[03:11] <hdz> its wierd one command even enabled it maybe i should try it on the main usb bus instead of the redirected ohci pci usb bus
[03:11] <shutterbc> Hektik_Ninja, did you read this thread? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=41709
[03:11] <devilsadvocate> how many lines of output?
[03:11] <Jrabbit> KeithC: Get the linux and the ME
[03:11] <hdz> 961
[03:11] <Jrabbit> KeithC: Not shure if the provided linux one will work
[03:11] <suzumiya> devilsadvocate, it retured kernel ip routing, a title line, and a info line, so 3
[03:11] <xtknight> lgc: is there anything in particular that seems slow, or would you just like a lower latency system?
[03:11] <suzumiya> but only one with info
[03:11] <shutterbc> xixor: um... actually you have to unload it first
[03:11] <lgc> xtknight, the load should suffice to make it go faster, like when I run a number-crunching program.
[03:12] <devilsadvocate> hdz, i doubt i'll be able to get ou through this. google for "model number ubuntu edgy"
[03:12] <KeithC> Jrabbit:  crap they dont got ME drivers for the wireless
[03:12] <devilsadvocate> suzumiya, ok. you have to add a route
[03:12] <hdz> its in the post
[03:12] <hdz> arg
[03:12] <Jrabbit> KeithC: Get the Linux ones then
[03:12] <shutterbc> xixor: syntax is "modprobe -r"
[03:12] <xtknight> lgc: are you talking about a CPU that scales frequency?
[03:12] <suzumiya> devilsadvocate, how do i do that
[03:12] <lgc> xtknight, indeed.
[03:12] <KeithC> not htere. they say they have them but then they dont list any drivers for wireless. im checking win 2000 now.
[03:12] <xtknight> lgc: well that is a different matter :)
[03:13] <devilsadvocate> suzumiya, "route  add default gw <gateway>  net <netmask> eth0
[03:13] <devilsadvocate> "
[03:13] <hdz> *-usbhost
[03:13] <hdz>                 product: EHCI Host Controller
[03:13] <hdz>                 vendor: Linux 2.6.17-10-generic ehci_hcd
[03:13] <hdz>                 physical id: 1
[03:13] <hdz>                 bus info: usb@2
[03:13] <hdz>                 logical name: usb2
[03:13] <hdz>                 version: 2.06
[03:13] <hdz>                 capabilities: usb-2.00
[03:13] <xtknight> !pastebin | hdz
[03:13] <ubotu> hdz: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:13] <hdz>                 configuration: driver=hub maxpower=0mA slots=5 speed=480.0MB/s
[03:13] <hdz>               *-usb UNCLAIMED
[03:13] <hdz>                    description: Communication device
[03:13] <hdz>                    product: Linksys Wireless-G USB Network Adapter with SpeedBooster
[03:13] <hdz>                    vendor: Cisco-Linksys
[03:13] <hdz>                    physical id: 2
[03:13] <hdz>                    bus info: usb@2:2
[03:13] <shutterbc> oh geez
[03:13] <Pooky> O.o
[03:13] <hdz>                    version: 0.06
[03:13] <Flannel> !paste | hdz
[03:13] <hdz>                    serial: 1111
[03:13] <hdz>                    capabilities: usb-2.00
[03:13] <aeromix> hi.. I deleted /etc/mysql/my.cnf.. could someone pastebin it for me?:) I guess it was not a good idea:))
[03:13] <hdz> sorry
[03:13] <xtknight> lgc: i am not completely sure on how to do it.  Core Duo CPU, or Core 2 Duo ?
[03:14] <devilsadvocate> suzumiya, any luck?
[03:14] <shutterbc> no worries
[03:14] <hdz> tell me to pastebin and you're askin me questions that are righ there man
[03:14] <KeithC> Jrabbit:  good im getting what i think are the right drivers for win 2000.  Dell True Mobile 5100 GPRS PC Card
[03:14] <xixor> shutterbc: not sure how to unload modules.. I tried a sudo modprobe -r ipw3945, but get a file not found error on a ipw3945-generic file
[03:14] <Jrabbit> KeithC: Ok
[03:14] <xtknight> aeromix: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4201/
[03:14] <hdz> product: Linksys Wireless-G USB Network Adapter with SpeedBooster
[03:14] <suzumiya> devils advocate, do i place the actually gateway and such in the line
[03:14] <lgc> xtknight, single-core.
[03:14] <devilsadvocate> suzumiya, yeah :P
[03:14] <hdz> vendor: Cisco-Linksys
[03:14] <xtknight> lgc: do you know if you're using the performance governor or the userspace governor?
[03:14] <suzumiya> devilsadvocate: in carets <>?
[03:14] <lgc> xtknight, no.
[03:14] <daviey> Hi, anybody here using a non-usb bluetooth device???
[03:14] <devilsadvocate> suzumiya, no
[03:14] <aeromix> xtknight: thank you!
[03:14] <hdz> configuration: driver=hub maxpower=0mA slots=5 speed=480.0MB/s
[03:14] <hdz> there
[03:14] <devilsadvocate> no carets
[03:15] <hdz> i gave ya the info devil
[03:15] <xtknight> lgc: i'm afraid this is all i can do: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=linux+frequency+scaling&btnG=Google+Search
[03:15] <suzumiya> devilsadvocate, lemme try, hold on a minute
[03:15] <devilsadvocate> hdz, dmesg tells you what the kernel did when it found your hardware. but still, your card might have its own issues. google is your friend
[03:15] <shutterbc> xixor: um... hm.  I'm not sure on this one.  (I think I rebooted instead of learning the right way)
[03:16] <xixor> shutterbc: ha, I was thinking the same thing
[03:16] <shutterbc> xixor, I'd play around except I'm kinda using the wireless right now :)
[03:16] <jackbod> i wanted to apply a patch to one of the source packages, I did that, but donno how to build a binary package out of that. any pointers ?
[03:16] <xixor> shutterbc: ok, will give a reboot, will let you know how it goes, thanks for the help, eh!  ha ha, yeah, understand
[03:16] <devilsadvocate> suzumiya, also type "route" once to make sure its in properly
[03:16] <hdz> its not the appliance
[03:16] <shutterbc> good luck
[03:17] <hdz> it shows everything it is and i'm using it now in windows
[03:17] <lgc> xtknight, I'm looking at it, thanks!
[03:17] <suzumiya> i tried and it popped up with a list on usage, then i tried doing soley gateway nad it said network is unreachable
[03:17] <hdz> i get different results using sudo so maybe, damn where's that dood at
[03:18] <devilsadvocate> suzumiya, one sec
[03:18] <hdz> product: Linksys Wireless-G USB Network Adapter with SpeedBooster
[03:18] <hdz>                    vendor: Cisco-Linksys
[03:18] <devilsadvocate> hdz, www.google.com
[03:19] <devilsadvocate> put the same thing in there
[03:19] <hdz> and that's connected by my pci2.0 *-usbhost
[03:19] <hdz>                 product: EHCI Host Controller
[03:19] <hdz>                 vendor: Linux 2.6.17-10-generic ehci_hcd
[03:19] <ben_> help please
[03:19] <xtknight> ben_: what's up?
[03:19] <ben_> wats hte command  wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[03:19] <devilsadvocate> suzumiya, "route add default gw <gateway>" any good?
[03:19] <ben_> do?
[03:20] <kitche> ben_: downloads the key and adds it to apt
[03:20] <xtknight> ben_: it adds a security key to a database.  this security key is used to make sure you're getting a download from only that place.  it's an authorization thing
[03:20] <suzumiya> devilsadvocat, no it just says SIOCADDRT: Network is unreachable
[03:20] <hdz> i went to the wireless driver page it's listed there
[03:20] <ben_> kk
[03:20] <ben_> thanks so much
[03:20] <hdz> yeah i get the same thing suzumiya
[03:20] <ben_> (first time to linux ^^)
[03:20] <hdz> ifup -a
[03:21] <hdz> i feel like a black sheep
[03:21] <devilsadvocate> suzumiya, no clue. I'd search the forums.
[03:21] <suzumiya> thanks anyway
[03:21] <devilsadvocate> suzumiya, everything is configured and should work
[03:21] <suzumiya> ill try a restoring some files and going from there
[03:21] <suzumiya> alright
[03:21] <suzumiya> ill try to talk to my old mentor about it. thanks a lot
[03:22] <shutterbc> Stupid question: how do I find out what version of alsa-source I have?
[03:22] <hdz> devil would NEC corp for usb 1.1 be messed up cuz it's lookin there for usb linksys when usb linksys is on OHCI PCI USB 2.0 CARD
[03:22] <hdz> like i know this is not hard to figure out, besides me
[03:23] <xtknight> hdz: could you repeat your original problem ?
[03:23] <hdz> driver=ohci_hcd it still relays it to that bus anyway
[03:23] <tanubis> anyone familiar with setting up vsftpd?  I've got it running and listening for anonymous connections, just trying to find out how to tell it I want to have it start serving files from a given directory to anonymous users.
[03:23] <hdz> im tryin to get my linksys usb wireless workin through my pci2.0 card
[03:24] <hdz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4195/
[03:24] <tanubis> right now it lets you connect but it's to an empty directory somewhere
[03:24] <hdz> ive done every command possible its all listed there
[03:24] <hdz> i just need to know what step i need to take next
[03:24] <ben_> can sumone repost that page?
[03:24] <ben_> woops wrong chat
[03:24] <ben_> srry
[03:24] <FireHazard17> its ok
[03:24] <xixor> shutterbc: So, I think its working now.. ps -ef | grep ipw shows the driver listed, I can view the status file in /sys/bus, and now there is an eth1 showing in iwconfig (eth0 is my ehternet card)
[03:24] <xtknight> hdz: does eth1 exist?
[03:25] <FireHazard17> yes
[03:25] <FireHazard17> nvm
[03:25] <hdz> that's the last command i did, i never saw eth1 til i sudo'd that command
[03:25] <mikeo1> anyone know why tvtime gives me no signal?
[03:25] <xtknight> hdz: or is the kernel module getting loaded for your card?
[03:25] <mikeo1> it worked the other day
[03:25] <xixor> shutterbc: the next thing is to figure out how to use wep :)
[03:25] <mikeo1> and i know it has a signal
[03:25] <shutterbc> xixor, iwconfig shows a wireless card?  whee!
[03:25] <hdz> ath0 never showed up until ifup -a either
[03:25] <mikeo1> v4l-conf gives errors
[03:25] <mikeo1> X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode
[03:25] <shutterbc> xixor, I'm trying to mess with wep next as well.  apparently the real cool stuff is going into feisty (connection manager)
[03:26] <xtknight> hdz: looks to me like no driver is loaded (see under configuration=)  for Linksys Wireless-G USB Network Adapter with SpeedBooster
[03:26] <xixor> shutterbc: I think so, and when I did an iwconfig eth1 essid "accessname", my wifi light started blinking
[03:26] <hdz> it doesn't show in network admin to begin with
[03:26] <hdz> but in every command it's there on the ohci bus
[03:26] <xixor> shutterbc: I don't have a desktop environment installed yet, kubuntu-desktop has an estimated 2 hours left to download
[03:26] <xtknight> hdz: the device is being detected.  but a kernel module has not been loaded for it
[03:26] <hdz> xtknight look at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4195/ for a few seconds you'd know what to do next
[03:27] <hdz> so what do i do
[03:27] <xixor> shutterbc: I have always had trouble getting wep to work under linux though, I've never had any luck I think, so I always run an open access point
[03:27] <hdz> this thing is being like hardware routed
[03:27] <xtknight> hdz: yeah ive been looking at it.  have you tried modprobe and the driver you need for that adapter?
[03:27] <hdz> i dunno if i should put it to regular 1.1 usb so it doesn't have to go through all this
 joking
[03:27] <shutterbc> I need to set up a test wep network somewhere so I can start hacking around on it
[03:27] <xtknight> it shouldnt really mater
[03:27] <hdz> the driver is cisco
[03:28] <xtknight> hdz: so 'sudo modprobe cisco'  what happens?
[03:28] <hdz> the bus is controlled by ohci_usc
[03:28] <hdz> never tried that but i have output of it knowing that it's linksys with vendor cisco
[03:28] <hdz> should i reboot and try modprobe?
[03:28] <xtknight> hdz: hold your horses :P
[03:28] <xtknight> i just need the name of the kernel module name for your card
[03:29] <kitche> hdz: well cisco is linksys ssame company
[03:29] <hdz> for the pci card 2.0?
[03:29] <mikeo1> hmmm Load "v4l" wasn't in the module section
[03:30] <arrenlex> If I have an aunt, and I have a child, what would that child be to my aunt?
[03:30] <hdz> this breaks down from a tree from usb1.1 to the card to linksys and its crazy
[03:30] <ben_> what is ubuntu
[03:30] <ben_> edgy
[03:30] <ben_> or dapper
[03:30] <ben_> ?
[03:30] <bruenig> !ubuntu
[03:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[03:30] <xtknight> dapper is one version and edgy is a newer one
[03:30] <Simpleton> I can't wait to reinstall
[03:31] <ben_> i just got this one
[03:31] <ben_> lol
[03:31] <ben_> yesterday
[03:31] <hdz> you want the pci 2.0 card, or the linksys module name
[03:31] <ben_> so prolly edgy?
[03:31] <xtknight> hdz: linksys
[03:31] <Simpleton> your on it right now?
[03:31] <hdz> or, okay holdon
[03:31] <ben_> yes
[03:31] <Simpleton> then check what version it is
[03:31] <ben_> how?
[03:31] <Simpleton> uname -r
[03:31] <xtknight> ben_:  lsb_release -a
[03:31] <ben_> in terminal?
[03:31] <xtknight> yes
[03:31] <Simpleton> do what he said
[03:32] <ben_> edgy =)
[03:32] <Simpleton> I have been linux deprived for almost 4 months due to a failed harddrive and lack of time and cash, but i shall soon be back
[03:32] <hdz> xtknight what command would that show up on
[03:32] <hdz> i dont wanna give you the wrong info
[03:32] <xtknight> hdz: i need the output of `sudo lspci -vv` on pastebin (your original cmd did not include the sudo)
[03:32] <hdz> okay its on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4195/
[03:33] <xtknight> SUDO lspci -vv
[03:33] <xixor> shutterbc: you were mentioning a connection manager, called, feisty?  this is a gnome or kde application?  Or ubuntu specific?
[03:33] <xtknight> hdz:  the lspci -vv on there is incomplete because it was executed without sudo
[03:34] <daviey> Hi, anybody here using a non-usb bluetooth adapter????
[03:34] <mneptok> xixor: Feisty is the code name of the next release.
[03:34] <xixor> ahh, ok
[03:34] <hdz> see you're smart i said that to devilsadvocate
[03:34] <hdz> i gotta go back and do that?
[03:34] <xtknight> ??
[03:35] <hdz> the sudo
[03:35] <mneptok> xixor: are you looking for wireless network scanning?
[03:35] <xtknight> sudo lspci -vv
[03:35] <hdz> sudo lspci -vv
[03:35] <lgc> xtknight, It did the trick!
[03:35] <xtknight> yeah i need the output
[03:35] <hdz> can i su root
[03:35] <hdz> so everything is complete
[03:35] <bruenig> hdz, no
[03:35] <bruenig> !sudo | hdz
[03:35] <ubotu> hdz: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:35] <xtknight> just type `sudo -i` to get permanent root for a while
[03:35] <mneptok> hdz: you can, but it's not recommended
[03:35] <hdz> i'll just sudo everything then
[03:35] <hdz> alright
[03:35] <xtknight> yeah, just sudo everythiing its really the best
[03:35] <hdz> xtknight i'll be back in 5 min
[03:36] <xixor> mneptok: Not yet, just trying to get wep working for my wifi card right now.. tried iwconfig eth1 essid "name" key #####, but that didn't seem to work
[03:36] <moyofalaye> msg nickserv register <windows>
[03:36] <hdz> no i was being sarcastic :)
[03:36] <lgc> xtknight, do you happen to know how to rev up the fan? It's starting to smell funny here...:)
[03:36] <xtknight> then when you create/move files it wont randomly be owned by root
[03:36] <shutterbc> xixor, now I'm having trouble finding the post :)
[03:36] <xtknight> lgc: i dont know.  i also have a controllable fan and ive been trying for ages to figure out how
[03:36] <bruenig> moyofalaye, better pick a different one
[03:36] <xixor> shutterbc: Post?
[03:36] <mneptok> xixor: WEP connections con be cofigured via the GNOME networking GUI
[03:36] <TTT_Travis> whats the keyboard command to switch to the terminal screen when in X?
[03:36] <hdz> xtknight you think you'll be here a bit longer so i can post that, and anything else i should do a command on?
[03:36] <TTT_Travis> while logging into X it froze and now it's stuck
[03:36] <mneptok> (sadly, WPA cannot)
[03:37] <bruenig> TTT_Travis, alt + f 1-6
[03:37] <xtknight> hdz: that's enough for now..
[03:37] <lgc> xtknight, oh, well, it seems the fan's "overdrive" just kicked in...
[03:37] <bruenig> f 2-6
[03:37] <hdz> okay i'll bb dont go :) thanks so far
[03:37] <hdz> brb
[03:37] <bruenig> oh wayt
[03:37] <moyofalaye>      /msg nickserv set hide email on
[03:37] <shutterbc> xixor: I was reading about a connection manager in progress that handles wpa, roaming... some other features
[03:37] <bruenig> TTT_Travis, ctrl + alt + f2
[03:37] <TTT_Travis> k
[03:37] <TTT_Travis> is there a way to use the old non-gui installer
[03:37] <TTT_Travis> instead of gui installer?
[03:37] <bruenig> !alternate
[03:37] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[03:37] <xtknight> !alternate | TTT_Travis
[03:37] <ubotu> TTT_Travis: please see above
[03:38] <xtknight> ooh
[03:38] <xtknight> ubotu is sophisticated
[03:38] <bruenig> oh cool ubotu has a new trick
[03:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is sophisticated - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:38] <xtknight> hehe
[03:38] <TTT_Travis> oh, need seperate cd
[03:38] <TTT_Travis> ;(
[03:38] <xtknight> lol
[03:38] <mneptok> shutterbc: it's not in progress. sudo aptitude install network-manager-gnome
[03:39] <xixor> shutterbc: that sounds good, I haven't seen a good linux application that did that yet
[03:39] <shutterbc> mneptok, I already have that installed... I was thinking about something else (I think).  Or am I mistaken and network-manager has WPA options?
[03:39] <mneptok> n-m-g does WPA
[03:39] <xixor> shutterbc: I always just end up having a variety of scripts to launch different iwconfig arguments to start the wireless depending on where I am
[03:41] <xixor> so, is ubuntu similar to debian, where a lot of people run "unstable" ?
[03:41] <xixor> this would be fiesty I take it
[03:41] <moyofalaye> Good day people
[03:41] <xtknight> xixor: edgy is unstable in debian terms
[03:42] <TTT_Travis> when is edgy  coming out?
[03:42] <ewood> How do I get my refresh rate above 60 Hz? I knew how to fix it in Fedora, but not in Ubuntu..
[03:42] <mneptok> only developers and other fools run Feisty
[03:42] <shutterbc> xixor: in short, yes
[03:42] <xixor> xtknight: Oh really? I thought edgy was the latest "stable"?
[03:42] <xtknight> feisty is more like experimental
[03:42] <maddog39> TTT_Travis: Edgy has been out for ages...
[03:42] <xtknight> cat /etc/debian_version  on Edgy returns testing/unstable
[03:42] <astrobit> does anybody know how could i change the refresh rate for my screen resolution? its set to 80 Hz and it should be 60 Hz... but theres no way to graphically change it...any ideas?
[03:42] <TTT_Travis> WHAT^
[03:42] <maddog39> yes,
[03:42] <maddog39> you mean feisty?
[03:42] <TTT_Travis> so dapper isn't the most stable?
[03:42] <xtknight> dapper is stable
[03:42] <riotkittie> TTT_Travis: do you mean feisty?
[03:42] <moyofalaye> Please i cant get my settings to save in any application
[03:42] <xtknight> edgy is unstable
[03:42] <maddog39> thats the upcoming release
[03:42] <xixor> 6.10 = edgy correct?
[03:42] <shutterbc> Ages being since October... yeah
[03:42] <xtknight> feisty is experimental
[03:42] <maddog39> yes
[03:42] <maddog39> 6.10 = edgy
[03:42] <xixor> ah, ok
[03:42] <TTT_Travis> Dapper is the latest stable correct?
[03:43] <xtknight> TTT_Travis: correct
[03:43] <maddog39> nope
[03:43] <daviey> I need to install windows XP on an exsisting Linux HD; obv, i will need a partition.  How will i stop xp messing up my Linux system??
[03:43] <TTT_Travis> k
[03:43] <maddog39> thats the old stable
[03:43] <xtknight> in strict terms
[03:43] <xtknight> yes.
[03:43] <TTT_Travis> whats coming out next to replace Dapper and when?
[03:43] <xtknight> it's the only one with long term support also
[03:43] <shutterbc> Well supposedly Dapper is "more stable" as it's the Long Term Support version
[03:43] <xixor> sorry, I thought 6.10 was the last stable major release, so 6.10 is the next release candidate for the new stable release every 6 months?
[03:43] <xtknight> only one out of dapper and edgy at least
[03:43] <danielc> can anyone help me on booting ubuntu, just to test it?
[03:43] <danielc> not actually installing any files
[03:43] <xtknight> well 6.10 is stable in ubuntu terms, not in more broad debian terms
[03:43] <maddog39> 6.06 is the older stable version, 6.10 is the current, and 7.04 (feisty) is testing/upcoming
[03:43] <daviey> danielc, download the cd, burn and reboot
[03:44] <xtknight> and you said debian equiv...so
[03:44] <danielc> when i reboot...do i choose "start or install ubuntu"'?
[03:44] <mneptok> there is no "stable." there is "released," "development," and "long term support." right now those are Edgy, Feisty, and Dapper, respectively.
[03:44] <xixor> yes yes, I think in terms of debian :)
[03:44] <ewood> danielc: The latest Ubuntu release is a live/install CD, so that shouldn't be difficult.
[03:44] <xtknight> sarge is like that old guy that just never tripped and fell.  dapper is analogous to that ;)
[03:44] <danielc> i just choose "start or install ubuntu" and it loads, then i can restart and take the cd out and have it be normal XP again?
[03:44] <daviey> danielc, install (providing it's the desktop edition)
[03:44] <riotkittie> daviey: manually create a partition for XP. you'll be fine, but will need to reinstall GRUB
[03:44] <ewood> danielc: I believe live is the default option for it..
[03:44] <xixor> so, ubuntu uses a 6 month release cycle right?
[03:45] <xtknight> uh
[03:45] <ReK_> ok, so the linux-headers-(uname -r) arent enough, i need the full kernel source, where can i get that from?
[03:45] <xtknight> i dont know
[03:45] <xtknight> ReK_: that is the linux source code
[03:45] <daviey> riotkittie, how do i reinstall grub (remembering what boot options i currently have)?
[03:45] <shutterbc> danielc, just make sure your BIOS actually knows to boot off CD.  Otherwise yes.
[03:45] <vox754> Why are people still wondering if 6.10 is stable? It must be stable in order to be released.
[03:45] <danielc> ok, thank you
[03:45] <ReK_> well the makefile still tells me that sdtio.h doesnt exist -.-
[03:45] <danielc> i will go try it out now
[03:45] <riotkittie> !grub | daviey
[03:45] <mneptok> daviey: correct. The "start or install" option runs the live session. you can choose to install from there or not. and when you reboot it's back to your default OS>
[03:45] <ubotu> daviey: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:46] <xtknight> ReK_: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:46] <shutterbc> "stable" is a relative term.
[03:46] <xixor> vox754: I was wondering because I am new to the ubuntu world..
[03:46] <ReK_> thanks
[03:46] <ewood> 6.10 is stable for me, though it's not properly handling headphone detection on my Power Mac.
[03:46] <daviey> vox754, feisty herd 3 is released; is that stable????
[03:46] <xtknight> vox754: because definitions vary
[03:46] <ewood> If I plug speakers in, I get sound from the internal speaker. Without speakers, nothing.
[03:46] <daviey> mneptok, i know; i told the guy
[03:46] <shutterbc> 6.10 is stable for me except a December update blew out my alsa!
[03:46] <xtknight> 6.06 actually detects HW better than 6.10 for me.
[03:46] <mneptok> daviey: nothing with Feisty it the name is in the least bit stable.
[03:46] <GMachine_24> How do I find all the ".Trash" folders on my computer. Is the one in the /home/xxxx   (where xxxx is the name of my directory) the only one on the computer?
[03:46] <moyofalaye> Please i need quick help How do i get my apps to be able to save there configs
[03:46] <shutterbc> so now I'm stuck with no sound at boot until I switch everything over to OSS.  (not fun)
[03:46] <xtknight> GMachine_24: locate .trash
[03:47] <daviey> mneptok, but on April the 19th it will be stable
[03:47] <ReK_> xtknight: where would that be in packages.ubuntu.com?
[03:47] <vox754> daviey: Are you kidding? It's obviously being tested.
[03:47] <xtknight> GMachine_24: yes there's only a .trash in home dirs like root or /home/xxx
[03:47] <vox754> xtknight: Are you kidding? It's obviously being tested.
[03:47] <daviey> vox754, but the ISO is released!!!!
[03:47] <mneptok> daviey: if all goes well, yes.
[03:47] <xtknight> ReK_: i thikn stdio is in libc6-dev maybe
[03:47] <xtknight> ReK_: search for 'stdio.h' in ubuntu packages
[03:47] <shutterbc> ewood, what audio chipset are you using?
[03:47] <ReK_> ah, its the libs i need, thanks
[03:47] <daviey> mneptok, so wtf are you talking about the name sounding unstable for?
[03:47] <mneptok> GMachine_24: open your home dir in Nautilus and hit ctl-h
[03:47] <rio> server
[03:47] <ewood> shutterbc: I'll check it
[03:47] <encrypt> hello, can anyone recommend any good vnc software?
[03:48] <xtknight> vox754: what is being tested?
[03:48] <ewood> shutterbc: PowerMac Tumbler
[03:48] <daviey> encrypt, internally or over the net?
[03:48] <ivx> hey, how can i change that little loading graphic that pops up after i type my username and passowrd? i woudl like to make is match my theme
[03:48] <encrypt> over the net
[03:48] <mneptok> daviey: i said "nothing with Feisty in the name is stable." and that's true. Feisty is not stable.
[03:48] <encrypt> daviey, want to show a friend my beryl setup
[03:48] <GMachine_24> xtknight: thank you. I accidentally removed the link/icon for the trash folder from the toolbar on my desktop. can I add it back?
[03:48] <daviey> encrypt, share a desktop or a fresh one?
[03:48] <encrypt> daviey, he's on windows
[03:48] <shutterbc> ewood, do you know if the alsa guys have any bugs logged on it?
[03:48] <xixor> encrypt: I have been using FreeNX to remotely administer my home linux server, its like vnc, but is compressed for use over the net
[03:48] <encrypt> daviey, either works
[03:48] <ewood> shutterbc: I do not.
[03:48] <daviey> encrypt, beryl won't work well over the net
[03:48] <xtknight> GMachine_24: umm perhaps.
[03:49] <vox754> xtknight: The next Ubuntu 7.04.
[03:49] <encrypt> daviey, oh
[03:49] <xtknight> GMachine_24: just add it to the panel
[03:49] <shutterbc> ewood, Edgy uses alsa 1.0.12 so there might be updates in 1.0.13
[03:49] <ivx> is this working? can you gusy see my text?
[03:49] <xtknight> vox754: yes..it is being tested
[03:49] <Curtman> I put Ubuntu on my dad's PC..  Every couple of days he phones me to tell me that all he see's when he boots up is a black screen.  When I log in it looks like Ubuntu is starting X without gdm, and preventing gdm from loading.  I kill X, and start gdm and it works fine.
[03:49] <shutterbc> which I'd install if I knew more of the implications of compiling it in Ubuntu.
[03:49] <daviey> mneptok, what do you mean "nothing with Feisty in the name is stable"; doesn't make sense!!
[03:49] <Curtman> Anyone know what that problem is caused by?
[03:49] <mneptok> GMachine_24: run gconf-editor, edit the apps/Nautilus settings to put the trash on the dektop, copy from desktop to panel
[03:49] <GMachine_24> mneptok: thank you as well
[03:49] <ewood> shutterbc: Do automatic updates take care of that?
[03:49] <encrypt> daviey, well, it's okay.. i just wanted to smack beryl in my friend's face (he has been bragging about how well aero runs on his computer)
[03:49] <ivx> hey, how can i change that little loading graphic that pops up after i type my username and passowrd? i woudl like to make is match my theme
[03:49] <whileiwasgone> What is the point of the helix player? I cant get anything to play with it including .rm files but VLC does almore everything.
[03:50] <shutterbc> ewood, probably not
[03:50] <daviey> encrypt, if you want to show of beryl there are some good youtube videos
[03:50] <xtknight> if hdz comes in here tell him i'm rebooting
[03:50] <encrypt> daviey, yes i just wanted him to fool around with it
[03:50] <ewood> shutterbc: Do you know whether Fedora Core 6 uses the newer Alsa?
[03:50] <encrypt> daviey, get a feel for what it is
[03:50] <shutterbc> ewood: no clue.  Though probably.
[03:50] <moyofalaye> PLease i cant get my apps to save there configs
[03:51] <bruenig> moyofalaye, what apps
[03:51] <ewood> shutterbc: I'll be digging through the alsa bug site and see what turns up.
[03:51] <AMAG> Hello again, #ubuntu.  I've been having install difficulties for a couple of days and I would like some help with GRUB, which I've never used before.
[03:51] <mneptok> daviey: i mean exactly that. if you have an ISO called foisty-herd3-i386.iso it *is not stable* because nothing taht has "feisty" in its name is stable right now
[03:51] <bruenig> !grub
[03:51] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:51] <daviey> mneptok, still doesn't make sense.  Is ENG your first language?
[03:51] <AMAG> Indeed, I've read the info pages but I'm not sure I'm using it correctly.  I'll summarize my situation
[03:51] <xtknight> daviey: why doesn't it make sense?
[03:51] <encrypt> oh well, thanks all
[03:51] <ivx> Amag what is your problem
[03:51] <MrSatanic> What are some fun things I can do with Ubuntu?
[03:51] <shutterbc> daviey, I think he just means that for dev / release purposes it isn't considered "stable"... even if some packages are unchanged.
[03:51] <xtknight> daviey: if "feisty" is in the file name and you download is before the official release of feisty, it is NOT stable
[03:51] <moyofalaye> Thank you apps like Nvidia settings, spbackup
[03:52] <moyofalaye> even Azureus
[03:52] <xtknight> MrSatanic: penguin racer
[03:52] <daviey> xtknight, that makes sense
[03:52] <mneptok> daviey: i don't speak ENG. but English, yes. been a native speaker for the past 42 years.
[03:52] <moyofalaye> Even azureus wont update cause it cant write to the update folder
[03:52] <MrSatanic> Penguin racer?
[03:52] <daviey> mneptok, so you do speak ENG, pratt
[03:52] <ewood> Man, staring at 60 Hz really hurts my eyes...
[03:52] <ivx> are there any free games that are good, like 3rd person shooters or anything
[03:52] <AMAG> I have a 3ware 9650SX RAID adapter which isn't supported by the kernel in the ubuntu 6.10 install discs, so I've made a CD with a working driver, loaded it, and installed the base system, kernel source tree, gcc while still being booted from the install disc
[03:53] <xtknight> ewood: get an lcd :)
[03:53] <mneptok> daviey: name calling is really unnecessary.,
[03:53] <AMAG> The partitioning tool, and grub, will not work from the ubuntu installer menu; perhaps because the array is > 2TB; I'm not sure
[03:53] <Curtman> I put Ubuntu on my dad's PC..  Every couple of days he phones me to tell me that all he see's when he boots up is a black screen.  When I log in it looks like Ubuntu is starting X without gdm, and preventing gdm from loading.  I kill X, and start gdm and it works fine.  Anyone know why?
[03:53] <mneptok> daviey: (and it's spelled "prat" in ENG, if you care)
[03:53] <daviey> mneptok, and so is missing the correlation between ENG and english!
[03:54] <daviey> mneptok, take it to private chat if you really want to carry it on.  This aint the place for it
[03:54] <shutterbc> Guys -- can you please take your argument out of the channel?
[03:54] <AMAG> So I've built a kernel with the correct 3ware driver compiled in, which is now located in /boot, which is a 400MB ext3 filesystem which linux sees as /dev/sda1; my root filesystem is at /dev/sda2
[03:54] <ivx> amag, i may be wrong, but if you have a huge drive like that i think you need a different kernel version for the extra hard disk support, ask some who may know though
[03:54] <mneptok> Curtman: what happens if you remove "splash" from the kernel boot options?
[03:54] <AMAG> Now I've run grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/sda
[03:55] <shutterbc> hmm... maybe if AMAG gives me his array, I'll try to work on it :)
[03:55] <AMAG> Does this simply detect the available images and configure an appropriate menu?
[03:55] <Curtman> mneptok: I'll give it a try, and see if the calls stop.  ;)
[03:55] <ewood> xtknight: What I need is to be able to set my refresh rate higher, which I can manage in Fedora, but not in Ubuntu. How do I fix that?
[03:55] <kitche> !fixres|ewood
[03:55] <ubotu> ewood: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:55] <xtknight> ewood: ^^
[03:56] <AMAG> I'm not entirely certain the BIOS will map the 3ware array to hd0 so I'm a bit concerned that, upon boot, the images won't be where GRUB expects them to be.  Will I be able to recover from this from within GRUB?
[03:56] <mneptok> Curtman: my father's old Dell laptop didn't like Edgy's splash at *any* vga= setting, so it just booted in text mode
[03:56] <GMachine_24> mneptok: I ran the nautilus setup as you suggested, checked the box for a trash icon to appear on the desktop and closed the editor... but no trash icon appears. I reopened the nautilus configurator and the trash icon on desktop is still checked - what did I do wrong? Must I restart the desktop (or something?)
[03:57] <moyofalaye> @ewood http://www.linuxcompatible.org/Screen_refresh_rate_t33565.html
[03:57] <AMAG> Or is it possible the additional binaries grub needs to understand ext2 filesystems also won't be accessible to it?
[03:57] <Curtman> mneptok: Isn't Ubuntu's splash support done on the framebuffer?  It's actually X that is getting in the way of gdm.
[03:58] <usr13> Trying to set up nfs  Not sure what to do on the server system, (this one) - it keeps saying "Connection refused".
[03:58] <mneptok> GMachine_24: it should show up immediately. but perhaps gconf wants a little stop/start ... *shrug*
[03:58] <usr13> I have created directory, but well, what next?
[03:58] <BlueEagle> !downgrade
[03:58] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[03:58] <GMachine_24> mneptok: yes i agree it should happen but i will log out and back in to see. thanks again.
[03:58] <BlueEagle> How about downgrading a spesific package?
[03:58] <ewood> Well, seems I'd have to restart my X server for it to work. I don't want my download interrupted.
[03:58] <lordkeiden> hi. breakage boy here.
[03:58] <mneptok> Curtman: the splash on the Dell left the buffer in a weird state that made X go sideways.
[03:58] <moyofalaye> PLease PLease pLEase For some reason i cant get my apps to save there configs, Example azurueus wont update, cause it cant write to a certain folder
[03:58] <daviey> !nfs | usr13
[03:58] <ubotu> usr13: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[03:59] <ewood> Now at 80% of the 'Zod' PPC DVD.
[03:59] <coolball> hi
[03:59] <moyofalaye> ewood i sent you a link that can help you out. it helped me
[03:59] <moyofalaye> look up
[04:00] <coolball> to get a res option greater than 1024x768 what must i do?... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[04:00] <lordkeiden> I installed network manager and i lost my wlan connection. network monitor didnt even show a wlan0 anymore. i removed network manager and rebooted and here i am.
[04:00] <Flannel> !fixres | coolball
[04:00] <ubotu> coolball: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:00] <lordkeiden> it network manager still flakey in feisty?
[04:00] <lordkeiden> is, not it...oops
[04:00] <Flannel> lordkeiden: #ubuntu+1 for feisty support
[04:00] <Shadowpillar> anyone know of any 64-bit beryl repositories?
[04:01] <Flannel> Shadowpillar: #ubuntu-effects for Beryl support
[04:01] <lordkeiden> sweet. thanks
[04:01] <ewood> moyofalaye: I did use the link, and thank you. From reading it, though, I'd have to edit a config file and then restart the X server, which presumably ends my Firefox download.
[04:01] <moyofalaye> Please no one has responded to my pleas i cant get my Apps to save there configs
[04:01] <mneptok> moyofalaye: the problem you are having is only with Azureus, yes?
[04:02] <moyofalaye> not only with Azurueus but with the app called "simple backup "
[04:02] <ewood> What are beryl repositories?
[04:03] <mneptok> moyofalaye: did you install these from the repositories?
[04:03] <Flannel> ewood: #ubuntu-effects for beryl support
[04:03] <moyofalaye> yes
[04:03] <moyofalaye> thank you for your response
[04:03] <mneptok> moyofalaye: then that is how they should be updated
[04:03] <tuna-fish-> how can one install something build with make so that it can be removed trough apt?
[04:03] <ewood> I have a 64-bit system, so I'd be interested in knowing what it is. A source of packages just for Ubuntu?
[04:03] <Flannel> !checkinstall | tuna-fish-
[04:03] <ubotu> tuna-fish-: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[04:03] <moyofalaye> but like if i change some settings they wont save
[04:03] <daviey> ewood, are you using xgl?  If so don't install the latest beryl; it's borked.  Use synamptic to install the previous version
[04:03] <dbglt> my X server crashes whenever I adjust my laptop screen's brightness up or down. Any ideas what could be causing this?
[04:04] <mneptok> moyofalaye: if Azureus tells you there is an update, ignore it. rely on the update manager.
[04:04] <tuna-fish-> thanks
[04:04] <Flannel> ewood: oh.  Beryl is one of those fancy spinny desktop doohickeys
[04:04] <moyofalaye> Thanks
[04:04] <ewood> Actually, that reminds me. I can't get the last three releases of Ubuntu to boot or install on my AMD system.
[04:04] <moyofalaye> ok what about Nvidia settings manager, when i save settings it just wont write to xorg.conf i would have to do it manually
[04:05] <nopcode> yo
[04:05] <dbglt> moyofalaye: running it as super user?
[04:05] <nopcode> i've just installed xubuntu ; why cant i find emacs in that package manager?
[04:05] <ewood> Flannel: Must be like the screen effects in Fedora Core 6, then. Using that on the 64-bit system led to crashes, but then that system always crashes when I try to use my 3D card.
[04:05] <vox754> So anybody needs help with Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder, card=4 -> ATI TV Wonder Pro?
[04:05] <ewood> I have all the most rotten luck with Linux and with PCs.
[04:05] <moyofalaye> how do i do that and please how do i get the apps to lauch as super users from the start bar
[04:06] <MrSatanic> Does anyone know what Novell's Slab menu is?
[04:06] <daviey> moyofalaye, make a launcher and put gksudo appname
[04:06] <Flannel> ewood: no, I believe the FC screen effects are different.
[04:06] <moyofalaye> thank you very very very much.
[04:06] <shutterbc> I have horrible luck as well, then burn many hours of time troubleshooting to compensate.
[04:06] <nopcode> how do i access all the packages on the xubuntu-cd?
[04:06] <ewood> Flannel: Are we talking about something similar, though? The X GUI using the 3D GPU?
[04:07] <usr13> daviey:  What I'm wanting to do is make a backup image of a [small]  laptop HD here (on a nfs share), and then, install the new [bigger]  HD in the laptop, and copy the image into /dev/hda2 of the new drive, and then spit it onto hda1  e.g. "gzip -d < image.gz | dd of=/dev/hda1"  (or something like that)...
[04:07] <Flannel> ewood: You can get a much better description from #ubuntu-effects, with screenshots and videos and stuff.
[04:07] <Flannel> nopcode: which CD?  I guess....
[04:08] <daviey> usr13, can you physically get to the 'server'?
[04:08] <Flannel> nopcode: the liveCD?  There aren't many packages on that.  but, apt-cdrom will allow you to add the CDrom to your sources, for the few packages available there.
[04:08] <usr13> Anywai.. need to set up nfs, first, I guess.
[04:08] <usr13> Yes.
[04:08] <nopcode> Flannel: wtf?
[04:08] <usr13> This machine is to be the server, and the laptop is sitting next to me, [open to suggestions] .
[04:08] <nopcode> it was almost a full cd
[04:09] <nopcode> half a gig or somthing
[04:09] <lordkeiden> anyone got gmailfs to work?
[04:09] <nopcode> there must be the majority of packages on it
[04:09] <Flannel> nopcode: right.  the DesktopCD is an image, not a repository, like the alternate CD
[04:09] <nopcode> why didnt it tell that it's just a live cd?
[04:09] <nopcode> i downloaded a "release"
[04:09] <nopcode> that's not a live cd for me
[04:09] <Flannel> nopcode: nope.  Only a dozen packages or so, build-essential, ndiswrapper, some essential stuff.
[04:09] <nopcode> damn
[04:09] <Flannel> nopcode: its a liveCD you can install from.
[04:09] <nopcode> why dont they properly tell so on the page?
[04:10] <Flannel> nopcode: they do.
[04:10] <nopcode> i don't have easy internet connectivity on the machine
[04:10] <nopcode> http://www.xubuntu.org/get
[04:10] <nopcode> where on that page?
[04:10] <felixcanis11> so i'm having problems....ubuntu keeps freezing on me. my RAM is 375 (sucks, i know) and i have a 1098 swap. i just swapped to ubuntu from gentoo...it wiped my hard drive and repartitioned it in the process. anyone have any idea how i can get it to stop freezing like this?
[04:10] <usr13> It is an older laptop with 6Gig. HD.  I have a new 40Gig. dirive for it.
[04:10] <txoof> where is /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d created?
[04:10] <hdz> knight?
[04:11] <felixcanis11> any help would be totally awesome, cause i'm a student and i have papers to write but i can't if it keeps freezing like this
[04:11] <usr13> Need to put Win2k on a small partiton, (leaving a big one for fresh new install of Ubuntu on the larger half).
[04:11] <nopcode> Flannel: it's 520 mb. how do they make an iso that large with only essential packages?
[04:11] <Flannel> nopcode: once you click on a mirror, when you go to select an image, there's descriptions for all of them.
[04:11] <hdz> awh man did he leave
[04:12] <Flannel> nopcode: it's an entire linux image.  It installs by copying that image to your HD.
[04:12] <nopcode> so it's not even a proper installation, just knoppix-style bullshit?
[04:12] <hdz> xknight left?
[04:12] <Flannel> nopcode: no, it IS a proper installation.
[04:12] <nathanael> Cannot access ubuntu.compiz.net as repository - does anyone know if this is down or gone?
[04:12] <vox754> So anybody needs help with Conexant CX23880/1/2/3 PCI Video and Audio Decoder, card=4 -> ATI TV Wonder Pro?
[04:12] <hdz> its more then proper
[04:13] <Flannel> nopcode: you can install from either CD, although they do it differently.  And please, watch your language.
[04:13] <nopcode> Flannel: i'm just angry, downloading 500 mb for nothing
[04:13] <hdz> where did knight go
[04:13] <Flannel> nopcode: what do you mean for nothing?  You're tryign to install, right?
[04:13] <nopcode> base system would be what like 30-40 mb, how do you blow that up to 500?
[04:13] <Shadowpillar> vox754: isnt that the ivtv driver?
[04:14] <Flannel> nopcode: No.  Base system is ~500Mb
[04:14] <nopcode> Flannel: yeah, i was hoping to get an iso with all packages
[04:14] <knovak> ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package right? i'm on Dapper, and I want to remove the default games, but when I try it says it needs to take out ubuntu-desktop.
[04:14] <nopcode> Flannel: nah that cant be
[04:14] <Music_Shuffle> You add basic packages.
[04:14] <nopcode> 500 mb might be a full installation or sth
[04:14] <Flannel> nopcode: it is.  A full xubuntu install takes 1.5GB of space or so
[04:14] <vox754> Shadowpillar: Not sure. I just helped someone to make it work.
[04:14] <Flannel> nopcode: correct, it's a full xubuntu installation.
[04:14] <nopcode> Flannel: uhm
[04:14] <nopcode> that sounds like windows
[04:14] <lordkeiden> Flannel: isn't the base system include open office, evolution, and stuff?
[04:15] <Flannel> lordkeiden: well, xubuntu uses different programs, but yes, it includes a full desktop.
[04:15] <nopcode> well ok so i'll have to find a way to hook that laptop up to the net
[04:15] <nopcode> i suppose nothing will happen when i insert that usb wlan dongle i got here?
[04:15] <BlueEagle> ps aux
[04:15] <Flannel> nopcode: you can boot from it, yes.
[04:15] <burma7> internet is down
[04:15] <burma7> anyone feeling it?
[04:15] <burma7> oh sorry. its in malaysia only
[04:15] <BlueEagle> wrong window :)
[04:16] <Flannel> nopcode: I'm still not sure what you're looking for (and therefore why the desktop CD isn't right for you)
[04:16] <nopcode> Flannel: weird things like "emacs"
[04:16] <Flannel> or at least why it won't work for you.
[04:16] <nopcode> why isnt that fscking included?
[04:16] <stormy|> how do I add a program switch to the program's normal startup  command? (the one that runs when you start up the computer)
[04:16] <nopcode> it should be in any minimalistic iso image
[04:16] <beterraba> hello, how do i do to change my desktop image? it looks like it was locked, but i dont know how it happened!
[04:16] <Flannel> nopcode: emacs isn't on the alternate CD either
[04:16] <Shadowpillar> nopcode: what? emacs? lol
[04:17] <jbinder> hi
[04:17] <bruenig> !hi | jbinder
[04:17] <ubotu> jbinder: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[04:17] <nopcode> Flannel: so on what cd is it then?
[04:17] <hdz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4202/
[04:17] <Shadowpillar> Flannel: because emacs takes up 5 cd's
[04:17] <Shadowpillar> lol
[04:17] <Flannel> nopcode: None.  Well, I guess it might be on the DVD
[04:17] <beterraba> hello, how do i do to change my desktop image? it looks like it was locked, but i dont know how it happened!
[04:17] <Flannel> nopcode: Ubuntu doesn't do the debian CD thing, where you can grab all the repositories on CDs
[04:18] <nopcode> Flannel: i was thinking along the lines of "the whole repository on one CD"
[04:18] <hdz> i give up
[04:18] <bruenig> beterraba, right click on the desktop, change desktop background
[04:18] <silvertip257> can anyone point me to a webpage or whatever that will tell me if Ubuntu 6.06 is compatible/has drivers for a certain wireless card
[04:18] <nnk> How do I turn a .tar.gz into a .deb?
[04:18] <bruenig> !wifi
[04:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:18] <knovak> ubuntu-desktop is just a meta package right? i'm on Dapper, and I want to remove the default games, but when I try it says it needs to take out ubuntu-desktop.
[04:18] <silvertip257> thanks bruenig
[04:18] <silvertip257> lol
[04:18] <Flannel> nopcode: Nope.  The whole repository is huge.  Since it contains ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, etc, etc, etc.  They all share the exact same repositories
[04:18] <jbinder> nnk: you can't
[04:18] <beterraba> bruenig, sorry, there is not this option!!
[04:18] <nnk> jbinder, how do I make a .deb at all?
[04:18] <bruenig> ok!!!
[04:18] <Flannel> knovak: right.  Just a metapackage, replace it before upgrading to edgy!
[04:18] <nopcode> Flannel: well they should be 95% identical to each other right?
[04:18] <OneOfTheMany> nkk:  alien ?
[04:18] <jbinder> nnk: you download it
[04:19] <bruenig> beterraba, unfortunately I am using xfce, I forgot how gnome does it
[04:19] <nopcode> Flannel: it's just a different window-manager default?
[04:19] <jbinder> nnk: you don't make it
[04:19] <Flannel> nopcode: Er... no.  Theyre all very different.  All the GUI stuff is different.  All the GUI programs, etc.
[04:19] <hdz> wouldn't it be a better idea to use the usb1.1 instead of all this bridge routing to pci 2.0 usb card to usb linksys?
[04:19] <nnk> jbinder, obvious there is a way to make .debs somehow...
[04:19] <nopcode> Flannel: gui is just a minor portion
[04:19] <beterraba> i dont use gnome
[04:19] <jbinder> nnk: oh i get it
[04:19] <jbinder> lol
[04:19] <beterraba> i use kde
[04:19] <nnk> even if not from a .tar.gz
[04:19] <jbinder> nnk: i know how to make a .deb from an rpm
[04:19] <jbinder> with alien
[04:19] <nnk> yeah...
[04:19] <nnk> but there's also something at the make/make install stage, I think...
[04:20] <Flannel> nopcode: er, not really.  It's the majority of the MB on the CD.  The CLI is identical for all of them, correct.  Well, even that's not true.  Since, I know ubuntu includes some CLI programs that aren't in Kubuntu, for instance.
[04:20] <nnk> I just forgot the command
[04:20] <bruenig> nnk, checkinstall
[04:20] <Flannel> !checkinstll | nnk
[04:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about checkinstll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:20] <nnk> !checkinstall | nnk
[04:20] <vox754> nnk: yes there are methods, but I currently cannot mention one. Let me check.
[04:20] <nopcode> Flannel: and why would the use different gui programs?
[04:20] <jbinder> nnk: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-92016.html
[04:20] <jbinder> nnk: click
[04:20] <nopcode> s/the/they/
[04:21] <Flannel> nopcode: because they use different libraries.  And as such, you don't have.. Gedit, for instance, in KDE (you have Kate).  Or Evolution.
[04:21] <nnk> checkinstall was what I was looking for, thanks guys
[04:21] <zbadone> my old HD was setup as a LVM partition, booting from another HD, /dev/mapper/...  doesnt show up in /dev
[04:21] <jbinder> k
[04:21] <lordkeiden> flannel: i just installed xubuntu on my ubunto system. does firefox, openoffice and evolution run stable in it?
[04:21] <nopcode> wait so you're saying they chose the software based on toolkit facism??
[04:21] <zbadone> when I put the old HD (LVM) back into the system\
[04:21] <Flannel> lordkeiden: Of course they do.
[04:22] <Flannel> nopcode: Er... Yes.  Because if you're running KDE, and you install a Gnome program, you have to drag in the entire gnome toolkit.
[04:22] <GMachine_24> Hi - I was just here about 10 minutes ago and someone posted a URL to Linux information about setting screen resolution. I forgot to save the URL - is that person still here or does anyone else have it?
[04:22] <Flannel> nopcode: anyway, this is getting offtopic, I'd be happy to continue in #ubuntu-offtopic, if you'd like.
[04:22] <bruenig> !fixres
[04:22] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:22] <nopcode> Flannel: ok
[04:22] <Shadowpillar> Flannel: that's like saying the windows API is fascist
[04:23] <zbadone> so my question is, how do I mount a previous LVM partiton?
[04:23] <zbadone> whne /dev/mapper doesnt show up in /dev
[04:23] <Shadowpillar> having a million UI api's is just a great idea. I love the performance loss and the design clash
[04:23] <GMachine_24> ubotu: cheers mate
[04:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cheers mate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:23] <bruenig> !lvm
[04:23] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:23] <bruenig> !thanks | GMachine_24
[04:23] <ubotu> GMachine_24: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[04:23] <doubleA> I just loaded Edgy (my first linux).  working fine, but making no sounds.  How do i turn on the sound?
[04:23] <GMachine_24> ................................i was wondering
[04:24] <zbadone> but the LVM partition is NOT set up as a RAID device
[04:24] <lordkeiden> Flannel: good. I have a fast lappy, about a year old, but I figure y let the desktop suck up the cpu cuz it can?
[04:24] <bruenig> zbadone, did you check the second link there
[04:24] <xtknight> hdz: im here if you need help
[04:24] <ben_> i ned help
[04:24] <xtknight> !ask | ben_
[04:24] <ubotu> ben_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:24] <zbadone> not yet, since I had people responding I figured to ask all before leaving
[04:24] <ben_> i'm having a problem with steam now
[04:24] <illriginal> How come my screen saver pauses/jumps?
[04:24] <ben_> fonts dont' show up
[04:25] <bruenig> illriginal, you have weak hardware probably
[04:25] <zbadone> but will check into it
[04:25] <xtknight> ben_: known issue with steam , look on winehq app database for a fix
[04:25] <illriginal> hm... ok
[04:25] <ben_> link?
[04:25] <illriginal> so just use a black screen as a screen saver?
[04:25] <bruenig> they jump on mine too, so I just go with blank screen
[04:25] <zbadone> somehow my /usr/sahre/perl got screwed up badly
[04:25] <illriginal> cool
[04:25] <zbadone> /usr/share/perl
[04:25] <illriginal> ah well
[04:25] <illriginal> thanks anyways :P
[04:26] <xtknight> ben_: bug #4449 http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554
[04:26] <zbadone> try to copy over another HD /usr/share/perl
[04:26] <bruenig> they don't all jump just some of the more demanding ones
[04:26] <zbadone> from another system
[04:26] <doubleA> 2
[04:26] <ben_> wait
[04:26] <quaal> why did my ntfs mount just take a dump
[04:26] <ben_> i found a different soltuion
[04:26] <quaal> was working fine
[04:26] <zbadone> that time of day?
[04:26] <quaal> now i cant mount it
[04:26] <xtknight> lol
[04:26] <ben_> Ok guys, if you manage to copy the Tahoma.tff to your ./wine/drive_c/windows/fonts and you still can't see anything. You might have been a doughnut and installed steam/wine as root?
[04:26] <ben_> In this case you also need to add the font to your /root/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts
[04:26] <ben_> It might also be helpful to say, if you copied the two needed windows .dlls to your user/.wine folder, so should probably chuck the .dlls in the /root/.wine too.
[04:27] <jenia6230> {blow}
[04:28] <ben_> where would steam be saved?
[04:28] <xtknight> ben_: probably ~/.wine/drive_c/program files/valve
[04:28] <Moxxon> How do you mount a CD in ubuntu?
[04:29] <fr500> Moxxon: just insert it
[04:29] <bruenig> Moxxon, should mount automatically
[04:29] <Moxxon> k
[04:29] <ben_> okay
[04:29] <Moxxon> To run a CD in wine its
[04:29] <ben_> how do i get there?
[04:29] <felixcanis11> hey....i need some help. right now i'm booting puppy linux from a live CD because my ubuntu (Edgy Eft) keeps freezing up on me. sometimes it happens when the system is booting. sometimes it happens when i'm signing on. often it happens randomly after startup, anywhere from just a second after my desktop shows up to an hour or two later. i really need some help...i don't know ubuntu cause i just switched to it from gentoo. can an
[04:29] <Moxxon> Wine /media/cd1/installer.exe
[04:29] <Moxxon> Right?
[04:30] <xtknight> ben_: Places->Home   , view->show hidden files  , navigate to .wine
[04:30] <bruenig> Moxxon, probably /media/cdrom1/installer.exe assuming those are all correct
[04:30] <Moxxon> Right
[04:30] <fr500> Moxxon: yes
[04:30] <bruenig> Moxxon, don't know what you called the mountpoints and such
[04:30] <Moxxon> If its a multi CD installation
[04:30] <Moxxon> And you take teh CD out
[04:30] <Moxxon> will it still run?
[04:30] <Moxxon> or how does that work?
[04:30] <fr500> Moxxon: there is a way for doing that, look at the wine docs
[04:30] <Moxxon> I know copying it all into one folder right?
[04:31] <SoulGrind> hello
[04:31] <ben_> where do i find navigate?
[04:31] <xtknight> ben_: i mean navigate to the .wine folder.  double click it
[04:32] <Moxxon> fr500, I copied all of the files from each of the CDs into one files but it gave me an error message, I did the /media/cdrom1/installer.exe and it worked?
[04:32] <ben_> got it ;)
[04:32] <ben_> thanks
[04:32] <Moxxon> So Im not sure what to do
[04:32] <SoulGrind> I'm fairly new to ubuntu - having some problems configuring my monitor to an optimal resolution. Seems ubuntu is limited to 640x480
[04:32] <fr500> Moxxon: #wine?
[04:32] <Moxxon> 0.9.30
[04:32] <bruenig> !fixres | SoulGrind
[04:32] <ubotu> SoulGrind: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[04:32] <Moxxon> oh you want me to go into that channel
[04:33] <felixcanis11> anyone? please? i'm a student and i really need to work on papers.....can anyone help me with this problem with the crashing?
[04:33] <fr500> yeah
[04:33] <xtknight> felixcanis11: we need to know the problem
[04:33] <felixcanis11> i already posted the problem and was ignored.... (03:29:19) felixcanis11: hey....i need some help. right now i'm booting puppy linux from a live CD because my ubuntu (Edgy Eft) keeps freezing up on me. sometimes it happens when the system is booting. sometimes it happens when i'm signing on. often it happens randomly after startup, anywhere from just a second after my desktop shows up to an hour or two later. i really need some
[04:33] <hdz> xtknight
[04:34] <hdz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4202/
[04:34] <hdz> i think i overwrote the lspci -vv tho :\
[04:34] <nick_> can someone help me on how to uninstall a driver?
[04:34] <xtknight> hdz: ok that's dmesg...just type `sudo lspci -vv` and post it
[04:34] <xtknight> nick_: which driver?
[04:34] <xtknight> nick_: sudo modprobe -r <driver_name>
[04:35] <bruenig> felixcanis11, that problem is so wide open, it could be nearly anything
[04:35] <nick_> i tried a linuxant driver and i want to unistall it
[04:35] <hdz> xtknight what are yo trying to find with that
[04:35] <xtknight> hdz: the driver for your linksys usb adapter
[04:35] <bruenig> fresh install would probably be easiest
[04:35] <hdz> cisco
[04:35] <nick_> its a US robotics usb adapter
[04:35] <fr500> felixcanis11: can you try to boot without usplash?
[04:36] <xtknight> hdz: cisco is not the name of a driver
[04:36] <felixcanis11> how do i do that? like i said, new to ubuntu
[04:36] <fr500> !usplash
[04:36] <ubotu> To select the usplash artwork you want, use "sudo update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so && sudo update-initramfs -u" - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/USplashCustomizationHowto for adding your custom artwork
[04:36] <hdz> it all points to the usb bus, and the north and south bridge
[04:36] <Christopher> Hey guys. I have this problem, everytime I type lana in backwards in any form on Ubuntu 6.10, my current window closes. anyone else have this problem?
[04:36] <xtknight> nick_: linuxant probably has uninstall instructions
[04:37] <hdz> should i try it in the regular 1.1 usb slot i might get better results instead of this stuff
[04:37] <Christopher> Is it possibly a parental control on? somebody try it.
[04:37] <xtknight> hdz: yeah, i guess
[04:37] <hdz> ohci is the driver but that's for the
[04:37] <hdz> card
[04:37] <threeonefour> do i have to reinstall linux if i put my current harddrive into my new machine
[04:37] <hdz> hrm
[04:37] <hdz> this is so painstaking heh
[04:37] <fr500> felixcanis11: when the boot menu appears edit the kernel line removing silent and or splash, then boot
[04:37] <xtknight> Christopher: i can type anal without any problems on any of my windows ;)
[04:38] <Christopher> Really?
[04:38] <xtknight> erm....yeah
[04:38] <xtknight> i dont know what's going on
[04:38] <Music_Shuffle> Christopher, as can I.
[04:38] <Music_Shuffle> Lol.
[04:38] <xtknight> can you type canal?
[04:38] <bruenig> threeonefour, probably for hardware configuration and such you would. I would at least try it and see and then go from there
[04:38] <xtknight> ;P
[04:38] <Music_Shuffle> haha
[04:38] <Christopher> anal.
[04:38] <xtknight> lol
[04:38] <Music_Shuffle> .....rofl.
[04:38] <xtknight> i think its a prank or something
[04:38] <ben_> Ok guys, if you manage to copy the Tahoma.tff to your ./wine/drive_c/windows/fonts and you still can't see anything. You might have been a doughnut and installed steam/wine as root?
[04:38] <ben_> In this case you also need to add the font to your /root/.wine/drive_c/windows/fonts
[04:38] <ben_> It might also be helpful to say, if you copied the two needed windows .dlls to your user/.wine folder, so should probably chuck the .dlls in the /root/.wine too.
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[04:38] <ben_> how do i do that?
[04:38] <elkbuntu> !paste | ben_
[04:38] <ubotu> ben_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[04:38] <Music_Shuffle> xtknight, seems the more likely.
[04:38] <Christopher> dude, what the heck?
[04:39] <hdz> xt: if i do sudo lspci -vv then take the usb out of the ohci pci card and put the linksys into 1.1, will unbuntu see it and if i do another lspci -vv will it change?
[04:39] <hdz> i wanna try toknock out two things at once
[04:39] <KeithC> hey guys - im having a lot of trouble getting a dell inspirion 600m even detect a wireless card let alone use it
[04:39] <xtknight> hdz: i dont know, try it
[04:39] <Music_Shuffle> xtknight, are there even parental control options in existence?
[04:39] <threeonefour> bruenig, my new machine has same ammount of ram same  video card just different processpr
[04:39] <Christopher> seriosuly, is anal a blocked word by a bundled in parental control thing...?
[04:39] <xtknight> Music_Shuffle: no
[04:39] <hdz> xt man i hope you come here a lot :)
[04:39] <ben_> how do i fix steams font error
[04:39] <xtknight> not that i know of
[04:39] <Music_Shuffle> I didn't think so.
[04:39] <ben_> without downloading anything
[04:40] <hdz> okay ill be back, someone wanted my dmesg, that doesn't help any?
[04:40] <nick_> so i have this usb wireless adapter how can i tell what driver it is using
[04:40] <kitche> Music_Shuffle: you can use squid for parental control
[04:40] <bruenig> threeonefour, go for it and see. If it doesn't work fresh install.
[04:40] <xtknight> hdz: not really.  i'll have to go soon
[04:40] <Christopher> Dude, this is messed up.
[04:40] <Christopher> later all.
[04:40] <elkbuntu> that response time for the quit is way too slow and the rejoin is far too quick
[04:40] <hdz> http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_Product_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1169083632250&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper that's the device
[04:40] <Music_Shuffle> kitche, I was just curious, not a parent, nor a fan of having my parents in control of much :P
[04:40] <hdz> damn will you be here for 30 minutes more?
[04:41] <Music_Shuffle> elkbuntu, you mean for that to be a legit concern?
[04:41] <elkbuntu> Music_Shuffle, i mean for it to be anything more than a prank
[04:42] <Music_Shuffle> lol
[04:42] <xtknight> hdz: nope, youll have to find out the chipset it uses
[04:42] <xtknight> hdz: search for the model number WUSB54GS and linux maybe youll get somewhere.  may have to use ndiswrapper or linuxant
[04:42] <devilsadvocate> how does one view a djvu file in ubuntu?
[04:43] <devilsadvocate> or an xml file for that matter
[04:43] <nick_> can anyone help me with wreless driver issues
[04:43] <xtknight> night
[04:43] <Music_Shuffle> Night.
[04:44] <hdz> knight what if i find the driver on the net
[04:45] <DarthLappy> I just rebooted one of my Ubuntu computers and got "EXT3-fs: error loading journal." I was then dropped in a BusyBox shell. Can I fix my installation?
[04:46] <frogzoo> DarthLappy: unless you're 7334 zuper hax0r, best you can do is boot a live cd & run fsck -a against the file system
[04:47] <DarthLappy> frogzoo: Okay.
[04:47] <ben_> can someone help me with steam?!
[04:47] <Chankster> is anyone knowledgeable on installing 5.10 on a oldworld ppc?
[04:47] <frogzoo> DarthLappy: and in future, don't cut the power while you're writing to drives ;)
[04:47] <DarthLappy> I didn't.
[04:47] <frogzoo> sure sure
[04:47] <hdz> i think i'm gonna reinstall heh
[04:47] <DarthLappy> I issued a normal reboot command from the console >_>
[04:48] <frogzoo> DarthLappy: what's your idea of a normal reboot command?
[04:48] <hdz> knight the lspci -vv just gives 3com for the eth0 which i dont use
[04:48] <DarthLappy> frogzoo: sudo reboot
[04:49] <hdz> it gives the usb bus drivers and bridge drivers listed
[04:49] <hdz> but i dont see Linksys cisco in there unless i do lsusb
[04:50] <DarthLappy> frogzoo: O_o well a few reboots actually seem to have done the trick.
[04:50] <Renan_s2> Hello, can someone here help with this problem when doing an upgrade from Dapper to Edgy: http://paste.ubuntubrasil.org/1522
[04:50] <kitche> DarthLappy: you should do shutdown -r now to reboot just to make sure data gets written correctly
[04:50] <luckyone> hello all - I am trying to figure out how to use slocate to find all of the .wma files on my system so I can delete them
[04:51] <hdz> See  here. Card works well once the Broadcom firmware is installed WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[04:51] <DarthLappy> kitche: They're not the same thing?
[04:51] <kitche> DarthLappy: they are but think reboot is a tad harsher then the shutdown command
[04:51] <DarthLappy> kitche: Ah, okay.
[04:51] <luckyone> so I am trying to do 'slocate /media/garage1/Music *.wma' and it isn't working for me... how do I make slocate search recursively
[04:52] <frogzoo> DarthLappy: no, not the same - reboot takes different flags, best to avoid reboot & use shutdown
[04:52] <shatrat> luckyone, why dont you just "locate *.wma"
[04:52] <KeithC> can anyone help me get wireless to work on my dell inspiron 600m? I cant get the built in wireless to work and now im working with a plugged inlinksys usb wireless card i just want one to work....
[04:52] <hdz> knight: i wont know if this is the redirecting hardware doing this so i'm gonna try to put it in 1.1 and reboot, do i need to rehash hardware for any reason so it looks at 1.1 instead of the pci 2.0 card
[04:52] <frogzoo> luckyone: locate pulls everything from its database, so recursive is the default
[04:53] <KeithC> hmmm i keep getting kicked from the server for some reason...
[04:53] <hdz> keithc: heh good luck
[04:53] <ewood> You're all just too white and nerdy...
[04:53] <shatrat> KeithC, wireless can be a pain.  Depending on what chipset you have you might need Ndiswrapper or something.  Check the how to
[04:53] <KeithC> is it that hard hdz?
[04:53] <KeithC> ive been reading multiple how tos
[04:53] <ewood> Or rather, we're all too white and nerdy
[04:53] <frogzoo> !offtopic | ewood
[04:53] <ubotu> ewood: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:53] <shatrat> !superbowl
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about superbowl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:53] <hdz> i have same card i'm having probs, but mines connected to a pciusb2.0 card
[04:53] <KeithC> its my older laptop - its smaller and light weight so i want to make it my take to class laptop and i want linux for it... if ubuntu is a pain to get to work with it what os would be good?
[04:54] <luckyone> shatrat: Well, how do I make it only look in a specified directory?
[04:54] <ewood> bots don't belong in IRC, far as I'm concerned. ubotu.
[04:54] <hdz> just ubuntu
[04:54] <shatrat> ewood, racism rears its ugly head
[04:54] <KeithC> was that directed at me hdz?
[04:54] <hdz> yes
[04:54] <ewood> shatrat, yeah, that Weird Al is one ugly racist alright..
[04:54] <shatrat> luckyone, I dont know, I've never cared.  Just go to the directory and "ls *.wma" if its just one directory
[04:54] <hdz> wont work there i dont see it workin on other os
[04:54] <hdz> what type linksys usb you have
[04:54] <KeithC> lemme check
[04:55] <hdz> i got wusb54gs
[04:55] <Chankster> is anyone knowledgeable on installing 5.10 on a oldworld ppc?
[04:55] <KeithC> linksys compact wireless g usb adapter
[04:55] <luckyone> shatrat: I see, it is several directories. I'll just locate them all
[04:55] <shatrat> why 5.10?
[04:55] <ewood> Chankster: Only tried newworld. Does it even work with BootX?
[04:55] <hdz> whats it say on the card
[04:55] <shatrat> luckyone, locate searches your whole filesystem.
[04:55] <KeithC> it says compact wireless-g usb adapter. thats about it.
[04:55] <Chankster> shatrat: thats the only version i can get to the install with
[04:56] <mrwillob1> I saw a thread online that was too confusing, does anyone know an easy way to reinstall GRUB?  mine got messed up when I switched drives around...
[04:56] <hdz> nah you gotta look for WUSB54***
[04:56] <shatrat> Chankster, maybe you should try the alternate install CD for 6.06?  Its likely just the liveCD youre having trouble with
[04:56] <hdz> else you aint gettin no where
[04:56] <Chankster> ewood: i've gotten it installed but when trying to boot i get some evms_activate error error
[04:56] <hdz> is it cisco?
[04:56] <frogzoo> mrwillob1: unfortunately, there's no right way to write an easy grub howto
[04:56] <slvmchn> i just updated from dapper to edgy and restarted, so far it works but i get this error message on boot
[04:56] <slvmchn> Icon 'dia_gnome_icon.png' not found
[04:56] <KeithC> WUSB54GC
[04:56] <slvmchn> any way to remove that
[04:56] <ReKlipz> !grup | mrwillob1
[04:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about grup - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:57] <KeithC> and yes its cisco
[04:57] <ReKlipz> !grub | mrwillob1
[04:57] <ubotu> mrwillob1: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:57] <ewood> shatrat: I'd think he's not trying the live CD with BootX. Not for that old version.
[04:57] <mrwillob1> everyone, thanks, I'll check it out
[04:57] <KeithC> hdz: need any more info on teh card?
[04:57] <Fear_of_C> I'm running 64 bit linux with a 512MB Nvidia graphics card (GeForce 7700 on Asus A8JS), and the 3d graphics run choppy
[04:57] <Fear_of_C> any ideas of how to solve this?
[04:57] <KeithC> hdz:  adapter*
[04:57] <hdz> yers is listed on that wifi page
[04:58] <shatrat> ewood, well if he uwas trying the liveCD, that would explain it's not working :)  Anyway, I have null experience with 5.10 and I doubt anybody in here is still running it, so any info is gonna be fuzzy by now
[04:58] <hdz> i wish i could fake mine to be pcmcia f*ck
[04:58] <hdz> i have s
[04:58] <hdz> you can find the driver on that wifi page yours is listed i just went across it an hour ago
[04:58] <KeithC> hdz: so basically the usb adapter will work once i plug it into the laptop? thats strange because ive been trying to get that to work too and still no succcess.
[04:58] <hdz> i think i'm assd out
[04:59] <KeithC> ooo sweet what page?
[04:59] <frogzoo> shatrat: 5.10 is LTS, so it's pretty popular
[04:59] <hdz> no you need the driver, ndiswrapper at most
[04:59] <luckyone> shatrat: I guess I want to use find then... it just had a longer man page and I am feeling lazy...
[04:59] <ewood> Chankster: Is it a problem with mounting root filesystem?
[04:59] <KeithC> where do i get the drive hdz?
[04:59] <Chankster> ewood: nope, its a evms_activate error
[04:59] <zero88> can anybody tell me what a good wifi scanner is?
[04:59] <Chankster> ewood: and ive gotten it on two separate oldworld g3s
[04:59] <hdz> theres shit on sourceforge
[05:00] <hdz> for wifi scanning
[05:00] <frogzoo> zero88: there is just one: kismet
[05:00] <hdz> um
[05:00] <hdz> !wifi
[05:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:00] <xixor> anyone have any advice on optimizing ubuntu/linux for use on a laptop with respect to optimizing battery life?
[05:00] <hdz> go there
[05:00] <zero88> frogzoo isnt that for cracking weps tho?
[05:00] <jeffery> could anyone tell me how I can rollback a deb package?
[05:00] <KeithC> hdz:  thank you for everything
[05:00] <frogzoo> zero88: it slices, it dices
[05:00] <ewood> Chankster: I did a search including that error, and just got something that applies to PC hardware and a problem mounting the root fs. They recommended typing in evms_activate
[05:00] <hdz> np make sure every setting is correct but yours is there i remember
[05:00] <ewood> So I don't know what's up.
[05:00] <frogzoo> jeffery: you can't - only uninstall, reinstall
[05:00] <cafuego_> xixor: `laptop-mode' is your friend.
[05:01] <hdz> mine could prob be faked as a pcmcia card but
[05:01] <zero88> frogzoo haha, ive been using aircrack, im jsut loking for something that can find locations
[05:01] <Chankster> ewood: typing it in where?
[05:01] <KeithC> hdz:  ill let you know how it goes im turnoning on the 600m now and see if i can get it to work with the files on htere....
[05:01] <rasputin> what packages provide the manpages for developer docs in ubuntu?
[05:01] <hdz> i dont think theres a driver, maybe routing through 3com hardware
[05:01] <ReKlipz> !laptop-mode
[05:01] <ubotu> laptop-mode: laptop-mode aims to reduce the power consumption of laptops. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 88 kB
[05:01] <hdz> ok
[05:01] <frogzoo> zero88: just the network manager, or wifi-radar maybe
[05:01] <bill57785> I need a hex editor for kubuntu
[05:01] <ewood> Chankster: after a different error.
[05:01] <cafuego_> rasputin: libc6 stuff? manpages-dev
[05:01] <hdz> !sudo
[05:01] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:01] <zero88> frogzoo ok thanks
[05:02] <ewood> Chankster: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1077772&mode=linear&highlight=stalls+boot+apic
[05:02] <KeithC> umm quick q hdz - if i got no internet on the mcahine how do i get the files for the wireless?
[05:02] <frogzoo> bill57785: apt-cache search editor | grep -i hex
[05:02] <ewood> Chankster: That's all I'm getting from ye olde Google.
[05:02] <Chankster> lol
[05:02] <cafuego_> KeithC: removable media
[05:02] <xixor> cafuego_: what is this laptop-mode you speak of?
[05:02] <tim167> i have 8 packages selected for install in synaptic, but 'apply' is grayed out...help!
[05:02] <cafuego_> xixor: Install it, check docs, enjoy.
[05:03] <frogzoo> bill57785: you might also try emacs's hex editor mode
[05:03] <KeithC> yah but all the ile names listed are apt-get commands cafuego...
[05:03] <ewood> tim167: if you select or deselect another package, it won't change? Just saying 'OK' also does nothing?
[05:03] <tim167> never mind, i had to start synaptic with sudo...
[05:03] <ewood> Hehe
[05:03] <tim167> :)
[05:03] <cafuego_> KeithC: then apt-zip might be your friend; you'll need to fetch that by hand, though.
[05:03] <KeithC> alright im off for the night - thank you everyone.
[05:04] <jessid> hello...some of you know how can I make the hard disks of my PC to cool down a little? I mean, the get very hot
[05:04] <cafuego_> jessid: how hot?
[05:04] <fr500> why does the open files dialog always show hidden files for me
[05:04] <shatrat> jessid, Fans.
[05:04] <fr500> only in edgy, never before
[05:05] <cafuego_> fr500: You enable it. Right click the files listing.
[05:05] <shatrat> jessid, also, hot hard drives are prone to failure, and a drive that suddenly runs hotter than it used to is a sign that a drive might be about to fail
[05:05] <fr500> let me check
[05:05] <bill57785> frogzoo: I type that in, but it just gave me a new command line
[05:05] <xixor> cafuego_: the only package I see is laptop-mode-tools, is that it?
[05:05] <cafuego_> !info laptop-mode
[05:05] <ubotu> laptop-mode: laptop-mode aims to reduce the power consumption of laptops. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4 (edgy), package size 13 kB, installed size 88 kB
[05:05] <cafuego_> xixor: Enable universe
[05:05] <Chankster> ewood: when it drops to a shell, i typed evms_activate but i got a not found error
[05:05] <jalvarado> hi
[05:05] <fr500> cafuego_: duh!!! thanks man
[05:05] <jessid> cafuego hurts the fingers if you touch them...I mean they are not working a lot to be so hot
[05:07] <ewood> Chankster: I wish I knew what evms is.
[05:07] <jessid> shatrat you r right, but i imagine there is a configuration file to make the hd to "disable" or turn off (dont know exactly the term)
[05:07] <Moxxon> Anyone here Russian?
[05:07] <ewood> Nyet
[05:07] <xixor> cafuego_: ok, will check it out, thanks, eh!  The other thing, is that I see that there is an IBM ACPI package to enable something ACPI things for IBM notebooks (I have a thinkpad).  The website says that its include in kernels 2.6.10 and later.  Is there a way I can check if this option has been compiled in the default ubuntu kernel that I am using?
[05:07] <cafuego_> jessid: I need a number. `smartctl' or `hddtemp' might help.
[05:07] <Moxxon> or from eastern europe?
[05:08] <Meshyf> Anyone know if the latest version of Beryl works with Ubuntu amd 64 version?
[05:08] <ewood> Moxxon: Ya ne ponymayu po russki
[05:08] <shatrat> jessid, I imagine there is as well, but if your hard drives are getting hot that is only a bandaid.  You need to fix the problem by cooling them.  Ball bearing 80mm fans are only a few dollars, and can save your hard drives.
[05:08] <nomasteryoda> cafuego, or anyone... why would edgy's gnome login break? I can get into this thing by choosing kde, but gnome just sits with the mouse cursor on the screen
[05:08] <ewood> Moxxon: Why?
[05:08] <cafuego_> xixor: find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name "*ibm*"
[05:08] <Meshyf> !Beryl
[05:08] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:08] <threeonefour> shatrat, can i take my current hd and put it into a newer comp   and still have everything wrok w/o reinstalling
[05:08] <ewood> !evms
[05:08] <ubotu> evms: Enterprise Volume Management System (core). In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.5-15 (edgy), package size 84 kB, installed size 304 kB
[05:09] <ewood> Well, that's handy..
[05:09] <jessid> cafuego_ wait for a second...i have to install those
[05:09] <nomasteryoda> and yes i have beryl installed.. but that works fine in kde ...
[05:09] <bobby_> :o
[05:09] <bobby_> >_>
[05:09] <ewood> Chankster: Are you using LVMs?
[05:09] <Atnan> Has anyone experienced difficulties with installing a base-system using the "alternate" media?
[05:09] <Chankster> ewood: whats lvms?
[05:09] <xixor> cafuego_: wow, that is a snazy command.  It has found /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/drivers/acpi/ibm_acpi.ko, so I guess it is there, that is great
[05:10] <shatrat> threeonefour, probably not boot from it, you could boot from something else and read the data though
[05:10] <Atnan> The installer states "To install only the base system, type 'server' then ENTER"....which brings up "Could not find kernel image: server".
[05:10] <ewood> Chankster: Logical Volume Management, i think. Something that ubuntu and Fedora use, at least. They don't use standard partitions, but create virtual volumes within an LVM group.
[05:10] <shatrat> threeonefour, then again, if it might work.  it certainly wont break anything if you try
[05:10] <doubleA> trying to set up Evolution with gmail.  does anyone know the server settings or how i find them out?
[05:10] <Chankster> ewood: and how would i know if im using it
[05:10] <cafuego_> doubleA: gmail lists pop and smtp server settings somewhere on the site
[05:11] <bobby_> doubleA, : its on gmail's help
[05:11] <Chankster> ewood: i know my os9 is on /dev/sda9 and ubuntu on /dev/sda10
[05:11] <doubleA> cafuego, thanks.  i try looking there again
[05:11] <seww> how is compiz different from beryl and which one is better/more stable?
[05:11] <nomasteryoda> beryl is better.. .imho
[05:11] <seww> yeah
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> certainly prettier
[05:12] <ewood> Chankster: That's a good question, but I think the installer will use it by default.
[05:12] <seww> hmm ok
[05:12] <kitche> seww: beryl doesnt need gnome to work
[05:12] <threeonefour> shatrat, thats what a wanted to hear thx
[05:12] <seww> i just cant install beryl at all so im looking for other options
[05:12] <nonickforme> Can somone help me out with files rights on a Samba share? THe files in the root directory of it can be edited fine but i can create dirs or edit anything in the sub dirs.
[05:12] <shatrat> seww, neither one is particularly stable by any sane standards.  Beryl is a fork off compiz and seems to get more updates and features.  I would imagine compiz would be more stable
[05:12] <Chankster> ewood: then yea i am using it lol
[05:12] <nomasteryoda> yup. ... using beryl right now on kde... was on gnome earlier tonight... but some update .. i think... dorked that
[05:12] <seww> shatrat: ok thx
[05:12] <ewood> Chankster: Could try a new installation and manually partition, I'd think.
[05:12] <Dakylla> hi
[05:13] <Chankster> ewood: instead of using the largest free space?
[05:13] <Atnan> No-one has experience with Ubuntu-server installs? Is there a separate channel?
[05:13] <Dakylla> im earching for the better device to get  evolution snced please
[05:13] <Dakylla> any clue ?
[05:13] <seww> one more thing, it doesn't seem like i can connect to Foonetic's IRC server with Xchat in ubuntu but in XP it works fine, any ideas?
[05:13] <nomasteryoda> Chankster, sounds like the cd is defective...
[05:13] <ewood> Chankster: I think so. I haven't installed Ubuntu 5.10 in a while.
[05:14] <Chankster> nomasteryoda, its a pressed CD from the company
[05:14] <ewood> Chankster: I also never manually did partitions for it. Haven't had problems, but I've only installed onto newer Macs.
[05:14] <nomasteryoda> ah, i've had those be bad too Chankster
[05:14] <Fear_of_C_> any reason why graphics on 64 bit linux would by choppy?
[05:15] <Fear_of_C_> I'm using nvidia Geforce Go 7700 w/ 512MB
[05:15] <ewood> I have factory CDs that are fine.
[05:15] <Fear_of_C_> with the nvidia drivers installed
[05:15] <Chankster> nomasteryoda: either way i cant get 6.06 or 6.10 to even get to the install
[05:15] <jessid> cafuego_ 49 degrees
[05:16] <jessid> wonderful tool this hddtemp!!!
[05:16] <nomasteryoda> Chankster, if you hit escape when starting up the CD and edit the boot menu to exclude the quiet and splash you might find more info right there to help us
[05:17] <Erealz> hello everyone
[05:17] <jalvarado> Hi
[05:17] <Erealz> I just installed ubuntu
[05:17] <jalvarado> ok
[05:17] <Chankster> nomasteryoda: i cant even get to a install on 6.06 or 6.10 and on 5.10 i don't even get to the splash once installed
[05:17] <Erealz> working good so far
[05:17] <jalvarado> Erealz, ok
[05:17] <w1jrm> can anyone here tell me how to adjust the sync rates in ubuntu i am having an issue with my monitor
[05:17] <Erealz> id like to know if anyone can help with some quick questions...?
[05:18] <Chankster> Eralz | !ask
[05:18] <shatrat> Erealz, shoot
[05:18] <jalvarado> Erealz, shure
[05:18] <shatrat> Chankster, !dyslexia\
[05:18] <Erealz> alright
[05:18] <ewood> Ubuntu's not too clear about Mac system requirements. "Modern G3, G4 and G5 computers, including iBooks and PowerBooks."
[05:18] <Chankster> rofl
[05:18] <Chankster> oops
[05:18] <ewood> I'm willing to bet there's no active support for OldWorld Macs in Ubuntu.
[05:18] <Erealz> one sec
[05:18] <jalvarado> Erealz, ok
[05:18] <tim167> hi all, I'm trying to compile/install Wired, there is a autogen.sh file, it has an error : "aclocal: unrecognized option '--force' " what is aclocal supposed to do ?
[05:19] <Chankster> ewood: i followed the oldworld instructions on the wiki so apparently it works on g3s
[05:19] <Erealz> ok so part of the reason I installed ubuntu is because of the cool 3d desktop engin beryl.
[05:19] <Erealz> I use this tutorial to install http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html
[05:19] <shatrat> Erealz, theres a seperate channel for that. #ubuntu-effects
[05:19] <w1jrm> can anyone anwser my questing that i asked about 22-25 lines up
[05:19] <AMAG> In case you folks are wondering about my on-going 3ware/ubuntu saga, i am now repartitioning my array because the partitioner in the installer failed and somehow the filesystems became corrupt!
[05:19] <ewood> Chankster: Oh, I didn't know that existed. Don't they have notes about your model on there?
[05:19] <Erealz> I fallowed the it to the T
[05:19] <Erealz> it works
[05:19] <Erealz> but
[05:19] <Erealz> it crash?...
[05:20] <kitche> !enter|Eraelz anywyas you want #ubuntu-effects channel
[05:20] <ubotu> Eraelz anywyas you want #ubuntu-effects channel: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[05:20] <tim167> the command provoking the error : aclocal --forcve -I config/m4, any ideas ?
[05:20] <Erealz> now im not sure why that is...is couse I don't have enough ram  or what
[05:20] <shatrat> Erealz, lots of people have had problems with latest release.  You can download to an earlier one by forcing version in synaptic
[05:20] <tim167> correction : the command provoking the error : aclocal --force -I config/m4, any ideas ?
[05:20] <Chankster> ewood: i haven't found anything there
[05:20] <Erealz> is that right
[05:20] <shatrat> Im always right, dear.
[05:20] <kitche> tim167: is there a configure file?
[05:20] <quaal> does anyone know why a working ntfs mount would all of a sudden take a dump and stop working
[05:21] <tim167> kitchie, yes
[05:21] <kitche> quaal: because ntfs on linux is unstable
[05:21] <jwtodd> i just got my 8800 card working on 6.10 x64 ... but it looks (as in black screen) during screen saver. any ideas on how i can disable screensaver till i sort this out? when i go to the screensaver config ui, the screen locks. thx.
[05:21] <Erealz> now I suspect that it not my video card because if it was it wouldn't work in the first place right
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> kitche, so true
[05:21] <kitche> tim167: jsut use the configure script no need to run autogen.sh
[05:21] <quaal> kitche: i thought reading from ntfs was stable
[05:21] <quaal> just read/write was unstable
[05:21] <tim167> kitche: aaight :)
[05:21] <Erealz> alright
[05:21] <quaal> kitche, i unmounted and tried remounting the partition with no luck
[05:21] <liotari> hI ALL
[05:21] <Brime> Hay what Video Card are you all using? I'm a little sick of dealing with my ATI 9200...
[05:21] <quaal> what i must i do to fix it
[05:22] <Erealz> what the channel again so I can go their for the help I seek?
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> quaal, you should run a chkdisk on it from windows
[05:22] <Erealz> yes
[05:22] <AMAG> Brime, hard to go wrong with nvidia
[05:22] <Erealz> that what im running
[05:22] <quaal> Brime,  i have a geforce 6800
[05:22] <shatrat> Erealz, ubuntu-effects
[05:22] <quaal> nomasteryoda, hmm
[05:22] <Erealz> crusial ati 9200 radion
[05:22] <w1jrm> ok i will ask again can anyone help me with a monitor/graphic issue
[05:22] <kitche> quaal: not really well it works but doesn't mean it's stable
[05:22] <jwtodd> i have an asus en8800gtx
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> quaal, that is my experience...
[05:22] <kitche> Erealz: #ubuntu-effects
[05:22] <bobby_> how can I stop Ubuntu from putting an icon on my desktop everytime i mount something?
[05:22] <quaal> nomasteryoda, does linux not have a chkdisk equivalent?
[05:22] <Erealz> is their a problem with ati 9200 radeon
[05:22] <Erealz> ?
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> when ubuntu won't mount a drive, it has errors... and those must be fixed first
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> fsck
[05:23] <quaal> hmm
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> but no read/write on the windows disk
[05:23] <quaal> but fsck runs risk of ruining the partition
[05:23] <kitche> quaal: but it doesn't do anything for ntfs
[05:23] <quaal> right
[05:23] <AMAG> I just bought a 7600GT for a basically headless file server; may as well use something that works right.
[05:23] <quaal> ok i guess i'll have to boot to windows then
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> er, not if it has no r/w permission
[05:23] <quaal> thanks guys
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> np
[05:23] <shatrat> AMAG, that crushes me emotionally.
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> lol
[05:23] <AMAG> Desktop has 7950GX2; need to upgrade to 8800GTX like jwtodd :)
[05:23] <Erealz> ok im off to the other room
[05:23] <Erealz> thnx anyways
[05:24] <AMAG> shatrat, l2buybettervideocard? :)
[05:24] <sammyf> hey there
[05:24] <sammyf> anybody can help with an error when booting?
[05:24] <sammyf> I'm getting GRUB ERROR 17
[05:24] <liotari> Hi all, I have a problem with my flash drive. as i insert it, it is writen PROLIFIC USB-Flash-Disk. What should I do then??
[05:24] <Brime> Ok i'll have a look at nvidia.... Just got moneys from work... :)
[05:24] <kitche> sammyf: cna you get your /boot/grub/menu.lst and pastebin it
[05:24] <jwtodd> ahhhh come on in ... the water is ... ?fine?
[05:24] <jwtodd> :)
[05:25] <bobby_> how can I stop Ubuntu from putting an icon on my desktop everytime i mount something?
[05:25] <sammyf> kitche: one sec
[05:25] <AMAG> Brime, what do you use your computer for?
[05:25] <Omer> Hey
[05:25] <kitche> liotari: should automount just have to figure out where it automounts to
[05:25] <Acu> I want to watch the apprentice from NBC -  I need a working FLASH PLayer in either Firefox (Iceweasel) or Konqueror - using synaptics you get confuse of plugins for flash and nothing works - is any solution for this ?
[05:25] <Brime> AMAG my main desktop
[05:25] <Omer> Anyone have any screenshots of ubuntu?
[05:25] <AMAG> Brime, do you play video games or anything that really requires a powerful 3d accelerator?
[05:25] <Omer> ...?
[05:26] <jwtodd> anyone know the commandline config option to turn off screensaver?
[05:26] <liotari> kitche: How can I do that?
[05:26] <kitche> Omer: http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=751&slide=4
[05:26] <kitche> liotari: type in mount and see if something is mounted that wasn't
[05:26] <Omer> Thanks
[05:27] <sammyf> kitche: hmm ... /boot/grub/menu.lst doesn't exist, I looked for it on hda1, which should be my C drive if I'm not mistaken, but it doesn't seem to be there :/
[05:27] <Brime> AMAG, I still have Windozs for all my steam games so, It would be nice... but I only have a $150 limit...
[05:27] <kitche> sammyf: did you mount your ubuntu drive?
[05:28] <sammyf> kitche: everything worked fine, until I had this stupid idea to start partitionmagic8 in WIndows :/
[05:28] <sammyf> kitche: oops
[05:28] <sammyf> kitche: one sec
[05:28] <kitche> anyways it would be boot/grub/menu.lst not /boot
[05:28] <Brime> AMAG, that and i'd like to have a "smooth" Beryl setup
[05:28] <liotari> Kitche: Impossible. it is writen can't find it
[05:28] <AMAG> Brime, I gave $135 for this 7600GT from newegg.com; but honestly you may want to wait for the nvidia 8-series boards to come down in price, because I think there are fancy new DirectX features supported by the 8-series chip which the 7-series doesn't have.
[05:28] <tim167> for file-browsing i am using Nautilus, but is is -incredibly- slow, I'm looking for a -fast- and -light- alternative
[05:29] <Contrition> ok, I'm trying to install and keep getting /bin/sh : can't access tty: job control turned off, checked alot of places but couldn't find an answer wondering what's wrong help would be appreciated
[05:29] <Brime> AMAG, Hay thats a good tip... Thanks I think I'll do that :)
[05:29] <AMAG> The cheapest 8-series cards today are still close to $400
[05:30] <brandon> Could anyone help me with a sound problem in Ubuntu?
[05:30] <liotari> Can anyone tell me how to format  usb Flash Drive?
[05:30] <AMAG> But six months from now they may be within your budget
[05:30] <AMAG> Brime, does your mainboard have PCI-e slots?
[05:30] <AMAG> I don't know anything about ATI cards so I am not familar with your current video board
[05:31] <liotari> Can anyone tell me how to format  usb Flash Drive???
[05:31] <Brime> AMAG, no... T_T I was thinking of upgrading my mother board too....
[05:31] <OneOfTheMany> liotari: you format it just like any other drive
[05:31] <AMAG> All the new graphics cards are PCI-e. :/
[05:31] <OneOfTheMany> liotari: fdisk /dev/your-device
[05:31] <tim167> lotari: right-click > format ?
[05:31] <sammyf> kitche: hmm ... boot/grub/menu.lst doesn't exist .... and in /boot/grub there is only a file called device.map
[05:32] <OneOfTheMany> if thats available, yes
[05:32] <brandon> ALSA is at version 1.0.14 and Ubuntu has 1.0.11.  When will this usually be updated?
[05:32] <OneOfTheMany> liotari: if thats available yes
[05:32] <AMAG> My philosophy with personal computers has always been upgrade big, but not very often.  That way I don't compromise and buy an old AGP card, for example, because my mainboard does not have PCI-e slots.
[05:32] <cafuego_> brandon: next release
[05:32] <kitche> sammyf: are you in the folder that you mounted your ubuntu filesystem?
[05:32] <brandon> My sound won't work, should I upgrade manually to try and fix it?
[05:32] <OneOfTheMany> liotari: or you can install gparted for a nice gui for partitioning and formatting drives
[05:32] <sammyf> kitche: in /  yes
[05:33] <sammyf> kitche: mounting that worked without problems
[05:33] <kitche> sammyf: are you in / or your mounted folder for ubuntu /
[05:33] <AMAG> My weekend project is replacing a dual Pentium II 350 with 256MB ram, which I bought in 1998; with a much newer system that has Intel E6600 CPU, 2GB ram, and a 2TB RAID. :)
[05:33] <sammyf> kitche: I am in /
[05:33] <kmitch87> AMAG: sweet:)
[05:33] <brandon> Is upgrading to the latest ALSA difficult, or does someone know a website for a tutorial for Ubuntu upgrade ALSA?
[05:34] <sammyf> kitche: I booted up using the liveCD
[05:34] <Brime> AMAG, wow that's.... old...
[05:34] <AMAG> What's the name of that ext2 filesystem debugging tool?
[05:34] <ReKlipz> brandon: sudo apt-get upgrade alsa
[05:34] <sammyf> kitche:  and then mounted my linux partition with mount /dev/hdd8 /
[05:34] <jwtodd> AMAG. that's the system i just migrated too mod the raid.
[05:34] <AMAG> Brime, yeah, file server and X client machine basically
[05:35] <tim167> is anyone at all using Nautilus ? did you notice for example that ctrl+c always fails the first time, so that you have to do it twice each time ...?
[05:35] <jwtodd> i have an e6600, en8800 nv card, 4gb mem, evga mb.
[05:35] <AMAG> I wouldn't bother upgrading honestly, except I can hear the hard disks in the PII-350 slowly failing :)
[05:35] <kitche> sammyf: umm ok you just mounted it wrong so I can't help you since you overrode the livecd's /
[05:35] <joe_> Can someone help me out, I installed beryl, after it crashed a few times, I uninstalled it, and now I am having problems with my windows manager
[05:36] <ReKlipz> i cant get a key to bind to open a terminal, ive tried lots of combinations and they never work
[05:36] <sammyf> kitche
[05:36] <AMAG> I bought 4GB memory for my windows machine and was very upset it will only utilize 2.75GB or some crap. :/
[05:36] <brandon> thanks reklipz
[05:36] <ReKlipz> brandon, no prob
[05:36] <sammyf> kitche: hmm .. sorry .. I'll be back in a mn ...I'll reboot
[05:36] <AMAG> Lack of PAE addressing support in Windows XP FTL :/
[05:36] <jwtodd> i hit up newegg.com last week :)
[05:36] <jwtodd> rocking site
[05:36] <sammyf> kitche: as you can guess, I'm rather noobish when it comes to Linux
[05:36] <joe_> for example, when I open firefox my menu panel disappears
[05:36] <sammyf> brb
[05:36] <jwtodd> i'm still having some screensaver/3d issues w/ my vcard. my hunch
[05:36] <AMAG> Yeah, I like newegg.  I have never tried to RMA anything to them, but their shipping is pretty fast.
[05:36] <lordkeiden> which would give better performance 1: single 7200rpm ide hard drive for all partitions   2: one 7200rpm ide hard drive for os, one 4200rpm hard drive for swap, connected to a usb to ide adapter on a usb 2.0 port? both driver are ata4
[05:37] <brandon> I did sudo apt-get upgrade ALSA and it didn't uprade "0 upgraded" I think because I have the latest version in the repos
[05:37] <jwtodd> the reviews on newegg are gold imho
[05:37] <Hmmmm> hi guys, i cant get the NetworkManager applet to work with my wifi setup
[05:37] <jwtodd> i mean product reviews
[05:37] <ReKlipz> brandon, try: sudo apt-get remove alsa
[05:37] <ReKlipz> sudo apt-get install alsa
[05:37] <tim167> so what filebrowsers are you using on ubuntu ? anyone using rox ?
[05:37] <Hirvinen> lordkeiden: If you plan on using your swap partition you have way too little memory.
[05:37] <joe_> the main menu panel is replaced by my application menus, and I also my application bar does not show any applications
[05:38] <brandon> won't that only take the latest version from the repos though?
[05:38] <AMAG> Some of the reviews are silly.  I read a review on the mainboard i bought and it claimed the crucial.com ram wouldn't work, but I bought it anyway because I've been using crucial for so long.  Works fine for me.
[05:38] <ReKlipz> brandon, ya
[05:38] <brandon> I have that version, but on the ALSA website, 1.0.14 RC2 is out
[05:38] <ReKlipz> i'm kind of noob to linux, so don't necessarilly take my advice
[05:38] <brandon> latest version in Repos is 1.0.11
[05:38] <ReKlipz> you'll have to compile from the source then
[05:38] <jwtodd> i m sure there is noise in there but in general it was helpful
[05:38] <lordkeiden> Hirvinen: how do u know how much ram I have?
[05:39] <luckyone> is installing mythtv as simple as 'sudo apt-get install mythtv'?
[05:39] <ReKlipz> im running beryl on an 8MB integrated gfx and 128MB ram, works like a charm
[05:39] <kmitch87> lordkeiden: open a terminal and do 'free -m'
[05:39] <ReKlipz> luckyone, i think so
[05:39] <jwtodd> whoa. nice.
[05:39] <luckyone> ReKlipz: gulp, here goes nuthin
[05:39] <kmitch87> lordkeiden: the result is your ram in mb
[05:40] <AMAG> awesome, e2fsck blew away every directory in my /usr filesystem
[05:40] <liotari> OneOfTheMany: I do not see anytthing in /dev/ relating to my usb flash
[05:40] <Hirvinen> lordkeiden: All I'm saying about your amount of ram is that unless your use of the swap partition is very infrequent, you have too little.
[05:41] <Hirvinen> lordkeiden: The purpose of swap is to be a safety net that keeps the machine running even when it runs out of memory, not to serve as memory.
[05:41] <Hirvinen> It's way too slow for that.
[05:42] <nonickforme> Anyone know why when i try to save files greater in size than a few kb to my samba share, it locks up for a good minute or two?
[05:42] <nonickforme> It does save the file, but it takes ages.
[05:42] <nonickforme> Anything tiny is almost instant like it should be
[05:42] <OneOfTheMany> liotari: sec..
[05:42] <TravisivarT2> does anyone know if the bleeding edge NVIDIA and ATI driver repository is down right now?
[05:43] <sammyf> kitche: hi ... sorry for being such a pain ... so how shoudl I install it?
[05:43] <lordkeiden> I'm a ex-windows guy (thanks Vista). does linux not need swap if I have enough ram?
[05:43] <sammyf> kitche: mount I mean
[05:43] <lordkeiden> like 2gb?
[05:43] <shredder_> How do I reset my screen/font size. I applied a theme and Bam! I have supper giant font size and I can't figure how to fix?
[05:43] <tim167> Please check that wx-config is in path, the directory    where wxWidgets libraries are installed (returned by     'wx-config --libs' or 'wx-config --static --libs' command)   is in LD_LIBRARY_PATH or equivalent variable and     wxWidgets version is 2.6.0 or above     ---->  how do i do that ?
[05:43] <ReKlipz> lordkeiden, i think you always need a swap, not sure though
[05:43] <kitche> sammyf: do this sudo mount /dev/hdd8 /media/ubuntu make sure that /media/ubuntu exists
[05:43] <AMAG> ubuntu should really install a tftp client in /bin :/
[05:43] <ReKlipz> shredder,  system->preferences->font
[05:44] <ReKlipz> !swap
[05:44] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[05:44] <shredder_> thanks I will give it a try
[05:44] <sammyf> kitche: okay.. done
[05:44] <kitche> sammyf: go to /media/ubuntu/boot/grub
[05:45] <madar> Hello looking for some help with software raid and device nodes
[05:45] <ReKlipz> anyone know why i cant get the terminal hotkey shortcut to work?
[05:45] <madar> I have some md devices in .static/dev can I just  use these in my raidtab?
[05:46] <sammyf> kitche: done. menu.lst is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4219/
[05:46] <madar> I've always had md devices listed under /dev in the past but they aren't there by default it seems with breezy
[05:46] <lordkeiden> will linux use swap if there is enough ram to meet it's needs?
[05:47] <kitche> sammyf: so /dev/hdd8 is your / right and it's on your third hard drive
[05:47] <sammyf> kitche: yes
[05:47] <kitche> lordkeiden: no it will touch swap only if it needs to
[05:47] <kitche> sammyf: your root should be root (hd2,7)
[05:47] <lordkeiden> that explains y this lappy is so snappy!
[05:47] <ReKlipz> !install fonts
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install fonts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <madar> !raid
[05:48] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[05:48] <ReKlipz> !font
[05:48] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[05:48] <lordkeiden> does linux use swap to hibernate?
[05:48] <sammyf> kitche: how can I change that? is it enough to edit menu.lst?
[05:49] <kitche> sammyf: yes just edit menu.lst with sudo gedit /media/ubuntu/boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:49] <tim167> how do i install wxWidgets ?
[05:49] <OneOfTheMany> liotari: take a look at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=296219
[05:49] <sammyf> kitche: thanks a lot! I hope not to be here in the next minutes or so ... if I'm not then it worked :)
[05:51] <lordkeiden> ubotu: hibernate
[05:51] <ubotu> hibernate: smartly puts your computer to sleep (suspend to RAM or disk). In component universe, is extra. Version 1.91-2 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 364 kB
[05:51] <madbox> I am using ubuntu and whenever I want to save something to my other HD's that are partitionned for Windows ... it tells me they are read only
[05:51] <madbox> any way to fix this?
[05:52] <lordkeiden> does linux use swap to hibernate?
[05:52] <Vuen> madbox: if they are using the NTFS filesystem, there isn't really
[05:52] <AMAG> Okay, I'm sure this is a stupid question, but the ubuntu partitioning tool in the installer script cannot deal with this array I have
[05:52] <madbox> ah ok
[05:52] <madbox> thx
[05:52] <GreyGhost> madbox ,if u use ntfs ..let it be that way..
[05:52] <sammyf> cya .. or not :)
[05:52] <tomcatt> hibernate?  was that ever fixed?
[05:52] <Vuen> madbox: writing to ntfs within linux isn't really safe
[05:52] <AMAG> Yet I can't seem to get "install the base system" going without the stupid partitioning menu coming up
[05:52] <Vuen> lordkeiden: yes
[05:52] <madbox> alright, good enough, THx guys
[05:52] <Hirvinen> !ntfs
[05:52] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[05:52] <Hirvinen> !ntfs-3g
[05:52] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[05:52] <Vuen> lordkeiden: you can configure it not to if you want (for example, if you are dual-booting two linux distributions and they are sharing swap space
[05:52] <madbox> thx
[05:52] <Vuen> )
[05:53] <GreyGhost> madbox ,but if u do have an extra partition u could format it to FAT32  and share it between Ubuntu and Windows..
[05:53] <lordkeiden> tomcatt: my lappy hibernates flawlesly with feisty , and it did also with edgy
[05:53] <LinX> hey guys who needs help
[05:53] <GreyGhost> yeah i dont cosider that ntfs-3g safe....
[05:53] <Vuen> madbox, GreyGhost: you can also format it Ext2, and use the EXT2IFS filesystem driver for windows. that's what i do
[05:54] <GreyGhost> Vuen , yeah but that adds one more tool to downalod ... ;)
[05:54] <Vuen> meh
[05:54] <Vuen> it's worth it for ext2. vfat sucks
[05:54] <tomcatt> lordkeiden:  I know when I got started with ubuntu, it never worked for my notebook.  then I tested out opensuse for a few weeks and it worked.
[05:54] <lordkeiden> Vuen: i can configure it to not use swap to hibernate? will it then use non-swap hard drive space for the hibernate file?
[05:55] <GreyGhost> Vuen ,oh well ... who cares... i rarely ever transfer files from Ubuntu to my windows...
[05:55] <Vuen> lordkeiden: yeah, it'll write the hibernate to a file on the root filesystem.
[05:55] <Vuen> lordkeiden: i don't know how to configure this, only that it can be done.
[05:55] <madbox> how do i enable ident in xchat
[05:55] <madbox> i got the ports forwarded..
[05:55] <liotari> OneOfTheMany: thanks
[05:56] <lordkeiden> Vuen: does the space for the hibernate file need to be contiguous?
[05:56] <loa_dude> hi.  i just installed 6.06.  it there a way to hide disk (filesystem/volume) icons on the desktop?
[05:56] <cafuego_> loa_dude: yes
[05:56] <OneOfTheMany> liotari: just be careful you format the correct thing ;) good luck !
[05:56] <Vuen> lordkeiden: i doubt it... these are very strange questions. if you don't mind me asking, why are you trying to configure it this way?
[05:56] <LinX> Does anyone have op here?
[05:57] <tim167> loa_dude: install fluxbox ;)
[05:57] <lordkeiden> tomcatt: for me hibernate is handy, but i can live with just suspend.
[05:57] <loa_dude> can you tell me cafuego?
[05:57] <Vuen> loa_dude: yes, hold on
[05:57] <LinX>  no i think amarok is the best
[05:57] <loa_dude> ok
[05:57] <cafuego_> loa_dude: No, I can't rememebr - but it know it can be done <heh>
[05:57] <tomcatt> lordkeiden:  i'm back with ubuntu now but i'll see if the hibernate works.
[05:57] <LinX>   i recommed dual booting with pcbsd
[05:57] <Vuen> loa_dude: hmm, i don't know. can't seem to find it. i use kde, sorry
[05:58] <tomcatt> lordkeiden:  opensuse 10.2 is so nice, but there some things that i don't like it about.
[05:58] <loa_dude> vuen, i am using the default knome... how do you do it in kde?
[05:58] <tomcatt> lordkeiden:  but that will have to be for another time.
[05:58] <tim167> loa_dude i was just partly kidding, i use fluxbox, doesnt have any icons on the desktop to start with
[05:58] <kishore> which one is the best burning software in linux
[05:59] <LinX> k3b
[05:59] <fr500> kishore: brasero, gnomebaker, both are good
[05:59] <kitche> kishore: k3b even though it is a kde app
[05:59] <fr500> others use graveman
[05:59] <fr500> k3b
[05:59] <lordkeiden> Vuen: I am installing 2gb of ram this week and want to be sure I done cause problems doing so. i also want to be sure this lappy stays snappy, so I'm asking now so if I hit a problem, I might have a clue of how things should work.
[05:59] <LinX> kishore: k3b by far the best
[05:59] <tomcatt> lordkeiden:  i need to reboot, new updates.  take care.
[05:59] <loa_dude> ok dudes.  gonna dig around some more.... thx anyways
[05:59] <fr500> LinX: how come?
[05:59] <cafuego_> kishore: `cdrecord' - it's the only one there is.
[05:59] <lordkeiden> tomcatt: k. bye 4 now
[05:59] <cyphase> i just spent about an hour trying to fix my account
[06:00] <cafuego_> kishore: All the others are just frontends.
[06:00] <tomcatt> :)
[06:00] <LinX> kishore: just its ease to use and it can do so many formats and i like its ISO image part
[06:00] <Vuen> lordkeiden: i see. so you want to hibernate it to change the ram? changing hardware on a hibernated system is a supremely bad idea...
[06:00] <LinX> lordkeiden: why dont you just shut it down to change ram?
[06:00] <Vuen> lordkeiden: if not, just shut it down, add the ram, turn it back on. i don't see how this would affect hibernation.
[06:00] <kitche> cafuego_: ah I forgot to say cdrecord since that is the only thing that matters and works if you know how to use it
[06:01] <sammyf> kitche: sigh ... didn't work
[06:01] <sammyf> kitche: one sec ... pasting fdisk -l and the edited menu.lst
[06:02] <lordkeiden> Vuen: yes it is. No, i'll shut down for the upgrade. when I change from 512mb to 2gb, the space needed for hibernate will also grow, I assume. I want to be sure that I am covered. my swap is 2.7gb, so I should be ok to hibernate even on a heavily loaded desktop...
[06:02] <Vuen> lordkeiden: oh, i understand now.
[06:03] <Vuen> lordkeiden: yeah, you should be fine. your computer won't catch fire or anything if it runs out of space while hibernating
[06:03] <sammyf> kitche: fdisk -l is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4222/ and menu.lst at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4223/
[06:03] <LinX> lordkeiden: so what was your prooblem with shuting down?
[06:03] <arustyspork> can somebody join #ubuntu-ohio and see why I was banned I have been on there for like 2 days and have just been helping ppl. Thnx
[06:03] <LinX>  i will arusty
[06:04] <lordkeiden> Vuen: well, it can stop u from logging in.
[06:04] <TravisivarT2> how do i get sound for a ABIT AW9D-MAX onboard sound card?
[06:04] <arustyspork> LinX: Thanks
[06:04] <kitche> sammyf: to me that looks correct
[06:04] <sammyf> kitche: sigh
[06:05] <rainwalker> Does anyone know how to get shortcuts that I have set in Amarok to work while it is minimized into the system tray or while window focus is on something else?
[06:05] <lordkeiden> LinX: no problem shutting it down. just want to be sure not to break something in the upgrade
[06:05] <sammyf> kitche: dunno ... could it be the fact that hdd8 isn't boot-enabled?
[06:05] <kitche> sammyf: no that shouldn't matter
[06:05] <LinX> lordkeiden: why would it break it by changing ram?
[06:06] <sammyf> kitche: as I said : the only thing I did was to reboot in WinXP and start up partitionmagic8 ... and GuildWars  .. but I don't think THAT should be the problem ;)
[06:06] <kitche> sammyf: hmm partitionmagic8 might have done something but hard to tell
[06:06] <shad0w1e> :
[06:06] <shad0w1e> :
[06:06] <shad0w1e> :
[06:06] <shad0w1e> :
[06:07] <lordkeiden> LinX: if the increase in ran were to cause me to run to 0b of disk space....kabLUEEEeeee!
[06:07] <sammyf> kitche: yep ... partitionmagic is my main suspect at the moment, although I didn't actually change anything with it this time
[06:07] <GMWeezel> How do I change my log in screen resolution and frequency?
[06:07] <LinX> lordkeiden i dont ge how more ram takes up more space on hd?
[06:07] <sammyf> kitche: is there a way to reinstall grub without having to reinstall ubuntu?
[06:07] <cafuego_> sudo apt-get install --reinstall grub
[06:08] <kitche> !grub|sammyf try one of these links
[06:08] <ubotu> sammyf try one of these links: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:08] <shad0w1e> :
[06:08] <sammyf> kitche: cafuego: thanks
[06:08] <madbox> what is a program that derars..
[06:08] <madbox> I got a rar file
[06:08] <kitche> unrar-free and unrar-nonfree
[06:08] <madbox> but it wont open..
[06:08] <madbox> kk
[06:08] <madbox> thx
[06:08] <drivera90>
[06:09] <lordkeiden> LinX: to hibernate, you need space=to ram. I'm adding 1.5gb of ram, a healthy jump for the swap partition to hold.
[06:09] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !rar | madbox
[06:09] <ubotu> madbox: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:09] <Bsims> I am following the advice here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114946 and ffmpeg fails on ./config with --enable-x264 any ideas
[06:09] <cafuego_> Bsims: Download and install my ffmpeg package; it works - I use it daily :-)
[06:09] <LinX> lordjeiden  oh yeh i get it coz u gotta have like swap = ram x2
[06:09] <netsrot> Hi, sometimes when I boot the sound doesn't work, it usually work again if I reboot, is there any way I can restart sound system without rebooting?
[06:09] <LinX> lordjeiden: or x3
[06:09] <Bsims> cafuego_: url
[06:09] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> LinX , ;)
[06:10] <cafuego_> Bsims: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/
[06:10] <LinX> Yes GreyGhost?
[06:10] <TravisivarT2> !sound
[06:10] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[06:10] <GMWeezel> How do I change my log in screen resolution and frequency? (Let me know if I'm spamming)
[06:10] <madbox> ok i got unrar free
[06:10] <madbox> how do i unrar this file?
[06:10] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> LinX ,spammers deserve smelly trouts .
[06:11] <kitche> !fixres|GMWeezel
[06:11] <ubotu> GMWeezel: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:11] <Digerati> is there a keyboard shortcut to get to terminal?
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[06:11] <tonyyarusso> Digerati: you can set one
[06:11] <GMWeezel> Thx.
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[06:11] <BHSPitMonkey> !ops
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[06:11] <Hobbsee> oops
[06:11] <st00ner> lol
[06:11] <BHSPitMonkey> hehehe
[06:11] <cafuego_> alt-F2 -> gegls from outer space
[06:11] <narg> eh?
[06:11] <Svenstaro> happy hightlighting
[06:11] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> !paste | IPKnightly
[06:11] <ubotu> IPKnightly: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:12] <bruenig> GreyGhost-Ubuntu, lol
[06:12] <shatrat> I thought someone cared about me for a moment.
[06:12] <ewood> Hm
[06:12] <Svenstaro> lool
[06:12] <Hobbsee> GreyGhost-Ubuntu: they shouldnt have been pasting that anyway
[06:12] <Crescendo> ...?
[06:12] <ewood> What's that IPKnightly character up to, now?
[06:12] <Hobbsee> hey LinX
[06:12] <Hobbsee> ewood: spamming
[06:12] <Hobbsee> LinX: yeah, they are
[06:12] <Crescendo> That was an interruption to my work cycle.
[06:12] <ewood> It's a spammer or it's battling spammers?
[06:12] <Crescendo> I'm suing.
[06:12] <bryroz> My right arrow key and my keypad do not work.  Ive tried to different keyboards, and the same thing happens.  They work fine on other computers.  Could this be a firmware issue?
[06:12] <LinX> Dont you all think spammers should get a life
[06:13] <poningru> gaah
[06:13] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> Hobbsee ,oh k..i didnt read it..i thought it was a log or something :)
[06:13] <kitche> bryroz: is your numlock on?
[06:13] <bryroz> dosnt matter
[06:13] <ewood> Well, I don't know why spammers bother, to be sure. No one's about to seriously consider a spammer's ads or anything.
[06:13] <bryroz> either way nothing works except the 6 key and the right arrow dosnt work
[06:13] <LinX> i no they do it that fast you can see that they are doing anyway
[06:14] <shatrat> ewood, some spammers make millions.
[06:14] <kitche> bryroz: sounds like a bad keyboard for linux
[06:14] <GreyGhost-Ubuntu> i think i've seen IPKnightly around here helping ppl out ..
[06:14] <LinX> shatrat really million how>
[06:14] <bryroz> ive tried to different keyboards, and they used to work fine.
[06:14] <elkbuntu> ewood, dont you just find that "chep v1@ga" so very tempting
[06:14] <ewood> shatrat: I expect those revenues come not from the spamees, but from companies who pay them without knowing they're using spam to get the job done. What do you say?
[06:15] <LinX> ewood thats spot on there
[06:15] <ewood> elkbuntu: Admittedly, i have a mild curiosity as to what it is.
[06:15] <shatrat> LinX, only a very small fraction of the people you reach need to actually click through your link to low rate mortgages or whatever if youre sending out gigs and gigs of spam
[06:15] <mobile> hello.  how can i prevent the totem mozilla plugin from automatically playing audio files?  sometimes i want to download them, not play them.
[06:15] <narg> It's sad reflection on humanity that sending stuff like that to people actually is profitable; no one should fall for such things
[06:15] <yellow> bryroz, do you have apcid running ?
[06:15] <LinX> shatrat yeh i spose if 1% of people click the link and millions sent thats alot of money
[06:15] <shatrat> ewood, the fact is consumers tend to be idiots, and there are plenty of people who will actually buy from these companies.  enough to buy a successful spammer a mercedes and a russian wife.
[06:15] <dbglt> my X server crashes whenever I adjust my laptop screen's brightness up or down. Any ideas what could be causing this?
[06:16] <LinX> shatrat: lol russin wife
[06:16] <bryroz> I dont know
[06:16] <ewood> shatrat: I'd like a Russian wife. Are they expensive?
[06:16] <dbglt> ewood: depends which model you purchase.
[06:16] <LinX> Nah Sweedish wife !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:16] <dbglt> ;)
[06:16] <shatrat> only the good looking <ones who can cook and have teeth
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> !offtopic
[06:16] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[06:16] <bryroz> a bit new to linux, i just have some nice friends who pointed me in the right direction.  Thank God.
[06:16] <Digerati> the video is a bit choppy, like when i scroll through a webpage. i was told that my nvidia graphics card is supported with edgy without installing anything. how can i be sure?
[06:16] <mysta> anyone prefer gstreamer fluendo over gstreamer ugly/
[06:16] <ewood> LinX: I saw a cute Swedish girl on OKCupid. She also likes Americans. Heehee
[06:16] <kitche> tonyyarusso: you beat me to it :(
[06:17] <netsrot> I have a builtin sndcard and a pci that I want to use, but sometimes when I boot it selects the mobo snd =(
[06:17] <LinX> netsrot: priotty issuse i think
[06:17] <netsrot> LinX: how do I solve it? =)
[06:17] <mysta> Or should I say what does everyone prefer for MP3 playback, gstreamer ugly or gstreamer fluendo???
[06:18] <LinX> netsrot: i have no idea i was trying to give u some hop
[06:18] <LinX> hope*
[06:18] <ewood> dbglt: i think I'd want a spendy model.
[06:19] <[Alex_G] > later everyone, I'm off
[06:19] <kitche> netsrot: alsaconf should let you choose what sound card you want to use
[06:19] <netsrot> I have been having so much trouble with udev, been trying to read much about it but just don't get it.
[06:19] <ewood> dbglt: Although speaking English is optional
[06:19] <AMAG> Man I'll tell you what, the ubuntu installer is enough to make anyone cry and choose something else.  This is garbage l?
[06:19] <AMAG> :/
[06:19] <LinX> ewood: i definetly dont want my wife chewing all my credit card up
[06:19] <bryroz> anyone have suggestions?
[06:19] <mobile> how do i stop totem mozilla plugin from playing things automatically instead of asking if i want to download?
[06:19] <kitche> AMAG: the live cd? I prefer the "debian" installer
[06:19] <ewood> LinX: Probably safest not to have credit cards...
[06:19] <padge> Is anyone familiar with proftpd and gproftpd?
[06:20] <netsrot> LinX: you think I could solve it by configurating udev stuff?
[06:20] <AMAG> live cd won't boot for me; alternate one does, but the install scripts partitioning portion = fails with > 2TB volume
[06:20] <LinX> ewood: then you dont have her thats the only reason a hot modle stays!
[06:20] <blendernewbie> pwople
[06:20] <[Alex_G] > AS I WAS saying, I'm leaving now, bye
[06:20] <blendernewbie> Isomone been spammin here?
[06:20] <alim> automatix rocks
[06:20] <ewood> LinX: Sadly, I tend to have impossible goals
[06:20] <alim> hehe
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> !automatix
[06:20] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[06:20] <LinX> netsrot: i dont really no to much about that i think it would be better suited to asking someone elso or going to www.ubuntuforums.org
[06:20] <[Alex_G] > blendernewbie: yeah
[06:20] <blendernewbie> ass
[06:20] <kitche> alim: until you upgrade :)
[06:20] <blendernewbie> .........
[06:20] <ewood> Wow, Linux actually finished downloading. Time to see if it'll burn.
[06:20] <[Alex_G] > blendernewbie, get back in the old room
[06:21] <[Alex_G] > you kinda missed it
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> !ohmy | blendernewbie
[06:21] <padge> I'm getting a problem trying to start proftpd with gproftpd...  In some .conf file it says there's no such group 'nobody'
[06:21] <ubotu> blendernewbie: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[06:21] <padge> Anyone have any idea what I can do?
[06:21] <LinX> ewood: have you tryed unix i duel boot i recommend it!
[06:21] <netsrot> ok thanks, I will try the alsaconf first if I can find it.
[06:21] <Bsims> Darn it I get unknown codec aac when I try to convert it using the script here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114946 Any ideas?
[06:21] <blendernewbie> o aoni aint do nothin..
[06:22] <blendernewbie> asses
[06:22] <lordkeiden> !WorksForMe
[06:22] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[06:22] <ewood> LinX: Whatever are you talking about?
[06:22] <[Alex_G] > ARGH! Jeez! I am going now!  I'm running ubuntu 6.10
[06:23] <blendernewbie> BITCHES.
[06:23] <blendernewbie> U GUYS ARE IDIDOTS
[06:23] <LinX> lordkeiden: corsair??
[06:23] <Digerati> im following this tutorial and its not working, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[06:23] <Digerati> on edgy
[06:24] <dtvarnum> I tried to use the herd 3 distro and it wouldn't bootup....
[06:24] <kitche> netstrtr: should be installed with alsa
[06:24] <LinX> lordkeiden: you should get kingston ram its a bit dearer but lifetime warrenty and they stick by it!
[06:24] <lordkeiden> LinX: do you meen brand of ram? cruicle
[06:24] <ewood> Trying to use Gnome Baker, but...
[06:24] <ewood> Executing 'builtin_dd if=/home/ewood/Desktop/FC-6-ppc-DVD.iso of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0'
[06:24] <ewood> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[06:24] <ewood> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[06:24] <ewood> :-( /dev/hdc: unable to proceed with recording: unable to unmount
[06:24] <kitche> !away|LinX
[06:24] <ubotu> LinX: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> !paste | ewood
[06:24] <LinX> i brb posting on forum
[06:24] <ubotu> ewood: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[06:25] <cafuego_> ewood: What are you doing !?
[06:25] <ewood> I wish to burn the Fedora DVD.
[06:25] <bryroz> Two keyboards.  Right arrow key does not work on either.  Keypad does not work on one, but they both work on other computers.  And they both used to work on mine.  Any suggestions?
[06:25] <Digerati> tonyyarusso: know what im doing wrong?
[06:25] <cafuego_> ewood: use cdrecord, not dd
[06:25] <lordkeiden> LinX: didn't know kingston had that...i muct look into it.
[06:25] <LinX> hey whats the command to change your name???
[06:25] <ewood> I guess that GUI app is not so smart, then?
[06:25] <cafuego_> ewood: or gnomebaker...
[06:25] <ewood> I'm in gnomebaker.
[06:25] <yellow> bryroz,  check apcid
[06:25] <ewood> I say burn DVD ISO. I have the disc in and I say burn.
[06:25] <LinX> lordkeiden yeh it does and its 10 us dollar dearer
[06:26] <LinX> hey how do i change my name on irc
[06:26] <tonyyarusso> Digerati: looks like you need to install it.  'sudo aptitude install nvidia-xconfig'