[00:00] <Artimus> Tonren: You know nothing about Microsoft
[00:00] <Artimus> At all
[00:00] <Schuenemann> bug free? ha ha ha...
[00:00] <Schuenemann> typical FUD going on
[00:01] <Artimus> Ever hear someone apologize for Vista?  "Can I burn a DVD in Nero on your box?" "No, Vista doesn't work with Nero yet...".  You release a product that's good enough to not drive your customers away.  If it's easier for them to stick with your software than switch to someone else's, you keep them as a customer.
[00:02] <BluesKaj> Balmer is threatening the open source community with lawsuits again...c'mon steve put yer money where yer mouth is !
[00:02] <Schuenemann_away> jack balmer?
[00:02] <Tonren> Artimus: Look, I'm not saying that closed source is inherently superior or any nonsense like that.  I'm just saying that open & closed source both have their own pros and cons.
[00:02] <ardchoille> !ot
[00:02] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[00:04] <BluesKaj> steve balmer
[00:04] <BluesKaj> MS head honcho
[00:04] <Artimus> BluesKaj: This isn't Kubuntu related, ardchoille is correct...  Discussion should be taken to #kubuntu-offtopic
[00:05] <Artimus> Although I'm not seeing a whole lot of questions at the moment.  Someone ask something...
[00:05] <BluesKaj> oops ...my apologies...got carried away :)
[00:06] <ardchoille> The absence of support questions is irrelevent, ot is ot.
[00:06] <BluesKaj> geez, it's christmas....
[00:07] <hydrogen> christianity is off topic
[00:07] <hydrogen> .
[00:08] <paperfunk> haha
[00:08] <BluesKaj> Jesus would use linux...absolutely !
[00:08] <paperfunk> there is no one in kubuntu offtopic
[00:08] <paperfunk> jesus is open source
[00:09] <hydrogen> and what in the world does that have to do with kubuntu support?
[00:09] <hydrogen> unless you want help installing jesus on your machine
[00:10] <hagabaka> how do I do that?
[00:10] <Tonren> "Bless this thy kernel, father"
[00:11] <BluesKaj> tried the opera bowser but it's not doing java sites too well, and I've done all the tutorial stuff that's relavent ...i think
[00:11] <numpy> LOL
[00:11] <BluesKaj> java-heavy
[00:12] <Artimus> ardchoille: Correct, it is offtopic.  But I hate seeing a dead channel.  In abscence of OT, someone should ask something to give us something to do...
[00:12] <numpy> ..install Jesus
[00:12] <numpy> haha
[00:12] <numpy> sorry.. that was great
[00:12] <BluesKaj> until the flashplugin is fixed for firefox I 'm not bothering with it ... konq is the one for now
[00:12] <paperfunk> how do you toggle to a terminal?
[00:13] <paperfunk> like complete terminal mode, not in x
[00:13] <numpy> cntl-alt Fx paperfunk
[00:13] <paperfunk> doesnt work
[00:13] <ardchoille> paperfunk: ctrl+alt+f1
[00:13] <BluesKaj> ctrl+alt+F2
[00:13] <Artimus> I'm guessing that worked
[00:14] <Artimus> So, did you guys think to tell him how to get BACK?
[00:14] <BluesKaj> f2 works fer me
[00:14] <BluesKaj> he din't ask
[00:14] <Artimus> ...
[00:14] <Artimus> I hope he at least tries "Ctrl+Alt+Del" instead of using the power button...
[00:14] <ardchoille> Artimus: I didn't think of that, I'll have to remember that in the future
[00:14] <Artimus> His filesystem shouldn't have to suffer...
[00:14] <hydrogen> chvt 7
[00:14] <numpy> yeah good point
[00:15] <hydrogen> chvt 1
[00:15] <Artimus> hydrogen: I get more satisfaction from using the keys, personally
[00:15] <BluesKaj> paperfunk, to get back to the desktop ,ctrl+alt+F7
[00:15] <hydrogen> apparently you need to be root to do that however
[00:15] <hydrogen> thats kind of unexpected..
[00:16] <ueila> hii
[00:16] <Artimus> hydrogen: X runs as root...  You're messing with the box, not just your "session"
[00:16] <hydrogen> right
[00:16] <hydrogen> but its still unexpected
[00:16] <hydrogen> that you need root
[00:16] <hydrogen> to change between virtual terminals
[00:16] <BluesKaj> I assume paperfunk is using a terminal/TTY irc client like irssi
[00:17] <ardchoille> hydrogen: You don't need to be root to change tty's
[00:17] <numpy> welp looks like paperfunk got lost..
[00:17] <hydrogen> ardchoille: yes, you do
[00:17] <hydrogen> try it
[00:17] <hydrogen> chvt 1
[00:17] <hydrogen> as a user
[00:17] <ardchoille> hydrogen: Just tried it works fine as a user.
[00:17] <hydrogen> ardchoille: how did you try it?
[00:17] <hydrogen> you tried chvt or the keys?
[00:17] <ardchoille> ctrl+alt+f1
[00:17] <Artimus> I get "Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console"
[00:18] <hydrogen> right
[00:18] <Artimus> ...
[00:18] <hydrogen> ardchoille: thats because the x server runs as root
[00:18] <Artimus> ardchoille: That's run as root
[00:18] <ardchoille> That's word play. Any normal user can switch tty's
[00:18] <Artimus> BluesKaj: If someone can't switch virtual terminals, there's a low chance they'd use irssi...
[00:18] <hydrogen> no
[00:18] <hydrogen> users can't switch ttys
[00:18] <hydrogen> you need root privledges
[00:18] <Artimus> ardchoille: No.  Anyone sitting at a keyboard can
[00:18] <BluesKaj> hmm my Xserver sucks ..it flickers like mad
[00:19] <hydrogen> to switch between virtual terminals
[00:19] <hydrogen> and I'm surprised at that
[00:19] <BluesKaj> on the TTY that is
[00:19] <hydrogen> but it doesn't change the fact
[00:19] <hydrogen> that you do
[00:19] <Artimus> BluesKaj: Gutsy, I'm guessing?
[00:19] <BluesKaj> yup
[00:19] <Artimus> I've had some issues with it too...
[00:20] <Artimus> Can't remember what I did, probably some ugly hack to fix it...
[00:20] <Artimus> Well, editing files.  Kind of ugly in the sense of "not user friendly, I wouldn't want to share this as practical advice"
[00:21] <BluesKaj> Artimus, well what did you do, just for curiosity's sake
[00:21] <TuxMan> I'm Back! that was some gooood homemade chili
[00:22] <Artimus> BluesKaj: I think I set vga=normal when I boot...  I tried another value, but there's *ANOTHER* Gutsy bug when setting vga= that will cause blank tty's
[00:22] <TuxMan> dinner is always yummy at my house  :-P
[00:22] <Artimus> I turned off the splash and quiet in grub as well..
[00:22] <BluesKaj> ok, NM :)
[00:22] <Artimus> yeah...
[00:22] <Artimus> Pretty ugly
[00:22] <BluesKaj> splash and quiet eh ..hmm , gonna check
[00:23] <Artimus> Gets rid of the pretty Kubuntu boot screen, though
[00:23] <Artimus> Have to on my laptop...  333mhz, oh yeah...
[00:23] <Artimus> Anyway, I've heard of a new kernel feature that lets you only give certain root priviledges to programs.  So, ping won't have to be suid root anymore...  Hopefully that'll help out X as well...
[00:24] <hydrogen> interesting
[00:25] <Artimus> Right now, all of ping runs as root because it needs one little root feature.  So now, it will only get permission to do that.
[00:25] <ardchoille> Artimus: Isn't that similar to what apparmor does?
[00:26] <BluesKaj> checking this out
[00:26] <Artimus> no idea
[00:26] <Artimus> I've got it from the mailing lists, let me look...
[00:26] <TuxMan> ... I HATE compiling QT
[00:26] <TuxMan> weighing down my comp for hours now
[00:26] <Artimus> yup
[00:26] <Artimus> "Removing SUID on binaries that don't need it"
[00:28] <Artimus> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-hardened/2007-October/thread.html
[00:28] <TuxMan> Ooo
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[00:29] <TuxMan> ah! paperfunk is back!
[00:29] <TuxMan> >.<
[00:29] <paperfunk> *bows*
[00:30] <harry> anyone know where the kde sound settings configuration file is?
[00:30] <Artimus> paperfunk: Please tell me you didn't have to hard power cycle your box...
[00:30] <TuxMan> /sound/sound/sound.config
[00:30] <paperfunk> yeah, guilty
[00:30] <BluesKaj> harry,  or system settings/soundsystem
[00:30] <Artimus> Lesson of the day: If you're going to tell someone how to switch to a virtual terminal, tell them that Ctrl+Alt+F7 switches back to X
[00:30] <paperfunk> i couldnt get back into x, haha
[00:30] <TuxMan>  :-P
[00:30] <paperfunk> hahaha
[00:30] <ardchoille> Artimus: Noted
[00:31] <Artimus> (Alt+F7 might do it, actually...)
[00:31] <BluesKaj> ctrl+alt+F7 to get back to the desktop, paperfunk
[00:31] <Artimus> You need Ctrl+Alt to go from X to Terminal, but only Alt to get back
[00:31] <TuxMan> !automake
[00:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automake - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:31] <ardchoille> paperfunk: My appologies, I neglected to tell you to ctrl+alt+f7 to get back to x
[00:31] <Artimus> Just to nitpick
[00:31] <paperfunk> its not your fault
[00:31] <hydrogen> you can use ctrl though :)
[00:31] <Artimus> hydrogen is correct, an extra control won't hurt it...
[00:31] <TuxMan> ha dumb bot doesnt know automake!
[00:31] <paperfunk> yeah, i hate running bx in a term window
[00:31] <hydrogen> better to have more control if you know what i mean!
[00:31] <paperfunk> but i have that ironed out now
[00:32] <Artimus> paperfunk: Why, if I may ask?
[00:32] <BluesKaj> well, commenting out splash and quiet wasn't enuff to stop the flickering :(
[00:32] <TuxMan> !xephyr
[00:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xephyr - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:32] <ardchoille> !info automake | TuxMan
[00:32] <ubotu> tuxman: automake: A tool for generating GNU Standards-compliant Makefiles. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.10+nogfdl-1 (gutsy), package size 360 kB, installed size 1460 kB
[00:32] <harry> BluesKaj: the kde sound syste settings
[00:32] <paperfunk> im not real sure, its sorta hard to read
[00:32] <hydrogen> autohell--
[00:32] <Artimus> BluesKaj: hmm...  nvidia card by any chance?
[00:32] <paperfunk> i need to change all my konsole settings and ill probablyh like it better
[00:32] <Artimus> yeah, you can increase the font somewhere I'm sure
[00:32] <BluesKaj> yes harry . kmenu/system settings/soundsystem
[00:33] <paperfunk> yeah
[00:33] <harry> BluesKaj: no, i mean the file where the sttings are kept
[00:33] <BluesKaj> Artimus, no...ATI junky onboard X200G
[00:33] <harry> BluesKaj: somewhere in .kde
[00:34] <BluesKaj> asoundrc?
[00:34] <Artimus> BluesKaj: It's probably the same issue...  You've probably got a little 2D framebuffer driver loaded that conflicts...  On my nvidia card, I used to blacklist nvidiafb (the 2D nvidia framebuffer driver)
[00:34] <Artimus> BluesKaj: Just for laughs...  "lsmod | grep fb"
[00:35] <BluesKaj> no output , Artimus
[00:35] <Artimus> BluesKaj: I tried...  Nevermind then, I've got nothing, sorry
[00:36] <BluesKaj> Artimus, it's ok , i'm just happy that the restricted driver runs google earth , altho very slow and clunky
[00:36] <TuxMan> who died?
[00:36] <Artimus> I recently switched boxes, I've got an old Nvidia FX5200...  Works great in Google Earth.  I'm really a fan of the restricted driver manager, one of the best things I've seen in a while.
[00:37] <TuxMan> nVidia GeForce FX 5200?
[00:37] <TuxMan> thats same as mine  :-D
[00:37] <TuxMan>  :-D
[00:37] <Artimus> Cheap card, but it's worked pretty well for me so far...
[00:38] <TuxMan> yeah, not too pricey, but works fine with GL
[00:38] <BluesKaj> yeah, the so called new proprietary advanced ati 8.43linux driver does do anything on my setup, no fgl_glxgears or DRI , nothing like Feisty
[00:39] <BluesKaj> err doesn't
[00:39] <Artimus> BluesKaj: I just ran regular glxgears on an ATI box, worked ok...
[00:39] <Artimus> Any idea what the difference is?
[00:39] <BluesKaj> yup, it works on this one , with the restricted default driver
[00:40] <BluesKaj> 8.37 ati
[00:41] <BluesKaj> I get the spinning 3D cube with fgl_glxgears , so I know the driver is almost there but not quire
[00:41] <Artimus> The bitterness between KDE and Kubuntu is kind of a bummer...  The KDE guys seem really unhappy with all of the non-core changes that Kubuntu makes...  I guess it makes sense, they probably get a lot of Kubuntu specific questions.  I guess it's too optimistic to hope for better relations between the two projects...
[00:41] <Artimus> BluesKaj: What happens when you run regular glxgears with the later driver?
[00:41] <BluesKaj> Artimus, dunno
[00:42] <BluesKaj> if I recall , it does work
[00:42] <Artimus> I got 2500fps on an ATI card with the restricted drivers in Gutsy...  Same as my 5200
[00:42] <Artimus> Too bad the ATI card is a heck of a lot newer than my FX card
[00:44] <BluesKaj> getting only 1100 fps with glxgears here
[00:44] <Funkydan5> I hear you can use this place for help on Dell and such..?
[00:44] <BluesKaj> Dell Linux/kubuntu ?
[00:44] <Artimus> BluesKaj: This was a brand new PCI Express card...
[00:45] <Artimus> I thought Dell sold regular Ubuntu...
[00:45] <BluesKaj> oooh
[00:45] <Funkydan5> Well... They said Linux but I am not, because there is no Dell IRC Chat
[00:45] <Funkydan5> And it is rather important someone helps if anyone is knowledgable in the XP area
[00:45] <Artimus> Funkydan5: You'd want the channel #Ubuntu
[00:45] <Funkydan5> K awesome ty ty ^^
[00:46] <Artimus> Good luck
[00:46] <Funkydan5> ty
[00:46] <BluesKaj> Funkydan5, try #windows
[00:46]  * genii pours some eggnog in his coffee and sips
[00:46] <Artimus> BluesKaj: I'm guessing it's a dual boot issue, he'll want #Ubuntu first
[00:47] <angelsofdust> http://www.cybertown.com/cgi-bin/jail/place?plc=jail&ac=place&ID=0000000000000033&force=s
[00:47] <artur_> A common PC has a battery that cares of the clock. In a Laptop, the same happens.  Is the battery for both cases the same?
[00:47]  * BluesKaj wonders how genii sleeps at night :)
[00:47] <genii> BluesKaj: Not much last night for sure...boxing day
[00:48] <BluesKaj> get any deals , genii ?
[00:48] <genii> BluesKaj: 1Tb external $199
[00:48] <BluesKaj> oooh
[00:49] <TuxMan> aw, cmon! I killed compiz fusion to make my comp faster and now the panel is gone!
[00:49] <TuxMan> and the window dekoration
[00:49] <genii> BluesKaj: But I get oftopic :)
[00:49] <Artimus> artur_: Well, it depends, not all desktops have the little watch battery looking things anymore.  No guarantee a laptop will either.
[00:49] <BluesKaj> network server genii ?
[00:49] <genii> *offtopic
[00:50] <genii> BluesKaj: Streaming media for pvr
[00:50] <BluesKaj> right
[00:51] <whiteflame74> hello
[00:52] <genii> TuxMan: Did you try sudo apt-get install --reinstall kicker           ?
[00:52] <artur_> Artimus: hmm...i see!
[00:52] <Artimus> artur_: Why, did your's die?
[00:52] <artur_> so i'm gonna check,,,
[00:53] <m1k3> I need help, when ever I install wine the .wine directory never gets put there
[00:53] <Artimus> m1k3: winecfg
[00:53] <Artimus> m1k3: It would also automatically create one the first time you run a program...
[00:53] <artur_> no, my sister's laptop is always with the watch changed....
[00:53] <m1k3> Artimus, it freezes when I try any executable or winecfg
[00:53] <TuxMan> I cant do anything that will slow comp down. im compiling QT4 for KDE4
[00:53] <Artimus> m1k3: What's it say?
[00:54] <m1k3> Artumus, nothing
[00:54] <Artimus> artur_: It loses time?
[00:54] <m1k3> Artimus, it locks up
[00:54] <Artimus> Are you sure, it takes a while to run...
[00:54] <artur_> Artimus: yes...
[00:54] <Artimus> It should say something like "Creating .wine directory..."  When you're back at a prompt again, it should be good.
[00:54] <m1k3> Arimus, Yes I'm positive it just stays there
[00:55] <MilitantPotato> artur_: http://repair4laptop.org/notebook_battery.html
[00:55] <m1k3> Artimus, as soon as it says that, it freezes
[00:55]  * unix_lappy is at an open ap hacking a mac.
[00:55] <artur_> Artimus: the same happens with the Date
[00:55] <MilitantPotato> artur_: changing that will void your warrenty probably.
[00:55] <Artimus> artur_: You might want to look into NTP.  It'll sync the clock with the internet.  Kind of nice on boxes where the battery can't be replaced.
[00:55] <Artimus> m1k3: How long did you let it sit there?
[00:57] <m1k3> Artimus, a long time
[00:57] <m1k3> Artimus, I know it's locked up because the mouse doesn't move and no response from keyboard
[00:57] <Artimus> m1k3: That's a bad sign...  Sounds like hardware
[00:58] <m1k3> Artimus, well it was working until I installed new RAM and a DVD burner
[00:58] <Artimus> winecfg creates a bunch of files...  That is not going to lock up Linux...  Unless you've got a kernel bug that doesn't handle harddrive access...
[00:58] <artur_> Artimus: hmmm...indeed. I'm gonna try!  Thanks very much. Now i'm going! Bye!
[00:58] <Ankthepot> i need some advice to decide btw 64bit or 32bit
[00:58] <m1k3> Watch when I try
[00:58] <m1k3> IT's gonna freeze
[00:58] <Artimus> m1k3: stop
[00:58] <Artimus> m1k3: Reboot your box, hit escape when it says "Press Escape to view the GRUB Menu"
[00:59] <Artimus> You should see a choice called "memtest86"
[00:59] <Artimus> Select that.  If you see any red lines, your memory is bad
[00:59] <Artimus> I believe it's escape to reboot again.
[00:59] <Artimus> Leave it run for maybe 10 minutes or until you see red lines.
[01:01] <m1k3> Artimus, it said "CReateing wine configureation "home/m1k3/.wine" then it froze
[01:02] <m1k3> Artimus, I had to restart
[01:02] <Artimus> m1k3: You didn't get my messages then
[01:02] <Artimus> [18:58] <Artimus> m1k3: Reboot your box, hit escape when it says "Press Escape to view the GRUB Menu"
[01:02] <Artimus> [18:59] <Artimus> You should see a choice called "memtest86"
[01:02] <Artimus> [18:59] <Artimus> Select that.  If you see any red lines, your memory is bad
[01:02] <Artimus> [18:59] <Artimus> I believe it's escape to reboot again.
[01:02] <Artimus> [18:59] <Artimus> Leave it run for maybe 10 minutes or until you see red lines.
[01:03] <m1k3> Ok
[01:03] <m1k3> What do I do if my memory is bad?
[01:03] <kye> Anyone know of a fast and easy to use AVI to DVD converter?
[01:03] <paperfunk> is cedega less of a ram hog than wine for gaming?
[01:03] <Artimus> m1k3: How many sticks of RAM do you have?
[01:03] <m1k3> 2
[01:03] <m1k3> 1 gig and a 256
[01:03] <Artimus> paperfunk: Shouldn't make a difference
[01:04] <paperfunk> ok, i guess its not working paying for then
[01:04] <Artimus> m1k3: Try it, if you see red lines, let me know, we'll go from there.  If I should have to disconnect, let someone else know what's going on, tell them your memory is bad and you want to find out which stick is bad.  They'll know how to  help you.
[01:04] <m1k3> ok
[01:04] <MilitantPotato> Mixing ram modules is generally a bad idea isn't it?
[01:05] <Artimus> MilitantPotato: Not really...  If you want Dual Channel, you need the same speed.  Otherwise, no big deal
[01:05] <Artimus> Speed and size...
[01:05] <Ankthepot> Artimus: i'm using intel core 2 duo t5600 cpu, is kubuntu...amd64.iso the one i'm lookin for?
[01:06] <MilitantPotato> nah
[01:06] <Artimus> Ankthepot: Sure.  But i386 would work too.
[01:06] <Artimus> AMD64 if you want your OS to be 64-bit
[01:06] <MilitantPotato> unless you have a specific need for the 64bit version, the i386 will save you a lot of headaches.
[01:06] <Ankthepot> Artimus: ok thanks alot
[01:07] <Artimus> I haven't had an issue either way.  i386 is easier.  Your call.  People can generally help you if there are any specific 64-bit issues
[01:07] <Ankthepot> MilitantPotato: ah, not a real need but just want to give it a try...
[01:07] <MilitantPotato> True, I managed to get 64bit working well, firefox was the biggest hassle
[01:07] <MilitantPotato> firefox with flash*
[01:07] <Artimus> Ankthepot: Flash might take a little extra work, that's all.
[01:08] <Ankthepot> hmm, so it's nothing impossible, just a bit work then?
[01:08] <MilitantPotato> if you're half way decent with linux it's worth a shot
[01:08] <CheGuevara> java
[01:08] <Ankthepot> but anyway, if it won't worth that work (in terms of performance) i will go with i386
[01:08] <MilitantPotato> won't gain much other then the ability to use over 4gb of System Memory
[01:09] <Ankthepot> i'm not experienced on any kinds of ubuntu
[01:09] <whiteflame74> can anyone tell me what i'm doing wrong with samba
[01:09] <Artimus> Ankthepot: I'd go i386 if you can...
[01:09] <MilitantPotato> Ankthepot: maybe .5%-1%, in a few things.
[01:09] <tekteen> whiteflame74: sure
[01:09] <Ankthepot> oh well, then i'm goin for i386 :)
[01:09] <tekteen> whiteflame74: what is the problem?
[01:09] <MilitantPotato> Did the same :P
[01:10] <MilitantPotato> weird.
[01:10] <Ankthepot> MilitantPotato: hehe :)
[01:10] <MilitantPotato> winecfg gave me the error: Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":1.0".
[01:10] <Artimus> whiteflame74: Go ahead and ask.
[01:10] <MilitantPotato> Is that from lack of direct rendering?
[01:10] <Artimus> MilitantPotato: Does glxgears work on your box?
[01:10] <MilitantPotato> yep.
[01:10] <Artimus> Maybe...
[01:11] <Artimus> hmm...  Let me quick look at my xorg.conf
[01:11] <Artimus> One second, I'm lagging a bit...  I tried to load two virtual machines up in vmware at once...  Swapping, horribly...
[01:11] <tekteen> whiteflame74: u here?
[01:12] <Artimus> MilitantPotato: Can you open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf?  Look at the problem for a section called DRI.  It probably says something like Mode 0666.  Is that in there?
[01:12] <whiteflame74> yeah, I'm here.    I've set up Samba, and all and on the windows machine I can see the workgroup, I can see this machine, and I can see the folders but when I click on them I get a network path not found error
[01:12] <TuxMan> the stuff that works... works.
[01:12] <W8TAH> good evening folks -- having a few little oddities in my kubuntu box -- earlier today, while running Pidgin, Konversation, and adjusting the clock, ARTS Crashed reporting a CPU overload -- second or third time this has happened in the last several days, can anyone provide input on troubleshooting or repairs?
[01:12] <MilitantPotato> Artimus: nah, I'm using the ATI drivers w/o AIGLX
[01:13] <TuxMan> W8TAH: don't multitask as heavily?
[01:13] <Artimus> MilitantPotato: But you have 3D support?  Like a Radeon 9500ish card?
[01:13] <MilitantPotato> yes
[01:13] <MilitantPotato> glxgears is working fine, 16000fps
[01:13] <Artimus> W8TAH: Saw that before, I disabled ARTS in the KDE control panel.  I unchecked Enable Soundsystem.
[01:13] <tekteen> whiteflame74: r u sure u have the path for the share correct?
[01:14] <W8TAH> TuxMan: on a 2ghz P4 Laptop with 1gb memory -- that shouldnt be heavy
[01:14] <whiteflame74> yeah..
[01:14] <W8TAH> Artimus: doesnt that cause sound to fail?
[01:14] <Artimus> MilitantPotato: You should have that DRI line in there.  It's using the built in DRI drivers, you still need the DRI line, I believe.
[01:14] <W8TAH> i need sound in both Pidgin and Konversation
[01:14] <Artimus> W8TAH: Nope, you might have trouble with running 2 or more sound applications on an older computer, though...
[01:14] <MilitantPotato> oh
[01:14] <MilitantPotato> network path error
[01:14] <tekteen> whiteflame74: can u pastebin the smb.conf file
[01:14] <MilitantPotato> I had that...give me a few to see if I can remember what I did to fix it.
[01:15] <MilitantPotato> whiteflame74: have you tried using gsambad?
[01:15] <W8TAH> Artimus: where does sound come from then, ALSA?
[01:15] <Artimus> W8TAH: Correct
[01:15] <MilitantPotato> Makes configuring samba a lot simpler
[01:15] <Artimus> Here's what your box looks like now
[01:15] <Artimus> Kopete -> Arts -> Alsa -> Speakers (basically)
[01:15] <Artimus> If you turn arts off, it goes Kopete -> Alsa -> Speakers
[01:15]  * tekteen edits samba the old fashion way
[01:16] <Artimus> The problem is, if you've got an older soundcard, only one application can work with alsa at once...
[01:16] <MilitantPotato> whiteflame74: any chance your linux box is blocking the SMB ports?
[01:16] <tekteen> MilitantPotato: no
[01:16] <W8TAH> Artimus: thanks - -lemme look up what the card is
[01:16] <tekteen> MilitantPotato: he can see the shares
[01:16] <Artimus> MilitantPotato: By the way, I've got a really easy answer for your video issue
[01:16] <Artimus> MilitantPotato: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=292642
[01:16] <TuxMan> yes, my comp can only use one program with ALSA at a time
[01:16] <W8TAH> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[01:17] <Artimus> My Onboard AC97 works fine with multiple audio sources.
[01:17] <tekteen> whiteflame74: have u pastebined the /etc/samba/smb.conf file
[01:17] <W8TAH> outstanding
[01:17] <W8TAH> Artimus: thanks a bunch
[01:17] <whiteflame74> tekteen um... where do you want me to past it without flooding the channel
[01:17] <Artimus> W8TAH: You can try turning off the soundsystem.  If it doesn't work, turn it back on and ask in here again...  Tell them turning off the soundsystem didn't help..
[01:17] <Artimus> MilitantPotato: Hope you aren't using the Composite junk...
[01:17] <tekteen> !pastebin | whiteflame74
[01:17] <ubotu> whiteflame74: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[01:17] <W8TAH> kewl
[01:18] <W8TAH> will do
[01:18] <MilitantPotato> tekteen: i had a share that wasn't set to browsable and I got that error, aswell as firestarting blocking things.
[01:18] <Artimus> W8TAH: You might have to reboot, I'm not sure if ARTS will turn itself off
[01:18] <W8TAH> ok
[01:18] <tekteen> whiteflame74: look at MilitantPotato's post ^
[01:19] <Artimus> MilitantPotato: You get the link I sent?
[01:19] <MilitantPotato> Could also be a lack of an active Samba User account
[01:19] <whiteflame74> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49641/
[01:20] <MilitantPotato> Gsambad made samba so much easier to deal with.
[01:20] <tekteen> whiteflame74: do they ALL not work?
[01:21] <tekteen> If not which ones don't?
[01:21] <whiteflame74> yes none of the folders work
[01:21] <TuxMan> you know those flash drives that say Windows-only or Mac-only?
[01:21] <dr_willis_> Those U3 ones?
[01:21] <TuxMan> once I plugged one into Fedora 8 and it actually didn't work. it melted in the drive...
[01:22] <whiteflame74> If linux was blocking the samba port windows shouldn't know what the folders names are right?
[01:22] <tekteen> whiteflame74: add 'browseable = yes' to each
[01:22] <TuxMan> the plastic literally melted.
[01:22] <tekteen> whiteflame74: yep
[01:22] <Artimus> Gutsy bug: Konversation should not crash while I'm in the middle of a rant
[01:22] <dr_willis_> also you may need to give the users samba passwords.
[01:23] <D-MAN> any one know how to get wireless card working on kubuntu?
[01:23] <Artimus> TuxMan: Generally, the "Windows/Mac only" is for the encryption software.  Every flash drive I've seen has worked fine.  What kind of drive, if I may ask?
[01:23] <whiteflame74> I set up samba passwords.
[01:23] <TuxMan> one of the Sony new ones.
[01:23] <Artimus> Haven't tried one of those, sorry...  Must be a heck of a buggy drive
[01:24] <tekteen> D-MAN: Which card?
[01:24] <Artimus> Wouldn't recommend buying one again :P
[01:24] <TuxMan> ... yeah
[01:24] <Artimus> I have no idea what I even have.  I got some 4GB drive for $30 from best buy
[01:24] <D-MAN> WMP54G
[01:24] <D-MAN> kynksys
[01:24] <D-MAN> lynksys
[01:24] <whiteflame74> ok, let me try the browseable yes thing, thanks for all the help......   I just let kde set it all up for me... still learning the scripting stuff.
[01:25] <tekteen> D-MAN: did you just install it?
[01:25] <D-MAN> yes
[01:25] <dr_willis_> The Useing samba book - is in the repos in the samba-doc pacakge - ITs worth installing and reading
[01:25] <Artimus> WMP54G should be an ndiswrapper card...
[01:25] <TuxMan> omg.. did my konsole just close?
[01:25] <TuxMan> nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOO!
[01:26] <W8TAH> Artimus: i rebooted and i now have NO sound
[01:26] <tekteen> D-MAN: first try to see if there is a restricted driver
[01:26] <W8TAH> :(
[01:26] <MilitantPotato> whiteflame74: this is how my folder shares look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49642/
[01:26] <D-MAN> no clue how to install ndiswrapper
[01:26] <TuxMan> i was compiling Qt4 and konsole just crashed.
[01:26] <Artimus> W8TAH: Yeah...  Looks like your card only supports one source.  Bummer...  Let me check the settings to see if there's something that might help.  Do you remember what the error message was?  CPU something
[01:26] <tekteen> D-MAN: download ndiswrapper from sourceforge.net
[01:26] <Artimus> ...
[01:26] <Artimus> There has to be Ubuntu packages for ndiswrapper
[01:26] <W8TAH> Artimus: CPU Overload
[01:26] <D-MAN> i downloaded it yesterday
[01:26] <TuxMan> no wait, it didnt!
[01:27] <tekteen> Artimus: they never work for me
[01:27] <D-MAN> but no clue how to install
[01:27] <tekteen> Artimus: I download the latest one
[01:27] <tekteen> D-MAN: ok
[01:27] <D-MAN> very nice to actually talk to someone though
[01:27] <tekteen> D-MAN: open a konsole
[01:28] <D-MAN> wats konsole?
[01:28] <tekteen> D-MAN: type sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:28] <Artimus> W8TAH: Let me check some bugs...  I'll get back to you in a minute or two hopefully
[01:28] <tekteen> ok
[01:28] <W8TAH> Artimus: np -- thanks for the assist
[01:28] <BluesKaj> strange , I did a totally clean gutsy install , installed samba, then ran the network printer wizard..,smb:/ connected in konq without any other configuring
[01:28] <tekteen> this will be fun :-)
[01:28] <D-MAN> never used linux before
[01:28] <D-MAN> ya
[01:29] <D-MAN> can never figure it out
[01:29] <tekteen> D-MAN: click alt+f2
[01:29] <BluesKaj> well, gents a buddy needs an old monitor power cord ...bbl
[01:29] <tekteen> then type konsole
[01:29] <whiteflame74> ok... I'm back. was I supposed to restart samba after changing the conf?
[01:29] <tekteen> then run "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[01:29] <D-MAN> im in xp right now couse cant get wirelessd to work
[01:29] <MilitantPotato> yes white
[01:30] <Artimus> W8TAH: What sound card driver are you using again?  "lsmod | grep snd" should list it, amoung other things...
[01:30] <whiteflame74> ok... me = idiot still learning sometimes.
[01:30] <W8TAH> Artimus: one moment
[01:30] <Artimus> Might be hda_intel
[01:30] <tekteen> D-MAN: do u have a way to connect the linux machine to the internet?
[01:31] <W8TAH> Artimus: theres a bout a dozen entries - -what would it be classified as?
[01:31] <tekteen> D-MAN: without wireless?
[01:31] <D-MAN> yes if i carry my pc to other room
[01:31] <Artimus> W8TAH: How about this.  "lsmod | grep hda_intel".  Does that list something?
[01:31] <tekteen> D-MAN: please do that :-)
[01:31] <D-MAN> kk
[01:32] <W8TAH> artimus nothing lists
[01:32] <Artimus> W8TAH: "lsmod | grep via"  ???
[01:32] <D-MAN> then how do i find this place again
[01:32] <tekteen> D-MAN: what do u mean?
[01:32] <W8TAH> Artimus: nada
[01:32] <D-MAN> took 2 days to actually find someone to talk to
[01:33] <tekteen> D-MAN: just come back to this chat room
[01:33] <W8TAH> D-MAN: lotta good people here
[01:33] <tekteen> #kubuntu
[01:33] <D-MAN> is that the site?
[01:34] <nosrednaekim> its the channel
[01:34] <tekteen> D-MAN: how did u get here?!
[01:34] <D-MAN> by luck i guess
[01:34] <W8TAH> tekteen: im guessin hes in on the java client
[01:34] <D-MAN> yes
[01:34] <tekteen> D-MAN: what java client?
[01:34] <Artimus> W8TAH: How about lspci?  What does it list for Multimedia audio controllers?
[01:34] <Artimus> (Sound, audio, whatever it calls it)
[01:35] <W8TAH> 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[01:35] <nosrednaekim> AC'97? should work fine!
[01:35] <D-MAN> how can i tell
[01:35] <tekteen> W8TAH: what java client?
[01:35] <D-MAN> freenode
[01:35] <W8TAH> i came across one some time ago - one moment lemme google
[01:35] <tekteen> D-MAN: r u in a web browser?
[01:36] <W8TAH> artimus -- i keep seeing a box pop up saying starting sound system
[01:36] <D-MAN> yes
[01:36] <tekteen> D-MAN: what website r u at?
[01:36] <whiteflame74> ok, this is getting flustrating, I still can't get samba working....
[01:36] <W8TAH> tekteen: http://java.freenode.net/
[01:36] <D-MAN> irc.netslit.de
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> D-MAN: if you are running kubuntu, there is an application under "internet" called konversation that will bring you here.
[01:37] <W8TAH> nosrednaekim: what driver do i need for it? the restricted one?
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> W8TAH: you shouldn't need any special driver.
[01:37] <W8TAH> humm - im getting some sound
[01:37] <nosrednaekim> W8TAH: no sound works at all?
[01:38] <W8TAH> nosrednaekim: i restarted the sound system and im gettin sound
[01:38] <D-MAN> cool thats good to know
[01:38] <W8TAH> but i still had that crash last night
[01:38] <nosrednaekim> W8TAH: great....
[01:38] <W8TAH> that im trying to avoid
[01:38] <tekteen> D-MAN: r u at a desktop now?
[01:38] <D-MAN> brb
[01:38] <Artimus> nosrednaekim: There's a bug...  ARTS freaks out.  I found some bug reports, but they only apply to VIA audio.
[01:38] <W8TAH> nosrednaekim: oops - -i meant this afternoon
[01:38] <D-MAN> movin to other room
[01:38] <tekteen> ok
[01:38] <Artimus> nosrednaekim: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/arts/+bug/66982 if you're interested.  Won't help here.
[01:38] <W8TAH> artimus - reboot to solve or ????
[01:39] <Artimus> W8TAH: Does sound work at all right now?
[01:39] <W8TAH> one moment lemme see
[01:39] <W8TAH> Artimus: im getting what appears to be full sound in konversation and partial sound in pidgin
[01:42] <Artimus> W8TAH: "ps aux | grep esd"
[01:42] <Artimus> I'm out of ideas after this...
[01:42] <W8TAH> its running
[01:42] <W8TAH> wait
[01:42] <W8TAH> no its not
[01:42] <W8TAH> sorry
[01:42] <Artimus> bummer
[01:42] <W8TAH> might not be installed - i dont know --
[01:43] <nosrednaekim> so the sound driver is alsa, correct?
[01:43] <W8TAH> right now i think arts
[01:43] <W8TAH> when i turned arts off i got no sound
[01:43] <cuking_1> Anybody get samba to perform well?  I am getting about 1/10 the speed of nfs-kernel-server..
[01:44] <tekteen> cuking_1: preform well?
[01:44] <Artimus> W8TAH: How many soundcards does your box have in it?  Whether or not you use them, do you have more than 1?
[01:44] <tekteen> perform*
[01:44] <MilitantPotato> very well here
[01:44] <MilitantPotato> maxes out at my discs speed
[01:44] <W8TAH> Artimus: only one
[01:44] <Artimus> darn
[01:44] <cuking_1> well  I would like hmm about 4 mb/sec on a 100 network .. I get 10~11 mb/sec with nfs
[01:44] <cuking_1> I can't seem to pass over about 1.2 mb/sec
[01:45] <W8TAH> Artimus: im on gusty if that matters
[01:45] <Artimus> I'm reading a German Message board at the moment, this is an exercise in futility
[01:45] <W8TAH> ok
[01:45] <Artimus> Some obscure kernel issue...  I wish I knew what to tell you
[01:45] <W8TAH> artimus - lemme ask this -- if it happens again -- how do i restart arts?
[01:46] <W8TAH> /etc/init.d/artsd restart????
[01:46] <cuking_1> tekteen any ideas?
[01:46] <Artimus> W8TAH: "killall -9 artsd && artsd&"
[01:46] <W8TAH> Artimus: cool
[01:46] <W8TAH> thanks
[01:46] <tekteen> cuking_1: I have no idea
[01:46] <Artimus> W8TAH: Wait a second...  Open up kcontrol and go to the Sound settings.
[01:46] <W8TAH> ok
[01:46] <tekteen> cuking_1: never seen the problem
[01:47] <Artimus> W8TAH: Then to the little Sound System section.  Click on the Hardware tab.
[01:47] <W8TAH> done
[01:47] <cuking_1> hmm what speeds do you normally get with samba?
[01:47] <Artimus> W8TAH: It's set to Autodetect, right?
[01:47] <W8TAH> yes
[01:47] <nosrednaekim> set that to alsa....
[01:47] <W8TAH> ok
[01:47] <tekteen> cuking_1: more then the network hardware supports
[01:47] <W8TAH> any other changes?
[01:48] <Artimus> W8TAH: Not yet...
[01:48] <Artimus> W8TAH: Install the alsa-oss package...
[01:48] <W8TAH> ok
[01:48] <cuking_1> tekteen what did you do to /etc/smb.conf?
[01:48] <Artimus> If it crashes again, go back in there and switch it to Open Sound System...
[01:48] <W8TAH> ok
[01:48] <Artimus> Otherwise, leave it on alsa
[01:48] <tekteen> cuking_1: nothing
[01:48] <W8TAH> Artimus: just that package?
[01:48] <Artimus> W8TAH: yup
[01:49] <Artimus> nosrednaekim: Random thought.  Pidgin isn't trying to go through ARTS...
[01:49] <cuking_1> tekteen ... how long would it take to transfer say a 800 mb file?
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> Artimus: and....
[01:49] <W8TAH> Artimus:  probably
[01:49] <tekteen> cuking_1: no idea
[01:49] <W8TAH> ok the install is done -- lemme reboot
[01:49] <tekteen> cuking_1: not long though
[01:49] <nosrednaekim> no need to reboot
[01:49] <Artimus> nosrednaekim: Think about it.  His card doesn't support multiple audio sources.  Pidgin is trying to directly access the card while arts is running...
[01:49] <tekteen> cuking_1: under 10 min
[01:49] <david__> tekteen im on its me D-MAN
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> Artimus: hmm true,thats why you generally want to run alsa
[01:50] <tekteen> hey david__
[01:50] <W8TAH> i keep getting the restarting sound system box
[01:50] <david__> BOY DOES THIS MONITOR SUCK
[01:50] <cuking_1> tekteen ... I am getting 823 mb in 1min 34 sec with nfs
[01:50] <nosrednaekim> david__: hey
[01:50] <Artimus> nosrednaekim: ALSA won't help you run more than one program at once if the card can't support it
[01:51] <cuking_1> tekteen ... I was just wondering if I did something wrong when I got about 10 min with samba
[01:51] <nosrednaekim> Artimus: most can though.
[01:51] <david__> theres anewb kid in town
[01:51] <tekteen> cuking_1: I do not know. I do not have that prob.
[01:51] <tekteen> david__: have u downloaded ndiswrapper
[01:51] <tekteen> ?
[01:51] <Artimus> nosrednaekim: I've seen many that can't, and I'm guessing if he has no sound after reboot, that means that his card can't
[01:51] <david__> yes
[01:51] <tekteen> cuking_1: no idea. it does not sound right though.
[01:51] <tekteen> cuking_1: can
[01:51] <Artimus> nosrednaekim: I had him turn off ARTS, he had no sound at all.  That means something is grabbing the soundcard, so the others wouldn't play sounds
[01:51] <cuking_1> tekteen I don't need ndiswrapper but thanks.
[01:51] <tekteen> I help david
[01:51] <W8TAH> be right back guys
[01:52] <tekteen> cuking_1: can I help david?
[01:52] <cuking_1> tekteen sure.
[01:52] <tekteen> david__: open a konsole
[01:52] <tekteen> david__: K menu > system > konsole
[01:52] <david__> weres thaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:52] <somekool> who is making KDE4 package for Kubuntu? I wish I could installed .deb file that contains compiled source with .o and everything I need to start development on KDE from freshly installed Kubuntu system
[01:53] <tekteen> k menu=start menu
[01:53] <nosrednaekim> somekool: stdin
[01:53] <Artimus> somekool: There's some for Gutsy...  You'll need some other development packages to compile stuff, of course
[01:54] <tekteen> david__: then type in the command "sudo apt-get install build-essential" (press enter after each command)
[01:54] <david__> black screen
[01:54] <david__> llike dos
[01:54] <tekteen> david__: sounds right :-)
[01:54] <Artimus> nosrednaekim: If I'm not around withW8TAH comes back, have him go into the Pidgin settings and set the Sound Method to ARTS.
[01:54] <nosrednaekim> ok
[01:55] <W8TAH> Artimus: im back
[01:55] <W8TAH> and i'll check it
[01:55] <Artimus> W8TAH: Did you just see the message I sent about Pidgin, then?
[01:55] <tekteen> david__: it is a lot like dos
[01:55] <somekool> gusty is 7.10 right?
[01:55] <W8TAH> yes
[01:55] <david__> kk
[01:55] <BluesKaj> somekool, yes
[01:55] <tekteen> david__: type the command "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[01:56] <W8TAH> Artimus: ARTS is not an option in pidgin
[01:56] <Artimus> O_o
[01:56] <W8TAH> its currently set to automatic
[01:56] <tekteen> david__: u there?
[01:56] <Artimus> W8TAH: What other choices were there?  It's a dropdown box...
[01:57] <W8TAH> console beep, ALSA, Automatic, ESD,command and no sounds
[01:57] <somekool> BluesKaj: yes what?
[01:57] <somekool> BluesKaj: oh yes thanks
[01:58] <BluesKaj> gutsy is 7.10
[01:58] <tekteen> david__ ?
[01:58] <Artimus> hmm...  You might have to turn sounds off in Pidgin.  Is there a reason you use both Pidgin and Kopete?
[01:58] <W8TAH> i dont
[01:58] <david__> tekteen command not found
[01:58] <W8TAH> i use pidgin and konversation
[01:58] <Artimus> W8TAH: Could you use Kopete instead of Pidgin?
[01:58] <david__> do i use parenthisis
[01:58] <W8TAH> no- - its very very tempermental
[01:58] <tekteen> do not include the ""
[01:58] <Artimus> W8TAH: What do you mean?
[01:59] <W8TAH> crashes routinely
[01:59] <tekteen> david__: no
[01:59] <Artimus> W8TAH: On MSN?  They fixed that
[01:59] <david__> kk
[01:59] <W8TAH> on any and all
[01:59]  * BluesKaj doesn't understand using pidgin for irc ...but i'm an old skool type
[01:59] <nosrednaekim> yeah.. kopete is kinda buggy sometimes
[01:59]  * W8TAH doesnt either
[01:59] <Artimus> I haven't had Kopete ever crash.  Konversation, however, crashes all the time.
[01:59] <W8TAH> pidgin is for Yahoo, google,msn etc
[01:59] <tekteen> david__: then type "y" then enter
[01:59] <W8TAH> konversation is everything else
[02:00] <W8TAH> oops
[02:00] <W8TAH> konversation is irc
[02:00] <BluesKaj> konversation , is fine here
[02:00] <W8TAH> ya - -works great -- just wish they would make a better notify system
[02:00] <smk_running_kde4> konversation never crashes here... but anyway
[02:00] <nosrednaekim> yeah wish they had konversation for kde4
[02:00] <BluesKaj> those IMs are more difficult to get right in many ways than an irc client
[02:01] <david__> tekteen password
[02:01] <tekteen> david__: yes
[02:01] <nosrednaekim> david__: your user passowrd.
[02:01] <tekteen> type in your pass
[02:02] <tekteen> david__: then type y then enter
[02:02] <david__> now were cookin
[02:03] <david__> tekteen think it stopped
[02:03] <tekteen> david__: where did u save the ndiswrapper -VERSION INFO.tar.gz file?
[02:03] <david__> desktop
[02:03] <tekteen> ok
[02:04] <tekteen> I am a slow typer :-)
[02:04] <W8TAH> ya
[02:04] <tekteen> david__: type "tar -xvzf Desktop/ndiswrapper*"
[02:05] <tekteen> david__: then "cd ndiswrapper*"
[02:05] <tekteen> now tell me what it says when u type "pwd"
[02:06] <tekteen> david__: note: press enter after each command
[02:07] <tekteen> david__: what happened when u typed "pwd"?
[02:07] <david__> tekteen no luck on first command
[02:07] <tekteen> ok
[02:07] <tekteen> what is the file called?
[02:08] <Neonix> Guys I am getting this error
[02:08] <david__> no luck on first command line
[02:08] <tekteen> david__: what is the file called?
[02:08] <Neonix> Couldn't open audio : Please check that: Your soundcard is configured properly. You have the correct output plugin selected. No other program is blocking the soundcard
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> Neonix: system settings->sound system->hardware-> change the device driver to alsa and hit apply
[02:09] <david__> tekteen how do i tell
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> david__: do "cd Desktop" and then type "ls"
[02:09] <david__> there r actually three files on my desktop
[02:09] <nosrednaekim> without the quotes of course
[02:11] <mrtimbo> hola
[02:11]  * tekteen wishes he could ssh to him
[02:11] <tekteen> :-D
[02:12] <tekteen> david__: do u know what the pastebin is?
[02:12] <david__> tekteen i downloade the file to desktop then i extracted it
[02:12] <tekteen> david__: ok
[02:12] <tekteen> david__: type "cd Desktop/ndiswapper*"
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> tekteen: you can't do stars with cd... tab is better
[02:13] <tekteen> ok
[02:13] <nosrednaekim> david__: do "cd Desktop/ndi<pres tab here>"
[02:13] <Neonix> Under Hardware there is no option device driver but under Midi Device it does says Midi Through Midi Through Port-0 ALSA device, how to find Device Driver section?
[02:14] <tekteen> nosrednaekim: ty
[02:14] <tekteen> nosrednaekim: I know ndiswrapper but not how to teach bash
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> Neonix: sorry, the field is "select audio device"
[02:14] <nosrednaekim> tekteen:  :)
[02:15] <david__> no go
[02:15] <Xcell> My brothere kubuntu starts in text prompting for pw and such, how can he get back to gui?
[02:15] <Xcell> brother
[02:15] <tekteen> david__: why
[02:15] <nosrednaekim> david__: paste the results of "ls Desktop"
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> david__: and of "pwd"
[02:16] <david__> tekteen i dont know y none of the commands r working
[02:16] <tekteen> nosrednaekim: thanks again
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> tekteen: btw, I didn't know of that command "pwd" before you just did it, pretty sweet :D
[02:16] <Neonix> ALSA = Advance Linux Sound Architecture. Don't have to reply if this is correct.
[02:16] <W8TAH> guys the error im getting in the debug window of pidgen when i try to play sounds is:
[02:16] <nosrednaekim> Neonix: thats right.
[02:16] <tekteen> nosrednaekim: lol
[02:17] <W8TAH> (21:16:21) gstreamer: Resource busy or not available.
[02:17] <Neonix> Sbkh,
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> gstreamer? hmmm why don't you get pidgin to do comsole beeps?
[02:17] <Neonix> Should I reboot, sorry about the above line?
[02:17] <nosrednaekim> Xcell: try "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[02:17] <tekteen> david__: what does the konsole say when u type "cd ~;ls Desktop"
[02:17] <Xcell> nice thanks.
[02:18] <nosrednaekim> after logging in of course
[02:18] <W8TAH> nosrednaekim: lemme try it
[02:18] <Neonix> It worked, thanks.
[02:19] <W8TAH> nosrednaekim: nothing happens
[02:19] <tekteen> david__: I am sorry but I am currently blind since I am not at your computer
[02:19] <tekteen> david__: have u tried that command?
[02:20] <david__> tekteen does desktop have to have caps at beginning
[02:21] <tekteen> david__: yes
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> W8TAH: hmm
[02:22] <nosrednaekim> W8TAH: does normal music work?
[02:22] <W8TAH> ummm - not sure really
[02:22] <W8TAH> i dont play music from this box
[02:22] <W8TAH> ive got a cd -- lemme try
[02:23] <david__> tekteen is that is or ls
[02:24] <Schuenemann> why don't you copy and paste?
[02:24] <tekteen> lower case L
[02:25] <tekteen> david__: lower case L
[02:25] <david__> tekteen no such file or directory
[02:26] <W8TAH> nosrednaekim: NO - audio output unavailabe: the device is busy -- Xine Parameters:
[02:26] <nosrednaekim> what the heck? do a "pwd" david__
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> W8TAH: thats weird... I wonder what is using the sound .... oh! go to systemsettings->sound system and set the kde timeout to 0
[02:27] <W8TAH> okies
[02:27] <david__> wat is pwd
[02:27] <tekteen> david__: pwd is a command
[02:27] <nosrednaekim> its a command... run it
[02:27] <ardchoille> david__: it means "Print Working Directory"
[02:28] <david__> k i did that
[02:28] <tekteen> david__: what did it say?
[02:28] <W8TAH> nosrednaekim: kde timeout = Auto suspend?
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> W8TAH: yeah XD
[02:28] <nosrednaekim> sorry, I don't have a system settings window here ;)
[02:28] <W8TAH> np
[02:29] <W8TAH> its resetting the sound sytem now
[02:29] <tekteen> david__: after u typed pwd, what came back?
[02:30] <david__> tekteen it says /home/david
[02:30] <tekteen> david__: ok
[02:30] <tekteen> david__: type "ls Desktop"
[02:31] <tekteen> david__: what comes back?
[02:31] <david__> k i see ndiswrapper
[02:31] <tekteen> ok
[02:31] <tekteen> david__: is it colored blue?
[02:31] <W8TAH> nosrednaekim: that got it i think!!!!
[02:32] <david__> yes
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> W8TAH: w00t
[02:32] <W8TAH> ya - NO DOUBT
[02:32] <W8TAH> thanks to all
[02:32] <nosrednaekim> W8TAH: yeah.. thats a nasty little "feature"
[02:32] <tekteen> david__: type "cd Desktop/FOLDER-U-Found"
[02:32] <W8TAH> ya -- i can see that
[02:33] <tekteen> david__: replace FOLDER-U-Found with the folder
[02:35] <david__> tekteen didnt work
[02:36] <tekteen> david__: what was the error
[02:36] <tekteen> ?
[02:36] <david__> no such file or directory
[02:36] <tekteen> david__: type "cd Desktop"
[02:37] <david__> k
[02:37] <david__> did nothing
[02:37] <tekteen> david__: ok
[02:37] <tekteen> david__: type: ls
[02:37] <tekteen> david__: what does it say?
[02:38] <david__> tekteen now i see it in blue
[02:38] <tekteen> ok
[02:38] <tekteen> david__: type "ls FOLDER-U-FOUND-IN-BLUE"
[02:39] <tekteen> david__: anything in caps needs to be replaced by u
[02:40] <nosrednaekim> tekteen: just to let you know (not that is really important or anything) its general practice to enclose anything that needs to be replaced by a user in <> signs..
[02:40] <tekteen> nosrednaekim: ok
[02:40] <tekteen> david__: Anything in <> needs to be replaced by u
[02:41] <tekteen> nosrednaekim: thanks :-)
[02:41] <david__> TEKTEEN WAT DO U MEAN
[02:42] <david__> sry caps
[02:42] <arrrghhh> can someone tell me what's wrong with this code? "sudo wget http://apt.mediatomb.cc/key.asc -O- -q | sudo apt-key add -"
[02:42] <arrrghhh> oops sorry i should've pastebinned....
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> tekteen: no...I mean in your original command
[02:42] <nosrednaekim> arrrghhh: no, tats ok
[02:43] <arrrghhh> well it asks for my password 2x in the same line...
[02:43] <arrrghhh> i put it in a pastebin anyways, http://pastebin.com/d1f3f38e6
[02:43] <tekteen> david__: type "ls <folder>" note: anything in <needs to be replaced>
[02:43] <tekteen> note: anything in <> needs to be replaced
[02:43] <nosrednaekim> and without the signs..
[02:44] <Neonix> Sound worked but after two songs, again the same error of sound card. I did the same solution but no result?
[02:44] <arrrghhh> david__: or quotes lol
[02:45] <arrrghhh> nosrednaekim: so there's nothing wrong with that code?  it gives me a pw prompt 2x in the same line, and after i input my pw once successfully it just sits there but doesn't let me enter my pw again...
[02:45] <tekteen> david__: do u know how to use dos?
[02:45] <arrrghhh> screw it, i'll just run it as root.  duh.
[02:45] <david__> TEK TEEN IM LOST
[02:45] <tekteen> david__: I know
[02:45] <nosrednaekim> haha
[02:45] <arrrghhh> david__: turn off the caps...
[02:45] <tekteen> david__: do u know dos?
[02:45] <david__> kinda
[02:46] <tekteen> david__: u know the command dir?
[02:46] <david__> yes
[02:46] <tekteen> david__: in linux it is ls
[02:46] <david__> ah
[02:46] <tekteen> and cd is cd
[02:47] <tekteen> david__: that is all I know of dos :-D
[02:47] <david__> hlaf the problem i dont know all theese weird names for stuf
[02:47] <david__> y would i type cd?
[02:47] <tekteen> david__: cd to the ndiswrapper dir
[02:47] <nosrednaekim> david__: and in addition, the tab key will coplete things for you.
[02:48] <tekteen> david__: we are trying to teach both the command line and ndiswrapper
[02:48] <tekteen> :-D
[02:48] <david__> kk
[02:49] <tekteen> david__: what does pwd say?
[02:49] <david__> just want my wireless to work
[02:49] <tekteen> now
[02:50] <kye> Anyone know of a fast and easy to use AVI to DVD converter?
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> !tovid
[02:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tovid - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[02:50] <tekteen> kye: devede
[02:50] <david__> tekteen pwd says/home/david/desktop
[02:50] <nosrednaekim> !info tovid
[02:50] <ubotu> Package tovid does not exist in gutsy
[02:50] <kye> Devede is really slow for me.
[02:51] <nosrednaekim> david__: desktop is, no dount, capitalized?
[02:51] <david__> yes
[02:51] <tekteen> david__: cd to the ndiswrapper dir
[02:51] <BluesKaj> kye, what do you mean slow ...transcoding ?
[02:51] <kye> Yes
[02:51] <david__> tekteen how do i do that?
[02:52] <kye> Transcoding.
[02:52] <tekteen> david__: u know dos?
[02:52] <tekteen> david__: cd <folder>
[02:52] <BluesKaj> well, it takes a good 60-90 mins to transcode and author a full length movie from avi oe whatever codec to dvd mpeg
[02:53] <david__> no clue confusing me
[02:53] <tekteen> david__: what is the ndiswrapper folder called?
[02:54] <david__> ndiswrapper-1.51
[02:54] <tekteen> ok
[02:54] <tekteen> type "cd ndiswrapper-1.51"
[02:55] <tekteen> david__: next type "sudo make uninstall"
[02:56] <tekteen> david__: then type "make"
[02:56] <bazhang> http://www.ss64.com/bash/ david__
[02:56] <tekteen> bazhang: we do not need more confusion! :-)
[02:56] <bazhang> tekteen: sorry! :}
[02:56] <tekteen> bazhang: np
[02:57] <david__> wont let me type password
[02:57] <tekteen> david__: the pass is not shown
[02:57] <tekteen> david__: it is still there though
[02:57] <david__> ah
[02:57] <tekteen> david__: it is for security
[02:58] <david__> kk
[02:58] <david__> cool
[02:58] <tekteen> david__: have u done "sudo make uninstall" then "make" then "sudo make install"
[02:59] <david__> no
[02:59] <david__> just uninstall
[02:59] <tekteen> david__: each is a separate command
[02:59] <tekteen> david__: do them all
[02:59] <david__> kk
[03:00] <tekteen> david__: u have now (once u r done) compiled your first program! :-D
[03:00]  * CheGuevara claps
[03:01] <david__> tekteen u knew how to do this long time ago didnt u?
[03:02] <tekteen> david__: what do u mean. There is not much "long time." I am only 14
[03:02] <david__> its kool ive learned a bit about commands in linux
[03:02] <tekteen> david__: I have used linux since I was 8
[03:02] <mrtimbo> i was 14 in 92 lol
[03:03] <david__> ive used kubuntu for 2 days
[03:03] <smk_running_kde4> hey, I am using uim-anthy for typing japanese but it does not work in KDE applications. ??? Skype either... only GTK apps works with japanese... why ???
[03:03] <david__> lol
[03:03] <david__> did sudo install
[03:03] <nosrednaekim> smk_running_kde4: you probably need another tool for kde apps
[03:04] <tekteen> david__: once u are done go online and find the windows xp driver for the wireless
[03:04] <david__> i have disk that came with it
[03:05] <tekteen> david__: put in the disk
[03:05] <david__> kk 1second
[03:05] <tekteen> david__: then type "cd /cdrom"
[03:07] <nosrednaekim>  /media/cdrom?
[03:07] <dandielionous> stupid computer
[03:07] <dandielionous> hehehe
[03:07] <tekteen> nosrednaekim: both work
[03:07] <dandielionous> or maybe ot
[03:07] <dandielionous> s ,e
[03:07] <dandielionous> or maybe it's me
[03:08] <david__> tekteen wat was it supposed to do
[03:08] <nosrednaekim> dandielionous: PEBAK?
[03:08] <dandielionous> PEBAK????
[03:08] <tekteen> david__: get u ready for the following commands
[03:09] <tekteen> david__: do u know what the pastebin is
[03:09] <nosrednaekim> dandielionous: problem between brain and keyboard ;)
[03:09] <dandielionous> are you talking to me?
[03:09] <dandielionous> sorry
[03:09] <david__> lol nope
[03:09] <dandielionous> friend was asking me what this room was
[03:09] <tekteen> !pastebin | david__
[03:09] <ubotu> david__: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:09] <dandielionous> Showing a friend what kubuntu can do.
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> dandielionous: yeah :D
[03:10] <tekteen> david__: nm
[03:10] <nosrednaekim> dandielionous: this is the support channel in case your freind didn't know ;)
[03:10] <tekteen> david__: type "ls"
[03:10] <david__> no clue wat that means
[03:10] <tekteen> david__: nm=never mind
[03:10] <dandielionous> Thank-you right.
[03:10] <dandielionous> He just said he could deal with chat rooms like this. :)
[03:11] <tekteen> david__: is the a file that is a ".inf"
[03:11] <BluesKaj> there are chat rooms on windows as well :)
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> hehe
[03:11] <nosrednaekim> BluesKaj: not like this one ;)
[03:11] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I'm trying to make my computer a router so that I can use my Xbox 360.  So far nothing has worked.  I've tried using Firestarter, installing libUPnP, and setting up the internal connection for it, but it still won't work.  Any ideas?
[03:11] <Ertain> I can give the logs of the information coming from the 360.
[03:12] <dandielionous> I wonder why my dell that I was fixing for a friend would load kubuntu but would not load knoppix.
[03:12] <BluesKaj> I've been in here on windows - xchat
[03:12] <dsmith_> kubuntu has better hardware support?
[03:12] <dandielionous> Kubuntu has better library of drivers :)
[03:13] <dsmith_> same thing :)
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> !internetsharing
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about internetsharing - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <nosrednaekim> !network
[03:13] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:13] <tekteen> Ertain: just to give u some quick help, u want to NAT and masquerade
[03:13] <dandielionous> yep yep got that right dsmith
[03:13] <tekteen> !nat
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nat - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <BluesKaj> :- )
[03:13] <dsmith_> I so hate gnats..
[03:13] <dsmith_> oh...your talking about NAT's
[03:14] <dandielionous> I could get damn small linux, puppy, kubuntu to load on this dell but not knoppix. Only the knoppix rescue disk.
[03:14] <dsmith_> i had that happen with knoppix before
[03:14] <dsmith_> oh well :(
[03:14] <dandielionous> I kind of like knoppix.
[03:14] <dsmith_> you like flux?
[03:15] <dandielionous> Don't think I've tried flux.
[03:15] <dsmith_> or e17 windowmanager?
[03:15] <dsmith_> btw
[03:15] <tekteen> david__: u here?
[03:15] <dandielionous> But I've tried mandriva and mandrrake
[03:15] <dsmith_> !ot
[03:15] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[03:15] <dandielionous> ty ubotu you are so correct :)
[03:15] <dsmith_> I have to remind myself
[03:16] <tekteen> david__: u here?
[03:16] <freddy> epa
[03:17] <freddy> eded
[03:18] <_CitizenKane_> hello all, i was wondering if it was possible to connect to an openVPN server with knetworkmanager, i do have network-manager openvpn module installed
[03:18] <tekteen> CitizenKane: there is a module?
[03:20] <_CitizenKane_> tekteen, maybe i shouldn't say module, a plugin maybe, let me double check
[03:20] <D-MAN> tekteen u ther
[03:20] <tekteen> D-MAN: yep
[03:20] <D-MAN> am i close to getting this working
[03:20] <tekteen> D-MAN: yes
[03:21] <tekteen> D-MAN: we now need to install the windows xp driver
[03:21] <D-MAN> i have my cd rom
[03:21] <_CitizenKane_> tekteen, alright, it's the open vpn plugin for network manager and it does exist
[03:21] <tekteen> D-MAN: is it in the comp.?
[03:21] <D-MAN> yes
[03:22] <tekteen> D-MAN: type "cd /cdrom"
[03:22] <D-MAN> no such file or directory
[03:23] <tekteen> D-MAN: type "cd /media/cdrom"
[03:23] <D-MAN> same message
[03:23] <Gidean> Hello everyone...
[03:24] <D-MAN> hello
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> D-MAN: cd /media/cdrom0
[03:24] <tekteen> nosrednaekim: thanks
[03:24] <nosrednaekim> hey... we don't know if it works yet ;)
[03:25] <D-MAN> no luck
[03:25] <arrrghhh> so what's the best method to get a program to run at startup?  like mediatomb, knotes...
[03:25] <nosrednaekim> !autostart
[03:25] <ubotu> To make programs autostart with your KDE session, you can make a link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart.   Unfortunatly now the screen goes black (and eventually to sleep) after running the "local boot scripts".  I hear the Ubuntu login sound but no visual.  Any ideas?
[03:27] <arrrghhh> yea i did, i feel stupid now.
[03:27] <_CitizenKane_> meh, it's fine, there are always too many names in the open source world
[03:27] <D-MAN> dont see one
[03:28] <tekteen> D-MAN: take out and put back the cd
[03:28] <D-MAN> kk i did
[03:29] <D-MAN> asks wat i want to do
[03:29] <_CitizenKane_> Gidean, i'm guessing X on your system is dying because of the new video card
[03:29] <tekteen> D-MAN: open in file manager
[03:29] <ardchoille> J23: I'm here
[03:29] <J23> ardchoille: u r always here.. haha
[03:30] <J23> ardchoille: I'm dany man =)
[03:30] <D-MAN> how do i do that
[03:30] <Gidean> citizenKane, I booted in recovery mode and ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and it recognized the new card....
[03:30] <ardchoille> J23: :)
[03:30] <Gidean> I'm stumped...
[03:30] <oem> woah
[03:30] <tekteen> D-MAN: now in the konsole type "cd /media/cdrom0"
[03:30] <_CitizenKane_> Gidean, what kind of video card is it?
[03:31] <D-MAN> how do i open in file mamnager
[03:31] <Gidean> this may be a dumb question but:  I plugged the monitor into the card's port not the old one.  this is correct, right?
[03:31] <_CitizenKane_> Gidean, ya that's right
[03:31] <tekteen> D-MAN: nm that
[03:31] <_CitizenKane_> Gidean, maybe you don't have the xserver driver package for your card installed?
[03:32] <Gidean> nvidia nv34 geforce fx 5200
[03:32] <D-MAN> so cancel opening it
[03:32] <arrrghhh> would i have to restart my machine for that kcontrol-autostart package to take it's effect on kcontrol?  i restarted it... nothing (and i was confused because it's normally called "KInfoCenter"...)
[03:32] <tekteen> D-MAN: yes
[03:32] <_CitizenKane_> arrrghhh, let me check
[03:33] <tekteen> D-MAN: then type (in the konsole) "cd /media/cdrom0"
[03:33] <D-MAN> no such file or directory
[03:33] <BluesKaj> KInfoCenter and kcontrol are 2 different things
[03:33] <_CitizenKane_> arrrghhh, in kcontrol it was there immediately after i installed it
[03:33] <arrrghhh> BluesKaj: they are?
[03:34] <tekteen> D-MAN: click the cd pic on the desktop
[03:34] <arrrghhh> oh der they are.  what is it called then?
[03:34] <D-MAN> dont see one
[03:34] <tekteen>  D-MAN: ok
[03:35] <_CitizenKane_> arrrghhh, the module is called autostart manager, it's under KDE Components in kcontrol
[03:35] <tekteen> D-MAN: get the driver online
[03:35] <D-MAN> kk
[03:35] <D-MAN> download to desktop
[03:35] <tekteen> yes
[03:35] <somekool> after each apt-get install I get this error, could any else HELP please ? http://www.pastebin.ca/833324
[03:36] <Gidean> brb
[03:36] <D-MAN> do i get drivers from lynksys
[03:37] <tekteen>  D-MAN: there website
[03:37] <_CitizenKane_> somekool, well that error doesn't help much, you can check the system log which is at /var/log/syslog
[03:38] <tekteen> what is the model of the wireless
[03:38] <J23> ardchoille: did u get my msg?
[03:38] <se7en> somekool: try sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:38] <tekteen> D-MAN: what is the model of the wireless
[03:38] <BluesKaj> tekteen, arrrghhh , another way to add or delete apps from auto start is copy and paste them here : kdesu konqueror /usr/share/autostart
[03:39] <tekteen> BluesKaj: y r u talking to me?
[03:40] <_CitizenKane_> tekteen, i'm guessing his mis-tabbed ;)
[03:40] <tekteen> yep
[03:40] <BluesKaj> oops
[03:40] <tekteen> I did not know tab did that
[03:40] <D-MAN> WMP54G LINKSYS
[03:41] <tekteen> ok
[03:41] <_CitizenKane_> tekteen, that is could mis-tab or that it auto-completed names?
[03:41] <D-MAN> SAYS I NEED SOME FLASHPLAYER
[03:41] <BluesKaj> anyway getting tired i reckon...better hit the sack
[03:41] <D-MAN> sry caps
[03:41] <tekteen>  D-MAN: what does?
[03:41] <D-MAN> there website
[03:41] <tekteen> ok
[03:42] <tekteen> I found the driver
[03:42] <D-MAN> how
[03:42] <tekteen> D-MAN: what is the revision?
[03:43] <somekool> se7en: http://www.pastebin.ca/833328 <-- getting an error anyway
[03:43] <tekteen> D-MAN: 1? 2? 4? 4.1?
[03:43] <D-MAN> wat number is that?
[03:43] <D-MAN> 4.1
[03:43] <tekteen> D-MAN: ok
[03:43] <somekool> cat /var/log/syslog ... does not show a thing about apt or kdm
[03:44] <_CitizenKane_> somekool, anything about dpkg?
[03:44] <cuking_1> D-MAN I simply use the flashplugin-nonfree package
[03:44] <tekteen> cuking_1: it does not work
[03:44] <somekool> _CitizenKane_: no
[03:44] <D-MAN> wre do u obtain this
[03:44] <cuking_1> tekteen it works for me.
[03:44] <tekteen> cuking_1: it broke
[03:44] <somekool> there is a dpkg.log though
[03:44] <cuking_1> okay
[03:45] <_CitizenKane_> somekool, well, i suppose that would help :P
[03:45] <tekteen> D-MAN: go to http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1166859843981&packedargs=sku%3D1150490054358&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=4398154358B03&displaypage=download#versiondetail
[03:46] <somekool> 2007-12-26 22:40:11 startup packages configure
[03:46] <somekool> 2007-12-26 22:40:11 configure kdm 4:3.5.8-2ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa1 4:3.5.8-2ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa1
[03:46] <somekool> 2007-12-26 22:40:11 status half-configured kdm 4:3.5.8-2ubuntu3~gutsy1~ppa1
[03:46] <somekool> three lines only
[03:47] <_CitizenKane_> somekool, there a log file for apt?
[03:47] <D-MAN> wich driver do i need?
[03:47] <se7en> somekool: what doese df -h say
[03:48] <tekteen> D-MAN: at that site u want the link that says "Driver"
[03:48] <somekool> df -h ? it says I need a new harddrive
[03:48] <D-MAN> below the vists driver?
[03:49] <tekteen> yes
[03:49] <arrrghhh> ok time to test by restartin...
[03:49] <se7en> somekool: :) the error could show up when your boot drive is at 100%
[03:49] <tekteen> D-MAN: did u download it?
[03:50] <somekool> still got at least a 1GB on every partitions
[03:50] <se7en> if that is not the case try apt-get -f install
[03:50] <D-MAN> yes
[03:50] <tekteen> D-MAN: type "cd .."
[03:50] <tekteen> that is 2 dots at the end
[03:50] <D-MAN> k
[03:51] <somekool> se7en: thing is ... kdm is installed and it works fine ... I use it everytime I turn on my computer ;) it just apt-get that complains about it ...
[03:51] <D-MAN> then
[03:51] <somekool> and also the fact it feels like its trying to launch a second X on a separate tty
[03:51] <tekteen> now type "sudo apt-get install cabextract"
[03:52] <somekool> http://blog.somekool.net/images/img_4232.jpg
[03:52] <tekteen> D-MAN: then type "cabextract WMP54Gv4.1_20051117"
[03:53] <tekteen>  D-MAN: no
[03:53] <se7en> somekool: try apt-get -f install to force an install of the files that didn't get loaded because of the error
[03:53] <tekteen> D-MAN; I messed up
[03:53] <tekteen> D-MAN; type "mkdir driver"
[03:53] <tekteen> then cd driver
[03:53] <tekteen> "cd driver"
[03:55] <D-MAN> wen i typed sudo cabextract says another process is using it
[03:55] <somekool> se7en: i just did it , and it did the same thing...
[03:55] <somekool> i dont really want to remove it and reinstall it ...
[03:55] <tekteen> D-MAN: not sure why
[03:56] <D-MAN> unable to lock admiin directory
[03:56] <tekteen> D-MAN: what is your im?
[03:57] <D-MAN> updater is running
[03:57] <tekteen> D-MAN: ok
[03:57] <D-MAN> is that y
[03:57] <tekteen> D-MAN: yes
[03:57] <tekteen> u can not run two installing programs at the same time
[03:58] <somekool> too late !! going to bed !!! thanks all, have a good night
[03:59] <tekteen> D-MAN: have u installed cabextract?
[03:59] <D-MAN> no
[03:59] <tekteen> can u stop the updater?
[04:00] <D-MAN> its done
[04:00] <tekteen> ok
[04:00] <crxyem> is there any program that will install or convert a mac osx .pkg installer package to something usable by linux ?
[04:01] <tekteen> D-MAN: then "mkdir driver"
[04:01] <tekteen> "mv WMP54Gv4.1_20051117.exe driver/"
[04:02] <tekteen> cd driver
[04:02] <tekteen> cabextract WMP54Gv4.1_20051117.exe
[04:03] <tekteen> tell me when u have done those commands
[04:03] <D-MAN> try mv help for more info
[04:04] <crxyem> looks like someone is trying to get WPA working
[04:04] <crxyem> well, drivers for your wireless at least
[04:04] <sfears> hello
[04:05] <tekteen> D-MAN: Can u give me your email address. My mom says I need to go to sleep. :-P
[04:05] <D-MAN> mv missing destination file operand
[04:05] <etfb> crxyem: I'm given to understand that trying to mix different package systems (deb, yum, rpm, etc) is a dangerous pastime.  Not sure if you're n00b or Linus in disguise, but be careful.
[04:05] <D-MAN><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:06] <tekteen> D-MAN: thanks
[04:06] <D-MAN> thnx for your help
[04:06] <sfears> is there a gui to configure multiple monitors.. specifically thru an nvidia card with an svideo cable to my tv?
[04:06] <etfb> D-MAN: Probably should have said /msg tekteen [your message] there...
[04:06] <tekteen> etfb: D-MAN is not registered
[04:07] <tekteen> etfb: would not work
[04:07] <tekteen> D-MAN: bye
[04:07] <etfb> tekteen: Ah!  Well, you just need /msg nickserv identify [some password], but I guess it's not like there are spambots harvesting #kubuntu for addresses they can't get a million other places.
[04:08] <Evolution2>  I keep getting this "cannot mount external drive error. and appearently I have to force it because it seems to be in generic mode. I don't have windows to do a safely remove. help please
[04:08] <etfb> Evolution2: Do you see any informative errors if you try dmesg in a konsole?
[04:08] <etfb> Evolution2: ... or cat .xsession-errors
[04:08] <Evolution2> yes sir
[04:08] <Evolution2> hold on
[04:08] <Evolution2> its this
[04:09] <eagles051387> flaccid: i made a back up of xorg once i reinstalled for safte purposes
[04:09] <etfb> !pastebin | Evolution2
[04:09] <ubotu> Evolution2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:09] <eagles051387> world of warcraft is working like a charm
[04:09] <arrrghhh> sweet, that autostart control worked... thanks!
[04:10] <crxyem> etfb: then there exists a way to do it , I've used alian to convert yum and rpm packages to .deb, but this is a mac osx package insaller
[04:10] <etfb> crxyem: Then you're more experienced than me.  I was going to try using alien for something but the warnings scared me off.  Not sure what distro Darwin is based on -- hang on, it's BSD, isn't it?
[04:11] <arrrghhh> although, is there a general one for linux?  or at least ubuntu... like /usr/share/autostart would be better huh.
[04:11] <Thingus> eagles051387: Wine?
[04:12] <arrrghhh> can you just make symbolic links to that directory?
[04:13] <michal_> hi people, is normal that my kubuntu is taking above 500MB of memory after start?
[04:13] <arrrghhh> michal_: it swaps a lot...
[04:13] <michal_> it's not..
[04:13] <arrrghhh> like caches to ram.
[04:13] <michal_> Mem:   1035124k total,   474300k used,   560824k free,     7144k buffers
[04:13] <michal_> Swap:  2000084k total,    34784k used,  1965300k free,   228056k cached
[04:14] <arrrghhh> it uses ram instead of swap
[04:14] <eagles051387> Thingus: what bout wine
[04:14] <Dragnslcr> michal_- depending on what you have running, 500 MB is fairly reasonable
[04:14] <Evolution2> etfb: http://pastebin.com/m6b1760fe
[04:14] <arrrghhh> i prefers ram to swap because it's quicker... it uses swap when it absolutely necessary (unless you configure it.)
[04:15] <se7en> MemTotal:      2074792 kB
[04:15] <se7en> MemFree:        113588 kB
[04:15] <etfb> Evolution2: You or the OS will need to create the directory /media/[name of disk] before you can mount the drive manually
[04:16] <etfb> Evolution2: Back when I was having trouble with my USB drive, I did that and it was fine.  Didn't need -o force either.
[04:16] <Dragnslcr> I have 1.5 GB used right now, but about half of that is cached
[04:16] <Thingus> eagles051387: Using WINE to run WoW?
[04:16] <Evolution2> etfb: ok. but I have plugged in
[04:16] <etfb> Evolution2: But it might be worth copying stuff off and reformatting the drive, because Ubuntu got a lot fussier about broken formatting as of 7.04
[04:16] <Dr_willis_> I think someone needs to make a WowUbuntu Just to set up Wine and Wow Automaticially.... :)
[04:17] <bazhang> wowbuntu
[04:17] <crxyem> etfb yes, osx/darwin is a bsd based distro
[04:17] <michal_> who's trying run wiw?
[04:17] <Evolution2> etfb: so I just unplug this and create it?
[04:17] <michal_> *wow
[04:18] <bazhang> everyone?
[04:18] <etfb> Evolution2: Yes.
[04:18] <Evolution2> etfb: ok
[04:18] <arrrghhh> have fun supporting wowbuntu with all those different h/w configurations...
[04:18] <neville> erm, is it just me, or does gparted keep closing on its own?
[04:18] <etfb> Evolution2: Remember to make it generally readable, at least at first while you're fiddling with it:
[04:18] <etfb> Evolution2: mkdir /media/nameofdisk
[04:18] <etfb> Evolution2: sudo chmod 777 /media/nameofdisk
[04:19] <Evolution2> etfb: I was going to do mkdir /media/nameofdisk
[04:19] <etfb> neville: Confucius say: when your partition editor starts crashing, consider updating your backups quick smart.
[04:20] <distroh0pper> lol
[04:20] <neville> i have nothing to backup
[04:20] <neville> it's just incredibly annoying
[04:20] <etfb> neville: Alternatively, try qtparted, the KDE-specific port.
[04:20] <neville> ahh, okay
[04:20] <neville> thanks
[04:21] <etfb> neville: Or cfdisk if you prefer the konsole.
[04:21] <eagles051387> Thingus: yes i do
[04:21] <eagles051387> Thingus: u play wow
[04:21] <eagles051387> lol Dr_willis_ ill gett stareted on ur suggestion immediatley:p
[04:25] <Thingus> eagles051387: I thought about buying it today.
[04:25] <Thingus> But, decided not to. :/
[04:25] <eagles051387> Thingus: what held ya back
[04:26] <eagles051387> u need to start asap cuz they coming out with new expansion
[04:26] <eagles051387> in april or may
[04:26] <michal_> probably stupid question .), but does anyone here know what is difference in karamba script in memory showing using %fmb or just %fm with %fmb it show used something about 200 and with %fm 500. second one is right by top
[04:27] <crxyem> michal, maybe bit vs byte
[04:28] <Thingus> eagles051387: I'm not much into MMOs. I tried Guild Wars a bit back...
[04:28] <Evolution2> etfb: thanks a lot, that was weird I never had to deal with that before
[04:28] <eagles051387> Thingus: i have it too
[04:28] <eagles051387> Thingus: is quake 4 linux naitve as well
[04:28] <root> c
[04:28] <Thingus> There are periods where I might grind for a week, and then stop playing for an entire month or longer.
[04:28] <eagles051387> i know unreal 2k4 is
[04:28] <Thingus> eagles051387: Yeah.
[04:28] <etfb> Evolution2: What distro?  I started getting odd behaviour with Feisty that never happened with Edgy.
[04:28] <eagles051387> kool i need to get em installed
[04:28] <etfb> Evolution2: It stopped when I reformatted the offending drive.
[04:29] <Thingus> eagles051387: http://zerowing.idsoftware.org -- That's the link for the Quake 4 installer.
[04:29] <eagles051387> kool ty
[04:29] <michal_> crxyem would the difference be 8x ?
[04:29] <bazhang> open arena on the eeepc haha
[04:29] <Thingus> eagles051387: Oh... Sorry...
[04:29] <Thingus> eagles051387: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com *
[04:29] <Thingus> That's the right one.
[04:29] <eagles051387> sweet i have doom 3 and expansion
[04:29] <Evolution2> etfb: I am on ubuntu studio right now running gnome. I also have ubuntu and kubuntu on the same harddrive along with Gentoo
[04:29] <etfb> !ot
[04:29] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[04:30] <eagles051387> night guys
[04:30] <etfb> Evolution2: Which version, I meant to ask.
[04:30] <Evolution2> etfb: gutsy
[04:30] <Evolution2> and some hardy
[04:31] <neville> okay, thanks for all your help
[04:31] <etfb> Evolution2: Oh well, you probably ran into the same problem.  Your hard disk is probably a tiny bit flaky.
[04:31] <neville> back after formatting
[04:31] <Evolution2> oh
[04:32] <etfb> Evolution2: Not enough to cause problems, but enough to confuse Ubuntu.
[04:32] <Evolution2> indeed
[04:33] <Mr_Sonoma> i've added a second hard disk (a 20 gig with windows xp home) and have jumpered to be a slave, but when the system powers up it boots directly into windows, no grub bootloader at all, shouldnt i be able to see grub since grub is loaded on the linux disk, witch is jumpered to be the master drive?
[04:34] <Mr_Sonoma> or did i miss something?
[04:34] <etfb> Mr_Sonoma: Is your BIOS overriding the jumpers?  Can happen with some recent ones.
[04:34] <Mr_Sonoma> hmmmm havent thought that direction
[04:35] <Mr_Sonoma> could be
[04:35] <etfb> Mr_Sonoma: BIOS makers keep fiddling with things to make it "easier".  Trust noone!
[04:35] <Mr_Sonoma> MSI ms6340 main board not real recent
[04:36] <crxyem> michal, the differnce between bit and byte is 8x, but it's the only thing that seems logical, as 500 is not 8x larger then 200
[04:36] <sigma_123> we need a linux bios 2go mainstream!
[04:36] <SJrX> Hmmmm who do I ask KDE 4 RC2 Gutsy Questions too?
[04:36] <sigma_123> might as wel ask them here
[04:37] <SJrX> well actually problem one is that for some reason my screen resolution starts at some wierd value that is incorrect
[04:37] <SJrX> Problem to is that I installed the packages but none of the KDE 4 applications appear to be there
[04:38] <SJrX> i.e. System Settings, KRandrTray KDE4
[04:39] <sigma_123> why not try the livecd? installing it manually can b harder
[04:39] <sigma_123> not to mention riskier
[04:40] <SJrX> hmmmm
[04:40] <SJrX> already installed it
[04:40] <SJrX> and this is a VMWare Machine, so I'm not too concerned
[04:40] <SJrX> as well I'm a hardened veteran.
[04:42] <mrtimbo> how do i move that trash bin onto the desktop
[04:43] <SJrX> Next question is what is the KDE4 equivilant of kicker. It seems to crash when I use KDE 3 krandrtray.
[04:44] <NickPresta> On the nvidia website for the latest binary driver (http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_169.07.html), it shows version 169.07. When I open `nvidia-settings`, I see version: 100.14.19. How does this version number compare to that on the nvidia website? I assume the nvidia driver released on Dec. 20th, isn't available in the repos yet.
[04:44] <NickPresta> hey ardchoille
[04:45] <ardchoille> hi NickPresta  :)
[04:47] <sigma_123> i dont get y people use kicker. its such a mission
[04:47] <SJrX> mission?
[04:47] <bazhang> kbfx is far superior
[04:47] <kye> In order to change the "K" button do i need a icon theme?
[04:47] <SJrX> is that even kde?
[04:48] <sigma_123> kbfx is the alternative kmenu hey?
[04:48] <bazhang> in the repos so yes if you mean does it work with kde--replacement for kmenu
[04:49] <sigma_123> i find it a mission because i find using actual shortcuts easier
[04:49] <SJrX> hmmmm I generally use konsole
[04:50] <sigma_123> btt i gues it depends on wat u use it 4
[04:50] <bazhang> true; useless mostly
[04:50] <sigma_123> lol
[04:51] <sigma_123> i remember kicker. took me about a month2figure out wat it did
[04:51] <bmk789> how do i configure katapult?
[04:52] <bmk789> !katapult
[04:52] <ubotu> katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.
[04:52] <sigma_123> oops i was talking bout katapult.  nt kicker
[04:53] <sigma_123> !kicker
[04:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kicker - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <sigma_123> what is kicker?
[04:54] <bazhang> http://www.kubuntuguide.org/Gutsy#Katapult_Configurations bmk789
[04:54] <kye> In order to change the "K" button do i need a icon theme?
[04:55] <sigma_123> katapult is wat i found 2b utterly useless
[04:56] <sigma_123> i think the k button is one icon. im sure u can change it seperately
[04:56] <bazhang> http://www.kde-look.org/ kye
[04:56] <kye> but im not sure on how to change the icon...
[04:56] <weijianhua> hello
[04:57] <ardchoille> kye: iirc, it's kmenu.png , search for that image and change it
[04:57] <sigma_123> yeah look there. those icons wil hav instructions but whats wrong with the k menu button?
[04:58] <bazhang> kye: do you have access to a prominent search engine? it took me 2 seconds to find that link :}
[04:58] <sigma_123> looks beta that someones start button. lol:)
[05:01] <sigma_123> i wonder how developed kde will be by the time the next microsoft release comes out
[05:01] <bazhang> 2012? probably pretty far along
[05:01] <kye> thank you
[05:01] <sigma_123> it seems 2b catching up in leaps and strides
[05:02] <sigma_123> actually in some aspects its already way ahead of da game
[05:04] <sigma_123> at least it can run on more pcs than windows vista can:)
[05:07] <bmk789> bazhang: thanks
[05:08] <bazhang> no worries bmk789
[05:09] <bmk789> is anyone else using an intel X3100?
[05:13] <paperfunk> nope
[05:15] <bazhang> issues bmk789?
[05:16] <bmk789> bazhang: none yet, just wondering if its worth trying compiz fusion on it
[05:17] <bazhang> bmk789: why not? that seems to be the uber card these days :}
[05:17] <bmk789> i guess ill go for it
[05:20] <bmk789> "Blacklisted PCIID '8086:2a02' found"  doesnt want to run
[05:21] <bmk789> ok now im impressed
[05:21] <bmk789> that was extremely easy
[05:21] <bmk789> and works very smoothly
[05:21] <bmk789> might drop my 6-7 hour battery life though
[05:27] <kkathman> greetings - in File management mode for Konqueror in Gutsy, where is the "Windows" menu option that allows you to split panes vertically and horizontally and thus add panes ?
[05:27] <kkathman> did this go away ?
[05:29] <bazhang> bmk789: haha on the battery life; but likely true
[05:29] <se7en> kkathman: view>split view or ctrl+shif+L
[05:32] <kkathman> se7en:  In previous versions there was an option to split vertical or horizontal
[05:32] <kkathman> se7en:  for instance if I wanted 4 panes in a 2 x 2 grid I could split left right, then split each pane top/bottom
[05:32] <kkathman> oh wait its under the view now??
[05:33] <kkathman> hmm
[05:33] <kkathman> but not available in dolphin :(
[05:34] <se7en> kkathman: dolphin only split into left and right konqueror as often as you like
[05:34] <kkathman> right
[05:36] <momal> Anyone here set up 5.1 before? I can't seem to get my center speaker working. Speaker is pluged in and does work in windows(or if i plug it into another slot) center is turned up in alsa mixer. doesn't work playing mp3s (amarok set in 5.1) or playing dvds that are 5.1 audio. rest of speakers are fine (except rear left/right when playing mp3s)
[05:43] <slim_> hello everyone, I'm having some problems with apache2 on kubuntu.... first one is: I can't seem to get apache to execute .cgi scripts, it just shows it as plain text
[05:46] <slim_> my other problem involves mysql only running once then having a problem restarting... any help on either issue would be appreciated
[05:47] <slim_> I am using 7.10 if that helps
[05:50] <slim_> am I communicating correctly in here?
[05:52] <NickPresta> slim_, yeah but there appears to be no one around who can help you with apache related questions. You might want to try pastebin'ing your whole question and asking it later
[05:54] <slim_> ok thank you, I wasn't sure if my messages were making it through
[05:54] <ardchoille> slim_: And there's always http://ubuntuforums.org
[05:55] <se7en> what does that error in kmail mean Recipient Rejected: Relay not allowed
[05:56] <slim_> ...and google too, right?
[05:56] <NickPresta> slim_, as for the CGI problem, make sure you have: "AddHandler cgi-script .cgi" directive (as well as ExecCGI to the Options directive). Aside from that, I don't know much about the Apache package in the repos.
[05:56]  * NickPresta sighs
[06:31] <Yurivilca> http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Mike_Huckabee_If_you_vote_for_me_you_live_if_you_don_t
[06:31] <Yurivilca> Check out Mike Huckabee's latest psychotic utterance!
[06:40] <WaY> hi
[06:40] <Xplicit> hey
[06:41] <WaY> i dont have my system button on my kbuntu
[06:41] <WaY> how can i access here?
[06:41] <WaY> System -> Preferences -> Appearance
[06:47] <xbehave_> [06:43] <Xplicit> well im not100% as i use a system settings menu from pannel instead but my system settings (windows style 1) is under the command '   systemsettings -caption "%c" %i %m  ' way
[06:57] <shashai> hi there can any one help me plz how to remove network manager ?
[06:57] <shashai> i want to install wicd
[07:01] <xbehave_> does it conflict?
[07:09] <Greenery> how to make kate render the japanese text properly?
[07:11] <Greenery> nvm found it
[07:13] <adamonline46> Hello.  I can't rip a DVD for the life of, doesn anyone have a suggestion that might help me out?
[07:13] <SJrX> don't commit felonies
[07:14] <adamonline46> Hah, I just want to choose which machine I want to watch it on, and store the DVD itself somwhere out of the kids reach
[07:15] <SJrX> hmmm
[07:15] <SJrX> but you live in America. You elected a government which does not believe in Fair Use Rights.
[07:15] <ardchoille> SJrX: That's ot, please take it elsewhere
[07:15] <SJrX> hmmmm
[07:16] <adamonline46> The funny thing about an election is that 49% of folk can disagree with the 'majority', and still be ruled by a government that's humiliated me.
[07:16] <adamonline46> er, something to that effect.  I just want to copy a damn DVD so _I_ can watch it.  If you can help me, please do 8)
[07:17] <ardchoille> !dvd
[07:17] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[07:17] <ardchoille> adamonline46: k9copy does a good job of copying dvd's
[07:18] <SJrX> KDE changes my screen size when I log in. Where do I change this?
[07:19] <hypernewbie> kcontrol
[07:19] <adamonline46> ardchoille: Dang, yeah... That's what I'm using.  It seems to work, but I only get sound and freezing/long-term screenshots when I try to play the ripped AVI's.  Other than that, I can see it ripping, and it doesn't throw any errors.  I'm going on a couple months with this issue, it just resurfaced.  If anyone (or you, ardchoille) might be willing to help me beyond Ubotu calls, I'd be ever grateful 8)
[07:20] <SJrX> hypernewbie that doesn't seem to save ever.
[07:20] <SJrX> and shudder um, this is KDE 4
[07:20] <ardchoille> adamonline46: I know acidrip can rip a dvd into a nice avi, maybe check out acidrip
[07:21] <hypernewbie> SJrX: wierd
[07:21] <adamonline46> SJrX: You can look under /etc/X11/xorg.conf, and delete any screen resolutions that aren't what you want...  I suspect that will 'force' a proper resolution for ya...
[07:21] <adamonline46> ardchoille: I shall, thank you :)
[07:21] <SJrX> hmmmmm that won't work either as I need the other resolution
[07:22] <ardchoille> adamonline46: yw
[07:22] <SJrX> KDE 4 seems to render 1280x1024 backwards.
[07:22] <SJrX> as in it renders 1024x1280
[07:22] <SJrX> and when I resize it, the Kbar doesn't move.
[07:22] <SJrX> which is all but useless.
[07:26] <adamonline46> ardchoille: Well, it seems to be working about as much as k9copy so far... I'll let you know, if you don't mind helpin me out, should this fail 8)
[07:27] <ardchoille> adamonline46: I'm not much at copying dvd's, I have copied one once or twice and I know k9copy and acidrip can do it. Beyond, that I'm afraid I won't be much help.
[07:30] <adamonline46> ardchoille: Very well, I appreciate it... I've got about as much experience as you :)  I think I only own like 8 or so DVDs, I just decided I'd rather not have to hunt through the 'massive' pile to play the one I want; I'm a file kinda guy 8)  Happy holidays, etc; thanks again 8)
[07:32] <ardchoille> yw :)
[07:36] <adamonline46> ardchoille: <3 finally!  :D
[07:41] <ardchoille> adamonline46: Did acidrip do it?
[07:45] <adamonline46> I think so.  It seems to have only ripped one episode (got family guy DVDs for xmas), but it works!  I'm gonna play with it some more and make sure it's the acidrip rip that's functional, I'm almost positive it is 8) Thank again!
[07:47] <ardchoille> Glad it's working, play with it and you might figure out more :)
[07:52] <adamonline46> Yeah, definitely... It's still actin' weird, but at least I got some video out of it... Well, I've got to put it off til tomorrow... Gnight 8)
[08:01] <sigra> How do you set ubuntu to auto login
[08:01] <sigra> on bootup
[08:03] <gryc> sigra: http://linux.about.com/od/kubuntu_doc/a/kubudg35t03.htm
[08:04] <gryc> and with that, anyone know if there's an applet like Kxkb but for languages instead of keyboard layouts?
[08:05] <sigra> i dont have a login manager and not sure which package gives it..when search for it on add/remove program
[08:06] <jussi01> sigra: you are on kubuntu?
[08:07] <sigra> yes but i installed gnome on it..and using gnome
[08:07] <jussi01> sigra: it should be under system settings -> advanced -> sessions
[08:07] <sigra> with kdm on boot
[08:07] <jussi01> sigra: #ubuntu for gnome help ;)
[08:16] <kraut> moin
[08:17] <sigra> I have question.  I am only one with login to my system but when i went log out..it showed another login on the kdm...sabayon-admin?
[08:21] <ardchoille> sigra: sabayon? Are you using kubuntu or sabayon?
[08:21] <sigra> I am using kubuntu
[08:21] <ardchoille> sigra: At the command prompt, type: who
[08:21] <ardchoille> That should tell you who is logged in
[08:22] <sigra> i rebooted just shows me now but when i go to login window.  it shows a user named sabayon-admin with a home directory of  /var/run/sabayon-admin
[08:22] <sigra> when I do who
[08:26] <rbb> hi everyone
[08:27] <sigra> wierd.  not having to give a password to open up add/remove program now either.
[08:28] <ardchoille> sigra: Did you happen to enable the root account?
[08:28] <rbb> i've got a problem. I was messing with xgl, but it didn't work and now i cannot logon. I get the kdm prompt, enter my username and then it doesnt do anything. I just get my background and nothing else
[08:28] <rbb> i also tried to install kde 4 rc
[08:28] <sigra> root dont work on my computer for somereason
[08:29] <sigra> never has
[08:29] <noaXess> !suspend
[08:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suspend - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[08:29] <ardchoille> sigra: That's good, that is the way it's supposed to be
[08:29] <ardchoille> !xgl | rbb
[08:29] <ubotu> rbb: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[08:29] <sigra> but its not asking me for password now..when i enter alot packages it used ask for
[08:30] <rbb> how do I delete that shit
[08:30] <sigra> and I have a user showing up on my list now that i have no ideal who it is
[08:30] <ardchoille> sigra: If you've recently input the password, it won't ask you again for a short time, the admin passwd gets cached
[08:30] <sigra> yeah but i rebooted and just click it and went right on in
[08:30] <ardchoille> rbb: Perhaps someone in #compiz-fusion can help you with xgl stuff.
[08:30] <ardchoille> sigra: Weird
[08:31] <sigra> how do i check to see if root is enabled or not?
[08:31] <rbb> but i DON'T need it. It has to be REMOVED. My GPU isn't supported
[08:32] <rbb> i can start kde manually...
[08:33] <rbb> (failsafe, startkde), but if it's ready, my session is closed and i get another logon prompt
[08:33] <ardchoille> sigra: You can do "sudo cat /etc/shadow" and the root account should be listed with a "!", (example: root:!:) instead of a "*" at the top of that file. That means the root account is locked.
[08:34] <rbb> how do i force xorg to start kde by default? I just installed kde 4 rc2
[08:35] <yesdup> Hi all. does anyone know how to use kgpg to encrypt files. At the moment all it seems to be doing is creating an encryted copy and leaving the original free to be opened???
[08:36] <sigra> there is no ! in the root string
[08:36] <ardchoille> yesdup: In the kgpg options, there is a setting to Shred source files and you can find that in the encrypted section of the kgpg options
[08:37] <ardchoille> sigra: Does it show up as "root:*:" instead?
[08:37] <rbb> when i do "startx" i only get a black&wite back wih an x in the middle
[08:38] <sigra> yes
[08:38] <sigra> hey i figured out why i got sabayon-admin as a user
[08:38] <sigra> its part of that user profile i installed i think lol
[08:39] <sigra> gonna remove that dont need it
[08:39] <ardchoille> sigra: Maybe you set that as the host when you installed?
[08:39] <sigra> no.  I know about root..i was using fedora but jsut switch to this..I never mess with it..i use sudo
[08:40] <ardchoille> ok
[08:40] <sigra> I been using sudo
[08:40] <sigra> how do i turn root off?
[08:41] <rbb> ok , i could start KDE, but not the new 4, but the old 3.5
[08:41] <ardchoille> sigra: To lock the root account: sudo passwd -l root
[08:42] <sigra> says password changed
[08:42] <ardchoille> yes
[08:42] <rbb> where can i find kde in my filesystem?
[08:42] <crazy_bus> I have a weird problem in kaffeine.  When I´m watching a dvd and alt+tab to another program and come back everything inside the windows starts to shake while playing.  It also continues when I pause.  It sometimes stops after a few seconds and other times doesn´t is there any way to fix it?
[08:43] <sigra> thank you ard..now it has that mark !
[08:43] <ardchoille> sigra: Good job :)
[08:43] <rbb> anyone?
[08:43] <rbb> where can i find the kde dir on my filesystem?
[08:43] <yesdup> Now does anyone know why i cant connect to gmail chat using jabber. i've double checked password and user name, also tried without firewall (gaurddog) i have jabber and irc ports open. Kopete says "cannot contect as service is not allowed" ???
[08:44] <sigra> now figure out why amarok which was workign great..is now saying i have no plug ins and other errors.  i been googling ..seems there is very bad bug with it
[08:44] <ardchoille> rbb: find / -type d kde
[08:45] <ardchoille> yesdup: I didn't know you could use jabber to connect to gmail
[08:45] <dhq>  is there any finger print software for linux
[08:46] <ardchoille> yesdup: gmail is an email protocol, jabber is a chat protocol, I could be wrong, but I don't think they can connect to each other
[08:46] <yesdup> Opps did i read wrong some where  :-(
[08:47] <ardchoille> yesdup: Maybe you did, or maybe you confused gmail with google talk?
[08:47] <yesdup> Yes i meant google talk. but i use my gmail account to access
[08:48] <ardchoille> yesdup: I don't think jabber can do that
[08:49] <yesdup> http://www.asinen.org/info/kopetetalk/ just found this quickly.
[08:49] <rbb> found it
[08:49] <rbb> bye
[08:50] <ardchoille> yesdup: I stand corrected. And thank you, that is information I didn't previously have.
[08:52] <patrick_> Hallo! I have an ATI Mobility X1400. When I updated to the december driver release of ATI my resolution sucks. I don't get my 1600 which i had previously... any idea what could be the problem?
[09:02] <yesdup> Just for info. finnally connected to google talk. all connection options must be checked
[09:02] <yesdup> also the server is talk.google.com not gmail.com
[09:23] <rioner> hello
[09:23] <jussi01> !hi
[09:23] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[09:24] <rioner> any one know how to comprees file with split 100 MB for every parts of a file..?
[09:24] <rioner> any one know how to comprees file using KONSOLE with split 100 MB for every parts of a file..?
[09:28] <arturo> =S
[09:28] <arturo> hola?
[09:30] <ardchoille> Hi arturo
[09:30] <jussi01> !es | ardchoille
[09:30] <ubotu> ardchoille: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[09:30] <jussi01> !es | arturo
[09:30] <ubotu> arturo: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[09:31] <arturo> =O thank's =)
[09:31]  * ardchoille blinks
[09:31] <rioner> any one know how to comprees file using KONSOLE with split 100 MB for every parts of a file..?
[09:32] <ardchoille> rioner: I can only point you to the manpage for tar, I think tar can do that.
[09:32] <jussi01> !tar
[09:32] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[09:35] <rioner>  <ardchoille> rioner: I can only point you to the manpage for tar, I think tar can do that.  <<< How and where the main page ?
[09:36] <llutz> rioner: "man tar" in a console
[09:36] <jussi01> rioner: type man tar
[09:36] <jussi01> !man
[09:36] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or type man:/ in Konqueror's location bar. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[09:42] <corporeal> aaaah finally home in my dear kubuntu
[09:42] <corporeal> how i missed you
[09:42]  * corporeal swears never to put vista on this thing again
[09:51] <sarve> hi
[09:51] <jussi01> !hi | sarve
[09:51] <ubotu> sarve: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[09:52] <sarve> is it possible to have both kde and gnome
[09:52] <corporeal> sarve: of course.
[09:52] <sarve> ?
[09:52] <corporeal> sarve: i personally install ubuntu-desktop and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop on top of it. i get both kde3 and whatever gnome version comes with ubuntu
[09:53] <corporeal> sarve: if you wanna get real crazy, get ubuntu-server and apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, then xubuntu-desktop, then kubuntu-desktop. :-p
[09:53] <sarve> I know that i can find these information by searching google. but its fun to chat about it
[09:53] <corporeal> :-p
[09:55] <sarve> my monitor is kind of low, I'm now downloading alternate cd of ubuntu 7.10, is it possible to install kde on ubuntu later too?
[09:55] <sarve> i'm totally newbie on linux(kubuntu 7.04), i'm trying to learn more and then install it on my laptop
[09:56] <corporeal> sarve: of course it is. hehe
[09:56] <emilsedgh> sarve: yes its possible
[09:56] <corporeal> sarve: doing things on linux as far as software installation and removal, is such a far cry from what you're probably used to (on windows?) it'll blow your mind
[09:59] <sarve> tell me about it, I used to work with corel linux on my pentium II but those days it seems like a hobby. but switching completely to linux is another story. although its really difficult to install a sotware whish is not listed in add/remove.
[10:02] <unix> a low ha
[10:03] <unix> any body here
[10:03] <pag> unix, 297 nicks at the moment ;)
[10:03] <unix_> later
[10:06] <sarve> i really miss itunes on linux. specially cover flow option. is there any clone for linux?
[10:06] <Lynoure> What is the cover flow option?
[10:06] <sarve> i dont need to work with ipod. i just miss the apple design
[10:07] <sarve> cover flow, when you see album artwork in a row with refelction
[10:07] <Lynoure> you can see album artwork in amarok, too, but not in that variant of eyecandy
[10:08] <sarve> for moree info: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5c/ITunes_7.5.png/800px-ITunes_7.5.png
[10:09] <sarve> yes i know. why apple doesn't want to make a linux version
[10:09] <sarve> I remeber a link on digg.com but it doesn't convince me
[10:10] <Lynoure> sarve: you could write them and ask.
[10:11] <Lynoure> Probably one reason they don't make a linux version is that most people do not ask for one
[10:12] <sarve> which OS has more user? OSX or Linux?
[10:13] <ardchoille> !ot | sarve
[10:13] <ubotu> sarve: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[10:13] <sarve> oh thank you. sorry
[10:15] <noobuntu> i have this problem. how can it be solved? wlan0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[10:48] <milestone> hi all
[10:48] <milestone> is it possible within kmail to convert an existing imap account to a disconnected imap account?
[10:50] <crazy_bus> I'm trying to view a dvd on my old computer.  But when-ever their cpu activity it's extremly jittery.  Feisty and previous versions never had this problem.  Is there anyway to fix it?
[10:54] <ardchoille> !dma | crazy_bus
[10:54] <ubotu> crazy_bus: dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[11:04] <crazy_bus> ardchoille: it seems I have dma enabled
[11:05] <poison> mornin guys
[11:06] <jpatrick> moin
[11:06] <poison> im havin a TK error with aMSN whilke trying to access any users log
[11:06] <poison> while*
[11:07] <jpatrick> well, I've always used Kopete
[11:09] <michael> Good morning
[11:09] <michael> what makes USB ports stop working?
[11:10] <michael> they all have power, but they are not running my printer/flash drive/ipod or anything
[11:10] <michael> once in a while they will work, but the next day they wont
[11:11] <michael> it started happening after a fresh install of 7.10
[11:11] <michael> weird
[11:15] <Thecks> Is it possible to upgrade to KDE4 RC2 without overwriting my KDE install?
[11:15] <Thecks> For instance, I was on Gnome (Ubuntu), Installed KDE via apt and now I can select both from the login menu
[11:15] <Thecks> Can I do the same for KDE 4?
[11:17] <Jucato> Thecks: yep. that's the way it's set up right now
[11:17] <Jucato> KDE4 RC2 will install in a different directory
[11:17] <Thecks> Awesome, do I get it via apt?
[11:18] <Thecks> I can see how to get it and build via SVN but... =p
[11:19] <pag> Thecks, consider reading the topic ;)
[11:19] <Thecks> I'll consider it =P ty
[11:20] <Thecks> FAQs?
[11:20] <pag> " KDE 4.0 RC2 Package & LiveCD http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php " ;)
[11:22] <michael> what makes USB ports stop working?
[11:23] <michael> it started happening after a fresh install of 7.10
[11:23] <michael> once in a while they will work, but the next day they wont
[11:23] <michael> they all have power, but they are not running my printer/flash drive/ipod or anything
[11:25] <Thecks> Thanks.. lots of downloading to do now =p
[11:27] <foibles> whoa, has anyone tried elive yet?
[11:27] <foibles> im on it right now, and its awesome
[11:27] <Thecks> I've tried it, wasn't too impressed to be honest =[
[11:27] <foibles> the way they put it together is excellent
[11:27] <foibles> Thecks, why not?
[11:28] <Thecks> Too many things didn't work as I wanted
[11:28] <Thecks> E.g. SD card readers and such
[11:28] <foibles> Thecks, its all working out nicely for me
[11:28] <foibles> even recognized my legacy video drivers
[11:28] <foibles> which most distros miss the mark on
[11:33] <michael> love the OSX look
[11:34] <sarve> i download firefox 3 beta and unzip it. but i don't know how to istall it. I searched on the internet but i can't found out.
[11:36] <sarve> thers is "run-mozilla.sh" file, but i can not run it with "sh" command
[11:39] <Ubuntubruger3> Hello there. I'm new to Linux and recently installed Ubuntu. Yesterday I added the Kubuntu-desktop. How do I active the compiz-fusion in Kubuntu? (it already works in Ubuntu)
[11:40] <emilsedgh> !compiz | Ubuntubruger3
[11:40] <ubotu> Ubuntubruger3: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[11:41] <Ubuntubruger3> thx
[11:41] <Ubuntubruger3> !compiz
[11:41] <ciao> hi
[11:41] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[11:42] <sarve> how can i install firefox beta on linux. I already download the zip(bz2) file
[11:42] <stdin> Ubuntubruger3: make sure you install "compiz-kde" and the press Alt-F2 and put in "compiz --replace"
[11:43] <ciao> would it work with 512 mb ram?
[11:43] <bazhang> sarve: it is in the repos if you want to try
[11:43] <stdin> ciao: kubuntu? yeah 512 is fine
[11:43] <ciao> compiz
[11:43] <bazhang> !info firefox-3.0
[11:44] <ubotu> firefox-3.0: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla (Development Version). In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0~alpha8+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 1130 kB, installed size 3832 kB
[11:44] <stdin> ciao: depends on what graphics card
[11:44] <ciao> I'm already in kubuntu finally....after messing around with vista and xp
[11:44] <ciao> I think 5400
[11:44] <stdin> ciao: nvidia or ati or what?
[11:44] <ciao> nvidia
[11:44] <stdin> ciao: as long as you install the nvidia driver, it should work fine
[11:44] <ciao> just installed on kubuntu
[11:45] <ciao> oooooook so I'll try thx
[11:45] <sarve> bazhang: even the beta version?
[11:45] <Thecks> uhmm..
[11:45] <Thecks> Install the updated kdebase-bin
[11:45] <Thecks> Install kdebase-workspace kdebase-kde4 kdebase-runtime, note that PPAs aren't authenticated so you will likely get a warning when installing
[11:45] <etfb> My Alt+Tab behaviour changed after I installed (and uninstalled) Compiz.  It doesn't display the icons and titles in a window, just swaps immediately to the next task even when I hold the keys down.  Any idea how to get the default behaviour back?
[11:45] <bazhang> sarve: apparently not
[11:45] <Thecks> I did that, yet I don't see any new apps, and I don't see any new option in the session menu for KDE 4..
[11:45] <stdin> ciao: if you installed 7.10 (gutsy), just go to System Settings -> Advanced (tab) -> Restricted Drivers  and activate the driver :)
[11:46] <ciao> ok I'll do it
[11:46] <stdin> Thecks: you installed all the packages yet?
[11:47] <Thecks> stdin yup
[11:47] <Thecks> I did: sudo apt-get install kdebase-bin
[11:47] <Thecks> And the same for kdebase-workspace, kdebase-kde4, kdebase-runtime
[11:49] <stdin> Thecks: have you tried logging out and seeing what sessions are available? (or switching user and starting a new session)
[11:49] <Thecks> I restarted X, checked.. nothing
[11:49] <Thecks> Restarted system, checked.. nothing
[11:49] <stdin> does /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop exist on your system?
[11:50] <Thecks> No
[11:50] <Thecks> @venus:/usr/share/xsessions$ ls
[11:50] <Thecks> gnome.desktop  kde.desktop
[11:50] <etfb> Has anyone got compiz to work in KDE?  It messed my system up completely when I tried, and I still have symptoms after removing it.  Any positive experiences?
[11:51] <stdin> Thecks: try this "sudo apt-get install kdebase-workspace kdebase-kde4 kdebase-runtime" and see if it wants to install anything else?
[11:51] <Thecks> ok
[11:52] <Thecks> Nope.. nothing
[11:52] <Thecks> Reading state information... Done
[11:52] <Thecks> kdebase-workspace is already the newest version.
[11:52] <Thecks> kdebase-kde4 is already the newest version.
[11:52] <Thecks> kdebase-runtime is already the newest version.
[11:52] <Thecks> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 36 not upgraded.
[11:52] <stdin> Thecks: check if kdebase-workspace-data is installed
[11:53] <ciao> it won't let me modify ..I click on modify as root but nothing happens
[11:53] <Thecks> kdebase-workspace-data is already the newest version.
[11:53] <Thecks> kdebase-workspace-data set to manual installed.
[11:54] <stdin> Thecks: /usr/share/xsessions/kde4.desktop is in kdebase-workspace-data
[11:54] <Thecks> Then that's weird
[11:54] <stdin> ciao: what won't?
[11:54] <Thecks> It says that it is installed and is the newest version
[11:55] <stdin> Thecks: what version is that package?
[11:55] <Thecks> How do I check?
[11:55] <ciao> in system settings advance restricted drivers....you can tick on the drivers but only if you are root....there's a botton that says become root but it doesnt wor
[11:55] <ciao> k
[11:55] <stdin> Thecks:  "apt-cache policy kdebase-workspace-data"
[11:56] <stdin> ciao: that's odd, try closing that down and running it directly as root by pressing Alt-F2 and putting in "kdesu systemsettings"
[11:56] <Thecks> Thanks
[11:56] <Thecks>   Installed: 4:3.96.0-1ubuntu4~gutsy1
[11:56] <Thecks>   Candidate: 4:3.96.0-1ubuntu4~gutsy1
[11:56] <Thecks> *** 4:3.96.0-1ubuntu4~gutsy1 0
[11:56] <Thecks>         500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-backports/universe Packages
[11:56] <Thecks>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[11:56] <Thecks>      3.94.0-0ubuntu2 0
[11:56] <Thecks>         500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com gutsy/universe Packages
[11:57] <stdin> Thecks: that's RC1, not RC2
[11:57] <Thecks> huh..
[11:57] <Thecks> I followed the instructions on here..
[11:57] <stdin> Thecks: make sure you added the http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu repo
[11:57] <Thecks> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[11:57] <Thecks> I added http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu gutsy main
[11:57] <stdin> Thecks: and you ran "sudo apt-get update" before installing the packages?
[11:57] <ciao> there's an error it says control that dcopserver is installed
[11:58] <Thecks> stdin: No.. no I didnt :s
[11:58]  * Thecks hides
[11:58] <stdin> Thecks: well, that's why :p, make sure you remove those old packages before installing the new ones or you'll have trouble
[11:58] <stdin> ciao: what's the exact error that pops up?
[11:59] <Thecks> So, what do I do from here?
[11:59] <Thecks> I've run update
[11:59] <ciao> it's in italian lol...so I'm translating it
[11:59] <Thecks> Do I reinstall the KDE 4 packages?
[11:59] <ciao> ok
[11:59] <ciao> I did it
[11:59] <ciao> thanks ...it was in the right down corner
[11:59] <stdin> Thecks: after removing the old ones (it says how on the instructions) you just install the packages again
[11:59] <ciao> restricted driver icon I pressed it and ticked it
[12:00] <Thecks> Ok
[12:00] <stdin> ciao: ok, it'll install the driver then ask you to reboot. after that it should be ready to go and you can get compiz on it
[12:00] <ciao> I installed the driver manually first
[12:00] <Thecks> Thank you stdin
[12:01]  * Thecks gives stdin several cookies
[12:01] <stdin> Thecks: no problem :)
[12:01] <ciao> sudo sh nvidia-blabla.run
[12:01] <ciao> stopping the kdm and all that
[12:02] <stdin> ciao: ah, well that's not the best way to do it, you'll have to reinstall the driver if there's ever a kernel update. but if it's all installed and working you can go ahead and install compiz
[12:02] <ciao> ok I didn't know that ..now I should wait for the next error
[12:03] <ciao> I'll try to install compiz...what's the easiest way?
[12:03] <stdin> !compiz | ciao, follow this guide
[12:03] <ubotu> ciao, follow this guide: Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[12:04] <ciao> ok thank youuuuuu
[12:04] <stdin> :)
[12:14] <rbb> i've got a problem with kde 4
[12:15] <rbb> I hit kde4 in the KDM and it doesn't do anything
[12:15] <rbb> after a while, i get a new login prompt
[12:16] <rbb> anyone?
[12:20] <rbb> sorry, the systemcrashed
[12:20] <rbb> my system crashes every time I run startkde of kde4
[12:21] <rbb> and kdm doesnt do anything usefull
[12:21] <rbb> please ehelp
[12:21] <rbb> my sysyem does't do anything
[12:21] <rbb> srry, system
[12:22] <SSJ_GZ> rbb: It's still pre-release software, I'm afraid - crashing is still quite likely :/
[12:22] <Pici> KDE4 is beta. Expect issues. Plus this channel doesn't seem particularly active at this time, so be patient.
[12:23] <rbb> Anow the whole system is messed up
[12:23] <Thecks> Yeah, I've got problems
[12:23] <Thecks> Just updated and now Adept keeps saying the database is in use
[12:23] <Pici> !adeptfix
[12:23] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[12:23] <rbb> on the console, there are  -'-s flickering all over the screens
[12:23] <hussain> f
[12:24] <Thecks> Awesome
[12:24] <rbb> and kde3 is also messed up
[12:24] <rbb> and kdm doesn't do anything anymore
[12:24] <rbb> kdm only runs "failsafe"
[12:25] <ueila> !compiz
[12:25] <ubotu> Kubuntu is not shipping with compiz installed or enabled by default. You can still install it and have your eyecandy goodness. The instructions are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/CompizFusion - further help in #compiz-fusion
[12:29] <taime1> what is the name of the window decoration in kubuntu?
[12:29] <bazhang> kwin taime1
[12:29] <taime1> its named after the window manager?
[12:30] <bazhang> kde is the desktop environment
[12:30] <taime1> you didnt understand my question
[12:30] <taime1> what is the name of the decoration?
[12:31] <taime1> the default decoration
[12:31] <pag> taime1, default decoration is called 'crystal' iirc
[12:31] <bazhang> taime1: me?
[12:31] <taime1> ah thanks
[12:32] <zipper> I have a logitech mx518 usb mouse. It has a "+" and "-" button for DPI increase/decrease. I want to remap these buttons to pageUP and pageDOWN. Every other button works with Device evdev in xorg.conf. What to do?
[12:37] <ciao> I have dual boot...give me some reasons to get rid of xp...I want to do it but I'm afraid
[12:37] <Lynoure> ciao: What are you afraid of?
[12:38] <ciao> I dk...I have tools and things that I'm used to...like visual web developer (i know everyone will hate me)..and actually I never tried to search the equivalent for linux
[12:38] <Lynoure> ciao: You could keep it until you only use it less than once a month. At that time you'll have to install upgrades to it every time, and that is pretty motivating for removing it :)
[12:38] <ciao> or devC++, but eclipse rules and I use it here
[12:39] <ciao> oooooook so from now on I'll do this
[12:40] <ubuntu_> ya quelqu'un ?
[12:40] <jpatrick> !fr | ubuntu_
[12:40] <ubotu> ubuntu_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:41] <ciao> oui
[12:41] <ubuntu_> c'est bon là ?
[12:41] <ubuntu_> ah oui ^
[12:41] <ubuntu_> bonjour
[12:41] <ciao> moi j'essayerais a aller en italien
[12:41] <Pici> !it
[12:41] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:42] <ubuntu_> euh...ya unnn français ?
[12:42] <jpatrick> ubuntu_: /join #ubuntu-fr
[12:42] <ubuntu_> là c'est bon ?
[12:43] <ubuntu_> ya un français ?
[12:43] <herr_weltschaft> firefox: lesezeichen>lesezeichen-manager>exportieren funktioniet nicht so, wie es soll. in der so gespeicherten datei "bookmarks.html" steht dann nur ein einziges meiner lesezeichen
[12:43] <jpatrick> !de | herr_weltschaft
[12:43] <ubotu> herr_weltschaft: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:43] <herr_weltschaft> oh sorry
[12:45] <ueila> in some forums I saw that kubuntu is slower than ubuntu....but I didn't notice that much...actually in some things kubuntu is faster
[12:45] <ueila> is that right?
[12:45] <bazhang> not much difference
[12:49] <zipper> ueila: i *think* gnome might be a tad bit faster than gnome, although that should change when KDE4 is released
[12:51] <bazhang> gnome faster than gnome? perhaps :}
[12:52] <zipper> eh
[12:52] <zipper> gnome fastert than kde =)
[12:53] <zipper> i'm really on a roll today
[12:53] <zipper> faster*
[12:53] <bazhang> hehe
[12:55] <Thecks> KDE 4 is.... big...
[12:56] <jpatrick> Thecks: some consider it faster than 3
[12:56] <Thecks> Oh Speed it's nice
[12:56] <Thecks> I'm talking about the huge task bar at the bottom
[12:57] <Thecks> Trying to work out how to resize it
[12:57] <dm> Hello. I have a usb webcam 0c45:602c which is supported by the ubuntu included gspca driver. When plugging it in the driver is loaded (say dmesg and lsmod) and /dev/video0 is created. But I get error messages when trying to use it: xawtv says "X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode", camorama "Could not connect to /dev/video0". It's an ATI video card (if that matters). Any idea?
[13:07] <Thecks> uhmm.. I'm not sure I like the look of KDE 5
[13:08] <Thecks> KDE 4*
[13:10] <ueila> is there a way to chat directly in terminal and not irc? I'm using irssi now....I mean like inserting the ip or something
[13:11] <kalorin> ueila: not really
[13:11] <Dragnslcr> You can telnet to the IRC server if you want to
[13:11] <kalorin> it'd be like asking if there's a way to surf the web in a terminal, in any case you need a client even if it's a text mode client
[13:11] <ueila> =( that would be awsome
[13:11] <Dragnslcr> It'd be a complete pain, but you're welcome to try
[13:12] <kalorin> its' more about the protocols than anything else
[13:12] <kalorin> you'd have to know how to preface joins adn parts and nick changes and all the other stuff that IRC clients do for you
[13:12] <ueila> it would be shell messenger :D
[13:12] <ueila> yes I imagine the suffering
[13:16] <antixpaul> !lynx
[13:16] <ubotu> Browsers available for Ubuntu: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), w3m (terminal-based), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), edbrowse (command-line), Opera (Qt, proprietary)
[13:22] <ueila> damir
[13:22] <ueila> sei damir di lugano?
[13:23] <damir> hi!
[13:23] <damir> english?
[13:23] <ueila> ok no it's not you :D
[13:24] <pawan> hi
[13:27] <damir> I have a little trouble installing ubuntu 7.10 :\
[13:28] <damir> the installer hangs when 'scanning partitions', thats about 15% progress
[13:28] <zipper> How do one use mono? I have a .net 2.0 application i want to see run in linux
[13:30] <dm> When I run `xawtv -hwscan` I get "/dev/video0: OK  \n  type: v4l2  \n  name: SN9C1xx PC Camera  \n  flags: capture" but when I can't start xawtv and get "X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode". What's the problem here?
[13:36] <noaXess> hi all
[13:36] <noaXess> i put some own apps to my home folder to the subfolder apps..
[13:37] <noaXess> if i want run this apps over command line and want only put in the executable from the app, without the whole path, where can i define this PATH variable?
[13:38] <Pici> noaXess: add PATH=$PATH:/home/user/apps to your ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile
[13:38] <Sanne> noaXess: I would make a link to your executable in /usr/local/bin
[13:38] <Sanne> or what Pici said :)
[13:39] <Pici> iirc, ~/bin/ is aleady in the path, whether it exists or not.
[13:40] <Sanne> noaXess: you can check your current PATH by typing: echo $PATH
[13:41] <Baldrun> hi all
[13:42] <Baldrun> I am trying to use nfs in combination with acl under kubuntu, unfortunately I can't find any info on how to set up acl fpr kubuntu, could anyone give me a hint or an idea? google results were not helpful so far
[13:43] <noaXess> Pici: thanks...
[13:47] <Tonren> I just did a fresh install of Kubuntu 7.10.  My splash graphic is not appearing on boot-up, so I can't see how far into the boot process I am.  (Also it's disconcerting to see absolutely nothing happening on the screen).  How do I enable my boot splash?
[13:48] <damir> you probably need to change x display settings
[13:48] <Tonren> damir: How do I do that?
[13:49] <damir> well, you could edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but you need to know what you're doing
[13:49] <Tonren> damir: I tend to know, but I don't know what I should change in xorg.conf to enable bootsplash.
[13:49] <Tonren> damir: I have a crappy integrated ATI 300Mobile graphics card, for which the restricted drivers have been enabled.  Could the problem be there?
[13:50] <damir> hm.. possibly. did you see a bootsplash on 1st boot-up?
[13:50] <damir> and, does login screen look ok?
[13:50] <Tonren> damir: Unfortunately, I can't remember if I saw a bootsplash before they were enabled.  THe login screen looks just fine, though.
[13:51] <Tonren> damir: My graphics driver is set to "fglrx", which I've heard awful things about.  Should I try changing it to ATI?
[13:51] <damir> do you see a progress screen on system shut-down?
[13:51] <Tonren> damir: No.
[13:52] <damir> yeah, try setting to 'ati'. but make a copy of xorg.conf before you do that. it could mess up your display
[13:52] <Tonren> damir: Don't worry, I know how to log in on the command line and edit xorg.conf without a GUI.  No need for a backup.
[13:52] <Tonren> damir: Should I just restart X or completely shut down?  The problem areas seemed to be with startup & shutdown, but it's kind of a hassle.
[13:53] <damir> for start, just restart x-server and see if your login screen is ok
[13:53] <damir> after setting to ati
[13:53] <Tonren> damir: Okey doke.  Here goes.
[13:53] <damir> one more think
[13:53] <damir> thing
[13:53] <damir> will you know how to revert changes if your screen is messed up or your x-server doesn't wake up?
[13:54] <Tonren> damir: Okay, my login screen is fine.
[13:55] <damir> cool :)
[13:55] <Tonren> damir: I'm IRC'ing on a screen'd irssi session on Ctrl + Alt + F1's terminal right now.  :-P
[13:55] <Tonren> damir: I guess I'll try restarting now.
[13:55] <damir> k, good luck
[13:55] <Tonren> Thanks!  I'll be back to bellyache if it doesn't work.  :D
[14:02] <Tonren> damir: No dice.  :-\
[14:02] <Sanne> Tonren: you could disable it altogether and at least get the normal text boot messages
[14:02] <damir> try setting driver to 'vesa' just to see if it's really a driver issue
[14:03] <Tonren> Sanne: Naw, I'd rather figure out what's wrong and get the shiny boot splash.
[14:03] <Tonren> damir: Good idea.  A moment, though; I'm going to Google for a second, and check the logs too.
[14:03] <Sanne> Tonren: ok, good hunt :)
[14:04] <fairman> Hi, i need support for right settings resolutions and frequency on my monitor. Corresponding part of xorg.conf is here - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/49682/. I can use only the resolution 800x600 ... why? When i set the "driver" to "nv" instead of "nvidia" it is ok, but i can not use openGL support
[14:05] <noaXess> is there a kde mounting tool, that really mounts the networkshare ot any given mount.point? so i can access it over different app?
[14:05] <Sanne> Tonren: two bugs, might be related, might want to look over them: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/90242
[14:05] <Sanne> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/156225
[14:05] <Tonren> Sanne: Oh god... The "ati" driver's performance is AWFUL compared to "fglrx".
[14:05] <noaXess> i can manually mount a windows share to any mount point, eg. /home/user/server/share-name.. but a gui will be nice?
[14:06] <Tonren> Sanne: Dear god... the fix might be a CUSTOM KERNEL?!
[14:07] <Sanne> Tonren: dunno, just found those bugs and thought they might help you in some way :)
[14:07] <Tonren> Sanne: Haha, thanks.  I sure hope I don't need to compile my own kernel.
[14:07] <Tonren> Maybe if I just reinstall or reconfigure the bootsplash package...
[14:07] <Sanne> Tonren: before doing that I really would just turn the splash off ;)
[14:08] <Sanne> Tonren: before compiling a kernel, I mean
[14:08] <Tonren> Sanne: Didn't your grampa tell you to never give up?  ;P
[14:08] <Baldrun> has anyone acl working under kubuntu?
[14:09] <Sanne> Tonren: haha... *I* turned that darn thing off right away, I *want* to see the boot messages ;)
[14:09] <Tonren> Sanne: I used to feel that way, but I prefer the terse, shiny startup screen now. If something goes wrong, I just check the logs.
[14:10] <Sanne> Tonren: in that case, I wouldn't give up either, but if it's a known bug and you got bitten by it, you might need to build a kernel. So there ;)
[14:11] <Tonren> Sanne: True, true.
[14:11] <Sanne> :)
[14:12] <noaXess> any idea? a gui for handling mount points and add diffrent mount point like a network share?
[14:13] <jpatrick> noaXess: Filesystems in System Settings?
[14:15] <noaXess> jpatrick: aha.. i see, there i can also add shares.. not only physical mounts :) thanks
[14:19] <risto> php's room is down ?
[14:19] <stdin> risto: you need to be identified to join it
[14:23] <noaXess> jpatrick: i don't know why... but i can configure all to connection to a win share but if i click ok, nothing happens..
[14:23] <noaXess> adding a network share over dolphin works, with the same settings.. but then no mount point will be created..
[14:24] <Tonren> Damn.
[14:33] <Tonren> Arrgh!  How could this really need a custom-compiled kernel!?
[14:34] <Sanne> Because it's a bug?
[14:34] <Tonren> For some reason, every Ubuntu update breaks something on my laptop.
[14:35] <Tonren> On 6.10, my scanner GUIs stopped working.  7.04?  Compiz crapped out.  (though that's not really surprising.)  Now, my bootsplash is gone.
[14:37] <axe> ciao
[14:38] <axe> ho bisogno di aiuto per ubuntu qualcuno mi puo aiutare ?
[14:39] <Jucato> !it | axe
[14:39] <ubotu> axe: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:39] <axe> ok
[14:39] <axe> grazie
[14:40] <Jeroi> !fi | Jeroi
[14:41] <Karti> Hi all, anyone recommend software for mobile phones so I can put data to Kontact etc
[14:41] <zipper> What is the keyboard shortcut to "Show Desktop" - like win + d in windows xp
[14:41] <Jeroi> Karti does thunderbird have mobilephone support in addons?
[14:42] <Jeroi> zipper you need only one mouse klick
[14:42] <Jeroi> 2nd image from left oh K-menu
[14:42] <Jeroi> *of
[14:42] <zipper> Jeroi: i dont want 1 mouse click =/
[14:42] <zipper> i want a keyboard shortcut
[14:42] <Jeroi> :)
[14:43]  * Tm_T slaps Jeroi
[14:43] <Karti> Jeroi: I was looking at the equivalent of the nokia pc suite type of thing
[14:43] <Tm_T> Karti: gammu & wammu ?
[14:43] <damir> zipper: what system version and what desktop manager?
[14:44] <Sanne> zipper: alt+ctrl+d here (it's customizable)
[14:44] <Tm_T> Jeroi: -fi is the key btw
[14:44] <damir> yay almost completed! i'm updating my 7.04 kubuntu. it's like, 550M of updates
[14:44] <zipper> damir: kubuntu 7.10, guess that means kde3.55
[14:45] <damir> zipper: like Sanne said :)
[14:45] <zipper> Sanne: ah, that works, thanks. Cant find it in keyboard & mouse settings though?
[14:45] <zipper> ah nvm
[14:45] <Sanne> zipper: I found it in Regional&Accessibility (Kubuntu Dapper)
[14:45] <zipper> i'm blind, found it
[14:45] <zipper> thanks
[14:45] <Sanne> :)
[14:46]  * Sanne would expect it in keyboard & mouse also
[14:46] <Karti> Tm_T: Many thnks will look at those  Cheers
[14:47] <TheGateKeeper> !fstab
[14:47] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions
[15:11] <infosys> Buona sera a tutti
[15:11] <BluesKaj> Howdy all  : -)
[15:11] <infosys> server italiano?
[15:11] <BluesKaj> !it | infosys
[15:11] <ubotu> infosys: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:12] <nightf0x> hi, i am running kubuntu 7.10 and it does not want to shutdown. wihtout splash screen it seems to hang at line that says something like "running local boot scripts"
[15:13] <nightf0x> the only way to pwer it down from that is to kill power
[15:13] <nightf0x> anyone know how to fix this?
[15:17] <BluesKaj> nightf0x:  'til you find what script is hanging the powerdown , try ctrl+alt+backspace, then use the login menu to shutdown . I had the same problem at one time and an update of some sort fixed it.
[15:18] <okkiopallato> pescara
[15:18] <stdin> !it | okkiopallato
[15:19] <ubotu> okkiopallato: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:19] <tekteen> D-MAN: r u here?
[15:19] <jussi01> !u | tekteen
[15:19] <ubotu> tekteen: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officier, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun.  If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you".  The same goes for "why", "because", "anyone", and so on..
[15:19] <tekteen> jussi01: ok
[15:19] <jussi01> :)