[04:27] <iLLf8d> s_spiff, s/resurrection/attempted resurrection
[04:27] <Xoritor> it has a spinoff now too
[04:27] <goldplatedpentiu> Ubotu: no giv it up years ago
[04:27] <ubotu> goldplatedpentiu: Bugger all, i dunno
[04:27] <s_spiff> what? iLLf8d
[04:27] <goldplatedpentiu> sod it
[04:27] <Xoritor> there is another one called inferno that i have been looking at
[04:28] <Xoritor> its kinda cool
[04:28] <ompaul> goldplatedpentiu, it is a bot - and I would not be worried about that message
[04:28] <s_spiff> haha
[04:28] <poningru> hey guys how much does /boot usually take?
[04:28] <ompaul> goldplatedpentiu, unless you are in an internet cafe
[04:28] <bubblenut> This is what the output of fsck looks like http://pastebin.com/496418
[04:28] <Blissex> poningru: a few dozen MB at most
[04:28] <goldplatedpentiu> no home network
[04:28] <Xoritor> poningru, /dev/sda1             101M   18M   78M  19% /boot
[04:28] <burks> exit
[04:28] <burks> logout
[04:28] <s_spiff>  brenner , any clue what to do to avoid that mess?
[04:29] <burks> quit
[04:29] <ompaul> poningru, mine is - but I would suggest about 100 megs min for it 23M     /boot
[04:29] <Xoritor> poningru, not too much really ;-)
[04:29] <goldplatedpentiu> betta check 4 open ports
[04:29] <poningru> 100 mb sounds good then
[04:29] <poningru> thanks guys
[04:29] <goldplatedpentiu> F*****g nieghbors trying to nick free net again
[04:29] <bubblenut> How do I get the exit code of a command?
[04:29] <brenner> s_spiff: recommended way is to install kubuntu-desktop, then choose kde from the sessions menu at login
[04:29] <gnomefreak> why cant i find good gui irc cleint for windows (freE)
[04:30] <ompaul> gnomefreak, X-Chat
[04:30] <Xoritor> goldplatedpentiu, put them in a dmz and snoop everything they do... print out a "usage" bill and put it in ther mail box
[04:30] <s_spiff> umm, but then I would have to download GNOME
[04:30] <gnomefreak> looking for a different one
[04:30] <gnomefreak> im on xchat
[04:30] <brenner> ompaul: it has a usage limit though iirc
[04:30] <s_spiff>  which again would create the same problem!
[04:30] <SirKillalot> do you know a free STUN server?
[04:30] <goldplatedpentiu> nah iv got unlimited 4meg net
[04:30] <poningru> goldplatedpentiu: share the wealth then dude
[04:30] <Xoritor> goldplatedpentiu, bah... they can pay for it, so you dont have to pay as much
[04:30] <Xoritor> ;-)
[04:30] <bubblenut> gnomefreak: gaim?
[04:31] <poningru> goldplatedpentiu: yeah ask them if they can share the subscription costs
[04:31] <Xoritor> if i offer thats one thing... if they steal its another
[04:31] <goldplatedpentiu> if only i knew how to kill his laptop
[04:31] <Xoritor> hahahaha
[04:31] <gnomefreak> no rather have a "real" client not a multi client
[04:31] <poningru> goldplatedpentiu: join me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:32] <tbw> I need to be able to monitor my CPU temperature.... anyone know what I need to do>>
[04:32] <brenner> s_spiff: why would kubuntu-desktop install gnome?
[04:32] <Xoritor> can i go too?
[04:32] <Xoritor> heheh
[04:32] <gnomefreak> wanted to try ice chat but cant find download working anywhere
[04:32] <brenner> tbw: i just do: 'cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature''  there are tools out there though iirc
[04:32] <CanYouHelpMePlz> wow my printing issue was not due to ubuntu at all, was due to dirty ink cartridges, (the black one) i'm sorry ubuntu!
[04:33] <brenner> obviously i don't type all that, i have a bash alias set up
[04:33] <tbw> iirc?
[04:33] <CanYouHelpMePlz> irssi
[04:34] <tbw> brenner: there is nothing in that directory
[04:34] <brenner> tbw: if i remember correctly
[04:34] <ompaul> tbw, if I recall correctly there is iirc if iirc
[04:34] <tbw> yeah
[04:34] <tbw> Thanks.
[04:34] <brenner> tbw: not sure then.  i got that file on default install
[04:34] <tbw> Hrm...
[04:34] <tbw> I wonder what I am doing wrong.
[04:35] <grundo> !GNU
[04:35] <ubotu> grundo: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[04:35] <tbw> ACPI: Processor [CPU1]  (supports 8 throttling states)
[04:36] <grundo> !OpenGL
[04:36] <ubotu> grundo: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:36] <grundo> !yes
[04:36] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, grundo?
[04:36] <CanYouHelpMePlz> ubuntu uses HT right?
[04:36] <tbw> Yeha
[04:36] <grundo> HT?
[04:36] <tbw> I wonder if I'm using the wrong kernel imagine
[04:36] <CanYouHelpMePlz> seems like it did.
[04:36] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Hyper Threading
[04:36] <CanYouHelpMePlz> on p4's
[04:36] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: I believe the standard kernel has that option, yes
[04:37] <spacey_ki> you have to turn it on with the ht=on bootparamater
[04:37] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: option? how do i see if it'senabledthen
[04:37] <spacey_ki> and you need an SMP kernel
[04:37] <brenner> tbw: search the forum for 'temperature monitors'
[04:37] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do i see if ubuntu is using my hyper threading?
[04:37] <spacey_ki> CanYouHelpMePlz, well if you didn't turn it on, its off
[04:37] <tbw> brenner: well, I thought lm-sensors would do it
[04:37] <grundo> When the new ubuntu is going to release?
[04:37] <spacey_ki> and if its on you see two cpu's
[04:37] <spacey_ki> grundo, april
[04:38] <grundo> ok
[04:38] <CanYouHelpMePlz> spacey_ki: hmm how do i check to see if 2 cpus?
[04:38] <spacey_ki> CanYouHelpMePlz, system monitor
[04:38] <george_> How can I get Ubuntu to run Media Player 10?
[04:38] <gnomefreak> grundo, april 20th
[04:38] <grundo> :-)
[04:38] <brenner> tbw: and no luck?
[04:38] <CanYouHelpMePlz> spacey_ki: where is it in system monitor?
[04:38] <grundo> Even better
[04:38] <brenner> tbw: there are gui frontends to that iirc
[04:38] <spacey_ki> CanYouHelpMePlz, cpu tab?
[04:39] <spacey_ki> resources tab
[04:39] <brenner> george_: why would you want to?
[04:39] <CanYouHelpMePlz> only one.
[04:39] <CanYouHelpMePlz> !ht
[04:39] <ubotu> No idea, CanYouHelpMePlz
[04:39] <spacey_ki> CanYouHelpMePlz, so its off
[04:39] <CanYouHelpMePlz> hmm, can anyone point me in the direction of how to turn it on?
[04:39] <spacey_ki> CanYouHelpMePlz, search the wiki
[04:39] <grundo> :)
[04:39] <spacey_ki> its quite easy. just install smp kernel and add a bootparamter
[04:40] <tr00nd> Hi! does anyone here know if its possible to set the charset to an iso charset when mounting vfat devices with pmount?
[04:40] <brenner> bye george
[04:40] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: just cat /proc/cpuinfo frome the terminal
[04:40] <grundo> !ubotu
[04:40] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[04:40] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: see what it shows
[04:40] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: yeai see
[04:41] <tbw> brenner, : yeah says no sensors found
[04:41] <bubblenut> YAY! Thanks Blissex, PSP back up and running :)
[04:41] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: see two processors?
[04:41] <Dr_Fate> bin2iso?
[04:41] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: no
[04:41] <spacey_ki> mwe, no he doesn't
[04:41] <brenner> tbw: can't help you further sorry.  never gone far with it
[04:41] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: get a smp kernel then
[04:41] <tbw> well thanks anyway
[04:41] <Blissex> bubblenut: no probs. BTW, can you give some details on the connection? Thinking of buying a PSP for myself...
[04:42] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: how do i do that
[04:42] <djtrip> tes.hookedon-irc.net
[04:43] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: install it from synaptic or command line
[04:43] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: what would command line be?
[04:43] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: what linux image do you have now? eg dpkg -l|grep linux-image
[04:44] <gnubien> hi, ubuntu actually power's off my pc on shutdown; where to find the acpi commands that power off a pc on shutdown in ubuntu?
[04:44] <CanYouHelpMePlz> ii  linux-image-2.6.12-10-386              2.6.12-10.25           Linux kernel image for version 2.6.12 on 386
[04:44] <CanYouHelpMePlz> is the first one.. then the others are lower.
[04:44] <rickard> How do I unzip *.rar files in Linux?
[04:45] <Blissex> gnubien: it is in the kernel...
[04:45] <Blissex> rickard: 'unrar-nonfree'
[04:45] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: what's your processor?
[04:45] <brenner> rickard: you don't unzip, you unrar ... with unrar. :)
[04:45] <gnubien> Blissex: dang, hoping to get the acpi command to power off so i could use it with slackware
[04:45] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: pentium 4 3.0ghz /w HT
[04:45] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: http://pastebin.com/496435
[04:45] <Blissex> gnubien: and usually poweroff works better with APM
[04:45] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: sudo apt-get install linux-image-686-smp then
[04:46] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: check my pastebin so you know what i have
[04:46] <Zen> what is the command to install a package in a .tar.gz again?
[04:46] <ves> rickard: 'unzip' :)
[04:46] <grundo> make install
[04:46] <yatesy> read the INSTALL/README files
[04:46] <rickard> I don't find any manual for unrar syntax
[04:46] <grundo> Zen
[04:46] <gnubien> Blissex: know the command to power off with apm? or where i could find it and what its name is?
[04:46] <brenner> isn't the smp kernel for dual processor systems?
[04:46] <Blissex> gnubien: the command is always 'halt', but that just calls the kernel to power off. Then the kernel can either invoke the APM or ACPI BIOSes/drivers to power off. It is potluck.
[04:46] <ves> rickard: sorry, unrar rather. you don't unzip rar files but unrar em
[04:46] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz:  you want the 686 optimized kernel with smp support
[04:46] <Zen> grundo: there's a way to do it w/o extracting it first though I thought
[04:47] <ves> rickard: sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[04:47] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: so sudo apt-get install linux-image-686-smp then ?
[04:47] <gnubien> Blissex: ok, i see the sequence you mentioned
[04:47] <Blissex> gnubien: powering off is something that often does not work even is MS Windows...
[04:47] <kameron> how do i change my *default* browser.. so stuff doesn't open in konq, but mozilla when i'm in kde?
[04:47] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: yeah. then pastebin dpkg -l|grep linux-image again before you reboot
[04:47] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: ok
[04:48] <Blissex> kameron: KDE control centre, Components, choose the browser components.
[04:48] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: ok it's dling might be a minute it's like 60mb
[04:48] <gnubien> Blissex: ok, ubuntu live cd power's off my pc but havent figure out how to do it in slackware
[04:48] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: all right
[04:48] <rickard> ves: it says the package is unavaiable
[04:48] <kameron> how do i change my *default* browser.. so stuff doesn't open in konq, but mozilla when i'm in kde?
[04:48] <Blissex> gnubien: naaa, it could be that one is using a kernel version that is different from the other, or that one uses APM and the other ACPI, or whatever.
[04:48] <mwe> gnubien: probably gotta fiddle with apm
[04:49] <kameron> sorry, didn't mean to paste again.
[04:49] <ves> rickard: you might need to update your repositories, have you tried using:
[04:49] <ves> rickard: you might need to update your repositories, have you tried using: 15:49 < mwe> gnubien: probably gotta fiddle with apm
[04:49] <kameron> Blissex, thanks
[04:49] <ves> 15:49 < kameron> sorry, didn't mean to paste again.
[04:49] <CanYouHelpMePlz> kameron: in prefferred applications
[04:49] <kameron> ves: :P
[04:49] <gnubien> Blissex: ok, thanks for the info, will look into apm and acpi more
[04:49] <gnubien> mwe: ok, thanks
[04:49] <ves> oops, damn middle click
[04:49] <rickard> ves: whats that?
[04:49] <ves> rickard: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80295
[04:50] <brenner> rickard: you need to enable the multiverse repo
[04:50] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: http://pastebin.com/496440
[04:51] <grundo> hwo long it takes to install Qt open source version, im running it now and it seems to take lot of time!
[04:51] <jenda> Anyone know how to transcode from DVD iso image?
[04:51] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: it doesnt look like the one you had me download is for p4's if i'm not being stupid?
[04:51] <grundo> qt-x11-opensource-src-4.1.0
[04:51] <grundo> version
[04:52] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: what?
[04:52] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: http://pastebin.com/496440
[04:52] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: it says for celerons/pII/PIII but not p4 ?
[04:52] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp - Linux kernel image for version 2.6.12 on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP
[04:53] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: in my pastebin it doesn't show that
[04:53] <Zen> what do you call those nifty meters that are built-in to a desktop that shows like CPU and RAM usage, etc?  I want one
[04:53] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: that's because it's cut at the end
[04:53] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: try apt-cache search linux-image-686-smp
[04:53] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: ii  linux-image-686-smp                    <IP_ADDRESS>.1           Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/
[04:54] <CanYouHelpMePlz> thats how mine looks
[04:54] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[04:54] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: I don't understand that.
[04:54] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: ok, what do i do now to enable HT i got that installed.
[04:54] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: it is for p4 though
[04:55] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: just install it
[04:55] <prxq> i want to install ubuntu on a computer which already has slackware installed (which uses lilo). Will the install CD honour that and use lilo too?
[04:55] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: it is
[04:55] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: reboot?
[04:55] <Pygi> prxq: nop, it wont :P it will install grub
[04:55] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: try what I said and tell me what it says
[04:55] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: apt-cache search linux-image-686-smp
[04:55] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: the grep thing?
[04:55] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: apt-cache search linux-image-686-smp
[04:55] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: i did, it shows up correctl
[04:55] <prxq> Pygi: hm...
[04:55] <CanYouHelpMePlz> pete@LinuxBox:~$ sudo apt-cache search linux-image-686-smp
[04:55] <CanYouHelpMePlz> linux-image-686-smp - Linux kernel image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/PIV SMP.
[04:56] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: because dpkg by default cuts the end off long lines
[04:56] <brenner> Pygi: you *can* install lilo iirc.  select go back during the installation and it comes up with a menu.  i recall seeing 'install lilo' there
[04:56] <Pygi> breener: might be....
[04:56] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: i used apt-get install to get that smp kernal, so do i just reboot now?
[04:56] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: is the old kernel still in grub in case you for some reason can't boot the new kernel?
[04:56] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: how do i check?
[04:56] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: though that would not be likely to happen
[04:57] <scanwinder> ive installed the flash plugin for opera and im not getting any sound in it, i think its because im using alsa, anyone know how to make it work with alsa?
[04:57] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: pastebin /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:57] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: http://pastebin.com/496457
[04:58] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: good the old kernel is there
[04:58] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: ok, reboot?
[04:58] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: now reboot into the new one and cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:58] <rickard> "The package unrar-nonefree is not avaiable, but another package points to it."  What does that mean?
[04:58] <CanYouHelpMePlz> User interaction required! A new version of the Linux kernel has just been installed. We strongly  recommend that your machine is restarted as soon as possible to complete the system update.
[04:58] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: ok
[04:58] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: I'll be gone for 5-10 mins though
[04:58] <prxq> Pygi: how would it react if slackware used grub too?
[04:58] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: ok no problemo
[04:58] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: brb
[04:58] <katie_> How can I extract.rar ?
[04:59] <brenner> rickard: it means you still haven't enabled multiverse
[04:59] <rickard> brenner: how do I enable multiverse?
[04:59] <brenner> katie_: install unrar-nonfree from multiverse
[04:59] <Pygi> prxc: it is supposed to work....
[04:59] <brenner> ubotu: tell rickard about repos
[04:59] <katie_> what's multiverse
[04:59] <brenner> rickard: check your pms
[05:00] <Pygi> prxq: not sure tho, I use slackware for 8-9 years
[05:00] <Pygi> prxq: but I never dared to install anything else on that machine :)
[05:00] <katie_> mn
[05:00] <katie_> thanks
[05:00] <brenner> ubotu: tell katie_  about repos
[05:00] <brenner> heh
[05:00] <grundo> hi katie!
[05:01] <katie_> hey :p
[05:01] <grundo> :-)
[05:01] <brenner> this page explains it i think: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/components/document_view
[05:01] <rickard> brenner, I've done that
[05:02] <poningru> wtf there are girls in here?
[05:02] <brenner> rickard: did you reload/update?
[05:02] <Pygi> prxc: but you can install lilo as well if I am not mistaken in ubuntu in menu
[05:02] <rickard> brenner, yea
[05:02] <katie_> no
[05:02] <katie_> im a man
[05:02] <katie_> *rolls eyes*
[05:03] <kameron> prxc: if you need help with lilo, i'm running it.
[05:03] <brenner> rickard: paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to a pastebin
[05:03] <scanwinder> can someone help me get sound working in the linux flash plugin? i think im having problems because im using alsa rather than oss
[05:04] <Augustus-> could someone help me ?
[05:04] <Katie^> bbs
[05:04] <Katie^> movie
[05:04] <Pygi> !patience
[05:04] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[05:04] <thoreauputic> !tell scanwinder about dmix
[05:04] <Augustus-> im having some problems with the X server
[05:04] <Katie^> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v515/bloodylamer/bastardly-photos/0505/album6/nicole-richie01280503.jpg :(
[05:05] <rickard> brenner, ok.. but what is a pastebin?
[05:05] <kameron> nicole's gross.
[05:05] <brenner> !pastebin
[05:05] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:06] <jono> hi all
[05:06] <thegladiator> i have this source with me , can I make a deb from it ?
[05:06] <jono> is the monthly ubuntu wallpaper still going?
[05:06] <Pygi> gladiator: yup
[05:06] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[05:06] <rickard> brenner, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6808
[05:06] <gnomefreak> pong :)
[05:06] <thegladiator> how can this b e doe
[05:06] <gnomefreak> im here kind of
[05:06] <thegladiator> done*
[05:06] <Katie^> kameron, she never used to be
[05:06] <Pygi> freaky: not the entire command index :DDD
[05:07] <Katie^> until she decided to go all bulemic
[05:07] <thegladiator> like its got this ./configure stuff etc...
[05:07] <thegladiator> but doesnt work
[05:07] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:07] <thegladiator> trying to make a deb and try
[05:07] <kameron> Katie^: #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:07] <gnomefreak> im trying to figure this out
[05:07] <thegladiator> Pygi, could you tell me hwo ?
[05:07] <brenner> jono: i think it's been debunked.  but have you checked out the ubuntu-calendar* packages?
[05:07] <Pygi> gladiator: you can visit #motu and/or #motu-school for that
[05:07] <spike> hi
[05:07] <spike> can anybody help me with font/utf8/unicode issues?
[05:07] <Pygi> gladiator: but install-check makes simple packages as well
[05:08] <thoreauputic> checkinstall
[05:08] <Pygi> that :p
[05:08] <grundo> hwo long it takes to install Qt open source version, im running it now and it seems to take lot of time!
[05:08] <thegladiator> checkinstall shud be run in the command line ?
[05:08] <thoreauputic> !info checkinstall
[05:08] <ubotu> checkinstall: (installation tracker), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1.5.3-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 34 kB, Installed size: 132 kB
[05:08] <gnomefreak> checkinstall is the bomb of installers
[05:08] <martalli> Can I ask for some help on setting up a Netgear MA401 802.11b pcmcia card with kubuntu 10.5 on my thinkpad 600e?
[05:08] <gnomefreak> 10.5?
[05:09] <Pygi> lol  :)
[05:09] <Pygi> freaky: will the index be done today?
[05:09] <martalli> 5.10 lol I'm just starting out here
[05:09] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: you here?
[05:09] <djtrip> anybody know what 128 mb in kb is
[05:09] <gnomefreak> this is not cool :((( im scared to do anything
[05:09] <thegladiator> thegladiator@thegladiator:~/Desktop/crystal-vista$ checkinstall
[05:09] <thegladiator> bash: checkinstall: command not found
[05:09] <Pygi> djtrip: 128*1024
[05:09] <thoreauputic> !128 * 1024
[05:09] <brenner> rickard: sorry my firefox seems to be acting up.  could someone check out his sources.list? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6808  he's trying to enable multiverse to get unrar-nonfree
[05:09] <ubotu> 131072
[05:09] <Pygi> freaky: why is that????
[05:09] <Xoritor> how easy is it to "upgrade" from one release to the next?
[05:09] <thegladiator> how to check install ?
[05:09] <thegladiator> !checkinstall
[05:09] <ubotu> methinks checkinstall is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[05:09] <Pygi> xoritor: it's easy :P
[05:10] <djtrip> 1024
[05:10] <gnomefreak> thegla	you have to install it first
[05:10] <AJA-> hi, how can i use cpuburn installed with synaptic?
[05:10] <CanYouHelpMePlz> 131072
[05:10] <thegladiator> ah
[05:10] <thegladiator> and then ?
[05:10] <gnomefreak> pygi	im playing with boxedirc
[05:10] <grundo> !hwo long it takes to install Qt open source version, im running it now and it seems to take lot of time!
[05:10] <thegladiator> it doesnt install :)
[05:10] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, grundo
[05:10] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: I'm here
[05:10] <thegladiator> when I use ./configure
[05:10] <Pygi> freaky: ah, well :P
[05:10] <thegladiator> some weird erors come up
[05:10] <Pygi> freaky: so, will you be able to write that index?
[05:10] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: ok i'm back on smp kernel, will i need to select it manually in grub each time or will it remember my choice?
[05:10] <gnomefreak> pygi	yes i will have it for you tonight or tomorrow
[05:11] <Pygi> freaky: k
[05:11] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: have you installed build-essential and the required -dev packages ?
[05:11] <thegladiator> yes
[05:11] <thegladiator> i have
[05:11] <thegladiator> this is regarding kwin or something
[05:11] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: I think it'll be the default. btw just uninstall the old kernel if this one works
[05:11] <thegladiator> is that an additional package or something ?
[05:11] <enrico> Hello.  In breezy, it seems that the package xfonts-chinese-big installs the fonts in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc instead of the new /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc.  Is there a way of making use of the xfonts-chinese-big fonts anyway?
[05:11] <gnomefreak> apt-get build-dep <packagename>
[05:11] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: ok, how doi do that
[05:12] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: sudo apt-get remove <name of old kernel image>
[05:12] <enrico> soryr, xfonts-intl-chinese-big
[05:12] <gnomefreak> brb i can barely see
[05:12] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: how do i find the old name?
[05:12] <enrico> and xfonts-intl-chinese
[05:13] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: dpkg -l|grep linux-image and look for the old one
[05:13] <rickard> brenner, what is supposed to be written in sources.list?
[05:13] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: what does cat /proc/cpuinfo show now?
[05:13] <brenner> rickard: looks like it's missing ... replace the contents with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[05:13] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: it shows 2 processors :-)
[05:13] <brenner> rickard: you can do that with: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:14] <AJA-> how can i use cpuburn installed with synaptic?
[05:14] <brenner> rickard: save and close, then sudo apt-get update
[05:14] <thegladiator> !paste
[05:14] <ubotu> paste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[05:14] <martalli> My MA401 is seen in cardctl, and iwconfig reports that eth0 is configured with  the proper essid, and the correct wep key is in place
[05:14] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: it told me to re-run lilo? can i just ignore since i dont use lilo ?
[05:14] <rickard> brenner, ok
[05:15] <martalli> Somehow, I am not connecting...system settings-> network show two little red antennas "eth0 <IP_ADDRESS> dhcp enabled wireless network device"
[05:15] <thegladiator> ./configure works well , make doesnt work well ! I am tryin to install a window theme for kde . the error is like this --- http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6809
[05:15] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: yeah ignore that
[05:15] <thegladiator> i cant understand the cause of the error
[05:15] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: the grub part finished fine
[05:16] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: now i need to reinstall vmware i guess, since i got a new kernel.
[05:16] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: you need to rebuild the modules at least
[05:16] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: how do i do that?
[05:16] <brenner> thegladiator: you poor bastard.  you still doing that? :-/
[05:16] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: I think sudo vmware-config.pl is sufficient
[05:17] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: I not 100% positive though
[05:17] <thegladiator> shudnt I be doing that ?
[05:17] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[05:17] <CanYouHelpMePlz> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
[05:17] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: what would i put for that.
[05:18] <gnomefreak> vmware isnt GNU?
[05:18] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: oh you need kernel headers for your kernel. abort and install that
[05:18] <lucasvo> gnomefreak: of course not...
[05:18] <brenner> thegladiator: no, i meant i feel sorry for you
[05:18] <Blissex> gnomefreak: no, it is proprietary, and was sold for lik $800m recently.
[05:18] <lucasvo> gnomefreak: it is commercial
[05:18] <Blissex> gnomefreak: have a look at QEMU
[05:18] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: ok, how do i ge the headers.
[05:18] <thegladiator> brenner, you neednt be . i know to take care of myself
[05:18] <dylan_> why isnt there a Thesaurs option in OpenOffice.org yet, like there is in Microsoft Office?
[05:18] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-686-smp
[05:19] <thegladiator> brenner, neither me
[05:19] <thoreauputic> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:19] <gnomefreak> lucasvo, im not even sure what it is i asked the bot he gave me link to download it and he says you did pay for it right?
[05:19] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: ok installed,
[05:19] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: what do i put when it asks me where they are?
[05:19] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: maybe you need the kernel source as well. not sure
[05:19] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: try just enter
[05:19] <thegladiator> its gone to trash anyway , it doesnt deserve a place in my system if its that difficult
[05:20] <martalli> Is there a better place to ask a question about my wireless card?
[05:20] <mwe> !wireless
[05:20] <ubotu> somebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[05:20] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: yes worked, thanks a ton!
[05:20] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: great
[05:20] <brenner> i think you're missing this file: libacl.la  you can use packages.ubuntu.com to do a file search
[05:20] <martalli> thank you
[05:20] <brenner> thegladiator: ^^
[05:21] <thoreauputic> !find libacl.la
[05:21] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: i cant believe i didnt have HT running all this time, like 1 1/2 - 2 months .. and i didn't know it.. heh ubuntu never seemed slow enough to notice i guess :-)
[05:21] <alekandr> How does one go abouts editing gnomes, right click menu? I want to add gnome-terminal to it?
[05:21] <brenner> mwe: if you aren't getting an answer, keep coming back.  the wireless gurus might just be asleep
[05:21] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: heh. not everything is optimized for it anyway though but still :|
[05:21] <kemik> alekandr:  sudo apt-get intall open-nautilus-terminal
[05:22] <alekandr> CanYouHelpMePlz: How did you get ht to run?
[05:22] <thegladiator> brenner, thanks , now i'll have to take it fromthe trash :D
[05:22] <alekandr> kemik: thanks :)
[05:22] <brenner> hehe
[05:22] <thoreauputic> !tell alekandr about openterm
[05:22] <thoreauputic> !openterm
[05:22] <ubotu> To add the right-click option for opening gnome-terminal on Breezy, install the  nautilus-open-terminal package
[05:22] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: better then not having it
[05:22] <CanYouHelpMePlz> alekandr: i installed the kernel
[05:22] <alekandr> oh man, no sudo for me :)
[05:22] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: sure
[05:22] <Zen> I'll tell you what I really love about linux versus windows--when you "kill" something it actually dies
[05:23] <gnomefreak> no sudo on ubuntu?
[05:23] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: you didn't even have a 686 optimized kernel :)
[05:23] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: so i should be all good to go now?
[05:23] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: yeah
[05:23] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: I think so
[05:24] <Zen> for a person running 32-bit on an Athlon64, would it benefit me to run the K7 kernel instead of the i386?
[05:24] <whaley> question: I have an external hdd that's formated as ext2,  I can't get it mount with read/write, only read.  The entry in fstab looks like: /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ext2    defaults        0       0      | any suggestions,  should it even be in fstab?
[05:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'libacl.la' (1 shown): (/lib/libacl.la, /usr/lib/libacl.la) in libdevel/libacl1-dev.
[05:24] <alekandr> Im running  breezy i386 on a amd64fx cpu
[05:24] <gnomefreak> Zen, you most likely wont see a difference
[05:24] <alekandr> not enough support for 64bit yet
[05:25] <alekandr> everyone should get amd;s ;)
[05:25] <insomnd> anybody every got this in mplayer while playing real stream? -> alsa-play: xrun of at least 0.022 msecs. resetting stream
[05:25] <dylan_> is there a thesaurus option available in OpenOffice, like the one in MS Office?
[05:25] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: ubotu found the package for your missing file ^^^
[05:25] <Zen> alekandr: I know--I opted for 32-bit because there's actually 3D with ATI
[05:25] <brenner> rickard: how's it going?
[05:25] <insomnd> followed by some other errors... it causes chipping of the sound
[05:25] <gnomefreak> dylan_, yes there is a thesaurse in the repos look in synaptic for it
[05:26] <mwe> gnomefreak: but there is at least theretically a benefit from running an optimized kernel
[05:26] <dylan_> gnomefreak, thanks
[05:26] <gnomefreak> there is? mwe
[05:26] <gnomefreak> yw dylan_
[05:26] <rickard> brenner - it worked all fine :)
[05:26] <Zen> though, I've found more support for 64-bit linux than XP64 so far
[05:26] <Zen> which is kinda funny
[05:26] <thegladiator> thoreauputic, thank you , i found it from adept as wekk
[05:27] <brenner> rickard: nice.  you've set up your repos now, so you hopefully won't complain about not finding stuff again. :D
[05:27] <thegladiator> well*
[05:27] <thoreauputic> thegladiator: OK cool :)
[05:28] <ubuntu> ?
[05:28] <thoreauputic> ubuntu    !
[05:28] <rickard> umm, anyone knows how to install cedega?
[05:29] <gnomefreak> !cedega
[05:29] <ubotu> it has been said that cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[05:29] <rickard> okok
[05:30] <grundo> still running that Qt. . .  install
[05:31] <whaley> question: I have an external hdd that's formated as ext2,  I can't get it mount with read/write, only read.  The entry in fstab looks like: /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ext2    defaults        0       0      | any suggestions?  should it even be in fstab?
[05:31] <psusi> whaley, yes it should be in fstab.. that looks fine... it should mount r/w... what makes you thinki it isn't?
[05:32] <DShepherd> ubuntu has fast user switching?
[05:32] <whaley> because i can't creat folders to it
[05:32] <whaley> directories rather
[05:32] <psusi> whaley, you probably don't have permission to
[05:32] <psusi> whaley, look at the permissions on the folder you are trying to create a new folder in
[05:33] <whaley> i'm trying to create it in the root of the partition
[05:33] <psusi> look at the permissions on the root then
[05:33] <DShepherd> whaley: can you sudo?
[05:33] <brenner> DShepherd: i've heard that one before.  the answer was no iirc
[05:33] <s_spiff> whaley, u had posted this q on forums?
[05:33] <whaley> erm, wait, its mounted to /media/sda1
[05:34] <DShepherd> brenner: really? :(
[05:34] <whaley> which is r-x
[05:34] <whaley> let me try a chown
[05:34] <whaley> s_spiff, nope
[05:34] <brenner> DShepherd: yes, unless my memory is shot
[05:34] <s_spiff> then i tihnk some1 has ...check it out
[05:34] <whaley> i did look around for a bit, but this probably seems to be due to my stubborness to look further :)
[05:34] <thegladiator> does any one use knqueror here ?
[05:34] <DShepherd> brenner: what about dapper?
[05:34] <brenner> DShepherd: no clue
[05:35] <CanYouHelpMePlz> windows boots up so much faster in vmware, then real xp it's hilarious
[05:35] <DShepherd> thegladiator: you may find more users that use konqueror in #kubuntu
[05:35] <s_spiff> the real xp?
[05:35] <grundo> !kubuntu
[05:35] <ubotu> rumour has it, kubuntu is Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[05:35] <DShepherd> brenner: thanks
[05:35] <thegladiator> i am right there , they are all on dope seemingly all asleep
[05:35] <monzie> hi all
[05:35] <s_spiff> rumour?
[05:35] <brenner> DShepherd: np.  hit the forum though.  i could be wrong
[05:35] <monzie> wanted some help in building GNOME from scratch under ubuntu
[05:36] <DShepherd> brenner: will do
[05:36] <thegladiator> any knqueror users who have installed #kubuntu-dekstop ?
[05:36] <CanYouHelpMePlz> s_spiff: yea the real x
[05:36] <grundo> no...
[05:36] <whaley> psusi, it was a permissions problem and not a mounting/filesystem problem - thanks alot for your help :)
[05:36] <grundo> i have Gnome
[05:36] <monzie> is it possible to build GNOME from scratch via apt-get source in Ubuntu?
[05:36] <thoreauputic> monzie: why would you do that ?
[05:37] <thoreauputic> mondi: it would just replicate what comes by default...
[05:37] <Dariuss> hey, can someone help me right quick? trying to install thunderbird...
[05:37] <s_spiff> what does monzie 's queston mean?
[05:37] <monzie> to get gentoo like performance without too much headache, thoreauputic
[05:37] <grundo> !man
[05:37] <ubotu> The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man man" at the command line, or see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[05:37] <monzie> to opimize it for my AMD axp
[05:37] <drmr> !man
[05:37] <mwe> monzie: but you wont that way
[05:37] <gaz> is there a file where i would put startup commands/script equivalent to /etc/rc.local in ubuntu?
[05:37] <grundo> !ruby
[05:37] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, grundo
[05:37] <thoreauputic> monzie: compiling stuff makes very little performance difference actually
[05:38] <mwe> !info ruby
[05:38] <grundo> ;)
[05:38] <monzie> after i get the source cant i set the CFLAGS thoreauputic , mwe
[05:38] <kemik> and if you consider compiletimes
[05:38] <grundo> !c++
[05:38] <kemik> the "speed increase" is all lost
[05:38] <monzie> to compile tit for my processor?
[05:38] <grundo> !Finland
[05:38] <ubotu> grundo: What?
[05:38] <kemik> grundo:  dont play with the bot
[05:38] <thoreauputic> monzie: you would only get a few percentage points improvement - it really isn't worth it
[05:38] <grundo> ok
[05:38] <mwe> !info ruby1.6
[05:38] <kemik> grundo:  or atleast do it in pm with it
[05:38] <ubotu> ruby1.6: (An interpreter of object-oriented scripting language Ruby 1.6.x), section universe/interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.6.8-12sarge1 (breezy), Packaged size: 154 kB, Installed size: 232 kB
[05:39] <grundo> its a damm fine one. .
[05:39] <monzie> then why are the gentoo guys mad after compling systems thoreauputic ?
[05:39] <kemik> it possesses great wisdom :)
[05:39] <thoreauputic> monzie: because they drink the kool aid :)
[05:39] <kemik> monzie:  because they are just taht.. *mad*
[05:39] <erUSUL> gaz, no but you can do one. edit a file called p.e local in /etc/init.d/ make it exec and add it to boot process with update-rc.d
[05:39] <feestbijtje> some one knows howto remove installed programs from dpkg
[05:40] <grundo> can someone help me? its a question matter of life and dead!!
[05:40] <leonardo> shower time brb
[05:40] <hmp> !info sylpheed
[05:40] <ubotu> sylpheed: (Light weight e-mail client with GTK+), section universe/mail, is optional. Version: 2.1.1-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 489 kB, Installed size: 1244 kB
[05:40] <thoreauputic> feestbijtje:  sudo dpkg -r <packaename>
[05:40] <kemik> grundo:  just ask the real question  ;)
[05:40] <feestbijtje> thnx thoreauputic
[05:40] <monzie> okay, thoreauputic
[05:40] <hyakuhei> feestbijtje:  dpkg --help | grep remove
[05:40] <hyakuhei>   dpkg -r|--remove | -P|--purge <package name> ... | -a|--pending
[05:40] <boxy> Hey what would cause gnome-session to take FOREVER to load it takes like 8 minutes, could it be a problem with my dns setup?
[05:40] <gaz> erUSUL, ty i'll try tat
[05:40] <hyakuhei> operative@serenity:~$ boxy esd can stop it loading if something is broken with sound
[05:41] <monzie> suppose i want to do it to check out the actual performance diff,, then it's apt-get source *what* here, thoreauputic ?
[05:41] <hyakuhei> take esd out of the gnome startup process and try again
[05:41] <grundo> i downloaded Qt open source editon from their web site and then i run normally thing make install etc..  and now it takes foreever to install!!!
[05:41] <kameron> i have a .bin file, containing vcd data.. can i run it in a loopback like an iso?
[05:41] <boxy> hyakuhei, im listening to Lynyrd Skynyrd on Rythembox
[05:41] <hyakuhei> boxy: doesnt matter
[05:41] <boxy> So it's safe to assume my sound isn't broken?
[05:41] <grundo> hwo long  it takes???
[05:41] <hyakuhei> boxy: no
[05:41] <erUSUL> grundo, why would you do that?
[05:41] <grundo> what?
[05:42] <alekandr> thoreauputic: i installed nautilas-open-terminal, how do i configure it?
[05:42] <thoreauputic> monzie: probably apt-get build-dep ubuntu-desktop to get deps - never tried it and never will :)
[05:42] <boxy> hyakuhei, so what should i try? or do you have a link?
[05:42] <hyakuhei> boxy: sound could be coming through esd / artsd (kde) / alsa / oss(emulation)
[05:42] <erUSUL> grundo, a few hours in a decent machine? ;)
[05:42] <thoreauputic> alekandr: just right click the deesktop and you should see a menu entry
[05:42] <monzie> that didnt work thoreauputic . had tried it earlier
[05:42] <hyakuhei> boxy: when its taking ages to boot, drop to another terminal, run top and see whats going on
[05:42] <grundo> /:
[05:42] <hyakuhei> or pstree gdm
[05:42] <erUSUL> grundo, compile qt from source
[05:42] <thoreauputic> monzie: if you want gentoo, install gentoo
[05:42] <alekandr> thoreauputic: Nope :(
[05:42] <kemik> alekandr:  restart gnome
[05:43] <grundo> my computer is HP Omnibook laptop
[05:43] <thoreauputic> alekandr: try killall nautilus - it should reappear
[05:43] <boxy> hyakuhei, esd is running in top is that good?
[05:43] <alekandr> ok
[05:43] <grundo> and it takes time time time.  .
[05:43] <monzie> nope, then i dont have the ease of use  and community of Ubuntu thoreauputic
[05:43] <grundo> i just ..
[05:43] <kemik> monzie:  there really is no point in compiliing programs for the "speed increase"
[05:43] <monzie> hmm
[05:43] <hyakuhei> boxy: wont hurt anything if you kill it, see if your boot speeds up when you do
[05:44] <boxy> hyakuhei, okay thanks is there anything else i can try while im at it?
[05:44] <grundo> if someone have do the same and tell mee hwo long it takes. .
[05:44] <kemik> monzie:  especially since compiletimes can be hours for large stuff such as Gnome etc etc
[05:44] <hyakuhei> boxy: dont know really, just watch top, see if anything is maxing out
[05:44] <boxy> hyakuhei, i figure i might as well try a few things since it takes like 8 minutes to load
[05:44] <thoreauputic> monzie: as I said, what you are doing is pointless - if you want to do it , research it - I don't know the answer sorry
[05:44] <boxy> aight thanks
[05:44] <boxy> btw how do i set my domain name?
[05:44] <C-O-L-T> How can I play a microsoft game in Linux
[05:44] <C-O-L-T> ??
[05:44] <kemik> grundo:  it all depends on how fast your computer is etc etc.. or do you think the installation has hung ?
[05:44] <monzie> ok kemik , can you atleast tell me for what platform are Breezy packages compiled for ?
[05:44] <boxy> and is there really anything it should be set to?
[05:44] <kremonte> C-O-L-T:  wine or cedega
[05:44] <monzie> i mean the pc edition..
[05:44] <alekandr> thoreauputic: thanks alot mate :)
[05:44] <grundo> yes
[05:44] <grundo> i thing it has a hung
[05:44] <thoreauputic> alekandr: no worries :)
[05:45] <monzie> thanks thoreauputic
[05:45] <kemik> monzie:  x86, 64bit, ppc at least
[05:45] <C-O-L-T> kremonte: Can I play NFS Most Wanted with it?
[05:45] <grundo> it keeps rolling rolling rolling . .
[05:45] <kremonte> check their databases :)
[05:45] <kremonte> !tell C-O-L-T about cedega
[05:45] <monzie> no i meant for what processor the x86 version is optimized for .. kemik
[05:45] <boxy> hyakuhei, would setting my domain name on this computer help, if so how do i set it?
[05:45] <erUSUL> grundo, it will take a long (hours) time is c++ code and it is a large codebase
[05:45] <whyameye> is there a way to mount an SMB network as a drive or something like in WinXP? I want to be able to load and save files from my apps through the network to my Windows machine but I can't seem to figure out how to do this
[05:46] <monzie> like fc4 optimizes it for p4
[05:46] <grundo> :(
[05:46] <rickard> I installed wine, how do i start it?
[05:46] <kemik> monzie:  depends on the -deb but the kernels has k6-k7 586-686 etc
[05:46] <hyakuhei> boxy: nope, shouldnt effect the load time of gnome at all
[05:46] <grundo> 4 h?
[05:46] <boxy> kay thanks bbs
[05:46] <grundo> 5 h?
[05:46] <hyakuhei> rickard: wine
[05:46] <kremonte> rickard:  wine file.exe
[05:46] <monzie> ya....
[05:46] <kemik> monzie:  but sticking with 386 will be *just fine*
[05:46] <thoreauputic> monzie: if you want better GUI speed, install xubuntu-desktop and/or install lighter apps  - e.g. sylpheed for mail etc
[05:46] <monzie> okay..
[05:46] <rickard> But it said it was a grahical user interface in wine
[05:47] <thoreauputic> monzie: you might like the kazehakaze browser for instance
[05:47] <monzie> i also read in the net about tinkering with the system linker to make things faster
[05:47] <whyameye> rickard: what are you trying to do?
[05:47] <grundo> it's qt-x11-opensource version if it has enything do whit the time issue. .
[05:47] <monzie> ok thoreauputic , dsl uses sylpheed, its quite lightweight
[05:47] <rickard> whyameye, I installed something called xwine with synapic and now I trying to run it
[05:47] <grundo> what's it is really?
[05:47] <Blissex> monzie: I have some delightful ''speed up KDE'' advice here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxKDE.html#performance
[05:48] <grundo> it's qt-x11-opensource version
[05:48] <grundo> damm that enter. .
[05:48] <monzie> Sorry Blissex , I am a GNOME developer
[05:48] <thoreauputic> monzie: yes, sylpheed is light - I use it as my email client here
[05:48] <whyameye> I don't know anything about xwine. I can tell you that with regular wine you are better off getting it from the wine repository directly than from ubuntu's repo, assuming you are on Breezy.
[05:48] <_jahshua-> can anyone tell me a good cd ripper that comes installed on gnome ubuntu ?
[05:49] <[MusasHi] >     ubuntu' ?
[05:49] <erUSUL> grundo, you can install qt from repos why are you compiling it from source?
[05:49] <thoreauputic> monzie: you might want sylpheed-gtk2 (I think that's the package)
[05:49] <monzie> i have started disliking GNOME since the moment i became a GNOME developer
[05:49] <_jahshua-> sorry
[05:49] <leftist> hi
[05:49] <_jahshua-> cd write
[05:49] <Blissex> monzie: and general ''speed up Linux stuff on small mem machines'' here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno05-4th.html#051008
[05:49] <leftist> in open office which one is the excel one?
[05:49] <s_spiff> monzie, why?
[05:49] <_jahshua-> to burn .iso's with
[05:49] <grundo> duno..
[05:49] <grundo> repos?
[05:49] <Blissex> monzie: and my KDE advice is 90% valid for GNOME too.
[05:49] <monzie> sure thoreauputic , but i dont think it can do HTML mail
[05:49] <grundo> tell me hwo to stop that ins.. and use the repos pls
[05:49] <s_spiff> whats the advice Blissex ?
[05:49] <whyameye> leftist: oocalc or something like that...
[05:49] <monzie> ok Blissex , will check it out then, thanks for the help
[05:49] <Rasymas> WHO WANTS TO HELP ME???
[05:49] <thoreauputic> monzie: HTML mail is evil ;)
[05:49] <leftist> ahh thanks
[05:50] <yacc> Raskall: With what?
[05:50] <whyameye> how do I save onto a network from a typical app?
[05:50] <Rasymas> mouse
[05:50] <thoreauputic> Raskall: don't shout
[05:50] <thoreauputic> oops
[05:50] <monzie> they are moving very slowly s_spiff
[05:50] <Rasymas> when i load up my ubuntu, it's not moving
[05:50] <thoreauputic> Rasymas: don't shout
[05:50] <Blissex> monzie:  and to GNOME and memory usage, some sad news and reflections here: http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno05-2nd.html#050512
[05:50] <s_spiff> ohh ok...as in,...development wise?
[05:50] <monzie> but my gf sends me loads of ecards thoreauputic ;-)
[05:50] <_jahshua-> can anyone tell me a good cd burning program to burn .iso images with
[05:50] <mwe> Rasymas: just ask a question and we'll try to help you. don't be lame
[05:50] <grundo> :)
[05:50] <kremonte> :o the L word!
[05:50] <erUSUL> grundo, do a 'Crtl + C' in the terminal
[05:50] <Blissex> s_spiff: well, it is in those links, but the main advice is to fix some appallingly stupid defaults in the kernel memory management and IO management.
[05:51] <alekandr> Anyone know about HT? My amdfx supports it, and im sure i read somewhere, that it needs to be enabled?
[05:51] <DShepherd> _jahshua-:  you can right-click and click burn.. that works well in gnome
[05:51] <grundo> and the repos thing?
[05:51] <thoreauputic> monzie: you can open html from sylpheed in your browser
[05:51] <erUSUL> grundo, use synaptic
[05:51] <s_spiff> huh?
[05:51] <grundo> ?
[05:51] <whyameye> _jahshua-: I like K3B, but it doesn't come preinstalled with ubuntu
[05:51] <Blissex> alekandr: it is usually no worth it a lot.
[05:51] <[MusasHi] > ?????  ! :=
[05:51] <grundo> details pls
[05:51] <erUSUL> grundo,  System>Admin>Synaptic
[05:51] <monzie> i am gonna do an apt-get sylpheed right now thoreauputic
[05:51] <grundo> and..?
[05:52] <alekandr> Blissex: is there no real performance upgrade?
[05:52] <Blissex> alekandr: in part because multiple threads means cache interference etc. But if you got the right app it can give around 30%. All you need is an SMP kernel.
[05:52] <gnomefreak> why would anyone make a picture a tar thats just nuts :(
[05:52] <thoreauputic> monzie: look for the gtk2 version - it fits in with gnome better
[05:52] <whyameye> I have a network server mounted but I can't find it when I go to save files in my apps...
[05:52] <monzie> and i have to stick with GNOME as my DE, otherwise how will i be able to contribute patches
[05:52] <grundo> i have Finnish version of ubuntu. .
[05:52] <grundo> what's is synaptic?
[05:52] <grundo> cant find it . .
[05:52] <Blissex> monzie: that's fine, just at least fix the kernel fuckups as reported in my links.
[05:52] <alekandr> Blissex: I though smp was for duel processor?
[05:52] <gnomefreak> it is
[05:52] <alekandr> grundo: system > administration > synaptic
[05:53] <Blissex> alekandr: HT is a form of dual processor...
[05:53] <DShepherd> grundo: system > administration > synaptic
[05:53] <grundo> there is log out
[05:53] <grundo> thing
[05:53] <alekandr> DShepherd: beat you ;)
[05:53] <erUSUL> grundo, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto?highlight=%28synaptic%29
[05:53] <monzie> how good is the sylpheed-claws-gtk2 version thoreauputic ?
[05:53] <_jahshua-> whyameye: sudo apt-get install K3B   ?
[05:53] <McJerry> i have nvidia with twinview....my tv via svidia is what i want as my primary display. my crt is on the right, my tv is on the left, when i startx now, the crt is my pimary display, how do i swap to make tv the primary display
[05:54] <thoreauputic> monzie: don't know, sorry - sylpheed claws is a bit more bleeding edge
[05:54] <gaz> anyone know a repository where i can get azureus
[05:54] <monzie> will try Blissex
[05:54] <gaz> ?
[05:54] <mwe> do you need to do anything special to get tvout to work with fglrx?
[05:54] <thoreauputic> monzie: it is probably very good - I used to use sylpheed claws a year or two ago
[05:54] <monzie> and i need it to automatically sort my mails (from Ubuntu and GNOME mailing lists :-)
[05:54] <grundo> ah!
[05:54] <grundo> Thank you!
[05:54] <alekandr> how do i 100% make sure my cpu supports HT?
[05:55] <whyameye> _jahshua-: yep that should work. k3b
[05:55] <grundo> then i search Qt?
[05:55] <thoreauputic> monzie: no problem - just set your filters
[05:55] <grundo> package..
[05:55] <alekandr> cat /proc/cpuinfo says nothing
[05:55] <Rasymas> guys, I have problems with my mouse. As soon as I load up Ubuntu, my mouse stucks in the middle of the screen, it's not moving at all! Any ideas how to solve this?
[05:55] <gnomefreak> Rasymas, usb or ps/2
[05:55] <thoreauputic> monzie: I have all my mailing lists automatically filtered on receipt
[05:55] <DocTomoe> Hm, Can someone please pinpoint me to how to install a specific version of a package via apt-get, even if its dependencies are broken?
[05:55] <Blissex> Rasymas: looks like your mouse is not configured at all.
[05:55] <McJerry> Rasymas, change settings in /etc/X11/xorg.conf for your mouse
[05:55] <grundo> do you have wireless mouse?
[05:56] <Blissex> Rasymas: or configured wrong.
[05:56] <grundo> you may chek out its battery. .
[05:56] <whyameye> Rasymas: is this a desktop or laptop? Do you know for sure the hardware is ok i.e. does it work in Windows etc.
[05:56] <thoreauputic> DocTomoe: if the deps are broken, it won't work - by definition
[05:56] <alekandr> Blissex: any command to check the processor is ht enabled?
[05:56] <monzie> okay thoreauputic , i am going in for sylpheed-claws-gtk2 then!
[05:56] <grundo> in synaptic do i search for Qt package???
[05:56] <thoreauputic> monzie: fine - you can always uninstall if you don't like it
[05:57] <mwe> alekandr: you can see if your kernel has ht enabled
[05:57] <Blissex> alekandr: no idea. Try 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' and then look up the id string with Google and suitable keywords.
[05:57] <erUSUL> grundo, yes
[05:57] <Rasymas> I have a mouse conected via COM1
[05:57] <alekandr> mwe: how?
[05:57] <alekandr> Blissex: ;) tytyty
[05:57] <erUSUL> grundo, and mark it for intalation
[05:57] <gnomefreak> if you search for qt it should bring up all related packages for it
[05:57] <mwe> alekandr: get an smp kernel and cat /proc/cpuinfo and see if it shows two cpus
[05:57] <monzie> sure , thoreauputic
[05:58] <mwe> alekandr: you _need_ an smp kernel
[05:58] <monzie> the best thing about open source software would be the repositories, i guess
[05:58] <alekandr> mwe: a smp kernel wont just fuck my pc up right?
[05:58] <Blissex> alekandr: no, SMP will even work on a single CPU
[05:58] <alekandr> Ok :]
[05:58] <mwe> alekandr: hopefully not. keep the old one for backup in case it wont boot though
[05:58] <monzie> I am not a kernel develper Blissex , just a 22 yr old guy who's just joined as a GNOME developer
[05:58] <Blissex> alekandr: even if SMP sometimes is a bit less reliable then single processor.
[05:58] <Rasymas> So, I have a desktop, mouse works fine on windows, i'm using it now, it's some old a4 tech mouse conected via COM1.
[05:58] <DocTomoe> thoreauputic: and pigs can fly ;) Problem is that I have a joint breezy-dapper system and have to install eclipse, which depends on a specific version of a library, which has since been updated
[05:58] <mwe> alekandr: I doubt it will prevent it from booting though
[05:59] <Blissex> monzie: yes, but my links tell you how to fix the kernel fuckups with just a few lines of shell.
[05:59] <DocTomoe> I know from my debian system that any higher version will work ... so how can I install eclipse?
[05:59] <mwe> alekandr: just install an smp kernel. it will keep your old kernel by default
[05:59] <Blissex> DocTomoe: if you do that kind of stuff then you should know better :-)
[05:59] <alekandr> ok :)
[05:59] <McJerry> Rasymas: nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf and configure your mouse there!!!!!
[05:59] <Blissex> alekandr: BTW, have your got some spare cash? Because then there is a little upgrade you could try...
[05:59] <thoreauputic> DocTomoe: well, if you are mixing Dapper and Breezy you get to keep both pieces when it breaks ;-)
[05:59] <gnomefreak> eclipse doesnt work in dapper
[05:59] <Rasymas> how to acces it?
[06:00] <monzie> yes Blissex , and that is great work. you really know the stuff inside out. always nice to chat with a hacker
[06:00] <DocTomoe> gnomefreak: tell me ;)
[06:00] <gnomefreak> its badly broken :(
[06:00] <alekandr> Blissex: yeah... tell me more?
[06:00] <McJerry> who is uing nvidia with twinview?
[06:00] <bettong_BOFH> Seveas, can you pm me i would like to talk to you
[06:00] <DShepherd> does anyone know if fast user switching is built into dapper?
[06:00] <bettong_BOFH> it's very important
[06:00] <Blissex> Rasymas: rerun the X configuration and tell it you have a serial mouse on '/dev/ttyS1'
[06:00] <gnomefreak> i typed up a bug but i havent heard anything back
[06:00] <monzie> gnomefreak, nice nick
[06:01] <Blissex> alekandr: Intel have released a really cheap (relatively) dual core CPU, which is almost half the price of the cheapest AMD X2.
[06:01] <McJerry> Rasymas: i just told you, open a terminal window, and type 'nano -w /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[06:01] <gnomefreak> ty
[06:01] <DocTomoe> hm, its manual installation then ... [$nameOfDeity]  save the cli ;)
[06:01] <crouton> howdy folks
[06:01] <Blissex> alekandr: it is the Pentium D 820, and has massive cache etc.
[06:01] <McJerry> Rasymas: then scroll down to the mouse section and change mouse to /dev/ttyS1 as Blissex said
[06:01] <alekandr> Blissex: sounds nice :]
[06:01] <Blissex> alekandr: that is a _lot_ better than HT
[06:01] <Rasymas> trrminal window is that black window right?
[06:01] <crouton> hopefully quick question - audio CDs aren't being recognized or played at all, any suggestions on how to fix this?
[06:01] <vbgunz> I can no longer open my html pages in Firefox... I have .html pages on my system, when I double click them, Firefox does not open them... Anyone know how to fix this?
[06:01] <alekandr> I currently have a AMD64 FX 3500+
[06:01] <grundo> ok, shoul i install Qt3 ir 4?
[06:01] <monzie> it'll take 17 more mins to download thoreauputic , i am getting all the themes and plugins too!
[06:02] <Blissex> alekandr: that surely does not have HT -- only Intel CPUs have HT
[06:02] <grundo> or*
[06:02] <alekandr> oh man
[06:02] <Hendikins> grundo: Qt3 at the moment
[06:02] <mwe> doesn't he need sudo to edit xorg.conf? Also backing it up first might be a good idea
[06:02] <monzie> Qt3 -> stability, Qt4-> Bleeding edge grundo
[06:02] <grundo> ah!
[06:02] <grundo> :-)
[06:02] <grundo> ok
[06:02] <Hendikins> If you want things to work, Qt3
[06:02] <gnomefreak> DocTomoe, here is the bug https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21846
[06:02] <roune> gnomefreak, i have followed the tutorial site u sent me, but, when im trying to do the "make deb" i get, like errors?
[06:02] <Blissex> alekandr: you could upgrade to an AMD X2, but they are very expensive. Also, your FX3500 is more or less as good as you can get, huge cache etc.
[06:03] <ruschi> Hi there - has anyone a valid list of all possible Xkboptions and their meaning ? the manpage doesn't describe waht is possible
[06:03] <gnomefreak> roune, did you install build-essential?
[06:03] <alekandr> Blissex: cheers :]
[06:03] <Hendikins> I don't see the point in upgrading at the moment. My dual AthlonMP 2600+ CPUs are ticking along merrily.
[06:03] <roune> yes, i follow the site ^^ but, i will look over it once more
[06:03] <midwinter> vbgunz, can you open firefox normally? (from the menu etc)
[06:03] <Blissex> ruschi: XKB is a very mysterious horror. But try looking at 'man setxkbmap' for some hints.
[06:03] <McJerry> going once, going twice, does anyone else here use nvidia with twinview?
[06:03] <monzie> the gnome-devel package rocks, a one shot thing for everything!
[06:03] <crouton> twinview? what's that
[06:03] <vbgunz> midwinter: yes, Firefox is running :)
[06:03] <l_lama> hi all
[06:03] <Blissex> McJerry: try #NVIDIA, and TwinView is a not a good idea except in special cases.
[06:04] <gnomefreak> roune, i havent seen your errors so im assuming they are make errors (thinks you need to install build-essential
[06:04] <Hendikins> Somebody mention Firefox?
[06:04] <abarbaccia> hey guys - can someone help me take an unformatted USB drive and format it with fat32?
[06:04] <l_lama> does ubuntu support MP3 and MPEG4 playback out of the box ?
[06:04] <thoreauputic> !mp3
[06:04] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format.  Do you use KDE?
[06:05] <gnomefreak> roune,  please paste the command and errrors you are getting in pastebin please
[06:05] <McJerry> Blissex: i meant np, sorry bout that, anyway twinview working fine here i just want to figure out how to swap primary displays
[06:05] <midwinter> vbgunz, ah.. hmm
[06:05] <vbgunz> midwinter: one sec
[06:05] <roune> gnomefreak, here is the command i used to get that stuff"^^  apt-get install debhelper build-essential fakeroot linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:05] <mwe> l_lama: the answer would be no, not out of the box since mp3 is not free software
[06:05] <grundo> ubotu tell grundo about #ubuntu
[06:05] <Blissex> McJerry: IIRC that is done either by just swapping the order in which they are described, or by doing that and then using the 'Screen' directive to do so.
[06:06] <__techpickle> is there a dhcpd for ubuntu?
[06:06] <Blissex> McJerry: but if it is a laptop it can involve the BIOS or laptop specific commands.
[06:06] <Madeye> I have problem with k3b, actually it's new laptop install, 'CDRecord has no permission to open the device'.'You may use k3bsetup2 to solve this problem'
[06:06] <Blissex> __techpickle: yes.
[06:06] <McJerry> Rasymas: did that fix your mouse?
[06:06] <l_lama> thoreauputic, and how could I get them ? by apt-getting something from some section of ubuntu (like non-free in debian) ?
[06:06] <grundo> did u change the battery?
[06:06] <roune> gnomefreak, and i got some files named linux-headers blabla, in my /usr/src/
[06:06] <thoreauputic> !info dhcp3-server
[06:06] <Raskall> yacc, thoreauputic: I didn't shout, it was Rasyamas
[06:06] <gnomefreak> roune,  you do know that the command linux-headers-what ever kernel you have
[06:07] <l_lama> mwe, I know, but debian have non-free and contrib for such software...
[06:07] <McJerry> Blissex: is desktop, been using svideo but just hooked up crt also, now crt primary display by default, want svideo as primary
[06:07] <mwe> l_lama: yeah
[06:07] <roune> gnomefreak, well, i dont know anything about linux ^^
[06:07] <thoreauputic> Raskall: tab complete error - it was another "Ra" person -sorry :)
[06:07] <thoreauputic> !tell l_lama about restricted
[06:07] <mwe> l_lama: follow the link ubotu posted and you'll find out how to get mp3 support
[06:07] <gnomefreak> roune, you try running uname -r and take the output of that and put it like this linux-headers-output of uname -r
[06:07] <vbgunz> midwinter: I believe I found the problem... sorry :(
[06:07] <_jahshua-> can anyone tell me commad to bring up my sources list in a text editor
[06:07] <_jahshua-> please
[06:07] <crouton> anybody had issues with audio cds not being recognized at all?
[06:08] <midwinter> vbgunz, that's great if you did :)
[06:08] <monzie> If i may, can like minded persons please ask the Ubuntu developers to put the address bar in Nautilus in the default install?
[06:08] <thoreauputic> _jahshua-:  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:08] <Raskall> thoreauputic: :) I know.. I saw someone had said anything to me and I did a lastlog raskall. Got quite confused since I NEVER SCREAM ON IRC
[06:08] <thoreauputic> monzie: heh
[06:08] <Raskall> ;)
[06:08] <thoreauputic> Raskall: so I see :D
[06:08] <ruschi> @Blissex: yes I use KDE but after a while playing wiht diverse xkb files I don't have these multiple opitons in accessability/keyboardlayout anymore ....
[06:08] <monzie> its really required for "usability"
[06:08] <gnomefreak> roune, to run that you would sudo apt-get install linux-headers-2.6.12-10_i386 or whatever the output of uname -r is
[06:08] <vbgunz> midwinter: yup, I was using the new alltray app and was using hidden from taskbar accompanied with another app "devilspie" which was automatically hiding the app :P
[06:08] <ironmike> not @ all
[06:08] <Blissex> McJerry: then check the 'Screen' directive
[06:09] <vbgunz> midwinter: I got it, thanks for your help!
[06:09] <McJerry> k, thx
[06:09] <thoreauputic> monzie: I agree, but it's a gnome thing I think, not Ubuntu
[06:09] <midwinter> vbgunz, glad you got it working
[06:09] <Blissex> ruschi: bad news... But you don't need special XKB files for that, it is a set of standard options.
[06:09] <monzie> there are patches available, thoreauputic
[06:09] <thoreauputic> monzie: ctrl-L for a location field, or use the gconf editor
[06:09] <monzie> and anyways Ubuntu customizes a lot of their packages via patches, thoreauputic
[06:09] <midwinter> the address bar?
[06:10] <midwinter> yes, ctrl-l or gconf..
[06:10] <thoreauputic> monzie: I *am* aware of that :)
[06:10] <Blissex> ruschi: for example statically I use:     Option		"XkbSymbols"	"en_US(pc105)+gb+group(toggle)+compose(ralt)"
[06:10] <monzie> sorry, of course you would. being an op, you are a
[06:10] <Blissex> ruschi: or dynamically, generated by the control panel: setxkbmap -option -option compose:rwin,lv3:lwin_switch,grp:toggle,altwin:meta_alt
[06:11] <thoreauputic> monzie: being an op doesn't mean I'm an expert - it just means I got asked ;)
[06:11] <Blissex> ruschi: try the latter for example it might give you some fleeting moment of happiness. If you are lucky.
[06:11] <Hendikins> thoreauputic: Don't you love it when users try educating the people in charge? :)
[06:11] <monzie> of course being an  op of this channel you must a developer . or a high member Ubunutu tribal leader..!!
[06:11] <thoreauputic> monzie: in fact I'm just an ordinary luser ;)
[06:11] <DocTomoe> all hail thoreauputic
[06:12] <Hendikins> thoreauputic: I get the same in #firefox. Particularly amusing when they point me to a doc page, and I reply with "I wrote that" :P
[06:12] <jenda> Anyone know how to transcode from DVD iso image?
[06:12] <_jahshua-> how do i use the broken filter to find a broken package in synaptic  ??
[06:12] <monzie> i second that DocTomoe
[06:12] <thoreauputic> Hendikins: ROFL :D
[06:12] <monzie> back to the Nautlius thing...
[06:12] <monzie>  i am sure you must have seen the address bar in KDE
[06:12] <Seveas> thoreauputic, I wouldn't say ordinary :)
[06:12] <Seveas> but yeah, ops are no 'higher persons' than anyone else
[06:13] <thoreauputic> Seveas: heh - well OK - eccentric then ;-)
[06:13] <monzie> it dynamically updates itself.. thoreauputic , unlike Ctrl L in nautlius, which sucks
[06:13] <_jahshua-> anyone?
[06:13] <_jahshua-> :)
[06:13] <jenda> !transcode
[06:13] <ubotu> I don't know, jenda
[06:13] <monzie> so the Ubuntu developers can actually update Nautilus via the patch which does it..
[06:13] <crouton> nobody's had any problems with audio cd's not being recognized?
[06:13] <Hendikins> thoreauputic: Usually happens when I'm asking about something obscure in order to improve the docs.
[06:13] <gnomefreak> i dont get why i get choices to kick ban blah blah blah if you have to be op to use it
[06:13] <monzie> try "sudo apt-get -f"  _jahshua-
[06:13] <grundo> i have forget what include file i should call when i want to use QMessageBox:: function?
[06:14] <gaz> if i download a package which does not need compiling/installing where would one keep it so all users could use it, is /usr/share the play where i should put it?
[06:14] <gaz> play = place*
[06:14] <gnomefreak> i just use my home folder
[06:14] <ruschi> @blissex: I always mad e my configurations with a custom xmodmap in my home ? is this obsolete?
[06:15] <roune> gnomefreak, i  tried sudo apt-get install debhelper build-essential fakeroot linux-headers-2.6.12-9-amd64-generic, but doesnt work Oo
[06:15] <ruschi> @Blissex I give it a try, thanks!
[06:15] <Blissex> ruschi: it is obsolete, and can interfere with proper XKB.
[06:15] <gnomefreak> roune, please paste the output of that command in pastebin
[06:15] <alekandr> How come beep-player wont play mp3's via a smb share?
[06:16] <alekandr> Totem does
[06:16] <roune> gnomefreak, .. how? :D
[06:16] <tkup> How smooth should a Hoary -> Breezy upgrade be?
[06:16] <gnomefreak> roune, also put the output of uname -r
[06:16] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[06:16] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:16] <_jahshua-> how do i use the broken filter to find a broken package in synaptic  ??
[06:16] <Ganjhi> hey, I'm getting a weird error when trying to run America's Army after the installation. Can somebody take a look at the error in my pastebin? Thanks; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6810
[06:16] <roune> gnomereak, 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic
[06:16] <ruschi> @Blissex so whre do you specify what characters appear when pressing certain keys, if xmodmap is obsolete?
[06:17] <ruschi> for some odd reasons I get this aring ( the a with a ring on top if I press compose key+a
[06:17] <Blissex> ruschi: tragically in an XKB config file, which is far more complex.
[06:17] <roune> gnomefreak, how do u mean, the pastebin thing ^^
[06:17] <monzie> click on custom and double click on broken _jahshua-
[06:17] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell roune about pastebin
[06:17] <roune> !pastebin
[06:17] <ubotu> from memory, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:17] <Blissex> ruschi: Compose is not the same as Group Switch which is not the same as ISO Level 3
[06:18] <gnomefreak> roune read the pm ubotu sent you
[06:18] <roune> :D
[06:18] <Blissex> ruschi: even if Group Switch and ISO Level 3 are pretty similar, and usually configured the same.
[06:18] <meo> hi... someone knows something about a airport monitormode patch for 2.6.15 kernel?
[06:18] <matt_> sup
[06:18] <rickard> !cedega
[06:18] <ubotu> cedega is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[06:19] <matt_> hzb zjknv zknb kjfnkjvn k dfjnv  jfkjnckjhvznjzlzbknzlbnkl b
[06:19] <matt_> bhbvfh  fbhbvhvbd  vjfgf
[06:19] <alekandr> Blissex: quick question: whats the best sound sys to use: ESD, ALSA, Artsd, or OSS?
[06:19] <grundo> ?
[06:19] <matt_> al
[06:19] <grundo> prolem matt?
[06:20] <crouton> freaking awesome.
[06:20] <matt_> alsa
[06:20] <Zen> alekandr: I just use alsa
[06:20] <skon> !java
[06:20] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:20] <crouton> go breezy - can't even play audio cd's.
[06:20] <matt_> artsd
[06:20] <Zen> alekandr: it is functionally better than OSS and has good support
[06:20] <gnomefreak> crouton, i dont have a problem with it
[06:20] <alekandr> Zen: for pipeline and source?
[06:21] <crouton> gnomefreak: that's nice, I do.
[06:21] <ruschi> @Blissex I am totally confused...... I have an us layout Sun Type 6 Keyboard and all I want is the effect that when I press Compose + a I get an german umlaut
[06:21] <gnomefreak> crouton, what are you using to play it?
[06:21] <grundo> i have forget what include file i should call when i want to use QMessageBox:: function?
[06:21] <crouton> gnomefreak: it doesn't even show up as an audio cd.
[06:21] <audrey> hi!
[06:21] <thegladiator> i have been facing a small glitch while viewing divx files ever since I startde using ubuntu ---->
[06:21] <Hendikins> skon: Also note that FirefoxPlugins has information about that, so who gets to update the bot accordingly?
[06:21] <crouton> so there's no default player that comes up.
[06:21] <ruschi> @Blissex, I already managed to get this in debian Sarge
[06:21] <skon> Hendikins, thaknks
[06:21] <gnomefreak> crouton, open cd-player from audio/sound and pop cd in
[06:22] <welp> is there like.. a minimal install option on the CD?
[06:22] <crouton> gnomefreak: 'empty disk'
[06:22] <gnomefreak> crouton, is it a copied disk
[06:22] <crouton> gnomefreak: store-bought
[06:22] <audrey> who wants to speak with me?????????????
[06:22] <clast> when's gonna be the next dapper test release coming out?
[06:22] <thoreauputic> welp: you can type "server" and do a minimal install without X etc
[06:22] <gnomefreak> crouton, are you using breezy?
[06:22] <crouton> gnomefreak: Yes
[06:22] <gnomefreak> clast, no date set yet
[06:23] <welp> thoreauputic, what is installed when i do that?
[06:23] <deFrysk> !no
[06:23] <ubotu> Ahh, too bad, I really thought so...
[06:23] <clast> gnomefreak, any time frame?
[06:23] <thegladiator> the divx files can be run as usual and the quality is perfect , except for a small greenish line that kind of blinks at the bottom end of the video
[06:23] <dopf> hi, i cant install ubuntu 5.10 on my system (asrock 939 dual + samsung sata2 hdd) - it says no partitions available
[06:23] <thoreauputic> welp: then you will need to use apt to get what you want - it installs the base system only
[06:23] <gnomefreak> clast, no not yet
[06:23] <thegladiator> does nyone know what is causing this ?
[06:23] <clast> gnomefreak, thanks! :)
[06:23] <matt_> hjcg  dghvgbgfgcjkasjklbgjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjvkbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbgffffffffff      nh
[06:23] <thegladiator> shud I try the official divx player?
[06:23] <matt_> dont know
[06:23] <Hendikins> dopf: Does it detect your disks at all?
[06:24] <alekandr> Anyone got steam to work on ubuntu, I want to play cs:s :(
[06:24] <Hendikins> thoreauputic: Feel like dealing with matt_?
[06:24] <clast> dopf, are you running a raid system?
[06:24] <thoreauputic> Hendikins: I'm tempted...
[06:24] <welp> thoreauputic, that's brilliant! if i did that, and installed fluxbox or something, would it be speedy eneough to run on a 333mhz laptop with 64Mb RAM?
[06:24] <alekandr> !steam
[06:24] <ubotu> well, steam is at http://www.steampowered,com
[06:24] <dopf> Hendikins: no, i installed win xp first
[06:24] <Blissex> ruschi: you cant do that....
[06:24] <crouton> gnomefreak: question is, do I absolutely need the analog audio cable for the system to even recognize it's an audio cd.  i don't think so, but i'm curious.
[06:24] <dopf> clast: no
[06:24] <thegladiator> any here watches divx?
[06:24] <thoreauputic> welp: yes
[06:24] <Blissex> ruschi: Compose requires _two_ keys to follow that.
[06:24] <matt_> steam powered is cool
[06:24] <thegladiator> i cant undestand what  could be causing this , probabl a bug
[06:24] <welp> thoreauputic, thanks :D
[06:24] <thoreauputic> welp: you'll need x-window-system-core as well, and an xterm
[06:25] <gnomefreak> crouton, sound juicer doesnt open?
[06:25] <Hendikins> thoreauputic: You're more patient than I get sometimes
[06:25] <crouton> gnomefreak: no.
[06:25] <Blissex> ruschi: to get "a" with umlaut with Compose you press Compose+:+a
[06:25] <crouton> gnomefreak: I get a 'CD-ROM Disc' on the desktop, not Audio CD.
[06:25] <roune> gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6811
[06:25] <Blissex> ruschi: or else you press GroupSwitc+a
[06:25] <ruschi> @Blissex Thanks alot
[06:25] <thoreauputic> matt_: any repetition of your spamming and you will have a short life
[06:25] <welp> thoreauputic, i know, i installed debian, but i prefer ubuntu
[06:25] <thegladiator> is divx player present in any repos ?
[06:25] <thoreauputic> welp: OK :)
[06:26] <skon> Anyone know how you can paste something into aterm?
[06:26] <welp> thoreauputic, plus i mainly use gentoo :P
[06:26] <matt_> what???
[06:26] <thoreauputic> skon: middle click?
[06:26] <JarG0n> I'm using the 64bit version of Ubuntu using a LiveCD to see if Ubuntu is compatable with my system, and it appears to freeze at the stage where it shows a solid (nonblinking) cursor at the top left hand side of the screen.  Any ideas on what this means?
[06:26] <gnomefreak> roune, also paste you full /etc/apt/sources.list file in pastebin
[06:26] <skon> thoreauputic, on a laptop...
[06:26] <thegladiator> does anyone care to help ?
[06:26] <crouton> gnomefreak: sound works fine, xmms can play mp3s.  i just can't get audio cds to be recognized at all.
[06:26] <welp> thoreauputic, just i didn't like the sound of compiling everythingon the laptop
[06:26] <matt_><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[06:26] <mindmedic> thegladiator: i havent seen it anywhere, but there are other players supporting divx
[06:26] <mwe> matt_: stop being annoying dammit
[06:27] <ruschi> @Blissex  Thanks, I zap my Xserver and try again - see you soon
[06:27] <gnomefreak> crouton, have you tried other cds?
[06:27] <thoreauputic> !divx
[06:27] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:27] <muhammad> Why isn't Firefox 1.5 available in the repos?
[06:27] <crouton> gnomefreak: Yes, several.
[06:27] <roune> gnomefreak, okay,  ^
[06:27] <matt_> pease out
[06:27] <_xet> !easysource
[06:27] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:27] <thegladiator> mindmedic, the problem is a small green demaracting line in the divx movies
[06:27] <gnomefreak> muhammad, not stable enough
[06:27] <dopf> Hendikins: any ideas?
[06:27] <Hendikins> muhammad: The Gecko 1.7 -> Gecko 1.8 upgrade breaks stuff.
[06:27] <thoreauputic> muhammad: because it would break things, even as a backport
[06:27] <ki4ikl> this is bull crap, my mom wont let meuse MY 100 dollar gift card to buy a new cam and router cause she says i don't know enough to HANDLE ubuntu and she has never used it
[06:27] <thegladiator> it blinks all the time and it is very thin small line
[06:27] <thoreauputic> Hendikins: thank you :)
[06:27] <Hendikins> dopf: I've only tried Ubuntu under vmware.
[06:28] <mindmedic> thegladiator: have you tried different players?
[06:28] <muhammad> k
[06:28] <mindmedic> thegladiator: or different files?
[06:28] <thegladiator> yes i have tried diff players and diff files and the same file works well in XP
[06:28] <Hendikins> muhammad: Unfortunately this is somewhat normal with Gecko upgrades. You can install 1.5 alongside the official 1.0.7 though.
[06:29] <thoreauputic> !firefox1.5
[06:29] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:29] <mwe> why is it impossible to make a ff1.5 package that does what I do manually when I install it?
[06:29] <gnomefreak> roune let me know when its pasted
[06:29] <Hendikins> 1.5 does have some (mostly extension-related) stability issues though.
[06:29] <mindmedic> mhh, strange, have you tried vlc already?
[06:29] <gnomefreak> some?
[06:29] <gnomefreak> lol
[06:29] <roune> gnomefreak, done :D http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6812
[06:29] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: Yes, some. Do you do Firefox support?
[06:29] <crouton> sigh, time to reinstall.
[06:29] <JarG0n> Can anyone help with my question?
[06:29] <JarG0n> :/
[06:29] <kenderthief> hello, I am having a problem changing the color depth in X
[06:30] <thegladiator> with XINE I can , but XINE is terribly slow , I dont know how to make it fast
[06:30] <gnomefreak> Hendikins, no but i remember more than some :(
[06:30] <gnomefreak> roune thats you full list?
[06:30] <tomeff___> ahojky
[06:30] <kenderthief> I can only get 800x600 with 24bit, which is ugly, but I can't find where to change to 16bit color
[06:30] <muhammad> Hendikins: I tried that, but it tells me that another version of FF is already running, and I need to close it, I'm sure 1.0.7 is closed though.
[06:30] <mindmedic> thegladiator: be sure to use the xv extension to use hardware scaling and color conversion
[06:30] <roune> gnomefreak, yes... :D i did some guide i got from here, and thats the result :D
[06:31] <roune> gnomefreak, becouse i wanted to install xmms
[06:31] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: I'm the SOP in #firefox on moznet, and I'm a general moderator on MozillaZine's forums (who has used the forums since day 1). I say "some" after reading a LOT about user experiences with 1.5.
[06:31] <gnomefreak> roune yes that is easysource
[06:31] <mindmedic> you can set the video output method in the preferences or at the command line
[06:31] <gnomefreak> ahhh ok Hendikins
[06:31] <roune> gnomefreak, is there anything wrong with the soucelist?
[06:31] <roune> gnomefreak, i mean, wont it work?
[06:31] <gnomefreak> roune,  it doesnt look like it
[06:31] <Hendikins> This isn't to say it is bug-free, but generally speaking the problems aren't critical/blocker stuff.
[06:31] <kenderthief> mindmedic: where under preferences?
[06:31] <thegladiator> perfereneces in XINE ?
[06:31] <Hendikins> Adblock is our #1 problem with 1.5
[06:31] <mindmedic> thegladiator: but it depends on your graphics card and x-server preferences if you can use hardware accelerated video rendering
[06:32] <skon> Nobody knows how to paste into aterm?/
[06:32] <kenderthief> oh
[06:32] <mwe> skon: press the middle button
[06:32] <thegladiator> graphisc card is ordinary
[06:32] <roune> gnomefreak, do u want the errors from the make deb thing 2?
[06:32] <mindmedic> kenderthief: in the video tab in the graphical configuration dialogue
[06:32] <thegladiator> but windows XP deals with it well
[06:32] <mwe> skon: or both if you only got 2
[06:32] <gnomefreak> roune yes please
[06:32] <gnomefreak> ill brb
[06:32] <skon> mwe:, k thanks....ctrl alt v wasn't working like in gnome term
[06:33] <JarG0n> I'm using the 64bit version of Ubuntu using a LiveCD to see if Ubuntu is compatable with my system, and it appears to freeze at the stage where it shows a solid (nonblinking) cursor at the top left hand side of the screen.  Any ideas on what this means?
[06:33] <roune> gnomefreak, is it posible to make like make deb >> FILE, and type the errors to a file?
[06:34] <gnomefreak> not sure roune
[06:35] <CanYouHelpMePlz> JarG0n: sounds like a video issue
[06:35] <meshe> make deb 2> filename should redirect errors to a file
[06:35] <gnomefreak> Hendikins, use seveas repos you should beable to get it from them :)
[06:36] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: I have no interest in Flash myself. I'm just trying to ensure that the docs I write are accurate.
[06:36] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhhhhh
[06:36] <roune> meshe, thanks :D
[06:36] <meshe> np
[06:36] <gnomefreak> gonna try 1.5 again
[06:36] <|Banana|> Hey guys, SATA 2 issues. If I try and touch the disk I get various output like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6814 Board is GA-K8NF9 Ultra (nForce4). I'm not sure it is a kernel issue, I'm working from 2.6.15 atm whilst I debug my nvidia graphics problem :)
[06:37] <Hendikins> ...and is it just me, or has the macromedia plugin disappeared completely from multiverse?
[06:37] <roune> gnomefreak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6815
[06:39] <Hendikins> Hrm
[06:39] <gnomefreak> roune, if you do apt-get update does it tell you each repo and what arch they are made for?
[06:40] <thoreauputic> Hendikins: flashplugin-nonfree - Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer  <-- apt-cahe search flash | grep macromedia
[06:40] <thoreauputic> s/cahe/cache
[06:41] <JarG0n> CanYouHelpMePlz> I would agree there.  I'm going to see if I can disable something in the bios to see if it fixes it.
[06:41] <iveqy> hello, Ive got problems with my installation. My computer is an ca 400 Mhz compaq prosignia desktop. The installation of ubuntu 5.04 went fine, but after first reboot the computer stays after the command> boot done by GRUB
[06:41] <Hendikins> thoreauputic: I simply ticked all the boxes in synaptic as per the docs on the wiki. I've worked out what the issue is.
[06:41] <thoreauputic> Hendikins: OK :)
[06:41] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do i get rid of open office?
[06:42] <Hendikins> thoreauputic: I do notice no Flash Player 7.0r61 though.
[06:42] <gnomefreak> roune, it looks like either your repos are for 386 or the package doesnt exsits in 64
[06:43] <Dreamglider> CanYouHelpMePlz, mark it for remowal in Synaptic Package manager
[06:43] <welp> how do i update my computer completly?
[06:43] <gnomefreak> CanYouHelpMePlz, it will remove alot of other things too
[06:43] <roune> gnomefreak, i got an error like this: "failed to fetch http://ADRESSBLABLA/binary-amd64/packages.gz   sub- process gzip rutunred an error code(1)
[06:43] <gnomefreak> welp, like sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[06:43] <Dreamglider> welp, in terminal type: sudo apt-get update
[06:44] <welp> gnomefreak, Dreamglider, which one?
[06:44] <thoreauputic> CanYouHelpMePlz: sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org2  ?
[06:44] <gnomefreak> dist-upgrade
[06:44] <welp> gnomefreak, ok, thanks
[06:44] <HelpmePlz> whats the package name for open office?
[06:44] <welp> :D
[06:44] <gnomefreak> update will only update sourceslist
[06:45] <Dreamglider> dist-upgradi will get him the latest ubuntu right ?
[06:45] <gnomefreak> openoffice.org ...
[06:45] <thoreauputic> ah that;'s only the metapackage, sorry
[06:45] <gnomefreak> no
[06:45] <HelpmePlz> gnomefreak: no, i mean so i can remove it like threw terminal
[06:45] <gnomefreak> unless he changed his sources.list to read a different version
[06:45] <thoreauputic> openoffice.org2 is a metapackage
[06:45] <gnomefreak> HelpmePlz, sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org
[06:45] <Dreamglider> ok so a dist-upgradi will get him 5.10 not 6.04
[06:46] <gnomefreak> 2
[06:46] <alekandr> any quick easy way to install FIREFOX 1.5?
[06:46] <thoreauputic> HelpmePlz: you need to look at the dependencies for that and remove them
[06:46] <gnomefreak> Dreamglider, if he has breezy repos it will upgrade and stay as breezy
[06:46] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: removing the metapackage won't remove the deps
[06:46] <Hendikins> alekandr: There is a doc on the wiki about installing Firefox 1.5. I suggest reading it.
[06:46] <thoreauputic> !firefox1.5
[06:46] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:46] <gnomefreak> i know
[06:46] <gnomefreak> --purge will :)
[06:46] <noplease> hi@all
[06:47] <jono> hi all
[06:47] <lwolf> can someone help me on configuring a serial mouse on breezy ? i think that my probleme come from my serial port : cat /dev/ttyS0 give me nothing when i move the mouse. Can someone give me a hand ?
[06:47] <Dreamglider> gnomefreak, ok
[06:47] <jono> what is the legality of the w32codecs from marillat ?
[06:47] <thoreauputic> jono: dodgy
[06:47] <gnomefreak> Dreamglider, dist-upgrade will get you the latest kernel for your version
[06:47] <lwolf> jono, it's ok if you have a windows license i believe
[06:47] <Hendikins> alekandr: Additional note: If you're using the adblock extension, remove it before you install 1.5
[06:47] <marc_> Hello
[06:47] <mebaran151> I am on AMD64 and I would like to use eclipse
[06:48] <mebaran151> but each time it fails with a class path error
[06:48] <alekandr> Hendikins: I have, i need 1.5 for greasemonkey
[06:48] <Hendikins> alekandr: Right. Just checking.
[06:48] <const7> hello #ubuntu. I've a problem with wifi-radar and python on a breezy fully "stable" (no extra packages).  when I call :  sudo wifi-radar , I have this error : File "/usr/sbin/wifi-radar", line 1273, in ?
[06:48] <const7>     auto_profile_order = auto_profile_order.split( ',' )
[06:48] <const7> AttributeError: 'list' object has no attribute 'split' . what can I do? I've reinstalled wifi-radar It doesn't work. should I try to reinstall all python packages?
[06:49] <JarG0n> what does this STOP error msg mean? ALERT! /dev/hdc1 does not exist.  Dropping to a shell!
[06:49] <alekandr> Hendikins: thanks pal
[06:50] <kenderthief> hmm I still can't find any video configuration except resolution and refresh rate
[06:50] <Bevin> hi
[06:50] <Hendikins> alekandr: No worries. You'd be amazed how many people don't, and then go looking for support, get told to remove adblock, do it, and have their problems disappear :)
[06:50] <JarG0n> I installed Ubuntu on an IDE hard drive, now it's telling me the hard drive does not exist?
[06:50] <Trashcan> lol
[06:51] <roune> gnomefreak, thanks alot for your help.. i will "google" some now and so, hope i get lucky :D
[06:51] <thoreauputic> JarG0n: looks like it has a problem with the first parition on /dev/hdc
[06:51] <thoreauputic> *partition
[06:51] <TaHuRuS> hi, does anyone know how to log into ubuntu as root?
[06:51] <mebaran151> TaHuRuS, you use sudo
[06:52] <JarG0n> thanks!
[06:52] <thoreauputic> TaHuRuS: don't
[06:52] <mebaran151> or you can go sudo passwd
[06:52] <mebaran151> and reenable root
[06:52] <thoreauputic> !root
[06:52] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:52] <mebaran151> by giving it a password
[06:53] <veriz> can anyone tell me how i can copy a directory from one place to other?
[06:53] <BockBilbo> hello there
[06:53] <Perversus> hola hay alguien en el canal?
[06:53] <thoreauputic> veriz: cp -R /dit/one /dir/two
[06:53] <veriz> thoreauputic: thnx
[06:54] <TaHuRuS> thks guys, i'll try
[06:54] <Huhn_der_zwote> funny. I came here to ask about an error that I got everytime I tried to install ubuntu. Now that I wanted to reproduce it and thus quote the error message to you... well it worked
[06:54] <Huhn_der_zwote> :D
[06:54] <BockBilbo> does anyone have problems with the firmware of the ipw2200 in ubuntu? sometimes i get to many firmware errors, and the net card stops working... then gnome gets frozen and i have to shut down the computer using the power bottom...
[06:54] <Huhn_der_zwote> anyways will ubuntu run sufficiently fast on an 500 mhz 64 mb ram pc?
[06:54] <Hendikins> 64MB RAM? That's very... low.
[06:54] <jenda> Anyone know how to transcode from DVD iso image?
[06:54] <Katie^> goh
[06:54] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: no, not with a default install
[06:55] <Hendikins> 500MHz shouldn't be a problem, but 64MB RAM is
[06:55] <Dreamglider> Huhn_der_zwote, it will run, but not fast
[06:55] <Huhn_der_zwote> damn
[06:55] <thoreauputic> I would try to add some ram
[06:55] <Huhn_der_zwote> laptop
[06:55] <Huhn_der_zwote> I would if it wasn't a lappie
[06:55] <Huhn_der_zwote> well I'll install and then see into it
[06:55] <psusi> it will run just fine if you don't install the gui ;0
[06:55] <monzie> sylpheed is nice thanks thoreauputic
[06:55] <Dreamglider> Huhn_der_zwote, it will run, but not fast. i would not use gnome or kde (i have tried it)
[06:55] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: else you can do a "server" install and then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop or similar
[06:56] <psusi> jenda, dvd's don't use iso
[06:56] <psusi> jenda, they use UDF
[06:56] <thoreauputic> monzie: :) no worries - enjoy !
[06:56] <Huhn_der_zwote> the thing is I had mandrake before, that was my only linux experience. I totally sucked at installing anything myself so I eventually deleted it
[06:56] <lnostdal> how do i reinstall a package and make it overwrite all the old stuff .. config-files and whatever ..  i've got some annoying package-problems .....
[06:56] <Huhn_der_zwote> this was what got me going about ubuntu: it looked very easy and nice
[06:56] <jenda> psusi: I dd'd a dvd to iso. It works with xine, but I'd like to make it 700 MB instead of 7 Gb...
[06:56] <Huhn_der_zwote> so I think I'd have a hard time installing xubuntu?
[06:57] <gnomefreak> Huhn_der_zwote, it is very easy and nice :)
[06:57] <monzie> apt-get reinstall package lnostdal
[06:57] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: it is - I suggest you  try what I said above
[06:57] <benplaut> how do i use ssh to move files?
[06:57] <jenda> psusi: It's an .iso image file...
[06:57] <gnomefreak> Huhn_der_zwote, in terminal type sudo apt-get install xubuntu
[06:57] <psusi> jenda, you're using incorrect terminology... you copied it to an image file... iso is short for the iso9660 filesystem which is used to store data files on cdroms... dvds use the udf filesystem
[06:57] <Huhn_der_zwote> what terminal?
[06:57] <gorski> how to enable windows key in ubuntu
[06:57] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: after the "server" install, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop (you will need the universe repo)
[06:57] <psusi> so calling it a .iso is incorrectly labeling it
[06:58] <Huhn_der_zwote> ok...
[06:58] <lnostdal> monzie, "invalid operation reinstall"
[06:58] <thoreauputic> !info xubuntu-desktop
[06:58] <Huhn_der_zwote> so where do I get this stuff?
[06:58] <ubotu> xubuntu-desktop: (Xubuntu desktop system), section universe/misc, is optional. Version: 1.4 (breezy), Packaged size: 5 kB, Installed size: 32 kB
[06:58] <Huhn_der_zwote> !info xubuntu-desktop
[06:58] <gnomefreak> after server install as in its not installed yet?
[06:58] <jenda> psusi: thanks for enlightening me. And do you know how to rip it?
[06:59] <monzie> then do the reinstallation from synaptic lnostdal
[06:59] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: after the server install, do sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and uncomment the universe lines, then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[06:59] <psusi> hrm... under windows I'd use flask mpeg... or virtual dub... let me see if vdub in in synaptic
[06:59] <gorski> can somebody tell me a good and simple mp3 player for ubuntu?
[06:59] <Huhn_der_zwote> thanks for your help, but what is sudo-apt-get
[06:59] <Huhn_der_zwote> and where can I get the xubuntu desktop
[06:59] <monzie> beep media player gorski
[06:59] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell gorski about mp3
[06:59] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote:  that's how you get it :)
[07:00] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: just type those commands
[07:00] <jenda> psusi: It is an .iso - that's not so hard to prove.
[07:00] <psusi> darn... it isn't... hrm... that one was open source, I thought they had it on linux
[07:00] <thoreauputic> !tell Huhn_der_zwote about docs
[07:00] <s_spiff> just installed KDE successfully!
[07:00] <gnomefreak> Huhn_der_zwote, just type what thoreauputic gave you to type and poof it iwll be there
[07:00] <psusi> jenda, which filesystem to you specify when you mount it?  mount -t iso9660 or mount -t udf?
[07:01] <gorski> ok, thank you.
[07:01] <psusi> jenda, you _can_ burn an iso filesystem on a dvd, but all comercial dvds use udf
[07:01] <jenda> psusi: I never mounted it. But the file is /path/name.iso
[07:01] <Huhn_der_zwote> thanks I'll give it a look
[07:01] <lnostdal> http://paste.lisp.org/display/15510 , monzie
[07:01] <jenda> psusi: And xine has no trouble playing it.
[07:01] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: also read  http://help.ubuntu.com
[07:01] <psusi> jenda, yea.. you named it wrong.. it should not be named .iso because it does not contain an iso9660 filesystem
[07:01] <jdier> anyone have any clues for setting up a share of a ubuntu dir so it is visible from my windows clients?
[07:01] <psusi> jenda, xine understands udf
[07:01] <mebaran151> hey
[07:02] <mebaran151> could anyone help me set up eclispe on AMD64?
[07:02] <JarG0n> how do I pick the SMP kernel after installing Ubuntu?
[07:02] <thoreauputic> jdier: windows is blind to any non-windows filesystem (unless you install 3rd party tricks)
[07:03] <monzie> everything seems fine lnostdal
[07:03] <JDahl> mebaran151, I don't think the version that comes with Ubuntu works - I had to download it from eclipse.org
[07:03] <jenda> JarG0n: Synaptic search for "linux" and make your pick...
[07:03] <lnostdal> monzie, erm .. no, nothing happens
[07:03] <thoreauputic> jdier: or unless you use samba for filesharing on anetwork of course
[07:03] <mebaran151> JDahl, can I checkinstall it?
[07:03] <monzie> what is the exact problem that you are facing lnostdal
[07:03] <jdier> Any suggestions of third party tricks?  I have all of my music and photos on my linux machine and would like my wife to be able to browse and copy
[07:03] <lnostdal> monzie, ls /var/log/postgresql is empty (no files)
[07:03] <mebaran151> and JDahl, will it work with the gcj JavaVM
[07:04] <mebaran151> as I am running AMD64 and it is a pain to make JDK work
[07:04] <thoreauputic> jdier: ah -you need to install samba then
[07:04] <thoreauputic> !samba
[07:04] <ubotu> somebody said samba was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[07:04] <monzie> i dont know much about postgresql
[07:04] <JarG0n> jenda> can you show me how to do this?
[07:04] <lnostdal> stupid freakin rc-script tells me nada  *arf*
[07:05] <jenda> JarG0n: open synaptic through system>admin>synaptic
[07:05] <s_spiff> hey i can mount a certain partion by the command : sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt
[07:05] <monzie> have you done a "/etc/init.d/postgresql start" after installation lnostdal ?
[07:05] <s_spiff> how do i see to it that It's mounted everytime i boot up?
[07:05] <lnostdal> of course .. see the paste, monzie
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> jdier,  also you may need to set a samba password for the user ont he linunx box. whos home dir you wish windows tobe able to access
[07:05] <thoreauputic> jdier: got ubotu's URL ?
[07:05] <gnomefreak> Hendikins, you still here?
[07:05] <jdier> I have samba running and use smb:/computer to get to my windows machines.  I just cannot go the other way.
[07:05] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: I shouldn't be, but yeah
[07:05] <JDahl> mebaran151, I just downloaded to the tar file and installed in ~/bin. I think it works with gcj - at least I don't recall any problems with Ubuntu's java (blackdown?). I didn't use it much, however; I thought xemacs was easier to use
[07:05] <Dr_Willis> jdier,  google for the 'using samba' online book. its got loads of details and examples for different tasks as well.
[07:05] <lnostdal> it isn't running .. and the rc-script does not report an error .. and nothing in the log-files in /var/log  (the files aren't even there)
[07:06] <thoreauputic> jdier: do you have the samba server installed?
[07:06] <jdier> thoreauputic - got them.  Give me some time to review those links
[07:06] <monzie> sorry lnostdal , i dont know .
[07:06] <gnomefreak> lol do you have issue opening 1.5 in xchat?
[07:06] <gorski> can someone give me a good reference for installing winfast tv 2000xp card, please?!
[07:06] <jdier> Yes samba is intalled
[07:06] <lnostdal> dang
[07:06] <s_spiff>  someone help!
[07:06] <thoreauputic> jdier: sure :)
[07:06] <gnomefreak> !help
[07:06] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: Nope. I don't use Ubuntu though (aside from a testing install in VMware)
[07:06] <gnomefreak> oh ok ty Hendikins
[07:06] <puppeteer> hello
[07:07] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: I simply plan on taking a chainsaw to some docs
[07:07] <freak_> i have a question that is probably easy for any of your to answer
[07:07] <jdier> thanks for the tips.  I will try to work it out.
[07:07] <gorski> can someone help me for installing winfast tv 2000xp card, please?!
[07:07] <puppeteer> bye bye !
[07:07] <gnomefreak> sounds fun :(
[07:07] <alekandr> does breezy only come with firefox?
[07:07] <freak_> i was wondering how to get APT to install a package from my home directory
[07:07] <freak_> im trying to install fluxbox
[07:07] <monzie> dpkg -i packagename freak_
[07:07] <gnomefreak> alekandr, you can get a number of browsers but no it also comes with w3m
[07:08] <freak_> thank you!
[07:08] <alekandr> ok good, cause i just borked firefox :]
[07:08] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install fluxbox should work
[07:08] <gorski> can someone give me a good reference for installing winfast tv 2000xp card, please?!
[07:08] <thoreauputic> freak_: you need sudo in front of that command btw
[07:08] <Hendikins> alekandr: How'd you break it?
[07:09] <alekandr> Hendikins: firefox 1.5 update messed everything up, then i had to remove the packages from broken :(
[07:09] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: After the few thousand times, you don't worry about it.\
[07:09] <klhughes> whats up everybody
[07:09] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:09] <Hendikins> alekandr: So you did what?
[07:09] <gnomefreak> alekandr, how did you update it? from the wiki?
[07:10] <alekandr> gnomefreak: yeah
[07:10] <gnomefreak> did you set it as default?
[07:10] <alekandr> ok reinstalled
[07:10] <alekandr> <3 synaptic
[07:10] <klhughes> Does anyone know how to keep devices from "auto-opening" when they get mounted?
[07:10] <alekandr> i need 1.5 for greasemonkey support
[07:10] <Hendikins> Hrm. Any wonder I'm going to be chainsawing the Firefox docs in the wiki?
[07:10] <alekandr> i have 1.0.7
[07:10] <alekandr> !firefox
[07:11] <gnomefreak> alekandr, you have 1.0.7 or 1.5 or both?
[07:11] <alekandr> !firefox1.5
[07:11] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:11] <Zoohouse> Can I compile exe for windows using the defult gcc installation?
[07:11] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[07:11] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:11] <alekandr> gnomefreak: 1.0.7, but i need 1.5
[07:11] <monzie> no Zoohouse
[07:11] <Hendikins> I'm in the process of attacking that page right now
[07:11] <Zoohouse> monzie, what do i need?
[07:11] <gnomefreak> Hendikins, the wiki page?
[07:11] <monzie> i dont think you can do it Zoohouse
[07:12] <mebaran151> Ubuntu uses a whack gcj version
[07:12] <gnomefreak> mebaran151, than change it
[07:12] <monzie> but you can get gcc for windows using Cygwin
[07:12] <mebaran151> gnomefreak, that's harder than it sounds
[07:12] <mebaran151> I've tried
[07:12] <gnomefreak> no its not
[07:12] <mebaran151> but it seems they conflict with each other
[07:12] <mebaran151> at least on AMD64 it rendered openoffice inoperable
[07:12] <mebaran151> and all the Java applications just simply crashed
[07:13] <thoreauputic> mebaran151: you can innstall sun j2re , then run sudo update-alternatives --config java
[07:13] <monzie> search google for cygwin please, Zoohouse , i dont think this topic concerns Ubuntu
[07:14] <thoreauputic> hmm amd64 I don't know about with java though
[07:14] <Zoohouse> ok thx
[07:14] <sapo> hi all, anyone knows where gnome store the cdrom devices info? my fstab is corret, but gnome shows 4 cdroms drive.. and i just have 2, its duplicating :(
[07:14] <boxy> For HyperThreading do i just install a smp kernel?
[07:15] <gnomefreak> smp is for duel proccesers
[07:15] <boxy> well how do i get HyperThreading to work?
[07:15] <freak_> what's the package "menu"? fluxbox needs it
[07:16] <JarG0n> Is the 64 bit version of Ubuntu relatively stable, or do people have many issues with it?
[07:16] <rickard> !nvidia
[07:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:16] <Hendikins> gnomefreak: since HT is emulated SMP, you use an SMP kernel for it too. Just FYI.
[07:16] <thoreauputic> freak_: sudo apt-get install menu
[07:16] <gnomefreak> boxy, i dont know if hyperthreading is supported in ubuntu
[07:16] <czr> boxy, smp kernel with HT enabled
[07:16] <freak_> alright, thanks
[07:16] <mebaran151> JarG0n, only java seems a little touchy on 64 bits
[07:16] <gnomefreak> oh ok ty Hendikins
[07:16] <czr> ht is supported ok, just install the smp kernel
[07:16] <czr> you need also to check that HT is enabled in your bios
[07:17] <boxy> yeah
[07:17] <boxy> so no extra kernel configing?
[07:17] <Huhn_der_zwote> can you give me some advice which kernel to install? yes documention and wiki, but the starter guide doesn't work for me
[07:17] <Hendikins> No extra configging
[07:17] <HelpmePlz> anyone else having problems running any of the doom apps?
[07:17] <czr> boxy, should be ok out of the box
[07:17] <JarG0n> mebaran> thx
[07:17] <boxy> czr thanks
[07:17] <Hendikins> To the OS, HT is just the same as SMP, so nothing special is involved.
[07:17] <boxy> yeah thats what i though
[07:17] <Hendikins> (Of course, SMP whips HT, but that's another matter...)
[07:17] <boxy> but gnome told me diff
[07:17] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: just accept the default - you can change it later if you wish quite easily
[07:17] <boxy> of course Hendikins ;)
[07:17] <gnomefreak> boxy i was mistaken
[07:18] <boxy> its alright
[07:18] <czr> kernel config has separate ht option so that the scheduler will know when to allocate processes to another logical cpu
[07:18] <boxy> :)
[07:18] <Hendikins> boxy: gnomefreak was incorrect, and has been duly corrected :)
[07:18] <freak_> "menu" is not available
[07:18] <boxy> hah
[07:18] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: the kernel type won't make a huge difference
[07:19] <Huhn_der_zwote> default would be?
[07:19] <Hendikins> Huhn_der_zwote: If you don't know what you're doing, there is no need to change the default.
[07:19] <gnomefreak> Hendikins, i remember reading something about ht not being supported maybe they changed it
[07:19] <gabi> heloo
[07:19] <Huhn_der_zwote> well I dont want to change it, but they ask during install anyways
[07:19] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: i386 - but that's what the installer gives you - and it doesn't ask
[07:19] <gabi> is anyone alive ?:)
[07:19] <thoreauputic> :)
[07:19] <boxy> So czr do i need to compile the kernel source by hand or will apt-get install linux-686-smp handle the HT part?
[07:19] <Huhn_der_zwote> it did
[07:19] <Hendikins> Huhn_der_zwote: Then just leave it well enough alone.
[07:19] <JarG0n> gabi> I hope so!
[07:19] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: are you using the server ISO ?
[07:20] <gabi> ok i have a little problem with my breezy system
[07:20] <gabi> :)
[07:20] <Hendikins> The default will work in the overwhelming majority of cases.
[07:20] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: you didn't need to...
[07:20] <boxy> oh okay
[07:20] <czr> boxy, 686-smp will work just nice for you
[07:20] <Hendikins> gabi: Well, we can't help you fix it unless you tell us what it is.
[07:20] <Huhn_der_zwote> yeah I am
[07:20] <boxy> speaking of which do you guys have any idea why Gnome takes like 8 minutes to load?
[07:20] <gabi> how cand o login as a root? what is the command ? su ?
[07:20] <JarG0n> does the 686 correspond to 64 bit?
[07:20] <gnomefreak> sudo
[07:20] <czr> boxy, you have working dns?
[07:20] <Huhn_der_zwote> it might be due to the installation part of the kernel failing before, so I had to redo it
[07:20] <Hendikins> 686 is 32bit Pentium II or higher
[07:20] <JarG0n> 386 - 32bit?
[07:20] <welp> thoreauputic, what did i need for X again?
[07:20] <boxy> czr like as in my internet works?
[07:20] <monzie> logging in as root is not recommended
[07:20] <gnomefreak> gabi, sudo <command>
[07:20] <czr> JarG0n, no. 686 corresponds to pentium II optimized kernel
[07:21] <boxy> i know DHCP works
[07:21] <czr> boxy, yes
[07:21] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: oh - you didn't need that - just typing "server" witht the ordinary installer is enough
[07:21] <gabi> sudo and what ?
[07:21] <JarG0n> oh ok
[07:21] <gnomefreak> or gabi sudo -i
[07:21] <boxy> Yeah my internet works im on it right now
[07:21] <gabi> let's try
[07:21] <gabi> :)
[07:21] <thoreauputic> welp: x-window-system-core
[07:21] <Hendikins> czr: For the sake of my curiousity, is there an athlon-smp kernel floating around?
[07:21] <gnomefreak> gabi, what are you trying to do?
[07:21] <welp> thoreauputic, thankee
[07:21] <gabi> to edit my motd.conf file
[07:21] <gabi> :)
[07:21] <thoreauputic> welp: install a terminal too :)
[07:21] <Huhn_der_zwote> thoreauputic: right now I'm installing the normal ubuntu. although highly probable that it will be slow as hell, I want to find out first if it really doesn't work
[07:21] <welp> :D
[07:21] <welp> ok
[07:21] <czr> Hendikins, don't think so. you won't notice any difference wrt speed anyhow, 686 should be ok
[07:22] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: hmm - 64MB is below the recommended minimum
[07:22] <czr> Hendikins, you could roll out your own of course
[07:22] <welp> how do i get aterm?
[07:22] <gnomefreak> gabi, sudo gedit <path>
[07:22] <Hendikins> czr: I won't be using Ubuntu outside of vmware. I'm not changing distro.
[07:22] <gabi> gnomefreak, thanks
[07:22] <gnomefreak> yw
[07:22] <gabi> i prefer to use sudo -i
[07:22] <thoreauputic> welp: enable universe, sudo apt-get install aterm
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> welp,  you mean 'aterm' or.. ' a term' :P
[07:22] <gabi> :)
[07:22] <gnomefreak> xterm :)
[07:23] <Hendikins> and Workstation 5.5's dual CPU support makes my dual CPU machine keel over
[07:23] <welp> oh, enable universe...
[07:23] <czr> Hendikins, under vmware doesn't matter which kernel you use, vmware slows down them all quite nicely ;-)
[07:23] <welp> gnomefreak, atermis faster
[07:23] <welp> *atermis
[07:23] <Huhn_der_zwote> ah well, I'll try and find out.
[07:23] <gabi> but when i log in from another pc to my ssh server how to access the root ?
[07:23] <welp> *aterm is
[07:23] <gnomefreak> welp, i know
[07:23] <Huhn_der_zwote> :)
[07:23] <thoreauputic> welp: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list ;-)
[07:23] <czr> gabi, ssh as normal user, then use sudo to gain temporary root for commands
[07:23] <czr> gabi, man sudo
[07:23] <gnomefreak> nano :(
[07:23] <thoreauputic> welp: but you knew that, right ?
[07:23] <gabi> ok 10x guys
[07:23] <HelpmePlz> anyone know why prboom only plays in a small window?
[07:24] <thoreauputic> well, $EDITOR
[07:24] <HelpmePlz> !doom
[07:24] <ubotu> hmm... doom is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Doom3
[07:24] <gabi> it's the first time i use ubuntu :)
[07:24] <boxy> is the config file for grub /boot/menu.1st?
[07:24] <bina> is there a command that I can use to burn an ISO to CD from the terminal?
[07:24] <Hendikins> czr: VMware's virtual SMP is horrid. My box doesn't even flinch running 2 virtual machines at once, but using a VM with 2 virtual CPUs kills it stone dead.
[07:24] <Dreamglider> Huhn_der_zwote,  i had ubuntu installed on a 500MHz, 46MB ram and 4MB grapiccard, it did indeed work
[07:24] <thoreauputic> !start an editor war
[07:24] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, thoreauputic
[07:24] <tr011> gabi, contraz.....
[07:24] <JDahl> bina, cdrecord
[07:24] <czr> Hendikins, haven't tried 5.5 yet
[07:24] <Dreamglider> 64MB sorry****
[07:24] <Huhn_der_zwote> :)
[07:24] <bina> JDahl: thanks
[07:24] <thoreauputic> oh ubotu doesn't like editor wars !
[07:24] <Huhn_der_zwote> its an old vaio laptop
[07:24] <czr> Hendikins, just know that running anything under vmware is slow, so a question between using athlon-smp and 686-smp is moot
[07:25] <Dreamglider> Huhn_der_zwote, mine is an old fujitsu laptop
[07:25] <gnomefreak> Dreamglider, server install?
[07:25] <Hendikins> czr: Well, unless you're using a 4-way box, don't touch the dual virtual CPU support.
[07:25] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:25] <HelpmePlz> czr: im running the smp kernel, and i run xp pro on vmware and it runs perfectly.
[07:25] <Dreamglider> gnomefreak, no normal install
[07:25] <freak_> do Debian3.1(Sarge) packages work with ubuntu?
[07:25] <alekandr> firefox 1.5 loads everything so slow
[07:25] <Hendikins> czr: and I don't find VMware to be that slow. Of course, I've got dual 2GHz CPUs...
[07:25] <gnomefreak> Dreamglider, and it worked fine?
[07:25] <czr> HelpmePlz, I didn't say it wouldn't work, just slow
[07:25] <thoreauputic> Dreamglider: was it horribly slow?
[07:25] <HelpmePlz> czr: it's not slow for me :\
[07:25] <Dreamglider> gnomefreak, used gnome :) DANG it was slow as a mother ******
[07:25] <czr> well, it's slow for me :-)
[07:26] <gnomefreak> ahh yeah figured so
[07:26] <czr> that wasn't the point though
[07:26] <gnomefreak> 128 is min recommended
[07:26] <Niko-formerlyEag> where can I find more repositories for breezy?  none of the ones I'm using contain mplayer
[07:26] <Hendikins> czr: We gathered. My question was merely for curiousity value, as stated.
[07:26] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell NiklasH_work about easysource
[07:26] <thoreauputic> !info mplayer-586
[07:26] <freak_> do Debian packages work perfectly with ubuntu?
[07:26] <ubotu> mplayer-586: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3670 kB, Installed size: 7928 kB
[07:26] <gnomefreak> freak_, nooooooooo
[07:27] <Dreamglider> took about a minute to load the gnome menu lol
[07:27] <gnomefreak> sorry
[07:27] <thoreauputic> Niko-formerlyEag: you specify which one -and it is in multiverse
[07:27] <gnomefreak> packages yes sources no
[07:27] <czr> Hendikins, no athlon optimized kernel in supported ubuntu at least
[07:27] <monzie> all those who think Ubuntu would have been better off using XFCE as default desktop, say yes!
[07:27] <gnomefreak> ubuntu has most if not all debian packages and more
[07:27] <Niko-formerlyEag> thoreauputic: thank you
[07:27] <gabi> guys any reccomandation for a iptables GUI ?
[07:27] <czr> gabi, xterm? ;-)
[07:27] <freak_> so if i download packages for debian3.1 off their website, will they work will ubuntu ?
[07:27] <gnomefreak> firestarter
[07:28] <YannTech> hello all,
[07:28] <thoreauputic> freak_: don't do it
[07:28] <gnomefreak> freak_,  you shouldnt have to
[07:28] <thoreauputic> freak_: you *will* break something
[07:28] <Hendikins> Guaranteed
[07:28] <gnomefreak> freak_, what package are you looking for?
[07:28] <Dreamglider> who said xubuntu-desktop was 5kb packed and 32Kb installed ?
[07:28] <freak_> i need some package named menu, and apt repos dont have it
[07:28] <freak_> need it for fluxbox
[07:28] <gnomefreak> !info menu
[07:28] <YannTech> i want to create a DvD with all package (i586 arch) an apps to rsync with multiverse apps ?
[07:28] <ubotu> menu: (generates programs menu for all menu-aware applications), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 2.1.25 (breezy), Packaged size: 377 kB, Installed size: 1620 kB
[07:28] <thoreauputic> Dreamglider: it's a metapackage
[07:29] <gnomefreak> freak_, enable universe repo
[07:29] <Huhn_der_zwote> ok  the normal ubuntu setup crashed again, I'm gonna do the server one
[07:29] <Dreamglider> i just installed it, it is some 25Mb!
[07:29] <thoreauputic> Dreamglider: so it installs much more than that (all the deps)
[07:29] <Dreamglider> ok
[07:29] <thoreauputic> Dreamglider: apt-cache depends xubuntu-desktop to see :)
[07:29] <monzie> firestarter gabi
[07:30] <freak_> is there anyway to tell the ad/remove programs thing to automatically go to advanced?
[07:30] <gnomefreak> xubuntu-desktop is a full desktop with alot of extras
[07:30] <gnomefreak> freak_, enable universe
[07:30] <Dreamglider> ohyea :)
[07:30] <Huhn_der_zwote> ok, so sofar I just install as a normal server, right?
[07:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell freak_ about universe
[07:30] <freak_> gnomefreak, im going
[07:31] <freak_> ubotu tell gnomefreak i'm going
[07:31] <thoreauputic> freak_: look for synaptic package manager or type  gksudo synaptic at a terminal prompt
[07:31] <freemanen> how many people use ubuntu?
[07:31] <gnomefreak> :)
[07:31] <joergd> what software is used for the "ubotu" bot?
[07:31] <Dreamglider> i do.
[07:31] <thoreauputic> freemanen: how could we know?
[07:31] <freak_> i know
[07:31] <thoreauputic> joergd: it's ablootbot
[07:31] <gnomefreak> software?
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> What should a grub line look like if my main Ubuntu partition is sda5 (/), but /boot is on sda9?
[07:31] <thoreauputic> *blootbot
[07:32] <Lord_Athur> where does the apt-get program put the donwloaded .deb files?
[07:32] <Huhn_der_zwote> thoreauputic: I know before I thought I was smarter than you, but as the normal install failed I'll try the server one now. I just normally install the server thing and then enter these commands that install the xubuntu stuff, right?
[07:32] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic, bloodbot
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> I think grub-install is getting confused and not knowing that /boot is separate, so then at boot it tells me file not found.
[07:33] <Lord_Athur> hi all, where does the apt-get program put the donwloaded .deb files?
[07:33] <Blissex> tonyyarusso: you should have the boot partition number as the RUB root, but '/dev/sda5' for the kernel's root.
[07:33] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: yes, do the server install, edit your sources.list. update, and install the other stuff
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> Lord_Athur, It doesn't, it installs them directly with apt-get install.
[07:33] <Lord_Athur> ok
[07:33] <midwinter> Lord_Athur /var/cache/apt/archives
[07:33] <Lord_Athur> thanks
[07:33] <runxctry> hi everyone!  this is my first time using IRC, and i'm having some trouble installing ubuntu
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> Thanks, Blissex.  Will try that.
[07:33] <Huhn_der_zwote> update?
[07:33] <freak_> ok, how do i enable the universe repo
[07:34] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: note that xubuntu-desktop reaquires the universe repo in your sources
[07:34] <gnomefreak> freak_,  did you read the pm ubotu sent you?
[07:34] <monzie> Ubuntu starter guide freak_
[07:34] <jadewolf> kameron, Whats up buddy?
[07:34] <JarG0n> Ubuntu starter guide JarG0n
[07:34] <rickard> Anyone here play Tibia?
[07:34] <runxctry> actually i would like to know how to enable the universe and multiverse repositories too
[07:34] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: after editing your sources to include universe,  sudo apt-get update  to refresh the data in your list
[07:34] <Blissex> tonyyarusso: like 'root (0,8)', 'kernel (0,8)vmlinuz.... root=/dev/sda5'
[07:35] <freak_> gnomefreak, no i didn't send it again
[07:35] <Huhn_der_zwote> sorry, I know that nothing is more annoying than people that just don't get it when you're helping them, but what is the universe repo
[07:35] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell freak_ about universe
[07:35] <midwinter> !repositories
[07:35] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:35] <thoreauputic> !tell Huhn_der_zwote about repos
[07:35] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: universe is a store of software that apt/synaptic accesses, like main and multiverse
[07:36] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: you tell apt where to look and it gets the software for you and installs it
[07:36] <jadewolf> So what do you guys do with ubuntu? I need ideas what I can/should be doing with it? I have sold or given away all my windows stuff
[07:36] <Huhn_der_zwote> I need an internet connection for that?
[07:36] <gnomefreak> jadewolf, what do you use a computer for?
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> Blissex, I have 'root (hd0,8)', 'kernel  /boot/vmlinux.... root=/dev/sda5.  Should I change that to like yours?
[07:36] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: yes
[07:37] <runxctry> thanks for the link!!  can someone tell me how to enable the universe or multiverse repositories from the commandline?  i'm stuck in recovery mode
[07:37] <Huhn_der_zwote> well..
[07:37] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: the install shoud prompt to set that up for you
[07:37] <Huhn_der_zwote> I dont got internet on that laptop
[07:37] <JDahl> jadewolf, webbrowsing, emails, wordprocessing, programming?
[07:37] <gnomefreak> runedude, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:37] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: then you will have trouble
[07:37] <jadewolf> gnomefreak, personally I use it for internet, play games, listen to music, webdesign
[07:37] <rickard> !ntfs
[07:37] <ubotu> ntfs is probably the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[07:37] <Huhn_der_zwote> oh fuck it.
[07:37] <gnomefreak> jadewolf, than you can start with those :)
[07:37] <Huhn_der_zwote> I'm already starting to hate linux again
[07:38] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: you can't connect to another network?
[07:38] <gnomefreak> jadewolf, everyone uses ubuntu for different things
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> runxctry, gedit of course is gui, try pico, vi, or nano for editing on the command line.
[07:38] <jadewolf> gnomefreak, I figured as much just wanted to see if anyone had a 'special' thing they do with it
[07:38] <gnomefreak> i use it as primary OS everything ive done on windows and much much more :)
[07:38] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: another approach would be to install something really fast like Damn Small Linux
[07:38] <gnomefreak> gedit is not gui
[07:38] <monzie> Ubuntu should have a song , just like BSD
[07:38] <jadewolf> that and I can't get fallout 2 to work worth a crap, the menu fades so slowly it takes 2 minutes to just start and then fade
[07:38] <runxctry> got it, after i make the edit
[07:39] <runxctry> what do i do
[07:39] <Huhn_der_zwote> it will get difficult
[07:39] <Huhn_der_zwote> configuring the inet without a gui
[07:39] <Huhn_der_zwote> well I'll try
[07:39] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: Debian and Ubuntu both use the network extensively
[07:39] <midwinter> runxctry, just save it and then sudo apt-get update
[07:39] <gnomefreak> runxctry, read what ubotu posted and add the universe and multiverse to the list
[07:40] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: the installer normally uses dhcp to configure inet and it should be easy enough
[07:40] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: but be connected when you try the install
[07:40] <Huhn_der_zwote> ok thanks for your help.
[07:40] <tonyyarusso> Okay, time to see if I can boot.
[07:40] <kameron> jadewolf: hey man!
[07:40] <Huhn_der_zwote> during install I need to connected?
[07:40] <Huhn_der_zwote> daaaamn
[07:40] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: the fact that it is a gnome editor and not a CLI editor?
[07:40] <gnomefreak> Huhn_der_zwote, no not during
[07:40] <azatoth> hello! anyone uses drbd?
[07:41] <jadewolf> kameron, hey, I got everything working except wine runs game for crap, least my setup runs it bad
[07:41] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: it's easier if you are connected
[07:41] <kameron> jadewolf: wine is an art
[07:41] <JarG0n> "Configuring Bycyclerepair" ?!?!
[07:41] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic, its not graphical tho its still opens like nano for most part
[07:41] <jadewolf> kameron, wanna teach me to paint? :)
[07:41] <Huhn_der_zwote> I got a wlan extension
[07:41] <Huhn_der_zwote> but I need to config this first so it will access
[07:41] <midwinter> gnomefreak, it is?
[07:41] <jadewolf> vi is the best editor IMO
[07:41] <gnomefreak> thoreauputic, only for detecting hardware
[07:42] <kameron> jadewolf: haha.. i don't use it much. i just know it's tricky.
[07:42] <thoreauputic> gnomefreak: hmm never tried that :)
[07:42] <jadewolf> but I been using it since I played with Redhat 3.0.3
[07:42] <Huhn_der_zwote> whatever. I'll just try to install the server, then do the xubuntu stuff.. one thing at a time
[07:42] <rickard> !wine
[07:42] <kameron> jadewolf: i will be attempting CS:S today though, so i'll let you know how it goes.
[07:42] <jadewolf> kameron, everything runs just the menu takes for ever to fade
[07:42] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: why don't you just plug the nic in to a network and try it ?
[07:42] <gnomefreak> emacs looks more like a gui editor than gedit does
[07:42] <Huhn_der_zwote> because then this pc has no inet
[07:42] <Huhn_der_zwote> and I cant follow any further instructions
[07:42] <kameron> jadewolf, what menu? what game?
[07:42] <thoreauputic> Huhn_der_zwote: no network interface card?
[07:43] <kameron> jadewolf, #winehq
[07:43] <jadewolf> Huhn_der_zwote, I did server install, and then just apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:43] <alekandr> JAVA wont install for firefox :|
[07:43] <freak_> anyone have pekwm working on ubuntu
[07:43] <rickard> I don't have any windows left on my computer...  :D
[07:44] <gnomefreak> rickard, the worst that can happen is you mess something up cant fix it have to re-install
[07:44] <gnomefreak> roune?
[07:44] <roune> gnomefreak, im back haha :P, i was wondering, can it be coz i got both the gcc stuff and the build essetianls or something? :P
[07:44] <jadewolf> kameron, its a game from like 1998ish and its really fun, post nuclear war turn based RPG
[07:45] <runxctry> are backports and multiverse the same thing?
[07:45] <gnomefreak> roune,  its complaining about the wrong arc so either the package is only in 32bit or your sources are 32 bit
[07:45] <kameron> jadewolf, cool.
[07:45] <thoreauputic> runxctry: no
[07:45] <gnomefreak> runxctry, no
[07:46] <jadewolf> kameron, it is, you can be good ro evil :)
[07:46] <roune> gnomefreak, well, i got a friend that uses 64bits, and he got it working.. :/ but, he couldnt help me ither :/
[07:46] <Dreamglider> the only games i try to play on linux are the ones that get installed with it
[07:46] <gnomefreak> roune, what app is it again that is erroring ?
[07:46] <kameron> jadewolf, nice, reminds me of.. that.. game. i forget. damn. #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:47] <roune> gnomefreak, well, i think it is when im trying to install ndiswrapper, i cant do the "make" thing ^
[07:47] <gnomefreak> with build-essential make is installed
[07:47] <gnomefreak> roune, do you still have the pastebin sites?
[07:48] <roune> nope :/
[07:48] <erl_> oapp
[07:48] <flogiston> i seek for a lightweight musicplayer.
[07:48] <roune> gnomefreak,nope:/
[07:48] <flogiston> What do you recomend?
[07:48] <thoreauputic> flogiston: depends how light - on the command line you can use cplay or mp3blaster
[07:48] <gnomefreak> roune,  when you type make what happens?
[07:49] <thoreauputic> flogiston: in the GUI, probably beep-media-player
[07:49] <rickard> Is there any correspondence to bat files in linux?
[07:49] <flogiston> My bmp takes about 110MB at the moment.
[07:49] <thoreauputic> rickard:  bash scripts are sort of bat files on steroids I guess
[07:49] <roune> gnomefreak, well, i dont understand much of it .. umm..
[07:49] <boxy> hey czr you still here?
[07:50] <Huhn_der_zwote> Wtf, again the install didn't work.
[07:50] <gnomefreak> at the end of it does it say an error? roune
[07:50] <rickard> thoreauputic: how do I make them?
[07:50] <Huhn_der_zwote> the file for the preconfigured installation could not be load from (dir) you can continue with the manual install
[07:50] <thoreauputic> rickard: ummm - I can give you a link if you wait a bit
[07:50] <roune> gnomefreak, "make: *** [all]  Error 2" ^
[07:50] <moppy_> huhu, endlich xcaht
[07:51] <Korupt> is there any way to hide an application from the GNOME taskbar?
[07:51] <rickard> thoreauputic: yes, thanks
[07:51] <moppy_> oops
[07:51] <gnomefreak> roune, you started with a tar.gz file right?
[07:51] <Huhn_der_zwote> this makes me go crazy.
[07:51] <thoreauputic> rickard: http://www.freeos.com/guides/lsst/
[07:51] <ivoks> hellou
[07:51] <ivoks> one question
[07:51] <roune> gnomefreak, it also says something like :"gcc-3.4: Command not found"
[07:51] <Huhn_der_zwote> why wont the preconfigured installations work?
[07:51] <ivoks> how the hell can i disable "wait for dial tone (x3)" in network-admin?
[07:51] <Huhn_der_zwote> better why can't they be found
[07:52] <gnomefreak> roune, sudo apt-get install gcc gcc3.4
[07:52] <thoreauputic> rickard: learning bash is a bit n=more than DOS - as in a huge lot more :)
[07:52] <gnomefreak> bash is fun :))
[07:52] <roune> gnomefreak, i unzipped the tar.gz file, and now im standing "in" it
[07:52] <ivoks> or in /etc/ppp? any solutions is welcome :)
[07:52] <czr> boxy, yeha
[07:52] <czr> yeah even :-)
[07:52] <gnomefreak> roune, did you happen to run ./configure?
[07:52] <boxy> czr, hah when i try to boot the smp kernel it hangs at configing the network could this have anything to do with ndiswrapper?
[07:52] <runxctry> thanks everyone for the help, i got universe enabled -- installing the package didn't fix the problem but at least i connected to the repository
[07:52] <roune> gnomefreak, "nu such file or directory"
[07:52] <JarG0n> after installing Ubuntu, how can I go about correcting video problems (cursor freezes top left, black screen) that occurr after loading the "Starting Hardware Extraction Layer" module?
[07:53] <sproingie> extraction?
[07:53] <gnomefreak> roune, after unpacking the tar you cded into the new file that it made right?
[07:53] <czr> boxy, most definitely
[07:53] <JarG0n> I think that's what it said
[07:53] <czr> boxy, ndiswrapper is satans little helper :-)
[07:53] <roune> gnomefreak, the apt-get said"gcc is already the newst version"
[07:53] <Huhn_der_zwote> What can I do against the preconfigured installations not working?!
[07:53] <boxy> czr heh i agree but my WiFi disagrees with that comment :P
[07:53] <roune> gnomefreak, yes, a ...directory
[07:54] <boxy> czr so what should i do?
[07:54] <czr> boxy, then your wifi is in league with satan :-)
[07:54] <gnomefreak> ok good now type ./configure --help
[07:54] <boxy> czr, i'd love to go buy a new one but i cant lol
[07:54] <czr> boxy, call your local excorsist? if you had ht, then you need to decide whether you need ht or not :-)
[07:54] <czr> boxy, you might want to try to find an smp version of the wifi driver
[07:54] <boxy> its a linksys windows driver though
[07:54] <gnomefreak> roune, also give me page of wiki you are using please
[07:54] <czr> boxy, and then rebuild ndiswrapper maybe, I haven't ever touched ndiswrapper (for good reasons), so I wouldn't know
[07:54] <lynx> Does anyone know which folders contain temp files and cookies so I can keep those clean
[07:55] <gnomefreak> czr, rounes learning :)
[07:55] <boxy> is it possible to have apt-get build it rather then download the dep?
[07:55] <stian> How can i configure my usb mouse to get a working scroll wheel?
[07:55] <czr> gnomefreak, rounes?
[07:55] <lynx> I know in windows I had to go through and clean out the cache
[07:55] <azatoth> anyone has running drbd? i would need help please.
[07:55] <stian> any idea, im using kde
[07:55] <gnomefreak> czr, yes hes playing with those drivers as we speak
[07:56] <czr> lynx, browsers have their own caches, otherwise programs should put their temp stuff under /tmp
[07:56] <roune> gnomefreak, for the moment i closed them all, but i followed the "how to" u sent me.. then the iwconfig didnt fint my card, so then i went into some link.. gimme a sec n ill track it ^^
[07:56] <czr> gnomefreak, ah, thought rounes was a word :-)
[07:56] <rickard> !vi
[07:56] <ubotu> rickard: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[07:56] <rickard> huh?
[07:56] <JDahl> boxy, yes. apt-get build -s <package>
[07:56] <gnomefreak> !vim
[07:56] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Do they come in packets of five?
[07:56] <rickard> !vim
[07:56] <gnomefreak> !cream
[07:56] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, gnomefreak
[07:56] <ivoks> !vim
[07:56] <gnomefreak> rickard, he dont know
[07:56] <lynx> oh, I see.  I thought ubuntu cleaned out the temp and cache files auto
[07:57] <roune> gnomefreak, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[07:57] <rickard> how do I save a file in vi?
[07:57] <ivoks> lynx: it does, after reboot
[07:57] <Hendikins> rickard: :w
[07:57] <czr> it might clean /tmp, but not the browser temps
[07:57] <ivoks> czr: right
[07:57] <boxy> JDahl, E: Invalid operation build
[07:57] <rickard> Hendikins: that just writes ":w" in the text
[07:57] <czr> also kde and gnome have their own temps under your home directory for image thumbnails and so forth
[07:58] <lynx> ok, thanks.  I remember someone said there was a program in ubuntu that worked in the background to keep them clean