[08:40] <apw> djs, the -<series> extension only tells you the configs used ... using -wily for the -rcN kernels was wrong
[08:42] <apw> djs, it was a bug related to new series opening
[11:31] <mcphail> Hi. Can I poke someone to request a fix be backported from upstream? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1574102
[12:38] <apw> jsalisbury, seems there is another proposed fix in the above bug ... perhaps you could do the do and make a test kernel
[12:39] <apw> djs, also ... have you tried the lts-xenial kernel on 14.04
[14:48] <djs> apw: thanks, that's a good explanation... I'll try the lts-xenial kernel and see how that goes
[14:53] <jsalisbury> djs, I'll backport the fix if lts-xenial isn't a good fix for you.
[14:57] <jsalisbury> djs, The commit mentioned in the bug is in mainline as of 4.7-rc1, so it's probably not in xenial yet, but it was cc'd to stable.  It should be in all the stable Ubuntu kernels via the regular stable update process:
[14:58] <jsalisbury> git describe --contains 4efc693
[14:58] <jsalisbury> v4.7-rc1~14^2~4
[14:58] <jsalisbury> y
[14:58] <djs> jsalisbury: thx :)
[14:58] <jsalisbury> commit 4efc6939a83c54fb3417541be48991afd0290ba3
[14:58] <jsalisbury> Author: Pavel Rojtberg<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:58] <jsalisbury> Date:   Fri May 27 16:22:25 2016 -0700
[14:58] <jsalisbury>     Input: xpad - move pending clear to the correct location
[14:58] <jsalisbury>
[14:58] <jsalisbury>     otherwise we lose ff commands: https://github.com/paroj/xpad/issues/27
[14:58] <jsalisbury>
[14:58] <jsalisbury>     Signed-off-by: Pavel Rojtberg<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:58] <jsalisbury>     Cc<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[14:58] <jsalisbury>     Signed-off-by: Dmitry Torokhov<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:47] <hallyn> jjj/win 27
[15:50] <smb> hallyn, your are a /win'er :-P
[15:50] <hallyn> aw shucks
[15:52] <apw> smb, oh dear, you clearly need a beer
[15:52] <smb> apw, It would be the time at least
[15:53] <apw> gawd, yes, where did the day go
[15:53] <Odd_Bloke> s/ea/a/
[15:53] <smb> Odd_Bloke, or that... :)
[15:54] <smb> Guess that is one of the things where the German shows...


[09:27] <rmg51> Morning
[09:35] <JonathanD> hi rmg51
[09:35] <rmg51> lo JonathanD
[09:37] <JonathanD> How's it going?
[09:38] <rmg51> ok so far
[09:38] <JonathanD> Sounds good
[09:40] <rmg51> not really
[09:41] <rmg51> it's Monday morning and I'm getting ready for work :P
[09:55] <JonathanD> How bad can it be? :p
[09:59] <rmg51> come to work with me one day and find out
[11:08] <waltman> http://24.media.tumblr.com/e3a56301db98b2d963999ca44e7bb01a/tumblr_mpjf2jKAKL1rag82vo4_400.gif # monday morning
[12:05] <teddy-dbear> Morning peoples, dogs, turkeys and everything else
[12:05] <JonathanD> hi teddy-dbear
[12:06] <teddy-dbear> freenode is slow this morning
[12:06] <teddy-dbear> I wasn't sure I was going to get on :-/
[12:07] <InHisName> Grease it up with some chocolate, teddy-dbear
[12:07] <teddy-dbear> I can't if I can't sign in :-(
[12:08] <JonathanD> seems more solid than it has been from my side, teddy-dbear
[12:08] <InHisName> You're in now
[12:10] <teddy-dbear> it took an extra 2 minutes for me to connect
[12:11] <JonathanD> teddy-dbear: odd.
[12:11] <InHisName> can fit in 2 minutes of situps.  Sitting long hours weakens the stomach muscles.
[12:11] <JonathanD> what server are you on?
[12:12] <InHisName> mars?
[12:12] <teddy-dbear> morgan.freenode.net (Chicago, IL,
[12:13] <rmg51> rajaniemi.freenode.net (Helsinki, FI, EU)
[12:13] <rmg51> I got in right away
[12:13] <rmg51> Teddy took 2 minutes longer
[12:14] <InHisName> Chicago still asleep,  Helsinki is in middle of day, wide awake !
[12:38] <InHisName> teddy-dbear: you haven't typed a thing in 30+ minutes.  Did irc slow up to over half hour now ?
[12:39] <InHisName> All that fussin' and no resultant typing.
[12:39] <rmg51> it's his nap time
[12:40] <InHisName> 2 minute delay is a mere pittance compared to napping
[12:57] <waltman> Teddy naps a lot
[13:01] <JonathanD> I believe the term is hibernates.
[13:46] <ChinnoDog> Moning
[13:46] <ChinnoDog> I mean
[13:46] <ChinnoDog> Morning
[13:46] <JonathanD> hi ChinnoDog
[13:46] <ChinnoDog> hi JonathanD
[20:22] <ChinnoDog> There I go spraying WD-40 into my eye. I hope this does not cause blindness.
[20:25] <waltman> 8
[20:25] <waltman> Why'd you go and do that?
[20:26] <ChinnoDog> It was an accident.  It was just one eye.
[20:28] <ChinnoDog> I didn't mean to lubricate my eye socket. My left eye turns around in there just fine as it is.
[20:28] <waltman> http://www.wd40company.com/files/pdf/msds-spo71638249.pdf
[20:30] <ChinnoDog> Thanks for that second link. A PDF from the manufacturer is reputable. answers.yahoo.com is... not.
[20:30] <ChinnoDog> "no significant irritation is expected"
[20:30] <ChinnoDog> I don't think I got much in there. I was wearing glasses.
[20:31] <ChinnoDog> oh..
[20:31] <ChinnoDog> waltman: you linked to a PDF for the wrong product
[20:32] <waltman> oops!
[20:33] <waltman> http://www.wd40company.com/files/pdf/msds-wd494716385.pdf
[20:35] <ChinnoDog> That is better. I rinsed the eye. Now I'll cross my fingers I don't die.
[20:40] <waltman> Chances are you won't die.
[20:40] <waltman> BTW how important is stereo vision in your job? :)
[20:40] <ChinnoDog> :-(
[20:40] <ChinnoDog> eyes++
[20:41] <waltman> it says to rinse it for 5 minutes
[20:43] <waltman> If you're really concerned, I suppose you could always go to the emergency room.
[20:47] <ChinnoDog> I think I will be ok. I feel funny from the fumes I inhaled but I will probably be fine.


[06:09] <flaccid> hey erichammond looks like vmbuilder only supports Ubuntu distro ?
[06:14] <flaccid> VMBuilder.exception.VMBuilderUserError: No such distro. Available distros: ubuntu
[06:14] <flaccid> appears to be the case
[08:52] <erichammond> flaccid: Yes, vmbuilder only supports Ubuntu right now.
[09:23] <flaccid> erichammond: i guess they probably don't have plans to support Debian?


[02:01] <Greta> Hi, all! :)
[02:16] <BluesKaj> hi Greta
[02:43] <Greta> how is everyone this evening?
[02:49] <BluesKaj> fine, but not many ppl here tonight
[03:25] <uhohuhoh> Hello, anyone around?
[03:25] <uhohuhoh> I'm in a bit of trouble...
[03:26] <ball> Yup
[03:26] <uhohuhoh> Sweet!
[03:26] <uhohuhoh> When my computer boots up, I'm getting a "error: unkown filesystem", and then a "grub rescue>" console.
[03:26] <uhohuhoh> I tried to do a bit of reading, and I understand I'm in rescue mode
[03:27] <ball> uhohuhoh: Time to re-image and reach for your backup I should think.
[03:27] <uhohuhoh> when I hit ls, to see the partitions
[03:27] <uhohuhoh> I had a Win7 partition - is that destroyed too?
[03:27] <ball> uhohuhoh: Potentially.  You had that backed up too, right?
[03:28] <uhohuhoh> No, but it's not a particularly big deal :/
[03:28] <uhohuhoh> when I hit ls
[03:28] <uhohuhoh> I do see a bunch of "msdosX" partitions, where x is a number
[03:28] <uhohuhoh> No linux partitions.
[03:28]  * ball isn't very familiar with grub, though I'm told its what we have to use with Linux these days.
[03:28] <uhohuhoh> Hmm
[03:29] <uhohuhoh> so I couldn't load any of the other partitions?
[03:29]  * ball shrugs
[03:29]  * ball <- not familiar with grub
[03:30] <uhohuhoh> Darn, alright, thanks.
[03:30] <uhohuhoh> Where else could I go apart form #ubuntu?
[03:32] <ball> uhohuhoh: This is probably as good a place as any, though in my experience #ubuntu-uk is often busier. That said, it's 03:32 there now.
[03:32] <uhohuhoh> I'll try that
[03:33] <uhohuhoh> Thanks for your help so far!
[13:29] <BluesKaj> Hiyas


[09:31] <bluefire> I made a little research about the problem/bug that prevents upgrading from 20.04 to 20.10. The error message shows that packages libnss-nis and libffi8ubuntu1 are new packages for 20.10, and was not on 20.04. For some reason the configuration fails for these packages. Is there any more info about this problem?
[10:04] <jat-clone> does apt-get -f help?
[15:08] <qwebirc38244> Hi guys, I'm trying to run an Xubuntu Live 32-bit 18.0.5 ISO on an older Pentium 4, 2.4GHz with 1GB of RAM.
[15:09] <qwebirc38244> The system has a built-in VGA video, and everything works fine until Xubunu tries to switch into the Graphical desktop (I assume it is calling `startx` or `lightdm`).
[15:10] <qwebirc38244> At that point, my monitor (which is a 1920x1080 LCD panel) gives me a notice that it can't handle the resolution or refresh rate.
[15:10] <qwebirc38244> I can usually use control-option-F3 to get to a Text-only terminal, and then can type in commands to Linux.
[15:12] <qwebirc38244> When I do, I tried to check with `xrandr`, but no matter what command I give with `xrandr`, I get the error "Can't open display".
[15:14] <qwebirc38244> I tried connecting to another 1920x1080 panel I have (both panels have a VGA input). Boot machine, everything works fine in Text mode, but the moment that Xubuntu tries to go to the desktop, then I get the error from the Monitor that it can't handle a video signal of that range.
[15:15] <qwebirc38244> To clarify, it might be that the GUI that is coming up is the "Choose Install vs. Use Live CD" screen instead of the Desktop, but either way, it looks like it is happening when Xubuntu is switching into the Xwindow system.
[15:17] <qwebirc38244> I did boot and install exactly this ISO onto another computer a few days ago, and it had no problems getting straight to the Desktop. The only difference is that the other one had a video card with a PCI slot, and defaulted to the PCI video instead of the on-motherboard video.
[15:53] <qwebirc38244> In this case I do not have an extra video card to swap in as a test, since I already gifted the previous Xubuntu system to another person. That leaves me with only the built-in motherboard VGA output.


[19:40] <magilien> could someone help me here
[19:41] <magilien> do someone there for me
[19:42] <krytarik> magilien: What do you need help with?
[19:43] <magilien> I want to install linux via usb disk on my laptop asus k571gt
[19:44] <krytarik> Are you referring to Ubuntu or one of its flavors, or some other distro?
[19:45] <magilien> I got CDLINUX install on my usb key via mode live
[19:46] <magilien> are you there ?
[19:47] <krytarik> I'll take that as a no - so it's nothing this channel nor the actual Ubuntu support channels provide help for.
[19:47] <magilien> so i got tto install ubuntu on my usb key for this work for you ?
[19:49] <magilien> are you there
[19:49] <krytarik> Well, I believe we are done here.


[00:13] <pcw> I have a boot problem; normal users have no access to soundcards and devices random daemons not starting up. can any1 help?
[00:23] <seidos> pcw, the only thing I can think of, as a starting point, is maybe check the logs in /var/log
[00:41] <pcw> seidos:where and what should i look for? I hav plowed through messages dmesg found nothing
[00:42] <seidos> pcw, you can search syslog for the word "error".  Wait, you said that random daemons are not starting up?  Which daemons?
[00:43] <pcw> apt-cacher-ng
[00:44] <seidos> never heard of it
[00:44] <pcw> some software that does caching of downloads from apt servers
[00:44] <seidos> yeah, I don't have that process running currently.  What version of ubuntu are you running?
[00:45] <pcw> lucid
[00:45] <pcw> stock kernel and 35-12 doesnot work
[00:45] <seidos> I'm running Jaunty with an updated kernel.
[00:46] <seidos> 2.6.30, the newer kernels don't work for me either.
[00:46] <pcw> at least 35-12 is finally giving me stable error
[00:46] <seidos> did your system ever work?
[00:46] <pcw> older kernels dont work for me sadly
[00:46] <pcw> yes with stock worked 80% of the time
[00:47] <Jason1> how do i find out all the packages that are currently installed?
dpkg-query -l
[00:49] <seidos> pcw, I don't know.  I'm already out of ideas.
[00:50] <pcw> seidos: 'amd64_edac: probe of 0000:00:18.2 failed with error -22'
[00:50] <pcw> seen this?
[00:50] <seidos> pcw, never
[00:50] <seidos> pcw, I'm running 32 bit on 64 bit hardware.
[00:51] <pcw> think i m gonna just give up on the ubu
[00:51] <seidos> pcw, I don't know, maybe you can try running the daemons manually
[00:51] <pcw> lucid just plain suck
[00:51] <pcw> i can but i just dont want to
[00:52] <pcw> i can fix every prob i have manually
[00:52] <seidos> perhaps a script will fix the problem then
[00:52] <pcw> yes it can
[00:53] <pcw> problem is that there seems to be other deeper problems which i do not understand and wishes to figure out
[00:53] <seidos> ubuntu isn't perfect.  lots of different hardware out there.
[00:53] <pcw> sadly intrepid was working very well
[00:53] <pcw> lucid is just a big fail
[00:53] <seidos> or maybe ubuntu is perfect, but all the proprietary hardware isn't :|
[00:54] <pcw> nope
[00:54] <pcw> i hav got 3 mach
[00:54] <pcw> all got various prob with ubu
[00:54] <seidos> GNU/Linux?
[00:54] <pcw> lucid to b exact
[00:54] <pcw> all went well with intrepid
[00:54] <pcw> ubu 9.10
[00:54] <seidos> maybe lucid isn't the right distro for you.
[00:55] <pcw> yup
[00:55] <seidos> I don't use it
[00:55] <pcw> killing now
[00:55] <pcw> falling back
[00:55] <pcw> thank you very much seidos
[00:55] <seidos> good luck pcw
[01:09] <Jason1> how can i find out what users are logged in ssh or otherwise to my server?
[01:14] <seidos> Jason1, I think the command "users" might be what you're looking for.
[01:15] <geirha> or w or who
[01:16] <seidos> ah, who, I had forgotten about that
[01:16] <seidos> w is nicest, haven't heard that before, thanks geirha
[01:18] <stlsaint> 9.10 is NOT intrepid!
[01:19] <phillw> 9.10 was Krazy Koala :p
[01:19] <phillw> Karmic :-)
[01:21] <stlsaint> JoeMaverickSett: hello
[01:21] <JoeMaverickSett> stlsaint, hello! morning! (it's morning here!) =D
[01:22] <Jason1> seidos:  thanks thats why Im in the beginners room!
[01:22] <Jason1> Can someone explain to me what the purpose is of each user when they are created having their own group?
[01:25] <chlorinator> Jason1, permissions
[01:25] <chlorinator> so you can share files with people in a group without sharing them with others o a system or network
[01:27] <stlsaint> chlorinator: why the name change?
[01:28] <chlorinator> Just got out of the pool and now I smell of chlorine
[01:28] <hobgoblin2> aye
[01:28] <hobgoblin2> opps
[01:29] <Jason1> i've just corrupted my passwd file by changing the numbers around.  Is there anyway I can tell from the prompt (wiuthout going to the passwd file) what my current userid # is?
[01:29] <chlorinator> I shocked it this morning so the chlorine level is very high, but still in the safe zone
[01:29] <chlorinator> eek
[01:30] <chlorinator> if you are the admin, then you need to have 700
[01:30] <geirha> echo $UID
[01:30] <stlsaint> Jason1: enter id
[01:30] <stlsaint> Jason1: command: id
[01:31] <stlsaint> geirha: aye, your just a command library
[01:31] <geirha> :)
[01:32] <chlorinator> I just aced my Intro to UNIX/Linux class, yet I am lost with some of the permission stuff as far as administering it.
[01:33] <stlsaint> uRock: where are you from and what class is this?
[01:34] <uRock> Las Vegas, it was the basic Intro to UNIX/Linux class
[01:34] <stlsaint> uRock: college?
[01:34] <uRock> yep
[01:34] <stlsaint> nice
[01:34] <JoeMaverickSett> stlsaint, you keep asking the questions i wanted to ask! =D
[01:34] <uRock> It isn't for my degree, but I felt I could use it
[01:35]  * JoeMaverickSett is too slow in typing compared to these IRC Pros.
[01:35] <uRock> 4 people dropped the class because they couldn't handle it
[01:35] <uRock> they said they were too used to windows
[01:36] <JoeMaverickSett> uRock, you should have a student like me! ;)
[01:36] <uRock> lol, I am still a student
[01:36] <JoeMaverickSett> hehe =D
[01:37] <uRock> the teacher is trying to get me into Linux+, but I have taken a disliking to COMPTIA
[01:37] <JoeMaverickSett> why?
[01:38] <Jason1> ok so i have seriously messed things up.  I can't save my passwd fie
[01:38] <uRock> starting the first of 2011 new certificates have to be renewed every three years
[01:38] <aveilleux> Jason1: What do you mean? Does sudo passwd fail?
[01:39] <JoeMaverickSett> oh! i am planning to take COMPITA Linux+
[01:39] <uRock> JoeMaverickSett, get certified before the end of the year, so you don't have to retake
[01:40] <uRock> I could be wrong, it may be for A+ and Network+ only
[01:41] <JoeMaverickSett> uRock, hhmm, alright, thanks for the info.
[01:42] <uRock> JoeMaverickSett, http://www.comptia.org/certifications/listed/renewal.aspx
[01:43] <uRock> I think they are only doing it for the money, not because technology is changing
[01:44] <Jason1> aveillux: sudo passwd doesn't fail but I can't save
[01:45] <aveilleux> Jason1: I guess I don't understand your problem, since you don't use a "save" command to exit passwd
[01:45] <Jason1> ok...  ctrl O doesn't work in nano
[01:45] <JoeMaverickSett> uRock, alright. taking a look at those.
[01:45] <aveilleux> Jason1: Um no.
[01:45] <aveilleux> Jason1: passwd is its own utility.
[01:46] <Jason1> ive been editing the /etc/passwd file
[01:47] <Jason1> i've messed up all the groups and passwords because I thought I could just delete the groups I didn't want to use.
[01:47] <aveilleux> Jason1: Why?
[01:47] <aveilleux> Jason1: That explains a lot.
[01:47] <Jason1> because im a dumb newbie!
[01:47] <paultag> Don't say that in here Jason1
[01:47] <aveilleux> Jason1: Putting yourself down won't get you anywhere
[01:47] <paultag> Jason1: no one is dumb. Newbie, perhaps, but this is how you learn.
[01:47] <paultag> At least you are learning what /etc/passwd does
[01:48] <JoeMaverickSett> Jason1, chill! people will help. as paultag said newbie,yes, but not dumb!
[01:48] <stlsaint> uRock: yes that is why i am getting my certs this year ;)
[01:49] <stlsaint> uRock: also it pertains to sec+ also :D
[01:49] <JoeMaverickSett> stlsaint, for which one would you be getting for?
[01:49] <stlsaint> JoeMaverickSett: all of them! :D
[01:49] <stlsaint> JoeMaverickSett: sec+, n+, A+ then continuing on...
[01:50] <stlsaint> JoeMaverickSett: $250 bucks per test :D
[01:50] <JoeMaverickSett> stlsaint, wohoho! i think you are *The Geek* =D go on mate!
[01:50] <paultag> stlsaint: dude that's a lot of cash
[01:50] <stlsaint> first i will get sec+ as it is the hardest, then n+
[01:50] <paultag> stlsaint: is the US paying for it?
[01:50] <stlsaint> paultag: im a baller! =D
[01:50] <Jason1> ok so whats the solution  now... I can't get in as root because I turned off root login in ssh
[01:50] <paultag> stlsaint: haha
[01:51] <stlsaint> paultag: i make it rain on my education!! :D
[01:51] <stlsaint> LOL
[01:51] <paultag> Jason1: haha, awesome. Try rebooting, and going in through single user mode ( recovery mode )
[01:51] <uRock> I am geting the Cisco CCNA and I think they now have a cert for PC troubleshooting and repair
[01:51] <paultag> stlsaint: hahaha
[01:51] <paultag> Jason1: that or ctrl + alt + f1 if it gets that far
[01:51]  * JoeMaverickSett salutes stlsaint!
[01:51] <aveilleux> Jason1: You don't need root in Ubuntu... sudo does it for you
[01:51] <paultag> +1 aveilleux
[01:51] <stlsaint> uRock: yep, when its all said and done i will have mcsa,mcse,then some VoIP, Cisco switch expert, amongst others
[01:52] <JoeMaverickSett> make that +2, i never knew that! =D
[01:52] <paultag> stlsaint: spend some of that on LDAP learnings
[01:52] <stlsaint> paultag: i have you for that! :D
[01:52] <paultag> stlsaint: stlsaint did I show you my new URL / Blog?
[01:52] <stlsaint> paultag: i have a vps with openldap ramping up for kerberos! :D
[01:52] <paultag> stlsaint: no way!!!
[01:52] <paultag> stlsaint: is it working yet?
[01:52] <stlsaint> paultag: yea i sent it in whub channel
[01:52] <JoeMaverickSett> are you guys like trying to get all the certs for computer related things? =D
[01:53] <stlsaint> paultag: i was reading your resume :D
[01:53] <aveilleux> I wish I could afford that many certs
[01:53] <paultag> stlsaint: whatcha think?
[01:53] <Jason1> single user mode?  Im on 10.04 LTS server
[01:53] <stlsaint> paultag: simple, niffty
[01:53] <paultag> stlsaint: thanks :)
[01:53] <uRock> The more you pay, the more you can earn
[01:53] <paultag> Jason1: Oh shoot. Well that explains it
[01:53] <stlsaint> aveilleux: well im in the army so i pay for it myself then they reimburse me ;)
[01:53] <paultag> Jason1: Can you ssh as yourself?
[01:53]  * JoeMaverickSett wished he was stlsaint! =P
[01:53] <aveilleux> stlsaint: Thhhbt
[01:53] <stlsaint> Jason1: are you using passwords or keys?
[01:53] <Jason1> when I ssh as myself a different username actually appears
[01:54] <stlsaint> aveilleux: aawww i love you too! :D
[01:54] <uRock> can Jason1 use vi to alter the passwd file?
[01:54] <paultag> Jason1: try using -l
[01:54] <aveilleux> uRock: He was using nano
[01:54] <paultag> Jason1: ssh server -l jason
[01:54] <uRock> k
[01:54] <stlsaint> uRock: thats not the issue
[01:54] <stlsaint> JoeMaverickSett: ;)
[01:55] <stlsaint> Jason1: what command are you using to ssh in?
[01:56] <JoeMaverickSett> stlsaint, how do you even study for all those? you must have lot's of space in your head! 500GB @7200RPM? =P
[01:56] <uRock> stlsaint, for the ms certs, did you take classes or just read, practice, then test?
[01:56] <Jason1> im using putty on a windows desktop to ssh in
[01:56] <stlsaint> JoeMaverickSett: hehe, naw i have the entire mcsa course that i took in college a few months back on my ipod
[01:57] <uRock> with reititon everything starts to sink in
[01:57] <stlsaint> uRock: ^^
[01:57] <Jason1> vi is way to intense for me
[01:57] <stlsaint> Jason1: what user?
[01:57] <Jason1> right now Im in as myself
[01:57]  * JoeMaverickSett got nothing to say about stlsaint!
[01:57] <Jason1> id # 1002
[01:57] <stlsaint> the army also paid for me to take the mcsa course :D
[01:57] <paultag> woo
[01:58] <uRock> gotta love VA
[01:58] <stlsaint> uRock: YEP
[01:58] <uRock> pays my bills when I am in school
[01:58] <uRock> darn summer break
[01:58] <stlsaint> Jason1: what does your prompt say for the user?
[01:58] <Jason1> i get this error if I try to make changes HELP : loglevel(0-9) reBoot Crash terminate-all-tasks(E) memory-full-oom-kill(F) kill-all-t asks(I) thaw-filesystems(J) saK show-backtrace-all-active-cpus(L) show-memory-usage(M) nice-all-RT-t asks(N) show-registers(P) show-all-timers(Q) unRaw Sync show-task-states(T) Unmount show-blocked-tas
[01:58] <paultag> dude hell yes
[01:59] <Jason1> jason@myserver
[01:59] <stlsaint> Jason1: does sudo -i command work?
[01:59] <paultag> Jason1: do you have physical access to the machine?
[01:59] <stlsaint> if anybody needs mcsa/sec+ notes let me know...i love to share from what the intructors gave me
[02:00] <Jason1> not exactly physical access but I can get into it.
[02:00] <paultag> stlsaint: thanks, I might :)
[02:00] <stlsaint> Jason1: sudo -i
[02:00] <stlsaint> Jason1: does that work?
[02:00] <paultag> Jason1: is it a virtual machine?
[02:00] <Jason1> sudo: unknown uid: 1002
[02:00] <Jason1> yes
[02:00] <paultag> haha w00t, called it
[02:01] <stlsaint> paultag: genious showoff :P
[02:01] <paultag> Jason1: OK. So, let's hack into this biznatch, as the kids today like to say
[02:01] <stlsaint> Jason1: does su work?
[02:01] <paultag> Jason1: so that HELP error is if you try and ssh in?
[02:01] <paultag> Jason1: or are you already on the box
[02:01] <paultag> Jason1: do you know the root password?
[02:01] <Jason1> im already nano on passwd
[02:01]  * stlsaint fades to background.....
[02:01] <paultag> Jason1: well that file is fucked anyway, I'm guessing
[02:01] <stlsaint> lol
[02:01] <paultag> stlsaint: naw, take point
[02:02] <Jason1> I do know the root passwd but don't i need to enable it in the sshd_config?
[02:02] <stlsaint> paultag: fsck() no
[02:02] <paultag> stlsaint: I'll watch, I need to clean the kitch :)
[02:02] <paultag> Jason1: try ctrl + x, n, sudo -
[02:02] <aveilleux> Jason1: SSH is something else. No
[02:02] <stlsaint> paultag: NO...i dont know what you were going to do
[02:02] <paultag> stlsaint: >:)
[02:02] <paultag> wait
[02:02] <paultag> Jason1: su -
[02:02] <aveilleux> Jason1: You /can/ enable root in Ubuntu, but there's really no need
[02:02] <paultag> Jason1: not sudo, sudo won't work because of the passwords
[02:02] <paultag> Jason1: that will be the root pw, not user local pw
[02:03] <paultag> Jason1: you should be able to gainroot if you know it
[02:03] <aveilleux> paultag, Jason1: to get root in Ubuntu (if sudo -i is unsuccessful) you can sudo su
[02:03] <paultag> aveilleux: sudo will fail, the sudo'ers group is blasted if it failed
[02:03] <aveilleux> paultag, Jason1: That way you don't actually enable the root account
[02:03] <paultag> aveilleux: I think he already has it enabled
[02:03] <aveilleux> paultag: D8
[02:03] <paultag> yeah
[02:03] <Jason1> im at my prompt.  What do I need to do again?    I can try that.
[02:05] <stlsaint> it maybe on a default server install
[02:05] <paultag> Jason1: It's OK. It might be blasted as well, if you lost sudoers group it should not work
[02:05] <stlsaint> Jason1: oh heck yea get in that way
[02:05] <stlsaint> oh
[02:05] <stlsaint> thats true
[02:05] <paultag> but try
[02:05] <paultag> stlsaint: could be spot on
[02:05] <Jason1> im in as root as another user!  whewww!
[02:05] <paultag> wooo!!
[02:05] <stlsaint> sweet
[02:05] <paultag> Jason1: congrats :)
[02:05] <paultag> stlsaint: you rock :)
[02:06] <Jason1> (didn't like the reinstall option)
[02:06] <paultag> stlsaint: +1 paultag point
[02:06] <paultag> Jason1: why is that?
[02:06] <stlsaint> W00T!!
[02:06] <paultag> Jason1: I've reinstalled more times then I can count :)
[02:06] <Jason1> i already have clients running on the system
[02:06] <stlsaint> pfft, i just reinstalled yesterday :D
[02:06] <paultag> Jason1: oh shucks
[02:06] <stlsaint> Jason1: aye, fix that sudoers group man
[02:06] <paultag> Jason1: are they getting to it by IP or CNAME ?
[02:06] <Jason1> im way out ahead of myself at the moment trying to catch up!
[02:07]  * stlsaint loves conky
[02:07] <Jason1> dns manager points them to their folder with virtual host
[02:07] <paultag> Jason1: you could bring up another Vitural Server, install it, then rysnc the data on the two
[02:07] <stlsaint> Jason1: can you fix your groups with this root user?
[02:07] <paultag> Jason1: then switch the CNAME for the domain, and then bring down the first after two hours or so
[02:08] <paultag> because that login file is fscked up from the looks of it
[02:08] <stlsaint> paultag: they are logged on as root right now
[02:08] <stlsaint> Jason1: right?? ^
[02:08] <aveilleux> For the room: http://www.zazzle.com/root_access_tshirt-235683678517126274  (I know the syntax is a little off, but I had to dumb it down a little)
[02:08] <drubin> Moral of the story *never* *ever* edit /etc/passwd manually.
[02:09] <paultag> _+1 aveilleux
[02:09] <paultag> +10000000 drubin
[02:09] <Jason1> i can probably fix the users im not sure.  Im using a virtual terminal at the moment, rather than actually ssh into the system
[02:09] <Jason1> lesson learned
[02:09] <paultag> Jason1: yup. That's all that counts
[02:09] <paultag> Jason1: consider a re-wipe
[02:09] <paultag> Jason1: you might have lost a lot of groups etc
[02:09] <stlsaint> aveilleux: 35 bucks for that!?!? ROBBERY!! :P
[02:10] <Jason1> well there were 3 uers I edited and 3 groups i deleted.  Can I put them back in from the prompt?
[02:10] <aveilleux> stlsaint: It's the lowest price I could set D:
[02:10] <drubin> Jason1: Learning is more important then any thing else :)
[02:10] <stlsaint> aveilleux: oh
[02:10] <paultag> drubin: did you see my new domain?
[02:10] <paultag> Jason1: not without knowing what they were
[02:10] <paultag> Jason1: you don't take notes, perchance?
[02:10] <aveilleux> stlsaint: Inverted colors is something in the range of $20
[02:10] <drubin> paultag: I even viewed it. you mades me enables javascripts ;)
[02:10] <Jason1> well I do know what they were.  They were friends login ids.
[02:10] <paultag> drubin: hahahaha
[02:10]  * uRock The best way to learn is the hard way.
[02:11] <paultag> drubin: suck it up, it's 2010
[02:11] <Jason1> true!
[02:11] <aveilleux> paultag +1
[02:11] <drubin> paultag: Hey never been rickrolled or any thing with my anti javascript policies :)
[02:11] <aveilleux> drubin: None of the rickrolls work on Opera ;)
[02:11]  * drubin views page source before enabling javascripts
[02:11] <Jason1> i know all the id numbers and the reality is I can do without all of them if we can just get mine working.  my id # is 2002
[02:12] <paultag> drubin: haha
[02:12] <drubin> omw 3:30am and next doors alarm is going off ;/
[02:13] <Jason1> so is it possible to repair the passwd file using command prompts instead of editing the file?
[02:13] <drubin> Jason1: Repair possibly not.
[02:13] <uRock> lol, I just watched my neighbor's kids kill a bouncing room and it was only up for 30 minutes
[02:14] <stlsaint> lol
[02:14] <drubin> Jason1: If you have broken your passwd file I would suggest a reinstall.
[02:14] <stlsaint> Jason1: aye
[02:14] <aveilleux> I concur with drubin and stlsaint
[02:14] <Jason1> even though Im root at the moment?
[02:14] <drubin> Jason1: unless you know *excatly* what changed
[02:15] <Jason1> I believe I do.
[02:15] <drubin> Jason1: Next leasson is backup and restores ;-p
[02:15] <uRock> Jason1, back it up before making changes in the future
[02:15] <Jason1> haha
[02:15] <aveilleux> Jason1: *.old will save your life
[02:16] <Jason1> if I can delete the two users and edit me from id 1003 to 1002 that should be all i need
[02:16] <aveilleux> Jason1: sudo cp corg.conf xorg.conf.old has saved my butt so many times
[02:16] <Jason1> (this is called denial phase)
[02:16] <uRock> lool
[02:16] <uRock> lol
[02:17] <Jason1> but seriously, your saying its not possible even though I know the users and groups i edited?
[02:17] <aveilleux> Jason1: It's possible, but very difficult
[02:17] <drubin> Jason1: the way linux internally stores UIDs might be different
[02:18] <Jason1> or if I delete all the applicable users and just create a new one for myself
[02:18] <Jason1> ?
[02:18] <Jason1> (from root)
[02:18] <drubin> Jason1: You could try that but you might have issues later on.
[02:18] <drubin> Jason1: So like we all said make backups.
[02:19] <drubin> Jason1: but yes you can try it only after you have backups :) if it doesn't work reinstall with backups
[02:19] <drubin> any how I need to get going.
[02:19] <Jason1> ok.. im ready for the lesson on backups now!
[02:20] <aveilleux> Jason1: Before doing anything to a system file, sudo cp XX XX.old
[02:20] <aveilleux> Jason1: Where XX is the name of the file
[02:20] <Jason1> ok
[02:21] <paultag> hey drubin, got a few secs?
[02:23] <paultag> drubin: I need some py help :)
[02:25] <Jason1> ok so how do I get the backups to put back later.  FTP?
[02:26] <Jason1> i can't get on
[02:26] <paultag> Jason1: use rsync with a failover server if it's production
[02:26] <aveilleux> Jason1: What? Just sudo mv XX.old XX
[02:26] <aveilleux> That'll overwite the broken copy with the backup
[02:26] <aveilleux> Just leave it in the same dir
[02:27] <Jason1> what is rsync?
[02:27] <paultag> Jason1: it will let you sync two directories over the network
[02:27] <paultag> Jason1: so sync mirror two installs, and then switch over the DNS entry
[02:28] <paultag> Jason1: I do this all the time in the datacenter I manage
[02:28] <paultag> old hardware upgrades etc
[02:29] <Jason1> ah..  ok..  RIght now I only have the one server and it is taking up everything on the virtual host
[02:29] <paultag> Jason1: but it's virtual
[02:29] <paultag> add another vmachine
[02:29] <paultag> or do you not have ownership of the server?
[02:30] <Jason1> im using linnode
[02:31] <Jason1> I can reduce the size of the current install and then create a second if thats what your getting at, since right now it fills up all of my alloted space
[02:31] <paultag> Ah, no, can't do that with linode
[02:32] <paultag> Jason1: might be able to do that
[02:32] <pleia2> can only have one running at a time, so you'd have to sync via an intermediary
[02:33] <paultag> +1 pleia2
[02:33] <paultag> and that also entails downtime
[02:34] <Jason1> so i need to setup 3?
[02:35] <Jason1> my brain is fried at this point!
[02:36] <stlsaint> Jason1: do you have another machine you can use?
[02:36] <stlsaint> Jason1: to maybe use for syncing?
[02:38] <Jason1> when you say machine what do you mean?
[02:38] <stlsaint> computer
[02:38] <Jason1> im sitting at my desktop. Its a windows platform.  there is the server itself which is on linnode
[02:38] <stlsaint> hrm
[02:38] <stlsaint> shucks
[02:39] <Jason1> linnode will allow me to reduce the size of the current install.  I could cut it in half.
[02:39] <Jason1> then I would be able to setup a second install.  I just don't know how to get the files back and forth between the two.
[02:40] <stlsaint> Jason1: can you ssh into that server using a form of gui?
[02:41] <Jason1> the second (to be the newly created one)???
[02:41] <stlsaint> no,
[02:41] <stlsaint> Jason1: like in linux you can connect to the server using nautilus
[02:42] <stlsaint> Jason1: is there something in windows that you have to do that?
[02:42] <Jason1> yes its called puTTY.  I use that to SSH into the server
[02:42] <Jason1> that opens up my shell
[02:42] <paultag> try WinSCP
[02:42] <Jason1> i have winSCP as well for ftp
[02:43] <paultag> Jason1: that's SFTP
[02:43] <paultag> Jason1: it's FTP over SSH
[02:43] <Jason1> ok
[02:43] <paultag> ( a.k.a. scp )
[02:43] <paultag> stlsaint: he can get data thru the pipe :)
[02:43] <Jason1> winSCP doesn't work because I can't login
[02:43] <stlsaint> Jason1: pull that data from your sever to your windows system
[02:44] <stlsaint> Jason1: reformat then put back
[02:44] <paultag> Jason1: if you can putty you should be able to login
[02:44] <paultag> Jason1: it uses ssh to xfer, so if you can ssh in, you can scp over
[02:44] <Jason1> i can't get into the server right now with winSCP
[02:44] <paultag> Jason1: how do you get in via PuTTY ?
[02:44] <stlsaint> Jason1: you can winscp but you can ssh??
[02:45] <Jason1> i can ssh but not winscp
[02:45] <stlsaint> :|
[02:45] <paultag> Jason1: just *try* for me, I know how this works on a low level
[02:45] <Jason1> oh wait..  actually..  Ive nbever closed my session because I didn't want that to be gameover
[02:45] <stlsaint> Jason1: yes please try it
[02:45] <Jason1> server refuses key
[02:46] <stlsaint> Jason1: your going through same port correct?
[02:46] <paultag> Jason1: does it not fall back on pw auth?
[02:46] <Jason1> i have it turned off in sshd_config
[02:46] <paultag> Jason1: swap that over while you are root
[02:46] <stlsaint> Jason1: +1 on paultag's suggestion since you are having issues with keys atm
[02:49] <JoeMaverickSett> QUESTION: "if i want to apply for Seeking Mentor in here:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuYouth/Structure. i just go edit the page, right?"
[02:50] <paultag> Jason1: I don't know why you are asking in here :)
[02:50] <paultag> not you Jason1
[02:50] <paultag> Jason1: you have a real issue
[02:50] <paultag> you JoeMaverickSett :)
[02:50] <paultag> darn tab complete
[02:50] <JoeMaverickSett> paultag, failed! =D
[02:51] <JoeMaverickSett> it seems to be the only way anyways! :)
[02:51] <paultag> JoeMaverickSett: I'd ask in #Ubuntu-youth
[02:51] <paultag> JoeMaverickSett: no one in here is qualified to answer that besides zkriesse
[02:51] <paultag> JoeMaverickSett: so I'd ask him in that team's channel
[02:52] <JoeMaverickSett> alright paultag. won't disturb you no more.
[02:52] <JoeMaverickSett> :D
[02:52] <paultag> JoeMaverickSett: you're not disturbing, just trying to route you somewhere to get an answer
[02:52]  * JoeMaverickSett goes off to #ubuntu-youth
[02:52] <JoeMaverickSett> paultag, hehe! i've re-routed! ;)
[02:52] <paultag> :)
[02:53] <Jason1> what comnand will let me read a file without editing?
[02:53] <stlsaint> Jason1: cat
[02:53] <paultag> Jason1: cat
[02:53] <paultag> <3 stlsaint
[02:53] <Jason1> thx
[02:53] <stlsaint> paultag: cat <file>
[02:53] <paultag> Jason1: if it's long, less
[02:53] <paultag> stlsaint: less <file>
[02:53] <paultag> stlsaint: boom. headshot
[02:53] <stlsaint> fsck()
[02:53] <uRock> or more
[02:53] <uRock> "more"
[02:53] <paultag> uRock: less is more
[02:53] <paultag> uRock: :P
[02:53] <uRock> si
[02:54] <paultag> uRock: if it's long you can't go back up with more, so that always gives me sadsies
[02:54] <Jason1> whatd the modifier to view it page by page?
[02:54] <uRock> does less do the same thing?
[02:54] <paultag> Jason1: | less, or less <file>
[02:55] <stlsaint> brb
[02:59]  * uRock Going where I have never gone before. Installing Arch in VBox.
[03:00] <paultag> uRock: those arch guys are amazing
[03:00] <paultag> uRock: They have my utmost respect
[03:00] <Jason1> permit root login is YES password authentication is yes
[03:00] <paultag> uRock: they've done some really cool stuff with the distro, and it's cool seeing what they come up with
[03:00] <Jason1> I can't get in though via winSCP with my password
[03:00] <Jason1> (for root)
[03:00] <paultag> Jason1: do you know the root password?
[03:01] <Jason1> yes
[03:01] <paultag> Jason1: did you set it manually?
[03:01] <Jason1> yes
[03:01] <uRock> I am sure to break it, lol
[03:01] <paultag> OK
[03:01] <paultag> Jason1: try PuTTY with root
[03:01] <paultag> Jason1: does that work?
[03:01] <paultag> Jason1: avoid using a PK
[03:01] <paultag> uRock: we all do at one point or another
[03:01] <Jason1> im in without the password because of the key..
[03:02] <paultag> uRock: as my 7th grade english teacher told me "Fail with dignity"
[03:02] <paultag> Jason1: Try removing the key
[03:02] <paultag> Jason1: Just try a raw ssh login
[03:02] <paultag> Jason1: if that does not work that needs to be addressed
[03:03] <paultag> uRock: I tried installing arch the other day
[03:03] <paultag> uRock: the kernel is the same as 10.04's, bad news for paultag :(
[03:03] <Jason1> access denied even though im entering the correct passwrod
[03:03] <paultag> Jason1: then you have a bigger issue to address ;)
[03:04] <uRock> that bites
[03:04] <uRock> I haven't had any problems with it, yet
[03:04] <paultag> Jason1: can you still login as you?
[03:04] <paultag> Jason1: if so, either the root pw is wrong or remote logins are disabled
[03:05] <Jason1> where is the setting for remote login?
[03:06] <paultag> Jason1: in the global ssh config
[03:06] <paultag>  /etc/ssh/ssh_config I think
[03:06] <paultag> or something
[03:06] <paultag> might be PAM
[03:06] <paultag> I've never had to enable root ( for good reason )
[03:07] <IdleOne> why would anyone want to enable root
[03:07] <IdleOne> root is over rated
[03:07] <paultag> IdleOne: +1
[03:07] <paultag> IdleOne: I'm with you, friend
[03:07] <paultag> IdleOne: also, how are ya?
[03:08] <IdleOne> Doing ok here and you ?
[03:08] <paultag> IdleOne: I'm well. Got my new blog and domain all set :D
[03:08] <IdleOne> cool
[03:10]  * IdleOne is watching Rocky
[03:11] <paultag> haha wich one IdleOne ?
[03:11] <IdleOne> the first one
[03:11] <Jason1> looked and didn't see anything I can winSCP with a key at the moment into root
[03:11] <paultag> Jason1: make a tarball with the stuff you need to backup
[03:12] <IdleOne> paultag: I have seen it a gazabaillionmillion times
[03:12] <paultag> Jason1: then chown it to the user you can scp with
[03:12] <paultag> Jason1: then send dump the archive back
[03:12] <paultag> IdleOne: haha aye
[03:12] <IdleOne> you know what I haven't seen in a long time, Scarface!
[03:12] <paultag> Hahaha, aye!!!!
[03:14] <paultag> Jason1: oh, then you can copy over. Get to backing up!
[03:14] <paultag> seidos: hahaha, oh?
[03:14] <paultag> IdleOne: Too bad :(
[03:14] <Jason1> already started
[03:14] <IdleOne> seidos has me curious to this answer
[03:14] <seidos> answer: because life can suck.
[03:15] <IdleOne> haha
[03:15] <seidos> but that just made me ask "why so happy?"
[03:15] <seidos> that one was a little trickier.  Especially for the Joker.  You can't say because life is good.  I think the answer is because "boy's don't cry"
[03:15] <Jason1> id like to make my srv file a tarball.  whats the best way to do that?
[03:15] <IdleOne> If someone with a face like the Joker asks you "Why so serious?" the answer should be "Wouldn't you be serious if someone like you asked you that?"
[03:16] <seidos> Jason1,  ermmm tar -xvvf file.tar file.srv
[03:16] <paultag> Jason1: tar -zcvf
[03:16] <paultag> +1 seidos
[03:16] <seidos> ah, dang it, I'm wrong
[03:16] <seidos> I did x, that's extract
[03:17] <seidos> Jason1, don't listen to me, listen to paultag,  or better yet, man tar
[03:17] <seidos> I always have to type man tar because i forget the syntax
[03:17] <seidos> +2 paultag
[03:17] <paultag> :)
[03:17] <seidos> IdleOne, good point.  Especially if he's carrying that full auto glock or whatever it was.
[03:18] <duanedesign> seidos: i have a function you can add to your bashrc where you just type ex to extract archives
[03:19] <seidos> duanedesign, do you use it?
[03:19] <stlsaint> duanedesign: of course you would! pffty
[03:19] <stlsaint> duanedesign: whats the difference between your function and a alias?
[03:20] <duanedesign> http://paste.ubuntu.com/471687/
[03:20] <duanedesign> just add that to your .bashrc
[03:21] <IdleOne> alias ex='tar -xvvf'
[03:21] <IdleOne> then ex file.tar in terminal
[03:21] <stlsaint> IdleOne: your gonna need a bit more than that my friend :D
[03:21] <IdleOne> probably
[03:22] <stlsaint> hehe, its cool
[03:22] <duanedesign> IdleOne: yes that would work. But the function determines the extension then uses the appropriatte command
[03:22] <Jason1> im at the top level.  I want to tar the whole srv file
[03:22] <duanedesign> pretty neat
[03:22] <Jason1>   tar -zcvf /srv
[03:22] <Jason1> isn't working
[03:22] <stlsaint> Jason1: cause your trying to tar a dirctory
[03:22] <IdleOne> Jason1: full path
[03:22] <IdleOne> never mind me
[03:22] <IdleOne> I know nothing about all this computer stuffs
[03:23] <seidos> don't you also need to specify the name of the tar file?
[03:23] <IdleOne> :)
[03:23] <stlsaint> yes
[03:24] <stlsaint> Jason1: the syntax is: tar -zcvf file.tar file.<whatever>
[03:24] <Jason1> but it can only be a file, not a directory?
[03:24] <stlsaint> Jason1: as suggested earlier you should read the tar manual
[03:26] <IdleOne> duanedesign: thanks for the ex function
[03:28] <Jason1> yes I have been looking at it.  Im still trying to process them as they have been difficult for me to follow.
[03:28] <stlsaint> IdleOne: where you from?
[03:28] <IdleOne> Montreal Canada
[03:28] <stlsaint> oh ok
[03:28] <seidos> Jason1, there are some syntax examples near the end of the file.
[03:29] <paultag> IdleOne: I've been there once
[03:29] <duanedesign> IdleOne: it is one of my favorites.
[03:29] <IdleOne> for UDS
[03:29] <IdleOne> paultag: ^^
[03:29] <paultag> IdleOne: nope :) -- tourist
[03:29] <IdleOne> ahh cool
[03:29] <paultag> IdleOne: wish it was for UDS :)
[03:29] <Jason1> there are.  but  it doesn't actually say anywhere that you can't use it on a folder
[03:30] <stlsaint> Jason1: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-compress-a-whole-linux-or-unix-directory/
[03:30] <IdleOne> paultag: 11.10 is going to be in Belgium right?
[03:30] <stlsaint> Jason1: that help?
[03:30] <Jason1> well that was easy  i had the folder and name swapped!
[03:31] <paultag> IdleOne: this past one 10.04 was belgium, I thought
[03:31] <IdleOne> hmm
[03:31] <stlsaint> What average user can afford to just up and go way the hell to belgium!!?!!?!?
[03:31] <stlsaint> makes me mad!!
[03:31] <paultag> IdleOne: yeah -- brussels
[03:31] <IdleOne> I am going to try to go to that one
[03:31] <paultag> IdleOne: Hurm, might need a time machine
[03:32] <paultag> IdleOne: 11.10 I don't think is planned yet, but I could be wrong
[03:32] <paultag> IdleOne: 10.10 is in FL
[03:32] <paultag> ( USA )
[03:32] <IdleOne> oh so 11.04 is Belgium
[03:32] <stlsaint> W00T!!
[03:32] <IdleOne> I can't go to Florida
[03:32] <IdleOne> :(
[03:33] <paultag> IdleOne: is it?
[03:33] <paultag> IdleOne: why not?
[03:33] <stlsaint> IdleOne: and i cant go to belgium so hhmmm! :P
[03:33] <IdleOne> last time I was there I beat up Mickey and now I am not welcome
[03:33] <IdleOne> lol
[03:33] <paultag> IdleOne: I can tell I already like you
[03:33] <IdleOne> haha
[03:34] <IdleOne> actually it's because of immigration reasons
[03:34] <IdleOne> which I am working on getting fixed
[03:34] <paultag> Ah
[03:34] <stlsaint> IdleOne: can you go to arizona?
[03:34] <IdleOne> but yeah FLA is out
[03:34] <paultag> HahahA!!
[03:34] <stlsaint> paultag: ;)
[03:34] <IdleOne> stlsaint: I know a few ppl who can get me into Arizona
[03:34] <paultag> stlsaint: darn rednecks
[03:34] <IdleOne> you got 10G?
[03:34] <paultag> stlsaint: I feel bad you have to live with 'em
[03:35] <stlsaint> LOL...nope your on your own buddy!
[03:35] <IdleOne> haha
[03:35] <stlsaint> paultag: hehe
[03:35] <IdleOne> Well in any case, Florida is out for now
[03:35] <paultag> aye
[03:36] <IdleOne> Belgium I think would be a blast. I speak French fluently
[03:36] <paultag> Oh wow
[03:36] <paultag> I want one in Germany
[03:36] <paultag> IdleOne: of course, Canada, duh
[03:36]  * paultag dur
[03:36] <IdleOne> Majority of Canadians don't speak French
[03:36] <paultag> That shocks me
[03:37] <paultag> French-Canadian, it's what I think of when I think Canada
[03:37] <paultag> that and "Eh?"
[03:37] <IdleOne> Quebec and a few small towns near Winnipeg, New Brunswick there are pockets of French speakers also
[03:38] <paultag> Anywho, I wana go to Germany for a UDS
[03:38] <paultag> I'd love to sharpen up on my German
[03:39] <IdleOne> never liked the German language
[03:40] <IdleOne> to rough
[03:40] <paultag> Bah
[03:40]  * IdleOne speaks French, Italian and Spanish
[03:40] <paultag> English is a Germanic language
[03:40]  * IdleOne is a lover :P
[03:40] <paultag> German is a romantic language
[03:40] <IdleOne> hahaha
[03:40] <paultag> ICHKK LIEBIE DICCHHHH
[03:41] <IdleOne> remember the CoC!
[03:41] <IdleOne> lol
[03:41] <paultag> Hahaha, That means "I love you"
[03:41] <paultag> spelled how it sounds
[03:42] <paultag> IdleOne: ^
[03:42] <IdleOne> German is not known for it's romance
[03:42] <paultag> you've clearly never seen a picture of a German chick
[03:42] <paultag> :P
[03:43] <paultag> *cough* anyway
[03:43] <IdleOne> I didn't say nothing about the people in germany
[03:43] <IdleOne> just the language
[03:43] <IdleOne> hehe
[03:44] <IdleOne> Rocky and Apollo are about to beat each other up
[03:44]  * IdleOne will be back :P
[03:44] <paultag> Hells yes
[03:48] <stlsaint> hey any of you smart people know why when a broswer window is opened it also opens up 4 TCP connections?
[03:49] <zkriesse> Nada...
[03:49] <zkriesse> what browser?
[03:49] <stlsaint> chrome
[03:49] <paultag> yeah stlsaint
[03:49] <zkriesse> Hmm
[03:49] <paultag> stlsaint: it's called pipelining
[03:49] <zkriesse> paultag: What's that?
[03:49] <paultag> stlsaint: it does more then one request on more then one session to load things in parralell
[03:50] <stlsaint> im not following ya
[03:50]  * stlsaint is gonna take b12 injections to lower my headaches! :D
[03:50] <paultag> zkriesse: OK, so network transmission protocols cap how much you can throw down one pipe. Since you can't send more through the pipe, get more pipes
[03:50] <paultag> stlsaint: :)
[03:50] <zkriesse> Ok
[03:50] <zkriesse> So it'll open more pipes
[03:51] <paultag> zkriesse: so when you load page.html, and it has img1, img2 and img3
[03:51] <seidos> so pipelining is done to increase bandwidth?
[03:51] <paultag> zkriesse: it will load page.html, and load images on different pipes
[03:51] <paultag> seidos: through-put
[03:51] <stlsaint> ooooohhhhhh
[03:51]  * seidos looks up through-put
[03:51] <paultag> seidos: throughput is how it's usually spelled
[03:51] <stlsaint> yea when i load google it opens 4 connections
[03:52] <paultag> seidos: but it looks scarry, so I break it apart
[03:52] <paultag> seidos: makes sense :)
[03:52] <paultag> seidos: it also keeps them active via a persistant HTML protocol
[03:52] <paultag> you stlsaint
[03:52] <paultag> not you seidos sorry
[03:52] <paultag> stlsaint: so that it does not have to establish every time it does an AJAX call
[03:52] <paultag> ( which is most of the time with google )
[03:52] <seidos> ah, essentially synonymous to digital bandwidth consumption
[03:53] <paultag> seidos: yeah, it's how well you can use the bandwidth
[03:53] <stlsaint> paultag: crap, facebook opens 15 connections
[03:53] <paultag> stlsaint: yup, sounds right
[03:53] <stlsaint> paultag: i gotcha, thanks for that quick lesson, i can stop bugging out now :D
[03:53] <paultag> stlsaint: sure thing
[03:53] <stlsaint> l8er folks
[03:53] <paultag> l8r sk8r
[03:54] <robbmunson> facebook opens up 15 connections? that doesnt sound right......
[03:54] <robbmunson> oh well....
[03:55] <seidos> does firefox use pipelining?
[03:55] <paultag> robbmunson: yeah it does :)
[03:55] <paultag> seidos: yeah
[03:55] <paultag> seidos: check in about:config for under the hood
[03:55] <paultag> robbmunson: it has to do about that much activly for AJAX
[03:55] <paultag> robbmunson: and one pipe per persistant ajax wait
[03:55] <paultag> sounds good to me
[03:56] <seidos> it looks like pipelining is set to false
[03:56] <paultag> seidos: humm, it might just enable pipes for JS only and not do that with image loading
[03:56] <paultag> seidos: set it to true and cap it at 15 or so
[03:57] <seidos> all right, done
[03:57] <paultag> :)
[03:58] <seidos> man, I should've majored in computer science, there is no way I'm going to learn all this stuff
[03:58] <zkriesse> hello nomnex
[03:58] <IdleOne> paultag: turns out Rocky lost the fight
[03:58] <paultag> IdleOne: haha, oh noes
[03:58] <paultag> seidos: :P
[03:59] <IdleOne> Rocky 2 is next, will see what happens :)
[03:59] <paultag> Report back!
[04:00] <IdleOne> will do. I might have to blog about this
[04:12] <Jason1> paultag: thanks for all your help!
[04:12] <paultag> Jason1: sure :)
[04:12] <paultag> Jason1: best of luck restoring!
[04:12] <Jason1> Im uploading back to a clean server now
[04:13] <paultag> :D
[04:19] <Jason1> does this look correct??   tar -xvf /srv srv.tar.gz
[04:19] <Jason1> that will unpack the file into the /srv directory?
[04:19] <bodhizazen> Jason1, you need -C to specify a directory to unpack
[04:20] <Jason1> tar -xvfC /srv srv.tar.gz  ?
[04:20] <bodhizazen> tar xvf -C /srv srv.tar.gz
[04:20] <paultag> Jason1: tar -zxvf -C /srv ..
[04:20] <paultag> hey bodhizazen
[04:20] <bodhizazen> yes, see man tar
[04:20] <bodhizazen> paultag, you are too slow
[04:21] <bodhizazen> Just finished dinner - Thai food - Pumpkin and coconut curry w/ tofu - yum yum
[04:21] <paultag> bodhizazen: woo! :)
[04:21] <bodhizazen> Tomorrow - Skiing
[04:21] <Jason1> what part of the world?
[04:22] <bodhizazen> Mt Hood - Oregon
[04:22] <bodhizazen> This internet connection sucks
[04:23] <bodhizazen> http://www.timberlinelodge.com/
[04:23] <bodhizazen> wb pedro3005
[04:23] <pedro3005> hello bodhizazen
[04:23] <robbmunson> wellllll hellooooooooooo there bodhi =D
[04:25] <Jason1> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now  ???
[04:25] <paultag> Jason1: tar -zxvf -C /srv/ /path/to/archive.tar.gz
[04:26] <paultag> Jason1: what's the error?
[04:26] <seidos> Jason1, are you trying to extract a file or create one?
[04:26] <Jason1> extract
[04:26] <paultag> seidos: his old file from the broked server
[04:27] <seidos> paultag, so -C /srv/ extracts it to that directory?
[04:27] <paultag> seidos: yessir
[04:27] <bodhizazen> seidos, yes, but ...
[04:27] <paultag> Jason1: might need a sudo or change order
[04:27] <bodhizazen> you may need to use sudo
[04:27] <paultag> Jason1: or mk the dir
[04:27] <paultag> bodhizazen: too slow :)
[04:27] <bodhizazen> you could extract it in $HOME and move it
[04:27] <paultag> that's what i'd do
[04:31] <Jason1> tar: -C: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[04:31] <Jason1> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[04:31] <Jason1> tar: Child returned status 2
[04:31] <Jason1> tar: srvfile.tar.gz: Not found in archive
[04:31] <Jason1> tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[04:32] <paultag> Jason1: sudo mkdir /srv
[04:32] <paultag> Jason1: and re-run
[04:32] <Jason1> the folder /srv already exists
[04:33] <paultag> Jason1: sudo tar -zxvf .....
[04:33] <paultag> Jason1: try that. run sudo !!
[04:34] <Jason1> im logged in as root
[04:35] <paultag> Jason1: what command did you run?
[04:35] <seidos> when I was logged in as a root, back in the day, my friends here on irc told me that was a bad idea.
[04:35] <paultag> seidos: +1
[04:35] <paultag> still is
[04:35] <Jason1> funny..  let me logout and turn off root...  brb
[04:36] <bodhizazen> Jason1, cd into the directory that has the tar ball or use the full path
[04:36] <bodhizazen> seidos, logging into X as root is not good, su - , sudo -i , or logging in to a console or ssh is "OK"
[04:37] <Jason1> user add jason
[04:37] <Jason1> (no space)
[04:38] <bodhizazen> So I have been on a health kick - lost 30 Lbs , hiked 6 miles + 1,000 ft elevation in 2 hours
[04:38] <seidos> bodhizazen, that's what I hear.  I never really got into why, figured it was just easier to take everyone's word for it.
[04:38] <paultag> fsck() darn bodhizazen. I need to work out
[04:38] <paultag> bodhizazen: I just hit 220 @ 6'. I'm pissed.
[04:38] <paultag> This is the worst i've been in a long time
[04:38] <seidos> I've been doing jumping jacks, push ups, hindu squats.  I walked a bunch for the jog I briefly had, but not 6 miles, that's crazy.  I probably walked two, but I'm not sure, I wasn't counting.
[04:39] <bodhizazen> My blood pressure is way down and my resting pulse is 55
[04:39] <robbmunson> ill be back later, gotta go straighten out the crooked boards that are my kids.....
[04:39] <seidos> robbmunson, good luck
[04:39] <robbmunson> seidos: thanks, I will need it....LOL
[04:40] <seidos> my resting pulse is 80.  I've never seen it less than that.
[04:41] <seidos> I'm not sure how exercise reduces resting pulse, but I hear that it does.
[04:41] <seidos> I heard Lance Armstrong's resting pulse was like 40 or something
[04:42] <paultag> Yeah and Michal Jackson's is 0
[04:42] <paultag> seems like lower could cause issues
[04:42] <seidos> may he rest in peace
[04:43] <bodhizazen> LOL paultag
[04:43] <seidos> paultag, yeah, I think you have a point.  There is probably an optimal range.
[04:43]  * seidos didn't think of that
[04:43] <robbmunson> .......back.......(when I said later, i didnt mean like hours, lol.)
[04:43] <paultag> :)
[04:43] <seidos> robbmunson, wb
[04:44] <seidos> heh, maybe the optimal range is 0, I hate to be overly realistic but that's where everyone seems to be headed
[04:44] <robbmunson> the sudden shock factor of a door flinging open and daddy sayin "you kids better shut up and get to bed" does the trick.....they were in the next room over.
[04:44] <seidos> s/range/value
[04:45] <robbmunson> seidos: I agree....thats got to be it.
[04:45] <paultag> seidos: hum hahaha
[04:45] <Jason1> where do I put my public key I just generated?
[04:45] <paultag> Jason1: upload to a keyserver
[04:45] <robbmunson> Jason1: upload it to a.....^
[04:45] <bodhizazen> Jason1, public key goes on server
[04:45] <paultag> robbmunson: continue :)
[04:45] <Jason1> i know.. which folder?
[04:45] <paultag> I need to do some work right quick
[04:45] <paultag>  /bbl
[04:46] <TJ__> Hi all
[04:46] <bodhizazen> Jason1, ssh-copy-id
[04:46] <bodhizazen> http://linux.die.net/man/1/ssh-copy-id
[04:46] <bodhizazen> 'lo tdn
[04:46]  * bodhizazen tab_fail
[04:47] <Jason1> im on a windows machine using putty to get to my server
[04:47] <bodhizazen> 'lo TJ__
[04:47] <bodhizazen> Oh, copy the key to ~/.ssh
[04:47] <bodhizazen> cat key_name > ~/.ssh/authorized_keys
[04:47] <TJ__> I have a problem. My main ubuntu partition is locked and I'm unable to log into it, because I'm getting an error - The configuration defaults for Gnome Power Manager have not been installed correctly
[04:48] <TJ__> I've figured out that the partition is likely full
[04:48] <TJ__> but I'm unable to remove anything or access the home folder to recover the files I need before I can wipe/reinstall or fix anything
[04:48] <bodhizazen> Take out the trash TJ__
[04:48] <bodhizazen> Boot to recovery mode
[04:48] <TJ__> It still wouldn't let me log in
[04:49] <bodhizazen> When you boot to recovery mode, you are logged in as root
[04:49] <TJ__> I'll go try that again
[04:49] <TJ__> brb
[04:49] <bodhizazen> If that fails, you will need to boot a live CD, mount your Ubuntu partition, and clean it up
[04:50] <TJ__> Well I had some success mounting the partition, in an attempt to unlock the encrypted home folder, but am unable to clear any space to login that way either...is there a command I'm missing to remove a file/directory to clear up a bit of space?
[04:50] <TJ__> Or should I just try recover mode again first?
[04:51] <bodhizazen> If home is encrypted you are in for some hurt =)
[04:51] <IdleOne> paultag: Rocky just got fired from the meat plant :(
[04:52] <IdleOne> very sad situation
[04:52] <paultag> IdleOne: oh noe
[04:52] <paultag> IdleOne: how will he ever recover?!
[04:53] <IdleOne> looks like he is going against his doctors advice
[04:54] <IdleOne> he's going to fight!
[04:54] <IdleOne> SPOILER!
[04:54] <IdleOne> hehe
[04:54] <paultag> Oh shoot!
[04:55] <robbmunson> My ubuntu server cd just came in the mail =D
[04:55] <IdleOne> yay for free cd's
[04:56] <robbmunson> yay for being lazy.  Good thing it wasnt something I absolutely needed right now.
[04:57] <IdleOne> So i need to make a hackergotchi
[04:57] <IdleOne> First I need a picture of myself
[04:57] <robbmunson> Good luck, its tedious....
[04:57] <IdleOne> only tedious if you try to do it perfect
[04:58] <IdleOne> but
[04:58] <IdleOne> I have a plan
[04:58] <robbmunson> im a perfectionist IdleOne...
[04:58] <IdleOne> I intend on purposely make it bad
[04:58] <IdleOne> :)
[04:58] <IdleOne> s/make/making
[04:59] <bodhizazen> Jason1, poke
[04:59] <bodhizazen> tar xvf archive.tar -C /var
[04:59]  * zkriesse hugs bodhizazen
[04:59] <bodhizazen> put the -C last
[05:01] <JoeMaverickSett> how do i join the beginners team?
[05:01] <IdleOne> launchpad
[05:02] <IdleOne> and send me $5
[05:02] <IdleOne> joining the team is free
[05:02] <JoeMaverickSett> LOL!
[05:02] <IdleOne> the 5 bucks is a loan
[05:02] <IdleOne> :)
[05:02] <JoeMaverickSett> i would go to court for charging me $5. =P
[05:03] <bodhizazen> 'lo JoeMaverickSett =)
[05:03] <bodhizazen> You are in the right place
[05:03] <JoeMaverickSett> haha!
[05:04]  * bodhizazen wonders if we have a policy re: membership
[05:04] <IdleOne> JoeMaverickSett: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-beginners
[05:05] <JoeMaverickSett> IdleOne, okie.
[05:06] <IdleOne> team seems to be restricted
[05:07] <IdleOne> I don't see a join link
[05:07] <JoeMaverickSett> nvm then.
[05:08] <IdleOne> you gave up quick
[05:08] <IdleOne> poke zkriesse ^^^
[05:08] <JoeMaverickSett> lol! this channel is enough atm.
[05:08] <bodhizazen> JoeMaverickSett, ask paultag
[05:09] <JoeMaverickSett> bodhizazen, alrighty.
[05:09] <paultag> what?
[05:09] <paultag> darn kids pinging me
[05:10]  * JoeMaverickSett hides  under his laptop! =P
[05:10] <Jason1> i just did useradd -g sudo jason but I don't have a home folder
[05:10] <Jason1> am i supposed to make that mysefl?
[05:10] <paultag> Jason1: sudo adduser
[05:10] <IdleOne> JoeMaverickSett: don't be scared of paultag, his bark is way worse then his bite
[05:10] <JoeMaverickSett> lol!
[05:11] <Jason1> i was root when I made it
[05:11] <IdleOne> Jason1: you enabled a root account in Ubuntu?
[05:11] <paultag> IdleOne: way to ruin my fun
[05:11] <IdleOne> paultag: I didn't tell him that you actually do bite lol
[05:12] <paultag> :P
[05:12] <JoeMaverickSett> haha!
[05:12] <JoeMaverickSett> paultag, IdleOne was telling me about the ubuntu-beginners-team on launchpad. says it's restricted.
[05:13] <Jason1> im logged in as root so I can create the user accounts
[05:13] <JoeMaverickSett> could i join that?
[05:14] <paultag> JoeMaverickSett: You need to become a member
[05:14] <paultag> JoeMaverickSett: There is a membership process outlined on the wiki
[05:14] <JoeMaverickSett> paultag, okie. taking a look at it now.
[05:15] <IdleOne> Jason1: Ubuntu does not have a root account to log into, that means you enabled the root account. WHY?
[05:16] <bodhizazen> paultag, you like my new avatar ?
[05:16] <bodhizazen> http://ubuntuforums.org/customavatars/avatar89054_118.gif
[05:16] <paultag> bodhizazen: that's awesome as hell
[05:16] <paultag> bodhizazen: kick some ass :)
[05:17] <bodhizazen> Jason1, did you see my last message ?
[05:18] <Jason1> ok im logged in as me now but sudo su to root
[05:18] <bodhizazen> re: tar ?
[05:18] <bodhizazen> Jason1, sudo -i
[05:18] <bodhizazen> lol
[05:18] <bodhizazen> then
[05:18] <IdleOne> The thing is, being in the beginners channel asking about adding a user account and then stating you are logged in as root. IS exactly why root is locked by default.
[05:18] <Jason1> im running 10.04 lts server
[05:18] <bodhizazen> tar xvf archive.tar -C /var
[05:20] <Jason1> root is disabled
[05:25] <Jason1> im in here  to learn.  If Im doing something that isn't smart let me know.
[05:26] <Jason1> just typing in commands doesn't mean I actually understand what it is doing.,
[05:30] <bodhizazen> Jason1, were you able to extract the archive to /var ?
[05:30] <bodhizazen> and sudo -i is preferred to sudo su
[05:34] <Jason1> I was not because I caught flack for being logged in as root.  So I've been trying to "properly" setup a sudo user and then do it.
[05:34] <Jason1> i did useradd -g sudo jason
[05:34] <Jason1> there is no home directory though
[05:34] <Jason1> (for jason)
[05:35] <Dextralus> Ha! :D I got the wireless working on my samsung n220
[05:35] <Jason1> i turned off root from the sshd_config file and am now on "jason" with sudo su
[05:36] <bodhizazen> how did you add your user ?
[05:38] <Jason1> useradd jason
[05:43] <bodhizazen> Jason1, use adduser next time
[05:43] <bodhizazen> adduser Jason
[05:43] <bodhizazen> that will make a /home for you
[05:47] <bodhizazen> ttfn
[05:47] <bodhizazen> my internet connection sucks
[05:55] <JoeMaverickSett> even if i have a mentor in Ubuntu Youth, i still need to find a mentor in Ubuntu Beginners Team, is that right?
[06:18] <slidinghorn> JoeMaverickSett, I believe that's the case
[06:19] <JoeMaverickSett> slidinghorn, alright. thanks.
[07:05] <homeero> hi.. i used to have wubi installed for ubuntu 10.04, but i deleted it and installed in a new partition.. however i did "dpkg --get-selections > selections.txt"
[07:05] <homeero> that gave me a text file with all the packages i had installed
[07:06] <homeero> so i ran another command to make apt-get to install all of them.. but the terminal says it is going to uninstall "grub-pc" so can i uninstall it and then reinstall it.. or is it unnecesary
[07:07] <homeero> ... did i explained myself?
[07:21] <hobgoblin> homeero: yes you did explain yourself, I'd not be letting it remove grub-pc
[07:22] <hobgoblin> but you could as you say reinstall it afterwards - or just remove it from the text file
[07:22] <homeero> so.. i tried removing the "grub-pc      uninstall" part from the text file but it will want to remove it anyways
[07:22] <homeero> i guess ill just reinstall it afterwards
[07:23] <homeero> Thanks hobgoblin
[07:24] <hobgoblin> personally I prefer to just install what I need - a large proportion of anything on the list will be installed anyway and it's easy to miss something
[07:26] <homeero> i would do that but i messed around with the packages and stuff and i liked the apps i had installed.. and im sure ill end up forgetting something so ill just mass install everything i had earlier
[07:27] <hobgoblin> lol - well I have a list of the things I need to install - so it is a oneliner anyway - the most important thing to have in my opinion are any configs you have edited and if you have a copy of /home then you have user specific confs for apps that need them
[07:30] <homeero> actually i tried backing up /home.. but i couldnt.. but anyways i can re-configure all the apps
[07:32] <hobgoblin> homeero: all you need to do is copy /home/user/whatever - needs to be in the same name though I suspect
[07:32] <homeero> ok.. so ill install about 2 Gb of packages.. wish me luck..
[07:32] <homeero> cya and thak you
[07:33] <homeero> ohh nvm i already trashed the wubi instalation..
[07:33] <homeero> cyaa
[08:31] <zkriesse> Hell yeah bodhi...kick ass
[11:06] <Fanshawe> how do I edit the default program a file is opened with? 'Preferred applications' is no help here.
[11:09] <JoeMaverickSett> Fanshawe, right click >> Properties >> Open With, how about that? or is it the same as what you are saying?
[11:09] <suprengr> Fanshawe: right click on file concerned, choose: open with other application, and ensure you tick the check box is always wanted
[11:09]  * JoeMaverickSett also agrees with suprengr!
[11:10] <Fanshawe> Thank you. That worked for individual files, but I'm trying to do this for a folder where there is no 'properties' tab.
[11:10] <Fanshawe> I sometimes open entire folders (albums) in a media player that's no longer installed.
[11:11] <Fanshawe> Nautilus is still the default program, but the uninstalled one is stuck in the context menu,
[11:12] <suprengr> Fanshawe: thought about creating a playlist in the media player concerned?
[11:13] <Fanshawe> that's what I normally would do, yeah
[11:14] <Fanshawe> But I just used that as another way of opening albums
[11:15] <suprengr> Fanshawe: what about open folder, selecting all files and ~THEN~ choosing open with...
[11:18] <Fanshawe> that would've worked too, yes, but then I didn't think my media player would be irreversibly listed in Nautilus' context menu
[11:19] <suprengr> Fanshawe: why not?
[11:20] <suprengr> Fanshawe: is the real problem that you have an uninstalled app still showing in context menu?
[11:23] <Fanshawe> yes
[11:24] <suprengr> Fanshawe: reinstall it ,then do what you need to, then uninstall it. perhaps ;)
[11:26] <suprengr> Fanshawe: if still a no-go after that... maybe try #ubuntu ??
[11:47] <suprengr> Fanshawe: tried Configuration Editor?
[11:56] <geirha> Fanshawe: Do you get any output when you run this in a terminal?  grep x-directory ~/.local/share/applications/mime*
[14:47] <stlsaint> man that sucks
[15:24] <Jason3> Can someone help me figure out in the /etc/hosts file, when I am trying to setup a FQDN the third coloumn is what the machine thinks it is called?    For localhost its pretty opbvious.  but if I have just set my machine name to "gatorade" does it go X.X.X.X www.mymachine.com gatorade?
[15:24] <paultag> Jason3: <IP_ADDRESS> Seraphiel.Whube.com  Seraphiel
[15:24] <paultag> Jason3: that's a line from one of my servers
[15:25] <paultag> Jason3: caps kinda suck, but you can ignore that
[15:25] <paultag> I set it up a while ago
[15:33] <geirha> The format is explained in ''man hosts''
[15:33] <paultag> +1 geirha
[16:14] <Jason3> still getting a problem "sudo: unable to resolve host gatorade" after I do sudo -i
[16:17] <hobgoblin> Jason3: check this thread out - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=723361
[16:22] <Jason3> still getting the error.  Im sure though it has to do with the config file
[16:22] <Jason3> err..  hosts
[16:23] <Jason3> <IP_ADDRESS> localhost.localdomain localhost
[16:23] <Jason3> x.x.x.x mywebsite.com gatorade
[16:24] <aveilleux> Jason3: Is x.x.x.x actually in your hosts file?
[16:26] <Jason3> hahah  no..  i removed the numbers
[16:26] <aveilleux> Jason3: Just checking
[16:27] <Jason3> no prob
[16:30] <Jason3> argh!   fixed it!  didn't type in the #s correctly
[16:31] <aveilleux> Ahhh.
[16:31] <hobgoblin> so it was the file then ;)
[16:49] <Jason3> it was user error!  =)
[16:50] <aveilleux> Jason3: There's a term for that... PEBKAC
[16:51] <aveilleux> Jason3: Though addmitedly that's a term usually reserved for plebs
[16:51] <hobgoblin> or anyone else :)
[16:52] <hobgoblin> don't try and tell me you never succumbed to pebkac aveilleux :)
[16:52] <aveilleux> hobgoblin: NUH UH I'M A COMPYOOTER GOD
[16:52] <isiah> I need a copy of starcraft 2, but dont want to pay 60 bucks for it
[16:52] <aveilleux> isiah: Wait a few months for it to go down in price
[16:52] <isiah> do you think they will trade me for a pint of blood?
[16:53] <isiah> slightly used
[16:54] <isiah> all those koreans are getting good at the game as we speak
[16:55] <isiah> by the time I get a copy they will be much more powerful
[16:55] <hobgoblin> never ceases to amaze me you lot sell blood :)
[16:56] <isiah> I actually heard they dont pay for blood anymore
[16:56] <isiah> or organs
[16:56] <hobgoblin> supposed to be giving a pint of mine next week I think
[16:58] <isiah> I cant do that
[16:59] <isiah> honestly I am terrified of needles
[16:59] <aveilleux> isiah: The koreans have been good at SC2 since the alpha release
[16:59] <isiah> everyday they get better
[17:00] <isiah> and I become more of a newb
[17:00] <hobgoblin> isiah: you would not have liked the last blood test I ahd then - 4 goes trying to get blood from a wrist artery - in the end I fainted - it hurt ...
[17:02] <isiah> I got into a car accident a few years back, and they had to run a line of pain killers into me. The guy took a look at my arm before he started and screamed "quick get the intern". According to him I have like the best possible veins for this and could be a great drug addict, so they wanted the intern to practice on me
[17:03] <hobgoblin> lol
[17:04] <isiah> I think that was the moment I became terrified of needles
[17:04] <hobgoblin> :)
[17:05] <isiah> has someone written a tutorial on running starcraft2 through wine yet?
[17:09] <hobgoblin> no idea - it's a game so I ignore it
[17:09] <aveilleux> isiah: I don't think it's been done yet
[17:09] <hobgoblin> I would say hi st33med - but I don't think I will
[17:09] <st33med> :(
[17:09]  * st33med sits in a corner and cries
[17:09] <hobgoblin> oh
[17:09] <hobgoblin> :(
[17:09] <hobgoblin> hi st3 :)
[17:09] <st33med> MEANIE!
[17:10] <st33med> Hi :)
[17:10] <hobgoblin> tab fail
[17:10] <hobgoblin> :)
[17:10] <isiah> the only two reasons I keep windows around is netflix and video games
[17:11] <hobgoblin> the only windows I have now is an old win2k install disc and some glassy things in the walls
[17:11] <isiah> I would like to mess around with apple stuff
[17:13] <hobgoblin> isiah: I'd like an orchard and a house to go with it
[17:13] <JoeMaverickSett> how do i get back my OpenPGP key, if i reinstalled my pc?
[17:13] <isiah> I have that already
[17:14] <isiah> but only two apple trees so far
[17:17] <isiah> JoeMaverickSett: you lost your public or private key?
[17:17] <JoeMaverickSett> isiah, no i was thinking what if i had to reinstall the whole pc. how would i recover then?
[17:17] <JoeMaverickSett> no keys lost yet.
[17:18] <isiah> basically you should export your public key to one of those databases
[17:18] <isiah> and your private key can be exported locally to say your desktop, where you can copy it to like a memory stick
[17:19] <JoeMaverickSett> if i had signed the CoC, that means that my public key is on the server, right?
[17:19] <isiah> check the server
[17:19] <isiah> just go there and search fro yourself
[17:19] <JoeMaverickSett> i've signed it. =D
[17:19] <isiah> I did that once and found that over the years I have made like 50 keys
[17:19] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: No, that's just the public key. Your private key is not on the server.
[17:20] <JoeMaverickSett> oh!
[17:20] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: I'm not on Linux right now, but I think it should be on file in ~/.ssh somewhere
[17:20] <isiah> honestly, I know a lot of people who just include there public key in there email signature
[17:20] <JoeMaverickSett> the private key? aveilleux.
[17:21] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: Yes, I think it's in there. I'd have to reboot to Ubuntu to check, though.
[17:21] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: Let me do that now.
[17:21] <isiah> hehee, you really should encrypt your private key
[17:22] <JoeMaverickSett> aveilleux, don't do it just for me.
[17:22] <JoeMaverickSett> =D
[17:22] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: Don't worry, I've got three computers :3
[17:22] <JoeMaverickSett> aveilleux, wow! =D
[17:22] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: Just gotta boot up one of my other ones
[17:23] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: Well, seven if you count the server and the three computers in my closet
[17:23]  * JoeMaverickSett salutes aveilleux.
[17:23] <JoeMaverickSett> =)
[17:23] <isiah> I only got 3 comps
[17:24] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: Wait nooo that's RSA, not PGP
[17:24] <JoeMaverickSett> i just did install xubuntu-desktop on my Ubuntu, then when i wanted to convert back to Ubuntu, i think i sort of first removed xubuntu-desktop first. so, i'm thinking i might need a re-installation.
[17:24] <isiah> I wonder what encryption algorithms Batman uses?
[17:24] <JoeMaverickSett> =(
[17:25] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: No, you just need to sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[17:25] <JoeMaverickSett> then? next step? aveilleux.
[17:25] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: That's all you need to do, assuming you have a functioning command-line system
[17:26] <JoeMaverickSett> now i'm kinda like on xubuntu, i just did sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, it says "ubuntu-desktop is already the newest version"
[17:27] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: At the login screen, look at the bottom (after selecting your username). In the "Sessions" dropdown menu, select "GNOME".
[17:27] <JoeMaverickSett> eh, that is possible. but then the splash screen?
[17:27] <JoeMaverickSett> it's still Xubuntu. =D
[17:28] <JoeMaverickSett> i tried sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-artwork-usplash. but no go.
[17:28] <JoeMaverickSett> or my command is wrong?
[17:28] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: Ubuntu 10.04 doesn't use usplash anymore, it uses ssssssomething else I don't remember the name of.
[17:29] <IdleOne> plymouth
[17:29] <aveilleux> IdleOne +1
[17:29] <JoeMaverickSett> aveilleux, oh! i'm such a newbie.
[17:29] <JoeMaverickSett> so, how do i remove that?
[17:30] <JoeMaverickSett> sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-artwork-plymouth? =P
[17:30] <IdleOne> JoeMaverickSett: look for something like xubuntu artwork plymouth or some such
[17:30] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-do-you-change-the-boot-splash-screen-image-for-10-04-lucid-lynx.html Maybe?
[17:30] <IdleOne> !puregnome
[17:30] <ubot2> Factoid 'puregnome' not found
[17:30] <JoeMaverickSett> hehe! "sudo apt-get remove xubuntu-artwork-plymouth" is no go. =)
[17:31] <paultag> you can't ever really remove plymouth
[17:31] <paultag> it's built into the kernel, dawg
[17:31] <paultag> you can remove splash from grub
[17:31] <paultag> but it's still "there"
[17:31] <aveilleux> JoeMaverickSett: http://ubuntuguide.net/howto-change-plymouth-themes-initial-splash-screen-in-ubuntu-10-04  This might be more like what you're looking for
[17:31] <IdleOne> he is not removing plymouth but the artwork file that plymouth uses
[17:31] <JoeMaverickSett> hehe! i don't quite understand it yet. still learning.
[17:32] <IdleOne> !purexfce
[17:32] <ubot2> If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce »
[17:32] <hobgoblin> last time I used on of aysiu's puredesktop things it went wrong
[17:32] <aveilleux> IdleOne, he doesn't want XFCE. He wants to revert back to GNOME.
[17:32] <JoeMaverickSett> ah! nope, i want to remove all Xfce. and have back all Gnome.
[17:32] <JoeMaverickSett> yeah. that's the case.
[17:32] <hobgoblin> then there is a pure gnome one too
[17:33] <IdleOne> aveilleux: yeah I am trying to find the correct package name
[17:33] <aveilleux> IdleOne, JoeMaverickSett: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[17:33] <IdleOne> that's the one
[17:33] <hobgoblin> JoeMaverickSett:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/ is a good resource to bookmark fullstop
[17:34] <IdleOne> xubuntu-plymouth-theme
[17:34] <JoeMaverickSett> trying that now. yeah i'm going to "Read It Later" bookmark. hobgoblin.
[17:34] <IdleOne> remove that and log out then back in and should see the ubuntu splash
[17:34] <hobgoblin> the only thing missing from there now is a dualboot page - he changed it to wubi
[17:35] <IdleOne> or run the entire command just to make sure
[17:35] <JoeMaverickSett> after that should i do sudo /etc/init.d/dmg restart ?
[17:35] <JoeMaverickSett> or is it the right command?
[17:35] <IdleOne> alt-sysrq-k
[17:35] <JoeMaverickSett> oh!
[17:35] <IdleOne> or ctrl-alt-del if you enabled it
[17:35] <IdleOne> !dontzap
[17:35] <ubot2> To re-enable the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace combination that restarts your X server see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap
[17:36] <JoeMaverickSett> i think the former one will work.
[17:36] <IdleOne> err ctrl-alt-backspace
[17:39] <JoeMaverickSett> brb!
[17:43] <IdleOne> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome
[17:44] <shahan> Happy Friendship Day to all
[17:44] <shahan> :)
[17:44] <hobgoblin> hi shahan
[17:44] <shahan> hobgoblin: hello... happy friendship day
[17:44] <hobgoblin> IdleOne: someone copied it over then :)
[17:44] <JoeMaverickSett> i'm back and alive! =D
[17:45] <IdleOne> hobgoblin: I did
[17:45] <hobgoblin> or a ghost in the ether JoeMaverickSett :)
[17:45] <IdleOne> JoeMaverickSett: so everything is good now?
[17:45] <IAmNotThatGuy> heya shahan. Long time no see
[17:45] <JoeMaverickSett> =D
[17:45] <hobgoblin> IdleOne: good one
[17:45] <JoeMaverickSett> yeah, except that i lost my pidgin, xchat and virtualbox. =D
[17:45] <JoeMaverickSett> had to reinstall.
[17:45] <shahan> IAmNotThatGuy: ya... I was out of internet... And was doing for a website design
[17:45] <IdleOne> not to bad
[17:46] <IAmNotThatGuy> cool shahan
[17:46] <JoeMaverickSett> btw, thanks for helping this MOTU-wannabe-noob! =D
[17:46] <shahan> IAmNotThatGuy: nice to meet you
[17:46] <shahan> Just 5 mins ago, while I was starting the PC, a message appeared in a BLACK screen and its hang
[17:47] <IAmNotThatGuy> shahan: IAmNotThatGuy
[17:47] <shahan> (Process:325): GLib-warning ** : getpwuid_r(): failed due to unknown user id(0)
[17:47] <shahan> Then I restart the PC (ctrl+alt+delete), I have backed the Desktop. Why this has been appeared? Is my PC going to be crashed?
[17:48] <IAmNotThatGuy> Hmm..graphics library file is showing an error......
[17:48] <jagan185> HI everyone.
[17:49] <JoeMaverickSett> Yo! wad up? jagan185.
[17:49] <hobgoblin> good whatever time it is there to you jagan185
[17:49] <jagan185> If I wanted to migrate from ubuntu 9.10 to 10.04 with a new installation, can save my settings, applications etc....
[17:51] <hobgoblin> you should be able to upgrade from 9.10 to 10.04 - backup, I'd also make sure to remove all 3rd party repos and do an install of ubuntu-desktop
[17:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> shahan: It seems It is a bug http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1443231&page=3
[17:52] <IdleOne> !separatehome
[17:52] <ubot2> Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[17:52] <IAmNotThatGuy> thats the thread where people discussed about that
[17:52] <IdleOne> another useful link from them crazy kittehs
[17:54] <hobgoblin> IdleOne: another one I've used :)
[17:54] <IdleOne> me too
[17:54] <IdleOne> haven't looked back since lol
[17:54] <hobgoblin> :)
[17:54] <IdleOne> /home is a beautiful thing
[17:55] <hobgoblin> I think I had that site as a home page when I started :)
[17:55] <IdleOne> my home page is #ubuntu
[17:55] <paultag> I just wrote a hello world app in c
[17:55] <IdleOne> I don't need to bookmark, the bot does it for me
[17:55] <paultag> anyone wana see?
[17:55] <IdleOne> lol
[17:55] <paultag> http://pastebin.com/K6A6ANqi <-- just done
[17:56] <paultag> What? Don't believe me? Compile it!
[17:56] <hobgoblin> IdleOne: I only go there to see how much better the grass is on the other side
[17:56] <hobgoblin> IdleOne: my home page is http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=87
[17:56] <hobgoblin> :)
[17:57] <jagan185> Thanks ubot2.
[17:57] <hobgoblin> paultag: I always believe you ...
[17:57] <paultag> :)
[17:57] <paultag> Because it's flippen sweet
[17:57] <hobgoblin> and did you look that band up?
[17:57] <IAmNotThatGuy> OMG paultag. Is that needed to write that much biggy?? ?_?
[17:57] <jagan185> What about the customisations, panels, docks?
[17:57] <paultag> hobgoblin: yes, and I loved them for sure
[17:57] <paultag> hobgoblin: I forgot their name though
[17:57] <hobgoblin> excellent
[17:57] <paultag> IAmNotThatGuy: I'm never one to take the easy route
[17:57] <IdleOne> I was never big on the forums
[17:58] <paultag> hobgoblin: what was their name again?
[17:58] <hobgoblin> stars of the lid
[17:58] <paultag> IdleOne: let me know if it compiles :3
[17:58] <paultag> AH YES!
[17:58] <paultag> thanks hobgoblin :D
[17:58] <IdleOne> why would I want to compile that lol
[17:58] <drubin> paultag: wtf
[17:58] <paultag> IdleOne: because I wrote it lovingly
[17:58] <paultag> drubin: it works!
[17:58] <IAmNotThatGuy> paultag: do one thing, swim back to USA,then start walking towards Boston
[17:58] <paultag> a few -Wall errors
[17:58] <paultag> but totally worth  it
[17:58] <paultag> IAmNotThatGuy: :)
[17:59] <drubin> paultag: what does it do?
[17:59] <paultag> tag@wintermute:~/TrashFolder/bfc$ ./test
[17:59] <paultag> Hello World!
[17:59] <IAmNotThatGuy> paultag: c'mon man you said "I'm never one to take the easy route" then take that
[17:59] <paultag> drubin: the most kickassists hello world in C ever
[17:59] <IAmNotThatGuy> :P
[17:59] <drubin> paultag: Ok it was worth it
[17:59] <paultag> IAmNotThatGuy: Pfft
[17:59] <paultag> drubin: It's pretty rad :)
[18:00] <IAmNotThatGuy> lol
[18:00] <paultag> drubin: I'm saving that for the next time I see a "How do I do hello world in c?"
[18:00] <drubin> geirha: How do you compile it?
[18:00] <IdleOne> paultag: can you script me a coffee cup that auto refills?
[18:00] <drubin> paultag: ^ gcc or soemthing else
[18:00] <paultag> IdleOne: I wish :/
[18:00] <paultag> drubin: gcc works
[18:01] <paultag> drubin: a few -Wall warnings, but nothing to worry about
[18:01] <paultag> drubin: it's whining about how I use pointers. Pfft.
[18:01] <paultag> I could fix the return warning
[18:01] <paultag> but I don't really care
[18:01] <recognizer> hi, anybody have problem with the  mouse cursor? It doesnt appear in the session start
[18:02] <IAmNotThatGuy> paultag: tweeted your program :D
[18:02] <paultag> thanks IAmNotThatGuy :D
[18:02] <drubin> wtf why does it compile to a.out
[18:02] <paultag> drubin: gcc -o test test.c
[18:03] <IdleOne> ok teach me
[18:03] <IdleOne> how do I compile that?
[18:03] <drubin> paultag: over it it works and is awezosme
[18:03] <paultag> IdleOne: that command I just posted to drubin
[18:03] <paultag> drubin: thanks :D
[18:03] <paultag> IdleOne: where test.c is the text in that pastebin
[18:04] <IdleOne> hmm all that did was put a new icon on my Desktop
[18:04] <paultag> IdleOne: hurm?
[18:05] <IAmNotThatGuy> in your home folder IdleOne
[18:05] <paultag> IdleOne: cd ~
[18:05] <paultag> IdleOne: wget http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=K6A6ANqi
[18:05] <paultag> IdleOne: mv raw.php?i=K6A6ANqi test.c
[18:05] <IdleOne> yeah I got the file, renamed to .c
[18:05] <paultag> IdleOne: gcc -o test test.c
[18:05] <paultag> IdleOne: ./test
[18:06] <drubin> paultag: wget http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=K6A6ANqi -O test.c
[18:06] <paultag> <3 drubin
[18:06] <paultag> that's the one
[18:06] <drubin> I have had to wget some pretty DODGY urls and bash doesn't like renaming them P:)
[18:06] <IdleOne> Dude seriously! I was expecting to see fireworks or some cool stuff happen, like maybe it could pretend to delete /home or something lol
[18:06] <paultag> hahaha
[18:06] <drubin> when you have & and ? and = in file names
[18:07] <drubin> IdleOne: that is the most verbose hello world ever
[18:07] <paultag> IdleOne: not with that code. That's the biggest crapfest I've ever done
[18:07] <drubin> it is awesome
[18:07] <paultag> it rocks
[18:07] <paultag> it uses an array + a single pointer to do it
[18:07] <paultag> it's kinda like a turing machine
[18:08] <paultag> the "tape" has a max size but meh
[18:08] <paultag> it's just hello worl
[18:08] <paultag> d
[18:09] <IdleOne> paultag: In case you were wondering, Rocky went on to fight Mr. T and also some big Russian dude and won
[18:09] <IdleOne> Apollo is now dead :(
[18:09] <drubin> OMG I met Mr T on thursday night
[18:09] <Jason3> I'm getting a pop-up to download the index.php file after installing php rather than it opening the page in my webbrowser.
[18:09] <Jason3> ??
[18:09] <IdleOne> drubin: did he pity you?
[18:10] <drubin> nah it was a friend, but his credit card had Mr T on it
[18:10] <drubin> it was awesome
[18:10] <IdleOne> lol
[18:11] <paultag> IdleOne:  Ohnoes!!
[18:11] <paultag> drubin: haha no frak
[18:11] <paultag> IdleOne: dude I lol'd so hard last night
[18:11] <paultag> IdleOne: I got the memo on my phone and just loved it
[18:18] <Jason3> bump
[18:21] <Jason3> nvmd it was the browsers cache not getting updated
[18:33] <isiah> nerd music break!!!!
[18:33] <isiah> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtPk5IUbdH0
[18:41] <IdleOne> paultag: ")
[18:54] <Jason3> anyone know of a good post on the best way to backup my server (10.04)?
[19:01] <hobgoblin> Jason3: a start https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupPC a search engine http://crunchbang.org/ubuntu-search-engine/
[19:34] <isiah> hey anyone around with skype?
[19:34] <zkriesse> I am isiah
[19:34] <zkriesse> What is the issue
[19:34] <isiah> I just got it and would like to test it
[19:34] <isiah> would you mind?
[19:34] <zkriesse> Sure not a problem
[19:34] <isiah> ok what is your skype number?
[19:40] <Jason3> what does this mean for tar -v verbosely list files processed ?
[19:41] <isiah> you want to know what happens when you type in "tar -v"?
[19:41] <Jason3> well i want to know what verbosely list files processed means.  So kind of.
[19:42] <isiah> what did man say?
[19:42] <Jason3> verbosely list files processed
[19:42] <isiah> my guess would be to show you every file as it upacks
[19:42] <isiah> I might have a tar ball around to test it
[19:42] <isiah> brb....testing
[19:43] <Jason3> thx
[19:43] <Jason3> I have a medium sized file but it has a TON of files in it to unpack.
[19:47] <isiah> ok it seems to do whatever else it was going to do, plus it lists all the files in the terminal
[19:47] <Jason3> ok thanks!
[19:47] <isiah> so, I guess that could have some use
[19:48] <isiah> not sure what exactly
[19:48] <Jason3> sudo tar -xf -C /srv srv.tar.gz
[19:48] <Jason3> what did i do wrong here?
[19:48] <isiah> what are you trying to do?
[19:48] <Jason3> unpack the srv.tar.gz file into the /srv directory
[19:49] <isiah> sudo mv srv.tar.gz && tar zxf srv.tar.gz
[19:49] <isiah> try that
[19:50] <isiah> let me know if it works
[19:51] <Jason3> i don't get it.  move the file, but not to anywhere?
[19:52] <isiah> agh
[19:52] <isiah> sudo mv srv.tar.gz /srv && tar zxf srv.tar.gz
[19:52] <isiah> sorry
[19:54] <Jason3> no
[19:54] <Jason3> Cannot open: No such file or directory
[19:54] <Jason3> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[19:54] <Jason3> tar: Child returned status 2
[19:54] <Jason3> tar: Exiting with failure status due to previous errors
[19:54] <isiah> ok move the file
[19:54] <isiah> then do the tar thing
[19:54] <Jason3> into /srv?
[19:54] <isiah> yes
[19:54] <Jason3> done
[19:54] <isiah> now
[19:55] <isiah> sudo tar zxf srv.tar.gz
[19:56] <isiah> internet blow up?
[19:56] <Jason3> ok that worked.  it is one dirctory off.  are there any options i need to mv the whole folder and all the files into another or will sudo mv work?
[19:57] <isiah> so now you got a /srv/srv directory?
[19:57] <isiah> full of files?
[19:57] <Jason3> heheh yeah
[19:58] <Jason3> actually I only really need to move one of the folders and have it overwrite if there are files with the same names
[19:58] <isiah> I dont remember
[19:58] <Jason3> dir -all
[19:58] <Jason3> errr.  wrong window sorrt!
[19:59] <isiah> try this
[19:59] <isiah> sudo mv -r /srv/srv /srv
[20:00] <Jason3> mv: invalid option -- 'r'
[20:00] <isiah> agh
[20:00] <isiah> I dont know
[20:01] <Jason3> man page -f?
[20:01] <isiah> can you move it manually?
[20:05] <Jason3> umm... how do you undo a rm -r?
[20:05] <isiah> you dont
[20:05] <pedro3005> you don't
[20:05] <isiah> its gone forever
[20:05] <Jason3> funny!  thank goodness for backups!
[20:05] <pedro3005> Well, technically, a file recovery program *could* be able to recover it
[20:05] <pedro3005> but it's never certain
[20:05] <isiah> cast into the 7th circle of digital hell
[20:07] <Jason3> be back in 4 minutes!  ;(
[20:16] <Jason3> how do I turn it off so that browsers don't list the files in a folder if it goes there and there is no index file?
[20:32] <geirha> Jason3: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_autoindex.html
[21:51] <isiah> that is not dead which can eternal lie yet with strange aeons even death may die
[21:52] <uRock> and then?
[21:53] <paultag> only then can you start living
[21:54] <isiah> i write that when the room gets boring
[22:19] <alt1231> anyone give help installing linux side by side with vista on raid0?
[22:19] <alt1231> which linux dist best to sue for it and setup details
[23:15] <isiah> i start my new job tomorrow
[23:38] <lukjad> isiah Very nice, what is it?
[23:38] <isiah> electrical engineer in-charge of electrical safety
[23:38] <lukjad> Niiice
[23:38] <lukjad> Congrats isiah !
[23:39] <isiah> thank you
[23:58] <zkriesse> Hello Dextralus


[00:01] <asac> crimsun: can you hold back on the major refactoring due to the amd64 plugin that came up until UDS
[00:01] <asac> ?
[00:01] <asac> there are a  few things we should consider when seriously touching that package again
[00:01] <crimsun> asac: sure
[09:32] <gnomefreak> anyone have the master hotmail bug handy?
[10:09] <gnomefreak> bug 155459
[10:18] <gnomefreak> i give up i cant find that bug to save my life
[12:59]  * asac yawns
[15:27] <rzr> asac: hi, I need your advice
[15:27] <rzr> asac: about flashblock, upstream never pull real version into repository's files
[15:27] <rzr> he uses alpha versions all the time
[15:28] <rzr> so should we set this by hand (as he does) or uses alpha versions ...
[15:28] <rzr> #2 option is better for me
[15:54] <Volans> Hi all :)
[15:55] <Volans> asac: did you remember that you can't contact all members of a LP group if someone of them hide the email address to others?
[15:55] <Volans> There was an LP bug open and now a fix was released.... see LP bug 66105
[15:56] <Volans> ;)
[16:11] <asac> Volans: oh
[16:11] <asac> and what about actual members that are not prospective?
[16:11] <asac> does that work too? how?
[16:24] <Volans> asac: sincerly I don't have investigated, just at work now and when I have received the email from LP I have remember that we have spoken about that when organizing the mozillateam meetings ;)
[17:18] <nxvl> hi!
[17:18] <nxvl> where can i put an ini that goes to ./usr/lib/firefox-$VERSION/distribution/ so it's version independient?
[18:45] <Lns> asac: hey, is the newly released FF 3.0.4+nobinonly-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> including the /dev/urandom fix ? I don't see it in the changelog, but i might just not be seeing it..
[18:55] <nxvl> asac: ping
[20:25] <saivann> asac : ping
[20:26] <nxvl_> fta: ping
[20:50] <fta> nxvl_, pong
[20:51] <nxvl_> fta: hi! i'm fighting with a binary package for firefox, which is installing everything into /usr/lib/firefox-VERSION, i already moved the extension to where it should be to be version independendt
[20:51] <nxvl_> fta: but still don't know where to put the distribution.ini
[20:52] <nxvl_> which is installed in /usr/lib/firefox-VERSION/distribution
[20:52] <nxvl_> fta: did you have any idea of where it should go?
[20:53] <fta> hm, i don't think you should use /usr/lib/firefox-VERSION at all. it's not stable as it changes for each version.
[20:53] <nxvl_> yup
[20:53] <nxvl_> that's why i want to move it from there
[20:53] <nxvl_> but i don't know where to put it
[20:53] <fta> what do you mean by "binary package for firefox" ?
[20:53] <nxvl_> as in i'm trying to get rid of it
[20:53] <fta> what project is that?
[20:53] <nxvl_> is a google toolbar binary package
[20:55] <fta> it's not an extension?
[20:56] <nxvl_> containing an extension
[20:56] <fta> we have stable paths for extensions and plugins
[20:56] <nxvl_> i'm not sure what it does or has
[20:57] <nxvl_> fta: did you have a wiki page or something i take a look at?
[20:57] <fta> hm, not for that i'm afraid. we have one for extensions, and one for xulapps
[20:58] <fta> do you have an install.rdf ?
[21:02]  * nxvl checks
[21:03] <nxvl> yes i have
[21:04] <fta> so it's an extenson
[21:04] <fta> you can use the xpi feature from mozilla-devscripts
[21:04] <fta> i should automagically do everything for you
[21:08] <fta> -i+it
[21:09] <fta> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Extensions
[21:12] <fta> [reed], mconnor: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/jpeg/MOZCHANGES "Lots of undocumented changes. :("  bad :(
[21:12] <[reed]> talk to glennmp
[21:12] <[reed]> oh
[21:12] <[reed]> jpeg
[21:12] <[reed]> I dunno
[21:12] <[reed]> yeah
[21:12] <[reed]> don't use system-jpeg
[21:12] <[reed]> ;)
[21:13] <fta> we don't, but we should
[21:13] <mconnor> I don't know if that's even still current
[21:13] <mconnor> that's a five year old comment, likely
[21:13] <fta> chromium took yours, so it's another copy, bad
[21:14] <mconnor> hmm
[21:14] <mconnor> neat
[21:14] <mconnor> maybe we should be the new system-jpeg :)
[21:14] <fta> yep maybe, afaik, upstream is dead
[21:15] <fta> README for release 6b of 27-Mar-1998
[21:16] <[reed]> there's a lot of good patches still in bmo for our libjpeg
[21:16] <[reed]> so, yeah, we probably are the best new owners of system jpeg
[21:16] <[reed]> :)
[21:16] <fta> my point is that if those patches are so good, they should be in system lib
[21:17] <fta> but your patches are not documented
[21:18] <[reed]> they are in bonsai ;)
[21:18] <[reed]> and bugzilla
[21:19] <fta> somewhere in zillions of bugs...
[21:22] <fta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/74007/
[21:23] <[reed]> I know our libjpeg is faster than everybody else's
[21:23] <[reed]> some smart guy at Intel worked on it
[21:23] <[reed]> :)
[21:24] <fta> with your sse/sse2/mmx code, i have no doubt about it
[23:03] <fta> individual changes are lost :( big merges from the early days
[23:39] <fta> mozilla bug 299200
[23:43] <fta> mozilla bug 1025