[00:00] <quidnunc> ikonia: brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 0 Dec  6 15:54 /dev/sda
[00:00] <quidnunc> brw-rw---- 1 root disk 8, 1 Dec  6 15:54 /dev/sda1
[00:00] <ikonia> quidnunc: ok, last thing, can you run sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda in a pastebin please
[00:02] <quidnunc2> ikonia: Inside chroot?
[00:02] <ikonia> quidnunc2: outside please.
[00:04] <quidnunc> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9403789/
[00:05] <ikonia> quidnunc: that all looks fine,
[00:07] <EuaD> ikonia, currently i have /var/www/html/mythweb along with an index.html file
[00:07] <ikonia> EuaD: ok ?
[00:07] <EuaD> ikonia, i don't know where to store my video file
[00:08] <ikonia> in the document root on the web server
[00:08] <Baube> Thx guys, I'm copying my files from my ruined partitions ! I'll try to fix the table, but for now I see to folders copied on my External HD, feeling much better :D
[00:08] <EuaD> ikonia, i'm unfamiliar with where that is
[00:08] <shurtagul> I made a mistake.. I accidentally deleted most of my notifications in xubuntu's panel, is there a way to undo this, or get them back?
[00:08] <ikonia> EuaD: normaly dictated in the apache config
[00:09] <EuaD> shurtagul, try readding indicator plugin or notification area
[00:10] <shurtagul> EuaD, I searched Notification area in add new items, but it's greyed out and wont let me add it...
[00:11] <EuaD> ikonia, apache2.conf?  this is what was installed by default http://gyazo.com/fab64e1a89b38f5702b9c4ed18f21f7f
[00:13] <Bashing-om> shurtagul: I am not familiar with xubuntu, but does this exist : /home/<user>/.config/xfce4/panel/ ? If so you can delete that file and reboot. The file will be re-created to default values .
[00:13] <shurtagul> Oh, my notification are is still there, but my clock, and everything else is gone, I jsut installed xubuntu desktop, so I just want the defaults back
[00:14] <ikonia> EuaD: no, you need the site config
[00:14] <quidnunc> ikonia: So, any idea on why my mount table is screwed up
[00:14] <quidnunc> ?
[00:14] <ikonia> quidnunc: no, it's most odd
[00:14] <ikonia> quidnunc: I just did a test on mine and it worked fine
[00:16] <Rogy> Hello, I have a quick question I have around 50GB of text files , and I need to remove duplicate lines from them. How should I go about doing this?
[00:16] <ikonia> Rogy: have to work out a regex pattern matching for that
[00:17] <ikonia> Rogy: sed/cut/awk would then allow you to remove them
[00:17] <shurtagul> Thanks guys, I deleted the files & restarted xfce and it remade the defaults :)
[00:18] <quidnunc> ikonia: Alright, thanks anyway
[00:18] <Rogy> I was thinking about doing it like that, however I'm unsure if it would work across files. Aka there's a line with text "foo" in file1 and same line in file2.
[00:19] <Rogy> I'm starting to think I should maybe just load the files into a database and have each line be one row (since I'm only worried about identical rows) and do it like that.
[00:19] <EuaD> ikonia, there's sites-enabled and sites-available.
[00:19] <Bashing-om> shurtagul: Great ! : )
[00:20] <ikonia> EuaD: enabled would be logical for a site thats working
[00:20] <EuaD> ikonia, it's says it's a virtual host
[00:20] <ikonia> correct
[00:20] <EriC^^> Rogy: are they on seperate lines?
[00:21] <EuaD> ikonia, maybe i need to get to the basics here. where's a good tutorial for setting up a basic web server in xubuntu 14.04.1
[00:22] <ikonia> https://help.ubuntu.com
[00:23] <EriC^^> Rogy: sort -u /path/to/file
[00:23] <EriC^^> Rogy: it will rearrange the order though
[00:23] <Rogy> EriC^^: Order is not a problem
[00:25] <EriC^^> ok, sort -u /path/to/file > /new/file
[00:25] <Chuck_Norris> Rogy: for i in *.txt ; do awk '!($0 in array) { array[$0]; print }' $i > awked.$i ; done
[00:25] <Chuck_Norris> :p
[00:26] <EriC^^> ^^ that will keep the order btw
[00:26] <Chuck_Norris> xD yep
[00:27] <Rogy> Chuck_Norris: Hmm, will that remove duplicates across files? For example, if there's a line with text foo in file1, and there's a line with same text in file2, will it remove that line from file2?
[00:28] <Rogy> Chuck_Norris: (Hopefully that made sense, apologies if it's a bit confusing replacing sleep with coffee doesn't work always)
[00:28] <Chuck_Norris> i did a test recently and it worked like a charm, i did 2 archive with 4 lines where 2 of them duplicated, and it worked, it made
[00:29] <Chuck_Norris> Rogy: yes i will remove duplicate lines across files
[00:30] <Chuck_Norris> it* will
[00:30] <Rogy> Chuck_Norris: will try it now
[00:30] <EriC^^> Chuck_Norris: no it wont
[00:31] <EriC^^> Chuck_Norris: he means as if the files are concatenated and it's doing the awk on it
[00:31] <EriC^^> ( as if all the files are 1 )
[00:33] <Chuck_Norris> Rogy: EriC^^ is this ok?  http://i.imgur.com/udAehLk.png
[00:34] <Chuck_Norris> is that the result he spect?
[00:34] <EriC^^> nope
[00:35] <EriC^^> he wants if there is in test1 and test2 the same line it only leaves one
[00:35] <EriC^^> he could cat them and run awk then split them again
[00:35] <Rogy> Chuck_Norris: Yep, what EriC^^ said
[00:35] <EriC^^> or maybe use comm or something to get it done
[00:36] <EriC^^> comm can tell you which lines are in common between the two files
[00:36] <Rogy> Since I'm lazy I'll just shove it all into a database and run a query, seems to have least hassle. Thanks for the help anyways guys, much apprecieted :)
[00:37] <Chuck_Norris> oh! now i undertand, idk about comm but i think "uniq" does something like that too
[00:38] <alteregoa> i want to install vomiting vertigo, where can i get them?
[00:39] <xangua> !find vomiting
[00:39] <alteregoa> i can't remember those codenames sorry
[00:40] <alteregoa> vivid vanguard or something
[00:40] <xangua> !vivid
[00:40] <alteregoa> many thanks mrs xangua
[00:47] <Chuck_Norris> EriC^^: lo) for i in *.txt ; do sort -u $i > sorted.$i ; done
[00:48] <EriC^^> yeah that's the same though
[00:48] <EriC^^> it won't do it across files
[00:50] <hamizee> hi
[00:51] <hamizee> anyone out there to chat with?
[00:51] <Prezident> try #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:52] <hamizee> i am new to this place
[00:52] <hamizee> what is going on here
[00:52] <Prezident> This is help channel.
[00:52] <Prezident> #ubuntu-offtopic for chitchat.
[00:52] <hamizee> oh ok
[00:52] <OerHeks> good start to read a topic
[00:53] <hamizee> so all  questions are welcomed right?
[00:53] <hamizee> ok
[00:53] <hamizee> very new to linux
[00:53] <Prezident> If you need help yes, whats on your mind.
[00:54] <Prezident> depends client, but do /join #ubuntu-offtopic if you aint sure.
[00:59] <Chuck_Norris> EriC^^: for i in *.txt ; do awk '!($0 in array) { array[$0]; print }' $i | uniq $i > awked.$i ; done   -.-
[01:00] <Chuck_Norris> where is my cookie ? -.-
[01:00] <OerHeks> !cookie | Chuck_Norris
[01:00] <Chuck_Norris> xD
[01:00] <Chuck_Norris> ty OerHeks
[01:01] <Chuck_Norris> i'm out of practice i was good at that stuff xD
[01:02] <wtfangelx6> salut
[01:02] <EriC^^> Chuck_Norris: still the same
[01:02] <EriC^^> it's not across files
[01:02] <EriC^^> :P
[01:02] <MrSavage> what's the proper way to have tty8 (ctrl alt f8) have a GUI like tty7?
[01:02] <wtfangelx6> y'a des francais ?
[01:02] <MrSavage> I want to run games on tty8
[01:03] <EriC^^> Chuck_Norris: the uniq $i is returning the uniq lines of $i alone ( not checking if it's in other files or not )
[01:03] <EriC^^> Chuck_Norris: also uniq only works if it's a sorted file, you have to use sort first
[01:03] <codygman_> Ii'm helping a friend install Ubuntu and it looks like windows is taking up 5 partitions... 2 just for recovery... not sure what the others are. How can I figure out which one is safe to delete or live without?
[01:04] <guest92394> that looks like bad config
[01:04] <Frogg> Hello, I need help getting ubuntu installed on a UEFI device
[01:04] <guest92394> best just wipe hard drive and install from scratch
[01:04] <Frogg> I want to dual boot windows 8.1
[01:05] <codygman_> guest92394: That would work if he didn't want to dual boot
[01:05] <Chuck_Norris> EriC^^: got it
[01:05] <shurtagul> Is there a way to move icons in xfce panel's indicator plugin?
[01:05] <Frogg> I have an insignia flex windows tablet, and it runs full windows (x86 processor) I've tried many things, but cannot get it to boot the usb
[01:05] <shurtagul> It seems to be a bug, there's arrows, but they wont do anything, and I think other people have had the same problem
[01:06] <EriC^^> Chuck_Norris: i think it would be a headache to do it across files, you could check test1 vs test2, test1 vs test3, then test2 vs test3, or something, i'm sure there's a better way or something
[01:06] <EriC^^> Chuck_Norris: no idea
[01:06] <OerHeks> Frogg, sorry, x86 and UEFI will not work with ubuntu/linux
[01:06] <OerHeks> !uefi
[01:06] <squinty>  Frogg: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[01:06] <Bashing-om> codygman_: Required to know the partitoning scheme on the hard drive // MBR or GPT ? -> sudo parted -l <- from the liveDVD .
[01:07] <Frogg> The UEFI settings are very bare bones, and dont allow for disabling uefi. though i can disable secure boot and fast boot
[01:07] <Chuck_Norris> EriC^^: for sure awk could do that but, yeah you have to really know about awk and filters
[01:07] <codygman_> Bashing-om: gpt
[01:08] <Bashing-om> codygman_: Then with GPT you may have 128 partitions .
[01:09] <Frogg> squinty: i did that, though it still wont boot from the usb. it just boots windows
[01:10] <Bashing-om> !gpt | codygman_
[01:11] <MrSavage> I want to run games on tty8
[01:11] <MrSavage> what's the proper way to have tty8 (ctrl alt f8) have a GUI like tty7?
[01:11] <MrSavage> Also is it possible to have tty8 use a different driver?
[01:13] <Frogg> guest92394, how do i wipe the disk to install from scratch?
[01:14] <Frogg> just to clarify, it is a 64bit processor
[01:15] <xmetal> if you really want to go  that route of wiping out everything, I think the easist way is just let the Ubuntu install "wipe the entire drive" (close to that exact choice of words)
[01:15] <xmetal> during the partiting step
[01:15] <EriC^^> Frogg: you want to convert to gpt?
[01:15] <xmetal> if possible, i'd just advice to doulbe check you have all your stuff backed up first
[01:16] <Frogg> whatever gets me dual booting in the long run
[01:16] <xmetal> "just in case" / the "measure twice, cut once" thing
[01:16] <xmetal> whats one the drive now?
[01:17] <Frogg> i cant even access ubuntu, the usb doesnt boot. and since it's a new tablet, i dont really have anything to back up
[01:17] <xmetal> (note: * i have no experience with this UEFI stuff if it invloves that)  someone else in here could be more helpful in that case
[01:18] <xmetal> a) since its a tablet, someone other than me could be more useful :P ... B) thats what I did with my new (now a few years old) laptop .. i started doing dualboot type stuff BEFORE i put to much data that I could lose on it
[01:18] <shurtagul> Is there a way to move icons in xfce panel's indicator plugin?
[01:18] <EriC^^> shurtagul: right click then edit or something
[01:19] <shurtagul> EriC^^, yesh, I think there's a bug, the arrows do nothing
[01:19] <Frogg> basically, if you plug a mouse and keyboard into the tablet, it functions as a full windows 8 computer... that doesnt like booting usb...
[01:21] <shurtagul> I found a fix finally...
[01:21] <xmetal>  hopefully i am in the market before this toshiba dies on me but really ... i'd think i'd go with (for my next "PC type purchase") another laptop
[01:21] <shurtagul> I should try harder before I ask
[01:21] <EriC^^> shurtagul: try right click then panel properties
[01:21] <EriC^^> then items
[01:21] <shurtagul> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-indicator-plugin/+bug/1311606
[01:21] <xmetal> oops wrong channel for that
[01:21] <xmetal> sorry
[01:21] <shurtagul> It was a bug
[01:22] <EriC^^> shurtagul: cool
[01:33] <MrSavage> Can anyone explain to me why firefox is lagging when i scroll?
[01:35] <xmetal> "TOO MANY things running -vs too little ram?"
[01:35] <xmetal> too many tabs open maybe ..
[01:36] <An0nGrim> i have 2gb ram nd no probs... laptop basically kills itself with heat though lol
[01:36] <An0nGrim> www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JniVxr5zvw  <---This Kid Claimed to be the leader of Lizard Squad if you want more info pm me
[01:37] <creatorb> hello all
[01:37] <An0nGrim> hello
[01:39] <creatorb> i get error like  usb enumerate on port 7 when switch to cli mode (ctrl+alt+F1), can you help me to fix it?
[01:42] <MrSavage> xmetal: I got a high end PC
[01:42] <MrSavage> Can anyone explain to me why firefox is lagging when i scroll?
[01:43] <Mr-Potter> can you explain why you need to repeat this SOO many times
[01:43] <NinjaCowboy> MrSavage: Try disabling smooth scroll.
[01:44] <MrSavage> NinjaCowboy: Where's that option?
[01:44] <Sneaky> http://youtu.be/5JniVxr5zvw
[01:44] <Sneaky> http://youtu.be/5JniVxr5zvw
[01:44] <MrSavage> NinjaCowboy: The about:config option?
[01:44] <NinjaCowboy> Hold up. I'm finding it now.
[01:45] <Chuck_Norris> MrSavage: chek your process, maybe there is one process hogging 100% cpu
[01:45] <MrSavage> NinjaCowboy: yeah i got it, thanks it helped
[01:45] <MrSavage> Chuck_Norris: all 0%
[01:45] <Chuck_Norris> MrSavage: htop
[01:46] <MrSavage> Chuck_Norris: No it looks fine
[01:47] <MrSavage> Chuck_Norris: Also gnome-system-monitor is better 8^)
[01:48] <freeroute> hi all, I was wondering how I could get the latest tmux for Ubuntu. There only seems to be 1 PPA which has tmux, but I don't know if I can deem it as trustworthy - https://launchpad.net/~pi-rho/+archive/ubuntu/dev?field.series_filter=precise - would you deem this as trustworthy?
[01:48] <leonardo_> !list
[01:49] <energizer> Does anyone recognize this date format?:<PHONE_NUMBER>
[01:49] <rypervenche> freeroute: utopic has it.
[01:49] <freeroute> rypervenche: right, but I'm on 12.04
[01:50] <rypervenche> freeroute: It still may work if it doesn't require too many dependencies. Otherwise you can compile it from source and turn it into a deb package using checkinstall instead of make install.
[01:51] <freeroute> rypervenche: you mean enable 14.10's PPA on here?
[01:51] <freeroute> also when compiling, am I going to receive updates when I do apt-get update && apt-get updgrade ?
[01:51] <freeroute> *after compiling
[01:52] <rypervenche> freeroute: No, I mean grab the deb package from normal Ubuntu's Utopic repo. If you're getting the latests version, you won't be able to receive updates.
[01:52] <OerHeks> !info tmux precise
[01:53] <freeroute> OerHeks: as you can see it's only 1.6
[01:54] <OerHeks> utopic has 1.9-6
[01:54] <ichuot> hello
[01:54] <freeroute> OerHeks: do you think it's a good idea stability wise to install utopic's version on precice's version?
[01:55] <OerHeks> freeroute, no, maybe upgrade to 14.04 > 14.10 would be wise, instead of that ppa.
[01:58] <creatorb> hello, i get error like usb enumerate  │Aero-kun        │
[01:58] <creatorb> │on port 7 on cli mode, how to solve it? i have try some    ▒ │a-evol          │
[01:59] <creatorb> #sorry
[01:59] <creatorb> i mean i get error like usb enumerate on port 7, anyone can help me to fix it?
[02:00] <toothe> I hear that Ubuntu's search feature will send data back to Canonical?
[02:02] <daftykins> toothe: hear from where?
[02:02] <toothe> several sources, I don't have anything off-hand.
[02:03] <OerHeks> !shopping
[02:04] <toothe> this is only with unity? i use kde, kubuntu to be specific.
[02:04] <OerHeks> toothe, kde has no amazon lens AFAIK
[02:04] <toothe> ahh...
[02:04] <toothe> thanks!
[02:04] <OerHeks> unity only
[02:04] <OerHeks> yw
[02:07] <Madhusudhan> hi everybody..Just curious whether I can post my question and seek correction?
[02:08] <bubbasaures> Madhusudhan, that is how it works here, just state it.
[02:11] <Madhusudhan> babbsuares: Thanks for reconfirming. I have a script http://pastebin.com/75b1gaR8 which exactly replicates the logrotate function in linux based OS.
[02:12] <Madhusudhan> what I am trying to get is, I want to check add a line for checkign the default date=7 and if it is beyond 7 days then it needs to be deleted
[02:13] <Madhusudhan> how can I do it in ?
[02:15] <gr33n7007h> Madhusudhan, probably try in #bash
[02:15] <Madhusudhan> yeah, exactly this is what I am trying to: http://pastebin.com/75b1gaR8
[02:15] <Madhusudhan> Is there anything that I need to include?
[02:16] <gr33n7007h> Madhusudhan, Sorry, I ment ask in the #bash channel :)
[02:16] <daftykins> #bash would probably have been more relevant here
[02:16] <daftykins> ah snap
[02:16] <gr33n7007h> :)
[02:18] <Madhusudhan> I am looking for three things: 1. I should check the log file present in the directory, 2. if it is present then keep it till 7 days 3. once it is passed, it has to be compressed and create a new file with same name
[02:18] <MyNameIsMicrowav> hello!
[02:18] <Madhusudhan> I am trying figure out, but no luck :(
[02:19] <daftykins> Madhusudhan: we said ask in another channel.
[02:19] <Madhusudhan> oh, can you let me know the channel name?
[02:20] <Madhusudhan> thanks for forwarding to the right people
[02:20] <daftykins> Madhusudhan: two of us said it twice. read up.
[02:20] <Kruppe_> had we did this
[02:20] <alteregoa> is it possible to use swap on vram using zram-config?
[02:20] <OerHeks> i think you want logrotate, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-manage-log-files-with-logrotate-on-ubuntu-12-10
[02:21] <Kruppe_> i dont know if things would be better
[02:21] <Kruppe_> but it is a good question to pose about GNU
[02:21] <Kruppe_> and the connection that it has on linux
[02:21] <Kruppe_> ubuntu specifically
[02:22] <Kruppe_> one of my favorite aspects of the operating system is the package manager that it had equipped.
[02:23] <OerHeks> Kruppe_, please no monologs, do you have a support question?
[02:23] <MyNameIsMicrowav> i really like ubuntu!
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> !zram | alteregoa
[02:42] <MrSavage> hi all i'm having issues with Xorg. I switched using drivers to open and did Xorg -configure and started using that conf file but now my GUI won't boot up
[02:49] <DIL> hi
[02:50] <ubunaxe> So you know when you ssh into a box for the first time, it gives you an ECDSA fingerprint and asks if you want to continue to connect?
[02:50] <ubunaxe> How do I verify that ECDSA fingerprint?
[02:51] <velho> I've searched all over the internet for linux drivers and found none. I would like to know if I can connect this device to Linux: http://www.lindy-international.com/ExpressCard-FireWire-1394a-Karte-2-Port.htm?websale8=ld0101.ld020102&pi=51500  can anyone help me out? Thank you
[02:53] <SchrodingersScat> ubunaxe: found this: ssh-keyscan -t ecdsa localhost 2>&1 | grep ecdsa
[02:54] <ubunaxe> SchrodingersScat: so do I replace "localhost" with the box I want to ssh into?
[02:55] <ubunaxe> SchrodingersScat: actually, I just tried that, and it doesn't look like the fingerprint?
[02:56] <SchrodingersScat> ubunaxe: I ran it on the machine I was trying to confirm.
[02:56] <ubunaxe> SchrodingersScat: I mean when I see sometjhing like: The authenticity of host 'x (xxx.xxx.120.182)' can't be established. ECDSA key fingerprint is b6:ff:05:ex:25:4b:ad:ed:dd:3c:ea:81:89:97:c7:16.
[02:56] <ubunaxe> I want to know how I know that  b6:ff:05:ex:25:4b:ad:ed:dd:3c:ea:81:89:97:c7:16 is legit I guess?
[02:57] <daftykins> why would you doubt a machine you just set up?
[02:57] <ubunaxe> daftykins: A machine I'm connected to for the first time. How do I know I'm not being MITM'd?
[02:57] <daftykins> lol.
[02:57] <ubunaxe> *connecting
[02:57] <daftykins> you are amusing
[02:57] <D3V> is there a way to sort apps in unity by categories?
[02:58] <ubunaxe> daftykins: what do you normally do? just trust?
[03:00] <xangua> D3V in the apps scope you can see an option that says filter results in the top right
[03:00] <SchrodingersScat> doesn't sound unreasonable to me, idk how to get those digits though.
[03:00] <xangua> super+a
[03:00] <daftykins> ubunaxe: no, i just don't rock around with a paranoid mind
[03:01] <ubunaxe> daftykins: ok, so for the sake of argument, if you did have a paranoid mind, how would you verify?
[03:01] <ubunaxe> daftykins: do you know?
[03:06] <DIL> if he is that concerned locate the fingerprint key and make a note of it
[03:06] <daftykins> this user seems incapable of google so is asking how to do that, i believe... DIL
[03:07] <ubunaxe> DIL: I guess that's what I'm asking. Where does the fingreprint key come from?
[03:07] <ubunaxe> DIL: these digits the server sends back to me I mean?
[03:07] <ubunaxe> daftykins: It's ok if you don't know either :)
[03:10] <daftykins> ubunaxe: childish reverse psychology won't work here :)
[03:11] <DIL> how about searching ssh directory for a file with the word key
[03:12] <ubunaxe> DIL: so I've got a pretty typical ssh directory, which includes the private key of the box I'd like to log in to
[03:13] <ubunaxe> DIL: when you log in with that pem for the first time, you get the fingerprint and a prompt of whether you'd like to add it to known_hosts
[03:13] <ubunaxe> it seems pretty common to blindly say "yes" without looking
[03:13] <ubunaxe> tbh I've never really thought twice
[03:14] <ubunaxe> but under what scenario would I say "no" to that prommpt?
[03:14] <daftykins> is it not obvious?
[03:14] <ubunaxe> i'd imagine if the fingerprint was wrong. but I'm trying to figure out how to that make determination?
[03:14] <DIL> ubunaxe:the box you are connecting to - do you have physical acces
[03:14] <DIL> s
[03:14] <ubunaxe> DIL: not necessarily
[03:15] <ubunaxe> could be on ec2 for example
[03:15] <bharath> unable to update to ubuntu 14.04 from ubuntu 13.10, I am getting this message https://pastebin.mozilla.org/7816689 , can you please help me?
[03:16] <bubbasaures> bharath, That is a eol upgrade, any ppa or other 3rd party packages?
[03:17] <DIL> ubunaxe: so if you were trying to ssh to my box and you wanted to know if was indeed my box i guess i would have to provide it to you
[03:20] <bharath> bubbasaures, I disabled all ppas
[03:20] <bubbasaures> bharath, Disabling does not remove packages which may be the cause, a purge of the ppa will.
[03:21] <bubbasaures> !ppa-purge
[03:21] <ubunaxe> DIL: Ok. So in that scenario, how do you know what to provide?
[03:24] <bharath> bubbasaures, sorry for asking too many doubts, how to find out all ppa's?
[03:25] <bubbasaures> bharath, The links generally are in /etc/apt/sources.list.d  check your sources.list in the apt folder to.
[03:25] <bubbasaures> bharath, The software & updates gui 2nd tab will have a list as well
[03:26] <bubbasaures> thats easier to understand I think
[03:26] <bharath> bubbasaures, but I removed all the entries in sources.list before and tried do-release-upgrade
[03:26] <bharath> bubbasaures, but got the same error
[03:27] <bubbasaures> bharath, Removing does not remove the modified packages and reinstall the ubuntu repos packages.
[03:27] <bubbasaures> you have to purge a ppa to do this
[03:28] <Bashing-om> bubbasaures: bharath :: I do not know, but has the 13.10 repository been turn away >> now, requiring " old-releases.ubuntu.com " ??
[03:28] <bubbasaures> bharath, We are having to assume here this is an issue, and are really bogged down just in you getting it, so you understand.
[03:30] <bubbasaures> Bashing-om, I wondered if it is a true eol list upgrade, however we are kinda going at a snails pace, trying to just keep corralled, help is a good thing however. ;)
[03:30] <EuaD> it's funny how ubuntu removed owncloud from the repo's. can't they just patch the security leak and reupload it?
[03:30] <bubbasaures> EuaD, Ask them off topic here.
[03:35] <Bashing-om> bubbasaures: : ) . As you say revert all PPAs, that do include proprietary graphics driver, turn of any screen saver, and perhaps change the source list to " old-releases.ubuntu.com " , make sure " /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades ' is set properly. Then go for it.
[03:36] <bubbasaures> Bashing-om, I only say it is a possibility, we have a no record of them, a bit to far into my red flag x time computations
[03:38] <bubbasaures> bharath, I think Bashing-om is on the right track here, I just have a short time before having to take off is all. ;)
[03:38] <bharath> bubbasaures, this is the complete output of do-release-upgrade https://pastebin.mozilla.org/7817028
[03:38] <bharath> bubbasaures, okay :)
[03:38] <wpd> Does anybody know of a kernel level facility for "reboot on LAN", similar to the "Wake on LAN" facility?  I would like to be able to reboot my remote Ubuntu host (after having specifically enabled such a feature in the kernel or via some apt-get package.)
[03:39] <wpd> Of course, not having enabled this feature previously, I now need to physically reset the aformentioned Ubuntu host.  I would like to avoid that in the future, if posible.
[03:41] <Bashing-om> bubbasaures: I do : http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ ; I do not see 13.10 in the list. May I infer that now " old-releases.ubuntu.com " is now required to release upgrade ?
[03:43] <benmanifold> Hello
[03:43] <benmanifold> does anyone know a quick way to get a single desktop wallpaper image to span across multiple monitors with unity?
[03:46] <stoiker> I cannot login. I get the error: Xsession: warning: unable to write to /tmp; xsession may exit with an error
[03:48] <kreiger> HEy
[03:50] <kreiger> quit
[03:50] <benmanifold> \part
[03:52] <tizen> hello
[03:52] <langhun> hi@tizen
[03:52] <tizen> hello i am new here
[03:53] <Kruppe_> i dont know what to tell all of yo8u
[03:53] <Kruppe_> nothing in this room is ever all ubuntu
[03:54] <daftykins> it is and should be, as that's the topic here.
[03:54] <daftykins> !ot
[03:58] <stoiker> I cannot login. I get the error: Xsession: warning: unable to write to /tmp; xsession may exit with an error
[03:59] <juned> hi
[03:59] <ubunaxe> if anyone is wondering, here is how I generated the remote server's ssh fingerprint: "ssh-keygen -lf /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key_type.pub"
[03:59] <ubunaxe> easy enough
[04:01] <juned> hey guys anyone know what is problem with back track 5
[04:01] <juned> is not update not install any app not anything why
[04:02] <kostkon> !backtrack
[04:02] <juned> o.k
[04:02] <EuaD> hmmm, i restarted apache2 and i'm getting the "ServerName" is not set. but when I view /etc/apache2/apache2.conf i don't see that directive in there at all.
[04:02] <juned> thanks
[04:03] <juned> i am new to ubuntu where i am start to learn
[04:04] <cfhowlett> juned, go to backtrack.  backtrack is NOT ubuntu.
[04:08] <DoubleO7> /list
[04:11] <Kruppe_> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVP-hAXkgds
[04:11] <voidDotClass> I've just installed mint 17.1 on a laptop through liveusb, but now it no longer boots. when i turn it on, a black screen shows for a few seconds and then it turns off. previously it had windows 7.
[04:11] <voidDotClass> any ideas?
[04:12] <cfhowlett> !mint | voidDotClass
[04:12] <voidDotClass> This is not specific to mint.
[04:12] <guest82381> anybody know a irc network that does not log traffic/messages?
[04:12] <voidDotClass> The same thing would've probably happened with ubuntu
[04:12] <cfhowlett> voidDotClass, you want mint support.  this is not mint.  mint is not ubuntu.  go to mint for mint support.  for UBUNTU support, install ubuntu.
[04:13] <voidDotClass> this is not specific to mint, this is a boot issue
[04:13] <White_Light> lol
[04:13] <voidDotClass> i WILL install ubuntu if I can get the thing to boot
[04:13] <cfhowlett> voidDotClass, great.  we'll be here.
[04:14] <voidDotClass> stfu dickhead
[04:14] <cfhowlett> !ops | voidDotClass profantiy
[04:18] <velho> I've searched all over the internet for linux drivers and found none. I would like to know if I can connect this device to Linux: http://www.lindy-international.com/ExpressCard-FireWire-1394a-Karte-2-Port.htm?websale8=ld0101.ld020102&pi=51500  can anyone help me out? Thank you
[04:18] <cfhowlett> velho, i'd say you answered your own question ...
[04:19] <EuaD> guess i'll go talk in apache2
[04:21] <velho> cfhowlett, what do you mean?
[04:21] <voidDotClass> I cannot boot a machine after installing Ubuntu. It was loading previously with windows 7, but after installing, I see a blank screen when i boot, and then the laptop powers off
[04:21] <cfhowlett> velho, the page makes no mention of OEM support for linux.  you searched and found ... no support for linux.  so in answer to your question ...
[04:22] <cfhowlett> voidDotClass, you installed mint.  same as before, not supported here.
[04:22] <voidDotClass> I've now installed ubuntu and i'm having the same issue.  I'm not a linux pro...
[04:23] <cfhowlett> voidDotClass,  you installed ubuntu in the 5 minutes since your previous question?  FALSE.
[04:24] <voidDotClass> Then cry about it, I'm not talking to you.
[04:24] <cfhowlett> voidDotClass, lying about your system is not likely to get you assistance.  your nasty attitude aside, we're happy to help you with UBUNTU problems.  this isn't one.  get ubuntu and come back.
[04:25] <voidDotClass> I have ubuntu so stop trolling.
[04:25] <voidDotClass> Say something helpful or go away
[04:26] <squinty> voidDotClass: heh  how long have you been banned in linuxmint-help.  probably awhile give your attitude.  hope you realize their are ops just waiting for you to step over the line for a permanent ban
[04:26] <squinty> ahhh...to late. lol
[04:26] <velho> VoidWhisperer_, you may be having problems with the GRUB
[04:27] <velho> sorry, not to you VoidWhisperer_
[04:27] <Bashing-om> bharath: Any progress ?
[04:27] <cfhowlett> velho, I suppose it's possible to force linux to recognize your firewire device, but IDK how.  If you can, you're better off getting a supported device than trying to hack a non-linux friendly device.
[04:28] <blackyboy> Hi anyone there to help me to solve my unbound server issue ? I have setup a caching DNS resolver using unbound, In client machine i have added mu unbount server IP as DNS server now while i accessing some website from client side i can't get any web pages..
[04:29] <cfhowlett> !server | blackyboy might want to ask the experts ...
[04:29] <velho> cfhowlett, thank you, dear :D
[04:31] <bharath> Bashing-om, no
[04:31] <bharath> Bashing-om, sorry for late reply
[04:31] <squinty> velho:  maybe the ubuntu-studio rascals may have some tips/workarounds.  just a thought as I am not to sure if firewire is still popluar with the multimedia people these days or not.
[04:32] <bharath> Bashing-om, this is my sources.list https://pastebin.mozilla.org/7818142
[04:32] <Bashing-om> bharath: Have you to this time reverted all PPAs and removed the source list for them ?
[04:33] <Bashing-om> bharath: Look'n at your https://pastebin.mozilla.org/7818142 .
[04:33] <bharath> Bashing-om, I can't  find ppas in sources.lsit
[04:34] <EuaD> anyone here familiar enough with ubuntu and apache2? i can't figure out where to set the 'ServerName' directive.
[04:34] <hake> what is the ubuntu support for macbook air like? is it as easy as a typical pc laptop?
[04:34] <auscompgeek> bharath: ppas are usually listed in sources.list.d/
[04:35] <EuaD> hake, i'd check google and youtube. i'm not familiar
[04:35] <bharath> auscompgeek, all files in sources.list.d are ppas?
[04:36] <auscompgeek> bharath: not necessarily all, but most likely most, if not all
[04:36] <indistylo> Cairo dock with openGLis not working after I recently used "manager upgrade" in ubuntu , Kindly suggest the measures to restore it
[04:36] <Bashing-om> bharath: Do not think this "in.old-releases.ubuntu.com" is valid .. should be "old-releases.ubuntu.com" for the mirror.
[04:36] <juned> hi
[04:37] <squinty> bharath:  if you can run Software and Updates, you can turn on/off any external repo's including ppa's there by simplying clicking
[04:37] <indistylo> Cairo dock with openGLis not working after I recently used "manager upgrade" in ubuntu, it says openGL stopped working , Kindly suggest the measures to restore it
[04:37] <juned> i am beginner for Ubuntu where  i am start to learn
[04:37] <bharath> squinty, yeah I have disabled it
[04:37] <velho> squinty, were can i talk with those "rascals"? I need this to connect another firewire device, my laptop doesn't have firewire
[04:38] <juned> terminal code
[04:38] <cfhowlett> velho, join #ubuntustudio or #opensourcemusicians
[04:38] <juned> ?
[04:38] <cfhowlett> juned, install ubuntu
[04:38] <squinty> velho:  what cfhowlett said
[04:39] <juned> i don't n
[04:39] <aeon-ltd> !bash
[04:39] <velho> cfhowlett squinty , thanks! I thought this place would be better to ask that question, since it's not music related
[04:40] <aeon-ltd> juned: something like that?
[04:40] <juned> thanks
[04:41] <squinty> velho:  well as I say it's worth a try.. no guarantees though ;-)
[04:41] <hake> anyone dualboot ubuntu and osx? what was your experience like?
[04:41] <velho> juned have you installed ubuntu?
[04:42] <cfhowlett> !mac | hake,
[04:42] <velho> squinty, thanks mate ;)
[04:43] <Taconut> Hi! If I decided to run hungry phone on my Android, could I use it like a regular old linux computer?
[04:43] <velho> hake, I don't know about osx but in windows is very easy to setup a dualboot with ubuntu. I'm sure that with macs wouldn't be difficult...
[04:43] <Taconut> *ubuntu
[04:43] <guest92931> yooo
[04:44] <cfhowlett> Taconut, ask #android ...
[04:44] <Taconut> cfhowlett I can rephrase the question to be irrelevant to Android
[04:45] <cfhowlett> Taconut, this is ubuntu support.  your question has nothing to do with ubuntu ...
[04:45] <Taconut> Can ubuntu phone also function like a normal linux computer
[04:45] <cfhowlett> hake, more precisely, variables are which mac are you installing to and which ubuntu are you using ...
[04:46] <Taconut> My wording was weird
[04:46] <cfhowlett> !touch | Taconut
[04:46] <Taconut> Thanks!
[04:47] <modelengine> is it possible that when i uninstalled my nvidia drivers and purged them and then reinstalled, that it screwed something up? when i go to youtube and stuff it sometimes doesn't render the page normally. it more looks like a bunch of links scattered all over the place
[04:47] <guest92931> hey
[04:48] <EuaD> restarting apache2 i get the warning about not settting FQDN, anyone know how to fix it?
[04:49] <Guest29177> if it work dont fix it
[04:49] <modelengine> crappy
[04:49] <stoiker> I cannot login. I get the error: Xsession: warning: unable to write to /tmp; xsession may exit with an error
[04:50] <RedPenguin> Hey all
[04:50] <RedPenguin> Anybody know if it's normal, if you have an AMD 2.1GHZ Dual Core, for /proc/cpuinfo to say you have 2 1GHZ cores?
[04:51] <bubuntu> hi, I hear its possible to install ubuntu to my soekris router, but can the same thing be done with a commercial router like netcomm n300 400 etc ?
[04:51] <hake> RedPenguin: confusion is the 2 cores? or the 1GHZ?
[04:51] <cfhowlett> bubuntu, ??? source ???
[04:52] <RedPenguin> hake: the 1GHZ, my laptop which is 2.1Ghz Quad, says 2.1Ghz for all cores
[04:52] <modelengine> can anybody recommend a browser for ubuntu that doesn't have the awful plugin container that firefox has? it constantly crashes on me and ties up multiple cores for no reason at all
, u can add ServerName param to your virtual host config. but its only warning u dont need to "fix" it
[04:52] <cfhowlett> !browser | modelengine,
[04:53] <modelengine> cfhowlett, thanks
[04:53] <hake> RedPenguin: what does "lscpu" say?
[04:54] <cfhowlett> modelengine, happy2help
[04:54] <techrat> What's the best video player for ubuntu?
[04:54] <epyx> hey guys, a dual graphic card is it or is it not supported?
[04:54] <epyx> I have never gotten it to work
[04:54] <modelengine> -reisio-, yeah and the flash plugin crashes all the time
[04:54] <cfhowlett> techrat, there is no "best" anything.  try them and choose one for yourself.  it's subjective
[04:54] <epyx> it says installed however rendering isn't quicker than running on the default drivers
[04:54] <modelengine> -reisio- cool thanks for the info
[04:54] <RedPenguin> hake: sakme
[04:54] <RedPenguin> same*
[04:55] <techrat> cfhowlett: Yeah, but I am looking for starting point
[04:55] <epyx> I have an ATI Radeon 7330M dualed with an Intel HD 4000
[04:55] <epyx> *7730
[04:55] <cfhowlett> techrat, open software center.  search for browsers.  install.  test. choose.
[04:56] <stoiker> I cannot login. I get the error: Xsession: warning: unable to write to /tmp; xsession may exit with an error
[04:56] <EuaD> mortymer, ok, thanks
[04:56] <techrat> cfhowlett: Any recommendation?
 its normal. your proc can work in 2 modes. i
[04:56] <cfhowlett> techrat, that was the recommendation.
[04:57] <RedPenguin> mortymer: thanks, just never saw results like that for any multi-core CPU though others report the same processor giving same results
[04:58] <Guest94592> hello
 you can load your cpu with somthing havy, like infinit loop and check couinfo while its running. cpu will switch himself to fastest mode, and cpuinfo will show 2ghz
[05:02] <munsterman> somehow i have 2 ip's with one NIC. I have done nothing to set up 2 ip's. my interfaces file is set up for static. where is this second ip coming from? any google search comes up with how to get 2 ip's going, and none of my files look like examples. im so lost. and green, be gentle. any help?
 sry my english
[05:03] <Guest94592> I hava a problem with my ubuntu ~
[05:03] <cfhowlett> !ask | Guest94592
[05:04] <Guest94592> ubuntu can't  recogniz usb
[05:04] <Guest94592> recognize
[05:04] <RedPenguin> mortymer: you were right, it's due to AMD's Cool'n'Quiet, using a "watch" command, you can see speed jump on higher loading stuff
[05:05] <juned> how to close full screen
[05:07] <squinty> juned:  hover over the left hand side of the top panel on your screen.  you should see menu items displayed there
[05:07] <cfhowlett> Guest94592, try a different usb
[05:09] <owen1> my laptop's scren is off after it's inactive for a few minutes. how to cancel that feature? i have 'don't suspend' in power settings. (i have ubuntu-desktop but i use i3)
[05:10] <squinty> owen1: brightness and lock  in system settings > dim screen  etc etc
[05:11] <DoubleO7> anyone here?
[05:11]  * epyx points at 1688 users
[05:12]  * epyx points at recent activity
[05:12] <epyx> nope dude, I think you're all alone
[05:12] <cfhowlett> !hello | DoubleO7
[05:12] <owen1> squinty: thanks. it was on '1 hour'. i changed to 'never'. we'll see if it works
[05:13] <DoubleO7> somone teach me IRC comands
[05:13] <cfhowlett> !irc | DoubleO7 (for future reference ... courtesy counts.  A LOT.)
[05:15] <Guest94592> two usb3.0   one usb2.0  all can't recognize
[05:15] <DoubleO7> Thank you, sorry for the inconvenience. I  didn't actually think anyone was on here
[05:15] <squinty> DoubleO7:  what cfhowlett  said.  might also want to check out http://toxin.jottit.com/xchat_help_commands
[05:15] <majdi> hello everyone
[05:16] <Guest94592> some days ago  ,usb can be recognize
[05:17] <DoubleO7> hello
[05:17] <squinty> Guest94592:  just a quick note as I am heading out.   unplug and replug the usb stick.  in terminal type   dmesg   and take a look at the very last of the output.  that will tell you if the usb stick is being recognized or not.
[05:17] <DoubleO7> \list
[05:18] <squinty> Guest94592:  if it is being recognized then see what the   Disks  program (in your main menu) says.  if listed you can mount the stick from there.
[05:20] <juned> hey guys how to active chat
[05:20] <cfhowlett> juned, you're chatting now ...
[05:21] <bonsar> hi
[05:21] <juned> so what is direct chat in windows option
[05:25] <bonsar> where can I download latest Wine?
[05:25] <LemonSqueeze> Hi, I just bought a windows game through steam, and I was wondering if someone can suggest software,or maybe teach me how to use play on linux to install it (I tried once, dont know how), It is a small game called valiant hearts, so nothing big.... thanks for any help
[05:27] <stoiker> -reisio- there isn't any space on sda1, my system folder
[05:27] <cfhowlett> !wine | bonsar
[05:31] <bonsar> where can I download latest Wine?
[05:32] <daftykins> bonsar: read above, like you were supposed to
[05:32] <daftykins> stoiker: are you the one from earlier with the full SSD?
[05:33] <bonsar> oh thanx
[05:38] <allen_> anyone good with Wine, i can't seem to force it to emulate desktop mode
[05:38] <allen_> any thoughts would be appreciated.
[05:38] <daftykins> allen_: go ask in their channel
[05:39] <daftykins> #winhq
[05:39] <daftykins> #winehq too
[05:39] <allen_> on this server ?
[05:40] <allen_> ty daftykins
[05:41] <epyx> I have a problem
[05:41] <epyx> my 8 gb usb drive says it's 32 gb
[05:41] <epyx> and GParted keeps giving an error about some partition table
[05:41] <epyx> how do I fix it?
[05:42] <epyx> "the device handshake says it's physical block size is 2048 but linux says it's 512"
[05:42] <cfhowlett> epyx, gparted.  delete partitions.  create new partition table and new partition
[05:43] <epyx> doesn't work
[05:46] <daftykins> epyx: what does it look like from another computer?
[05:46] <daftykins> if you're in a USB 3 port, try a USB 2.0
[05:48] <epyx> worked chaning :) ty
[05:49] <daftykins> no problemo
[05:49]  * daftykins blows the ends of the pistols and reholsters them
[05:49] <epyx> lol, made me smile
[05:50] <epyx> if I copy stuff onto this USB stick
[05:50] <epyx> will I be able to access them on another unix computer?
[05:50] <epyx> no permission problems
[05:50] <daftykins> depends what file system you've formatted it with, using something like exFAT will prevent permission fun
[05:50] <epyx> I went with FAT32
[05:51] <daftykins> that'll work too, 4GB file size limit though of course
[05:51] <epyx> awesome, thanks :)
[05:51]  * daftykins tips hat
[06:01] <Neotecha> Is this the best place to ask a question for troubleshooting an issue with a wireless network card?
[06:01] <Neotecha> or is there a better channel to start at?
[06:01] <DaSpawn> Hi, runninv 14.04, in the System Monitor I somehow turned the process view into a tree/parent mode, now I have to expand the process tree every time to see processes, how do I turn this off?
[06:01] <cfhowlett> !wifi | Neotecha,
[06:02] <Neotecha> Thanks, I'll look through there, cfhowlett
[06:02] <ablest> hi
[06:06] <epyx> lol
[06:16] <sgo11> I just found out I can use "ctrl ;" to select text from clipboard in my ubuntu (running lxde). is this a ubuntu's feature?
[06:19] <sgo11> ok, got it. I think that is a feature of fcitx.
[06:35] <LemonSqueeze> Hi, I just bought a windows game through steam, and I was wondering if someone can suggest software,or maybe teach me how to use play on linux to install it (I tried once, dont know how), It is a small game called valiant hearts, so nothing big.... thanks for any help
[06:38] <cfhowlett> LemonSqueeze, install steam for linux??
[06:39] <cfhowlett> !steam | LemonSqueeze
[06:42] <hellofoobarworld> hi. question. with a new computer, or when installing an os fresh, what is the best first step to take? should i secure my bootloader, or flash my bios?
[06:43] <cfhowlett> hellofoobarworld, updated bios typically solves many problems ...
[06:44] <hellofoobarworld> cfhowlett: so then the very first thing to do is flash my bios? ok, and then should the bootloader be secured?
[06:45] <cfhowlett> hellofoobarworld, depends on your level of paranoia.  by way of example, my library sets the boot bios (windows7) to zero display but did NOT lock it.  I insert ubuntu USB, boot, hit the bios switch after POST, select USB boot device, and I haz ubuntu.
[06:46] <cfhowlett> hellofoobarworld, see how secure that is?
[06:47] <hellofoobarworld> cfhowlett: lol, i don't know, you would know better than me. i'm trying to learn heavy duty computer security, coming from not knowing much, and a windows and basic linux background.
[06:47] <cfhowlett> hellofoobarworld, ah.  long story short, unsecured bootloader = unsecured machine.
[06:49] <hellofoobarworld> cfhowlett: i'm aiming for an ultra-paranoid style of system security education, since i enjoy helping people with their computer problems at my college. i only clean up computers (malware-removal and protection), but i'd like to do more for them.
[06:49] <hellofoobarworld> cfhowlett: ok, so after i've flashed the bios and secure the bootloader, the next thing do is a fresh install of their system (or preferrably, give them the linux kernel, if they'll take it)
[06:49] <hellofoobarworld> ?
[06:50] <cfhowlett> hellofoobarworld, different scenario; Beijing Xidan District.  Official Apple Store.  Does that nice, shiny Mac run linux?  let's test ... hmm.  "kiosk mode" = reboot back to OSX, no privileges.  ... BUT, if you know the trick to force it, you can boot to ... bootloader!  selected "windows" insert USB (cuz osx is stupid that way), boot Ubuntu and keep a straight face when the Apple "Genius" comes to look over your shoulder ... :)
[06:52] <hellofoobarworld> cfhowlett: lol, i don't think that was an answer to my question, but rather just a funny scenario you were thinking of, yes? or am i wrong - were you answering my question by saying that?
[06:52] <cfhowlett> hellofoobarworld, you could do "OEM" install, meaning you set up all the updates.  when NewUser boots, s/he will be asked to select an account name and password.  then they boot to their nice, updated *buntu.
[06:53] <cfhowlett> hellofoobarworld,   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[06:55] <hellofoobarworld> cfhowlett: ah yes, i've done that on my own hard drives several times. i actually thought that was the only way to do it. lol.
[06:56] <saleem> how to share network files from ubuntu to windows 7
[06:56] <cfhowlett> hellofoobarworld, I think OEM install is preferable to sitting with NewUser and handholding for first boot.  But that's just my opinion, man.
[06:56] <cfhowlett> !samba | saleem,
[06:56] <hellofoobarworld> cfhowlett: so if i'm unable to convince people to switch to linux, and they retain windows, we do a fresh install... would the very first thing we should do on the new os be to employ full disk encryption?
[06:56] <hellofoobarworld> cfhowlett: yes, i think i agree with your opinion. :-P OEM, it is
[06:56] <cfhowlett> hellofoobarworld, OR, install virtualbox to windows, and put l/x/ubuntu into the virtualbox
[06:57] <cfhowlett> hellofoobarworld, full disk encryption seems excessive, but data/home encryption?  oh, yeah.
[06:57] <cfhowlett> hellofoobarworld, note: they WILL forget their encryption key and call you in a great panic the night before they are schedule to defend their dissertation ...
[06:58] <hellofoobarworld> cfhowlett: i haven't experimented with virtualbox, so i will definitely start playing around with that.
[06:58] <cfhowlett> go PM ?
[06:58] <hellofoobarworld> cfhowlett: dissertation, being a form of debate, topic or lecture, right? sorry, that word isn't in my vocab
[06:58] <cfhowlett> yeah.  hey, private messaging?
[06:59] <hellofoobarworld> cfhowlett: sure. sorry, didn't see it bcuz my name wasn't there
[06:59] <hellofoobarworld> ya h/o
[07:09] <Blaster> What's the best IRC daemon for Ubuntu?
[07:09] <Blaster> I don't trust Google results on that type of matter.  All the results are from 2008-2011.
[07:09] <Blaster> Is this it? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Dancer-IRCD
[07:10] <auscompgeek> there is no single "best" IRCd for Ubuntu
[07:10] <auscompgeek> they are all "best"
[07:10] <Blaster> How would you decide between ircd-irc2 or Daner-IRCD?
[07:11] <saleem> how to share network files using Ip Address of server from ubuntu 12.04 to windows 7
[07:13] <cfhowlett> salee
[07:13] <cfhowlett> !samba | saleem
[07:14] <Neotecha> I'm still not having luck with my wirelss situation, even after working through the wireless wiki articles. ndiswrapper tells me that the device is present and driver installed, but iwconfig shows no wireless devices. WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper doesn't mention this..
[07:15] <cfhowlett> Neotecha, is this a broadcom 43**
[07:15] <Neotecha> It was a Trendnet TW-643pi
[07:16] <Neotecha> 05:05.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8190 802.11n PCI Wireless Network Adapter
[07:16] <Neotecha> (as per, lspci)
[07:25] <Loshki> Blaster: I would see which of the two has better support.
[07:25] <cfhowlett> Neotecha, sorry.  can't help with RLTK
[07:26] <Neotecha> cfhowlett: do you know where i could go to get support for this?
[07:26] <Neotecha> once I get this up and running, I should be fine
[07:26] <Neotecha> but this is my current hurdle
[07:27] <cfhowlett> Neotecha, I'll take a quick peek ...
[07:27] <hellofoobarworld> !encryption
[07:27] <Neotecha> Thank you
[07:30] <Zach443> I have 2 SSD's on my dedicated server, but as far as I know only 1 is being used. I am running out of space on the drive being used. How can I find out what folders are mounted to the second drive and/or mount new folders to it
[07:31] <sennn> hi
[07:33] <cfhowlett> Neotecha, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6183681
[07:34] <cfhowlett> Neotecha, and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1433401&highlight=RTL8190                 seem to suggest it's doable
[07:34] <emigrant-ntb> anyone ? :)
[07:34] <Neotecha> Ok, thank you. I'll see if I can get an answer on the forum, if that second topic doesn't lead me there
[07:34] <Neotecha> Thank you cfhowlett
[07:35] <Neotecha> I'm stepping out of this room for now, though, thank you for you help.
[07:35] <cfhowlett> Neotecha, happy2help
[07:37] <Zach443> Is it possible to list the drives on the machine?
[07:37] <stoiker> yes
[07:37] <Zach443> How so
[07:37] <stoiker> I think it is fdisk
[07:37] <stoiker> fdisk -l
[07:37] <stoiker> no, wait, I think this only lists a single drive's partitions
[07:38] <stoiker> okay, checking more
[07:39] <Zach443> stoiker: http://puu.sh/dkpTR/c199f9c476.png
[07:40] <cfhowlett> sudo fdisk -l
[07:41] <Zach443> cfhowlett: It asked for my password, I put it in and it said "Sorry, try again"
[07:41] <Zach443> wat
[07:47] <auscompgeek> Zach443: incorrect password
[07:47] <Zach443> got it, had a permissions issue
[07:49] <MinervaStjerne> ok
[07:49] <Zach443> Anyone know how I can see what folders are mounted to a drive?
[07:50] <MinervaStjerne> norsk folk?
[08:00] <lasserix_> Hello, I'm trying to set up a LAN using a switch, I don't care about external internet connection. Just want multiple machines to talk to eachother with static ips--can anyone point me to a guide on how to do this?
[08:03] <llutz> lasserix_: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/network-configuration.html
[08:10] <wafflej0ck_> lasserix_: if it's an auto-sensing switch (which most are) you'll just need to configure static IPs for the clients and plug em all in
[08:11] <lasserix_> that so far has not work
[08:11] <lasserix_> ed
[08:11] <bet0x> There is bounty for systemd?
[08:11] <wafflej0ck_> lasserix_: you have the same subnet for all of em and same subnet mask?
[08:14] <lasserix_> yeah
[08:15] <wafflej0ck_> so everything plugged in you got lights you got the same subnet but pings from one to the other aren't working?
[08:16] <pigeta1> hi
[08:16] <pigeta1> im installing a tool for razer mouse
[08:16] <pigeta1> i am on ubuntu 14.04
[08:17] <llutz> !details | lasserix_
[08:19] <pigeta1> but i dont know if use udev or systemd for daemons?
[08:19] <pigeta1> tnx
[08:23] <lasserix_> So I am editing etc/network on two computers connected via a switch, i just want to be able to ping eachother
[08:25] <lasserix_> ahh got it working
[08:25] <linuxlov3r> I have an knowledge blockaide about heci drivers and what the are used for plus a download for the current kernel I have is there someone inhere that is capable of helping me out
[08:26] <auronandace> linuxlov3r: ehci is usb
[08:26] <linuxlov3r> heci i said
[08:27] <juned> hii guys
[08:27] <linuxlov3r> apparrently its also amt or mei
[08:27] <linuxlov3r> or somethinglike that
[08:28] <juned> i am beginner to Linux Ubuntu so when start i am
[08:28] <auronandace> !manual | juned
[08:28] <cfhowlett> juned, you have been told several times today.  READ THE MANUAL for a good start.
[08:29] <juned> thanks i will follow you
[08:30] <juned> i have different version of Ubuntu back box
[08:30] <cfhowlett> juned, back box is not ubuntu.  back box is not supported here.  go to back box for help.
[08:34] <juned> but it is back box is mack from Ubuntu
[08:35] <auronandace> juned: they make changes that are not supported here
[08:35] <cfhowlett> juned, it is NOT UBUNTU.  it is NOT SUPPORTED here.  if you want ubuntu, install ubuntu.
[08:35] <aeon-ltd> juned: what do you want to learn?
[08:35] <cfhowlett> !flavors | juned
[08:36] <juned> i am learn Linux and clear concept about networking
[08:37] <cfhowlett> juned, install ubuntu-server
[08:37] <cfhowlett> !server | juned
[08:37] <auronandace> juned: perhaps ##linux would be a more suitable place to ask generic linux questions
[08:37] <wafflej0ck_> juned: ^
[08:37] <lasserix_> so i have set up static networking between two computers connected by a switch, and added a third. incremented the ip, everything else being equal. it's unable to ping either... any idea of why?
[08:38] <wafflej0ck_> lasserix_: getting lights on both ends of the ethernet for good physical connection?
[08:39] <wafflej0ck_> lasserix_: I ask because cables or ports can sometimes stop working and with such a simple setup there isn't a ton else that can fail
[08:39] <frenda> Is there any ppa for telegram-desktop?
[08:40] <aeon-ltd> frenda: i think google would be better than here to find one
[08:40] <wafflej0ck_> lasserix_: the switch basically just broadcasts messages to all ports if it doesn't know where an IP is and once it gets a response on one of the ports it remembers that the connection on that port is whatever the computer sent as it's source IP with the outgoing message, so it dynamically builds a table over time of what ports correspond to what IPs
[08:40] <linuxlov3r> !manual
[08:41] <linuxlov3r> !heci
[08:41] <frenda> yes, but it just found Sigram!
[08:41] <linuxlov3r> !mei
[08:41] <auronandace> linuxlov3r: please /msg ubottu bot
[08:41] <lasserix_> wafflej0ck_: so is there some way to help the switch build its mac forwarding table?
[08:42] <cfhowlett> linuxlov3r, to avoid factoid spamming use /msg ubottu !factoid
[08:42] <juned> ok guys i am download Ubuntu o.s
[08:42] <juned> and why this chat close and quit
[08:42] <juned> when i close xchat
[08:42] <wafflej0ck_> lasserix_: not really a managed switch (higher end stuff) you can get in there and configure things but auto-sensing consumer stuff typically you just power it off and power it on to reset the tables if something is going screwy
[08:42] <hemlis> Sup Ubuntu
[08:43] <auronandace> juned: xchat is the irc client, if you quit xchat then you are quitting irc
[08:44] <wafflej0ck_> lasserix_: I would double check the ip config stuff, then try moving the cable that doesn't seem to be working to another port, also try another cable if available, then try resetting the switch as a last resort
[08:45] <wafflej0ck_> lasserix_: if none of that works would start looking into dmesg or other logs to see if there's any info on the machine that isn't working that indicates something about the ethernet connection
[08:45] <lasserix_> k thnaks
[08:46] <wafflej0ck_> np good luck
[08:47] <juned> thanks guys u all help me very much
[08:47] <lasserix_> ahh
[08:48] <lasserix_> type in ip address i was pinging doh
[08:51] <Taggnostr2> hello, is there a way to set up a fixed screen resolution without having ubuntu auto-detect/change it when I plug-in/remove screens?
[08:59] <firebird1> Write a command to read all ls command options
[08:59] <cfhowlett> firebird1, man ls
[08:59] <firebird1> :( i didnt figure out that :(
[09:03] <cfhowlett> firebird1, info ls        also works
[09:03] <wafflej0ck_> lasers: heh cool
[09:20] <indistylo_> Cairo dock with openGLis not working after I recently used "manager upgrade" in ubuntu, it says openGL stopped working , Kindly suggest the measures to restore it
[09:21] <ablest1980> hi
[09:22] <ablest1980> hi
[09:23] <cfhowlett> ablest1980  ask your ubuntu question
[09:37] <fanno> hello everyone. since a security update I have been having problems with dual monitor setup. it is acting really strange. I is really hard to explain but I will try. i have built in screen on laptop and external lg screen. the problem do not seem to be excactly the same every time.. but in one of the cases it seems the desktops are mixed up. when using "find screen" it looking at the name of the sreen in upper left cornot it show BOTH screens on both
[09:38] <fanno> Sometimes I see two top menu bar's and it looks like the smaller resolution screen is on top of the bigger screen.
[09:38] <fanno> I can't find anything on google maybe because I don't know what to search for.
[09:40] <piero> ciao
[09:40] <piero> !ciao
[09:40] <piero> xdtc
[09:47] <dbugger> Hello guys. I just bought a new graphic card, a Gigabyte Geforce GTX 970, and for some reason the second monitor is not working, even though it does work on Windows. Can someone give me a hand to making it work? This is the card: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5209#ov
[09:48] <bazhang> dbugger, with nvidia-settings ?
[09:49] <dbugger> bazhang, Let me install the package..
[09:50] <dbugger> bazhang, I installed it. There does not seem to be many options at all
[09:50] <dbugger> bazhang, definitely nothing about a second monitor
[09:50] <Ben64> well you need to be using the nvidia drivers to use that
[09:50] <dbugger> Ben64, How can I know if I am using them or not?
[09:51] <Ben64> well if you had to install nvidia-settings.... you probably aren't
[09:52] <wafflej0ck_> dbugger: go to the additional drivers panel
[09:52] <wafflej0ck_> dbugger: just search for it in the dash
[09:52] <dbugger> wafflej0ck_, I already did. Nothing comes up. It say that no additional drivers were found.
[09:55] <wafflej0ck_> dbugger: hmm well that's suspect... you can install them using apt-get do sudo apt-get install nvidia (don't hit enter, hit tab twice) you'll see different versions of the driver available from the repository, the alternative is installing from the binary from Nvidia but then rollback isn't as easy since you can't just purge a package
[09:55] <ztane> anyone knows if western digital black2 ssd+hd disk works in ubuntu? (since most of the data would point to it not working)
[09:55] <wafflej0ck_> dbugger: I have a 670 and it shows up in the additional drivers panel though so not sure what's up there
[09:56] <dbugger> wafflej0ck_, wafflej0ck_ so I should install "nvidia-331"? That is the latest I see.
[09:57] <Ben64> dbugger: probably need to get a newer one for the 970
[09:57] <wafflej0ck_> yea you can give it a shot, if you end up losing X check out nomodeset you can just set this in grub by hitting e and putting nomodeset in place of quiet
[09:57] <wafflej0ck_> !nomodeset | dbugger
[09:58] <dbugger> i will give it a try. If not, I will try the one from the website
[09:58] <dbugger> Do I need to restart after installing it?
[09:58] <Ben64> dbugger: don't try the one from the website
[09:59] <wafflej0ck_> dbugger: that's probably easiest otherwise usually just killing x and starting it back up works out
[09:59] <QueensMelons> guys, which file should i edit to change GRUB default boot delay?
[09:59] <dbugger> Ben64, why not?
[09:59] <Ben64> dbugger: its bad. you should use this PPA ... https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[09:59] <QueensMelons> also, i want windows to be selected by default
[10:00] <wafflej0ck_> QueensMelons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[10:02] <dbugger> Ben64, Thanks!
[10:04] <dbugger> Ben64, What package from that repo should I use?
[10:05] <Ben64> dbugger: at least 343
[10:06] <dbugger> Ben64, done, im gonna restart
[10:06] <wafflej0ck_> QueensMelons: if you'd rather try a GUI route this app seems to work alright though I'm not sure about the integrity of the package since I just decided to check it out https://launchpad.net/~danielrichter2007/+archive/ubuntu/grub-customizer
[10:06] <QueensMelons> cheers wafflej0ck_, i changed it using nano
[10:07] <QueensMelons> i was looking for it in the wrong config :D
[10:08] <wafflej0ck_> QueensMelons: yeah easy to get lost in the seas of config :P
[10:11] <KEEm> anyone with webpage knowledge ?
[10:11] <daniel_123> HI All, quick question, how does one use pre-scripts on PXE preseeds for ubuntu ?
[10:12] <daniel_123> I'm trying to config a HP raid card before the OS is installed
[10:12] <PCatinean> Hey guys I would like to format my notebook and remove the windows partition of ssd.How do I fully backup my ubuntu drive on an external hdd?
[10:12] <wafflej0ck> QueensMelons: yup that GUI app is actually pretty nice works well too
[10:13] <PCatinean> would this be a good resource?
[10:13] <wafflej0ck> PCatinean: I typically use Clonezilla, gives you a bootable CD for running DD over a network to a shared location
[10:13] <PCatinean> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/TAR
[10:13] <bekks> daniel_123: PXE has no scripts. Are you using kickstart or seed files?
[10:14] <daniel_123> redhad / centos im using KS but deb and ubuntu see files
[10:14] <daniel_123> looking for the deb version of this https://github.com/russki/hpraid-chroot
[10:14] <PCatinean> wafflej0ck, okay thanks
[10:15] <wafflej0ck> PCatinean: Clonezilla gives you a simple interface to backup the entire disk and restore the entire disk or to backup indvidual partitions and restore them, figuring out the network part is the only thing that can be a little tricky but it helps out and if you get an error just Google what settings you need for your NAS or whatever, if it's all in one machine should be easy
[10:16] <bekks> daniel_123: preseed/early_command
[10:16] <daniel_123> ah yes , I knew about the late command
[10:17] <daniel_123> didn't know about early command
[10:17] <daniel_123> that will hopefully do the trick as the raid needs to be done before the OS for obvious reasons
[10:18] <PCatinean> wafflej0ck, most likely I will make a new system and get what I need from git, and sometimes I might have forgotte something from the old backup and restore 1-2 files
[10:18] <PCatinean> that's pretty much it since I'm installing 14.04 and dumping 13.10
[10:18] <wafflej0ck> PCatinean: ah hmm
[10:18] <wafflej0ck> PCatinean: might be better off doing the tar backup or something then cause partial recovery from the files from clonezilla isn't so easy
[10:19] <wafflej0ck> PCatinean: rsync might work out for ya too
[10:19] <juned> we can start personal chat
[10:19] <juned> ?
[10:19] <wafflej0ck> PCatinean: on Ubuntu Gnome I've been using Duplicity cause they have a GUI built into the desktop for it and it's good for daily backups to a NAS
[10:19] <wafflej0ck> juned: go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:20] <juned> why your writing in red green black
[10:20] <juned> ?
[10:20] <PCatinean> duplicity ok
[10:21] <wafflej0ck> PCatinean: yeah well I just use duplicity cause of the GUI supplied with it in this distro/Desktop Environment
[10:21] <wafflej0ck> PCatinean: rsync is simpler for just copying things incrementally and can recover if it gets stopped half way through or whatever
[10:21] <PCatinean> Actually I do have a automatic backup being made by duplicity on each boot from my ssd to my hdd in the caddy
[10:22] <wafflej0ck> juned: it's just how IRC clients display if someone has typed your name in the line to get your attention
[10:22] <wafflej0ck> PCatinean: typically I use Clonezilla before major upgrades though and then once after I have everything stable on a new version
[10:23] <wafflej0ck> PCatinean: just in case I need to rollback for some reason or forgot something really important and then can go back to the new system after I've backed that up too
[10:23] <PCatinean> wafflej0ck, rsync -aAXv --exclude={"/dev/*","/proc/*","/sys/*","/tmp/*","/run/*","/mnt/*","/media/*","/lost+found"} /* /path/to/backup/folder
[10:23] <PCatinean> would that do?
[10:23] <PCatinean> with my external hdd connected
[10:23] <PCatinean> and onto it
[10:23] <wafflej0ck> PCatinean: yup looks reasonable, don't know all those flags by heart but should work
[10:23] <PCatinean> alright
[10:23]  * PCatinean goes in
[10:24] <PCatinean> should also use sudo
[10:24] <PCatinean> I guess
[10:25] <wafflej0ck> yeah, I'd suggest just backing up the things you think you probably need like /etc/ and your home folder (all your . folders and files) with rsync then do a clonezilla snapshot of the whole drive and go with the upgrade
[10:27] <wafflej0ck> you can stitch back together the tar file of the drive that clonezilla makes if you have enough space but can take some time/effort to work that out
[10:27] <PCatinean> By upgrade you mean actual upgrade from the system or format and install new system?
[10:28] <wafflej0ck> PCatinean: usually I like to clean install but upgrades have gotten better (still not perfect usually)
[10:30] <wafflej0ck> from 12.04 I went up to 14.04 and it was okay but I tried a few different desktop environments so ended up clean installing after deciding to go with Gnome for now... only regret is I don't have the latest Gnome :)
[10:31] <lord4163> Hey
[10:31] <wafflej0ck> always be prepared to wipe it out at least though, that's why I dig the clonezilla backups, makes me feel good to know I can always just load it back up and at most will take like an hour
[10:31] <lord4163> My wifi disconnects every 10 minutes or so, and then I have to reboot?
[10:31] <siebren> hoe gaat het
[10:32] <wafflej0ck> !wifi | lord4163
[10:33] <siebren> hello
[10:33] <siebren> how are you
[10:33] <wafflej0ck> !ot | siebren
[10:33] <lord4163> wafflej0ck: should I try a new kernel, the card is a RTL8723BE, and if so, is there a ppa for 14.04?
[10:33] <wafflej0ck> siebren: room is for support questions see the offtopic channel for chat :)
[10:34] <siebren> yes
[10:34] <wafflej0ck> lord4163: sorry no idea on either of those, you can do lspci if it's built in or lsusb for a USB device to see the device id and try to google and see if anyone has bug reports or troubleshooting steps for 14.04
[10:35] <lord4163> wafflej0ck: 3.16 should include a bug fix for it
[10:36] <wafflej0ck> lord4163: this may help but dunno http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/08/install-upgrade-linux-kernel-3-16/
[10:39] <kestasjk> tried #xeoma but noone was there. want to do some shoe strignt budget threft derrentce via a motion detection videogam
[10:39] <kestasjk> have used webcamd | pwcview | ffmpeg in the past, with reasonable results, but xeoma sees to have bulid in email / sms notifications and commands, sensitigvity levels and audio integration
[10:39] <kestasjk> problem is it just doesnt want to react when I make blatant moves in from of it
[10:40] <kestasjk> dont want to get an OTT dlink thinkgo, since I just know it'll fall apart after 3-6 months and the extra webcam parts I need are spares
[10:41] <lord4163> wafflej0ck: I thought there was a kernel ppa?
[10:43] <wafflej0ck> lord4163: ah looks like there is https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa I don't fiddle with my kernel
[10:51] <lord4163> wafflej0ck: Oh I thought it wasn't maintained anymore someone said. Installed it manually
[10:56] <lord4163> wafflej0ck: Hm now I can't tap on my touchpad anymore?
[10:58] <wafflej0ck> lord4163: hmm strange you can check, xinput to get details on the device and modify properties in the command line or check the system settings for the mouse to see if there's a checkbox that got toggled off
[10:59] <lord4163> wafflej0ck: There are no settings for the touchpad in ubuntu-mate? :(
[11:00] <wafflej0ck> lord4163: well search about xinput it's command line should work pretty much wherever
[11:00] <wafflej0ck> lord4163: can use it for toggling on and off features but need to list the devices and then target a particular device by name to get it's property list then set some property to some value
[11:03] <lord4163> wafflej0ck: Ok will try a few things.
[11:10] <indistylo_> Cairo dock with openGLis not working after I recently used "manager upgrade" in ubuntu, it says openGL stopped working , Kindly suggest the measures to restore it
[11:10] <indistylo_> Any solutions ??
[11:12] <synth_> why does pidgin not show my contacts
[11:12] <juned> what is the vidalia
[11:12] <synth_> contacts name*
[11:12] <juned> anyone know
[11:16] <ishtiaque> hi guys
[11:17] <ishtiaque> i have an HD tablet where the close, minimise and maximise buttons are too small
[11:17] <ishtiaque> how can i get them to be larger?
[11:31] <mozzarella> guys help
[11:31] <ikonia> with what ?
[11:37] <mozzarella> ikonia: xmodmap
[11:38] <ikonia> mozzarella: you'll find it easier to get help if you state what version of ubuntu you are using, and what the problem is, then people in the channel will help if they can
[11:42] <tuxgeek> msg ubottu !bot
[11:44] <min> Hi, can you help me to calculate this limit: limit(((1/(x ln(2)))-(1/(2^x-1))-(1/2))/x) as x->0
[11:45] <mozzarella> ikonia: I'm trying to remap my command key into a alt key, I got it kind of working, except it's not possible to use keyboard shortcuts that are using alt
[11:45] <cfhowlett> min, this is not your homework cheat channel.  get off iRC and go read your math book.
[11:45] <ikonia> mozzarella: of course not as you've remapped alt
[11:45] <ikonia> so alt is no longer alt, hence alt shortcuts not working
[11:45] <mozzarella> you know the hub thing? you press alt and then it says "type your command"
[11:46] <mozzarella> ikonia: I mean I'm pressing the logical alt, which means physical command key
[11:46] <ikonia> ahh I see
[11:46] <ikonia> seems an odd thing to change, but "ok"
[11:46] <mozzarella> you know the hub thing?
[11:46] <ikonia> I do
[11:47] <mozzarella> it works when I press alt, but that's really the only thing that works
[11:47] <mozzarella> I can't use alt shortcuts
[11:47] <ikonia> no idea
[11:47] <ikonia> I don't understand why you would move alt to command, so I've never tried
[11:48] <mozzarella> it's an apple keyboard, they're physically swapped (if you compare them to normal pc keyboards)
[11:54] <Happzz> before i completely wipe ubuntu, is there a way to enable full-disk encryption AFTER installing ubuntu?
[11:54] <Happzz> i couldn't enable encryption during setup because it wouldn't let me, as there's windows on another partition
[12:01] <indistylo_> Cairo dock with openGLis not working after I recently used "manager upgrade" in ubuntu, it says openGL stopped working , Kindly suggest the measures to restore it
[12:02] <indistylo_> Any Solution Givers ?
[12:05] <idler> happy new year next
[12:06] <ikonia> ?
[12:08] <idler> i very hapy because i ve the first present for the next year a tablet sansumg s3 lite
[12:09] <tuxgeek> !op idler
[12:09] <ikonia> no need for an ops call
[12:09] <ikonia> idler: this channel is for ubuntu support chat,
[12:11] <idler> and isnt possible the use of ubuntu in my tablet  sansumg s3 lite????
[12:11] <ikonia> idler: check the ubuntu touch information
[12:11] <ikonia> !touch | idler
[12:12] <tuxgeek> i think i meant..
[12:12] <tuxgeek> !op | idler
[12:13] <popey> !devices
[12:13] <idler> how words together
[12:13] <popey> yay, i thought that only worked here
[12:13] <popey> er, there.
[12:13] <ikonia> thanks popey thats a better link
[12:18] <idler> ok and ubuntu  for sansumg galaxy  s3 lite has acceleration for HW???
[12:19] <cfhowlett> !touch | idler  wrong channel
[12:20] <idler> thats is a forum not a chanel in  real time
[12:20] <idler> that
[12:20] <Ben64> continue reading to the end of the line
[12:20] <ikonia> it is a channel
[12:20] <ikonia> #ubuntu-touch
[12:21] <idler> ah ok i didnt saw
[12:21] <cfhowlett> lol
[12:22] <xaniared> lol
[12:22] <xaniared> #gr
[12:24] <howinstallfhishi> Ciao, alò, hello, hola.!!! :D
[12:24] <ikonia> "hello"
[12:25] <howinstallfhishi> i need help installing phishing-frenzy
[12:25] <ikonia> howinstallfhishi: what is that ?
[12:26]  * cfhowlett has a very bad feeling about this ...
[12:26] <howinstallfhishi> i am 3 days trying to install
[12:26] <ikonia> howinstallfhishi: what is that ?
[12:27] <howinstallfhishi> http://www.phishingfrenzy.com/resources/install_kali_linux
[12:27] <Ben64> "Phishing Frenzy is an Open Source Ruby on Rails application that is leveraged by penetration testers to manage email phishing campaigns."
[12:27] <Ben64> sounds terrible
[12:27] <ikonia> yes, it does
[12:27] <cfhowlett> howinstallfhishi, 1.  this isn't kali. cant' support you with it
[12:27] <ikonia> I'm just reading the google hits
[12:28] <cfhowlett> !kali | howinstallfhishi
[12:29] <cfhowlett> the more I read, the more foul this thing looks
[12:30] <howinstallfhishi> there is no one in the other channels its Devian like ubuntu
[12:30] <ikonia> yes there are many people in the kali support channels
[12:30] <howinstallfhishi> :'(
[12:30] <cfhowlett> howinstallfhishi, this is NOT "devian" NOT kali.  go there.  and phishing frenzy is NOT ubuntu so ... not supported here
[12:31] <howinstallfhishi> wow! sorry cfhowlett ikonia...
[12:31] <ikonia> no problem
[12:31] <howinstallfhishi> good day for all
[12:31] <ikonia> take care,
[12:33] <cog> Heya, have a problem with an external HDD that took a fall and is not being recognized, anyone have any experience with recovering HDDs/partitions?
[12:34] <cog> The disk spins but doesn't get listed in a fdisk -l
[12:35] <ikonia> cog: unplug the usb, reboot your machine plug it in and see if it gets detected
[12:35] <cog> did that plenty already, no luck
[12:36] <ikonia> cog: so either the ubs connection is broken, or the disk is dead
[12:36] <cog> fdisk only show actual partitions, right? So how do I see if the disk itself is being detected regardless of whether it can read the partition table?
[12:36] <lord4163> wafflej0ck: The new kernel still disconnects. Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[12:36] <ikonia> cog: fdisk will show the disk
[12:37] <ikonia> cog: reboot the machine without the disk in, plug the disk in after the boot, and look in /var/log/messages
[12:38] <cog> the computer was started without the disk in and the disk plugged in after (this is not the normal computer the HDD is plugged to)
[12:39] <cog> but I don't have a /var/log/messages
[12:39] <ikonia> cog: what operating system is this ?
[12:39] <cog> Ubuntu 14.04
[12:39] <ikonia> there should be a messages file then
[12:39] <cog> is it hidden?
[12:39] <ikonia> no
[12:40] <cog> lightdm, mail.err, mail.log, news
[12:41] <cog> no messages
[12:41] <wafflej0ck> lord4163: ah bummer, had to reboot there decided to use a PPA for getting the latest gnome
[12:41] <ikonia> cog: ls -la /var/log please put the output into a pastebin
[12:41] <wafflej0ck> lord4163: er a newer version at least
[12:43] <cog> http://pastebin.com/7nW4igVX
[12:43] <ikonia> seems odd
[12:44] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> Hey guys
[12:44] <cog> told you it didn't exist :)
[12:44] <ikonia> cog: sorry, /var/log/syslog
[12:44] <ikonia> changed in ubuntu 12.04
[12:44] <cog> grumble
[12:44] <cog> lol
[12:45] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> I have deleted all my data from my ssd (well at the step where i need to confirm) and I want to i stall ununtu 14.10 over, do I have to do anything special like creating partitions or will.the installer take care of everything?
[12:46] <cog> right, what am I looking for on the logs_
[12:46] <cog> ?
[12:46] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD-Android: exactly the same as all your other installs
[12:46] <ikonia> cog: the addition of a usb device that is a disk
[12:46] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> Install now on the empty partition?
[12:47] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD-Android: exactly the same as all your other installs
[12:47] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> I don't want dual boot now
[12:47] <cog> ok, I see it, sec let me paste the results
[12:47] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> The swap space and all that I assume it will take care of it
[12:48] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> And I do not have to do it manually
[12:48] <ikonia> if you let it auto partition it will, if you set it to advaned/manual you will have to do it
[12:48] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> ok I went to advanced manual to erase all the data on the ssd
[12:48] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> I should click back?
[12:49] <ikonia> up to you
[12:49] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> Not sure if it wil undo all the operations in gparted
[12:49] <ikonia> it will undo anything you've not commited
[12:49] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> tried to locate a commit button don't see it
[12:50] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> think i'm blind or smth
[12:50] <ikonia> there isn't a commit button
[12:50] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> just quit, back, and install now
[12:50] <cog> http://pastebin.com/a3gjGrt3
[12:50] <cog> it just repeats the error after
[12:50] <idler> the chanel of ubuntu touch doesnt work
[12:50] <idler> no resonse
[12:50] <idler> no response
[12:51] <ikonia> cog: if you do "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb" what do you see
[12:51] <idler> i still with the same doubte
[12:51] <cog> checking
[12:51] <cfhowlett> IdleOne, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[12:52] <idler> i dont know if  ubuntu has acceleration for HW  in sansumg galaxy s3 lite
[12:53] <cfhowlett> idler you have the link.  we're not going to read it for you.  information is on the page.
[12:53] <cog> returned nothing
[12:54] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> ikonia, if i click back it reverts the changes, if i click install now will it start installing without the partitions like swap space etc?
[12:54] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD-Android: it won't install if you haven't defined partitions
[12:54] <ikonia> cog: looks like it's dead then
[12:55] <idler> all is in english and im very idler and im tired for read pages in english now
[12:55] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> hmm
[12:55] <ikonia> cog: as you can see it sends signals down the usb channel, but it's not actually getting to a state where it's advertising itself as a disk
[12:55] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> you are right
[12:55] <cog> got this on the syslog:  sdb: unable to read partition table
[12:55] <ikonia> cog: yeah, it can't even see it as a disk
[12:55] <ikonia> hence why it can't read the partition table
[12:55] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> i'll just go to gparted in try ubu tu without installig, delete and then run installer
[12:56] <Wiz_KeeD-Android> thanks ikonia!
[12:56] <cog> and then ... INFO: Quitting due to inactivity
[12:56] <cog> so it sounds like it is a gonner?
[12:56] <ikonia> cog: broken disk
[13:07] <esseks> Hi guys! Is there any way to have efi stub play nice with secure boot? Or do I need GRUB=
[13:08] <cfhowlett> !efi | esseks
[13:14] <esseks> thanks cfhowlett, I already have ubuntu up and running with uefi. I only need to know if I need GRUB to be able to turn secure boot on.
[13:15] <paul_> Hi guys, is it possible to create a shortcut on the desktop to a command line in the terminal? It should contain the commands that I use in the terminal so I dont have to type them on my own again
[13:15] <esseks> s/turn/boot with/
[13:23] <wafflej0ck> paul_: you can create a runnable script and add it to your PATH in your environment typically that's the easiest way you can also make shortcuts to run the script if you'd like
[13:24] <wafflej0ck> paul_: personally I have a ~/scripts folder I made and added to my PATH so I just pop open a guake terminal and run the command
[13:24] <EriC^^> esseks: i think it's possible
[13:24] <paul_> wafflej0ck, to get more specific: My command is "mupen64plus N64/Kirby64.z64" - How do i get a shortcut out of this?
[13:24] <EriC^^> you have to sign the .efi file with sbsign http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/secureboot.html
[13:25] <digigram> paul_ like an alias?
[13:25] <wafflej0ck> paul_: just write into a text file and save it like runKirby.sh go to the file properties and mark it as executable
[13:25] <EriC^^> paul_: what do you mean by shortcut?
[13:25] <EriC^^> like a launcher icon?
[13:26] <paul_> EriC^^, yes
[13:26] <wafflej0ck> paul_: see http://community.spiceworks.com/topic/516634-shell-script-desktop-shortcut for making the executable shell script runnable by double clicking instead of opening it
[13:26] <esseks> EriC^^, so the -signed kernel is useless in my use case?
[13:26] <paul_> EriC^^, Like a shortcut on the desktop
[13:26] <wafflej0ck> paul_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/299052/how-to-execute-sh-script-from-a-desktop-shortcut
[13:26] <EriC^^> paul_: go to /usr/share/applications and make a .desktop file using a file that's there, modify the Exec part to your command and then add it as usual to the launcher
[13:26] <paul_> Thanks guys, you helped me out once again! I owe you big time
[13:27] <wafflej0ck> paul_: ah yeah what EriC^^said is true too can just make a .desktop file with the Exec set with your command, that is probably a cleaner way to go
[13:30] <paul_> Wait a second! Its loading the script, but nothing happens
[13:30] <T0ast_phone> Anyone there?
[13:31] <T0ast_phone> I need help
[13:31] <PCatinean_> Hey guys I am unsure on which driver to pick on install, any directions on what route should I take?
[13:31] <PCatinean_> I also have nvidia with a secondary intel proccesor and I installed bumblebee even though there is a bumblebee-nvidia package as well
[13:31] <EriC^^> paul_: what does the script do?
[13:32] <paul_> "mupen64plus N64/Kirby64.z64"
[13:32] <brontosaurusrex> is there something that would generate a client-side (javascript?) search engine from a set of static html (or markdown) pages? (The results must work offline as well)
[13:32] <EriC^^> yeah, does it open a gui n64 emulator?
[13:32] <EriC^^> paul_: you need to add the full path btw
[13:33] <EriC^^> paul_: /home/<user>/..N64/Kirby64.z64
[13:33] <EriC^^> esseks: no idea, never tried it, i think you need to make a .efi file like grub's shimx64.efi or something
[13:34] <paul_> I assume you mean it should be "mupen64plus /home/paul/N64/Kirby64.z64". But nothing happened
[13:34] <EriC^^> paul_: when you type that in a terminal what happens?
[13:35] <T0ast_phone> For some reason the 'system settings' button on the toolbar isn't doing anything ;_;
[13:35] <PCatinean_> any1?
[13:35] <EriC^^> T0ast_phone: unity-control-center
[13:35] <T0ast_phone> I use xfce
[13:36] <T0ast_phone> Oh wait it's working
[13:36] <T0ast_phone> Thanks :2
[13:36] <paul_> EriC^^, its starting and I marked "launch as executable" but it still opens with gedit. Terminal played the game
[13:37] <EriC^^> paul_: did you add a .desktop file
[13:38] <T0ast_phone> Ugh, now the system settings window keeps crashing every time I open it
[13:39] <T0ast_phone> I'm trying to get to text entry settings
[13:39] <paul_> EriC^^, saved the command line as a .desktop file and it says an error occured
[13:40] <EriC^^> paul_: you have to use a template from /usr/share/applications , and save it there too
[13:40] <T0ast_phone> How do I get directly to the text entry settings?
[13:41] <EriC^^> paul_: type gksu nautilus /usr/share/applications
[13:42] <EriC^^> paul_: select a .desktop file and copy it, rename and modify the copy
[13:42] <paul_> EriC^^, I'm there. what to do?
[13:42] <paul_> EriC^^, there is no .desktop file, but Ive seen the commands on the wiki before
[13:43] <mikhael_k33hl> I'm trying to set up nagios graph following this link: https://raymii.org/s/tutorials/Nagios_Core_4_Installation_on_Ubuntu_12.04.html but it says The requested URL /nagiosgraph/cgi-bin/show.cgi was not found on this server.. I can access nagios though
[13:43] <tuxakadjseb> Anybody to compile Neverball into *.deb ?
[13:43] <bekks> mikhael_k33hl: That file does not exist - check your installation then :)
[13:44] <mikhael_k33hl> bekks: I did
[13:44] <Boreeas> Is there a way to pipe some file (in my case, /dev/urandom) directly into a socket?
[13:44] <bekks> Boreeas: What are you actually trying to do?
[13:44] <bekks> mikhael_k33hl: Then why does it not exist? Did you create it?
[13:45] <er4z0r_> can anyone help me with a linker problem?
[13:45] <Boreeas> bekks: I have a program that allegedly accepts input it's not supposed to accept to the point of segfaulting, and I want to test that
[13:45] <er4z0r_> I try to link my program against libpcap but ld cannot seems to find it
[13:45] <mikhael_k33hl> bekks: I installed it then I have a .conf file with an Alias to it
[13:46] <EriC^^> paul_: what do you mean by there's no .desktop file?
[13:46] <bekks> mikhael_k33hl: But that UL does not exist. So did you check wether that file is supposed to exist due to your configuration?
[13:46] <EriC^^> paul_: ls /usr/share/applications show's nothing?
[13:46] <paul_> EriC^^, there is no .desktop file in /usr/share/applications
[13:47] <bekks> er4z0r_: Did you install libpcap-dev ?
[13:47] <mikhael_k33hl> bekks: sorry I kinda new to this, what's UL?
[13:47] <EriC^^> paul_: type cat /etc/issue plese
[13:47] <bekks> mikhael_k33hl: URL :)
[13:47] <EriC^^> *please
[13:47] <er4z0r_> bekks: yes. it is not the compiler complaining about missing headers
[13:47] <mikhael_k33hl> bekks: yeah it is
[13:47] <er4z0r_> bekks: it is the linker
[13:47] <er4z0r_> so basically it does not seems to find the correct *.so
[13:47] <bekks> er4z0r_: Then what is the exact, unchanged, full error message? Can you pastebin it please?
[13:47] <paul_> EriC^^, Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[13:47] <er4z0r_> sure
[13:48] <EriC^^> paul_: select any application's .desktop file and copy it, not .desktop
[13:48] <EriC^^> paul_: when you use nautilus to view the directory, you should see a bunch of applications
[13:49] <paul_> EriC^^, I do. What now?
[13:49] <EriC^^> those are the .desktop files
[13:49] <er4z0r_> bekks: umm how do you switch the locale in the console quickly?
[13:49] <er4z0r_> changing LC_ALL?
[13:49] <bekks> er4z0r_: loadkeys en   for example.
[13:49] <er4z0r_> bekks: no i mean output
[13:49] <EriC^^> paul_: copy one of them, then rename and modify the copy
[13:49] <mikhael_k33hl> bekks: You know, I"m also wondering how I am able to access nagios when my virtual host's root directory is /var/www/nagios << there is no files there
[13:49] <er4z0r_> I doubt you want the error message in german ;-)
[13:49] <bekks> er4z0r_: LC_* have nothing to do with input. :)
[13:49] <EriC^^> paul_: edit the Exec= to your command
[13:50] <paul_> EriC^^, how am I able to edit the modify the copy? even if i change the file type by renaming, i cant edit
[13:50] <bekks> er4z0r_: You want to change the output. LANG=C ... should do the job
[13:50] <er4z0r_> kk
[13:51] <Glooomy> Hi guys does someone have experience with external soundards on Ubuntu?
[13:51] <bekks> Glooomy: Do you have a specific question or is that just a poll? :)
[13:51] <EriC^^> paul_: right click the copy and press rename
[13:51] <Glooomy> Are they well supported or is it going to be a mess to work with? (I want to connect to HiFi equipment)
[13:51] <giaico72> !list
[13:51] <EriC^^> paul_: then type gksu gedit and drag the copy to the window
[13:52] <PCatinean_> I have a hdd connected to my laptop at all times and ubuntu installed on ssd, how do I permanently mount the hdd so I can see it from ubuntu and install dropbox on it etc?
[13:52] <giaico72> \list
[13:53] <er4z0r_> bekks: http://pastebin.com/31FkujET
[13:53] <EriC^^> PCatinean_: what do you mean by permanently mount?
[13:53] <er4z0r_> bekks: sorry, had no english locale installed so most of gcc output still german
[13:53] <EriC^^> PCatinean_: you can add it to the fstab and have it mounted at a certain mountpoint if you want
[13:53] <PCatinean_> EriC^^, yes that would be it, an article about it?
[13:54] <paul_> EriC^^, Thanks a bunch! It worked!
[13:54] <EriC^^> PCatinean_: get it's uuid with blkid
[13:54] <EriC^^> paul_: great, no problem
[13:54] <ThePiixelMonster> hi
[13:54] <EriC^^> PCatinean_: then type nano /etc/fstab and add it there
[13:55] <EriC^^> UUID=<uuid> <mountpoint>               <file system type>    errors=remount-ro 0       1
[13:56] <EriC^^> or use whatever options you want
[13:56] <bekks> er4z0r_: Whats the output of gcc -lpcap sniffer.c -o sniffer ?
[13:56] <EriC^^> PCatinean_: you need sudo to edit it btw
[13:58] <er4z0r_> bekks: http://pastebin.com/Cs6PWAgR
[13:58] <er4z0r_> bekks: the same
[13:58] <PCatinean_> EriC^^, how does this look? UUID=51DDB6994E6674F0 /mnt/caddy ntfs errors=remount-ro 0 1
[13:58] <er4z0r_> no clue how to tell ld to  be more verbose :-/
[13:59] <EriC^^> PCatinean_: it's ok, give it a shot, caddy has to be created first though
[13:59] <PCatinean_> EriC^^, wanted to ask that
[13:59] <EriC^^> so sudo mkdir /mnt/caddy
[13:59] <PCatinean_> with root permissions right?
[13:59] <PCatinean_> ah ok
[13:59] <EriC^^> then type sudo mount /mnt/caddy and it should grab it from the fstab
[13:59] <PCatinean_> and reboot I assume
[13:59] <EriC^^> nope not necessary
[14:00] <PCatinean_> ahh so that's how it works
[14:00] <PCatinean_> by looking at the path then querying the fstab doc
[14:02] <er4z0r_> bekks: I found it curious that the libpcap package actually provides _two_ .so files
[14:02] <EriC^^> PCatinean_: yeah, about the options though
[14:02] <EriC^^> PCatinean_: you need to add auto for it to automount
[14:02] <PCatinean_> EriC^^, which one is that? :-s
[14:03] <EriC^^> PCatinean_: use ntfs defauts,errors=remount-ro
[14:04] <PCatinean_> add defaults, youmean?
[14:04] <EriC^^> yup
[14:06] <PCatinean_> Ahh and those are two options I take it separated by commas and no space
[14:06] <PCatinean_> defaults,errors=val
[14:06] <EriC^^> yup
[14:07] <EriC^^> there's a list of options you can use check here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab#Options
[14:07] <EriC^^> PCatinean_: if you want to mount it with certain permissions you can, allowing the execution of binaries or not, and if anybody can mount or not
[14:08] <EriC^^> PCatinean_: the options are executed one after the other, like if you set something like all users can mount, that implies no execution is allowed, so if you add the exec option after it you can change that
[14:12] <AlexPortable> Where can I download the default ubuntu loading screen?
[14:13] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, plymouth
[14:13] <tomwozzer> hi
[14:14] <AlexPortable> Is that a website?
[14:14] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, that's the boot up process
[14:16] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, filesystem > lib > plymouth
[14:16] <AlexPortable> no i mean for download
[14:17] <bekks> AlexPortable: What are you actually trying to accomplish?
[14:17] <hellowfoobarworl> security question, maybe someone knows. for the most secure internet connection in a desktop environment (meaning everyday use, but not paranoid enough to run a live os all the time), would the following setup be suggested? :: install VM, install Tor, access internet? or am i right in thinking i have no clue what i'm talking about?
[14:18] <bekks> hellowfoobarworl: tor does not provide any security, but just obscurity.
[14:18] <Guest19620> Hey all
[14:18] <niekie> hellowfoobarworl: the most important question is: what are you trying to secure against?
[14:18] <cfhowlett> hellofoobarworld, snowden used tails ... fwiw
[14:18] <AlexPortable> bekks: getting the images
[14:18] <pauljw> AlexPortable, open ubuntu software center, type plymouth in the seach bar and install.
[14:18] <Guest19620> Can I get some assistance with some broadcom drivers?
[14:18] <hellowfoobarworl> hi again cfhowlett
[14:18] <cfhowlett> hellofoobarworld, hey there
[14:19] <cfhowlett> !broadcom | Guest19620,
[14:19] <Guest19620> Read it all
[14:19] <cfhowlett> Guest19620, what chipset are you running?
[14:20] <Guest19620> Got the drivers and made and installed them however the hardware isn't seeming to want to start using them even though I used the additional drivers tool to activate them.
[14:20] <hellowfoobarworl> cfhowlett: you already know what my mission is. :-P bekks: yes, i'm aware it only obscures, and that's why i was wondering if running the obscurity (Tor) within the VM (security) would be a good setup? cfhowlett: is the VM what you were talking about earlier when you mentioned VirtualBox?
[14:21] <Guest19620> sudo lshw -C network still reports that the b43-pci-bridge drivers are in use on the hardware
[14:21] <cfhowlett> hellowfoobarworl, it was
[14:21] <cfhowlett> Guest19620, what - chipset - do - you - have - ?
[14:22] <Guest19620> bcm4321 dell
[14:22] <bekks> Guest19620: The BCM4321 is Broadcom chipset.
[14:23] <Guest19620> cfhowlett: do I have to run the additional drivers tool as root?
[14:23] <cfhowlett> Guest19620, do you have an ubuntu .iso or USB?
[14:23] <bekks> *is a
[14:23] <hellowfoobarworl> cfhowlett: ok cool. i've been following your advice and researching it, as well as bootkits, tpms and more. just wanted to let you know, because no one likes to give advice that ultimately isn't followed :-P
[14:23] <Guest19620> I am currently using the 'try' portion of UBUNTU Gnome
[14:23] <cfhowlett> hellowfoobarworl, nice.
[14:24] <Guest19620> I wanted to be sure that my wireless drivers would be acceptable before installing
[14:24] <cfhowlett> Guest19620, ubuntu 14.04??
[14:24] <hellowfoobarworl> bekks: do you think that the VM security with Tor obscurity is a good configuration?
[14:24] <Guest19620> cfhowlett: yes 14.04.1
[14:25] <cfhowlett> Guest19620, nice.  give me a minute to set up.
[14:25] <bekks> hellowfoobarworl: I dont think tor is a good idea at all :)
[14:25] <Guest19620> cfhowlett: let me change my nick to g405t
[14:25] <CyL_> Hi, in Ubuntu 14.04.1 server I'm trying to attach a machine to a WiFi router using the command line. It seems that 14.04 had some modifications rendering the online documentation somewhat outdated. Any advice on how to do this?
[14:26] <g405t> cfhowlett: there
[14:27] <Eldunar> hello can u give me soe tool for customizing themes?
[14:27] <cfhowlett> g405t, I see you
[14:28] <g405t> good to know
[14:28] <hellofoobarworld> bekks: why would it not be a good idea through a VM though?
[14:28] <g405t> I know I'm just overlooking something stupid
[14:28] <cog> how do I reset the permissions on a file? I'm booting from the live CD so already in as sudo but can't open a particular file nor copy it
[14:29] <cog> I tried 'sudo chmod 550 <filename>' but that doesn't seem to have worked. I can see the permissions are different but still can't open the file
[14:29] <hellofoobarworld> bekks: provided Tor is the only application beign run through the VM?
[14:30] <paulus68> I've a problem with my SSD I get ext4-fs error device(sdc6): ext4_find_entry:1302 during startup and drm_kms_helper panic messages how do I solve this?
[14:30] <bekks> hellofoobarworld: What do you hope to gain through the usage of tor?
[14:30] <fanno> hello again can anyone explain why this happens ? http://picpaste.com/pics/Sk__rmbillede_fra_2014-12-07_15_24_26-xVeNeySI.1417962384.png you can see it displays both monitor indicator on both screens, I can only use clone mode. I cant find anything on google i am not sure what to search for =/
[14:30] <er4z0r_> bekks: never mind, I had my argument order in gcc wrong
[14:30] <cfhowlett> g405t, OK, good news is you can likely get wifi fired up.  open your file manager and navigate to filesystem/cdrom/poo/
[14:30] <bekks> paulus68: Bu running fsck -f from a live cd.
[14:31] <paulus68> bekks: BU?
[14:31] <bekks> paulus68: bu?
[14:32] <g405t> cfhowlett: in filesystem/cdrom/pool I have main and restricted folders
[14:32] <paulus68> bekks: paulus68: Bu running fsck -f from a live cd.
[14:32] <cfhowlett> g405t, perfect. https://www.fpaste.org/157362/
[14:32] <bekks> paulus68: By ...
[14:33] <hellofoobarworld> bekks: i volunteer my time to people at school, fixing their computer. i have been "securing" them as well (encrypting, anti-keyloggers, getting them password managers instead of browsers, etc), but i have recently learned that my efforts have been mostly vain, as there are ways to circumvent this security (with bootkits being one of them, as well as hardware modifications). i'm trying to learn everything i can so that i ca
[14:33] <cfhowlett> g405t, long story short:  sudo dkpg -i those 2 files in that sequence.  that should enable your broadcom.  might need to kickstart by going to "additional drivers"
[14:33] <fanno> anyone have had any experiance with dual monitor setup =/ i have hit a dead end !
[14:34] <AlexPortable> So, my system freezes with ubuntu 14.04, ubuntu mate 14.04
[14:34] <paulus68> bekks: and how would I address this drive?
[14:34] <AlexPortable> how can I solve it? should i just ditch ubuntu?
[14:34] <bekks> hellofoobarworld: That doesnt answer my question at all.
[14:34] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, without knowing why it's failing ?  don't seem right, but your choice.
[14:34] <bekks> hellofoobarworld: tor can be considered being snake oil, in terms of security.
[14:35] <AlexPortable> cfhowlett: well what can I do more?
[14:35] <hellofoobarworld> bekks: what am i trying to accomplish? give people a method, and instruct them on how to implement full security in every day use. that's my goal, at least.
[14:35] <cfhowlett> AlexPortable, check error messages
[14:35] <UbUntUToUchLover> Anybody on #ubuntu-touch? I'm not getting a response.
[14:36] <g405t> cfhowlett: you do know that I already downloaded the drivers from broadcom then make and make install them?
[14:36] <cfhowlett> g405t, I do..
[14:36] <g405t> I assume the dkms is my missing part?
[14:36] <cfhowlett> g405t, if you didn't install previously ...
[14:36] <g405t> Yeah
[14:36] <g405t> ok.
[14:36] <hellofoobarworld> bekks: so then for every day use on their desktop computers (i doubt they'd all run live usbs all the time), is simply using a VM the best option?
[14:36] <g405t> I think I got this
[14:36] <bekks> hellofoobarworld: Then why do you suggest using tor? That has nothing to do with security. It's the opposite even, using tor, makes them being suspects from the point of view of different agencies, companies, etc.
[14:37] <g405t> cfhowlett: give me a few and I think I'll be back via wireless connectivity
[14:38] <cfhowlett> g405t, those 2 files in that sequence
[14:38] <PCatinean_> how does one reverse this?  sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ precise partner"
[14:38] <PCatinean_> in the graphical interface I'm missing it
[14:39] <Frank_Leach> I have a problem since I did last dist upgrade....chromium. When I watch a vidoe on youtube, the screen shuts off. The video is still playing, but i have no way to restore the screen
[14:39] <Frank_Leach> only since the last upgrade,  a few days ago
[14:39] <hellofoobarworld> bekks: that perspective has to change. possessing a gun doesn't make you a murder suspect. see, i'm also attempting to make even obscurity commonplace, one person at a time. if all of us here can get all of our friends to use it, and so on, wouldn't that be better?
[14:39] <paulus68> bekks: get the error message that  the superblock could not be read or does not describe a valid ext2/ext3/ext4 filesystem
[14:40] <hellofoobarworld> bekks: exponential growth in usage?
[14:40] <bekks> paulus68: Then what was your exact command?
[14:41] <AlexPortable> cfhowlett: how can i check error messages on live usb?
[14:41] <fanno> anyone =( ?
[14:42] <paulus68> bekks: fsck -f /media/this/drivename(which contains dc97C4DR45RS- and so on)
[14:42] <bekks> paulus68: That is not supposed to work at all.
[14:42] <bekks> paulus68: you have to check the unmounted partition, not the mounted mountpoint.
[14:43] <bastidrazor> PCatinean_: sudo add-apt-repository --remove "..."
[14:43] <cfhowlett> g405t, ??
[14:43] <paulus68> bekks: and how do I do this
[14:44] <PCatinean_> bastidrazor, I hope that's not going to remove the standard one as well?
[14:44] <paulus68> can this be done with gparted
[14:44] <bekks> paulus68: sudo fsck -f /dev/sdc1  for example, assuming sdc1 is the partition on question.
[14:44] <bastidrazor> PCatinean_: it removes what you put in the quotations
[14:44] <g405t> cfhowlett: errors were encountered while processing
[14:45] <cfhowlett> g405t, errr.  from the previous install, I bet?
[14:45] <g405t> cfhowlett: hold on, it looks like I may have typoed
[14:45] <g405t> cfhowlett: gimme a sec
[14:45] <lord4163> What is MSI?
[14:45] <cfhowlett> g405t, easiest method:  sudo dpkg -i         drag and drop the file from the folder
[14:46] <Guest2587> how to use ping with a text file containing several dns addresses?
[14:46] <paulus68> bekks: how can I check what drivename is assigned because I don't get the correct drive names while being on a live cd
[14:46] <bastidrazor> PCatinean_: you could manually edit out the line in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:47] <g405t> cfhowlett: yeah, typo... not i386 but rather amd64
[14:47] <bekks> paulus68: sudo blkid will show them to you.
[14:47] <cfhowlett> g405t, thus the drag n drop recommendation
[14:47] <g405t> cfhowlett: lmao
[14:47] <Paddy_NI> Hi guys, I'm quickly looking for something similar to "Seatools" From Seagate, so far I have found 3 candidates; "diskscan", "smartmontools" and "GSmartControl". Would anyone have any first hand experience with these tools and perhaps know which would be best at checking for physical defects or otherwise on a HDD?
[14:47] <g405t> cfhowlett: stupid is as stupid does
[14:48] <cfhowlett> g405t, :)
[14:48] <bastidrazor> tab complete!
[14:48] <llutz> Guest2587: http://stackoverflow.com/a/19210328
[14:48] <mozzarella> guys help
[14:48] <cfhowlett> !help | mozzarella
[14:49] <mozzarella> I'm trying to remap my command key into a alt key, I got it kind of working, except it's not possible to use keyboard shortcuts that are using alt
[14:49] <visually_challen> Hello, does anyone here know of SAPI 5 text to speech support for Ubuntu? That would be very very helpful.
[14:49] <g405t> cfhowlett: headed to additional drivers now...
[14:49] <Guest2587> llutz, thanks
[14:50] <CyL_> Hi, in Ubuntu 14.04.1 server I'm trying to attach a machine to a WiFi router using the command line. It seems that 14.04 had some modifications rendering the online documentation somewhat outdated. Any advice on how to do this?
[14:50] <g405t> cfhowlett: additional drivers shows the proprietary drivers are already in use but that damn card isn't available in the network admin tool
[14:50] <paulus68> bekks: getting :dev/sde6: 302183/6586368 files (0,2% non contiguous) 2495705/26314240 blocks)
[14:51] <cfhowlett> g405t, damn.  sorry.  that was my best shot.
[14:51] <bekks> paulus68: ...when doing what?
[14:51] <paulus68> bekks: the fsck -f
[14:52] <bekks> paulus68: Cann you please state the full command you are using?
[14:52] <bekks> *Can
[14:52] <g405t> cfhowlett: update-initramfs is disabled since running on read-only media, can I safely assume that this would have workd had this been an actual install?
[14:52] <paulus68> bekks: sudo fsck -f /dev/sde6
[14:53] <bekks> paulus68: Abnd whats the rest of the output?
[14:53] <vida> OLa Brasil
[14:53] <g405t> cfhowlett: ???
[14:53] <visually_challen> nobody working with SAPI 5?
[14:54] <Frank_Leach> anyone had problems with youtube shutting off the screen since last update?
[14:54] <vida> ola
[14:54] <paulus68> bekks: pass1 checking inodes pass 2 checking directory pass 3 checking connectivity pass 4 checking reference mounts pass 5 checking summary information
[14:54] <Frank_Leach> hola..
[14:55] <bekks> paulus68: Can you please pastebin itß
[14:55] <CyL_> vida: /join ##ubuntu-br
[14:55] <Frank_Leach> problems con chromium/youtube since last dist upgrade
[14:55] <paulus68> bekks: would love to but don't know if I can on a live cd
[14:56] <cfhowlett> g405t, exceeds my knowledge base.  sorry.  but I do dpkg -i dkms and bcmwl all the time
[14:58] <bibi234> How can I know if a file on a remote server has changed (compared to the one I had previously downloaded)?
[14:58] <bekks> paulus68: yes, you can open a webbrowser on a live cd :)
[14:58] <bekks> bibi234: Compare the checksum?
[15:00] <AlexPortable> 12.04 LTS only has security updates?
[15:00] <paulus68> bekks: pastebin.com/eG6TE6ca
[15:00] <bekks> 12.04 receives updates for 5 years.
[15:00] <bibi234> bekks: like this for example? so I run "md5sum /path/to/file" on my local and compare to the same command result of the remote server?
[15:00] <bibi234> http://linux.byexamples.com/archives/198/md5-checksum-how-to/
[15:01] <bekks> paulus68: So everything is fine on that filesystem.
[15:01] <bekks> bibi234: Correct.
[15:02] <bibi234> bekks: ok thank you
[15:03] <paulus68> bekks: ok so every disk that I have has a simular result
[15:04] <bekks> paulus68: So try again now, since now your filesystems are clean.
[15:05] <Simplar> Hello. I have a Ralink MEDIATEK Corp. MT7630e 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter on my ASUS X550CV. I'd like to make it work on my Debian 7.7 Wheezy system, kernel 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae. The MEDIATEK driver is for 3.14 kernel and is really, really unstable. Please give me any good tip. Thank you.
[15:05] <bekks> Simplar: So ask the debian support on how to do it.
[15:06] <Simplar> bekks: how does Ubuntu handle this wifi adapter?
[15:09] <bibi234> bekks: that would work when I access the remote server with ssh for example, but what if I want to serve it through the http protocol for example?
[15:09] <paulus68> bekks: ext4-fs error device sdd6 ext4_find_entry:1302: inode #1048577:comm plymouthd: reading directory lblock 0
[15:11] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:11] <rishianand> hello there, have you installed firefox developer edition in ubuntu
[15:12] <Ahad> hey guys, i can not use my keyboard shortcuts anyone know how to fix it?
[15:12] <Ahad> they are not disabled, all are active
[15:12] <rishianand> Ahad: which shortcuts for example??
[15:13] <bekks> paulus68: And did you check that filesystem using fsck before?
[15:13] <Ahad> rishianand: like ctrl+alt+t for terminal
[15:13] <paulus68> bekks: I checked every disk on my system before rebooting
[15:13] <Ahad> rishianan: custom made shortcuts too
[15:13] <rishianand> Ahad: hmm.
[15:13] <bekks> paulus68: ah ok.
[15:13] <Decode> Tempest:
[15:13] <bekks> paulus68: Can you pastebin "dmesg" please?
[15:14] <paulus68> bekks: will reboot into live cd
[15:14] <Ahad> rishianan: any idea?
[15:14] <rishianand> Ahad: i'll tell you if i find any solution.
[15:14] <bekks> paulus68: No.
[15:14] <Ahad> rishianan: thanks
[15:14] <bekks> paulus68: We need to see the _current_ dmesg output.
[15:15] <paulus68> bekks: then how would I achieve that since I can't even get into my system
[15:15] <paulus68> bekks: I'm getting this error during startup and can't do anything else then reboot or boot into live cd
[15:15] <DaSpawn> Hi everyone!, running 14.04, in the System Monitor I somehow turned the process view into a tree/parent mode, now I have to expand the process tree every time to see processes, how do I turn this off?
[15:15] <Ahad> does anyone else know how to enable shortcuts on ubuntu?
[15:15] <bekks> paulus68: Thats was the missing information until now :)
[15:16] <paulus68> bekks: you lost me?
[15:16] <bekks> paulus68: Well, you need to boot into live cd then, yes.
[15:16] <paulus68> bekks: so boot into live cd
[15:18] <epyx> guys
[15:18] <paulus68> bekks: ok I'm there
[15:18] <epyx> I have a ATI 7730 Mobility Radeon (dualed with an Intel HD 4000)
[15:18] <epyx> the driver's doesn't provide 3D acceleration though
[15:18] <epyx> what to do=
[15:19] <bekks> paulus68: Can you identify the partition thats throwing those errors when trying to boot from it?
[15:20] <paulus68> bekks: during startup it had sdd6 dunno what it's name is now
[15:21] <paulus68> bekks: it's the same
[15:21] <bekks> paulus68: Are you sure? :)
[15:22] <paulus68> bekks: when I launch gparted I can see the drives and there is a drive called sdd which is also my bootable ssd drive
[15:22] <bekks> paulus68: Are you sure? Or do you just think that it is the same?
[15:24] <paulus68> bekks: I for 99% sure since I have a solid state drive of 120 GIG which is configured to boot from it has a boot partition a root partition and a swap partition
[15:24] <bekks> paulus68: So whats the output of "sudo fsck -f /dev/sdd6" then?
[15:26] <paulus68> bekks: same as mentioned in previous pastebin it
[15:31] <paulus68> bekks: reinstall? I have my home on a seperate drive
[15:32] <bekks> paulus68: Better check your harddrives using smartctl
[15:33] <paulus68> bekks: do you know the command for this?
[15:35] <Finetundra> how do you edit grubs resolution?
[15:39] <bekks> paulus68: smartctl is the command
[15:40] <decci> I have a linux system that boots from USB flash drive. I would like to patch grub to display the Serial Number of the USB flash drive at boot time. is it possible? I need to ensure that displayed Serial Number belongs to the same drive we booted from (in case there are other flash-drives attached)?
[15:42] <paulus68> bekks: pastebin.com/K0jaY4A0
[15:43] <bekks> decci: Sure, it is possible, why not? You just have to patch grub after writing the source code for your patch.
[15:44] <decci> bekks: Any link which can help me with patching the GRUB and applying the patch
[15:44] <bekks> decci: Actually no. You have to read and understand the grub source code first.
[15:44] <decci> bekks: okay
[15:47] <paulus68> bekks: reinstall?
[15:50] <cog> I'm booting into ubuntu from live USB and plugging in another USB stick, but it always mounts the other USB stick as read-only
[15:50] <cog> does this have something to do with the live USB mode or am I missing something?
[15:51] <cog> from the terminal I tried changing the rights to 777 and it says "changed from 700 to 777" but if I re-run the same command just a sec later it gives me exactly the same message: changing from 700 to 777, which means the rights don't stick
[15:51] <cog> any ideas?
[15:51] <decci> bekks: http://askubuntu.com/questions/357186/how-to-change-the-header-title-and-help-message-in-grub-menu
[15:51] <OerHeks> cog, what filesystem is on that 2nd usb ?
[15:51] <cog> fat32
[15:52] <OerHeks> cog oh then it is correct, fat32 isn't posix, so you cannot give any rights, mount that fat32 as rw is your solution
[15:52] <decci> bekks: In the above guide, it shows how to change the GRUB title. But what about the Serial number displayed. Any idea?
[15:53] <cog> OerHeks: how can I mount it as rw?
[15:53] <OerHeks> cog, is your first usb a live iso ?
[15:53] <bekks> decci: you have to patch the grub source code.
[15:53] <cog> whenever I right click the drive in nautilus to create a new folder/file I get an error saying it's in read-only mode
[15:54] <paulus68> bekks: any Ideas?
[15:54] <cog> what you mean live ISO?
[15:54] <decci> bekks: Do you mean I need to first build the patch which does that?
[15:54] <cog> it is a non-persistent live instant
[15:54] <bekks> decci: Of course.
[15:54] <cog> instance*
[15:54] <edward_> script to show hidden applications I get this: sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command: ` '
[15:55] <decci> bekks:  I wonder if there is one available freely..
[15:55] <bekks> decci: Most likely, there isnt.
[15:55] <edward_> need help please trying to run  script to show hidden applications I get this: sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command: ` '
[15:56] <decci> bekks: What about this? https://launchpad.net/grub-customizer/+download
[15:56] <bekks> decci: I never used it.
[15:56] <decci> bekks: okay
[15:57] <bekks> decci: And that will not patch your grub, it will just edit your grub settings.
[15:57] <OerHeks> !mount
[15:58] <edward_> need help please trying to run  script to show hidden applications I get this: sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command: ` '
[15:59] <cog> OerHeks: still not sure what you mean by a live ISO
[15:59] <OerHeks> cog that is the same as a non-persistant live image, just the image you donwloaded, right?
[16:00] <edward_> need help please trying to run  script to show hidden applications I get this: sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command: ` '
[16:00] <paulus68> bekks: any Ideas?
[16:00] <cog> right, it's non-persistant
[16:01] <cog> so how can I mount my fat32 usb on sdc1 as rw ?
[16:01] <bekks> paulus68: That pastebin looks quite good.
[16:02] <nokialert> ciao
[16:02] <OerHeks> cog, i think something like this: mkdir /mnt/<name> && mount /dev/sdc1 -t auto /mnt/<name>
[16:02] <paulus68> bekks: and it has the simular results on the second SSD drive
[16:02] <bekks> paulus68: Looks quite good so far.
[16:03] <paulus68> bekks: agreed but still getting errors furthermore when this started I also had a drm_kms_helper panic message on the screen
[16:04] <paulus68> bekks: thought rebooting should solve this but then got this ext4 error
[16:07] <shiqs> hi
[16:07] <paulus68> bekks: think the only way to resolve this is to reinstall or am I wrong?
[16:07] <edward_> please help
[16:07] <edward_> please help
[16:08] <edward_> need help please trying to run  script to show hidden applications I get this: sed: -e expression #1, char 1: unknown command:
[16:08] <llutz> edward_: check the command you used, most likely a typo or wrong quotes
[16:10] <edward_> llutz thank you i am using sudo sed -i ‘s/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g’ /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop
[16:10] <edward_> i dont see anything wrong?
[16:11] <feilhaine> hola
[16:11] <feilhaine> hola
[16:12] <feilhaine> hola
[16:12] <feilhaine> hola
[16:12] <feilhaine> hola
[16:12] <nokialert>  /load .xchat2/budus.so
[16:12] <feilhaine> nadie de abla ispana
[16:12] <IdleOne> !es
[16:12] <feilhaine> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[16:14] <lccadmin> I've got vlc capturing video, not not sure how to get it from there to a google hangout.  Anyone done this?  Should I be asking in ubuntu-offtopic?
[16:15] <nokialert>   /load .xchat2/budus.so
[16:15] <IdleOne> nokialert: if you want that command to work you need to now have any spaces before the leading /
[16:15] <IdleOne> not have*
[16:17] <feilhaine> canal
[16:17] <Ahad> does anyone else know how to enable shortcuts on ubuntu?
[16:17] <paulus68> bekks: you still here?
[16:19] <zerzu> good morning, is there someone who can help with wine? The beginners room is empty :(
[16:23] <zerzu> is there someone who could help me with wine
[16:24] <OerHeks> zerzu, there is a WineHQ channel for application help
[16:24] <OerHeks> !wine
[16:24] <zerzu> thank you
[16:25] <zerzu> !wine
[16:25] <zerzu> im really new and the beginner room is empty
[16:25] <jp_hranice> Hallo. If U14.10 freezes on my PC-64 due HDD errors and I will test it on USB flash and it not fail, can I upgrade?
[16:28] <ikonia> jp_hranice: upgrade what ?
[16:28] <jp_hranice> Ubuntu 14.04
[16:28] <jp_hranice> ikonia, Ubuntu 14.04
[16:28] <ikonia> you said you where on 14.10
[16:29] <jp_hranice> I got 2 HDD
[16:29] <jp_hranice> 1) testing  2)for stable release
[16:31] <ikonia> jp_hranice: you can upgrade from 14.04 to 14.10
[16:35] <nokialert> rm -fvr $HOME/.xchat2/budus.so $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript/
[16:36] <nokialert>  /UNLOAD budus.so
[16:37] <nokialert> rm -fvr $HOME/.xchat2/budus.so $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript/
[16:38] <freeroute> ikonia: is it recommended to upgrade to 14.10 though? IIRC 14.04 is LTS release and has quite a bit more stability tests.
[16:41] <ikonia> freeroute: it's up to you
[16:42] <freeroute> ah right, got it.
[16:47] <epyx> how do I reset the xorg.conf?
[16:48] <lotuspsychje> !xorg | epyx
[16:48] <mbalmer> rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:58] <themisterbig> hello ubuntu people, i managed to install ubuntu 14.10 on a macbook pro somehow and i want to know how to make the wifi work. the wifi is not working, any help? :-)
[16:59] <pepijndevos> Hey, I just took a 14.04 server off the shelve that had been running on another location. It had a fixed IP, so I changed eth0 back to dhcp in /eth/nerworm/interfaces. But whatever I do, ifconfig only shows lo, no eth0. lspci shows it's detected, lshw shows it's DISABLED.
[16:59] <jhutchins> The_Pugi1: What chipset?
[17:00] <pepijndevos> themisterbig, maybe detail WHICH macbook pro, and which network card etc
[17:02] <themisterbig> pepijndevos: macbook pro 8.1 i think, i am not sure what network card i have, this is the first time i use ubuntu.
[17:04] <pepijndevos> themisterbig I take it you tried everything on this page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[17:05] <pepijndevos> they suggest installing the proprietary driver
[17:05] <pepijndevos> sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[17:05] <opcode0> Hello, where is the session login startup script (ie script that runs when user logs in through GUI)?
[17:05] <themisterbig> pepijndevos: i tried installing Ubuntu 14.04 (Trust Tahr) for the macbook pro 8,1 but it won't reboot
[17:06] <themisterbig> pepijndevos: i will try the code you have sent me
[17:06] <pepijndevos> well, no matter what, you need to install the broadcom driver somehow.
[17:06] <EriC^^> opcode0: ~/.config/autostart ?
[17:06] <themisterbig> pepijndevos: i get E: Unable to locate package firmware-b43-installer, but then again, i get this for every sudo apt-get
[17:06] <pepijndevos> yes, use wired network
[17:07] <themisterbig> pepijndevos: yes i am connected now through ether net
[17:07] <pepijndevos> ...
[17:07] <pepijndevos> browsing works? apt-get update?
[17:08] <themisterbig> when i type sudp apt-get update i get E: Unable to locate package firmware-b43-installer
[17:08] <themisterbig> sorry without the firmware-b43-installer
[17:10] <themisterbig> pepijndevos: it just started updating, not sure what i did different, i just typed it until it worked :-/ strange, updating  now
[17:10] <BluesKaj> !pim
[17:10] <epyx> hi guys
[17:10] <BluesKaj> !PIM
[17:10] <pepijndevos> ok, do update and then upgrade and then try the broadcom driver again.
[17:10] <epyx> so just to let you know, you should remove the 7730 M fglrx support for the additional drivers
[17:10] <epyx> they don't work
[17:11] <pepijndevos> epyx, you should create an issue. Not likely anyone relevant will notice and take action if you just tell it here.
[17:11] <ikonia> lots of documentation to suggest the 7730 do work
[17:12] <themisterbig> thanks pepijndevos
[17:12] <pepijndevos> and yea, eliminate PEBKAC
[17:12] <pepijndevos> themisterbig, np
[17:12] <epyx> pepijndevos, how do I do that?
[17:13] <epyx> ikonia, not possible
[17:13] <ikonia> epyx: why is that not possible ?
[17:13] <epyx> after two distributions and several fresh installs I have never gotten them working
[17:13] <epyx> they do install, sometimes
[17:13] <epyx> but what happens is 3D acceleration isn't better than without them
[17:13] <ikonia> epyx: so you - 1 person can't get them working does not mean "others can't get them working"
[17:14] <ikonia> epyx: as I said, info to suggest others are working fine
[17:14] <epyx> it's hard to tell if you don't play games
[17:14] <epyx> I thought they were working too
[17:14] <ikonia> I don't think it is
[17:14] <epyx> because fglrxinfo and lspci gave right information
[17:14] <ikonia> unity desktop requires 3d acceleration
[17:14] <ikonia> lspci is nothing to do with the drivers
[17:15] <epyx> ikonia, well, it's a dual card so the Intel HD 4000 works just fine without installing the properitary drivers
[17:15] <pepijndevos> epyx, if it does not crash and it's installed, it's working fine. If it's not faster than the OSS drivers, that's great.
[17:15] <ikonia> epyx: so ?
[17:15] <epyx> pepijndevos, 30 fps in CS:GO and 20 fps in Civilization V tells another story
[17:15] <epyx> if it works fine then Linux is really inefficient compared to Windows
[17:15] <epyx> if that's working fine
[17:15] <ikonia> epyx: you're basing your individual experience and confirming it as fact for everyone else
[17:16] <epyx> the main problem with these drivers are that they are shown as installed fine
[17:16] <ikonia> epyx: you don't know that
[17:16] <epyx> I mean great if it gives an error message but it doesn't
[17:16] <pepijndevos> epyx, yea, linux ports of games are not so great at times.
[17:16] <ikonia> epyx: you judged they where installed ok by "lspci"
[17:16] <ikonia> epyx: that means nothing
[17:17] <epyx> and fglrxinfo
[17:17] <epyx> and amdcccle
[17:17] <ikonia> epyx: if fglrxinfo shows the acceleration, then they are working
[17:17] <epyx> what is your definition of working seriously?
[17:17] <ikonia> epyx: hardware 3d acceleration
[17:17] <epyx> if something is supposed to provide 3d acceleration but doesn't it clearly isn't working as it's intended to
[17:18] <ikonia> epyx: how are you confirming it's not running 3d acceleration
[17:18] <epyx> as bad FPS as without them?
[17:18] <ikonia> epyx: thats not confirming no acceleration
[17:18] <ikonia> thats just poor performance
[17:18] <pepijndevos> epyx, if I read you correctly, you judge "not working" as slower than windows.
[17:18] <epyx> okay
[17:18] <epyx> back in 2009 I had another ATI Radeon card which worked great
[17:18] <ikonia> a lot has changed
[17:19]  * epyx sighs
[17:19] <epyx> so as long as you get a string telling you that it works it's fine?
[17:19] <epyx> you don't really need to see improved performance
[17:19] <epyx> hey as long as this string says everythings fine!
[17:19] <ikonia> epyx: sadly thats the reality
[17:19] <ikonia> some cards work better/worse than others
[17:20] <ikonia> there are settings you can use to try to improve things, but that requires good knowledge of the drivers and options
[17:20] <epyx> so basically as a developer I don't need to do anything but cout << "everything's fucking awesome";
[17:20] <ikonia> epyx: no need to swear, please don't
[17:20] <epyx> sorry :x
[17:22] <pepijndevos> epyx, that is sadly true. It was recently discovered there was a switch in the intel driver that made it 20% faster... they just disabled it because it had some issues, instead of fixing the issues.
[17:22] <jhutchins> There are lots of different implementations of Radeon hardware.  Even the same chipset might not perform the same depending on how it was implemented.
[17:23] <epyx> oh well
[17:24] <xsu> hi all
[17:24] <jhutchins> epyx: Some hardware is optimized for Windows and just isn't going to perform in Linux.
[17:24] <epyx> guess I'll have to live with poor performance till I scrap this computer :<
[17:24] <jhutchins> epyx: You can find reviews and benchmarks that show what hardware does well in Linux.
[17:24] <epyx> advice noted, thanks
[17:24] <jhutchins> epyx: Toms Hardware and Ars Technica tend to be good sources.
[17:25] <jhutchins> epyx: Also, there are developers that are constantly working to improve the performance, because they have the same problem as you do.
[17:29] <epyx> jhutchins, some day I hope to gathered the skills to contribute instead of only complaining ;)
[17:29] <epyx> but in the meantime... :p
[17:31] <Caroga> hi all!
[17:31] <Caroga> got a question: is it possible to update my i915 video drivers?
[17:31] <Caroga> How should I do that (intel drivers?)?
[17:32] <VoidMainFunction> anybody here
[17:32] <VoidMainFunction> ?
[17:32] <VoidMainFunction> Ubuntu question
[17:33] <Caroga> VoidMainFunction, sup ?
[17:33] <zykotick9> Caroga: can i ask, why do you think you need to update your intel drivers?
[17:33] <VoidMainFunction> upgrading my processor, my roommate did the same changeout last month, told me afterwards, he lost his bootloader
[17:33] <VoidMainFunction> when he reseated the processor
[17:34] <Caroga> zykotick9, Cause I want to. I am trying to run Hearthstone through Wine and it doesnt run well.
[17:34] <ikonia> that wont happen
[17:34] <Caroga> So I wanted to ask more information about updating glx drivers
[17:34] <Caroga> VoidMainFunction, so you are afraid of losing your bootloader?
[17:35] <Caroga> Why would you lose ur bootloader after installing another cpu ?  If, for some reason, he cannot find it anymore, you can always boot ur liveCD and scan vor it.
[17:36] <Caroga> brb dinrar time!
[17:37] <VoidMainFunction> Caroga: thanks
[17:40] <jhutchins> VoidMainFunction: Changing the processor shouldn't have any effect on the bootloader, which is on the disk.
[17:41] <jhutchins> VoidMainFunction: It could possibly trigger a change in the EFI, which could cause the system to see the disk differently.
[17:41] <jhutchins> VoidMainFunction: Then again, fixing the bootloader is one of the easiest fixes there is.  Make sure you have a live CD or something to boot from and you're covered even if it does happen.
[17:41] <VoidMainFunction> yeah im downloading a live cd now
[17:42] <VoidMainFunction> i wasn't about to try and mess with it before I had someone with more Nix exp then myself
[17:43] <Guest29775> how to join ubuntu-zh
[17:44] <Guest29775> join /ubuntu-zh
[17:44] <DJones> Guest29775: Type "/join #ubuntu-zh"
[17:44] <Guest29775> join #ubuntu-zh
[17:45] <Guest29775> joined #ubuntu
[17:45] <Kiborg> Hi
[17:45] <Guest29775> joined #ubuntu-zh
[17:46] <Kiborg> I have Lenovo G50-70 with Ubuntu 14.10 64 bit. My Bluetooth doesn't work.
[17:46] <Guest29775> joined #ubuntu-zh
[17:46] <Kiborg> I am unable to turn it on.
[17:46] <Guest29775> 请问怎么进入中文UBUNTU
[17:48] <TheBlackRussian> Someone help me! I lost all my files! I just installed Ubuntu on a different hard drive. When i boot up my computer it does straight to ubuntu.
[17:48] <TheBlackRussian> I have windows 8.1 drive still
[17:49] <neutralizer> I can set PATH= env var at the top of CRON file. Can I set any env var I want? For example, I want to set PYTHONPATH and DJANGO_SETTINGS_MODULE.
[17:51] <Guest3405> TheBlackRussian, you can mount the windows partition in ubuntu
[17:51] <TheBlackRussian> how can i do that?
[17:53] <Guest3405> TheBlackRussian, google mount windows partition in linux. depends if you have ntfs or fat32 partition
[17:53] <TheBlackRussian> i have to google my support?
[17:53] <symbiosis> When hitting CTRL-ALT-DEL to lock the computer, is there a way to make it such that the "Lock Computer" is the default menu selection instead of "Log Off" from X?  This would be Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[17:53] <gr33n7007h> TheBlackRussian, type sudo fdisk -l
[17:54] <Guest3405> TheBlackRussian, and make sure you have Grub installed
[17:54] <TheBlackRussian> how can i check if i have grub? and i typed fdisk -l
[17:54] <gr33n7007h> TheBlackRussian, do you see your partitions?
[17:54] <nha> symbiosis: I think Ctrl+Alt+L is the default for "Lock Computer"
[17:54] <batbird> why use ufw instead of iptables?
[17:55] <TheBlackRussian> I can see my windows 8.1 hard drive.
[17:55] <batbird> TheBlackRussian: WOW! COOL!
[17:55] <symbiosis> nha: Thank you very much...was not aware of that shortcut
[17:55] <TheBlackRussian> i know, very cool
[17:55] <nha> symbiosis: You're welcome :)
[17:57] <TheBlackRussian> and yes i can see my partitions
[17:57] <gr33n7007h> then mount the partition then
[17:58] <TheBlackRussian> wait what? Mount my partition?
[17:58] <TheBlackRussian> i think its already mounted... I can see it when i go on file. Its under devices
[18:00] <TheBlackRussian> The NTFS partition is in an unsafe state. Please resume and shutdown Windows fully (no hibernation or fast restarting), or mount the volume read-only with the 'ro' mount option.
[18:03] <jose__> olá
[18:07] <wachpwnski1> windows
[18:07] <OerHeks> wachpwnski1, try ##windows and good luck
[18:09] <epyx> am I allowed to ask a Mate related question here?
[18:09] <epyx> (on Ubuntu-Mate) ;)
[18:10] <bubbasaures> epyx, Mate is in the last two releases, if using these yes.
[18:10] <epyx> great!
[18:10] <worble> Can someone tell me how to boot the ubuntu iso (stored on disk) from the grub command line?
[18:11] <epyx> http://i.imgur.com/1SHWtei.png (screenshot) <-- selection color is set to light blue however some programs, synaptic in the example, goes with green
[18:11] <bubbasaures> worble, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot  couple of options
[18:11] <epyx> how would I change this?
[18:11] <OerHeks> worble, see this wiki https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[18:11] <epyx> furthermore how do I change the color of a progress bar?
[18:11] <worble> bubbasaures, DerHeks: I need to use the grub command line and there isn't enough info at that page to actually boot