[18:27] <Jack_Sparrow> murlidhar, they wont fix the problem, just let you watch the boot procedd for a place where it is hanging or waiting for something
[18:27] <fabio> about what ^?
[18:28] <murlidhar> there is one more problem when i give username and password in the login menu. it takes a lot of time to boot . then when all the icons appear on the desktop, all of my panels and icons disappear for sometime and again appear aftersometime.
[18:28] <murlidhar> fabio: ^
[18:28] <neopsyche> Jack_Sparrow, how / where in xsane do i check if scanner is installed?
[18:28] <fabio> you are compiz enabled
[18:28] <neopsyche> Jack_Sparrow,says failed to start scan invalid argument when pressing scan button
[18:28] <murlidhar> fabio: yes
[18:29] <murlidhar> fabio: i guess so . by default
[18:29] <fabio> compiz does that
[18:29] <fabio> but to me just for a little while
[18:29] <fabio> are u using etx3 ?
[18:29] <murlidhar> fabio: should i disable compiz?
[18:29] <S4nt4> How do I allow the X server to display the windows of another user than the one logged on ?
[18:29] <murlidhar> fabio: yes
[18:29] <fabio> speed up your system
[18:29] <fabio> nope
[18:29] <fabio> you can still boast about it with your friends
[18:30] <murlidhar> fabio: P4 1.5 GHz ram is 256+512 DDR!
[18:30] <jescis> I don't see anything about SSL in the preferences under any tab or advanced settings botton :(
[18:30] <murlidhar> fabio: built-in graphics card
[18:31] <fabio> the video cars does matter
[18:31] <SimplySeth> jescis: edit->preferences->advanced->encryption ?
[18:31] <fabio> yu can also enalbe the auto login
[18:31] <murlidhar> so my card isn't supported by compiz?
[18:31]  * jescis looks
[18:32] <murlidhar> fabio: got multi-users
[18:32] <fabio> i suppose it is if you see compiz working
[18:32] <Scunizi> murlidhar, what kind of card is it?
[18:32]  * bluefoxx has a 3.5ghz celeron d with 1.5 gigs of RAM and a bfg nvidia6200 OC, soon to be a 6800 OC...just wanted to brag XD
[18:32] <murlidhar> Scunizi: built-in card
[18:32] <Scunizi> murlidhar, built-in is a location not what kind of card it is.
[18:32]  * mosibfu has bought 2x 9600GT ever since the new driver was out... take that bluefoxx
[18:32] <murlidhar> Scunizi: err i don't know then
[18:33] <fabio> celeron d ?
[18:33] <fabio> just wait until i get my new system
[18:33] <SimplySeth> bluefoxx: oh yeah .. well I gotta 1.5Ghz machine with 512 MB of mem and built in 64 MB (shared) vid :)
[18:33] <jescis> SimplySeth: it's marked :\*confused*
[18:33] <SimplySeth> jescis: then I don't know what else could be the issue
[18:33] <murlidhar> fabio: i see all the animations on my desktop
[18:33] <foefieslide> anybody here ever came across vga driver issues in ltsp - Geode LX800
[18:33] <murlidhar> fabio: like when i minimize a window or switch desktops
[18:33] <neeto> Is there a way to debug php on the command line?
[18:34] <fabio> you are not complaining about compiz so
[18:34] <Scunizi> murlidhar, go to system/preferances/hardware information to find out.. that info will help other determine if the card is compatible or not.
[18:34] <fabio> how fast is it ?
[18:34] <SimplySeth> jescis: you can always try 'mv .mozilla old.mozilla` from your home directory and restart firefox .. don't know what else to do
[18:34] <S4nt4> How do I allow the X server to display the windows of another user than the one logged on ?
[18:34] <StrangeCharm> how can I tell if my microphone is correctly configured?
[18:34] <murlidhar> fabio: i am complaining about the the login time. it takes a lot of time
[18:35] <fabio> enable the auto login if you can
[18:35] <neopsyche> Jack_Sparrow, do you know how i can configure it?
[18:35] <fabio> disable all the services you don't use
[18:35] <fabio> kill beagle.exe if you see it around
[18:35] <murlidhar> Scunizi: 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface
[18:35] <SimplySeth> *wonders how does one enable/disable services in ubuntu
[18:35] <murlidhar> Scunizi: 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device
[18:36] <fabio> enable data writeback journal mode
[18:36] <fabio> set sawp to 0
[18:36] <murlidhar> fabio: i did . i don't use beagle.
[18:36] <fabio> swap*
[18:36] <fabio> there are several ways to improve performaces
[18:37] <murlidhar> fabio: but isn't swap required.?
[18:37] <FYI> hello, I need to play an MMS stream from learner.org, and need to do so on my ubuntu machine. Does anyone know of the best player/plugin to do this?
[18:37] <fabio> yes but not so often
[18:37] <SimplySeth> FYI: Kaffein
[18:37] <SimplySeth> FYI: Kaffeine
[18:38] <FYI> on Gnome? :)
[18:38] <murlidhar> fabio: i have got about 999mb swap
[18:38] <fabio> vm.swappiness, search on google
[18:38] <Scunizi> murlidhar, looks like it might be using the intel i810 driver.. if it is you should be able to use compiz.. you can also check on /join #ubuntu-effects  .. they deal with compiz and related issues.
[18:38] <murlidhar> FYI: yes gnome
[18:38] <SimplySeth> FYI: Totem if you hate KDE apps
[18:39] <murlidhar> Scunizi: i don't know if the problem is due to compiz or something else.
[18:39] <fabio> kaffeine gets me nervous...
[18:39] <FYI> murlidhar, SimplySeth: will apt-get install kaffeine install the necessary codecs?
[18:39] <SimplySeth> FYI: and yes KDE apps run in Gnome
[18:39] <FYI> I know :)
[18:39] <SimplySeth> FYI: I believe so
[18:39] <PeP`> if I want to change kernel, do I just have to install this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/base/kernel-image-2.4.27-2-686 ?
[18:39] <Scunizi> murlidhar, what is the problem.. I missed that 'cause I just logged on
[18:39] <SimplySeth> !multimedia
[18:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[18:39] <murlidhar> FYI: i am not sure . i guess xine-libs are used in kaffeine
[18:39] <fabio> 2.4 ?
[18:40] <SimplySeth> !multimedia @FYI
[18:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about multimedia @fyi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:40] <bod_> hey guys, how can i remove the MYsql database for amarok? i want to completely reinstall it, but when i do it through synaptic it seems to keep the database,.,.any ideas?
[18:40] <murlidhar> !media @fyi
[18:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about media @fyi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:40] <kwajstabo> where can i find NFS client foe browsing network folders (synaptic managers shows it is already installed but i cant find it)
[18:40] <FYI> !multimedia > fyi
[18:40] <FYI> thanks!
[18:40] <zanis> lol, i've got a weird problem, when i double click on desktop, windows manager restarts(effect similar to that of ctrl+alt+backspace)
[18:40] <stanis_sh> FYI: more than that :) they runs in xfce too =)
[18:40] <napsy_> How can I enable animations for clearlooks theme?
[18:40] <SimplySeth> bod_: install MySQL administrator and blow away the databas :)
[18:40] <SimplySeth> napsy_: install compiz ?
[18:41] <zanis> come on, this is critical!
[18:41] <napsy_> no I want the progressbar animations
[18:41] <bod_> SimplySeth, i have 0 experience with MySQL databses,. is it easy or not?
[18:41] <murlidhar> fabio: is my swap of 996mb necessary?
[18:41] <zanis> i click a few times on GNOME desktop, and it restarts desktop environment!
[18:41] <fabio> you can eti the theme
[18:41] <bod_> napsy_, do you mean when your boting?
[18:41] <zanis> (like ctrl+alt-backspace)
[18:41] <SimplySeth> bod_: that's why I said "install MySQL Administrator" so you can have a purdy pointy clicky interface :)
[18:41] <Jack_Sparrow> murlidhar, Best to leave it there .. yes
[18:42] <fabio> just go to /usr/share/theme
[18:42] <napsy_> bod_: I mean the gnome clearlooks theme
[18:42] <fabio> you need to edit the gtkrc file
[18:42] <fabio> yes
[18:42] <napsy_> where's that
[18:42] <fabio> the swap is ok, but you can change the way the kernel uses it
[18:42] <bod_> SimplySeth, so the admin thing is bod proof? cool, il check it out cheers -- 1 more thing,. will the admin tool know where the amarok database is or will i have to tell it (if so, where is it by default?)
[18:42] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow: would that not affect me in performance.
[18:43] <SimplySeth> bod_: it gives you a list of "schemas" .. choose the amarok "schema"
[18:43] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow: cuz i think my XP boots faster.
[18:43] <fabio> wm.swappiness will give the kernel a rule
[18:43] <fabio> /usr/share/themes/Clear*
[18:43] <fabio> cd gtk*
[18:43] <napsy_> ok tnx
[18:43] <bod_> SimplySeth, ok, cheers dude
[18:43] <fabio> /usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0
[18:43] <bod_> !helpersnack | SimplySeth
[18:43] <ubotu> SimplySeth: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[18:43] <SimplySeth> bod_: cheers :)
[18:43] <fabio> try to change the gtkrc file and will enable all the animations you can
[18:43] <Grab> hi
[18:43] <bod_> ;~)
[18:43] <Grab> i typed crontab my_file, now how do i edti crontab? using crontab -e or just editing the file my_file manually with a text editor?
[18:44] <SimplySeth> Grab: crontab -e ?
[18:44] <Jack_Sparrow> murlidhar, Boot ime is a relative issue.  a few seconds either way based on my configuration makes little difference to me
[18:44] <Grab> simplexio when i try to save it with nano, it prompts me to save the crontab in another folder.....
[18:45] <Stormx2> How can I find out which package owns a specific file?
[18:45] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow: then how i do i make it faster.
[18:45] <kwajstabo> where can i find NFS client for browsing network folders (synaptic managers shows it is already installed but i cant find it)
[18:45] <Stormx2> Wait, got it
[18:45] <fabio> dpkg -S
[18:45] <geirha> Grab: It should be saved as the file nano suggests. cron will syntax check it before adding it
[18:46] <fabio> dpkg -S that file :
[18:46]  * SimplySeth makes a mental note of dpkg -S
[18:46] <Grab> geirha but nano tells me to save it to tmp dir ??!?!?!
[18:46] <Jack_Sparrow> murlidhar, No idea...  Like I said a minute ago, I dont see much difference between the teo.  If you have changed or added much to the base install I would look at that for a start
[18:47] <simplexio> Grab: yes it does taht
[18:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Grab, are you using sudo nano ?
[18:47] <simplexio> Grab: and it works
[18:47] <Grab> jack-desktop no
[18:47] <Grab> Jack_Sparrow no
[18:47] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow: i just removed the splash
[18:47] <simplexio> Grab: assuming that you are using crontab -e , default EDITOR=nano
[18:47] <SimplySeth> what Desktop Mgr is lighter than XFCE ?
[18:47] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow: and some services too
[18:47] <fabio> dpkg -S /etc/init.d/rc (use the full path)
[18:47] <geirha> Grab: yes, crontab told nano to save it there, and when it detects that the file has been saved, it will check the syntax and add it to your crontab
[18:48] <brobostigon> SimplySeth: enlightenment is lighter
[18:48] <SimplySeth> brobostigon: wow .. haven't seen enlightenment in ages .. okay then .. thanks
[18:48] <fabio> enilghtenment isn't a proper desktop
[18:48] <LiraNuna> anyone knows what's "gtk-doc.m4 not found" means on autogen?
[18:48] <gnuskool> SimplySeth: icewm
[18:49] <LiraNuna> I have downloaded and installed gtk-doc from SVN
[18:49] <SimplySeth> gnuskool: yeah that's a wm not a dm .. but thanks :)
[18:49] <fabio> aclocal ?
[18:50] <Grab> gebeleizis simplexio Jack_Sparrow: my crontab file is stored in /home/grab/crontab, but when i type: crontab -e, nano is saving the file into: File: /tmp/crontab.iRf82g/crontab
[18:50] <Jack_Sparrow> murlidhar, You may have deleted something it is looking for or is trying to use and eventually timing out.  Without specifics from you that is about as much info as I have other than maybe trying  dmesg | grep ee
[18:50] <murlidhar> Jack_Sparrow: k will do that and tell u
[18:50] <fabio> aclocal should make the .m4 files you need
[18:50] <KEBA> ive installt the generic kernel and i think i should use it, but uname -r says that im usingthe 686 ones- how to change?
[18:51] <gnuskool> SimplySeth: equinox mihgt be worth a look
[18:51] <SimplySeth> KEBA: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst make the "generic" one the default
[18:51] <SimplySeth> gnuskool: thank you
[18:51] <SimplySeth> KEBA: reboot :)
[18:51] <Engin_> where do I configure network settings ? (I want static IP)
[18:51] <SimplySeth> Engin_: /etc/network/interfaces
[18:51] <spork969> this is urgent, how do i set up a projector with ubuntu 7.10
[18:52] <spork969> its an epson EMP-50
[18:52] <Engin_> SimplySeth, note to maintainer, put some commented out sample lines
[18:52] <SimplySeth> Engin_: *nod*
[18:52] <SimplySeth> !network | Engin_
[18:52] <ubotu> Engin_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[18:52] <murlidhar> Engin_: left click on the network icon on your panel and select manual
[18:53] <SimplySeth> murlidhar: *DOH* .. that's right .. I should learn the ways of GUI :-/
[18:53] <Outie> evening
[18:53] <fabio> cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[18:53] <Engin_> murlidhar, I'm on bash
[18:54] <murlidhar> SimplySeth: only noobies know how to use GUI. hehe
[18:54] <SimplySeth> murlidhar: HEY ! .. I'm a noob ! (to ubuntu)
[18:54] <geirha> Grab: that's how crontab works. It won't read the crontab from your homefolder, it will store it in a "secret" location
[18:54] <KEBA> SimplySeth: yes that would be easy, but i havent instaltl them yes apt-gep, synapiv and co says they are installt. so itt hink a reboot wouldt change somethinh
[18:54] <PeP`> is the kernel-image-2.X.X-... package enough to install a new kernel?? (downgrade actually)
[18:54] <geirha> Grab: type crontab -l to see how your crontab looks like now
[18:54] <Outie> I'm having problems with Pidgin on Gutsy - the repositories install 2.2, but AIM seems to have messed up on that. I know that 2.4 is out, should that be on the repos? If so, why does my Gutsy not install it?
[18:54] <Grab> geirha ok thanks
[18:54] <celdridge> Can anyone help me in setting up firefox to always spawn on monitor 1 when running dual monitor setup with separate x sessions on each?  Using the firefox -d command seems to work except it always throws an error about being unable to find the current display #.
[18:54] <tattoo> hello everybody
[18:54] <murlidhar> Engin_: err what is bash?
[18:55] <fabio> shell interpreter
[18:55] <Engin_> murlidhar, I'm not running an x server at the moment
[18:55] <SimplySeth> !bash
[18:55] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[18:55] <spork969> this is urgent, how do i set up a projector with ubuntu 7.10
[18:55] <spork969> very urgent
[18:55] <bod_> murlidhar, scripting language
[18:55] <spork969> like within the next five minutes
[18:55] <justm1> what does it take to make a package comply with the Ubuntu/Debian packaging standards.
[18:55] <Engin_> spork969, too late :)
[18:55] <bod_> !patience | spork969
[18:55] <SimplySeth> BASH = Bourne Again SHell
[18:55] <ubotu> spork969: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[18:55] <murlidhar> bod_: u mean bash terminal ?
[18:55] <Engin_> spork969, welcome to the wonderful world of linux :)
[18:56] <murlidhar> ahh how did i miss that??
[18:56] <bod_> murlidhar, the commands you type in the terminal are 'bash commands'
[18:56] <MarcN> spork969: with a laptop, most have a some buttons that change where video out goes to.  mine is a three way switch using Fn-F4
[18:56] <SimplySeth> spork969: is it plugged in ?
[18:56] <Maillard> Hello.  Is there shell command to read the monitor name and data ? I mean something like lsusb or lspci, but for the screen
[18:56] <spork969> yes and yes
[18:56] <fabio> you have to make a cntrol file
[18:56] <fabio> control file
[18:56] <murlidhar> bod_: thnks i remember now
[18:56] <spork969> but the fn+f7 doesnt work
[18:56] <bod_> ;~)
[18:56] <MarcN> spork969: try 3 or more times to see if anything changes.
[18:56] <SimplySeth> spork969: what happens if you reboot the laptop with the projector connected ?
[18:56] <spork969> ive tried like 100 times
[18:57] <neul> hi everybody
[18:57] <spork969> simplyseth, im gonna try that
[18:57] <SimplySeth> spork969: and the projector ON
[18:57] <murlidhar> Engin_: then i guess u can configure what SimplySeth has said
[18:57] <neul> one question:
[18:57] <MarcN> spork969: what type of laptop, projector?
[18:57] <murlidhar> am i right SimplySeth ?
[18:57] <SimplySeth> murlidhar: yah
[18:57] <genii> Maillard: If you have package read-edid installed. sudo get-edid|parse-edid
[18:57] <murlidhar> so who is the nerd here???
[18:57] <bod_> everyine
[18:57] <SimplySeth> <<-- guilty of nerdiness
[18:57]  * murlidhar calls SimplySeth a nerd
[18:57] <fabio> not me
[18:58] <bod_> everyone
[18:58] <SimplySeth> <<-- non-white and nerdy
[18:58] <Maillard> well, thanks genii  if it is not there, i'll install it.
[18:58] <jescis> SimplySeth: here's an image of the error: http://imagebin.ca/view/sJ7JjSG.html
[18:58] <fabio> i'm geek
[18:58]  * murlidhar now fabio jokes
[18:58] <neul> what is that media player?  KLC? KLV?
[18:58] <justm1> what are the  Ubuntu/Debian packaging standards.
[18:58] <bod_> SimplySeth, too much weird al for you ,.,.;~)
[18:58] <Engin_> murlidhar, already did so
[18:58] <genii> Maillard: It reads back the scanline settings the monitor can be set to. This info can be used in xorg.conf file
[18:58] <soundray> !apt | justm1
[18:58] <ubotu> justm1: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[18:58] <geirha> neul: vlc?
[18:58] <murlidhar> Engin_: ask fabio
[18:58] <genii> scanline -> modeline
[18:58] <brobostigon> neul: vlc
[18:59] <murlidhar> he is a geek
[18:59] <Engin_> :)
[18:59] <neul> bingo, thanks :)
[18:59] <SimplySeth> jescis: and you moved the .mozilla folder ?
[18:59] <fabio> becoming a white hat, lol
[18:59] <bod_> this is probably one of the only places i know where being a 'geek' is a good thing ;~)
[18:59] <jescis> I never touched the .mozilla folder
[19:00] <soundray> bod_: don't get around much, do you? ;)
[19:00] <SimplySeth> bod_: I can show you sexy pics of a mini-itx system I built
[19:00] <fabio> i will own novell some day
[19:00] <Engin_> is there a command line to tool to add/remove services to boot up ? i.e. add sshd, remove xorg
[19:00] <bod_> soundray, nope,.,.;~)
[19:00] <nerdsquad3210> a friend of mine tels me that Mr Obama uses ubuntu in all his PCs
[19:00] <bod_> SimplySeth, i dunno what that is -- but go for it ;~)
[19:00] <erUSUL> Engin_: undate-rc.d and rcconf with curses gui
[19:00] <Spunky> Simple question about Terminal. How would I go about downloading a file in terminal from the internet, like put a link in and terminal downloads it.
[19:00] <johnquinn85> does anybody know how to run "toshutils"?
[19:00] <SimplySeth> jescis: for grins and giggles .. open up a terminal and do ... mv .mozilla old.mozilla
[19:00] <fabio> yes change we can
[19:00] <erUSUL> SimplySeth: wget
[19:00] <soundray> Spunky: wget
[19:00] <Spunky> ah ty sir
[19:00] <soundray> !wget | Spunky
[19:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wget - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[19:01] <SimplySeth> jescis: restart firefox
[19:01] <soundray> oops
[19:01] <murlidhar> ok now i installed flash using the command sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree but i can't watch my youtube videos on my firefox 3
[19:01] <Engin_> erUSUL, rcconf is not installed by default, fyi
[19:01] <jescis> k
[19:01] <nerdsquad3210> a friend of mine tels me that Mr Obama uses ubuntu in all his PCs
[19:01] <Spunky> First time using Ubuntu >.>
[19:01] <soundray> Spunky: should be installed by default
[19:01] <bod_> !find wget
[19:01] <ubotu> Found: wget, epiphany-extension-gwget, gwget, wget-el
[19:01] <erUSUL> Engin_: i know i use update-rc.d XD
[19:01] <soundray> !info wget
[19:01] <bod_> !info wget | soundray
[19:01] <ubotu> wget (source: wget): retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.10.2-3ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 233 kB, installed size 1924 kB
[19:01] <ubotu> soundray: please see above
[19:01] <nerdsquad3210> a friend of mine tels me that Mr Obama uses ubuntu in all his PCs ! Is that true ?
[19:01] <johnquinn85> Whoever's using ubuntu for the first time, it's amazing
[19:01] <bod_> soundray, i win mwhahahaha
[19:02] <Engin_> erUSUL, :)
[19:02] <SimplySeth> nerdsquad3210: dunno .. but we should vote for him so we can have an Obama Nation
[19:02] <bod_> nerdsquad3210, i use ubuntu on all 2 of my machines
[19:02] <murlidhar> ok now i installed flash using the command sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree but i can't watch my youtube videos on my firefox 3
[19:02] <kane77> nerdsquad3210, stop trolling
[19:02] <johnquinn85> quick question for anyone who knows the answer
[19:02] <murlidhar> somebody help me with firefox 3
[19:02] <bod_> murlidhar, your aware that firefox 3 isnt finished yet,.,.
[19:03] <johnquinn85> I have a Toshiba A105, and the fan is not working...
[19:03] <murlidhar> bod_: yes and i had in my linux mint 4.0 and it worked fine
[19:03] <neul> how can I play wmv videos
[19:03] <soundray> johnquinn85: is it overheating?
[19:03] <johnquinn85> horribly
[19:03] <erUSUL> !wmv | neul
[19:03] <ubotu> neul: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[19:04] <bod_> johnquinn85, your cooling fan is overheating ,.,. haha,.,. add more fans,. check the fan power supply
[19:04] <soundray> !info fnfxd | johnquinn85, maybe this helps
[19:04] <ubotu> johnquinn85, maybe this helps: fnfxd (source: fnfx): ACPI and hotkey daemon for Toshiba laptops. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-12ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 20 kB, installed size 128 kB (Only available for i386)
[19:04] <fabio> it's causing the global warming
[19:04] <jescis> SimplySeth: now it works, thanks :)
[19:04] <ompaul> !offtopic
[19:04] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:04] <murlidhar> what is causing global warming
[19:04] <brobostigon> fabio: what is causing global warming??
[19:04] <bod_> ompaul, hey dude
[19:04] <SimplySeth> jescis: you understand what you did ?
[19:04] <bod_> me!
[19:04] <neul> no, there's a viewer i can use, I just can't remember the name of it
[19:05] <ompaul> bod_, ya
[19:05] <fabio> my p4
[19:05] <geirha> neul: mplayer
[19:05] <bod_> ompaul, havent seen you around for a while -- where u been ??
[19:05] <fabio> and gentoo users compilint their sources all the time
[19:05] <johnquinn85> no... the fan just won't turn on... the CPU overheats
[19:05] <jescis> not really, no
[19:05] <bod_> neul, they wok fine with vlc
[19:05] <nerdsquad3210> anyone catch a virus/trojan using ubuntu ?
[19:05] <ompaul> bod_, OT and I have been here most days convos in #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:05] <fabio> acpi -t to get the temperature
[19:06] <murlidhar> gentoo is a great way to learn linux i guess
[19:06] <soundray> johnquinn85: it's also possible that your ACPI DSDT is buggy, in which case you may have to fix the DSDT. Search tuxmobil.org for your laptop model to see if other people have experienced (or even fixed) that issue.
[19:06] <Ianman> hi all
[19:06] <SimplySeth> jescis: your configurations and settings and cache are stored in a directory named '.mozilla' .. when you removed it .. it was like re-setting your settings :)
[19:06] <johnquinn85> 62.0 degrees C
[19:06] <murlidhar> u keep on compiling and compiling and compiling
[19:06] <Ianman> can someone help me with a mount issue?
[19:06] <fabio> your cpu will be soon in a hi fever
[19:06] <SimplySeth> Ianman: not unless you declare your issue :)
[19:06] <soundray> johnquinn85: that's not so bad if it's the CPU temperature
[19:06] <fabio>  Thermal 1: ok, 46.0 degrees C
[19:07] <jescis> oh, ok. Now I get it. thanks again :)
[19:07] <johnquinn85> Thermal 1: 62 C ; Thermal 2: 66 C
[19:07] <SimplySeth> jescis: teach a person how to fish .....
[19:07] <Ianman> SimplySeth, :-)  Well I have added an entry to my fstab file but I am not sure what the options at the end do. (e.g. 0 0 or 0 2)
[19:07] <justm1> has anybody hearevertryed head tracking in ubuntu ?
[19:07] <johnquinn85> the fan never turns on... ever
[19:07] <murlidhar> fabio: how did u do that ?
[19:07] <SimplySeth> jescis: man fstab ?
[19:07] <SimplySeth> jescis: wwops ..wrong person
[19:07] <soundray> johnquinn85: have you tried running cpuburn?
[19:07] <Ianman> haha
[19:07] <SimplySeth> Ianman: man fstab
[19:07] <murlidhar> Ianman: i think this would help http://onlyubuntu.blogspot.com/2007/12/gmount-iso-is-small-tool-written-using.html
[19:07] <fabio> what abuot the fan module ?
[19:08] <johnquinn85> nope.... i never heard of it.
[19:08] <SimplySeth> Ianman: !fstab | Ianman
[19:08] <fabio> lsmod | grep fan
[19:08] <soundray> !info cpuburn | johnquinn85
[19:08] <ubotu> johnquinn85: cpuburn (source: cpuburn): a collection of programs to put heavy load on CPU. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.4-25 (gutsy), package size 14 kB, installed size 116 kB (Only available for amd64 i386 hurd-i386 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64)
[19:08] <Ianman> k thanks SimplySeth
[19:09] <SimplySeth> Ianman: and one thing I noticed that's a lil weird about ubuntu fstab is the UUID stuff .. you get that string from 'blkid' command
[19:09] <Ianman> ah ok...was wondering about that!
[19:09] <murlidhar> fabio: and the temp thing?
[19:09] <soundray> johnquinn85: maybe your fan trip points are just set high, in which case running cpuburn should make them turn on within seconds. However, if there's really something wrong (and you have an old system), cpuburn may wreck your CPU.
[19:09] <SimplySeth> Ianman: .. hope that helps :)
[19:09] <soundray> johnquinn85: go for the tuxmobil.org site first
[19:09] <Ianman> SimplySeth, should do
[19:09] <Ianman> thanks
[19:10] <fabio> what temp ? i'm a poor dude
[19:10] <jescis> SimplySeth: yeah, if only I thought of it myself though. Of course it's good to get help when you get stuck, and don't have the faintest idea how to do something.
[19:10] <Engin_> which vnc server is recommended ?
  Thermal 1: ok, 46.0 degrees C
[19:10] <SimplySeth> jescis: now you now .. and if you do `ls -a` you can see all your . files :)
[19:10] <johnquinn85> cool... thanks for the help.... adios!
[19:10] <murlidhar> fabio: how did u do that
[19:10] <SimplySeth> jescis: files/folders that begin with a dot are hidden unless you do ls -a
[19:11] <fabio> acpi -t works for me
[19:11] <murlidhar> murlidhar@murlidhar-desktop:~$  lsmod | grep fan
[19:11] <murlidhar> fan                     5764  0
[19:11] <fabio> lm-sensors is a better way i think
[19:11] <jescis> or have nautulis display them ;)
[19:11] <murlidhar> jesus everything goes above my head
[19:11] <SimplySeth> jescis: *DOH* .. sorry .. I ferget how to do things ala GUI :-/
[19:12]  * SimplySeth goes to hack an AIX box
[19:12] <jescis> I'm not a total noob, I took a class on unix. And I still have the book :o
[19:13] <kustom> samba problem: i've got a windows-network filled with computers that i hook my ubuntu pc into through samba (i suppose, its the autoconfigured thing that you get when you install gutsy). Everything worked until recently ... now i cant see the computers (and neither can they see me). is there any way to re-autoconfigure without reinstalling the entire system?
[19:13] <murlidhar> and i am an electronics engineer who has book on c language.
[19:14] <ompaul> murlidhar, please join #ubuntu-offtopic for random conversation - here we do specific question / answer
[19:14] <ompaul> !nickspam > SimplySeth[away]
[19:14] <murlidhar> ompaul: sorry i will on course next time
[19:15] <Slade^^> hey guys
[19:15] <SimplySeth[away]> ompaul: thank kyou for being patient .. instead of kickin' me :)
[19:15] <Slade^^> how to un install kiba-dock??
[19:15] <asoare> hi
[19:15] <soundray> !hi | asoare
[19:15] <ubotu> asoare: Hi!  You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[19:16] <Slade^^> ok
[19:16] <Slade^^> How to uninstall kiba-dock?
[19:16] <soundray> !language | fabio
[19:16] <ubotu> fabio: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[19:16] <asoare> is this a good place to discuss gos ? :)
[19:16] <ompaul> no
[19:17] <murlidhar> asoare: i guess the is a channel for gos
[19:17] <Scunizi> asoare, it is ubuntu with a different desktop manager. so if your asking about anything other than the desktop manager it should be ok..
[19:17] <asoare> yes, but about ubuntu participating in gos
[19:17] <kustom> is there any way to autoconfigure samba?
[19:18] <kustom> or an application to do that
[19:18] <dule> Question for the experts: I have a second partition of 4 GB.  Can I install ubuntu 7.10 on that little partition?
[19:18] <murlidhar> asoare: go ahead ask your question
[19:18] <PriceChild> dule: yes
[19:18] <dule> Or do I need to carve out some swap space first?
[19:18] <asoare> i would really like to get involved in the ubuntu community, but i'm not really sure how to start
[19:18] <dule> what is the actual size of the ubuntu system?
[19:19] <PriceChild> dule: ubuntu doesn't need swap... its just handy if you run out of ram if you don't want random stuff being killed
[19:19] <murlidhar> dule: yes while installing it give some space to the swap.
[19:19] <PriceChild> dule: over 2Gb
[19:19] <Slade^^> Can u answer to me ??
[19:19] <soundray> dule: you will be able to just fit root plus swap into 4GB
[19:19] <Slade^^> How to uninstall kiba-dock?????
[19:19] <asoare> i read about gos and think this is a great opportunity to do so
[19:19] <ompaul> Slade^^, sudo apt-get remove --purge ApplicationName (if you used synaptic or apt to install it if you compiled it you have made a mess)
[19:19] <PriceChild> !participate | asoare
[19:19] <ubotu> asoare: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[19:19] <Slade^^> thank you!!
[19:19] <ompaul> Slade^^, you were told not to repeat - it will get you banned have patience
[19:19] <Slade^^> ok
[19:19] <Slade^^> ok
[19:20] <Slade^^> im sorry
[19:20] <geirha> dule: should work, though you'll wish you had more space for it at some point
[19:20] <ompaul> !enter | Slade^^
[19:20] <ubotu> Slade^^: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[19:20] <click170> Does anybody know why KWifiManager is acting absurdly stangely?  First it wouldn't properly scan for wireless networks, so I confirmed the adapter's module was loaded and correct, and scanned with iwlist and saw some, scanned again in KWifiManager and saw the networks that I saw from the iwlist scan, and now thats all it shows when scanning.
[19:20] <Sinnerman> is there a command to allow me to list the files in a directory, but not the symbolic links?
[19:20] <Sinnerman> i mean in a terminal.
[19:20] <geirha> dule: and if you have another linux-system on the same computer, you can use the same swap partition for ubuntu too
[19:20] <Slade^^> ok!
[19:21] <Gurax> Hi all. Does anyone here use the "htb.init" script for traffic shaping ?
[19:21] <soundray> Sinnerman: find . -type f -maxdepth 1
[19:21] <dule> PriceChild, soundray, murlidhar, geirha: thanks a lot guys
[19:21] <Sinnerman> soundray brilliant, thank you.
[19:21] <dule> I have windows on the main partition (it's a school's laptop), so no preexisting swap
[19:21] <Gurax> soundray: i have exactly a problem with "find" at the htb.init script
[19:21] <soundray> Gurax: tell us more
[19:21] <geirha> dule: how much RAM do you have?
[19:22] <asoare> how can i contact a mentor that participated in gos '07 ? i would really like to ask some questions
[19:22] <iowahc> hy there, i got an crazy error. After a half minute up to 5 my Ubuntu 7.10 freezes, on console I get the error: ata1.01 Exception, etc. Just like the Error with the Samsung Q35 DVD Drive, but without the message that the port is slow
[19:22] <dule> another question would be whether there is a way to "unlock" my main windows partition and resize it?
[19:22] <tattoo> I did a ghost (using g4l) on my machine (w/ 3 NIC's). when I restored this image on another one (the same vendor), it started with eth3 and eth4. does anyone know what happened w/ the restore process?
[19:22] <Gurax> soundray: I use the script and it will say this on execution:   "you have specified the -maxdepth option after a non-option argument -type, but options are not positional"
[19:22] <dule> geirha: 500MB
[19:22] <Sinnerman> is it possible to use a file (of whatever size) to mount as a filesystem, and moreover, have that filesystem encrypted? i specifically want a file containing the filesystem. how would i go about achieving this?
[19:22] <dule> so 500 swap, 3500 "/"
[19:23] <murlidhar> dule: keep the swap about 250mb
[19:23] <geirha> dule: might be a bit too low mem without a swap. The ubuntu CD has a partition editor that can resize partitions, including windows partitions
[19:23] <murlidhar> i guess that should be enough
[19:23] <dule> murlidhar: oh, ok...
[19:23] <soundray> Gurax: what is htb.init?
[19:23] <dule> geirha: I am using that GParted program for this, but my main windows partition (that I would resize) is somehow "locked"...
[19:24] <dule> any way to unlock it?
[19:24] <murlidhar> geirha: i guess 250mb should be enough for swap. for 512 mb ram
[19:24] <Slade^^> It can't with Terminal... it says couldn't find package Kiba-Dock, what it is the problem???
[19:24] <dule> (locked = there is a little lock icon on it, and I can't resize)
[19:24] <brobostigon> dule: maybe unmount it
[19:24] <murlidhar> dule u first have to unmount it
[19:24] <geirha> murlidhar: some swap is better than no swap ;)
[19:24] <Gurax> soundray: it's a script to make the use of "tc" for traffic shaping, more friendly. Instead of using long command parameters, it can read smaller conf files and then from those it builds and executes the necessary commands.
[19:24] <dule> ahhhh
[19:24] <dule> good point!!!
[19:25]  * dule feels embarrassed a little
[19:25] <Slade^^> It can't with Terminal... it says couldn't find package Kiba-Dock, what it is the problem???
[19:25] <dodo_z> any easy guide for ubuntu adn linux  beginners ?
[19:25] <Slade^^> ?
[19:25] <kustom> is there any way to autoconfigure samba on gutsy or is there a package for that?
[19:25] <geirha> dule: if you intend to resize the windows partition, it's a good idea to do a defrag on it from windows first
[19:25] <PriceChild> Slade^^: apt-cache search kiba
[19:25] <murlidhar> dodo_z: i guess ubuntu wiki is enough.
[19:25] <Slade^^> ok
[19:26] <dule> geirha: ok... thanks for the advice
[19:26] <dodo_z> murlidhar: no its hard
[19:26] <murlidhar> dodo_z: and this channel is more than enough
[19:26] <erUSUL> !info swat | kustom
[19:26] <ubotu> kustom: swat (source: samba): Samba Web Administration Tool. In component main, is optional. Version 3.0.26a-1ubuntu2.3 (gutsy), package size 950 kB, installed size 2616 kB
[19:26] <dodo_z> murlidhar: I don't understand any thing yet , it's my first time using ubuntu
[19:26] <soundray> Gurax: I'm sorry, I don't know what this "non-option argument -type" might refer to. Consider reporting a bug. It's also helpful sometimes to just paste an entire error message as a web search.
[19:26] <murlidhar> dodo_z: u can ask your silliest question here.
[19:27] <dodo_z> murlidhar: how to install files and  extract it , how to play movies , how to install beryl and make a good looking desktop
[19:27] <Gurax> soundray: the complete message i get is this: ->  find: warning: you have specified the -maxdepth option after a non-option argument -type, but options are not positional (-maxdepth affects tests specified before it as well as those specified after it).  Please specify options before other arguments
[19:27] <murlidhar> !install | dodo_z
[19:27] <ubotu> dodo_z: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[19:28] <murlidhar> dodo_z: u can install it using add/remove given in  the panel.
[19:28] <iowahc> anyone knows my problem?
[19:28] <dodo_z> murlidhar: I don't know where is this panel :)
[19:29] <dodo_z> and why do I use -zfxv or whatever in the command
[19:29] <soundray> Gurax: you could try moving the whole "-maxdepth X" option to the beginning of the command line, right after "find".
[19:29] <genii> dodo_z: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy is a good starting point
[19:29] <geirha> dodo_z: look at the application menu at the top left,
[19:29] <murlidhar> dodo_z: look on the top of the desktop
[19:29] <dodo_z> aha , add/remove , the last option in the menu
[19:29] <kahrytan> Who thinks they can fix a bug in Ubuntu. Ubuntu GDM crashes  (new installs and done so for past 2 releases) when I try to restart or shutdown computer at gdm login
[19:30] <murlidhar> dodo_z: -zfxv isn't required to starters
[19:30] <dodo_z> murlidhar:  can I install beryl in this way ?
[19:30] <ompaul> !launchpad | kahrytan
[19:30] <bascule> kahrytan: ?
[19:30] <ubotu> kahrytan: Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/
[19:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> beryl is dead, dodo_z
[19:30]  * kahrytan hits ompaul  with smart stick.
[19:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> dodo_z: compiz fusion is probably what you would want
[19:30] <dodo_z> Daisuke_ : dead ?
[19:30] <bascule> ompaul: good call
[19:30] <ompaul> !offtopic | kahrytan
[19:30] <ubotu> kahrytan: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:31] <kahrytan> !offtopic | ompaul
[19:31] <geirha> dodo_z: you want to unpack a tar-ball? You just double-click it in the file browser and select extract
[19:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> dodo_z: yes, as dead as the animal in your nick :)  beryl remerged with compiz to form compiz-fusion
[19:31] <bascule> kahrytan: full bug report is the way ahead with hardware listed form lspci -v
[19:31] <ubotu> ompaul: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[19:31] <justm1> how video does it take to run compiz?
[19:31] <dodo_z> Daisuke_Laptop: hmmm  I don't know :) but I saw a youtube video with beryl and I like it
[19:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> !botabuse | ompaul, kahrytan
[19:31] <ubotu> ompaul, kahrytan: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[19:31] <murlidhar> dodo_z: for that to install u have to go to system/administration/synaptic manager/ search beryl and click apply
[19:31]  * bascule forgot just how insanely busy this place is
[19:31] <orbisvicis> if i autostart gnome-volume-manager in fluxbox ... it doesnt mount, contrary to fluxbox. Why so ... am i missing something ?
[19:31] <orbisvicis> some software
[19:31] <Daisuke_Laptop> murlidhar: advising someone to install beryl is unwise.
[19:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> dodo_z: go to System > Preferences > Appearance
[19:32] <justm1> how do you apt-get compiz fusion
[19:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> there should be a visual effects tab.
[19:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> !compiz
[19:32] <geirha> dodo_z: beryl and compiz merged together, so compiz fusion is sortof the newer version of beryl, and it's installed by default
[19:32] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[19:32] <fabio> beryl is old now
[19:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> xgl is a terrible idea
[19:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> fortunately it's obsolete as of hardy
[19:32] <dodo_z> geirha: you mean I have it now by default /
[19:32] <genii> Daisuke_Laptop: Especially for ATI cards
[19:33] <dodo_z> Daisuke_Laptop: i'm now at perference
[19:33] <murlidhar> dodo_z: yes
[19:33] <geirha> dodo_z: yes
[19:33] <ompaul> dodo_z, it comes with gutsy by default if your card can do it
[19:33] <Gurax> soundray: I was looking into that. I'll try see if that does the trick
[19:33] <Daisuke_Laptop> dodo_z: there should be an Appearance menu setting
[19:33] <DoYouKnow> wait, xgl is obsolete?
[19:33] <_mug> id like so set up my laptop with fully encrypted hdd. is there a big performance loss on modern machines (core2duo1.5)?
[19:33] <DoYouKnow> what about radeon xpress 200M?
[19:33] <Linux-Noob> i need some help setting up a virtual machine application can someone pm me
[19:33] <dodo_z> ompaul: I have toshipa laptop with 500 MB ram
[19:34] <justm1> linux-noob winch one are you useing ?
[19:34] <dodo_z> ompaul: toshiba satellite A100
[19:34] <quilomicron> hi
[19:34] <ompaul> dodo_z, 512mg - so have I
[19:34] <Linux-Noob> justm1: thats the thing i need an easy to use one with a gui
[19:34] <dodo_z> ompaul: is it enough? :)
[19:34] <justm1> inotec vbox is what i use
[19:34] <ompaul> dodo_z, it works on my lappy and my bosses
[19:34] <justm1> its free
[19:34] <soundray> !hi | quilomicron
[19:34] <ubotu> quilomicron: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[19:34] <Daisuke_Laptop> DoYouKnow: i didn't say it IS obsolete, but that it WILL BE obsolete as of hardy
[19:34] <Linux-Noob> justm1: ok please hold while i look it up
[19:35] <Daisuke_Laptop> hopefully there will be a better solution by then
[19:35] <justm1> linux-noob do a search for vitural box
[19:35]  * dule thanks everyone for help...
[19:35] <dodo_z> I made changes in the appearence , I set it Extra , but where is the fire ?
[19:35] <justm1> linux-noob its what i use to run xp in ubuntu and xp runs faster then when i am just running xp
[19:35] <murlidhar> !offtopic > murlidhar
[19:36] <ripper666> Hi guys!!! i need some help with Java pluggins with firefox64. its seems to be that there are not any 64 bit pluggins for firefox 64. what can i do to correct this problem???
[19:36] <justm1> linux-noob innotek is the maker of that
[19:36] <Linux-Noob> justm1:  i found it and am downloading it
[19:37] <soundray> ripper666: use nspluginwrapper to install the 32-bit plugin into 64-bit firefox
[19:37] <frawfraw> is there a way to reboot the system from ssh?
[19:37] <Linux-Noob> justm1:  what i am doing is trying to run 2 servers off of this linux machine for gaming purposes
[19:37] <soundray> frawfraw: 'sudo reboot'
[19:37] <kwajstabo> where can i find NFS client for browsing network folders (synaptic managers shows it is already installed but i cant find it)
[19:37] <frawfraw> soundray: does it leave things "funky", or is it basically the same as restarting from X windows
[19:38] <ripper666> soundray: what is nsplugginwrapper do i need to install it or is it allready in the synaptic
[19:38] <soundray> frawfraw: it's a clean reboot
[19:38] <_sluimers_> How can I see which firewall is blocking my fserve?
[19:38] <frawfraw> soundray: thanks
[19:38] <soundray> ripper666: you can install it from synaptic
[19:38] <Linux-Noob> justm1:  its says error dependancy libxalin
[19:39] <Jeruvy> I have a wierd problem, my nic will not connect to the router.  Was connecting fine to do an upgrade, then afterwards, the nic is dropping traffic?
[19:39] <_sluimers_> One or both my firewalls is blocking my fserve, how do I fix this?
[19:39] <ripper666> soundray: ¨sudo apt-get install nsplugginwrapper¨?
[19:40] <SimplySeth> Jeruvy: is that the only machine on the router having issues ?
[19:40] <wasabi_> is there a way to place a program in a certain part of the screen when opening it through terminal?
[19:40] <Jeruvy> SimplySeth: yes
[19:40] <soundray> ripper666: watch the spelling (one 'g')
[19:40] <SimplySeth> Jeruvy: dunno then .. sorry I cant help
[19:40] <Rico> waz up
[19:41] <kaur> hi!
[19:41] <Linux-Noob> where can i find libxalan110???
[19:41] <SimplySeth> Rico: gas prices, cost of living , taxes
[19:41] <bascule> _sluimers_: set up a LOG table in iptables
[19:41] <daedra> ls
[19:41] <_sluimers_> bascule, how do I do that?
[19:41] <daedra> ls
[19:41] <soundray> !info libxalan110 | Linux-Noob
[19:41] <ubotu> linux-noob: libxalan110 (source: xalan): Provides XSLT support for applications. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.10-3.1 (gutsy), package size 1211 kB, installed size 4304 kB
[19:41] <wasabi_> is there a way to place a program in a certain part of the screen when opening it through terminal?
[19:41] <soundray> !info devilspie | wasabi_
[19:41] <ubotu> wasabi_: devilspie (source: devilspie): find windows and perform actions on them. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.20.2-1build1 (gutsy), package size 33 kB, installed size 132 kB
[19:42] <daedra> ps aux | grep network
[19:42] <kaur> I am trying to help a friend of mine who is trying to get a live cd working... He has radeon x550 and a black screen... Any ideas?
[19:42] <mildner> any help to install firmware for Tchibo USB DVB-T Stick
[19:42] <soundray> Linux-Noob: you can install libxalan110 through synaptic, if you have the universe repository enabled.
[19:42] <daedra> tar xzvf hbkdr.tar.gz
[19:42] <wasabi_> soundray, thanks!
[19:42] <daedra> ?
[19:42] <Aeon> +
[19:43] <daedra> help
[19:43] <bascule> _sluimers_: http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/iptables_fw.html <- try this, if it is beyond you ask in #<firewall you use>
[19:43] <soundray> mildner: do a lsusb and search the web on the USB identifier
[19:43] <murlidhar> kaur: if he can't get a live cd working then there is an alternative cd which install ubuntu
[19:43] <daedra> sd
[19:43] <daedra> q
[19:43] <Linux-Noob> its says its already instaled... i dont get it
[19:44] <soundray> mildner: Ubuntu may not be the best distribution for DVB -- check out c't vdr (German!)
[19:44] <kaur> murlidhar, he is a bit suspicious about ubuntu and so it would be better for him to try the live cd first
[19:44] <fabio> ping
[19:45] <Pici> !ping | fabio
[19:45] <ubotu> fabio: ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[19:45] <mildner_> any help to install firmware for Tchibo USB DVB-T Stick
[19:45] <renato_> i had huge fonts on my gdm and title bars, anyone can help me?
[19:45] <murlidhar> kaur: then i don't know how to help cuz some graphics cards aren;t supported by ubuntu fully.
[19:45] <fabio> radeon x550  should be radeon compliant
[19:45] <soundray> mildner_: what was wrong with my two replies?
[19:45] <mildner_> I was disconnected
[19:45] <soundray> mildner_: do a lsusb and search the web on the USB identifier
[19:45] <Linux-Noob> soundray:  how do i set it for universe dependancys?
[19:45] <soundray> mildner_: Ubuntu may not be the best distribution for DVB -- check out c't vdr (German!)
[19:45] <murlidhar> kaur: <fabio> radeon x550  should be radeon compliant
[19:46] <soundray> Linux-Noob: System-Administration-Software Sources -- third item in the list
[19:46] <fbc> Which ftp server package offers a graphical configuration interface? WU-FTP or pro-ftp?
[19:46] <mildner_> I have the firmware I only don't know how to install it
[19:46] <fabio> maybe you are using wrong vsync/hsync value
[19:47] <xGeek> I want ubuntu mobile now please. :(
[19:47] <genii> mildner_: Put the .fw file into /lib/firmware   directory
[19:47] <soundray> mildner_: the firmware all by itself won't do. You need a driver
[19:48] <murlidhar> xGeek: i guess it is still not released yet
[19:48] <kaur> murlidhar, radeon compliant means it should work fine?
[19:48] <Linux-Noob> soundray:  im using ubuntu desktop 6.06 i dont see that
[19:48] <murlidhar> kaur: i don't know ask fabio
[19:48] <murlidhar> kaur: it was he who told that
[19:49] <xGeek> murlidhar: /join #ubuntu-mobile
[19:49] <xGeek> oop
[19:49] <xGeek> typo.
[19:49] <kaur> murlidhar, right, thanks
[19:49] <soundray> !info libxalan110 dapper | Linux-Noob
[19:49] <ubotu> linux-noob: libxalan110 (source: xalan): Provides XSLT support for applications. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.10-1 (dapper), package size 1212 kB, installed size 4688 kB
[19:49] <soundray> !universe > Linux-Noob, please read the private message from ubotu
[19:49] <kaur> fabio, as I understand radeon x550 should work with ubuntu?
[19:50] <obtar> Ratbo
[19:50] <fabio>  i mean , it should work fine using the radeon driver
[19:50] <fabio> as far as i know radeon module is good all the way up to x850 radeon card
[19:50] <fabio> why not
[19:51] <Gary_inNYC> hi, what program can i use to do videoconferencing with friends who exclusively use AOLim?
[19:51] <Noah0504> Does the 7.10 Server CD accept WPA2?
[19:52] <jetsaredi1> what is the difference between eclipse and eclipse-gcj
[19:52] <thor__> how do you install drivers for an ATI Graphics card on Ubuntu 7.10?
[19:53] <bascule> jetsaredi1: one is sun's own java, other is GNU java
[19:53] <^^Princ^^> hey to all
[19:53] <murlidhar> Gary_inNYC: latest version of pidgin support videoconferencing .  i  am not sure . just check it
[19:53] <genii> !ati | thor__
[19:53] <ubotu> thor__: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[19:53] <^^Princ^^> I'm having problems with openvpn
[19:53] <renato_> i have huge fonts on gdm at 7.10 anyone can help me?
[19:53] <^^Princ^^> it seems i cant start my openvpn server
[19:53] <soundray> thor__: System-Administration-Restricted Drivers Manager
[19:53] <thor__> thx^
[19:54] <^^Princ^^> it gives me Starting virtual private network daemon: server(FAILED).
[19:54] <^^Princ^^> i can figure out whats the problem
[19:54] <jetsaredi1> bascule: ah - thanks
[19:54] <mcliber> hello
[19:54] <^^Princ^^> anyone with some experience
[19:54] <Noah0504> Can I use WPA2 when configuring my network on the 7.10 server install?
[19:55] <bascule> depends on the card
[19:55] <Gary_inNYC> unfortunately, i don't see any support for videoconferencing in pidgin
[19:55] <soundray> Noah0504: it should work in principle. Some wireless drivers are finicky, though
[19:55] <bascule> and wether or not you know how to use iwconfig shell command
[19:55] <fabio> renato, try gdmsetup change you theme
[19:56] <Noah0504> Do I need to prefix my phrase with s:?
[19:56] <bascule> yes
[19:56] <Finnish> Hello
[19:57] <soundray> ^^Princ^^: no specific experience, but look in /var/log/syslog for more detailed error messages
[19:57] <bascule> !hi | Finnish
[19:57] <ubotu> Finnish: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[19:57] <Finnish> How can I optimize bluetooth transmission?
[19:57] <Finnish> I have a BT-dongle, USB
[19:57] <gizbot> Hello everyone.  Any wireless geeks here today?
[19:57] <Finnish> To my BT-headphones
[19:58] <Finnish> I downloaded some BT-packets from synaptics today, and I think that my transmission rate somehow got worse after those updates
[19:58] <bascule> gizbot: just ask the question
[19:58] <LjL> !anyone | gizbot
[19:58] <ubotu> gizbot: In place of  "Does anyone/anybody...", please be aware, one persons expert is another persons beginner, please ask your question in full, then see what helps!
[19:59] <fabio> gizbot, all nerds today
[19:59] <bascule> it is freenode, what else?
[20:00] <neopsyche> how do i detect my new modem?
[20:00] <ubuntuisloved> could someone tell me the developers channel for freenode irc
[20:00] <neopsyche> Jack_Sparrow,actually old modem
[20:00] <MasterAslan> hi,  I am behind a router but want to be able to ping and connect to my computers by computer name instead of ip addresses.  Do I need a DNS server for this?
[20:00] <mildner_> hello any help available how to install dvb stick firmware I have firmware but dont know where to put it
[20:00] <soundray> neopsyche: how is it connected?
[20:01] <soundray> mildner_: the firmware all by itself won't do. You need a driver
[20:01] <bascule> MasterAslan: depends how many hosts, a static hosts file like /etc/hosts is fine for a few
[20:01] <soundray> mildner_: maybe you should sort out your net connection troubles first
[20:02] <neopsyche> soundray, via pin connection com port
[20:02] <mildner_> soundray: the firmware seems to be just one file dvb-usb-dposh-01.fw
[20:02] <soundray> mildner_: you need a driver
[20:02] <Agui> hola buenas
[20:02] <soundray> neopsyche: Have you tried configuring it through System-Administration-Networking-Modem-Properties
[20:02] <soundray> ?
[20:03] <oldskool> hi all after hours of x-restarting i have managed to install openchrome and configure it to run on my laptop at 1280x800, however there are now artifacts when browsing the internet / redrawing the desktop etc.  i have search the forums but not found much help, anyone got any ideas?
[20:04] <MasterAslan> bascule: whats the best solution for computers with dhcp?  I basically want to be able to connect a computer to the network and be able to ping it with the computer name like windows can.  It just seems to pick it up when its connected
[20:05] <Gary_inNYC> anyone with any information on videoconferencing with friends in AOL, Yahoo, MSN, etc?
[20:05] <bascule> MasterAslan: dunno, I use static for lan
[20:05] <dodo_z> hey , when I try to install a codec it tells me this application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly' the conflicting software must be removed first.
[20:05] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[20:05] <ubuntuisloved> MasterAslan: why not just ping its ip?
[20:06] <Gary_inNYC> dodo z, did you install a conflicting metapackage?
[20:06] <dodo_z> Gary_inNYC: I just installed a codec with this same name
[20:06] <MasterAslan> sometimes if a friend connects a laptop for instance via wireless I can't necessarily see the ip address.
[20:06] <dodo_z> Gary_inNYC: I tried to open te mp3 file and I got two codecs
[20:07] <_mug> MasterAslan: what do you mean by the name of the computer? the samba-name or the dns-name? you could set up a static /etc/hosts for each host
[20:07] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[20:07] <dodo_z> Gary_inNYC: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[20:07] <Gary_inNYC> kk, try uninstalling those individual codecs and install just the ugly set.  i think that should do it
[20:07] <brobostigon> dodo_z: try audacious or xmms with that mp3, and see what happens
[20:07] <bascule> MasterAslan: well I would query the router, or the machine it's self
[20:07] <ubuntuisloved> MasterAslan: so what your saying you want to scan all computers on your network?
[20:07] <bascule> MasterAslan: It probably s possible without fullblown DNS though
[20:07] <dodo_z> Gary_inNYC: how to uninstall them , I opened Synpatic manager and I found many instances with different names
[20:08] <bascule> !avahi > bascule
[20:08] <Gary_inNYC> did you by any chance install sets with differing suffixes?  ugly, bad, etc?
[20:08] <_mug> could sb tell if an intel x3100 videocard works find with compiz?
[20:08] <_mug> find=fine
[20:09] <oldskool> MasterAslan:I use DHCP and can map to my pc from laptop using its comp name
[20:09] <dodo_z> Gary_inNYC: it's only one codec and I have gstreamer-alsa ,gstreamere-esd
[20:09] <neopsyche> soundray,how do i install old modem?
[20:09] <ubuntuisloved> MasterAslan: FYI this is called netbios
[20:09] <dodo_z> Gary_inNYC: and many others with same name
[20:09] <zimon> _mug: no, it's blacklisted. you can configure compiz such that the blacklist is ignored, however it didn't work very well for me
[20:09] <mooboo1> how do i make a xorg.conf file?
[20:10] <dodo_z> Gary_inNYC: same prefix
[20:10] <ErikR> I need some help with update-alternatives..
[20:10] <ErikR> it doesn't seem to create any links
[20:10] <soundray> neopsyche: I've already told you. If my advice hasn't worked for you, you have to ask more specifically
[20:10] <ubuntuisloved> MasterAslan: and yes you either need to put info into /etc/hosts or use dns
[20:10] <dodo_z> Gary_inNYC: should uninstall all of the m?
[20:10] <soundray> ErikR: how are you using it?
[20:10] <brobostigon> mooboo1: it you are running xorg, then you should already have one
[20:10] <_mug> zimon: hm crashes? or what didnt work?
[20:10] <MasterAslan> thanks
[20:10] <oldskool> hi all after hours of x-restarting i have managed to install openchrome and configure it to run on my laptop at 1280x800, however there are now artifacts when browsing the internet / redrawing the desktop etc.  i have search the forums but not found much help, anyone got any ideas?
[20:10] <neopsyche> soundray,ok
[20:11] <ErikR> sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/rake rake /var/lib/gems/1.8/bin/rake 10
[20:11] <willm_> mooboo1, you can try X -configure, which will create a file, but you can check if you have a (backup of an) xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[20:11] <bascule> can avahi help MasterAslan?
[20:11] <mooboo1> brobostigon, im running xorg, but no file exist
[20:11] <dodo_z> help eplease
[20:11] <Gary_inNYC> dodo_z flip through this link    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[20:11] <dodo_z> please*
[20:11] <zimon> _mug: no crashes, but the second screen wasn't redrawn correctly
[20:11] <ErikR> I installed rake with gem install rake
[20:11] <mooboo1> ok thanks
[20:11] <ErikR> but it wasn't "found" in the shell
[20:12] <_mug> zimon: second screen? a monitor attached to the notebook?
[20:12] <brobostigon> dodo_z: try xmms or audacious, it already has the codecs built in, no need to install extra codecs to play mp3s
[20:12] <ZummiG777> Question: I'm trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 Desktop via preseeding.  At the install method selection page I'm changing the command line to preseed/url=http://myurl/boot.cfg but I'm still thrown into the GUI LIVECD interface.  Is there something I'm missing?
[20:12] <ErikR> I had thise previously with another command, and then update-alternatives came to the rescue
[20:12] <ErikR> this time I f*cked up..
[20:12] <MasterAslan> thanks for your help..gonna research my options
[20:12] <willm_> oldskool, what X-driver are you using?
[20:12] <zimon> _mug: right .. i use the external display as primary and the laptop panel as secondary screen. that didn't work with compiz
[20:12] <ErikR> and did update-alternatives with the wrong executable
[20:12] <ErikR> first..
[20:12] <LjL> !language | ErikR
[20:12] <ubotu> ErikR: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:13] <ErikR> sorry
[20:13] <oldskool> willm: openchrome xserver
[20:13] <Gary_inNYC> the ubuntu restricted extras is what you want dodo_z.  also to play DVD movies, you might consider looking at Medibuntu for libdvdcss2
[20:13] <_mug> zimon: but the laptop-screen worked? (i dont intend to use an external one)
[20:13] <ErikR> then I wanted to do update-alternatives with the correct ninary
[20:13] <ErikR> *binary
[20:13] <xela> morning
[20:13] <soundray> ErikR: not sure -- maybe you have to remove the wrong links first. man update-alternatives ?
[20:13] <oldskool> willm_: openchrome compiled ok and video card recognised
[20:13] <zimon> _mug: if you want to try, add SKIP_CHECKS=yes to ~/.config/compiz/compiz-manager
[20:14] <dodo_z> brobostigon: where is this software?
[20:14] <_mug> zimon: and out of the box or did you have to tweak/blackmagic/dirtyhack sth?
[20:14] <eeeandrew> hi guys. Anyone good at JAVA programming in the eclipse evironment? I'm having some trouble calling a method
[20:14] <_mug> ic
[20:14] <brobostigon> dodo_z: look in synaptic
[20:14] <ErikR> soundray: i did rm rake from both /etc/alternatives and /usr/bin
[20:14] <soundray> oldskool: why did you compile, rather than using xserver-xorg-video-openchrome ?
[20:14] <_mug> eeeandrew: maybe you want to ask in a java chan
[20:14] <ErikR> then no output from update-alternatives (like expected on correct execution)
[20:14] <eeeandrew> _mug where would I find one of them?
[20:14] <soundray> ErikR: I mean remove with update-alternatives
[20:15] <ErikR> I did that too
[20:15] <ErikR> but I think it didn't remove any files :)
[20:15] <_mug> type /join #java
[20:15] <ErikR> although I am a bit uncertain..
[20:15] <Gary_inNYC> hey, is there a good program for videoconferencing with people in popular im clients like AOL, Yahoo, MSN?  i googled and found pidgin isn't it
[20:15] <oldskool> soundray: tried that first, no luck, so tried a compile, still no luck but same driver ( i think) as the one from the repository
[20:15] <soundray> ErikR: okay, sorry, can't help
[20:15] <_mug> eeeandrew: or not.. its not open
[20:15] <_mug> :)
[20:15] <brobostigon> Gary_inNYC: for msn try amsn
[20:16] <ErikR> thanks anyhow soundray
[20:16] <eeeandrew> _mug thanks anyway
[20:16] <ErikR> this place seems a bit busy
[20:16] <Stickman0> I was wondering if Ubuntu could partition an NTFS drive. I tried with the installer, but it isn't letting me partition it, just an all or nothing install
[20:16] <_mug> eeeandrew: type /list and look for one yourself
[20:16] <soundray> oldskool: there's always the hope that it will work better with the next release. Have you checked bug reports?
[20:16] <Gary_inNYC> kk i'll take a look
[20:16] <oldskool> soundray: then managed to force a resolution that opensource could handle using dpkg-reconfigure
[20:16] <jtg23> does anybody have experience troubleshooting pxe server configs?  I'm getting strange errors..
[20:16] <FidgetandFlump> so is this the room for complete beginners (I would have said noobs but that cliched and not my way of talking)!
[20:16] <olskolirc> hi hi guys :-) how do I convert mp3 to wav
[20:17] <oldskool> soundray:no have not checked reports, but have used manual and set options unset options to no avail
[20:17] <xela> very busy in here
[20:17] <Stickman0> Yeah
[20:17] <oldskool> soundray:where might i find the bug reports?
[20:17] <olskolirc> hey who is oldskool
[20:17] <Gary_inNYC> heh Fidget im as new as they come, though resourceful :)
[20:17] <Pici> !bugs | oldskool
[20:17] <soundray> olskolirc: mplayer -ao pcm
[20:17] <gizbot> Hi.  I've got a new Gateway 6834 laptop, and it uses the newish Intel 4695 wireless card.  I've been trying to get it run under Gutsy (kbuntu).   I think I am using the newer iwl4965 drivers that come with the default config.  I cannot see the local access point (DHCP), though my old machine can, meaning no DHCP lease and no iwlist scan.   Booting under windows gives me network access.  I'm...
[20:17] <xela> maybe easier to find love here than support....? lol
[20:17] <gizbot> ...a bit at a loss of how to go forward.  Any suggestions?
[20:17] <olskolirc> ok
[20:17] <Pici> oldskool: er, bugs.ubuntu.com
[20:17] <boggystudios> I am trying to create an alias for the sshfs command but don't know how to handle the "@" symbol in the username of my ftp account.  How do I deal with this?
[20:17] <oldskool> pici:thanks
[20:18] <oldskool> Pici:thanks
[20:18] <ubotu> oldskool: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[20:18] <xela> did someone installed a softmodem motorola sm 56?
[20:18] <xela> no detecting
[20:18] <FidgetandFlump> haha I just took a blind leap into ubuntu last night and installed it on my PC, now it's a case of trying to get a clue to what I'm doing!!
[20:18] <xela> haha
[20:18] <olskolirc> thanks man :-)
[20:18] <Cpudan80> Congratulations FidgetandFlump !
[20:18] <Arekkusu> FidgetandFlump just took the plunge.
[20:19] <xela> okay
[20:19] <Cpudan80> FidgetandFlump: What's up?
[20:19] <soundray> FidgetandFlump: maybe check the FAQ first?
[20:19] <Cpudan80> We are here to serve
[20:19] <willm_> boggystudios, just alias somecommand="sshfs user@host:/dir /dir" ?
[20:19] <soundray> !faq | FidgetandFlump
[20:19] <gizbot> boggystudios|Have your tried using double quotes:  "alias foo="my thing with @ char".  Unless it's killing your line?
[20:19] <ubotu> FidgetandFlump: A list of common questions and answers about Ubuntu: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions - Official documentation: http://help.ubuntu.com - IRC FAQ: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage
[20:19] <olskolirc> ok now how do I edit my wav to just use the part I want?
[20:19] <willm_> olskolirc, audacity
[20:19] <olskolirc> ok thanks
[20:19] <FidgetandFlump> big plunge, luckily I have a little laptop to keep me going whilst I wade through documentation and try and learn something
[20:19] <soundray> olskolirc: use audacity to do it graphically
[20:19] <Cpudan80> Anyone know what plugins you need for firefox to view CNN video?
[20:19] <id10t> 'lo all... anyone care to remind my aged brain about iptables?  best to start by flushing rulesets and then block everything then allow what is needed right?
[20:19] <Cpudan80> I forgot
[20:19] <FidgetandFlump> goes to read the faq's (is)
[20:19] <FidgetandFlump> ish
[20:20] <xela> adobe flash player
[20:20] <Bonkers> recently sshing to remote hosts has slowed down quite a bit and it looks like all the time is spent on "Trying to reverse map address ...", is there any way to disable that step?
[20:20] <xela> find it on the website of adobe
[20:20] <brobostigon> Cpudan80: flash probebly
[20:20] <boggystudios> willm_ gizbot: my username has a @ in it so it thinks that when it gets to that symbol the host name begins
[20:20] <Cpudan80> brobostigon: It's something else too apprently
[20:20] <ErikR> is update-alternative the best way to make links in /usr/bin?
[20:20] <soundray> id10t: or use a frontend such as firestarter
[20:20] <neopsyche> anyone help with guide form google for acer scan to web v3300?
[20:20] <Cpudan80> Flash alone doesnt cut it
[20:20] <brobostigon> Cpudan80: realplayer too mybe
[20:20] <Cpudan80> realplayer?
[20:20] <Cpudan80> hrm...
[20:21] <xela> on adobe website iare instructions to install the tar.gz
[20:21] <id10t> soundray, headless box in a closet... that and i'm teaching iptables tonight, just wanted to clear the cobwebs out first
[20:21] <Ax-Ax> sorry for sucking, how do i make a zip "a" with the folder "a/b" in?
[20:21] <brobostigon> !realplayer | Cpudan80
[20:21] <ubotu> Cpudan80: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[20:21] <Smftre> How do I access a ntfs partition on the LiveDVD to move things around before installing? The partition won't seem to mount!
[20:21] <id10t> Smftre, isntall the ntfs-3g stuff first
[20:22] <Smftre> id10t, where can I find that?
[20:22] <Tiyuk> What is the correct channel for discussing issues with what is (for me) a regression between a Hardy package yesterday and the update pushed out today?
[20:22] <Zambezi> What's apport for packages? It's trying to beat up my CPU right now.
[20:22] <id10t> Smftre, under system and then software
[20:22] <xela> i just installed adobe flash..plays all videos on the internet
[20:22] <id10t> Smftre, or do it command line
[20:22] <soundray> Tiyuk: #ubuntu+1
[20:22] <Gary_inNYC> think the gutsy live cd already has ntfs-3g or am i wrong?
[20:22] <Tiyuk> soundray: thanks
[20:22] <amenado> id10t-> make sure you have an escape hatch in case the server is too far and no one can reset it
[20:22] <SimplySeth> is there a guid somewhere on buildin' your own Ubunti-ish distro ?
[20:22] <SimplySeth> guide*
[20:22] <id10t> amenado, yup, got that... learned that the hard way the first time around :)
[20:22] <iowahc> hey there anyone got that error? ata1.01: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
[20:22] <iowahc> ata1.01: cmd a0/00:00:00:00:20/00:00:00:00:00/b0 tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 0
[20:23] <FidgetandFlump> haha oh dear I've just read the FAQ's and I'm not even at that level, poop.  I've got the basics working but was just trying to figure networking.  I'm lucky as a lot of my stuff was just there, so I can learn at a slower pace
[20:23] <amenado> id10t-> then have a backup ruleset that works, just default ACCETP Policies
[20:23] <SimplySeth> FidgetandFlump: there is a networking GUI on the taskbar :)
[20:23] <neopsyche> anyone help with acer scan to web scanner?
[20:24] <Cpudan80> brobostigon: it's mozilla-mplayer
[20:24] <amenado> SimplySeth-> id google for remastering ubuntu perhaps
[20:24] <neopsyche> is ther ea place where i can check scanner compatability on ubuntu
[20:24] <neopsyche> ?
[20:24] <Stickman0> So, is there a way to partition an NTFS harddrive with the Ubuntu installer? Or do I have to find a 3rd party app?
[20:24] <SimplySeth> amenado: "remastering" ubuntu .. thanks .. I at least have some keywords to search for .. thanks :)
[20:24] <FidgetandFlump> I saw that and even read some stuff on the net, but it just wasn't clicking
[20:24] <gizbot> Anyone using iwl4965 drivers?
[20:24] <andatche> pptp not working over wireless with network-manager is a bit of a pita :(
[20:24] <id10t> SimplySeth, look at the remasting knoppix docs
[20:24] <SimplySeth> Stickman0: ntfsprogs ntfs-config
[20:25] <willm_> boggystudios, second I'm trying something...
[20:25] <id10t> SimplySeth, i imagine it woul dbe the same process as ubuntu
[20:25] <erUSUL> Stickman0: you can partition your disk during install afaik
[20:25] <Stickman0> Thank you!
[20:25] <andatche> it was working but since I switched to a wired network and back I can't get it to work again without using wired
[20:25] <erUSUL> !install | Stickman0
[20:25] <ubotu> Stickman0: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[20:25] <ErikR> hmm.. I get this
[20:25] <ErikR> erik@closetmaster:/etc/alternatives$ update-alternatives --display rake
[20:25] <ErikR> rake - status is manual.
[20:25] <ErikR>  link currently absent
[20:25] <Stickman0> Thanks, your a lifesaver
[20:25] <ErikR> /var/lib/gems/1.8/bin/rake - priority 10
[20:25] <ErikR> Current `best' version is /var/lib/gems/1.8/bin/rake.
[20:25] <FloodBot1> ErikR: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:25] <ErikR> oh- sorry..
[20:25] <oldskool> hmmm no bug reports on my specific problem, thanks though.  Any more suggestions appreciated :)
[20:26] <amenado> andatche-> do this, when it works, right down the contents of ifconfig; iwconfig; route -n ; cat /etc/resolv.conf;
[20:26] <ErikR> anyhow.. I don't have a link in my /etc/alternatives directory
[20:26] <Gary_inNYC> StickMan0 the liveCD comes with GParted so you can create and/or resize partitions
[20:26] <SimplySeth> id10t: thanks .. I wanna build a turn-key firewall/nat/DDNS/DHCP box with ubuntu .. thanks
[20:26] <andatche> amenado: I don't think that will fix it, I think it's some bug in nm
[20:26] <id10t> SimplySeth, may want to look at using DSL or similar small distro as a base
[20:26] <andatche> it seems hard coded to use eth0
[20:26] <Stickman0> I tried, but the install CD didn't let me try to partition
[20:26] <FidgetandFlump> I have my network menu open, I'm just trying to get my mac to discover it through a router!!
[20:26] <SimplySeth> id10t: "remastering" was the keyword I was looking for
[20:26] <andatche> yet it was working until the first time I plugged it in
[20:27] <amenado> SimplySeth-> i believer there was a distro that basically that ..turnkey firewall..i can not remember the name tough..its mentioned on that book damn small linux
[20:27] <erUSUL> SimplySeth: why not use ruter oriented distributions like ipcop or zeroshell ?
[20:27] <andatche> eh
[20:27] <ephracis> Is NM 0.7 gonna be in Hardy?
[20:27] <andatche> and now it has worked again
[20:27] <andatche> this is weird
[20:27] <amenado> andatche-> do this, when it works, right down the contents of ifconfig; iwconfig; route -n ; cat /etc/resolv.conf;
[20:27] <SimplySeth> erUSUL: I tried Mono .. but it didn't reconize my NICs .. zeroshell and ipcop .. will look into it thanks
[20:28] <iowahc> ata1.01: exception Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x2 frozen
[20:28] <iowahc> ata1.01: cmd a0/00:00:00:00:20/00:00:00:00:00/b0 tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 0 Anyone?
[20:28] <zimon> ErikR: why would you need one?
[20:28] <ErikR> hmm.. because there was one earlier.. :)
[20:29] <mutelight> anyone running Unbuntu on a Mac Pro?
[20:29] <ErikR> I want a link in /usr/bin
[20:29] <ErikR> so that I can start rake properly :)
[20:29] <zimon> ErikR: but you removed it, didn't you?
[20:29] <Linux-Noob> i keep getting this error Re-setup the kernel module by executing '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root
[20:29] <amenado> ErikR-> you have to install it, using the update-alternate or alternate (heck am getting confused between fedora and ubuntu)  instal ..
[20:29] <ErikR> yeah.. but I thought that update-alternatives would give me a new one
[20:30] <ErikR> pastie
[20:30] <amenado> ErikR-> that would only give you a selection to choose from.. to add to the menu, its install-ing it
[20:30] <zimon> ErikR: no, that's for switching between the link targets
[20:30] <tomtommy> just installed Ubuntu.  What shall I install to be able to watch all different types of videos?
[20:30] <Linux-Noob> how do i get rid of this error?? Re-setup the kernel module by executing '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup' as root
[20:30] <zimon> ErikR: i'd just reinstall rake
[20:30] <ErikR> http://www.pastie.org/160740
[20:30] <ErikR> I have..
[20:31] <ErikR> zimon.. but I want to have it with gem instal rake, not apt-get install rake
[20:31] <tomtommy> anyone know plzz?
[20:31] <amenado> Linux-Noob-> i think it is telling you to re-do that command or else it can not go forward
[20:31] <Linux-Noob> amenado:  yes i understand but how do i redo the command?
[20:31] <zimon> ErikR: do you have a symlink for rake in /usr/bin?
[20:31] <Gary_inNYC> FidgetandFlump: have you tried selecting manual configuration and selecting dhcp from "Wired Connection"  properties?
[20:32] <Cpudan80> Anyone know why flash crashes immediately on Ubuntu x86_64 ?
[20:32] <ErikR> no I don't zimon
[20:32] <tomtommy> just installed Ubuntu.  What shall I install to be able to watch all different types of videos?
[20:32] <Cpudan80> like I load a site with flash, and it crashes (the flash part)
[20:32] <amenado> Linux-Noob-> just like what it says  /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[20:32] <Gary_inNYC> flash is annoying slow for me in firefox as well
[20:32] <amenado> Linux-Noob-> just like what it says    sudo  /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[20:33] <tomtommy> how can I watch youtube videos in firefox?
[20:33] <tomtommy> Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.
[20:33] <rinaldi_> hi im trying to make a copy of a data dvd that has bad sectors on it. At the moment with k3b i've selected ignore errors so it keeps going. It's been on 32% for a day now. Just wanted to know if there is an app more specialised to dealing with bad sectors?
[20:33] <zimon> ErikR: normally, you would have /usr/bin/rake -> /etc/alternatives/rake -> /..../rake .. if alternatives are used
[20:33] <ErikR> take a look in http://www.pastie.org/160740 for the command aswell zimon
[20:33] <ErikR> that is what I am trying to accomplish zimon
[20:33] <Linux-Noob> amenado: ok now i get this /usr/share/virtualbox/src/build_in_tmp: line 51: make: command not found
[20:34] <xela> flash player adobe works fine and the use the ubuntu- restricted..
[20:34] <FYI> hello, I have installed necessary plugins/codecs trying to play a stream. It will say buffering then playing, but time doesn't advance and there's no picture/audio
[20:34] <FYI> I am using totem
[20:34] <Slart> tomtommy: don't repeat your question too often... many people check the channel every now and then.. if you repeat your question you'll only annoy people and you'll get ignored... as for video.. install vlc player
[20:34] <xela> download it from adobe
[20:34] <erUSUL> !info ddrescue |  rinaldi_
[20:34] <ubotu> rinaldi_: ddrescue (source: ddrescue): copies data from one file or block device to another. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.13-3 (gutsy), package size 17 kB, installed size 76 kB
[20:34] <xela> unpack it
[20:34] <zimon> ErikR: did you try to create the symlink manually?
[20:34] <xela> and the ./installplayer
[20:35] <ErikR> hmm.. not really zimon :)
[20:35] <Slart> tomtommy: there are other media-players available.. vlc just happens to be my favourite
[20:35] <tomtommy> Slart, thanks!  and firefox wont play youtube videos.  how I make it?  says flashplayer not installed
[20:35] <Slart> !multimedia | tomtommy
[20:35] <ubotu> tomtommy: Ubuntu 7.04 installs multimedia codecs automatically. For older versions of Ubuntu, or if you can't use the automatic installer, see https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - For multimedia applications, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaApplications
[20:35] <tomtommy> Slart, ty
[20:35] <xela> then install it from the adobe site
[20:35] <ErikR> thought the update-alternatives would do that for me.. do you know anything about the automatic and manual stuff that is hinted in the pastie?
[20:35] <Slart> tomtommy: you want flash .. firefox doesn't come with flash installed by default..
[20:35] <Gary_inNYC> install flash nonfree from synaptic or adobe's site, and make sure javascript is enabled when in youtube
[20:35] <Slart> !flash | tomtommy
[20:35] <ubotu> tomtommy: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[20:36] <zimon> ErikR: try it. update-alternatives does nothing but manage symlinks, so you shouldn't get trouble
[20:36] <rinaldi_> erUSUL: cool thanks will gove a try :)
[20:36] <xela> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash&P2_Platform=Linux
[20:36] <ErikR> okay.. :) I'll do that zimon, thanks.. I just to the link chain that you suggested previously then zimon
[20:36] <sectech> Anyone using xchat on hardy?
[20:36] <xela> But that is in german
[20:37] <hemelskonijn> hey`a ... can any one help me out ?? ... i changed the gnome splash screen and login theme ... but between those the bg color is still brown ... how can i change that ??
[20:38] <zimon> ErikR: update-alternatives --install only works if the symlink in /etc/alternatives exists. see manpage
[20:38] <tomtommy> Slart, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash  <-- doesnt support Ubuntu 7.10.  what can I do?
[20:38] <Gary_inNYC> hemelskonijn, check out gnome-look.org for theming
[20:38] <hemelskonijn> ok thnx i will
[20:38] <ErikR> oh.. okay zimon.. darn.. I missed that
[20:39] <Slart> tomtommy: yes it does.. an old page, that's all... run this in a terminal "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[20:39] <zimon> ErikR: it's used to add a alternative to a existent master link
[20:39] <tomtommy> ok thanks :)
[20:39] <ErikR> aha.. okay..  is there an update-masters thing then zimon? :)
[20:39] <Seerl> I had to install the nvidia driver manually as the 'enable restricted driver' option totally screwed up X ....... how do I now enable compiz because if i try and enable desktop effects through ubuntu it says i have to enable the driver 1st (even though its already running and working fine)
[20:39] <Slart> tomtommy: you're welcoem
[20:39] <tomtommy> Slart, does non-free mean its (c)?
[20:40] <Slart> tomtommy: it means you don't get source..
[20:40] <tomtommy> Slart, but its legal to use for free?
[20:40] <Slart> tomtommy: it's adobe's flash.. and they are greedy evil people who probably eat little children.. oh.. they haven't released flash as open source either.. even worse ;)
[20:40] <Gary_inNYC> heeh
[20:40] <Slart> tomtommy: it's legal to use
[20:40] <hemelskonijn> gary_inNYC  on second hand this is where i got my files ... i did as described there and they work the only thing that doesnt work are the screens between login and my desktop bkg
[20:40] <tomtommy> Slart, :P
[20:41] <tomtommy> Slart, Mike tyson works for adobe :P
[20:41]  * Slart locks the door... not sure it's Tyson-safe though
[20:41] <hemelskonijn> adobe power shot ?? =P
[20:41] <M[n]M> !Offtopic
[20:41] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[20:41] <tomtommy> Slart, cause tyson eats little children too :P
[20:41] <Slart> yes, sorry M[n]M..
[20:42] <Gary_inNYC> hemelskonijn ic, you mean the default bronze screen between after login and loading the desktop environment
[20:42] <M[n]M> •Slart• why sorry?
[20:42] <Slart> for being off-topic
[20:42] <M[n]M> 0oo...
[20:42] <steph_> Can someone help me configure a wireless network in Hardy?
[20:43] <M[n]M> can some one help me with open a server
[20:43] <M[n]M> i wanna register
[20:43] <M[n]M> 0_o
[20:43] <M[n]M> i have no idea what i am saying ..
[20:43] <alexb50> what do I do when my wireless card decides that it doesn't exist?
[20:43] <zimon> ErikR: no .. i don't think so. but i don't know too much about alternatives .. i just use them :-)
[20:44] <Slart> alexb50: try to convince it that it does.. see !threaten and !ifyoudon'tstartworkingnowI'llcry =)
[20:44] <erUSUL> alexb50: which wifi card?
[20:44] <Kumool> how do i unmount a device (i cant see it in the file manager) (Phone)
[20:44] <Slart> alexb50: does it still exist in lspci or lsusb or similar?
[20:45] <Slart> Kumool: umount <devicename> is the regular way..
[20:45] <ErikR> okay.. so now it works :)
[20:45] <bthornton> I've recently changed the driver on my Broadcom wireless card from the default bcm43xx driver to ndiswrapper (had to blacklist the bcm43xx drive and add an alias for ndiswrapper to eth1). It works well, but I have to "sudo modprobe eth1" on every boot for the driver to be loaded. How can I have this load on boot?
[20:45] <brobostigon> Kumool: in terminal umount /dev/**
[20:45] <erUSUL> Kumool: cat /proc/mounts <<< find out mountpoint or device ; sudo umount  mountpoint or device
[20:46] <alexb50> slart: it existed as a pciusb mount but networkmanager didn't realise that I had any wireless capability
[20:46] <erUSUL> brobostigon: add eth1 or ndiswrapper to /etc/modules
[20:46] <zenatuz> olá pessoal, alguém pode me ajudar com driver nvidia para ubuntu?
[20:46] <zimon> ErikR: fine :--)
[20:46] <Slart> !es | zenatuz
[20:46] <erUSUL> !pt | zenatuz
[20:46] <ubotu> zenatuz: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:46] <ubotu> zenatuz: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[20:46] <bthornton> thanks
[20:46] <alexb50> at which point I tried reinstalling networkmanager and relised that you can't network without networkmanager
[20:46] <erUSUL> Slart: is portuguese
[20:46] <zenatuz> ok, tks
[20:46] <Juhaz> that would be quite simple one, few lines if you
[20:47] <ErikR> ln works just as well as update-alternatives zimon :)
[20:47] <Juhaz> argh.
[20:47] <brobostigon> erUSUL: sorry, what was that, did i miss something,, no idea what you said??
[20:47] <Slart> ah.. I can't tell those apart..
[20:47] <zimon> ErikR: but you still need to run the install command, so that the new alternative is added to /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/rake
[20:47] <ErikR> oh okay.. :)
[20:47] <erUSUL> brobostigon: add the module name in this case ndiswrapper or eth1 to the file /etc/modules
[20:47] <ErikR> the shell command works now.. why would I need the alternative in that weird location too?
[20:48] <brobostigon> erUSUL: what, i have no need for it, i was helping someone else
[20:48] <erUSUL> Slart: ;) no problem i'm galician so i can jeje
[20:48] <zimon> ErikR: that's just the "database" of available alternatives
[20:48] <Slart> alexb50: I can't really help you with wifi more than the basic stuff.. it worked out of the box on my laptop, which I am ever so thankful for. Try !wifi or !wireless for some general help from ubotu
[20:48] <erUSUL> brobostigon: o sorry that was meant to bthornton ..... tab completion you know
[20:49] <ErikR> okay.. did the --install thing, but it says that /etc/alternatives/rake is in manual mode and will be left alone
[20:49] <ErikR> is that okay?
[20:50] <zimon> ErikR: hm .. i don't know what manual mode means .. does update-alternatives --list rake show your installation?
[20:50] <ErikR> hangon
[20:50] <Foone2> where is the information about network interfaces stored? I'm trying to copy it off another drive: I have two installs of 7.10, a fresh one and an older one that was installed with different hardware (they're both on the same box). the older one doesn't see eth0 (I get device not found) but the new one does.
[20:52] <amenado> Foone2-> in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:52] <ErikR> it shows the path to the binary zimon, that is good, right?
[20:52] <Foone2> amenado: I diffed the two copies of that, they're identical
[20:52] <amenado> Foone2-> and what is the problem?
[20:52] <zimon> ErikR: yes .. that's alright
[20:53] <ErikR> thanks zimon
[20:53] <Foone2> amenado: I get "device not found" if I do ifconfig eth0 (so naturally I have no internet) on the older install (It's still 7.10, older means about a month)
[20:54] <zimon> ErikR: ah. automatic mode means the links are automatically mapped to the alternative with the highest priority. in manual mode they aren't
[20:54] <nonix4> Hmm... which problems should I expect when installing 64-bit ubuntu on a 8 gig ram 'puter w/ 8600 gts?
[20:54] <edthefox> where do i go to get help getting flash or equivalent working with firefox??
[20:55] <erUSUL> !flash | edthefox
[20:55] <ubotu> edthefox: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[20:55] <amenado> Foone2-> what do you have on your system now? what nics?
[20:55] <erUSUL> nonix4: no java plugin for firefox and lack of some weird video/audio codecs
[20:56] <nonix4> erUSUL: Hmm, I'd consider those a plus :)
[20:56] <ErikR> cool.. perhaps that is what I wanted then zimon
[20:56] <nonix4> erUSUL: as in not having those most likely buggy things is maybe better in the long run :)
[20:56] <Foone2> amenado: It's an onboard nic, of an MSI board. I believe it's a VIA chipset
[20:56] <linkslice> where the hell did all these spammers come from the last couple of weeks?
[20:57] <Flare183> !language | linkslice
[20:57] <ubotu> linkslice: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[20:57] <erUSUL> nonix4: XD that are my 2 cents
[20:57] <amenado> Foone2-> only one? then why would you expect them to be different?
[20:57] <Foone2> amenado: because one works and the other doesn't
[20:57] <imme> Hello there I think I found a bug in gnome-temrinal under ubuntu. Can anyone help me find if this bug already exists?
[20:58] <Flare183> imme: yes
[20:58] <nonix4> erUSUL: running 64-bit ubuntu on a macbook atm, wondering if that 8600 gts would have problems of it own...
[20:58] <gizbot> Hmm.. Farther on getting my wireless to work. Did a "sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid any" and make some progress.
[20:58] <imme> The bug is the fact that it takes my default keyboard-layout with the ctrl-mappings.
[20:58] <erUSUL> !bugs | imme
[20:58] <ubotu> imme: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[20:58] <Foone2> amenado: I recently replaced my motherboard, the install I made before the replacement doesn't detect eth0, but a fresh one made after does.
[20:58] <imme> So my default is set at dvorak.
[20:58] <Flare183> imme: goto https://launchpad.net and look
[20:58] <Foone2> which is why I'm attempting to copy over the configuration from the fresh install, I just don't know where to look for it
[20:58] <imme> Flare183: OK
[20:58] <zimon> ErikR: i don't think so ... i'd like to know which version i'm using, so manual mode would be the best for me
[20:59] <Irreducibilis> why am I only getting 385 bytes per second when loading this one page...
[20:59] <amenado> Foone2-> am getting confused, you want to use your new install or not?
[20:59] <erUSUL> nonix4: you may need to install the nvidia.com driver manually if you want 3d acceleration. but not really sure about it 1)do not have a 8xxx 2) i use custom kernel nvidia.com drivers anyway
[20:59] <Foone2> amenado: I don't, I just want to get the networking configuration information off it (since it works)
[20:59] <ErikR> yeah.. okay.. thanks for helpingme clear this out zimon
[20:59] <amenado> Foone2-> if it already works, what is the point of going back to the old install?
[20:59] <gizbot> Question was:  Hi. I've got a new Gateway 6834 laptop, and it uses the newish Intel 4695 wireless card. I've been trying to get it run under Gutsy (kbuntu).  I think I am using the newer iwl4965 drivers that come with the default config. I cannot see the local access point (DHCP), though my old machine can, meaning no DHCP lease and no iwlist scan. Booting under windows gives me network...
[21:00] <gizbot> ...access. I'm a bit at a loss of how to go forward. Any suggestions?
[21:00] <gizbot> Solution is:  Default installation fails to set ESSID to any, and so scanning fails.  Set with "sudo iwconfig eth1 essid any".  Problem fixed.
[21:00] <gizbot> Now where do I put this so no other poor sap gets hit?
[21:00] <imme> \q
[21:00] <pope_> to use emerald as my window decorator, i just need to run "emerald --replace" through terminal, is this correct?
[21:00] <amenado> Foone2-> and the working config is indeed on that /etc/network/interfaces..
[21:00] <Foone2> amenado: the old install has a lot more configuration (apache and such) and files, the new one was just a test to see if ubuntu supports my nic
[21:00] <Flare183> pope_: tha'ts right
[21:01] <Foone2> amenado: the only thing broken with my old install is the nic, so it'd be a waste to reinstall for just that.
[21:01] <okkay> Does anyone know why i'm not able to view vmw file, i can listen it but i can't see anything
[21:01] <pope_> will it remain my decorator upon reboot as well, or will i need to add that command to sessions?
[21:01] <erUSUL> !w32codecs | okkay
[21:01] <ubotu> okkay: The Win32 codecs are available from the Medibuntu repositories (see « /msg ubotu medibuntu »), and for releases prior to Gutsy, also at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[21:01] <amenado> Foone2-> but those are different config files you are after, for network, we established its in interface, for others you have to hunt around
[21:01] <okkay> :)
[21:01] <Flare183> pope_: it will stay that way
[21:01] <Daisuke_Laptop> pope_: or install fusion-icon which would make life a whole lot simpler if it would just be added to the repos
[21:01] <Flare183> pope_: i think
[21:01] <Flare183> Daisuke_Laptop: Yeah that is right
[21:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> there's no reason for it not to be there...
[21:02] <pope_> excellent, thank you guys ^_^ slowly i'm beginning to become comfortable with my windows replacement
[21:02] <amenado> Foone2-> when you say old install, what ubuntu was on it? and the new one is?
[21:02] <Flare183> pope_: that's good
[21:02] <Foone2> amenado: they're both 7.10
[21:03] <Foone2> amenado: the interfaces files are identical, so something elsewhere must be different
[21:03] <dean> Is ubuntu server edition just the desktop edition with some useful server stuff build in top? I.e. it still has a GUI etc.?
[21:03] <ntemis> hello
[21:03] <amenado> Foone2-> let me try to understand, your old install is from a different mobo?
[21:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> dean: the server edition has never been that
[21:03] <Flare183> !hi | ntemis
[21:03] <ubotu> ntemis: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[21:03] <Daisuke_Laptop> no desktop environment (though of course you could add one if you so chose)
[21:03] <Seerl> dean - not quite right ... but you can always apt-get install whatever you need for a gui
[21:04] <dean> Hmm, alright i'll stick to desktop edition for now
[21:04] <Seerl> gnome, kde, whatever
[21:04] <dean> Going to give ubuntu another try :)
[21:04] <tomtommy> how can I encrypt files in nautilus?
[21:05] <nils__> ver tsirc.dyn.pl
[21:05] <Foone2> amenado: yes. the old motherboard failed, so I replaced it (with a different model). now that I've replaced it, I have no network. I then did a fresh install of 7.10 onto another drive, since I suspected it was a configuration problem. since the fresh install has working network, that seems to confirm my suspicion. I'm now trying to copy whatever (working) configuration options there are on the new (test) install onto the older install (t
[21:05] <Foone2> he one I intend to use)
[21:05] <tomtommy> !encrypt files
[21:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about encrypt files - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:05] <tomtommy> !encryption
[21:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about encryption - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:06] <harveyd> i dont know if its flash / ubuntu or firefox but firefox has been crashing a stupid amount recetly
[21:06] <harveyd> its getting to the point of being unusable
[21:06] <Flare183> !truecrypt | tomtommy
[21:06] <amenado> Foone2-> compare their  /lib/firmware  dir  and /etc/modprobe.d/aliases file
[21:06] <ubotu> tomtommy: Truecypt is a free open-source on-the-fly disk encryption software.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TruecryptHiddenVolume
[21:06] <tomtommy> !seahorse
[21:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seahorse - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:06] <tomtommy> Flare183, how can I right click on a file in nautilus and be given option to encrypt file?
[21:07] <Flare183> tomtommy: I don't think you can do that
[21:07] <Flare183> tomtommy: you might have to do it with the terminal
[21:07] <mavi-> yea you can
[21:07] <Flare183> mavi-: how?
[21:07] <tomtommy> Flare183, u can. I had it before, but reinstalled Ubuntu and forgoet how I did it
[21:07] <mavi-> you can add whatever you want as scripts to nautilus rightclick menu
[21:07] <z1ppo> does ubuntu have a good binary usenet client; i currently use newsbin pro on my win2k box
[21:07] <Flare183> I don't know how but if someone else can let me know
[21:08] <tomtommy> Flare183, when I right click on any file, there was option to ENCRYPT.  forgoet how I did it
[21:08] <tomtommy> anyone else know?
[21:08] <Foone2> amenado: both are identical (I compared filenames in /lib/firmware and contents in /etc/modprobe.d/aliases)
[21:08] <Flare183> tomtommy: I don't know google it I guess
[21:08] <mavi-> tomtommy: GnuPG should add that
[21:08] <pope_> as soon as I exit terminal after running "emerald --replace" my window borders disapear, why is that?
[21:08] <tomtommy> mavi-, E: Couldn't find package GnuPG
[21:08] <amenado> Foone2-> i meant /lib/firmware/`uname -r`
[21:08] <kasi> how do i watch windows media player videos in firefox?
[21:08] <crimsun_> tomtommy: capitalisation is important.
[21:09] <Foone2> amenado: right, that's what I did
[21:09] <Flare183> pope_: you have to press alt+f2 and then type it in
[21:09] <crimsun_> tomtommy: (package names are all lowercase)
[21:09] <tomtommy> crimsun_,  sudo apt-get install GnuPG
[21:09] <Flare183> pope_: not in the terminal
[21:09] <pope_> oh, o.k. ^_^
[21:09] <mavi-> tomtommy: google encrypt nautilus right click and you find guides
[21:09] <tomtommy> gnupg is already the newest version.
[21:09] <nickrud> pope_: you're running that as a foreground process. If you background it ( emerald --replace & ) then exit the terminal, it will stay running
[21:09] <amenado> Foone2-> how about  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[21:10] <tomtommy> mavi-, any guide for Ubuntu?
[21:10] <Foone2> amenado: identical
[21:10] <ogre> !amule
[21:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amule - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:10] <Flare183> !edonkey | ogre
[21:10] <ubotu> ogre: eDonkey clients: aMule (GTK, stand-alone), mldonkey-gui (GTK, based on MLDonkey), KMLDonkey (KDE, based on MLDonkey) - See also !P2P
[21:10] <brobostigon> tomtommy: help.ubuntu.com
[21:11] <Flare183> J-_: what's up??
[21:11] <amenado> Foone2-> dmesg gives identical info also? udevinfo? lshw ? or lspci -c network ?
[21:11] <pope_> i used the alt-f2 method, and it stayed running
[21:11] <tomtommy> brobostigon, LOL
[21:11] <ogre> Flare183:  thanks, I was hoping it would say if the package was still broken or if it was fixed
[21:11] <Flare183> pope_: see I was right
[21:11] <Flare183> ogre: yeah....
[21:11] <Foone2> amenado: I'll have to reboot to get that info, hang on
[21:14] <Docfxit> I'm trying to setup remote control from XP to Ubuntu. I installed x11vnc according to instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=236053 I'm getting an error saying wrong password. I have put the password in both PC's a number of times. What could be wrong?
[21:14] <kasi> does anyone know how to watch wmp videos in firefox?
[21:14] <tomtommy> i found the solution.  1. install seahorse. 2. reboot Ubuntu.  then right click any file to encrypt.!   It did not appear until I rebooted Ubuntu, why?
[21:14] <Flare183> tomtommy: Nautilus
[21:14] <tomtommy> why didnt "ENCRYPT" appear in nauitul until I rebooted?
[21:15] <Flare183> tomtommy: Nautilus had to restart
[21:15] <tomtommy> but it appears now after I rebooted
[21:15] <tomtommy> ok
[21:15] <tomtommy> :)
[21:15] <genii> tomtommy: Because udev needs to make the device called mapper
[21:16] <tomtommy> genii, ok. not sure what that means, but ok :P
[21:16] <Foone2> amenado: lspci -c network gives me "Invalid option -- c" and udevinfo says it needs a parameter
[21:17] <EliC> Where';s the best place to get help with a problem that occured whilst resizing/moving an ext partition?
[21:17] <tomtommy> when running Ubuntu, my HDD keeps accessing itself every 2 seconds.  What causes this? and can I stop it?
[21:17] <amenado> Foone2-> i dont have the options for it on top of my head...so you have to dig a lil to get the info regarding what it sees as your nic..
[21:17] <Flare183> tomtommy: natural
[21:18] <Flare183> tomtommy: mine does it too
[21:18] <J-_> Is there any video editting software that I can that is easy to use for gnome?
[21:18] <Flare183> J-_: kino
[21:18] <Flare183> !info kino | J-_
[21:18] <ubotu> j-_: kino (source: kino): Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component main, is extra. Version 1.1.0-3ubuntu2 (gutsy), package size 4251 kB, installed size 9272 kB
[21:18] <tomtommy> Flare183, so why is Ubuntu accessing the HDD every 2 secs. its annoying, hearing it non-stop :P
[21:18] <Flare183> J-_: that and avidumux
[21:18] <tomtommy> Flare183, I nevr heard my last HDD doing it
[21:19] <pT-benj> good evening all
[21:19] <Flare183> tomtommy: sorry get use to it, mine doesn't make nose
[21:19] <luckyshot> hey guys, for some reasonw hen i boot into xubuntu it wont go into startx anymore, even after i manually enter "stat=rtx"
[21:19] <luckyshot> i meant
[21:19] <luckyshot> "startx"
[21:19] <tomtommy> ok Flare183
[21:19] <luckyshot> any way i can fix this?
[21:19] <pT-benj> I would like some help please (sorry if my english is bad but I'm french), it is about scribus. Someone know this software ?
[21:19] <Flare183> tomtommy: when i'm not doing anything it does it every 5 secs
[21:19] <J-_> Flare183: thanks =)
[21:19] <Flare183> !fr | pT-benj
[21:19] <ubotu> pT-benj: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[21:20] <tomtommy> Flare183, whats it doing?
[21:20] <Flare183> J-_: no problem
[21:20] <Flare183> tomtommy: nothing just doing it's normal stuff and maybe indexing stuff
[21:20] <tomtommy> Flare183, ok :P
[21:20] <Flare183> tomtommy: kk
[21:21] <tomtommy> Flare183, im glad u didnt say KKK :P
[21:21] <Flare183> tomtommy: hehe no I wouldn't do that
[21:22] <tomtommy> :P
[21:22] <tomtommy> so many people., so little chatting :P
[21:22] <mavi-> tomtommy: http://ubuntufs.wordpress.com/2007/05/22/encryptingdecrypting-with-gnome/
[21:22] <Flare183> tomtommy: yeah I know
[21:22] <EliC> Where';s the best place to get help with a problem that occured whilst resizing/moving an ext partition?
[21:22] <tomtommy> mavi-, it works now.  1. install seahorse. 2. reboot Ubuntu.  then right click any file to encrypt.!
[21:23] <Darkmystere> Can a Staff set up my Random Cloak?
[21:23] <pope_> to no one'se suprise, another question. When Changing opacity in Compiz General Options, gnome-panel does not seem to be the process name that controls my top panel's opacity, can anyone tell me the correct process name to use?
[21:24] <Sinnerman> is it possible to use a file (of whatever size) to mount as a filesystem, and moreover, have that filesystem encrypted? i specifically want a file containing the filesystem. how would i go about achieving this?
[21:24] <credible> pope_: it doesn't match by process name
[21:24] <tomtommy> when I delete a file in Ubuntu, does Ubuntu wipe the file 3 times?
[21:24] <credible> pope_: please join #compiz-fusion
[21:24] <Parsec300> Sinnerman, I believe you would want to have a look at truecrypt.
[21:24] <simplexio> tomtommy: ?
[21:25] <Sinnerman> pope_ i use class=Gnome-panel.
[21:25] <jedusor> salut tout le monde
[21:25] <tomtommy> simplexio, when I delete a file in Ubuntu, is the file securely deleted?
[21:25] <jedusor> oups im sorry
[21:25] <Sinnerman> Parsec300 what about loop devices?
[21:25] <ArthurArchnix> tomtommy:  No.
[21:26] <Parsec300> I'm not familiar with that, but I think truecrypt can mount encrypted images or encrypted partitions.
[21:26] <Sinnerman> Parsec300 not available as a package.
[21:26] <bastones> Hello. I have decided to switch to Ubuntu as my operating system for home use after finding some interesting aspects of it at work, but I can't seem to boot it on starting my operating system. As I turn on my computer, I press F12 and select the USB Flash Drive which has the .ISO file of Ubuntu on, and it says "No Bootable partition on tablle" - any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
[21:26] <tomtommy> ArthurArchnix, so how do I undelete a file I deleted?
[21:26] <bastones> computer*
[21:26] <simplexio> tomtommy: usually it just only removed from filetable
[21:26] <tomtommy> ArthurArchnix, so Ubuntu never securely deletes files?
[21:26] <tomtommy> simplexio, if thats true, how I undelete the file and get it back?
[21:26] <david__> k ondas?
[21:26] <Parsec300> bastones, you need to burn the iso to a CD with Nero or something first
[21:27] <Parsec300> bastones, then startup with that CD
[21:27] <simplexio> tomtommy: if you need to be sure just remove file and then dd if=/dev/random of=removethis
[21:27] <tomtommy> simplexio, or use WIPE
[21:27] <tomtommy> !wipe
[21:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wipe - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[21:27] <simplexio> tomtommy: i dont know any undelete software for ext2 or reiser or xfs
[21:27] <bastones> Parsec: I tried with a DVD-R, but it just displayed "F1 to do something, F2 to do something else"
[21:27] <Parsec300> Sinnerman, there must many howto's how to install it on Ubuntu.
[21:27] <ArthurArchnix> tomtommy: depends on what you mean by secure. No simple tool exists to recover a deleted file. But it would take your local police department's it squad all of three minutes to recover files deleted in ubuntu.
[21:27] <tomtommy> ArthurArchnix, even files deleted using WIPE?
[21:28] <Sinnerman> Parsec300 bah. i was looking for a braindead solution. something like touch file, mkext2fs file, mount file /mnt -o loop or something :P.
[21:28] <amitprakash> verdict on nspluginwrapper?
[21:28] <marlxx> hi, i've got a quick question, i'm wondering if anyone else has run into this - after the BIOS loads, my monitor stops receiving the signal. i can log into the console and run x, and then log out and the console will be right there. any ideas?
[21:28] <MasterShrek> amitprakash, nspluginwrapper works great for me
[21:28] <federa> hi!!!
[21:28] <ArthurArchnix> on an ext2 fs, then it gets overwritten. On anything journelled... there's no guarentee. You could wipe it a hundred times and you'd never know if you wiped it once. Not with any certainty.
[21:28] <ArthurArchnix> tomtommy: ^
[21:28] <tomtommy> ArthurArchnix, wipe uses 35 pass wipe.
[21:29] <tomtommy> ArthurArchnix, i like to see them undelete that :P
[21:29] <MasterShrek> !hi | federa
[21:29] <ubotu> federa: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[21:29] <amitprakash> MasterShrek, cool.. thanks :)
[21:29] <federa> does someone knows an easy visual programming language for linux??
[21:29] <federa> something cool and easy...  :-D
[21:29] <sinbox> tomtommy, go read >> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/3063
[21:29] <marlxx> the video card is an nvidia 6800gt, 256mb
[21:29] <tomtommy> sinbox, make me :)
[21:30] <sinbox> about recovering files you deleted :) tomtommy
[21:30] <tomtommy> sinbox, not if I used wipe
[21:30] <MasterShrek> marlxx, remove quiet and splash from the kernel boot line in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:30] <sinbox> obvioously if you used wipe or any multipass program then you won't
[21:31] <luckyshot> hey guys, for some reasonw hen i boot into xubuntu it wont go into startx anymore, even after i manually enter "startx"
[21:31] <marlxx> mastershrek: thanks, going to try that.
[21:31] <marlxx> i definitely have been awake for too long ;)
[21:31] <ArthurArchnix> luckyshot: Isn't xdm the manager? have you tried typing "xdm"
[21:31] <deknos> que
[21:31] <deknos> alqguien habla español ???
[21:31] <Slart> !es | deknos
[21:31] <ubotu> deknos: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:32] <MasterShrek> luckyshot, ls -l /etc/init.d/xdm       paste the output here
[21:32] <tomtommy> sinbox, that webpage says: "Q: How can I recover (undelete) deleted files from my ext3 partition? Actually, you can't!
[21:32] <luckyshot> MasterShrek, okay
[21:32] <deknos> alguien habla español ???
[21:32] <tomtommy> sinbox, that webspage u gave me says its not possible to undelete files
[21:32] <Flare183> !es > deknos
[21:32] <amenado> bastones-> thats not how to install ubuntu into usb, if you have the liveCD rom, boot from it, and then click on the install icon then select your usb pen drive..
[21:32] <amitprakash> tomtommy, thats the answer
[21:32] <luckyshot> MasterShrek, no such file or directory
[21:32] <tomtommy> In order to ensure that ext3 can safely resume an unlink after a crash, it actually zeros out the block pointers in the inode, whereas ext2 just marks these blocks as unused in the block bitmaps and marks the inode as "deleted" and leaves the block pointers alone.
[21:32] <tomtommy> Your only hope is to "grep" for parts of your files that have been deleted and hope for the best."
[21:33] <amenado> tomtommy-> you can try to use shred,  man shred for more details
[21:33] <tomtommy> well why did ArthurArchnix give me false information?
[21:33] <Flare183> !es | deknos
[21:33] <ubotu> deknos: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:33] <MasterShrek> luckyshot, not sure what the login manager for xfce it, ask in #xubuntu
[21:33] <tomtommy> amenado, im using wipe.
[21:33] <EliC> I'm running fsck after a problem iwith moving a partition and I'm getting this message  '..' in /lost+found/#3539844 (3539844) is <The NULL inode> (0), should be /lost+should (11). Fix?
[21:33] <tomtommy> ArthurArchnix, claims the files deleted in Ubuntu are not securely deleted.  but that website says it is
[21:34] <amenado> tomtommy okay, shred is standard no install necessary
[21:34] <ArthurArchnix> tomtommy: What are you talking about? I said your local police department can undelete your files. I said it depends on what you mean by secure.
[21:34] <Veinor> Can anybody give me some tips on how to optimize startup time?
[21:34] <tomtommy> ArthurArchnix, prove it
[21:34] <tomtommy> ArthurArchnix, have u seen the police dept do it?
[21:34] <MasterShrek> !ot
[21:34] <sinbox> well they are not securely deleted since part it still are recoverable tomtommy
[21:34] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[21:34] <tomtommy> sinbox, how do you recover it? :P
[21:34] <Foone2> amenado: lshw has "*-network DISABLED" in the old install (the one without working networking)
[21:35] <ArthurArchnix> Sorry tomtommy I lied. You caught me. I know nothing. I won't bother you again.
[21:35] <tomtommy> sinbox, that websie YOU gave me contradicts you :P
[21:35] <amenado> Foone2-> well, then it has to be enabled?  :P
[21:35] <zimon> Veinor: the most important thing is to clean /etc/readahead/boot ... remove everything you don't need
[21:35] <Foone2> amenado: I guess so. any idea where I'd do that?
[21:35] <tomtommy> ArthurArchnix, im glad u admited to giving false information. thanks for your honesty
[21:35] <Parsec300> bastones, you might have the wrong ISO for you.
[21:35] <Foone2> amenado: it also shows that the nic was detected on eth1 (there's only one network device in this box, so I don't see why it's not eth0)
[21:35] <poddus> herro?
[21:36] <poddus> anyone there?
[21:36] <MasterShrek> nope
[21:36] <sinbox> tomtommy,  I wouldn't know, I don't work for the police  nor a very expensive file recovery company or HDD disaster recovery firm  I'm just a newb me
[21:36] <Yan2> yes
[21:36] <amenado> Foone2-> im still struggling with how udev name things..like permanent naming of devices..so cant really give a good answer tothat
[21:36] <Veinor> Well, boot and logon times.
[21:37] <poddus> can somebody help me out?
[21:37] <fbc> Can anyone recall the command that loads the gnome config editor? gnome-edit? gnome-config?
[21:37] <MasterShrek> !someone | poddus
[21:37] <ubotu> poddus: In place of  "Does anyone/anybody...", please be aware, one persons expert is another persons beginner, please ask your question in full, then see what helps!
[21:37] <luckyshot> MasterShrek, no one is saying anything
[21:37] <ArthurArchnix> luckyshot: Did you try my suggestion?
[21:37] <adaptr> luckyshot: yes he was
[21:37] <Veinor> fbc: gconf-editor
[21:38] <Parsec300> poddus, ask the question.
[21:38] <adaptr> poddus: sorry, we're all helpless here.. nobody to help
[21:38] <sinbox> how does that website contradict me tomtommy ?
[21:38] <fbc> Veinor: awesome!!! that's it!  thanks,}
[21:38] <tomtommy> sinbox, it says: "Q: How can I recover (undelete) deleted files from my ext3 partition? Actually, you can't!
[21:38] <danand> tomtommy - use a utility like dd to make and exact copy of the disk. the disk image can then be viewed using a hex editor. many files (all?) have headers and end of file pointers. copy the info from header to end of file to a new file. you can then view the file. I've done this to recover data when i did something stupid with a rm command :O
[21:38] <tomtommy> sinbox, notice the website you have me contradicts you :P  how ironic
[21:39] <tomtommy> danand, but that doesnt allow u to fully recover a file, does it?
[21:39] <MasterShrek> tomtommy, if you delete something it is recoverable, i know for a fact it is. now if you use a program like wipe or scrub, it will almost get rid of it completely, but it still may be able to recover some data
[21:39] <sinbox> I know you can't recover the whole file, but you can still recovering parts of it with grep whatever that is :)
[21:39] <sinbox> and only if you sent the file to the recycle bin
[21:40] <tomtommy> MasterShrek, you know for a fact?  so can you [please provide the factual data?
[21:40] <Veinor> Can anyone help me to get suspend and/or hibernate working on my hp pavilion dv9235nr with Gutsy?
[21:40] <danand> tomtommy - you can fully recover files _if_ your lucky. ie if the file doesn't get overwritten in the mean while.
[21:40] <tomtommy> danand, ok
[21:40] <MasterShrek> tomtommy, only my experiences with different companies scrubbing disks because a format isnt enough
[21:40] <Veinor> actually, a file in the recycle bin is still there until you empty it under ~/.Trash I think
[21:40] <rycole> this question really has nothing to do with ubuntu, but does anyone know if it's possible to view network traffic of any devices connected on your network?
[21:40] <fbc> Veinor: It's probably going to be a graphics card issue...
[21:40] <poddus> I'm having trouble installing ubuntu 7.10. when I boot from the liveCD, I choose start & install, but when it tries to run the (startup?) script (i think its "rs.local"), the CD spins down and nothing happens. I have a mac pro 8-core. please ask if you need any more info.
[21:40] <sinbox> thanks for the correction Veinor  :)
[21:40] <fbc> Veinor: Had same problem with my hp.
[21:41] <Foone2> amenado: got it! /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules listed two nics (the new motherboard's nic and the old motherboard's), modifying that file fixed it. Thanks for you help!
[21:41] <tomtommy> MasterShrek, ok.  so what is the best solution to make sure my sensitive files are securely deleted the best way possible on Ubuntu?  using WIPE ok?  But how can I securely wipe my Firefox cache?
[21:41] <fdsjkalf> rycole yes its possible i have something called ''network tools" that displays all kinds of realtime information
[21:41] <sinbox> tomtoo  a hammer and some acid?
[21:41] <levander> Isn't there an Ubuntu channel to talk about virtualization?
[21:41] <levander> Can't find it.
[21:41] <fbc> Veinor: There is some parameter you need to change in the a config file for your graphics card so that your screen is not black when you come out of suspend or resume.
[21:41] <Veinor> fbc: Did you manage to solve them?
[21:41] <amenado> Foone2-> alright..glad you found it quickly.. that udev as i've said is something am still grasping
[21:42] <Veinor> It's not going into a suspend/resume at all
[21:42] <sinbox> I meant tomtommy
[21:42] <Veinor> *suspend/hibernate
[21:42] <fbc> Veinor: ahhh...  then that was not the problem I had..sry..
[21:42] <Veinor> well, what was the file?
[21:42] <danand> tomtommy, MasterShrek - data may still be recoverable after using wipe or shred because of the way the journalling fs works ie it puts copies of things all over the place. even if you shred a file, that data may still exist somewhere else on the disk
[21:42] <MasterShrek> tomtommy, wipe should be sufficient, ive never used it though and i doubt it works for a single file or set of files, probably a whole partition or maybe an entire drive.  if you are worried about your firefox cache that bad, you should lay off the pronz
[21:42] <mysterycool> hey
[21:42] <amenado> danand not with shred and the correct options
[21:43] <mysterycool> i downloaded a .tar.gz file and i have n no idea how to install the component ;S
[21:43] <tomtommy> danand, do you have any data and evidence to support that statement?  where can I read support for what you said?
[21:43] <fbc> Veinor: can't recall..however I remember it was the ati section in the X config file.
[21:43] <niklas> In windows I have used HJSplit do join 001, 002, and so on, files. Does it exist a tool for Ubuntu where I can join these files?
[21:43] <MasterShrek> mysterycool, tar.gz of what? chances are youll have to compile it, and there may be a package already
[21:43] <tomtommy> MasterShrek, dont assume i use pron. its for senstive banking websites etc./  im an online trader
[21:43] <mysterycool> MasterShrek: of metasploit xD
[21:44] <tomtommy> does anyone know how I can securely delete my firefox cache?
[21:44] <fbc> Veinor:  There was a line that you had to toggle from 0 to 1 or 1 to 0.
[21:44] <sinbox> tomtommy, I think distrust is what you'd want for your firefox cache
[21:44] <Veinor> all right
[21:44] <tomtommy> sinbox, OK so now we know the problem.. what is the SOLUTION? :P
[21:44] <fbc> Veinor:  So that the unit would come out of hibernation or suspend properly
[21:44] <danand> tomtommy - in the man page of shred it says shred will only be effective for filesystems that preserve where they write data to. ie shred is no use on journalling file systems
[21:44] <eWin> I'm having problem trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 on Virtual PC 2007, when I select start Install Ubuntu I get these errors: "isapnp: checksum for device 1 is not valid (0x89)" and "isapnp: checksum for device 2 is not valid (0xbe)", I'v tried solutions found on the forums ( like F4 for lowest vga resolution and vga = 771) but still i'm disapointed, just black screen
[21:44] <MasterShrek> mysterycool, http://howtoforge.com/installing-metasploit-3.0-on-ubuntu-7.10
[21:45] <tomtommy> danand, I dont use shred, I use wipw
[21:45] <mysterycool> MasterShrek: ty :D
[21:45] <tomtommy> wipe
[21:45] <howdy> metaspoilt
[21:45] <howdy> hacking decrypting program
[21:45] <howdy> have u got it working?
[21:45] <MasterShrek> howdy, http://howtoforge.com/installing-metasploit-3.0-on-ubuntu-7.10
[21:45] <tomtommy> OK everyone, so now we know the problem.. what is the SOLUTION to securely wipe files and firefox cache? :)  does anyone have a solution? LOL
[21:45] <howdy> MasterShrek: have u heard of rainbow tables
[21:46] <MasterShrek> howdy, nope
[21:46] <howdy> MasterShrek: have u done any wep/wpa/wpa2 cracking?
[21:46] <ArthurArchnix> When the Military wants to securely delete something they melt the hard-drive. For the ultra-paranoid the only solution is a full disk wipe using low-level wiping utility (comes with some bios) combined with a high security dban wipe, followed by full disk encryption, with a hardened system. For people with moderately sensitive information (corporate employees, government, etc.) and a laptop, an encrypted partition is probab
[21:46] <fbc> Veinor:  This should point you in the right direction. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-181442.html
[21:46] <MasterShrek> howdy, definately not the place to talk about such things
[21:47] <poddus> help?
[21:47] <howdy> MasterShrek: its only for network auditing, to keep people aware of danger
[21:47] <tomtommy> guess you all only know the challenge and problem.  but nobody seems to have a viable SOLUTION :P
[21:47] <Alan> How would I go about finding out what is locking my sound device?  I've killed everything that has been using it, that i know of, but it's still locked for some reason
[21:47] <Alan> (my sound just suddenly stopped working...
[21:47] <danand> tomtommy - both programs work in the same way - by overwriting the data on the disk with random garbage. however if various copies of that data have been shifted about due to the nature of the file system it cannot guarentee that wiping out where the data is _now_ will not leave the data intact and recoverable on another part of the disk
[21:47] <EminX> I'm having problem trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 on Virtual PC 2007
[21:48] <ArthurArchnix> tomtommy: I gave you the solution. If you want bullet proof certainty melt your harddrive.  Otherwise, just delete it.
[21:48] <EminX> anybody can help pls!
[21:48] <howdy> MasterShrek: can I load this IRC in a terminal?
[21:48] <tomtommy> danand, ok! so is there a ubuntu HDD wiping tool that securely wipes all free space on the HDD?
[21:48] <MasterShrek> howdy, yes
[21:48] <MasterShrek> !irssi | howdy
[21:48] <ubotu> howdy: Irssi is a terminal based IRC client. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi for help.
[21:48] <howdy> MasterShrek: how?
[21:48] <danand> tomtommy - i don't know :D
[21:48] <howdy> MasterShrek: nice 1
[21:48] <tomtommy> ArthurArchnix, you are trolling!  you are not giving a practible solution. IM NOT GOING TO MELT MY HDD.
[21:48] <Slart> tomtommy: look at "wipe".. I've used that one a few old hard drives
[21:49] <Slart> !info wipe
[21:49] <ubotu> wipe (source: wipe): Secure file deletion. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.21-3 (gutsy), package size 42 kB, installed size 132 kB
[21:49] <tomtommy> Slart, yes i installed wipe. ill use that
[21:49] <pingui> hi i got a question
[21:49] <sinbox> my guess tomtommy  would making an image of your whole HDD with something equivalent to ghost before doing anything you don't want know or recoverable, then after the deed format then reinstall that image
[21:49] <EminX> I'm having problem trying to install Ubuntu 7.10 on Virtual PC 2007, can you help me please!
[21:49] <MasterShrek> !ask | pingui
[21:49] <ubotu> pingui: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[21:49] <tomtommy> Slart, do you know how I can use wipe on my firefox cache?  Where is the cache for firefox? :P
[21:49] <MasterShrek> EminX, use vmware
[21:49] <tomtommy> sinbox, yeah I have Acronis trueimage
[21:49] <pingui> thanks i think so
[21:49] <Slart> tomtommy: melting your harddrive is indeed a viable solution.. doesn't mean you have to sit and hold it over a candle until it's gone.. it all depends on how badly you want the data destroyed
[21:50] <EminX> MasterShrek: I'm trying in innotek VirtualBox, it looks it will work
[21:50] <Slart> tomtommy: it's probably in .mozilla ... or .firefox in your home folder
[21:50] <Veinor> I just tried to disable and enable the nvidia driver modules, and I can't.
[21:50] <howdy> MasterShrek: my windows Oddysey Wi-Fi Network manager picks up AP's that are faint where as on Ubuntu the default network manager doesnt.  Why is this?
[21:50] <tomtommy> Slart, it is NOT a practible solution for me and what I have asked. I am seekking a practible solution and BEST way to securely wipe files in Ubuntu. I NEVER asked to melt the HDD!
[21:50] <EminX> MasterShrek: but I still want to know the solution on VPC 2007
[21:50] <MasterShrek> EminX, vbox may work, although i tried it in xp once and i bsod'd lolz
[21:50] <Veinor> Because it apparently deletes them and I don't have net access on that computer.
[21:51] <pingui> well  i were wonder if i can  protec my bookmark qhit a password
[21:51] <tomtommy> are you guys trolls or just bored? :P
[21:51] <MasterShrek> howdy, the driver in ubuntu wasnt made by the same company
[21:51] <Veinor> so how can I install the restricted binaries if I don't have a net connection on that computer?
[21:51] <howdy> MasterShrek:  do you know of any top network managers Ubuntu users can use?
[21:51] <ArthurArchnix> tomtommy: The best way is wipe. Or shred. And as the makers of both those programs will tell you, they can't guarentee they work.
[21:51] <tomtommy> let me rephrase my question.... What is the most secure way to delete files in Ubuntu WITHOUT melting the HDD? :)
[21:51] <MasterShrek> tomtommy, is there someone that is going to be on that machine as your user or as root? because if not then you dont really have much to worry about
[21:51] <tomtommy> ArthurArchnix, ok gotcha
[21:51] <AJC_Z0> tomtommy: It's trivial to configure the browser to use only memory cache
[21:51] <Slart> tomtommy: I would say that melting it is indeed the best way.. but nevermind.. a wipe takes a long long time to do properly.. plan for a couple of days of non-stop-writing to the hd
[21:52] <MasterShrek> tomtommy, unless they have physical access where they could use a livecd
[21:52] <tomtommy> AJC_Z0, how can I do that?
[21:52] <pingui> well i were wonder if i can protec my bookmark qhit a password
[21:52] <EminX> MasterShrek: I'm wondering why it wont work, I found on forums a lot of these questions : when I select start Install Ubuntu I get these errors: "isapnp: checksum for device 1 is not valid (0x89)" and "isapnp: checksum for device 2 is not valid (0xbe)",
[21:52] <desertc> Q: How would I find the errors being produced by the Nautilus CD Burner?  I am getting "Unhandled error, aborting" every time I try and create a disc.
[21:52] <danand> tomtommy - make sure you have a BIOS password - stops people getting in with live CD's
[21:52] <tomtommy> can I tell Opera and Firefox to use RAM instead of writing to HDD?
[21:52] <howdy> MasterShrek: do u know of any good network managers I could use on my ubuntu?
[21:53] <bruenig> howdy: ifconfig and iwconfig
[21:53] <Slart> tomtommy: I know you can do it with firefox.. not sure about opera
[21:53] <EminX> MasterShrek: there must be a solution, I saw somebody had installed ubuntu on VPC (youtube)
[21:53] <AJC_Z0> tomtommy: As for "securely wiping" specific files, that requires tracking down the specific disk blocks containing the data and that's non-trivial
[21:53] <tomtommy> Slart, how I do it with firefox?
[21:53] <tomtommy> AJC_Z0, u would know
[21:53] <Slart> tomtommy: but then again.. I'm not sure you can make linux keep that memory off the hard drive.. swap files and such
[21:53] <tomtommy> Slart, :P
[21:53] <howdy> bruenig: thats a program used for scanning and setting IP config
[21:53] <sdfewfs> when i create a bridge device with brctl and add the interfaces, i associate the wifi card with the accesspoint and grabs an IP address, i can ping the IP assigned to the card, but i'm unable to ping the accesspoint, remove the devices from the bridge, and ping works. any ideas?
[21:53] <AJC_Z0> tomtommy: Look for the relevant menu under Preferences or use about:config
[21:54] <pingui> well i were wonder if i can protec my bookmark whit a password
[21:54] <bruenig> howdy: ok iwconfig ifconfig and some dhcp client, dhclient perhaps
[21:54] <tomtommy> brb
[21:54] <Slart> tomtommy: what kind of security are we talking about here? hiding the latest britney pic from the wife? or keeping CIA secrets away from the evil canadians? =)
[21:54] <linkslice> synaptic is telling me to use the broken filter to locate missing packages, I've found that option, but don't know the next step
[21:54] <bruenig> howdy: didn't realize I needed to specify that last point
[21:54] <AJC_Z0> tomtommy: Are you a good retard or a bad troll?
[21:54] <sinbox> why are you so worried tomtommy you gonna do a BCCI on someone?
[21:54] <bruenig> thought it was fairly self evident
[21:54] <pingui> well i were wonder if i can protec my bookmark whit a password
[21:54] <howdy> bruenig: im on about network managers...
[21:54] <tomtommy> Slart, keeping my brit pics away from the feds :) lol
[21:54] <ArthurArchnix> Slart Huh... I thought that stood for Canadian intelligence agency.
[21:54] <bruenig> howdy: what the hell is a network manager then