[14:50] <Borbus> Oh right... even VLC? I thought that was basically ffmpeg and a video player bundled together.
[14:50] <Zanfo2win> alò
[14:50] <Rug> Borbus: everything as far as I know
[14:50] <Zanfo2win> weeee
[14:50] <Zanfo2win> weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[14:50] <Zanfo2win> weeee
[14:50] <coal77> ChrisGibbs: ok. thanks for you truble
[14:51] <ChrisGibbs> coal: np hope you get everything going :)
[14:51] <AngryAnt> Rug: Grooveh. Now a reboot or can I re-read the file?
[14:51] <Pici> Zanfo2win: Please stop.
[14:51] <Rug> AngryAnt: Linux means you never need to reboot!
[14:51] <DivineSpectrum> oh
[14:51] <Rug> =)
[14:51] <Borbus> So if I want to try using xine... is that all in the mplayer man page?
[14:51] <DivineSpectrum> help me!! dio ca'ato male!!
[14:51] <Rug> AngryAnt: try this:   /etc/init.d/networking restart
[14:52] <AngryAnt> Rug: Thought as much. I'm an OS X user for every day work (hold the flames :p )
[14:52] <linux4me> how do i stop the update manager once it has started. i have 148 updates to install and want to shut it down
[14:52] <DivineSpectrum> my firefow don't download files
[14:52] <DivineSpectrum> why???
[14:52] <DivineSpectrum> firefox
[14:52] <Borbus> DivineSpectrum, not really sure what you mean... elaborate.
[14:53] <ikonia> linux4me: not wise to stop it mid download/install
[14:53] <DivineSpectrum> i'm italian
[14:53] <Rug> Borbus: no.    xine, vlc, kmplayer, etc will not show mplay man pages and vice versa.     You can use mplay alone from the cli, it is just 'complicated'
[14:53] <ikonia> !it | DivineSpectrum
[14:53] <ubotu> DivineSpectrum: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[14:53] <DivineSpectrum> ah
[14:53] <DivineSpectrum> thanks
[14:53] <AngryAnt> Rug: I can now ping google.com, but I can still not ping back to the ubuntu install
[14:54] <rich__> ahh i know why that disc doesnt work
[14:54] <Rug> AngryAnt: just use the IPs for now
[14:54] <linux4me> ikonia - i think i already closed the download package window but the update manager window is still showing with the spinning icon
[14:54] <AngryAnt> Rug: Could you link me to an article on how to set up the hostname properly?
[14:55] <Rug> AngryAnt: no;   nano /etc/hosts
[14:55] <Rug> or
[14:55] <Rug> nano /etc/hostname
[14:55] <Rug> rather
[14:55] <AngryAnt> Thanks :)
[14:55] <linux4me> ikonia - trying a restart! ;)
[14:55] <DivineSpectrum> is callonisi
[14:56] <Rug> AngryAnt: join #temp
[14:59] <Madhag> hi
[14:59] <Madhag> Installing ubuntu for the first time
[14:59] <FLX> hey
[15:00] <anderswc> I am installing ubuntu as a dual boot. I have 4 partitions, 2 for my other OS, one for swap and one for linux
[15:00] <Madhag> keep getting out of range with my screen?
[15:00] <anderswc> what format should my linux partition be?
[15:00] <g0rb3hy> IS there some i can manually download the ubuntu restricted driver for bc43X based wireless cards?
[15:00] <g0rb3hy> Ive installed from a CD and cant get netsupport without it, I want to copy it over with a usb stick
[15:01] <pike_> anderswc: usually ext3 is recommeneded
[15:01] <anderswc> ok
[15:01] <DivineSpectrum> download wubi 7.10 and use this
[15:01] <allobjects> After reboot, my wireless always needs a kick via 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' can someone please help ?
[15:01] <DivineSpectrum> in windows
[15:01] <w4ett> Madhag: sounds like you need to reconfigure your xorg.conf
[15:01] <anderswc> the installer says no root file system identified
[15:01] <anderswc> how do I tell it what root system to use?
[15:01] <Madhag> disk is clean
[15:01] <heag> how to Qemu fullscreen? :(
[15:01] <DivineSpectrum> mannaggia la maronn
[15:02] <Madhag> should I do a text install,
[15:02] <sylverfox> hi all
[15:02] <pike_> anderswc: you need to make one partition '/'
[15:02] <crolle17> can you please name me one firefox-add-on that can manage my booksmarks? i know there is one that saves the bookmarks externally on a server and you can download wherever you are and have everywhere your booksmarks.
[15:02] <MenZa> browser sync, crolle17
[15:02] <jimcooncat> heag, one way is to use vnc, but I know that's probably not what you're looking for
[15:02] <crolle17> but i don't know the name and google don't know it too....
[15:02] <w4ett> Madhag: that or boot into safe graphics mode
[15:03] <pike_> anderswc: you can also do a seperate /home partition too if ya want id allocate maybe 8-10 gigs for / and the rest for /home
[15:03] <MenZa> google know; they develop it. ;)
[15:03] <sylverfox> after install i saw that i didn't mentioned to mount my partitions with read-write permissions
[15:03] <Madhag> tried the safe graphics and got the same
[15:03] <allobjects> crolle17: BlueOrganiser
[15:03] <sylverfox> how can i repair this now<
[15:03] <sylverfox> ?
[15:03] <Madhag> will  try again
[15:03] <pike_> anderswc: i think the field is 'mountpoint'
[15:04] <cdecarlo> how do I get rid of that underscore after my name?
[15:04] <cdecarlo> well not here I guess
[15:04] <pike_> cdecarlo: hunt down and kill the person already registered
[15:04] <crolle17> MenZa, ah thank you. i found it: foxmark
[15:05] <cdecarlo> pike_: looks like you're still hunting
[15:05] <allobjects> can someone please help me with my wireless card which needs manual network restart after a reboot
[15:06] <sylverfox> could please somebody tell me how to fix an fstab to mount my partitions in read-write mode?
[15:07] <pike_> sylverfox: what file system?
[15:07] <sylverfox> ext3
[15:08] <rich__> is there an alternative kernel for ubuntu 7.10?
[15:08] <rich__> one where usb works?
[15:08] <pike_> sylverfox: defaults  should be only thing in fstab id think.. now remember that the ext3 file system supports perm so if you need access to a dir or fileyou need to chown or chmod it like you would a dir in /
[15:09] <pike_> sylverfox: you can though test by sudo mount -o remount,rw /mountpoint i guess
[15:09] <ikonia> rich__: usb does work on the kernel
[15:09] <rich__> not for my external hard discs is dont
[15:10] <ikonia> rich__: well, thats a different senario
[15:10] <Madhag> haha ot X
[15:10] <rich__> is there a way of getting them to work
[15:10] <ikonia> rich__: what happens when you plug the drive in ?
[15:10] <Madhag> got  X I mean
[15:10] <rich__> i cant mkfs, thats the issue
[15:10] <ikonia> rich__: that's a totally different senario
[15:11] <ikonia> rich__: do you get a device file
[15:11] <toni_> rich__,  which external drive is ?
[15:11] <rich__> WD Passport
[15:11] <allobjects> Anyone have a suggestion why my wireless connection does not work after a reboot until I manually restart networking ?
[15:11] <ikonia> rich__: do you have a device file for it when you plug it in
[15:11] <mikebeecham> does anyone know if it's possible to remove the small arrow next to the menu icon in the panel?
[15:12] <rich__> yeah i do, i cant alter the partitions
[15:12] <rich__> but i cant create f
[15:12] <rich__> filesystems on it
[15:12] <truna> allobjects, how do you even manually enable it?
[15:12] <ikonia> rich__: which device does it assign to it
[15:12] <jmmm> boas alguem
[15:12] <rich__> or the seagate desktop etiher.
[15:12] <rich__> sdb1
[15:12] <Juan_Eddy> Hola
[15:12] <ikonia> rich__: ok - so the device is /dev/sdb
[15:12] <jmmm> me pode explicar uma cena
[15:12] <ikonia> rich__: when you do "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb" do you see a partition table ok
[15:12] <Madhag> stilldoes ubuntu support at red 9200?
[15:12] <pike_> Juan_Eddy: hi :)
[15:13] <Madhag> rad 9200 I mean
[15:13] <Juan_Eddy> hi
[15:13] <allobjects> truna:  'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'
[15:13] <Madhag> graphics card
[15:13] <pike_> Madhag: 9200 card should be supported super well id think.. for an ati
[15:13] <toni_> Madhag,  yes it should
[15:13] <rich__> yeah partitions are fine, i created a linux one
[15:14] <rich__> several times infact, been doing this for three days now, cant find anything on the net
[15:14] <fraujansen> hi! you know how can i rebuild the kde-menu? i've reinstalled linux and i have plenty of old-menu-entries... how can i fix this?
[15:14] <Madhag> thanks, cause I am having installation problems
[15:14] <ikonia> rich__: can you please show me the output of "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb"
[15:14] <ikonia> rich__: please put it in a pastebin
[15:15] <toni_> when i open webpage with gnash plugin the temperature of my cpu raises from 47 t o57 :)
[15:15] <pike_> fraujansen: you have a dir in your home called .kde i think.. im not a kde guy but if you mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-old and alt-ctrl-backspace should work
[15:15] <rich__> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50717/
[15:16] <ttt-> is there something free like photoshop that i can download?
[15:16] <truna> allobjects, at boot when you type ifconfig, does your interface already has an ip address?
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Morning ikonia.. Fixed the networking problem...  Replaced the el-cheapo router the guy had...
[15:16] <allobjects> ttt-: Gimp
[15:16] <ttt-> ok thanks
[15:16] <rich__> oh sorry wrong one
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> ttt-: See if it is not already installed
[15:16] <truna> ttt-, umm try also blender, its open sourced and have version for different platforms too
[15:17] <truna> including window
[15:17] <ttt-> isnt blender a 3d thing
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> !gimp
[15:17] <ubotu> gimp is an advanced image manipulation application for Ubuntu. See http://www.gimp.org for tutorials and more information.
[15:17] <jude> what is the vga mode in the kernel parameters for color depth 24 and resolution 1280x1024
[15:17] <jude> ??
[15:17] <truna> ttt-, yeah it can do 3D but if you look only in 2D it works fine
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> vesa can go to 1024
[15:17] <ttt-> oh cool
[15:18] <fraujansen> pike: thank u!
[15:18] <pike_> np
[15:18] <allobjects> truna: I believe so but would have to quit here to confirm
[15:18] <rich__> ikonia http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50718/
[15:18] <ikonia> rich__: thats sdc - is that the right device ?
[15:19] <rich__> yeah
[15:19] <ikonia> rich__: what file system do you want on it
[15:19] <rich__> anything
[15:19] <ikonia> rich__: ok so if you did "sudo mke2fs -j /dev/sdc1" what hapens
[15:19] <allobjects> truna: Would you like me to confirm that ?
[15:19] <rich__> it doesnt matter they all say device in use or busy, same with the seagate, but my cheap caddies all work fine
[15:20] <rich__> mkfs.xfs: cannot open /dev/sdc1: Device or resource busy
[15:20] <ikonia> rich__: can you please show me the output of the command "mount" in a pastebin.
[15:20] <rich__> no, its not mounted
[15:20] <allobjects> truna: btw, in my case I have it set to a static ip not via dhcp so I'm not sure what that will prove
[15:20] <ikonia> rich__: fuser /dev/sdc1
[15:20] <tinman> Sirs 0/
[15:20] <rich__> and fusee returns no results etiher, its not in use, this is the point
[15:20] <rich__> the kernel is the issue, Centos5 will work with it
[15:21] <ikonia> rich__: actually fuser won't work on device files, so sratch that
[15:21] <tinman> i have a apt-get problem
[15:21] <Jack_Sparrow> !ask > tinman
[15:21] <tinman> .: 4: Can't open /usr/share/debconf/confmodule
[15:21] <tinman> .: 35: Can't open /usr/share/debconf/confmodule
[15:21] <rich__> yeah thats true
[15:21] <jaypro> im having difficulty unpacking a jar file.  isnt it "jar -xf *.jar"?
[15:22] <toni_> rich__, is a known bug?
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: What is it you are trying to run or install
[15:22] <rich__> Ikonia, its one of those situations where you want to smash it against the wall because it doesnt make any sense
[15:22] <ikonia> rich__: just give me a moment to ponder that through
[15:22] <ikonia> rich__: I assume lsusb sees it
[15:22] <rich__> toni__ i have searched the web for hours and posted on ubuntu, no replies except the usual, umount the FS response
[15:22] <Pici> !choose
[15:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about choose - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[15:23] <rich__> yeah lsusb gives me : Bus 005 Device 018: ID 1058:0702 Western Digital Technologies, Inc.
[15:23] <tinman> Jack_Sparrow: a game called moon-buggy but i think it might be apt-get and not the file
[15:23] <Pici> tinman: How exactly did you run the command?
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> !find moon
[15:23] <tinman> see, few days ago,  had fle system problem and did a e2fsck, not sure if it's fixed or not
[15:23] <ubotu> Found: kmoon, gkrellmoon, moon-buggy, moon-buggy-esd, moon-lander (and 2 others)
[15:23] <rich__> if i can alter the partition table, i can write to the disc, so why not be able to mkfs, thats the bit that confuses me.
[15:23] <MadHag> davidman I keep getting 'out of range' when I install :(
[15:23] <tinman> apt-get install package
[15:23] <Pici> tinman: sudo?
[15:23] <scguy318> MadHag: try an alternate install
[15:24] <MadHag> done both
[15:24] <tinman> i have a root terminal open
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: Ok, what is the command you are giving to install it?
[15:24] <tinman> apt-get install moon-buggy-esd
[15:24] <ikonia> rich__: did you delete a partition before re-creating ?
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: how did you get a root terminal?
[15:24] <tinman> and it's in root terminal
[15:24] <MadHag> I will get there
[15:24] <Pici> tinman: I have a feeling that your filesystem is still messed up.  Can you access /usr/share/debconf/confmodule at all? i.e: cat /usr/share/debconf/confmodule ?
[15:25] <ikonia> rich__: I have seen a similar yet obscure bug if you did
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: sudo apt-get install moon-buggy-esd
[15:25] <tinman> Jack_Sparrow: i added a root termaial
[15:25] <MadHag> just spent a week getting Solaris to see my NIC
[15:25] <tinman> and it IS root
[15:25] <tinman> but fine, i will use sudo
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: I dont doubt you...  but it will help us help you
[15:26] <g0rb3hy> Could some one tell me what to do / read if I get "bad CDC descriptors" upon inserting a bcm430 based usb wireless card?
[15:26] <tinman> Jack_Sparrow: i did, same error
[15:26] <tinman> root@compremised:/home/fastfinger#
[15:26] <tinman> it IS root
[15:26] <tinman> lol
[15:26] <tinman> i am not lieing
[15:26] <ikonia> tinman: type "id"
[15:26] <Pici> tinman: Did you see my question above?
[15:26] <truna> allobjects, take a look at your /var/log/messages and boot log to see how the network initialized at boot, it may give you a clue if it acquired an ip or not
[15:26] <ikonia> tinman: why are you the root user ?
[15:26] <tinman> r# id
[15:26] <tinman> uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[15:26] <tinman> ikonia: to install?
[15:27] <gandalfcome> my smbfs mount in /etc/fstab stalls my computer on bootup, even though mount -a is working when the computer is running
[15:27] <ikonia> tinman: surly you should be using sudo
[15:27] <anderswc> hello, in "network tools" window i want to switch from lo to eth0
[15:27] <tinman> i know, i know
[15:27] <tinman> lol
[15:27] <gandalfcome> thanks in advance
[15:27] <anderswc> but when I switch to that, i cant "save changes"
[15:27] <anderswc> if i close the window and open it again, it's lo again :(
[15:28] <g0rb3hy> Could some one tell me what to do / read if I get "bad CDC descriptors" upon inserting a bcm430 based usb wireless card? ndiswrapper never lists the hardware as present
[15:28] <tinman> soo :x
[15:28] <Symmetria> lo all, does anyone here use pure-ftpd under ubuntu, and if so can anyone tell me exactly where I have to put the sym links to support virtual hosting (Im using the version without mysql as everything is anonymous anyway)
[15:28] <rich__> ikonia, yeah i deleted the ntfs ones and then created the linux partition.
[15:28] <tinman> apt-get install apt? LOl
[15:29] <MadHag> cant wait for my shiney new Ubuntu 7.10
[15:29] <Pici> tinman: I have a feeling that your filesystem is still messed up.  Can you access /usr/share/debconf/confmodule at all? i.e: cat /usr/share/debconf/confmodule ?
[15:29] <MadHag> but I may have to, out of range again
[15:29] <kanuha> I've lost sound on most everything except totem. what can be wrong?
[15:29] <g0rb3hy> guess not... ok a different question...
[15:29] <truna> anderswc, why do you switch to lo to eth0 ? whats the reason?
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: Could you have been using that root terminal a little to often on gui apps perhaps
[15:30] <g0rb3hy> If ndiswrapper never displays "hardware present" should i carry on trying different windows drivers?
[15:30] <tinman>  cat  /usr/share/debconf/confmodule
[15:30] <tinman> cat: /usr/share/debconf/confmodule: No such file or directory
[15:30] <Symmetria> heh soon as I get this virtual hosting story right under pure-ftpd I can bring up the new .za ubuntu mirror
[15:30] <anderswc> truna, I want to access wireless internet
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> g0rb3hy: Is this pci or pcmcia card?
[15:30] <tinman> Jack_Sparrow: huh?
[15:30] <anderswc> with lo, I can't
[15:30] <g0rb3hy> Jack_Sparrow: usb
[15:30] <tinman> i use the root terminal only for stuff that need sudo :X
[15:30] <truna> anderswc, you will never with lo, never
[15:30] <tinman> mostly
[15:31] <anderswc> truna, exactly
[15:31] <anderswc> that's why I want to switch to eth0
[15:31] <truna> anderswc, then why even try that?
[15:31] <anderswc> the default was lo
[15:31] <anderswc> i want to switch it to eth0
[15:31] <truna> anderswc, nope, never was lo ever set to be your wifi nic
[15:31] <tinman> pici? ;x no such file, now what?
[15:32] <MadHag> I have a chance to progress with the installation in low graphics mode, I presume I can finish the installation and change things a bit later on!
[15:32] <AngryElf> is there a Gmail notifier for ubuntu?
[15:32] <anderswc> truna, I don't understand
[15:32] <rich__> ikonia__. you said you saw a similar bug, any ideas what it is or where i can start to look for the epic maron of an issue
[15:32] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: Some people go a little nuts using sudo for everything...  Not that you have..  Did you ever answer pici's question above?
[15:32] <Pici> tinman: You said you had filesystem issues?
[15:32] <truna> anderswc, default configs never uses lo as the nic name
[15:32] <pike_> AngryElf: i believe google provides a linux app
[15:32] <MadHag> :me yes dave
[15:32] <MadHag> ok
[15:32] <ikonia> rich__: the bug I'm refering to is quite obscure, so it may be nothing
[15:32] <pike_> AngryElf: also you can setup pop3 and use your local mail client
[15:32] <anderswc> nic name? no I'm talking about the network device I'm using
[15:32] <ledaiz> hmmmm
[15:32] <tinman> Pici: yeah, and i also did a fsck when mounted (I know now but i didn't know then)
[15:33] <g0rb3hy> Jack_Sparrow: Its a Usb wireless adapter witha bcm430 chip inside
[15:33] <truna> anderswc, you will never with lo, never
[15:33] <tinman> i did a fsck on root partition when it was mounted :X
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> g0rb3hy: SOunds like a hardware problem, but see if someone else has any thoughts on it.
[15:33] <rich__> whats more strange is that im the only one with the issue according to google. that seems strange as there must be a lot of people with 7.10 and wd passports or seagate desktops.
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: Ouch
[15:33] <qebab> Hi there. I've been installing Ubuntu on an Acer Travelmate 4100, and a problem has turned out. The Live CD worked fine, but when I try to boot to it, I get a blank, black screen. The laptop has an ATI card of some sort, and I've heard that it doesn't go too well with X. Is there anything I can do?
[15:33] <ikonia> rich__: on some usb disks if you delete a partition and then write a partition the new partition is not visable until the disk is rescanned / or a reboot as the partition my show up in fdisk but the writes written to the partition table don't take effect until the disk is re-scanned
[15:33] <truna> anderswc, thats what lo, wlan0, eth0, eth1 are called nic name
[15:33] <mikebeecham> does anyone know if it's possible to remove the small arrow next to the menu icon in the panel?
[15:33] <tinman> Jack_Sparrow: i didn't know :'(
[15:34] <tinman> Jack_Sparrow: so i am better off with a format?
[15:34] <anderswc> truna, ahh, I understand
[15:34] <ikonia> rich__: it used to happen a lot if you deleted a partition while the file system was mounted
[15:34] <truna> anderswc, except lo that  is not really a nic
[15:34] <tinman> cause apt-get is only thing with serious issue
[15:34] <tinman> i think
[15:34] <ikonia> rich__: but locks where put in place to stop that, so it's quite rare now
[15:34] <MadHag> looks like I am destined to stay with SuSE
[15:34] <g0rb3hy> Could some one tell me what to do / read if I get "bad CDC descriptors" upon inserting a bcm430 based usb wireless card? ndiswrapper never lists the hardware as present
[15:34] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: Wait for Pici.. he may have something up his sleeve...
[15:34] <pike_> qebab: alt-ctrl-f2 then login then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then choose vesa driver and hit enter for default on everything else then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[15:34] <anderswc> So for wireless I'll need wlan0 right?
[15:34] <randorfer> MadHag whats going on that you say that?
[15:34] <pike_> qebab: should get you back up
[15:35] <ikonia> g0rb3hy: it doesn't like the "checksum" of a file or device id
[15:35] <qebab> pike_: thanks a lot :)
[15:35] <MadHag> graphics
[15:35] <truna> rich__, always do a sync, sync, sync 3 times before unmounting partitions
[15:35] <MadHag> out of range with installation
[15:35] <g0rb3hy> ikonia: could u elaborate?
[15:35] <Pici> tinman: to your knowledge, you can try running a fsck while in recovery mode while everything is unmounted, but it might just be time to backup and reinstall/reformat.
[15:35] <randorfer> madhag you can get the same graphics performance in any distro those projects are not related / tied to any specific one
[15:35] <truna> anderswc, you have to learn to prefix with a nic on your responses or else i will miss yours
[15:35] <anderswc> truna, sorry
[15:35] <ikonia> g0rb3hy: http://www.mepis.org/node/10321
[15:35] <MadHag> just had the chance to go on with low graphics mode, I said do it now it is hanging a bit
[15:36] <g0rb3hy> ikonia: ty
[15:36] <ikonia> g0rb3hy: that gives a reasonable explination
[15:36] <rich__> but i have other discs that i delete, mksfs all the time and they are as good as gold, its just these new shiny ones that come in closed cases that are uesless
[15:36] <tinman> Pici: yessir, now i know to run e2fsck when drive is unmounted and from previous bad experience mt /home is in different partition :X
[15:36] <rich__> if i get an old disc and shove it into an old caddie its fine.
[15:36] <tinman> so i can safely only format my /root right?
[15:36] <anderswc> truna, my computer has a wireless card, but wlan0 does not show up
[15:36] <Pici> tinman: Yep.
[15:36] <ikonia> rich__: it's because of udev and the usb bus
[15:36] <allobjects> truna: FYI, reading /var/log/messages
[15:36] <truna> rich__, new and plug n play...USB drives takes awhile to sync up...so always sync sync sync
[15:36] <ikonia> rich__: it's a pretty rare situation
[15:36] <randorfer> anderswc run iwconfig and post the results
[15:36] <tinman> :D Thank you Pici and Jack_Sparrow
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: the livecd will let you keep your home and only format /   yes
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: Sorry it was not a better answer
[15:37] <tinman> it's okey
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> tinman: Use manual partitioning
[15:37] <anderswc> randorfer, it says lo and eth0 have no wireless extensions
[15:37] <tinman> i was about to format last time but live cd didnt let me
[15:37] <tinman> it told me I HAD to run e2fsck
[15:37] <tinman> lol
[15:37] <truna> anderswc, what do you get when you use the network manager?  system->administration-> network?
[15:38] <randorfer> anderswc have you done anything to setup your wireless yet or are you just beginning to try?
[15:38] <randorfer> truna, iwconfig said nothing for him ie network manager will show nothing
[15:38] <anderswc> randorfer, I have done nothing, I am trying to figure out what to do :)
[15:39] <truna> randorfer, i advised him, if not addressed to me, i miss messages..so i missed what was addressed to you and not me
[15:39] <anderswc> truna, dito randerfer
[15:39] <randorfer> anderswc allright then we will start from step one, run lspci | grep Wireless
[15:39] <tqt1586_> hi
[15:39] <randorfer> truna, ahh sorry didn't mean to come off badly
[15:39] <g0rb3hy> ikonia: Thanks for that, so if i make my own 99-custom.rules with the info from lsusb -v it should tell the OS to use ndiswrapper when i insert the device?
[15:39] <truna> thanks randorfer for taking over..have to deliver something now..laters
[15:39] <ikonia> g0rb3hy: that could work
[15:39] <randorfer> truna, have a good one
[15:39] <truna> thanks
[15:40] <rich__> ok so i need to delete the partition then sync sync sync and it will work
[15:40] <anderswc> randorfer, 06:00.0 Ethernet controller Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5006EG 802.11 b/g Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[15:41] <rich__> mkfs.xfs: cannot open /dev/sdc: Device or resource busy
[15:41] <randorfer> anderswc wonderfull
[15:41] <anderswc> :)
[15:41] <ikonia> rich__: you don't do /dev/sdc
[15:41] <tinman> i have one more question, i installed windows today, after months, and i got sync ut of range, any idea how to fix this on windows? ctrl+alt+ + didn't work :x
[15:41] <rich__> omg this is PAIN on a whole new level,
[15:41] <randorfer> anderswc one second and ill get you up and running
[15:41] <ikonia> rich__: sdc1
[15:41] <anderswc> randorfer, thanks :)
[15:41] <rich__> ?
[15:41] <ikonia> rich__: also - reboot so you know your disk partition tables have JUST been read, then try
[15:41] <ikonia> rich__: sdc is the disk, sdc1 is the partition
[15:41] <rich__> ok so what are the command?
[15:41] <rich__> yeah, and?
[15:42] <ikonia> rich__: "sudo mke2fs -j /dev/sdc1"
[15:42] <rich__> yeah
[15:42] <rich__> mkfs.xfs: cannot open /dev/sdc1: Device or resource busy
[15:43] <rich__> it just doesnt want to work, ive rebooted, deleted, synced, it just doesnt want to work, unless i use centos5
[15:43] <randorfer> anderswc look at this file and run the corresponding commands, if you have any troubles give me a shout and ill trouble shoot for you http://pastebin.archlinux.org/23042
[15:43]  * MadHag shouts and screams
[15:43] <ikonia> rich__: ok - so reboot and lets see what happens. Reboot - don't delete, don't sync don't do anything, just reboot and lets check some stuff
[15:43] <rich__> ok
[15:43] <rich__> brb
[15:43] <ikonia> MadHag: stop using /me commands please, this channel is busy enough with random outburst
[15:43] <MadHag> ok
[15:44] <randorfer> anderswc, you lucky if you had been trying to do this about 2 months ago there was no native wireless support for your card, had to use ndiswrapper and windows drivers
[15:44] <noroot> ikonia: u used to be pretty active on LFS channel, when shifted to ubuntu!!
[15:44] <ikonia> noroot no, I'm still very very active on LFS
[15:44] <ikonia> noroot: that is my primary project still
[15:45] <allobjects> randorfer: I need to manually restart networking whenever I reboot for my wireless to work...any ideas ?
[15:45] <noroot> ikonia: what next after BLFS
[15:45] <ikonia> noroot: I don't work on BLFS, but if you want to chat on that I suggest we join #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:45] <noroot> allobjects: using modprobe
[15:45] <randorfer> allobjects:  are you running network manager or just plain jain network
[15:45] <Daykun> :( У мну не получается настроить раздачу Интернета на ноутбук ( Можете сказать, что я делаю не так?
[15:45] <lonejack> hi all, problem, I connected a new HD to the system, I can I get in ?
[15:46] <MadHag> SQUASHFS error
[15:46] <MadHag> lots of them
[15:46] <Zeyelth> I'm trying to decrypt one of my server harddrives, but Ubuntu appears to lack the appropriate encryption algo ("Failed to setup dm-crypt key mapping. Check kernel for support for the blowfish-cbc-plain cipher spec...").
[15:46] <randorfer> allobjects:  if you dont know thats fine we can find out
[15:46] <Pici> !ru | Daykun
[15:46] <noroot> ikonia: actually u helped me when i was trying LFS first time, just wanted to say thanks
[15:46] <Zeyelth> How would I go about fixing that?
[15:46] <Daykun> hello, people!!! Help me share Internet connection to the laptop
[15:46] <ubotu> Daykun: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[15:46] <Jack_Sparrow> lonejack: Did you move the existing drive to a different cable/location
[15:46] <ikonia> noroot: your more than welcome, nice to see you getting along
[15:46] <dbrewer_rjr> does anyone think i can find a paid tech support person for ubuntu that could also handle the ispconfig package i installed during the 'perfect feisty' setup from howtoforge??? Where would I post a request for this??
[15:47] <ikonia> dbrewer_rjr: canonical do paid suport
[15:47] <Pici> dbrewer_rjr: contact canonical support
[15:47] <J-_> Upon restarting, I got an error starting the gnome settings daemon. here's the pastebin; http://pastebin.ca/841357 (that was shown in a window when I booted into gnome) My theme and everything else is messed up. what can I do to fix it?
[15:47] <randorfer> Zeyelth should be in a crypto package somewhere, try apt-cache serach crypto and look at what you find
[15:47] <basy> some pages never stop downloading on Konqueror and Firefox too, when i turn off javascript everithing is OK, what is wrong with javasctipt, how to fix?
[15:47] <roma2k> hi all
[15:47] <Sonja> how do i tell firefox to send mailto to thunderbird instead of evolution??
[15:47] <randorfer> dbrewer_rjr just ask you question in here you may get support
[15:48] <allobjects> randorfer: I think I am running netwokr manager as this is a fresh gutsy install, however I have my wirless set on static ip aswell as my wired nic
[15:48] <roma2k> oops... this is not russian server?
[15:48] <lonejack> Jack_Sparrow: no, is an old HD I removed momentary the cd because I need to get my old files...
[15:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: I thought it was somewhere in about:config  in firefox
[15:48] <roma2k> есть кто из РФ???
[15:48] <J-_> !english
[15:48] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[15:48] <allobjects> randorfer: I have tried removing tick from wired nic but that does not make any difference
[15:49] <randorfer> Sonja those settings (recieving mail) are all handled by the correspondings aps (thunderbird / evolution) not by firebird, you need to setup the email accounts in there if I read your question correctly
[15:49] <julemand101> when i try install the packages flashplugin-nonfree on my 64 bit computer it give a "md5sum mismatch" error. The md5sum in the packages is not updateted to the new flash version.
[15:49] <Pici> !ru | roma2k
[15:49] <ubotu> roma2k: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[15:49] <Fatih_Akdeniz> slm
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> lonejack: Assuming these are ide do you have two cables or one..?
[15:49] <Zeyelth> randorfer: I'm not getting anything related when grepping for blowfish. Only perl packages.
[15:49] <randorfer> allobjects but it works when you restart the network manager?
[15:49] <g0rb3hy> ikonia: hmm no joy, but it has helped me understand some more things! =)
[15:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !flashissues > julemand101
[15:49] <lonejack> Jack_Sparrow: two
[15:49] <roma2k> ок =)
[15:49] <BlkGhost> can someone help me setup compiz on Ubuntu it seems none of the Effects will start up ???
[15:49] <dbrewer_rjr> we are experiencing a latency issue on a brand new server we configured with feisty and ispconfig. it serves up web pages slower than our 3 year old server!! we need help fast.
[15:49] <randorfer> Zeyelth blowfish is a common crypto package I think it is in just one of the larger crypto packages, google for it
[15:50] <julemand101> !flashissues
[15:50] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[15:50] <randorfer> allobjects what is the result of lspci | grep Wireless
[15:50] <Jack_Sparrow> lonejack: IS the cable you are uing primary or secondary.. sounds like you need to change a jumper
[15:50] <Zeyelth> randorfer: Googling for blowfish-cbc-plain returns 0 results...
[15:51] <Sonja> randorfer so i can tell thunderbird to catch all mailto links opened from firefox?
[15:51] <allobjects> randorfer: FYI I also have my wired nick eth cable removed thinking network manager and roaming mode were playing a part but no luck
[15:51] <g0rb3hy> ikonia: I knowtice there is only one "choise", how can I find out what those choises equate to?
[15:51] <Sonja> there's no place in ubuntu where i can say that i want thunderbird to be my default mail app for everything?
[15:51] <try> Enable compression on the VPN link can improve the net speed??
[15:51] <randorfer> Zeyleth sudo apt-get install libcrypt-blowfish-perl
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: Prefered applications under system
[15:52] <randorfer> Sonja ahh, thats what you mean, no that does need to be setup in firefox, I thought you were asking how to recieve mail
[15:52] <Zeyelth> randorfer: Why perl? Perl shouldn't have anything to do with cryptsetup.
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Sonja: I thought it was somewhere in about:config  in firefox  search for mailto
[15:52] <lonejack> Jack_Sparrow: I left it as it is, cable select. The problem is taht I don't know how the system calls this new HD...
[15:52] <MadHag> is there a verbose mode for ubuntu installation?
[15:52] <randorfer> Zeyelth:  blowfish was implemented in perl in that package I believe
[15:52] <g0rb3hy> When i insert a USB device and it says "chooseing configuration #1" how can i figure out what those choises are?
[15:53] <randorfer> Zeyelth try it and see what happens
[15:53] <ikonia> MadHag: look at other terminals during the install
[15:53] <Sonja> ok
[15:53] <Zeyelth> randorfer: Testing, though I think I've tried this before.
[15:53] <MartianLobster> I have a new ubuntu laptop, with mozilla 2.0.   It doesn't play nice with logmein.com  Here are the errors:  http://acumen.dyndns.biz/logmein.error2.txt       Logmein.com works fine with my old gentoo laptop running mozilla 1.5.   Does anyone know how to fix this?
[15:53] <Jack_Sparrow> lonejack: are you sure your cable is a cable select type and how is the jumper set on the other drive
[15:53] <scguy318> MadHag: verbose? like text-mode?
[15:53] <randorfer> allobjects:  what was the result of lspci | grep wireless
[15:53] <randorfer> allobjects:  what was the result of lspci | grep Wireless
[15:53] <MadHag> I want to know whats going on
[15:53] <scguy318> MadHag: you can tail /var/log/messages if you want
[15:53] <ikonia> MadHag: check the other tty's during the install
[15:53] <MadHag> when it installs
[15:53] <Zeyelth> Nope, still getting the same result... Brb, I'll try rebooting.
[15:53] <allobjects> randorfer: sorry, missed your follow up... 1. lspci | grep Wireless returns nothing and 2. Yes it work when I do 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart'
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> MadHag: F6 at start or install and remove quiet
[15:54] <g0rb3hy> I dont know what $devpath would be in /sys/$devpath/device/bConfigurationValue  =s
[15:54] <MadHag> ok
[15:54] <randorfer> allobjects what does lspci | grep Ethernet return
[15:54] <g0rb3hy> and I want to cat bConfigurationValue
[15:54] <Jack_Sparrow> MadHag: also try F6 noapic  if you are having trouble getting live desktop
[15:55] <mattva01> can anyone tell me why  Soyuz is giving me this  error :dpkg-source: error: Files field contains invalid filename `apjava_1.0.0.-1ubuntu1.tar.gz?
[15:55] <randorfer> allobjects:  if you want we can continue to troubleshoot this other wise I can give you a "hack" that will make it work, which would you prefer?
[15:55] <godzirra>  /join #android
[15:55] <godzirra> oops.
[15:55] <ikonia> mattva01: looks like the file name is not valid any more
[15:55] <mattva01> ?
[15:55] <allobjects> randorfer: lspci | grep ethernet returns   02:08.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82562EZ 10/100 Ethernet Controller (rev 01)
[15:55] <randorfer> allobjects:  the hack is to simply put sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart in your system -> preference -> sessions
[15:56] <ikonia> mattva01: the source package is looking for a tar file that has the wrong name
[15:56] <MadHag> loads of errors, must be a bad disk
[15:56] <Roge> last time i tried ubuntu when i tried to enable desktop effects "on this same machine" it told me i needed to use a restricted driver and installed it for me this time round its just saying desktop effects could not be enabled. ive tried doing it through the screens config in system > administration but it doesnt stick when i log out and in it reverts back to the generic
[15:56] <randorfer> allobjects:  is your wireless usb?
[15:56] <JC_Denton_> I've put a ubuntu hd into another machine and X server is saying no screens found. How do I get it to reconfigure
[15:56] <MadHag> I am now in ubuntu but with no screen
[15:56] <MadHag> any command line experts out there
[15:57] <ikonia> Nephlite_: boot into safe mode "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[15:57] <MadHag> alt f2 and take it from there
[15:57] <Jack_Sparrow> JC_Denton_: recovery mode  then sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:57] <Roge> im no expert MadHag but what are you trying to do
[15:57] <randorfer> MadHag, im comfortable on the cl whats your questions
[15:57] <allobjects> randorfer: would the hack mean need to enter sudo password each time ? and no the wireless is not usb it is a D-Link PCI 510 I think
[15:57] <ikonia> MadHag: what do you want
[15:57] <MadHag> just installed but got no screen
[15:57] <AngryElf> when I get a new mail in evolution that little blinky thing comes up inthe panel -- but when I click it, my new email doesn't pop up on the screen, any wayt to make that happen/
[15:57] <Kalzath> You have no screen?
[15:57] <MadHag> I heard the music :)
[15:57] <Kalzath> You have no monitor?
[15:57] <MadHag> nope
[15:57] <ikonia> MadHag: what do you mean, got no screen
[15:57] <MadHag> yep
[15:57] <randorfer> allobjects, no you wouldn't need to enter your sudo passwd each time because we would change one other file aswell
[15:57] <Pici> !who
[15:57] <ubotu> As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[15:57] <MadHag> out of range
[15:58] <ikonia> MadHag: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[15:58] <Kalzath> Aah, so you can get to the console, just not into X?
[15:58] <ikonia> MadHag: make sure you select the "vesa" driver
[15:58] <MadHag> cant see jack
[15:58] <Zeyelth> randorfer: Rebooting after installing it helped, thanks.
[15:58]  * Kalzath hugs ikonia
[15:58] <Kalzath> What they said :)
[15:58] <randorfer> Zeyelth:  np
[15:59] <MadHag> thing is I must be at the installation part
[15:59] <ikonia> MadHag: ???
[15:59] <Jack_Sparrow> MadHag: Does alt-F2 give you cli?
[15:59] <MadHag> because I have done nothing with root yet
[15:59] <ikonia> MadHag: you just said you where are the command line prompt
[15:59] <randorfer> allobjects, if you are going to use the session fix you need to edit your /etc/sudoers file and uncomment this line %wheel  ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: SETENV: ALL
[15:59] <ikonia> MadHag: you don't do anything with root
[15:59] <Pici> MadHag: Are you on the LiveCD right now?
[15:59] <MadHag> I tried to install
[15:59] <MadHag> no screen
[16:00] <MadHag> but ready to install now I think
[16:00] <randorfer> madhag, did it leave you at a command line?
[16:00] <allobjects> randorfer: I appreciate your help and I don't wish to waste your time, if the hack is most practical then lets go with that, but I think I would rather really understand what's up here
[16:00] <MadHag> I am blind to all
[16:00] <ikonia> MadHag: please be clear, you said you had installed
[16:00] <Pici> MadHag: You didnt answer my question, are you using the LiveCD?
[16:00] <MadHag> listen
[16:00] <Pici> !enter | MadHag
[16:00] <ubotu> MadHag: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[16:00] <MadHag> ubuntu is diffeerent
[16:00] <Jack_Sparrow> MadHag: Did you get to a screen that says start or install
[16:01] <randorfer> allobjects, if I was more familiar with your wireless card I could offer more help but as it is I would be googling for answers and the hack will work for you
[16:01] <MadHag> it seems to have installed to a place where I can now install
[16:01] <MadHag> but I have no screen
[16:01] <pmratpoison> hello! Gutsy AMD64. I need help w/ VLC. I'm using ATI's new fglrx driver w/ compiz enabled. I have solved the issue of video playback by defaulting to the X11 video output method. My problem is that when in fullscreen, the subs look extremely large
[16:01] <ikonia> MadHag: installed to a place where you can now install ?
[16:01] <Pici> MadHag: I dont know what you are talking about.  If you remove the Ubuntu CD, does your system boot to Ubuntu?
[16:01] <JC_Denton_> Jack_Sparrow thanks but after going through the default settings and setting via as my driver I have the same prob
[16:01] <randorfer> allobjects, if you are interested I would suggest you do the same (ie google ubuntu YOUR CARD HERE) and read the forum posts reguarding it
[16:01] <ikonia> MadHag: slow down and try to explain clearly
[16:01] <MadHag> I dld from the site, burnt to a disk
[16:01] <ikonia> MadHag: are you currently booting from the cd rom
[16:01] <MadHag> ran the disk and have this strange experience
[16:02] <Sonja> what's the full path to thunderbird in ubuntu?
[16:02] <MadHag> yes
[16:02] <Sonja> i need to set up about:config in firefox
[16:02] <Jack_Sparrow> JC_Denton_: Dont remember the problem.. but I thought I said to set to vesa driver not vi
[16:02] <randorfer> Sonja, locate thunderbird
[16:02] <MadHag> its fine on my laptop
[16:02] <randorfer> Sonja, and find out?
[16:02] <Sonja> how do i locate it?
[16:02] <allobjects> randorfer: the strange thing is I'm using the same card in 3 other machines here
[16:02] <ikonia> Sonja: the command is locate
[16:02] <Sonja> or is thaht a console command?
[16:02] <Sonja> oh neat
[16:02] <Pici> MadHag: You need to download the Alternate CD from ubuntu's download page, This works on a wider range of hardware than the liveCD.
[16:02] <Pici> !alternate | MadHag
[16:02] <ubotu> MadHag: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[16:02] <JC_Denton_> ah the graphics are onboard via but ill try vesa
[16:02] <MadHag> its like it goes to the live cd before the actuall installation*
[16:02] <JC_Denton_> ah the graphics are onboard via but ill try vesa, Jack_Sparrow  , thanks
[16:03] <MadHag> ok I will try that
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> JC_Denton_: JUst trying to get you to the gui
[16:03] <MadHag> thanks guys
[16:03] <Pici> MadHag: Good luck
[16:03] <pmratpoison> JC_Denton_: in an earlier edition that is what solved my problem
[16:03] <MadHag> strange scenes inside the gold mine
[16:03] <Jack_Sparrow> MadHag: You can also try burning the same cd/iso at a very slow speed
[16:03] <Roge> when i change the graphics card in the  "screens and graphics config" it doesnt actually change it keeps going back to vesa the test of the driver does work. any idea's ?
[16:03] <randorfer> allobjects:  the other thing is I am not sitting infront of a buntu comp so I can help you troubleshoot what daemons are running at startup, that is what I really think needs to be changed (ie ensure that /etc/init.d/networking is started at runlevel 5)
[16:04] <rich__> ikonia, what do you want me to try
[16:04] <joha_> Hi!
[16:04] <joha_> How do I install PEAR for PHP5 under Ubuntu Dapper?
[16:04] <pmratpoison> just sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and "where is" to find via. Change the driver value into "vesa"
[16:04] <ikonia> rich__: ok - so you've just done a reboot, can you please put the following in a pastebin "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc" and "mount" lets check the status of this disk
[16:04] <ubuntunewb07> hey guys, how can i list all the current ips ubuntu has binded to it
[16:04] <JC_Denton_> Jack_Sparrow: what's the difference? vesa works works, thanks! pmratpoison , ok, thanks. wonder how
[16:04] <ikonia> ubuntunewb07: ifconfig -a
[16:05] <ubuntunewb07> ty
[16:05] <toni_> rich__, ikonia  deleting all partition with acronis is possible? so you should have a new raw disk...
[16:05] <pmratpoison> JC_Denton_ for more info google openchrome or unichrome
[16:05] <ubuntunewb07> ah yeh thought so some are missing, how do i add new ips?
[16:05] <rich__> its identical to before mate
[16:05] <Jack_Sparrow> JC_Denton_: vesa runs on everything.. now that you know you can get in and everything works, you can work on getting the via driver setup correctly
[16:05] <ikonia> rich__: ok, can you please show the output of mount please so I can see what's where
[16:06] <Jack_Sparrow> JC_Denton_: Hope that helps
[16:06] <joha_> nm found it :)
[16:06] <pmratpoison> JC_Denton_ U should note that some VIA chipsets work better w/ vesa. But on some there is absolutely no 3d accelartion
[16:06] <ubuntunewb07> how do i add new IP's to ubuntu?
[16:06] <ikonia> ubuntunewb07: use the network admin gui
[16:06] <pmratpoison> JC_Denton_ such as on my other machine
[16:06] <ikonia> ubuntunewb07: system --> admin --> networking
[16:06] <randorfer> ubuntunewb07:  what exactly are you asking
[16:06] <ubuntunewb07> im not on gui, im on chui
[16:06] <ikonia> ubuntunewb07: chui ?
[16:06] <g0rb3hy> ikonia: hmm, now I just get 3 lines of "bad CDC descriptors" instead of 1 time to try different windows drivers?
[16:07] <ubuntunewb07> well i have been allocated ips by my host, but im not sure how to bind to them
[16:07] <pmratpoison> JC_Denton_ it uses an ASRock mobo, i don't remember which one
[16:07] <JC_Denton_> pmratpoison: , Jack_Sparrow the machine will only be used for web browsing and oo.org so vesa should be ok , thanks to u both
[16:07] <rich__> there you go man http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50724/
[16:07] <ikonia> g0rb3hy: I don't support ndiswrapper, sorry
[16:07] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[16:07] <randorfer> ubuntunewb:  man bind
[16:07] <allobjects> randorfer: looking at my /etc/sudoers file it does not have: this line %wheel  ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: SETENV: ALL
[16:07] <ikonia> randorfer: bind ? thats not going to do anything
[16:07] <anderswc> randerfor, I did all the installation stuff but iwinconfic still says no wireless extensions :(
[16:07] <ubuntunewb07> i know in bsd you have to edit  /etc/rc.conf and put them as interface aliases is it same in ubuntu
[16:08] <allobjects> randorfer: only has # %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL is that what you mean ?
[16:08] <pmratpoison> http://wiki.openchrome.org/tikiwiki/tiki-index.php?page=The+Different+Unichrome+family+display+drivers for the different version of drivers
[16:08] <ubuntunewb07> man bind isnt what i need
[16:08] <ikonia> ubuntunewb07: use the network admin gui in system -> admin --> networking
[16:08] <Pici> randorfer: I'm going to suggest not to answer if you dont know the answer, sometimes guessing when troubleshooting can create more problems.
[16:08] <randorfer> allobjects:  yes and put a # on the other one
[16:08] <ubuntunewb07> ikonia: i dont have a system -> admin im using ssh
[16:08] <pmratpoison> JC_Denton_: you're quite wellcome, in the site I pasted, you can find which chips work w/ 3d and which not
[16:08] <ikonia> rich__: ok, that all looks pretty clear, have you tested making an fs yet ?
[16:08] <quaal> what does this mean "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Permission denied" I get it whenever i open a kde application (k9copy, konqueror, k3b) I'm running gnome
[16:08] <Stonelion> Hey all, I'm having a problem with opengl and compiz on the fglrx driver for ati cards... I got my system installed, got my vga out port on my laptop to work, got opengl and compiz running (so i can do rotate cube desktop switching) and eveything works fine right up untill i try to open a root terminal and the popup for root pass comes up... then it looks like my displays nolonger update... i can drag a window and see nothing, untill i
[16:08] <Stonelion> rotate the cube then come back, to find the window in the new dragged space
[16:09] <shampoonator> hi, i have a little problem.. i installed teamspeak client and the GUI font is so small i cant read it at all
[16:09] <shampoonator> any ideas :D ?
[16:09] <JC_Denton_> already one prob with scrolling - it's terribly laggy
[16:09] <jakel1> shampoonator, a magnify glass maybe
[16:10] <Pici> shampoonator: is msttcorefonts installed?
[16:10] <jakel1> i think there is software for that
[16:10] <randorfer> ubuntunewb07:  man ifconfig I should have said
[16:10] <pmratpoison> JC_Denton_ : I have noticed that too, I haven't been able to fix this
[16:10] <ubuntunewb07> ifconfig ty
[16:10] <allobjects> randorfer: sorry to be a pain, but "other one" ? I have 'root	ALL=(ALL) ALL' and '%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL'
[16:10] <jakel1> for some reason ifconfig does not work in my linux distro
[16:10] <Stonelion> i would be happy if i could just find a solution for something to run to fix the opengl compiz, maybe restart it after i freeze my updating...
[16:10] <JC_Denton_> pmratpoison: hmm, ok. not too encouraging
[16:10] <ikonia> ubuntunewb07: please don't use ifconfig as that won't set the addresses, look at the /etc/interfaces file.
[16:10] <Pici> jakel1: On Ubuntu?
[16:11] <randorfer> allobjects:  type groups for me on the command line
[16:11] <ubuntunewb07> ah ok
[16:11] <ikonia> jakel1: sudo ifconfig
[16:11] <jakel1> Pici nah.... opensuse... my ubuntu system is working fine... well sorta
[16:11] <shampoonator> no Pici never heard of it.. ill try
[16:11] <rich__> mkfs.xfs: cannot open /dev/sdb1: Device or resource busy
[16:11] <jakel1> ikonia command not found on the system
[16:11] <ikonia> jakel1: ifconfig is not always setuid
[16:11] <ikonia> jakel1: it's owned by root:root normally
[16:11] <jakel1> it doesn't exist ikonia...
[16:11] <ikonia> jakel1: other distro's don't use if config (ip route for example)
[16:11] <Pici> jakel1: Okay, just a reminder, this channel is only for Ubuntu support, #ubuntu-offtopic for anything else or perhaps #opensuse or #suse.
[16:11] <jakel1> i already looked
[16:11] <Pici> ikonia: hes using suse.
[16:11] <pmratpoison> JC_Denton_ : don't think I'm an expert or sth, I'm just a normal user, w/ 1 year ubuntu experience. But a w/ driver still in development, no 3d support and 32MB's of ram borrowed from your RAM, just be thankful that it works
[16:11] <ikonia> Pici: ughhh
[16:12] <Pici> ikonia: yeah.
[16:12] <ikonia> rich__: I can't see what's locking your device, the only think I can think of is udev
[16:12] <pmratpoison> ram = video memory
[16:12] <jakel1> Pici, it was on topic cuz someone was talking about it and it reminded me of the opensuse system
[16:12] <ikonia> jakel1: opensuse is not on topic
[16:12] <ubuntunewb07> /etc/interfaces dosent exist
[16:12] <jakel1> but ifconfig not working is
[16:12] <ikonia> jakel1: and opensuse not having ifconfig has nothing to do with ubuntu
[16:12] <Pici> jakel1: No, its not on topic, this isnt a chat channel.  Plus ikonia just spent some time trying to help you get that to work.
[16:12] <Joelito> hi all, does ubuntu comes with a md5 sum checker?
[16:13] <pmratpoison> Joelito: if you're referring to the livecd, yup
[16:13] <randorfer> ubuntunewb07:  ifconfig should do what you are asking, it is what is used to setup your network interfaces....
[16:13] <ikonia> ubuntunewb07: /etc/network/interfaces, sorry
[16:14] <quaal> what does this mean "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Permission denied" I get it whenever i open a kde application (k9copy, konqueror, k3b) I'm running gnome
[16:14] <Joelito> pmratpoison: Hi, I mean once installed, how to check md5 for files.
[16:14] <ikonia> Joelito: md5sum $file
[16:14] <allobjects> randorfer: denis adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner lpadmin admin netdev powerdev
[16:14] <allobjects> randorfer: should I pastebin my sudoers ?
[16:14] <ng0n> anyone know the insmod dir to load pci wireless drivers to ?
[16:15] <ikonia> ng0n: what card
[16:15] <k0> does anyone know of any applet for the gnome panel that lets u control amarok?
[16:15] <ng0n> Realtec RTL8185
[16:15] <randorfer> allobjects:  sure then ill pastebin back the correct one ;-)
[16:15] <Joelito> ikonia: Thanks :)
[16:15] <netgear> how do i install dvd css library? i cannot find libdvdcss?
[16:15] <ikonia> ng0n: that should get probed at boot time
[16:15] <mo1991> can anyone tell me if they have nvidia drivers working for any recent versions of ubuntu.  I am using debian lenny amd64 and there are no nvidia-glx drivers working
[16:15] <rich__> what can i do with udev?
[16:15] <ikonia> mo1991: what card
[16:15] <shampoonator> Pici, i installed them (funny message h at the end but worked) but teamspeak is still small
[16:15] <ng0n> ok.
[16:15] <pmratpoison> it does..I think md5sum is pretty core utility stuff for a distro not to have
[16:16] <ikonia> rich__:  you could try stopping it, but thats only a random suggestion as I can't think of anything else that would lock it
[16:16] <rich__> ...to sort out the issue
[16:16] <rich__> thats my issue too
[16:16] <pmratpoison> add a much where applied in previous sentence
[16:16] <allobjects> !pastebin
[16:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[16:17] <Lunitari71> This might be an easy one, but I can't seem to find the answer... I'd like the little update icon I have on the the desktop to ignore any kernel updates... Where can I configure this? Anyone knows?
[16:17] <ikonia> Lunitari71: apt-cache policy
[16:17] <puppt> !libdvdcss2 | netgear
[16:17] <ubotu> netgear: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[16:18] <muskie> Hey all, I finally got everything working.. almost.
[16:18] <rich__> killed it, mkfs, restarted, mkfs  still no joy
[16:18] <rich__> GRRR this is a nightmate
[16:18] <ikonia> rich__: restarted what ?
[16:18] <rich__> nightmare, a nightmate would be a girlfriend
[16:18] <rich__> udev
[16:18] <allobjects> randorfer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50726/
[16:18] <ikonia> rich__: try not starting it, just killing it, again it's a long shot, but I can't see what would lock a device file
[16:18] <Pici> shampoonator: I'm not sure then, quick google suggests that its a known issue, but I dont see any fixes.
[16:18] <rich__> i tried that no joy
[16:18] <rich__> then started it again, no joy
[16:19] <muskie> I was just wondering if there's any way to diable a particular piece of hardware. The inbuilt mouse on my laptop is totally screwing up, so I want to disable it.
[16:19] <shampoonator> mmh :( thx :)
[16:19] <rich__> what i dont understand is why there arent any other examples on the net.
[16:19] <ikonia> rich__: obscure situation
[16:19] <muskie> it's appearing under my hardware list in device manager, but I can't find a way to turn it off
[16:19] <ikonia> rich__: I use that same disk without any issue
[16:20] <ikonia> rich__: out of interest, have you tried other file systems ?
[16:20] <rich__> really? which kernel are you using?
[16:20] <ikonia> rich__: again, just looking at random stuff here
[16:20] <rich__> same issue, any FS
[16:20] <allobjects> randorfer: alternatively would my /var/log/messages help ?
[16:20] <ikonia> rich__: same as you and older
[16:21] <rich__> 2.6.22-14
[16:21] <ikonia> rich__: yup
[16:21] <couli1> question for a linux / ubuntu user. my uni recquires http authentification for internet, (very anoying), rhytmbox can not not download podcast without this auth, but there is no place for setting http auth credentials. is there a solution other than manual download .. ? thank you
[16:21] <randorfer> allobjects: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50727/
[16:21] <mrga_cro> how can i remove directroy from terminal
[16:21] <rich__> damn it, so something has happened. im using an encrpyted filesystem, but i cant see how that matters
[16:21] <hwilde> !antivirus
[16:21] <ubotu> antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[16:21] <mrga_cro> i use this rm
[16:21] <couli1> rmdir
[16:21] <hwilde> !linuxvirus
[16:21] <ubotu> The short life and hard times of a Linux Virus http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[16:21] <scguy318> couli1: possibly System -> Prefs -> Network Proxy
[16:21] <hwilde> !virus
[16:21] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[16:21] <pmratpoison> coulil: I assume you don't have the option of using another player?
[16:22] <couli1> pmratpoison: i could
[16:22] <couli1> pmratpoison: which one ?
[16:22] <rich__> so now i know its an issue with my installation
[16:22] <PaT_TrickS27> hi !
[16:22] <muskie> anyone have any idea?
[16:22] <rich__> do you think?
[16:22] <pmratpoison> I don't know which one has the specific feature, I can point you to exaile or amarok, which are much more fully featured than rythmbox
[16:22] <okeefenokee_> Hiya folks. I'm having a sneaky problem with Gutsy, VDR and using different tty:s as described at the address http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=658014. Any help would be deeply appreciated.
[16:23] <pmratpoison> coulil: especially amarok, if you don't mind using a KDE app on GNOME (makes it slightly slower, not much of an issue imo)
[16:23] <sadaiyappan> Hi.
[16:23] <PaT_TrickS27> i have an amd64x2 cpu and i want to know if hyperthreading will give 4 cpu if make cat /proc/cpuinfo
[16:23] <Pici> !blacklist | muskie
[16:23] <ubotu> muskie: To blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »
[16:24] <muskie> thankyou.
[16:24] <pmratpoison> coulil: you could try also banshee which is a "me too" for itunes on GNOME
[16:25] <Lunitari71> ikonia: Can you be a bit more specific about apt-cache policy? It lists my current repositories... But right now my update manager wants to update 2 linux-headers packages and one linux-image package. How do I tell it to ignore linux-headers* and linux-image* ?
[16:25] <ikonia> Lunitari71: you need to set the policy for the kernel package, using apt-cache policy, out of interest why do you not want headers updating ?
[16:25] <pmratpoison> Lunitari71: how about using synaptic to "force version"
[16:26] <Lunitari71> ikonia: Because I don't want to recompile vmware workstation everytime there is an update
[16:26] <pmratpoison> click a package and then from the menu Package > Lock Version
[16:26] <x-X-x> I bought unreal tournament 2004 editors choice edition DVD and it doesnt have a linux installer. does anyone know how i can install it ?
[16:26] <PaT_TrickS27> does anyone can help me please ? I want to know how to verify if hyperthreading is active on my ubuntu
[16:27] <ikonia> PaT_TrickS27: do you have multiple cpu's showing ?
 yes but i have a dualcore CPU (AMDx2 3800)
[16:27] <muskie> xxx: unrealtournament.com will have the file.
[16:28] <Yv12345vY> PaT_TrickS27, did you see this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=895077
[16:28] <Pici> Do AMDs have hyperthreading? I thought it was only an intel thing...
 I have try
 when I cat/proc/cpuinfo flags give me ht
[16:29] <azerty> martin35
[16:29] <Lunitari71> pmratpoison: Thank you! That solution works great!
[16:29] <pmratpoison> :)
[16:31] <cottima> hello, not a user but always interested, suse has yast, and yast also works in non-gui modes.  Does ubuntu have something like it?
[16:31] <hwilde> cottima, apt-get works command line
[16:31] <Pici> !apt | cottima
[16:31] <ubotu> cottima: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[16:31] <hwilde> cottima, synaptic is the gui
[16:31] <cheatr> cottima: Ubuntu also has dpkg
[16:31] <pmratpoison> Lunitari71: Not sure if this would affect a dist-upgrade though... if hardy switch to 2.6.24 and you have a locked version...
[16:31] <giany911> guys, i have a question, is it possible to insert a short video with subtitles in presentation?
[16:31] <pmratpoison> switches*
[16:31] <cheatr> cottima: and as for a gui, ubuntu has synaptic
[16:32] <PaT_TrickS27> I am on a fresh installation of ubuntu and I think that the system is slow
[16:32] <muskie> I can't see what module I should add to the blacklist to disable just that particular piece of hardware, and not all Mice..
[16:32] <cottima> yast does more than package management though, it is for almost all admin uses
[16:32] <rmh3093_> is there a way to do a network install of ubuntu, i have a laptop with out a cdrom and it already has gentoo running on it
[16:32] <rmh3093_> how would i install ubuntu on its extra partition
[16:32] <cheatr> cottima: Ubuntu splits up the administration tasks. You can find them under System->Administration
[16:32] <dooglus> what's the name of the libglib2.0 package with debug symbols in it?
[16:32] <Pici> !installl > rmh3093_ (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[16:33] <allobjects> randorfer: :-( visudo barfs at that syntax ... maybe I did something wrong in context of vi
[16:33] <cottima> cheatr like redhat?
[16:33] <Pici> cottima: There is no 'all in one' administration tool for Ubuntu like yast.
[16:33] <dooglus> the gtk one is libgtk2.0-0-dbg - what's the equivalent for glib?
[16:33] <randorfer> allobjects:  you dont have to use visudo to edit it you can use anything
[16:33] <dooglus> !info libgtk2.0-0-dbg
[16:33] <ubotu> libgtk2.0-0-dbg: The GTK+ libraries and debugging symbols. In component main, is extra. Version 2.12.0-1ubuntu3 (gutsy), package size 8602 kB, installed size 21472 kB
[16:33] <PaT_TrickS27> does anyone have a good thread for optimize the responsiveness of ubuntu
[16:33] <dooglus> !info libglib2.0
[16:33] <ubotu> Package libglib2.0 does not exist in gutsy
[16:33] <cottima> okay, thank you everyone! one other question.
[16:33] <randorfer> allobjects:  but I just realized that I messed up
[16:34] <dooglus> !info libglib2.0-dev
[16:34] <ubotu> libglib2.0-dev: Development files for the GLib library. In component main, is optional. Version 2.14.1-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 619 kB, installed size 2328 kB
[16:34] <cheatr> Pici: Actually, now that you mention it, they had tried out an all in one admin app prior to gutsy. Do you know what happened to it?
[16:34] <luca> #ubuntu-it
[16:34] <ljsmithx> Hey guys!
[16:34] <dooglus> !info libglib2.0-dbg
[16:34] <ubotu> Package libglib2.0-dbg does not exist in gutsy
[16:34] <Pici> !msgthebot | dooglus
[16:34] <ubotu> dooglus: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[16:34] <ljsmithx> I just realised something!!
[16:34] <JC_Denton_> Is it possible to install ubuntu from one hd onto another without a floppy or cd drive?
[16:34] <dooglus> !msgthebot info libglib2.0-dbg
[16:34] <randorfer> allobjects: %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL NOPASSWD:ALL should be %admin ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[16:34] <ljsmithx> After switching to ubuntu, I havn't looked at a single porn site@!!! :DDDDDDDDD
[16:34] <pmratpoison> cottime: imo, yast is kinda bloated, have you considered that more but minimalistic config programs are better, performace-wise?
[16:34] <Pici> dooglus: Please /msg ubotu info libglib2.0-dbg
[16:34] <allobjects> randorfer: its comment says so and I tried 'sudo gedit' and it only gave it to me in read only
[16:34] <dooglus> !/msg ubotu info libglib2.0-dbg
[16:34] <Pici> ljsmithx: Thats nice, but this is a support channel.
[16:35] <Pici> dooglus: no !
[16:35] <Pici> dooglus: er, no ! in the front. ;)
[16:35] <dooglus> ok
[16:35] <allobjects> randorfer: extra space ?
[16:35] <pmratpoison> even though ubuntu is not the performance champ, I find it better than opensuse
[16:35] <cheatr> allobjects: Don't do sudo gedit. Use gksudo gedit instead
[16:35] <Pici> allobjects: use gksudo not sudo.
[16:35] <PaT_TrickS27> does anyone have a good thread for optimize the responsiveness of ubuntu, thanks a lot
[16:35] <randorfer> allobjects:  no, remove the extra ALL after (ALL)
[16:35] <cottima> ever since I ubuntu came out I have heard of incompatibility (with debian packages/users), I know that there is sudo and no root user.  What other differences are there compared to most linux distros (such as configuration files)?
[16:36] <dooglus> Pici: maybe I need to build it for myself - it seems there's no package in the repository for it
[16:36] <pmratpoison> PaT_TrickS27: try making a custom kernel if you are feeling confident enough...
[16:36] <allobjects> cheatr: Pici will do, thanks
[16:36] <puppt> dooglus, try libglib2.0-0-dbg ?
[16:36] <Stormx2> I have a sort of interesting question. Is it possible to start another X screen on another tty automatically when ubuntu boots?
[16:36] <dooglus> puppt: I did
[16:36] <cottima> does it depend on the software?
[16:36] <randorfer> cottima:  buntu still has root, every distro has root, it just encourages the use of sudo instead of working exclusively as root
[16:36] <Pici> PaT_TrickS27: Why do you think it is unreponsive?
[16:36] <powergoal2> Stormx2: I dont think you can run two xservers simultaneously
[16:36] <Yv12345vY> Stormx2, you can only have one X running
[16:37] <dooglus> puppt: oh, I didn't?  I'm confused
[16:37] <Stormx2> Really?
 firefox need about 10 seconde to open
[16:37] <Pici> cottima: Ubuntu is based off debian.
[16:37] <Stormx2> Cause I've done it before I think, lemme check
[16:37] <cheatr> cottima: The main difference among the distros is the type of package they use (rpm, deb, etc) and whether they use Gnome, KDE, or something else
[16:37] <powergoal2> Stormx2: if you've done it, i would be interested in hearing how. :)
[16:37] <scguy318> Stormx2: you can have more than one X server running
[16:37] <Stormx2> powergoal2, just did it. Go to another tty and do startx -- :1
[16:38] <pmratpoison> cottima: I'm under the impression that you can activate the root account, but I would personally advise against it
[16:38] <dooglus> puppt: thanks a lot - that's what I needed
when starting the user session there is some lag
[16:38] <puppt> dooglus, np
[16:38] <Pici> !sudo | cottima
[16:38] <ubotu> cottima: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[16:38] <pmratpoison> but this is a matter of preference and experience, which I lack
[16:38] <dooglus> pmratpoison: a simple "sudo passwd" will set the root password
[16:38] <Pici> PaT_TrickS27: Is your system currently indexing files? You can modify that under System>Preferences>Search (I think, I dont have a gui in front of me), plus there are many tweaking guides online, see google.
[16:38] <Pici> !noroot | dooglus pmratpoison
[16:38] <ubotu> dooglus pmratpoison: We don't support a root password so don't suggest one unless you are going to be here 24/7 to help someone who has problems as a result of having one, many thanks ;-)
[16:38] <powergoal2> Stormx2: hm.  cool.  haha
[16:38] <Yv12345vY> PaT_TrickS27, what kind of a machine is it?  How much ram?  Is the hard drive spinning constantly?
[16:38] <ArrPirate> I have a slight problem
[16:38] <qolo> I need a mail client that has Exchange support, can anyone recommend something ??
[16:39] <allobjects> cheatr: however it still gives me the file in read only
[16:39] <Yv12345vY> qolo, Evolution
[16:39] <cottima> so the main difference of ubuntu is a millionaire backer, prefers sudo, and pushes for gui friendliness?
[16:39] <pmratpoison> Pici: That's why I said that I advise AGAINST it :)
[16:39] <cheatr> allobjects: What is the path of the file?
[16:39] <ArrPirate> the flash-nonfree plugin is installed but firefox doesn't detect that it is installed. What can I do?
AMD3800x2 with 1Go dual DDR 160 Go HD SATA2
[16:39] <cheatr> allobjects: Also, what are the permissions of the file (use ls -l)
[16:39] <Pici> !flashissues | ArrPirate
[16:39] <ubotu> ArrPirate: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[16:39] <ArrPirate> thanks
[16:40] <Pici> cottima: Sounds good to me, plus the desktop version aims to be user friendly.
[16:40] <Yv12345vY> PaT_TrickS27, but the HDD isn't constantly spinning and the CPU isn't constantly maxed out?
[16:40] <Pici> !ubuntu | cottima also see these links
[16:40] <ubotu> cottima also see these links: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
nope
[16:40] <Pici> cottima: er, thought there was moer info there, nevermind ;)
[16:40] <dwxreaper> what's the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu server
[16:41] <Stormx2> One is intended for desktop, one for server?
[16:41] <powergoal2> dwxreaper: what you intend to do for it
[16:41] <cheatr> dwxreaper: ubuntu has a gui, server is only from the terminal
[16:41] <randorfer> dwxreaper:  the default intsalled packages
[16:41] <allobjects> cheatr: /etc/sudoers
[16:41] <Pici> !server | dwxreaper
[16:41] <ubotu> dwxreaper: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[16:41]  * Pici hugs ubotu
[16:41] <cottima> pici one more q: if use ubuntu, I know debian a little better?
[16:41] <WorkingOnWise> when I launch Amarok, I get the error "Could not enter folder /." and when it begins the wizard to set up my music collection, it displays / and nothing in it. I went into Nautilus and I cant see anything in / either. It sounds like a permissions problem to me. What permissiond should I have to /?
[16:41] <powergoal2> haha
[16:41] <Yv12345vY> PaT_TrickS27, I only ask b/c my personal laptop was having a hard time with Ubuntu until I limited it's memory at boot, just added mem=512M to the end of the boot command and it helped a lot
[16:41] <Pici> cottima: Definitly.
[16:41] <PriceChild> Anyone around with experience of synergy? I don't have a keyboard for the machine I want to run as the synergy server and I'm having trouble getting the thing started.
[16:41] <dwxreaper> what's the differences in the kernel between server and normal ubuntu
[16:42] <PriceChild> dwxreaper, nothing
[16:42] <cheatr> allobjects: Try this: http://www.unixtutorial.org/2007/12/visudo-tutorial/
i do it in menu.lst file and update grub ?
[16:42] <dwxreaper> pricechild !server | ubuntu
[16:42] <dwxreaper> !server | ubuntu
[16:42] <ubotu> ubuntu: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[16:42] <pmratpoison> WorkingOnWise: Have you considered the possibility that you have set a library folder for which you don't have the proper rw permissions?
[16:42] <PriceChild> dwxreaper, there is no difference in kernel
[16:42] <allobjects> cheatr: -r--r----- 1 root root 505 2008-01-05 02:41 /etc/sudoers
[16:42] <Yv12345vY> PaT_TrickS27, to test it out I'd do it at boot time in Grub, just press e to edit the command
[16:42] <cottima> Thank you everyone sorry for the minor headache.  I am wanting to be a linux admin and wanting not to have manage many different distros for what I need.  Thank you!
[16:42] <dwxreaper> ok cool
[16:43] <isaacj87> does moblock effect iptables in any negative ways? does it make it weaker?
[16:43] <Yv12345vY> PaT_TrickS27, or add it to menu.lst and it if doesn't help just remove it
[16:43] <cottima> Thank you Pici
[16:43] <dwxreaper> pricechild: so it's the same thing really with less apps and files
[16:43] <RioCunliffe> Ħełþ
[16:43] <cheatr> allobjects: I didn't realize it was the sudoers file when I asked for the permissions. Just read the guide I posted (http://www.unixtutorial.org/2007/12/visudo-tutorial/). You should use visudo to edit it
does i put mem=1024 if i have 1Go of RAM
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[16:43] <cheatr> !visudo | allobjects
[16:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about visudo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:43] <Yv12345vY> PaT_TrickS27, for me I cut the memory down to 512 or 768, for whatever reason 1GB never worked well, so try 512M at first
thanks !
[16:45] <dwxreaper> Ubuntu server install by default a server optimized kernel. See above for details on available kernels.
[16:45] <rich__> ikoniaL something interesting, the disk shows in the places column in nautilus. it also says when you click on it device /dev/sdc1 or /media/disk busy
[16:47] <cheatr> allobjects: Did visudo work for you?
[16:47] <dwxreaper> but from what I read there really is no relevant differences in the kernel for ubuntu server, and ubuntu
[16:47] <dwxreaper> less drivers loaded, maybe a extremely slight optimization
[16:48] <powergoal2> dwxreaper: from what i know, they are pretty much the same thing.
[16:48] <powergoal2> dwxreaper: perhaps its lacks the ability to do Direct Rendering or things that sort that are graphics intensive, being intended for serving instead of desktop.
[16:49] <allobjects> cheatr: thanks for the visudo link.
[16:49] <allobjects> randorfer: ok, sudoers updated ... ccould you please step me through adding the nework restart to all sessions ?
[16:49] <WorkingOnWise> pmratpoison: I havent set any folder yet. The first time I started Amarok this problem started.
[16:49] <cheatr> allobjects: No problem.
[16:49] <allobjects> cheatr: yes visudo worked fine thanks
[16:50] <pmratpoison_> WorkingOnWise: I just came back from accidental log out.  I can't think of why you would be facing this problem, if this is the case... sorry
[16:50] <Nostahl> how do i run a .bin file
[16:51] <quaal> what does this mean "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: Permission denied" I get it whenever i open a kde application (k9copy, konqueror, k3b) I'm running gnome
[16:51] <Pici> Nostahl: What file?
[16:51] <Nostahl> its a linux game im downloading and it comes in a .bin
[16:51] <WorkingOnWise> what permissions shold I have to /?
[16:52] <Pici> Nostahl: First, make sure that its not in the repositories, if its not: chmod +x file.bin; bash file.bin
[16:54] <dundel> isit possible to remove the login message when you login as root? because i can't find it
[16:54] <WorkingOnWise> quaal: afaik, it is because Gnome does not start the kio-slave service. It is simular in function to Gnomes dbus. In my experience, the kde apps that throw this error still work fine in Gnome.
[16:54] <JC_Denton_> trying to upgrade a installation and getting Failed to fetch http://wine.lowvoice.nl/apt/dists/edgy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[16:54] <Nostahl> pici it says cannot exicute binary file
[16:55] <Pici> Nostahl: Try just:  ./file.bin
[16:55] <ochbad> Hoping someone knows and this will be a quick and easy answer: does anyone know why Print Screen launched RhymBox (in addition to bringing up the save as png dialog)? Pretty basic installation of 7.10 here. I've looked on google but been unable to find anyone with the same problem, and I have no idea where this is set (and can be unset).
[16:55] <zoink_> i'm having trouble getting my recently created NFS to mount on my client  machine, any help?
[16:55] <WorkingOnWise> What permissions should I have to / ?
[16:56] <ochbad> *launches RythmBox
[16:57] <ochbad> Nevermind, figured it out
[16:58] <ochbad> It was set as the keycode.
[16:58] <WorkingOnWise> what pdf reader can read a pdf to me, besides Adobes?
[16:58] <Pici> !pdf | WorkingOnWise
[16:58] <ubotu> WorkingOnWise: pdf is the Portable Document Format created by Adobe; viewable in GNU/Linux with xpdf/kpdf/evince, and also adobe reader (free download, but closed source)
[16:59] <Clearzen> WorkingOnWise: Document viewer should work
[17:00] <WorkingOnWise> Clearzen: do u mean Evince?
[17:00] <Clearzen> WorkingOnWise: Nope, I just opened a pdf with document viewer
[17:01] <Tweek888> I've got a problem with my battery monitor displaying 0%, I have tried forcing acpi in grub
[17:01] <cronik> good morning everyone
[17:02] <WorkingOnWise> I wasn't clear on my question. Sorry. I want a pdf reader that will actually read, verbally, a pdf. Adobe's can do it, but it is broke on my system for some reason and frankly I am growing weary of Adobes sloppiness
[17:02] <Leechzilla> In nvidia-settings, I have the option "Separate X screen". I'm unable to disable this
[17:03] <Pici> WorkingOnWise: Like, out loud?
[17:03] <WorkingOnWise> Pici: yup
[17:03] <Clearzen> WorkingOnWise: Oh, I couldn't help you there. I've never had to have a pdf read verbally
[17:03] <piranha_> #Trixbo
[17:04] <piranha_> uh
[17:04] <tymonn> babla
[17:04] <tymonn> blabla
[17:04] <tymonn> blabla
[17:04] <tymonn> gas´~
[17:05] <Clearzen> for a channel with 1200 people there isn't a lot happening in here
[17:05] <bazhang> tymonn: please stop
[17:05] <Yv12345vY> it's lunch time
[17:05] <tymonn> green
i have found my problem
[17:06] <Yv12345vY> PaT_TrickS27, what is it?
nvidia driver
[17:06] <Yv12345vY> oh boooooo
[17:07] <PaT_TrickS27> but i don't know how
[17:07] <PaT_TrickS27> to repair it
[17:07] <Yv12345vY> !nvidia
[17:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
nvidia driver give me a latency
[17:07] <Tweek888> get envy
[17:07] <quaal> WorkingOnWise, i have to sudo the kde apps to get them to work
[17:07] <Yv12345vY> envy or do it by hand, it's not too bad
[17:07] <quaal> and even then its not completely normal
[17:07] <bazhang> !envy | Tweek888
[17:07] <PaT_TrickS27> !nvidia
[17:08] <Yv12345vY> !envy
[17:08] <Tweek888> I don't need to know about it.
[17:08] <quaal> WorkingOnWise, http://pastebin.ca/841382 is what happens when i sudo it
[17:08] <Tweek888> I was telling him to get it.
[17:08] <ubotu> Tweek888: envy is not needed or supported. Use the Resticted Manager to install binary drivers and see « /msg ubotu binarydriver »
[17:08] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:08] <PaT_TrickS27> my video card is onboard
[17:08] <PaT_TrickS27> chipset is 6150
[17:08] <WorkingOnWise> Has anyone installed adobe acrobat reader from the Medibuntu repos? Does it work?  When I click the menu link, I get nothing at all....as iff I never clicked it at all...
[17:10] <pike_> WorkingOnWise: id launch it from terminal and see what it says. ive only really used xpdf though
[17:11] <WorkingOnWise> quaal: what do u get if u launch it as you? It is complaining that /tmp/kde-dephtu is owned by root and it wants it to be owned by u.
[17:11] <WorkingOnWise> pike_: i'll do that.
[17:11] <PaT_TrickS27> does anyone know wich driver i need to use for an nvidia 6150 chipset (with nvidia-new i have a lag)
[17:11] <WorkingOnWise> pike_: ty
[17:12] <javb> how can i play *.BUP files in ubuntu? (DVD) ?
[17:12] <mark__3> i'm having a problem compiling a new kernel with kpkg
[17:13] <mark__3> i change the .config, but when i try to compile it says "nothing to be done"
[17:13] <mark__3> i'm quite sure .config has been changed
[17:13] <kostebek> hi everyone
[17:13] <kostebek> i m forum Türkiye :)
[17:13] <kostebek> i ve got some problems :(
[17:13] <Pici> !tr | kostebek
[17:13] <ubotu> kostebek: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[17:14] <pike_> kostebek: welcome
[17:14] <kojiro> Hi, I have an AR2413 minipci card that xubuntu 7.10 correctly ids as an Atheros device. It scans and detects my WPA2-PSK network, but when I try to connect it just fails silently.
[17:14] <kostebek> hi pike :)
[17:15] <kostebek> i have hot a problem about my ATI RADEON hd2600 graphic card :(
[17:15] <kostebek> have you got any link "howto" about iş
[17:15] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> hello
[17:15] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> can somebody help me?
[17:16] <kojiro> Kamus_H_Zwisch: with what?
[17:16] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> :d
[17:16] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> my gnome
[17:16] <pr0nGuy> How do I open a ZIP archive in Ubuntu?
[17:16] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> he take 20 years to start
[17:16] <unagi> http://media4.dropshots.com/photos/431314/20080103/b_112321.jpg can someone tell me how to find that delete icon or tell ubuntu to use a different icon?
[17:16] <triplc> hi all
[17:16] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> in dmesg have so much of this: MASQUERADE: eth0 ate my IP address
[17:16] <zoink_> i'm having trouble getting my recently created NFS to mount on my client  machine, any help?
[17:16] <kostebek> hi triplc
[17:16] <kojiro> heh
[17:17] <kojiro> everyone's asking questions, but nobody's answering.
[17:17] <kostebek> ATI drivers ? :(
[17:17] <pike_> !ati | kostebek may help
[17:17] <ubotu> kostebek may help: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[17:17] <kojiro> kostebek: open source or binary?
[17:17] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> anybody?
[17:17] <pike_> kostebek: as an alternative you can use the vesa driver of course but is just a generic driver
[17:18] <triplc> What is the startup script (per user) for Gnome? I need to add several small setting like PATH, LD_PRELOAD... but I do not want to change global settings in /etc/X11/Xsession.d. I just want to change those for one user
[17:18] <mark__3> anyone going to help me with my make-kpkg problem?
[17:18] <bazhang> Kamus_H_Zwisch: with your gnome? could you give a bit more info?
[17:18] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> bazhang:
[17:18] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> this is the only thing that appears
[17:18] <Pici> !kernel > mark__3 (Please see the private messsage from ubotu)
[17:18] <unagi> http://media4.dropshots.com/photos/431314/20080103/b_112321.jpg can someone tell me how to find that delete icon or tell ubuntu to use a different icon?
[17:18] <Pici> !enter
[17:18] <ubotu> Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[17:18] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> MASQUERADE: eth0 ate my IP address
[17:18] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> so much of that
[17:19] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> busy all the dmesg
[17:19] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> start to end
[17:19] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> just that
[17:19] <kojiro> Pici: that worked so well ;)
[17:21] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> help :(
[17:21] <kojiro> So how can I get the default network configuration application to give me more information about why it's unable to connect to my WPA2-PSK wireless network?
[17:21] <cookie> hello! what is a good and easy to use video editing program for ubuntu
[17:21] <cookie> ?
[17:21] <Clearzen> kojiro: try to connect via CLI. That should give you more info
[17:21] <Kamus_H_Zwisch> cinelerra cookie
[17:22] <kojiro> Clearzen: OK, can you point me to a faq on how to do that?
[17:22] <cookie> !cinelerra cookie
[17:22] <Clearzen> kojiro: ie sudo ifdown wlan0; sudo ifup wlan0
[17:22] <Pici> Kamus_H_Zwisch: Please dont use enter as punctuation.
[17:22] <kostebek> pike i ve come back again
[17:22] <cookie> thanks Kamus_H_Zwisch
[17:22] <zkline> I hope this is just me, but after installing Ubuntu 7.10 on my laptop, some Gnome keyboard shortcuts don't seem to work.  ctrl+alt+tab, for one, which is supposed to pop up the Gnome panel, but doesn't seem to do anything.
[17:22] <Nostahl> oh how i wish i could get anarchy online to patch beyond 17.6.1
[17:22] <kostebek> how can i install vesa driver
[17:22] <kostebek> i will not use Compiz or etc.
[17:23] <Clearzen> kojiro: Depending on the interface name for your wireless card. It's possible your card doesn't support that encryption. What type of card is it?
[17:23] <bazhang> !vesa
[17:23] <ubotu> vesa is the default video driver if X can't find a better one. Also see !x
[17:23] <pike_> kostebek: i dont have alot of experience with ati cards but to use vesa 1) alt-ctrl-f2  2) login  3) sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  4) choose vesa  5) hit enter to choose default for everything else 6) sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[17:23] <muskie> Hey again
[17:23] <Delvien> After the first install of ubuntu 7.10 restricted-modules picked up my video card and installed the card automatically, I had to reformat and the 2nd third and fourth attempt to reinstall, it now refuses to pick up my video card.
[17:23] <kostebek> okey pike i now trying
[17:24] <WorkingOnWise> i got some wierd permissions problems here. Amarok cant read / (neither can I) and Acobat Reader cant read /bin/pwd. I have to assume that permissions are messed up other places to. How do I fix this?
[17:24] <muskie> hey, more people having video card problems :P
[17:24] <Clearzen> kostebek: vesa is already installed. You just need to open the config file with gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then change the driver in the correct section.
[17:24] <kojiro> Clearzen: it's an Atheros... um, lspci says "Atheros Communications, Inc. AR2413" and then later on it says "Compex Wireless 802.11b/g MiniPCI Adapter, Rev A1 [WLM54G]"
[17:24] <muskie> Hey, only three problems with hardware, I call that a stable systme under linux ;P
[17:24] <saeed> hi all
[17:24] <Clearzen> kojiro: It should work then. Try sudo ifdown ath0; sudo ifup ath0
[17:24] <kojiro> Clearzen: as for whether or not it supports WPA2, it did work in Windows 30 minutes ago :)
[17:25] <olaff> hey all, just installed gutsy, and thunderbird... but thunderbird doesnt open.... anyone had the same issue?
[17:25] <pmratpoison> hello! I seem to have lost windows from GRUB
[17:25] <Clearzen> kojiro: Yeah, not all open source drivers are WPA2 compliant
[17:25] <Clearzen> !grub
[17:25] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[17:25] <cheatr> olaff: Launch thunderbird from a terminal and post any errors that show up
[17:25] <unagi> http://media4.dropshots.com/photos/431314/20080103/b_112321.jpg can someone tell me how to find that delete icon or tell ubuntu to use a different icon?
[17:25] <pmratpoison> Clearzen: I have the opposite problem :)
[17:25] <muskie> I have a Geforce 440 GO powered laptop. when I install NVIDIA-GLX, X-just boots to a black screen. it is still running in the backgraound cause there's audio, but no video. does anyone know what I should be modifying my Free86 to, and when?
[17:26] <muskie> *Xfree86
[17:26] <pmratpoison> Clearzen: Windows is missing on GRUB
[17:26] <olaff> cheatr: it doesnt show any errors, just brings up the bar loading thunderbird, which then dissapears
[17:26] <Clearzen> pmratpoison: When did it disappear? did it ever appear?
[17:26] <cheatr> olaff: So no text at all is printed to the terminal?
[17:26] <olaff> no
[17:27] <af_> there is a guide to build ubuntu from the sources?
[17:27] <pmratpoison> Clearzen: It dissappeared whn I tried to tweak my usplash theme
[17:27] <WorkingOnWise> !clone
[17:27] <ubotu> To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » - See also !automate
[17:27] <cheatr> olaff: And you installed tbird from the repos?
[17:27] <olaff> installed with synaptic package manager
[17:27] <pmratpoison> I'm not sure though, since I haven't booted to windows for ages, but that's the only possible time I can think of that this happened
[17:28] <olaff> im not sure its not permission related somehow
[17:28] <cheatr> olaff: Hmm, this is strange, have you tried reinstalling it?
[17:28] <Clearzen> pmratpoison: you have to reenter it in /boot/grub/menu.lst to find where on the disk windows is open /boot/grub/device.map and look there
[17:28] <olaff> cheatr: i'll try now
[17:28] <cheatr> olaff: ok
[17:28] <Clearzen> pmratpoison: Does that make sense to you?
[17:29] <WorkingOnWise> where are the repos list stored, besides sources.list?
[17:29] <kojiro> Clearzen: OK, first it gave me some copyright info on the DHCP client, then it said 'wifi0: unknown hardware address type 801' twice. Following that it told me it was listening and sending on the MAC address of the device.
[17:29] <kojiro> Then it did DHCPDISCOVER four times on <IP_ADDRESS> intervals 4, 7, 14, and 6
[17:29] <the08hulk> anyone ava to help me out
[17:29] <the08hulk> ...
[17:29] <Clearzen> kojiro: did it assign you an ip?
[17:29] <cheatr> WorkingOnWise: sources.list is where synaptic and apt look for the list of repos.
[17:30] <WorkingOnWise> cheatr: ty
[17:30] <kojiro> Clearzen: no, it finally said "No DHCPOFFERS received."
[17:30] <the08hulk> my ubuntu installed yet whe i start is shows clowdy screen
[17:30] <the08hulk> did a network restart..and when ifconfig -a only lo has address
[17:30] <Clearzen> kojiro: Just to cover all the bases, you do have the password for the wireless entered in the network manager right.
[17:30] <bazhang> kojiro: do you have two wireless devices listed in iwconfig?
[17:30] <pmratpoison> so, so, I see that I have to find which partition windows is on (/dev/sda1 mounted on /media/sda1) and then I have to properly config /.../grub/menu.lst
[17:30] <the08hulk> neither eth0 nor 1
[17:30] <kojiro> Clearzen: but I think I missed a step. I mean, even though I've tried entering my WPA2 key in the GUI network tool, don't I need to enter it somewhere on the commandline?
[17:31] <pmratpoison> Clearzen: Not sure if I can do it successfully though :)
[17:31] <WorkingOnWise> if I do "dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages" , will I be able to use that on a 64bit system if it was generateb on a 32bit system?
[17:31] <Clearzen> kojiro: no, it should be stored in /etc/network/interfaces
[17:31] <Clearzen> kojiro: what does iwconfig show you? More than a single interface?
[17:31] <pmratpoison> Clearzen: Not sure if I can do it successfully though :) Is that correct?
[17:32] <cheatr> WorkingOnWise: I don't think so. I believe that there are different packages for 64bit
[17:32] <the08hulk> fairly new to ubuntu..any help... still lost..
[17:32] <cookie> there is no way I can install cinelerra
[17:32] <cookie> it isn't in any packages
[17:32] <cookie> and I do not want it as live CD
[17:32] <Clearzen> kojiro: does iwconfig show an interface named ath0?
[17:32] <lusepuster> Hi folks - something messed up my swap settings,don't know what. I try and do a swapon -a, but it just says 'swapon: /dev/hda5: Invalid argument'
[17:32] <cookie> I just want a good and easy to use video editing program
[17:32] <kojiro> Clearzen: yes, iwconfig shows me lo, wifi0, and eth0 with no wireless extensions, and ath0 with all the wireless stuff
[17:32] <WorkingOnWise> the08hulk: what problems do u hVE?
[17:32] <CJ_> sweet
[17:33] <WorkingOnWise> have
[17:33] <rich__> does anyone know about /dev/mapper, when i add a hard a device file appears, it only does it for my WD passport disc.
[17:33] <Clearzen> try this and see if you get a ip. sudo ifdown ath0; sudo ifup ath0
[17:33] <unagi> what tells ubuntu which icon to use on a delete button
[17:33] <the08hulk> well i spoke to one of the teams from caly yesterday they told me to look up for ii's in the dpkg -l nvidia
[17:33] <cookie> could somebody help?
[17:33] <the08hulk> so i did it only shoed me the kerlnal
[17:33] <rich__> i want to create a filesystem but linux tells me the device is in use, it must be this file
[17:33] <the08hulk> not the glx-new
[17:33] <kojiro> Clearzen: OK, trying again
[17:34] <cookie> what is a good and easy to use video editing program
[17:34] <the08hulk> so he said i shoud sudo ipfup eth0
[17:34] <the08hulk> nothing
[17:34] <rich__> cookie, i am using avidemux, its the closest thing to virtualdub
[17:34] <the08hulk> so we went on to sudo networking restart
[17:34] <CJ_> does anyone know what causes the mouse to stop function on a ubuntu platform if your running it in a virtual pc_
[17:34] <Clearzen> kojiro: If that doesn't work try wep encryption and see if it will connect
[17:34] <WorkingOnWise> the08hulk: so u are wanting to get your video setup?
[17:34] <the08hulk> then ifconfig -a shows only lo has address
[17:34] <olaff> cheatr: that didnt fix it
[17:35] <the08hulk> yea i guess i mean im fairly new so im not really sure what im doing learning as i go on
[17:35] <pmratpoison> would this http://pastebin.com/m470caaa be correct? (without the comment lines, that is) and instead of hd0.0 , I using sd0,0
[17:35] <quaal> WorkingOnWise, I dont get those errors. but when i open it as non-root i cant use the file browser, i get the io-slave permissions denied error i previously mentioned
[17:35] <the08hulk> i got the update and install code
[17:35] <the08hulk> but no connection
[17:35] <Clearzen> kojiro: We are trying to find the cause of the problems, if you can connect with wep then WPA2 is not supported most likely. I'll google it a little and see if I can find a similar problem.
[17:35] <cheatr> olaff: Try running "top | grep thunderbird"
[17:35] <the08hulk> i do have it next to me tho so if u wanna thro me some codes i can try id appreciate
[17:36] <the08hulk> also ethernet attached
[17:36] <Clearzen> kojiro: Just googled it. WPA2 is not supported with atheros
[17:36] <Clearzen> kojiro: it says WPA1 is though
[17:36] <kojiro> even after all this time :/
[17:36] <cheatr> olaff: Be sure to run "thunderbird" from the terminal before running the top command
[17:36] <unagi> can anyone tell me how to change an icon for a button in ubuntu?
[17:36] <WorkingOnWise> are u on the machine with these problems?
[17:37] <the08hulk> ??..
[17:37] <WorkingOnWise> the08hulk: are u on the machine with these problems?
[17:37] <Killabeez> hi
[17:37] <olaff> cheatr: ok, giving it a go :)
[17:37] <the08hulk> oh no i have it seperatly
[17:37] <Killabeez> downloaded and burned ubuntu 7.10 iso
[17:37] <kojiro> Clearzen: OK, I'll try it with different encryptions
[17:37] <kojiro> Clearzen: thanks for the help
[17:37] <wastrel> whee
[17:37] <Clearzen> kojiro: np
[17:38] <Killabeez> when trying to install i get ' Kernel Panic- not syncing I0-APIC timer doesn't work! boot with APIC debug and send a report
[17:38] <Killabeez> '
[17:38] <WorkingOnWise> the08hulk: ok, so first u need networking up. do u have wireless or cable network, or both?
[17:38] <pmratpoison> Clearzen: would this http://pastebin.com/m470caaa be correct? (without the comment lines, that is)
[17:38] <cookie> THANK YOU
[17:39]  * g0rb3hy is looseing motivation getting his bcm430 based wireless card working in 7.10 64 =(
[17:39] <Clearzen> pmratpoison: if (hd0,0) is where your grub assigned it then that should work
[17:40] <WorkingOnWise> quaal: sorry...forgot about u...do these apps run normally in kde?
[17:40] <Killabeez> can someone help me out?
[17:40] <cottima> I am not a good linux user or programmer.  is there a tutorial for apparmor and repo for prewritten scripts?
[17:40] <garyb> Does anyone know how to install the i686 kernal or does the linux-generic take care of that
[17:40] <Clearzen> Killabeez: Will the disk boot at all? is it giving you those errors when trying to load the kernel?
[17:41] <Killabeez> yea
[17:41] <fsckr> using pidgin i have accidently blocked the wrong contact.  I have looked at the faq on the pidgin trac and the resolution for that doesn't work.  He can send me an IM, but I no longer have him in my contact list
[17:41] <fsckr> oops sorry not in the pidgin channel
[17:41] <Killabeez> on disk loadup, then i hit press enter for normal install and i get the error
[17:41] <Clearzen> Killabeez: You have to add noapic to the boot options. I think it is f6 on the install cd but I'm not 100%
[17:41] <WorkingOnWise> fsckr: wait....
[17:41] <fsckr> whats up WorkingOnWise
[17:41] <Killabeez> what is the error trying to tell me, clearzen.
[17:41] <olaff> doesnt seem to be finding anything there cheatr:
[17:42] <garyb> Does anyone know how to install the i686 kernal or does the linux-generic take care of that
[17:42] <pmratpoison> Clearzen I think that's where it's at... my device.map , maps (hd0) as /dev/sda and the windows partition is in /dev/sda1
[17:42] <WorkingOnWise> fsckr: yer ok cuz pidgin is an ubuntu package...
[17:42] <Clearzen> Killabeez: it is telling you that your system doesn't support apic
[17:42] <Killabeez> should i be using the i386 iso for a amd dual core?
[17:42] <fsckr> well I posted in #pidgin as well hehe
[17:42] <cheatr> olaff: Hmm. I'm stumped. The only other advice I have is to remove thunderbird and download it from mozilla's website. This won't provide you with updates, but should allow you to get it running.
[17:43] <WorkingOnWise> fsckr: have that person im u, and with the im open, right click their name in the upper left, and choose unblock
[17:43] <Clearzen> Killabeez: Yeah the generic kernel supports dual cores
[17:43] <garyb> does it support i686
[17:43] <garyb> or do i need special drivers
[17:43] <olaff> hmm ok thanks cheatr:
[17:43] <fsckr> ok ill give that a try when he gets home
[17:43] <Killabeez> clearzen: what is APIC?
[17:43] <fsckr> thx WorkingOnWise
[17:43] <garyb> someone hook my up i swear i am going to go straight back to openSuSE
[17:44] <WorkingOnWise> fsckr: yw
[17:44] <Clearzen> pmratpoison: If you run find /boot/stage1 from grub what does it give you?
[17:44] <cheatr> olaff: Sorry I couldn't be more help.
[17:44] <WorkingOnWise> fsckr: if it dont work, come back and someone will try again.
[17:44] <filo86> How to make conky starting automatically after log in (fluxbox wm)?
[17:44] <Stormx2> I have a sort of interesting question. Is it possible to start another X screen on another tty automatically when ubuntu boots? I know I can start another x session with startx -- :1... I want to do this automatically and without starting any unnecessary stuff, as i'll be dedicating the :1 to VNC
[17:45] <olaff> thanks for the effort anyway cheatr: much appreciated
[17:45] <Clearzen> Killabeez: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Programmable_Interrupt_Controller
[17:45] <orionjoe> hi, noob here. any one care to help me? :D
[17:45] <cheatr> olaff: You're welcome
[17:45] <kinroad> filo86: edit ~/.fluxbox/startup
[17:45] <pmratpoison> Clearzen: what do you mean "from grub" ?
[17:45] <WorkingOnWise> the08hulk: I pm'd u. do u see it?
[17:45] <garyb> exit
[17:45] <the08hulk> yep
[17:45] <Clearzen> Stormx2: That is interesting. I don't know how to do that, but when you find out you should tell me.
[17:46] <WorkingOnWise> is java fixed in 64bit yet? the plugin I mean...
[17:46] <Gunner_Sr> Can I use G4L on 7.10 from a 400GB drive to a 1TB drive?
[17:46] <WorkingOnWise> the08hulk: lets talk there.
[17:46] <orionjoe> i'm having trouble loading flash 9 for firefox...
[17:46] <seenu> how can v get a java runtime plugin for browser in debian ?
[17:47] <pmratpoison> WorkingOnWise: it works via IcedTea, which is open :) But I think you have to search the ubuntuforums, I think I have added sth to the repos, I don't remember what. lemme check my sources.list
[17:47] <Clearzen> pmratpoison: type sudo grub and it will take you into a different shell with different commands basically
[17:47] <bolba> hello, how do I get mplayer working in Opera?
[17:48] <WorkingOnWise> pmratpoison: if java plugins work, I'll go back to 64bit. I have had nothing but wierd problem after wierder problem with 32 bit all freakin week
[17:48] <oliver_g_> hey
[17:48] <eBryon> #list
[17:48] <oliver_g_> do you know how to configure totem-xine?
[17:49] <Clearzen> pmratpoison: find /boot/grub/stage1  <--that is the command
[17:49] <oliver_g_> i want to set a different video driver in totem-xine but there are no advanced settings at all :-(
[17:49] <Clearzen> pmratpoison: it looks like (hd0,0) is most likely correct though
[17:49] <WorkingOnWise> pmratpoison: are u on 64bit?
[17:50] <pmratpoison> WorkingOnWise: it's working on my PC, lemme pastebin you my sources.list so that you have the repo in question. I don't remember anything about the GPG key, though, but you should search the forums for answers (I am on 64bit)
[17:50] <e-head_> hey. I'm way out of date.
[17:50] <orionjoe> #ubuntuforums
[17:50] <the08hulk> u get my pm?
[17:51] <WorkingOnWise> pmratpoison: great. I was gonna ask u to do that :)
[17:51] <pmratpoison> Clearzen: said command output (hd0,6)
[17:51] <WorkingOnWise> the08hulk: me? nope....
[17:51] <the08hulk> hhmm wired whe u write to me it shoes in the public server not private
[17:52] <the08hulk> altho u wrote hello it came out
[17:52] <WorkingOnWise> the08hulk: are u registered?
[17:52] <e-head_> Hey, can apt re-configure packages for you? I forget what tool you use for this?  dpkg-reconfigure ?
[17:52] <the08hulk><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:52] <e-head_> I need to reconfigure exim4
[17:52] <Clearzen> if you do root (hd0,6)   then   setup (hd0) and finally   quit. that should automatically add windows to your grub menu
[17:52] <__machine> i just installed libapache2-pmod-php5 on ubuntu gutsy... it works in safari but firefox wants to download the php file instead of displaying it..? the saved file has the raw source...
[17:53] <WorkingOnWise> the08hulk: I have sent 3 pm's to u and dont see any from u....
[17:53] <the08hulk> hhmm how would i chek this out..
[17:53] <WorkingOnWise> the08hulk: go to #ubuntu-offtopic with me, k?
[17:53] <the08hulk> i know i put in a passwork n all, email verificatoin..
[17:53] <oliver_g_> never mind, found the totem-xine config file at .gnome2/Totem/xine_config
[17:53] <the08hulk> yep
[17:53] <javb> guys, have a lot of problems with flash and firefox, install ubuntufox, and falsh didnt work, had to install flash-nonfree plugin and gnflash... but there are a lot of errors, example: youtube buttoms out of place, mmm, some animations arent visiable.. any ideas?
[17:53] <pmratpoison> <WorkingOnWise: http://pastebin.com/m1842cbc4 Beware, I have the backports and proposed repos enabled (I think). I also have medibuntu, so if it's illegal for you to install w64codecs, you shouldn't :p
[17:54] <RenaN-rox> ;)
[17:54] <WorkingOnWise> pmratpoison: ty vm! As to the legality...I invite them to sue me for doing on linux what i can do on windows on the same laptop :D
[17:54] <the08hulk> hey wow sory man how do i get there..?
[17:55] <the08hulk> nervermind
[17:55] <the08hulk> looking for it
[17:56] <Clearzen> WorkingOnWise: Is it only a civil suit? I always thought it was a criminal case for some reason.
[17:56] <kane77> is there any program that could make compressed folders? (that would seem like normal folders to programs but would be archives really)
[17:57] <javb> guys, have a lot of problems with flash and firefox, install ubuntufox, and falsh didnt work, had to install flash-nonfree plugin and gnflash... but there are a lot of errors, example: youtube buttoms out of place, mmm, some animations arent visiable.. any ideas?
[17:57] <Clearzen> kane77: you could always change the extension. Most programs just look at that
[17:57] <pmratpoison> WorkingOnWise: I would personally hunt down what they call "piracy" to the ends of the earth. The only way for windows to die is If can't be obtained at no cost, through piracy or OEM
[17:57] <kane77> Clearzen, is it really that easy?
[17:58] <Clearzen> kane77: Yeah, pretty much. I don't know about making it look like a folder, but you could make it look like another file type.
[17:58] <pastor> can someone help me to get Youtube working on firefox? I'm using the latest Ububtu?
[17:58] <Ruge-> hello to everybody
[17:59] <pmratpoison> pastor > !flashissues
[17:59] <Clearzen> kane77: linux doesn't care about extensions. But the GUI frontend does
[17:59] <Tyczek> I have lock screen at "context key" I want to disable it, but it's not in shortcuts?
[17:59] <pmratpoison> pastor: sorry, wait just a sec
[17:59] <kane77> Clearzen, hmm.. well I want to compress the irc logs.. they are getting kind of big lately :) they are stored in a folder and it'd be cool if I could gzip it (while still only append to it instead of creating new logs...)
[17:59] <geoff_> anyone know if i can take my scripts from mIRC on windows and just add them to the ~/.xchat2 directory and they'll just work?
[17:59] <pastor> pmratpoison, what do I do with that. Excuse my ignorance.
[18:00] <pastor> k
[18:00] <e-head_> anyone still running breezy?
[18:00] <e-head_> how out of date is it?
[18:00] <Pici> !breezy | e-head_
[18:00] <ubotu> e-head_: Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) was the third release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 13, 2007. See !eol for more details.
[18:00] <e-head_> !eol
[18:00] <ubotu> End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/LifeCycle
[18:00] <Clearzen> kane77: hmmm, I haven't tried that before. gzip may have built in commands to append to a archive. I know in bash it is >> to append to a item. I don't know if that will work though.
[18:00] <Pici> e-head_: It is no longer supported
[18:01] <e-head_> i can tell.
[18:01] <e-head_> i tried to apt-get install something and the sources.list file is defunct now.
[18:01] <e-head_> Pici: so, what do I do?
[18:01] <e-head_> Can I add the new sources and apt-get upgrade?
[18:01] <e-head_> Or is it harder than that?
[18:01] <wols> e-head_: you upgraed to dapper
[18:02] <Pici> e-head_: You can upgrade to dapper.
[18:02] <Pici> !upgrade | e-head_
[18:02] <ubotu> e-head_: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[18:02] <e-head_> lsb_release -a
[18:03] <e-head_> whoops
[18:03] <pmratpoison> !flashplayer
[18:03] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[18:03] <Pici> !flashissues
[18:03] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[18:03] <justin__> hi
[18:04] <justin__> i need a program to play dvd's i tried a lot but couldnt find anything
[18:04] <Pici> !dvd | justin__
[18:04] <ubotu> justin__: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[18:05] <pmratpoison> pastor | flashissues
[18:05] <pmratpoison> pastor | !flashissues
[18:05] <pmratpoison> !flashissues | pastor
[18:05] <ubotu> pastor: The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[18:05] <e-head_> alright. here goes.
[18:05] <pmratpoison> FINALLY
[18:05] <jimcooncat> e-head_: I just upgraded my gf laptop from breezy to gutsy. Worked well because I had her /home in a separate partition; did full install and told it not to overwrite /home. Worked real slick.
[18:06] <Delvien> Setting up a laptop for a buddy, are there any repos i need to add for media ? its been a long time since ive had to install ubuntu again :P
[18:06] <e-head_> jimcooncat: I'm going to just try "apt-get update" and see what happens.
[18:06] <pmratpoison> pastor: that's what fixed it for me
[18:07] <pastor> Where do I type that pmrarposion?
[18:07] <pryan75> how do I run makefile.pl?
[18:07] <e-head_> It's worked for a couple of updates. It always somewhat amazes me.
[18:07] <filo86> I cant get into my directory via net from windows - user/passwd window appears
[18:07] <pastor> pmratpoison, where do I type that?
[18:08] <pmratpoison> pastor: where do you type what? the instructions on the forum page?
[18:08] <pastor> ok, thanks
[18:08] <e-head_> There is goes!  I'll check back in a couple of hours and see if my system is still alive, hee hee.
[18:09] <kiki7> how can i change the server pls?
[18:09] <kiki7> what have i to type in?
[18:09] <Pici> kiki7: What server?
[18:09] <e-head_> what's really crazy is it can do all this while everything is running. Including my irc client.
[18:09] <e-head_> I guess the old binaries/libraries get swapped out of memeory after a reboot.
[18:09] <kiki7> lol i want to go to the dieban server right now, because i ve a great problem and unfortunately i klicked ubuntu ^
[18:10] <x-X-x> anyone here play ut2004 and care to help me ? i cant seem to be able to run the game, ive installed it but i cant run it this is what i get: $ ut2004
[18:10] <x-X-x> Can't find 'ini:Engine.Engine.GameEngine' in configuration file
[18:10] <x-X-x> History:
[18:10] <x-X-x> Exiting due to error
[18:10] <Pici> kiki7: just type /j #debian
[18:10] <Pici> kiki7: we are on the same server.
[18:11] <kiki7> aah ok thank you Pici I know, but I think the majority of ubuntu users dont know how to use debian thats why i want to get my support by them :)
[18:11] <g0rb3hy> How do I stop ndiswrapper -m reporting module configuration already contains an alias direcitve? (ive loaded a new driver)
[18:12] <lusepuster> Hi, trying again - how do I get my swap partition to be recognized by the system? I can't even do a manual "swapon -a" now, it says it's an invalid argument...
[18:12] <BlkGhost> is there any really good desktop enhancements like compiz that I can get cause I cannot get compiz to work for the life of me... ?????????//
[18:12] <kiki7> I dont want to seem arrogate, lol I just wanted you to explain why I searched the debian server Pici :)
[18:12] <DivineSpectrum> #ubuntu-it
[18:13] <pmratpoison> BlkGhost: what have you tried so far?
[18:13] <donkdon1> correct me if i am wrong but it appears that 7.10 desktop does not come with a firewall enabled? or at least there are no rules in iptables?
[18:13] <BlkGhost> ummm nothing... Just been trying to get compiz working
[18:14] <pmratpoison> nvidia or ati?
[18:14] <BlkGhost> I'm still waiting for E17 to come out before I try that
[18:14] <BlkGhost> Nvidia 6800
[18:14] <pmratpoison> I can't really help you then, I use ati
[18:14] <nightangel> hello ! I have a problem with Mac-On-Linux about an impossible access to a folder (directory) i create using Nautilus as root. can someone help me please ?
[18:15] <BlkGhost> but can you reccommend any other programs ?
[18:15] <wols> nightangel: cheange the permissions of that folder
[18:15] <wols> !permissions
[18:15] <ubotu> An explanation of how files and directories are organized on Ubuntu, and how they can be manipulated, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxFilesystemTreeOverview
[18:15] <pmratpoison> BlkGhost: Not that I know of
[18:15] <uasc> hi guys
[18:15] <wols> BlkGhost: have you installed the restricted drievrs for your videocard?
[18:15] <neverblue> good jabber server to use ?
[18:16] <nightangel> wols : i tried to modified the permissions from read-only to read-write, but nothing works anymore
[18:16] <BlkGhost> yeah
[18:16] <uasc> can somoeone help me with installing kde4 on a fresh copy of ubuntu 7.10?
[18:16] <BlkGhost> still doesn't wprk
[18:16] <wols> nightangel: ls -l /path/to/folder
[18:16] <Pici> donkdon1: No, there are no rules by defeault, but iptables is installed.  There is also nothing listening on anything so a firewall really isnt needed.
[18:16] <uasc> i installed the proper sources line but I don't get "KDE 4" in the login screen as an option
[18:16] <wols> BlkGhost: dpkg -l |grep nvidia
[18:16] <Oli``> uasc: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[18:16] <wols> uasc: have you actually installed kde4? with what command?
[18:17] <uasc> oli, will try thanks!
[18:17] <Oli``> uasc: oh kde4...
[18:17] <nightangel> wols : ok, i am trying what you said :)
[18:17] <donkdon1> Pici: thankls
[18:17] <wols> uasc: won't wokr. he didn't read about the "4"
[18:17] <Oli``> uasc: that will install kde3
[18:17] <uasc> I installed KDE4 as per these instructions: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[18:17] <wols> uasc: dpkg -l |grep  http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-rc2.php
[18:18] <wols> uasc: dpkg -l | kdebase-kde4
[18:18] <wols> grah!
[18:18] <uasc> I used synaptic sources manager under "3rd party" tab and used synaptic to check the boxes to the right packages
[18:18] <wols> uasc: dpkg -l | grep kdebase-kde4
[18:18] <justin__> i installed everything it told me to do in the ubuntu dvd playback manual
[18:18] <justin__> it still wont play dvds
[18:18] <justin__> wat do i try now
[18:18] <J-_> !dvd
[18:19] <clemyeats> justin__: you've got libdvdread and libdvdcss installed?
[18:19] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[18:19] <anderswc> where can I change the default boot os for my dual boot pc?
[18:19] <ng0n> kojiro: you and me both.
[18:19] <wols> anderswc: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[18:19] <uasc> i'm in ubuntu but I am looking in "applications" menu and can't find an xterm
[18:19] <uasc> is it under a diff list?
[18:19] <wols> uasc: gnome terminal?
[18:19] <nightangel> wols : it doesn't work. it makes me an error message : direct link is not allowed for a directory
[18:20] <uasc> ok there is a terminal in the accessories submenu... didn't realize it would be buried that deeply
[18:20] <uasc> dpkg -l | kdebase-kde4
[18:20] <uasc> dpkg -l | kdebase-kde4
[18:20] <uasc> command not found
[18:20] <Boris> hi
[18:21] <uasc>  kdebase-kde4: command not found
[18:21] <justin__> libdvdcss??? it didnt tell me to install that
[18:21] <wols> uasc: dpkg -l |grep kdebase-kde4
[18:21] <Boris> does anyone know whether 7 GB DVDs exist ???
[18:21] <clemyeats> uasc: sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal to get the terminal on the nautilus context menu.
[18:21] <wols> Boris: they do
[18:21] <justin__> and on the terminal command it said command not found
[18:21] <wols> Boris: there are 9GB DVDs
[18:21] <uasc> ii  kdebase-kde4                               4:3.96.0-1ubuntu1~ppa1            base components from the official KDE releas
[18:21] <Boris> really ???
[18:21] <Boris> never heard of em
[18:21] <Boris> gonna tell dad to buy em
[18:21] <wols> Boris: dvds always were specified at 9GB and most movie dvds are 9GB
[18:21] <uasc> I have installed all 3 packages it listed in that tutorial on the website
[18:22] <wols> Boris: a DVD is NOT a DVD-R
[18:22] <justin__> where do i find libdvdcss???
[18:22] <luca> hello everybody is there anybody who can help me to lanch compiz
[18:22] <clemyeats> justin__: in medibuntu I guess.
[18:22] <Symmetria> hrm, anyone know how to speed up rm, I cannot fathom why rm'ing large files takes so long
[18:22] <Boris> wols : i know that
[18:22] <wols> justin__: you've been told about it by ubotue already
[18:22] <Fishscene> DVD's are by defenition "Dual layer". DVD-R's are unfortunately, only 1 layer
[18:22] <nightangel> Boris : i heard that DVD with 8,5 Go exists, but i don't know if they got 2 faces or only 1
[18:22] <Boris> luca : open terminal and type "compiz --replace"
[18:22] <luca> if i write compiz --replace
[18:22] <luca> boris this is the output
[18:22] <|Dreams|> can someone tell me how i would make a link to a folder on kde that will be on my taskbar where show desktop and the k menu button is please
[18:23] <justin__> where is mediabuntu
[18:23] <wols> nightangel: those are NOT DVDs but DVD-Rs
[18:23] <Fishscene> Nightangel, it depends on whether the company is duping you are not
[18:23] <Pici> !medibuntu | justin__
[18:23] <ubotu> justin__: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[18:23] <luca> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[18:23] <luca> No whitelisted driver found
[18:23] <luca> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[18:23] <wols> luca: what driver do you use?
[18:23] <Boris> luca : do you have fglrx driver ?
[18:23] <nightangel> ok
[18:23] <neverblue> when I do a aptitude search, what do the 'letters' mean, i == installed, etc....
[18:23] <luca> the restricted driver
[18:23] <neverblue> i dont see it in man aptitude
[18:23] <s26hax> irc.2600.net
[18:23] <Pici> neverblue: There are headers at the top of the list that show what they mean
[18:24] <uasc> what does this mean?
[18:24] <uasc> To avoid having to start a second X server for a full session install xserver-xephyr and run Xephyr :1 & export DISPLAY=:1; xterm and run startkde in the Xerphyr xterm.
[18:24] <clemyeats> neverblue: v=virtual, p=not installed.
[18:24]  * MTeck has left
[18:24] <neverblue> Pici negative
[18:24] <s26hax> join #irc.2600.net
[18:24] <Symmetria> heh a DVD+R and a DVD-R are 4.5gig basically, the 8.5gig disks are also not normal dvd disks, they are dvd DUAL LAYER disks
[18:24] <Boris> luca : you have to tell compiz that fglrx driver provides 3d effects as well. wait, ill give you instructions
[18:24] <Symmetria> and those dual layer disks are still insanely expensive
[18:24] <Pici> neverblue: Perhaps I was thinking dpkg -l
[18:24] <luca> ok thx
[18:24] <neverblue> clemyeats, I was more so looking for a listing of what all are, not just the top 3 :)
[18:24] <uasc> do you think having compiz installed on ubuntu will effect my KDE4 install?
[18:24] <luca> i use ati restricted driver
[18:24] <wols> luca: then install xserver-xgl
[18:25] <Fishscene> DVD movies are Dual layer- just like Dual layer DVD's on the market
[18:25] <wols> !xgl | luca
[18:25] <ubotu> luca: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - help in #compiz-fusion
[18:25] <clemyeats> neverblue: I never found one... you kind of guess after a while :)
[18:25] <Fishscene> Dual layer DVD-R's
[18:25] <Boris> luca : http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Gutsy_Installation_Guide#3D_desktop_effects
[18:25] <nightangel> wols : the directory is still unreachable
[18:25] <freepenguin> hello men
[18:25] <wols> nightangel: I asked you something
[18:25] <neverblue> clemyeats, well, there is one :)
[18:25] <Boris> luca : use the "3D desktop effects"
[18:25] <Symmetria> Fishscene *nod*
[18:25] <clemyeats> neverblue: did you find it?
[18:26] <Fishscene> For Compiz, are there known issues with ATI graphics cards?
[18:26] <neverblue> clemyeats, no, but obviously there is documentation on it
[18:26] <SpComb> I just installed 7.10 on a machine with a 7800 GT, I have the nvidia binary drivers installed, and my dual displays configured with Xinerama. When I try and enable desktop effects, it just tells me "Desktop effects could not be enabled", I'm not sure how to dig up more info on why, but when I try and run coompiz on the command line, it ends up segfaulting, but it does say something about missing xgl: http://pb.paivola.fi/423
[18:26] <luca> ok boris i follow the instruction.... do they works also on ati drivers?
[18:26] <Boris> SpComb, if you got AIGLX you dont need XGL
[18:26] <Boris> luca : you mean fglrx or radeon ?
[18:27] <nightangel> wols : it doesn't works. it makes me an error message : direct link is not allowed for a directory
[18:27] <Boris> luca : they work on fglrx (driver in restricted manager)
[18:27] <wols> anderswc: what was the command?
[18:27] <luca> it's a mobility radeon x700
[18:27] <shadowxp> Where are the settings for Compiz in GNome?
[18:27] <justin__> i try to install libdvdcss2 and it tells me "Error:Dependency is not satisfyable : libdvdcss2
[18:27] <justin__> "
[18:27] <wols> justin__: install it via apt-get and give us the FULL output in a pastebin
[18:27] <pmratpoison> justin__: which method are you using?
[18:28] <Boris> luca : are you sure your card is supported by fglrx driver ?
[18:28] <Pici> justin__: If you added the medibuntu repos, you need to apt-get update first.
[18:28] <luca> no i don't
[18:28] <Boris> luca : "radeon" is the name of opensource driver, which doesnt have complete 3D support
[18:28] <freewilly> hi, anyone using a cs46xx audiocard without crakled sound
[18:28] <wols> luca: what card exactly is it?
[18:28] <justin__> im using gdebi package installer
[18:28] <NemesisD> hi everybody, i've got kind of an interesting boot situation that is causing me some problems, my first drive in my boot order is a WD, no boot flag, windows xp on it, my 2nd drive in the boot list houses linux, and I want it to house grub. I need some help setting up grub on a non-first hard drive because right now I keep getting error 22 :/
[18:28] <luca> i used restricted drivers because gibbon suggedst to me
[18:28] <Boris> luca : fglrx is the name of ATI's new driver that has complete 3D support
[18:28] <luca> it's  radeon x700 mobility
[18:29] <wols> nightangel: bad setup
[18:29] <luca> it's in my acer ferrari 4500
[18:29] <Pici> Boris: fglrx are the restricted drivers that Ubuntu installed.
[18:29] <Pici> s/installed/installs
[18:29] <Boris> Pici, yes, i know that. the problem is which version ubuntu installed
[18:29] <Clearzen> NemesisD: Do you have a live disk?
[18:29] <luca> mine is 7.10
[18:29] <clemyeats> justin__: then you need to download all dependencies and install all packages together, but trust me, it's much simpler to use the repository.
[18:30] <wols> Boris: if the drivers don't work on that hardware, fglrx will let the user know it
[18:30] <nightangel> wols : what do you mean by "bad setup" ?
[18:30] <clemyeats> !dvd
[18:30] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[18:30] <rich__> wols do you know much about /dev/mapper
[18:30] <Boris> luca : your card seems to be supported
[18:30] <justin__> ok how do i do that
[18:30] <luca> so what i have to do?
[18:30] <justin__> i followed the instructions on the repository site
[18:30] <Pici> Boris: IF you're suggesting to use the version that has aiglx support, then it will break when you do a kernel upgrade, you know that right?
[18:30] <NemesisD> Clearzen, sure do, i'm on it right now, i can boot to my linux partition if I switch the boot priority but I don't want to because it just causes a drive numbering nightmare
[18:30] <SpComb> Boris: how do I know if I have AIGLX or not? Is there a module to load in xorg.conf?
[18:30] <luca> the fact is that
[18:30] <neverblue> when I do a aptitude search, what do the 'letters' mean, i == installed, etc....
[18:30] <wols> nightangel: the way you describe it you need to muck in XP's boot ini and then load grub in a second stage. simply stupid setup when you could let it load grub directly from where you can directly run any installed OS
[18:30] <luca> when i downloaded compiz it worked
[18:31] <Boris> SpComb : do you have fglrx ? what version of it ?
[18:31] <luca> than it gave me error...and on the nrxt reboot it won't work
[18:31] <Clearzen> NemesisD: what is the output of fdisk -l?
[18:31] <Boris> Pici : yes i know that, but which version did ubuntu install
[18:31] <J_P> hi all
[18:31] <Pici> Boris: The one that doesnt have aiglx support.
[18:31] <SpComb> Boris: the fglrx-driver package is uninstalled, I guess I should install that?
[18:31] <administrator_> hi!
[18:31] <uasc> can someone help me with my KDE4 install on Ubuntu 7.10? i used the instructions for RC2 on ubuntu 7.10 but they didn't give me the "KDE 4" option in the login manager of ubuntu
[18:31] <Pici> Boris: That was released after Gutsy was released.
[18:31] <J_P> people, you know how is possible sabe one atached file from tunderbinrd directaly do network ?
[18:32] <luca> can u tell me how to discover what version i have?
[18:32] <shadowxp> Where are the advanced settings for Emerald/Compiz in Ubuntu?
[18:32] <administrator_> I have some problems there with mysql... any help?
[18:32] <Pici> !ccsm | shadowxp
[18:32] <ubotu> shadowxp: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy), install 'compizconfig-settings-manager'. A new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion
[18:32] <shadowxp> thanks
[18:32] <justin__> celmyeats: how do i use the repository
[18:32] <administrator_> I installed jasperserver and bundled mysql and can't run mysql server
[18:32] <SpComb> hmm, it's a virtual package provided by xorg-driver-fglrx, but installing that wants to remove nvidia-glx-new
[18:32] <Boris> SpComb : ifyou want 3D effects with AIGLX, you are going to have to install those drivers, but it's risky.
[18:32] <neverblue> administrator_, try in #mysql ?
[18:32] <NemesisD> Clearzen, http://pastebin.ca/841505
[18:32] <Boris> luca : type 'fglrxinfo' in terminal
[18:33] <administrator_> ok, thnx!
[18:33] <clemyeats> justin__: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Gutsy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[18:33] <pmratpoison> justin__ : the way I made it work. I enabled the medibuntu repository, as per the instructions on site. Then I did sudo apt-get update Then I opened synaptic and I searched for medibuntu. Then I installed everything I had wanted
[18:33] <SpComb> Boris: and remove the nvidia-glx-new package?
[18:33] <luca> boris....see u later...my mother is calling for lunch
[18:33] <Boris> luca : bye
[18:33] <Boris> SpComb,  sorry, what card u got ?
[18:33] <Clearzen> NemesisD: You are going to have to create a directory to mount the drive with ubuntu on it
[18:34] <Boris> SpComb : ati or nvidia ?