[15:36] <sharkmap> vuongdothanhhuy: thanks. I will stress test it tonight!
[15:37] <sharkmap> LOL
[15:37] <vuongdothanhhuy> sharkmap: watch out for overtemp. too ;)
[15:37]  * clixsense hi
[15:37] <sharkmap> right!
[15:37] <vuongdothanhhuy> dont cook your CPU
[15:37] <Seveas> hello clixsense, how may we help you today?
[15:38]  * esing123 re
[15:38] <deitarion> I got apt wedged where trying to do anything results in a request for `apt-get -f install` but that fails because I need to remove a package to avoid an installed file conflict (which it refuses to do because I need to `apt-get -f install`).
[15:38]  * clixsense join http://www.clixsense.com/?4005905 and click and task and win very much
[15:38] <esing123> can i skip setting security = user if I dont want to enter a password/username when entering my samba shared folder through the network ?
[15:39] <ForgeAus> thats interesting what happened to ibcs? is it still around?
[15:39] <bairui> hi, (ubuntu 12.04, unity) when I use the Super key for navigating between desktops, the small mini-desktop overlay stays in the middle of the screen until I press Escape or Enter. Is there a way to have it disappear (as it does with the default ctrl-alt-[left/etc] maps)?
[15:39] <deitarion> I'm used to Gentoo and Portage. How do I either tell dpkg to just *#$@ing overwrite the file from the package or tell apt-get that I know what I'm doing and it should mind its own business and remove the one package before I `apt-get -f install`?
[15:40] <ForgeAus> deitarion uh normally packages come as an "atomic" unit, apt-get install "package" usually replaces whatever was there with the package version
[15:40] <ForgeAus> I think
[15:40] <Seveas> deitarion, can you do apt-get -f install and pastebin the output?
[15:40] <hangdeadman> On my laptop in ubuntu 12.04 I can click the bottom right side of my mouse pad to open a menu. is there a way to configure the botom middle to middle- click?
[15:40] <KRomo> i just ealized my processor is almost 5 years old lol and ubuntu runs great...windows did too but ubuntu makes it feel new
[15:40] <Seveas> (yes, it'll fail, I want to see the exact failure)
[15:41] <deitarion> Seveas: Tricky. The machine with the problem has no IRC client.
[15:41] <ForgeAus> KRomo yeah linux has a way of doing that occasionally :)
[15:42] <deitarion> ForgeAus: A word of advice. Don't try installing GIMP 2.8 from the PPA using "upgrade" rather than "remove ... && install ...". It'll get wedged refusing to upgrade gimp because there's a version conflict with the old gimp-plugin-repository and refusing to remove gimp-plugin-repository until you fix the dependencies of the other gimp plugins.
[15:42] <KRomo> i used to upgrade every 2-3 years but this cpu is 5 years old and i have no plans for an upgrade
[15:42] <KRomo> bravo ubuntu :)
[15:42] <Seveas> deitarion, pastebin urls are easy to copy manually :)
[15:42] <ForgeAus> deitarion fair enough I'm not much of a Gimp fan anyway... but I do wish you good luck
[15:42] <deitarion> Seveas: Copy manually how?
[15:42] <xubuntu5> what's better than gimp?
[15:43] <deitarion> Seveas: ...oh, wait. You mean manually write it down and key it in on this machine?
[15:43] <Seveas> deitarion, you type it in...
[15:43] <ForgeAus> deitarion if you really want to remove a package properly apt-get has a purge keyword to instead of remove
[15:43] <Seveas> deitarion, yeah, paste the error on pastebin.com, and give us the resulting url
[15:43] <deitarion> ForgeAus: No different. I tried "remove", "purge", and "autoremove". All refuse to do anything until "apt-get -f install" completes successfully.
[15:43] <Seveas> ForgeAus, well, that won't work as long as apt is wedged
[15:43] <deitarion> Seveas: One sec.
[15:44] <hangdeadman> On my laptop in ubuntu 12.04 I can click the bottom right side of my mouse pad to open a menu. is there a way to configure the botom middle to middle- click?
[15:44] <xubuntu5> is it possible to install apt-get on a different distro and load the ubuntu repos?
[15:44] <ForgeAus> Seveas wedged?
[15:44] <ForgeAus> yes xubuntu
[15:44] <ForgeAus> but its not necessarily a good idea
[15:44] <xubuntu5> ahh true
[15:44] <Seveas> ForgeAus, scroll up and read deitarion's problem :)
[15:44] <ForgeAus> you can do that with a chroot environment for example
[15:44] <Seveas> I call that wedged
[15:45] <esing123> can i skip setting security = user if I dont want to enter a password/username when entering my samba shared folder through the network ?
[15:45] <ForgeAus> Seveas does he have broken packages?
[15:45] <esing123> i do not see my samba shared directoy from my windows PC in network section, why that ?
[15:46] <vuongdothanhhuy> check the permission?
[15:46] <Seveas> ForgeAus, dunno, that's why I asked him to pastebin
[15:46] <Seveas> Troubleshooting 101: the more info, the better. Don't guess
[15:46] <esing123> vuongdothanhhuy i set the permission with chown
[15:47] <ForgeAus> shouldn't he do a sudo dpkg --configure -a  (I think thats the line something like that ... )
[15:47] <Seveas> ForgeAus, it all depends on what state apt is in.
[15:47] <Seveas> (not a bad suggestion though)
[15:47] <ForgeAus> ok you seem to have it in hand :)
[15:48] <ForgeAus> I can see how its kinda frustrating coming from Gentoo though
[15:48] <esing123> I set the permission with sudo chown nobody.nogroup /home/*****
[15:48] <ForgeAus> not that I have much experience with gentoo beyond a prefix here or there
[15:48] <ForgeAus> but I did get a taste of portage that way  :) ...
[15:49] <Seveas> I have enough experience with gentoo to say "never again" :)
[15:49] <ForgeAus> Seveas my current kubuntu has a prefix :) so I can't go there with you I'm afraid :)
[15:50] <esing123> maybe I installed wrong samba ?
[15:50] <esing123> I installed sudo apt-get install samba
[15:50] <esing123> but I also read about sudo apt-get install samba4
[15:50] <deitarion> Seveas: http://pastebin.com/mYrYS55T
[15:50] <esing123> is that the reason?
[15:50] <ForgeAus> esing123 probably not, what are you trying to do? maybe you didn't configure the .conf file or have software to set up stuff like your workgroup instead?
[15:50] <vuongdothanhhuy> anyone help esing123? I have no experience on that topic. I use SFTP :D
[15:50] <ikt> esing123, no, samba is a pain in general
[15:51] <ikt> can you access your shared files from windows by typing in the ip address?
[15:52] <Seveas> deitarion, oh, it's not too bad. Let's remove gimp entirely: sudo dpkg -P gimp gimp-data gimp-plugin-registry
[15:52] <esing123> forge i put workgroup = WORKGROUP and I also entered the share dir into the conf. file
[15:52] <vuongdothanhhuy> if you use linux, why dont forget anything related to Linux. We can use SSH instead. Or even SFTP/FTP, then you can mount the FTP to Windows Explorer.
[15:52] <deitarion> Seveas: Thanks. "dpkg -P" is what I was looking for.
[15:52] <Seveas> deitarion, add libgimp2.0 to that list (you want them all in one command)
[15:53] <esing123> ikl i try that sec
[15:54] <Seveas> vuongdothanhhuy, likewise. It's been a few years since I had to do samba.
[15:54] <vinu> Hi, i accidently deleted partions of some drives, but it contain some important datas, can any1 please help in recovering that.
[15:54] <deitarion> Never mind. "dpkg -P" is refusing to remove those unless I manually copy-paste a list of packages that depend on them. How do I go one level lower and rip out the packages without even examining dependencies so I can then `dpkg -i` the new .debs without dpkg complaining about file conflicts?
[15:55] <sate> Does someone know the error: "Inconsistency detected by ld.so: ../sysdeps/x86_64/dl-machine.h: 460: elf_machine_rela_relative: Assertion `((reloc->r_info) & 0xffffffff) == 8' failed!"? I got this by trying to open rhythmbox, the softwarecenter, the system configurations I guess, too, because nothing of all this works
[15:55] <dsnyders> vinu, you can try a program called testdisk
[15:55] <Seveas> deitarion, hmm, there shouldn't be that many dependencies. Can you pastebin the output?
[15:56] <Seveas> deitarion, one thing you can do is find the .deb files for the older version on archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gimp/ and dpkg -i those
[15:56] <vinu> k im trying, bt im not able to access the drives, still can i get the data's back?
[15:56] <deitarion> Seveas: It's my mother's laptop. She has a lot of GIMP plugins... and, to be honest, I'd find it less grating to reinstall the system from my Lubuntu Precise disk (12.04) than to run back and forth manually copying pastebin URLs.
[15:57] <Seveas> deitarion, fair enough. Try the trick with the older .deb files though
[15:57] <user101> i have a vmware image of ubuntu 11.10 server, i'm unable to ssh, it cuold be iptables?
[15:57] <Seveas> user101, did you install openssh-server on it?
[15:57] <deitarion> Also, this is starting to feel like those "Ask the administrator." "But I am the administrator!" exchanges I remember from my Windows years. As a matter of principle, I insist on finding a (or writing my own) command to rip out packages without regard for dependency relations.
[15:58] <deitarion> I don't feel like being dependent on old packages still existing somewhere.
[15:58] <Seveas> deitarion, yeah, dpkg can do that with --force-depends, but more problems lie that route
[15:58] <user101> Seveas, yes, at one point worked, then i think i update the system and don't work anymore, if i ping <IP_ADDRESS> give to me that respond <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:59] <user101> if i ssh .57 don't work
[15:59] <user101> .2 neither
[15:59] <deitarion> Seveas: I've got all the new depends in /var/cache. The only problem is that the old version of one package has a file in common with the new version of a different one.
[15:59] <Seveas> deitarion, well, --force-depends may just help you there
[16:00] <deitarion> I'll give it a try. I'd rather risk it and learn from it and maybe have to spend 25 minutes waiting on a Lubuntu Precise install disk to do its job than dance to the broken instructions of a program dumber than I am.
[16:00]  * esing re
[16:01] <esing> ikl i tried to enter the linux samba through its ip , but it doesnt work either
[16:01] <vinu> How to use testdisk?
[16:02] <esing> vuongdothanhhuy will it also be able to have a symbol link on desktop or a bound network drive for the SSH/FTP solution?
[16:03] <Seveas> vinu, man testdisk
[16:03] <Seveas> that'll help you find out
[16:04] <vinu> how to work on that? I dnt know how to use it.
[16:04] <esing> vuongdothanhhuy so i prolly try SFTP or SSH out if it's doing the job either :-)
[16:06] <deitarion> Seveas: There. That fixed it. Say what you will about Gentoo's Portage (Dependency calculation is slow, no binary packages), but it's miles ahead of apt in a lot of ways (package DB doesn't hold an exclusive lock for the entire course of an install, clear "big red warning" mechanism for ripping out packages if you really know what you're doing, greatly superior 3rd-party alternative to apt-cache search, etc.).
[16:07] <kate_r> hi
[16:07] <kate_r> what default fonts are you guys using? i don't quite like the default Ubuntu font.
[16:07] <deitarion> kate_r: What about it don't you like? (I use it, but I might be able to suggest something closer to your specs)
[16:07] <dsnyders> Dr_Willis, http://www.acurite.com/acu-link-internet-bridge-for-acurite-weather-sensors-ethernet-09150trx.html looks interesting.
[16:08] <kate_r> dsnyders, hmm i think i find it too thin
[16:08] <ForgeAus> deitarion yes well portage is more flexible than apt-get ... I'll give you that, but I don't find I need that much in most cases...
[16:08] <ForgeAus> deitarion I'm not saying either is better or worse ...
[16:08] <vinu> Hello can anyone help!
[16:09] <deitarion> ForgeAus: apt is undeniably worse if it took this long just for Synaptic to be able to let you browse your packages while apt-get is performing an install in a terminal window.
[16:09] <mirak> hi
[16:09] <ForgeAus> uh while apt-get is functioning/installing you shouldn't be using anything to browse packages
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> vinu  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=387922
[16:10] <mirak> is there a way to backup / partition before an upgrade, but without needing to boot into a live cd
[16:10] <mirak> ?
[16:10] <deitarion> ForgeAus: I rest my case. Not only can you browse packages while installing/removing with emerge, you can run multiple install/remove processes in parallel and, 99% of the time, the only problem you'll cause is sub-optimal use of resources during the compilation process.
[16:10] <kate_r> oh well hopefully i'll get used to it
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> mirak  i use rsync to create a copy
[16:11] <ForgeAus> wow portage can install in parallel I didn't know that...
[16:11] <mirak> MonkeyDust: with options like to not follow mounts ? like in cp maybe
[16:11] <mirak> by the way anyone is running btrfs ?
[16:11] <ForgeAus> apt-get likes things being manageable, it tries to make sure nothing goes wrong ...  so it takes one thing at time
[16:12] <Seveas> mirak, no, I *like* my data :)
[16:12] <deitarion> ForgeAus: When I was using emerge, it didn't even have a problem with two independent installs which installed the same packages. You just ended up reinstalling the packages in common.
[16:12] <mirak> Seveas: there might someone crazier around :)
[16:12] <mirak> might be
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> mirak  yeah, it has several options, i guess more than cp
[16:13] <mirak> MonkeyDust: I defeintely don't upgrade ubuntu without a copy a or dual partition, that's suicide otherwise
[16:13] <deitarion> dsnyders: If you want a network/web gateway for sensors and the like, this looks more impressive. --> dsnyders: http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/dragrove-generic-gateway-for-internet-of-things-p-1118.html?cPath=139_141
[16:14] <mirak> MonkeyDust: in fact never mind I might just do a raw image of my / partition, that would be easier to restore
[16:14] <ForgeAus> deitarion I'm not going to say apt-get is perfect or anything but it normally meets my needs issues like your having with it, are uncommon for me, and I've had some serious package breaks in the past... sure there are a few times it causes issues but in general its no problem
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> mirak  then rsync is what you want, it can also --exclude folders you don't want to copy
[16:14] <deitarion> ForgeAus: I just think it feels like something that got "good enough" at least five years before Portage and stalled there.
[16:14] <mirak> MonkeyDust: yes. I am just thinking it might be faster and easier to restore with a copy with dd
[16:15] <cristian_c> Hi
[16:16] <ForgeAus> deitarion well most of Ubuntu is pre-compiled packages for one afaik not much source installs its just different, and its more the wrappers/interfaces to dpkg that evolve rather than dpkg itself but I'm not saying it can't be made better
[16:16] <mirak> MonkeyDust: how do you restore after that ?
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> mirak  moment
[16:17] <deitarion> ForgeAus: *nod* If I can ever find the time, I want to write a replacement or wrapper for apt-cache search to make it more like Gentoo's equivalent. (It's called "eix" but the site's currently down)
[16:17] <ForgeAus> deitarion sounds awesome :) I wish you good luck
[16:17] <Chuck_Norris> deitarion: use "alias"
[16:17] <deitarion> ForgeAus: Here's a screenshot from someone's blog. Sorry about the bad font. --> http://www.pablumfication.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/123.jpg
[16:18] <deitarion> Chuck_Norris: As far as I know, it's not possible to alias apt-cache search into what that screenshot shows.
[16:18] <Chuck_Norris> oh! sry i missunderstand =P
[16:18] <rabbi1> ubuntu 12.04 is same for AMD64 and Intel 64 bit ?
[16:18] <zoogoo> I have just built myself  nice new pc and have windows 7 on it due to graphics drivers being well done. However i would like to put ubuntu on this pc as my main OS. I have 2 questions for you all. First off is it possible to disable the Unity bar and also is the ATI Radeon HD 7770 fully supported within ubuntu? all i want to play is unreal tournament through steamunder crossover games (this
[16:18] <zoogoo> works well in other distro's on other pc's)
[16:19] <deitarion> rabbi1: Yeah. The architecture is called amd64 because AMD designed it while Intel was puttering around with their Itanium architecture.
[16:19] <ForgeAus> deitarion that output suits portage nicely
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> mirak  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1032296/
[16:19] <ForgeAus> deitarion note apt-get doesn't have stuff like USE flags afaik
[16:19] <Chuck_Norris> rabbi1: if you want ubuntu 64 bits download "ubuntu x86_64"
[16:19] <rabbi1> deitarion: thanks, but itanium are also 64 bit ?
[16:19] <Timbo> slightly random question; where's the best place to start to get a patch included in an ubuntu package?
[16:19] <deitarion> ForgeAus: Yeah. A little richer than what dpkg needs, but it's still like comparing Google and Bing as far as relevance and comfort go.
[16:20] <Timbo> bug report on the package in launchpad?
[16:20] <rabbi1> Chuck_Norris: then, that's different
[16:20] <deitarion> rabbi1: Yeah. Itanium, AMD64, 64-bit PowerPC, etc. are all different 64-bit architectures.
[16:20] <Chuck_Norris> ye
[16:20] <deitarion> rabbi1: AMD calls it AMD64, Intel calls it EM64T, and people who want to be diplomatic call it x86_64.
[16:21] <rabbi1> thanks guys :)
[16:21] <compdoc> itanium is a cpu that we were not going to be able to afford. its for servers. Intel liked it that way
[16:22] <deitarion> Itanium also flopped because its 32-bit compatibility was unappealingly slow.
[16:23]  * ForgeAus wonders what 128 bit will be like
[16:24] <nUwb> I have a question, I know how to tell if my pc is 32 or 64 bit in windows, how do I do that in ubuntu?
[16:24] <dlentz> uname -a will show the running kernel
[16:24] <Chuck_Norris> guys the new version of "Beatbox" rocks give it a try: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/05/beatbox-music-player-sees-new-release-on-ubuntu
[16:24] <compdoc> nUwb, in Windows, open the system control panel
[16:24] <deitarion> ForgeAus: Not something to worry about for a while, I suspect.  I have two valid reasons I'll never use it.
[16:26] <eoss> Hello, I AM IN /etc/network/interfaces and trying to add customer DNS to ubuntu 12.04
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> nUwb  what's the outcome of lshw | grep 64 ?
[16:26] <eoss> from what i have gathered if i want to do that id have to make everything static including IP?
[16:26] <deitarion> Chuck_Norris: 1. I like my media player's UI to be tall and narrow and nothing but a playlist to complement my media keys.
[16:26] <eoss> can someone give me an example line fo adding custom DNS for their wlan0 interface
[16:26] <deitarion> Chuck_Norris: 2. Nothing but Audacious Media Player supports all the chiptune formats I love.
[16:27] <nUwb> MonkeyDust: give me a sec...
[16:27] <dsnyders> ForgeAus, My guess is that it will be unremarkable.  What we lack in data path width, we make up for in processor speed.  The processor is not the bottleneck in most systems.  For most people, running email, browsers, office products and the like, even 64 vs 32 bit is not perceptible.
[16:27] <Chuck_Norris> deitarion: http://i.imgur.com/VsMbk.jpg
[16:27] <MonkeyDust> nUwb  use pastebin to show it to the channel
[16:27] <eoss> why would ubuntu make it more difficult to change DNS
[16:27] <eoss> im about done with this distro
[16:27] <Chuck_Norris> nUwb: what is your procesor and how much ram do you have?
[16:27] <nUwb> MonkeyDutst: AH! That did it
[16:27] <ForgeAus> dsnyders I agree for the most part ...
[16:27] <deitarion> dsnyders: Or it'll be remarkable in that it'll actually be able to run a web browser at reasonable speed with more than a handful of tabs open. :P
[16:28] <dlentz> deitarion, i <3 audacious
[16:28] <mirak> can I remount / as readonly even when under the desktop ?
[16:28] <nUwb> Chuck_Norris: intel celeron D processor 365
[16:28] <ForgeAus> deitarion no by then software will be so bloated beyond any exabyte limit :)
[16:28] <nUwb> it use to have xp on it
[16:28] <ForgeAus> deitarion ok so I don't really believe that :) I was just being cynical for humor
[16:29] <deitarion> ForgeAus: Point. I'm too used to running Lubuntu where everything but the browser is still lightweight and zippy.
[16:29] <Chuck_Norris> nUwb: install ubuntu 32 bit
[16:29] <ForgeAus> is that the attraction to lubuntu I always wondered what the point was
[16:30] <ForgeAus> I'm mostly a kde person myself .. heavy but I find it comfortably functional for me...
[16:30] <nUwb> Chuck_Norris: how can you tell what to install?
[16:30] <cn28h> for some reason, after updating my 12.04 system my sound is super quiet and kind of low quality... googling around I see others with the same issue but no resolution.  Anybody here know how to fix it by chance?
[16:30] <beatpanic> hi, when I go to youtube and try to play a video with flash plugin and alsa plugin container, it basically has intermittent sound, someone has experienced this behavior? thanks
[16:30] <Chuck_Norris> audacius make me remember windows musics players so, i don use it :D
[16:30] <Chuck_Norris> nUwb: becouse this procesor doesn't suppor 64 bit
[16:31] <vinu> Hey thanks MonkeyDust,Seveas. its really helpfull
[16:31] <esing> yo
[16:31] <nUwb> Chuck_Norris: O.k.
[16:31] <ForgeAus> deitarion also I came to linux from a windows background so that probably puts a whole different spin on stuff
[16:31] <deitarion> ForgeAus: I used to be a devout KDE user until they replaced KDE 3.5 with KDE 4. After waiting through KDE 4.5, I decided that, if Konqueror was going to stay too buggy to be usable as a generic tabbed KPart harness anyway and KWin and Qt4 were going to stay far too sluggish and crashy, I'd switch away. (It helped that GTK+'s file dialogs had recently been fixed to no longer be horrendously sluggish on big folders)
[16:32] <deitarion> I also didn't take too kindly to the realization that, as one geek in a basement, I have more formalized quality control for my creations than they do and they don't see a problem with that.
[16:32] <nUwb> Chuck_Norris: I actually bought a new box with windows vista but didn't have the heart to throw this one away :)
[16:32] <ForgeAus> deitarion now that made sense, I always hated the kde3.5-4 switch but 4 is getting usable again ...
[16:33] <slayer_> hello, how do i restart my audio in ubuntu 12.10?
[16:33] <slayer_> /etc/init.d/alsa doesn't seem to exist
[16:33] <dlentz> Chuck_Norris, audacious can use winamp skins, but i use the native gtk mode
[16:33] <deitarion> ForgeAus: I've heard people say that every time they release a new version. I've decided it'd be easier to just get comfortable with LXDE and focus on getting things done.
[16:33] <dsnyders> ForgeAus, deitarion,  If I wanted to try kde, is it simply an apt-get away?
[16:34] <deitarion> dsnyders: Yes, though Kubuntu isn't as polished as some KDE-focused distros.
[16:34] <dlentz> slayer run sudo alsa force-reload
[16:34] <nUwb> Chuck_Norris: I did what MonkeyDust suggested lshw | grep 64 and the output says "width: 64 bits"
[16:34] <ForgeAus> dsnyders my current linux is a kubuntu
[16:34] <nUwb> what does that mean?
[16:34] <ForgeAus> deitarion really? like what?
[16:34] <deitarion> ForgeAus: I forget. It's been a while since I looked into them. (I also think some of them might have been RPM-based and I despise RPM)
[16:35] <ForgeAus> deitarion PCLinuxOS doesn't feel like its integrated at all, feels like linux wiht KDE slapped on top, I don't know anythinga bout Suse but kubuntu feels very much integrated with kde...
[16:35] <ForgeAus> deitarion I'm going to start venturing into rpm's in a chroot jail
[16:35] <dlentz> nUwb, celeron d 365 is s64-bit capable: http://ark.intel.com/products/27975/Intel-Celeron-D-Processor-365-(512K-Cache-3_60-GHz-533-MHz-FSB)
[16:35] <deitarion> ForgeAus: The annoying thing about that is that RPM-based distros have no debootstrap despite having a package-building/testing framework (mork) which would really benefit from it.
[16:35] <twig11> I need somebody to take a look at my Xorg.0.log and see if you can see why I'm getting multiple ubuntu error messages ever since a failed attempt to upgrade my graphics to an ATI Radeon PCI card from the onboard intel graphics on a Dell Optiplex GX520. My current Xorg.0.log contents are at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1032321/.
[16:35] <ForgeAus> deitarion I've avoided them like the plague until now... I think its time I tried it
[16:36] <ForgeAus> deitarion they have rince and febootstrap I think not sure how current they are though
[16:36] <deitarion> ForgeAus: I'd probably just mount an ISO in a VirtualBox VM to test out an RPM distro... at least initially.
[16:36] <ForgeAus> Virtual machines, been there do lots of that, I want to learn something :)
[16:36] <nUwb> dlentz: oh, i think i understand now
[16:36] <dlentz> opensuse is a good KDE distro, mageia 2 just came out as well and that is KDE-focused
[16:36] <deitarion> ForgeAus: Hmm. I'll have to check my notes. Not sure whether I missed those or just dismissed them as unsuitable.
[16:37] <twig11> twig11: Just to be clear, I'm currently using the onboard graphics again and I do have 3D. I just get a bunch of System Problem dialog boxes popping up each time I log in and I'm having a hard time making sense out of them.
[16:37] <ForgeAus> deitarion probably unsuitalbe at least I hope so
[16:37] <nUwb> dlentz: thanks
[16:37] <dlentz> yw
[16:37] <deitarion> ForgeAus: As for VMs, I've had so little free time for so long that I tend to go for the targeted, high return-on-investment solutions.
[16:38] <wolfgang> How do i uninstall somthing?
[16:38] <deitarion> wolfgang: GUI or console?
[16:38] <wolfgang> What do you mean?
[16:38] <deitarion> wolfgang: Do you want to uninstall using `apt-get` or using a GUI tool like Synaptic or Ubuntu Software Center?
[16:39] <yeats> wolfgang: how did you install what you installed?
[16:39] <wolfgang> Gui
[16:39] <wolfgang> Software center
[16:39] <qubit[0|1]> anyone know what redwood-broker is ?
[16:40] <deitarion> wolfgang: Ok. Let me dig up some screenshots. (I don't help my brothers enough to have much experience with the annoyingly commercialized aspects of Ubuntu.)
[16:40] <wolfgang> Ok
[16:41] <ForgeAus> deitarion note PCLinuxOS is (or at least originated as) a Mandriva-based distro that uses apt-rpm (like an apt-get wrapper around rpm packages isntead of .debs)
[16:41] <ForgeAus> don't ask me if it uses dpkg or not I don't actually know
[16:41] <deitarion> ForgeAus: Huh. Interesting approach.
[16:41] <ForgeAus> its also a rolling release
[16:42] <deitarion> ForgeAus: One of the reasons I went from Mandrake 10.0 to Gentoo one year after first switching to Linux.
[16:42] <deitarion> That is, one year after ditching my dual-boot setup.
[16:43] <deitarion> wolfgang: Ok, I'm having trouble finding good up-to-date screenshots but try searching up the package you want to uninstall.
[16:43] <wolfgang> Ok
[16:44] <ForgeAus> this mageia is also rpm-based I haven't heard about this distro til now, just checking it out a little
[16:44] <wolfgang> deitarion, found it
[16:45] <deitarion> wolfgang: Are you looking at a results list or at the page for it right now?
[16:45] <wolfgang> The result list
[16:45] <deitarion> wolfgang: Try right-clicking it.  Let's see if the Software Center devs thought to put a context menu on it.
[16:45] <wolfgang> Oh it says remove
[16:45] <wolfgang> lol sorry
[16:46] <zoogoo> is that gui script about for the gentoo install?
[16:46] <zoogoo> sorry, wrong window
[16:46] <ForgeAus> oh mageia is just mandriva delveopers after they were dropped from commercial ... so its the neo opensource mandriva ...
[16:46] <ForgeAus> essentially
[16:46] <ForgeAus> something like that
[16:46] <wolfgang> Will that get rid of it all the way?
[16:46] <hrmartin> Is there a reason to add RAM on an old laptop running 12.04
[16:46] <wolfgang> or still sub files?
[16:47] <deitarion> wolfgang: I'm not sure about how software center would do it. In the terminal, there are three different things that can be removed.
[16:47] <compdoc> hrmartin, depends on hos much it has
[16:47] <compdoc> how
[16:47] <{Smiles}> my mouse has a biy pf a lag to it...how can i fix that?
[16:47] <dlentz> hrmartin, it depends on how much RAM you have and whether you actually use all of it
[16:47] <{Smiles}> bit*
[16:47] <v1adimir> anyone using privoxy, on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Privoxy says to run sudo vi /etc/privoxy/config but with that I can't edit in the terminal; can I just edit the file directly?
[16:47] <wolfgang> Ok well its removing it Just wondering if i have to find sub files
[16:47] <{Smiles}> my mouse has a bit of a lag to it...how can i fix that?
[16:47] <ForgeAus> lol the Q build for Ubuntu is Quantal Quetzel?
[16:47] <ForgeAus> intersting
[16:48] <compdoc> v1adimir, use nano instead, if thats what you like
[16:48] <SwashBuckla> GRUB2 question: I have set the TIMEOUT=0. Is it possible to still select a different OS at boot?
[16:48] <deitarion> wolfgang: The two parts that could be left behind are config files and dependencies now no longer required.
[16:48] <compdoc> or gedit
[16:48] <hrmartin> HELP Is there a reason to add RAM on an old laptop running 12.04
[16:48] <wolfgang> How do i find though?
[16:48] <wolfgang> *thoughs
[16:48] <v1adimir> compdoc: thanks, just installed, so figuring everything out
[16:48] <dlentz> hrmartin, we already told you..
[16:48] <BlueChaos> hellow guys
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> hrmartin  if you want to suspend/hibernate
[16:48] <BlueChaos> I have a question to do
[16:48] <deitarion> wolfgang: You can flush all the unnecessary dependencies on your system (left by any packages) by running `sudo apt-get autoremove` in a terminal. (Not sure about GUI)
[16:48] <hrmartin> sorry new to this. Where ?
[16:49] <BlueChaos> how to burn up one cd using ubuntu 12.04
[16:49] <wolfgang> Ok Won't get rid of my other stuff?
[16:49] <dlentz> hrmartin, it depends on how much RAM you have and whether you actually use all of it (check free -m command under heacy load)
[16:49] <BlueChaos> someone can tell me one software to burn a CD  ?
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> BlueChaos  brasero
[16:49] <hrmartin> dlentz I have 1Gb on an old AMD Turion 64 Laptop
[16:49] <dlentz> BlueChaos, ubuntu comes with brasero, k3b is good too
[16:49] <deitarion> wolfgang: No. The autoremove command just gets rid of packages that were pulled in but now aren't needed anymore. (For example, libraries that were used by programs you've now uninstalled)
[16:50] <BlueChaos> dlentz
[16:50] <BlueChaos> Tx
[16:50] <BlueChaos> thx
[16:50] <dlentz> hrmartin, that's a bit low, but if you don't do a lot of mutlitasking, it may be eough
[16:50] <nUwb> SwashBuckla: you do that before the OS loads by pressing either f8 or f10, I think...
[16:50] <dlentz> like isaid, check free -m to see if swap is getting used heavily
[16:50] <wolfgang> Ok thank you
[16:50] <wolfgang> Bey
[16:50] <SwashBuckla> nUwb: no.
[16:50] <SwashBuckla> well I'll try it
[16:51] <hrmartin> dlentz new ubuntu user, new linux user. It revived the old laptop but seems to freeze once inawhile
[16:51] <SwashBuckla> but I think you're talking about the BIOS boot menu, am I right?
[16:51] <SwashBuckla> nUwb: ^
[16:51] <dlentz> SwashBuckla, holding shift brings up grub2 menu
[16:51] <v1adimir> BlueChaos: xubuntu comes with Xfburn
[16:51] <nUwb> nUwb: that's what i thought you were talking about lol
[16:51] <SwashBuckla> SwashBuckla: lol
[16:51] <BlueChaos> vladimir thx for u answer but already instaled  brasero
[16:51] <nUwb> nUwb: sorry about that :)
[16:52] <BlueChaos> now tryng to burn a windows xp sp3
[16:52] <SwashBuckla> SwashBuckla: no worries!
[16:52] <dlentz> hrmartin, if you're running out of RAM, the system usually slows down before freezing
[16:52] <hrmartin> dlentz is there a monitoring app I can use ?
[16:52] <v1adimir> BlueChaos: careful if you haven't integrated the cd yourself, I think the highest from miscrosoft was xp sp2
[16:53] <v1adimir> *integrated the sp
[16:53] <BlueChaos> I wish to make a copy of cd
[16:53] <ForgeAus> kubuntu is no longer going to be with canonical?
[16:53] <BlueChaos> MonkeyDust,
[16:54] <MonkeyDust> ForgeAus  no , community
[16:54] <BlueChaos> I instlled brasero I run it
[16:54] <BlueChaos> and I choise copy cd
[16:54] <ForgeAus> what does that mean its no longer a official ubuntu distro?
[16:54] <BlueChaos> and not need to select target where is cd-rom/cd-writer shows me but I cannot select I click on it and
[16:54] <BlueChaos> don`t occuped the area
[16:55] <deitarion> ForgeAus: Depends on your definition of "official". As I understand it, they'll donate infrastructure, but no longer programmers.
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> BlueChaos  music or video?
[16:55] <twig11> I need somebody to take a look at my Xorg.0.log and see if you can see why I'm getting multiple ubuntu error messages ever since a failed attempt to upgrade my graphics to an ATI Radeon PCI card from the onboard intel graphics on a Dell Optiplex GX520. My current Xorg.0.log contents are at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1032321/.
[16:55] <BlueChaos> monkey copy of windows
[16:56] <BlueChaos> I insert the windows cd intro dvd-writer and I choise from there copy cd
[16:56] <mobilnoob11> Got some interesting questions...
[16:56] <MonkeyDust> BlueChaos  then you may want to make an .iso of it
[16:56] <twig11> Sorry if somebody answered my question before: Empathy was flaking out  so I didnt' get any replies
[16:56] <BlueChaos> MonkeyDust,  I want to make a copy of windows cd
[16:56] <BlueChaos> omg
[16:56] <v1adimir> twig11: in a funny way that makes me happy that i got nvidia ;)
[16:56] <hrmartin> Is there an app I can use to monitor RAM usage ?
[16:57] <BlueChaos> I select opttions copy Cd and was open one window with
[16:57] <BlueChaos> copycd/dvd
[16:57] <deitarion> hrmartin: Depends on how you want to monitor it.
[16:57] <BlueChaos> select disc to be copy
[16:57] <BlueChaos> and there have my  dvd but I cannotselect
[16:57] <BlueChaos> it
[16:57] <hrmartin> deitarion: I want to know if I'm running out of it. I only have 1Gb on an old laptop
[16:58] <BlueChaos> to press copy
[16:58] <deitarion> hrmartin: I mean more in the way of what user interface you want. The simplest, most primitive way is probably to run `watch -n2 "free -m"` in a terminal.
[16:58] <tomasm-> hi, is there a biff-style mail notification tool in unity that will work with launching thunderbird on compose or viewing details? i see unity mail but it goes to gmail, which doesn't help me. it doesn't even have config options to launch a custom app instead. =(
[16:59] <hrmartin> deitarion: thank you . I'll try that.  As per this post i edited rc.local and added: modprobe -r atl1c. now it doesn't freeze, but My ethernet doesn't work. What is going on here?
[17:00] <hrmartin> deitarion: ?? euh ! Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[17:00] <twig11> v1adimir: I would have gone with Nvidia if I hadn't had this one lying around. From what I'm reading my Radeon card should be able to do 3d with the default ubuntu drivers though. However, it didn't work for me and I couldn't find any two sources that agreed on how to get it working. So I tried a bunch of stuff, some of which I didn't really understand and naturally ended up issues I couldn't undo.
[17:00] <deitarion> hrmartin: So Unity then. (In addition to Ubuntu, there's Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Lubuntu which use different software)
[17:01] <hrmartin> deitarion: your command says FREE 93 on the first line. seems low if it's 93kb (or is it Mb)
[17:01] <twig11> v1adimir: Glad to have given you warm fuzzies about your nvidia card though
[17:01] <hrmartin> deitarion yes unity . this I know
[17:01] <v1adimir> twig11: :))
[17:01] <deitarion> hrmartin: Look at the "-/+ buffers/cache" line. Linux uses unused memory as disk cache to improve performance.
[17:02] <v1adimir> twig11: sorz im new on this thing, id help if i could
[17:02] <edwinkcw> hi all, how to find out how much memory for a specific process? let say how much ram used by apache
[17:02] <hrmartin> deitarion: under the "free" column 210
[17:02] <hrmartin> deitarion: is this enough ?
[17:02] <hrmartin> deitarion: my computer froze a couple of times this morning.... completely new install
[17:02] <deitarion> hrmartin: I'm not sure. I use Lubuntu (LXDE) rather than Ubuntu (GNOME+Unity) because it's more lightweight.
[17:02] <ForgeAus> its geting more and more difficult to find derivatives on the ubuntu website
[17:03] <deitarion> hrmartin: How did it freeze? Did it slow down before it froze?
[17:03] <twig11> v1adimir: yeah np. I'll post again after awhile. Doesn't look like we've got an expert online who's interested in tackling a graphics problem at the moment.
[17:03] <theorem> is there a way to remount / as rw when in recovery mode?  mount -o rw,remount -force     is not doing it for me  :(
[17:03] <zykotick9> edwinkcw: top or htop will show memory as a %
[17:03] <exicer> Hm, if I've installed something from source, how can I uninstall that thing?
[17:03] <ForgeAus> I'm starting to wonder if maybe I should start looking fora  different distro :(
[17:03] <wolfgang> Hay I would like to know how to back up my files, and where to do it to.
[17:03] <theorem> exicer :just find the install makefile and run : make deinstall
[17:04] <hrmartin> deitarion: well the mouse moves but nothing else happens. I mostly only use chrome. So i can't really say it slowed down first. Just nothing was hapenning for over 5 minutes
[17:04] <edwinkcw> zykotick9: but I want to show apache only
[17:04] <zykotick9> exicer: see if there is a "make uninstall" (source uninstalls can get messy, thus packages are recommended)
[17:04] <ForgeAus> mint is a derivative too but that has nothing to do with canonical and stuff...
[17:04] <exicer> zykotick9, theorem: There doesn't seem to be a make uninstall..
[17:04] <zykotick9> edwinkcw: sorry, I don't know
[17:04] <deitarion> hrmartin: If the mouse moves, then the system isn't frozen... just some part of it.
[17:04] <SwashBuckla> dlentz: holding shift brings up grub2 menu, but only if it's been configured to do so
[17:04] <exicer> zykotick9, theorem: I am potentially doing something stupid though
[17:04] <twig11> I need somebody to take a look at my Xorg.0.log and see if you can see why I'm getting multiple ubuntu error messages ever since a failed attempt to upgrade my graphics to an ATI Radeon PCI card from the onboard intel graphics on a Dell Optiplex GX520. My current Xorg.0.log contents are at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1032321/.
[17:04] <hrmartin> deitarion: agreed
[17:04] <SwashBuckla> I haven't, and since timeout=0 and default=0 (Windows), I can't see a way to boot into ubuntu
[17:05] <wolfgang> I would like to know how to back up my files, and where to do it to?
[17:05] <SwashBuckla> dlentz: can you think of a way to boot into Ubuntu?
[17:05] <deitarion> hrmartin: Given that you're on Unity, it could be that you're running into a bug in the compositor. (The program responsible for taking all the windows, applying pretty visual effects using the GPU, and then drawing them to the screen)
[17:05] <mobilnoob11> Sry to interupt, did anyone catch that question?
[17:05] <theorem> wolfgang : google or dropbox
[17:05] <theorem> wow, it's chatty today!
[17:05] <hrmartin> deitarion: thank you.... should I try a lighter distribution ?
[17:05] <wolfgang> theorem: Ok does dropbox have unlimited storage?
[17:06] <theorem> wolfgan g : if you pay
[17:06] <wolfgang> theorem: Is there a place for free?
[17:06] <deitarion> hrmartin: It'd be worth a try. If you want to do it without reinstalling, I'd suggest installing the lubuntu-desktop package.
[17:06] <twig11> theorem: why wouldn't you recommend U1?
[17:07] <theorem> wolfgang: yes, your stuff
[17:07] <deitarion> hrmartin: That'll pull in Lubuntu so you can choose it from the menu at the login screen.
[17:07] <theorem> twig11 : i'm not sure i trust U1
[17:07] <wolfgang> theorem: What do you mean my stuff?
[17:07] <mobilnoob11> um, hello?
[17:08] <wolfgang> Hello
[17:08] <twig11> theorem: bad experiences or security concerns? If it's security, I'd be just as worried about Dropbox
[17:08] <mobilnoob11> SHould I repost my question?
[17:08] <wolfgang> ya
[17:08] <jeremyIron> hey guys i have a pentium m 1.6 Ghz processor and 2 Gigs of ram is this enough  to have a good ubuntu experience?
[17:08] <theorem> i need to do more research on it
[17:08] <hrmartin> deitarion: thank you. Let me check Lubuntu. Is there a resource page I should check first ?
[17:09] <mobilnoob11> I have installed ubuntu on this Acer Aspire 5250, it was freezing due to some ethernet issue, I found this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11249189 . As per this post i edited rc.local and added: modprobe -r atl1c. now it doesn't freeze, but My ethernet doesn't work. What is going on here?
[17:09] <mobilnoob11> that pentium 1.6 should run fine
[17:09] <twig11> wolfgang: are you familiar with ubuntu's built-in file sync service, Ubuntu One?
[17:09] <wolfgang> twig11: is it unlimited and free?
[17:09] <theorem> twig11what about sparkleshare?
[17:09] <jeremyIron> mobilnoob11: thanks dude
[17:09] <wolfgang> twig11: it says stuff to me sometimes
[17:10] <v1adimir> wolfgang: https://one.ubuntu.com/
[17:10] <deitarion> hrmartin: Define "resource page"
[17:10] <v1adimir> and no
[17:10] <theorem> twig11 : do you know a way to mount just / as rw instead of the whole fstab when in ubuntu recovery mode?
[17:10] <wolfgang> its not unlimited?
[17:10] <v1adimir> 5gb from the front page
[17:11] <theorem> wolfgang , why would it be?
[17:11] <wolfgang> i dont know
[17:11] <mobilnoob11> I was running ubuntu on an athalon 1.2 w 1gig till yesterday
[17:11] <wolfgang> i want something that is
[17:11] <theorem> it's a service, costs money to run.
[17:11] <wolfgang> i have like 150 blank disks of 700 mb would thoughs be better?
[17:11] <mobilnoob11> Did I ask a question no o ne can answer?
[17:11] <jeremyIron> is it the 1.6 pentium m processor capable of perfoming ubuntu 12.04 with ed graphics?
[17:12] <jeremyIron> sorry 3d
[17:12] <mobilnoob11> I don't know jeremy
[17:12] <theorem> wolfgang: only you can answer that .. but i think that's a terrible idea
[17:12] <v1adimir> wolfgang: i wouldn't go with CDs personally :))) maybe dvd lol
[17:12] <deitarion> wolfgang: Even GMail isn't unlimited. You want "unlimited", there are two options:
[17:12] <wolfgang> Why would it be terrible?
[17:12] <mobilnoob11> I really don't want to post my question a third time.
[17:13] <theorem> is he a troll or really that dumb?
[17:13] <wolfgang> Me?
[17:13] <theorem> :(
[17:13] <wolfgang> Me?
[17:13] <theorem> consider how you would revoer with 150 CDs
[17:13] <escott> some empathy developer decided i would rather manage my contacts list in google. so now its all screwed up. anyone know how to undo this?
[17:13] <theorem> recover
[17:13] <deitarion> wolfgang: I think he's talking about mobilnoob11
[17:13] <twig11> theorem: no looks like something beyond my skills
[17:13] <hrmartin> deitarion: a web site to help me with the install
[17:14] <v1adimir> wolfgang: it would take a month to do 150 cds xD
[17:14] <chatty99> hey
[17:14] <wolfgang> Well i dont know if i need all 150
[17:14] <theorem> crap , ok, twig .. it's very basic, but causing me a headache
[17:14] <deitarion> wolfgang: Option 1: Use an external hard drive. (They're $100 for 1TB on sale)
[17:14] <wolfgang> they are 700 mb each
[17:14] <mobilnoob11> How am I involved in this?
[17:14] <jeremyIron> jajajjaja
[17:14] <deitarion> wolfgang: Option 2: Pay a monthly fee.
[17:14] <chatty99> is it a good idea to make resolv.conf read only?
[17:15] <jeremyIron> ok gotta go no thanks for the info mobilnoob11:
[17:15] <wolfgang> Would new egg be a good place forexternal hard drives?
[17:15] <theorem> wolf : yes
[17:15] <deitarion> hrmartin: If you want to install Lubuntu into an existing Ubuntu install, just install the "lubuntu-desktop" package, log out, and choose Lubuntu from the selector in the login screen. No guide necessary.
[17:15] <mobilnoob11> ?
[17:15] <wolfgang> Ok thanks
[17:15] <deitarion> hrmartin: If you want to install it fresh using an install disc, there's a wizard.
[17:15] <v1adimir> wolfgang: cross-check the prices man :) sometimes the same device costs less somwhere else
[17:15] <mobilnoob11> What did I do?
[17:15] <chatty99> is it a good idea to make resolv.conf read only?
[17:15] <wolfgang> Ok
[17:16] <twig11> wolfgang: Just got one there myself. Store your drive somewhere away from your computer so anything that happens to one doesn't happen to both.
[17:16] <hrmartin> deitarion: if I can use the word "cool" in this forum I'll say it : cool. Logging out. I am Hugo R. Martin on G+
[17:16] <hrmartin> exit
[17:16] <deitarion> I don't use G+
[17:16] <wolfgang> Ok what do you mean store away?
[17:16] <ethek> Both my UbuntuOne and Ubuntu software center crash with ...crashed with DBUSException in call blocking(): org freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChiledExited: Process /usr/lib/ubuntu-sso-client/ubuntu-sso-login exited with status 1.
[17:16] <mobilnoob11> Who decided that I'm a troll?
[17:16] <theorem> ?
[17:16] <wolfgang> keep away from it?
[17:17] <v1adimir> twig11: yeah unless the USB is plugged in, when the power supply blows ;p
[17:17] <wolfgang> i thought external was usb?
[17:17] <eeriks> What is new in "Ubuntu 11.04 'Natty Narwhal."?
[17:17] <v1adimir> true story
[17:17] <twig11> wolfgang: Store the backup somewhere different than where you have your stuff now.
[17:17] <wolfgang> Ok
[17:18] <mobilnoob11> HELLO!
[17:18] <wolfgang> Where do i find stuff on external hardrdive on on newegg.com ?
[17:18] <SwashBuckla> dlentz: ?
[17:18] <twig11> wolfgang: so if somebody breaks into your house and steals your computer, you'll still have your hard drive backup
[17:19] <wolfgang> Ok
[17:19] <v1adimir> if someone broke into my house to steal the pc, they wouldn't walk out alive :)
[17:19] <ethek> how do I troubleshoot my error, Im not getting anything. Is there a way to reinstall  the SSO client without Software center (which does not load)
[17:19] <wolfgang> My comp is 8 years old just don't want to lose data no one will steal it.
[17:19] <twig11> v1adimir: good to know :-)
[17:19] <v1adimir> hehe
[17:20] <mobilnoob11> Ok, well, I was hoping to get some insight into this, but I guess you are all busy.
[17:20] <mobilnoob11> Or you don't know...
[17:21] <modernbob> ls
[17:21] <wolfgang> would external hard drive be in hard drive sec of newegg.com ?
[17:22] <mobilnoob11> shut up
[17:22] <mobilnoob11> idiot
[17:22] <mobilnoob11> I have an actual question
[17:22] <twig11> wolfgang: The nature of tech being what it is, you should really have your data copied in at least 3 places if it is important and irreplaceable. My business data, for example, is backed up to two computers, an external drive, online, and occasionally to an encrypted flash usb drive I carry with me. It's pretty hard for any disaster to shut me down that way.
[17:22] <deitarion> wolfgang: Yes. hard drives > external hard drives
[17:22] <v1adimir> mobilnoob11: that's a good way to go about it, gr8
[17:22] <LordDeath> in the default ubuntu 12.04 installation is there a firewall installed?
[17:22] <deitarion> mobilnoob11: I was considering looking back at what you wanted, but if you're going to be rude to someone I was helping, forget it.
[17:23] <mobilnoob11> whatever, if this guys can't buy a harddrive......
[17:23] <v1adimir> LordDeath: ufw uh.. the command is
[17:23] <SwashBuckla> holding shift brings up grub2 menu, but only if it's been configured to do so
[17:23] <SwashBuckla> I haven't, and since timeout=0 and default=0 (Windows), I can't see a way to boot into ubuntu
[17:24] <deitarion> mobilnoob11: He asked a quick question to save himself a little effort. It wasn't ideal, but rudeness automatically makes you wrong.
[17:24] <v1adimir> LordDeath: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW not sure if it's only on xubuntu
[17:24] <wolfgang> is 500GB more than a terribite
[17:24] <wolfgang> ?
[17:24] <mobilnoob11> k
[17:24] <SwashBuckla> how can I boot into Ubuntu if GRUB2 TIMEOUT=0 and DEFAULT=0 (Windows)?
[17:24] <mobilnoob11> well you have been ignoring me, which is also rude
[17:24] <deitarion> wolfgang: No. Terabyte = 1000 Gigabytes
[17:24] <jrdnn> wolfgang it's half a terabyte
[17:24] <mobilnoob11> so we are all wrong
[17:24] <SwashBuckla> wolfgang: no
[17:24] <deitarion> mobilnoob11: I can only help so many people. Ignoring some to help others is expected.
[17:24] <wolfgang> holly carp it's 80 dollars
[17:24] <ethek> maybe my problem is with SSO?
[17:24] <mobilnoob11> you could just say that
[17:25] <jrdnn> wolfgang shop around more you can get like 2TB for 80 dollars nowadays
[17:25] <mobilnoob11> either way, I don't think you would know anyway
[17:25] <hrmartin> deitarion: sorry me again. only Ubuntu and ubuntu 2d in the "login menu" how to I install Lubuntu ??
[17:25] <wolfgang> jrdnn: where at?
[17:25] <deitarion> hrmartin: The simplest way for me to explain would probably be to open a terminal and type `sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop`
[17:25] <v1adimir> mobilnoob11: are you serious now, you think being here is yor right? ;)
[17:25] <jrdnn> wolfgang newegg, maybe tigerdirect
[17:25] <wolfgang> Ok
[17:25] <mobilnoob11> no, just want some help
[17:25] <hrmartin> deitarion: consider it done !
[17:26] <mobilnoob11> either way, I didn't come here for this.
[17:26] <deitarion> wolfgang: The Canadian NewEgg has everything from 500GB for $80 CAD to 1TiB for $120 CAD just on the featured drives page for the external hard drives section. Look around.
[17:26] <v1adimir> just chill man, someone will help
[17:27] <SwashBuckla> GRUB2 question: I have set the TIMEOUT=0 and the DEFAULT=0 (Windows). Can I still boot Ubuntu?
[17:27] <jrdnn> deitarion which brands list drive space in tibibytes?
[17:27] <deitarion> jrdnn: Oops. Muscle memory.
[17:28] <mobilnoob11> Ok thanks guys. Love getting ignored, attitude and no help. Wow, way to win people over.
[17:28] <ozpy> OpenVPN issue on ubuntu 12.04: I installed openVPN and rebooted my dell studio 1555. When going to "add VPN", I don't get the option... only PPTP. On linux mint I have no drama
[17:28] <deitarion> mobilnoob11: wait
[17:28] <Bahaman> Hi im somewhat new to ubuntu(linux) and im currently running 11.10. However 12.04 update is available, what will happen if i update? Will I lose all my data?
[17:29] <deitarion> mobilnoob11: Just finished reading what you said. I still think you're being rude, but since you genuinely seem to have slipped through the cracks (it's a trivial question to answer), I'll answer it for you.
[17:29] <rhizmoe> Bahaman: no, but you should backup beforehand anyway. period.
[17:29] <mobilnoob11> I would love that. I will put you on the list of IRC peeps I like.
[17:30] <ozpy> OpenVPN issue on ubuntu 12.04: I installed openVPN and rebooted my dell studio 1555. When going to "add VPN", I don't get the option... only PPTP option. On linux mint I have no drama
[17:30] <deitarion> mobilnoob11: "modprobe -r athl1c" unloads your wireless driver. (For future reference, you can read about it with the `man modprobe` command)
[17:30] <jrdnn> Bahaman unless the update process is way different than a year ago you should be able to update and keep all your data and programs
[17:30] <jemark> did you install the openvpn plugin for gnome-networkmanager?
[17:30] <Bahaman> rhizmoe: did it really go so fast from 11.10 to 12.04 or is there some sort of different versions?
[17:31] <deitarion> mobilnoob11: If that fixes your problem, the best guess I have is that the currently-included version of the driver has a bug in it that causes your system to freeze.
[17:31] <roshanpiyush> hi
[17:31] <jemark> hi roshanpiyush
[17:31] <jrdnn> hello
[17:32] <ethek> can help me troubleshoot why my SSO-client seems to be crashing both my Ubuntu Software Center and Ubuntu One?  Two of my Ubuntu native apps crash on startup
[17:32] <deitarion> mobilnoob11: I'm not familiar with your particular hardware (the only WiFi-enabled device I own is a pocket computer I connect using a USB wired ethernet adapter) so give me a sec to read more of that thread.
[17:32] <mobilnoob11> I really appreciate it, I didn't exect you to spend time on it.
[17:33] <niagr_> mobilnoob11: welcome to the ubuntu community :)
[17:34] <mobilnoob11> thanks
[17:34] <ozpy> OpenVPN issue on ubuntu 12.04: I installed openVPN and rebooted my dell studio 1555. When going to "add VPN", I don't get the option... only PPTP option. On linux mint I have no drama
[17:34] <wolfgang> Hay would sun java six be good for minecraft?
[17:34] <wolfgang> i have it but not sure
[17:35] <deitarion> wolfgang: That or IcedTea 6. They say to use Sun Java 6, but I have no problems playing Minecraft with IcedTea 6 either.
[17:35] <wolfgang> Ok
[17:35] <deitarion> Just don't use Sun Java 7 or IcedTea 7. They don't yet support it and you'll get a blank, black window.
[17:35] <ejo> but blank, black windows are so calming!
[17:36] <deitarion> mobilnoob11: Ok, so let me see if I understand the situation. Your system normally freezes, but removing that module stops the fixes, but it kills your wireless support and you need wireless?
[17:36] <mobilnoob11> no
[17:36] <deitarion> s/stops the fixes/stops the freezes/
[17:36] <DJones> wolfgang: I play minecraft using sun java 6 or open jdk java 6, both work with no problems
[17:36] <wolfgang> Also I used to run servers on my desktop with bukkit but had to static ip how do i do that now i had to dump harddrive so i need to static ip again?
[17:36] <deitarion> mobilnoob11: Ok. Mind clarifying? I'm obviously missing something.
[17:37] <wolfgang>  I used to run servers on my desktop with bukkit but had to static ip how do i do that now i had to dump harddrive so i need to static ip again?
[17:37] <mobilnoob11> it freezes if the ethernet is removed. but I added that to rc.local, and it doesn't freeze, but the ethernet doesn't work. The wireless works fine.
[17:37] <wolfgang> do i need to re do that?
[17:37] <raven> recent update within 12.04 xubuntu = NO network any more on eeepc 1005 ha - how to reparir that
[17:37] <deitarion> wolfgang: Do you really need a static IP or do you just need something you can hand out to people?
[17:37] <arkanabar> I'm in a pickle.  My mobo won't boot from USB, and my CD-rom causes kernel panics when I try to boot.  Is there a way to put an Ubuntu .ISO file on my HD, and boot from that?
[17:37] <deitarion> mobilnoob11: Ahh. Hmm.
[17:37] <wolfgang> I have a belkin that required it to port forward
[17:38] <SwashBuckla> GRUB2 question: I have set the TIMEOUT=0 and the DEFAULT=0 (Windows). Can I still boot Ubuntu?
[17:38] <deitarion> wolfgang: Ahh. Check if your router lets you do static IP on the router side. (Pinning a specific internal IP to a specific MAC address)
[17:39] <wolfgang> How? the phisical router or do i check from comp?
[17:39] <wolfgang> deitarion: How? the phisical router or do i check from comp?
[17:40] <mobilnoob11> So ethernet works, unplug ethernet = freeze. rc.local edited =  no freeze, no ethernet
[17:40] <arkanabar> wolfgang -- this is something you ought to do through your router's web interface.
[17:40] <wolfgang> Ok so but my default gateway in url bar?
[17:40] <mobilnoob11> btw, sorry wolfgang.
[17:41] <mobilnoob11> I'm a jerk.
[17:41] <wolfgang> how?
[17:41] <compdoc> arkanabar, can you attach the drive to another system and install Ubuntu to the point where its ready to reboot?
[17:41] <wolfgang> mobilnoob11: what did you do?
[17:41] <arkanabar> wolfgang -- I guess so.  You might also want to search the web, to see if yourmodel supports what deitarion suggested.
[17:41] <sirriffsalot> How is Linux in terms of viruses these days?
[17:41] <arkanabar> compdoc -- nope.
[17:41] <wolfgang> Ok
[17:42] <jrdnn> sirriffsalot people can make viruses for pretty much any OS but there happen to be a lot less Linux ones
[17:42] <arkanabar> sirriffsalot: there are none.
[17:42] <wolfgang> Not sure what he did suggest though
[17:42] <sirriffsalot> Haha, contradiction alarm here... evidence please?:P
[17:42] <arkanabar>  wolfgang: Ahh. Check if your router lets you do static IP on the router side. (Pinning a specific internal IP to a specific MAC address)
[17:42] <wolfgang> Ok whats it mean lol
[17:42] <deitarion> mobilnoob11: I'm not entirely sure what that specific module is, but it sounds like it's probably your wired ethernet driver and, by removing it, you avoid a bug that's freezing your system.
[17:42] <wolfgang> I'm not to good with comps
[17:43] <raven> recent update within 12.04 xubuntu = NO network any more on eeepc 1005 ha - how to reparir that
[17:43] <sirriffsalot> arkanabar: I'm very unknowledgeable when it comes to viruses... supposing I got some virus that would screw a windows os up completely in my linux OS... what would happen?
[17:43] <arkanabar> this means your router would assign a specific fixed IP (eg, <IP_ADDRESS>) to the Mandatory Access Contol address of your ethernet card.
[17:43] <DJones> !virus | sirriffsalot
[17:43] <deitarion> wolfgang: If you open up your router's web interface in your browser, there may be a panel where you can say "Always give IP address X to the network card with MAC address Y". Sorry for the delay. Had to run and help someone else IRL.
[17:44] <sirriffsalot> DJones: hmm.. ok.. Will check it out. But I'm having trouble believing that Linux doesn't need antivirus at all..
[17:44] <arkanabar> sirriffsalot: you'd have to mount the linux partition in windows, and run the  virus file.
[17:44] <wolfgang> How do i get my default gateway?
[17:44] <wolfgang> to go to webpage
[17:44] <deitarion> sirriffsalot: I forget where I put it, but there's a list of something like 15 reasons that I wrote why Linux doesn't need antivirus.
[17:44] <mobilnoob11> deitation thanks. I will look into it further.
[17:44] <sirriffsalot> arkanabar: but the virus is programmed for windows OS, which is entirely different from Linux I would imagine.. how would it work?
[17:44] <compdoc> sirriffsalot, they provide rkhunter and clamav for linux, so there must be a reason to do so
[17:44] <wolfgang> in windows it was ipconfig still same?
[17:44] <sirriffsalot> deitarion: lemme know if you find it!
[17:45] <sirriffsalot> compdoc: to do what?
[17:45] <wolfgang> default gateway
[17:45] <wolfgang> how do i find it?
[17:45] <arkanabar> I'm in a pickle.  My mobo won't boot from USB, and my CD-rom causes kernel panics when I try to boot.  Is there a way to put an Ubuntu .ISO file on my HD, and boot from that?
[17:45] <deitarion> wolfgang: run `route` in a terminal
[17:45] <wolfgang> ok
[17:45] <deitarion> wolfgang: If you want your ip address, the command is `ifconfig`
[17:46] <deitarion> wolfgang: (The Linux command is more general, so it's "InterFace CONFIG" rather than "IP CONFIG")
[17:47] <wolfgang> wolfgang@Muffin:~$ InterFace CONFIG
[17:47] <wolfgang> InterFace: command not found
[17:47] <wolfgang> what do i do?
[17:47] <bluenemo> hi guys, are there any moorhuhn (shooting those birds by clicking in 2D) clones for ubuntu?
[17:47] <deitarion> wolfgang: "ifconfig" I'm saying it's short for InterFace CONFIG
[17:48] <wolfgang> ok
[17:48] <sirriffsalot> compdoc: reason to do what mate?
[17:48] <wolfgang> there that works
[17:48] <wolfgang> Is There a good way to run batch files on linux?
[17:49] <compdoc> sirriffsalot, scan for root kits and viruses
[17:49] <escott> wolfgang, you just run them. what do you mean?
[17:49] <sirriffsalot> compdoc: ah, yea, that's what I figured too...:)
[17:49] <wolfgang> The windows batch
[17:49] <deitarion> wolfgang: That's a tricky thing to answer because it's sort of like asking whether there's an easy way to use rocket fuel in a plane.
[17:50] <jrdnn> wolfgang learn bash and make a .sh file for non-Windows systems that does the same as your .bat file did
[17:50] <deitarion> wolfgang: Windows has "batch files" which are essentially pale knock-offs of what Linux has. (shell scripts)
[17:50] <ejo> typically windows batch files are composed of instructions to a windows shell.  Given that you probably don't have a windows shell on your linux machine, there's a mismatch there.
[17:50] <Sidewinder1> 32 bit Desktop, 12.04 install; What is the optimal swap partition size? 1.5 or 2, times RAM?
[17:50] <wolfgang> Well i'm used to batch more
[17:51] <wolfgang> in this in terminal i know sudo apt-get install
[17:51] <wolfgang> thats it
[17:51] <rhizmoe> get reading, then
[17:51] <wolfgang> with batch i can do alot more
[17:51] <deitarion> wolfgang: Mind if I message you privately?
[17:51] <wolfgang> ok
[17:51] <wolfgang> i dont mine
[17:52] <wolfgang> mind
[17:52] <ejo> Sidewinder1: if you have a ton of RAM and rarely fill it, you don't really have to go that large.  But if you want to experiment with enabling hibernation you do need to cover your entire RAM size and then some.  The old 1.5 to 2x recommendation was more applicable back when we had 1Gb or less on board and ordinary running of the machine frequently needed more virtual mem than physical mem.
[17:52] <wolfgang> How would you?
[17:53] <bluenemo> can you recommend any cool games for touchscreens? got a x200 tablet (12 inch touchscreen)
[17:53] <damms005> roomie!
[17:54] <escott> wolfgang, you can put commands in a file and start it with #!/bin/sh and then make it executable with chmod +x filename.sh and just run it
[17:54] <jrdnn> wolfgang https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=88674
[17:54] <damms005> I have done it guys. Finally migrated wubi
[17:55] <damms005> but I am afraid, GRUB bootloader installed, windows boot option not there anymore
[17:55] <deitarion> bluenemo: If you don't mind paying at least a penny, The Humble Bundle V has Superbrothers: Sword & Sworcery EP and that's designed for tablets. https://www.humblebundle.com/
[17:56] <bluenemo> fancy, thank you deitarion
[17:57] <deitarion> Pay more than the average ($8.27 at this instant) and you'll get Braid, Lone Survivor, Bastion, and Super Meat Boy with the option to add them to your Ubuntu Software Center account too.
[17:58] <bluenemo> deitarion, those games are all for tablets?
[17:58] <Sidewinder1> ejo, Thanks for the quick response. This is a circa 2006 Dell; 2G RAM {maxed out}, I never hibernate, just the normal screen-saver and occaisionally Ctrl-Alt-L so on that basis, 1.5 to 2?
[17:58] <ejo> yes, pretty much
[17:58] <Sidewinder1> Thanks again!
[17:59] <deitarion> bluenemo: No, but I thought I'd mention that some really popular indie games can be had with proper Ubuntu Software Center integration.
[17:59] <bluenemo> ah ok
[17:59] <damms005> pls anybody know any problem with wubi migrate?  I migrated few minutes ago....The only itch is that I can't see windows in boot startup again(Not a problem though, since I don't need Bill Gates again :))
[17:59] <mobilnoob11> ~Does anyone know of a fix for the suspend/won't wake up issue?
[18:00] <kio> HI, is there a away to make do-release-upgrade without the interaction?
[18:00] <escott> mobilnoob11, depends on your hardware
[18:01] <mobilnoob11> I have an acer aspire 5250
[18:01] <mobilnoob11> perma-sleeps when software suspend or lid close
[18:01] <raven> recent update within 12.04 xubuntu = NO network any more on eeepc 1005 ha - how to reparir that
[18:02] <john23423> hey can somone help me i would liuke to remove the dash to the right in ubuntu
[18:02] <john23423> like*
[18:02] <compdoc> good luck with that
[18:02] <john23423> can i hide it or do anything
[18:03] <xangua> john23423: if you mean the unity launcher, you can't move it
[18:03] <xangua> john23423: you can set it to autohide in the Apearence preferences
[18:03] <escott> mobilnoob11, debugging suspend resume is a time consuming process. you usually start by looking at your kernel modules (lsmod) and going through them one by one adding trying to see if removing that module during the freeze allows the system to thaw correctly
[18:03] <john23423> really ..id rather use cairo
[18:03] <john23423> really
[18:03] <john23423> so i can hide it
[18:04] <john23423> ok another question
[18:04] <john23423> how to i get the run as admin in the file manager right click menu
[18:04] <john23423> do*
[18:04] <hrmartin> deitarion: I'm back. gotta tell you Lubuntu might not be as pretty as Unity, but seems much faster for my particular PC
[18:05] <deitarion> hrmartin: That's the idea.
[18:05] <hrmartin> deitarion: I'm still gonna get some RAM for this machine... very old should be cheap !
[18:06] <deitarion> *nod*
[18:07] <DaniG2k> guys I dont know why but my input method switcher is not showing up. is there a bug?
[18:07] <DaniG2k> it used to show up and i could switch between various languages
[18:07] <DaniG2k> but now it doesnt show up anymore
[18:08] <funto> hi all - I upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04 and Ubuntu doesn't boot anymore
[18:09] <escott> funto, what happens during the boot
[18:09] <funto> "the hard drive for / is not ready yet or is not present"
[18:09] <funto> (approximate translation)
[18:09] <funto> that's the message I get
[18:09] <escott> funto, boot a livecd/liveusb
[18:09] <john23423> ok so there isnt a way to add a run as admin when i click on a file in ubuntu
[18:09] <funto> I am prompted to press M or S, so I can get to a rescue console
[18:10] <funto> with / mounted as read-only
[18:10] <jiohdi> john23423, you can under nautilus
[18:10] <escott> funto, you could go through the rescue console, but its a bit of a pain to work with
[18:10] <funto> escott: I can use Windows in dual boot if needed
[18:10] <john23423> how is it in the file settings?
[18:10] <rethus> hi
[18:10] <jiohdi> john23423, under permissions you have to have it checked to execute
[18:11] <escott> funto, windows wont be useful. either you work through the initrd (rescue console) which is severly limited, or you boot a livecd and chroot in (the advantage is that you can join irc in the livecd and send us output)
[18:11] <jiohdi> or properties
[18:11] <rethus> i still install 12.04 at this moment. i had a 300gb hdd with a own /home-partition. on a new 80GB i install 12.04. whats the best way to install it? Can i plugin the 300GB as LVM?
[18:11] <jiohdi> john23423, its more like run as root
[18:11] <john23423> yea
[18:11] <john23423> thats what i need
[18:12] <john23423> i used to have it in previous version
[18:12] <john23423> its gone now
[18:12] <john23423> so in settings i can get it back?
[18:12] <jiohdi> you can always open a terminal and run sudo ./file
[18:12] <user101> please help me, i canno log with putty to my vmware ubuntu 11.10 server
[18:13] <john23423> i know but i liked having it in a click format i installed a thing to create a menu for naut but there must be an easyer way
[18:13] <arkanabar> I'm in a pickle.  My mobo won't boot from USB, and my CD-rom causes kernel panics when I try to boot.  Is there a way to put an Ubuntu .ISO file on my HD, and boot from that?
[18:13] <user101> is there the iptable enabled?
[18:13] <jiohdi> john23423, you can sudo cp file /usr/bin
[18:13] <jiohdi> then you should be able to open is from any where
[18:14] <jiohdi> it*
[18:14] <john23423> whats that command do
[18:14] <john23423> copy somthing?
[18:14] <jiohdi> cp =copy
[18:14] <john23423> k
[18:14] <jiohdi> anything in /usr/bin is accessable from anywhere in the system
[18:15] <john23423> i get yea
[18:15] <compdoc> arkanabar, if you have kernel panics Im not sure it will matter how you install. Or do you think there is a problem with your cd drive?
[18:15] <john23423> i tell you what linux has a come a long way
[18:15] <john23423> im impressed
[18:15] <john23423> thanks for the help btw
[18:15] <jiohdi> john23423, so has my understanding of it in the last 3 years :)
[18:15] <arkanabar> compdoc: problem w/ CD drive.  The disks work fine in my lappy
[18:15] <DJones> arkanabar: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation#Installation_without_a_CD There's various options to install without a cd listed on this page
[18:15] <john23423> lol i used it when i was a kid but
[18:16] <john23423> rusty
[18:16] <jiohdi> john23423, I am proud of my self, I was able to un-bork my system yesterday without having to do a reinstall
[18:16] <arkanabar> DJones:  looks exactly like what I was looking for.
[18:16] <john23423> unbork?
[18:16] <john23423> im a newb
[18:16] <john23423> lol
[18:16] <dlentz> jiohdi, probably not a good idea to dump stuff in /usr/bin if it doesn't belong to a .deb package (/usr/local/bin would be better)
[18:16] <jiohdi> yea, I added nvidia-current and got a blinking black screen only...
[18:17] <arkanabar> bork:  to totally Foul Up Beyond All Recognition.
[18:17] <john23423> ahhh
[18:17] <jiohdi> but I was able to recover
[18:17] <john23423> yea when i installed it lol it went blank so i thought it was messed up and restarted it
[18:17] <arkanabar> from what they did to Justice Bork when he was nominated to SCOTUS
[18:17] <john23423> finaly figured out it was supposed to do that lmaop
[18:18] <john23423> im tired of winblows
[18:18] <funto> got disconnected -_-
[18:18] <jiohdi> I am using enlightenment bodhilinux which is a ubuntu varient and it does not seem to like nvidia-current
[18:18] <john23423> needed an os change
[18:18] <arkanabar> john23423: that describes pretty much all of us.
 escott: well I can have rw access to the files from windows if needed
[18:18] <john23423> yea im runnin a asus 560
[18:18] <john23423> dont like it either
 I checked with fsck -f and it found the system clean
[18:18] <escott> funto, if you want my help you need to boot the livecd/liveusb
 and /etc/fstab didn't change with the upgrade
 and I don't see anything weird in dmesg output...
 escott: what output would be useful to you? (and thanks for helping btw :))
[18:19] <funto> escott: so I need to make one...long and painful :/
[18:19] <escott> funto, sudo parted -l; sudo blkid; contents of /etc/fstab; contents of /etc/default/grub; contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[18:20] <jiohdi> john23423, btw, check out yakuake if you want a really nifty terminal program.
[18:20] <john23423> thanks i miss this networking of info
[18:20] <john23423> i used mirc when it first came out lmao
[18:20] <jiohdi> john23423, you press a key like f12 or in my case scr lk and it pops down like a heads up display
[18:20] <john23423> lol
[18:20] <john23423> nice
[18:21] <john23423> ok im out laundry to do thanks jio you been a life saver
[18:21] <jiohdi> :)
[18:21] <john23423> have a great day
[18:21] <jiohdi> np
[18:21] <john23423> im sure ill be back lol
[18:22] <john23423> l8rz
[18:22] <alrea7> hi all
[18:23] <josip> hello, if I boot the live distribution from a USB stick, can I copy stuff to the usb stick?
[18:23] <josip> from my local hdd
[18:23] <jrdnn> hi alrea7
[18:25] <escott> josip, depends on if it is a persistent usb
[18:25] <josip> I'm just downloading the normal installation iso
[18:25] <funto> escott: one minute, trying to get all that output to something writeable from the rescue console...
[18:26] <Girffe> Hey, I'm trying to use centerIM to use IRC, but it asks me for a server address instead of a channel name. How can I get a channel's server address from its # name?
[18:26] <jrdnn> Girffe the server address is something like irc.freenode.net, you connect to the server, then join channels in it
[18:26] <jrdnn> Girffe sorry, chat.freenode.net
[18:27] <po-ta-to> hey, how can i make ubuntu look like windoze, im new
[18:27] <Girffe> so when I connect to this chat through freenode, I can do that because whoever hosts this server registered the chatroom with freenode, under the name ubuntu?
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> po-ta-to  that is an insulting question
[18:27] <boldfilter> When can we expect native mtp support
[18:28] <HackerII> running natty here, full blown install, i want a anylizer and found 'jaaa'  do i need to install and configure jack to use this ?, jaaa = jack -and- alsa anylizer ... thanks
[18:28] <po-ta-to> what
[18:28] <escott> MonkeyDust, no its not. if po-ta-to wants a windows like desktop he can use lxde
[18:28] <orated> How can copy all the files of a directory to a new directory using command cp?
[18:28] <po-ta-to> MonkeyDust, i just can't figure out how to use ubuntu
[18:28] <po-ta-to> escott, what is lxde
[18:28] <po-ta-to> is that german
[18:28] <Girffe> orated: cp directory/* newdirectory
[18:28] <po-ta-to> i think ive heard of it
[18:29] <KnightRevenge> po-ta-to, just use windows then, ubuntu isn't that great
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> po-ta-to  the best way to learn ubuntu, is by simply using it and reading about it, like we all did
[18:29] <Girffe> or cp-r will just copy the directory
[18:29] <Girffe> cp -r*
[18:29] <po-ta-to> no i don't like windows
[18:29] <po-ta-to> i keep getting viruses
[18:29] <KnightRevenge> i prefer windows 98 anyway
[18:29] <HackerII> ew
[18:29] <boldfilter> Just lold
[18:29] <escott> po-ta-to, ignore MonkeyDust. he just being a jerk. you probably want http://lubuntu.net/ you can try running "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop"
[18:29] <HackerII> el oh el
[18:29] <KnightRevenge> what's wrong with 98?
[18:30] <boldfilter> 15 years ago
[18:30] <HackerII> its what i broke my teath on
[18:30] <HackerII> its ok
[18:30] <KnightRevenge> you broke teeth on 98?
[18:30] <escott> po-ta-to, something like lubuntu is in the end a rather superficial change. its a bit like putting a ford logo on a toyota truck. but if it makes you feel more comfortable go for it
[18:30] <po-ta-to> i like dodge
[18:30] <HackerII> i went from using 2kpro to ubuntu linux, cant believe i didnt do it earlier
[18:30] <boldfilter> 98 was sweet when it cam out
[18:31] <escott> orated, cp -r for "recursive" copy
[18:31] <orated> Thanks Girffe. I thought I'll have to use recursive -r flag as well
[18:31] <po-ta-to> http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/web02/2009/11/4/13/dodge-ramfemale-vagina-12531-1257360089-14.jpg
[18:31] <orated> Ah, great
[18:31] <xangua> po-ta-to: stop that please
[18:31] <po-ta-to> ok
[18:32] <HackerII> anyway, back to my question: running natty here, full blown install, i want a anylizer and found 'jaaa'  do i need to install and configure jack to use this ?, jaaa = jack -and- alsa anylizer ... thanks
[18:32] <po-ta-to> how do i run windows programs on ubuntu
[18:32] <po-ta-to> will i get viruses if i do
[18:32] <alrea7> please im new i have my  wired network i try to conct it with my dreambox  reciver but it fail every time can u help
[18:32] <xangua> !appdb | po-ta-to
[18:32] <HackerII> !wine
[18:32] <jemark> po-ta-to: use wine
[18:32] <po-ta-to> ok ill try that
[18:33] <HackerII> read up on it before you dive into it
[18:33] <jemark> po-ta-to: or run windows in !virtualbox
[18:33] <po-ta-to> can someone help me on the setup guide
[18:33] <po-ta-to> i don't like the command line
[18:34] <po-ta-to> jemark, i hear vmware is better, but i dont have a copy of windoze
[18:34] <HackerII> the command line is scary @ first, but after a couple months using it, you cant live without it
[18:34] <HackerII> its wonderful
[18:34] <po-ta-to> my PC didn't come with a restore disk
[18:34] <HackerII> does it have a restore partition ?
[18:34] <KnightRevenge> why i like 98 so much is that it doesn't slow my computer down. xp and later, and all versions of ubuntu after 6.10 do, even though my computer is a beast
[18:34] <alrea7> i want to conect my dreambox with ubuntu wired conection but i fail what ican do idont want to go back to windows
[18:34] <po-ta-to> HackerII, whats a partition
[18:34] <jemark> po-ta-to: whu do you want to use windows?
[18:35] <xangua> !ot | KnightRevenge
[18:35] <HackerII> !partition
[18:35] <po-ta-to> jemark, i dont
[18:35] <HackerII> ?
[18:35] <po-ta-to> ubottu, it says its not found
[18:36] <KnightRevenge> oh, thats a robot! cool!
[18:36] <xangua> po-ta-to: so...just installed ubuntu and already want to install windows apps¿ why did you install ubuntu on first place¿ to run windows apps and don't use the linux native apps¿
[18:36] <KnightRevenge> hai ubottu!
[18:36] <jemark> KnightRevenge: what are you using now?
[18:36] <po-ta-to> my friend installed ubuntu for me
[18:36] <esing> how do I bound a windows share into ubuntu?
[18:36] <KnightRevenge> windows 98 se
[18:36] <HackerII> hes prolly experimenting
[18:36] <po-ta-to> i asked for a way to get away from viruses, and he installed linux
[18:37] <jemark> po-ta-to: nice, and he also told you how to use irc?
[18:37] <po-ta-to> yeah
[18:37] <KnightRevenge> and expermenting with ubuntu 6
[18:37] <po-ta-to> he told me to go here for support
[18:37] <po-ta-to> its the best way
[18:37] <jemark> po-ta-to: did you also use irc in windows?
[18:37] <jemark> po-ta-to: did you also use irc in windows?
[18:37] <po-ta-to> FUCK ALL OF YOU
[18:37] <po-ta-to> UBUNTU SUCKS
[18:37] <jemark> KnightRevenge: that's a bit outdated
[18:37] <FloodBot1> po-ta-to: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:38] <hrmartin> deitarion: I've been running at 460 Free since being on Lubuntu. Chromium seems to be less hungry than Chrome as well
[18:38] <KnightRevenge> why are all these people leaving and joining to spam!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
[18:38] <hrmartin> deitarion: thanks for the tips
[18:38] <dlentz> !op
[18:38] <Myrtti> dlentz: a bit late?
[18:38] <jrdnn> Girffe, yes
[18:38] <jemark> KnightRevenge: you can ignore the join and part messages in your irc client
[18:39] <KnightRevenge> STOP SPAMMING YOU BASTARDS
[18:39] <Zylum> KnightRevenge, it's only spam if it's more than usual
[18:39] <KnightRevenge> LINUX SUCKS DICK BAI
[18:39] <esing> at least irc can handle spammers, in warcraft 3 there are clan channels down for weaks because there is no anti spam
[18:39] <Myrtti> move on
[18:39] <jemark> esing: indeed
[18:39] <Myrtti> discussing trolls and spam gives them confirmation that their approach is working
[18:39] <dlentz> sorry Myrtti, i was pretty sure they were troling, but i didn't want to be alarmist
[18:40] <Myrtti> back to business folks
[18:40] <jemark> I don't see the join and part messages because I disabled those
[18:40] <esing> hehe I should do that either
[18:40] <jemark> esing: yeah
[18:41] <HackerII> they dont need conformation, they just love the attention, nuff said.
[18:41] <jemark> just a small question, do I appear in the #ubuntu channel or the #ubuntu-unregistered?
[18:41] <HackerII> ?
[18:42] <alrea7> how i can configure my wired network im using ubuntu ????????????????????????????????????
[18:43] <HackerII> yes jemark  your shell is listed
[18:43] <jemark> HackerII: nice
[18:43] <alrea7>  how i can configure my wired network im using ubuntu ???????????????????
[18:43] <funkwarrior> Hello, I just wondering if it's possible to install php4 on a ubuntu 12.04 and how
[18:43] <funkwarrior> it's just a test
[18:43] <HackerII> alrea7:  did you install ubuntu on a hard line ?
[18:43] <erinaceus_> funkwarrior: look for php4 in the repo?
[18:43] <funto_> escott: in case you're still here: my /etc/fstab is here: http://pastebin.com/zRtqqwjw
[18:43] <jemark> alrea7: when you plug your ethernet cable in your nic, you should have an ip address assigned if you have dhcp enabled in your router
[18:44] <funkwarrior> alrea7: what do you mean?
[18:44] <esing> jemark dont understand your quesiton. if you write in #ubuntu you appear too
[18:44] <escott> funto_, when you get the other stuff i can compare
[18:44] <jemark> alrea7: in other words: normally you should not need to do anything besides opening a web brower and surf :)
[18:44] <funto_> parted -l here: http://pastebin.com/GME07w5C
[18:44] <jemark> esing: so, what's the problem?
[18:45] <funkwarrior> erinaceus_: correct me if I'm wrong, but php4 it's not supported since 08/2011 cause vulnerability issues and seems not be in the repos
[18:45] <esing> jemark you asked whether you appear in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-unregistered
[18:45] <funto_> blkid: http://pastebin.com/Dk1TnZKA
[18:45] <esing> jemark but if you write in #ubuntu this implies you also are listed
[18:45] <funto_> escott: and I have nothing for the GRUB files you mentionned as I still use GRUB 1
[18:46] <esing> how do I bound a windows share into ubuntu?
[18:46] <alrea7> i have my dreambox iwant to share it with internet
[18:46] <escott> funto_, then menu.lst
[18:46] <funto_> escott: 1 minute :)
[18:47] <ra4king> HOLY MOTHER OF GOD
[18:47] <ra4king> 1680 PEOPLE?!?!
[18:47] <ra4king> WHAT IN THE ACTUAL F*CK?
[18:47] <Fuchs> ra4king: a bit less caps, maybe :)
[18:47] <ra4king> sorry
[18:47] <Fuchs> also please watch your language.
[18:47] <xangua> !language | ra4king
[18:47] <ra4king> what in the actual mother of god?
[18:47] <dlentz> !op
[18:47] <ra4king> better? :)
[18:47] <ra4king> xangua: btw, i like that piping action with the bot
[18:48] <ra4king> quite origin
[18:48] <ra4king> original*
[18:48] <Myrtti> ra4king: did you have an actual question?
[18:48] <HackerII> slow down son
[18:48] <ra4king> nah I'm just super excited to be here
[18:48] <Datz> what to do if sound suddenly stops working?
[18:48] <Myrtti> ra4king: tune down, keep calm and mind the language
[18:48] <ra4king> Myrtti: i've never cursed in my life sir!
[18:49] <jrdnn> !guidelines > jrdnn
[18:49] <escott> funto_, blkid, fstab, and parted all look good. so the problem is either in menu.lst or something about the new kernel that is causing a race condition in bringing up sda. for someone like yourself still using grub1 i recommend doing the conversion to grub2. you are increasingly in the minority, and im not sure what the proper incantation is to make grub1 do a root-delay, but i do with grub2
[18:49] <funto_> escott: menu.lst is here: http://pastebin.com/vxFRj18B
[18:50] <escott> funto_, i thought you said this happened after an upgrade of some form?
[18:50] <KRomo> what is better than ext4 ?
[18:50] <KRomo> for a booit drive
[18:50] <KRomo> boot
[18:50] <funto_> hmm...ok but I admit upgrading grub makes me worried, I think I need to do some backups first then ^^
[18:50] <KRomo> xfs>
[18:50] <funto_> escott: yes, I just upgraded from one LTS version to the next
[18:50] <funto_> 10.04 to 12.04
[18:50] <dlentz> kromo, it depends on your application, ext4 gives best performance generally
[18:51] <funto_> upgrade-manager -d or something like that ^^
[18:51] <escott> funto_, your menu.lst does not reflect that
[18:51] <funto_> ah?
[18:51] <escott> funto_, it only shows the 10.04 kernels. i suspect you need to do the conversion to grub2
[18:51] <CrazyGangster> KRomo: use xfs just for large files, reiserfs is my advice
[18:51] <Datz> what to do if sound suddenly stops working?
[18:52] <raven> recent update within 12.04 xubuntu = NO network any more on eeepc 1005 ha - how to reparir that
[18:52] <dlentz> raven, wired or wireless?
[18:52] <raven> dlentz wireless
[18:52] <funto_> escott: menu.lst refers to Ubuntu 10.04 but I think that's just the displayed label
[18:53] <funto_> the kernel version number corresponds to the one uname -a returns
[18:53] <dlentz> raven, do you know what wireless adapter it is? (lspci)
[18:53] <funto_> namely, 2.6.32-34
[18:53] <escott> funto_, no its booting a 2.6 kernel. we are up to 3.2 now
[18:53] <raven> dlentz yes i do atheros ar9285
[18:53] <funto_> hmm...right
[18:54] <funto_> I compared with what uname -a gave me from the rescue console
[18:55] <HackerII> raven:  maybe open network connections and fill it in ?
[18:55] <HackerII> create one
[18:55] <dlentz> raven, is rfkill blocking it (command: rfkill list all)
[18:55] <hackerhacker> opa
[18:55] <xangua> funto_: are you sure the upgrade went ok¿ did ubuntu put to hibernate during the install¿
[18:55] <HackerII> i have a eeepc 1005 it works wonderful for suc a tiny thing
[18:55] <raven> HackerII list is grey no creating possible
[18:56] <HackerII> can you hook to etho ?
[18:56] <funto_> xangua: it went ok, then asked me to reboot
[18:56] <raven> dlentz no nothing blocked
[18:56] <funto_> which was in the normal installation process
[18:56] <jemark> escott: can you open the terminal?
[18:57] <escott> jemark, did you mean to send that to someone else?
[18:58] <raven> HackerII no but could you eyplain why a simple update in ubuntu still is not possible wihtout any accident!!!
[18:58] <dlentz> raven, you might be getting hit by bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/773154
[18:59] <jemark> escott: no, but how an you connect to irc when you hae no connection? are you using a different computer? i could do a remote connetion if you could connect with a ethernet cable to your network port, if you like.
[18:59] <dlentz> rave, see comment 41 for possible workarounds: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/773154/comments/41
[18:59] <HackerII> raven: , the kernel has many device drivers and things updated, to me, it might need to be made to see it all over again, go in your menues and click network connections and see if you can create one
[18:59] <escott> jemark, i dont know who you are or what your problem is
[18:59] <raven> i had NO distri upgrade which still made possible to work with the system because its trash then
[19:00] <raven> HackerII no i cannot as i have said
[19:00] <HackerII> i have the same machine, the AR9285 is not slow, and works wonderful
[19:00] <dlentz> HackerII, are you using G or N mode?
[19:00] <raven> and that solves my problem how?
[19:01] <jemark> escott: what's the issue?
[19:01] <escott> jemark, i dont have one. i think you hae me confused
[19:01] <funto_> raven: never had a clean distrib upgrade of Ubuntu either
[19:01] <raven> what has happened to the friendly and polite relationship in this channel and in the whole community
[19:02] <funto_> that's why I sticked to LTS versions, but as you see I get even more problems now -_-
[19:02] <jemark> escott: where are you confused about? don't you know what is a terminal?
[19:02] <escott> jemark, stop trolling
[19:03] <jemark> escott: i thought you have a wireless issue but it seems you have no issues at all. that's great
[19:03] <Datz> Hi, I have a few problems. My audio stopped working suddenly, also, my mouse doesn't work at boot unless I unplug and plug it back in. Any ideas?
[19:04] <Datz> Are drivers not being loaded for some reason?
[19:04] <jemark> Datz: try another port, or try another mouse
[19:04] <HackerII> huh, maybe i missed it, he upgraded ?, not a clean install ?
[19:05] <Datz> jemark: the mouse is fine once I replug it.
[19:05] <Datz> it's like drivers aren't being loaded. My audio doesn't work either
[19:05] <jemark> Datz: that's nice but did you try what I suggested?
[19:05] <Datz> jemark: for audio?
[19:05] <Datz> I thought you meant usb port for the mouse.
[19:06] <funto_> cat /lsb-release says DISTRIB_RELEASE=10.04
[19:06] <jemark> Datz: indeed
[19:06] <funto_> does that mean that the dist-upgrade went wrong?
[19:07] <Datz> jemark: no change
[19:07] <jemark> Datz: do a lsusb in your terminal
[19:08] <jemark> Datz: are you using a usb hub?
[19:08] <Datz> Bus 004 Device 004: ID 046d:c03d Logitech, Inc. M-BT96a Pilot Optical Mouse
[19:08] <Datz> I am not
[19:08] <Datz> everything was fine until today, then these problems started occurring
[19:08] <l1nk> hello peeps
[19:08] <Datz> both at once. I assume they must be related
[19:09] <l1nk> can anyone help me out with a few simple questions?
[19:09] <Datz> think there were some updates I installed yesterday too
[19:09] <JoseeAntonioR> !ask | l1nk
[19:09] <twig11> I'd appreciate any help I can get troubleshooting some errors that are popping up every time I log in to my Dell Optiplex GX520. It started happening after I made some changes to try to get an ATI Radeon PCI graphics card running. I couldn't get the card to do 3D, so I tried to revert my changes to go back to the onboard Intel graphics. Now, although graphics seem to work okay, I get several dialog windows popping up to tell me Ubuntu has experienced an internal e
[19:09] <twig11> rror. For starters, here's a pastebin of my Xorg.0.log: paste.ubuntu.com/1032321/
[19:09] <Datz> Pluse audio is installed by default. why isn't alsamixer installed?
[19:10] <l1nk> how do I remove the Ubuntu One button from the list when I click on the message icon (upper right)
[19:12] <jemark> Datz: i think you
[19:12] <dan_> hello
[19:12] <l1nk> twigli btw ati radeon grapihs ( i have the same ) have shit tier support on ubuntu, you're better of finding something else if you wanna make even a bit of use of your card
[19:12] <jemark> Datz: i think your mouse is wireless
[19:12] <l1nk> graphics*
[19:12] <arooni-mobile> hi folks kde kalarm doesnt seem to work on ubuntu.  is there another program that can do text based alarms (reminders to do stuff) at certain times?  or is ther ea way to make kde kalarm work on ubuntu 12.04?  (error: ProcessControl: Application 'akonadiserver' returned with exit code 255 (Unknown error))
[19:12] <Datz> jemark: you are incorrect
[19:12] <l1nk> how do I remove the Ubuntu One button from the list when I click on the message icon (upper right)
[19:12] <IdleOne> l1nk: Please keep the language clean
[19:12] <jemark> Datz: ic
[19:13] <Datz> jemark: my suspicion is right: aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found...
[19:13] <Datz> drivers aren't being loaded
[19:13] <Datz> ... how fun.
[19:14] <Datz> I feel like I'm using linux in 1993  :P
[19:14] <dlentz> Datz, check dmesg to see why
[19:14] <jemark> Datz: which mice did you try? you tried serveral mice in several usb ports right, all have the same issue that you need to unplug them and plug them back in after you booted up?
[19:14] <l1nk> !patience
[19:14] <Datz> kk
[19:14] <jrdnn> dan_, hi
[19:14] <l1nk> how do I remove the Ubuntu One button from the list when I click on the message icon (upper right)
[19:14] <Ansikt> Hey, I got a computer with a hardware RAID.  Will it be possible to install linux and preserve the current RAID setup?
[19:15] <Datz> dlentz: too much output, what should I filter?
[19:15] <jemark> Ansikt: why not?
[19:15] <l1nk> how do I remove the Ubuntu One button from the list when I click on the message icon (upper right)
[19:15] <dlentz> Datz, you can pastebin it or maybe dmesg | grep -i alsa
[19:15] <Ansikt> jemark:  I've never done it, and so don't know if it can be done.  Is it involved?
[19:15] <jemark> Ansikt: the OS will just see the disk space as once disk.
[19:15] <Ansikt> jemark:  Sexxxy
[19:16] <sirriffsalot> I'm trying to use youtube-dl with the --ectract-audio option but all the videos end up being 10.0MB and non-playable...?
[19:16] <Datz> dlentz: thanks. I'll try alsa first
[19:16] <Datz> dlentz: [    8.349972] init: alsa-restore main process (906) terminated with status 19
[19:16] <escott> Ansikt, real hardware raid or intel bios raid
[19:16] <Datz> wonder what status 19 is
[19:16] <jemark> Ansikt: yes, since the controller created a virtual disk from more physical disks the OS will see the disk space as once disk, you just need to make the partitions and format the disk
[19:17] <l1nk> how do I remove the Ubuntu One button from the list when I click on the message icon (upper right) ?
[19:17] <dlentz> Datz, yeah, that's what i thought. wish i knew the solution :\
[19:17] <l1nk> seriously, nobody knows?
[19:17] <Datz> dlentz: d'oh
[19:17] <Ansikt> escott:  Real hardware raid.  Separate RAID controller and errythang
[19:17] <twig11> l1nk: Not sure if this works on 12.04 but might be worth a try:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/58413/remove-ubuntu-one-from-messaging-indicator Google is your friend. Also, please try not to repeat the question more than once every 5-10 minutes. I'm waiting for an answer myself right now, but these people are volunteers.
[19:17] <Datz> dlentz: last think I did was install audacity... does that mean anything?
[19:17] <dlentz> i've seen a lot of bugs with that dmesg line
[19:18] <dougl> how do I make my kde taskbar at the bottom of my screen automatically hide on my 12.04 install?
[19:18] <Ansikt> jemark:  Badass, will do.  I had an old opensuse livecd that I used to test if the thing turned on, and it wouldn't mount any of the raid disks.
[19:18] <Datz> dlentz: interesting. May my mouse problem be related? It doesn't work until I plug it back in.
[19:18] <Ansikt> But my intention was to use Ubuntu, and the old livecd was definitely an OLD livecd.
[19:19] <alrea7> any one use dreambox with ubuntu ???????????????
[19:19] <wylde_> dougl: right click on the bar, Panel Options >> Panel Settings >> More Settings >> Auto-Hide
[19:19] <jemark> Ansikt: you would need to partition and format it first. So, live CD won't do, just install the OS and during the OS install you can partition and it will format the disk.
[19:19] <dlentz> Datz i don't think audacity has anything to do with it, it has something to do with your saved alsa settings not beingrestored
[19:20] <dougl> wylde, thanks - will give it a try
[19:20] <Datz> dlentz: I see. Is there a way to revert back to default? ALso, why does alsamixer not run, any ideas?>
[19:20] <Ansikt> jemark:  So, I can't see the data on the disks?  I have to reformat them?  Bummer.  Why doesn't the liveCD see RAID?
[19:20] <dlentz> alsamixer won't run because of that bug
[19:20] <escott> Ansikt, did you load the required kernel module for the card
[19:20] <Datz> dlentz: I see..
[19:21] <jemark> Ansikt: let me see
[19:21] <escott> Ansikt, its entirely possible that the livecd just doesnt have the raid controller modules, in which case you should use the !alternate cd which should have all kernel modules
[19:21] <Datz> dlentz: I saved my home directory when I upgraded. might an old alsa directory be the problem?
[19:21] <dlentz> bbl
[19:22] <Datz> kk
[19:22] <arooni-mobile> i recently had a hard drive crash and i only had a ntfs hard drive to do the backup on.  so i think all of my permissions for .* directories are 700... i have already experienced some apps behaving funkily.  in any case, is there any harm in doing a+r, a+w .. for all the .directories in my /home?
[19:22] <escott> arooni-mobile, yes
[19:22] <dlentz> sorry Datz , real life needs attending :\
[19:22] <sirriffsalot> I'm trying to use youtube-dl with the --ectract-audio option but all the videos end up being 10.0MB and non-playable...?
[19:22] <arooni-mobile> escott, theres harm in doing that?
[19:23] <escott> arooni-mobile, yes. various applications require that files only be readable by that user. you won't be able to use your ssh private key if it is 777
[19:23] <jemark> escott: alternate is not a live cd
[19:23] <arooni-mobile> escott, ok with the exception of ssh
[19:23] <escott> jemark, im aware of that
[19:23] <jemark> escott: so, you can't mount it via the alterate cd, right?
[19:24] <escott> arooni-mobile, anything else like ssh that would have private data that should not be readable by others might complain (or it might not check)
[19:24] <arooni-mobile> escott, got it ; thanks
[19:24] <HackerII> brb
[19:24] <escott> jemark, he might be able to mount by going to tty1
[19:24] <Ansikt> escott:  No, I did not.  How would I know which modules my controller needs?
[19:25] <mongy> sirriffsalot,  what is the exact command you are using.
[19:25] <escott> Ansikt, what kind of controller is it?
[19:26] <sirriffsalot> mongy: youtube-dl -t --extract-audio (url)
[19:26] <mongy> sirriffsalot,  try youtube-dl --extract-audio --audio-format=mp3 -t (url)
[19:27] <sirriffsalot> mongo: sorry disconnected. after it gets to 100% nothing happens..
[19:28] <sirriffsalot> mongo: if I press enter it says it's done etc... but always the same problem
[19:28] <mongy> sirriffsalot,  try youtube-dl --extract-audio --audio-format=mp3 -t (url)
[19:28] <sirriffsalot> mongo: just noticed that this same problem happens if I simply do youtube-dl (url) =(
[19:28] <mongy> sirriffsalot, I think it needs ffmpeg installed also, if that might be an issue.
[19:28] <sirriffsalot> mongo: I have that=(
[19:28] <sirriffsalot> Or..
[19:28] <sirriffsalot> Haang on
[19:28] <Ansikt> escott:  Dunno.  Any commands I could use to find out?
[19:29] <Kentrel> Hey, my sound in Ubuntu definitely sounds more muffled than it does when I boot into Windows. Is this a mixer problem or something else
[19:29] <escott> Ansikt, lspci
[19:29] <mongy> sirriffsalot, do you have the latest version ?
[19:29] <sirriffsalot> mongo: yes, I do have it.. it came with installing youtube-dl
[19:29] <sirriffsalot> mongo: 4:0.8.1 is what I have...
[19:29] <mongy> sirriffsalot, latest version of youtube-dl?
[19:30] <sirriffsalot> mongo: when I type youtube-dl in synaptic only one option appears so...
[19:30] <sirriffsalot> mongo: 2012.02.27-1 is the one I have
[19:30] <mongy> sirriffsalot,   ok good.
[19:30] <sirriffsalot> mongo: no, this is getting worse, how can this be good?:D
[19:30] <v1adimir> Kentrel: might depend on your motherboard, if it's the integrated sound; so drivers.. but volume for me is lower - sound cleaner if that helps
[19:30] <mongy> sirriffsalot, want me to try with your url ?
[19:30] <jemark> escott: i am also wondering which hw raid controller Ansikt has in a pc...
[19:31] <sirriffsalot> mongo: sure, hang on
[19:31] <Kentrel> vladimir, but I reboot into Windows with the same motherboard?
[19:31] <docmur> Does any one here have a good guide to set up bridge networking on a VM using KVM, on Ubuntu 12.04.  The ubuntu guide is horrible, I followed it didn't work  at all
[19:32] <sirriffsalot> mongo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMTtPhQUSgM
[19:32] <v1adimir> Kentrel: it's different drivers.. in windows, they even come on the CD from the mobo manufacturer.. in linux they're 'some' drivers for that chip for example; might not be your-model-specific even
[19:32] <sirriffsalot> mongo: for the record it's the piano-business in the middle that I am after lol
[19:32] <mongy> Destination: The Best Of Mr. Bean.flv  60mb
[19:32] <komeil> hi, how can i install ubuntu 12.04 inside windows 7
[19:32] <komeil> ?
[19:33] <esing> hello
[19:33] <v1adimir> komeil: using a VM software, but it kinda defeats the prupose of linux
[19:33] <esing> what is the current ubuntu desktop?
[19:33] <esing> LightDM ß
[19:33] <esing> ?
[19:33] <esing> i just updated to 12.04 and I can chose between LightDM and LXDM
[19:33] <esing> what should i chose
[19:34] <v1adimir> komeil: what i did was free up some space at the end of my hdd and used the livecd to dual boot xubuntu
[19:34] <sirriffsalot> mongo: disconnected again..:P
[19:34] <mongy> sirriffsalot, I see your problem then...
[19:34] <Ansikt> haha, escott: lspci: command not found D;
[19:34] <komeil> v1adimir: i use vrtual clonedrive! but i cant find any button for install inside windows
[19:34] <jemark> Ansikt: are you still here?
[19:34] <mongy> sirriffsalot, you aren't getting the whole file if you get 10mb.  The one I'm getting is 60mb
[19:34] <sirriffsalot> mongo: obviously..:/
[19:35] <sirriffsalot> But it says 100% and I ented and it says done:P
[19:35] <v1adimir> komeil: it's a virtual machine, like http://www.vmware.com/products/player
[19:35] <Ansikt> jemark, yeah, just also talking to people IRL.  No lspci, it seems.
[19:35] <sirriffsalot> mongo: and I press enter*
[19:35] <jemark> Ansikt: where did you type that command?
[19:35] <escott> Ansikt, you are in the livecd?
[19:35] <Dr_Willis> esing:  normal ubuntu defaults to lightdm
[19:35] <esing> Dr_Willis I thought unity
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> esing:  you are confus3eing the LOGIN manager with the 'Desktop'
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> !info lightdm
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> !info lxdm
[19:36] <esing> !info LXDE
[19:36] <mongy> sirriffsalot, while downloading what does it say progress is.   xx of xx mb?
[19:36] <sirriffsalot> mongo: hmm.. when I simply try to extract video now it works, but only if I press enter without being told to etc...
[19:36] <esing> Dr_willis oh I see !!!
[19:36] <esing> Dr_willis so i better chose LightDM
[19:36] <sirriffsalot> mongo: the progress says the usual... 100% etc..
[19:36] <esing> because LXDM is not much devloped right !! ??
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> esing:  flip a coin.. i doubt if it matters much
[19:37] <esing> heh :)
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> its trivial to switch
[19:37] <Dr_Willis> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[19:37] <esing> good to know
[19:37] <esing> thanks
[19:38] <Mr_MeatWad> anyone here know of a good ip blocker like peerblock for windows?
[19:38] <Dr_Willis> Mr_MeatWad:  you are wanting to blovk ips for what reason?
[19:39] <esing> i just read unity will be replaced again in 12.10 is that true ?
[19:39] <cscsaba> hello, i made some aliases in .bashrc and they dont work, why ?
[19:39] <cscsaba> how can i activate them ?
[19:39] <jemark> esing: replaced by what?
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> esing:  i think you miss-read
[19:39] <hash> ok so im getting a disk storage warning andf the majority of files that are costing space under my log folder like 200GB of .log and .gz files am i able to delete any/some of them to free up space
[19:39] <esing> I read that unity-2D will be removed
[19:39] <Dr_Willis> cscsaba:  log oyut/back in or 'source .bashrc' to load them
[19:39] <escott>  cscsaba, what are the aliases, and how are you starting bash (normal terminal window?)
[19:39] <mongy> sirriffsalot, I'm stumped then, it works fine here.
[19:39] <Ansikt> jemark, escott:  Oh, I'm dumb.  lspci wasn't in my PATH.  The controllers are a Promise Technology PDC20378, and a VIA Technology VIA VT6420
[19:39] <Mr_MeatWad> for many reasons
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> esing:  unity-2d is going to be replaced by unity/compiz... so is that really unity getting removed. :)
[19:40] <LjL> esing: that's a bit different from Unity being replaced
[19:40] <cscsaba> escott: thanks
[19:40] <Mr_MeatWad> but i was just curious if anyone knew one that worked weel
[19:40] <esing> oh i see :D
[19:40] <Mr_MeatWad> well*
[19:40] <esing> thanks :D
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> Mr_MeatWad:  totally depends on what you are wanting to secure.. people hammering your ssh server = fail2ban or other tools can auto blacklist ips.
[19:41] <esing> ok leaving this PC work, installing 12.04 takes 2-3 hours gosh ^^
[19:41] <cscsaba> escott: they are fine :)
[19:41] <cscsaba> escott: really thanks
[19:41] <reisio> a good password and keys should keep ssh secure
[19:41] <wylde_> Mr_MeatWad: you can create ufw rules to prevent outgoing connections to specific ips
[19:41] <escott> Ansikt, thats sata_promise the via is just your normal southbridge
[19:41] <reisio> keeping it from being hammered is another thing
[19:41] <jemark> Ansikt: it's a Sata raid contoller as far I can read that on in the internet
[19:41] <BobMarley> hi, is here somebody using git? i have changed some files and i dont know hot to update them
[19:42] <reisio> BobMarley: that pretty much sums up git
[19:42] <reisio> -> #git
[19:43] <sirriffsalot> mongo: so am I, hang on
[19:43] <msch> do i need to do anything to register a file in /etc/init with upstart? or will it be picked up automatically? (and started at the next runlevel change if i have specified that)
[19:43] <Ansikt> jemark, escott:  Seems to be using sata_via and sata_promise, as well as sata1
[19:43] <escott> Ansikt, these say both are fakeraid of some kind but it seems to think the promise is a bit better than most fakeraid http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
[19:43] <sirriffsalot> mongo: does this exact command work? youtube-dl --extract-audio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMTtPhQUSgM&feature=related
[19:44] <aakskalalaala> hi guys, i'm going to buy a laptop with this ATI video adapter- Radeon HD 6370M.  will all drivers work fine and XVBA to accelerate HD playback the same as my VDPAU does on my curent nvidia laptop? thanks!
[19:44] <mongy> sirriffsalot, trying it now
[19:44] <sirriffsalot> mongo: appreciate it:)
[19:44] <mongy> sirriffsalot, bit slow my end.
[19:45] <BobMarley> reisio, i am not able to send to channel #git ! i dont know why
[19:45] <reisio> BobMarley: pretty liberal modes in that channel, you're probably banned
[19:46] <escott> Ansikt, what i'm seeing would suggest you are better off just using these as sata controllers and using mdadm instead of trying to use their raid functionality
[19:46] <sirriffsalot> mongo: youtube-dl --extract-audio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMTtPhQUSgM this one worked, gonna try with the extract audio..
[19:46] <sirriffsalot> mongo: scratch that lol
[19:46] <damms005> Pls help with find command
[19:46] <sirriffsalot> mongo: already did that
[19:46] <BobMarley> reisio, NO, that is the 1 time that i get there
[19:46] <DJones> !register | BobMarley Some channels require you to register your nick with freenode before you can talk in  them
[19:46] <sirriffsalot> mongo: lemme know what is wrong with what I tried earlier if you spot it?:)
[19:46] <mongy> sirriffsalot,  it's mongy btw.
[19:46] <damms005> I want to find files with size less than 2kb
[19:47] <reisio> BobMarley: still the most likely reason
[19:47] <Jonii> Hey, for some reason gnome-power-statistics doesn't close properly, causing all new attempts to view state of my laptop battery to fail(clicking battery icon and that "battery" text results in blank window being opened)
[19:47] <Jonii> Is there anything I could do about that?
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> http://www.unix.com/unix-advanced-expert-users/12532-command-list-files-less-than-equal-2k-size.html
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> google is so handy.. ;)
[19:48] <jemark> Ansikt: there is software in the controller... better to use the software raid in linux than a software raid controller because if the controller breaks, you can't recover the data easily.
[19:48] <Jonii> I can manually end that process, and then view battery state, but come on, it's a nasty bug no matter how you look at it
[19:49] <ClientAlive> Can anyone help? I'm having a problem verifying that nfs server is set up and running. When I do a "rpcinfo quota" I get the error printed to the screen: "rpcinfo: can't contact rpcbind: RPC: (unknown error code)"  I verify that it is indeed installed with a "install rpcbind" and get a line in the output "rpcbind is already the newest version."  I'm running ubuntu 12.04 server and going off of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNF
[19:49] <ClientAlive> SHowTo#NFS_Server   suplemented with  http://nfs.sourceforge.net/nfs-howto/ar01s03.html  to perform the install/ setup. Can anyone please help me resolve this issue?
[19:49] <escott> Ansikt, not to mention the risks inherent in loading a binary blob and letting it manage your crucial data
[19:49] <reisio> BobMarley: but I don't see you on the ban list, either
[19:49] <jemark> escott: indeed
[19:49] <twig11> I'd appreciate some help with troubleshooting some weird errors I get at login. I think it's due to some changes I made  to graphics drivers trying to upgrade my intel onboard graphics to an ATI Radeon PCI card. Couldn't get the card to do 3D and I don't think I successfully reverted all my changes when I switched back to the onboard video. Xorg.0.log is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1032321/
[19:50] <jemark> Ansikt: for a hardware raid controller you would pay a bit more...
[19:50] <BobMarley> reisio, yes i had to go here http://jk.gs/git/bot/voice.php and make some voice
[19:50] <damms005> I use find ./ -size -10k -exec ls -lh '{}' \; to get the output before rm them but I see files even in 153K
[19:50] <reisio> BobMarley: weird, maybe it has something to do with new users
[19:50] <BobMarley> reisio, now i can talk there
[19:51] <reisio> BobMarley: weird, maybe it has something to do with new users
[19:51] <damms005> Dr_Willis: I use find ./ -size -10k -exec ls -lh '{}' \; to get the output before rm them but I see files even of 153K listed by ls
[19:51] <sirriffsalot> mongy: anything?:P Is highest quality by default?
[19:52] <jemark> Ansikt: when I googled, I saw a thread in a gentoo forum from 2005
[19:52] <mongy> sirriffsalot, '-b' is default afaik
[19:52] <Rickardo_> I got "server.csr: No such file or directory" when  openssl x509 -req -days 365 -in server.csr -signkey server.key -out server.crt
[19:52] <mongy> sirriffsalot, so, yes.  still downloading...
[19:52] <sirriffsalot> mongy: issuing -b you mean?
[19:52] <damms005> Dr_Willis: I use find ./ -size -10 -exec ls -lh '{}' \; to get the output before rm them but I see files even of 153K listed by ls
[19:52] <sirriffsalot> mongy: hmm, strange.. what could that me?
[19:52] <ClientAlive> I should clarify: I have an alias set up so when I do "install..." it is really "sudo install..." same thing, sorry
[19:52] <mongy> sirriffsalot, ok with your command it's using ffmpeg to convert to aac
[19:52] <Datz> dlentz: I think I found the root of the problem. I have a SD card reader. A mico to regular SD card was inserted without an acutall card. Post was taking forever trying to boot. I think it was creating problems with loading drivers too for some reason. Mouse back working, as well as sound.
[19:53] <sirriffsalot> mongy: TO aac?
[19:53] <sirriffsalot> mongy: it worked now and it is aac
[19:53] <damms005> Dr_Willis: I use find ./ -size -10 -exec ls -lh '{}' \; to get the output before rm them but I see files even of 153K listed by ls...I thought the -10 arguement for -size should match files less than 5kb
[19:53] <wylde_> !patience | damms005
[19:53] <mongy> sirriffsalot, stopped at 10mb... no output in terminal asking me anything either.
[19:54] <sirriffsalot> mongy: yeah with me too. but with the latest one it worked, but the quality is horrible, so trying with "-b" cheers:)
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> damms005:  this seems to work for me -->  find ./ -size -4k -exec ls -lh '{}' \;
[19:54] <sirriffsalot> mongy: but ffmpeg can convert aac, so why does that matter?
[19:54] <Datz> Dr_Willis: hi. Glad to see you're still around. :)
[19:54] <mongy> sirriffsalot, ok so that file wont play properly..  use the mp3 option
[19:54] <dougl> wylde, thanks - will give it a try => works like a charm...
[19:54] <damms005> okay wylde_ . thanks
[19:54] <escott> damms005, i think you need a k
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> Datz:  for about 2 more min.. its bed time.
[19:54] <Datz> Dr_Willis: I mean, after all these years. But good night bud. ;)
[19:54] <wylde_> dougl:  good stuff :)
[19:54] <Dr_Willis> Datz:  ;P
[19:55] <mongy> he disconnected again, arghhh
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> You kids get off my lawn!
[19:55] <Datz> lol
[19:55] <dougl> anyone know how to make the taskbar unhide while running recordmydesktop... is there a hotkey or something?
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> dougl  use MyUnity
[19:55] <damms005> Dr_Willis: Does that match files less than 2kb or 4kb? Someone said I will use a "c " for -size. I am confused and none of these seem to work for me
[19:55] <Dr_Willis> dougl:  list of shortcuts can be seen if you hold the super key. :)
[19:55] <twig11> I'd appreciate some help with troubleshooting some weird errors I get at login. I think it's due to some changes I made  to graphics drivers trying to upgrade my intel onboard graphics to an ATI Radeon PCI card. Couldn't get the card to do 3D and I don't think I successfully reverted all my changes when I switched back to the onboard video. Xorg.0.log is at http://paste.ubuntu.com/1032321/
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> damms005:  no idea. its just showing a bunch of tiny files. I dont see any more then 4k
[19:56] <wylde_> damms005: I may be mistaken but I thought c was for bytes
[19:56] <Dr_Willis> must be less then 4k - i see a 3k file...
[19:56] <damms005> weird. why me?
[19:57] <Dr_Willis> Night all...
[19:57] <dougl> MonkeyDust, Dr_Willis - err, using kde and kde taskbar.... what is the 'super key'
[19:57] <mongy> sirriffsalot,  as for -b it's using it by default, and it;s downloading an flv as that is the best available.  the aac did play, it was my fault, low volume.  its a very quiet audio file.
[19:57] <wolfgang> deitarion: Hay my comp froze you there?
[19:57] <Dr_Willis> dougl:  you could have mentioned kde first. :) super key -= windows key. shows unity shortcuts
[19:57] <Polah> dougl, super is usually the Windows key
[19:57] <wylde_> dougl: super is aka windows key
[19:57] <deitarion> wolfgang: Yeah.
[19:57] <dougl> LOL - hey thanks guys
[19:57] <wolfgang> It froze
[19:57] <wolfgang> forry
[19:57] <Dr_Willis> If you have a TUX logo on your windows key.. then its a "Super Duper" key. :P
[19:57] <wolfgang> sorry
[19:57] <sirriffsalot> mongy: alright, hehe.. cheers:) How do I list all the available formats again?
[19:57] <deitarion> wolfgang: No problem.
[19:58] <Dr_Willis> Night
[19:58] <mongy> sirriffsalot, man youtube-dl
[19:58] <sirriffsalot> mongy: haven't fount it yet, but ok:)
[19:58] <aakskalalaala> hi, i'm going to buy a laptop with this ATI video adapter- Radeon HD 6370M.  will all drivers work fine and XVBA to accelerate HD playback the same as my VDPAU does on my curent nvidia laptop? thanks!
[19:59] <mongy> sirriffsalot, "By default, youtube-dl will download the best available format"
[20:00] <ClientAlive> the only relevant info I see by googling: "rpcinfo: can't contact rpcbind: RPC: (unknown error code)" is involving suse not ubuntu. There are no results displayed from googlubuntu.com so I'm stuck on this one
[20:00] <sirriffsalot> mongy: yeah, want the lowest, hehe;D
[20:00] <mongy> sirriffsalot, -f then
[20:01] <New0> hi everyone. when i click Try Ubuntu instead of the installation. where do i have usb-creator? or do i have to install it. (i know gParted is there) but not usb-creator. ntx
[20:01] <New0> *tnx
[20:01] <MonkeyDust> New0  what do you want to do or accomplish?
[20:02] <reisio> aakskalalaala: which laptop?
[20:02] <New0> MonkeyDust, i want to install ubuntu via ubs (4gb)
[20:02] <New0> MonkeyDust, faster than a CD
[20:02] <aakskalalaala> reisio Lenovo IdeaPad G770A
[20:02] <linuxGuy> just had to install this a Panara Bread.....
[20:02] <linuxGuy> at
[20:03] <MonkeyDust> New0  fair enough, but are you now in ubuntu?
[20:03] <hash> so anyone know how i can figure out what files i can delete from my /var/log folder
[20:04] <escott> hash, whatever you feel like really. but logrotate should be removing them anyways
[20:04] <New0> in Win 7 (laptop) but the Q is about a PC running now an ubuntu (Try Ubuntu mode)
[20:04] <hash> interesting because i have 200 gigs worth of files in there
[20:05] <tpw_rules> so i'm trying to set up an openvpn server and it's whining that it can't find openssl.cnf
[20:05] <linuxGuy> 200GB.....wow
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> New0  use a usb creator for windows
[20:05] <reisio> aakskalalaala: seems to me exclusively offered in the east, so there isn't a whole lot of online chatter about it
[20:05] <escott> hash, logrotate rotates based on age, so if you have something like a bug that is causing frequent messages to be sent to the logs then your logs can blow up in size
[20:06] <hash> ah
[20:06] <linuxGuy> that cant be just logs
[20:06] <Rickardo_> I got "server.csr: No such file or directory" when  openssl x509 -req -days 365 -in server.csr -signkey server.key -out server.crt
[20:06] <aakskalalaala> reisio maybe Lenovo IdeaPad G770
[20:06] <hash> theres also a lot of .gz files in there
[20:06] <ex0a> hash you can delete any of them, but some of them need to be touch'd, chown'd, and chmod'd properly or applications who can't handle it might freak out
[20:06] <ex0a> hash: all the .gz are just compressed backups
[20:06] <ex0a> old logs
[20:06] <linuxGuy> ex0a = 100% correct
[20:07] <aakskalalaala> reisio the A or other letters show region probably
[20:07] <aakskalalaala> but nvm
[20:07] <ex0a> hash: ls -l and see which of them are taking up the most space
[20:07] <New0> MonkeyDust, tried that. and also i formated with FAT32. and use usb-creator and unetbootin. but didn't work. (when is was init all the text was in red, and at the end there was a line: End Trace)
[20:07] <reisio> aakskalalaala: if it doesn't have switchable graphics, my guess is it's supported, but amd.com would be the best place to find out
[20:09] <schnuffle> hash: the rotate option tells how many logs are kept
[20:09] <coder2> how to improve my system performance? i have dell studio 1558 laptop with dual installation with windows7, it eats very much power too.
[20:09] <escott> !info powertop | coder2
[20:10] <schnuffle> coder2:  move to a more light weigt GUI system like LXDE,XFCE .....
[20:10] <MonkeyDust> coder2  no visual effects -- add vm.swappiness=10 in /etc/sysctl.conf -- install preload
[20:11] <coder2> schnuffle, but will that give enough functionality?like i have now
[20:11] <hash> ex0a, http://pastebin.com/hrFc6gGX
[20:12] <schnuffle> coder2:  All of them are full Desktop environements, of course it depends on what you need from what you have right now
[20:12] <schnuffle> coder2: your kernel log is exploding check if there're errors
[20:12] <hash> theres a couple files with insane sizes
[20:13] <aakskalalaala> reisio it has switchable graphics with a inter 3000. i've just checked. so all switchable graphics aren't compatible ?
[20:13] <damms005> Check this find command: I don't know why the -size option not working. Notice the file the cursor is on:  http://imagebin.org/215777
[20:13] <hash> 2 sys logs and a kern log
[20:13] <damms005> MonkeyDust:  Check this find command: I don't know why the -size option not working. Notice the file the cursor is on:  http://imagebin.org/215777
[20:13] <schnuffle> damms005:  -size 4k without - i think
[20:14] <coder2> schnuffle, how to check?
[20:14] <escott> damms005, i think you are confused because you are including directory entries. "." itself will be <4k so ls -lh "." is called
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> hash  type this to see them all    find / -size +1G -exec file \;
[20:14] <MonkeyDust> damms005  no quotes around the {}
[20:15] <damms005> schnuffle: what do you mean without -. is size not an arguement to find?
[20:15] <escott> hash, pick any random line of kern.log and it will tell you what your problem is
[20:15] <schnuffle> hash: to see what is just happening sudo tailf -f /var/log/kern.log
[20:15] <guntbert> hash: you can run logrotate -f    immediately, but of course you should look into the logs what made them so big in such a short time
[20:15] <schnuffle> oops tail -f /var/log/kern.log
[20:15] <damms005> MonkeyDust: if I dont put it, I get error "no argument for -exec"
[20:17] <MonkeyDust> damms005  try ls -l so without the h
[20:18] <escott> MonkeyDust, thats not going to change anything damms005 needs find . -type f -and -size -4k -exec ...
[20:19] <odradek> how to change  text color in firefox in xubuntu I wonder ?
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> damms005  escott this works for me     find / -size +1G -exec file {} \; 2>/dev/null
[20:20] <escott> MonkeyDust, but damms005 is using ls and so he is calling (without realizing it) 'ls -ld "." ' which then dumps out the full directory contents
[20:20] <schnuffle> MonkeyDust: but you have the folders that way as well so you need -type f
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> confusion!
[20:21] <schnuffle> :)
[20:21] <escott> MonkeyDust, when you use file it says ".: directory" which is less confusing and spammy than ls -lh .'
[20:21] <MadRabbit320> hi all, if I dl ubuntu via bittorrent, are both the cd AND dvd iso's LIVE or is the dvd "INSTALL ONLY"?  thanks!
[20:22] <MonkeyDust> MadRabbit320  desktop is live, server is installer
[20:22] <MadRabbit320> so the dvd is "INSTALL ONLY"?
[20:23] <schnuffle> MadRabbit320:  CD/DVD DEsktop ist live, Server CD/DVD is install
[20:23] <MadRabbit320> not interested in the server distro...
[20:24] <schnuffle> MadRabbit320: So both are live tells us MonkeyDust
[20:24] <MadRabbit320> Alrighty then, time to dl!!! THANKS for a prompt answer!
[20:26] <MadRabbit320> enjoy the rest of your time here! I'm going back to my home planet in the morning...
[20:27] <coder2> i have AMD 1gb Graphics card, can i simulate better picture quality?
[20:27] <schnuffle> coder2: what does that mean?
[20:27] <jarray52> coder2: Do you want higher monitor resolution?
[20:27] <xGrub11> tset
[20:27] <xGrub11> test
[20:28] <slayer_> icles
[20:28] <guntbert> xGrub11: please use #test
[20:28] <coder2> jarray52, yes
[20:28] <SwashBuckla> GRUB2 question: I have set the TIMEOUT=0 and the DEFAULT=0 (Windows). Can I still boot Ubuntu?
[20:28] <jarray52> coder2: Laptop?
[20:28] <coder2> schnuffle, higher monitor resolution
[20:29] <xGrub11> somebody tell where is addreess to download "dpkg" for xubuntu 11.10
[20:29] <coder2> jarray52, yes
[20:29] <xGrub11> thanks before
[20:29] <jarray52> coder2: dmesg | grep vga
[20:29] <schnuffle> xGrub11: it called xubuntu-desktop and is in the repository
[20:30] <linuxGuy> anyone know the command to check hard drive partion sizes and mounts i forget
[20:30] <coder2> jarray52, ??
[20:30] <jarray52> coder2: pastebin the output of that command.
[20:30] <SwashBuckla> linuxGuy: mount to check mounts
[20:30] <jarray52> coder2: Use dpaste.com
[20:30] <SwashBuckla> linuxGuy: df to check sizes
[20:30] <kyle__> Two things changed at once: 11.10->12.04 and unity2d->unity, and now my system is unstable.  Has anyone else experienced this?  It's a core-i5 lenovo with a run-of-the-mill intel chipset integrated everything.
[20:30] <linuxGuy> thought it wasBf -H
[20:30] <schnuffle> linuxGuy: it's df -h
[20:30] <kyle__> Unstalbe with 12.04+Unity on i5 laptop, anyone else?
[20:31] <linuxGuy> ahhh df not bf got it....ty
[20:31] <SwashBuckla> man df; man mount
[20:31] <jarray52> linuxGuy: df -h
[20:31] <kyle__> df -BM
[20:31] <client_> hi, i have a 3g modem connected to a windows machine through usb modem
[20:31] <kyle__> m G g T t also work.
[20:31] <xGrub11> yes!
[20:31] <client_> i would like to share internet to an ubuntu machine from the windows ethernet cable
[20:31] <client_> can someone suggest me
[20:31] <railsraider> what is AIF:UNPRIV connect attempt: IN=eth0 is that always mean attack?
[20:32] <SwashBuckla> railsraider: google
[20:32] <coder2> jarray52, http://dpaste.com/hold/757013/
[20:32] <kyle__> client_: More of a windows question, but IIRC it's builtin functionality for windows since XP SP1.  Google for internet sharing windows.
[20:32] <client_> ok
[20:32] <jarray52> coder2: Do you have two graphics cards on your laptop?
[20:33] <client_> il give a try
[20:33] <client_> thank you
[20:33] <guntbert> !google | SwashBuckla
[20:33] <jarray52> coder2: run lsmod | grep fglrx
[20:34] <jarray52> coder2: Actually, just dpaste lsmod
[20:34] <schnuffle> client_:  you'll need to configure the linux NIC manually as long as you don't have a DHCP server on your windows machine
[20:34] <guntbert> SwashBuckla: to get the grub menu press (left) shift-key after booting until you get the menu
[20:34] <SwashBuckla> guntbert: this is not enabled in my GRUB2 config
[20:35] <coder2> jarray52, http://dpaste.com/hold/757014/
[20:35] <guntbert> SwashBuckla: with <shift> pressed you will get it
[20:35] <SwashBuckla> hmm
[20:36] <SwashBuckla> I have tried this
[20:36] <guntbert> !enter | SwashBuckla
[20:36] <SwashBuckla> guntbert: I thought you needed to explicitly enable Shift in the config to display GRUB2 menu
[20:36] <mikkelb> At my homedir backup script at https://gist.github.com/2897952 - how do I skip the creation of the tarball if none of the folder's content has changed? And then move all old tarballs (which the script will then have made newer versions of) to folder "_purged" (create if doesn't exist).
[20:37] <mikkelb> I can pay for help
[20:37] <guntbert> SwashBuckla: no, that is not necessary
[20:37] <jarray52> coder2: dmesg | grep tainted
[20:38] <guntbert> mikkelb: this here is volunteer support
[20:38] <mikkelb> guntbert: yeah im just saying
[20:38] <WG_> Hello
[20:38] <jarray52> coder2: What resolution do you currently have?
[20:38] <mikkelb> for the trouble
[20:38] <schnuffle> mikkelb: changed in related to which state
[20:38] <jemark> mikkelb: we are volunteers
[20:38] <mikkelb> schnuffle: sorry?
[20:39] <schnuffle> mikkelb: you need to check against something to realize that there's change or not
[20:39] <coder2> jarray52, 1366x768
[20:40] <jarray52> coder2: Does the resolution go higher in windows?
[20:40] <nut> hi yall
[20:40] <mikkelb> schnuffle: yeah i get that much
[20:40] <coder2> yes it looks more soften
[20:41] <jarray52> coder2: Do you have exact numbers?
[20:41] <nut> why is it such a pain to get desktop icons to the desktop??
[20:41] <coder2> nope
[20:41] <coder2> jarray52, sorry
[20:42] <jarray52> coder2: Have you tried opening AMD catalyst and adjusting screen resolution?
[20:42] <schnuffle> mikkelb: so  you want to know if the folders you want to backup have changed taking the last archive as reference?
[20:42] <tompson> sudo chkconfig --add noip2
[20:42] <tompson> [sudokode]: unable to resolve host fw-distrito
[20:42] <tompson> The script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an Upstart
[20:42] <tompson> job, but lsb-header is not supported for Upstart jobs.
[20:42] <mikkelb> schnuffle: yes sir
[20:42] <jarray52> coder2: You can also try System->Preferences->Monitor
[20:43] <coder2> jarray52, trying
[20:43] <nut> or point me in the righ direction
[20:43] <tompson> I can not run the noip
[20:43] <tompson> Can someone help me
[20:43] <glosoli> how to make these Java Swing written ups to stay in Ubuntu Launcher ???
[20:44] <jarray52> coder2: work?
[20:44] <schnuffle> mikkelb: do you have the opportunity to switch to something else which does all that for you? I mean why not using a tool that has the option to make incremental backups?
[20:44] <tompson> Can someone help me
[20:44] <tompson> I can not run the noip
[20:44] <jemark> tompson:
[20:45] <jemark> tompson: yes
[20:45] <coder2> jarray52, trying different combinations too, so have to wait for a min or two :)
[20:45] <schnuffle> tompson: is fw-distrito your PC?
[20:45] <tompson> [schnuffle]: yes
[20:45] <jarray52> coder2: What's the highest resolution available?
[20:46] <schnuffle> tompson: are you using DHCP, if not then add an entry to /etc/hosts: <your ip>       fw-distrito
[20:46] <mikkelb> schnuffle: if you want something right, you gotta do it yourself hehe
[20:46] <mikkelb> i have special needs
[20:46] <coder2> jarray52, its already on highest
[20:46] <mikkelb> i am a special man with special powers
[20:46] <cowlicks> Where can I see a list of all the ubuntu specific aliases?
[20:46] <tompson> ok
[20:47] <linuxGuy> got everything working on my Asus 31e ultrabook , odd thing is wifi always shows weak sig. Im sure its just a reporting issue some were because the sig itsself is strong
[20:47]  * man disagrees with mikkelb
[20:47] <tompson> schnuffle
[20:48] <tompson> <IP_ADDRESS> fw-distrito
[20:48] <tompson> so
[20:48] <tompson> schnuffle
[20:48] <schnuffle> tompson: so ping fw-distrito is working
[20:49] <SwashBuckla> guntbert: OK, I have just tried holding Shift all through the boot process, and a change DOES occur: I get the message "GRUB loading...". However, this disappears after 5 or so seconds and continues with it's configured boot process (i.e. it does not show the GRUB menu)
[20:50] <nut> i have that problem when i boot xubuntu
[20:50] <v1adimir> guys on xubuntu 12.04 my i5-2400 is this http://sprunge.us/RhWa and it's reporting to be running @ 1600 MHz http://www.datafilehost.com/download-23228ba8.html - can someone help me pls?
[20:50] <schnuffle> tompson:  because unable to resolve host fw-distrito tells me that there's a DNS resolution problem
[20:50] <schnuffle> mikkelb: I don't have a good idea for your problem, because everything I could suggest doesn't fell good at all
[20:50] <schnuffle> feeel
[20:50] <v1adimir> fresh install, haven't touched anything, UEFI not configured for power saving, or oc
[20:51] <SwashBuckla> feeeel
[20:51] <mikkelb> schnuffle: hehe no worries brother