[00:01] <bobdobbs> I just realized something: if I do "apt-get purge mysql-server": will that delete all of my existing databases ?
[00:01] <Euvius> did your php/msql get broken after upgrading too
[00:01] <tgm4883> megaman: if you find a way, let me know
[00:01] <wyoung> Euvius: php and mysql are already broken
[00:01] <Euvius> it worked before the upgrade though
[00:02] <zen-guy> bobdobbs, it will remove everything of mysql to include dependancies and configuration files
[00:02] <Euvius> is there a way to fix it
[00:02] <megaman> tgm4883: How is it possible that this basic function is impossible?
[00:02] <megaman> sometimes i just get urge to go back to windows because of these problems
[00:03] <zen-guy> bobdobbs, i'd back up the actual data
[00:03] <bobdobbs> su
[00:03] <kepler-t> new ubuntu tablet seems pretty cool
[00:03] <tgm4883> megaman: well it is possible. I just think there are some conflicts between the proprietary nvidia drivers and the ubuntu display config
[00:04] <Euvius> bobdobbs did your mysql get broken with the upgrade
[00:04] <megaman> tgm4883: I'm using opensource amd drivers
[00:05] <bobdobbs> Euvius: I don't think so. I wasn't able to upgrade anything because of the error from initctl
[00:05] <ElAleph> Can someone help me with my printer installation?
[00:05] <ElAleph> printer drivers
[00:05] <wyoung> Euvius: not all printers are supported, cups has a good list of supported ones
[00:05] <BenderRodriguez> ElAleph, what seems to be the problem?
[00:06] <wyoung> Euvius: cups may even auto detect it
[00:06] <tgm4883> megaman: you could try messing with xrandr. It has options for setting monitors to the "rightof" and "leftof" which to me says that it can put the main monitor on the right
[00:06] <zykotick9> BenderRodriguez: re:ElAleph "19:56 < ElAleph> error: Depends: lsb (>=3.2) but it is not installable"
[00:06] <ToeSnacks> Can anyone tell me what is failing here? This my syslog output when trying to log in. https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/25VqHJQH/Login+Crash.jpg
[00:07] <wyoung> Euvius: https://www.cups.org/
[00:07] <wyoung> Euvius: It should be installed already (by default).
[00:07] <ElAleph> my printer worked nicely with Ubuntu 15.10, but now isn't with Xenial
[00:07] <Jordan_U> megaman: I don't have a multi monitor setup at the moment, but I seem to recall that being in the display preferences in gnome-control-center.
[00:07] <ElAleph> I added http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/op/stable/debian/ lsb3.2 main to sources list
[00:08] <ElAleph> and try to install the driver: epson-inkjet-printer-201207w
[00:08] <ElAleph> error: Depends: lsb (>=3.2) but it is not installable
[00:08] <megaman> Jordan_U: You can set launcher, but according to google Ubuntu chooses left monitor as main, and that's what's happening to me, seems really stupid
[00:08] <wyoung> Euvius: ouch
[00:08] <zykotick9> ToeSnacks: thus your "fail whale" question.  i have zero ideas...  i'm sorry - but that is kinda a funny error message <- sorry you have it htough...  good luck.
[00:09] <dbz2k> does anyone know how to go lower my laptop brightness lower the lowest isn't compared to windows 8?
[00:10] <ElAleph> I tried to download at Epson's web page, but same error
[00:10] <ToeSnacks> zykotick9: yeah that's why I asked about the whale
[00:11] <Euvius> wyoung oh sorry. ty
[00:11] <ElAleph> the printer's model is Epson L355
[00:11] <jiffe> so I just upgraded everything in my machine except my graphics cards and hard drives and when I boot I'm getting a your system is in low graphics mode error
[00:13] <Jordan_U> ToeSnacks: http://askubuntu.com/questions/662678/critical-we-failed-but-the-fail-whale-is-dead-sorry
[00:14] <MeXTuX> I can run many applications like emulators while playing music on the background (MPlayer, YouTube) without a problem but there is a specific emulator Osmose that complains if other application is playing sounds (cannot open audio device: plughw:0,0 Device or resource busy). Is there a way to fix this issue?
[00:14] <ToeSnacks> Jordan_U: thank you, do you have any ideas about the screenshot I posted?
[00:15] <pcarrier> no 16.04 for AWS users yet? :( https://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/locator/ec2/
[00:16] <jiffe> not really seeing anything too bad in dmesg, nvidia: module verification failed: signature and/or required key missing - tainting kernel but then I see NVRM: loading NVIDIA UNIX x86_64 Kernel Module  352.79  Wed Jan 13 16:17:53 PST 2016
[00:16] <BenderRodriguez> How do I check the version of the package in apt-get
[00:16] <SpaceAce> hey guys. after an apt-get upgrade my samba shares have suddenly stopped working
[00:17] <Jordan_U> ToeSnacks: No, sorry.
[00:17] <n1md4> hi.  what version of ubuntu should i install to get a minimal console only install
[00:18] <ToeSnacks> n1md4: server prpbably
[00:19] <jiffe> [   16.749282] bbswitch: failed to evaluate \_SB_.PCI0.BR3A.H000._DSM {0xA0,0xA0,0x95,0x9D,0x60,0x00,0x48,0x4D,0xB3,0x4D,0x7E,0x5F,0xEA,0x12,0x9F,0xD4} 0x102 0x0 {0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00}: AE_NOT_FOUND
[00:19] <jiffe> any idea what that is?  bbswitch seems to be associated with bumblebee
[00:21] <ToeSnacks> Is "/etc/modprobe.d is not a file" a problem or just regular log spam?
[00:22] <reisio> ToeSnacks: things that aren't problems aren't problems
[00:22] <reisio> among things that aren't problems: text
[00:22] <megaman> I have posted this question on askubuntu.com, any help is welcome: https://askubuntu.com/questions/760942/set-primary-monitor-on-16-04
[00:22] <reisio> megaman: what's the question?
[00:22] <ToeSnacks> That may be the most worthless thing anyone has ever said. Thanks for that.
[00:22] <megaman> reisio: About beeing unable to set the right monitor as primary
[00:23] <reisio> megaman: the right or the correct?
[00:23] <megaman> reisio: What do you mean by the correct?
[00:23] <megaman> reisio: It is at right for real too, not just on display settings
[00:24] <reisio> megaman: what graphics driver are you using?
[00:24] <zykotick9> n1md4: _personally_ i'd get the mini.iso install, and uncheck _almost_ everything in the Tasksel screen... but server also works...
[00:24] <megaman> reisio: Open source amd, I haven't installed anything by my self
[00:26] <zykotick9> n1md4: <sidenote> ubuntu's mini.iso is like debian's netinst, if you are familiar with that...
[00:27] <reisio> be nice if they'd stop renaming it
[00:27] <Bashing-om> BenderRodriguez: ' apt-cache show <package> ' .
[00:27] <BenderRodriguez> Bashing-om: that does not show version numbers
[00:27] <BenderRodriguez> nevermind
[00:28] <zykotick9> BenderRodriguez: "apt-cache policy FOO" show more closely what you want, but show does work...
[00:29] <ToeSnacks> BenderRodriguez: aptitude versions PACKAGENAME works
[00:29] <Bashing-om> BenderRodriguez: 'apt list ' is quicker and the more concise .
[00:29] <zykotick9> Bashing-om: +200 points!
[00:29] <zykotick9> apt ftw!
[00:29] <BenderRodriguez> Bashing-om: apt list works
[00:29] <BenderRodriguez> thanks
[00:30] <Bashing-om> zykotick9: L) linux .. many paths to an end .
[00:30] <megaman> reisio: Any idea?
[00:31] <ToeSnacks> Does org.gtk.vfs.daemon have anything to do with login?
[00:31] <reisio> megaman: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nouveau#Dual_Head
[00:32] <ToeSnacks> I see "a connection to the bus can't be made" in journalctl
[00:32] <reisio> ToeSnacks: so what?
[00:33] <deri> test
[00:34] <ToeSnacks> reisio: so could that have anything to do with my login issues
[00:35] <n1md4> zykotick9: yeah, i tried the mini first, but there was no tasksel
[00:35] <n1md4> what the difference between the mini and server approach?
[00:35] <zykotick9> n1md4: when you run mini, and it lists what packages/tasks you want to install <- that is tasksel ?!?!
[00:36] <n1md4> zykotick9: yeah, i know, it didn't do that.
[00:36] <megaman> reisio: ehh, doesn't make sense to me
[00:36] <reisio> ToeSnacks: what login issues?
[00:36] <zykotick9> ?
[00:36] <n1md4> zykotick9: intrigued though, i'll try again
[00:37] <reisio> megaman: which bit?
[00:37] <ToeSnacks> reisio: read up in the chat
[00:37] <n1md4> zykotick9: ah, is it with expert mode?
[00:37] <megaman> reisio: I don't know what to do with that information tbh
[00:38] <zykotick9> n1md4: expert modes "shouldn't" be required... that's even MORE in depth (i almost _never_ use expert)... but ubuntu _might_ be different?
[00:38] <megaman> reisio: It says you can use the gnome control center too, and it doesn't help
[00:39] <n1md4> zykotick9: yeah, i've installed various debians for years now, and on the netinst there is the tasksel, i'm pretty sure it did'nt offer that with the ubuntu install.  i'm trying expert, as i've already got the iso dd'd
[00:40] <n1md4> hmm expert is actually too much, can't be bothered with that.
[00:43] <reisio> ToeSnacks: ?
[00:43] <ToeSnacks> reisio: what?
[00:44] <reisio> megaman: you can put it into /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[00:44] <reisio> ToeSnacks: read up for what?
[00:45] <megaman> reisio: So I change the res on that code? And it say Nvidia while I have amd
[00:46] <reisio> megaman: oh haha sorry
[00:46] <ToeSnacks> My login issues. I can not log into my system. I get kicked back to the login prompt every time I try.
[00:46] <ToeSnacks> And I have been trying to dissect logs to figure out what the problem is
[00:47] <SynfulAck> sudo add-apt-repository , is this the correct way to do it or is there a diff way since now they suggest using just apt for Xenial?
[00:47] <ToeSnacks> When is when you chimed in about things that aren't problems not being problems
[00:47] <reisio> megaman: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multihead#Example:_dualhead_configuration_using_relative_coordinates
[00:48] <megaman> reisio: I can name identifier what ever I want?
[00:49] <Dylan____> Hey guys just got ubuntu 1604 fresh off the net burned it etc and i cant install my driver for wireless on my mac cause of the change of the software center
[00:49] <Dylan____> I was able to install my wireless through the normal ubuntu software but instead i cant now with gnome software center
[00:49] <reisio> megaman: read up just a couple lines: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multihead#Configuration_using_xorg.conf
[00:50] <Brobo> I have added a new name based vhost config in /etc/apache2/sites-available and set up a soft link in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled using a2ensite. I restarted the service, but it still only brings up the original vhost. What may I be overlooking?
[00:50] <megaman> reisio: Ah okey, but I have no xorg.conf.d folder at X11
[00:51] <reisio> megaman: mkdir it
[00:52] <alu> 16.04 broke my ethernet drivers or something
[00:52] <reisio> alu: what makes you think that
[00:53] <alu> i upgraded from 15.10 to 16.04
[00:54] <alu> and the its wired but no connection anymore
[00:54] <alu> tried doing dhclient
[00:54] <alu> it was not a good upgrade but people recommended 15.10 to 16.04
[00:56] <xenialdenial> hey all, in the middle of upgrade from 15.10 to 16.04 and x kinda died (ish). I still have this firefox window, but all else is gone, including launch bar. alt-tab does nothing, super does nothing. How can i tell if upgrade is done? on session 1 using top I see 'xenial' is still using 3-5 cpu, but that might be constant in it'd "done" state.
[00:57] <xenialdenial> or maybe someway I can breathe life back into x. I'm just afraid to force a shutdown before it's ready.
[00:57] <nedstark> alu, this page may help. it lists a process that you could follow.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2222204
[00:57] <Rhorse> xenialdenial: can you switch to a console alt ctrl F1, and run top?
[00:57] <nedstark> from when someone broke their 13.10 system upgrading to 14.04 (deja vu)
[00:58] <Rhorse> then you can see what's running...
[00:59] <xenialdenial> Rhorse: yes, the only significat usage is xenial, firefox, and indicator-multi - xenial has been steady at 3-4 cpu for about 30 min
[00:59] <nedstark> i only upgrade from odd number version to other odd number versions, and from LTS to LTS.
[00:59] <Slade> Jordan_U, i think i'll let it sit for now. but i'll prepare my next upgrade to include time to figure this out ;)
[01:00] <nedstark> on the rare occasion that i need to change a box to LTS, i do a clean installation
[01:01] <SpaceAce> automatic ssh tunnels on boot, that reconnect if they lose connectivity?
[01:01] <SpaceAce> oops
[01:01] <SpaceAce> How can I create those?
[01:01] <Rhorse> xenialdenial: how long has it been upgrading?
[01:01] <Dylan____> Installing 16.04 on my hp pavillion replacing it with windows do i boot from efi or normal?
[01:01] <SynfulAck> nedstark: is that common practice, like will the upgrade be more successful following versions like that?
[01:02] <Dylan____> Whats better 15.10 or 16.04?
[01:02] <xenialdenial> Rhorse: maybe an hour at this point, it was almost finished downloading when it zonked out, then I waited a bit, it's been about 30 min since that
[01:02] <nedstark> SynfulAck, there seems to be more issues upgrading between regular and LTS or vice versa in my experience
[01:02] <nedstark> also upgrading before a new version hits .1
[01:03] <Rhorse> xenialdenial: I would wait another hour just to be sure, then reboot. It shouldn't take more than 2 hours...
[01:03] <nedstark> i would wait until 16.04.01
[01:03] <nedstark> 16.04.1
[01:03] <megaman> reisio: didn't work
[01:03] <reisio> megaman: what didn't?
[01:03] <megaman> reisio: My identifiers were like DVI-1 and HDMI-0
[01:03] <xenialdenial> Rhorse: ok thanks, any commands like "explorer" in the windows world that might bring back the gui shell
[01:03] <mcphail> xenialdenial: I might be able to help you, as I had the same problem earlier
[01:03] <nedstark> also do a clean install from the beta or rc to final
[01:03] <reisio> megaman: so?
[01:04] <megaman> reisio: I tried to save a image from google and it saved on the non primary
[01:04] <xenialdenial> mcphail: hi, cool, what did you do?
[01:04] <mcphail> xenialdenial: can you use "ctrl-alt-f4" and log in?
[01:04] <reisio> megaman: you restart X first?
[01:04] <xenialdenial> mcphail: yeah
[01:05] <Rhorse> xenialdenial: that's prolly due to your config files in your home dir being overwritten. They _should_ regenerate for the new DTE when you log in next time. Keep your fingers crossed...
[01:05] <megaman> reisio: How do i do that?
[01:05] <mcphail> xenialdenial: "ps aux | grep upgrade | nc termbin.com 9999" please
[01:05] <reisio> megaman: sudo service lightdm restart
[01:06] <Rhorse> xenialdenial: if you have a problem you can try to create another user and then login fresh with the new user. Sometimes that works...
[01:06] <xtr33> Hi guys, installed xubuntu 16.04.  The mouse pointer dissapears after resuming from sleep.  What would be the best way to resolve this issue.  08 macbook.
[01:07] <megaman_> reisio: Still same problem
[01:08] <xenialdenial> mcphail: http://www.termbin.com/5seu
[01:08] <xenialdenial> Rhorse: got it, will try that if my user doesn't work
[01:09] <reisio> megaman_: sure you got the config right?
[01:09] <nedstark> xtr33, maybe try a different desktop like gnome 3 to see if the same thing happens.
[01:10] <mcphail> xenialdenial: looks OK. You're install hasn't stuck in the same place as mine, and should be carrying on nicely in the background. Just be patient
[01:10] <mcphail> *your
[01:10] <xtr33> nedstark:  Thanks, just googled and it has been reported as a bug in xubuntu
[01:11] <xenialdenial> mcphail: cool, thanks for that grep
[01:11] <mcphail> xenialdenial: the window manager crash is a definite problem though. I had it (and couldn't cancel an important dialog) and there have been a few reports on the interweb. If you're like me, you'll have to reset compiz when you log on to 16.04
[01:12] <megaman_> reisio: https://imgur.com/a/wKUIG
[01:13] <xenialdenial> mcphail: can you tell me how to do that?
[01:14] <krytarik> xtr33: As well as mentioned in the release notes, ftm.
[01:22] <bobdobbs> Hi all. I was having trouble running 'apt-get dist-upgrade' before, because of errors related to the mysql server. I now no longer get those errors. I can run 'apt-get' operations just fine.
[01:22] <bobdobbs> But now I can't get mysql to run
[01:22] <bobdobbs> If I do 'service mysql server start', the command prompt returns without a message. But the server isn't running
[01:22] <bobdobbs> If I do
[01:22] <aerth> if it aint one thing its the other!
[01:23] <deadmund> bobdobbs: Why do you say, "it isn't running" ?
[01:23] <bobdobbs> If I do '/etc/init.d/mysqld start', I get the same
[01:23] <aerth> no output?
[01:23] <bobdobbs> deadmund: cos if I do a 'ps auxw | grep mysql', I can't see an entry
[01:25] <bobdobbs> aerth: yeah, no output
[01:25] <megaman_> reisio: So, any more ideas?
[01:26] <deadmund> bobdobbs: Anything in syslog ?
[01:26] <deadmund> megaman_: What's the problem?  can you catch me up?
[01:26] <bobdobbs> deadmund: I'm not conversant with syslog. Where should I look?
[01:26] <bobdobbs> deadmund: oh. I can see I have a dir: /var/log/mysql ... I'll look in there
[01:27] <aerth> bam
[01:27] <megaman_> deadmund: Trying to set primary monitor, have tried this without luck: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Multihead#Configuration_using_xorg.conf
[01:27] <deadmund> bobdobbs: that's even better.  REad the log.  I'm sure it says stuff :)
[01:28] <aerth> megaman_: try arandr !!!! it rocks
[01:28] <aerth> oh nm
[01:28] <deadmund> megaman_: Have you tried just using the GUI / desktop environment?  Is this unity (stock ubuntu) ?
[01:28] <bobdobbs> deadmund: looking into it now
[01:29] <megaman_> deadmund: Yea and that doesn't help, according to google it just sets left monitor as primary and that's my problem
[01:29] <megaman_> aerth: How?
[01:29] <Bashing-om> bobdobbs: upstart/systemd .. 14.04/16.04 " .. systemd is different command structure .
[01:30] <deadmund> megaman_: Seems like a limitation of unity.  In KDE for example you can arbitrarily set any monitor to be the primary one.
[01:31] <deadmund> megaman_: Have you looked at ~/.config/monitors.xml ??
[01:31] <bobdobbs> Bashing-om, deadmund well, guess what... I backed up and emptied the log file so I could generate new errors on startup. Then I started mysql with /etc/init.d/mysql. I got a message (which I'll pastebin in a moment). But now the server seems like it's running fine.
[01:31] <megaman_> deadmund: Haven't yet
[01:31] <aerth> sudo apt-get install arandr is the noob way
[01:31] <aerth> (how i do it)
[01:31] <bobdobbs> I can tell it's running cos I can load my localdev wordpress sites just fine.
[01:31] <megaman_> aerth: arandr seems so limited, how do i set primary?
[01:32] <megaman_> aerth: It says that the right monitor is primary, but that isn't true
[01:32] <megaman_> aerth: I think it just means where to place launcher with primary nothing else
[01:32] <Dylan____> Hey can you change the position of unity launcher to bottom now?
[01:33] <bobdobbs> deadmund: actually, I do get some errors. After the restart the error.log has abuot 500 new lines. The log has all these blocks that look like this :  https://pastee.org/77w2m
[01:34] <megaman_> deadmund: How do I go to that folder, where is it exactly?
[01:34] <bobdobbs> Thats a little worrying. but I guess I can only solve it on a db-by-db basis
[01:34] <aerth> no its the left one
[01:35] <aerth> i was surprised to see amazon icon in 16.04
[01:35] <magicka_> wasnt it in the prior build?
[01:36] <aerth> yeah i kind of was hoping it would be removed from default install
[01:36] <megaman_> no one in here uses dual monitors??
[01:37] <aerth> bye thank u all
[01:41] <irinix> Does anyone have a workaround for system-config-printer freezing up in 15.10?
[01:41] <irinix> during searching for driver
[01:45] <reisio> irinix: run it from a terminal and find an error message
[01:46] <irinix> reisio, apparently it decided to run for me this time.  =/
[01:46] <irinix> I've been trying for a week to add my network printer and each time it would freeze up on searching for drivers.
[01:46] <reisio> :p
[01:48] <deadmund> Are there any programs / file explorers that allow me to tag files and search over the tags?
[01:48] <reisio> deadmund: yeah...
[01:48] <reisio> look into FUSE-based "tagged" FSes
[01:48] <reisio> "taggedfs", etc.
[01:50] <reisio> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/tag-based-filesystem etc.
[01:51] <reisio> https://github.com/mwatts15/TagFS etc. etc. etc.
[01:53] <reisio> tagsistant, fsgateway, and tagfs (in no particular order) seem to have the most traction
[01:54] <ToeSnacks> so after some digging it appears my login issues are not related to lightdm but the issue is actually unity crashing. I installed i3 and can log in without issue.
[01:55] <ToeSnacks> does anyone have any ideas about tracking down a unity crash?
[01:55] <reisio> ToeSnacks: what graphics device & driver?
[01:56] <ToeSnacks> Intel/Nvidia discreet system
[01:56] <ToeSnacks> so Intel at the moment I believe
[01:57] <ToeSnacks> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
[01:57] <ToeSnacks> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GK208M [GeForce GT 730M] (rev a1)
[01:58] <reisio> very occasionally compiz will be unsupported out of the box by intel
[01:58] <reisio> ToeSnacks: install openbox, run that instead of unity/compiz, then try running compiz --replace from openbox
[01:59] <ToeSnacks> is there any logging that would indicate compiz is the culprit before I do that?
[01:59] <Dylan____> Hey my laptop has a intel core i3-4030u cpu is that good if so how many cores does it have cause it shows up as x4 on ubuntu
[01:59] <Dylan____> And are intel haswell mobile graphics good?
[02:00] <duckgoose> no intel based graphics are good
[02:00] <reisio> ToeSnacks: grep EE /var/log/Xorg*log
[02:00] <ToeSnacks> also why do I need openbox if I am in i3 right now?
[02:00] <Dylan____> Says here i have haswell mobile graphics
[02:00] <reisio> Dylan____: 4030u?
[02:00] <Dylan____> Yeah
[02:00] <reisio> http://ark.intel.com/products/81018/Intel-Core-i3-4030U-Processor-3M-Cache-1_90-GHz
[02:00] <Dylan____> Thats what the processor is
[02:01] <reisio> 2 cores
[02:01] <reisio> doubled fake cores
[02:01] <Dylan____> Hmm ok
[02:01] <Dylan____> It shows 4 cores on ubuntu
[02:01] <Dylan____> Idk why though
[02:01] <reisio> you should see four duplicates in /proc/cpuinfo
[02:01] <reisio> it pretends to have an extra core per real core
[02:01] <Dylan____> Is that like normal though
[02:01] <reisio> yes it is
[02:01] <duckgoose> Malaysia Airlines Flight 370
[02:01] <reisio> that's "hyperthreading", you've probably heard the term
[02:01] <Dylan____> Oh ok see i thought it was bad
[02:01] <reisio> on the site I linked it's # of Cores vs # of Threads
[02:02] <Dylan____> :) ubuntu seems fluid on this laptop
[02:03] <reisio> there is some debate as to whether hyperthreading is actually helpful
[02:03] <ToeSnacks> reisio: does compiz --replace need to be run specifically from openbox?
[02:03] <reisio> but it won't hurt
[02:03] <ToeSnacks> or can it be run from i3
[02:03] <reisio> ToeSnacks: oh yeah of course from i3 is fine, too
[02:03] <reisio> had forgotten that already :p
[02:04] <ToeSnacks> ok cool just making sure there wasn't a config or package that comes with openbox that the process would be dependent upon
[02:04] <reisio> no the idea is just to observe the output, from a running X
[02:05] <Vonologic> Does cinnamon run as well on Ubuntu as it does on Linux Mint? I'm trying to decide on something other than Unity
[02:05] <reisio> IME compiz produces a lovely neat error if it's just a matter of your intel device being known to have issues
[02:05] <reisio> usually you can un-blacklist it as well and accept your fate
[02:05] <reisio> Vonologic: Linux Mint is Ubuntu (and both are Debian)
[02:05] <reisio> should run roughly the same on any of the three
[02:06] <reisio> Vonologic: what don't you like about Unity, maybe you can get some suggestions
[02:06] <ToeSnacks> I saw no errors
[02:06] <Vonologic> I'm originally a Windows guy so Unity's launch bar setup isn't so appealing to me
[02:07] <ToeSnacks> actually I take that  back there's  compiz (core) - Fatal: Couldn't open display
[02:07] <ToeSnacks> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/4V4eIZwW/
[02:07] <Vonologic> Honestly, I just want something that looks like Cinnamon but isn't as heavyweight
[02:08] <reisio> Vonologic: sounds like you want Xfce, then
[02:08] <ToeSnacks> Vonologic: or mate
[02:08] <reisio> mate is heavier than xfce
[02:08] <reisio> and one might argue not well maintained
[02:08] <ToeSnacks> yeah but lighter than cinnamon
[02:08] <ToeSnacks> xfce is best though
[02:08] <reisio> :)
[02:09] <ToeSnacks> reisio: is the error in that paste anything of concern?
[02:09] <reisio> you can do something like dpkg -r --force-all ubuntu-desktop; apt-get install xubuntu-desktop; apt-get autoremove to generally switch from ubuntu-desktop to xubuntu-desktop
[02:09] <reisio> and then it'll be minimal reconfiguration of Xfce to make it look more like "Windows"
[02:09] <reisio> ToeSnacks: that's from i3?
[02:09] <ToeSnacks> reisio: yes
[02:10] <reisio> ToeSnacks: and just in an ordinary fresh terminal, not within screen/tmux, right?
[02:10] <ToeSnacks> that is with tmux
[02:10] <d4rkfr06> it's odd. Windows is trying to become Ubuntu and we sometimes customize Ubuntu to be like Windows.
[02:10] <ToeSnacks> I will rerun sans tmux
[02:10] <reisio> ToeSnacks: yes do that :)
[02:10] <reisio> d4rkfr06: people are odd :p
[02:10] <ToeSnacks> the error is replaced with this compiz (core) - Error: Another window manager is already running on screen: 0
[02:10] <ToeSnacks> all other lines are the same
[02:11] <reisio> ToeSnacks: from 'compiz --replace'?
[02:11] <ToeSnacks> yes
[02:11] <reisio> ToeSnacks: try killall i3; compiz
[02:11] <reisio> you'll lose the ability to manage windows
[02:11] <reisio> but your term should remain open
[02:11] <reisio> you can run 'i3' to get it back if compiz fails
[02:11] <ToeSnacks> thanks
[02:11] <reisio> or i3 --replace, something like that
[02:13] <ToeSnacks> reisio: kicked me back to the login screen and unity still crashes
[02:13] <reisio> ToeSnacks: okay, try it again, but do 'compiz 2>&1 | tee ~/datlogfilehotness' this time
[02:13] <reisio> ToeSnacks: altenatively you can do it from tmux
[02:14] <reisio> ToeSnacks: and prepend DISPLAY=:0 (so DISPLAY=:0 compiz)
[02:14] <reisio> or whatever ps aux | grep X says the # is, if not 0 (but it's probably 0)
[02:14] <ToeSnacks> Can this be done from tty1 or does it need to be done in an x session?
[02:15] <reisio> ToeSnacks: from anywhere if you export DISPLAY as explained
[02:16] <reisio> ToeSnacks: as long as X is actually running
[02:16] <reisio> so: 1) start i3 2) run with DISPLAY=:0 from anyplace you like 3) observe error output at leisure
[02:16] <reisio> ToeSnacks: alternatively, you can stop X entirely and try running compiz alone
[02:17] <reisio> that's how most window manager's work, but I can't say I've ever tried it with compiz
[02:17] <reisio> stop X/lightdm/gdm/etc.
[02:17] <ToeSnacks> so "DISPLAY=:0 compiz 2>&1 | tee ~/datlogfilehotness" in the terminal?
[02:19] <crypticgator> if im under a user with no admin privalage how can i run apt get commands? I tried ssh my adminuser@local and connection was refused
[02:19] <mladoux> crypticgator, can you sudo?
[02:20] <reisio> ToeSnacks: if it's in a term that won't disappear, you can just do DISPLAY=:0 compiz
[02:20] <reisio> DISPLAY=:0 compiz --replace
[02:20] <mladoux> if not, can you su into a user that can?
[02:20] <reisio> or, if X is not running, just 'compiz' (presumably)
[02:20] <ToeSnacks> Still could not open display 0
[02:22] <reisio> ToeSnacks: right, looking for an error or three
[02:23] <ToeSnacks> Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 keycompiz (core) - Fatal: Couldn't open display :0
[02:24] <ToeSnacks> That's the only error
[02:24] <alu> i have a fresh install of 16.04
[02:25] <alu> is there a better way to install nvidia drivers now
[02:25] <alu> titan x in my system
[02:25] <baytes> ts
[02:25] <reisio> alu: nope
[02:25] <alu> :(
[02:27] <FatBoyXPC> I'm running kernel 4.5.1 on Ubuntu 14.04. I am on a thinkpad x1 carbon 3rd gen. I wanted a higher kernel in order to get the acpi changes in kernel 3.19+. The only problem is, 3.19+ seems to make my laptop freeze. I've tried combing through /var/log/syslog and nothing jumps out. How can I troubleshoot these freezes?
[02:27] <Vonologic> Can someone link me a guide/tell me how to install the latest XFCE via the terminal
[02:27] <JaxJax> Hi! I wanted to set an animated .gif as my wallpaper. I'm running Lubuntu.
[02:28] <JaxJax> I tried looking up stuff but the ways mentioned through search engine knowledge don't seem to work
[02:28] <JaxJax> So I thought I'd ask here.
[02:28] <reisio> JaxJax: remind me, if you right click on your desktop in LXDE, what happens?
[02:28] <JaxJax> A lil menu pops up, with Desktop Preferences
[02:28] <reisio> JaxJax: not an openbox menu?
[02:29] <JaxJax> Yes, Desktop Prefs are one of the options.
[02:29] <JaxJax> It's very similar to what Ubuntu pulls up, would you like a pic?
[02:30] <JaxJax> And on second glance, no it's similar to what Ubuntu pulls up
[02:31] <reisio> JaxJax: no that's enough info
[02:31] <JaxJax> okay
[02:31] <tjbenator> Anyone having a problem with Ubuntu Server 16.04 booting to a blank screen? I can manually switch to tty[1-6], but it would be nice if it would boot to one of them
[02:32] <JaxJax> reisio: how would I make it work? I've tried xwinwrap already.
[02:33] <reisio> JaxJax: xwinwrap will probably work, but first you'd have to tell your file manager to stop controlling the root window
[02:33] <reisio> JaxJax: that's why you get that desktop prefs menu
[02:34] <JaxJax> How do I do that?
[02:36] <reisio> JaxJax: apparently in that desktop prefs menu
[02:37] <squinty> tjbenator,  there was a participant about a week ago (iirc) that was experiencing the same situation.  No idea if the problem was solved or not though.  might want ask in #ubuntu-server too
[02:37] <JaxJax> Okay, I did what you said, and I'm trying xwinwrap again
[02:38] <reisio> JaxJax: try this: egrep -ir 'pcman.*?desktop' ~/.config
[02:38] <tjbenator> Ah okay, thanks squinty :)
[02:38] <reisio> JaxJax: if you see pcmanfm --desktop, you can replace it with --desktop-off, then restart X
[02:40] <JaxJax> I don't see it
[02:41] <reisio> JaxJax: could also try just egrep -ir pcmanfm ~/.config
[02:42] <reisio> JaxJax: or see if you can find it directly within ~/.config/autostart
[02:43] <JaxJax> Replaced it with the off. Restarting X now.
[02:44] <JaxJax> Okay trying xwinwrap now, still a blank response
[02:45] <jiffe> isn't the grub menu supposed to show if I hold shift at boot?
[02:45] <JaxJax> Like the terminal doesn't react, it acts as if it's working on it or something but never does
[02:46] <reisio> JaxJax: what's the command you're running, and are you running it from X
[02:46] <reisio> JaxJax: your desktop should just be black/blank beforehand
[02:47] <vfw> JaxJax: Yes
[02:47] <JaxJax> "sudo ./gifbg.sh /home/terminalzero/Pictures/Wallpapers/gifbng.gif"
[02:47] <reisio> JaxJax: not with sudo
[02:48] <JaxJax> Not working, still. BG is black but gif not appearing
[02:50] <reisio> JaxJax: where'd you get your gifbg.sh?
[02:51] <JaxJax> From one of the tuts i found on google?
[02:52] <reisio> JaxJax: if it's the one I'm looking at, I doubt it'd work :p
[02:52] <reisio> try xwinwrap itself first
[02:53] <JaxJax> how would I do that?
[02:53] <reisio> JaxJax: put your gifbg.sh on dpaste.com for me
[02:55] <JaxJax> http://paste.ubuntu.com/15994700/ Paste
[02:56] <reisio> JaxJax: you got all those executables?
[02:57] <JaxJax> yes, I had to download and unpack them
[02:57] <reisio> JaxJax: might want to change it to /bin/bash as well, that script probably predates Ubuntu's dash adoption
[02:57] <reisio> or call it ash bash gifbg.sh foo
[02:58] <reisio> it as*
[02:58] <JaxJax> Well, this is really complicated. Sure wish there was a simple tar.gz that once I sudo make'd it, would work for this :/
[02:58] <JaxJax> Or a deb.
[02:59] <wyre> hi guys! ubuntu doesn't hibernate when I issue "sudo pm-hibernate" in terminal
[02:59] <wyre> anyone has ideas?
[02:59] <x-8> olow
[02:59] <wyre> 16.04
[02:59] <x-8> test
[02:59] <x-8> olow
[02:59] <x-8> test
[02:59] <x-8> ping
[02:59] <x-8> sudo airmon-ng
[02:59] <reisio> JaxJax: try xwinwrap directly first just to make sure it works on its own
[03:00] <JaxJax> How do I try xwinwrap directly?
[03:01] <JaxJax> I changed the .sh like you said and it's still just blank
[03:01] <reisio> xwinwrap --help will probably say
[03:01] <reisio> or -h, etc.
[03:02] <JaxJax> reisio: Output http://paste.ubuntu.com/15994770/
[03:02] <kai__579> hi. i am trying to use python3-dbg but it seems like not all packages have dbg symbols. for example i cant find python3-leveldb-dbg
[03:03] <kai__579> any idea what i could do. do i have to build it myself?
[03:03] <zykotick9> wyre: have you tried: "sudo systemctl hibernate"?
[03:03] <wyre> zykotick9, doesn't work either
[03:03] <zykotick9> wyre: ??? <- good luck then.
[03:03] <wyre> I think ubuntu doesn't manage power with systemctl
[03:03] <wyre> (systemd)
[03:11] <bmoloney> I am seeing a kernel oops on 16.04 which seems to be from issues with the nvme driver. The server has two PCIe NVME drives (Intel P3600).  I have been running 14.04 successfully on this hardware.
[03:13] <bmoloney> How do I file a bug if apport is not an option?  The launchpad website seems to hide this functionality.
[03:20] <neo_> hi
[03:20] <nito_> help i can install .deb on my ubuntu 16.04!!!!!!!!
[03:21] <Wulf> nito_: delete dpkg to fix this
[03:21] <nito_> thanks
[03:21] <nito_> bro
[03:21] <reisio> do eeet
[03:21] <reisio> neo_: ohai
[03:22] <JaxJax> Gave up on the gif thing :/
[03:22] <JaxJax> Thanks anyways
[03:22] <reisio> never give up (never surrender)
[03:22] <JaxJax> Why not?
[03:22] <reisio> galaxyquest :)
[03:23] <wyoung> JaxJax: that's what tim allen's character says
[03:23] <ubuntu> perv
[03:23] <JaxJax> Well Linux isn't galaxy quest.
[03:23] <reisio> isn't it?
[03:23] <wyoung> JaxJax: why not?
[03:23] <JaxJax> I don't understand why there isn't a simple .tar.gz for this, or an application
[03:23] <JaxJax> It's annoying.
[03:23] <wyoung> There are some parallels
[03:24] <wyoung> JaxJax: what are you trying to do again?
[03:24] <JaxJax> Trying to make a .gif run on my desktop
[03:24] <JaxJax> an animated one
[03:25] <wyoung> JaxJax: ok, http://ask.brothersoft.com/how-to-convert-an-animated-gif-to-an-ffmpeg-video-file-46111.html
[03:25] <reisio> there's mroe than one
[03:25] <reisio> there's*
[03:25] <wyoung> JaxJax: one way (as pasted above) is to convert it to a movie format :)
[03:26] <JaxJax> so once it's a video, what do I do?
[03:26] <wyoung> JaxJax: another is to view it in a web browser
[03:26] <wyoung> JaxJax: play it
[03:26] <wyoung> VLC <3
[03:26] <JaxJax> I mean as my wallpaper
[03:26] <JaxJax> XD
[03:26] <wyoung> you didn't mention that
[03:26] <JaxJax> Not as in viewing it
[03:26] <JaxJax> I'm sorry, Mr. Young.
[03:26] <wyoung> "run on my desktop" I thought you were being a windows user then :)
[03:27] <JaxJax> Maybe I could try using WINE to make a windows program do it?
[03:27] <n5fxx> New to Ubuntu. Yesterday installed 14.04 and had problems with the wifi connection. Today I upgraded to 16.04 and wifi is working fine :)
[03:27] <reisio> 'Wine'
[03:27] <wyoung> JaxJax: I have no idea if that is even supported by unity.  There are other desktop environments that support that, I know enlightnment did back in the day
[03:27] <reisio> JaxJax: no need
[03:28] <wyoung> JaxJax: if you want to but will be a waste of time
[03:28] <JaxJax> Well seeing as nothing else is working, might as well
[03:28] <wyoung> JaxJax: yeah but I dont see that working at all
[03:28] <wyoung> JaxJax: your issue is unity
[03:29] <JaxJax> I have XFCE
[03:29] <JaxJax> Not Unity
[03:29] <wyoung> JaxJax: ok, you didn't mention that either before :)
[03:29] <wyoung> JaxJax: anything else?
[03:30] <wyoung> JaxJax: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/05/animated-wallpaper-adds-live-backgrounds-to-linux-distros
[03:30] <JaxJax> Okay, restating what I want. I am running Lubuntu 14.04 LTS. I want to run a .gif as my wallpaper with it being animated.
[03:30] <JaxJax> Those are preset
[03:30] <wyoung> JaxJax: that isn't XCFE though, that is unity
[03:30] <JaxJax> Lubuntu is Unity? Since when?
[03:31] <reisio> you're not looking at this correctly
[03:31] <reisio> xwinwrap is your tool
[03:31] <wyoung> JaxJax: I was refering to the link I pasted
[03:31] <anchorhead> 1
[03:31] <sadex> hey
[03:32] <sadex> hello?
[03:32] <wyoung> hi hi sadex
[03:32] <wyoung> bye bye sadex
[03:32] <reisio> hi hi sadex
[03:32] <reisio> bye bye sadex
[03:32] <reisio> wyoung: I miss sadex
[03:32] <wyoung> reisio: i know right
[03:32] <JaxJax> Oh, okay.
[03:34] <JaxJax> WINE doesn't work with it. Oh well.
[03:34] <reisio> 'Wine'
[03:34] <reisio> you wouldn't want to use Wine for this, anyway
[03:34] <wyoung> reisio: that's what I said
[03:34] <reisio> twis
[03:34] <JaxJax> Well I pasted xwinwrap input to you and asked what should I do
[03:34] <JaxJax> and you didn't say anything
[03:34] <reisio> you should use xwinwrap
[03:34] <JaxJax> *output
[03:34] <alu> my stupid ethernet isnt working with 16.04
[03:35] <reisio> alu: fix it :)
[03:35] <JaxJax> Yes, but what do I enter? xwinwrap what?
[03:35] <reisio> JaxJax: xwinwrap --help
[03:35] <JaxJax> I pasted the output of that to you because it wasn't making sense to me
[03:35] <wyoung> alu: ;(
[03:35] <wyoung> alu: I am using 15.10 atm, everything works
[03:35] <reisio> JaxJax: link
[03:35] <BenderRodriguez> alu, Killer NIC?
[03:36] <JaxJax> reisio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15994770/
[03:36] <alu> I wish I never upgraded to 16.04
[03:36] <alu> everything on 15.10 worked
[03:37] <alu> now my production is delayed
[03:37] <alu> my fault entirely
[03:37] <reisio> JaxJax: try this one, with /bin/bash: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/meh/.config/master/bin/gifbg.sh
[03:38] <JaxJax> 14.04 LTS is supported till 2019, why the rush alu?
[03:38] <JaxJax> :3
[03:40] <JaxJax> reisio: Nothing happened
[03:41] <reisio> JaxJax: does 'xsetroot -gray' do anything?
[03:42] <JaxJax> It makes it gray?
[03:42] <reisio> is that a question?
[03:42] <JaxJax> No it's a statement
[03:43] <JaxJax> Maybe it's cause the file manager still hasn't stopped controlling the desktop or w/e ?
[03:43] <JaxJax> I just thought of that
[03:43] <Geo_> Good day everyone!
[03:43] <JaxJax> Hi Geo.
[03:43] <Geo_> New here, just wanted to say hi
[03:43] <Geo_> Greetings jaxjax :D
[03:44] <JaxJax> Greetings c:
[03:45] <JaxJax> reisio: how do I make it stop controlling the desktop again? (File Manager) I turned off Use Desktop as a folder in preferences
[03:45] <Geo_> Eh anyone know how to make wine work correctly in Xenial?
[03:46] <reisio> JaxJax: so the answer to "does 'xsetroot -gray' do anything?" is "no"?
[03:46] <reisio> Geo_: define work correctly
[03:46] <JaxJax> It makes part of the screen gray reisio
[03:46] <Geo_> Sorry i should of been more specific, its not capturing .exe and running them as the default package manager.
[03:47] <JaxJax> Like there's a widget thing that shows PC specs in the right corner, around that area it went gray
[03:47] <reisio> JaxJax: and if you run 'killall pcmanfm'?
[03:47] <JaxJax> whole thing gets gray
[03:48] <reisio> JaxJax: okay, now try gifbg.sh again
[03:48] <JaxJax> Alright.
[03:48] <JaxJax> Still gray
[03:48] <alu> -_-
[03:48] <alu> im going back to 14.04 i think
[03:48] <JaxJax> It has no output it just stays gray
[03:49] <JaxJax> Alu, what's up?
[03:49] <reisio> JaxJax: okay, find yourself a video, make sure mplayer is installed, and try this: xwinwrap -ni -o 0.6 -fs -s -st -sp -b -nf -- mplayer -wid WID -quiet path/to/video
[03:49] <alu> i cant even do anything, ethernet driver is messed up
[03:49] <Geo_> yeah so far, i think i want to go back to 14.04 as well haha
[03:49] <alu> im on skylake build w/ asrock z170 fatal1ty mobo
[03:49] <Geo_> But, im determined to get everything working again
[03:49] <alu> yeah but this is broken outta the box
[03:50] <alu> i just reinstalled clean
[03:50] <alu> and upgraded
[03:50] <alu> now when i restart ethernet doesnt connect
[03:50] <JaxJax> Try resetting the network adapter alu?
[03:50] <Geo_> is the network card being detected alu?
[03:51] <alu> ok
[03:51] <alu> lemme just turn the card off and on
[03:51] <Geo_> so its being detected?
[03:53] <JaxJax> reisio: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15995059/
[03:53] <JaxJax> TL:DR Mplayer says it died
[03:54] <reisio> JaxJax: no change to your gray root window?
[03:54] <JaxJax> nope
[03:54] <JaxJax> Nothing happened.
[03:54] <JaxJax> At all.
[03:54] <reisio> and the earliear 'xsetroot -gray' command gave you your prompt back, right?
[03:54] <reisio> earlier*
[03:55] <JaxJax> It turned the bg gray
[03:55] <JaxJax> yes
[03:55] <reisio> and gave you your prompt back?
[03:55] <JaxJax> yes
[03:55] <JaxJax> Didn't understand what you meant by giving my prompt back at first but yeah it let me access it again
[03:56] <Geo_> im so stupid
[03:56] <JaxJax> No you're not.
[03:56] <Geo_> Lol, fixed it by right clicking the exe and setting wine as the default
[03:57] <JaxJax> Geo, you just derped.
[03:57] <JaxJax> We all derp.
[03:57] <JaxJax> Einstein derped.
[03:57] <JaxJax> Don't feel too bad about it.
[03:57] <Geo_> ahaha yeah it happens.
[03:58] <Art220> argh!  15.10 to 16.04 killed my desktop. when I now log into unity, I see the icons on my desktop but nothing else. "windows" key doesnt work, no launcher. any ideas other than a fresh install and restore from backup. that seems like cheating. :)
[03:58] <Wulf> Art220: login with a newly created user
[03:59] <JaxJax> reisio: Why isn't that working and why did mplayer "die"?
[03:59] <Art220> thanks Wulf. that is an idea but I'd lose all in my home dir. Wondering if theres a way to reinstall (maybe reset???) the desktop environnment for that user?
[04:00] <reisio> JaxJax: sure mplayer didn't just play the video and finish?
[04:00] <Geo_> i think you can move your old Home dir to the new profile... if im not mistaken
[04:00] <Wulf> Art220: you don't lose anything
[04:01] <Wulf> Art220: create a new user, login. If it works, it must be something with your other user's files. If it does not work, it's the system.
[04:01] <JaxJax> apparently sudo made it work
[04:01] <JaxJax> holy :o
[04:01] <JaxJax> We did it :D
[04:01] <Art220> gotcha. thanks
[04:01] <Geo_> LOL its working now jax?
[04:01] <JaxJax> Now to make it loop
[04:01] <JaxJax> Yes
[04:01] <Geo_> Sweet
[04:01] <JaxJax> and it's beautiful <3
[04:02] <JaxJax> How do I make it loop reisio?
[04:02] <reisio> -loop 0
[04:02] <Geo_> hmm, So im trying to use the Package manager to install Slack - But i get a weird package installer screen and when i click install...it doesnt do anything...
[04:02] <JaxJax> at the end of the command?
[04:02] <reisio> now you should figure out how to make gifsicle work instead of mplayer
[04:02] <reisio> JaxJax: yes
[04:03] <JaxJax> Nah, Mplayer's fine
[04:03] <alu> btw guys it didnt work
[04:03] <reisio> I s'pose it can play a gif, at that
[04:03] <alu> im going back to 14.04
[04:04] <Geo_> Alu - which driver are you using?
[04:04] <alu> what driver? i just did a fresh install
[04:04] <alu> i restarted and now ethernet wont work
[04:04] <Geo_> What ethernet driver
[04:05] <Wulf> alu: ethernet not working? That's unlikely.
[04:05] <alu> i have an asrock z170 fatal1ty mini itx mobo
[04:05] <alu> http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Fatal1ty%20Z170%20Gaming-ITXac/
[04:05] <Wulf> alu: what does "lspci | grep -i ether" say?
[04:06] <alu> It shows ethernet controler: intel corporation ethernet connection (2) I219-V (rev 31)
[04:06] <JaxJax> reisio also how do i make sure pcmanfm doesn't try taking control of bg again at boot?
[04:06] <JaxJax> cause killall worked now but it might not when I reboot
[04:06] <Wulf> alu: and "ip link show"? any kernel messages?
[04:07] <JaxJax> ik how to make the command work at boot
[04:07] <reisio> JaxJax: you need to find where it's autoloaded
[04:07] <reisio> JaxJax: it's possible there's something in LXDE's menu for handling sessions
[04:07] <reisio> JaxJax: otherwise use egrep -ilr pcmanfm ~/.config/ as I said
[04:07] <JaxJax> yeah there's default apps for lxsession
[04:07] <bipul> Hi,
[04:08] <reisio> JaxJax: actually first do this test: killall pcmanfm; pcmanfm --desktop-off
[04:08] <bipul> What is schroots? And how one can used it in ubuntu?
[04:08] <reisio> and make sure the desktop is off still
[04:08] <Geo_> Alright good night guys :D
[04:08] <reisio> bipul: chroots?
[04:08] <reisio> bipul: man chroot; can be used for a variety of purposes
[04:08] <Wulf> reisio: the "s" was no typo
[04:08] <reisio> Wulf: indeed, that's how I spell purposes
[04:09] <bipul> no it's schroots
[04:09] <alu> DMESG is a cluster fuck
[04:09] <alu> I cant even read it
[04:09] <reisio> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild#Creating_the_schroots
[04:09] <reisio> alu: sounds like you're using systemd
[04:09] <alu> ACPI errir'Namespace lookup failure
[04:09] <bipul> reisio, Yes, but some part are confusing.
[04:09] <reisio> bipul: what part
[04:09] <alu> ACPI Error: Method parse/execution failed
[04:10] <alu> AE_NOT_FOUND
[04:10] <alu> its non stop
[04:10] <bipul> Create ~/.sbuildrc: <-- What does it mean?
[04:10] <Wulf> alu: start with the "ip link show"
[04:10] <reisio> bipul: ~/ is a path
[04:10] <Wulf> alu: what interfaces are there besides "lo"?
[04:10] <reisio> bipul: a special one, meaning essentially /home/youruser/
[04:10] <reisio> bipul: .sbuildrc is just a file, though the leading '.' means it is "hidden" (to things that opt to hide hidden files)
[04:11] <sprial02> hi
[04:11] <bipul> reisio, Yes,it's home directory, i know but what does it mean create? here?
[04:11] <alu> enp0s31f6
[04:11] <reisio> bipul: rc files in general are for specifying preferences or commands to applications that will parse them; in this case a config file, no doubt
[04:11] <JaxJax> reisio: It's saying no process found
[04:11] <reisio> bipul: it means create the file '.sbuildrc' at ~/
[04:11] <reisio> sprial02: hi
[04:11] <sprial02> where is this?
[04:11] <reisio> JaxJax: that's fine
[04:11] <Wulf> alu: good. That's your ethernet card
[04:11] <reisio> JaxJax: is it holding on to your prompt?
[04:11] <bipul> oh i see, to create a hidden file in home directory.
[04:11] <Wulf> alu: so what's not working? ;-)
[04:11] <JaxJax> nope
[04:12] <alu> wifi doesnt show anymore, and yeah its not getting an ip
[04:12] <reisio> JaxJax: 'killall pcmanfm; pcmanfm --desktop-off' returns your prompt?
[04:12] <Wulf> alu: dhclient enp0s31f6
[04:12] <JaxJax> yes
[04:12] <Wulf> alu: or: ip link set dev enp0s31f6 up
[04:12] <JaxJax> It does Reisio
[04:12] <sprial02> I used ubunt mate in Raspberry pi
[04:12] <reisio> JaxJax: what does 'pgrep -l pcmanfm' say?
[04:12] <alu> i tried that first one
[04:12] <Wulf> alu: and then "ip link show" again, see if it got a LOWER_UP
[04:12] <JaxJax> returns prompt reisio
[04:13] <sprial02> but I raly
[04:13] <sprial02> exit
[04:13] <alu> LOWER_UP
[04:13] <bipul> reisio, Thank you :)
[04:13] <alu> yeah but it wont connect
[04:13] <JaxJax> reisio: It returns prompt
[04:14] <pcn> Quick question: After upgrading from beta w/ gnome to release, I installed unity8.  For whatever reason, I don't have a terminal, or almost anything.  What should I be installing for that?
[04:14] <JaxJax> in the list of autostart apps it doesn't come up reisio
[04:14] <JaxJax> btw
[04:14] <reisio> JaxJax: and you said egrep -ir pcmanfm ~/.config/ returns nothing?
[04:15] <Rhorse> pcn you mean like xterm or xfce-terminal?
[04:15] <JaxJax> It returns a huge amount of text
[04:16] <reisio> JaxJax: how about egrep -ir pcmanfm ~/.config/ | grep -i auto
[04:16] <reisio> I'm not really familiar with pcmanfm, it might have stored it as a pref already
[04:16] <reisio> restart X to see
[04:16] <JaxJax> it's full of text
[04:17] <JaxJax> okay do you want me to logout and come back?
[04:17] <JaxJax> see if it's still gray?
[04:17] <JaxJax> Right?
[04:19] <reisio> JaxJax: it won't be gray
[04:19] <reisio> JaxJax: but you can run xsetroot -gray again and see if it is
[04:19] <pcn> Rhorse: for example, yes
[04:20] <JaxJax> Hi. Wallpaper returned reisio
[04:21] <JaxJax> But the loop still works :D
[04:21] <JaxJax> so I just have to autoset it to run at start and we're good
[04:24] <reisio> JaxJax: okay here's what you want to do
[04:27] <reisio> JaxJax: do you have the file ~/.config/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart ?
[04:27] <JaxJax> reisio: I don't think we have to do that, I can blank the wallpaper and have it run as is, the current thing I'm trying to do is get rid of a certain widget that's in the way.
[04:28] <pcn> So Rhorse maybe my question is: I'm sure I have a terminal installed, but there doesn't appear to be a method to launch an application via e.g. a search
[04:28] <JaxJax> So yeah I think we're good here
[04:28]  * reisio shrugs
[04:28] <JaxJax> Thanks :D
[04:28] <JaxJax> I would tip you, but I don't see a tip box so x3
[04:29] <JaxJax> And please, no Paypal, thing's just ick.
[04:29] <JaxJax> I just need a way of turning a resource number using xkill into a name of the program I am trying to remove
[04:30] <JaxJax> Cause I used xkill and it goes, leaving a resource number
[04:30] <JaxJax> The widget I'm trying to get off
[04:30] <reisio> what widget?
[04:30] <JaxJax> It displays vitals of the PC
[04:30] <JaxJax> Like in a box
[04:32] <JaxJax> BRB!
[04:40] <Glamalicious> I have a working persistent live Kubuntu 16.04 usb. I want to prevent the default live user from auto logging in so I can log in with the new account that I created. This has be done by others on Lubuntu and Zorin apparently. I want to do it with Kubuntu.
[04:44] <ubuntu> ++4444333333333
[04:50] <pcn> So, is there a way to get my unity session to where i can launch a terminal?
[04:51] <g4143> pcn: What do you by get my unity session to where I can launch a terminal? Don't you just Alt+f2 terminal?
[04:53] <g4143> pcn: Or you can use the short-cut Ctrl-Atl + T
[04:59] <pcn> g4143: neither works in my case
[05:00] <pcn> Having a touch screen may complicate this?
[05:02] <g4143> pcn: Well you should be able to open Dash...Right? I'm not familiar with Ubuntu and touchscreens.
[05:04] <pcn> It's a laptop with a touchscreen... I wonder if it thinks I'm supposed to be in some kind of kiosk mode
[05:06] <pcn> Switching the option to "desktop mode" just means I get the "Scopes" window, and I can't right-click, I can't ctrl-alt-T, it's pretty infuriation
[05:06] <pcn> *infuriating*
[05:06] <pcn> Trying to start the "browser" just has it appear in a little window, then disappear.
[05:07] <pcn> Time to go back to gnome, I guess?
[05:10] <bipul> hello
[05:11] <azizLIGHT> where do i learn how to become a package maintaner
[05:12] <azizLIGHT> i have source file, and i want ot make a ppa for everyone
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> !contribute | azizLIGHT
[05:13] <azizLIGHT> cool thanks :)
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: another interest channel could be #ubuntu-release
[05:14] <f91w> I have an external Seagate Backup+ 5TB USB3 HDD that I'm trying to access from Xubuntu 16.04. I'm unable to access/see/mount/format and have the same issue on 14.04 (Just upgraded). xhci was choking entirely until I disabled the uas module, and now I simply get this in dmesg with no binding to a device I can mount: http://paste.linux.chat/view/724f0aee What should I do so I can use my drive?
[05:14] <azizLIGHT> how does a project on gitlab can become part of ubuntu releases?
[05:14] <f91w> Drive in question: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178501&cm_re=seagate_backup%2b_5tb-_-22-178-501-_-Product
[05:15] <f91w> My USB controller is intel/c220. I've tried multiple USB ports.
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> azizLIGHT: you need to suggest new packages to be added to ubuntu repo, not sure where
[05:15] <azizLIGHT> i see
[05:16] <azizLIGHT> is this page about debs? i imagine its easier with snaps now
[05:16] <azizLIGHT> (the wiki)
[05:20] <drama> @azizLIGHT you might offer it on your own ppa first http://askubuntu.com/questions/71510/how-do-i-create-a-ppa
[05:20] <azizLIGHT> drama: this is what im thinking
[05:20] <azizLIGHT> im investigating it now
[05:20]  * drama loves ppa
[05:21] <azizLIGHT> will ppa be obsolete in 16.04?
[05:21] <drama> will debs be obsolte?
[05:21] <Wulf> will I be absolute?
[05:22] <drama> lol
[05:22] <azizLIGHT> hehe
[05:22] <bocephus> .rpm!
[05:22] <drama> Mandrake!
[05:22] <bocephus> ...waiting on this response....
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> stick to ubuntu issues guys
[05:23] <bocephus> agreed...
[05:23] <azizLIGHT> snaps sound interesting since they can include older/newer libraries and not interfere with  your own systems libraries, am i understanding that correct?
[05:23] <bocephus> I just did a huge wagon wheel on ubuntu....Ubuntu rules. Hands down!
[05:23] <bocephus> the best.
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> !info snapcraft | azizLIGHT
[05:24] <bocephus> correction: did a huge wagon wheel on Linux[everything] came back to Ubuntu...hahaha.  And all i did was want to get away from ubuntu
[05:24] <bocephus> to find its the only thing that works for me.
[05:25] <bocephus> After all that BS I order a shirt.
[05:26] <bocephus> *ordered
[05:27] <pcn> Looks like I'm running into https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1541057 so, yeah, back to gnome it is.
[05:30] <rajanmag002> Hello
[05:37] <bocephus> hello
[05:40] <Mickey2001> Hello World!
[05:42] <Xali> Mickey2001: #python
[05:49] <Massi1986> Hi all
[05:50] <bocephus> hi
[05:50] <brianx> hi there
[05:50] <Mickey2001> hello
[05:50] <Massi1986> I have a problem with wifi connection :( Can you help me?
[05:50] <bocephus> sure
[05:50] <bocephus> whats your problem
[05:50] <bocephus> ?
[05:50] <alu> should i
[05:50] <Massi1986> ID 0846:9001 NetGear, Inc. WN111(v2) RangeMax Next Wireless [Atheros AR9170+AR9101]
[05:50] <alu> dd bs=4m if=ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX
[05:50] <alu> bs=4M unnecessary?
[05:50] <Vonologic> "An error occurred, please run Package Manager from the right-click menu or apt-get in a terminal to see what is wrong. The error message was: Error: BrokenCount > 0'. This usually means that your installed packages have unmet dependencies."
[05:51] <Vonologic> Software Centre on 16.04 seems to be completely broken for me
[05:51] <bocephus> i hope there is more to that
[05:51] <Massi1986> This adapter make me crazy :/ Unstable and low speed connection
[05:52] <bocephus> did you check what type of wireless card it has?  b/n/g?
[05:52] <alu> ubuntu live usb is going to initramfs
[05:52] <bocephus> whats your through put?
[05:52] <Massi1986> Yes, it's N adapter
[05:52] <bocephus> N?  and still slow? hum?
[05:53] <bocephus> what do you think the problem is?
[05:53] <Massi1986> Slow and unstable... Every 5 minutes it's lost and reconnect... Download is impossible
[05:54] <Massi1986> In Windows working perfectly
[05:54] <bocephus> ahhh.  inbeaded card?
[05:54] <Massi1986> USB adapter
[05:55] <bocephus> ahhhh shucks that might be your problem.
[05:55] <bocephus> what type of adapter.  guess your on a desktop then?
[05:56] <Massi1986> Yes it's on a desktop PC
[05:56] <bocephus> hold on one sec....
[05:56] <Massi1986> 0846:9001 NetGear, Inc. WN111(v2) RangeMax Next Wireless [Atheros AR9170+AR9101]
[05:57] <Massi1986> wlx0026f2f0c536  IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:"Vodafone-Max"
[05:57] <Massi1986>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.462 GHz  Access Point: 64:59:F8:26:0B:08
[05:57] <Massi1986>           Bit Rate=39 Mb/s   Tx-Power=30 dBm
[05:57] <Massi1986>           Retry short limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[05:57] <Massi1986>           Power Management:off
[05:57] <Massi1986>           Link Quality=59/70  Signal level=-51 dBm
[05:57] <bocephus> I have an age all cure...you will have to pay for another adapter but it works! all Linux!
[05:57] <auronandace> !paste | Massi1986
[06:01] <bocephus> got it
[06:01] <bocephus> one sec
[06:01] <KeithWeisshar> why is the ubuntu live session freezing with a flashing icon on gtx 980?
[06:01] <bocephus> Alfa Atheros AR9271
[06:02] <wafflejock> does do-release-upgrade not work for Ubuntu Gnome yet?
[06:02] <bocephus> Model AWUS036NHA
[06:02] <KeithWeisshar> i have a skylake cpu and gtx 980 video card
[06:02] <wafflejock> getting No new release found.
[06:02] <cfhowlett> do-release-upgrade unavailable until 16.04.1 as I understand it.
[06:03] <KeithWeisshar> when i boot to live session i get an empty background with flashing desktop icons, why?
[06:04] <bocephus> hope that helps. Sorry i`m not much help past that as far a downloading drives and what not.  But feel free to friend me and let me know.
[06:04] <bocephus> telling you though.  No problems! with this adapter.
[06:07] <KeithWeisshar> is there known issues with gtx 980 on ubuntu 16.04?
[06:07] <bocephus> ...did you install macchanger? by chance
[06:08] <KeithWeisshar> i need help booting ubuntu 16.04 live session but i'm unable to get to the desktop
[06:08] <cfhowlett> !patience | KeithWeisshar
[06:14] <wafflejockPhone> Thanks cfhowlett upgrading now
[06:15] <wafflejockPhone> Is waiting till June for the .1 release normal or is that new?
[06:15] <cfhowlett> wafflejock, it's been that way for at least 2 LTS releases.
[06:16] <wafflejockPhone> Hmm k just don't remember that last time around but I may have just upgraded later
[06:16] <snadge> i want to update my work pc to 16.04 via command line.. is there a recommended way to do this?
[06:17] <cfhowlett> snadge, are on you 14.04?  if so, might want to wait until 16.04.1
[06:17] <snadge> update-manager assumes you want to use gui
[06:17] <snadge> no.. its 15.10
[06:18] <snadge> there are a few old school ways to do this.. eg.. edit your sources.list manually.. then apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade .. but im just wondering if there's a better way to do it remotely
[06:18] <iSlayWyverns> Ubuntu 16.04 - gufw won't launch? http://pastebin.com/9MFTvZ1Y
[06:19] <snadge> found it here.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Upgrades  .. thanks guys ;)
[06:19] <snadge> sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[06:19] <baizon> iSlayWyverns: sudo apt-get install python-gobject
[06:21] <iSlayWyverns> baizon, it worked, thanks. How did u understand this package was missing?
[06:21] <cfhowlett> snadge, try it but I think that only works during pre-release development stage. as 16.04 has been released ...
[06:22] <snadge> i just dropped the -d .. as it says thats for development, and it appears to be upgrading to xenial.. of course it says.. not recommended via ssh etc
[06:22] <snadge> but we'll see wont we ;)
[06:22] <baizon> iSlayWyverns: import gi, which means it needs python-gi, which is a part of ptyhon-gobject
[06:22] <snadge> i figure its better to upgrade my work pc remotely.. over a long weekend.. and come into it being broken on tuesday.. than it is to start it on tuesday and break it
[06:22] <snadge> i'll at least have a head start :p
[06:23] <cfhowlett> snadge, just tested it
[06:23] <cfhowlett> do-release-upgrade -d
[06:25] <Xark> Hello.  Hmm, wifi worked fine in Ubuntu 16.04 installer, but not after it installed (lists Intel wifi adapter as "disabled").  Is this a known issue?
[06:29] <zekk> anybody know when/if it will possible to install amd proprietary fglrx driver for 16.04?
[06:30] <baizon> zekk: well i got more fps and stable system with amdgpu
[06:31] <zekk> baizon, not first time i've heard that, but i saw some benchmark it was not pretty compared to 15.10 with fglrx
[06:33] <baizon> zekk: which benchmarks?
[06:34] <tjbenator> Was aptitude removed from 16.04?
[06:36] <zekk> baizon, i think it was a opengl benchmark.
[06:39] <baizon> tjbenator: yes it was
[06:44] <Jordan_U> tjbenator: baizon: No, it wasn't. Why do you think it was?
[06:44] <tjbenator> I don't have it on either of my systems :P
[06:45] <Jordan_U> tjbenator: You need to install it. It hasn't been part of the default install for many releases.
[06:46] <alfatau> hello all. I'm running ubuntu server 14.04 LTS. I would like to update only a couple of packages that have been recently released in the latest 16.04 LTS. Is it possible? What's the best practice
[06:46] <baizon> alfatau: use a ppa
[06:46] <Guest1725> hi all mi wifi device disconnects after about 20 minutes of using, and i need to restart to use it again
[06:46] <alfatau> baizon: why not update from the official channel?
[06:46] <tjbenator> Jordan_U: Ah, It was in 14.04. Haven't used anything in between really. Thanks :)
[06:47] <Jordan_U> tjbenator: You're welcome :)
[06:48] <Jordan_U> alfatau: No, that is not supported and is a terrible idea. What packages are you trying to get newer versions of and why?
[06:48] <baizon> alfatau: because it can break dependencies
[06:48] <tjbenator> Now to figure out how to have Ansible install aptitude so that it's apt module will work >,<
[06:49] <sebsebseb> alfatau: which packages?
[06:49] <sebsebseb> alfatau: baizon also ppa's could potentially make the system unstable or a bit
[06:52] <Blue1> has anyone had any success with gnome ubuntu?  It booted up into a weird video mode.  I tried xubuntu and that worked fine.
[06:53] <sebsebseb> Blue1: which version of Ubuntu, and what kind of graphics card you got?
[06:53] <Blue1> sebsebseb: 16.04 (lts) I have an amd Radeon HD 4650
[06:53] <sebsebseb> Blue1: oh AMD Radeon hmm
[06:54] <sebsebseb> Blue1: I read something about how with certain AMD hardware if using the propritary video driver with 16.04 there would be issues
[06:54] <sebsebseb> Blue1: GNOME probably needs something from your graphics card really for some of it's effects, hence the mode you mentioend I would have assumed, where as Xubuntu/XFCE is more old style so no I guess not
[06:54] <Blue1> sebsebseb: this is whatever driver comes packaged on the install disc -- I did a try ubuntu off the live cd first -- that failed.
[06:55] <Blue1> sebsebseb: yes xubuntu 16.04 lts worked fine off the livecd
[06:56] <sebsebseb> Blue1: it may not be your issue, since you said the default diver or whatever anyway, but even so, I guess you should know about this one anyway: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/ubuntu-drops-amd-catalyst-fglrx-driver-16-04
[06:56] <Blue1> sebsebseb: All of my systems are pretty old.
[06:57] <sebsebseb> Blue1: seems the open source driver can have some issues though as well going by that link mm
[06:57] <sebsebseb> hmm
[06:57] <Dylan____> Anyone need help atm?
[06:58] <sebsebseb> Blue1: your on the link?
[06:59] <alfatau> sebsebseb, Jordan_U, baizon: thanks. The packages are device-mapper, lvm2 and thin-provisioning-tools. The reason is that the software version is a 2012 release and I'm worried it's still in "experimental" state for thin-provisioning.
[06:59] <KeithWeisshar> when I try Ubuntu 16.04 live on gtx 980 i get a flashing error message "sorry ubuntu 16.04 has encountered an internal error" in package compwiz
[06:59] <Blue1> sebsebseb: good article -- I think I will stick with 14.04 awhile longer.
[06:59] <sebsebseb> alfatau: if you wait a month or so,  you can do a supported LTS to LTS release
[07:00] <sebsebseb> alfatau: 14.04 to 16.04.1
[07:00] <sebsebseb> alfatau: they enable LTS to LTS releaess once the first point release is out, but not before that
[07:00] <sebsebseb> I mean LTS to LTS upgrades
[07:00] <Blue1> sebsebseb: thanks for your time.
[07:00] <sebsebseb> alfatau: better then trying to update a few packages yourself in a not quite supported way really
[07:01] <sebsebseb> Blue1: may be better off on 15.10 depending on your graphics card, but I am not quite sure of that, or well for certain things
[07:01] <sebsebseb> Blue1: are you up for installing some other de's?
[07:01] <alfatau> sebsebseb: ok, so you mean to upgrade the whole system, or get single updated packages?
[07:01] <sebsebseb> Blue1: if so you could try Cinnamon, that's based on GNOME 3, but will use quite a few things on there, could be interesting to see what happens with that one,  just a thought
[07:01] <Dylan____> Does anyone need help or you good?
[07:01] <styles> Hey guys, I was here last night trying to figure out why my upgrade fom 15.04 to 16.10 isn't allowing me to have multiple monitors enabled. I'm using an AMD 7970. I was able to figure out w/ the live cd that both screens are working but my current install doesn't. I had the proprietary drivers installed until I did the upgrade. Right before, I removed them, installed the open source ones and upgraded.
[07:01] <Jordan_U> alfatau: The most important part of getting stable LVM is the kernel, and that has been updated since 14.04 was released.
[07:01] <sebsebseb> Blue1: quite a few things from there GNOME 3
[07:02] <seamus_linux> anyone familiar with compiling stuff at all?
[07:02] <Blue1> sebsebseb: I am using kubuntu 14.04 for my desktop now - I am pretty happy with it -- I will look at cinnamon .
[07:02] <Blue1> seamus_linux: yes
[07:02] <Dylan____> Styles it should pick it up automactically couldnt it
[07:02] <sebsebseb> alfatau: no I mean to just wait untill the point release, unless there is a proper rush to get updated packages
[07:02] <Dylan____> Blue1 kubuntu uses alot of resources
[07:02] <styles> Dylan____, what?
[07:03] <Dylan____> I remember in ubuntu you can have monitor setups
[07:03] <seamus_linux> I keep getting this error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lsigc
[07:03] <Dylan____> Let me google so,ethign quick
[07:03] <styles> Dylan____, right.. the issue is it Displays isnt' detecting any other monitors
[07:03] <KeithWeisshar> what causes internal error with crash in compwiz
[07:03] <sebsebseb> Blue1: that's ashame about GNOME,  but yeah I don't like Cinnamon myself much, but for testing your graphics card a bit could be interesting to see how that goes. personally my prefered one after GNOME 3 is Mate the old GNOME  2 fork yeah :)
[07:03] <Jordan_U> seamus_linux: What are you trying to install?
[07:03] <KeithWeisshar> i have an asus z170 pro gaming motherboard and a gtx 980 video card
[07:04] <sebsebseb> Blue1: Mate should work well on your computer
[07:04] <seamus_linux> some old code for a supposed atomic bomberman clone on linux
[07:04] <Jordan_U> seamus_linux: Named?
[07:04] <Dylan____> I looked up something says something about mir desktop
[07:04] <seamus_linux> source is here:  I'm working off the testinb branch: https://github.com/HerbFargus/Atomic-Bomberman
[07:04] <Dylan____> With muti monitors with hdpi
[07:04] <Blue1> sebsebseb: I say -- gnome 2 yesterday.  gnome 2 today.  gnome 2 tomorrow.  I use mate on my raspberry pi -- works very well.
[07:05] <alfatau> Jordan_U: Yes, I know. However I can't update the kernel because the dell omsa utilities are (actually) supported only for the 14.04 kernel. Otherwise I would have upgraded the kernel and implemented thin provisioning using btrfs filesystem instead of using lvm thin support...
[07:05] <sebsebseb> Blue1: Mate is what I would also persoanlly put on a computer that is having enough issues with GNOME 3 to not really want to run GNOME3 on it
[07:06] <Dylan____> Oh thats right whoever asked about monitors use amd catalyst center
[07:06] <Dylan____> You should find some settig. There
[07:06] <Dylan____> About monitors
[07:06] <Jordan_U> alfatau: Upgrading the utilities won't get you much, and using utilities that aren't part of the tested release will more likely decrease your reliability.
[07:06] <Dylan____> Gnome3s really heavy
[07:06] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: you sure it's so simple? seems there are some AMD driver issues with 16.04.   and Blue1 being effected
[07:06] <alfatau> sebsebseb: thank you
[07:07] <sebsebseb> alfatau: wrong person?
[07:07] <Dylan____> Well i dont have a amd graphics card nor nvidia so im just trying to offer some help
[07:07] <Dylan____> Plus amd arnt supporting one driver for 16.04
[07:07] <alfatau> sebsebseb: "no I mean to just wait untill the point release...."
[07:07] <sebsebseb> alfatau: oh yeah I was heling two at once you were the other
[07:07] <sebsebseb> helping
[07:08] <Dylan____> Well im just offering help:)
[07:08] <sebsebseb> alfatau: yep it will only be a month or so, and enough bugs fixed before hand to, and a point release yep, and then LTS to LTS upgrades are offically supported and on
[07:08] <sebsebseb> there will be some undiscovred bugs or more when it's first out of course, hence this point release stuff
[07:08] <sebsebseb> for LTS users
[07:09] <majnoon> i has interesting apache problem
[07:09] <Dylan____> You will have to wait 3 months for lts to lts upgrade
[07:09] <sebsebseb> alfatau: it might be three months, but I don't think it's that long
[07:10] <Dylan____> Says three months on the release notes
[07:10] <sebsebseb> oh
[07:10] <Dylan____> Yeah
[07:10] <majnoon> majnoon.ga gets default page but majnoon.ga/majnoon.ga gets the site i set up :)
[07:10] <sebsebseb> alfatau: the good news is that 16.04 offers snaps
[07:10] <sebsebseb> alfatau: so for the kind of thing you want to do in the future should be easier
[07:11] <majnoon> but it got rid of php 5 :(
[07:11] <alfatau> sebsebseb: yes, 3 months are not that long
[07:11] <sebsebseb> alfatau: since you should be able to seclectively easilly install some updated pacakges without effecting the rest of the system
[07:11] <Dylan____> They say snaps arnt secure
[07:11] <Dylan____> If you read news
[07:11] <sebsebseb> well it's a sandbox
[07:11] <Dylan____> Yeah
[07:11] <sebsebseb> there was some article  that I didn't go on yet that said a something about security
[07:12] <Dylan____> But like still it can steal private thongs
[07:12] <Dylan____> Things
[07:12] <Dylan____> Cause of x11
[07:12] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: yeah possibly, but they will sort that out I think
[07:12] <sebsebseb> or more so
[07:12] <Dylan____> MJnoon what browser you usimg
[07:12] <sebsebseb> yeah 16.04 will keep X11 but I think as of 16.10 things may even go to Mir by default and Unity 8
[07:12] <Dylan____> Yeah
[07:12] <fooctrl> when could we expect Snappy support for Raspberry Pi 3?
[07:12] <majnoon> chrome on my windows laptop
[07:13] <Dylan____> Majnoon this is a ubuntu fourm not windows fourm
[07:13] <alfatau> sebsebseb: yes, I would like to upgrade the whole system but I'm stucked with the upgrades of http://linux.dell.com/repo/community/ubuntu/ . I tried to upgrade the kernel to get latest btrfs support and omsa stopped working.
[07:13] <majnoon> i THINK it a configuration error on apache THAT on ubuntu 16.054
[07:13] <majnoon> *16.04
[07:13] <sebsebseb> alfatau: oh you got an actsaul Ubuntu Dell lap top?
[07:13] <sebsebseb> alfatau: pre installed by Dell one of those?
[07:13] <Dylan____> Yeah 16.10 will go to unity 8 plus add support for mir mutiple monitors hpdi
[07:14]  * Blue1 will wait for the .1 release
[07:14] <majnoon> Dylan____: i think the trouble with apache
[07:14] <Dylan____> Sorry i dont know apache web servers
[07:14] <majnoon> my server is ubuntu 16.04
[07:14] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: yes and around that time most other distros will go to Wayland as well or start going that way, will be interesting :) times :).  Plus the Wayland support in GNOME and I guess KDE to, is nearly there as well :)
[07:14] <Dylan____> Indeed:)
[07:15] <majnoon> is there an #apache ??
[07:15] <Dylan____> So everyone happy with 16.04!
[07:15] <Dylan____> You could check
[07:15] <Dylan____> I installed 16.04 fresh on my hp
[07:15] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: Fedora 24 will be one of the first to go Wayland it seems, then plenty of other distros will follow after that.  Mir will be for Ubuntu and some distros based on it I guess.  but some of those may even try some how and avoide Mir depends
[07:15] <Dylan____> No errors so far
[07:15] <Dylan____> Yep
[07:16] <Dylan____> Mir will be on snappy personal packages
[07:16] <alfatau> sebsebseb: I've ubuntu on Dell Poweredge T320 server with hw raid controller H710. I need some snapshot feature because I have to expose through windows network a data volume in r/w mode and data are so big I can't make historical backups. So the idea is to keep a number (e.g. 30) of daily snapshot and restore from snapshot if data deleted/corrupte
[07:16] <alfatau> d/cryptolocker...
[07:17] <Dylan____> Did they let us have unity 7 or 8 or is that next release
[07:17] <sebsebseb> alfatau: hmm I don't know much about snapshots, but yeah BTFS could have been useful for that I guess, but thats not supported by 14.04,  and only experiemtnal or not fully supported in 16.04 even I guess. Ext4 still default
[07:17] <sebsebseb> alfatau: you would have to re install the whole system anyway to change file system
[07:18] <alfatau> sebsebseb: so I need dell omsa utilities to be warned (email) in case of disk failures.
[07:18] <sebsebseb> alfatau: BTFS hmm about the only distro actsually doing that by default with the excepttion of SalifishOS on the Jolla Phone, seems to be OpenSuse for some reason hmm
[07:19] <Dylan____> What type od server you running alfatau?
[07:19] <sebsebseb> alfatau: I  don't really know about general snapshot type programs for Linux, but I get the impression from things I have read over the years, that it's not really a  paritucarly great area when itcomes to things availalbe and such
[07:19] <sebsebseb> !server
[07:19] <alfatau> sebsebseb: yes, in fact the idea is to use LVM thin provisioning, which seem to be supported in RHEL starting from RHEL7
[07:20] <sebsebseb> alfatau: someone might be able to help you more in there if  around actsaully
[07:20] <styles> Dylan____, the prop amd drivers dont work Jordan_U was helping me last night.
[07:20] <styles> I think we figured out it had something to do with DMI not supported or something
[07:20] <alfatau> Dylan____: dell poweredge t320 with perc h710 raid controller
[07:20] <Dylan____> Have gou tried rsnapshot?
[07:21] <sebsebseb> styles: AMD  don't supporte the prop driver for 16.04 it seems going by this for example: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/03/ubuntu-drops-amd-catalyst-fglrx-driver-16-04
[07:21] <styles> sebsebseb, yeah
[07:21] <Dylan____> Yeah 16.04 did they drop the fglx driver or something
[07:21] <styles> Yeah I know this, the open source driver is running but it's not detecting multiple monitors
[07:21] <Dylan____> Hmm
[07:21] <styles> Under "displays" it's only showing one monitor locked
[07:22] <Dylan____> Have you tried asking on the forums
[07:22] <Dylan____> ?
[07:22] <sebsebseb> styles: I have a feeling that the AMD open source driver actsaullly is pretty rubbish unlike say the Intel one
[07:22] <styles> No, I don't even know what to ask
[07:22] <sebsebseb> styles: Intel actsauly support that htem selves
[07:22] <styles> Jordan_U, was helping me last night and we couldn't figure it out :(
[07:22] <Dylan____> Styles try and ask on the forums
[07:22] <styles> Well he couldn't, I'm not much help
[07:22] <majnoon> here my virtualhost http://pastebin.com/AsmwiZNN
[07:22] <sebsebseb> styles: what I mean is I have a feelig you would probably get some issues with multiple monitors as you say when you said that
[07:22] <Dylan____> Someone should find you a answer
[07:22] <sebsebseb> styles: with AMD open driver
[07:22] <styles> sebsebseb, it works fine w/ the Live CD
[07:22] <sebsebseb> oh
[07:22] <Dylan____> I have a hp laptop with intel core i3 dont know what the little intel microcode thingnis on the driver
[07:22] <styles> It's just my current install (that was upgraded from 15)
[07:23] <sebsebseb> styles: sometimes  the Live CD's ofa  distro something like that owrks, but then an install goes differnet
[07:23] <styles> Yeah
[07:23] <sebsebseb> styles: clean install from a 16.04  install media?
[07:23] <styles> Since xorg isn't in the picture I'm not sure how to reset all the setting
[07:23] <styles> sebsebseb, I just did that recently... I'm really avoiding this
[07:23] <Dylan____> Do i need to install drivers for intel or not?
[07:23] <cyborq> no
[07:23] <majnoon> is there a way i can get php 5 back ?
[07:23] <sebsebseb> styles: I don't think you can do much with the AMD issue, once you upgraded etc
[07:23] <Dylan____> Ok thxs
[07:23] <cyborq> dont need to install drivers
[07:23] <sebsebseb> styles: going by my earlier link as well
[07:24] <Dylan____> Can i ask are haswell graphics bad
[07:24] <sebsebseb> styles: I think your best bet is to try a clean install of 16.04, or even downgrade back to 15.10 for the time being
[07:24] <Dylan____> Cause thats what i have
[07:24] <Dylan____> Apprently
[07:24] <sebsebseb> styles: configuration can not quite upgrade how it should have. on distro version upgrades to,
[07:24] <Dylan____> And i have a intel core i3 that shows in ubuntu that its hyperthreading
[07:24] <sebsebseb> styles: in general
[07:24] <sebsebseb> styles: sometimes
[07:25] <Dylan____> Styles what ubuntu did you have 14.04.3?
[07:25] <styles> 15
[07:25] <Dylan____> Oh ok
[07:25] <Dylan____> 15.10?
[07:25] <cyborq> ubuntu 15.10 is discontinued
[07:25] <Dylan____> No it isnt
[07:25] <sebsebseb> styles: not yet
[07:25] <Dylan____> Next month isnt ot
[07:25] <sebsebseb> cyborq: it should go end of life at the end of July
[07:25] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: no
[07:25] <Dylan____> My bad
[07:25] <alfatau> Dylan____: well, when possible I'm doing incremental daily backups using rsync onto an external storage. However I've an huge volume containing huge files so I can't use the same backup method. The choice is to keep 2 copies, daily synchronized. HW supporting the huge space needed is too expensive for my company. Also I've to keep that data exposed
[07:25] <alfatau>  through samba in r/w. The only option I found to safely expose it is to keep some few block-based snapshots in order to being able to recover from one of them, even if during daily synchronization with the other copy replicates the eventually corrupted data.
[07:25] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: 9 months support, so end of July
[07:26] <Dylan____> Yeah 9months of support
[07:26] <cyborq> Dylan_: I read in omgubuntu
[07:26] <Dylan____> Lts gets 5 years of support with security etc
[07:26] <Dylan____> So 16.04 will be supported till 2021
[07:26] <sebsebseb> yep
[07:26] <sebsebseb> altough
[07:26] <sebsebseb> that's only Ubuntu
[07:26] <Dylan____> Then 16.10 is another nine months
[07:26] <sebsebseb> itsel
[07:26] <sebsebseb> f
[07:26] <sebsebseb> since Lubuntu Kubuntu and all taht
[07:26] <sebsebseb> only seem to do three years
[07:27] <Dylan____> The other varients only last 3 months
[07:27] <Dylan____> I mean 3 years
[07:27] <sebsebseb> or three yearas of full support even for the LTS
[07:27] <Dylan____> Lts are for like servers arnt they
[07:27] <cyborq> Have anyone familiar with ubuntu mate?
[07:27] <Dylan____> Kind of why?
[07:27] <Dylan____> Im used it before but not much
[07:27] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: LTS is for people who don't want to upgrade every 9 moths or so
[07:27] <Dylan____> Oh year
[07:27] <Dylan____> Haha
[07:27] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: LTS used to be more  for servers and businesses etc
[07:28] <Dylan____> Yeah thsts what i thought
[07:28] <cfhowlett> cyborg, avoid "anyone else ..." question structure.  ask YOUR questions with YOUR details.
[07:28] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: LTS is now more aimed at anyone in general
[07:28] <Dylan____> Yep
[07:28] <cyborq> cfhowlett: ok
[07:28] <Dylan____> How you doing cfhowlett?
[07:28] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: but if you want to keep on  moving along with new stuff,  you either run non LTS versions,   and even possibly development veriosns sometimes
[07:28] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: every relase builds up and up a bit, untill the next LTS really
[07:29] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: now that 16.04 is out, they can move on to the next big thing, which will probably indeed be dropping Xorg and Unity 7 by default and probably from the repos and everything as well, and going to Mir and Unity 8 yep
[07:29] <Dylan____> Yeah
[07:29] <Dylan____> For sure
[07:29] <sebsebseb> 16.10 should bei interesting
[07:29] <sebsebseb> well it better be in  a way, after things I hve read onlien for months now!
[07:30] <Dylan____> They will go for mir and shuttleworth will allow us either unity 7 or 8
[07:30] <cyborq> I use fedora and installed ubuntu this morning(India). It shows that the kernel version is 4.4.0 whereas fedora has 4.4.7
[07:30] <cyborq> How to install kernel 4.4.7 in ubuntu
[07:30] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: to be honest I think they should just drop Unity 7 and Xorg compelty from 16.10 as long as ready enough to replace Xorg and Unity 7 by then
[07:30] <sebsebseb> Dylan____: people who want the old stuff  still can run 16.04
[07:30] <Dylan____> For sure i agree
[07:31] <Dylan____> Cyborg maybe fedora have a kernel like earlier then ubuntu?
[07:31] <Dylan____> Or that just because ubuntu havnt got around to updating kernels idk for sure
[07:32] <Dylan____> I know 14.04.3 last kernel was 3.19
[07:32] <cyborq> Does ubuntu upgrades its kernel in every possible update?
[07:32] <Dylan____> No i think you can upgrade kernel manually
[07:32] <Dylan____> Through synaptic
[07:32] <sebsebseb> cyborq: nope only usually security updates
[07:32] <sebsebseb> cyborq: and they stick to a version
[07:32] <sebsebseb> series
[07:32] <Dylan____> Yea
[07:33] <cyborq> Why ubuntu is not doing like fedora..
[07:33] <sebsebseb> cyborq: Fedora doesn't just give you a later kernel either
[07:33] <sebsebseb> cyborq: in some new series
[07:33] <Dylan____> Im sure u can update the kernel if you want through synaptic
[07:33] <cfhowlett> cyborg if you want fedora, use fedora.  ubuntu is not fedora and there is no good reason why ubuntu should follow fedora.  nor the reverse.
[07:33] <Blue1> sebsebseb: I tried gnome-ubuntu on my server box - which has an nvidia ge force 210 in it -- and it just booted up to a terminal prompt -- I don't know what the default userid/password was.
[07:33] <Dylan____> Fedora is more used for businesses right?
[07:34] <alfatau> Dylan____: do you think there's a better way to solve the problem than lvm thin snapshots?
[07:34] <Dylan____> Not sure
[07:34] <Dylan____> Hmm
[07:34] <sebsebseb> Blue1: was that from Ubuntu server ISO?
[07:34] <sebsebseb> Blue1: that computer
[07:35] <Dylan____> Anyone need some assistance?
[07:35] <rahul_> my optimus nvidia card doens't support ubuntu . Need help
[07:35] <Dylan____> They dropped bumblebee
[07:35] <Blue1> sebsebseb: yes, that was the iso from https://ubuntugnome.org/
[07:35] <sebsebseb> Blue1: oh
[07:35] <Dylan____> Rahul whats the card?
[07:35] <rahul_> nvidia gt 740m
[07:36] <sebsebseb> Blue1: did antyhing graphical work on there?
[07:36] <Guest40958> hi all. my wifi disconnects after 20 min. i need restart computer to connect again
[07:36] <rahul_> with integerated graphics from intel 4400 hd
[07:36] <sebsebseb> Blue1: may need to install propriatry nvida driver some how or try to even
[07:36] <Blue1> sebsebseb: i don't know it booted to a terminal prompt:  gnome-ubuntu:  but I don't know the default userid/password
[07:36] <Dylan____> Look here
[07:36] <Dylan____> http://askubuntu.com/questions/691446/ubuntu-couldnt-detect-nvidia-gt-740m ranul
[07:37] <sebsebseb> Blue1: are you in as root?
[07:37] <Blue1> sebsebseb: what is the default userid/password for the livecd?
[07:37] <sebsebseb> or not I gues not
[07:37] <rahul_> done all those . once broke my display @sebsebseb
[07:37] <sebsebseb> Blue1: you can probably get in to a root prompt from the grub recovery mode anyway
[07:37] <sebsebseb> Blue1: then passwd username and re set the password
[07:38] <rahul_> i successfully installed bumblebee but doesn't work for me . Please help
[07:38] <sebsebseb> Blue1: or sudo passwd username I guess since Ubuntu
[07:38] <Blue1> sebsebseb: well this is off the livecd/try ubuntu -- so I don't know how to go any farther if I don't know what they use for a default.
[07:38] <rahul_> I have done all of that Dylan_
[07:38] <Dylan____> Hmm rahul thats why i hate nvidia drivers
[07:38] <sebsebseb> Blue1: try live and live I guess as username and password
[07:38] <Dylan____> They give you black screens etc
[07:38] <rahul_> yes
[07:38] <rahul_> exactly
[07:38] <Dylan____> Im had that trouble on my nvidia 320m and found to fix it i had to install nvidia 3-40
[07:39] <rahul_> could you help any solution ?
[07:39] <Dylan____> I can try giving you links
[07:39] <sebsebseb> Blue1: or ubuntu and ubuntu
[07:39] <rahul_> Yeah . I tried all of them of ask ubuntu ?
[07:39] <rahul_> !
[07:39] <Blue1> sebsebseb: I think the default userid is ubuntu and the password is blank.  I don't know what they use for a display manager for gnome - but I will give it a try.
[07:39] <sebsebseb> Blue1: GDM Gnome Display  Manger or if not LightDM
[07:39] <rahul_> can you debug forme
[07:40] <rahul_> dmesg ?
[07:40] <Dylan____> Rahul have tou asked on ubuntu forums
[07:40] <rahul_> yes .
[07:40] <rahul_> i had my thread too.
[07:40] <Dylan____> Have you started thread
[07:40] <rahul_> but no one is able to solve this
[07:40] <Dylan____> If so whats it under
[07:40] <rahul_> wait
[07:41] <Dylan____> Lightdm xd
[07:41] <Blue1> okay lightdm makes sense -- I am rebooting off the livecd now on my other box
[07:41] <rahul_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/718081/ubuntu-14-04-nvidia-gt-740-m-drivers-not-working
[07:42] <Dylan____> Rahul no no no
[07:42] <Dylan____> I mean go on to actual ubuntu fourms
[07:42] <rahul_> OK
[07:43] <Dylan____> http://ubuntuforums.org
[07:43] <Dylan____> Make an account make a thread
[07:43] <Dylan____> Under the correct subheading
[07:43] <kopias> im using ubuntu-mate (15.10 upgraded to 16.04) and maybe someone have a link or know where to look: when i hit brighness up (laptop lenovo u550) in text editor i see this character inputed "±"
[07:43] <Dylan____> And you should get some answers
[07:43] <rahul_> isn't askubuntu official one ?
[07:43] <sebsebseb> alfatau: yeah
[07:43] <sebsebseb> alfatau: wrong one
[07:43] <sebsebseb> rahul_: yeah or community
[07:43] <Dylan____> Not really people would ask for answers on ubuntufourms
[07:44] <sebsebseb> rahul_: that's like help pages, but actsaul forum can be better
[07:44] <Dylan____> I find answers more easy on the ubuntu fourms
[07:44] <Dylan____> Cause people might have same problem as you
[07:44] <rahul_> OK Thanks sebsebseb and Dylan__
[07:44] <rahul_> Nice talking to you
[07:44] <Dylan____> Post the fourm under hardware i suppose
[07:44] <Dylan____> If its a graphic card rigjt sebsebseb
[07:45] <Dylan____> Or general help?
[07:45] <sebsebseb> I don't use the forum
[07:45] <Dylan____> Ohh pl
[07:45] <Dylan____> Ok
[07:45] <Dylan____> I use the fourms
[07:45] <Dylan____> Just post it under hardware
[07:45] <Dylan____> Should find someone tomorrow or in a day whow ill respond
[07:45] <sebsebseb> rahul_: yep should get quite a quick response and the more detail  you put the better usually
[07:46] <kopias> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal-info/+bug/327707 - i have this but for lenovo u580
[07:47] <Dylan____> Probs got somthign do with graphics card kopias
[07:47] <kopias> *u550
[07:47] <Dylan____> If the keys wint work
[07:47] <wafflejock> oooo new Gnome upgrade went pretty smooth so far it looks like, got an error about mysql not upgrading properly apparently I'm still on 5.7 instead of 7.x it was trying to upgrade to but that was the only error I saw
[07:47] <kopias> Dylan____, there is a solution in this bug raport will try that
[07:48] <Dylan____> Ok
[07:48] <Blue1> sebsebseb: the default userid/pass for gnome-ubuntu is NOT ubuntu then a return - do you know what it might be?
[07:49] <Dylan____> Quick notice kopias that bug report
[07:49] <sebsebseb> Blue1: no but may say on there site some where
[07:49] <Dylan____> Thats for jaunty
[07:49] <sebsebseb> Blue1: and I suggeted live and live earlier, and ubuntu and ubuntu
[07:49] <Dylan____> Not for current versions of ubuntu
[07:49] <sebsebseb> Blue1: maybe gnoe and gnme
[07:49] <Dylan____> Jaunty is outdated
[07:49] <Dylan____> way outdated
[07:49] <sebsebseb> Blue1: I don't think there should be a password really etc
[07:50] <Dylan____> Can i ask why java doesnt show up in new software center
[07:50] <sebsebseb> Jaunty was an ok release
[07:50] <sebsebseb> !java
[07:50] <Blue1> sebsebseb: usually it's ubuntu and return but that didn't work
[07:51] <Dylan____> So blie
[07:51] <Dylan____> Whats wrong blue1?
[07:51] <majnoon> i think did something wrong setting up virtualhosts
[07:51] <majnoon> majnoon.ga no work BUT majnoon.ga/majnoon.ga DOES
[07:51] <majnoon> here my virtualhost http://pastebin.com/AsmwiZNN
[07:52] <Dylan____> Majnoon.ga displays something about ubuntu
[07:53] <Dylan____> Brb shower
[07:53] <cage_raphel> Hello.. i recently upgraded to Ubu 16.04 and since then there has been no sound when i play video / music.. pls help
[07:54] <sebsebseb> cage_raphel: and you looked inteh sound setting?
[07:55] <kopias> btw. i had the best experience upgrading to 16 :]
[07:58] <maro> what project in launchpad is the normal ubuntu desktop installer?
[07:58] <maro> ubuntu-express?
[07:58] <tosate> Hi there, my virtual server running Ubuntu shows some /usr/bin/php5-cgi processes which consume a lot of cpu.
[07:58] <sebsebseb> maro: what d o you mean? Launchpad is a web thing
[07:59] <wuchenghui> 怎么用啊
[07:59] <wuchenghui> 直接打字就可以吗
[07:59] <tosate> I have no idea what's going on. netstat shows a lot of connection from a Russian and a Chinese IP address.
[07:59] <tosate> Any suggestions?
[08:00] <sebsebseb> tosate: yep the spy agencies are after you :d, joking :)
[08:00] <maro> @sebsebseb i mean in which project in launchpad to i report or look for bugs in the installer :)
[08:00] <wuchenghui> join #linuxba
[08:00] <baizon> tosate: thats normal, people are scanning for vulnerabilities
[08:01] <sebsebseb> !bugs maro
[08:01] <baizon> tosate: if you use old software, they can be abused, so you get hacked
[08:01] <sebsebseb> !bug
[08:01] <maro> !bugs
[08:02] <Blue1> sebsebseb: a cold boot off the gnome-ubuntu livecd worked on my server box with the nvidia card.
[08:02] <sebsebseb> Blue1: a cold boot as in?
[08:02] <tosate> baizon: how can I tell that I am being hacked?
[08:04] <sebsebseb> Blue1: if it works in the Live session
[08:04] <tosate> I can only see http connections in netstat. If they would use the server for sending SPAM, there should be SMTP connections, right?
[08:04] <sebsebseb> Blue1: from Live Media
[08:04] <sebsebseb> Blue1: if you install from that clean  install, should work  on a install as wel
[08:04] <baizon> tosate: check logs
[08:04] <baizon> tosate: check your logs for suspicious activities
[08:05] <sebsebseb> from baizon :d
[08:07] <tosate> baizon: what would you consider as a suspicious activity?
[08:07] <baizon> tosate: someone logging in, programs doing some weired stuff
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> tosate: what ubuntu version is this, and what services are you running?
[08:08] <tosate> baizon: someone logging in would be visible in /var/log/auth.log
[08:08] <wafflejock> tosate: using fail2ban can help to block unwanted requests against the server by default pretty sure it just watches auth log for bad login attempts and uses the iptables to filter certain IPs for a set time (all set through config)
[08:09] <wafflejock> tosate: you can configure it to parse other log files though with your own parsing rules it's not terribly complicated if you want something better tuned to monitor and block undesireables
[08:10] <wafflejock> tosate: would probably check the web server access logs too to see which file is being hit
[08:11] <wafflejock> tosate: you also may consider profiling on the server to get some cachegrind files that show what it's spending CPU time on in the PHP process
[08:11] <tosate> Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS running plesk with apache2, courir, qmail, ssh
[08:11] <wafflejock> tosate: would use xdebug for that
[08:11] <lotuspsychje> tosate: you keep your system up to date asap also?
[08:11] <tosate> lotuspsychje: I do
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> !info fail2ban | tosate suggested by wafflejock
[08:13] <tosate> ok, thank you! I will try fail2ban
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> tosate: a deeper scan with rkhunter, clamav and snort as intrusion detector might be good idea also perhaps
[08:13] <lotuspsychje> !security | tosate
[08:13] <ubuntunoob> hello world! I've tried to enable pam_tty_audit in 16.04, but # aureport --tty tells me 'no events' (tried reboot too). I've tried to add 'session   required     pam_tty_audit.so enable=*' to /etc/pam.d/login and /etc/pam.conf . What am I doing wrong?
[08:15] <cage_raphel> Hello.. i recently upgraded to Ubu 16.04 and since then there has been no sound via HDMI output.
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: wich graphics card and driver are you on?
[08:16] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, how do i check that ?
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: sudo lshw -C video
[08:17] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15996995/
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: ok did you try a pulseaudio restart?
[08:18] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje,  i did not
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: can you try a sudo service pulseaudio restart
[08:19] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, done
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: check your sound now?
[08:21] <delikt_> hi guys :) sometimes if i start a game (sometimes randomly) my mouse (razer naga epic) stucks - if i typing xsetpointer -l | grep Pointer in the terminal my mouse isnt there anymore... had anyone a idea why my mouse randomly get unplugged?
[08:21] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, when i try to play a video on youtube there is no sound, however when i test sound via settings.. i get a front left and a front right thro the tv speaker output
[08:22] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: can you play sound on vlc?
[08:22] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, let me check
[08:23] <iSlayWyverns> sudo sed -i 's/UTC=yes/UTC=no/' /etc/default/rcS - This would usually fix my time problem with Ubuntu/Windows (at least on 14.04) but now it doesn't... 'cause the file doesn't contain a UTC attribute
[08:24] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, i dont have a vlc. i have rythm box and videos.. and i am not getting any sound if i play music via rythmbox
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> !sound | cage_raphel try all these steps
[08:24] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: check also your dmesg and syslog for any sound related issues
[08:25] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, how do i check dmesu and syslog?
[08:26] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: with the logviewer icon, or manual browse to /var/log/..
[08:27] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, ok thank you
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: you can share the pastebin, ill have a look if you want
[08:27] <deraffenarsch> hey
[08:27] <deraffenarsch> IS IT OUT????????????
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> deraffenarsch: yes
[08:27] <deraffenarsch> IT IS OUT!!!!!!! YES!
[08:27] <lotuspsychje> deraffenarsch: ubuntu.com
[08:27] <deraffenarsch> 16.04
[08:28] <deraffenarsch> Somebody tested?
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> deraffenarsch: we all did
[08:28] <Ben64> nope, nobody tried it yet
[08:28] <deraffenarsch> Or should I still use 14.04?
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> deraffenarsch: your choice
[08:28] <akhil> Hi guys and gals. I am having a problem with 16.04. Black screen on suspend. Anyone else facing the same trouble?
[08:28] <cfhowlett> deraffenarsch, your machine your choice
[08:28] <delikt_> deraffenarsch, hast du ne amd graka?
[08:28] <Ben64> if you're on 14.04, you should stick with it until 16.04.1, as that is when the upgrade will show
[08:28] <deraffenarsch> how long is 14.04 SUPORTED!!!!!!!!!!!!???????????
[08:28] <iSlayWyverns> How do I check what Java packages I've got install?
[08:28] <deraffenarsch> delikt_: nein no
[08:28] <lotuspsychje> !english | delikt_
[08:28] <Ben64> deraffenarsch: stop yelling...
[08:28] <cfhowlett> deraffenarsch, drop the !!! please
[08:28] <deraffenarsch> ok
[08:29] <deraffenarsch> i try my best lovers
[08:29] <iSlayWyverns> nevermind, got synaptic
[08:29] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15997176/
[08:29] <delikt_> deraffenarsch, dann hast du zumindest kein problem mit den neuen amdgpu treiber
[08:30] <deraffenarsch> machen die neue  probleme?
[08:30] <deraffenarsch> Defaultti:
[08:30] <deraffenarsch> delikt_:
[08:30] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: no, pastebin /var/log/syslog or /var/log/dmesg
[08:30] <delikt_> ohh sorry
[08:30] <delikt_> i will write english with my german dude ^
[08:30] <cfhowlett> do so in a private channel please, delikt_
[08:30] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje,  so in the terminal do i type cd /var/log/syslog ??
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: syslog is a file
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: you can cd to /var/log
[08:31] <delikt_> hi guys :) sometimes if i start a game (sometimes randomly) my mouse (razer naga epic) stucks - if i typing xsetpointer -l | grep Pointer in the terminal my mouse isnt there anymore... had anyone a idea why my mouse randomly get unplugged?
[08:31] <deraffenarsch> nous peuvons parler francais aussi.-
[08:31] <lotuspsychje> !fr | deraffenarsch
[08:31] <akhil> Hi all. I am having a problem with the suspend on 16.04. Screen immediately blanks out. Does not even go into suspend and does not respond.
[08:31] <deraffenarsch> i can speak all lanmguages lotuspsychje
[08:32] <cfhowlett> deraffenarsch, english only in this channel.  please respect the rules or play elsewhere
[08:32] <deraffenarsch> yes :)
[08:32] <deraffenarsch> can my nickname STAY german?
[08:32] <lotuspsychje> deraffenarsch: please dont use this channel for non-support chitchat
[08:32] <Kiwikaki> yep
[08:32] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15997214/
[08:32] <hari_> hall sir.  i am getting while updating my system via synaptic package manager.  the error is : W: http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release.gpg: Signature by key 4CCA1EAF950CEE4AB83976DCA040830F7FAC5991 uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)
[08:33] <deraffenarsch> great i should better not translate my nick, it would be something like "themonkeyass"
[08:33] <akhil> cfhowlett: Any idea on the suspend black screen problem?
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: lol no, pastebin syslog now
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: you need to open syslog or dmesg with an editor
[08:33] <cfhowlett> none, akhil.  that's why I did not comment on it    :)
[08:34] <SupaYoshi> Heya
[08:34] <majnoon> i think did something wrong setting up virtualhosts
[08:34] <majnoon> majnoon.ga no work BUT majnoon.ga/majnoon.ga DOES
[08:34] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje,  i am so sorry.. i am totallyt new to this.. how do i open syslong or dmesg thro a editior?
[08:34] <majnoon> here my virtualhost http://pastebin.com/AsmwiZNN
[08:34] <delikt_> nobody who had a similar problem or a idea how to fix it?
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> !guidelines | deraffenarsch perhaps you should start here
[08:34] <akhil> cfhowlett: Oh! :)
[08:34] <SupaYoshi> I have a VPS with Ubuntu Server, and am running a few websites on it. The host says I exceed theyre CPU load policy / CPU abuse, according to them the values are as following: We allow a CPU load average of no more than 0.9 constant and bursts up to 2. You regularly exceed this.
[08:34] <akhil> I was wondering if it was to do with the amd GPU
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: nano syslog or vi
[08:35] <hari_> any one there to answer to my question with regard to synaptic manager showing error as i have shown above
[08:35] <SupaYoshi> Should I load less websites on this VPS? or do you think I should look for another VPS host?
[08:35] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: if you have GUI, you can browse to the file with nautilus also
[08:36] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, when i type nano syslog , i get a blank terminal screen with a few controls at the bottom
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: browse to the file manually with nautilus
[08:37] <ayush__> sad life
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> SupaYoshi: perhaps the #ubuntu-server guys can assist you better?
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> ayush__: can we help you?
[08:38] <ayush__> was just testing
[08:38] <ayush__> :)
[08:38] <cage_raphel> lotus .. so what is the path to access the syslog thro nautilus
[08:38] <SupaYoshi> ty
[08:38] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje,  .. so what is the path to access the syslog thro nautilus
[08:38] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: just told you...scroll above
[08:39] <ayush__> So ......
[08:39] <ayush__> am new to this
[08:39] <ayush__> ....
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> !support | ayush__
[08:39] <rahul_> Not able to get help ! All have same issues Dylan__
[08:39] <lotuspsychje> ayush__: you can ask ubuntu questions here to get them solved
[08:39] <cfhowlett> !ask | ayush__,
[08:39] <ayush__> ohh nice
[08:40] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15997345/
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: see you can! give me a min :p
[08:40] <rahul_> anybody installed nvidia drivers on ubuntu 14.04 lts
[08:41] <ayush__> can i update ubuntu 15.04 to 15.10 through usb
[08:41] <ayush__> ?
[08:41] <Ben64> rahul_: ask your actual question
[08:41] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje,  thank u .. well.. i am trying .. and i am not gonna quit!! lol !! :)
[08:41] <cfhowlett> ayush__, you can
[08:41] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: uname -a please?
[08:41] <rahul_> Not able to run nvidia gt 740m drivers on ubuntu 14.04
[08:42] <rahul_> I mean they are installed
[08:42] <rahul_> not able to access my card !
[08:42] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/15997380/
[08:42] <rahul_> My card has optimus technology  which works awesome with windows sadly not with ubuntu !
[08:42] <ayush__> !patience
[08:43] <Cloudblow> Hi, anyone have blackscreen/or solution with nvidia drivers and ubuntu 16.04?
[08:43] <rahul_> Same goes for me Cloudblow
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: ok cant see anything unusual, can you test a liveusb 16.04 and test sound there?
[08:44] <lotuspsychje> rahul_: wich drivers did you test?
[08:44] <Cloudblow> rahul_:  have you find any solution?
[08:44] <Ben64> Cloudblow: what video card(s) do you have
[08:44] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, live usb? i was using 15.10.. i just got an upgrade to 16.04.. and thats when all these issues began
[08:44] <rahul_> No @Cloudblow All I had to do is to :( purge my drivers
[08:44] <Cloudblow> Ben64: nvidia geforce 750m
[08:44] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, do u think its a good idea to downgrade?? if yes, how can we do it ?
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: test a 16.04 liveusb, and test sound there
[08:45] <Ben64> well good luck, i don't do optimus
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: you cant downgrade
[08:45] <rahul_> nvidia-352 @lotus
[08:45] <lotuspsychje> rahul_: tested the -updates also?
[08:45] <rahul_> Yup
[08:45] <Cloudblow> I try yet few version of drivers, 361,364,352,340..
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> rahul_: got nvidia-prime installed?
[08:46] <rahul_> yes  ! that too gave me black screen
[08:46] <lotuspsychje> rahul_: nouveau working?
[08:46] <rahul_> yes !
[08:46] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje, test spund is working fine.. how do i test a live usb ?
[08:47] <lotuspsychje> !usb | cage_raphel
[08:47] <Cloudblow> noeveau for me don't work (maybe I don't know how to user it)
[08:47] <cage_raphel> lotuspsychje,  thanks mate
[08:47] <rahul_> Cloudblow you are using now !
[08:48] <flux242> 16.04 still has python2.7 dependency because of samba. Shame
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> rahul_: tested 16.04 on your card?
[08:48] <rahul_> no not yet !
[08:48] <rahul_> Cloudblow did
[08:48] <lotuspsychje> rahul_: did it work before on 14.04?
[08:48] <kim__> hello
[08:48] <rahul_> no never worked for me !
[08:48] <serveradmin> hey any one hear is a game dev
[08:49] <lotuspsychje> rahul_: if you tested all nvidia drivers, perhaps file a bug or try 16.04?
[08:49] <rahul_> OK :) Thanks !
[08:52] <Cloudblow> I read few people saying this bug is fixed with a sync pack to kernel linux 4.5, it is true?
[08:52] <Ben64> probably not
[08:53] <ikonia> sync pack to kernel ?
[08:53] <grvrulz> identify PIKACHU
[08:53] <cfhowlett> grvrulz, in the freenode tab not here please
[08:54] <grvrulz> Sorry, Polari is behaving a bit starange.
[08:54] <sits> Are the xenial release notes still being updated?
[08:58] <quaker_> hi everyone
[08:58] <mcphail> On 16.04 desktop, can snaps only be installed locally (using "snap install blah") rather than from the store (using "snappy install blah")? I'd rather do the latter, for updates etc
[09:02] <delikt_> hi guys :) sometimes if i start a game (sometimes randomly) my mouse (razer naga epic) stucks - if i typing xsetpointer -l | grep Pointer in the terminal my mouse isnt there anymore... had anyone a idea why my mouse randomly get unplugged?
[09:03] <nomic> delikt_  post message on ubuntu forums http://ubuntuforums.org/
[09:03] <nomic> this place isn't always that busy
[09:08] <lukas1321> hello guys :) does ubuntu 16.04 support retina macbook pros?
[09:09] <Desu> lukas1321: to some extent, yes
[09:09] <lotuspsychje> lukas1321: you could try a liveusb
[09:10] <Desu> macbooks tend to be a giant pain though
[09:11] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: can snapcraft and snapcraft-examples help you?
[09:15] <Desu> delikt_: laptop?
[09:16] <delikt_> Desu, nope desktop with an amd card - i started LoL a minute ago and it stuck again
[09:17] <delikt_> Linux delikt-M5810 4.4.0-21-generic #37-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 18 18:33:37 UTC 2016 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[09:17] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: I'm more interested in installing snaps than making them. I'd really like to have an owncloud snap which was kept up to date from the store
[09:18] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: ah ok, not really sure yet how it all works :p
[09:18] <delikt_> Desu, i had the problem also in 14.04 - i switched to Linux Mint 17.x and there i dont had the problem
[09:20] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: it'll be nice when it does work or is documented :)
[09:20] <delikt_> haha... pressed the start button now in LoL again stuck
[09:22] <delikt_> unplug the mouse and plugin fix this but not always :P
[09:24] <thinky> hi there
[09:25] <EriC^^> hello
[09:25] <thinky> i installed ubuntu 16.04 but gnome classic fallback seems not working good
[09:25] <thinky> it doesnt show icons when i drag to desktop. how can i fix that?
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: did you check man snap?
[09:26] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: yes - the man page is a real mess, and only seems to cover local installs. Snappy core uses "snappy" instead of "snap" to install from the store. The "snappy" package on Ubuntu Desktop seems to be a media player
[09:26] <thinky> and i cannot install google chrome. it says this software may contain non free components
[09:26] <firsm> hi, where can find the minimal CD with the alternate installer for 16.04?
[09:27] <cfhowlett> thinky, your choice
[09:27] <thinky> what s my choice?
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: and the installed snap packages work on both unity7 and 8?
[09:27] <DJones> firsm: Thats not existed for a few years, I think the only way is to use the minimal iso and then add the packages you want
[09:27] <cfhowlett> install chrome or not, thinky
[09:27] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: they should do, but you have the security issues of X under Unity7
[09:27] <thinky> cfhowlett: it doesnt install. i wanna install but 16.06 software center doesnt install it
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: yeah readed that this morning
[09:28] <thinky> 16.04
[09:28] <firsm> DJones: okay, thanks
[09:29] <hep7> i get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/15998240/
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: so whats the advantage of installing a package the snap way instead of unity8's app store?
[09:29] <ikonia> hep7: you're launching nautlus as root - but you have a userspace mount
[09:29] <hep7> ikonia: not sure what that means
[09:30] <ikonia> hep7: the whole point of a userspace mount is it's for your user only, so launching it as root wont be able to "interact" with that mount
[09:30] <hep7> ikonia: hidden files don't "hide"
[09:30] <thinky> why doesnt it show terminal icon on desktop when i drag to desktop?
[09:30] <ikonia> hep7: that error has nothing to do with that
[09:31] <hep7> ikonia: yesterday someone suggested that i should run it from command line and see what errors i would get
[09:31] <mcphail> lotuspsychje: well, I'm not running unity8...
[09:31] <ikonia> hep7: I guess the first question is "why are you running it with sudo"
[09:31] <dp_> \quit
[09:31] <hep7> ikonia: well i didn't get any errors runing wihout sudo
[09:32] <lotuspsychje> mcphail: ok
[09:32] <EriC^^> hep7: gksu is for sudo + gui apps
[09:32] <ikonia> hep7: sudo changes a lot of things - why are you running it with sudo ?
[09:32] <EriC^^> gksu nautilus
[09:32] <SP33D> Hello my Frinds big ALERT!! I upgraded 2 boxes 1 without fails and the secund is in accessable via ssh but i got a console that works
[09:32] <ikonia> EriC^^: thats all changed now with policy kit, still not a good solution though
[09:32] <hep7> ikonia: just answered you
[09:32] <ice9> I upgraded from 15.10 to 16.04, sometimes audio devices disappear from the sound settings, I have reinstalled alsamixer alsautils and unity-desktop but it is still happening;  is there anything I should do?
[09:32] <SP33D> so the main problem is even with ssh -vvvvv i dont know why i have no access any more and that with key and public auth
[09:33] <ikonia> hep7: no, you didn't you said you don't get any errors without sudo - that doesn't explain why you are running with sudio
[09:33] <hep7> ikonia: no one knows here what is the problem
[09:33] <ikonia> sudo
[09:33] <ikonia> hep7: you have no idea if people know or not, you've just posted a random error message that is mostly caused by the use of sudo
[09:33] <hep7> ikonia: i don't know running with sudo gave the errors
[09:33] <SP33D> i checked via console the .ssh/authoirized_keys file and all and all looks ok did reset password via console but still no ssh access
[09:33] <ikonia> hep7: WHY are you running it with sudo
[09:34] <hep7> ikonia: i have been asking this question more or less 5 times now
[09:34] <ikonia> hep7: and yet you're still not telling me why you are running it with sudo
[09:34] <ikonia> SP33D: what does the security log on the server show
[09:34] <hep7> ikonia: is that important ?
[09:34] <ikonia> hep7: yes, very
[09:34] <hep7> ikonia: i just did, that is it
[09:34] <ikonia> hep7: actually - I'm not interested any more, it shouldn't be this much effort to help someone
[09:35] <cfhowlett> hep7, Ms Cleo isn't here anymore.  you don't answer questions to diagnose problems, you don't get answers to problems
[09:35] <hep7> cfhowlett: who is cleo?
[09:36] <thinky> http://imgur.com/q2gOtp7
[09:36] <hep7> tgm4883: you are here?
[09:37] <hep7> who is the boss here?
[09:37] <cfhowlett> thinky, not there prevents you from installing.  it's just advisory
[09:37] <hep7> or manager
[09:37] <thinky> cant install google chrome
[09:37] <thinky> cfhowlett: i click on install but it doesnt install
[09:37] <ikonia> hep7: I'm an operator
[09:37] <quench> hmmm, what the frig? > www.zdnet.com/article/linux-expert-matthew-garrett-ubuntu-16-04s-new-snap-format-is-a-security-risk
[09:37] <ikonia> hep7: you can join #ubuntu-ops if you want to talk to the team
[09:38] <cfhowlett> thinky, OK.  try the command line option so we can capture the error: shutdown the software center.  then:     sudo apt install google-chrome-stable.
[09:38] <vooze> Trying to run screenfetch from 16.04 i get the follow error: (process:31528): dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create file '/home/vooze/.cache/dconf/user': Permission denied.  dconf will not work properly. -- What could cause this?
[09:38] <hep7> ikonia: ok, people are more "qualified" there?
[09:38] <ikonia> hep7: in what respected qualified ?
[09:38] <ikonia> hep7: #ubuntu-ops is for the team who run the channel
[09:38] <hep7> ikonia: i just want my problem solved
[09:38] <ikonia> hep7: your attitude is what's stopping that,
[09:39] <hep7> ikonia: i disagree
[09:39] <hep7> ikonia: i don't think you read what i said above
[09:39] <ikonia> hep7: well, I was going to help you, then I stopped, so it's pretty hard to disagree
[09:39] <thinky> cfhowlett: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package google-chrome-stable
[09:39] <ikonia> vooze: look at the permissions on that directory
[09:39] <hep7> ikonia: yes am aware there are lots of primadonnas here
[09:40] <cfhowlett> thinky do this: apt-cache policy google-chrome-stable | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:40] <ikonia> hep7: and this is the attitude I'm talking about
[09:40] <cfhowlett> that will return a url. paste the url here
[09:40] <thinky> Use netcat.
[09:41] <hep7> ikonia: don't you see the irony?!
[09:41] <SP33D> not allowed because not listed in AllowUsers
[09:41] <hep7> ikonia: ok back to the problem
[09:41] <thinky> cfhowlett: it returned with ` Use netcat`
[09:41] <ikonia> hep7: nope, if you want help, ask a clear question and work with people to work through the problem,
[09:41] <SP33D> thats the fail @ikonia
[09:41] <ikonia> hep7: you may get a better response that way
[09:41] <ikonia> SP33D: what is ?
[09:41] <hep7> ikonia: my hidden files show up every time i relaunch nautilus
[09:42] <SP33D> how can that be the auth.log tells me on the upgraded box that root is now "not allowed because not listed in AllowUsers"
[09:42] <ikonia> hep7: I'm not interested in your problem
[09:42] <vooze> ikonia: drwx------ 51 vooze vooze   4096 Apr 22 18:40 .cache/ - should it be something else?
[09:42] <SP33D> befor it worked
[09:42] <zjh> gyihijijisnjjjhuujubuigivyhvhvhvdhvdyhbu
[09:42] <zjh> jhbjb
[09:42] <ikonia> SP33D: what is the EXACT command you are using to ssh
[09:42] <zjh> vgg
[09:42] <cfhowlett> thinky, OK, this then:   more /etc/apt/sources.list | grep partner.
[09:42] <ikonia> SP33D: and please, the exact command
[09:42] <hep7> ikonia: then you should not have responded in the first place
[09:42] <SP33D> ssh root@host
[09:42] <ikonia> hep7: I was interested at that time and willing to help
[09:42] <ikonia> SP33D: root is not enabled on ubuntu
[09:42] <zjh> ghfgcjgcghggxvhg
[09:42] <ikonia> zjh: stop that please
[09:42] <SP33D> using key in config
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> zjh: stop that please
[09:42] <thinky> cfhowlett: ## 'partner' repository. # deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu xenial partner # deb-src http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu xenial partner
[09:43] <SP33D> it was enabled on ubuntu server install
[09:43] <ikonia> SP33D: a.) root is disabled as a user b.) root login for ssh is disabled by default
[09:43] <zjh> sorry, my son is typing
[09:43] <cfhowlett> thinky, OK you do have the partner repos enabled
[09:43] <hep7> ikonia: i don't think you would know the answer anyway, but thanks.
[09:43] <cfhowlett> zjh, false.  you  have done this before.  knock it off.
[09:43] <ikonia> SP33D: ok - so what is the auth log currently showing
[09:43] <thinky> again sudo apt-get install google-chrome-stable ?
[09:43] <cfhowlett> thinky, wait
[09:43] <ikonia> hep7: I didn't know the answer, thats why I wanted to know the info I was asking for to work it through to solution
[09:43] <SP33D> that user root is noit in allowedusers
[09:43] <thinky> ok
[09:43] <ikonia> SP33D: ok - so what does your ssh server config show ?
[09:44] <ikonia> is root in the allowed list ?
[09:44] <SP33D> i will fix that with editing the ssh config but the do release upgrade dont told me it changed that
[09:44] <ikonia> SP33D: it's not going to list every change it makes
[09:44] <SP33D> thats the amazing many people will get locked out
[09:44] <hep7> anyone else could answer my question?
[09:44] <cfhowlett> thinky, try that yes and note errors
[09:44] <ikonia> SP33D: no they won't, as you shouldn't be ssh'ing as root
[09:44] <thinky> cfhowlett: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package google-chrome-stable
[09:44] <SP33D> Many providers install ubuntu with user root
[09:45] <cfhowlett> thinky, lsb_release -d
[09:45] <SP33D> and even my private users with sodo rights are not allowed by same error not allowed because not listed in AllowUsers
[09:45] <ikonia> SP33D: right - and they will support it for you, or you should create non-privileged users
[09:45] <SP33D> i cant log in even with the none previliged user anymore
[09:45] <thinky> cfhowlett: Description:	Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[09:45] <ikonia> SP33D: what, so non-privileged users can't login either
[09:45] <SP33D> but thx i found the fail
[09:45] <ikonia> SP33D: what is the exact issue amd what have you found
[09:46] <SP33D> i need to fix the sshd config after upgrade
[09:46] <ikonia> SP33D: that won't stop non-privileged users
[09:46] <ikonia> SP33D: that is something different,
[09:46] <xtr33> Hi guys, does anyone have experience with connecting ps4 controller to gnome 10.04 over bluetooth?
[09:46] <SP33D> Upgrade destroys user permissions
[09:46] <ikonia> SP33D: no it doesn't
[09:46] <ikonia> SP33D: what user permissions has it destroyed
[09:46] <SP33D> it did belive me
[09:46] <ikonia> SP33D: what user permissions has it destroyed
[09:46] <Ben64> xtr33: 10.04 is dead
[09:47] <SP33D> the unpriviliged sudo user cant login with password any more even if it is right because not allowed in sshd config not allowed because not listed in AllowUsers rule any more
[09:47] <xtr33> ben64: what do you mean by dead?
[09:47] <MonkeyDust> xtr33  upgrade first, then ask again
[09:47] <ikonia> SP33D: what permissions has it changed
[09:47] <Ben64> xtr33: no longer supported. it has ceased to be
[09:47] <cfhowlett> !eol | Extreme
[09:47] <SP33D> now need to readd unpriviliged user and root again to the sshd config
[09:47] <SP33D> it has rewriten without asking sshd.conf
[09:48] <ikonia> there is no such file as sshd.conf
[09:48] <xtr33> Sorry, 16.04 LTS 64-bit
[09:48] <ikonia> SP33D: exactly what filel are you looking at (full path)
[09:48] <SP33D> wait i get you the exact file but i know you know the conf file your self better
[09:48] <thinky> is that for me cfhowlett ?
[09:48] <xtr33> I have that installed Ben64
[09:48] <ikonia> SP33D: can you please pastebin /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[09:48] <ikonia> SP33D: lets have a look at what is there now please
[09:49] <cfhowlett> thinky, no. google-chrome-stable is in the main repository and should work with no issue.  No idea why it is failing you.
[09:49] <Gard> irc.rizon.net
[09:49] <xtr33> ben64:  I have 16.04 installed.  Would like to use p34 controller over bluetooth can you help?
[09:50] <Ben64> xtr33: pair it, done
[09:50] <xtr33> *ps4
[09:50] <mlvmhn> how do i install Lubuntu using terminal?
[09:50] <ikonia> mlvmhn: using terminal ?
[09:50] <cfhowlett> mlvmhn, sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop
[09:50] <ikonia> ahh the desktop
[09:51] <SP33D> hmmm /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[09:51] <ikonia> SP33D: please pastebin that file
[09:51] <SP33D> is the file i think thats causing that
[09:51] <ikonia> lets take a look at it
[09:51] <mlvmhn> yes, i am installing Ubuntu 16.04 on my laptop
[09:52] <ikonia> mlvmhn: why not install lubuntu if you want the lubuntu desktop
[09:52] <mlvmhn> ikonia: i want to test the performance on my laptop first
[09:52] <thinky> cfhowlett:  when i make sudo apt-get update see this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/15998739/
[09:52] <SP33D> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ArfKjhEW/
[09:53] <thinky> i think there are some errors
[09:53] <thinky> fatal errors
[09:53] <thinky> because when i restarted pc it warned me to report due to some errors
[09:53] <cfhowlett> thinky  ... *** NOW *** you tell us this?!
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> thinky  i guess they are appArmor errors
[09:53] <ikonia> SP33D: have you modified that file
[09:54] <ikonia> thinky: I warned you before about not sharing information
[09:54] <ikonia> thinky: this will be the final warning you get about wasting peoples time not giving the full information
[09:54] <cfhowlett> thinky, OK, you have some issues that have nothing to do with chrome.  fix the issues first
[09:54] <SP33D> i have not modifyed it but it is the standrt file
[09:54] <thinky> cfhowlett: sorry i didnt think it s related with google chrome
[09:54] <SP33D> so nothing private is in
[09:54] <ikonia> SP33D: interesting two PermitRoot entries
[09:54] <ikonia> SP33D: there is nothing in that file that would stop non-privileged users from logging in
[09:54] <thinky> ikonia: look  i dont hide anything !
[09:54] <xtr33> ben64:  I have enabled bluetooth, set controller to pair mode, it picks up wireless controller but says not set up because it wants a pin which I can't find online
[09:54] <ikonia> SP33D: and to be honest - it should allow root
[09:54] <thinky> stop this
[09:55] <ikonia> thinky: you did not tell people about the fatal errors
[09:55] <SP33D> ikonia i think i need to add explicit AllowUsers root now
[09:55] <ikonia> SP33D: you really shouldn't
[09:55] <thinky> ikonia: look i dont keep that secret as state confidental
[09:55] <thinky> stop this warning to me
[09:55] <Ben64> xtr33: have you tried 0000
[09:55] <thinky> it just happened after restart
[09:55] <cfhowlett> thinky, calm down.
[09:55] <SP33D> maybe diffrent with new sshd version
[09:55] <xtr33> yes
[09:55] <cfhowlett> and move on, thinky
[09:55] <ikonia> thinky: you did not give the info about the fatal errors - you let someone just try to help you wihtout sharing
[09:55] <SP33D> i dont understand it myself
[09:55] <thinky> thx cfhowlett
[09:55] <akik> thinky: the 32-bit version of chrome was discontinued. do you have the 32-bit installation?
[09:56] <ikonia> thinky: I've asked you and warned you about this
[09:56] <thinky> ikonia: stop it !
[09:56] <SP33D> but the error is clear not in AllowUsers means not in AllowUsers and there is no AllowUsers
[09:56] <thinky> i dont know what s related with the problems i am not ubuntu specialist
[09:56] <xtr33> Ben64, I have tried 0000 00000 1234 12345, it requires a pin won't accept no pin
[09:56] <vooze> Trying to run screenfetch from 16.04 i get the follow error: (process:31528): dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create file '/home/vooze/.cache/dconf/user': Permission denied.  dconf will not work properly. -- What could cause this? - I checked my laptop where its working and it has all the same permissions.
[09:56] <ikonia> vooze: ok - so whats the permissions on that directory where it is trying to create
[09:56] <Ben64> xtr33: google says it's 0000
[09:57] <xtr33> hmm, it has actually now connected
[09:57] <vooze> ikonia: it is owned by root. Going into the the folder as root and looking at the user file it looks all the same.
[09:58] <ikonia> vooze: no file in your home directory should be owned by root - change it
[09:58] <xtr33> Ben64, thank you I shall try to use it in a game to see if its working, hopefully that's all I need to do
[09:59] <guest-4ZVU48> hej
[10:00] <vooze> ikonia: I just tried that, and no more erors now, but the script screenfetch does not show all information, so something is still wrong :/ - But like I said, on my laptop also on 16.04 it works just fine with root
[10:01] <guest-4ZVU48> siemka
[10:01] <ikonia> vooze: shoudn't be using root
[10:01] <Charlatan> Hello.
[10:02] <guest-4ZVU48> hello
[10:02] <Charlatan> Hey there, guest.
[10:02] <thinky> back
[10:02] <Charlatan> Nobody cares, thinky :)
[10:02] <thinky> cfhowlett: sorry i forgot to mention about the error i faced
[10:02] <Wulf> Charlatan: exactly.
[10:02] <thinky> Charlatan: i know :p
[10:02] <Charlatan> You faced an error?
[10:03] <thinky> yes
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> !behelpful | Charlatan
[10:03] <thinky> after restart it wanted me to report
[10:03] <thinky> i dont know error details
[10:03] <Charlatan> lotus please get off my fucking back.
[10:03] <Charlatan> Thanks.
[10:03] <Charlatan> I appreciate it.
[10:04] <lotuspsychje> Charlatan: please dont use that kind of language here
[10:04] <cfhowlett> Charlatan, no profanity needed or allowed in this channel.  consult the guidelines if you have questions
[10:04] <cfhowlett> !guidelines
[10:04] <Charlatan> Okay, where should I use it?
[10:04] <thinky> is there a way to refresh my ubuntu installation? and fix possible errors?
[10:04] <Charlatan> I dunno, thinky. Never used ubuntu. It's a bit ugly.
[10:05] <Charlatan> Plus you can't run any decent games on it. I'm what you might call a gamer 4 lyfe.
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> Charlatan  sure you want to be here?
[10:05] <thinky> lol Charlatan why do u think so?
[10:05] <cfhowlett> Charlatan, please entertain yourself by trolling in a different channel
[10:05] <Charlatan> thinky: perhaps you disagree?
[10:05] <thinky> it is different and beautiful to me
[10:05] <xtr33> Plenty of good games for linux
[10:05] <thinky> Charlatan: yes i understand that for some ppl it looks ugly
[10:05] <Wulf> Charlatan: gamer for life? I work for a living, is that something similar?
[10:06] <Charlatan> My laptop is like 9 years old.
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> !discuss
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> Charlatan  you're not in the right channel for that kind of conversation
[10:06] <Charlatan> Wulf: I guess that makes you a self-described worker for life.
[10:06] <Charlatan> Congrats?
[10:06] <Charlatan> MonkeyDust: can you elaborate?
[10:06] <Charlatan> Is this only for support?
[10:06] <lotuspsychje> ikonia: more work for you ^
[10:06] <MonkeyDust> !ot | Charlatan
[10:06] <cfhowlett> Charlatan, as stated in the  channel topic, yes this is the support channel
[10:07] <Charlatan> Are the other channels also busyish?
[10:07] <vooze> ikonia: weird, I just downloaded screenfetch from github, ran it with ./screenfetch-dev and after that, the orignal screenfetch worked again. Stange :)
[10:07] <MonkeyDust> Charlatan  this channel focusses on support, not on 'busy conversation'
[10:08] <Charlatan> But I mean if I were to switch to ot, would it be dead? That'd be lame.
[10:08] <Xard> On 16.04 I have a usb3 drive which shuts down when "removed safely" but immediately after that powers on and remounts everything
[10:08] <Charlatan> I can see you are too stupid to understand.
[10:08] <Charlatan> LOL UBUNTU IS FOR VIRGINS LOL!
[10:08] <Wulf> Charlatan: /msg alis list * -min 1000
[10:09] <yogeshrt> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu on This page we should change name from "Startup Disk Creator" to "usb-creator-gtk"
[10:09] <MonkeyDust> Charlatan  go away
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> !ops | Charlatan trolling
[10:09] <cfhowlett> thinky, assuming 1. this is fixable without reinstalling and 2. the problem is in your source list  Method 1   http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-the-ubuntu-gpg-error-badsig.html
[10:09] <Xard> and then I have another usb3 drive where the "safely remove" works just fine
[10:10] <thinky> cfhowlett: do u think it is because of gnome classic fallback?
[10:10] <cfhowlett> thinky no idea
[10:10] <cfhowlett> but the DE doesn't matter to the sources and repos so ... I'd guess not
[10:13] <Xard> for both drives i'm using the same usb3 port
[10:14] <thinky> cfhowlett: Fetched 35.6 MB in 1min 36s (367 kB/s)                                          AppStream cache update completed, but some metadata was ignored due to errors. Reading package lists... Done
[10:15] <cfhowlett> OK try to install chrome, thinky
[10:15] <thinky> Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package google-chrome-stable
[10:15] <thinky> no luck
[10:15] <thinky> same error
[10:15] <cfhowlett> thinky, are you on 32 bit ubuntu?
[10:16] <thinky> no
[10:16] <thinky> 64bit
[10:16] <cfhowlett> thinky, over my head then.  sorry.
[10:16] <thinky> :S
[10:16] <thinky> i think 16.04 is not stable yet
[10:17] <thinky> should i re-install ?
[10:17] <cfhowlett> try a different mirror first, thinky
[10:17] <thinky> brb