[02:03] <xnox> please remove qtsvg-opensource-src 5.5.1-2 from xenial-proposed, as all of 5.5 landing is being prepared by Mirv in a silo, and this 5.5 qtsvg component that got auto-synced is in the way for bootstrap =)
[02:03] <xnox> "got auto-synced _and_ is in the"
[05:22] <Mirv> xnox: no need really
[05:23] <Mirv> xnox: I've all of them built as 'build1' already
[05:23] <Mirv> and there are 10+ autosynced modules
[05:58] <darkxst> can someone unleash bug 1237904 from wily-proposed?
[05:58] <darkxst> it was verification-done about 3 weeks ago
[06:00] <darkxst> infinity, RAOF ^
[06:04] <RAOF> darkxst: You are in luck! I now have a laptop with actual access to ubuntu-archive-tools!
[06:08] <darkxst> RAOF, great! :)
[06:10] <RAOF> C'mon, deja-dup. You can do it! Find the backup!
[09:14] <Laney> yofel: I fixed it, in future please debug starting from lp:~developer-membership-board/+junk/packageset
[09:33] <xnox> Mirv, ok, when will it land? or could you please share the silo ppa URL? /me is having test suite failures in qtbase
[09:33] <Mirv> xnox: today at current pace. https://launchpad.net/~ci-train-ppa-service/+archive/ubuntu/landing-012/+packages
[09:33] <Mirv> I'm just fixing some KDE arm64 rebuilds
[09:34] <xnox> cool
[09:36] <Mirv> xnox: note that qtbase unit tests are some of the most difficult ones to run on our builders (compared to Qt upstream's own test machinery), and we currently run the much modified set of unit tests only on amd64+armhf+i386. I can add s390x to the skipped architectures or you can try to get them working, but please don't upload a new qtbase today.
[09:36] <Mirv> and obviously upstream doesn't run them at all on many of our archs
[09:46] <cjwatson> Mirv: have you considered making it a positive list of architectures where they're run rather than a list of skipped architectures?
[09:47] <cjwatson> the latter approach is usually only suitable when it's particular known properties of the skipped architectures at issue
[09:48] <Mirv> cjwatson: yes, I thought I had already done that but I just noticed I didn't
[09:48] <Mirv> it was probably some other package
[09:50] <Mirv> I'll do that to the next upload
[12:06] <yofel> Laney: thanks a lot! (for both the fix an the repo :) )
[12:39] <Mirv> sorry I've invaded the arm64 builders by kicking builds of a lot of KDE packages to get them through to release pocket
[14:48] <Mirv> Qt 5.5.1 has been published to xenial-proposed. After a few hours there might be something migration related popping up, feel free to fix or I'll look at them tomorrow.
[16:37] <rtg> Can I get the Xenial 4.3 kernel released from the NEW queue ?
[16:48] <rbasak> Can an AA please review monitoring-plugins languishing in Xenial NEW? It's a merge of a Debian source package rename.
[19:47] <xnox> Mirv, interesting, for me it was mostly passing and i was trying to narrow it down to #if !defined(Q_T_S390X) here and there.
[19:47] <xnox> Mirv, or like chaning things to XFAIL etc.
[19:48] <xnox> Mirv, most things do pass. I wonder which things are skipped, i assumed we had a 100% pass rate on amd64, I shall compare with other arches now.
[20:28] <Mirv> xnox: the enable-tests.patch is what maintains the exception. it'd be doable for all archs, but quite a lot of test cases change between Qt versions. that's why it's easier to handle those for the archs I have direct access to.
[20:28] <xnox> Mirv, cool. i'll check if that's the same things on s390x or not =)
[20:29]  * Mirv -> sleep


[00:08] <damnsmalllinux23> how do i become op?
[00:10] <h00k> damnsmalllinux23: I don't believe there are any active calls for new Operators, but more information can be found on the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/IrcTeam/OperatorRequirements
[00:12] <damnsmalllinux23> to h00k: can you give me op? if you right click on my name and go to mode then give half or give op. and why does everyone have yellow dots?
[00:13] <h00k> damnsmalllinux23: no, it doesn't work that way. And the dots colors depend on the client you use.
[00:13] <damnsmalllinux23> like...
[00:14] <h00k> like I use irssi, so I don't see yellow dots by people.
[00:14] <damnsmalllinux23> hey are you are ubuntu?
[00:14] <h00k> damnsmalllinux23: perhaps you should check the documentation on whatever client you're using
[00:14] <h00k> damnsmalllinux23: yes?
[00:14] <persia> The yellow dots probably represent voice, rather than op.
[00:15] <damnsmalllinux23> well can you do the share desktop thing to my computer?
[00:17] <h00k> damnsmalllinux23: For what purpose? In theory, I could. I don't want to, however.
[00:18] <damnsmalllinux23> can you please? i need you to help me with something so that you can see my cp as i do it.
[00:19] <h00k> damnsmalllinux23: no, this isn't a support related room. Do you have any other questions about the OP process? If not, please feel free to /part the channel
[00:19]  * h00k shrugs
[00:20] <gpc> h00k: see !canibeanop
[00:20] <h00k> gpc: *that* is what it is. I always forget that one
[00:20] <Pici> Feel free to add a better alias.
[00:21] <gpc> Pici: would be hard to find better less "ugly" alias to that
[00:22] <h00k> perhaps !opme or something
[00:22] <h00k> !opprocess
[00:22] <Pici> !helphelpimbeingoppressed
[00:22] <gpc> haha
[00:22]  * persia hands Pici some repression as a side dish
[00:22] <h00k> yeah...I considered that after :)
[00:25] <gpc> !canihaveops
[00:25] <h00k> an African Swallow?
[00:26] <gpc> !canihaveops is <alias> canibeanop
[00:27] <gpc> !canihaveop is <alias> canibeanop
[00:27] <gpc> fine don't
[00:27]  * gpc :P and :(
[00:27] <h00k> d'aw
[00:27]  * h00k pats gpc on the back
[00:28] <gpc> h00k: can you right click on my name and give me op or half op :P
[00:28]  * persia points out that not all clients have such "right-click" functionality.
[00:30] <gpc> persia: then such clients are not full clients :)
[00:31] <h00k> when I right click, I get terminal options :) (irssi)
[00:31] <gpc> like building a car without seat belts
[00:31]  * persia stoutly defends irssi
[00:31] <gpc> !canihaveop is <alias> canibeanop
[00:31] <persia> gpc, Note that not all mice have right buttons (and not all pointing devices have buttons at all)
[00:31] <gpc> why do I not get a response?
[00:32] <gpc> persia: a one button mouse is like a pool cue without chalk
[00:32]  * persia has a zero-button pointing device
[00:32]  * persia has a different 37-button pointing device
[00:33]  * persia thinks button count is a matter of personal preference
[00:33] <gpc> 37 buttons?
[00:33] <persia> Well, that one is a bit extreme, maybe :)
[01:21] <Pici> ubottu: hug!
[01:21] <Pici> :(
[01:22] <gpc> !hug
[01:22] <gpc> hmm, shame :/
[01:25] <persia> Didn't that get removed because of excessive use in some context?
[01:26] <gpc> probably
[02:05] <tsimpson> gpc: you won't get multiple "I'll remember that, ..." responses because of the (somewhat limited and hackish) flood protection in Encyclopedia
[06:01] <bazhang> bantracker seems to have multiple entries for a guest account (removed for using an irc script in #ubuntu)
[06:13] <rww> indeed. The list of removals and the ban accurately reflect reality, afaict.
[06:13]  * rww expected ubottu PM, munches cookie instead
[07:28] <maco> @mark Smrad #ubuntu f-bomb and n-word after being told off for first use of f-bomb
[07:28] <rww> @help mark
[07:29] <maco> grrr
[07:29] <maco> @mark #ubuntu Smrad f-bomb and n-word after being told off for first use of f-bomb
[07:29] <rww> if you make that mistake in PM, it errors out instead ;)
[07:30]  * rww knows, because he does it /constantly/
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> You can avoid these problems by not marking things!
[07:33] <rww> . @mark #ubuntu-ops tonyyarusso encouraging newbie ops to be bad ops
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> hehe
 go in the ubuntu channel and tell someone how to set root pass and they will kick/ban you
[11:10] <bazhang> quelle surprise
[11:12] <jpds> Wunderbar.
[11:13] <bazhang> so using other channels to encourage users to troll #ubuntu  ( ##linux in this case)
[11:14] <jpds> Haters gonna hate.
[11:14] <bazhang> hehe
[11:32] <q_a_z_steve> hey, just doing research for my freenode group, what code is ubottu based on?
[11:33] <ikonia> supybot
[11:33] <jpds> q_a_z_steve: Supybot.
[11:34] <jpds> q_a_z_steve: launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[11:37] <q_a_z_steve> strange, that link talks about their being more than one, and yet only talks about on on the page. Am I missing "page 2"?
[11:38] <jpds> The code is under 'Code'.
[11:41] <q_a_z_steve> jpds looking more for explanation of features like the bulleted list for ubottu, especially for meetingology, not needed for -br or fr...
[11:48] <q_a_z_steve> anything to add? jpds ?
[12:21] <bazhang> JackyAlcine, hi
[12:22] <JackyAlcine> Good afternoon (UTC).
[12:22] <bazhang> JackyAlcine, thanks for joining.
[12:22] <JackyAlcine> No problem.
[12:22] <bazhang> JackyAlcine, enabling illegal acts is not something we allow in any ubuntu namespace
[12:22] <JackyAlcine> But we permit Aircrack-NG to be shipped in Ubuntu's repos.
[12:23] <bazhang> just as if someone wants to crack wifi, use an unsupported derivative, or what not, asking for help does not override the guidelines, and the various channel policies and rules
[12:23] <JackyAlcine> Hm.
[12:24] <bazhang> indeed, and if you visit #aircrack-ng (also on freenode) and ask "how can I crack my neighbor's wifi" you'll get booted
[12:24] <bazhang> its more than just Ubuntu namespace policy, but freenode wide
[12:24] <bazhang> piracy, cracking etc
[12:25] <JackyAlcine> Hm, so in that case, if you're going to something "illicit", better off searching on Google?
[12:26] <bazhang> indeed. or join a network that has no sane policies, unlike freenode.
[12:26] <JackyAlcine> Alright.
[12:26] <JackyAlcine> Have a good time, then.
[12:26] <bazhang> thanks
[12:26] <elky> hah
[12:27] <knome> erm
[12:27] <bazhang> bit surprised as he's in some team or another
[12:27] <knome> what is actually the reason aircrack-ng is allowed to be in the repos?
[12:27] <elky> it's  valid diagnostic tool
[12:27] <bazhang> pen testing?
[12:28] <elky> yes
[12:28] <elky> the only diff between white-hat and black-hat is the intent.
[12:28] <knome> their website clearly states that it's a cracking tool before they mention it's a diagnostic tool
[12:29] <elky> So their marketing department needs to be fired. It is still a diagnostic tool.
[12:30] <knome> mm-hmm. just wondering what the info in the repository says.. if it says "a cracking tool", then i understand the point JA made
[12:30] <knome> mmh
[12:30] <bazhang> !info aircrack-ng
[12:31] <knome> yeah.
[12:31] <knome> maybe somebody needs to reconsider
[12:31] <bazhang> ?
[12:31] <bazhang> somebody being whom?
[12:31] <elky> would you believe to evaluate cracking vulnerabilities, you need to actually try crack stuff?
[12:32] <knome> bazhang, a motu? :)
[12:32] <elky> any network device has the same capacity
[12:32] <knome> elky, i understand, but it's still a bit awkward
[12:32] <elky> not really
[12:32] <bazhang> knome, perhaps you missed the whole context of this, vis a vis who was discussing this
[12:33] <bazhang> knome, he specifically said he was doing "phishy" "illegal acts" "I'd rather not say" "PM me for details"
[12:33] <bazhang> pcfreak30 in this instance
[12:34] <bazhang> nothing to reconsider. he was asking for help with illegal acts.
[12:34] <knome> bazhang, yeah, i missed that conversation :) - but anyway, was just wondering how the repositories so clearly states it's a cracking tool, and not for example, "diagnostic tool"
[12:35] <knome> i don't disagree about the decision
[12:35] <bazhang> knome, then you missed the reason for his response "but we have potentially can be illegally used tools in the repos, therefore we should offer assistance when people ask"
[12:36] <bazhang> for help with their self-confessed "illegal , phishy acts"
[12:36] <knome> bazhang, i got that ("But we permit Aircrack-NG to be shipped in Ubuntu's repos.")
[12:36] <knome> i don't think that's a completely solid argument
[12:36] <knome> but why does the package info say it's a cracking tool?
[12:37] <bazhang> he wanted help with something illegal. we dont support it.
[12:37] <knome> i understand and agree.
[12:37] <bazhang> so nothing to reconsider
[12:37] <knome> no, not about how he was handled.
[12:38] <knome> oh well, forget it...
[12:39] <knome> maybe we should edit the pkg info for x-chat to "this is a tool by which you can troll and annoy people to get eventually banned from the ubuntu channel"
[12:47] <jussi> q_a_z_steve: anything else you need?
[12:48] <jussi> q_a_z_steve: for furether information about the bots, please join #ubuntu-bots
[13:54] <tartarfoofas> please accdept
[13:55] <bazhang> tartarfoofas, pardon?
[13:55] <tartarfoofas> did you get the DCC
[13:55] <tartarfoofas> magnetron sputtering system?
[13:56] <bazhang> tartarfoofas, this is not the correct channel for that; did you need some Ubuntu help?
[13:57] <tartarfoofas> I will open ports and try again. thank you for your cooperation .
[13:57] <Pici> Its a forward.
[13:57] <bazhang> he's in #ubuntu
[13:58] <Pici> oh, perhaps its not.
[15:33] <rww> Pici, bazhang: it's a Hoober, more like.
[15:35] <Pici> rww: Same person?
[15:36] <bazhang> rww, sounds right
[15:36] <gpc> looks like his crazy style
[15:36] <rww> 2010-10-13.log:00:08:52 -!- Hoober<EMAIL_ADDRESS>has joined #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:37] <rww> anyways, work time
[15:57] <maco> @mark #kubuntu BajK_ language on quit message
[15:57] <Pici> maco: We usually do banforwards to here in those cases.
[15:58] <Tm_T> ...which would neet the comment too
[15:58] <Tm_T> but ye, banforward
[16:00] <maco> ok i think i just set one
[16:01] <gpc> done 36894
[16:02] <maco> huh?
[16:02] <maco> it was 36893...
[16:03] <gpc> oh I didn't see you set it on nick
[16:03] <gpc> i'll remove mine
[16:03] <maco> i set it so that if they didnt have teh _ at the end of the nick this time, itd still apply
[16:04] <gpc> ahh I didn't notice because you set it in #k :)
[20:57] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: seems to have turned it off. If it happens again ban it.
[21:38] <Jordan_U> Why do people get insulted when I ask them to use full sentences, proper capitalization, and proper punctuation?
[21:39] <jpds> Jordan_U: Laziness.
[21:39] <IdleOne> Not everybody is a native English speaker, rederecting them to the channel of their native tongue would be better imo
[21:39] <jpds> I prefer my answer.
[21:39] <IdleOne> you would :P
[21:39] <rww> why so idle
[21:40] <jpds> rww: Idle Relay Chat, yeaaaaaaaaaaaah.
[21:40] <IdleOne> znc went offline
[21:40] <rww> switch to irssi it has 102% uptime
[21:40] <Jordan_U> IdleOne: I understand non-native speakers getting punctuation and sentence structure wrong, but some people obviously aren't even trying.
[21:40] <IdleOne> uptime with my znc is very good actually but my host needed to reboot
[21:41] <IdleOne> Jordan_U: I saw the question the asked and I also had a hard time understanding them.
[21:41] <IdleOne> they*
[21:43] <rww> to answer your question, #ubuntu is currently full of silly people. that's why.
[21:43] <jpds> s/#ubuntu/the world/
[21:44] <gpc> this one is growing on my
[21:44] <gpc> s/my/me
[22:51] <Some_Person> Can anyone please delete a paste I made on paste.ubuntu.com?
[22:52] <Some_Person> I accidentally exposed important personal data
[23:03] <elky> we don't run it. canonical does.
[23:08] <Some_Person> So how can I get it removed ASAP
[23:08] <Some_Person> I exposed my password in a paste
[23:08] <Jordan_U> Some_Person: Change your password, wherever you use it.
[23:09] <Some_Person> I've used that password *everywhere* since 2006
[23:09] <Jordan_U> Even if you manage to get the post removed you should *still* do that.
[23:09] <Some_Person> granted, it's encoded in the post, but still easily decodable
[23:11] <Jordan_U> Some_Person: If you are using this shared password for things which are important, like bank logins or your own remotely accessible machine, then change those (and don't ever use a shared password for such things in the future).
[23:12] <Some_Person> I'm using this password for both things you just mentioned
[23:12] <Jordan_U> I'm sorry I can't be of more help with getting the post removed, but you really need to consider the password already compromised if you use it for anything important.
[23:12] <Some_Person> Yes, I'm changing it now
[23:12] <Jordan_U> Some_Person: That is a terrible idea, you should not do that in any circumstance.
[23:12] <Some_Person> starting with the bank account


[04:54] <coz_> hey guys
[13:17] <zniavre> good afternoon
[13:18] <zniavre> im trying ccs style for gtk3 i got a strange line just between menubar and toolbar can you help me please with it ?
[14:48] <marcushaslam> hihi
[14:48] <marcushaslam> I have a phone call at 3.30 can we make it earlier or later?
[19:34] <mainerror> hello
[20:02] <doctormo> hello
[20:21] <mainerror> just realized that ivanka isn't around so I'll probably wait till tomorrow with my question
[20:27] <thorwil> what horrible deed, now nobody here will be able to sleep, not knowing what the question may be!!
[20:28] <coz_> ah oh,, what did I miss?
[20:28]  * coz_ looks at scrollback
[20:29] <coz_> gah no scrollback
[20:29] <mainerror> evil isn't it? :D
[20:30] <coz_> for sure
[20:30] <mainerror> the question is about the animal logos on the t-shirts
[20:30] <coz_> mainerror,  ubuntu t-shirts?
[20:30] <mainerror> yes
[20:30] <mainerror> is there a special reason that they are not available in the design toolkit?
[20:31] <coz_> mm let me take alook online
[20:32] <mainerror> I could butt kick myself because I forgot to ask that at the UDS ...
[20:32] <coz_> mainerror,  its not on the store yet?
[20:32] <coz_> or is it the narwhol tail t-shirt?
[20:33] <mainerror> oh no I mean why the logos are not available as SVG
[20:33] <coz_> mainerror,  oh!! double oh!  most definitly should be in svg
[20:36] <coz_> mainerror,  how was UDS?  I just watched shuttleworth's  opening comments
[20:37] <mainerror> it was awesome to get to know the people behind Ubuntu :)
[20:38] <mainerror> in fact it was so awesome that I've decided to get to the next UDS too
[20:39] <coz_> mainerror,  cool,, out of curiosity,, how much was the trip overall?  I mean cost
[20:40] <mainerror> approximately 350€ from Monday till Friday for two persons, my dad wanted to attend it too :)
[20:40] <coz_> mainerror,  excellent,, your dad?  that's cool :)  he enjoyed it as well ...yes?
[20:41] <mainerror> yup :)
[20:41] <coz_> very cool
[20:42] <mainerror> http://photos.pixoulphotography.com/Events/UDS-Oneiric/i-5HhCFBS/0/XL/20110510-184228-UDSOneiric-XL.jpg
[20:42] <mainerror> theres Jorge and me :)
[20:44] <coz_> very cool
[20:44] <coz_> mainerror,  the developers had orange ribbons?
[20:45] <mainerror> you mean those name badges?
[20:45] <coz_> yeah
[20:45] <mainerror> no, everyone got them :)
[20:46] <coz_> mainerror,  but I noticed the ribbon around the necks,,
[20:47] <coz_> mainerror,  also how was Budapest ?  :)
[20:47] <mainerror> oh the lanyard you mean, nah that was pretty random, one got a Linaro lanyard (the one I have) and other got the Ubuntu lanyard
[20:47] <coz_> mainerror,  ah I see
[20:48] <mainerror> Budapest was great, a beautiful city!
[20:48] <coz_> mainerror,  excellent,, I am jealous :)
[20:48] <coz_> thorwil,  what question is that?
[20:49] <thorwil> coz_: mainerror already told you ;)
[20:49] <coz_> oh
[20:49] <coz_> sorry
[20:50] <coz_> its going to be one of those days,,, I read and then  woosh,, its gone :)
[21:14] <vish> mainerror: the animal logos on the t-shirt are not a "design guideline" hence probably not part of the toolkit, you could request the design team to release those if you are interested in doing other stuff with it..
[21:16] <mainerror> alright, thanks vish. I was already thinking something like that :)
[21:16] <vish> mainerror: you could poke ivanka/iain for it.. but i guess iain is better with those sutff
[21:16] <vish> stuff*
[21:16] <vish> ivanka probably already has a load of wrangling..
[21:17] <mainerror> ok, I'll do that then :)
[21:17] <vish> zniavre: i'm pretty sure, not many here know about the gtk3 theming :)  dashua might start working on it when unico is working..
[21:18] <vish> i'd probably start looking at it too, when unico is ready..
[21:18] <vish> but its a whole new thing and might take a while before people figure it out well..
[21:19] <vish> zniavre: SeanW was one of the early folks who was theming GNOME3 , so he might know more, he usually hangs out in #gnome-shell
[21:20] <vish> coz_: Budapest is a place where you might find it easier to find models for your pencil work ;)
[21:20] <coz_> vish,  oh!  I am moving today  lol
[21:21] <coz_> vish,  actually ,, I no longer do nude stuff,, it was a nice period of learning for me  but frankly putting up with models is not my favorite passtime :)
[21:22] <vish> actually those are the tough ones, not easy doing them
[21:22] <vish> (any human forms)
[21:23] <coz_> vish,  I think too many people think its important to be able to draw naturalistically as if it means you are not an artist,, but or course drawing    a person  , place or thing has absolutely nothing to do with art :)
[21:25] <mainerror> I do agree vish, Budapest is definitely the right city to find models :D
[21:25] <vish> coz_: heh, yea, artistic imagination required! ;)  not every good artistic can get a human form right, nor is any person who gets the human form right a good artist ;p
[21:26] <vish> err, s/any person/every person
[21:26] <coz_> vish,  exactly,,, it is how you get the message across,,
[21:26] <mainerror> and that also depends on the audience
[21:27] <coz_> mainerror,  it does but a fine piece should cross backgrounds,, contries, languages
[21:27] <vish> mainerror: you literally cannot walk the streets without getting solicited … even odd was that the Hotel had people coming in o.0
[21:28] <mainerror> vish, what? really? Thats really odd
[21:29] <vish> mainerror: did you see the hotel's tour brochure? there is an add in it too! o.0
[21:29] <mainerror> oh well yea I've seen those yea
[21:31] <coz_> mainerror,  I dont recall seeing you here before,, I probably just wasnt around when you were here
[21:32] <coz_> mainerror,  however ,, you are the only one  I have seen :)
[21:33]  * coz_ refers to the photo :)
[21:34] <mainerror> I'm new in this channel ;)
[21:34] <coz_> mainerror,  excellent :)
[21:34] <vish> nah, the cat is out of the bag, coz_ is a creepy stalker!!
[21:34] <mainerror> but I'm very interested in digital art, especially in 2D art
[21:34] <vish> he followed you home!!  look behind you ;p
[21:34] <coz_> :)
[21:34] <mainerror> vish, nope only the cat :D
[21:35] <coz_> mainerror,  well this is very very cool,, a new person,, it gets tiring hearing vish 's  evil rants lol
[21:35] <mainerror> lolz
[21:35] <vish> ;)
[21:36] <coz_> :)
[21:36] <mainerror> this is my gallery on deviant art it someone is interested http://odamiean.deviantart.com/gallery/
[21:36] <vish> coz_: you forgot darkmatter !! poor guy he'd pout if we dont include in our rants :p
[21:36] <coz_> vish,  oh yes  I have to apologize :)
[21:37] <mainerror> I should probably create some Ubuntu stuff and update it
[21:37] <coz_> mainerror,  looking now
[21:37] <coz_> mainerror,  cool
[21:37] <mainerror> yes, I'm quite an Android fan
[21:38] <mainerror> correction, I was an Android fan
[21:38] <darkmatter> wuh? huh? who? o.O
[21:38] <coz_> darkmatter,  :) hey guy
[21:38] <coz_> darkmatter,  vish  just mentioned that you are evil incarnate :)
[21:39] <mainerror> oh yea and I did that one http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/unity-keyboard-mouse-shortcuts/36648#36648
[21:39] <darkmatter> and as for you vish: see this? oh no, wait, you can't see gestures over the internet, your loss :P
[21:39] <mainerror> that one is at least Ubuntu related :D
[21:39] <coz_> darkmatter,  lol
[21:39] <vish> lmao!!
[21:40] <coz_> mainerror,  oo that's interesting
[21:40] <coz_> mainerror,  and you have the svg source ,, very excellent :)
[21:41] <coz_> mainerror,   good idea by the way
[21:41] <mainerror> thanks :)
[21:42] <coz_> mainerror,  i think with 11.04's  introduction to Unity ,, this is going to be needed
[21:43] <coz_> opening inkscape to take closer look :)
[21:43] <mainerror> I'm planing to do something a bit more advanced though. An overlay (like the conky overlays) which gets triggered by, lets say Ctrl + H. It displays that cheat sheet.
[21:43] <coz_> mainerror,  oo that would be real nice
[21:43] <mainerror> that be resolution independent cause right now the solution sucks
[21:44] <coz_> mainerror,  I wonder if it can be triggered from within compiz as well
[21:45] <mainerror> coz_, yea beware some elements are on the wrong layers, I should fix that if I find the time
[21:45] <coz_> mainerror, ok lookin carefully :)
[22:07] <coz_> mainerror,  out of curiosity, how were you planning to create an overlay for this?  via xcompozitereleaseoverlaywindow?
[22:08] <mainerror> honestly I have no idea, I've never done something like that before :)
[22:09] <coz_> mainerror,  oh  , I have been doing a bit of research on this since you mentioned it,, I think I need to re word the search string,, but I did come across this    http://linux.die.net/man/3/xcompositereleaseoverlaywindow
[22:11] <mainerror> hmm, looks interesting
[22:12] <coz_> mainerror,  I am also asking sam  if we can create a overlay plugin for any type of image,,,  should be easy with compiz
[22:14] <coz_> mainerror,  although it would be nicer to have this on the system with or without compiz
[22:15] <mainerror> the only question is, does it make sense without compiz? I mean Unity depends on compiz
[22:15] <coz_> mainerror,  that is a good point
[22:16] <coz_> mainerror,  well I will see what he says,, it should be no issue as a compiz plugin
[22:16] <mainerror> sounds great, thanks!
[22:16] <coz_> mainerror,  well the only thing I was thinking is  Unity 2d  or at least on 11.04  classic ( no effects)  people using either of those would be left out of the overlay
[22:17] <mainerror> true
[22:24] <mainerror> ok I'm absolutely confused by the brand communication guideline, which dot pattern do I have to use for community stuff now?
[22:25] <coz_> mainerror,  I am just as confused,,
[22:29] <mainerror> judging by the name none at all. one is called the developer dots and the other one is called the enterprise dots
[22:31] <coz_> mainerror,  where are you looking?
[22:31] <mainerror> dot patterns and usage
[22:32] <coz_> thanks
[22:43] <mainerror> I'm off to bed, catch ya tomorrow


[14:13] <smoser> harmw, dont know of a freiendly firewall webgui thing. other than dd-wrt or openwrt. you can probably get an openwrt that you could run in a vm.
[18:07] <smoser> alexpilotti, around ?
[18:08] <alexpilotti> hey sure
[19:33] <harmw> alexpilotti: why don't you guys offer wgettable images :)
[19:34] <alexpilotti> harmw: because of the licensing :-(
[19:34] <harmw> (it was retoric)
[19:34] <alexpilotti> user needs to accept the license first
[19:34] <harmw> yea
[19:34] <harmw> I figured
[19:34] <alexpilotti> lol
[19:34] <harmw> :)
[19:34] <harmw> it just sucks having to dl 6GB and than upload that same 6GB again
[19:35] <alexpilotti> if it were up to me, I’d just put them in a torrent!
[19:35] <harmw> still not very wget compatible :P
[19:36] <alexpilotti> yeah, but a big bandwidth saver for us :-)
[19:36] <harmw> hehe definately
[19:43] <harmw> alexpilotti: +infinity for that reBot :>
[19:44] <alexpilotti> harmw: :-)
[19:46] <harmw> hm, don't you guys have mirrors? in NL?
[19:46] <harmw> since ~400kb/sec isn't realy fast :p
[19:59] <alexpilotti> we have a lot of bandwidth here (Romania) and usually downloads are fats in EU, but we definitely need to add mirrors oversees
[20:15] <smoser> ok... i think we have to have a cloud-init 0.7 -> python3 day.
[20:15] <smoser> who is in ... maybe do that friday ? or monday ?
[20:17] <harmw> ah, thank god I don't no shit about python(3) :)
[20:25] <harlowja> didn't i already do that :-P
[20:26] <harlowja> https://code.launchpad.net/~harlowja/cloud-init/py2-3/+merge/225240 ;)
[20:27] <harlowja> what else is left for python3 ;)
[20:27] <harmw> :>
[20:27] <harlowja> *besides making sure i didn't screw up 225240  to much
[20:27] <harlowja> lol
[20:28] <harlowja> six six six six
[20:28] <harlowja> six
[20:28] <harlowja> lol
[22:17] <j12t> How do I disable certain data sources? E.g. if I know the VM boots in VirtualBox with a config disk, how do I prevent it from accessing the Amazon URL?
[22:22] <j12t> Actually nvm, there's a description here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Cloud-init


[00:25] <Altair> Hullo
[00:26] <Altair> I have no idea what I've entered
[00:26] <Altair> well, not really at least
[00:26] <Altair> I'm just installing ubuntustudio
[00:27] <Altair> bye
[00:34] <sakrecoer> oh boy am i rusty... installing us 18.10 \o/ finally...
[00:35] <sakrecoer> then i'm hit with doubts...
[00:35] <sakrecoer> i have /dev/sda blank. this is where i want my OS
[00:35] <sakrecoer> i have /dev/sdb full of precious data: music and pictures and what not
[00:36] <OvenWerks> pick "Do something else"
[00:36] <sakrecoer> if i chose esare disk and install ubuntu studio, it will wipe everything right?
[00:37] <OvenWerks> personally, I want to choose what my install does. The "something else" option allows me to see what partitions are used and if they are formatted
[00:38] <sakrecoer> sounds fair...
[00:38] <sakrecoer> i here since 18.04 a swap partition isn't required anymore, because it uses some kindof swap file..
[00:38] <sakrecoer> i hear even
[00:39] <OvenWerks> If I am just testing I generally have the testing partition use it's own boot sector to install grub on.
[00:39] <sakrecoer> OvenWerks: this is for my production machine...
[00:39] <OvenWerks> Yikes!
[00:39] <sakrecoer> yikes for production with 18.10 or swap files?
[00:39] <sakrecoer> hehe
[00:40] <OvenWerks> swap files can be a bad thing unless they are fixed size
[00:40] <OvenWerks> and that size is contiguous
[00:40] <OvenWerks> (Hmm sounds a lot like a partition)
[00:41] <sakrecoer> ... you lost me there OvenWerks... what sounds a lot like a partition? :D
[00:43] <OvenWerks> Ya, A contiguous bit of drive space, set aside, is like a partition. So that kind of swap file is like mounting a file as a partition
[00:43] <sakrecoer> got it :)
[00:43] <OvenWerks> This is different from the windows type spawfile. The windows swapfile starts out small amd grows as needed
[00:44] <OvenWerks>  This means the head may have to jump around to find what should be one long run of data
[00:44] <OvenWerks> (equals slow)
[00:44] <sakrecoer> so would you recomend to do a partition for swap?
[00:45] <OvenWerks> My personal thoughts on swap for music, is that swap should never be used except to allow one to safe an otherwise good recording in an OOM event.
[00:46] <sakrecoer> OOM?
[00:46] <OvenWerks>  If you are using an SSD it may not matter as there is not physical head to move and the bits of memory are A) not contiguous anyway amnd B) movable.
[00:46] <OvenWerks> OOM = out of memory
[00:46] <sakrecoer> thanks :)
[00:47] <sakrecoer> i'll just try without swap partition then. if i stumble on something weird i'll repport back
[00:47] <sakrecoer> very good to read you btw OvenWerks :)
[00:47] <OvenWerks> :)
[00:48] <OvenWerks> if you are installing 18.10... try using -controls for starting jack instead of qjackctl or cadence
[00:48] <OvenWerks> Use patchage for connections
[00:49] <sakrecoer> i was looking at it while playing arround on the live boot. can't wait to try it :)
[00:49] <sakrecoer> looks like there's been a lot of energy put into it! <3
[00:49] <OvenWerks> -controls will let you set up your internal audio as i/o and then a USB device will just show up when plugged in.
[01:03] <sakrecoer> interestin, i remember it was possible to encrypt only the home folder... didn't seem to catch that step in the procedure..
[01:04] <sakrecoer> oh well https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2397546
[01:04] <OvenWerks> I haven't tried to do that.
[01:04] <sakrecoer> seems it's been disabled..
[01:04] <OvenWerks> I thought it was in the format choice
[01:05] <sakrecoer> good to know. not too important in my case as this is a stationary...
[01:05] <sakrecoer> greetings krytarik o/
[01:06] <krytarik> Ohoooh!
[01:06] <sakrecoer> :)
[01:07] <sakrecoer> finally installing 18.10 \o/ of course my memory failed me. but luckily OvenWerks came to teh rescue!
[01:08] <sakrecoer> i've been conservatively sitting on my 16.04 comfyness... until my HD gave me busybox madness...
[01:09] <sakrecoer> it's time to reboot... if i don't come back, it means the HD is dead and i will go to bed lol :D if anyone has a spare thumb to hold <3
[01:15] <sakrecoer> it worked! \o/ weeeeee
[01:16] <sakrecoer> i must say eylul- wallpaper is very nice
[01:17] <sakrecoer> boy i can't wait to get all comfy in here... too bad i have pesky work tomorrow early...
[01:18] <OvenWerks> enjoy...
[01:18] <sakrecoer> <3 thanks for your assistance OvenWerks :) i'll be sure to put -controls at hard test!
[01:18] <sakrecoer> g'night! o/
[02:12]  * Eickmeyer notices a wild sakrecoer was here, and missed him.
[02:37] <OvenWerks> not sure if wild or tamed is the right word :)
[14:49] <studio-user723> has anyone tried installing anbox on their ubuntu studio 18.04?
[14:50] <studio-user723> mine is installed (i think). clicked on "anbox application manager" window popped up satying "starting", but then always dissapears.


[17:58] <khush> Hi friend
[17:59] <khush> i have hp laptop that have windows 10 .
[18:00] <khush> and than i make it dual boot with ubuntu 16.04 with different partition
[18:00] <khush> i have 4 partition with  ubuntu and windows
[18:00] <khush> but 1 partion that have much data didnt mount
[18:01] <khush> that have error occurs
[18:01] <khush> Error mounting system-managed device /dev/sda5: Command-line `mount "/media/9646d3c0-9bd5-4cc4-b3a9-60148e9ea57f"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: /dev/sda5: can't read superblock
[18:02] <khush> what should i do please help im in very trouble
[18:20] <khush> ??


[07:10] <mup> PR snapd#12499 closed: .shellcheckrc, tests/lib: fix unreachable code warnings without global disable <Created by ernestl> <Merged by ernestl> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12499>
[08:00] <mup> PR snapd#12544 closed: cmd/snap: enhance inhibit graphical flow unit tests <Simple 😃> <Skip spread> <Created by ernestl> <Merged by ernestl> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12544>
[08:20] <mup> PR snapd#12569 opened: many: remove usage of LaidOutStructure in Observe and remove unused member <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12569>
[08:43] <mup> PR pc-amd64-gadget#79 opened: Fix classic build and recognize SERIES parameter <Created by toabctl> <https://github.com/snapcore/pc-amd64-gadget/pull/79>
[14:47] <mup> PR snapd#12570 opened: snap-bootstrap: split in smaller commands <Created by valentindavid> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12570>
[17:04] <mup> PR snapcraft#4036 closed: tests: ensure coverage is set per tox env <Created by lengau> <Merged by cmatsuoka> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4036>
[17:04] <mup> PR snapcraft#4038 closed: tests: update kde-frameworks sdk snap <Created by cmatsuoka> <Closed by cmatsuoka> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4038>
[17:07] <mup> PR snapd#12569 closed: many: remove usage of LaidOutStructure in Observe and remove unused member <Run nested> <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <Merged by alfonsosanchezbeato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12569>
[18:34] <mup> PR snapcraft#4027 closed: requirements: update craft-parts to 1.18.1 <Created by cmatsuoka> <Merged by cmatsuoka> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4027>
[18:44] <mup> PR snapcraft#4039 opened: [EXPERIMENTAL] packaging: update snap base to core22 <Created by cmatsuoka> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4039>
[21:49] <mup> PR snapcraft#4033 closed: build(deps): bump cryptography from 3.4 to 39.0.1 <dependencies> <python> <Created by dependabot[bot]> <Closed by lengau> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4033>
[22:59] <mup> PR snapd#12552 closed: o/snapstate: mk pre-download tasks if running snap blocks autorefresh <Created by MiguelPires> <Merged by MiguelPires> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12552>


[09:16] <debrisrat> Aranel,
[09:16] <debrisrat> merhaba
[09:16] <debrisrat> herkese
[09:16] <debrisrat> Aranel,
[09:41] <manapot> merhaba
[09:41] <manapot> @debrisrat, nasılsın


 Guys did you hear the news about cyanogen?
 I did
 Rip in peace
 Saw that coming quite a while ago
 Hope the transition goes well
 There a new project ready to take the reigns?
 Linage OS
 https://github.com/lineageos
 Lineage OS my bad
 @ahoneybun at least you didn't spell it Leneage
 😆
 @DanielCitrin, Only partially true - there were a few phones that shipped with a Cyanogen build OS that they partnered up with the OEM. These were the builds that included Cortana/MS Office. These phones will not get future updates from Cyanogen.
 Anyone who uses a CyanogenMod build will still get updates as long as the developers maintain the builds outside of the Cyanogen build service
 Like the OnePlus One
 @ahoneybun, A few of them (the ones with the Cyanogen Logo on the back)
 Any one of them can install it
 Not just the ones with the Logo
 True but as the build was never meant for users to flash on phones without the logo... I don't think that will impact too many
 It was
 Well, my friends in CM are saying the bulk of their efforts are moving to Lineage OS
 Well as long as it's a peaceful move
 ^
 @AbMind hey what time does the show start tonight at Falcon?
 Nice


[08:25] <mup> Bug #1922948 changed: Multiple interfaces with same MAC make rack interfaces udpate fail <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1922948>
[08:43] <mup> Bug #1922948 opened: Multiple interfaces with same MAC make rack interfaces udpate fail <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1922948>
[08:49] <mup> Bug #1922948 changed: Multiple interfaces with same MAC make rack interfaces udpate fail <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1922948>
[08:49] <mup> Bug #1939077 changed: Surface last updated value in machine.list ws method <websocket-api> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1939077>
[08:52] <mup> Bug #1939077 opened: Surface last updated value in machine.list ws method <websocket-api> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1939077>
[08:58] <mup> Bug #1939077 changed: Surface last updated value in machine.list ws method <websocket-api> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1939077>
[09:37] <mup> Bug #1980347 opened: MAAS snap fails to parse supervisor STOPPING state <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1980347>
[14:08] <mup> Bug #1969510 opened: MaaS deletes image architectures if you delete all images of that architecture <MAAS:New> <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1969510>
[16:14] <mcint> is there a better irc server for maas questions? does canonical run a public irc (...or matrix / w/e) chat server?
[23:40] <mup> Bug #1975728 changed: Recommissioned machine now fails power control due to cipher suite <servcert-373> <MAAS:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1975728>
[23:43] <mup> Bug #1975728 opened: Recommissioned machine now fails power control due to cipher suite <servcert-373> <MAAS:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1975728>
[23:46] <mup> Bug #1975728 changed: Recommissioned machine now fails power control due to cipher suite <servcert-373> <MAAS:Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1975728>


[16:03] <czajkowski> hiya me again
[16:03] <czajkowski> looking for more suggestions for restaurants in copenhagen people can recommend
[16:03] <czajkowski> so we can update wiki details and attendees of places to go


[13:59] <penguin42> There seems to be a triplet of people reporting the recent 3.5.0-20 update on Quantal is giving them odd oops in  ftrace/trace
[14:00] <penguin42> bug 1087967, bug 1087622, bug 1087584   a bit worrying really
[14:00] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1087967 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel OOPS on intel 5 series/3400 leads to non working mouse" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1087967
[14:00] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1087622 in linux (Ubuntu) "Linux kernel 3.5.0-20 won't boot [unable to handle kernel paging request at f91fe4fc in trace_event_raw_init+0xb/0x20]" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1087622
[14:00] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1087584 in linux (Ubuntu) "linux-image-3.5.0-20-generic boot oops " [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1087584
[17:23] <bjf> henrix_`, ^ it does seem to be a pattern


[00:10] <mup> PR snapcraft#2634 closed: remote build: fully preserve local sources and support packaging all sources <Created by cjp256> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2634>


[08:00] <davmor2> Morning everybody
[08:05] <cody-somerville> Morning
[08:38] <maddin> hi
[08:39] <maddin> does anybody know how to mount sfs-volumes derived from dynamic windows volumes under ubuntu ?
[08:39] <maddin> i googled a lot, but couldn't find a real solution
[08:48] <cody-somerville> I have no idea what a sfs-volume is
[08:52] <davmor2> cody-somerville: Simple File Sharing in xp etc
[08:54] <davmor2> maddin: Is it an xp drive or vista
[10:35] <davmor2> Damn it alternate's are screwed again :(
[10:44] <maddin> davorm2: it's an xp drive
[10:44] <maddin>  davorm2: a volume containing 2 hdds, created with xp
[10:46] <davmor2> maddin: sorry then I don't think there is an easy way to mount it :(  There are several links in the forums but all seem to work on single drives
[10:50] <maddin> davorm2: yes, that's my problem :) ... I thought, maybe someone here's got an acceptable solution :-/
[10:51] <maddin> I currently don't have a large hdd to copy my data, so I cant use my share with ubuntu
[10:51] <maddin> on the other hand : I couldn't find a good software for xp to mount linux-lvms rw
[10:52] <maddin> so I have to stick to xp to access my volume...I don't really like that
[10:52] <maddin> :(
[13:47] <pitti> hi all
[13:48] <pitti> I just built updated ubuntu alternates, which should now fix the grub error on installation, and are not oversized any more
[13:48] <pitti> happy testing!
[13:48]  * pitti grabs the amd64 one
[15:40] <ara> has anyone been able to install the alternate in a vbox machine?
[15:49] <davmor2> ara: alt was scrap
[15:50] <davmor2> you need 20080812.1 for a working version
[15:50] <ara> davmor2: thanks
[15:50] <davmor2> np's
[15:50] <davmor2> ara: it's been dead since the weekend
[15:51] <ara> i will download the new version and check again
[15:51] <davmor2> if you hold off dling it though I'm just confirming that the grub error is fixed
[15:51] <davmor2> shouldn't be more than 5 minutes
[15:52] <ara> davmor2: thanks, ill wait for you
[16:01] <davmor2> ara: it's working fine now on hw
[16:01] <ara> davmor2: ok, i will download it and try it in vbox
[16:01] <ara> davmor2: thanks again
[16:02] <davmor2> ara: Np's
[16:10] <cgregan> ogasawara: ping
[16:10] <ogasawara> cgregan: pong
[16:11] <cgregan> quick question about our perl script. How can I make it add a space between tables when it forms the wiki output?
[16:11] <ogasawara> cgregan: i'll take a peek in a sec, in the middle of kernel team call
[16:11] <cgregan> ok
[16:11] <cgregan> thanks
[17:01] <ogasawara> cgregan: just checked in a small fix for adding a space between the tables in the wiki output
[17:01] <ogasawara> cgregan: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~canonical-qa/canonical-qa-tracking/main/revision/120
[17:08] <cgregan> ogasawara: Oh...sweet thanks


[07:25] <smonsarr> darkxst, I an talking about the list of install options during the initial install process, it would be great if ubuntu-gnome-desktop was present in that list.
[07:26] <smonsarr> a bug has now been filed : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tasksel/+bug/1299953
[07:43] <darkxst> smonsarr, I linked an older bug to your? email
[07:44] <darkxst> anyway adding ubuntu-gnome-desktop to tasksel is straight forward
[07:44] <darkxst> just need to make sure its doing the right thin
[07:44] <darkxst> g
[07:46] <darkxst> altough Lance's logs don't look too bad
[07:54] <darkxst> Noskcaj, can you add Ubuntu GNOME to tasksel?
[07:54] <darkxst> ^ per above bug
[07:56] <darkxst> Noskcaj, see http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/tasksel/trusty/revision/73
[07:57] <darkxst> we just want -desktop task I think
[07:58] <Noskcaj> i can try
[08:22] <darkxst> Noskcaj, just copy what lubuntu did ;)
[08:22] <Noskcaj> yep
[08:24] <Noskcaj> Do i only need a -desktop task or do i need -live too
[08:25] <darkxst> I suspose if all the other flavours have them, we should have -live
[08:25] <darkxst> also btw our seeds are at https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-gnome-dev/ubuntu-seeds
[08:38] <Noskcaj> merge is up
[08:45] <darkxst> Noskcaj, thanks, lgtm go ahead and propose merge, link to bug
[08:45] <Noskcaj> is there a bug?
[08:46] <darkxst> oh you missed it
[08:46] <darkxst> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tasksel/+bug/1299953
[08:48] <Noskcaj> done
[08:58] <saber_> hello
[08:59] <saber_> any ubuntu gnome dev here
[09:01] <saber_> hello
[11:31] <cnanakos> Hi all, I've managed to install Ubuntu Gnome to a MacBook Pro Retina but after rebooting it seems it can't see the disk as bootable.
[11:32] <cnanakos> Has anyone similar experience?
[12:12] <ahoneybun> cnanakos, does grub show up?
[12:47] <cnanakos> ahoneybun: no unfortunately
[13:21] <mgedmin> is it possible to get debug symbols for ppa packages?
[16:27] <zodman> hi there
[19:36] <ahoneybun> darkxst, what ppa do I need to get 3.12?
[19:39] <ahoneybun> or ppas
[19:39] <zodman> dudes i using saucy how i can test the new gnome ?
[19:39] <Noskcaj> zodman, Update to trusty or add the gnome ppa
[19:41] <Noskcaj> zodman, ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3  will get you 3.10 on saucy, but we haven't finished packaging 3.12
[19:44] <SonikkuAmerica> Quick correction: 14.04 is using 3.10
[19:46] <ahoneybun> so what will get me gnome 3.12 on trust?
[19:46] <ahoneybun> *y
[19:49] <Noskcaj> ahoneybun, The above ppa, but it's not fully 3.12 yet
[19:50] <ahoneybun> Noskcaj, but that has like nothign 3.12 stagging on does
[19:52] <ahoneybun> staging has 3.12
[19:52] <ahoneybun> right now
[19:53] <Noskcaj> yep
[19:56] <ahoneybun> so add gnome3 for the rest of 3.10 and then staging for 3.12
[20:36] <majod> hi. i have minor problem with 14.04b2, the keyboard layout constantly switches randomly,is there a place where i can report it?
[20:38] <SonikkuAmerica> majod: I would file a bug against ibus in Launchpad.
[20:38] <majod> im running it in vmware...is it still relevant?
[20:41] <SonikkuAmerica> majod: Absolutely!
[20:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Installs in VMware, VirtualBox and QEMU are all valid
[20:43] <Noskcaj> darkxst, Is there a link to the current ubuntu gnome artwork?
[20:45] <majod> SonikkuAmerica: thanks, posted
[20:45] <SonikkuAmerica> majod: Can you link me to it?
[20:46] <majod> SonikkuAmerica: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-gnome/+bug/1300435
[20:46] <SonikkuAmerica> thx
[20:46] <darkxst> Noskcaj, https://launchpad.net/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu
[20:48] <SonikkuAmerica> majod: As an additional step I would file a bug at IBus' bug tracker on Google Code and link it to the bug you created.
[20:49] <SonikkuAmerica> majod: Also, you were supposed to file against IBus, not Ubuntu GNOME. This is not an Ubuntu GNOME specific bug; Xubuntu reports this too.
[20:50] <majod> hmm but i dont have this problem in other distros...even 14.04 based
[20:50] <darkxst> Noskcaj, actual branch is at https://code.launchpad.net/~ubiquity-slideshow/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/html
[20:50] <majod> SonikkuAmerica: can i change it somehow?
[20:51] <SonikkuAmerica> majod: I'll take your word for it. But still, go to Google Code and file the same bug, possibly with dmesg output for IBus: [ dmesg | grep -i ibus ]
[20:51] <majod> ok thanks
[20:51] <majod> yes im running multiple virtual machines and it happens only in this one
[20:51] <majod> but maybe it will fix on its own...
[20:52] <SonikkuAmerica> majod: When you finish, send me the bug report link again and I'll link it to the bug you filed in Launchpad.
[20:52] <majod> SonikkuAmerica: this? http://code.google.com/p/ibus/issues/list
[20:53] <SonikkuAmerica> majod: I checked that list. Does Issue #830 look like your situation?
[20:54] <SonikkuAmerica> majod: ( http://code.google.com/p/ibus/issues/detail?id=830 )
[20:54] <majod> SonikkuAmerica: hmm i dont think so
[20:55] <SonikkuAmerica> majod: Then file a new "Defect" issue for your situation. Worst-case it will be marked a dupe, but at least it will be on there.
[20:57] <majod> I cant find this bug reported so I better report it...maybe somethings wrong here, maybe not. but it wont do any harm
[20:58] <SonikkuAmerica> Yeah.
[20:59] <majod> btw. dmesg | grep -i ibus is without output
[21:01] <SonikkuAmerica> majod: OK... if it's not reproducible as you say it might be harder to fix.
[21:04] <majod> im still trying to report ibus bug but cant figure out how to get ibus version
[21:05] <majod> i guess ibus 1.5.5-1ubuntu3
[21:07] <SonikkuAmerica> majod: Yes
[21:07] <SonikkuAmerica> Which is technically 1.5.5-1
[21:09] <majod> i have no idea whats Input method name and version
[21:12] <Noskcaj> darkxst, https://code.launchpad.net/~noskcaj/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ubuntu-gnome-14.04/+merge/213553
[21:12] <Noskcaj> I'll change it to needs review when the UIFe is filed
[21:14] <darkxst> Noskcaj, merge should go against the packaging branch (as in control.in)
[21:14] <Noskcaj> oh
[21:18] <Noskcaj> it automatically changes back to lp:ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu
[21:24] <majod> http://code.google.com/p/ibus/issues/detail?id=1699


[06:14] <Kilos> morning all
[09:24] <inetpro> good mornings oom Kilos
[09:24] <inetpro> all alone here today?
[09:32] <Kilos> yeah inetpro  maybe peeps on holiday or something
[09:33] <Kilos> you must rest a bit today as well then
[09:34] <inetpro> thought I'd just check in here to check if you're ok :-)
[09:34] <Kilos> ty sir
[09:34] <Kilos> :D
[09:35] <inetpro> Kilos: btw, are you still reading stuff via akregator?
[09:35] <Kilos> oh my
[09:35] <inetpro> ai!
[09:35] <Kilos> i dunno where that thing went
[09:36] <Kilos> found it
[09:36] <inetpro> when you reboot you need to open it at least once
[09:37] <Kilos> i see so
[09:37] <inetpro> or set to open automagically
[09:37] <Kilos> but ive read the whole ubuntu news letter today
[09:37] <inetpro> haha
[09:40] <inetpro> Kilos: go to system settings and under the Startup and Shutdown options add it to Autostart
[09:40] <Kilos> hmm... might be better not on auto
[09:40] <inetpro> ai!
[09:40] <inetpro> ok
[09:41] <Kilos> it uses data if you look at stuff with pics in
[09:41] <Kilos> like the jonathan riddel post
[09:42] <inetpro> reminds me of the days when I read RSS feeds via cli
[09:42] <Kilos> lol
[09:42] <Kilos> cli might be better at times, no pics
[09:43] <inetpro> Kilos: the story about "Hanging with my Homies in LA"?
[09:43] <Kilos> ya
[09:43] <Kilos> i see a miley one there that still show in red
[09:43] <Kilos> grrr
[09:44] <inetpro> oh ya, sorry... lotsa pics sometimes
[09:44] <Kilos> np
[09:44] <Kilos> does anyone here have kubuntu membership?
[09:44] <inetpro> in other parts of the world they don't understand that we have limits
[09:44] <Kilos> yeah
[09:44] <inetpro> Kilos: not that I am aware of
[09:45] <Kilos> does one have to go through the whole interview thing again?
[09:45] <inetpro> they do their own thing
[09:47] <Kilos> ai! somehow i deleted that blog
[09:48] <inetpro> what blog?
[09:48] <Kilos> the one about africa site and stuff
[09:49] <inetpro> your blog?
[09:49] <Kilos> its called kilosblog
[09:49] <Kilos> Maaz  kilos.newblog
[09:49] <Maaz> http://kilosubuntu.blogspot.com
[09:49] <inetpro> still there
[09:49] <Kilos> thats my blog place for ubuntu related stuff
[09:50] <Kilos> ya but the link in planet doesnt work
[09:50] <inetpro> link in planet?
[09:50] <MaNI> how many blogs do you have? :p
[09:50] <Kilos> 2
[09:50] <Kilos> my old one and the new one
[09:50] <Kilos> lemme try find it
[09:53] <Kilos> inetpro  does this sound logical
[09:54] <Kilos> Somehow I have managed to delete my last blog on on the planet feed I think it is called.
[09:54] <inetpro> no
[09:54] <Kilos> one on only
[09:54] <Kilos> ok explain what i did please
[09:54]  * inetpro has no idea what you did
[09:54] <Kilos> look at that miley link under riddels post
[09:55] <Kilos> do you see it or only me
[09:56] <Kilos> 8 posts after riddels post
[09:56] <inetpro> ai!
[09:57] <Kilos> you see it in red?
[09:57] <Kilos> i do
[09:57] <inetpro> Kilos: where do you want me to look?
[09:57] <Kilos> ai!
[09:58] <Kilos> in akgregator man
[09:58] <Kilos> what dont you understand?
[09:58] <inetpro> and?
[09:58] <Kilos> planet ubuntu
[09:59] <Kilos> then down 8 posts past "Hanging with my Homies in LA"?
[09:59] <Kilos> there is one called miley
[10:00] <inetpro> "Mattia Migliorini: SweetCAPTCHA distributes Adware"
[10:00] <Kilos> oh Miley
[10:00] <inetpro> no mileys here
[10:01] <Kilos> oh so only i see it then
[10:01] <inetpro> but why?
[10:01] <Kilos> thats why i cant get you to see it
[10:01] <Kilos> i must have deleted it by accident
[10:01] <inetpro> how did you add it, and how did you delete it?
[10:02] <Kilos> right from my blog
[10:02] <inetpro> not likely
[10:02] <Kilos> first one had mistakes so i made another one and deleted the wrong one i think
[10:03] <Kilos> ok its supposed to go there automagically so ill just reblog it
[10:04] <inetpro> yikes!
[10:04] <Kilos> what?
[10:04] <Kilos> rofl
[10:04] <inetpro> stop messing with stuff that worked fine
[10:04] <Kilos> i really like chatting to you
[10:04] <inetpro> I see the rss feed is dated 04/06/2015 14:38
[10:05] <Kilos> i thought you cant see it?
[10:05] <Kilos> ai!
[10:11] <inetpro> Kilos: http://kilosubuntu.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default?alt=rss
[10:12] <Kilos> eeeek
[10:12] <inetpro> that is what the planet looks at
[10:12] <Kilos> and?
[10:16] <inetpro> did you mess with bzr stuff as well?
[10:16] <Kilos> nono
[10:16] <Kilos> i gotta go eat
[10:16] <inetpro> ok
[10:18] <inetpro> anyway... don't worry about old postings, just let it stay as is and go post something new... that is how blogs work
[10:38] <Kilos> did my away thing show anything by you sir?
[13:51] <inetpro> Kilos: I can't see your away when I'm away
[13:51] <Kilos> ok
[13:51] <Kilos> inetpro  watch now
[13:54] <Kilos> duh! today sometime
[13:54] <inetpro> uh, why you going away when you're still here?
[13:54] <Kilos> so you can check man
[13:54] <inetpro> oh
[13:55] <Kilos> ai! ek sukkel met my volk
[13:55] <inetpro> Kilos is away
[13:55] <Kilos> i had a good laugh yesterday
[13:55] <inetpro> Kilos is back from away
[13:55] <Kilos> arnaud is even using the word lekker now
[13:56] <Kilos> soon the whole world will say ai!
[13:56] <inetpro> yikes!
[13:56] <Kilos> haha
[13:56] <inetpro> Cryterion: wb
[13:56] <Cryterion> tks
[13:56] <Kilos> ha outa hiding
[13:56] <Cryterion> switched from phone to pc
[13:57]  * Cryterion go's to check on the load schedule status
[13:57] <Kilos> lol
[13:57] <inetpro> Kilos: why did you want to be away?
[13:58] <Kilos> even more important than emails these days
[13:58] <Kilos> inetpro  i wanted to know if it told peeps
[13:58] <inetpro> Cryterion: do you have an Android phone?
[13:58] <Kilos> i used the /away command here
[13:58] <inetpro> Kilos: it doesn't
[13:58] <Cryterion> inetpro yeah why
[13:58] <inetpro> Cryterion: install gridwatch
[13:58] <Kilos> cant find where to show away in konversation
[13:59] <Cryterion> will check it out, last time I did, it gave me some area in the us
[13:59] <inetpro> Cryterion: I don't use location based checking
[14:00] <Cryterion> but that was web based one
[14:00] <inetpro> just find an area that goes off in the same group as yours
[14:00] <Kilos> ill rely on pro to keep me informed about load shedding
[14:01] <inetpro> Kilos: you can never rely on inetpro
[14:01]  * inetpro is cosistently inconsistent
[14:01] <Kilos> oh i know him better than you
[14:01] <Cryterion> He's always watching, but doesn't always reply!!!!!
[14:01] <Kilos> i have habana with the sjambok to call
[14:01] <Cryterion> lol
[14:01] <Kilos> hibana
[14:02] <Kilos> i live by bible rules
[14:02] <Kilos> spare the rod and spoil the child
[14:04] <hibana> someone called my name?
[14:04] <Kilos> aha hibana  wb
[14:04]  * Cryterion wonders how true the No Load Shedding Status is
[14:04] <Kilos> please keep inetpro  in order
[14:04]  * Cryterion puts inetpro in order
[14:05]  * hibana tries very hard
[14:05] <Kilos> Cryterion  you only know for sure when the lights go out
[14:05] <Cryterion> yeah
[14:05] <Kilos> Cryterion  do you know hibana  ?
[14:05] <Cryterion> Not yet, Hi hibana
[14:06] <inetpro> Cryterion: see http://loadshedding.eskom.co.za/ and http://www.poweralert.co.za/poweralert5/index.php?location=online
[14:06] <Kilos> he is one of the first , alongside fly to invite and help me here
[14:06] <hibana> hi Cryterion
[14:06] <Cryterion> I know the first one
[14:07] <inetpro> Warning: Electricity usage is too high. Reduce your electricity usage now. Switch off all lights you don't need, the geyser, pool pump and all non-essential appliances.
[14:07] <Cryterion> Nice graph they have on poweralert
[14:08] <Kilos> sjoe and the sun isnt even down yet
[14:08] <inetpro> the graph turns black when there is loadshedding
[14:12] <Cryterion> lol
[14:12]  * hibana goes back to sleep mode
[14:13] <Kilos> ty hibana
[14:13] <MaNI> I think most people interpret that as "Warning: we are going to shed you later on, so turn on everything you can right now so that you can get things done wihle you still have power"
[14:13] <Kilos> lol
[14:15] <inetpro> MaNI: what's the solution?
[14:15] <MaNI> that whole power usage warning thing is anyway just a propaganda tool to try make people feel like they are somehow to blame for this mess
[14:15] <inetpro> ai!
[14:15] <Kilos> hahaha
[14:16] <MaNI> the proper solution is probably a good old fashioned riot followed by some beheadings :/
[14:17] <inetpro> eish!
[14:17] <Kilos> lol
[14:17] <MaNI> french revolution style
[14:17] <Kilos> shorten them a little
[14:17] <MaNI> put zuma in his fire pool and see if he can swim
[14:17] <Kilos> louis 16
[14:18] <Kilos> 1789
[14:18] <MaNI> short of that, start producing your own power :p
[14:18] <MaNI> its what everyone who can afford to will do
[14:18] <inetpro> wish it was that simple
[14:19] <Cryterion> Read one I'm trying to find again where it says solar panels are depleting the sun of energy
[14:19] <Kilos> lol
[14:19] <inetpro> sjoe
[14:20] <MaNI> heh, good it will combat global warming then :p
[14:21] <Cryterion> http://nationalreport.net/solar-panels-drain-suns-energy-experts-say/
[14:21] <MaNI> was half expecting the onion
[14:22] <MaNI> Seriously though I wonder if Eskom haven't already triggered an avalanche that can't be stopped. Small amount of customers paying the bills for larger amount of customers, increase prices, some of the paying customers jump ship to solar, increase prices more, more customers jump ship etc. eventually they won't have any 'rich' customers to subsidize the poor ones
[14:22] <Kilos> what a lot of balderdash
[14:23] <Cryterion> But it does deplete the sun, the sun will deplete anyway even if we don't capture the energy
[14:23] <Kilos> correct
[14:24] <Kilos> the rays they catch left the sun a loooong time ago
[14:24] <Cryterion> That link wasn't the one I was looking for, a hoax, but funny in it's own right, as it declare in like 50years
[14:25] <inetpro> MaNI: serious snowball consequences
[14:26] <Cryterion> Approx 8mins Kilos
[14:26] <Kilos> however long it left there, and at what speed
[14:27] <Kilos> it left on its own, not by attraction from us
[14:27] <Cryterion> true
[14:28] <MaNI> if light behaves like an electric circuit it could have some merit, but I have my doubts :p
[14:28] <Cryterion> If all nuclear weapons on the planet went off together, it would nothing compared to a SME
[14:29] <Kilos> would hurt a bit though
[14:29] <Cryterion> Light is an energy
[14:29] <Cryterion> Yip
[14:31] <inetpro> Kilos: it takes sunlight an average of 8 minutes and 20 seconds to travel from the Sun to Earth
[14:31] <Kilos> speed?
[14:31] <Kilos> very fast imo
[14:31] <Kilos> is it light speed or more
[14:32] <MaNI> lol
[14:37] <inetpro> what is it that provides energy to solar panels?
[14:37] <Kilos> light
[14:37] <Kilos> i8m sure your can drive them with strong lamps
[14:37] <Kilos> i am
[14:38] <Cryterion> http://www.liberaltimes.com.au/2014/09/abbott-warns-solar-power-will-destroy-sun/
[14:38] <Cryterion> there it is
[14:38] <MaNI> lol
[14:39] <Kilos> and these kinds of peeps lead govts
[14:39] <Cryterion> Kilos: light travels at approx 384000m/s (That being x-ray,gamma, uv, visible, and infrared
[14:40] <Kilos> ty Cryterion
[14:40] <Cryterion> np
[14:43] <Kilos> thats 384 ks per sec roght?
[14:43] <Kilos> right
[14:44] <inetpro> ks = km ?
[14:44] <Kilos> ya
[14:44] <Kilos> kays
[14:44] <inetpro> ai!
[14:44] <Kilos> thats 400 kilos per sec
[14:45] <Kilos> nono rethink
[14:45] <Kilos> no i think thats i
[14:45] <Kilos> t
[14:46]  * Kilos must go ask my school for my money back
[14:47] <inetpro> Kilos: 384,000 meters per second = 384 km per second
[14:47] <inetpro> gremble: wb
[14:47] <gremble> Hey inetpro
[14:47] <gremble> He Kilos
[14:47] <gremble> hey*
[14:48] <Kilos> oh ya i added the 20 secs
[14:48] <Kilos> sigh
[14:48] <gremble> o/ everyone else
[14:48] <Kilos> hi gremble
[14:48] <gremble> What are you measuring that goes that fast?
[14:48] <Kilos> stupid head stole the 20 secs from 8 min 20 secs
[14:48] <Kilos> ai!
[14:48] <Kilos> light from sol
[14:49] <gremble> Is that what we are calling the sun now?
[14:49] <Kilos> no man i did
[14:49] <Kilos> dunno where it came from
[14:49] <gremble> :p
[14:49] <gremble> Sol is not incorrect. Just odd
[14:49] <Kilos> hasnt it been called sol somewhere
[14:50] <Cryterion> 299792458 metres per second
[14:50] <gremble> They call the years on mars Sol
[14:50] <Cryterion> My mistake
[14:50] <Cryterion> that's light speed btw
[14:50] <gremble> I just know it as c
[14:50] <gremble> because I'm lazy
[14:50] <Cryterion> Days on Mars are called sol
[14:50] <gremble> Days, yes sorry
[14:51] <gremble> It's good that I am not an astronomer
[14:51] <Kilos> Maaz  google what is sol
[14:51] <Maaz> Kilos: "Urban Dictionary: SOL" http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SOL :: "What does SOL stand for? - Abbreviations.com" http://www.abbreviations.com/sol :: "SOL - Definition by AcronymFinder" http://www.acronymfinder.com/SOL.html :: "SOL - What does SOL stand for?" http://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SOL :: "Sol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"
[14:51] <Maaz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol :: "Standards of Learning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedi…
[14:51] <Kilos> hahaha
[14:52] <gremble> Kilos: https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Sol
[14:52] <gremble> "Latin name for the Sun"
[14:52] <Kilos> ha i may be stupid but im not a fool
[15:10] <Cryterion> Maaz: Where is Curiosity
[15:10] <Maaz> Cryterion: Erk, dunno
[15:11] <Kilos> who is that?
[15:11] <Kilos> oh
[15:11] <Kilos> the cat killer
[15:19] <gremble> Rover on Mars
[15:19] <Kilos> ah
[16:12] <georgelappies> hi all
[16:12] <Kilos> hi georgelappies
[17:15] <mazal> Hi
[17:16] <Cryterion> Heya
[17:17] <mazal> Safely back Cryterion ?
[17:17] <Cryterion> Yeah
[17:18] <mazal> Good :) I just caught bits of flights and all
[17:19] <Cryterion> Lol, was only out overnight
[17:27] <Kilos> ai! 15°c max tomorrow
[17:28] <Kilos> ct as well
[17:38] <gremble> Bleh. I got bored and shaved my head. I should not have done that in wintertime
[17:38] <Kilos> lol
[17:38] <Kilos> i also keep my winter woolies on till it warms up
[17:38] <Kilos> i dont get bored
[17:39] <Kilos> thats a clever peeps prob
[17:39] <gremble> Boredome sucks
[17:39] <gremble> I find ingenous ways to injure myself when I am bored
[17:40] <Kilos> play freecell or mahjong
[17:40] <gremble> That is not stimulating
[17:40] <Kilos> now you gotta wear a beanie
[17:40] <gremble> I need to find one
[17:40] <gremble> But that I'll do tomorrow after my exam
[17:41] <Kilos> good luck
[17:41] <Kilos> study man
[17:41] <Kilos> or something constructive
[17:41] <gremble> Yes. I am at home again
[17:42] <gremble> So things to do
[17:42] <gremble> I was house sitting and ran out of internet
[17:42] <gremble> So not much to do
[17:42] <Kilos> aha
[18:21] <gremble> Tomorrow is my final exam
[18:21] <gremble> then I can do fun things for an entire month
[18:21] <Kilos> lol
[18:25] <Kilos> i go sleep , keep warm all, and sleep tight
[18:27] <gremble> Cheers
[18:27] <inetpro> ai!
[18:57] <magespawn> good evening
[18:57] <inetpro> wb magespawn
[19:17] <inetpro> MaNI: eish!
[19:17] <inetpro> This alarming electricity graph should worry all South Africans http://mybroadband.co.za/news/energy/128976-this-alarming-electricity-graph-should-worry-all-south-africans.html
[19:18] <MaNI> mm
[19:18] <MaNI> hope my panels arrive in time :p
[19:19] <inetpro> in a way confirming what you said this afternoon
[19:20] <MaNI> "Yelland said Eskom’s poor communication with the public and customers and the reduction in operational transparency is worrying." - indeed, this is what worries me the most, instead of acting like adults and being open about the problem they keep making crazy promises and geting caught in lies
[19:21] <MaNI> I mean what insanity possessed them to try claim there would be no load shedding this winter
[19:32] <magespawn> when did they say that?
[19:34] <MaNI> a few weeks ago
[19:35] <magespawn> hmm one would have thought that people would learn to just keep their mouths shut
[19:35] <MaNI> yeah
[19:35] <MaNI> crises management step 1, lower peoples expectations and then over deliver
[19:35] <MaNI> regain trust, don't dig the hole even deeper :p
[19:36] <magespawn> if you find yourself in a hole, stop digging, not dig faster
[19:40] <magespawn> so basically the demand has gone down, and eskom still can't keep up
[19:40] <magespawn> and now they want to tell us less about what is happening
[19:41] <magespawn> animal farm, 1984, and anything else that i cannot think of at the moment
[19:45] <MaNI> yeah, we are producing less power than we were 5 years ago, this is the worst part of it all :p
[19:45] <magespawn> just read this too http://mybroadband.co.za/news/energy/128218-your-10-questions-on-eskom-answered.html
[19:50] <magespawn> time for my bed, good night all
[20:03] <gremble> I should get a hobby that does not require electricity
[20:03] <gremble> :x
[20:05] <Cryterion> http://www.biznews.com/thought-leaders/2015/06/01/andrew-donaldson-asking-rw-johnson-why-sa-only-has-two-years-left/
[20:06] <Cryterion> add that to the eskom/gov bit
[20:11] <MaNI> interesting
[20:20] <gremble> Night fellas
[20:21] <smile> Hi :)
[20:35] <Cryterion> Heya smile
[20:37] <smile> Hi :)
[20:37] <Cryterion> how you doing
[20:37] <smile> Good :) you?
[20:38] <Cryterion> All gud, close time for bed though
[20:38] <Cryterion> Just bouncing around Irc before I go sleep
[20:41] <smile> :)
[20:41] <smile> Same
[20:47] <Cryterion> Night everyone
[20:48] <smile> Good night
[21:16] <smile> Slaapwel :)


[22:56] <LLStarks> bryceh, what's the diff between raof and glasen's solutions for i8xx?
[22:59] <LLStarks> err, cwillu's solution
[23:00] <cwillu> I have a solution?
[23:00] <cwillu> (my solution was to buy an nvidia, and use nouveau :p)
[23:01] <LLStarks> i'd do that too, but everything's optimus
[23:02] <LLStarks> anyway, i meant chris wilson (ickle), not you. <__<
[23:03] <cwillu> yes, figured there was a missing cw<tab> in here


[06:29] <StevenK> iharness loves me not: ImportError: No module named ipapi
[06:37] <wgrant> StevenK: I may have broken that last week
[06:37] <wgrant> Yeah, looks like it
[07:15] <wgrant> StevenK: iharness is fixed
[07:31] <StevenK> wgrant: Oh, your upgrade carnage caused it?
[07:32] <wgrant> Yes
[07:32] <wgrant> IPython 0.11 changed the API that we used


[18:22] <bmk789> im having problems with video playback on my HP dv2660se, any suggestions?
[18:23] <bmk789> seems like the video driver


[03:07] <ljj-justin> hi all,  bonding don't work on my ubuntu(precise) server
[06:33] <freedomrun_> help, can`t report bugs anymore! reinstalling apport doesn`t help, does anyone knows how to reactivate this functionality??
[12:58] <hggdh> freedomrun: if these are crash reports, we do not directly report a bug anymore, the crash report is sent to a site that collects them
[13:08] <freedomrun> hggdh, you mean from /var/crash .. it that why for some there is a state *.uploaded? (and I know I didn`t filled bug report)
[13:29] <hggdh> freedomrun: yes indeed
[13:39] <freedomrun> hggdh, ah I got it "name".uploaded is just a ref that it is already uploaded but everything is written in "name".crash .. but where are they uploaded can I see my error reports I cannot find them all in my launchpad??
[13:40] <TheLordOfTime> freedomrun: go look under your profile for bug reports
[13:40] <hggdh> it is not a bug report, it is a crash report
[13:41] <TheLordOfTime> ah...
[13:41] <hggdh> they are all uploaded to https://errors.ubuntu.com; access is controlled
[13:41] <TheLordOfTime> hggwait, you mean its not getting uploaded as a crash bug?
[13:41] <TheLordOfTime> ahhhhh
[13:41] <TheLordOfTime> i see.
[13:41] <TheLordOfTime> that's one of those restricted pages :)
[13:41] <hggdh> yes, I am afraid. Bug Control has access to it
[13:41] <freedomrun> oh
[13:42] <hggdh> and maintainers also. It is expected that maintainers will look there, and open bugs as needed
[13:42] <TheLordOfTime> indeed.
[13:44] <freedomrun> and I guess that can be controlled under control panel --> Privacy --> Diagnostic
[13:46] <hggdh> now, about that I do not know. I see no such path on my laptop
[13:46] <freedomrun> not shure this is better than apport way where user could help dev by describing the problem
[13:47] <TheLordOfTime> but then, if it were filed as a crash bug, it'd be privatized and then nobody could see it until private information is purged.
[13:48] <hggdh> also that, yes.
[13:48] <TheLordOfTime> crash bugs contain personal information on occasion, or rather "private information", so...
[13:48] <TheLordOfTime> regardless of the method used to report the crash, its privatized
[13:48] <TheLordOfTime> either for bugcontrol or devteam
[13:48] <hggdh> a gdb 'thread apply all bt full' can contain a lot of private data
[13:48] <TheLordOfTime> ^ that