[12:07] <ikonia> arvind_k: he can't fix a grub error, do you think he's recompiled his kernel.....
[12:07] <DistroJockey> ubuntu_: you have a linux live cd handy?
[12:07] <arvind_k> ikonia, are you following him
[12:07] <sdakak> I am trying to install ubuntu over network. I have got dhcp server running and my client machine does get an ip from it. Then the client machine looks for the file /pxelinux.0 or something and then just sits there.
[12:08] <arvind_k> ikonia, well he didnt mention grub error :)
[12:08] <ikonia> arvind_k: yes, he installed ubuntu and now he's got a grub error/syslog start up error about not being able to mount a partition
[12:08] <McJerry> when I type 'date' my system reports correct time. I have two cron jobs running that output text files, the files are stamped with a creation date exactly one hour ahead. What do I need to do to sync the system time with the cron job file creation time?
[12:08] <Dr_willis> roffe__,  that version does not run propelry on this ubuntu box.  looks like its a bust.
[12:08] <roffe__> Dr_willis: If I didn't do anything wrong it couldn't accept the command ines -help
[12:08] <roffe__> ok.. thanks for helping!
[12:08] <arvind_k> ikonia, shall i help him
[12:08] <Dr_willis>  ./ines   -help
[12:09] <Dr_willis> Killed
[12:09] <Mad-Freaky> hi all
[12:09] <ikonia> arvind_k: if you want.
[12:09] <Dr_willis> What a lovely error message that is.
[12:09] <sdakak> ikonia: Can you please look over my problem?
[12:09] <Mad-Freaky> small problem
[12:09] <arvind_k> ikonia i would love to
[12:09] <roffe__> haha
[12:09] <Mad-Freaky> when im doing "clamscan --version" i get "clamscan: error while loading shared libraries: libclamav.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[12:09] <ikonia> Dr_willis: looks like a very early glibc dependeny
[12:09] <arvind_k> ubuntu_ you around??
[12:09] <Lamego> McJerry, cron is managed by the  system clock already
[12:09] <ikonia> Mad-Freaky: your missing a libaray
[12:09] <MGS88> yes
[12:09] <ricanelite> is SATA 3.0Gb/s are SATA II?
[12:09] <ikonia> sdakak: what's up ?
[12:09] <arvind_k> ikonia, seems like he is gone
[12:10] <sdakak> ikonia: I am trying to install ubuntu over network. I have got dhcp server running and my client machine does get an ip from it. Then the client machine looks for the file /pxelinux.0 or something and then just sits there.
[12:10] <MGS88> i change my name ubuntu>MGS88
[12:10] <Mad-Freaky> jeah i know that thx but i cannot install it
[12:10] <ikonia> sdakak: have you setup the pexeboot daemon and the pexe image to boot it ?
[12:10] <McJerry> lamego: what would cause the described behavior then? why are the files being created with times one hour ahead of system time yet the cron jobs are running as scheduled?
[12:10] <arvind_k> MGS88, were you the one having the grub errror
[12:10] <hcoal> can mutt or any other text-based email client connect to a microsoft exchange mailbox?
[12:10] <ikonia> hcoal: no
[12:10] <Mad-Freaky> i have to mention im a pretty noob at ubuntu
[12:10] <sdakak> I have tried following many howtos I am stuck. Please tell me how to check that.
[12:11] <pheriod_> anyone tried 8.04 LTS?
[12:11] <ikonia> pheriod_: everyone in #ubuntu+1
[12:11] <pheriod_> :)
[12:11] <sdakak> ikonia: ^
[12:11] <ikonia> sdakak: which how to are you following
[12:11] <Lamego> McJerry, are those fast processes ? any change they could take 1h to run ?
[12:11] <tuna> I'm having a weird problem with apache. I have a php file that starts with <? header("Content-Type: application/xhtml+xml; charset=utf-8") ?>, but when I load it from apache, it says Content-Type: text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1. How can i debug this?
[12:11] <ikonia> tuna: join #apache
[12:11] <bullgard4> Can you recommend a comprehensive listing of the Gutsy changes towards Feisty?
[12:11] <MGS88> arvind_k -->what you mean?
[12:11] <ikonia> tuna: bottom line if php is not installed/configrued on your server
[12:11] <Lamego> McJerry, did you by any chance override the user TZ by setting the TZ environment variable ?
[12:11] <ikonia> bullgard4: change log
[12:12] <tuna> ikonia: php certainly works, I have been working with dynamic pages all day.
[12:12] <arvind_k> MGS88, there was a guy here having problem with his grub,his name was ubuntu thought it was you
[12:12] <Lamego> bullgard4, read the gutsy release notes ?
[12:12] <MGS88> yes he is me
[12:12] <ikonia> bullgard4: there is a quick summary http://www.ubuntu.com/GetUbuntu/releasenotes/710
[12:13] <ikonia> tuna: ok - so off to #apache then
[12:13] <sdakak> ikonia: this one http://mywheel.net/blog/index.php/ubuntu-network-install/
[12:13] <arvind_k> MGS88, ok so boot from your live cd and mount the partition where you installed ubuntu
[12:13] <ikonia> sdakak: thats a VERY old how to, it's referencing ubuntu 5.10
[12:13] <Sturmy> hello
[12:14] <Auctionedllama> Hey can someone get me the command to edit xorg.conf inside of terminal
[12:14] <Auctionedllama> I forget it, lol
[12:14] <Lamego> Auctionedllama, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:14] <arvind_k> MGS88, then chroot onto the mounted partition and say grub-install /dev/hda (assuming the drives are hda)
[12:14] <ikonia> Auctionedllama: sudo $editor /etc/X11.xorg.conf
[12:14] <DistroJockey> Auctionedllama:  sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:14] <Auctionedllama> thanks mates
[12:14] <MGS88> how <Im beginner>
[12:15] <arvind_k> MGS88, get a pen and paper and write down these commands
[12:15] <sdakak> ikonia: Can you suggest a better one.
[12:15] <Mad-Freaky> ikonia: jeah i know that thx but i cannot install it
[12:15] <MGS88> thanks <arvind_k>
[12:15] <ikonia> sdakak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot?action=show&redirect=PXEInstall
[12:15] <ikonia> Mad-Freaky: know about what sorry ?
[12:15] <arvind_k> MGS88, where did you install ubuntu by the way
[12:16] <ikonia> sdakak: also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallServer?highlight=%28pxe%29
[12:16] <McJerry> Lamego: these are fast processes, the run immediately. How can I check the TZ variable for the current user?
[12:16] <Mad-Freaky> when im doing "clamscan --version" i get "clamscan: error while loading shared libraries: libclamav.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[12:16] <Mad-Freaky> you said missing a library
[12:16] <Lamego> McJerry, echo $TZ
[12:16] <ikonia> Mad-Freaky yes, your missing shared libraries
[12:16] <bullgard4> ikonia: Excuse me. I made a typing error. I should have written: "Can you recommend a comprehensive listing of the Gutsy changes towards Hardy?"
[12:16] <arvind_k> Auctionedllama, use gksu for editing
[12:16] <Mad-Freaky> ikonia: jeah i know that thx but i cannot install it
[12:16] <ikonia> bullgard4: same thing, change log
[12:16] <ikonia> Mad-Freaky how did you install clamav ?
[12:16] <Mad-Freaky> from console
[12:16] <Mad-Freaky> apt-get
[12:16] <arvind_k> ikonia DistroJockey arent we supposed to use gksu for editing xorg
[12:17] <ikonia> Mad-Freaky: then the library should be installed, you must have deleted it
[12:17] <ikonia> arvind_k: only with graphical editors
[12:17] <Mad-Freaky> how do i re-install it
[12:17] <arvind_k> ikonia, you mean with gedit??
[12:17] <ikonia> Mad-Freaky: apt-get remove
[12:17] <ikonia> arvind_k: no - I mean with any X11 based editor
[12:17] <McJerry> Lamego: echo $TZ yields blank, nothing is set
[12:17] <DistroJockey> Arelis: you still there?
[12:17] <ikonia> bullgard4: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron/Beta/
[12:17] <Lamego> McJerry, ok, i am out of suggestions :(
[12:18] <McJerry> Lamego: no problem, thanks for the input
[12:18] <ricanelite> does amarok download podcasts?
[12:18] <bullgard4> ikonia: Thank you.
[12:18] <Mad-Freaky> ikonia: i get "no such pakket" (freely translated)
[12:18] <ikonia> Mad-Freaky: than you've not named the package correcly
[12:19] <ikonia> Mad-Freaky: dpkg -l | grep -i clam (see what the package is called)
[12:19] <Arelis> DistroJockey: yes
[12:19] <Mad-Freaky> libclamav3
[12:19] <hcoal> ricanelite: yes it does, check under playlists
[12:19] <ricanelite> ok
[12:19] <ikonia> Mad-Freaky: thats not a package name, thats a library
[12:20] <Arelis> DistroJockey: you helped me further.  Because in nexuiz, modifier keys don't work
[12:20] <DistroJockey> Arelis: nice :)
[12:21] <Arelis> DistroJockey: In Nexuiz, modifier keys are just regarded as normal keys
[12:21] <DistroJockey> Arelis: was just about to reply to your post, and just to help others. Add details if you like and mark as solved maybe?
[12:22] <DistroJockey> Arelis: I know nothing about tablets :)
[12:23] <roffe__> what does ./ really do?
[12:23] <DistroJockey> roffe__: current directory
[12:24] <roffe__> yeah, but like the guy did earlier ./ines to execute the program
[12:24] <roffe__> sry, for being unclear
[12:24] <ricanelite> amarok is not seeing my ipod and Banshee is
[12:25] <DistroJockey> roffe__: means ines would need to be in the current directory, is needed at times
[12:25] <Arelis> DistroJockey: what i wrote in the topic: I got a bit further by examining the xsetwacom and wacomcpl tools. Seems you can bind custom keybindings to a key. So you can bind one to a modifier key (such as alt), and then have them behave differently when you hold that key. Problem is, nexuiz (and most other games) use modifier keys as normal keys, so when you, for example, want to assign that modifier key + button1 in nexuiz, it thinks you want t
[12:25] <roffe__> ok.. thanks!
[12:25] <mjanisz> is there any ncurses-like interface with c++ bindings?
[12:25] <Dr_willis> roffe__,  for security reasons the 'current directory' is not in the default PATH of executables. Like it is under windows/dos
[12:26] <DistroJockey> roffe__: np,  pwd   will print the current working directory (for reference) :)
[12:26] <roffe__> there's probably a good reason for that... lame people like me =)
[12:27] <DistroJockey> Arelis: ahh
[12:27] <roffe__> thanks... All the info I can get... love it :)
[12:27] <gregory> mjanisz: try a devel channel
[12:27] <Auctionedllama> Hey guys
[12:27] <DistroJockey> roffe__: :)
[12:27] <Arelis> DistroJockey: so do you know the solution to -THAT- one?
[12:27] <mjanisz> gregory: that would be #ubuntu-devel?
[12:28] <DistroJockey> Arelis: nope sorry, not even know what nexuiz is yet :)
[12:28] <Arelis> DistroJockey: it's a first person shooter game.
[12:28] <Auctionedllama> I have a question, I installed ATI drivers and I go to run catalayist center and it says that it can't run.. also I try to run aticonfig --initial in terminal and it can't write to xorg.conf.. it says bad descriptor.. please help here guys
[12:28] <gregory> mjanisz: no, its not for application development
[12:28] <Mad-Freaky> ikonia: thx got it
[12:28] <DistroJockey> Arelis: thought as much, but nope, sorry
[12:29] <gregory> mjanisz: how about google: ncurses c++ binding
[12:30] <mjanisz> that gives me ndk-xx, but it doesnt seem to be any working revision
[12:30] <razi> what
[12:30] <mjanisz> latest rev is 0.0.1alpha3
[12:31] <mjanisz> therefore i'd like to find something ncurses-like, has to display a simple menu
[12:31] <gregory> mjanisz: changes are not good in this channel
[12:33] <gregory> mjanisz: s/changes/chances
[12:33] <Auctionedllama> I have a question, I installed ATI drivers and I go to run catalayist center and it says that it can't run.. also I try to run aticonfig --initial in terminal and it can't write to xorg.conf.. it says bad descriptor.. please help here guys
[12:34] <MGS88> hi
[12:35] <DistroJockey> MGS88: wb
[12:36] <MGS88> its not work
[12:36] <DistroJockey> MGS88: the drive?
[12:37] <szbalint> Hello. Has anyone experience with a dell d830 laptop's suspend problems or would know who to turn to in this matter?
[12:37] <Viele-baeren> hi
[12:37] <Sylvarant> hello
[12:38] <bazhang> szbalint: suspend is the holy grail of linux; if you get it you are golden--many have given up the quest
[12:38] <szbalint> yeah true
[12:38] <szbalint> I'm very close though
I not fund the drive
[12:39] <helpme> hi i have a problem rescuing my data described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?s=fdb5c9817b6c0e981166c20e5dc3518f&p=4730577#post4730577 if someone can help....?
[12:39] <szbalint> resume sometimes works, sometimes dies with a blank screen & unresponsive keyboard & 'LINU' written in the top left corner
[12:39] <arvind_k> bazhang, :) i can suspend :)
[12:39] <arvind_k> MGS88, from the live cd run fdisk -l
[12:40] <MGS88> I m on live cd
[12:40] <arvind_k> MGS88, run the command fdisk -l
[12:41] <Dr_willis> sudo may or may not be needed. :) normal install/system its needed.. live cd..  Not sure
[12:41] <szbalint> so I've been wondering whether anyone encountered this particular sympthom, 'LINU' looks strangely familiar
[12:41] <Dr_willis> i never use hibernate/suspend
[12:41] <MGS88> arvind_k--> then
[12:41] <arvind_k> MGS88, and paste the output in pastebin
[12:41] <bazhang> hmm linu... nah doesn't ring a bell
[12:41] <arvind_k> !paste
[12:41] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[12:41] <arvind_k> !paste > MGS88
[12:42] <MGS88> what is pastebin
[12:43] <Dr_willis> pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel.
[12:43] <bazhang> MGS88: a way to avoid getting kicked ;]
[12:43] <szbalint> oh well, thanks anyway
[12:44] <grom358> hey can I have a computer with one physical network device act as a router (I have a hub)?
[12:44] <helpme> ...someone???
[12:45] <bazhang> helpme: please descirbe the issue a bit here thanks
[12:45] <grom358> I've seen servers with eth0:0 and eth0:1 at work. Any pointers on how you can setup such a thing?
[12:45] <matkaryo> how to use compiz?
[12:46] <bazhang> install the 3d drivers for your cards and then install ccsm matkaryo
[12:46] <DistroJockey> !compiz matkaryo
[12:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about compiz matkaryo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <Dr_willis> enable it.. enjoy the wiggly windows...
[12:46] <DistroJockey> !compiz | matkaryo
[12:46] <ubotu> matkaryo: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[12:46] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:46] <DistroJockey> hehe
[12:47] <Dr_willis> the wife made me disable the wiggly windows for her.. it made her queezy:)
[12:47] <grom358> also.. can you use a machine that already has ubuntu updates to update another ubuntu machine?
[12:48] <bazhang> grom358: you have the computer connected by ethernet and it also has a wifi device that you want to use as a hotspot? something like that? please describe with some exactitude what you have in mind
[12:48] <moya> I don't have /etc/bash_completion in hardy, how can I have it again ?
[12:48] <arvind_k> grom358, that would be difficult
[12:48] <manos21> Hi. I'm trying to setup mythtv but I'm getting the message "CANNOT LOGIN TO DATABASE?" Any idea?
[12:48] <DRebellion> moya, /join #hardy+1 for hardy discussion please
[12:48] <Dr_willis> grom358,  if you have a network of ubutnu machines. it may be worth wile to set up a 'caching server' for the updates. they are stored in /var/cache/apt/ if you wanted to copy them to a dofferent machine you could do that.
[12:48] <DRebellion> moya, /join #ubuntu+1 for hardy discussion please sorry
[12:48] <grom358> bazhang: actually I don't have wifi setup on this network. So I would only be using the 1 ethernet device
[12:48] <Dr_willis> grom358,  ive copied /var/cache/apt/ from one machine to other machines befor.
[12:49] <bazhang> manos21: have you asked in #ubuntu-mythtv yet? they really rock in that regard
[12:49] <bazhang> grom358: and how would the other computers be connected?
[12:49] <grom358> Dr_willis: yeah I'm trying ubuntu out atm. Just wondering in case I decide to replace gentoo with ubuntu
[12:49] <grom358> Dr_willis: got ubuntu on a VMware install
[12:49] <manos21> bazhan: Thanks. I'll try that
[12:50] <grom358> bazhang: I got all the computers connect to hub. The ADSL modem also connects to the hub. The modem has DHCP server and currently acts as the gateway. But I've been having some network problems and I want to monitor all incoming/outgoing traffic
[12:52] <grom358> bazhang: so what you think?
[12:53] <scientist_363> \j #linuxac
[12:53] <scientist_363> \j # linuxac
[12:55] <bazhang> grom358: ah act as router; I was immediately thinking of an ad hoc connection device--likely can be done let me check the forums for a sec
[12:56] <grom358> yeah.. so I have it be the router to see all traffic right?
[12:56] <grom358> in other words, there no way to listen to other machines traffic?
[12:58] <bazhang> grom358: the links I get are for the computer to act as a wireless hub; not sure what to do in your case--you want to shape traffic or somesuch?
[12:58] <orphee> salut francis
[12:58] <Andrew``> hi all....
[12:59] <grom358> bazhang: well I have seen virtual ethernet devices (eg. eth0:0 eth0:1) setup before.. but I know jack about that.
[12:59] <grom358> bazhang: I want to be able to run ntop or wireshark and make sure there is no spyware or virus using up bandwidth
[13:00] <helpme> bazhang: First i had problem with grub "error 17" but after several tries didn't work...So i tried Super grub disk ,didn't work either... After a while (by mymistake) i started playing around with the option of the S.G.D and ithink i've done it worse..i dont have windows installed only ubuntu but because of playing around some thing might not be what it looks like...a guy on irs told me that i'm missing a partition starting at block 1and ending a
[13:00] <grom358> or background process for that matter
[13:00] <bazhang> grom358: you said you saw it at work; any reason not to ask the engineers there how they do it?
[13:00] <dashdanw> connect irc.tddirc.net
[13:00] <dashdanw> disconnect
[13:00] <Andrew``> am currently using XP/Suse. I am getting sick of suse and have been recommended ubuntu. I have just been given a 500gig Ext HDD and was wondering how I can use the external with both windows and linux?
[13:01] <grom358> no.. other then humiliation
[13:02] <bazhang> Andrew``: you want to replace ms-suse? or just keep the former and replace the latter with ubuntu
[13:02] <misc__> hello... how do I know what package a certain file on my system belongs to?
[13:02] <Ausmosis> Hi... Just wondering if anyone might know why I am unable top access google all of a sudden??.. This started yesterday and google is the only webpage I cannot access. I'm using Gutsy
[13:02] <jatt> dpkg -S
[13:02] <Andrew``> I really want to replace suse with ubuntu
[13:02] <misc__> jatt: thanks
[13:02] <DistroJockey> grom358: this may help maybe? :  http://www.netkit.org/faq.html
[13:02] <bazhang> grom358: there are some networking wizards who come in here in a while (couple of hours) they would be the ones to ask
[13:03] <DistroJockey> grom358: specifically  tap  references
[13:03] <bazhang> Andrew``: you want to shift both to the external drive or use it as a shared drive
[13:03] <idefixs> Ausmosis, what's the error?
[13:04] <Ausmosis> idefixs, it simply says "Firefox can't find the server at www.google.com."
[13:04] <Andrew``> bazhang:  I want to share it :)
[13:04] <Yazan`> What the hell?? which guide will I choose?: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.10/internet/C/connect.html  I have a USB DSL modem that uses PPoE...?
[13:05] <idefixs> Ausmosis, have you tried other google URLs, like www.google.uk or alike
[13:05] <Yazan`> The PPoE or USB modem?
[13:05] <bazhang> Andrew``: then stick in the ubuntu disk, format the suse partition, install to it and you are good to go
[13:05] <Ausmosis> idefixs, my other computers don't have an issue so my router is fine.
[13:05] <miclen> hello
[13:05] <DistroJockey> Yazan`: USB ADSL first, but may aswell look at both
[13:05] <miclen> this that italian ?
[13:05] <Ausmosis> haven't tried the uk versions but the au version does the same thing
[13:06] <idefixs> Ausmosis, not saying it's your router. could be a DNS setup problem on your box
[13:06] <bazhang> miclen: you wish the italian ubuntu channel?
[13:06] <Orbixx> What is the best codec for playback of x264 video files?
[13:06] <Andrew``> bazhang:  I understand that.. what I want to know is.. how do I format the external so it isuable by both OS's
[13:06] <idefixs> Ausmosis, ok
[13:06] <Ausmosis> just tried uk and get the same response :(
[13:07] <Ausmosis> really strange as this only started yesterday as well. Prior to that I had no issues.
[13:07] <bazhang> Andrew``: what format is it now? ubuntu can read and write to ntfs drives
[13:07] <MGS88> arvind_k are you there
[13:07] <arvind_k> MGS88, yeah vey much
[13:07] <idefixs> Ausmosis, can you check whether you are using the same nameserver as the other PCs?
[13:07] <Ausmosis> I also tried using Galeon and getting the same error.
[13:07] <arvind_k> MGS88, did you patebin the output
[13:08] <grom358> also is there any ex-gentoo users here?
[13:08] <bazhang> grom358: we all are ;]
[13:08] <Ausmosis> grom358, yes I had gentoo for 4 years
[13:08] <DistroJockey> Ausmosis: what do you get it you   ping google.com  ?
[13:08] <linuxcbon> x264
[13:09] <grom358> cause I'm starting to think compiling everything is not worth the (small?) performance increase
[13:09] <Lainy> Could someone recommend a GUI application where I can (1) specify a list of file paths, (2) save these file paths, and (3) with the click of a "Backup Now" button copy all of these files to a specified directory? Thanks.
[13:09] <Ausmosis> DistroJockey, pinging google is fine :)
[13:09] <DJones> bazhang: You speak for yourself, I've never used Gentoo, although I did use Slackware for my 1st 6 months of linux experience :)
[13:09] <bazhang> DJones: just kidding; my bad ;]
[13:09] <DistroJockey> Ausmosis: what IP number does it give?
[13:09] <MGS88> do you can go to room
[13:09] <arvind_k> bazhang, well yeah me too i started right off with ubuntu
[13:09] <Ausmosis> grom358, I got sick of the compiling and to be honest I feel the speed with Ubuntu is even better than gentoo
[13:10] <Ausmosis> DistroJockey, <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:10] <DJones> bazhang: I guessed that :)
[13:10] <bazhang> just getting the offtopic out of my system before release week ;]
[13:10] <jane_weidlin> Ausmosis: would you consider that 4 years glorious with linux
[13:10] <idefixs> Ausmosis, same as i get - DNS is fine
[13:10] <DistroJockey> Ausmosis: nods, not the hosts file then I guess
[13:11] <Andrew``> bazhang:  I have no idea.. only got it tonight
[13:11] <Andrew``> I guess maybe windsows
[13:11] <arvind_k> MGS88, have you registered yourself
[13:11] <idefixs> Ausmosis, try http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[13:11] <linuxcbon> thats google
[13:11] <grom358> bazhang: my other option is to use my brother's windows box as the router cause it has 2 network devices
[13:11] <Yazan`> Anyone knows a solution for my problem can help me here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=757191
[13:11] <Andrew``> also, is there a list of what programs come with ubuntu?
[13:11] <Ausmosis> idefixs, using the ip address works. wtf!!!
[13:11] <Ausmosis> lol
[13:11] <idefixs> lol
[13:12] <bazhang> grom358: all the more compelling reason to get your situation fixed here
[13:12] <linuxcbon> maybe you didnt set your dns ?
[13:12] <Ausmosis> This is getting more confusing.
[13:12] <idefixs> linuxcbon, apparently he/she did
[13:12] <bazhang> Andrew``: it is a long list; unless you mean by default
[13:12] <MGS88> arvid_k-->what you mean
[13:13] <Andrew``> bazhang:  what comes on the CD/DVD?
[13:13] <helpme> bazhang: any hope?
[13:13] <grom358> actually what I would really like is to have some sort of QoS so I can give certain packets higher priority
[13:13] <savor21> Hi. I have a pctv 310e tv tuner and I'm frustrated as long as  I cannot find any drivers for linux. Is thera any possibility to make it?
[13:13] <idefixs> Ausmosis, try googling for google and click a link with google.com in it...
[13:13] <Ausmosis> jane_weidlin, Considering I been using linux since 1995... the 4 years were torture lol... well actually it was fun but I now need more time to do real stuff instead of tweaking my systems
[13:14] <arvind_k> MGS88, i sent you a PM....well get yourself registered .... jus type /msg nickserv register <password>
[13:14] <arvind_k> MGS88, do that in the server window not here :)
[13:14] <bazhang> Andrew``: if you dont know then the external drive is likely either fat32 or ntfs; and as far as the cd/dvd there is big difference--best to run the live cd and see for yourself--way too much to paste here ;]
[13:14] <Ausmosis> idefixs, just tried that and end result is the same error again
[13:15] <Ausmosis> strange how the IP works yet nameserver doesn't
[13:15] <Andrew``> bazhang:  is there not a www link to the list?
[13:15] <idefixs> Ausmosis, then i have no clue what this problem is. a workaround: make a bookmark to the IP
[13:15] <bazhang> grom358: sounds like traffic shaping
[13:15] <Ausmosis> yeah thats what I am going to do for now :)
[13:15] <bazhang> Andrew``: never thought to find out when I could just boot the livecd ;]
[13:15] <linuxcbon> you have dhcp ? what is your  /etc/resolv.conf
[13:16] <Lainy> Could someone recommend a GUI application where I can (1) specify a list of file paths, (2) save these file paths, and (3) with the click of a "Backup Now" button copy all of these files to a specified directory? Thanks.
[13:16] <Ausmosis> linuxcbon, you talking to me?
[13:16] <grom358> bazhang: yeah.. I would like to setup that. But my immediate goal is to monitor the traffic so I can check for spyware/viruses/ or background downloading
[13:16] <linuxcbon> yes aus
[13:16] <A_I_> hello
[13:16] <A_I_> does someone know a place where I can find a .deb for clamav-0.93 ?
[13:16] <Ausmosis> Let me check now
[13:16] <IdleOne> !info clamav
[13:16] <ubotu> clamav (source: clamav): antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.91.2-3ubuntu2.3 (gutsy), package size 856 kB, installed size 1284 kB
[13:17] <mze> t
[13:17] <bazhang> helpme: though you did provide some important info what was the messing around you did with the super grub disk? that was not entirely clear
[13:18] <arvind_k> A_I you can install it through apt-get / synaptic
[13:18] <A_I_> 0.93 ?
[13:18] <Ausmosis> linuxcbon, Entries include my router <IP_ADDRESS> and this PC <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:18] <A_I_> arvind_k
[13:18] <Ausmosis> nothing else
[13:19] <linuxcbon> it should include dns servers, for ex nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:19] <IdleOne> A_I_: there is probably not a package for the latest/greatest version but that is not always the best anyway. use the package in the repos
[13:19] <linuxcbon> it shouldnt include your pc
[13:19] <arvind_k> A_I 0.91
[13:20] <helpme> bazhang: i think i just "testing" the other options too...
[13:20] <A_I_> IdleOne the problem is that the earlier version have a security hole
[13:20] <IdleOne> A_I_: Ubuntu 8.04 hardy Heron has version 0.92
[13:20] <Ausmosis> linuxcbon, nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:20] <bazhang> grom358: seems like wondershaper and frogfoot are tools you should look into
[13:21] <linuxcbon> only router should be enough
[13:21] <A_I_> yes but only 0.93 has the fixe
[13:21] <Lainy> what is a good bakcup utility where can i specify individual files to backup
[13:21] <idefixs> Ausmosis, sounds weird however works correctly with ping.
[13:21] <DistroJockey> A_I_:  well, you could get it from here:  http://www.clamav.org/download/
[13:21] <fjfalcon> hello all, i have problem. When watching video sometomes this bug is looks to from any videoplayer - www.fjfalcon.ru/video.png . After restaring x server all is working great... How to fix this noisy bug?
[13:21] <Ausmosis> Well I am baffled as well...
[13:21] <bazhang> helpme: you did not commit any of these changes? you sure about that?
[13:22] <grom358> oh that eth0:0 thing I was talking about.. Just found its called IP aliasing
[13:22] <Ausmosis> linuxcbon, the entries are generated automatically by NetworkManager
[13:23] <DistroJockey> grom358: ahh :)
[13:23] <linuxcbon> try:  route add -net default gw <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:23] <helpme> bazhang: yes i also tried the other options the i wasn't actually needed....(stupid me) but i just want the email passwords
[13:23] <Ausmosis> I assume <IP_ADDRESS> is the DHCP IP address that is being assigned to me by my ISP.
[13:24] <A_I_> unfortunately clamav.org doesn't propose an uptodate package and I would have prefer to follow ubuntu's packages rather than building one myself
[13:24] <Sturmeh> we giving out free ip's now?
[13:24] <DistroJockey> A_I_: nods
[13:24] <joanne_f> hi
[13:24] <b4l74z4r> how do i check which version of flash i have?
[13:25] <linuxcbon> so did u try ?
[13:25] <sdakak> th
[13:25] <gregory> A_I_: ubuntu is not so much focused on the server yet, how about running another distro in a vm. i could imagine that probs with fixes for server software could pop up in the future too
[13:25] <hcoal> b4l74z4r: could you check the version in synaptic?
[13:26] <IdleOne> Ausmosis: <IP_ADDRESS> is your IP
[13:26] <Ausmosis> linuxcbon, yep and it's telling me the file exists
[13:27] <linuxcbon> ok
[13:27] <linuxcbon> route add -net default gw <IP_ADDRESS> netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:28] <joanne_f> hi
[13:28] <b4l74z4r> ok, i seem to have flash version 9,0,124,0 installed, does anyone know which version preceded it?
[13:28] <arvind_k> A_I did you try www.getdeb.net
[13:29] <fingers> #books
[13:29] <fingers> #ubuntu
[13:29] <Calllko> ?
[13:30] <alex__> jkjk
[13:31] <arvind_k> A_I did you try www.getdeb.net
[13:32] <lartza_> amsn keeps disconnecting me like every 2 mins and wont login back after I click cancel and login
[13:33] <MGS88> arvid_k --> where can I put the /msg nickserv register <your-password>
[13:33] <lartza_> amsn keeps disconnecting me like every 2 mins and wont login back before I click cancel and login
[13:34] <arvind_k> MGS88, in the tab where freenode is there onto your left had side
[13:34] <leandro> olá alguém poderia me ajudar com a instalação do emesene?
[13:35] <fevel> hi
[13:36] <fevel> I have a problem
[13:36] <Aariz> What's wrong?
[13:36] <MGS88> arvind_k--> I do /msg MGS88 register <MY PASS>
[13:36] <fevel> I changed the swap disk and now ubuntu doesnt recognize any swap
[13:36] <rick_> What is the best media player for high definition videos?
[13:36] <fevel> system monitor says 0 of 0 bytes for swap
[13:36] <Aariz> modify your /etc/fstab
[13:36] <rick_> I'm trying to play 1080p here and it's staggering along. My hardware is good enough to support it.
[13:37] <arvind_k> MGS88, its /msg nickserv register <password>
[13:37] <arvind_k> MGS88, after that do /msg nickserv identify <password>
[13:37] <Aariz> fevel: Hello
[13:38] <fevel> Aariz,  I dont know how to edit this file
[13:38] <jatt> !pt
[13:38] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[13:38] <MGS88> arvind_k--> oh thanks very  much
[13:38] <arvind_k> MGS88, thats ok
[13:38] <fevel> Aariz,  it doesnt say anything about swap
[13:38] <Aariz> fevel: I have a other way.
[13:38] <arvind_k> fevel, did you create a swap??
[13:39] <fevel> Aariz, # /dev/mmcblk0p1
[13:39] <fevel> UUID=e9cf92a0-b3b9-40ef-aa58-fd0f80d3f040 none            swap    sw              0       0
[13:39] <fevel> arvind_k,  yes
[13:39] <arvind_k> fevel then modify your fstab and mtab
[13:39] <cemc> hi
[13:39] <DistroJockey> fevel:  sudo swapon -a   (enables all swap partitions
[13:39] <Aariz> fevel: add "swapon /dev/xxx" in /etc/rc.local
[13:40] <cemc> i'm trying to download a nightly build with rsync, but i'm getting errors like 'connection unexpectedly closed'
[13:43] <Lainy> i installed sbackup but I can't run it. i get this problem a lot. that is, if install a program, how do i know its program name with which ican run it? i'm trying to run sbackup but i'm using fluxbox so i don't have an admin menu
[13:43]  * delcoyote hi
[13:44] <Flyzoola> hi guys, I have a question regarding root. I have files on a removable drive which are read only/ About a week ago, I was looking for ways to access those files and found a command that allows me to use root but in fileview form (as in not in the terminal) and I deleted those files which I needed gone. Now I didn't realize that ubuntu had a hidden trash folder, and I needed those files gone, now when I realized this i tried to get back into t
[13:44] <Toznoshio> What is the channel for Ubuntu Open Week?
[13:45] <aubade> Flyzoola: ~/.local/share/Trash (in 2.22 anyhow) or ~/.Trash.
[13:45] <Aariz> Lainy: You can look up look over which program include in package.
[13:45] <Flyzoola> Toznoshio: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[13:45] <wildman> hello there, my system (Ubuntu 7.10 x86 version) has 4GB of RAM, but 'only' 3.2GB are 'used' (displayed by "free" command as total mem), is installing the x86_64 version the only way one can make full usage of the 4GB?
[13:45] <Lainy> Aariz: How do I look that up? Thanks.
[13:45] <DistroJockey> Lainy: that's a pretty common problem, and I think that the main program filename should be listed in the package description
[13:46] <brandon__> yeesh... I have a fresh install of Gutsy
[13:46] <nevem> greetings! I need some help - cannot set widescreen resolution on my laptop (ubuntu 7.10)
[13:46] <Lainy> DistroJockey: apt-cache show sbackup?
[13:46] <brandon__> I'm on a T60.  my gigabit network card is not being recognized
[13:46] <Flyzoola> aubade: was that the command to gain the root access or does it just empty the trashbin
[13:47] <DistroJockey> Lainy: never really tried sorry
[13:47] <Aariz> Lainy: System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager.
[13:47] <Lainy> that's odd still can't find the name
[13:48] <shishio> hi guys hihihih
[13:48] <landmann> Flyzoola: run "sudo rm /home/username/.Trash/*"
[13:48] <brandon__> It is an Intel gigabit card, came with the T60.  Gutsy isn't seeing it at all.  I'm not finding anything in google about this problem either.
[13:48] <landmann> where username = the actual username.
[13:48] <aubade> Flyzoola: Oh, just where user trash is stored if you were using Nautilus as root, or whichever user.
[13:48] <Aariz> Lainy: Find you installed package, View properties.
[13:49] <aubade> You message kind of cut off so I guessed. X)
[13:49] <brandon__> Actually, I see a lot of articles via google about the network card appearing sometimes, and disappearing other times, but it has never shown once on this install so far
[13:49] <Aariz> fevel: How's it going?
[13:50] <Flyzoola> landmann: is without the /*? or is that just a wildcard?
[13:50] <Werdna> Flyzoola: wildcard
[13:50] <fevel> Aariz,  I got swap going by doing sudo swapon /dev/sda3
[13:50] <DistroJockey> Aariz: good tip about the properties, cheers
[13:50] <nicolas> yop
[13:50] <fevel> but now my fstab is all wrong
[13:51] <fevel> what used to be a data drive (sda3) is now swap
[13:51] <fevel> how can I recreate the fstab?
[13:51] <fevel> repopulate
[13:51] <nicolas> list
[13:51] <nicolas> arf
[13:51] <Lainy> sorry my computer crashed while trying to sun sbackupd
[13:51] <Lainy> did someone suggest how to run it?
[13:51] <Aariz> DistroJockey: :)
[13:52] <Lainy> ah nvm
[13:52] <Lainy> I found it
[13:52] <DistroJockey> Aariz: The main comand file/s are still not that obvious though
[13:53] <brandon__> Anyone know why the gigabit ethernet card on a T60 would not be detected in Gutsy Gibbon?
[13:53] <legend2440> fevel: type sudo fdisk -l in terminal and see which partition should be swap?
[13:53] <Flyzoola> can I use the command "sudo rm /media/disk/.Trash-root" to delete the folder? or do I need to go further into the directory to remove?
[13:54] <DistroJockey> Aariz: e.g. I did a  sudo apt-get install clamav  and then did  man clamav  , no man found :(
[13:54] <fevel> legend2440,  I already know ...its /dev/sda3
[13:54] <shanepardue> If one of my mounts from /etc/fstab crashed..how can I run fstab to mount them all again without rebooting?
[13:54] <hischild> Flyzoola, use the -R option with that as well if the folder isn't empty.
[13:54] <hischild> shanepardue, sudo mount -a
[13:55] <shanepardue> Hmm..I did that, but it isn'
[13:55] <shanepardue> t mounting for some reason
[13:55] <labcom> wenas
[13:55] <hischild> shanepardue, any errors?
[13:55] <shanepardue> nope
[13:55] <amacias> hola
[13:55] <hischild> shanepardue, what does mount give you when you type mount?
[13:55] <josuna> nas
[13:55] <Aariz> DistroJockey: Maybe, that package doesn
[13:56] <IdleOne> DistroJockey: install clamtk ( GUI )
[13:56] <HellBound> ubuntu not installing on my system wat to do now
[13:56] <FloodBot2> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[13:56] <kjdx> Hello I have a problem
[13:56] <HellBound> :(
[13:56] <sergiu14> hello, I want to access a GtkWiget  ( a entry field ) , from a button signal function ( eg. button clicked) , but the entry filed is declared in the main window form, which is not seen from the button signal. How can I connect them?
[13:57] <Daltvila> ----
[13:57] <kjdx> I put on a server ubuntu irc server but do not know how to defend from attack dos
[13:57] <practicas_> j
[13:57] <Flyzoola> hischild: what do you mean? there's folders (but they're read only) in the .Trash-root folder. That's what i need to get rid of. How do I type in the command? "sudo rm -r /media/disk/.Trash-root"?
[13:57] <DistroJockey> IdleOne: I'm ok, but I'm thinking of how new users may struggle a bit. Thanks though, will take a look :)
[13:57] <labcom> no me funciona el ubuntu AGHHHHH
[13:57] <HellBound> i need help pls someone help me
[13:57] <fevel> legend2440,  Is there a way I can rebuild my fstab?
[13:57] <labcom> i can help u
[13:58] <neve1> hello there once again! I would like to ask you for some help with my widescreen resolution problem
[13:58] <brandon__> Alright, anyone know where I can find the latest ubuntu driver for intel gigabit network cards?
[13:58] <gregory> sergiu14: wrong channel, try #gnome and then ask for gnome-programming channel
[13:58] <kjdx> What I could do or if you have a link for me to be able to understand how to set the server to prevent these attacks?
[13:58] <brandon__> 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller
[13:58] <hischild> Flyzoola, that'd be correct yes
[13:58] <IdleOne> DistroJockey: yeah the GUI should be a depend of the clamav package but up to MOTU
[13:58] <HellBound> :(
[13:58] <labcom_> weoeoe
[13:59] <sergiu14> ok gregory
[13:59] <labcom_> q peñazo de claseeeee
[13:59] <DistroJockey> IdleOne: can't even see it in Synaptic, looking at it now
[13:59] <practicas_> jaja
[13:59] <kjdx> You can solve this problem?
[13:59] <labcom_> jugamos a paella?
[13:59] <Daltvila> paella?
[13:59] <practicas_> como se juega?¿
[13:59] <Mez> amacias, ping
[13:59] <kloeri> labcom_, practicas_: please speak english in here
[13:59] <legend2440> fevel: do you have something like fstab.bak in /etc?
[13:59] <IdleOne> DistroJockey: apt-cache search clamav it should be listed
[13:59] <jussi01> !es | practicas_
[14:00] <ubotu> practicas_: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[14:00] <lol> asereje
[14:00] <DistroJockey> IdleOne: my bad, I was searching for clamav ;P
[14:00] <practicas_> speak english??? why??
[14:00] <labcom_> pues cada uno es un alimento diferente y cuando se nombra hay que levantarse
[14:00] <shanepardue> So "mount -a" should mount everything in my fstab?
[14:00] <shanepardue> even nfs shares
[14:00] <practicas_> jaja, yo no se si me voy a levantar aqui al ladito de este hombre eeeeh
[14:00] <practicas_> jajaja
[14:00] <jussi01> !en | practicas_
[14:00] <lol> ere un fistro pecadorl!
[14:00] <labcom_> unos arroz
[14:00] <labcom_> otros gambas
[14:00] <labcom_> otros verduras
[14:00] <kloeri> practicas_: this is an english speaking channel
[14:00] <ubotu> practicas_: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[14:00] <fevel> legend2440,  no
[14:00] <labcom_> que infancia más triste!
[14:01] <erUSUL> !ops | labcom_ lol
[14:01] <ubotu> labcom_ lol: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[14:01] <labcom_> no jugabais a eso en el cole?
[14:01] <practicas_> yo no tronco
[14:01] <erUSUL> kloeri: practicas_ too, please
[14:01] <legend2440> !paste | fevel (can you pasrebin your fstab?)
[14:01] <Mez> erUSUL, already done
[14:01] <ubotu> fevel (can you pasrebin your fstab?): pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[14:01]  * erUSUL thankfull
[14:02] <polysilicon> which software can be used for capturing videos from webcam???
[14:02] <erUSUL> Mez: i saw it when i hitted enter ;)
[14:02] <kjdx>
[14:02] <kjdx> Please help me a link where I can understand how defend from attack my dos irc server know someone give me some help?
[14:02] <OllieH> can someone help me with the problems im getting when i try to install ubuntu?
[14:03] <Prefix> How do I install font files?
[14:03] <Lamego> kjdx, irc server is a very specific piece of software, nothing that most of us can help with, read your software documentation
[14:03] <HellBound> hello i need help plz help
[14:03] <widescreenhelppl> need help with widescreen resolution problem
[14:04] <OllieH> need help with this error: An error occurred while writing the changes to the storage devices. The resize operation is aborted.
[14:04] <HellBound> ubuntu installation problem
[14:05] <helder> Hello
[14:05] <Flyzoola> the command "sudo rm -r /media/disk/.Trash-root" didn't work when removing the files. This is what the terminal tells me 'rm: cannot remove /media/disk/.Trash-root/file': read only file system
[14:05] <erUSUL> !font |  Prefix
[14:05] <HellBound> no one here who can help me
[14:05] <HellBound> :(
[14:05] <erUSUL> !ask | HellBound
[14:05] <ubotu> Prefix: Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto - No fonts in Flash? Install "msttcorefonts" (from !Multiverse), "gsfonts", and "gsfonts-x11". No fonts in MPlayer? see !MPlayer
[14:05] <ubotu> HellBound: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[14:06] <koma_> how to transfer documents between two os in vbox please?
[14:06] <Prefix> ty erUSIL
[14:07] <thomas> I would like to report a bug with the default calculator in Ubuntu 8.04 beta when the thousands separators are turned on. What happens is I end up with multiple separators in a row between numbers.
[14:07] <HellBound> ubuntu not installing on my system
[14:07] <HellBound> ubuntu 7.10
[14:07] <erUSUL> !bugs | thomas
[14:07] <ubotu> thomas: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[14:07] <Flyzoola> which command do I use now? or what is the command to get root access on the file browser?
[14:07] <widescreenhelppl> is anyone available for some discussion about my widescreen resolution problem?
[14:08] <erUSUL> HellBound: any specific error? can you describe what and how is failing?
[14:08] <sdakak> Would a desktop installation cd work with tftp or do I only need the alternate cd?
[14:08] <DracoZA> what screen is it widescreenhelppl ?
[14:08] <HellBound> no error
[14:08] <OllieH> When I use the live cd to try and shrink my windows partition I get this error: "Resize operation Failure
[14:08] <OllieH> an error occurred while writing the changes to the storage devices.
[14:08] <OllieH> The resize operation is aborted." This happens on both my internal and external harddrive, i am currently defragging my internal as it is very very fragmented, so i suspect thats the problem, but my external isnt fragmented at all, and it is nearly completely on the "left" of the disk and I still get the error
[14:08] <koma_> can sb hear me
[14:08] <erUSUL> Flyzoola: if the filesystem is read only not even root can delete the files
[14:08] <HellBound> just busy box opens and do something and then hangs
[14:08] <widescreenhelppl> 1280x800 lcd
[14:08] <DracoZA> laptop ?
[14:08] <thomas> erUSUL: I'll report it there. Thank you.
[14:09] <sdakak> ikonia: there?
[14:09] <widescreenhelppl> yes
[14:09] <widescreenhelppl> have i965 video card
[14:09] <DracoZA> whats the problem widescreenhelppl ?
[14:09] <sdakak> erUSUL: ikonia: Would a desktop installation cd work with tftp or do I only need the alternate cd?
[14:09] <legend2440> HellBound: have you tried alternative cd? sometimes that works when livecd won't
[14:09] <widescreenhelppl> the highest available resolution is 1024x768@30
[14:09] <HellBound> where i will find alternative cd
[14:10] <widescreenhelppl> i mean the highest offered by ubuntu
[14:10] <DracoZA> widescreenhelppl have you checked that the resolution you want is in xorg.conf ?
[14:10] <widescreenhelppl> yes it is
[14:10] <HellBound> i downloaded the iso file from ubuntu site and burn it on cd
[14:10] <erUSUL> Flyzoola: you have to remount it rw (sudo mount -o rw,remount /mount/point )
[14:10] <Flyzoola> erUSUL: so there's no way to get rid of files on a removable drive that's got a hidden trash bin in it? Surely there must be a way to delete the files, I mean, I was able to do it before with that command (as in send read-only file to hidden trash bin) but now I can't find it. I'm pretty certain that that could fix it
[14:10] <erUSUL> !alternate | HellBound
[14:11] <ubotu> HellBound: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[14:11] <DracoZA> widescreenhelppl have you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[14:11] <Ongaku> hi how to do run a .sh file/
[14:11] <widescreenhelppl> yes, many times
[14:11] <jatt> ./sh file
[14:11] <erUSUL> Flyzoola: as i said you first have to munt the fs read write
[14:11] <Lamego> Ongaku, sh file.sh
[14:11] <Alp`> is there a way to get a list of all installed programs? i plan to install ubuntu 8 instead of upgrading, because my system performance is very low at the moment
[14:11] <Ongaku> lamego: ok thank you
[14:11] <jatt> ./file
[14:11] <LjL> !cloning > Alp`    (Alp`, see the private message from Ubotu)
[14:11] <legend2440> HellBound: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download there is a box to check for alternative cd
[14:11] <Lamego> to run it with /.file, it must be set executable, chmod u+x file
[14:11] <Ongaku> lamego: cannot open
[14:12] <DracoZA> widescreenhelppl sorry then this newbie cant help more than that, I have 7.10 running on a few laptops with no problems, all Acers
[14:12] <Ongaku> lamego: oh ok
[14:12] <Alp`> LjL: thanks alot
[14:12] <Alp`> !automate
[14:12] <ubotu> Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[14:12] <helder> how can I open a .qrp (quickreport for delphi) file in ubuntu ?
[14:12] <widescreenhelppl> DracoZA thanks anyway
[14:12] <LjL> Alp`: if you're changing versions, you should probably not follow that factoid to the letter (as replicating the exact packages selection you had will likely get you in trouble). but anyway, that command gives you the list you want
[14:12] <arvind_k> any idea where can i find a linker for a ALP to work
[14:13] <OllieH> Anyone? D:
[14:13] <Flyzoola> erUSUL: what exactly does that mean. And is the directory you gave me just "X" (meaning I have to replace it with my own [sudo mount -o rw,remount /media/disk/   ?]) or is it the one I need to do it for?
[14:13] <OllieH> When I use the live cd to try and shrink my windows partition I get this error: "Resize operation Failure an error occurred while writing the changes to the storage devices.
 The resize operation is aborted." This happens on both my internal and external harddrive, i am currently defragging my internal as it is very very fragmented, so i suspect thats the problem, but my external isnt fragmented at all, and it is nearly completely on the "left" of the disk and I still get the erro
[14:13] <erUSUL> Flyzoola: sudo mount -o rw,remount /media/disk/ <<< that's it yes
[14:14] <DracoZA> Any ideas why I am getting: Failed to modify password entry for user username error whenever I use smbpasswd -a username ?
[14:16] <HellBound> if i upgrade my bios then my lice cd will work
[14:16] <ikonia> DracoZA: can it talk to the samba backend ?
[14:16] <Flyzoola> erUSUL: ok, so I typed in that command, what exactly did it do? and can i type in sudo rm -r /media/disk/.Trash-root now   ?
[14:17] <sdakak> ikonia: will the tftp method work with a desktop live cd or do i only need the alternate cd?
[14:17] <erUSUL> Flyzoola: it remounted (hopefully) the filesystem read write you have to be able to write to delete files (you can not delete on a cdrom; can you?)
[14:17] <ikonia> sdakak: should work with any pxe image you create
[14:17] <erUSUL> Flyzoola: if that failed we have to find out why the filesystem is mounted read only
[14:18] <acomaco> hey..
[14:18] <DracoZA>  ikonia I can only seem to run the command on users already created
[14:18] <Prefix> Hellbound, whats when does the livecd hang?
[14:18] <Flyzoola> erUSUL: what do you mean remove from cdrom? I am trying to delete from a mass storage device.
[14:18] <ikonia> DracoZA: ahhh so this is on a new user
[14:18] <acomaco> My cron keeps on sending me messages even tough i removed my email address..
[14:18] <koma_> anybody there
[14:19] <erUSUL> Flyzoola: it was just an example of a clearly read only filesystem
[14:19] <DracoZA> ikonia yup, do I have to add the user via users and groups first, I just want to give them remote access
[14:19] <ikonia> DracoZA: the password does not relate to real unix users and groups
[14:20] <arvind_k> any idea where can i find a linker for a ALP to work ....
[14:20] <DracoZA> ikonia *confused look* how would I go about creating a remote access user then ?
[14:20] <ikonia> arvind_k: ld is the linker
[14:21] <demonspork> I am trying to use the mkraid command, but it doesn't seem to exist on my ubuntu system, what do I use in place of it?
[14:21] <Flyzoola> erUSUL: ok, so now it's telling me it can't find the deirectory?
[14:21] <ikonia> DracoZA: I'm not quite understanding, you do need to have a matching unix account for the samba account
[14:21] <arvind_k> ikonia, so with nasm i create the .obj's and link them with ld??? and then how do i debug??
[14:21] <ikonia> DracoZA: but the samba password does not link to the unix password
[14:21] <erUSUL> Flyzoola: can you see it (ls /media/disk/* )
[14:21] <DracoZA> ikonia ok that answers my question, the user has to be created and then smbpasswd -a... correct ?
[14:22] <ikonia> DracoZA: yes
[14:22] <ikonia> arvind_k: its' assembl
[14:22] <ikonia> arvind_k: its' assembly
[14:22] <DracoZA> ikonia thanks
[14:22] <DracoZA> ikonia will an unprivileged account work fine ?
[14:22] <arvind_k> ikonia, yeah ...
[14:22] <ikonia> arvind_k: you don't have to use a linker, but if you really want to then you can use ld
[14:22] <sdakak> ikonia: while following that guide, I can't start my dhcp server. It says "fail"
[14:22] <Alp`> LjL: yes, i dont plan to replicate all packages, but the list is very useful
[14:22] <ikonia> DracoZA: you'll need to be root and run it
[14:22] <Flyzoola> erUSUL: yes I can, which is why I find it weird that the terminal can't
[14:23] <ikonia> sdakak: what does the log say
[14:23] <Toznoshio> Q: My ISP is filtering incoming SSH at the protocol level, what options do I have in Gutsy to defeat that? Maybe tunneling within some other protocol, I guess ... but I'm lacking ideas
[14:23] <arvind_k> ikonia,well in MASM we use a linker
[14:23] <ikonia> arvind_k: try using ld
[14:23] <erUSUL> Flyzoola: check again you havent' made a typo
[14:23] <sdakak> ikonia: where will i find it?
[14:23] <ikonia> Toznoshio: ssh is what you use to tunnel
[14:23] <arvind_k> ikonia, sure
[14:23] <DracoZA> ikonia sorry I meant the new user, for remote can they be unprivileged
[14:23] <ikonia> sdakak: /var/log/messages
[14:23] <arvind_k> ikonia, thanks
[14:23] <ikonia> arvind_k: not a problem (I'm basic with assembly - so I'm not going to be too much use)
[14:23] <sdakak> ikonia: Oh it's huge.
[14:23] <ikonia> DracoZA: totally
[14:24] <DracoZA> thx again
[14:24] <Toznoshio> ikonia, yes but nobody can get to my SSH server from the internet is my point
[14:24] <ikonia> sdakak: so look through it for stuff relating to dhcp
[14:24] <arvind_k> ikonia, do you know any channerl around for the help by the way
[14:24] <ikonia> Toznoshio: so speak to your isp
[14:24] <tuxilan> hallo
[14:24] <ikonia> arvind_k: no idea of the top of my head
[14:24] <arvind_k> ikonia, :) i like that subject
[14:24] <arvind_k> any channel around for ALP
[14:25] <ikonia> arvind_k: again no idea, this isn't the best place to ask
[14:25] <ggeecko_> is there a way i can make aterm always on top
[14:26] <Flyzoola> erUSUL: ok, I think I got it. Now i have another question, i tried transfering a folder to the removable drive and it's telling me that I don't have permission to write to that folder. How do I copy the file over??
[14:26] <sdakak> ikonia: I can't find anything useful.
[14:26] <sdakak> ikonia: it doesn't talk about any failure with dhcpd
[14:26] <erUSUL> Flyzoola: can you paste the output of "cat /proc/mounts" on a pastebin ??
[14:27] <ikonia> sdakak: restart dhcp then look at the bottom of the log
[14:27] <LjL> Alp`: a thing you'd possibly find useful would be also to only list those packages which aren't installed as dependencies of other packages. « deborphan -a » should achieve that
[14:27] <erUSUL> !paste | Flyzoola
[14:27] <ubotu> Flyzoola: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[14:27] <gregory> ggeecko_: right click on the window title  then choose stay on top
[14:27] <LjL> (should, not necessarily does...)
[14:27] <ggeecko_> gregory: it is borderless
[14:27] <Flyzoola> so type in cat/proc/mounts?
[14:28] <sdakak> it doesn't say anything useful just Apr 17 18:57:48 demo-laptop dhcpd: Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Server V3.0.5
[14:28] <sdakak> Apr 17 18:57:48 demo-laptop dhcpd: Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium. and more.
[14:29] <siMN> are all you guys using irc from linux?
[14:29] <sdakak> ikonia: ^
[14:29] <ikonia> sdakak: does ps -ef | grep dhcpd show it as running ?
[14:29] <erUSUL> Flyzoola: yep
[14:29] <gregory> siMN: why you ask ?
[14:29] <sdakak> yes, but if i try to start and stop it then both steps say fail.
[14:30] <ikonia> sdakak: does ps -ef | grep dhcpd show it as running yes/no ?
[14:30] <sdakak> ikonia: yes
[14:30] <ikonia> sdakak: ok - so it's running and the problem is the init script doesn't know about it
[14:30] <sdakak> ikonia: when i say /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server start|stop both steps say fail.
[14:30] <sdakak> ikonia: would a reboot work?
[14:30] <ikonia> sdakak: yes, because they don't know it's running, dhcpd-server is just a script
[14:31] <ikonia> sdakak: a reboot should put it back to a known status
[14:31] <Spydon> Does the swap partition help to do so the partitions doesnt get fragmented?
[14:31] <sdakak> ikonia: let me try.
[14:31] <ikonia> Spydon: no
[14:31] <erUSUL> Spydon: no
[14:31] <Lamego> Spydon, swap has nothing to do with fragmentation
[14:31] <Alp`> LjL: thx
[14:31] <Spydon> Lamego, ok thx
[14:31] <Lamego> !defrag | Spydon
[14:31] <ubotu> Spydon: The default Ubuntu filesystem (ext3) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases, see http://linkpot.net/behead/ for a simple example on how it achieves this. A package "defrag" is available in !Universe, however its use is not safe, and is generally not needed.
[14:32] <user1> i want to host my website my self. what do i need to iiinstall to make my pc as webserver ?
[14:32] <gregory> user1: apache2
[14:32] <Lamego> user1, apache2 or any other web server available on the repositories
[14:32] <ikonia> user1: apache, you also need valid dns setup and an ISP that will allow you to host a website, although your performance will be quite poor
[14:32] <Lamego> it depends on your needs
[14:32] <user1> gregorah apache2 is the latest version?
[14:33] <user1> ikonia why it will be poor
[14:33] <gregory> user1: what ikonia said is very important
[14:33] <ikonia> user1: because you'd be on a home DSL connection, that is not a good setup for webhost
[14:33] <user1> Lamego what choices for web server apps do i have and what is better
[14:33] <user1> ikonia you mean slow spped?
[14:33] <ikonia> user1: what is better is your personal preference, what you need, only you can asnwer that
[14:33] <user1> speed*
[14:34] <ikonia> user1: yes, speed will be slow, and potentially persistant connections will be unstable
[14:34] <user1> ikonia i need great veriety of features
[14:34] <ikonia> user1: you may also get into trouble and "kicked" off your ISP
[14:34] <erUSUL> user1: apache; cherokee, lighttp etc...
[14:34] <ikonia> user1: be specific
[14:34] <ikonia> user1: you will also need a static IP address
[14:34] <user1> ikonia 'i need an app that has most features'
[14:35] <Lamego> not really, he can use a dynamic dns service
[14:35] <ikonia> user1: your not making any sense
[14:35] <user1> ikonia dyndns.com can take care of ips
[14:35] <user1> ikonia web stats, customisation, etc.
[14:35] <gregory> user1: what is your background with computers? whats your experience?
[14:35] <b4l74z4r> i installed flash from a tar.gz file, how do i uninstall it?
[14:35] <ikonia> user1: "customisation" is not a requirment, what technologies do you require for your website
[14:35] <user1> ikonia "featurefull app" is the word
[14:35] <ikonia> b4l74z4r: rm it
[14:35] <ikonia> user1: that is not a requirment
[14:36] <powertool08> ikonia: isn't that sort of webserver setup sufficient for a low hit page where only you and maybe a few (~20 or less) use it?
[14:36] <arvind_k> ikonia, ld is the linker :)
[14:36] <user1> ikonia i need all suport for future upgrading. e.g php cgi asp
[14:36] <ikonia> user1: I want a recipe, I like a wide varity of food and want something that is full of relevant food
[14:36] <b4l74z4r> ikonia, i don't know where it is
[14:36] <ikonia> user1: that is not a webserver
[14:36] <ikonia> b4l74z4r: then your screwed
[14:36] <ikonia> b4l74z4r: next time use the package manager
[14:36] <ikonia> user1: go away, thank about what technologies your website will require then we can map out the packages
[14:37] <ikonia> user1: also firstly, contact your isp and make sure you are allowed to host a website on it
[14:37] <user1> ikonia i am a newbie
[14:37] <user1> ikonia isp have no problme
[14:37] <ikonia> user1: that doesn't' change anything I've just said
[14:37] <user1> ikonia what points should i consider to look at then
[14:37] <user1> ikonia what could be my requirments
[14:37] <ikonia> user1: all the points I've listed
[14:38] <user1> ikonia what could be my requirments
[14:38] <ikonia> user1: I don't know your requirments, only YOU know YOUR requirments
[14:38] <legend2440> b4l74z4r: is there a read or install file in the gz file that says where it is going to install flash?
[14:38] <b4l74z4r> legend2440, no, there was no readme file
[14:39] <Lainy> does anyone know of a program that can allow me to save multiple file paths and copy them into another directory with the click of a button? thanks.
[14:39] <user1> ikonia ok.
[14:39] <jrib> b4l74z4r: check ~/.mozilla/plugins/ and /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ for a libflashplayer.so file.  Before deleting, check that 'flashplugin-nonfree' is indeed not installed.  If you can't find libflashplayer.so, run 'sudo updatedb && locate libflashplayer.so'
[14:39]  * Ted` http://ircx.forum0.info/ <--- plz register :) thanx
[14:39] <user1> ikonia i have talked this before too here. just need to see what you have to say about it :   using linux,i have some friends sharing my internet. i have 30k vacant and 3 friends. is there a way that i define the combine band limit for 3 users combined as 30 k . not 10k for each. that way if 2 are  online they can share 15k each. and if all 3 are online. they will be spreaded 10k each in managed behaviour. any way.i have a dlink switch. and in futer i may tak
[14:39] <user1> by wondershaper or ebox. or any other, what i have in mind is 30k for 3 users. if all are online 10k is given to each. if 2 are online 15k to each. 1 then 30k to him. and other 4th user gets 20k seperat dedi bandwidth.. how can i do it?
[14:39] <Ted`> http://ircx.forum0.info/ <--- plz register :) thanx
[14:40] <Twim4> Lainy ))))
[14:40] <Ted`> http://ircx.forum0.info/ <--- plz register :) thanx
[14:40] <erUSUL> Lainy: a panned file browser like midnight commander
[14:40] <jrib> Ted`: don't advertise here
[14:40] <ikonia> user1: what you are asking for would be better by purchasing a router with traffic shaping built in
[14:40] <Twim4> midnight commander is a terminal program or?
[14:40] <ikonia> Twim4: curses
[14:41] <user1> ikonia i want to use my pc as router
[14:41] <ikonia> user1: you would be much better off with a hardware solution
[14:41] <Twim4> ikonia what do u mean?
[14:41] <CoasterMaster> user1, if you really want to attempt this, you can check out m0n0wall, but it can be a pain to get everything up and running
[14:42] <erUSUL> Twim4: yep
[14:42] <ikonia> Twim4: its an ncurses app
[14:42] <user1> ikonia ok but how can i do it with an app
[14:42] <Twim4> erUSUL Lainy wants to do this with mouse on one click
[14:42] <erUSUL> user1: dedicated to only routing?? then use something like ipcop or zeroshell or untangle
[14:43] <ikonia> user1: you would need a qos iptables setup, a router solution for a home setup would be more approrpiate
[14:43] <user1> CoasterMaster monowall is an app or firewal?
[14:43] <Lainy> Twim4: yeah and to be able to save all the file paths..sbackup backups the files into a zip file (which I can't even extract), so that isn't helpful
[14:43] <erUSUL> Twim4: weel i do not even understand exactly what he wants
[14:43] <user1> erUSUL hm ya
[14:43] <legend2440> b4l74z4r: is this the file you used to install? install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz
[14:44] <CoasterMaster> user1, it's a firewall + router app for FreeBSD, it's pretty damn advanced (and I don't know if you can use the computer for things other than a firewall when using it), the website is here http://m0n0.ch/wall/
[14:44] <Lainy> erUSUL: i'd like to specify several file paths and to copy all these files into a directory.. and to be able to save this action so in the future, i can hit a "Backup now" button to copy all those specified files automatically
[14:44] <sertac> hi  can anybody help me about instaling wus-300 driver to 7.10
[14:44] <sertac> ?
[14:44] <user1> CoasterMaster ok.
[14:45] <erUSUL> Lainy: make a script that backups those files and call it from terminal or via a launcher
[14:45] <Lainy> lol if i could script
[14:45] <Lainy> i will give it a try, thanks
[14:45] <user1> CoasterMaster ikonia erUSUL , what the easy to setup things, qos with ip tables. or monowall or pcop or zeroshell or untangle ? which one i should go with?
[14:45] <chris062689> Are there any SNES emulators in the repos that go through the command line?
[14:45] <LjL> chris062689: zsnes
[14:46] <chris062689> ok thanks.
[14:46] <mosoli> oLAAA
[14:46] <mosoli> Alguem porai ???
[14:46] <mosoli> agleu mdo Brasil
[14:46] <erUSUL> user1: ipcop zeroshell and untangle all provide web based configuration interface similar of the ones found on comercial routers
[14:46] <Lamego> !br | mosoli
[14:46] <ubotu> mosoli: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[14:46] <mosoli> Algum brazuca porai ?
[14:46] <erUSUL> user1: to configure and monitor the router function
[14:46] <erUSUL> !br | mosoli
[14:47] <Alp`> would you recommend to upgrade ubuntu 7 to 8, or to make a fresh install (my home folder is on a seperate partition)?
[14:48] <ikonia> n
[14:48] <ikonia> oops
[14:48] <user1> erUSUL ic.
[14:49] <user1> CoasterMaster ikonia erUSUL , what apps are used most for such things?
[14:49] <m3333> how do u get a Gnome or KDE enviroment running on Ubuntu Server?
[14:49] <wangdw201> 你们说什么呢
[14:49] <erUSUL> user1: what things? routing?
[14:49] <user1> CoasterMaster ikonia erUSUL , i would go for a most used one maybe, for good suport in future
[14:49] <Lainy> !zh | wangdw201
[14:49] <ubotu> wangdw201: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道： #ubuntu-cn 或者 #ubuntu-tw  或者 #ubuntu-hk
[14:49] <erUSUL> !cn | wangdw201
[14:49] <ikonia> user1: iptables, but for you I STRONLGY recommend buying a hardware router with this solution built in
[14:49] <user1> erUSUL ya
[14:49] <user1> ikonia hm
[14:49] <shandy> join #django
[14:49] <erUSUL> user1: routing is done mainly by the kernel itself
[14:50] <user1> CoasterMaster ikonia erUSUL , i saw monowall, screenshot looks impresive
[14:50] <CoasterMaster> user1, yeah a hardware router definitely is the best solution...yeah m0n0wall is very powerful, but kind of a pain to configure
[14:50] <user1> erUSUL ic
[14:50] <ikonia> user1: monowall is a firewall
[14:50] <bazhang> m3333: just sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop
[14:50] <CoasterMaster> but it also works as a router
[14:50] <user1> ikonia it will do it?
[14:50] <ikonia> CoasterMaster: I don't think it can link into qos modules though
[14:50] <ikonia> CoasterMaster: don't quote me on that though
[14:50] <MGS88> hi
[14:51] <user1> ikonia the routing i mean
[14:51] <b4l74z4r> i had to downgrade the latest flash to 0.9.48 in order to get hardware acceleration in fullscreen youtube
[14:51] <ikonia> user1: yes it can basic routing
[14:51] <user1> ikonia which hardware you recomend?
[14:51] <Flyzoola> how do I get permission to write to a folder? Does anybody know the command to get root access in the file browser? it was a sudo, I believe
[14:51] <user1> ikonia no i mean will it do what i want?
[14:52] <ikonia> user1: I don't think so
[14:52] <bazhang> gksu/gksudo Flyzoola
[14:52] <seasurf> gksudo nautilus ?
[14:52] <user1> CoasterMaster         ikonia thinks monowall wont do the combined band limit thing.. true?
[14:53] <ikonia> CoasterMaster: what doing you ask a monowall support group, this conversation really isn't anything to do with ubuntu
[14:53] <bazhang> seasurf: for gui apps aye
[14:53] <wangdw201> 你们说啥呢
[14:54] <gregory> wangdw201: /join #ubuntu-cn
 o. its the only one i know. ^^
[14:54] <bazhang> wangdw201: this is ubuntu support channel; please join #ubuntu-cn
[14:54] <legend2440> Flyzoola: gksudo nautilus
[14:54] <Flyzoola> bazhang: how do I open up the file browser from there? what do I type in program? I typed in "file browser" and terminal said "ERROR: cannot open `browser' (No such file or directory)
[14:54] <Flyzoola> "
[14:54] <user1> CoasterMaster         monowall wont do the combined band limit thing.. true?
[14:55] <user1> ikonia which hardware you recomend?
[14:55] <ikonia> user1: again, I don't have a recommendation, shop around. This isn't really anything to do with ubuntu
 type "gksudo nautilus" in terminal. but becareful of what u edit...
[14:55] <bazhang> Flyzoola: gnome file browser name is nautilus
[14:55] <user1> ikonia which hardware router will do the combine ip band limit?
[14:55] <Flyzoola> thank you guys! :D
[14:56] <wangdw201> 你们怎都用英语说呢
[14:56] <m3333> bazhang, late reply but doesn't that just install an entire ubuntu desktop system?
[14:56] <ikonia> user1 am I not making myself clear to you ? I don't have a recommendation, and your questions are nothing to do with ubuntu
[14:56] <m3333> bazhang, or is it just the GUI enviroment?
[14:56] <user1> ikonia ok
[14:56] <bazhang> m3333: that would be the full desktop aye
[14:57] <nickthorley> hi all - I am quite new to ubuntu - i currently have 7.10 installed which I know is non lts - do I consider 8.04 an upgrade or is it a separate product being lts and hence I need to wait for 8.10 or do people upgrade from 7.10 - 8.04 and then onto 8.10 later?
[14:57] <m3333> bazhang, is there anyway to keep the server and just install a GUI over top then?
[14:57] <gregory> wangdw201: 类型对键盘 /join #ubuntu-cn
[14:57] <bazhang> m3333: sure that will do it
[14:57] <user1> erUSUL , which one of these will to the combined band limit?  qos with ip tables. or pcop or zeroshell or untangle ?
[14:57] <user1> CoasterMaster       you there?
[14:57] <ikonia> user1: again, this is nothing to do with ubuntu
[14:58] <user1> ikonia it has to do with ubuntu apps
[14:58] <powertool08> how do i uninstall wine programs they aren't .msi? should i rm -rf /M$_app_folder or is there a better way?
[14:58] <punzada> nickthorley, you can upgrade to 8.04 if you'd like fright from 7.10 but i'd recommend a fresh install
[14:58] <erUSUL> user1: check their websites they all have a features page
[14:58] <ikonia> user1: no it doesn't
[14:58] <punzada> right*
[14:58] <m3333> bazhang, but will that install like OpenOffice and all the stuff that comes with the usual desktop os?
[14:58] <user1> ikonia dont answer then :)
[14:58] <ikonia> user1: don't ask
[14:58] <erUSUL> powertool08: Apps>Wine>Uninstall wine software
[14:58] <bazhang> user1: get the asus W something or other it does all that you can search for it on asustek site; otherwise head to ##hardware as it is offtopic here thanks
[14:58] <ikonia> user1: go to the proper place and research the correcct information
[14:58] <user1> ikonia iam getting conversations.
[14:59] <user1> ikonia ok
[14:59] <ikonia> user1: if you have specific questions around the configuration of these applications on ubuntu then this channel is the perfect place.
[14:59] <user1> bazhang ok.
[14:59] <user1> ikonia iam asking , are those apps configurable for the task iam saying.
[14:59] <hischild> torrentflux can be considered to be safe enough to be deployed over the internet?
[14:59] <ikonia> user1: and you've been told that answer
[14:59] <nickthorley> punzada: is it an upgrade though or is it a different product - should you either stay on .10 releases or .4 releases and not mix the two?
[14:59] <bazhang> m3333: you want just a gui? does it have to be gnome/kde? there are others as well you know
[14:59] <ikonia> hischild: deployed ?
[15:00] <ikonia> hischild: it runs on a local machine
[15:00] <powertool08> erUSUL: i'm using kubuntu, do you know where it would be with kde?
[15:00] <ikonia> hischild: that local machine NEEDS internet conneciton
[15:00] <punzada> nickthorley, doesn't matter regardless, you can go either way
[15:00] <m3333> bazhang, nope just something that means i dont have to interface with the commandline asmuch
[15:00] <user1> erUSUL if have recomeneded most of them, you would have been knowing what they can do
[15:00] <punzada> for best support, always try to stick with the newest stable release
[15:00] <punzada> that's my advice
[15:00] <user1> ikonia its a yes?
[15:00] <hischild> ikonia, i'm using it local and haven't forwarded port 80 on the internet. What i would like to know is if it's safe to forward that one as well so i can control it via the internet.
[15:00] <ikonia> user1: please stop asking
[15:00] <user_1> Hello, I am desperately trying to fix my sshd server, it suddenly stopped working with no apparent reason, it is not a router/port forwarding issue since I tried with another computer on my network and it works.. I uninstalled sshd, removed its configuration files, installed it again, the port 22 is opened, I don't know where to look anymore..
[15:01] <user1> ikonia k
[15:01] <ikonia> hischild: it's as save as your connection
[15:01] <nickthorley> punzada: i am still unsure - is the natural update from 7.10 8.10?
[15:01] <bazhang> m3333: what ever you install can be removed if it is too bloated you know you might want to try fluxbox or xfce for very lightweight
 u can go from 7.10 to 8.04 naturally
[15:01] <Lamego> user_1, have you tried to ssh locally ?
[15:01] <punzada> correct
[15:01] <user_1> yes and it works
[15:01] <erUSUL> powertool08: no; sorry launch from terminal... "wine uninstaller"
[15:01] <ManicFodder> i can second fluxbox
[15:01] <punzada> (waht seasurf said)
[15:01] <hischild> ikonia, ok i' shall rephrase. Are there known security holes in it.
[15:01] <ikonia> hischild: is't as "safe" as your connection, eg: http/https username/pass strong
[15:01] <Lamego> user1, so it is not an sshd issue
[15:01] <user_1> Lamego: no in fact today it doesn't work sorry
[15:01] <powertool08> erUSUL: will do, thanks
[15:02] <Flyzoola> >:/ why does it say that my removable drive is read-only?
[15:02] <m3333> bazhang, fluxbox or xfce?
[15:02] <Lamego> user_1, have you tried ssh localhost ?
[15:02] <ikonia> Flyzoola: mounted with read only options ?
[15:02] <m3333> bazhang, explain
[15:02] <hischild> ikonia, the passwords from my user are strong enough.
[15:02] <bazhang> m3333: those are both window managers
[15:02] <nickthorley> seasurf: is that a path most people do?  I presumed that the .04 releases were mainly for servers being lts and the .10 releases were for workstations so hence I thought I would normally wait for 8.10 but I wasnt sure how it went - I am used to fedora when you just get the latest version as it comes out and centos their server version is separate
[15:02] <ikonia> hischild: ok, so it's that safe then, I always use it with ssl though
[15:02] <user_1> Lamego: yes, today, since I added an iptables rule for opening port 22, it says ssh: connect to host localhost port 22: Connection refused
[15:02] <Flyzoola> ikonia: all I did was plug it in etc. is there a way to mount so that I still edit the files?
[15:02] <ikonia> Flyzoola: what file system is on it ?
[15:02] <Lamego> nickthorley, you are wrong
[15:03] <MGS88> hi
[15:03] <m3333> bazhang, easy to use? and contain a file navigator and a textpad app?
[15:03] <Flyzoola> ikonia: what do you mean? it's the directory is /media/disk-1
 well... i was using 7.10, then now i'm on the 8.10 beta, and loving it. hm.. it s a natural move
[15:03] <bazhang> m3333: xfce much more so; fluxbox requires a bit of fiddling
[15:03] <hischild> ikonia, so it's also accessible via another port? or so i have to change something else for it?
[15:03] <Lamego> user_, then your issue is with the iptables config, by default all ports are open, if the problem is after using iptables, you probably blocked
[15:03] <ikonia> Flyzoola: no, what file system ext3/fat/ntfs is on the disk
[15:03] <nickthorley> lemego: ok so most people who are on 7.10 will be installing 8.04 when it is released then
[15:03] <Lamego> I am not an iptables expert, sorry :P
[15:03] <user_1> Lamego: but when I type ssh <IP_ADDRESS> (my IP adress), it works..
[15:03] <Lamego> nickthorley, yes
[15:03] <ikonia> hischild: the interface is web site, so http or https
[15:04] <Flyzoola> ikonia I don't know:/ is there a way to check?
[15:04] <m3333> bazhang, im guesing apt-get install xfce to use xfce?
[15:04] <ikonia> user_1: your file wall is the proble,
[15:04] <bazhang> nickthorley: if they choose to upgrade then that is the next step yes
[15:04] <Lamego> user_1, presunably you blocked incoming connections to <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:04] <bowen0507> Hi, when i use "ifconfig" i get two devices eth0 and eth0:avh, I need eth0 to have the IP address, but it goes to eth0:avh, how do I stop this?
[15:04] <Ayabara> is there any legal way to play drm'ed wmv's on linux?
[15:04] <hischild> ikonia, ok so if i use port 443 instead of 80 it'll also work. Correct?
[15:04] <ikonia> Flyzoola: you must know what file system you formated the disk with
[15:04] <m3333> Ayabara, install windows :p
[15:04] <m3333> Ayabara, kidding
[15:04] <ikonia> hischild: if your webserver is set up to host https
[15:04] <Ayabara> m3333: :-)
 i wouldn't consider the 04's and 10's to be separate.. does that help?
[15:04] <cassiopiea> hi there
[15:04] <ikonia> Ayabara: no - as thats the point of drm
[15:04] <legend2440> Flyzoola: sudo fdis -l in terminal
[15:04] <hischild> ikonia, alright, that'll do just fine. Thank you for your help.
[15:04] <legend2440> Flyzoola: sudo fdisk -l in terminal
[15:05] <ikonia> legend2440: thats not going to show a file system
[15:05] <chris062689> !xfce
[15:05] <ikonia> hischild: no problem
[15:05] <bazhang> m3333: not sure about the very minimum; normally one does xubuntu-desktop but that might be more than you want
[15:05] <ubotu> Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[15:05] <user_1> ikonia, Lamego, how to unblock incoming connections to localhost?
[15:05] <chris062689> !eeepc
[15:05] <ubotu> Information about installing Ubuntu on an Asus EeePC can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC
[15:05] <ikonia> user_1: localhost is working, it's your public connection that you've blocked
[15:05] <Lamego> !iptables | user_1
[15:05] <ubotu> user_1: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[15:05] <nickthorley> seasurf: yes it does thanks - so .04 is really a steping block to 8.10 then basically but obviously it will be supported for longer - so really the choice is to stay on the lts and have longer release cycles or keep updating every time a .04 or .10 comes out to stay the most upto date
[15:06] <Flyzoola> legend2440, what infomation do I need from that command??
[15:06] <ikonia> nickthorley: no, 8.04 nd 8.10 are totally seperate releases
[15:06] <ikonia> Flyzoola: none, that command will not help you
[15:06] <nickthorley> ikonia: thats what I thought but am I not being told different by the others - I am confused
 yes. for me.. the 10 is very stable, and i usually get help from the forums n irc so - no worries so far =)
[15:07] <Flyzoola> ikonia, hmm well. I must be ntfs
[15:07] <ikonia> Flyzoola: why must it be ?
[15:07] <legend2440> Flyzoola: ikonia is right is doesn't show filesystem info. is this a usb hdd?
[15:07] <bazhang> nickthorley: next release is lts, 8.10 is not; simple
[15:07] <ompaul> nickthorley, how about the release date is year month therefore they are seperate
[15:07] <Lamego> nickthorley, erm, each release is a tottaly different release, there is no specific relation with the release month
[15:07] <Flyzoola> ikonia: because as far as I know that's what my computer is
[15:08] <ikonia> Flyzoola: ok, so you need to use ntfs-3 to mount it read/write
[15:08] <ikonia> !ntfs-3g > Flyzoola
[15:08] <ikonia> Flyzoola: check the link from ubotu
[15:08] <nickthorley> ok thanks all - sorry for stupid questions just trying to get into the ubuntu file release cycle from redhat/fedora's
 don't worry.. just upgrade =D heh.
[15:08] <ikonia> seasurf: thats not always sage advise from an lts release.
[15:09] <nickthorley> seasurf: i dont see the point though i may as well just move to version 8.10 and miss out 8.04
 that's true.
[15:09] <ikonia> nickthorley: 8.04 is a different kettle of fish, they are different releases, not sequential like fedora
[15:09] <bazhang> see you in six months nickthorley
[15:09] <Flyzoola> ikonia
[15:09] <ikonia> Flyzoola: what /
[15:10] <speps> hey guys i cannot play vbr mp3 in a good way with player that use gstreamer, i get a bumpy sound. PLEASE HELP
[15:10] <Flyzoola> I got no link *sorry for double line*
[15:10] <CoasterMaster> 8.04 is really nice
[15:10] <seasurf> definitely
[15:10] <Lamego> nickthorley, and what do you expect to gain from skipping 8.04 ?
[15:10] <ikonia> !ntfs-3g | Flyzoola
[15:10] <ubotu> Flyzoola: ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[15:10] <nickthorley> no will here before then -
[15:10] <Flyzoola> ikonia: thank you :D
[15:10] <nickthorley> lamego: well if i install 8.04 then 8.10 comes out I will be installing too regularly wont i -
[15:11] <ikonia> nickthorley: it's a 6 month release cycle - the same as fedora, your comment makes no sense
[15:11] <bazhang> nickthorley: how about taking this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:12] <nickthorley> is anyone happy for me to pm them to thrash this out so i properly understand it?
[15:12] <Lamego> nickthorley, if you want to keep a "stable" (old) system, you should install 8.04 since it's an LTS release (supported for 3 years)
[15:12] <ompaul> nickthorley, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:12] <ikonia> nickthorley: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:12] <Lamego> if tou want to have am updated system, then you should upgrade at earch release
[15:12] <Lamego> ubuntu release schedule is ot :) ?
[15:12] <ikonia> Lamego: for support
[15:13] <Lamego> this is support :)
[15:13] <az> Bonjour !!
[15:13] <az>  ya t'il un serveur de chat français ?
[15:13] <jrib> !fr | az
[15:13] <ubotu> az: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[15:13] <ikonia> !fr | az
[15:16] <adobongkangkong> hi ! will ubuntu provide torrent for their new release?
[15:16] <sdakak> ikonia: A restart doesn't help with the dhtp3-server. even now when I say 'start|stop' it says fail.
[15:16] <jrib> adobongkangkong: yes
[15:16] <bazhang> adobongkangkong: transmission
[15:16] <ikonia> sdakak: please paste in the channel the output of "ps -ef | grep -v grep | grep dhcpd"
[15:17] <sdakak> ikonia: no output
 : i meant torrent files and trackers for the new ubuntu release ( hardy heron )
[15:17] <ikonia> sdakak: so it's not running
[15:17] <sdakak> but; de@demo-laptop:~$ ps -ef | grep dhcpd
[15:17] <sdakak> de       10094  9829  0 19:47 pts/0    00:00:00 grep dhcpd
[15:17] <orochi_> Hi :> I have a strange issue when desktop effects are enabled (using an NVidia Geforce 8600 video card)...in games where I have altered the brightness settings, when desktop effects are enabled, those settings are overridden and the screen is dark. :< Has anyone else seen this?
[15:17] <sdakak> adobongkangkong: yes they do it every time.
[15:18] <ikonia> sdakak: so run the start script and then look in /var/log/messages at the bottom for what happens
[15:18] <bazhang> adobongkangkong: yes; hardy discussion is best done in #ubuntu+1 thanks
[15:18] <AdvoWork> hi there, I need to be able to run some windows only software from ubuntu. Whats the best way to do this?
 install wine
[15:18] <saminthemiddle> AdvoWork: wine
[15:18] <sdakak> ikonia: i can't start it it says fail.
[15:18] <jrib> AdvoWork: you can try wine.  Other possibilities are crossover office and cedega
[15:18] <bazhang> AdvoWork: which software
[15:18] <Leeuw> AdvoWork: Use Wine
 and winetricks
[15:18] <Leeuw> !wine
[15:18] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[15:19] <nathan_> what packets include linux/wireless.h and are there different version for that?
[15:19] <ikonia> sdakak: I know that, thats why I said run the start script and then look at the bottom of the log file /var/log/messages for error info
[15:19] <saminthemiddle> !kvm
[15:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kvm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:19] <ikonia> nathan_: kernel keaders
[15:19] <ikonia> headers
[15:19] <user_1> I solved my problem with Firestarter, by enabling all incoming connections to ssh's port
[15:19] <nathan_> hmm .. and if I get compiling errors with the wireless.h, is there another one I can use?
[15:19] <sdakak> ikonia: Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Server V3.0.5
[15:19] <sdakak> Apr 17 19:48:38 demo-laptop dhcpd: Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium.
[15:19] <sdakak> Apr 17 19:48:38 demo-laptop dhcpd: All rights reserved.
[15:19] <ikonia> user_1: of course you will, we told you the firewall was blocking it
[15:20] <user_1> thanks
[15:20] <AdvoWork> does wine allow use of tons of different software, the software is comment sniper for one
[15:20] <sdakak> ikonia: and more stuff in plain english about the software license and all. nothing about errors
[15:20] <ikonia> sdakak: are you running the /etc/init.d scripts as sudo ?
[15:20] <sdakak> ikonia: yes
[15:20] <ikonia> sdakak: sudo dhcpd
[15:20] <AdvoWork> and i may have wine installed, any ideas how I can test that?
[15:20] <bazhang> AdvoWork: what is comment sniper
[15:20] <ikonia> sdakak: see what it says
[15:20] <ikonia> AdvoWork: look in the package manager to see if it's installed
[15:20] <AdvoWork> bazhang specialist software for finding blogs
[15:20] <sdakak> ikonia: command not foundd
[15:20] <Leeuw> AdvoWork: lots an' lots; see the application database for details
[15:21] <Leeuw> AdvoWork:  !wine
[15:21] <ikonia> sdakak: sudo /usr/sbin/dhcpd
[15:21] <Leeuw> !wine
[15:21] <ubotu> WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[15:21] <Leeuw> !appdb
[15:21] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[15:21] <bazhang> AdvoWork: you can check the appdb; /msg ubotu appdb
[15:21] <sdakak> ikonia: it is dhpd3 there, it runs without any fail messages.
[15:22] <nathan_> Can someone tell me how to fix this: http://ubuntuusers.de/paste/190270/ ?
[15:22] <sdakak> de@demo-laptop:~$ ps -ef | grep -v grep | grep dhcpd
 not all software works in wine but you can query in appdb but if you really want for your sotware to work because it's important that it should work why not use EMUs like Virtualbox
[15:22] <sdakak> de@demo-laptop:~$ ps -ef | grep dhcpd
[15:22] <sdakak> de       10269  9829  0 19:52 pts/0    00:00:00 grep dhcpd
[15:22] <ikonia> sdakak: so now ps -ef | grep -v grep | grep dhcp shows it as running ?
[15:22] <sdakak> ikonia: ^
[15:22] <ikonia> sdakak: it's not running then
[15:23] <bazhang> nathan_: could you give a brief description please?
[15:23] <sdakak> ikonia: but dhcpd is running. what was that?
[15:23] <ikonia> sdakak: thats it trying to run
[15:23] <nathan_> bazhang, trying to compile a wifi application that requires linux/wireless.h and compiling fails at that point
[15:23] <AdvoWork> hmm, it appears the software I want to use isnt on the apps database, so what does that mean, I cant do it?
[15:23] <bazhang> nathan_: this is gutsy or hardy
[15:23] <nathan_> hardy
[15:24] <w0nder> I updated ubuntu and now my sound doesn't work
[15:24] <jrib> AdvoWork: it means no one has tried and added their results (you can be the first :))
[15:24] <nathan_> I asked in #ubuntu+1 too, but I was not sure if its hardy-related
[15:24] <ikonia> sdakak: start dhcpd with -d option
[15:24] <sdakak> ikonia: hm. I have cleared all the custom edits to /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf  and /etc/dhcp.conf
[15:24] <dundee> hi people
[15:24] <ikonia> sdakak: why do you have 2 config files ?
[15:25] <dundee> does anyone know why installation of git doesnt work?
[15:25] <sdakak> ikonia: they were there by default. the /etc/dhcp.conf is empty
[15:25] <b4l74z4r> it seems that the latest hardy updates has resolved the problems with tearing in totem when compiz is enabled
[15:25] <ikonia> dundee: what is the error you get
[15:26] <ikonia> b4l74z4r: hardy chat in #ubuntu+1 please.
[15:26] <AdvoWork> jrib but is that easy to do though? or do i have to do loads of messing about
[15:26] <ikonia> sdakak: ok, so start dhcpd with -d option
[15:26] <dundee> runit caused some error
[15:26] <jrib> !wine > AdvoWork (read the private message from ubotu)
[15:26] <ikonia> dundee: thats not really reporting the error
[15:26] <dundee> runit is not configured...
[15:26] <jrib> AdvoWork: you just run 'wine whatever.exe'
[15:26] <dundee> ikonia: like this :)
[15:27] <ikonia> dundee: is runit installed ?
[15:27] <sdakak> ikonia: what is the difference between dhcpd3 and dhcdbd?
[15:27] <Krisket> <= looking for advice on backing up to a secure remote windows server
[15:27] <dundee> probably yes
[15:27] <ikonia> sdakak: ones a daemon, the other is a database
[15:27] <ikonia> dundee: what do you mean "probably" ?
[15:27] <sdakak> ikonia: i can't start it from anywhere. should i go to /sbin and do it?
[15:27] <ikonia> dundee: it is or it isn't
[15:27] <dundee> but is says that is not configured
[15:27] <ikonia> sdakak: what do you mean you can't start it ? how where you starting it before
[15:27] <ikonia> dundee: look in the package manager to see if it is installed
[15:28] <dundee> ikonia: synaptic says yes
 are u trying to run a customized application?
[15:28] <ikonia> dundee: ok, thats a good start
[15:28] <JoeyJoeJo> how can I install mythtv .21? right now my computer wants to install the older .20.2 version
[15:28] <ikonia> JoeyJoeJo: thats all that available in the repo
[15:28] <dundee> ikonia: :)
[15:28] <sdakak> ikonia: I couldn't start the db daemon sorry.
[15:28] <dundee> ikonia: the error is: package runit is not configured yet
[15:28] <ikonia> sdakak: what are you doing that ?
[15:29] <ikonia> dundee: sudo dpkg-reconfigure runit ?
[15:29] <sdakak> ikonia: i am getting confused by all the dhc* names.
[15:29] <ikonia> dundee: assuming it has a config interface
[15:29] <dundee> ikonia: i will try
[15:30] <sdakak> ikonia: i should start the dhcpd3 right?
[15:30] <ikonia> sdakak: yes
[15:30] <ikonia> sdakak: -d too please.
[15:30] <sdakak> ikonia: starting it normally and with -d has no change in effect.
[15:30] <dundee> ikonia: runit is damaged or not fully installed
[15:30] <dundee> ikonia:  seems like some bug in package installer
[15:30] <sdakak> ikonia: /var/log/messages and the terminal both display the license of the dhcp server and such.. no errors.
[15:30] <ikonia> dundee: not good
[15:30] <ikonia> sdakak: and your doing dhcpd3 -d  ?
[15:31] <JoeyJoeJo> ikonia: is there a testing or unstable repo that does have mythtv.21?
[15:31] <sdakak> ikonia: yes
[15:31] <ikonia> JoeyJoeJo: not that I'm aware of
[15:31] <hari> linuxmce
[15:31] <bazhang> JoeyJoeJo: have you asked in #ubuntu-mythtv yet?
[15:31] <javaJake> How would I tell Firefox to use a particular folder for its profile data, instead of .mozilla?
[15:31] <flibbertygibbit> hey guys, any hints for getting adobe flash working in konqueror in gutsy?
[15:32] <ikonia> sdakak: something is very wrong then as -d should display debugging info
[15:32] <sdakak> ikonia: I got something "No subnet declaration for eth1 (<IP_ADDRESS>).
[15:32] <sdakak> ** Ignoring requests on eth1.  If this is not what
[15:32] <sdakak>    you want, please write a subnet declaration
[15:32] <sdakak>    in your dhcpd.conf file for the network segment
[15:32] <sdakak>    to which interface eth1 is attached. **
[15:32] <FloodBot2> sdakak: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:32] <dundee> ikonia: should I post it to bug list?
[15:32] <ikonia> dundee: seems a good call
[15:32] <ikonia> sdakak: where did all that info come from ?
[15:33] <dundee> ikonia: ok, thanks for help
[15:33] <sdakak> ikonia: -d option.
[15:33] <bazhang> flibbertygibbit: have you read the !flash factoid yet?
[15:33] <ikonia> sdakak: so your decleration for eth1 is messed up
[15:33] <JoeyJoeJo> bazhang: I didn't know there was such a channel. I'll check it out now
[15:34] <Ax-Ax> hello
[15:34] <Ax-Ax> how do i mount (cli) something to being acessable for all users?
[15:35] <ikonia> Ax-Ax: mount it and chown it to be read/write whatever for the world
[15:35] <flibbertygibbit> !flash
[15:35] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (for !Dapper and !Edgy, a recent version is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[15:35] <flibbertygibbit> thanls bazhang
[15:35] <sdakak> ikonia: how do i set it correctly
[15:35] <ikonia> sdakak: pastebin your config file
[15:36] <bazhang> flibbertygibbit: seems that some adobe update may have broken it for konqueror of late; might want to stick with firefox until it is fixed (great nickname by the way)
[15:36] <user1> how can i download websites or a page and further linked pages on it?
[15:37] <ikonia> user1: wget -r
[15:37] <bazhang> flibbertygibbit: this is from the kubuntu-users mailing list today
[15:37] <user1> ikonia whats that?
[15:37] <flibbertygibbit> bazhang: ah rightio, was gonna try http://mikearthur.co.uk/2007/12/konqueror-with-latest-adobe-flash-howto/ but apt-get source kmplayer pulls in 0.9.4 instead of 0.10
[15:37] <ikonia> user1: a command
[15:38] <BVBBQ> can someone walk me through installing new graphics card driver?
[15:38] <bazhang> lists.ubuntu.com/ if you ever care to check them out flibbertygibbit
[15:38] <user1> ikonia -r,  --recursive          specify recursive download.
[15:38] <user1> .A
[15:38] <user1> ikonia i need one step only
[15:39] <ikonia> user1 read the man page then there is a --level style option too
[15:39] <_c> hi. where are the c manpages?
[15:39] <ayoe> hello, how are you
[15:39] <ikonia> _c: is is a poramming language, so no man pages are availalbe
[15:39] <ikonia> _c: some of the api's are available as man pages though
[15:40] <jrib> _c: install the manpages-dev package
[15:40] <_c> ah.
[15:40] <_c> thanks.
[15:40] <bazhang> BVBBQ: which card? normally one would use the restricted drivers manager for that
[15:40] <archman> is it secure to erase /var/cache/apt/archives/  ?
[15:41] <BVBBQ> bazhang, i have a Radeon, but the driver isn't working properly.
[15:41] <bazhang> archman: better to purge then erase as that is an important directory
[15:41] <nathan_> bazhang, do you have an idea how to fix my wireless.h problem?
[15:41] <archman> bazhang: i need to apt-get purge?
[15:42] <sdakak> ikonia: this is the original config file with no edits, the one that I am using http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63524/
[15:42] <bazhang> BVBBQ: which exact model of ati please
[15:42] <dmacnutt> GUH
[15:42] <user1> ikonia i did wget -r-k-l 1 inspircd.org/wiki/modules   . but its not corect i think. whats the corect pattern
[15:42] <dmacnutt> what does debian use such and old autofs version!!
[15:42] <archman> bazhang: it will remove packages if i apt-get purge...
[15:43] <anton___> hello can somebody help me with this error: http://rafb.net/p/6jHLX735.html
[15:43] <BVBBQ> bazhang, its a radeon X1300
[15:43] <anton___> i installed google earth 4.3 beta
[15:43] <bazhang> archman: not purge in that sense
[15:43] <archman> bazhang: i see, i need apt-get clean
[15:43] <ikonia> sdakak: got to pop out, but that config is way off
[15:43] <archman> bazhang: right?
[15:43] <bazhang> archman: exactly
[15:43] <ikonia> sdakak: you need to setup your lease/pools and config the intefaces
[15:44] <archman> bazhang: thanks!
[15:44] <bazhang> BVBBQ: what do you mean by not working properly?
[15:44] <BVBBQ> bazhang, i get only 640X480 and there are horizontal lines across the screen.
[15:45] <Caius> ciao a tutti
[15:45] <BVBBQ> bazhang, im using the generic driver at the moment which works better but i still cant get better than 800 x 400
[15:45] <bazhang> !it | Caius
[15:45] <ubotu> Caius: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[15:45] <Daemonus> hi all, could someone help me to fix OpenGL Direct Rendering please?
[15:45] <Caius> ok
[15:45] <dmacnutt> !autofs
[15:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about autofs - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:46] <dmacnutt> !automount
[15:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:46] <archman> bazhang: is there any folder of that type (which stores files and information, but they aren't really needed for system to work)?
[15:46] <neXyon> with which software am I able to cut such videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epRjN9EkYY4 ?
[15:46] <bazhang> nathan_: what is the wireless model? ie chipset; and was this not a hardy problem? best to ask in that channel thanks
[15:46] <LjL> !msgthebot > dmacnutt    (dmacnutt, see the private message from Ubotu)
[15:46] <Daemonus> hi all, could someone help me to fix OpenGL Direct Rendering please?
[15:46] <nathan_> bazhang, its an atheros chipset and in the hardy channel no one knew about it
[15:47] <bazhang> BVBBQ: this is gutsy? and you have the restricted drivers in use and enabled?
[15:47] <BVBBQ> i can enable them again but it'll mean trying to fix the problem in 640 480
[15:47] <dmsuperma1> Hi all.
[15:48] <Daemonus> could someone help me to fix OpenGL Direct Rendering please?
[15:48] <lordleemo> archman: are you trying to delete cached packages?
[15:48] <metalstryker> hello all, i have a quick question
[15:48] <archman> lordleemo: yeah, and all the files not really needed to keep the system running smoothly...
[15:49] <BVBBQ> then you should chase after it metalstryker
[15:49] <lordleemo> archman: synaptics settings preferences files  and hit delete cached package files
[15:49] <Daemonus> could someone help me to fix OpenGL Direct Rendering please?
[15:49] <metalstryker> I installed Ubuntu..and it installed Gnome, so i just ran the command line to install Kubuntu, and when i get to the login screen i see the new Kubuntu login screen,but when the desktop loads, its the same Gnome theme and screen.
[15:49] <user1> wget -r -k -l 1 inspircd.org/wiki/modules
[15:49] <user1> --19:48:46--  http://inspircd.org/wiki/modules
[15:49] <user1>            => `inspircd.org/wiki/modules'
[15:49] <user1> Resolving inspircd.org... <IP_ADDRESS>
[15:49] <user1> Connecting to inspircd.org|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80... connected.
[15:49] <user1> HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
[15:49] <FloodBot2> user1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:49] <user1> its stuck here..
[15:50] <CoasterMaster> What's that built in vim tutorial (that's really just a text file)?
[15:51] <Daemonus> can someone help me to fix OpenGL Direct Rendering please?
[15:51] <archman> lordleemo: thanks!
[15:51] <nia> I installed urxvt but there is no man urxvt. Is there a way to reinstall the man page? THanks.
[15:51] <lordleemo> archman: your welcome . you can delete history etc using that ok
[15:52] <archman> lordleemo: is there anything that could be removed that i don't know about? Except temp internet files.
[15:52] <Daemonus> can someone help me to fix OpenGL Direct Rendering please?
[15:52] <BVBBQ> bazhang, redownloading the restricted driver now. maybe that'll help
[15:52] <post> !pondering
[15:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pondering - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:53] <LifeHacker> !iwlwifi
[15:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about iwlwifi - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:53] <lordleemo> archman: only delete files no longer available . im sure it wont
[15:53] <Daemonus> can someone help me to fix OpenGL Direct Rendering please?
[15:53] <post> @pondering
[15:54] <archman> lordleemo: i set it to remove packs after installation...
[15:54] <legend2440> archman: here are ways to clean up unneeded files http://www.ubuntugeek.com/cleaning-up-all-unnecessary-junk-files-in-ubuntu.html
[15:54] <archman> legend2440: tnx!
[15:54] <lordleemo> archman: thats fine
[15:54] <Daemonus> can someone help me to fix OpenGL Direct Rendering please?
[15:55] <BVBBQ> does anyone by any chance know a way i can completely reinstall ubuntu without losing all my music and such?
[15:55] <LadyNikon> BVBBQ: you should back up your stuff even if you find a way to do it
[15:56] <BVBBQ> LadyNikon, i dont have a backup drive and one of the many problems with my current system is that it refuses to recognise my cd drive
[15:56] <LjL> BVBBQ: next time consider having a separate partition for /home, perhaps
[15:57] <BVBBQ> LjL, well, when i first started using ubuntu i was a complete novice. now im a bit smarter
[15:58] <LjL> BVBBQ: well, while it's certainly possible (at least using the alternate cd) to reinstall while keeping files, it's definitely something where one can mess up easily.
[15:58] <BVBBQ> hmm, for that i would need to cd.
[15:58] <BVBBQ> of which i cannot burn without the computer recognizing the drive.
[15:58] <BVBBQ> such is life
[15:59] <LjL> BVBBQ: well, why do you want to reinstall ubuntu, anyway?
[16:00] <BVBBQ> because my kernel is FUBARed and is just generally crippled
[16:00] <LjL> BVBBQ: caused by what?
[16:00] <BVBBQ> LjL, a now ex girlfriend
[16:00] <LjL> BVBBQ: ok, what happened specifically though?
[16:01] <yao_ziyuan> is it really true that a linux filesystem does not need defragmentation?
[16:01] <BVBBQ> LjL, im not sure how she did it. but ubuntu doesnt recognize my cd drive, the graphics card drivers arent working properly, its now slow as hell, etc etc
[16:01] <DFM> I'm trying to get my work deploy an Ubuntu server however they are scared of the CLI and I am not good enough to make it look easy. Their fear is what if I leave? No one will know what to do with it.
[16:01] <yao_ziyuan> i have switched to kubuntu for 2 months but i'm still not used to this fact
[16:01] <bazhang> yao_ziyuan: ext3 yes
[16:01] <DJones> !defrag | yao_ziyuan
[16:01] <ubotu> yao_ziyuan: The default Ubuntu filesystem (ext3) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases, see http://linkpot.net/behead/ for a simple example on how it achieves this. A package "defrag" is available in !Universe, however its use is not safe, and is generally not needed.
[16:02] <DFM> Any recommendations on a GUI for the server?
[16:02] <Frozenball> ReiserFS <3
[16:02] <bazhang> DFM: you can choose gnome or kde; there are others as well
[16:02] <Frozenball> Dunno why the ext3 is still default
[16:03] <BVBBQ> so there wouldnt by any chance be some highly risky method of wiping out my os and reinstalling it without a cd
[16:03] <MGS88> hi can I Edit files on ubuntu already installed by live CD
[16:03] <Lainy> I installed urxvt but there is no man urxvt. How do I install it? Thanks.
[16:04] <DFM> I figured as much but if I choose one won't they load all the extra stuff that I don't need?
[16:04] <bazhang> BVBBQ: how much do you have to back up data-wise
[16:04] <BVBBQ> bazhang, were looking at about 60 gigs of music
[16:04] <LjL> BVBBQ: i'd recommend 1) making sure your /etc/apt/sources.list is sane (pastebin if you want) - 2) reinstalling the packages "ubuntu-desktop" and "linux" - 3) installing the package "debsums", and running "sudo debsums -s g", which will list files that don't correspond to what should be in their package (pastebin output if unclear)
[16:04] <bazhang> DFM: I thought the concern was with the co workers not being able to use cli? if you mean open office or other stuff just remove it
[16:05] <BVBBQ> LjL, that's a start.
[16:05] <Freduardo> Lainy: try man rxvt-unicode or something like that
[16:06] <DFM> That is the concern and I know I can remove packages. I myself just want to install the minimum needed to setup and configure it then make changes as needed.
[16:06] <dvh> Good morning. Am I in the right place for an AWK question?
[16:06] <bazhang> DFM: well only you can tell what that 'minimal' threshold is
[16:06] <dvh> Trying to strip VT220 control characters from a session capture.
[16:07] <DFM> Would you recommend installing the actual server and then use synaptic to install gnome?
[16:07] <dvh> Particularly, this sequence: ESC[xx;xxH
[16:08] <dvh> Where xx is either a 1 or 2 digit number
[16:08] <bazhang> DFM: you might want to look at the series the perfect server done on all the major distros; search terms: ubuntu gutsy perfect server
[16:08] <LjL> DFM: consider using aptitude to install gnome, as its unused dependencies handling is more tested than apt's
[16:08] <MGS88>  is I can Edit files on ubuntu installed  by live CD
[16:08] <mojo> Well my / partition on ubuntu studio 7.10 install just crapped itself.  would not boot, claiming sync errors and kernel panick attmepting to load libc6.so or some such.  Great timing too, as I was just fixing to back up the package list and /etc after reading about it yesterday. Figures.  Well, fsck "fixed" the part (ext3), but it still won't boot.  QUESTION:  How do I get a package list off that installation?  I am booted to an older ins
[16:08] <mojo> tall (7.04, regular ubuntu).  Also, if it matters, the crapped root was amd64 arch, and the old one was i386.
[16:09] <OllieH> Hi, if my windows partition is fragmented, and im trying to resize it to a smaller size, will the new partition for linux manage to take up free space if it is fragmented, or does all the freespace have to be in one place?
[16:09] <bazhang> OllieH: needs to be contiguous
[16:09] <DFM> aptitude install gnome-desktop?
[16:09] <Daemonus> can someone help me to fix OpenGL Direct Rendering please?
[16:10] <LjL> DFM: that would be gnome-desktop-environment
[16:10] <LjL> DFM: (by the way, how would you "install the actual server" and *then* use *synaptic*...? synaptic without a GUI? :P)
[16:10] <nevem> hello, would like to ask for some help - i cannot set correct resolution for my widescreen lcd
[16:10] <OllieH> thought so.. thats probably the problem then.... how do I get the free space contiguous, because I keep defragging on windows and it doesnt seem to help the free space, but the files become defragged which I guess is what its meant to do
[16:10] <DFM> well duh
[16:11]  * mojo hangs head in dread
[16:11] <DFM> didn't think that through did i? lol
[16:11] <DJones> OllieH: when you defrag, try getting hold of the demo version of "perfectdisk 8" or something similar, that can be set to defrag properly and to consolidate free space, however, take a backup regardless, windows defrag doesn't consolidate the free space
[16:11] <LjL> DFM: you might need to install Xorg separately, besides
[16:11] <komputes> how can I change my tmp dir to another disk?
[16:11] <OllieH> okay thanks
[16:12] <DFM> X is where I have had problems in the past. I'm afraid I won't be able to get Xorg installed and configured for the gui to work
[16:12] <komputes> I'm running out od disk space and I would like to temporarily make another disk my /tmp for a while, and then change it back
[16:13] <ubuntu> buenas
[16:13] <MGS88> nevem--> go system>preferences>screen resolution
[16:13] <ubuntu> tengo un problema
[16:14] <bazhang> ubuntu espanol?
[16:14] <ubuntu> si espa;ol
[16:14] <Zoke_> hi
[16:14] <LjL> !es
[16:14] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:14] <bazhang> ubuntu /j #ubuntu-es gracias
[16:15] <LjL> komputes: just mount the other disk on /tmp (and hope no files in /tmp are being used ;)
[16:15] <MGS88> hi
[16:15] <MGS88> is I can Edit files on ubuntu installed  by live CD
[16:15] <Zoke_> it's posible to install a driver ati-driver-installer-8.41.7-x86.x86_64 in laptop with Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7300 @ 2.00GHz
[16:15] <Zoke_> ???
[16:15] <nevem> hello again! would like to ask for some help - cannot set correct resolution for widescreen lcd
[16:15] <LjL> DFM: nowadays it should be the package "xorg", i think, that gives you a working x
[16:15] <LjL> (or x-window-system which only depends on xorg anyway)
[16:15] <DFM> ? For ease of use would it be easier to just install Ubuntu desktop, remove what i don't want then configure the services I need?
[16:16] <MGS88>  nevem--> go system>preferences>screen resolution
[16:16] <BVBBQ> LjL, noob question, how do i reinstall
[16:16] <bazhang> DFM: always best to listen to LjL
[16:16] <LjL> DFM: depends. if there's many things that you don't won't, that might end up being a lengthy process
[16:16] <LjL> BVBBQ: uh - you mean generally speaking? you boot from the CD and install, just as you did the first time
[16:16] <BVBBQ> cant boot from the cd as i dont have one
[16:16] <BVBBQ> lost it somewhere
[16:16] <nevem> MGS88 the needed resolution is not available
[16:16] <LjL> BVBBQ: err, then you don't reinstall
[16:17] <LjL> BVBBQ: have you tried following the steps i gave you? i don't think reinstalling is necessary
[16:17] <echelon_> hi! how do i get rid of package dependency in UBUNTU??
[16:17] <BVBBQ> LjL, i checked the sources list, nothing but the standard stuff.
[16:17] <LjL> echelon_: elaborate
[16:17] <tuna> so, i installed hardy. And now all mp3's play reaylly bad. The sound scratcheds and skips. Anyone know the reason? ogg plays fine
[16:17] <DFM> Thats why I am having a problem deciding. I want to install a server and I can't learn if always try to find an easier way.
[16:17] <bazhang> echelon_: get rid of? please clarify
[16:17] <LjL> BVBBQ: ah you have security and updates enabled for all components? (main restricted universe multiverse)
I stop here (ask some pro)
[16:18] <bazhang> tuna #ubuntu+1 please
[16:18] <BVBBQ> LjL, yep.
[16:18] <LjL> BVBBQ: ok, what about debsums?
[16:18] <BVBBQ> LjL, havent gotten to that. installing now
[16:18] <echelon_> to make it stop telling me to install such and such packages before i installing the intended package
[16:18] <DFM> I don't really need a LAMP. Is having a LAMP out of the box the only advantage to installing the server?
[16:19] <bazhang> echelon_: that sounds like the recipe for a really broken system
[16:19] <LjL> echelon_, if a package has dependencies, it means it needs those dependencies.
[16:19] <echelon_> are there source builds for deb packages?
[16:19] <MGS88>  <nevem> are you install your video card ?
[16:19] <LjL> DFM: not if you don't need LAMP.
[16:19] <echelon_> like rpm src builds?
[16:19] <BVBBQ> LjL, says that the package G is not installed
[16:19] <Bananobot> I'm running Ubuntu Gutsy Server. Today I did an `apt-get update`/`apt-get upgrade` (which upgraded apache, php, linux-headers, and some other stuff) and I restarted my system. Now, Apache doesn't seem to start up. `sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start` gives me an "OK" with no errors, but the website gives a "connection refused" (even when browsing localhost) and when I try `sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart` or `stop` it says "httpd (no pid file) not runn
[16:19] <Bananobot> ing"
[16:20] <LjL> BVBBQ: ?
[16:20] <nevem> my video card is fine - i think
[16:20] <BVBBQ> rylan@rylan-desktop:~$ sudo debsums -s gdebsums: package g is not installed
[16:20] <echelon_> anyone?
[16:20] <LjL> BVBBQ: debsums -s -g
[16:20] <echelon_> like srpm for debs??
[16:20] <nevem> MGS88: have i965, is detected and the correct driver is applied
[16:21] <DFM> So if I don't need LAMP I just need basic file and print sharing I should install a desktop version for ease of use?
[16:21] <LjL> !source > echelon_    (echelon_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:21] <BVBBQ> LjL, debsums running
[16:21] <echelon_> thanks
[16:21] <Zatoichiino> Witam, czy mógł by mi ktoś polecić kamerkę internetową do 100, tak abym z nią nie walczył pod ubuntu ??
[16:22] <echelon_> LjL: i know how to get a package source.. i meant a source build file?
[16:22] <echelon_> you know source rpms?
[16:22] <LjL> DFM, there's nothing you "should" do. it depends on your goals. "for ease of use", yes, a desktop version is obviously easier to use. but earlier you were saying your goal was to have something minimal. you need to decide yourself
[16:22] <nevem> Need help, the situation: i965 video card, 1280x800@60 lcd screen, the highest resolution ubuntu offers is 1024x768 for some reason - any idea?
[16:22] <LjL> echelon_: no
[16:23] <Lainy> Could someone explain what the a and b mean in this color config:"rgb:90/a0/b0"
[16:23] <Lainy> I thought there could only be numbers in RGB format.
[16:23] <Hammer89> anyone have any idea why locking my screen locks my computer up every other try or so?
[16:23] <LjL> Lainy: that's probably hexadecimal
[16:23] <bazhang> nevem: what about sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg did you try that? answer the default when you dont know
[16:23] <Lainy> LjL: THanks.
[16:23] <DFM> I agree that I need to make the decision. I'm just trying to get an understanding of the benefits of installing the server. I appreciate your input.
[16:24] <nevem> bazhang: did that, no luck
[16:24] <LjL> DFM, the Server Edition (not to be confused with installing a "server" package selection from the alternate CD) has a different kernel. of course nothing stops you, i guess, from installing that kernel on the desktop edition (but then nothing stops you from installing "ubuntu-desktop" on the server edition)
[16:24] <bazhang> nevem: how about pastebinning your xorg.conf
[16:24] <LjL> !minimal > DFM    (DFM, see the private message from Ubotu) this is something that might come in handy, anyway, if you don't want to download N different CD's while still not sure what to use
[16:25] <DFM> thanks LjL
[16:25] <||bass> i thought RC1 was supposed to be today
[16:25] <dmsuperma1> !andLinux > dmsuperman
[16:25] <nevem> bazhang: please explain pastebinning... do not understand the word
[16:25] <dmsuperma1> !pastebin | nevem
[16:25] <ubotu> nevem: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[16:25] <LjL> DFM: remember that even with no GUI, you can just install irssi and join this channel, and ask how to get Xorg running.
[16:25] <MGS88>  <nevem>try  Administration>Screens and Graphics
[16:25] <bazhang> ||bass: tomorrow and discussed in #ubuntu+1
[16:25] <niuq_>  /msg nickserv link niuq niuq
[16:26] <Bananobot> I'm running Ubuntu Gutsy Server. Today I did an `apt-get update`/`upgrade` (which upgraded apache, php, linux-headers, and some other stuff) and I rebooted. Now, Apache doesn't seem to start up. `sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start` gives me an "OK" with no errors, but the process doesn't seem to be running. When I try `sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart` or `stop` it says "httpd (no pid file) not running" Any ideas?
[16:26] <||bass> moved back to tomorrow? what a drag
[16:26] <openSea> hi, all! does anyone know why WEBMIN is not in the reps? is it a license problem??
[16:26] <LjL> niuq_: change it (and i wouldn't recommend using the same password as the nickname)
[16:26] <bazhang> ebox is the ubuntu way openSea
[16:26] <niuq_> lol
[16:26] <Rafase283> hello
[16:26] <niuq_> LjL: ok
[16:26] <LjL> !identify > niuq_    (niuq_, see the private message from Ubotu)
[16:26] <pihhan> Bananobot: look into /var/log/apache2/error.log or what is its name and see reason, why it did terminate
[16:27] <mojo> Bananobot: ps aux |grep apache show anything?
[16:27] <niuq_> LjL: thank you :)
[16:27] <Bananobot> [Thu Apr 17 07:38:14 2008] [error] (9)Bad file descriptor: apr_socket_accept: (client socket)
[16:28] <LjL> niuq_: change it...
[16:28] <Bananobot> mojo: Aside from the "grep apache" command, no
[16:28] <nevem> bazhang: here is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63532/
[16:28] <niuq_> LjL: i am :)
[16:28] <vlad> hi people
[16:28] <boris_> hello
[16:28] <BVBBQ> LjL, damn got a lot of things in there. no idea what im looking for.
[16:28] <vlad> i got a question
[16:28] <vlad> ok i got ati sapphire x1550 +  ubuntu 7.10 i installed the restricted drivers automatic when i try to put better visual effects it says "the composite extension is not available", im a new in linux and i dont know what to do
[16:29] <LjL> BVBBQ: then pastebin.
[16:29] <niuq_> LjL: done :)
[16:29] <BVBBQ> LjL, http://pastebin.com/d279622c
[16:29] <boris_> ive got a simple problem. ive added Dwell Click panel applet to my panel, now i cant use it or remove it
[16:29] <fjfalcon> 7 days to hour X =)
[16:30] <mojo> Bananobot: well that tells you no apache process is presently running.  But I am not sure if it is going to show if you have no connects.  I am not sure but i think apache2 gets launched by another daemon when an incoming connection comes, iirc
[16:30] <LjL> BVBBQ: ok, start by typing « sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-2.6.22-14-generic linux-image-2.6.22-14-386 »
[16:30] <mojo> Bananobot: o/c you tried connecting locally (http://<IP_ADDRESS>/ or http://localhost) to no avail?
[16:30] <pihhan> mojo: no, that is wrong, apache2 is normal daemon with many threads
[16:31] <bazhang> nevem: how did you install driver? there seems to be a problem with your modelines what about sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[16:31] <mojo> pihhan: okay, well i couldn't remember.  maybe it is proftpd that does it that way
[16:31] <vlad> can someone help me with at problem?
[16:31] <crazytalk> i had to download an old version of wine-0.9.58 instead of the latest to correct a warcraft bug. i now have the dir sitting on my desktop, how do i install it?
[16:31] <crazytalk> i think it is the source code
[16:31] <Rafase283> http://i26.tinypic.com/2a5n1xl.png
[16:31] <pihhan> Bananobot: check logs at /var/log/apache2, check apache -S, if it wont report configuration file error
[16:31] <BVBBQ> LjL,  oh yeah i forgot to mention. i cant even use the newest kernel of ubuntu. just doesnt startup on my comp
[16:31] <nevem> bazhang: did that but i try again and post the results again
[16:31] <pihhan> apache2 -S for apache 2 :)
[16:32] <tatters> has the  release candidate been released yet for hardy?
[16:32] <Skalle> Hello everyone. For some reason my desktop manager won't run, when I start the computer I first see the "ubuntu" screen with the progress bar, but then it enters text-mode. I am running irssi from terminal right now. Anyone have any idea why graphic mode won't work?(gutsy)
[16:32] <bazhang> nevem: how did you install the driver
[16:32] <mojo> Anyone know how to get a package list off a borked / install?  The drive had errors and now won't boot, though it was "fixed" with fsck and is mountable when booting another partiton as root.
[16:32] <LjL> BVBBQ: that would be 2.6.22-14?
[16:32] <bazhang> tatters: #ubuntu+1 please
[16:32] <Leeuw> vlad: just ask the question, don't ask to ask; someone will see it if they know they' ll answer
[16:32] <pihhan> Skalle: we dont know, but you can read something about it in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:33] <jughead> Skalle, there is a log file somewhere you can check
[16:33] <WildChild7> hello there. I use kde and when I try to add .mkv file into new data dvd project with k3b, which is bigger than 4gb I get message: It is not possible to add files bigger than 4,0 GB  How can I add files bigger than 4gb in k3b ?
[16:33] <BVBBQ> LjL, im using one that is 2 versions old.
[16:33] <LjL> mojo: cat /var/lib/dpkg/status | grep "install ok" -B 1 | grep Package
[16:33] <LjL> BVBBQ: well, that 2.6.22-14 doesn't work is not surprising, given the modules are broken. the command i gave you above might fix it
[16:33] <OllieH> Do I choose SMARTPlacement or consolidate free space?
[16:33] <BVBBQ> LjL,  well thats a pretty good start to things then.
[16:34] <bazhang> OllieH: for what program
[16:34] <pihhan> mojo: dpkg-query -W might report installed packages, but i believe there is some better way i never tried
[16:34] <mojo> LjL: Thanks...  is that giving me the same list as that dpkg-list (or whatever) command?  a list I can use to re-config a new install to the same packages?
[16:34] <BVBBQ> LjL,  might not have to wipe the computer afterall.
[16:34] <vlad> i got ati x1550 pro with restricted drivers intalled when i try to put normal or extra visual effects it says the composite extension is not available how can i fix that
[16:34] <OllieH> bazhang: PerfectDisk 2008
[16:34] <BXCracer> hi everyone. i want to ask one question. I have a pixelview playtv pro and when i load bttv with card=37 everything seems to work but there's no IR device in /proc/bus/input/devices, but if i load it with other option for example card=50 IR device appears in /proc/bus/input/devices but there's no sound or video is only black and white. what sould i do ?
[16:34] <Skalle> thanks, I'll check the log file, I have to go but I'll be back later....
[16:34] <scapor> Hi.  I found the webpage fro 8.04 RC but the download links point to the beta iso's.  Are the RC iso's not yet uplaoded ?
[16:35] <bazhang> OllieH: that is linux or windows?
[16:35] <mojo> pihhan: yeah, the dpkg-query thing i know works on your active installation, but i hope to extract the list from a error-recovered/non-bootable linux root partiton (not active root)
[16:35] <crazytalk> i had to download an old version of wine-0.9.58 instead of the latest to correct a warcraft bug. i now have the dir sitting on my desktop, how do i install it?
[16:35] <BXCracer> Can anyone help me ?
[16:35] <pihhan> mojo: you can always use chroot /your/broken/system and do commands there
[16:35] <LjL> BVBBQ: now type also the following command
[16:35] <LjL> BVBBQ: sudo apt-get --reinstall install acetoneiso2 at base-files bc binutils binutils-static bogofilter bzip2 dc dosfstools easycam ed frostwire g++ gaim gij gnupg gpgv initscripts iproute klogd lastfm libaudio2 libbz2-1.0 libbz2-dev libdb4.2 libdb4.3 libdb4.4 libdb4.5 libfontconfig1 libgdbm3 libglib2.0-cil libgnomevfs2-common libgsm1 libgstreamer0.10-0 libhal1 libncurses5 libncurses5-dev libncursesw5 libvte-common linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic linux-image-2.
[16:35] <OllieH> bazhang: windows :P im doing it to get enough contiguous space for a linux partition xD
[16:35] <LjL> 6.17-11-generic linux-image-2.6.17-12-generic mawk mime-support module-init-tools mono-runtime ncurses-base ncurses-bin netbase openoffice.org-l10n-en-us openoffice.org-style-default python-dev rsync startup-tasks strace sun-java5-plugin sysklogd sysv-rc sysvutils
[16:36] <mojo> pihhan: oh really?
[16:36] <bazhang> OllieH: then take it to ##windows please thanks
[16:36] <LjL> BVBBQ: (uhm, bit long). that will fix the packages that debsums lists are broken. then run debsums -s -g again to check for the packages that it couldn't find before.
[16:36] <mojo> pihhan: thing that might hold that up is the "broken" is amd64 arch, and i am running i386 arch for the "recovery"
[16:36] <legend2440> vlad: in terminal gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf at very bottom of xorg file check  Option	    "Composite" "Enable" make sure it is enabled
[16:36] <BVBBQ> LjL, thanks, im still waiting for the download. im in china and internet here is terrible
[16:37] <LjL> BVBBQ: if it complains that some packages are not available, then remove such packages from the command
[16:37] <LoPMX> hi
[16:37] <pihhan> mojo: dont know, try it and see what happens
[16:37] <LjL> BVBBQ: it will take a while.
[16:37] <LoPMX> how can I look up m ubuntu architecture? is it 32 or 64 bit?
[16:37] <OllieH> kk
[16:37] <BVBBQ> LjL, i have plenty of time
[16:37] <Leeuw> vlad, tommm' s answer was probably right, but is dangerous to edit xorg.conf, easy to break things; do some google 'ing on ATI and XORG, do some study, see if you understand and try from there, if there's no better answer here; but keep trying, someone might know better solution.
[16:37] <LjL> LoPMX: uname -m
[16:37] <nevem> bazhang: my reconfigured xorg.conf: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/63537/
[16:38] <vlad> thx Leeuw
[16:38] <LoPMX> LjL: thank you
[16:38] <Leeuw> vlad: :-D
[16:39] <bazhang> nevem: that has the resolution you need correct? how did you install the drivers (third time asking this question)
[16:40] <humbolto> how to import my evolution contacts into thunderbird?
[16:41] <tbenita> Hi, anybody knows if kernel 2.6.25 is planned for Hardy final ?
[16:41] <skarface> doubtful
[16:41] <ikonia> tbenita: it's not
[16:41] <nevem> bazhang: installing drivers? did not install anything...
[16:41] <bazhang> I give up redirecting
[16:41] <ikonia> bazhang: I hear you
[16:42] <tbenita> thx ikonia
[16:42] <bazhang> let the mods sort em out ;]
[16:42] <edemkrimea> hello
[16:42] <bazhang> nevem: that is the res you wanted correct?
[16:42] <timtom1> how do you get interface <IP_ADDRESS> in wireshark?
[16:42] <nevem> yes
[16:42] <nevem> that is it
[16:42] <ikonia> timtom1: thats the loop back
[16:43] <peda_> hello, i got one problem... i am new at ubuntu and installed tvtime to watch tv with my analog tv card.. i get the channels and also see the "video", but i don't hear any sound! how do i activate line-in so i can hear it?!
[16:43] <bazhang> nevem: so is it that res now? or only in xorg
[16:43] <skarface> timtom1: go to capture and pick lo
[16:43] <Zaxxon> Hey there,  I was wondering how I can get Firefox 3 beta five running on my computer?  I checked the package manager, but didn't see it there.
[16:43] <timtom1> lo is not there on selection.
[16:44] <edemkrimea> anybody from ukraine
[16:44] <LjL> peda_: from the system mixer, i guess
[16:44] <LjL> !ua | edemkrimea
[16:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ua - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:44] <LjL> hmpf... edemkrimea, #ubuntu-ua
[16:44] <bazhang> Zaxxon: either get it from firefox site or wait a week and get in next release
[16:44] <peda_> yeah, i activated everything there, but i still dont hear a thing
[16:44] <Zaxxon> I'm just not clear on how installing programs on Ubuntu :(
[16:44] <ikonia> Zaxxon: then you don't
[16:44] <timtom1> skarface: lo is not showing up on wireshark selection.
[16:44] <ikonia> Zaxxon: if it's not in the package manager you - wait until it is
[16:45] <nevem> bazhang: only in xorg - i mean its a little bit stupid, because i have 1024x768 windows but i can see a 1280x800 background if you understand what i mean (on the left side and the bottom there are no windows etc, only the background...
[16:45] <stroganoff> Zaxxon: http://getswiftfox.com/deb.htm
[16:45] <skarface> timtom1: sorry
[16:45] <nevem> bazhang: and the highest available resolution in the settings is 1024x768@30
[16:45] <ikonia> stroganoff: don't push that sort of stuff out
[16:45] <dmsuperma1> Zaxxon: most apps have INSTALL files to tell you how, but a lot of them are in packages
[16:45] <legend2440> Zaxxon: do you have gutsy-backports checked in repo settings?
[16:45] <SnakeArt> Hi, everyone!
[16:45] <ikonia> legend2440: it's not in it
[16:46] <Bananobot> mojo: I checked http://localhost/ in lynx and got a connection refused.
[16:46] <Zaxxon> I don't think I'm running Gutsy.. I think I'm running Feisty
[16:46] <bazhang> nevem: you rebooted?
[16:46] <skarface> timtom1: are you running wireshark as root?
[16:46] <peda_> can someone help me with my tv-card problem?
[16:46] <ikonia> Bananobot so there is nothing running on localhost