[00:00] <Taggnostr> how many space should I give to /? I have a 120GB hd
[00:02] <Sydero> woah xchat looks quite different
[00:02] <Sydero> better
[00:03] <Sydero> thanks florian
[00:03] <florian> Sydero: your welcome!
[00:04] <Sydero> I'm surprised they never made this default
[00:04] <Sydero> for kde
[00:04] <genii> XJman: Not standard installed, but it's there
[00:04] <Taggnostr> I could do 100GB for /home, I don't know how many swap and the rest for /, do you think it is ok?
[00:04] <florian> sydero: me too
[00:04] <florian> Now my thunderbird looks exactly like in windows :-)
[00:04] <Sydero> home should be the rest of your harddrive
[00:05] <XJman> I found it, its under ndiswrapper-common.
[00:05] <Sydero> mine doesn't quite look like it is in windows
[00:05] <Sydero> some of the things like email name above inbox is very bolded
[00:05] <Sydero> maybe it's an issue of changing kde to ms fonts
[00:05] <florian> you have to use tahoma 8pt: http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/2038/thunderbirdba2.png
[00:06] <Sydero> in thunderbird
[00:06] <Sydero> or kde?
[00:06] <florian> kde
[00:06] <Sydero> What are you font settings in kde?
[00:06] <Sydero> all I have is dejavu
[00:07] <florian> Sydero: http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/633/fontsxj5.png
[00:09] <Sydero> hmmm I installed the ms font package and it didn't seem to include tahoma
[00:09] <florian> yes, i copied it from my windows machine :-)
[00:10] <theunixgeek> yay the kubuntu website changed!
[00:10] <theunixgeek> finally!
[00:10] <theunixgeek> it's awesome now
[00:10] <Sydero> What directory do you copy your fonts into?
[00:11] <florian> copy c:\windows\fonts\tahoma.ttf to the /tmp, then use the fontinstallation from the system-settings dialog
[00:11] <Sydero> k thanks
[00:12] <BooVeMan_work> Taggnostr: I usually do double RAM = swap
[00:13] <Taggnostr> so /home = 100GB, swap = 4GB, / = 16GB
[00:14] <BooVeMan_work> Taggnostr: / depends how many stuff you are going to install - if you go for the regular Openoffice, FF, TB, Gimp and some other stuff you should be fine with 20GB
[00:14] <Sydero> If you install a 20 GB game you're screwed
[00:14] <Sydero> :D
[00:14] <Sydero> brb
[00:14] <BooVeMan_work> I use as of now 20GB but I'm a developer so load of fancy stuff hanging around
[00:15] <Taggnostr> I don't think I'll need lot of things
[00:16] <BooVeMan_work> right so go ahead with 100 + 16+4
[00:17] <theunixgeek> Any Kubuntu.org webmasters here?
[00:17] <theunixgeek> http://www.kubuntu.org/tour really needs to be updated
[00:17] <theunixgeek> Remove the link from "discover kde"
[00:17] <theunixgeek> it's still in draft mode and reallly reallllllly old
[00:20] <BooVeMan_work> !adm
[00:20] <BooVeMan_work> !ops
[00:20] <Pici> BooVeMan_work: Whats up?
[00:20] <BooVeMan_work> but these are just channel admins
[00:20] <Pici> Excuse me?
[00:20] <nalioth> BooVeMan_work: can we help you with something?
[00:21] <BooVeMan_work> unixgeek mentions something about problems on kubuntu website - don know if herees anyon who might help
[00:21] <BooVeMan_work> sorry didn't that this will cuase such a strirr - sorry again
[00:22]  * BooVeMan_work won't do that ops thing that again...
[00:23] <theunixgeek> Pici: see above
[00:23] <Pici> I see. I know the ubuntu website has a section on launchpad, I suspect the same thing for the Kubuntu website, try filing a bug.
[00:23] <theunixgeek> Pici: http://www.kubuntu.org/tour really needs to be updated
[00:23] <Pici> And don't do that again unless its a real emergency.
[00:24]  * Taggnostr is killing vista
[00:24] <Sydero> nooooooooooooooooooooo
[00:24] <theunixgeek> Remove the link from "discover kde" - it's still in draft mode and reallly realllllly old
[00:24] <theunixgeek> ok
[00:24] <Pici> theunixgeek: I'm not a kubuntu webmaster, I just get highlighted from ! ops calls.
[00:24] <theunixgeek> oh ok
[00:25] <Sydero> Which is the font setting that controls app titles?
[00:25] <nalioth> ubottu: tell BooVeMan_work about msg the bot
[00:25] <Sydero> nvm
[00:26] <Sydero> *smacks head
[00:26] <florian> I only know the german names :-)
[00:26] <florian> ubottu: tell florian about msg the bot
[00:29] <Sydero> gah my thunderbird still doesn't look right
[00:29] <Sydero> oh well
[00:30] <Sydero> florian, what fonts are you using for thunderbird?
[00:30] <florian> What are your font-settings?
[00:30] <Sydero> the same as yours for kde
[00:30] <florian> I didn't change something in thunderbird
[00:30] <Sydero> in thunderbird I'm using serif, serif, sans-serif, monospace
[00:30] <Sydero> size 16 for proportional and 12 for monospace
[00:31] <florian> just changed the kde-settings, did the gtk-stuff and then it worked. Maybe you have to do the gtk-thing (in the system-settings) each time you changed something?
[00:31] <Sydero> well I did change the standard fonts for firefox
[00:32] <Sydero> under the syste settings thing
[00:32] <Sydero> in GTK fonts
[00:32] <Sydero> Did you say use another font
[00:32] <Sydero> or use my kde fonts
[00:32] <florian> use my KDE fonts in GTK applications
[00:32] <Sydero> ah
[00:33] <Sydero> there we go
[00:33] <Sydero> much much better
[00:33] <Sydero> brb
[00:33] <Sydero> better
[00:33] <Sydero> everything was jumbo sized before
[00:33] <florian> ok :-)
[00:34] <Sydero> thanks
[00:34] <florian> np
[00:35]  * florian goes to bed
[00:35] <florian> bye bye!
[00:35] <Sydero> bye
[00:35] <Taggnostr> vista is gone
[00:35] <Taggnostr> \o/
[00:36] <Sydero> noooooooooooooooooo
[00:36] <anom01y> hi I need help with a digital camera and digikam
[00:37] <anom01y> I have a kodak c330 and a kodak c433, the c330 works with digikam 100%, but the c433 gets detected, but for some reason I cannot see / download any pictures from it
[00:39] <anom01y> question : why would the c433 work in Sidux using Digikam, but not with Kubuntu ?
[00:40] <Sydero> different things loaded up in the kernel
[00:40] <Sydero> or included as modules
[00:40] <zabbadapp> can it be switched into mass storage mode? (if you are not using it like that already)
[00:44] <Taggnostr> lol, kernel panic
[00:44] <Taggnostr> and now?
[00:44] <BooVeMan_work> tell us what you did so far
[00:45] <Taggnostr> I activated the nvidia drivers
[00:45] <BooVeMan_work> in the new isntallatino ?
[00:46] <BooVeMan_work> had that finished and you activated them or is this while isntalling
[00:46] <Taggnostr> there was an icon in the tray that asked me to activate them if I wanted to use 2d/3d accelaration, I did ok, it asked to restart, restarted and now there is the kernel panic
[00:46] <BooVeMan_work> that SHOULD work
[00:46] <Taggnostr> I installed, did the upgrade and activated the drivers
[00:46] <BooVeMan_work> look in launchpad if you find something - I off to home by
[00:46] <Sydero> :D
[00:46] <Sydero> next time don't activate
[00:46] <Sydero> you need better graphics drivers
[00:47] <Taggnostr> how can I fix this now?
[00:47]  * BooVeMan_work leaves the building
[00:47] <Sydero> upgrade drivers
[00:47] <Taggnostr> maybe now it works
[00:48] <Taggnostr> it seems soo
[00:48] <Sydero> get better graphics drivers
[00:48]  * Taggnostr likes autofixing software
[00:48] <Sydero> open up adept
[00:48] <Taggnostr> how?
[00:48] <Sydero> and see if it has any updates
[00:48] <Taggnostr> sudo apt-gey update?
[00:49] <Taggnostr> get*
[00:49] <Sydero> no
[00:49] <Sydero> what kde are you using?
[00:49] <Sydero> it should be under system on the kmenu
[00:49] <Taggnostr> 3.5.9
[00:49] <Taggnostr> I'm in the adept manager
[00:49] <Sydero> good
[00:50] <Sydero> fetch updates
[00:50] <Taggnostr> also there is that window that says that the nvidia drivers are in use
[00:50] <Sydero> then full uprade
[00:50] <BluesKaj> I guess my scripting skills leaves something to be desired , but I misinterpreted a bin/bash that' really a bin/sh. I'm looking for the cmnd that enables the the script to run in init.d
[00:50] <Sydero> upgrade*
[00:50] <Red_Wraith> Hey everyone.
[00:50] <Sydero> hi
[00:50] <Sydero> no roots allowed!
[00:51] <Taggnostr> full upgrade is disabled, but I did the auto-upgrade just before the restart
[00:51] <Sydero> then restart again
[00:51] <Taggnostr> I already restarted
[00:52] <Sydero> hmmm
[00:52] <Taggnostr> installation -> upgrade, driver -> restart -> kernel panic -> restart -> everything seems to work
[00:52] <Sydero> hope for the best ;)
[00:53] <Taggnostr> as long as it works...
[00:53] <Sydero> over time adept will find a new driver
[00:53] <Sydero> when it's released
[01:00] <Taggnostr> where I can find better color schemes?
[01:02] <anom01y> !mplayer
[01:02] <Sydero> ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
[01:02] <Sydero> just use vlc
[01:03] <anom01y> !codecs
[01:03] <Sydero> !vlc
[01:03] <anom01y> Sydero: I've always used mplayer and I like it
[01:03] <Sydero> how dare you!
[01:03] <anom01y> vlc works good too though
[01:04] <zabbadapp> mplayer was faster than vlc (last i had a shoot-out) to play hd-stuff.
[01:12] <Red_Wraith> I've had avi's that would malfunction in vlc and played fine in mplayer.
[01:12] <Red_Wraith> VlC isn't all it's cracked up to be.
[01:12] <Sydero> sure sure
[01:13] <Sydero> never happened to me
[01:25] <anom01y> I have mplayer, but for some reason quite a few video files (flv) do not play properly the video/audio is out of sync
[01:26] <getBoa> anom01y, try vlc
[01:27] <anom01y> I did, it works, but I like mplayer and was wondering why it doesnt play videos properly, is mplayer losing its "ultimate movie player" status ??
[01:30] <Red_Wraith> Well, vlc HAS taken a lot of ground lately.
[01:37] <Sydero> Is there a way to speed graphics performance in linux?
[01:37] <Sydero> for an intel chipset
[01:38] <Sydero> since Windows seems to always perform better graphically
[01:45] <Taggnostr> how can I set konsole to have a transparent background that allows me to see what there is under (and not just the desktop background)?
[01:46] <bazhang> Taggnostr, better to install yakuake
[01:46] <bazhang> !info yakuake
[01:46] <Taggnostr> :O
[01:48] <intelikey> bazhang is yakuake qt dependant ??
[01:50] <intelikey> never mind,  it is.     libqt3-mt (>= 3:3.3.6)
[01:52] <Sydero> Whenever I install something with adept then uninstall
[01:52] <Jucato> intelikey: it's kde dependent
[01:52] <Sydero> it doesn't uninstall the dependencies also
[01:52] <Sydero> is there a way to change this?
[01:53] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get autoremove
[01:53] <Sydero> by itself?
[01:53] <genii> Or with packagename
[01:53] <BluesKaj> copy and paste into a terminal
[01:54] <BluesKaj> no pkgname
[01:54] <intelikey> Jucato yes and thus qt +++      i just installed it to look it over but there must be something i'm missing.   it doesn't seem to start ?
[01:54] <Jucato> when you run it, press F12 to "roll it down"
[01:55] <intelikey> Jucato f2 just beeps at me   so does alt+f2  and shift+f2
[01:56] <intelikey> so maybe it can't function in blackbox
[01:56] <Jucato> F12
[01:56] <Jucato> not F2
[01:56]  * intelikey adjusts glasses
[01:56] <BluesKaj> genii,  no joy with the 'update-rc.d' command , it's still just a pplain ol
[01:56] <BluesKaj> ' text file
[01:57] <Sydero> thanks for the tip BluesKaj
[01:57] <genii> BluesKaj: Is it a bash script?
[01:57] <BluesKaj> Sydero,  np
[01:57] <Sydero> too bad that's not built into adept
[01:57] <BluesKaj> yeah it's #!/bin/sh
[01:58] <BluesKaj> shell script
[01:59] <intelikey> Jucato f12 just beeps at me   so does alt+f12  and shift+f12       "but"   i restarted it and the second run it does roll down an "ugly" black on white bottum up terminal... i suspose that's  yakuake  ?
[01:59] <BluesKaj> i really can't don't understand this prob, cuz the same script worked in gutsy
[01:59] <Jucato> intelikey: bottum up?
[01:59] <Jucato> intelikey: but yeah, that would be yakuake. (and you can change the color scheme of course)
[02:00] <intelikey> yeah   the controls that are normally on top are on the bottom
[02:00] <genii> BluesKaj: If so, put as first line in it: #! /bin/sh or so, else make extension .sh       then sudo chmod +x it. Then to tell system how to start/stop what runlevels etc something like:  sudo update-rc.d /full/path/name start 20 2 3 4 5 . stop 20 0 1 6 .          exactly like with the periods there and so
[02:01] <Jucato> intelikey: well there is no menu bar (File, Edit, etc...) and in KDE's Konsole, tabs and tab controls are at the bottom
[02:02] <intelikey> no i mean the minimize maximize kill buttons  and such
[02:02] <intelikey> window controls
[02:02] <BluesKaj> geez genii , I think the .sh name change did it
[02:02] <leo> hello everyone, just wanna ask coz I install a gui to my server fluxbox how will i run it.. hehe! wat a stupid question?
[02:02] <Jucato> intelikey: there is no "minimize" and "maximize"
[02:02] <intelikey> yes there is
[02:03] <intelikey> in blackbox
[02:03] <Jucato> but yeah the "close" button is there
[02:03] <BluesKaj> brb
[02:03] <Jucato> intelikey: ah well that's blackbox's way probably
[02:03] <intelikey> :)
[02:04] <leo> i install fluxbox in my server, how do i use it?
[02:04]  * genii hands intelikey a coffee
[02:06] <intelikey> Jucato i don't see a colour adjustment ?
[02:06] <intelikey> genii :)
[02:06] <Jucato> intelikey: right-click on the terminal..
[02:07] <Nyle> Jucato, hey!
[02:07] <Nyle> Jucato, i use now kubuntu with kde 3
[02:07] <intelikey> ah under schema
[02:07] <intelikey> ok.
[02:07] <Jucato> intelikey: I don't have yakuake for KDE 3 installed anymore, so I'm not exactly 100% absolutely sure about the settings
[02:07] <Nyle> Jucato, but i want try kde4
[02:07] <intelikey> Jucato yeah it's there i just had to "hunt" for it
[02:08] <Nyle> when can kde4.1 comeout?
[02:08] <Nyle> but not RC 1
[02:08] <Nyle> ?
[02:08] <Jucato> Nyle: KDE 4.1 will be out end of the month
[02:08] <Sydero> 4.1 will come out on the 28th
[02:08] <Nyle> what is today?
[02:08] <Sydero> approximately
[02:08] <Nyle> 1 week
[02:08] <Sydero> today is the 43rd
[02:08] <Nyle> Sydero, which calendar system do you use in your country?
[02:09] <Sydero> :D
[02:09] <Sydero> or you can install 4.1RC
[02:09] <Jucato> Nyle: he was being sarcastic
[02:09] <Sydero> up to you
[02:09] <Nyle> oh
[02:09] <Jucato> Nyle: there's a #kubuntu-kde4 channel btw for KDE 4 help
[02:09] <Nyle> i sm scared to try
[02:09] <Nyle> i wonder it will crash my desktop?
[02:09] <Sydero> k
[02:09] <Sydero> no but it's buggy
[02:09] <Jucato> Nyle: it won't (shouldn't)
[02:09] <Jucato> Sydero: which one?
[02:10] <Sydero> 4.1RC
[02:10] <Nyle> does firefox work ok?
[02:10] <Jucato> nah
[02:10] <Sydero> I had to delete the config files first
[02:10] <Sydero> to fix it
[02:10] <Sydero> I mean after
[02:10] <Jucato> Nyle: it shouldn't be affected
[02:10] <Jucato> so yes, it will work
[02:10] <Nyle> and what happens with ~/.kde?
[02:10] <Nyle> you make a .kde4?
[02:10] <Jucato> Nyle: it will remain ~/.kde
[02:10] <Sydero> no
[02:10] <Sydero> I deleted .kde and .kde4
[02:10] <Nyle> my 3.5.9 settings?
[02:10] <Jucato> a .kde4 will automatically be created for KDE 4
[02:10] <Nyle> i want to keep this
[02:10] <Sydero> well if you want to keep them don't touch it
[02:10] <Nyle> ok good
[02:11] <Jucato> like I said.. #kubuntu-kde4
[02:11] <Nyle> is kde4.1 good enough to use now as a desktop?
[02:11] <Nyle> yet
[02:11] <Sydero> for the most part
[02:11] <Nyle> what is missing still?
[02:11] <Sydero> some things are missin
[02:11] <Sydero> g
[02:11] <Sydero> proper power management
[02:11] <Nyle> ok here is what I like
[02:11] <Nyle> i   will join kde4
[02:15] <BluesKaj> yup genii , that worked...odd that I had renamed it earlier with .sh but it didn't convert . Perhaps deleting recopying it back into init.d made the diff.
[02:16] <genii> BluesKaj: Glad to see it's fixed now
[02:16] <BluesKaj> thx :)
[02:16] <genii> BluesKaj: Anytime :)
[02:16] <BluesKaj> the wonders of scripts ;)
[02:18] <BluesKaj> that script allows me to transfer movies thru ffmpeg to the TiVo with conversion that TiVo sees as playable ...quite amazing really
[02:20] <BluesKaj> wifey asks me to save a movie or tv show and if the hdd in the Tivo begin to get a bit full , I can also transfer the files and store them on this box ...sort of a server i guess
[02:21] <Sydero> just get a bigger harddrive :P
[02:22] <Sydero> Is the quality the same?
[02:22] <Sydero> if it wern't converted?
[02:22] <Sydero> weren't
[02:22] <Sydero> wasn't*
[02:23] <BluesKaj> for the Tivo yeah , but i havent hacked the software enuff to know how to ghost it
[02:23] <BluesKaj> Sydero,  the quality reamins the same ...ffmpeg is a great app
[02:24] <Sydero> So it doesn't convert or compress?
[02:24] <BluesKaj> I just store the tivo stuff as is
[02:24] <Sydero> I don't see why you need ffmpeg then
[02:24] <Sydero> :S
[02:25] <BluesKaj> not for the tivo stored  video , ffmpeg is for avi (divx, xvid etc)
[02:25] <Sydero> ah
[02:26] <BluesKaj> I DL a lot of BBC and CBC TV shows ..all legal , in the public domain
[02:26] <Sydero> but are they legal to copy ;)
[02:26] <Sydero> ?
[02:27] <Sydero> or only view when broadcasted :P
[02:27] <BluesKaj> well, ppl do it here in Canada legally ,,still
[02:28] <genii> For at least the time being
[02:28] <BluesKaj> saving a tv show for later viewing is still legal here
[02:30] <Sydero> if recording a tv show is legal, why isn't it legal to download one off the net?
[02:30] <Sydero> that you might have access to on tv
[02:30] <Sydero> it's kind of stupid
[02:30] <BluesKaj> yeah genii have you seen this ?...http://www.digital-copyright.ca/billc60/
[02:31] <genii> Because the distribution method. TV broadcasters pay to broadcast a show, like radio stations pay royalties etc
[02:31] <Jucato> let's keep legal discussions out
[02:31] <genii> Jucato: OK
[02:31] <Sydero> I guess you're free to record and download and all provided you don't distribute
[02:32] <BluesKaj> does rogers cable bother you about pvrs...last i heard they were pushing them :)
[02:33] <genii> BluesKaj: Yes, at least in my case. But I want to repect Jucato and discuss this in -offtopic if possible
[02:34] <BluesKaj> ok, got carried away :)
[02:51] <Sydero> Is there a way to install firefox nightlies through adept?
[02:52] <l1f7s0s9> wutsup guys
[02:52] <Jucato> Sydero: only if they have a repository for it
[02:53] <Sydero> :/
[02:53] <Sydero> well maybe there's a hidden one I don't know about
[02:54] <Jucato> you'll have to ask them (Firefox people)
[02:54] <Jucato> maybe #firefox
[02:54] <l1f7s0s9> hi guys can i help somebody
[02:55] <Sydero> where's firefox 3.0.1
[02:55] <Sydero> in adept
[02:55] <compilerwriter> Jucato have you ever played with gentoo
[02:56] <Jucato> Sydero: "firefox" package if you're on Hardy
[02:56] <Jucato> compilerwriter: yes
[02:56] <Sydero> it's not 3.0.1
[02:56] <Jucato> !info firefox
[02:56] <Jucato> it's probably not updated yet
[02:56] <l1f7s0s9> sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:56] <l1f7s0s9> xD
[02:57] <Sydero> I already have firefox
[02:57] <Sydero> so wouldn't it be upgrade instead or something
[02:57] <Jucato> Sydero: it will upgrade only if an upgrade is available in the repositories. otherwise it won't
[02:58] <Jucato> (upgrading firefox doesn't work exactly the same way in Linux as in Windows, for security and stability reasons)
[02:58] <Sydero> yeah
[02:58] <Sydero> I don't like it
[02:58] <Sydero> even with security
[02:58] <Jucato> then don't
[02:59] <Sydero> it should allow firefox nightly automatic updates
[02:59]  * Jucato shrugs
[02:59] <Jucato> "should"?
[02:59] <Jucato> if *you* want nightly updates then *you* will have to set it up to do that
[02:59] <Sydero> in firefox, the check for updates is greyed out...
[03:00] <Sydero> :/
[03:00] <genii> Since Ubuntu's normal policy is not to provide beta or unstable software in the usual repositories there will likely never be some system that allows nightlies/trunks
[03:00]  * Jucato sighs...
[03:00] <Sydero> firefox is always stable ;)
[03:00] <Sydero> even as alphas :P
[03:00] <Jucato> right...
[03:00] <genii> Sydero: There was great discussion about including the Beta 5
[03:01] <Sydero> I would have thought there'd be a hidden beta repository
[03:01] <Sydero> that's not enabled by default
[03:01] <Jucato> Sydero: why don't you just ask the firefox people if they have a repository for nightly builds or if they have a way to get nightly builds?
[03:01] <Jucato> why would *Ubuntu* have a "hidden beta repository" for *Firefox*?
[03:01] <Sydero> yeah, I'll just ask my local firefox community....
[03:01] <genii> Sydero: Theres hardy-proposed
[03:02] <Sydero> not just for firefox
[03:02] <genii> Sydero: But use at your own risk
[03:02] <Jucato> there are -backports and -proposed repositories
[03:11] <Daisuke_Laptop> genii> Since Ubuntu's normal policy is not to provide beta or unstable software in the usual repositories there will likely never be some system that allows nightlies/trunks <- PPAs
[03:12] <Daisuke_Laptop> so yeah, not officially sanctioned, but workable
[03:12] <genii> Daisuke_Laptop: Yup
[03:21] <Kraplax> hi there, recently i was here and asked about broken keyboard layout switching
[03:22] <Kraplax> so, if anyone experience this problem - i recommend you to install kkbswitcher package and be happy =)
[03:22] <genii> Kraplax: Glad that you shared your solution in the channel for others :)
[03:23] <Kraplax> yeah, that would help, i suppose. Becuase it was really PITA for me.
[03:24] <genii> Kraplax: This channel is logged so occasionally people search those for solutions not found on the forums
[03:24] <Kraplax> The only thing to remember - first configure your xorg,conf, then disable keyboard layouts in SystemSettings and set up layouts in kkbswitcher =)
[03:56] <anom01y> Hi I have a newb question: what library do I need to install for this error message (trying to compile something) : checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries.
[03:56] <anom01y> I installed libx11-dev but I still get the same error message
[03:56] <jonathan_> #malta
[04:02] <genii> anom01y: On a KDE box?
[04:02] <anom01y> genii: yes
[04:02] <anom01y> I am trying to compile the latest digikam
[04:02] <anom01y> because the one in the repositories installs gphoto2 2.4.0, which doesnt work for my camera
[04:03] <genii> anom01y: Perhaps install kdebase-dev package then
[04:03] <anom01y> so I have to manually compile 2.4.2 (at least I think I do unless I can add something to sources.list to get me gphoto2 2.4.2)
[04:07] <anom01y> genii: if I have compiled and installed (manually) the latest gphoto2, and then I apt-get install digikam, will it overwrite my gphoto2 2.4.2 and replace it with 2.4.0 ? because the latest gphoto2 in apt is 2.4.0 only
[04:07] <anom01y> ?
[04:08] <bob3213243> I'm trying to take a video using cheese but the video end of it is really buggy. is there something else.
[04:08] <genii> anom01y: No idea
[04:18] <paul__> I'm having errors with a broadcom wireless
[04:18] <paul__> anyone with any experience?
[04:18] <paul__> where is everybody?
[04:19] <paul__> broadcosm
[04:19] <paul__> broadcom
[04:19] <paul__> anyone?
[04:19] <genii> !broadcom | paul__
[04:19] <genii> Hmm
[04:22] <dynoll3> allo?
[04:23] <dthacker> !hello | dynoll3
[04:23] <dynoll3> im new so i really dont know how that work
[04:24] <dthacker> dynoll3: ask us a question and we'll do our best to answer.
[04:24] <dynoll3> okay hmm i have a laptop
[04:24] <dynoll3> a xps from dell
[04:25] <dynoll3> and i have a problem with linux (kde and gnome)
[04:25] <dynoll3> my mouse fuck
[04:25] <dthacker> !ohmy | dynoll3
[04:25] <dynoll3> like if the click was always on
[04:25] <dynoll3> sorry
[04:25] <dthacker> :)
[04:25] <dynoll3> i have some problem with my mouse**
[04:26] <dthacker> dynoll3: is it a ps/2 mouse or a USB mouse?
[04:26] <dynoll3> usb
[04:26] <dynoll3> logitech
[04:26] <dynoll3> wireless
[04:27] <dthacker> dynoll3: does it use a usb dongle for the receiver?
[04:27] <genii> dthacker: He has a sstrange way of not answering questions
[04:27] <dthacker> i see.....
[04:27] <dynoll3> okay (im french so i have a bit of difficulty with english) what is dongle?
[04:28] <dthacker> do you have a usb stick that plugs into the usb port and receives the signal from the mouse?
[04:28] <dynoll3> yes
[04:28] <dthacker> Does it have a switch to change channels?
[04:28] <dynoll3> no
[04:29] <dthacker> ok, so changing channels is out.   Have you tried different USB ports, or rebooting with the USB stick plugged in?
[04:30] <dynoll3> ok maybe its the usb port that make sense
[04:30] <dynoll3> but
[04:30] <dynoll3> i think its because of the touchpad (cause when i touch it, the mouse become crazy and go + click everywhere)
[04:31] <dthacker> maybe there is a conflict.  If there is I don't know how to resolve that.
[04:31] <dynoll3> okay
[04:31] <dynoll3> do u know how to desactive the touchpad ( but only on linux jot on windows (because i ahve both))
[04:31] <dynoll3> jot-->not**
[04:33] <dthacker> nope, but you could ask here:https://answers.launchpad.net/
[04:33] <dynoll3> okay ty :D
[04:47] <bob3213243_> ARGH! I can't seem to record a video with my webcam! Cheese keeps bugging out.
[04:48] <media_> help just installed kubuntu and apt-get doesnt find any packages
[04:48] <media_> halp
[04:49] <genii> media_: sudo apt-get update
[04:49] <media_> throw me a bone, anyone noticed google searching has gone to shit, no results!
[04:49] <media_> oh update! ty
[04:49] <genii> np
[04:50] <anom01y> !codecs
[05:06] <daniil> helllo people
[05:06] <daniil> could somebody give me a little hand with a small problem with WINE
[05:06] <daniil> ?
[05:07] <daniil> or is better to ask elsewhere ?
[05:07] <genii> daniil: Best place to enquire is the channel #winehq
[05:07] <daniil> thanks =)
[05:07] <genii> np
[05:16] <jduckett> adsf
[05:17] <jduckett> performed install of OS via debootstrap
[05:17] <jduckett> need to know how to enter wlan0 into network/interfaces manually
[05:18] <jduckett> or is there a CLI tool that will do it for me??
[05:21] <genii> jduckett: auto wlan0                  second line: iface wlan0 inet dhcp                              This is for most cases
[05:21] <mits> hi... suppose i have a 1 line file and i want to copy its contents to clipboard... does anyone know any faster way to do this than cat file and select contents?
[05:22] <genii> jduckett: This is assuming you have it opened with some editor with admin privelege
[05:22] <jduckett> sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[05:22] <genii> jduckett: Yup. When done :qw
[05:24] <jduckett> SIOCSIFADDR: No such device
[05:24] <jduckett> after ifup wlan0
[05:24] <genii> jduckett: Used sudo there?
[05:25] <jduckett> yep
[05:25] <genii> jduckett: Could be you have another wireless device name. Atheros chipset for instance get name ath0
[05:26] <jduckett> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN Network Connection (rev 61)
[05:26] <genii> Not overly familiar with that one.
[05:27] <genii> Some also get eth0 which is weird considering they're not wired
[05:27] <jduckett> ls /dev/wlan  should show something, right??
[05:28] <genii> No. eth0 eth1 wlan0     and so on do not usually appear in there
[05:29] <jduckett> your right, i just checked for all of them. sorry
[05:30] <jduckett> i did an install using debootstrap on a laptop, so, this is a barebones install.
[05:30] <genii> jduckett: Maybe check post 8 here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=396204
[06:06] <scrubb2000> Is there a way to back up a list of packages I have installed so that I can wipe my installation and reinstall the same programs later?
[06:06] <Jucato> dpkg --get-selection (or was it --get-selections)
[06:07] <genii> !clone
[06:07]  * genii sips
[06:07] <Jucato> ah there
[06:07] <Jucato> didn't nkow the twigger
[06:07] <genii> Thank ubottu for factoids :)
[06:07] <scrubb2000> heh heh
[06:07] <scrubb2000> Now if only it could fix my networking problems. =\
[06:10] <scrubb2000> There are about 1000 discussion threads out there about nForce NICs not being able to find DHCP, but none of them seem to have real solutions...they just ask the same questions over and over...
[06:11] <genii> scrubb2000: Is module i2c-nforce2      running?
[06:11] <scrubb2000> Dunno.  What's that do?
[06:11] <genii> scrubb2000: Ismod|grep i2c-nforce2
[06:11] <scrubb2000> I'm in XP right now.
[06:11] <scrubb2000> So I have to cache suggestions for later...
[06:12] <genii> scrubb2000: Ah, OK. But that will check if it's loaded. If just return to prompt then not
[06:12] <genii> scrubb2000: You can add the name to /etc/modules to make it load
[06:13] <posingaspopular> Ismod ?
[06:13] <posingaspopular> shouldn't it be lsmod?
[06:13] <scrubb2000> genii: what does it have to do with networking?
[06:14] <scrubb2000> genii: sorry if that seems terse, but I've beat my head against a wall for weeks on this now.
[06:14] <genii> scrubb2000: The nforce motherboards have an integrated chipset. The nic is only a small part of it
[06:14] <genii> scrubb2000: The driver is for the whole thing
[06:15] <scrubb2000> aha.
[06:16] <genii> I need sleep soon but will return in about 8 hours
[06:16] <scrubb2000> genii: so does it replace forcedeth, or support it, or what?
[06:16] <genii> scrubb2000: Support it, yes
[06:19] <scrubb2000> Anybody else have any suggestions for me?
[06:22] <HaSH> hello all....it seems my sound just stopped working all of a sudden...how can i restart the sound daemon?.
[06:24] <SebNaitsabes> HaSH try
[06:24] <SebNaitsabes> kilall pulseaudio
[06:26] <HaSH> SebNaitsabes: nah that didnt do it.....but i tried /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart and i have sound again
[06:26] <SebNaitsabes> ok good
[06:26] <SebNaitsabes> well I am gone bye
[06:26] <HaSH> cya
[06:30] <anom01y> !codecs
[06:32] <ubuntu_> hello
[06:57] <Taggnostr> !samba
[06:59] <Taggnostr> do I have to do sudo apt-get install smbfs
[06:59] <Taggnostr> if I want to share a dir on the lan and access it with win?
[07:00] <dwidmann> Taggnostr: no, you would need to install samba though
[07:01] <Taggnostr> apt-get install samba?
[07:02] <posingaspopular> Taggnostr: sudo apt-get
[07:02] <posingaspopular> but yes
[07:02] <Taggnostr> ok
[07:05] <Taggnostr> it works \o/
[07:06] <dwidmann> Taggnostr: you would use smbfs if you wanted to mount any samba/windows share in linux like a regular filesystem
[07:07] <Taggnostr> ok
[07:07] <Taggnostr> now I shared it and set it to writable, I see it from win but I can't copy files in it
[07:09] <Taggnostr> do I have to add some user or something?
[07:09] <dwidmann> Taggnostr: you might need to restart samba
[07:10] <dwidmann> probably something like "sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart" or similar
[07:13] <Taggnostr> still the same
[07:14] <dwidmann> Hmm, I'm not sure then (I really haven't used samba in years ... I just remember you have to restart the samba server after every conf change) ... Though, I really need to be getting to bed now, its 2 in the morning ... night all
[07:15] <Taggnostr> ok, thanks anyway
[07:15] <Taggnostr> good night
[07:16] <K`zan> Anyone know where cups keeps printer config data?
[07:17] <K`zan> I have the url I need on another machine, but the *(#*#* cups modify printer routine looses that info :-(.
[07:17] <K`zan> Google is no help ##cups even less, I'm running REAL out of ideas other than to go buy printers for each PC and be done with this CUPS crap </frustration>
[07:19] <justin__> #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:20] <anom01y> how do I get the developement headers for X11 ?
[07:20] <anom01y> !x11
[07:22] <K`zan> Is there anyone anwhere who has a clue about cups rather than just luck?  Other than in the bowels of apple?!?
[07:23] <anom01y> hello?
[07:24] <anom01y> K`zan: use firefox for cups
[07:24] <K`zan> One last desperate try, the windoz solution to most problems :-), reboot the beast.    Received 19 KiB, speed 65 B/s
[07:30] <_2> speed 54 B/s
[07:32] <_2> Received 19 KiB, speed 43 B/s  <<< hehhe the count down continues
[07:33] <_2> so why didn't anyone answer jon the drummer dude ?
[07:34] <Taggnostr> he didn't asked anything
[07:34] <_2> yes he did.  he asked if anyone wanted to help him
[07:35]  * _2 assumes that he was the "linux noob" he refered too
[07:36] <cyj> k
[07:47] <_2> so is google.com under attack right now ?    it's the slowest i have ever seen it.
[07:48] <_2> ah  am i under attack....  O.o
[07:51] <K`zan> Hi Folks, got it to work!  Problem seems to have been using the recommended driver for my printer.  Went back and started at the beginning of the list of choices and the first one worked.  I *did* guess the URL correctly :-).
[07:51] <K`zan> THanks and good night all.
[08:13] <FisherP> I have the same problem as http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=545049 Does anyone know how to fix it?
[08:13] <Taggnostr> from system -> desktop effects I installed compiz, but if I set the effects from there I can't see any difference, do I have to activate something somewhere else?
[08:14] <bazhang> Taggnostr, you have the correct 3d drivers?
[08:14] <Taggnostr> uhm, I deactivated it because I had a couple of kernel panic
[08:16] <Taggnostr> even if it still say "in use"
[08:16] <Agent_bob> Taggnostr so you aren't getting any error message on it ?
[08:17] <Agent_bob> sorry
[08:17] <Agent_bob> FisherP ^
[08:17] <FisherP> yes Agent_bob
[08:17] <Taggnostr> now I deactivated it and it gave an error during the commit or something like that, now it says not in use
[08:17] <Agent_bob> FisherP so you aren't getting any error message on it at all ?
[08:18] <FisherP> well, I'm using kdm and I can log into any user, but the sudo user account
[08:18] <FisherP> IE, i have 4 users
[08:18] <bazhang> Taggnostr, need the 3d drivers for compiz to work
[08:18] <FisherP> one is the super
[08:18] <Taggnostr> yep, but after I selected the driver I had 2 kernel panic
[08:19] <FisherP> now the error that I mainly get is the "bad length in compatmap"
[08:19] <Agent_bob> FisherP drop to the console   login as the admin user   and own your home.     then try it.     command:  sudo chown $USER -R $HOME
[08:20] <bazhang> Taggnostr, how installed and what card
[08:20] <FisherP> u mean drop out of X altogether?
[08:20] <FisherP> and retry
[08:21] <Agent_bob> FisherP you do know how to get to another console and back don't you ?       alt+ctrl+f1   and  alt+f7
[08:21] <FisherP> yes
[08:21] <Agent_bob> yeah
[08:21] <FisherP> i understand
[08:22] <Taggnostr> I installed kubuntu yesterday, at the first start the "hardware drivers" icon (the one with a green board) appeared in the tray, I clicked on it and there was written NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (latest card) and "not in use", I checked the "enabled" checkbox, it installed something and asked me to restart, and there was the kernel panic
[08:22] <FisherP> Agent_bob: yes, now what
[08:22] <Agent_bob> FisherP now test the gui login see if it fixed you
[08:23] <FisherP> kk, I'll have to exit out... if I'm not back Thank you
[08:23] <Taggnostr> I restarted again and everyhing worked, this morning I started the pc again and had another kernel panic, I restarted again and it worked, so I disabled it
[08:23] <Agent_bob> welcome
[08:24] <Agent_bob> fried kernel mc_panics  for lounch
[08:27] <FisherP> Agent_bob: didn't work... off for dinner though
[08:30] <Agent_bob> actually "didn't work" is inaccurate, the fact that the problem persists does not mean that that command didn't work    you have by that command made sure that everything in your home and all it's subdirs is owned by you.   thus it worked just wasn't the issue
[08:31] <Taggnostr> bazhang, any idea?
[08:32] <bazhang> Taggnostr, without the driver compiz is mia
[08:32] <Taggnostr> is there a way to avoid the kernel panic so I can use them?
[08:33] <bazhang> Taggnostr, what card, what driver and how installed (hardy or gutsy)
[08:33] <Agent_bob> FisherP you may have stale server symbolic links or sockets in there.    probably something like  ~/.DCOPserver*  or ~/.kde/cache* ~/.kde/socket*    those can be removed and retest...
[08:34] <Taggnostr> where I can see those things?
[08:35] <bazhang> Taggnostr, lspci in konsole and /etc/X11/xorg.conf in the same place
[08:35] <Agent_bob> Taggnostr  1.  lsb_release -a    2. lspci   3. lshw    4. less /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:36] <Agent_bob> bazhang not trying to confuse.   just expanding the options for information gathering.
[08:36] <Taggnostr> vga compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72M [GeForce Go 7400] (rev al)
[08:36] <bazhang> Agent_bob, thanks :)
[08:37] <Taggnostr> ubuntu hardy 8.04.1
[08:38] <Agent_bob> oh.   and it's generally a good idea to filter "lshw" through less   or use a -C class  switch on it.
[08:39] <Agent_bob> lshw -C display  # for example in this case.
[08:39] <Taggnostr> it said more or less the same things of lspci
[08:40] <Agent_bob>     -multimedia    for sound cards     -network ...
[08:40] <Agent_bob> Taggnostr yeah i generally gives a little more human readable information on the same hardware.
[08:41] <Agent_bob> i/it
[08:41] <Taggnostr> also I'm on a 64bit os
[08:41] <FisherP> Agent_bob: I think there may be a bigger issue at hand
[08:41] <Agent_bob> FisherP i'm all ears
[08:41] <FisherP> let me reboot my machine to see what's gong on
[08:42] <FisherP> a day or so ago i decided to remove old linux kernals
[08:42] <FisherP> from old updates
[08:42] <FisherP> I may have removed one too many :S
[08:42] <Taggnostr> tha about xorg.conf?
[08:42] <FisherP> and I may be running on a safemode
[08:42]  * Agent_bob sujests ls /boot  and make sure you have a kernel
[08:42] <FisherP> kk
[08:43] <FisherP> vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-386
[08:43] <Taggnostr> I can't see nothing interested there
[08:43] <Agent_bob> cool
[08:43] <Taggnostr> interesting*
[08:43] <FisherP> but I can't start any servers.. cups is down, apache is down, everything
[08:43] <FisherP> and removing old kernals is all i did
[08:44] <Agent_bob> FisherP   sudo update-grub
[08:45] <Agent_bob> then have a look in the /boot/grub/menu.lst   make sure there are uncommented lines   with a kernel  vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-386  listed...     and go for your "reboot"  you may be running a kernel you removed
[08:45] <Agent_bob> that might explain why many services are down for the count
[08:46] <FisherP> cat: write error: No space left on device
[08:46] <Agent_bob> mounted readonly  ?
[08:46] <Agent_bob>   mount
[08:46] <FisherP> ran out of space on root... something is wrong
[08:46] <FisherP> df shows 100% used
[08:46] <FisherP> I'll investigate further
[08:46] <Agent_bob> :)  empty the trash   lol
[08:47] <FisherP> lol
[08:47] <Agent_bob> users   ~/.local/trash
[08:48] <FisherP> sudo rm -rf /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.24/
[08:48] <Agent_bob> that's one way to delete a kernel
[08:49] <FisherP> just the source though isn't it
[08:49] <Agent_bob> or at least it's source
[08:49] <FisherP> ahh
[08:49] <FisherP> u see i did that for an NVIDIA driver once
[08:49] <FisherP> i don't need it any more
[08:49] <Agent_bob> yeah   the kernel would be in /boot and it's modules in /lib/modules/$version  by default...
[08:50] <FisherP> still showing 100%
[08:50] <FisherP> used
[08:50] <FisherP> something is wrong
[08:50] <FisherP> after the reboot it was doing a filesystem check
[08:50] <FisherP> you know that one that ubuntu forces every 30 mounts
[08:51] <Agent_bob> FisherP i'd like to see the output of    mount | grep '/ '
[08:51] <FisherP> pastebin time
[08:51] <Agent_bob> should be one line
[08:52] <FisherP> /dev/sda7 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[08:52] <Agent_bob> hmmm shows to be mounted rw      odd
[08:53] <Agent_bob> and    sync;df     shows 100% ?
[08:53] <FisherP> /dev/sda7             20644348  20230296         0 100% /
[08:53] <Agent_bob> add  -h
[08:54] <Agent_bob> that's 20g   if i'm not mistaken
[08:54] <FisherP> no difference
[08:54] <FisherP> yeah
[08:54] <karthik_> hi
[08:54] <karthik_> FisherP
[08:54] <FisherP> hi karthik_
[08:55] <karthik_> Hey I am new to this software
[08:55] <Agent_bob> FisherP   take out the trash.    and maybe  sudo apt-get clean     to clear the package cache
[08:55] <karthik_> what is the discussion about
[08:55] <FisherP> /dev/sda7             20644348  19990992         0 100% /
[08:55] <Agent_bob> !support | karthik_
[08:55] <FisherP> it's making improvements
[08:56] <karthik_> OK
[08:56] <karthik_> could I help you in anyway
[08:56] <FisherP> trash is ~/.Trash right
[08:56] <Agent_bob> FisherP that's 600m free  but showing 0   something is wrong there
[08:56] <FisherP> yes i know
[08:56] <Agent_bob> FisherP no.  ~/.local/
[08:58] <FisherP> kk, well, trash is empty
[08:58] <FisherP> but still 0 available
[08:58] <Agent_bob> FisherP ya got me.     i'm not used to seeing that happen...
[08:59] <FisherP> :S
[08:59] <FisherP> hrm
[08:59]  * Agent_bob usualy speaks agains reboot,  but...
[09:00] <Agent_bob> FisherP you might try it and see if it fscks again.
[09:00] <Agent_bob> out of curiosity,  what fs is that ?     ext3 ?
[09:00] <FisherP> yes
[09:00] <FisherP> ext3
[09:01] <FisherP> how do i do that from grub?
[09:01] <Agent_bob> i had one disk  scsi  that didn't like ext3   i could use ext2 on it but ext3 would always end up hosed...   never did find out exactly why...
[09:02] <FisherP> because it says that if i do it on a mounted system it could cause damage
[09:02] <Agent_bob> FisherP you can use tune2fs to set the mount count to 30  and it will do it for you
[09:02] <FisherP> will it retart the count?
[09:02] <Agent_bob> FisherP yes don't fsck a mounted fs.   not mounted rw at any rate
[09:02] <Agent_bob> yes
[09:04] <FisherP> kk, here goes
[09:04] <FisherP> cya later
[09:04] <Agent_bob> FisherP command is:  sudo tune2fs -C 30 /dev/<device>  # where your device is something like sda5 or something  and note that is capital C
[09:04] <FisherP> yep, worked that out thanks
[09:04] <Agent_bob> ok  np
[09:04] <FisherP> sudo tune2fs -c 30 -i d /dev/sda7
[09:05] <Agent_bob> -i d was not need but...
[09:14] <strog_> how can i change from the Dolphin borwser to the konqueror browser when i want to browse my files?
[09:15] <Agent_bob> !dolphin
[09:17] <martijn81> needs an update to hardy
[09:17] <martijn81> ^
[09:18] <Agent_bob> it's in your hands.    user/community writen and updated
[09:21] <Agent_bob> anyone know what this information means from tune2fs -l  "Filesystem magic number:  0xEF53" ?
[09:24] <Agent_bob> hmmm would you say i should umount and check this fs ???  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d7239c9bd
[09:30] <strog_> how can i get the kubuntu documentation
[09:30] <strog_> for the local machine
[09:32] <Agent_bob> !ubuntudocs
[09:32] <Agent_bob> !ubuntu-docs
[09:32] <Agent_bob> !docs
[09:33] <Agent_bob> strog_  there is also "rute-book" i think it's called with general linux information, can be installed locally via your package manager
[09:35] <Agent_bob> ah the http://rute.2038bug.com site has an updated .tgz
[09:40] <FisherP> Agent_bob: Back
[09:41] <FisherP> I had to use a recovery cd to do a fcsk, it came up clean
[09:44] <Agent_bob> FisherP did it come up full though ?
[09:47] <FisherP> shoot, i didn't look for that
[09:48] <FisherP> I'm trying to find out where all the space is used.
[09:48] <FisherP> trying to use du.
[09:49] <Agent_bob> du -sh /*
[09:49] <Agent_bob> that will put you in the right dir,  then you can follow it on down.
[09:49] <FisherP> i think i know what's happened
[09:49] <FisherP> lol
[09:50] <FisherP> I
[09:50] <FisherP> I've got a backup routine that saves (well it's suppose to) to an external usb hard drive.
[09:51] <FisherP> it must not have mounted and my back ups have been saved to it
[09:51] <strog_> Agent_bob: im talking about the offline help with the help:/kubuntu/ path
[09:52] <Agent_bob> yeah.  that makse sense on the full disk.  but doesn't make sense on the eronious df reports
[09:52] <Agent_bob> strog_ ummm   kde-docs  package ?
[09:52] <FisherP> well, the back up file is 9g
[09:53] <FisherP> and there's a certain amount that's reserved for root
[09:53] <FisherP> which is why... even though there's some space the system says no
[09:53] <FisherP> /dev/sda7             20644348   9457700  10138072  49% /
[09:53]  * FisherP slaps forhead
[09:55] <FisherP> OK, I'll try things again..I'll come back in and let you know what has happened regardless Agent_bob
[09:55] <Agent_bob> FisherP slap my forehead too,  didn't you run df as root also
[09:55] <FisherP> yes
[09:55] <FisherP> no
[09:55] <Agent_bob> then it should.... oh
[09:55] <Agent_bob> ok
[09:55] <FisherP> i didn't do a 'sudo df'
[09:55] <FisherP> lol
[09:55] <Agent_bob> well i thought you did.   sorry
[09:55]  * FisherP slaps Agent_bob's forehead :P
[09:56] <FisherP> np
[09:56] <FisherP> you know how i found it?
 thanks i guess </hmmm>
[09:56] <FisherP> lol
[09:56] <FisherP> kdirstat
[09:56] <FisherP> wonderful invention
[09:57] <Agent_bob> ok go see if you are fixed and i'll get back to strog_
[09:57] <FisherP> :D
[09:57] <Agent_bob> strog_   apt-cache search kde | grep doc
[10:00] <Agent_bob> !info kubuntu-docs
[10:00] <Agent_bob> !info kdebase-doc
[10:02]  * Agent_bob still recomends   rutebook
[10:04] <FisherP> Agent_bob: It's working now :D
[10:04] <Agent_bob> FisherP goodon ya mate
[10:05] <FisherP> ty
[10:06] <FisherP> and thank you again
[10:06] <thomas__> for some reason i cant get my firefox 3.0.1 to be in german.... the find updates buttons are all greyed out, i purged firefox 3 several times now, installed new.... always the same...
[10:06] <Agent_bob> hmmm i'm still debating,  this yakuake terminal could almost talk me into using a gui again.
[10:08] <thefish_> anyone know how to use scheduleworld or my.funambol with kontact?
[10:09] <Agent_bob> i see one thing i don't like about it.  it covers the "toolbar" in blackbox and stays on top of it.   i don't like that.
[10:09] <Agent_bob> kinda nullifies the use of autohiding the toolbar
[10:10] <incorrect> is there a kde version of the ssh-agent auth manager?
[10:11] <incorrect> when you ssh, gnome catches your ssh session, pops up a dialog box and you can authenticate
[10:13] <Agent_bob> incorrect best i can gather ssh-agent is not de specific
[10:14] <incorrect> Agent_bob: i meant ssh-add
[10:14] <incorrect> its not big deal, i just liked the way gnome was catching the ssh and setting up ssh-add for my session for me
[10:16] <Agent_bob> well ssh-agent is a daemon that the gui uses....    i know little about it.   i don't generally use a gui anyway
[10:16] <Agent_bob> maybe someone else knows ?
[10:17]  * PhilRod got here late, and wonders what the original problem was
 is there a kde version of the ssh-agent auth manager?
[10:17] <Agent_bob> s joined #kubuntu
 when you ssh, gnome catches your ssh session, pops up a dialog box and
[10:17] <incorrect> Agent_bob: and i corrected myself
[10:18] <incorrect> phew
[10:18] <Agent_bob> incorrect that was for philpod
[10:18] <Agent_bob> r
[10:18] <incorrect> doh, i am a bit slow
[10:18] <PhilRod> hm, I wonder how it does that
[10:19] <incorrect> it was not really a problem, i just wondered if that feature was there,
[10:19] <PhilRod> I can think of a way of doing it in bash - you alias 'ssh' to a function that checks the output of "ssh-add -l". If the keys aren't there, it runs, er, whatever the gui thing for ssh-add is
[10:21]  * Agent_bob uses ssh a lot, but always in the console.  never mess with a gui hardly.     was just checking out yakuake   is the only reason i had one running now.
[10:22] <PhilRod> function checkssh { if ssh-add -l | grep 'The agent has no identities' > /dev/null; then qt-ssh-askpass (or whatever it's called); fi ssh $@ }
[10:22] <PhilRod> ooh, missed a semicolon
[10:22] <PhilRod> function checkssh { if ssh-add -l | grep 'The agent has no identities' > /dev/null; then qt-ssh-askpass (or whatever it's called); fi; ssh $@ }
[10:22] <PhilRod> then alias ssh=checkssh
[10:24] <Agent_bob> PhilRod -q on the grep saves /dev/null the expense
[10:24] <PhilRod> you probably want to add a check that DISPLAY is set too
[10:24] <PhilRod> Agent_bob: ah, cool - thanks for the tip
[10:24]  * PhilRod usually just finds the first thing that works, and doesn't look any further :-)
[10:24] <Agent_bob> :)
[10:25] <SilentDis> hello :)
[10:27] <Agent_bob> SilentDis
[10:30] <Agent_bob> PhilRod you pretty good with shell scripts ?   i can't see exactly why this one is not accepting input as i want it to.  http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d2f975ee6   it is supposed to accept a key press at any time.   it doesn't exactly work.
[10:31] <Agent_bob> it's some where in the while loop at the bottom but i can't put my fingure on it.
[10:31] <Agent_bob> or anyone for that matter   ?
[10:32] <SilentDis> my shell script-fu is weak and innefective.  sorry :P
[10:33] <Agent_bob> k
[10:40] <Agent_bob> i think i found it.
[10:42] <incorrect> can kmail filter imap?
[10:49] <SilentDis> incorrect: I use kontact with my imap server...  i believe it calls into kmail to handle e-mail.  what exactly are you looking to accomplish?
[10:50] <anethum_a> i am having a problem with the logout, when i click logout, it drops to a black screen (it apparently kills programs and kwin) but i have to kill X myself to make it restart and drop me to the login screen
[10:50] <incorrect> SilentDis: well evolution/thunderbird can filter imap folders without the need for anything server side
[10:51] <anethum_a> (with ctrl+alt+backspace)
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[10:52] <SilentDis> incorrect: *nod* that's how kontact works for me.  does a decent job on removing the spam leftover from the server side spam filters i run :)
[10:52] <anethum_a> this is just a minor annoyance, but i'd like to fix it
[10:52] <anethum_a> hi there
[10:52] <incorrect> SilentDis: i guess i will stick with thunderbird as i can't run anything server side
[10:53] <SilentDis> incorrect: understood.  but kontact does filter client side as well, sorry if i wasn't very clear in my prev. message
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> does anyone have an opinion of frets on fire?
[10:53] <SilentDis> incorrect: I have my server doing some filtering, then kontact usually gets the remainder, and moves stuff to proper imap folders based on rulesets
[10:54] <SilentDis> ActionParsnip: other than it makes me feel inadiquite as a person?  *giggle*
[10:54] <incorrect> ok thanks
[10:54] <SilentDis> ActionParsnip: it's entertaining for a while, then it starts to beat me about the head... just like guitar hero.  lmao
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> SilentDis: haha nice, just browsing some open games
[10:54] <anethum_a> its a fun game in my opinion, could use improvement tho
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> SilentDis: ive had urban terror for a bit now and its getting dull as its my only game
[10:55] <SilentDis> ActionParsnip: try... god what's it called... powman i think?
[10:55] <anethum_a> bleh, i pretty much leave the gaming to consoles now-a-days
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> anethum_a: me too but if i fancy a whirl I can :D
[10:56] <anethum_a> yeah, there are some neat games i'm slightly addicted to: kbreakout and knetwalk come to mind at the moment :)
[10:57] <SilentDis> ActionParsnip: ohhh i know, try frozen bubble and neverball.
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> yeah frozen bubble is nice and tuxracing
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> i just need little distractions while im waiting for junk
[10:58] <anethum_a> i read that valve is porting the source engine to linux...
[10:58] <SilentDis> ActionParsnip: ksudoku wastes a lot of my time... lol
[10:58] <anethum_a> lol
[10:58] <PhilRod> Agent_bob: sorry, was afk. Did you find the problem?
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> SilentDis: hehe you can mess people up if you do the sudoku on the train
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> SilentDis: just write numbers furiously, they'll think you are a genius
[10:58] <anethum_a> haha
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> SilentDis: no one checks. try it
[10:59] <SilentDis> ActionParsnip: lol i'm already pretty bad.  set ksudoku to hard, use no hints, and i still complete in 5-10 min
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> sweet
[10:59] <anethum_a> impressive
[11:00] <SilentDis> just one of those things... once you start wrapping your head around it, it gets easier and easier over time.  the ones in the newspapers that are 'super difficult' are just laughable
[11:01] <PhilRod> if you want a proper challenge from your newspaper, take up cryptic crosswords :-)
[11:01] <anethum_a> if we had source games running natively on linux, not even the occasional thought of 'that other operating system' would cross my mind lol
[11:01] <anethum_a> i would be too busy with headcrab zombies ;)
[11:02] <anethum_a> but, um, anybody got an idea on my problem?
[11:02] <anethum_a> the logout thing i mentioned earlier?
[11:02] <Agent_bob> PhilRod yeah.  thanks the same
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> anethum_a: wassup
[11:03] <anethum_a> when i click logout it apparently kills programs and stuff, but i have to ctrl alt backspace and kill X myself to get it to restart and drop me to the login screen
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> anethum_a: what if you type sudo shutdown -h now
[11:05] <sky_> kubuntu?
[11:05] <anethum_a> what does the -h do? all i want to do is logout of the current user and get to the login screen
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> -h== halt
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> like shutdown
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> oh you just want logout
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> ?
[11:06] <PhilRod> anethum_a: sounds like something isn't getting killed properly. Do you get the same problem if you close everything you can manually, then click on logout?
[11:07] <PhilRod> the other thing you could try is to logout, wait till it goes black, then log in on tty1 and look in ps to see what's still running from your kde session
[11:08] <anethum_a> PhilRod: yeah, i have tried closing out of running programs and stuff, but not *everything* i could have killed myself tho
[11:08] <SilentDis> anethum_a: just a thought... do you have compiz setup?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> i hate compiz
[11:09] <anethum_a> i dont have compiz enabled, but it might still be installed
[11:09] <anethum_a> PhilRod: so i would log in on tty1 and type ps to see what is running?
[11:10] <PhilRod> anethum_a: yes. I'd use 'ps uxww' since that's the magical incantation that usually shows me what I want
[11:10] <PhilRod> (ps is evil evil horrible horrible - NEVER read the man page, if you wish to escape with your life)
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> i use ps -ef
[11:10] <anethum_a> PhilRod: what should i be looking for? anything in particular? or just see if anything is running?
[11:11] <SilentDis> anethum_a: hrm... are you SURE it's not running somewhere on the box?  I use fusion-icon package to switch between the two myself, i had problems with shutdown for a while when i had compiz running... can't remember exactly what i changed to resolve it though, as it was back just after they remerged beryl & compiz
[11:11] <SilentDis> !info fusion-icon | anethum_a
[11:11] <PhilRod> anethum_a: can't think of anything in particular. You could pastebin teh output and we could take a look if you like
[11:13] <anethum_a> im pretty sure (like 90+ %) compiz is not running anywhere
[11:13] <anethum_a> how do i pastebin the output?
[11:13] <SilentDis> anethum_a: ok, that's just the only similar issue i've personally ever had to what you're describing.
[11:14] <anethum_a> oh, ok, yeah i would have considered it as a culprit if had been using it lately but i havent
[11:16] <PhilRod> anethum_a: oh yeah, a little trickier on the console. "ps your-favourite-ps-flags > somefile" then you can open and paste somefile from an X session
[11:16] <PhilRod> s/paste/pastebin/ of course
[11:17] <anethum_a> ok i'll give it a shot real quick. brb
[11:18] <anethum_a> wow of all the wonderful devices on my desk, there's not a pen to be found......lol
[11:19] <anethum_a> ok berb
[11:19] <anethum_a> brb*
[11:22] <anethum_a> ok
[11:22] <anethum_a> so should i send the file to you guys?
[11:23] <PhilRod> !pastebin
[11:24] <anethum_a> ahh, gotcha
[11:24]  * PhilRod advertises 'script' while he's here
[11:24] <PhilRod> useful for this kind of thing in bigger cases
[11:25] <anethum_a> ok so http://paste.ubuntu.com/29263/ is the output after clicking logout, and then logging in to tty1 and typing ps -ef
[11:28] <PhilRod> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/keytouch/+bug/192994
[11:28] <PhilRod> oh, cool
[11:28] <PhilRod> cheers ubottu
[11:29] <Taggnostr> where can I set the compiz effect? from "desktop effects" I can only chose between no/standard/extra/custom effects and nothing else
[11:29] <PhilRod> anethum_a:  scroll down to near teh bottom
[11:29] <PhilRod> Taggnostr: where are you looking? systemsettings in kde 4?
[11:30] <Taggnostr> I found that window in kmenu->system-> desktop effects, there is only a button to install compiz and for radio box to select the effects, I'm on kde 3.5
[11:30] <anethum_a> PhilRod: so keytouch is the culprit? i think i will delete it as i dont even use it anymore
[11:30] <PhilRod> anethum_a: appears to be. What does it do?
[11:31] <anethum_a> lets you use certain multimedia keys on different keyboards or something to that nature
[11:32] <anethum_a> didn't work for me, i have two keys on my laptop that actually use to work but now dont
[11:33] <Taggnostr> from the system setting I can't find a place where to set the effects
[11:33] <PhilRod> yeah, I have nearly everything working on my laptop keyboard, but it's quite fragile - I can't get caps lock to act as control without breaking something else
[11:33] <anethum_a> but thats another problem, lol, i'll see if this has solved my logout problem
[11:34] <PhilRod> Taggnostr: ah, on 3.5 I'm not sure (since that means you have to install compiz and set it up)
[11:34] <PhilRod> !compiz
[11:35] <Taggnostr> let's try there
[11:35] <anethum_a> yeah, i've had pretty good luck with keyboards and stuff, but, apparently somebody decided these two buttons should cease functioning for some reason...ehh brb
[11:35] <anethum_a> am going to try to log out
[11:35] <PhilRod> good luck :-)
[11:35] <Taggnostr> thanks
[11:37] <PhilRod> what news?
[11:38] <anethum_a> hmm...keytouch seems to not want to go away without a fight...i just did another ps -ef in konsole and a 'keytouchd' is running
[11:38] <anethum_a> lemme make sure this program is gone, i'll brb
[11:38] <PhilRod> but did you manage to logout without ctrl+alt+bksp?
[11:39] <anethum_a> nope...keytouch still had its way with the logout process...
[11:39] <PhilRod> ah
[11:39] <PhilRod> better make sure it's gone completely then
[11:39] <anethum_a> yeah, im about to, i'll let you know how it turns out...be back in a min...
[11:40] <orbital_fox> hello channel
[11:40] <orbital_fox> a tiny bit of help
[11:41] <orbital_fox> i switch from ubuntu to kubuntu, basically installed kde from gnome
[11:41] <orbital_fox> i got kde, i can login etc with it, but i have no sound, and i only get the wireless to work using the gnome network manager
[11:42] <orbital_fox> it seems im lacking something like a hardware deamon or something, any ideas?
[11:42] <PhilRod> orbital_fox: for the sound, what apps have you tried? is artsd running?
[11:42] <orbital_fox> sec let me check
[11:42] <orbital_fox> ive not used kde for years, so i really dont remember whats what
[11:42] <orbital_fox> i got kde4 now btw
[11:42] <PhilRod> oh, then artsd shouldn't be running :-)
[11:42]  * PhilRod is stuck in the kde 3 mindset
[11:43] <orbital_fox> yeah its not on the list
[11:45] <orbital_fox> the network manager also doesnt see any of my devices, eth, wireless etc
[11:45] <anethum_a> PhilRod: that seems to have done the trick, i deleted its config stuff and killed those weird keytouchd processes and i just logged out and back in successfully...twice..
[11:45] <orbital_fox> thats why im guessing im missing some hardware daemon or wsomething
[11:46] <anethum_a> PhilRod: thanks a bunch, i figured i was going to be stuck with that pesky problem forever....
[11:46] <PhilRod> no problem. glad it's sorted :-)
[11:47] <PhilRod> orbital_fox: ok, let's stick with sound for now - I'm not so hot on wireless (can barely get my own sorted out)
[11:47] <orbital_fox> okies
[11:47] <PhilRod> orbital_fox: which apps don't play sound? what happens when you try? do they give an error, or appear to be playing but are silent?
[11:47] <orbital_fox> we can look into yours after ;)
[11:48] <orbital_fox> everything plays on silent
[11:49] <PhilRod> which apps in particular?
[11:49] <orbital_fox> flash from firefox, dragonplayer
[11:49] <orbital_fox> the whole desktop pretty much is silent
[11:49] <orbital_fox> i dont seem to have a widget on the bar to control the overall volume either
[11:50] <PhilRod> what about alsamixer in a konsole?
[11:51]  * PhilRod wonders if this is a weird interaction with pulseaudio
[11:51] <orbital_fox> sec let me run it
[11:51] <orbital_fox> alsamixer is running
[11:52] <orbital_fox> shows master threshold at half
[11:54] <orbital_fox> and i think it has the soundcard right there too
[11:55] <PhilRod> hrm
[11:55] <PhilRod> I'm a bit short of ideas
[11:55] <orbital_fox> me too :P
[11:55] <PhilRod> I guess you could try logging out of kde and playing something on the console - see if that works
[11:55] <orbital_fox> it works in gnome
[11:56] <orbital_fox> so its not a general issue, just in kde
[11:56] <orbital_fox> gnome sees my network cards too
[11:57] <PhilRod> did you turn up everything you could see in alsamixer?
[11:57] <orbital_fox> well the outputs are all on pretty much
[11:58] <orbital_fox> im getting a pretty good feeling that i missing some hardware stuff for kde
[11:58] <PhilRod> I have to go to work - sorry I couldn't help
[11:58] <orbital_fox> cause generally my hardware support now is null
[11:58] <PhilRod> hopefully there's someone else around
[11:58] <orbital_fox> no worries mate, thanks alot
[11:58] <orbital_fox> ill hop on to #kde as well
[12:16] <alarico> hi guy
[12:21] <C5188331> chalcedony
[12:38] <alarico> my pc freeze when i use the onda n501hs pc card! what to do?
[12:38] <alarico> i'am using kubuntu 8.04
[12:46] <robinp> what does dmesg say ?
[12:49] <alarico> the pc card is attached at ttyUSB0 and with kppp i can use it easy but during the navigation my pc blocked and i have to turn of my pc
[12:54] <jay__> I am new to ubuntu and think it is awesome so far, free software, free source, it works great dual boot with my windows system and am thinking of coverting to linux, but have a question..
[12:55] <pag> !ask | jay__
[12:56] <jay__> When I originally installed windows and ubuntu, i installed windows first then ubuntu used the rest of the partition, my drive is 160GB and 100 of it is being used by ubuntu and windows but i have another 60GB of space that i dont know where it went, or how to format it to linux, how do i partition the other 60GB in ubuntu?
[12:56] <pag> jay__, install qtparted
[12:57] <jay__> so type "apt-get install qtparted" in the terminal ? sorry i am a noob
[12:57] <pag> jay__, sudo apt-get ...   (or you can also use Adept manager)
[12:58] <jay__> so i have to use the sudo command before everything in the terminal? i tried other linux and did not need the sudo, out of curiosity why is that?
[12:59] <pag> jay__, you have to use sudo infront of those commands that need to do something outside your home directory
[13:00] <Pici> !sudo | jay__ this should explain some things
[13:01] <jay__> I see so sudo = super user does type thing, i like that because it asks me for a PW before anything is installed
[13:02] <jay__> everything installs so easy also, easier then windows, finding and downloading software is very easy lol
[13:02] <jay__> no torrents, no adware, no having to google where to find the software just apt-get it
[13:05] <jay__> ok i must have spoke to early lol - i used sudo apt-get install qtparted and when trying to run it from the ubuntu gui it says error: failed to execute child process qtparted root , no such file or directory
[13:06] <jay__> and thanks for your help so far
[13:06] <jay__> :)
[13:06] <pag> jay__, are you using Gnome or KDE?
[13:07] <jay__> how do i check?
[13:07] <spiongraz> when you start ubuntu
[13:07] <jay__> as far i a know it is just the Ubuntu gui
[13:07] <spiongraz> you have a splashscreen that says ubuntu or kubuntu
[13:07] <jay__> default
[13:07] <jay__> ubuntu
[13:07] <spiongraz> install gparted then
[13:08] <jay__> will try right now thanks
[13:09] <jay__> says gparted is allready the newest version, but dont see it in my system tools when i click applications
[13:10] <Pici> Try pressing alt+f2 and then typing gksudo gparted
[13:10] <pag> jay__, (btw. it should be found somewhere under system menu by the name 'disc managment' or similiar)
[13:11] <Pici> Also, the Ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu , this channel is mainly for KDE and Kubuntu issues.
[13:11] <jay__> how do i get rid of the non working qtparted program?
[13:12] <pag> jay__, sudo apt-get remove --purge qtparted
[13:12] <jay__> oh i see, it brought me here automatically with my new irc client (koversation)
[13:20] <orion> does anyone know how to install drivers for wg111v3 wireless dongle in kubuntu
[13:22] <ere4si> !wireless
[13:24] <Assurbanipal> hi everyone!
[13:25] <lesergi> hello
[13:25] <lesergi> I have to install Kubuntu in computer without internet
[13:25] <lesergi> can I download Kubuntu DVD?
[13:25] <orion> thankyou will check it out
[13:26] <lesergi> I'll respone myself
[13:26] <lesergi> http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/releases/hardy/release/
[13:26] <lesergi> I'll install i386 version on AMD64, I think no-problems...
[13:27] <lesergi> amd64 version maybe some problems
[13:43] <Nyad> Hi, I'm having trouble renaming directories and files via the command line, I'm trying to rename dir a to O'Reilly Books  so I typed, $ rename a O'Reilly Books   and nothing is working
[13:44] <pag> mv a "O'Reilly Books"   should do the trick
[13:45] <alt_ctrl> hi guys a i have a big problem
[13:45] <Nyad> thanks, that's a good idea. but how come rename didn't work? I'm just curious
[13:45] <Jucato> Nyad: if you have spaces in file or folder names, you need to enclose the whole name in " "
[13:45] <alt_ctrl> i started to upgrade my laptop to hardy but it stopped in themiddle or somewehre there
[13:45] <Jucato> Nyad: because Linux treats: My Documents as 2 things: "My" and "Documents"
[13:45] <pag> Nyad, rename is not a command
[13:46] <alt_ctrl> no i have a hardy to log in but no internet network and who knows what else
[13:46] <Jucato> oh right...
[13:46] <Jucato> haha missed that one :)
[13:46] <Pici> rename is a command.
[13:46] <alt_ctrl> so now i am on this live cd clueless what to do
[13:46] <Pici> But its probably easier to use mv instead.
[13:46] <alt_ctrl> any idea sugestions?
[13:47] <esther> hola
[13:47] <alt_ctrl> how to finish my upgrade?
[13:48] <alt_ctrl> anyone? i was doing the upgrade thru the adept manager
[13:49] <alt_ctrl> now this live cd wants to install it as a seperate op system instead to finish the upgrade i started...
[13:49] <pag> alt_ctrl, did I get you right – you have no working internet on that computer?
[13:50] <alt_ctrl> i am on that computer but from a live cd i burnt
[13:50] <Nyad> alt_ctrl, when I download updates and they crash I usually just restart the upgrade and it picks up where it left off, so maybe it will do the same for you, but I'm not really sure
[13:50] <alt_ctrl> but wheni log on cause i can log in no netweork
[13:50] <alt_ctrl> yes but no internet... so its hard to go on and do it
[13:51] <alt_ctrl> i was thinking this cd will haveeverything it needs but i dont seem to be able to continue..
[13:51] <pag> alt_ctrl, well I can say, how I would do it, but I won't be able to guide you through it--- Personally I'd chroot into existing installation and updtate with command-line tools
[13:52] <alt_ctrl> from here the live cd?
[13:53] <mauricio_> please, where can i find best information to setup my AUDIGY SE sound card in KDE4 with surround40?
[13:53] <pag> alt_ctrl, yup. in short: you'll have to mount the root partition of your installation -> chroot to it (sudo chroot /mount/point) -> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:54] <bazhang> #kubuntu-kde4 mauricio_
[13:55] <alt_ctrl> would it work? what do ineed to do what commands? i canstart the terminal then what? i can do and tell you what i get back..
[13:55] <pag> alt_ctrl, I will have to go in a moment, but until then I'll try to guide you as well as I can :)
[13:55] <alt_ctrl> right now i only got ubuntu@ubuntu at the terminal
[13:55] <mauricio_> bazhang: nobody help me there and neigther #ubuntustudio or ##linuxaudio or #audio4linux,de or #pulseaudio
[13:56] <alt_ctrl> well if we can get it started i guess it owuld be ok
[13:56] <mauricio_> very dificult to solve my problem
[13:56] <alt_ctrl> at least as long as it have intenet connection
[13:56] <pag> alt_ctrl, which device is your root partition (if you don't know, then pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l)
[13:58] <alt_ctrl> well i typed sudo fdisk -| but nothing...
[13:58] <Pici> its -l not -|
[13:58] <Pici> As in a lowercase L
[13:58] <alt_ctrl> ok
[13:59] <alt_ctrl> what's pastebin?
[13:59] <pag> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[14:00] <alt_ctrl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/29299/
[14:00] <pag> alt_ctrl, do: sudo mkdir /ubu ; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /ubu
[14:01] <alt_ctrl> ok one sec
[14:01] <alt_ctrl> done it
[14:02] <pag> alt_ctrl, try " ls /ubu "  it should return a list of directories like etc bin  and so on.
[14:02] <alt_ctrl> yes it did
[14:02] <pag> alt_ctrl, in that case: sudo chroot /ubu
[14:03] <root> see
[14:03] <alt_ctrl> ok i am root@ubuntu now
[14:03] <pag> alt_ctrl, ' sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ' ;)
[14:03] <pag> alt_ctrl, if it returns errors, pastebin them
[14:04] <alt_ctrl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/29300/
[14:04] <pag> alt_ctrl, do as it says: " dpkg --configure -a "
[14:05] <alt_ctrl> bash: dkpg: command not found
[14:06] <pag> alt_ctrl, dpkg  not dkpg ;)
[14:06] <alt_ctrl> ok sorry:)
[14:06] <alt_ctrl> now its doing something
[14:06] <alt_ctrl> settinh up this and that
[14:07] <pag> alt_ctrl, yup. it should :)
[14:07] <alt_ctrl> so what's next when it finishes?
[14:08] <pag> alt_ctrl, as long as it doen't return errors, you'll be fine. when it finishes do ' sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ' again
[14:08] <alt_ctrl> i rememebr the upgrade crashed at locale en au or something like that it jsut stopped
[14:08] <alt_ctrl> now it setting up locales... the en ones
[14:08] <alt_ctrl> went over
[14:09] <Assurbanipal> hi guys, is there a program in Linux to check and correct hard disk errors?
[14:09] <alt_ctrl> how long should this one take?
[14:09] <Pici> !fsck
[14:10] <histo> Assurbanipal: ^^^^^^^
[14:10] <pag> alt_ctrl, up from couple of minutes – depends on your hardware
[14:10] <alt_ctrl>  its going steady more or less
[14:11] <alt_ctrl> now doing something with the flash player...
[14:13] <alt_ctrl> its going all right
[14:13] <Assurbanipal> is there something like fsck in KDE graphical environmen, i am not familiar with konsole..
[14:14] <Assurbanipal> i need to repair a hard disk that gives a read/wright error causing system to freeze
[14:14] <pag> alt_ctrl, I've got to go now, good luck with it :-)
[14:15] <alt_ctrl> and after that command jsut nothgn?
[14:15] <alt_ctrl> take the cd out and log in?
[14:15] <alt_ctrl> or do i have to do something with the ubu directory we created?
[14:16] <alt_ctrl> anyone was following my upgrade and can pick up for pag?
[14:23] <BooVeMan_work> alt_ctrl: wher are you now
[14:25] <alt_ctrl> well is done
[14:25] <alt_ctrl> and i did the upgrade
[14:25] <alt_ctrl> the last sentence is
[14:26] <alt_ctrl> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[14:27] <alt_ctrl> but it did it fow a while
[14:27] <alt_ctrl> the last section:
[14:27] <genii> !pastebin
[14:28] <alt_ctrl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/29302/
[14:29] <alt_ctrl> there were a bunch of errors like that before
[14:29] <BluesKaj> howdy
[14:30] <genii> Hi BluesKaj
[14:31] <BluesKaj> 'morning genii , how's things ?
[14:31] <genii> BluesKaj: Not bad, settling in at work.
[14:32] <Taggnostr> does kubuntu have an ftp client?
[14:32] <Githzerai> Taggnostr: yes, Konqueror. ftp:/
[14:32] <alt_ctrl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/29303/
[14:32] <Taggnostr> can I also use it to upload files?
[14:32] <alt_ctrl> this is the full list after the dist upagrade command
[14:33] <alt_ctrl> what does it tell you?
[14:33] <Githzerai> Taggnostr: as any ftp client, even easier as it feels like using regular folders on HD ;)
[14:33] <alt_ctrl> lots of dependency prolems and dpkg errors
[14:33] <Taggnostr> great
[14:35] <alt_ctrl> what to do now?
[14:38] <BooVeMan_work> ok try to re-run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:40] <rav> hello. I just noticed there's a Public folder in my home directory. I installed smb4k, does it have anything to do with that?
[14:41] <BooVeMan_work> if you don't want that comment the homes section in smb-conf
[14:43] <rav> but I don't see any shares of my computer from other computers on the network
[14:44] <BooVeMan_work> so it seems to be commented...
[14:45] <rav> also, there's an empty Templates directory. is that also from smb4k?
[14:45] <alt_ctrl> well i did it twice same thing again
[14:46] <Assurbanipal> is there a utility with a graphic interface to check disk for errors in kubuntu???
[14:49] <genii> alt_ctrl: Perhaps: sudo dpkg -i --force-install /var/cache/apt/archives/console-setup_1.21ubuntu8_all.deb
[14:49] <BooVeMan_work> Assurbanipal: don't think so
[14:50] <genii> Since it seems to be the problemmatic one causing the chain reaction
[14:50] <Assurbanipal> unfortunately i am not used to be using the konsole
[14:50] <alt_ctrl> well after the command i get this
[14:51] <alt_ctrl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/29309/
[14:51] <alt_ctrl> saying that nothing will be done if u understan it correctly
[14:52] <BooVeMan_work> no say Y and it will proceed
[14:52] <alt_ctrl> after i say yes it takes like 5 seconds to give me that i jsut pasted 29303
[14:53] <alt_ctrl> so genii jsut type all that line with archives init?
[14:54] <genii> alt_ctrl: Your previous paste at http://paste.ubuntu.com/29303/ indicates in lines 13 through 19 that console-setup not being installed is causing a chain reaction of other apps not being able to get installed. So the command i provided forces it to install if it's possible to do so.
[14:54] <alt_ctrl> ok i try it
[14:55] <alt_ctrl> it di dnot work
[14:55] <alt_ctrl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/29310/
[14:55] <BooVeMan_work> alt_ctrl: output?
[14:59] <alt_ctrl> what does it mean?
[15:00] <genii> back
[15:00] <genii> alt_ctrl: Reading, 1 minute
[15:00] <alt_ctrl> ok
[15:02] <genii> Ah. Try --force-all    then
[15:03] <alt_ctrl> instead install use force or what?
[15:03] <alt_ctrl> i mean all
[15:03] <genii> alt_ctrl: sudo dpkg -i --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/console-setup_1.21ubuntu8_all.deb
[15:03] <genii> eg
[15:04] <alt_ctrl> ok
[15:04] <alt_ctrl> again errors with console setup
[15:05] <genii> alt_ctrl: Did you use some method like debbootstrap to get a minimal system on?
[15:05] <genii> alt_ctrl: Pastebin exact messages please
[15:05] <alt_ctrl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/29311/
[15:06] <genii> alt_ctrl: That error is fine. It just means the thing is already running so it can't start it, another instance is already up
[15:06] <alt_ctrl> no i just used the adept manager
[15:06] <alt_ctrl> and it stopped
[15:07] <alt_ctrl> but when i log in i have not netwrok for example and who knows what else
[15:07] <alt_ctrl> so now i am on this live cd and can have intenret but not the halfway done hardy aupgrade
[15:08] <alt_ctrl> what i need is jsut to continue it from where it left
[15:08] <alt_ctrl> locales english au
[15:08] <alt_ctrl> that's what the last line was
[15:08] <alt_ctrl> while it was doing the upgrade...
[15:09] <SilentDis> !dvd
[15:09] <alt_ctrl> and now i cant restart adept from the hard drive becasue when ilog in no netwrok...
[15:09] <SilentDis> hrm... is there a .torrent out there for a DVD release of kubuntu 8.04.1?
[15:09] <alt_ctrl> i am screwed i made this live cd and trying to get my upgrade finished
[15:10] <genii> alt_ctrl: Ah. Yes, there can be some nasty errors when it has locales other than US english for some reason
[15:10] <genii> alt_ctrl: You on livecd of same box right now?
[15:10] <alt_ctrl> yes
[15:10] <genii> alt_ctrl: Good. Do you know of chroot?
[15:11] <alt_ctrl> well we did that before with pag eralier
[15:11] <alt_ctrl> yes
[15:11] <alt_ctrl> buit i dont know what it is jsut typed what he said
[15:11] <alt_ctrl> but now i have to leave for about an hour
[15:11] <cr0w_> hi
[15:11] <cr0w_> ^^
[15:11] <genii> alt_ctrl: The idea here would be to copy some network settings from working livecd, then chroot to the old root partition and see if we can get upgrade to finish
[15:12] <alt_ctrl> alt_ctrl, yup. in short: you'll have to mount the root partition of your installation -> chroot to it (sudo chroot /mount/point) -> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:12] <genii> alt_ctrl: I'll be here for another 6-6.5 hours so return later then
[15:12] <alt_ctrl> this is what we did
[15:12] <alt_ctrl> ok bye
[15:19] <rand_acs> !kde4.1
[15:20] <genii> !kde4
[15:22] <Githzerai> rand_acs: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1rc1
[15:23] <Githzerai> someone should update those factoids more often...
[15:24] <genii> Githzerai: PErhaps mention it in #ubuntu-ops ....thats where they generally do it
[15:27] <rand_acs> Githzerai: thanks man :)
[15:28] <rand_acs> Githzerai: my lappy have kubuntu on and only 4.0.5, 4.1 is on my opensuse desktop and pretty cool
[15:29] <Githzerai> rand_acs: U should try 4.1 on kubuntu also. But let's not go offtopic ;)
[15:29] <rand_acs> hehe :)
[15:30] <rand_acs> yeah 4.1 is going to be great once it's stable
[15:30] <rand_acs> but even now I'm not really running into issues
[15:56] <ezequiel> hi
[15:57] <SebNaitsabes> hi
[15:57] <engineer> ih
[15:58] <ezequiel> i am new using GNU/linux
[15:58] <SebNaitsabes> yep
[15:58] <engineer> nice
[15:58] <SebNaitsabes> and what do you want to know?
[15:58] <SebNaitsabes> and yep nice
[15:58] <engineer> i'm a bit old myself
[15:58] <engineer> but nevermind
[15:59] <ezequiel> how to lern more about it
[16:00] <SebNaitsabes> oh right yeah
[16:00] <engineer> i suggest you learn about bash
[16:00] <engineer> and how it works
[16:00] <bazhang> !docs
[16:00] <engineer> run levels
[16:00] <ezequiel> my operative sistem becomes faster when
[16:00] <engineer> the linux file system
[16:01] <josef_> guys my knetworkmanager icon doesnt not show in my systemtray in the corner
[16:01] <engineer> knetworkmanager &
[16:04] <josef_> engineer,  should i type in console or what
[16:04] <engineer> what, type that in Konsole
[16:04] <josef_> engineer, ok wait
[16:04] <engineer> wait for who? or for what?
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> Huh?
[16:06] <josef_> engineer, got this comming out [1] 7383
[16:07] <engineer> is it running now?
[16:07] <strog_> when i open a folder, Dolphin starts. how can i change this to konqoueror?
[16:07] <engineer> uninstall dolphin
[16:07] <strog_> that is it?
[16:07] <josef_> engineer, yes but it doesnt show in the systemtray
[16:07] <engineer> log off and re login
[16:07] <engineer> i get that all the time
[16:07] <engineer> yes strog_
[16:07] <engineer> or use kde 4
[16:08] <strog_> ok danke
[16:08] <strog_> thanks
[16:08] <engineer> bitte
[16:08] <josef_> engineer, ok thanx
[16:08] <josef_> danke her engineer
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> you can easially set the efaul file manager,
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> no need to remove dolphin
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> !dolphin
[16:10] <engineer> dolphin is buggy
[16:10] <engineer> at least in kde4 it is
[16:18] <oscar__> jh
[16:19] <engineer> hey argentina
[16:31] <thomas__> hi, does anyone know a good application to set up a PPPoE connection from laptop to modem?
[16:32] <Dr_Willis> !pppoe
[16:32] <thomas__> thanx
[16:33] <zarlino> i heard that intrepid will ship kde4.1 by default
[16:34] <zarlino> is there a way to keep kde3.5?
[16:35] <Jucato> zarlino: KDE 3.5 will still be available
[16:35] <pag> zarlino, ship by default != is the only option  (at least that is what I hope)
[16:35] <maestro> any russian here?
[16:35] <zarlino> Jucato: but what will dist-upgrade do?
[16:35] <Jucato> !ru | maestro
[16:35] <maestro> :)
[16:35] <zarlino> Jucato: will it automatically update to kde4?
[16:36] <Jucato> zarlino: I believe that's still under discussion. Hopefully the upgrade path will be non-destructive :)
[16:36] <zarlino> zarlino: yeah i hope so
[16:36] <Jucato> zarlino: maybe the people in #kubuntu-kde4 have a better idea
[16:36] <Jucato> zarlino: talking to yourself? :)
[16:36] <zarlino> Jucato: ahahah sorry
[16:36] <ezequiel> hi want to learn how work ubuntu
[16:36] <zarlino> Jucato: didn't know about that channel thanks
[16:38] <SebNaitsabes> esequiel:
[16:38] <SebNaitsabes> ezequiel: reply to my private message
[16:40] <zarlino> Jucato: FYI, they say that i sould stay on hardy if i want to keep kde3...
[16:41] <Jucato> zarlino: hm. ok... I'll try to ask about that in the next meeting
[16:43] <SebNaitsabes> !es
[16:45] <uNDEAD_m0NKEY> hi there, how do i install Opera browser in Kubuntu HH
[16:45] <engineer> download it from their site
[16:45] <smorr> Opera browser mac
[16:45] <smorr> ?
[16:46] <genii> !opera
[16:46] <maestro_> help please!
[16:46] <engineer> call 911
[16:46] <genii> !ask | maestro_
[16:47] <maestro_> How can I register my nickname?
[16:47] <genii> !register
[16:47] <maestro_> hm...
[16:47]  * genii sips his coffee and enjoys the factoids
[16:48] <maestro_> my old nick was maesro and my client is troubled and now I am maestro_ (((
[16:48] <engineer> :(
[16:48] <pag> maestro_, /nick maesro  ? ;)
[16:48] <maestro_> why maestro not left the canal?
[16:48] <maestro_> yes ))
[16:49] <genii> maestro_:   You have to tell it to kick the name. Like:  /msg nickserv ghost maestro <password>
[16:50] <genii> Then it becomes available and you can do: /nick maestro
[16:50] <genii> This is all assuming of course that the name maestro normally belongs to you and has a password
[16:50] <maestro_> -NickServ- You may not ghost maestro
[16:51] <maestro_> ((
[16:51] <pag> maestro_, is the nick maestro registered to you?
[16:51] <engineer> it's registered already
[16:51] <engineer> you got owned
[16:51] <maestro_> no, nick maestro unregistered
[16:52] <pag> maestro_, it's registered, sorry
[16:52] <bsrat> have machine 64bit amd, 4gb. is it better to install 32bit or 64bit to run my 32-bit fps games
[16:52] <pag> maestro_, /msg nickserv info maestro
[16:52] <maestro_> really!?
[16:52] <engineer> bsrat 64bit of course
[16:53] <bsrat> ok ty
[16:53] <maestro_> oh =(( it's very bad! =((
[16:54] <_Maestro_> !register
[16:54] <_Maestro_> hm...
[16:55] <M435tr0> :O
[16:56] <_Maestro_> is ubottu bot?
[16:56] <pag> _Maestro_, yup.
[16:57] <arty_> ahojte
[16:57] <arty_> je tu niekto
[16:58] <pag> !sk | arty_
[16:58] <Dr_Willis> i couldent even tell wht language that was. :)
[16:58] <arty_> :) sry
[16:58] <pag> Dr_Willis, me neither, but domain gave it out :-)
[16:59] <arty_> pag: kubuntu dont have cz channel?
[17:00] <Engineer> ofc not
[17:00] <Engineer> what 4
[17:00] <pag> arty_, they are both in same, since it would be useless to split recources on two channels
[17:00] <arty_> pag: understand :)
[17:00] <pag> Engineer, erm.. providing kde related help?
[17:01] <arty_> Im just start with ubuntu or kubuntu :)
[17:01] <Engineer> #kde
[17:01] <Jucato> !cz | arty_
[17:01] <pag> arty_, just out of intrest: does the "je tu niekto" mean "is there anybody here"?
[17:02] <arty_> ubottu: Im already there but not replay
[17:03] <arty_> pag: yeo it does
[17:03] <Engineer> ahah
[17:03] <arty_> ouki me problem
[17:04] <arty_> I already install soft desctop efects
[17:04] <arty_> desktop effect
[17:05] <arty_> bud I have onli 2 desktop why?? if I replaice to 10 or someone als thei dont save
[17:06] <pag> arty_, you'll have to change that in ccsm ( alt+f2 -> ccsm ) it's somewhere under General settings
[17:06] <Dr_Willis> if you are refering to the compiz, and the # of desktops to get the cube.. You MUST set it with the ccsm tool. Not the kde pager aplet
[17:06] <Dr_Willis> !cube
[17:07] <arty_> pag: thx I found
[17:08] <BooVeMan_work> Hi guys - as a sidenote: likewise-open is broken... had to deinstall it to get my domain integration back...
[17:14] <arty_> pag: some good program for konsole
[17:15] <arty_> pag: some 3D help :) some easyer then start then system and konsole :)
[17:15] <pag> arty_, sorry? could you rephrase?
[17:16] <arty_> some program some script or something to konsole who can scroling on desktop :)
[17:17] <Dr_Willis> Huh?
[17:18] <pag> arty_, hmm.. If I understood you right, then you should try Yakuake, it's a terminal software that can be opened instantly when you press F12
[17:18] <Engineer> eh?
[17:18] <Engineer> yakuake definitly
[17:18] <Engineer> i use it daily
[17:18] <arty_> pag: yep it is thx
[17:19] <arty_> and some program to organize the mouste using icons
[17:22] <Jucato> !aptfix > Jucato
[17:32] <arty_> pag: here?
[17:33] <pag> arty_, yup, I'm here but I don't use icons, so I have no idea which would organise them
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> And i got no clue what the question actually was......
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> :)
[17:35] <arty_> pag: ouki and some good program you like
[17:36] <arty_> and is good the have
[17:37] <pag> arty_, personally I use pretty much the defaults (Konversation, konqueror, amarok and kopete) If I have to reccomend something, then I'd say ZSH – it's a nice shell, much more functional than bash (but again, that's just the matter of taste)
[17:39] <arty_> pag: thx I will try
[17:41] <Nece228> how about ati opensource driver? does it supports opengl and compiz good?
[17:41] <Nece228> or opensourse driver performance is slower than poprietary?
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> I think tht ould be a NO to  to the good..
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> and YES to the slower.
[17:41] <Dr_Willis> it also depends on the card.
[17:42] <Nece228> some people say that opensource driver working fine
[17:42] <Nece228> and you dont need poprietary driver
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> 'working fine' and 'working giving full 3d speed' - depends on the card.
[17:42] <arty_> pag: ZSH not found
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> !find zsh
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> !info zsh | arty_
[17:43] <Nece228> so is there problems left with ati in ubuntu 8.04?
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> ive alwaya had problems with ati.  :)
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> I imagine a lot of it will depend on your eaact ati card/chipset
[17:43] <arty_> Nece228: I use ati and no problem
[17:43] <Nece228> other people say when ubuntu 8.04 come all my problems gone
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> my  x200m finially started workign right with 8.04 -
[17:44] <genii> People say a lot of things
[17:44] <arty_> Dr_Willis: me x2300 too
[17:44] <arty_> i use notebook
[17:44] <Dr_Willis> I made sure my New laptop had nvidia
[17:47] <arty_> I have ATI and no problem finally
[17:47] <arty_> or you can try opensuse 11
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> 'no current problems' :)
[17:48] <arty_> :)
[17:48] <Nece228> does ubuntu 8.10 will have better ati support than 8.04?
[17:48] <Dr_Willis> ive yet to get tv-out working with ati.
[17:48] <Dr_Willis> It will have newer ati drivers.. so id hope so.
[17:49] <histo> !gutsy
[17:49] <histo> !version
[17:53] <Nece228> does ubuntu 8.04 supports new high definition audio?
[17:56] <ironman_> Hi f@lks
[17:56] <ironman_> does anybody knows a better driver for pixma 1200 than Turboprint?
[17:58] <jussi01> HardDrago: have you checked linuxprinting.org
[17:58] <jussi01> ??
[18:00] <Nece228> can i offer ubuntu 32 bit and 64 bit cds?
[18:15] <erica> olá?!
[18:15] <jpds> !es | erica
[18:16] <jpds> !pt | erica
[18:16] <erica> heloo?
[18:16] <erica> hello?
[18:18] <zabbadapp> what's the problem
[18:18] <erica> sorry, but i don't know how use this...
[18:20] <Thomas> Hello
[18:20] <Thomas> Hi
[18:20] <Thomas> Is anyone hear
[18:20] <Thomas> Am I the only one?
[18:21] <Tm_T> thomas__: no, not really
[18:21] <Thomas> Thanks
[18:21] <Thomas> is there many people in this chatroom
[18:21] <thomas__> yes
[18:21] <Tm_T> Thomas: only some 327 or so
[18:21] <Tm_T> so not many
[18:22] <Thomas> It's just that I don't know round my IRC Chat client yet!
[18:22] <Tm_T> Thomas: heh, take your time :)
[18:23] <Thomas> It's name is Colloquy and it is hard to work around I give you that!
[18:23] <toomanythomas> ok, don't hate me. But say you had an ubuntu partition that took your whole disk, and you wanted to install vista in dual boot (NOT in the reverse order). Has anyone tried it, and will it screw up my grub or even my linux installation?
[18:24] <SebNaitsabes> toomanythomas: Grub can be re installed
[18:24] <SebNaitsabes> !Grub
[18:24] <Thomas> Windows is a good OS but It now it wants to follow mac!
[18:24] <toomanythomas> if it wants to follow mac, that's fine by me !
[18:24] <Thomas> Who can blame it them macs are expensive
[18:24] <Tm_T> Thomas: now now, offtopic ;)
[18:25] <Thomas> It is only right that everyone gets the Mac OS teckno!
[18:25] <Thomas> On the "Infirior` hardware
[18:25] <Thomas> Anyway what am I talking about I am a Mac User!
[18:25] <SebNaitsabes> !offtopic |  Thomas
[18:25] <Daisuke_Laptop> Thomas: you have my condolences.
[18:25] <Tm_T> Thomas: I rephrase, offtopic, this is for support, not for some fiery rants ;)
[18:26] <toomanythomas> I hate to dual boot. But there are just small annoyances that sort of force me to: having to work on Word for collaborative projects (I know, codeweavers...); adobe acrobat (and don't tell me pdftk does the same stuff), etc.
[18:26] <Thomas> I know I need help on virtual pc on ubuntu!
[18:26] <SebNaitsabes> You can run Windows inside Ubuntu yes
[18:26] <Tm_T> Thomas: then ask help ;)
[18:26] <SebNaitsabes> uh Kubuntu
[18:27] <Daisuke_Laptop> so ask your question related to that, try to ease up on the exclamation marks, and avoid the offtopic rants
[18:27] <SebNaitsabes> !virtualbox
[18:27] <Thomas> Thanks!
[18:27] <Tm_T> erm
[18:27] <toomanythomas> sebnaitsabes Yes, but that's still a lot of hassle... and I would think vista inside of virtualbox would not run nicely...
[18:27] <SebNaitsabes> and if you want USB support use the PUEL the closed source versin of Virtualbox  http://www.virtualbox.org
[18:28] <SebNaitsabes> ,but yes that's a point about Vista
[18:28] <SebNaitsabes> depends on how much RAM you  have though
[18:28] <alt_ctrl>  hello i am back with my halfway upgrade genii r u there?
[18:28] <toomanythomas> 2g, but not that great a proc
[18:28] <Tm_T> and again you flow to offtopic? =)
[18:28] <Tm_T> veek: hi
[18:28] <SebNaitsabes> well   I woudn't try Vista on this PC in a VM, because I only have 1GB RAM
[18:28] <SebNaitsabes> ,but when I have just Vista booted it does run alright with 1GB RAM
[18:28] <toomanythomas> oh really? what proc do you have?
[18:29] <SebNaitsabes> however with 2GB RAM I think it's worth a try using Virtualbox,  and you can give loads more RAM to the Vista VM.  whilst Kubuntu does not get that much, but can still run well
[18:29] <SebNaitsabes> which version of Vista?
[18:29] <toomanythomas> dunno. haven't bought/looked at it yet
[18:30] <toomanythomas> but they sell it for $12 here, so I thought it wouldn't hurt to give it a try
[18:30] <SebNaitsabes> a pirate copy?
[18:30] <toomanythomas> nono, university deal
[18:30] <SebNaitsabes> which Vista?
[18:30] <toomanythomas> no idea. Let me check
[18:30]  * Tm_T slaps SebNaitsabes and toomanythomas
[18:31] <alt_ctrl>  genii r u there? anyone who knows how to finish and upgrade that stopped halfway andnow i can log in to the hardy but have no internet? and i am using a live cd right now?
[18:31] <SebNaitsabes> I am a mirror you just slapped your self :)
[18:31] <Tm_T> SebNaitsabes and toomanythomas, vista stuff slips into offtopic category ;)
[18:31] <toomanythomas> sorry Tm_T... we'll get back to kubuntu with a discussion of the new KDE :)
[18:31] <Tm_T> danke
[18:31] <toomanythomas> (later ;) )
[18:32] <SebNaitsabes> Vista makes nasty use of RAM
[18:32] <kkathman> Vista should be permanently off-topic heh
[18:32] <kkathman> hi Tm_T ;)
[18:32] <toomanythomas> ok, i'll pm seb
[18:32] <Tm_T> hi kkathman
[18:32] <Richard> i use vista and i quite like it
[18:32] <Richard> ram is cheap anyways
[18:32] <toomanythomas> loool
[18:32] <SebNaitsabes> Vista is a Pile Of Shit, but for $12  and a legal copy they might as well get it
[18:32] <Tm_T> dont push it
[18:32] <kkathman> !language
[18:33] <alt_ctrl> well we tried so far a command line apt get that failed..
[18:33] <toomanythomas> oh here we go: it's on topic b/c the discussion is whether I should stick to kubuntu or not ;)
[18:33] <SebNaitsabes> heh to be fair it's better than  XP in certain ways,  and even Kubuntu, but hey I am a Gnome user so :D
[18:33] <toomanythomas> yeah but gnome is a .... just kidding
[18:33] <Richard> i prefer Vista over XP as well
[18:34] <Richard> Kde over Gnome of course
[18:34] <toomanythomas> of course
[18:34] <SebNaitsabes> Gnome over KDE :)
[18:34] <toomanythomas> this is sthg I really don't understand. How s.o. can prefer gnome
[18:34] <Richard> indeed
[18:34] <Richard> gnome is so baisc
[18:34] <toomanythomas> I started w/ it b/c it came with Ubuntu.  The menus all look different and grey
[18:35] <Richard> yep
[18:35] <Richard> just like w98
[18:35] <Tm_T> toomanythomas: stop, that is NOT Kubuntu support
[18:35] <Richard> but worse
[18:35] <Tm_T> Richard: same to you
[18:35] <Tm_T> hi OutoLumo
[18:35] <toomanythomas> okok, sorry
[18:35] <OutoLumo> hi
[18:36] <Tm_T> toomanythomas: np, feel free to join #kubuntu-offtopic
[18:36] <SebNaitsabes> well Gnome can be customized to look like Mac OS X a nice theme
[18:36] <Richard> kde can also
[18:36] <SebNaitsabes> yeah, but
[18:36] <SebNaitsabes> KDE is more Windows like
[18:36] <SebNaitsabes> plus slightly more geekey
[18:36] <Richard> but i'd rather have a mac instead
[18:37] <SebNaitsabes> plus a bit more complacted, becasue of how things are done with the menus over Gnome
[18:37] <alt_ctrl> anyone knows what to do when adept manager fails to finish the upgrade and youend up with a halfway done hardy?
[18:37] <Richard> Windows is better in many ways
[18:37] <Tm_T> SebNaitsabes: more windows-like how? (I think we should talk this on #kubuntu-offtopic )
[18:37] <Richard> i see nothing wrong with kde adopting stuff form it
[18:37] <Richard> from*
[18:37] <SebNaitsabes> I am in there now
[18:37] <Richard> alt_ctrl use synaptic
[18:37] <Tm_T> alt_ctrl: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[18:38] <Richard> sudo aptitude -f install
[18:38] <alt_ctrl> i tried it it had some error message i lok it up one sec
[18:38] <genii> alt_ctrl: I am away from the computer for extended periods right now due to work. Back for 2-3 minutes at a stretch
[18:38] <kkathman> Richard:  or vice versa eh?
[18:38] <Richard> eh'
[18:38] <Richard> didn't get that
[18:38] <alt_ctrl>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/29303/
[18:38] <Richard> kkathman
[18:38] <alt_ctrl> then http://paste.ubuntu.com/29309/
[18:38] <kkathman> Richard:  windows borrowing from KDE as well
[18:39] <alt_ctrl> the last one http://paste.ubuntu.com/29310/
[18:39] <Richard> yeah, from linux in general
[18:39] <Richard> alt_ctrl try sudo aptitude -f install
[18:39] <Richard> at least they got the multi user thing right now in vista
[18:40] <alt_ctrl> ok genii
[18:40] <Richard> even opera will copy the new location bar feature from firefox
[18:40] <alt_ctrl> Richard i will try that too
[18:40] <Richard> and extend it to page content as well
[18:42] <alt_ctrl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/29355/ after this i hit yes
[18:43] <toomanythomas> Tm_T it might be off topic, but it was more fun ;)
[18:44] <DexterF> hi
[18:44] <toomanythomas> hi
[18:44] <Tm_T> toomanythomas: doesn't matter
[18:44] <Richard> alt_ctrl what output did my command do?
[18:44] <DexterF> is there a kernel version 2.6.25 or higher for hardy or patch to make the current work with the gf8200 chipset?
[18:44] <alt_ctrl> and got a bunch of problems here http://paste.ubuntu.com/29357/ it is long butit might help
[18:45] <alt_ctrl> the last two paste tells u
[18:45] <Richard> LOL
[18:45] <Richard> you removed the kernel
[18:45] <Richard> i'd advise you to not reboot
[18:45] <alt_ctrl> well i am on live cd anyway
[18:45] <Richard> why didn't you try aptitude
[18:46] <Richard> instead of apt-get
[18:46] <alt_ctrl> well firt i used the built in adept manager
[18:46] <alt_ctrl> then it stopped during upgrade
[18:46] <Richard> adept uses apt-get so same thing
[18:46] <alt_ctrl> then iwas here and they adviced me to do what i done
[18:46] <alt_ctrl> what to do now?
[18:47] <Richard> your problem now then
[18:47] <Richard> i've no idea, apt just broke your system
[18:47] <alt_ctrl> well i jsut did what u said to do...
[18:48] <Richard> (18:37:59) (Richard) sudo aptitude -f install
[18:48] <Richard> this?
[18:48] <alt_ctrl> yes
[18:48] <alt_ctrl> and i copied the output
[18:48] <alt_ctrl> it sked me if yes and i said yes
[18:48] <alt_ctrl> then i copied the other output
[18:49] <alt_ctrl> then usaid no kernel
[18:49] <Richard> uname -a
[18:49] <Richard> what does that print
[18:50] <alt_ctrl> Linux ubuntu 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Jun 18 14:43:41 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[18:50] <Richard> it removed the old kernels afterall, at least that
[18:50] <Richard> sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[18:51] <alt_ctrl> ok let me try it
[18:51] <alt_ctrl> now its working on packages
[18:52] <alt_ctrl> removed th ejava plugin from ozilla and something else that it said will solve dependencies i said yes
[18:52] <Ayabara> what's the path to the kubuntu/kde trash bin?
[18:53] <engineer> trash:/
[18:53] <alt_ctrl> now its downloading says 9 min
[18:55] <Ayabara> engineer, ah. does gnome and kde use the same trash bin? I somehow had the notion that they didn't...
[18:56] <engineer> i've no idea
[18:59] <alt_ctrl> 50 seconds now its at 93 %
[19:00] <alt_ctrl> it keeps saying can not write log i hope that does not matter much
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> !trash
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> they use the same trash now i  belve
[19:03] <alt_ctrl> wel it says its done
[19:03] <alt_ctrl> but with lots of errors in the end
[19:05] <alt_ctrl> what now?
[19:05] <genii> Back
[19:05] <alt_ctrl> is it ready or what?
[19:05] <genii> alt_ctrl: Getting anywhere yet?
[19:05] <alt_ctrl> no
[19:05] <alt_ctrl> at least i dont think so
[19:05] <alt_ctrl> can u scroll up and see
[19:06] <alt_ctrl> i did some aptitude but it ended up downloading somehting for 7 minutes and giving lots of erros
[19:06] <genii> alt_ctrl: Looks like the console-setup is still causing it to hang in it's post install script by trying to start when it's already running, causing a cascade effect
[19:06] <alt_ctrl> if you say so :)
[19:07] <alt_ctrl> well how can i use the live cd to upgrade?
[19:08] <alt_ctrl> or how di i do a clean install wihout formatting my home directory but still be able to access every setting i have there
[19:08] <genii> alt_ctrl: Perhaps try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure  console-setup         and see if it can finish doing that
[19:08] <alt_ctrl> and programs too
[19:08] <alt_ctrl> ok i try that
[19:09] <alt_ctrl> console-setup is broken or not fully installed
[19:09] <alt_ctrl> "
[19:09] <genii> Bah
[19:09] <alt_ctrl> yeah
[19:09] <genii> alt_ctrl: sudo dpkg-reconfigure  --force console-setup        then
[19:10] <alt_ctrl> well now a dos like screen came up
[19:10] <alt_ctrl> keyboard model...
[19:10] <alt_ctrl> it s laptop
[19:11] <alt_ctrl> have no idea what keyboard it is but one option says do not configure keyboard keep kernel map
[19:11] <genii> alt_ctrl: So choose something reasonable I think 83 is laptops
[19:11] <alt_ctrl> and generic 105key intl pc is highlighted
[19:11] <genii> alt_ctrl: For now 105 should be fine
[19:12] <chairman> hello
[19:12] <alt_ctrl> what is compose key?
[19:12] <chairman> can u automatically set up my kmail please?
[19:12] <alt_ctrl> i guess i dont have
[19:13] <alt_ctrl> encoding the consol:
[19:13] <alt_ctrl> it says utf-8
[19:13] <alt_ctrl> and other bunch of different ones but utf-8 is highlighted
[19:13] <alt_ctrl> is that ok?
[19:15] <ubuntu> hi
[19:15] <chairman> i need help please
[19:17] <alt_ctrl> set of characters... well i choose latin 2 i guess
[19:17] <alt_ctrl> or latin 1? does it matter much?
[19:18] <genii> alt_ctrl: I forget the defaults there for what countries actually. I think either of those should be fine for Australia however
[19:19] <chairman> i want ot configure my gmail w/ Kmail
[19:19] <zdux00tv> hi, is there a way to get a smaller screen shot on the tool tip on the task bar?
[19:20] <alt_ctrl> well th elaptop is american
[19:20] <alt_ctrl> i am in cyprus now and use hungarian and esperanto to write sometiems
[19:22] <alt_ctrl> now i cant get out of th last screen
[19:22] <alt_ctrl> there is nothing to choose
[19:22] <alt_ctrl> jsut and ok but no response to enter
[19:24] <alt_ctrl> ok i done all that
[19:24] <alt_ctrl> but again an error message
[19:25] <alt_ctrl> root@ubuntu:/# sudo dpkg-reconfigure  --force console-setup
[19:25] <alt_ctrl> invoke-rc.d: initscript console-setup, action "start" failed.
[19:26] <alt_ctrl> i am not sure if this is ok or bad
[19:26] <intg001> test
[19:27] <genii> alt_ctrl: Try now: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:27] <alt_ctrl> ok
[19:27] <genii> alt_ctrl: Hopefully it will ignore console-setup and move to the next item now
[19:29] <alt_ctrl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/29365/
[19:29] <wamty_> ok well i just wanted to know if there is ANY way that i can install Media Centre Edition on Kubuntu V8.04.1 ?
[19:29] <alt_ctrl> i dont know if it did that but it stopped quickly with errors
[19:29] <genii> alt_ctrl: Reading
[19:30] <daemon3> In Konsole, how do I enable system beeps?
[19:30] <daemon3> I've tried doing it, but I'm still not getting anythign.
[19:30] <daemon3> *anything*
[19:31] <wamty_> anyone?
[19:32] <neko__> Hello all, Look on mine new forum :) www.nekos.yoyo.pl
[19:34] <BooVeMan_work> wamty_: you refer to elisa?
[19:34] <zdux00tv> how can I alter the tooltip on the taskbar to include a window preview (similar to screen shot) ?
[19:35] <BooVeMan_work> zdux00tv: upgrade to kde4
[19:35] <zdux00tv> BooVeMan: thanks
[19:37] <neko__> come look on me new forum i make it today ! www.nekos.yoyo.pl
[19:38] <martijn81> a pl forum...
[19:38]  * martijn81 laughing out lout
[19:38] <martijn81> loud
[19:39] <genii> alt_ctrl: Hmm. Try: sudo /etc/init.d/dbus stop                then run the previous command again
[19:39] <genii> alt_ctrl: eg: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[19:39] <alt_ctrl> ok one sec
[19:40] <alt_ctrl> similar results maybe the same
[19:41] <genii> alt_ctrl: Please pastein anyhow. Might be subtle difference
[19:41] <MementoMori> !italian
[19:41] <alt_ctrl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/29366/
[19:41] <genii> alt_ctrl: Reading
[19:41] <alt_ctrl> ok
[19:42] <wamty_> i'm trying to install Media Centre Edition on a Kubuntu V8.04.1 package,the installation starts fine,but as soon as it asks me where the disks or ISO's are it gives me an error that says:unable to cache LMCE CD 1
[19:42] <neko__> http://www.nekos.yoyo.pl/index.php                     ( GAMES LINUX , DISTRO FOR NOW ONLY ONE xd, MOVIES , GAME) Today i do it
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[19:44] <genii> alt_ctrl: Bah. I'm about ready to recommend a new install after copying out your /home/username    files
[19:45] <wamty_> anyone????????????
[19:45] <genii> !linuxmce | wamty_
[19:46] <alt_ctrl> yes i was wondering
[19:46] <zabbadapp> don't everyone keep /home on a separate partition for super-easy reinstalls?
[19:46] <alt_ctrl> and how can i get back to my old settings?
[19:46] <genii> zabbadapp: You'd be surprised how many not
[19:47] <alt_ctrl> welli do have home on  seperate partition
[19:47] <alt_ctrl> so i guess i can jsut not format the /home right?
[19:47] <genii> alt_ctrl: Good. Then you can reinstall without much incident. Whatever seetings you had are still in there
[19:47] <alt_ctrl> then how am i going to be able to have my old settings?
[19:48] <genii> alt_ctrl: Yes, exactly don't format /home
[19:48] <zabbadapp> and make sure you don't format that home-partition!
[19:48] <alt_ctrl> and if i make the same username during install
[19:48] <alt_ctrl> i can log in like that?
[19:48] <genii> alt_ctrl: Yes same username.
[19:48] <alt_ctrl> witht he same password i have now?
[19:48] <genii> alt_ctrl: Yes same pw
[19:48] <alt_ctrl> casue some years ago i di dthat and it di dnot work that way
[19:48] <alt_ctrl> so when i tried to install it
[19:48] <genii> Or new password doesn't matter since it's not stoed in your home directory anyhow
[19:48] <alt_ctrl> it wanted to install to the free space i have now
[19:48] <White_Pelican> has anyone tried Intrepid yet?
[19:49] <alt_ctrl> but i have to choose a manual partition?
[19:49] <alt_ctrl> and leave the /home alone but do the rest?
[19:49] <zanberdo> where do I configure the alt-tab combo?
[19:49] <genii> alt_ctrl: Yes manual partitioning, leave whatever the old /home partition is alone, format and install to some other one
[19:50] <genii> alt_ctrl: Do you recall what partition was previously assigned /home ?
[19:50] <alt_ctrl> the one it gave me
[19:50] <wamty_> i'm trying to install Media Centre Edition on a Kubuntu V8.04.1 package,the installation starts fine,but as soon as it asks me where the disks or ISO's are it gives me an error that says:unable to cache LMCE CD 1
[19:50] <wamty_> ANYONE?
[19:50] <genii> e: sda4 sdb2 or so on?
[19:51] <alt_ctrl> is there a way to check it now?
[19:51] <zabbadapp> have you done any tweaking in /etc ? if so, do a copy of it to you home directory to later recall how you i.e. configured sshd_conf or something like that
[19:51] <alt_ctrl> no i dont know them
[19:51] <genii> alt_ctrl: Yes. You are on hd boot to that drive?
[19:51] <alt_ctrl> no i am on live cd
[19:51]  * BooVeMan_work will be back in an hour
[19:51] <alt_ctrl> but i guess i can acces the hard drive
[19:52] <alt_ctrl> we did some chmod i am not sure if that was for it
[19:52] <alt_ctrl> if i am hd boot i dont have internet
[19:52] <genii> alt_ctrl: OK.     pastebin result of: sudo fdisk -l                    then we will mount possibles in turn to see which it is
[19:52] <zabbadapp> wamty_: isn't there an mce-channel? sounds like a specific problem
[19:53] <alt_ctrl> well cant not open /proc/partitions
[19:53] <genii> zabbadapp: I already gave him the bot factoid that we don't support MCE here and it gave him the proper channel to go to
[19:53] <genii> alt_ctrl: Forget about /proc/partions! I'm talking about /dev/someharddrivedevicename      is what we need here, the one with /home contents
[19:54] <alt_ctrl> well that was the answer to sudo fdisk -l
[19:56] <alt_ctrl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/29373/
[19:57] <_Maestro_> hi all
[19:57] <engineer> if it's for those nick questions go to #freenode
[19:58] <_Maestro_> áëèí, ÿ õç êàê íà èíãëèøå ñïðîñèòü
[19:58] <_Maestro_> êàê ïîëó÷èòü ñïèñîê âñåõ êàíàëîâ?
[19:58] <_Maestro_> ïëèç
[19:58] <Pici> _Maestro_: language?
[19:58] <_Maestro_> åñòü ðàøí ïèïë?
[20:00] <_Maestro_> Pici: Russian... sorry
[20:00] <genii> alt_ctrl: Hmm, i forgot you are on as root. Try just:  fdisk -l
[20:00] <Pici> _Maestro_: /join #ubuntu-ru    then :)
[20:01] <wamty_> Can anyone help me?
[20:01] <wamty_> why am I being ignored
[20:01] <wamty_> i'm trying to install Media Centre Edition on a Kubuntu V8.04.1 package,the installation starts fine,but as soon as it asks me where the disks or ISO's are it gives me an error that says:unable to cache LMCE CD 1
[20:01] <alt_ctrl> same thing
[20:02] <alt_ctrl> that what we jsut tried
[20:02] <genii> wamty_: Because you keep asking about Media Centre Edition which is not supported here and have been told twice which channel (NOT HERE) does support it
[20:02] <wamty_> Pici ?
[20:02] <Pici> wamty_: You need to join #linuxmce
[20:03] <alt_ctrl> it gave me the same thing cannot open /proc/partitions
[20:03] <genii> alt_ctrl: Thats not normal behaviour at all
[20:04] <genii> alt_ctrl: Reboot the machine back to livecd and come back
[20:04] <alt_ctrl> ok
[20:04] <alt_ctrl> back to this live cd
[20:04] <alt_ctrl> give me a minute
[20:08] <ozone> what is the channel for ubuntu philiipines?
[20:08] <Pici> ozone: #ubuntu-ph
[20:08] <ozone> thanks
[20:15] <alt_ctrl> i am back
[20:16] <genii> alt_ctrl: OK. So to go in Konsole once more. Then to issue:   sudo fdisk -l               and pastebin the results.  Unless it's that /proc/partitons message again
[20:17] <alt_ctrl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/29377/
[20:18] <genii> alt_ctrl: I'm pretty sure now you don't have a separate disk partition for your /home directory
[20:18] <alt_ctrl> ok
[20:18] <alt_ctrl> so what am i supposed to do now?
[20:18] <alt_ctrl> i only followed the one kubuntu gave me then upgraded
[20:20] <alt_ctrl> where is the /home? int he first one that says linux or the second one that says extended?
[20:23] <genii> alt_ctrl: The /home is in a directory on the / which in your case seems to be in sda1
[20:23] <genii> alt_ctrl: I am thinking now we ran a lot of useless commands on the root fs of the livecd and not the hd we wanted to affect, incidentally
[20:24] <alt_ctrl> well lets run some useful command ont he right place then
[20:24] <genii> alt_ctrl: 1 moment I need to look up exact things for that we will need
[20:25] <alt_ctrl> ok
[20:30] <genii> alt_ctrl: Ok.    sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[20:31] <alt_ctrl> ok
[20:31] <alt_ctrl> done it
[20:33] <genii> alt_ctrl: work needs me but I'll be back shortly with further instructions
[20:33] <alt_ctrl> ok i stay here
[20:36] <kosh> could some one help me please ?
[20:37] <kosh> please... :(
[20:37] <XJman> Can someone give me a hand installing ndiswrapper from source?
[20:38] <zabbadapp> kosh: just type the problem and if anyone knows the solution you get an answer
[20:38] <kosh> ok, thanks.
[20:38] <genii> alt_ctrl: sudo mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev && sudo mount -o bind /sys /mnt/sys && sudo mount -t /proc proc /mnt/proc
[20:38] <alt_ctrl> this is all in once right?
[20:39] <genii> alt_ctrl: Yes, just copy and paste it in from here
[20:39] <alt_ctrl> ok
[20:39] <XJman> If I'm told to run a make distclean at my source-directory I would run  make distclean /home/usr/file
[20:39] <genii> alt_ctrl: Bah I made a typo
[20:40] <kosh> I Had a problem with mi web cam, it's a Philips PCVC675k. I've installed the drivers and works perfectly, but the microphone on the web cam doesn't
[20:40] <genii> alt_ctrl: Last command is:  sudo mount -t proc /proc /mnt/proc
[20:40] <alt_ctrl> mount: unknown filesystem type '/proc'
[20:40] <alt_ctrl> ok
[20:40] <genii> alt_ctrl: Yes, I just caught it, corrected one is above
[20:41] <alt_ctrl> after the second && ?
[20:41] <genii> alt_ctrl: You can just run it separately, the other ones already ran now
[20:42] <alt_ctrl> ok
[20:42] <alt_ctrl> done it
[20:42] <genii> alt_ctrl: Ok. Now: sudo chroot /mnt
[20:42] <genii> alt_ctrl: At this point we are now in the old root filesystem
[20:43] <XJman> Has anyone here installed ndiswrapper without internet? I'm lost trying to compile it
[20:43] <genii> alt_ctrl: So try:    dpkg --configure -a
[20:43] <alt_ctrl> ok now i am root@ubuntu
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> im looking for a web interface for sound but I want the sound to stay on the remote system (not streaming to the client). XUL Remote for Amarok is similar but I want it to be controllable from mobile phone browsers which dont di XUL as yet. Can anyone please suggest a solution
[20:43] <genii> alt_ctrl: We will not need sudo in this case becase we are on as like root there. So be extremely careful!
[20:44] <genii> alt_ctrl: I'll be back. pastebin any errors and I'll read on return
[20:44] <alt_ctrl> ok i am extremely careful when copy paste- ing here:)
[20:44] <kosh> Could some one help me with mi web cam please?
[20:44] <alt_ctrl> its like setting up this and that
[20:44] <kosh> I Had a problem with mi web cam, it's a Philips PCVC675k. I've installed the drivers and works perfectly, but the microphone on the web cam doesn't
[20:45] <sredna> hi
[20:45] <alt_ctrl> looks like no errors...
[20:45] <sredna> what is the system settings in kde4
[20:45] <sredna> *questionmark*
[20:46] <alt_ctrl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/29385/
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> sredna: kdesudo kdesettings, try tab completing
[20:48] <sredna> ActionParsnip: thank you, i found it :)
[20:48] <sredna> it
[20:48] <genii> alt_ctrl: Back. Reading
[20:48] <sredna> s about broken in usage, but maybe configuring fonts correctly will help...
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> sredna: always use kdesudo for gui apps
[20:49] <genii> alt_ctrl: Great, we're finally getting somewhere
[20:49] <genii> alt_ctrl: Now issue: apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:50] <genii> alt_ctrl: Is ite to find the network and connect out? abl
[20:50] <FrauHansen> what is the standard filter for "not"? like *.odf is all .odf, how do i exclude .odf? like NOT(.odf)?
[20:50] <genii> bah
[20:50] <sredna> ActionParsnip: what? i want to configure KDE 4, as me
[20:50] <sigma_12> could i get my pc to turn off after 15min of no network activity on the lan port?
[20:50] <genii> alt_ctrl: Is it able to find network and connect out?
[20:51] <alt_ctrl> i dont know
[20:51] <alt_ctrl> how do i check it?
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> sredna: if its not massively sensitve to system (passwords etc) then you can run it as you, if its for big changes, use kdesudo
[20:52] <alt_ctrl> now i am on live cd should i go and restart from hd?
[20:52] <genii> alt_ctrl: Let it finish trying to get a list and trying to update. If it can't connect out it will tell you
[20:52] <genii> alt_ctrl: NO not yet for restart
[20:52] <sigma_12> i finally figured out how to share a usb internet connection!
[20:52] <alt_ctrl> ok
[20:52] <sredna> ActionParsnip: i'm quite convinced that if i run systemsettings under sudo, i will not configure my own desktop
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> sredna: true, it will configure roots
[20:53] <sredna> ActionParsnip: and btw, i have been running linux and kde since 1997, but not yet kde4, as it is still not very usable in production use
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> sredna: i was unaware what you were configuring but you seem clear of whats what
[20:53] <ActionParsnip> :D
[20:54] <genii> alt_ctrl: Is it doing anything at all or hung up trying to contact some repository right now?
[20:54] <sredna> ActionParsnip: the reason i asked is that typing 'sys' in krunner did not offer it (which is obviously a bug)
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> sredna: i just use yakuake / konsole, less rubbish on the system
[20:54] <alt_ctrl> its running
[20:54] <beata|desktop> How does one go about reseting an IDE interface nowdays, since hdparm doesn't seem to know how.
[20:55] <alt_ctrl> but now stopped with everyting done
[20:55] <alt_ctrl> 0 to remove 0 to upgraded
[20:55] <alt_ctrl> let me paste it
[20:55] <genii> alt_ctrl: No thats fine
[20:55] <genii> alt_ctrl: You can try reboot to hd now
[20:55] <alt_ctrl> r u sure?:)
[20:56] <genii> alt_ctrl: If it fails spectacularly come back here on livecd again
[20:56] <alt_ctrl> ok
[20:56] <alt_ctrl> be right back
[20:56] <genii> beata|desktop: Perhaps ... sdparm?
[20:58] <bobo> hey ppl
[20:59] <beata|desktop> Nope. sdparm says that it's an ATA device.
[21:00] <altctrl> genii i am back from hd now
[21:00] <altctrl> i have the network working but i amsure not everything is fine
[21:01] <altctrl> becasue when the screen comes in it does not have those small icons when kde starts up
[21:01] <genii> altctrl: Well at least it's booted.
[21:01] <altctrl> yes
[21:01] <XJman> Anyone have expierence with ndiswrapper and installing the program without an available internet connection
[21:01] <altctrl> an i got the backgrounds everything right on the first look
[21:02] <altctrl> but i do not know if the upgrade is full now or where i am...
[21:02] <genii> altctrl: You have the bottom panel or it's disappeared?
[21:02] <altctrl> i have everything the same as i had before
[21:03] <altctrl> one thing is strange the desktop pager shows itself too in the small windows and it di dnot before
[21:04] <genii> altctrl: OK. About your small startup kde icons and so forth I have no idea
[21:04] <XJman> After cd into my ndiswrapper directory I'll run make distclean and it get *** No rule to make target 'distclean'. Stop.  Leaving directory... then distclean error 2
[21:04] <altctrl> well i guess the splashscreen or what it is called is missing...
[21:05] <altctrl> is there a way to check if the upgrade is finished?
[21:05] <XJman> I get the same error for make, and sudo make install
[21:05] <altctrl> should i jsut run the adept manager again ?
[21:05] <genii> altctrl: Likely. Maye try: sudo apt-get install ksplash
[21:07] <altctrl> it says ksplash is already the newest version
[21:07] <genii> altctrl: Then try: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ksplash
[21:07] <altctrl> anyway what matters is to make sure that everything is right here
[21:08] <genii> altctrl: Yes at least the system is somewhat recovered now
[21:08] <Sydero> Does anyone know when Firefox 3.0.1 will be added to the repos?
[21:08] <XJman> Any ideas about my errors?
[21:09] <altctrl> yes now its unpacking it
[21:09] <Sydero> I heard that we can run sudo firefox and run check updates from there
[21:10] <engineer> do yourself a facor
[21:10] <engineer> and use the reps
[21:10] <engineer> smoother upgrade
[21:11] <altctrl> do you know how to check if it is done all the upgrade
[21:11] <genii> XJman: Obviously there's no file there called Makefile for it to use as a hint as to how and wat to compile
[21:12] <XJman> Its there. I can see it in the diretory genii, for some reason its not reading it, or I'm doing something very wrong
[21:12] <engineer> altctrl apt-cache policy <package>
[21:13] <genii> altctrl: If you issue:   sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it says again 0 to update or so, then it's done
[21:15] <Sydero> nvm foudn outhow to get it
[21:15] <altctrl> ok i try
[21:15] <Sydero> just enable the prerelased repo
[21:15] <Sydero> pre-released
[21:15] <arty> hi all
[21:15] <altctrl> yes 0 for everything
[21:15] <altctrl> thank you very much
[21:15] <arty> do some knowe program to virtualizing cd
[21:15] <genii> XJman: Does: make --help       show anything?
[21:16] <altctrl> where should i send the sixpack?
[21:16] <arty> virtual cd some program
[21:16] <genii> XJman: Sorry not that,
[21:16] <bobo> i have learned so much on my os and alot of its apps on irc i just want to thank you guys one time
[21:16] <Sydero> you don't need make --help
[21:16] <Sydero> just read the makefile
[21:16] <Sydero> to see the options
[21:16] <arty> in windows is deamon tool in linux is?
[21:16] <Sydero> or the readme
[21:17] <genii> Sydero: Yes, but many have help or so to tell you which make options like  make new make unistall     or so on are int here
[21:17] <genii> XJman: Sometimes    make help           will just list them.
[21:18] <XJman> Yeah, just the various commands to disable/enable various things. my errors seem to be implicit rules errors so if I run make -r it gives me the same thing
[21:18] <XJman> -r being the command to disable the implicit rules
[21:18] <genii> XJman: Did you do already a ./configure       or was makefile there?
[21:19] <XJman> When I run /configure it says no such file
[21:19] <Sydero> usually you always do:./configure;make;make install;make clean
[21:19] <Sydero> it's ./configure
[21:19] <Sydero> not /configure
[21:20] <altctrl> bye all its timefor me to sleep now
[21:20] <Sydero> ls -a
[21:20] <Sydero> to see all the hidden files
[21:20] <XJman> I didn't notice the .
[21:20] <Sydero> cya
[21:20] <genii> altctrl: Nite
[21:20] <XJman> sudo ./configure gives me the same result. So I'm missing a step somewhere?
[21:21] <Sydero> no need for sudo
[21:22] <XJman> Same thing with or without the sudo. I've unpacked the tarball, created the file directory /home/adam/ndiswrapper-1.53 But for the life of me I can not get this thing to compile
[21:22] <genii> XJman: If ls shows the Makefile for instance as being there. You copied these files over from another box, as I inderstand. So maybe they are not owned byt he user you are running under. Or else the permissions are such that makes it impossible to read or execute
[21:22] <Sydero> yeah I suppose you could chmod them or chown them
[21:22] <XJman> genii: I copied the tar.bz file and unpacked that,
[21:22] <Sydero> hmmm
[21:23] <Sydero> ls the directory
[21:23] <Sydero> and verify a makefile
[21:24] <Sydero> maybe you're in the wrong directory :/
[21:25] <genii> You unpacked the tarbal and created the directory. But did you untar into that diredctory which you made?
[21:25] <Sydero> if it's .tar.bz
[21:25] <Sydero> then you need to untar it:P
[21:25] <Sydero> after you unbziped it
[21:26] <XJman> genii: I've followed this walkthrough http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/joomla/index.php?/component/option,com_openwiki/Itemid,33/id,installation/
[21:27] <Sydero> why not install ndiswrapper from adept?
[21:27] <XJman> Not listed there.
[21:27] <Sydero> ndiswrapper-common
[21:27] <Sydero> and ndiswrapper-utils is
[21:27] <Sydero> hmmmm
[21:29] <XJman> I've tried, there is nothing listed under ndiswrapper-common. This pc can't get to a hardwired internet due to the fact its a 500lb desk
[21:29] <Sydero> What if you installed ndisgtk on its own?
[21:30] <XJman> From Adept?
[21:31] <Sydero> yeah :S
[21:31] <XJman> Not listed either
[21:31] <Sydero> #1 ndiswrapper is already installed
[21:31] <Sydero> on ubuntu by default
[21:31] <Sydero> that's why it isn't listed
[21:31] <Sydero> "Ubuntu comes with the necessary ndiswrapper module pre-installed, but it needs the ndiswrapper-utils package to get it working. There is also a graphical interface to using ndiswrapper which you can use."
[21:32] <XJman> Then how do I get the utils file? I can't seem to find it in adept
[21:32] <Sydero> "Note: Starting with Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper), ndiswrapper-utils is included on the standard installation CD"
[21:32] <Sydero> ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 shows up for me on adept
[21:33] <Sydero> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[21:33] <XJman> Not for me, I can't seem to find it on the kubuntu disk either
[21:33] <bobo> Xjman are you in adept or add/remove
[21:33] <Sydero>   sudo dpkg -i ndiswrapper-common_*.deb
[21:33] <Sydero>   sudo dpkg -i ndiswrapper-utils*.deb
[21:33] <Sydero>   sudo dpkg -i --force-depends ndisgtk_*.deb
[21:34] <XJman> bobo: Yes
[21:35] <XJman> Sydero: cannot access archive, not such file.
[21:35] <Sydero> Are you sure you have ubuntu?
[21:35] <XJman> I have Kubuntu, yes I know what the OS is
[21:35] <Sydero> which version
[21:37] <Sydero> Open Adept
[21:37] <XJman> 8.04 with KDE 3.5
[21:37] <Sydero> then goto Adept > Manage Repositories > Third Party Updates and check off the cdrom source
[21:37] <Sydero> then search for ndiswrapper again after fetch
[21:40] <XJman> Still not there
[21:41] <bobo> its there on mine
[21:41] <Sydero> you must be typing it in wrong
[21:42] <XJman> ndiswrapper
[21:42] <Sydero> What repos do you have enabled?
[21:43] <Sydero> or maybe it's just taking a really long time to search
[21:43] <Sydero> and you're giving up too early
[21:43] <XJman> 2 cd roms. http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu
[21:43] <XJman> but the web addresses are nil because I have no internet
[21:43] <[Bart]> hello, I'm using Kubuntu intrepid, with KDE4..but I can't find a digikam package for it.. somebody who has a package for that?
[21:43] <genii> XJman: Hmm. modprobe -l |grep ndiswrapper      Does that show anything?
[21:44] <bobo> you have no internet?
[21:44] <Sydero> just enable all the repos you can
[21:44] <genii> [Bart]: PErhaps ask them in #kubuntu-kde4 please
[21:44] <XJman> Yes, that does genii /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/misc/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko
[21:44] <Strog576> i cant get with my laptop on the internet can someone help me out?
[21:45] <XJman> bobo: no, this pc can not get internet unless it is wireless
[21:45] <Sydero> wireless Strog?
[21:45] <Strog576> yes
[21:45] <Sydero> Do you have knetworkmanager open?
[21:45] <XJman> All my repos are enabled.
[21:45] <bobo> well thats why your not seeing the ndiswrapper
[21:45] <Strog576> yes
[21:45] <Sydero> and what does it say when you right click it strog?
[21:46] <Sydero> the icon
[21:46] <Strog576> it shows me the wireless lans available as if everything is ok
[21:46] <Sydero> then connect to one
[21:46] <Strog576> i am connected to one
[21:46] <Sydero> then maybe your router is the problem
[21:47] <Strog576> no cant be
[21:47] <Strog576> i checked that
[21:47] <[Bart]> tnx genii
[21:47] <Sydero> connect to another wireless network
[21:47] <Strog576> maybe something with the iptables
[21:47] <genii> [Bart]: np
[21:47] <Strog576> didnt help either
[21:47] <genii> Strog576: After it thinks you are connecdted does ping by ip work but not ping by name?
[21:48] <Strog576> it says that sendmsg: Operation not permitted
[21:48] <Guest49416> hallo
[21:48] <Strog576> i guess something with the iptables or?
[21:49] <XJman> so genii: That would mean that its installed if I get a read out correct?
[21:49] <genii> Strog576: Or policykit
[21:49] <patrick__> hallo
[21:49] <Strog576> genii: what do u mean?
[21:49] <genii> XJman: It means you have the kernel module of it at least
[21:49] <genii> !info policykit
[21:50] <genii> Strog576: Yes, something firewall related basically
[21:50] <Strog576> genii: can you giude me with this problem
[21:50] <patrick__> kann anyone help me by a problem with sound on an ASUS P5E mainboard ?
[21:50] <genii> Strog576: Not right now
[21:51] <Strog576> genii: is there a way to set the default of the iptable?
[21:53] <genii> Strog576: I have a hardware firewall and don't use it (iptables). So there may be some way but I'm not your guy for that
[21:54] <Strog576> ok
[21:56] <ezequiel> hi
[21:57] <ezequiel> i need som help
[21:57] <ezequiel> some
[21:57] <ezequiel> hi
[21:58] <ezequiel> somebady there
[21:58] <XJman> Well genii and Sydero, thanks for the help.  It will work for now.
[21:59] <ezequiel> i dont know how use firefox
[22:00] <XJman> What do you mean
[22:00] <ezequiel> i dont know how use google
[22:04] <Resistol> How can I get my "volume up" key to work from any window?  I just set it in system settings->keyboard->kmix but it only works when I have the kmix window open
[22:22] <testi> since i installed acrobat reader i am unable to open PDF files
[22:23] <testi> 1. i can't assign pdf type to kpdf, 2. when i explicitely open a file with kpdf it says, that it's can't open it
[22:23] <testi> -'s
[22:33] <testi> oh, looks like acrobat installation messed up file type associations. It now works again as i deleted the pdf association.
[22:34] <Laurent75> I've a question concerning ubuntu liveCD and my free (french) connection. Somebody can help ?
[22:36] <Laurent75> I've a question concerning ubuntu liveCD and my free (french) connection. Somebody can help ?
[22:43] <zabbadapp> what is the question?
[22:51] <rekusha> есть кто?
[22:52] <unai> hola, alguno que hable castellano?
[22:52] <rekusha> hi all
[22:52] <engineer> !es
[22:52] <unai> necesito ayuda
[22:52] <engineer> !ru
[22:52] <unai> como me conecto a un canal de ubuntu en castellano?
[22:53] <rickest> !pr
[22:53] <rekusha> people plz hpl
[22:53] <rickest> !br
[22:53] <rekusha> need moutn ntfs
[22:53] <rekusha> hwo know how?
[22:55] <rekusha> need moutn ntfs disk. any one can help me???
[22:56] <thomas> hi
[22:56] <dlee> rekusha: how do want to mount the disk?
[22:56] <dlee> and what have you tried so far?