[16:54] <daftykins> Beldar: sorry to second guess, but pretty sure 13.04 has been gone since January?
[16:54] <Guest1153> thanks Beldar
[16:54] <exploit> check on your terminal ifconfig to see what going on
[16:54] <Guest1153> everything works except the sound grrr
[16:54] <daftykins> majod: what do you believe is the benefit to moving them to the HDD then?
[16:54] <Guest1153> that's the only thing I need
[16:54] <Guest1153> all the other distro have no problem with the sound
[16:55] <Guest1153> but I had a lot of problem with the WiFi
[16:55] <Beldar> !13.04
[16:55] <Guest1153> I bought a dungle and it works but not in 14.04
[16:55] <exploit> maybe your wifi card inside your notebook is not work fine.
[16:55] <Guest1153> ok
[16:55] <majod> daftykins, to install software where i want it to
[16:55] <Beldar> daftykins, No problem, man it seems eol.
[16:56] <Beldar> Guest1153, So 13.04 is actually eol.
[16:56] <PlogFloyd> anyoneobdy know php and can explain this error? http://goo.gl/mzptU5 ?
[16:56] <daftykins> majod: you'd have to mount the path most programs want to install to, to the HDD via a manual path edit
[16:56] <daftykins> majod: i don't think you can override the path packages want to install to
[16:57] <majod> daftykins, well, if i can for example download compressed games and just uncompress them to my hdd and play, id like to be able to do that with games in software center...if its not possible, then ok
[16:57] <Guest1153> I a going to try 13.10 now
[16:57] <Guest1153> thanks!
[16:58] <daftykins> majod: no packages don't work like that. you could try and find said games manually... but you're likely to get issues running them if they're not meant for ubuntu specifically.
[16:58] <Beldar> oh my another eol, oh well.
[16:59] <citrix> hii
[16:59] <daftykins> hello.
[17:02] <exploit> hello
[17:04] <riverloop> hi everyone
[17:04] <rahul___> citrix, jj
[17:04] <riverloop> Can I align desktop icons to right, like OSX?
[17:05] <Ingrid18>  You can find funny videos here. http://j.mp/1gAh6Jy
[17:05] <theadmin> uh...
[17:06] <theadmin> Ingrid18: That's offtopic, and spam. This isn't welcome here.
[17:06] <compdoc> I think he knows :)
[17:08] <tessarakt> My upgrade to 14.04 terminated in the middle because of too many configuration errors ...
[17:08] <rantic> Does anyone have a recommendation for an article or guide to join an ubuntu 14.04 machine to a windows active directory environment?
[17:08] <tessarakt> and now sudo crashes, so I don't know how to continue :-(
[17:09] <g3ek> hi. somebody uses ubuntu on a phone?
[17:09] <Beldar> tessarakt, If you want help here any errors need a pastebin and context.
[17:09] <daftykins> !touch | g3ek
[17:09] <tessarakt> Beldar: there is no context
[17:09] <tessarakt> I just get a "Speicherzugriffsfehler"
[17:10] <Beldar> tessarakt, Really you gave one or two just no real details that we can use to help.
[17:10] <tessarakt> and the log of the Ubuntu upgrade went away when I pressed x
[17:11] <tessarakt> I know that _normally_ I could just continue by repeated executions of apt-get -f install, apt-get dist-upgrade and dpkg --configure -a
[17:11] <tessarakt> but all these need superuser rights
[17:11] <daftykins> tessarakt: what exactly happens when trying to run e.g. "sudo -i" ?
[17:12] <tessarakt> "Speicherzugriffsfehler (Speicherabzug geschrieben)"
[17:12] <daftykins> i see
[17:12] <daftykins> tessarakt: truthfully, if you have much data i would backup and clean install 14.04. if you insist on trying to fix it you can reboot and try the recovery boot via GRUB to get a root shell however.
[17:13] <daftykins> *don't have much data
[17:13] <tessarakt> well, I _could_ just copy over the system from my notebook or something like that ...
[17:15] <davidnknight> Anyone know how to stop git from asking for SSH key passphrase every time?
[17:16] <omar_> So, as I get it, 13.10 is no longer updated?
[17:16] <daftykins> !13.10
[17:16] <davidnknight> !12.04
[17:16] <daftykins> omar_: 9 months, so that makes it july - practically dead yes.
[17:17] <omar_> daftykins, That's too bad.. :\
[17:17] <samppady> I have nasty overscan problem on hdmi i am using intel nuc, is there way fix overscan problem?  pic: https://www.dropbox.com/s/3lp1s61md72ihbb/20140516_200917.jpg
[17:17] <davidnknight> !14.04
[17:17] <daftykins> omar_: what's up exactly?
[17:18] <daftykins> davidnknight: if you want to go nuts with the bot please query it
[17:18] <daftykins> (private message)
[17:18] <davidnknight> OK. Sorry.
[17:19] <omar_> daftykins, I am thinking of downgrading to 13.10 in order to be able to use the "hostapd" application again, which is totally broken in 14.04.
[17:19] <davidnknight> So, anyone know how to stop git from asking for SSH key passphrase every time?
[17:19] <daftykins> omar_: mmm, that would definitely be a lot of effort for just a couple of months.
[17:20] <daftykins> omar_: have you attempted to find out if the issues are bugs and will be fixed anytime soon?
[17:21] <necrogami> Any idea why when i change my network interface to vmbr0 ip addr reports the interface as UNKNOWN
[17:21] <omar_> daftykins, The broken package has been reported on launchpad, yes. And it's even set to "confirmed" and "critical", but I'm not sure how long it's going to take until it's fixed.
[17:22] <omar_> daftykins, In fact, some bugs are simply never fixed. So.. you never know. :\
[17:22] <daftykins> necrogami: maybe... that interface doesn't exist? :)
[17:22] <necrogami> daftykins: it's a vritual bridge
[17:23] <daftykins> necrogami: yeah i got that from the name... but does it actually exist? what's the full story, what are you *really* doing?
[17:23] <necrogami> I'm setting up virtual servers
[17:23] <resinate> where are the ubuntu tutorials?
[17:23] <necrogami> they route though a virtual bridge
[17:24] <tessarakt> what I probably need is a statically linked sudo ...
[17:24] <daftykins> tessarakt: what i suggested would seem easier.
[17:26] <hexhaxtron> What is the deferwq process for?
[17:26] <YokoBR> hi guys, i'm on ubuntu 64 bit and i'm trying to run an app but i get "error while loading shared libraries: libgnome-2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[17:26] <ikonia> YokoBR: what app
[17:27] <ikonia> YokoBR: sounds like it depends on an obsolete library thats not installed on your system
[17:27] <YokoBR> tululoo
[17:27] <ikonia> YokoBR: where did you get the app ?
[17:27] <daftykins> necrogami: use 'ifconfig -a' to confirm the interface exists with that name and is up
[17:28] <davidnknight> I need to know how to stop git from asking for SSH key passphrase every time? I tried `ssh-agent bash` but it resets after each terminal close.
[17:28] <ikonia> davidnknight: use gnome-keyring to hold your keys
[17:28] <ikonia> davidnknight: or something along those lines
[17:29] <YokoBR> ikonia, from their website. Seems it's because i have the 64bit version of that lib
[17:29] <YokoBR> and i need the 32bit version
[17:29] <ikonia> YokoBR: you actually have the 64bit version, I'm susprised that's installed either
[17:31] <YokoBR> ikonia, yep, but how can i have the 32bit package?
[17:31] <ikonia> YokoBR: I don't know if the 32bit library is available as a compatability library
[17:32] <ikonia> I wouldn't advies installing the 32bit library from the 32bit repos to create a conflict
[17:32] <davidnknight> ikonia: thanks, I'll try that now.
[17:32] <YokoBR> omg.. so there's no way to run it
[17:32] <ikonia> YokoBR: get the 64bit version of the binary ?
[17:32] <ikonia> YokoBR: rebuild it yourself ?
[17:33] <ikonia> YokoBR: see if anyone has it packaged for 64bit
[17:33] <ikonia> use a 32bit OS
[17:33] <ikonia> many ways
[17:33] <ikonia> don't know how realistic they are though
[17:33] <Israphel2> Can I have teamviewer 8 and 9 on Trusty?
[17:33] <daftykins> Israphel2: sure, download their 32-bit .deb
[17:34] <Israphel2> daftykins: I tried but 9 replaces 8
[17:34] <Israphel2> I need both
[17:34] <daftykins> why...
[17:34] <Israphel2> cause 9 doesn't work with other people using 8
[17:34] <daftykins> get them to update
[17:34] <Israphel2> and viceversa
[17:34] <dino82> I hate teamviewer for that reason
[17:34] <Israphel2> I wish I can
[17:35] <Israphel2> but customers are always right
[17:35] <Israphel2> I was trying the tar.gz version
[17:35] <Israphel2> but I couldn't even run the checklib
[17:35] <daftykins> ugh
[17:37] <riqdiiz> !Ubuntu for phones
[17:37] <riqdiiz> ok
[17:37] <daftykins> riqdiiz: #ubuntu-touch
[17:38] <riqdiiz> k daft thanks.
[17:38] <Guest54470> How to find user identity with uidNumber? id -a 5555 does not output anything. but when i do id -a username it shows the informations. Any help please
[17:39] <ikonia> Guest54470: where are your users held
[17:40] <Israphel2> looks like it works in ~ but not in /opt
[17:41] <Guest54470> There are many servers e.g. qa01,qa02...... but i have logged in a specific server, and when i do cat /etc/passwd it does not show all the users. I just wanna mke sure that specific uidnumber is used by the specific user

[17:42] <ikonia> Guest54470: so what are you authing against, ldap, nis, ?
 ldap
[17:43] <ciaobelli> ciao
[17:43] <ciaobelli> !lista
 earlier two user have the same Uidnumber so there was a conflict between the users. so i gave one user new uidnumber but i just wanna make sure it conflicts with another users
[17:44] <ikonia> Guest54470: so what are you authing against, ldap, nis, ?
 ldap servers
[17:44] <ikonia> Guest54470: so, getent should work, or ldapsearch should too
 I have assigned one user randomly uidnumber......how can I make sure that is not use by another users?
[17:46] <ikonia> Guest54470: I just said, getent, or ldapsearch
[17:46] <davidnknight> ikonia: I don't think Gnome keyring will work for my use case. It requires a master password to use stored credentials right?
[17:46] <genii> Guest54470: grep uidnumber /etc/group
[17:47] <ikonia> davidnknight: it just requies your key passwor
[17:47] <ikonia> genii: won't work, he's using ldap
[17:47] <genii> ikonia: Aaah, OK
[17:47] <davidnknight> And there's no future password to unlock the use of stored passwords?
[17:47] <ikonia> davidnknight: no, just the key
[17:47] <ikonia> davidnknight: eg: it stores the key you want
[17:47] <davidnknight> Do you know if this will work with ansible?
[17:48] <davidnknight> Basically, ansible is unable to clone a private repo because it requires a passphrase for the ssh key, which ansible doesn't prompt for and instead just hangs.
[17:48] <ikonia> davidnknight: as an odd twist, someone asked almost this exact question around 4 days ago, and I've never done it, but research suggests it "should"
 <genni> thanks
[17:48] <ainx> anyone know best game morpg for linux?
[17:49] <daftykins> ainx: that is not an appropriate question for here
[17:49] <omar_> So, basically... Neither Ubuntu supports infrastructure out-of-the-box, not Andriod supports ad-hoc.. How ironic.. :\
[17:49] <ikonia> omar_: ubuntu supports infrastructure just fine
[17:49] <davidnknight> sudo apt-get install libgnome-keyring-dev
[17:49] <samppady> Can someone help, Intel nuc hdmi Tv overscan problem is there easy way to fix it?
[17:49] <davidnknight> This is the right package?
[17:49] <ainx> oh okay, that good daftykins
[17:49] <lluad> Is apt-cacher-ng still state of the art for caching debs?
[17:49] <ikonia> davidnknight: thats the development package
[17:49] <omar_> ikonia, Really? Could you please help configure it then?
[17:50] <ikonia> omar_: you should be able to do it thorugh network manager
[17:50] <ikonia> omar_: there are times it won't work if your network card uses certain propritary drivers
[17:50] <omar_> ikonia, hmm. I see.
[17:51] <Praxi> If anyone can help with a udev rule; http://askubuntu.com/questions/466480/trying-to-create-udev-rule-to-mount-removable-drive-exfat-partition
[17:51] <daftykins> i believe there's a slight misuse of terms there, infrastructure means connecting to APs, not hosting an AP
[17:51] <ikonia> right, is that not what he wants ?
[17:53] <omar_> ikonia, Okay. I will try it as soon as I get home, and get back to you later in case I face any issues. Is that okay?
[17:54] <ikonia> omar_: just ask the channel if you have problems
[17:54] <omar_> ikonia, Okay sure. Thanks.
[17:54] <riverloop> Does anybody know how to align the desktop icons to the right automatically as in OS X?
[17:55] <riverloop> Or is this impossible?
[17:55] <ikonia> riverloop: we support ubuntu here, not OS X
[17:55] <omar_> ikonia, Just to make sure we're on the same page here. I am talking about infrastructure hotspot (in case there's any difference).
[17:55] <ikonia> riverloop: try #macosx channel
[17:55] <LinksEz> Hi is there a reason remmina would not use the proper sound drivers or something?
[17:55] <ikonia> omar_: yeah, thats different than what you asked, but I believe network manager should also allow this
[17:56] <riverloop> ikonia: you totally missed my point.
[17:56] <daftykins> ikonia: i believe you misread riverloop
[17:56] <riverloop> I want to align desktop icons to the right, in ubuntu.
[17:56] <Pessimist> riverloop: I don't think so and I don't see the point why would any developer waste time on such funcionality
[17:56] <ikonia> riverloop: oh, as in OS X
[17:56] <ikonia> riverloop: sorry, miss-read
[17:56] <omar_> ikonia, hmm... I see.
[17:57] <riverloop> Pessimist: I prefer right-aligned icons. Just asked to see if there's any way to do that.
[17:58] <omar_> ikonia, The problem is, all how-tos are talking about making an infrastructure hotspot through an app called ap-hotspot, which depends on another app called hostapd, which is broken in 14.04.
[17:58] <Masky> when I started using gnome, some of my non-gnome applications have strange colors (ie: black background). Does anyone have any ideas how I could fix this and return the colors to normal?
[18:05] <Trudko> guys where should I put Android studio, under the /opt?
[18:06] <ikonia> Trudko: anywhere you want
[18:06] <Trudko> ikonia: whats common plae
[18:06] <Trudko> place
[18:07] <ikonia> there is no common place
[18:07] <ikonia> it's up to you
[18:08] <trism> Trudko: I just put it in my home directory, ~/Projects/android/, otherwise when it updates you'll either have to own a directory in /opt or be root
[18:08] <thescorp> Is the problem with multimonitor and SLI still around?
[18:09] <bluezone> i see getting my app onto the ubuntu story will be a big mess :(
[18:09] <EleanorEllis> cd ~
[18:09] <erictr1ck> i installed eclipse from the ubuntu software center but it will not load when clicking on the launcher that was created after the install. i fires up with no issues though when typing eclipse into the terminal.
[18:10] <olikanoli> irc://irc.abjects.net/beast-xdcc
[18:10] <ikonia> olikanoli: please don't spam that stuff
[18:10] <EleanorEllis> I can't move anything to the Trash. I tried following http://askubuntu.com/questions/288513/cant-move-files-to-the-trash but this didn't work
[18:10] <olikanoli> sorry
[18:10] <ikonia> EleanorEllis: what happens when you try
[18:10] <Ugb3> Hey guys, do you know if there is any incompatibility issue with 14.04 and old Athlon 64 ?
[18:11] <daftykins> Ugb3: shouldn't be
[18:11] <daftykins> Ugb3: something going wrong?
[18:11] <Ugb3> When i try to bot the cd I get stuck with the 5 orange dots.
[18:11] <EleanorEllis> ikonia: Sorry, I accidentally pressed enter before I had finished. However, nothing at all happens. When I ls from ~/.local/share there is no folder called Trash
[18:12] <daftykins> Ugb3: what graphics hardware in there?
[18:12] <ikonia> EleanorEllis: create it ?
[18:13] <olikanoli> #ZTV
[18:14] <Ugb3> daftykins: ah it may be that, an old ati (3550 i think)
[18:14] <daftykins> Ugb3: give this a go...
[18:14] <daftykins> !nomodeset | Ugb3
[18:14] <Ugb3> Thanks guys
[18:14] <Ugb3> gonna try
[18:14] <daftykins> Ugb3: i must leave now, but feel free to address the channel again if it doesn't help
[18:15] <EleanorEllis> ikonia: I tried mkdir Trash and it says File exists
[18:15] <Ugb3> ok thanks daftykins
[18:15] <ikonia> EleanorEllis: ok, so you can see the problem then....
[18:15] <EleanorEllis> except it doesn't show when I ls
[18:15] <erictr1ck> any ideas why the launcher for eclipse doesnt work after installing eclipse from the software center?
[18:16] <ikonia> EleanorEllis: so it's possible corruption
[18:16] <OerHeks> ls -l
[18:16] <EleanorEllis> ikonia: Oh no. I realised I need ls -a as it's a hidden folder. It does show
[18:17] <ikonia> EleanorEllis: there you go then....
[18:18] <OerHeks> try 'll' to see max info
[18:19]  * OerHeks loves lazy shortcuts
[18:19] <EleanorEllis> ikonia: According to Trash's properties, I am the owner and I have permission to create and delete files. However, I still can't move files to the Rubbish bin by deleting them in Nautilus
[18:19] <ced_> y
[18:20] <ced_> hello
[18:20] <EleanorEllis> ikonia: A few weeks ago I did change my username, so I had to rename my home directory and take ownership of all my files. Maybe that has something to do with it.
[18:20] <ikonia> EleanorEllis: create a file in there, and look at what's in there
[18:20] <erictr1ck> even if i run eclipse by starting it though the terminal, and then "lock to launcher" the launcher still fails to work after eclipse is closed.
[18:23] <EleanorEllis> ikonia: PI can create an empty file in ~/.local/share/Trash
[18:23] <EleanorEllis> ikonia: And I can make changes to it
[18:23] <ikonia> EleanorEllis: ok, so that's a pretty reasonable start
[18:23] <EleanorEllis> ikonia: Should I maybe try deleting and recreating Trash?
[18:24] <Mithran> how to connect my iphone to pc
[18:24] <ikonia> EleanorEllis: don't see a huge difference in doing that, but possible
[18:24] <ikonia> Mithran: iphone/linux are not a stable pairing
[18:24] <ikonia> Mithran: support/compatability is a moving target
[18:25] <MeisMini> hey i got a question about ubuntu 14.04
[18:25] <killer> Hey , why create launcher or startup applications can't find the relative files that my application might need
[18:25] <w0lfsta> Hi.. Im trying to do a minimal install with E18 for desktop..  I installed no packages from mini.iso then after i installed xorg.. now whats the best way to get e18 running on ubuntu?  i found these instructions but they don't seem to work.....  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:vase/ppa   sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get install enlightenment
[18:25] <EleanorEllis> ikonia: I don't understand why but it seems to have worked
[18:25] <Mithran> ikonia: ?
[18:26] <ikonia> Mithran: what part of what I said is nt clear
[18:26] <ikonia> EleanorEllis: cool
[18:26] <Mithran>  ikonia: iphone/linux are not a stable pairing
[18:26] <ikonia> Mithran: they do not work together
[18:27] <Mithran> ikonia: then how do i upgrade my iphone?
[18:27] <ikonia> Mithran: use a supported OS, windows or mac os x
[18:27] <EleanorEllis> Mithran: You might have to boot into windows. You might be able to do it from a virtual machine if your machine doesnt dual boot
[18:27] <Mithran> Please help me there is no windows or mac installed i am always running in ubuntu
[18:27] <MeisMini> does it happen alot that ubuntu 14.04 doesnt get a coursor
[18:28] <ikonia> Mithran: then you are out of luck - it is not a stable device to use
[18:28] <Mithran> ohhhhhhh god.........
[18:31] <hexhaxtron> What is the deferwq process for?
[18:31] <Raydiation> ubuntu uses www-data as apache2 user and group right?
[18:32] <ikonia> yes
[18:32] <ikonia> Raydiation: you can check this in the site config
[18:33] <Raydiation> ty
[18:51] <yohy> Can i get some help with some c code?
[18:52] <ikonia> yohy: try ##c channel
[18:52] <yohy> okay
[18:53] <fradeb> hallo everybody
[18:54] <fradeb> i need support please
[18:54] <thescorp> Hm, for some reason my sound source keeps changing away from the xonar one when I reboot. *goes googling*
[18:55] <Praxi> So I have been struggling to auto mount an external non usb drive.  Been working on this for days.  Maybe I just need to start over.  When a drive with UUID 5359-818E is HOT inserted into the computer, I want to mount it at /media/offsite  What should I be looking at?
[18:56] <ikonia> Praxi: extenal non-usb ?
[18:57] <ikonia> Praxi: how have you got an external non-usb disk ?
[18:57] <Praxi> sorry hot plugging a dock
[18:57] <Praxi> so not really external :)
[18:57] <ikonia> Praxi: what is the interface connecting the drive to the computer
[18:57] <Praxi> sata
[18:58] <ikonia> Praxi: sata is not hotplug on most home motherboards
[18:58] <fradeb> my pc says:
[18:58] <Praxi> the drive is detected fine, I can run commands by hand, mount it, etc.
[18:58] <Praxi> the sata spec itself is hotplug
[18:58] <ikonia> Praxi: what sata spec ?
[18:58] <Trudko> Guys I have installed touchpad indincator but when I run it nothing happens , where do I find some error message?
[18:58] <fradeb> error: file not found, grub rescue
[18:58] <fradeb> error: file not found, grub rescue
[18:59] <fradeb> what can i do?
[18:59] <Trudko> or how else could I disable touchpad while typing?
[18:59] <Praxi> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA#Hotplug ikonia
[18:59] <Trudko> should I just run syndaemon -i 0.02 -d & ?
[18:59] <ikonia> Praxi: that is not on all boards/chipset
[19:00] <Praxi> it doesn't matter for my conversation, my board supports it, as do all boards I own
[19:00] <fradeb> excuse me
[19:00] <fradeb> error: file not found, grub rescue
[19:00] <ikonia> Praxi: it does matter
[19:00] <ikonia> Praxi: how do you know your board supports sata hot plug ?
[19:00] <Praxi> because the drive works
[19:00] <Praxi> I can mount it
[19:00] <KGM70> I have an esata to sata outboard HDD , and it was found at boot only after connecting it while the pc was off , Praxi
[19:00] <Praxi> I can read it, I can write it
[19:00] <ikonia> Praxi: tht isn't hot plug
[19:00] <ikonia> Praxi: but I can see how it's confusing
[19:01] <fradeb> error: file not found, grub rescue
[19:01] <fradeb> what can i do?
[19:01] <ikonia> !patience | fradeb
[19:01] <fradeb> i'm sorry, ikonia
[19:01] <ikonia> fradeb: its fine
[19:01] <fradeb> but i've looked on all the web
[19:02] <Beldar> fradeb, We see you, that is not really enough info, what got you to this situation, what is on the HD?
[19:02] <Praxi> really not sure what your getting at ikonia the definition of hotplugging from wikipedia says : while hot plugging describes the addition of components that would expand the system without significant interruption to the operation of the system.  This is what I'm doing, adding a hard drive without rebooting.  I just want some stuff to happen automatically.  Should I phrase my question differently so were not stuck on this
[19:02] <Praxi>  hot plugging issue?
[19:02] <fradeb> beldar, you means the SO?
[19:03] <ikonia> Praxi: hot plugging is pretty important, as it's the event that tells the OS that "there is a hardware change" that's the key
[19:03] <Beldar> !bootinfo | fradeb do this post a url of in pastebin
[19:03] <ikonia> Praxi: that's why I'm trying to get clarification on your actual hot plug support capabilities
[19:04] <fradeb> beldar, i can't use the pc
[19:04] <Beldar> fradeb, Use a live environment since you have no boot, there is no picture it is a script.
[19:04] <Beldar> ah pc, my missread
[19:04] <fradeb> beldar, there's a big problem
[19:05] <Beldar> fradeb, Which is?
[19:05] <fradeb> beldar, it's an old pc. USB, cd boots doesn't work
[19:05] <fradeb> beldar, i use plop for install bodhy
[19:05] <ikonia> fradeb: then how did you install it
[19:05] <fradeb> beldar, i use plop for install bodhy
[19:05] <ikonia> for install bodhy ?
[19:05] <Beldar> !bodhi
[19:06] <ikonia> I'm really sorry, I don't understand
[19:06] <Praxi> udev does see the drive when its inserted, if I am monitoring udev when its inserted, I see all the normal rules kicked off.  What else can I provide to answer your question ikonia ?
[19:06] <fradeb> ikonia, the pc was windows xp. i installed bodhy with plop.
[19:06] <Beldar> fradeb, bodhi linux?
[19:06] <ikonia> Praxi: not an unclear answer
[19:07] <ikonia> Praxi: so do you see a dbus/hal event trigger ?
[19:07] <fradeb> beldar, yes. bodhi linux.  I doubt much more than lubuntu will run on that computer if that old, just a guess however.
[19:08] <string> i have some problem while autodesk maya
[19:08] <string> error while loading shared libraries: libtiff.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:08] <fradeb> beldar, in fact i would like to install xubuntu, but now the pc is ko!
[19:09] <ikonia> fradeb: you can't install xubuntu without a DVD rom or USB boot capabilities
[19:09] <Beldar> fradeb, seems to be I would get a usb cd reader, will that work?
[19:09] <Beldar> cd/dvd*
[19:09] <fradeb> i don't know
[19:09] <fradeb> but i've installed bodhy!
[19:09] <Praxi> let me check, this is all new to me :)
[19:09] <ikonia> fradeb: what do you want from this channel ?
[19:10] <Beldar> fradeb, If everything is in place you can manually boot grub.
[19:10] <fradeb> ikonia, know the pc is ko. the error is
[19:10] <ikonia> fradeb: I'm not asking you what the error is
[19:10] <Beldar> fradeb, just info for you to take with you, bodhi is not supported here is all.
[19:11] <ikonia> fradeb: what do you wan tthis channel to help you with ?
[19:11] <Praxi> ikonia, do I check for that in udevadm monitor, or somewhere else?
[19:11] <fradeb> a string, for use my pc!
[19:11] <fradeb> there's a grub rescue console
[19:11] <ikonia> Praxi: should see the event in the syslog
[19:11] <ikonia> fradeb: we don't support bodhi
[19:11] <ikonia> fradeb: this channel will not help you with that
[19:12] <fradeb> ikonia, where i have to go?
[19:12] <ikonia> fradeb: bodhi support resources
[19:12] <dedonawryval> I know that I can use gsettings to disable remote searches and shopping, but that's on a user-by-user basis, and I have a lot of users.  Is there a way to disable these at the system level?
[19:13] <ikonia> dedonawryval: remove the packages ?
[19:13] <fradeb> ikonia, anyway grub works on each ubuntu
[19:13] <ikonia> fradeb: you're not using ubuntu
[19:13] <string> error while loading shared libraries: libtiff.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:13] <ikonia> fradeb: hence why thi channel doesn't support you
[19:13] <ikonia> string: you're missing a library
[19:13] <ring3> hi
[19:13] <dedonawryval> Sorry, I forgot to mention that this is 14.04.  In 12.04 I could just remove a package, but it's not so simple in 14.04 apparently.
[19:13] <ring3> i have /var/crash/*.crash   but i need vmcore files :/
[19:13] <ikonia> dedonawryval: should be that simple, what's stopping you
[19:14] <ring3> how to generate vmcore file?
[19:14] <fradeb> ikonia, ubuntu has nothing to do with my question!
[19:14] <string> I'm trying to fix this error but not work
[19:14] <fradeb> ikonia, the problem is grub rescue
[19:14] <ikonia> fradeb - nothing to do with this channel then
[19:14] <ikonia> fradeb: we will not support it in this channel
[19:14] <dedonawryval> For starters, there is no "unity-lens-shopping" package in 14.04.
[19:15] <ikonia> dedonawryval: is there any lens packages ?
[19:15] <ikonia> package names do change
[19:15] <string> from where i can get this library libtiff.so.3
[19:15] <fradeb> ikonia, what doesn't this channel support? i don't understand
[19:15] <ikonia> fradeb: this channel supports ubuntu only - you are not using ubuntu, we do not support you
[19:15] <ikonia> string: libtiff, search for the tiff package in the package manager, it's a graphics library
[19:15] <dedonawryval> There are: unity-lens-applications unity-lens-files unity-lens-friends unity-lens-music unity-lens-photos unity-lens-video
[19:15] <Beldar> fradeb, #bodhilinux or ##grub would be your resources.
[19:15] <fradeb> ikonia, thank you very much.
[19:17] <string> libtiff , i already setup this library but also not work
[19:17] <dedonawryval> None of those sound like they're specific to online search and shopping
[19:18] <samppady> how i can change overscan settings any gui software for it?
[19:18] <ikonia> string: file not found = file not there, or not compatible, eg: 64bit when it wants 32bit
[19:18] <ikonia> dedonawryval: little bit of research seeing what they do...
[19:19] <on3rj> hello
[19:20] <on3rj> j'ai un soucis de paquets : E:Unable to parse package file /var/lib/apt/lists/fr.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_raring_universe_binary-i386_Packages (1), E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[19:20] <on3rj> quelqu'un sait ce que je peux/dois faire ?
[19:20] <dedonawryval> Ooh!  I see that there are a whole bunch of unity-scope-* packages...
[19:20] <on3rj> yes indeed
[19:21] <on3rj> any workaround / solution ?
[19:21] <trism> dedonawryval: I'm pretty sure the ones you want to disable are in the default packages, so can't really uninstall them, but: gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Lenses disabled-scopes "['music-soundcloud.scope', 'more_suggestions-amazon.scope', 'more_suggestions-skimlinks.scope', 'more_suggestions-u1ms.scope']"
[19:21] <string> iKonia , ia have ubuntu 14.4 64bit and maya 2015 , im try to setup this library from terminal please tel me how i can get
[19:21] <trism> dedonawryval: seemed to get most of them when I tried during testing...but I usually just disable the online results so not extensively tested
[19:22] <ikonia> string: read what I told you
[19:23] <dedonawryval> Thanks, but that's on a user-by-user basis, and I have a lot of users.  I was hoping for a way to disable it at the system level.
[19:23] <trism> dedonawryval: you can set gsettings at the system level with override files
[19:23] <ikonia> trism: how does that work ?
[19:23] <dedonawryval> How do I do that?
[19:24] <dw1> string: the package libtiff5 will install libtiff.so.5 not .3 so you might try symlinking /usr/lib/i386/libtiff.so.5 or /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtiff.so.5 to libtiff.so.3 in the same folder, and if that doesnt work compiling/installing libtiff.so.3 without the package manager
[19:25] <trism> dedonawryval: look at the /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/10_ubuntu-settings.gschema.override (create your own and then run glib-compile-schemas /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/)
[19:26] <dedonawryval> trism: That is awesome!  I'm going to give it a try right now!
[19:26] <trism> ikonia: disabling the scopes or overrides?
[19:26] <ikonia> trism: just read what you posted, excellent suggestion
[19:28] <dw1> string: e.g. sudo ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtiff.so.5 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtiff.so.3
[19:30] <string> dw1 , thanks this work now but some library also not work
[19:30] <dw1> string: what do you mean
[19:31] <string> error while loading shared libraries: libssl.so.10
[19:32] <dw1> string: sudo apt-get install libssl1.0.0
[19:32] <dw1> string: err wait
[19:32] <dw1> string: yes that
[19:33] <string> libssl.so.10: cannot open shared object file
[19:33] <string> not work
[19:33] <ikonia> think about it
[19:33] <ikonia> it's the same problem, just a different library
[19:33] <ikonia> this time SSL
[19:34] <dw1> string: then sudo ln -s /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0 /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.10
[19:34] <dw1> differnet folders this time :/
[19:35] <dw1> !cookie | dw1
[19:39] <Capprentice> How do I create app groups in Gnome Shell 3.12 ?
[19:39] <gotpunk> has there been any fix to ubuntu on mac, so that i may have two fingers on my touchpad and still move my pointer?
[19:39] <gotpunk> running 14.04
[19:42] <oneof3> hi. during bootup my system said something like "cant write pipe broken" then booted okay and the OS works. what was that all about?
[19:42] <aarobc> I wonder if ubuntu 14.04 has some brokenness...
[19:43] <Beldar> Capprentice, 3.12 is a ppa version, not technically supported. However there is #gnome
[19:43] <Beldar> supported here*
[19:43] <aarobc> I was testing some stuff for a server, this fails only in ubuntu. other debian based distros handle it just fine: "ffmpeg-i song.m4a -ab 128k -v 0 -f mp3 - | vlc -"
[19:44] <qin_> oneof3: you could grep syslog for "pipe broken" to see if it is usual thing.
[19:45] <oneof3> trying that ty qin_
[19:45] <qin_> gotpunk: launchpad has all boult bugs section
[19:46] <qin_> *about
[19:50] <Jena> is there any way to connect my iphone with ubuntu 14.04
[19:52] <qin_> aarobc: missing space?
[19:52] <fxruby> welcome :D
[19:53] <aarobc> qin_: does that command work for you with an m4a file?
[19:54] <Es0teric> anybody here?
[19:54] <sionronin> hello everyone!
[19:54] <Es0teric> and does anybody know about httpd vhosts?
[19:55] <Es0teric> i get an error saying that my site doesnt exist when i do a2enmod
[19:55] <dw1> but a2enmod is for modules, not sites. :)
[19:55] <sionronin> you want a2ensite
[19:56] <dw1> Es0teric: if the site is in example.com.conf then a2ensite example.com
[19:57] <Es0teric> dw1 it is not... it is just example.com
[19:57] <Es0teric> should i make it example.com.conf?
[19:57] <dw1> probably
[19:57] <Pici> Es0teric: it needs to be a .conf file in newer versions of apache.
[19:59] <Es0teric> dw1 right now i have a serious issue
[19:59] <Es0teric> i configured the vhosts correctly and it is not allowing my subdomain to go to the directory i told it to
[20:00] <dw1> Es0teric: could be .conf or even dns related
[20:01] <dw1> Es0teric: might be better suited for #httpd since its not ubuntu-specific
[20:01] <Pici> Es0teric: are you sure that www-data has enough privleges to access that directory?
[20:02] <Es0teric> Pici should i just make it chown me:www-data
[20:02] <Es0teric> the entire directory?
[20:02] <ikonia> changing permissions blindly is a bad idea
[20:03] <ikonia> you need to understand permissions before making changes
[20:03] <Pici> Es0teric: You should assign permissions correctly.  Just setting the group to www-data might not be enough.
[20:06] <Mantissa> Has anyone had two cards working in crossfire under Linux? How did ye fare?
[20:06] <Es0teric> Pici
[20:06] <Es0teric> it is not
[20:06] <Es0teric> displaying the page
[20:06] <ikonia> Es0teric: you've already said that
[20:06] <qin_> aarobc: I did not test that command, just "ffmpeg-i" looks fooish
[20:06] <ikonia> Es0teric: however the error in not displaying the page is important
[20:06] <ikonia> Es0teric: as is the apache access and err logs
[20:07] <ikonia> as are the permissions on the directory containing your document root
[20:08] <Es0teric> this shit
[20:08] <Ugb3> Wow should i expect a fluid unity with a old AMD 3500+ and an AMD 4550 ?
[20:08] <Es0teric> is pissing me off... i know i set the vhosts correctly
[20:08] <ikonia> Es0teric: there is no need for bad language
[20:08] <Es0teric> and the damn page is not displaying from the subdomain
[20:08] <ikonia> Es0teric: please don't use it, it is not required and it's not welcome
[20:08] <ikonia> Es0teric: repeating it doesn't work doesn't help anyone
[20:08] <Es0teric> ikonia you have to understand this is due in about... 15 mins
[20:09] <Es0teric> and this is the ONLY problem i am having
[20:09] <ikonia> Es0teric: then perhaps you should have an idea what you are doing by now
[20:09] <Es0teric> ikonia i do have an idea of what i am doing
[20:09] <Es0teric> have a vhost directive
[20:09] <Es0teric> linked to a subdomain
[20:09] <SamPoop> fight fight fight
[20:09] <Es0teric> that is not RENDERING
[20:09] <Es0teric> THE PAGE
[20:09] <ikonia> Es0teric: clearly not as you don't know why it's not working, you don't know how to debug it and you're not giving any of the information you are being asked for
[20:09] <ikonia> Es0teric: so what's the actual error
[20:10] <ikonia> Es0teric: what's the actual error
[20:10] <Pici> Es0teric: Okay? And we're not psychic.  We can't magically see why it isn't doing that without you providing the info that ikonia asked for.
[20:10] <Es0teric>  * The apache2 configtest failed. Not doing anything. Output of config test was: (2)No such file or directory: AH02291: Cannot access directory '/var/log/apache/' for error log of vhost defined at /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/dwp.mysite.com.conf:1 AH00014: Configuration check failed Action 'configtest' failed.
[20:11] <ikonia> Es0teric: ok, so there are many errors there
[20:11] <ikonia> Es0teric: the log file is missing
[20:11] <Es0teric> ikonia i went to /var/log/apache2
[20:11] <ikonia> Es0teric: it's not looking in /var/log/apace2
[20:11] <ikonia> its looking in /var/log/apache
[20:11] <ikonia> Cannot access directory '/var/log/apache/'
[20:11] <Es0teric> ikonia so what permissions should i set that directory to?
[20:12] <Es0teric> 775?
[20:12] <ikonia> Es0teric: )No such file or directory
[20:12] <ikonia> Es0teric: "no such file" not "no permissions"
[20:12] <Es0teric> the directory exists
[20:12] <Es0teric> i just checked it
[20:12] <LinuxGuruz> 777
[20:12] <Es0teric> LinuxGuruz i am not stupid
[20:12] <ikonia> LinuxGuruz: please do'nt suggest that sort of thing
[20:12] <ikonia> Es0teric: ok, so what's the permissions on that directory
[20:13] <Es0teric> ikonia -> drwxr-x---
[20:13] <ikonia> Es0teric: owner/grou p?
[20:13] <ikonia> owner / group
[20:13] <Es0teric> ikonia adm/root
[20:13] <CarlFK> Es0teric: please post this:juser@piggy:~$ ls -ld /var/log/apache*
[20:13] <CarlFK> drwxr-x--- 2 root adm 4096 May 12 06:25 /var/log/apache2
[20:13] <ikonia> Es0teric: ok, so that's neer going to work then
[20:13] <SamPoop> im thinking of getting a chromebook. how convinient is a linux setup on the 200 dollar thing?
[20:14] <ikonia> CarlFK: thank you, excellent way to be sure
[20:15] <Es0teric> CarlFK, ikonia  drwxr-x--- 2 root adm 4096 May 11 07:35 /var/log/apache2
[20:15] <ikonia> Es0teric: that is apcache2
[20:15] <ikonia> Es0teric: not apache
[20:15] <jmadero> hi all - if anyone is around who has considered contributing to a FLOSS project - we're looking for new (nonprogramming) volunteers to help us out over at libreoffice (#libreoffice-qa)
[20:15] <ikonia> I asked for the permissions on /var/log apache
[20:15] <ikonia> Es0teric: I've said the directory it's looking at is /var/log/apache
[20:15] <jmadero> apologies to moderators if I broke some rule ;)
[20:15] <ikonia> jmadero: please don't spam
[20:15] <jmadero> ikonia: I know - just hard to reach out to the community - one message, will not again
[20:16] <ikonia> jmadero: thanks
[20:16] <jmadero> I'm sure you know how it is ;)
[20:16] <ikonia> jmadero: yeah, doesn't really make it ok
[20:16] <jmadero> +1 understood
[20:16] <ikonia> jmadero: thanks
[20:16] <jmadero> sure thing
[20:16] <Ugb3> Are the rinimum requirement on the website still up to date ?
[20:16] <Es0teric> ikonia ok so how do i get the error log?
[20:16] <ikonia> Es0teric: I did'nt ask for the error log
[20:16] <ikonia> Es0teric: I asked for the permissions on /var/log/apache
[20:16] <Es0teric> ikonia i know you didnt but i fixed it and it passed
[20:16] <Es0teric> so i am looking to view it
[20:17] <Es0teric> how do i view it
[20:17] <ikonia> this is a waste of time
[20:17] <CarlFK> Es0teric:  I would fix the conf file to use apache2
[20:17] <Es0teric> CarlFK i just did
[20:17] <ikonia> sorry, I can't help you - as you are just changing things, not giving the info I asked for and not giving accurate information
[20:17] <Ugb3> I mean, are the minimum requirement to run ubuntu written on the ubuntu website, still accurate ?
[20:17] <Es0teric> ikonia there is no "apache" folder
[20:17] <Es0teric> i changed it to apache2 because that is the name of the folder
[20:17] <Es0teric> clearly it was a typo, moving on from that how do i view the error log
[20:17] <ikonia> Es0teric: yes, you said there was an apache folder - you are not giving accurate information/checking your information
[20:18] <CarlFK> Es0teric:  * The apache2 configtest failed. - do that again, post message.
[20:18] <qin_> Ugb3: Roughly?
[20:19] <Es0teric> CarlFK, ikonia  this is what i typed service apache2 reload
[20:19] <Es0teric>  * Reloading web server apache2                                                                                *
[20:19] <Es0teric> so it passed
[20:19] <Es0teric> again, moving on from that i need to view the error log, how do i view it
[20:19] <LinuxGuruz> wierd question
[20:20] <guntbert> Es0teric: less /var/log/apache2/error.log
[20:20] <Ugb3> qin_: Really ? So unity should be fluid/usable with an AMD 3500+ and an ATI 4550 (all above the minimum)
[20:20] <qin_> Ugb3: Where did you find minimum?
[20:20] <Ugb3> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[20:21] <john1_> hi
[20:21] <CarlFK> qin_: likely it will depend on what you are expecting, which will depend on what other systems you use.
[20:21] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: If those cards have decent drivers available, yes.
[20:21] <Es0teric> this is what the error log says [Fri May 16 19:59:09.334897 2014] [core:notice] [pid 21625] AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2'
[20:21] <qin_> Ugb3: That is community page. And includes Xubntu
[20:22] <Ugb3> My pc was wonderfully fluid with gnome 3, so i guess it should be too.
[20:22] <Ugb3> qin_: Ah my bad, do you know where i could find the minimum requirement for ubuntu unity ?
[20:22] <guntbert> Es0teric: why are you telling us this?
[20:22] <ikonia> Ugb3: is it not listed on the website ?
[20:22] <Es0teric> guntbert because...
[20:22] <Es0teric> nvm
[20:23] <Ugb3> ikonia: maybe i'm not doing it right but i can't seem to find it.
[20:23] <ikonia> Ugb3: always used to be there
[20:24] <Ugb3> ikonia: on the main ubuntu website ?
[20:24] <ikonia> which pretty much sums it up
[20:24] <ikonia> Ugb3: just looking myself, everything I see is shockingly out of date,
[20:24] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: The smoothness of Unity will usually depend much more on the quality of the drivers than the capabilities of the hardware.
[20:25] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: Mhh my card worked pretty smooth on Fedora and Gnome3
[20:25] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: With hardware acceleration, so i guess it should also works well in ubuntu.
[20:26] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: Most likely, yes.
[20:26] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: Ok, i'm currently finishing the instalation, the live cd was slow as a slideshow but i hope i will figure out.
[20:28] <qin_> Ugb3: Well, Ubuntu-gnome is pretty neat, if it helps.
[20:29] <Ugb3> qin_: thanks for the info.
[20:30] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: Were you using proprietary drivers in Fedora?
[20:30] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: Nope the nouveau driver.
[20:30] <Ugb3> Okay so i booted into ubuntu, it only use a part of the screen, i can't change the resolution and it is as slow as vista on a pentium II, i guess something is wrong.
[20:30] <zykotick9> Ugb3: nouveau is a nvidia only driver?  didn't you say you have ATI?
[20:32] <Ugb3> zykotick9: Really ? er so i guess i was using the stock one, anyway proprietary drivers has been droped for my card afaik
[20:33] <zykotick9> Ugb3: you can "/msg ubottu nouveau" for confirmation on nvidia-only.  IMO even the open ATI/AMD drivers are proprietary, as they require non-free firmware for 3D... but that's a differernt matter.  anyways, best of luck.
[20:35] <Ugb3> zykotick9: Ok, I'm not really that savvy, but I can't confirm my card worked well with acceleration on fedora.
[20:37] <Jay_> Hello, after installing ubuntu and going to boot it i get a Operating system not find
[20:37] <Jay_> found
[20:38] <aum> hi - for some strange reason, my .bashrc no longer runs when I start up a terminal, any ideas?
[20:38] <aum> change that - I meant my ~/.profile no longer runs
[20:39] <Jordan_U> Jay_: Please boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB, run boot info script, and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces.
[20:39] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Jay_
[20:39] <Guest41880>  How can I make a dual-boot on my pc ?(I have a pre-installed windows 8.1 and I want to make it for Ubuntu 14.04.)
[20:41] <Jordan_U> Guest41880: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/install-ubuntu-desktop
[20:47] <bchynds> anyone use irssi or weechat and have a problem with the client randomly shaking the text in the term window?
[20:48] <bluezone> Why isn't ffmpeg in apt-get?
[20:49] <bchynds> bluezone: there's a ppa for it
[20:49] <ikonia> bchynds: because it's dead
[20:49] <ikonia> oops
[20:49] <ikonia> bluezone: because it's dead
[20:49] <danlovesproofs> I lost SSH connectivity to a 12.04 instance. I can still ping it, and when I ssh -v I do get the following:
[20:49] <danlovesproofs> debug1: Connecting to node-name [ip.ad.dr.ess] port 22.
[20:49] <danlovesproofs> debug1: Connection established.
[20:50] <zykotick9> ikonia: i don't think that's true... avconv is a fork of ffmpeg, but i believe ffmpeg is still alive and well.
[20:50] <danlovesproofs> What might cause this, and how can I go about fixing it?
[20:50] <ikonia> zykotick9: you even get a warning message why you try to run it
[20:50] <ikonia> zykotick9: but you are of course factually correct
[20:50] <bluezone> ikonia, at this point whatever, i'd like to try it to see if it works because nothing else is working for me, unless you have a better solution i can get from the repos
[20:50] <zykotick9> ikonia: yes, i've seen the warning... but experience tells me, ffmpeg is still alive.
[20:51] <ikonia> zykotick9: %100 factually correct,
[20:51] <ikonia> bluezone: nothing else works ?? I've not even seen you ask about something that's broken
[20:52] <oosumisu> any one want to help me get frostwire installed in lubuntu?
[20:52] <zykotick9> bluezone: install libav-tools
[20:52] <oosumisu> hi
[20:53] <oosumisu> does anyone want to help me install frostwire in lubuntu?
[20:53] <ikonia> !patience oosumisu
[20:53] <ikonia> !patience| oosumisu
[20:54] <Ugb3> Ok guys, so ubuntu seems to boot with nomodesetting, why is that ?
[20:54] <oosumisu> i didnt see it so i typed it again sorry
[20:54] <Katniss> hi
[20:55] <bluezone> well i'm currently doing my typical strategy of installing everything on the face of the earth and hoping 1 thing works ^_^
[20:55] <zykotick9> Ugb3: 'cause you have ati or nvidia hardware, most likely...
[20:57] <Jordan_U> Jay_: Are you still there?
[20:58] <Ugb3> zykotick9: Maybe I'm oldschool, but years ago nomodeset meant : No hardware acceleration
[20:58] <zykotick9> Ugb3: if you install proprietary driver, you'll have 3d in Xorg (if that's what you are worried about)
[20:59] <Ugb3> zykotick9: There is no proprietray drivers anymore for my card :/
[20:59] <zykotick9> Ugb3: you're console resolution will be crappy however (but that is fixable, though probably NOT worth the effort)
[20:59] <jost> Player: thanks for your help earlier today (stalled updates)
[20:59] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: nomodeset means "no kernel mode setting". KMS is required by pretty much all of the open source drivers, and incompatible with pretty much all of the proprietary drivers.
[20:59] <zykotick9> Ugb3: install the "open" ATI driver and firmware, should still work.
[20:59] <Player> jost, No problem!  I was wondering what happened there, haha.
[20:59] <bluezone> zykotick9, i have that installed btw, what else do i need to do?
[21:00] <FischliDEV> Hi guys
[21:00] <zykotick9> bluezone: do you know have an ffmpeg command then?
[21:00] <jost> Player: turned out it was a non-RFC conforming webserver serving the PPA
[21:00] <jost> didn't play well with HTTP 1.1
[21:00] <zykotick9> bluezone: if not, try avconv it's basically the same syntax as ffmpeg
[21:01] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: Ok thanks for the info, but.. that's a vanilla install so it shouldn't be set !?
[21:02] <Ugb3> zykotick9: And mhh how should i do that ?
[21:02] <Player> jost, What'd you do to resolve it?
[21:02] <maseck> Hi, the command "pactl load-module module-loopback" doesn't give me low enough latency for what I'm doing. Any suggestions?
[21:02] <bluezone> zykotick9, Unknown input format: 'x11grab' , i'm currently using this script: http://bpaste.net/show/t5dznao0eN6n4tXxes6J/
[21:02] <zykotick9> Ugb3: _i_ have no idea, i don't touch ATI/AMD graphics with a 30 foot pole.  best of luck.
[21:03] <Ugb3> zykotick9: Ok, thank you anyway.
[21:04] <bluezone> zykotick9, i also get some preset problems i guess ill have to try aaconv
[21:04] <zykotick9> bluezone: sorry, don't know - you're trying to screen capture i take it.  i have no suggestions, sorry.
[21:04] <bluezone> ok
[21:04] <jost> Player: there is an apt-option to do handle that: Acquire::http:Pipeline-Depth. It has to be set to "0".
[21:04] <Player> Ugb3, Does hardware acceleration work when you log in?  What driver are you using?  Mesa, open source, or proprietary?
[21:04] <jost> And to be found
[21:04] <Player> jost, Interesting, the more you know.    It would be the xorg radeon driver IIRC.  Let me look it up real quick.
[21:06] <Ugb3> Ok thanks you.
[21:07] <Player> Ugb3, Correction, it's RadeonDriver and it comes on the Ubuntu CD.  It gets installed initially if it sees that you have a Radeon card, just to make sure you didn't install any additional drivers with jockey?
[21:07] <Player> Ugb3, and/or are you stuck at commandline/recovery mode?
[21:08] <Ugb3> Player: Nope, just ubuntu is slow as a slideshow and using only 9/10 of the screen, I don't know whats is jokey but i'm pretty sure I haven't installed anything.
[21:10] <Player> Ugb3, Jockey is a GUI that is supposed to pop up if it detects hardware that has official proprietary drivers.  It sounds like it's not utilizing the built-in Radeon driver for some reason (what graphics card do you have), I have a few things you could try to make sure it's not something else and if it's not I'll help you install fglrx.
[21:11] <Ugb3> Player: Thank you, nothing poped up and i have a "[AMD/ATI] RV710 [Radeon HD 4350/4550]"
[21:11] <Ugb3> Player: It's written 4550 on the card.
[21:11] <Player> Ugb3, That would be why, the 4xxx series is "legacy."
[21:12] <Player> Ugb3, yeah on Windows a lot of times my graphics card gets detected wrong
[21:12] <Ugb3> Player: So ubuntu is incompatible with my computer ?
[21:12] <Player> Ugb3, try running glxgears, with the Radeon 4550 you should get at *least* 1000FPS
[21:12] <Player> Ugb3, It's not a matter of compatibility, it's just what'll work out of the box.  In this instance your graphics hardware isn't going to work out of the box but I'll help you get the proprietary legacy drivers working.
[21:13] <Ugb3> wait a sec, starting the terminal take ages
[21:13] <Player> Ugb3, the only thing that I'm aware of that should be noted is that Source games (i.e. Team Fortress 2 or Half-Life 2) will not run on that card.
[21:13] <Ugb3> Player: Not a problem.
[21:13] <Player> Ugb3, CTRL+ALT+T
[21:14] <Ugb3> i'm installing mesa-utils
[21:14] <Player> Ugb3, yeah, if you do want to play those games you could resort to open-source drivers which from my understanding outperform the official fglrx drivers, but they're unofficial so they're not supported by AMD.
[21:14] <Player> Ugb3, alright, sorry I forgot glxgears came in mesa-utils.
[21:14] <Ugb3> Player: I just want a smooth UI and being able to play videos.
[21:15] <Player> Ugb3, then fglrx is all you'll need.
[21:15] <Ugb3> Player: Between 90 and 97 fps with glxgears.
[21:15] <Player> Ugb3, That's very VERY slow.  What processor?
[21:15] <Player> You should be getting at least a few thousand FPS with that card.
[21:15] <Ugb3> Player: AMD 3500+
[21:16] <Player> Ah, so it's using 100% software rendering.  I believe that's the issue.
[21:16] <Player> So, yes you'll need to install graphics drivers.  1 minute.
[21:16] <Player> Ugb3, is Ubuntu x86 or x86_64?
[21:16] <Ugb3> 64
[21:17] <Ugb3> I'm planing to add more ram if everything works well.
[21:17] <Jordan_U> Player: Images for both are available.
[21:17] <Player> Ugb3, Alright, and just to make sure it's a desktop, not a laptop.  Correct?
[21:17] <DrGrov> Hello hello
[21:18] <Ugb3> Player: Correct, old "hand made" desktop.
[21:18] <DrGrov> bekks: Hi there. Remember my server related questions about getting GUI on 14.04?
[21:18] <DrGrov> bekks: I've managed to sort out the RAM issue, got 2 GB of RAM so I can finally run GUI.
[21:19] <Player> Ugb3, fair.  I can link you to the driver download page but from the sounds of it it'll be faster if I give you commands to download thru terminal.
[21:19] <Ugb3> Player: Do it, i'm ssh'ing the computer.
[21:19] <omar_> ikonia, Hi.
[21:20] <Player> Ugb3, I'll send them over PM in a second, they're sort of long since it needs a "referer" argument.
[21:20] <ikonia> omar_: yes ?
[21:20] <Ugb3> Player: You can give my the page if you want.
[21:20] <DrGrov> I might ask this as a general question in order to get some advice, unless bekks is available :)
[21:20] <Ugb3> Player: do the most easy for you.
[21:20] <omar_> ikonia, You told me that I should be able to establish an infrastructure hotspot from Network Manager. But I couldn't really see how. Do you have any idea?
[21:21] <ikonia> omar_: not withouth looking, I dont have ubuntu infront of me
[21:21] <DrGrov> So, I have gotten myself a server where I can install either 13.10 64-bit or 14.04 64-bit but had issues getting a graphical UI because of only having 512 Mb of RAM. Now when that is sorted, how can I easily set up a graphical UI for 14.04 on that server?
[21:21] <omar_> ikonia, mmm, I see.
[21:22] <omar_> ikonia, Well, thanks anyways.
[21:23] <Jordan_U> DrGrov: Why do you want a GUI on a server?
[21:23] <DrGrov> Jordan_U: Because I want to work on my newly acquired domains which I merge with the server.
[21:24] <LinksEz> Does anyone know how to change volume in the control panel?
[21:24] <LinksEz> amixer set master 5- not working for me.
[21:24] <LinksEz> :(
[21:24] <Jordan_U> DrGrov: And this work requires a GUI?
[21:24] <Praxi> man sorry ikonia if you still have ideas how to get my hard drive to auto mount;  Here is my syslog when the hard drive was plugged in.  I MIGHT of captured some of the unplug too;  http://pastebin.com/AKerb1ma
[21:24] <DrGrov> Jordan_U: And also have any easy access for other things when needed.
[21:24] <Jordan_U> DrGrov: LXDE is a good choice for a light DE.
[21:24] <DrGrov> Jordan_U: Yes, at least for me it requires a GUI for easy access.
[21:25] <DrGrov> Jordan_U: Ok, I just want to somehow set it up for the server. Probably x2go-server would do the trick as it did on Debian 7 Desktop 64-bit which I have running now on the server.
[21:25] <Player> Ugb3, sorry about the wait, I went afk for a minute.  I PM'd the commands to you.  PM me back if one of them doesn't work.
[21:25] <DrGrov> But I really want to have something more "new" so to speak and more close to what I am using right here as well.
[21:27] <Ugb3> Player:  Thanks
[21:28] <Praxi> or if anyone else has ideas
[21:29] <Jordan_U> Player: Ugb3: Please keep discussion in-channel so that we can help ensure that good advice is being given.
[21:29] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: will do.
[21:29] <Player> Jordan_U, Sorry, the commands were long.  I didn't want to flood the chat room.
[21:30] <Player> I'll never understand why AMD puts such long names on everything..
[21:30] <Jordan_U> Player: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com
[21:30] <Player> Jordan_U, sorry, not thinking with Ubuntu yet.
[21:31] <Ugb3> Didn't work Player
[21:31] <Ugb3> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7475113/
[21:32] <Player> $ cat /usr/share/ati/fglrx-install.log
[21:32] <Jordan_U> Player: Ugb3: Why aren't you installing fglrx from the repositories?
[21:32] <Player> put the contents of that file on pastebin.ubuntu
[21:32] <Player> Jordan_U, The legacy drivers from the repositories are outdated and have issues.
[21:32] <Ugb3> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7475124/
[21:33] <Jordan_U> Player: Did you at least try them first?
[21:34] <Player> Jordan_U, I have a PC with a 4350 in it.  I checked about a week ago and the same issues arised.
[21:35] <Jordan_U> Player: Unless you have the same card they do, or a source suggesting that these problems are universal, I still suggest trying the drivers from the repositories first.
[21:35] <Player> Jordan_U, Ugb3, well I found out why.  AMD doesn't support the legacy cards on Linux any more and it's unable to find the headers due to what I assume is a difference between the Ubuntu release these were intended for and 14.04.
[21:36] <Player> The machine I mentioned runs 12.04 currently so that would be why, it's recommended to use open-source drivers.
[21:36] <Player> Jordan_U, It's the same series card. (Windows identifies his as the same one as mine)
[21:37] <clrtx> hi folks when loggin in with ssh i dont see directory im in only thr $ and also when replicating last used command with cursor up/down butt it doesnt seem to work
[21:37] <Ugb3> Player Jordan_U On the amd website it's stated : "Automated installer and Display Drivers for Xorg 6.9 to Xserver 1.12 and Kernel version up to 3.4"
[21:38] <Player> Ugb3, I would suggest cautiously trying $ http://www2.ati.com/drivers/legacy/amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-legacy-linux-x86.x86_64.zip --force but that *could* cause problems, give it a shot and if you can't boot to GUI run sudo apt-get purge fglrx*
[21:39] <Player> wait, mistype, $ sudo ./amd-driver-installer-catalyst-13.1-legacy-linux-x86.x86_64.run --force
[21:39] <clrtx> how to enable this ?
[21:39] <Yelu> clrtx, type "pwd" and you'll get your current directory you are in
[21:39] <Ugb3> Player: I got it.
[21:39] <clrtx> yes i know Yelu
[21:39] <clrtx> i want it to do by default
[21:39] <Yelu> clrtx, ok
[21:40] <clrtx> like other distros
[21:40] <clrtx> is tthat optional ?
[21:40] <Yelu> then you have to change at least your PS1 prompt (google?)
[21:40] <jost> I need some support configuring a server firewall with ufw. I want to allow outgoing HTTP and DNS requests, and incoming SSH sessions. Everything else should be denied. I've got that, but whenever I enable ufw, it asks me if I want to continue, since active SSH connections could be broken. If I say yes, my SSH connection terminates, but I cannot establish a new connection. After I reboot the server (deactivating ufw in the process), everthing wo
[21:40] <jost> rks fine again.
[21:40] <clrtx> ok
[21:40] <jost> Here is my config: http://pastebin.com/sEZatTxL
[21:41] <Jordan_U> Player: Ugb3: The fact that the error message explicitly says "Forcing install will disable AMD hardware acceleration", coupled with the fact that (apparently, I haven't checked myself) Ubuntu 14.04 doesn't offer to install drivers for this card, make me think that nothing good can come from running that command.
[21:41] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: Too late, i'm rebooting, will see.
[21:42] <Jordan_U> clrtx: How was this user created? It sounds like someone incorrectly set this users' shell to be /bin/sh.
[21:42] <Ugb3> Jordan_U Player Black screen after reboot, i guess i doesn't work.
[21:42] <Player> If it causes problems it's just a matter of purging the fglrx package, his machine is using 100% software rendering so it should default to that.
[21:42] <clrtx> hmm
[21:42] <Player> Ugb3, are you at a recovery prompt or no?
[21:43] <Ugb3> Oh no more black screen, i'm at login screen
[21:43] <LINUX8> How do I change the system language in Xfce
[21:43] <Player> Ugb3, Good, I got worried.  Now the next question is will Unity function properly?
[21:43] <Yelu> clrtx, type set | grep -i "shell="
[21:43] <Ugb3> Player: Nope, i got kick back to login screen.
[21:44] <Jordan_U> Yelu: clrtx: That's a really long complicated way to say "echo $SHELL".
[21:44] <xangua> LINUX8: go to your language settings and select the one you want
[21:44]  * Yelu is laughing (and nodding)
[21:44] <Player> Ugb3, My guess would be either X or kernel isn't compatible (I should've asked you to check).
[21:45] <clrtx> ok
[21:45] <Ugb3> Player: "Automated installer and Display Drivers for Xorg 6.9 to Xserver 1.12 and Kernel version up to 3.4" I guess both are more recent ?
[21:45] <zykotick9> Yelu: "echo $SHELL" is a bit easier ;)  clrtx
[21:45] <Player> Ugb3, Yeah, possibly.
[21:45] <clrtx> ok
[21:46] <Player> Ugb3, Do CTRL+ALT+F2, you should be at a tty prompt.  Log in with your user credentials and run that script again (without the --force option).  It should double as an uninstaller as well.
[21:46] <clrtx> indeed its /bin/sh
[21:46] <clrtx> darn
[21:46] <Player> Ugb3, If it doesn't then $ sudo apt-get purge fglrx-legacy
[21:46] <Jordan_U> clrtx: How was this user created?
[21:46] <clrtx> its some one elses machine
[21:46] <clrtx> i just done installing sometin for that person
[21:46] <PeterGriffin> Hello. I want to ezperment with intrusion detection systems. Is it ok if I install snort and bro on the same system?
[21:46] <clrtx> wich went fine
[21:47] <clrtx> only the annoying prompt
[21:47] <Ugb3> Player: No unistaller, did the "sudo apt-get purge fglrx-legacy"
[21:47] <Ugb3> err
[21:47] <Player> Ugb3, Okay.
[21:47] <Ugb3> impossible to fin "fglrx-legacy"
[21:47] <Jordan_U> clrtx: So before you did whatever steps to install whatever, bash was the default shell for this user?
[21:48] <clrtx> hm ok
[21:48] <Player> Well that's interesting, try running the script again with the --uninstall argument.
[21:48] <Player> @Ugb3
[21:48] <Yelu> zykotick9, not for me (my dollar key is damaged <= lousy excuse)
[21:49] <clrtx> hm how to undo and make it standard prompt
[21:49] <DrGrov> How can I check my own SSH settings as a client/server? Trying to check whether it would be possible to open up the server the other way as well, not only as a one-way direction. Having 13.10 64-bit myself.
[21:50] <Jordan_U> clrtx: Did you see my question?
[21:51] <clrtx> let me get owner of machine here Jordan_U sir
[21:51] <clrtx> one moment
[21:51] <Ugb3> Player: I did, i rebooted and got a desktop.
[21:51] <Player> Ugb3, Awesome, I assume it's still indexplicably slow, yeah?
[21:51] <Ugb3> Player: Yeah i can count the fps with my fingers.
[21:52] <Jordan_U> clrtx: "chsh" will allow you to change the login shell, but no reasonable installation process should have changed the user's default shell so you should really explain everything you did to make sure there aren't any other adverse side effects that you just haven't noticed yet.
[21:53] <Player> Ugb3, That's pretty bad, hang on I'll find the open-source driver everyone uses.
[21:54] <Ugb3> Player: And now the system tells me that "System program problem detected"
[21:54] <Neo_> holy crap
[21:54] <clrtx> there you are
[21:54] <clrtx> finally
[21:54] <clrtx> here is the owner of machine Jordan_U
[21:54] <clrtx> Neo_
[21:54] <Player> Ugb3, Not sure what could cause that, what does "more details" say?
[21:55] <clrtx> Neo_
[21:55] <clrtx> 23:52:44 <Jordan_U> : clrtx: "chsh" will allow you to change the login shell, but no reasonable installation process should have changed the user's default shell so you should really explain everything you did to make sure there aren't any other adverse side effects that you just haven't noticed yet.
[21:55] <Neo_> yes bro
[21:55] <aarobc> Okay, I've spun up 5 vms to confirm this and on 2 different bare metal installs. There is a bug in 14.04 that's causing ffmpeg to not send to standard output. 12.04 works just fine as do other debian based distros.
[21:55] <clrtx> 23:47:53 <Jordan_U> : clrtx: so before you did whatever steps to install whatever, bash was the default shell for this user?
[21:55] <clrtx> how did you do this Neo_
[21:55] <Neo_> does he have a vps?
[21:56] <clrtx> he ?
[21:56] <clrtx> who is he ?
[21:56] <Neo_> Jordan_U
[21:56] <clrtx> he is trying to help us Neo_
[21:56] <Neo_> do you use a vps
[21:56] <Drogna> aarobc: Thank you for testing, please file bug report.
[21:56] <clrtx> cause you set /bin/sh
[21:56] <Neo_> ohh
[21:56] <Jordan_U> Neo_: I don't see how that is relevant.
[21:56] <clrtx> wich isnt the standard prompt
[21:56] <Ugb3> Player: "Your system is providing 3D via software rendering rather than hardware rendering. This is a compatibility mode which should display 3D graphics properly but the performance may be very poor. If the problem you're reporting is related to graphics performance, your real question may be why X didn't use hardware acceleration for your system."
[21:56] <clrtx> and annoying to work with
[21:57] <Player> Ugb3, That's basically the issue we've been trying to fix.
[21:57] <clrtx> could you anwer Neo_
[21:57] <Jordan_U> Neo_: Before whatever clrtx recently did to install some (as yet unspecified) software, when you ssh'd did you get a bash shell or a dash shell?
[21:58] <Ugb3> Player: Xorg crashed with SIGABRT in cursorScreenDevPriv()
[21:58] <Neo_> dunno cannot remember
[21:58] <Neo_> i can look in bash history
[21:59] <clrtx> did ya look yet Neo_
[21:59] <Neo_> apt-get install gnu
[21:59] <Neo_> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[21:59] <Neo_> sudo apt-get install libtre-dev
[21:59] <Neo_> them?
[21:59] <clrtx> no
[21:59] <clrtx> the user
[22:00] <Player> Ugb3, Looking around it seems the more commonly used open-sourced drivers are RadeonDriver (the xorg driver), and Galium3D
[22:00] <Neo_> what user
[22:00] <clrtx> where did you install inspi
[22:00] <clrtx> where did you install inspi ?
[22:00] <Neo_> ohh
[22:00] <Neo_> off the net
[22:00] <Neo_> hang on
[22:00] <Neo_> i will get it
[22:00] <Jordan_U> Neo_: The last time you logged in via ssh, did you get a prompt that looked like "username@hostname:~$ " or just one that had "$ " and nothing else?
[22:00] <clrtx> no
[22:00] <clrtx> jeez
[22:00] <Ugb3> Player: Ok, and how could I install one of them ?
[22:00] <clrtx> nvm
[22:01] <clrtx> maybe you can explain to me how to do so for my general knowledge im curious to know how to change this Jordan_U
[22:01] <Juju> I have a TV capture called "Easy TV USB Hybrid Pro"... COuld someone help me to install it?
[22:01] <Juju> Please
[22:01] <Player> Ugb3, If you want to try Galium3D, run these commands: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7475238/
[22:01] <Neo_> username@hostname:~$
[22:01] <Neo_> it was
[22:02] <clrtx> its not now Neo_
[22:02] <clrtx> now its $
[22:02] <clrtx> no path no user no nothing
[22:02] <Player> $ echo $PATH ?
[22:02] <Player> $ echo $HOME ?
[22:02] <Neo_> is now $
[22:02] <Jordan_U> clrtx: OK, so it sounds like something you did changed the login shell. What were you installing and what commands did you run to do so?
[22:03] <Viking667> hey, I've just come up with a big problem.
[22:03] <clrtx> standard commands to install anope Jordan_U
[22:03] <Viking667> My computer's no longer accepting my login password.
[22:03] <clrtx> done many times
[22:03] <clrtx> all went fine
[22:03] <clrtx> it already was set that way Jordan_U
[22:03] <clrtx> the prompt
[22:04] <zykotick9> Viking667: do you mean from the GUI login?  from CTRL+ALT+F1 can you login ok?
[22:05] <Viking667> yeah. It's my ... hang on, I'll look it up.
[22:05] <Jordan_U> clrtx: So when you first logged in you recieved a "$ " prompt?
[22:05] <Ugb3> Player: I did, same as before, 5 fps and 9/10 of the screen used.
[22:05] <clrtx> yes Jordan_U
[22:05] <Player> Ugb3, The package installed and you rebooted?
[22:05] <Viking667> ouch. I found out what the problem is.
[22:06] <Ugb3> Player: Yep
[22:06] <Jordan_U> clrtx: OK. "chsh --shell /bin/bash" will fix this particular problem, though I don't like that we don't know what caused it in the first place.
[22:06] <Viking667> the problem seems to be that the bit that asks for my password isn't using dvorak keyboard for its input.
[22:06] <Player> Ugb3, MY BAD!  I gave you the wrong package, run $ sudo apt-get purge libg3dvl-mesa && sudo apt-get install mesa-vdpau-drivers
[22:06] <clrtx> yes Neo_ doesnt seem to understand Jordan_U
[22:06] <zykotick9> Jordan_U: i'd "guess" someone used useradd instead of adduser... but just a guess ;)
[22:06] <clrtx> should that cmd be run in root Jordan_U ?
[22:07] <clrtx> hmm ok zykotick9
[22:07] <Neo_> no i understand but its always been like that $ *shrugs*
[22:07] <Jordan_U> clrtx: No. It should be run as the user whose shell you want to change.
[22:07] <clrtx> ok
[22:07] <DrGrov> Just installed ubuntu-desktop on 14.10 64-bit on the server. Now I wonder, how do I get a remote desktop access to the server? Any particular program I can use to achieve it in the easiest possible way?
[22:07] <DrGrov> Or do I have to do some additional configuration on the server itself?
[22:08] <Viking667> DrGrov: if you've got a gui desktop available, then often connecting with VNC would work if you'd set the permissions up correctly.
[22:08] <Player> DrGrov, I use VNC,  but you have to configure it to run the xserver. (I've been dealing with this over the past day and a half)
[22:08] <DrGrov> Ok
[22:08] <sadbox> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MediaWiki   <- If someone already has an account would like to update that page, it doesn't work prefecttly in 14.04
[22:08] <Yelu> Jordan_U, just a thought: maybe it's just the basic/default setup for this IPS's VPS package (sh shell for ssh connections instead of bash)?
[22:09] <DrGrov> I used x2go-server on Debian 7 Desktop 64-bit and x2go-client on my end to get it to GUI.
[22:09] <sadbox> You have to "sudo a2enconf mediawiki" to enable it
[22:09] <DrGrov> Can I still set it up in the same way on the server as I did with Debian 7 ?
[22:09] <Jordan_U> Yelu: That would be a pretty silly setup for a VPS to have.
[22:09] <Viking667> gah. Stuff this.
[22:09] <Yelu> Jordan_U, did I say the opposite? ;)
[22:10] <clrtx> ive run the cmd Jordan_U
[22:10] <clrtx> it gave me promt for pass
[22:10] <clrtx> i filled in pass
[22:10] <clrtx> and nothing changed
[22:10] <Player> DrGrov, One of my biggest issues was getting the xserver and desktop environment running.  It was apparently looking for a $DISPLAY environment variable.  I had to define this in ~/.profile, the other issue was I couldn't get the DE to start up automatically.
[22:10] <DrGrov> Or does the ubuntu-desktop metapackage provide me with GUI access already itself and I just need to connect to the server via any default available 13.10 64-bit software?
[22:11] <Jordan_U> clrtx: Log out and log back in again.
[22:11] <DrGrov> Player: Okay, thanks for letting me know. That might cause a headache or two in this case. Perhaps I will have to switch back to Debian 7 Desktop then on the server.
[22:11] <clrtx> ok
[22:11] <Player> DrGrov, If you're using Xtightvnc then you set the DE to start in ~/.vnc/xstartup
[22:12] <Ugb3> Player: Ok im going that.
[22:12] <Viking667> If the Ubuntu got vino installed, then that's your VNC server.
[22:12] <clrtx> that did it Jordan_U
[22:12] <clrtx> nice indeed
[22:12] <Player> DrGrov, Well, the difference here is I was setting it up with xfce4, I think unity might work reasonably out-of-the-box.
[22:12] <clrtx> thanx apreciated
[22:12] <Ugb3> Player: It say that the most recent ones are already installed.
[22:12] <Jordan_U> clrtx: You're welcome.
[22:12] <DrGrov> Player: Okay, I will test watching some YT videos on the matter and see what visually it means, easier to get a grip of it that way in my opinion.
[22:14] <Player> DrGrov, YouTube videos need flash unless they switched 100% to the HTML5 player, either way you'd need hardware accelerated graphics which wouldn't be available on a VPS.
[22:14] <DrGrov> Player: I will just watch them on my own computer :)
[22:14] <Player> DrGrov, if you want to test anyway, my recommendation would be to download Google Chrome (not to be confused with Chromium) since it has it's own version of Flash Player.
[22:14] <Player> DrGrov, oh, haha I misunderstood then.  that works!
[22:15] <DrGrov> Player: I got myself a Intel Xeon E5-2620 at 2.0 GHz with 8GB of RAM, 1 TB drive etc etc.
[22:15] <DrGrov> So I am good :)
[22:15] <timwis> Hey guys, I've just bought a windows 8 laptop and I'd like to dual boot to Ubuntu. I'm a software dev but I've only limited experience with linux; I'd like to learn more. Should I go with 14.04 or 12.04?
[22:16] <bekks> timwis: 14.04
[22:16] <Player> timwis, 14.04, just for the sake of it being latest.
[22:16] <Viking667> definitely 14.04
[22:16] <timwis> k thx
[22:16] <Ugb3> Player: So, I should give up getting ubuntu to work on my computer ?
[22:17] <Player> Ugb3, You tried installing the mesa-vdpau-drivers package..?
[22:17] <Ugb3> Player: Yeah, I told you it says that the most recent one is already installed.
[22:18] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: If all you want is smooth Window movement, and you don't have other apps that need 3D accelleration, then you might be happy with LXDE or XFCE instead of Unity.
[22:18] <Player> Ugb3, I didn't see that, sorry!  That's interesting though, you purged libg3dvl-mesa ?
[22:18] <simone> ciao, cos'é?
[22:19] <Player> Jordan_U, With single digit frames-per-second in Unity I'm not exactly sure how much better it'd be in another DE.
[22:19] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: That's not really a solution, I will still need a minimum of acceleration to get a smooth anything.
[22:19] <Ugb3> Player: Yes i did.
[22:19] <Yelu> clrtx, just a tip: use "adduser" to have a default shelll of "/bin/bash"  - NOT "useradd": this will give the new user "/bin/sh" by default (defined in "/etc/default/useradd")
[22:20] <clrtx> thank you sir Yelu myselve i always use adduser
[22:20] <clrtx> this machine isnt mine Yelu
[22:20] <Jordan_U> !it | simone
[22:21] <Yelu> clrtx, I know, but who else wants to read it ...
[22:21] <Player> Ugb3, That's odd, maybe it installed itself and conflicted with the Xorg Radeon Driver, possibly?
[22:21] <clrtx> thanks for the info aperciated
[22:21] <clrtx> indeed Yelu
[22:21] <Ugb3> Player: I don't know, i'm the unsavvy one here haha
[22:22] <simone> tenks jordan
[22:22] <Jordan_U> Player: Ugb3: I guarantee that LXDE with just a text editor would be butter smooth with no GPU acceleration.
[22:23] <Ugb3> And 720 video Jordan_U ?
[22:23] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: Less so :)
[22:23] <Ugb3> 1080*
[22:23] <Player> Ugb3, Yeah, I understand.  Usually installing with the script from AMD's site does the trick but this is a legacy card so that's not the case unfortunately.  I think we'll try two things, removing the Gallium3D driver (after ensuring the RadeonDriver's installed) and vice versa.
[22:23] <Viking667> what in the heck's Gallium3D?
[22:23] <Player> Ugb3, I have a hunch that it might be some bad conf file but I have no idea which would it could be.
[22:23] <Viking667> I keep hearing of this.
[22:23] <Player> Viking667, Open-source AMD driver.
[22:24] <Jordan_U> Viking667: It's a reletively new framework for writing Open Source graphics drivers.
[22:24] <Ugb3> Jordan_U Player What i don't understand is that the drivers worked well with fedora
[22:24] <OerHeks> Ugb3, for your ati 4550 right?
[22:24] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: If the drivers doesn't work with lubuntu i will still not have a real full screen.
[22:25] <Ugb3> OerHeks: Yep.
[22:25] <Player> Ugb3, paste the output of $ dmesg | egrep 'drm|radeon' here, please.
[22:26] <Ugb3> Player: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7475349/
[22:26] <Player> Ugb3, Is that all?
[22:27] <Ugb3> Player: Yep
[22:27] <RyNet> How do i hide my IP when i connect to a channel
[22:28] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: What is the contents of /proc/cmdline ?
[22:28] <Player> Ugb3, $ radeon -v
[22:28] <zykotick9> !cloak | RyNet
[22:28] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.13.0-24-generic root=/dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root ro nomodeset quiet splash vt.handoff=7
[22:28] <RyNet> !cloak thanks
[22:28] <Ugb3> Player: No found.
[22:29] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: Well there's your problem. When did you add nomodeset as a kernel parameter?
[22:29] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: I had to do it during the boot on the livecd but never changed it in grub.
[22:30] <nwg> Ubuntu 14.04 - it looks like Nautilus (now Files) no longer supports tree view in the sidebar.  There is an option for tree view within the lists, however.
[22:30] <nwg> anyone figured out how to get tree view in the sidebar?
[22:30] <xangua> nwg: you might wanna try nemo, a fork of nautilus before gnome stript it down
[22:31] <dalias> i'm a new ubuntu user (at least temporarily, got it preinstalled on an asus 1015e) and have a serious mouse/touchpad problem that's clearly software-based: the pointer is "snapping" to interface elements like the buttons in the window title bars, etc. when moved near them
[22:31] <dalias> how do i disable this?
[22:32] <nwg> thought about nemo.  not sure how i feel about the cinnamon deps.
[22:32] <Player> Ugb3, try removing that perameter in GRUB.  I didn't think to check there since I assumed if you had to do that you would've removed it.
[22:33] <xangua> nwg: don't know if it has tree view but it does have double panel view, the webupd8 PPA installs it withouth cinnamon dependencies http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[22:33] <Freeder> I told you I'd be back :)
[22:33] <Player> wb
[22:33] <nwg> thx.  saw that link.
[22:33] <dalias> anyone?
[22:34] <Player> dalias, Check GNOME settings or CompizConfigSettings manager.
[22:34] <Freeder> Upgraded to 12.04, after reboot I get 'error: the symbol "grub_xputs" not found."
[22:34] <Freeder> any thoughts on how to fix?
[22:34] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: The installer copies manually added kernel parameters to the installed system, on the assumption that the user added them for a good reason (they're needed).
[22:34] <Ugb3> Player: How should i do it ? nano /proc/cmdline
[22:35] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: /etc/default/grub
[22:35] <Player> Freeder, when does this happen during boot?
[22:35] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: I didn't understand what you said.
[22:35] <Player> Freeder, Before or after the GRUB menu?
[22:35] <zykotick9> Ugb3: "sudo nano /etc/default/grub"
[22:35] <dalias> player, it happens even with startx running nothing but an xterm and twm...
[22:36] <Player> I guess there's a party everyone went to.
[22:36] <Player> For a few seconds..
[22:36] <nwg> yeah, seems like it.
[22:36] <zykotick9> Ugb3: after the edit run "sudo update-grub"
[22:36] <Ugb3> zykotick9: Thanks, just did it.
[22:36] <Freeder> Player: it happens at boot... I don't have boot options on this machine
[22:37]  * Viking667 departs
[22:37] <Player> Freeder, Right after POST, I assume?  Sounds like a misconfigured GRUB.
[22:37] <Player> Freeder, are you multi-booted?
[22:37] <Freeder> no
[22:38] <Freeder> and like I said, i haven't touched it myself, but I upgraded to 12.04 from 10.04
[22:38] <Ugb3> Player: Ok removed nomodesetting, update grub, rebooted, and now i only get a black screen.
[22:38] <Player> Freeder, Alright, well try booting into a live environment and using the boot-repair utility, or manually reinstalling/updating GRUB.
[22:38] <apols> ...
[22:38] <Ugb3> Player: And i can't even reach the machine with ssh.
[22:38] <Freeder> where do I find the boot-repair utility?
[22:39] <Player> Ugb3, Did you remove the Galium3D driver?
[22:39] <Ugb3> Player: Nope.
[22:39] <Player> Ugb3, Before you removed nomodsetting
[22:39] <Ugb3> Nope
[22:39] <Player> Freeder, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[22:39] <zykotick9> Ugb3: hold SHIFT after BIOS, to get the grub menu, then use "e" to edit the kernel line, readd "nomodeset", then ctrl+x to boot (i believe, it tells you)
[22:39] <heatherUVU> Hi! Did I download the correct version for my PC? amd64 is for a PC with more than 4GB of RAM?
[22:40] <Player> Ugb3, zykotick9 I was going to suggest removing it under recovery mode but that works as well.
[22:40] <Player> heatherUVU, not for more than 4GB of RAM specifically, for 64-bit architectures
[22:40] <heatherUVU> Player: That's what I meant. :P
[22:40] <Player> heatherUVU, But amd64 allows you to allocate 4GB of RAM.
[22:40] <heatherUVU> Player: Perfect!
[22:40] <Player> heatherUVU, In that case, yes.
[22:40] <heatherUVU> Thanks.
[22:40] <Player> No probelm.
[22:40] <Player> Problem.*
[22:41] <zykotick9> Ugb3: note, that's a one time fix.  you'd have to re-edit /etc/default/grub and readd nomodeset to make it permanent.
[22:41] <Ugb3> zykotick9: Ok thank you.
[22:41] <Player> zykotick9, Ugb3  We've been trying to get his drivers working for a while now, I think the problem now is that there's two drivers conflicting or the Xorg RadeonDriver isn't compatible with his card.
[22:41] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: Why did you add nomodeset to the LiveCD/USB's kernel parameters in the first place?
[22:42] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: I got stuck at the 5 orange dot screen.
[22:42] <Ugb3> Ok got my desktop back.
[22:42] <Player> Jordan_U, Ugb3, Thinking about it it makes more sense that it's incompatibility with RadeonDriver, if he needed nomodsetting to install in the first place.
[22:43] <DrGrov> How do I check my own SSH settings on my end in 13.10?
[22:43] <DrGrov> Want to check a bit into a few options whether it is turned on at the moment and how I can easily turn it on if needed
[22:44] <theman> hey
[22:44] <tagninja03600> yo
[22:45] <Guest12402> irc
[22:45] <Guest12402> cool
[22:45] <tagninja03600> lol
[22:46] <phoenixz> Anybody who might know how I can install teamviewer on 14.04?
[22:46] <holstein> phoenixz: i just download the .deb and install it
[22:46] <tagninja03600> for what do you need teamviewer
[22:47] <phoenixz> I have dependancy problems, specifically with libsound2
[22:47] <tagninja03600> ad for it, they should provide you with a .deb file for it
[22:47] <Guest12402> http://www.teamviewer.com/en/help/363-How-do-I-install-TeamViewer-on-my-Linux-distribution.aspx
[22:47] <holstein> phoenixz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingSoftware
[22:47] <Guest12402> read that
[22:47] <phoenixz> tagninja03600: control a remote windows desktop
[22:47] <tagninja03600> good question is if they are up to date with ubuntu
[22:47] <holstein> phoenixz: let them know its not working for you
[22:47] <tagninja03600> if there is no .dep for 14.04 then run virtualbox with a xp vm
[22:47] <tagninja03600> ^
[22:47] <phoenixz> holstein: I've done that already since long ago (teamviewer deb always has been problematic) and in these years, I have seen no update so.. always the same stupid problem :(
[22:47] <tagninja03600> ^
[22:48] <holstein> tagninja03600: .dep ?
[22:48] <tagninja03600> **.deb
[22:48] <tagninja03600> sorry
[22:48] <phoenixz> tagninja03600: installing an OS on a VM just to use teamviewer
[22:48] <phoenixz> :S
[22:48] <holstein> phoenixz: it has always just worked for me, out of the box..
[22:48] <tagninja03600> and outlock
[22:48] <Ugb3> Player: So finally my card is just incompatible ith ubuntu ?
[22:49] <Guest12402> use wine I suppose?
[22:49] <tagninja03600> you could also register in teamviewer
[22:49] <Player> Ugb3, If you purged the Galium3D, then yes it's incompatible out of the box.  It's just a matter of finding the right open-source driver (preferably one that lists the 4xxx series as supported) and installing it.
[22:49] <apb1963> teamviewer uses wine
[22:49] <tagninja03600> and run the browser software
[22:49] <holstein> teamviewer uses wine already
[22:50] <Player> Yeah, TeamViewer probably has one of the worst Linux versions of any software I've seen. haha
[22:50] <tagninja03600> nah skype
[22:50] <apb1963> nope.... nevernote
[22:50] <tagninja03600> hmmmm good point
[22:51] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: Please try booting the Ubuntu LiveCD/USB, but remove "quiet" and "splash" to hopefully see where things are going wrong. Do *not* add nomodeset.
[22:51] <apb1963> from time to time my mouse stops working... it disappears from the screen.  If I switch VT's and screens back and forth enough times, it eventually comes back.  Any ideas on this?  ubuntu 12.04
[22:52] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: Okay.
[22:52] <Jordan_U> Ugb3: By using the LiveCD/USB we can rule out all of the changes we've recently made in the installed system. We're working "clean".
[22:53] <zykotick9> Jordan_U: nomodeset = system start, without = system hangs - i bet i know where the issue is...
[22:53] <tagninja03600> should I use ufw or can I still stick with iptables?
[22:53] <holstein> tagninja03600: use what you can use "best" for your purposes
[22:53] <holstein> !firewall
[22:55] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: for some reason i can't boot on the usb stick anymore, i'm re-dding it and i will try again.
[22:57] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: Ok booting.
[22:58] <Ugb3> Jordan_U Player: drm_kms_helper: panic occured, swhitching back to text console
[22:59] <Ugb3> and the line on top of it Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception interrupt
[22:59] <bencc> I did something wrong with my .bash_profile. how can I login and fix it?
[22:59] <bencc> it won't let me log in
[23:00] <Player> Ugb3, Kernel panics, I haven't dealt with those in 2 years, and last time I did it was on OS X.
[23:00] <Ugb3> Ugb3: Ahaha yeah usually that's a funny thing...
[23:00] <Player> I don't even remember how you get additional info on kernel panics, Jordan_U do you have some insight?
[23:05] <Player_> sorry, had to reset router switch, did I miss anything Ugb3 ?
[23:05] <Ugb3> Nope Player_
[23:07] <someone235> hi, when my layout is not English most of the hotkeys doesn't work (basic hotkeys such as ctrl + c, ctrl + v etc). Anyone knows how can I fix it?
[23:08] <Praxi> what is the correct way to have a drive auto mount when it is plugged in.
[23:09] <k1l_> Praxi: that should be done by nautilus with gvfs anyway
[23:10] <Praxi> its on a server, so no gui
[23:10] <Ugb3> Jordan_U: So did the kernel panic gave you any information ?
[23:13] <Player> Ugb3, I think Jordan_U is afk.
[23:13] <Ugb3> I think so.
[23:14] <Ugb3> Maybe i should try to find 20€ to buy a nvidia card and get out of this driver problem.
[23:15] <halimo> i need to understaand ybiquity
[23:15] <halimo> ubiquity
[23:15] <halimo> any help plzz
[23:16] <Deihmos> Is there a simple way to enable the middle mouse button for scrolling web pages
[23:16] <Yelu> bencc, if you got no chance to log in, than boot with a Live CD, mount your partition and delete your .bash_...-files in your user's home directory. - copy a new .bashrc from /etc/skel/.bashrc to your home
[23:17] <Player> Ugb3, Honestly that's a really good idea.  I'm not saying that's the only way but in my experience Radeon cards never perform as well as you wish they would under Linux.
[23:17] <Yelu> bencc, better make save copies of the files
[23:18] <Ugb3> Player: I just wish something on the ubuntu there were some kind of incompatibility hardware listing, cause obviously after some hours we can't get it to work so it's kind of unsuported by ubuntu.
[23:19] <Ugb3> Thanks you for your Help Player Jordan_U and the others.
[23:19] <k1l_> halimo: what do you dont understand exactly?
[23:20] <Player> Ugb3, I concur.  That Galium3D driver should've been the solution, but there's no real way for the end-user to know because there's no supported-hardware/confirmed-to-be-compatible list.
[23:20] <Player> Same with the Xorg RadeonDriver.
[23:21] <Player> Well, at least one that's apparant.
[23:22] <Player> Ugb3, I'm looking around to see if Linux logs kernel panics anywhere, because the message that it spewed wasn't a lot of useful information unfortunately.
[23:23] <Player> Ugb3, unless there were things above and below that you didn't paste here
[23:23] <Terje_> Hello, i just set up my first ubuntu server and i am trying to come up with useful CRON jobs that i should set
[23:23] <Ugb3> Lot of things, but ca'nt past it, the machine is stuck, i can take a pickture though Player
[23:23] <Terje_> And i was wondering if you had any good suggestions ( i suppose you get this question a lot )
[23:24] <Terje_> I made a google doc to organize it :P https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AKKTMrUNNgNz71zzyPNLq4jGrX9UbXZc1qQH7j3XgJg/edit#gid=0
[23:24] <Player> Ugb3, If it has info you didn't put here, go for it.  Just make sure the text is somewhat readable.
[23:24] <k1l_> Terje_: put your backup tasks to cronjob, for example
[23:25] <Terje_> k1l_: I have already added that to my list, it's quite important
[23:25] <Ugb3> Player: ok wait a sec
[23:25] <Terje_> Anyone can edit the google doc, this way if we all contribute we will eventually have something to point others askign the same question to :)
[23:26] <Ugb3> Player: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26470057/photo%203.JPG
[23:28] <Player> Ugb3, Well it seems obvious but the issue is without a doubt with Xorg RadeonDriver
[23:28] <k1l_> Terje_: i doubt that. the usecase differs a lot from user to user.
[23:29] <Player> Ugb3, That was when starting from LiveCD/USB?
[23:29] <Ugb3> Player: yep
[23:29] <Player> Ugb3, I assume the same thing occurs when you try to boot without nomodsetting
[23:29] <Player> ?
[23:30] <Ugb3> I guess, didn't tried it without quiet and splash
[23:30] <Player> Ugb3, Try it, it probably will produce the same result but you never know.
[23:30] <Ugb3> ok
[23:30] <Player> Terje_, What is this server for?
[23:31] <hylian> after installing mate desktop, it doesn't appear in the login screen..??
[23:31] <Yelu> halimo, intro: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubiquity_%28software%29
[23:31] <Player> hylian, what distro version?
[23:32] <Terje_> Player: It's entire purpose is to run a server that i am developing
[23:32] <Player> Terje_, that serves what purpose?
[23:32] <hylian> Player: Xubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit.
[23:32] <Player> Terje_, What is the server supposed to do?
[23:32] <Ugb3> Player: It seems i'm only getting a black screen...
[23:33] <Player> hylian, does anything appear instead of the login screen?
[23:33] <Ugb3> Player: 'im giving up, it's late here and i'm gonna sleep.
[23:33] <Player> Ugb3, can you go to a tty prompt? (I may've asked this before)
[23:33] <hylian> Player: the login screen, option for openbox, xfce and xubuntu. just not mate.
[23:33] <Ugb3> Player: nothing, the computer crashes.
[23:33] <Terje_> Player: Users connect to it asking the server to download webpages for them. However there is no filetransfering involved, it will speak to clients in a protocol (because that's all that is neccessary)
[23:33] <Player> hylian, how did you install MATE?
[23:33] <Ugb3> Player: Anyway thanks for the help, i'm going to sleep, bye ;)
[23:34] <Player> Ugb3, sorry we couldn't resolve your issue :(
[23:34] <hylian> Player: i used synaptic
[23:34] <Ugb3> No prob Player
[23:34] <Player> hylian, I would try $ sudo apt-get build-dep mate
[23:35] <Player> hylian, sorry, not sure what the package for mate is called, maybe mate-desktop?
[23:35] <hylian> Player: i'll try that now, thanks!
[23:35] <hylian> Player: i got this: E: Unable to find a source package for mate
[23:36] <Player> hylian, yeah I didn't have the right package name
[23:36] <hylian> Player: it's mate-desktop
[23:36] <Player> alright, build-dep that
[23:36] <Player> hylian, $ sudo apt-get build-dep mate-desktop
[23:37] <hylian> Player: i'm doing that now, thanks again
[23:37] <Player> hylian, let me know if that does it
[23:37] <hylian> Player: cool, did that. should i log out and check it now?
[23:38] <Player> hylian, yeah, if it doesn't work then it's an issue with lightdm.  if you want to confirm that try manually starting mate from a tty prompt
[23:38] <Freeder> Player, have you used boot repair disk?
[23:38] <hylian> Player: how would I do that? do i start the x server first..??
[23:38] <Freeder> it says to delete files using the browser it pops up, but its a web browser... I dont see a way to delete files
[23:39] <Player> hylian, I believe mate has a --replace perameter, so you could log into the DE of your choice and run that (might break something but I just need to know if mate runs at all)
[23:40] <Player> oh he left, Freeder, no I haven't.  I've always booted in with a LiveCD/LiveUSB and installed it from their repository.
[23:40] <Player> hylian, I believe mate has a --replace perameter, so you could log into the DE of your choice and run that (might break something but I just need to know if mate runs at all)
[23:41] <hylian> Player: hmm, yeah, i think you are right. time to do some diggin and figure out how to make my own lightdm setting
[23:41] <Player> hylian, odd, shouldn't be hard to figure out
[23:41] <Player> hylian, I would bet that they have some sort of means to update the list automatically (like grub).
[23:42] <hylian> Player: there is a mate-autogen. trying that now
[23:42] <Player> hylian, looking around at basic install instructions for MATE it looks like you need to install a keyring, did synaptic handle that automatically?
[23:43] <Player> archive keyring*
[23:43] <Freeder> fudge
[23:43] <Freeder> and its mounted ro, so i cant even delete things
[23:43] <Freeder> this seems to be a pretty silly tool
[23:43] <hylian> Player: it was supposed too. OMGUbuntu covered it. I have never had a problem getting mate to install before, but that was through their repo.
[23:43] <_[myth> build-essentai
[23:44] <Player> hylian, alright, well if you can't get it to work try purging it and installing it from their repo.
[23:44] <hylian> Player: well autogen cmpleted, logging out again to see if that helped.
[23:44] <lorfds> i am securing a production web server
[23:44] <lorfds> and am trying to figure out whether it is kosher to be running ufw and nftables at the same time
[23:44] <lorfds> or should you only be running one of these?
[23:45] <lorfds> obviously kind of new to this
[23:45] <lorfds> just trying to figure out if these solutions are meant to be run together or not
[23:45] <Player> hylian, did that do it?
[23:46] <hylian> Player: well that didn't work. I'll do some more research, and if i cant find anything no big deal.My fave desktop is still xfce anyways.
[23:46] <Player> hylian, haha, alright, my best guess would be $ sudo gedit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[23:46] <Player> or nano if you don't have gedit or some other graphical text editor
[23:47] <hylian> Player: or in my case mousepad, but i get your gist, thanks.
[23:47] <Player> hylian, yeah I gotta learn how to generalize these things better.  assisting people with Linux is way different than Windows
[23:48] <hylian> Player: true true! :)
[23:48] <paperman> Hello all
[23:48] <ODB2> Hello paperman
[23:48] <paperman> My first day on ubuntu. I'm trying to enable file sharing with my dual boot windows, but it doesn't seem to be working.
[23:49] <paperman> I've turned off fast restart and hibernate
[23:49] <Fudge> Freeder: ?
[23:49] <paperman> still no luck
[23:49] <desolator> good day
[23:49] <ODB2> @paperman are you using Samba?
[23:49] <paperman> ODB2, that may be the last resort
[23:49] <Fudge> nvm Freeder
[23:49] <paperman> I'd rather just be able to access through home
[23:50] <fwaokda> i have a folder at that i run "ruby -v" and I get "ruby 2.1.1p76 (2014-02-24 revision 45161) [x86_64-linux]" then I go to another folder and run "ruby -v" and it acts like it's not installed.  Anyone know why this is?
[23:51] <desolator> I was wondering, is it possible to create a partition out of my windows 7 drive (does ntfs support resizing?), create a ubuntu partition to trasnfer the files and then delete the ntfs partition and enlarge my ext3?
[23:51] <ODB2> @paperman, what precisely do you mean, access through home?
[23:51] <desolator> or do I need a backup device to transfer my files
[23:51] <paperman> you know the windows partition that I can access from home
[23:52] <rhs> paperman: it's in /media
[23:52] <Player> fwaokda, is this a standalone binary or did it come in a package that you installed with dpkg or apt-get?
[23:53] <desolator> paperman, sorry I arrived here late. Are you trying to access your drive remotely?
[23:53] <fwaokda> Player, kinda new to all this so unsure, I followed a guide online to install. when i do which ruby
[23:54] <fwaokda> in the one folder i get /home/fwaokda/.rvm/rubies/ruby-2.1.1/bin/ruby
[23:54] <Player> fwaokda, it's not in /usr/bin?
[23:54] <Player> fwaokda, that might be why
[23:55] <desolator> There are many solutions that could work, for example remote desktop assistence, vnc, ftp over a vpn
[23:55] <Player> fwaokda, maybe try symlinking it into /usr/bin
[23:55] <fwaokda> nope... can i just move it into /usr/bin?
[23:55] <Player> you might have to run sudo nautilus
[23:55] <Player> sorry, gksudo nautilus
[23:55] <paperman> yes
[23:55] <paperman> guys see this - http://i.imgur.com/ujDV6zu.jpg?1
[23:56] <Player> fwaokda, if you're on Ubuntu you can make a symlink by right clicking on the object and clicking "make link."
[23:56] <Yelu> lorfds, since a server topic is concerned, it might be better asking your question in #ubuntu-server
[23:56] <fwaokda> Player, ok thanks i'll try it
[23:56] <lorfds> yelu: ok thanks…didnt realize they were different
[23:58] <Player> fwaokda, if it gives you a permission denied message when you try to move it into /usr/bin, delete the link and try doing it in gksu nautilus
[23:58] <paperman> ODB2, rhs http://i.imgur.com/ujDV6zu.jpg?1
[23:59] <ODB2> @paperman very odd


[07:04] <Donkersgoed> hi all
[07:05] <Donkersgoed> I've got a kernel panic on a recent version of 3.8.0 on raring
[07:05] <Donkersgoed> can you help me report it
[07:05] <Donkersgoed> ?
[07:41] <ppisati> moin
[07:52] <Kaloz> apw: hey. did anyone reported shutdown issues since the upgrade of the -11 kernel?
[07:52] <Kaloz> apw: both the new -11 and -12 fails to power off my notebook
[12:09] <apw> Kaloz, nothing i have heard no
[12:10] <apw> Kaloz, can you confirm that booting back to a -10 with the same userspace does poweroff (it might be an upstrart change for instance)
[12:49] <ppisati> and if you were wondering, yes, i'm fiddling with my network setup today...
[12:49] <ppisati> and so far the network is winning...
[13:24] <Kaloz> apw: will do later today
[14:08] <ogasawara> ChickenCutlass: heya, do you any sort of reproducer or test case (or bug report) to help us investigate the issues you're seeing with lowmemorykiller?
[14:08] <ogasawara> ChickenCutlass: or are you still trying to get a clear sense from you end of what's going on?
[14:09] <apw> ogasawara, didn't we turn off CONFIG_ANDROID for that just this last upload?
[14:09] <ChickenCutlass> ogasawara, still trying to see what is going on.  I think we have a regression from our old app manager to now mir
[14:09] <rtg> apw, in the distro kernel
[14:09] <apw> ahh
[14:10] <ogasawara> ChickenCutlass: ack, so maybe I'll wait to hear from you for a more defined scope of the problem before I turn my guys loose on it
[14:11] <ChickenCutlass> ogasawara, yes thanks
[14:16] <infinity> rtg: Oh hey, Tim.  Can I get you to reupload that linux-exynos5 in the kernel ppa using the master orig instead of native?
[14:17] <rtg> infinity, no problem, gimme a bit. I forgot that it was based on a real upstream tarball.
[14:23] <rsalveti> ChicagoBud: ogasawara: yeah, for now I believe the issue is on the userspace side still
[14:25] <ogasawara> rsalveti: ack.  if you discover otherwise, please do let us know and we'll be sure to try and help.
[14:25] <rsalveti> sure, thanks
[15:46] <ppisati> jsalisbury: dude, saw your email, i'll give it a look
[15:46] <jsalisbury> ppisati, great, thanks!  I wasn't sure if you had one of those boards or not.
[15:47] <ppisati> jsalisbury: i've one, and i bet one beer it's the dtb that needs to be updated
[15:48] <ppisati> jsalisbury: and since it's part of the firmware on the board, we don't that automagically everytime we install a new kernel
[15:48] <ppisati> jsalisbury: but it has to be done manually
[15:48] <jsalisbury> ppisati, heh, only one beer
[15:48] <ppisati> jsalisbury: anyhow, i'll updathe the lp bug
[15:48] <jsalisbury> ppisati, thanks, Paolo
[15:48] <ppisati> jsalisbury: dude, it's still one beer... :)
[16:00] <infinity> rtg: Oh, that made it MUCH more auditable, their delta is quite small.  Thanks.
[16:00] <rtg> infinity, anything for you :)
[16:01] <rtg> infinity, maybe you can help me figure out why the network performance is so bad on one of these calxeda nodes.
[16:01] <infinity> rtg: Careful, you don't want to replace Andy as my favourite kernel dude.
[16:01] <infinity> rtg: Only on one node?
[16:02] <rtg> huh, no danger of that. apw is way smarter then me.
[16:02] <rtg> infinity, yep, only 1 of the 4 that I have access to is slow
[16:04] <infinity> rtg: On a different uplink?  Who configured the fabric, and how?
[21:52]  * rtg -> EOW