[00:00] <goddard> dem0n: hey why do you like ruby?
[00:00] <dem0n> goddard: this all happened when i was upgrading from ruby1.8 to ruby1.9
[00:00] <dem0n> ruby is a great language
[00:01] <iceroot> caiotarifa: in the ubuntu repos for example on 12.04 there is version 1.x of a program. that version will only get security updates, so that you get 1.0-2 for example which will only fix security updates, you will never (there are some exceptions like firefox, thunderbird, flash) get a newer version then 1.x, so you will never see version 2.x in the repos
[00:01] <goddard> dem0n: ruby is extremely slow and python is the scripting language of choice and is fast
[00:01] <kunji> Ruby dependencies are god-awful
[00:01] <mladoux> goddard where do you get that from?
[00:01] <BAT-21> I just got an ircd running on my desktop. I can connect via XChat using localhost. What is the next step? I'm sure I need port forwarding but don't know where to go next. Any help is appreciated. Please?
[00:01] <caiotarifa> iceroot: So… I'll install everything with aptitude? And I should not continue my project to install the latest versions?
[00:01] <kunji> I find Python kind meh, but I know a lot of other people that like it
[00:02] <caiotarifa> iceroot: Is it the best way?
[00:02] <iceroot> caiotarifa: 1. you should not use aptitude when you have a amd64 system
[00:02] <mladoux> bad code is slow, usually not a fault of the language.
[00:02] <iceroot> !aptitude | caiotarifa
[00:02] <goddard> mladoux: it is a well known fact
[00:02] <KxTwo> dpkg -S /usr/share/xsessions/FILL_THIS_PART_IN
[00:02] <mladoux> goddard: not one I've experienced, since i code in ruby
[00:02] <iceroot> caiotarifa: 2. you should only install software from the repos and not from other sources
[00:02] <goddard> mladoux: if you are always on ruby sites no one is going to say ruby is horrible
[00:03] <KxTwo> some one posted that earlier, can I remove everything but ubuntu and ubuntu-2d?
[00:03] <BAT-21> I need someone to check out my irc server but need help with port forwarding. . .please.
[00:03] <hangdeadman> How can I Root my lg optimus v using ubuntu 12.04?
[00:03] <iceroot> hangdeadman: #android
[00:03] <mladoux> goddard sure they do, they just usually don't back them up with actual statistics or quantifiable tests
[00:03] <friskd> of waiting servers which would essentially  receive this new payload, do some work which could take up to 30 seconds. Then return a JSON value back to the (Master Server) and then of course be returned to the original requestor.  What technologies are out there to help me do this so it scales well.
[00:03] <goddard> mladoux: just google it
[00:03] <hangdeadman> iceroot: thanks
[00:03] <iceroot> BAT-21: you should have a look at the manual for your router how to do port forwarding
[00:03] <goddard> mladoux: its not a mystery
[00:03] <BAT-21> thanks iceroot
[00:04] <BAT-21> after that I will share links for people to try it out.
[00:04] <mladoux> goddard I'm happy with ruby, it runs fast on every system I've run it on, and I've no reason to do python, so I don't see why the burden of proof should be on me.
[00:04] <goddard> mladoux: for the desktop and web python is the fastest then php then ruby
[00:04] <mladoux> anyway, i'm dropping this.
[00:04] <mladoux> I've got work to do.
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> hangdeadman: copy the files to the SD card from Ubuntu and then use the reboot + hold keys to get the console as usual
[00:05] <caiotarifa> iceroot: hen, ok, I think I'll rethink my idea.
[00:05] <goddard> mladoux: me to and I am using python/php to do it
[00:06] <iceroot> caiotarifa: and normally you cant provide a installer for all distros for a specific program, because each distro is doing it a little bit different (different paths, some are using sys v init, some upstart, some systemd)
[00:06] <goddard> mladoux: im actually at work right now :D
[00:06] <iceroot> caiotarifa: there are so mayn differences in the distros
[00:06] <kunji> ... scripting languages...
[00:07] <goddard> kunji: scripting languages are great
[00:08] <caiotarifa> iceroot: you're right
[00:08] <goddard> kunji: well some :D
[00:08] <kunji> goddard: Hmm, yes and no, I wouldn't say they're great for performance, at least in most cases
[00:08] <iceroot> caiotarifa: if you always want the newest software, there are distros for that case (debian sid, gentoo, arch for example), then there are distros where you will get major updates within a release which is still tested (sles for example), then there are distros where you will never see a major update within a release (debian (stable), ubuntu)
[00:09] <goddard> kunji: like what?
[00:09] <goddard> kunji: your network driver... well then of course
[00:09] <kunji> goddard: You mean what ones would I say are good, or bad?
[00:09] <iceroot> caiotarifa: and on webservers you always want ultra stable software, even ubuntu is (in my opionion) not ultra stable because the software is new, you want something like debian stable on a webserver where the software is tested over years
[00:09] <goddard> sure
[00:09] <kunji> goddard: or use cases?
[00:10] <iceroot> caiotarifa: but on a desktop, ultra stable is to old, there you want newer software like the newest libreoffice for better ms office integration, the newest firefox and so on and there comes for example ubuntu instead of debian stable (in my opinion)
[00:11] <kunji> Generally I like Matlab for things I need performance for, I haven't really assessed performance for most of the others, but I like coding with php, python performance has seemed pretty good, javascript performance has gotten a lot better recently but it still isn't good (but I still like coding with it sort of)
[00:11] <goddard> kunji: both
[00:12] <kunji> I use Matlab or C/C++ for neuron simulations.  Most of what I've used scripting for outside of Matlab has mainly been tinkering with stuff on my home server.
[00:12] <caiotarifa> iceroot: hen, your opinion makes sense, debian is the best option to run my webserver?
[00:13] <iceroot> caiotarifa: in my opinion debian is the best system if you want a really stable system
[00:13] <kunji> At some point I really need to take some time and look at OpenCL and CUDA...
[00:14] <iceroot> caiotarifa: but ubuntu has 5 years support for security updates (12.04) debian maybe 2-3
[00:14] <KsM> er
[00:14] <KsM> what
[00:15] <caiotarifa> iceroot: I know it's the same family of Ubuntu, but I really never installed debian.
[00:15] <dem0n> anyone have any suggestions for my issues with rubygems on ubuntu lucid?
[00:15] <KsM> debian has only 3 years of security updates?
[00:15] <iceroot> KsM: yes
[00:15] <iceroot> KsM: depending on how fast the next stable will be released
[00:16] <iceroot> lenny was imo 3 years
[00:16] <KsM> lenny just got dropped a few months ago
[00:16] <iceroot> KsM: lenny dropped on 14.2.2012
[00:16] <iceroot> or was it 14.2.2011? dont know anymore
[00:17] <KsM> "lenny EOL 2012-02-06"
[00:17] <goddard> kunji: you do neuron simulations?
[00:17] <iceroot> KsM: that is not "a few months"
[00:17] <KsM> it is in my time
[00:18] <zivester> how does one install the linux headers in 12.10 ? virtualbox is telling me it can't find them
[00:18] <ubuntulover> How do I make bootable dual layer DVD? They are Memorex.
[00:18] <iceroot> KsM: and it was 2009 - 2012
[00:18] <kunji> goddard: I was, I haven't done any too recently working of some finite state machine stuff for my thesis right now, but I think I'll probably go back to the neuron stuff afterwards.
[00:18] <iceroot> KsM: so its 3 years
[00:18] <iceroot> KsM: released 14.2.2009
[00:19] <iceroot> KsM: etch was only 2 years
[00:19] <caiotarifa> iceroot: You're leaving me confused, lol. Do you think I should learn Debian or continue using Ubuntu? Ubuntu has a long time support than Debian… but Debian is more stable...
[00:19] <iceroot> KsM: so as i said "depending when the new stable release is ready", so normally 2-3 years of support
[00:19] <ActionParsnip> caiotarifa: why not both?
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> caiotarifa: stability is subject to config and so forth
[00:20] <iceroot> caiotarifa: as i said, on webservers you want ultra stable (but old) software, you dont need the latest apache2 for example, you dont the latest openssh-server (bad example for debian...)
[00:20] <iceroot> caiotarifa: and ubuntu is using newer versions for apache2 and so on which is not tested so long then the old ultra stable debian version
[00:22] <iceroot> you also dont need kernel 3.6 on a server, there you want a ultra stable kernel which is tested (and also have longterm support) like 2.6.32 or 2.6.18
[00:22] <caiotarifa> iceroot: it's clear to me now… thanks for the tips friend!
[00:22] <ubuntulover> Anyone??
[00:23] <iceroot> caiotarifa: :) you are welcome
[00:23] <kunji> iceroot: kernel 3.2 wasn't so great for me...
[00:23] <ubuntulover> I need to know how to make bootable dual layer Ubuntu 12.10 DVDs... Memorex Dual Layer
[00:23] <bentinata> ubuntulover, use UNetBootIn
[00:23] <iceroot> caiotarifa: in the end its up to you what you will be using, both, ubuntu and debian are great systems and its not bad to know both systems
[00:25] <MK`> What is the name of the laptop battery applet in 11.10 for gnome fallback? Mine crashed, want to reenable it.
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> MK`: just so you know, Oneiric is EOL soon
[00:26] <ubuntulover> bentinata Do I use Hard Disk or USB Drive in UNetBootIn
[00:26] <MK`> I'm aware yes
[00:26] <MK`> This is sort of a now-problem X)
[00:26] <caiotarifa> iceroot: You're right, but for some reason I'm afraid of debian, it seems complicated. Don't even know how to install in a virtual machine.
[00:27] <ActionParsnip> MK`: cool. does a log off and on not resolve it?
[00:27] <kunji> Huh, if anything I would have said Debian was simpler than Ubuntu.
[00:27] <iceroot> caiotarifa: ubuntu is using the debian installer :) so its the same way
[00:27] <iceroot> caiotarifa: you will not see much difference in both systems
[00:27] <MK`> ActionParsnip I'm sure it will, but I am not able to log off right now.
[00:28] <iceroot> caiotarifa: especially if you are a beginner, both systems will look the same (debian is not using unity) but for the rest you will not see much differences
[00:29] <caiotarifa> iceroot: In last time I was trying to download version 6, had 51 CDs.
[00:29] <caiotarifa> iceroot: I started wrong? lol
[00:29] <iceroot> caiotarifa: easily spoken, ubuntu is debian with newer packages (thats what you will see as a beginner), for a more experiant user you will see more differences (upstart, systemd, not sudo on debian by default)
[00:29] <iceroot> caiotarifa: you only need cd1
[00:29] <kunji> caiotarifa: I think you were looking at the one including all repos or something
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> caiotarifa: debian only has all those CDs for offline installs of software. You only need the first one really. The rest is online
[00:31] <zykotick9> iceroot: i see you point, but "ubuntu is debian with newer packages" is a misrepresentation of the truth...
[00:31] <iceroot> zykotick9: easily spoken for beginners
[00:31] <caiotarifa> ActionParsnip: So… There is a version called live, is that?
[00:31] <caiotarifa> iceroot: Well… now less fearful. :)
[00:32] <caiotarifa> iceroot: I'll download it and install.
[00:33] <iceroot> zykotick9: dont know how to describe it better with a few words if a beginner is asking what is debian if he already knows ubuntu but i am open for a better (short) description
[00:33] <caiotarifa> iceroot: Many people recommended to me CentOS to make a webserver, you have an opinion about?
[00:33] <iceroot> !debian
[00:34] <zykotick9> iceroot: well, you can say "ubuntu is based off of debian" ;)  it would be difficult to describe all the differences in a short message...
[00:34] <kunji> caiotarifa: CentOS sucks balls, just my opinion of course ^_^, I much prefer apt based distros
[00:34] <iceroot> caiotarifa: centOS is "the same" as RHEL, which is a enterprise distro, i would not recommend it for normal LAMP systems but for oracle databases, sap systems, uc4 server and so on
[00:34] <caiotarifa> kunji: loool
[00:35] <codephobic> hi
[00:35] <iceroot> zykotick9: i like the one from ubottu  :)
[00:35] <caiotarifa> iceroot: I understand… But cPanel uses, right? Do you know why?
[00:36] <zykotick9> iceroot: i agree :)
[00:36] <codephobic> I'm trying to install zend framework 2 on ubuntu server, this is my first stab at it and I can't find a decent tutorial, any advice?
[00:38] <iceroot> caiotarifa: you will gace problems when you will be using enterprise software like oracle databases, sap and other evil stuff, they dont support debian and ubuntu officially, so then you have to use a supported distro like RHEL, SLES or unbreakable linux and CentOS is "just" the same as RHEL without the trademarks. CentOS, RHEL, SLES and unbreakable Linux are using rpm instead of deb, so you dont have apt-get/aptitude. every dis
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[00:40] <mjj29> Hi all. I've recently moved to lubuntu
[00:40] <mjj29> and I have a few questions. Firstly, how can I get it to change to a dvorak keyboard layout everywhere? I can change it when I log it, but then it forgets it (and isn't true in lxdm for login)
[00:41] <mjj29> secondly, /etc/init.d and /etc/rc.d don't appear to be behaving as I expect them to. My service doesn't seem to be being started.  I added a script using update-rc.d to my bootup, and now my ubuntu server won't boot because it runs a daemon but i forgot to tell it to run in background
[00:54] <drek> it just runs the script and stops there
[00:54] <drek> instead of continuing booting
[00:55] <kunji> drek: have you got physical access to it, if so you can boot a livecd and fix it up
[00:55] <drek> i'm running it with vmware
[00:56] <drek> so i have to boot it with an livecd and fix that then?
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> drek: can you boot to root recovery mode?
[00:56] <drek> i don't know, how would i do that?
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> drek: hold SHIFT at boot
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> drek: select recovery mode, select root
[00:57] <drek> oooh, nice
[00:57] <XMLnewbi> after I run it terminal really isnt happy   when i hit enter it gives me my dir     XXX@XXXX:/home/user            and when i type it doesnt show my text
[00:58] <kunji> ActionParsnip: oh, hmm, cool, I wasn't sure if recovery mode would try running the script or not
[00:58] <XMLnewbi> is there a way to get out of that, or just restart the terminal?
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> XMLnewbi: try typing:  source ~/.bashrc     is it then ok?
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> kunji: nar, its recovery. Same as run level 1, single user
[00:58] <drek> oh but i'm in recovery mode now, but everything seems to be read only
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> XMLnewbi: I just run:  reboot
[00:58] <Noctifer> hi can someone recommend a sub-notebook (i have a dell mini with ubuntu atm) to run ubuntu on?
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> drek: run:   mount -o rw,remount /
[00:59] <drek> awesome, that did the trick!
[01:00] <drek> thanks so much for the help everyone! :)
[01:00] <kunji> XMLnewbi: is that the GUI terminal?  If so, have you tried going to the menu for it Terminal -> Reset and Clear ?
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> Noctifer: www.linux-laptop.net
[01:00] <XMLnewbi> reboot worked
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> drek: np :)
[01:02] <XMLnewbi> soo, I tried to install ispconfig3 on my server, It said it finished but apache had errors, I assume because it trying to use SSL but dont have libssl-dev installed. Is there differnt route to install SSL librarys?
[01:02] <kunji> Hmm, that's weird... restarting networking crashes my GUI on 12.10, in particular /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-settings-daemon crashes apparently
[01:02] <XMLnewbi> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/           i get a 400 Bad Request error
[01:04] <crazyhorse> hi i have my umask set to 0007 and my umask in sudoers set to 0007 when i run the command sudo ln --force --symbolic /path/where/i/want /symlink_name   the symlink gets created with the lrwxrwxrwx.  Is this normal?
[01:04] <jrib> crazyhorse: yes, symlink permissions are meaningless
[01:04] <crazyhorse> ok, so just ignore them and look at the target files
[01:05] <jrib> crazyhorse: correct
[01:11] <rootbrian> I have question, how in the world do you make ubuntu (or xorg xserver) display at a higher resolution than 1280x1024 (windows does higher, I know this for a fact), since my monitor supports 1400x1050 and 1920x1080.
[01:12] <rootbrian> graphics card is an ATI HD 4650
[01:12] <jrib> !fixres | rootbrian
[01:12] <rootbrian> by gigabyte
[01:12] <dr_willis> you installed the fglrx drivers?
[01:12] <jrib> yes, make sure you've installed the drivers for your card if you haven't
[01:13] <rootbrian> well I was curious about modifying the configuration file to allow more than what the monitor supposively supports.
[01:13] <rootbrian> yes, I have that driver installed
[01:13] <jrib> rootbrian: ubottu's link details that
[01:13] <rootbrian> I'll have a look.
[01:14] <kunji> rootbrian: quite often I find just renaming the xorg.conf and letting a new one get generated on boot fixes those sorts of problems for me, but not always, and it can sometimes not boot to a GUI, so know how to name it back before  doing it.
[01:15] <Dantes> hi , i need some hel
[01:15] <Dantes> help*
[01:15] <Dantes> ok, so this is the problem....
[01:15] <Dantes> i installed ubuntu ,
[01:15] <kunji> Oh, so that's the problem :P
[01:16] <Dantes> i have windows 7 too
[01:16] <Dantes> but now that i installed ubuntu i cant boot win7
[01:16] <Dantes> :/
[01:16] <Dantes> i tried f8 on startup but nothing happens.
[01:16] <Dantes> it starts booting ubuntu
[01:16] <Dantes> anyway.
[01:16] <ActionParsnip> Dantes: did you install using Wubi, or did you resize ntfs and install to the freed space?
[01:16] <kunji> Do you see it in the Grub menu?  What errors are you getting?  Did you maybe install Ubuntu overtop of windows?
[01:17] <Dantes> thank you both for helping.
[01:17] <ActionParsnip> Dantes: if you run:  sudo fdisk -l   in a terminal, do you see an NTFS partition?
[01:17] <Dantes> 1 moment.
[01:18] <ProfesorDavis> hello all, i have a specific ubuntu question
[01:18] <Dantes> http://pastie.org/private/rld3vgtwdpefbcakku818w
[01:18] <Dantes> that's the output of fdisk -l
[01:18] <kunji> Oh good there is one
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> Dantes: and the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> Dantes: you can paste here, its one line
[01:19] <Dantes> root@georgije:/# cat /etc/issue
[01:19] <Dantes> BackBox Linux 3.0 \n \l
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> Dantes: not supported here
[01:19] <Dantes> it's backbox distro of ubuntu
[01:19] <thurstylark> How do I enable alt-tab across workspaces in unity?
[01:19] <ActionParsnip> Dantes: no, its a spinoff, we don't support spinoffs here
[01:19] <Dantes> :/
[01:20] <kunji> ProfesorDavis: Don't ask to ask, just ask the question
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> Dantes: http://forum.backbox.org/announcements/new-irc-server-and-channel/
[01:20] <ActionParsnip> Dantes: they have their own server and channel
[01:20] <Dantes> thank you
[01:20] <ProfesorDavis> sure thing, why is it that on unix i can type ls /volumes to see all installed harddrives
[01:21] <ActionParsnip> Dantes: no problemmo
[01:21] <ProfesorDavis> but when i do it on terminal on ubuntu i get no info?
[01:21] <kunji> Dantes: As he says, we don't support it here, but my general impression is that you should maybe look at running that Grub 2 script that finds the installs OSs
[01:21] <kunji> *installed
[01:22] <XMLnewbi> sudo echo 1 > /etc/pure-ftpd/conf/TLS permission denied
[01:22] <kunji> ProfesorDavis: I haven't really used unix, but my guess would be that drives are mounted by default in the /volumes directory on unix?  But on Ubuntu in /media, so try ls /media and see if that is what you were expecting.
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> XMLnewbi: sudo doesn't traverse the redirect
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> XMLnewbi: echo 1 | sudo tee /etc/pure-ftpd/conf/TLS
[01:23] <ProfesorDavis> i see, will do
[01:23] <ActionParsnip> XMLnewbi: the only part of your command with sudo access, is the echo command
[01:23] <ProfesorDavis> thansk kunji it worked
[01:24] <ActionParsnip> XMLnewbi: or 'tee -a' instead of '>>'
[01:24] <kunji> ProfesorDavis: anytime ^_^
[01:26] <kunji> Does bridge-utils work with wireless interfaces?
[01:26] <kunji> http://www.serverubuntu.it/openvpn-bridge-configuration  I was looking to use wlan0 where they have eth0, but it doesn't seem to work for me
[01:32] <XMLnewbi> it keeps doing this too me...         apt-get install bind9 dnsutils               then it displays a changelog          *SECURITY UPDATE ect ect ect.......       Marc Desuriers@email bla bla           then my command line goes away and im left with :         cant see my txt or get back to normal
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> XMLnewbi: If you run:  source ~/.bashrc     is it ok?
[01:34] <XMLnewbi> "Input is not a pipe"
[01:35] <craigbass1976> I've got a PointOfSale cash drawer with an 1/8" phone jack.  Used to be a wire I had for this where the other end was an RJ something (not cat5, but telephone type)  Anyone had any experience with popping one of these open using sound?
[01:35] <XMLnewbi> no that doesnt fix it
[01:35] <XMLnewbi>  source ~/.bashrc
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> XMLnewbi: but you can type the comamnd and it runs?
[01:36] <kunji> XMLnewbi: Is it maybe still running something or hung trying to contact some server?  Does Ctrl+C  stop it?
[01:37] <Aerosonic> Hey guys! What's a good alternative for a tiling windowmanager for Ubuntu? Xmonad just doens't do it like it used to.
[01:37] <ActionParsnip> Aerosonic: fluxbox
[01:37] <aguitel> how make autologin with gdm?
[01:37] <kunji> Aerosonic: You could try the Awesome Window Manager, haven't used it myself though
[01:37] <Aerosonic> ActionParsnip: Fluxbox is not tiling.
[01:38] <XMLnewbi> after a few control c's I get my command promt back, but look very differnt, doesnt break the command into lines, cd and ls work but I cant see what im typeing
[01:38] <XMLnewbi> I think im rebooting and changing distros from 12.04 to 12.10
[01:38] <SolarisBoy>  installed an ubuntu system using the net install due to lack of cd drive - this is a reinstall and unity worked fine on my previous h/w so i'd like to put it back - what would be the best steps to add the standard graphics packages so i have unity interface and the fall back options at my login screen
[01:38] <ActionParsnip> aguitel: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-enable-automatic-login-in-ubutnu.html
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> Aerosonic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager
[01:39] <ActionParsnip> Aerosonic: specifically http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiling_window_manager#List_of_tiling_window_managers_for_X
[01:39] <aguitel> ActionParsnip,  i installed minimal ubuntu
[01:39] <SolarisBoy> awesome seems cool but i haven't wrapped my head around the configs
[01:40] <kunji> Aerosonic: Like I was saying, I've heard good things about awesome
[01:40] <ActionParsnip> aguitel: awesome, dwm
[01:40] <aguitel> ActionParsnip,  what that means
[01:40] <Aerosonic> kunji: I'll try it out.
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> !info awesome | aguitel
[01:41] <ActionParsnip> !info dwm | aguitel
[01:41] <aguitel> ActionParsnip, need to remove gdm first?
[01:42] <ActionParsnip> aguitel: you can use gdm if you wish
[01:45] <randal> not sure how to use this channel, but i have an acer aspire one 725-0687 and am havein a heck of a time trying to install.
[01:46] <ActionParsnip> randal: what happens when you start the install from the CD?
[01:47] <randal> when i use windows installer, it all installs find but than when it turns back on it tries to load but comes back with an error saying 'the application or opersating system could not be loaded...."
[01:48] <wbf> can anyone precompile the pegasus driver?
[01:48] <wbf> I meant *compile*
[01:48] <wbf> because I cannot
[01:49] <ben__517> hello
[01:49] <ben__517> how does this work?
[01:50] <wbf> can anyone make the pegasus deiver for me?
[01:50] <wbf> driver*
[01:50] <wbf> my computer resuses to make it
[01:50] <wbf> as in I get a REALLY long error
[01:50] <wbf> fuses*
[01:51] <wbf> refuses*
[01:52] <wbf> Hello?
[01:52] <wbf> Anyone?
[01:53] <wbf> can someone help me?
[01:53] <MACMIND> with what ?
[01:54] <PDun> Ask the question?
[01:54] <MACMIND> I think he needs help with asking the question
[01:54] <wbf> with my belkin and pegasus
[01:54] <wbf> I cannot compile pegasus.
[01:59] <dlentz> wbf: output from make/configure (or wherever you're getting stuck) might be helpful...
[02:00] <dlentz> !pastebin | wbf
[02:00] <wbf> dlentz, was waiting for YOU. will post soon
[02:01] <wbf> dlentz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1515418/
[02:02] <cmj141> question, i just downloaded a zip file fro the net, where do i extract the files (Android SDK bundle) to??
[02:03] <cmj141> i read package manager installs it for me and does all that work but i didnt use a package manager so im up s**t's creek without a paddle
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> cmj141: just put it where you like
[02:03] <dlentz> wbf, i'll look into it. why do you need to build the pegasus module? it hsould already be in kernel. do you need a newer version?
[02:04] <cmj141> ActionParsnip, ok, is there a specific file that holds software installed though? like 'etc' or 'opt'?
[02:05] <cmj141> not file i mean folder
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> cmj141: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AndroidSDK
[02:05] <wbf> dlentz, probably, do you have the link to the newer source?
[02:05] <cmj141> yeah i read that.. doesnt tell me where to extract to
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> cmj141: there is no set folder, you can use what you want
[02:05] <cmj141> oh thats not the same one
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> cmj141: why not make a subfolder in $HOME and use that
[02:06] <wbf> dlentz, cause i'm trying to get ubuntu for arm network working on my UG802 that's why I need to build it
[02:06] <cmj141> ActionParsnip, thanks for your help, Ill just follow that site you sent me.. that looks better than the others i read about putting them in Opt
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> cmj141: opt is another option, it doesn't matter as long as there is enough space on the partition you make the folder
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> cmj141: just don't put it in /run or /proc or some other tempfs folder :)
[02:08] <wbf> dlentz, are you there?
[02:09] <dlentz> yes, still researching
[02:10] <BAT-21> I set up my Cisco router to forward ports 6667 thru 6669, but when I try to connect an IRC client to my public ip address it cannot connect. It doesn't look like the settings are being saved in the router. It wants a 192.168.1.* and I'm not sure what to put in place of the *
[02:11] <wbf> BAT-21, go to your IRC machine and say ifconfig in terminal
[02:11] <OSSforALL> Greetings, Why when I do a new install at times on different machines....Sometimes it will let me do a Side By Side, other times It only asks if i want to replace windows? I need to do a side by side on this one machine?
[02:11] <BAT-21> ok brb
[02:12] <dlentz> wbf, latest code is http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=tree;f=drivers/net/usb;h=e7648dda9bdcb6b98fadc66bfc80d81a1b0ee8a0;hb=HEAD
[02:12] <wbf> BAT-21, you should see eth0 then it should say  inet addr: (Here is your network IP)
[02:13] <wbf> BAT-21, that is what your supposed to put into your router
[02:13] <BAT-21> okay
[02:13] <BAT-21> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1515454/
[02:13] <BAT-21> connected on wlan0
[02:13] <OSSforALL> Hello BluesKaj , it's designbybeck, I'm on a friends machine and trying to do a clean install. But it doesn't ask me to do a side by side install, only replace windows?
[02:14] <blez> what do I need to make a live usb?
[02:14] <wbf> BAT-21, See <IP_ADDRESS>? just put .137 in the port forward
[02:14] <wbf> BAT-21,  as in 137
[02:14] <OSSforALL> blez:  check http://ubuntu.com and look at the install instructions, they will show you what to download and use on any OS
[02:14] <BAT-21> okay. thanks. here goes
[02:14] <Cyber_Akuma> This is kinda silly but... is there any livecd or liveusb option to completely load disk/usbdrive into RAM and thus not need the drive anymore until you reboot?
[02:14] <dlentz> wbf, this article says wifi isn't working for ug802 yet: http://liliputing.com/2012/12/now-you-can-install-ubuntu-on-the-ug802-mk802-iii-or-other-rk3066-mini-pcs.html
[02:15] <wbf> dlentz, I am actually using an external adapter
[02:16] <wbf> BAT-21, can you connect now?
[02:16] <dlentz> wbf, oh, then i'm confused (sorry)
[02:16] <Cyber_Akuma> completely load the live disk/usbdrive*
[02:16] <BAT-21> still no connect
[02:17] <BAT-21> the settings saved though, probably using the wrong ip now
[02:17] <wbf> BAT-21, let's go into a private chat
[02:18] <BAT-21> okay, not sure how
[02:20] <moes> Ubuntu-12.04..Ran top and bluetooth-apple..pid 6746..running at 100% cpu..How do I delete ?
[02:21] <root_> moes, open the terminal and type "killall bluetooth-applet" or "kill -9 6746".
[02:26] <nic013> anyone here using globe tattoo repaid stick?
[02:26] <nic013> anyone here using globe tattoo prepaid stick?
[02:26] <sizzlefire> Hello all! I was hoping somebody could point me in the right direction with using cifs-utils and why its not working quite right with windows
[02:27] <sizzlefire> I have a share mounted to my windows computer with the command //theip/Users /media/folder cifs domain=domain,username=user,password=secret,uid=me,rw but I do not have write access as me, only as root, and I read the whole man page and everything I tried did not work, including adding rw and a uid, gid, forceuid, etc
[02:28] <anon2739324> Hi! Anyone familiar with tor here? I am confused about what I have to do to use it with firefox... Is it enough to use localhost:9050 as a proxy for SOCKS?
[02:28] <moes> root_, The command didn't seem to work but the bluetooth-apple now gone from tops..Thanks
[02:28] <devnill> .quit
[02:28] <yugnip> anon2739324, grab the tor bundle and you have 0 config
[02:29] <anon2739324> yugnip, it is just so slow, and takes so long to start...
[02:29] <yugnip> anon2739324, tor now recommends the bundle, and i believe vidalia is discontinued
[02:30] <anon2739324> doing what I said, check.torproject.org says my browser is configured to use tor
[02:30] <anon2739324> yeah, they do recommend
[02:30] <cmj141> ok so i downloaded eclipse.zip and extracted it to my home folder, how do i create an icon for slingshot to launch it?
[02:30] <anon2739324> in fact, they almost threaten you not to use vidalia
[02:30] <anon2739324> it's pretty weird
[02:30] <anon2739324> things are poorly described in the documentation
[02:30] <anon2739324> but I don't want to just use the bundle blindly, you know
[02:31] <anon2739324> also torify confuses me
[02:31] <anon2739324> if I run 'torify application', the connections this application makes are all forwarded to the tor network
[02:31] <anon2739324> but is that safe?
[02:31] <anon2739324> being 'application' the name of the application, obviously
[02:32] <xmlnewbi_> dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 26 package 'python-pkg-resources':  duplicate value for `Package' field
[02:33] <xmlnewbi_> I think I broke dpkg
[02:33] <anon2739324> try apt-get clean, xmlnewbi
[02:33] <anon2739324> then apt-get update
[02:34] <ActionParsnip> xmlnewbi_: wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[02:35] <anon2739324> anyone here actually uses tor by means other than the bundle?
[02:38] <kunji> How do I reinstall network-manager properly?
[02:39] <anon2739324> what do you mean, kunji? Why not aptitude reinstall network-manager?
[02:40] <kunji> anon2739324: Hmm, that's what I thought, but it doesn't seem to start on boot after that, and there doesn't seem to be a way to right click -> add to panel for the applet anymore these days.  ps ax doesn't show it running.
[02:41] <anon2739324> maybe there is some sort of configuration problem
[02:41] <anon2739324> I would try aptitude purge network-manager; aptitude install network-manager
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> anon2739324: I suggets you advise apt-get, it handles multiarch better
[02:42] <ActionParsnip> anon2739324: its also in a default install, unlike aptitude
[02:42] <WYZ4RD> Anyone know why tomcat would stop working after exiting a root ssh session?
[02:43] <anon2739324> ActionParsnip, yeah, I'm still getting used to it...
[02:43] <kunji> Don't worry ActionParsnip, I always use apt-get ^_^, and I also feel really stupid right now, I had assumed the install completed fine before... lol, it didn't
[02:43] <anon2739324> Just got to Ubuntu, after some years of Debian
[02:43] <SolarisBoy> WYZ4RD: did you start it in the foreground? or attached as a background job without nohupping it? how did you start it?
[02:43] <anon2739324> anyway, why does it apt-get and not aptitude?
[02:43] <anon2739324> does it use*
[02:43] <illidari> I am new to linux c++ projects and im use to having a .sln file to open all the files in a project, how is this done in ubuntu/linux ? is there a way to view all files in a program at once of a downloaded source code?
[02:44] <ActionParsnip> kunji: if you get web access in liveCD, you can run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install network-manager     then copy the deb files from /var/cache/apt/archives   to the internal partition, then install those after rebooting to the installed OS
[02:44] <SolarisBoy> illidari: vi/vim and a bunch of other text editors let you do things like that
[02:44] <kunji> anon2739324: I think because aptitude can have problems if you install the same package for 32 and 64 bit or something.
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> anon2739324: multiarch is handled in apt-get, its not in aptitude yet and people using 64bit OS may want 32bit apps (like skype)
[02:45] <SolarisBoy> anon2739324: vim *.h would open the header files in multiple buffers that you could browse- you could change the behaviour of that with command line opts and other plugins
[02:45] <WYZ4RD> SolarisBoy it enabled when I installed LibrePlan on it. I know little of Tomcat. I usually work in PHP
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> !aptitude
[02:45] <kunji> ActionParsnip: It's less complicated than that I think, I'll just setup /etc/networking/interfaces temporarily
[02:45] <illidari> SolarisBoy: Do i have to set up the project, or can the editor auto open it up
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> kunji: that can work
[02:45] <SolarisBoy> WYZ4RD: i dont think it matters if your concern is opning the source - just use a text editor of choice
[02:45] <ActionParsnip> kunji: I use apt-fast personally :)
[02:46] <oitofelix> Hello.  I'm using lubuntu 12.10 and I installed Tunapie 2 to listen to audio streams.  But unfortunately when I run Tunapie it just hangs when downloading the radio list.  Is there anyone successfully running Tunapie 2 right now?
[02:46] <SolarisBoy> not sure what you mean by 'project' if you mean some source code in a folder - yes editor can open it
[02:46] <anon2739324> didn't know about the multiarch problems... Gotta read more about that. Thanks.
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> Anand: its like windows can run 32bit apps in 64bit Windows
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> anon2739324: ^
[02:46] <ActionParsnip> Anand: wrong target, sorry
[02:47] <ActionParsnip> oitofelix: do other apps play audio streams ok?
[02:47] <WYZ4RD> I don't know what the nohupping means. I'll research that. I've seen it several times.
[02:47] <illidari> SolarisBoy: i mean most programs or games have like 10+  .c / .cpp files that all must be built together , .sln in windows opened them all up at once in visual studio
[02:47] <anon2739324> but what 32 bit packages are available in the repos?
[02:47] <SolarisBoy> WYZ4RD: nohup - means dont send the HUP signal to processes attached to your session when you exit the session
[02:47] <anon2739324> are there many?
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> SolarisBoy: it sets the PPID as 1 :)
[02:48] <SolarisBoy> AFAIK the tomcat start scripts do a good job of daemonizing the process so you don't need to worry about it - which is why i asked how did you start tomcat?
[02:48] <anon2739324> I mean, I have been using aptitude for several months, and never had any issue with multiarch... Suppose there are few 32 bit packages, then
[02:48] <oitofelix> ActionParsnip: Audacious plays mms.
[02:48] <SolarisBoy> ActionParsnip: ouch
[02:48] <SolarisBoy> thats not good
[02:48] <ActionParsnip> anon2739324: all are both 32bit and 64bit in the repos, but skpe 64bit is really 32bit skype but with a tonne of 32bit packages to make it work
[02:49] <xmlnewbi_> Get:1 Changelog for libaccountsservice0 (http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/a/accountsservice/accountsservice_0.6.15-2ubuntu9.4/changelog) [15.5 kB]
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> SolarisBoy: it works (its what happened on an ESX box i did it on, not sure in ubuntu)
[02:49] <SolarisBoy> i've seen that happen with apache and other processes that spawn off and get hung on kernel resources - parent dies and children go under the init process unkillable - ActionParsnip like that?
[02:49] <keber> tere
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> SolarisBoy: its not too bad, killing PID 1 will kill the OS :)
[02:49] <SolarisBoy> lol yea
[02:49] <SolarisBoy> i remember this guy did that on his first day at my job - killed init
[02:49] <xmlnewbi_> I keep running into this damn error.          It breaks my terminal displays all those error log crap
[02:49] <ActionParsnip> SolarisBoy: pretty much, needs a reboot if it goes bad after taht
[02:49] <SolarisBoy> was cute
[02:49] <SolarisBoy> ActionParsnip: definately
[02:50] <xmlnewbi_> got there error doing sudo ./fixpackage
[02:50] <anon2739324> this will sound incredibly newbish, but how do you send a private message on IRC?
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> SolarisBoy: there could be a dummy process spawned by init which can hold orphaned process hands :)
[02:50] <SolarisBoy> ActionParsnip: that would actually work right?
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> anon2739324: you sent me one
[02:50] <kunji> ... this crashing of my GUI everytime I run sudo service networking restart is getting really obnoxious, I should probably file a bug report... this is basically a brand new 12.10 install.
[02:50] <SolarisBoy> they just need parents lol
[02:50] <te> anon2739324: /msg anon2739324 Hello?
[02:50] <ActionParsnip> SolarisBoy: you'd have to jig a lot of the OS but its a little better imho
[02:51] <SolarisBoy> ActionParsnip: definately
[02:51] <anon2739324> but can't you send and see what you sent?
[02:51] <anon2739324> I mean, with /msg the message doesn't appear
[02:51] <anon2739324> It's weird
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> anon2739324: depends on the  client
[02:51] <nunoh> quick question if I may: is there any configuration setting I can use so that folders whose filename stars with an underscore comes first when using the ls and on nautilus too?
[02:51] <xmlnewbi_> reboot
[02:51] <ActionParsnip> anon2739324: pidgin, andchat and irssi all highlight channels with activity
[02:53] <SolarisBoy> figured out to install ubuntu-desktop on the server to get the ui running as it was before, only thing now is box is booting with no network - i suspect that these iscsi drives i have attached for media need to mounted net_dev maybe? once i get in and boot up after it complains about no network - restart of networking brings up the nic fine
[02:53] <SolarisBoy> the only hole in that plan is that the iscsi vols do actually exist without networking available?
[02:54] <root___> hello
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> SolarisBoy: you could add the mount of the iscsi in /etc/rc.local   so the network has had time to come up
[02:54] <SolarisBoy> !root
[02:54] <ActionParsnip> !rootirc | root___
[02:54] <jonnyro> Is there a command line program in ubuntu to capture a frame from a webcam?
[02:55] <sirmxe> this is mcnougally
[02:55] <oitofelix> Has anyone experienced Tunapie hungup on downloading audio station list?
[02:55] <anon2739324> on irssi, what is an 'Act'? How do I switch between Acts?
[02:55] <SolarisBoy> ActionParsnip: true - for some reason i kind of hate that though - but ill try the netdev first and if not ill go with that thanks
[02:55] <ActionParsnip> anon2739324: alt + number
[02:55] <ch1n4m4n> jonnyro that would be handy wouldn't it ;)
[02:55] <cmj141> question, I downloaded Eclipse SDK bundle from the net and extracted it to my home folder. How do i create an icon launcher in Slingshot?
[02:55] <xmlnewbi_> is there a way to do a system restore over SSH?
[02:55] <sirmxe> o'doyle rules
[02:55] <jonnyro> ch1n4m4n: looks like there is a program called fswebcam
[02:56] <jonnyro> or fxwebcam
[02:56] <xmlnewbi_> I gues reinstall is out of the question without phsyical access to the server
[02:56] <Doyle> You know it
[02:56] <ch1n4m4n> sweet
[02:56] <SolarisBoy> xmlnewbi_: its not really impossible but in a standard setup without other provisions - no
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> !info uvccapture
[02:57] <SolarisBoy> xmlnewbi_: i've seen people put a fancy initramfs as a grub option and boot into it allowing them access to disks with no OS running on them, from there you can debootstrap/chroot all you want
[02:57] <ActionParsnip> ch1n4m4n: then run: uvccapture -d/dev/video0 -x640 -y480 -t10 -owebcam.jpg -q95
[02:57] <SolarisBoy> but that would probably be considered complex and not standard
[02:58] <xmlnewbi_> I broke something and cant seel to install anything without a wierd crash error. and  sudo ./fixpackage is returning the same error
[02:58] <MasterELiTe> !news
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> xmlnewbi_: is it an issue with the status file?
[02:58] <root___> !news
[02:58] <SolarisBoy> hmm not sure about fixpackage - what is the weird crash error? pastebin if multi line
[02:58] <SolarisBoy> xmlnewbi_: ^
[02:58] <xmlnewbi_> status file?
[02:58] <ActionParsnip> SolarisBoy: its my script which is the list of commands on the 'synaptic package fix' page
[02:58] <root___> exit
[02:59] <ch1n4m4n> see that jonnyro?
[02:59] <SolarisBoy> ActionParsnip: ahh nice
[02:59] <xmlnewbi_> i lists this page in the error and kills my command prompt. http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/a/accountsservice/accountsservice_0.6.15-2ubuntu9.4/changelog
[02:59] <root___> quit
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> xmlnewbi_: what is the output of:  sudo apt-get update; lsb_release -a    please use a pastebin to hold the text
[02:59] <xmlnewbi_> I have to reboot the server to fix my terminal
[02:59] <ActionParsnip> root_: try   /quit
[03:00] <MasterELiTe> !list
[03:00] <MasterELiTe> ! f y
[03:00] <m60> lol : <XMLnewbi> "Input is not a pipe"
[03:00] <xmlnewbi_> http://pastebin.com/WMdVfZhK
[03:01] <xmlnewbi_> my results
[03:01] <MasterELiTe> !bot
[03:01] <hero616> My computer is located in local network, is it possible to use it as a Krfb remote control server?
[03:01] <k1l_> MasterELiTe: please keep this channel clean for the ubuntu support. thank you
[03:01] <ActionParsnip> xmlnewbi_: mixing debain sources with ubuntu will make a big mess
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> xmlnewbi_: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com AED4B06F473041FA
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> xmlnewbi_: will import the key you missed.
[03:02] <ActionParsnip> xmlnewbi_: the fact you have mixed the sources is more than likely why you are getting issues
[03:03] <ActionParsnip> xmlnewbi_: I suggest you remove the Debian sources
[03:03] <greenwhale> what do you guys think about Debian's policy on packages updates? Just I think that there is no reason not to use up-to-date packages?
[03:04] <rootbrian> alright, I added all of the resolutions supported by my monitor, including refresh rates (had to go into windows to test it all, noted it down), but they're under "CRT2" as what xrandr says. How in the world do I get them all under "CRT1"?
[03:04] <ActionParsnip> greenwhale: that is offtopic here
[03:04] <k1l_> !ot | greenwhale
[03:04] <xmlnewbi_> I dont understand what would the be Debian sources,             This was an install from an official VPS provider, and All I did was clunk my way though http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-ubuntu-12.04-lts-apache2-bind-dovecot-ispconfig-3
[03:04] <greenwhale> oh, ok
[03:04] <greenwhale> sry
[03:05] <kunji> Hmm, can someone answer this for me, if I run an OpenVPN server on my network not in the gateway's place on the network, then would I actually need to use a bridge at all for the network resources to be accessible?  I'm thinking I wouldn't need to, but I'm not entirely sure, all the install guides seem to assume you're using the server it's on as your gateway device.
[03:05] <SolarisBoy> kunji: you may want to try in #networking too
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> xmlnewbi_: then they have caused you an issue, you have a frankenstein OS which nobody will want to touch
[03:06] <krz> whats a good light weight system monitor?
[03:06] <kunji> SolarisBoy: Hmm, probably, can't hurt to try ^_^
[03:06] <MasterELiTe> !list
[03:06] <ActionParsnip> xmlnewbi_: I recommend you contact the provider
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[03:06] <FloodBot1> MasterELiTe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:07] <kunji> krz: I like Conky
[03:07] <rootbrian> What's up with that master elite person
[03:08] <rootbrian> aside from that, here's the paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/1515636/
[03:08] <rootbrian> explains the issue i'm having and wondering why I can't get it shoved under CRT1
[03:08] <rootbrian> my graphics card does NOT have a second VGA port.
[03:09] <rootbrian> Nor do I have a second monitor attached.
[03:09] <greenwhale> anyone here uses IRC over tor? how?
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> greenwhale: never had to, i'm not that paranoid
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> !tor
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[03:10] <FloodBot1> MasterELiTe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:10] <bazhang> greenwhale, with sasl ask in #freenode
[03:10] <ActionParsnip> thanks k1l
[03:10] <greenwhale> bazhang: what is sasl?
[03:10] <rootbrian> Darn troll. Shouts to k1l.
[03:11] <Soe1en> hey people, all of the sudden I only have read-only rights on my partition, what is going on?
[03:11] <bazhang> greenwhale, ask in #freenode
[03:11]  * rootbrian tips hat to k1l
[03:11] <greenwhale> oh, ok
[03:11] <Soe1en> I can't write files anymore
[03:11] <Soe1en> not even as a root
[03:11] <ActionParsnip> Soe1en: sudo mount -o rw,remount /mount/point
[03:11] <te> Soe1en: df |pastebinit
[03:12] <ActionParsnip> te: df -h    is a bit more readable :)
[03:12] <te> ok
[03:12] <frustrated> could anyone let me know how to make youtube videos less stuttery on linux? if i download them as a .flv file, they work fine in vlc or mplayer.
[03:13] <ActionParsnip> frustrated: try minitube
[03:13] <rootbrian> Soe1en if you still can't mount it, then backup everything on it using root, then recreate the partition using a live CD or USB.
[03:13] <te> frustrated: buy more bandwidth
[03:13] <Soe1en> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/sKvXpixU
[03:13] <Soe1en> te:
[03:13] <rootbrian> frustraited: if it's not bandwidth, it might be xorg conflicting.
[03:13] <Soe1en> rootbrian: you mean reinstall ubuntu?
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> frustrated: tried a different browser?
[03:14] <rootbrian> Soe1en: Yes, but only if you exhausted everything
[03:14] <frustrated> yes i have ActionParsnip
[03:14] <Soe1en> shit.
[03:14] <xangua> frustrated: te flash sucks in linux in general, nothing you can do about it
[03:14] <xangua> !language | Soe1en
[03:14] <te> Soe1en: /mount/point was hypothetical
[03:14] <ActionParsnip> Soe1en: oh come on...seriously? Did you even read the command
[03:14] <rootbrian> Soe1en: /mount/point which basically means /media/disk
[03:15] <rootbrian> or a volume name
[03:15] <te> rootbrian: mount point, not volume name
[03:15] <rootbrian> Soe1en: disk can be substituted for anything
[03:15] <rootbrian> te: oops
[03:15] <te> rootbrian: But I'm sure he gets the point
[03:15] <Soe1en> rootbrian: how do I find out where my mount point is
[03:16] <te> Soe1en: mount
[03:16] <rootbrian> so nobody can possibly help me with that issue about xrandr not adding the modes to CRT1.
[03:16] <ActionParsnip> Soe1en: is it the system file system you are having issue with, or is it the /home directory, or some other place?
[03:16] <rootbrian> I wanted to use the highest possible mode supported, 1080p
[03:17] <frustrated> ActionParsnip: what can i do for other flash video
[03:17] <lolmaniac> hello everyone, I am having some partition issues and issues with grub not recognizing the partitions and booting, it says no operating system, but when I run a live CD i can see the partitions, I even made them active, any advice?
[03:17] <Soe1en> ActionParsnip: I dont know
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> frustrated: does chrome work ok?
[03:17] <Soe1en> rootbrian: so it's /dev/mapper/sil_bhadbgcdahff1 I guess
[03:17] <ActionParsnip> Soe1en: so how do you know there is an issue?>
[03:17] <frustrated> chrome works great for everything except flash video, ActionParsnip
[03:17] <Soe1en> ActionParsnip: it's the 4th time this is happening, and it is comming every day now
[03:18] <lolmaniac> but i still cannot boot or open grub
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> Soe1en: and where can you not write to?
[03:18] <lolmaniac> right now I'm cloning the disk
[03:18] <te> lolmaniac: Unless we have specific information about your partitions and your grub configuration, we wouldn't be able to give any advise.
[03:18] <rootbrian> frustrated: Enable the HTML5 beta maybe? http://www.youtube.com/testtube
[03:18] <reaga> How much RAM does ubuntu use up
[03:18] <lolmaniac> what would I need to provide?
[03:18] <reaga> if i just install it and its idle
[03:18] <frustrated> rootbrian: extremely glitchy
[03:18] <lolmaniac> that boot info script?
[03:18] <ActionParsnip> reaga: about 300Mb here, ish
[03:19] <Soe1en> ActionParsnip: at /dev/mapper/sil_bhadbgcdahff1
[03:19] <reaga> Nice.
[03:19] <Soe1en> it's a softraid
[03:19] <rootbrian> frustrated: well, you could just paste links into VLC
[03:19] <lolmaniac> my work will not let me go home until I can get this working
[03:19] <lolmaniac> ill be here all night possibly
[03:19] <lolmaniac> so
[03:20] <frustrated> root brian, is there a way to get vlc to automatically play all flash video
[03:20] <frustrated> rootbrian, is there a way to get vlc to automatically play all flash video
[03:20] <lolmaniac> ill chat you guys who are talking to me when I can get you the boot info results after the clone is complete
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> frustrated: isn't there mozilla-vlc or somesuch
[03:20] <lolmaniac> ty
[03:20] <rootbrian> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1515636/ output from xrandr, showing CRT2 with all the new modes added properly, not added to CRT1 which I was hoping for. I wonder if I missed any commands adding it.
[03:20] <ActionParsnip> frustrated: I know some folks use vlc for flash
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> Soe1en: yes but you don't write to that, you write to that when it is mounted
[03:21] <ActionParsnip> Soe1en: does that hold your OS? Do you boot to the raid for your OS?
[03:21] <rootbrian> frustrated: Some videos are flash only.
[03:21] <frustrated> thanks ActionParsnip: you wouldn't happen to know how to use vlc for flash on google chrome as well, would you?
[03:21] <rootbrian> frustrated: and there isn't much you can do about it either.
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> frustrated: no idea, I only install chrome and have zero issues, pepper flash is great
[03:22] <Soe1en> ActionParsnip: I think so, please consider that I am a beginner
[03:22] <josif>  I'm running dual boot win7 and Ubuntu 12.10. Why can't I see my C: from the ubuntu command line when I cd into the folder?
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> Soe1en: then run:  sudo mount -o remount,rw /
[03:22] <xmlnewbi_> ahh, ActionParsnip         is it just all the "Hit http://backports.debian.org squeeze-backports/contrib Sources/DiffIndex" backports that were out of place in  http://pastebin.com/WMdVfZhK       I think I remember adding those my bad, there a way to get rid of them?
[03:22] <ActionParsnip> josif: did you install using Wubi?
[03:23] <josif> Ubuntu?
[03:23] <josif> just a live iso from a flash drive
[03:23] <rootbrian> josif: is it already mounted?
[03:23] <ActionParsnip> josif: oh, so its running live. not installed?
[03:24] <josif> no i already have it installed and it's not mounted but I can't find the dev/sdx so I can't mount it
[03:24] <Soe1en> ActionParsnip: I guess the easiest thing would be just to make a gigantic backup and reinstall ubuntu
[03:24] <ActionParsnip> Soe1en: why do you not already have a backup?
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> josif: run:  sudo parted -l
[03:25] <ActionParsnip> josif: it will show the partitions
[03:25] <Soe1en> ActionParsnip: I do make backups every day but only from some very important directories, I would like to have another one from the whole disk
[03:26] <ActionParsnip> Soe1en: good :)
[03:27] <josif> ActionParsnip: I did and I see the size and file system and all that but how do mount it from there?
[03:27] <xmlnewbi_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:27] <Soe1en> ActionParsnip: well that means lots of reconfiguring I guess : (
[03:30] <Soe1en> ActionParsnip: what is /proc? it has like 20 gb of content in it, uh 40 gb, 50
[03:30] <Soe1en> holy cow 200 gb?
[03:31] <Soe1en> ActionParsnip: is there a possibility it went to read-only because my harddisk is full?
[03:31] <ActionParsnip> Soe1en: doesn't look full. what level of raid are you using?
[03:32] <Soe1en> ActionParsnip: RAID 1, 1gb each one
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> Soe1en: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/11/linux-proc-file-system/
[03:32] <ActionParsnip> Soe1en: not 1Tb ?
[03:33] <Soe1en> ActionParsnip: ups, 1Tb, and proc is now over 1tb, infact 1,16
[03:33] <Abhijit> Good morning. I have triple boot suse,fedora and lubuntu. my lubuntu suddenly disapper from grub (grub owned by suse). Even os-prober do not show lubuntu. but I can successfully chroot to lubuntu. This is strange.
[03:33] <Abhijit> help me please!
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> Soe1en: its an informational folder really, the link explains it well
[03:34] <ActionParsnip> Abhijit: if you run:  sudo update-grub   from the chroot, is it added
[03:35] <Abhijit> ActionParsnip, that will make grub owned by lubuntu that what i do not what.
[03:35] <Abhijit> want*
[03:35] <Abhijit> ActionParsnip, wait. after chrooting now osprober is detecting the lubuntu.
[03:35] <ActionParsnip> Abhijit: no, that wil update grub, it happens every time lubuntu installs a new kernel
[03:35] <Abhijit> ok
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> Abhijit: so no, it won't make it owned by lubuntu whatever that means)
[03:36] <Abhijit> ok
[03:36] <ActionParsnip> Abhijit: all the OSes will add to the grub config, there is no owning OS
[03:36] <Abhijit> ActionParsnip, when suse own grub it applies its own themes and settings. when i do update-grub from lubunt it applies its own theme and settings. that is owning.
[03:37] <ActionParsnip> Abhijit: thats theming, nothing more
[03:38] <Abhijit> ActionParsnip, so i want suse themes and settings and fonts. not the lubuntu
[03:39] <Soe1en> ActionParsnip: thanks for your help, I think I go to sleep now, have a nice day in advance!
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> Abhijit: the update-grub happens every time lubuntu installs a new kernel
[03:40] <Abhijit> ActionParsnip, ok
[03:40] <ActionParsnip> Abhijit: if you run it, it will possibly add the lubuntu boot to the grub config. If the kernels start over lapping in version then you are going to have issues
[03:41] <Abhijit> ActionParsnip, yeah
[03:45] <xmlnewbi_> so I loaded debian.org squeeze-backports onto ubuntu 12.04 server I think im skrewed
[03:46] <bazhang> xmlnewbi_, reinstall
[03:46] <Abhijit> :-p
[03:54] <lauratika> i have a weird issue... all my music from my library sounds way lower at max volume than any play on websites... cant find the issue. any ideas where to look?
[03:55] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: have you tried different media players?
[03:56] <lauratika> yes rythmbox and clementine
[03:56] <lauratika> same issue
[03:56] <mladoux> I would also check the encoded quality of the music on another computer to see if the issue persists if at all possible. Preferably one running a different OS.
[03:56] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: if you make another user, is it the same there?
[03:56] <mladoux> just to avoid any OS specific stuff.
[03:57] <lauratika> ActionParsnip: in the other user account the same
[03:57] <lauratika> i notice in sound settings in panel it has more than 100 %
[03:58] <bentinata> Hello.
[03:59] <Abhijit> !sound | lauratika
[03:59] <utf> how do I request help?
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    waity 10 seconds then try sound stuff
[03:59] <ActionParsnip> utf: just ask
[03:59] <utf> well I have a bit of a doozy
[03:59] <alexhairyman> ALSA WOOT WOOT
[04:00] <utf> and I'm very amateur so bear with me
[04:00] <utf> basically, I installed 12.10 on my laptop after roughly 10 attempts
[04:00] <utf> after installation and booting up, my mouse and keyboard just randomly stop working
[04:01] <lauratika> ActionParsnip: how do i restart sound afetr the comand?
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> utf: does the system have a make and model?
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: it self-starts
[04:01] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: hence the commands on the same line, so the settings get deleted before it has chance to start and lock the data ;)
[04:01] <utf> MSI GT780DXR
[04:01] <thoonai> same happens to me too, every time I want to install ubuntu -.-
[04:01] <[snake]> Hello, I'm compiling some source code and I think it wants gtk+ 2.0. can I fix this? output of ./configure: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1515712/
[04:02] <lauratika> ActionParsnip: does seems bit better
[04:02] <utf> I have to restart every time it happens
[04:02] <lauratika> but still low volum+
[04:02] <lauratika> ActionParsnip:do you know why i have more than 100 volum under the speaker settings??
[04:03] <utf> so i tried to install 12.04 but it won't even load
[04:03] <[snake]> all of gtk2 in the repository seems to be examples or "engines"
[04:03] <utf> it's like my laptop just rejects ubuntu
[04:04] <ActionParsnip> lauratika: sound settings has a slider that goes past 100%
[04:04] <lauratika> why?
[04:05] <utf> any ideas?
[04:05] <thoonai> utf: im sorry but no
[04:05] <mladoux> [snake], have you installed the dev libraries of gtk2? not just the binaries.
[04:05] <utf> really?
[04:06] <utf> i've been trying for two days to get this working and i don't have any other OS to work with here
[04:06] <mladoux> utf, no worries. It can be fixed, a second os just makes things simpler.
[04:06] <utf> i answered parsnip but i haven't gotten a response as of yet
[04:06] <thoonai> I have the bad feeling that these distros are getting worse
[04:07] <[snake]> mladoux, I can't seem to find and dev files :(
[04:07] <lauratika> and then why not stays up above 100... when i down the volume with the keyboard media button it lowers to 100 again.
[04:07] <[snake]> err packages
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> utf: seems to use optimus, very headache inducing
[04:07] <thoonai> utf: list your hardware, check for compatibility, try  32 bit
[04:07] <ActionParsnip> utf: look into bumblebee. you'll have a lot of issues
[04:07] <mladoux> usually it'll be the same as the packages with -dev added to the end of the package name.
[04:08] <utf> like I said, I'm amateur
[04:08] <utf> no clue what that is
[04:08] <acu__> I'm trying to install my Epson WF-7010 printer and am getting this error message "[FAIL] Reloading Common Unix Printing System: cupsd failed!I need your help
[04:08] <[snake]> mladoux, I am using tab completion after gtk2 with nothing with a -dev
[04:08] <thoonai> utf: nvidia is an very unpleasant partner to linux
[04:08] <mladoux> just add dev after
[04:09] <utf> a friend of mine told me linux would be pretty simple but somehow i've ended up making my laptop useless
[04:09] <kunji> utf: how did you pull that off :P
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> utf: well you have optimus, its not very easy to tame but is possible
[04:09] <[snake]> mladoux, the package gtk2-dev doesn't show up is what I mean. that's ok, I think I found it on the ubuntu repository sites from an older ubuntu version.
[04:09] <ActionParsnip> utf: if you only had one GPU its drastically easiee
[04:09] <mladoux> Try installing libgtk2.0-dev, libpango1.0-dev, libcairo2-dev and libxml2-dev.
[04:09] <utf> so should I just give up on installing ubuntu?
[04:10] <mladoux> I think that's the libs you need
[04:10] <[snake]> mladoux, oh, lib. thanks!
[04:10] <utf> i really want it but this and the forums are my only real lifeline unless i go to a repair shop
[04:10] <thoonai> somebody an idea, why 12.04 server 32 bit is failing to install on my futro s400?
[04:10] <mladoux> utf, you can do whatever you want, if you want to use ubuntu, and have issues, we'll try to help you.
[04:11] <utf> well, i tried installing 12.04 per a friend's advice to fix the keyboard and mouse stuff, no luck
[04:11] <utf> didn't even boot toe install disc
[04:11] <utf> the*
[04:11] <thoonai> utf: which model?
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> utf: http://bumblebee-project.org/install.html
[04:11] <utf> so now I'm downloading the 64 version of 12.04
[04:11] <ActionParsnip> utf: try booting the OS with the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[04:11] <mladoux> some machines have a harder time than others. It would help if we knew what hardware you are using.
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> utf: if possible, disable one of the GPUs in BIOS
[04:12] <utf> model of my laptop? MSI GT780DXR
[04:12] <ActionParsnip> thoonai: sandy bridge intel i7 with some mobile nvidia gpu too
[04:12] <mladoux> I see someone else is trying to help you, i'm going to butt out, to avoid confusion.
[04:12] <sh3bang> I have an nVidia sound card and my sound is way to low - pulseaudio any help please?
[04:12] <utf> how do i go about disabling a gpu?
[04:13] <thoonai> ActionParsnip: thanks
[04:13] <thoonai> somebody an idea, why 12.04 server 32 bit is failing to install on my futro s400?
[04:13] <thoonai> its like Hardware and os getting worse
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> thoonai: what happens when you start the instll?
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> utf: look around in the BIOS
[04:14] <thoonai> ActionParsnip: it works until it comes to grub
[04:14] <ActionParsnip> thoonai: are you using anything weird like uefi, raid, lvm etc?
[04:14] <utf> lol how do i look around in the bios, device manager?
[04:14] <thoonai> ActionParsnip: and the whole install process lags like an 100Mhz machine
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> utf: no, when the system starts to boot, read the screen. You will see an option to enter setup
[04:15] <utf> oh that
[04:15] <thoonai> utf: del, f2 or f12 normally
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> thoonai: does grub install ok?
[04:15] <thoonai> ActionParsnip: no
[04:15] <utf> well quick update, just booted into 12.10 and i got a message saying system program problem detected
[04:15] <ActionParsnip> thoonai: are you using anything weird like uefi, raid, lvm etc?
[04:16] <thoonai> after 2 hours waiting, I installed debian stable ^^ though i want ubuntu ;)
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> utf: if you can get web access, use the bumblebee guide I gave as well as get full updates
[04:16] <utf> then when I try to report it it says ubuntu has experienced an internal error
[04:16] <thoonai> ActionParsnip: no, it should run vdr in the end
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> utf: just get updated and install bumblebee
[04:16] <utf> so my version of 12.10 is all kinds of f'd up
[04:16] <ActionParsnip> utf: is it fully updated
[04:17] <utf> install bumble to my current 12.10?
[04:17] <thoonai> utf: try 11.04
[04:17] <utf> i'm not sure if it's fullly updated
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> thoonai: natty is eol
[04:17] <ActionParsnip> utf: I'd check that first before anything
[04:17] <utf> where can i check?
[04:17] <thoonai> ActionParsnip: I know, but I don't get crashing messages every 15 Minutes
[04:17] <utf> i had a prompt to update stuff once but my mouse and keyboard failed
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> thoonai: yes but there are zero updates and zero support anywhere for it...
[04:18] <thoonai> utf: do you have an usb keyboard ?
[04:18] <utf> no it's just my laptop keyboard
[04:18] <ActionParsnip> utf: press CTRL+ALT+F1 and log in there, then run:   sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:19] <ActionParsnip> utf: you can also install bumblebee there
[04:19] <thoonai> ActionParsnip: *shrugs* I know, but its depressing if you install 12.04 or 12.10 on an thinkpad x61s (most compatible computer ever) and its conmplaining every half hour that a program crashed
[04:19]  * ActionParsnip hates optimus with a burning firey passion
[04:19] <thoonai> utf: nah I meant for repairing issues
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> thoonai: tried a different desktop?
[04:20] <ActionParsnip> thoonai: ideally one not using Compiz
[04:20] <utf> ok i'm running the update command you gave me action
[04:20] <thoonai> ActionParsnip: yes, I'm so sad that the stability of 11.04 is gone, I'm using gnome-shell
[04:20] <thoonai> ActionParsnip: does gnome-shell uses compiz?
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> thoonai: I don't believe so
[04:21] <utf> so far so good
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> thoonai: not 100% tbh
[04:21] <utf> so what would bumblee do for me?
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> thoonai: wikipedia says its mutter
[04:21] <ActionParsnip> utf: its supports your dual video chip fiasco
[04:23] <utf> ubuntu is wonky with dual video chips?
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> utf: get fully updated first. You may also want to run:   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:23] <thoonai> ActionParsnip: so the s400 hardware is in here: http://pastebin.com/Fh3cAxAp
[04:23] <kunji> thoonai: Hmm, certain hardware just like to complain in my case.  My s10-3t always has some piece of GUI crashing, and my little Foxconn tends to as well, but my Sony is pretty much crashless, as are all my desktops.
[04:23] <kunji> *likes
[04:23] <utf> oki, i'm at 59 percent with the current upgrades
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> utf: yes, nvidia stated they would not be supporting it outside windows
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> utf: but they did later join the linux foundation
[04:23] <utf> those bastards
[04:23] <thoonai> ActionParsnip: dafuq?
[04:23] <ActionParsnip> utf: bumblebee is a project trying to get it supported
[04:24] <utf> so after this is done you said i should run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[04:24] <thoonai> ActionParsnip: this is another proof of windiocrazy
[04:24] <ActionParsnip> thoonai: companies can chose whom they support
[04:25] <thoonai> kunji: thinkpads should run as they are since theyre the best supported linux platform
[04:25] <ActionParsnip> thoonai: which line am I lookng at in the pastebin please?
[04:25] <kunji> thoonai: I've actually never heard that before from anyone.
[04:26] <thoonai> ActionParsnip: true, but developing open source source driver is still better ^^ as amd does (as far as I know)
[04:26] <thoonai> ActionParsnip: nah thats lspci and lscpu
[04:26] <kunji> thoonai: Also are you counting System76 at all?
[04:26] <ActionParsnip> thoonai: yes, what are you trying to show me with it?
[04:26] <thoonai> ActionParsnip: because I coulndt see which hardware is blocking here
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> thoonai: also, dell will preinstall ubuntu if you want
[04:27] <utf> this is slow lol
[04:27] <thoonai> kunji: great ^^
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> utf: you have 3 months worth of updates
[04:27] <thoonai> ActionParsnip: my mother is using a dell and im not convinced
[04:27] <ActionParsnip> utf: its like clean installing XP and having to run updates
[04:27] <kunji> Though Dell does still pass on the window's license costs so you might as well take windows as well
[04:28] <utf> makes sense
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> thoonai: my Dell Lat D420 works 100% out of the box :)
[04:28] <thoonai> kunji: this sucks
[04:28] <utf> remind me of that second command you suggested
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> utf: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:28] <thoonai> ActionParsnip: my x61s too ^^ with 11.04 as all my other boxes
[04:28] <thoonai> ActionParsnip: since I got to 11.10 I just had to repair  everything
[04:29] <kunji> Except for XP updates all the reboots will take you a month...
[04:29] <utf> thanksya
[04:29] <thoonai> ActionParsnip: back to topic: I want ubuntu running on my s400 ^^
[04:29] <thoonai> utf: I hope we could help you :)
[04:30] <utf> me too, i appreciate you guys helping me
[04:30] <utf> like i said I've been at this for the better part of two days lol
[04:31] <utf> i have a channel to run so it makes it doubly frustrating
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> utf: if its no good after the update, try bumblebee
[04:32] <thoonai> kunji: sadly these notebooks all have a glosy display and no clit mouse
[04:32] <ActionParsnip> thoonai: HA!
[04:32] <thoonai> ActionParsnip: o.o?
[04:32] <utf> uh-oh... after the updates finished i have a black screen
[04:32] <kunji> thoonai: I happen to hate those mice...
[04:32] <utf> pressed enter and now i have a command line
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> thoonai: clit mouse?    not nipple mouse?
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> utf: ok, use the bumblebee guide
[04:33] <utf> i'm going to install the second command you suggested
[04:33] <thoonai> ActionParsnip: I dont know how this thing really is named, everyone here just say clit mouse -.-
[04:33] <kunji> ActionParsnip: they didn't start including 2 did they?
[04:34] <alexhairyman> thoonai clit mouse? yum
[04:34] <utf> after this i'll see if it helps and if not i'll go ahead with bumble
[04:34] <thoonai> alexhairyman: ok its called 'pointing stick'
[04:35] <utf> what exactly is sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[04:35] <thoonai> utf: with this you can update your distro to the actual release
[04:35] <thoonai> utf: 12.04 --> 12.10
[04:36] <utf> oki, how do i exit this fullscreen terminal thing?
[04:36] <utf> distro updated finished
[04:36] <utf> updates*
[04:36] <Omen_20> Why is Appearance still so bad? It's still a major pain adding wallpapers. Such a weird oversight.
[04:36] <thoonai> alt+f7 should display you the xserver (desktop) alt + f1-6 are console line terminals
[04:38] <utf> ok, already the mouse is screwing up
[04:38] <utf> i can click things in the icon sidebar and the top bar but nothing on screen
[04:38] <utf> that's too weird
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> utf: use the CTRL+ALT+F1 prompt
[04:39] <utf> i'm there
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> utf: use the command sin the bumblebee guide for Ubuntu
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> utf: sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia
[04:40] <ActionParsnip> !info bumblebee-nvidia
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> utf: ok:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> utf: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia
[04:41] <utf> the guide told me to use sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bumblebee/stable
[04:41] <utf> do i do that one too?
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> utf: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee  names a different PPA,may be worth using instead
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> utf: which command/s have you ran?
[04:42] <utf> i already installed sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bumblebee/stable, should i go ahead and do the one you added too?
[04:42] <utf> ^
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> utf: stick with the stable if it supports your nvidia
[04:43] <utf> is there a way i can test to see if it worked?
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> utf: if you have a 6xx nvidia you will need the xswat updates
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> utf: then run the: sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia linux-headers-generic
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> utf: step 5 says reboot :)
[04:44] <utf> i don't know what nvidia i have lol
[04:44] <crond> Hi, I installed my nvidia drivers, and now my boot up screen is text and ugly.  It's obviously not a HUGE issue, but I'd kind of like the nice boot screen back.  How do I do so?
[04:46] <Guest24983> quit
[04:47] <utf> could you elaborate on "if you have a 6xx nvidia you will need the xswat updates" please?
[04:48] <kfizz> I don't have Verdana installed on my system and some websites that use Verdana as a font-family instead of a sans-serif display an ugly serif font. Is there any way I can "link" Verdana to to DejaVu Sans?
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> utf: its a 570M, so the stable PPA on its own is enough
[04:49] <ActionParsnip> utf: if it was a 670M  then it would be a 6xxx nvidia. But yours is not
[04:49] <utf> so should I run the sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia linux-headers-generic now?
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> utf: yes
[04:50] <utf> k i'll do that now
[04:51] <kunji> kfizz: you could probably just install Verdana?
[04:52] <kfizz> kunji, Yeah, I know, but this is a new machine and I'm trying to keep it as FOSS as possible.
[04:52] <utf> uhoh, said "unable to locate package bumblebee"
[04:52] <utf> as well as "unable to locate bumblebee-nvidia"
[04:52] <utf> with E: before both
[04:52] <kunji> kfizz: Oh, well then I guess that's out?  I actually have no idea what the legal status of Verdana is.
[04:54] <kfizz> kunji, according to Wikipedia, it's proprietary. It's not the end of the world if I have to install it, I just wasn't sure if there was a way to trick the system into thinking DejaVu sans was Verdana.
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> utf: did you run:  sudo apt-get update
[04:55] <utf> yeah, i typed sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia linux-headers-generic
[04:55] <kunji> I wonder what is used to verify a font, would it be possible to just pick a font you like, rename it as verdana and install it?  Or perhaps some metadata-ish characteristics need to be messed with.
[04:55] <utf> is there supposed to be two bumblebees in the command?
[04:55] <otherenergy> anyone who might be ineterested in a job?
[04:56] <ActionParsnip> utf: yes, there are 2 packages 'bumblebee' and 'bumblebee-nvidia'
[04:56] <kfizz> kunji, I think I'll try doing something like that.
[04:56] <utf> yup, that's exactly what i typed
[04:56] <utf> and i got those messages in return
[04:56] <kunji> When and what kind?  I'm not interested in a job in the slightest until around midsummer :P
[04:57] <otherenergy> a bank job
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> utf: try the x updates PPA then
[04:57] <utf> what's that?
[04:57] <otherenergy> when time still not yet
[04:57] <ActionParsnip> utf: read the bumblebee guide
[04:57] <kunji> Hmm, bank job, I'll pass I think, doesn't sound very interesting.
[04:58] <ActionParsnip> kunji: isn't that where Tyra Banks does it ;)
[04:58] <otherenergy> are u ok and ready in backtrack techniques?
[04:58] <utf> oh the x-swat commant?
[04:58] <otherenergy> if so then it sounds interesting enough
[04:59] <utf> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> otherenergy: ask in #backtrack-linux
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> utf: yes
[04:59] <kunji> ActionParsnip: She's a bit old for me
[04:59] <utf> i'll try it now
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> utf: then run:  sudo apt-get update   after, then try installing the bumblebee packages again
[04:59] <utf> why could those two files be found if i just installed them though?
[04:59] <utf> doesn't make sense to me :/
[04:59] <utf> couldn't*
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> utf: they didn't install, the packages were not found
[05:00] <utf> oh
[05:00] <zykotick9> utf: regarding you question earlier about "what is dist-upgrade", it does NOT update from version to version 12.04->12.10!  it updates every possible package on your system, like what the gui "update manager" does.  see "/msg ubottu dist-upgrade" for further details.
[05:00] <utf> so after i do this i do sudo apt-get install bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia linux-headers-generic again?
[05:00] <ActionParsnip> utf: yes
[05:01] <kevo> Hey everyone can someone tell me how Xubuntu 12.10 is and if it's even worth getting compared to other versions? The XFCE interface looks so clean but I wanted to be sure it was a pretty stable system.
[05:01] <utf> gotcha zyko, thanks
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> kevo: yes its stable
[05:01] <ActionParsnip> kevo: 12.04 is lts though.... :)
[05:02] <kevo> ActionParsnip I thought they had 12.10?
[05:02] <ActionParsnip> kevo: yes 12.10 is out, released october (10)th month, in 20(12)
[05:03] <ActionParsnip> kevo: supported 18 months, so is EOL in April 2014
[05:03] <kevo> ActionParsnip I just realised you said LTS sorry about that. Let me ask you this how is it with the Nvidia driver problem going around and setting up?
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> kevo: not had an issue with my 6150 on Quantal.
[05:04] <utf> so after running sudo apt-get update it said some index files failed to download
[05:04] <utf> is that ok?
[05:04] <thoonai> utf: which ones?
[05:05] <utf> it said failed to fetch and the address of the disc in my cd drive
[05:05] <kevo> ActionParsnip I have a GTX 670 and I heard it was a pain in the butt to install.
[05:05] <utf> think i just answered my own question lol
[05:06] <thoonai> utf: ^^
[05:06] <utf> but there's no disc in my cd drive... odd
[05:07] <utf> it's the cd that had 12.04 on it that failed to install
[05:07] <utf> weird
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> utf: run:  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list    add a hash to the left of the line referencing the CD as a package source and press CTRL+X, press Y, press ENTER
[05:07] <thoonai> ActionParsnip: you were daster
[05:07] <thoonai> faster ^^
[05:07] <ActionParsnip> thoonai: too much CLI
[05:07] <utf> a hash to the left of the line? huh?
[05:08] <thoonai> utf: you comment out the line with a #
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> utf: yes.... a '#'
[05:08] <utf> so before sudo?
[05:08] <thoonai> no in the file
[05:08] <utf> oh, an octothorpe
[05:08] <thoonai> nano is an editor
[05:08] <ActionParsnip> utf: no, run the command, it open a file in a CLI text editor
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> utf: you then add the hash to the text file, save the change and it will make the system not use the CD as a source for packages
[05:09] <mq521> wow is this is like twitter?
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> mq521: using hash for comments was long before twitter :)
[05:09] <mq521> yeah joking
[05:09] <ActionParsnip> mq521: was keeping it going. hence the smiley :)
[05:09] <utf> confused
[05:10] <thoonai> utf: bout?
[05:10] <utf> added a hash to make it #deb cdrom etc
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> utf: run:  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:10] <utf> i'm in the cli
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> utf: yes, now press CTRL+O, CTRL+X
[05:10] <utf> how do i know if i did it right?
[05:10] <utf> damn
[05:10] <ActionParsnip> utf: if the line now reads deb cdrom.... then its great
[05:10] <rkhshm> I have a question regarding HA ... i saw 2 tookits ; pacemaker and drdb .. any idea on these competing products?
[05:10] <utf> it reads #deb cdrom
[05:11] <rkhshm> i mean which one is better and when to use what?
[05:11] <thoonai> utf: fine, now save
[05:11] <utf> save?
[05:11] <ActionParsnip> utf: perfect now CTRL+O, CTRL+X
[05:11] <utf> ok
[05:11] <utf> that did nothing
[05:11] <utf> i have an empty command line with the cli above it
[05:12] <thoonai> yes
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> utf: fine, you just editted the file, so it DID do something
[05:12] <thoonai> do cat ;file;
[05:12] <utf> ctrl 0 did nothing
[05:12] <utf> and ctrl O
[05:12] <thoonai> ctrl o not 0
[05:12] <ActionParsnip> utf: you don't get a little message saying what it did, it's redundant. It saved the file
[05:12] <utf> Just made a new line
[05:12] <utf> ctrl o maked a new line
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> utf: it's ctrl+O not zero  it's to write the file (o)ut :)
[05:13] <utf> makes*
[05:13] <utf> i used ctrl o after i realized my mistake
[05:13] <utf> it just made a new line
[05:13] <utf> and ctrl x didn't do anything either... this is weird
[05:14] <ActionParsnip> utf: does the screen change, check the bottom of the console when you hit CTRL+X
[05:14] <utf> nothing
[05:14] <utf> ctrl o made a new line and ctrl x did zilch
[05:15] <utf> not even a blip
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> utf: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[05:15] <utf> it says
[05:15] <utf> ubuntu 12.10 /n /1
[05:16] <utf> \n \1*
[05:16] <KsM> You mean \l ?
[05:16] <utf> can i just redo the entire thing?
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> utf: ok, run:  sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old; sudo wget -O /etc/apt/sources.list https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/quantalsources.list
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> utf: all one command
[05:17] <utf> in the cli?
[05:17] <KsM> yes
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> utf: yes
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> easier
[05:17] <utf> i guess i'm still in the cli
[05:17] <thoonai> ok someone has a s400?
[05:17] <utf> i'm so confused at this point
[05:17] <utf> i still see multicolored text towards the top
[05:17] <utf> it ends with "wrote 57 lines"
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> utf: /quit
[05:19] <utf> quit does nothing
[05:19] <utf> no such file or directory
[05:20] <utf> i think i just need to redo all this cli stuff, i have no idea what happened
[05:22] <utf> i know i'm making this harder than it has to be but what do i do now? i got lost at the cdrom crap
[05:26] <utf> so...
[05:27] <utf> gonna guess the guy gave up
[05:27] <thoonai> utf: which guy?
[05:28] <thoonai> utf: just hard thinking ^^
[05:28] <utf> parsnip
[05:28] <utf> kinda left me hanging on /quit
[05:28] <utf> it wouldn't work
[05:28] <dcope> is there a working config for a multitouch macbook air trackpad?
[05:28] <utf> so i dunno what to do now
[05:29] <thoonai> ok this is the hardest case ive seen ever ^^
[05:29] <utf> after all this stuff it's over like that... i appreciate the help i got at least
[05:30] <utf> unless that /quit was his way of saying he gives up
[05:30] <thoonai> utf: dont know, but where youve been at last?
[05:31] <utf> back in the cli getting rid of the cdrom thing
[05:31] <utf> then he just stopped helping
[05:31] <thoonai> cat /path/to/file and paste it please ^^
[05:32] <kdns> Hi All. What's going on with Flash today? Every video I try to watch in firefox, it tells me I need the newest flash, but the only one I can use on their download page, is to compile from source...
[05:32] <utf> meh i give up thoon
[05:32] <kdns> Should I be waiting for an update in synaptic?
[05:32] <utf> i've been at this 2 days, this is the best help i've had and then it just ended
[05:33] <utf> just gonna set up an appointment with some tech guys tomorrow
[05:33] <utf> free help, get what you pay for i guess
[05:33] <utf> but thanks
[05:33] <thoonai> utf: i sthere an hackerspace near your place? or an linux user group?
[05:33] <utf> i have no idea
[05:33] <thoonai> utf: where do you live?
[05:34] <utf> i just googled it, yes there is one
[05:34] <thoonai> utf: there may be people working with linux ^^ and eventually some cracks ^^
[05:35] <utf> well i don't want to just show up knowing jack shit about linux lol
[05:35] <thoonai> utf: and the microsoft hotline isnt even better, though you pay for ^^ mac is even worse ^^
[05:35] <cub> does anyone know where i can download mosaic for linux?
[05:35] <utf> yeah but they don't give up mid-help either
[05:37] <thoonai> utf: *shrugs* if you want help, I try my best ^^
[05:37] <thoonai> though its 6:37am and im still awake ^^
[05:38] <Diazo> Howdy all, I was curious if anybody knew if this were a bug. When I turn the laptop and LightDM appears sometimes artifacts appear on the LightDM login screen and I have to hit enter for it to go away and log in.
[05:38] <utf> well, i could use some help installing flash player
[05:38] <utf> so far my mouse and keyboard are working fine
[05:38] <cub> flash?
[05:38] <cub> from adobe?
[05:39] <utf> yeah
[05:39] <cub> what version of ubuntu are u on
[05:39] <lorddelta> Evening.
[05:40] <cub> i seem to remember flash already being installed..
[05:40] <lorddelta> I don't suppose being in here when I'm on my windows side is heresy...
[05:40] <cub> i know i had to install java tho
[05:40] <lorddelta> :P
[05:40] <cub> windows is fine
[05:40] <utf> nope, flash isn't installed
[05:40] <utf> just installed 12.10
[05:40] <utf> and i can't figure out how to install it
[05:40] <thoonai> lorddelta: no, it isnt heresy, its an insult and my lordship will ignore thoust
[05:41] <lorddelta> I hear so much shit 'bout Shuttleworth all the time...but really is he any worse than say Gnu's leader (what'shisname)?
[05:41] <cub> tried this yet ? http://forums.adobe.com/message/4724232 utf
[05:41] <Diazo> utf, Do you know how to use the Ubuntu Software Center? Flash should be in that area.
[05:41] <lorddelta> I don't like it when people insult other people.
[05:41] <lorddelta> Because of what they do for a living.
[05:41] <lorddelta> =/
[05:41] <jacamol> greetings. please may i request some assistance in getting a working xorg.conf (12.04)
[05:41] <lorddelta> Granted I'm a loyal ubuntu-er but.
[05:41] <lorddelta> ubuntu-ist
[05:42] <thoonai> lorddelta: this belongs to #ubuntu-offtopic, huh?
[05:42] <utf> well i found this <ActionParsnip> utf: ok, run:  sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old; sudo wget -O /etc/apt/sources.list https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/quantalsources.list
[05:42] <utf> oops
[05:42] <utf> hold on
[05:42] <lorddelta> thoonai: perhaps. Is there a great deal of social chatter; I'm looking for ubuntu flavored chat.
[05:42] <cub> utf try in terminal ' sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer'
[05:42] <cub> that might help
[05:42] <cmj141> hi, when package manager installs software, where does it install to?
[05:42] <lorddelta> I was just in ##mac for a couple hours...that was fun
[05:42] <thoonai> lorddelta: there you will find it, promised
[05:43] <kdns> Hi All. What's going on with Flash today? Every video I try to watch in firefox, it tells me I need the newest flash, but the only one I can use on their download page, is to compile from source... While looking into it, I've found that firefox has disabled java because it's too old... This was all working fine just hours ago... anyone?
[05:43] <lorddelta> thoonai: sweet
[05:43] <dr_willis> compile flash from source?
[05:43] <kdns> I'd prefer not to.
[05:44] <utf> well i'm using this link
[05:44] <utf> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-install-flash-player-10.html
[05:44] <dr_willis> kdns:  what source?
[05:44] <utf> but there's no "deb" to grab at the adobe site
[05:44] <cub> kdns, might want to try getting java to be enabled
[05:44] <cub> i noticed sometimes when java is disabled on firefox, then flash will not work either
[05:44] <dr_willis> adobe dosent distribute debs. the flash-installer package downloads the tar.gz archive i thought
[05:44] <utf> is ubuntu even worth it if it's this much hassle just for flash?
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> utf: do you have an ok desktop now?
[05:45] <dr_willis> utf:  better to ask if flash is worth the hassle
[05:45] <utf> i think so
[05:45] <cub> utf, honestly
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> utf: install chrome browser, it has inbuilt flash
[05:45] <utf> it hasn't failed yet
[05:45] <utf> yet is the key term
[05:45] <cub> i have been using ubuntu a lot now, i'm not a fan of linux either, but in comparison most everything you can do in windows you can do on linux
[05:45] <kdns> utf, it's not usually this much hassle.
[05:45] <dr_willis> i dont even use flash to watch videos at most sites
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: flash games use flash though ;)
[05:46] <cub> besides i had a terrible experience with windows last week, couldnt get a simple program installed right without all kinds of dll's and all that
[05:46] <dr_willis> flash games are doodie. ;)
[05:46] <kdns> thx dr_willis, i was trying to figure out what the installer does. There was an update to the flash-installer on synaptic last night, I think that might be the source of my woes.
[05:47] <utf> oh my god
[05:47] <skp1> hi i just set my launcher to autohide but when i move the mouse to the left side of the screen it doesnt automatically appear, i have to slide the mouse up or down to make the launcher appear. does anyone know how to fix this?
[05:47] <dr_willis> ive not updated my ubuntu box this week. so no idea whats updates are out
[05:47] <utf> even chrome won't install
[05:47] <cub> utf why not
[05:47] <cub> i have chrome and firefox both
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> utf: did you grab the deb from the google website?>
[05:47] <utf> "dependency is not satisfiable"
[05:47] <utf> yes
[05:47] <utf> not*
[05:47] <skp1> atf: apt-get install -f
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> utf: run:   sudo apt-get -f install
[05:47] <skp1> .. hehe
[05:48] <thoonai> how does a system can crash like this?
[05:48] <thoonai> its just *argh*
[05:48] <cub> why not just install chrome from within  Synaptic?
[05:48] <jacamol> greetings. please may i request some assistance in getting a working xorg.conf (12.04)
[05:48] <thoonai> jacamol: what is not working?
[05:48] <cure_life> you can download flash player source code, and there is a file named libflashplayer.so, mv that file in to the ~/.mozilla/plugins/  then firefox can use the flash player
[05:49] <dr_willis> jacamol:  x should auto configure and not need a xorg.conf for the most part
[05:49] <thoonai> cub: this whole system seems to be messed up
[05:49] <utf> action that just nbrought up "the following package was automatically installed and is no longer requited: linux-headers-3.5.0-17"
[05:49] <utf> required*
[05:49] <skp1> hi i just set my launcher to autohide but when i move the mouse to the left side of the screen it doesnt automatically appear, i have to slide the mouse up or down to make the launcher appear. does anyone know how to fix this?
[05:49] <utf> this is going to make me go up a wall
[05:49] <jacamol> thoonai: hi, and thanks. it simply does not. my video chip is the dreaded sis mirage 3. the driver is being loaded although i am left with a blank screen - attempting autoconfig fails
[05:49] <cub> skp1, does this happen on a restart too?
[05:50] <utf> can't install flash, can't install chrome
[05:50] <jacamol> thoonai: i used this: http://ajoliveira.com/ajoliveira/uk/software/xorg.php (my laptop is actually the very same, but yeah... blank screen)
[05:50] <cub> utf, you tried installing chrome using Synaptic Package Manager?
[05:50] <utf> i'll take you thru what i did
[05:51] <utf> ugh
[05:52] <utf> i downloaded the deb
[05:52] <skp1> utf
[05:52] <skp1> apt-get install -fr
[05:52] <utf> double clicked it and it took me to ubuntu software center
[05:52] <skp1> apt-get install -f
[05:52] <utf> and i got that error
[05:52] <ActionParsnip> utf: install it in terminal, its a bit easier
[05:53] <utf> still nothing useful
[05:53] <dr_willis> the terminal is often much easier. ;)
[05:53] <utf> it just brought up e: command line option "r" from "fr" is not know
[05:53] <utf> this is nuts
[05:53] <dr_willis> what are you doing exactly. and what error message
[05:53] <ActionParsnip> utf: what file name do you have and where is it located?
[05:54] <utf> google-chrome-stable-current_amd64.deb, in my downloads folder
[05:54] <ActionParsnip> utf: adobe are dropping flash for Linux soon, so you'll nee chrome
[05:54] <utf> yes but i can't even download chrome
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> utf: ok, run:  sudo dpkg -i ~/Downloads/google-chrome-stable-current_amd64.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[05:55] <utf> install*
[05:55] <ActionParsnip> utf: you have downloaded it, or the deb wouldn't be in the ~/Downloads folders
[05:56] <dr_willis> i like 'sudo gdebi foo.deb'    seems to work nicer for me
[05:56] <dr_willis> but gdebi is not installed by default.
[05:56] <utf> no such file or directory?!
[05:56] <utf> omg
[05:57] <dr_willis> check your speling... and stop omging...
[05:57] <utf> oh
[05:57] <utf> hold on
[05:57] <jacamol> here is what i am getting: http://pastebin.com/kVNcrUy1 - if anybody can help, it's be great. am at a real loss here :(
[05:57] <dr_willis> or just panic and run around like your pants are on fire..
[05:57] <kdns> ActionParsnip: try && instead of ; ,to ensure successful execution of the prior command.
[05:57] <utf> it's frustration
[05:57] <cub> utf, the files and folders on linux are case sensitive
[05:57] <utf> yeah, thanks for telling me i have no room for frustration
[05:57] <utf> very helpful willis
[05:58] <cub> so if you type download instead of Download, and there is no download folder (with lower d) it will come back.. no such file folder
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> utf: I gave the exact command, if you garbage the case then I cannot accommodate for that
[05:58] <dr_willis> if you want to get this fixed.. you dont need frustration
[05:58] <dr_willis> it makes our job harder
[05:58] <utf> three letters
[05:58] <ActionParsnip> kdns: oh yeah totally but it'd be ok, plus the -f install doesn't break anything if there is nothing to do
[05:58] <dr_willis> tab completion a;so helps avoid typos
[05:59] <utf> like that one?
[05:59] <jacamol> ahh, there's a bit more on this one: http://pastebin.com/7kchiekn
[06:01] <ActionParsnip> utf: if you use TAB to autocomplete files, it makes life lots easier :)
[06:01] <leonardpop> hello! i need help with internet connection through wifi.  Internet connection is inconsistent, mostly slow. i had win7 on this laptop and internet was fast (i have a broadband connection, average download speed is 2 MB/s. Thank you!
[06:01] <utf> i think it worked
[06:01] <kdns> yeh, the new flashplugin-installer doesn't download and install the new flash, at all.
[06:02] <utf> but i can't find chrome
[06:02] <utf> where would it have downloaded to?
[06:02] <cub> utf, type in terminal 'google-chrome'
[06:02] <dr_willis> command is 'google-chrome'
[06:02] <kdns> fortunately there's now a package called adobe-flashplugin, which is actually a deb of the flash plugin and installs directly.
[06:02] <dr_willis> kdns:  thats interesting..
[06:03] <kdns> that got it working, but you guys who hang around here and give out support , might want to watch out for this as people update...
[06:03] <utf> not found
[06:03] <utf> unreal
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> utf: don't confuse the word 'install' with 'download'
[06:03] <ActionParsnip> utf: if you search dash, you will find it
[06:04] <thoonai> do 'chromium-browser' in your terminal ^^
[06:04] <ActionParsnip> utf: also run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade     you just also added the google repo, so you can get updates to chrome :)
[06:04] <utf> it's not in my dash either
[06:04] <utf> wow
[06:04] <thoonai> open dash and type chrome
[06:04] <utf> not there
[06:04] <thoonai> utf: try 'chromium'
[06:05] <utf> not there either
[06:05] <utf> i'm stunned
[06:05] <thoonai> utf: me too
[06:05] <skp1> we're all stunned.
[06:05] <thoonai> utf: this never happened to us either
[06:05] <jacamol> i just found something. going to try it
[06:05]  * dr_willis is flaberghasted
[06:06] <ActionParsnip> utf: can you run the command in terminal to install the deb file, and use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com to give us the output
[06:06] <utf> not a singl thing i've done since installing this has worked
[06:06] <utf> one sec ActionParsnip
[06:06] <thoonai> utf: I wish you all luck for a working system, hang on ^^
[06:07] <thoonai> goodnight all
[06:07] <utf2> logging in on my afflicted laptop now that my keyboard and mouse work
[06:08] <kdns> There comes a time when one must accept, that their hardware does not play well with linux.
[06:08] <utf2> ActionParsnip:  what was it you suggested i do?
[06:08] <kdns> If your keyboard wasn't working, you have serious problems and shouldn't even be considering a browser yet.
[06:08] <utf2> well it works now
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> utf2: rerun the command you ran to install the deb file and copy the output, use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com to hold the text
[06:09] <hexstatik> hey i was messing around with emerald theme manager, but now its set to a theme i dont like. How do i reset to the original 12.10 theme?
[06:09] <jacamol> yeah, no joy there. i think it's something to do with 'modeline' - i'll await advice. thanks a lot
[06:09] <kdns> working now has nothing to do with why the heck it didnt work out of the box
[06:09] <skp1> hexstatik: gtk-window-decorator --replace
[06:09] <utf2> it ws going out on cue every 10 minutes and since action helped last it hasn't gone out
[06:09] <ActionParsnip> utf2: when the page changes after you hit the 'paste' button, copy the new address in the address bar and paste it here
[06:09] <hexstatik> ty
[06:10] <utf2> redoing the command now
[06:10] <kdns> utf I can tell you need a hand and I'd love to help but I kind ahave to go for a bit, and you seem well taken care of... so I'll give you one bit of advice
[06:10] <kdns> SLOW DOWN
[06:10] <kdns> take it one thing at a time
[06:10] <utf2> kdns: noted, i appreciate it
[06:10] <kdns> if your keyboard isn't working, dont rush to fix it... find out WHY it isnt working.
[06:11] <utf2> well if it goes out again I'll accept my fate
[06:11] <kdns> if you can't find a file, dont rush to find it, find out WHY you can't find it already
[06:11] <utf2> lol
[06:11] <utf2> makes sense
[06:11] <kdns> lol
[06:11] <kdns> it might take a bit longer, but it'll be much smoother and less stressful for you :)
[06:12] <utf2> sound advice
[06:12] <kdns> I'll be back in 30 mins or so and help out if you're still stuck.
[06:12] <kdns> good luck man
[06:12] <utf2> which terminal am i using, the windowed one or the alt ctrl f1 one?
[06:12] <utf2> thank you kindly
[06:13] <leonardpop> hello! i need help with internet connection through wifi.  Internet connection is inconsistent, mostly slow. i had win7 on this laptop and internet was fast (i have a broadband connection, average download speed is 2 MB/s. Thank you!
[06:13] <utf2> i didn't know you ould copy and paste from terminal
[06:13] <utf2> well i knew you could paste INTO it
[06:14] <Sarah> hi can someone please tell me why Ubuntu is booting slower than Windows 8 ? i tested both last evening and windows 8 is faster and it uses only 400 mb of Ram while Ubuntu 600mb
[06:14] <ActionParsnip> utf2: same as any text, swipe with mouse, right click, copy
[06:15] <Sarah> i always thought Ubuntu is faster than windows
[06:15] <SpArTaKo> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1515865/
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> Sarah: not always
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> Sarah: it can be
[06:15] <Sarah> not always what ?
[06:15] <ActionParsnip> Sarah: not always faster
[06:15] <SpArTaKo> Help me http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1515865/
[06:15] <Sarah> not always fatser ?
[06:15] <Sarah> lol
[06:15] <aeon-ltd> Sarah: it could be though
[06:16] <SpArTaKo> speak spanish??
[06:16] <Sarah> so people will go back to Windows or what ?
[06:16] <DaemonicApathy> !es | spartako
[06:16] <SpArTaKo> :)
[06:16] <aeon-ltd> Sarah: no, people use whatever the hell they like and find convenient
[06:17] <SpArTaKo> No puede entrar #ubuntu-es (Estás baneado). desde hace un año  BinLaden is owner ?
[06:17] <aeon-ltd> mass migration doesn't happen because cold booting takes a few seconds more
[06:17] <SpArTaKo> gob bye
[06:17] <aeon-ltd> average users don't care at all
[06:17] <cache_za> aeon-ltd, define average user
[06:17] <ActionParsnip> Sarah: if it suits their needs, they may.
[06:17] <cache_za> :P
[06:18] <DaemonicApathy> Any OS can boot slowly, if there are enough programs being opened right away.
[06:18] <utf2> should I just paste all of what came up here?
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> Sarah: you are contesting 200Mb or RAM....its not a lot....
[06:18] <DaemonicApathy> utf2: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[06:18] <ActionParsnip> Sarah: if you want a fast OS, install LXDE and use the LXDE session, it will use a lot less RAM
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> oh well
[06:19] <HonestAbe> xfce is also good
[06:19] <aeon-ltd> cache_za: people who browse the internet for social media and streaming media with occasional work done in office suites
[06:19] <HonestAbe> oh darn
[06:19] <utf2> download as text?
[06:19] <utf2> oh here's the link duh
[06:19] <utf2> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1515874/
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> utf2: go to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com (3rd time now) and use that
[06:19] <ActionParsnip> yay
[06:20] <HonestAbe> sarah, xfce is also good
[06:20] <ActionParsnip> HonestAbe: gone
[06:20] <HonestAbe> nah, she rejoined
[06:20] <uw> that is debatable
[06:21] <hexstatik> does anyone know how to change the font color and icon size in dash?
[06:21] <cache_za> i actually installed gnome 3 again after a while, much better than last time i tried it
[06:21] <ActionParsnip> utf2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/220960/cannot-install-google-chrome-how-do-i-fix-it
[06:21] <Sarah> whats xfce ?
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> utf2: you need the universe repo enabling
[06:22] <uw> sounds great!  give me another update in a few years and maybe ill try it again too
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> Sarah: a light desktop environment
[06:22] <cache_za> :D
[06:22] <HonestAbe> not as light as lxde i hear though
[06:22] <Sarah> ubuntu right ?
[06:22] <HonestAbe> yes
[06:22] <HonestAbe> *xubuntu
[06:22] <ActionParsnip> utf2: you need to edit /etc/apt/sources.list again, and UNcomment the lines with the word 'universe' on that start with the word 'deb'
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> Sarah: its a different desktop, super light, using few resources
[06:23] <hexstatik> and does anyone know any better UI solutions for alt+tab
[06:23] <uw> wat
[06:23] <ActionParsnip> hexstatik: the ring switcher in Compiz if you use it
[06:23] <utf2> kk i'll see what that does for me
[06:24] <aeon-ltd> hexstatik: don't use alt-tab, dedicate workspaces?
[06:24] <utf2> so do what that guide does then uncomment those lines?
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> utf2: the packages are available, just not known to the package system as they are disabled right now, they are easily enabled
[06:24] <lahwran> WHAT THE FLYING -- UGH. ubuntu is, for some worthless reason, putting <IP_ADDRESS> in resolv.conf, which is causing dns to hang and then fail! why in the world is it doing this, and what can I do to undo this useless behavior?
[06:24] <lahwran> this has to be something someone thought was a good idea
[06:24] <ActionParsnip> utf2: just uncomment the lines for the universe repo and they will be available after a: sudo apt-get update
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> lahwran: you are using dnsmasq now, it caches the resolutions. It is normal
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> lahwran: its not useless.
[06:25] <utf2> so I don't need to use that guide, just uncomment the lines
[06:25] <lahwran> ActionParsnip: it is useless, how do I undo
[06:25] <lahwran> it
[06:25] <ActionParsnip> lahwran: you can add extra DNS servers if you like using the config file, let me get the name for you
[06:26] <lahwran> I want to remove it so that it does not put <IP_ADDRESS> on the list. how do I do that?
[06:26] <hexstatik> aeon-ltd: i use two 24 inch screens so really dont see the need for multiple workspaces
[06:26] <hexstatik> ActionParsnip: lemme try
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> lahwran: echo "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" | sudo tee /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base > /dev/null
[06:26] <Need> Hey all. i am having issues dual booting. i have done the non wubi install with no issues in the past with a different pc. ive installed it, i dont get a grub menu, ive used easy bcd to no avail. i am ona gigabyte uefi motherboard
[06:26] <utf2> confused again, i swear i'm not dense but you kinda tied me up
[06:26] <ActionParsnip> lahwran: that will make the name server you add, be added to /etc/resolv.conf each boot
[06:27] <Need> nick/ boot help
[06:27] <Need> whoops
[06:27] <ActionParsnip> Need: if you hold shift, do you see Grub?
[06:27] <Need> when i boot? ive tried it once with no luck
[06:27] <lahwran> ActionParsnip: clever with teeing sudo. will that remove the <IP_ADDRESS> server? because my issue is arising from the fact that that 127.* server is *slowing down* resolution
[06:28] <utf2> ActionParsnip:  you sent me that link and then told me to go into some command and uncomment lines... do i do both?
[06:28] <Need> i believe it is a uefi bios problem. i have no idea what else it can be. i am still new to linux terminal and such
[06:29] <ActionParsnip> lahwran: the <IP_ADDRESS> will stand but the <IP_ADDRESS> wil be added extra
[06:30] <lahwran> ActionParsnip: will it be before 127, then?
[06:30] <lahwran> blah, rebooting this machine takes forever
[06:30] <ActionParsnip> utf2: all you need to do is uncomment the lines. The page just explains why
[06:31] <hexstatik> ActionParsnip: its pretty cool, not sure that its more effecient tho
[06:31] <utf2> but the page tells me to go into software manager and do all that stuff...
[06:31] <ActionParsnip> utf2: you can do it that way if you wish, it achieves the same
[06:32] <utf2> i can't even find where "edit" is in the software center
[06:34] <rinzler> Is there a way to do AirPlay from PulseAudio?
[06:34] <Dualboot> no luck on holding shift either on the dual boot setup
[06:34] <Dualboot> ugh
[06:35] <utf2> ActionParsnip:  it says "First, open software center. Click on 'edit' and then 'software sources' to open the software sources window."
[06:35] <utf2> where is "edit"?
[06:35] <rinzler> utf2: if you hover over the top bar, it'll show up
[06:36] <Dualboot> when i tried booting with easy bcd it instantly brought me to grub4dos. what the heck
[06:36] <hexstatik> oops, i just disabled unity, how do i enable it?
[06:36] <rinzler> not the top bar of the window, but the very top bar
[06:37] <Dualboot> this has been a nightmare install
[06:37] <hexstatik> i was messing around in compiz and there was a conflicting freature in compiz and i thought it would just disable that particular part of unity but it disabled the whole thing, how do i enable unity?
[06:38] <ActionParsnip> utf2: I'd just go for the file. You can run:  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list      and use the text editor, rather than terminal
[06:38] <utf2> ActionParsnip: did what the page says, found the edit thing
[06:38] <utf2> run the install command again for chrome?
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> utf2: you'll need to run:  sudo apt-get update    to read the new sources you added
[06:39] <ActionParsnip> utf2: then yes, rerun the install chrome deb file command and then the:  sudo apt-get -f install
[06:39] <utf2> doing it now
[06:40] <Dualboot> ActionParsnip: would i have to change the install at all if i am in a new uefi motherboard?
[06:40] <utf2> sudo apt-get -f install is alredy part of the install command
[06:40] <rinzler> Is there a way to do airplay from pulseaudio?
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> Dualboot: I've not used uefi, so no idea. Sorry
[06:41] <utf2> ActionParsnip: same thing is happening... wow
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> utf2: cool, even better :)
[06:41] <ActionParsnip> utf2: why wow?
[06:41] <utf2> because i thought t would work this time
[06:41] <Dualboot> this is so stressfull
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> utf2: can you run:   gedit /etc/apt/sources.list     and show us the file you have using the pastebin
[06:42] <utf2> it wasn't a shot at you or anything, i'm just stunned that i can't even get a browser installed
[06:42] <ActionParsnip> utf2: you can, you just have some package sources disabled. Once you get them enabled you are fine
[06:42] <utf2> this is all i get when i run that deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu quantal main universe restricted multiverse
[06:43] <ActionParsnip> utf2: can you pastebin the sources.list file please
[06:44] <utf2> hm?
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> utf2: I assume you saved the file after you editted it and closed gedit
[06:44] <utf2> that's all that came up when I ran that command
[06:44] <ActionParsnip> utf2: the pastebin website you used earlier, use that to show us the content of the file
[06:45] <utf2> the parent directory and all that?
[06:45] <utf2> i don't follow
[06:45] <livefree424> hello how is everyone...i need some help getting audio out with hdmi i have tried different things to get it to work to no avail anyone know what to do???
[06:45] <kdns> action: he's done `echo *a deb string* > ....sources.list' instead of >>, and overwritten the file.
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> utf2: ok, lets make this easier. run:  sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> kdns: lets see
[06:45] <ActionParsnip> utf2: what is the output?
[06:46] <kdns> hahaha exactly what i was just typing. love that tool!
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> kdns: I love how it accepts streams too :)
[06:46] <ActionParsnip> kdns: even cooler to pipe to xclip
[06:46] <Spindel> Fuck...  Isn't anyone experiencing the same??!!!
[06:49] <livefree424> i need some help getting audio out with hdmi i have tried different things to get it to work to no avail anyone know what to do??? also when i change audio output to hdmi no sound comes out and youtube speeds up fast forward or something
[06:50] <livefree424> im on 12.10
[06:50] <cub> im on 10.04 :P
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> utf2: wget -O /etc/apt/sources.list https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/quantalsources.list
[06:50] <cub> dont feel like upgrading because the gui is ugly
[06:50] <utf2> ActionParsnip: ppermssion denied
[06:50] <b0tm1nd> You can get used to it..
[06:50] <ActionParsnip> cub: you don't have to use Unity
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> cub: Gnome+Unity is not the only GUI in Precise
[06:51] <cub> yeah but still don't really want to upgrade, i'm low on disk space anyways
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> utf2: ok, run:   cd $HOME; wget https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/quantalsources.list
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> cub: well it's EOL in 4 months
[06:51] <b0tm1nd> Me too.
[06:51] <cub> thats alright, i was using Windows 98 as recent as 2009 lol
[06:51] <ActionParsnip> cub: no updates and no support here
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> utf2: did it download?
[06:52] <b0tm1nd> Flash in Chrome works great but in FF absolutely not!
[06:52] <cub> np, google solves most of my issues :) but ty for letting me kow
[06:52] <cub> know*
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> utf2: then run:  sudo mv ~/quantalsources.list /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:52] <ActionParsnip> cub: no worries
[06:52] <utf2> yes, sorry had to deuce
[06:52] <livefree424> no thoughts anyone?????
[06:53] <ActionParsnip> livefree424: if you run 'sound' in dash, is the right device selected as output? if you run alsamixer are all levels cranked and unmuted? If you then press F6 is it the right device selected
[06:54] <utf2> sudo mv ~/quantalsources.list /etc/apt/sources.list didn't do anything after the first one downloaded
[06:54] <utf2> just opened a new command line
[06:55] <livefree424> in alsa if i select hdmi there are no volume options
[06:55] <livefree424> only for internal speakers
[06:57] <b0tm1nd> I am frequently having this error in Error console Timestamp: 01/10/2013 08:56:31 AM
[06:57] <b0tm1nd> Error: The Components object is deprecated. It will soon be removed. Source File: chrome://flashfirebug/content/flashfirebug.xml Line: 31
[06:57] <ssss_> some one know if Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) work nvidia'
[06:57] <utf2> ActionParsnip: update - that last command you posted brought up mv: cannot stat `/home/schlonginator/quantalsources.list': No such file or directory
[06:58] <b0tm1nd> Other than that instead of a flash space I see just the background, when I right click it acts as for the normal HTML element
[06:58] <daftykins> ssss_: please try that sentence again in English
[06:58] <ssss_> daftykins: i speak spanish
[06:58] <daftykins> !es | ssss_
[06:59] <ssss_> ubottu: i come from there
[06:59] <Getterac7> Is there a way to use multiseat with a single split-screen display?  I'd like to play LAN games with a friend on one computer/monitor setup.
[06:59] <ssss_> daftykins:  do you know about pyrit?
[07:00] <daftykins> never heard of it, sorry
[07:00] <livefree424> what is the best alsa mixer to use there are too many
[07:01] <ssss_> alsa mixer?
[07:01] <livefree424> for audio
[07:01] <ssss_> what is alsa?
[07:01] <livefree424> its like volume control
[07:02] <ssss_> ok
[07:02] <ssss_> i dont know
[07:02] <kdns> livefree just use alsamixer and keep it simple while youre troubleshooting
[07:02] <livefree424> so like alsamixergui
[07:03] <livefree424> or the one in terminal
[07:03] <utf2> ActionParsnip: you still around?
[07:04] <Spindel> What to do when Ubuntu can't find sudo?
[07:06] <chris619> hello
[07:06] <olegb> Spindel: use full path /usr/bin/sudo ?
[07:06] <Getterac7> Spindel: if you don't have sudo, use "su" to switch to root user.
[07:06] <kdns> Spindel: try 'su bash', in a terminal, what happens?
[07:06] <Getterac7> Spindel: then try reinstalling sudo through apt-get or whatever.
[07:06] <utf2> welp, since my lifeline left i may as well quit
[07:06] <kdns> utf2: chill
[07:06] <utf2> no clue what to do from here
[07:07] <utf2> i'm not mad
[07:07] <Spindel> kdns: su: command not found
[07:07] <kdns> utf2: i have a few minutes to spare here
[07:07] <kdns> Spindel: what did you change?
[07:07] <Spindel> su bash
[07:07] <somsip> Spindel: what system are you on...your own PC or a server of some kind?
[07:07] <utf2> the reason i say i'm going to quit is because you've been out of the loop and it's a shitton to catch up on
[07:07] <Spindel> ubuntu server
[07:07] <somsip> Spindel: hosted where?
[07:08] <Spindel> somsip: co-location
[07:08] <olegb> Spindel: you f* up your $PATH ?
[07:08] <Spindel> i believe i got some bus error
[07:08] <somsip> Spindel: so hosted? Maybe you don't have access to su/sudo...
[07:08] <Spindel> somsip: no, co-location = my server
[07:08] <Spindel> i own it
[07:08] <Spindel> probably nginx upload progress did some shit that locked the system or something
[07:08] <Spindel> but im still in ssh
[07:09] <Spindel> but can't do shit
[07:09] <kdns> Spindel: log in as root.
[07:09] <Spindel> kdns: how?
[07:09] <somsip> !language | Spindel
[07:09] <Getterac7> Spindel: just "su"
[07:09] <Spindel> Getterac7: doesnt work, cant find command
[07:09] <Spindel> su: command not found
[07:09] <Getterac7> Spindel: then someone disabled your super user control.
[07:09] <somsip> Spindel: echo $PATH
[07:10] <chris619> how can i move the launcher to the buttom?
[07:10] <somsip> chris619: you can't
[07:10] <utf2> gonna go look for help somewhere else for now, thans
[07:10] <Getterac7> somsip: that sucks... you could in like v10.x and v11.x :(
[07:11] <somsip> Getterac7: are you talking about unity or another window manager?
[07:11] <Spindel> somsip: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[07:11] <Getterac7> somsip: when i was using Gnome2 i could put the launcher/start/task bar where ever i wanted.
[07:12] <somsip> Getterac7: I have no idea about gnome. I am aware that unity can't be moved, and I assumed you meant that. I was wrong
[07:12] <olegb> Spindel: Chech if sudo is in /usr/bin and check if it has the right permissions
[07:12] <kdns> Spindel: Did this ever work, or was it like this as soon as you installed?
[07:12] <skp1> Getterac7: http://www.unixmen.com/move-unity-launcher-to-the-bottom-with-unity-bottom-launcher-ppa-ubuntu/
[07:12] <Getterac7> somsip: i haven't touched Ubuntu since they switched to Unity, so that explains it.
[07:13] <somsip> Spindel: ls /usr/bin  - is sudo in there?
[07:13] <somsip> Getterac7: k - not sure what you can/can't do with gnome2 though
[07:13] <Spindel> kdns: This stopped working when i uploaded a file to my server via website
[07:13] <vitaliko> hello, while messing with compiz i accidently disabled unity. Tried restarting it but no worky :/
[07:13] <Spindel> probably nginx progress module crashed something
[07:13] <Spindel> somsip: I cant use ls
[07:13] <vitaliko> can anyone help
[07:13] <Spindel> doesnt work
[07:13] <Spindel> but sudo is there
[07:14] <Getterac7> Spindel: how do you know sudo is there if you can't ls ?
[07:14] <Spindel> the server works after psycically reboot
[07:14] <somsip> Spindel: on what evidence do you base that? Whoi setup the server for you? Are you sure you are not in a restricted bshell?
[07:14] <Spindel> i got this problems after i upgraded nginx and nginx upload progress module
[07:15] <Spindel> it will work after reboot
[07:15] <Spindel> but crash again when someone uploads a file via http website
[07:15] <kdns> ahhh
[07:15] <vitaliko> typing from terminal now, can someone help me please
[07:15] <kdns> so in fact, it works fine, until you upload a file
[07:15] <Spindel> but dunno how i can reboot the server via ssh :( this sucks
[07:15] <Spindel> yes
[07:15] <thec4ke> shutdown -r now?
[07:16] <Getterac7> Spindel: you can do a reboot over ssh with shutdown -r
[07:16] <Getterac7> yeah.
[07:16] <Getterac7> you have to have admin access to shutdown though, rofl.
[07:16] <BAT-21> Okay, so I finally got my IRCd working properly. I think. . .Would anybody be interested in checking it out. Send me a personal message if so, please.
[07:16] <Spindel> shutdown: command not found
[07:16] <thec4ke> sudo shutdown -r now
[07:16] <thec4ke> done. and done.
[07:16] <Getterac7> he can't sudo
[07:16] <Spindel> i cant use sudo
[07:16] <Getterac7> and can't su
[07:16] <thec4ke> youre screwed
[07:16] <thec4ke> sry :\
[07:16] <Spindel> yeah :(
[07:16] <chris619> how can i move the launcher to the buttom?
[07:17] <vitaliko> can someone help me to reactivate unity please?
[07:17] <thec4ke> is this your server?
[07:17] <chris619> seriously?
[07:17] <chris619> thats such a pain
[07:17] <BAT-21> my dkstop
[07:17] <kdns> call your colo host and have them power cycle it, disable nginx, contact nginx for fix.
[07:17] <Spindel> kdns: yes, that's what i will do
[07:17] <kdns> chris619: you already got your answer scroll up.
[07:17] <Spindel> i will try older version of nginx
[07:17] <Spindel> prop shouldnt take latest stable
[07:18] <chris619> kdns: thats stupid
[07:18] <kdns> chris619: pardon?
[07:18] <somsip> chris619: so what version are you running?
[07:18] <chris619> kdns: whats the reason for users not beign able to move the launcher?
[07:18] <Getterac7> chris619: sounds like you need to install a package to put it on the bottom.
[07:18] <chris619> Someguy123: 12.10
[07:19] <chris619> Getterac7: which packge?
[07:19] <Getterac7> *cough*This is why i don't Unity*cough*
[07:19] <Getterac7> chris619: http://www.unixmen.com/move-unity-launcher-to-the-bottom-with-unity-bottom-launcher-ppa-ubuntu/
[07:19] <chris619> Getterac7: tried that. doesnt exist
[07:19] <kdns> vitalko: unity --reset
[07:20] <BAT-21> UNITY www.youtube.com/watch?v=toAEQTsidvg
[07:20] <Getterac7> chris619: dunno what to tell you then :(  I can't stand Unity so i switched to a sub-version of Ubuntu...
[07:20] <kdns> chris619: sorry I don't use unity. I wasn't trying to discuss why you need a PPA to install some jazz just to put it at the bottom, just wanted to be sure you knew that it was possible (even if it is so difficult it's stupid!). I use KDE.
[07:21] <somsip> chris619: the only links I see to that are old (11.10) and I don't hear of any way to move unity now.
[07:21] <chris619> damn
[07:22] <chris619> wondering if i should have stuck with mint
[07:22] <Getterac7> chris619: i can only suggest to switch to Kubuntu / xubuntu / fuduntu / mint /...
[07:23] <Getterac7> or switch to KDE or whatever and uninstall Unity
[07:26] <rypervenche> Getterac7: What's fuduntu?
[07:26] <Getterac7> rypervenche: Ubuntu with Gnome2
[07:26] <Getterac7> basically Ubuntu before they switched to Unity.
[07:26] <Kartagis> chris619: you should be able to just drag and drop
[07:27] <rypervenche> OH! FUD, gotcha.
[07:27] <Kartagis> chris619: or right click
[07:27] <hexstatik> knds: unity --reset doesnt work in 12.10
[07:27] <chris619> karakedi: what?!
[07:27] <thec4ke> keep in mind fuduntu is rpm based
[07:27] <Getterac7> rypervenche: and it includes some handy licensed stuff like Flash, MP3, and other helpful stuff like  VLC, Steam, etc etc
[07:27] <Muphrid> Fuduntu is a Fedora fork
[07:27] <hexstatik> but i was able to get unity by type startx from termnial
[07:28] <Muphrid> doesnt have anything to do with the ubuntu codebase
[07:28] <Getterac7> Muphrid: ah ok.  It ended in -untu so i just made the guess.
[07:29] <Muphrid> Getterac7: the project goal was to produce a midterm between fedora and ubuntu hence the name
[07:29] <Muphrid> but the base is Fedora
[07:29] <Getterac7> Muphrid: ah ok. Thanks for the info
[07:30] <thec4ke> if you want ubuntu with gnome 2 mint mate should make you happy
[07:30] <claudia> Hi
[07:31] <Getterac7> thec4ke: i hear mint is good.  I do want to give it a go soon.
[07:31] <claudia> I have a question about grub. Any takers
[07:31] <Muphrid> claudia: Ask
[07:31] <thec4ke> its basically ubuntu with a unique panel and nonfree apt sources enabled by default
[07:32] <Getterac7> all ears
[07:32] <claudia> I enter gedit /ect/default/grub into a terminal and edited the timeout
[07:32] <claudia> I saved and closed the window but when I typed gedit /ect/default/grub again into the terminal it brings up an dempty edit window
[07:33] <reaga> hey
[07:33] <Muphrid> claudia: /etc/default.d/grub.d/ is a directory, you configure grub in /boot/grub/grub.cfg , but i dont know about the timeout
[07:33] <reaga> how do i see how much ram im using on UBUNTU
[07:33] <sara_ubuntu_> hi room
[07:34] <OerHeks> claudia, did you use sudo ? >> sudo /ect/default/grub
[07:34] <reaga> im brand new to ubuntu how do i see ram
[07:34] <b[o]rg> anyone here know of a good web crawler or indexer?
[07:34] <reaga> what do i press
[07:34] <b[o]rg> I just want to get a listing from a website and see where the links go
[07:34] <sara_ubuntu_> hi reaga here u go http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=check%20ram%20ubuntu&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cyberciti.biz%2Ffaq%2Fcheck-ram-in-ubuntu%2F&ei=8G7uUOmQIcz14QS7yYBo&usg=AFQjCNEUCgutI4I_Uzg7mXQqPjQ3uMOvvg&bvm=bv.1357700187,d.bGE
[07:34] <OerHeks> * sudo gedit /ect/default/grub
[07:34] <Getterac7> reaga: basically Linux uses as much ram as possible, so all of it.
[07:34] <b[o]rg> i dont want to download or mirror the site
[07:34] <reaga> Getterac7: i have 16GB though
[07:34] <Muphrid> reaga: top or atop in the command line, gnome-system-monitor in a graphical interface
[07:34] <b[o]rg> just to get some index data, see where the links go
[07:34] <reaga> actually ive only allowed 3.5GB into the ubuntu machine
[07:35] <Getterac7> reaga: Linux doesn't let ram go to waste, so it will use all of it for buffers and such.  So it basically always uses all of your ram.
[07:35] <claudia> Yes sudo gedit /ect/default/grub
[07:35] <sara_ubuntu_> require help , grub does not load my other linux saved in /media/7c7ce0b0-5b88-4e4c-bb84-c99c0fc7f387
[07:35] <reaga> Getterac7: a buffer for what?
[07:36] <thec4ke> are you actually typing sudo gedit /ect/default/grub
[07:36] <thec4ke> cause theres a type there :p
[07:36] <Muphrid> etc:)
[07:36] <claudia> sudo gedit /ect/default/grub both times
[07:36] <thec4ke> try changing ect to etc
[07:36] <claudia> just brings up an empty list now
[07:37] <OerHeks> claudia, and did you run update? update-grub
[07:37] <Getterac7> reaga: don't worry about what a buffer is... just don't worry about how much ram Ubuntu is using.
[07:37] <reaga> maybe is houldve used a smaller linux distribution
[07:37] <reaga> ubuntu seems slow
[07:37] <reaga> and laggy
[07:37] <reaga> real bad
[07:37] <thec4ke> reaga: are you runnign in a vm
[07:37] <reaga> yeah
[07:37] <b[o]rg> i want to index the onion websites and see what .onion addresses it discoveres
[07:38] <OerHeks> claudia,  see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Configuring_GRUB_2
[07:38] <Getterac7> reaga: ubuntu isn't small and fast... you might want to switch to xubuntu or something.
[07:38] <claudia> Oh I think I did type ect instead of etc. Let me try that
[07:38] <thec4ke> unity uses graphical accelerating extensive,ly
[07:38] <thec4ke> acceleration*
[07:38] <reaga> ok how do i disable it
[07:38] <thec4ke> try using lxde instead
[07:38] <sara_ubuntu_> require help , grub does not load my other linux saved in /media/7c7ce0b0-5b88-4e4c-bb84-c99c0fc7f387
[07:38] <kunji> reaga: using Lubuntu instead should make things a bit snappier
[07:38] <reaga> its too late now
[07:38] <thec4ke> nah
[07:38] <thec4ke> its easy
[07:38] <reaga> nah
[07:39] <thec4ke> gimme a sec ill show you how
[07:39] <reaga> you dont understand
[07:39] <reaga> im lazy
[07:39] <kunji> You can still change the GUI, just do what thec4ke says
[07:39] <b[o]rg> just to get some index data, see where the links go
[07:39] <Getterac7> hehe
[07:39] <b[o]rg> i dont want to download or mirror the site
[07:39] <claudia> That worked. can't beloeve it was a simple typo
[07:39] <OerHeks> claudia, have fun
[07:41] <Getterac7> So anyone have ideas on multiseat with one monitor?
[07:41] <thec4ke> reaga: first do sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[07:41] <thec4ke> then follow this to remove the unity clutter:
[07:41] <thec4ke> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelubuntu
[07:41] <thec4ke> might wanna make sure lxde works before removing unity
[07:42] <reaga> nah ill just backup my VM
[07:42] <reaga> clone it
[07:42] <reaga> only take 10 secs
[07:42] <reaga> i love vms
[07:43] <claudia> that worked great, kept getting Display setting is wrong everytime go to Ubuntu since grub sets it at 600x400 at install. At least Ubuntu Studio does.
[07:44] <sara_ubuntu_> any help on how to add installation to grub?
[07:44] <claudia> changed my timeout and display setting
[07:44] <refd> Hi
[07:44] <nanun> Hello
[07:44] <refd> Have a nice day
[07:45] <Krambiorix> ok, i deleted some files with rm , can i have them back ?
[07:45] <refd> What is your file system?
[07:46] <Krambiorix> refd, ext3
[07:47] <refd> You can use ext3grep.
[07:47] <reaga> thec4ke: so its all the same except the ui is faster?
[07:47] <thec4ke> reaga: basically
[07:48] <thec4ke> the gnome tools arent default anymore but theyre still available
[07:48] <reaga> thec4ke: what eles is diferent
[07:48] <reaga> oh
[07:48] <reaga> not default?
[07:48] <reaga> hmm
[07:48] <reaga> this may be problematic
[07:48] <FloodBot1> reaga: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:48] <thec4ke> well what od you need
[07:48] <reaga> i just need a router
[07:48] <reaga> i want touse ubuntu as a router
[07:48] <thec4ke> nono
[07:48] <thec4ke> the graphical tools
[07:48] <thec4ke> are different
[07:49] <thec4ke> all the command line stuff is the same
[07:49] <reaga> ok i dont care
[07:49] <reaga> ok
[07:49] <thec4ke> kernel, packages, etc
[07:49] <thec4ke> all youve changed is the desktop environment
[07:49] <BAT-21> Oh well. Nevermind. I got somebody to test out my IRC server and it's working perfectly now. Was firewalled but now it's good and port forwarded.
[07:49] <claudia> Whats it everyone's opinion on ext4. read some things dated a year ago implying to ext4 being unstable
[07:50] <claudia> most installs default to ext4 now and not ext3
[07:50] <thec4ke> reaga: are you  trying to  route over a cable modem?
[07:50] <Getterac7> claudia: i wouldn't touch ext4.  Too buggy.
[07:51] <jellow> does ftp use md5 sums on files by default , I'm getting a lot of corrupt files of my server not quite sure where I'm going wrong ?
[07:51] <claudia> Can a file system on an already installe Ubuntu be changed to ext3?
[07:51] <claudia> from ext4 back to ext3?