[17:15] <Guest49754>  sudo apt-get upgradesudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgradesudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgradesudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgradesudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgradesudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgradesudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgradesudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgradesudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgradesudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgradesudo apt-get up
[17:15] <themhz> usr13, it converts mp3 to audio cd?
[17:16] <hilo> hello, I am trying to echo a line of text into a file. I used this command: echo "        passwd chat = *Enter\\snew\\s*\\spassword:* %n\\n *Retype\\snew\\s*\\spassword:* %n\\n *password\\supdated\\ssuccessfully* ."
[17:16] <usr13> themhz: I've always done it via CLI
[17:16] <diverdude> Hello, i have followed this giude: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/chroot-users-with-openssh-an-easier-way-to-confine-users-to-their-home-directories/229 to setup ftp. It works great, however the user i have set up cannot seem to create files or directories...permission denied. Directory is owned by root and permissions is set to 755. If i change the directory-ownership using chmod to the user i do ftp with i cannot login, and if i do chmod -R 7
[17:16] <diverdude> 77 i also cannot log in. How do i make the user be able to create directories via ftp then?
[17:16] <usr13> themhz: for i in *.mp3; do mpg123 -w `basename $i .mp3`.wav $i; done
[17:16] <hilo> However, the newline characters aren't escaped and it is broken into multiple lines...
[17:16] <hilo> How can I resolve this so that the line prints out as one single line
[17:17] <themhz> usr13,  and then you copy the wav files to the cd?
[17:17] <tripelb> MonkeyDust: I cannot read the output. Display goes black in the part of terminal where I typed. + I'll have to find somewhere to download 12.04 because I don't have internet here. I am talking thru my phone. Ca
[17:17] <themhz> usr13,  or this command will do both automatically ?
[17:17] <usr13> themhz: Just domp the ones you want to put on a CD into a directory by themselves, run the above command and burn the resulting .wav files to CD
[17:17] <jrib> hilo: -e
[17:17] <jrib> hilo: wait, what?  What do you want to do exactly?
[17:18] <themhz> usr13, ok great, thanx
[17:18] <usr13> themhz: NP
[17:18] <blkadder> diverdude: Do you have a subdirectory created off of the main directory owned by the user(s)?
[17:18] <llutz> themhz: if you want a GUI, k3b and brasero should burn audio-cds from mp3/ogg
[17:18] <tripelb> MonkeyDust: can you tell me how to drop to a text terminal and do that? BTW I installed 11.04 haha I also have 9.04 and 6.1 (first Ubuntu I installed.)
[17:19] <usr13> themhz_away: Yea, I think llutz is correct.  The popular CD burning softwares we have now will do that stuff automagically....
[17:19] <vitimiti> o/
[17:19] <hilo> jrib, append this line into a config file. It is for a script that sets up samba. passwd chat = *Enter\snew\s*\spassword:* %n *Retype\snew\s*\spassword:* %n *password\supdated\ssuccessfully* .
[17:19] <jrib> hilo: and what's the problem?
[17:20] <nabblet> usr13, did as the link said - rebooted - nothing... i am installing package firmwar-b43-installer
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> tripelb  do what, you mean?
[17:20] <NielsMkn> hello
[17:20] <hilo> jrib, I made all the instances of "\" in that line "\\" to make the \ just output, but \\n still makes a new line
[17:20] <jrib> hilo: try -E
[17:20] <hilo> jrib, e or E?
[17:20] <usr13> nabblet: Ok good luck, (But I'm not sure b43 is right for the bcm5906 )
[17:21] <jrib> hilo: read the man page and see :)  But, no, -E.
[17:21] <NielsMkn> I'm having a slight issue with video playback using vlc, the audio lags behind the video after awhile. Is this because of the display driver?
[17:21] <nabblet> usr13, me neither but it's my best bet
[17:21] <usr13> nabblet: Are you sure there's not a switch or something that is turned off?  (Or bios setting...?)
[17:22] <nabblet> usr13, ok, i am going for the firmware-b43-lppy-installer - was told to do so after the normal installer aborted
[17:22] <tripelb> MonkeyDust: since the GUI does not work, is there a key-combo I can use to go to a CLI text screen and then follow your directions. (BTW is the first letter an L or an I (eye)?)
[17:22] <diverdude> blkadder, ahh yes that did it :) thx
[17:22] <nabblet> usr13, oh! iwconfig now gives me wlan0 :)
[17:22] <hilo> jrib, ty
[17:22] <usr13> nabblet: The normal install more-than-likely aborted because you don't have a bcm43xx chip.
[17:23] <usr13> nabblet: Awesome.
[17:23] <NielsMkn> and which one is better? open-source or the proprietary one?
[17:23] <usr13> nabblet: Looks like you got it.
[17:23] <usr13> nabblet: You didn't look after you rebooted?
[17:23] <stuffthatspins> does anyone have experience with multiple IPs on same eth?
[17:24] <usr13> stuffthatspins: Well, with alias yse
[17:24] <usr13> *yes
[17:24] <tripelb> MonkeyDust: ah I clicked and it reh
[17:24] <stuffthatspins> i upgrade my server from 10.0.4 to 12.0.4 yesterday and lost additional aliases...
[17:24] <hilo> jrib, why does echo without the e work for most things and not others. According to the man pages, the default is -E which ignores the \ escape, yet \n characters are interpreted as newlines
[17:24] <nabblet> usr13, i looked
[17:24] <jrib> hilo: I don't know
[17:24] <nabblet> usr13, hm... i had to do sudo ifconfig wlan0 up
[17:24] <MonkeyDust> tripelb  there's ctrl-alt F1, but your ubuntu is not supported, upgrade first
[17:25] <nabblet> usr13, now i see it with ifconfig and iwconfig, but wicd doesn't use it :(
[17:25] <tripelb> MonkeyDust: ah I clicked and it revealed but I missed the space before the dash and now it won't react. I need text not GUI please.
[17:26] <jrib> hilo: in fact if you do /bin/echo, /n won't be interpreted.  But for some reason the shell built-in does
[17:26] <jrib> \n even
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> tripelb  your ubuntu version is not supported, please upgrade first
[17:26] <nabblet> usr13, ok, sudo iwlist wlan0 scan gives me results - the card works. this is the link that helped me most https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[17:26] <nabblet> usr13, but i don't understand why wicd can not access it :/
[17:27] <jrib> hilo: http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/commands/builtin/echo these guys actually recommend using printf instead.  Guess it depends on your needs
[17:27] <tripelb> I have to find a place to download it. :(  the library won't let me.  This seems like "
[17:27] <nabblet> usr13, problem solved: i had to set in wicd's preferences to use wlan0 as wireless card
[17:28] <usr13> stuffthatspins: You need to put the commands into a script somewhere so that it gets created each time you reboot, like a  firewall script, something like ifconfig eth0:0 10.x.x.x up
[17:28] <usr13> nabblet: Well, there you go.
[17:29] <tripelb> I have to find a place to download it. :(  the library won't let me.  This seems like " if you have to ask you can't afford it"  I have terminal in text now. BTW I ran the computer through a dell hardware scan, ram and all and it passed perfectly.
[17:29] <usr13> stuffthatspins: Oh, I see you did the distribution upgrade.  Hummm. shouldn't have happened, but you can fix it.
[17:30] <usr13> stuffthatspins: Did you have a firewall script?
[17:30] <stuffthatspins> thx use 13…  yeh. it shouldn't have. no firewall
[17:30] <nabblet> usr13, thank you for your support - i think my card is a low-power card (that's what was suggested by the aborted install) so it is not mentioned separatly, because it might be very similar to a normal card...
[17:30] <nabblet> is there some1 who can modify https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx ?
[17:31] <tripelb> MonkeyDust: the output of that command is Ubuntu 11.04 (duh, good to double check I suppose)
[17:32] <usr13> stuffthatspins: You didn't have a script someplace, like in   /etc/network/if-up.d/  ?
[17:32] <usr13> stuffthatspins: You had to have had something somewhere that created the alias's after each reboot.
[17:33] <stuffthatspins> usr13: inside of interfaces
[17:33] <Mars___> Hi there! I own a system76 laptop (Mode: Panp5) running Ubuntu 11.04. As of this morning, the laptop spontaneously shut off on me, and when I go to turn it on again, I am able to make it run for a minute or two before spontaneously shutting off again. Booting it again shortly after makes the system beep. I am unsure of what causes this problem.
[17:33] <usr13> stuffthatspins: Oh. ok
[17:33] <usr13> stuffthatspins: Well, just re-do it.
[17:33] <lhavelund> Mars___: Sounds like it could be a temperature issue to me.
[17:34] <stuffthatspins> i know. royk told me i have a deprecated call.
[17:34] <lhavelund> Definitely sounds like a hardware problem rather than a software one.
[17:34] <usr13> Mars___: Yea, check to see if the fan runs
[17:34] <tripelb> Can anyone support me on 11.04 which will not display the GUI properly. Hardware fine (per dell tests). Won't support unity ( Ubuntu tells me) won't support gnome (that's what I see, GUI does not display, keeps vanishing.) I am at a text CLI now. [I don't have internet nor a copy of 12.04 but I have copy of the 2009 and 2006 if that matters.]
[17:34] <usr13> Mars___: May just need a good cleaning.
[17:35] <nabblet> tripelb, i am no expert - what happens when you use the command startx
[17:35] <tripelb> LCD screen
[17:35] <usr13> !modeset | tripelb
[17:35] <Mars___> user82: The fan certainly runs, and lhavelund, I am positive that the system is not overheating. I came back early this morning to find the system completely cooled down. I booted it again to find that it only works for a short time before shutting down again.
[17:35] <usr13> !nomodeset | tripelb
[17:36] <usr13> (just guessing   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^)
[17:36] <Mars___> The system beeping worries me the most however because I have never seen it do this in all my years of owning the system.
[17:36] <tripelb> What is the command to see how much ram I have?
[17:36] <Mars___> I would provide a memtest86+ if I could, but the system fails even through that.
[17:37] <usr13> Mars___: Try a bootable CD or USB
[17:37] <usr13> Mars___: But sounds a whole lot like a hardware problem.
[17:38] <SierraAR> I'm wanting to create a 250GB partition, then install windows xp on it. I have ubuntu 12.04 already installed, and gparted is saying that if I resize/move the existing partition it can make ubutnu fail to boot
[17:38] <SierraAR> Ubuntu*
[17:38] <SierraAR> Any google search results seem to be for existing windows 7 installs, or a blank hard drive
[17:38] <usr13> SierraAR: Probably because there is data in the way
[17:38] <Mars___> Yeah, that was my first guess, usr13.
[17:38] <Mars___> I'll probably have to look into it..
[17:38] <Mars___> Could the video driver be running bad? Is that a consideration?
[17:39] <stuffthatspins> usr13, does this look right to you?
[17:39] <stuffthatspins> http://primaxstudio.com/interfaces
[17:39] <usr13> Mars___: I doubt it.
[17:39] <stuffthatspins> this was working in 10.0.4 but 12.0.04 only the main ip works.
[17:40] <SierraAR> usr13, Is there a guide on creating a new partition to install windows on with an existing ubuntu install?
[17:41] <usr13> stuffthatspins: Yea, looks ok to me.  Is that what you had already?
[17:41] <djono> i ran clam tk and found 16 threats is there a way i can get more info on the threats
[17:41] <tripelb> I  see no output but mine. am ihere?
[17:41] <stuffthatspins> yes. but RoyK says it's deprecated. I should use. up ip addr add <IP_ADDRESS>/25 dev eth0
[17:43] <stuffthatspins> but that just adds at runtime. this config file worked before… now i have no extra IPs except the first
[17:43] <Mars___> usr13: Well, I'm certain this could be a hardware issue because I tried booting it again, but this time it started beeping right before the system shut off. I was in the System Utilities BIOS menu.
[17:43] <meet> X-Sleepy-X: ya .. i was able to setup printing in 11.10 but here it is not showing any printers when i put the ipaddress
[17:44] <fego> SierraAR: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[17:44] <Mars___> usr13: Would you be familiar in the subject of the system beeping (Performing console beeps is my best guess) and what it means?
[17:44] <Azmuth> pls help my ubuntu always stuck at restartt/hutdown screen...
[17:44] <usr13> stuffthatspins: I don't know, maybe Royk was correct.  Need to check around a bit I guess.
[17:44] <Azmuth> shutdown lol
[17:44] <fego> you can refer the section "Installing Windows After Ubuntu". SierraAR
[17:45] <usr13> Mars___: Depends on the bios, but many of them are pretty similiar.  Could be that the memory chip(s) just need to be re-seated.
[17:46] <Azmuth> any way to fix my issue ?
[17:46] <fego> and there are some external links available on the bottom of the page that might be helpful
[17:46] <tripelb> What is the command to see how much ram I have?
[17:46] <usr13> stuffthatspins: man interfaces
[17:47] <stuffthatspins> usr13: thanks...
[17:49] <usr13> stuffthatspins: Should be in a changelog someplace
[17:49] <Mars___> usr13: I will try re-seating my memory chip then.
[17:49] <SierraAR> Thanks fego
[17:51] <jhutchins> tripelb: free
[17:51] <jhutchins> tripelb: You can use top as well.
[17:52] <morfeo_81> hi!! how can search position of library intstalled
[17:53] <ubuntu-tester> morfeo_81: locate?
[17:53] <Mars___> usr13: So far so good it seems...
[17:53] <stuffthatspins> thanks usr13:
[17:54] <usr13> stuffthatspins: Did you find anything?  (I didn't)
[17:54] <usr13> Mars___: Is it booting up?
[17:56] <Mars___> Yeah, it's booting up normally it seems.
[17:56] <Mars___> Just waiting for that crash to happen. :P
[17:57] <Mars___> AAAND there it is
[17:58] <Mars___> usr13: The system booted normally, however I'm only able to use it for about 1~3 minutes at most before it spontaneously turns off as if it was a Hard Reset.
[17:58] <tripelb> jhutchins: thanks. I haven't been on Ubuntu for over a year and I forgot.
[17:59] <Vivekananda> face a weird problem although I somewhat know what the cause is. My /home suddenly reports disk full although disk usage analyzer adds up to a much lower value. Then I run fsck on boot and things go back to showing 1.5 gigs free. I know my hard drive is failing but what can I do otherwise ??
[17:59] <Vivekananda> I am using lucid on a 5 yr old laptop
[18:00] <usr13> Mars___: Boot to BIOS and look around.  You might see something dealing with the processor, fan or heat related info.
[18:00] <ubuntu-tester> Vivekananda: the best you can do is to backup all that valuable until it's too late
[18:01] <usr13> Vivekananda: Time to by a new HD?
[18:01] <tripelb> OK jhutchins I do have a meg of ram. What I do notice is that this LCD screen cut off the first few columns. I gave away my last CRT monitor. I think I will try a different LCD screen. Bit that one didn't show the bios correctly. So I switched so I could change the boot order and start up Ubuntu. This is a FreeCycle machine. It passed the dell hardware test I ran it thru.
[18:02] <ubuntu-tester> usr13: might be not an option for old laptop (IDE pehaps)
[18:03] <Vivekananda> usr13: really short on cash right now and have backed up things ok so no issues. I have a dual boot and windows xp does not show a problem but it happens in ubuntu. Why??
[18:03] <morfeo_81> !source
[18:04] <JuJuBee> What is easiest way to transfer /home from one server to another?
[18:04] <ubuntu-tester> Vivekananda: because damaged area is on ubuntu pattition and not on xp partition
[18:05] <blkadder> JuJuBee: scp it.
[18:05] <Mars___> Oh, usr13. It appears my fan ISN'T spinning for some reason..?
[18:05] <Mars___> I guess this is a temperature problem then.
[18:05] <Mars___> I wasn't able to find any information in my System BIOS about the temperature.
[18:05] <JuJuBee> blkadder: OK, I would need to sudo correct? and how can I preserve perms?
[18:06] <ubuntu-tester> Vivekananda: you can repartition the drive to cut off bad area from usage. This will require enough free space on other media to move data
[18:06] <JuJuBee> blkadder: I didn't think scp preserved file ownership
[18:07] <blkadder> JujuBee: Generally. You can preserver permissions and UID/GID but they will only show up properly if they match on the destination host.
[18:07] <Vivekananda> ubuntu-tester: Yep I understand that but then I was just wondering that if the part is damaged then why would fsck show the free 1.5 gigs then go back to being randomly unavailable. But I guess I see the reason is that the drive is failing. :(. does repartition automatically remove a problem ??
[18:07] <ubuntu-tester> JuJuBee: or rsync
[18:07] <blkadder> JujuBee: You might have better luck with rsync over ssh.
[18:07] <morfeo_81> how can se if one library are installed?
[18:08] <ubuntu-tester> Vivekananda: no, it only gives chance to that
[18:08] <Mars___> I guess the fan went bad I guess..?
[18:09] <Mars___> That would be my best guess, otherwise I'm not sure what to make of this.
[18:09] <Vivekananda> You mean that while partitioning in Gparted I will get an option to "clean/not choose" bad sectors??
[18:09] <ubuntu-tester> morfeo_81: locate hasn't found it?
unfortunately no
[18:10] <Castrol> hi guys. anyone having problems with security.ubuntu.com mirror?
[18:10] <Castrol> hi guys. anyone having problems with security.ubuntu.com mirror?
[18:10] <Castrol> is there and alternative and updated mirror for security only? thanks in adv.
[18:10] <llutz> morfeo_81: what lib? apt-cache policy <packagename>
[18:10] <ubuntu-tester> morfeo_81: then it's not installed, is it?
 : I want to install pne bamlib for complete installation of tophat
[18:12] <ubuntu-tester> Castrol: what problem are you having? it responds to ping now
 : I want to install pne bamlib for complete installation of tophat, how can I do!
[18:13] <tripelb> Now see no new responses.sigh.silent channel must NE my connection.
[18:13] <Castrol> ubuntu-tester: it does respond to ping, but it fails when updating cache for universe folder
[18:13] <Castrol> ubuntu-tester: it happens from several hosts
[18:13] <JuJuBee> blkadder: OK, so i can sudo rsync -a /home user@remote.ip:/home  but how  do I handle the need for sudo on the remote?
[18:13] <morfeo_81> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1546246/
[18:14] <llutz> morfeo_81: sudo apt-get install libbam-dev
[18:14] <JuJuBee> Maybe I should just create the user dirs on remote and have them use rsync to move thier stuff over
[18:15] <Castrol> ubuntu-tester: it fails when retrieving update cache specifically from "http://security.ubuntu.com quantal-security/main"
[18:15] <morfeo_81> llutz:thanks..!
[18:16] <blkadder>  JujuBee: That would be a good idea.
[18:16] <blkadder> If you want to preserve ownership.
[18:17] <blkadder> Or just create the users with the same UID/GID on the destination target.
[18:17] <morfeo_81> llutz:where I can fin the position  where the lib was installed
[18:17] <Mars___> usr13: Are you there? :)
[18:17] <usr13> Mars___: Yes
[18:17] <llutz> morfeo_81: dpkg -L libbam-dev
[18:18] <morfeo_81> llutz:thanks a lot!!!
[18:19] <ubuntu-tester> Castrol: what release are you at and show your sources.list
[18:19] <morfeo_81> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1546246/ I continue to have problem also id installed
[18:20] <usr13> Mars___: No, I'm here.  *(You are there.)*
[18:20] <Mars___> Lol
[18:20] <Castrol> ubuntu-tester: quantal-security/universe is the one giving me problems, timeouts, waiting for headers.
[18:22] <tripelb> Is it truethat I can buy a magazine with an Ubuntu DVD (sic) in it?
[18:22] <ubuntu-tester> Castrol: i see, answer my q. please
[18:22] <morfeo_81> please specify $BAM_ROOT in your environment and do not give a PATH to --with-bam option. how can I do that
[18:22] <anathema_> I have a problem with brightness notification in asus laptop. Also it doens save my setting for the brightness. Any way to fix the notifications?
[18:23] <Vi> tripelb, some linux magazines offer a distro on cd every now and then. last time i got one it was slackware. but if you want ubuntu on a disc.. download an image and burn it.
[18:23] <ubuntu-tester> morfeo_81: have you seen/tried this? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12685004/how-to-install-tophat-in-debian
[18:23] <arunkumar413> my laptop is not recognizing the memory card
[18:24] <Castrol> ubuntu-tester: sure, sources.lst is http://pastebin.com/8DKUYWZd
[18:24] <tripelb> How do I shutdown from a text terminal screen? Exit and shutdown don't work.
[18:25] <Castrol> i changed from security.ubuntu.com mirror to dk.archive.ubuntu.com and it also fails in the same moment.
[18:25] <Petrov> poweroff
[18:25] <BluesKaj> tripelb, sudo halt
samtools I have installed using sudo apt-get
[18:25] <nabblet> hi,  i did a ubuntu 12.10 minmal install and sound only works for root. this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/TheAudioGroup says i should not add my user to sound group but it does not tell me an alternative. what do i have to do to get sound with a non root users
[18:26] <anathema_> tripelb, sudo poweroff
[18:27] <Guest55338> hi
[18:27] <Guest55338>  i need some help to get running my ubunoo
[18:27] <Guest55338> ubuntu
[18:27] <arunkumar413> i just plugged the memory card into the memory card slot on my laptop but the ubuntu is not detecing it
[18:28] <BluesKaj> nabblet, add the non root users to the audio group
[18:28] <usr13> nabblet: edit /etc/group~
[18:28] <usr13> nabblet: edit /etc/group
[18:29] <usr13> (First one was typo ~)
[18:29] <seel> is it possible to hook an ubuntu desktop up to a tv and play movies with mplayer using an android phone?
[18:31] <nabblet> BluesKaj, usr13 the ubuntu wiki say that this is exactly what i am not supposed to do https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/TheAudioGroup
[18:31] <jhutchins> You can use vigr, which will validate any chnages you make to the group file, but it's usually better to use usermod to make changes like that in a shadow password system.
[18:31] <usr13> nabblet: You can use the useradd command:  sudo useradd -G audio nabblet
[18:32] <jhutchins> seel: Why involve the desktop if the android is playing the movies?
[18:32] <usr13> (where nabblet is the actual user you need to add)
[18:32] <usr13> nabblet: But I should also tell you that you'll need to log out and back in again for changes to take effect.)
[18:32] <arunkumar413> i just plugged the memory card into the memory card slot on my laptop but the ubuntu is not detecing it
[18:33] <BluesKaj> nabblet, sorry I'm so used to home user systems , I forget about security requirements for on the job users
[18:33] <usr13> arunkumar413: Try reseating it.
[18:33] <seel> jhutchins: want to watch from the tv what's stored on the desktop on a nice tv while laying in bed
[18:33] <arunkumar413> usr13: did it but still not detecing
[18:33] <seel> not have to get up and touch the keyboard
[18:33] <nabblet> BluesKaj, it is home use
[18:33] <ubuntu-tester> arunkumar413: show (pastebin) tail -50 /var/log/syslog
[18:34] <usr13> arunkumar413: May be a missmatch.  Check the bios and see if it sees it.
[18:34] <BluesKaj> nabblet, well what i suggested works fine here
[18:34] <nabblet> BluesKaj, if you look at the last paragraph it says console kit daemon is responsble for giving me access to the sound card
[18:34] <usr13> auronandace: pastebinit /proc/meminfo   #Send resulting URL
[18:34] <Ziber> So, I currently dual boot windows7 and ubuntu. I'm working on reparitioning my HD, so I can give ubuntu more space. There's now a free parition, but I can't seem to merge it with the ubuntu parition, because it's behind it, I guess? Any help on this?
[18:35] <usr13> arunkumar413: pastebinit /proc/meminfo   #Send resulting URL
[18:35] <nabblet> BluesKaj, since i did a minimal install and use xdm instead of gdm maybe console kit does not realize that i should have access to sound?
[18:35] <brisingrr> evening
[18:35] <killer> when i try to install ubuntu (dual boot).....it merge all my window partitions(ntfs) except  C and when i try to re-partition it using gparted it gives error and does not partition it
[18:35] <usr13> nabblet: grep nabblet /etc/group  #See if you are in audio group
[18:36] <Ziber> The free parition is between /dev/sda3 and /dev/sda4 (which is an extended parition), and I want to merge it with /dev/sda6, the parition that holds my Linux data.
[18:36] <xibalba> anyone know of a web based application to conduct network throughput testing?
[18:36] <ubuntu-tester> Ziber: what behind what? :) show gparted screenshot
[18:36] <arunkumar413> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1546301/
[18:37] <nabblet> usr13, i am not
[18:37] <Ziber> ubuntu-tester: alright, sec.
[18:37] <usr13> nabblet: Ok, I'm wrong.  pulse should be in audio group.  grep audio /etc/group
[18:38] <xibalba> something like  web based version of IPERF
[18:38] <vifanq> Installation - can I boot from an old HD disk grub, and them "point" it to ubuntu's Installation USB drive ?
[18:38] <ubuntu-tester> Ziber: delete free partition, move whole extended to stitch to sda3, expand sda6. do it from LiveCD/LiveUSB
[18:38] <nabblet> usr13, yep, pulse is in
[18:39] <Ziber> ubuntu-tester: currently in a liveusb.
[18:39] <MonkeyDust> vifanq  what are you trying to do?
[18:39] <usr13> nabblet: Then that is not the problem. Sorry, I told you wrong.
[18:39] <Ziber> ubuntu-tester: the free parition is currently unallocated.
[18:39] <Ziber> ubuntu-tester: I can't 'delete' it.
[18:39] <ubuntu-tester> xibalba: ab (apache benchmark)
[18:39] <nabblet> usr13, since i did a minimal install and use xdm instead of gdm maybe console kit does not realize that i should have access to sound?
[18:39] <xibalba> i'm looking to test network throughput, like iperf, not web application responsiveness
[18:39] <nabblet> usr13, i get this idea from the last paragrpah of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/TheAudioGroup
[18:39] <vifanq> MonkeyDust: my laptop can't boot from USB. I have however an old linux & grub there already installed, so maybe I can use it to "redirect" boot to the ubuntu installation USB stick ?
[18:39] <ubuntu-tester> Ziber: ok, skip this step
[18:40] <Ziber> ubuntu-tester: and do what then?
[18:40] <usr13> nabblet: play /usr/share/sounds/alsa/*    #Tell us the error you get.
[18:40] <ubuntu-tester> Ziber: bun understand the risk of data loss when moving partitions
[18:40] <ubuntu-tester> *but
[18:41] <Ziber> ubuntu-tester: yeah, I'll finialize my backup before any of this, but what do I have to do?
[18:41] <krzkrz> hello all
[18:41] <Mars___> usr13, thanks for your help and diagnosis. I now have to wait 5~10 days for a next fan shipment.
[18:41] <arunkumar413> usr13: what happened
[18:41] <krzkrz> how can i make my terminal transparent?
[18:41] <xibalba> ubuntu-tester, any other recommendations
[18:42] <hilo> Is there a way to have a script run anytime a directory (or any of its subdirectories) are written to?
[18:42] <usr13> arunkumar413: How much memory are you supposed to have?
[18:42] <usr13> arunkumar413: How much did you have? How much did you put in?
[18:43] <ubuntu-tester> xibalba: sorry, got you wrong. thought you want to perf-test web app
[18:43] <xibalba> n/p\
[18:43] <nabblet> usr13, no error - just no sound
[18:43] <arunkumar413> usr13: it's a 4 gb memory card
[18:43] <nabblet> usr13, it just does as if everything was alright
[18:43] <xibalba> i need something like visualware
[18:43] <llutz> hilo: look at incron/inotify
[18:43] <xibalba> but 1 simple step out of it
[18:44] <usr13> arunkumar413: did you see it playing?  Dit show the progress of the files playing?
[18:44] <nabblet> usr13, with sudo <your command> it works
[18:44] <Ziber> I'm trying to give the unallocated space to my ubuntu parition (/dev/sda6), gparted screenshot: http://www.liber.in/gparted.png
[18:45] <arunkumar413> usr13: no its not detecting at all, how can i see the files playing
[18:45] <krzkrz> anyone>
[18:45] <usr13> arunkumar413: It shows:  3509804 kB
[18:46] <ubuntu-tester> Ziber: in gparted, select whole extended partition (cyan-cloored), right-click, Resize/Move
[18:46] <qbmaniac> Hi all
[18:46] <qbmaniac> I'm having a problem with system time in my ubuntu server
[18:46] <qbmaniac> the clock says 12:46 which is right
[18:46] <Ziber> ubuntu-tester: resize/move is greyed out.
[18:46] <usr13> nabblet: Did you see it playing?  Dit show the progress of the files playing?
[18:46] <qbmaniac> but when I do a backup, or when I run a PHP script, or anything else, a different time comes up
[18:47] <nabblet> usr13, yes
[18:47] <usr13> nabblet: Oh, I see, never mind.....
[18:47] <Ziber> It's busy apparently.
[18:47] <Ziber> Hm
[18:47] <qbmaniac> I tried syncing hardware time with software time, what else can I do?
[18:47] <usr13> nabblet: So it works but only by using sudo?
[18:47] <usr13> nabblet: But when you do it without sudo, does it give error?
[18:48] <arunkumar413> usr13: the memory card is not detecting, how is it showing in the /proc/meminfo
[18:48] <jhutchins> qbmaniac: Is the hardware clock set to local time or GMT?
[18:48] <ubuntu-tester> Ziber: show gparted screenshot
[18:48] <usr13> arunkumar413: I dono, but it's there.
[18:48] <qbmaniac> jhutchins: that's the problem, I tried to set it to local time but it didn't work. Not sure what I did wrong. How can I make sure it is in local time?
[18:48] <Ziber> ubuntu-tester: http://www.liber.in/gparted.png
[18:48] <nabblet> usr13, ok i uninstalled alsa-base and alsa-utils but now neiter root nor normal user work
[18:48] <nabblet> usr13, thought alsa may interfer with pulse
[18:48] <Harlin> just installed ubuntu 10 (LTS) ? after a restart, i log in and it logs me out. i know it's not the password because if i type a wrong pasword it says password failed? any ideas?
[18:48] <nabblet> usr13, reintsalling alsa
[18:48] <usr13> arunkumar413: It's the only memory chip in there?  There is only one memory chip, right?
[18:49] <Stuttergart> My MBP is not booting to X. Says that video and input are horked.
[18:49] <Vi> guys i ran nmap to try and map a network. i got 5 hosts : <IP_ADDRESS>,2,3,5 and 6. i can traceroute all of them except for <IP_ADDRESS>.. so now im kinda stuck.
[18:49] <Stuttergart> Does anyone know how to trigger an X config/detection run?
[18:49] <jhutchins> qbmaniac: You have to tell the system that it's local, not GMT.  The issue is that some subsystems don't use a locale, and/or ignore the timezone setting.
[18:49] <usr13> nabblet: pulseaudio is a sound server that runs on top of alsa. (You can not uninstall alsa.)
[18:49] <arunkumar413> usr13: yes, there is only one memory slot on my laptop, i inserted the memory card into the slot
[18:49] <usr13> arunkumar413: It's working.
[18:50] <Ziber> ubuntu-tester: ideas?
[18:50] <ubuntu-tester> Ziber: you are not on liveusb
[18:50] <Ziber> Yes, i am.
[18:50] <nabblet> usr13, the funny thing is: root complains about [pulse] Init failed: Connection refused and failed to initialze audio driver 'pulse' but it plays music - while normal user does not complain but is mute
[18:50] <arunkumar413> usr13: but i cant see it in the file manager
[18:50] <ubuntu-tester> Ziber: then why sda5 is mounted?
[18:50] <nabblet> usr13, didn't knwo that
[18:50] <usr13> arunkumar413: File manager?  You don't see RAM in a file manager.
[18:50] <nabblet> usr13, seems like root may bypass pulse
[18:50] <Ziber> I have no idea. What makes you think it is?
[18:51] <usr13> arunkumar413: Are you talking about a USB flash drive?
[18:51] <xibalba> is there a good speed test app in the repo?
[18:51] <arunkumar413> usr13: i want to see the memory card contents not the ram
[18:51] <usr13> arunkumar413: Oh, I'm sorry.
[18:51] <usr13> nabblet: pastebinit /etc/group  #Send resultin URL
[18:51] <ubuntu-tester> arunkumar413: show your syslog, see command above
[18:52] <usr13> arunkumar413: mount |pastebinit
[18:52] <ubuntu-tester> Ziber: mounted partition prevents moving/resizing
[18:53] <hilo> llutz, thanks, just what I need
[18:53] <nabblet_> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1546355/
[18:53] <ubuntu-tester> Ziber: key icon shows partition is in use
[18:53] <usr13> arunkumar413: sudo fdisk -l |pastebinit  #Send resulting URL and we'll have a look at at that too.
[18:53] <arunkumar413> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1546356/
[18:53] <Ziber> ubuntu-tester: it was swap, ran swapoff, working now
[18:54] <arunkumar413> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1546360/
[18:54] <jhutchins> qbmaniac: You need to change the UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS
[18:55] <gian_> ubuntu-it
[18:55] <gian_> escuse me ubuntu it?
[18:55] <jhutchins> qbmaniac: man tzconfig for more info.
[18:55] <jhutchins> !it
[18:56] <gian_> jhutchins,  tank you
[18:57] <Haematoma> echo $?
[18:57] <Avenger001> Someone knows if there are Linux drivers for a a Magalhaes computer?
[18:59] <jhutchins> Avenger001: Never heard of the brand.  You'll probably have to figure out what hardware it uses.
[18:59] <usr13> auronandace: unplug it and plug it back in again and give show us syslog (afterward)
[18:59] <ubuntu-tester> Avenger001: Caixa Magica, as Google suggests
[18:59] <Avenger001> jhutchins: It is basically an Intel computer, manufactured in Portugal.
[18:59] <usr13> auronandace: tail -n20 /var/log/syslog |pastebinit
[19:00] <ubuntu-tester> usr13: he has gone
[19:00] <nabblet> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1546355/
[19:00] <jhutchins> Avenger001: It may use fairly standard hardware, although some laptops don't.  Best answer is "try it and see".
[19:01] <Avenger001> jhutchins: I bet it does, but looking on the webpage, I only found Windows drivers....
[19:01] <MonkeyDust> Avenger001  try it, then you are the expert
[19:01] <jhutchins> Avenger001: Yep, that's how it goes.  Linux drivers tend to be built into linux rather than supplied seperately.
[19:02] <usr13> nabblet: ls -l /dev/snd/* |pastebinit
[19:02] <ubuntu-tester> Avenger001: www.caixamagica.pt
[19:03] <Stuttergart> I'm getting a message from lightdm that video and input are not configured. can't login.
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> Avenger001  http://linuxmadeasy.blogspot.pt/2012/10/linux-on-desktop-dead-more-alive-then.html
[19:03] <Stuttergart> does anyone know how to reconfigure X to fix ?
[19:03] <Stuttergart> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org doesn't do anything
[19:04] <Stuttergart> this is on MacbookPro9,2
[19:04] <nabblet> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1546381/
[19:05] <sanjayb> ah, I came in to ask about my touchpad driving me crazy, but then I discovered syndaemon, wow :-) - god bless ubuntu.
[19:06] <usr13> nabblet:  getfacl /dev/snd/*  | pastebinit
[19:07] <usr13> Stuttergart: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf  #What does that say?
[19:08] <nabblet>  getfacl /dev/snd/*  | pastebinit
[19:08] <nabblet> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1546393/
[19:09] <Stuttergart> usr13: I don't seem to have that file at all
[19:10] <Stuttergart> only xorg.conf.failsafe
[19:11] <usr13> nabblet: How many users do you have on this system?
[19:11] <usr13> nabblet: Just one, right?
[19:12] <usr13> nabblet: sudo useradd -G audio benedict
[19:12] <jhutchins> Stuttergart: Most systems use autodetect for configuring X these days, so no xorg.conf.
[19:13] <nabblet> usr13: i was thinking about falling back to this too :(
[19:13] <Testman> hello its me
[19:13] <jhutchins> Stuttergart: you did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[19:13] <Stuttergart> jhutchins: y, it doesn't do anything. Just right back to prompt.
[19:13] <nabblet> usr13: i think that by my minimal system some settings/daemons that are required for proper access management are not installed or configured
[19:14] <Stuttergart> jhutchings: I get a 0 exit code from the command
[19:14] <jhutchins> Stuttergart: many dms use their own config file anyway.  I'm not familiar with lightdm.
[19:14] <usr13> nabblet: I'm sure it will work.  I don't understand https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/TheAudioGroup It's not really telling us how to solve your problem so... I dono...  This should work ok for now.  Only problem it says is that it will deny other users audio.  Well yea, it will,(untill you add them to audio group)... so what?
[19:15] <Stuttergart> I'm google'ing for how to generate xorg.conf on 12.10 and can't find anything. :\
[19:15] <usr13> nabblet: you can always change it later if you find out what the real solution should be....
[19:15] <jhutchins> When a user logs in via the DM, it should add them to the basic hardware groups automatically.
[19:15] <g105b> I've installed Google Chrome using apt-get but I'd like to change to the beta version - how do I do it?
[19:15] <usr13> Stuttergart: what video card do you have?
[19:15] <nabblet> usr13: i will try to isntall gdm first - maybe it will fix all that
[19:15] <usr13> nabblet: you have sox  Right?
[19:16] <nabblet> usr13: sox?
[19:16] <usr13> nabblet: I doubt that gdm will do anything.
[19:16] <usr13> nabblet: Yea sox  sudo apt-get install sox
[19:17] <nabblet> usr13: sox is just an audio converter
[19:17] <Stuttergart> usr13: I have one of the Intel Ivy Bridge's. macbookpro9,2
[19:17] <nabblet> usr13: 90MB dependcies for gdm :O
[19:18] <usr13> nabblet: sox is the Swiss Army knife of audio manipulation
[19:18] <nabblet> usr13: i don't want to manipulate it - i want to hear it ;)
[19:18] <nabblet> usr13: i think i once fixed womething with gdm
[19:18] <usr13> nabblet: Ok, never mind.    sudo useradd -G audio benedict
[19:18] <nabblet> usr13: since it is also responsible for permission maangement
[19:18] <usr13> nabblet: Maybe your right, gdm is small
[19:19] <usr13> nabblet: I didn't know that...
[19:19] <nabblet> usr13: if that does not work i fall back to adding myself to the audio group
[19:19] <usr13> ok
[19:19] <usr13> nabblet: It's not going to hurt anything to add yourself to audio group
[19:19] <llutz> usr13: useradd will fail if the user exists, you need usermod and you don't want to use usermod -G without -a unless you are really sure about what it might break
[19:19] <usr13> nabblet: We need to do more research on this ...
[19:20] <nabblet> usr13: jep
[19:20] <usr13> nabblet: llutz has a good point
[19:20] <mrthg_> which is a good mail system for ubuntu for sending and recieving
[19:20] <llutz> usr13: well, that point is mainly for you...
[19:20] <usr13> I told you wrong.
[19:20] <nabblet> ?
[19:21] <llutz> usr13: sudo adduser username groupname
[19:21] <usr13> nabblet: Ok,     sudo usermod -G audio benedict
[19:21] <llutz> usr13: NO
[19:21] <jhutchins> usr13: NO
[19:22] <ubuntu-tester> mrthg_: you mean mail server?
[19:22] <llutz> usr13: that will kick benedict from all other groups
[19:22] <usr13> Oh yea...ok
[19:22] <mrthg_> yup lol
[19:22] <mrthg_> seems i didnt really think of that
[19:22] <llutz> usr13 not a nice effect for a sudo-user
[19:23] <usr13> adduser benedict audio
[19:23] <usr13> and then   ls /etc/group  #To make sure it looks as it should.
[19:23] <jhutchins> nabblet: have a quick look at the usermod manpage, then you want usermod -a -G audio <user>
[19:23] <mrthg_> is postfix any good as mailserver?
[19:24] <ubuntu-tester> mrthg_: good if you know it
[19:24] <usr13> cat /etc/group  && adduser benedict audio && cat /etc/group
[19:24] <Corny_> If /dev/sda has only one partition, is there difference between specifying /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 as parameter to ddrescue (or whatever)?
[19:24] <bekks> mrthg_: sure, it is.
[19:24] <mrthg_> problem is that i wouldnt know xD
[19:24] <ubuntu-tester> mrthg_: exim is also popular
[19:25] <jhutchins> usr13: I think you should make a policy of a) reading the manpage for any command you suggest, and b) trying the commmand yourself before posting it.
[19:25] <usr13> Corny_: Yes, it's still gonna be sda1
[19:25] <mrthg_> exim you say, gonna check it out :P
[19:25] <usr13> jhutchins: Good advise
[19:25] <Corny_> usr13: Yes as in no difference? O.o
[19:26] <jhutchins> Corny_: You can see what's available by using sudo fdisk -l
[19:26] <jhutchins> Corny_: if sda1 isn't there, it's going to give you an error.
[19:26] <dpurgert> Corny_, no /dev/sda1 is the partition.  /dev/sda is the harddrive itself
[19:27] <jhutchins> dpurgert: Some USB devices are accessed directly as the root device.
[19:27] <nabblet_old> wow - gdm is so fat (dependcies)
[19:27] <Corny_> Uh.... So when running ddrescue, which one should I specify?
[19:27] <jhutchins> !dm
[19:27] <llutz> Corny_: sda1
[19:27] <Corny_> Thanks.
[19:27] <djono> i ran clam tk and found 16 threats is there a way i can get more info on the threats
[19:27] <Avenger001> I found a solution.
[19:27] <Avenger001> Thanks to everyone.
[19:28] <llutz> Corny_: makes it easier to mount an image later, as you don't have to use offsets etc.
[19:28] <MonkeyDust> djono  exciting! screenshot please?
[19:28] <ubuntu-tester> Corny_: specifying sda have more sense as partition table can be corrupted
[19:28] <djono> how do i post  a screen shot
[19:28] <Corny_> Is it dangerous to put 0 in /sys/block/sdh/device/timeout to speed up rescue?
[19:29] <MonkeyDust> djono  http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[19:29] <ubuntu-tester> !pastebin | djono
[19:30] <ubuntu-tester> Corny_: it can lead to saving less data
[19:30] <usr13> djono: Is it text?
[19:30] <nabblet_old> lol - why does apt-get install gdm get me the whole unity system - wtf?
[19:30] <djono> i can get a log if u want
[19:31] <elena-IK> what desktop environment would you recommend for a senior who never used a computer before?
[19:31] <usr13> nabblet_old: I was afraid of that.
[19:31] <dpurgert> elena-IK, whichever one I (you) are most familiar with, as it's easier to help
[19:32] <ubuntu-tester> elena-IK: depends on tasks, but gnome 2 will do i guess
[19:32] <jhutchins> elena-IK: The idea of unity is to be simple to use and easy to learn; they don't have any learned habits so it really doesn't matter that much.
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> elena-IK  is the senior already familiar with a GUI?
[19:34] <nabblet_old> usr13, sound works - i was right
[19:34] <nabblet_old> usr13, gdm fixed me the permssion trouble - but at what price!
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> elena-IK  ignore my question
[19:35] <nabblet_old> usr13, i think i will have to find out what of gdm's 1000 deps is responsible for the permissions
[19:35] <djono> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1546455/
[19:35] <nabblet_old> usr13, it's a pitty that gdm installs so much cr*p with it... have a look at the things that come with it -.-
[19:36] <nabblet_old> usr13, my laptop is unusable right now XD
[19:36] <dpurgert> what'd you do nabblet_old ?
[19:37] <djono> has anyone checked it out?
[19:37] <xibalba> why do the CentOS folks consider Ubuntu a 'toy' ?
[19:38] <dpurgert> because they can xibalba
[19:38] <nabblet_old> dpurgert, i did a minimal install cuz i'mma linux pro - but all i got was pain and agony. then i installed, remebering the same painn from the 12.04 install, that a missing gdm is responsible for a lot of premission troube so i installed it - what i didn't know is that gdm invites the whole unity stuff on my system
[19:38] <MonkeyDust> xibalba  part of the OS flame war, i guess
[19:38] <nabblet_old> dpurgert, but at least gdm enabled sound for my normal user - before only root had sound
[19:39] <ubuntu-tester> djono: i see only packed win exes and obfuscated javascripts
[19:39] <nabblet_old> usr13, gdm also got my webcam working
[19:39] <dpurgert> nabblet_old, ouch ... that's going to be one amazing mess to unravel.
[19:39] <djono> so are they threats?
[19:39] <nabblet_old> usr13, dpurgert to reinstall or not to reinstall, that's the question
[19:40] <dpurgert> sudo rm -rf / will solve (or cause) all of your problems nabblet_old :)
[19:40] <v0lksman> /wc
[19:40] <djono> could any of those be key loggers?
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> djono  ask in #winehq
[19:41] <ubuntu-tester> exes are not (to linux at least). javascripts can contain browser/flash/reader exploits
[19:41] <nabblet_old> dpurgert, in that case i would also kill grub - then i could not boot any onf my OSs
[19:41] <dpurgert> djono, on the bright side -- they're all windows crap ... but yeah, nuke them all from orbit.  It's the only way to be sure.
[19:41] <djono> the java scripts come from jdownloader
[19:41] <FRO5T> lol removing the " / " will do huge damage, dont even think about touching the / !
[19:41] <nabblet_old> dpurgert,  or am i wrong?
[19:41] <djono> the exe i use don't require the net its just imgburn
[19:41] <ubuntu-tester> djono: to be sure, check it at virustotal
[19:42] <nabblet_old> is there a self-therapy group for people who are doing stuff they know they will fail at?
[19:42] <dpurgert> nabblet_old, good thing about install CDs ... you don't need grub for them to boot.  but yeah, if grub is installed under / then it will get deleted
[19:42] <nabblet_old> dpurgert, hm... but i think boot should be possible still
[19:42] <eliezer> Hi Guys,,,i need to edit this file in order con have my backlight dim working = sudo gedit /etc/default/grub i cant remember wich line is it and the typo,i remember is something with vendor cpi
[19:42] <nabblet_old> dpurgert, since grub is in the MBR?
[19:42] <FRO5T> i always install my distros under /
[19:43] <ubuntu-tester> FRO5T: bitter experience?
[19:43] <FRO5T> none
[19:43] <eliezer> and then upgrade grub
[19:43] <dpurgert> nabblet_old, you're right --> if you do rm -rf / it'll kill everything under / (the entire OS).  GRUB should be on the MBR, but I think there are still some configs kept in /boot (or somewhere) ...
[19:44] <dpurgert> nabblet_old, though to be honest -- when I'm doing an install, I go for formatting the entire disk
[19:44] <FRO5T> +1
[19:44] <nabblet_old> dpurgert, i have a second ubuntu and win xp on it
[19:45] <FRO5T> and you want to get rid on one of the operating systems ?
[19:45] <dpurgert> nabblet_old, well that complicates things :)
[19:45] <hissa2> hi
[19:45] <hissa2> hello
[19:46] <nabblet_old> what is the correct apt-get for "in only want this packages and every thin it depends on - but no unnecessary stuff"
[19:46] <dpurgert> sudo apt-get install (package)
[19:46] <z2389> Hi, I'm trying to partition my hard drive to dual boot Windows7 and Linux. The drive that I just shrank was D:. I shrank it 80gb for linux, however the 80gb is labelled FREE SPACE and not "unallocated". Is this a problem?
[19:46] <Coded1> is there an alternative to jdownloader?  jDownloader is ok but it's slow even on an ok system.  The best I get from google are links from '08-09.  Anything newer/not java dependant?
[19:46] <hissa2> hello people
[19:46] <z2389> D: is labelled as a logical drive.
[19:47] <nabblet_old> dpurgert, well that got me the whole unity stuff - just for gdm
[19:47] <usr13> z2389: No, that's ok
[19:47] <hissa2> ????????????????,
[19:47] <Baribal> Hi. I guess this is a bash question. I have a file with a list of files (one file per line). How do I delete all of the listed files?
[19:47] <FRO5T> free space means free space which is Currently not used
[19:47] <nabblet_old> dpurgert, i don't think that gdm requires unity....
[19:47] <hissa2> children
[19:47] <usr13> z2389: Ubuntu will install on the free space
[19:47] <FRO5T> like having 10gb free from 20gb
[19:47] <hissa2> bye
[19:47] <hissa2> bye
[19:48] <BluesKaj> nabblet_old, is there a reason you aren't using lightdm ?
[19:48] <Coded1> Baribal: probably something to do with xargs ;)
[19:48] <escott> eliezer, LINUX_DEFAULTS line (the one with quiet splash and root=UUID blah
[19:48] <nabblet_old> BlueEagle, no - gdm is just the first thing that came to my mind. i used xdm before but it seems that xdm can not handle session permission in cooperation with console kit correctly
[19:48] <z2389> thank you usr13
[19:49] <nabblet_old> BluesKaj, , no - gdm is just the first thing that came to my mind. i used xdm before but it seems that xdm can not handle session permission in cooperation with console kit correctly
[19:49] <nabblet_old> BluesKaj, i have to test if lightdm can handle the permission correctly
[19:49] <blkadder> for i in `cat file`; do rm $i or something like that
[19:50] <eliezer> escott,  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor"  im i wright ? im confused
[19:50] <Coded1> Baribal: cat file | xargs /bin/rm
[19:50] <eliezer> i dont want to crash
[19:51] <Baribal> Thanks, Coded1. :)
[19:51] <escott> eliezer, you probably want it on the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT line. im not sure when the non-default one is used
[19:51] <Coded1> Baribal: make sure you check the file though.  If one line has a '/' you might make more problems then the command is worth
[19:52] <eliezer> escott, thanks
[19:52] <mbeierl_> Baribal, but, do note that will not work for files that contain spaces as the 'for file in ' also uses space as a delimiter, so "My Documents" would attempt to delete My and then Documents
[19:52] <Baribal> Coded1, already on it. :) I want to purge everything to do with keystone after a botched devstack deployment, but I don't want to i.e. delete pythons keystone module.
[19:53] <Baribal> mbeierl_, duly noted.
[19:53] <nabblet_old> party is over - the only reason why i upgraded from 12.04 ot 12.10 is becuase my system freeezes severa times a day
[19:53] <nabblet_old> and now it happens again
[19:53] <nabblet_old> i will look at it tomorrow >(
[19:53] <mbeierl_> nabblet_old, perhaps silly question, but have you run a ram test?
[19:53] <Baribal> Ubuntu has indeed become familiar territory for the average Windows user, nabblet_old :)
[19:54] <nabblet_old> mbeierl_, already did
[19:54] <mbeierl_> nabblet_old, I've seen random freezes caused by badly seated ram frequently enough
[19:54] <mbeierl_> k
[19:54] <FRO5T> the ram problems can occur only in some specific situations...
[19:54] <jhutchins> nabblet_old: Could be a hardware problem.
[19:54] <sylphie> nabblet_old; do the freezes have anything in common?
[19:55] <FRO5T> freezes can be from motherboard or your gpu
[19:55] <nabblet_old> sylphie, they annoy me :)
[19:55] <sylphie> nabblet_old; besides that
[19:55] <Cong> what's the switch to say I don't want extra packages?
[19:55] <jhutchins> nabblet_old: gdm probably needs a certain amount of gnome, but installing all of gnome is probably overkill and bad packaging.
[19:55] <nabblet_old> jhutchins, i think so too
[19:56] <ubuntu-tester> Cong: which ones?
[19:56] <sylphie> nabblet_old; does your machine runs other OS's without lockups?
[19:56] <nabblet_old> sylphie, i was not able to do deeper test - and i wont do the now
[19:56] <jhutchins> nabblet_old: I have succeeded in getting things like that fixed by filing bugreports, but you have to know what the actual dependency errors are.
[19:56] <Cong> ubuntu-tester, it goes sometin like --no--dependencies
[19:57] <sylphie> nabblet_old; I mean does it run ok on windows/dos/whatever?
[19:57] <Cong> ubuntu-tester, I want to install alacarte with out extra packages.
[19:57] <nabblet_old> sylphie, have to test that - it ran well for ubuntu a long time
[19:58] <jhutchins> Cong: Theoretically, any of the "extra" packages are required for your target package to run, like code libraries and such.
[19:58] <sylphie> nabblet_old; that's the simplest way to see if you have a hardware error or whether ubuntu is the problem
[19:58] <jhutchins> Cong: Sometimes the packagers aren't very careful about what they include.
[19:58] <nabblet_old> sylphie, jep
[19:59] <jhutchins> Cong: I think there may be a "recommends" feature, but I don't know if that's on or off by default.
[19:59] <escott> jhutchins, Cong on by default in synaptic off by default in apt-get
[19:59] <Esor> irc_hide_version = 1
[19:59] <Esor> whopsie sorry
[20:00] <escott> jhutchins, Cong all controlled through /etc/dpkg files
[20:00] <Cong> esor /set irc_hide_version on
[20:00] <Esor> thank you
[20:00] <crackguy> can i use 'wget -i file.txt' and store each page with a different name all in one command?
[20:01] <sylphie> It's too late, we know you're using xhcat
[20:01] <FRO5T> wget http://
[20:01] <escott> crackguy, page?
[20:01] <crackguy> escott page/file/image
[20:02] <escott> crackguy, if you wget one file there is one file? are you doing a recursive pull and not wanting to keep the structure?
[20:03] <crackguy> escott -i can download multiple files stored in links.txt and i want to rename them 1-100 etc...
[20:03] <Cong> Oh, I found it, it's --no-install-recommends.
[20:04] <escott> crackguy, just turn on noclobber and set them all to the same filename
[20:05] <crackguy> escott, awesome! thanks
[20:06] <FRO5T> you want to rename many files and seeking terminal commands right ?
[20:06] <Fanfy> Okay uhm...o.o redirected here. Uhm does anyone have the simplest directions on how to download magic card editor for ubuntu? I've tried and well ubuntu officially hates me
[20:06] <squidnipples> hi all. I have an apache installation which always gives me a 404 on a specific subfolder of my webroot. I can create new folders next to it no problem. Can't find an .htaccess or rule in sites-available that could be causing it. What else can I look for?
[20:06] <krzkrz> anyone use sublime?
[20:06] <squidnipples> sublime text? love it
[20:07] <krzkrz>  squidnipples you managed to install Package Control?
[20:08] <jemadux> any good gui written on gtk for latex - tex ?/
[20:08] <squidnipples> yeah but it was a few months ago
[20:08] <squidnipples> and not on ubuntu
[20:08] <FRO5T> httpd.conf ?
[20:08] <krzkrz> i cant seem to get it installed
[20:08] <krzkrz> package control that is
[20:08] <krzkrz> sorry
[20:08] <krzkrz> i mean i can get it installed. but running it does nothing
[20:09] <Fanfy> So I'm guessing no one here has used Magic Set Editor? ._.
[20:10] <sylphie> Fanfy; if they have their own web site, you could d/l the package from them directly
[20:11] <Fanfy> Yeah I've tried. But see I'm dumb when it comes to the whole ubuntu thing and well it's not working x.x
[20:11] <squidnipples> krzkrz do you have to set up a proxy?
[20:12] <squidnipples> nothing in httpd.conf that has an bearing on that directory
[20:13] <squidnipples> *any
[20:13] <sylphie> Fanfy; have you tried here- http://magicseteditor.sourceforge.net/
[20:14] <Fanfy> Yup sylphie I have. That's where I'm trying it now. I've even looked up directions and well some people don't explain it in simple directions...I've sepnt over an hour trying to figure this out...
[20:15] <arney> Hello, I installed gnome-session-fallback, but that does not install a GUI login screen, how do I install a login screen?
[20:15] <sylphie> Fanfy; I'll have a look at the package, just a minute
[20:15] <arney> I am running ubuntu-server 12.10
[20:15] <Fanfy> o.o really? Thanks! Life saver!
[20:16] <syncsys> why do I get 2 screens while playing a 3d movie?
[20:16] <ozpy> Hi. I installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop. The unity dashboard is not working after restarting the PC. I tried ALT+CTRL+F2 > Unity --reset . But it does not work anymore like Ubuntu 11.10
[20:16] <FRO5T> ubuntu server with de - LoL man !
[20:16] <sylphie> Fanfy; actually, it will be a few minutes, sourceforge is running slow for downloads
[20:16] <squidnipples> 3d movies are actually made up of two slightly different views that are stitched together in alternating frames
[20:16] <squidnipples> if your software doesn't know that, I guess you could get two screens, one for each
[20:16] <arney> FRO5T: Hey, I like starting from scratch.
[20:16] <FRO5T> 3d movies are captured with speciliazed 3d cameras
[20:17] <Fanfy> Okay no problem.
[20:17] <poq> Is any software for temperature monitoring? ubuntu 12.04
[20:17] <learnLinux> Can someone help me with sound? Using alsa, headphones = awesome!! non headphones = horrible, always have to up the vol by 100% and the quality isn't there.  I have a new HP pav dv7-6c95 with beats audio 4 speakers...  ANY HELP PLEASE
[20:17] <ozpy> Hi. I installed Ubuntu 12.10 on my laptop. The unity dashboard is not working after restarting the PC. I tried ALT+CTRL+F2 > Unity --reset . But it does not work anymore like Ubuntu 11.10
[20:18] <syncsys> why do I get 2 screens while playing a 3d movie?
[20:18] <FRO5T> side by side movie perharps
[20:19] <syncsys> yes
[20:19] <syncsys> why
[20:19] <ubuntu-tester> poq: sensors, conky for GUI, others
[20:19] <FRO5T> just buy or "download" non-SBS movie ;]
[20:20] <arney> Okay, found my answer, I needed an X display manager, such as LightDM
[20:21] <squidnipples> syncsys see my reply above
[20:21] <ubuntu-tester> poq: psensor, xsensors
[20:22] <ztgu> How can i boot my machine into nomodeset???
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> ztgu  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[20:23] <sylphie> Fanfy; Firstly, their linux full package is actually a precompile binary, so you would just run the "install" program and hope it works
[20:23] <Fanfy> Yeah....did that lol it doesn't...
[20:24] <Fanfy> Ubuntu really hates me...lol
[20:24] <sylphie> Fanfy; your other option is to get the source code they link right underneath that, and build the package yourself
[20:24] <FRO5T> or vice versa :D
[20:25] <ztgu> MonkeyDust: If i use nomodeset will my graphics perfome worse or better? I have the radeon driver ( the reason for nomodeset, it because I have a black screen on resume on suspend)
[20:25] <Fanfy> Ahm..ahah...yeah I don't  think I can 'build' anything myself. o.o I'm not that computer smart. I mean I'm like a genius with photoshop but this takes it to a new level lmao
[20:26] <poq> ubuntu-tester: thanks
[20:26] <Fanfy> Nah I don't mind Ubuntu...it just likes to be complicated with me lol I wish it wasn't so difficult haha
[20:26] <sylphie> Fanfy; building a package from source isn't necessrily hard, it can be just a few commands
[20:26] <ubuntu-tester> ztgu: you can also try to find kernel biuld that works. did it work earlier?
[20:27] <Fanfy> ._. lol a few commands I have no clue how to put in lmao
[20:27] <Fanfy> See when I said noob...I meant. I got my computer back from my friend who told me how to find applications I wanted and it ended there...lol
[20:27] <Lunar_Lander> hi
[20:28] <sylphie> Fanfy; ok. Did you at least try editing the install script like they suggested in case of problems?
[20:28] <ztgu> ubuntu-tester: It never worked. Works on windows of course. What do you mean with a kernel build that works? like an older or newer?
[20:28] <syncsys> squidnipples,  ok how to play that. by what software. and what settings
[20:28] <Lunar_Lander> is there a command to see the total uptime of the computer since ubuntu has been installed? just out of interest
[20:28] <Lunar_Lander> :)
[20:28] <syncsys> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_video  i need glasses to view those
[20:28] <tripelb> OK I need help again. Since 11.04 couldn't display I tries 6.1 but the disk wouldn't boot, so I tried 9.11 which displayed fine so I am going to install it. Now in the partitioner. What I want is to write over the 11.04 installation but I don't see how to do it. I am in "Prepare Disk Space".  I hope someone here is interested in helping me.  (Earlier today, computer does not have the hardware for unity. Also GUI on 11.04  display is unstable.
[20:28] <Guest83282> helllo , i ve installed ubuntu without boot loader. how do i install grub legacy using a live usb?
[20:29] <Fanfy> sylphie - Ahm. Well I counted lines and deleted something and saved. Of course I did copy what I deleted encase it didn't work. But yeah did it and didn't work....if I deleted the right section o.o
[20:29] <syncsys> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3D_video  i need glasses to view those  squidnipples
[20:29] <squidnipples> syncsys wish I knew, I just thought that might help your web searching
[20:29] <jhutchins> tripelb: What hardware are you working with?
[20:29] <angelo__> salve qualcuno può aiutarmi x risolvere il problema della web cam al contrario xke è la prima volta ke uso ubuntu e sono inesperto grazie
[20:29] <madprops> tripelb: what options does it show you?
[20:29] <ubuntu-tester> ztgu: yes, if it worked before and got broken. but if your chip is totally unsupported, dunno. google '<chip> radeon'
[20:29] <jhutchins> !it
[20:30] <syncsys> squidnipples,  thanks@
[20:30] <madprops> tripelb: you can also check other lighter options like xubuntu
[20:30] <ubuntu-tester> Lunar_Lander: uptime, literally ;)
[20:30] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[20:30] <Lunar_Lander> one sec
[20:30] <Lunar_Lander> ah
[20:31] <Lunar_Lander> that gives the current session only
[20:31] <Lunar_Lander> and last gives like the most recent ones
[20:31] <ztgu> ubuntu-tester: My graphics are good, but the only problem is a black screen on resume after suspend. In debian wiki http://wiki.debian.org/Suspend . they recommend disabling KMS (kernel mode set) to the specific gpu
[20:31] <sylphie> Fanfy; ok. then I don't know what to tell you, your only option is to build from source, else use the windows version
[20:31] <ubuntu-tester> Lunar_Lander: oh sorry, 'since installed' is a bit harder
[20:31] <Lunar_Lander> hm
[20:31] <krzkrz> how does one get the  version of wget>
[20:31] <Lunar_Lander> but from the software-center you can see the day on which the system was installed, right?
[20:31] <squidnipples> eh
[20:32] <tasslehoff> I've written a startup script for my server that starts rtorrent in screen. I will put it in /etc/init.d, but which /etc/rc<X> folder should I put it in?
[20:32] <ubuntu-tester> ztgu: ok try it
[20:32] <tripelb> I am stuck. I want to overwrite the Ubuntu 11.04 partition. I am booted from the LiveCD.
[20:32] <tripelb> Should I erase the 11.04?
[20:32] <Fanfy> Lol I tried the windows version I can't use it cause it saves to the Windows 7 OS on my harddrive. Then I can't find it...tried that already. And I can't use windows 7 cause it doesn't load on my laptop...
[20:32] <Lunar_Lander> and was 12.04 released on April 23rd?
[20:32] <ubuntu-tester> krzkrz: --version
[20:33] <Fanfy> But thanks I guess...probably gonna smash my computer since it's not working. I've been trying for over an hour now.  I have heard that is the same/similar to booting in nomodeset. do you know if nomodeset is slower than my existing setup?
[20:33] <tripelb> Doing also erase the swap?
[20:34] <sylphie> Fanfy; It's not your computer's fault, it's fault of the programmers at Magic set editor. If they are going to distribute pre-compiled linux binaries, they should test them first
[20:35] <ubuntu-tester> ztgu: of course i don't. you can always revert it back (to black :). or just boot with nomodeset once and test
[20:35] <escott> ztgu, nomodeset has nothing to do with speed
[20:35] <Fanfy> sylphie - and  then they should write the simplest of directions...x.x for people like me. Apparently it works for other people. Just not me...
[20:35] <ztgu> escott: or performance.
[20:35] <sylphie> Fanfy; and you could possibly guild it from source with less than five easy console commands
[20:35] <dpurgert> Fanfy -- what're you trying to do?
[20:36] <escott> ztgu, correct
[20:36] <Fanfy> sylphie - Yeah I dunno what that means...lol
[20:36] <dpurgert> oh ... build a package/program from source ... yeah -- it can defintiely be easy
[20:36] <Fanfy> dpurgert - trying to get flippin Magic Set Editor to download lmao
[20:36] <escott> ztgu, it is a necessary step to move the rendering in kernel which is performance related, but modesetting itself is not a performance thing
[20:37] <dpurgert> ah
[20:37] <ztgu> escott: what do you mean with: move the rendering in the kernel which is performance related?
[20:38] <sylphie> dpurgert; http://magicseteditor.sourceforge.net/ provides either a precompiled linux binary which won't install or source code
[20:38] <dpurgert> well, let's see
[20:38] <Fanfy> Yep and it won't download for me. Sadly. And I need it cause otherwise I have to keep revisiting my library.
[20:38] <dpurgert> um
[20:38] <ztgu> escott: nomodeset can't be to good on performance (I think). I have heard that adding the nomodeset parameter instructs the kernel to not load video drivers and use BIOS modes instead until X is loaded.
[20:39] <dpurgert> the "precompiled binary" seems to be a tgz file ... gimme 5 minutes to get it
[20:39] <escott> ztgu, if the kernel doesn't modeset then the kernel doesn't know the state of the card so it cannot manage buffers on behalf of applications. with the modesetting in kernel then the kernel can directly manage buffers which allows applications to simply tell the kernel to swap the front and back buffer instead of asking another priv'ed process to do the swap on their behalf
[20:39] <Fanfy> o.o okay I also found this http://magicseteditor.sourceforge.net/node/1918 but it confuses me even more and didn't help.
[20:39] <LeMike> hello :) i got a external usb2vga device but the screen stays empty. can anyone tell me how to setup a very simple xorg.conf that allows 2 creens (dvi and hdmi) + one over usb2vga ?
[20:39] <syncsys> squidnips,    the correct way is http://shiliarr95z.weebly.com/2/post/2011/09/bino-3d-movie-player-on-ubuntu.html
[20:40] <dpurgert> I really need a bigger HDD for this...
[20:40] <tasslehoff> hm. just a symlink from /etc/rc2.d to my script in /etc/init.d, and I'm done?
[20:40] <Fanfy> Dunno what HDD is...o.o''
[20:41] <Frank_Leach> Am looking for help with my new installation of ubuntu 12.10? Loving it but...cant install wireless drivers. On a dell inspiron 1525
[20:41] <cjhorn> join #hackers
[20:42] <escott> ztgu, at present though the only thing that is swapping buffers is the compositor through X so with the current architecture it shouldn't matter that much performance-wise, with wayland it may be different because the compositor may be able to take itself out of the loop (thats my understanding)
[20:42] <dpurgert> Fanfy, HDD = Hard Disk Drive
[20:42] <syncsys> squidnips,  i was disconnected
[20:42] <squidnips> figure it out?
[20:42] <Fanfy> dpurgert - ooh o.o
[20:42] <ioria> Frank_Leach: iwconfig ?
[20:42] <dpurgert> Frank_Leach, I'm surprised that you need drivers.  Does the install really not see the wlan card?
[20:43] <Frank_Leach> Its surprising alright dpurgent, had same problem with 12.04 but cant remember solution
[20:44] <Sgt_Shultz> i know nothing, but why are apple shops full of people wanting thier easy to use pc//phone fixed, walked past 30 red shirts, 90 customers, i am missing something, or they had thier lobotomy ?have
[20:44] <Frank_Leach> ioria, will try iconfig
[20:44] <Frank_Leach> iwconfig
[20:44] <Fanfy> dpurgert - well a friend of mine  told me to do these commands for it. but they don't work either x.x sudo apt-get install libwxgtk2.8-0 libhunspell-1.2-0  tar -xf <tarbal> sudo ./install.sh
[20:44] <ztgu> escott: Well, did not quite get a total understanding of everything you just said. but I will give nomodeset a try to see if it fixes my resume from suspend problem. Disabling kms for your specific gpu is the same as nomodesetting?
[20:44] <escott> ztgu, should be
[20:44] <dpurgert> OK ... hang on
[20:44] <Fanfy> And he said to do it in the terminal not the folder where the card editor is located x.x so yeah none of it works...refuses to do so.
[20:44] <Frank_Leach> **no wireless extensions**
[20:45] <ztgu> escott: ty,
[20:45] <dpurgert> Fanfy, did you download the *tar.gz file already?  if so
[20:45] <ubuntu-tester> Frank_Leach: isn't there a hardware killswitch?
[20:45] <linux111> Frank go to Software Sources
[20:46] <Fanfy> dpurgert - no i don't know where to go or how to do it. I mean i know how  to bring up the terminal and copy and paste but it doesn't woork.
[20:46] <dpurgert> um
[20:46] <Fanfy> Tells me some denied thing.
[20:46] <Frank_Leach> it isnt the hardware problem...software for sure, and its installing the firmware thats the problem
[20:46] <dpurgert> you have to download the file from sourceforge -- grab the 47M one (full install)
[20:46] <ztgu> escott: ty,
[20:46] <Fanfy> yep got it
[20:46] <dpurgert> OK
[20:46] <Fanfy> I installed it. It's sitting in a folder in my home thing
[20:46] <escott> ztgu, at present my understanding of X and opengl is that the application writes to a buffer, and then compiz or some other compositor tells the kernel to draw it. with kms the kernel knows the state of the graphics card and can manage memory on behalf of it. the kernel (with the help of the compositor) could then map a page in the applications address space to a page in the graphics card DMA range, and the kernel could then do the dra
[20:46] <escott> wing without further involvement of the compositor. i think thats what DRI2 does over DRI. but the kernel can't do that unless it knows the state of the card
[20:47] <dpurgert> OK, so you extracted the tarball already?
[20:47] <Frank_Leach> go to software source and do...what?
[20:47] <ubuntu-tester> Frank_Leach: firmware? did you update card's fw?
[20:47] <Fanfy> I dunno what 'tarball' is but I extracted it to my 'home' folder thing whatever it is
[20:48] <linux111> System Setting > Software Sources > Additional Drivers chose uSING bROCADCOM 802.11
[20:48] <dpurgert> "tarball" is the "full" name for a file ending *tar ...
[20:48] <Fanfy> I mean i can view folders and files and when I click 'install' i click run in terminal and then it does something and tells me it didn't work.
[20:48] <Frank_Leach> ububtu helper, how do i do that?
[20:48] <linux111> DELL INPIRON
[20:48] <ztgu> escott: That's quite an understanding
[20:48] <Guest68561> helllo , i ve installed ubuntu without boot loader. how do i install grub legacy using a live usb?
[20:48] <escott> ztgu, only if its all correct ;)
[20:48] <dpurgert> OK Fanfy, what you have to do is open a terminal, and then navigate to inside the magicset directory
[20:48] <ubuntu-tester> Frank_Leach: you don't have to
[20:49] <Fanfy> dpurgert - Okay I know how to do that!
[20:49] <Frank_Leach> oh? So what do i do bro
[20:49] <ioria> Frank_Leach: lspci ?
[20:49] <linux111> go to software sources
[20:49] <linux111> additional drivers
[20:49] <Fanfy> dpurgert - then whut o.o
[20:50] <dpurgert> Fanfy, once you're there, then run ./install
[20:50] <linux111> you will see "This device is using an alternative driver."
[20:50] <Fanfy> I just type in ./install?
[20:50] <escott> Fanfy, noooo
[20:50] <dpurgert> hang on, lemme get there
[20:50] <Fanfy> .__.
[20:50] <escott> !info checkinstall | Fanfy dpurgert
[20:50] <vitimiti> hallo
[20:51] <ubuntu-tester> Frank_Leach: yes, start with lspci and pastebin output
[20:51] <Fanfy> i'm so confused...
[20:51] <ztgu> escott: Do you think using the fglrx driver instead of the radeon driver is a good option to fixing the suspend issue?
[20:51] <dpurgert> escott -- meh, fair enough
[20:52] <Fanfy> ._. I've no idea whut you guys are saying!
[20:52] <escott> Fanfy, apt keeps track of files on the system so they can safely be removed later. if you sudo ./install then apt won't know about it. you should use "checkinstall" which will make a *.deb file that you can install so that apt knows what you are doing
[20:52] <Frank_Leach> pastebin?
[20:52] <Frank_Leach> :-(
[20:52] <sylphie> bbl
[20:52] <ioria> Frank_Leach: it should be just one line regarding the wireless ... paste here
[20:52] <Fanfy> Soo I just type in checkinstall ./install?
[20:52] <ubuntu-tester> !pastebin | Frank_Leach
[20:53] <escott> ztgu, i would think that radeonhd driver (ie open source) would be better than fglrx (proprietary) for suspend issues
[20:53] <Frank_Leach> 0b:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11a/b/g (rev 01)
[20:53] <Frank_Leach> liam@liam-Inspiron-1525:~$ pastebin
[20:53] <tripelb> I want to install an Ubuntu right over an old Ubuntu partition. How do I do that? I cannot figure it out.
[20:53] <benftwc> Hi
[20:53] <dpurgert> Fanfy -- no, Checkinstall is a program that you can get so you can build a *.deb package to install (so apt knows about it) ... not entirely necessary, but makes things easier
[20:53] <ztgu> That's what I am uding right now
[20:53] <ioria> Frank_Leach:  try additional drivers
[20:53] <ztgu> escott: That's what I am using right now
[20:53] <MonkeyDust> tripelb  delete the ubuntu partition, then install the new ubuntu - after backup
[20:53] <Frank_Leach> tied...it said my drivers were up to date
[20:54] <Fanfy> -dies- So I have to install checkinstall and then use it with this magic card editor file?
[20:54] <benftwc> I've a problem to do an upgrade from 10.10 to latest ubuntu, that said to me "network problem" but update work fine ...
[20:54] <ioria> Frank_Leach:  /etc/network/interfaces ?
[20:54] <dpurgert> fanfy, no you don't _have_ to (honestly, I don't do a lot of things that apt "knows" about)
[20:54] <Frank_Leach> /etc/network/interfaces
[20:55] <Fanfy> well okay then I really don't care if it comes off...i just want it on. Soooo how do I do it? I'm still stuck at looking at the magic folder in terminal o.o
[20:55] <dpurgert> ok
[20:56] <Fanfy> So what do I type to install to make it work?
[20:56] <ztgu> escott: I am now going to reboot my machine after changing GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" to GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`
[20:56] <ztgu> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset" in the file gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub . I will reboot my system and share my results
[20:56] <dpurgert> if you're in the directory, then ./install should do it
[20:56] <Fanfy> just ./install none of that sudo stuff?
[20:57] <dpurgert> you have two options
[20:57] <dpurgert> 1. ./install (as yourself) or 2. sudo ./install
[20:57] <dpurgert> apparently, it'll get installed to different places (because of rights) and it really doesn't matter
[20:57] <ubuntu-tester> Frank_Leach: try other drivers. read http://aengakug.notlong.com
[20:58] <dpurgert> if you're the only user of the PC, then ./install (without sudo) should be sufficient
[20:59] <Fanfy> oh gosh
[21:00] <Fanfy> Okay well it didn't work and my thing went all weird o.o
[21:00] <dpurgert> oh, what'd it do?
[21:00] <Fanfy> Well I couldn't send a message thing so I had to close out of this and reenter o.o and then it told me there was already a directory made or something i dunno...
[21:01] <dpurgert> what?
[21:01] <Fanfy> failed to create symbolic link
[21:01] <Fanfy> whatever that means
[21:01] <dpurgert> it couldn't make a symlink -- what's the full text of the error?
[21:01] <Fanfy> and cp: cannot create directory and theres another that has a bunch of other stuff
[21:01] <Fanfy> ahm..
[21:01] <ubuntu-tester> Fanfy: if you want real help show exact output
[21:02] <Fanfy> Oh well
[21:02] <Fanfy> I can't send what it says
[21:02] <dpurgert> ?
[21:02] <calimero_82> bye
[21:02] <dpurgert> throw it into pastebin
[21:03] <Fanfy> I copied and pasted and then it made my text  thing all black and with different color letters and when i hit enter it doesnt send just goes to a new line
[21:03] <ubuntu-tester> Fanfy: whatever you do there seems it disconnects you every time :)
[21:03] <Fanfy> Oh i disconnect myself so I can send a message lol
[21:03] <dpurgert> oh
[21:03] <Fanfy> I don't have a 'send' button anywhere o.o i can't find it
[21:03] <Sgt_Shultz> calm, patience and planning are required, fanfy how much space avaiable on drive ?
[21:03] <dpurgert> it's because the binary package is dumb and isn't built for Ubuntu
[21:03] <ubuntu-tester> Fanfy: you copy selected text from terminal with Ctrl+Shift+V
[21:03] <Fanfy> oh no..
[21:04] <LeMike> xrandr query doesn't show my usb2vga device. does anyone know how to fix this?
[21:04] <dpurgert> OK
[21:04] <dpurgert> lessee ... I don't know which distro thinks your bin is in /home/yourname/bin but they based it off that package
[21:04] <Fanfy> Well ctrl and v doesn't work eitherrr
[21:05] <ubuntu-tester> Fanfy: and Shift
[21:05] <Fanfy> See told ya guys my computer hates me.
[21:05] <Fanfy> Yeah tried shift too
[21:05] <jhutchins> Fanfy: What terminal program are you running?
[21:05] <Fanfy> terminal.
[21:05] <Fanfy> Just says Terminal o.o
[21:05] <Fanfy> Are there specific ones?
[21:05] <TarantulaFudge> hey guys
[21:06] <jhutchins> Fanfy: Probably gnome terminal.  Yeah, there's a bunch.
[21:06] <ubuntu-tester> Fanfy: guess you have to find your friend and ask him to help again
[21:06] <dpurgert> looks like /usr/local/bin or /usr/local/sbin would be the ones (or /usr/bin or /usr/sbin)
[21:06] <Fanfy> O.O Oh gosh I gotta go!
[21:06] <Fanfy> My aunt is gonna killll me .__.
[21:06] <jhutchins> Fanfy: Hold mouse and drag highlights?
[21:06] <Fanfy> yeah did that and copied and paste to here and it goes all weird
[21:06] <jhutchins> Fanfy: DOn't paste here.
[21:07] <LeMike> fanfy what does "echo $SHELL" say?
[21:07] <Fanfy> Anyways. Thanks for trying guys. I'll have to try again another time I can get to the library
[21:07] <jhutchins> Fanfy: Come back wehn you have time.
[21:07] <Fanfy> echo what?
[21:07] <LeMike> echo $SHELL
[21:07] <ztgu> I am back
[21:07] <Fanfy> Oh yeah I'll try to come back if I can find  this chat again...someone referenced me here from somewhere else lol
[21:07] <cuddylier> hi
[21:07] <cuddylier> How do I use apparmor?
[21:07] <FRO5T> Oh my back
[21:08] <dpurgert> ugh .. lessee ... which bin do I have write permissions into ... hmm...?
[21:08] <Fanfy> Well gotta go thanks everyone! I'll try to find you again if I can haha
[21:08] <LeMike> i need help with my x11. the usb2vga device isn't listed in "xrandr --query" . any idea how to fix it?
[21:09] <sybariten> I'm on Ubuntu 12.10 and i'm interested in trying out this whole virtualization thing, on a laptop with 3.6 (??) Gb RAM. Should i just go ahead and DL a virtualbox .deb file from Oracles site, and throw it at dpkg ?
[21:09] <ztgu> escott: I changed quiet splash" to quiet splash nomodeset" I booted into a console, and when running startx i got: fatal error, no screens found. or something like that-. So i changed back to quiet splash". Any Idea???
[21:09] <ThinkT510> sybariten: vbox is in the repo
[21:09] <ubuntu-tester> LeMike: try too boot with it plugged
[21:09] <sybariten> ThinkT510: vbox = virtualbox?  I thought it was an "oracle owned" thing and thus wouldnt end up in ubuntu repos
[21:10] <ThinkT510> sybariten: its gpl, oracle hasn't changed the license
[21:10] <dpurgert> sybariten, it's in the repos :)
[21:10] <dpurgert> I just checked
[21:11] <sybariten> dpurgert: ThinkT510 : alrite! i'll give it a try.
[21:11] <FRO5T> oracle vm virtualbox
[21:11] <sybariten> thanks
[21:11] <Cong> I used the script here and now I lost my menus I think. http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Main_Menu#Menu_Editor
[21:12] <ztgu> escott: Do you have any idea on what that can be?
[21:12] <Cong> How do I recreate them?
[21:13] <TarantulaFudge> Having some issues getting the netinstall to work with my edubuntu cd image extracted onto my web server, when I check the logs it says that the "mirror does not support the specified release (precise)"
[21:14] <sybariten> next question: i havent used ubuntu (graphically) in five years or so. How do i make certain that this fresh install of mine, uses the right drivers for my graphics hardware?  (compaq laptop with AMD Radeon HD 6310 graphics)
[21:14] <ubuntu-tester> Cong: ask at #lubuntu
[21:14] <ikonia> TarantulaFudge: .......does the mirror have that release on it
[21:14] <sybariten> coz it feels kinda ... sloppy. Just a bit.
[21:14] <Cong> ubuntu-tester, there's not one active there.
[21:14] <trijntje> Hi all, to install ubuntu on a system with UEFI I had to switch to legacy bios , but now I can't boot windows OR ubuntu when I re-enable UEFI. How can I fix this?
[21:14] <ikonia> sybariten: it will offer what it things are the best, it's up to you to research what the best are
[21:14] <jhutchins> sybariten: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[21:15] <TarantulaFudge> ikonia: the guide on the net said I could extract my .iso file under /ubuntu/
[21:15] <ikonia> TarantulaFudge: that wasn't the question
[21:15] <sybariten> jhutchins: whaddamilookinfor
[21:15] <TarantulaFudge> ikonia: the iso is edubuntu precise 12.04.1
[21:15] <ikonia> TarantulaFudge: that wasn't the question
[21:16] <jhutchins> sybariten: See what driver it says it's using. It may report trying all of them, it's a mess to wade through.  I don't know if xrandr will report the driver, sometimes you can wade through the sytems settings in the GUI and see it.
[21:16] <ubuntu-tester> Cong: #lxde maybe
[21:16] <sybariten> jhutchins: hmmm ok
[21:17] <jhutchins> TarantulaFudge: What do you mean "extracted"?
[21:17] <ThinkT510> sybariten: lsmod will show you what modules are loaded, the open source driver is used by default
[21:17] <TarantulaFudge> ikonia: its got the release file and stuff I'm not really sure what you mean it is the full DVD iso of edubuntu precise 12.04.1 extracted to /ubuntu/ on my webserver, when I netboot and select my mirror and enter the url it says the release is not supported
[21:17] <ikonia> TarantulaFudge: what "mirror" is it using
[21:17] <jhutchins> ThinkT510: xorg driver is not a kernel module.
[21:18] <LeMike> nope ubuntu-tester . still not there. i opened it at askubuntu http://askubuntu.com/questions/244799/usb2vga-device-not-listed-as-output-device
[21:18] <TarantulaFudge> ikonia: what do you mean by mirror
[21:18] <ThinkT510> jhutchins: the graphics driver will have a kernel module loaded
[21:19] <ikonia> TarantulaFudge: sorry, you shouldn't be doing a netinstall if you don't know what a mirror is
[21:19] <TarantulaFudge> ikonia: the mirror is my webserver with the iso contents... correct???
[21:19] <ikonia> you don't just extract an ISO
[21:19] <ikonia> it needs to have a software repository
[21:19] <cub> is there a way to turn off window preview (when multiple instances of a program are running) in unity and use somethign simpler ?
[21:20] <ThinkT510> cub: changing compiz settings can break unity
[21:20] <ubuntu-tester> LeMike: look in kern.log. was it detected?
[21:20] <cub> didn't ask what would break it
[21:20] <cub> just asked if there is a way
[21:20] <TarantulaFudge> ikonia: am using this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet says I can just extract the disc
[21:20] <cub> a safe way of course
[21:21] <ikonia> extracting the disk is not a mirror - so I don't know why it says that
[21:21] <TarantulaFudge> ikonia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet#From_a_local_server
[21:21] <JakeR5555> hello
[21:21] <ikonia> TarantulaFudge: same response
[21:21] <JakeR5555> sdfzsdf
[21:21] <ikonia> JakeR5555: great contribution, thanks
[21:21] <JakeR5555> thanks...
[21:21] <JakeR5555> is there a way to get unoffical updates for natty ?
[21:22] <TarantulaFudge> ikonia: so I have to download the 25gb mirror?
[21:22] <ikonia> JakeR5555: unofficial ? like what ?
[21:22] <JakeR5555> something which is up to date from the linux comunity ?
[21:22] <JakeR5555> software and patches
[21:22] <sybariten> ThinkT510: jhutchins: on another track -- this "software sources" thing, "additional drivers" tab, is that of any use? it says "this device is using the recommended driver". I htink the open source radio button was chosen, but i also have two proprietary choices.
[21:22] <ikonia> JakeR5555: many people host PPA's and mirrors, find one
[21:22] <JakeR5555> you tell me which one
[21:22] <ikonia> TarantulaFudge: no, just enough to do the install
[21:22] <ikonia> JakeR5555: no
[21:22] <JakeR5555> TELLMMMEEE
[21:22] <ikonia> JakeR5555: you find one from someone you trust
[21:22] <ubuntu-tester> cub: unity switcher has some settings in ccsm. try at your own risk
[21:22] <JakeR5555> i trust you
[21:23] <ikonia> I don't host a natty mirror
[21:23] <ThinkT510> sybariten: use whichever you want, i prefer to stick to the open source drivers
[21:23] <sybariten> ThinkT510: ok so you dont think i can expect a tremendous increase by using propritary? Well i could just try, i suppose....
[21:24] <ubuntu-tester> JakeR5555: try backports repo
[21:24] <sybariten> increase = performance increase
[21:24] <ikonia> if the release is dead, so is back ports
[21:24] <ThinkT510> sybariten: i've never used the proprietary drivers so i couldn't tell you
[21:24] <sybariten> ok
[21:24] <sybariten> thanks
[21:24] <trijntje> TarantulaFudge should probably just have installed apt-cacher on his server
[21:25] <adac> Hi. How can I pause a gif?
[21:25] <ikonia> pause ?
[21:25] <ikonia> it's an image
[21:25] <TarantulaFudge> ikonia: sorry got disconnected
[21:25] <ikonia> no need to apologise
[21:25] <adac> wel stop it at a certain point
[21:25] <adac> ikonia,
[21:25] <ikonia> adac: it's an image
[21:25] <ikonia> adac: you don't "stop it"
[21:26] <TarantulaFudge> ikonia: so there is no way to avoid the 25gb mirror?
[21:26] <ThinkT510> ikonia: maybe he has an animated gif
[21:26] <ubuntu-tester> adac: you mean gif animation i guess
[21:26] <trijntje> TarantulaFudge: what is the goal you are trying to accomplish?
[21:26] <adac> ikonia, animated is a number of pics
[21:26] <adac> as far as I thought
[21:26] <TarantulaFudge> trijntje: just want to do a standard netinstall of edubuntu
[21:26] <ikonia> adac: open it in an image editor and view the frames
[21:26] <TarantulaFudge> trijntje: which works fine on the internet, but having trouble setting up local mirror
[21:27] <trijntje> TarantulaFudge: sure, thats easy, just follow the steps on the cd
[21:27] <LeMike> yee ubuntu-tester . found as USBVGA and recognize when it's unplugged.
[21:27] <trijntje> TarantulaFudge: why do you want to use a local mirror?
[21:28] <TarantulaFudge> trijntje: netinstall from internet of full edubuntu environment is so painfully slow even with tons of bandwidth
[21:28] <ThinkT510> TarantulaFudge: if you've already got the iso then why do a netinstall at all?
[21:29] <TarantulaFudge> trijntje: I was under the impression that there might be a way to just use the disc iso as the "mirror" https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LocalNet#From_a_local_server
[21:29] <trijntje> TarantulaFudge: thats weird, but if you have a ton of bandwith just use the direct iso
[21:29] <TarantulaFudge> ThinkT510: got a lot of machines to install and I've got a working PXE boot to the netinstall
[21:29] <ubuntu-tester> LeMike: pastebin that part +/- 5 lines
[21:30] <trijntje> TarantulaFudge: if you need to install to a lot of machines, you can install apt-cacher on the server and point your isntallations there
[21:31] <trijntje> that way you only have to download each package once. Just be sure to configure apt-cacher to never remove a package, and remove /etc/apt/apt.conf on the installed machines since it wil keep pointing to your apt-cacher
[21:31] <stuffthatspins> i'm having a apt-get -f install failure…
[21:32] <trijntje> stuffthatspins: what is the error?
[21:32] <stuffthatspins> trijntje: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1546779/
[21:33] <LeMike> got it ubuntu-tester http://pastebin.com/Qbj6SP0M
[21:33] <stuffthatspins> that goes on and on trijntje:
[21:33] <TarantulaFudge> trijntje: I don't really have an ubuntu server is that my only option?
[21:34] <ThinkT510> TarantulaFudge: if you want a local mirror you need to host it somewhere
[21:34] <stuffthatspins> then finally http://paste.ubuntu.com/1546783/ trijintje:
[21:34] <trijntje> TarantulaFudge: well, 'server' is a strong term, you can just as easily install apt-cacher on one of the desktops you installed
[21:34] <jhutchins> TarantulaFudge: Any of the boxes can act as a server.
[21:35] <LeMike> 0711:5100 fits to the lsusb listing
[21:35] <TarantulaFudge> I suppose that could work
[21:35] <trijntje> stuffthatspins: where did you get that package? I cant fid it in the repository
[21:36] <stuffthatspins> trijntje: it's from parallels.they've messed my server up…
[21:36] <trijntje> Hi all, to install ubuntu on a system with UEFI I had to switch to legacy bios , but now I can't boot windows OR ubuntu when I re-enable UEFI. How can I fix this?
[21:37] <dpurgert> trijntje, ouch ... you may need to reinstall one or both OSes (don't really know -- UEFI / secure boot isn't something I've had to fight with yet)
[21:37] <jhutchins> stuffthatspins: try aptitude -f install
[21:38] <ThinkT510> !aptitude | jhutchins
[21:38] <ubuntu-tester> LeMike:  the only thing i can suggest is to dive into google results on 'New USB device found, idVendor=0711, idProduct=5100'
[21:39] <mattt_> Is it possible to convert a software raid 0 array to a raid 5 array?
[21:39] <jhutchins> stuffthatspins: All those are parallels packages meant for Ubuntu?
[21:39] <stuffthatspins> jhutchins: yes. they are… i'm getting the same errors trying to remove with aptitude -f install
[21:39] <ubuntu-tester> mattt_: raid5 need more drives
[21:39] <jhutchins>  stuffthatspins Looks like a CAD package or something.
[21:40] <jhutchins> stuffthatspins: that's not really intended as a removal tool.
[21:40] <mattt_> ubuntu-tester: I've got 4
[21:40] <maxmahem> is there a clever way to leave a package installed as is, but mark it as uninstalled?
[21:40] <zequence>  What would be a meaningful channel/mail list to discuss problems with help.ubuntu.com/community, regarding editing privileges (seems like some new accounts can't edit or add pages)?
[21:40] <stuffthatspins> jhutchins: i think it's part of their "site builder" tools. i've tried  sudo dpkg --force-all -P  art-and-photography-pack1
[21:40] <ubuntu-tester> mattt_: oh
[21:40] <jhutchins> stuffthatspins: Check their documentation and see what PHP they recommend/require then try to install that.  If that fails, you can try removing the packages with dpkg.
[21:41] <jhutchins> stuffthatspins: Is this from your hosting provider, or is there a URL for the project?  (AFIK parallels is the osx VM host).
[21:42] <zequence> ..never mind :)
[21:42] <stuffthatspins> jhutchins: it's parallels "plesk" server.
[21:42] <LeMike> i will try. thanks ubuntu-tester ! :)
[21:42] <trijntje> dpurgert: it's ok, I made an image of the whole disk before starting, since I figured secure boot would probably mess things up pretty bad :P
[21:43] <stuffthatspins> trijntje: jhutchins: i just want to force remove packages. i don't care for them. can you recommend? this doesn't work either  sudo dpkg --force-all -P
[21:43] <jhutchins> stuffthatspins: Ah, I see, both are correct.
[21:44] <jhutchins> stuffthatspins: You really need to use their support to fix this, I think it's beyond Debian.  I presume you haven't bought it yet?
[21:44] <jhutchins> stuffthatspins: That's at least the third time today... beyond Ubuntu.
[21:44] <ubuntu-tester> mattt_: seems not for raid0
[21:44] <mattt_> hum
[21:44] <stuffthatspins> jhutchins: funny thing, I am using their support. they can't install their packages because they messed up…
[21:45] <tripelb> I am stuck. I want to overwrite the Ubuntu 11.04 partition. I am booted from the LiveCD. --- OK I need help again. Since 11.04 couldn't display I tries 6.1 but the disk wouldn't boot, so I tried 9.11 which displayed fine so I am going to install it. Now in the partitioner. What I want is to write over the 11.04 installation but I don't see how to do it. I am in "Prepare Disk Space".  I hope someone here is interested in helping me.  (Earlier t
[21:45] <mattt_> the only thing actually on the array is my home dir.. could just pack it up i guess
[21:45] <ThinkT510> tripelb: 9.11?
[21:46] <stuffthatspins> is there a way to "force" package removal? can i remove the package files directly from /var/lib/dpkg/info/ or is that not wise?
[21:47] <dpurgert> tripelb, um ... 9.11 has been EOL for nearly 2 years...
[21:47] <ThinkT510> dpurgert: there is no 9.11
[21:47] <tripelb> Yes ThinkT510 .. Why, earlier version does not tax my hardware. The problem is how to specify - overwrite the existing Ubuntu partition.
[21:48] <dpurgert> ThinkT510, yes huh -- it's called "typo because I need more tea :) "
[21:48] <ThinkT510> tripelb: you mean 9.10, which as has been pointed out is not supported
[21:48] <tripelb> If I had 12.xx it would be the same issue.
[21:49] <ThinkT510> tripelb: to get support here you need to be using a supported release
[21:49] <dpurgert> tripelb, well, if you don't care about the data on the drives, just delete the partitions and start over
[21:50] <ubuntu-tester> tripelb: you can also prepare all partitions in gparted, then just assign them in installer
[21:52] <usr13> tripelb: "11.04 couldn't display" __________?
[21:53] <ThinkT510> usr13: 11.04 is no longer supported either
[21:53] <tripelb> What's going on.
[21:53] <usr13> ThinkT510: Yea, but I'm trying to find out what his issue really is.
[21:54] <tripelb> Nothing happening. Does not say disconnected.
[21:54] <usr13> tripelb: What is  your problem/question?
[21:54] <dpurgert> ... wow ... 8.04 is still going (well, for the server, til april)
[21:54] <usr13> tripelb: If you are installing, why not 12.04 or 12.10?
[21:55] <mjung> Hi. Anyone can give some advise on Intel HD 2000 Graphics GL issues please?
[21:55] <ThinkT510> !lubuntu | tripelb
[21:55] <usr13> !xubuntu | tripelb
[21:57] <hilo> why does my system tell me there are updates when I log on, but then when I run apt-get upgrade, nothing updates.
[21:57] <usr13> hilo: Try sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:58] <borfast> hi everyone. I'm trying to figure out what to do to a user in 12.10 to make it an "administrator". I installed 12.10 on a laptop but something went very wrong and no user was created (I checked /etc/passwd, no user). I booted with the usb disk again, chroot'ed to the partition where ubuntu is installed, added a new user via the command line (uid=1000, gid=1000, just like the regular user created during the installation would have), but now I don't k
[21:58] <borfast> now what else to do to make it be able to use sudo. I know of /etc/sudoers but I also know that it should be possible to do it without modifying that file, because that's how my other laptop is - no reference to my username in there. any clues on how to do it?
[21:59] <usr13> borfast: How many users are there on this system right now?
[21:59] <KI4RO> hilo, Sudo apt-get update
[21:59] <ubuntu-tester> borfast: add user to sudo group
[21:59] <usr13> hilo: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:59] <escott> borfast, add them to the "sudo" group
[22:00] <dpurgert> borfast, should be something like moduser -a -G administrator (or sudo)
[22:00] <KI4RO> hilo, upgrade first then update
[22:00] <dpurgert> KI4RO, I think you have that backwards ...
[22:01] <KI4RO> dpurgert, I hope not...sorry if I do
[22:01] <borfast> any difference between using that moduser command and adduser <user> <group> ?
[22:01] <dpurgert> KI4RO, no worries ... i've done that more than enough myself :)
[22:01] <dpurgert> borfast, um ... I have no idea
[22:01] <elkingrey> Does Ubuntu still have that bug that prevents clean installs with a USB drive?
[22:02] <borfast> I never used moduser, and trying it just says the command wasn't found. I'll try it with adduser...
[22:02] <usr13> borfast: adduser <user> <group> is good
[22:02] <ubuntu-tester> borfast: do adduser
[22:02] <KI4RO> dpurgert, I guess we all have LOL
[22:02] <usr13> borfast: Or just edit the file
[22:03] <ubuntu-tester> usr13: bad habit imo
[22:03] <hilo> usr13, KI4RO, I ran it with sudo, and I always update before upgrade. What else might I be doing wrong
[22:03] <dpurgert> hilo, might need dist-upgrade
[22:03] <usr13> ubuntu-tester: Not really... It's a pretty straight-forward process, you can see at a glance what needs to be done and how it's done.
[22:04] <hilo> dpurgert, 12.04.1
[22:04] <ThinkT510> !dist-upgrade | hilo
[22:05] <usr13> hilo: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade   #Do you get any kind of error when you do this?
[22:05] <borfast> ubuntu-tester, escott, dpurgert, usr13 : adduser worked. cheers guys! :)
[22:05] <ubuntu-tester> usr13: yes, to know things work it's good. but in day-to-day operations it's not
[22:05] <ubuntu-tester> *how things work
[22:06] <hilo> usr13, no it runs fine, but at the end says "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded."
[22:06] <ThinkT510> hilo: like dpurgert said: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:07] <usr13> ubuntu-tester: ...but sometimes we get balled up with a tools that do configurations for us, a little mistake and we're hosed.  You can mess up when you edit the file too, but when you edit the file yourself, you pretty much know what you did and didn't do and how to undo it.
[22:08] <hilo> ThinkT510, dpurgert, usr13, that seems to be the fix... shows quite a bit.
[22:08] <usr13> ubuntu-tester: I don't think it's any big deal either way. (I always just edit the file.)
[22:09] <ubuntu-tester> there's other side. i can explain on ot/pm if you like
[22:10] <usr13> ok
[22:10] <usr13> see my PM
[22:12] <solidoodlesuppor> weird question - computer question on the tip of my tongue
[22:13] <solidoodlesuppor> Intel is replacing some kind of advanced chip set to replace GPU processing
[22:13] <hilo> ThinkT510, dpurgert, usr13, Thanks all
[22:13] <WanderingEnder> !offtopic > solidoodlesuppor
[22:14] <AlexWaters> http://serverfault.com/questions/470454/can-i-svnssh-via-proxy-with-ubuntu-ubuntu-svn-server
[22:16] <sylphie> so did Fanfy end up with a working install of Magic card editor?
[22:16] <dpurgert> nope sylphie ... he had to bail before we got him set up
[22:16] <sylphie> that's too bad
[22:17] <dpurgert> looks like the issue is caused by the installer assuming some other OS -- tries putting the launcher into $HOME/bin (which we don't have)
[22:17] <sylphie> I suppose a $home/bin could be create for the purpose
[22:18] <dpurgert> it's a really quick and easy fix though -- either run the installer as sudo, or fix the path ...
[22:18] <dpurgert> yeah
[22:18] <Starlight_> Why did Oracle buy Java?
[22:18] <sylphie> corporate greed
[22:18] <Starlight_> They want to own and ruin a free programming system?
[22:19] <ThinkT510> !ot | Starlight_
[22:19] <sylphie> but does any distro have a $home/bin?
[22:20] <dpurgert> um
[22:20] <bekks> sylphie: Yes.
[22:20] <sylphie> interesting, that would probably be the distro that package was intended for
[22:20] <bekks> sylphie: In your $home, you can define whatever you want, and add it to your $path as you want it too.
[22:20] <Starlight_> Ok! another question then.. Why is Ubuntu messing around with that sidepanel with icon on it.. I used to love Ubuntu until that update..
[22:21] <ubuntu-tester> Starlight_: it's ot either
[22:21] <ThinkT510> Starlight_: you don't have to use unity, there are other desktop environments
[22:21] <sylphie> bekks, I know you can do that, but which distros come with a $home/bin by default?
[22:21] <bekks> sylphie: There is no need to do that by default, since $home is pretty dynamically
[22:22] <Starlight_> Is that off topic?
[22:23] <Starlight_> What is the topic then.. lol
[22:23] <ThinkT510> Starlight_: this channel is for support issues, not discussion
[22:23] <Starlight_> Hm.. Ok! :-P
[22:24] <dpurgert> so, it's a quick and easy fix to the install script -- it should check if $HOME/bin is there, and maybe create it if not (OT ... but interesting to consider)
[22:26] <trijntje> Hi all, I installed ubuntu 12.10 64 bit on a new win8 laptop, and now I cannot access windows any more
[22:26] <mega1> whats a good email server which will connect to a server and collect the emails and sent them round and connect to AD to get user names
[22:26] <dpurgert> mega1, sendmail?
[22:27] <mega1> is it easy to configer
[22:27] <dpurgert> mega1, not in the least ... but then, I've never seen a mail server that was...
[22:28] <mega1> dpurgert: can i get outlook to connect to it
[22:29] <mega1> dpurgert: or some other email program
[22:29] <dpurgert> mega1, should be able to -- IIRC it does have POP and IMAP connectors ... what're you trying to do though exactly?
[22:29] <bekks> mega1: You can use every MUA to connect to a MDA.
[22:30] <dpurgert> and cue bekks with the complete answer :) haha
[22:31] <mega1> want to do a small network with email server
[22:31] <avatar1978> !ciao
[22:31] <mega1> something like exchange
[22:31] <avatar1978> !list
[22:32] <mega1> but just to do email and file sharing
[22:32] <jilebedev> Hi - anyone have advice on upgrading clamav on Ubuntu 10.04 from v. 0.96.5 to 0.97.6?
[22:32] <trijntje> Hi all, I installed ubuntu 12.10 64 bit on a new win8 laptop, and now I cannot access windows any more. How can I fix this?
[22:32] <sylphie> mega1; microsoft deliberately make exchange not conform to the same set of standards, so maybe it will work
[22:33] <dpurgert> well, file sharing is easy --> just set up a NFS share (permissions and stuff need considered, but that's not the point)
[22:33] <mega1> dont want to use exchange as i can not aforded it
[22:33] <dpurgert> "full" exchange functionality ... well, that might be a little more difficult, though there are probably a number of mail servers that come close
[22:33] <Mathuin> Hi!  I'm trying to use Emacs within Metacity, and C-d is causing all my windows to minimize.  How do I fix this?
[22:34] <jhutchins> mega1: There are groupware servers available, but they're complex and can be difficult.  Most people use integrated components.
[22:35] <jhutchins> mega1: Most common/popular mail servers are sendmail (the original), exim, and postfix.  I think postfix is the easiest to configure, but you really do need to know what you're doing with any of them.
[22:35] <ubuntu-tester> mega1: consider using SOGo (http://www.sogo.nu)
[22:35] <jhutchins> mega1: for pop and imap you can either use the old unix standard servers, or the newer combined dovecot which has some additional sercurity options - but also requires more configuration.
[22:36] <jhutchins> mega1: For centralized contacts, you really have to set up an LDAP server, and that can be pretty complex.
[22:36] <jhutchins> mega1: THere are a number of ways to do calendars.  Usually you do an ical format calendar created by a client then use a webserver to host/share them.
[22:36] <dpurgert> yeah ... "Lightweight" doesn't mean "easy" ... ugh
[22:36] <mega1> jhutchins: we dont need to go that far
[22:37] <mega1> just the email server will do for now
[22:37] <jhutchins> mega1: There are packages for webmail as well, like squirrelmail.
[22:38] <sylphie> postfix is considered safer than sendmail
[22:38] <dpurgert> jhutchins, though, that still sits on top of a proper server (sendmail, etc), yeah?
[22:38] <Mathuin> Bah.  Some gconf magic and I'm back to work.  Thanks!
[22:38] <jilebedev> Hi - if I run apt-get upgrade - how confident should I be in not breaking anything? As in, it seems to want to update a bunch of packages, and I'm worried things would break.
[22:38] <dpurgert> jilebedev, very.
[22:39] <jhutchins> I use postfix+postgrey+dovecot+procmai+spamassassin.
[22:39] <escott> trijntje, did you change your boot mode from efi to bios?
[22:39] <jilebedev> dpurgert: You mean I should be very worried?
[22:39] <jhutchins> dpurgert: squirrelmail needs an MTA (sendmail) + an imap server (imapd, dovecot).
[22:39] <dpurgert> jilebedev, no, you asked how confident you should be in NOT breaking anything
[22:39] <jilebedev> dpurgert: right on. Well, just verifying.
[22:40] <jhutchins> mega1: I've used sendmail, postfix, and exim, and I don't agree with people who say sendmail's harder to configure.
[22:40] <trijntje> escott: yes, ubuntu live usb wouldn't even boot with UEFI enabled
[22:40] <dpurgert> jhutchins, simple enough ... trying to wrap my head around sendmail ... and then will proceed to break everything (thank the FSM for virtual boxes)
[22:40] <jhutchins> mega1: Stories about sendmail being insecure are very outdated and only exist because sendmail goes back to before the internet went public.
[22:41] <jhutchins> dpurgert: http://tldp.org
[22:41] <jhutchins> dpurgert: I've got the sendmail book from O'Reilly as well.
[22:41] <jhutchins> On the other hand, debian defaults to exim4 and has very easy ways to do basic configuration.  Not sure what Ubuntu's setup is.
[22:42] <dpurgert> jhutchins, yeah, I picked that one up.  or well, one of them.
[22:42] <jhutchins> Debian lets you do basic configuration with dpkg.
[22:43] <jhutchins> zimbra is an integrated groupware package that does most of the above.
[22:51] <bitHipy> are there any Ubuntu forks that have the Netflix hacks?
[22:51]  * bitHipy does not what the effort of a wine+netflix hackjob
[22:52] <escott> trijntje, well that was silly. you'll have to switch it back, disable secure boot, remove grub-bios and install grub-efi
[22:52] <Bon-chan> does someone here plays unreal world?
[22:53] <Bon-chan> i've installed but cant remove from ths system
[22:53] <escott> bitHipy, no
[22:53] <bitHipy> escott: bummer!
[23:00] <jhutchins> bitHipy: You are likely to put that effort in whatever way you do it.
[23:01] <jhutchins> bitHipy: "netflix on ubuntu" reurns what looks like a lot of useful google hits.
[23:03] <bitHipy> jhutchins: well i was hoping for a boot CD.. nothing would be easier than that
[23:03] <jhutchins> bitHipy: In fact: http://www.howtogeek.com/130372/how-to-watch-netflix-on-ubuntu-with-the-netflix-desktop-app/
[23:03] <bitHipy> but it looks nasty.. to have to hack wine (recompile it)
[23:04] <sylphie> bithipy; supposedly you can run a playstation emulator and get netflix through that
[23:04] <jhutchins> bitHipy: I don't think so.
[23:04] <bitHipy> jhutchins: ah, but i'm not actually running ubuntu.. forgot to mention that
[23:04] <jhutchins> standard wine + silverlight + windows firefox.
[23:04] <sylphie> bithipy; what are you running?
[23:05] <dpurgert> bitHipy, -- welcome to linux, last bastion of making everything yourself :)
[23:05] <jhutchins> bitHipy: That can be fixed.
[23:05] <bitHipy> sylphie: i'm afraid to say
[23:05] <usr13> jhutchins: silverlight runs on wine?  (Not that I'm a netflicer, just curious.)
[23:05] <bitHipy> debian
[23:05] <Ikline> Running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS as a web server,had a power outage, now it keeps telling me Kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init the next line reads Pid: 1, comm: run-init Not tainted 3.2.0-35-generic #55-Ubuntu
[23:05] <jhutchins> usr13: google "netflix on ubuntu".
[23:06] <usr13> jhutchins: Thanks
[23:06] <sylphie> bithipy; considering debian is the parent of ubuntu, nothing to be ashamed about
[23:06] <bitHipy> jhutchins: everything i've read says wine needs to be modified (apart from the netflix-debian package)
[23:06] <usr13> jhutchins: Cool.  Thanks
[23:07] <bitHipy> sylphie: well the #debian crowd is quite hostile toward ubuntu folks, so I thought it might be mutual
[23:07] <Ikline> Can anyone help with this problem?
[23:08] <dpurgert> Ikline, have you tried an older/known good kernel?
[23:08] <Ikline> I tried every Kernel in the previos kernel list
[23:08] <dpurgert> Ikline, ewww...
[23:08] <dpurgert> maybe something fried
[23:08] <bitHipy> suppose I boot a standard ubuntu CD, and then do "aptitude install netflix-desktop" every time.. will that work?  is that practical?
[23:09] <Ikline> I can access the filesystem from a live cd
[23:09] <jhutchins> According to this, silverlight is now working in wine: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=24783 - but I like the looks of that app.
[23:09] <Ikline> I did a memtest, and everything passed
[23:10] <dpurgert> Ikline, OK, so something in the kernel(s) you've got installed on the system are shot.
[23:10] <Ikline> what's the best way to figure out where the priblem is?
[23:10] <jhutchins> bitHipy: Unfortunately a lot of online howtos have no date associated, and it can be hard to even figure out what version numbers they're talking about.
[23:10] <sylphie> bithipy; that sounds like a lot of effort. running a playstation3 emulator on your debian machine should be simpler
[23:10] <bitHipy> jhutchins: agreed.. how-tos should be dated
[23:11] <dpurgert> Ikline, um ... don't really know the best way about fixing it ... could be as simple as fixing grub ... or as ugly as needing a new install ...
[23:11] <Ikline> Is there a way to install new and keep existing mysql and apache files?
[23:11] <bitHipy> sylphie: perhaps.  i know the Android emulators struggle with netflix, but that may be due to emulating an ARM chip
[23:11] <jhutchins> Ikline: from the live CD, mount proc and dev on the disk filesystem, chroot to it, and re-install init (and maybe the kernel).
[23:11] <bitHipy> sylphie: is the ps3 based on an x86?
[23:12] <beandog> Ikline: boot off a live cd and run a full fsck
[23:12] <beandog> Ikline: back up as much as you can first, though
[23:12] <jhutchins> Ikline: Yeah - restore them from your backup.
[23:12] <sylphie> bithipy; no idea
[23:12] <Ikline> Ok, that sounds promising, beandog: tried to run fsck and it refused.
[23:12] <beandog> Ikline: what'd it say
[23:12] <dpurgert> and then invest in a UPC :)
[23:12] <beandog> Ikline: what filesystem is on there? ext4? xfs? reiser?
[23:12] <jhutchins> You shouldn't run fsck on a mounted filesystem.
[23:12] <Ikline> I dont exactly remember, that was about seventeen forum posts ago :P
[23:13] <dpurgert> *UPS ... I'll come back when I learn how to type
[23:13] <Ikline> it wasnt mounted
[23:13] <beandog> Ikline: okay, well boot off a livecd, and do it while the disk is unmounted
[23:13] <beandog> Ikline: a clean run will say if there's problems or not
[23:13] <jhutchins> Ikline: It matters.
[23:13] <beandog> Ikline: er, a read-only run will say if there's problems or not
[23:14] <jhutchins> beandog: It sounds like it doesn't come up far enough to do it's own fsck.
[23:14] <beandog> that's fine
[23:14] <jhutchins> Ikline: Try fsck again and tell us what it says.
[23:14] <beandog> That's why you don't run it off the hdd
[23:14] <Ikline> will do, give me a few minutes,...
[23:15] <Ikline> I umounted before running fsck, but again, let me try again real quick
[23:15] <morfeo_81> ciao
[23:15] <morfeo_81> hi there
[23:15] <beandog> Ikline: are you booted into a livecd right now or what's the situation
[23:15] <morfeo_81> I have a problem to set a vaiable path on /etc/enviroment/
[23:16] <morfeo_81> some suggestion?
[23:16] <morfeo_81> error not valid identifier
[23:16] <bekks> morfeo_81: Then whats the entry you did there?
[23:17] <Ikline> I am bringing up the lice cd again, i just tried a boot-repair suggestion that did not work
[23:17] <beandog> ook
[23:17] <beandog> ok
[23:18] <dpurgert> morfeo_81, what's the output when you run echo $PATH ?
[23:18] <Ikline> almost there, thank you for helping
[23:18] <Bon-chan> guys, im trying to install debian in a virtualbox disk but im getting a error message

http://paste.ubuntu.com/1547029/
[23:18] <morfeo_81> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1547029/
[23:18] <dpurgert> Bon-chan, what's the error message
[23:18] <Bon-chan> just a sec
[23:18] <Shadow25> wait how does this work im new to this chat
[23:19] <Ikline> Ok, it says: error 2 while executing fsck.LVM2_member for /dev/sda5
[23:19] <bekks> morfeo_81: Why did you enter "~" in line 3?
[23:19] <Bon-chan> dpurgert, http://pastebin.com/JuM9DfaK
[23:19] <morfeo_81> this is the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/1547037/
[23:19] <Shadow25> this is confusing ^_^
[23:20] <beandog> Ikline: oh youve got LVM setup.  I'm not sure how to deal with that one ... it'd show up as something other than /dev/sda5
[23:20] <Shadow25> yep this is confusing
 : I don't use ~
[23:21] <Ikline> ok, maybe that's my problem, I may be running the command incorrectly. I have been trying it as: fsck -t ext4 /dev/sda5
[23:21] <beandog> Ikline: well from that response you got, it's setup as an LVM volume / group.  I'm not quite sure how to get the device name from those.
[23:22] <Ikline> I see. I tried fsck -A to no avail
[23:22] <morfeo_81> I have only two lines http://paste.ubuntu.com/1547045/
[23:22] <usr13> Ikline: I just do    fsck -y /dev/sda5
[23:22] <usr13> Ikline: -y just tells it to fix what it can.
[23:23] <Ikline> usr13: fsck.LVM_member: not found
[23:23] <morfeo_81> Any suggestion?
[23:23] <usr13> Ikline: O
[23:23] <usr13> Ikline: Well, I don't use LVM so...
[23:24] <Ikline> Perhaps I should also mention that I am using RAID
[23:24] <sylphie> IJline; software raid?
[23:24] <usr13> Ikline: I don't know if that matters... well yea, maybe if it is software raid....
[23:24] <beandog> Ikline: run cat /proc/mdstat and see if something shows up
[23:24] <Ikline> RAID 1 - hardware RAID
[23:25] <Ikline> ok
[23:25] <morfeo_81> How can set some new enviroment path?
[23:25] <beandog> Ikline: or you may have /dev/md0 or /dev/md127
[23:25] <morfeo_81> How can set some new enviroment path?
[23:25] <beandog> morfeo_81: PATH="$PATH:/usr/bin/new/path"
[23:25] <beandog> morfeo_81: er "export PATH=$PATH:/foo
[23:25] <beandog> you get the idea. -_-
[23:25] <Ikline> beandog: unused devices: <none>
[23:25] <peugi> is anyone using nvidia-current drivers on precise? I have trouble getting it to work on geforce 635m
[23:26] <beandog> Ikline: yah okay
[23:26] <escott> Ikline, hardware raid or fakeraid?
[23:26] <peugi> nvidia-detector says none
[23:26] <usr13> morfeo_81: You need to add something to your PATH?
[23:26] <Ikline> No md0 or md127
[23:26] <trijntje> escott: I'll try that, thanks
I HAVE THIS ERROR http://paste.ubuntu.com/1547037/ START FORM THIS http://paste.ubuntu.com/1547037/
[23:26] <beandog> Ikline: alright I gotta run, good luck man, just figure out a way to get the raid array assembled (not rebuilt) using mdadm
[23:26] <peugi> i tried to use x-swat ppa to no avail
[23:26] <Ikline> beandog: thanks, have a good one
[23:27] <beandog> Ikline: I'm betting a good fsck will find it and probably fix it.  So don't panic. :)  Just read the docs on how to mount it properly.
[23:27] <Ikline> Sounds good
[23:27] <beandog> good luck
[23:27] <beandog> check out mdadm
[23:27] <morfeo_81> usr13>: yes, but I have some errors after modification of /etc/enviroment
[23:28] <usr13> morfeo_81: So what modification did you do the /etc/environment?
[23:28] <dpurgert> morfeo_81, so, you put in a bad path ... undo it :)
[23:28] <dpurgert> wait
[23:29] <sylphie> So you are running hardware raid 1 (drive mirroring) shouldn't the os see the array as a single disk?
[23:29] <escott> sylphie, Ikline probably doesn't have hardware raid. he has fakeraid
[23:29] <usr13> morfeo_81: For future reference, here is how I add to my PATH:  PATH="$PATH:/opt/gnome/bin"
[23:29] <trijntje> escott: grub-bios does not seem to exist
[23:30] <jonascj> Hi everyone. Does anyone know how one might go about setting up power managements without the whole Gnome-setup? (e.g. using only a simply window manager and the gnome-settings-manager)
[23:30] <dpurgert> usr13, I'm gonna have to steal that ...
[23:30] <escott> trijntje, its called grub-pc
[23:30] <usr13> morfeo_81: ls /home/mauro/bowtie2-2.0.5/
s on my /etc/enviroment I need to change the code write
[23:30] <usr13> dpurgert: Be my guest ;)
[23:31] <sylphie> escott; IKline said " RAID 1 - hardware RAID"
[23:31] <usr13> morfeo_81: ls /opt/Software/bedtools-2.17.0/bin/
[23:31] <usr13> morfeo_81:  Do you get errors?
[23:31] <Ikline> I am running hardware RAID on an IBM ThinkServer
[23:31] <dpurgert> morfeo_81, agreed -- check to make sure the paths you've added to $PATH are good ... maybe you typoed something (e.g. uppercase instead of lowercase, or dash instead of underscore)
[23:32] <morfeo_81> usr13:if i did that I can see my script but i HAVE the error when I write ecport $PATH
[23:32] <trijntje> escott: ok, I removed it and installed grub-efi, what should I do now?
[23:32] <morfeo_81> usr13:like I write above
[23:32] <escott> trijntje, if you disabled secureboot and set it back to efi that will hopefully be enough
[23:32] <morfeo_81> usr13:I don't get error if I use ls
[23:33] <usr13> dpurgert: Actually just   PATH=$PATH:/dir/dir   works
[23:33] <trijntje> escott: ok, i'll try it out, thanks!
[23:33] <dpurgert> usr13, same difference :)
[23:33] <sylphie> IKline; what device is your raid array showing up as?
[23:33] <usr13> morfeo_81: Show us:  $PATH  |pastebinit
[23:34] <EpicCyndaquil> on Ubuntu server, I just chown'd a .pid file in /var/run/, yet this init.d script claims it does not have permissions to write the file. What gives?
[23:34] <trijntje> escott: "No boot device found"
[23:34] <escott> Ikline, thats a real server so you may have a real raid card. Do you know what kind of raid card it is
[23:34] <morfeo_81> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1547037/
[23:34] <usr13> morfeo_81: If it says "No such file or directory" at the end, that is normal.
[23:34] <jrib> EpicCyndaquil: give more context
[23:34] <morfeo_81> usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1547037/
[23:35] <escott> trijntje, what is the output of "sudo parted -l" and can you mount the efi partition and run "tree" on that mountpoint
[23:35] <morfeo_81> usr13:not a valid identifier
[23:35] <morfeo_81> Download as text
[23:35] <dpurgert> morfeo_81, do there happen to be single quotes included in the path?
[23:35] <Ikline> No, i do not know what card it is
[23:35] <escott> Ikline, lscpi should tell you
[23:35] <usr13> morfeo_81: And that is after issuing command export $PATH ?  If so, that is normal.
same result
[23:35] <usr13> morfeo_81: It is not an error.
[23:35] <Ikline> I'm not sure what device it shows up as, I'm currentyly on a live cd, and all I can remember how to do is open garted and look at the dev path
[23:36] <dpurgert> morfeo_81, WAAAAAAI
[23:36] <Ikline> ok, trying lscpi
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[23:36] <usr13> morfeo_81: If all of those paths are correct, (and you want them there), it's ok.
[23:36] <dpurgert> morfeo_81, the first thing -- you have the weird tick at the beginning (the one above tilde) and a single quote at the end ...
[23:36] <dpurgert> s/above/below
[23:37] <Ikline> Ok, I may have been wrong, I only see a SATA controller, no mention of RAID, so it may in fact be software. So basically, now I'm really boned right?
[23:37] <escott> Ikline, this will tell you what the capabilities and kernel driver of the card is http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
[23:37] <Ikline> This server was running fine until the power failure
[23:37] <morfeo_81> ok thanks everybody!!!
[23:38] <trijntje> escott: pastebin.com/qGGq5RKX
[23:38] <EpicCyndaquil> jrib: the init.d script is running as the user I chown'd the pid file to, what more context do I need to give?
[23:38] <escott> Ikline, so there is some bit of intel firmware that together with dmraid (not mdadm) made it look like you had raid. you'll have to load that dmraid driver to get the dm device
[23:38] <Ikline> Hang on, there's some question in the IT department as to whether or not we ever actually RAIDed the system, I am going to check the machine physically, this makes me feel incredibly stupid
[23:39] <escott> trijntje, why is the efi system partition marked grub_bios. did you do that?
[23:39] <jrib> EpicCyndaquil: 1) why are you chowning anything at all?  2) what init script?  3) give full input and output you gave to get your error message
[23:39] <Ikline> Ok, here is the result: apparently we decided not to RAID, just to run regular back up. The hard drive is a solid state drive
[23:40] <EpicCyndaquil> jrib: init script for headphones, a music organizer
[23:40] <escott> trijntje, either you did that or the installer screwed up. in either case the efi partition is trashed you probably have to remake the fat partition on it, and then have both windows and ubuntu reinstall their efi bootloaders to that partition
[23:40] <Ikline> We havent had to touch this server in a very long time
[23:40] <trijntje> escott: the installer prompted me to select the efi partition
[23:40] <jrib> EpicCyndaquil: 1) why are you chowning anything at all?  2) where does the init script come from?  What is it's full path?  If you wrote it yourself, pastebin it.  3) give full input and output you gave to get your error message
[23:40] <jrib> its :/
[23:41] <Ikline> How do I go about reinstalling init?
[23:41] <Ikline> From the live cd?
[23:41] <jrib> Ikline: why do you want to?
[23:42] <Pip> Is there a channel on ubuntu phone?
[23:42] <Ikline> jrib: Running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS as a web server,had a power outage, now it keeps telling me Kernel panic - not syncing: attempted to kill init the next line reads Pid: 1, comm: run-init Not tainted 3.2.0-35-generic #55-Ubuntu
[23:42] <dpurgert> jrib, Ikline had a power outage that killed his server for some reason or other ... seems to be hanging on init somewhere
[23:42] <sylphie> Ikline; the main drive is a ssd and you lost it during a power failure? Is so, the batter backup for the drive might have failed leaving you with no data?
[23:42] <xibalba> if IPv6 is disabled on my ubuntu box, why would the DNS resolve a AAAA record?
[23:43] <usr13> Pip: #1-800-ubuntu-phone   #Sorry,couldn't resisist....:)
[23:43] <xibalba> Jan 18 15:39:56 mta postfix/smtp[13314]: 359EE42D36<EMAIL_ADDRESS>relay=none, delay=5.9, delays=0.03/0.02/5.8/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to mx1.freebsd.org[2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]:25: Network is unreachable)
[23:43] <Ikline> sylphie: I can access the SSD from the live cd just fine
[23:43] <Guest4824> hi
[23:44] <jrib> Ikline: I have no idea what that message means :)  Did you try a different kernel?  Is the output the same?  With recovery mode too?
[23:44] <usr13> Pip: If that's not it, it should be.  (IRC channels need a better sense of humor.)
[23:44] <trijntje> escott: any idea how I can get windows to restore the efi bootloader? Also, what is the proper way to install ubuntnu on an efi system once I get windows back?
[23:44] <Pip> okay
[23:44] <Ikline> jrib: yes, tried every previous kernel in the grub  list
[23:44] <dpurgert> because the DNS server you're asking about mx1.freebsd knows IPV6 (and/or freebsd is all IPV6)
[23:44] <Ikline> same message
[23:44] <usr13> Pip: Actually, I don't think it even exists yet.
[23:44] <sylphie> trijntje; the best way to install any linux is on a seperate drive from windows
[23:45] <usr13> Pip, I'm wrong.  #ubuntu-phone
[23:45] <dpurgert> sylphie, the best way to install linux is by first nuking windows from orbit :)
[23:45] <escott> trijntje, no idea how you ask windows to reinstall its bootloader
[23:45] <Ikline> jrib: also tried fsck, but i dont know how to reference the LVM, so when I use /dev/sda5 (which is the partition I need) it tells me it cant find it, and i tried boot-repair, which freaked out and told me I needed RAID software
[23:46] <dpurgert> escott, full format and reinstall (IIRC ... it's been a while)
[23:46] <trijntje> sylphie: my laptop only has a single disk, so thats not an option
[23:46] <wad> Any of you guys know how to remove the java plugin from my chromium install?
[23:46] <dpurgert> Ikline, try fdisk on /dev/sda then
[23:46] <xibalba> can i disable AAAA record lookups?
[23:46] <xibalba> i have no ipv6 defined, and it's fully disabled but.... :
[23:47] <xibalba> 359EE42D36<EMAIL_ADDRESS>relay=none, delay=5.9, delays=0.03/0.02/5.8/0, dsn=4.4.1, status=deferred (connect to mx1.freebsd.org[2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]:25: Network is unreachable)
[23:47] <dpurgert> wad ... should be apt-get autoremove (whatever the plugin is called) assuming you use apt
[23:47] <sylphie> xibalba; you actually can blacklist ipv6
[23:47] <dpurgert> xibalba, do you own the DNS server?
[23:47] <wad> dpurgert, okay.
[23:47] <Ikline> dpurgert: what command?
[23:47] <xibalba> dpurgert, I have a bind cache setup locally
[23:47] <Ikline> in fdisk
[23:47] <dpurgert> wad -- *used apt to install it
[23:47] <xibalba> looks like ipv6 is enabeld on my bind box
[23:47] <morfeo_81> ok so that's it is incredible
[23:48] <dpurgert> xibalba, might need to config bind9 to stop with the IPV6
[23:48] <usr13> morfeo_81: What?
[23:48] <xibalba> dpurgert, yep doing that now
[23:48] <wad> dpurgert: I set it up a number of months ago. I'd like to change the version, and be able to try different versions. I think when I set it up, I made a symbolic link somewhere, but when I look places that google directs me to, it isn't there.
[23:48] <trijntje> escott: thanks for your help so far. Ill try to restore the efi partition tomorrow
[23:48] <wad> The plugin is installed, I can run applets.
[23:48] <dpurgert> wad .... ew, that's going to be ugly then :|
[23:48] <wad> *sigh*
[23:48] <xibalba> dpurgert, do you know if my local bind is disabled w/ipv6 but i use an upstream that has ipv6 enabled will it filter it out?
[23:48] <dpurgert> try which java
[23:49] <dpurgert> xibalba, uh ...
[23:49] <jrib> Ikline: yeah, I would suggest the fsck as well
 : I have try to substitute the " in this ` and Iost all path..
[23:49] <morfeo_81> forunately I recovered..
[23:49] <Ikline> jrib: I tried fsck, but it tells me fsck.LV2_member: not found
[23:50] <wad> dpurgert, I run a bunch of different versions of java (I'm a java developer), but none of them are ones managed by the OS.
[23:50] <Ikline> I am currently in fdisk, but not sure what fdisk option will help me
[23:50] <usr13> Ikline: YOu mean LVM  or LVM2?
[23:50] <morfeo_81> question: path i can change in the same way only for user in .profile?
[23:50] <min|dvir|us> Can I mount an NTFS partition as /home?
[23:50] <sylphie> IKline; do you have a spare drive to back up the contents to?
[23:50] <wad> dpurgert, I need to manually manage which JDK I'm using. I need to figure out how Chromium uses Java...
[23:50] <Ikline> usr13:lvm2
[23:50] <wad> and how to control it.
[23:50] <dpurgert> wad -- notes to yourself :)
[23:50] <usr13> Ikline: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/problem-running-fsck-on-lvm-642750/
[23:51] <Ikline> sylphie:yes, i already did that, but I cannot access the mysql folder to back up my database
[23:51] <dpurgert> chrome://settings
[23:51] <sylphie> IKline; that mysql db, if it can not be found, may be gone
[23:52] <wad> I'm searching my disk right now, looking for that symbolic link.
[23:52] <wad> I need to learn how chromium works.
[23:52] <dpurgert> wad -- try looking in chrome://settings
[23:52]  * wad looks there
[23:52] <Ikline> sylphie: It is there, I do not own it even as root on the live cd, in order to own it, I would have to chmod or chown it, but I know that the drive is fine, I just need to figure out how to get passed the kernel error, the data is all there
[23:52] <wad> chrome://chrome/settings/
[23:53] <usr13> Ikline: Also see:  http://kyl191.net/2010/11/recovering-vms-when-they-fail-with-disk-errors/
[23:53] <sylphie> IKline; if you have access to the file while under live cd; why can't you sudo chown?
[23:54] <wad> Nothing in any of the chrome menus seem to say anything about java, that I have found.
[23:54] <dpurgert> wad -- check this then http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5962048/how-to-configure-chromes-java-plugin-so-it-uses-an-existing-jdk-in-the-machine
[23:54]  * wad clicks
[23:54] <dpurgert> specifically the answer from Kalyan Akella
[23:54] <Ikline> usr13:THANK YOU!!! I got it via lvscan, ran fsck, it just jumps right to: /dev/mapper/thinkserver-root: clean, 280585/14983168 files, 5374313/59910144 blocks
[23:55] <wad> Oooh, that looks promising.
[23:55] <Ikline> sylphie, I can chown, but I dont need to back up, i need to fix problem. do you just reinstall everytime you have an issue, because I dont
[23:55] <Ikline> I have regular cron backups
[23:56] <sylphie> Ikline; is the problem fixed now?
[23:56] <Ikline> I'm not sure, I dont actually know if fsck did anything other than tell me that the volume is clean
[23:56] <Ikline> i used the -y option
[23:57] <usr13> Ikline: You've prolly got it.
[23:57] <sylphie> Ikline; see if it's fixed and bootable, I guess
[23:57] <Ikline> I'm going to try a reboot and see, thank you everyone, I might be backl in a ew minutes.
[23:57] <usr13> Ikline: When it says it's clean it usuallyy is.
[23:58] <wad> dpurgert, found it!
[23:58] <wad> /home/wad/.mozilla/plugins/
[23:58] <Ikline> usr13: I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the "usually" qualifier :P
[23:58] <dpurgert> xibalba, from what I can see -- yeah, looks like bind will only forward ipv4 if it's got IPV4 forced
[23:58] <usr13> Ikline: One thing I should warn you about.  You shouldn't run fsck on a mounted partition.