[04:32] <Arbiter> never broke a system
[04:32] <rami-> i made some with this soft called: alien
[04:32] <abhinay> how to set permissions to allow guest user to use disk devices (windows partitions) ..?
[04:32] <rami-> :D:D
[04:32] <rami-> it never worked
[04:32] <CarlFK> rami-: mine work
[04:32] <jrib> !ntfs > abhinay
[04:32] <Arbiter> i don't use checkinstall, alien or such ugly software
[04:32] <Arbiter> i follow the pure debian way
[04:32] <Arbiter> :D
[04:33] <Arbiter> (e.g. dealing with lots of files :P)
[04:33] <rami-> well im tryin the build-dep
[04:33] <bigfoot1> jrib the directory is -rw-rw-rw- , but still no renaming allowed in nautilus. though i can rename in terminal
[04:33] <rami-> sudo apt-get build-dep fluxbox
[04:33] <buggzero> rami- . after I have setup hd0, how do I add a win drive into the mentu
[04:33] <CarlFK> rami-: do the wine one - it is 'very simple' - even if you don't do the final install step
[04:33] <rami-> from universe source
[04:33] <tempest1> Hi, I'm having problems using vmware-player ... "Module vmnet is not loaded.  Please verify that it is loaded before running this script." When I try and run the vmware-player daemon. I've tried reinstalling vmware-player-kernel-modules and everything altogether from the latest packages. Any ideas?
[04:33] <rami-> WOOWW
[04:33] <rami-> 58 packs
[04:33] <tempest1> I've also enabled multiverse/universe repositories
[04:34] <rami-> :D
[04:34] <jrib> bigfoot1: you are the owner of the file and the directory?
[04:34] <rami-> so fluxbox will need 57 packets
[04:34] <rami-> to work
[04:34] <rami-> thats.... odd
[04:34] <skavenge> to compile
[04:34] <skavenge> not to work
[04:34] <rami-> yea to compile
[04:34] <rami-> :D
[04:34] <rami-> well i guess it wont hurt to have some packs
[04:34] <CarlFK> tempest1: is  "latest packages" what is in the ubuntu repos, or did you find some somewhere else ?
[04:34] <rami-> there we go
[04:34] <tempest1> CarlFK, Ubuntu repos
[04:34] <bigfoot1> jrib: yes i think
[04:35] <bigfoot1> jrib: maybe my nautilus is broken
[04:35] <rami-> you should not use universe source when doing: apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:35] <rami-> you will end up with unstable system :<
[04:35] <jrib> bigfoot1: close it and open it agin, maybe it needs to reread the permissions you changed
[04:35] <rami-> with cool new software!!!
[04:35] <rami-> and prolly broken apt
[04:35] <rami-> that will say ERRO ERRORR
[04:35] <jrib> !enter
[04:35] <CarlFK> tempest1: did you also enable the security repos?  I had vmware-player problems because I only had uinverse, but not the universe security updates
[04:35] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[04:35] <tempest1> CarlFK, yes
[04:35] <rami-> :[
[04:35] <bigfoot1> jrib: ok. thanks. g'nite
[04:36] <durga> 6.06 seems not to know about my soundblaster card in ISA slot...mandriva and xp see it ok...any ideas ?
[04:36] <tempest1> everything is enabled
[04:36] <Hobbsee> rami-: universe to dist-upgrade is fine - just make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed, and no unofficial repositories
[04:36] <rami-> :(
[04:36] <rami-> take a debian apt-source and upgrade from there then
[04:37] <rami-> that will brake it ;(
[04:37] <rami-> upgrade it with --force
[04:37] <rami-> export LANG=en
[04:38] <Dr4g> Can someone help me to connect to a VNC server with password?
[04:38] <Dr4g> I know the PW, my "vncviewer" client isnt working
[04:38] <rami-> how do i make export that stays over reboot?
[04:38] <DarkLegacy> What are the benefits of running Linux over Windows?
[04:38] <rami-> i hate to write two export commands always
[04:38] <rami-> when i start ubuntu
[04:38] <tempest1> Dr4g, what client are you using?
[04:38] <Dr4g> vncviewer
[04:38] <Dr4g> Hey tempest1 :P
[04:39] <tempest1> what's up :-p
[04:39] <rami-> Dr4g and the server has forwarded port?
[04:39] <Dr4g> oh shit i forgot about that
[04:39] <Dr4g> Thanks
[04:39] <rami-> haha :D
[04:39] <durga> 6.06 seems not to know about my soundblaster card in ISA slot...mandriva and xp see it ok...any ideas ?
[04:39] <Arbiter> rami-, i'm building your fluxbox-1.0rc2-0ubuntu1 package :P
[04:39] <Dr4g> What port does VNC run on ?
[04:39] <elburirenefr> ola
[04:39] <rami-> Dr4g google: PORT LIST
[04:39] <rami-> ;)
[04:39] <Dr4g> comeo n
[04:40] <rami-> i dont remember anymore :<
[04:40] <tempest1> Dr4g, I want to say 5900
[04:40] <Dr4g> just tell me :P
[04:40] <tempest1> but I'm not sure
[04:40] <rami-> id tell you
[04:40] <Arbiter> rami-, do you have an x86 right?
[04:40] <rami-> Arbiter sure
[04:40] <Arbiter> well
[04:40] <rami-> Arbiter im just not sure do i wanna take ur homemade stuff ;<
[04:40] <rami-> it could do something nasty
[04:40] <Arbiter> :P
[04:40] <rami-> like rm -rf /
[04:40] <rami-> "part of the installing procedure"
[04:40] <Arbiter> rami-, i'll upload my package to REVU
[04:40] <rami-> revu?
[04:40] <skavenge> mom always said dont take candy from strangers..
[04:41] <ketsugi> How can I change the size of the Terminal window so that it always starts up at the same size?
[04:41] <rami-> Arbiter upload it to univeral repo?
[04:41] <ketsugi> RIght now it always starts at the default size
[04:41] <rami-> ;D
[04:41] <rami-> then ill belive ya
[04:41] <tempest1> ketsugi, depends on the terminal :-p
[04:41] <ketsugi> gnome-terminal
[04:41] <rami-> aterm!
[04:41] <FunnyLookinHat> rami-, REVU is the pre-universal repo.   it's the tester repository for motu
[04:41] <Arbiter> skavenge, what do u say? stranges have always the best candies :>
[04:41] <Arbiter> *strangers*
[04:41] <rami-> REVU xD
[04:41] <rami-> !REVU
[04:41] <ubotu> REVU is a web-based tool to give people who have worked on Ubuntu packages a chance to "put their packages out there" for other people to look at and comment on in a structured manner. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU
[04:41] <skavenge> Arbiter; yeah i agree, never listened to mom anyway hah
[04:41] <rami-> :-D
[04:42] <rami-> Arbiter well when ur ready
[04:42] <tempest1> ketsugi, do you usually click a certain button to open it?
[04:42] <bic> jrib, i need to edit sources.list to enable universe. ok. the file states: uncomment the following two lines to add software from the universe. how do i do that ?
[04:42] <rami-> tell me howto get it
[04:42] <tempest1> just add a command line argument to the launcher for the geometry
[04:42] <ketsugi> tempest1: I have a launcher in my gnome-panel, yeah
[04:42] <Arbiter> rami-, wait.. i'll test it on my local machine first
[04:42] <ketsugi> oh okay
[04:42] <rami-> Arbiter ok :<
[04:42] <jrib> bic: you can also use the gui instructions if you prefer, do you see them?
[04:42] <rami-> Arbiter i already run the MAKE command in my compilations ;<
[04:42] <rami-> but not make install yet
[04:42] <Arbiter> :D
[04:42] <rami-> so i bet i can still backup ;<
[04:42] <rami-> and take the .deb
[04:43] <bic> jrib, what am i supposed to see exactly ? (please excuse me, i'm new)
[04:43] <P1N3R> can someone offer any help on installing webmin
[04:43] <Arbiter> ok, i have the .deb
[04:43] <P1N3R> ?
[04:43] <Arbiter> lemme try it
[04:43] <P1N3R> i get into the install
[04:43] <P1N3R> and it asks for the linux i am using
[04:43] <skavenge> !webmin
[04:43] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[04:43] <P1N3R> o
[04:43] <P1N3R> what can i use instead?
[04:43] <jrib> bic: are you here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu ?
[04:44] <ketsugi> thanks, tempest1
[04:44] <ketsugi> that worked
[04:44] <Arbiter> rami-, ill test my package... i'll be back soon
[04:44] <Paladine> anyone know how I get linux colors back in terminal?
[04:44] <JmGV> i have just install ubuntu
[04:44] <rami-> jrib that link isnt so good
[04:44] <bic> jrib, yes
[04:44] <rami-> it actually does not have the repos
[04:44] <rami-> it just tells you howto add them
[04:44] <rami-> and everyone knows howto add sources
[04:44] <JmGV> everything looks fine. but i cant install xserver-glx, what repository must I include in sources.list?
[04:44] <jrib> rami-: which one?
[04:44] <ketsugi> Can anyone help me sign a repo Release file? I'm having some issues.
[04:44] <skavenge> Paladine; alias ls to 'ls --color=auto'
[04:45] <jrib> bic: ok, go to section 3
[04:45] <pike_> Paladine: you have a .bashrc file in your home dir that you can add that to
[04:45] <tempest1> ketsugi, what kind of issues?
[04:45] <Arbiter> rami-, it seems to work
[04:45] <Arbiter> do u want a screenshot? :D
[04:45] <ketsugi> Well
[04:46] <rami-> Arbiter no
[04:46] <ketsugi> I signed the Release file using `gpg -bao Release.gpg Release`
[04:46] <rami-> Arbiter i want the source
[04:46] <ketsugi> and the Release.gpg file looks okay
[04:46] <ketsugi> but when I run a `sudo apt-get update`
[04:46] <ketsugi> I get this error:
[04:46] <rami-> and i dont want it to be ur homecomputers IP-address
[04:46] <rami-> that will make me suspicious
[04:46] <ketsugi> Failed to fetch http://ketsugi.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release
[04:46] <ketsugi> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[04:46] <rami-> i dont like apt-getting from someones homecomputer xD
[04:46] <ketsugi> but both the Release and Release.gpg files are there
[04:46] <Arbiter> rami-, u want source package?
[04:46] <CarlFK> rami-: I lost track - what is it you need help with?
[04:46] <ketsugi> and accessible by http
[04:47] <Arbiter> *you
[04:47] <rami-> i already have sources :D
[04:47] <skavenge> its a rootkit hiding in a package, lookout! ;)
[04:47] <rami-> Arbiter i just make:d them
[04:47] <rami-> but now
[04:47] <Arbiter> rami-, you can just wait that my GPG key is added to REVU keyring
[04:47] <rami-> its make install or ur .deb
[04:47] <Arbiter> so i can upload the package
[04:47] <[Ex0r] > will edgy be available as a complete system update ?
[04:47] <rami-> or i can just write: make install
[04:47] <tempest1> ketsugi, isn't it http://ketsugi.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/
[04:48] <rami-> Arbiter is it ok if i compiled the thing with root rights?
[04:48] <Ng> [Ex0r] : it will be just like any other ubuntu release, albeit that it's going to be more bleeding edge
[04:48] <skavenge> [Ex0r] ; im sure, just like dapper was to breezy, etc
[04:48] <rami-> i did make with root account :<
[04:48] <Arbiter> rami-, sure
[04:48] <rami-> and ./configure also
[04:48] <rami-> yay
[04:48] <Arbiter> DCC is ok? :D
[04:48] <[Ex0r] > k
[04:48] <ketsugi> "deb http://ketsugi.com/ubuntu dapper main" is the relevant sources.list entry
[04:48] <rami-> im using windows irc client
[04:48] <rami-> they dont support DCC
[04:49] <skavenge> ??
[04:49] <Arbiter> ow
[04:49] <rami-> like windows would support anything like that :-D
[04:49] <rami-> it just freezes up
[04:49] <ketsugi> um
[04:49] <rami-> xD
[04:49] <[Ex0r] > um... windows doesnt support dcc ?
[04:49] <ketsugi> mIRC's DCC works just fine
[04:49] <skavenge> they make irc  clients without dcc? thats absurd
[04:49] <rami-> no
[04:49] <[Ex0r] > every windows client i've used has
[04:49] <rami-> it says "accepting DCC"
[04:49] <rami-> and stucks there
[04:49] <Arbiter> rami-, i don't know where to place the .deb than :P
[04:49] <rami-> stupid mirc client
[04:49] <rami-> im gonna write; make install now :<
[04:49] <Arbiter> s/than/then/
[04:49] <rami-> lets see what happends
[04:50] <CarlFK> rami-: try to stay on topic - this #channel is pretty noisy as it is
[04:50] <rami-> i hope i can do make remove
[04:50] <rami-> :-D
[04:50] <ketsugi> Any ideas, tempest1?
[04:50] <Arbiter> make uninstall
[04:50] <JmGV> everything looks fine. but i cant install xserver-glx, what repository must I include in sources.list?
[04:50] <oskude> !checkinstall
[04:50] <ubotu> checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CheckInstall
[04:50] <Arbiter> it's more probabile
[04:50] <rami-> yaiks its doing something ;)
[04:50] <rami-> no errors :o
[04:50] <Arbiter> oscarh, ooooh please... checkinstall is shit :p
[04:50] <sharms> !tell JmGV about xgl
[04:50] <Seng> #ubuntu-fr
[04:50] <Arbiter> ops
[04:50] <Arbiter> it was for oskude
[04:50] <JmGV> thanks
[04:51] <Seng> hello everybody how can can i go to #ubuntu-fr ?
[04:51] <oskude> Arbiter, better than afterwards realising that the authors didnt add "make uninstall" ...
[04:51] <Arbiter> /join #ubuntu-fr
[04:51] <skavenge>  /join #ubuntu-fr
[04:51] <Seng> ok thanks
[04:51] <rami-> Arbiter GDM does not detect compiled Fluxbox?
[04:51] <Arbiter> oskude, i prefer making .debs in the debian way :D
[04:51] <bic> jrib, i don't have software properties in my administration tab =\
[04:51] <DarkLegacy> Why is Linux better than Windows?
[04:51] <Arbiter> rami-, don't know
[04:51] <alex__> is there a desktop manager like gnome? i have a 500mHz celeron cpu and my ubuntu gnome pc is very slow. icewm is slow, too!
[04:51] <jrib> bic: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:51] <Arbiter> but my deb provides a menu voice for GDM
[04:51] <pike_> alex__: xfce
[04:51] <bic> 5.04
[04:52] <tempest1> ketsugi, you probably need a Contents-i386.gz file to list what archives you ahve
[04:52] <rami-> damn ;<
[04:52] <alex__> how to install it
[04:52] <alex__> ?
[04:52] <rami-> looks like someone has to find the executable
[04:52] <rami-> for fluxbox
[04:52] <pike_> alex__: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:52] <jrib> bic: oh, you know current stable is 6.06?
[04:52] <CarlFK> alex__: have you seen xubuntu?
[04:52] <Arbiter> /usr/bin/startfluxbox
[04:52] <alex__> no
[04:52] <CarlFK> alex__: /join #xubuntu?
[04:52] <Arbiter> rami-, create a file called .xinitrc with /usr/bin/startfluxbox in your home
[04:52] <ketsugi> tempest1: I do
[04:52] <ketsugi> it's all there
[04:53] <rami-> Arbiter i dont have such thing
[04:53] <ketsugi> if I remove the .gpg file it works fine
[04:53] <Arbiter> echo "/usr/bin/startfluxbox" > .xinitrc
[04:53] <bic> oh :| didn't know taht to be quite honest. i just got the ubuntu cd from a friend
[04:53] <ketsugi> except for the authentication errors, of course
[04:53] <rami-> Arbiter dont have one
[04:53] <bic> jrib : so what should i do ?
[04:53] <Arbiter> then from the terminal run startx
[04:53] <[Ex0r] > rami-, he said make one
[04:53] <Arbiter> rami-, otherwise
[04:53] <Arbiter> wait a moment
[04:53] <[Ex0r] > gotta go get in the shower, bbl
[04:53] <jrib> bic: well you can enable universe by going to synaptic's menu > edit > repositories
[04:53] <rami-> well
[04:53] <Arbiter> you can create a .desktop file that will be recognized by GDM
[04:53] <rami-> ill just read documentation
[04:54] <rami-> maybe they tell me howto start the damn thing
[04:54] <Arbiter> rami-, or you can wait that i upload the package to REVU
[04:54] <Arbiter> :P
[04:54] <rami-> exec /usr/local/bin/fluxbox
[04:54] <freebox> Somebody have an good idea for a Enterprise/Business Consult name relationed with OpenSource/FreeSoftware?
[04:55] <orbin> what do aptitude scores mean?  i'd like to remove ekiga.  it wants to remove ub-desktop ... that's cool, but it's saying score is -301?
[04:55] <ketetha_> hey
[04:55] <ketetha_> this edubuntu desktop is pretty cool
[04:55] <Arbiter> i need to get back from gnome again
[04:56] <dabbler> I am about to change my FX5200 for a 6600GT....any special setups after I do ?
[04:56] <teroedni> dabbler nope
[04:56] <tempest1> ketsugi, you can look at this for a model: http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/
[04:56] <teroedni> will just work
[04:56] <dabbler> yay  :)
[04:56] <dabbler> tx
[04:56] <maiden30403> Hi I'm having a problem installing ubuntu on my mates laptop. It crashes on mounting filesystem
[04:57] <ketsugi> tempest1: doesn't help much. I had a working unsigned repo. Now that it's signed, it's no longer working.
[04:57] <tempest1> ketsugi, oooh
[04:57] <tuxmaniac> maiden30403> seems like a problem with your partitoons
[04:57] <tuxmaniac> maiden30403> are you able to install?
[04:57] <ketetha_> i have a quesiton
[04:57] <ketetha_> how do i access my calender and stuff
[04:57] <maiden30403> No it does this trying to boot from Livecd
[04:58] <tuxmaniac> maor during installation itself this happens
[04:58] <Arbiter> i'm back
[04:58] <tuxmaniac> maiden30403> I dont get you
[04:58] <maiden30403> When I try to boot from the disc I get the error
[04:58] <orbin> ketetha_: sys > admin > time/date
[04:59] <maiden30403> I haven't been able to install
[04:59] <Dr4g> Whats the command to upgrade from 386 to 686
[04:59] <Dr4g> -
[04:59] <sharms> DBO, gnomefreak: if I want to make a chrooted shell server how do I do it?  I am selling it
[04:59] <CarlFK> maiden30403: boot from CD or HD?
[04:59] <maiden30403> Boot from CD
[04:59] <dseomn> is there a way to make gnome-vfs-daemon disconnect from an smb share instead of waiting for it to timeout?
[04:59] <tuxmaniac> maiden30403> what error?
[04:59] <orbin> Dr4g: install the linux-686 package
[05:00] <maiden30403> I get errors coming up talking about logical error and buffer
[05:00] <tuxmaniac> hmm..
[05:00] <Some_Person> I found some hidden desktop backgrounds in Dapper!
[05:00] <tuxmaniac> Some_Person> where?
[05:00] <ketetha_> Some_Person, where?
[05:00] <Some_Person> in /usr/share/backgrounds
[05:01] <pitfall> Reinstallationof apt is not possible, it cannot be downloade
[05:01] <pitfall> d
[05:01] <pitfall> ???!
[05:01] <pitfall> anyone got a clue ?
[05:02] <frogzoo> pitfall: pls don't say you uninstalled apt
[05:02] <pitfall> frogzoo: nop
[05:02] <pitfall> =)
[05:02] <maiden30403> tuxmaniac, any ideas on what's wrong? Should I repartition with xp cd?
[05:02] <pitfall> this is the output of apt-get install --reinstall apt
[05:02] <Arbiter> omfg
[05:02] <pitfall> I'm trying to downgrade an edgy sys to dapper
[05:02] <pitfall> =)
[05:03] <ketetha_> orbin, in that place you gave me it doesnt like let me put events in :(
[05:03] <Arbiter> omfg^2
[05:03] <frogzoo> pitfall: well gl with that ;)
[05:03] <pitfall> frogzoo: =)
[05:03] <pitfall> thx
[05:03] <pitfall> I think it is impossible, too late
[05:03] <tirunculus_javae> Hi, I'm just about to get ubuntu and I just wanted to check that the Desktop version is the live cd + installer?  Or if I want to install it to the hd, should I just get the Server version?
[05:03] <tuxmaniac> maiden30403> Well. I dont understand your exact problem
[05:03] <pitfall> I got to delete everything
[05:03] <jrib> bic: did that work for you?
[05:03] <orbin> ketetha_: oh.  that calendar and stuff.  search the repositories for an application.  i don't think one is installed by deafult
[05:03] <tuxmaniac> tirunculus_javae> not now
[05:04] <tuxmaniac> tirunculus_javae> Both are now combined into a singel CD
[05:04] <tirunculus_javae> tuxmaniac: I stil see both versions online though, for version 6.06
[05:04] <tuxmaniac> tirunculus_javae> I mean both live and installer or same CDs now when you do a shipit
[05:04] <maiden30403> tuxmaniac, I'm just gonna try redoing all the partitions. I'll come back if it's still broke. Thnx for the help
[05:05] <tuxmaniac> tirunculus_javae> just boot using the live cd and you have an option once booted whetehr to install on HD which will take you through the process
[05:05] <YaH00> ,
[05:05] <tirunculus_javae> tuxmaniac: All right, thanks
[05:05] <Some_Person> I hate the new graphical installer.
[05:06] <pitfall> Some_Person: me too
[05:06] <frogzoo> will kivio run under gnome
[05:06] <pitfall> Some_Person: it crash on me
[05:06] <ketetha_> orbin, okkk thanks :)
[05:06] <ketetha_> orbin, when you say repositories you mean the paackage manager?
[05:06] <skavenge> pretty much any kde app will run on gnome
[05:06] <orbin> doesn't the alternate cd let you install via ye olde text interface?
[05:07] <skavenge> orbin; yes
[05:07] <pitfall> the new install wont install ubuntu without formating the disk
[05:07] <Dr4g> guys, what was that ubuntu commando to upgrade from 386 to 686
[05:07] <Dr4g> -
[05:07] <Some_Person> First, the new installer doesn't install everything correctly (i had to manually type "gdm" on my first boot)
[05:07] <orbin> ketetha_: well yes.  the package manager searches the repository of packages :)
[05:07] <frogzoo> Dr4g: probly just 'sudo apt-get install linux-image-686'
[05:07] <Dr4g> thanks
[05:07] <oscarh> Arbiter, u din't mean me, did you?
[05:07] <[Ex0r] > Dr4g, are you the Dr4g from dynamichell ?
[05:07] <Some_Person> Second, it installs GRUB to the MBR without asking.
[05:07] <Dr4g> Yes
[05:07] <Dr4g> Hey [Ex0r]
[05:08] <[Ex0r] > What happened with it ?
[05:08] <oscarh> Arbiter, checkinstall, something
[05:08] <skavenge> the installer is brand new this edition, and how well it works depends totally on your hardware .. i clicked a few times and it was installed with no hiccups here .. you can be sure the installer will be better in edgy
[05:08] <Dr4g> It folded once i left.
[05:08] <[Ex0r] > ah, didn't know you left.
[05:08] <Arbiter> oscarh, nono i meant another person :D
[05:08] <Dr4g> I see
[05:08] <Arbiter> don't worry
[05:08] <orbin> is removing openoffice a no-no? :)
[05:08] <oscarh> Arbiter, np
[05:08] <Arbiter> ;)
[05:08] <frogzoo> orbin: don't see why it should be a prob, buy what's wrong with oo?
[05:09] <orbin> frogzoo: i don't have any need for an office suite atm
[05:09] <[Ex0r] > Dr4g- I was hoping you guys were still together so you could help my other team out a bit.
[05:09] <Some_Person> I really want the Edgy one to ask where to install GRUB.
[05:09] <CarlFK> Dr4g: sudo apt-get install linux-686
[05:10] <YaH00> yes we are still together
[05:10] <YaH00> we are able to help
[05:10] <[Ex0r] > YaH00, you are ?
[05:10] <Some_Person> Also, I want the Ubuntu people to ShipIt the "alternate" cds.
[05:11] <YaH00> Some_Person ->  what alternate?
[05:11] <CarlFK> Some_Person: excelent ida
[05:11] <fourat> anyone is using wengophone ? it's saying that the SIP port is used, and it's not
[05:11] <Dr4g> [Ex0r] : other team?
[05:11] <Dr4g> Lets go to PM
[05:11] <Some_Person> I had to do a clean install because I couldn't get the "alternate" cd because of my dialup
[05:11] <YaH00> [Ex0r]  ->  ye.hi
[05:11] <CarlFK> Some_Person: im surprised they don't
[05:11] <tempest1> Hi, I'm having problems using vmware-player ... "Module vmnet is not loaded.  Please verify that it is loaded before running this script." When I try and run the vmware-player daemon. I've tried reinstalling vmware-player-kernel-modules and everything altogether from the latest packages. Any ideas?
[05:12] <YaH00> Some_Person ->  ubunu, kubunti,edubuntu. which more cds do yoy whant?
[05:12] <skavenge> YaH00; he's talking about the alternate install cd, text based installer
[05:12] <Some_Person> Ubuntu has something called "alternate" cds which have the old text installer and the ability to upgrade your distribution.
[05:12] <Dr4g> Say i wanna connect to myself
[05:12] <Dr4g> vncviewer -passwd mypassword <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:12] <Dr4g> Is this correct syntax ?
[05:12] <Dr4g> *
[05:12] <YaH00> skavenge ->  so what
[05:13] <[Ex0r] > Dr4g, I believe so
[05:13] <CarlFK> YaH00: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/dapper-alternate-i386.iso
[05:13] <skavenge> YaH00; it has nothing to do with what window manager comes with it
[05:13] <lauri> OI, galera.
[05:13] <Dr4g> tempest1: u know ?
[05:13] <YaH00> what the fuck is this
[05:13] <Some_Person> YaH00: Don't forget xubuntu
[05:13] <tempest1> Dr4g, call me crazy but I'd look at the manual :-p
[05:13] <[Ex0r] > !language
[05:13] <Dr4g> (16:13:03) Dr4g: Say i wanna connect to myself
[05:13] <Dr4g> (16:13:03) Dr4g: vncviewer -passwd mypassword <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:13] <Dr4g> (16:13:07) Dr4g: Is this correct syntax ?
[05:13] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:13] <Dr4g> sorry
[05:14] <[Ex0r] > Dr4g, yes, that's correct
[05:14] <Dr4g> tempest1: i am however its a tad ambigious
[05:14] <lauri> Como fao pra instalar uma impressora HP 1510 multifuncional
[05:14] <Cody> Modprobe is giving me 74% cpu usage, and I can't kill.
[05:14] <Dr4g> vncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused
[05:14] <Dr4g> Unable to connect to VNC server
[05:14] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: that yah00 guy again?  i've banned him before
[05:14] <gnomefreak> yeah
[05:14] <[Ex0r] > Dr4g, do you have vncserver running ?
[05:14] <gnomefreak> he comes back doing same stuff ill ban him ;)
[05:14] <Some_Person> If ubuntu shipit'd the alternate cds, i'd be a lot happie
[05:14] <krism> Dr4g : vnc server doesnt (usually) listen on <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:15] <Some_Person> r
[05:15] <Dr4g> krism: was an example i don't with to paste correct IP
[05:15] <lauri> Algum pode me dizer como fao isntalar impressora hp 1510 no linux?
[05:15] <krism> Dr4g : ah. are you sure the server is running? can you verify that with a port scan?
[05:15] <Dr4g> good idea :)
[05:15] <Dr4g> hold up
[05:15] <gorski> how to detect modem type?
[05:16] <Cody> Modprobe is giving me 74% cpu usage, and I can't kill.  Cheers for bein patient with me :)
[05:16] <ketsugi> killing is illegal!
[05:16] <Some_Person> Still, even with the crappy installer, UBUNTU ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:16] <krism> ketsugi : what about maiming? :)
[05:16] <lauri> Can anyone help me? I need install a HP printer in my linux ubuntu
[05:16] <Cody> I don't know, It comes back alive
[05:17] <[Ex0r] > Ah, immortals
[05:17] <ketsugi> maiming is still illegal, but I think you do less jail time
[05:17] <krism> lauri : what's the question?
[05:17] <[Ex0r] > kill the parent process that's re-running it
[05:17] <Cody> When I kill it it drops about 20%, then goes back up. What's the parent process?
[05:17] <lauri> I bought a HP printer and I need to install it?
[05:17] <bic> how can i burn .nrg images with gnomebaker ?
[05:17] <lauri> How can I install a HP printer in my linux?
[05:18] <YaH00>
[05:18] <[Ex0r] > bic, .nrg is a nero image. I don't know that you can.
[05:18] <gnomefreak> YaH00: stop now
[05:18] <Some_Person> How come in Windows my printer takes 1 hour to install the drivers when in Ubuntu the drivers are already installed?
[05:18] <fonk> Hi! Can anyone tell me if STR is supportet on 12" g4-powerbooks or is just suspend to disk working?
[05:18] <gnomefreak> YaH00: stay on topic and watch your language
[05:18] <YaH00> gmonefreak -- > what are you talking about?
[05:18] <YaH00> gmonefreak -- > ok dude
[05:18] <YaH00> gmonefreak -- > it's easy for me
[05:19] <krism> lauri : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HPPrinterInstallation
[05:19] <snoops> I'm after a project planner - something I can use to create application architecture diagrams, and project outlines etc.. suggestions?
[05:19] <DBO> snoops, try planner
[05:19] <lauri> Great, Krisn1
[05:19] <Cody> What is the parent process of modprobe?
[05:19] <sharms> snoops: dia will let you make diagrams, which I find useful, although it could be slighty more user-friendly
[05:19] <bic> is there absolutely no way i can burn .nrg images ? :(
[05:19] <YaH00> ubuntu is cool
[05:19] <YaH00> kubuntu is better
[05:20] <FunnyLookinHat> YaH00, this belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:20] <CarlFK> YaH00: cut the chatter (please)
[05:20] <narfmaster> bic, use nrg2iso
[05:20] <FunnyLookinHat> thanks gnomefreak
[05:20] <krism> bic : see Image3582974288811025297
[05:20] <krism> DD512663963787641
[05:20] <krism> Matrix5096347229312781
[05:20] <krism> Path521330818154500
[05:20] <krism> Geocode0021474836470
[05:20] <krism> ack
[05:20] <Dr4g> !paste
[05:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:20] <Cody> What is the parent process of modprobe?
[05:20] <Dr4g> :P
[05:20] <CarlFK> snoops: have you seen  "project manager" ?
[05:20] <krism> sorry, was an accidental middle click
[05:20] <Dr4g> Had to do it krism
[05:20] <krism> bic: see
[05:20] <sharms> Cody: it shouldn't have a parent process
[05:21] <krism> ah forget it, just look up "nrg2iso"
[05:21] <Cody> I didn't think so, so how can I kill it?
[05:21] <[Ex0r] > krism, that corrupts the image :\
[05:21] <bic> ok, thanks
[05:21] <krism> lol Dr4g meant to past a URL, had the wrong thing on the clipboard (obviously)
[05:21] <sharms> Cody: ps aux | grep modprobe
[05:21] <Dr4g> obviously
[05:21] <snoops> hmm not really what I'm after CarlFK
[05:21] <Dr4g> lol
[05:21] <krism> [Ex0r]  : try ccd2iso ?
[05:21] <bic> does it corrupt the image ? ;\
[05:21] <krism> ack nevermind
[05:21] <snoops> just had a look.. seems pretty 'eh'. Need something more polished
[05:21] <Cody> That doesn't work, it just drops cpu usage and goes back up
[05:21] <[Ex0r] > Didn't try that. I used nrg2iso and it made a corrupted ISO image
[05:21] <tempest1> Cody, ps aux | grep modprobe | awk '{print $2}' | xargs kill -9
[05:21] <skavenge> bic; it shouldnt, its sin the repos
[05:21] <patrick_> can anyone provide or point me to list of common/generic processes that ubuntu will have up and running by default, as there seems to be alot of HDD activity and strange slow downs (tryin to optimize Ubuntu Box)
[05:21] <[Ex0r] > I had to take the nrg to a windows machine and burn it
[05:21] <skavenge> !info nrg2iso
[05:21] <ubotu> nrg2iso: Extracts ISO9660 data from Nero ".nrg" files. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.4-1.1 (dapper), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB
[05:22] <krism> [Ex0r]  that's ok, ccd2iso converts a .ccd anyway. sheesh.
[05:22] <usama> hi all
[05:22] <krism> bic : you can try it and see if it works? :)
[05:22] <skavenge> hopefully it was compiled with largefile support in the repos, because its a pain in the arse and wont work otherwise
[05:22] <hzg> do anyone edit python project with pida 0.3.1
[05:22] <usama> i have installed dapper, when i gave command "natilus", it says bad command (that was working in breezy)? can anyone tell me why?
[05:23] <skavenge> usama; try nautilus
[05:23] <[Ex0r] > skavenge, it corrupted the .iso that I made with it. More than once.
[05:23] <CarlFK> snoops: for drawings I like dia or ... um.. the other one...
[05:23] <krism> lol skavenge beat me to it
[05:23] <Toge> hello
[05:23] <Cody> Modprobe still won't die
[05:23] <[Ex0r] > It was a very large .nrg too
[05:23] <sharms> Cody: kill -9 pidnum
[05:23] <skavenge> [Ex0r]  i could never get it to work either, always tried with full dvds and it broke
[05:23] <usama> skavenge: oh :D yes, sorry i was wrong :)
[05:23] <skavenge> np
[05:24] <snoops> the other one CarlFK?
[05:24] <Spec> i wish everyone apologized when they were wrong :)
[05:24] <Dr4g> I'm having problems - VNC Server is setup on a friends win32 machine, i've port scanned and ports open.
[05:24] <Dr4g> When he tries to connect to his own IP, conn refused, and ican't either
[05:24] <Dr4g> possible solutions
[05:24] <Dr4g> -
[05:24] <Cody> sharms: that gives me: bash: kill: pidnum: arguments must be process or job IDs
[05:24] <CarlFK> snoops: I thought there was one that was part of Open Office, but maybe that is dia
[05:24] <sharms> Cody: pidnum is the pid number, given by ps aux | grep modprobe
[05:24] <Spec> Cody: pidnum being the PID of the process you're trying to kill
[05:25] <Cody> sorry, i tryed that last night and it didn't work either
[05:25] <patrick_> can anyone provide or point me to list of common/generic processes that ubuntu will have up and running by default, as there seems to be alot of HDD activity and strange slow downs (tryin to optimize Ubuntu Box)
[05:25] <CarlFK> snoops: I like qCad, but that is proably not what you want
[05:25] <sharms> Cody: modprobe isn't a background process, it basically only runs when you run it.  It doesn't run 24/7
[05:25] <tempest1> Dr4g, I bet it's a firewall
[05:26] <Dr4g> tempest1: firewall is AOK
[05:26] <Skaag> so, I heard we're about to have non-free repositories!
[05:26] <Jeruvy> Dr4g: what if you telent onto the port do you get a response?  Is the server running?
[05:26] <poje> patrick_: there's no need to repeat, if someone has an answer they'll respond to you (personally, I would think google is your friend on that one)
[05:26] <patrick_> skaag: do we not already
[05:26] <tempest1> Dr4g, well something is blocking it on his computer
[05:26] <patrick_> ?
[05:26] <sharms> patrick_: that list exists on www.ubuntuforums.org
[05:26] <Cody> Sharms: it does for me
[05:26] <Dr4g> Jeruvy: ports open..
[05:26] <Skaag> patrick_: ah, it's started?!
[05:26] <Spec> kill -9 `ps aux |grep -i program| awk {'print $2'}`
[05:26] <bolrod> pkill
[05:26] <snoops> hmm okay thanks CarlFK
[05:27] <bolrod> pkill -9 program
[05:27] <Jeruvy> Dr4g: well connection refused means something is actively not allowing that connect.  I'd be reviewing firewall
[05:27] <krism> Dr4g : i don't know of any VNC server that will allow you to connect to yourself. maybe you can try connecting to it from another computer?
[05:27] <Dr4g> i'm not connecting to myself
[05:27] <Spec> yes, vnc will not let you connect to yourself
[05:27] <patrick_> Skaag: whats started
[05:27] <Dr4g> even by specifying external IP? not localhost
[05:27] <cbx33> is it easy to run gnome and fluxbox for example side by side?
[05:27] <Spec> Dr4g: what vnc server are you using?
[05:27] <Cody> Spec, still didn't die
[05:27] <krism> Dr4g : even by the external IP
[05:27] <Spec> Cody: is it a zombie process or something?
[05:27] <CarlFK> snoops: looking at Add/remove apps - I see kivio - a flowcharting program for the KDE Office Suite,
[05:28] <Skaag> patrick_: the repository of non-free/commercial software
[05:28] <Dr4g> krism: ok
[05:28] <patrick_> oh
[05:28] <fourat> can anyone tell me if this host is respnding to pings : ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:28] <snoops> k I'll try that out CarlFK
[05:28] <snoops> thanks
[05:28] <bic> ok, i installed nrg2iso. but where is it ? i can't find it in the menus =\
[05:28] <patrick_> skaag: I seem to have them 1 sec to confirm
[05:28] <CarlFK> snoops: openoffice.org-draw - OpenOffice.org office suite - drawing
[05:28] <patrick_> urls
[05:28] <cbx33> fourat, nope
[05:28] <snoops> I think I may have to just write an app to do exactly what I want :/
[05:28] <Spec> fourat: nope
[05:28] <Dr4g> Okay i just tried to connect..
[05:28] <Dr4g> Connection refused
[05:28] <krism> fourat : it tried to surrender to me.. *ducks*
[05:28] <Spec> bic: it's probably a command line utility
[05:28] <[Ex0r] > bic, it's a console based client. Open a terminal and type nrg2iso blah.nrg blah.iso
[05:28] <skavenge> bic; its a commandline program, you need to open a terminal
[05:29] <Spec> bic: considering how small it is (64K)
[05:29] <Dr4g> dr4g@dr4g-desktop:~$ vncviewer -passwd pass <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:29] <Dr4g> this ok ?
[05:29] <Spec> wow, that was a lot of responses :p
[05:29] <bic> oh, i see, thanks guys
[05:29] <jonah1980> join #dvdbackup
[05:29] <Spec> Dr4g: yes
[05:29] <Spec> Dr4g: have you looked at the logs of the vnc server?
[05:29] <Cody> no its not zombie at all
[05:29] <Spec> Cody: why won't it die? :-/
[05:29] <fourat> thanks all
[05:29] <[Ex0r] > Dr4g, don't you have to attach a terminal number to it as well ?
[05:29] <patrick_> skaag: for Binaries http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf
[05:29] <Dr4g> [Ex0r] : explain more.
[05:29] <poje> [Ex0r] : nope, vncviewer doesn't care
[05:29] <Skaag> patrick_: thanks man! :)
[05:29] <Spec> [Ex0r] : no, the default is probably okay
[05:30] <Cody> I don't know, but hogging cpu usage and causing it to almost over heat
[05:30] <Dr4g> Spec: its not my machine, were are logs on win32 tightvnc
[05:30] <krism> Dr4g : can you port scan that IP, or try to telnet to 5500 or 5501?
[05:30] <Dr4g> krism: yes the port is open
[05:30] <Dr4g> 5900 is default port
[05:30] <patrick_> skaag: For Source http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf
[05:30] <Spec> Dr4g: How am I supposed to know? I know where the logs are in linux... :)
[05:30] <Dr4g> hehe spec
[05:30] <bertu> Can someone tell me a p2p program?
[05:30] <krism> Dr4g : whoops, 5500 is default for a listening viewer, sorry ;)
[05:30] <gorski> how to create .deb files?
[05:30] <Spec> bertu: frostwire
[05:30] <Dr4g> :)
[05:30] <Spec> bertu: limewire, gnutella,
[05:30] <skavenge> limewire, frostwire, amule, etc etc
[05:31] <skavenge> !p2p
[05:31] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network). BitTorrent: see !torrent Direct connect: try valknut
[05:31] <krism> Dr4g : then i'd suspect the VNC server is not running, or perhaps your friend has a misconfigured router
[05:31] <bic> i have the nrg image on the mounted ntfs partition =\ can i move or copy it here on ubuntu ?
[05:31] <Spec> gorski: there's a great how-to .... ask for it perhaps in #ubuntu-motu
[05:31] <Dr4g> its not a router - direct connection
[05:31] <patrick_> bertu: what u want recommendations or problem with existing p2p app
[05:31] <Dr4g> and setup server appropriately
[05:31] <Dr4g> as server is listening on port 5900
[05:31] <bertu> recommandation
[05:31] <[Ex0r] > bic you can but it's not advised
[05:31] <netbrain> hi guys, i need some assistance. Ive just bought a brand new external usb harddrive. does anyone have a suggestion of what kind of filesystem i could use, so that the harddrive would be accessible by both windows and linux out of the box?vfat doesnt support large files, and with ntfs there is a risk of destroying the filesystem under linux. is there any one else?
[05:31] <poje> krism: are you sure port forwarding is set up correctly?
[05:31] <[Ex0r] > Dr4g, try just vncviewer <ip>
[05:31] <krism> poje : ?
[05:31] <[Ex0r] > than when it prompts for password put it in
[05:31] <Cody> Can some else tell me how much, if at all, modprobe is using of cpu usage for them
[05:31] <patrick_> bertu: FrostWire
[05:31] <phocus> what pakage can i install to get xlibs? cedega is saying that it needs it
[05:31] <skavenge> netbrain; fat32
[05:31] <poje> krism: is your friend behind a router?
[05:31] <Spec> bic: copying is just fine
[05:31] <Spec> bic: it's writing to ntfs that's risky
[05:32] <stefg> netbrain: there are ext2fs drivers for win
[05:32] <orbin> netbrain: ext3 + ext3 driver for windows
[05:32] <krism> poje: you're looking for Dr4g, not me. :)
[05:32] <bertu> using apt-get?
[05:32] <patrick_> bertu: Limewire (Identical)
[05:32] <[Ex0r] > Dr4g, btw, -passwd <password> is invalid
[05:32] <Spec> frostwire > limewire
[05:32] <Dr4g> i knew it
[05:32] <bertu> but using apt-get function?
[05:32] <Dr4g> [Ex0r] : so whats syntax to connect with a PW
[05:32] <skavenge> lime/frostwire needs java installed as well if you havent done that ...
[05:32] <Spec> Dr4g: use vncpasswd to make a file with a vnc password
[05:32] <Spec> Dr4g: then point -passwd to that file
[05:32] <poje> krism: bah, sorry ;(
[05:33] <netbrain> orbin: yes i used that at first. but when the usbdisk is automaticly mounted in xfce, a normal user doesnt have write access to a journaling file system.
[05:33] <netbrain> ext3
[05:33] <Dr4g> spec thanks ill try that now
[05:33] <[Ex0r] > Dr4g, -passwd is used to specify the path where the password file is, not the password itself
[05:33] <Spec>  Dr4g although, i'm fairly certain -passwd foobar should work, assuming the passwd is foobar
[05:33] <patrick_> bertu: cant think what other p2p apps except maybe Gnomoradio Music Player
[05:33] <Spec> [Ex0r] : i believe it can be used for both
[05:33] <[Ex0r] > Spec, not what the man page says
[05:33] <bertu> how can i download it
[05:33] <orbin> netbrain: i think that can be easily resolved by editing fstab?
[05:33] <poje> Dr4g: is your friend's router port forwarding the vnc port?
[05:33] <bertu> limewire
[05:33] <[Ex0r] >  -passwd password-file
[05:33] <[Ex0r] >               If  you  are on a filesystem which gives you access to the pass
[05:33] <[Ex0r] >               word file used by the server, you can specify it here  to  avoid
[05:33] <[Ex0r] >               typing it in.  It will usually be "~/.vnc/passwd".
[05:33] <[Ex0r] > whoops
[05:33] <Dr4g> poje - no router
[05:33] <Spec> [Ex0r] : perhaps, but i believe i used a passwd in that field a week ago and it worked
[05:33] <phocus> what pakage can i install to get xlibs? cedega is saying that it needs it
[05:33] <Spec> i could be wrong though, it doesn't hurt to try
[05:34] <netbrain> orbin: yes, but i dont want to use fstab
[05:34] <poje> Dr4g: and you're sure the server is installed and running properly
[05:34] <krism> (waiting for the !paste, hehe)
[05:34] <h3sp4wn> Any one got any ideas why the initrd is not includes into the deb when I use make-kpkg clean && make-kpkg --revision=$(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot clean && make-kpkg --revision=$(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot --initrd kernel_image modules_image kernel_source kernel_headers ?
[05:34] <patrick_> Gnomoradio Music Player is avail on apt
[05:34] <Spec> although normally vncviewer will tell you authentication failed, instead of connection timed out if your password is incorrect/formatted cincorrectly
[05:34] <netbrain> orbin: it has to be wrirable through xfce automounter
[05:34] <skavenge> bertu; frostwire is the same and free .. 'sudo apt-get install frostwire'
[05:34] <Dr4g> [Ex0r] : wheres the default location for the passwd file
[05:34] <mattnash> Hi folks, I am trying to configure winbind and samba to allow authentication against my AD servers, according to the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ActiveDirectoryWinbindHowto
[05:34] <[Ex0r] > ~/.vnc/passwd
[05:34] <Dr4g> ty
[05:34] <mattnash> I can get a krb ticket with kinit
[05:35] <krism> Dr4g : try it without the password - just do "vncviewer IP", it will prompt you
[05:35] <bertu> sry
[05:35] <patrick_> bertu: google either LimeWire or FrostWire should be first page....real straight forward to install
[05:35] <bertu> ok
[05:35] <mattnash> but when I try to log in with an AD user, I get "incorrect password or invalid membership" in the logs.
[05:35] <Spec> bertu: frostwire is better and more free than limewire
[05:35] <Dr4g> krism: still connection refused
[05:35] <bertu> 10x
[05:35] <Jeruvy> Dr4g: I concur I don't believe the server is running or responding.
[05:35] <patrick_> yeah support FrostWire
[05:35] <Spec> bertu: free as in speech, that is, not as in beer. they are equally free as in beer
[05:35] <krism> Dr4g : at this point i would seriously question the server install :-/
[05:35] <bertu> ok 10x
[05:36] <patrick_> its openSource Minded
[05:36] <Dr4g> krism: Jeruvy Spec and so on
[05:36] <Dr4g> Thanks for your self
[05:36] <Spec> Dr4g: good luck :p
[05:36] <sarixe> anyone know if i can install an x86 ubuntu over an amd64 ubuntu?  I need to keep all my settings, but the compatibility with programs is absolutely nonexistent.
[05:36] <[Ex0r] > Dr4g, me too. You should either A.) Check to make sure it's running and listening on a default port. (ps aux |grep vncserver or check to make sure it's configured properly
[05:37] <Spec> [Ex0r] : it's on a win32 box
[05:37] <Spec> [Ex0r] : the 'ps' and 'grep' commands are not able to be found in windows
[05:37] <[Ex0r] > ah
[05:37] <Spec> maybe if you use cygwin though :p
[05:37] <Dr4g> it is listening
[05:37] <Dr4g> i nmapped
[05:37] <Dr4g> ONONnononono the guys a half-newb
[05:37] <Spec> Dr4g: that means the port is open
[05:37] <Dr4g> i wouldnt want to fry his brain
[05:37] <Spec> Dr4g: doesn't mean the server's up
[05:37] <Dr4g> oh
[05:38] <Dr4g> so it listens even when u don't choose "setup server" or whatever
[05:38] <Jeruvy> Dr4g: exactly, just because the port is open doesn't mean anyones home :)
[05:38] <Dr4g> thats unsecure
[05:38] <[Ex0r] > Dr4g, who were you referring to with half-noob ?
[05:38] <Spec> Dr4g: we're talking about windows, right?
[05:38] <Spec> Dr4g: :)
[05:38] <Dr4g> someone on MSN
[05:38] <eitch0000> is there some package I can install to watch wmv's?
[05:38] <[Ex0r] > ah :)
[05:38] <Dr4g> Spec: yes i don't have windows installed so i can't check it out
[05:38] <[Ex0r] > !restricted
[05:38] <teknoprep> sooo
[05:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:38] <Dr4g> wait.. i have a w32 machine behind me
[05:38] <teknoprep> why ubuntu over kubuntu?
[05:38] <teknoprep> are they the same except for kde?
[05:38] <Spec> teknoprep: yes
[05:39] <patrick_> Toteem works with me for WMV
[05:39] <sarixe> does anyone know if it's okay to just install ubuntu x86 over amd64, without wiping the partition first?
[05:39] <Spec> teknoprep: you can intall minimal ubuntu and get kubuntu by doing: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, you can also: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, or even: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop, and i believe you can even: apt-get install edubuntu-desktop
[05:39] <skavenge> sarixe; i dont know but i doubt it .. seems like it would likely break
[05:39] <sarixe> k
[05:40] <Spec> sarixe: seems like it should work?
[05:40] <damotor> Hi
[05:40] <Spec> sarixe: x86 on amd64 works, it's just suckier
[05:40] <phocus> what pakage can i install to get xlibs? cedega is saying that it needs it
[05:40] <fiXXXerMet> Could anyone recommend a ubuntu 6.06 Server mirror?  The ones at ubuntu.com are only putting out ~70K.  A bittorrent, or something?
[05:40] <sarixe> so how would i get my settings over to a new x86 installation?
[05:40] <Spec> sarixe: i could be wrong :)
[05:40] <damotor> how can I move files from my pc to my ipaq?
[05:40] <patrick_> sarixe: have a backup if u have to do it
[05:40] <patrick_> or just DL 64bit version
[05:40] <sarixe> spec: amd64 is too new for developers, it seems.  i can't stand not having flash and java anymore.
[05:41] <orbin> fiXXXerMet: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[05:41] <skavenge> sarixe; id backup your home directory since thats where most your desktop config etc is saved, clean install and replace the home dir
[05:41] <sarixe> right
[05:41] <sarixe> o
[05:41] <sarixe> ok*
[05:41] <sarixe> i'll do that.
[05:41] <patrick_> ah
[05:41] <fiXXXerMet> Thank you.
[05:42] <Spec> quick! who needs help? :)
[05:42] <bertu> Can someone tell me how to display the processses that are running?
[05:42] <patrick_> sarixe: how about just running of a LiveCD till they catch up, should'nt take long
[05:42] <phocus> i nned help
[05:42] <col-panic> quick question: if I upgrade all my xorg packages in breezy, will I get the same ver. as dapper?
[05:42] <orbin> bertu: top
[05:43] <phocus> i nned help
[05:43] <bertu> top?
[05:43] <phocus> what pakage can i install to get xlibs? cedega is saying that it needs it
[05:43] <col-panic> i heard dapper had the 3d accel for my card
[05:43] <Seveas> phocus, cedega people have to get their act together
[05:43] <col-panic> xlibs huh phocus?
[05:43] <orbin> bertu: actually, ps aux maybe
[05:43] <col-panic> brb
[05:43] <phocus> ya, i cant find it
[05:43] <phocus> et.net]  has joined #ubuntu
[05:43] <bertu> i didnt understand u
[05:44] <col-panic> phocus: apt-get install xlibs
[05:44] <orbin> bertu: they're commands you can type in the terminal: 'top' and 'ps aux'
[05:44] <col-panic> :D
[05:44] <Spec> bertu: you wanted to know how to monitor processes?
[05:44] <phocus> no package xlibs
[05:44] <bertu> yes
[05:44] <col-panic> make sure you got all your repositories installed
[05:44] <col-panic> I got it on breezy
[05:44] <orbin> bertu: you can use gnome's system monitor if you're more into guis
[05:44] <bertu> ok
[05:44] <teknoprep> hmm
[05:44] <Spec> bertu: I think a really cool one is "htop", but you'll need to install it, and run it from the commandline.
[05:44] <col-panic> i added all my repos on dialup, Im patient :)
[05:44] <Spec> !htop
[05:44] <col-panic> btw, which cedega ver. # you got?
[05:44] <ubotu> I know nothing about htop - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:44] <patrick_> must be really patient man
[05:45] <patrick_> lots of stuff I mean lots
[05:45] <col-panic> patrick_, only thing I wont do on dialup is dist-upgrade
[05:45] <phocus> not sure
[05:45] <orbin> Spec: !info <package>
[05:45] <phocus> deb package
[05:45] <col-panic> I hear dapper's list is bigger *eep*
[05:45] <col-panic> heh
[05:45] <patrick_> yeah That would make me cry
[05:45] <col-panic> probably 5.2.1
[05:46] <col-panic> i think thats current, Im still at 5.1.3 because (no real reason)
[05:46] <col-panic> just wish I had dapper already so I could add 3d accel to this card :S
[05:46] <patrick_> col-panic@: Dial-up still great to fall back on
[05:46] <col-panic> patrick_, cable company goes everywhere around me but here
[05:46] <col-panic> this is a fork in a long road, and the other fork gets cable even though its farther :|
[05:47] <patrick_> yeah they wont provide me with anymore than 1.1mbts
[05:47] <patrick_> entitled to 8 but seagate hog the exchange
[05:47] <ccn> how would one adjust your video screens brightness, i need to make things brighter as my monitor isnt too great. i can do this in windows and it works great so i would presume i can in ubuntu as well?
[05:48] <phocus> xvidtune
[05:48] <patrick_> hhmmmm
[05:48] <phocus> or , there is a knob on the inside of your monitor, if you take off the back pannel, that will make it brigter
[05:48] <patrick_> lol
[05:48] <ccn> haha
[05:48] <ccn> if i could make it brighter there, i would have :p
[05:48] <patrick_> dont do that
[05:48] <rami-> !adding fluxbox to gdm
[05:48] <ubotu> I know nothing about adding fluxbox to gdm - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[05:48] <rami-> damn M<
[05:48] <patrick_> glow in the dark after that
[05:49] <rami-> bad bot BAD BOT!
[05:49] <lordhedgie> Heya all, having trouble with a Wifi connection....  NDISWrappers installed, and it correctly finds the ESSID, Channel, etc., but it says signal strength zero.
[05:49] <bertu> hey can someone tell me from where i can download drivers for my creative live 24 bit?
[05:49] <Spec> Seveas: is -ops a restricted channel?
[05:49] <patrick_> do creative not provide those on ther site
[05:49] <jrib> rami-: have you checked fluxbox faq?
[05:50] <bertu> so what can i do?
[05:50] <Spec> lordhedgie: what card?
[05:50] <rami-> jrib tryin
[05:50] <rami-> jrib with not so good success
[05:50] <patrick_> bertu: 1sec
[05:50] <jrib> rami-: http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/docs/en/faq.php#gdm
[05:50] <rami-> .xsessions and .xinitrc
[05:50] <bertu> because i have 5.1 spks and only from 2 spks comes out sone
[05:50] <bertu> *sound
[05:50] <rami-> those should be in my home folder
[05:50] <rami-> YEA RIGHT
[05:50] <rami-> their not ;<
[05:50] <lordhedgie> Its a USB card from Dell.  I was using it in Mandriva with NDISWrapper and DELLNIC.INF, but I think its a PRISM chipset.
[05:50] <jrib> rami-: you can create them
[05:50] <Spec> bertu: that's a pain to get to work, unfortunately :-/
[05:51] <bertu> ok just leave it
[05:51] <rami-> jrib wich should i create?
[05:51] <patrick_> yeah it seems so in google anyhow
[05:51] <lordhedgie> I used ndisgtk to load the same INF file that worked in Mandriva, and it says it worked...  Just won't community
[05:51] <rami-> .xsessions
[05:51] <rami-> thx
[05:51] <jrib> rami-: neither if you want a gdm session file
[05:51] <lordhedgie> s/community/communicate/
[05:51] <Spec> unless he uses xmms, in which case it's easy ..... too bad he quit :p
[05:51] <rami-> jrib how bout KDM?
[05:51] <jrib> rami-: that's the next question in the faq
[05:52] <Spec> lordhedgie: well, i don't know, you can't get an IP?
[05:52] <patrick_> Is Firefox 2 out yet?
[05:52] <ccn> phocus: what in xvidtune has to do with brightness?
[05:52] <lordhedgie> Spec -- Nope.  It says the link quality is zero, doesn't light up the card
[05:52] <Spec> lordhedgie: but it auto-gets the ESSID?
[05:52] <lordhedgie> Spec -- But it can scan and see the network -- just shows it zero strength
[05:53] <Spec> lordhedgie: that's unfortunate, i don't know ... :-/
[05:53] <lordhedgie> Spec -- Actually I put the ESSID in, and it got the MAC and channel automatically
[05:53] <rami-> cannot even get the KDM to be my default boot manager :I
[05:53] <jrib> rami-: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[05:54] <Spec> lordhedgie: well, if it got the mac that means it's seeing packets
[05:54] <rami-> jrib i know
[05:54] <rami-> i set it kdm
[05:54] <Spec> lordhedgie: i dont' know what i'd do though, perhaps try setting the rate to 11M: iwconfig <interface> rate 11M
[05:54] <lordhedgie> Spec.  Yeah, I know.  I'm stumped.   In repository universe, is optional. Version 2.5 (dapper), package size 9 kB, installed size 76 kB
[05:57] <rami-> wont work
[05:57] <lordhedgie> Spec: I'm stumped.  I've gotten this to work with the same drivers in lots of other distros, but it's just mumpfing me right now.
[05:57] <rami-> wont work!!!!
[05:57] <rsk> 8(
[05:57] <rami-> DAMN
[05:57] <soccio> Hi
[05:57] <rami-> its stuck at tty2
[05:57] <rami-> i hate this
[05:57] <Spec> lordhedgie: same drivers? hmm, what about the version of ndiswrapper?
[05:57] <lordhedgie> Spec: Same drivers, don't know about ndiswrapper.
[05:58] <Spec> lordhedgie: dpkg -l ndiswrapper
[05:58] <Spec> or maybe ndiswrapper-utils
[05:58] <Spec> or maybe ndiswrapper*, since apparantly -l supports wildcards :)
[05:58] <patrick_> does anyone know a quick instant kind of way to get on Usenet without using my browser
[05:58] <interfear> how do i convert a dvd iso into a divx?
[05:58] <abhinay> hey, u can request DVDs of any distro at  http://free.thelinuxstore.ca/   for  FREE
[05:58] <rsk> interfear, with mencoder
[05:59] <interfear> cool ill check it out..
[05:59] <patrick_> i lack the config knowledge and most are paid
[05:59] <lordhedgie> Spec: It says it can't find any packages.
[05:59] <col-panic> peace
[05:59] <jrib> patrick_: google groups
[05:59] <jrib> patrick_: erm http://groups.google.com/ (not google for 'groups')
[05:59] <Spec> lordhedgie: hmm, i don't know how to check the version of the ndiswrapper that's in the kernel
[05:59] <skavenge> or install PAN
[05:59] <patrick_> without webbrowser
[05:59] <patrick_> is it preconfigured
[06:00] <patrick_> like xchat-gnome
[06:00] <patrick_> all i hadto do with that was put my name in
[06:00] <lordhedgie> Spec: Me neither.  Is there a way to make lsmod do it?
[06:00] <skavenge> Spec; its 1.8
[06:01] <Spec> lordhedgie: well then, do you happen to know the version on mandrake? :)
[06:01] <Spec> or mandriva or whatever
[06:01] <wongy> hi all!  has anyone else had network-manager stop working after upgrading to dapper?
[06:01] <wongy> my Intel ipw2100 wireless NIC no longer seems to work properly
[06:01] <kbrosnan> patrick_, Firefox 2 is due out around mid September, Beta 1 was just released by mozilla yesterday.
[06:01] <lordhedgie> Spec: No, so I'm not sure it would help. :)  But I first used the card a few years ago on Mandrake, the FC3, and the October 2005 release of Mandriva.
[06:02] <pike_> someone know offhand where firefox stores the hompage setting in .firefox?
[06:02] <torpedo|dog> patrick_: there's no real way to preconfigure it, since your settings are provided by your ISP normally.
[06:02] <wongy> network manager tells me there are NO network devices when in Breezy it showed both the wireless and ethernet
[06:02] <kbrosnan> pike_, user.js
[06:02] <lordhedgie> wongy: Do you use ndiswrapper for your wireless?
[06:03] <rami-> shit i need to close my xserver >:[
[06:03] <rami-> but i dont know howto use konsole process managers
[06:03] <wongy> lordhedgie: no, just the kernel ipw2100 module
[06:03] <rami-> like top
[06:03] <POVaddct> lordhedgie: for ipw2100 ndiswrapper is not needed
[06:03] <pike_> kbrosnan: ah ty
[06:03] <lordhedgie> wongy: Lucky... I'm fighting ndis right now. :(
[06:04] <wongy> lordhedgie: oh, good luck.  The Intel 2100 works quite well, generally.
[06:04] <lordhedgie> Wongy: I
[06:04] <lordhedgie> Wongy: I've gotten the module installed, and I can talk to the card.  It sees the network, but won't join it.
[06:05] <wongy> lordhedgie: try turning off WEP/WPA until you get connected
[06:05] <fdsd> lordhedgie, tomorrow I can
[06:05] <asabil> hmmm
[06:05] <asabil> how do i burn the ubuntu iso from osx ?
[06:06] <fdsd> asabil, right click on it and open with disk utility
[06:06] <Spec> asabil: any program that has the ability to burn ISOs will do it
[06:06] <lordhedgie> wongy: They're off.
[06:06] <asabil> actually disk utility crashes
[06:06] <fdsd> asabil, then do an archive and install on your macosx machine
[06:06] <Spec> wongy: would you say it's the best? I've heard marvel(l?) is good
[06:06] <fdsd> asabil, what version of osx?
[06:06] <asabil> ???
[06:06] <asabil> 10.4.6
[06:07] <rami-> jrib LIKE THOSE WILL HELP WITH UBUNTU
[06:07] <rami-> thanks very much
[06:07] <Spec> The 100$ laptop made by Negroponte uses a marvell chip for wireless, and they're doing complex mesh-network stuff with it. 60 meter range is what i've heard....
[06:07] <fdsd> asabil, yeah, take your tiger disk, stick it in, reboot, Hold down c, and select archive and install from the options menu, it will fix it
[06:07] <wongy> spec: no idea but this is built-in to my laptop
[06:07] <Spec> wongy: well, i've heard intel's chipsets are pretty good with linux, as well :)
[06:07] <wongy> Spec: sounds impressive.
[06:08] <asabil> fix what ?
[06:08] <fdsd> asabil, disk utility
[06:08] <asabil> is it broken ?
[06:08] <fdsd> asabil, is it crashing?
[06:08] <wongy> Spec: they have been providing good support for their wireless through their ipw2100.sf.net project
[06:08] <pitfall> re
[06:08] <asabil> the progress bar statys at 0
[06:09] <FunnyLookinHat> Intel Wireless is AWESOME
[06:09] <asabil> i canceled a burning
[06:09] <fdsd> asabil, what progress bar?
[06:09] <FunnyLookinHat> As is intel video support for liniux.
[06:09] <asabil> and found that the dvd got burned
[06:09] <pitfall> could not open default font 'fixed' => anyone canhelp me ?
[06:09] <Spec> wongy: intel is the winner then :)
[06:09] <asabil> the one displayed while burning an iso
[06:09] <pitfall> what am I missing ?
[06:09] <Tmob> FunnyLookinHat, dont agree
[06:09] <fdsd> asabil, well, who knows then
[06:09] <Tmob> FunnyLookinHat, i can't get suspend/resume tow ork properly with intel 915
[06:09] <Tmob> FunnyLookinHat, do you happen to use intel?
[06:09] <FunnyLookinHat> pitfall, sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
[06:10] <lordhedgie> Does Ubuntu have a GUI for wireless configuration?
[06:10] <FunnyLookinHat> Tmob, I have intel 910.
[06:10] <wongy> Spec: yep kudos to them
[06:10] <lordhedgie> Beyond the network settings tool, I mean.
[06:10] <wongy> lordhedgie: through System > Admin > networking
[06:10] <FunnyLookinHat> Though I have never used suspend resume...  except for closing the screen and whatnot, and that worked out of the box with dapper
[06:10] <Tmob> FunnyLookinHat, suspend/resume works?
[06:10] <Spec> i've seen suspend/resume work just fine on a laptop with ubuntu-dapper
[06:10] <FunnyLookinHat> Tmob, afaik.
[06:10] <soundray> pitfall: try installing x-window-system-core as well as what FunnyLookinHat says
[06:11] <rami-> fucking fuck i need to keel the xserver
[06:11] <Tmob> FunnyLookinHat, yea when i close the screen.. and re-open it gets stuck
[06:11] <Tmob> the screen just is blank
[06:11] <wongy> lordhedgie: it is supposed to look after wireless too.  Maybe you should try installing network-manager and network-manager-gnome
[06:11] <FunnyLookinHat> Tmob, oh yea that works great for me
[06:11] <Tmob> oh really! :(
[06:11] <pitfall> FunnyLookinHat: soundray thx
[06:11] <Spec> It works out-of-the-box with ease with a LinuxCertified laptop (not sure about how good/worth the price is though)
[06:11] <FunnyLookinHat> Tmob, try changing your screensaver settings once, that may be it
[06:11] <wongy> rami-: ctrl-alt-backspace
[06:11] <pitfall> FunnyLookinHat: soundray I'm downgrading an edgysystem =)
[06:11] <rami-> wongy its just RESTART
[06:11] <rami-> i need to KEEL it!
[06:11] <pitfall> so, wservercore wasinstalled
[06:11] <rami-> for good
[06:11] <pitfall> but no more xfonts-core
[06:11] <pitfall> everything is ok for now;)
[06:11] <pitfall> thx for the feedback
[06:11] <soundray> pitfall: better to reinstall...
[06:12] <poje> What would be the best way to try and recover the data on my friend's external HD? Under windows it shows as not being formatted and I can't get it to mount under linux (tried autorecognizing the fs and using vfat) - according to the friend nothing wiped it, so I'm guessing the partition table is foobarred and I don't really have experience fixing em
[06:12] <FunnyLookinHat> pitfall, oh gross!
[06:12] <rami-> i need to change my default runlevel!
[06:12] <FunnyLookinHat> pitfall, yea you should just save your /home partition if you hvae one and reinstall
[06:12] <pitfall> soundray: I don't thinkso ;)
[06:12] <Tmob> FunnyLookinHat, turn off screensaver?
[06:12] <lordhedgie> Wongy -- I'll see if they're installed
[06:12] <Tmob> FunnyLookinHat, i have blank screen after a while..
[06:12] <pitfall> FunnyLookinHat: hmmm, it is amusing ;)
[06:12] <pitfall> =)
[06:12] <pitfall> but thx
[06:12] <rami-> inittab!
[06:12] <pitfall> Iallready got a backup
[06:12] <pitfall> =)
[06:13] <soundray> poje: to fix partition tables, try gpart (do not confuse with gparted)
[06:13] <soundray> !info gpart
[06:13] <ubotu> gpart: Guess PC disk partition table, find lost partitions. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.1h-4 (dapper), package size 34 kB, installed size 112 kB
[06:13] <FunnyLookinHat> Tmob, well, or change the default SS that it uses.    : )   It could very well be the Dell motherboard
[06:14] <FunnyLookinHat> 's integration with the graphics
[06:14] <Tmob> hmm?
[06:14] <Tmob> are they infamous already?
[06:14] <Tmob> hehe
[06:14] <ghostinshell> Is there a graphical tool to configure SAMBA?
[06:14] <rami-> what
[06:14] <FunnyLookinHat> I've had better luck with my IBM than Dell, that's for sure.  : )
[06:14] <rami-> happen
[06:14] <rami-> NO
[06:15] <rami-> i broke it
[06:15] <rami-> damn
[06:15] <lens> hey guys, I have a very important question... can I make a desktop privilages account that will absolutely NOT connect to the Internet?
[06:15] <FunnyLookinHat> rami-, ?    Please  don't flood the channel with emotional outbursts   : )
[06:15] <rami-> :[
[06:15] <rami-> its mean!
[06:15] <stefg> !enter
[06:15] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[06:15] <FunnyLookinHat> lens, I'm sure you can.  Try googling for restricting user accounts on linux
[06:16] <rami-> !enter
[06:16] <tyler_> can anyone help me with a problem I have
[06:16] <pitfall> hmmm
[06:16] <soundray> !anyone
[06:16] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:16] <pitfall> it is working ;)
[06:16] <Tmob> lens, i use windows in such an environment in a vmware VM
[06:16] <pitfall> nice
[06:16] <pitfall> I'm back to dapper=)
[06:16] <Spec> lens: hmm, interesting problem, that's one i've never worked on
[06:16] <rami-> damn i need to add Fluxbox into my GDM
[06:16] <rami-> or kdm
[06:16] <Spec> lens: I don't now how you'd do it with iptables though, ...
[06:16] <FunnyLookinHat> tyler_, go ahead and ask the question, if someone knows the answer we'll help  : )
[06:17] <teknoprep> does gnome support transparencies?
[06:17] <teknoprep> like kde?
[06:17] <ratorro> hola
[06:17] <teknoprep> eye candy is nice
[06:17] <FunnyLookinHat> teknoprep, as far as I know, it only does if you install XGL and Compiz
[06:17] <stefg> rami-: it should be there automatically, could be that sudo dpkg-reconfigure fluxbox solves it
[06:18] <Spec> teknoprep: i think kde does fake transparency, is that true?
[06:18] <FunnyLookinHat> teknoprep, if you want help with that (it's cool once you get it! but can be  abear to install) try #ubuntu-xgl
[06:18] <lens> my scenario is... to keep stuff safe... I could have an account that would never connect to the internet, and then import docs that have passed the security test to this account... BUT, this account could still be compromised and they could get to any of my data... what about encrypting it in the non-internet account and THEN importing it?
[06:18] <teknoprep> Spec: no its true
[06:18] <Spec> teknoprep: so it'll render the application B behind application A?
[06:18] <Foobal> lens: eat more prozac, lens
[06:18] <tyler_> Ok, I cannot suspend right in my laptop. Every time I try it suspends correctly. but when I try to boot back up there is only a small box of visibility on my screen. I cannot access anything because all I see is the middle of the screen. The rest of the screen is black, so I have to restart my computer to get it working again
[06:18] <lens> Foobal, what?
[06:18] <teknoprep> Spec:  yes
[06:18] <Spec> teknoprep: or just be transparent through the desktop?
[06:18] <teknoprep> want a screenshot?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. I just realized this box actually has a floppy drive. :) what was the command to make a 'emergancy boot floppy' been ages since i last had a floppy drive.
[06:19] <Linuturk> is there a good system info summary program?
[06:19] <Spec> teknoprep: sure :), i dont use kde but that sounds cool -- i've always thought XGL or equivalent would be required
[06:19] <rami-> init 0
[06:19] <soundray> tyler_: have you tried switching to a text console with Ctrl-Alt-F1, and back with Alt-F7?
[06:19] <lens> Foobal seriously, I am VERY curious as to what you mean "eat more prozac"?
[06:20] <tyler_> no, I will try that, but will I have to do that every time i suspend it
[06:20] <teknoprep> Spec: http://wowpvp.hopto.org/snapshot1.png
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> prozac = medicine for people with mental disorder.
[06:20] <teknoprep> hmm
[06:20] <teknoprep> i'll be back i need to install ubuntu
[06:20] <teknoprep> i am sick of kde
[06:21] <lens> hmm, that's a dumb thing to say... I'm into security.
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> i perfer kde.  :)
[06:21] <teknoprep> and sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop isn't working
[06:21] <teknoprep> kde blows
[06:21] <teknoprep> too many errors
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> people who say things blow, blow. :)
[06:21] <teknoprep> no it blows
[06:21] <soundray> tyler_: there is a way to automate that, by editing the appropriate resume script in /etc/acpi -- add "chvt 1; chvt 7" or similar in there.
[06:21] <teknoprep> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:21] <teknoprep>   ubuntu-desktop: Depends: libglib2.0-data but it is not going to be installed
[06:21] <FunnyLookinHat> teknoprep, we appreciate your oppinions but they belong in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:21] <Dr_Willis> thats odd.. thats a MAIN library
[06:22] <teknoprep> thats the error i get when i try and install ... sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop... from inside kubuntu
[06:22] <teknoprep> any idea?
[06:22] <gnomefreak> teknoprep: are you on dapper?
[06:22] <teknoprep> yup
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> perhaps a repo you are using has issues..
[06:22] <soundray> lens: you would do well to inform yourself about what the real risks are which you expose yourself to by using an internet-connected computer running Ubuntu.
[06:22] <theapoc> What app is best for burning a CD to ISO image?
[06:22] <soundray> !burn
[06:22] <ubotu> CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, serpentine, graveman Nautilus cd burner (Gnome), gtoaster, xcdroast, cdrecord (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BurningIsoHowto
[06:23] <lens> "eat more prozac lens" isn't exactly on topic... I have a legit question
[06:23] <h3sp4wn> thearpoc: cdrecord is pretty good
[06:23] <teknoprep> k3b
[06:23] <teknoprep> owns
[06:23] <lens> soundray:  yeah, 99% of security breaches are the users fault.
[06:23] <soundray> lens: I agree with you. That response was not in the usual spirit of this channel.
[06:23] <h3sp4wn> thearpoc: Actually you want the other way round use dd
[06:23] <john> hi there, does anyone have experiance with qemu/kqemu where i can ask afew questions
[06:23] <teknoprep> Spec:  you check that out?
[06:23] <Spec> no
[06:23] <soundray> lens: and 88.2% of all statistics are made up on the spot.
[06:23] <Cntryboy> Anyone here ever used f4l flash maker
[06:23] <h3sp4wn> thearpoc: Creating an iso from a cd use dd
[06:24] <Spec> teknoprep: now i have :p
[06:24] <lens> soundray LOL
[06:24] <rami-> !adding window managers
[06:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about adding window managers - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:24] <teknoprep> Spec:  you like?
[06:24] <Spec> teknoprep: that's pretty sexy, does the application need to support it, or do all applications have the ability to set their opacity?
[06:24] <rami-> STUPID BOT
[06:24] <teknoprep> Spec: its really fast too.. i like it
[06:24] <soundray> !abuse
[06:24] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:24] <lens> no it's an expression "99% of airplane crashes are a result of pilot error"
[06:24] <teknoprep> Spec: all applications support it
[06:24] <rami-> !adding managers to kdm
[06:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about adding managers to kdm - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:24] <theapoc> h3sp4wn: dd?
[06:24] <teknoprep> Spec: kde does the control
[06:24] <rami-> stupid bot
[06:24] <rami-> i hate her
[06:24] <h3sp4wn> theapoc: You want to make an iso from a cd ?
[06:24] <Spec> teknoprep: that's pretty damned cool, i wonder why gnome doesn't support it :)
[06:25] <Spec> teknoprep: perhaps because they are counting on XGL
[06:25] <theapoc> h3sp4wn: Thats right
[06:25] <teknoprep> Spec: you can also set it to lower trans when its innactive and stuff like that
[06:25] <teknoprep> Spec: so i have it at 20% when innactive and 75% when active
[06:25] <Spec> teknoprep: unfortunately once XGL becomes the standard, the minimum sys reqs go way up
[06:25] <teknoprep> Spec: you have global configs and per app configs
[06:25] <john> has anyone in here dealt with qemu/kqemu?
[06:26] <Paradoxx> whats the bash command to rename a file?
[06:26] <lens> but... humor me... so... I mean, does anyone in here know how to make an account that absolutely will not connect to the internet under any circumstances?
[06:26] <h3sp4wn> theapoc: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=~/my.iso
[06:26] <Dr_Willis> john,  i twiddled with qemu enough to get windows95 installed. :)
[06:26] <soundray> Paradoxx: mv. Read about cli:
[06:26] <skavenge> Paradoxx; mv oldname newname
[06:26] <soundray> !cli
[06:26] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:26] <h3sp4wn> john: If you want kqemu to work properly you need qemu 0.81 (i.e from sid)
[06:26] <tylerjroach> I just tried ctrl+alt+f1 and then alt+f7 and when I did the screen blanked and had only a flashing horizontal line
[06:26] <Paradoxx> soundray: isn't that move?
[06:26] <Paradoxx> soundray: well, i guess they coudl do the same thing.... thx
[06:27] <john> well qemu works fine its just during hte install process of winxp it freezes on the device driver installation
[06:27] <Paradoxx> skavenge: thx
[06:27] <theapoc> h3sp4wn: ok thanks, h3sp4wn
[06:27] <anders_> hello
[06:27] <h3sp4wn> theapoc: You are definately not trying to burn an iso - but make one (from a cd) yes?
[06:27] <rami-> !fluxbox
[06:27] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox
[06:27] <Cntryboy> !f4l
[06:27] <ubotu> I know nothing about f4l - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:27] <theapoc> h3sp4wn: Yes :)
[06:27] <soundray> Paradoxx: internally, moving and renaming are identical.
[06:28] <rami-> it does not tell me howto add it in KDM
[06:28] <anders_> how do i install: gedit ???
[06:28] <Paradoxx> soundray: kk, thx
[06:28] <Cntryboy> anyone here ever use f4l? Its a flash program
[06:28] <h3sp4wn> theapoc: Perfect (I was beginning to think I was being stupid)
[06:28] <rami-> How do i add Fluxbox to KDM?
[06:28] <Spec> So ... when will the project: fubuntu be started? (fluxbox)
[06:28] <soundray> anders_: sudo apt-get install gedit (if it's really not already there)
[06:28] <theapoc> h3sp4wn: dd: opening `/dev/cdrom0'    (but that is my cd)
[06:28] <teknoprep> can someone paste me there /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin or what not?
[06:28] <Spec> !info f4l
[06:28] <ubotu> Package f4l does not exist in dapper
[06:28] <rami-> How do i add Fluxbox to KDM?
[06:28] <theapoc> h3sp4wn: dd: opening `/dev/cdrom0':
[06:28] <tylerjroach> I am running dapper on a hp dv4040us laptop and I need power saving modes to work. When I press suspend it will work fine until it starts back up. My resolution on my computer is always set up on 1280x800. When I get out of suspend my resolution way messed up. I can see only a small box on the whole screen and all of the edges are black. I can't see my start panel or anything because all I have is a box in the middle of the screen. Any help would be gr
[06:28] <tylerjroach> eatly appreciated.   I just tried ctrl+alt+f1 and then alt+f7 and when I did the screen blanked and had only a flashing horizontal line
[06:28] <theapoc> er
[06:28] <usama> hi all
[06:29] <theapoc> h3sp4wn: no such file or dir
[06:29] <drega> !enlightenment
[06:29] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[06:29] <h3sp4wn> theapoc: It is /dev/cdrom (or use /dev/hdc) or whatever it is
[06:29] <teicah> how do i make a copy (backup) of my brand new ubuntu 6.06 dvd?
[06:29] <rami-> How do i add Fluxbox to KDM?
[06:29] <skavenge> !fluxbox
[06:29] <ubotu> fluxbox is a lightweight and responsive window manager for GNU/Linux. For how to set it up and more information see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox
[06:29] <soundray> tylerjroach: your graphics driver obviously doesn't deal well with the suspend-resume cycle. What driver do you use?
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> rami-,  whenyou apt-get install it - ht should add an entry.
[06:29] <h3sp4wn> theapoc: dd if=/dev/hdc of=/home/myusername/my.iso (is another way)
[06:30] <teknoprep> is there a gui for qemu ?
[06:30] <usama> when i gave command "make menuconfig" in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23 it said that i have to install ncurses-devel but when i apt-cache search ncurses-devel it says it is not found, can anyone tell me that how can i install ncurses-devel?
[06:30] <tylerjroach> I don't know. In windows xp suspend works perfectly. how do I check my graphics driver
[06:30] <anders_> how do i install: gedit ???
[06:30] <soundray> tylerjroach: try changing the POST_VIDEO and other settings in /etc/default/acpi-support
[06:30] <theapoc> h3sp4wn: that did it, thanks again
[06:30] <drega> anders_ sudo apt-get install gedit
[06:30] <teknoprep> sudo apt-get install gedit
[06:31] <anders_> ok
[06:31] <anders_> ty :)
[06:31] <skavenge> gedit is installed by default with gnome/xwindows anyway, or should be
[06:31] <soundray> tylerjroach: lspci should give you an idea what video hardware is installed
[06:31] <teknoprep> is there a gui for qemu ?
[06:31] <frogzoo> tylerjroach: which vid card?
[06:32] <usama> can anyone help me about that ncurses-devel problem?
[06:32] <h3sp4wn> teknoprep: 0.81 is alot better than 0.80
[06:32] <Spec> teknoprep: perhaps kqemu, but i don't think that's Free.
[06:32] <soundray> usama: it's hard to tell, unless you describe the problem.
[06:32] <odb|rescue> hi, is wine avaliable for ubuntu64 ? cant find anything
[06:32] <teknoprep> h3sp4wn: ?
[06:32] <Spec> !info kqemu
[06:32] <ubotu> Package kqemu does not exist in dapper
[06:32] <usama> soundray: hmm lemme type again
[06:32] <frogzoo> odb|rescue: nope - you need a 32bit chroot envirt
[06:32] <h3sp4wn> teknoprep: qemu
[06:32] <skavenge> odb|rescue; nope
[06:32] <torpedo|dog> Does anybody here know where MySQL stores its database files?
[06:32] <tylerjroach> is suspend to ram what I want to do. I checked out etc/default/acpi-support and here is what it says:   # Uncomment the next line to enable ACPI suspend to RAM
[06:32] <tylerjroach> #ACPI_SLEEP=true
[06:32] <odb|rescue> damn, ok thx frogzoo  & skavenge
[06:33] <usama> soundray: when i gave command "make menuconfig" in /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15-23 it said that i have to install ncurses-devel but when i apt-cache search ncurses-devel it says it is not found, can anyone tell me that how can i install ncurses-devel?
[06:33] <soundray> odb|rescue: no, the recommended procedure is to install wine in a 32-bit chroot environment
[06:33] <drega> torpedo|dog maybe /usr/lib/mysql
[06:33] <SanketMedhi> hello people
[06:33] <frogzoo> torpedo|dog: under /var
[06:33] <h3sp4wn> teknoprep: Its actually useably fast and reliable (with kqemu)
[06:33] <teknoprep> hey
[06:33] <SanketMedhi> ask me mysql :)
[06:33] <drega> ah nm
[06:33] <tylerjroach> should I get rid of the # before acpi_sleep=true
[06:33] <teknoprep> anyone wanna let me know why i can't install.. ubuntu-desktop ?
[06:33] <teknoprep> i am on kubuntu
[06:33] <Subhuman> usama, itz "sudo apt-get install ncurses-dev"
[06:33] <SanketMedhi> torpedo|dog: /var/lib/mysql/
[06:33] <Subhuman> teknoprep, what error do you geT?
[06:33] <torpedo|dog> SanketMedhi: thank you
[06:33] <soundray> tylerjroach: only you would know whether you want to hibernate (big savings, slow restart) or suspend (small energy savings, quick restart)
[06:33] <SanketMedhi> np
[06:33] <teknoprep> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:34] <teknoprep>   ubuntu-desktop: Depends: libglib2.0-data but it is not going to be installed
[06:34] <Subhuman> hmm
[06:34] <soundray> tylerjroach: yes, to activate a line like that you should remove the comment mark (#)
[06:34] <Subhuman> im not sure
[06:34] <Subhuman> im going now anyway
[06:34] <Subhuman> later
[06:34] <tylerjroach> ok
[06:34] <stefg> rami-: i will /not/ advice you to try a google search before failing to get an answer here because of bad manners :-) But this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=982724 is like the second resultt google spits out
[06:34] <usama> Subhuman: its downloading, lemme check, thanks by the way
[06:35] <soundray> usama: you need libncurses5-dev probably
[06:35] <SanketMedhi> teknoprep: why do you need that?
[06:35] <rami-> How do i add Fluxbox to KDM?
[06:35] <harisund> Does anybody know what mdadm and mdadm-raid processes are? I am wondering whether it is safe to stop them from running?
[06:36] <stefg> harisund: multi disk manager... RAID stuff
[06:36] <harisund> stefg so I am guessing I wouldn't be needing it right?
[06:37] <stefg> So if you don't have any soft-Raid partitions in your system, they are safe to remove
[06:37] <harisund> thanks :) thanks !
[06:37] <stefg> !info sysv-rc-conf
[06:37] <ubotu> sysv-rc-conf: SysV init runlevel configuration tool for the terminal. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.99-3 (dapper), package size 23 kB, installed size 104 kB
[06:37] <stefg> ^ try that one ^
[06:37] <PORDO> what do i need to install to get pcmcia?  i acidentally removed it once, and i've been meaning to reinstall, but don't see anything for my kernel version.
[06:37] <Sikon> how to change the font used for the window caption by compiz-gnome?
[06:37] <SanketMedhi> ubotu: hi
[06:37] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:37] <SanketMedhi> :)
[06:38] <Sikon> (I'm using Xgl)
[06:38] <usama> what should i do, so that gaim (i am using gaim as irc client) highlights the line which contains my nick?
[06:38] <SanketMedhi> Sikon: go to #ubuntu-xgl
[06:38] <SanketMedhi> usama: it already highlights your name
[06:38] <Linuturk> I need help with my smb.conf file
[06:38] <SanketMedhi> usama: and the tab caption/title
[06:39] <Linuturk> and sharing a printer via samba
[06:39] <jeff_> hey guys
[06:39] <SanketMedhi> hi
[06:39] <Knightlust> im thinking of using e17, is it possible in ubuntu?
[06:39] <stefg> !samba
[06:39] <SanketMedhi> yes
[06:39] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:39] <jeff_> ive downloaded an intel graphics driver .tar package from their site and it uses some kind of shell script to install
[06:39] <jeff_> but i dont know how to get it working
[06:39] <usama> SanketMedhi: no, its not highlighting my name :(
[06:40] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: there has to be an INSTALL or README in the package
[06:40] <Knightlust> great, are they on the repository too? so i could just apt them.
[06:40] <SanketMedhi> usama: it does if someone take your name and your on a different tab
[06:40] <Sikon> SanketMedhi> thanks
[06:40] <SanketMedhi> np
[06:40] <Paradoxx> soundray: when i move the directory, it tells me  i have to create a directory with that name, and when i move  the file after i create the director,y it moves it as a subdirectory....I don't want it as a subdirectory, how do i change that
[06:40] <SanketMedhi> Knightlust: I think so
[06:40] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: it uses a DRI or DRM somthing
[06:41] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: no readmes
[06:41] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: is there any text file in it?
[06:41] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: read it!
[06:41] <usama> SanketMedhi: what about the current tab?
[06:41] <SanketMedhi> if you're on the current tab why do you need highlighting?
[06:41] <SanketMedhi> usama: have you tried X-chat?
[06:41] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: there isnt any file that explains the installation
[06:41] <SanketMedhi> usama: btw, even I use Gaim :P
[06:42] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: do this, ls *.sh
[06:42] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: tell em the output
[06:42] <usama> SanketMedhi: no, i haven't checked xchat, cuse i like gaim
[06:42] <SanketMedhi> me*
[06:42] <teknoprep> hey anyone in here know anything?
[06:42] <teknoprep> lol
[06:42] <PORDO> should dmesg include the text at the ubuntu logo, where it's like "starting up pcmcia.....ok, starting up networking.....ok" ?
[06:42] <PORDO> i need to read that text.
[06:42] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: there is install.sh if that what ur looking for
[06:43] <SanketMedhi> usama: Gaim is an all in one client. X-chat is dedicated to IRC. Its good, worth a try. Comes with all standard distros pre-installed.
[06:43] <teknoprep> dpkg -l libglib*   --->> un  libglib2.0-data    <none>             (no description available)
[06:43] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: do this, ./install.sh
[06:43] <teknoprep> i need to be able to install that to get unbuntu-desktop
[06:43] <PORDO> gaim rules.
[06:43] <PORDO> but gaim needs jingle support badly.
[06:43] <SanketMedhi> PORDO: yeah :)
[06:43] <f_favila> and script support
[06:43] <usama> SanketMedhi: ok thanks
[06:43] <skavenge> bah irc belongs on cli ;)
[06:43] <SanketMedhi> np
[06:44] <SanketMedhi> lol
[06:44] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: its a DRI driver, i press enter to continue, then it asks me if i want to install or uninstall. i press 1 for install and it just closes
[06:44] <SanketMedhi> I like Gaim because of the keyboard shortcuts and the integrated-ness
[06:44] <h3sp4wn> teknoprep: i expect you are using xgl or other unofficial repositories remove them and force downgrade some stuff and you will be fine (you won't have any trouble because you already know bsd and solaris well)
[06:44] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: it might have installed then
[06:44] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: get_osname()
[06:44] <jeff_> Compiler is not available to compile modules, aborting...
[06:45] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: do you have gcc installed?
[06:45] <skavenge> jeff_; install build-essential
[06:45] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: ok
[06:45] <stefg> !build > jeff
[06:45] <tylerjroach> tried to suspend changing file but didn't work. What is the command to view the drivers I have again
[06:45] <stefg> !build > jeff_
[06:45] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: do this, sudo apt-get install gcc build-essentials binutils
[06:45] <SanketMedhi> !build
[06:45] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for a pre-built package first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:45] <SanketMedhi> hmmm
[06:45] <fdr> Hello! The update manager is telling me that some packages need to be update (quite a lot of packages, actually), but many of them have a blank changelog... is this regular? One of those packages if for instance openoffice.... thank you!
[06:46] <SanketMedhi> fdr: Openoffice was updated recently, its safe
[06:46] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: ok im doing that
[06:46] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: done
[06:46] <stefg> watch out for the new kernel... will break vmplayer and, on some systems,  dri
[06:46] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: im gonna try again
[06:47] <jeff_> stefg: when is the new dapper kernel coming out?
[06:47] <skavenge> it just got updated
[06:47] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: it already did
[06:47] <SanketMedhi> yeah
[06:47] <stefg> -26 just came out... but a couple of modules are still missing
[06:47] <nihilocrat> what's new about it?
[06:47] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: its not the dapper kernel, its the linux kernel
[06:47] <SanketMedhi> stefg: /
[06:47] <SanketMedhi> ?
[06:47] <kryme> I hate to ask, but I've searched Google and the Ubuntu wiki, and I can't find anything ... is there an easy way to do a remaster where I can add and remove software and make a new live CD?  If so, is there a web page that explains this?
[06:48] <fdr> stefg, do you mean that the vmware kernel module needs to be recompiled, or that it won't work at all?
[06:48] <kryme> Or even a difficult way to remaster, as long as there's a web page explaining it.
[06:48] <gregg__> kryme, maybe slax is more suitable for that
[06:48] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: stefg: i dont know anything about kernel compilation and have never tried to compile a new kernel
[06:48] <SanketMedhi> kryme: Slax rules!
[06:49] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: what is you're problem exactly?
[06:49] <stefg> I updated, noticed that vmmon and vmnet are not there, and subsequently failed to build the vmplayer modules with module-assistant... so went back to -25
[06:49] <skavenge> kryme; http://lichota.net/~krzysiek/projects/ubuntu-livecd-customization/
[06:49] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: im trying to install the official linux drivers for my intel integrated graphics card from intels website
[06:49] <SanketMedhi> stefg: I don't think that is a problem with the updates
[06:49] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: all that was available for my card was a .tar and .rpm
[06:49] <kryme> I don't have issue with slax, and I'd be glad to try to use it personally, but I'm just trying to make a custom server Ubuntu installation.
[06:50] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: what make?
[06:50] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: 845g
[06:50] <SanketMedhi> kryme: do you know there already is?
[06:50] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: what error do you get when you run ./install.sh /
[06:50] <SanketMedhi> ?
[06:50] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17933
[06:50] <anders_> what is the problem, i cant drag items..?
[06:50] <SanketMedhi> ok
[06:51] <stefg> SanketMedhi: no it's a problem with a sensible release quality control :-\ kernel -26 was put in the repos before all the modules were working, but i guess, that's just a matter of time
[06:51] <SanketMedhi> hmm
[06:51] <kryme> SanketMedhi: Customized to my needs, not a generic server installation.
[06:51] <kryme> skavenge: Thanks for the link.
[06:51] <SanketMedhi> ok
[06:51] <skavenge> np hope it helps
[06:52] <tailsfan> If you install the driver for a soundcard with WINE, will it enable sound for Ubuntu?
[06:52] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: do this, and try again, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` build-essential , this will take a lotaa time :)
[06:52] <stefg> wine won't install drivers, no way
[06:52] <Spec> tailsfan: no
[06:52] <tailsfan> Dang
[06:52] <SanketMedhi> tailsfan: no :_
[06:52] <SanketMedhi> :)
[06:52] <tailsfan> NVM
[06:52] <jeff_> lol
[06:52] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: ok
[06:52] <SanketMedhi> ?
[06:52] <vorbote> kryme: you need to create your own preseed file and remaster the server CD. The method is described somehwere in the Debian Policy Manual (http://www.debian.org/docs/)
[06:52] <tailsfan> Thought that would have worked
[06:52] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: you need kernel sources to compile drivers, that why
[06:53] <SanketMedhi> tailsfan: what card is it?
[06:53] <tailsfan> and I'm also having probs running AIM with WINE
[06:53] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: gotcha
[06:53] <kryme> vorbote: Thanks.
[06:53] <tailsfan> ESS 1869 Audiodrive
[06:53] <cytrak> anyone here has ubuntu running on a soekris board ?
[06:53] <Spec> tailsfan: why not use 'gaim'?
[06:53] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: its done
[06:53] <Foobal> tailsfan: may I ask why your are using aim on wine? gaim works
[06:53] <Spec> tailsfan: or the aim client for linux, as i believe they have one ....
[06:53] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: what?
[06:53] <PORDO> tailsfan aim is propriety.  consider jabber.
[06:53] <tailsfan> I tried to compile and install alsa, but even Iwhen I instaleed teh linux-headers, it did''nt worked
[06:54] <lordhedgie> Quick question -- how do I set the hostname on a box WITHOUT an GUI?
[06:54] <SanketMedhi> tailsfan: try Gaim, its good
[06:54] <mlehrer> i'm trying to imagine what it is going to be like maintaining a 2.6.15 kernel for 5 stinkin years
[06:54] <lordhedgie> I've broken my XWindows by changing the hostname to blank by accident (meant to blank the domain name)
[06:54] <ciaron> how do i run an app at a lower priority than everything else?
[06:54] <acuster> hey all, why would nm-applet tell me "No network devices have been found", since I'm obviously connected (via wireless)?
[06:54] <stefg> lordhedgie: /etc/hostname and edit /etc/hosts
[06:54] <lordhedgie> Thanks
[06:54] <mlehrer> the kernel was out of date before Dapper was released
[06:54] <tailsfan> I use Gaim, but my brother kept on asking me to get the AIM Client
[06:54] <Linuturk> i've got a 3 button mouse, but I foolishly selected "Emulate Three button mouse" Where do I go to fix this without reconfiguring Xserver completely?
[06:54] <teknoprep> for you interests in music... http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8040  is a great f'n stream
[06:55] <SanketMedhi> lordhedgie: do it in init 1
[06:55] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: i copied your cammand and it finished already, i tried the isntall.sh again but it didnt work. i got the same error
[06:55] <Spec> tailsfan: use the linux AIM client
[06:55] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: check if you have the 'restricted modules' package for your kernel installed using Synaptic
[06:55] <Spec> tailsfan: use wine as little as possible -- it's not as good as native code
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> Linuturk,  edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf - there should be a line about emulate 3 buttons = yes, change it to no
[06:56] <fowlduck> ya
[06:57] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: try this, sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[06:57] <squee> hey, My shutdown (including sudo shutdown now) wont fully turn off the pc. Harddrives are off but the screen and fans are still on. Any ideas on how to solve this? Thanks
[06:57] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: that was my last try
[06:57] <SanketMedhi> :)
[06:57] <Linuturk> Dr_Willis, i'll have to restart X, right?
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> Linuturk,  that file is only read when x starts up.. so correct.
[06:58] <Linuturk> Dr_Willis, how do I restart Xserver w/o losing my current work (windows) ?
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> Linuturk,  BACKUP your existing config file.
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> Linuturk,  you dont.
[06:58] <Spec> Linuturk: you don't :-/
[06:58] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:58] <samuli> I need help setting up simple natting with two ethernet cards.
[06:58] <Linuturk> Dr_Willis, mmk, well, I can remember the simple true to false change
[06:58] <ketetha_> can you help me
[06:58] <skavenge> you can get most of it back if you turn on 'automatically save session' under Sessions .. some programs work with it, some dont
[06:58] <Linuturk> i guess I'll just restart
[06:58] <Spec> Linuturk: think of it in a better way though: in windows you'd have to reboot to do anything, in linux all you have to do is restart the x server :o)
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> Linuturk,  unless ya totally screw up the editor. :)  it PAYS to keep several backups (i date mine) with my changes
[06:59] <ketetha_> i installed gdeskcal :sudo apt-get install gdeskcal: itworked and installed but i cant find it
[06:59] <Spec> Dr_Willis: you keep backups too?
[06:59] <ketetha_> ketetha_ how can i run something from the terminal?
[06:59] <Spec> Dr_Willis: we are definitely the few
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> I had to reboot windows last night to finish a game install.. (just for the lame copy protection)
[06:59] <SanketMedhi> ketetha_: how are you today?
[06:59] <squee> hey, My shutdown (including sudo shutdown now) wont fully turn off the pc. Harddrives are off but the screen and fans are still on. Any ideas on how to solve this? Thanks
[06:59] <PanicFo> where can i see items moved to the garbage bin?
[06:59] <Linuturk> ok
[06:59] <snowblink> squee, can your PSU do soft shutdowns?
[06:59] <SanketMedhi> ketetha_: Accessories >> Calculator
[06:59] <Axis-> I'm so confused... i ordered the 10 pack and i got 10 ubuntu cd's all the exact same only with the demo programs on them like firefox, gaim... etc
[06:59] <Spec> squee: do you do:  sudo shutdown -h now?
[06:59] <Linuturk> well, it's control + alt + backspace correct?
[06:59] <stefg> squee: Didn't we go through that before?
[06:59] <ketetha_> SanketMedhi, whats that going to do? haha
[07:00] <SanketMedhi> ?
[07:00] <skavenge> PanicFo; double click the trash can
[07:00] <Linuturk> then startx if it doesn't come back up automatically
[07:00] <ketetha_> squee, did you fix your problem?
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> Axis-,  thats a feature of the live cd. for windows users to test out.. they are bootable.
[07:00] <Linuturk> right?
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> Axis-,  reboot with cd in the drive.. goes to the live cd
[07:00] <PanicFo> Axis- : that cd is both a livecd and an install cd
[07:00] <ketetha_> SanketMedhi, im goood :)
[07:00] <PanicFo> :)
[07:00] <sri_> what i should to do prog in mysql
[07:00] <Spec> Linuturk: no
[07:00] <SanketMedhi> ketetha_: :)
[07:00] <squee> stefg yeah we did, im back from work now and it didnt work sorry!
[07:00] <SanketMedhi> sri_: what
[07:00] <SanketMedhi> ?
[07:00] <PanicFo> lol ofcourse
[07:00] <ketetha_> SanketMedhi, you told me to go to the calculater
[07:00] <Spec> Linuturk: ctrl+alt+backspace, and do /etc/init.d/gdm restart if it doesn't come back, give it a minute before you do that
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> its 3 in one cd.. Live cd, installer cd, and examples of GPL stuff for windows data cd.
[07:00] <Axis-> alright so if i put it in and reboot it will let me install the desktop?
[07:00] <ketetha_> SanketMedhi, hows your day going
[07:00] <SanketMedhi> ketetha_: yeah so
[07:00] <Linuturk> ok
[07:00] <ketetha_> SanketMedhi, haha what do i do there
[07:00] <SanketMedhi> ketetha_: its nite here :P
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> and yes - i think putting that stuff on there for windows - is a lame idea. :)
[07:00] <sri_> SanketMedhi, about data base management programs
[07:01] <Spec> Dr_Willis: no it's not
[07:01] <ketetha_> SanketMedhi, oohh no. i thoguth gdeskcal was a CALENDER.
[07:01] <stefg> squee: so paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[07:01] <SanketMedhi> sri_: what exactly do you need to do?
[07:01] <Spec> Dr_Willis: i gave out ~2000 cds at a convention the other week, and it's convenient to tell them to put that in a windows drive to "explore opensource software"
[07:01] <Spec> Dr_Willis: printed CDs are good for converting people -- the previously converted just download the ISOs
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> Spec,  yes it is. :P since by the time its out - its allready out of date.. and if i wanted such a thing - id give out that "Open CD" :) but wait.. isent it a live cd now also.
[07:01] <sri_> SanketMedhi, i want to do sql programs in the terminal
[07:01] <stefg> squee: and while you're at it paste the output of 'dmesg' as well
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> Spec,  convert or die! You Windows Heathen! works for me.
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:01] <Spec> Dr_Willis: we had some copies of the OpenCD as well :)
[07:01] <ketetha_> !info gdeskcal
[07:01] <ubotu> gdeskcal: A desktop calendar featuring transparency with smooth alpha-blending. In repository universe, is optional. Version 0.57.1-1ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 175 kB, installed size 1416 kB
[07:02] <ketetha_> its a calender
[07:02] <SanketMedhi> ketetha_: sudo apt-get install mysql-server
[07:02] <SanketMedhi> ketetha_: oh ok sorry :P
[07:02] <snowblink> squee, do you have AT hardware?
[07:02] <ketetha_> SanketMedhi, haha wahts that going to do?
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> whats sad - i dont even want or use openoffice. :P
[07:02] <ketetha_> SanketMedhi, its okkk :)
[07:02] <Spec> why not?
[07:02] <Spec> vim?
[07:02] <skavenge> ketetha_; it might not have added it to the menu, open a terminal and type 'gdeskcal'
[07:02] <Axis-> so are all 10 of these ubuntu cd's the exact same?
[07:02] <h3sp4wn> Dr_Willis: Me neither bloated waste of space
[07:02] <Spec> Axis-:  if you ordered 10 ubuntu cds, then yes :p
[07:02] <sri_> SanketMedhi, in the synaptic manager there is several mysql packages which i should install?
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> id rather see the live cd come with both gnome and kde (blasphmy!)
[07:02] <SanketMedhi> ketetha_: ALT+F2 , gdeskcal
[07:02] <Axis-> lol alright
[07:02] <Spec> Dr_Willis: blasphemy!
[07:02] <ketetha_> SanketMedhi, okk thanks :)
[07:02] <SanketMedhi> ketetha_: thanks never tried that b4 :)
[07:03] <anto9us> ketetha_, it seems to render on every desktop but the current one, try switching destktops
[07:03] <SanketMedhi> ketetha_: its a cool applet
[07:03] <Spec> Axis-: i'd suggest you find 9 people who you want to convert and hand them out :)
[07:03] <ketetha_> SanketMedhi, whats alt + f2 do
[07:03] <ulisse> hello
[07:03] <Spec> damn it, i hate it when they quit right as i tell them something :-/
[07:03] <SanketMedhi> ketetha_: run a command
[07:03] <Spec> that's twice today :p
[07:03] <SanketMedhi> Spec: hehe
[07:03] <stefg> Dr_Willis: Brilliant Idea.... so we're going to invnet teh 1.4 G CD.... a revolution :-)
[07:03] <drebs> Hello everyone! I am doing a ubuntu installation on an iMac 233Mhz and I am having trouble with partitioning the disk with the old OS 9 partitions (hda[1-6] ). fdisk can't delete these partitions... someone has a light?
[07:03] <Spec> Ubuntu-DVD?
[07:03] <Spec> kubuntu, xubuntu, etc
[07:04] <sri_> which package should install to do programs in mysql ??
[07:04] <ketetha_> SanketMedhi, ok it briefly opened and closed
[07:04] <jeff_> does anybody know what you need to compile DRI drivers? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17933
[07:04] <stefg> drebs: a bit tricky, but doable
[07:04] <ketetha_> SanketMedhi, ill try taht again brb
[07:04] <SanketMedhi> stefg: whats going on :S
[07:04] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: what happ?
[07:04] <nalioth> drebs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OldWorldMacs
[07:04] <ketetha_> it worked thanks
[07:04] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: it was already installed to the newest version
[07:05] <drebs> stefg: Thanx, I'll have a look there
[07:05] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: do 1 thing, put your install.sh and gimme the url
[07:05] <SanketMedhi> ketetha_: np
[07:05] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: pastebin the whole thing?
[07:05] <stefg> drebs: the trick is to use the OS9 partioner to create pseudo -Mac unix partitions, which will later be used by linux
[07:05] <l_r> hello
[07:05] <sri_> which package should install to do programs in mysql ??
[07:05] <drebs> stefg: uh oh, i already fucked everything up.. =P
[07:06] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: how big is it?
[07:06] <l_r> i am having problems with cups server. it does not let me login in the admin page as root from localhost
[07:06] <SanketMedhi> sri_: I already told you
[07:06] <drebs> stefg: i think i'll have to find a os 9 disc somewhere
[07:06] <sri_> SanketMedhi, which package??
[07:06] <nalioth> drebs: language please
[07:06] <SanketMedhi> sri_: mysql-server
[07:06] <drebs> nalioth: sorry
[07:06] <nalioth> !oldworld > drebs
[07:06] <stefg> drebs: i know there's a Howto out there on the web.... but last time i put ubuntu on a ppc machine is a while ago..
[07:06] <sri_> SanketMedhi, ok 1m
[07:06] <nalioth> !oldworld > stefg
[07:06] <SanketMedhi> sri_: do this...
[07:07] <l_r> i want to configure this damn server according to my needs, but it refuses to let me login as both user and root
[07:07] <SanketMedhi> sri_: sudo apt-get install mysql-server-5.0
[07:07] <SanketMedhi> !oldworld
[07:07] <ubotu> oldworld is For installation on Old World PowerMacs see this URL https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/OldWorldMacs
[07:07] <stefg> !oldworld > drebs
[07:07] <jeff_> SanketMedhi:
[07:07] <Bonez> hello, i am currently booted into ubuntu dapper livecd trying to resize my ext3 primary partition, i have 11gb of unallocated space however it will not let me grow the ext3 partition, only shrink it. am i doing something wrong?
[07:07] <SanketMedhi> hmm
[07:07] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17939
[07:07] <drebs> =) thanks
[07:07] <sri_> SanketMedhi, thank u
[07:07] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: ok
[07:07] <SanketMedhi> sri_: np
[07:08] <ketetha_> whats the code to uninstall something
[07:08] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: it pasted only a part of the file :S
[07:08] <ketetha_> sudo apt-get uninstall packagename?
[07:08] <SanketMedhi> ketetha_: sudo apt-get uninstall <package-name>
[07:08] <SanketMedhi> yep :)
[07:08] <SanketMedhi> ketetha_: no !!! :P
[07:08] <ketetha_> thanks
[07:08] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: ?
[07:08] <ketetha_> haha
[07:08] <ketetha_> i heard it was
[07:09] <SanketMedhi> ketetha_: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[07:09] <SanketMedhi> lol sorry
[07:09] <ketetha_> sudo apt-get remove
[07:09] <ketetha_> hahaha ;)
[07:09] <ketetha_> haha
[07:09] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: how many lines do you have? i have 072
[07:09] <anders_> why does my xfce buging, i cant drag folders, its wrong with my leftclick, but it worked on kubuntu/ubuntu? :S
[07:09] <SanketMedhi> hehe
[07:09] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: 75
[07:09] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: that file is definitely bigger
[07:09] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: yeah 75 then 2 lines with nothing. it just goes back tot he prompt after that
[07:09] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: open it using gedit
[07:10] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: I want the code not the output
[07:10] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: ok, ill open install.sh with gedit and pastebin it
[07:10] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: gedit install.sh
[07:10] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: ok
[07:10] <Bonez> hello, i am currently booted into ubuntu dapper livecd trying to resize my ext3 primary partition, i have 11gb of unallocated space however it will not let me grow the ext3 partition, only shrink it. am i doing something wrong?
[07:11] <ulisse> I have a webcam that is reported to work with spca5xx driver, but I get a "no space on device" error with gstreamer-properties. Any hint?
[07:11] <SanketMedhi> Bonez: those two partition may not be in the same extended partition
[07:11] <samuli> hmm.
[07:11] <LTjake> hi. i've recently installed dapper on my dell d620. i can't seem to get my windows key to work. under system->preferences->keyboard->layouts tab the keyboard model says "unknown" -- i assume this is part of the problem. thanks in advance for any help.
[07:11] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/17941
[07:11] <Bonez> SanketMedhi: no, they are not. how can i fix it?
[07:11] <SanketMedhi> ok
[07:12] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: what is the make again?
[07:12] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: the make of my card?
[07:12] <SanketMedhi> Bonez: can you take a screenshot in gparted and give me a link
[07:12] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: yes
[07:12] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: this is exactly what it says in device manager
[07:12] <Bonez> SanketMedhi: Sure, standby.
[07:13] <qwertybob> i need some help after upgrade im not getting good screens
[07:13] <papo> is there documentation around similar to http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities wich describes the meaning of tags and severity for bugs
[07:13] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G] /GE/PE DRAM
[07:13] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: ok
[07:13] <qwertybob> i upgraded cpu to amd64, now on reboot my display is all broken
[07:13] <Linuturk> where does Ubuntu stand with tablet features? Handwriting recognition? Pen recognition?
[07:14] <skavenge> wacoms work for sure, ive seen the howto
[07:14] <skavenge> never used one though
[07:14] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: did you install the restricted modules?
[07:15] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: it said it was already installed
[07:15] <Blink||> ok, can someone give me a link on how to upgrade from breezey to the latest?
[07:15] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: ok
[07:15] <qwertybob> is there some way to reinstall and keep all my home directory and settings
[07:15] <SanketMedhi> Blink||: gksudo update-manager -d
[07:15] <tamran> hello everyone
[07:15] <skavenge> !update
[07:15] <jeff_> Blink||: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade i think
[07:15] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[07:15] <tamran> I am a new Ubuntu convert from Gentoo
[07:16] <SanketMedhi> qwertybob: copy your home dir somewhere and then dump it!
[07:16] <SanketMedhi> tamran: congrats! :P
[07:16] <tamran> of course, I still use gentoo on my other system
[07:16] <SanketMedhi> hehe
[07:16] <tamran> this is almost as easy as an iMac to set up
[07:16] <qwertybob> SanketMedhi: you mean just copy it to like usb or something?
[07:16] <SanketMedhi> qwertybob: sure
[07:16] <Blink||> it doesnt say anything about upgrading, only that it is up to date
[07:17] <SanketMedhi> qwertybob: copy the contents of /home/user not the dir /home
[07:17] <skavenge> !update > Blink||
[07:17] <qwertybob> SanketMedhi: everything was working well until i replaced the mobo and chip with AMD 64
[07:17] <sri_> qwertybob, or u can make a directory & u can mount it
[07:17] <Bonez> SanketMedhi: http://www.amnet.net.au/~dodj/screenshot.png
[07:17] <tamran> here's a silly question ... when I install a new font set (such as artwiz fonts), do I have to restart X to use them?
[07:17] <qwertybob> SanketMedhi: ive tried fixing the screen, reinstalling nvidia-glx. dpkg reconfiugre , vesa
[07:17] <SanketMedhi> tamran: worth a try :P
[07:18] <qwertybob> it doesnt like my via chip or something
[07:18] <SanketMedhi> qwertybob: you changed your CPU? :O
[07:18] <tamran> well, it was more of a question regardign setup, the other more "manual" distros you have to.  Just curious if they've set anything like that up?
[07:18] <skavenge> qwertybob; your more than likely going to need a fresh install .. no OS likes you changing cpus, mobos, etc without reinstalling
[07:18] <qwertybob> SanketMedhi: yes
[07:18] <sri_> SanketMedhi, it is better to move the content into another partition & we can upgrade ot
[07:18] <Stormx2> !xorg
[07:18] <sri_> SanketMedhi, i think
[07:18] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart (GNOME), sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart (KDE) To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:18] <SanketMedhi> qwertybob: wrong!
[07:18] <Bonez> SanketMedhi: I am trying to grow the size of /dev/hda3
[07:18] <samuli> C'mon couldn't anyone help me out with a natting problem?
[07:18] <SanketMedhi> qwertybob: skavenge is right1
[07:19] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: gimme the link of where you download that drivers from
[07:19] <qwertybob> skavenge: does that go for winbloas part. too
[07:19] <SanketMedhi> samuli: explain
[07:19] <qwertybob> SanketMedhi: do i need the 64 bit version or can i run same?
[07:19] <derrickh> does anyone know why update-notifier reopens itself when i close it?
[07:19] <skavenge> qwertybob; especially windows unfortunetly .. ive never done that in linux but running windows i did and it took a complete reinstall to work
[07:19] <SanketMedhi> Bonez: you want to extend hda3 to the free space on the left?
[07:19] <samuli> SanketMedhi, it's really basic. two static ip's xbox and computer with two ethernet cards.
[07:20] <SanketMedhi> qwertybob: installing an amd64 version is recommended
[07:20] <Bonez> SanketMedhi: Yes, as you can see there is 11gb free (I removed my windows NTFS partition) and I want to use that empty space in my /dev/hda3
[07:20] <samuli> SanketMedhi, I'm not sure what I should put for gateway/dns the local network card and xbox
[07:20] <qwertybob> thanks
[07:20] <samuli> SanketMedhi, does it even matter?
[07:20] <SanketMedhi> Bonez: you can't do that, the free space has to be next to the one you want to resizw
[07:21] <Bonez> SanketMedhi: ok, but how do I make it next to it? I am unsure what I can do...
[07:21] <SanketMedhi> samuli: you just want to set up a two device network?
[07:21] <SanketMedhi> Bonez: make a new partition out of the free space and mount it somewhere
[07:21] <skavenge> you are going to run into issues on 64 bit ubuntu with java, flash, etc .. something to think about .. the standard version will run fine on a 64 bit system as well
[07:21] <SanketMedhi> not really
[07:21] <samuli> SanketMedhi, I want to nat my xbox throught my pc.
[07:22] <SanketMedhi> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[07:22] <Bonez> SanketMedhi: I was worried that would be my only option.. :( if I were to install ubuntu from scratch then would it be possible to re-configure all of the partitions correctly?
[07:22] <SanketMedhi> skavenge: see that link
[07:22] <SanketMedhi> Bonez: you don't neeed to do that
[07:22] <HorzA> how can i see what folders that are over 10 days old in console?
[07:22] <skavenge> SanketMedhi, i know of the workarounds its still troublesome for people though
[07:22] <SanketMedhi> Bonez: where exactly do you think you need more space?
[07:22] <Bonez> SanketMedhi: I need more space on /dev/hda3 which is my main OS partition for ubuntu
[07:22] <SanketMedhi> skavenge: not really, I have links for all problems :)
[07:23] <derrickh> can update-notifier be removed from the Windows List?  i tried closing it but it reopens rigt after i close it
[07:23] <baseball0081> I have a problem.....on my other computer i try to load ubuntu and when it gets to mounting root file system my it gets the error (buffer I/O error on device hdd
[07:23] <SanketMedhi> Bonez: format the free space as ext3 and mount it on some directory which you think requires more space, for eg. /var
[07:23] <skavenge> SanketMedhi, *shrug* i dont have a 64 bit system so i wouldnt know, we get alot of questions regarding that in here though
[07:23] <SanketMedhi> baseball0081: maybe your hdd is corrupt
[07:24] <Bonez> SanketMedhi: yes I will do that, thanks for your help. It's not the ideal situation and it's a bit messy but it is my only option so I will have to do that. Thanks again :)
[07:24] <SanketMedhi> skavenge: ok there are enough links on UbuntuForums.org
[07:24] <SanketMedhi> Bonez: np, be sure to keep your partitions clean :)
[07:24] <baseball0081> SanketMedhi: does that mean my cd is screwed up
[07:24] <skavenge> SanketMedhi, thats assuming people will take the time to read ;)
[07:24] <SanketMedhi> baseball0081: HDD = HardDisk Drive
[07:25] <Bonez> SanketMedhi: I just came across from windows so it's been a bit of a nightmare, when I reformat and install ubuntu from scratch i will organise it much better :)
[07:25] <SanketMedhi> skavenge: they do spend time coming here ;)
[07:25] <SanketMedhi> skavenge: there is no use of using an AMD64 if your not gonna use it
[07:25] <SanketMedhi> Bonez: best luck ;
[07:25] <SanketMedhi> ;)
[07:25] <baseball0081> SanketMedhi:  how do a know if it is
[07:25] <skavenge> SanketMedhi, oh they have no problem wasting time here, but are insulted if you point them at a webpage heh. not good.
[07:26] <SanketMedhi> lol
[07:26] <SanketMedhi> !help
[07:26] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:26] <SanketMedhi> umm
[07:26] <skavenge> SanketMedhi, point taken though, whats the point in having the hardware if its not being used
[07:26] <SanketMedhi> skavenge: exactly
[07:26] <Ubuacke_> hehehe, huum how do i query the bot?
[07:26] <skavenge> !ping
[07:26] <ubotu> pong
[07:26] <Echodrive> sup homies
[07:26] <SanketMedhi> skavenge: do you know a solution to baseball0081's query?
[07:26] <SanketMedhi> lol
[07:26] <Ubuacke_> !update
[07:26] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade  Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades  Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development version.
[07:27] <SanketMedhi> how so I list all things Ubotu can tell me about?
[07:27] <SanketMedhi> do*
[07:27] <skavenge> !ubotu
[07:27] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[07:27] <SanketMedhi> hmm
[07:27] <SanketMedhi> another link :P
[07:27] <skavenge> SanketMedhi, I missed his question, something wrong with his install cd?
[07:28] <sri_> can any one tell the chat takes place on python(i try #python )but it is displaying a message that u have entered into a wrog location
[07:28] <asdasd> All knowing infobot my butt, it took uboto two weeks to help me set up my wireless card : )
[07:28] <baseball0081> Skavenge:I get the error when mounting root file system buffer I/O error on device hdd
[07:28] <SanketMedhi> skavenge: no I think his hdd is corrupt
[07:29] <SanketMedhi> sri_: I can connect
[07:29] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> yo fellow peeps
[07:29] <skavenge> baseball0081, this is on an already installed ubuntu? or booting the livecd?
[07:29] <baseball0081> so how do i no if it is
[07:29] <SanketMedhi> jlo
[07:29] <sri_> SanketMedhi, u know where the discussion takes place?
[07:29] <baseball0081> skavenge: booting the live cd
[07:30] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> does anyone know how i can install thunderbird?
[07:30] <SanketMedhi> baseball0081: you can't even the live cd?
[07:30] <KJ-ro> hi there....
[07:30] <skavenge> baseball0081, try booting with ide=nodma in grub
[07:30] <SanketMedhi> Echodrive-Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[07:30] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> doesnt work
[07:30] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> stupid apt-get wont do anything
[07:30] <KJ-ro> how could i mount an ext3 fs with write permision to all ... at boot ?
[07:30] <SanketMedhi> Echodrive-Ubuntu: apt-get is not stupid
[07:30] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> it took me like 3 hrs to figure out why my floppy wont work
[07:30] <sri_> SanketMedhi, what is the process??
[07:30] <KJ-ro> Echodrive: go in main menu
[07:30] <baseball0081> skavenge
[07:31] <baseball0081> skavenge: how do i do that.. im a complete noob
[07:31] <KJ-ro> Echodrive: and use add/remove application
[07:31] <SanketMedhi> Echodrive-Ubuntu: open synaptic, edit the prefs to enable disabled repositories
[07:31] <SanketMedhi> Echodrive-Ubuntu: yeah you can do that too
[07:31] <sri_> can any one tell the chat takes place on python(i try #python )but it is displaying a message that u have entered into a wrog location
[07:32] <SanketMedhi> #python
[07:32] <SanketMedhi> sri_: what client?
[07:32] <SanketMedhi> sri_: are you regged on freenode.irc.net?
[07:32] <KJ-ro> people.. how to mount hdd at boot... so that everybody can write to it  (and more important how to mount a writable NTFS partition)
[07:32] <sri_> SanketMedhi, no
[07:32] <anders_> anyone that is good at xubuntu here?
[07:32] <skavenge> baseball0081, i believe you just hit escape when the screen loads up to pick if you want to load the cd, etc, then add ide=nodma to the line
[07:33] <SanketMedhi> !freenode
[07:33] <ubotu> freenode is the IRC network that you're on! See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[07:33] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> add applications did not work either
[07:33] <sri_> SanketMedhi, ya i am asking about this type of discussion....
[07:33] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> get this message The application can not be found in your archive. This usually means that it is not available for your hardware plattform.
[07:33] <baseball0081> skavenge: ok
[07:33] <SanketMedhi> sri_: go to http://freenode.net/faq.shtml and get urself regged
[07:33] <sri_> SanketMedhi, k 1m
[07:34] <SanketMedhi> anders_: no, but still ask :)
[07:34] <ketetha_> omg. haha the offtopic chat is the best. go there.
[07:34] <HorzA> how can i see what folders in a another folder that are over 10 days old in console?
[07:35] <ketetha_> @lart SanketMedhi.
[07:35] <ketetha_> bye
[07:35] <buggzero> how do i fund out my hd number for grub, I.E. (hd1,0)
[07:35] <SanketMedhi> ketetha_: goodbye
[07:35] <SanketMedhi> !grub
[07:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:35] <SanketMedhi> !tell buggzero about grub
[07:35] <SanketMedhi> did that work? :S
[07:36] <skavenge> probably
[07:36] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/filter_results.aspx?strTypes=all&ProductID=865&OSFullName=Linux*&lang=eng&strOSs=39&submit=Go%21
[07:36] <SanketMedhi> ok
[07:36] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: ok
[07:36] <skavenge> otherwise you can use !grub > username
[07:36] <buggzero> thank you
[07:36] <SanketMedhi> skavenge: ok
[07:37] <sri_> i am leaving
[07:37] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: believe it or not, but I am actually downloading that :P
[07:37] <SanketMedhi> ok goodbye
[07:38] <SanketMedhi> has anyone tried Horde?
[07:38] <papo> SanketMedhi: we are using horde, though not related to ubuntu
[07:39] <SanketMedhi> papo: I gave installing it. it has So many dependencies
[07:39] <ketsugi> Does Gnome have a font manager?
[07:39] <SanketMedhi> gave up*
[07:39] <CokeNCode> quick question guys, i was downloading something with lynx ... having ssh'd into my pc at home, however, i lost my connection and the download got cancelled. What software can I use so that i can keep stuff running when i ssh, even if i lose my connection ?
[07:39] <SanketMedhi> ketsugi: try System>>Prefs>>Fonts
[07:40] <ketsugi> nah, that my font preferences
[07:40] <polpak> SanketMedhi, for web development frameworks, I prefer the pythonic ones.. php is so ugly
[07:40] <ketsugi> I want to manage my font library
[07:40] <papo> SanketMedhi: I don't know about the packages, but native horde needs wenserver, php, a database and some pear stuff and that's it
[07:40] <Stormx2> Program is asking me to move a program to a bin directory, suggests usr/local/bin, but this doesn't exist apparently. Where should I move it instead?
[07:40] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: lol ok
[07:40] <skavenge> CokeNCode; 'screen' possibly
[07:40] <papo> CokeNCode: use screen or nohup
[07:40] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: tell me how it goes for you'
[07:40] <SanketMedhi> papo: the perl modules required are too many
[07:41] <papo> SanketMedhi: huh? why does it need perl?
[07:41] <CokeNCode> skavenge is there at an 'apt-get' for that ?
[07:41] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: I won't install it , just check the code
[07:41] <skavenge> CokeNCode; should be yes
[07:41] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: it came out in '04, so it might need some older modules or seomthing
[07:41] <papo> CokeNCode: the package is called 'screen' as the binary is
[07:41] <CokeNCode> skavenge ... ok, thanks
[07:41] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: ok hold on
[07:41] <CokeNCode> i'll disconnect and search for it
[07:41] <godtvisken> Can I search for a package using apt-get or some other commandline tool?
[07:42] <papo> godtvisken: you can use apt-cache search <pattern>
[07:42] <ketsugi> godtvisken: apt-cache search packagename
[07:42] <godtvisken> search for one in the repository
[07:42] <jeff_> godtvisken: yeah, apt-cache search
[07:42] <godtvisken> thanks
[07:42] <SanketMedhi> godtvisken: sudo apt-get search
[07:42] <SanketMedhi> yeah same thing
[07:42] <godtvisken> hehe thanks all
[07:42] <jeff_> godtvisken: nop
[07:42] <SanketMedhi> godtvisken: thrz also something called adept
[07:42] <middleclass> how do I exit xserver and keep it from relaunching?
[07:42] <godtvisken> SanketMedhi, ?
[07:42] <SanketMedhi> godtvisken: it has a good interface
[07:42] <Carmen-> Does ANYONE happen to have some good: root-tail dmesg command examples???
[07:42] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> SanketMedhi thnx mate,, apt-get is now installing thunderbird
[07:43] <godtvisken> ok
[07:43] <SanketMedhi> Echodrive-Ubuntu: np
[07:43] <jeff_> godtvisken: he means that you can also use Adept package manager to search for packages
[07:44] <yum> Hello, I want to have a different grub splash screen. I entered this line in the menue.lst: "splashimage=(hd0,0) /boot/grub/screens/frag.xpm.gz ". But it doesn't work. This are my other entries in the menue.lst: "root		(hd0,4), kernel		/vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-386 root=/dev/hde9 ro quiet splash". The boot partition is on: "/dev/hde5               188168    32146    145983  19% /boot"
[07:44] <Some_Person> Is there any way to get my Conexant HSF modem on the net for free without 14.4 kbps capping?
[07:45] <Stormx2> any ideas what I could do to solve this: tempest_for_mp3: mp3player.cpp:134: int main(int, char**): Assertion `input != __null' failed.
[07:46] <thomas_> hi
[07:46] <valehru> !vncserver
[07:46] <ubotu> I know nothing about vncserver - try searching bots.ubuntulinux.nl, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:46] <valehru> !vnc
[07:46] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[07:46] <thomas_> someone here knows how to configure the Desktop under ubuntu Dapper
[07:47] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: i can also pastebin the dri.log if that helps
[07:47] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: no its fine
[07:47] <fdsd> is ubuntu bigger than gentoo yet?
[07:47] <polpak> thomas_, define "configure the Desktop" ?
[07:47] <Dial_tone> I need a command line mass id3 tagger
[07:47] <Some_Person> God I hate my modem!!!
[07:47] <Ramunas> fdsd: by the number of users?
[07:47] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: I think its some prob with the package itself
[07:47] <fdsd> Ramunas, yeah
[07:48] <Some_Person> Capped at 14.4kbps unless I pay Linuxant $20
[07:48] <thomas_> what devices are shown on the desktop
[07:48] <Dial_tone> fdsd, distrowatch.org
[07:48] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: should i try to use alien and install the rpm?
[07:48] <Ramunas> fdsd: it's the most popular distro :P
[07:48] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> lol what is linuxant?
[07:48] <n0l0nX> ciao
[07:48] <Some_Person> Linuxant is non-free Conexant modem drivers
[07:48] <polpak> thomas_, devices like?
[07:48] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> MUHUAHAHA
[07:49] <geeksauce> Some_Person, are you on dial-up?
[07:49] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> thats f**ed up
[07:49] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> they should let you use any o/s you want
[07:49] <col-panic> conexant... im sure there's a free driver somewhere
[07:49] <Some_Person> Linuxant charges $20 to use their driver
[07:49] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: I don't think it will work but you can give it a shot
[07:49] <thomas_> my partitions or the CD-Rom etc.
[07:49] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: also make a post at UbuntuForums.org
[07:49] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> go cable
[07:49] <col-panic> Some_Person, look around more, that's a scam
[07:49] <jeff_> will do
[07:49] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: will do
[07:49] <Some_Person> No, Linuxant is  division of Conexant
[07:50] <Some_Person> Conexant made the modem
[07:50] <col-panic> Echodrive-Ubuntu, cable companies are stupid. they surround my area, but won't go up my street.
[07:50] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> yer just do a search for a linux driver for a conexant modem
[07:50] <col-panic> Some_Person, I gather that. I'm not 12.
[07:50] <geeksauce> Some_Person, is it dial-up access though?
[07:50] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> you shouldnt have to pay for something like that
[07:50] <col-panic> ^^ i agree
[07:50] <Some_Person> Dial Up
[07:50] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> you already paid for the modem
[07:50] <Some_Person> exactly
[07:50] <col-panic> I have an intel 536ep, and my linux driver was free :|
[07:50] <col-panic> Intel's a bigger co. too, youd think THEYD charge but they dont.
[07:50] <synd2> Does Ubuntu work with AOL dialup?
[07:51] <SanketMedhi> jeff_: do you have the CD which came with your hardware , try that too
[07:51] <geeksauce> i have never once heard of having to pay for a driver.
[07:51] <CokeNCode> ok, i downloaded screen and installed it, so i typed 'screen lynx' and started the download ... now what do i do ? if i close the session will it continue to download ? how do i switch between virtual terminals ?
[07:51] <CokeNCode> :S
[07:51] <SanketMedhi> synd2: I am sure you can make it work
[07:51] <jeff_> SanketMedhi: no, i got this computer second hand
[07:51] <geeksauce> Some_Person, can't you just use a different modem?
[07:51] <Some_Person> no
[07:51] <marky> hi guys, anyone know where the joystick settings are in the menu?
[07:52] <Ensiferum> how can i revert to an older kernel?
[07:52] <geeksauce> why not?
[07:52] <Some_Person> unfortunately, this is the fastest modem i've ever used in windows
[07:52] <SanketMedhi> Some_Person: modems are cheap now :)
[07:52] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> lol,, i called up bigpond (my provider) and asked if it is compatible with linux systems,, and he said no.. until i found bpalogin, lol
[07:52] <SanketMedhi> Some_Person: modems are not fast :P
[07:52] <Ensiferum> theres only 2.6.15 in synaptic for dapper :/
[07:52] <SanketMedhi> Ensiferum: ?
[07:52] <Ensiferum> SanketMedhi: ?
[07:52] <Ramunas> how do i get back add/remove apps in my Applications menu, its gone
[07:52] <col-panic> Some_Person, I paid $1 each for my 536eps at a comp 'bargain bin'
[07:52] <TheStonepedo> i'd like to use a script to make my ubuntu box automatically occasionally 1)soft reset my router using its webpage interface. 2)stop and restart apache2 and 3)run ddclient
[07:52] <colk> ew modems
[07:52] <colk> to slow
[07:52] <SanketMedhi> Ensiferum: what, kernel?
[07:52] <colk> ;P
[07:52] <geeksauce> Some_Person, i'll be happy to send you a 56k modem with drivers for the cost of shipping.  i have a million of them laying around the house collecting dust.
[07:52] <LeaChim> Ramunas, go to applications, accessories, alacarte menu editor
[07:52] <TheStonepedo> is that a cron kind of thing?
[07:53] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> adsl has come down in price heaps,, just consider going broadband
[07:53] <Ensiferum> SanketMedhi: im using the one dapper. 2.6.15  i think
[07:53] <col-panic> ew if you are lucky enough to get cable service on your street
[07:53] <Ramunas> LeaChim: no such thing there
[07:53] <col-panic> i live on the right fork of this road, and the left fork gets cable :S
[07:53] <SanketMedhi> Ensiferum: I thought that was a question :)
[07:53] <Ensiferum> SanketMedhi: it is
[07:53] <LeaChim> Ramunas, open a terminal and type alacarte
[07:53] <col-panic> Some_Person,  listen to geeksauce that aint a bad deal
[07:53] <Echodrive-Ubuntu> col-panic: ask if you can wi-fi with your neighbour