[05:53] <OvenWerk1> zequence: It looks like ubuntustudio-menu has been released. However the changelog in our branch still says UNRELEASED does that mean I should change that to trusty?
[05:53] <OvenWerk1> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-menu/+bug/1295354
[05:54] <OvenWerk1> see the launchpad janitor entry at the bottom.
[10:43] <zequence> OvenWerk1: The safest way is to make sure there's nothing else diffing except for the changelog, by comparing lp:ubuntu/ubuntustudio-menu with lp:ubuntustudio-menu. It's an error on the uploaders part, since they should push that change into our branch as well
[10:43] <zequence> could be not everyone has permission though
[10:44] <zequence> of course, most probably, only the release word has been changed in the changelog. But, if ones to double check..
[10:45] <zequence> ubuntustudio-look has been released as well
[10:45] <zequence> still waiting for ubuntustudio-default-settings


[10:13] <trijntje> the 'distro update available'  window is not translated for me. Does anyone know where I can find these strings?
[12:36] <sagaci> trijntje, did you mean update-manager, https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+source/update-manager/+pots/update-manager/en_AU/+translate?batch=18&show=all&search=available
[16:24] <trijntje> sagaci, no, its another popup window, which also contains a link to the release notes tec
[16:24] <trijntje> *etc


[00:00] <MannyLNJ> OerHeks, it looks like the error is Failed to get properties: Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.systemd1': timed out (service_start_timeout=25000ms)
[00:03] <tomreyn> what does "dpkg -l systemd" (in another terminal / tty) report your systemd version is?
[00:04] <abtm> question when you have a moment, in prep for reload of the system with fresh OS, I would like to take an inventory of the installed packages so that I can compare it to what the new base install has
[00:04] <MannyLNJ> tomreyn, https://pastebin.com/YBU56KAE
[00:04] <abtm> that way I can identify what is missing and make sure not to miss anything
[00:04] <abtm> what is the command line to query apt for the full list of installed pkgs?
[00:05] <peq> apt list --installed
[00:05] <abtm> ty sir
[00:05] <sarnold> abtm: the output of dpkg --get-selections can be fed into dpkg --set-selections -- but dpkg -l | cat is another option
[00:05] <tomreyn> hmm systemd 237-3ubuntu10.24 is up to date for bionic.
[00:06] <tomreyn> based o the timeouts i assumed this could be https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=916678
[00:09] <abtm> ty sirs
[00:09] <abtm> saved all of the outputs
[00:10] <Bashing-om> abtm: 'debfoste'r only lists those packages manually installed.
[00:11] <Bashing-om> abtm: 'debfoster'.
[00:11] <abtm> adding that to output
[00:27] <rshah_sp> any idea how to get netplan to work with a VLAN with DHCP?
[00:27] <rshah_sp> this is what I have now
[00:27] <rshah_sp> network:                                                                                version: 2                                                                                renderer: networkd                                                                                ethernets:
[00:27] <rshah_sp>                                                                          ens7:                                                                                match:                                                                                macaddress: 5a:00:02:2f:5a:14
[00:27] <rshah_sp>                                  mtu: 1450                                                                                set-name: ens7                                                                                vlans:                                                                                vlan20:
[00:27] <rshah_sp>                                                                                link: ens7                                                                                id: 20                                                                                dhcp4: true
[00:28] <rshah_sp> wow that did not format well, but this does not work, not getting a dhcp address
[00:28] <AngelKde> rshah_sp,  please use pastebin
[00:29] <TJ-> rshah_sp: is there a DHCP server on the VLAN?
[00:29] <AngelKde> https://pastebin.com/login
[00:29] <rshah_sp> https://pastebin.com/ik9epkjR
[00:29] <rshah_sp> yes, there is a DHCP server on vlan
[00:29] <rshah_sp> and if I move the dhcp4: true to the section under interface (not under vlan), I get a DHCP address from the Default VLAN DHCP server
[00:29] <TJ-> rshah_sp: check the systemd-networkd journal for clues... it may be requesting a lease and not getting a reply
[00:31] <rshah_sp> TJ- good idea, checking
[00:32] <rshah_sp> Where can I find that information? I've never checked that before
[00:32] <rshah_sp> I think I ahve to request the logfile be generated right?
[00:33] <rshah_sp> got it actually
[00:35] <rshah_sp> https://pastebin.com/D9HJ2ArQ
[00:35] <rshah_sp> here is all the info re vlan20 which I am trying to use
[00:37] <rshah_sp> Seems it is trying to get a DHCP4, but not getting one
[00:37] <rshah_sp> but I don't see an error
[00:40] <TJ-> rshah_sp: time to enable debug output from systemd-networkd I think... one nice thing when using NetworkManager instead,  is, it uses dhclient and that reports each request in the log so you can easily tell if it's requesting and not getting a reply
[00:42] <rshah_sp> I can switch to networkmanager, no reason I was using networkd as far as I know
[00:44] <TJ-> netplan generator puts the systemd-networkd config in /run/systemd/network/ --- might be worth double-checking those look sane, but the log seems to show vlan20 is trying to get a lease, so I'd put tcpdump on that vlan and watch the packets, see if systemd-networkd is sending requests and not getting replies
[00:45] <mnathani> what are some things you can do on AWS that you can't really do yourself on any other platform?
[00:51] <rshah_sp> TJ- https://pastebin.com/G2WNmPtS
[00:53] <MannyLNJ_> So it does appear that I anm stuck in a catch 22 I can't do anything because of this error Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.systemd1' and I can't find a solution
[00:53] <rshah_sp> TJ- https://pastebin.com/rp4sDYCM
[00:55] <fleabeard> hello friends, would anyone know why I can close out chromium and work for hours and then later bring it up and it's telling me it crashed and I can recover my last site visited? I'm not seeing any crashing when I close the browser at all and am just confused.
[00:56] <TJ-> rshah_sp: so you're not seeing replies?
[00:56] <rshah_sp> it appears no, not when the dhcp4: true is in the VLAN section. when I move that line to the interface section, I see a reply from my dhcp server
[00:57] <rshah_sp> i'm diagnosing on the dhcp server end now to see what it is doing when the request comes in
[00:57] <rshah_sp> I"m using PfSense
[00:58] <TJ-> rshah_sp: on both the client is broadcasting a request (<IP_ADDRESS>.bootpc > <IP_ADDRESS>) so the reply isn't coming in
[00:58] <rshah_sp> seems to be the case.
[00:58] <rshah_sp> should the client be including the VLAN tag when it sends out the request?
[00:59] <TJ-> rshah_sp: the client won't know about the VLAN, its just an ethernet link as far as it is concerned
[00:59] <rshah_sp> and by client you mean the Ubuntu box?
[00:59] <TJ-> rshah_sp: yes, and specifically the dhcp client on that
[01:00] <rshah_sp> so what does defining the VLAN in netplan do?
[01:00] <TJ-> rshah_sp: creates a systemd.netdev config in /run/systemd/network/
[01:01] <rshah_sp> got it. As far as I can tell, PfSense is not even receiving the DHCP request
[01:01] <rshah_sp> it receives it when I have dhcp4: true in the interface section
[01:01] <rshah_sp> but not in the vlan section
[01:04] <zette> hi, i have a problem. i just installed ubuntu mate, but when i want to play music with rhytmbox, it is no sound, even though it is full volume. how to fix it?
[01:08] <TJ-> rshah_sp: so the vlan config at one end or the other is broken
[01:08] <TJ-> rshah_sp: is it passing through a switch? are ports tagged/untagged ?
[01:09] <rshah_sp> Not passing through a switch, it's connected directly to PfSEnse
[01:09] <rshah_sp> and to throw a wrench into this, this is all on Vultr ( similar to Digital Ocean )
[01:10] <rshah_sp> I just opened a ticket, I'm not sure what they use for their Virtual NICs, so it may be that this might not work at all if PfSense cannot properly handle the VLANs
[01:10] <zette> hi, any can help me?
[01:22] <p0wder> hey, i have ubuntu 18.04 installed on 2 different pcs-
[01:22] <p0wder> i was wondering if anyone knows why they are using different kernels?
[01:23] <p0wder> this one is using 4.18.* and the other is using 4.15.*
[01:25] <p0wder> Client: HexChat 2.14.1 • OS: Ubuntu "bionic" 18.04 • CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     P8600  @ 2.40GHz (1.60GHz) • Memory: Physical: 7.5 GiB Total (6.3 GiB Free) Swap: 2.0 GiB Total (2.0 GiB Free) • Storage: 22.0 GB / 254.1 GB (232.2 GB Free) • VGA: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV620/M82 [Mobility Radeon HD 3450/3470] @ Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Memory Controlle
[01:25] <p0wder> r Hub • Uptime: 38m 9s
[01:27] <Bashing-om> p0wder: One is from the 18.04 linage, the other is 18.04.2 linage where HWE is active,
[01:27] <sarnold> p0wder: hopefully helpful https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/RollingLTSEnablementStack
[01:27] <Bashing-om> !hwe | p0wder
[01:28] <TJ-> rshah_sp: if their backend uses VLANs itself then they'd need to support 802.11ad for 802.1Q
[01:29] <p0wder> that makes sense, im pretty sure i used 18.04 for one and 18.04.02 for the other
[01:31] <p0wder> should i try to upgrade the 4.15?
[01:32] <sarnold> probably it's not worth any real effort one way or the other unless you're having problems, or have a desire for consistency for other reasons
[01:36] <p0wder> nope no problems. just wanted to make sure i had everything up to date
[02:01] <zette> hi, i have a problem. i just installed ubuntu mate, but when i want to play a music with rhytmbox, but rhytmbox is no sound, even though full volume. how to fix it?
[02:16] <OerHeks> zette, you might need to install restricted extras, for multimedia codecs and webplugins
[02:16] <OerHeks> !restricted
[02:16] <fullstack> I got a virus on ubuntu
[02:17] <fullstack> everything is redirected to clickconfirmation.com
[02:17] <fullstack> with the brave browser
[02:18] <OerHeks> remove the conf in ~/.config/  and ~/.cache/  and restart that brave browser
[02:18] <leftyfb> fullstack: that's not a virus on ubuntu.  Use a different browser or wipe it's config file(s) as OerHeks suggested
[02:18] <OerHeks> bravee browser is a funny concept, not in our repos
[02:19] <fullstack> how did the extension install itself? did it get access to my box?
[02:19] <fullstack> should I nuke and re-install?
[02:19] <leftyfb> OerHeks: it's a snap
[02:19] <leftyfb> fullstack: you should do as has been suggested to you already
[02:20] <OerHeks> oh, then it might resident under ~/.snap/brave something
[02:20] <OerHeks> seen those hoaxes before ... c drive :-D  https://www.dropbox.com/s/eakrho2sfpgdvbw/virusaanval.png?dl=0
[02:20] <fullstack> its no longer redirecting after I moved those directories
[02:20] <OerHeks> good.
[02:20] <fullstack> how did it get installed?
[02:21] <leftyfb> fullstack: you were not supposed to remove those directories. You probably just wiped the conf for every user application you have on your system
[02:21] <TJ-> lots if things will be affected if you moved $HOME/.config
[02:21] <fullstack> i only moved BraveSoftware to BraveSoftware- for both .cache and .config
[02:21] <TJ-> *phew*
[02:21] <leftyfb> ok, that's fine then
[02:22] <fullstack> so brave isn't safe?
[02:22] <fullstack> I wouldn't have installed any extension or "boomer moment" and clicked on anything
[02:22] <leftyfb> fullstack: the web pages you went to that installed the garbage aren't safe
[02:22] <fullstack> zerohedge.com
[02:23] <leftyfb> please don't share them here
[02:23] <fullstack> is there anyway to escalate out of brave and into my system? key loggers?
[02:24] <fullstack> Brave Browser: Secure, Fast & Private Web Browser with Adblocker
[02:24] <fullstack> with all new RootKit(tm)
[02:24] <fullstack> lo
[02:26] <OerHeks> oh, https://sitecheck.sucuri.net/results/zerohedge.com
[02:26] <leftyfb> as I said
[02:27] <fullstack> it is some zero day
[02:42] <Nikesh> sarnold: Not sure if you're still around but I tried `apt-get install libruby2.3` and it is not found, only `libruby` or `libruby2.5`
[02:57] <monkeyisl> i made bash script. how do i SetWorkingDirectory() like windows api? so my session will find out files there not from what i've run the script
[02:58] <MannyLNJ> Thanks everyone for the help. I rebooted and the system i working fine again. I was able to install the updates. Now I have a new issue. I installed docker but when I try to start it I get Failed to start docker.service: Unit docker.service not found.
[03:03] <monkeyisl> ubuntu there is no pushd ?
[03:04] <jml2> monkeyisl, you using windows-system-linux ?
[03:12] <macroprep> how do i obtain the C++ man pages
[03:15] <jml2> macroprep, they many need to be installed, if they aren't
[03:17] <zette> hi, i just installed restricted-extras, but it is not work to rhytmbox :(
[03:19]  * macroprep installs *man
[03:21] <jml2> sometimes you need to manually type "mandb" as root so that you don't need to wait for the daily-timer routine to run this command-- then you'll be able to access the just recently added manpages
[03:22] <macroprep> ok
[03:34] <MannyLNJ> Trying to do sudo-apt-get install docker-ce and it fails see https://pastebin.com/xHPWqBHt
[03:46] <majnoon> hi
[03:46] <majnoon> how list alsa devices ?
[03:57] <yuppie> hello, im wondering if there is a way in ZSH to autocomplete commands after an alias ... I have a command I'm running before my other commands: "aws-okta -- kubectl" ... I'd like zsh to autocomplete the "kubectl" part
[04:00] <solsTiCe> hi. Is there something going on with wl driver ? because I don't have any wifi or bluetooth now. Is my BCM43142 card dead ?
[04:31] <noregret> i'm having a bottleneck in ftp file transfers between two 1gbit hosts. iperf3 confirm ~1gbit speed, but ftp is transferring around 200mbit, how can I troubleshoot this? transfer occurs between a windows host (winscp) to ubuntu server 18.04 (vsftpd), any ideas? is it a vsftpd issue?
[05:11] <mattfly> hi
[05:11] <mattfly> can i move the mouse with a key combination + numpad (like holding shift) ?
[05:12] <mattfly> instead of making the numpad completly useless
[07:16] <ZaZaGX> i just got a raspberry pi 3, and got the ubuntu 18.04.2 arm64 server edition. i can't connect to the wifi, and i dont have an ethernet port cord with me. is it possible to install the necessary drivers or update/dist-upgrade with a usb flash drive and my laptop?
[07:18] <ikonia> ZaZaGX: what makes you think things are missing ?
[07:18] <ZaZaGX> i can't connect to the wifi
[07:18] <ikonia> ok - why do you think something is missing though ?
[07:19] <ikonia> is the wifi device "seen" in the hardware list, can you interact with the device ?
[07:19] <ZaZaGX> yeah, like the wifi drivers or something... can't conncet via wifi
[07:20] <ikonia> can you interact / configure the wifi device though ?
[07:21] <ZaZaGX> yeah, i typed inconfig wlan0
[07:21] <ZaZaGX> ifconfig wlan0
[07:22] <ikonia> so it's great that you can see the device, so it's unlikley you'll need software
[07:22] <ikonia> how are you trying to configure the wifi ?
[07:23] <ZaZaGX> well, i can see the 0wlan
[07:23] <ZaZaGX> sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid name key password and press Enter
[07:23] <ZaZaGX> didn't work
[07:24] <ZaZaGX> it says i would need sudo apt install wireless-tools
[07:26] <ikonia> really ?
[07:26] <ZaZaGX> do you have a raspberry pi 3?
[07:26] <ikonia> I do
[07:28] <ZaZaGX> are you using ubuntu iso or raspbian iso?
[07:28] <ikonia> sadly not at this moment
[07:29] <ikonia> I'm using a custom build as it's testing something for me
[07:30] <ZaZaGX> oh nice
[07:30] <ZaZaGX> how do you connect online?
[07:30] <ikonia> standard wireless tooling
[07:30] <ikonia> but it's using a cable at the moment
[07:31] <ZaZaGX> ah
[07:32] <EriC^> ZaZaGX: does the wifi hardware appear in "sudo lshw -c network" ?
[07:34] <ZaZaGX> yes
[07:37] <EriC^> ZaZaGX: does "iwlist scan" give results?
[07:38] <ZaZaGX> it says iwlist command not found
[07:39] <ZaZaGX> but it can be installed with sudo apt install wireless-tools
[07:39] <ZaZaGX> can't do that if i have no internet
[07:40] <EriC^> ZaZaGX: try nmcli dev wifi list
[07:41] <ZaZaGX> nmcli not found, can be installed with sudo apt install network-manager
[07:42] <EriC^> hmm
[07:46] <ZaZaGX> i dd the command image unto the micro sd card, and insert the card onto the raspberry pi, and it loads. did i miss a step
[07:46] <ZaZaGX> ?
[07:47] <ZaZaGX> shoot
[07:48] <EriC^^> ZaZaGX: is wpasupplicant installed? dpkg -l | grep wpasuppliacnt
[07:48] <EriC^^> *grep wpasupplicant
[07:56] <ZaZaGX> sorry, you missed my message
[07:56] <ZaZaGX> i did sudo dd the command image onto the micro sd card, and insert it into the raspberry pi, and it loads, did i miss a step to install it?
[07:58] <ZaZaGX> hmmm, i think i have it
[08:00] <yeoldebruh> ah, darn
[08:00] <ZaZaGX> it says : ii wpassupplicant   2:2.6-15ubuntu2.1  arm64 client support for WPA and WPA2 (IEEE 802.11i)
[08:00] <yeoldebruh> hit the bug where ubuntu installer will install to the first efi partition regardless of which one you pick
[08:00] <yeoldebruh> so it installed to windows' efi partition
[08:00] <yeoldebruh> hope that gets fixed soon
[08:01] <yeoldebruh> now i have to download a windows iso and burn that to a flash drive
[08:01] <yeoldebruh> please fix it
[08:02] <ZaZaGX> yeoldebruh, ya, you are suppose to install windows first, than ubuntu
[08:02] <ZaZaGX> i heard that is easier
[08:02] <EriC^^> yeoldebruh: nobody's a dev here, you have to report a bug
[08:02] <EriC^^> !bug
[08:02] <yeoldebruh> it's been reported with high severity already :/
[08:02] <EriC^^> you'd want to file it against "ubiquity" the installer
[08:02] <yeoldebruh> i searched it
[08:03] <yeoldebruh> ZaZaGX: not my computer
[08:04] <yeoldebruh> i was specifically installing ubuntu on a usb stick to not mess with windows and break things
[08:04] <yeoldebruh> now that caused windows to break :/
[08:04] <ZaZaGX> shoot
[08:04] <yeoldebruh> thankfully you can legally download windows 8.1 isos from microsoft
[08:04] <yeoldebruh> so i can just boot that into recovery mode and get it to rebuild bcd
[08:06] <yeoldebruh> i guess i'll type this to the bug report too, but you should be given the option to mount a certain drive to /boot/efi during the partitioning step of ubiquity and then it should mount that when installing grub
[08:06] <yeoldebruh> instead of whatever it finds first
[08:06] <yeoldebruh> it will always find windows' one first as long as windows is on /dev/sda
[08:07] <yeoldebruh> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1396379 also tells you how to boot your grub manually if it does that
[08:16] <ZaZaGX> eric^^, you still there?
[08:57] <lng> Hi! How may I downgrade PHP7.3.7 to 7.3.6?
[08:58] <EriC^^> lng: which ubuntu version
[08:58] <lng> Is there a way of setting minor version for Apt?\
[08:58] <lng> EriC^^: Disco
[08:59] <lng> Actually, I need it on Debian as well
[08:59] <EriC^^> lng: you'd need to uninstall php i think, then use apt-get install php=<version here> if it's available
[08:59] <lng> no, it's not
[08:59] <EriC^^> ah, that complicates stuff
[08:59] <lng> it's not available like thwt
[08:59] <lng> Switching to Debian
[09:00] <ikonia> EriC^^: couldn't you put a policy against php with apt-cache policy ?
[09:00] <ikonia> (thinking out loud)
[09:01] <EriC^^> ikonia: yeah, come to think of it, he should pin or similar so it doesnt get upgraded later automatically
[09:02] <ikonia> EriC^^: that way dependencies won't force an update (but it will stop certain ujpdates from happening too, so a double edged sword)
[09:02] <EriC^^> yeah
[09:03] <EriC^^> it's quickly going to a custom maintaining/know what im doing territory
[09:03] <ikonia> fine for a very short term to allow an upstream fix to filter down for example, but when you consider php/libraries/webserver all linked, you'd want it to be current
[09:08] <ZaZaGX> hello
[09:29] <bkhl> Anyone know any good trick on how to simulate a frozen file system (like an unaccessible NFS share) for a test setup?
[10:13] <tomreyn> bkhl: do it in a VM, cut the (virtual) network connection. but this is more of a topic for #ubuntu-discuss or ##linux (this channel is just about ubuntu support)
[10:25] <tomreyn> majnoon: for device nodes: find /dev/snd/ -type c      # for alsa sound cards: cat /proc/asound/cards
[10:25] <ikonia> ls -al
[10:25] <ikonia> oops
[10:45] <netcrash> Hello, is it possible to define apparmor settings by a remote database or some remote server? (like a gpo in AD)?
[10:54] <tomreyn> netcrash: you could probably host the configuration files on a network share , but you'd still need a way to reload apparmor to read them. maybe a deployment solution would be more suitable. something like https://github.com/simondeziel/puppet-apparmor
[10:59] <netcrash> tomreyn: thank you, if anyone has other sugestions I'm here
[11:03] <ice9> support life duration for *.10 releases is only 1 year?
[11:17] <tomreyn> ice9: 9 mnths. this also applies to other non !LTS releases (.04 in uneven years)
[11:18] <tomreyn> * 9 months
[11:18] <ice9> and LTS is 5 or 10 years?
[11:19] <tomreyn> ice9: 5 years free, 5 years !ESM (paid). See also https://ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[11:19] <tomreyn> !LTS
[11:19] <tomreyn> !ESM
[11:22] <ice9> so why only 18.04 is extended for 10 years?
[11:23] <SwedeMike> ice9: https://itsfoss.com/ubuntu-18-04-ten-year-support/
[11:25] <OerHeks> why not?
[11:27] <tomreyn> the 5 years free, 5 years esm offer was introduced for 18.04 and later releases. for 16.04, after ESM is available for 3 years (after 5 years of free support).
[11:53] <vlt> Did hell freeze over? "deb [arch=amd64] https://packages.microsoft.com/ubuntu/16.04/mssql-server-2017 xenial main"
[11:54] <luna_> vlt: yeah it did in 2016
[11:59] <zteam> Hi all, what is the proper way to use sudo with graphical software these days? I know pkexec is highly recommended these days, but that doesn't work well with Gedit for example?
[12:00] <zteam> I used to use gksu before but, that's not available in the repos any longer
[12:01] <ioria> zteam, what 's the problem with gedit ?
[12:03] <zteam> ioria, it doesn't know which display to run on. This is on Xorg, no Wayland or some fancy stuff
[12:05] <ioria> zteam, pkexec env DISPLAY=$DISPLAY XAUTHORITY=$XAUTHORITY  gedit
[12:06] <zteam> ioria, of course, I could cheat and just do sudo -i gedit for example... But, you are not supposed to be doing this :)
[12:06] <ioria> ok
[12:08] <zteam> ioria, That one actually works great :) but the syntax is pretty messy (at least for a distrubution aimed at user-friendly-ness :)
[12:08] <ioria> zteam, raccomended way is : gedit admin:///path/to/file.txt
[12:08] <OerHeks> i have nautilus-admin installed, to open files with priv.
[12:09] <ioria> or that ^
[12:13] <zteam> OerHeks, true, there are ways around it, I'm just a bit suprised that there isn't a clean solution (like gksu) avaialable after all these years... (If you use Wayland do it like this... If you use Xorg do it like this... if you wanto to use application like synaptic do in a different way
[12:14] <OerHeks> it is in the releasenotes, not to edit files as root as you used to, anymore.
[12:14] <OerHeks> design choice, i think it has a security reason
[12:16] <zteam> I have been using Ubuntu for around 10 years now, and even I wasn't sure about the right way to launch different applications with sudo (not saying I'm an expert, just saying)
[12:17] <zteam> OerHeks, have to admitt I haven't readed the release notes too good perhaps :D
[12:19] <zteam> It just feels like the newer versions of Ubuntu I install the more workarounds and tweaks I need to apply to get my system working again :-/
[12:21] <zteam> Well on the bright side I really enjoy Gnome-shell apart from GDM not starting properly all the times :)
[12:23] <black_13> how do i find out what version of ubuntu i can install gcc 4.4.7 on
[12:26] <OerHeks> black_13,  none > https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gcc
[12:26] <OerHeks> even ancient xenial is at 4.5.3
[12:27] <tomreyn> xenial is actually 5.3.1 by default, but also offers 4.7.3 via gcc-4.7
[12:27] <zteam> black_13, well... I haven't tried it myself, but there is a package called adapt in the repos, it's supposed to let you run packages for any older version of Ubuntu, using lxC
[12:28] <tomreyn> 4.7.4 actually
[12:28] <testubuntu> hey
[12:28] <black_13> I am working on a legacy system that has 4.4.7 it can not be changed
[12:28] <testubuntu> i got a tower from a guy
[12:28] <OerHeks> black_13, interesting, so it is not a supported version of ubuntu?
[12:28] <jost> Hi! On SSH login, I get messages like this: 61 packages can be updated.
[12:28] <jost> 0 updates are security updates.
[12:28] <jost>  - How can I get this message in a script?
[12:29] <testubuntu> it currently has ubuntu 18 installed. How do i format everything completely and reinstall ubuntu 18.04?
[12:29] <jost> I want to send it in an email regularly
[12:29] <zteam> black_13, you mean you can't upgrade ubuntu or you mean you only need that version of the compiler?
[12:29] <black_13> the compiler
[12:29] <OerHeks> testubuntu, boot the iso, and choose 'use whole disk'
[12:30] <testubuntu> how do i make sure there are not rootkits or anything?
[12:30] <tomreyn> testubuntu: do you need to ensure the data on there is not (potentially) easily restorable (secure deletion) or do you just need to start from a clean slate?
[12:30] <black_13> i picked ubuntu because it is easier to use
[12:30] <testubuntu> no*
[12:30] <OerHeks> testubuntu, remove all partitions in a live session, and rewrite the MBR/GPT
[12:30] <OerHeks> easy peasy
[12:31] <testubuntu> i don't know how to do that
[12:31] <OerHeks> start live session > start disks > and the menu is self explaining
[12:31] <zteam> black_13, then adapt seems to be what you are looking for, it will probably eat a bit more disk space but it's a clean way to run older versions of software
[12:31] <black_13> oh
[12:32] <black_13> how does that work
[12:32] <black_13> and disk space i have
[12:33] <zteam> black_13, from the repo: "Description: adapt package from one version of Ubuntu to another
[12:33] <zteam>  This package provides a simple, clean method to install and use
[12:33] <zteam>  packages, services, and binaries from one version of Ubuntu onto
[12:33] <zteam>  another, without requiring PPAs.
[12:33] <zteam>  Instead, it uses LXD and Ubuntu system containers.
[12:33] <zteam> "
[12:33] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:33] <EoflaOEViceCity> hello blueskaj
[12:33] <testubuntu> OerHeks start what menu?
[12:33] <black_13> but can you go back something as old as gcc 4.4.7
[12:34] <testubuntu> you mean after inserting the usb with the .iso file?
[12:34] <testubuntu> booting from usb
[12:34] <BluesKaj> hi EoflaOEViceCity
[12:34] <tomreyn> black_13: this is not supported on this channel. we only support ubuntu releases which are not end of life and the packages they provide.
[12:35] <zteam> black_13, I haven't tried it myself, all I can tell you is what's inside that description, if you are unsure, try adapt on another computer before you upgrade.
[12:35] <ioria> it's a container
[12:35] <black_13> tomreyn and?
[12:35] <jost> Ok, found my answer: https://askubuntu.com/questions/269606/apt-get-count-the-number-of-updates-available
[12:36] <tomreyn> black_13: and so we can't help you installing gcc-4.4.7 here
[12:36] <black_13> or you can't
[12:36] <zteam> ioria, exactly, thats why it propably is going to eat alot of disk space,
[12:37] <tomreyn> zteam: about your questions: there's cron-apt, which sends mail, but it doesn't do so in the very format you get to see when you login
[12:38] <derjohn_was_occu> apw: Any chances for a kernel PPA build in a foreseeable time?
[12:38] <zteam> tomreyn, thanks but you are confusing me with someone else, I have loads questions, bot none about that :D
[12:38] <testubuntu> OerHeks?
[12:38] <tomreyn> zteam: right, sorry
[12:39] <tomreyn> jost: there's cron-apt, which sends mail, but it doesn't do so in the very format you get to see when you login
[12:39] <jost> tomreyn: The mail should contain a lot more things, like RAID status and so on, so that is not an option unfortunately
[12:39] <zteam> black_13, just test the tool, that's all we can say, if you don't have a machine to do it on, backup your harddrive or use Vmware or Virtualbox
[12:42] <zteam> ioria,  OerHeks, Sorry for being such a Whiner, you were actaully really helpful :)
[12:42] <ioria> no problem
[12:42] <zteam> tomreyn, no problem man :)
[12:42] <tomreyn> jost: the messages shown upon login are generated by landscape-client(-common), i think
[12:44] <jost> tomreyn: yes, something like that - I want only the information about updates, and that can be generated using `/usr/lib/update-notifier/apt-check --human-readable`. Or without --human-readable for easier scripting
[12:44] <tomreyn> jost: so script it then. ;)
[12:44] <zteam> ioria, I have been figting with gdm for about 6 months now,most of the time, it starts completly as expected, sometimes (about once i a week, I have to start it manually
[12:45] <zteam> :D
[12:45] <tomreyn> jost: you're just managing a smaller number of servers then?
[12:46] <jost> tomreyn: Yes, only one - no need for an actual monitoring system
[12:46] <tomreyn> ah ok
[12:47] <ioria> zteam, you can increase the debug level in /etc/gdm3/custom.conf
[12:48] <tomreyn> derjohn_was_occu: i think there was some breakage, it's being worked on, and there'll be new builds soon, probably today or tomorrow.
[12:49] <testubuntu> so live session means you select "try ubuntu" after booting from the installation usb right?
[12:49] <zteam> ioria, thanks, but last time I checked here, I had loads of dubious messages, in the syslog :)
[12:50] <testubuntu> then how do you remove all partitions and rewrite the GPT/MBR ?
[12:50] <ioria> zteam, use journalctl
[12:50] <ioria> testubuntu, gparted
[12:51] <zteam> ioria, will Google that, thank you :D
[12:52] <testubuntu> OerHeks, what did you mean start disks?
[12:52] <tomreyn> testubuntu: a standard installation ("remove all data and install ubuntu") will overwrite the partition table anyways. so you can just do that.
[12:52] <testubuntu> tomreyn does that rewrite the GPT?
[12:52] <testubuntu> or MBR
[12:53] <tomreyn> testubuntu: yes, GPT or MBR is the partition table.
[12:53] <zteam> testubuntu, do you want to get rid of Ubuntu in favor of Windows? or do you want to reinstall Ubuntu?
[12:53] <testubuntu> MBR is the master boot record
[12:53] <testubuntu> i want to format and get rid of everything
[12:53] <testubuntu> then install ubuntu
[12:54] <tomreyn> testubuntu: you're right, this wasn't an accurate answer, but the MBR would also be overwritten
[12:55] <zteam> testubuntu, if you chosse clean install it will erase all content of that Disk
[12:56] <tomreyn> that's also not perfectly accurate, but probably a good enough answer to testubuntu's supposed needs.
[12:56] <tomreyn> i asked this question earlier but testubuntu seems to have missed it (understandable, there were many replies):   do you need to ensure the data on there is not (potentially) easily restorable (secure deletion) or do you just need to start from a clean slate?
[12:59] <testubuntu> tomreyn clean slate
[12:59] <testubuntu> i got this tower from a guy
[12:59] <testubuntu> there is ubuntu 18 already installed on it and his files are there
[12:59] <testubuntu> i don't want to restore
[13:00] <tomreyn> testubuntu: so the answer remains the same: just do a complete new installation
[13:00] <testubuntu> also it was suggested to delete the MBR to remove rootkits
[13:01] <dajju> hello i am trying to netinstall a debian system on my spare machine using my main machine which is UBUNTU. i followed this guide https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s05.en.html
[13:01] <tomreyn> testubuntu: if you select the installer option to remove ubuntu and all data and install then the boot loader will be replaced.
[13:01] <zteam> testubuntu, MBR is deleted automatically by Ubuntu if you choose a clean installation (as is all other cotent on that disk) :-)
[13:02] <dajju> yet i am not able to install
[13:02] <testubuntu> thanks
[13:02] <tomreyn> dajju: we only support ubuntu installations here. unless you need help with writing the iso file to an installer storage please aks in #debian or ##linux
[13:03] <dajju> ok
[13:05] <tomreyn> dajju: oh apparently you mean pxe boot, not debian netinstall (which is, first of all, an installer iso). if you are looking on setting up a pxe or tftpd server on ubuntu then #ubuntu is the right place.
[13:06] <dajju> yes pxeboot
[13:07] <dajju> i have accordingly install tftpd-hpa package for tftp server
[13:08] <zteam> BBL :)
[13:10] <tomreyn> dajju: as the debian manual says (this should also apply to hosting these services on ubuntu) you'll need either a dhcp or bootp server, and a tftp server.
[13:11] <Jonopoly> omg
[13:11] <Jonopoly> So i had finally given up with ubuntu since it over heats thought i'd try last straw
[13:11] <dajju> it seems to run as it is required i.e. i can downlaod files from tftp server (as tested on different device). but when i boot my spare system it show an error that could not get boot file name. I have installed isc-dhcp-server for dhcp server and config according to manual
[13:12] <Jonopoly> and contact asus... their response was "We cannot advice for unsupported operating system, sorry"
[13:12] <Jonopoly> ...great!
[13:14] <tomreyn> dajju: i don't think you said which ubuntu version you're running, but an ubuntu server 18.04 LTS manual for configuring a dhcp server is available here: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/dhcp.html
[13:15] <tomreyn> Jonopoly: that's a pity, but a pretty standard response. please also keep in mind this channel is just for ubuntu support, you can discuss things in #ubuntu-discuss, though. if you have more questions about configuring ubuntu on your system, ask away.
[13:15] <Jonopoly> Okay thanks tomreyn
[13:16] <Jonopoly> I don't think i can use it for now sadly
[13:16] <dajju> my ubuntu version is 19.04
[13:16] <tomreyn> dajju: then it's https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/serverguide/dhcp.html
[13:16] <strk> the list of sound devices is empty, in pacontrol, what could have happened ?
[13:16] <strk> I suspect this has to do with using bluetooth but disabling bluetooth did not help
[13:17] <dajju> https://privatebin.net/?eb4da2cb5d09a788#2TUpDXskz2PqQSCYzTtF5wSBoqzbF8146KAkhew4SvTz my /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf file
[13:17] <tomreyn> !audio | strk
[13:18] <strk> there is no "Hardware" panel in the "Volume applet"
[13:18] <tomreyn> Jonopoly: i don't remember whether i tired to help you, yet, but feel free to post a log of booting ubuntu (journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999) and to sum up the issues you experience.
[13:19] <Jonopoly> i don't have laptop with me atm, pretending to work at work
[13:19] <tomreyn> strk: which ubuntu version are you on?
[13:19] <Jonopoly> tomreyn: i'll have to reinstall it again to try any safe distro you reccommend trying?
[13:19] <strk> Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS
[13:19] <tomreyn> dajju: test whether dhcp works, too.
[13:20] <strk> running mate desktop
[13:20] <strk> pavucontrol says it fails to connect to pulseaudio, so maybe that's the problem ?
[13:21] <strk> running `pulseaudio` errored with E: [pulseaudio] backend-ofono.c: Failed to register as a handsfree audio agent with ofono: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.ofono was not provided by any .service files
[13:21] <tomreyn> strk: i think this very message is normal, i also have it and sound and pavucontrol work fine.
[13:22] <tomreyn> on 18.04 standard ubuntu (gnome desktop)
[13:22] <strk> it happened yesterday as well, and was fixed by a reboot
[13:22] <strk> I think the only thing I started doing recently was using bluetooth network
[13:22] <strk> maybe something breaks when starting that
[13:22] <strk> I'd like to avoid a reboot though, but `rmmod snd*` seems to be a long way to go
[13:23] <tomreyn> strk: if so, you will be able to reproduce it easily, right?
[13:23] <strk> is there a command to "reset" the audio modules all at once ?
[13:23] <tomreyn> oh you dont want to reboot, then it'll be more difficult to reproduce.
[13:23] <strk> it could be, yes (reproduce) but it'd take a long time and yes, I'd like not to reboot
[13:24] <strk> if there's a way to "reset sound devices" I could try to reproduce with that
[13:24] <strk> ie: (1) disable bluetooth (2) reset (3) check (4) enable bluetooth (5) see if its broken again
[13:24] <tomreyn> see the wiki, it probably discusses it if such exists.
[13:25] <dajju> https://privatebin.net/?bc42dbb05672b59a#5DYcyTgaQCRcqGdKjKP2jv2mRoYVZwgDrmVKKMTwpGpB nmap output
[13:31] <tomreyn> dajju: where did you run nmap on? the ubuntu system you configured the server on, or a potential dhcp client?
[13:32] <dajju> the ubuntu system
[13:32] <dajju> tomreyn: the ubuntu system
[13:32] <tomreyn> dajju: you seem to have just copied and pasted the section which, in the debian manual, starts with:  # The next paragraph needs to be modified to fit your case
[13:32] <tomreyn> does this configuration actually apply to your network?
[13:34] <dajju> tomreyn: it is pretty much one ubuntu system and the other spare system so i can config network to my requirement afaik
[13:35] <tomreyn> Jonopoly: i recommend ubuntu LTS releases, so ubuntu 18.04, using UEFI booting where possible, ideally with secure boot disabled (to reduce complexity, this can be enabled later).
[13:35] <tomreyn> 18.04.2 specifically
[13:35] <Jonopoly> Okay, i'll go with that, what's UEFI booting?
[13:36] <BluesKaj> !uefi
[13:36] <tomreyn> dajju: but will the system receiving this network configuration be able to reach the tftp server from the ip address you are assigning to it?
[13:37] <dajju> it is basically my ubuntu system connected to the spare system via ethernet
[13:37] <Jonopoly> tomreyn: does it matter if i install it onto my external hdd..
[13:38] <Jonopoly> as i have 1ssd (250gb) 1hdd (1tb)
[13:38] <Jonopoly> Windows is on ssd, install (dual boot) linux on hdd
[13:38] <strk> how do I start pulseaudio ?
[13:38] <tomreyn> dajju: if you look at the nmap output, a system contacting your dhcp server would be given an ip address of <IP_ADDRESS>, become part of the <IP_ADDRESS>-255 network (based on the <IP_ADDRESS> subnet mask), and be told to use <IP_ADDRESS> as a default gateway.
[13:39] <strk> ok, pulseaudio --start # fixed it
[13:40] <dajju> tomreyn: can it create a problem?
[13:40] <tomreyn> Jonopoly: if you want to dual boot, be sure to install ubuntu in the same installation mode as the other OS was installed in. so either (legacy) BIOS / CSM mode or UEFI mode.
[13:41] <tomreyn> dajju: i do not understand this question, can you rephrase it, please?
[13:41] <tomreyn> strk: so you should try to understand why it failed next, i guess.
[13:46] <tomreyn> Jonopoly: other than that you can install ubuntu to your external disk fine. keep in mind though, that if you'll be UEFI booting, the UEFI boot loader will need to be installed on the first (U)EFI system partition the firmware gets to see. which is probably where your other OS is currently installed on. again, this only applies if the other OS was installed / boots in UEFI mode.
[13:47] <tomreyn> dajju: what's the LAN IPv4 address(es) of your tftp and dhcp servers?
[13:49] <dajju> tomreyn: my ubuntu system is my dhcp server as well as tftp server ie <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:50] <tomreyn> dajju: okay if it really has this address assigned to its NIC then i'd indeed expect the configuration you have to work
[13:50] <tomreyn> just the lease times are extremely large
[13:53] <tomreyn> also "authoritative" may be wrong in the dhcp server context - something to check on the man page in case you haven't done so yet
[13:56] <strk> tomreyn: right, do you know where does pulseaudio writes his logs ?
[13:58] <strk> ok this is most likely it (syslog):
[13:58] <strk> Jul 17 15:07:37 liz gnome-panel.desktop[3580]: AL lib: (EE) ALCpulsePlayback_contextStateCallback: Received context failure!
[13:58] <strk> Jul 17 15:07:37 liz bluetoothd[1170]: Endpoint unregistered: sender=:1.171 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSource
[13:58] <strk> Jul 17 15:07:37 liz kernel: [24612.201074] show_signal_msg: 4 callbacks suppressed
[13:58] <strk> Jul 17 15:07:37 liz kernel: [24612.201080] pulseaudio[3365]: segfault at 60 ip 00007f19a5b7bd3c sp 00007ffe2f4dd7b0 error 4 in module-loopback.so[7f19a5b76000+a000]
[13:58] <strk> Jul 17 15:07:37 liz kernel: [24612.201102] Code: 0d c9 2d 00 00 50 68 93 00 00 00 ba 93 00 00 00 56 31 ff 31 c0 e8 b4 c8 ff ff 48 83 c4 20 e8 ab c5 ff ff 0f 1f 00 48 8b 43 18 <48> 8b 78 60 e8 5b c8 ff ff 48 39 83 80 00 00 00 48 89 c5 73 92 66
[14:00] <BluesKaj> strk, please don't flood the chat with more than 3 lines of pasted text
[14:01] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[14:08] <erichlf_> I am attempting to use autofs and gdfuse together, but I keep getting mesg: ttyname failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[14:08] <tuxinator> hi
[14:09] <tuxinator> really a dummy question for a pro, is a Ubuntu live usb stick readonly or writable by default?
[14:09] <erichlf_> You can write to it but it will not be persistent.
[14:09] <pragmaticenigma> erichlf_: That isn't quite correct
[14:10] <erichlf_> pragmaticenigma, you can give the more complicated answer.
[14:11] <pragmaticenigma> tuxinator: Making a USB Live instance of Ubuntu does not make the drive itself read-only. However, unless you enable persistence, if you attempt to install packages they will not available the next time you run the Boot drive.
[14:12] <erichlf_> And to enable persistence you need extra space passed the normal required space.
[14:13] <erichlf_> Anyone know what the heck "mesg: ttyname failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device" means?
[14:15] <strk> anyway, that paste seems to confirm the bluetooth/pulseaudio connection
[14:20] <tuxinator> erchlf_ i would like to create some liveboot kiso system, so don't be persistent, reload everything on reboot
[14:23] <pragmaticenigma> tuxinator: Following the instructions for creating a USB drive will achieve your goal
[14:23] <pragmaticenigma> !usb
[14:23] <tuxinator> erichlf_ misstyped your name :D
[14:23] <tuxinator> pragmaticenigma: but the users will be able to save data on to that drive, right?
[14:24] <pragmaticenigma> tuxinator: Only if you create the drive with persistence
[14:25] <pragmaticenigma> tuxinator: what I was saying is the drive itself isn't readonly, the live instance doesn't allow writing to the USB drive unless persistence is enabled.
[14:26] <tuxinator> pragmaticenigma: ok i thought first it works like that, so you confirmed. thank you very much
[14:26] <lordcirth> tuxinator, anyone with root can write to anything on the computer. But they'd need to do so on purpose.
[14:26] <tuxinator> lordcirth: of course, as "root" is the master of the universe :D
[14:27] <tuxinator> lordcirth: root is even able to write in to black holes, called /dev/null :D
[14:30] <CoolerZ> so i installed ubuntu recently
[14:30] <CoolerZ> on a new machine, now how do i make sure everything is up to date?
[14:30] <lordcirth> CoolerZ, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[14:31] <tomreyn> if it's a supported release, just use     sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade     or configure it / trigger it on the GUI.
[14:34] <CoolerZ> dist-upgrade ?
[14:35] <pragmaticenigma> CoolerZ: Look at "man apt" to see what the different options do.
[14:35] <tomreyn> CoolerZ:     sudo apt-get dist-uoprade     also works, if that was your question.
[14:35] <tomreyn> * dist-upgrade
[14:36] <tomreyn> but refresh the package list first
[14:36] <lordcirth> full-upgrade is an alias for dist-upgrade
[14:36] <CoolerZ> how is dist-upgrade different?
[14:37] <tomreyn> lordcirth: where do you see this?
[14:37] <CoolerZ> also if i lock the screen
[14:37] <CoolerZ> by clicking top right and clicking the lock icon, does that stop processes?
[14:38] <CoolerZ> or only suspend does that?
[14:38] <tomreyn> CoolerZ: my understanding is also that   "sudo apt full-upgrade" does effectively the same thing as "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[14:38] <hggdh> CoolerZ: nothing stops on lock
[14:38] <netcrash> I wish proprietary software would have community channels like open source software has
[14:38] <lordcirth> tomreyn, well, apt-get had dist-upgrade, and apt's man page doesn't include dist-upgrade, only full-upgrade, but still accepts dist-upgrade and they appear to do the same thing.
[14:38] <hggdh> tomreyn: correct
[14:39] <CoolerZ> tomreyn, and full-upgrade upgrades packages even if they are not compatible?
[14:39] <tomreyn> lordcirth: yes, but the documentation is very lacking there, there's no statement anywhere that one is an alias of the other, from what i can tell, or that apt supports both.
[14:39] <CoolerZ> how is it different from sudo apt-get upgrade
[14:40] <tomreyn> (nor that apt-get supports both)
[14:40] <hggdh> CoolerZ: apt upgrade will not remove packages (even if necessary to perform the upgrade); (dist|full)-upgrade will
[14:41] <hggdh> CoolerZ: so, on apt upgrade, if it finds it would need to remove a package due to requirements on a new/updated one, then apt upgrade will NOT install this new/upgrade package
[14:43] <hggdh> tomreyn: yeah, I think that at the beginning apt would not support dist-upgrade, and someone complained (breaks compatibility with apt-get), so it was added (but not documented). I dimly remember 'apt dist-upgrade' failing years ago
[14:46] <tomreyn> hggdh: it could certainly benefit from more documentation. i think   apt-(get) install package+ otherpackage- ^tasḱ    is also lacking documentation.
[14:47] <tomreyn> oh i'm wrong there, sorry. -/+ are documented
[14:51] <hggdh> tomreyn: we actually could submit a patch to apt, updating the docs (as a bug in Debian, it such bug does not exist yet)
[14:52] <CoolerZ> weird
[14:53] <CoolerZ> after running sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade my firefox version is still 67.0.4
[14:53] <CoolerZ> latest is 68.0
[14:55] <hggdh> CoolerZ: do you have the -security repository enabled?
[14:56] <tomreyn> how do you tell which firefox version you have?
[14:57] <TabMasher> tomreyn: Help>About
[14:59] <tomreyn> CoolerZ: how do you tell which firefox version you have?
[14:59] <tomreyn> TabMasher: thanks, i meant to ask CoolerZ but forgot to point this out.
[15:02] <TabMasher> CoolerZ: upgrades don't necessarily update all software. Or the latest isn't stable enough.  What is new in v68 that you need?
[15:02] <tomreyn> security patches
[15:03] <tomreyn> https://usn.ubuntu.com/4054-1/
[15:05] <TabMasher> tomreyn: Fair enough.  But I didn't think ubuntu had support for Firefox.
[15:06] <TabMasher> You kinda have to go get it on your own to update.
[15:06] <ryuo> not really... firefox is treated differently and is eventually updated to latest.
[15:06] <ryuo> it may be delayed, but it'll happen.
[15:06] <tomreyn> TabMasher: that's incorrect, ubuntu supports firefox. in contrary to most packages, it will provide the latest upstream releases and not backport security fixes.
[15:07] <TabMasher> ryuo: Yep.
[15:10] <TabMasher> tomreyn: I don't usually use Firefox, but I figured that was all Mozilla's domain.  But you're right.
[15:22] <deadmund> Hello, is there a linux desktop app equivalent to this: https://soulver.app    ?  It's a notepad + calculator app.  Thanks in advance!
[15:24] <pragmaticenigma> deadmund: There is not. Please remember to keep questions to Support topics. Software recommendations should be asked in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:30] <CoolerZ> tomreyn, help about
[15:31] <CoolerZ> 67.0.4 (64-bit)
[15:31] <CoolerZ> hggdh, what security thing?
[15:33] <CoolerZ> deadmund, looks like it would work on electron https://electronjs.org/
[15:34] <CoolerZ> should be easy to port
[15:34] <pragmaticenigma> CoolerZ: Please focus on your present issue. It's hard to for others to know who's helping who and who's trying to receive help
[15:35] <pragmaticenigma> CoolerZ: You need to make sure you software settings has the security software repository enabled.
[15:35] <CoolerZ> pragmaticenigma, oh sorry
[15:35] <CoolerZ> pragmaticenigma, where is that setting?
[15:36] <pragmaticenigma> Look for the application "Software & Updates"
[15:37] <CoolerZ> important security updates is enabled under tab updates
[15:37] <pragmaticenigma> CoolerZ: And you are running Ubuntu 18.04?
[15:39] <pragmaticenigma> CoolerZ: You could try "sudo apt autoclean && sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade" beyond that, I'm not sure why you are not seeing the update yet. Are all the check boxes check on taht screen?
[15:48] <CoolerZ> pragmaticenigma, yes 18.04
[15:49] <CoolerZ> pragmaticenigma, yes all 3 checkboxes, important security, recommended and unsupported
[15:50] <CoolerZ> pragmaticenigma, https://bpaste.net/raw/eTEO
[15:52] <CoolerZ> still there?
[15:53] <pragmaticenigma> Why did you install the Oracle Java PPA? Is there something the OpenJDK that comes preinstalled with Ubuntu doesn't provide you?
[16:01] <CoolerZ> pragmaticenigma, there was some problem with updating i think
[16:02] <CoolerZ> i don't remember what the problem was
[16:02] <Antoine> Hello, I installed Ubuntu 19.04 on my laptop. I believe I didn't check the install additional non free drivers and programs stuff. I can't play videos on facebook. Firefox console says that there might be missing codecs for "video/mp4; codecs="avc1.42C01E", audio/mp4; codecs="mp4a.40.5", video/mp4; codecs="avc1.42E01E mp4a.40.2", video/mp4; codecs="avc1.4D401E mp4a.40.2", video/mp4; codecs="avc1.4D401F mp4a.40.2", video/mp4; codecs="avc1.640032
[16:02] <Antoine> mp4a.40.2", video/mp4; codecs="avc1.640033 mp4a.40.2"<PHONE_NUMBER>05426"
[16:02] <Antoine> What would be the package I need to install? :)
[16:02] <CoolerZ> pragmaticenigma, also this https://bpaste.net/raw/P8hB
[16:03] <Antoine> ubuntu-restricted-extras ?
[16:03] <pragmaticenigma> CoolerZ: In both pastes... refer to PPAs which are not supported here. Remove them and your machine will be able to properly update
[16:03] <CoolerZ> pragmaticenigma, how
[16:03] <pragmaticenigma> Antoine: That should install the missing codecs
[16:04] <Antoine> pragmaticenigma: Thanks :)
[16:06] <Antoine> pragmaticenigma: Would you know why I can play videos on facebook with my machine (xubuntu, thinkpad X200) while my girlfriend can't on her machine (ubuntu 19.04, acer laptop). I do not have "ubuntu-restricted-extras" installed (doesn't show as installed in `apt search ubunturestricted-extra`
[16:06] <pragmaticenigma> CoolerZ: "sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:daniel.pavel/solaar && sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:webupd8team/java"
[16:07] <Antoine> apt search ubuntu-restricted-extra
[16:07] <pragmaticenigma> Antoine: Look for xubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:08] <Antoine> pragmaticenigma: It doesn't show up at all
[16:08] <Antoine> I did `apt search xubuntu-restricted-extras`
[16:09] <pragmaticenigma> Antoine: I'm not certain then... could be that you installed the packages manually or had them provided through another means. *ubuntu-restricted-extras is just meta package that triggers a dependency for the other packages to be added
[16:12] <Antoine> pragmaticenigma: Ok so those nonfree codecs are definitely installed on my machine?
[16:13] <pragmaticenigma> Antoine: I don't know how to verify it, but I would assume if you have had no difficulty in playing back videos that the other machine does have difficulty, then I would assume that your machine has had the needed codecs installed at some point
[16:14] <Antoine> Makes sense :)
[16:23] <Antoine> All right, once more thanks a lot and bbye
[16:51] <wedjats> hi guys
[16:51] <wedjats> hope you are doing well
[16:52] <lotuspsychje> welcome to ubuntu support wedjats
[16:53] <ghavil> Is there a default way to configure the iptables INPUT default action to be DROP on Ubuntu 18.04?
[16:54] <ghavil> I'm seeing some references to '/etc/iptables/rules.v4', but I can't find what would actual load things from that file (i.e. there's no systemd unit for iptables unless I'm crazy)
[17:00] <lordcirth> ghavil, those might be for iptables-persist?
[17:00] <lordcirth> persistent*
[17:00] <ghavil> I thought that but, I don't see that installed, so I wonder if this is doing anything...
[17:01] <pragmaticenigma> possible that the config file came along for the ride with another package?
[17:01] <lordcirth> ghavil, I just use shorewall if I want to edit firewall settings, myself.
[17:01] <ioria> !info netfilter-persistent
[17:02] <lordcirth> "apt-file search /etc/iptables/rules.v4" didn't find anything on my system
[17:03] <ghavil> Fun, okay so I _think_ I can just go with netfilter-persistent to pull this off (is that the same as iptables-persistant?)
[17:03] <ioria> you need both
[17:04] <lordcirth> iptables-persistent depends on netfilter-persistent
[17:05] <ghavil> Ahhh cool, thanks, I'll give this a whirl
[17:10] <sarnold> Nikesh: very curious. Next thing then, why is your vim using libraries that aren't available now? maybe debsums -c  would help to spot if you've got packages that didn't completely install correctly; maybe apt-get install -f  might kick off another round of package installs?
[17:14] <JaredTamana> Hi everyone. I'm looking to implement something into a bash script that allows make to only ever use one line at a time. I want to do this because of terminal mess, and because Jarvis CI only allows up to 6000 lines.
[17:14] <JaredTamana> Can sed accomplish this? How would I go about implementing this? (The rest of the log would output to a file)
[17:16] <pragmaticenigma> !bash > pragmaticenigma
[17:16] <tmlake> Hello guys
[17:16] <lotuspsychje> welcome tmlake
[17:17] <pragmaticenigma> JaredTamana: For bash help, you might want to check out the #bash channel. You might also want to seek out online forum or community specific for the application you are trying to work with as they would be better suited to answer your question.
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> how can we help you today tmlake
[17:20] <tmlake> I'm having a video playback issue with Kodi 17.6 on Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS.
[17:20] <tmlake> Everything was running fine until yesterday when I decided to apply the latest Ubuntu updates. when I try to play a video with Kodi it immediately crashes or plays with a totally black image. I don't remember exactly what were the updates, but I recall being Ubuntu base upgrades and graphics related (VDPAU, radeon, Gstreamer, X.Org, imagemagick, etc..). It was a small size update and not large driver files.
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> tmlake: trace back your dpkg logs, see what has been installed yesterday
[17:22] <tmlake> I'm afraid I'm not able to do it anymore. I've just reinstalled Ubuntu from scratch, the 18.04.2 LTS version available from the website and what I was using without issues.
[17:22] <tmlake>  On the first launch I didn't upgrade anything from the huge list of available packages and just performed an installation of Kodi and its required packages.
[17:22] <tmlake> I still get the same window crash or black image on videos.
[17:22] <Bashing-om> tmlake: ^^ and If you boot an older kernel - is playback there functional ?
[17:22] <tmlake> No, I've tried that
[17:24] <tmlake> I've found one solution: If I install the latest open-source drivers that are not available on bionic repositories through the PPA: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:oibaf/graphics-drivers sudo apt-get update sudo apt upgrade The following packages will be upgraded:  libdrm-amdgpu1 libdrm-common libdrm-intel1 libdrm-nouveau2 libdrm-radeon1  libdrm2 libegl-mesa0 libegl1-mesa libgbm1 libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx libglapi-mesa
[17:24] <tmlake> libglx-mesa0 libllvm8 libwayland-egl1-mesa libxatracker2 mesa-va-drivers mesa-vdpau-drivers mesa-vulkan-drivers
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> tmlake: are other video's playable on vlc, youtube for example?
[17:26] <tmlake> However I'd prefer to use the default drivers available in the repository, that were released specifically optimized for Ubuntu 18 environment and made with hard effort. These oibaf drivers don't look good on my videos.
[17:27] <tmlake> Yes, everything's fine. I have VLC and SMPlayer with no issues.
[17:29] <tmlake> Kodi is important for my Ubuntu HTPC
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> tmlake: you have errors in logs on kodi? perhaps launch from terminal and journalctl -f , pastebin us your errors
[17:31] <tmlake> Right away https://paste.kodi.tv/qicihizoyu
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> tmlake: did you make a new ubuntu iso, or still use your old iso? kernel still says 4.15
[17:33] <tmlake> I download the Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS iso from Ubuntu's download page
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> tmlake: the bionic iso should now give you the hwe kernel 4.18
[17:35] <tmlake> Yes, I've checked it now and it's 4.18.0-25
[17:35] <tmlake> I think this log comes from before I reinstalled Ubuntu. But with this newer kernel Kodi's not working
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> tmlake: ok right
[17:36] <lotuspsychje> tmlake: sudo lshw -C video, shows you driver= loaded?
[17:37] <tmlake> Yes, everything's right
[17:38] <tmlake> I'm using Radeon graphics and Kodi give me these errors:
[17:38] <tmlake> #3  0x00007f47676c60aa in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/radeonsi_dri.so
[17:38] <tmlake> #4  0x00007f47676c5dd7 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/radeonsi_dri.so
[17:38] <tmlake> Repeated several times
[17:38] <tmlake> #3  0x00007f475ce2c5a6 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libLLVM-8.so.1
[17:38] <tmlake> #4  0x00007f475ce2c425 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libLLVM-8.so.1
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> !info kodi bionic
[17:40] <tmlake> I've learn that recently, on this month, Ubuntu added the latest releases of the proprietary Nvidia driver through the regular Ubuntu updates channel. They are now available on the 'Additional Drivers' section.
[17:40] <tmlake> I'm pretty sure that small adjustments made for this upgrade messed with my Kodi playback, sent through that Ubuntu base updates I described.
[17:40] <tmlake>  And it's not only for AMD, another user with nvidia graphics is having this same issue.
[17:41] <tmlake> The oibaf ppa upgraded a package that made Kodi work. I trying to figure out which was
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> tmlake: when was the last time kodi worked?
[17:44] <tmlake> Last sunday, just before I aplied the latest Ubuntu base updates
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> tmlake: allright tnx, maybe you should consider a new !bug
[17:47] <ioria> he did https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kodi/+bug/1836828
[17:48] <tmlake> Yes, but I still got no answer.
[17:50] <ioria> tmlake, would help check your /var/log/apt/history.log
[17:52] <tmlake> It's open, what do you need?
[17:52] <ioria> the output
[17:53] <ioria> tmlake, cat /var/log/apt/history.log | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:55] <tmlake> https://termbin.com/70tn
[17:58] <ioria> no idea; tmlake i suggest test with a livecd
[17:59] <tmlake> Good idea, I'll try it now. I'm chatting with another computer, so I'll keep writing here what happens
[18:00] <ctjctj> We recently upgraded from 14.04LTS and 16.04LTS to 18.04LTS on our servers.  When we did that the resolve library started returning different results.  When we `dig example.com` from a machine that is not example.com we get the actual IP of example.com.  If we slogin to example.com and run `dig example.com` we get <IP_ADDRESS> as the IP address (or eth0:0's IP address).  How do we get the old behavior back?
[18:01] <cas909> @Drone hi i am new here. is there a way i could identify if someone here could help support/advise on SSO sign up/registration questions? Thanks
[18:02] <lordcirth> cas909, please ask your specific question, and we will see
[18:02] <lordcirth> Also, Drone is a bot.
[18:03] <bitbeast> hi everyone
[18:03] <bitbeast> This is my first time using IRC service
[18:04] <bitbeast> How are you all doing?
[18:04] <lordcirth> ctjctj, you can change "<IP_ADDRESS> hostname" to "realip hostname" in /etc/hosts
[18:05] <cas909> @lordcirth guess so thanks. I am unable to sign up, as the password doesn't match. So I have tried resetting the password, and get an email to reset it. The email however, directs me to the sign up page instead. Since the user exists and the password doesn't work. Repeating this creates a loop where I keep requesting the reset email, but unable to
[18:05] <cas909> really reset it.
[18:06] <lordcirth> cas909, this is https://login.ubuntu.com/ ?
[18:06] <cas909> yup, thats the page
[18:06] <lordcirth> cas909, try the help here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ISD
[18:08] <ctjctj> lordcirth, the name of the machine is "server13".  The FQDN we are looking up is 'example.com'.  'example.com' isn't in /etc/hosts.  The problem is that the apache config file for 'example.com' only listens on an explicit IP address (eth0).  So when one of my dev's does a 'wget https://example.com/magic_url' it fails as the webserver isn't listening on <IP_ADDRESS>.
[18:09] <cas909> @lordcirth will email. Thanks! Further, is there a way to see all ubuntu related channels here? Have some queries about using ubuntu as guest as well. Would be great if I could seek some advice too. Thanks again
[18:09] <ctjctj> lordcirth, you might be exactly right.  DNS is a CNAME.   Let me check this out.
[18:11] <lordcirth> cas909, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[18:13] <ctjctj> lordcirth, thank you.   The issue was one of my dev's thinks he's a system admin.  He added an extra record to /etc/hosts that shouldn't have been there.  Thus the CNAME resolved from /etc/hosts per nsswitch.conf files dns
[18:13] <lordcirth> ctjctj, ah, fun
[18:14]  * pragmaticenigma recommends ctjctj takes away devs sudo priv's
[18:14] <sarnold> ctjctj: cute :/
[18:14] <ctjctj> pragmaticenigma, yeah.  It is in progress.  This particular dev is also the "boss"  So a little more difficult.
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> tmlake: did you use ubuntu-bug kodi or manual add in launchpad?
[18:16] <tmlake> A manual add
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> tmlake: try apport-collect BUGid please to add relevant info to your bug
[18:21] <cas909> @lordcirth great! Thanks!
[18:21] <Bob-Obo> There is no sound passing through when Im in my Win7 VirtualBox. How to diagnose? [Dell Latitude E7440, Ubuntu 19.04]
[18:22] <tmlake> All right, doing that lotus
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> tmlake: tnx, seems it worked out
[18:27] <tmlake> Ok, I'll test the livecd now
[18:29] <cas909> hi i am new to ubuntu, currently on 18.04 VM guest, on windows 10 host. while working on shared documents, I am unable to edit from ubuntu, but could do so from windows. Could create a new file, and edit it on the shared folder, but unable to edit after editing from windows host. Is there some settings i could tweak to resolve this?
[18:31] <sarnold> cas909: do you get any error messages?
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> tmlake: another idea, would be finding other kodi users to affect your bug, perhaps in #kodi?
[18:34] <tmlake> Could be, I'll try thx
[18:35] <cas909> @sarnold yes, it says "could not save the file <file path>. Unexpected error. Error renaming temporary file. Text file busy""
[18:36] <TJ-> cas909: you've got the same document open simultaneously in both OSs?
[18:36] <cas909> nope closed it on the host
 I tried on Kodi forum, Team-Kodi asked me to contact Ubuntu support
[18:36] <sarnold> cas909: weeeeird. That error normally only happens when you're working with an executable file that's currently being executed
[18:37] <sarnold> cas909: (it's also pretty hard to trigger; the only times I've seen that error message was when I was *trying* to see that error message)
[18:37] <TJ-> cas909: is it a .txt (text) file and what application are you using on Linux to edit it?
[18:37] <cas909> sarnold, seems so. I am only testing with text files now, since I am only beginning to explore
[18:38] <sarnold> cas909: so .. my best guess is your windows VM system is doing something *strange* and *weird* and above all *wrong* to try to prevent files from being out of sync between the two systems
[18:38] <tmlake> ioria, the livecd gives me the same result. I get a full black image on the movies, but now at least I can see the subtitles
[18:38] <lotuspsychje> tmlake: kodi is on the ubuntu repos, im not sending you away, im trying to widen your options as other 'affected' users can speedup your bug solving
[18:38] <sarnold> cas909: (feel free to forget this immediately, but "text file busy" in this case doesn't mean text text, but *executable*. it's a long story.)
[18:38] <cas909> just opened it directly. the ones i created from ubuntu, i did so with text editor
[18:39] <cas909> @sarnold
[18:39] <tmlake> Everything plays well with SMplayer, though.
[18:40] <ctjctj> sarnold, try `fuser file_name` and see if there is another process accessing the file?  I think that the fcntl() sys call has an option for locking a file, even if it is not an executable.
[18:40] <cas909> @sarnold i may guess to, and have tried to configure the sharing settings on windows. from windows end, it seems to work fine though, could read and write, could see updates from ubuntu vm
[18:40] <cas909> sarnold just not able to edit and save it from ubuntu vm
[18:40] <Mr-Potter> hello
[18:41] <sarnold> ctjctj: mandatory locking requires setting mount flags, and i'm not even sure it's still supported in our kernels
[18:41] <Mr-Potter> if i need support but I cannot find it in here where should I ask?
[18:41] <ctjctj> sarnold, tells you how long I've been programming.  :-(
[18:41] <Mr-Potter> I take it the answer is a social channel e.g. ##chat or ##defocus
[18:41] <sarnold> ctjctj: aye :)
[18:41] <Lantizia_> TJ-, hey sorry I think I missed you the other day
[18:41] <Mr-Potter> most likely the latter considering ##chat are quite strict
[18:41] <Mr-Potter> but anyway
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> Mr-Potter: what exactly are you asking us?
[18:42] <TJ-> cas909: sarnold  was referring to this, it is a known long-standing bug since 2009: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/glib/issues/438
[18:42] <TJ-> Lantizia_: did you get your udev rule working OK?
[18:42] <Lantizia_> TJ-, this is now how I set up CDEmu on any system... https://pastebin.com/raw/ukxbARUs
[18:42] <sarnold> TJ-: beautiful!
[18:42] <Mr-Potter> I'm not asking a specific question. Someone years ago accidentally discovered #defocus (now ##chat) by asking a support query here, not getting an answer in 30 minutes, trying -offtopic, getting told off and then refered to #defocus by "the powers that be"
[18:42] <Lantizia_> TJ-, the 99-sw-cdemu.rules file it writes is based on how the existing udev rules which use UDISKS_IGNORE works
[18:43]  * Mr-Potter knows this is all off topic but anyway
[18:43] <Lantizia_> TJ-, and yeah it works great, with one tiny exception we overlooked :)
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> !alis | Mr-Potter to find a channel
[18:44] <TJ-> Lantizia_: I'd make one change your rule - make ot more specific to the situation so it isn't being run for *all* kernel events, which it is now. See my suggestion, note the subsystem and action matches  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WznCRf6TrG/
[18:44] <TJ-> Lantizia_: what is the exception?
[18:44] <Lantizia_> TJ-, well I've done it how it is done in... /lib/udev/rules.d/80-udisks2.rules
[18:45] <Mr-Potter> !alis
[18:45] <Lantizia_> TJ-, e.g. that hides any partition called 'Recovery' as well as lots of other names which PC's might come with vendor-specific partitions
[18:45] <Lantizia_> TJ-, only this matches on the unique vendor ID which my script changes in CDEmu
[18:46] <Lantizia_> TJ-, the exception :)  Well... In this particular case I'm mounting the Windows version of Colonization (a lovely 90's turn based 4x game)
[18:46] <TJ-> Lantizia_: no, you missed out that file skips the rules at the top if it isn't a block device, with the SUBSYSTEM!="block", GOTO="udisks_probe_end"
[18:47] <TJ-> Lantizia_: indeed it does, to prevent the GUI being inundated with confusing entries, but you can over-ride those rupes too with your own if that is what you want
[18:47] <Lantizia_> but the .toc/.bin which is mounted - well it's multi-track, so Track 1 is data (and is properly ignored due to UDISKS_IGNORE) and doesn't get mounted nor show in the file manager
[18:47] <Lantizia_> but gvfs-cdda kicks in and realises it can see an audio CD and does that silly fake filesystem full of non-existent .WAV files to represent the tracks
[18:47] <Lantizia_> TJ-, ah ok I'll adjust the rule
[18:48] <tmlake> lotuspsychje, there's nobody online on #kodi but I left a message there.
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> tmlake: yeah saw your messages, its worth a try
[18:49] <TJ-> Lantizia_: if you want to see partitions that are being set UDISKS_IGNORE=1 by 80-udisks then just add to your over-ride file the same rule from 80-udisks that sets UDISKS_IGNORE=0 :) As long as your udev rules file is processed after 80-udisks it'll work (and it will since yours is named 99- )
[18:50] <Lantizia_> yeah i know that bit - done stuff with udev before
[18:51] <tmlake> lotuspsychje: Of course, There's also #kodi-linux
[18:53] <Lantizia_> TJ-, i've added the SUBSYSTEM=="block", bit in ... but it's the silly audio cd bit that's bothersome now lol
[18:53] <Lantizia_> i'm guessing whatever does that - gvfs-cdda i guess, doesn't respect udisks_ignore ?
[18:54] <Lantizia_> i could disable gvfs-cdda in general, but it'd be nice to only have it ignore devices with vendor SW-CDEmu (like the udisks ignore rule)
[18:54] <tmlake> Is there a log somewhere of recently official updates sent by the server? Maybe a way to the have the older state back
[18:55] <TJ-> Lantizia_: check all the udev events with "udevadm monitor -k" when the 'audio' CD is connected, you should find some key there you can use to discriminate
[18:56] <Lantizia_> TJ-, ooooh ok will look at that - didn't know there was a monitor
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> tmlake: ubuntu doesnt really support downgrading packages
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> tmlake: its reccomended to keep system up to date, and if bugs occur start testing from there
[18:58] <TJ-> Lantizia_: also, I cannot find any file in the entire archive that matches "gvfs.*cdda" - do you know if it has a different filename or which package it is from?
[18:58] <TJ-> Lantizia_: see "man udevadm" - there are a lot of useful commands and options
[18:58] <ioria> tmlake, can weknow your video card ?  lspci -nnk | grep -EA3 'VGA|3D' | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:58] <Lantizia_> TJ-, /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfsd-cdda
[18:59] <Lantizia_> TJ-, i think it *may* be controlled from /usr/share/gvfs/mounts/cdda.mount
[18:59] <Lantizia_> but i assume you've seen this before when an Audio CD (or in my case, mixed mode CD with Track 2 and up as audio) is inserted?
[19:00] <Lantizia_> basically the file manager shows a filesystem which looks like it has files  "Track 02.wav" "Track 03.wav" but they're actually fake files for non-audio-cd-aware software to play audio tracks as WAV files
[19:00] <TJ-> Lantizia_: right, but that has  "AutoMount=false" so if you've got it auto-mounting its being ignored
[19:01] <Lantizia_> yeah don't know why it says that - the automounting is actually controlled from dconf
[19:01] <Lantizia_> and turning it on/off applies to both data and audio tracks
[19:02] <tmlake> ioria,  https://termbin.com/wmnh
[19:03] <TJ-> Lantizia_: maybe the source-code will give some clues
[19:09] <ioria> tmlake, so the livecd test failed ?
[19:10] <Lantizia_> TJ-, udevadm monitor -k doesn't show much
[19:10] <tmlake> ioria: Yes mate. While others players like SMP played a movie without problems, Kodi had the exact same result. A Crash and/or playing the video with a black screen
[19:11] <Lantizia_> just states there was a change event for sr1
[19:12] <TJ-> Lantizia_: OK, so it's a source-code issue to chase, looking in daemon/mount.c (of the gvfs source) I see at line 555 mountable->automount = g_key_file_get_boolean (keyfile, "Mount", "AutoMount", NULL);
[19:12] <ioria> tmlake, can you try the ppa version ?
[19:13] <TJ-> Lantizia_: and the prior code is opening a file which 'appears' to be the /usr/share/gvfs/mounts/... so either at run-time that path is changed or that file is never read
[19:14] <ioria> tmlake, First remove older versions of Kodi:
[19:14] <Lantizia_> TJ-, i'm looking at dbus-monitor to see if it gives any clues
[19:15] <tmlake> ioria: I've already tried. The 17.6 version from kodi-stable/old doesn't and the newer 18.3 Leia version does.
[19:16] <tmlake> ioria: I really want the 17.6 from Ubuntu repos running. The video playback is different, I didn't like the newer version
[19:17] <ioria> tmlake, so, try the old verson of 18.04 (with kernel 4.15.0-54 not 4.18)
[19:19] <Lantizia_> TJ-, oooh /org/gtk/Private/RemoteVolumeMonitor
[19:20] <Lantizia_> TJ-, but that looks to be from org.gtk.vfs.UDisks2VolumeMonitor
[19:20] <tmlake> ioria, How can I do it?
[19:20] <ioria> tmlake, tmlake, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/bionic/
[19:20] <Lantizia_> so perhaps another udev rule is needed for the audio portion?  how on earth that'd be stated I don't know
[19:22] <tmlake> ioria, it doesn't inform the kernel version, should I download the 18.0.1 or 18.0?
[19:23] <ioria> tmlake, try this ---> ubuntu-18.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[19:26] <tmlake> ioria, all right, can I test it through a Livecd?
[19:26] <ioria> tmlake, sure
[19:29] <Lantizia_> TJ-, you know I think it announces it twice
[19:29] <Lantizia_> TJ-, and that udev rule only kicks in once
[19:44] <zaggynl> Hi, anyone know how to reduce noise on mobo connected mic?
[19:45] <becool> packet_write_wait: Connection to <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Broken pipe
[19:45] <becool> why do i get that when trying to sftp
[19:46] <becool> it happened after i did a chown -R /<sftpusershomedir>
[19:55] <uRock> becool, Check out https://askubuntu.com/questions/127369/how-to-prevent-write-failed-broken-pipe-on-ssh-connection
[19:55] <TJ-> Lantizia_: easy enough to test if the rule is triggered twice: RUN+="/bin/sh -c 'echo 1 >> /tmp/cdemu' " - then check the file, it should have a line with "1" for each invocation
[19:57] <TJ-> Lantizia_: sorry, this would be better: RUN+="/bin/sh -c '/bin/date +%s >> /mtp/cdemu' "
[20:00] <TJ-> Lantizia_: oops, and correct my typo /mtp/ should be /tmp/
[20:02] <FriedBob> I've got a 1u half depth rack mount that has a GLK19264A-7T-1U built in to the case.  I've running Ubuntu 18.04 Server (no X11), and would like to control the LCD and the 3 LEDs on it.
[20:03] <FriedBob> lcdproc doesn't seem to support this model - the display is garbled for any of the screens, and lcd4linux seems to be erroring out due to the lack of X11 libraries.  What would my best option be for this?
[20:03] <sarnold> it might be worth installing the x11 libs to see if that does the trick
[20:04] <Lantizia_> TJ-, yeah it's only triggered once
[20:04] <Lantizia_> TJ-, i guess gvfs cdda just ignores the ignore rule :S
[20:10] <TJ-> Lantizia_: that's all controlled centrally daemon/mount.c functions from maybe_autmount()
[20:11] <TJ-> Lantizia_: so each gvfs backend is called only if mountable->automount == 1
[20:11] <TJ-> Lantizia_: and that is set at gvfs start by reading all those .mount files
[20:11] <Lantizia_> yeah which is turned on in dconf (as it is by default on the distro being installed)
[20:11] <Lantizia_> but obviously it doesn't automount if it sees udisks_ignore
[20:12] <Lantizia_> except cdda "filesystem" (he says using the quotes carefully :P)
[20:12] <TJ-> right, so can you change the automount option via dconf for type=cdda ?
[20:12] <Lantizia_> TJ-, no its on or off for everything
[20:12] <Lantizia_> and i wouldn't want it off for all cdda anyway - just this one cdemu drive
[20:13] <Lantizia_> anyway gonna have to go till tomororow the other half is home
[20:13] <Lantizia_> thanks for the help TJ- , any other thoughts just PM me :D  your help has been very much appreciated :P always like a tough challenge
[20:16] <TJ-> Lantizia_:  On Xubuntu I don't see any dconf entries for gvfs, I'll dig deeper
[20:27] <tmlake> ioria: argh, these people on #kodi-linux are nasty.. they're very smug and didn't want to help me. They said the version available in ubuntu repo is not worth their attention
[20:29] <tmlake> ioria, you guys are so much better.
[20:36] <Rochvellon> I've got a problem. there is somewhere a trigger in my system (desktop, xfce, 16.04) that let crackle my audio periodically and if xfce4-volumed is active the osd volume appears then. what could it be? this behaviour appeared the first time as I pressed the volume up or down on my old keyboard but after changing the keyboard the trigger still exists
[20:45] <becool> uRock: the broken pipe message only appears after i chmod the authorized_keys file
[20:46] <Simdol> Anyway to fix this? apt-get install -f wants to get rid of libc-bin and I doubt that I want to do that
[20:46] <Simdol> http://dpaste.com/0XV2SXJ
[20:50] <becool> how do i add write permissions to a chroot sftp jailed users' home directory without breaking their ability to ssh?
[20:50] <becool> everytime i chown or chmod their home dir it breaks their ability to sftp
[20:59] <TJ-> Simdol: looks like its due to the system having packages from 14.04 on? (binutils 2.19-0ubuntu6)
[21:01] <groke> can u run ubuntu on freebsd?
[21:09] <tomreyn> groke: maybe in a VM. but that's more of a freebsd question than an ubuntu question.
[21:09] <swills> groke: yes
[21:10] <swills> i'm doing it in vbox now, i've done it in bhyve and pretty sure qemu works
[21:10] <Cheez> groke: do you mean "ubuntu userland with the freebsd kernel" like debian/kfreebsd? or do you mean literally a ubuntu vm on a freebsd host?
[21:10] <swills> i think i have used qemu in the paste, been a while
[21:10] <swills> past
[21:18] <groke> yes Cheez ubuntu userland with freebsd kernel
[21:19] <becool> got dc. so anyone know why sftp breaks everytime i chmod or chown the sftp user home dir?
[21:19] <becool> it remains broken even if i chown back to root
[21:20] <Cheez> i'm not sure if anyone has ever done a serious attempt at it, i've seen rumblings but the UbuntuBSD project died
[21:20] <groke> oh ok
[21:20] <groke> thats a shame
[21:20] <Cheez> https://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/ debian had their attempt, too. but i'm not sure where that is, either
[21:20] <groke> ah
[21:21] <Cheez> https://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntubsd/ - but as i said, i think it's a dead project
[21:22] <groke> is it too hard?
[21:23] <Cheez> i don't know, honestly. It's not my area. I just keep an eye on such things when they come up as i cut my teeth on freebsd years before i ever got into this linux thing
[21:24] <groke> i see
[21:24] <groke> well i guess ubuntu on linux is fine too
[22:51] <KaynRyu> Could anyone possibly help me with an issue with HTML5 embedded videos not working after upgrading to 19.04 Disco Dingo
[22:52] <uRock> what browser?
[22:53] <KaynRyu> Both Firefox and Chromium
[22:54] <KaynRyu> Chromium shows the video but just is black and wont play no message. Firefox shows the black box and says "No video with supported format and MIME type found"
[22:54] <KaynRyu> I tried on my windows computer and dont get the same issue
[22:54] <uRock> How did you do the upgrade? It's either an issue with codecs or graphics driver.
[22:55] <KaynRyu> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:56] <Ben64> dist-upgrade wouldn't bring you to 19.04
[22:56] <Ben64> KaynRyu: what's the url for the video
[22:57] <KaynRyu> do-release-upgrade
[22:57] <KaynRyu> https://www.quirksmode.org/html5/tests/video.html
[22:58] <Ben64> doesn't work here, page just doesn't support Linux I'd guess
[22:59] <KaynRyu> this is the one im trying to use for testing video in my html
[22:59] <KaynRyu> http://v2v.cc/~j/theora_testsuit/320x240.ogg
[22:59] <Ben64> 404
[23:00] <KaynRyu> seems odd that embedded h.264, ogg, and WebM wouldnt be supported
[23:00] <Ben64> it is supported, I don't have problems on just about any page I've visited
[23:00] <uRock> The requested URL /~j/theora_testsuit/320x240.ogg was not found on this server.
[23:01] <KaynRyu> doesnt make sense to me haha. it works just fine when i run it on windows
[23:01] <KaynRyu> thats fine i guess i will just use something else for testing
[23:02] <TJ-> KaynRyu: Ben64  works here, if you correct the URL! http://v2v.cc/~j/theora_testsuite/320x240.ogg
[23:02] <TJ-> "testsuite" not "testsuit"
[23:03] <uRock> you, worked here. had the old colored barcode video
[23:03] <Ben64> yep that works
[23:04] <uRock> I'm using Firefox-ESR if that makes any difference.
[23:05] <TJ-> Firefox 68
[23:06] <TJ-> https://www.quirksmode.org/html5/tests/video.html doesn't show video however
[23:06] <Ben64> the video doesn't exist
[23:07] <Ben64> The requested URL /html5/videos/big_buck_bunny.mp4 was not found on this server.
[23:07] <TJ-> But that is due to 404 errors on the media files themselves
[23:07] <TJ-> HTTP load failed with status 404. Load of media resource https://www.quirksmode.org/html5/videos/big_buck_bunny.mp4 failed.
[23:07] <KaynRyu> yeah im using firefox 6
[23:07] <KaynRyu> 68
[23:07] <Ben64> https://tekeye.uk/html/html5-video-test-page
[23:07] <Ben64> that one seems to actually have videos
[23:08] <TJ-> KaynRyu: so ignore the quirks page, it's broken
[23:08] <TJ-> Ben64: yes, those videos are showing up
[23:08] <KaynRyu> okay thanks
[23:32] <sweb> is this usual that i have a request from <IP_ADDRESS> ? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zttspSQNTK/
[23:32] <sweb> i'm behind NAT
[23:33] <sweb> how it's possible ?
[23:33] <sweb> i'm using unbound as Cache/DNS server thou
[23:38] <SlickMcRunFast> Which channel would the ubuntu graphics driver PPA team hangout on?
[23:39] <sarnold> sweb: did you configure your devices or your applications to use those dns servers?
[23:39] <sweb> sarnold: yes
[23:40] <sweb> sarnold: it's okey that DNS servers request my client ? should i open firewall for them ? :/
[23:40] <sarnold> sweb: you probably should allow them to reply to your queries, yes
[23:41] <sweb> sarnold: that's wired, okey then . i donno such tip for config firewall rule
[23:41] <TJ-> sweb: that packet is a *reply* to a request from your virtual machine
[23:42] <sweb> it's always UDP ? or i must open both TCP/UDP ?
[23:42] <TJ-> sweb: UDP should be fine, TCP is nice but not essential (it is used only for large queries/answers)
[23:45] <sarnold> sweb,TJ-, DNS basically requires TCP too these days
[23:48] <TJ-> sarnold: I don't allow it and not seen any problems
[23:48] <sarnold> o_O


[02:12] <Fudge> hey guys, im trying to remember my missing step, when I use debuild i can sign a package im practicing on. bzr whoami says my email, I thought it should ask me my passphrase with my gpg key