[11:09] <deus__> so gsynaptic doesnt work anymore
[11:10] <Codemaster|Mobil> jdk1976: wow
[11:10] <yerchin> Actually I just checked and it is mounted.
[11:10] <kmg_> troubled: ------------------- /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[11:10] <erbi> d
[11:10] <deus__> how do i edit the settings for my laptop touchpad?
[11:10] <yerchin> No permissions.
[11:10] <troubled> kmg_: https://stage.maemo.org/svn/maemo/projects/haf/trunk/dpkg/lib/dbmodify.c  suggests that error is from an EACCESS error, but you are root and the perms look fine. unless they have some sort of lock file :/
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> if more people seeded itd be faster
[11:10] <deus__> im on intrepid offcurse
[11:10] <yerchin> No errors either, I just can't open it.
[11:10] <jdk1976> it's a torrent i fpound on the ubuntu site itself  http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/intrepid/alternate/
[11:10] <fde> yerchin: if there are no errors, how do you know its a permissions issue?
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> yerchin: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=59658
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> jdk1976: make sure you download the md5sum and check it
[11:11] <yerchin> I don't know what else it could be if WINE doesn't execute it but has done so with every other CD
[11:11] <jdk1976> k
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | jdk
[11:11] <fde> jdk1976: not many people use the alternate install cd... so it won't have many seeders at all... best to just grab it from a regular ftp site probably...
[11:11] <kmg_> HMM
[11:11] <jdk1976> 53 seeds for this torrent
[11:11] <troubled> kmg_: what about "aptitude install"?
[11:11] <mejdi8580> bonjour tout le monde
[11:12] <troubled> kmg_: you are root right now right?
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> !hi | majd
[11:12] <jdk1976> i'm installing ubuntu on my wife's macbook air today
[11:12] <jdk1976> muahahaha
[11:12] <_cerberus_> Hey all, I'm attempting to connect to my computer running hardy-heron using a dumb terminal over a serial port.  When I enter my username however I'm greeted with the message 'No utmp entry. You must exec "login" from the lowest level "sh"' Any ideas what the problem could be?
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> yerchin: can you give use the output of mount please
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> !paste | yerchin
[11:12] <zhai> guys.. where can i download the latest version of ubuntu?
[11:12] <fde> kmg_: are you running synaptic or the add/remove tool or anything else when you're trying this command? only one apt frontend can run at a time...
[11:12] <jdk1976> I'm going to show her what a real os can do
[11:12] <vega> hm, i have 2 users on intrepid, one that's logged in X, when i try to "switch user" to the other one it says it cannot start X, why? i mean if X is already running fine, what config is the other one trying to use??
[11:12] <yerchin> what do I type in command line to get that?
[11:12] <ne2k__> jdk1976: you mean Windows Vista?
[11:13] <troubled> kmg_: curious, what happens when you run: touch /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[11:13] <jdk1976> HAHAHA
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> _cerberus_: http://aplawrence.com/SCOFAQ/FAQ_scotec2no_utmp.html
[11:13] <r3dxp> hello, I disabled gdm so my box starts up in console. When I login through console and before i type startx to start x server, i wish to have my wireless connection and all my network connections to run on startup. Current setting is configured so that all my network connections (network-manager) are loaded after startx is executed.
[11:13] <Codemaster|Mobil> jdk1976: just don't erae any of her data ;)
[11:13] <jdk1976> i can't tell you how many windows vista machines i've turned into gutsy machinies
[11:13] <fde> zhai: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.10/release/  should probably grab the torrent if you have a client for it.
[11:13] <Luke771> jdk1976: geeks DO use the alternate install (it's way quicker than the Live CD + GUI install thingy), and even tho Ubuntu isn't a real-geek distro, the alternate install is very popular among experienced users, so if you don't get seeders, something must be wrong with your bittorrent setp.... or more simply, you just need to let it run until it catches some seeders
[11:13] <r3dxp> how do i change it so that my wireless connection works as soon as the computer boots normally ?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> r3dxp: then you need to configure wifi in /etc/network/interfaces
[11:13] <troubled> erbi: sorry, not sure what your problem is, so stop reapeating it to me in every channel :p
[11:14] <erbi> sorry
[11:14] <Codemaster|Mobil> jdk1976: possibly a router issue, as well, concerning the torrent
[11:14] <kmg_> troubled: it gives me the same "you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a'" message twice, once at the beginning and once at the end of aptitude install, in the middle it goes from "Reading package lists... Done" to "Initializing package states... Done"
[11:14] <_cerberus_> ActionParsnip: cheers, I'll have a look
[11:14] <jdk1976> Luke771: 8 min left on this dl
[11:14] <troubled> kmg_: just wondering if aptitude maybe correct itself better
[11:14] <fde> kmg_: did you try that command? apt is great about telling you what is wrong....
[11:14] <jdk1976> 770KB/s
[11:14] <jdk1976> MONSTER speed
[11:15] <Luke771> good
[11:15] <r3dxp> how can i view current internet settings so that i can write them to /etc/network/interfaces ?
[11:15] <Luke771> good
[11:15] <troubled> fde: he has this problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179575
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> r3dxp: this will circumvent your network manager settings
[11:15] <zhai> client?
[11:15]  * fde got about 2mb/s when downloading Ubuntu
[11:15] <kmg_> troubled: cannot touch `/var/lib/dpkg/lock': Read-only file system
[11:15] <kmg_> fde: I'm running in single-user mode
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> r3dxp: gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[11:15] <jdk1976> fde, so that took all of what, 7 minutes?
[11:15] <troubled> kmg_: oh really hmmm
[11:15] <fde> troubled: yuck
[11:15] <troubled> kmg_: run "whoami"
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> r3dxp: ive not used a network manager before, I always edit that file, just fill it in yourself, there are guides everywhere
[11:16] <_cerberus_> ActionParsnip: I'm fairly certain it's not a problem with the utmp as I can log on to the machine locally
[11:16] <nickh> Have a wonderful night --err morning, all. So Long for now.
[11:16] <kmg_> troubled: root
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> !terminal
[11:16] <Luke771> oh, I have an nvidia problem too, like erbi
[11:16] <ikonia> kmg_ why ar eyou root
[11:16] <fde> jdk1976: if that, I started it, made coffee, and got to installing  :P
[11:16] <ikonia> kmg_: the root account is locked in ubuntu
[11:16] <troubled> ikonia: recovery
[11:16] <zhai> yo fde.. so ill do some reformat again?
[11:16] <jdk1976> hehe
[11:16] <ikonia> ahhh
[11:16] <fde> zhai: depends how you partitioned, but probably, yes
[11:16] <fus10nx> What would be the best way to keep track of which files mplayer has played and keep them in a file or database or something? I'm just trying to keep track of EVERY time it plays 1.mpg, 2.mpg, 3.mpg, etc. becuase I have a ton of files in a constant loop and I'd like to keep track of them in a solid way. ANy suggestions?
[11:16] <troubled> stuff giving him ro fs errors as root, only for like /var though
[11:17] <troubled> kmg_: what about "touch /var/test"
[11:17] <samson_> slt netcrash
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> !paste > yerchin
[11:17] <ikonia> troubled: do you have the output of df ?
[11:17] <jdk1976> apparently instaling ubuntu on macbook air  is pretty easy. i'm looking forward to finding out, and seeing how the compiz effects work on it
[11:17] <troubled> ikonia: ya, hes got like 1.6g free
[11:17] <ikonia> troubled: still got the url ?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> jdk1976: you'll need ndiswrapper for wifi
[11:17] <Luke771> anyone got nvidia gf9800GT to work under 8.10? how? the driver 177 won't work and nvidia-driver-new that worked perfectly under 8.04 isn't available any more
[11:17] <kmg_> troubled: cannout touch /var/test: read-only file syste
[11:17] <kmg_> m
[11:17] <jdk1976> ActionParsnip:  thanks
[11:17] <r3dxp> ah thanks ActionParsnip
[11:17] <erUSUL> fus10nx: make a wrapper script that calls mplayer *and* logs the file is about to play
[11:17] <troubled> ikonia: he typed it here since he cant pastebin
[11:18] <troubled> ikonia: his whole /var appears to be locked from root somehow
[11:18] <zhai> fde: u mean bitTorrent??
[11:18] <jdk1976> someone can't pastebin?
[11:18] <ikonia> kmg_: what disk is /var mounted on
[11:18] <ikonia> kmg_: as in what device letter
[11:18] <ikonia> kmg_: sorry device file
[11:18] <troubled> its not, its all one fs as /dev/sda1
[11:18] <zhai> it wil reformat everything?
[11:18] <fde> zhai: bittorrent is a torrent client....
[11:18] <r3dxp> what if my wlan0 is my wireless card, and it needs to connect to my router, how would i input the SSID and WPA pw and such?
[11:18] <yerchin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/73808/
[11:18] <ikonia> kmg_: you can do touch /root/test
[11:18] <fde> zhai: I meant the .torrent file
[11:18] <kmg_> ikonia: /var is not a seperate mount from / which is /dev/sda1
[11:19] <troubled> so far it sounds like only /var
[11:19] <ikonia> kmg_: run touch /root/test
[11:19] <troubled> he ran an fsck earlier on it as well with no errors :/
[11:19] <gaintsura> is there a way to filter all files of internal_uibox_*.jpg via nautilus or pcmanfm?
[11:19] <kmg_> ikonia: no, read-only file system
[11:19] <erUSUL> r3dxp: System>Preferences>Network configuration... but you should not need to. does an icon with two computers appear on the top right corner of your desktop?
[11:19] <troubled> and his mount shows rw
[11:19] <r3dxp> yes
[11:19] <ikonia> kmg_ can you please do mount /dev/sda1 -o rw /mnt please
[11:20] <troubled> < kmg_> troubled: /dev/sda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[11:20] <yerchin> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/73808/
[11:20] <r3dxp> but i wish to automatically connect to my router on startup BEFORE i execute the command startx to load x server
[11:20] <erUSUL> r3dxp: click on it. Do you see your ap in the menu ?
[11:20] <kmg_> cannot touch /root/test: read-only file system
[11:20] <ikonia> troubled on error remount-ro
[11:20] <jdk1976> ...and god created torrents
[11:20] <troubled> ikonia: i see that, but mount should be reporting accurately, and it says rw
[11:20] <erUSUL> r3dxp: it should appear with a bar showing the signal strengh
[11:20] <troubled> oh nm, thats not a full paste
[11:20] <ikonia> kmg_: please do "mount -o rw /dev/sda1 /mnt"
[11:20] <r3dxp> yes
[11:21] <erUSUL> r3dxp: click on it
[11:21] <r3dxp> and ?
[11:21] <troubled> kmg_: might i suggest: mount -o remount,rw /
[11:21] <erUSUL> it should try to connect to that ap/network
[11:21] <samson_> hello
[11:21] <fde> zhai: you get what I said? got disconnected briefly...
[11:21] <ikonia> troubled stick it on a /mnt mount point first to ovoid any overlap courrption (if there was any damage)
[11:22] <ikonia> avoid even
[11:22] <r3dxp> erUSUL: you are misunderstanding my question, what i am asking is, i want my wireless connection to work on normal boot, BEFORE i run startx to load x server
[11:22] <ikonia> r3dxp put the settings in your inetrfaces file then
[11:22] <troubled> ikonia: his on it now though, so you would want a bind mount in that case
[11:22] <zhai> fde: yeah.. im about to download it now.. but im having a hard time downloadingit
[11:23] <troubled> kmg_: anyways, after you mount/remount it, try touch again
[11:23] <ikonia> torgrim_: as it's read only you shouldn't have to bind mount (fingers crossed)
[11:23] <ikonia> troubled: sorry for you
[11:23] <r3dxp> where can i find settings?
[11:23] <ikonia> r3dxp: in your interfaces file
[11:23] <troubled> ikonia: ya np. odd that its reporting no errors on fsck and its reporting mounted as rw atm
[11:23] <fde> zhai: what is the issue?
[11:23] <troubled> ikonia: somethin isn't right either way
[11:23] <samson_><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:23] <r3dxp> yeah, but where do i include the SSID / pw to the wireless network ?
[11:23] <ikonia> troubled: depends what the error is, may not be a file system corruption error, could be no inodes
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> r3dxp: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[11:24] <ikonia> troubled: df -i is your friend ;)
[11:24] <r3dxp> thanks
[11:24] <r3dxp> ill look
[11:24] <troubled> ikonia: aye, but that would still report 0% to him iirc
[11:24] <ikonia> yes, I suppose that would come up as a space issue
[11:24] <ikonia> unless - it can't write to /var due to space at boot time so mounts it read-only
[11:24] <troubled> kmg_: probably best to give us the exact output of "df -hi /"
[11:25] <troubled> ive never seen a full disk remount ro though for space
[11:25] <ikonia> troubled I've see it for specific logging issues
[11:25] <ikonia> never on ubuntu though
[11:25] <troubled> anyways, time to narrow it down some more
[11:25] <fde> r3dxp: System > Preferences > Network Configuration ... edit the wireless connection and add it to there
[11:26] <troubled> he did mention he had _alot_ of pr0n though heh
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> fde: he's in single user mode so that wont come into play
[11:26] <fde> People underestimate the benefits of smart partitioning.... really hate that Ubuntu by default dumps everything into /
[11:27] <kmg_> ikonia: actually, everything I touch says read-only file system
[11:27] <kmg_> ikonia: but if I do like `touch /root' it says touch: setting times of `root': read-only file system
[11:27] <kmg_> I can't write to anything
[11:27] <kmg_> oops
[11:27] <kmg_> ls
[11:27] <FloodBot2> kmg_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:27] <kmg_> i can't mkdir /test
[11:27] <Frogzoo> fde: separate /home should be default
[11:27] <fde> Frogzoo: yes, but it isn't  :(
[11:27] <troubled> kmg_: can you type out the output of "df -hi /" for us plz?
[11:28] <kmg_> sorry im having connectivity problems
[11:28] <fde> ActionParsnip: wait, r3dxp and kmg_ are in single user mode?
[11:28] <YOSI> Hi
[11:28] <troubled> ikonia: also, the error for dpkg source says that error msg is an EACCESS
[11:28] <YOSI> Anybody here is using jdownloader???
[11:28] <ikonia> troubled can't write to /var - so no surprise
[11:28] <zhai> i think i cnt download it.. im having some connection problems
[11:28] <troubled> ya true
[11:29] <YOSI>  Anybody here is using jdownloader???
[11:29] <fde> zhai: ugh, then just grab the regular iso file for i386 ... you might be using a version of Ubuntu that didn't have a torrent client
[11:29] <troubled> im debating of a "mount -o remount,ro /" and running another fsck though
[11:29] <fde> !repeat @ YOSI
[11:29] <troubled> well, pending the output of df
[11:29] <fde> !repeat > YOSI
[11:29] <kmg_> troubled: I did mount -o remount,rw / and now it's not read-only, I ran dpkg --configure -a and it seems to be working
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> fde: dont worry i gave him a guide to edit the interfaces file
[11:30] <troubled> kmg_: hmm, well thats good. but odd that mount reported it as rw before
[11:30] <YOSI>  Anybody here is using jdownloader??
[11:30] <fde> YOSI: stop repeating... no one is using it  :/
[11:30] <erUSUL> troubled: heard once that output of "mount" command can not be trusted it is better to check "cat /proc/mounts"
[11:31] <K_Dallas> Good morning folks! Recently my mplayer (ubuntu hardy) didn't produce any audio output and I reinstalled the packaged in the hope to solve the problem (it used to work just fine) with no avail. Then I used -ao esd and voila! It was all right. Isn't it supposed to use alsa?
[11:31] <troubled> erUSUL: ya, just thought about that
[11:31] <sKeiths> does 'apt-get install ee' work for anyone? version 8.10 - i'm getting 'E: Couldn't find package ee'
[11:31] <erUSUL> K_Dallas: no esd is allright. pulseaudio is compatible with esd
[11:31] <fde> K_Dallas: its supposed to use pulseaudio ... which has esd support
[11:31] <erUSUL> !pulseaudio | K_Dallas
[11:32] <troubled> erUSUL: still, the odd thing is that he ran an fsck without error, so it shouldnt have came up. and clearly it wasnt a space problem since he is using it now fine
[11:32] <fde> K_Dallas: you can make that permanent in /etc/mplayer/config (I think that's where?)
[11:32] <kmg_> troubled: its running dpkg on tons of stuff, i'm gonna switch over to x-chat because empathy is totally sucking right now and once its done ill write up my df -hi
[11:32] <K_Dallas> thanks erUSUL but it used to be working fine without me fixing the -ao, now i have to set the audioout put otherwise it owuldnt work
[11:32] <K_Dallas> fde, true
[11:32] <kmg_> brb
[11:32] <erUSUL> troubled: i did not follow the issue closely...
[11:33] <troubled> kmg_: well, if its running, its not likely inode issue
[11:33] <fde> K_Dallas: probably nothing else was occupying the devices before when you ran mplayer...
[11:33] <K_Dallas> fde, I see
[11:33] <erUSUL> K_Dallas: maybe somehow the ~/.mplayer/config changed?
[11:33] <troubled> kinda hard to get the poor guy to go through the logs to try find the error though. especially since he cant pastebin
[11:34] <erUSUL> K_Dallas: in mine i have ao=pulse
[11:34] <YOSI> please anyone willing to help?
[11:34] <K_Dallas> erUSUL, i see. i am going to look into the config right now
[11:35] <fde> YOSI: maybe if you ask a question more developed than "anyone using jdownloader"...
[11:35] <troubled> erUSUL: iirc, mount displays from /etc/mtab, but that would still mean that the system was ro from the start, but shouldnt have happened on a clean fs unless something happened on startup
[11:35] <r3dxp> how do i setup my wireless connection & router login info to my /etc/network/interfaces ?
[11:35] <troubled> oh well, least its working. just very odd behaviour given his symptoms
[11:36] <K_Dallas> erUSUL, in the config file in my home directory, there was nothing, in the global setting here is what it says:
[11:36] <K_Dallas> ao=pulse,alsa,
[11:36] <K_Dallas> should i change it to: ao = sdl:esd
[11:36] <kmg_> troubled: i think it was the ubuntu recovery mode thing
[11:36] <fde> r3dxp: look in man interfaces ... then type /Examples  ... I believe there is one that is exactly what you need
[11:37] <YOSI> well i installed the jdownloader...it uses java so in installed a .jar file... but i dont know how to run the program since there is not any link in the meno or the desktop
[11:37] <kmg_> troubled: i'm pretty sure i was able to write to the drive before I ran that and went into single-user mode
[11:37] <troubled> kmg_: possibly. never used it before though
[11:37] <YOSI> i dont know ho to make a link to this program
[11:37] <fde> YOSI: jar whatever.jar
[11:37] <kmg_> troubled: and I got to it by doing init 1
[11:37] <YOSI> what?
[11:37] <fde> YOSI: that is how you run the .jar
[11:37] <regebro> Hmm. I don't know much about sound, but should there really be an ALC889 codec with my Intel ICH8 card? (MacBook).
[11:37] <troubled> kmg_: did it finish yet?
[11:37] <erUSUL> K_Dallas: no; pulse,alsa seems like a good setting for me
[11:38] <erUSUL> K_Dallas: not sure why it fails
[11:38] <YOSI> i run the jar already and installed
[11:38] <kmg_> troubled: it's still going.  it's probably gotta do like half the 8.04 -> 8.10 upgrade packages =P
[11:38] <YOSI> but i want to run the program....should i run the jar again??
[11:38] <K_Dallas> erUSUL, darn! now I have to use -ao esd each time I use mplayer
[11:38] <troubled> kmg_: ooh, well hope you got the space hehe
[11:38] <fde> YOSI: ok... java executables are all in .jar format... so you have to do the same for the program itself
[11:39] <kmg_> troubled: and of course I'm in single user mode so I can't access the other ttys
[11:39] <YOSI> ok, but where is the program installed?
[11:39] <kmg_> troubled: yeah, im pretty sure I do
[11:39] <troubled> kmg_: well, you could have started another tty, but thats okay :)
[11:39] <fde> YOSI: no idea... sudo updatedb && locate jdownloader
[11:39] <sKeiths> If there is no ee package. how best for me to install ee?
[11:40] <YOSI> thanks will try that
[11:40] <r3dxp> fde : what do i do with /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/net-interfaces.gz ?
[11:40]  * Mustinet`aFk is away: Gone away for now
[11:40] <gynterk> hello, latest ubuntu, how to get PHP working with PDF support?
[11:40] <troubled> fde: updatedb as root isnt a great idea btw. it will index dir's that normally would be hidden or stripped
[11:40] <gynterk> any packages for that purpose?
[11:40] <bazhang> !away > Mustinet`aFk
[11:41] <lianimator1> !away > lianimator1
[11:41] <kmg_> troubled: thanks for the help by the way, hopefully all this mess will be miraculously fixed once i finish the dist-upgrade
[11:41] <kmg_> troubled: i'm pretty sure that my x configuration is just all messed up from the half-install
[11:42] <kmg_> ikonia: thank you as well
[11:42] <troubled> fde: should be: sudo /etc/cron.daily/find   or source /etc/updatedb.conf first
[11:42] <ikonia> kmg_: you guys got there on your own
[11:42] <C0p3rn1c> how does sat tv work on the pc/linux ?
[11:43] <fde> r3dxp: ahhh... they moves it... open that via zcat (although here it says its not there  :/ )
[11:43] <shirish> hi all, dumb question on ubuntu we use bash or sh as shell? also how to find out what shell am I using?
[11:43] <troubled> kmg_: well, i would take a look through your dmesg and syslog's for a possible messages as to what causes the mount ro on error in the first place
[11:43] <fde> troubled: you can't updatedb as a normal user unless they changed that recently....
[11:43] <C0p3rn1c> I recently installed a dreambox(decoder device that runs linux), it can decode sat tv without a card??
[11:43] <fde> troubled: cron runs it daily already though
[11:43] <troubled> fde: ya, use sudo still, just dont run updatedb directly unless you sourced the conf for the env vars first
[11:44] <troubled> fde: if you run updatedb (on debian at least) as root, it will index all the stuff normal users cant see for security reasons
[11:44] <ChrisBeswick> hi, i was in here yesterday looking for help setting up a remote control with my computer. sadly no one knew what i was talking about, but i did manage to finally work it out. from the forums it seems a few people have had this problem, with no real answers, so is there a place i can put a "howto" to help people in the same situation as i found myself?
[11:44] <troubled> ie: everything
[11:44] <erUSUL> shirish: dash is default sh in ubuntu
[11:44] <kmg_> troubled: i'll do that
[11:44] <shirish> erUSUL: how did you found out?
[11:44] <troubled> kmg_: this isn't the first time thats happened?
[11:44] <jim_p> hello
[11:45] <u7pL> end_request: I/O error, dev sr0 sector 1431176 * what is this ?
[11:45] <pw-toxic> ölaksdjföalskdjföalskdjf
[11:45] <fde> troubled: not entirely sure why that's a bad thing... still can't access the files...
[11:45] <pw-toxic> sry ;)
[11:45] <erUSUL> shirish: i knew it but do "ls -l $(which sh)"
[11:45] <shirish> erUSUL: also are shell and terminal same or different things
[11:45] <kmg_> troubled: first time it's happened like this before.  I've had to fsck my disk before when my processor overheated
[11:45] <rconan> is it possible to do the jack retasking on Realtek audio under linux?
[11:46] <erUSUL> shirish: i spect knew users to get bash by default as login shell. i use zsh
[11:46] <troubled> fde: but they may not know the files exist in the first place. plus you also index potentionally millions of more files on removable media and stuff that wouldnt otherwise be pruned
[11:46] <kmg_> troubled: there were just a bunch of things foing on at once this time
[11:46] <zhai> fde.. i havent download them yet,,
[11:46] <shirish> erUSUL: on my system it shows dash as linked from /bin/sh
[11:46] <erUSUL> shirish: like in any other ubuntu out there. i told you :)
[11:47] <zhai> um btw guys.. is ubuntu possible to acquire some virus?
[11:47] <troubled> zhai: sure, likely? no
[11:47] <zhai> is there any antivirus applicable here?
[11:47] <ikonia> zhai: it is possible, but the definition of virus's is not what you'd expect on a windows platform
[11:47] <troubled> a virus is just a malicious program after all
[11:48] <ChrisBeswick> it could get one, but its not likely, the usage is low, and the technical expertise of the users is generally higher that windows, so mostly virus writers don't bother
[11:48] <ikonia> zamba: there is anyivirus applications, but to be honest for linux based fil systems they are mostly redundent due tot he different way "virus" or exploits workk
[11:48] <fde> zhai: you can use anti-virus software sure... mostly to protect your windows using friends though
[11:48] <troubled> zhai: chances are you would get a rootkit on *nix instead of a virus
[11:48] <fde> zhai: viruses are much less effective on Linux boxes... even less effective if you have something like selinux
[11:48] <kmg_> haha, yeah, gotta scan your own attachments before you forward emails
[11:49] <zhai> oh  know i know
[11:49] <Ximal> anyone here know how to install vmware ? i can't find it like i used to be able to as they took it from the repositories ... even the vmachine player..
[11:50] <zhai> im just confused bec im about to connect my fone on my pc but im afraid it could get out of it
[11:50] <fde> Ximal: it was removed because its non-free and virtualbox is reported to be faster by many... not to mention kvm
[11:50] <jim_p> Ximal: download it from vmware and install it
[11:51] <Ximal> whats kvm ? and itried but they don't have a deb file anymore since ubuntu doesn't carry it anymore ... kindof wierd
[11:51] <erUSUL> !kvm
[11:51] <shirish> erUSUL: is there any difference between shell and terminal or its the same thing given two names?
[11:51] <konglingyun> #ubuntu-cn
[11:52] <ChrisBeswick> is vmware still in the canonical commercial repostitory?
[11:53] <Sektor__> troubled, remember the issue with the shared libraries this morning
[11:53] <troubled> Sektor__: ya, how that go for ya?
[11:53] <zamba> ikonia: there is? cool :)
[11:53] <jim_p> ChrisBeswick: nope
[11:53] <ikonia> zamba sorry, that wasn't for you
[11:53] <erUSUL> shirish: well the shell is the interpreter of commands and scripts the terminal was the phisicall monitor+keyboard nowadays there exist only virtual terminals (VT) and terminal emulators (xterm; gnome-terminal etc)
[11:53] <zamba> ikonia: i know :)
[11:53] <ChrisBeswick> well that stops me giving that advice then :D
[11:54] <jim_p> lol
[11:54] <Sektor__> troubled, I asked a colleague who's pretty smart when it comes to linux issues, but he had to dig for an hour or so, and according to him, in linux the variables are shared, opposed to windows where each dll will have it's own copy of the global var
[11:54] <erUSUL> shirish: but many people use both terms and others to refer to the comand line interface of unix
[11:54] <Sektor__> troubled, you can modify this behaviour with the -fvisibility-ms-compat flag
[11:54] <sKeiths> is there anyway I can use the 7.10 apt-get package database for 8.10?
[11:54] <troubled> Sektor__: interesting that MS duplicates them and linux doesnt
[11:55] <Sektor__> troubled, but you than have to export your functions: #define EXPORT __attribute__((visibility("default")))
[11:55] <fde> sKeiths: no
[11:55] <monadwr> sKeiths: Why would you want to?
[11:55] <SlimeyPete> sKeiths: not really. You'll wind up with package dependency problems.
[11:55] <sKeiths> trying to get 'ee' which is in 7.10
[11:55] <fde> sKeiths: well, correction, you can, but you'd have to re-compile everything, the binaries wouldn't work
[11:55] <shirish> hi all, keyboard stuff if CR stands for Carriage Return what would  LF and NL stand for?
[11:55] <troubled> Sektor__: I suppose MS approach is to work around namespace issues or something perhaps?
[11:55] <Sektor__> troubled, I was surprised too, this is definitely a recipe for disaster when porting applications
[11:55] <monadwr> shirish: Line Feed, and NL is probably new line.
[11:56] <troubled> Sektor__: ya, ive seen some of the junk you gotta go through when dealing with multi OS apps heh
[11:56] <fde> sKeiths: you can add a 7.10 source repo... then apt-get -b source ee -t <whatever_7.10_codename_was>
[11:56] <juanitos> sadfasdf
[11:56] <Sektor__> troubled, I think it's just a different approach, in MS default visibility is hidden, whereas in linux default visibility is to export everything
[11:57] <troubled> Sektor__: probably could have found that out in the gcc manpage, but god knows thats a week long read :)
[11:57] <sKeiths> thanks fde. i'll try that now
[11:57] <troubled> Sektor__: i figure they hide stuff so they dev's dont have to worry about conflicts in naming or something
[11:57] <Sektor__> troubled, yeah, I went through a bunch of documentation, but the problem is very specific (not a lot of ppl had a ready answer) so I gave up, I'm too busy to delve deep into it
[11:58] <omegaomni> hello?
[11:58] <fde> !hello | omegaomni
[11:58] <Sektor__> troubled, in this case I don't think it's a lazy work around, I believe they just have a different idea about a 'shared library'
[11:58] <omegaomni> im in need of some assistance.
[11:58] <fde> omegaomni: great, tell us some details of the issue you're experiencing and we'll try to assist you.
[11:59] <Sektor__> troubled, in windows (as far as I know, I'm not an authority on this issue) there is not a lot of difference between applications and dll's, linkage wise anyways
[11:59] <omegaomni> thanks...my login screen service doesnt start...is there any way to start it during terminal?
[11:59] <transporter> hello
[11:59] <ablyss[mobile]> anybody use blue soleil
[12:00] <fde> omegaomni: type: /etc/init.d/gdm restart ... any difference? if it still doesn't work, we'll look at the logs
[12:00] <omegaomni> thanks...ima write that down
[12:01] <jim_p> ablyss[mobile]: me, in windows
[12:01] <Transporter> guys anyone here uses gnome???
[12:01] <rconan> omegaomni, you'll have to use sudo for that
[12:01] <fde> Transporter: nope, no one... except those that do
[12:01] <ablyss[mobile]> jim_p: nice me too.  I haven't tried the linux version yet though, you?
[12:01] <Sektor__> troubled, when linking a DLL in windows, everything is resolved and the result is some binary dll, whereas in linux you still have the concept of a library
[12:01] <Kartagis> Transporter, yes
[12:01] <jim_p> ablyss[mobile]: does it have a linux version too?
[12:01] <Transporter> i needed some help getting started
[12:01] <fde> rconan: ahh, forgot that
[12:02] <ablyss[mobile]> jim_p: yes but trail version only ( limited to 5mbits before disconnecting )
[12:02] <jim_p> Transporter: 99% of the people in here are in gnome i guess :P
[12:02] <Transporter> well im basically new to linux
[12:02] <TTilus> i'd like rhythmbox to transcode to mp3 when i throw music into my player.  i've selected mp3 as preferred format from settings but still rhythmbox transcodes to ogg.  :-/
[12:02] <inflex> is there a NFS share/export management tool for Ubuntu ?
[12:02] <jim_p> ablyss[mobile]: let me look
[12:02] <Transporter> i dunno much I knw too much of winsucks
[12:02] <inflex> (so I can share various directories to other Ubuntu boxes)
[12:02] <Transporter> where should i start from????
[12:03] <jim_p> ablyss[mobile]: do you need it for something particular?
[12:03] <TTilus> inflex: would sshfs do what you want?
[12:03] <jim_p> Transporter: synaptic is the best place to start!
[12:03] <Sektor__> inflex, I believe SAMBA can help you with that
[12:03] <wiwin> adhian
[12:03] <Transporter> im just a bit confused
[12:03] <craigtao> hello
[12:03] <Sektor__> inflex, but that might be for the other way around, to access ubuntu box from windows
[12:03] <inflex> No, I need to use NFS.  Bah, no matter, I'll hack it up in the /etc/exports file... just thought maybe Ubuntu would have something specific
[12:03] <ablyss[mobile]> jim_p: no not really. Just trying to get an idea if people use it on linux
[12:04] <Transporter> some ppl are saying that xfce or flux box should be for starters
[12:04] <inflex> It's Ubuntu->Ubuntu  and many other *nix machines
[12:04] <TTilus> inflex: check shares-admin
[12:04] <Sektor__> ah
[12:04] <jim_p> ablyss[mobile]: i checked on their site and it says its for 2 eepcs
[12:04] <TTilus> inflex: or just right-click on folder and select "share"
[12:04] <Transporter> will i encounter problems if i try with gnome first
[12:04] <rconan> Transporter, if you're new using ubuntu with gnome is probably best
[12:05] <rconan> Transporter, most of the easy-to-use bits of ubuntu work best on GNOMe
[12:05] <Transporter> ooohhh is that so???
[12:05] <jim_p> Transporter: xfce is for slower pcs, because xfce is lighter than gnome. anything in *box requires you to be a bit adept with linux and configurations
[12:05] <fde> Transporter: its more a case of system resources, gnome is designed for beginners
[12:05] <wisey> how do i get grub to recognise my vista installation. atm its only recognising ubuntu on the second disk!
[12:05] <shirish> hi all, is there a command or way to find out the capabilities of xterm?
[12:05] <jim_p> Transporter: what pc are you on?
[12:05] <jim_p> shirish: all the commands?
[12:05] <Transporter> lenovo y510
[12:05] <asines> hi! does anyone know - if there is any soft in linux for dj-mixing??
[12:05] <Transporter> laptop
[12:05] <fde> wisey: look in /boot/grub/menu.lst ... it should have an example Windows entry... uncomment it and try it
[12:06] <jim_p> asines: i had seen one a few days ago, wait
[12:06] <fde> Transporter: more precisely...
[12:06] <jim_p> Transporter: cpu, ram in it?
[12:06] <shirish> jim_p: basically need info. about how much buffer is therein and stuff like that.
[12:06] <Transporter> core 2 duo 2gb
[12:06] <fde> Transporter: then Gnome will be fine
[12:06] <rconan> gnome will run fine and is almost definitely the easiest
[12:06] <asines> jim_p: oh nice. i'm waiting
[12:06] <jim_p> asines: mixxx    http://www.mixxx.org/     i think its in the repos
[12:07] <Transporter> i wiped out winsucks vista and loaded ubuntu
[12:07] <jim_p> Transporter: gnome will run perfectly on it
[12:07] <Transporter> i got bugged with vista
[12:07] <asines> jim_p: thanx!
[12:07] <Transporter> perfect
[12:07] <jim_p> asines: yes it is!!!
[12:07] <TTilus> i'd like rhythmbox to transcode to mp3 when i throw music into my player.  i've selected mp3 as preferred format from settings but still rhythmbox transcodes to ogg.  :-/
[12:07] <Transporter> and what about a webcam software that u would recommend
[12:08] <TTilus> Transporter: what you wanna do with your cam?
[12:08] <jim_p> TTilus: you miss some gstreamer plugin to get it to mp3s i think
[12:08] <Transporter> record and remove pics of myself on my webcam
[12:08] <TTilus> jim_p: no i don't, soundconverter makes mp3s just fine
[12:08] <Transporter> i heard about cheese but a bit hesitant
[12:08] <jim_p> TTilus: unfortunately, i dont know the name of it :( it must end in -bar or -ugly
[12:09] <jim_p> TTilus: let me search
[12:09] <wisey> fde, shall i do this in ubuntu
[12:09] <Ximal> i downloaded a file but it's extension is *.bundle .... what the heck is this and why can't i open it ?
[12:09] <orgthingy> hi
[12:09] <rconan> Ximal, what is the file?
[12:09] <ikonia> Ximal: what are you trying to install
[12:09] <orgthingy> is there a way to use something saner than stupid pulseaudio :P ?
[12:09] <fde> wisey: uhh... yes
[12:09] <jim_p> TTilus: do you have gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad and gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly installed?
[12:10] <Ximal> vmware-player.bundle is the full files name
[12:10] <TTilus> jim_p: pkg was gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
[12:10] <ikonia> Ximal: run file against it
[12:10] <TTilus> jim_p: and yes, i do have it
[12:10] <Ximal> ikonia please put that in an example
[12:10] <ikonia> Ximal: where did you get it
[12:10] <Ximal> vmwARE.COM
[12:10] <ikonia> Ximal: file $filename
[12:10] <TTilus> jim_p: otherwise i dont think i would even have "CD quality (MP3)" on the list of possible formats
[12:11] <jim_p> TTilus: try this too gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
[12:11] <TTilus> jim_p: whats fluendo?
[12:11] <Ximal> error archive type not supported
[12:11] <erUSUL> TTilus: a company
[12:11] <jim_p> TTilus: this is some plugin of gstreamer used by brasero to make mp3s i think. try it
[12:11] <ChrisBeswick> chmod +x vmware-player.buddle
[12:11] <Teisei> Hi! I have a problem with Compiz. Whenever my laptop wakes up from sleep mode, my Compiz looks horrible ... skydome and cube caps are gone ...
[12:11] <ChrisBeswick> then run it
[12:12] <ChrisBeswick> from a terminal
[12:12] <ChrisBeswick> ./vmware-player.bundle
[12:12] <paul__> Hello, I need to install an application called Autodesk Maya Unlimited, in the installation guide it says that these 3 are the supported Linux OS's :
[12:12] <Ximal> huh .. what's the x for ?
[12:12] <paul__> • Red Hat® Enterprise Linux WS 4.0 update 4
[12:12] <paul__> • Fedora Core 5
[12:12] <paul__> • SUSETM 10.2
[12:12] <paul__> Will this work on Ubuntu?
[12:12] <FloodBot2> paul__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:12] <jim_p> Teisei: do not hibernate then. or stop compiz beforehand
[12:12] <ChrisBeswick> to make it executable
[12:12] <_spm_Draget> Is it possible that lftp 3.7.4 has a bug concerning ftps? When I connect, login and try 'ls', I get 'FEAT negotiation' all the time
[12:12] <rconan> paul__, you can get it to work, it's difficult though
[12:12] <ChrisBeswick> its a shell script installer
[12:13] <jim_p> paul__: can you show us the page or the file you downloaded?
[12:13] <pw-toxic> how can i open a file out of the console using the standard program for the associated file?
[12:13] <K_Dallas> Q: I was reading the link given to me about pulseaudio and got a bit confused. Does hardy come with pulseaudio and if so, do I have to follow any of the steps given in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio to make it better or so? Thanks
[12:13] <pw-toxic> i want to perform a "double click" on a file on my desktop  using the console
[12:13] <ChrisBeswick> is there not an install guide?
[12:13] <pw-toxic> well i just want to have the same result
[12:13] <rconan> paul__, is this maya 2009? for 64-bit?
[12:13] <Teisei> jim_p: But I like suspend mode because I don't want to restart my computer every half an hour or so ... So you suggest me to take effects off every time I want to suspend?
[12:13] <paul__> jim_p: It is a pdf which I got along with the DVD
[12:13] <paul__> ITS maya 2008 for 32-bit
[12:13] <jim_p> pw-toxic: gnome-open file.txt
[12:13] <fde> K_Dallas: I would recommend it, yes... as in hardy, pulseaudio was poor
[12:13] <rconan> paul__, ok, that makes some things easier.
[12:14] <K_Dallas> fde, great, thanks a lot
[12:14] <rconan> paul__, you need to convert all the rpms to debs using alien and install
[12:14] <jim_p> paul__: the installer is a .run, a .rpm or something?
[12:14] <paul__> .rpm
[12:14] <pw-toxic> jim_p: thx, but this is desktop dependant i think - i'd like to have a command which works for most linux desktops
[12:14] <sw> hi
[12:14] <jdk1976> currently installing ubuntu 8.10 on my wife's macbook air
[12:14] <jdk1976> wooohooo
[12:14] <TTilus> jim_p: how do i use that?  installed it already, but there was nothing added to available target formats nor rhythmbox plugin list
[12:15] <jim_p> paul__: then sadly its an rpm :( although i dislike alien converting, you have to convert. pray it wont break anything
[12:15] <fde> paul__: sudo aptitude install alien && sudo alien --to-deb whatever.rpm
[12:15] <jrib> pw-toxic: does gvfs-open suit your needs?
[12:15] <pw-toxic> jdk1976: ahh i need you ;) i want to buy the "new macbook" and i want to install ubuntu too
[12:15] <pw-toxic> jdk1976: can i query you?
[12:15] <jdk1976> it's been a while since i was this excited about a linux install
[12:15] <jdk1976> sure
[12:15] <K_Dallas> btw, i received the 8.10 CDs yesterday! It was pretty fast ;)
[12:15] <pw-toxic> jrib: well i dont know what gvfs-open is ;)
[12:15] <jim_p> pw-toxic: dunno then. you can also force it with an app, like ff opening html
[12:15] <rconan> paul__, are there 4 rpms? two maya ones and two flex licensing ones?
[12:15] <jdk1976> pw-toxic, yes
[12:15] <craigtao> hello
[12:16] <paul__> rconan: let me check
[12:16] <shirish> is there a way to get a listing of all the codes supported by system? I mean by codes like ASCII, UTF-8, UTF-16 and others?
[12:16] <radoen> where can I get the lastet beta of kernel just patched?
[12:16] <_spm_Draget> What does 'FEAT negotiation' stand for? My ftps client (lftp) hangs at that point.
[12:16] <jim_p> TTilus: dunno then, i dont use rhytmbox.
[12:16] <TTilus> jim_p: ;)
[12:16] <jim_p> TTilus: you can always use another app to do the converstion from audio cds
[12:17] <jim_p> radoen: kernel.org maybe?
[12:17] <TTilus> jim_p: humm, looks like there's a transcode format bug reported against rb ... gotta check that
[12:17] <_spm_Draget> Does anyone know another command-line ftps client byside lftp?
[12:17] <TTilus> jim_p: ive done just that, soundconvert works for me just fine
[12:17] <bmagoha> hi all
[12:17] <radoen> I know but where is the kernel just patched?
[12:17] <waan> Can anyone help me figure out why ubuntu wont wake up from suspend. It's been like that since hardy
[12:17] <jim_p> radoen: you want it on a .deb?
[12:18] <radoen> no
[12:18] <radoen> I need src
[12:18] <jim_p> radoen: then kernel.org
[12:18] <radoen> but just pachet at last beta release
[12:18] <bmagoha> am using ubuntu 8.04 but there is this thing which causes windows to come up empty without the fields,
[12:18] <bmagoha> i moved away from opensuse because of this it is also here?
[12:18] <jim_p> bmagoha: fields?
[12:18] <bmagoha> year
[12:18] <radoen> The latest prepatch for the stable Linux kernel tree is:  	2.6.28-rc5
[12:19] <paul__> rconan: these are the linux installation files : http://img380.imageshack.us/my.php?image=examjd4.png
[12:19] <radoen> but the link is the patch
[12:19] <jim_p> bmagoha: can you please make an example?
[12:19] <shogran> i cant get a program to run on my winblows virtual box
[12:19] <radoen> i need the src whit the patch included
[12:19] <bmagoha> when launching windows they just appear empty or squeezed in a corner. what is this?
[12:19] <jrib> pw-toxic: I knew that didn't sound right.  gvfs-open is not what you want.  xdg-open is :)
[12:19] <ikonia> radoen if you cant fund the source, you should'nt be building
[12:20] <erUSUL> shogran: this is not a windows channel nor VBox users one...
[12:20] <shogran> k
[12:20] <jim_p> shogran: what program?
[12:20] <shogran> jim_p war chess
[12:20] <erUSUL> radoen: you have to aply the patch to the 2.6.27 sources
[12:20] <rconan> paul__, that is different to 2009, I didn't have any aksusb things
[12:20] <bmagoha> jim_p: when launching java appliacations sometimes windows appear without anything just a blank white window,
[12:21] <ChrisBeswick> radoen you want the latest kernel sources? as in http://www.kernel.org/, or the ubuntu patched ones?
[12:21] <jim_p> shogran: is it in 3d? vbox nas no 3d acceleration at all
[12:21] <radoen> i need the lastet kernel beta
[12:21] <ikonia> radoen nothing to do with ubuntu then
[12:21] <erUSUL> radoen: or use ketchup
[12:21] <jrib> radoen: why?
[12:21] <paul__> rconan: i dont think the aksusbd makes a difference
[12:21] <ChrisBeswick> then go to www.kernel.org and download it
[12:21] <ikonia> radoen: this channel is for ubuntu isues only
[12:21] <jim_p> bmagoha: so its java problem?
[12:21] <erUSUL> !info ketchup | radoen
[12:21] <radoen> problem whit acpi
[12:21] <shogran> jim_p got it.. ... darn you vbox.. darn dirty apes
[12:22] <radoen> ubuntu kernel have problem with my acpi
[12:22] <jim_p> shogran: well its not vbox fault!
[12:22] <shogran> it wont wine either
[12:22] <rconan> paul__, have you seen this page: http://zardoz-technomage.es/blog/3d/187/
[12:22] <bmagoha> year am using java 6 currently
[12:22] <jrib> !kernel > radoen
[12:22] <rconan> paul__, that's pretty much what I did to install 2009
[12:22] <shogran> yes it is.. they should have said hey.. maybe people want to do some 3d stuff
[12:22] <bmagoha> what is this problem i saw it in opensuse and now here again!!!
[12:22] <radoen> ok
[12:22] <jrib> bmagoha: see if it happens if you turn off effects
[12:22] <radoen> thanks
[12:22] <paul__> rconan: alright thanks i'll try it out
[12:23] <ChrisBeswick> radeon, i think the "ubuntu" way is listed here... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[12:23] <jim_p> shogran: no virtualization solution is as developed as to have PROPER 3d acceleration
[12:23] <sKeiths> I downloaded sources and am trying to compile, but, cc compiler is missing and apt-get cc returns no cc package. any help on finding cc
[12:23] <jrib> sKeiths: what are you compiling?
[12:23] <bmagoha> jrib: hmm....compiz or what ?
[12:23] <erUSUL> sKeiths: install build-essential
[12:23] <jrib> bmagoha: yes, turn it off in your Appearance preferences
[12:23] <shogran> i know.. im just venting at this point
[12:24] <ikonia>  shogran please don't
[12:24] <jim_p> bmagoha: try telling the system of the java runtime executable thing
[12:24] <sKeiths> still 'ee' the easy editor. its been discontinued in the packages. thanks erUSUL
[12:24] <radoen> ok I'm looking for an how-to to apply the patch to the kernel source code
[12:24] <jim_p> !java
[12:24] <jim_p> bmagoha: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[12:24] <lamego> the java text needs to be updated to openjdk
[12:24] <jrib> radoen: 'man patch' is very readable
[12:25] <jrib> joaopinto: the factoid or the wiki?
[12:25] <joaopinto> jrib, the factoid, didn't checked the wiki
[12:25] <bmagoha> jim_p: but there is only   one java in this machine?
[12:25] <jrib> joaopinto: what part of the factoid?
[12:25] <afief> Is there a way to install the KDE4.2 Beta in Ubuntu?
[12:26] <jim_p> bmagoha: ok, choose it from the dialog box
[12:26] <bmagoha> jim_p: There is only 1 program which provides java
[12:26] <ikonia> afief: is there a package yet ?
[12:26] <bmagoha> (/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/java). Nothing to configure.
[12:26] <bmagoha> jim_p: which dialog box?
[12:26] <joaopinto> jrib, since openjdk was moved to main, that should be recommended java version
[12:27] <jim_p> bmagoha: doesnt a dialog box appear inside the terminal when you run that command?
[12:27] <afief> ikonia: I haven't seen one, did you?
[12:27] <jrib> joaopinto: submit a correction to the bot
[12:27] <bmagoha> jim_p: there is dialog box
[12:27] <ikonia> afief: nope, so the answer is "no"
[12:27] <jrib> !ubottu > joaopinto
[12:27] <bmagoha> jim_p: sorry there is none
[12:27] <waan> Can anyone help me figure out why ubuntu wont wake up from suspend. It's been like that since hardy
[12:28] <shirish> hi all, can I get a list of character-encodings supported by ubuntu, I see a good list in GNOME-terminal terminal > Set Character Encoding
[12:28] <ikonia> waan: do you have an ati video card ?
[12:28] <ikonia> waan: thats one of the common issues
[12:28] <shirish> I want to get the same in a list format
[12:28] <jim_p> bmagoha: sorry then, i dont know anything more :(
[12:28] <wisey> fde, i'm in menu.lst. http://pastebin.com/m4824f17a
[12:28] <bmagoha> jim_p: thanks
[12:29] <waan> ikonia: yep, but I have compiz turn off, just using metacity
[12:29] <kri> hi, how do i change what happens with window when double klick? i don't want it to minimize/maximize...?
[12:29] <radoen> ok patching!
[12:29] <jrib> kri: system -> preferences -> windows
[12:30] <kri> jrib: ok, not anywhere in gconf-editor then.
[12:30] <TJ-42> I'm using the deskbar-applet that comes with ubuntu and I noticed that "web searches (mozilla)" extension is failing with an error because "firefox version must be between <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>".  How do I fix this?
[12:30] <jim_p> kri: i think its inside here /apps/metacity/general
[12:30] <waan> ikonia: do you know of a fix?
[12:30] <jrib> kri: yes, it's set through gconf, but system -> preferences -> windows is where users should set it
[12:30] <ChrisBeswick> does mythtv support lirc directly or do you need to write a lircrc file and place it in ~/.mythtv to remap to the key presses?
[12:31] <lee_> Hi, I'm trying to compile ffmpeg with AAC + H.264 support, and make returns an error about "dsputil.c: In function ‘h263_v_loop_filter_c’", and starts with "dsputil.c:2685: error: ‘ENABLE_H263_ENCODER’ undeclared (first use in this function)"
[12:31] <lee_> What is wrong?
[12:31] <nikki93> I'm playing a music stream on VLC (shoutcast). My internet connection is very slow today, and it keeps chopping it up. Is there any way to make VLC stream in more of the fil ebefore playing it?
[12:31] <nikki93> *file
[12:31] <waan> ikonia: I have a notebook and it's the *only* think I have a problem with, I wish there was a way
[12:31] <jrib> lee_: just use medibuntu
[12:31] <kri> is there a way to with just 2 buttoms say ctrl + mousemovement change a window size?
[12:32] <lee_> jrib: how to make Ubuntu prefer the medibuntu repos?
[12:32] <kri> i know is possible maybe not in gnome
[12:32] <shogran> kri : beryl allows you to do things like that
[12:33] <ikonia> shogran: beryl is dead
[12:33] <|Chrizz|> Can anyone help me with installing java in firefox?
[12:33] <shogran> Funny, Ive been using it.
[12:33] <jrib> lee_: oh, medibuntu doesn't have ffmpeg packages up.  weird
[12:33] <ikonia> kri: compiz-fusion replaced beryl over a year ago
[12:33] <shogran> im out of the loop ..
[12:33] <lee_> Damnit!
[12:33] <ikonia> kri: beryl is installed default on systems post 7.04
[12:33] <ikonia> kri: sorry compiz-fusion is installed, not beryl
[12:33] <jrib> |Chrizz|: install sun-java6-plugin
[12:34] <lee_> why is it so hard to get a decent Mp4 conversion done in Linux
[12:34] <doors98> pls help,im having a hard time printing to windows xp, its been 3 days that i cant figure out, this is my first install on ubuntu
[12:34] <|Chrizz|> jrib: Been looking for that all day. Thx
[12:34] <b33r> Hello is there any way to delete files to make them completely unrecoverable?
[12:34] <wisey> can somebody help me configure my vista installation to work with grub, i'm in menu.lst. http://pastebin.com/m4824f17a
[12:34] <jrib> lee_: they used to for hardy :/ .  You can look at that package to see what the build-deps are and how they are compilinig it in debian/rules I guess
[12:34] <kri> ok, so my option is not possible anymore? i noted in ubuntu 8.10 that the area that allows you to change size of a window is bigger, but still the short command is nice is it possible?
[12:34] <jim_p> doors98: let me guess... hp printer?
[12:34] <Pici> b33r: Try shred.
[12:34] <lee_> jrib: i installed the build deps for the source, but it fails to compile with my choice of options
[12:34] <doors98> jim_p, yap hp deskjet 2460
[12:34] <fde> wisey: yeah... if you look in the examples section, you'll see the title    Windows   example.... uncomment it
[12:35] <fde> wisey: you can change the title if you want, doesn't really matter though
[12:35] <kri> compiz-fusion?
[12:35] <kri> ikonia:
[12:35] <jim_p> doors98: install hplip from here http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/index.html
[12:35] <ikonia> kri: yes, compiz-fusion
[12:35] <doors98> jim_p:install on windows or on ubuntu?
[12:36] <AdvoWork> Hi there, got a big problem, restarted my Ubuntu machine, it turns back on, shows the Ubuntu logo and progress bar and stays on that for ages!eventually bringing up BusyBox v1.1.3 etc etc, leaving me with (initramfs) any ideas please? :S
[12:36] <m2k> lee_, what are you trying to convert to/from
[12:36] <paul__> asd
[12:36] <jim_p> doors98: in linux
[12:36] <m2k> AdvoWork, try recovery mode to see what is happening during startup
[12:36] <lee_> m2k: anything supported -> iPod/Quicktime compatible MP4
[12:37] <AdvoWork> m2k how do you get into that?
[12:37] <kri> ikonia: ok, how can i configure it?
[12:37] <b33r> Pici, how do you use shred and are you sure there wont be any way to recover the files I don't want to take any risks
[12:37] <doors98> jim_p: can u monitor my msg later so that i'l go on my linux to try? by the way after installing on linux will it work?
[12:37] <m2k> lee_, use media encoder mediacoder.sourceforge.net
[12:37] <ChrisBeswick> AdvoWork, you install on windows and using grub4dos?
[12:37] <lee_> m2k: ok i'll try that, thanks
[12:37] <m2k> AdvoWork, hit esc at startup to bring up the menu
[12:38] <jim_p> doors98: sure i will be here for the next hour. highlight me or pm me
[12:38] <m2k> lee_, it is command line but you can search for good settings to use for ipod quicktime or mp4
[12:38] <doors98> jim_p: tnx
[12:38] <lee_> m2k: ...linux with wine? this is a Windows application?
[12:38] <Pici> b33r: Check its manpage.  It explains how it may or may not be secure depending on what type of system you are running it on
[12:39] <m2k> lee_, err wrong url hang on
[12:39] <lee_> m2k: ah ok, I've already tried Windows solutions under Wine and I just end up with audio which is out-of-sync
[12:39] <kri> ikonia: ccsm --> general options --> key bindings. (but where do i find ccsm?)
[12:39] <doors98> jim_p: after installing on linux what will i do next, i remmeber i donwloaded the file but i don't know how to execute the file with .run
[12:40] <jrib> !ccsm | kri
[12:40] <wisey> fde, it now reads like this, http://pastebin.com/m66c1c267 . will this solve my problem?
[12:40] <jim_p> doors98: at a terminal            sudo chmod +x hplip-something.run           and             sudo sh hplip-something.run      and wait
[12:41] <fde> wisey: no, you need to uncomment the next 3 lines down to chainloader +1 too
[12:41] <doors98> jim_p: what will i type? all of that? sudo chmod +x hplip-something.run and sudo sh hplip-something.run
[12:41] <jim_p> doors98: sudo chmod ....                   wait a bit
[12:42] <jim_p> doors98: sudo sh ...                   wait a bit, and follow the instructions
[12:42] <wisey> fde, ok
[12:42] <doors98> jim_p: okey tnx i'l go and d/l now
[12:42] <jim_p> ok
[12:43] <the_dark_warrio> is there a shortcut to open a location (directory)?
[12:43] <jburd> I'm trying to boot my desktop computer using the Ubuntu DVD but all I see is a black screen.  The weird thing is, on another computer with the same configuration an upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 workd flawlessly.
[12:43] <wisey> fde, now its saying i can't save. Do i need to change the permissions on the file
[12:43] <jim_p> the_dark_warrio: nautilus --browser /path/to/folder
[12:43] <Cedara> hi
[12:44] <jburd> The computer has an nvidia 6150 geforce graphics cad
[12:44] <fde> wisey: you were supposed to edit it with sudo...
[12:44] <jim_p> jburd: is the disk checked for errors?
[12:45] <jburd> jim_p:  I verified it during burning.  It reported success.
[12:45] <the_dark_warrio> jim_p: well, I was thinking of a "<Super> + E" thing, but thats helpfull anyway =p thanks
[12:45] <stevem> I have two wired networks enabled at the same time... Can I tell Network-Manager to prefer one over the other when trying to route?
[12:45] <jim_p> jburd: i think there is an option in the 1st menu, try that too
[12:45] <jburd> jim_p: Ok, I'll do that.
[12:45] <Mohammad[B]> i need a portable irc client :-s
[12:46] <AdvoWork> m2k virtual or generic?
[12:46] <m2k> lee_, meant to say mencoder: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MEncoder
[12:46] <lee_> m2k: ok but I think I already have that
[12:46] <jburd> A suggestion though.  It reads "Check CD for defects" when I'm using a DVD.  Can confuse users.  Perhaps "Check disc for defects" might be better
[12:46] <jim_p> the_dark_warrio: lol, you can do that too. System > preferences >Keyboard shortcuts i think. is it a custom shortcut you want to make?
[12:46] <mon^rch> how long will there be support for hardy again? 2010?
[12:46] <wisey> fde, noob sorry. what is the command to open it
[12:47] <jim_p> mon^rch: 2011
[12:47] <fde> wisey: sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:47] <m2k> lee_, it might be easier to use something like media-convert.com or mux.am
[12:47] <stevem> sudo chop
[12:47] <mon^rch> ty jim_p
[12:47] <lee_> m2k: are those web-based ones?
[12:47] <m2k> AdvoWork, virtual or generic what?
[12:47] <DarkOO> Any idea how to fix suspend and hibernate in 8.10 on Gericom X5. Running sudo /etc/acpi/sleep.sh somehow works but clicking on suspend in shutdown menu not. Ubuntu suspends computer but after resume there is only black screen. No CTRL+ALT+BACKSPCE or CTR+ALT+DELETE is not working.
[12:48] <lee_> m2k: bad idea, each file is ~200+MB, would be very bad :)
[12:48] <m2k> lee_, yeah, if that doesnt work for you also there might be a gui for mencoder
[12:48] <m2k> lee_, depends on your internet connection ;)
[12:48] <lee_> m2k: dsl, 409kbit (about 39-40KByte) upspeed xD
[12:48] <fde> wisey: I have to go... when you're done, hit ctrl + q ... then hit y ... then you should be set to reboot into Windows
[12:48] <AdvoWork> m2k i pressed ESC and its given me a list: ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-21-virtual or -virtual(recovery mode) or generic and so on
[12:49] <alec868> i just installed ubuntu 8.10 on eee pc 900. wireless doesnt work, can anyone help?
[12:49] <fde> wisey: if it doesn't work, come back here and ask someone about how to tell what drive Windows is installed to and how to point grub at that... but it should be fine right now
[12:49] <wisey> fde, i'm just going to reboot and see what happens. thanks!
[12:49] <lee_> m2k: i tried podencoder but that needed ffmpeg/mencoder compiled with H264+AAC support, which is why I came here, because ffmpeg wouldnt compile, i'll try mencoder now though
[12:49] <waan> Can anyone help me figure out how to fix wake from suspend. It's been like that for gutsy, hardy and intrepid
[12:50] <user__> hello. what programs do i have to choose from if i want a ymsgr like platform for ubuntu?
[12:50] <m2k> AdvoWork, which is the default? pick one of the recovery options, generic should be ok
[12:50] <jim_p> user__: pidgin
[12:50] <waan> user__: pidgin
[12:50] <m2k> AdvoWork, why doyou have so many kernels installed?
[12:50] <user__> i have that but that's not really too ymsgr like
[12:50] <user__> any other alternatives?
[12:50] <AdvoWork> m2k god knows, ive not done anything other than install ubuntu
[12:51] <waan> user__: pidgin is the best im client i've ever used. But try searching in the repository
[12:51] <m2k> alec868, there is an eee pc version of ubuntu, search on google and you can probably install their drivers to regular ubuntu
[12:52] <AdvoWork> m2k its botting now, all i did was recovery, fix broken packages? and then it finished, enter > normal boot, then its ok
[12:52] <orly_owl> Is Brasero the default CD burning app for hardy?
[12:52] <m2k> AdvoWork, lol well generic kernel recovery mode should be fine, to see what errors there re
[12:52] <m2k> *are
[12:53] <alec868> m2k: i dont want the eee pc version, i had xandros eee and it was extremely limited. i have thre system installed and it works great, i just need wireless
[12:53] <jdk1976> anyone here experienced with sertting up ubuntu on macbook?  i missed something about making the "windows" partition (the partition with ubuntu on it) active so it will show up in bootcamp. is there a way to fix this?
[12:53] <m2k> orly_owl, dont think so, although it might be installed
[12:53] <wisey> guys, it didn't work. I'm trying to tell grub to load my vista installation. How do i do it?
[12:53] <orly_owl> is it gnomebaker?
[12:53] <lee_> this is silly, all the guides for ipod video conversion with mencoder are from ipod mp4 to divx or something useless in this situation :(
[12:53] <orly_owl> !GnomeBaker
[12:53] <dubi> hello all can anyone tell me how to tell if i have 3d acceleration?
[12:53] <ChrisBeswick> advowork, does the boot prompt say grub or grub4dos?
[12:53] <orly_owl> !Brasero
[12:53] <AdvoWork> m2k thankyou for the help
[12:54] <m2k> jdk1976, have you seen the guides about ubuntu on macbook & bootcamp?
[12:55] <jdk1976> m2k. i'm using one for this, but it sort of skips right over that section
[12:55] <amigamia> if i wanted to host multiple domains in ubuntu 8.10 does it provide this facitilty in the desktop release?
[12:55] <jdk1976> m2k got a link? or should i just google it?
[12:55] <m2k> jdk1976, ok which one and what step are you on
[12:56] <jdk1976> m2k. i'm done with install of 8.10 on macbook air
[12:56] <m2k> jdk1976, look first and see
[12:56] <jdk1976> i'll check in bootcamp
[12:56] <jdk1976> one sec
[12:56] <wisey> i can't believe this!
[12:56] <adac> Can someone tell me where I can download the stunnel4 source code?
[12:57] <doors98> jim_p:after i installed hplip what will i do next
[12:58] <jpazminor> helo
[12:58] <jdk1976> WOW. this is kind of bad. OSX can't recover the disk if this doesn't work, apparently, that disk space is just lost. boot camp doesn't see the parrtition
[12:58] <Guest88969> hi, i want to record some sound (me talking) but none of the sound aps seem to be set up properly with my soundcard
[12:58] <Guest88969> where could I strart t/shooting
[12:58] <jdk1976> ubuntu is on the partition, surely installed fine
[12:59] <jdk1976> i wonder if grub can override bootcamp
[12:59] <Pici> adac: apt-get source stunnel4
[12:59] <jim_p> doors98: configure it, look here http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/install/install/index.html           Using HP-Setup to configure your printer.
[12:59] <m2k> Guest31615, try searching your sound card model and ubuntu to see if it is a driver problem
[12:59] <SOURdiesel> what are the pros/cons for extending the swap partition if any?
[12:59] <adac> Pici: thx!
[13:00] <aRahim> any foss softwares to view cdr files (corel draw)
[13:00] <Guest88969> well my sound card isn't supported properly under ubuntu, i have to use a modem driver
[13:00] <Guest88969> but output is fine
[13:00] <SOURdiesel> what are the pros/cons for extending the swap partition if any?
[13:01] <Guest88969> and as far as I know modems accept sound input
[13:01] <ActionParsnip1> SOURdiesel: its more virtual memory
[13:01] <Guest88969> snd-hnd-intel
[13:01] <m2k> Guest31615, probably check the forums and see what other users with that card have done
[13:01] <ubd> i want to change or update my sound drivers
[13:01] <SOURdiesel> ActionParsnip1:  whats a good size other than 1H to extend the swap partition to?
[13:01] <SOURdiesel> oops 1G
[13:02] <nathan362> please how to make crontab -e to open vim editor, not nano?
[13:02] <kanhiya78> hello everybody
[13:02] <amigamia> os x works great on my macbook  :D
[13:02] <m2k> SOURdiesel, it depends how much memory your system has and what applications you are running
[13:02] <amigamia> if i wanted to host multiple domains in ubuntu 8.10 does it provide this facitilty in the desktop release?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> SOURdiesel: depends on how you use your system
[13:02] <doors98> jim_p: by the way i run it t the terminal, is it right? juz like in DOS for windows?
[13:03] <kanhiya78> is there any program like disk defragmentator
[13:03] <aRahim> can i use inkscape to view cdr files? plz help
[13:03] <m2k> amigamia, yes but you must install and configure a web server like apache. this is not too difficult and there are many guides
[13:03] <LjL> !defrag | kanhiya78
[13:03] <amigamia> you dont need disk defrag in osx :)
[13:03] <LjL> !info defrag | kanhiya78
[13:03] <SOURdiesel> m2k, ActionParsnip: 8GB of RAM, multimedia
[13:03] <amigamia> apache is default isnt it?
[13:03] <LjL> amigamia: i assumed the question was about Ubuntu
[13:03] <ActionParsnip1> SOURdiesel: define multimedia?
[13:03] <ray16> can some one help me in pm so i can tell you one 2 one please
[13:03] <ubd> i want to change or update my sound drivers the sound is noisy
[13:03] <amigamia> yes ubuntu
[13:03] <LjL> amigamia: what do you mean default?
[13:03] <Pici> nathan362: crontab -e respects $EDITOR, so you can do    sudo update-alternatives --config editor   or modify it for just your user in .profile or similar.
[13:03] <SOURdiesel> m2k, ActionParsnip1: is 5GB overkill for the swap partition?
[13:03] <amigamia> 8.1 i thin
[13:03] <ActionParsnip1> ray16: ask in here
[13:04] <dubi> hello can anyone tell me how to tell if i have 3d acceleration in intrepid?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip1> SOURdiesel: if you need it then its fine
[13:04] <amigamia> well apache is just the web server by defacto isnt it?
[13:04] <amigamia> it just comers pre installed
[13:04] <ActionParsnip1> dubi: glxinfo | grep -i direct
[13:04] <LjL> amigamia: it's the most likely used, for sure. but no, it doesn't come pre-installed in Ubuntu at all.
[13:04] <aRahim> need a converter to convert cdr to svg file
[13:04] <SOURdiesel> ActionParsnip: video editing and media center more than anything.
[13:04] <m2k> SOURdiesel, what was the default swap? with 8gb ram a 8-16gb swap would be fine
[13:04] <ActionParsnip1> amigamia: not in a standard ubuntu install
[13:04] <LjL> amigamia: most desktop users don't want or need a web server installed, and it would actually be a security threat for them to have one.
[13:04] <ActionParsnip1> !info apache2 | amigamia
[13:04] <amigamia> wow i had no idea
[13:04] <jim_p> doors98: yea. you should be donw with istallation now, and move to Using HP-Setup to configure your printer part
[13:04] <ray16> can any one tell me how to set my own triva bot up and put it in my room ???
[13:04] <SOURdiesel> m2k: default swap is 1GB
[13:05] <amigamia> that is amazing.
[13:05] <m2k> SOURdiesel, it will almost never get used but there is no harm, unless you are short of disk space
[13:05] <LjL> ray16, not here, perhaps ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:05] <amigamia> well with server it does i would suspect.
[13:05] <jburd> jim_p: The disc check finished.  The Disc is fine
[13:05] <LjL> amigamia: with server, it depends what server components you tell it to install
[13:05] <amigamia> i thought apache was just included in all distrobutions today by default?
[13:05] <SOURdiesel> m2k: the OS has it's own ssd 32GB drive.
[13:05] <LjL> amigamia: you thought completely wrong
[13:05] <ActionParsnip1> amigamia: server comes with very little, you can install LAMP
[13:05] <amigamia> geez oh man
[13:05] <ActionParsnip1> !lamp | amigamia
[13:05] <amigamia> ok thanks
[13:06] <m2k> SOURdiesel, it just depends if your programs will use that hd space on their own, or prefer a larger virtual memory
[13:06] <jpazminor> |
[13:06] <jim_p> jburd: i suggest the md5sum check on the .sio file, but its irrelevant now. are you sure both pcs are identical? in linux ati and nvidia in 2 similar pcs makes a huge difference
[13:06] <SOURdiesel> m2k, ActionParsnip1: thanks guys.
[13:07] <jburd> jim_p: I downloaded it using a torrent which automatically checks for sums
[13:07] <jburd> jim_p: Yes, both PCs are identical
[13:07] <jim_p> jburd: and on nvidia?
[13:07] <jburd> jim_p: yep.  nvidia geforce 6150
[13:07] <m2k> amigamia, the webserver is a package that can be installed
[13:08] <m2k> its an install option on server
[13:08] <ubd> i want to change or update my sound drivers the sound is noisy even if i dont play aything
[13:08] <dubi> thanks actionparsnip
[13:08] <jburd> I can give you a dump of lshw if you need it. @ jim_p
[13:08] <m2k> ubd, what sound card do you have?
[13:08] <kri> i want to only change 1 setting i want to be able to change size of a window (with a keybind like ctrl+mousemovement). should i install 'simple-ccsm' or 'compizconfig-settings-manager'? im in ubunutu 8.10, gnome.
[13:08] <azimout> question: if i blacklist a module in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, what might cause it to still be loaded?
[13:09] <jim_p> jburd: an lspci is enough. pm me it
[13:09] <ubd> intel 82801dc-ich4 (think)
[13:09] <PeskyJ> is there another ubuntu channel for development questions?
[13:09] <wisey> what is YaST2 control loader
[13:10] <jrib> PeskyJ: what kind of development questions?
[13:10] <PeskyJ> jrib: like how does X, Y, and Z  work (under the hood)? I want to know more about how drag and drop works on a coding level
[13:11] <wisey> i'm still trying to get my vista installation working, help is required
[13:11] <soho> anybody using deluge with the blocklist?
[13:12] <Pici> wisey: This is the Ubuntu support channel, perhaps you should be asking in a SuSe or Windows channel.
[13:12] <stevem> Hi, I've 2 wired networks - want to prefer one over the other for routing... how can this be done?
[13:12] <wisey> Pici, i'm trying to configure grub
[13:12] <soho> stevem; you can set it in network-manager-prefs
[13:12] <jrib> PeskyJ: in gnome?  try #gtk on gimpnet (there's probably one on freenode too) I guess
[13:12] <PeskyJ> jrib: ok, ta
[13:12] <Pici> wisey: YaST is a SuSe tool.
[13:12] <SOURdiesel> m2k: there's /dev/sda2 extended with a deop down option and in there is a /dev/sda5 linux-swap
[13:13] <jrib> PeskyJ: erm, #gtk+
[13:13] <wisey> pici, i must be reading the wrong page then
[13:13] <jburd> jim_p: http://rafb.net/p/5TFSrH66.html
[13:13] <SOURdiesel> *drop
[13:13] <m2k> SOURdiesel, you have to unmount the partition and it cannot be active
[13:13] <wisey> SuSe
[13:13] <SOURdiesel> m2k: ah
[13:14] <SOURdiesel> m2k: that option is greyed oit also
[13:15] <jim_p> jburd: then i dont know what to say. try using the alternative cd as a repo to make the upgrade
[13:15] <BadRobot1> hi there
[13:15] <BadRobot1> I need some help regarding how to burn a .dmg on linux
[13:15] <wisey> Pici, can you helo me setup a dual boot of vista and ubuntu. Both are alreay installed on disk hda + hdb
[13:16] <stevem> soho: is that a command?  'network-manager-prefs' ?
[13:16] <stevem> I don't see it
[13:17] <m2k> SOURdiesel, ok, you can use a file to extend the swap instead of changing the partitions
[13:17] <maek0> BadRobot1, http://www.google.com.au/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&=&q=burn+dmg+ubuntu&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[13:17] <Asad2005> I have traced the freezing problem of my pc to the network card RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet. When kept it down system stayed ok. Now i want to know what driver does it use and see if 8.10 use the right one as with ubuntu 8.04 was ok but dont know what was the driver
[13:17] <Pici> wisey: Did you install Windows after Ubuntu?
[13:17] <BadRobot1> thx
[13:18] <m2k> SOURdiesel, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#How%20do%20I%20add%20more%20swap?
[13:18] <ocs2>  hi. i have made a mistake changing my monitor (and its settings) with another. now, when i restart X, alla the screen si messed up. what could i do to repair ?
[13:18] <damnloudfan> Hey People! Is it possible to set the fan speed on a desktop pc? The sound of my fan kills me.
[13:18] <UnknownUser56> damnloudfan:you shouldn't tamper with that
[13:19] <m2k> ocs2, try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[13:19] <junaid> how can i copy a video file from VCD
[13:19] <kanhiya78> hey guys i read from the articles that there is no need to defrag files in linux
[13:19] <damnloudfan> UnknownUser56: i will. either i will find a setting or i will simply cut the power of the fan.
[13:19] <saurabh> hello
[13:19] <wisey> pici, windows before ubuntu. windows on hda and ubuntu on hdb
[13:19] <DIFH-iceroot> kanhiya78: correct
[13:19] <kanhiya78> am i right?
[13:20] <UnknownUser56> damnloudfan:get another fan,or a water cooling system
[13:20] <Pici> wisey: and The Ubuntu install didn't detect Windows when it installed?
[13:20] <m2k> kanhiya78, yeah that is my understanding for the majority of people
[13:20] <K_Dallas> Q: to compile applications from source, do I need to install build-essential to get all the required tools or they are already installed by hardy default installation? Thanks
[13:20] <m2k> with ext2 or ext3?
[13:20] <LjL> junaid: IIRC, it's just an MPEG files somewhere in the disc, although it's probably got a .vcd extension instead of .mpeg
[13:20] <saurabh> hello
[13:20] <LjL> K_Dallas: the former
[13:20] <parkerhiggins> K_Dallas, you have to install build-essential
[13:20] <damnloudfan> UnknownUser56: just bought another fan today. its too loud. im tired. i will check the net and look if there is a bios setting. if not - to hell with the fan.
[13:20] <K_Dallas> thanls LjL parkerhiggins
[13:20] <zimbres> Where is the .bashrc file for the root user?
[13:21] <wisey> Pici, not this time.
[13:21] <m2k> damnloudfan, usually not, the best thing to do is get a higher quality fan, they are pretty cheap
[13:21] <saurabh> can anyone help me in gcc compiler
[13:21] <DIFH-iceroot> zimbres: /root/.bashrc
[13:21] <kanhiya78> ok guys it cuts a schedule task from your life
[13:21] <Pici> !grub | wisey Check out the first link, it may help you.
[13:21] <m2k> damnloudfan, search for quiet pc guides :)
[13:21] <PeskyJ> does launchpad connect to bugs on other applications that don't use launchpad? or does ubuntu only use software from developers that also use launchpad?
[13:21] <damnloudfan> m2k: i will run an experiment and see how long the cpu survives without a fan.
[13:21] <LjL> kanhiya78, unless you fill up your hard drive badly, then fragmentation is unlikely to be an issue
[13:21] <azimout> question: if i blacklist a module in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, what might cause it to still be loaded?
[13:22] <saurabh> i want to use  pow command buts not working even after using math.h
[13:22] <LjL> azimout: having it blacklisted with the wrong syntax, maybe
[13:22] <DIFH-iceroot> damnloudfan: newer cpus does not take any damage without a fan
[13:22] <LjL> azimout: the syntax is: blacklist modulename
[13:22] <m2k> damnloudfan, replace it with another quieter fan ^_^
[13:22] <damnloudfan> DIFH-iceroot: its an old old old cpu
[13:22] <DIFH-iceroot> damnloudfan: they are just underclocking themselves
[13:22] <damnloudfan> m2k: i did that today. still too loud
[13:22] <DIFH-iceroot> damnloudfan: then 2-3 sec
[13:22] <saurabh>  i want to use  pow command buts not working even after using math.h
[13:23] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. Firefox updates.. yes.. now people will quit asking how to get the latest :)
[13:23] <damnloudfan> DIFH-iceroot: i doubt the 2-3sec. that would be without a cooler maybe. but i will leave the cooler on.
[13:23] <LjL> saurabh: compile with the "-lm" flag
[13:23] <DIFH-iceroot> damnloudfan: ah ok, i was speaking without any cooler
[13:23] <LjL> !pm | junaid
[13:23] <saurabh> why do i need -lm
[13:23] <saurabh> it stands for what
[13:24] <LjL> saurabh: because math is a separate library, not part of stdlib. "-lm" links your binary to that library.
[13:24] <m2k> SOURdiesel, what applications are you running? it may affect what you want for the swap file
[13:24] <azimout> ljl: thanx, but it's correct syntax
[13:24] <PeskyJ> saurabh: you should ask in a c programming channel
[13:24] <LjL> azimout: does the module contains _ or -?
[13:24] <azimout> and i checked that i'm not loading it with /etc/modules
[13:24] <mercutio22> histo, I can't write to my flashdrive. I get a message saying its a read-olny file system
[13:24] <junaid> copying  from mpeg folder show error
[13:24] <mercutio22> oops
[13:24] <saurabh> can i use conio.h in for my files in c
[13:25] <LjL> PeskyJ, lauchpad can connect to other bugtrackers as far as i know. perhaps #launchpad would know better
[13:25] <azimout> blacklist lp
[13:25] <azimout> blacklist parport
[13:25] <azimout> blacklist parport_pc
[13:25] <azimout> blacklist ppdev
[13:25] <mercutio22> I meant that question for everyone
[13:25] <FloodBot2> azimout: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:25] <azimout> the only one that stops being loaded is parport_pc
[13:25] <PeskyJ> ljl ta
[13:25] <azimout> the other three still get loaded
[13:25] <LjL> !error | junaid
[13:25] <deoks> PeskyJ: He would probably be kicked out of the C channel if he was asking that question
[13:25] <SOURdiesel> m2k: thanks.
[13:26] <saurabh> ok thanx
[13:26] <saurabh> ljl
[13:26] <saurabh> byeeeeeeeeeee
[13:26] <azimout> and i know lp and ppdev depend on parport
[13:26] <kanhiya78> okay  one more question  ways to decrease cpu usage and increase RAM usage
[13:26] <m2k> SOURdiesel, also if you add a swap file, then you can unmount and modify the current swap partition
[13:26] <lg29> hi i
[13:27] <tatters> I have found a patch i need on launchpad, how do we install these patches?
[13:27] <SOURdiesel> m2k: i saw that
[13:27] <jrib> !source > tatters
[13:27] <SOURdiesel> m2k: i can also load up the live CD and increase the swap partition that way, no?
[13:28] <LjL> azimout: what version of ubuntu?
[13:28] <tuesday_flounder> hi i'm very new to ubuntu can anyone tell me a command to determine if the machine i'm using is 64 or 32 bits, or where to look for this info?
[13:28] <UnknownUser56> SOURdiesel:LVM :)
[13:28] <m2k> SOURdiesel, yup that should work
[13:28] <azimout> 8.10
[13:28] <jrib> tatters: apply the patch (see 'man patch') before you do dpkg-buildpackage.  You probably also want to run 'dch -i' and append ~tatters to the version.
[13:28] <krupa^> hello all! hey, anyone knows how to allow symbolic links in proftpd? ... thanks!
[13:28] <LjL> tuesday_flounder: "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep flags", see if there is the "lm" flag
[13:28] <BadRobot1> 8.10
[13:28] <tuesday_flounder> Ljl: ok, thanks! i'll give it a go
[13:28] <azimout> ljl: 8.10
[13:29] <tatters> jrib: why did u direct me to a link for apt-get, do we use that to apply a patch?
[13:29] <tuesday_flounder> Ljl:  yes lm is there, also lahf_lm .. what does this tell me?
[13:30] <LjL> azimout: don't know... try blacklisting ppdev *before* parport, since parport depends on it
[13:30] <jrib> tatters: well without more context, I'm assuming you need to rebuild a package to apply the patch
[13:30] <azimout> ljl: good idea, thanx, will try it and reboot
[13:30] <ndlovu> I have an external harddrive (ARCHOS) that mounts as a read-only file system. any pointers for mounting it read-write?
[13:30] <tatters> jrib: I assumed a patch could be applied to a script without rebuilding?
[13:31] <jrib> tatters: "without more context"
[13:31] <LjL> tatters: and he should just have guessed using his crystal ball that it's a script you were talking about? ;)
[13:31] <NET||abuse> acch,, annoying,, openoffice has messed up resolving authentication on windows server share..
[13:31] <tatters> jrib: said patch https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gzip/+bug/215863
[13:32] <junaid> I want to copy a video file from a VCD. I try to copy it from mpeg folder (it is possible in xp) but it shows an error "input output error"
[13:32] <desrt> hi.  for the second time now my shiny new intrepid install has the following odd symptoms:
[13:32] <junaid> y  help me
[13:32] <jrib> tatters: you need to rebuild gzip
[13:32] <jrib> tatters: or whatever zgrep.in is in
[13:32] <u7pL> end_request: I/O error, dev sr0 sector 1431176 * what is this ?
[13:33] <desrt> 1) my bluetooth icon is -very- small.  2) dragging icons from the applications menu to the panel creates a launcher that opens the .desktop file in gedit instead of starting the app.  3) in nautilus, all icons are blank and the text contents of the file is drawn off to the side of the icon
[13:33] <T3rmInAt0r> guys....... some help.... I want to run phpmyadminm, but I cant ... (I have installed all the packets)
[13:33] <desrt> last time this happened i blew away all my config files in ~/.*.  that fixed it.  i don't want to do this again.  what's up?
[13:33] <Pici> T3rmInAt0r: http://yoursite/phpmyadmin.
[13:34] <Pici> T3rmInAt0r: er,  http://yoursite/phpmyadmin/    rather
[13:34] <T3rmInAt0r> I do this in my local host
[13:34] <LjL> tuesday_flounder: i don't know about lahf_lm, but "lm" means your processor is 64bit
[13:34] <T3rmInAt0r> it says that it doesn't exist
[13:35] <T3rmInAt0r> Pici, any ideas?
[13:35] <Pici> T3rmInAt0r: You may need to restart apache2
[13:35] <T3rmInAt0r> i did it previously...
[13:35] <don> was los hier?
[13:36] <hudsonh> i am currently having problems updating ubuntu 8.10
[13:36] <paul678> !de |don
[13:36] <reanimation> hi
[13:36] <tuesday_flounder> LJl: hmm, this is confusing because while i was waiting to hear your thoughts i found a forum thread that said if uname -a returned i686 GNU/linux then you're running 32 ?
[13:36] <tuesday_flounder> LJl: (and when i ran uname it indeed returned i686 GNU/linux)
[13:36] <hudsonh> Could not download all repository indexes
[13:37] <hudsonh> any answers
[13:37] <reanimation> hello guys i am having a problem with my logout
[13:37] <T3rmInAt0r> Pici, something more?
[13:37] <paul678> !patience |hudsonh
[13:37] <azimout> hudsonh: possibly malformed lines in /etc/apt/sources.list ???
[13:37] <reanimation> there is an network warning
[13:37] <reanimation> plz help to resolve it
[13:38] <henrik_> Hi! I could really use some help on installing Ubuntu 8.10 Server from USB
[13:38] <henrik_> It looks for the cd-rom, which I don't have, and then I can't proceed.
[13:38] <henrik_> What should I do?
[13:38] <DigitalAngel> Hello everyone
[13:38] <reanimation> some lines are printed during shutdown and network error and warning are printed
[13:39] <paul678> !hi |DigitalAngel
[13:39] <reanimation> plz help me
[13:39] <paul678> !help |reanimation
[13:39] <DigitalAngel> Whats the problem reanimation
[13:39] <henrik_> !usb
[13:39] <wisey> Pici, ubottu. my problem is that grub will not allow the windows bootloader to run
[13:40] <DigitalAngel> Wisey, thats a robot
[13:40] <Pici> T3rmInAt0r: Make sure that /etc/apache2/conf.d/phpmyadmin.conf exists
[13:40] <DigitalAngel> ubottu is a robot
[13:40] <Pici> wisey: Ask the channel, I'm just about to run afk, sorry.
[13:40] <wisey> Pici, ubottu. that article is too theoretical to make this quick
[13:40] <TJ-42> when I connect via ssh into an ubuntu server, how do I make colors appear, just like when I am using the ubuntu command line?
[13:40] <wisey> hu
[13:40] <reanimation> its naot a robot but a pre programmed module
[13:41] <reanimation> not so much intelligent
[13:41] <DigitalAngel> Tj-42, what terminal are you using to connect
[13:41] <DigitalAngel> gnome-terminal or Putty?
[13:42] <reanimation> i want to see the shnapshort of ubuntu logout
[13:42] <TJ-42> digitalAngel, at the terminal, I am just typing ssh *server name*
[13:42] <wisey> digitalAngel, shall i start again with my installations, or learn how to use grub?
[13:42] <TJ-42> DigitalAngel: gnome-terminal I guess
[13:42] <threequarks> in the Kate editor on intrepid, where are the tab icons in the toolbar dissapeared to?
[13:43] <reanimation> anyone,plz tell me the site name to see the shnapshot of ubuntu logout
[13:43] <marcelo> hello
[13:43] <marcelo> guys, I have all my sound levels to MAX
[13:43] <marcelo> but my sound is still low
[13:43] <reanimation> hi
[13:43] <user__> hello. i have pidgin for ymsgr, but when i try to connect with my account it doesn't connect. how can i fix this? i don't have any proxy
[13:44] <marcelo> I have a intel sound card (hda-intel)
[13:44] <DigitalAngel> what is your question wisey?
[13:44] <reanimation> user_,configure you pidgin properly
[13:44] <tuesday_flounder> Ljl: thanks for your help
[13:44] <user__> well i did
[13:45] <user__> because i was able to connect some minutes ago
[13:45] <user__> but now it doesn't work
[13:45] <reanimation> whats the problem arises
[13:45] <henrik_> Okay, it hangs on load installer components from CD. "Failed to copy file from CD-ROM. Retry?"
[13:46] <henrik_> What should I do?
[13:46] <Dr_willis> henrik_,  you created a 'install thumb drive' or what exactly?
[13:47] <reanimation> okay go to accounts -> manage-> add-> here type only your yahoo id i.e part before the @ symbol
[13:47] <henrik_> Dr_willis: yes, I did.
[13:47] <henrik_> With the UNetbootin-tool.
[13:47] <threequarks> anyone know where the tab icons are gone in Kate 4.x on intrepid?
[13:48] <reanimation> how to use free internet in ubuntu
[13:48] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. I used that tool and it worked fine for me..  I did however use the alternative, and desktop cd image files to make them.. Not the 'server' cd.
[13:48] <ardchoille> Which file dictates which theme will be used as the gdm theme?
[13:48] <Dr_willis> ardchoille,  gdm has a config file that tells that -  i recall.
[13:49] <Dr_willis> ardantus,  /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[13:49] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: aha, /etc/gdm/gdm.conf , thanks for the hint
[13:49] <nathan362> please, will MAIL command send mail to localhost without sendmail package?
[13:49] <Dr_willis> oops  :) ya got it.. heh
[13:49] <reanimation> hacking
[13:49] <reanimation> can anybody tell how to hack wireless connections
[13:49] <henrik_> Dr_willis: hm. I used the server install, guess I'll just have to find a CD-rom and connect it instead
[13:49] <meiweixing> hello,everyone
[13:49] <reanimation> hi
[13:49] <Dr_willis> henrik_,  i recall some others having a similer issue.. but not sure of the details
[13:50] <reanimation> is there any indian guy
[13:50] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: this is odd, /etc/gdm/gdm.conf says  "GtkTheme=Human"  but I'm currently using the happygnome theme
[13:50] <n8tuser> ardchoille-> gdm.conf-custom overrides gdm.conf
[13:51] <henrik_> Dr_willis: oh well, I guess a CD-ROM is the easiest way.
[13:51] <ardchoille> n8tuser: ah, thank you :)
[13:51] <henrik_> I have extras lying around, and it won't take long because the motherboard is still in the box, running without a case. :p
[13:54] <LjL> tuesday_flounder: one thing is saying that you're *running* the 32-bit version of Ubuntu, another thing is saying that you *have* a 64-bit processor. you asked about the latter.
[13:56] <heinrich> Linux is like a wigwam: no gates, no windows and Apache inside.
[13:56] <Kalidarn> would it be safe to assume that ubuntu 8.10 is also LSB compliant https://www.linuxfoundation.org/lsb-cert/productdir.php?by_lsb here it says that Ubuntu 6.06 (dapper) was tested in 2006
[13:56] <Kalidarn> or are only LTS releases LSB compliant
[13:57] <jessid> Hello. What could be the reason for the cpu cooler in a laptop never stops????
[13:58] <ubuntu_> ?
[13:58] <psyjoniz> jessid: heat?
[13:58] <ubuntu_> cold
[13:59] <biblio_orkut1> heat
[13:59] <jessid> psyjoniz: it didnt happen in releases before 8.10
[14:00] <psyjoniz> installed to a usb.  screen won't lock (it dims down like its trying).  any ideas?
[14:00] <jessid> now, when it starts, it never stops even if the cpu is doing almost nothing
[14:00] <psyjoniz> jessid: beyond it being hot, i am out of ideas, sorry
[14:01] <netof_100> does anyone know how to get out of fullscreen in virtual box with xp installed?
[14:01] <jessid> psyjoniz thanks.
[14:01] <ay^> netof_100: right ctrl + f is default
[14:02] <ncfi1013_> does anybody know anything about Tcl?
[14:02] <psyjoniz> jessid: man powernowd?
[14:02] <psyjoniz> that might help
[14:03] <jessid> psyjoniz: i will check
[14:03] <netof_100> ay: thanks, that did it
[14:03] <jessid> psyjoniz thanks man
[14:03] <psyjoniz> np ^^
[14:03] <ay^> netof_100: np :)
[14:04] <netof_100> does anyone know how to open a keygen in ubuntu?
[14:05] <Whitor> Hi, What does the 'never' mean at the justified right side of all my connections in Network Connection Manager ?
[14:05] <psyjoniz> installed 8.10 to a usb stick and locking the screen doesn't work.  it fades like its trying but i'm never prompted for a password to get back in.  yes a password is set.  anyone have any ideas?
[14:06] <Whitor> Network manager doesn't seem to control my network configurations. I can only connect to networks if I edit /etc/network/interfaces
[14:06] <Whitor> I was wondering if this 'never' had anything to do with this ?
[14:07] <psyjoniz> whitor : try changing it to something else and see what happens :)
[14:07] <henrik_> I'm trying to install 8.10 server from an USB stick, but I can't get past the CD-ROM checking. When I pass the setup of the CD-ROM, it works fine until it tries to copy some files from the "CD-ROM" (which is symlinked to the USB drive), but then everything stops.
[14:07] <henrik_> Any suggestions
[14:07] <henrik_> ?
[14:07] <wisey> digitalAngel, i have vista on hda and ubuntu on hdb. I read an article that said i should have grub on the first hard disk, so shall I swap them over.
[14:07] <BitWraith> Does anybody know of a wm/de besides KDE, IceWM, and XPDE that can look just like windows? I am setting up a guest account on my machine with one of them
[14:07] <tuesday_flounder> Ljl: thanks, that's really helpful
[14:07] <mgolisch> Whitor: nm only uses interfaces not configured via the interfaces file
[14:07] <mgolisch> Whitor: atleast thats what i think
[14:08] <wisey> the whole thing has really tried my patience
[14:08] <xiroV> Hello all.. I am new in the incredible linux world.. I am using a Acer Aspire 5520 laptop, and i'm looking for a touchpad driver.. Can anyone guide me? :)
[14:08] <afancy> Hi, why can it not save my setting of sysctl -w kernel.shmmax=283115520 ?
[14:08] <ncfi1013_> does anybody know anything about Tcl?
[14:08] <SOURdiesel> why is sometimes when playing avi's the audio lags and isn't in time with the video
[14:08] <rinovan> BitWraith, gnome
[14:09] <afancy> everytime after the computer start, it was reset.
[14:09] <zeno___> how does one specify the username/pw when mounting a nfs share in fstab?
[14:10] <Whitor> mgolisch, yeah... Thats what I heard too, but when I take everything out of that file , (except the top two lines)  I cant connect to anything
[14:11] <n8tuser> afancy why no put it in  /etc/sysctl.conf ?
[14:11] <wisey> guys, if i install ubuntu on hda and vista on hdb. will grub recognize the windows bootloader. and why will it not work vice-versa
[14:11] <ikonia> wisey: vista likes to install on the primary disk normally
[14:11] <ikonia> wisey: the letters sda/sdb don't actually mean anything
[14:12] <_doug> Hi all ..
[14:12] <quinn> Hi
[14:12] <Whitor> What does the 'never' mean in Network Manager ?
[14:12] <wisey> ikonia, hda hard disk a
[14:12] <_doug> Microsoft penguin supports Life "Without Walls" ..
[14:12] <xiroV> Hello all.. I am new in the incredible linux world.. I am using a Acer Aspire 5520 laptop, and i'm looking for a touchpad driver.. Can anyone guide me? :)
[14:12] <_doug> http://linuxlock.blogspot.com/2008/11/congrats-linux-community-youve-been.html
[14:12] <wisey> ikonia, disk 0
[14:12] <ikonia> wisey: as in the linux reference hda, or your just calling it hda
[14:12] <ikonia> wisey: vista normally likes to be on disk 0
[14:13] <orci> what does uhci_hcd actually do? it is creating high pitch noise on my system. can one do without it?
[14:13] <wisey> ikonia, ok, that is how it is atm
[14:13] <ikonia> wisey there you go then
[14:13] <wisey> ikonia, i can't load vista though
[14:13] <ikonia> what's the problem ?
[14:14] <wisey> ikonia, it won't launch the windows bootloader
[14:14] <wisey> grub won't
[14:14] <ikonia> wisey what's teh error
[14:15] <SOURdiesel> why is it sometimes when playing avi's the audio lags and isn't in time with the video.  is that something with mplayer?
[14:15] <wisey> ikonia, grub literally gives no option to load vista
[14:15] <ikonia> wisey so there is no menu option for vista
[14:15] <wisey> ikonia, no
[14:16] <ikonia> wisey: did you install vista first, then ubuntu /
[14:16] <wisey> yes
[14:16] <ikonia> ok, thats not the end of the world, you just need to add the grub windows boot option to the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[14:16] <neozen> SOURdiesel: your computer ever have trouble playing this video in other programs?
[14:16] <ikonia> wisey: let ms ee if I can find a doc that guides you, there used to be one
[14:17] <neozen> SOURdiesel: could be a problem w/ the A/V sync on the video file itself
[14:17] <SOURdiesel> neozen: haven't tried another player
[14:17] <wisey> ikonia, thanks
[14:17] <neozen> SOURdiesel: how's your cpu usage while playing the video?
[14:17] <SOURdiesel> neozen: it happens sometimes when i burn to DVD too.
[14:18] <SOURdiesel> neozen: cpu usage looks ok.
[14:18] <joaospinto> hello. how can i fix the firefox scrolling problem?
[14:18] <SOURdiesel> neozen: if i pause and play again it corrects itself
[14:18] <neozen> SOURdiesel: at a guess, I'd  blame it on the video
[14:18] <joaospinto> it only happens in some websites, and i think it only started to happen with this update.. (i had already had it before, but not in 8.10)
[14:19] <SOURdiesel> neozen: i figured but thought i'd ask.  thanks.
[14:19] <xiangfu> why i add some program in sessions , it's never run. (/usr/bin/xmodmap /home/xiangfu/.Xmodmap)
[14:19] <ikonia> wisey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=985699&highlight=vista+menu.lst this gives you the idea of what to do, you just have to change the disk device names to match yoru sysetm
[14:20] <fus10nx> I just setup a RAID1 on my Intel RAID controller, and in the Ubuntu install it saw 2 disks...is that normal? Anyhow, I set it all up and it gave a GRUB boot error
[14:20] <ikonia> fus10nx thats fake raid, fakeraid is a terrible technology
[14:21] <ikonia> fus10nx: fake raid has terrible linux support, hence seeing it as two disks
[14:21] <fus10nx> oh ok, how should I do this ten?
[14:21] <fus10nx> I see
[14:21] <ikonia> fus10nx: if your just using linux on those disks I suggest using linux software raid which is excellent
[14:21] <fus10nx> so do it as software RAID?
[14:21] <fus10nx> is there a tutorial to setup just a basic RAID 1 in Ubuntu 8.04?
[14:21] <fus10nx> cus there's no option in the graphical installer to do it
[14:22] <ikonia> fus10nx: you have to use the alternative cd
[14:22] <ikonia> fus10nx: or install to one disk in the normal cd and mirror it later
[14:22] <Great_Gatsby> can someone help me with a wireless problem, im connected to my router, the light is on but when i unplug the wired connection im not getting through
[14:22] <fus10nx> ikonia: ok so i'll disconnect 1 drive, install ubuntu then plug back in 2nd drive and mirror it?
[14:22] <ikonia> fus10nx you don't need to disconnect a drive
[14:22] <fus10nx> if that's the case, is there a solid "dummy" proof tutorial?
[14:22] <ikonia> fus10nx: just install it to one disk
[14:22] <fus10nx> gotcha
[14:23] <fus10nx> so i gotta delete my mirror on the hardware controller
[14:23] <ikonia> fus10nx: I wrote a forum post on how to do it
[14:23] <fus10nx> I see
[14:23] <ikonia> one moment
[14:23] <fus10nx> oh, great. Thanks a lot mate.
[14:23] <ikonia> fus10nx: thats it, make the disks "normal" in your bios
[14:23] <fus10nx> k
[14:24] <zeno___> how does one specify the username/pw when mounting a nfs share?
[14:24] <fus10nx> and im not dual booting or anything
[14:25] <fus10nx> just ubuntu
[14:25] <Great_Gatsby> http://pastebin.com/m25d026fb
[14:25] <Great_Gatsby> can someone help me?
[14:25] <Ad0> hello
[14:25] <Great_Gatsby> the light is green on my wireless router
[14:25] <Great_Gatsby> but i cant connect
[14:25] <natascha> hallo
[14:25] <Ad0> I got a letter from my ISP that said I was doing port scans
[14:25] <PeskyJ> zeno___: how are you mounting it, from the command line or from nautilus?
[14:25] <Ad0> haha
[14:25] <ikonia> fus10nx: bit of an old post but this should guide you
[14:25] <ikonia> fus10nx: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=695671&highlight=raid
[14:26] <Ad0> thought linux was supposed to be secure =/
[14:26] <fus10nx> cheers
[14:26] <ikonia> fus10nx: make sure you read the text though, it's important
[14:26] <Ximal> anyone have a good idea as to some good os or drive encryption for ubuntu ? i'm talking , whipe the drive clean if the wrong password is entered to many times..
[14:26] <ikonia> Ximal that technolgy would have to be scripted as a wrapper
[14:26] <kiru> how can i resize the root partition
[14:26] <fus10nx> what if i dont want to destory anything, just make it fault tolerant
[14:27] <zeno___> PeskyJ: command line i dont know how to via nautilus
[14:27] <ikonia> fus10nx read the thread I've sent you
[14:27] <Slart> Ad0: an os is as secure as the user
[14:27] <fus10nx> I am :)
[14:27] <fus10nx> First we destory one of the disks in the mirror.
[14:27] <PeskyJ> zeno___: what is your end goal? for example to mount a drive temporarily for one session, to always have it mounted whenever you log in,?
[14:27] <fus10nx> just confused me
[14:27] <ikonia> fus10nx what part is confusing you
[14:27] <Ximal> well ikonia : how bout encryption that if you disconnect the drive from it's originating pc it is un-readable
[14:27] <fus10nx> destorying the data but i'll re-read everyhting
[14:27] <ikonia> fus10nx: if you want to do it while I'm here, I'm happy to help
[14:27] <m2k> Ximal, encfs is really nice, not sure if it has the exact features you want
[14:27] <zeno___> PeskyJ: login
[14:28] <ikonia> Ximal: well thats any form of encyption as it won't unencypt without the key
[14:28] <Slart> Ad0: have you tried running rkhunter?
[14:28] <wisey> ikonia, is (hd0,0) the first partition of the first disk?
[14:28] <Doktorn> -
[14:28] <ikonia> wisey correct
[14:28] <Aperculum> how do I check my filesystems in ubuntu?
[14:28] <m2k> Ximal, use a certificate and keep the key on the local system
[14:28] <Ximal> i basically want my firmware in my bios to be the key
[14:28] <ApOgEEk> Ad0, how secure do you mean?
[14:28] <ikonia> Ximal thats not a good idea
[14:28] <Ximal> the mdsum in it that is
[14:28] <m2k> Aperculum, e2fsck for ext2
[14:28] <Ximal> sure it is ...
[14:29] <Aperculum> m2k, I can't find it in menu
[14:29] <Ximal> if i pull a drive off the pc it can't be used otherwise
[14:29] <wisey> ikonia, i think vista is on my second partition. so i would have to type (hd0,1)
[14:29] <ikonia> Ximal: then stop askign how to do it if you think it's the right thing to do
[14:29] <ikonia> wisey you got it
[14:29] <Ximal> i'm just asking if there is a program anyone here might know about is all
[14:29] <wisey> ikonia, hopefully it works
[14:29] <Ad0> ApOgEEk: I mean when I get the option to install LAMP, I assume it is safe
[14:29] <ikonia> !encyption
[14:29] <ikonia> !encryt
[14:29] <Ad0> I mean a default installation
[14:29] <ikonia> !encrypt
[14:29] <ikonia> ughh
[14:29] <Ad0> what is that deal with the SSH keys?
[14:29] <m2k> Aperculum, use the command line, or you can install the Partition editor from Add/remove
[14:29] <Ad0> can I somehow test and fix my system?
[14:29] <ikonia> Ximal: hang on
[14:30] <Ad0> I need to fix my system
[14:30] <Heatryn> I have configured my ubuntu server install that I have a working wlan card in master mode, now I want to make it secure, where can I find a good howto for that?
[14:30] <Aperculum> m2k, partition editor can do filesystem check?
[14:30] <PeskyJ> zeno___: ok well you should read the man page on fstab and mount to understand how they work... then you need to add an entry to /etc/fstab and provide credentials
[14:30] <m2k> Ximal, try GDecrypt
[14:30] <m2k> Aperculum, not sure, will check
[14:31] <zeno___> PeskyJ: i did, but in the man page i didnt seen a option for username and password
[14:31] <zeno___> when i mount without one its ro, even though i passed rw option
[14:31] <m2k> Aperculum, yeah it does
[14:31] <jos_> how i open a iso to ad somthings witch porgie
[14:31] <Pointy> hey i dont know if this is the right place to ask.. but if i have two files, and i want to combine them in a manner so that line 1 of the output = [line 1 file 1] [line 1 file 2].. what command should i be looking up?
[14:32] <Aperculum> m2k, cool, thanks a lot :)
[14:32] <jos_> is ther progam to open iso
[14:32] <fus10nx> ikonia: how can i find out my values for this line: /dev/sdb1 * 1 32 257008+ fd Linux raid autodetect
[14:32] <ApOgEEk> Ad0 the security is depends on how you set them
[14:32] <jos_> andt ad somtings
[14:32] <PeskyJ> zeno___: is it a windows/samba share?
[14:32] <fus10nx> what's the 1, 32 and 257008 mean?
[14:32] <ApOgEEk> Ad0 you have the code... and you can configure it
[14:32] <skorasaurus> jos_, t ad ?
[14:32] <ikonia> fus10nx what values/
[14:32] <skorasaurus> !iso
[14:32] <jos_> ye sthe key bordt is not oke
[14:32] <jos_> eu must bie usa
[14:32] <ikonia> fus10nx: its teh size of the disk in the example
[14:33] <zeno___> PeskyJ: its a nfs share, it has a samba share also though.  if i could just mount the samba share somehow that would b great
[14:33] <zeno___> nfs isnt actually supported
[14:33] <jos_> i wont to ad some line in de iso
[14:33] <m2k> Aperculum, if you want to see the list of disks from the command line: sudo fdisk -l
[14:33] <fus10nx> how can I figure out my disk size in that format?
[14:33] <ikonia> zeno___ where isn't NFS support
[14:33] <wisey> ikonia, what about the map (hd0) (hd1) and (hd1) (hd0) lines?
[14:33] <m2k> zeno___, you can use smbfs
[14:33] <wisey> would they be the same?
[14:33] <skorasaurus> !dutch
[14:33] <Aperculum> m2k, thank you for your help, I think I can manage from here :)
[14:33] <thelonecabbage> has anyone had an
[14:33] <Pointy> anybody?
[14:33] <ikonia> wisey: I believe so
[14:33] <kmg_> hey, what package does madwifi come in?
[14:33] <fus10nx> ikonia: how can I figure out my disk size in that format?
[14:33] <m2k> Aperculum, :)
[14:34] <jos_> dank je
[14:34] <PeskyJ> zeno___: I can't remember exactly how to do it but there's some extra options to pass to mount that pass it on to the mount.smbfs program to give a credentials file
[14:34] <skorasaurus> np.
[14:34] <zeno___> ikonia: http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Hard_Drives_External/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&cs=19&sku=A2029012#Overview, the manual says nfs is beta
[14:34] <thelonecabbage> has anyone had any issues with xubuntu and thinkpad X30 video drivers?
[14:34] <Great_Gatsby> can someone please help me i really need to get my wireless working http://world.guns.ru/civil/civ000-e.htm
[14:34] <ikonia> fus10nx: if you run fdisk on /dev/sda and do print you'll see your current disk layout
[14:34] <fus10nx> it's like a 160 gig disk but i'm guessing my value has to be dead on
[14:34] <fus10nx> gotcha
[14:34] <fus10nx> thanks
[14:34] <kiru> i cannot upgrade to 8.10 because i need 1.8GB of free disk space
[14:34] <kiru> but i have only 1.3GB
[14:34] <Great_Gatsby> i used iwconfig , im connected and the light on my dsl router is on
[14:34] <zeno___> PeskyJ: ok thx
[14:34] <Great_Gatsby> but i cant connect
[14:34] <kmg_> hey, what package is madwifi in?
[14:34] <kiru> does anyone know why i have such a huge root partition?
[14:34] <n8tuser> kiru-> you have a separate /home ?
[14:34] <Heatryn> I have configured my ubuntu server install that I have a working wlan card in master mode, now I want to make it secure, where can I find a good howto for that?
[14:34] <kiru> n8tuser yes
[14:35] <CVirus> How can I manage my startup services on ubuntu ?
[14:35] <m2k> Heatryn, do you mean wireless encryption, or web server security?
[14:35] <Slart> !boot | CVirus
[14:35] <PeskyJ> zeno___: well that was under debian a long while back, not sure if ubuntu uses the same thing as there's been development since then and also I noticed ubuntu uses this fuse/gvfs mounter thing which I don't really understand yet
[14:35] <UnknownUser56> !grub
[14:35] <CVirus> Slart: thanks alot
[14:36] <m2k> zeno___, try pyneighborhood if you want a gui
[14:36] <wisey> ikonia, now it says the BOOTMGR is missing when i try vista
[14:36] <Slart> CVirus: you're welcome
[14:36] <Heatryn> m2k: wireless encryption
[14:36] <Ximal> hey wisey ... i got ur back.. uno momento por favor ???
[14:36] <kmg_> hey, does anybody know what package madwifi drivers are in?
[14:36] <fus10nx> ikonia: this guide shows some NTFS stuff but i'm not doing ANYTHING with windows
[14:37] <wisey> Ximal, cool!
[14:37] <fus10nx> just a ubuntu install and if 1 disk fails the other kicks in
[14:37] <fus10nx> simple
[14:37] <Pointy> kmg_ -- try this page.. it says linux-restricted-modules -- http://madwifi-project.org/wiki/UserDocs/Distro/Ubuntu
[14:38] <Slartibartfast> Hi, I know this is topic, where might be the problem in that I have a website that I cannot access at a certain office but can access from any other place that has internet connections?
[14:38] <Great_Gatsby> http://pastebin.com/m25d026fb  can someone tell me what the problem is?
[14:38] <Pointy> hey i dont know if this is the right place to ask.. but if i have two files, and i want to combine them in a manner so that line 1 of the output = [line 1 file 1] [line 1 file 2].. what command should i be looking up?
[14:38] <Great_Gatsby> the light on my dsl router is on
[14:38] <kmg_> Pointy: thanks I'll check it out
[14:38] <Great_Gatsby> but i cant get on the internet with wireless
[14:38] <Ximal> wisey ... u understand basics in grub setup ? if so go here and download the cd iso
[14:38] <Ximal> http://www.supergrubdisk.org/index.php?pid=5
[14:38] <Slartibartfast> Hi, I know this is out of topic, where might be the problem in that I have a website that I cannot access at a certain office but can access from any other place that has internet connections?
[14:38] <Ximal> then burn it ... and use it to restore one of your past mbr's
[14:38] <Slart> Slartibartfast: nice nick =).. dns issues might be one thing to check.. weird firewall blocking might be another..
[14:38] <jdk1976> WOOHOOO  UBUNTU INTREPID SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED AND RUNNING ON MACBOOK AIR!!!!!
[14:39] <m2k> !wep | Heatryn
[14:39] <Ximal> i use supergrub after installing most operating system wisey ... it's a great help
[14:39] <Pointy> Slartibartfast -- they might have a filter installed. a lot of offices block things like youtube and facebook nowadays
[14:39] <m2k> Heatryn, it depends a bit on what hardware you have, but that is a good guide to check out
[14:39] <PeskyJ> is there such a thing as a drag-n-drop target display application - something that sits there and when you drop stuff to it, it displays the DnD info it is being passed?
[14:39] <luddite> my screen on my laptop (acer aspire 344315) has started to flicker to black on load and randomely whilst using apps. Very annoying
[14:39] <luddite> any fixes?
[14:39] <Crusher_>  http://pastebin.com/m5870400b
[14:39] <Slartibartfast> ok thanks
[14:39] <kiru> why is gparted not available in hardy herron?
[14:40] <ikonia> kiru it sure is
[14:40] <Crusher_> pls help me what can i do?  http://pastebin.com/m5870400b
[14:40] <kiru> i want to resize my boot partition
[14:40] <kiru> ikonia: it is not
[14:40] <ikonia> Ximal: I can't find the darn encyption factoid
[14:40] <ikonia> kiru: it is
[14:40] <manzur> for those who already don't know
[14:40] <Great_Gatsby> my wireless wont work suddenly
[14:40] <bingungaja> anyone know how can add my mp3 cover in idtag ?
[14:40] <manzur> adobe flash 64 bits
[14:40] <ikonia> manzur we know
[14:40] <Ximal> it's ok ikonia
[14:40] <Great_Gatsby> it stopped working four weeks ago and even after i upgraded to hardy it sitll wotn work
[14:40] <manzur> ikonia, that is fine
[14:40] <Ximal> hey wisey ... did you find the site ?
[14:40] <ikonia> Ximal I'll find it
[14:40] <Pointy> bingungaja - do you mean cover art?
[14:40] <manzur> how did you know
[14:40] <manzur> ?
[14:40] <kiru> ikonia: apt tells me that there is no installation candidate
[14:40] <ikonia> manzur does it matter
[14:40] <Crusher_> help me  http://pastebin.com/m5870400b
[14:41] <bingungaja> Pointy: yes
[14:41] <Ximal> kiru what are you looking for ?
[14:41] <digitalspaghetti> Ok - got a weird issue, working on a Ubuntu dapper development server, and I am in a root - but I cannot rm or chown a file that belongs to www-data
[14:41] <manzur> ikonia, yes
[14:41] <zeno___> PeskyJ: ah got it working with smbfs thankd for all help
[14:41] <Ximal> partition editor ?
[14:41] <kiru> Ximal: yes
[14:41] <kiru> a graphical one
[14:41] <Ximal> Kiru go to Add/Remove programs and type in partition
[14:41] <manzur> hey PEOPLE READ THIS
[14:41] <wisey> ximal, ye
[14:41] <ikonia> manzur it really doesn't
[14:41] <ikonia> manzur: stop
[14:41] <Ximal> you will find multiple ones to help you out..
[14:41] <SOURdiesel> manzur: how do i upgrade to flash 64bit
[14:41] <digitalspaghetti> i just get Permission denied or Operation not permitted
[14:41] <manzur> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Finally-Adobe-Releases-64-bit-Flash-Player-for-Linux-98061.shtml
[14:41] <skorasaurus> hi, i'm try to create a split and archive a folder, but i'm having trouble with my commands.
[14:41] <PeskyJ> zeno___: np mate.. you did all the work yourself I just made random pointers/suggestions ;)
[14:42] <kiru> Ximal: nevertheless, is it possible to resize the boot partition=?
[14:42] <Pointy> bingungaja - this page suggests EasyTAG or the EmbedCover plugin for Amarok -- http://lifehacker.com/397258/find-and-embed-album-art-in-your-mp3-collection
[14:42] <zeno___> never woulda figured out without tho XD
[14:42] <skorasaurus> i tar.gz'ed successfully, but i cannot split successfully.
[14:42] <Slart> digitalspaghetti: pastebin the output of ls for the folder.. and perhaps a "file <filename>" for the file in question
[14:42] <bingungaja> Pointy: thx, i'd go to the url first
[14:42] <Ximal> yes
[14:42] <skorasaurus> when i try to extract the split archives that i made, i receive a null error :/
[14:43] <ikonia> !info gparted hardy > kiru
[14:43] <Ximal> yes kiru ... but i wouldn't recommend it ... it's dangerous
[14:43] <Lupo77> ciao
[14:43] <slap_stick> hmm whats the best way of getting udp stats if you say were going to grab them for monitoring?
[14:43] <Lupo77> qualche italiano ?
[14:43] <ikonia> !it > Lupo77
[14:43] <elhoir> hello, i have a problem with brasero in ubuntu... now i cant burn any CD because it displays 0 bytes free before burning :S
[14:43] <bridger> Does anyone know what happened to the pidgin.im website?
[14:43] <slap_stick> i know i can do netstat -su
[14:43] <zeno___> PeskyJ: hmmm wierd though i used the admin account and im getting permission denied when attempting to copy files
[14:43] <elhoir> can anyone help please?
[14:43] <Ad0> ApOgEEk: this doesn't help my situation much though
[14:43] <digitalspaghetti> Slart: http://paste.ifies.org/163
[14:43] <Ad0> I have to find out how they have broken into my sistem
[14:43] <Slart> bridger: works for me
[14:44] <Ad0> system*
[14:44] <Lupo77> !it
[14:44] <Crusher_> >	help me http://pastebin.com/m5870400b
[14:44] <SOURdiesel> do i need to uninstall the 32 bit flash player and then download/install the 64bit flash player?  or do i just install the 64bit flash player?
[14:44] <PeskyJ> zeno___: the admin account in ubuntu is a normal user account, you need to use sudo to do things as root... you probably just need to change the (group most likely) permissions on your mount point
[14:44] <bridger> Slart:  It hasn't worked for me for a while now
[14:44] <zeno___> PeskyJ: the admin account is root on the nas im using
[14:44] <elhoir> hello?
[14:44] <ikonia> SOURdiesel I recommend you carry on with a working 32bit install unless you are %100 certain what your doing
[14:45] <nicku> hello.. does somebody know is it possible to use ad roaming profiles with ubuntu
[14:45] <Slart> digitalspaghetti: and do a "ls -la" of the folder with the file
[14:45] <jrib> SOURdiesel: you should remove the old one first (purge the corresponding package).  However, adobe's release is beta and at least for me crashes my browser on some flash
[14:45] <ikonia> nicku roaming profiles are a windows profile, buuntu uses the home directory to store profiles
[14:45] <SOURdiesel> ikonia: aye-aye, sir.  thank you.
[14:45] <digitalspaghetti> Slart: http://paste.ifies.org/164
[14:45] <Asterix> If I'm running 7.10 is there a way to update from the 8.10 cd?
[14:45] <SOURdiesel> jrib: thanks.
[14:45] <junaid> is there any way to restore the system to the beginning state(the state after the installation of ubuntu )
[14:45] <ikonia> SOURdiesel: honestly - unless your %100 certain your for a world of pain
[14:45] <nicku> ikonia: i know but is it possible to get them working in ubuntu
[14:46] <ikonia> nicku: ubuntu doesn't use them
[14:46] <SOURdiesel> ikonia: not into pain here.
[14:46] <ikonia> nicku: they contain windows desktop data
[14:46] <elhoir> Asterix - yes, i think
[14:46] <elhoir> Asterix - maybe you can update to 8.04 and then to 8.10
[14:46] <Asterix> elhoir: I've put the CD in but it doesn't seem to do anything
[14:46] <ikonia> nicku: ubuntu stores profiles in a different way, you can use a roaming network mounted home dir which works int he same way, but it is not AD roaming profiles
[14:46] <elhoir> asterix - try with donw
[14:46] <adac> Con somebody tell me the command for vncviewer to allow only low colours?
[14:46] <elhoir> donload manager
[14:46] <zeno___> PeskyJ: i have them correct cause if i change password to mount with it gives error
[14:46] <Crusher_> Slart: wot sud i do in this case http://pastebin.com/m5870400b
[14:47] <Slart> digitalspaghetti: hmm.. it looks alright.. have you tried changing the owner of the file? or you get permission denied then too?
[14:47] <elhoir> download manager*
[14:47] <doors98> i cant print on my dumb hp deskjet printer on the network, plsss help
[14:47] <Asterix> elhoir: The reason I want to use the CD is I've got a pretty slow internet connection and doing the network upgrade takes forever.
[14:47] <Ximal> hey asterix ... you'll need to make an apt-on cd or dvd if you can of all your current packages ... or backup the package download folder and backup your home folder..
[14:47] <elhoir> ahm
[14:47] <elhoir> then im afraid i cant help you.. i have never done an upgrade via CDs
[14:47] <Ximal> then do a fresh install on the system and pull your home folder to your new pc along with the package backup if you need to..
[14:47] <junaid> is there any way to restore the system to the beginning state(the state after the installation of ubuntu )
[14:48] <xiroV> Can anyone help me finding a touchpad driver? I
[14:48] <Slart> Crusher_: system, administration, users and groups. Make sure your user is in the vbx group
[14:48] <xiroV> *I'm new to linux..
[14:48] <digitalspaghetti> Slart: never mind, the account is a virtual host machine on the box, i logged into host machine and went into root there
[14:48] <Asterix> ximal: this isn't a new PC...  I'm wanting to upgrade the one I'm using right now.
[14:48] <digitalspaghetti> seemed to delete it
[14:48] <Dorobo18jp> anyone have a good website im trying to learn howt o compile aprogrami just downloaded
[14:48] <neozen> xiroV: what's the make/model?
[14:48] <Slart> digitalspaghetti: oh.. it's gone now?
[14:48] <Slartibartfast> junaid, you question is a bit ambiguos what do you mean by a system is may be a computer with the ubuntu?
[14:48] <jrib> Dorobo18jp: what program?
[14:48] <PeskyJ> zeno___: oh you mean you're getting permission errors on the remote machine?
[14:48] <digitalspaghetti> yea, it's a VMWare slice running ona host machine
[14:49] <junaid> ya
[14:49] <xiroV> neozen, My laptop is a Acer Aspire 5520
[14:49] <digitalspaghetti> deleted only when on the host machine :|
[14:49] <Dorobo18jp> blackjack for the hopelessly luckless
[14:49] <neozen> xiroV: being new is not a long term affliction, we were all new once
[14:49] <Ximal> Asterix you may have trouble upgrading to the new 8.1 ... I downgraded because of issues in the upgrade... are you using a 64 or 32 bit pc ?
[14:49] <jrib> !compile > Dorobo18jp
[14:49] <Ximal> errr ... anyone here ... would it be sudo apt-get install upgrade ?
[14:50] <Asterix> ximal: it's a 32 bit machine...  P4 3Ghz and an agp video card
[14:50] <jrib> Ximal: for what?
[14:50] <Slart> !upgrade | Ximal
[14:50] <Ximal> jrib to initiate an upgrade ..
[14:50] <doors98> pls help me on printing on the network with ubuntu to windows xp?
[14:50] <xiroV> neozen, I know :) But it's good to make people aware, that i'm new, so they can explain to me how it works, in a language i understand..
[14:50] <Dorobo18jp> jrib what is !compile?
[14:50] <doors98> i followed dozens of instructions but to no avail
[14:50] <jrib> Dorobo18jp: makes ubottu give you the information you asked about
[14:51] <SOURdiesel> how long before Intrepid is stable would you guys say, 2 months, 3 months?
[14:51] <neozen> xiroV: ::nods:: is nice to know
[14:51] <jrib> Ximal: depends on what you mean by upgrade.  Do you want to upgrade to a new release or just update your packages on your current release?
[14:51] <ikonia> SOURdiesel it's stable now
[14:51] <Crusher_> Slart: Do i have to manage groups then?
[14:51] <Pointy> so anyone know of an irc channel with linux command line gurus?
[14:51] <willytell_> hello everyone..
[14:51] <Great_Gatsby> Can someone help me http://pastebin.com/m25d026fb
[14:51] <ikonia> Pointy are you using ubuntu ?
[14:51] <Pointy> yes
[14:51] <ikonia> Pointy: what's the problem
[14:51] <SOURdiesel> ikonia: ok. less bugy...
[14:51] <Ximal> asterix wants to upgrade to the new release i believe ..
[14:51] <Pointy> if i have two files, and i want to combine them in a manner so that line 1 of the output = [line 1 file 1] [line 1 file 2].. what command should i be looking up?
[14:51] <Great_Gatsby> im connected to my dsl router the green light is on but i cant get a connection for some reason
[14:51] <Slart> Crusher_: yes.. find the vboxuser group (or whatever it's called)
[14:52] <Slartibartfast> doors98, I also faced the same problem it, printing to windows is still a problem  due to drivers patent issues
[14:52] <Slart> Crusher_: then make sure your user has a checkmark next to it
[14:52] <Asterix> Yes, I'm currently running 7.10 and I've got the 8.10 CD I burned on another computer
[14:52] <Pointy> ikonia: basically line by line merging
[14:52] <neozen> xiroV: can lspci see it?
[14:52] <system_> What does enable_laptop_mode really do? Just enables power saving features?
[14:52] <ikonia> SOURdiesel: depends on what your doing and the user as to how buggy it is, my 8.10 install has one bug, with an easy work around, and another one is %100 stable
[14:52] <ikonia> Pointy: not sure I follow
[14:52] <jrib> Pointy: your_favorite_scripting_language
[14:52] <xiroV> neozen, And i truely hope, that i'll get more knowledge, so maybe I can help newbies, some day :)
[14:53] <Pointy> jrib: *sigh* i figured :) i guess i can do it in bash
[14:53] <Crusher_> Slart: should i restart for the effect to take place.......
[14:53] <Pici> Pointy: #bash may be able to help
[14:53] <Slart> Crusher_: I'm not really sure.. but it might be best
[14:53] <Pointy> Pici: good call
[14:53] <wisey> Ximal, what do i do in here?
[14:53] <xiroV> neozen, uhm.. nope.. i don't see it
[14:53] <Crusher_> Slart:thank u
[14:53] <Ximal> Asterix .. like ikonia says... Certain upgrades are flawless while some pc's work better on downgrades due to unfinalized issues at hand with the prototype in progress...
[14:53] <SOURdiesel> ikonia: i tried upgrading and had issues with my onboard video and power management.  the person who reffered me to ubuntu tried to upgrade and had archive manager issues along with network issues.  that's why i asked.
[14:54] <Slart> Crusher_: you're welcome.. hope it works out for you
[14:54] <junaid> Slartibartfast::i want the beginning state of ubuntu
[14:54] <linny> does anyone here use devede im having trouble creating isos with it after i create my disc i end up with mymovie.mpeg and mymovie.xml instead of the iso ive tried all 3 options eg create iso  create disc srutcture etc but still the same any ideas  ?
[14:54] <doors98>  Slartibartfast: gosh what will i do then? i have a shop and the users are used to window$, i want to slowly learn and teach linux but how the hell can i print on ubuntu then if the customers want to print something
[14:54] <ikonia> SOURdiesel as I said, dependso n the user as much as the OS
[14:54] <apeiron> mmmm asterisk
[14:54] <Asterix> If I've got my home folder on a separate partition can I just do a install of the 8.10 on the / partition?
[14:54] <apeiron> I heart asterisk.
[14:54] <SOURdiesel> ikonia: ok then.
[14:54] <willytell_> I have experienced problems with my webcam since I upgrade to distro intrepid of Ubuntu.
[14:54] <jrib> Pointy: apparently 'pr' can do what you want: http://www.heikkitoivonen.net/blog/2008/07/24/combine-two-files-line-by-line-on-command-line/
[14:54] <zhmg> fdsa
[14:55] <jrib> Pointy: and paste.  Two new things I learned :)
[14:55] <willytell_> someone knows about this problem? It seems to be a problem with libv4l
[14:55] <Slartibartfast> doors98, Just buy an extra machine for printing purposes, It is possible  anyway to print but it always be failing
[14:55] <kiru> i have a root partition of 7.5 GB. Now i wanna update from 7.10 to 8.04 but the updater tells me that i dont have enough free space on the root partion: 1.3GB instead of 1.8GB... what could i do?
[14:55] <nikitis> hey guys, what are the cons of a 64-bit Linux?
[14:55] <sladen> sort -u
[14:55] <ikonia> nikitis none really, some applications (java for example) are 32bit only
[14:55] <jrib> nikitis: no java plugin from sun
[14:55] <TJ-42> kiru: Increase the size of your root partition?  You could look into using something like gparted for this
[14:56] <Ximal> who is it that was having a issue with the usb on vbox?
[14:56] <nikitis> jrib: there's 64-bit flash now
[14:56] <ikonia> Ximal as we discussed earlier - #vbox is your friend
[14:56] <neozen> xiroV: know if the touchpad is something other then your standard wacom?
[14:56] <nikitis> jrib: is there a way to get java to work in 64-bit?
[14:56] <kiru> TJ-42: i am trying but i cannot resize a running root partition, can i?
[14:56] <kiru> TJ-42:  is there a way to get java to work in 64-bit?
[14:56] <ikonia> kiru: do it from the livecd
[14:56] <willytell_> I can not install libv4l? can anyone help me?
[14:56] <neozen> xiroV: they usually just work... did the touchpad work in windows?
[14:56] <Ximal> no.. i'm not having a problem ikonia ... i figured out how to fix the issue.. someone else was having the same issue a moment ago and i wanted to help is all
[14:56] <TJ-42> kiru: use a live cd
[14:56] <jrib> nikitis: yes, you can use open java.  But there isn't one from sun.  Flash hasn't been an issue in
[14:57] <kiru> ikonia: is a livecd version of 7.04 ok?
[14:57] <jrib> nikitis: yes, you can use open java.  But there isn't one from sun.  Flash hasn't been an issue in 64 bit for a long time now
[14:57] <ikonia> kiru: don't see why not
[14:57] <TJ-42> kiru: I know nothing about getting java to run, or 64-bit, so ask someone else that question :-)
[14:57] <kiru> kk
[14:57] <nikitis> jrib: How is openjava?
[14:57] <jrib> nikitis: wfm
[14:57] <kiru> kk
[14:57] <kiru> cya soon fellows
[14:57] <Great_Gatsby> why after updating to hardy is the old broadcom driver not used
[14:57] <linny> does anyone here use devede ? im having trouble creating isos with it. after i create my disc i end up with mymovie.mpeg and mymovie.xml instead of the iso ive tried all 3 options eg create iso,  create disc srutcture etc but still the same any ideas  ?
[14:57] <Great_Gatsby> now its wanting a b43 driver
[14:57] <nikitis> jrib: sorry, i don't understand what wfm is
[14:57] <ikonia> Great_Gatsby: because itls old
[14:57] <Slartibartfast> nikitis, when especially you are a developer developing 64 based softwares and again this is a setback coz not many people have started using 64-bit systems, many are still with the 32-bit system, but I must guarantee you that 64-bit linux systems are very great
[14:57] <jrib> nikitis: works for me
[14:57] <Asterix> Is it possible to use the update manager to go 7.10 -> 8.10 or do I have to upgrade to 8.04 first?
[14:57] <xiroV> neozen, What do you mean about "wacom"?
[14:58] <Great_Gatsby> i still cant connect to my wireless router
[14:58] <bazhang> Asterix, need to do 8.0.4
[14:58] <Great_Gatsby> the f'ing green light is on
[14:58] <Great_Gatsby> but im not getting through
[14:58] <nikitis> jrib: Only java application I use is Azureus
[14:58] <apeiron> I thought the openjdk was the same as the standard JDK except that the code is GPL'd?
[14:58] <Asterix> bazhang: that's kinda lame
[14:58] <ikonia> Great_Gatsby: I don't need to see "f'ing" - if you can't say it wihtout implying swearing - don't say it
[14:58] <raven> my wifi refuses to connect today, it sees the network, but just keeps asking for auth info and not connecting
[14:58] <jrib> nikitis: sun provides java for 64 bit, it just doesn't provide a plugin for your browser
[14:58] <neozen> xiroV: wait.... meant synaptics.... was my understanding touchpads are usually compatible with each other
[14:58] <xiroV> neozen, Well.. The touchpad is working.. but i miss a driver for it... I had to install a driver in windows too, but i could use the touchpad without.. it just makes the movement more smooth.
[14:59] <Slartibartfast> linny, why don't you try the mkisofs on commandline, been using it
[14:59] <neozen> xiroV: hmm
[14:59] <nikitis> jrib: ah so openjava is for browsers then
[14:59] <Great_Gatsby> and i cant use the b43 driver
[14:59] <neozen> xiroV: couldn't tell you
[14:59] <Great_Gatsby> i hit enable it downloaded and installed it but wont let me use it
[14:59] <jrib> nikitis: no open java provides a jre as well if you want
[14:59] <neozen> xiroV: most of the posts I see on the ubuntu forums don't seem to have a problem w/ the touchpad out of the box
[14:59] <linny> Slartibartfast pls explain ?
[14:59] <PeskyJ> Great_Gatsby: how is your router set up? can you see it in network manager? is it open or WEP, WPA, WPA2? are you supplying the keys correctly?
[14:59] <neozen> xiroV: thus my puzzlement
[14:59] <apeiron> heh. Java without a JRE is kinda useless. :)
[14:59] <Great_Gatsby> yes PeskyJ
[14:59] <Great_Gatsby> the light is on
[15:00] <a3Dman> yo HotBreeze
[15:00] <Great_Gatsby> im connected to it
[15:00] <Great_Gatsby> but im not getting a connection
[15:00] <HotBreeze> b43 driver just > <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:00] <Great_Gatsby> http://pastebin.com/m25d026fb
[15:00] <fde> nikitis: it has a plugin that can work with browsers, yes... its openjdk though not openjava - and it is basically the same thing as sun-java6 just more free
[15:00] <HotBreeze> yo a3Dman
[15:00] <SOURdiesel> ikonia: when i try again should i upgrade or clean install 8.10?
[15:00] <fde> nikitis: it is essentially the upstream for sun-java6
[15:00] <ikonia> SOURdiesel: up to you
[15:00] <xiroV> neozen, using a touchpad without a driver, is like using one of the old mouses with a ball inside, with the cencors really dirty.. if you know what i mean..
[15:00] <Tyrath> I'm having trouble printing. Here is my error report http://www.pastebin.ca/1260423. I've already tried to update the printer driver according to the registries, all of which I've uncommented so the necessary updates should be taking place.
[15:00] <nikitis> jrib: is there a way to upgrade your 32-bit machine to 64 without uninstalling off of your configurations or is it just better to?
[15:01] <SOURdiesel> ikonia: i heard clean install worked better.  but then again like you say, user.
[15:01] <SOURdiesel> hehe
[15:01] <raven> my wifi will not work today, has been working fine even just last night, but now keeps not connecting after asking for auth
[15:01] <ikonia> SOURdiesel I'd rather see a clean install, but thats not practical for everyone
[15:01] <jrib> nikitis: there is no way other than reinstalling
[15:01] <neozen> xiroV: OHHH YEAH I gotcha... just never really was a big touchpad guy... tend to prefer the nipple mouse in the middle of my keyboard
[15:01] <PeskyJ> Great_Gatsby: well that's odd... it appears as wlan0 for me, not eth1
[15:01] <ikonia> SOURdiesel: thats only a personal opinion though
[15:01] <SOURdiesel> ikonia: cool.
[15:01] <Great_Gatsby> what PeskyJ ?
[15:01] <xiroV> well.. i have read some articles about touchpad driver in linux, but i couldnt find any exact explanation on how to install it.
[15:01] <fde> SOURdiesel: if you have things backed up, or don't care about losing anything, you can go ahead and clean-install, it'll result in a cleaner system ... keep in mind though that Ubuntu does a lot of work to ensure upgrades are seamless and do not leave cruft around.
[15:01] <Great_Gatsby> thats irrelevant