[11:12] <Wilow> ind out which is my boot parition.
[11:12] <reka> daniels: *sigh* thanks.
[11:13] <reka> Wilow: 'sudo fdisk -l' maybe?
[11:15] <Wilow> reka: Can you confirm that will work?  I have to reboot this computer.
[11:15] <mouarffr> reka,  posted now
[11:15] <ilba7r> hi i installed gtk2_qt theme manager so i can manage the fonts from kde. Unfourtanetly it messed up all my gtk fonts. I removed it but still the fonts are messed up. ANY ONE KNOW HOW CAN I RETRIVE THE DEFAULT FONTS FOR GTK APPLICATIONS
[11:15] <reka> Wilow: i'm not certain actually...but when  use that, i get a 'Boot' column, and and asterix on /dev/hda1 which is my windows partition
[11:16] <the_walrus> I've added the backport repository, and I cant get flash installed
[11:16] <the_walrus> i cant even find the package
[11:16] <Wilow> reka: brb
[11:16] <hondje> flashplugin-nonfree IIRC, it's in multiverse
[11:16] <erirlar> when i uninstall an app in Synaptic how can i make it to also remove it's dependencies?
[11:16] <the_walrus> hondje, thats what I thought, I cant find it anywhere though
[11:17] <hondje> what do you mean, find it?
[11:17] <tobi_> daniels: still no success :(
[11:17] <the_walrus> well, I do "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[11:17] <abhayks> erirlar: dep clean
[11:17] <reka> mouarffr: sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange
[11:17] <the_walrus> tells me it cant be found, so I search in synaptic, cant be found
[11:17] <tobi_> daniels: the postinst script ran through but it changes nothing
[11:17] <erirlar> abhayks: thanks
[11:17] <hondje> the_walrus: do you ahve multiverse repos?
[11:17] <the_walrus> I think so
[11:17] <DarkLight> hey guys, me again...
[11:18] <the_walrus> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[11:18] <the_walrus> would that line do it?
[11:18] <hondje> nope
[11:18] <daniels> tobi_: did you install xkeyboard-config?
[11:18] <the_walrus> ok, then no I dont have multiverse repo's
[11:18] <mouarffr> reka, monitorrange: 30-83, 56-76
[11:18] <hondje> go above, see the line that has universe in it, archive.ubuntu.something/hoary universe ?
[11:18] <tobi_> daniels: sure
[11:19] <DarkLight> zenrox: I mounted it to "home/ubuntu/disk" but I still cant see the content of my mounted partition :(
[11:19] <tobi_> daniels: and the xkbcomp also exists
[11:19] <the_walrus> deb http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary main restricted, that line?
[11:19] <hondje> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[11:19] <DarkLight> I used cmd: sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /home/ubuntu/disk
[11:19] <hondje> that line
[11:19] <the_walrus> k
[11:20] <hondje> add the word multiverse after universe
[11:20] <the_walrus> sweet, thanks
[11:20] <mouarffr> reka, This not seems to be a conf problem.. On Gnome I only have 640*480 and 60hz
[11:20] <hondje> then run apt-get update and then you can do it
[11:20] <abhayks> DarkLight: " sudo ls /home/ubuntu/disk"
[11:20] <daniels> tobi_: ugh, weird
[11:20] <daniels> tobi_: let me check it out
[11:20] <the_walrus> thanks hondje
[11:20] <reka> mouarffr: i entered your monitor rates you gave me in the 'Monitor' section, which is what you would've gotten if you weren't so lazy and just followed the wiki instructions. :P
[11:20] <tobi_> daniels: yeah! btw - /etc/X11/xkb and the rules subdir where only root-accessible
[11:20] <reka> mouarffr: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/658
[11:20] <abhayks> DarkLight: Please ensure that /dev/hda1 was mounted properly
[11:20] <daniels> tobi_: oh, cool
[11:21] <abhayks> use "mount" to display all mounts
[11:21] <DarkLight> I mouted it correctly, (it didnt say any error message)
[11:21] <reka> mouarffr: replace your xorg.conf file with that, then restart X with a ctrl+alt+backspace
[11:21] <tobi_> daniels: but i changed that anyway... could you inform me via /query if you find something? i'll be idle then...
[11:21] <DarkLight> but when I open the mouted location (disk folder) it say that only root can show that or something like that
[11:22] <DarkLight> btw "sudo ls home/ubuntu/disk" >> No such file or directory
[11:22] <abhayks> DarkLight: u did not give the normal user the permission to see mounted parttetion
[11:22] <DarkLight> abhayks: aaaha :) and, how can I do that? :D
[11:23] <mouarffr> reka, If I kill gdm and launch startx it's work
[11:23] <mouarffr> reka, but if the computer startx with gdm it's only on 640*480 :(
[11:24] <reka> mouarffr: did you do what i said?
[11:24] <hondje> but if it works w/out gdm, then it should be configured fine
[11:24] <mouarffr> reka,  yep but i did not restart gdm until the changes
[11:24] <mouarffr> reka,  let's restart gdm to see what it does
[11:25] <mouarffr> reka, seems to work better :)
[11:25] <reka> mouarffr: fixed?
[11:25] <DarkLight> *angry_with_mounting_ntfs_partitions* :(
[11:26] <mouarffr> reka, didn't xorg able to do this alone ?
[11:26] <reka> what do you mean?
[11:27] <mouarffr> reka, on my debian I didn't put the settings
[11:27] <mouarffr> reka, and it's working great
[11:27] <McYoda> Hello world. Umm, I have a slight problem with Apache (1.3.33), I wonder if anyone could help? The problem is that I have drwxr-xr-x access to my /images folder, but still I get 403 error. I have also <Directory> configured as Allow from all. What could be the problem?
[11:27] <reka> mouarffr: likely then that debain detected your monitor correctly and ubuntu did not
[11:27] <Wilow> reka: it didn't work
[11:27] <Wilow> "cannot open /proc/partitions"
[11:28] <Wilow> I did it through user and root
[11:28] <Wilow> fdisk -l
[11:28] <reka> mouarffr: it's  a *very* common problem.  i myself have to do it when i reinstall.
[11:28] <mouarffr> reka, yep seems to be something like that, thanks for your help
[11:28] <reka> sure, next time try the wiki at least
[11:28] <Tomcat_> McYoda: Are the files inside readable by the webserver?
[11:28] <McYoda> And, I figured that I can access the folder when I rename it to e.g /imagess or anything else. Just when the name is "images", it turns forbidden.
[11:28] <reka> when someone tells you to. :P
[11:28] <McYoda> Yes, they are, Tomcat_
[11:29] <Tomcat_> Mh. :\
[11:29] <Wilow> This is urgent I need to boot up my Ubuntu 5.04 but my MBR is erased and I don't know which is my boot parition.
[11:29] <Wilow> My Windows XP overrided Ubuntu GRUB MBR and I can't boot Ubuntu
[11:30] <Burgundavia> Wilow, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[11:30] <snowblink> Wilow, have you got a linux CD handy?
[11:30] <mouarffr> reka, I just saw the line sudo ddcprobe | grep monitorrange in the wiki :)
[11:30] <Wilow> I put the Ubuntu CD in and followed that Burgundavia
[11:30] <Burgundavia> and?
[11:30] <bojangles> what does this mean "freaking overpriced" ....what determines price?
[11:30] <Wilow> Excuse me.  I have windows XP and Ubuntu Hoary 5.04 updated.  I recently over-rided my MBR sector when I reinstall windows.  However I am now unable to boot Ubuntu.  I read on (ubuntuguide.org) that I should type "rescue" at boot and log in as root then type "grub-install /dev/hda".  Where /dev/hda is the location of my /boot partition.  However it comes up with an error message.  I think my boot partition is called something else.  So
[11:30] <Wilow> my question is how do I find out which is my boot parition.
[11:30] <mouarffr> reka, I didn't do this test as it's working on my debian.. My fault
[11:31] <hondje> !tell Wilow about windowsmbr
[11:31] <ColonelKernel> Wilow, when you do grub-install put --rescan at the end
[11:31] <DarkLight> :( mounting still wont work!
[11:31] <Wilow> grub-install --rescan
[11:31] <Wilow> no path name?
[11:31] <ColonelKernel> Wilow, I apologize its -recheck
[11:32] <Wilow> "grub-install -recheck" is the exact command, character for character roger?
[11:32] <ColonelKernel> grub-install /dev/whateveryourbootpartitionusuallyis -recheck
[11:32] <Wilow> I do not know wher emy bootpartion is or what is is named though
[11:32] <reka> that's the thing, he's not sure which is the boot partition
[11:32] <lonetree> hi guys
[11:33] <lonetree> is this the ubuntu irc channel?
[11:33] <McYoda> Yes, it seems to be it.
[11:33] <bojangles> "freaking overpriced?" by what formula do you determine the correct price?
[11:33] <golanz> yes it is lonetree
[11:33] <lonetree> thanks golanz
[11:33] <golanz> :-) lonetree
[11:33] <lonetree> :-)
[11:34] <DarkLight> lonetree: yep =)
[11:34] <lonetree> i have encounter a problem here which i do not whether any of you guys here has it
[11:34] <lonetree> do you guys enounter problem with timestamp?
[11:34] <DarkLight> abhayks: u there? =)
[11:34] <golanz> a question on usb drives: when I attach one, my dmesg doesn't tell me where it is attached (eg. sdb1)
[11:35] <golanz> how can I discover it for sure?
[11:35] <Wilow> I am rather annoyed.  I use Ubuntu so that I can have a Linux Operating System to use.  However I could have fixed this problem by reformatting and installing ubuntu again by now.  The only thing that is stopping me are my remaining files on Unbuntu.
[11:35] <lonetree> i.e, when you copy a file or a folder with file over to a network share, the folder date changes to the current date and file date changes to 1980 01 01 tues
[11:35] <ColonelKernel> Wilow, the do grub-install -recheck /dev/hda
[11:35] <ColonelKernel> sheesh
[11:35] <golanz> wilow: if you use a root partition, and a separate partition for home, you can reinstall without losing data
[11:36] <bojangles> Wilow, there are grub docs available online so you don't have to ask such questions...they are in apt-get
[11:36] <golanz> any help for usb drives?
[11:36] <marcus__> how do i watch movies on ubuntu?
[11:36] <lonetree> anyone?
[11:36] <ColonelKernel> marcus__, I use mplayer
[11:37] <marcus__> cos the ones i download are all frm widows player
[11:37] <lonetree> i use mplayer too
[11:37] <bojangles> Wilow, this way if you are busy reading the millions of documentations pages...you won't have to take anyone's time to ask any questions.
[11:37] <lonetree> works just fine
[11:37] <Wilow> I'm sick of reading articles and forums to learn linux.  They mostly all lead to the wrong direction and searching in most cases such as these is a terribly painful process of elimination
[11:37] <lonetree> i do agree with you wilow
[11:37] <marcus__> can u watch any downloaded movies on mplayer?
[11:37] <lonetree> but learning is a process
[11:37] <bojangles> Wilow, absolutely....that is why RTM is changed to RTFM....note the word fuckedup
[11:38] <Wilow> I would rather learn to program or do something else than waste my time trying to fix something so linux trivial
[11:38] <ColonelKernel> Wilow, youve been told what to do, numerous tinmes
[11:38] <housetier> http://instant-knowledge.com/ <- no learning, just clicking and knowing
[11:38] <ColonelKernel> no ones holding a gun to your head
[11:39] <Wilow> I still think a solution should be put http://ubuntuguide.org/#restoregrubmenuafterwindowsinstallation to find your home parition.  My personal opinion.
[11:39] <lonetree> so what about my question?
[11:40] <lonetree> did anyone have this problem on timestamp
[11:40] <Wilow> mplayer song
[11:40] <reka> Wilow: do you know if you installed grub on the windows partition?
[11:40] <Data> my time is too fast (AMD Athlon 64 proc w/ cpud freq scaling) Any ideas?
[11:40] <lonetree> i.e dat and time change on copy and paste to network share folder
[11:40] <Wilow> I have no idea, sorry.
[11:40] <marcus__> how do i download mplayer?
[11:40] <Wilow> I selected install Ubuntu on largest free space available
[11:40] <Wilow> sudo apt-get mplayer?
[11:41] <Madpilot> lonetree: start with the really obvious: you've double-check system time & date on all the comps, right?
[11:41] <lonetree> yes
[11:41] <reka> Wilow: well, assuming you did, did you ever mount your windows partition in /etc/fstab?
[11:42] <Wilow> I just mounted it when I needed to access the windows files through Linux if that is what you are referring too.
[11:42] <reka> Wilow: but you didn't use /etc/fstab?
[11:43] <Wilow> reka: no I did not.
[11:43] <Wilow> lonetree: http://www.oldskoolphreak.com/tfiles/hack/ubuntu.txt
[11:43] <erirlar> how can i change the computer name? tryed changeing it in /etc/hosts but then i couldnt log inn to Gnome
[11:43] <Wilow> go to Mplayer 1/4 of the way down
[11:44] <reka> Wilow: well that stuffs up my suggestion...have you tryed ColonelKernel's one yet?
[11:44] <reka> *tried
[11:44] <Data> erirlar, /etc/hostname
[11:44] <ColonelKernel> just add -recheck
[11:44] <Wilow> grub-install -recheck /dev/hda?
[11:44] <Wilow> I am just about to check it now, roger?
[11:44] <ColonelKernel> Wilow, if that doesnt work try -rescan
[11:44] <ColonelKernel> I cant remember which one it was
[11:45] <Wilow> brb
[11:45] <erirlar> Data: thank you
[11:45] <lonetree> I am still stuck with this date and time problem
[11:45] <orangerange> Hello, all: Do you have even a bit of a knack/eye for good design/layout? If so, please  take a second to look at a one-page handout that I will be giving to my audience. It' an openoffice file. http://koyuri.tripod.com/bigfoot.sxw or http://koyuri.tripod.com/bigfoot.odt. Please give me your advice, as to how I can better the design or layout.
[11:45] <lonetree>  anyone else here has this problem?
[11:46] <marcus__> where can i find the download for mplayer?
[11:46] <Data> please, has anybody an idea, why my time is running too fast? is that a problem with cpud frequency scaling?!?!?
[11:46] <mouarffr> arg My new workstation is now installed on ubuntu :) I will test the difference with my old station on Debian
[11:46] <bojangles> marcus__, Wilow posted a decent documentation for everyone before he left and he was careful to note the dependencies
[11:46] <lonetree> guys
[11:47] <bojangles> marcus__, but sadly they are illegal in the US as far as i know...but i don't know all the facts.
[11:47] <Madpilot> marcus__: mplayer is in Synaptic. no need to go to the web
[11:47] <orangerange> the one page paper is just a simple list of "Useful Japanese Phrases". I just want to make it look clean and pretty, and something that my audience would like to use and refer to. If you have the time, please take a look at the document as referred to above. Thank you very much! I know this is not a ubuntu-specific question, but if you have a minute of time, I'd appreciate it. Thank you. 8-)   8-)    8-)
[11:48] <orangerange> Again, the file is at http://koyuri.tripod.com/bigfoot.odt or http://koyuri.tripod.com/bigfoot.sxw. 8-)
[11:48] <lonetree> sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[11:49] <marcus__> so how do i get it then?
[11:49] <lonetree> i shall ask my question again
[11:49] <lonetree> at console
[11:49] <lonetree> type sudo -s
[11:49] <lonetree> then enter your root password
[11:49] <bojangles> lonetree, well hard to say...have you read the docs on tzinfo
[11:49] <lonetree> and then issue the command sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[11:50] <bojangles> lonetree, or maybe tzselect...not sure about ubuntu
[11:50] <wilow> THe command is "grub-install --recheck /dev/hda"
[11:50] <wilow> Response is:
[11:50] <wilow> "/dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive"
[11:50] <lonetree> tzselect?
[11:50] <j2dope> hi guys. i've got an external HDD. one partition is NTFS, the other i made to Fat32... ubuntu only mounts the Fat32 partition. how can i make it mount the NTFS (where most of my music is)
[11:50] <lonetree> time zone?
[11:51] <bojangles> lonetree, or tzconfig
[11:51] <bojangles> lonetree, not sure about ubuntu
[11:51] <lonetree> bah
[11:51] <bojangles> lonetree, you should read the docs on those
[11:51] <lonetree> it doesn't help at all
[11:51] <Raptoid> selamlar..
[11:51] <wilow> Hmm.. only 1 and a half hours wasted on a trvial linux problem which is still not solved.
[11:51] <lonetree> in fact i think this is a common problem on lots of linux distro
[11:51] <bojangles> wilow, well at least you posted some nice docs for others.
[11:52] <lonetree> i haver tried fedora core 4 , novell suse, ubuntu, gentoo, and PCBSD
[11:52] <bojangles> wilow, there are grub specific docs so you can learn more about grub
[11:52] <bojangles> wilow, and they are in apt-get
[11:52] <lonetree> all has this problem on date and time issue
[11:52] <lonetree> wierd
[11:52] <bojangles> lonetree, well what did the docs say on tzconfig
[11:52] <orangerange> nobody has a spare minute of time?
[11:52] <lonetree> I'm not sure
[11:53] <lonetree> but if tz is about time zone then i have no issue cos all are set correctly
[11:53] <lonetree> orange
[11:53] <bojangles> lonetree, well maybe you should check your bios
[11:53] <lonetree> i can't see anything there
[11:53] <wilow> I can almost assure you that I would read through half of it, get half and won't get half.  That will takes hours.  I can assure you, that idea is not even worth considering.  Just like most of the stupid linux man pages without any examples of the parameters in play in which can and can't be used together etc.
[11:53] <bojangles> lonetree, perhaps your clock is set wrong
[11:53] <orangerange> lonetree, you talking to me?
[11:53] <tobi_> daniels: you upgraded xkeyboard-config - is it already solved?
[11:54] <daniels> tobi_: yeah
[11:54] <daniels> tobi_: well
[11:54] <daniels> tobi_: the file conflicts, anyway
[11:54] <daniels> it works locally, but I'm still trying to find out why it's broken for you
[11:54] <lonetree> bojangles, if one system is like that then maybe that is the problem
[11:54] <lonetree> i have 4 boxes here
[11:54] <lonetree> all installed with different os
[11:54] <lonetree> 3 linux 1 windows
[11:55] <lonetree> all 3 linux gave the same problem on time and datre
[11:55] <lonetree> date
[11:55] <lonetree> yes orange
[11:55] <lonetree> i tried to go to the link but i can't see anything
[11:55] <bojangles> lonetree, well are the bios set correctly and are you loading any services that try to get the time from the web
[11:55] <bojangles> lonetree, perhaps at a wrong location
[11:55] <reka> wilow: i understand your frustration and personally, i would just reinstall and get it over and done with.  did you have a seperate home partition?
[11:55] <lonetree> like wat?
[11:56] <lonetree> bojangles
[11:56] <orangerange> lonetree, do you use openoffice 1.1.X? or version 2?
[11:56] <lonetree> i use 2
[11:56] <tobi_> daniels: ok, thanks! i'll upgrade and try it in a few minutes...
[11:56] <bojangles> lonetree, well i have seen some linux distros that try to sink to some external web based clock
[11:56] <lonetree> bojangles, wat issue will that have?
[11:56] <wilow> No, not in this install.  I usually do it with other Linux Distos but I'm new to Ubuntu and wanted to pretty much just Use linux not nessessary Learn linux.
[11:56] <bojangles> lonetree, and they always screw up the clock....so make sure you are not running the wrong service in  your runlevel.
[11:57] <j2dope> hi guys. i've got an external HDD. one partition is NTFS, the other i made to Fat32... ubuntu only mounts the Fat32 partition. how can i make it mount the NTFS (where most of my music is)
[11:57] <martii> hi folks
[11:57] <martii> what do you use for spam filtering with exim ?
[11:57] <marcus__> how do u get it man
[11:57] <orangerange> lonetree, i'm trying to send you file. please accept
[11:57] <marcus__> i cant seem to work it out
[11:57] <marcus__> mplayer how do get it?
[11:58] <orangerange> lonetree, i'm trying to send you the openoffice file. please accept it.
[11:58] <ilba7r> hi again somehow i managed to mess up my fonts
[11:58] <reka> wilow: ok then, you can use something like this: http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/ or this: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm to get the files you need on your ubuntu partition.
[11:58] <lonetree> bojangles
[11:58] <lonetree> tell me more
[11:58] <lonetree> what should i do?
[11:58] <ilba7r> i have a pdf file with times new roman fonts but with evince i am sure it is not displaying the right font how can i rectify that
[11:58] <orangerange> lonetree, please accept the file.
[11:59] <orangerange> lonetree, hit the "accept" or "receive" button.
[11:59] <bojangles> lonetree, what happens if you just try to use date
[11:59] <lonetree> wat is it abt?
[11:59] <orangerange> lonetree, you talking to me? If so, please say my nickname "bigfoot1".
[11:59] <reka> wilow: ...then just reinstall....take the experience with a grain of salt.  at least it will remind you next time to work out which is the boot partition before installing windows
[12:00] <Madpilot> orangerange: actually, you're not using 'bigfoot', but orangerange...
[12:00] <bojangles> lonetree, can you not correct the time with date
[12:00] <Madpilot> off to sleep. later, everyone...
[12:00] <lonetree> bojangles, wat do you mean?
[12:01] <lonetree> are you trying to say that i dun sync the time and date with time server?
[12:01] <lonetree> bojangles
[12:01] <huttan> hello, Im trying to install ubuntu on my laptop, but it always freezes on bootup on "Starting hotplug subsystem..."
[12:01] <bojangles> lonetree, what i am saying is why don't you just set the time with date or bios and take the external stuff out of your runlevel
[12:02] <wilow> reka: Windows has stopped me booting Linux
[12:02] <wilow> A very common occurrence. What happens is that Uncle Bill does not accept that any other operating system (O/S) apart from one created by Microsoft should be allowed to run on a PC. So, when you load / re-load any of Uncle Bill's O/Ss it will overwrite a part of your hard disk called the Master Boot Record (mbr). This is the bit that tells your PC, during boot up, where to find the operating system.  (Knew this already.... but AMEN)
[12:02] <bassembg> hi room
[12:02] <azerttyu> bonjour
[12:02] <bassembg> its me again
[12:02] <bojangles> wilow, well i suppose that is why MS charges $20,000 for a legal copy of windows and nobody complains.
[12:03] <bassembg> i'm trying to install my printer driver but it dosen't work  any help
[12:03] <curut> hey peep i have a question if i want to refresh the sound without restarting which resources should i kill?
[12:03] <reka> wilow: i was actually thinking of that....didn't want to start the ms-hating. :)
[12:03] <Belutz> hmmm after trying KDE and XFCE, i think Gnome is the most suitable for me...
[12:03] <huttan> Anyone have any idea ?
[12:03] <curut> is it esd?
[12:03] <bojangles> bassembg, well so far i have found 3 printers that work
[12:03] <bassembg> but i allready have one
[12:03] <wilow> Don't you Love that line ""It's business, not personal"
[12:04] <bojangles> bassembg, an HP LJ, the Brother MFC3420C and the Epson CX5400 MFC
[12:04] <bojangles> bassembg, that is all i have found that work
[12:04] <lonetree> bojangles
[12:04] <bassembg> its sumsoung scx 4100
[12:04] <lonetree> i think i have done that
[12:04] <reka> wilow: off 'the apprentice'? :)
[12:04] <lonetree> but just in case i have done wrongly
[12:04] <wilow> Yeah bro
[12:04] <bassembg> it has a linux software but wit sh extension
[12:04] <lonetree> can you let me know the steps?
[12:04] <marcus__> man i still cant get mplayer
[12:04] <bassembg> how can i run it]
[12:04] <marcus__> anybody can help me?
[12:04] <huttan> hello, Im trying to install ubuntu on my laptop, but it always freezes on bootup on "Starting hotplug subsystem...", anyone know what might be wrong?
[12:05] <bojangles> bassembg, and the Brother was quite difficult to make work...especially the scanner stuff
[12:05] <to|m> marcus__: reionstall it?
[12:05] <ColonelKernel>  does the linux-source dir one installs with apt-get have ubuntu patches applied to it or is it a vanilla 2.6.10?
[12:05] <curut> guy when i try to run mp3 it say my sound resources is being used what should i do?
[12:05] <marcus__> reinstall wat?
[12:05] <bassembg> so what to do?
[12:05] <bojangles> bassembg, but it does work as well as the Epson but the Epson is much easier to make work.
[12:05] <Belutz> huttan: what's the brand of your laptop?
[12:05] <to|m> marcus__: mplayer package?
[12:05] <marcus__> how?
[12:06] <to|m> marcus__: like the other software look in menu
[12:06] <huttan> Belutz, Toshiba
[12:06] <bassembg> what about sh files or mfp files
[12:06] <bojangles> bassembg, because you have to modify the Brother cupswrapper from cups to cupsys
[12:07] <bojangles> bassembg, however both work fine.
[12:07] <huttan> Belutz, Toshiba m-40 140 FS
[12:07] <bassembg> how can i do that
[12:07] <huttan> Belutz, sorry. M-40 148 FS
[12:07] <Whistler> i wanna reencode mp3 i use audacity
[12:07] <Whistler> but it needs
[12:07] <lonetree> bojangles, can you let me know the steps?
[12:08] <Whistler> libmp3lame.so
[12:08] <Whistler> where can i get it?
[12:08] <marcus__> so i have to restart my comp?
[12:08] <to|m> marcus__:  search ubuntu wiki 1st
[12:08] <wilow> reka: thanks for the links to extract win32 files from linux
[12:08] <bassembg> bojangles , how can i make sh files work on my linux
[12:09] <wilow> linux files from linux
[12:09] <wilow> linux files from windows
[12:09] <reka> wilow: no problem...hopefully your future experiences aren't as painful. :)
[12:10] <bojangles> bassembg, you need to get csh from synaptic
[12:10] <wilow> I still don't understand why fdisk -l isn't working
[12:10] <bojangles> bassembg, because some drivers require that particular capability
[12:10] <bojangles> bassembg, but for the most part you can use bash
[12:10] <universal> hi all
[12:10] <bassembg> ok i'll try it first
[12:10] <Whistler> libmp3lame.so
[12:10] <Whistler> where can i get it?
[12:10] <bassembg> how to use bash
[12:11] <universal> can some of u tell me were i can se details of my RAM?
[12:11] <bojangles> bassembg, there are plenty of examples...just look at a few scripts and it should become obvious
[12:11] <bojangles> bassembg, and also there is some nice 30 or so page documentation
[12:11] <bassembg> oh no i can't read any mor
[12:12] <bojangles> bassembg, what did you do?
[12:12] <universal> do u know were i can se details of my hardware?
[12:12] <to|m> how i get NUM Lock on at startup?
[12:12] <bassembg> i'm geting blind oh
[12:12] <bojangles> bassembg, oh well i have that problem too...
[12:12] <bojangles> bassembg, i bought a $1 lens that i use to read a little here and there.
[12:12] <bojangles> bassembg, when i have to
[12:13] <bojangles> bassembg, it works ok
[12:13] <bassembg> how to get csh from synaptic
[12:13] <bojangles> bassembg, well i got it from the debian web site
[12:13] <bojangles> bassembg, but you should be able to get it from several places.
[12:13] <universal> hello u there?
[12:13] <Whistler> anybody knows where can i get libmp3lame.so
[12:13] <Whistler> ?
[12:13] <universal> somebody?
[12:14] <bassembg> ok i'll search for csh , right?
[12:14] <huttan> hello, Im trying to install ubuntu on my laptop, but it always freezes on bootup on "Starting hotplug subsystem...", anyone know what might be wrong?
[12:14] <bojangles> bassembg, well if you need it....i needed it for the Brother stuff
[12:14] <bojangles> bassembg, just depends on what you are trying to do.
[12:15] <bassembg> ok
[12:15] <bassembg> all i'm trying to do is to use my laser printer
[12:16] <reka> to|m: http://freshmeat.net/projects/numlockx/
[12:16] <Nermal> huttan: boot with pci=noacpi noapic
[12:16] <to|m> reka: thx ;)
[12:17] <orangerange> hello. does anybody have a minute. I need some advice.
[12:17] <universal> how can i see what tyoe of RAM i have????
[12:17] <universal> how can i see what tyo'pe of RAM i have????
[12:17] <scaroo> daniels, ok the xkeyboard package is fixed and i could install it, xkb seems to be saner now but i still cant use the shift key to get upercased letters :/ (with a french layout), any clue ?
[12:17] <Whistler> anybody knows where can i get libmp3lame.so
[12:17] <Nermal> universal: usually when you turn your computer on
[12:18] <orangerange> Whistler, search ubuntuforums.com
[12:18] <universal> ok, yeah
[12:18] <Nermal> otherwise lspci -vv maybe
[12:18] <Nermal> might give you a clue
[12:18] <universal> Nermal, but i cant see details here in ubuntu?
[12:18] <Nermal> or the output from dmesg
[12:18] <Nermal> like I said.. maybe
[12:18] <universal> ok
[12:18] <universal> ill try
[12:18] <daniels> scaroo: no idea, sorry.  will investigate it.
[12:20] <orangerange> Hello all: before i submit a one-page document to headquarters, I'd like to get anyone's advice on how to make it more pleasing to the eye. Does anybody have a spare minute to just quickly skim over a page containing a few words?
[12:20] <orangerange> 8-) 8-) 8-)
[12:20] <marcus__> i have totem MPlayer
[12:20] <marcus__> is it any good?
[12:22] <huttan> Nermal, that doesnt fix it
[12:22] <huttan> Nermal, it seems whatever I do it stalls there =(
[12:23] <Nermal> huttan: cntrl-c it ? :|
[12:23] <Nermal> marcus__: two different products
[12:23] <huttan> Nermal, hehe nah
[12:24] <Nermal> boot with nohotplug ?
[12:24] <huttan> Nermal, how do I do that?
[12:25] <FireW0lf> erm - what display applet does ubuntu use? my gf has just installed it and cant seem to get a res better than 800x600
[12:25] <reka> !fixres
[12:25] <ubotu> it has been said that fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:25] <apokryphos> FireW0lf: she'll likely have to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:26] <bojangles> bassembg, well what laser do you have
[12:27] <bojangles> bassembg, what model what brand?
[12:27] <Nermal> huttan: well, how did you try the other thing I suggested if you don't know how to boot with kernel parameters ?
[12:27] <huttan> Nermal, I knew those kernel parameters and tried them, didnt work. Donnu what parameter for not using hotplug tho
[12:28] <Nermal> "nohotplug"
[12:28] <AMDXP> lol
[12:28] <mouarffr> FireW0lf, read the faq not like me :) add the confif of your screen
[12:29] <reka> mouarffr: :)
[12:29] <Whistler> grr.
[12:29] <ColonelKernel> I sure hope it works
[12:29] <marcus__> argh..... i have no idea how to get MPlayer is there another altenative?
[12:29] <pschulz01> Anyone here use an iPod (photo) with Ubuntu?
[12:29] <huttan> Nermal, Still wants to start hotplug subsystem...
[12:30] <mouarffr> I trying to install mp3 support but gstreamer0.8-mad is not available ?
[12:30] <reka> !repositories
[12:30] <ubotu> repositories is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[12:30] <mouarffr> apt-cache search didn't find this pac
[12:31] <Whistler> anybody can help me with audacity needing libmp3lame.so?
[12:31] <AMDXP> pschulz01: I have to send my ipod in to get the firewire port fixed =(
[12:31] <pschulz01> AMDXP :(
[12:31] <bojangles> i am glad the brother and the epson work but i sure am tired of the ink approach
[12:31] <catfox> Whistler, mouarffr: you both need to enable the extra repositories. see www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:31] <bojangles> it is just so expensive
[12:32] <mouarffr> catfox, I m on the faq right now :) tks
[12:32] <pschulz01> AMDXP: There is currently an email discussion on the ubuntu-user mailing list about it.
[12:32] <j2dope> i have a Creative Zen micro. im trying to use Gnomad with it... when i do lusb it can see my Creative Zen... but how do i 'mount' it?
[12:32] <huttan> Nermal, any idea? =)
[12:32] <pschulz01> AMDPX: I have had similar problems..
[12:32] <reka> catfox: please don't recommend ubguide
[12:32] <Nermal> huttan: so you edited your grub boot line and then hit "b" to boot it yes ?
[12:32] <bojangles> bassembg, what laser are you trying to get working.
[12:32] <reka> !ubuntuguide
[12:32] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntuguide is a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[12:32] <huttan> Nermal, yea
[12:32] <catfox> reka, why not?
[12:32] <Nermal> with pci=noacpi noapic
[12:33] <catfox> reka, i see
[12:33] <Nermal> noacpi and noapic being different things
[12:33] <AMDXP> pschulz01: without the firewire i cant do anything it doesnt have a single mp3 on it
[12:33] <Whistler> catfox i have done this
[12:33] <huttan> trying now...
[12:33] <orangerange> How do i keep "Do you have a cheaper one" line on the bottom of the left side? Take a look at  http://koyuri.tripod.com/Screenshot-6.png
[12:33] <orangerange> File is at: http://koyuri.tripod.com/bigfoot.odt
[12:33] <reka> mouarffr: if you want a valid sources.list, use this one: paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[12:34] <huttan> not working
[12:34] <pschulz01> AMDXP: .. sorry.. did you manage to use it with ubuntu?
[12:34] <Nermal> huttan: dunno then
[12:34] <catfox> Whistler, install lame-devel
[12:34] <sw> help me pls
[12:34] <huttan> Nermal, thanks anyways
[12:34] <AMDXP> pschulz01: I was going to try to use gtk-pod but i will not know till i get it fixe
[12:34] <AMDXP> d
[12:34] <Nermal> huttan: :|
[12:34] <Nermal> you could always try pci=biosirq
[12:34] <Nermal> or off
[12:35] <Nermal> or rather acpi=off
[12:35] <lonetree> bojangles, are you still there?
[12:35] <Nermal> not pci=off :D
[12:35] <huttan> put that in the boot?
[12:35] <Whistler> catfox no such file
[12:35] <Nermal> end of the kernel line as before
[12:35] <orangerange> how can i get people's attention here, i wonder.
[12:35] <catfox> Whistler, you haven't added the repository then
[12:35] <snowblink> hi - are there any programs recommended for tracking server load?
[12:36] <huttan> still freezes at hotplug =(
[12:36] <huttan> gah
[12:36] <catfox> Whistler, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines
[12:36] <reka> orangerange: perhaps by asking an ubuntu-relevant question instead of asking us to look at your work. :P
[12:36] <mouarffr> reka, tks I m going to test net speed to these mirrors
[12:36] <FireW0lf^> dammit - stupid modem
[12:36] <pschulz01> AMDXP: gtk-pod seemed to work OK., but the iPod doesn't automount. It would bee cool if it worked the same way as my USB Memory Stick
[12:36] <FireW0lf^> erm - what display applet does ubuntu use? my gf has just installed it and cant seem to get a res better than 800x600
[12:36] <Nermal> sure it freezes and not just waits ?
[12:36] <orangerange> reka, i'm at openoffice.org chatroom, but no one is responding
[12:36] <anildigital> screen resolution problem in Ubuntu
[12:36] <Nermal> pschulz01: you can get gtkpod to mount it on start uo
[12:36] <Nermal> providing you have the appropriate fstab line
[12:37] <Nermal> with a mountpoint and user as a mount option
[12:37] <AMDXP> pschulz01: my camera automounts with gnome
[12:37] <reka> !tell anildigital about fixres
[12:37] <sw> i have nat problem in Ubuntu
[12:37] <anildigital> screen resolution problem in Ubuntu
[12:37] <sw> nat problem in Ubuntu
[12:37] <orangerange> !tell orangerange  about fixres
[12:37] <apokryphos> orangerange: tell orangerange about fixres
[12:37] <bojangles> lonetree, yes  i am still around.
[12:37] <apokryphos> I think it's like that..
[12:38] <apokryphos> hm
[12:38] <Whistler> catfox http://pastebin.com/315489
[12:38] <reka> anildigital: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:38] <bojangles> lonetree, just working on other stuff
[12:38] <Whistler> heres my sources list
[12:38] <orangerange> !tell orangerange  about his life
[12:38] <reka> anildigital: keep it in the channel please
[12:38] <huttan> Nermal, where can I get older ubuntu images?
[12:38] <reka> anildigital: go to that site to fix your problem
[12:38] <huttan> maybe those dont have the same bug
[12:38] <lonetree> bojangles, ok, thanks anyway, will take your advice and try
[12:38] <orangerange> !tell orangerange  about ubuntu
[12:38] <lllmanulll> Hi there, I guess the xkeyboard-config depencies problem has already been discussed here ?
[12:38] <sw> nat problem in Ubuntu plsssssssssss
[12:38] <anildigital> my resolution get set to 640*480 everytime I reboot
[12:38] <Nermal> huttan: erm.. you on hoary atm ?
[12:39] <huttan> Nermal, yea
[12:39] <orangerange> !tell orangerange  about shuttleworth
[12:39] <reka> orangerange: /msg ubotu <term>
[12:39] <Nermal> I imagine you can get them off ubuntu.com
[12:39] <Nermal> !warty
[12:39] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, Nermal
[12:39] <huttan> Nermal, what should I get ?
[12:39] <reka> anildigital: go to that site to fix your problem
[12:39] <bojangles> anildigital, try xorgcfg
[12:39] <Nermal> warty is the older one
[12:39] <Nermal> 5.04
[12:39] <Nermal> erm
[12:39] <anildigital>  my resolution get set to 640*480 everytime I reboot
[12:39] <Whistler> catfox so anything wrong there?
[12:39] <bojangles> anildigital, and make sure your monitor will support adequate freq..to get slightly higher pixelation
[12:39] <Nermal> or is it 5.01 ?
[12:39] <Nermal> hmm
[12:39] <huttan> 5.04
[12:39] <catfox> Whistler,  have you updated apt?
[12:40] <catfox> Whistler, apt-get update
[12:40] <huttan> is the one I have
[12:40] <anildigital> 5.04
[12:40] <bojangles> anildigital, also be aware that some things are limited by the driver...not the hardware.
[12:40] <Nermal> ah
[12:40] <Nermal> :)
[12:40] <Nermal> hoary == 5.10 ?
[12:40] <PDani> hi
[12:40] <Nermal> odd numbering scheme :|
[12:40] <sw> hey somebody can't halp me? pls I must routing Ubuntu
[12:40] <Whistler> catfox yep
[12:40] <Whistler> but still nothing
[12:41] <Nermal> sw: english please
[12:41] <mouarffr> arg the package gstreamer broke all sound on my box :(
[12:41] <PDani> i've some problem with the web interface of cupsys... when i try to login on the web interface, i get the following message: Administrative commands are disabled in the web interface for security reasons. Please use the GNOME CUPS manager (System > Administration > Printing).
[12:41] <sw> english :(
[12:41] <bojangles> anildigital, for example nividia sometimes uses the same chip on their $50 boards as well as their $7000 boards...but they will supply a better driver for the $7000 boards.
[12:41] <Nermal> PDani: and ?
[12:41] <catfox> Whistler, try using synaptic and search for lame
[12:41] <Nermal> PDani: it tells you what is wrong and what to do
[12:41] <bojangles> anildigital, so just remember sometimes it can be the driver not the hardware.
[12:41] <PDani> Nermal: i would like to login on the web interface, and i don't know how could i
[12:42] <Nermal> PDani: don;t use it
[12:42] <mouarffr> gstregister saved me :)
[12:42] <Nermal> it's disabled for security reasons
[12:42] <sw> How to make Internet Connection Sharing in Ubunutu?
[12:42] <Nermal> read the error message
[12:42] <Nermal> use the gnome cups interface
[12:42] <Nermal> sw: enabled ip forwarding
[12:42] <lllmanulll> Huh, hi everyone !
[12:42] <Whistler> catfox i found it
[12:42] <PDani> Nermal: i don't like the gnome way... actually, i don't use gnome
[12:42] <Nermal> PDani: oh..
[12:42] <sw> How?
[12:43] <lllmanulll> Anybody knows how to solve the xkeyboard-config depency problem ?
[12:43] <lllmanulll> Or am I the only one experiencing this ?
[12:43] <mouarffr> Someone already tried to use Skype on Ubuntu ?
[12:43] <sw> How do I enable ip forwarding?
[12:44] <mouarffr> I can run, see my contact
[12:44] <mouarffr> but that's all
[12:44] <sw> How do I enable ip forwarding?
[12:44] <Nermal> sw: stop repeating yourself
[12:44] <Nermal> and use google
[12:44] <sw> lol
[12:44] <Nermal> or look at the ubuntuguide
[12:45] <Nermal> lol indeed, fuckwit
[12:45] <Nermal> CoC! CoC! *wave wave*
[12:45] <sw> :)))
[12:45] <Nermal> 2 hours 45 minutes.. I lasted longer than usual :)
[12:45] <Nermal> n00b fill for today
[12:46] <mouarffr> ok, the debian package of skype seems to not be stable :)
[12:46] <mouarffr> it crashed when I receive a call
[12:46] <Whistler> how can i restart sound server?
[12:46] <Whistler> cause it hang up
[12:46] <Whistler> and plays same song
[12:47] <marcus__> hey
[12:48] <PDani> i found the solution: in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf, change the User lp line to User root...
[12:48] <marcus__> im looking for a media player that can play my downloaded movies
[12:48] <huttan> Anyone know where I can find older ubuntu versions?
[12:48] <marcus__> how the hell do i get it?
[12:48] <reka> Whistler: try 'killall esd'
[12:49] <marcus__> totem sucks so wat should i use
[12:49] <Minyun> can ubuntu be set up as a mail server? or that only enterprise ed?
[12:49] <mouarffr> marcus__, vlc ?
[12:50] <pschulz01> Minyun: Not sure how to do it with postfix (ubuntu default) but if you install
[12:50] <reka> marcus__: you need to install codecs for totem to play them.  or use a player that comes with it's own, such as vlc as suggested.
[12:50] <anildigital> how to log in Ubuntu as a root in gnome session
[12:50] <anildigital>  how to log in Ubuntu as a root in gnome session
[12:50] <reka> huttan: older version of the distro?
[12:50] <pschulz01> Minyun: exim.. the debian configure script is very easy and straight forward.
[12:50] <anildigital>  how to log in Ubuntu as a root in gnome session help!
[12:51] <anildigital> help!  how to log in Ubuntu as a root in gnome session
[12:51] <anildigital>  how to log in Ubuntu as a root in gnome session
[12:51] <reka> anildigital: STOP flooding.
[12:51] <anildigital> help me!  how to log in Ubuntu as a root in gnome session
[12:51] <anildigital> pls
[12:51] <anildigital> reka, pls answer
[12:51] <reka> anildigital: https://wiki.ubuntu.com//RootSudo
[12:52] <anildigital> thanks
[12:52] <sw> me to
[12:52] <mouarffr> anildigital, this is not a good method to flood the chan :)
[12:52] <anildigital> : )
[12:52] <JayParadise> gksu
[12:53] <bojangles> Firetech, 800x600 should be all you will ever need...that is all i ever use for many years.
[12:53] <JayParadise> sudo makes konqueror usesless in some ways
[12:53] <bojangles> Firetech, if you go any higher...it takes more time to move the pixels around
[12:55] <axis> man
[12:55] <axis> lol
[12:55] <bojangles> Firetech, and if certain apps don't support 800x600...that is what apt-get remove is for
[12:55] <axis> how do you chmod access back to your home directory
[12:55] <axis> or chown
[12:55] <axis> i've tried everything
[12:55] <axis> lol
[12:55] <axis> sigh
[12:56] <axis> sudo chown axis /home/axis
[12:56] <axis> sudo chmod 700 /home/axis
[12:56] <axis> that's what i did, but that didn't help
[12:57] <axis> someone's got to know.. come on
[12:57] <chaps0063> is there anything out there that would allow me to synchronize with a windows share?
[12:57] <reka> chmod 777
[12:58] <ColonelKernel> chaps0063, smb-client
[12:58] <ColonelKernel> I have never tried it though
[12:58] <ColonelKernel> supposedly it works
[12:58] <sw> who much are 8mb in kb?
[12:58] <decaf_tekkede> sw: 8192
[12:58] <axis> reka: how do I add recursive
[12:58] <reka> axis: although mine seems to be 755
[12:58] <ColonelKernel> sw http://www.egret.net/kb__mb.htm
[12:59] <reka> axis: man chmod
[12:59] <axis> nm sa'll good
[12:59] <axis> thx
[12:59] <axis> exit
[12:59] <orangerange> hello, a question regarding saving oo Writer files: I have put some small clip art stuff into my file. Will it be saved inside the file?
[12:59] <axis> but
[12:59] <axis> i wanted 700 00 to the others oh well
[12:59] <McYoda> Ah, I got the annoying /images problem solved. There was an alias by default in httpd.conf, I had always just ignored it :-)
[12:59] <anildigital> is there kde in Ubunt?
[01:00] <anildigital>  is there kde in Ubuntu?
[01:00] <McYoda> Yes, it is called Kubuntu
[01:00] <anildigital> I hav ubuntu only
[01:00] <McYoda> see http://www.kubuntu.org/
[01:00] <anildigital> how to install KDE
[01:01] <pschulz01> Just downloaded 'TheLiveCD'! Includes live version of Ubuntu.. well done.
[01:01] <McYoda> Again, see http://www.kubuntu.org/ - download and install
[01:01] <decaf> anildigital: install kubuntu-desktop!
[01:03] <anildigital> which kernel is better 2.6.* or 2.4.*
[01:03] <anildigital> I think 2.6 is buggy
[01:03] <apokryphos> #kubuntu exists, too
[01:03] <orangerange> hello, if i give my windows os using colleagues an open office file, will they be able to convert it?
[01:04] <orangerange> hello, if i give my windows-using colleagues an open office file, will they be able to convert it?
[01:04] <HiddenWolf> anildigital, that opinion is not based on reality, it's been stable for ages.
[01:04] <HiddenWolf> orangerange, no, they won't
[01:04] <pippijn> hi all
[01:04] <McYoda> orangerange, they must have Ooo installed on their systems
[01:04] <concept10> orangerange, why dont you save the file as .doc
[01:04] <orangerange> HiddenWolf, really. Open office allows us to save files as MS office formats, but I lose some of the important formatting.
[01:05] <pippijn> I am looking for the command to remove one item from all rc.X
[01:05] <anildigital> there is no gcc in Ubuntu?
[01:05] <pschulz01> give them TheOpenCD as well...
[01:05] <pippijn> I know there is one but I forgot and can't find it anymore
[01:05] <bojangles> anildigital, well i have 2.6 running on ubuntu and 2.4 running on sarge....and to tell you the truth...i don't see much difference
[01:05] <orangerange> concept10, because i lose some of the important formatting.
[01:05] <concept10> orangerange, maybe save as PDF
[01:05] <ColonelKernel> anildigital, apt-get install build-essential
[01:05] <HiddenWolf> orangerange, and MS Office has no option to import OOO files
[01:05] <pschulz01> .. it has Ooo and Firefix.
[01:05] <orangerange> concept10, if i save as pdf, can they edit the pdf if they so choose?
[01:05] <bojangles> anildigital, i suppose it depends on if you have esoteric hardware that needs a newer kernel
[01:06] <concept10> Im not sure, anyone - can Office import PDFs?
[01:06] <catfox> concept10, i don't think it can edit them. only export
[01:06] <McYoda> anildigital, http://kerneltrap.org/node/5393
[01:06] <reka> afaik, no
[01:06] <axis> how do i save my xwindows configuration
[01:06] <concept10> orangerange, what type of formatting do you you lose when saving as .doc?
[01:07] <axis> i just install the ati-linux driver and it's saying "it's important to save your x-windows configuration file"
[01:07] <axis> where is that located
[01:07] <pippijn> anyone remembers?
[01:07] <Linux_Galore> oO 2.0 is supposed to have improved export features
[01:07] <orangerange> concept10, some table formatting. What I would like to have in the top of the column 2 goes to the bottom of column 1. In might be easier if you see the documents yourself. Would you like to see them?
[01:07] <bojangles> axis, it damn sure is
[01:07] <ColonelKernel> axis, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:08] <axis> how do i "save" it
[01:08] <bojangles> axis, you better make an extra copy just in case...and maybe keep it on a floppy
[01:08] <anildigital>  there is no gcc in Ubuntu?
[01:08] <axis> oh when it says that it just means "make a backup" ?? heah
[01:08] <anildigital> it gives package not installed
[01:08] <concept10> orangerange, I understand what you are talking about.  Do they have to edit the document?
[01:08] <reka> anildigital: ColonelKernel's told you.
[01:08] <anildigital> msg
[01:08] <pschulz01> anildigital: apt-get install build-essential
[01:09] <McYoda> anildigital, try some googling. http://kerneltrap.org/node/5393 <-- according to this, GCC can be installed to ubuntu
[01:09] <bojangles> axis, well i tell you ...everytime you replace the system it helps to have a floppy  of some key config files.
[01:09] <orangerange> concept10, well, i'd like them to make changes if they think it can be made any prettier.
[01:09] <Linux_Galore> axis: you dont save it you just copy it.  ie   cd  /etc/X11/  && cp  xorg.conf   xorg.conf-bak
[01:09] <pippijn> how do I remove one init.d item from all rc.X directories at once?
[01:09] <axis> yah ok
[01:09] <axis> i just didn't understand the wording, thx
[01:10] <mdeboer> pippijn: man update-rc.d
[01:10] <bojangles> axis, now you know linux is a moving target and changes the system nearly everyday.....so you may want to keep some vital config files separate from your daily installations.
[01:10] <pippijn> mdeboer: thanks that was the command
[01:10] <anildigital> what is apt-get?
[01:10] <concept10> orangerange, have you actually open the document in word after saving with OOo?
[01:10] <Linux_Galore> anildigital: system to update and install packages via a remote server
[01:10] <orangerange> concept10, no what i did was save the file as a doc. then i opened it in open office.
[01:10] <mdeboer> pippijn: if you forget these things, apropos is your friend
[01:10] <axis> man why dos the video card driver installation want ot know what mouse i'm using
[01:10] <axis> geez
[01:10] <pippijn> apropos
[01:11] <mdeboer> pippijn: apropos rc.d
[01:11] <pippijn> :D
[01:11] <pippijn> thanks that is great
[01:11] <pschulz01> anildigital: Synaptic pachage manage uses 'apt' under the hood.
[01:11] <orangerange> concept10, i don't have any msoffice apps on my computer.
[01:11] <Linux_Galore> axis: because X manages not just your screen but the mouse
[01:11] <axis> bojangles, : i just want to get 1 stable computer up. hopefully FREEBSD, then run my VMware off that..   and just have a backup paged of each os
[01:11] <concept10> orangerange, if you have word, send it to your co-workers and see if they loose anything.  I would do it for you but I hate booting into windows :)
[01:11] <Raptoid> slm.
[01:11] <anildigital> Ok I understood all things, now I wanna break my UBUNT CD
[01:11] <bojangles> axis, well that is an idea for some.
[01:12] <ColonelKernel> cd ..
[01:12] <axis> Linux_Galore, : whats the default /dev/mouse
[01:12] <reka> pippijn: if you want to set services, install rcconf
[01:12] <Linux_Galore> axis: the graphical display in Linux is actually portable in that you can send it from one machine to the other so what mouse you have is important
[01:12] <Linux_Galore> axis: yep
[01:12] <orangerange> concept10, okay. i'll just send them the file in word .doc format and the reliable pdf format.
[01:12] <orangerange> concept10, thanks for your ears.
[01:12] <orangerange> 8-)
[01:12] <bojangles> axis, but i have no idea what stable means....as linux has been in a state of flux for over 11years and no signs of that stopping
[01:12] <pippijn> reka: I will look at that
[01:12] <orangerange> how do we draw ears on our emoticons, anyway?
[01:13] <bojangles> axis, you will be replacing the system nearly everyday
[01:13] <concept10> orangerange, you should also suggest for them to install OOo
[01:13] <pippijn> hm that looks nice
[01:13] <Linux_Galore> :-/
[01:13] <axis> ntcs-m or n LOL
[01:13] <pippijn> :)
[01:13] <bojangles> axis, that is why the BSD people say linux is a moving target
[01:13] <axis> hahaha
[01:13] <Raptoid> /dev/hda5       /media/muzik  ntfs auto,users,umask=0,ro,nls=iso8859-9  0 0
[01:13] <scanwinder> i just installed bittorrent and bittorrent-gui in ubuntu........it hasent shown up on the menu and, from a shell, typing in bittorrent wont do anything.........what is the command to open it?
[01:13] <axis> are you saying my box will be rooted within a week
[01:13] <Raptoid> read and write and executable ?
[01:13] <concept10> it just kills me how much the world is dependent upon microsoft.
[01:13] <orangerange> concept10, i guess i could do that. whether they'll bother to, i doubt it. 8-)
[01:14] <axis> .. i'm hopefully going to use net or openbsd as my firewall/gateway .. and freeBSD as my server ..
[01:14] <orangerange> concept10, OOo stands for Open Office what?
[01:14] <pschulz01> scanwinder: have a look in the menu.
[01:14] <orangerange> what does the last o stand for?
[01:14] <Linux_Galore> Linux is way better today than it was years ago... I havent crashed my machine at work for ages....put it this way Windows 2000 crashed about every 3 days Linux crashes for me about every 6 months
[01:14] <kronz> org
[01:14] <concept10> .org
[01:14] <bojangles> axis, well you can enjoy the stability of BSD but only if you can stand the devil's insignia
[01:14] <orangerange> ages= 6 months     8-)
[01:14] <Raptoid> /dev/hda5       /media/muzik  ntfs auto,users,umask=0,ro,nls=iso8859-9  0 0    ---- read and write for ntfs ?
[01:14] <orangerange> concept10, gotcha
[01:15] <Raptoid> please example
[01:15] <bojangles> axis, i prefer to work with moving targets...they have some advantages that you would just not believe
[01:15] <Will_> You just lead em less, right?
[01:15] <Linux_Galore> when I started using Linux 5 years ago I could crash it easily.......then again I had windows 98 and I used to crash the same system 3-4 times a day lol
[01:15] <concept10> Linux_Galore, I havent seen linux crash, only applications.  I do have a OLD box that locks up sometimes, i think the motherboard is going into retirement soon
[01:15] <bojangles> axis, a lot of driver manufacturers just say fuck it ...we can't keep up so take all of our driver code for free and you fix it with your ever changing kernel
[01:16] <bojangles> axis, now this is a huge benefit of a moving target
[01:16] <axis> bojangles,  the daemon is in the logo spot on the front of my pc.. i think i can stand it .. (piano black sonata)
[01:16] <scanwinder> pschulz01: as i said, its not in the menu!
[01:16] <Linux_Galore> concept10: Im finding Linux gets a bit weird after being in use for about 3 years.....drivers go a bit goofy
[01:16] <axis> well i would enjoy the stability of freebsd as my host
[01:17] <axis> and love to use different workstations
[01:17] <axis> i'll end up with VMWARE ESX server hopefully
[01:17] <axis> and run rackmount every os
[01:17] <axis> teehee
[01:17] <Linux_Galore> FreeBSD is a trade of I found.....very stable but your begging for hardware support
[01:17] <axis> Linux_Galore, : i'm lucky .. my buddy got me into bsd long ago, this computer is made for it [=
[01:18] <bojangles> Linux_Galore, well if you want hardware support...play the linux game of moving target...drive the hardware people insane until they just hand over all their drivers for you to put in your ever changing kernel
[01:18] <axis> he's a genius .. and i happend to pickup a couple crumbs.. good enough to ditch win completely
[01:18] <Linux_Galore> axis: yeah Ive got a OBSD machine and getting my nvidia stuff working at a decent speed took me ages
[01:18] <axis> *well enough
[01:18] <axis> obsd has nice networking setup .. utils.. appz.. i think it's tight
[01:18] <axis> dunno bout gui on it though
[01:18] <axis> never tried [=
[01:19] <Linux_Galore> yeah I found OBSD is very easy to admin....updates are a total no brainer
[01:19] <concept10> I have an idea, people always say drivers are the biggest problem in linux. I say only buy products that linux supports well.  Everyone doesnt expect Mac OS X to support all hardware on the planet
[01:20] <axis> can adium be installed on ubunt
[01:20] <axis> u
[01:20] <axis> is there like a MACE eg. wine
[01:20] <Linux_Galore> concept10: actually the windows is good with hardware thing depends on what hardware your using too....try installing windows on a beefed up AMD64... it isnt a happy camper
[01:21] <axis> mac osx is based on which kernel.. eitherway it's linux .. correct? .. so .. has/can adium be ported?
[01:21] <Linux_Galore> also Linux is very mature on 64 bit machines Windows is still breaking it teeth
[01:21] <concept10> Linux_Galore, the only reason windows is good for hardware because people want to support the biggest platform.  If you made a PC mouse, you would ensure that it would work with the most popular operating systems
[01:22] <Linux_Galore> axis: no OSX is based on Darwin its a BSD kissing cousin to FreeBSD.....its totally different to Linux at the kernel level
[01:22] <axis> ha, interesting
[01:22] <axis> darwin eh
[01:22] <axis> LOL
[01:22] <axis> i love it
[01:22] <axis> hahahha
[01:22] <Linux_Galore> concept10: not always true there are now cpu's that are only specific to Linux...ie "no windows support"
[01:23] <concept10> I didnt say cpus, im talking about peripherals
[01:23] <Linux_Galore> concept10: like a linksys router...hmm or an ipod
[01:24] <Linux_Galore> concept10: both can run and do run Linux but not windows
[01:24] <concept10> Linux_Galore, you dont understand my friend.  I was talking about "peripherals" not CPUS!
[01:24] <Linux_Galore> those are peripherals
[01:24] <LasseL> i just got a ipod today, and it is streching the truth too long to say that it just worked
[01:25] <Linux_Galore> anything you plug into a machine is a peripheral
[01:25] <concept10> nevermind
[01:25] <Linux_Galore> LasseL:  try www.ipodlinux.com   hack you ipod and dual boot Linux and play music and games
[01:26] <LasseL> i just have linux
[01:26] <LasseL> my windows partition crashed
[01:26] <Linux_Galore> someone is porting doom to the ipod running Linux
[01:26] <LasseL> didn't miss it (yet)
[01:26] <Davey> Linux_Galore: the original I hope?
[01:26] <Linux_Galore> well my last windows isntall corrupted about 4 years ago I ran Linux for a few months then said bugger it I need the space and formatted the windows partition
[01:27] <Linux_Galore> Davey: yep
[01:27] <shawarma> My gaim doesn't go into the foreground when someone writes to me...  How am I supposed to know that I have new messages?
[01:28] <Davey> shawarma: so Gnome says. But making that happen before they got the URGENT visual cue working was stupid
[01:29] <Davey> shawarma: I have a hacked libwnck which allows my panel to blink and thus show me new messages :D
[01:29] <Linux_Galore> LasseL: its also dual boot so you can swap back to a standard ipod
[01:29] <upoI2> I want to reinstall all the ubuntu base tool (like g++......) so that I can run kdevelop properly
[01:29] <shawarma> Davey: There's a conf option to make it jump to the foreground... Is that what they disabled?
[01:29] <shawarma> Davey: So that no matter if it's enabled or not, it doesn't do anything?
[01:29] <Linux_Galore> upoI2: remove them
[01:29] <Linux_Galore> upoI2: then install them again
[01:30] <ColonelKernel>  how do I turn off LVM/EVM management?
[01:30] <ColonelKernel>  im just using a couple of partitions and no raid/scsi stuff
[01:30] <upoI2> what's the name of the base files then?
[01:30] <upoI2> is there a big package?
[01:30] <ColonelKernel> standard /boot,/,swap setup
[01:30] <Linux_Galore> upoI2: for what
[01:30] <ColonelKernel> sort of
[01:30] <Linux_Galore> upoI2: just remove gcc
[01:30] <Davey> shawarma: see this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39776&highlight=GAIM
[01:31] <ColonelKernel> shwarma - mmm - I sure do miss that stuff
[01:31] <Davey> shawarma: yeah, Gnome basically stopped all applications being able to do that
[01:31] <ColonelKernel> thats like middle eastern carls jr
[01:31] <Linux_Galore> I usually like to have  / /home / /swap /var
[01:31] <ColonelKernel> you pay like 2 bucks and get a lb of roast lamb in a pita with all sorts 'o trimmings
[01:31] <shawarma> Davey: That must the stupidest thing they've done yet, and that's saying a lot!
[01:32] <Davey> shawarma: The real issue is a window taking your cursor focus when you get a message, so they fucked up and just make it not possible for a window to do anything :/
[01:32] <Linux_Galore> ColonelKernel: oooh yummy lots of hormone injected cheap lamb........bet you have massive man boobs
[01:32] <Davey> shawarma: I'm sure they'll get closer to that goal, but for now, that libwnck patch is great :D
[01:33] <ColonelKernel> Linux_Galore, lol - nah, thats what clenbuterol is for
[01:33] <Linux_Galore> ColonelKernel: hai look found cheap bra's on ebay
[01:33] <ShaneAu> How do I enable shell colours in Debian? (Eg. Green for executable files etc).
[01:34] <ColonelKernel> nah mon - quasi illegal asthma medications are much better - ask baseball players.
[01:34] <shawarma> Davey: Hey, it sends it to the foregound. Excellent.
[01:34] <shawarma> Davey: Sometimes the gnome folks are asshats.
[01:35] <shawarma> Davey: Seriously.
[01:35] <reka> ShaneAu: you mean straight console (i.e. without X)?
[01:35] <concept10> Davey, it is about keeping your focus not having apps pop in your face whilst you are working on something
[01:35] <ShaneAu> Yes
[01:35] <reka> ShaneAu: or gnome-terminal?
[01:35] <ShaneAu> Console sorry.
[01:35] <Linux_Galore> ColonelKernel: yeah get sus when you see baseball players with guts the big enough to feed a small village in afica being called sport profeesionals
[01:35] <shawarma> Davey: Thanks for your help!
[01:35] <Linux_Galore> grr
[01:35] <Linux_Galore> africa*
[01:36] <reka> ShaneAu: not certain, but try looking in ~/.bashrc
[01:37] <reka> i *think* console uses bash....
[01:37] <ShaneAu> hum
[01:38] <reka> Davey: me too actually...
[01:39] <ShaneAu> :( well, it is Debian actually, not Ubuntu, I joined the wrong channel, but asked regardless (I use Uuntu a lot at home)
[01:39] <ShaneAu> Ubuntu*
[01:39] <ShaneAu> Red hat has the colors defualt also
[01:40] <Linux_Galore> ShaneAu: http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/g/c/gca101/linux_howtos/bash_prompt.html
[01:40] <goroth> hello
[01:40] <ShaneAu> humm it was much simpler then that
[01:40] <ShaneAu> I've done it befor
[01:40] <ShaneAu> But forget the command
[01:41] <djp> anyone know if there is software to create photo-cd's under linux? i'm using the ubuntu hoary distro...
[01:41] <ShaneAu> It was short and sweet
[01:41] <FireW0lf> erm - what display applet does ubuntu use? my gf has just installed it and cant seem to get a res better than 800x600 (sorry - having real bad connection probs here with my ISP)
[01:42] <Linux_Galore> heres how to set the colours for different file types for the ls command -> http://www.linux-sxs.org/housekeeping/lscolors.html
[01:43] <reka> !tell FireW0lf about fixres
[01:43] <Linux_Galore> ShaneAu: that link is what your after the other one was wrong sorry
[01:44] <ShaneAu> alias ls='ls --color'  - That's the one! :D.
[01:44] <ShaneAu> Thanks Linux_Galore.
[01:44] <FireW0lf> reka: well, im not familiar with ubuntu, and my gf is new to linux, so i assumed she went for an "easy" distro - applets to deal with settings
[01:45] <reka> FireW0lf: again, i'm puzzled by your use of the word 'applets'. :)  but i can walk you through if you like.  do you have access to her machine?
[01:47] <Linux_Galore> trying to remember a firewall distro that has a really good ls -- colours setup
[01:52] <erudeye> hello
[01:52] <erudeye> can i watch my tv tuner on ubuntu?
[01:53] <HrdwrBoB> possibly
[01:53] <HrdwrBoB> most likely yes
[01:54] <erudeye> how?
[01:57] <erudeye> hello
[01:57] <erudeye> no one here?
[01:57] <anacron> erudeye: check out what apt-cache search tv says
[01:58] <domster> mythTV?
[01:58] <anacron> maybe all guru's have coffeebreak now
[01:58] <domster> as a guess anyway
[01:58] <lonetree> anyone here encounter time and date issue on file?
[01:58] <lonetree> i mean with files
[01:58] <erudeye> apt-cache?
[01:59] <lonetree> erudeye, you toking to me?
[01:59] <domster> ooh. 'bttv'
[01:59] <anacron> erudeye: or just try that mythTV, install with sudo apt-get install mythtv, or something like that
[01:59] <lonetree> hello?
[01:59] <erudeye> hmmm
[01:59] <lonetree> anyone there?
[01:59] <anacron> no
[01:59] <domster> For almost all TV boards there is a great module included with the 2.4.x+ tree called BTTV (http://bytesex.org/bttv/). Most distrubtions include it as a loadable module that you can just modprobe or insmod.
[02:00] <anacron> bytesex.org :D haha
[02:00] <erudeye> hmm ok
[02:01] <anacron> what's insmod?
[02:01] <anacron> or what does it do
[02:01] <shawarma> anacron: It loads a driver into the kernel.
[02:01] <lonetree> i shall ask again
[02:01] <anacron> shawarma: okay
[02:01] <domster> no answer means no I guess lonetree
[02:02] <feugan3333> Does anyone know of a way to search packages for a specific file. E.g I'm looking for the gtk include files gtk/gtk.h but I not sure which package to install?
[02:02] <shawarma> lonetree: What do you mean time and date issues?
[02:02] <lonetree> anyone here has problem with file date and time problem, on copy paste
[02:02] <lonetree> ok
[02:02] <shawarma> lonetree: Could you be a bit more specific as to what the problem is?
[02:03] <lonetree> shawarama, I just notice this recently, I copied a folder with files from my ubuntu and paste it on a network folder
[02:03] <Whistler> is it possible to install gtk?
[02:03] <Whistler> with apt-get
[02:03] <lonetree> then i notice the date and time changes
[02:03] <domster> Whistler, certainly
[02:03] <lonetree> the files on the new location changes to 1980 01 01 Tues 0800hr
[02:03] <shawarma> lonetree: A network folder? What kind?
[02:04] <lonetree> any kind
[02:04] <Whistler> domster how its called?
[02:04] <domster> apt-get install libgtk
[02:04] <shawarma> lonetree: For example...
[02:04] <lonetree> it could be a windows shared folder
[02:04] <lonetree> it could be a linux shared folder
[02:04] <lonetree> i.e via samba
[02:04] <Whistler> E: Couldn't find package libgtk
[02:04] <shawarma> lonetree: Good. That was what I was looking for. There's other kinds of remote folders, you see.
[02:04] <feugan3333> domster: do you know which package gtk/gtk.h comes from?
[02:05] <lonetree> like?
[02:05] <shawarma> feugan3333: libgtk2.0-dev, probably.
[02:05] <shawarma> lonetree: sftp
[02:05] <lonetree> sorry?
[02:05] <cion> hey guys I want to buy a new PC, but I'd like to check what is the best hrdware supported by ubuntu, is there any info arrund?
[02:05] <domster> feugan3333: yeah, it'd be the -dev if you want the headers
[02:05] <HrdwrBoB> cion: I can give you a few recommendations if you like
[02:05] <shawarma> lonetree: sftp is a kind of ftp through an SSH tunnel. The gnome vfs system allows you to access it as a folder.
[02:05] <cion> yeah thx
[02:05] <HrdwrBoB> cion: most 'normal' hardware is fine
[02:06] <HrdwrBoB> what do you want?
[02:06] <feugan3333> Thanks
[02:06] <cion> likw what?
[02:06] <Whistler> libgtk2.0-dev so i should use this for creating c programs with gui?
[02:06] <HrdwrBoB> I would recommend an athlon64 based machine with an nvidia card
[02:06] <domster> Whistler, you could. 'should' is up to you
[02:06] <lonetree> i dun really get it shawrma
[02:06] <shawarma> Whistler: Possibly.
[02:06] <cion> what is normal hardware?
[02:06] <HrdwrBoB> cion: disks/motherboards etc
[02:06] <hindley> WHOIS hindley
[02:07] <lonetree> are you trying to tell me to use sftp instead of samba?
[02:07] <Whistler> ok thx ill try
[02:07] <Whistler> =]
[02:07] <cion> proc and vid card?
[02:07] <domster> cion: stay away from cheap modems and ATI. pretty much everything else works great.
[02:07] <HrdwrBoB> cion: yeah
[02:07] <shawarma> lonetree: I was just pointing out that saying "a remote folder is giving me problems" is not sufficient for anyone to answer your queston. There's different kinds of remote folders and definietely different kinds of "problems" to be experienced. Details, my friend, details. The more details you provide, the more likely you are to get a good answer.
[02:07] <cion> athlon?
[02:07] <HrdwrBoB> yep
[02:07] <HrdwrBoB> athlon64
[02:07] <HrdwrBoB> and an nvidia graphics card
[02:08] <cion> ok
[02:08] <cion> i need t work with audio too
[02:08] <lonetree> ok isee
[02:08] <HrdwrBoB> what sort of audio?
[02:08] <shawarma> lonetree: I'm not telling you to use sftp.
[02:08] <lonetree> well, my set up is just a simple network
[02:08] <HrdwrBoB> the envy series of cards is highly recommended by a friend of mine
[02:08] <HrdwrBoB> envy24 will do 24/96
[02:08] <cion> no very hard work, just import, encode and make cd's
[02:08] <lonetree> you noe? the workgroup network
[02:08] <domster> cion: onboard audio will almost definatly work for new hardware
[02:09] <HrdwrBoB> oh, well then I'd recommend a soundblaster card of almost any time
[02:09] <lonetree> i get what you mean shawrma
[02:09] <shawarma> lonetree: My network is also simple. It just doesn't use samba.
[02:09] <HrdwrBoB> domster: though without hardware mixing and occasional problems
[02:09] <lonetree> u din said clearly just now
[02:09] <cion> need something more heavey on audio like creative
[02:09] <HrdwrBoB> yeah
[02:09] <HrdwrBoB> they all work
[02:09] <cion> is it welle supported by ubuntu?
[02:09] <domster> true HrdwrBoB
[02:09] <shawarma> lonetree: Good. Well, I haven't had any problems with samba like the one you're talking about, but I haven't really used it either..
[02:09] <lonetree> I use samba because i have windows system in it
[02:09] <cion> ok
[02:09] <HrdwrBoB> cion: yes
[02:09] <HrdwrBoB> cion: creative have a fairly good open source driver
[02:10] <lonetree> if you dun mind, you could probably try it
[02:10] <cion> sorry my english is poor, what does fairly means?
[02:10] <HrdwrBoB> cion: reasonable
[02:10] <HrdwrBoB> reasonably
[02:10] <HrdwrBoB> of acceptable quality
[02:10] <cion> ok
[02:10] <cion> ok thx man
[02:10] <HrdwrBoB> no problem :)
[02:10] <cion> c'ya
[02:11] <lonetree> anyone else has this problem?
[02:11] <abe> does anyone know how to get the usb ports to read the flash drives?
[02:12] <shawarma> lonetree: The date here looks just fine.
[02:12] <lonetree> did you copy and paste it to the network shared folder?
[02:12] <hindley> abe: usb flash drives should "just work" (tm)
[02:12] <shawarma> lonetree: Yes.
[02:12] <lonetree> hmmmm
[02:13] <lonetree> well i have this problem on all my linux system
[02:13] <abe> but it doesnt, so i'm having abit of a problem
[02:13] <lonetree> fedora core, suse 9.0 and ubuntu
[02:13] <lonetree> did you do any settings to samba?
[02:13] <hindley> abe: go on, what are you trying?  ubuntu should automount and put on your desktop
[02:13] <shawarma> lonetree: No.
[02:13] <lonetree> shawarma
[02:14] <hindley> have you tried "lsusb"?
[02:14] <lonetree> did you use time server to sync your time?
[02:14] <abe> nothin appears on the desktop
[02:14] <shawarma> lonetree: Yes.
[02:14] <lonetree> ok
[02:14] <shawarma> abe: You ARE running Gnome, right?
[02:14] <lonetree> where did you copy and paste your file to?
[02:14] <shawarma> lonetree: Some share on some server.
[02:15] <lonetree> thats weird here
[02:15] <shawarma> shawarma: More specifically my home dir on a Debian file server.
[02:15] <abe> yes...
[02:15] <hindley> abe: try typing lsusb in a terminal to verify that the kernel has identified your hardware
[02:15] <lonetree> hmmmmm
[02:15] <shawarma> abe: Even better: try running dmesg in a term. At the very end, it should say something about a usb device being plugged in, and finding partitions... That sort of thing.
[02:16] <domster> dmesg | tail     --less scrolling!
[02:16] <shawarma> dmesg | tail -n 25
[02:16] <lonetree> shawarma: do you use nautilus to view?
[02:16] <shawarma> lonetree: Yes.
[02:16] <abe> it shows up when i type lsusb
[02:16] <abe> but still cant view anythin on it
[02:16] <lonetree> and you dun have this problem
[02:17] <lonetree> hmmmm
[02:17] <shawarma> abe: Can you check if gnome-volume-manager is running?
[02:17] <domster> abe - is it fat formatted?
[02:17] <domster> or ntfs - windows xp has a habit of doing that to flash disks
[02:17] <lonetree> the other time i tried copying files from ubuntu to a fedora shared folder, the date time changes
[02:17] <abe> where do i find gnome volume manager?
[02:17] <lonetree> and to windows shared folder, it changes too
[02:17] <shawarma> abe: ps aux | grep volume
[02:18] <lonetree> i'll be back in a few minutes shawarma
[02:18] <abe> and then after i typed ps aux
[02:19] <abe> ....
[02:20] <anacron> how can i make so that no-ip tool start's up with my ubuntu?
[02:20] <domster> check out 'boot' under settings
[02:21] <domster> the third tab along (iirc) lets you easily set start up programs
[02:22] <anacron> domster: thanks a lot
[02:23] <sw> how to install dcgui on my ubuntu?
[02:25] <sw> how to install dc++ on my ubuntu?
[02:26] <highvoltage> echo 16i[q] sa[ln0=aln100%Pln100/snlbx] sbA0D4D465452snlb xq | dc
[02:26] <sw> ?
[02:29] <domster> highvoltage: lol
[02:30] <anacron> is there a dc++ for linux?
[02:30] <anacron> i think you'll have to use something other client
[02:31] <sw> dcqui
[02:31] <sw> but how to install it , and where to get him?
[02:32] <[Spooky] > "sudo apt-get install dcgui" ?
[02:33] <sw> get it :)
[02:33] <anacron> dctc looks interesting, text based client :)
[02:33] <sinferno> hey, has anyone gotten final fantasy xi (online) working with cedega?
[02:34] <sinferno> or wine
[02:34] <sinferno> or anything
[02:40] <Sweetshark> Hi guys! I jsut installed ubuntu and am rather happy with it. However I miss the runlevel editor from gnome-system-tools - is there a reason for this?
[02:41] <jean-jacques> hello i need some heko to set up a printer
[02:41] <jean-jacques> help
[02:42] <jean-jacques> it's a network printer, and i just have its ip adress
[02:42] <monteiro> when i write dvds in k3b the buffer don't get occupied, and the velocity instead of 8x passes to 1x, anyone knows how to resolve this problem?
[02:43] <Dan_C> Hey,
[02:43] <Dan_C> I just got ubuntu CD's through, and i'm having a display issue with the livecd...
[02:44] <Dan_C> My laptop res is 1024x768 on windows, but the best ubuntu seems to want to give me is 640x480
[02:45] <JDigital`> Uh-oh! I think I broke mplayer.
[02:45] <JDigital`> I had a file playing in mplayer with the window set to "on top" and then I pushed ctrl-alt-left to go to another screen
[02:46] <JDigital`> When I come back, mplayer is playing nothing but bluescreen
[02:46] <JDigital`> mplayer continues to play bluescreen now for any file
[02:46] <lonetree> shawarma
[02:46] <lonetree> are you there?
[02:46] <Drey> :O
[02:46] <Drey> hi
[02:46] <chrissturm> JDigital`, log out, hit ctrl backspace, log in again
[02:46] <JDigital`> ok
[02:47] <lonetree> hi occy
[02:47] <Drey> i was wondering some loverly person could lend me some time
[02:47] <soulfly> hi. I must run "xmodmap" with a few parameters to get my mouse button working correclty.  where is the correct place to put such settings in the x server startup sequence?
[02:48] <mouarffr> re all Just a question about the repositories : Synergy is 1.0.14 on Ubuntu and it's 1.2 on my Debian Sarge. What is the good repository to have the same version ? or How to browse the file version ?
[02:49] <ValheruLord> hi all
[02:49] <ValheruLord> when i try to umount an fs it says it is busy
[02:49] <ValheruLord> how can i umount it
[02:49] <Drey> so the problem is i decided to try ubuntu using a live CD and it all runs happy, except the internet i read around the forum and found out that this is because of the rt2500 drivery thing i was just wondering if i follow the same instructions to make it work or if there is no point trying
[02:50] <gyaresu> ValheruLord, what type of fs?
[02:50] <soulfly> ValheruLord: user the "fuser" command to see which process are using the resource
[02:50] <mouarffr> ValheruLord, just be sure that you don't have any shell on a monted directory
[02:50] <|rockinnerd|> ValheruLord, umount -f /mount/point
[02:50] <|rockinnerd|> but u may lose data doing so
[02:50] <erudeye> where i can find tutorial about "apt" command?
[02:50] <soulfly> ValheruLord: "fuser -k" can kill the processes for you
[02:50] <[2] BoxingFiend> !apt
[02:50] <ubotu> well, apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/
[02:51] <Scrambler> hello
[02:52] <Dan_C> anyone got a clue about the low-res display issue?
[02:52] <|rockinnerd|> yay! i'm converting from slack back to ubuntu
[02:54] <mouarffr> Dan_C, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:54] <Sweetshark> Dan_C: The live-CD is propably just consevative. On a HD-install it would be fixable by "encouraging" some config-files ...
[02:55] <Dan_C> yeah, but i'd like to be able to test it properly before i potentially waste time installing it when it won't work. :)
[02:55] <Sweetshark> Dan_C: Whats you gfx-card/chip?
[02:55] <black-whisp> how do you use ftp with terminal?
[02:56] <[2] BoxingFiend> black: ftp<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[02:56] <soulfly> is "X still broken" for breezy in the topic still valid?
[02:56] <Sweetshark> black-whisp: "man ftp" will tell you. Or use wget/lynx whatever ...
[02:56] <black-whisp> thx.:D
[02:57] <ColonelKernel> ok theres a bunch of modules loaded and i'd like to keep them from doing so. I can't tell where these are loaded from, it isnt /etc/modules though - can anyone give me a clue?
[02:57] <Dan_C> Sweetshark : it's an intel onboard thing, it's crap... but it works :)
[02:57] <ColonelKernel> just a bunch of unused modules
[02:57] <ColonelKernel> im not sure what the module loading process really is in ubuntu
[02:58] <DanielC> Hello. How can I configure my floppy drive? Is there a reference I should read?
[02:59] <[2] BoxingFiend> colonel: what module you have in mind you want to remove from boot
[02:59] <Drey> :/
[02:59] <Sweetshark> Dan_C: intel810? Well, thats pretty well supported by linux and Xorg. No garantuees though for it to be configured out of the box by ubuntu ...
[03:00] <mouarffr> Dan_C, I've just installed my box with and intel integrated card
[03:00] <ram_einstein> how do you activate IrDA?
[03:00] <Will_> I never had problems with my 810
[03:00] <mouarffr> the default config was 640*480
[03:01] <Sweetshark> Dan_C: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=27029
[03:01] <chrissturm> 810 is very well supported, probably because intel submitted their drivers to xorg in source form
[03:02] <mouarffr> Dan_C,  after setting up the HorizSync and VertRefresh it works
[03:02] <chrissturm> highvoltage, i always use gmail accounts for these kinds of suicide
[03:02] <Sweetshark> highvoltage: Hey, there is gmane and RSS for that ....
[03:02] <Dan_C> mouarffr: how would I go about doing that?
[03:03] <mouarffr> Dan_C, https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FixVideoResolutionHowto  read the section about the screen setup
[03:03] <ram_einstein> how do you activate IrDA here?
[03:04] <ram_einstein> or even find out if the laptop is bluetooth enabled?
[03:04] <Drey> no one have any clue about the rt2500 thing using live CDs?
[03:05] <highvoltage> Sweetshark: gmane?
[03:05] <mouarffr> I have a version pb with synergy.. in the Universe section there is synergy 1.0.14 and synergy 1.2.2 ... But I can only install the 1.0.14 version ...
[03:07] <Sweetshark> highvoltage: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gmane <- Allows reading mail via RSS, Web or NNTP. Much more convienient than a "real" subscribe ...
[03:07] <Drakend> hello to all guys
[03:07] <highvoltage> Sweetshark: sweet. thanks, i'll check it out.
[03:07] <Drakend> I'm a total newbie to the distro
[03:07] <Drakend> and I have some questions
[03:08] <Drakend> first of all the root password: it wasn't asked during installation
[03:08] <Drakend> is this normal?
[03:08] <black-whisp> Drakend yes. :D
[03:08] <Drakend> ehehe lol
[03:08] <Drakend> and what is it?!?
[03:08] <black-whisp> you can use sudo instead.. :) the just use you normal user password
[03:09] <|rockinnerd|> well, here i go! im gonna (re) install ubuntu...
[03:09] <[2] BoxingFiend> !sudo
[03:09] <ubotu> rumour has it, sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[03:09] <Drakend> is sudo that program to execute programs with the priviliges of other user?
[03:09] <Sweetshark> Drakend: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/root
[03:09] <Drakend> :)
[03:09] <black-whisp> or you could use: sudo passwd i think
[03:09] <black-whisp> to create a root password.
[03:10] <Drakend> ahh ok... anyway ubuntu is really nice
[03:10] <Drakend> it runs well on a p3 1 ghz
[03:11] <Sweetshark> it runs . . on a K6-200Mhz with 64MB RAM
[03:11] <Sweetshark> ;-)
[03:11] <Drakend> with all the options?!?
[03:12] <Sweetshark> Without Openoffice - it doesnt fit on the 1.5GB HDD.
[03:12] <pluffsy> hello
[03:12] <Drakend> oh my god, I love linux
[03:13] <golan77> i'm trying to use qemu to try ubuntu 5.04 on my debian... I have a problem, could not boot an hd image just created... any help?
[03:13] <Sweetshark> But otherwise - yes, it runs. Awfully slow though ... I will either get some old EDO-RAM or just use twm on that machine ...
[03:14] <pluffsy> Is ubuntu any good for servers? I'm about to switch to ubuntu as my desktop OS and I was wondering if I for simplicity should switch my server over to ubuntu too.
[03:14] <Sweetshark> pluffsy: Where are you switching from?
[03:15] <to|m> where do I change icons of filetypes in gnome?
[03:15] <nilsl> Where do I find a working DC-client for Ubuntu?
[03:15] <pluffsy> Sweetshark: From Yellow Dog Linux. It's a Macintosh G3 (PPC) server.
[03:17] <Sweetshark> pluffsy: Sorry, cant help you with PPC Distros. But ubuntu as a server is pretty much just debian anyway, isnt it?  So I'll guess I'll go with that :)
[03:20] <Sam3773> Hmm same as Debian then, cheers :)
[03:21] <Scrambler> how's that for a "gut feeling?" ;-)
[03:21] <nikkia> Sam3773: iirc, 0.95 is the latest anyway
[03:21] <black-whisp> hehe.. ubuntu removed my ms addiction
[03:21] <nikkia> oh, i tell a lie, there's a 0.96 and 0.97
[03:22] <Sweetshark> pluffsy: I am gentoo guy usually. But Ubuntu is a really well done distro ....
[03:22] <Sam3773> Ahh cheers.. Im new to linux and had a few nice Gui GRUBs but on Fedora Core just a min ago it was command line based so im checking to see if this one has a GUi or not
[03:23] <Scrambler> Sam3773  what do you need a gui image in grub for?
[03:24] <Sam3773> Don't need one, just disliked the command one where i had to put kernel, then boot and all that..
[03:24] <Scrambler> Oh you mean a config tool for Grub?!
[03:25] <Dan_C> works now :D
[03:25] <Dan_C> thanks guys
[03:25] <Sweetshark> Sam3773: Ubuntus gnome-system-tools comes with a grub configurator IIRC ...
[03:25] <Sam3773> Ah i see now.. *Very new*.. Anywho, Ubuntus on 65% downloaded so i should be installing any time soon :D
[03:26] <andrewcool> Is there a way to create a partion that will not erase all current data
[03:26] <andrewcool> and how :D
[03:26] <Scrambler> andrewcool several I suppose
[03:26] <Sweetshark> http://www.gnome.org/projects/gst/screenshots/boot.jpg <- looking for something like this?
[03:26] <nilsl> Direct Connect for ubuntu? Where? (sorry for repeat).
[03:27] <Sweetshark> andrewcool: yes, use "expert" mode on the install CD ...
[03:27] <andrewcool> *confushed* :D
[03:28] <snowblink> hi - are there any issues with running sarge packages on ubuntu?
[03:28] <IFRFLYR> Hi, I'm trying to add some ttfonts to gimp under ubuntu - any idea where they belong?
[03:28] <Scrambler> ubuntu rules... printer installation has never been so easy...
[03:28] <pawan> hi
[03:28] <Dan_C> I got another challange for you, now. :D
[03:28] <Dan_C> challenge*
[03:28] <pawan> i am trying to translate gnome-user-docs any advice
[03:28] <Sam3773> Nah what i ment before i i previously had SuSE and other GRUB linux's and when i first boot it comes up a list of Os's that i want to boot, Linux, windows ect.. But in Fedora Core 4 on first boot i got a command line telling me to put the kernel things in and i got confused :P Thats all i ment
[03:29] <Scrambler> andrewcool do you have an old suse distri, there's a tool for shrinking windows partition, too
[03:29] <Dan_C> Is there any way to install a wireless (usb) mouse, without reconfiguring x-org again?
[03:30] <Scrambler> Sam3773  oh I see. just hit enter :)
[03:30] <Scrambler> Dan_C edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf directly?!
[03:30] <Sam3773> ... Does that work? Ok restarting to find out
[03:30] <Dan_C> Scrambler: I don't think that's gonna be a wise plan for me :P
[03:31] <IFRFLYR> Anyone on the fonts for gimp question?
[03:31] <Dan_C> so i'd need to reconfigure x-org ?
[03:31] <andrewcool> 	But how do i create a partion before the install...but doesn't erase everything..
[03:32] <Sam3773> OK so i cant restart because of the download.. Im told Ubuntu's better anyway so i'll wait :)
[03:32] <pawan> yep
[03:32] <pawan> we are also using the sam
[03:32] <gyaresu> join #taslug
[03:32] <andrewcool> Can somebody help me :D
[03:33] <gyaresu> sorry typo.
[03:33] <gyaresu> join #taslug
[03:33] <andrewcool> :(
[03:33] <Scrambler> xorg needs a new mouse in the config, I guess
[03:33] <Scrambler> andrewcool what's wrong :-) you are not "cool" ;-)
[03:34] <otep> andrew: wanting to dual boot?
[03:34] <adamh> Does anyone know of a repository which contains qt4 packages?
[03:34] <Scrambler> andrewcool and be careful before you demolish your existing Windows partition
[03:34] <andrewcool> noo i don't want to demlish it
[03:34] <andrewcool> demolish it*
[03:34] <Scrambler> Ah!
[03:34] <andrewcool> i want to preserve it and create a new one :D
[03:34] <Scrambler> do you happen to have PartitionMagic?
[03:34] <andrewcool> no :(
[03:34] <Scrambler> hm, bad :)
[03:35] <Scrambler> it's not hard but to be sure you just have to know that sth can go wrong shrinking NTFS or FAT
[03:35] <andrewcool> *scared* :D
[03:35] <Scrambler> get a second HDD, they're not *that*expensive anymore, y'know? ;)
[03:36] <andrewcool> but i have a 250gb hard drive :D
[03:36] <ed1t> Scrambler wat hdd did u get? and for how much?
[03:36] <Scrambler> some maxtor 80 Gig drive to around 60,- Euros
[03:37] <andrewcool> 80gb hard drive is like 50 dollars :D
[03:37] <ed1t> how much is that in $?
[03:37] <otep> wooooooooow
[03:37] <ed1t> i got 120 GB for $120
[03:37] <Scrambler> check your local vendors..
[03:37] <Sam3773> I live in England and constantly get ripped off? :P
[03:37] <otep> wish i have one of those
[03:37] <Scrambler> and quit bragging about how little you've paid for yours...
[03:37] <andrewcool> i want to use my existing hard drive :D..lol
[03:38] <Scrambler> well go ahead and scrub Windows, ya don' need it! :-)
[03:38] <andrewcool> well my sister does... :(
[03:38] <feugan3333> no she doesn't
[03:38] <Scrambler> hrhr
[03:38] <snowblink> Sam3773, ebuyer?
[03:38] <nikkia> Sam3773: the going rate for 120GB drives these days is 45ish
[03:39] <Sam3773> Im sorry what?! I paid that for a 40gb from Pc World.. Bastards
[03:39] <nikkia> Sam3773: ergo, i deduce that we're not getting THAT ripped off on hard drives anymore
[03:39] <andrewcool> Plus my computer windows boot cds are on the hard drive partation
[03:39] <andrewcool> partation..
[03:39] <mouarffr> arg , Someone can help me with the version problem on hoary ??
[03:39] <h08817> how much space does the "server" install take
[03:40] <snowblink> Sam3773, PCWorld is where you go when you want something now and don't mind paying over the odds.
[03:40] <h08817> i hear the normal install is 1.2GB
[03:40] <Sam3773> haha yep, im gonna buy off ebuyer from now on
[03:40] <Scrambler> 160 Gig for 75  Euros
[03:40] <nikkia> Sam3773: i've stopped using ebuyer unless its something i can't find elsewhere, as have most of my friends...
[03:40] <nikkia> ebuyer has *no* customer support these days
[03:41] <Sam3773> Hmm can you recommened any other sites? :P
[03:41] <nikkia> if they mess up on an order, your only recorse is to email them, and hope someone reads it in the next 4-5 days...
[03:42] <Sam3773> Haha yeah that is pretty crap i spose
[03:42] <nikkia> Sam3773: i use cclonline.com mostly, but they don't have anywhere near as wide a selection as ebuyer (noone does, really) so you either have to be a bit less picky, or put up with ebuyer when absolutely necessary
[03:42] <h08817> hey
[03:42] <capi> whats a command I can use to tell what my current resolution is?
[03:42] <h08817> does anyone know the sizes difference of the installation?
[03:42] <andrewcool> Well guys i got to go :(
[03:42] <sw> I have a proble with movies in ubuntu, the don`t run
[03:42] <Blissex> capi: 'xdpyinfo'
[03:42] <Sam3773> Kk Cheers :)
[03:43] <andrewcool> Auf Wiedersehen!
[03:43] <andrewcool> Tschss!
[03:43] <otep> oi
[03:43] <otep> andrew
[03:43] <otep> why not go dual boot using 2 hds
[03:44] <nikkia> Sam3773: heh, the most expensive HDD that ccl have, is 270... for 500GB
[03:44] <andrewcool> i only have one hard drive!
[03:44] <andrewcool> and plus saving money up for a new grahpics card :D
[03:44] <nikkia> Sam3773: erm, most expensive regular IDE, i haven't looked in their SATA or SCSI sections :)
[03:44] <Sam3773> Oh only 500... haha who's gonna use 500gb :P
[03:44] <otep> buy another one
[03:44] <nikkia> Sam3773: i could, i have a total of nearly 400GB here, and about 3GB free :/
[03:45] <capi> I'm having trouble gettin Ubuntu to give me a 1152x864@75 resolution.  I've messed with xorg.conf, and reconfigured xserver-xorg? Anyone have some ideas?
[03:45] <andrewcool> :P
[03:45] <Sam3773> haha nice :D Im looking their site now, pretty damn cheap
[03:45] <nikkia> Sam3773:  they're not that cheap, they're just not pc world 'insane' prices :)
[03:46] <|rockinnerd|> yep it worked!
[03:46] <|rockinnerd|> yay!
[03:46] <nikkia> Sam3773: those are pretty average prices, you'll find similar from the other mail order placesw
[03:46] <|rockinnerd|> but, grub couldn't install :-(
[03:46] <mouarffr> who can explain me why in the directory there is two version of synergy and I can only install le older version ?
[03:46] <scifiordie> Hi, I'm fairly new to Linux tho a longtime fan...NEED info on how to find and install plugins for shockwave and java run environments please help....
[03:46] <jhaa> ubuntuguide.org
[03:46] <|rockinnerd|> scifiordie, there is NO shockwave plugin for linux, unless you use crossover office
[03:46] <sJaM> shockwave ?
[03:47] <Sam3773> Ooh ive been ripped off all my life :( Im actually gonna buy one from here :P Put my 40gb in another pc and buy a bigger one for me
[03:47] <scifiordie> crossover office is what where??? thanks
[03:47] <frostyfedora> hi all, i am new to ubuntu and have some buggy errors with firefox; cannot download plugins and security updates
[03:47] <Tsukasa> scifiordie: in a store near to you ;)
[03:47] <Tsukasa> scifiordie: it's a commercial product
[03:47] <Tsukasa> based on wine though :p
[03:48] <scifiordie> ok thank you what price range???
[03:48] <|rockinnerd|> scifiordie, u can download a trial from codeweavers.com
[03:48] <h08817> ok help real quick
[03:48] <|rockinnerd|> what
[03:48] <h08817> so i know what size of a hd i need
[03:49] <otep> then?
[03:49] <nalioths_dog> scifiordie: Go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats to find out all about mp3/dvd/flash/java/realplayer etc... support
[03:49] <scifiordie> will crossover also help with java???
[03:49] <h08817> what size is the "normal" and "server" install
[03:49] <Will_> Stop asking me!
[03:49] <nalioth> !firefox
[03:49] <ubotu> Firefox on warty is version 1.0.4 backported.  To install themes from addons.mozilla.org, type "about:config" into your address bar and change general.useragent.vendorSub from "1.0.2" to "1.0.4"
[03:49] <Tsukasa> btw I think Shockwave is supported by the flash plugin
[03:49] <nalioth> frostyfedora: read above what ubotu said
[03:50] <|rockinnerd|> scifiordie, there is java for linux
[03:50] <Tsukasa> and java can be installed without a hassle (read ubuntuguide)
[03:50] <|rockinnerd|> h08817, hit F1 when u boot the ubuntu cd
[03:50] <h08817> ok thanks
[03:50] <frostyfedora> nalioth : cheers!
[03:50] <nalioth> Tsukasa: please dont recommend ubuntuguide
[03:51] <|rockinnerd|> why won't grub install on my mbr??
[03:51] <nalioth> scifiordie: read here please, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[03:51] <Tsukasa> nalioth: For someone who has absolutely NO clue it's better than meddling with the forums :)
[03:51] <nalioth> Tsukasa: the wiki has been simplified in recent days
[03:52] <djp> nalioth: i totally agree
[03:52] <Tsukasa> I think the wiki is still pretty messy though :x
[03:52] <Will_> I was pimping ubuntu guide, but the wiki is so much clearer. It explains
[03:52] <Will_> Tsukasa: So clean it up
[03:53] <Tsukasa> when I clean things up people always start complaining ;)
[03:53] <yahalom> anyone here have top panel like on mac os x?
[03:53] <nalioth> yahalom: that would be a "superkaramba" widget
[03:53] <Amaranth> yahalom: If you mean with the application menus up there no.
[03:53] <FireW0lf> my missus version of ubuntu has XF86 rather than xorg - she still cant get a display greater than 800x600 - does she just need to add a subsection Display into the Monitor section? (there is no Display subsection there at all, altho there are 2 Display subsections in Screen)
[03:54] <Amaranth> yahalom: not possible
[03:54] <yahalom> nalioth, i have the mac os x panel which is the superkaramba widget i think, no?
[03:54] <yahalom> Amaranth, no way, not even a desklet?
[03:54] <Amaranth> yahalom: nope
[03:54] <nalioth> yahalom: i dont know what ypu have installed
[03:54] <Amaranth> yahalom: there was a hack to make it work a long time ago
[03:54] <yahalom> Amaranth, so why did i see it on gnome-look.org?
[03:55] <Amaranth> plus it would only work for GTK apps
[03:55] <yahalom> Amaranth, he must have been using kde or soemthing
[03:55] <Amaranth> firefox wouldn't work, Qt apps wouldn't work, etc
[03:55] <Amaranth> link?
[03:55] <nalioth> yahalom: the pic i think you're seeing is a pure OSX screenie
[03:55] <zwnj> how i can install src packages with synaptik?  is it possible?
[03:55] <yahalom> Amaranth, one sec
[03:55] <Amaranth> I think I know what you're talking about, it's different.
[03:55] <nalioth> zwnj: to my knowledge, you can only use apt to install source pkgs from the terminal
[03:55] <yahalom> Amaranth, http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=13548
[03:56] <belhifet> hi, i just installed hoary and i cannot get it to connect to the internet
[03:56] <yahalom> nalioth, lol are u serious. the guys just posted a mac os x screenshot?
[03:57] <Amaranth> yahalom: That's not a real menu.
[03:57] <nalioth> yahalom: yes, it is a OSX desktop
[03:57] <IIIEars> add-deb "repo name" is one way no? - there must be a way to add zipped src eh?source
[03:57] <Amaranth> yahalom: He just has a screenshot of that text showing on the menu.
[03:57] <chaps0063> is there any way in evolution to automatically attach your signature?
[03:57] <Amaranth> nalioth: no, that's GNOME
[03:57] <belhifet> it is done through administrator tools > networking
[03:57] <IIIEars> erm src-deb
[03:57] <belhifet> right?
[03:57] <scifiordie> THank you all on java/shockwave
[03:57] <nalioth> Amaranth: for real?
[03:57] <|rockinnerd|> where can i get grub splash images?
[03:57] <Amaranth> yahalom, nalioth: You can tell it's faked because The GIMP and nautilus don't have the same menus.
[03:58] <nalioth> Amaranth: is he runnning rootless gnome on OSX, cuz that is a real OSX dock
[03:58] <Amaranth> nalioth: pfft, i could make one of those in Javascript
[03:58] <nalioth> Amaranth: well i dont think steve wants his icons out for our use
[03:59] <Amaranth> obviously not, it's copyright infringement
[03:59] <Amaranth> and the humility icons are so much nicer
[03:59] <nalioth> yahalom: there is a "dock" superkaramba widget, i believe
[03:59] <nalioth> zwnj: are you still here?
[03:59] <|rockinnerd|> look on kde-look.org @ the baghira theme, it has another dock program that i've used and it works pretty good
[04:00] <yahalom> nalioth, well u see the bottom panel he has? i got that. thats a widget. but u saying there's another one for the top?
[04:00] <yahalom> |rockinnerd|, what kind of dock program?
[04:00] <nalioth> yahalom: the top in that pic is (i believe) OSX
[04:00] <Amaranth> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=26448 <--ooh, shiny
[04:01] <Amaranth> nalioth, yahalom: The top panel is a real panel, but those menus are just an image he has on the panel. They aren't real.
[04:01] <nalioth> Amaranth: well, he could be running gnome rootless, but overall it's a fake
[04:02] <yahalom> Amaranth, oh i get it. like a background image?
[04:02] <Amaranth> nalioth: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=26448 OS X-ish but they fit in better with GNOME
[04:02] <Amaranth> yahalom: Exactly.
[04:02] <Amaranth> yahalom: That's what the 'drop shadow' on the panel is too, a background image.
[04:02] <yahalom> Amaranth, now thats seriously wannabe
[04:03] <Amaranth> yahalom: Yeah, I dunno why people always want to copy OS X's crappy UI.
[04:03] <nalioth> yahalom: i find it funny, cuz i've got 2 iBooks and havent used OSX since ubuntu was put on
[04:03] <yahalom> lol
[04:03] <snowblink> hi - what are the implications of running sarge packages on hoary?
[04:03] <yahalom> Amaranth, i like the linux look. i just want a really clean theme, any ideas?
[04:03] <nalioth> snowblink: you may break something
[04:04] <Amaranth> yahalom: clearlooks
[04:04] <yahalom> Amaranth, i havent found anything refreshing
[04:04] <nalioth> yahalom: so make one of your own, and upload it
[04:04] <yahalom> Amaranth, yeah thats true. too used though.
[04:04] <yahalom> nalioth, if only i knew what i mean by refreshing
[04:04] <snowblink> nalioth, looking at the ruby packages in particular
[04:04] <nalioth> yahalom: heh
[04:04] <Amaranth> http://www.realistanew.com/nautilus2.png <--clearlooks in action
[04:04] <Will_> I <3 OSX
[04:04] <nalioth> snowblink: you can't find the ruby pkgs you need on ubuntu repos?
[04:05] <Amaranth> snowblink: sarge and hoary are not binary compatible
[04:05] <HenkPoley> reinhardt is a clean theme (for KDE only AFAIK)
[04:05] <snowblink> Amaranth, was thinking about rebuilding from the source package from sarge
[04:05] <erchache> hi
[04:05] <Amaranth> snowblink: check for patches in the ubuntu version and port them over
[04:05] <Amaranth> snowblink: then you should be good
[04:05] <nalioth> snowblink: there are plenty of ruby pkgs available here
[04:05] <erchache> where is sign command from openssl? i tried to find it without sucess
[04:06] <snowblink> nalioth, rails 0.13.1 requires ruby 1.8.2 stable (hoary is 2 days out)
[04:06] <erchache> need opengpg?
[04:06] <nalioth> snowblink: ah
[04:06] <nalioth> snowblink: its better to build from source, then use pure debian debs
[04:06] <snowblink> nalioth, there is already a bug filed, but boss wants to go to 0.13.1 and can't wait...
[04:06] <Amaranth> snowblink: I've said it before and I'll say it again: If something that major changed from beta to stable (2 days) and didn't get at least a week of testing applied ruby has major release problems.
[04:07] <yahalom> Amaranth, that is actually really nice
[04:07] <Amaranth> nalioth: building from debian package is better than pure source
[04:07] <snowblink> Amaranth, thanks. No probs with the decision. Just need to build new packages for our servers.
[04:07] <nalioth> Amaranth: so ya diff the debian source?
[04:08] <Amaranth> nalioth: Nah, like I told snowblink: take the patches from the ubuntu version and port them to the debian version, then 'debuild binary'
[04:09] <Kyral> Whats the "code-freeze" for Breezy mean?
[04:09] <Amaranth> Kyral: No more changes unless they're security problems or crashers.
[04:09] <snowblink> Amaranth, I've checked the patches from hoary ruby to vanilla ruby and some are in already, and others are minor
[04:09] <anacaona> hello hello
[04:10] <anacaona> i'm having a problem with samba daemon on ubuntu
[04:10] <anacaona> it won't come up at boot and i have to start it manually
[04:10] <anacaona> i've tried putting in a link to the init script in rc2-5 but that doesn't work
[04:10] <Kyral> So after the code-freeze, it should be relatively stable?
[04:11] <chillywilly> my buddy wants to install the latest netatalk but it's only in breezy...what are his options?
[04:11] <guillem> How do I add devian menu to gnome menus? (hoary)
[04:12] <Kyral> guillem, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32220
[04:13] <mouarffr> Is Breezy 5.10 really unstable ?
[04:13] <highvoltage> mouarffr: yes.
[04:13] <guillem> Thank you, Kyral
[04:13] <kbrooks> mouarffr, no "breezy 5.10"
[04:13] <nalioth> mouarffr: right now it is
[04:13] <guillem> mouarffr, read the topic above...
[04:13] <kbrooks> breezy is unstable because X is broken.
[04:14] <erchache> where is sign command from openssl? i tried to find it without sucess
[04:14] <erchache> need opengpg?
[04:14] <monteiro> when i burn dvds my buffer doesnt get occupied, how i make it to full the buffer? it works ok with normal cds
[04:14] <mouarffr> arg some package are in hoary but not "installable"
[04:15] <mouarffr> how can I install these package  without running unstable version ?
[04:15] <Kyral> Backports :D
[04:15] <nalioth> mouarffr: try to install them from source
[04:16] <mouarffr> need newer libc6 version so unable to install
[04:16] <nalioth> mouarffr: apt-get can build you an ubuntu pkg from source
[04:16] <nalioth> mouarffr: ah, in that case.. .. ..
[04:16] <mouarffr> the .deb file can be downloaded from hoary directory
[04:17] <mouarffr> but the installable version is not this one :/
[04:17] <erchache> need to install opengpg to sign openssl certificates? sign command arent installed
[04:18] <jnc> er... popped in to say that Breezy is sort of fubar at the moment for amd64 users, this is due to a malfunctioning buildmachine for Ubuntu devs
[04:18] <hozer> Hi all.  I'm having major problems with Firefox seg faulting left and right.  Particularly when attempting to print.  Any ideas?  I'm using firefox 1.0.2 on Horay.
[04:18] <teferi> it happens
[04:18] <jnc> it is possible to make X11 work again you have to build your own packages for some gnome things
[04:18] <teferi> (in re breezy being broken)
[04:18] <mouarffr> synergy_1.0.14-1_i386.deb and synergy_1.2.2-1build1_i386.deb are in the same directory but I can't install the latest version
[04:18] <Kyral> jnc, Breezy is fubar for all Arches
[04:18] <jnc> Kyral: oh.  well i have X11 working again
[04:19] <jnc> it seems that the packages are not messed up, they are merely not built
[04:19] <teferi> I have X working fine on breezy...
[04:19] <teferi> :p
[04:19] <jnc> grab the dsc etc. file dpkg-source -x *.dsc cd $FOO  dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot
[04:19] <jnc> install, works great
[04:19] <jnc> need to change keyboard -> kbd though on the xorg conf
[04:19] <Kyral> someone should make a HOWTO on how to get Breezy working
[04:19] <Kyral> err
[04:19] <Kyral> X in Breezy :D
[04:20] <jnc> which arch are you on?
[04:20] <Kyral> x86
[04:20] <jnc> oh
[04:20] <Gourami> even though the topic says NOT to use Breezy ?
[04:20] <Kyral> but X is broken there as well
[04:20] <jnc> i was going to offer you my  packages if you were on amd64
[04:20] <Kyral> Gourami, we are the tinkerers
[04:20] <Kyral> We are the ones who break packages so you don't have to!
[04:20] <zooko> Greetings, people of #ubuntu!
[04:21] <chillywilly> what if you want a servre package from breezy? like netatalk?
[04:21] <jnc> xlibs has trouble configuring, for that you'd need to carefully clean out parts of /usr/X11/xkb
[04:21] <chillywilly> :)
[04:21] <zooko> I've recently upgraded to a newer breezy and my meta keys broke.
[04:21] <chillywilly> server too
[04:21] <Gourami> then arent you the same ppl that make the HOW TO'S ?
[04:21] <jnc> or edit the postins script
[04:21] <zooko> Ooh, you guys are already talking about xkb!  Great!
[04:21] <Kyral> chillywilly, Backports
[04:21] <chillywilly> I don't think it is in backports
[04:21] <zooko> I've read enough and experimented enough to understand that currently my meta key is not getting mapped via a keycode to any symbol.
[04:21] <Kyral> it is
[04:21] <jnc> zooko: heh heh
[04:21] <zooko> I ran xev and watched and saw that it was "unknown".
[04:21] <Kyral> aptS netatalk
[04:21] <Kyral> netatalk - AppleTalk user binaries
[04:21] <Kyral> netatalk-dev - AppleTalk library and development files
[04:22] <jnc> zooko: that is something i just ran into.  no idea what happened.  kbd driver behaves different, i'd guess
[04:22] <zooko> So my question is: what's the Ubuntu'ish way to make my windows keys -- 114, 115, 116 -- get mapped to LWIN, RWIN, and the MENU thing?
[04:22] <zooko> I looked in /etc/X11/xkb
[04:22] <Kyral> zooko, running GNOME?
[04:22] <jnc> zooko: there's a metacity option to flip that setting
[04:22] <zooko> I found a file named "xfree86" that has mappings from 114 to LWIN, etc.
[04:22] <jnc> it's not working in Breezy (what i'm running)
[04:22] <zooko> Kyral, jnc: I appreciate the offer, but I don't run Gnome or metacity.
[04:22] <jnc> oh
[04:22] <zooko> I would like to understand what part of the underlying X system has changed.
[04:22] <Kyral> what do you run then? KDE?
[04:22] <jnc> well you asked what the ubuntu way is
[04:22] <jnc> ;)
[04:23] <teferi> zooko: the x server package got modularized
[04:23] <teferi> zooko: now it's broken up into the core and various drivers
[04:23] <zooko> I don't run KDE or Gnome.  I just use Xorg, ratpoison, bash, screen, etc.
[04:23] <jnc> it went kaboom
[04:23] <chillywilly> Kyral: is that 2.0.3?
[04:23] <zooko> jnc: good point...
[04:23] <chillywilly> netatalk
[04:23] <Kyral> chillywilly, no clue
[04:23] <zwnj> nalioth: thanks :)
[04:23] <Kyral> all I knwo that it is in Backports :D
[04:23] <zooko> I sometimes think maybe I should go back to Debian.  Even though Ubuntu is better, the "official" Ubuntu way to do things is using Gnome  or KDE, so I often have difficulty finding people who are having the same problems I am having.  :-(
[04:25] <zooko> Hm.  The file /etc/X11/xkb/keycodes/xfree86 has the keycode mappings that I want...
[04:25] <zooko> Ah.  Well, I'm using xlibs 6.8.2-32, and the current available on in breezy is 6.8.2-42.
[04:26] <zooko> I guess I should either (a) hold my breath and upgrade to current breezy, or
[04:26] <Kyral> umm
[04:26] <Kyral> zooko
[04:26] <zooko> (b) live without metakeys for a while.  ;-)
[04:26] <Medrakil> i have one serial port.. what might it's device name be?
[04:26] <Will_> Don't upgrade to breezy!
[04:26] <Medrakil> in /dev, that is
[04:26] <Kyral> Don't upgrade X past 6.8.2-36!
[04:26] <zooko> Ha!  You guys keep pointing to the topic when I come in here and ask about breezy issues.
[04:26] <Will_> Because it is broken.
[04:26] <zooko> What is the IRC channel for people who have upgraded to Breezy then?  ;-)
[04:26] <teferi> oh yeah, the breezy xkb breakage. that *is* getting a little annoying
[04:26] <zooko> Works okay for me except for my meta keys.
[04:26] <teferi> but i can ride it out
[04:27] <zooko> Well, I like to contribute to open source projects, both by (detailed, helpful, polite) but reports, and by patches.
[04:27] <zooko> Maybe I could fix this config issue and thus help the Ubuntu hackers understand the issue.
[04:27] <zooko> More likely they already understand it.
[04:27] <zooko> It's possible they've even already fixed it, in newer versions of xlibs...
[04:27] <Will_> zooko: That would be #my_linux_does_not_work_and_will_not_work_till_they_release_it_on_stable
[04:27] <Kyral> lol
[04:28] <zooko> I see.  I guess it isn't good to have a bunch of people with little knowledge of the internals trying an unstable release, as the volume of bug reports will be high and the value of each bug report low.
[04:29] <zooko> I'll stop coming to channel #ubuntu with my breezy issues then.  :-)
[04:29] <Gourami> does anyone here use irssi ?
[04:29] <Xappe> Gourami: yes
[04:29] <Kyral> zooko, you can post in the Breezy Development forum on UbuntuForums
[04:29] <zooko> Kyral: thanks for the suggestion.
[04:29] <Gourami> zooko: make #Ubunut-Breezy
[04:29] <nalioth> Gourami: a couple folks use it
[04:29] <Sweetshark> Gourami: yes
[04:30] <chillywilly> no netatalk 2.0.3 in back ports
[04:30] <Gourami> lol ok not Ubunut but Ubuntu-Breezy
[04:30] <zooko> Is there a mailing list alternative to the UbuntuForums?
[04:32] <stuNNed> anyone use wpa_supplicant on a lappie?
[04:32] <ashok> my wifi button keeps glowing.. any solution  for this ?
[04:33] <Gourami> how do I close an existing query windiw with irssi anyone ?
[04:33] <teferi> stuNNed: yes
[04:33] <teferi> what's up?
[04:34] <teferi> (disclaimer: i'm only doing WEP with it because my driver is broken, WPA-wise...)
[04:34] <stuNNed> teferi: sometimes do you have to run 'dhclient ath0' because ubuntu's wpa_supplicant doesn't assign and ip fast enough?
[04:34] <Xappe> Gourami: /wc
[04:34] <nalioth> Gourami: at the bottom of said window type /wc
[04:34] <teferi> stuNNed: wpa_supplicant can call out to a dhcp client?
[04:34] <ashok> does anyone have a solution for my prob ?
[04:35] <teferi> stuNNed: my normal course of action is to wait for wpa_supplicant to do the crypto stuff and then run ifup ath0
[04:35] <Gourami> thanks Xappe ,nalioth
[04:35] <Gourami> window close... who wouldve guessed :)
[04:35] <stuNNed> teferi: mmmk, shouldn't the ifup ath0 be auto?
[04:35] <hozer> Anyone else having segmentation fault issues with Firefox on Horay?
[04:36] <teferi> stuNNed: this is how i've always done it
[04:36] <teferi> i don't care enough to make it smoother
[04:36] <stuNNed> teferi: i'd like open the lid on my sleeping laptop plug in the pcmcia card and wpa_supplicant does the rest, not you?
[04:37] <teferi> stuNNed: oh, indeed, but i don't care enough to make it so
[04:37] <teferi> i'm rather lazy
[04:37] <mikl> ack, the new gnome file-selector-menu is probably the most unfrindly POS ever...
[04:37] <stuNNed> teferi: lazy!=running ifup ath0 ;)
[04:38] <teferi> stuNNed: incidentially, are you using WPA or just WEP? because I couldn't get WPA working...
[04:38] <teferi> i ran into that problem where it'd associate, miss a beacon, drop the connection, and do it over and over and over
[04:38] <IIIEars> is amd althlon XP3400  bit or 64?
[04:38] <stuNNed> teferi: WPA and Open i'm using
[04:38] <zooko> Heh heh.  Yes, I think new version of Ubuntu breezy has changed the xkb config...
[04:39] <teferi> zooko: just a bit...
[04:39] <IIIEars> er 32 bit?
[04:39] <Sweetshark> mikl: well, its still better than the old one ...
[04:39] <stuNNed> teferi: did you try running wpa_supplicant in debug mode?  it is very useful.
[04:39] <mikl> Sweetshark: I wish they would use one like they do in KDE...
[04:39] <Gourami> ok last irssi question: How can I get irssi what seems to be a 800x600 res when run on tty
[04:39] <teferi> stuNNed: yes, not useful enough...it's a known problem which i don't think has been fixed
[04:39] <teferi> i should try the latest cvs and see if it's fixed there...oh well, maybe later
[04:40] <IIIEars> 32 bit isn't it? - saw a great deal on it. but i don't think it includes the no execute bit
[04:40] <Gourami> looking for full screen
[04:40] <stuNNed> teferi: haven't seen that here but have been having general problems with wireless at my uni, affects windows too though
[04:40] <Belutz> anyone can help with this http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/659 ?
[04:41] <Rockett17> anyone know if there is a way to stretch/make the icons bigger in KDE like you can in Gnome?
[04:42] <stuNNed> teferi: wpa_supplicant is coming along nicely though imho
[04:42] <teferi> stuNNed: well, i'm on wired ethernet here at work anyway, so it doesn't really matter right now :P
[04:42] <flyvholm> Does "kernel-package" cover over a version-specific name, or should I be able to find such a package e.g. by "aptitude install kernel-package"?
[04:42] <Sam3773> Hey, urm sort of involves Ubuntu :D Just downloaded the ISO, but Neros telling me i cant burn it onto DVD, need a CD.. I only have DVDs though, anyone know a way round this?
[04:42] <rem_> Rockett try ask in #kubuntu ...
[04:42] <Xappe> Sam3773: download the dvd :)
[04:42] <teferi> flyvholm: kernel-package is the set of tools for building kernels
[04:43] <stuNNed> teferi: i don't think wpa_supplicant handles the ip layer from what i'm hearing.
[04:43] <Sam3773> Im fine thanks, i spose i can install it onto the hard drive with Vmware.. Pretty sure i can :P
[04:43] <teferi> flyvholm: you want linux-{386,686,k7,whatever your cpu is}
[04:43] <teferi> which should pull in the latest kernel
[04:45] <flyvholm> I'm on AMD64 Hoary. I need make-kpkg and tried 'aptitude install kernel-package', but response was "No candidate version found for kernel package" :-|
[04:45] <teferi> oh.
[04:45] <teferi> um.
[04:45] <hybrid_goth> hello all
[04:45] <stuNNed> teferi: thanks for your input :)
[04:46] <teferi> i already have it installed and i'm on 386 anyway, so...
[04:46] <teferi> sorry
[04:47] <Woody4u> hi
[04:47] <gypsymauro> hi
[04:47] <flyvholm> Is it possible that the kernel-package simply isn't available for my kernel version?
[04:47] <Velcan> I'm using zenity (which is like xdialog), and I want the "cancel" button to kill the job that's feeding input to the zenity --progress process. Can anyone help?
[04:48] <gypsymauro> I'm trying to use vpnc under ubuntu 5.04 but it doesn't creates the new route, it seems to be connected (I c the tun0 device) but it does't add the new default route..any hint?
[04:48] <gypsymauro> the same configuration on debian sarge it works
[04:49] <anatole> hey, anyone could help, how to disconnect properly my ipod mini from linux?
[04:49] <jnk> gypsymauro, it works if you add the route yourself?
[04:49] <tritium> gypsymauro, you're using the included vpnc-connect script?
[04:49] <jnk> anatole, with eject I think
[04:50] <slept> flyvholm, kernel-package should be common to all arch, it should not depend on your kernel aswell , did you search via apt ?
[04:50] <pestilence> i installed some packages to try and get chinese characters to display properly in terminals, and now my konsole fonts are very ugly.  anybody know what i could do to fix this?  (i.e. what is the konsole font that is used  by default, and how do i get back to that?)
[04:50] <monteiro> when i trie to install something it says tcpd invalid argument, what is this?
[04:51] <anatole> jnk: but after that, ipod still tells not to disconnect it
[04:52] <anatole> is there anything wrong that could happen if i disconnect it despite that notice?
[04:52] <gypsymauro> tritium: yes I'm using that script
[04:52] <flyvholm> slept, I just did an 'aptitude install kernel-package' from a terminal. I also tried looking in the Synaptic Package Manager to see if I could find something...
[04:53] <black-whisp> whats the name of the dictornarieys for gaim?
[04:53] <gypsymauro> jnk: I can't know 'cause I'm on the same network at the moment
[04:53] <spot_> helllo, skype won't work correctly any idea'z..
[04:53] <tritium> gypsymauro, it works fine here
[04:53] <gypsymauro> tritium: did you recompiled something?
[04:54] <tritium> gypsymauro, no, just using the standard ubuntu package
[04:54] <gypsymauro> tritium: when I launch it vpnc-connect never ends...
[04:54] <gypsymauro> it starts tun0 but doesn't changes the route
[04:54] <slept> flyvholm, why do you want to create a kernel ? you can get the package from package.ubuntu.com
[04:55] <tritium> gypsymauro, check your script in /etc/vpnc.  Are you using default.conf, or did you setup a new one?
[04:55] <gypsymauro> a new one
[04:55] <gypsymauro> I've made a little gtk interface to vpn
[04:55] <flyvholm> slept, I need to apply a patch to make my Alps touchpad work
[04:56] <gypsymauro> on sarge it calls vpnc-connect and it works
[04:56] <gypsymauro> on ubuntu doesn't , even if I call vpnc-connect by hand
[04:56] <tritium> gypsymauro, first check "sudo vpnc-connect <scriptname>" from the command line
[04:56] <gypsymauro> tritium: in fact I'm trying that :)
[04:57] <gypsymauro> but the problem is that it doesn't add the new route
[04:57] <gypsymauro> the other strange thing is I can c
[04:57] <gypsymauro>  tun0 in /proc/net/dev
[04:57] <gypsymauro> but not in ifconfig
[04:58] <tritium> gypsymauro, make sure the file is correct.  I've found that even an extra space at the end of the line will cause trouble with vpnc
[04:58] <yahalom> hey guys can someone tell me how i can change the gnome logo in epiphany?
[04:58] <slept> flyvholm, maybe you can use module-assistant would be less work and time
[05:00] <gypsymauro> tritium: great!
[05:00] <IIIEars>  yahalom -  would a search for png files find it? - then just exchange/rename it?
[05:00] <gypsymauro> tritium: that was the problem
[05:00] <tritium> gypsymauro, excellent :)
[05:00] <gypsymauro> a f******************* space;)
[05:00] <teferi> tritium: hey, were you one of hte people interested in a little evo mail notifier thing?
[05:00] <yahalom> IIIEars, no idea what its called
[05:00] <lapo> hi
[05:00] <tritium> teferi, yeah, did you get it working?
[05:00] <teferi> tritium: yep :)
[05:00] <tritium> teferi, awesome!
[05:00] <teferi> lemme finish version 0.2 and I'll shoot you a copy
[05:01] <mridle> ouch
[05:01] <tritium> teferi, super.  Also, might I interested you in joining #ubuntu-motu to discuss it futher?
[05:01] <teferi> motu?
[05:01] <mridle> should have tried this # before trying out breezy
[05:01] <mridle> >:)
[05:01] <tritium> teferi, universe package maintainers
[05:01] <flyvholm> slept - mmm, module-assistant - I need to be filled in a little. Just installed Ubuntu something like 10 hours ago :-)
[05:01] <teferi> hah. this is a 50-line python hack, it's not worth packaging
[05:02] <tritium> teferi, oh, but it sounds good
[05:02] <teferi> fine, fine
[05:02] <tritium> :)
[05:02] <IIIEars> cat /media/cdrom > /home/my_home/A-New.iso - Should work shouldn't it?
[05:02] <shookuser1> where can I get a patch called               libdvdcss2??
[05:03] <Raskall-edge> shookuser1: do a "find" in your browser at www.ubuntuguide.org
[05:04] <jnk> IIIEars, /media/cdrom is a directory isn't it?
[05:04] <searcher`> IIIEars: a better idea would probably be: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=a-new.iso
[05:04] <IIIEars> shookuser1 - it was once upon a time on the marillat repository. - unfortuneatly it was removed prior to the patent vote in europe. - i had to google for it.
[05:04] <gypsymauro> tritium: interested in the gtk client?
[05:04] <IIIEars> searcher - would you mind if i called you guru? - grin
[05:05] <shookuser1> edge    ty!
[05:05] <gypsymauro> is just a layer over vpnc-connect but with tray icon
[05:05] <tritium> gypsymauro, sure.  Do you have a site for it?
[05:05] <gypsymauro> tritium: nope
[05:05] <IIIEars> Thank You guys
[05:05] <tritium> gypsymauro, do you intend to package it?
[05:05] <gypsymauro> tritium: nope I'm not a debian developer I can post you the tgz
[05:06] <tritium> gypsymauro, sure, thanks
[05:07] <IFRFLYR> Hi, is there a font management tool in ubuntu, something which allows me to add fonts to the system's font folder, or must I do it manually>?
[05:07] <gypsymauro> tritium: are u receiving the dcc?
[05:07] <tritium> gypsymauro, I got the request, but I can't receive behind the router
[05:07] <monteiro> i cannot install or remove any package, it says -> failed in buffer_read(fd) tcp invalid argument" anyone knows how to resolve this?
[05:08] <yahalom> IIIEars, thanx. i just removed it.
[05:08] <jnk> IFRFLYR, you just drag and drop the fonts to your ~/.fonts folder I think
[05:08] <tritium> gypsymauro, any way to post it somewhere?
[05:09] <gypsymauro> I'm looking tritium :)
[05:09] <tritium> gypsymauro, thanks
[05:09] <Medrakil> anyone know where i can find a java 1.4 .deb? i need it for lejos
[05:09] <Medrakil> sdk, that is
[05:09] <IIIEars> dd_rescue - feel the power of open source - nice tip. :)
[05:09] <tritium> !java
[05:09] <ubotu> rumour has it, java is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin.
[05:09] <jnk> what's lejos?
[05:09] <Medrakil> java firmware for the lego RCX
[05:10] <Medrakil> you can program lego robots w/ a kind of java
[05:10] <IFRFLYR> jnk, I have no ~/.fonts directory (!)
[05:10] <jnk> IFRFLYR, create it
[05:10] <Medrakil> what sucks about it, though, is that it doesn't support java 1.5, you have to have 1.1-1.4
[05:10] <jnk> IFRFLYR, yes it sucks, but it's a huge improvement compared to the previous way of installing fonts :)
[05:11] <Medrakil> and the java 1.4 installer from sun didn't like me for some reason
[05:11] <IFRFLYR> Ah. jnk, however I have lots of fonts on my machine already; would this be a font folder only functioning on a per user basis? That *is* pretty cool if that's the case
[05:11] <jnk> Medrakil, with java-package you convert the Sun .bin to a .deb without problem, be it 1.4 or 1.5
[05:11] <tritium> Medrakil, try using java-package with the .bin
[05:11] <jnk> IFRFLYR, yes it's per user
[05:11] <stempien> I've recently installed ubuntu, all went OK..i got X's working and prompt for username..but after logging in there's just brown screen and no graphical environment like gnome
[05:11] <IFRFLYR> Coool-o jnk. Thanks
[05:11] <stempien> and gnome seems to be installed
[05:11] <Medrakil> jnk, tritium, thanks, i'll try that..
[05:12] <rem_> hey..i have a question: how can i print from the "eye of gnome" there is no print possibility ..?!
[05:12] <Medrakil> jnk, tritium, what would the command for that be?
[05:12] <jnk> rem_, it has just been added, it will be in the next ubuntu version
[05:12] <monteiro> i cannot install or remove any package, it says -> failed in buffer_read(fd) tcpd invalid argument", i tried removing all packages in archive bt it didn't work.
[05:12] <jnk> rem_, meenwhile, use another prog
[05:12] <IIIEars> stempian - i have seen that too - my guess is it happens periodically when i press enter two or three times after entering the paswword
[05:12] <Medrakil> i've installed java-package
[05:12] <tritium> Medrakil, first, install java-package
[05:13] <rem_> is there a way i can add it, or what other program could i use, have probs printing with gimp ..
[05:13] <tritium> Medrakil, see this:
[05:13] <jnk> Medrakil, read /usr/share/doc/java-package/README.Debian
[05:13] <stempien> IIIEars: so what to do ?
[05:13] <tritium> !java
[05:13] <ubotu> [java]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java and includes the Firefox plugin.
[05:13] <IIIEars> stempian - likely an easier way but i usually reboot. - :/
[05:13] <rem_> ...i guess ill use openoffice or seomthing ...
[05:13] <stempien> IIIEars: but hmm i bet it won't start anyway
[05:13] <rem_> thanx anyway ...
[05:13] <jnk> stempien, it's systematic ?
[05:14] <stempien> i've rebooted once
[05:14] <stempien> and no changes
[05:14] <stempien> still brown screen
[05:14] <IFRFLYR> jnk: worked like a charm. Thanks!
[05:14] <MIK3MAN> tritium: heya, good to see your still here... I've got problems
[05:14] <IIIEars> (shrug - dunno i'll cross my fingers) - grin
[05:14] <tritium> MIK3MAN, I'n back, haven't been here the whole time ;)
[05:14] <IIIEars> 13 weeks with Ubuntu
[05:14] <MIK3MAN> I went to bed at 3am
[05:14] <jnk> stempien, something happens if you right-click in the brown?
[05:15] <stempien> nothing
[05:15] <tritium> MIK3MAN, so what's up?
[05:15] <stempien> but
[05:15] <MIK3MAN> same error, looks like something with the grafix
[05:15] <stempien> i can start emergency xterm
[05:15] <MIK3MAN> tritium: I will copy and paste in a PM for you ok?
[05:15] <jnk> rem_, gthumb maybe ?
[05:15] <tritium> MIK3MAN, ok
[05:15] <jnk> stempien, how do you do that?
[05:16] <stempien> there's an option..i can choose gnome, emergency gnome, default environment and that emergency xterm
[05:16] <kbrooks> I have a question for newbies.....
[05:17] <kbrooks> How can we reach out to new users?
[05:17] <kbrooks> Ideas?
[05:17] <shookuser1> can't find download site for libdvdcss2??? anyone please help  (Newbie)
[05:18] <stempien> and after starting that xterm (down right corner) i can use anything under x's like mozilla for example
[05:18] <jnk> stempien, try the emergency xterm, and there type gnome-session
[05:18] <stempien> but no gnome :S
[05:18] <kbrooks> shookuser1, did you try to search for dvd?
[05:18] <jnk> see what happens
[05:18] <MIK3MAN> tritium: trying to get ubuntu to work, I hate giving up but the g/f is getting pissed at me not spending time away from the comp
[05:18] <tritium> shookuser1, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:18] <tritium> MIK3MAN, I understand that.  What's the problem now?
[05:18] <stempien> but first i'll reboot
[05:19] <shookuser1> tritum     yes nothing   Just other people with same problem
[05:19] <stempien> brb
[05:19] <kbrooks> shookuser1, 'nothing'? give more detail
[05:19] <MIK3MAN> tritium: btw, I lost that error cause the comp was in powersaver, I need to configure the video card... I cannot get into X
[05:20] <tritium> shookuser1, I don't think you looked at the URL I gave you ;)
[05:20] <hybrid_goth> tritium: hey! long time no see
[05:20] <tritium> MIK3MAN, so X is still not getting configured right on install?
[05:20] <tritium> hybrid_goth, hey there.  :)
[05:20] <MIK3MAN> anyone: I have an ATI rage pro that needs setting up for X, I am a noob, sort of
[05:21] <tritium> Yeah, I've not been around as much the past two months or so, hybrid_goth
[05:21] <kbrooks> I have a question for ALL! How can NUN reach out to new users?
[05:21] <sirumen> salut
[05:21] <hybrid_goth> tritium: yea i was gone for a month and a half to my dads
[05:21] <MIK3MAN> tritium: went through with no errors except the wifi configuration and DHCP
[05:21] <tritium> hybrid_goth, wb
[05:21] <hybrid_goth> which brings up a question
[05:21] <ubuntu> hi
[05:21] <hybrid_goth> tritium: ty
[05:21] <tritium> MIK3MAN, so no errors, but you still have no X?
[05:21] <jnk> MIK3MAN, by nvidia next time, I'm so sick with my radeon mobility, just can't get the tv output to work, it was so simple with nvidia
[05:22] <hybrid_goth> how can i set up a PPPoE connection from a modem no router.
[05:22] <ubuntu> hi amaranth
[05:22] <ubuntu> r u an indian
[05:22] <kbrooks> ubuntu, says who? :)
[05:22] <MIK3MAN> tritium: right, but what I find strange is that the live cd works!!
[05:22] <slept> MIK3MAN, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , select ati
[05:22] <tritium> MIK3MAN, so should the install CD.
[05:22] <hybrid_goth> jnk: is the all-in-wonder ati or nvidia?
[05:22] <jnk> ati
[05:22] <hybrid_goth> jnk: ah ty
[05:22] <tritium> MIK3MAN, is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg still giving the same error?
[05:22] <IIIEars> all in wonder is ATI
[05:23] <MIK3MAN> slept: hold on, I tried that b4
[05:23] <supernix> Hi anyone using a SDcard reader with Linux ?
[05:23] <kbrooks> Anyone?
[05:23] <hybrid_goth> anyone know how i can set up a PPPoE connection from a modem no router.
[05:23] <jnk> kbrooks, what's NUN ?
[05:23] <tritium> hybrid_goth, not sure, buddy.  Sorry.
[05:23] <hybrid_goth> tritium: ok np
[05:24] <slept> supernix, my digicam :)
[05:24] <jnk> supernix, yeah
[05:24] <kbrooks> jnk: new user(s) network
[05:24] <hybrid_goth> tritium: i went 42 days at my dads no internet because he wouldnt get a router
[05:24] <mulux> I'm trying to build an apache2 module but it seems the apxs-script is broken, anyone know how to fix it?
[05:24] <jnk> kbrooks, well it seems it hasn't reached out to me yet
[05:24] <Dieguito> hi
[05:24] <tritium> hybrid_goth, ah, wow
[05:24] <hybrid_goth> jnk: wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetwork
[05:24] <supernix> I can't get my Kodak to work with Kubunutu so I am trying to find a SDcard reader
[05:24] <nebular> gah! can't seem to get 1280x1024 on my xserver. I"m running kubuntu and I just ran dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg and it still goes to 1024x768. I have no idea what I"m doing wrong
[05:24] <hybrid_goth> tritium: yea...
[05:24] <teferi> http://wmute.net/~teferi/evo-mail-notify.py <-- new version of last night's evoliution new mail notification applet
[05:24] <kbrooks> jnk: explain why
[05:24] <supernix> Anyone have any suggestions about finding a good SDcard reader ?
[05:24] <teferi> ...evolution
[05:24] <teferi> please beat on it and tell me if it breaks
[05:24] <Dieguito> I need help to install ubuntu in my laptop without CD room
[05:25] <ajhobbs> hybrid_goth: Try http://users.pandora.be/Asterisk-PBX/PPPoE.htm
[05:25] <stempien> jnk: i rebooted, login (choosing gnome), switched to shell (alt+ctrl+f1) and there's already process with gnome (ps x)
[05:25] <hybrid_goth> supernix: have you tried mounting it as a sd drive?
[05:25] <stempien> but still brown screeen
[05:25] <jnk> NUN sounds cool
[05:25] <hybrid_goth> ajhobbs: thanx
[05:25] <MIK3MAN> slept: how do I run as root again?? I know su dont work
[05:25] <jnk> kbrooks, now it has
[05:25] <ajhobbs> MIK3MAN: sudo -s
[05:25] <zAo^> nebular, got OpenGL working?
[05:25] <jnk> supernix, any USB compatible is fine to me
[05:25] <Dieguito> can anyone help me in private please?
[05:25] <kbrooks> jnk: huh