[21:53] <Some_Person> (before release)
[21:54] <benje2> erf i do it again with lang=C
[21:58] <happyface> ubottu, bug#538292
[21:58] <acamargo> yofel, hey... link for libnpjp2.so worked
[21:58] <acamargo> yofel, nice! homebanking working fine
[21:58] <yofel> acamargo: :)
[21:59] <ZykoticK9> happyface, use a space like, bug #53292
[21:59] <happyface> thanks ZykoticK9
[22:00] <ZykoticK9> happyface, guess ubottu is busy right now :)
[22:00] <yofel> bug 538292
[22:00] <yofel> happyface: now ;)
[22:01] <AtomicSpark> If you guys are using the ambience theme and have noticed a light gray "bar" next to the show desktop icon, unlock the window list, move it right, move it left, relock it. ??? Profit!
[22:01] <AtomicSpark> Much better.
[22:02] <AtomicSpark> yofel: aren't alphas fun? :P
[22:02] <yofel> AtomicSpark: sure are :D
[22:03] <ZykoticK9> does the Apport bug 538097 affect Karmic as well?
[22:03] <Some_Person> Where is the button to swap nautilus's folder buttons with a location bar?
[22:03] <benje2> crimsun: alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=98856c5aa3f77e9485a5695744d7f7d04dbf70a3
[22:03] <yofel> ZykoticK9: it should, as it's the launchpad database that's broken
[22:03] <ZykoticK9> yofel, thanks
[22:03] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: It doesnt exist. Control+L or use the location menu.
[22:03] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: Why did they get rid of this? Who knows. :(
[22:04] <Some_Person> Is there a way to permanently make it a location bar?
[22:04] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: Er go menu, sorry.
[22:04] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: I am not sure.
[22:04] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: I dont see a preference for that.
[22:05] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: Maybe gconf? :(
[22:05] <Volkodav> /etc/init.d/samba restart
[22:05] <Volkodav> bash: /etc/init.d/samba: No such file or directory
[22:05] <Volkodav> ??
[22:05] <yofel> Volkodav: smbd not samba
[22:05] <Volkodav> it is installed I know
[22:05] <AtomicSpark> Volkodav: tab complete!
[22:06] <AtomicSpark> Volkodav: try sudo service samba restart
[22:06] <Volkodav> why the change things around /
[22:06] <Volkodav> ?
[22:06] <yofel> Volkodav: dunno, but yes, the proper way is 'sudo server smbd restart' now
[22:06] <Volkodav> service samba restart
[22:06] <Volkodav> samba: unrecognized service
[22:06] <AtomicSpark> Volkodav: What? It's just a shortcut command introduced a few releases ago. It's not a change.
[22:06] <benje2> Volkodav: shares-admin does samba is installed
[22:07] <yofel> Volkodav: argh, sry 'sudo service smbd restart'
[22:07] <Volkodav>  service smbd restart
[22:07] <Volkodav> smbd start/running, process 3288
[22:07] <AtomicSpark> yay!
[22:07] <Some_Person> AtomicSpark: I found the setting in gconf
[22:08] <yofel> btw, 'dpkg -L samba' shows the name of the config files
[22:08] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: Path por favor.
[22:08] <Some_Person> AtomicSpark: /apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_location_entry
[22:08] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: Nice!
[22:09] <yofel> Volkodav: also, lucid uses upstart and not sysvinit anymore to handle system services in case you didn't know
[22:09] <Volkodav> oh ok that's why - how is it better though ?
[22:09] <AtomicSpark> !upstart > Volkodav
[22:10] <AtomicSpark> No ubottu :(
[22:10] <yofel> Volkodav: event driven model, can start things in parallel
[22:10] <yofel> makes for a faster boot :)
[22:10] <AtomicSpark> Volkodav: Basically that, it's "faster"
[22:10] <Some_Person> This is very unintuative. What was wrong with the button anyway?
[22:10] <yofel> is horrible to configure though -.-
[22:10] <AtomicSpark> ubottu: lag
[22:10] <benje2> erf still no sound with snd_ice1712
[22:11] <yofel> !upstart > Volkodav
[22:11] <AtomicSpark> yofel: Shh. It's loading. Leave it alone. :(
[22:11] <Volkodav> this faster thing makes you learn more commands:-D
[22:11] <AtomicSpark> Basically this http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[22:11] <Volkodav> still can't see the Mac directory
[22:11] <yofel> that's at least the 3rd time today that ubottu timed out o.O
[22:11] <Volkodav> windoze boxen see it ok though
[22:12] <AtomicSpark> Huh. more people use upstart than i remembered.
[22:13] <AtomicSpark> Old people hang onto that runlevel system. They want their server running in single user mode. :(
[22:13] <yofel> AtomicSpark: actually when it comes to a easy to configure server I would still use Lenny because it still has sysvinit
[22:14] <yofel> at least until there's a sane way to configure upstart
[22:14] <yofel> finally...
[22:14] <AtomicSpark> yofel: I love my Ubuntu Servers.
[22:15] <Some_Person> Also, why does ubuntu only come with 5 games?
[22:15] <yofel> AtomicSpark: I said, easy to configure, once you finally unstand how upstart works it's ok
[22:15] <yofel> AtomicSpark: but yeah, I do generally prefer ubuntu to debian :)
[22:16] <yofel> Some_Person: err.. you can find a lot more in the software center if you want them
[22:16] <ZykoticK9> Some_Person, if you're looking for one of the games from the old versions, i think they are still installed, just not in the menu
[22:16] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: A lot of the games weren't maintained, ugly, and had usability issues.
[22:16] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: So they purged them.
[22:16] <AndyGraybeal> is Bacula going to be the preferred or recommended backup software in 10.04?  if not what program will be?
[22:16] <AtomicSpark> AndyGraybeal: I didn't know we had a preferred app :P
[22:17] <Some_Person> AtomicSpark: Can they still be installed?
[22:17] <AndyGraybeal> AtomicSpark: i'm not sure either, but Ubuntu 8.04 actually has documentation for Bacula, as opposed to Amanda or something.
[22:17] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: Yes. Of course.
[22:18] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: I was actually trying to add some commercial apps, but ran into licensing issues.
[22:18] <Some_Person> AtomicSpark: what apps?
[22:18] <lenios> there is no chance in the backup part in lucid
[22:19] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: ID games, other games that have been ported. Either demos or linux "patchers"
[22:19] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: But the packaging team doesnt assume. The must know. Ubuntu likes to stay legit.
[22:20] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: So they wont host a game patcher just because it's on fileplanet, they have to make sure the license says they can.
[22:20] <Some_Person> AtomicSpark: I don't think demos are a good idea
[22:20] <ddecator> there is a whole big process involving licenses and copyright
[22:20] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: We already have shareware, why not? :P
[22:20] <yofel> hey ddecator
[22:21] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: see rott
[22:21] <xTheGoat121x> So, i'm reading a blog that mentions that Pidgin isn't minimizing to indicator-applet as it should, is that correct?
[22:21] <ddecator> hey yofel =)
[22:21] <AtomicSpark> xTheGoat121x: They probably changed the plugin option or it wasn't set correctly in lucid.
[22:21] <AtomicSpark> Empathy is looking pretty nice. I converted, so should you!
[22:22] <xTheGoat121x> AtomicSpark, well the reason I ask is b/c Pidgin is unstable for me in Karmic. Oh, and I can't stand Empathy -- I highly dislike the lack of CTRL-TAB
[22:22] <Some_Person> AtomicSpark: Is rott not fully functional when you install it?
[22:23] <AtomicSpark> xTheGoat121x: i see what you mean. unstable how? are you having account issues?
[22:23] <dupondje> Evening :)
[22:23] <ZykoticK9> xTheGoat121x, Pidgin is minimizing to the Notification Area ok on my system
[22:23] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: It works fine for me. Only lets you get to the third level. It's the same demo that shipped with DN3D years back.
[22:24] <xTheGoat121x> AtomicSpark, to make as much of a long story as short as possible... Not account problems, it seems that occasionally, Pidgin will redirect new conversations to windows that don't exist (I can give a pastebin of a backtrace if you want it), and now, I can't close my buddy list without the program completely closing on me.
[22:25] <Some_Person> I am pleased with the way empathy is improving at least
[22:25] <Ganymede> so in karmic, i had to go through hoops and hurdles to get mozilla firefox and google-chrome beta (unsupported) to embed evince when viewing PDFs, is there any progress towards this on lucid? (i had to install mozplugger from ppa or cvs to work around a bug, then edit the mozplugger config file, and that's relatively complicated considering the research that went into figuring out the exact steps)
[22:25] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: Yes, it still has a ways to go. It's too late in the game sadly, but I have a list of feature improvements. :P
[22:26] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: But at least it's not so darned ugly anymore. :(
[22:27] <Some_Person> AtomicSpark: And / commands work in IRC
[22:27] <AndyGraybeal> AtomicSpark: it seemed when 8.04 was out that everyone was hinting towards using Bacula for backups.  i'm wondering if that is the same now as it was then.
[22:27] <AtomicSpark> AndyGraybeal: I use rsync :P
[22:28] <AndyGraybeal> okay, thank you
[22:29] <AtomicSpark> AndyGraybeal: You could always try bestbot in #ubuntu-bots? I think that's the channel.
[22:30] <AndyGraybeal> wow nice AtomicSpark  :)
[22:30] <AtomicSpark> AndyGraybeal: I use encrypted homes, not much works with that in my expeince. I need something that works with that or only backs up when the user is logged in.
[22:31] <AndyGraybeal> AtomicSpark: interesting.  does it have some type of cataloging thing?
[22:31] <AtomicSpark> AndyGraybeal: I believe it just records the number of times someone types a word. Donno.
[22:32] <Some_Person> The default search engine is now yahoo?
[22:33] <dupondje> Some_Person: yes
[22:33] <Some_Person> why?
[22:33] <AngryParsley> does it matter? the first thing I did was install chrome
[22:33] <Some_Person> You do know that Microsoft bought Yahoo's search backend, right?
[22:33] <yofel> Some_Person: because canonical earned some money by doing that
[22:34] <ZykoticK9> Some_Person, therefore Microsoft is indirectly funding Ubuntu usage
[22:34] <benje2> in empathy you cannot made a irc account in first screen, you have to create one proposed and after you can create it in menu,
[22:34] <ZykoticK9> benje2, that is a know "won't fix" issue
[22:34] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: You pretty much wouldn't be using anything if you boycotted against something partnered with a "bad company".
[22:35] <Andre_Gondim> is there any news about report bug's problem?
[22:35] <ZykoticK9> Andre_Gondim, still not working ;)
[22:35] <AtomicSpark> AndyGraybeal: about launchpad being broken?
[22:35] <benje2> why ZykoticK9 people who want to use only irc cannot ?
[22:35] <yofel> AtomicSpark: nope, the admins well look at it once they get back to work tomorrow
[22:35] <yofel> err Andre_Gondim ^^^
[22:35] <benje2> with empathy they have to get an other account before :/
[22:35] <ZykoticK9> benje2, the upstream Empathy people feel irc if very poorly supported in there program so...
[22:36] <Some_Person> AtomicSpark: true
[22:36] <benje2> ZykoticK9: but this is proposed after stange thingsd
[22:36] <AtomicSpark> ZykoticK9: Honestly? I dont even know why they're trying. IM clients have never been good at IRC.
[22:36] <ZykoticK9> AtomicSpark, +1
[22:36] <AtomicSpark> They should focus on making the IM part better. :P
[22:36] <Some_Person> AtomicSpark: +1
[22:36] <yofel> AtomicSpark: +1
[22:37] <Some_Person> Ubuntu should just come with a decent IRC client
[22:37] <AtomicSpark> I know. I am teh awesome.
[22:37] <Volkodav> Xchat
[22:37] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: The problem is it doesnt. I hear it used to.
[22:37] <kklimonda> are there any known problems with open radeon driver?
[22:37] <AtomicSpark> They'd put in xchat-gnome which is :(
[22:37]  * yofel notes that kubuntu comes with quassel by default
[22:37] <Andre_Gondim> and, any one has a problem with gwibber? I didn't see any update at main windows
[22:37] <Some_Person> AtomicSpark: I've heard that too, but I don't recall it ever coming with one since I started with breezy
[22:38] <kklimonda> like it not being used at all with Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/4M69e5VD
[22:38] <AtomicSpark> kklimonda: HD cards work well. as far as gaming? some games dont play, some do only to a certain quality setting.
[22:38] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: Kubuntu ships with something afaik
[22:38] <Some_Person> AtomicSpark: Yep, Konversation
[22:38] <yofel> AtomicSpark Some_Person, kubuntu includes quassel atm
[22:39] <Some_Person> ok, so they changed. but it still comes with something intended for IRC alone, right?
[22:39] <yofel> Some_Person: yes, quassel is irc only
[22:39] <yofel> Some_Person: pretty nice, but lacks DCC support
[22:39] <Some_Person> Why not include something in ubuntu?
[22:40] <AtomicSpark> The issue probably comes from xchat breaking Gnome HIG, not working with indicator applet. And xchat-gnome is so oudated it's not even funny.
[22:40] <yofel> Some_Person: no idea, propose a few apps on brainstorm maybe
[22:40] <yofel> hm, could be
[22:41]  * yofel doesn't know any GTK apps for IRC besides xchat
[22:41] <AtomicSpark> Learnid would be nice if they made it generic so that you could also have a "support" version, so it asks you for a username and then connects you to #ubuntu, etc.
[22:41] <yofel> we could include chatzilla XD
[22:41] <Volkodav> pidgin
[22:41] <AtomicSpark> Volkodav: No.
[22:42] <Volkodav> ?
[22:42] <Volkodav> it is in xubuntu
[22:42] <yofel> Volkodav: they intentionally dropped pidgin, so I doubt that
[22:42] <kermiac> yofel: are you using quassel on lucid?
[22:42] <yofel> kermiac: yees
[22:42] <yofel> *yes
[22:42] <yofel> kermiac: git head thoug
[22:42] <kermiac> can you highlight text?
[22:42] <Some_Person> Include Xchat, but disable the tray icon?
[22:42] <yofel> *though
[22:42] <Volkodav> dropped in ubuntu to move to xubuntu ?
[22:42] <Volkodav> makes no sense
[22:42] <AtomicSpark> Force the users to use irssi, if they get scared and use a different distor, then we're all for the better. Natrual selection I calls it.
[22:43] <Volkodav> weechat
[22:43] <benje2> does someone know how to change clock source for audiocard ?
[22:43] <yofel> kermiac: I'll install the client and try in a moment
[22:43] <Some_Person> AtomicSpark: No! I don't tend to like text-based IRC clients
[22:43] <Volkodav> is decent
[22:43] <kermiac> ok, ty yofel
[22:43] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: But IRC is text. It makes sense. ):
[22:44] <AtomicSpark> Ooo. Have you noticed Software Center's theme yet?
[22:44] <yofel> kermiac: ok, highlight in what way?
[22:44] <kermiac> yofel: I'm using quassel-client-qt4: 0.6~rc1+git100312-0ubuntu1
[22:44] <kermiac> sorry, i just want to select text to copy & paste
[22:44] <kermiac> can select text
[22:45] <Some_Person> Xchat seems like the most logical one to include. It's popular, has a GUI, and has a good featureset
[22:45] <AtomicSpark> Oh lawd. Flash is back. :(
[22:45] <kermiac> s/can/can't
[22:45]  * kermiac tries to wake up his fingers
[22:45] <AtomicSpark> Lemme install xchat and I'll tell you what's wrong with it.
[22:46] <Some_Person> I'm using Xchat now
[22:46] <yofel> kermiac: o.O If I select text and: click somewhere: no copy in menu / click on the selected text: copy there in menu
[22:46] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: which version do you have installed?
[22:46] <Some_Person> AtomicSpark: Whatever's in the repository
[22:46] <kermiac> yofel: ok, thanks. I can't even select the text :(
[22:47] <Some_Person> Currently, in my lucid install, I have 2.8.6
[22:47] <yofel> ah, that's the same in the git head
[22:47] <yofel> kermiac: o.O, that works here
[22:47]  * kermiac shrugs
[22:47] <AtomicSpark> Some_Person: there is xchat and xchat-gnome, main vs universe
[22:47] <Some_Person> AtomicSpark: Not xchat-gnome
[22:48] <Some_Person> regular xchat
[22:48] <kermiac> only thing I may have done differently is using --no-recommends to keep kde libs of my computer
[22:48] <kermiac> yofel: I might pull in k3b so it will install kde libs & see if that helps
[22:49] <yofel> kermiac: can be, I use KDE so I can't really test that ^^
[22:49] <AtomicSpark> kermiac: not having recommends shouldn't break an application.
[22:49] <yofel> indeed
[22:49] <kermiac> i realise that... but I don't know what else *may* have caused it
[22:51] <kermiac> ah. k3b doesn't pull in the kde libs anymore,lol
[22:52] <Some_Person> AtomicSp*rk: So what's wrong with Xchat?
[22:52] <yofel> Some_Person: they probably won't include something from universe in the default installation
[22:53] <solid_liq> I can't believe there haven't been any updates to apt in > 24 hours
[22:53] <solid_liq> but, it's running nice and stable for me right now, so I'm not complaining :)
[22:53] <yofel> solid_liq: well, we do have beta1freeze in effect and it's weekend :)
[22:53] <AtomicSp0rk> Doesnt seem to support Indicator Applet. Canonical wont include it until a plugin is made (I'm not familiar with it's pluginability) or the functionality is added.
[22:53] <solid_liq> yofel, oh, so that's why!  :D
[22:53] <AtomicSp0rk> Ugh, xchats tab complete is annoying.
[22:53] <Some_Person> AtomicSp*rk: Anything else wrong with it?
[22:53] <solid_liq> yofel, I don't think the weekend part is an issue though.  I had lots of updates come in last weekend
[22:54] <solid_liq> AtomicSp0rk, it's configurable
[22:54] <AtomicSp0rk> Some_Person, It probably doesnt support libnotify either.
[22:54] <AtomicSp0rk> Some_Person, but it not being in main doesnt help. :P
[22:54] <AtomicSp0rk> brb xchat-gnome
[22:55] <yofel> last time I tried xchat-gnome I found it horrible
[22:55] <Some_Person> I hate xchat-gnome
[22:55] <yofel> it just doesn't feel right if you've used xchat before it
[22:55] <Some_Person> I actually tried xchat-gnome first and hated it
[22:56] <solid_liq> yeah, xchat-gnome sucks
[22:56] <AtomicSp0rk> The UI looks better. :\
[22:56] <yofel> oh nice, my ubuntu hardy upgrade test just gave a package error in KVM, hahahaaahaaaaa.... *sigh*
[22:56] <solid_liq> the original xchat is much better
[22:56] <Some_Person> AtomicSp0rk: That's the only good thing about it
[22:57] <solid_liq> AtomicSp0rk, I like "last-spoke order" for tab completion
[22:57] <AtomicSp0rk> Some_Person, also doesnt break the HIG. Still lacks other support though.
[22:57] <solid_liq> irssi is also nice if you find that you don't like xchat
[22:58] <yofel> I actually like irssi, used it in combination with screen+ssh for a while, but now that quassel does pretty much the same for me I only use it if I'm stuck in a tty
[22:58] <AtomicSpark> Closing xchat feels like it freezes :(
[22:58] <solid_liq> yeah, that's how I used to always use it too
[22:59] <solid_liq> I need to get my server up and running again before I do that again
[22:59] <yofel> the bad thing about irssi is that the gui menu entry is only available if you install 'menu-xdg'
[22:59] <AtomicSpark> Menu?
[22:59] <Some_Person> AtomicSpark: installing xchat-indicator adds basic indicator integration
[22:59] <AtomicSpark> Why do you need a menu?
[23:00] <yofel> AtomicSpark: you don't need it, but someone once requested a .desktop entry and the debian folkes closed it with won't fix
[23:00] <solid_liq> heh, I actually made a set of libnotify scripts for irssi to have a remote irssi client running in screen put notifications on my desktop
[23:02] <benje2> it's in asound.state now i can change clocksource and switch to other than spdif
[23:02] <solid_liq> djburns, are you tethered to your phone?
[23:03] <pastyhermit> Can someone explain to me what "Merge" and "Merge All" are referring to?
[23:03] <pastyhermit> its a very confusing terminology, does the file system now have version control?
[23:03] <yofel> pastyhermit: in what context?
[23:03] <ZykoticK9> !crosspost > pastyhermit
[23:03] <pastyhermit> can it merge ascii or binary files now when I copy them?
[23:03] <djburns> Solid: Nope. On an irc app. Why?
[23:03] <pastyhermit> ZykoticK9, sorry went to the wrong channel first
[23:04] <solid_liq> djburns, the 't-mobile.co.uk' part when you joined made me curious
[23:04] <pastyhermit> ubottu, in terms of nautilus
[23:04] <ZykoticK9> pastyhermit, ahhh - sorry all good then
[23:04] <pastyhermit> will it merge the items at a file level? content level?
[23:04] <pastyhermit> Im confused... And I know alot about computers and linux ...
[23:04] <djburns> solid_liq: fe
[23:04] <solid_liq> heh, just went to google...
[23:04] <solid_liq> happy pi day!  lol
[23:05] <pastyhermit> If my computer tells me that it is going to merge some files I think that it will combine both of those files at a content level.
[23:05] <yofel> hm, I don't get either why nautilus would want to merge stuff, execpt if its u1 related
[23:05] <yofel> pastyhermit: merge folders maybe?
[23:05] <pastyhermit> yofel, I think it means "Replace" and "Replace All"
[23:05] <pastyhermit> but I am not sure.
[23:05] <pastyhermit> By the way the new theme is absolutely gorgeous
[23:05] <yofel> well, merging folders isn't the same as replacing them
[23:06] <yofel> pastyhermit: oh, you like buttons on the left?
[23:06] <pastyhermit> though I changed the background to something very similar that has a bit more color variations...
[23:06] <pastyhermit> yofel, yes the nautilus buttons
[23:06] <yofel> pastyhermit: I meant the window buttons, max/min/close
[23:09] <pastyhermit> no, the "Merge" and "Merge All" do not appear where the max/min/close buttons appear
[23:09] <pastyhermit> yofel, I changed the background as in the wallpaper to something that I found on deviant art.
[23:12] <IdleOne> I absolutely love how the backgrounds fade in when you select a different one :)
[23:13] <NullEntity> Has anyone gotten Java applets working in Lucid?
[23:13] <ZykoticK9> NullEntity, it's currently a bug see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sun-java6/+bug/532174
[23:14] <NullEntity> Huh, I didn't think it was a Lucid bug.
[23:14] <yofel> NullEntity: yep, as I said on the bug, you need to fix a  symlink for sun-java6 and firefox
[23:14] <yofel> NullEntity: or use the icedtea6-plugin from openjdk
[23:20] <solid_liq> I love the group and tab plugin for compiz
[23:20] <solid_liq> I just played with it for the first time
[23:24] <ddbt> hello, does anyone know whether the new ubuntu UI look gets an update/bugfix before the actual release?
[23:25] <yofel> ddbt: bugfix? what's broken?
[23:26] <ddbt> well, nothing is really broken, but there are still some things left to polish
[23:26] <ddbt> like the "squared" rounded corners.. the "background" of the 3 buttons, whenever there is only one.. (the close button)
[23:27] <ddbt> etc.
[23:27] <ddbt> little things
[23:27] <pastyhermit> yofel, any idea?
[23:27] <yofel> pastyhermit: nope, sry, haven't used nautilus in a while
[23:28] <ZykoticK9> ddbt, you can see currently working on bugs regarding light at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/light-themes
[23:28] <pastyhermit> yofel, :D
[23:28] <pastyhermit> let me guess... fluxbox for you :D
[23:28] <yofel> pastyhermit: nope, KDE :P
[23:29] <ddbt> well thanks zykotick9!
[23:30] <ddbt> but are these 'bugs' still relevant for the upcoming release.. since there has been a ui freeze
[23:30] <ddbt> ?
[23:31] <ZykoticK9> pastyhermit, how are you getting this merge message?  if i use nautilus to copy to a folder with the same files - i just get the regular "overright" message
[23:31] <yofel> ddbt: I hope they are, they duped the light theme on use one day before ui freeze... a bit short to test something
[23:31] <pastyhermit> ZykoticK9, when I copy things from one folder to another in ubuntu
[23:32] <ZykoticK9> pastyhermit, i'm not getting that behaviour?
[23:32] <pastyhermit> yofel, sorry no light theme for 10.4?
[23:32] <NullEntity> How do I sudo-open a file browser?
[23:33] <pastyhermit> NullEntity, sudo -c "nautilus --no-desktop"
[23:33] <yofel> pastyhermit: no, I mean they pused the theme into the repos one day before ui freeze
[23:33]  * yofel is getting tired
[23:33] <yofel> *pushed
[23:34] <pastyhermit> oh...
[23:34]  * BUGabundo pulls yofel back
[23:34] <pastyhermit> so it will be there
[23:34] <ZykoticK9> NullEntity, "gksu nautilus" works for me (this is NOT recommended mind you, except in emergencies)
[23:34] <pastyhermit> its really nice...
[23:34]  * yofel thanks BUGabundo :D
[23:34] <pastyhermit> now I wont change the default theme everytime I sit infront of an ubuntu install :D
[23:34] <BUGabundo> yofel: don't you go leaving us, like bruce89 did
[23:35] <BUGabundo> cause he , like many of us, disagree with upstream changes, and not caring to what we say
[23:35] <NullEntity> Well I just need to create that sym link. I just suck with the Terminal
[23:35] <yofel> BUGabundo: I do disagree with gnome, that's why I use KDE now, but I don't disagree enough with ubuntu to leave you guys ;)
[23:36] <yofel> NullEntity: it should be: 'sudo ln -s /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so'
[23:38] <NullEntity> And then I need to remove that code chunk?
[23:38] <yofel> NullEntity: wait a moment
[23:38] <yofel> need to check something
[23:39] <yofel> NullEntity: ok, try to run that command and see if it works
[23:40] <NullEntity> Link seems to be broken
[23:40] <sqwertle> I seem to be having troubles with nautilus and was wondering if anyone couild help me install a particular font?
[23:41] <richthegeek> hey guys, another day another issue
[23:41] <yofel> NullEntity: oh, wait, do you have a /etc/alternatives/xulrunner-1.9-javaplugin.so?
[23:41] <NullEntity> yeah, just found it
[23:41] <richthegeek> default scroll action on the volume-indicator applet has changed from +1 to +5... how do i revert this?
[23:41] <yofel> NullEntity: sorry, I use a different fix here so I made a mistake there
[23:42] <NullEntity> Do I need to link to that instead?
[23:44] <yofel> NullEntity: yes
[23:45] <yofel> NullEntity: I mean, if that file links to a libnpjp2.so then yes
[23:48] <NullEntity> Thanks a lot!
[23:48] <NullEntity> It's working now!
[23:49] <yofel> NullEntity: you're welcom
[23:49] <yofel> e
[23:49] <NullEntity> Now I can get my bro off our new gaming desktop >.<
[23:50] <blindndangerous> anyone here?
[23:50] <NullEntity> ofc.
[23:51] <blindndangerous> I'm trying to get ubuntu 10.04 running on a virtual machine, but can't figure out how to get orca to start for the installer.
[23:53] <blindndangerous> When I start up vmware player, and start, I see a bunch of lines go real quick across my screan, then something white or gray go from the bottom to top, then the screen turns blue, and I see diaolgue boxes start poping up.
[23:53] <blindndangerous> dialogue popping*
[23:59] <ZykoticK9> blindndangerous, perhaps if there is a Vmware channel you could ask there (I'm unaware of one, but never looked for one either).  FYI VirtualBox can install Lucid.


[13:41] <__nemo__> .
[18:08] <ibouvousaime> Hello I have a question for you : Whats the package that provide support for ext3 file system ?
[18:17] <pencilandpaper> ibouvousaime: hi,  how are you doing man?
[18:17] <pencilandpaper> you are trying to partition your hdd to ext3 ibouvousaime ?
[18:17] <pencilandpaper> you are using Puppy Linux right?
[18:17] <ibouvousaime> Im trying to resize it
[18:17] <ibouvousaime> I mean
[18:18] <ibouvousaime> I want ot resize my main partition of my hdd
[18:18] <ibouvousaime> but the problem is that
[18:18] <holstein> i use a parted magic live iso, or any live iso, and resize
[18:18] <ibouvousaime> the USB drive is too small for gparted lol
[18:18] <ibouvousaime> so I have to use puppy
[18:19] <ibouvousaime> holstein, cool I think I will use that
[18:19] <ibouvousaime> pencilandpaper, lol hi xD Im not running it at the moment
[18:19] <ibouvousaime> but its on my 128 mb USB drive lol
[18:19] <holstein> i would have backups, before doing any partition sizing..
[18:19] <ObrienDave> the Xubuntu live DVD will allow you to adjust partition sizes using gparted
[18:20] <holstein> there are quite a few diagnostic live iso's that will be small enough, and let you resize as well.. the UBCD, for example
[18:20] <ibouvousaime> I really should but I dont have no places to save something :(
[18:20] <ibouvousaime> ohh
[18:20] <holstein> as long as you are ok with losing that data, you are fine.. you *will* lose it when that drive fails, and it will
[18:20] <pencilandpaper> ok, well then thats easy ibouvousaime ..just go live with Puppy and use gparted. its installed by default man.
[18:20] <ibouvousaime> I didnt know that one
[18:21] <ibouvousaime> puppt doesnt support ext3
[18:21] <ibouvousaime> puppy*
[18:21] <ibouvousaime> so I can resize :(
[18:21] <holstein> ibouvousaime: ive never had any issues with puppy and ext3
[18:21] <ibouvousaime> its on older version
[18:21] <ibouvousaime> so I can put it on the hard drive
[18:21] <holstein> anyways, you can use the tool you wish.. the installer for xubuntu, for example, would be ideal, if thats what your plan is..
[18:21] <ibouvousaime> puppy is almost 200 mb nowadays
[18:21] <ibouvousaime> mine is the 4.2 version
[18:21] <pencilandpaper> yes it does ibouvousaime , you just have to install that ext3 package for parted to recognize ext3 filesystems.
[18:22] <ibouvousaime> my wifi isnt working there too :(
[18:22] <pencilandpaper> precise puppy right ibouvousaime ?
[18:22] <pencilandpaper> well let me ask you this please ibouvousaime are you using hexchat or xchat by chance right now?
[18:22] <ibouvousaime> Im using hexchat
[18:23] <ibouvousaime> yes its precise I think pencilandpaper
[18:23] <pencilandpaper> nice, do me a favor ibouvousaime , and right in hexchat enter this command: /exec -o inxi -Nn
[18:23] <pencilandpaper> ok cool ibouvousaime , thanks.
[18:23] <ibouvousaime> Network:   Card-1 Broadcom BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter driver bcma-pci-bridge
[18:23] <ibouvousaime>            IF wlp2s0 state up mac <filter>
[18:23] <ibouvousaime>            Card-2 Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5761 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe driver tg3
[18:23] <ibouvousaime>            IF enp10s0 state down mac <filter>
[18:24] <ibouvousaime> youre a genius pencilandpaper
[18:25] <pencilandpaper> nice, now the wifi driver is bcma-pci-bridge ibouvousaime , now lets do this..what DE are you using?
[18:25] <pencilandpaper> lol not at all ibouvousaime , it would blow your mind at what i DONT know. lol
[18:25] <ibouvousaime> on puppy ?
[18:25] <pencilandpaper> no, on the distro that you are using right now.
[18:25] <ibouvousaime> xfce lol
[18:26] <pencilandpaper> nice, now in terminal enter: sudo thunar
[18:26] <holstein> id just choose one problem, and address it.. for me, the first would be a proper backup, before losing anything important. then, i would just take the shortest path to resizing.. the installer would  do that, and i have to boot the installer anyway
[18:26] <pencilandpaper> and once you have thunar opened as root ibouvousaime let me know please.
[18:26] <ibouvousaime> okay
[18:27] <pencilandpaper> thanks.
[18:27] <ibouvousaime> its done
[18:27] <ibouvousaime> xD
[18:27] <ibouvousaime> I have it :D
[18:28] <ObrienDave> \o/
[18:28] <pencilandpaper> ok, now navigate to /lib/firmware ibouvousaime , and that is where you will see your wifi driver at..you want to get the driver and place it on your stick...then you have it to place in /lib/firmware on Puppy and your wifi will work.
[18:29] <ibouvousaime> okayyy
[18:29] <pencilandpaper> you are going to have to create a save file and reboot after installing that wifi driver for wifi to work..and you may not have room on your stick to do that..so can i ask you something please..are you adjusting partitions on the same computer as you are on now?
[18:31] <ibouvousaime> yes I want to reduce this partitions's size actaully my ultimate goal is to install windows alonside this linux distro I plan to put the windows install files in another small partition  and install windows in a 3rd partition and take back my files from linux
[18:31] <ibouvousaime> I will tell you my play so far lol
[18:31] <pencilandpaper> ok..:)
[18:31] <holstein> i would install the windows first, and shrink the partitions with the linux installer, since, those tools will just be there for that purpose
[18:32] <holstein> if you even need to shrink anything, at that point..
[18:32] <ibouvousaime> If had a large USB stick I would have installed windows
[18:32] <ibouvousaime> holstein,
[18:32] <ibouvousaime> so about the plan
[18:32] <holstein> !mini
[18:32] <holstein> dont need a "large" stick to install linux..
[18:32] <holstein> but, again, do what you like..
[18:32] <ibouvousaime> - I plan to resize this manjaro linux partition
[18:33] <pencilandpaper> do you just want to shrink your linux partition and then create a partition for windows to be installed on so that its dealt with ibouvousaime ?
[18:33] <ibouvousaime> holstein, I mean install windows
[18:33] <ibouvousaime> yes
[18:34] <ibouvousaime> I plan to install windows from the hard drive itself I think I can make grub detect and boot from the windows installer
[18:34] <pencilandpaper> ok ibouvousaime you have gparted installed on manjaro right? if so, will do you me a favor and take a screenshot of your partitions and share them with me via http://uploadpie.com please?
[18:34] <ibouvousaime> yes I have it
[18:34] <ibouvousaime> on manjaro lol
[18:34] <holstein> not sure that you are 'allowed' to do that, with a windows installer, but, im sure you'll get what you need, eventually.. good luck
[18:34] <ibouvousaime> okay
[18:34] <pencilandpaper> well once we get your partitions decent i can tell you how to install windows afterwards ibouvousaime .
[18:34] <ibouvousaime> okay
[18:34] <ibouvousaime> thank you
[18:35] <pencilandpaper> yw.
[18:35] <pencilandpaper> this is why they suggested that you ask me about that in the other channel ibouvousaime .
[18:36] <pencilandpaper> System:    Host: pencilandpaper Kernel: 4.0.5-vivid-32-pae i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.2.2
[18:36] <pencilandpaper>            Distro: Vividpup 6.5 vivid
[18:36] <pencilandpaper> :)
[18:37] <ibouvousaime> other channel ? pencilandpaper  Sorry I dont understand what you mean there
[18:37] <ibouvousaime> ohh
[18:37] <ibouvousaime> no still not sorry
[18:37] <ibouvousaime> understanding
[18:38] <pencilandpaper> cool..and no worries ibouvousaime .
[18:38] <ibouvousaime> pencilandpaper, http://uploadpie.com/2r3Il
[18:39] <ibouvousaime> here is the screenshot
[18:40] <pencilandpaper> cool thanks, now what windows version do you want to install if you dont mind me asking?
[18:41] <ibouvousaime> windows 7
[18:41] <ibouvousaime> (even if I hate it lol but I have no choice)
[18:41] <pencilandpaper> ok thanks. now lets see what the recommended disk space is for windows 7 is real quick.
[18:42] <pencilandpaper> i understand man, it is what it is you know what i mean? :)
[18:42] <ibouvousaime> 16 GB available hard disk space (32-bit) or 20 GB (64-bit)
[18:43] <ibouvousaime> haha man I wish more software made linux versions lol
[18:43] <ibouvousaime> I have the 64 bit iso right now
[18:43] <ibouvousaime> I googled it pencilandpaper
[18:44] <ibouvousaime> I mean the hard drive space requiered lol
[18:44] <ibouvousaime> xD
[18:44] <pencilandpaper> right but once you get to installing updates as well as software ibouvousaime disk space with windows goes REALLY fast so this is what i would do..give it atleast 60gb.
[18:45] <ibouvousaime> ohh yea
[18:45] <pencilandpaper> yep..for real..so shrink your partition down and leave atleast 60gb after it. then once you do that..you are going to format that 60gb unallocated space as ntfs (windows filesystem).
[18:46] <pencilandpaper> once you do that ibouvousaime ..come back around bro and i will assist you in installing windows 7 if you want..ok?
[18:46] <ibouvousaime> yes sure :D
[18:46] <ibouvousaime> pencilandpaper,
[18:47] <ibouvousaime> I will be back
[18:47] <pencilandpaper> ok cool ibouvousaime , and good luck man.
[18:47] <pencilandpaper> also your partition is ext4 not ext3. you dont need to format anything in ext3..windows is ntfs.
[18:49] <ibouvousaime> there is something stange too my USB isnt appearing on the thunar that is running as root
[18:51] <pencilandpaper> maybe close thunar and reopen it as root ibouvousaime . see if that helps?
[18:51] <ibouvousaime> okay
[18:58] <pencilandpaper> did that work for you ibouvousaime ?
[18:58] <ibouvousaime> not yet :(
[18:59] <pencilandpaper> if so remember to get the driver on manjaro from /lib/firmware and place it on your stick so that you can put it in /lib/firmware once you get on Puppy.
[18:59] <ibouvousaime> Im trying to figure out the wifi driver's name too
[18:59] <ibouvousaime> its b43legacy I think
[18:59] <pencilandpaper> i think that its bcma-pci-bridge ibouvousaime .
[18:59] <ibouvousaime> okay
[19:00] <pencilandpaper> see if you can do this, press ctrl+shift+t and open a new tab in your terminal and once you do that..enter" sudo mount /dev/sdb1 //mnt
[19:01] <pencilandpaper> that should mount your stick ibouvousaime , and then in thunar (file manager) navigate to /mnt and the contents of the usb stick will be there..so you can place the driver in there.
[19:01] <ibouvousaime> okay
[19:01] <ibouvousaime> thank you I will do that
[19:01] <pencilandpaper> then in the same tab that you mounted the stick enter: sudo umount /dev/sdb1 and that will unmount your usb stick for you.
[19:01] <pencilandpaper> yw man.
[19:03] <ibouvousaime> its emppty :(
[19:03] <ibouvousaime> I did the command again I got mount: /dev/sdb1 is already mounted or /mnt busy
[19:03] <ibouvousaime>        /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /run/media/ibouvousaime/CDROM
[19:03] <ibouvousaime>        /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /mnt
[19:06] <ibouvousaime> here is the content of the firmware folder (just directories) I dont find bcma-pci-bridge yet http://paste.debian.net/plain/245772
[19:06] <ibouvousaime> pencilandpaper, Its just folders
[19:08] <ibouvousaime> all files on firmware pencilandpaper http://paste.debian.net/plain/245773
[19:09] <pencilandpaper> ok ibouvousaime , thanks.
[19:09] <pencilandpaper> you want the b43, b43legacy, and bcrm folders ibouvousaime . those are the broadcom drivers. :)
[19:09] <em> Assuming i put HDDs in these which of the following is the better machine (purpose: to play around with linux and programming) Choice A: http://newyork.craigslist.org/que/syd/5032705193.html   Choice B: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T400-14-2-53GHz-Intel-Core-2-Duo-T9400-3GB-RAM-160GB-HDD-/351430937428
[19:10] <pencilandpaper> as far as the stick when you go to /mnt do you see the contents of your stick there?
[19:14] <ibouvousaime> no :(
[19:14] <ibouvousaime> I dont know why
[19:15] <ibouvousaime> they dont appeat i MEAN
[19:15] <ibouvousaime> LOL
[19:15] <ibouvousaime> appear
[19:16] <ibouvousaime> okay
[19:16] <ibouvousaime> I will take those folders pencilandpaper
[19:16] <ibouvousaime> :)
[19:16] <ibouvousaime> OHhhh
[19:16] <ibouvousaime> I know why
[19:16] <ibouvousaime> OMG
[19:16] <ibouvousaime> lool
[19:16] <ibouvousaime> its my fault pencilandpaper
[19:16] <ibouvousaime> haha I formated before in the mean time
[19:16] <ibouvousaime> I forgot
[19:16] <ibouvousaime> lol
[19:17] <pencilandpaper> ok cool ibouvousaime , if anything just move them to your Downloads folder and then once on Puppy you can mount your manjaro install and get the folders from your Downloads folder and move them over.
[19:17] <pencilandpaper> o ok ibouvousaime ..well thats ok, no worries. i am going for a short walk though ibouvousaime , and will be back in about a hour. i will talk to you then ok?
[19:18] <ibouvousaime> okay
[19:18] <ibouvousaime> I will be there lol:D
[19:18] <ibouvousaime> see ya
[19:18] <ibouvousaime> pencilandpaper,
[19:18] <pencilandpaper> ok cool, see you in a few man. :)
[19:18] <ibouvousaime> :)
[19:26] <em> Is it difficult to create a xubuntu live usb?
[19:30] <em> How do i make a live Xubuntu usb?
[19:33] <ibouvousaime> its easy
[19:33] <ibouvousaime> try using dd
[19:33] <ibouvousaime> what distro are you using em
[19:33] <ibouvousaime> ?
[19:34] <ibouvousaime> dd if=nameofthefile.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4k should work
[19:34] <ibouvousaime> but wait
[19:35] <ibouvousaime> MAKE SURE you know the same the the USB stick I mean like sdb or sdc
[19:35] <ibouvousaime> you can check that be entering lsblk on a terminal
[19:43] <xubuntu29d> hey all
[19:43] <em> how do you create a live xubuntu usb?
[19:43] <holstein> !install | em
[19:44] <xubuntu29d> gays i have probleme language arabic in xubuntu 15.04
[19:44] <em> holstein: that works as well just replacing the ubuntu iso with the xubuntu one?
[19:44] <holstein> em: i simply use unetbootin, though, the iso's can simply be dd copied over to a USB stick. you can refer to the media creation for any ubuntu guide you find
[19:44] <xubuntu29d> can you help me !!
[19:44] <holstein> em: xubuntu is ubuntu
[19:44] <em> im going to download the xubuntu iso tho
[19:45] <holstein> em: sure, you can dd copy the xubuntu iso to the stick, or use a GUI tool, such as unetbootin, to easily create a bootable USB stick with the xubuntu iso
[20:09] <em> holstein: not much. im planning to use it to learn python and other programming languages. Should that matter then if it is 32 bit or not?
[20:09] <holstein> would i run xubuntu on that hardware? sure.. but, no os really makes that hardware any faster or better.. xfce is a nice balance, i find, with light and feature-ful
[20:09] <holstein> em: try it, and see... nothing about "learning python" implies to me you require 64bit
[20:09] <em> well i have to buy that laptop if im going to use it so im trying to see what i can find out first
[20:09] <ibouvousaime> DSL failed to boot
[20:09] <holstein> sure.. and, both 32 and 64bit versions are freely available.. you'll just have to try them and see what meets your need
[20:09] <ibouvousaime> the error I got is failed to load COM32 file menu.c32
[20:17] <em> holstein: you are pretty sure i can just dd the xubuntu.iso directly to my flash drive and that is all it takes to be a bootable live xubuntu ?
[20:18] <holstein> em: no.. its actually documented that it is a certainty, and i have dd copied it, myself.. so, im not "pretty sure" at all.. im positive
[20:18] <holstein> em: if the machine boots USB, you can boot that USB created
[20:19] <nopf> em: if i'm not mistaken the T9400 is the better processor. also the machine has more ram. in both cases, 32bit is the correct choice for now
[20:19] <holstein> i wouldnt be steering away from 32bit on that hardware
[20:24] <ibouvousaime> DSL doesnt have gparted guys
[20:24] <holstein> ibouvousaime: there is a small, parted magic, iso.. thats what i would use
[20:25] <Unit193> Xubuntu live contains it.
[20:26] <ibouvousaime> its not free I think holstein
[20:26] <holstein> ibouvousaime: check and see.. im not suggesting you purchase anything
[20:26] <ibouvousaime> I checked
[20:26] <ibouvousaime> its paid
[20:26] <ibouvousaime> xD
[20:27] <holstein> ibouvousaime: there are *many* tools that are small enough for you to use, with a partition resizing tool in them
[20:27] <Unit193> ibouvousaime: http://gparted.org/download.php no?
[20:27] <ibouvousaime> I searchin at the modment
[20:28] <holstein> https://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ , that i suggested earlier.. or, ^
[20:28] <ibouvousaime> it has to be smaller than 120mb Unit193
[20:28] <holstein> also, the mini iso has a partitioner..
[20:28] <Unit193> Slitaz have it?
[20:28] <ibouvousaime> I havent teste slitaz yet
[20:28] <ibouvousaime> tested
[20:29] <ibouvousaime> holstein, I will try your ultimate boot cd
[20:29] <holstein> ibouvousaime: its not mine.. its just a tool that may fit your needs
[20:29] <ibouvousaime> wait its 598
[20:29] <ibouvousaime> 598 mb
[20:30] <ibouvousaime> ohh okay I xDD
[20:30] <ibouvousaime> thanks btw holstein
[20:30] <holstein> the mini iso's are small.. and the partitioner there may have the functionality you seek..
[20:33] <ibouvousaime> okay
[20:33] <ibouvousaime> I see they have parted magic
[20:36] <ibouvousaime> the 2013 version is free
[20:37] <ibouvousaime> If you guys are interestedd you might wanna keep this link the older free 2013 versions are here http://mrsebe.bplaced.net/blog/wordpress/?p=80
[20:38] <ibouvousaime> oh nno 361 mb
[20:44] <pencilandpaper> back..sorry that i took so long.
[20:45] <pencilandpaper> ibouvousaime: are you still around man?
[20:46] <ibouvousaime> yeah
[20:46] <ibouvousaime> I ve been trying DSL and doing some research lol
[20:47] <ibouvousaime> DSL didnt have gparted and I couldnt configure the internet
[20:47] <pencilandpaper> yeah DSL is weird when it comes to the internet. i dont know if you could find gparted for it or not anymore. maybe somewhere.
[20:48] <pencilandpaper> how big is the stick again ibouvousaime ?
[20:48] <ibouvousaime> 122 mb
[20:48] <ibouvousaime> I wonder if they accept deb files or something
[20:49] <ibouvousaime> Id they do I might install gparted maybe
[20:49] <ibouvousaime> if* they do
[20:49] <pencilandpaper> i thought that you said 180 something. :(
[20:49] <pencilandpaper> ok, let me try and find another puppy around that size.
[20:51] <ibouvousaime> okay
[20:53] <pencilandpaper> yeah, its hard to find one that small anymore. is that the only stick that you have?
[20:54] <ibouvousaime> unless I wait tomorrow lool
[20:54] <ibouvousaime> but I have work to do
[20:55] <ibouvousaime> I cant wait
[20:55] <ibouvousaime> I have an idea
[20:55] <ibouvousaime> find the deb file of gparted
[20:55] <ibouvousaime> and install it on damn small linux
[20:56] <ibouvousaime> and hope it supports ext3
[20:56] <holstein> and, that DSL supports installing that .deb, which, AFAIK, it doesnt
[20:56] <holstein> the mini iso doesnt fit your needs? the installer/partitioner there?
[20:57] <pencilandpaper> gparted i think is pretty big..as far as all of the .deb's that you would need to have a working gparted. i would go back to puppy 4.2.1 ibouvousaime .
[20:57] <pencilandpaper> and why do you need ext3 support ibouvousaime ?
[20:57] <holstein> yup.. or a "puplet" that has what you need
[20:57] <ibouvousaime> ohh okay
[20:58] <holstein> to resize an arch install
[20:58] <ibouvousaime> yea
[20:58] <pencilandpaper> yeah but the install is on a ext4 partition..i am staring at it right now.
[20:59] <holstein> and, the installer for the mini iso should offer to resize it, and, at like 20 mb's..
[20:59] <pencilandpaper> you know what i mean though ibouvousaime , you just need the ext4 support.
[21:01] <ibouvousaime> yeah
[21:01] <ibouvousaime> holstein I got a bit confure which mini iso are you talking about ?
[21:03] <pencilandpaper> so you should be good to go with puppy since it should have the ext4 support as well as the ntfs support in gparted by default ibouvousaime .
[21:05] <ibouvousaime> a sec I think I can find a larger stick in my bed room its almost dead lol but it should work
[21:05] <ibouvousaime> it had the lastest version of puppy
[21:05] <ibouvousaime> I have to hold it tightly until the boot in finished
[21:05] <ibouvousaime> haha
[21:05] <ibouvousaime> its half dead
[21:05] <ibouvousaime> xD
[21:06] <ibouvousaime> OMG this will be hard to find
[21:07] <pencilandpaper> if you can pull that off you are golden.
[21:07] <pencilandpaper> if you have a shoe string you can tie it around it real right for that pressure too.
[21:09] <ibouvousaime> lol brb
[21:11] <pencilandpaper> take your time man.
[21:13] <ibouvousaime> I feel like Im never gonna find that lol I have no idea where Ive put it
[21:22] <pencilandpaper> back.
[21:23] <ibouvousaime> well I give up on the search
[21:23] <pencilandpaper> you couldnt find it man?
[21:24] <ibouvousaime> the other usb drive
[21:24] <ibouvousaime> no
[21:24] <ibouvousaime> I coudlnt
[21:24] <ibouvousaime> this one looks interesting http://www.partitionwizard.com/partition-wizard-bootable-cd.html
[21:26] <pencilandpaper> yeah that doesnt look bad..but i prefer using gparted. its easier for me to understand..and i am so used to reading drives as /dev/sdX instead of C: i am good with gparted. lol
[21:27] <pencilandpaper> ibouvousaime, do you have a blank cd/dvd?
[21:29] <ibouvousaime> humm let me search a bit
[21:30] <ibouvousaime> I found a cd
[21:30] <qkzoo1978> I had to reinstall Android Studio, and now I have a "dead" link in the menu, that doesn't show up in the "Menu Editor" how do I get rid of it?
[21:31] <pencilandpaper> is it blank and how big is it ibouvousaime ?
[21:31] <ibouvousaime> 700 mb its not black I think
[21:31] <ibouvousaime> blank*
[21:32] <pencilandpaper> is it a cd-rw and is the stuff on it important?
[21:33] <Giraffe> Hi, does anyone have any idea why the shortcut for muting my microphone (FN+F4) on my Dell Latitude E5250 is working under Ubuntu but doesn't work under Xubuntu?
[21:34] <ibouvousaime> ohh noo I didnt notice
[21:34] <ibouvousaime> its not blank
[21:34] <ibouvousaime> a found a lot more but none if them is blank
[21:35] <ibouvousaime> I will keep searching
[21:35] <ibouvousaime> lol
[21:35] <ibouvousaime> for the cd-rw s lol
[21:35] <ibouvousaime> xD
[21:36] <pencilandpaper> lol ok.
[21:37] <qkzoo1978> I have a dead link in my Applications menu, i.e., there is no .desktop link for it in /usr/share/Applications - and it doesn't show up under the built in Menu Editor.  How do I get rid of this dead link?
[21:40] <Giraffe> I know that there were several bugs filed for Ubuntu regarding the Mic mute shortcut not working and under Ubuntu this was fixed but that isn't the case for Xubuntu
[21:41] <ibouvousaime> qkzoo1978, how long have that dead link been there  I mean how long since it died did it stay there ?
[21:41] <qkzoo1978> A couple of weeks ago
[21:42] <qkzoo1978> I had uninstalled Android Studio, and then installed a fresh copy.  So now I have two AS shortcuts in the Applications menu, but one is dead.
[21:44] <pencilandpaper> in the built-in menu editor is there a button that says delete qkzoo1978 ?
[21:44] <qkzoo1978> It doesn't show up under the built in menu editor or alacarte
[21:48] <Giraffe> Does anyone have any idea why the shortcut for muting my microphone (FN+F4) on my Dell Latitude E5250 is working under Ubuntu but doesn't work under Xubuntu?
[21:49] <pencilandpaper> what DE are you using if you dont mind me asking qkzoo1978 ?
[21:49] <pencilandpaper> oops, xfce. lol sorry..
[21:49] <qkzoo1978> Xubuntu lol
[21:50] <qkzoo1978> it's 14.04 though :)
[21:50] <pencilandpaper> qkzoo1978, go to ~/.config/xfce4/menus and delete it from there and you should be good to go.
[21:50] <pencilandpaper> ok cool, yeah i use a distro that is built on 14.04 for that lts support too.
[21:50] <pencilandpaper> i am also using one that is based on 15.04 too though.
[21:51] <qkzoo1978> Ya, I don't like a lot of change, I will eventually upgrade to 15.04.
[21:51] <pencilandpaper> i hear you..well even if you wait until 16.04 for the next lts its almost right around the corner. 15.10 is already under development you know what i mean?
[21:52] <qkzoo1978> Yep :)
[21:52] <pencilandpaper> unless the next lts is farther away than that..forget now. i lost track of it all.
[21:53] <qkzoo1978> There is no ~/.config/xfce4/menus
[21:56] <pencilandpaper> applications qkzoo1978 , i am trying to remember right off of the head..i know that its in there though.
[21:57] <pencilandpaper> if you check the folders in ~/.config you will find it for sure though.
[21:58] <drc> pencilandpaper: Isn't it ~/.local/share/applications?
[21:59] <qkzoo1978> Ok, under ~/.config/menus I found xfce-applications.menu, but the bad Android Studio link isn't in there oO
[21:59] <pencilandpaper> drc, it could be in there too..but i know that you can also get rid of a menu entry in ~/.config as well..especially a wine menu entry.
[21:59] <pencilandpaper> ok qkzoo1978 , then drc may be right..and thanks drc . :)
[22:00] <drc> pencilandpaper: Ok, from qkzoo1978 last post I now understand you were looking for afce-applications.menu.
[22:01] <drc> but I'd still look in ~/.local/share/applications
[22:01] <pencilandpaper> no, he is actually looking for a bad Android Studio link drc ..and wants to remove it so that his menu doesnt have that in it after uninstalling it.
[22:02] <qkzoo1978> That's it!
[22:02] <pencilandpaper> check /usr/share/menu as well qkzoo1978 .
[22:02] <qkzoo1978> Bad link was under .local/share/applications
[22:02] <pencilandpaper> nice.
[22:04] <Giraffe> Is there anyone that could help me out?
[22:04] <qkzoo1978> Thanks yo, that bad link was driving me bonkers.
[22:04] <Giraffe> The Microphone Mute button of my laptop's keyboard (FN+F4) is not working under Xubuntu
[22:05] <Giraffe> It's working fine under Ubuntu though, where can i file a bug specificly for Xubuntu?
[22:05] <pencilandpaper> i know right, i try and get stuff like that cleaned up to qkzoo1978 ..for real.
[22:06] <qkzoo1978> Yep, I'm a clean freak, even on my pc
[22:06] <qkzoo1978> @Giraffe: http://askubuntu.com/questions/90513/how-do-i-change-my-keyboard-shortcuts-in-xubuntu check that out?
[22:08] <qkzoo1978> nm there's no audio shortcuts in there.
[22:08] <Giraffe> thanks qkzoo1978 but there's no audo shortcuts in there
[22:08] <Giraffe> was already looking there
[22:09] <Giraffe> Thing is Ubuntu had the same problem but it was fixed for Ubuntu : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1381856
[22:10] <pencilandpaper> ditto qkzoo1978 .
[22:11] <Giraffe> The led of the Mic-mute key is working fine however, when i mute the mic via software the led turns on like it shoud
[22:12] <Giraffe> I think it's really a matter of Xubuntu not recognizing FN+F4, is there a place where i can file a Xubunt-specific bug, regarding this problem?
[22:20] <Giraffe> Could i file a bugreport at bugs.launchpad.net or do they only handle Ubuntu (not Xubuntu?)
[22:28] <Giraffe> Don't tell me there isn't a way to report bugs regarding Xubuntu....
[22:38] <ibouvousaime> pencilandpaper, I tried the minitools partition, everything seemed to be working well expept the fact that I wasnt able to move the slider to resize the partition
[22:40] <pencilandpaper> bummer.
[22:41] <ibouvousaime> bummer ?
[22:43] <ibouvousaime> OH XD
[22:43] <ibouvousaime> looool
[22:46] <pencilandpaper> :)
[22:47] <ibouvousaime> old gparted version are small xDD
[22:47] <ibouvousaime> coool
[22:50] <pencilandpaper> :)
[22:54] <ibouvousaime> I will get a 2011 version lool
[22:54] <ibouvousaime> xD
[22:55] <pencilandpaper> you really arent feeling puppy i see huh?


[13:13] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[13:15] <davmor2> morning charlie-tca
[13:15] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: natty is missing all icons today
[13:15] <charlie-tca> switching icon sets gives me the desktop icons but no panel icons
[13:18] <charlie-tca> Good morning, davmor2
[13:53] <charlie-tca> hm, for some reason, I have to boot to recovery mode, run "fix broken packages", to get updates to install. Then I can log in, restart, and have things working
[15:04] <mr_pouit> charlie-tca: sorry, I'm focusing on uploading xfce 4.7.x to natty for the moment (and for the next weeks). I'll look at bugs after :P
[15:04] <charlie-tca> yup. I won't file bugs until we get it uploaded then?
[15:04] <mr_pouit> also, the iso might be broken for a few days after the upload of xfce4-panel, no need to report bugs for that (I'll announce on xubuntu-devel when it's not safe to upgrade, and when the transition is finished)
[15:05] <charlie-tca> Thanks for the warning. I will wait for you to say when.


[19:48] <technocf> Hello, it is still possible to submit to the free culture showcase for 17.04 and how?
[19:51] <nacc> " Submissions are now open through 5 March 2017. "
[19:51] <nacc> https://www.flickr.com/groups/ubuntu-fcs-1704/
[19:51] <technocf> Dang.  Just missed it.  :(
[19:52] <technocf> When will the one for 17.10 open?