[06:47] <alexey_knyshev> -rfakeroot
[06:47] <drinxtir> Imstanding can you pull the hd from the laptop an put it in good comp?
[06:47] <ImStanding> I don't know how to do that
[06:48] <ImStanding> td-
[06:49] <ImStanding> tj-
[06:50] <TJ-> ImStanding: There's not alot we can do... you've found the problem... corrupted discs.
[06:50] <TJ-> alexey_knyshev: I presume the fakeroot package is installed? :D
[06:50] <ImStanding> TJ- how do I fix this?
[06:51] <keeb> oh well, i guess i know the limiation of this ubuntu install
[06:51] <keeb> back to gentoo.
[06:51] <TJ-> ImStanding: the usual suggestion is to use a different brand of discs... do you have any rewriteables to save wasting discs?
[06:51] <ImStanding> TJ-  brb
 yes
[06:52] <sergiu> Linux is crappy, should end. Windows for the future
[06:52] <fishbait> how do i tell rsnapshot to snapshot sda and sbd then save to sdc?
[06:52] <keeb> before i trash the install, anyone interested in seeing what it looks like?
[06:53] <keeb> http://i.imgur.com/NLFRw.jpg - my desktop
[06:53] <TJ-> alexey_knyshev: Dod you capture a log of the build so we can read it? If not, run it again but capture to a log file doing "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot <package> 2>&1 | tee build.log"
[06:55] <sergiu> does wine use windows library to run games?
[06:56] <sergiu> !ping
[06:56] <ImStanding> !ping
[06:57] <ImStanding> lol
[06:57] <cubix`> The PING request on sergiu has timed out
[06:57] <fishbait> wow someone just dissed linux in a linux support then asked about a windows emulator for linux never thought i'd see spmething that absurd.
[06:58] <sergiu> does that wine use windows closed-source library to run games
[06:58] <sergiu> :)
[06:58] <dzup> its a troll, its a troll! ...hmm its alive! ...
[06:58] <sergiu> dzup hi
[06:59] <sergiu> its morning so noone answer
[06:59] <dzup> sergiu: /join #ubuntu-social
[06:59] <sergiu> does anyone know, wine does use windows files for games
[06:59] <sergiu> oh
[06:59] <sergiu> not here
[06:59] <fishbait> sergiu did windows force their browser on everyone then get in trouble for it and 5 years later release an epic fail of an os?
[07:00] <Flannel> sergiu: No, Wine doesn't use Windows files.
[07:00] <sergiu> fishbait i don't use windows, Iron SWare
[07:00] <TJ-> I'd think #wine might be a better place for that question
[07:00] <livingdaylight> Hi
[07:01] <gnomefreak> its wine-hq iirc
[07:01] <sergiu> Flannel, i just want to install linux and some games with wine, just don't want some microsoft file in wine
[07:01] <livingdaylight> wondering whether to use 32 or 64 bit
[07:01] <sergiu> or closed library
[07:01] <TJ-> Or even #winehq
[07:01] <Flannel> sergiu: That's fine.  Wine is LGPL.
[07:01] <gnomefreak> or winehq
[07:01] <hwkiller-netbook> No, there are no windows files within WINE
[07:01] <hwkiller-netbook> it is fully from scratch
[07:02] <TJ-> livingdaylight: how much RAM does the PC have? more than 2GB you might see advantages using the 64-bit installation.
[07:02] <livingdaylight> I have i 3 with 8gb of ram
 http://pastebin.com/PVYwgYcD
[07:02] <TJ-> livingdaylight: definitely use 64-bit then
[07:02] <fishbait> sergiu: its a troll question i'm trying to get a small bit of vengence for them being so useless when i'm asking about rsnapshot
[07:02] <hwkiller-netbook> If you have more than 4gb of ram, you need to use 64bit.
[07:02] <sergiu> oh then it's good) Can' belive wine can run big games like wow without using microsoft library
[07:03] <gnomefreak> i have 6gb ram andim running 32bit fine
[07:03] <sergiu> fishbait> what yout q with rsnapshit
[07:03] <sergiu> rsnapshot*
[07:03] <hwkiller-netbook> Well, they wrote their own ms library. They just tried to write a library that implements the same API as windows itself. Reverse engineering, in some sense
[07:03] <livingdaylight> TJ-, definitely? because, I've heard that ubuntu recommends 32-bit and also that although 64 adds speed in some ways it is also slower than 32 in others - don't ask me how, I'm not technical, but apparently in a lot of cases it makes no difference.
[07:03] <fishbait> how do i tell rsnapshot to snapshot sda and sbd then save to sdc?
[07:04] <TJ-> alexey_knyshev: looking now... give me a minute
[07:04] <hwkiller-netbook> livingdaylight: no, 8gb of ram = use 64bit, period.
[07:04] <livingdaylight> hwkiller-netbook, ok, that's an authoritative and affimative confirmation :)
[07:04] <TJ-> livingdaylight: no, we recommend 64 bit and it will usually be faster since the 64-bit CPUs have lots more bigger registers than 32-bit so can handle many more calculations without having to access (slow) RAM
[07:04] <drinxtir> 32bit is more stable
[07:05] <TJ-> drinxtir: Not at all, there is no difference!
[07:05] <hwkiller-netbook> There really is no difference nowadays
[07:05] <sergiu> hwkiller-netbook> oh ye, this is so easy, how i could not understand that early
[07:05] <hwkiller-netbook> once upon a time, maybe
[07:05] <drinxtir> I guess its been a while since I've checked on it
[07:05] <fishbait> 32 on 64bit hardware is slower b/c there is a layer of virtualization but 64 on 64 is faster than 32 on 32 abd 64 on 32 is impossible
[07:06] <gnomefreak> lst i heard there were a few apps that wre having issues ono 64bit however i dont recall th apps
[07:06] <TJ-> 64-bit problems were caused by inexperienced programmers mostly, who didn't understand on-the-wire data structures might get zapped when laid out in memory
[07:06] <hwkiller-netbook> It's not really an issue on linux. Why? Because if you need it to be 64 bit, you just use a 64bit compiler.
[07:06] <hwkiller-netbook> the source code is there for the compilation
[07:06] <TJ-> hwkiller-netbook: precisely!
[07:06] <hwkiller-netbook> It's the same code
[07:07] <hwkiller-netbook> If someone is writing code that is specific to 32bit, then they are doing it wrong.
[07:07] <fishbait> mmm apps that need hardwaRE access could be troublesome
[07:07] <hwkiller-netbook> not really
[07:07] <hwkiller-netbook> the kernel is 64bit.
[07:08] <hwkiller-netbook> they just need to interface w/ kernel.
[07:08] <hwkiller-netbook> Again, if an app is trying to access hardware directly, then they are doing it wrong. That's what kernel interfaces are for.
[07:08] <fishbait> well i'm talkin bout specific hardwAre access like anti virus apps and diagnostic ones
[07:08] <drinxtir> I retract my previous statement.
[07:08] <TJ-> alexey_knyshev: log4qt isn't in the Ubuntu archives. Are you building this yourself? I suspect there's an issue with the build configuration
[07:08] <livingdaylight> hwkiller-netbook | TJ- i was initially asking for my pc because its got 8gb of ram, but your strong support for 64, makes me wonder whether I need to switch my laptop to x64-bit also. What is the minimum amount of ram that would have you say - yes- definitely 64 or nah... better 32-bit?
[07:09] <hwkiller-netbook> 4gb
[07:09] <hwkiller-netbook> if you have >=4gb, then use 64bit
[07:09] <livingdaylight> hwkiller-netbook, thank you
[07:09] <TJ-> livingdaylight: Well, I run it with 2GB or more and it feels better ... been using 64bit for several years now
[07:09] <hwkiller-netbook> Honestly, if you have >=3gb, go ahead and use 64bit
[07:09] <alexey_knyshev> TJ: yes, myself, could your help me with it?)
[07:10] <llutz_> if you have a 64bit capable cpu, there is no reason to use 32bit OS. whatever your RAM-size is
[07:10] <TJ-> alexey_knyshev: Do you have a git repository I can clone from?
[07:10] <livingdaylight> TJ-, i recall there used to be issues with getting flash? and stuff set up on 64-bit, but maybe we're beyond that now
[07:10] <fishbait> 4gb or less 32 4GB or more 64 thats the basic understanding of course this presumes a 64bit cpu
[07:10] <TJ-> livingdaylight: now Debian and Ubuntu have adopted multi-lib we can install the 32-bit libraries to support 32-bit applications on 64-bit without any silly kludges we had before
[07:11] <fishbait> yeah i have flash running on 64 bit
[07:11] <hwkiller-netbook> 32bit means it can address 2^32 in memory. That ends at 4gb, so any other ram is wasted (the cpu can't address it). Realistically, onboard gpu, bios, and kernel also use memory, so you wind up having access to even less than 4gb.
[07:11] <livingdaylight> TJ-, excellent. That's good to know - reassuring. Thank you. :)
[07:11] <llutz_> hwkiller-netbook: with PAE you can address more than 4GB (still in 4GB chunks). But PAE is ugly
[07:11] <hwkiller-netbook> and slo
[07:11] <hwkiller-netbook> slow*
[07:11] <TJ-> For a 32-bit system you can only address 2.5-3GB of RAM since the other 1GB+ is required by the pci-iomem memory-mapped devices
[07:12] <hwkiller-netbook> Right
[07:12] <alexey_knyshev> TJ: I can give u upstream url and our rmp "succesfull  build" fork
[07:12] <histo> livingdaylight: 64bit is really polished now not a lot of issues like before
[07:12] <livingdaylight> btw, how do we determine if our CPU supports 64-bit?
[07:12] <alexey_knyshev> TJ: rpm*
[07:12] <hwkiller-netbook> if your system has 8gb of ram, I'm betting it's 64bit :p
[07:12] <llutz_> livingdaylight: grep " lm " /proc/cpuinfo
[07:12] <TJ-> If the system has a video card with a large memory space that has to be mapped below the 4GB line, then Linux has problems if you have more than 2GB RAM installed
[07:13] <llutz_> moin
[07:13] <TJ-> livingdaylight: check the specifications of the manufacturer
[07:13] <llutz_> oops, sry
[07:13] <hwkiller-netbook> If it's core2duo or up, it's 64bit.
[07:13] <fishbait> how do i tell rsnapshot to snapshot sda and sbd then save the snapshots to sdc1 a.. /dev of course :)
[07:13] <hwkiller-netbook> If you have amd, chances are it's 64bit, tbh, they've had that for a while
[07:14] <livingdaylight> TJ-, I believe my laptop is 64bit, but the Desktop I assembled with parts myself
[07:14] <hwkiller-netbook> what cpu is it, livingdaylight
[07:14] <hwkiller-netbook> If it's from the past 5 years, it's 64bit
[07:14] <hwkiller-netbook> most likely
[07:15] <chris|> fishbait, you don't, rsnapshot does not operate on block devices
[07:15] <livingdaylight> hwkiller-netbook, lspci output: 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller (rev 09)
[07:15] <llutz_> livingdaylight: grep " lm " /proc/cpuinfo
[07:15] <TJ-> livingdaylight: check /proc/cpuinfo  "grep flags /proc/cpuinfo | grep fm"
[07:15] <alexey_knyshev> TJ: http://gitorious.org/log4qt - upstream
[07:15] <gnomefreak> IIRC ALL AMD procs are 64bit. AMD hasnt made a 32 bit
[07:15] <TJ-> livingdaylight: check /proc/cpuinfo  "grep flags /proc/cpuinfo | grep lm"
[07:16] <llutz_> gnomefreak: wrong
[07:16] <alexey_knyshev> http://git.altlinux.org/people/alexeyknyshev/packages/?p=log4qt.git;a=summary - our distro git
[07:16] <alexey_knyshev> TJ: http://git.altlinux.org/people/alexeyknyshev/packages/?p=log4qt.git;a=summary - our distro git
[07:16] <livingdaylight> TJ-, sudo: /proc/cpuinfo: command not found - I'm on a live cd here
[07:17] <TJ-> alexey_knyshev: thanks. but where's your debian/ directory ... OK .... I'll pull from yours
[07:17] <hwkiller-netbook> Amd has had 64bit since amd64
[07:17] <llutz_> livingdaylight: grep " lm " /proc/cpuinfo            no sudo
[07:17] <TJ-> livingdaylight: just do "cat /proc/cpuinfo"
[07:17] <hwkiller-netbook> those cpus rocked back then too..
[07:17] <gnomefreak> llutz_: i have never seens an AADM bing 32 bit
[07:17] <TJ-> livingdaylight: "lm" is one of the flags
[07:17] <TJ-> livingdaylight: lm == long mode
[07:17] <gnomefreak> damn my typing sucks
[07:17] <llutz_> gnomefreak: all athlon/duron were (not athlon64)
[07:17] <hwkiller-netbook> llutz_: because it was a very long time ago, lol. amd has had 64bit for a long while.
[07:18] <fishbait> chris|: what should i use to backup sda and sdb to sdc1 then?
[07:18] <llutz_> hwkiller-netbook: tell it gnomefreak ;)
[07:18] <TJ-> gnomefreak: Athlon K7s
[07:18] <hwkiller-netbook> err... woops
[07:18] <TJ-> I was selling systems with Athlon's in back then; they beat the socks off Intel Pentiums
[07:19] <alexey_knyshev> TJ: I made I first time, and because of our distro is rpm based I couldn't push debian specific changes to it
[07:19] <llutz_> in those days .... could we come back to the topic now, please
[07:19] <alexey_knyshev> TJ: But I can send u my local changes, if it can help u
[07:19] <folmer> yup, athlons were the shizzle back then
[07:19] <livingdaylight> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/58U6tyXx
[07:19] <fishbait> what should i use to backup sda and sdb to sdc1?
[07:20] <gnomefreak> windows finally added 64 bit systems
[07:20] <hwkiller-netbook> fishbait: perhaps dd? rsync?
[07:20] <hwkiller-netbook> rsync would be safer
[07:20] <drinxtir> Rsync
[07:20] <TJ-> alexey_knyshev: cloned your repo... yes I need your local changes... can you push an experimental branch to your git daemon?
[07:21] <gnomefreak> +1 rsync
[07:21] <TJ-> livingdaylight: yes, that's got "lm" mode
[07:21] <livingdaylight> TJ-, long mode is good news then
[07:21] <alexey_knyshev> TJ: I'm going to try... May be we can make private conversation for best results?
[07:22] <TJ-> alexey_knyshev: of course
[07:22] <livingdaylight> TJ-, ok, time to log off and get 64 bit then - been doing it all wrong, lol
[07:22] <alexey_knyshev> Tj: thanks in advance
[07:22] <fishbait> my /dev/sdb is my /home in /dev/sda will rsync work for this?
[07:22] <TJ-> livingdaylight: good luck with that! make sure you're not relying on anything that is 32-bit only such as proprietary apps or games
[07:23] <livingdaylight> TJ-, thank you
[07:23] <hwkiller-netbook> fishbait: rsync does everything very well
[07:23] <hwkiller-netbook> so probably, yes
[07:25] <fishbait> ok ty now am i right that the command that will accomplish my goal is sudo rsync /dev/sda /dev/sdc1 ?
[07:26] <llutz_> fishbait: sudo rsync -aux / /mnt/sdc1                rsync doesn't work on block-devices
[07:26] <fishbait> ooh ty soo much'
[07:28] <ubuntu-guest1222> hello folks
[07:29] <fishbait> i finally have a backup soloution
[07:29] <ubuntu-guest1222> coming with a quick question: are there any older daily builds for Firefox versions that come installed with ubuntu (e.g. Firefox 15)
[07:31] <TJ-> older daily builds? I don't quite understand what you're asking?
[07:32] <TJ-> We have a PPA for daily builds of several Mozilla projects: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa
[07:32] <ubuntu-guest1222> Firefox builds from mozilla follow a train development schedule
[07:33] <ubuntu-guest1222> I can find nightly builds for Firefox on mozilla ftp (builds that are generated daily)
[07:33] <ubuntu-guest1222> I'm interested in finding the corresponding builds which are packed from Ubuntu
[07:33] <TJ-> See my previous comment about the Mozilla daily PPA
[07:36] <ubuntu-guest1222> TJ: downloading the archive now, but I presume this is the latest one
[07:36] <ubuntu-guest1222> I would need builds generated for, let's say, a month ago for a given version
[07:36] <TJ-> If you add the PPA and use apt-get install / apt-get install upgrade, you'll get the latest build available
[07:37] <TJ-> You can select a specific build using pinnning - that is, forcing apt-get to get a specific version by doing something like apt-get install <package>=<version>
[07:38] <ubuntu-guest1222> does version cover all builds for a given version?
[07:38] <ubuntu-guest1222> e.g: all bulds for F15
[07:38] <TJ-> You can browse the archive for the versions you want at the PPAs HTTP server directory: http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox-trunk/
[07:39] <Gyro54> Where can I find instructions for 12.04 OEM install
[07:40] <ubuntu-guest1222> TJ: I think the last link will be most helpful for what I need
[07:40] <ubuntu-guest1222> thanks a lot
[07:40] <TJ-> You can find the older version in the main archive: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/f/firefox/
[07:43] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[07:44] <histo> !install | Gyro54
[07:46] <ImStanding> TJ-  you there still?
[07:48] <ImStanding> TJ
[07:48] <ImStanding> TJ-
[07:49] <ImStanding> Tj-
[07:49] <ImStanding> TJ-
[07:49] <ImStanding> TJ-
[07:49] <histo> ImStanding: stop
[07:49] <llutz_> ImStanding: stop
[07:49] <DJones> ImStanding: No need for that
[07:49] <ImStanding> gosh...
[07:49] <ImStanding> he won't answer
[07:49] <histo> ImStanding: probably afk
[07:49] <histo> !ask | ImStanding
[07:49] <ImStanding> I know, I was hoping the beeping would notify him
[07:50] <histo> ImStanding: Do you ahve a questions?
[07:50] <histo> wow stupid keyboard
[07:50] <ImStanding> !patience | histo
[07:50] <fishbait> !netsplit | ImStanding
[07:50] <ImStanding> haha
[07:50] <histo> ImStanding: You're not that funny
[07:50] <ImStanding> :P
[07:51] <ImStanding> me/
[07:51]  * ImStanding is mad
[07:51] <bkerensa> !ot | ImStanding
[07:51] <bkerensa> Lets bring it back on-topic
[07:51] <fishbait> !ot | histo
[07:51]  * ImStanding is having ubuntu problems
[07:51] <fishbait> * twitches
[07:52] <histo> fishbait: I'm on topic and have been here longer than most of you.
[07:53] <fishbait> fair split between both involved parties when off topic
[07:53] <bkerensa> histo: Last warning please bring it on-topic
[07:54] <histo> bkerensa: I'm not off topic I asked if he had a question? and told him to stop spamming TJ-'s nick in the channel. Leave it
[07:55] <TJ-> Howabout helping ImStanding whilst I'm busy instead of arguing over petty issues!?
[07:55]  * ImStanding needs the alternative download links
[07:55] <histo> ImStanding: cdimages.ubuntu.com
[07:55] <ImStanding> TJ- thank you!  GOSH..  and TJ- I think I may have fixed my problem.
[07:55] <fishbait> * mutes himself *
[07:57] <TJ-> ImStanding: What was the problem do you think?
[07:57] <zetheroo> anyone know of a fix for this very annoying desktop wallpapers issue in 12.04? ... when trying to add custom wallpapers to the "Wallpapers" section they do not appear there ...
[07:58] <histo> zetheroo: I'm not having that issue exactly how are you trying to add them?
[07:59] <imstanding_> TJ-
[08:00] <histo> zetheroo: I just tried it it jumped to the Pictures folder menu selection although the image that I chose was there and I was able to change the background
[08:01] <TJ-> ImStanding: What was the problem do you think?
[08:01] <DJones> TJ-: They've timed out of the channel
[08:01] <TJ-> DJones: but he's back as imstanding_  ... I just recalled my history
[08:01] <imstanding_> I believe that the laptop couldn't process the GUIs.  The alternative link that I was provided is working RIGHT NOW and actually installing it.  I believe it will be done in about 3 minutes
[08:02] <TJ-> imstanding_: Did you test the alternate CD for an md5sum ?
[08:02] <imstanding_> Yes
[08:02] <imstanding_> and it failed
[08:02] <imstanding_> LOL
[08:02] <TJ-> imstanding_: Your previous test of the liveCD proved that disk was faulty, so that would explain why the GUI failed... corrupted files.
[08:03] <imstanding_> but the alternative ISO failed to but is working wonders.
[08:03] <imstanding_> too*
[08:03] <TJ-> imstanding_: Did you compare the alternate image against the *correct* md5sum for the alternate iso? you may have compared against the same MD5 sum as the liveCD
[08:03] <imstanding_> I don't know lol
[08:03] <TJ-> imstanding_: I'm betting you did :p
[08:04] <imstanding_> haha... probs
[08:04] <zetheroo>  histo: right-click on desktop > select "change desktop background" > under "Look" tab and "Wallpapers" from the drop-down menu I click on the "+" button to add new wallpapers to the selection ... I browse to the wallpaper and click "open" ... what happens then is that the "Wallpapers" section changes to the "Pictures Folder" section and the wallpaper changes .... however when I close the Appearance dialog and reopen it and go again to "Pict
[08:04] <imstanding_> So... ubuntu vs windows vs mac....  (lol)
[08:04] <zetheroo>  histo: I cannot believe this is broken ... gadz
[08:04] <imstanding_> TD- I have a question
[08:05] <TJ-> imstanding_: as long as you're getting on ok now that's all that matters... the thing with these issues is you have to learn to be methodical and don't try to take shortcuts... always look for absolute confirmation of the cause of an issue, don't try assuming or guessing... it eventually leads to tragedy, like lost data
[08:05] <imstanding_> I don't care about this laptop's data... LOL
[08:05] <imstanding_> It hasn't been used in ages
[08:05] <imstanding_> TD-  so the ISO named:  ubuntu-12.04-alternate-i386   is that 32 or 64?  or both
[08:05] <TJ-> imstanding_: In the *future* you might though. I'm trying to make sure you adopt good practices now before you cause yourself grief
[08:06] <Myrtti> imstanding_: 32
[08:06] <zetheroo>  histo: and yes, this is a clean install not and upgrade ... and yes it's occurring on other Ubuntu 12.04 machines as well - all of the 3 I have here
[08:06] <Calinou> i386 = 32 bit, amd64 = 64 bit
[08:06] <TJ-> imstanding_: the "i386" indicates 32-bit "amd64" is 64-bit
[08:06] <imstanding_> thanks!
[08:06] <Calinou> amd64 can be used on intel CPUs too!
[08:06] <imstanding_> what is the link to the 63 bit one?
[08:06] <imstanding_> 64
[08:07] <TJ-> imstanding_: They're all together listed on the same page on the cdimages.ubuntu.com web-site
[08:07] <TJ-> imstanding_: slow DOWN and *read* those web pages we send you to... carefully!
[08:07] <imstanding_> hmmmmm
[08:08] <TJ-> imstanding_: bigger isn't always better... don't want 64-bit system unless the system has 3GB or RAM or more
[08:08] <zetheroo>  histo: did I loose you? ;)
[08:08] <Grammasta> hi, can I get some support for ubuntu server here as well ?
[08:09] <TJ-> Grammasta: yes
[08:10] <Grammasta> I've got a NAS box running...a HP Proliant...been running freenas 0.72 and just switched to nas4free...but so many issues installing sabnzbd,sickbeard and so on...so thinking about ubuntu server instead. How is it to run of a usb stick, is that possible ?
[08:11] <mjarf> what's the best way to make programs fullscreen in ubuntu 12.04? alt-enter doesn't seem to work for dosbox at least
[08:13] <iceroot> Grammasta: i am running ubuntu 11.10 from usb stick using sabnzbplusd
[08:13] <iceroot> Grammasta: running fine
[08:13] <luftikuss> I forgot what the file permission digit "1" stands for in »root:root   1777« ? See http://cosmos.ucc.ie/cs1064/jabowen/IPSC/pictures/1.txt/etc/permissions.easy
[08:14] <iceroot> mjarf: try f11
[08:14] <mjarf> iceroot: will do
[08:14] <jey> hey guys, how can I add an extra xsession to ubuntu 10.04?
[08:14] <TJ-> Grammasta: There isn't a liveCD of server that i know of; but you can run the liveCD and then install server packages to test them in the tmpfs in RAM of course
[08:14] <jey> that is, I dont want GNOME
[08:14] <llutz_> luftikuss: sticky bit set
[08:15] <luftikuss> llutz, Thank you for your help.
[08:15] <invader_> ALAS
[08:15] <TJ-> jey: try this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession
[08:15] <zetheroo> so here is my problem ... anyone else experiencing the same? http://askubuntu.com/questions/172909/adding-custom-wallpapers-to-wallpaper-section-ubuntu-12-04
[08:16] <Grammasta> ok, so I might as well run the latest ubuntu version, not server ?
[08:16] <jey> TJ-: ill take a look, thanks
[08:16] <Gyro54> My display has suddenly opened thinking its a laptop. I cant seem to be able to change the settings?
[08:16] <orf> Hello guys
[08:17] <jalexandru> hi, I'm having troubles installing ubuntu 12.04 64 on an asus laptop from an usb stick it gives me the option to "install ubuntu" and "try ubuntu without installing" but it freezes after any option. My question is, if I use the windows installer will affect anything? will I be able after that to change the boot order(maybe using hbcd...) to have ubuntu boot first?
[08:17] <TJ-> Grammasta: if you don't mind all the desktop cruft... but you can *install* from the server ISO directly. I thought you wanted to test the server from a liveCD image so as not to touch the system disks
[08:17] <luftikuss> Gyro54, What do you mean by "thinking"?
[08:18] <Grammasta> TJ-: I don't really have a system disk now, just 5 media hdds...and been running freenas off of the usb stick
[08:18] <orf> I am using ubuntu's default backup program to back up my home directory and its taking a long long time. My home directory is only ~30gb and its going over a local network to a windows share, but its uploading very very slow
[08:18] <Grammasta> but I'd like to be running sabnzbd, sickbeard and also plex media server
[08:19] <TJ-> Grammasta: Ahh I see what you mean. You could install ubuntu server to a USB stick
[08:19] <TJ-> Grammasta: after all it's just another storage device
[08:19] <Gyro54> luftikuss: It was a clean install working at 1920 as a wide screen display without problems then after a reboot it is running 1280x1040 and says it is a laptop.
[08:20] <Grammasta> TJ-: but would I be better off making a partition of ubuntu on one of my hdds ?
[08:20] <TJ-> Gyro54: Did you install proprietary drivers in the last session before rebooting?
[08:20] <TJ-> Grammasta: probably... but for testing, a USB device would do fine.
[08:20] <Gyro54> TJ- yes Nvidia
[08:20] <Grammasta> I want to set up a webgui to run most things off of too
[08:20] <TJ-> Gyro54: OK ... sounds like you need to run "nvidia x settings" ... type "nvidia" in the dashboard
[08:21] <TJ-> Grammasta: you means a web control panel? I've used webmin/virtualmin/usermin for years with great success.
[08:21] <Grammasta> TJ-: So can I get a installation to a usb stick and make the installer create a partition on one of my hdds without loosing any data that's already on there ?
[08:22] <Grammasta> TJ-: Yeah, been reading about webmin
[08:22] <ThinkT510> !webmin
[08:22] <Grammasta> ubottu: ok, so is there another option ?
[08:22] <ThinkT510> !ebox | Grammasta
[08:23] <lotuspsychje> how can i add a line swcursor true to xorg if xorg file does not exist?
[08:24] <Gyro54> TJ- That allowed me to fix the problem. What would cause that?
[08:24] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: there is no xorg.conf file by default but if you make one it will be obeyed
[08:25] <Grammasta> but I might as well get ubuntu instead of ubuntu server ? what's the easiest to get up and running ? fairly new to linux
[08:25] <Grammasta> oh, and all my hdds are formated in ufs...but that shouldn't be a problem right ?
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: just make a new empty xorg file with 1 line swcursor true?, how come theres not one by default?
[08:26] <TJ-> Grammasta: I'd ignore what ubotto says! I use it extensively and its never conflicted with the Ubuntu package management, it works with it
[08:26] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: you'd need to look at examples to see what it should look like, i doubt the single line would work
[08:27] <TJ-> Gyro54: I think it would be that the driver couldn't determine the optimum mode from what the display told it
[08:27] <djdexter> when i put --password=$somepasswordStartingWithDolar to wget shell accepts as password whitout first character ($) what should i do?
[08:27] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: there isn't a xorg.conf file by default because the display is now dynamically handled
[08:27] <Gyro54> TJ- thanks for your help
[08:28] <TJ-> djdexter: '--password=$somepasswordStartingWithDolar'
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510: dynamic by lightdm?
[08:28] <TJ-> djdexter:  or even --password='$somepasswordStartingWithDolar'
[08:28] <TJ-> djdexter: in other words, surround the password with single quote marks so the shell doesn't interpret the $ symbol as a variable prefix
[08:29] <Gyro54> tj- Saved the configuration but after a reboot it went back to the old setting. It was correct until I logged in.
[08:29] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: starting lightdm starts the X server
[08:30] <ubuntu-guest1221> in what way do Firefox builds from mozilla ftp differ from Firefox Ubuntu builds?
[08:30] <Gyro54> tj- It is a Dell with a strange card maybe it is trouble recognizing it.
[08:30] <ubuntu-guest1221> I can reproduce an issue in 14.0.1 on mozilla's 14.0.1 build which I can't on the same version from Ubuntu
[08:31] <TJ-> ubuntu-guest1221: that suggests that the mozilla bundles system libraries that the ubuntu system provides for its own build
[08:31] <ubuntu-guest1221> I'm trying to get to the root cause of it - it's SVG related
[08:32] <TJ-> Gyro54: That sounds strange since when you 'save' the configuration from nvidia-x-settings, it writes a new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:im just trying to get rid of this corrupt mouse pointer problem
[08:32] <ubuntu-guest1221> I would have guessed this for plugins, but seems strange for svg
[08:33] <ThinkT510> !xorg.conf | lotuspsychje
[08:34] <ThinkT510> !xorgconf | lotuspsychje
[08:36] <TJ-> ubuntu-guest1221: Our firefox package depends on libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0, which depends on librsvg2-2
[08:38] <Charlos> Hi all!
[08:38] <djdexter> thanks
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:tnx for link, so simulating a new xorg file cant do harm to my system because its based on the existing hardware/driver?
[08:39] <Charlos> how to install wine or playonplinux  on ubuntu 10.04 ???
[08:40] <Charlos> how to install wine or playonlinux  on ubuntu 10.04 ???
[08:40] <timfrost> !wine | Charlos
[08:40] <DJones> Charlos: To install wine its sudo apt-get install wine
[08:41] <ThinkT510> lotuspsychje: it'll never do harm, it will either work or not, if it doesn't you can get rid of it
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> ThinkT510:tnx
[08:41] <Charlos> but what key app for wine  ?
[08:42] <W4sp> ThinkT510: Would you consider to suggest to run as root Xorg -configure > ~/xorg.conf.auto, edit as required by lotuspsychje with wcursor/true?
[08:43] <ThinkT510> W4sp: you can suggest it if you like
[08:43] <ThinkT510> W4sp: i haven't needed to configure xorg for years
[08:43] <lotuspsychje> W4sp:for some odd reason many systems i put ubuntu on got this corrupted square mouse pointer at first boot, after a reboot it dissapears
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> something like this: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+question/144040
[08:44] <born__> hi, i am facing problem in writing bash shell script for SCP. echo "p@ssword" | scp -r May-13-21_25_19 gaurav@<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/gaurav/logs/check isnt working for me
[08:44] <kk_> LiuHui
[08:45] <kk_> 中文?
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> !cn | kk_
[08:45] <llutz_> born__: use ssh-keys for that, ssh/scp wont accept passwords from shell
[08:45] <W4sp> lotuspsychje:As ThinkT510 correctly state the xorg.conf is not needed (until it is, of course). I would recommend to make yourself root and run Xorg -configure > /homedir/xorg.conf.auto
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> W4sp:im just reading alot of websites saying that enabling swcursor:true would fix this mouse problem...im not trying to mess with xorg if i dont need
[08:47] <born__> llutz_: can you give me example?
[08:47] <W4sp> lotuspsychje: Once root has done it edit your copy of xorg.conf.auto as desired (wcursor issue) and what else you've got. When you have finished editing it put in ton /etc/X11/ as xorg.conf. Make sure file permission is rw for root and r for group and others.
[08:47] <Xeli> Hello, I'm having a problems with my external monitor on my laptop, after a few minutes the screens starts to 'tear' as if the refresh rate is wrong but this only starts after a while, any idea why or how to fix?
[08:47] <llutz_> born__: read the forums/wiki about using ssh with key-auth
[08:47] <Xeli> worth noting is on some other screens I dont have this problem
[08:47] <born__> llutz_: okay.. thanks :)
[08:48] <cherva> Can someone explain to me ssh tunneling  I have a machine1 with web server on port 80 and a server1 .... I want the machine1 to connect to server1 in such a way that when I open a firefox on the server and type <IP_ADDRESS>:1234 to go over the ssh tunel to machine1:80
[08:49] <Benkinooby> hi, my system time is off my 40 minutes, i have ntpd running. can some1 help me?
[08:49] <W4sp> lotuspsychje: The reason for my suggestion is that Xorg runs configuration settings during runtime and automatically, As you are not satisfied with this you need to averride the settings manually with your wcursre requirements. Auto-generating xorg.conf will not address your issue as it is the same as the autogenerated settings.
[08:50] <llutz_> cherva: ssh -L 1234:machine1:80 user@machine1
[08:51] <cherva> llutz, I have to type this on server1 yes ? I
[08:51] <llutz_> cherva: yes
[08:51] <lotuspsychje> W4sp: im not sure im gonna mess with xorg yet, im more interested in understanding why ubuntu boots this cursor problem once a day..
[08:51] <W4sp> lotuspsychje: Further, if you have not done soe make yourself familiar with methods to boot into CLI mode.
[08:52] <cherva> llutz, I need such a thing that have to be typed on machine1 because machine1 will be behind routers and other stuff and server1 is on a real static ip .....
[08:52] <W4sp> lotuspsychje: Sure, it is your decision as you are the root admin.
[08:52] <cherva> llutz, to make machine1 connect to server1 :)
[08:52] <llutz_> cherva: read about reverse-tunnelng (ssh -R)
[08:52] <cherva> llutz, ok 10x
[08:52] <W4sp> ThinkT510: Thanks a lot.
[08:53] <CellTech> How come when I visit the software center to install lmms. it installs wine instead?
[08:54] <Benkinooby> hi, my system time is off my 40 minutes, i have ntpd running. can some1 help me?
[08:54] <jpds> Benkinooby: sudo service ntp stop; sudo ntpdate 0.uk.pool.ntp.org; sudo service ntp start
[08:55] <cherva> llutz, done thx a lot man :)
[08:55] <Benkinooby> jpds, thank you
[08:56] <llutz_> cherva: yw
[08:56] <Benkinooby> jpds, do i have to do this more often in future?
[08:56] <jpds> Benkinooby: No, check /var/log/syslog to see what your clock is not syncng.
[08:57] <DJones> CellTech: I don't know why, but wine is shown as a dependency for the lmms package
[08:58] <CellTech> Weird..
[08:59] <TJ-> DJones: really? I just did apt-cache depends lmms and apt-cache rdepends wine on 12.04 and don't get any hits
[08:59] <DJones> TJ-: I'm just looking at http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/lmms
[09:00] <llutz_> TJ apt-cache depends lmms|grep wine -> " Depends: wine1.4-i386"
[09:00] <llutz_> 12.04 here
[09:00] <Paolas> i try sudo apt-get -update after
[09:00] <Paolas> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[09:00] <Paolas> how to make   ?
[09:00] <TJ-> DJones: weird!
[09:00] <DJones> TJ-: It shows wine1.4-i386 as the 2nd to last dependancy
[09:00] <jpds> !dpkglock | Paolas
[09:01] <Paolas> but what yes or no  that  ?
[09:02] <TJ-> DJones: CellTech I'm pulling the source in
[09:02] <Paolas> Kill process 2056 ? (y/N)
[09:02] <Paolas> ?
[09:02] <Costeelation> someone can give me a feed reader?
[09:02] <Costeelation> no liferea... dont work with my ubuntu :(
[09:02] <DJones> TJ-: I'll be interested to understand why when once you've had a look
[09:03] <llutz_> CellTech: lmms supports VST-plugins, which need wine
[09:03] <Paolas> Kill process 2056 ? (y/N)     y or N that ????
[09:03] <CellTech> Another question. I have audacious. Why does it skip?
[09:03] <TJ-> DJones: CellTech llutz OK ... that dependency is for 32-bit systems only... I'm using 64-bit
[09:03] <Wicla> Hello.. Are it possible to disable GPG checking for ONE specific repository?
[09:04] <Benkinooby> jpds, syslogs last line is "frequency initialized -21.433 PPM from /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift" is that normal?
[09:04] <llutz_> TJ-: there is no wine-amd64 (afaik), lmms still will depend on wine due to the VST-support
[09:05] <TJ-> llutz_: wine1.4-i386 [i386]
[09:05] <llutz_> multiarch, yes TJ-
[09:05] <TJ-> llutz: yes, but no dependency in amd64 package
[09:05] <TJ->   * debian/control:
[09:05] <TJ->     - Build with wine1.4-dev (LP: #925127)
[09:05] <TJ->     - Remove manual wine dependency, obtain it via dh_shlibdeps
[09:05] <TJ->     - Remove wine and gcc-multilib build dependencies on amd64
[09:05] <TJ->       (package does not build with 64-bit only wine)
[09:05] <FloodBot1> TJ-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:06] <TJ-> oops, too many lines! thought I'd concatenated
[09:06] <llutz_> TJ-: ah ok
[09:06] <CellTech> fixed it. thank you :D
[09:06] <Paolas> i have wine but need to install new in playonlinux  ???
[09:06] <TJ-> There's always an explanation if you look far enough... trouble is, it's often damned well hidden!
[09:07] <Paolas> how to make install PlayOnLinux   ?????
[09:07] <Paolas> !playonlinux
[09:08] <Paolas> ???
[09:08] <timfrost> Benkinooby: that message is OK. It is telling you that it has loaded  drift frequency data from the file /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift
[09:08] <Paolas> hey Im forghet... Panels no have icon for network , how to make add   ???????
[09:09] <bazhang> !enter | Paolas
[09:09] <Paolas> ?
[09:09] <Paolas> hey Im forghet... Panels no have icon for network , how to make add   ?
[09:09] <Benkinooby> timfrost, i think that that file may be corrupted... i had big trouble the last two weeks, because my system time always shifted off - with and without ntp
[09:10] <bazhang> Paolas, stop using the enter key so much. keep it on ONE line
[09:10] <Paolas> ok
[09:10] <Benkinooby> timfrost, would a purge and reinstall fo ntp be a safe solution?
[09:10] <Benkinooby> timfrost, in case the time shifts off again
[09:11] <TJ-> Benkinooby: check /var/log/kern.log for any indication of the kernel causing the time drift... or if the PC is turned off alot, it could be down to a failing battery for the RTC
[09:12] <Paolas> in software center have sun java 6.0 plugin but no have install  how to make   ?
[09:12] <bazhang> !java | Paolas
[09:13] <timfrost> Benkinooby: ntp re-install won't fix things.  If your computer is always on (or is on more than it is off), you  need NTP server installed to keep time synced to a reliable time source.  This is because of drift, and the fact that ntpdate only changes the clock on boot
[09:13] <Wicla> Hello.. Are it possible to disable GPG checking for a specific APT repository?
[09:13] <Benkinooby> TJ-, so far, my hwclock whas the only reliable clock on my system... a laptop, with a weak accu
[09:13] <TJ-> Benkinooby: that's a pain :(
[09:13] <bazhang> Wicla, why would you ever need to do that
[09:14] <Benkinooby> TJ, timfrost jpds thank you for your advice
[09:15] <Wicla> bazhang: it's for a custom repository in enterprise environment. But that's unimportant isn't it. Was that a statement that it's not possible?
[09:15] <bazhang> Wicla, 3rd party repo? PPA? what is it
[09:16] <Wicla> a local custom repository. Not a PPA
[09:16] <TJ-> Wicla: you can do it for all as you probably know (sudo apt-get --allow-unauthenticated upgrade) but I don't know about a per-repo option
[09:18] <BullShark`> How can i prevent an application from resetting the windows title in screen. i have screen -t zsh 1 /bin/zsh in my .screenrc. it gets set to zsh, but then reset to myhostname:~:zsh after zsh executes, same with other commands
[09:19] <TJ-> Wicla: you could sign your local repo. see for example: http://blog.mycrot.ch/2011/04/26/creating-your-own-signed-apt-repository-and-debian-packages/
[09:19] <Wicla> TJ-: ok. The setup required would need to have it configured in a configuration file however since Puppet is being used. Would prefer not to change the Puppet uses to install packages (apt-get -q -y -o Dpkg::Options::=--force-confold install <package>"
[09:20] <Wicla> TJ-: true. So far we've managed to avoid signing it for other distributions for simplicity. But maybe we'll need to rethink our current setup and use GPG signing
[09:20] <Paolas> how to install exe for yahoo messenger.exe   ?
[09:22] <BullShark`> How can i prevent an application from resetting the windows title in screen? I have screen -t bash 1 /bin/bash in my .screenrc. it gets set to bash, but then reset to myhostname:~:bash after bash executes, same with other commands
[09:22] <MonkeyDust> Paolas  empathy handles yahoo messenger
[09:24] <rvgate>  /j #pac
[09:24] <CFUDev> Hello
[09:24] <rvgate> oops
[09:24] <cfhowlett> CFUDev: greetings
[09:24] <CFUDev> New on Ubuntu and I have some issue :(
[09:24] <dylan> can anyone help me with java install and set-up please?
[09:25] <CFUDev> I have a PC with wireless NIC
[09:25] <cfhowlett> CFUDev: ok and
[09:25] <CFUDev> my pc worked well until the last two days ...
[09:25] <biobeo> is there anyone for help ?
[09:25] <biobeo> I am having problem while installing Ubuntu 12.4 on my desktop (Intel 865 P4 1GB DDR1 RAM)
[09:25] <jalexandru> CFUdev: and?
[09:26] <biobeo> I am having problem while installing Ubuntu 12.4 on my desktop (Intel 865 P4 1GB DDR1 RAM)\
[09:26] <Paolas> but i need on webcam for yahoo messenger
[09:26] <CFUDev> but the last two days, it seems like the network stop for a while and then start again
[09:26] <CFUDev> I cannot find out what is the reason
[09:26] <cfhowlett> biobeo: what kind of trouble; details
[09:26] <biobeo> posted here
[09:26] <biobeo> http://askubuntu.com/questions/172922/ubuntu-12-4-is-not-running-installation-on-intel-865-pentium-4
[09:26] <CFUDev> When I open my both browsers (Firefox / Chrome) the pages are doing endless loading or are loaded too slow
[09:27] <Paolas> biobeo try download  ubunru  12.04.4 LTS Lucid Linx is good work for me
[09:27] <CFUDev> and the update manager is downloading all of the packages
[09:27] <cfhowlett> biobeo: ok, basics.  did you checksum to ensure you got a good download?
[09:27] <mady1978> ciao
[09:27] <mady1978> !list
[09:27] <CFUDev> but for some packages it seem that getting too slow regardless the file size
[09:27] <Paolas> I have on webcam but how to install for yahoo messenger on webcam   ????
[09:28] <Phoenix87> hallo
[09:28] <biobeo> I am having the booable CD from the store..
[09:28] <CFUDev> Is there any idea on how to solve that issue ?
[09:28] <Phoenix87> could I use some help with this question http://askubuntu.com/questions/172601/cant-upgrade-from-11-10-to-12-04 ? thank you
[09:28] <CFUDev> You can find that same issue here : http://askubuntu.com/questions/172923/endless-network-loading
[09:28] <biobeo> ppls help
[09:28] <cfhowlett> biobeo: not sure what that means...you bought an ubuntu cdrom?
[09:28] <CFUDev> This is mine too
[09:29] <biobeo> I got the Ubuntu 12.4 Bootable CD from a Store...
[09:29] <biobeo> theres nothing error in the CD as I guess..
[09:29] <cfhowlett> biobeo: hmm.  ok.
[09:29] <Paolas> I have on webcam but how to install for yahoo messenger on webcam   ?
[09:29] <timfrost> BullShark`: You will need to configure your terminal emulator to ignore all requests to change the title bar.  That depends on which terminal emulator you use. Gnome terminal has a global per-profile setting to control this, under 'Profile->Title and Command'.  Other terminal emulators may have equivalent options, but you need to set the option that applies to your terminal emulator (and cope with the fact that in most cases it is 'a
[09:30] <CFUDev> Any help please with that ? : http://askubuntu.com/questions/172923/endless-network-loading
[09:30] <MonsterWizard> if I uninstall unity will it ruin my system in anyway
[09:30] <biobeo> please any one help URGENT... http://askubuntu.com/questions/172922/ubuntu-12-4-is-not-running-installation-on-intel-865-pentium-4
[09:30] <cfhowlett> biobeo: i see that your installation hangs once you select 3rd party software/mp3 codecs.  Suggest you DON'T install those until after you get the basic system up and running.  Quite easy to add them post installation
[09:30] <BullShark`> timfrost -> not the title bar, the windows names in screen. i like to keep them short so they don't expand greater than the width of my terminal
[09:31] <quick-> MonsterWizard:  it depends upon your system config
[09:31] <MonsterWizard> I haven't changed anything
[09:31] <MonsterWizard> it's a fresh install
[09:31] <quick-> MonsterWizard:  forthe mostof the latest systemsit willnot
[09:32] <MonsterWizard> right I'll uninstall it then
[09:32] <biobeo> yeah.. also tried that.... but the same thing is happening... is Ubuntu 12.4 is Compitable with my Config ???? @cfhowlett
[09:32] <Paolas> How to install on webcam   ???
[09:32] <Paolas> how to driver on webcam   ?
[09:32] <supasnashbuhl> hi! Maybe someone has had the same problem with shotwell. I noticed that shotwell has created several events with the same name (date).. Is there some kind of batch operation to combine all events with the same name?
[09:33] <regMe> help
[09:33] <cfhowlett> biobeo: pretty sure you should be able to run it, but here's are the alternate methods ... download the ubuntu alternate .iso (text based) installer OR try a different distro; xubuntu or lubuntu for older, low spec machines
[09:33] <Phoenix87> is it safe to change any occurrence of oneiric with precise in sources.list in order to force a distribution upgrade?
[09:34] <MonsterWizard> is the answer to this question the safest way to uninstall unity? http://askubuntu.com/questions/6302/how-can-you-remove-unity
[09:34] <_skpl> the safest way to remove unity is to install another desktop environment
[09:34] <MonsterWizard> yep I already habe gnome
[09:34] <_skpl> den use gnome.
[09:34] <biobeo> but why the problem is running I mean what should be the cause..??
[09:34] <MonsterWizard> that command won't do anything crazy will it?
[09:35] <Paolas> how to driver on webcam   ?   what do you say  ? Im waiting   ???
[09:35] <MonsterWizard> yeah but I hate unity so badly I want it off the system
[09:35] <susundberg> !gnome-shell
[09:36] <regMe> quit
[09:36] <quick-> quit
[09:36] <cfhowlett> biobeo: as it's 3rd party only, I'd suspect that those repos are not available or that you actually have a bad cdrom.
[09:36] <susundberg> MonsterWizard: !notunity
[09:36] <susundberg> mhh, i cannot use this bot
[09:36] <susundberg> !notunity
[09:37] <biobeo> but theres no error showing up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:37] <TJ-> BullShark`: "man screen" and read the "TITLES (naming windows)" section carefully. It includes some great examples of dynamic window titles
[09:38] <cfhowlett> biobeo: understood...one reason I suggested you download, check and create your own boot media is so that you KNOW that much is good
[09:38] <MonsterWizard> I just updated from 10:04
[09:38] <MonsterWizard> wheres the symtaptic package manger?
[09:38] <MonsterWizard> kept
[09:38] <KatsumeBlisk> MonsterWizard: It doesn't exist by default anymore. You have to install it yourself iirc.
[09:38] <MonsterWizard> :/
[09:38] <KatsumeBlisk> It should still be in the repos.
[09:39] <TJ-> MonsterWizard: There's the Software Centre now, it's taken over
[09:39] <KatsumeBlisk> MonsterWizard: It was replaced by Software Center by default.
[09:39] <KatsumeBlisk> MonsterWizard: What TJ- said.
[09:39] <biobeo> hmmm... but My desktop is not in the situation to download something.. cause my old OS is corrupt now...
[09:39] <eli_> hello, how can i copy a file from a remote host
[09:40] <TJ-> eli_: If you have SSH access you can use scp or sftp
[09:40] <cfhowlett> biobeo: .torrents
[09:40] <MonsterWizard> So can ubuntu do anythig other linux distros can?
[09:40] <eli_> TJ-: scp don't work for me he don't found the host
[09:40] <Paolas> how to driver on webcam   ?   what do you say  ? Im waiting   ???
[09:40] <KatsumeBlisk> MonsterWizard: Yeah. It's really just up to preference in terms of distro choice.
[09:40] <eli_> TJ-: can i use pastebin or some thing like that
[09:40] <MonsterWizard> so anything arch can do
[09:40] <MonsterWizard> ubuntu can do too?
[09:41] <KatsumeBlisk> MonsterWizard: Well, anything is pretty broad, but I'd say so.
[09:41] <KatsumeBlisk> MonsterWizard: They're both Linux.
[09:41] <TJ-> eli_: well to gain access to another host the name must resolve using DNS, the host must be running the ssh server, and the firewalls must allow access
[09:41] <captine> hi all.  anyone able to assist with transfer speeds in Ubuntu.  Ubuntu laptop with wireless N broadcom card transfering files from macbook at 1mb.  only 2 laptops on the wifi and all close to the router
[09:42] <eli_> TJ- how will you write  the command when the user on a windows domain
[09:42] <biobeo> but there is also showing the ybuntu deskto and widgets.. and ashortcut which is Install Ubuntu and a directory Examples..
[09:43] <scisteffan> Are there any up to date instructions for installing Ingres SQL on ubuntu?
[09:43] <TJ-> eli_: If the system holding the file is Windows, you can't usually use SSH (scp/sftp) unless that server had an SSH server installed. You'll have to find another way... probably using a Windows Share on the server and samba on the Ubuntu PC
[09:44] <eli_> TJ-: i can shh to the machine, that's not the problem
[09:44] <eli_> the Problem is how to copy the file
[09:44] <TJ-> eli_: if you can ssh you should be able to scp too!
[09:45] <cfhowlett> biobeo: consider downloading the .iso via .torrent
[09:45] <multi_io> if I want to install Ubuntu 12.04 on a (to be created) raid1+lvm partition, can the setup create those for me or do I have to do it separately?
[09:46] <TJ-> multi_io: If you use the Alternate CD installer you can. Can't with the liveCD *unless* you do it manually
[09:46] <biobeo> tnx............
[09:46] <cfhowlett> multi_io: you can do that during installation
[09:47] <NetRunnerBlack_> Hi guys. I've had this problem for a while, but last time I tried to ask for help here I lost internet. I'm getting an error message that says E: Encountered a section with no Package: header, E: Problem with MergeList (package list location) E: The package lists or status could not be parsed or opened.
[09:49] <TJ-> NetRunnerBlack_: This might help you https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+faq/1591
[09:49] <jey_w> hm, I'm on 10.04, and in Administration->Login Screen, ive set the default session type
[09:49] <Paolas> p><a href="http://www.oracle.com"><img src="/errors/us/assets/oralogo-small.gif"'width="154" height="19" hspace="10" vspace="25" border="0" ></a></td>
[09:49] <jey_w> however if I login in from gdm it just logsme into GNOME :S
[09:49] <NetRunnerBlack_> I've looked at the package list named, and it seems to be HTML for a web page that asks for a password (to access the internet, and my internet is working perfectly). It says the password can be found at Cisco Connect.
[09:50] <jey_w> and mty new session doesnt appear in the Sessions dropdown in gdm either
[09:50] <NetRunnerBlack_> Thanks. Is it strange that all of my package lists have been replaced with HTML code?
[09:50] <dalek_> does anyone know how to interpret the signal/noise info given under Network>interfaces in hardInfo in Ubuntu? My is reading -33/154144744... is that normal?
[09:50] <multi_io> TJ-: ok. what about the "server" iso then? Can it do that too?
[09:50] <TJ-> NetRunnerBlack_: Yes!
[09:51] <Paolas> p><a href="http://www.oracle.com"><img src="/errors/us/assets/oralogo-small.gif"'width="154" height="19" hspace="10" vspace="25" border="0" ></a></td>
[09:51] <TJ-> multi_io: Yes, it's the main user of those facilities
[09:51] <Paolas> what the problem  ?
[09:51] <Smashcat> Anyone know how to prevent Ubuntu/apt from wrecking config files when you update?
[09:51] <dalek_> my other computer is reading -54/2    ...and that is a vast difference.
[09:51] <multi_io> TJ-: so the "alternate" and "desktop" iso support it, and the "desktop" iso doesn't?
[09:51] <multi_io> errm
[09:52] <NetRunnerBlack_> TJ- I'm going to paste the code up really quick. I kind of want to know what the hell happened, if anyone smarter then me wants to take a look at this I'd be really grateful.
[09:52] <multi_io> TJ-: so the "alternate" and "server" iso support it, and the "desktop" iso doesn't?
[09:52] <eli_> TJ-: so when i type scp progov.log<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:52] <eli_> but he doesn't copy anything
[09:52] <cfhowlett> Smashcat: separate /home usually does it for me...
[09:52] <NetRunnerBlack_> http://pastebin.com/ZsjRgW1M
[09:53] <timfrost> eli_: Any error messages?  If so, can you pastbin them?
[09:53] <eli_> timfrost: no  echo after the command
[09:53] <timfrost> !pastebin | eli_
[09:53] <eli_> i want to copy from a linux to windows
[09:53] <Smashcat> cfhowlett: No, i mean the config files in /etc. It's managed to mess up the dovecot config this time. Silly of me to do an update I guess - usually never update servers after install as I know ubuntu is pretty bad for this...
[09:54] <eli_> timfrost: the windows ip is <IP_ADDRESS> and the user is eli
[09:54] <llutz_> eli_: and you have ssh-server running on the windows machine?
[09:54] <NuSuey> anybody here with ati radeon 6850?
[09:55] <NetRunnerBlack_> Some of the package lists are normal, but at least %50 look like that.
[09:55] <eli_> llutz_:why??? i don't need it i have ssh server on the linux and putty client on windows
[09:55] <Blazemore> NuSuey: I have a 6870 which is close enough
[09:55] <llutz_> eli_: you need it to scp that way
[09:55] <NuSuey> Blazemore: any problems with it? because i have many with my 6850 under linux
[09:55] <eli_> llutz_: you mean that i need ssh sserver on both host?
[09:56] <llutz_> eli_: you need ssh-server on the host you want to connect to
[09:56] <llutz_> eli_: in your case, the windows-machine
[09:56] <llutz_> eli_: or use putty/pscp from windows to _pull_ the file from the linux-host
[09:57] <eli_> llutz_: the file i want is on the linux machine
[09:57] <llutz_> eli_: and? you either can push it (copy via scp) or pull it
[09:58] <eli_> llutz_: have you the command i write befor?
[09:58] <llutz_> eli_: read putty/pscp documentation
[09:58] <eli_> hhhhhh
[09:59] <NetRunnerBlack_> TJ- That seemed to work! Thanks!
[09:59] <eli_> i will never do it llutz_ you have to understand the question befor you anwser any thing
[09:59] <TJ-> NetRunnerBlack_: I know what happened"
[09:59] <llutz_> eli_: you're welcome
[09:59]  * NetRunnerBlack_ listens to TJ-?
[10:00] <TJ-> NetRunnerBlack_:Read that file you pasted... if you get far enough you'll realise it's the log-in screen from a captive WiFi portal asking you to log-in.
[10:00] <dr_willis>  eli_  restate the question then.... somthings gotten lost in translation.. or theres a failure to communicate.
[10:00] <NetRunnerBlack_> Right
[10:00] <TJ-> NetRunnerBlack_: So, when your machine tried to use HTTP to fetch the package list, the captive portal returned its own page rather than an error code, so your machine didn't realise the file didn't come from the Ubuntu archive
[10:01] <TJ-> NetRunnerBlack_: All archives use HTTP and regular web servers to host the packages
[10:01] <NetRunnerBlack_> Ohhhh
[10:01] <dr_willis> NetRunnerBlack_:   ive seen that at most public wifi places these days
[10:01] <TJ-> NetRunnerBlack_: captive portals assume all HTTP users are browsers with users in front of them, not machine processes!
[10:01] <Paolas> say me please how to add menu bar for newtork  ????
[10:01] <dr_willis> gotts use the browser first to hit ok for the places eula.
[10:02] <NetRunnerBlack_> TJ- Thanks. My internet goes down sometimes and it tries to use my neighbors captive wi-fi portal sometimes. I must have been off my network without realizing it and tried to update.
[10:02] <TJ-> NetRunnerBlack_: this might clue you on which one: "document.write("Enter the guest access password to access the Internet. Ask the owner if you don't know the password. The guest access password can be found using Cisco Connect.")"
[10:03] <NetRunnerBlack_> TJ- The neighbors actually feeds the browser this message: "Welcome to fuckers guest. Please enter the guest password, fucker." But I'm guessing that was modded heavily and I managed to get the original bit somehow? That's all I can think of anyway.
[10:03] <dr_willis> Paolas:  that made no sence.  give more details
[10:04] <bazhang> NetRunnerBlack_, no cursing here
[10:04] <NetRunnerBlack_> bazhang Sorry, my mistake.
[10:04] <mady1978> ciao
[10:05] <mady1978> !list
[10:05] <NetRunnerBlack_> Well, thanks for your help guys.
[10:06] <Paolas> E: Package sun-java6-jre has no installation candidate   ???
[10:06] <Postumus> Paolas, you need that Oracle PPA.
[10:06] <dr_willis> !java | Paolas
[10:07] <Postumus> Paolas, https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java
[10:07] <Blazemore> NuSuey: So problems with it, but don't use fglrx. Open-source radeon driver is fine
[10:08] <_skpl> hi blazemore.
[10:08] <Paolas> I dont understand this java
[10:08] <Paolas> better give me here command in terminal
[10:08] <Paolas> please
[10:08] <bazhang> Paolas, read the link.
[10:09] <Paolas> I dont know all
[10:09] <Paolas> I am new on ubuntu
[10:09] <dr_willis> the wiki page gave the exact commands...
[10:09] <jpds> Paolas: Noone does.
[10:09] <Paolas> and I am deaf really
[10:09] <_skpl> hha/
[10:09] <bazhang> Paolas, then read the link we have given you
[10:09] <cfhowlett> ...and we'll type quietly?
[10:09] <Paolas> better here help and i like
[10:09] <livingdaylight> With 8gb RAM is swap required?
[10:09] <Paolas> there java link after where see that version  ?
[10:10] <Blazemore> livingdaylight: It depends what you're running
[10:10] <jpds> livingdaylight: Do you want to be able to hibernate?
[10:10] <livingdaylight> Does the old 2x amount of ram for Swap still apply?
[10:10] <supasnashbuhl> livingdaylight: i wouldn't use swap even with 2 gigs
[10:10] <dr_willis> livingdaylight:  i always put at least 512mb of swap. swap is needed if you want to hibernate
[10:10] <Blazemore> livingdaylight: If you have enough disk space, assign some swap.
[10:10] <jpds> Paolas: Read this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[10:11] <supasnashbuhl> dr_willis: are you sure hibernate uses swap? And not some file on the system?
[10:11] <TJ-> livingdaylight: Do you want to be able to hibernate the system eventually? If so, a large swap is a good idea - it's used for the hibernation image
[10:11] <livingdaylight> hibernation is good, but I don't need to assign twice the amount of Ram for swap then?
[10:11] <dr_willis> livingdaylight: swap=ram+a little bit more. is common these days
[10:11] <jpds> supasnashbuhl: It uses swap.
[10:11] <Wuschii> having some trouble with upgrading
[10:11] <Wuschii> http://pastebin.com/UnXrzVZ0
[10:11] <supasnashbuhl> jpds: that's stupid..
[10:11] <jpds> supasnashbuhl: Where else are you going to shove a copy of your working RAM?
[10:11] <lloowen> Hello all! Currently running Ubuntu 10.04 with blackbox wm installed. Just wondering what is the best way to start up applications on boot up. i.e. conky
[10:11] <Wuschii> theres something wrong bind9 but i dont know how to fix it....
[10:11] <Paolas> but what OpenJDK ,  Oracle (Sun) Java 6 , Oracle Java 7, IBM Java or GNU Compiler: that download  ???
[10:12] <supasnashbuhl> jpds: idk somewhere inside /
[10:12] <livingdaylight> so, on a 500gb HD with 8gb RAM how much swap is recommended? 16gb??
[10:12] <supasnashbuhl> jpds: but that's good to know
[10:12] <llutz_> supasnashbuhl: thats stupid
[10:12] <jpds> livingdaylight: 10?
[10:12] <dr_willis> livingdaylight: swap=ram+a little bit more. is common these days
[10:12] <jpds> llutz_ / supasnashbuhl: No name calling, please; this has probably already been thought out by clever kernel developers.
[10:12] <dr_willis> livingdaylight:  ifyou dont need hibernate then yoy can use less.
[10:13] <llutz_> sry jpds
[10:13] <supasnashbuhl> jpds: the stupid wasn't directed to any person. sorry.
[10:13] <livingdaylight> dr_willis, does hibernation only work if 2x the amount of ram is assigned to swap? What if I gave it 4gb?
[10:13] <supasnashbuhl> directed at?
[10:13] <supasnashbuhl> whatever
[10:14] <dr_willis> livingdaylight: swap=ram+a little bit more  for hibernate
[10:14] <prakash> Hello all Recently I Updated to ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[10:14] <jpds> livingdaylight: Swap involves putting ALL of your memory into swap.
[10:14] <Smashcat> livingdaylight: You could probably just use a swap file, and a script to enable swap just before the system goes into hibernation if needed. Having swap on all the time is no big issue really though
[10:14] <jpds> livingdaylight: Hibernate involves*
[10:14] <prakash> and I am unsatisfied by its performance
[10:14] <TJ-> Wuschii: see this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/886333
[10:15] <supasnashbuhl> i don't understand why there can't be a scalable swap, so that IF it's needed it will allocate some space on the drive..
[10:15] <Wuschii> thanks TJ
[10:15] <jpds> livingdaylight: So you're going to need the amount of RAM you have, plus a little bit more.
[10:15] <prakash> Facing a bug since upgrade to 12.04LTS
[10:15] <jpds> supasnashbuhl: You could use a swap file.
[10:15] <prakash> can any onr help ??????????
[10:15] <Smashcat> supasnashbuhl: There would be a massive performance hit if you did that with swap.
[10:15] <jpds> prakash: You need to give more details on the issue.
[10:15] <TJ-> jpds: Linux using a swap partition so it can write direct and fast to the block device; it doesn't have to go through the VFS
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> prakash  start with a question
[10:15] <bazhang> !details | prakash
[10:15] <livingdaylight> jpds, yea, i see... seems a shame to give that much away, but, if I want hibernation then its necessary
[10:16] <lloowen>  Hello all! Currently running Ubuntu 10.04 with blackbox wm installed. Just wondering what is the best way to start up applications on boot up. i.e. conky
[10:16] <llutz_> jpds: even a swap-file has a fixed size you need to specify before. so its not scalable
[10:16] <supasnashbuhl> Smashcat: can you explain why? Because a swap file can get fragmented?
[10:16] <prakash> Every time I login it gives me System Error pop up
[10:16] <TJ-> Wuschii: I think the problem is something to do with the runlevel you are at when you run those commands... did you start in 'single' mode?
[10:16] <livingdaylight> hibernation is a good thing, right?
[10:17] <TJ-> livingdaylight: Allows you to save state and take the battery out
[10:17] <Smashcat> supasnashbuhl: The swap partition is not a normal filesystem, it's for dumping and reading RAM. So adding the overhead of having to resize it etc will damage performance
[10:17] <supasnashbuhl> livingdaylight: with ssd's yes :)
[10:17] <Wuschii> TJ i just wanted to upgrade my system but it hangs at exactly this step
[10:17] <prakash> jpds: Every time I login it gives me System Error pop up
[10:17] <Wuschii> waited 5 minutes nothing does
[10:17] <TJ-> Wuschii: are you on the system now? can you run a couple of commands for me?
[10:18] <Wuschii> yes i can its a server
[10:18] <supasnashbuhl> Smashcat: alright.. makes sense. But i find it really hard to determine some "good" size for swap..
[10:18] <prakash> jpds: It is happing since i upgraded to 12.04
[10:18] <TJ-> Wuschii: try this: "runlevel"
[10:18] <lloowen>  Hello all! Currently running Ubuntu 10.04 with blackbox wm installed. Just wondering what is the best way to start up applications on boot up. Is configuring applications to run via /etc/init.d the only way?
[10:18] <Smashcat> supasnashbuhl: Just make it the same size as your RAM, plus a little bit.
[10:18] <Wuschii> o.O
[10:19] <Wuschii> sshd: hello ?
[10:19] <supasnashbuhl> Smashcat: okay.. good.
[10:19] <TJ-> Wuschii: You killed the sshd?
[10:19] <Wuschii> no
[10:19] <prakash> ubottu : I recently upgraded to 12.04 since the I am getting a system error pop up
[10:19] <Wuschii> i have to restart over webi
[10:20] <Smashcat> supasnashbuhl: If you have plenty of RAM, and don't need hibernation, you can turn it off, but there's little gain from turning it off, and disk space is cheap
[10:20] <prakash> ubottu : ok
[10:20] <Smashcat> supasnashbuhl: Obviously with SSD's you shouldn't be running swap on them.
[10:20] <supasnashbuhl> Smashcat: i think you're right.
[10:20] <prakash> ubottu : how should i state a problem to you
[10:20] <jpds> prakash: Send a report, or cancel it.
[10:21] <Paolas> but what OpenJDK ,  Oracle (Sun) Java 6 , Oracle Java 7, IBM Java or GNU Compiler: that download  ???   this that click need it  ?
[10:21] <lloowen> Hello all 1604 people in this room!! Currently running Ubuntu 10.04 with blackbox wm installed. Just wondering what is the best way to start up applications on boot up. Is configuring applications to run via /etc/init.d the only way?
[10:21] <supasnashbuhl> prakash: dude.. ubottu is a bot (computer program) not a real person...
[10:21] <MonkeyDust> prakash  ubottu is a machine, a script, a (ro)bot
[10:21] <Paolas> Oracle (Sun) Java 6  can install   ??
[10:22] <prakash> jpds: I have already done that but after few min. it again pop ups. It really faustrating
[10:22] <Wuschii> TJ i have to contact the support... hes dead amen
[10:22] <Wuschii> dont want to restart over webinterface
[10:22] <jpds> prakash: Can you follow instructions like: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Oracle_.28Sun.29_Java_6 ?
[10:22] <prakash> jpds: I had a great expirence with 11.10 but 12.04 has been disappointing
[10:23] <jpds> prakash: Then something is broken is broken on your system, either report the issue or ignore it.
[10:23] <prakash> jpds: yes, I am software developer
[10:23] <Paolas> pfffffffff
[10:23] <TJ-> Wuschii: OK ... well I wanted you to find out which runlevel the system is on ... if its 0 or 6 or even 1, that might be the cause
[10:23] <Paolas> owrap><a href="http://www.oracle.com"><img src="/errors/us/assets/oralogo-small.gif" width="154" height="19" hspace="10" vspace="25" border="0" ></a></t'> charlos@L-I-N-U-X:~$ sudo mv jre1.6.0_31 /usr/lib/jvm/ mv: cannot stat `jre1.6.0_31': No such file or directory charlos@L-I-N-U-X:~$
[10:23] <FloodBot1> Paolas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:23] <cfhowlett> !paste|paolas
[10:24] <lloowen> Hello all! Currently running Ubuntu 10.04 with blackbox wm installed. Just wondering what is the best way to start up applications on boot up. Is configuring applications to run via /etc/init.d the only way?
[10:24] <Paolas> how to make problem java  ??? :-?
[10:24] <prakash> jpds: ok. How is your expirence about ubuntu 12.04
[10:24] <jpds> prakash: Lovely, much snappier than 11.10.
[10:25] <Paolas> what do you say ? tell me know man im work here man
[10:25] <Paolas> time come what do you say me problem java   ?
[10:25] <lloowen> What is the best way to run applications at boot up?
[10:25] <prakash> jpds: ok thanks for the help
[10:26] <jpds> prakash: You could try looking in /var/crash to see what's crashing.
[10:26] <prakash> jpds: ok, will look at it
[10:28] <SebZek> hi all
[10:28] <Wuschii> TJ: they have to update the bios in this cloud... therefore no ssh :D
[10:28] <SebZek> what this :: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[10:28] <prakash> What is the review of Ubuntu 12.04 should I upgrade from 11.10 ???
[10:29] <OMGUBUNTU> Hey you all
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> prakash  12.04 is the most recent and it is LTS, so yes
[10:29] <cfhowlett> prakash: 12.04 works.  personally, I only install LTS
[10:29] <TJ-> Wuschii: OK, well, if you search you'll find mentions on the Debian and Ubuntu bug-trackers of that message from several packages, not just bind. The key is the runlevel the system is at when it is run
[10:29] <Smashcat> Great, so the default in dovecot now is to listen on an ipv6 interface ;-) Wonder whose brilliant idea that was...
[10:29] <OMGUBUNTU> 12.04 works fine for me
[10:30] <Wuschii> thanks TJ if the problem still exists if the server are back online, i will ask again in #ubuntu
[10:30] <Wuschii> ^^
[10:30] <SebZek>  what this :: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready, how to remove this message in menuconfig ?
[10:30] <W4sp> lloowen: You would need to familiarize yourself with System V. If you blackbox and want to run a program after you logged in: blackbox wm reads from .xinitrc | .xsession in ~/. Just add '<application> &' before you exec your wm.
[10:30] <prakash> monkeydust: What does LTS really means ?? is it more stable ??
[10:30] <jpds> prakash: Long Term Support.
[10:30] <prakash> cfhowlett: What does LTS really means ?? is it more stable ??
[10:30] <jpds> !lts | prakash
[10:31] <cfhowlett> prakash: not as bleeding edge and more effort is put into development and maintenance over the long haul.
[10:31] <jalexandru> !Precise | praksh
[10:32] <Guest73244> ...
[10:32] <MonkeyDust> prakash  that's a lot of info, no? ;)
[10:32] <prakash> ok thanks every one going to upgrade to 12.04 on my other computers
[10:32] <prakash> monkeydust : yup, great community
[10:33] <lloowen> W4sp: Thanks for the tip. I have not had any luck with the .xinitrc file. Blackbox does not even run when the .xinitrc file is present. I currently have blackbox running from login via the .profile file.
[10:34] <guest_mystic> !info
[10:37] <btcbuy314> how do i change the color scheme to white on black (white letters) for urxvt
[10:38] <TJ-> lloowen: I think you might have to do "ln -s ~/.xinitrc ~/.xsession"
[10:38] <W4sp> lloowen: I see. Your DM (gdm or lightboxdm or whatever you've got) would need to be able to pass on what DE has been chosen. That sounds easy but actually some DM follow X.org. AFAIK gdm and lightdm don't. .xinitrc should be read by blackbox surely.
[10:39] <TJ-> lloowen: This page might help... it mentions Blackbox, and towards the end how to automate the session https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomXSession
[10:39] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:39] <W4sp> lloowen: TJ- is right, create one and ln them.
[10:39] <susundberg> _o/
[10:41] <alba-andy> guys, my httpd users 'apache' says it cant write to a specific directory, how can I add it without changing the directory owner?
[10:42] <TJ-> alba-andy: usually you add the directory owner to the www-data group, and then set the directory's group to www-data
[10:42] <lloowen> W4sp: My current setup is ubuntu 10.04 minimal from a net install with no WM. Just blackbox. This set up is running on a thin client with just 102Mb RAM so I'm doing as much as I can command line only. When I installed blackbox wm there was no .xinitrc present at all. Just .xsession-errors
[10:42] <theadmin> alba-andy: 1) make a group, 2) add the "apache" user to that group, 3) change the directory owner OR 1) change your fstab to mount the drive directory's on with the "acl" option, 2) use the "setfacl" command to allow the user write access to the directory.
[10:43] <TJ-> alba-andy: obviously you'd also ensure the directory group owner has write permissions
[10:43] <theadmin> alba-andy: s/owner/group/
[10:45] <alba-andy> thanks guys, ill give it a try
[10:45] <lloowen> Tj: thanks for the link. Looking into it.
[10:46] <lloowen> W4sp: Thanks for your help
[10:46] <W4sp> lloowen: the .xsession-errors were created by your blackbox. You need to create .xinitrc or .xsession yourself. I need to know if it is 102 MB aor 1024 MB? Speller?
[10:46] <person> I want to use Lubuntu but is it safe?
[10:46] <theadmin> person: "safe"?
[10:46] <person> How do I know somone hasn't put some bad code in it
[10:46] <jpds> person: It's open-source?
[10:46] <person> it's a niche OS
[10:46] <lloowen> W4sp: 102Mb
[10:46] <llutz_> person: you have to trust
[10:47] <jpds> person: Go and read the source if you're so concerned.
[10:47] <person> alright
[10:47] <MonkeyDust> person  it's open source, if someone tried, te others would notice immediately
[10:47] <cfhowlett> person: open source
[10:47] <person> lol I lack the skills
[10:47] <llutz_> MonkeyDust: nice theory
[10:47] <person> It is trusted by canonical, right? it's on their website
[10:47] <theadmin> person: Well, if you don't trust Canonical, go ahead and use something else. However there's no reason to believe there is "bad code" in any of the officially supported Ubuntu releases.
[10:47] <cfhowlett> person: well you could use windoze.  Nobody EVER hacks that OS ...
[10:47] <lloowen> W4sp: It has 128Mb ram but 26Mb is dedicated for the video
[10:47] <jpds> person: Lubuntu is not supported by Canonical.
[10:48] <theadmin> jpds: Uh, yes it is. Kubuntu isn't. Or did they change something again?
[10:48] <person> what's the difference between ubuntu and lubuntu apart from the desktop environment?
[10:48] <cfhowlett> lubuntu is an official canonical distro.  Kubuntu is not
[10:48] <MonkeyDust> person  lubuntu is maintained by the cummunity
[10:48] <theadmin> person: Different app choices (e.g. Ubuntu has Firefox whereas Lubuntu has Chromium)
[10:48] <jpds> theadmin: Lubuntu never was supported by Canonical.
[10:48] <person> ubuntu is too heavy for my old system see
[10:48] <W4sp> lloowen: I guess that's somewhere on the lower end then. ;-) If blackbox comes up ... That's all you need.
[10:49] <nrdb> thunderbird is giving me trouble... it wont start it keeps saying "Thunderbird is already running, but is not responding"... but it isn't... plus I have just rebooted... how can I get it going again?
[10:49] <theadmin> nrdb: Look in your home directory under .mozilla for thunderbird-related things, there may be a lockfile
[10:50] <Ormie> Hi, I have a Song CD. I have problem mounting it "sudo mount /dev/sr0 mycd". It outputs that the media fs is unknown or something like that and it doesn't mount. I am on Ubuntu Server 12.04. Please help. Thanks.
[10:50] <person> so there is no reason why lubuntu is different from ubuntu
[10:50] <jpds> chasmo: It's not.
[10:50] <llutz_> Ormie: you don't mount audio-cds to play them
[10:50] <jpds> cfhowlett: ↑
[10:51] <Ormie> llutz_: ?
[10:51] <MonkeyDust> person  it's lighter, the layout is different, other programmes installed by default
[10:51] <llutz_> Ormie: you don't mount audio-cds to play them
[10:51] <Ormie> yeah, ok. but...
[10:51] <lloowen> W4sp: I'm amazed what you can run on so little. Blackbox + Mplayer = supprisingly good media player!
[10:51] <nrdb> theadmin, under the .mozilla directory there is only a "extensions" and "firefox" directories... the ~/.thunderbird   directory I haven't found a 'lock' file
[10:51] <W4sp> lloowen: Please note that Ubuntu loads a lot of other gnome related stuff even if your desired X windows is 'just' blackbox. Most GNOME daemons are not really required unless you need them. ;-) Try to get an xdm only environment with just blackbox and see how far you get.
[10:51] <theadmin> nrdb: Hm, okay.
[10:51] <Ormie> llutz_: so what shall i do?
[10:52] <Ormie> bye bye erry! :P
[10:52] <theadmin> W4sp: Not if you're using a server or minimal install, just saying
[10:52] <person> I guess I am having trouble trusting open source, anyone could write harmful code and say it's a distro
[10:52] <W4sp> lloowen: Once the X windows sytem is up you should be fine. Good luck
[10:53] <Ormie> Hi, I have a Song CD. I have problem mounting it "sudo mount /dev/sr0 mycd". It outputs that the media fs is unknown or something like that and it doesn't mount.  I didn't see it because 'ls' wasn't showing it.
[10:54] <Ormie> >.<
[10:54] <theadmin> jpds: "Lubuntu 11.10 is the first version of Lubuntu with official sanction as a member of the Ubuntu family." -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubuntu
[10:54] <llutz_> Ormie: ask a question and wait for an answer
[10:54] <geirha> I believe gnome-volume manager can generate a virtual filesystem for audio cds
[10:54]  * Ormie gives llutz_ a tux
[10:54] <nrdb> theadmin, it is going now.
[10:54]  * Ormie then hugs erry.
[10:54] <luftikuss> I produced a MySQL dump of a database using mysqldump. The filename is 20120807. How to restore the MySQL database from this file, preferably using phpMyAdmin? refman-5.5-en.a4.pdf does not explain that in section "mysqldump".
[10:54] <compdoc> person, you have any idea how many Windows programs in the world are actually infections? Users have no idea who wrote them, and ye they install them
[10:55] <compdoc> yet
[10:55] <theadmin> !yay | nrdb
[10:55] <W4sp> theadmin: Yes, that's a thing really nagging me, for instance you don't get printer spooling authorized from CLI, your key rings don't open and such. It can be a pain in the back.
[10:55] <person> compdoc hmmm I guess you're right, I mean you can't even see the source for them programs, right?
[10:55] <jpds> theadmin: That means that it's community supported, not commerically supported by Canonical.
[10:55] <person> like no one can read the source code for photoshop
[10:55] <Ormie> bye all
[10:55] <jpds> theadmin: Just as there are other members of the Ubuntu family.
[10:55] <person> what if photoshop has code that copys for internet cahce or something?
[10:56] <TJ-> Ormie: you can use the cdcd package and tools to do it
[10:56] <compdoc> person, if you use packages from the approved Ubuntu sources, they are tested
[10:56] <MonkeyDust> person  no paranoia here, please
[10:56] <person> sorry
[10:56] <theadmin> jpds: I see... Well, I don't really understand it, and I don't seriously think support from Canonical matters all that much long as the community support exists.
[10:56] <jpds> theadmin: Tell that to an entreprise. ;)
[10:56] <person> I'm guessing Lubuntu can use ubuntu approved packages
[10:57] <cfhowlett> person: yep.
[10:57] <administrator_> 可一说中文不
[10:57] <theadmin> person: It does use Ubuntu approved packages. All the Lubuntu repositories are same as the Ubuntu ones.
[10:57] <theadmin> jpds: Heh
[10:57] <overclucker> luftikuss: click the database you wantt to import it into, and look for the import button. import as SQL.
[10:57] <cfhowlett> !korean|administrator
[10:57] <October82> anyone know how to change purple color of grub?
[10:57] <W4sp> person: Photoshop, like almost all Adobe products, try to play E.T. ...calling home. You may consider to edit your /etc/hosts. ;-)
[10:58] <szal> cfhowlett: language recognition fail ;)
[10:59] <MonkeyDust> !jp
[11:00] <luftikuss> overclucker, Noticed. This will take me a while because I am not used to this subject and not fluent in it.
[11:00] <himanshu_m786> hi , I want my icons in ubuntu 12.04 . can anybody  tell me where is all the icons are stored ?
[11:00] <himanshu_m786> i want to change them
[11:01] <theadmin> himanshu_m786: Most of them are spread across /usr/share/icons/ and /usr/share/pixmaps/
[11:01] <October82> anyone know how to change purple color of grub? please?
[11:01] <overclucker> luftikuss: you may need to destroy the tables in the database before importing.
[11:02] <luftikuss> overclucker, Ok.
[11:05] <TreaverHoerig> Hello, I need help. I recently launched WOW with WINE. WINE runs wow even better than this computer did when windows ran it. The only thing is all the icons are either scrambled or completely missing. I need help fixing this so I can actually use the items and play wow. Here is a screen shot so you can see for yourself. : http://screencloud.net/v/minu
[11:05] <TJ-> luftikuss: You'd usually use mysqlimport to add mysqldump data to a database. See http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/copying-databases.html
[11:06] <overclucker> luftikuss: there should be a check all option, then select drop from the 'with selected' box and confirm
[11:06] <luftikuss> TJ-, I see
[11:06] <cfhowlett> TreaverHoerig: see http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1922
[11:08] <theadmin> Is there a way I can tell Ubuntu to automount any FAT32 drive with iocharset=utf8,codepage=1251?
[11:08] <MrUnkownGuy> hello
[11:08] <MrUnkownGuy> how do i install Folding @ Home?
[11:09] <MrUnkownGuy> anyone?
[11:09] <theadmin> !patience | MrUnkownGuy
[11:09] <MrUnkownGuy> srry
[11:09] <isnnnn> MrUnkownGuy: download the .deb
[11:09] <TJ-> theadmin: I believe you can use pam_mount.conf (see man 5 pam_mount.conf)
[11:09] <MrUnkownGuy> thanks
[11:09] <MrUnkownGuy> brb
[11:10] <theadmin> TJ-: Hm, thanks
[11:11] <theadmin> TJ-: No manual entry for pam_mount.conf
[11:11] <himanshu_m786> theadmin : there i didn't  not find  default folder icon  .
[11:12] <TJ-> theadmin: You'll need package libpam-mount
[11:12] <Ormie> Hello
[11:13] <compdoc> how's life in the big city?
[11:13] <theadmin> TJ-: Okay, hm, does that work in KDE?
[11:13] <Ormie> Please help. MPlayer seems to freeze the music from the CD time to time. How do I fix this?
[11:13] <Ormie> .
[11:13] <Volpes> Hi!
[11:14] <odigity> Is there a way to associate a short-cut with a specific app window?  My problem is I use three apps when I program (browser, editor, shell), and Alt-Tab can be annoying if you forget which of those had focus previously
[11:14] <Ormie> hmm...
[11:14] <odigity> would love to be able to jump to each of the three specifically
[11:14] <Ormie> MPlayer seems to freeze the music from the CD time to time. How do I fix this?
[11:15] <theadmin> !patience Ormie
[11:15] <theadmin> Oops
[11:15] <spaceace85> oh gosh, I need help with ALSA and my new motherboard :'(
[11:15] <Ormie> nou
[11:15] <administrator_> e
[11:16] <Ormie> theadmin, bleh... i dodged it. :D
[11:16] <MrUnkownGuy> i can't find it
[11:16] <Volpes> Just brought a new UX32VD and now i want to install Ubuntu on it. I have read that UX32VD is only stable on kernel 3.4 and higher. Should i install 12.04 and build custom kernel or install 12.10 aplha?
[11:16] <Volpes> alpha*
[11:16] <MrUnkownGuy> i gtg
[11:17] <theadmin> MrUnkownGuy: http://folding.stanford.edu/English/HomePage - click the "Other Versions", find the .deb for your architecture
[11:18] <TJ-> Volpes: You don't need to, we already build the mainline kernels and package them. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[11:18] <Layke> If I wanted to reinstall ubuntu on my solid state.. what would you advise I do? I'm a little worried about it taking forever since I forget what packages I've installed, etc. Or perhaps missing configs.
[11:19] <btcbuy314> can somebody reply to me, i need to check if the color is readable now
[11:19] <llutz_> Layke: backup /etc and a list of installed packages
[11:19] <llutz_> !clone | Layke
[11:19] <Volpes> TJ: Thank you! I will install 12.04 at once :D
[11:20] <TJ-> Layke: You could simply clone the existing installation over to the other device and then switch... which will ensure any custom config is retained, or you could generate a list of installed packages and then use it later in a script to install those packages
[11:20] <btcbuy314> i need somebody to type btcbuy314: test
[11:20] <TJ-> Volpes: for you information I'm running 3.5 here and it's very smooth
[11:20] <btcbuy314> btcbuy314: test
[11:20] <TJ-> btcbuy314: Yes we see you
[11:20] <Layke> Thanks. That clone sounds good too
[11:20] <Ormie> Please help. MPlayer seems to freeze the music from the CD time to time. How do I fix this???
[11:20] <odigity> I figured it out.  Super Key + Num
[11:21] <btcbuy314> TJ-: thanks, previously the the name of the person replying to me was yellow and unreadable
[11:21] <TJ-> btcbuy314: Ahhh, the colour choices can get a bit over the top sometimes
[11:22] <btcbuy314> yep yellow name on white background was getting very annoying
[11:23] <Ormie> btcbuy314: try black background.
[11:23] <btcbuy314> i would tilt my screen all the way back to barely be able to make it out
[11:26] <joseph-soares> About SSH, I've changed server settings and client doesn't know it anymore
[11:27] <joseph-soares> when I try to connect it returns this message: "WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED"
[11:27] <theadmin> joseph-soares: Well, yeah, that's supposed to happen if your server's settings changed, just let it trust it again
[11:28] <JasperCoenraats> hello
[11:29] <JasperCoenraats> can anybody help with remove a printercomponent for installing a lexmark again after failing?
[11:29] <TJ-> joseph-soares: If you trust the new key the server is presenting, then you can remove the known key on the client using: "ssh-keygen -R <servername>"
[11:30] <JasperCoenraats> tj: sorry I don't I get ypur point
[11:31] <theadmin> JasperCoenraats: (s)he's not talking to you.
[11:31] <JasperCoenraats> aha
[11:31] <JasperCoenraats> I get it
[11:31] <JasperCoenraats> sorry
[11:32] <JasperCoenraats> is there someone who can help me staying with linux?
[11:32] <theadmin> JasperCoenraats: "staying with"?
[11:32] <joseph-soares> theadmin, http://paste.debian.net/182539
[11:33] <theadmin> joseph-soares: As TJ- said, run ssh-keygen -R servername
[11:33] <JasperCoenraats> I have to leave it and get back to win, for just a printer
[11:34] <theadmin> JasperCoenraats: Open the CUPS configuration, try to add your printer. Or look on your manufacturer's website for a PPD file if you're not seeing it in the CUPS list
[11:34] <JasperCoenraats> cups?\
[11:34] <theadmin> JasperCoenraats: Open this in your web browser: http://<IP_ADDRESS>:631
[11:34] <joseph-soares> TJ-, theadmin : thank you.
[11:35] <TJ-> JasperCoenraats: cups = Common Unix Printing System
[11:35] <JasperCoenraats> thnx
[11:35] <JasperCoenraats> gonna look there first
[11:35] <theadmin> wait, wut. CUPS is developed by Apple?! That's... very new and very dissapointing for me
[11:37] <odigity> zeroconf was also developed by Apple (was called Bonjour).  they do occasionally do something beyond sell fancy hardware
[11:38] <dr_willis> did they develop it.. or did they just swallow up a smaller company that developed it.. ;)
[11:38] <theadmin> odigity: "fancy hardware"? More of "fancy software"... I can buy hardware twice better than Apple's for the same price you know. Anyway, we got offtopic.
[11:39] <odigity> dr willis - I am not google, but just this once I'll do your work for you:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUPS
[11:39] <odigity> what's the topic?
[11:39] <theadmin> odigity: Ubuntu support questions here only, basically.
[11:39] <JasperCoenraats> theadmin: username and password?
[11:40] <theadmin> JasperCoenraats: Your system user's username/password
[11:40] <JasperCoenraats> aha
[11:40] <JasperCoenraats> well, that working all the way, accept in these kind of cases
[11:40] <JasperCoenraats> I can login with it in my pc
[11:40] <JasperCoenraats> but not in authentications like this
[11:41] <JasperCoenraats> are you familliair with that?
[11:41] <odigity> theadmin - well, I came here 30m ago to ask a question, but ended up having to answer it myself  :)
[11:41] <odigity> did anyone see my answer, btw?  it's not documented in the usual places, and it's terribly useful
[11:41] <theadmin> odigity: That happens, unfortunately. Though you feel the best when you figure it out yourself don't you?
[11:41] <paulus68> perhaps a stupid question how does ubuntu behave with pci usb3 adapters? is this supported within Ubuntu Server12.04
[11:41] <odigity> theadmin - when it turns out to be easy, yes
[11:41] <dr_willis> post the question and answer to askubuntu.com for future referance perhaps odigity
[11:42] <TJ-> Super+<number>
[11:42] <odigity> TJ - yup, that's the one
[11:42] <dr_willis> paulus68:  pci or pci express?   the pci express i had worked fine
[11:43] <Volpes> So what kernel should I install on Ubuntu 12.04: 3.4 or 3.5? As said previously standard kernel is not a choice...
[11:43] <theadmin> What does "internal error" mean in "Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error"? That appeared in my notification area.
[11:43] <paulus68> dr_willis: well I'am just informing myself before I buy the required pci/pci express card
[11:43] <JasperCoenraats> theadmin: did you see my message? I can login with a combination that never works for authentication in the kind of situations
[11:44] <theadmin> JasperCoenraats: Hm, well, I'm not sure
[11:44] <TJ-> odigity: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/shell-keyboard-shortcuts.html
[11:44] <TJ-> odigity: It's called the "meta" key in documentation
[11:44] <JasperCoenraats> theadmin: i even  reinstalled Ubuntu for it
[11:45] <JasperCoenraats> didnot help
[11:45] <dr_willis> if you press and hold the super key. 12.04+ shows a shortcut page
[11:45] <odigity> I added a note to the answer here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/what-are-unitys-keyboard-and-mouse-shortcuts/64572#64572
[11:46] <Guest47966> go on
[11:46] <odigity> TJ - nice (the URL you posted).  they refer to it as the Meta key instead of the Super key, but they also describe adding Shift to open a new window in the same app, which is another frustration of mine (until now)
[11:46] <alessandro> ciao
[11:47] <alessandro> film?
[11:47] <TrevMyster> Ok I can't find a fix. In WINE when playing wow nearly all the pictures are stretched or pixelated. How do I fix this?  http://screencloud.net/v/minu
[11:47] <odigity> just tried it.  it actually opened a new tab instead of new window (in gedit).  still useful
[11:47] <dr_willis> meta key = alt key i thought
[11:47] <DJones> !piracy | alessandro
[11:47] <odigity> nope, meta + number (1-0)
[11:47] <odigity> sorry, misread your statement
[11:47] <theadmin> dr_willis: Normally, Meta is Alt indeed. The Windows key is Super.
[11:48] <TJ-> If you hold down the meta key the left dock appears and after a second or two each launcher item has its meta number superimposed so you know which key to press
[11:48] <theadmin> But some people seem to mix the definitions
[11:48] <dr_willis> now we need a  'duper' key.. so we can super-duper-delete
[11:48] <theadmin> dr_willis: Hehe
[11:48] <odigity> not in the help.ubuntu.com article that TJ linked to.  they clearly mention both Meta and Alt, implying that they are different, which means they are using Meta to refer to the Windows key
[11:48] <TJ-> dr_willis: Shift+Delete is my super-duper-GUI-delete
[11:48] <theadmin> Speaking of, does Ctrl-Alt-Delete do anything by default?
[11:48] <odigity> so Meta = Super = Windows.  Alt is just Alt
[11:48] <TJ-> Meta key: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/windows-key.html
[11:48] <odigity> theadmin - try it
[11:49] <dr_willis> !dontzap
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> but: windows is not super ;)
[11:49] <theadmin> odigity: Well, I know that in Fedora that shortcut reboots. I have a driver install going on, don't want to interrupt that
[11:49] <TrevMyster> Ok I can't find a fix. In WINE when playing wow nearly all the pictures are stretched or pixelated. How do I fix this?  http://screencloud.net/v/minu --- Incase the other didn't send
[11:49] <odigity> on ubuntu 12.04, ctrl+alt+del prompts me if I want to log out
[11:49] <dr_willis> theadmin:  at the console it does i belive
[11:49] <odigity> so, it's safe to try
[11:49] <theadmin> TrevMyster: Open "Additional Drivers", look for your video card driver.
[11:50] <MonkeyDust> TrevMyster  better ask in #wine, i guess
[11:50] <inflex> Anyone running Ubuntu from a USB stick?  I've used the usb-creator-gtk but every time I boot it still asks if I want to install or try - rather than just going straight into "trying" and using it like a real disc :(
[11:50] <theadmin> inflex: Well, you shouldn't have used usb-creator. Just boot Ubuntu from elsewhere and install it to the USB stick as you would to a hard drive.
[11:50] <TrevMyster> Ok I can't find a fix. In WINE when playing wow nearly all the pictures are stretched or pixelated. How do I fix this?  http://screencloud.net/v/minu
[11:50] <dr_willis> inflex:  you can do a 'full' nirmal install to a usb if itsa big enough
[11:51] <inflex> oh... that simple eh... *doh*
[11:51] <TJ-> TrevMyster: That effect can happen on native Windows too with WoW, if the wrong resolution is selected. Also, the corrupted icons is usually because the video card has run out of memory for all the textures.
[11:51] <inflex> too many years with UNIX and I get caught out by the 'dead easy' option
[11:51] <compdoc> inflex, then you didnt install Ubuntu, you just transferred the installer
[11:51] <dr_willis> inflex:  be sure grub installs to the mbr of the usb
[11:51] <inflex> tx folks.
[11:51] <TrevMyster> TJ How do I fix it
[11:51] <en1gma> does the ubuntu live cd have a "toram" option ?
[11:52] <TJ-> TrevMyster: there isn't always a fix... make sure you've got the best Ubuntu drivers for the video controller first
[11:52] <dr_willis> en1gma:  i think it does.. or at least used to
[11:52] <dr_willis> !bootoptions
[11:52] <en1gma> what is the correct command? is it "toram=yes" or just "toram"?
[11:52] <TrevMyster> TJ How do I check that
[11:52] <s3r3n1t7> en1gma, if it still works it won't have changed: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1583206
[11:53] <inflex> oh joy... it wants 4.4GB... and naturally I have 4GB sticks *hooray*
[11:53] <TJ-> TrevMyster: As theadmin said... " Open "Additional Drivers", look for your video card driver"
[11:54] <dr_willis> inflex: id reccomend a 16+gb flash. lubuntu can go on a 4gb.. barely
[11:54] <TJ-> inflex: it's the obesity pandemic :p
[11:54] <dr_willis> found 32gb usb on sale for $20 last week
[11:54] <inflex> dr_willis: you guys are killing me... I'm going to get my Slackware 3.6 floppies and sulk in the corner with my beloved 1.2.13 kernel.
[11:55] <luftikuss> overclucker, When trying to import the file 20120807, pphpMyAdmin reports: "localhost: You probably tried to upload too large file. Please refer to documentation for ways to workaround this limit." The file size is 73 MiB.
[11:55] <dr_willis> inflex:  cp/m all the way!
[11:55] <inflex> dr_willis: was going to get one of those new ultra-tiny USB sticks (the ones that aren't much bigger than those Bluetooth dongles) and put it on this laptop rather than replacing the HDD
[11:55] <TJ-> dr_willis: do you trust it not to be a faked 4GB device with hacked firmware that misreports its size?
[11:56] <thomas001> Hi, powertop on my EeePC shows several "Bad" parameters (like "VM writeback timeout" or "SATA link power managment for /dev/sda")...where to change these settings permanently in ubuntu? i remember that you can write some pm-utils scripts to change them, but is there an easier way?
[11:56] <s3r3n1t7> luftikuss, so probably ... it was to large for php to handle. Is it an SQL file you're uploading? Why not do it via CLI?
[11:56] <dr_willis> TJ-:   kingston brand from walmart.. they had 100's of them in a big tub. ;)
[11:56] <TJ-> luftikuss: php often has a limit on the size of files it will accept, to prevent denials of service
[11:57] <TJ-> dr_willis: Nice! I had to deal with some fake Kingstons recently... the packaging had a big clue because they'd mispelt a URL with "kington"
[11:57] <digitalcrow> help me please i have tearing !! If i use compiz i dont have tearing but my pc is low-end
[11:57] <digitalcrow> Is there any way to fix tearing without enabling compiz ??
[11:57] <akem> digitalcrow, not really.
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> digitalcrow  usea lighter DE
[11:58] <dr_willis> enable the vsync option perhaps in ccsm or the drivers digitalcrow
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> use a*
[11:58] <digitalcrow> i tried lubuntu and i have tearing
[11:58] <digitalcrow> on ubuntu with full effects i dont have any tearing at all
[11:58] <luftikuss> s3r3n1t7, In the mean time I managed to perform this loading operation using a command-line command successfully. Yes ist is an SQL file, produced by mysqldump.
[11:58] <dr_willis> bbl
[11:59] <JasperCoenraats> theadmin: do you know i can remove the component lexmark.wsu.lagacy?
[11:59] <TrevMyster> Sorry, installation of this driver failed.  Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log?
[11:59] <luftikuss> TJ-, I see. Thank you for informing. I need now to find out what the maximum php file size is
[11:59] <TJ-> digitalcrow: I think that's because the Sync to Vsync is enabled. Not sure how you enable that without compiz but I bet there's a way, although it might depend on the video device and driver in use
[12:00] <TJ-> luftikuss: That will be set by the server administrator, you'd probably have to ask them
[12:00] <JasperCoenraats> any one?
[12:01] <digitalcrow> why i have tearing without compiz and i dont have tearing with compiz ??  its strange cause compositor is more demanding .
[12:01] <luftikuss> TJ-, I am the sole owner and operator of both computers. So I am the "administrator" at the same time. My handicap is that I am new to the subject here.
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> JasperCoenraats: wassup?
[12:02] <TJ-> JasperCoenraats: see if other lexmark packages are still installed. dpkg-query -l 'lexmark*'
[12:03] <JasperCoenraats> i try
[12:03] <TJ-> luftikuss: Yay! then you can edit the server's php.ini file and increase the limit. The values you need to set are "upload_max_filesize" "post_max_size" and "memory_limit"
[12:04] <JasperCoenraats> I guess thats for the terminal, and it didnot work
[12:04] <TJ-> luftikuss: Look at the section on post_max_size on the PHP docs: http://php.net/manual/en/ini.core.php
[12:05] <October82> one question, i have 8gb of ram, what version of ubuntu i should install? 32 or 64 bits
[12:06] <TJ-> JasperCoenraats: yes, we generally deal with terminal commands here
[12:06] <TJ-> October82: 64-bit amd64
[12:06] <October82> thank you TJ-
[12:06] <October82> what is the difference?
[12:07] <JasperCoenraats> TJ he didnot find anything, he says
[12:07] <October82> I mean if I'm going to notice difference
[12:07] <TJ-> JasperCoenraats: Then I think you need to log what files the installer finds that makes it think its already installed, and remove them
[12:09] <TJ-> JasperCoenraats: this forums post claims to have solved it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1822102
[12:09] <TJ-> October82: For one, it'll use all those 8GB of RAM, not just the first 3GB or so
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> October82: 64bit weill see your RAM as one block, if you use 32bit with PAE you will see all your RAM but each process will only have access to 3.2Gb RAM
[12:10] <TJ-> October82: The kernel and some user processes will be faster because the 64-bit CPU instruction set has many more internal registers
[12:10] <MonkeyDust> there should be a factoid about the difference between 32 and 64 bit
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> October82: also heavy CPU intensive tasks like video and audio convertions will be quicker
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: you can make one
[12:11] <Pici> MonkeyDust: write one, and we'll use it.
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> ah?
[12:11] <October82> oh that wonderfull, thank you very much TJ- and ActionParsnip
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: for example:   !beer is Beer is a tasty beverage
[12:12]  * RaTTuS|BIG Gives e-bree to for example: !beer is Beer is a tasty beverage
[12:13] <October82> downloading now
[12:13] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, It seems I am still stuck with this low resolution :-(
[12:14] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, I would love to know what needs to go in to a xorg.conf for my chipset
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Paddy_NI: I can give you mine if you like, it may help
[12:14] <ThinkT510> !xorgconf | Paddy_NI
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Paddy_NI: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1134153/
[12:15] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, cheers mate :-)
[12:15] <luftikuss> TJ-, I found the limits set of the first two parameters whch you have mentioned. Both are much lower than the size of my file to be uploaded. The memory  size given seems to be sufficient.  --  I need to go now for a schedule. --  I think I can continue afterwards alone using the valueable information you have given to me. --  Thank you very much for your help.
[12:16] <TJ-> luftikuss: As you have control of the server, why not save the hassle and use the terminal and use mysqlimport ?
[12:16] <mbutubuntu> hello folks, I've an HP pavilion dv7 with beats audio... trying to get the subwoofer working I've added a line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf (options snd-hda-intel model=ref). Now I've no audio by speakers and even if I commented that line and rebooted I've no audio!!! how is it possible? why restoring deaulf conf file doesn't make my speakers working?
[12:16] <s3r3n1t7> luftikuss, if you want to upload it via phpmyadmin, do note that it is not the general php file you should look into but the one used by the apache module, which (from memory) usually is set at something like 8mb
[12:16] <JasperCoenraats> TJ-: file doesnot exist
[12:17] <luftikuss> TJ- I will consider that. I am not yet familiar with mysqlimport.
[12:17] <mbutubuntu> what should I do? I'm sure I'll not able to use the subwoofer but it's very strange that now (even with the default conf file) I've no speakers..!!!
[12:17] <mbutubuntu> I'm seriously thinking that Ubuntu has some problems with configuration...
[12:17] <luftikuss> s3r3n1t7, Yes, I have found the value 8 MB.
[12:18] <JasperCoenraats> TJ-: so the terminal denies the extence of the files lexmark sees
[12:18] <luftikuss> s3r3n1t7, Thank you.
[12:18] <TJ-> mbutubuntu: I seem to recall something is written to a config cache file in the user directory... but its a long time since I messed with sound so things may have changed
[12:18] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, Sorry to torture but do I need a fully fleshed out xorg.conf or can I just put this in by itself? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1134161/
[12:18] <mbutubuntu> TJ-, so you think to a HOME-hosted conf file?
[12:19] <TJ-> JasperCoenraats: not as such... I think the packages are broken and don't clean up after themselves properly
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Paddy_NI: you'll need the full thing
[12:19] <JasperCoenraats> Yes, I guess so
[12:19] <Paddy_NI> ActionParsnip, ah then I'm lost :-/
[12:19] <TJ-> mbutubuntu: Let's think. You've changed the ALSA config but pulseaudio is the sound server, so some interaction has occured
[12:19] <Kingsy> I am having some problems with performance on ubuntu.. for example.. I could be extracting a 4.5GB rar file.. while this is happening the rest of the operating system is SOOO slow.. its virtually unusable.. why is this? I assumed the linux kernel was good at multitasking ?
[12:20] <JasperCoenraats> TJ-: I allready got that idea, but i really like to solve it properly
[12:20] <JasperCoenraats> TJ-: or do I have to reinstall linux?
[12:20] <TJ-> JasperCoenraats: Where did you get the packages from? Maybe I can download the same ones and check them out
[12:20] <mbutubuntu> TJ-, so what should I search for? a pulseaudio conf file in the $HOME ?
[12:21] <JasperCoenraats> www.lexmark.com TJ-
[12:21] <TJ-> mbutubuntu: Have you checked out this yet? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting/
[12:22] <s3r3n1t7> I'm having a small problem with creating a VPN connection. I've installed the appropriate modules for network-manager, it shows up when I click on add, but there is nothing I can chance. I've also noticed that the unlock buttons are always grey and not clickable. I can use sudo. I cannot run network-manager from CLI, it does not do anything.
[12:23] <TJ-> JasperCoenraats: I need to know the *exact* file(s) you downloaded
[12:23] <Treaver> Does anyone know how to get Minecraft to work in Linux. When I start it up, I login and BLACKSCREEN. I really want to fix this.
[12:23] <s3r3n1t7> Treaver, MC doesn't work with the default java packages. You'll need to install sun's java packages.
[12:23] <Treaver> can you tell me how s3
[12:24] <JasperCoenraats> lexmark-inkjet-legacy-wJRE-1.0-1.amd64.deb.sh
[12:24] <mbutubuntu> TJ-, could be useful to remove all files from $HOME/.pulse/ ?
[12:25] <mbutubuntu> TJ-, I've to say you that also at starting (gdm) I've no audio, in gdm there is no user logged in so it is more and more strange, do you?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: can you give the output of:
[12:25] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, of?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: starting (gdm) I've no audio, in gdm there is no user logg
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: stupid putty not pasting
[12:26] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, should I be root?
[12:26] <Outlander> teybannerman.com
[12:26] <Outlander> DAMN
[12:26] <JasperCoenraats> tj-: http://support.lexmark.com/index?page=product&userlocale=NL_NL&locale=nl&productCode=LEXMARK_IMPACT_S305&segment=SUPPORT&nonEFIGSLanguage=en#3
[12:26] <Outlander> sorrt
[12:26] <Outlander> sorry
[12:26] <JasperCoenraats> th 1st one
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: no, or it would be prefixed with sudo
[12:27] <Outlander> installed owncloud on 12.04, what do I need to enter into localhost/owncloud to get it up and running?
[12:28] <faki> "!lista"
[12:28] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, alsa-project.org has problems o.0 - I can't ping nor loading the webpage
[12:29] <mbutubuntu> is there any mirror for that script?
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: sure, I have it in my dropbox for when it goes screwy
[12:29] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, could you send me your copy?
[12:30] <UKWolfy> Hey!
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: wget
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[12:31] <UKWolfy> Quick queston, is it possible to change the colour of the status icons in ubuntu 12.04? (I mean the icons along the top right, battery indicator, sound, time etc)
[12:31] <compdoc> UKWolfy, theyre stil working on that kind of thing
[12:31] <UKWolfy> compdoc: ah okay, thanks, I would very much like them to be the android blue colour :)
[12:32] <UKWolfy> compdoc: any idea when it will be available for change?
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> UKWolfy: it should obey the theme you select
[12:33] <compdoc> UKWolfy, there are many tweaks not yet available, but that are just starting to be provided. Unity is too new yet
[12:33] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, alsa-info maybe is searching for updates and it hangs up because it can connect to the alsa-project.org host... o.0
[12:34] <mbutubuntu> I'm getting hungry!!!!
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: does the system have web access?
[12:34] <mbutubuntu> angry... ahahahah :-)
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: doesn't answer my question......
[12:34] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, yes, obviuos!! I'm also usins openDNS
[12:35] <UKWolfy> ActionParsnip: Ah I see, you wouldn't know if there are any themes that look the same as ambiance but with blue icons?
[12:35] <mbutubuntu> I can resolve alsa-project... I can't connect it
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: not obvious at all
[12:35] <mbutubuntu> (obvious for me :)
[12:35] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, I've reconfigured alsa-base and some other packages with aptitude
[12:36] <mbutubuntu> should I rebood or alsa force-reload is enough?
[12:36] <mbutubuntu> I've done it but it's still not working..!!!
[12:36] <monster> Does lubuntu have the GNU complier
[12:36] <monster> for C and C++ complier
[12:37] <mbutubuntu> Oh my god! I've only changed and reverted a conf file...!
[12:37] <monster> because in it's applications list it oesn't have it
[12:37] <mbutubuntu> It's not a Unix behaviour!
[12:38] <Pici> monster: the build-essential metapacakge should install everything you need to compile things.
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: will you quit with the pointless exclamation marks, they achieve nothing at all
[12:38] <monster> cheers
[12:38] <vagn_karlsson> Hello, does the copy-on-write feature of Btrfs mean that a file copy is always instantaneous?
[12:39] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, ok, this is because I'm angry. If you have any idea to solve this problem I'll be happy to follow your advices :-)
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: what, because of a sound issue? I think you need help
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: I'm geting the same issue so maybe the alsa servers are being maintained or having an issue
[12:39] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, it's not the sound issue itself....
[12:40] <multi_io> can you boot the kernel from a lwm+raid1 volume? does grub support that?
[12:40] <mbutubuntu> It's because I modified a conf file... restored to the original state but Ubuntu hasn't restored the audio.
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: did you run:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*   wait 10 seconds then reboot?
[12:43] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, I asked you some minutes ago if was useful to remove .pulse :-)
[12:43] <mbutubuntu> I do it now
[12:44] <odigity> ok, learning about the new Windows key - shortcut overlay feature in Unity has got my mind racing
[12:44] <odigity> it would be sweet if app did the same thing with a standard keyboard shortcut - brought up on overlay of keyboard shortcuts for that app
[12:45] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, I'm rebooting
[12:45] <odigity> and furthermore, it would be sweet to have a collection of standard-format cheat sheets that you could browse using native desktop keyboard shortcuts when programming, because there's so much shit you need to remember
[12:49] <usr13> obtxo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts
[12:49] <usr13> odigity:
[12:49] <usr13> (Sorry, wrong nick)
[12:50] <ahoneybun> usr13, in Ubuntu 12.04 you can just hold the super key
[12:50] <odigity> I've seen that document.  why are you linking to it?
[12:51] <usr13> odigity: I didn't know you hadn't seen it. You said "it would be sweet to have a collection of standard-format cheat sheets that you could browse"
[12:52] <muslim> hi
[12:52] <odigity> yes, I said that, but I don't see how that link relates to what I said.  I'm talking about a collection of cheat sheets for developers, not the ubuntu keyboard shortcuts
[12:52] <odigity> I mean something like this: http://cheat.errtheblog.com/
[12:52] <odigity> but available natively on your desktop via a keyboard shortcut, not as a web page
[12:52] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, nothing to do! :-(
[12:53] <cwesterfield> Anyone have a minute to help me compile libtorrent?
[12:53] <cwesterfield> I get this error "configure: error: Package requirements (libcrypto) were not met:"
[12:54] <usr13> odigity: Maybe I thought you'd use the infomation to create the desktop image of your dreams.
[12:55] <odigity> I wouldn't know where to begin
[12:55] <UKWolfy> just to be sure before i give up, there is no way to change the text and icons colour in the menu bar? (While keeping the rest the same as ambiance)
[12:55] <craigbass1976> I need libqt4-dev so I went hunting in the software center for it.  Never popped up with a few different searh terms I used, but  sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev worked fine.  I wonder how many other packages don't show up when I'm hunting.
[12:55] <end_guy> craigbass1976: apt-cache search libqt4-dev
[12:56] <craigbass1976> end_guy, I meant in the software center though.  I'll go in wondering if there might be any such and such, now I think that everything's not showing up; before I just figured it wasn't there.
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: you need that script to run
[12:57] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, headphones works
[12:57] <mbutubuntu> but speakers doesn't
[12:58] <end_guy> craigbass1976: Software center isn't good for what you're trying to do. If you really want a GUI that can accomplish that sort of thing try installing synaptic and using that.
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: tried: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure
[12:58] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, give me please again the url of the script
[12:58] <usr13> craigbass1976: What do you need libqt4-dev for?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> mtfk: its on that page too
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> mbutubuntu: step3
[13:00] <Sidewinder1> craigbass1976, +1 For Synaptic Package Manager; it used to be installed by default, on previous versions.
[13:01] <craigbass1976> usr13, Dust Racer 2D.  :)   This is hilarious.  I'm trying to think of the arcade game like this -- top down racer, used to have four steering wheels in the arcade
[13:02] <end_guy> craigbass1976: nice :-)
[13:03] <usr13> craigbass1976: But you can just use apt-get  sudo apt-get install libqt4-dev
[13:04] <mbutubuntu> ActionParsnip, problems with alsa-project host again
[13:04] <craigbass1976> usr13, I know, and I did.  I was just noticing that in the "hunting for a package" stage, it was not showing up in the Software Center.
[13:04] <usr13> oh ok
[13:09] <en1gma> is there a script that can generate a live cd iso of your currently running ubuntu hdd install?
[13:09] <agentgasmask> Hi all. I'm looking for a reliable greaphics card for use in an office workstation. It should be capable of deul-monitors (dvi or vga - my monitors are vga). Any suggestions?
[13:09] <agentgasmask> en1gma: remastersys
[13:09] <en1gma> agentgasmask have you used it?
[13:10] <agentgasmask> en1gma: I havn't had much luck with it, but that was a while ago (2 years)
[13:10] <ubuntuuser213123> is xubuntu actually lighter?
[13:10] <mbutubuntu> ubuntuuser213123, yes
[13:10] <ubuntuuser213123> the wikipedia pag used to say it's hard to tell the difference
[13:10] <mbutubuntu> xfce is lighter than gnome
[13:10] <ThinkT510> ubuntuuser213123: it can be yes
[13:11] <en1gma> i had tried one of those remaster scripts with bt5r2 about a couple months ago and it was pretty difficult but i got the job done but since then i have installed ubuntu and that script was a script and a guide
[13:12] <ubuntuuser213123> also does xubuntu have the same command tools as ubuntu?
[13:12] <ubuntuuser213123> yano cat, pipes, bash
[13:12] <jpds> ubuntuuser213123: Yes, exactly the same base.
[13:12] <en1gma> was hoping for a one click solution to spit out a cust ISO (for a live cd) option
[13:12] <ubuntuuser213123> awesome, I feel a bit embarrassed using it after coming from gentoo
[13:12] <jpds> ubuntuuser213123: Different desktop environment.
[13:13] <ubuntuuser213123> it's just I was always concentraing on configuring gentoo it wasted my time
[13:13] <ubuntuuser213123> so I thought xubuntu should be the one for me
[13:13] <ubuntuuser213123> THis system has 6GB ram
[13:15] <lattera> is there any way to migrate an ext4 fs to btrfs while mounted?
[13:16] <ThinkT510> lattera: no
[13:16] <romy420> i want ti have a dark themefor gnome3 in 12.04. when i install/copy themes in ~/.themes it only shows up as a window theme. i'm a bit confused about which type of theme i would have to download to just a working dark theme for gnome. how can i do that?
[13:16] <romy420> just have a*
[13:16] <spirit3_> Afternoon all - anyone here work for Canonical in London?
[13:17] <ThinkT510> spirit3_: why do you ask?
[13:23] <s3r3n1t7> lattera, the main problem with live migration is changing data. How are you going to add that data to a new filesystem while also keeping it in sync with the old one? It just can't be done. Best you can do is a freeze on the current FS which will allow read but refuse writes, then copy it over, remount new one over old one and continue. Do note, that depending on the amount of data there will be a long time of freeze where no new data can be wr
[13:23] <s3r3n1t7> itten.
[13:24] <lattera> not sure how sun did it, but they did live migration for zfs
[13:24] <lattera> ufs->zfs
[13:24] <s3r3n1t7> lattera, initial googling shows that ZFS is an upgrade of UFS, so they only added a few things to it. They didn't touch the data.
[13:26] <kristenbb> How does opennebula work to distribute the work across multiple nodes? Is it possible to have different threads of the same VM being executed in different physical machines?
[13:27] <savio> i think not
[13:27] <akls> how can I configure 3 finger tap in ubuntu to open terminal?
[13:28] <lattera> s3r3n1t7: zfs isn't an upgrade of ufs... it's a completely new fs
[13:28] <akls> I can enable 3 finger tap to do a middle click in synaptics, but what about opening a terminal?
[13:28] <lattera> it's where btrfs got its inspiration
[13:28] <gry> hi, sudo broke after updating to 12.04, http://pastebin.mozilla.org/1742626, is this a known issue? thanks
[13:28] <Pici> kristenbb: You'r probably be better off asking in #opennebula
[13:34] <veiliance> hey guys
[13:34] <veiliance> what version of wine does ubuntu 12.04 support?
[13:35] <veiliance> any1 here?
[13:35] <gry> yes
[13:35] <DJones> veiliance: Its 1.4
[13:35] <steveire> Hi. When I plug in my external usb drive, it seems to not give me any permissions on the user level. root owns everything.
[13:36] <veiliance> sudo nautilus
[13:36] <DJones> !gksudo | veiliance
[13:36] <steveire> I looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions#Per-User_Mounts and ran '/usr/bin/udisks --mount /dev/sdb1' manually with the same result
[13:36] <veiliance> steveire nautilus is your solution :P
[13:36] <steveire> I don't think so.
[13:37] <veiliance> xD
[13:37] <steveire> I'm using kubuntu
[13:37] <steveire> Both use udisks
[13:37] <steveire> Riddell: Any idea?
[13:38] <savio> hey guys i want to contribut for ubuntu
[13:39] <savio> what should i do first
[13:39] <akls> savio, which way?
[13:39] <smartboyhw> I'm helping savio.
[13:39] <smartboyhw> I actually recommended him here.
[13:40] <savio> i'm interested in security/testing
[13:40] <akls> savio, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[13:40] <smartboyhw> I gave him that link
[13:40] <akls> :)
[13:43] <savio> reading it
[13:43] <Sidewinder1> savio, You may wish to have a look here: http://www.backtrack-linux.org/
[13:43] <nabil_> hi guys
[13:43] <savio> Sidewinder1: i'm using it
[13:43] <nabil_> someone can tell me how to launch an app from terminal?
[13:43] <nabil_> what command should I use
[13:43] <savio> type the name
[13:43] <nabil_> just the name??
[13:43] <savio> i don't know
[13:44] <savio> use apropos
[13:44] <nabil_> ??
[13:44] <nabil_> what is apropos
[13:44] <savio> "apropos"  is command
[13:44] <nabil_> I am a newbie
[13:44] <compdoc> nabil_, the name if you want to run it normally, or use sudo if you want to run as admin
[13:44] <spirit3_> nabil_: to launch (for example) firefox, just type firefox
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> nabil_  type nautilus&
[13:44] <savio> provide apropriate command to search string
[13:45] <geekbri> I've installed Ubuntu 12.04 on my Lenovo Thinkpad T420s and there is a really weird screen flickering that occurs.  If I turn the brightness down it seems to go away.  Anybody have an idea why this is happening or how to stop it?
[13:45] <akls> nabil_, maybe you should consider using nohup to make applications stay when you close your terminal
[13:46] <sdimkov> I have troubles getting pidgin-sipe to work with Empathy.. It just keeps connecting with no result
[13:46] <nabil_> cant launch the
[13:46] <nabil_> app
[13:46] <nabil_> in the software center it says it is installed
[13:47] <nabil_> but doesn't show up anywhere
[13:47] <ThinkT510> nabil_: what are you trying to launch?
[13:47] <nabil_> can't find it in dash
[13:47] <nabil_> snespurify
[13:47] <compdoc> nabil_, what app?
[13:47] <smartboyhw> Guys, I used apt-get to get Chromium, where can I find it?
[13:47] <nabil_> to convert games
[13:47] <smartboyhw> !support | smartboyhw
[13:47] <Saiki> is there any way to install tomcat 5.5 on 12.04?
[13:48] <alankila> Saiki: wasn't it tomcat55 package
[13:48] <gsr> nabil_:  whats the name of the app in software center?
[13:48] <nabil_> snespurify
[13:48] <smartboyhw> ubottu's PM is no use.
[13:48] <compdoc> try SNESPurify
[13:48] <alankila> apologies, it doesn't seem to be available anymore
[13:48] <Saiki> alankila: tried tomcat5.5 gives me a regex output and 5 isn't there
[13:48] <smartboyhw> Waiting for answers...
[13:49] <ThinkT510> smartboyhw: chromium is the game, chromium-browser is the browser
[13:49] <smartboyhw> chromium-browser.
[13:49] <nabil_> command not found
[13:49] <compdoc> smartboyhw, under internet apps?
[13:49] <ThinkT510> smartboyhw: in unity press the super key and start to type chromium
[13:49] <smartboyhw> thanks, THinkT510.
[13:49] <nabil_> is there a way I can launch the app straight from the software center
[13:50] <ThinkT510> smartboyhw: super key = windows logo
[13:50] <gsr> nabil_: the vast majority of programs you install from the software enter will put the 'app' ( or at least the launcher executable) in /usr/bin.  try entering the command (without the quotes) "ls /usr/bin/*nes*"
[13:50] <smartboyhw> ThinkT510: I know the super key part, don't worry.
[13:50] <alexey_knyshev> TJ-: a u there?
[13:51] <nabil_> gsr: it says /usr/bin/wineserver in green
[13:53] <nabil_> no way to launch it directly from software center??
[13:53] <gsr> nabil_ try "whereis bsnes"
[13:54] <nabil_> gsr: bsnes: /usr/games/bsnes /usr/share/man/man6/bsnes.6.gz
[13:54] <usr13> sofrware center is for installing applications, not launching them.
[13:55] <nabil_> what should I do?
[13:56] <gsr> nabil_: bsnes is the executable for snespurify.
[13:56] <Saiki> ok, so tomcat5 is in drapper drake, is there anywhere I can get the debs at?
[13:57] <gsr> so to use SNESPurify, use the command "bsnes".
[13:57] <nabil_> gsr: so what to do next??
[13:57] <MonkeyDust> !patience| smartboyhw
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> smartboyhw  apologies, my screen was lagging
[13:58] <nabil_> gsr: usually they are two separate apps
[13:58] <nabil_> when I launch bsnes I can't find snespurify
[13:59] <garikaib> hi
[14:03] <geekbri> Anybody here using a Lenovo thinkpad 420 and ubuntu 12.04? I am getting some really weird flickering that random comes and goes.  Wondering if anybody would have tips as to what causes it or how to stop it
[14:04] <Saiki> !dpkg
[14:05] <Lost_Cause> geekbri: i have one.  what are you using for your graphics card?
[14:05] <Lost_Cause> and what drivers are you using
[14:05] <Saiki> how do you install a .deb file on a server?
[14:06] <lousygarua> Saiki, i think that something like `dpkg -i baboon.dev`
[14:06] <lousygarua> Saiki, check the `dpkg` command I guess
[14:06] <geekbri> Lost_Cause: Just installed ubuntu 12.04 fresh.
[14:07] <gsr> nabil_: type 'man bsnes' for the manual.  but yeah, I don't see snespurify either.  apparently it comes bundled with bsnes, but I don't know how where it is. google should help
[14:07] <Saiki> lousygarua: been a while since I tried, that's all
[14:08] <usr13> Saiki: You should use the package manager.
[14:08] <usr13> Saiki: sudo apt-get install <package-name>
[14:08] <Koppis> Hey #ubuntu, is there a command that I can use to change the volume of the program currently in focus?
[14:09] <Lost_Cause> check at your bios for which graphics card you have turned on.  there are a few options to choose from depending on some options that you can get for the t420.  Mine had a nvidia graphics card.  I turned that on and used the nvidia drivers from their website.  i fixed most of my issues
[14:09] <usr13> Koppis: Volume control us normally done globally.
[14:09] <geekbri> Lost_Cause: Cool, I may have to try that.  Are you using multiple monitors with it by any chance?
[14:09] <Saiki> usr13: I need an older version not supplied in apt-get
[14:10] <geekbri> Lost_Cause: I suspect this is using the built in intel chip at the moment as I have not done anything to it yet.
[14:10] <usr13> Saiki: of ____________?
[14:10] <Saiki> I need tomcat5
[14:11] <nabil_> gsr: weird, the only tying i found in manual is snespurify-gtk
[14:11] <Saiki> usr13: tomcat 5.5.xx (5.5.28 is prefered)
[14:11] <Lost_Cause> ocassially.  if you use the drivers from nvidia then you have to use x server to set them up.  i have found it to be rather shakey though in terms of it working fully.  but on a clean install you should be fine
[14:11] <nabil_> gsr: when I tried it it went to downloading bsnes again
[14:11] <nabil_> then, nothing
[14:11] <nabil_> still can't find it
[14:11] <nabil_> weiiird!!!
[14:12] <Lost_Cause> geekbri: ya by default it is set up to use optimous or what/ever it is called which doesn't work fully in ubuntu
[14:12] <Saiki> urs13: the webapp I want to use doesn't work on tomcat6
[14:12] <usr13> Saiki: What webapp?
[14:13] <Saiki> usr13: it's for server controll. called iweb
[14:13] <geekbri> Lost_Cause: Yeah I just went into the bios.  It says it is using the Nvidia card.  Is that what you said you were doing?  Just using the binary drivers they provide on their website?
[14:14] <Lost_Cause> geekbri: ya that is what i do.
[14:14] <usr13> Saiki: Does it error out?
[14:14] <Saiki> usr13: yes
[14:14] <geekbri> Lost_Cause: I'll give that a shot, thanks for the help
[14:14] <usr13> Saiki: Can you give exact error message?
[14:15] <Saiki> usr13: and no one I know knows how to fix it, and they've tried ALOT
[14:15] <Saiki> usr13: sure can, sec
[14:15] <usr13> Saiki: Are you  Ubuntu 12.04?
[14:15] <marlym> how do i know which programs are using internet connection?
[14:16] <Saiki> usr13: http://pastebin.com/r197qfqR
[14:16] <The_BROS> what is the best download manager for ubuntu?
[14:16] <Saiki> yes
[14:16] <ThinkT510> !best | The_BROS
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> The_BROS  try gwget
[14:16] <The_BROS> !best | The_BROS
[14:16] <Lost_Cause> geekbri: hopefully it should work.  just remember to use twinview for multiple monitors
[14:17] <geekbri> Lost_Cause: I was going to try to get 2 external monitors setup, one from the VGA port and one from the display port, I am not sure if that will work at all though :X
[14:17] <geekbri> Lost_Cause: thanks i'll look into twinview
[14:18] <usr13> Saiki: Line 3 says "...iweb.xml (Permission denied)"
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> The_BROS  it's pwget
[14:18] <Lost_Cause> geekbri: i haven't tried that yet i usaully just use the laptop screen and a monitor via vga
[14:18] <Saiki> usr13: chmodded to 777
[14:18] <geekbri> Lost_Cause: Yeah that is what I was doing, but we have some new employees coming and I was hoping to get it working with a second external.  Perhaps I'll leave that up to them to figure out :)
[14:18] <marlym> how do i know which programs are using internet connection?
[14:19] <smartboyhw> marlym: What do you mean?
[14:19] <usr13> "SEVERE: Error deploying web application directory iweb"
[14:20] <Lost_Cause> geekbri: for new employees i like leaving them with all the hardware and hanna montana linux on their box.
[14:20] <RedViper> Hello
[14:20] <Saiki> usr13: I'm aware of that..  nothing I tried could deploy it
[14:21] <caixa> how can i tweak powermizer settings its lagging compiz
[14:22] <geekbri> Lost_Cause: Oh there is a Hanna Montana linux?  Well it looks like we have just discovered the "standard linux" distro for our company
[14:22] <marlym> smartboyhw: i want to see which program uses internet most
[14:22] <keeb> i can't seem to get audio working as a non-root user. has anyone ever had this problem?
[14:23] <Lost_Cause> geekbri: http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/downloads.html
[14:23] <ThinkT510> keeb: alsamixer to the rescue
[14:23] <compdoc> keeb, no, but have to checked which groups root belongs to?
[14:23] <compdoc> to=you
[14:23] <geekbri> OH perfect!
[14:23] <ssnf> hello, is anyone using "awesome" windows manager? i need help with it
[14:24] <TheM4ch1n3> ssnf: what is windows manager ?
[14:24] <RedViper> I have a problem with Rhythmbox, I uninstalled it because at the time I was using Banshee and now when I tried to reinstall it this is the error that has come up: Requires installation of untrusted packages The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources. And it wont install when I click ok. Could I use the terminal?
[14:24] <TheM4ch1n3> ssnf: oh, awesome WM
[14:24] <keeb> ssnf: i am using awesomewm
[14:24] <usr13> Saiki: dpkg -i reconfigure tomcat6
[14:24] <geekbri> Lost_Cause: Yikes, seems like following these directions http://www.techlw.com/2012/03/install-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu-1204.html made my Thinkpad T420s show just a big white bar on the right side of my screen and everything else is black
[14:24] <keeb> ThinkT510: alsamixer shows everything turned on, and looks exactly the same for my normal user as it does for root
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> RedViper: can you give a pastebin of the output of:  sudo apt-get update
[14:25] <ThinkT510> keeb: no MM's?
[14:25] <keeb> compdoc: root belongs to "audio" while my user does not, but i've read that this doesn't help things
[14:25] <keeb> ThinkT510: correct
[14:25] <Aitor> :l
[14:25] <keeb> compdoc: besides, i've added my user to the audio group and it didn't help
[14:25] <RedViper> ActionParsnip: Give me a moment..
[14:25] <TheM4ch1n3> geekbri: and nVidia's FTP site has Thumbs.db files laying around ;)
[14:25] <compdoc> keeb, never know until you try. but once you add a group, you have to log out to take effect