[07:45] <sEbaKiLLeR> mozilla is not based in netscape!!!
[07:45] <qalimas> The #wormux channel is dead, anyone here I can talk to generally about the game?
[07:46] <sesstreets> Also...I noticed that both firefox and thunderbird have larger file sizes then their windows counter parts
[07:46] <sesstreets> how come?
[07:46] <ferronica_> hi room
[07:46] <nbound> sEbaKiLLeR, well they have the same development team or something
[07:46] <sesstreets> ferronica, HI
[07:46] <sEbaKiLLeR> mozilla is not like netscape
[07:46] <sesstreets> its based on netscape
[07:46] <etmnt> indeed
[07:46] <sEbaKiLLeR> netscape has copied the GUI
[07:46] <onthost> mozilla was the open source spinoff of netscape
[07:46] <etmnt> built off gecko
[07:46] <sesstreets> Yea
[07:46] <nbound> thank you sesstreets
[07:46] <etmnt> netscape was out before mozilla
[07:47] <sesstreets> I think netscape used gecko
[07:47] <ferronica_> help me......
[07:47] <sEbaKiLLeR> look the first mozilla and tell me
[07:47] <sesstreets> ferronica, whats wrong?
[07:47] <etmnt> opera is also built on older versions of gecko
[07:47] <onthost> The Mozilla project's launch by Netscape in 199
[07:47] <sesstreets> but tweaked*
[07:47] <onthost> it is a netscape project
[07:47] <|main|> opera isnt built on gecko
[07:47] <onthost> http://www.mozilla.org/about/
[07:47] <sesstreets> Yes it is
[07:47] <etmnt> indeed
[07:47] <sesstreets> or is it...
[07:47] <sesstreets> wait ill check
[07:48] <sesstreets> im thinkin that opera uses msies engine
[07:48] <|main|> opera 100% is not gecko.
[07:48] <|main|> because gecko is the worst engine there is
[07:48] <etmnt> no it's not msies
[07:48] <|main|> the slowest, and the biggest.
[07:48] <orbin> #ubuntu-offtopic please guys
[07:49] <nbound> orbin, oh cmon its a slow day in here
[07:49] <IceTox> thanks orbin.. I don't even know why I didn't think of that.. *blushes*
[07:49] <etmnt> you're wrong. Opera's base is Mozilla (1.4) Gecko
[07:49] <echo>  anyone know how to create icons on a fluxbox desktop?
[07:49] <etmnt> and it was taken out of the project eaely, so it's actually and older version of Gecko
[07:49] <etmnt> that's why it doesn't support CSS3
[07:50] <orbin> nbound: yes, but i can already see it's gonna generate into a browser war
[07:50] <IceTox> Ohzie, now I remember.. there was no manual for it orbin :-)
[07:50] <etmnt> lol
[07:50] <Madpilot> etmnt, um, no. And Opera 9 supports bits of CSS3, as well
[07:50] <orbin> s/generate/degenerate
[07:50] <IceTox> sorry Ohzie
[07:50] <etmnt> I haven't tried 9
[07:50] <Ohzie> You use xchat. ;D
[07:50] <|main|> so you re gonna say embedded opera uses gecko?
[07:50] <ferronica_> help
[07:50] <orbin> IceTox: any docs in /usr/share/doc?
[07:50] <ferronica_> nbound???
[07:51] <ferronica_> nbound: where r u?
[07:51] <etmnt> not sure about Opera9
[07:51] <etmnt> everything before it is built off early Gecko (1.4)
[07:51] <|main|> when was gecko 1.4 released?
[07:52] <Madpilot> etmnt, #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to keep talking about browsers, please
[07:52] <etmnt> I'm there ;)
[07:52] <lazyboy> vortex1 soundcard im not finding much about drivers
[07:52] <ferronica_> nbound: help
[07:52] <ferronica_> i can't boot XP from grub
[07:53] <ferronica_> nbound: i can't boot XP from grub
[07:53] <sEbaKiLLeR> that s really a problem
[07:53] <sEbaKiLLeR> do u have any important document?
[07:53] <IceTox> Nope, not at all orbin.. I'll trace back that website though.. All I know, I got that xmms thingie from apt-get install
[07:54] <ferronica_> i can't boot XP from grub
[07:54] <ferronica_> help me
[07:54] <ferronica_> any one free here to help me
[07:54] <pypcjs> install grub??
[07:54] <thatGuy_> !bcm43xx
[07:54] <sEbaKiLLeR> ferronica_ do u have any important doc there?
[07:54] <ubotu> To use your broadcom or airport extreme card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx for info and firmware.
[07:54] <ferronica_> what?
[07:54] <ferronica_> where??
[07:54] <sEbaKiLLeR> in windows?
[07:55] <ferronica_> in Xp?
[07:55] <ferronica_> yes yes
[07:55] <ferronica_> yes yes
[07:55] <pypcjs> how install xmms2
[07:56] <sEbaKiLLeR> ferronica_ star nautilus as root
[07:56] <ferronica_> sEbakiller: yes
[07:56] <Ohzie> pypcjs: Load up synaptic
[07:56] <Ohzie> And search for xmms
[07:56] <ferronica_> sEbakiller: what?
[07:56] <Ohzie> Checkbox, apply, and you're done. :D
[07:56] <sEbaKiLLeR> ferronica_ in a console write: sudo nautilus
[07:57] <intelikey> no use gksudo nautilus
[07:57] <intelikey> sEbaKiLLeR you going to walk him through gnome not starting because of the command ?
[07:59] <intelikey> gksudo will protect the authoruty files in ~   sudo will let root own them then the next login gnome will fail to load....
[07:59] <sEbaKiLLeR> i think that it cant start because it isnt bad configured
[07:59] <ferronica> sEbakiller; whai do
[08:00] <intelikey> use  gksudo  to start nautilus   not sudo.
[08:00] <ferronica> sEbakiller; what i do???
[08:00] <intelikey> !gksudo
[08:00] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[08:01] <ferronica> i hav 3 HDD
[08:01] <ferronica> two IDE and one sata
[08:01] <sEbaKiLLeR> goto /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:01] <ferronica> in sata XP,IDE ubuntu
[08:01] <thatGuy_> HEY YALLL
[08:01] <thatGuy_> FINALLY
[08:01] <thatGuy_> sry about the caps
[08:01] <onephatmind> hey guys
[08:01] <thatGuy_> but it took all day!!!!!
[08:01] <thatGuy_> and i finally got it
[08:01] <thatGuy_> FINALLY got the bcm4306 working
[08:01] <onephatmind> has anybody set up win xp under xen ib ubuntu 6?
[08:01] <thatGuy_> clap it up for #ubuntu
[08:01] <sEbaKiLLeR> ferronica ?
[08:01] <thatGuy_> it was all you guys
[08:01] <thatGuy_> couldnt have done it without you
[08:02] <thatGuy_> lol
[08:02] <ferronica> ok menulist opened
[08:02] <Madpilot> orbin, there's an #ubuntu-au channel
[08:02] <ferronica> sEbakiller: what to do here
[08:03] <sEbaKiLLeR> ferronica look for the line title Windows Xp
[08:03] <blmartin777> How do I get wpasupplicant to work with Dapper?
[08:03] <blmartin777> please
[08:04] <ferronica> sEbakiller: in bottom
[08:04] <sEbaKiLLeR> ferronica wat says in root?
[08:05] <ferronica> sEbakiller: this entry automatically added in the debian installer
[08:05] <orbin> Madpilot: yes, in there now. cheers. :)
[08:06] <ferronica> sEbakiller; title  microsoft win Xp
[08:06] <sEbaKiLLeR> ferronica wat else?
[08:06] <ferronica> rootnoverify         (hd2,0)
[08:07] <ferronica> savedefault
[08:07] <ferronica> makeactive
[08:07] <ferronica> map                (hd0) (hd2)
[08:07] <ferronica> map                (hd2) (hd0)
[08:07] <ferronica> chainloader        +1
[08:07] <ferronica> sEbakiller: my Xp is in SATA
[08:07] <sEbaKiLLeR> ferronica do u have windows before installing linux?
[08:08] <ferronica> sEbakiller: i installed linux  after installing Xp
[08:08] <sEbaKiLLeR> ferronica have u moved any partition?
[08:08] <Wo|f> Anyone have a copy of install_flash_player_7_linux.tar.gz mirrored anywhere?
[08:08] <ferronica> sEbakiller: like?
[08:09] <ferronica> sEbakiller: i did nothing
[08:09] <tiglionabbit> Wo|f: can't you get it from macromedia.com ?
[08:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Wo|f: http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[08:09] <sEbaKiLLeR> do u have xp and linux in separated hards?
[08:09] <ferronica> sEbakiller: just installed ubuntu
[08:09] <Wo|f> tiglionabbit: Nope.
[08:09] <blindx> I have a folder, my music folder.. with folders like Artist (Album (songs))... i just copied everything in this folder and when I try to chmod them (because the permissions are set to 444), it gives me "Argument list too long" -- any way to get around this?
[08:09] <ferronica> sEbakiller: yes seperate hdd
[08:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Wo|f: oh... n/m then
[08:09] <Wo|f> PuMpErNiCkLe : I know what the URL for it is, thank you. I need a mirror, as the server isn't available.
[08:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Wo|f: It's working for me.
[08:10] <Wo|f> I'm having some kind of DNS issues with my provider
[08:10] <ferronica> sEbakiller: Is there any problem???
[08:10] <sEbaKiLLeR> ferronica
[08:10] <Wo|f> popped out to a shell, but I'm over my Web quota
[08:10] <ferronica> sEbakiller: yes?
[08:10] <sEbaKiLLeR> ferronica how many discs do u have?
[08:11] <ferronica> sEbakiller: i hav 3 HDD
[08:11] <Wo|f> I'll give it another try from here
[08:11] <Wo|f> thanks anyhow
[08:12] <sEbaKiLLeR> ferronica wat says at line root in ubuntu?
[08:12] <ferronica> sEbakiller: One sata two IDE
[08:12] <ferronica> sEbakiller: in sata XP and IDE channel 0 ubuntu
[08:12] <ferronica> sEbakiller: where is line root?
[08:12] <onthost> I need help installing ubuntu on a oldworld mac, any ppc people here?
[08:12] <sEbaKiLLeR> in the file menu.lst
[08:13] <ferronica> sEbakiller: ????
[08:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> onthost: iirc from about a year ago, Ubuntu doesn't work so well with ppc
[08:13] <ferronica> sEbakiller: in bottom
[08:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> onthost: oldworld ppc, I mean
[08:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> onthost: You may be able to get it to work using a MacOS installation + BootX
[08:14] <onthost> pumpernickle: ya i found that out, ive gotton as far as the reboot, and i get thrown to a shell with a error about evms
[08:14] <sEbaKiLLeR> where says: title ubuntu, kernel...
[08:14] <skpl> can someone help me? i have java enabled in my browser which would lead me to believe that it is installed coereectly however when i try to load a java client firefox says it is missing the plugin
[08:14] <onthost> it says /sbin/evms not found
[08:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hm
[08:15] <onthost> i am brand new to ubuntu, i am a big freebsd geek, but ubuntu is suposted to be easier to install on old world macs
[08:15] <onthost> Ive followed the instructions on the ubuntu wiki to the T
[08:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> not so much - I think YellowDog was the best for it
[08:16] <ferronica> sEbakiller: # title                Linux
[08:16] <ferronica> # root                (hd0,1)
[08:16] <ferronica> # kernel        /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
[08:16] <onthost> really.....
[08:16] <ferronica> this one
[08:16] <onthost> ill give it a try if this wont work
[08:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> At least until version 3 they had official support for oldworld macs, and in version 4 BenH set up some kernels separately that would work.
[08:16] <ferronica> title                Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-9-386
[08:17] <ferronica> root                (hd0,0)
[08:17] <ferronica> sEbakille: now got
[08:17] <onthost> PuMpErNiCkLe: where could i find these kernels? maybe is it just a matter of using a different kernal
[08:17] <pip> hello
[08:17] <sEbaKiLLeR> guarda una copia del documento menu.lst
[08:18] <ferronica> sEbakille: hello
[08:18] <ferronica> sEbakille: got ??
[08:18] <sEbaKiLLeR> ya
[08:18] <ferronica> sEbakilleR: got ??
[08:19] <sEbaKiLLeR> doc saved?
[08:19] <ferronica> sEbakilleR: Ok
[08:19] <pip> I need help! why is there so much promiscuity characters on webpages when I browser with Firefox?
[08:19] <ferronica> sEbakilleR: now what i do??
[08:19] <sEbaKiLLeR> now change the line rootnoverify (hd2,0) to root (hd1,0)
[08:20] <monsterb> When Dapper is released will I have to do a fresh install?  or can I update 5.10??
[08:20] <sEbaKiLLeR> in the part of windows
[08:21] <Madpilot> monsterb, you can update from 5.10
[08:21] <ferronica> sEbakilleR: its better to paste
[08:21] <ferronica> and u read it all
[08:21] <ferronica> give me the link of paste bin
[08:21] <sEbaKiLLeR> send me the file
[08:21] <Madpilot> !pastebin
[08:21] <ubotu> well, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[08:21] <fen> i realise this question has probably been asked a million times, but why is azureus not in the repository? is it not O/S?
[08:21] <ferronica> link
[08:21] <monsterb> Madpilot: thats good - thx
[08:21] <Madpilot> ferronica, see what ubotu posted above ^^^
[08:22] <ferronica> did
[08:23] <ferronica> pasted
[08:23] <sEbaKiLLeR> where?
[08:23] <Madpilot> ferronica, now paste your pastebin URL here
[08:24] <ferronica> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12763
[08:24] <skpl> can someone help me with installing java in ubuntu?
[08:24] <skpl> actually i already installed it and have enabled it in my browser but it is not working
[08:24] <etmnt> try installig through automatix?
[08:24] <skpl> no
[08:24] <etmnt> try it
[08:24] <skpl> what is it
[08:25] <Madpilot> !+automatix
[08:25] <etmnt> something that can install it auto for you
[08:25] <ubotu> automatix is, like, totally, unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[08:25] <etmnt> along with firefox
[08:25] <skpl> !easyubuntu
[08:25] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[08:25] <skpl> does not sound so safe either
[08:25] <skpl> i have installed it using this method before
[08:25] <skpl> for some reason it did not work this time
[08:26] <ferronica> sEbakilleR: something missed in that i think
[08:26] <etmnt> try again, it's pretty easy and just a script, no reason it shouldn't work for you
[08:26] <ferronica> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12764
[08:26] <ferronica> open this one
[08:27] <ferronica> sEbakilleR: open this one,previous one i missed some line
[08:27] <sEbaKiLLeR> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12765
[08:27] <vixenk> MSG chaosstartripper
[08:27] <sEbaKiLLeR> save that
[08:27] <sEbaKiLLeR> and restart
[08:27] <ferronica> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12764
[08:27] <ferronica> open this one
[08:28] <taavi> exit
[08:28] <monsterb> skpl: i just installed java and it set up firefox to use it. https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/breezy   search for j2re
[08:29] <vixenk> MSG DarkS7ar heya baby
[08:29] <sEbaKiLLeR> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12766
[08:29] <vixenk> MSG DarkS7ar Download:
[08:29] <vixenk> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=24ERAMPK
[08:29] <vixenk> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=7WQ3AIR8
[08:29] <vixenk> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9RUGL2IA
[08:29] <vixenk> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=EHO8SP8E
[08:29] <vixenk> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=ET8O8Q66
[08:29] <vixenk> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=A7N8MDF7
[08:29] <vixenk> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FA1V3K20
[08:29] <vixenk> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=10HJQ272
[08:29] <vixenk> http://www.megaupload.com/?d=6PJD9OG2
[08:29] <vixenk> OR
[08:29] <PwcrLinux> !op
[08:29] <vixenk> http://www.sendspace.com/file/zb1ozg
[08:29] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, PwcrLinux
[08:30] <vixenk> OR
[08:30] <PwcrLinux> !ops
[08:30] <vixenk> http://rapidshare.de/files/7379616/4RGZ-SMC4SF.part1.rar
[08:30] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[08:30] <vixenk> http://rapidshare.de/files/7379778/4RGZ-SMC4SF.part2.rar
[08:30] <vixenk> http://rapidshare.de/files/7379904/4RGZ-SMC4SF.part3.rar
[08:30] <vixenk> http://rapidshare.de/files/7380146/4RGZ-SMC4SF.part4.rar
[08:30] <vixenk> http://rapidshare.de/files/7380202/4RGZ-SMC4SF.part5.rar
[08:30] <vixenk> OR
[08:30] <PwcrLinux> Stop Flooding!
[08:30] <vixenk> http://www.filefactory.com/get/f.php?f=8f18d030d84ca260cb127a7b
[08:30] <vixenk> http://www.filefactory.com/get/f.php?f=77cbe7f1d197a1abf2e6b7ca
[08:30] <vixenk> http://www.filefactory.com/get/f.php?f=daa5ad964207dd23bf863fc4
[08:30] <sEbaKiLLeR> ferronica save this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12766
[08:30] <PwcrLinux> thanks :)
[08:31] <Hobbsee> ack.  that alias is screwed!
[08:31] <oldFart_> Im dualbooting ubuntu and windows and I would like to access some music that I have on my windows ntfs partition, would anyone dare to give me a hint?
[08:31] <DarkS7ar> Nalioth, bot or live admin?
[08:31] <nalioth_zZz> DarkS7ar: what?
[08:31] <orbin> ubotu: tell oldFart_ about ntfs
[08:31] <skpl> monsterb, that is an outdated version of java though
[08:31] <Hobbsee> right, it didnt save correctly the first time!
[08:31] <DarkS7ar> I was asking if you were a channel bot or a live admin
[08:31] <DarkS7ar> im gonna guess the latter? heh
[08:32] <nalioth_zZz> DarkS7ar: i'm an irritated user atm
[08:32] <alexcamilo> Hello, i have some questions about edubuntu but its kinda dead in that channel so i'm gonna ask here.
[08:32] <alexcamilo> I have some questions about edubuntu. Are there polish versions of the various applications/games? and what are the recommended specs for running edubuntu?
[08:32] <blindx> in the "mount" command, how do you specify filesystem
[08:32] <sEbaKiLLeR> ferronica do u have?
[08:32] <oldFart_> cool. mounting was done automatically in suse so I thought something was wrong :) Im glad nothing is
[08:32] <alexcamilo> Would a 650mhz intel celeron cpu and 160mb of ram suffice?
[08:32] <DarkS7ar> Interesting... anyone can ban anyone here?
[08:33] <nalioth_zZz> DarkS7ar: join me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:33] <blindx> in the "mount" command, how do you specify filesystem
[08:33] <ferronica_> r u there
[08:34] <Madpilot> DarkS7ar, no, but the ops don't spend all their time op'd here
[08:34] <sEbaKiLLeR> ferronica yes
[08:34] <DarkS7ar> Well, someone was just banned because of me... didnt really think it was fair.. wanted to explain.
[08:34] <ferronica_> which one to use
[08:34] <ferronica_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12766
[08:34] <sEbaKiLLeR> ferronica http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12766
[08:34] <ferronica_> this link???
[08:34] <sEbaKiLLeR> ya
[08:34] <ferronica_> what u changed
[08:34] <PwcrLinux> bbl in an hour or so
[08:35] <ferronica_> rootverify to root
[08:35] <ferronica_> bottom
[08:35] <ferronica_> seBaKilleR: Is it?
[08:35] <alexcamilo> i know the GUI can come in polish. but its kinda pointless if the apps are in english.
[08:35] <dksite> does the new gnome,2.14 draw black rectangles when minimizing?
[08:36] <Snake__> dksite: yes
[08:36] <sEbaKiLLeR> ferronica ya
[08:36] <dksite> thanks
[08:36] <Snake__> np
[08:36] <Snake__> :)
[08:36] <dksite> do u like them
[08:36] <Snake__> dksite: ehhh no prefrence. dont mind them with or without
[08:36] <ferronica_> seBaKilleR: but u told me to change hd2,0 to hd1,0
[08:37] <alexcamilo> can anyone hear me? did i register correctly?
[08:37] <ferronica_> seBaKilleR: if something gose wrong then?
[08:37] <Madpilot> alexcamilo, welcome to Ubuntu
[08:37] <alexcamilo> ok cool. i think some of the stuff i previously said didn't go through cause i just noticed the topic. XD.
[08:38] <sEbaKiLLeR> ferronica u can enter linux again
[08:38] <alexcamilo> Hello, i have some questions about edubuntu but its kinda dead in that channel so i'm gonna ask here. I have some questions about edubuntu. Are there polish versions of the various applications/games? and what are the recommended specs for running edubuntu? Would a 650mhz intel celeron cpu and 160mb of ram suffice?
[08:39] <onephatmind> hello; how would i go about creating a link to a directory, as in /c linking to /dev/sda6; ln -fs /dev/sda6 /c didn't quite work
[08:40] <will_> hiyas
[08:40] <Zlow> onephatmind: put it in your fstab
[08:40] <lsuactiafner> !allow
[08:40] <ubotu> lsuactiafner: I give up. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:40] <will_> whats the terminal command for delete please ???   'not del like winblows
[08:40] <Madpilot> will_, rm
[08:40] <onephatmind> i really wanted to keep it mounted to /dev/sda6 but also link to it with /c
[08:40] <will_> thanks
[08:40] <SleepySocks> hi everyone..quick question on vmware
[08:40] <lsuactiafner> i want to allow users to use the disks mounted for which there are icons on the desktop.. whats the link?
[08:40] <lsuactiafner> !fstab
[08:40] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[08:41] <SleepySocks> anyone here use it?
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> alexcamilo: I would suggest more ram; but it should run fine -- a bit sluggish if at times. I am sorry, but I don't know about the translation part.
[08:41] <damian__> hi how do i set a program/command to gnomes startup?
[08:41] <will_> Madpilot   rm folder ??
[08:41] <SleepySocks> i'm trying to confirm that I have vmware-tools running
[08:41] <Snake__> will_: rm -r
[08:41] <Snake__> will_: rm = remove -r = recursivly
[08:41] <will_> ahh ta
[08:41] <alexcamilo> how hard would it be to translate it myself? is the stuff stored in an XML document somewhere?
[08:41] <will_> thanks man
[08:41] <fyrestrtr> !Bash
[08:41] <ubotu> For a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[08:42] <ferro> seba
[08:42] <damian__> SleepySocks: Tigerx86....lol
[08:42] <ferro> r u there???
[08:42] <grig> stie cineva romana?
[08:42] <onephatmind> damian: settings -> session -> start up apps..
[08:42] <damian__> thanks
[08:42] <ferro> u know what r u going to do wid my ubuntu
[08:42] <SleepySocks> Tigerx86????
[08:42] <onephatmind> is there really no way to create a link to a directory?
[08:43] <Snake__> onephatmind: symlink.
[08:43] <Snake__> probly
[08:43] <SleepySocks> anyone here ever installed vmware-tools (ubuntu as a guest)
[08:43] <Snake__> onephatmind: give me a minute, ill figure out a command
[08:43] <damian__> lol the new macos has been cracked to run on any intel pc not just the new intelmacs everyone seems to be downloading the vmware image of it lately and trying to run it
[08:43] <jdmpike> hello
[08:43] <onephatmind> Snake__, thanks a bunch to answering but if you mean ls -s it did not work..
[08:43] <jdmpike> does anyone in here have their pc hooked up to an HDTV?
[08:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> damian__: It's been cracked or pirated since the developer macs came out.
[08:44] <damian__> i only just found out...
[08:44] <arun> hello.. is it possible to set the environmental variables permanently.. unlike per terminal setting..
[08:44] <SleepySocks> oh, so people are trying to get osx running withing vmware
[08:44] <onephatmind> Snke, for answering**;)
[08:44] <Snake__> onephatmind: what dirs
[08:44] <alexcamilo> tried osx86. was fun. had quad boot for a while b4 my plates crashed.
[08:44] <Snake__> onephatmind: what dirs are you working with
[08:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> damian__: Try it, it's a good OS. ^^
[08:44] <damian__> now if only i could find it:P
[08:44] <SleepySocks> I thought of trying that but been having a lot of fun with ubuntu
[08:44] <onephatmind> Snake__, i need /c linking to /dev/sda6
[08:44] <onephatmind> Snake__, sda6 is a vfat partition
[08:44] <damian__> yeah i will be
[08:45] <Madpilot> SleepySocks & damian__ - non-Ubuntu chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[08:45] <SleepySocks> vmware-tools is suppose to be running as a service, but i dont see it?
[08:45] <damian__> um
[08:45] <SleepySocks> ok madpilot
[08:45] <damian__> nah
[08:45] <will_> for OSX .... try a thing called   parralell workstation ... i think that's what its called ... i saw it advertised yesterday
[08:45] <damian__> i mean
[08:45] <damian__> ok
[08:45] <Snake__> onephatmind: ln -s /dev/sda6 /c
[08:45] <Snake__> onephatmind: try
[08:45] <alexcamilo> what is enough memory to run gnome well? 256?
[08:45] <will_> and the tigerx86 image can be installed to a fresh harddrive
[08:45] <damian__> will?
[08:46] <damian__> oh
[08:46] <will_> wont run well (if at all) under vmware
[08:46] <onephatmind> Snake__, i did; it creates a /c bit "cd /c" says it is not a directory
[08:46] <damian__> yeah reding up on that now
[08:46] <SleepySocks> alex it should be fine
[08:46] <Snake__> onephatmind: /c is already made right?
[08:46] <jdmpike> I can't get xorg.conf to output to my HDTV - during boot, it outputs 1920x1080i,  but then when x tries to start... it falls apart... anyone have this problem?
[08:46] <damian__> it does work fine theres a couple of things you need to turn off under vmwares settings
[08:46] <Snake__> onephatmind: when you "ls" in / theres a dir called "c" right?
[08:46] <SleepySocks> i run it under vmware with 256k and its quite snappy
[08:46] <damian__> apparently again havent tried it yet
[08:46] <onephatmind> Snake__, not a dir, a link
[08:46] <onephatmind> Snake__, u cant cd into it
[08:47] <alexcamilo> cool
[08:47] <will_> well didnt when i tried it ... but was 6 mnths ago ;0
[08:47] <will_> ;]
[08:47] <Snake__> onephatmind: you need to set up a dir first, then it forward /dev/sda6 to /c
[08:47] <SleepySocks> damian, I just want to ensure that the vmware driver service is running
[08:47] <SleepySocks> but I cant see the service using bum
[08:47] <SleepySocks> oops bum
[08:47] <ferro> help me
[08:47] <st3v3dnd> Is there a Human dark theme?
[08:47] <ferro> please
[08:47] <ferro> any one help me
[08:47] <ferro> here
[08:47] <onephatmind> Snake__, i tried that as well; then it create a weird /c/sda6 link which is not a dir;)
[08:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !anyone
[08:47] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[08:47] <will_> my other problem .... azureus run under XP fine ... port 46665 .... but not under ubuntu ....
[08:48] <Snake__> onephatmind: give me a moment to research
[08:48] <ferro> i cant boot my XP via ubuntu GRUB
[08:48] <onephatmind> Snake__, i appreciate this
[08:48] <damian__> SleepySocks: check your device manager within the installed os
[08:48] <sEbaKiLLeR> ferro didnt worked?
[08:48] <jdmpike> I can't get xorg.conf to output to my HDTV - during boot, it outputs 1920x1080i,  but then when x tries to start... it falls apart... not how it works with Windows...
[08:48] <onephatmind> ferro, is it listed at the grub menu?
[08:48] <ferro> nope
[08:48] <damian__> what os have you installed within vmware? ubuntu?
[08:48] <alexcamilo> i'm getting a laptop for my niece in poland. i'm a collage student so i'm stuck to hardware i can afford (old hardware). right now i'm looking at the gateway solo 1150. looks like a cute computer. they go for pretty cheep on ebay. anyone had any horrible experience with this model worth mentioning?
[08:48] <will_> damian__  yah ?
[08:48] <ferro> what XP
[08:48] <ferro> yes
[08:49] <ferro> but cant boot
[08:49] <onephatmind> ferro, which is it?
[08:49] <SleepySocks> damian, do you happen to know if its within the menus or is it a terminal command?
[08:49] <ferro> saying NTLDR missing
[08:49] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell alexcamilo about laptop
[08:49] <onephatmind> froo, sp it does boot it up only windows dies with a error right?
[08:49] <monsterb> !EasyUbuntu
[08:49] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[08:49] <Snake__> onephatmind: hmmm... this is akward
[08:49] <alexcamilo> oo shiny thanx!
[08:49] <SleepySocks> Im running winxp as a host and ubuntu as a guest
[08:49] <sEbaKiLLeR> ferro try to enter the partition with linux
[08:49] <Madpilot> alexcamilo, np
[08:49] <onephatmind> Snake__, weird right
[08:50] <lsuactiafner> !ati
[08:50] <ubotu> methinks ati is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=423589
[08:50] <ferro> where
[08:50] <SleepySocks> im running the latest dapper drake beta
[08:50] <damian__> SleepySocks: system->administration->device manager
[08:50] <ferro> i dont know abot linux tooo much
[08:50] <pvd2006> what is a good pdf viewer for ubuntu?
[08:50] <onephatmind> pvd2006, xpdf
[08:50] <lsuactiafner> how do i give users access to the various mounted disks?
[08:51] <Madpilot> pvd2006, Evince
[08:51] <sEbaKiLLeR> menu system/administrator/disks
[08:51] <onephatmind> lsuact..: umask is fstab
[08:51] <damian__> SleepySocks: check for the ethernet and display devices there names will include "vmware" in them if they have been installed correctly
[08:51] <lsuactiafner> thanks
[08:51] <pvd2006> Madpilot Evince gives me problems like, I can't copy test, and when I go over text it whites out the rest of the text.
[08:51] <onephatmind> np
[08:51] <SleepySocks> ok damian
[08:51] <damian__> SleepySocks: under vendor i think
[08:52] <Snake__> onephatmind: alright man, all you can do is make it so that you cd into a /c/sda6 (thats not alright why??)
[08:52] <pvd2006> text*
[08:52] <onephatmind> Snake__, thanks a lot man;  /c/sda6 is not a dir its a link too;)
[08:52] <Snake__> onephatmind: heres what I want you to do
[08:53] <Snake__> onephatmind: "sudo mkdir /c && ln -s /dev/sda6 && cd /c"
[08:53] <Madpilot> pvd2006, you can install Adobe Acrobat Reader - acroread - it's sometimes the best, although it's a giant bloated app...
[08:53] <ferro> didnt found....
[08:54] <grig> stie cineva romaneste?
[08:54] <onephatmind> Snake__, i did that before i asked the questionl it creates a link under /c/sda6;)
[08:54] <ferro> in menu.list
[08:54] <pvd2006> onephatmind, I don't see an option in xpdf to copy text
[08:54] <pvd2006> Is there one?
[08:54] <ferro> why i am unable to boot Xp
[08:54] <Snake__> onephatmind: so thats bad why?
[08:54] <onephatmind> pvd2006, madpilot is right, acroread is large but good
[08:55] <onephatmind> Snake__, because /c/sda6 is not a dir its a link; u cant cd into it
[08:55] <SleepySocks> damian:  I think i may be ok as I see a vmware-user process running from within the system monitor
[08:55] <Snake__> onephatmind: are you sure? I can... :)
[08:55] <onephatmind> Snake__, in a nutshell; /dev/sda6 is automounted to /media/sda6 oh shoot im a moron
[08:56] <Snake__> onephatmind: you could just make it mount to /c couldnt you?
[08:56] <SleepySocks> would that be a good indicator that vmware-tools drivers are working?
[08:56] <onephatmind> Snake__, i'm tryin gto ln a dir to a device (/dev/sda6 instead of /media/sda6)
[08:56] <onephatmind> haha
[08:56] <onephatmind> soryr man
[08:56] <Snake__> onephatmind: hmm yes that would make sense :)
[08:56] <MagnusGoldstein> got cinelerra working under amd64 breezy at last (by the looks)... hooray!
[08:56] <fid> before I install my new mouse and keyboard, does ubuntu have built in support for usb devices?   We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[08:59] <Snake__> ;)
[08:59] <pvd2006> I did sudo apt-get remove xpdf, but it still seems to run
[08:59] <fid> hehe my bad
[08:59] <Riko> what's a good program for unrar w/ ubuntu
[08:59] <Snake__> !rar
[08:59] <ubotu> it has been said that rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[08:59] <onephatmind> pccd, kill it
[08:59] <btaylor5619> Can someone here help me with an issue I am having?
[08:59] <alexcamilo> anyone know any good pcmcia modems that work under linux. any recomendations?
[08:59] <Snake__> Riko: ^^^
[08:59] <Riko> thx
[09:00] <fid> the custom gnome theme i'm doing is sweeet
[09:00] <onephatmind> holy
[09:00] <Draconicus> Are there any issues with dual layer DVDs in Ubuntu Breezy?
[09:00] <Snake__> onephatmind: holy = ?
[09:00] <Snake__> :)
[09:00] <onephatmind> Zend Studio hangs ans takes ages to close up
[09:00] <onephatmind> wgy is that so
[09:00] <btaylor5619> Now that I have installed "dgen," how do I go about executing the program?
[09:00] <onephatmind> never had that before
[09:00] <kev009> is xen going to make it into dapper?
[09:00] <Snake__> kev009: ill check
[09:00] <onephatmind> kevor, they promised
[09:01] <onephatmind> kev*;) didnt know how the kevor happened
[09:01] <pvd2006> I must be missing something, How do you completely remove a package from ubuntu? I use sudo apt-get remove xpdf and it said it removed but when I tpye in xpdf its still running, I tried running killall -9 xpdf and it said no process killed.
[09:01] <Snake__> kev009: xen-tools is here..
[09:01] <fid> alex, I haven't rocked a modem with linux for years, but I always went with usrobotics modems
[09:01] <onephatmind> pvd2006, then it is not running
[09:01] <Draconicus> I'm trying to get my friend onto Ubuntu, but he's backing up to dual-layer DVDs. Is there any reason why they wouldn't work?
[09:02] <Snake__> kev009: xengine as well
[09:02] <pvd2006> its not running
[09:02] <btaylor5619> !dgen
[09:02] <kev009> awesome, I've tried Fedora and OpenSuse but they suck.. I just want a good solid distro for servers where Gentoo is too much
[09:02] <ubotu> parse error: Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, btaylor5619
[09:02] <pvd2006> Im saying, it runs when I retype xpdf
[09:02] <onephatmind> pvd2006, try ps -e | grep -i pdf
[09:02] <mDot_Live> trying to merge two ext3 partitions on one physical drive, gparted doesn't appear to be able to do this.... any ideas
[09:02] <alexcamilo> correct me if i'm wrong. stay away from software modems?
[09:02] <Znort> G'morning people. Yesterday I started up my computer, and it checks the HD because it is the 30th time booting without check. All normal alday stuff. But then it detects an error and my whole booting process goes wrong. It sais a file is corrupt and that I should run fsck. So I run fsck, and it crashes again on the same file. Anybody any idea how I can avoid/solve this?
[09:03] <pvd2006> onephatmind, I have something called pdflush open
[09:03] <onephatmind> kevor, "they suck" seemds to be a major overstatement
[09:03] <Snake__> kev009: OpenSUSE aint bad :) not good for a server tho imho
[09:04] <onephatmind> it's been pretty syable in my experience
[09:04] <onephatmind> plus the ncurses yast helps out
[09:04] <onephatmind> and i am so sorry for the typos
[09:04] <pvd2006> ah its xpdf-reader
[09:05] <alexcamilo> i used debian and ubuntu on my "screw around and have fun servers" . nothing has gone horribly wrong. yet.
[09:05] <Therasim> Can someone tell me which process and package is associated with the logout/shutdown/restart/sleep/hibernate dialog in Dapper?  I want to submit a bug report for it.
[09:06] <Snake__> hmmmm great question Therasim ..
[09:06] <Therasim> Maybe someday Gnome will give us a menu editor so I can figure out what each menu item triggers.
[09:06] <onephatmind> alexcamilo, well debian is a given, but i am a little afraid to switch production boxes to ubuntu...
[09:07] <Therasim> Snake__, I have searched and looked all over the Ubuntu pages.  No joy.
[09:07] <Snake__> Therasim: dapper has a menu editor called alacarte (I dont know if its in breezy)
[09:07] <fid> hmm interesting works perfectly
[09:07] <Petskull> 'Evening
[09:07] <Therasim> Snake__, I will see if I can load it.
[09:07] <onephatmind> Therasin, ps it
[09:07] <fid> I should have opted for the wireless mouse but I wasn't sure if it would have worked
[09:07] <Therasim> onephatmind, I have
[09:07] <alexcamilo> i'm not cinfident in my abilities to do anything real important yet. right now i'm lernin. lol.
[09:07] <will_> im installing a deb file .... what was the dpkg cmd line again please ???    :D
[09:08] <Therasim> onephatmind, I see no new processes started, afaics
[09:08] <lsuactiafner> dpkg -i
[09:08] <Snake__> will_: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[09:08] <Petskull> try starting with spelling, alx
[09:08] <will_> :)   danka !
[09:08] <Petskull> ...unless that was on purpose...
[09:08] <Petskull> ... in which case... um... good one
[09:09] <Znort> Nobody answered, so I think I will explain my question in some more detail. If you can't help, please say so that I am not wasting my time in here. Here we go: When I start up my PC it checks my HD for errors. Then arround app. 60% the check crashes, and I come into a shell. I can't sudo anything because the hostname is "(none)". The system message recommends me to run fsck, so I run fsck and it crashes on the same file. Truely nobody has
[09:09] <Znort> got any idea how to come into a graphical enviroment or to fix this corrupt file?
[09:09] <onephatmind> Znort, recovery mode is useless?
[09:09] <Snake__> Znort: if someone had a answer they generally would have responded, you could wait a bit longer, or check back at a later time. The forums are open for search as well :)
[09:10] <Therasim> Snake__, it appears that the logout/etc dialog is called by the Menu Bar code directly.  At least, alacarte shows no Logout menu item at the bottom of the System menu.
[09:10] <Znort> onephatmind, its useless indeed (via grub I suppose)
[09:10] <Snake__> Therasim: :(
[09:10] <onephatmind> Znort, does it load up?
[09:10] <Madpilot> Znort, what happens when you try recovery mode via grub's menu?
[09:10] <Therasim> Snake__, that doesn't help me determine which process is rendering the dialog.  :-\
[09:10] <pvd2006> I still can't even copy the text with acroread, they must have it protected...
[09:10] <Znort> Snake__: please forgive me =P
[09:10] <Snake__> Therasim: indeed
[09:10] <pvd2006> this sucks
[09:11] <Znort> Madpilot, onephatmind, I get the same error (with hell a lot of debug output in advantage)
[09:11] <Riko> what's the story with the unrar-nonfree package?
[09:11] <ahalstea_> Hello--If anyone has the time, I'm having trouble with my ftp daemon
[09:11] <Snake__> Riko: whats up?
[09:11] <Petskull> Anyone know how to get my wifi working on Breezer?
[09:11] <onephatmind> Znort, try the recovery mode on the installation cd
[09:12] <Petskull> I can connect (I think, but I can't browse
[09:12] <pvd2006> looks like im going to have to get past this security so I can copy text from it.
[09:12] <Znort> onephatmind, gimme a sec then i'll have a look
[09:12] <Riko> Snake__, I've got a bunch of rars broken up... .rar, .r01 r02 r03 etc...
[09:12] <Znort> just cd in and type recovery?
[09:12] <onephatmind> Petskull, do you get and ip, mask, gw, dns?
[09:12] <Petskull> no
[09:12] <NoUse> Riko rar is a non-free format, so to support all the features, you need a non-free software package
[09:12] <Petskull> that's the thing..
[09:12] <onephatmind> Riko, apt-get install rar
[09:12] <Snake__> Riko: yes, but whatcha mean about the unrar-nonfree package? (go into more detail of the problem)
[09:12] <Snake__> onephatmind: thats not the command ;)
[09:12] <Riko> Snake__, so yea what's the story with the nonfree package
[09:13] <Petskull> ... I downloaded wifi-radar in order to see the nets..
[09:13] <onephatmind> Snake__, ?
[09:13] <Snake__> Riko: its free, dont worry :)
[09:13] <Snake__> onephatmind: its install unrar-nonfree :P
[09:13] <Petskull> ... but I'm not confident that the 'connect' is doing anything...
[09:13] <Snake__> Riko: I believe the put (nonfree) as in not open source (perhaps?)
[09:13] <onephatmind> Snake__, what sthe difference? are you saying rar wont work?
[09:14] <Therasim> Snake__, is Ubugtu a bot or a person who might be able to help me?
[09:14] <Petskull> The icon in the tray is counting traffic
[09:14] <Riko> lol ok imma try
[09:14] <onephatmind> Petskull, run ifconfig and pm me the output
[09:14] <NoUse> !unrar
[09:14] <anto9us> Petskull, does iwconfig list wlan0 with an inet address?
[09:14] <ubotu> rar is probably a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[09:14] <Snake__> Therasim: Ubugtu is a bot, as is ubotu
[09:14] <Petskull> gimme a few minutes...I'm dual-booting here...
[09:14] <Znort> onephatmind, what kernel image should I use at startup with cd in?
[09:14] <ahalstea_> Can anyone help me with anonymous logins and proftpd? (they dont work)
[09:14] <Therasim> Snake__, no gurus here who you think could help me?
[09:15] <onephatmind> Zbort, there is a preset recovery option
[09:15] <Snake__> Therasim: its a bit late atm, and I havnt seen any around
[09:15] <onephatmind> Therasim, i think there are gurus here who could help you; dont speculate!
[09:15] <stuzz78> xubuntu question..  does anyone know how to turn off the taskmanager?
[09:15] <pvd2006> Yep it is protected, Content extraction or copy not allowed it says. so how am I suppose to get the text files out of it they though post within the .pdf that is sort of pointlesss
[09:16] <Znort> onephatmind, how do I access it? Typing recovery or something like that when the ubuntu screen pops up when booting from instal cd?
[09:16] <onephatmind> Snake__, so whats wrong with rar?
[09:16] <Snake__> !info rar
[09:16] <ubotu> rar: (Archiver for .rar files), section multiverse/utils, is optional. Version: 3.30-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 239 kB, Installed size: 488 kB
[09:16] <Therasim> onephatmind, I have asked and so far you and Snake are the only folks to respond.  I am just wondering whether to go to sleep.
[09:16] <onephatmind> Znort, which version?
[09:16] <Snake__> onephatmind: heh I wasnt aware that was a package :)
[09:16] <stuzz78> not the teakmanager..  sry.  the taskbar!
[09:16] <Therasim> onephatmind, I don't know who else to prod for help.
[09:17] <onephatmind> Snake__, you do have to ln unrar to rar though
[09:17] <Znort> onephatmind: breezy 5.10
[09:17] <Znort> onephatmind: I typed "rescue" and he is now in "rescue mode" is that ok?
[09:17] <onephatmind> Znort, when you boot up with the cd it gives you optionsl is there a "Recovery mode" among them?
[09:17] <will_> is 'cp'  copy ?
[09:17] <onephatmind> yep
[09:17] <Snake__> Therasim: well its 3am here, i believe most of our "gurus" are sleeping
[09:17] <will_> ;D
[09:17] <Snake__> will_: correct
[09:17] <Znort> onephatmind: no
[09:17] <Snake__> :)
[09:18] <Therasim> Snake__, understook.  It's 12:15am here.
[09:18] <onephatmind> Znort, do you have a login prompt?
[09:18] <Therasim> understood, even.
[09:18] <onephatmind> oh is anybody running win xp under xen?
[09:18] <Snake__> Therasim: try back in about 14 hours :)
[09:18] <Znort> onephatmind: Why would I have a login prompt when booting from install cd as you said?
[09:18] <anto9us> Therasim, many dialogs are rendered with zenity
[09:18] <Therasim> Snake__, thanks for the clue with alacarte!
[09:18] <Snake__> ahh good call anto9us
[09:18] <onephatmind> Znort, shoot, i've never tried the rescue option on the cd; what hapened when u picked it?
[09:18] <Snake__> Therasim: zenity may be what your after
[09:19] <stjepan> anyone here uses Xnest?
[09:19] <Znort> onephatmind: Nothing yet, I didnt go any further (coward as I am) but I will try now
[09:19] <Riko> haha thx guys, nonfree worked!
[09:19] <onephatmind> hehe
[09:19] <anto9us> stjepan, I've used it, you're best off just asking your question for anyone who might know though
[09:19] <Snake__> !ask
[09:19] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[09:20] <Test> ah Hello.
[09:20] <will_> is this what it should be looking like please ???          sudo cp /home/will/azureus/Azureus.png usr/share/pixmaps/azureus.png
[09:20] <anto9us> will_, that looks fine
[09:20] <Snake__> will_: hmm...seems to look right
[09:20] <onephatmind> nope
[09:20] <stjepan> well, I start Xnest by this command: "Xnest :1", how to open xterm on display :1.0??
[09:20] <onephatmind> will_, it sohuld be /usr not usr
[09:20] <will_> ahhh
[09:21] <anto9us> onephatmind, well spotted :)
[09:21] <Snake__> onephatmind: Damn man, your on your game. We need you to lurk in here more often :)
[09:21] <Znort> onephatmind: In rescue mode now, doesnt look any different except the text "rescue mode" upon the left corner
[09:21] <Therasim> anto9us, the issue I want to file a report on is that when I suspend from that dialog, two problems result.  First, the dialog says that hitting any key should wake up my laptop.  It doesn't.  I have to tap the tiny switch that is triggered by closing my laptop lid.  Secondly, when I resume, the logout/etc dialog is still displayed.  It should be dismissed once it is activated with the suspend command.
[09:21] <Test> I'll just ask then- I am testing linux on a dual-boot. The automatic upgrade from 4 to 5 made it unbootable, so I installed Dapper beta. Can the beta upgrade to release, and if it breaks again, can I restore ubuntu without losing data?
[09:21] <onephatmind> hehe
[09:21] <will_> perfect thankyou ^_^
[09:21] <onephatmind> ima proud noob
[09:21] <Snake__> lol
[09:21] <tritium> Therasim: #ubuntu+1 for dapper, please
[09:21] <Test> sorry, tesint ubuntu, not just 'linux' :)
[09:21] <Snake__> mighty tritium !
[09:21] <Snake__> hehe
[09:21] <anto9us> Therasim, I suspect it's the acpi configuration that you need to look into
[09:22] <onephatmind> Therasim, the whole suspend an dhibernate thing is off; especially on laptops
[09:22] <tritium> Hi Snake__
[09:22] <Therasim> anto9us, not sure is that would be zenity related.
[09:22] <Test> erm... hello?
[09:22] <anto9us> Therasim, that's right, it wouldn't be
[09:23] <dj-fu> the logout/etc dialog still displayed is Normal.
[09:23] <stjepan> if I run "xterm -display :1", it says: xterm Xt error: Can't open display: :1
[09:23] <stjepan> what's wrong? :(
[09:23] <dj-fu> something about the suspend button becoming pressed once the system restores
[09:23] <A_Serial_Thrilli> Is there a free replacement for Ventrilo?
[09:23] <dj-fu> stjepan, do you hae a display 1?
[09:23] <Test> is there a quiet channel than this?no-one can hear me
[09:23] <Therasim> Thanks all.  tritium I'll try the other channel.
[09:23] <dj-fu> A_Serial_Thrilli, a replacement or a free client for vent?
[09:24] <Znort> onephatmind: I ran through the rescue mode, now I am in a shell. Dont really realize what I can do in there, I will try deleting the corrupt file now
[09:24] <dj-fu> a replacement would be Teamspeak.. a free client - nope.
[09:24] <stjepan> dj-fu, I opened it with "Xnest :1"
[09:24] <dj-fu> stjepan, `man Xnest` - i have no idea how to use it ;P
[09:24] <onephatmind> Znort, u waned to get x right? put in startx
[09:24] <stjepan> dj-fu, it says I should open xterm with "xterm -display :1", but it doesn't work :(
[09:24] <anto9us> Test, don't format the partition that contains your /home and you shouldn't lose the data
[09:24] <stjepan> anto9us, any ideas?
[09:25] <Znort> onephatmind: command not found
[09:25] <onephatmind> uh oh
[09:25] <onephatmind> then check the disk from there
[09:25] <Znort> fsck?
[09:25] <onephatmind> yep
[09:26] <Znort> Well it sais it may cause SEVERE damage to my HD because the filesys is already mounted
[09:26] <Serial_Thrillist> Hey I need something like Ventrilo but don't wanna go back to windows . . .
[09:26] <Znort> Serial_Thrillist: try teamspeak: goteamspeak.com
[09:27] <Znort> onephatmind: umount it?
[09:27] <onephatmind> Znort, do you really have important thing on you old system? maybe you could back up a few files and reinstall?
[09:27] <Znort> onephatmind: Except from a highly tweaked wine to run World of Warcraft there isnt anything really important there
[09:28] <onephatmind> reinstall!!!:)
[09:28] <Znort> Is there anyway I can reinstall without hurting me files?
[09:29] <Znort> Only overwriting the core files?
[09:29] <onephatmind> yes but..
[09:29] <onephatmind> it might screw up
[09:29] <onephatmind> but do try that
[09:29] <onephatmind> just mount the old fs as / but do not format it
[09:29] <tritium> !enter
[09:29] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[09:29] <Znort> onephatmind: Im screwed up already, can't get any wose =P
[09:29] <danielnewbie> hey, does anyone know the command to change directories up?
[09:29] <danielnewbie> in DOS it was cd..
[09:29] <danielnewbie> what is it in linux?
[09:29] <onephatmind> danielnewbie, same in linux
[09:30] <onephatmind> given it was copied from unix into dos
[09:30] <Znort> onephatmind: so "umount /" ?
[09:30] <tritium> danielnewbie: cd ..
[09:30] <danielnewbie> I tried cd.. but it didn't change directories to the parent directory
[09:30] <danielnewbie> ahh, space
[09:30] <danielnewbie> ok
[09:30] <danielnewbie> thanks
[09:31] <onephatmind> Znort, no; reboot and go for a new install
[09:31] <Znort> onephatmind: will try. AFK now while installing.
[09:31] <alexcamilo> danielnewbie: cd, mv, rm. Very useful.  change directory. move. remove.
[09:31] <alexcamilo> nite
[09:32] <anto9us> stjepan, you could try putting the xterm in your .bashrc
[09:32] <onephatmind> Znort, luck
[09:33] <trevor> hi
[09:33] <onephatmind> hey
[09:33] <trevor> any girls here
[09:33] <onephatmind> hehe
[09:33] <lflashl> i just update xmms with skins but where do they install to
[09:33] <lsuactiafner> trevor : you want to pick girls up here? :)
[09:34] <trevor> i donno is there any   other rooms
[09:34] <fogos> hi everybobody, someone use 915 resolution on dappe beta version?
[09:34] <Madpilot> trevor, if you just want to chat, #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:34] <trevor> is there any local chat
[09:34] <anto9us> trevor, this is a tech support chatroom and network for that matter
[09:34] <skpl> can someone help me with flashplayer? it is not playing any sound
[09:35] <onephatmind> skpl, is the rest of your sound functioning?
, what package has you installed?
[09:35] <tritium> trevor: s/is/are
[09:35] <tonyyarusso> What system files are worth backing up?  fstab, xorg.conf, what else?
[09:35] <skpl> onephatmind, yes, the rest of my sound works, just not flashplayer. i have trouble playing videos with it as well
[09:35] <trevor> so how do i go to a diffeerent room
[09:36] <lflashl> how do i find my xmms skins
[09:36] <onephatmind> skpl. fogos's right; what did u install?
[09:36] <Petskull> back..
[09:36] <trevor> hey i    have a question
[09:37] <trevor> i tried to install festival
[09:37] <Petskull> opm- that ifconfig is after I was 'connected'..
[09:37] <trevor> the text to speech
[09:37] <skpl> onephatmind, i installed the flash plugin that my browser recommended. is there a better way?
[09:37] <ltibor65> HI Guys! Help, please! I want to install opera 8.54 for Ubuntu, but it requires xlibs and xlibg6. Where can I download these two files for Dapper?
, yes search at synaptic
[09:38] <crimsun> ltibor65: no, use the debs for Debian testing (etch) from Opera
[09:38] <Petskull> ltibor- are you online right now with your ubuntu
[09:38] <crimsun> ltibor65: those have the correct package dependencies
[09:38] <trevor> will any one talk to me please
[09:38] <lsuactiafner> !umask
[09:38] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lsuactiafner
[09:38] <trevor> i need help
[09:38] <sobbbber> what program can convert .3gp video to .mpg?
[09:38] <yetistomps> ubotu, tell me about installing mplayer
[09:38] <onephatmind> skplt, listen to fogosl u need plugins
, flashplugin-nonfree
[09:38] <yetistomps> ubotu, tell me about mplayer
[09:39] <trevor> i have a question
[09:39] <Petskull> shoot
[09:39] <trevor> does any one know about ksayit
[09:39] <sobbbber> what program can convert .3gp video to .mpg?
[09:40] <Petskull> never heard of it
[09:40] <trevor> o
[09:40] <Madpilot> trevor, if you need help, you'll get it faster by asking a clear, specific question
[09:40] <trevor> i am wanting to find a text to speech program to when i type it will say it out loud
[09:40] <trevor> ok
[09:40] <onephatmind> sobbbbbbbbber, kino i think might do that for you
[09:41] <will_> is there a "cleanup unneeded junk" option in ubuntu??   my partition is way too small :D
[09:41] <scarn> i just installed ubnutu 64bit. how can i update my video drivers?. i only have 3 choices for resolution
[09:41] <trevor> will festival do it
[09:41] <skpl> fogos, no such package
[09:41] <onephatmind> skpl, did you enable all the repos?
 do youhave universe and multiverse turned on
[09:42] <onephatmind> scarn, it might be you monitor
, ?
[09:42] <sobbbber> what program can convert .3gp video to .mpg?
[09:42] <skpl> fogos, yes
[09:42] <scarn> how can i choose my monitor? i dont see na option
, i am on dapper. you?
[09:42] <onephatmind> fogos, its in backports
[09:42] <Petskull> onephatmind- I pm-ed you that dump
[09:42] <skpl> fogos, dapper
[09:43] <fid> can anyone recommend a good peer 2 peer software prog?
[09:43] <onephatmind> Petskull, i never got anything
[09:43] <noiesmo> fid, frostwire
[09:43] <fid> i have been told limewire but to no avail have i found it
[09:43] <Petskull> now?
[09:43] <lflashl> with 3 250gig hard drives what would be the best setup raid 0 or 1
[09:43] <fid> frost wire?
[09:43] <Madpilot> Petskull, you need to be identified to Freenode to pm users
[09:43] <will_> fid limewire .... gtk-gnutella ?
[09:43] <Madpilot> !tell fid about limewire
[09:43] <Petskull> ah... whaddaya suggest?
[09:43] <onephatmind> nope
[09:44] <noiesmo> fid, http://www.frostwire.com/static/index.html
[09:44] <fogos> fid>, giFT
[09:44] <Madpilot> !tell Petskull about register
[09:44] <onephatmind> Petskull: i think u have to ger with the server
[09:44] <zasdd>
[09:44] <scarn> onephatmind , is there an option somewhere to set my monitor?
[09:44] <Madpilot> onephatmind, you'll need to register too, if you want to pm back to anyone
[09:44] <fogos> fid>, giFT, connect to openFt, Gnutella and Fastrack
[09:44] <will_> limewire goes thru all sorts of install stuff in those help pages ... i just open the sh file from /home directory ... works fine ... same with azureus
[09:44] <onephatmind> nope, only if i need to initiate
[09:44] <Petskull> thanks
[09:44] <fid> can i apt-get frost wire or limewire?
[09:44] <onephatmind> and i'm about to register;)
, try this web http://macromedia.mplug.org/
[09:45] <Madpilot> fid, did you see the pm from ubotu?
[09:45] <Petskull> onephatmind- go to #for-opm
[09:45] <fid> oh i do now
[09:46] <ltibor65> crimsun, I tried install opera from debian etch, but the problem is the same: it requires xlibs and xlib6g
[09:46] <verdeter> rejoignez #i-savoir s'il vous plait, besoin de soutien pour le lancement
[09:46] <mDot> i have two adjacent partitons (hda1 and hda2) hda1 was my Windows partition, but has since been formatted ext3. hda2 is my linux partition. I would like to merge the partitions. any ideas
[09:46] <will_> is there an ubotu about azureus plz?
[09:46] <skpl> fogos, there is nothing on that page for ubuntu
[09:46] <crimsun> ltibor65: try the 9 beta 1 deb
[09:46] <tonyyarusso> What system files are worth backing up?  fstab, xorg.conf, what else?
[09:47] <fid> man I don't know how snowy weather effects cable internet but whenever it snows my connection slows down soooo much.  Can't tell if the weather actually causes the decreased speeds or if its just because more people are inside but it sucks
[09:47] <gymsmoke> night, all
[09:47] <mDot> or, is there any way for me to move the contents of hda2 to hda1 without breaking my install
[09:47] <Jake_> hey guys, needin some help here with samba
[09:47] <ecker> has anyone ever gotten this error. kubuntu A problem occur while loading a library or a decoder: divxc32.dll     This is a new install of dapper drake kubuntu and im getting the error in kaffeine
[09:48] <fid> whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu anyways?
[09:48] <mDot> ecker #ubuntu+1
[09:48] <Jake_> i set it up and everytime i click on the "connect" button in mac os x , Finder freezes and im forced to relaunch it
[09:48] <lsuactiafner> why would apt-get build-dep not work? i have two pcs,each have identical sources and one works and the other doesnt?
[09:48] <mDot> fid the window manager (GNOME vs KDE)
[09:48] <crimsun> lsuactiafner: you don't have deb-src enabled for whatever component(s)?
[09:48] <fid> oh
[09:48] <fid> wierd
[09:48] <lsuactiafner> crimsun : it is enabled.
[09:48] <fid> i guess when i installed ubuntu i found it wierd that it didn't just offer the 2
[09:48] <chip42> fid: very little. you can have both sets of packages
[09:49] <Jake_> is there something i can do to get smb working from mac os x?
[09:49] <fid> like it would be nice to have a choice of more than just one window manager
[09:49] <lsuactiafner> identical sources.lst on both pcs, one works and the other doesnt.
[09:49] <mDot> fid you do
[09:49] <lsuactiafner> !easysource
[09:49] <fid> really?
[09:49] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:49] <ltibor65> crimsun, installing opera 9 beta is the problem the same.
[09:49] <fid> cause i would like to try out kde as well
[09:49] <fid> how do i go about doing such a thing?
[09:49] <chip42> fid: kde or gnome.. or one of a dozen other lightweight options
[09:49] <crimsun> ltibor65: on Dapper?
[09:50] <mDot> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, you can then pick KDE from the Sessions menu at login
[09:50] <ltibor65> crimsun, yes on dapper.
[09:50] <crimsun> ltibor65: I know for a fact that Opera 9 beta 1 packaged for Debian testing (Etch) works just dandy on Dapper. This should be discussed in #ubuntu+1.
[09:50] <fid> nice
[09:50] <Madpilot> fid, install "kubuntu-desktop" for KDE
[09:51] <fid> getting it now
[09:51] <fid> wow thanks dudes
[09:51] <Madpilot> fid, or "xubuntu-desktop" for XFCE
[09:51] <aPello> Any one know what could be causing this:
[09:51] <aPello> Error reading /home/ruckus/.nano_history: Permission denied
[09:51] <aPello> Press Return to continue starting nano
[09:51] <fid> can i do all of those safely?
[09:51] <mDot> yes
[09:51] <Madpilot> fid, yes, generally
[09:51] <fid> ok cool
[09:52] <fid> after this kde installs i'll get the xfce but as i recall I never really liked xfce
[09:52] <mDot> now, someone wanna help me merge partitions?
[09:52] <scarn> can some one tell me how to set my monitor profile?
[09:52] <fid> but then again i didn't really like gnome until i tried ubuntu either so ya
[09:52] <bliss1_> hi
[09:52] <mDot> bliss1_ hi
[09:52] <fid> hah, but i haven't rocked linux since redhat 1.0 so who knows whats good anymore
[09:53] <fid> haha
[09:53] <bliss1_> mDOT
[09:53] <danielnewbie> hey, could someone help me install Java runtime environment?
[09:53] <bliss1_> mDot; hi
[09:53] <onephatmind> danielnewbie, open synaptic and search for "sun" or jre1.5
[09:53] <onephatmind> jre1.5 is better
[09:53] <onephatmind> ;)
[09:53] <Madpilot> !tell danielnewbie about java
[09:53] <chip42> fid: windowmaker was always my favorite. :)
[09:53] <Jake_> ok guys, i read something ons the forums and i read i need the new samba 3.0.20 but under synaptic manager, it only shows the latests as 3.0.14a
[09:54] <danielnewbie> I've downloaded it from the Java website, but I can't get it installed nad working with Firefox
[09:54] <fid> oh ya i remember that
[09:54] <fid> haha
[09:54] <fid> after redhat I gave up on linux for awhile
[09:54] <fid> actually no not true
[09:54] <Madpilot> danielnewbie, see the pm you just got from ubotu
[09:54] <fid> when redhat first came out i used it for awhile
[09:54] <Madpilot> !enter
[09:54] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[09:54] <danielnewbie> ah, thanks
[09:54] <Jake_> please someone help me
[09:54] <Jake_> or at least acknowledge me
[09:54] <fid> then i didn't try anything until fedora core 3 which sucked
[09:54] <bliss1_> just ran a make file it needs P2spdf or i got a warning for P2spdf but when i try apt-get is not there
[09:55] <fid> so my friend told me to try ubuntu and i'm hooked now hah
[09:55] <homegrown> Whatsup Jake?
[09:55] <mDot> hi Jake_
[09:55] <Jake_> im having problems with samba
[09:55] <bliss1_> Madpilot: good morning
[09:55] <Jake_> it wont let me connect through mac os x
[09:55] <homegrown> Jake - whats the prob?
[09:55] <lillpelle> bliss1_: you do mean P2spdf, and not ps2pdf?
[09:56] <lillpelle> the latter may come with ghostscript or similar
[09:56] <Jake_> and i read here....https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/23679
[09:56] <bliss1_> lillpelle; yep my mistake
[09:56] <NoUse> Jake_ have you read the wiki page on how to set up Samba?
[09:56] <Jake_> i need the 3.0.20 version of the samba server but the synaptic manger or w/e is showing the latest being 3.0.14a
[09:56] <Jake_> no, ill take a look at the wiki real fast
[09:56] <Madpilot> morning bliss1_
[09:57] <NoUse> Jake_ well if you need a new version of Samba, it will be in Dapper
[09:57] <lsuactiafner> !kbuntu
[09:57] <ubotu> Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, lsuactiafner
[09:57] <Jake_> ok what do you mean when you say "it will be in dapper"?
[09:57] <Jake_> im like a complete newbie to linux , sry guys
[09:57] <bliss1_> lillpelle: i will try ps2pdf
[09:57] <NoUse> Jake_ dapper is the next version of Ubuntu
[09:58] <Jake_> ok
[09:58] <NoUse> Jake_ will be released in June
[09:58] <Jake_> is there anyway i can get that new samba version now?
[09:58] <lsuactiafner> the easysource generated sources list of kubuntu gives Err http://kubuntu.org breezy/main Packages 404 Not Found.
[09:58] <danielnewbie> I can't seem to find synaptic in Xfce
[09:58] <NoUse> if you're feeling brave you can upgrade to Dapper now
[09:58] <onephatmind> danielnewbie, put in synaptic in terminal
[09:58] <danielnewbie> ok
[09:58] <danielnewbie> thanks
[09:59] <Jake_> im going to stream movies to my xbox in xboxmediacenter and i would rather have samba sharing that anything else
[09:59] <NoUse> !upgrade
[09:59] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades .
[09:59] <Jake_> but is there a way to just put the new package in ubuntu now?
[09:59] <bliss1_> lillpelle: nope apt-get cannot find package
[09:59] <anto9us> Jake_, for streams you don't need samba
[09:59] <NoUse> Jake_ not easily
[09:59] <Jake_> yes, i do
[10:00] <Jake_> xbmc is set up for smb streaming only
[10:00] <anto9us> Jake_, that wouldn't be a stream, that would be a file share
[10:00] <Jake_> well xbmc "streams" videos over smb
[10:01] <lillpelle> bliss1_: sorry, seems to be in the gs-common package
[10:01] <Jake_> are there any major problems in the new ubuntu version?
[10:02] <chip42> Jake_: always going to be something wrong... but no, i haven't noticed anything serious in awhile
[10:02] <chip42> from my limited perspective
[10:02] <Jake_> ok
[10:02] <bliss1_> lillpelle: so run apt-get install gs-common?
[10:02] <Madpilot> Jake_, in Dapper? That depends - it is still in beta testing
[10:02] <lillpelle> bliss1_: that should be it, yes
[10:02] <bliss1_> lillpelle; thanks
[10:02] <lillpelle> bliss1_: perhaps it wants to intall mor packages to have a fully gs working.
[10:02] <chip42> Jake_: it changes every day. sometimes those changes break things
[10:03] <falk0n> would anyone be willing to help me with some questions about installed ubuntu
[10:03] <falk0n> installing*
[10:03] <anto9us> !anyone
[10:03] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[10:03] <Jake_> ok and another thing, can anyone recommend a good ftp server under linux?
[10:03] <bliss1_> lillpelle: ok well the first thing or warning I got with this make file was it wanted latex not this one what next
[10:04] <bliss1_> now this one
[10:05] <Jake_> ok well i just started the upgrade to dapper
[10:05] <Jake_> about how long will it take?
[10:06] <lillpelle> bliss1: then you should insall the tetex packages.
[10:06] <fid|away> where do i check how much hard drive space i have left?
[10:06] <anto9us> Jake_, depends on your hardware, half an hour to an hour maybe on a modern system
[10:06] <Jake_> ok
[10:07] <anto9us> Jake_, oh and bandwidth is an issue too
[10:07] <Jake_> k, well im dlng at 610kbs
[10:08] <Jake_> i guess ill just let it go
[10:08] <bliss1_> Mudpilot: i use postfix and last week i got this strange encrypted message Protected Message from Yahoo.com user.
[10:08] <bliss1_> MIME-Version: 1.0 with a password  from From<EMAIL_ADDRESS>originating IP [<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:08] <anto9us> Jake_, shouldn't take too long then :)
[10:08] <Jake_> haha cool
[10:09] <Jake_> can anyone recoomend a good ftp server under ubuntu?
[10:09] <Jake_> preferable one with a gui
[10:09] <anto9us> Jake_, I usuallly use ssh for remote file access, is that not an option?
[10:10] <Jake_> well i dont know a whole lot about ssh, im just familiar with ftp
[10:10] <scarn> does anyone have any idea how to select a monitor profile?
[10:10] <scarn> ..
[10:10] <Jake_> forgive me if im wrong but isnt ssh like just telneting to the machine?
[10:10] <Madpilot> Jake_, the file manager in Ubuntu can do basic FTP
[10:10] <Jake_> ok
[10:10] <Jake_> thnx madpilot
[10:10] <Madpilot> Jake_, SSH is secure telneting - it can be used for file transfer too
[10:11] <anto9us> Jake_, ssh is much more secure, inherits permissions of the linux users and can be compressed too
[10:11] <Jake_> hmm ill check into that
[10:11] <bliss1_> Madpilot: i use postfix and last week i got this strange encrypted message Protected Message from Yahoo.com user.
[10:11] <bliss1_> bliss1_ MIME-Version: 1.0 with a password   From<EMAIL_ADDRESS>originating IP [<IP_ADDRESS>
[10:11] <Madpilot> Jake_, File->Connect To Server in the file manager
[10:12] <myk> question about installation - if i have 2 drives, PM and PS, will it allow me to choose which to install to?
[10:12] <Jake_> i was reading that rythmbox supports itunes music sharing, is that true?
[10:13] <anto9us> myk, yes
[10:13] <wy>  Need some help. I found that Emacs is not actually using the Chinese font I specified. And xfontsel can't display TTF Chinese fonts.
[10:13] <myk> anto9us, will it delete stuff on the slave? i have a ton of video files that i want to keep.
[10:13] <anto9us> myk, only if you format the partition
[10:14] <myk> anto9us, would it be safer to d/c the 2nd drive, install on the 1st, then reconnect it during a reboot?
[10:14] <crimsun> Jake_: in Dapper.
[10:14] <Jake_> ok thnx
[10:14] <myk> i ask that because i kinda did that and got some weird errors...
[10:14] <Jake_> i was just reading over rythmbox's website
[10:15] <anto9us> myk, that would prevent user error, yes :)
[10:16] <myk> anto9us, and at 115am, user error is bound to occur.
[10:16] <myk> bbl
[10:16] <henk> Is there a wpa capable wireless manager in dapper or am i still going to do this manualy with wpa supplicant>
[10:16] <Jake_> ok, what do i need to do to have ubuntu log me in automatically and start vnc after it logs in
[10:16] <anto9us> henk, ask in #ubuntu+1, I think there is
[10:17] <anto9us> Jake_, you can configure gdm to log you in automatically, anything you want to run you can put in .bashrc
[10:18] <animato> hello, how do i stop the audio previews in nautilus?
[10:18] <Jake_> ok
[10:18] <Jake_> there a manual on how to do that?
[10:18] <animato> where?
[10:18] <falk0n> I downloaded the files to install ubuntu and i dont know what to do with them, do i just burn all of them to a cd or is there a certain file
[10:19] <anto9us> animato, Edit | Preferences | Preview
[10:19] <bliss1_>  KQEMU installed, max_instances=4 max_locked_mem=88856kB. is 88856kb is that 888mb?
[10:19] <animato> falk0n, just burn the iso
[10:19] <Madpilot> falk0n, you got the big ISO file, right?
[10:19] <animato> thanx anlo9us
[10:19] <Madpilot> !+burniso
[10:19] <ubotu> For help burning the Ubuntu ISO to CD, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[10:19] <Jake_> falk0n are you usin windows xp and WinRAR?
[10:19] <falk0n> yes jake
[10:19] <lampshade> Why is it that SuperTux has no sound unless I'm sudoing into it?  I'm already in the audio group, what gives?
[10:20] <lampshade> really annoying
[10:20] <Madpilot> Jake_, let me guess - WinRAR does something silly with ISO files, right? Like it does with JARs?
[10:20] <Jake_> winrar idetifies .iso files as kind of a "packagged" file so dont open it in winrar
[10:20] <Jake_> just burn the .iso
[10:20] <Jake_> lol madpilot, ya
[10:20] <Jake_> i had the same problem a few days ago
[10:20] <falk0n> so just burn that file to a cd
[10:21] <Jake_> ya, the file you downloaded
[10:21] <falk0n> ok cool thanks
[10:21] <Madpilot> falk0n, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[10:21] <chip42> bliss: more like 88
[10:22] <anto9us> falk0n, it's important to burn it as an image and not just put the iso on a new data cd
[10:22] <bliss1_> chip42 thanks, well thats strange as i have a total of 768mb
[10:23] <chip42> bliss1_: yeah that is wierd
[10:24] <bliss1_> chip42; maybe thats the mimium
[10:24] <bliss1_> chip42; or that is 4x 88mb
[10:27] <veki> I have installed and reeinstalled cupsd and hplip on ubuntu 5.10 and after that cupsd is started but when I go into Administration/Printer it says thatit cannotcontact cupsd although it is running.  I restarted X but I cannot enter X anymore.  After login prompt it says that session laste only 10 seconds and that it could not login.  Hm what to do
[10:27] <bookworm> ??? plaese how do i conpile a package i've down loaded to my desktop
[10:28] <chip42> bliss1_: doubt it. seems more like the message is giving information about the application.. can run 4 of itself at a time, consuming at  most 88856k of memory. but i don't know anything about it. just an educated guess
[10:29] <Madpilot> veki, the error msg you go - was it something about ICEauthority?
[10:29] <veki> yes it is
[10:30] <veki> I suppose tht ahplip installed some python or so libraries and that screwed X
[10:30] <veki> it sayd that it cannot acces .ICE ... file in home/user although the file is there
[10:30] <bliss1_> chip42: thanks for that I will ask at the dev page see if they can shed so light
[10:31] <ailean> anyone know why the fonts on the menus of xmms are blocky?
[10:31] <Madpilot> veki, when you start Ubuntu, hit ESC when Grub is loading, enter the recovery console.
[10:31] <veki> ok
[10:31] <veki> and then?
[10:31] <joelbryan> Is there a $ENV_VAR for what type of ubuntu version I'm running?
[10:31] <Madpilot> veki, then type "rm ~/ICE*" and then "shutdown -r now"
[10:32] <Madpilot> veki, without the quotes around those two commands, obviously
[10:32] <Madpilot> veki, sorry - "rm ~/.ICE*"
[10:32] <veki> ok
[10:32] <veki> I will do that
[10:33] <veki> will you be later on IRC also, because I can try that in hour and half?
[10:33] <Madpilot> veki, no, I'm off soon, but there's always someone here - just ask
[10:33] <Nameeater> is there any way to see the last X packages I have installed? I have installed some packages and now my 3d stuff is really slow and has artifacts
[10:33] <veki> ok, thanks
[10:35] <TheRabbit> If I wanted to download songs onto my Sanso Sandisk MP3 player how would I do that with Ubuntu?
[10:35] <veki> Madpilot: OK, so you think actually that something screwed up .ICE permissions and rm /ICE will actually ask X to create new one that will work
[10:35] <Lock-Dog> morning
[10:35] <Lock-Dog> how do i mount cdrom in ubuntu?!
[10:35] <Madpilot> veki, yes, that's right - I've had that error myself, twice
[10:36] <veki> ok, great
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> Lock-Dog: just insert the cdrom, it should auto-mount
[10:36] <Lock-Dog> hmm...
[10:36] <Lock-Dog> i don`t think it worked...
[10:36] <Lock-Dog> any command?
[10:36] <veki> Madpilot: is that possibel to do as root from terminal without X
[10:36] <fyrestrtr> why do you think it didn't work?
[10:36] <thatGuy_> cafuego, you wont the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx page?
[10:36] <veki> I mean sudo...
[10:36] <newie> Hello. I think that i have somehow lost window titlebars in Gnome, after using fluxbox and so... help?
[10:36] <Madpilot> veki, that's what the recovery console is
[10:37] <fyrestrtr> veki: yes.
[10:37] <veki> ok, good
[10:37] <Lock-Dog> because i just think,not sure.
[10:37] <Lock-Dog> i`ll check..isn`t there a command?
[10:37] <chip42> Lock-Dog: mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom ... maybe. devices and mount points vary. man mount
[10:38] <Lock-Dog> k
[10:38] <Lock-Dog> 10x
[10:38] <Lock-Dog> Connection: Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC - Packet Scheduler Miniport @ 10.0 Mbps (Rec: 2075.10MB Sent: 1381.11MB)
[10:38] <Lock-Dog> i need to make internet connection in ubuntu
[10:38] <Lock-Dog> howto?
[10:38] <Lock-Dog> alcatel speed touch home modem
[10:38] <Madpilot> !+modem
[10:38] <ubotu> rumour has it, modem is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[10:39] <Lock-Dog> !modem
[10:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, modem is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[10:39] <Lock-Dog> ;)
[10:39] <Lock-Dog> k
[10:39] <veki> Madpilot:" I have also the following problem.  I have HP ethernet printer that is connected to switch. my Ubunutu can ping it nicely, but When I wantto print its says that it is busy
[10:39] <fyrestrtr> Lock-Dog: you probably want ppoe since the modem you have is actually a dsl modem, iirc.
[10:40] <Madpilot> veki, I know nothing about network printing - sorry
[10:40] <Lock-Dog> yep
[10:40] <Lock-Dog> i found the info already
[10:40] <Lock-Dog> it`s k..10x.
[10:40] <Lock-Dog> ppoe
[10:40] <veki> ok, thanks, tghe same happened with printer on parllel port, so Ithink it i snot related to netwrok itself
[10:41] <matid> Hi, is there any way to substitute minicom that I use to run my modem so I would be able to run it on system startup?
[10:41] <Jake_> ok, im just messing around with ssh, i have an external hard drive, how do i access it via command line(ssh)
[10:42] <will_> thanks for the help  :)
[10:42] <Loevborg> Hey, do you guys occasionaly get this. "swsusp: Not enough free swap" ?
[10:43] <brammator> i have manual pptp connection. how to add it to 'networking' list of interfaces? also, is storing my pass in /etc/ppp/chap-secrets absolutely inevitable?
[10:44] <Madpilot> Jake_, not sure you can. SSH is a computer-to-computer thing, AFAIK
[10:45] <Jake_> well i can browse it in the file browser in ubuntu,shouldnt i be able to access it via ssh?
[10:45] <veki> Jake:  you have to access with mount command , please check manual for man and fstab
[10:45] <veki> you can access with ssh things that do have IP number and enabled ssh access
[10:46] <Jake_> ok, well the external hard drive is hooked up to that computer and i can browse its files in ubuntu file browser
[10:46] <Jake_> sry for the misunderstanding
[10:46] <veki> Jake: you can access with ssh things that do have IP number and enabled ssh access
[10:46] <brammator> Jake_ find mount point for this hdd and browse it with ssh
[10:47] <jimi> windows has ipconfig /renew what is int linux with similar function?
[10:47] <veki> so, I supose your HD doe snot have special IP number because it does not have Ethernet connection, so you cannot acces sit with ssh
[10:47] <Jake_> ok, im not familiar with how files are laid out in linux, would it be in /dev/?
[10:47] <veki> yes, your external HD would be in /dev but also check fstab amd mount commands and you will see,
[10:47] <brammator> Jake_ better look into file browser first. some of /media/ i presume.
[10:48] <brammator> Jake_ also, run "mount" via ssh and see if any of this lines looks like your HD
[10:48] <Jake_> ok
[10:48] <Jake_> sweet, thanks guys, i found it
[10:49] <brammator> np
[10:49] <anto9us> Jake_, 'man hier' will describe the linux file system hierarchy
[10:49] <Jake_> k
[10:50] <Jake_> great man page, right there, thanks
[10:50] <thatGuy_> cafuego, nvm, i read the signature at the bottom. the page fixed everything after i removed the dapper default driver and tried ndiswrapper from scratch again
[10:50] <veki> there is on Linux Documentation project book abut fiyles system hierarchy that I recomend for reading
[10:51] <Jake_> k, ill google it
[10:51] <LorD-LsD> is there a line for help or do we just blurt out in the channle ?
[10:51] <veki> www.ldtp.org I think
[10:51] <Madpilot> LorD-LsD, just ask
[10:51] <anto9us> LorD-LsD, blurting is recommended :)
[10:52] <veki> www.ldp.org
[10:52] <veki> sorry,m something similar is the Linux Documentation project
[10:52] <g1gaman> i have to hdd drives (3gb & 1,7gb). can anyone give me advice how should i partition them while installing ubuntu 5.10. which is the best way?
[10:53] <LorD-LsD> thanks.. here is my situation i just installed linux.. (extreme newb wanting to learn) and i have a bluetooth keyboard and mouse how can i make these work with ubuntu i dont have a regular mouse but i do have a standard keyboard also how can i get my wireless card to work
[10:53] <anto9us> g1gaman, seperate /home should be enough
[10:53] <zcat[1] > 3G is a bit tight, no?
[10:53] <etmnt_away> I have a quick question, how often should we updatedb?
[10:54] <anto9us> g1gaman, with 2 drives though, I'd configure raid0 for faster performance
[10:54] <poningru> LorD-LsD: the bluetooth you can make it work out of the box starting in the june release (the next release which is called dapper)
[10:54] <anto9us> zcat[1] , a bit tight, yes
[10:54] <LorD-LsD> i have dapper flight 6 whatever that means ?
[10:54] <etmnt_away> how often should we updatedb?
[10:54] <anto9us> etmnt_away, it should run automatically during the early hours of the morning
[10:55] <Nameeater> I have installed a package but when I go to remove it with apt, it wants to take other (important) stuff with it, how can I make it just remove the 1 package?
[10:55] <poningru> LorD-LsD: hmm that should allow you to use bluetooth kb
[10:55] <zcat[1] > I'd suggest 3G root, 1.5 home, 200M swap..
[10:55] <etmnt_away> so it starts auto?
[10:55] <agliv5> Greetings all :)  Is it posible to run a virus scanner booting from the liveCD?
[10:55] <poningru> and mouse
[10:55] <etmnt_away> I didn't see it in crontab
[10:55] <g1gaman> anto9us,  i will not have lots of data on them. 3gb is primary master. /home should be on second (smaller) disk?
[10:55] <poningru> not sure how to set it up thought, since i have never played with it
[10:55] <zcat[1] > actually no, I'd suggest get a 20G drive..
[10:55] <LorD-LsD> poningru how do i get to the setup for it tho it did not autodetect or ask me to configur the bluetooth during the install
[10:55] <anto9us> g1gaman, /home will be where all your user files go
[10:56] <xbox_sky> Hi! How do I make my applications/script to launch anywhere in my bash? Like nzbperl (script) is located in a folder, but how do I make it launch/evrywhere on my system?
[10:56] <agliv5> Anyone?  Virus Scan,  LiveCD,  Help please :)
[10:56] <poningru> LorD-LsD: look under system either pref or admin there should be a bluetooth option
[10:56] <LorD-LsD> poningru_ how can i get to those menus with just a keyboard ?
[10:58] <g1gaman> anto9us, ok thanx a lot. another question. maybe i should make partition /swap on slave disk? the purpose of computer is net surfing and no downloading/creating data.
[10:58] <poningru> LorD-LsD: press alt+ctrl+tab that should allow you to cycle to the top bar
[10:58] <poningru> err hold down alt and ctrl and keep on pressing tab untill the top bar it higlighted
[10:58] <LorD-LsD> poningru okay thank you i will reboot and try this now.. is there a configuration for setting up a wireless card so i can access the internet ?
[10:58] <poningru> then use the arrow keys to go to the menus
[10:58] <poningru> LorD-LsD: need to know which wireless card
[10:59] <anto9us> g1gaman, sounds good, yes
[10:59] <weiliu> join #ubuntu-cn
[10:59] <anto9us> etmnt_away, it's run as slocate
[10:59] <LorD-LsD> its a dwl5g
[10:59] <LorD-LsD> from dlink
[10:59] <g1gaman> anto9us, which partitions are used for program files and which are user partitions?
[11:00] <poningru> LorD-LsD: hold on let me check
[11:00] <anto9us> g1gaman, "man hier" will give a comprehensive description but generally all user files are in /home
[11:00] <Znort> G'morning ppl, guess who's back... I succeeded in installing the new ubuntu, but when I compile it sais my compiler fails the sanity check. Anything to work around that?
[11:00] <g1gaman> anto9us, maybe there is a online manual, but i cant find it
[11:00] <Jake_> whoohoo!! 52min till dapper is installed!!
[11:01] <poningru> LorD-LsD: you sure that was the name of the card?
[11:01] <LorD-LsD> poningru_ to be more exact its a dlink airplus g dwl-g510
[11:01] <poningru> ah much better
[11:02] <poningru> let me check
[11:02] <LorD-LsD> thank you
[11:04] <andrej> Hi guys ... I've been googling for hours but can't seem to find a suitable breezy-repo for mplayer, acidrip and the likes
[11:05] <Madpilot> andrej, mplayer is in Multiverse
[11:05] <Madpilot> so is acidrip
[11:05] <Madpilot> !+multiverse
[11:05] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:05] <lesshaste> is there any im client for linux that can do video?
[11:06] <zcat[1] > how about w32codecs and libdvdcss?
[11:06] <andrej> are there different software packages on repos in different countries?
[11:06] <poningru> LorD-LsD: yeah that should work out of the box
[11:06] <poningru> LorD-LsD: go to your network configuration
[11:06] <LorD-LsD> poningru okay and i can get to all that with cntr alt tab ?
[11:06] <andrej> The NZ mirror certainly doesn't have mplayer or acid
[11:06] <Madpilot> andrej, I don't believe so, but I'm not sure
[11:06] <andrej> Hmmm
[11:06] <anto9us> andrej, there shouldn't be, they should all be mirrors
[11:06] <Madpilot> andrej, do you have Multiverse enabled?
[11:06] <poningru> LorD-LsD: yeah its under system->admin
[11:06] <andrej> Yeah
[11:07] <LorD-LsD> thank you .. i will reboot now and give this a go
[11:07] <poningru> LorD-LsD: which you can reach using ctrl alt tab thing
[11:07] <Madpilot> andrej, switch to the main repos
[11:07] <anto9us> andrej, have you run "apt-get update" ?
[11:07] <Kassah> on Dapper, I've noticed that the bubble notifications will cross screens on a Xinarama setup making it hard to read.. does anyone have a solution to this?
[11:07] <poningru> and the arrow keys
[11:07] <andrej> repeatedly :}
[11:07] <zcat[1] > Kassah: file a bug report..
[11:07] <andrej> Madpilot - which are the main repos?
[11:07] <poningru> LorD-LsD: once you have highlighted the bar with the mensu bar make sure to get into the menus using the arrow key
[11:08] <poningru> s
[11:08] <agliv5> Can anyone help me pls my system is infected by a virus, I assume, and I can only boot from a LiveCD...  What can I do to clean my system?
[11:08] <Madpilot> andrej, the archive.ubuntu.com ones - with no country codes in front
[11:08] <londonboi2k3> Hi guys, trying to compile bzflag but I am getting an error. Client build has been requested, but GL is not fully available (missing gl.h) Have searched the forum but cant seem to get an answer
[11:08] <andrej> Ok, ta
[11:08] <anto9us> agliv5, a linux system is infected?
[11:08] <poningru> agliv5: hehe sorrry dude there are almost zero viruses for linux
[11:08] <Znort> Nobody has a solution for "/lib/cpp fails sanity check"? Then I reckon I should move on. Thanks anyway ;)
[11:08] <poningru> agliv5: whats the prob?
[11:08] <Madpilot> andrej, standard Breezy sources.list - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 - compare w/ yours
[11:09] <poningru> Znort: do man cpp tell me what that says
[11:09] <poningru> err nm
[11:09] <poningru> its a lib not bin
[11:09] <anto9us> agliv5, try clamav
[11:09] <zcat[1] > comments on source-o-matic?
[11:09] <poningru> anto9us: I dont think its a virus
[11:09] <agliv5> Yes and no, I was running Windows when the system became infected and now I can only start from the Ubuntu liveCD that I have...
[11:10] <agliv5> anto9us is it possible to run clamav from the LiveCD?
[11:10] <zcat[1] > summat's overwritten the mbr perhaps?
[11:10] <andrej> Well, the DVD as a source aside ubuntu has customised the sources.list to point at NZ with exception of security
[11:10] <anto9us> agliv5, yes, you should be able to, you might need to install it if it's not there already
[11:10] <Znort> poningru: a long man page appears
[11:10] <Madpilot> andrej, yeah, it'll do that, but you can always switch repos.
[11:10] <andrej> Ok, I did switch, and run apt-get update ...
[11:10] <poningru> Znort: whats the first line
[11:11] <Madpilot> Znort, did you do the full build-essential install for compiling?
[11:11] <andrej> apt-cache search acidrip still comes back empty handed
[11:11] <Znort> Madpilot: What do you mean?
[11:11] <agliv5> anto9us Thanks, I'll look for clamav and report back ;)
[11:11] <Madpilot> !info acidrip
[11:11] <ubotu> acidrip: (ripping and encoding DVD tool using mplayer and mencoder), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.14-0.0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 53 kB, Installed size: 276 kB
[11:11] <Madpilot> andrej, ^^^
[11:11] <__filip_> http://pastebin.com/676528 I get this when i try to play an mp3 in juk. I have try Arts and aKode. The sound works sometimes and sometimes not. So if i restart the computer i may work. The sound doesnt work in amarok or xmms either. I run Kubuntu dapper.
[11:11] <poningru> Znort: do sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:11] <Znort> poningru: First line: NAME: cpp - The C processor
[11:11] <zcat[1] > andrej: google 'source o matic' - it'll build you a sources list for whatever stuff you want..
[11:11] <__filip_> The sound have work perfectly in the other relases
[11:11] <poningru> oh rofl
[11:11] <Madpilot> andrej, acidrip & mplayer are both in Multiverse, honest
[11:12] <anto9us> __filip_, #ubuntu+1 for help on dapper
[11:12] <lesshaste> is there any im client for linux that can do video?
[11:12] <poningru> andrej: did you add the multiverse to your source list?
[11:12] <poningru> lesshaste: amsn
[11:12] <andrej> yes, sure did
[11:12] <lesshaste> poningru: thx... I'll take a look.. no skype video?
[11:12] <andrej>  deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[11:13] <poningru> lesshaste: skype is there for linux
[11:13] <poningru> !skype
[11:13] <andrej> That should have me covered?
[11:13] <Znort> madpilot: build-essential gives a wierd error
[11:13] <ubotu> from memory, skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[11:13] <lesshaste> poningru: thx
[11:13] <Madpilot> andrej, you need more than just the backports
[11:13] <scorpion> Hola, como hago para tener una imagen diferente en cada escritorio?
[11:13] <Madpilot> andrej, do a full copy/paste of that default sources.list I gave you the URL for
[11:13] <Edgy_Eft> je ne parle francais
[11:13] <Madpilot> !es
[11:13] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:13] <Edgy_Eft> :B
[11:14] <Edgy_Eft> prego uno litro de late
[11:14] <poningru> Znort: whats the error?
[11:14] <poningru> !es
[11:14] <poningru> 0.o
[11:14] <poningru> wtf
[11:14] <poningru> stupid bot
[11:14] <Kassah> zcat[1] : you don't happen to know what package the notification bubbles are in?
[11:14] <Madpilot> Znort, what error?
[11:15] <andrej> Madpilot , sorry, I can't see a url that you gave me?
[11:15] <scorpion> Hola, como hago para tener una imagen diferente en cada escritorio?
[11:15] <Madpilot> andrej, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[11:15] <Znort> poningru: It's in dutch, but litteraly translated it sais: The following packages have not the right requirements: libc6-dev (enter) libc-dev
[11:15] <alberto> hola
[11:15] <poningru> !tell scorpion about es
[11:15] <Madpilot> scorpion, #ubuntu-es
[11:15] <scorpion> thanks
[11:15] <shinu> why in find cant i have -type before -perm?
[11:16] <alberto> ke tal jente?
[11:16] <Madpilot> !es
[11:16] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:16] <poningru> sigh...
[11:16] <scorpion> Hola, como hago para tener una imagen diferente en cada escritorio?
[11:16] <poningru> Znort: try to do a repair
[11:16] <poningru> 0.0
[11:16] <poningru> wow
[11:16] <Znort> poningru: By issueing what command?
[11:17] <Madpilot> scorpion, English here, please. For Spanish, #ubuntu-es. thanks
[11:17] <poningru> err hold on
[11:17] <alberto> ok
[11:17] <alberto> hello?
[11:17] <scorpion> i don't enter
[11:17] <poningru> Madpilot: whats the command for repair packages?
[11:17] <Madpilot> poningru, not sure... man apt-get :P
[11:17] <alberto> ??
[11:17] <poningru> hehe not at my computer right now
[11:18] <licinioo> hi
[11:18] <Znort> apt-get -f?
[11:18] <scorpion> donde se va al xat espaol?
[11:18] <alberto> ??
[11:18] <alberto> eso pregunto
[11:18] <AnAnt> doesn't Ubuntu setup virtual consoles (ie /dev/ttyX) ?
[11:18] <poningru> Znort: hmm might be sorry not sure dude
[11:18] <poningru> AnAnt: ctrl+alt+ f1
[11:19] <Znort> poningru: tried to but it keeps whining about a broken pipe =S
[11:19] <r0b> is it worth installing the current stable release, or is the new release going to supercede it soon and i should just wait
[11:19] <poningru> Znort: problem is I dont have my laptop with me I am using a school computer that is running windows
[11:19] <alberto> aki alguien sabe espaol?
[11:19] <Znort> poningru: lol
[11:19] <scorpion> si
[11:19] <scorpion> yo
[11:19] <Madpilot> alberto, English here, please. For Spanish, #ubuntu-es. thanks
[11:19] <alberto> por fin alguen!!
[11:19] <AnAnt> poningru: well, I am trying the Live DVD, and it doesn't have it
[11:20] <AnAnt> poningru: so I was wondering if that is just because it's a live distro
[11:20] <poningru> Madpilot: dont think they can enter es they have to register I think
[11:20] <poningru> AnAnt: oh yeah I dont think the live distro has it
[11:20] <scorpion> alberto entra en este canal
[11:20] <andrej> good grief ... this channel is way too lively for me :D
[11:20] <scorpion> #ubuntu-es.
[11:20] <Madpilot> poningru, why the heck is #ubuntu-es +R when #ubuntu isn't?
[11:21] <poningru> :D
[11:21] <AnAnt> poningru: ok, I'm not used to debian, how can I get the version of software I have here ? I mean, is there something like rpm -q ?
[11:22] <enyc> AnAnt:  "dpkg -l {package}"  in debian/ubuntu
[11:22] <AnAnt> thx
[11:22] <enyc> AnAnt: note that this is #ubuntu not #debian ;-)
[11:22] <poningru> AnAnt: obviously you have to be super user
[11:22] <Znort> Ok thanks for the great help here (im not sarcastic). I go try at the wine channel. Bye
[11:22] <r0b> is it worth installing the current stable release, or is the new release going to supercede it soon and i should just wait
[11:22] <highvoltage> r0b: new release is due for june 1.
[11:22] <poningru> r0b the next release is going to be in june
[11:23] <Madpilot> r0b, install the current stable, and upgrade in place when the new one is stable
[11:23] <enyc> AnAnt: I am able to dpkg -l  not as superuser... you can search and query etc... -- just not change/install-romeve packages etc.
[11:23] <poningru> what is -q??
[11:23] <AnAnt> k
[11:23] <r0b> awesome thanks will do :)
[11:23] <poningru> I thought that was install in rpmm
[11:23] <Boglizk> Why do i get "bash: ./helloworld.sh: Permission denied" ? :S
[11:23] <anto9us> r0b, depends how mission critical it is, I'd say the beta is quite stable now
[11:23] <poningru> err nm
[11:23] <enyc> r0b: the new (dapper // 6.06) installer / system is quite different from breezy (5.10 / stable)
[11:23] <andrej> thanks to whoever the friendly person was to point me at google and source o matic ... thanks :}
[11:23] <r0b> well its my first stab at linux/debian so :D
[11:23] <poningru> r0b yeah dude if you just wanna have fun install the beta now
[11:23] <andrej> I mean it :)
[11:23] <Madpilot> Boglizk, have you made sure your script has execute set?
[11:24] <BlueEagle> rob: You can install breezy and then upgrade that to dapper when the next stable is released.
[11:24] <poningru> r0b stick with stable
[11:24] <BlueEagle> rob: however if this is a production machine my advice is to stick with the tried and tested.
[11:24] <[nige] > can linux do dynamic dns, so it adds dhcp leases/ address to its dns records?
[11:24] <AnAnt> ??!
[11:24] <enyc> r0b: if you are playing around // desktop user etc.  imho I would get the dapper beta -- http://releases.ubuntu.com/dapper/
[11:24] <AnAnt> hey, what's the superuser password in the live distro ?!
[11:24] <poningru> AnAnt: ignore me
[11:24] <andrej> NigelS: you can do that with scripting
[11:24] <andrej> bind as such can't
[11:24] <Boglizk> Madpilot: i just wrote "#!/bin/bash <newline> echo Hello World" in it
[11:24] <anto9us> [nige] , yes
[11:24] <Madpilot> AnAnt, there isn't one
[11:25] <[nige] > anto9us, without scripting?
[11:25] <Boglizk> i probably screwed up, didn't i? :/
[11:25] <fyrestrtr> AnAnt: none
[11:25] <AnAnt> Madpilot: well, I fail to do SU
[11:25] <Madpilot> AnAnt, use sudo
[11:25] <scorpion> Hola, como hago para tener una imagen diferente en cada escritorio?
[11:25] <AnAnt> saying authentication failure
[11:25] <[nige] > andrej,  I would prefer to stay away from scripting
[11:25] <AnAnt> ok
[11:25] <Madpilot> !tell AnAnt about sudo
[11:25] <anto9us> [nige] , I just set system to dhcp and the gateway is listed as my dns server
[11:25] <andrej> well ... when you say DNS, do you handing out random names?
[11:25] <BlueEagle> [nige] : I think I remember setting that up. You need bind and dhcpcd iirc.
[11:25] <Madpilot> Boglizk, you just need to make sure the file you created has Execute set in it's permissions
[11:25] <scorpion> Hola, como hago para tener una imagen diferente en cada escritorio?
[11:25] <Alth> Hey Madpilot :)
[11:25] <bananasontoast> Can anyone possibly point out documentation on how to install using the live/install DVD?
[11:25] <andrej> If the names are meant to be static it takes some effort
[11:25] <r0b> if i setup my system just how i want it, ie drivers etc, when i upgrade to dapper, would i have to start all over again or?
[11:26] <BlueEagle> scorpion: #ubuntu-es por favour
[11:26] <scorpion> Hola, como hago para tener una imagen diferente en cada escritorio?
[11:26] <[nige] > BlueEagle, i was only going to use the dhcpd
[11:26] <Boglizk> Madpilot: oh.. allright, thanks
[11:26] <[nige] > :)
[11:26] <[nige] > well bind things
[11:26] <poningru> r0b no the update will not touch the settings
[11:26] <[nige] > they are pretty much the leader in the linux world arent they?
[11:26] <Madpilot> r0b, for some things like 3d drivers, you might have to redo some things. Most settings will be OK
[11:26] <BlueEagle> [nige] : Well you can't run a dns w/o a nameserver like bind (berkley internet name daemon)
[11:26] <poningru> oh true
[11:26] <r0b> oh well, off to install my first distro
[11:26] <r0b> wish me luck :)
[11:26] <poningru> r0b good luck
[11:26] <anto9us> r0b, good luck
[11:27] <BlueEagle> g/l rob
[11:27] <anto9us> [nige] , you want static dns with dhcp, yes?
[11:27] <shinu> if i have an internal graphic card, how do i check how much ram is assigned to it?
[11:27] <scorpion> hello.who it can diferent wallpapers in desktops?
[11:28] <BlueEagle> poningru: somewhat delayed I must say. :p
[11:28] <scorpion> hello?
[11:28] <Madpilot> scorpion, if you mean different wallpapers in different virtual desktops, you can't do that yet
[11:28] <poningru> scorpion: right click on the desktop and choose change background
[11:28] <poningru> I think he means change background
[11:28] <poningru> not sure
[11:29] <poningru> we need someone to remove the R in es
[11:29] <scorpion> mmm
[11:29] <Revolution> short, stupid question :P Can I just use KDE apps on GNOME?
[11:29] <Madpilot> Revolution, yes
[11:29] <poningru> Revolution: yes
[11:29] <[nige] > anto9us, I want to beable to issue dhcp leases to clients, and when i type in say smb://computernumber1/ to be take to it, not have it not beable to find its hostname
[11:29] <bananasontoast> Can anyone possibly point out documentation on how to install using the live/install DVD?
[11:29] <Revolution> thnx ;)
[11:29] <andrej> are there any repos with transcode as well?  I just leeched mplayer and acidrip ... but still ain't all happy ;}
[11:29] <scorpion> revolution, yes
[11:29] <poningru> !transcode
[11:29] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, poningru
[11:30] <andrej> NigelS: that's easy ... all you need to do is to tie the dhcp lease to a mac address
[11:30] <Boglizk> How do i change permissions on the .sh file from Terminal?
[11:30] <andrej> errh ... without the S :)
[11:30] <engla> Hello. I wonder one thing: Is it possible to make apps "swallow" the first click in a window, so that if I click to focus it I don't inadvertedly click a link, button or any control like that?
[11:30] <Madpilot> poningru, I just pm'd Sev. about the +R in -es
[11:30] <[nige] > andrej, but then I need to knw everything machines mac address
[11:30] <BlueEagle> revolution: Yes you can, however that will cause the KDE graphical libraries (QT) to be loaded into memory. QT does take a nice chunk of memory.
[11:31] <Revolution> ah ok :)
[11:31] <poningru> Madpilot: sweet
[11:31] <engla> Boglizk: normally it's "chmod +x file.sh" to add the executable "bit" to the file's permissions
[11:31] <BlueEagle> revolution: also most QT applications attempt to use the ARTS sound library and they might conflict with EDS
[11:31] <BlueEagle> ESD*
[11:31] <Silent1> poningru i tried what you said.. but i could not acess the menus i could switch between top bottom and desktop but nothing let me open the menus
[11:31] <andrej> [nige]  How many machines?  It's quite easy, I've written an awk script that extracts macs from arp-requests ;}
[11:31] <Boglizk> engla: Thanks!
[11:31] <andrej> But that's not really a ubuntu-topic, is it?
[11:31] <[nige] > well i have say 5 machines at home, and yer thats not an issue to get them all
[11:32] <poningru> andrej http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/breezy/x11/transcode
[11:32] <LorD-LsD> poningru i tried what you said.. but i could not acess the menus i could switch between top bottom and desktop but nothing let me open the menus
[11:32] <engla> Boglizk: +r and +w for read and write. You can also set absolute permissions, or perms for just the owner (like 'u=rwx go=r')
[11:32] <[nige] > but if i expand that it might get a little more tricky
[11:32] <poningru> LorD-LsD: try moving the arrow keys around
[11:32] <anto9us> [nige] , that's netbios isn't it?
[11:32] <poningru> that was one thing I was trying to tell you...
[11:32] <andrej> I had no problems with a network of > 60 machines ;)
[11:32] <Boglizk> allright
[11:32] <Madpilot> Boglizk, man chmod for more info
[11:32] <[nige] > anto9us, no, becuase the internet works on name to ip address number
[11:32] <LorD-LsD> i did.. played around and tried several command combos.. best i could do was get access to a console mode i think.. alt ctrl and f1
[11:33] <ubuntu> Hello
[11:33] <[nige] > I belive its called dynamic dns, not the one your thinking of with things like i guess no-ip.com etch
[11:33] <poningru> LorD-LsD: no do the ctrl+alt then tab and highlight the top bar
[11:33] <LorD-LsD> it was highlighted
[11:33] <poningru> then use the arrow keys to move to the menu
[11:33] <anto9us> [nige] , you may need to configure each client
[11:33] <LorD-LsD> it didnt do anything
[11:34] <poningru> the arrow keys?
[11:34] <LorD-LsD> yep
[11:34] <poningru> hmm
[11:34] <Draconicus> Are there any issues with the installer and SATA that I should know about?
[11:34] <poningru> dapper or breezy?
[11:34] <andrej> NigelS:  the problem is that you'll need to SOMEHOW (magically?) tie the lease to a name ... and the only way that's POSSIBLE is via the MAC
[11:34] <LorD-LsD> dapper
[11:34] <[nige] > well no, I dont think you do
[11:34] <poningru> oh right
[11:34] <poningru> hmmm
[11:34] <poningru> thats weird
[11:34] <Madpilot> Draconicus, there shouldn't be - my only HD is SATA, I had no issues installing
[11:34] <andrej> i did it again.
[11:34] <[nige] > the problem is I know how to do this in windows servers :S I am trying to work out if there is an equivlant for linux
[11:35] <Draconicus> Madpilot: Okay. Thanks.
[11:35] <andrej> well ... the method I first described is trivial
[11:35] <ferronica> hello
[11:35] <ferronica> any one gona help me
[11:35] <andrej> and if you keep editing the dhcp.conf as you add machines it's quite doab'e
[11:35] <andrej> doable
[11:36] <[nige] > andrej, but with say 800pc its not
[11:36] <poningru> can someone get to their application/system menus using just the kb? I was able to do it before I dont think I remember how to do it now, sitting at my windows comp
[11:36] <[nige] > espically if change say 2 machines
[11:36] <anto9us> [nige] , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BIND9ServerHowto may be helpful
[11:36] <andrej> [nige]  ... that's where arp requests come in handy.
[11:36] <Madpilot> poningru, there's always Alt+F2, if you can find the name of the app you want to launch
[11:36] <[nige] > cheers I will have a read
[11:37] <andrej> [nige]  what do you mean by change?
[11:37] <poningru> Madpilot: he wants to access a system thing under admin
[11:37] <ferronica> Help Me!
[11:37] <ferronica> please!
[11:37] <poningru> not sure what the app name for that is
[11:37] <poningru> ferronica: cant help sorry
[11:37] <Madpilot> ferronica, please ask an actual question, don't just yell
[11:37] <ferronica> y?
[11:37] <ferronica> pleas
[11:37] <feugan3333> ferronica, stop that
[11:37] <ferronica> ok
[11:37] <poningru> ferronica: you didnt ask a question
[11:37] <feugan3333> ferronica, ask a question
[11:37] <ferronica> ok
[11:38] <poningru> :D
[11:38] <ferronica> i cant boot my XP via UBUNTU GRUB..
[11:38] <anto9us> [nige] , if I understand the problem correctly it may be as simple as editing the hosts file on your dhcp server
[11:38] <ferronica> ERROR-NTLDR missing
[11:38] <[nige] > that may work anto9us
[11:38] <Jimmey_1> How do I reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[11:38] <Jimmey_1> I can never fully remember it
[11:39] <feugan3333> ferronica, Was windows working before you installed Ubuntu?
[11:39] <[nige] > Jimmey_1, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:39] <ferronica> i hav three seperate hdd
[11:39] <ferronica> ya its working fine
[11:39] <[nige] > I know dnsmasq does something similar to it
[11:40] <graveson> can anyone help me please ? what can i use to create dvd video
[11:40] <LorD-LsD> is it possible to launch the bluetooth config utility via the alt-f2
[11:40] <poningru> graveson: what do you mean? you have some video and you want to record it to a dvd disc?
[11:40] <feugan3333> ferronica, well start by posting the file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:41] <poningru> or do you want to rip from a dvd to a file?
[11:41] <kranebitt5> hi guys. I am owning an
[11:41] <BlueEagle> kranebitt5: congratulations
[11:41] <graveson> poningru:yes some avi files that i want to record on dvd to watch on set top dvd player
[11:41] <kranebitt5> Fujitsu siemens laptop but I can't get the 3d aacceleration to work
[11:41] <ferronica> now what i do
[11:42] <kranebitt5> can anyone help me?
[11:42] <BlueEagle> kranebitt5: lspci|grep VGA
[11:42] <Fujitsu> I don't make any products with Siemens :P
[11:42] <Fujitsu> kranebitt5, a number of people have asked similar questions...
[11:42] <Siemens> fujitsu: Yes you do!
[11:42] <feugan3333> ferronica, did you post the file?
[11:42] <anto9us> graveson, dvdauthor may be what you're looking for
[11:42] <ferronica> what file???
[11:43] <graveson> auto9us:thnx
[11:43] <ferronica> ???
[11:43] <poningru> kranebitt5: what kind of vid card do you have?
[11:43] <anto9us> graveson, it's in the universe repository
[11:43] <feugan3333> ferronica, this file: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:43] <LorD-LsD> is it possible to launch the bluetooth config utility via the alt-f2
[11:43] <kranebitt5> I have a Sis M670
[11:44] <ferronica> oh u need ok wait
[11:44] <BlueEalge> lord-lsd: it should be.
[11:44] <anto9us> graveson, alternatives listed here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DVDAuthoring
[11:44] <LorD-LsD> BlueEalge how ?
[11:44] <ferronica> give me the pastelink
[11:44] <poningru> !pastebin
[11:44] <ubotu> well, pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/, a site for pasting long texts so you don't disrupt the channel - or install webboard in Gnome: http://www.gnomefiles.org/app.php?soft_id=1269
[11:44] <poningru> kranebitt5: hold on
[11:44] <kranebitt5> ok thanks
[11:44] <ferronica> ok
[11:45] <gridblock> sup ppl?
[11:45] <BlueEalge> lord-lsd: open the run dialog (with ALT+F2) and type gnome-bluetooth-manager
[11:45] <kranebitt5> I tried to look up online forums but I couldn't find the solution
[11:45] <feugan3333> gridblock: all good homie ;-)
[11:45] <LorD-LsD> okay i will try that hopefully i can get a mouse to work with that
[11:45] <ferronica> ok done
[11:45] <poningru> kranebitt5: hold on
[11:46] <kranebitt5> sorry poningru, it's a m760
[11:46] <gridblock> feugan3333, good, homie :P
[11:46] <poningru> hehe k
[11:46] <ferronica> feugan333: pasted
[11:46] <ferronica> feugan333: u can read it
[11:46] <feugan3333> ferronica, you need to give us a link to the post
[11:46] <ferronica> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/12768
[11:47] <ferronica> u will find i hav 3 hdd ok
[11:47] <ferronica> one sata and three IDE
[11:48] <mtv> hi..
[11:48] <Znortfl> Hello, Znort here again. Now synaptic sais my index is broken. Anything to fix that?
[11:48] <ferronica> feugan333:
[11:48] <DevGet> Hi! Anyone that has heard of an gdesklet like application that collects all files you have on your desktop and put them in a small list on the desktop, so your desktop is clean for programs?
[11:49] <poningru> kranebitt5: hmm doesnt look like you can dude they dont give out linux drivers for that it seems
[11:49] <DevGet> I have realized that I need an app like that...
[11:49] <kranebitt5> which means I have no chance...
[11:50] <poningru> kranebitt5: sorry dude
[11:50] <patrick24601> I am trying to install compiz and getting error messages like: compiz: Depends: libcairo2 (>= 1.0.2-2) but 1.0.2-0ubuntu1.1 is to be installed
[11:50] <ferronica> feugan333: please solve my problem everytime i hav to change my boot device from CMOS ,if i wanna to use XP or ubuntu
[11:50] <patrick24601> Does that mean my version of libcairo is too new ?
[11:50] <poningru> kranebitt5: this is for 3d accel right? cause you can just get normal vid using the vesa drivers or the hacked together sis drivers
[11:51] <kranebitt5> right, it's just for 3d everything else works fine.
[11:51] <ferronica> feugan333: ok be right back within 20 miniutes ok
[11:51] <BlueEalge> kranebitt5: you _can_ send an email (or a thousand) to the manufacturer and ask for linux drivers.
[11:51] <Smarty> http://s5.bitefight.net/c.php?uid=27402
[11:51] <Smarty> please look this error :(
[11:51] <kranebitt5> that is actually not a bad idea
[11:52] <St_Iron> hello
[11:52] <kranebitt5> would you send it to Sis or to Fujitsu Siemens
[11:52] <kranebitt5> ?
[11:52] <anto9us> DevGet, I'm not sure what you're asking for, you want something like a folder with a list of contents instead of an icon?
[11:52] <poningru> kranebitt5: both
[11:53] <kranebitt5> Ok, I'll try that.
[11:53] <kranebitt5> And, poningru, do you know an easy way to get wine running on an amd64?
[11:53] <poningru> basically tell siemens that you are not happy since they used a hardware that is not well supported, and a letter to\
[11:53] <DevGet> auth00: yes, like files listed in a folder but on the desktop with the desktop-folder
[11:53] <poningru> the sis just yelling
[11:54] <poningru> kranebitt5: ... sorry dude no clue
[11:54] <kranebitt5> ok but thank you.
[11:54] <poningru> kranebitt5: you looked through the wiki right?
[11:54] <Smarty> http://s5.bitefight.net/c.php?uid=27402 :(
[11:55] <anto9us> DevGet, you've confused me even more now
[11:55] <kranebitt5> Yes I did, and in most of them they simply tried to set up a whole new 32bit system within the 64bit one
[11:55] <kranebitt5> crazyness
[11:55] <DevGet> anto9us: I will draw an image that explain...
[11:56] <Znortfl> My apt index seems to be broken. How do I repair it?
[11:57] <BlueEalge> znortfl: what makes you think that it's broken?
[11:57] <Znortfl> BlueEagle: Synaptic sais so
[11:57] <t2g7th7b> Hi there, Can I install ubuntu on VMware
[11:57] <zizie> hello ... my server ip = <IP_ADDRESS> ( gateway for client ) how to foward incomming packet to ip <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[11:57] <Knelix> Can I get GNOME 2.14 while in Breezy?
[11:58] <BlueEalge> znortfl: Does it say "Your index is broaken" or does it give another error message?
[11:58] <RootSnatch> t2g7th7b: yes you can
[11:58] <Znortfl> BleuEagle: yes
[11:59] <t2g7th7b> great , can setup an FTP server on it and access it over the network
[11:59] <Knelix> How can I get it?
[11:59] <BlueEalge> znortfl: Are you able to install packages with other tools?
[12:00] <Znortfl> BlueEagle: not tried yet, but build-essential keeps whining about libc6-devel which I cant install in any way that came up
[12:00] <anto9us> zizie, you want to forward connections for a specific port from your router or your system is acting as the router?
[12:00] <kickfacce> can someone tell me why xmms won't play music i had my onboard audio disabled then enabled it again and now it won't play through it my default sound device selected is the one its plugged into
[12:00] <zizie> i mean foward "some bad request" like a udp flood etc etc
[12:01] <zizie> anto9us : mean foward "some bad request" like a udp flood etc etc
[12:01] <anto9us> zizie, from your router?
[12:01] <BlueEalge> o.O
[12:01] <anto9us> zizie, my router will email them to me
[12:01] <Frogzoo> Knelix: not easily
[12:01] <zizie> ISP ---- cable modem ---- server (<IP_ADDRESS> ) ----hub/switch ---- Lan ( 192.168.1.x )
[12:01] <DevGet> anto9us: http://gustav.egy.nu/desk.gif <- 2 desktops, the left is how it's now, the reight is how I want it, the small circle at the bottom is a program launcher
[12:01] <zizie> cause my server got udp flood :(
[12:02] <BlueEalge> zizie: all servers gets udp flooded at some point or another.
[12:03] <BlueEalge> zizie: What you want is to firewall all inbound ports except the ones you really want people to access.
[12:03] <kickfacce> anyone have any ideas of how i can make xmms play through the correct sound card?
[12:03] <anto9us> DevGet, ok, I understand that now, am looking for a solution
[12:04] <Znortfl> BlueEagle: There's absolutely no way I can install other packages
[12:04] <BlueEalge> kickfacce: Use the preferences to choose the output device you want.
[12:04] <Knelix> Frogzoo: So basically it would be easier to just install Dapper?
[12:04] <zizie> is there any software that i can istall/setting from apt-get intall some_packaged_name ?
[12:04] <BlueEalge> znortfl: Then I do not know.
[12:04] <fyrestrtr> zizie: what?
[12:04] <kickfacce> BlueEalge, i don't see where to select it
[12:04] <GrDs> hi
[12:05] <Znortfl> BlueEagl:e Although I dont know what I did... it worked =S
[12:05] <GrDs> anyone familiar with firestarter ?
[12:05] <kickfacce> BlueEalge, nevermind i got it
[12:05] <BlueEalge> kickfacce: press CTRL+P and choose "Configure" button ear the bottom.
[12:05] <fyrestrtr> mmm maybe :)
[12:05] <BlueEalge> kickfacce: :)
[12:06] <GrDs> where does firestarter get active connections from ?
[12:06] <kickfacce> BlueEalge, is it the same way with vlc?
[12:06] <fyrestrtr> GrDs: from the device that is currently your gateway (you select the device on setup)
[12:06] <BlueEalge> kickfacce: I don't know. Try it.
[12:06] <GrDs> I have active connections still showing in the list while they arent for real
[12:06] <feugan3333> Anyone installed mplayer on dapper?
[12:07] <GrDs> hello
[12:07] <GrDs> anyone knows about firestarter active connections ????
[12:07] <BlueEalge> feugan3333: #ubuntu+1
[12:08] <feugan3333> BlueEalge: Ah ok
[12:08] <BlueEalge> grds: It lists connections that has been recently active afaik.
[12:08] <BlueEalge> grds: either that or check netstat
[12:09] <GrDs> but where does it get them
[12:10] <GrDs> i want to reset the list
[12:10] <GrDs> there is no active connections, so this must be in some text file
[12:13] <patrick24601> I am trying to install compiz and getting error messages like: compiz: Depends: libcairo2 (>= 1.0.2-2) but 1.0.2-0ubuntu1.1 is to be installed
[12:13] <patrick24601> Does that mean my version of libcairo is too new ?
[12:16] <anto9us> Devget, I've broken my Desktop trying to swallow nautilus into a panel, couldn't see a gdesklet or adesklet to solve it though
[12:21] <naranha> should i use internal agpgart with the ati drivers, or the one from the kernel?
[12:23] <cerberus> How do you get modemlights to show up on a gnome panel, I click add to panel but there is no modemlights option.
[12:25] <patrick24601> a modem - what's that? :)
[12:26] <Frogzoo> patrick24601: now now patrick24601, we don't all have T1s
[12:29] <KenJoey> Hello
[12:29] <cerberus> Both google and the ubuntu forums have turned up blank
[12:29] <KenJoey> I am using Ubuntu LiveCD and need to become super-user. What's root password for LiveCD?
[12:30] <cerberus> there isn't one, just sudo su while logged in
[12:31] <KenJoey> Thanks.
[12:31] <cerberus> no prob
[12:31] <KenJoey> Is it possible that I run out of memory while using LiveCD?
[12:32] <kandinski> hey, does the wine in AMD64 ubuntu run 32bit windows programs well?
[12:32] <naranha> should i use internal agpgart with the ati drivers, or the one from the kernel?
[12:33] <kandinski> I am thinking of installing Drake on a relative's computer, but she needs to use a couple of windows programs
[12:34] <KenJoey> I have 640MB memory, but I heard LiveCD needs minimum 128MB memory. Anyway, when I run out of memory, should I use swap file/partition on a hard disk?
[12:34] <hyphenated> kandinski: you'd have to actually run the program to be sure how well it works in wine. it works great for some things, and awful for others
[12:34] <hyphenated> KenJoey: uh.. 640 > 128. what's the problem?
[12:35] <cerberus> I think he means 64MB
[12:35] <kandinski> hyphenated: it does work in wine on intel32 ubuntu breezy
[12:35] <hyphenated> kandinski: so install breezy ;-)
[12:35] <kandinski> hyphenated: the question is whether wine for win32 works on the AMD64 dapper (I don't know)
[12:35] <hyphenated> kandinski: it's best if you talk about dapper in #ubuntu+1 tho
[12:35] <kandinski> can dapper already mix ah, thanks for the tip
[12:36] <kandinski> hyphenated, cool name for a channel (I did not know)
[12:36] <kandinski> I guess I asked here five weeks too early
[12:36] <hyphenated> kandinski: it's mentioned in the topic, but most users don't read it
[12:36] <anto9us> DevGet, I see no easy way of getting what you want, sorry
[12:36] <kandinski> hyphenated: guilty as charged. IT scrolled off too fast
[12:37] <hyphenated> kandinski: yeah, like 99% of people that come here ;-)
[12:37] <hyphenated> kandinski: it's also hard to predict how well things work on AMD64 compared to i386, because they're different enough to have their own sets of problems. until something's actually run, it's just a guess
[12:38] <KenJoey> hyphenated: I am thinking what I should do in case I run out of memory using LiveCD. I'll give a friend of mine a copy of Ubuntu LiveCD to try Linux. I want to make sure it works on his computer.
[12:39] <kandinski> hyphenated: thanks. I just don't want to install my niece's computer with something that doesn't work and needs a reinstall. Selling Linux is being hard work already.
[12:40] <Revolution> do IDE's with a visual editor exist for Java?
[12:40] <slackern> hmm what would be the proper command to show the loginmanager selector, the one where you could choose from xdm/gdm/kdm and so on.
[12:41] <KenJoey> This LiveCD is really cool. I'd like to make my own customized LiveCD ;)
[12:42] <hyphenated> Revolution: eclipse?
[12:43] <KenJoey> Ah, I just found out that LiveCD automatically detects and mounts a swap partition from the hard disk
[12:44] <jenda> What's a good place for desktop backgrounds? I find gnome-look very annoying in the number of clicks one has to go through in order to see a single paper...
[12:45] <martyn> What is the eastes way to see if java is working once it is installed?
[12:45] <jguenth> Is the Ubuntu-kernel used by Dapper somehow patched?
[12:45] <ali_> hey all
[12:45] <jguenth> I want to compile 2.6.17 from kernel.org and wonder if I will miss some things then.
[12:46] <jenda> martyn: try running limewire or azureus...
[12:46] <jenda> martyn: or frostwire...
[12:46] <martyn> jenda: ok
[12:46] <Jimmey__> Where's my Breezy ( firefox ) bookmarks at?
[12:47] <jenda> Jimmey__: I think it should be something like .mozzila/firefox/profiles/blah blah.default
[12:47] <Jimmey__> Thanks
[12:47] <ali_> im having so much fun setting up a ubuntu server!!
[12:49] <osa> \list
[12:49] <jenda> What's a good place for desktop backgrounds? I find gnome-look very annoying in the number of clicks one has to go through in order to see a single paper...
[12:50] <lsuactiafner> why would ubuntu only see hdb (dvd disk) but not hda but all my sata disks are shown?
[12:50] <lsuactiafner> and how wouldi create hda using mknod?
[12:51] <MenZa> Does Ubuntu come with IRSSI?
[12:51] <jguenth> jenda: just google for wallpaper
[12:51] <jguenth> jenda: or free wallpaper
[12:51] <Jimmey__> jenda, or use blender/gimp to bust out your own ;)
[12:51] <bimberi> MenZa: yes, installed by default
[12:51] <jguenth> MenZa: yes
[12:52] <MenZa> Goody.
[12:52] <ali_> must say that the standard brown wallpaper isnt nice
[12:52] <jenda> jguenth: I get the impression that if I add 'free' it's going to give me tons of paid sites...
[12:52] <jenda> MenZa: Huzzah!
[12:52] <lsuactiafner> jenda : deviantart.com
[12:53] <jenda> ali_: in fact, i rather like it, but it doesn't work well with a transparent terminal, and I'm p for a change...
[12:53] <jenda> lsuactiafner: will check, thanks.
[12:53] <MenZa> jenda: :D
[12:53] <Jimmey__> jenda, my terminal rocks
[12:53] <Jimmey__> Would you love to see it
[12:53] <Jimmey__> ?
[12:53] <jenda> Jimmey__: sure
[12:53] <ali_> i go for standard all black, easier to work wiv
[12:53] <jguenth> jenda: digitalblaspemy.org should had nice backgrounds last time I looked for wallpapers.
 jenda: digitalblaspemy.org <-- Agreed.
[12:54] <hyphenated> apart from the site being spelt wrong..
[12:54] <jguenth> should be blasphemy , shouldn't it?
[12:55] <jguenth> I don't remeber...
[12:55] <ali_> ive got simplymepis on another machine, transparent menus overlap, not nice, cant read a thing
[12:55] <hyphenated> I can't make either work, actually
[12:55] <jenda> jguenth: will check, thx
[12:56] <jenda> Jimmey__: it didn't work... mind tryin' agin?
[12:58] <ali_> me thinks keyboard needs recharging
[01:00] <BearPerson> jenda, not really
[01:00] <lsuactiafner> bleh
[01:00] <jenda> K-doke
[01:00] <BearPerson> but right now I hang on all larger channels so I spot spambots faster
[01:00] <skpl> can someone help me? i am having trouble getting java to work in my browser
[01:01] <jenda> BearPerson: I see. I'm a spambot...
[01:01] <ali_> skp1: mozilla?
[01:01] <BearPerson> though they seem to have diminished of late, we're probably getting more efficient fighting them
[01:02] <jenda> skpl: firefox? I know of one way that never failed me: easyubuntu - but it's not too widely supported in this channel, so it's for you only if you're interested in something that does the work _for_you_, not a way to do it yourself...
[01:02] <jenda> BearPerson: congrats :) I might soon be the only spambot left...
[01:03] <scorpion> hello.who i can put diferent wallpapers in diferents desktops?
[01:03] <ali_> will hav work blog for 'blackbox' project online soon
[01:03] <ali_> hopefully....
[01:04] <BearPerson> jenda, though few spambots have a 25-week-old nick, several alternates, and a couple of channels registered ;-)
[01:04] <scorpion> hello.who i can put diferent wallpapers in diferents desktops?
[01:05] <jenda> BearPerson: Well, I'm very good at it, you know?
[01:05] <animato> is there a way to remove the xubuntu-desktop after installing it on ubuntu?
[01:05] <Jimmey__> sudo apt-get --purge remove xubuntu-desktop
[01:05] <jenda> animato: sudo apt-get --purge remove xubuntu-desktop
[01:05] <scorpion> hello?
[01:05] <jenda> ah...
[01:05] <telim> I have a little problem with my tv card , with xawtv I have the image on a chan and on the next chan I have the sound is it normal
[01:05] <telim> how can I setup this to have sound and image
[01:05] <jenda> scorpion: I think that requires a 3rd party app.
[01:06] <ali_> would like to try xubuntu, havnt played wiv ityet. Any good??
[01:06] <Jimmey__> ali_, yes.
[01:06] <scorpion> ok,thanks
[01:06] <jenda> ali_: I've heard good things about it. It's very lightweight.
[01:06] <lsuactiafner> how do i determine a module name in the kernel for IT821X IDE support?
[01:06] <Jimmey__> How can I copy directories with the terminal?
[01:06] <ali_> would be intresting to try it on blackbox
[01:07] <animato> jenda, does that only uninstalls the xubuntu-pacakge itself?
[01:07] <animato> i want to remove xfce completly
[01:07] <roryy> Jimmey__: you can use 'cp -R'.  I also recommend investigating rsync
[01:07] <jenda> animato: I think it removes completely... but I never tried. You might want to do a little search at wiki.ubuntu.com
[01:07] <animato> ok thanx
[01:07] <jenda> np
[01:08] <^geekgirl^> my GPL codes at -> http://usuarios.lycos.es/sosweet19/
[01:08] <ailean> is it possible to run the mplayer plugin for mozilla smoothly?
[01:08] <scorpion> how i can enter to xat spanish?
[01:08] <roryy> !es
[01:08] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:11] <ali_> does anyone find that rythembox, doesnt alwas close properly?
[01:11] <jenda> BearPerson: check out ^geekgirl^, seems to be a spambot to me...
[01:11] <ali_> or work well wiv the vu meter
[01:12] <Kwipper> I haven't used Ubuntu yet and I was wondering something about the OS.
[01:12] <ailean> dont ask to ask, just ask :)
[01:13] <Kwipper> How easy can you install programs into the OS.
[01:13] <ailean> programs that are meant for ubuntu, VERY easily
[01:13] <ailean> just select them from a menu
[01:13] <ailean> they install over the net
[01:14] <ali_> with apt-get install and synaptic, very easily
[01:14] <jenda> Kwipper: any particular programs you want to know about?
[01:14] <Kwipper> Is it as simple as windows where all you have to do is download the executable, run the executable with a click of a mouse button (or two clicks), choose where you want it to go on your hard drive and click "Install"
[01:14] <jenda> Kwipper: it's easier
[01:14] <scorpion> espaol?
[01:14] <jenda> !es
[01:14] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:14] <ailean> #ubuntu-es
[01:14] <Kwipper> What about programs that aren't made for ubuntu?
[01:14] <scorpion> ok
[01:14] <ailean> you can run a lot of windows prorams using a linux program called wine
[01:14] <jenda> Kwipper: all you need is to type "sudo apt-get install <name of program>
[01:15] <ailean> www.winehq.com
[01:15] <ali_> as long as there .deb, still very easy with dpkg
[01:15] <ben_underscore> Kwipper, imagine in windows that you had an application installation management tool that listed thousands of applications you could choose to install. there is very little that is non-ubuntu or that does not have an equivalent
[01:15] <jenda> Kwipper: and you don't have to worry about where it is installed on your drive, because Ubuntu takes care of that...
[01:15] <Kwipper> Hmm okay
[01:16] <ben_underscore> Kwipper, what are you running at the moment?
[01:16] <ailean> i was running football manager on my box this morning
[01:16] <Kwipper> Windows XP
[01:16] <ali_> Kwipper, get a live cd and have a play
[01:16] <Kwipper> Where?
[01:16] <rukuartic> Kwipper: Whoo! Another person interested in 'buntu!
[01:16] <ben_underscore> Kwipper, you can download an ISO and burn a disc.
[01:16] <ali_> kwipper: www.ubuntu.com
[01:16] <Kwipper> Hmm.. how about running it off of a 512 MB Flash Drive
[01:16] <jenda> Kwipper: and those that aren't available through the central package management system (over 16000 packages), you can often download teh .debs, as ben mentioned. Those work similar to ,exe installers.
[01:16] <Kwipper> Is that possible?
[01:17] <ailean> yes, it's possible
[01:17] <jenda> It is... but a little more advanced me thinks
[01:17] <rukuartic> Kwipper: Good fer you. By the way, you can dual boot as well. I won't bother with explain' it, but you can set it up so you can choose whether you want to boot into XP or Ubuntu if you choose
[01:17] <ailean> yep :)
[01:17] <lsuactiafner> !kernel
[01:17] <rukuartic> Kwipper: The Live CD works well though, you can just sit there and run Ubuntu without making any changes.
[01:17] <ailean> i run both ubuntu and windows Kwipper
[01:17] <ali_> I run a 8-way boot, ubuntu was installed last and it took care of everything
[01:17] <ailean> and i can access my windows side from ubuntu
[01:18] <Kwipper> I'll check it out then
[01:18] <lsuactiafner> where can i get the .config of the latest breezy kernel for i686?
[01:18] <jenda> Kwipper: have a look at this: http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/about-ubuntu/C/index.html
[01:18] <roryy> lsuactiafner: it's usually in the linux-headers-* packages, isn't it?
[01:18] <ben_underscore> Kwipper, and if you want a list of download sites, go here http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[01:18] <rukuartic> Kwipper: Can you tell we get excited about new people?
[01:18] <ailean> i take it no one has had the mplayer plugin running smoothly then?
[01:18] <jenda> Kwipper: it's the documentation teams draft for people just like you...
[01:19] <roryy> lsuactiafner: e.g., I see a .config at /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-k7/build/.config
[01:19] <jenda> rukuartic, Kwipper welcome to ubuntu... you are user number 1 568 423...
[01:19] <lsuactiafner> roryy : will look, though i got 6.16.5 here, dont really want to download another package just for one file
[01:19] <lsuactiafner> oh thanks roryy
[01:19] <ali_> Kwipper: plus the ubuntu community is alwas here to help
[01:19] <Kwipper> Thanks
[01:19] <ailean> that's true . . . there are never less than about 300 people in this room :)
[01:19] <rukuartic> Thats what makes us better than the other distros, we actually help people instead of RTFM'ing them
[01:20] <lsuactiafner> heh not on this pc though, weird
[01:20] <roryy> lsuactiafner: that file is part of the linux-headers-whatever package
[01:20] <jenda> ailean: I haven't seen less that 600 for a long time...
[01:20] <jenda> BearPerson: bingo
[01:20] <rukuartic> Kwipper: Out of intrest, how do you connect to the internet?  Wireless?
[01:21] <BearPerson> jenda, huh?
[01:21] <ailean> jenda, i haven't been paying attention :) i just remember 300 when i first used ubuntu
[01:21] <jenda> BearPerson: * ^geekgirl^ has quit (K-lined)
[01:21] <Kwipper> Cable connection
[01:21] <Znortfl> Apt-get keeps whining about libc6-devel which I cant install due to a "broken pipe". This is keeping me googling/irc'ing the whole day. Anybody has any idea how to solve this?
[01:21] <rukuartic> Kwipper: So do you connect with an ethernet card or wireless?
[01:22] <Kwipper> Built in Ethernet
[01:22] <ali_> my os's: windows xp /server 2003, solaris 10, ubuntu, simplemepis, slax KB, bsd and aLinux!!!!!
[01:22] <rukuartic> Kwipper: Ah, ok. Good! :P Ubuntu's just a little difficult to get working with wireless. They're fixing it in the next version
[01:22] <gnomefreak> Znortfl: sudo apt-get -f install  (no packages type it as i did)
[01:22] <lsuactiafner> roryy : can you quickly upload me the .config file somewhere? am on a very slow link, which has no bandwidht left atm
[01:22] <roryy> lsuactiafner: i'll put it on the pastebin. Standby