ubotu> wine-dev: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Development files). In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 1366 kB, installed size 9528 kB
[04:53] <_bbandit> _FlUiD_,  i dunno how to fix apt-cache issues though
[04:53] <Wiseguy> MarcN, doesnt seem like im as lucky
[04:53] <Ronz> im not on my gaming rig jordan
[04:53] <odat> hiffy, you don't hurt my feelings  guys like you end up working for guys like me
[04:53] <dadgumit> here is a good question I have, I had the double speed bug, and the fix described making a change in grub. Only problem is, the commands that worked for me (noacip and nolacip) are put before the (approximation) ro splash quiet stuff, it freezes on boot unless I edit the boot line in grub to include the noacip nolacip at the END of the boot string
[04:53] <bruenig> should i get the development files, what exactly is that
[04:54] <hiffy> odat: do you actually have a company and any employees as of right now?
[04:54] <MarcN> Wiseguy: does creating the queue manually work?
[04:54] <jordan> Ronz, i'm looking at the xorg.conf file now but i don't see were i would put something to point to nvidia
[04:54] <Terminus> kintaro0e: something like socket address = <IP_ADDRESS>/24 in smb.conf will restrict it to that network i think. firewall would work too.
[04:54] <Ronz> to edit the file, you will type "sudo nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and scroll down to the part about the nvidia driver
[04:54] <odat> hiffy, do you actually work for someone ?
[04:54] <Terminus> kintaro0e: oops, sorry. it's socket address = $ip_of_private_interface
[04:54] <dadgumit> Anybody got any ideas on the grub issues?
[04:55] <Ronz> it will be under device jordan
[04:55] <Wiseguy> kind of.. it says "use a detected printer" and it lists the HP Deskjet D4100 series... but when i click on forward it asks for the model (which isnt listed) and then which driver to use
[04:55] <hiffy> odat: I was briefly an intern at a startup but it closed shop cos of no VC funding.  In september I will be on my 2nd year of my CS degree.
[04:55] <Ronz> but make sure you have nvidia-glx and nvidia-kernel-common first!
[04:55] <kintaro0e> Terminus: ah..ok..thanks
[04:55] <hiffy> odat: I hope to specialise in either Soft Eng or Security.
[04:55] <Ronz> heres the wiki jordan:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[04:56] <LaserJock> hiffy and odat: your conversation is not really getting anywhere and is very off topic for this channel
[04:56] <ardchoille> hiffy , odat : can you please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[04:56] <jordan> Ronz, it already says my card and info and for driver it put "nv"
[04:56] <odat> hiffy, excellent at least you have a plan
[04:56] <kintaro0e> Terminus: btw..is it safe to put it on the public? if its not.any alternatives like ftp server?
[04:56] <hiffy> sorry folks.
[04:56] <odat> sorry everyone
[04:56] <hiffy> I'm off.
[04:56] <odat> done
[04:56] <MarcN> Wiseguy: look carefully, sometimes the CUPS list of hp printers is sorted by full name, say Deskjet 4160 vs D4160
[04:56] <LaserJock> hiffy and odat: thanks guys
[04:56] <Ronz> jordan, once you have installed the drivers...you will change it from "nv" to "nvidia". Ubuntu can not release nvidia binary's...so we have to do it this way
[04:56] <odat> LaserJock, np
[04:56] <Wiseguy> not even a 4100 listed
[04:57] <jordan> Ronz,  oh alright so i just change nv to nvidia and i'm done ?!
[04:57] <Ronz> only if you have gotten the nvidia-glx
[04:57] <VegaObscura> can someone show me how to install wine in ubuntu?
[04:58] <Ronz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia is the howto
[04:58] <lecaros> !wine
[04:58] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:58] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, sudo apt-get install wine
[04:58] <Ronz> but if you have everything installed jordan ....yes, thats it. just reboot afterward
[04:58] <jordan> Ronz,  alright thanks alot. i'm going to reboot now then
[04:58] <_bbandit> MatthewV,  he need to enable wine repositories first
[04:58] <dadgumit> here is a good question I have, I had the double speed bug, and the fix described making a change in grub. Only problem is, the commands that worked for me (noacip and nolacip) are put before the (approximation) ro splash quiet stuff, it freezes on boot unless I edit the boot line in grub to include the noacip nolacip at the END of the boot string
[04:58] <LaserJock> Ronz: don't you just run nvidia-glx-config enable ?
[04:58] <Ronz> LaserJock, to enable yes
[04:58] <VegaObscura> running sudo apt-get install wine gives me an error
[04:58] <linuxForHumans2> dfcarney, I have to talk to you via email now, later, sry
[04:59] <VegaObscura> something about could not get lock
[04:59] <MatthewV> _bbandit, oops.. forgot about that...
[04:59] <Ronz> then you edit your xorg.conf file
[04:59] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, do you have synaptic or something open?
[04:59] <LaserJock> Ronz: you shouldn't have to
[04:59] <LaserJock> that's the point of it I thought
[04:59] <VegaObscura> *checks* yes synaptic is open
[04:59] <VegaObscura> close it and try again?
[04:59] <Tlo> Hi! I have just installed ubuntu, but I was not prompted to add a root pwd during install, now i'm trying to update my installation, but I need a root pwd. Is there some default pwd i need to know about?
[04:59] <_bbandit> VegaObscura,  add this lines to your sources.list file :  deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt dapper main
[04:59] <_bbandit> then run apt-get update
[04:59] <Ronz> LaserJock: it made me when i installed it on my dekstop
[04:59] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, yep
[04:59] <_bbandit> and it should be possible to install it with apt-get install wine
[05:00] <VegaObscura> it works this time
[05:00] <VegaObscura> wow you guys are good
[05:00] <MatthewV> _bbandit, wine is in repos isn't it? multiverse... or..
[05:00] <VegaObscura> =)
[05:00] <dadgumit> tlo it is the password for yourmain account prolly
[05:00] <MatthewV> !info wine
[05:00] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.9.9-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 8578 kB, installed size 40460 kB
[05:00] <LaserJock> Ronz: really? for mine I just ran that and it made all the changes in xorg.conf
[05:00] <Wiseguy> when i choose a printer that uses the HPLIP driver the printer almost works, but it starts going haywire and doesnt print anything... just makes me reset the printer
[05:00] <dadgumit> Anyone good with grub?
[05:00] <MatthewV> _bbandit, see ubotu above
[05:00] <ic56> When someone says they have a "amd k6400mhz cpu"  is that a 32-bit or 64-bit CPU?
[05:00] <MatthewV> dadgumit, just ask question and find out:)
[05:00] <_bbandit> MatthewV,  i believe they have their own repository unrelated to ubuntu repositories
[05:00] <Ronz> LaserJock, i may have forgotten to do it...i was just used to doing it the gentoo way =P
[05:00] <eobanb> 32-bit, ic56
[05:00] <dadgumit> MatthewV: Have, noone answers
[05:00] <dadgumit> here is a good question I have, I had the double speed bug, and the fix described making a change in grub. Only problem is, the commands that worked for me (noacip and nolacip) are put before the (approximation) ro splash quiet stuff, it freezes on boot unless I edit the boot line in grub to include the noacip nolacip at the END of the boot string
[05:01] <ic56> eobarb: thanks.  Do you happen to have such a box?  Could you grep something for me?
[05:01] <Dev05> Tlo, is the same as your password.
[05:01] <_bbandit> MatthewV,  oh, i didn't know. I don't think it was there when i installed it back on breezy
[05:01] <Ronz> night yall
[05:01] <LaserJock> Ronz: hehe, I can undestand that, I'm a recovering Gentooer too
[05:01] <MatthewV> _bbandit, no progs
[05:01] <MatthewV> *probs
[05:01] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, installing??
[05:01] <ic56> eobanb: thanks.  Do you happen to have such a box?  Could you grep something for me?
[05:01] <Tlo> dadgumit: I got authentication failure when using my account pwd.
[05:01] <Ronz> LaserJock, at least we wont miss the long nights of recovering our X server. ;)
[05:01] <odat> oh i'm on hiffy's ignore list i'm soooo hurt
[05:01] <MatthewV> dadgumit, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and put them at the end of the appropriate line
[05:01] <dadgumit> Tlo: Sorry, my root pass is the same
[05:02] <skavenge> can anyone help with NAT, both machines can ping each other and ics  is turned on in firestarter yet i cant get anywhere on  the second machine??
[05:02] <LaserJock> Ronz: lol
[05:02] <MatthewV> dadgumit, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:02] <Ronz> LaserJock, i still have night mares and wake up with cold chills
[05:02] <Ryugi> HELLO
[05:02] <GaiaX11> How to change my background login? Actually mine is a blue kubuntu background
[05:02] <eobanb> ic56, i used to have a k6, but not anymore, sorry.
[05:03] <Ronz> GaiaX11, gdmsetup
[05:03] <dadgumit> MatthewV: The double speed bug fix said that I should put them on a different line (that grub will apply to all kernels it boots), are you saying I should change it to the actual line on the Kernel, per kernel?
[05:03] <Ryugi> has anyone ever installed ubuntu on a intel core duo laptop
[05:03] <Ryugi> will it work on it
[05:03] <Ronz> you may need sudo GaiaX11
[05:03] <ic56> eobanb: thanks again.  I'll try the channel
[05:03] <MatthewV> dadgumit, do you have a link to the fix you are following?
[05:03] <odat> Ryugi, sure it will
[05:03] <dadgumit> MatthewV: lemme find it
[05:03] <VegaObscura> can i install windows onto this computer and still be able to boot to ubuntu, without having to reinstall ubuntu?
[05:04] <Ryugi> what about the wireless network card
[05:04] <dfcarney> linuxForHumans2: just emailed you re: the Adaptec driver.  i have serious doubts that you'll be able to get it working under Ubuntu as-is.
[05:04] <_bbandit> VegaObscura, probably
[05:04] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, windows will overwrite the bootloader, but you can fix that
[05:04] <ic56> Anyone have a AMD k6 (32-bit) CPU?  Could you look something up for me on your box?
[05:04] <VegaObscura> how so?
[05:04] <_bbandit> VegaObscura,  but you need a separate partition for windows
[05:04] <GaiaX11> Ronz: Thanks. I will have a look
[05:04] <VegaObscura> i already have a seperate partition ready for it =)
[05:05] <_bbandit> VegaObscura, you need to reinstall grub afterwards
[05:05] <_atomic> Hello
[05:05] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, I would install windows....
[05:05] <VegaObscura> i never installed grub in the first place...
[05:05] <dadgumit> MatthewV: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Double_Clock_Speed
[05:05] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, then boot the ubuntu live cd, and, from terminal, do a chroot /dev/<ubuntu_partition> followed by a sudo grub-install /dev/hda
[05:06] <VegaObscura> thanks!
[05:06] <mrcoyote> bn all ++
[05:06] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, when you get to that stage, just ask on here, and I or someone else will help you :)
[05:06] <MatthewV> if its within an hour or two i will be here
[05:07] <mitel> Hello room / channel
[05:07] <VegaObscura> now just one more question, can i access files on my windows partitions from ubuntu?
[05:07] <VegaObscura> as in reading them, not writing
[05:07] <MatthewV> !ntfs
[05:07] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:07] <_bbandit> :)
[05:07] <MatthewV> VegaObscura, you may not have installed grub, but ubuntu did :)
[05:08] <hiffy> I wish the ubuntu auto mounter would write you an fstab
[05:08] <hiffy> I really dont want to do it myself, especially since the auto mounter mounts them so nicely as it is
[05:08] <GaiaX11> Ronz: look this: sudo gdmsetup
[05:08] <GaiaX11>   Failed to connect to socket, sleep 1 second and retry
[05:09] <dadgumit> MatthewV: any ideas?
[05:09] <tgarza> hello! my ubuntu installation has a problem...It freezes when I tried to run the Open Office apps...I cannot find what is making the system crash.  Any piece of advice would be appreciated.
[05:09] <MatthewV> dadgumit, sry... forgot, I'll look now
[05:09] <dadgumit> MatthewV: np, thnx for the help
[05:09] <Rikkimaru> Could someone help me get my sound working? I'm looking at the wiki and it doesn't seem to help much...
[05:11] <ryan_naruto> how can I mount my usb flash drive manually xubuntu doesnt automatically see it
[05:11] <MatthewV> dadgumit, so what do you add to the menu entry? noapic nolapic ?
[05:11] <Paladine> !info media
[05:11] <ubotu> Package media does not exist in dapper
[05:11] <Paladine> !info dvd
[05:11] <ubotu> Package dvd does not exist in dapper
[05:11] <Paladine> !dvd
[05:11] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[05:11] <Rikkimaru> anyone?
[05:12] <Paladine> anyone remember the link to the extra codecs page?
[05:12] <mitel> !info gresistor
[05:12] <ubotu> Package gresistor does not exist in dapper
[05:12] <Rikkimaru> !info audio
[05:12] <ubotu> Package audio does not exist in dapper
[05:12] <MatthewV> Paladine :
[05:12] <MatthewV> !restricted
[05:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:12] <Paladine> thanks matt
[05:12] <Jimbo2006> !codecs
[05:12] <ryan_naruto> ive installed some codecs but it cant play my avi files properly
[05:12] <caturOK> hello everyone
[05:12] <mitel> !info wildfire
[05:12] <ubotu> Package wildfire does not exist in dapper
[05:13] <caturOK> how to build bind9 at ubunti
[05:13] <MatthewV> dadgumit, you there?
[05:13] <hiffy> bruenig: it seems to have worked. Danke.
[05:13] <mitel> !info realbasic
[05:13] <ubotu> Package realbasic does not exist in dapper
[05:13] <tgarza> any word on why the system crashes after I browse the list of processes?
[05:14] <MatthewV> mitel, !info gives information on packages in dapper.... do you realise that?
[05:14] <ryan_naruto> my ubuntu doesnt recognize my usb stick when i plug it in... at first it did but when i ejected it and plugged it back in it cant detect it anymore what should i do...
[05:14] <MatthewV> Rikkimaru, what model sound card?
[05:14] <hiffy> !info mplayer
[05:14] <ubotu> mplayer: The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux. In repository multiverse, is extra. Version 2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 3265 kB, installed size 7916 kB
[05:14] <ardchoille> mitel: You can do a /query ubotu and search there :)
[05:14] <skavenge> can anyone help with NAT, both machines can ping each other and ics  is turned on in firestarter yet i cant get anywhere on  the second machine??
[05:14] <mitel> Ah, no wonder  was hoping it says if in respo
[05:14] <Rikkimaru> MatthewV:  Intel 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) HD Audio
[05:14] <mitel> thanks
[05:14] <dadgumit> MatthewV: sorry, had to step away for a moment, yes noapic nolapic is what worked for me (first try for once in my life :P)
[05:15] <VegaObscura> i know my monitor will go up to 1280x1024, can i get ubuntu to bring the workspace size up that high?
[05:15] <bruenig> hiffy, yeah i am configuring utorrent with the newest wine
[05:15] <sethk> VegaObscura, yes
[05:15] <ryan_naruto> my ubuntu doesnt recognize my usb stick when i plug it in... at first it did but when i ejected it and plugged it back in it cant detect it anymore what should i do...
[05:15] <VegaObscura> in screen resolution preferences, it only goes up to 1024x768
[05:15] <VegaObscura> how do i bring it up?
[05:15] <MatthewV> dadgumit, then do a sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst and add noapic nolapic to the end of the line you would usually edit :) should be first kernel entry
[05:15] <MatthewV> VegaObscura:
[05:15] <MatthewV> !resolution
[05:15] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:16] <dadgumit> MatthewV: Or whichever kernel I would like to boot correct? (I have actually found the 686 to be faster than the k7
[05:16] <sethk> VegaObscura, reconfigure X, and tell it that you have a monitor that can do 1280x1024 @ 70hz  (or whatever the hz it can do)
[05:16] <MatthewV> dadgumit, yeah, whichever kernel you normally boot
[05:17] <dadgumit> MatthewV: will this have any effects when i upgrade kernels etc?
[05:17] <dadgumit> MatthewV: (I have an upgrade notice for my kernel)
[05:18] <MatthewV> dadgumit, i think it will just mean that you will have to add those options to every new kernel that is installed... a bit tedious, but i don't think there is a better way.. might be though
[05:18] <dadgumit> MatthewV: it's better than modding the boot line every time I start my computer :)
[05:19] <MatthewV> dadgumit, yeah, good point, and now that dapper has been released, there shouldn't be many kernel upgrades
[05:19] <MatthewV> not like running it prerelease, kernel upgrade every week
[05:19] <dadgumit> Another question, I have seen screen shoots with people that have system monitoring uts (like hard drive space, memory usage, proc usage, etc... similar to yahoo widgets)
[05:20] <MatthewV> dadgumit, running where???? as in, where are these utilities placed? on the desktop?
[05:20] <dadgumit> yessir
[05:20] <hiffy> Hmm I forget the name of the gnome widgets, but in kde you do that with karamba widgets.
[05:20] <MatthewV> dadgumit, have a look at gdesklets
[05:21] <MatthewV> or karamba if on kde, as hiffy said
[05:21] <dadgumit> MatthewV: thanks, appreciate the help, you too hiffy
[05:21] <dadgumit> bed time for me, to do list has grown considerably since I sat down thanks again all
[05:21] <MatthewV> dadgumit, are you on gnome or kde?
[05:22] <MatthewV> dadgumit, no probs have fun :)
[05:22] <tgarza> I am new to ubuntu.  I need to find out how can I detect what is making my system freeze when I browse the processes list...It also happens when I start the open office apps...any advise
[05:23] <dadgumit> gnome
[05:23] <hiffy> tgarza: close any OO.o app
[05:23] <hiffy> open a terminal
[05:23] <dadgumit> MatthewV: Gnome, have been enjoying the simplicity
[05:23] <hiffy> type oowriter &
[05:23] <MatthewV> dadgumit, yeah, gdesklets is what you need then, or maybe gkrellm if thats still around...
[05:23] <hiffy> see what error msgs appear if any
[05:23] <MatthewV> dadgumit, yeah me too, but lets not start a kde vs gnome flame war :-)
[05:23] <hiffy> or just oowriter in your terminal. Then we might be able to give you more info
[05:23] <ardchoille> dadgumit: You might wanna look at gkrellm, I use it and I think it's great.
[05:24] <dadgumit> MatthewV: yeah, i am starting to figure out some people take thier interfaces seriously
[05:24] <dadgumit> :)
[05:24] <MatthewV> dadgumit, just use e17 and duck out of it :)
[05:25] <yUSiyEEE> has anyone experienced problem like this: can't open other input method in firefox?
[05:25] <dadgumit> !e17
[05:25] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[05:25] <AlienX> anyone know of any issues involving installing the sun java packages after already having the open source java installed? Apt or dpkg won't let me install sun-java5-jre or sun-java5-bin
[05:26] <hiffy> AlienX: they are non free (as in libre). You often have to agree to a EULA
[05:26] <hiffy> use synaptic, it didnt give me a hardtime for installing it
[05:26] <ringard|still_bi> what is the tool called that validates your smb.conf file?
[05:26] <AlienX> hiffy, that's not the issue, the package itself won't install. One sec, I'll post the output
[05:26] <Paladine> hmmm why can't I find my linux kernel headers in synaptic?
[05:26] <MatthewV> hiffy, you agree to a EULA when u use ubuntu too... its called the GPL
[05:27] <hiffy> MatthewV: This is true :P. But usually I don't have to click to agree using GPL packages on a GPL system
[05:27] <agro1986> question: does the ubuntu DVD contains more package than the ubuntu CD? what are some example packages worth mentioning?
[05:27] <snoop> i can't play streaming video with mplayer using the command line
[05:27] <AlienX> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb (--unpack):
[05:27] <AlienX>  subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[05:27] <MatthewV> agro1986, i think the dvd just includes both the desktop and alternate installs on the same disc
[05:28] <ardchoille> agro1986: iirc, the DVD contains installs for different archs, it doesn't contain more packages than the CD's.
[05:28] <hiffy> AlienX: hmm. Try redownloading it.
[05:28] <AlienX> hiffy, that's not the issue. It's been like this for months.
[05:28] <hiffy> AlienX: Reeaally. I installed it earlier today via synaptic; you on whatever animal combination the latest is?
[05:29] <hiffy> Dapper something?
[05:29] <snoop> i keep getting this message failed to load: avisynth.dll,
[05:29] <ardchoille> snoop: You using wine?
[05:29] <tgarza> hiffy: my system went freeze again...
[05:29] <snoop> archoi: how can i check? i am pretty sure i installed it
[05:29] <tgarza> when I type oowriter &
[05:30] <AlienX> hiffy, i'm using dapper. the package version is listed in my paste above. Do you have the open-source java installed as well?
[05:30] <hiffy> AlienX: aye, i think it comes default. GCJ if I recall
[05:30] <tgarza> sorry...when I typed "oowriter &"
[05:30] <tgarza> hiffy: any other piece of advise?
[05:30] <hiffy> AlienX: shamefully its not so good with interfaces using Swing, so I can't use it :P
[05:30] <AlienX> hiffy, I have blackdown installed which may be the issue
[05:30] <hiffy> tgarza: no error messages?
[05:31] <hiffy> AlienX: nope. You can have more than one jdk installed
[05:31] <raskolnikov> does anyone know how to remove the password prompt when you close your laptop lid on breezy?
[05:31] <tgarza> no error messages...where I can check them?
[05:31] <AlienX> hiffy, hmm, don't know why it wouldn't unpack then.
[05:31] <laxman> how do i change my net IP
[05:31] <paloyme> i need help on firefox... what addon do i use to bypass sites that require internet explorer
[05:31] <hiffy> AlienX: I can only imagine lack of disk space, or corrupt file. It shouldn't be a package conflict, not with that error msg
[05:31] <AlienX> hiffy, i've had the same issues since flight 5...just figured I'd ask again and see if anything new has come up
[05:31] <hiffy> AlienX: do try it via synaptic.
[05:32] <hiffy> Flight 5? (I just changed over today)
[05:32] <tgarza> hiffy. I have checked some logs and I can't find any related error message...
[05:32] <hiffy> Some of the ubuntu-isms are still lost on me, a filthy gentoo user
[05:32] <Ryugi> can ubuntu work with the wireless adapter for my dell laptop
[05:32] <hiffy> tgarza: Sorry mate, I haven't a clue without any error messages.
[05:32] <raskolnikov> how can you tell if someone is ssh'ed into you and what commands they've been running?
[05:32] <AlienX> hiffy, http://pastebin.ca/97860 is the full output.
[05:32] <AlienX> hiffy, flight 5 was dapper before it was stable
[05:32] <paloyme> what does lts in 6.06 lts mean?
[05:33] <tgarza> hiffy...I am going to try again...
[05:33] <Jimbo2006> Ryagi I'm on a wireless lappy now
[05:33] <jbroome> long term support
[05:33] <ardchoille> Long Term Support
[05:33] <Dasnipa`> long term support Paladine
[05:33] <hiffy> I'd suggest trying reinstalling it or trying it on a compy with more ram tgarza. Sorry.
[05:33] <paloyme> uhmmm what does long term support mean? why did they offer it only on 6.06?
[05:33] <hiffy> #
[05:33] <hiffy> sun-dlj-v1-1 license could not be presented
[05:33] <hiffy> #
[05:33] <hiffy> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/sun-java5-jre_1.5.0-06-1_all.deb (--unpack):
[05:33] <Ryugi> pk nice
[05:33] <hiffy> # subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 2
[05:34] <ardchoille> 3 years on the desktop, 5 years on the server
[05:34] <hiffy> thats, uh, your problem it seems.
[05:34] <lauri> #ubuntu-br joint
[05:34] <dustron> ardchoille: hi
[05:34] <dustron> dustron:
[05:34] <hiffy> paloyme: first version that they felt was good enough for long term support
[05:34] <Dasnipa`> Paladine, means that theyll be supporting it for 3 years (5 server) means that its a very stable release
[05:34] <AlienX> hiffy, yeah but i don't know what hte fix is/may be
[05:34] <paloyme> this means that on dapper, you are guaranteed support for 3 years
[05:34] <Jimbo2006> ardchoille: isn't your nick a scottish battle cry?
[05:34] <MatthewV> hiffy, you need to install thorugh synaptic so it can throw a license at you
[05:34] <lauri> Oi, Galera! Alguem pode me dizer se h um programa equivalente ao corel pra usar no linux?
[05:34] <hiffy> AlienX: I might sound annoying by now, but try have you tried snatic
[05:35] <oneseventeen> My latest attempt at exporting an audio file from Ardour resulted in 30 minutes of silence, any ideas?
[05:35] <hiffy> *synaptic
[05:35] <ardchoille> Jimbo2006: Aye, it is. Ard Choille! (To the high trees!)
[05:35] <AlienX> hiffy, yeah, synaptic tells me it won't install either
[05:35] <Jimbo2006> he!
[05:35] <majorTool> can anyone help a rookie setup Anjuta to build opengl code written in c? I seem to have some problem with my glut libs but after a few days of reading through help docs and forums I've gotten nowhere.
[05:35] <oneseventeen> (when it was a single channel 30 second test, it worked perfectly, only after I recorded my 30 minute podcast did it stop working)
[05:35] <hiffy> MatthewV: I present to you AlienX.
[05:35] <goatmale> !C
[05:35] <ubotu> I know nothing about C - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[05:35] <anon1872> i need help changing the settings so that i wont get a password everytime i shut my laptops lid
[05:35] <anon1872> can anyone help?
[05:35] <paloyme> can anybody help me with firefox? cant seem to browse a site that requires ie
[05:35] <MatthewV> hiffy, yeah, i knew it was someone else, just didn't know who :)
[05:35] <dustron> is there a way to import bookmarks from mozilla in windows to ubuntu?
[05:35] <hiffy> heh :)
[05:35] <_marshall> hey guys
[05:36] <_marshall> my firefox crashes on me all the time
[05:36] <Leafw> bug in metacity: when calling toFront() form java, windows get activated but do not make it to the front. Any known solution ?
[05:36] <lauri> Hi folks, doesn anyone know if there is a program like coreldraw to work in linux?
[05:36] <hiffy> _marshall: make a new profile. (run from terminal using firefox -p )
[05:36] <Leafw> lauri : try inkscape and gimp, that's the best there is
[05:36] <GaiaX11> Now how do I change that horrible kubuntu blue boot initialising system?
[05:36] <ryan_naruto> help ive restarted my system my ubuntu can still recognize my usb drive
[05:36] <HellDragon> is there a way to make .m4u files work ?? (winamp music files)
[05:36] <HellDragon> under Dapper*
[05:36] <MatthewV> anon1872, maybe change the screensaver options (System --> Preferences --> Screensaver) so the screen isn't locked when going on screensaver, or change the options Power Management
[05:37] <Leafw> !ubotu mp3
[05:37] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:37] <goatmale> helldragon yes
[05:37] <_marshall> hiffy: ok, what does that do?
[05:37] <yahn> can anyone tell me where I could find a irc room where I could find some help with bind?
[05:37] <Leafw> yahn : try ##freebsd
[05:37] <hiffy> _marshall: runs firefox's profile manager. Lets you create a new one.
[05:37] <HellDragon> m4u != mp3
[05:37] <goatmale> #bind?
[05:37] <anon1872> i'm on breezy MatthewV
[05:37] <yahn> leafw thank you
[05:37] <anon1872> as you can imagine i've heard that quite a few times
[05:37] <_marshall> hiffy: does having a new profile stop the crashes?
[05:37] <hiffy> Usually if firefox crashes its cos of an extension or faulty setting, _marshall. Failing that downgrade or upgrade your ff version
[05:37] <MatthewV> anon1872, i think those options are there in breezy too
[05:37] <Leafw> yahn : most network-knowledgeable guys in the entire irc.
[05:37] <anon1872> nope
[05:38] <anon1872> power management isnt there
[05:38] <MatthewV> anon1872, or are yo uin kde?
[05:38] <_marshall> hiffy: ohh
[05:38] <anon1872> gnome
[05:38] <_marshall> hiffy: would it be the same if i just uninstalled extensions?
[05:38] <lauri> I need a progra to use in Linux tuat substitute CorelDraw. does anyone know anything about that?
[05:38] <agro1986> ...
[05:38] <MatthewV> anon1872, oh ok.... not sure then
[05:38] <hiffy> _marshall: no idea. New profile = easy and recomendable.
[05:38] <_marshall> hiffy: lol ok
[05:38] <ryan_naruto> help ive restarted my system my ubuntu can still recognize my usb drive
[05:38] <hiffy> _marshall: at worse you copy over your bookmarks and history file
[05:38] <mrbigstuff> anywho knows how to install java?
[05:39] <GaiaX11> When I boot the system, a blue horrible kubuntu process booting runs. I'd like to change that. So, how do I do it?
[05:39] <ardchoille> !java
[05:39] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:39] <anon1872> i want to remove the password completely so i dont have to type it in everytime i close the lid
[05:39] <anon1872> and make it hibernate when i close it instead
[05:39] <anon1872> i've done it before i just cant remember how
[05:39] <lauri> help, I need help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:39] <bimberi> !java
[05:39] <ubotu> java is an object oriented programming language. To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[05:39] <anon1872> and i'm getting no where on the boards
[05:41] <MTecknology> Does anybody in here know of a good PS2 emulator for windows, or one in developement I could use?
[05:41] <Dial_tone> man, a lot of sites are moving to flash 9 in a hurry. this is going to be a problem
[05:41] <majorTool> anybody know if there is a programmers channel where I could find some help with opengl and glut?
[05:41] <lauri> is there any program like CORELDRAW to work in LINUX?
[05:42] <kyncani> lauri: gimp ?
[05:42] <Jimbo2006> lauri: your question was answered b4. For vector grafix, Inkscape
[05:43] <goatmale> !ubuntu
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[05:43] <goatmale> !irc
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[05:43] <goatmale> -_-
[05:43] <goatmale> !offtopic
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[05:44] <Ackeubu_> hey my gnome is scr3wed up.. i dont get a frame for my windows. would it be the window manager that is broken?
[05:44] <lauri> Jimbo2006. thanks a lot.
[05:44] <ardchoille> Ackeubu_: That sounds like a window manager (Metacity) problem
[05:46] <snoop> what happens when you get this error message, how do you fix it
[05:46] <snoop> Cache fill: 0.20% (1068 bytes)
[05:46] <snoop> Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll, /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll
[05:47] <snoop> this error message is coming from mplayer when i try to stream live video from the command line
[05:47] <rr72> is anyine getting a signal 11 on kdm or is it just me?