[01:38] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: that figures
[01:39] <OvenWerks> I do not remember changing that to add user
[03:06] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: Yeah, it might have been that for legacy reasons, but it seems as though usermod is the way to go.
[05:12] <OvenWerks> If it works put it in.
[05:13] <OvenWerks> Not sure what to do about the other though
[05:14] <OvenWerks> Let me know when you have done the user thing and then I will fix the extra tab.
[05:14] <OvenWerks> (branch and delete I guess)
[16:20] <Eickmeyer[m]> OvenWerks: I did it last night and uploaded to the archive as well as a point release. No reason not to, but go ahead and do the fix if you haven't already and the release will be 1.12.2 at that point.
[16:35] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m]: it should be done... not sure what to do with the changelog so I left that. Maybe test it first. works here but I don't have plasma installed right now.
[16:36] <Eickmeyer[m]> Ok, will do.


[08:51] <praisethemoon> Good morning
[08:58] <davlefou> Bonjour, raz le bol! Je vais me recoucher!
[09:12] <praisethemoon> i don't blame you, it's monday x)
[09:13] <praisethemoon> elacheche, must be feeling really good :P
[09:14] <elacheche> Yeah, pretty good, espacially because I decided to not bring my huge coffee mug today to be prepared for Ramadhan.. Imagine my "happy" face..
[09:15] <praisethemoon> ahahaha
[09:15] <praisethemoon> X)
[09:16] <praisethemoon> yeah, ramadhan is this week
[09:16] <praisethemoon> that's a good start elacheche
[09:16] <praisethemoon> :3
[09:17] <elacheche> x(
[09:18] <praisethemoon> take it easy bro
[09:18] <praisethemoon> just focus on something else
[09:21] <elacheche> Yep, am focusing on co-owrkers faults x(
[09:22] <davlefou> Finalement, tout commence bien...
[09:24] <praisethemoon> elacheche, uhhhm; that's good x)
[09:24] <praisethemoon> elacheche, i heard your brother is a good programmer
[09:24] <praisethemoon> does he comes here often?
[09:25] <elacheche> Some times..
[09:26] <praisethemoon> he's not a FOSS fan? x)
[09:27] <elacheche> He's! An official ubuntu member too.. He was there during SFD, you just too shy that you didn't had multiple discussions with awesome people duirng SFD ;)
[09:29] <praisethemoon> oh i sure must have missed a lot
[09:29] <praisethemoon> hit me when he comes
[09:29] <elacheche> K!
[09:30] <praisethemoon> <3
[09:30] <Dro> hello ubuntu, hello tn! :D
[09:30] <praisethemoon> KTHNXBYE
[09:30] <praisethemoon> Hello Dro
[09:30] <Dro> praisethemoon, are u going to continue praising the moon even in ramadan? :D
[09:31] <elacheche> Next SFD you'll get rid of that! Everyone knows at least an other one in there, you know at least 3 people in there, so you should be able to crash into their conversations with others and make new contacts ;)
[09:31] <elacheche> Yo Dro
[09:31] <Dro> hello mister elacheche ! :D
[09:32] <elacheche> Hello dear sir
[09:33] <praisethemoon> Dro, ramadan is all about the moon bro
[09:33] <praisethemoon> that's how we know it begins
[09:33] <praisethemoon> and ends
[09:33] <praisethemoon> praise does not mean worship
[09:34] <praisethemoon> the moon is lovely wonderful, see? I just praised it :P
[09:34] <praisethemoon> \o/
[09:36] <crack3r> the moon is a piece of swiss cheese in the sky AFAIK
[09:36] <crack3r> also bonjour tout le monde
[09:37] <elacheche> Mornign crack3r :)
[09:38] <elacheche> praisethemoon: if my memory is good, crack3r is one of the people you had a conversation with during sfd ;)
[09:38] <praisethemoon> uhhm did I?
[09:38] <praisethemoon> crack3r, how is it going?
[09:39] <praisethemoon> I'm that guy from SFD remember me?
[09:39]  * praisethemoon chuckles
[09:40] <crack3r> I've seen so many faces that day, can't really tell which one are you haha
[09:40] <praisethemoon> that's the point ^^
[09:41] <crack3r> anyways, it's going well :)
[09:41] <crack3r> so elacheche, when's the next event?
[09:41] <elacheche> I was so embaressed that day, didn't saw crack3r for years, and when he said hi, I was like, I know this face.. Common brain, give me a hint !!! x) x(
[09:41] <crack3r> so we could all meet
[09:42] <crack3r> haha it's alright, I am not as famous as you that's why
[09:42] <elacheche> I hope it'll be during the next SFD crack3r.. I don't have plans before that event.. Have many things to work on, I hope that'll be free after Ramadhan to be able to do some micro events :
[09:42] <elacheche> :/
[09:43] <elacheche> I'm not famous too :p But I have a really bad memory.. I know faces, I usually don't remember names.. But you! We met before! multiple times!  Mais j'ai plus ou moins arrêté.
[14:28] <Dro> hmmm ok
[14:28] <davlefou> J'ai pas mal développé en D7, pas trop en D8.
[14:28] <davlefou> C'est le bordel avec le D8.
[14:29] <davlefou> Que fais tu sous Drupal?
[14:29] <Dro> davlefou, everything :p
[14:30] <Dro> drupal c semblable à un framework, on peut tt faire avec :D
[14:30] <davlefou> Je garde un mauvais souvenir de D7 et pour D8, je le trouve pas trop top.
[14:31] <davlefou> Je préfére largement Django par exemple.
[14:31] <Dro> hummm ok
[14:35] <Dro> hmm pythong guy! :P
[14:35] <Dro> I never worked with Django before
[14:36] <Dro> maybe I'll try it someday... seems interesting
[14:39] <davlefou> Pour moi, deux probléme avec Drupal:
[14:39] <davlefou> 1- C'est une usine a gaz.
[14:40] <davlefou> 2- Je trouve que le code et la communauté est moyen!
[14:42] <Dro> hmm par contre Drupal est le CMS le plus utilisé je pense... :p
[14:49] <praisethemoon> i'm the guy who makes his own stuff
[14:49]  * praisethemoon puts sunglasses ON
[14:54] <davlefou> Dro, le plus utilisé est Wordpress et il est totalement nul!
[14:54] <davlefou> Dro, Dans la zone entre amateur et pro, Drupal est pas mal non plus!
[14:55] <Dro> praisethemoon, lol
[14:55] <Dro> en tt cas il facilite les choses pour moi :P
[14:56] <davlefou> Dro, s'il te conviens, c'est très bien!
[19:00] <praisethemoon> sorry, forgot i was logged in from my laptop already x)
[19:00] <praisethemoon> how is every one doing?
[19:01] <praisethemoon> fwhcat: o/
[19:11] <fwhcat> hey praisethemoon
[19:12] <praisethemoon> how is it going fwhcat
[19:14] <fwhcat> fine


[05:37] <The_LoudSpeaker> Hey everyone! I see 5.8 kernel for raspberry Pi is in groovy-proposed. Any idea when it will shift to groovy-main?
[06:14] <The_LoudSpeaker> ^ apw
[06:14] <The_LoudSpeaker> (tagging you coz I see you as the last uploader)
[07:57] <apw> The_LoudSpeaker, i was the last sponsor not the uploader; that was juergh ... but my understanding that the kernel is testing with a view to it moving as soon as it has passed that testing
[08:03] <juergh> @The_LoudSpeaker, yes. as apw mentioned. a couple of tests are still running so hopefully anytime soon.
[08:18] <The_LoudSpeaker> Nice.
[08:18] <The_LoudSpeaker> Just let me know here once it's done.
[11:21] <The_LoudSpeaker> juergh: Is MPTCP enabled on this 5.8 kernel?
[11:22] <The_LoudSpeaker> I see it enabled in /lib/modules/5.8.0-1002-raspi/build/.config but doing a curl http://multipath-tcp.org/ says I don't have it enabled
[11:23] <The_LoudSpeaker> cc: apw
[11:23] <The_LoudSpeaker> any help to get MPTCP running on rpi4 would we awesome. :)
[11:54] <juergh> The_LoudSpeaker, ubuntu@rpi-4b-rev1d4-d9f5:~$ uname -a
[11:54] <juergh> Linux rpi-4b-rev1d4-d9f5 5.8.0-1002-raspi #5-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Thu Sep 3 12:40:07 UTC 2020 aarch64 aarch64 aarch64 GNU/Linux
[11:54] <juergh> ubuntu@rpi-4b-rev1d4-d9f5:~$ cat  /proc/sys/net/mptcp/enabled
[11:54] <juergh> 1
[11:54] <juergh> that's the default
[11:57] <The_LoudSpeaker> yes same in mys system.
[11:58] <The_LoudSpeaker> but see this:
[11:58] <The_LoudSpeaker> ubuntu@raspberrypi:~$ curl http://multipath-tcp.org/
[11:58] <The_LoudSpeaker> Nay, Nay, Nay, your have an old computer that does not speak MPTCP. Shame on you!
[11:58] <The_LoudSpeaker> ubuntu@raspberrypi:~$
[11:58] <The_LoudSpeaker> ^ juergh
[12:07] <The_LoudSpeaker> ah wait
[12:07] <The_LoudSpeaker> maybe I forgot something else.
[12:07] <The_LoudSpeaker> configuring routing.
[12:07] <The_LoudSpeaker> 😅
[14:07] <The_LoudSpeaker> I talked with mptcp upstream and turnsout that http://multipath-tcp.org/ uses the out of the tree implementation while 5.8 already has mptcp in the tree. so it will always return that my system does not have mptcp.
[14:08] <The_LoudSpeaker> thanks for trying to help and bearing with the noise everyone!
[14:08] <The_LoudSpeaker> juergh: just let me know when 5.8 is out of proposed so that I can then proceed to install it on production systems.


[04:32] <michaelmudd_> .
[06:59] <mibnotsupported> Hi all, is 18.04 20180424 ok to use right now?
[06:59] <mibnotsupported> Will I easily be able to update it out of RC in two days
[07:03] <hateball> mibnotsupported: if you're already on 18.04 you will just update as normal
[07:09] <mibnotsupported> Ah ok, so no need to change sources of some unstable channel in a bit?
[07:10] <hateball> mibnotsupported: nope
[07:10] <mibnotsupported> Great, thanks! Gonna go throw it on in that other partition
[08:00] <katnip> is there a +1 channel for kubuntu 18.04?
[08:11] <acheronuk> katnip: not officially, apart from #ubuntu+1
[08:14] <katnip> ok
[08:15] <acheronuk> I think at this stage, lines are blurred as to what goes where
[08:56] <mibbitnotsupport> lmfao just managed to pull that rc image of kubuntu 18 amd64
[08:57] <mibbitnotsupport> and just found that oem install didn't passed but with bug. installation works but computer won't reboot itself. something about microcode
[08:57] <mibbitnotsupport> i have a haswell i5 and just got the end of 2016 bios patch with IME fix
[08:57] <mibbitnotsupport> wonder if it'll do the trick...
[09:06] <blueduck> hi guys, just wanted to congratulate and thank you guys for the work you did in 18.04, its the best release yet.
[09:15] <acheronuk> blueduck: good to hear. thanks
[09:34] <user|8803> What about kubuntu 18? Can I have a manual of it?
[09:54] <katnip> what is shim signed and does it require a reboot?
[10:09] <hateball> katnip: sounds like you have installed the nvidia driver?
[10:22] <katnip> no
[10:22] <katnip> no nvidia
[10:22] <katnip> laptop with amd/intel
[10:23] <katnip> if it doesnt require a reboot that is fine with me :)
[10:23] <katnip> it installed as an update alone
[10:25] <mibbitnotsupport> yup. kubuntu apr 24 daily failing from bootable usb
[10:25] <mibbitnotsupport> update microcode
[10:25] <mibbitnotsupport> amd64 image
[10:26] <mibbitnotsupport> cpu is i5 4210u i think
[10:26] <mibbitnotsupport> haswell
[10:26] <mibbitnotsupport> if that's even the right microcode i'm talking about, hell if i know
[10:36] <mibbitnotsupport> I don't get this... my GRUB install is the beta one commonly used prior to this
[10:36] <mibbitnotsupport> I updated my bios to latest, which probably has some spectre/meltdown workarounds
[10:37] <mibbitnotsupport> But that old grub still works. Meanwhile this image won't even show me the grub menu fml :/
[11:08] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:14] <mibbitnotsupport> Hi. So anyone was able to install the latest ubuntu snapshot on a physical machine running an intel cpu?
[11:15] <mibbitnotsupport> All bug reports talk about failure to reboot. Mine doesn't even show me the grub options
[11:17] <BluesKaj> mibbitnotsupport, what does it show ?
[11:17] <mibbitnotsupport> I think it's this, prior to even showing me the grub options:
[11:18] <mibbitnotsupport> TSC_DEADLINE disabled due to Errata: please update microcode to version: 0x20 (or later)
[11:18] <mibbitnotsupport> Then hangs in a black screen eventually
[11:22] <BluesKaj> mibbitnotsupport, if you can get to a tty, ctl+alt+F2-F6, then this will probly solve your problem, https://askubuntu.com/questions/984970/firmware-bug-tsc-deadline-disabled-due-to-errata-what-should-i-do-about-thi
[11:24] <mibbitnotsupport> Yes, I'll try that, but not sure: didn't look like I had any options. Will I even have apt-get, sudo, etc available at that point? It's just the syslinux
[11:24] <BluesKaj> once you have a ttty/vt prompt just run, sudo apt-get install intel-microcode
[11:25] <mibbitnotsupport> Alright, I'll brb. Gonna try it. The host machine is this one unfortunately
[11:26] <BluesKaj> ok
[11:42] <neyder> good morning, gentile people
[11:43] <neyder> trough years, i have many HDD with my home, so how can i merge and sync those $HOME into current main system?
[11:43] <neyder> i mean how to compare two dirs, find duplicate files and syn all to one
[11:44] <BluesKaj> !rsync
[11:44] <BluesKaj> neyder,^
[11:45] <neyder> ty BluesKaj, i knew to sync, but duplicate files in $/HOME/f/o/o and $home/bar
[11:46] <BluesKaj> my understanding is rsync avoids duplication if the correct options are used
[11:57] <neyder> BluesKaj: will read
[11:57] <neyder> ty
[11:59] <BluesKaj> ok
[12:45] <bodhistars> hello world
[12:45] <bodhistars> testing
[12:46] <acheronuk> it worked
[12:46] <bodhistars> nice
[12:46] <bodhistars> fresh new kubunto on my rig
[12:46] <bodhistars> kubuntu
[12:48] <BluesKaj> right, allworking well, bodhistars/
[12:48] <BluesKaj> ?
[12:48] <bodhistars> had some problems in uefi
[12:49] <bodhistars> and flikering screen on nvidia \
[12:49] <bodhistars> all done now
[12:50] <BluesKaj> yeah, UEFIs a pain I'm lucky to avoid with my hybrid BIOS
[12:50] <bodhistars> u are lucky
[12:51] <BluesKaj> MSI Z370 Pro motherboard ..cool design
[12:53] <acheronuk> 'all done now' means what? fixed?
[12:53] <bodhistars> well flikering in dual screen /
[13:01] <BluesKaj> bodhistars, have you run the Driver Manager in System settings to find the recommended driver for your nvidia gpu?
[15:27] <neyder> how to check which graphic server i'm running?
[15:28] <neyder> bionic running
[15:32] <acheronuk> inxi -G
[19:20] <curryflower> kubuntu support!
[19:20] <curryflower> yay!
[19:37] <curryflower> dpkg query: package 'bcmwl-kernel source' is not installed and no information is available
[19:39] <curryflower> "sudo modprobe wl"      returns: modprobe: FATAL: Module wl not found in directory..... apologies, not really sure where to start with this question.. but it seems that some packages are missing... i tried installing the bcmwl from the live usb but it says dependencies not met
[19:40] <curryflower> and a few other things I noticedso basically, no internet connection on the laptop.. unable to sudo apt update with errors like "temporary failure resolving us.archive..." "security.ubuntu.com" etc
[19:42] <curryflower> dkms is not installed, and after sudo apt install dkms the error returns "unable to locate package dkms"
[19:53] <valorie> curryflower: can you hook up the laptop with a cable or so?
[19:53] <curryflower> sadly, I cannot. Luckily, I have an additional laptop.
[19:53] <valorie> kubuntu isn't made to be installed without access to the internet
[19:53] <curryflower> I do have access to the internet
[19:53] <valorie> how about using a phone and sharing internet with it that way?
[19:54] <curryflower> The problem is that laptop I've just installed Kubuntu on cannot access the internet
[19:55] <curryflower> It's only allowing for wired connection
[20:04] <curryflower> I can install the packages manually from the USB, and I've located most of the necessary ones... but some have to be manually extracted and i'm not sure where to place them
[20:06] <katnip> kubuntu #1
[20:08] <genii> We tend to agree
[20:28] <jejones3141> I have updated two computers to 18.04 final beta, and for some reason I am presented with a graphic keyboard when I log in. Before, there was just a button that I believe presented it as an option. Neither computer has a touchscreen, and I would like to not have to make the graphic keyboard go away. Where is this configured?


[12:18] <BluesKaj> Hi all
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[14:10] <Guest69805> Hello, I just changed my global theme from "kubuntu" to "breeze dark". Now my application launcher changed from kubuntu to kde symbol. I know how to change the application launcher symbol in general, but not where to find this particular one. Can somebody help me to use breeze dark with the kubuntu symbol? I made a screenshot describing my problem further: https://i.imgur.com/km9HUug.png
[14:55] <user|27753> i wonder if kubuntu has duall boot
[15:11] <mparillo> Kubuntu can dual boot with MS-Windows (more complicated), other Linux distros (slightly complicated for arch-based distros), other *buntus, or two different releases of Kubuntu.
[15:20] <Guest69805> most ubuntu installers I've yet encountered (ubiquity/calamares) automatically install grub in a fashion that you've got a multi boot system without further necessary actions at all
 @Guest69805, Yes
[23:03] <keithzg-M> To be clear, not actually sure it's done at such a low level, all I know is Wayland displays upside-down, and if I use GDM3 as my DM then at the DM it switches orientation if I tilt my laptop around; it just remains opposite of what it should be
[23:06] <keithzg-M> Oh hey, at least removing the Synaptics driver and/or vastly simplifying my Grub line got my trackpad working again. Finally some progress on getting 20.04 running right on this Pixelbook!
[23:09] <keithzg-M> Oh snap, spoke too soon, cursor vanishes as soon as I log into Plasma from GDM3.
[23:12] <keithzg-M> A very awkward set of keyboard commands later (made more awkward by the new System Settings app not always visually indicating a keyboard-selected item) and I have my screen flipped and the mouse is back? Damn, 20.04 is usable again for me on this laptop! :)


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[01:21] <okasa> im having a problem with the java JRE where it displays all text in a kind of double-spaced format...i have a picture of the problem here: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=r9nyn6&s=4
[02:39] <okasa> what jre does everyone use in ubuntu?  there are a lot in the package manager
[11:49] <ma10> some bug reports i'm getting suggest that the java upgrade hardy->intrepid is somewhat broken. It seems many users are getting gcj as the default java despite having sun jre installed before. Does someone have some info on this?
[11:59] <slytherin> ma10: how come gcj is default if it is not installed?
[11:59] <slytherin> ma10: any bug report for reference?
[12:00] <ma10> slytherin: it was probably installed. many java packages recommend their -gcj part which depends on gcj. i have to be careful myself to avoid pulling it in..
[12:02] <ma10> this for example Bug #293491
[12:02] <slytherin> ma10: I am not sure what is the priority of the java alternatives provided by Sun JDK/JRE. It is possible that if the priority is lower than the ones provided by GCJ, GCJ will be set as default.
[12:02] <ma10> but i'm also monitoring #azureus and i've seen users complaining about a know bug that only happens with gcj
[12:04] <ma10> slytherin: yes it may be possible. but testing the full upgrade in a vm will probably take me some hours.
[12:08] <slytherin> ma10: Could you request output of command 'java -version' to the users who are complaining?
[12:20] <ma10> slytherin: sorry a power surge almost fried my pc
[12:23] <ma10> i'll be back in 30 mins
[15:40] <c369> hey, I try to load a project in netbeans on ubuntu; unfortunately there is a reference problem "Problem: The project uses a class library called "swing-app-framework", but this class library was not found." - I couldn't figure out, how to solve this yet...
[15:42] <slytherin> c369: load a project from existing configuration file?
[15:43] <c369> slytherin, from a project folder
[15:43] <c369> if that is what you mean
[15:45] <slytherin> c369: I am not familiar with netbeans but I guess there must be a configuration file in the folder which specifies all the libraries being referenced/used by the project.
[15:50] <c369> slytherin, yeah, netbeans shows the libraries as well
[15:51] <c369> though that does not help me much, it simplys says 'missing libarary: swing-app-framework'
[15:51] <c369> library
[15:51] <slytherin> c369: Does that prevent importing of project?
[15:52] <slytherin> c369: Got to go. Sorry can't help much. You may try asking in #ubuntu. This channel i more about packaging of java applications in Ubuntu.
[15:55] <c369> slytherin, no, I can import it - but cannot compile
[15:55] <c369> as far as i see it the library should come with the jdk
[15:55] <c369> but's not there :(


[00:43] <mhall119> man, what did you guys do?  My inbox is full of G+ emails saying people have started following Ubuntu TV!


[04:13] <mappps> hi all
[05:27] <knightwise> morning
[05:29] <knightwise> how are you mappps
[05:29] <mappps> hey.all good..you?
[05:29] <mappps> was watching suits;]
[05:30] <knightwise> just watched ep 4 of mr robot over breakfast
[05:32] <mappps> ah cool
[05:32] <mappps> like it?
[05:33] <knightwise> its ... strange
[05:33] <mappps> heh
[05:33] <knightwise> there are a lot of cool geeky references in it but .. The story is very bizarre
[05:33] <mappps> yea
[05:34] <mappps> must remember dont mention what i have
[05:34] <mappps> someone at work wanted to borrow one of my laptops...as he broke his
[05:34] <mappps> I HATE lending electronics out
[05:34] <mappps> hate hate hat
[05:34] <mappps> e
[05:34] <knightwise> i never lend out hardware
[05:34] <mappps> come back damaged or something
[05:34] <mappps> yea why cant he just buy one for goodness sake
[05:34] <mappps> laptops are cheap as these days
[05:34] <knightwise> true.
[05:35] <mappps> 'oh you have 2 with you ..cant be doing anything'
[05:35] <mappps> so i had to format and reinstall..not giving someone a machine i use
[05:35] <mappps> dont want people snooping around
[05:37] <knightwise> mappps: I laugh in their face when people say that
[05:37] <knightwise> i'm an IT guy .. buy your own machine
[05:37] <mappps> ya
[05:37] <mappps> i paid 349 for my lenovo i3 months back
[05:37] <mappps> just buy one for 300 or 250
[05:37] <mappps> hardly a lot
[05:38] <knightwise> yep .. if its not important enough to buy your own ... you don't need one
[05:38] <mappps> he just wanted it for the net he says
[05:38] <mappps> i said if it comes back damaged in any way i dont want to HEAR ANY excuses
[05:39] <mappps> i gave it to him in perfect condition and i want it back the same
[05:39] <mappps> fair imo
[05:42] <knightwise> tell him to go buy a friggin chromebook :)
[05:42] <mappps> ja
[05:42] <knightwise> go surf porn on his own machine
[05:43] <mappps> heh
[05:44] <knightwise> I bet you didn't want that mental image stuck in your head did ya
[05:46] <mappps> heh
[05:46] <mappps> watching mr robot e5 atm:D
[05:46] <mappps> might go to the fair tonight
[05:46] <mappps> ferriea
[05:49] <knightwise> ep 5 ,
[05:49] <knightwise> thats fresh , gonna get that
[05:51] <mappps> ;]
[06:19] <knightwise> incoming :)
[06:20] <knightwise> ok , the nagiospi i built is working pretty smoothly :)
[06:20] <knightwise>  its currently monitoring my websites and all of my internal network devices and servers
[06:20] <mappps> whts that
[06:20] <mappps> actually think i lookd at it nagios monitorring thing?
[06:21] <mappps> couldnt get it to work
[06:25] <knightwise> it was pretty ok , i just copied the image to the pi , booted it up and added a couple of hosts via the web interface
[06:59] <diplo> Morning all
[07:09] <knightwise> hey diplo
[07:21] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:27] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[07:27] <knightwise> hey MooDoo , brobostigon
[07:27] <brobostigon> hi knightwise
[07:28] <knightwise> I wonder if sourceforge is back up today
[07:28] <knightwise> need to figure something out in the Nagios Documentation
[07:40] <MooDoo> knightwise: yeah it's been down a few days now hasn't it
[08:31] <TwistedLucidity> knightwise: It was up on Monday for me
[08:31] <TwistedLucidity> And it was up yesterday as I had to grab hp-lip
[08:49] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:53] <Myrtti_> trying to plan a honeymoon sucks
[08:54] <bigcalm> Myrtti_: go for an all inclusive package somewhere. Let other people have that organising stress
[08:54] <Myrtti_> bigcalm: too late for that, we have booked the flights (but nothing else) already
[08:54] <bigcalm> Hayley and I did a coach trip to Belgium as our mini-moon and then a cruise to Norway the following year as our proper honeymoon
[08:55] <Myrtti_> glorious Virgin Atlantic Premium Economy, yeah baby yeah!
[08:56] <Myrtti_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2HBdRCroks mwhahahaha
[09:02] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Gorgeous Grandma Day! 😃
[09:02] <bigcalm> Grandma, we love you
[09:03] <bigcalm> Grandma, we do
[09:04] <JamesTait> https://youtu.be/g5TVKhjEVtQ
[09:17]  * zmoylan-pi hums matchstick men and matchstick cats & dogs to get grandad earworm out of my head.
[09:21]  * awilkins puts on Tay Tay v.loud
[09:25] <Myrtti_> np. Darude - Sandstorm ♪
[09:29] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:31] <davmor2> JamesTait: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtymNiYlSD4
[09:34] <davmor2> Morning head song today bow wow wow I want Cnady no idea where that got dredged up from but added to the list \o/
[09:34] <davmor2> Candy even
[10:05] <TwistedLucidity> Well that's weird. The first window of a byobu session connected from cywin won't accept Shift-Fn etc; and the Fn keys don't work at all from mRemoteNG.
[10:05] <TwistedLucidity> I blame Windows.
[10:05] <zmoylan-pi> well windows and function keys are weird now as some laptops think that function keys are for using browser and changing the volume...
[10:06] <TwistedLucidity> That's more a fault of the OEMs
[10:06] <TwistedLucidity> When I demove byobu the guy using the Mac had loads of trouble with the key-combos.
[10:06] <zmoylan-pi> true but ms could say stop that silliness if they weren't obsessed with adding more keys to keyboard with windows logo on it
[10:08] <Myrtti_> in case someone is looking into buying stylish mens flight socks, Nabee has a -50% sale on mens' sizes. http://nabeesocks.com/collections/mens?mc_cid=9f192b77a2&mc_eid=6b32bf68c6
[10:08] <TwistedLucidity> Are those really compression hose?
[10:09] <Myrtti_> the markings on my legs after wearing them say yes
[10:09] <Myrtti_> (I've used them for years)
[10:09] <TwistedLucidity> Ah, it only says that on the front page
[10:10] <TwistedLucidity> Meh, I get up and walk around. I do have Falke compression socks for the m'cycle though
[10:11] <Myrtti_> I've got elevated risk for DVI so I have ten pairs in my sock drawer and only some single pairs of woollen and normal bamboo socks
[10:11] <TwistedLucidity> Practice your handstands in th aisle!
[10:13] <Myrtti_> I wear them all the time...
[10:14] <arsenip> have to say i have a pile of compression socks at home
[10:14] <arsenip> from flying lots, and never wearing them.
[10:16] <zmoylan-pi> just remember NOT to use them as disguise if robbing a post office :-p
[10:17] <Myrtti_> kek
[10:42] <TwistedLucidity> Hmm...when I fire eth1, I lose DNS on eth0. Odd.
[10:43] <TwistedLucidity> "fire up"
[10:48] <foobarry> whats the deal with flash now using firefox?
[10:48] <foobarry> is there a way to get it up to date and working ?
[10:49] <foobarry> it complains all the time now
[10:49] <penguin42> the update that came out a couple of days ago should be fine
[10:49] <foobarry> flash update or firefox?
[10:49] <penguin42> flash
[10:49] <foobarry> thx
[10:50] <penguin42> but for goodness sake - always run all your updates!
[10:50] <foobarry> The following packages will be upgraded: firefox firefox-locale-en flashplugin-installer gimp-gmic google-chrome-stable libmysqlclient18 linux-generic
[10:51] <foobarry> cool. tried a couple days ago and wasn't there
[10:51] <foobarry> thx
[10:54] <TwistedLucidity> Huzzah! DNS works, now I just have a routing problem...
[10:55] <TwistedLucidity> I've had continual issues with Flash over the last few weeks. Keep getting whinges that "flashplugin-installer" has permanent failures.
[10:55] <TwistedLucidity> It needs to die. And die now.
[10:56] <penguin42> yes a couple of cases where I've had to rerun the flashplugin-installer - I think it downloads from archives.canonical.om and occasionally has problems on it
[11:01] <TwistedLucidity> And now DNS is goosed again.  Namecalling a Nameserver..
[11:11] <davmor2> knightwise: sounds welsh all consonants and no vowels
[11:13] <andrewebdev> clear
[11:13] <andrewebdev> oops
[11:13] <andrewebdev> forgot I'm not in a terminal there
[11:14] <davmor2> D'oh
[11:15] <foobarry> /clear
[11:16]  * knightwise puts back the defibrilator pads ... :(
[11:16] <bigcalm> cls
[11:17]  * zmoylan-pi hands knightwise the overcharged cattle prod...
[11:18] <davmor2> No command 'cls' found, but there are 20 similar ones
[11:18] <davmor2> cls: command not found
 about 25 times does the trick :-)
[11:19] <penguin42> ctrl-l
[11:19] <davmor2> reset
[11:32] <knightwise> Offers davmor2 the kaddleprod .. wantit ?
[11:34] <davmor2> knightwise: I already have one :D
[11:42] <popey> knightwise: which microsoft surface did you have ubuntu on? and is it reliable / decent battery life / keyboard just work etc?
[11:48] <knightwise> popey: i installed it on the surface pro 1 , everything including the keyboard worked out fo the box
[11:49] <knightwise> but the wifi was not very reliable. sometimes I had speeddrops :(
[11:49] <knightwise> but for the rest batterly life and everything is a-ok
[11:49] <zmoylan-pi> didn't you mention a problem with suspend?
[11:52] <knightwise> Suspend was ok
[11:53] <andrewebdev> sigh, for some reason Chrome browser is broken today. Completely crashes ubuntu, can't even ctrl-alt-f1
[11:54] <penguin42> andrewebdev: Have you done any graphics driver updates?
[11:55] <andrewebdev> nope, just ran my ubuntu updates as usual
[11:55] <awilkins> Some el-cheapo Dell android tabs, might make a good experimentation platform : http://outlet.euro.dell.com/Online/InventorySearch.aspx?c=uk&cs=ukdfh1&l=en&s=dfh&brandid=8&dgc=BA&cid=285804&lid=5512262&acd=25789212634496260
[11:56] <awilkins> Wowzer, include ones with the LTE chipset for £75
[11:56] <penguin42> awilkins: The intel tablets vary a bit in how fiddleable with they are
[11:57] <penguin42> awilkins: I know there is someone who got it working on the next gen Dell Venue 8's
[11:57] <penguin42> ^it^Fedora
[11:59] <andrewebdev> although it must be a graphical issue because chrome has multiple graphics glitches, right before it crashes. like black menus (literally just a black box)
[12:00] <awilkins> andrewebdev, Is it because of WEbGL rendering?
[12:00] <awilkins> Which GPU / drivers are you on?
[12:10] <popey> awilkins: yeah, looking for something cheap / 2nd hand
[12:10] <popey> blimey, those are cheap
[12:12] <popey> ugh Intel HD Graphics (Imagination PowerVR G6400)
[12:12] <penguin42> yeh
[12:28] <mappps> gah
[12:28] <mappps> enquired about an apartment yesterday and asked for a viewing
[12:28] <mappps> gone today after she said we could view it later
[12:29] <mappps> hate moving..hate flats
[12:29] <mappps> much preferred my own house;/
[12:50] <foobarry> on 12.04, if i have linux-headers-generic-lts-raring and saucy and trusty, can i remove the raring meta package?
[12:50] <foobarry> seems OK
[12:50] <foobarry> ..
[13:19] <davmor2> foobarry: should be fine, in theory it would be like removing a previous kernel iirc
[13:19] <foobarry> of which if have about 100
[13:19] <foobarry> autoremove hasn't been keeping up
[13:20] <davmor2> foobarry: autoremove never removed old kernels till 14.04 iirc
[13:20] <foobarry> orly?
[13:21] <davmor2> foobarry: you would have to remove the main kernel package for each and then autoremove should clear it iirc
[14:22] <foobarry> email from caonical "Upcomming Events" tut tut
[14:23] <popey> oh jeez
[14:29] <bashrc_> anything exciting?
[14:30] <foobarry> nothing local
[14:30] <foobarry> containercon
[14:31] <foobarry> turns out its a tupperware party
[14:32] <bashrc_> heh
[14:39] <TwistedLucidity> foobarry: That's because they know you are super excited to know what's happening. Tell all your friends!
[14:40]  * TwistedLucidity spent a large part of yesterday un-subing from various spam-lists I am certain I never sub'ed to.
[17:14] <diddledan> evening
[18:53]  * diddledan watching mr robot
[19:20] <mappps> hmm
[19:20] <mappps> what site to look for to find a guide ..for a whole day
[19:20] <mappps> escorts brings up different;p
[19:22] <diddledan> lmao
[19:22] <mappps> i want a guide for 3-5 days in kiev
[19:22] <mappps> average wage like $240/month so
[19:22] <diddledan> mappps: an escort might guide you in something
[19:22] <mappps> i figure even $50  day would be good for them?
[19:23] <mappps> dont wanna get stuck going to tourist only places
[19:28] <diddledan> mr robot is awesome
[19:29] <diddledan> it's dark and yet somehow hopeful
[19:30] <diddledan> there's a new episode airing today according to my scheduler, so that'll download later I guess
[19:41] <DJones> mappps: Just stand in the middle of red square and shout down with putin, I'm sure you'll see parts of russia that aren;t on the tourist track
[19:42] <mappps> heh
[19:42] <mappps> im going ukraine not russia
[19:42] <mappps> ;p
[19:42] <mappps> diddledan,  the story line is kinda odd at times.no?
[19:42] <DJones> Ah well, shout "up with putin" in ukraine then
[19:58] <diddledan> DJones: up the british monarchy. <-- and up yours
[20:07] <Laney> up the bracket
[20:09] <zmoylan-pi> up the dubs! :-p
[20:09]  * diddledan rubs a dub
[20:09] <diddledan> rub a dub dub
[20:18]  * DJones would rub a duck, but the dogs running round with it
[20:18]  * zmoylan-pi passes over my rubber duck
[20:32] <penguin42> mappps: Ask a taxi driver?
[20:35] <diddledan> surely those escorts he googled will be suitable, no?
[20:36] <diddledan> nothing like a local chick that you're paying for sex with to show you the town
[20:49] <daftykins> diddledan: your... scheduler? :>
[20:51] <diddledan> daftykins: it tells when things are due to air for the first time. then it sneakily goes and downloads a copy
[20:52] <diddledan> it's really quite a norty program
[20:58] <daftykins> tsk tsk
[20:58] <daftykins> i have a you know what client that watches a private RSS feed to do the same
[20:58] <diddledan> I know, I've told it off several times but it refuses to not download copies
[20:59] <daftykins> see that odd story claiming some co. asked google to takedown <IP_ADDRESS>:4000 for having a copy of Jurassic World? :>
[21:00] <diddledan> hmm, nope
[21:00] <diddledan> lol
[21:09] <zmoylan-pi> poor universal
[21:09] <zmoylan-pi> trying to catch up with sony
[21:41] <diddledan> why is it that when you decide to watch netflix you, instead of actually watching anything, just scroll through endlessly and then give up?
[21:53]  * diddledan sings "scrollin' scrollin' scrollin'. keep them thumbnails movin'. netflix!"
[21:54] <zmoylan-pi> confucious say man with one book knows what to read ban with huge library can never decide
[21:54] <zmoylan-pi> *man with huge
[21:54] <diddledan> man with huge!?!
[21:54] <diddledan> lucky fella
[21:57] <diddledan> this one sounds fun: cybergeddon
[21:58] <diddledan> low-budget hacker movies ftw
[21:58] <diddledan> let's see just how wacky they idea of hacking is
[21:58] <zmoylan-pi> favourite hacker movies.. 1) malcolm 2) hackers...
[21:59] <diddledan> hackers is so terrible it's awesome
[21:59] <zmoylan-pi> and hackers is only there for great sound track
[21:59] <zmoylan-pi> malcolm has better sound track
[21:59] <diddledan> hackers has gone from the worst depiction to absolutely epic
[22:00] <diddledan> I don't think I've seen malcolm
[22:00] <zmoylan-pi> it's a great hacker movie with no computers whatsoever
[22:00] <diddledan> lol
[22:00] <diddledan> well that's not fun then
[22:01] <zmoylan-pi> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091464/ trust me you'll love it
[22:01] <zmoylan-pi> a robbery committed by drones
[22:01] <zmoylan-pi> if you don't fall out of your chair laughing i'll owe you €1
[22:02] <diddledan> omg. that's a hell of a wager
[22:02] <zmoylan-pi> i feel safe :-)
[23:34] <diddledan> I wonder what a spoof movie of the fifth element would be like with the title "the fifth elephant"
[23:38] <penguin42> you mean Fifth element wasn't a spoof?
[23:38] <diddledan> well I suppose it used to be, but it's transcended into folklore now
[23:39] <diddledan> it's always fun to see bruce's willi doing something fun
[23:39] <diddledan> hmm, double "fun"
[23:39] <diddledan> replace the second "fun" with "silly"
[23:39] <diddledan> that works
[23:45] <diddledan> I wonder if that means I'm in america? netflix is letting me play the expendables 3


[05:40] <pleia2> dev server is inaccessible due to datacenter problems, should return on its own
[05:42] <Unit193> Not Atlanta for once! \o/
[06:05] <pleia2> it's better now :)
[06:06] <pleia2> hm, at least it's getting there
[06:06] <pleia2> anyway, I need sleep
[06:08] <Unit193> G'night.


[21:16] <jose__> <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:16] <jean__> je cherche de l'aide
[21:16] <jose__> en
[21:16] <jose__> config ter
[21:16] <jose__> ssh
[21:17] <k1l> jose__: this is irc. we dont run your terminal commands
[21:17] <peter> hello
[21:18] <l4m8d4> k1l: okay, so Xorg.0.log doesn't indicate any errors as far as I can see. That is, no new messages are being added upon running the command
[21:18] <anticitizen> sigh. i started the 16.04 upgrade over two hours ago. still chugging along, and it's past 5:00 and i want to go home...
[21:18] <jean__> ubuntu est il bien securise pour voir son courrier ou faire sa declaration en lign e
[21:18] <lmtd> will Lenovo E31-70 13.3" HD run ubuntu 16.04 lts without any hardware/driver issues? - https://www.komplett.no/product/866203/pc-nettbrett/baerbar-pc/ultraportable/lenovo-e31-70-133-hd#
[21:18] <deadlock> When I try to experiment the live media without installation, it happens. http://imgur.com/BYgw7Ll Anyone knows how to solve it?
[21:19] <k1l> jean__: you might want to try #ubuntu-fr
[21:19] <k1l> l4m8d4: i am not an xorg expert. maybe someone other knows about that
[21:22] <l4m8d4> k1l: Okay. Well, thanks so far then.
[21:22] <l4m8d4> I also found out that xrandr still supports all the parameters I am using, and that they still should mean the same
[21:23] <Slade> Jordan_U, well it upgraded successfully, grub-install /dev/sda doesnt work correctly tho still
[21:23] <Jordan_U> Slade: If you reboot now then it will likely boot with an old kernel, which might fail.
[21:24] <Slade> Jordan_U, you think it'd even boot to an old kernel? hmm yea i said no reboot either way..
[21:24] <Jordan_U> Slade: Have you tried "sudo mount -o remount /dev/sda3 /" ?
[21:24] <Slade> update-grub works
[21:24] <Slade> let me try that
[21:25] <Slade> done
[21:25] <igoryonya> hello, I have Ubuntu 15.10. Nvidia GeForce 9800 GT. I've screwed up the driver with the one, that was downloaded from the nvidia site. Now, I get the graphical login screen, but It doesn't load the desktop, after I enter the password. Just returns me to the login screen.
[21:25] <igoryonya> I've figured that 3d version of driver is not loading somehow, since it works, when I try to load openbox session, instead of Unity.
[21:25] <Slade> Jordan_U, grub-install still doesnt work after that
[21:26] <anticitizen> igoryonya: since you can log into openbox, you should be able to change drivers from there
[21:26] <igoryonya> How can I return to the nvidia drivers by using the command line, because, from synaptic's drivers options, it just hangs and doesn't install anything.
[21:26] <Slade> no changes to mountinfo either
[21:26] <l4m8d4> Now I found out that on my system, "xserver-xorg-video-ati", "xserver-xorg-video-radeon" and "xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu" are all installed. Is that ok? Don't they interfere with each other?
[21:27] <Jordan_U> Slade: Please pastebin the output of "sudo grub-install --debug /dev/sda".
[21:28] <igoryonya> anticitizen: It says, applying, but doesn't do anything. I even tried it leaving for the whole night, it didn't move a bit.
[21:28] <Jordan_U> Slade: sudo grub-install --debug /dev/sda 2>&1 | pastebinit
[21:28] <igoryonya> anticitizen: what packages do I need to remove/install, in order to get everything back.
[21:28] <Slade> Jordan_U, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7f8109aff9d78e3cb963fcc43b23ab76
[21:29] <humb3rtoluna> Hi someboy help me with skype for bussisness
[21:29] <humb3rtoluna> ?
[21:29] <humb3rtoluna> on linux
[21:29] <anticitizen> igoryonya: http://www.binarytides.com/install-nvidia-drivers-ubuntu-14-04/
[21:29] <mXr-> trying again in the hope that ustz people might be around now and able to help :) im struggling with systemd on 16.04. i need to configure openvpn to start after ALL networking is initialized, and it seems impossible to pull it off, because network-online.target doesnt do its thing
[21:29] <Slade> Jordan_U, didnt know about pastebinit. kinda cool
[21:29] <mXr-> anyone fluid with systemd? :)
[21:30] <humb3rtoluna> I try with pidgin but now does not working and and try with sky but i have problems with the interface
[21:30] <humb3rtoluna> somebody helpme with another software or other options
[21:30] <humb3rtoluna> ??
[21:30] <zykotick9> igoryonya: something to think about for next time, #debian's "why nvidia installer sucks" factoid pasted to http://paste.ubuntu.com/15992126/
[21:32] <kotoReZ> I just bought a new hard drive. Is it worth installing 16.04 or should I stick to 14.04 atm?
[21:33] <Jordan_U> kotoReZ: Depends on your needs, but without knowing anything else I'd say go with 16.04.
[21:33] <adrian_1908> kotoReZ: depends on your use case, doesn't it? If you want the latest and greatest, might as well keep up with releases.
[21:33] <kotoReZ> well my case is stability/reliability
[21:34] <soup4you2> if not install 14.04, and when the urge raises, pray and try a do-release-upgrade
[21:34] <nedstark> i'd stick with 14.04 at least until 16.04.1, or maybe longer
[21:34] <soup4you2> but 16.04 has so been pretty stable for myself
[21:34] <Jordan_U> kotoReZ: For newer hardware 16.04 may be more stable than 14.04 (or may not).
[21:34] <kotoReZ> Ok. I will try 16.04
[21:35] <Term1nal> as long as you don't want to install .deb packages via clicking them
[21:35] <Term1nal> :P
[21:35] <alu> hey
[21:35] <l4m8d4> kotoReZ: If your case is stability, do a backup or snapshot of some sort before upgrading, so in case something important breaks you can easily roll back without having to reinstall everything
[21:35] <alu> I'm trying to update from 15.10 to 16.04
[21:35] <alu> i did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:35] <alu> it didnt work
[21:35] <k1l> alu: that doesnt work that way
[21:36] <kotoReZ> Term1nal: whats wrong with doubleclicking .deb?
[21:36] <k1l> alu: use "update-manager" for GUI or "sudo do-release-upgrade" for cli
[21:36] <zykotick9> dist-upgrade <- the most misunderstood apt-based command...
[21:36] <Term1nal> kotoReZ: currently bugged.
[21:36] <l4m8d4> alu: apt-get dist-upgrade will just update you to the latest 15.10 state, not 26,04
[21:36] <k1l> zykotick9: way back then, that was really the idea behind that naming
[21:36] <l4m8d4> *16.04
[21:36] <alu> okay thanks
[21:36] <alu> i did do-release-upgrade
[21:37] <zykotick9> k1l: i'd believe that.
[21:37] <soup4you2> i did do-release-upgrade and no issues
[21:37] <kotoReZ> btw do you guys like new software store?
[21:37] <Jordan_U> mXr-: Have you read https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/NetworkTarget/ ?
[21:37] <l4m8d4> btw, go with 'apt full-upgrade'  instead of 'apt-get dist-upgrade' in the future. It is more modern, has a progress bar for example
[21:38] <soup4you2> havent looked at the new store..  always just tend to apt-get install
[21:38] <k1l> kotoReZ: i only use apt on terminal. and most times in here its better to use apt for easier support.
[21:38] <l4m8d4> also 'apt update' and 'apt autoremove'
[21:38] <mXr-> Jordan_U: partially, yes. the problem is that systemd-networkd-wait-online.service seems to come up immediately for me
[21:38] <l4m8d4> soup4you2: also 'apt install' :D saves you some typing and gets you a nifty progress bar
[21:39] <mXr-> and the workarounds i can find on the interwebs are making me want to kill myself
[21:39] <mXr-> like this one http://v-optimal.nl/index.php/2016/02/23/systemd-the-network-online-target-is-reached-too-early/
[21:39] <zykotick9> l4m8d4: note "apt upgrade" is much like dist-upgrade for apt-get currently... it'll actually update everything (but won't remove/break anything)...
[21:39] <hep7> hello
[21:39] <hep7> a question
[21:39] <ivo_> hey guys .... any ideas on why zfs is not available in the installer?
[21:40] <Jordan_U> mXr-: So what is your definition of "online"?
[21:40] <hep7> hidden files won't stop showing
[21:40] <Jordan_U> mXr-: And I hope you didn't mean that you only "partially" read that page.
[21:40] <wolfpi> Ctrl + H ?
[21:40] <adrian_1908> tried CTRL-H?
[21:40] <l4m8d4> zykotick9: as far as I know, 'apt upgrade' will do the same as 'apt-get upgrade'. Correct me if I'm wrong
[21:40] <k1l> ivo_: the intsaller cant handle that. but it should work if you make that partitions before running the installer, i heard
[21:40] <mXr-> Jordan_U: well. my openvpn instances are dying because they cannot bind to specific ip addresses, because those interfaces are not up yet
[21:40] <hep7> yes
[21:40] <zykotick9> l4m8d4: you're wrong ;)
[21:40] <deadlock> AMD graphic cards will not supported on 16.04?
[21:41] <nicomachus> deadlock: the OSS radeon driver works.
[21:41] <soup4you2> l4m8d4: you can also enable the progress bar in apt.conf.d/  :)  Dpkg::Progress-Fancy "1";
[21:41] <k1l> deadlock: wrong
[21:41] <hep7> vulkan is available?
[21:41] <mXr-> Jordan_U: meaning, "up" would be that the interface has an address configured and link state up i guess. which is exactly what the "systemd-networkd-wait-online.service" is supposed to provide
[21:41] <l4m8d4> zykotick9: ok then. I only use full-upgrade anyway, so
[21:41] <k1l> deadlock: amd stopped making the fglrx. but they make the kernel driver amd_gpu now. and there is the radeon still
[21:41] <mXr-> which is actually calling ExecStart=/lib/systemd/systemd-networkd-wait-online
[21:42] <l4m8d4> soup4you2: Yeah, but why use deprecated notation if you can just use the new one
[21:42] <zykotick9> l4m8d4: that's fine, for you.  but i'd suggest not recommending it to others - it _could_ break there/your systems.
[21:42] <k1l> hep7: press "ctrl+h" to make them not show again in filebrowser
[21:42] <robertbellarmine> what is the command line argument to unpackage a .deb file
[21:42] <soup4you2> l4m8d4: force of habbit :)  hard to train and old dog new tricks
[21:42] <k1l> robertbellarmine: unpack? or install?
[21:42] <hep7> k1l you already said that
[21:43] <deadlock> nicomachus, k1l this happens when I try to experiment OS with the live media: http://imgur.com/BYgw7Ll
[21:43] <l4m8d4> zykotick9: Yep. It can potentially break your system, but only if you don't pay attention. One should always pay attention while upgrading
[21:43] <nicomachus> robertbellarmine: to install: sudo dpkg -i <package>
[21:43] <robertbellarmine> nicomachus, thanks!
[21:43] <hep7> k1l something wrong ib setting?
[21:43] <zykotick9> l4m8d4: true.  but "apt upgrade" doesn't require close inspection... thus my suggestion ;)
[21:43] <Jordan_U> mXr-: Are you using systemd-networkd to manage those interfaces?
[21:43] <mXr-> Jordan_U: yes
[21:43] <ivo_> hey guys .... any ideas on why zfs is not available in the installer?
[21:43] <mXr-> except for lo, im not sure if that matters
[21:43] <k1l> deadlock: try "nomodeset" maybe?
[21:44] <hep7> ivo_ no idea
[21:44] <nicomachus> deadlock: almost looks like a kernel panic. Old hardware?
[21:44] <k1l> ivo_: <k1l> ivo_: the intsaller cant handle that. but it should work if you make that partitions before running the installer, i heard
[21:44] <l4m8d4> zykotick9: Doesn't require close inspection? I wouldn't say that. Always pay attention to changes and changelogs, or you could be bitten by it, also with 'apt upgrade'
[21:44] <deadlock> k1l, how can I do it?
[21:44] <k1l> ivo_: please read the answers if you ask
[21:44] <Slade> Jordan_U, bunch of stuff in that script i dont understand. especially the mdadm thing at the end
[21:44] <k1l> !nomodeset | deadlock
[21:44] <deadlock> nicomachus, no. 1 and half year
[21:44] <nicomachus> deadlock: then try nomodeset like k1l suggests.
[21:44] <Jordan_U> mXr-: Did you run "systemctl enable systemd-networkd-wait-online.service" as that page said is required?
[21:44] <ivo_> k1l, sorry I've nissed it :)
[21:44] <ivo_> 10x
[21:45] <nicomachus> deadlock: or does that happen before GRUB?
[21:45] <ivo_> *missed
[21:45] <mXr-> Jordan_U: yes. and a "status" shows that it actually started fine
[21:45] <mXr-> Jordan_U: it took appearently 3 seconds to "start" it, which sounds reasonable
[21:45] <deadlock> nicomachus, this happen after click to experiment system. With the X working
[21:46] <mXr-> Jordan_U: i copied<EMAIL_ADDRESS>over into /etc and modified it, added those After= and Wants= statements for network-online.target as the page says, too
[21:47] <hep7> no one?
[21:48] <l4m8d4> So, nobody have a clue about my problems with my old graphics unit? Problem is, I might have t
[21:48] <l4m8d4> *to go back to 15.10 if I can't resolve it
[21:49] <deadlock> nicomachus, k1l, thank you, guys. I will to try it
[21:49] <grey> What's the recommended way to create a bootable usb key for 16.04 from windows? I usually use linux live usb creator, but it didn't work when I tried it a moment ago
[21:49] <Jordan_U> grey: In what way did it "not work"?
[21:49] <nicomachus> hep7: in your file manager (assuming nautilus), go to Edit -> Preferences and select the Views tab.
[21:50] <nicomachus> hep7: then unselect "show hidden and backup files"
[21:50] <adrian_1908> l4m8d4: Maybe 16.04 is getting too new? I think Ubuntu isn't aiming at endless backwards-compatibility, they want to be fairly modern.
[21:50] <grey> Jordan_U: I got a "Failed to load Idlinux.c32" error
[21:50] <l4m8d4> I just noticed that my monitors just turn off enitrely if I set them to native resolution
[21:50] <hep7> nicomachus yes I am aware of that
[21:50] <grey> I'm doing a full format of the drive and I'll try it again, maybe the quickformat lili did wasn't enough
[21:50] <nicomachus> hep7: ok, so what else do you want?
[21:51] <Jordan_U> grey: Were you using the latest version of LiLi?
[21:51] <grey> Jordan_U: that's a good question, I haven't updated it in forever, didn't realize it was still even being updated tbh
[21:51] <Jordan_U> grey: Quick format vs full format shouldn't matter unless the drive is going bad, in which case you just should trash it.
[21:52] <grey> 2.9.4
[21:52] <grey> which looks like the latest
[21:52] <l4m8d4> adrian_1908: Well, could be, but it would be sad because linux was always known for good backwards-compatibility hardware-wise. Also, I don't see why ubuntu 15.10 would support my graphics unit more than 16.04. I don't want to resort to outdated software just because of an outdated computer ;)
[21:52] <hep7> nicomachus they keep showing
[21:52] <nicomachus> hep7: even after unchecking that box?
[21:52] <hep7> nicomachus yes
[21:53] <nicomachus> then I'd suggest submitting a bug report.
[21:53] <l4m8d4> adrian_1908: For example, I still have a computer in active use from 1996, and it just works fine with kernel 4.5
[21:53] <nicomachus> hep7: or you can try doing it with dconf editor.
[21:53] <Slade> Jordan_U, ok. So I mounted sda1  deleted everything on it.  copied /boot to sda1 renamed /boot to /boot.new  added sda1 back into /etc/fstab  did mkdir /boot did a mount -a.. then grub-install /dev/sda now works
[21:54] <nicomachus> hep7: 'apt-get install dconf-tools', then 'dconf-editor', then browse to org > gtk > settings > file-chooser and uncheck the "hidden file" option.
[21:54] <hep7> nicomachus I don't want to install it
[21:54] <Slade> Jordan_U,  then followed it up with an update-grub   .. did i miss anything?
[21:55] <hep7> nicomachus I want to what is the problem
[21:55] <Jordan_U> Slade: Does /boot/ now contain Ubuntu 16.04's kernel?
[21:55] <nicomachus> hep7: then we can't help you anymore. You've been provided with solutions, which I found in 10 secs of googling.
[21:55] <Slade> Jordan_U, vmlinuz-4.4.0-21-generic
[21:55] <adrian_1908> l4m8d4: yeah, I can understand that, though maybe there are better distributions for that. Ubuntu seems pretty modern too me, and I reckon things like Mir might only work with drivers which themselves aren't very backward compatible. You could over course just pick a lighter Ubuntu derivative and see how that works out.
[21:56] <hep7> nicomachus are you serious?  I have been using Ubuntu to hide/unhide hidden files
[21:56] <hep7> long enough
[21:56] <Slade> Jordan_U, it looks like there is plenty of space for the kernel. there wasnt enough space for it during the install procedure..  going to need to fix this eventually, but i've got no clue what to do about it hating on sda3
[21:57] <nicomachus> maybe you can sit them down for a nice candlelit dinner and let them get to know each other.
[21:57] <adrian_1908> hep7: can you provide a screenshot? Maybe some misunderstanding?
[21:57] <hep7> nicomachus if you don't know the answer probably you should just let answer people who know
[21:57] <Jordan_U> Slade: Just to confirm, please pastebin your /proc/self/mountinfo where I expect you'll see "/dev/sda3" rather than "/dev/disk/by-uuid/..." for /boot/.
[21:57] <l4m8d4> adrian_1908: I am already running xubuntu on that machine. That's about the lightest an ubuntu can get
[21:57] <l4m8d4> It runs very fast too, only the graphics driver is a problem
[21:57] <adrian_1908> l4m8d4: yeah me too, my favorite distro.
[21:57] <nicomachus> hep7: sorry for trying to help you when no one else was answering. Have a good weekend, now.
[21:57] <Jordan_U> Slade: Hopefully with 16.04 the odd mountinfo problem will be gone and we can just fix it like we planned before.
[21:58] <adrian_1908> l4m8d4: I know too little about these things, wish I could help you.
[21:58] <terratoma> can you all quit downloading ubuntu for a few minute?  i need to grab kernel-package
[21:58] <n1md4> anyone using mir + unity8?
[21:58] <hep7> adrian_1908 it's simple it doesn't remember the setting
[21:58] <Jordan_U> terratoma: Have patience or try a different mirror.
[21:58] <nicomachus> terratoma: or use the torrent. and seed!
[21:59] <adrian_1908> hep7: but you never get into a hidden state, or it shows the files again next time you launch?
[21:59] <Jordan_U> nicomachus: Hard (though actually possible) to use bittorrent for apt :)
[21:59] <k1l> n1md4: the guys in #ubuntu-mir are :)
[21:59] <magento_rocks1> why does this happen?  do-release-upgrade  ... No new release found
[21:59] <magento_rocks1> trying to upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04
[21:59] <l4m8d4> adrian_1908: Thanks. Maybe someone can help me in the forums. I guess I should go there and explain the problem more thorougly
[21:59] <nicomachus> Jordan_U: ha, whoops. Thought he was downloading the .iso packages. :)
[21:59] <Jordan_U> !ltsupgrade | magento_rocks1
[22:00] <hep7> adrian_1908 yes just screen refresh is enough I think
[22:00] <magento_rocks1> any way to manually upgrade now?
[22:00] <Jordan_U> magento_rocks1: I would strongly recommend just waiting.
[22:00] <zykotick9> magento_rocks1: while i agree with Jordan_U above, yes it is possible.
[22:01] <magento_rocks1> ok.  i wanted to upgrade because the version of apache installed on ubuntu 14.04 is insecure, and it's the latest version available.
[22:01] <Jordan_U> magento_rocks1: What is insecure about it?
[22:01] <zykotick9> magento_rocks1: are you sure?  security updates get backported!
[22:02] <magento_rocks1> CVE-2015-3185
[22:02] <magento_rocks1> This vulnerability has been fixed in Apache HTTP Server version 2.4.14
[22:03] <magento_rocks1> on my up-to-date ubuntu 14.04 server: Apache/2.4.7 (Ubuntu)
[22:03] <zykotick9> magento_rocks1: just because Apache says it's fixed in Version X, doesn't mean that fix wasn't backported to ubuntu's verions!
[22:03] <Jordan_U> magento_rocks1: Fixed in 2.4.7-1ubuntu4.5 http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/USN-2686-1/
[22:03] <TJ-> magento_rocks1: nope, it's been fixed. See the apache2 changelog /usr/share/doc/apaches/changelog
[22:04] <magento_rocks1> ohh gotcha.  ok thanks
[22:04] <magento_rocks1> it came up in an automated scan
[22:04] <magento_rocks1> it thought it was vulnerable
[22:04] <Slade> Jordan_U, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e3a592697e8a9a03d50856542d8dff9c
[22:04] <TJ-> magento_rocks1: "debian/patches/CVE-2015-3185.patch: deprecate old API and add new one"
[22:04] <TJ-> magento_rocks1: all supported releases receive backported security fixes
[22:05] <Jordan_U> Slade: Indeed, it's not using the symlink there.
[22:05] <pelle_> Hi! could someone help me sort a thing, whenever i try change wallpaper nothing happens, if i look in settings editor for xfce it says that the wallpaper has been changed for xscreen0 and my display does not even show there, just the second screen i have wich it works perfectly on... how do i get around this problem?
[22:05] <Slade> Jordan_U, i dont even know what the symlink means. or how i'd unfix it
[22:05] <Slade> err. fix it
[22:06] <Slade> Jordan_U, so what do you think. safe for a reboot?
[22:06] <Jordan_U> Slade: Well, if you're adventurous try rebooting. It's just as likely to fail from some other part of the upgrade. If you're not adventurous, then... too bad?
[22:06] <magento_rocks1> thanks, good to know to that the security updates are back-ported even tho the version number is still the "old version"
[22:06] <TJ-> magento_rocks1: that's to avoid adding regressions due to other code changes
[22:06] <Slade> Jordan_U, tryign to think of anything else i can check or test
[22:06] <TJ-> the ubuntu part of the version increments
[22:08] <symfony> I'm having trouble installing build-essential in 16.04 because of a size mismatch with the manpages-dev package. Anyone else seeing this?
[22:09] <hep7> so 16.04 is buggy too?
[22:09] <mladoux> hep7, seems fine to me, but I guess that depends on your use case.
[22:09] <nicomachus> nothing is ever bug-free
[22:10] <zykotick9> symfony: i'd suggest trying:  delete the file(s) from /var/cache/apt/archives/ then "sudo apt-get update" then try installing again...  good luck.
[22:10] <hep7> mladoux from basic to intermediate
[22:10] <mladoux> hep7, lol
[22:10] <nicomachus> hep7: submit a bug report. They can't fix them unless you report them.
[22:11] <hep7> nicomachus windows don't have outright bug about hidden files
[22:11] <hep7> nicomachus I think I have
[22:11] <mladoux> hep7 - I use it mainly as a dev environment... as long as my text editors, compilers, and interpreters work, the rest is merely a distraction.
[22:11] <Slade> Jordan_U, ok, here it goes. fingers crossed ;)
[22:11] <hep7> mladoux yes persistent distraction
[22:12] <mrjester> 15.10 inplace upgrade to 16.10.  System was joined to AD with realmd/sssd.  Domain auth is working except for on the lock screen.  Any suggestions for where to look for related events or what process I need to debug?
[22:12] <Slade> haha  Failed to call ScheduleShutdown in logind, proceeding with immediate shutdown: Launch helper exited with unknown return code 1
[22:12] <hep7> mladoux maybe you know why?
[22:12] <mladoux> hep7, I make no such claims.
[22:12] <TJ-> mrjester: start with /var/log/auth.log
[22:13] <n1md4> k1l: ah, did not know such a channel existed.
[22:13] <mrjester> TJ-: ty
[22:13] <hep7> mladoux also my usb peripherals don't work on furst boot
[22:14] <hep7> mladoux have to restart 2-3 times
[22:14] <TJ-> mrjester: it sounds like a PAM issue, or else the 'greeter' in which case /var/log/lightdm/greeter.log or other logs in that directory
[22:14] <hep7> who can answer that?
[22:15] <mrjester> TJ-: Yes, seeing PAM errors in auth.log.  Still parsing them.
[22:15] <bizukifu_> Hi
[22:15] <mladoux> hep7, I had the same problem, unfortunately, my fix is hardware specific to the G751 series of laptops.
[22:15] <hep7> mladoux I think so too
[22:16] <hep7> Acer e2510
[22:16] <n1md4> Orphis: had to do a complete reinstall in the end, the 15.10 -> 16.04 upgrade path broke upgrading gconf and wouldn't fix itself.
[22:16] <n1md4> the sound does work fine though, for what it's worth.  did you manage to sort your issues?
[22:16] <hep7> mladoux never will buy acer again
[22:16] <mladoux> hep7, I don't know how to fix that one. There may be some USB quirks documentation out there for it though.
[22:17] <mrjester> TJ-: Still poking around, but these are the relevant events from auth.log  http://pastie.org/private/yo8sx3urvrcr0piwuaa8sq
[22:17] <kallo82> Hello i have installed today ubuntu 16.04 and i have kinda issue , whenever i install a software i have to reboot to re-cache the application list menu
[22:17] <kallo82> anyway that i could fic this ?
[22:17] <kallo82> fix*
[22:18] <zykotick9> kallo82: reboot or logout/in?
[22:18] <hep7> kallo82 you should have waited for a month or so
[22:18] <kallo82> its working fine with me as  i had many issues on previous releases (skylane stuff)
[22:18] <hep7> kallo82 16.04 will still have bugs
[22:18] <nicomachus> hep7: you aren't helping.
[22:19] <hep7> nicomachus thanks by the way
[22:19] <hep7> nicomachus there are different types/forms of help
[22:19] <dbz2k1> hello
[22:19] <kallo82> So any idea ?
[22:19] <hep7> kallo82 no idea
[22:20] <Myrtti> hep7: this channel actually prefers the actual problem solving kind of help
[22:20] <dbz2k1> does any have issues with wifi after waking up from sleep?
[22:20] <renee> test
[22:20] <dbz2k1> one
[22:20] <hep7> dbz2k1 16.04?
[22:20] <dbz2k1> yep
[22:21] <hep7> dbz2k1 no idea
[22:21] <nicomachus> dbz2k1: details? what "issues"? what's the wifi driver and chipset?
[22:21] <hep7> dbz2k1 I had similar issue with sound in 14
[22:21] <Kubius> Hiya
[22:21] <hep7> but later on updates fixed it
[22:22] <dbz2k1> @hep7 bcm4321 it keeps glitching thinking I am connected to ethernet
[22:22] <pl7ofit> who do upgrade to 16.04? i did it,flight good :3
[22:22] <Kubius> I just updated Lubuntu and now when the PC starts up I'm getting an error: [    6.297130] i8k: unable to get SMM Dell signature
[22:22] <hep7> right now I have another issue with sound
[22:23] <Kubius> It still goes into the OS, but I have to manually click past it, and it comes up every time
[22:23] <nicomachus> dbz2k1: can you paste the output of 'sudo lshw -C network' to a pastebin and link here?
[22:23] <zykotick9> Kubius: is anything actually wrong?  is it an error, or a warning?  i have no idea what it is ;)  good luck.
[22:23] <hep7> I think canonical don't care about desktop that much anymore
[22:24] <Kubius> It's an error I think
[22:24] <nicomachus> !fud | hep7
[22:24] <dbz2k1> brb need to get on the ubuntu computer
[22:24] <zykotick9> Kubius: if you have to "click past it" it's say it's a problem!  good lcuk.
[22:24] <hep7> fud?
[22:24] <Kubius> i8k, according to my googling, has to do with dell BIOS something or other
[22:24] <zykotick9> s/it's say/i'd say/
[22:24] <TJ-> how do I map miscellaneous key events/values to functionality - in this case mapping the event values generated for brghtness -/+ to the functions themselves
[22:24] <Kubius> fan control mainly
[22:24] <hep7> can I express opinions here?
[22:24] <Kubius> so I'm afraid the CPU fan won't be able to throttle up with load
[22:25] <hep7> or this room is run by canonical?
[22:25] <mladoux> hep7 this place is more about questions and answers than opinions.
[22:25] <nicomachus> TJ-: would xinput configs be helpful?
[22:25] <dbz2k1> what why the command again @hep7
[22:25] <dbz2k1> *was
[22:25] <hep7> mladoux strange
[22:25] <nicomachus> dbz2k1: it was from me. the command was "sudo lshw -C network"
[22:25] <TJ-> nicomachus: not sure... not needed to mess with this before now
[22:25] <nicomachus> without the quotes.
[22:25] <Myrtti> hep7: not really, as this is a _support_ channel
[22:26] <mladoux> there's a general chat room for off-topic topics.
[22:26] <nicomachus> TJ-: this is for mouse keys, but I believe normal keys would be similar: https://askubuntu.com/questions/492744/how-do-i-automatically-remap-buttons-on-my-mouse-at-startup
[22:26] <zykotick9> !offtopic > mladoux
[22:26] <dbz2k1> @hep7 http://pastebin.com/V9zwGEu9
[22:26] <mladoux> zykotick9, I wasn't asking for it, I was informing hep7, no worries.
[22:26] <nicomachus> TJ-: also maybe this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input
[22:27] <tgm4883> !offtopic | hep7
[22:27] <jsj1234> I'm on Xubuntu 15.10 using a Linksys WUSB6300 wifi adapter with rtl8812 driver for my network connection.  I'm using kernel 4.2.0-34-generic which works well.  I can use older kernel versions if I rebuild the driver, but if I try using 4.2.0-35 or 4.2.0-36 I get an error:
[22:27] <jsj1234> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert '8812': Exec format error
[22:28] <nicomachus> dbz2k1: looks like you don't have a wireless driver installed. in a terminal: sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source
[22:28] <hep7> wow seems like I have pressed some red buttons by expressing opinion about canonical
[22:28] <hep7> this doesn't feel right
[22:28] <tgm4883> hep7: I don't think so
[22:28] <jsj1234> correction:  that shoult read '8812au' and not '8812'
[22:28] <nicomachus> hep7: this is a support channel. If you don't have questions besides what you've already asked, please use the #ubuntu-offtopic channel.
[22:28] <tgm4883> hep7: this channel is for support, you're being directed to an offtopic channel
[22:29] <hep7> tgm4883 how much do you get paid?
[22:29] <Kubius> hep7: you can have those opinions, just -not in this specific channel-
[22:29] <tgm4883> hep7: quite a bit, but not by canonical :)
[22:29] <n1md4> Hi.  If I choose to download the netinst version, I assume I will be able to end with a console based installed - I don't want a GUI.
[22:29] <markp> Hey all -- an attempted upgrade from 14.04 to 16.04 botched my system.  Is this the right place to find some assistance? thanks
[22:29] <dbz2k1> @nicomachus I am using the firmware-b43-installer because propriety driver were being more buggy for me
[22:29]  * tgm4883 has a contract worth 13,000 hotdogs WITH buns
[22:29] <Jordan_U> n1md4: Yes, as long as you pay attention to the prompts you're given in the installer.
[22:29] <megamanz> can someone help me install flatabulos
[22:29] <nicomachus> n1md4: just choose the server iso. :)
[22:29] <hep7> tgm4883 your love for buggy os is immense
[22:29] <Kubius> dbz2k1: yeah, the bcmwl-kernel-source item can be problematic for specific Broadcom cards
[22:30] <megamanz> I'm following the github page and did these commands :sudo add-apt-repository ppa:tualatrix/ppa sudo apt-get update
[22:30] <tgm4883> hep7: being that all I've said to you is to point you to the offtopic chat, I'm going to mark you as a troll. Thanks
[22:30] <megamanz> But this command:sudo apt-get install ubuntu-tweak gives E: Unable to locate package ubuntu-tweak
[22:30] <dbz2k1> @kubius is there any bug reports for wifi suspend issues
[22:31] <Kubius> OK so
[22:31] <dbz2k1> it seems that network manager is causing some of the issues
[22:31] <hep7> tgm4883 that's you what you do
[22:31] <nicomachus> megamanz: you need to add a PPA for ubuntu tweak.
[22:31] <nicomachus> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-tweak
[22:31] <Kubius> do you have any wi-fi drivers installed at all
[22:31] <dbz2k1> it thinks it on ethernet sometimes
[22:31] <nicomachus> Kubius: no he doesn't: http://pastebin.com/V9zwGEu9
[22:31] <tgm4883> hep7: I'll gladly discuss anything you want in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:32] <hep7> tgm4883 well answer my questions I asked many times already
[22:32] <megamanz> nicomachus: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-tweak Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package ubuntu-tw
[22:32] <hep7> tgm4883 if you don't get paid by canonical
[22:32] <tgm4883> hep7: I've not been following the chat too long. What would that question be
[22:32] <Kubius> dbz2k1: If you can connect via ethernet, I recommend both removing and purging bcmwl-kernel-source, and THEN running firmware-b43-installer
[22:32] <hep7> I have 3 major bugs in 14.04
[22:32] <megamanz> nicomachus: After I installed 16.04 today I can't be able to install *any* PPA it seems like
[22:33] <dbarros> anyone knows of an app that is a session timer (makes the user logoff automatically after 45 minutes, for example...a guest account)...
[22:33] <zykotick9> n1md4: personally i'd choose mini for server but YMMV
[22:33] <zykotick9> s/for/over/
[22:33] <hep7> hidden files,  sound , usb peripherals
[22:33] <tgm4883> hep7: links?
[22:33] <tgm4883> hep7: ok, what is the question on hidden files?
[22:33] <hep7> they don't go away
[22:34] <tgm4883> hep7: what do you mean?
[22:34] <megamanz> why can't i install any PPA?
[22:34] <dbz2k1> @kibius I am connected to wifi, it just have suspend issues. also why aren't my drivers showing
[22:34] <dbz2k1> on the pastebin
[22:34] <mladoux> hep7, I would suggest tackling one issue at a time, rather than trying to take them all on at once, that, and provide more detail as to the issue.
[22:34] <hep7> tgm4883 the setting is not remembered
[22:34] <Kubius> dbz2k1: I'm not sure what's flukey with your setup
[22:34] <hep7> they keep showing
[22:34] <tgm4883> hep7: in nautilus? In command line? In dolphin?
[22:35] <hep7> nautilus
[22:35] <Kubius> I have a 4318 rev 2 chipset on my wi-fi card and according to a list I'm looking at everything in the 431x series works better with firmware-b43-installer
[22:35] <dbz2k1> @kibius configuration: broadcast=yes driver=b43 driverversion=4.4.0-21-generic firmware=666.2
[22:35] <hep7> not going to install dconf
[22:35] <tgm4883> hep7: have you tried opening nautilus from command line and seeing if there is any errors when you disable it?
[22:35] <StarHeart> Anyone seen an issue with 16.04 where NetworkManager is running your dns through dnsmasq and you can't resolve your own domain?
[22:35] <Kubius> I suggest trying to purge bcmwl-kernel-source just in case, then installing firmware-b43-installer
[22:36] <Kubius> then rebooting and giving it a whirl
[22:36] <hep7> tgm4883 no
[22:36] <tgm4883> hep7: try that
[22:36] <dbz2k1> @kubius Package 'bcmwl-kernel-source' is not installed, so not removed
[22:36] <zykotick9> megamanz: note, all the PPA's will need to be updated for 16.04..  just sayin'
[22:36] <Kubius> dbz2k1: that's OK, just had to make sure
[22:37] <megamanz> zykotick9: How?
[22:37] <megamanz> Developers have to update?
[22:37] <Kubius> so uh..... anyone else happen to have knowledge about i8k? I'd really like to make sure my CPU doesn't overheat from an unknown lack of fan control
[22:37] <nicomachus> megamanz: yes, but I believe Tweak has been updated.
[22:37] <zykotick9> megamanz: yes, the people in charge of the PPA
[22:37] <tgm4883> Kubius: it's been a LONG time since I dealt with i8k stuff
[22:37] <megamanz> can anyone try to install tweak on 16.04?
[22:38] <StarHeart> megamanz: tweak?
[22:38] <citizenruin> <--is looking for information on the correct partitioning scheme for a 500gb hdd and suggestion on what flavor of ubuntu to run for (desktop, plex, coding use.)?
[22:38] <citizenruin> forgot vm use also
[22:38] <nicomachus> megamanz: actually, now that I look, there is no Xenial version of the PPA.
[22:38] <tgm4883> megamanz: their PPA hasn't been updated for 16.04
[22:38] <megamanz> ah dang it
[22:38] <dbz2k1> @kubius dumb question when I resume from sleep wifi connects, but it can't see other networks on the list and thinks its on an Ethernet connection. is that an network manager issue?
[22:38] <apes> What is the right way to change the sequence number for a SysV init script? I'm thinking of this right now: "update-rc.d foo remove; update-rc.d foo defaults NN"
[22:39] <megamanz> what's good themes for 16.04?
[22:39] <Kubius> dbz2k1: entirely possible
[22:39] <Kubius> I'd recommend installing the firmware-b43-installer thing if you don't have non-generic drivers for it, though
[22:39] <nicomachus> megamanz: yep, 404's on that PPA on xenial. Sorry. Keep checking on it, they'll get around to it soon I'm sure. That's a pretty popular package.
[22:40] <megamanz> nicomachus: Alright thanks, any tips on other good themes? I'm bored today so wanna just set up some themes
[22:40] <dbz2k1> @kubius restarting this fixes my issue network-manager.service
[22:40] <nicomachus> I like paper GTK with Numix circle icons. but I'd suggest #rice on the Rizon network or reddit.com/r/unixporn for ideas. not really on-topic here.
[22:40] <Ryu945> how do i tell ubuntu to do a full install of a program.  After I install a program and then remove it.  It doesn't create everything it created in the first install
[22:41] <Ryu945> when i install it again
[22:41] <markp> hi all... can anyone help with a botched upgrade attempt? thanks
[22:41] <megamanz> Anyway, I have dual screens and I have set one monitor as main, but new windows still open at the other monitor. How can I fix that? Had same problem at 15.04
[22:42] <Jordan_U> Ryu945: What program specifically? What isn't being created?
[22:42] <Kubius> @tgm4883 when I try to run i8kmon I get an error of "No support for device type: power_supply     while executing"
[22:42] <Jordan_U> !ltsupgrade | markp
[22:42] <Jordan_U> markp: How did you try to upgrade?
[22:42] <pijinn> why is the upgrade delayed so long? so servers won't get swamped?
[22:43] <Ryu945> Jordan_U: playonlinux.  It only made the file that goes in home on the first install
[22:43] <deadmund> Anyone know why I can't play WMV files even though I have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed?
[22:43] <markp> jordan_U: sudo update-manager -d (from 14.04)
[22:44] <Jordan_U> Ryu945: OK, you've told me what is created. What isn't created?
[22:44] <xangua> deadmund: did you try VLC?
[22:44] <Jordan_U> deadmund: How are you trying to play them? What happens when you do?
[22:44] <tgm4883> Kubius: what's the output of "dmesg | grep i8k"
[22:45] <deadmund> xangua: yes, it simply refuses to play the file (open the file, it goes to the playlist, no playing)  Clicking play does nothing.
[22:45] <Jordan_U> markp: And what happened?
[22:45] <Kubius> tgm4883: [    6.297130] i8k: unable to get SMM Dell signature
[22:45] <Ryu945> Jordan_U: on the first install it created a folder in home directory with a bunch of files.  that folder got deleted.  On the second install, it did not put it in.  It expected it to already be there
[22:45] <Kubius> same message that comes up post BIOS splash screen
[22:45] <tgm4883> Kubius: hmm, that's probably not good. Which dell?
[22:45] <Kubius> that I have to click past
[22:45] <Kubius> it's an inspiron 530
[22:45] <Kubius> (non-S, full width)
[22:45] <deadmund> Jordan_U: xangua in the terminal there are no errors.  I've also tried dragon player (Jordan_U see my previous comment)
[22:46] <markp> jordan_U: strangely it said 15.10 was available, but not 16.04, so I went ahead with 15.10, then it froze after 2 hours or so.
[22:46] <nicomachus> the dreaded 14.04 -> 15.10 upgrade...
[22:46] <Kubius> tgm4883: this only started happening after I did an update, that appeared to include some kernel things
[22:47] <megamanz> I have dual screens and I have set one monitor as main, but new windows still open at the other monitor. How can I fix that? Had same problem at 15.04
[22:47] <tgm4883> Kubius: which version of ubuntu
[22:47] <deadmund> dragon player won't even put it in the playlist Jordan_U xangua  Any ideas as to what is wrong?   I was able to play wmvs just a few days / weeks ago.  This is 14.04.4  if it matters (kubuntu)
[22:47] <slade--> Jordan_U: it failed.. :(
[22:47] <slade--> Jordan_U: sad.. i thought we had it too
[22:47] <xangua> markp: backup and reinstall
[22:48] <Kubius> tgm4883: Lubuntu 15.04
[22:48] <Ryu945> Jordan_U: ???
[22:49] <nicomachus> deadmund: catch me up: VLC wouldn't play a wmv file? no errors show when opening VLC from terminal?
[22:49] <xangua> Kubius: 15.04 is no longer supported
[22:49] <markp> xangua: I am backed up, but I was hoping not to have to do a fresh install
[22:49] <Kubius> well hell
[22:49] <Kubius> how do I fix it then
[22:49] <nicomachus> !15.04 | Kubius
[22:49] <deadmund> nicomachus: Correct, ubuntu 14.04.4 and I have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed.  I've also tried dragon player and it too cannot play wmv files.
[22:49] <Kubius> !eolupgrade
[22:49] <nicomachus> deadmund: VLC *should* be able to play it. Are you sure the file is good?
[22:50] <deadmund> nicomachus: I am very sure the file is good.  I have several, I've watched them many times before and now all .wmv cannot be played on VLC or dragon.  What else could be wrong?  Audio codecs perhaps?
[22:50] <Yeehawlerz101> vlc  should be able to play it since it can play broken files
[22:50] <Mister> some one should tell her Lee' left the building in the 1860s, SMS record How#how;
[22:51] <Kubius> well
[22:51] <Kubius> I'm gonna go upgrade this
[22:51] <Kubius> may be back later
[22:51] <Kubius> bye
[22:51] <nicomachus> deadmund: what about converting it?
[22:51] <markp> xangua: is there a way to reinstall from command line? Ctrl-Alt-F1 still works, but not Ctrl-Alt-F7
[22:51] <greengob> sudo apt-get --reinstall install
[22:52] <greengob> I prefer sudo apt-get --purge --reinstall install.
[22:52] <deadmund> nicomachus: Can you be more specific?  use vlc to decode it?
[22:52] <deadmund> nicomachus: I mean, use vlc to *transcode* it??
[22:52] <nicomachus> deadmund: I mean using VLC to transcode to .mp4 or something.
[22:52] <nicomachus> yea
[22:53]  * zykotick9 would try "sudo apt-get -f install" <- markp beware greengob replies...
[22:53] <nicomachus> deadmund: but first, what version of ffmpeg are you using? (ffmpeg --version)
[22:53] <greengob> transcoding with VLC is kinda flaky
[22:53] <citizenruin> if i split my 500gb hdd into / - 30gb, /swap - 12gb, /home 258gb, will 200gb be enough a few vms?
[22:53] <deadmund> nicomachus: I don't have ffmpeg cause I'm using ubuntu 14.04.4 they renamed it to avconv  I don't have it installed.  Should I??
[22:54] <pauljw> citizenruin, yes
[22:54] <greengob> avconv and ffmpeg are very simular in command line options.
[22:54] <deadmund> greengob: they're basically the same, yes
[22:54] <Jordan_U> deadmund: Please pastebin the output of "vlc /path/to/file.wmv".
[22:55] <deadmund> Jordan_U: Can I paste in the channel?  It's 4 lines
[22:56] <deadmund> using VLC to convert (I used the gui) produced a very small binary file that cannot be played by it or dragon.  I converted it to h.264 + mp3 (it didn't work)
[22:56] <Jordan_U> deadmund: No, four lines is still too much.
[22:56] <greengob> I have a bash script I wrote that will broadcast your desktop, or a webcam image as an html page. sometimes I use ffmpeg to create alot of desktop movies.
[22:57] <deadmund> Jordan_U: Output from vlc /path/to/that/file.wmv   http://pastebin.com/GREeaPfM
[22:57] <TJ-> nicomachus: figured it out I think. the asus_wmi driver have the KEY_{BRIGHTNESS{DOWN,UP},DISPLAYTOGGLE,TOUCHPAD_ON} etc actions *but* on this Asus T300chi the keys are all on the external docking bluetooth keyboard, which is on another input, and issues EV_REL code X value Y events which aren't mapped. Not sure if it is possible to map them together
[22:58] <Jordan_U> deadmund: You need to replace "/path/to/file" with the actual path to the .wmv file.
[22:58] <citizenruin> will the ubuntu installer be able to allow me to set these partitions or must i use another means?
[22:58] <squinty> deadmund,  you need to replace path/to/file/file  with the actual path and name of your wmv file
[22:58] <deadmund> Jordan_U: I did.  I gave a valid path.  It shows up in VLC
[22:58] <markp> zykoyick9: after "sudo apt-get -f install" it fails, with errors with initctl, insserv, update-rc.d etc.
[22:59] <nicomachus> TJ-: see, you didn't need my help at all!
[22:59] <pauljw> citizenruin, the installer will allow it, choose "other" on the partitioning screen.
[22:59] <citizenruin> pauljw: thanks sir.
[22:59] <TheFocus> stupid question:  i'm running kubuntu 15.10 and the uprade to 16.04 says its a ubuntu release...  will this change it over to ubuntu or is ubuntu the base operating system and kubuntu wtill still be an overlay - not sure if that makes snense.
[22:59] <pauljw> citizenruin, yw
[22:59] <citizenruin> sometimes it just says ubuntu there thefocus
[23:00] <Jordan_U> deadmund: Please pastebin the output of "avprobe /path/to/file.wmv".
[23:00] <TJ-> nicomachus: the help gave me clues, took me a while to figure out the issue though :) trying to find a way to link the two, now
[23:00] <deadmund> Jordan_U: I didn't have that package so hang on a second while I isntall it and try.
[23:01] <greengob> enjoy all, gotta go.
[23:01] <deadmund> Jordan_U:  http://pastebin.com/scDeypaX
[23:02] <deadmund> DRM protected stream, "decoding will likely fail!"  :P
[23:03] <Jordan_U> deadmund: You'll need to find a way around the DRM.
[23:04] <lolusux> hello i just upgraded to ubuntu 16.04 and my laptop doesnt wakeup from sleep and i have to hard reboot, any help?
[23:04] <deadmund> Jordan_U: What does that mean?  Why can Ubuntu not play the file this week but it was fine 2 months ago?  Do you have any ideas?  /me googles
[23:04] <Jordan_U> deadmund: What software were you playing it with before?
[23:05] <deadmund> Jordan_U: VLC!
[23:06] <megamanz> i downloaded icon pack .deb file and ubuntu software is saying that it's third party and won't let me install, any tips?
[23:07] <deadmund> Also, potentially related, when I watch youtube videos with VLC the color alignment is off.  Any ideas about that?    The problems came about together.
[23:08] <nicomachus> TJ-: duct tape.
[23:09] <squinty> megamanz,  might want to try gdebi (install it from repo's)
[23:09] <dean_> Hi everyone! Finally install 16.04
[23:10] <zykotick9> megamanz: my recommendation, don't install DEBs from random places... ymmv
[23:10] <TJ-> nicomachus: it may come to that :) there are no udev events, no acpi events, they are just plain key events on the BT keyboard input node, so not sure how to handle it
[23:11] <megamanz> squinty: How do I do that?
[23:11] <megamanz> zykotick9: It's flataboulus icon pack
[23:11]  * zykotick9 has NO idea what that is/or means... but sticks buy the "don't install DEBs from random places" ;)
[23:11] <squinty> megamanz,  in terminal type the following   sudo apt install gdebi
[23:12] <megamanz> squinty: And now?
[23:13] <squinty> megamanz, after install is finished, right click on the deb in your file manager and select  open with gdebi
[23:13] <megamanz> squinty: Thanks!
[23:13] <Jordan_U> markp: Boot from an Ubuntu 16.04 LiveCD/USB and re-install.
[23:13] <squinty> megamanz,  yw
[23:14] <nicomachus> deadmund: when I was asking what version of ffmpeg you had, I was looking at this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/568987/vlc-unable-to-play-wmv
[23:14] <nicomachus> that top answer could be helpful.
[23:14] <deadmund> nicomachus: thanks!
[23:15] <markp> Jordan_U: will my files remain on my hard drive?
[23:16] <nicomachus> deadmund: so, check and see if you have that 56 branch of libavcodec, but you probably don't. A full purge and reinstall of VLC and ubuntu-restricted-extras may resolve it.
[23:17] <deadmund> nicomachus: I'm trying the purge now.  I don't have 56  the only branch in 14.04.4 is 54
[23:17] <megamanz> faltabulous looks sick!
[23:17] <megamanz> flatabulous*
[23:17] <deadmund> nicomachus: I wish I could check mime types / conflicts
[23:17] <zfsnut> hi, I had a RAIDZ2 zpool on my old computer, and now I've got all of the drives (ZFS intact on all of them) in my new computer - how can I recreate the zpool on my new computer from the drives? all of the drives are seen by zdb...
[23:18] <Ryu945> i think i found a bug in the ubuntu wiki.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[23:18] <Ryu945> it is calling 14.04.2 and 14.04.3 Trusty when their names are Utopic and Vivid
[23:19] <Ryu945> as shown here  http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/Rilasci/PointRelease?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=kernel14.04.x.png
[23:19] <nicomachus> Ryu945: 14.04.2 and 14.04.3 are both called Trusty.
[23:19] <Slade> Jordan_U, huh so it failed to shutdown properly, but it came right back up after a hard reboot.. strangest upgrade ever.. Thanks so much for your assistance
[23:20] <nicomachus> Ryu945: Utopic and Vivid are 14.10 and 15.04, respectively. They are both EOL, so aren't listed on the release page.
[23:20] <Ryu945> NickG365: oh
[23:20] <alu> upgrading to 16.04 from 15.10 broke my cuda installation
[23:20] <ToeSnacks> I just complete the upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 and after restarting following the install the screen is alternating every 2 seconds between black and displaying ^[[26~ in the top left of the screen. Does anyone know what I can do to at least get a login prompt?
[23:21] <alu> is 16.04 using cuda 7.5
[23:22] <megamanz> squinty: You know why every new window for all apps opens on other monitor but not my main monitor?
[23:22] <Jordan_U> Slade: You're welcome. Out of curiosity, what is the contents of /proc/self/mountinfo after the upgrade?
[23:23] <FManTropyx> so, is 16.04 named Xenophobic?
[23:23] <nicomachus> xenial xerus
[23:24] <Slade> Jordan_U, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5925946a226d6bbe812122a33ff5435e
[23:24] <Term1nal> nicomachus: 14.04 is EOL?
[23:24] <nicomachus> Term1nal: no... not until April 2019
[23:24] <Slade> Jordan_U, they look saner
[23:24] <mbff> Hello! I am trying to create a systemd startup script however I keep running into a pub key error. https://gist.github.com/marshallford/f0a91b08aa42d81f7e5b0739166abb25
[23:25] <Term1nal> nicomachus: well you just said it was EOL :D so that seemed a bit misleading
[23:25] <nicomachus> Term1nal: I said 14.10 and 15.04
[23:26] <Term1nal> oh, I read it as 14.04 :D
[23:26] <Term1nal> derp
[23:26] <deadmund> nicomachus: no luck :(
[23:27] <mota> so I have been doing a little reading about Ubuntu Core (Snappy). Is that currently cloud only? How realistic would it be for regualr desktop use?
[23:29] <Jordan_U> mota: The convenience and isolation (from one thing accidentally breaking another) appears to be there. The security benefits from isolation aren't there for GUI apps, it's as if that additional isolation weren't there at all (like non snappy apps). I don't think many Desktop snaps are available, but you could certainly release your own.
[23:30] <zfsnut> holy cow - nevermind, all I did was startup my new computer, installed zfs (rebooted), and zfs already picked up all of the previous drives in the pool, recreated the pool exactly how it was, and already mounted it for me! ZFS is awesome!!!
[23:30] <mota> for the moment I see the snap paradigm as being primarily about stability, with security benefits perhaps down the road
[23:33] <alu> how does one install cuda on 16.04
[23:33] <alu> sudo apt-get install nvidia-cuda-dev is 7.5
[23:34] <Jordan_U> Slade: Indeed. Would you like to try getting rid of your separate /boot/ then?
[23:34] <ToeSnacks> How do I force Ubuntu to start without x
[23:35] <zykotick9> ToeSnacks: disable whatever DM you are using...  good luck.
[23:35] <Jordan_U> ToeSnacks: Select the "Recovery Mode" option from the "Advanced options for Ubuntu" submenu at the grub menu.
[23:36] <Jordan_U> ToeSnacks: If you're not seeing the grub menu at boot then either hold shift down (for a BIOS based system) or spam the escape key (for a UEFI based system).
[23:36] <zykotick9> Jordan_U: ahhh... are you sure about that?  won't that put you in "root" mode or something?
[23:36] <Jordan_U> zykotick9: Indeed it would, good point.
[23:37] <Jordan_U> ToeSnacks: You probably don't want recovery / single user mode after all.
[23:37] <ToeSnacks> Ok cool, what do I want?
[23:38] <ToeSnacks> I am in recovery mode now lol
[23:38] <ToeSnacks> Trying failsafe x
[23:38] <Jordan_U> ToeSnacks: Why don't you want to start X?
[23:39] <zykotick9> ToeSnacks: don't try to start xorg from recovery mode!
[23:40] <ToeSnacks> Because my computer won't start anymore after upgrading to 16.04 and I want to see if it's my video driver crashing which is the cause
[23:40] <zykotick9> ToeSnacks: and "lscpi | grep -i vga" is?
[23:40] <dsfdsf> hi, updating from 14.04 to 16.04, booted from stick(live), i get splash screen, then mouse, but top of screen reads "A start job is running for Ubuntu live CD installer (2min 2s / no limit)"...and is hung there counting away the seconds
[23:41] <ToeSnacks> Not sure how I would get you that info if the computer won't start
[23:41] <zykotick9> ToeSnacks: i thought you said you where in recovery?  sorry never mind.  best of luck to you.
[23:41] <ToeSnacks> The recovery menu
[23:41] <zykotick9> ahhh
[23:42] <Wolfgang_Rudolf> i had issues with apport-gtk it generates a error log and then crashes, and because it's apport it does a vicious cycle
[23:43] <zykotick9> ToeSnacks: _sounds_ to me like Jordan_U's origional suggestion is correct in this case... my bad...
[23:45] <ToeSnacks> Alright I got in to a terminal
[23:45] <ToeSnacks> I don't think it's x
[23:45] <zykotick9> ToeSnacks: and "lscpi | grep -i vga" is?
[23:46] <zykotick9> ToeSnacks: the *real* question is... do you see ATI/AMD in above output?
[23:46] <uofm49426> what is the xubuntu chanel  cant be found
[23:46] <ToeSnacks> If I get into recovery and then select resume I can get into the graphical login screen no problem but I get kicked back when I log in
[23:46] <ToeSnacks> And no i use an nvidia and Intel card
[23:46] <win32> Hello here..
[23:47] <win32> Why can view at my utb.. my mouse.icon ?
[23:47] <ToeSnacks> It's a discreet system in a laptop, the kind you need to use bumblebee with
[23:47] <markp> Jordan_U: if I boot from 16.04 LiveDVD, will my hard drive files remain?
[23:48] <zykotick9> ToeSnacks: ok <- about non-ati.  if you can get back to a terminal, try "ls -l /home/YOURUSER/.Xauthority" <- _if_ it has root as owner/group that _is_ a problem... if not... it's something else.  good luck.
[23:48] <isaac> hey
[23:48] <Jordan_U> markp: If you pay careful attention while installing you can keep your existing /home/. As always though, you should have good backups.
[23:48] <isaac> im making a ubuntu based distro
[23:48] <isaac> any ideas for programs?
[23:49] <josephcvega> Um hello?
[23:49] <isaac> hey
[23:49] <josephcvega> Can anyone here help me with something
[23:49] <isaac> shure
[23:49] <isaac> what?
[23:50] <markp> Jordan_U: And the LiveDVD boot can fix a botched upgrade? I do have everything backed up.
[23:50] <Jordan_U> isaac: That's more of an #ubuntu-offtopic question.
[23:50] <catbeard> is there specific documentation for Ubuntu Server regarding mode 6 bonding options?
[23:50] <josephcvega> Well my laptop is not detecting any internet connections, I'm right next to my router but it finds nothing
[23:50] <Jordan_U> markp: "fix" in that re-installing will get you a newly installed and presumably working system, yes.
[23:51] <catbeard> other than https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBonding
[23:51] <ToeSnacks> What is fail whale?
[23:51] <catbeard> like a practical example or tutorial
[23:51] <ragay> hi
[23:51] <win32> Lol
[23:51] <markp> Jordan_U: Okay thanks, will try.
[23:51] <win32> Why its hidden a mouse icone
[23:51] <catbeard> josephcvega: step away from the router
[23:51] <ragay> how to play HL on lunix
[23:52] <catbeard> bring your device with you
[23:52] <win32> I cant view.. :O
[23:52] <josephcvega> Ok
[23:52] <catbeard> change broadcast channel to whatever has the best reception where you'd like to have it placed using Wifi Analyzer on Android
[23:52] <Jordan_U> markp: You're welcome.
[23:52] <catbeard> by farproc, might also be one for iOS
[23:53] <ToeSnacks> zykotick9: xauthority is owned by my user so it isn't that
[23:53] <zykotick9> ToeSnacks: ummm...  i have no further suggestions sorry.  best of luck!
[23:53] <Jordan_U> josephcvega: Please pastebin the output of "lspci -vnn".
[23:53] <ToeSnacks> Alright thanks for trying
[23:53] <ToeSnacks> I see some critical errors in the syslog
[23:54] <bobdobbs> I can no longer update ubuntu 14.04. When I run 'apt-get dist upgrade' the terminal freezes after the message "initctl: Unkown jon mysql'
[23:55] <bobdobbs> After the freeze I close the terminal window. After that I have to delete lock files to attempt to run apt-get operations again
[23:55] <bobdobbs> All apt-get operations I've run fail with that same error
[23:56] <ElAleph> I'm trying to install my Epson L355 inkjet printer
[23:56] <ElAleph> driver: epson-inkjet-printer-201207w
[23:56] <ElAleph> Ubuntu 16.04 Xenial
[23:56] <ElAleph> error: Depends: lsb (>=3.2) but it is not installable
[23:56] <bobdobbs> In an attempt to get rid of that error I attempted to purge mysql in order to reinstall it. But when trying to purge it, I got that initctl error again: "unknown job"
[23:59] <megaman> how do you make monitor at right as main monitor?
[23:59] <squinty> bobdobbs,  seems like there a quite a few google hits when searching for that error.  might want to take a look at  http://askubuntu.com/questions/525912/error-installing-mysql-server-on-ubuntu-14-04