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[01:44] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[01:53] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[03:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[03:53] <ahoneybun> has anyone needed libpng12-0 on zesty?
[03:53] <ahoneybun> I know we have 16-0
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[04:29] <DarinMiller> ahoneybun: I have not needed libpng12.0 on zesty, I can test something for verification if you like.
[04:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[04:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kio build #124: FIXED in 24 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kio/124/
[08:12] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Starting build #31 for job mgmt_pause_integration (previous build: ABORTED)
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[10:38] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[10:38] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kscreen build #258: FIXED in 14 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kscreen/258/
[10:38] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[11:09] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[11:09] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_ksysguard build #88: FIXED in 20 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_ksysguard/88/
[11:09] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[11:09] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[11:20] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[11:23] <santa_> http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/ka-iron-hand_reports/plasma_archive/5.9.3_zesty_proposed_migration.pdf
 I'm on Zesty too and it's driving me nuts
 my monitors keep blinking
 I don't know how to stop it
 currently the image on my left monitor shifts down by about 2 pixels
 and the the monitor blinks
 and then after about 2 seconds it repeats
 if I disconnect and reconect, disable and re-enable, reposition the monitors (virtually) it eventually stabilizes
 and it's usable
 untill I log out
 then the whole thing starts again
[11:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[11:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kwin build #139: FIXED in 49 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kwin/139/
[11:46] <acheronuk> ovidiuflorin: I don't have multimonitor, so can't replicate or test I'm afraid. plasma -devs say multi-monitor is better with every plasma version, but does still seem to be glitches and maybe regressions fr some
[11:46] <acheronuk> santa_: thx :)
[11:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[11:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kwin build #171: FIXED in 58 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kwin/171/
[12:26] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[12:26] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_powerdevil build #78: FIXED in 46 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_powerdevil/78/
[12:26] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[12:26] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kmenuedit build #87: FIXED in 47 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kmenuedit/87/
[12:26] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[12:36] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[12:37] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[12:37] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kdeplasma-addons build #128: FIXED in 49 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdeplasma-addons/128/
[12:37] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[12:44] <clivejo> acheronuk: should we maybe think about splitting apps again? ie uploading the same as before to 16.12.3, I dont like the thought of holding back all apps just for akadoni being a stubborn mule
[12:45] <clivejo> Then we can open a FFe for PIM when its ready to go in
 If we are going to do that, I  would like to point out something
[12:45] <clivejo> @Santa ?
 The current KA scripts have an skip field in its config
 But I could improve that feature adding a 'skip_list' field which would point to a text file with one package per line
 So if you can produce a file with one package per line (upstream name, not source package name) I could add the skip_list feature
[12:49] <clivejo> would be handy for situations like this
 So we could do this nice and easy
[12:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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[12:50] <clivejo> which is the best logic to go for, a black list or white list?
 I was thinking about a black list
 Which in this case would have the kdepim upstream names
[12:56] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[12:57] <acheronuk> sounds fine with me
 @ovidiuflorin I have 2 monitors with zesty and don't have that problem
[13:04] <acheronuk> clivejo: apps 16.12.3 release is 9th March, so not sure how much we gain by an interim partial upload?
 acheronuk @ahoneybun I have a laptop with 2 monitors attatched
 the monitor has a 4K screen, so I keep it disabled
 since I can't scale monitors individually
 and i just use the 2 external monitors (FullHD)
[13:05] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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 can't say I have used a 4K display
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 I've sent an email to the plasma devs, and the Kbuntu devs mailing lists
 I saw that one
 with my setup snd all my issues
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 no reply from either, yet
[13:06] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
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 I'd like to test the newer plasma, but I don't want to make my whole system even more unstable
 I've uninstalled kdevelop, and reinstalled it
 now I have 5.0.1
 5.9.3 is the latest stable
 which comes with Zesty
 which is in staging
 5.9.2 I have
 I don't want to add staging, since that brings newer versions of many things
 you should have a few updates then
 which might make my system even more unstable
 well you can just add plasma staging
 and this is my work computer
 oh snap
 not personal so I can afford random crashes of the entire solar system
 I'm verry pissed right now
 I need a punching bag
 I have to do a hure refactorization at work, and it's very annoying
 + I have to pee
 and that stresses me even more
[13:09] <BluesKaj> thanks for sharing that :-)
 mm that ducks
 needing to pee is more stressful lol
 what is going to change in Zesty?
 will plasma 5.9.3 come?
 or KDevelop 5.0.3 ?
 It' coming
 if 5.1 won't be released in time
 which one?
[13:10] <acheronuk> ovidiuflorin: I uploaded plasma 5.9.3 this morning
[13:10] <clivejo> 5.9.3 was uploaded this morning
 where?
[13:11] <clivejo> what you mean where
[13:11] <acheronuk> ovidiuflorin: to zesty archive
[13:11] <clivejo> to the archive#
 archive most likely
 I don't have an update for it
[13:11] <acheronuk> it is building and doing autotests
 takes time most likely
[13:11] <clivejo> it will take a while to get through proposed
 got an update just for docker and nvidia drivers
 this morning ^
 p.s. I use the something-drivers ppa
[13:12] <acheronuk> plasma 5.9.3 should hopefull be mostly into -release in the next 24 hrs I hope
 that brings newer nvidia drivers
 graphics-drivers ppa
 I use it as well
 yes
 that's the devil's name
 387 came out
 I have 5.7.8
 378
 nvidia-387
[13:13] <acheronuk> so do I, but I have not upgraded to 387 yet
 or 378
[13:13] <acheronuk> lol. yes 378
 there's no 38* yet
 right
 where is the repo for apt?
 I want to take a look in it's code
[13:14] <acheronuk> I am currently on 375 and that seems ok here
 and make it look more pretty when it lists packages to install
[13:14] <clivejo> got to go vote, be back in few hours
[13:14] <acheronuk> but I don't have multi-monitors
 take one of mine
 I hate them
 they are evil
 clivejo vote the mayor for mayor
[13:15] <acheronuk> one bug monitor is fine here. all I need
[13:15] <acheronuk> *big
 ❤ his monitors
 ❤ ovidiu
 I'm talking about my work monitors
 is that Aaron typing?
 I have doubts
[13:16] <acheronuk> ahoneybun: saying that, I could probably quickly get used to multiple ones, then not want to go back
 yup
 that's me
 @ovidiuflorin why would it not be me?
 I can't go back to single monitor
 you said you love me?
 @ahoneybun ^
 yeppp
 ok....
 then.. in that case
 😆
 I ❤ you too
 ;)
 ❤ Open Source Communities
[13:18]  * acheronuk finds a bucket
[13:18] <Tm_T> uhuh
 😆
 I can go pee now
 brb
[13:18] <acheronuk> TMI
[13:18] <ahoneybun> poor acheronuk lol
[13:20] <acheronuk> FWIW, I'm already getting some updates for 5.9.3 from the archive: http://paste.ubuntu.com/24095858/
[13:20] <acheronuk> just the whole set for plasma will take longer
 acheronuk, don't worry, you'll love me too once you meet me
 😃
 no updates here yet
[13:23] <acheronuk> ovidiuflorin: you may be on a mirror that has yet to sync them
[13:24] <acheronuk> I try to mostly use the main 'archive.ubuntu.com'
[13:25] <acheronuk> but anyway, some parts have yet to build. so a full upgrade is some time off
 acheronuk have you managed to also take a look into upgrading KDevelop?
[13:28] <acheronuk> ovidiuflorin: not yet
 can I help?
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 Package 5.0.3 and upload it to ppa
 ok
 how do I do that?
 @CliffordTheBigRedDoggie ^
[15:00] <clivejo> packaging is on LP git https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/+git
[15:18] <vishnunaini> kio in kubuntu-backports needs a security update. ubuntu already pushed out a security update. Anyone here who has access to ~kubuntu-ppa?
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[15:42] <tsdgeos> clivejo: any chance we can get a not 8 months old Okular in zesty?
[15:43] <clivejo> tsdgeos: of course - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/okular/4:16.12.1-0ubuntu2
[15:44] <tsdgeos> that's not there
[15:44] <tsdgeos> proposed is not ubuntu
 Kinda is
[15:44] <clivejo> well it was uploaded to Ubuntu
[15:44] <tsdgeos> does any ubuntu user get it?
[15:44] <tsdgeos> no
 Zesty proposed
[15:44] <tsdgeos> it's not ubuntu
 It is...
[15:45] <yofel> that's nitpicking. It did not pass the migration yet, but it is in the archive
[15:45] <tsdgeos> it's not nitpicking
[15:45] <tsdgeos> it's the true
[15:45] <tsdgeos> truth
 Nope
[15:46] <tsdgeos> ok, so you tell me that it's going to be in zesty when it's released?
[15:46] <yofel> well yes, but the development cycle isn't over yet, or did I miss something?
[15:46] <tsdgeos> freeze is on since a few days
[15:46] <yofel> it'll be in zesty once it passes the migration checks
 It has not been pushed to archive just yet
[15:47] <tsdgeos> it has passed them forever
[15:47] <tsdgeos> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#okular
[15:47] <tsdgeos> 38 days old
[15:47] <yofel> which right now seems to be stuck on something -odp and -odt plugin related o.O
[15:47] <yofel> trying: okular
[15:47] <yofel> skipped: okular (8, 2, 9)
[15:47] <yofel>     got: 66+0: a-23:a-7:a-7:i-10:p-5:s-14
[15:47] <yofel>     * amd64: okular-backend-odp, okular-backend-odt, okular-mobile
[15:47] <tsdgeos> you guys are not doing your homework
[15:48] <clivejo> sorry you feel like that
[15:48] <yofel> uhm... there are a bunch of things stuck in proposed? and the others are kind of overworked right now maybe?
[15:49] <_Wens_> hi! will the security update kio for backports?
[15:50] <yofel> it's not there yet, but that's on the todo list
[15:50] <yofel> _Wens_: ^
[15:50] <yofel> also, vishnunaini, thanks a lot for doing the fixes in the archive
[15:51] <_Wens_> thank you
[15:51] <acheronuk> okular is in proposed for known reasons
[15:52] <vishnunaini> yofel:thanks
[15:52] <yofel> acheronuk: what exactly? new libreoffice?
[15:52] <acheronuk> it needs to migrate with new calligra so the don't break each other and the plugins
[15:53] <yofel> oh, that, ok
[15:53] <acheronuk> and calligra is not migrating until latest gcc-6 does
[15:53] <clivejo> and calligra is something to do with gcc which I have no idea how to fix
[15:54] <acheronuk> as there is a weird versioned dependency on that for the calligra s390x build
[15:54] <clivejo> so its all suck in proposed, and needs someone lot smarter than I to get it out
[15:54] <clivejo> stuck
[15:55] <genii> I think suck is actually probably more apt...
[15:55]  * yofel throws compilers at IBM
[15:55] <clivejo> so being accused of not doing homework very much sticks in the craw
[15:56] <acheronuk> yofel: this is something I was actually thinking about. can we do a temp rebuild of calligra forcing to it to build against the slightly earlier gcc in -release pocket?
[15:56] <tsdgeos> so if i understand correctly, your users won't get a new okular because calligra doesn't compile in s390x ?
[15:56] <tsdgeos> nice excuse
[15:56] <acheronuk> that would unstick okular I think?
 you guys are not doing your homework
[15:56] <yofel> tsdgeos: welcome to working in the primary archive
[15:56] <santa_> well
[15:57] <santa_> 1. it's not our "homework" because we are doing this as volunteers
[15:57] <yofel> hm, technically you *can* add a build-dep to an explicitely lower-than-current version of gcc. But that's really ugly
[15:57] <santa_> 2. zesty is a work in progress
[15:57] <santa_> 3. our intenetion is to get zesty as up to date as possible
[15:58] <acheronuk> yofel: yeah, I know that is not great. but as a temp thing just for migration, maybe it can be done?
[15:58] <santa_> 4. we can't do everything instantly because we are not superman
[15:58] <tsdgeos> santa_: 1. so what? 2. not much work in progress anymore since we're past beta freeze 3. good 4. 8 months old is not asking for "instantly"
[15:58] <tsdgeos> ubuntu sticks out sorely in here https://repology.org/badge/vertical-allrepos/okular.svg
[15:58] <santa_> 5. I got your message in spanish @ kde-devel-es, we have a code of conduct
[15:59] <santa_> 6. if you are so unhappy you are free to help
[15:59] <tsdgeos> no no
[15:59] <tsdgeos> i'll just recommend my users greener pastures i guess
[15:59] <santa_> 7. it's not the only task we have in our to-do
[16:00] <santa_> (and that's it for now)
[16:00] <tsdgeos> santa_: so you really thing i am unfair for complaining that ubuntu zesty seems to be on track of shipping okular 16.04.3 ?
[16:01] <tsdgeos> s/thing/think
[16:01] <tsdgeos> i can't spell
 The way you are speaking is
[16:01] <yofel> you're free to complain, but ranting when we're telling you that it's on the todo list is not really motivating you know
[16:01] <acheronuk> yofel: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/zesty/update_output_notest.txt
[16:01] <tsdgeos> well
[16:01] <tsdgeos> when i first asked
[16:01] <tsdgeos> you all said "there's nothing to do, it's all good"
[16:01] <acheronuk> yofel: trying: calligra okular kdegraphics-mobipocket
[16:01] <acheronuk> accepted: calligra okular kdegraphics-mobipocket
[16:01] <tsdgeos> and now you're saying "we know it needs work"
[16:01] <santa_> tsdgeos: that's legit, saying that "we are not doing our homework" is
[16:02] <yofel> acheronuk: ah, now I see, ok.
[16:03] <santa_> * saying that "we are not doing our homework" is not
[16:04] <yofel> tsdgeos: you were asking whether it's in ubuntu. By our semantics the answer was 'yes'. I told you that it needs doing after I figured out that you wanted to know something else
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[16:06] <yofel> acheronuk: what worries me is that building with a lower gcc *could* cause failures elsewhere (though I would rather think not)
[16:07]  * clivejo goes to take out his anger on a tree
[16:07] <yofel> and wtf? That kernel autopkgtest hasn't succeeded in almost a year o.O?
[16:07] <yofel> happy chopping
[16:08] <tsdgeos> i apologize i made you angry guys
[16:08] <tsdgeos> and i apologize i do not understand your weird standards for what "being in ubuntu" means to you
[16:09] <acheronuk> yofel: well, I was only thinking of changing to 6.3.0-2 from 6.3.0-8 gcc-6
[16:09] <acheronuk> yofel: and then doing an immediate rebuild putting it back the way it was once okular is through
[16:10] <acheronuk> since once any version of new calligra and okular is migrated, I think that is problem over
[16:12] <yofel> tsdgeos: lets just say there was a misunderstanding on both sides and leave it at that
[16:15] <yofel> should work I guess
[16:15] <acheronuk> yofel: happy chopping what?
[16:15] <acheronuk> oh. clive. lol
[16:15] <yofel> acheronuk: that was for clive
[16:17] <acheronuk> anyway. I've been thinking about the calligra thing for tha last week or so. I may try a rebuild in a ppa.
[16:46] <santa_> clivejo, acheronuk: would be nice if you could comment @ ovi's MR https://code.launchpad.net/~ovidiu-florin/ka/+git/ka/+merge/318326 even if it's just a "I tested the demo page and looks good to me" comment it would be enough
[16:47] <acheronuk> santa_: ok will do shortly
[16:47] <acheronuk> santa_: while you are here.....
[16:47] <santa_> yes?
[16:49] <acheronuk> santa_: do you know a way to get dh_shlibdeps to lessen the dependency it generates on a specific package?
[16:50] <acheronuk> e.g. on https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/s390x/calligra-libs/1:<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu2
[16:50] <santa_> man dh_shlibdeps....
[16:50] <santa_> -X
[16:51] <acheronuk> santa_: that excludes file completely though? not lessens the dep
[16:52] <santa_> acheronuk: hmm, what are you trying to do exactly?
[16:52] <acheronuk> see: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/zesty/s390x/calligrasheets/1:<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu2
[16:52] <acheronuk>  depends libgcc1 (>= 1:6.3.0-5ubuntu1)
[16:52] <acheronuk> which was the gcc it was build with.
[16:53] <acheronuk> all other arch builds of callgrasheets dep on libgcc1 (>= 1:4.0)
[16:54] <acheronuk> but that one higher one for s390x (which we don't really care about) is holding back calligra and okular
[16:55] <acheronuk> as that version of gcc-6 is stuck in proposed
[16:55] <santa_> ugh
[16:56] <acheronuk> very ugh indeed!
[16:56] <santa_> let me think a bit and inspect this to figure out something
[16:59] <acheronuk> santa_: thanks. I think we could just lose the libgcc1 dep for calligrasheets totally, as it deps on calligra-libs, and that has a sanely version dep itself on libgcc1
[17:01] <acheronuk> so just exclude calligra sheets from a dep on that libgcc1 at all?
[17:01] <santa_> acheronuk: well, first of all it seems to me using '-X' @ dh_shlibdeps would be utterly wrong, let me check the current proposed status
[17:03] <acheronuk> stuck as s390x deps on the proposed gcc-6 version
[17:04] <acheronuk> or more precisely, just the calligrasheets on s390x. holding the whole thing back
[17:05] <acheronuk> this is not a new thing. old calligra builds had the same weirdness on s390x. and on debian. so it seems
[17:07] <tsdgeos> clivejo: can we also get a newer kgpg?
[17:08] <blaze> it depends on kdepim
[17:13] <blaze> did I upset him?
[17:18] <santa_> acheronuk: well, apparently gcc-6 is waiting on binutils to migrate (binutils was recently uploaded) and the gcc-6 has an autopkgtest regression, so lets wait a bit to see how is that going
[17:19] <acheronuk> santa_: that has been waiting for weeks and weeks. they keep uploading new version which just fail on the tests as the previous ones did
[17:20] <santa_> aha
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[17:20] <acheronuk> blaze: not you specifically. upset seems to be the equilibrium state
[17:21] <santa_> and that's what is holding okular, isn't it?
[17:21] <acheronuk> santa_: yep. the only thing
[17:27] <santa_> acheronuk: well, _theorically_ the correct solution would be waiting for doko to get his stuff done, and then calligra would be ready to migrate and then okular. but let me think about a possible workaround
[17:29] <acheronuk> santa_: yep. have been waiting for month for that to be sorted. but patience is wearing thin now
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[18:10] <santa_> acheronuk: ok, I need to ask a couple of things @ -release
[18:22] <acheronuk> sorry to butt in :/
[18:22] <santa_> I appreciate you butt in, it's good to have your input
[18:49] <acheronuk> santa_: seems we will have to rebuild libkolob against new PIM packages as well, just testing in my ppa
[18:50] <acheronuk> + our libkgapi is too old to build some kdepim-runtime stuff
[18:50] <acheronuk> clivejo: is that sortable? I guess not? needs v5.3
[18:53] <santa_> acheronuk: libkgapi is not part of kdepim I guess, what's the source package name?
[18:54] <acheronuk> libkgapi :P
[18:56] <acheronuk> santa_: is going to become part of PIM for 17.04 apps
[18:56] <acheronuk> I think
[19:09] <santa_> acheronuk: but what version do we need for 16.12? are you sure the current one in zesty is not enough?
[19:09] <acheronuk>  Could not find a configuration file for package "KF5GAPI" that is
[19:09] <acheronuk>   compatible with requested version "5.3.1".
[19:09] <acheronuk>   The following configuration files were considered but not accepted:
[19:09] <acheronuk>     /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/cmake/KF5GAPI/KF5GAPIConfig.cmake, version: 5.1.0
[19:10] <acheronuk> santa_: from testing some rebuild in my ppa ^^^
[19:10] <santa_> where's that coming from?
[19:11] <acheronuk> santa_: kdepim-runtime
[19:13] <acheronuk> santa_: it's an optional though
[19:13] <santa_> ok, and you are doing your experiments here https://launchpad.net/~rikmills/+archive/ubuntu/staging1 I guess
[19:14] <santa_> regarding the libkolab I guess that's because of the ABI manager usage, isn't it?
[19:16] <acheronuk> santa_: don't think so. or not completely. shadeslayer hit the same issue I think on debian. kolab just needed a rebuild to pick up new functions/methods/something in new PIM
[19:17] <santa_> that's weird, anyway go on with your experiments. do we have any news about darin?
[19:17] <acheronuk> santa_: I'll put a rebuilt libkolab in the apps ppa shortly. must just make a not somewhere that any PIM upload needs that to go with it as well.
[19:18] <santa_> last time I saw him I saw he was almost there, but the symbols updating was incorrect
[19:18] <acheronuk> santa_: Darin said the other day to carry on and let us fix it, and he would compare his solution to ours
[19:19] <acheronuk> santa_: so I did
[19:19] <santa_> allright let me check
[19:36] <santa_> acheronuk: ok, I see what you are doing, regarding libkgapi or any other stuff needed for 16.12, feel free to edit the page https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/black-operations/app-store-16.12/
[19:37] <acheronuk> aha. been so many changes to that wiki lately, I have lost track a bit
[19:37] <acheronuk> thanks
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 (Photo, 1280x960) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/H0RpNqkB/file_2122.jpg
 My laptop
 Current state
[20:10] <acheronuk> O_O
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 Oh no not the system76
 Yes
 The ethernet port is broken again
 Actually the flap in front of it
 That clip that holds it in you mean?
 The cable in
 I'm taking measurements and will try to buy a new port that clips the cable in itself
 And remove that flap
 I don't think I have a flap
 The lemur doesn't, but the Galago does
 I don't have either sooo
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[20:49] <santa_> acheronuk: would be possible to poke a few autopkgtests retries for plasma 5.9.3?
[20:49] <santa_> specifically: https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#kwayland-integration and plasma-workspace
[20:49] <acheronuk> santa_: I have been. I think most have padded now, even if not updated on excusues as saying so yet?
[20:50] <santa_> acheronuk: ah, ok, just refreshed the page
[20:51] <acheronuk> http://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/p/plasma-workspace/zesty/armhf
[20:51] <acheronuk> the one fail left on that page ^^^
[20:51] <acheronuk> also passes, but only did so a few mins ago
[20:58] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kdepim-runtime build #118: STILL FAILING in 21 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kdepim-runtime/118/
[21:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kdepim-runtime build #129: STILL FAILING in 18 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kdepim-runtime/129/
[21:33] <valorie> yay, laptop stopped freezing after updates last night! \o/
[21:55] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kio build #284: FAILURE in 49 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kio/284/
[21:55] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kio build #125: FAILURE in 1 min 11 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kio/125/
[21:56] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kio build #412: FAILURE in 1 min 12 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kio/412/
[22:00] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kio build #285: STILL FAILING in 42 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kio/285/
[22:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kio build #413: STILL FAILING in 1 min 0 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kio/413/
[22:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kio build #126: STILL FAILING in 1 min 10 sec: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kio/126/
 anyone still here?
 do I just push my MR to master now?
 to ka?
 or?
 Go ahead
 ok
 pushed
[22:43] <clivejo> hopefully weegie picks it up without throwing a hissy fit
 what's weegie?
[22:44] <clivejo> qa.kubuntu.co.uk
 Santa I'm not sure konqueror supports HTML5
[22:45] <acheronuk> weegie = Jonathan's server
[22:45] <clivejo> Ovi, don't you read the glossary?!?
 I barely read now
 I just finished putting my laptop back together
 my eyes are closing
[22:46] <clivejo> https://phabricator.kde.org/w/kubuntu/glossary/
 I'm sleep typing
 why is that text blue?
[22:46] <clivejo> its a link?
 oh...
 what does it link to?
[22:47] <clivejo> the Glossary page
[22:47]  * acheronuk wonders if a nice silver/grey kubuntu gear would look better as a logo on a dark theme....
[22:47] <clivejo> do we have any artistic people on the team?
[22:47] <acheronuk> not me. that is for certain.
[22:48] <clivejo> nor me
 kind of
 what do you need?
[22:48] <clivejo> but would be nice to have a Kubuntu theme
 he's in the podcast channel
[22:48] <acheronuk> Rick met that graphics bloke who did the log fixing
[22:48] <acheronuk> *logo
 White usually is used on a dark theme
[22:54] <clivejo> acheronuk: how often does weegie do the git pull
 every 5 minutes
 AFAIK
 oh, no
 that's the cron for the pages
[22:55] <clivejo> dont think the git pull is that regular
 ssh into it and do it manually
[22:56] <acheronuk> every 10 mins
[22:56] <clivejo> Ovi the new konqueror supports HTML5
 I'm not an expert in JS
 and I'm sure that there's a better way to do that filtering
 but I have no idea how to debug JS in Konqueror
 actually I don't even have it installed
[22:58] <acheronuk> the git log on weegie shows it's pulled the changes
[22:58] <acheronuk> and :) http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_16.12.2_zesty.html
 it's there
 libkf5incidenceeditor is failing
 http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/ppa-status/applications/build_status_16.12.2_zesty.html
[22:59] <acheronuk> symbols ^^
[22:59] <clivejo> hummm
 you know what would be useful?
[22:59] <clivejo> works in firefox, but not in konqueror
 a counter that shows how many packages you have visible
 would that be useful?
 what exactly doesn't work in konqueror?
[23:01] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[23:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project zesty_unstable_kio build #127: FIXED in 17 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/zesty_unstable_kio/127/
[23:02] <clivejo> the filter
[23:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[23:02] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project yakkety_unstable_kio build #286: FIXED in 18 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/yakkety_unstable_kio/286/
[23:03] <clivejo> http://imgur.com/a/lqLYy
 clivejo do you have some inspect element of some kind in konqueror?
[23:05] <clivejo> but works in Opera and Firefox
[23:06] <clivejo> and Chrome and Chromium
 is JS disabled?
[23:07] <clivejo> and Chrome beta :)
[23:08] <clivejo> I dont know
[23:08] <clivejo> dont use konqueror bar to test stuff
[23:09] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[23:09] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_kio build #414: FIXED in 25 min: http://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_kio/414/
[23:09] <clivejo> doesnt seem to be any options
[23:10] <acheronuk> ovidiuflorin: to be honest, after getting new konqueror into zesty, now I've had a play with it, I don't think much of it
[23:11] <acheronuk> maybe it will be better in apps 17.04 or later
[23:11] <clivejo> me neither
[23:11] <acheronuk> or maybe just die a death for a 2nd time
[23:11] <clivejo> just seems to be a webengine wrapper
[23:12] <clivejo> no way of changing settings that I can see
 Kdevelop 5.0.3 in zesty?
[23:14] <acheronuk> oh, and by the way. if you use Firefox. when the new version 52 comes out on 7th March, the Breeze scrollbars in it will go fat and ugly
[23:14] <acheronuk> if you use the Brezze GTK theme from KDE
[23:14] <clivejo> oh great
[23:14] <acheronuk> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=377008
[23:15] <acheronuk> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1343802
[23:15] <genii> I wonder if qtcurve will make it any less horrible
[23:15] <acheronuk> Hopefully mozilla or KDE will fix that before zesty comes out
[23:16] <acheronuk> genii: qtcurve has no GTK theme any more, has it?
[23:17] <genii> Dunno :(
[23:17] <acheronuk> done away with I think. a couple of years ago
[23:19] <clivejo> is this right? http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/ka-iron-hand_reports/plasma_archive/5.9.3_zesty_proposed_migration.pdf
[23:19] <clivejo> 5.9.3 is fully migrated?
[23:19] <acheronuk> yup
[23:19] <clivejo> wow!
[23:20] <clivejo> the iso should be interesting tomorrow :)
[23:20] <acheronuk> if it's not broke!
[23:20] <clivejo> shhhhh
[23:20] <clivejo> dont jinx it
[23:22] <mamarley> If it isn't broken, fix it until it is!
[23:23] <acheronuk> could do with that on a kubutu t-shirt for akademy
[23:26] <clivejo> acheronuk: btw how did your caliigra unsticking tests go?
[23:27] <acheronuk> not good
[23:27] <clivejo> :(
[23:29] <acheronuk> but I was trying something else.....
[23:33] <acheronuk> seemed to work. hmmmm....
[23:52]  * acheronuk yawns
[23:52] <acheronuk> night night all I think
 Night rik


[04:22] <johnjelinek> hihi all
[04:22] <johnjelinek> how's it going?
[04:22] <johnjelinek> I have a problem, when I try to start a job it fails: `Dec  1 23:18:12 ubuntu kernel: [18131.837454] init: Failed to spawn syncthing main process: unable to find setuid user`
[04:23] <johnjelinek> `user` is the name of the user I'm logged in with
[04:23] <johnjelinek> $(id user) `uid=1000(user) gid=1000(user) groups=1000(user),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),110(lpadmin),111(sambashare),999(docker)`
[04:23] <johnjelinek> any ideas?


[01:11] <PriceChild> xero keeps doing something... then apologising afterwards saying "yeah sorry i shouldn't have done that"... even if it wasn't particularly bad...
[01:11] <PriceChild> He seems like he's trying to be a lil naughty
[01:12] <ompaul> so give him a little ban
[01:13] <PriceChild> he's had one from #ubuntu and decided to move onto -offtopic... I'd rather see what happens... I'm sure it won't be long.
[01:13] <ompaul> a mute would be a good start and tell him no debate 10 mins and every line of text he sends you gets him more
[01:17] <PriceChild> here we go...
 Seriously, what is gnaa?
[01:57] <PriceChild> nalioth, you still around?
[01:57] <nalioth> PriceChild: usually
[01:57] <PriceChild> xero9364 must be a troll after that last random comment... :O
[01:58] <nalioth> you've been watching him
[01:58] <PriceChild> oh wait.... /lastlog shows previous discussion
[01:58] <PriceChild> an hour ago...
[04:58] <tonyyarusso> Mez: No lock file to be seen now - must have been cleared by the reboot :(
[06:05] <Mez> tonyyarusso, still there?
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> Mez: yep
[06:23] <Mez> is gpg wprking no ?
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> Nope
[06:51] <ubotu> IcemanV9 called the ops in #ubuntu
[07:56] <jenda> morning
[11:29] <ubotu> Jordan_U called the ops in #ubuntu
[12:14] <ubotu> Jordan_U called the ops in #ubuntu
[02:49] <ubotu> Pici called the ops in #ubuntu
[02:51] <Gary> mneptok, ping
[03:35] <ubotu> runlevelten called the ops in #kubuntu
[03:36] <gnomefreak> Hobbsee: i remember that nick from somewhere
[03:39] <Hobbsee> gnomefreak: seems like a right pain in the neck
[05:16] <nalioth> !ping
[05:16] <ubotu> host not found
[05:16] <Pici> hmm
[05:16] <nalioth> interesting.
[05:16] <Pici> I guess op doesnt forward here but ops does?
[05:17] <Hobbsee> yes
[05:29] <nalioth> again, we see the ML being used for non ML topics
[05:30] <nalioth> i've told all involved to "ask seveas".  how hard is that?
[05:30] <Hobbsee> nalioth: people are morons, and dont read.
[05:30] <Hobbsee> nalioth: we have at least 2 people today trying to win the "i dont read" award
[05:34] <Zelut> Seveaz: ping
[05:42] <Zelut> nalioth: wtf
[05:43] <nalioth> Zelut: wtf what?
[05:44] <Zelut> nalioth: I think you approached that the wrong way
[05:44] <nalioth> Zelut: probably.  i feel the irc mailing list should not exist
[05:44] <Zelut> nalioth: well that is understandable, mainly I've just seen complaints and whining threads on there
[05:45] <Zelut> nalioth: but when we've tried multiple other methods to no avail we have to keep trying.
[05:45] <nalioth> it is discomforting that the information i provided last week re #ubuntu-louisiana did not make it to you guys, but the ML is not the way to go
[05:46] <Zelut> we've got three of us that have asked just as many ops with nothing done.
[05:47] <nalioth> how many of those ops were members of the (proposed) irc council or seveas?
[05:47] <Zelut> not that you're not doing your job--I'm sure you've got protocol--but go about "reminding us" differently.
[05:47] <nalioth> just because they're ops, doesn't mean they have a clue as to what you want
[05:48] <Seveas> nalioth, Zelut: I've seen pm's from people but they were sent while I was away and when I was back they weren't here
[05:48] <nalioth> Zelut: here he is, ask him now.
[05:48] <Zelut> Seveas: would memoserv be a better solution for that?
[05:49] <Seveas> Zelut, or coming here :)
[05:49] <Seveas> anyway
[05:49] <vorian> I'm apologize nalioth and Seveas.  I wasn't trying to stir up controversy.
[05:49] <Seveas> I just got back from a planning meeteing, I'll be giving an ubuntu presentation for a few hundred people in november :)
[05:50] <Seveas> #ubuntu-louisiana is currently not registered. Was it dropped by the original owner or freenode staff?
[05:51] <nalioth> Seveas: it is registered
[05:51] <Zelut> Seveas: when I've done a 'access #ubuntu-louisiana list' it shows reg'd by speeddemon8803.
[05:51] <nalioth> Seveas: do you wish it to be owned by [whomever]  ?
[05:51] <nalioth> Zelut: has not asked his question yet
[05:51] <Seveas> ah, made a typo before
[05:52] <Seveas> nalioth, he's done so before
[05:52] <nalioth> Seveas: name the owner, and i'll make it so
[05:52] <Zelut> Seveas: we'd like it to be owned by axxium
[05:53] <Seveas> <bad star trek impersonation coming up>
[05:53] <Seveas> make it so!
[05:53] <Seveas> <apologies to all star trek fans>
[05:54] <nalioth> done
[05:55] <Seveas> thanks nalioth
[05:56] <nalioth> can we vote to can the mailing list?
[05:56] <Hobbsee> ooh, yes please
[05:57] <Seveas> I see no reason to do that
[05:57] <Hobbsee> oh wait, that's right, Seveas cant hear me anyway.
[06:33] <Seveas> nalioth, still here?
[06:35] <Seveas> doesn't look like it
[06:35] <Seveas> !staff
[06:35] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick, seanw, BearPerson or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[06:36] <nalioth> Seveas: yes?
[06:36] <seanw> Wjhat's up?
[06:36] <seanw> Oh, nalioth can handle it
[06:36] <Seveas> nalioth, aarghhh, do you need a !staff to show up? ;)
[06:36] <Seveas> nalioth, please cloak coNP with an Ubuntu cloak
[06:36] <nalioth> Seveas: no, you need a bit more patience
[06:36] <Seveas> nalioth, yeah, people keep saying that
[06:37] <nalioth> 2 minutes is a little quick
[06:37] <Seveas> Don't know why, I always wait 5 seconds :)
[06:37] <nalioth> cloaked
[06:38] <nalioth> Seveas: thought for your brain bucket:  some GCs hit me with a PM cloak request and it gets done when i see it
[06:48] <Pici> Can an op please take care of kmindi|ibm-t20 in #ubuntu. He/she/it seems to be saying 'hi folg' every 2 minutes since :25
[07:21] <ubotu> In ubotu, Pici said: tribe is <reply> If you are running a Tribe(alpha) version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, you are already running the latest Tribe of Gutsy. To make sure, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a console.
[07:23] <PriceChild> !tribe
[07:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tribe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:23] <PriceChild> Hmm I'm sure there's another factoid about that... *looks*
[07:24] <Pici> Theres !herd and !final, but they both reference Feisty.
[07:24] <Pici> I just switched it around for Gutsy and made it more applicable to a non-final release.
[07:25] <PriceChild> I'll update "final" then
[07:26] <Pici> For whatever reason there where herd1,herd2 .. etc factoids for feisty.
[07:27] <ubotu> In ubotu, PriceChild said: no final is <reply> If you are installed a Tribe/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Gutsy. To make sure, type  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  in a console.
[07:27] <PriceChild> grr
[07:27] <PriceChild> Right so that's ok isn't it?
[07:27] <Gary> are installed?
[07:27] <PriceChild> whoops
[07:27] <PriceChild> fixed
[07:27] <Pici> Sounds good to me.
[07:30] <jenda> PriceChild: what's up with #ubuntu-luisiana ?
[07:30] <nalioth> jenda: it's been solved
[07:30] <PriceChild> jenda, looks like its not refistered...
[07:30] <jenda> ok
[07:30] <PriceChild> did you spell it wrong?
[07:30] <jenda> PriceChild: louisiana, sorry
[07:30] <jenda> hehe
[07:31] <jenda> CoC, nalioth, Coc :)
[07:31] <nalioth> jenda: it's fixed / solved / taken care of / no longer a problem
[07:31] <nalioth> it's irritating to me, cuz i told them last week how to get it taken care of
[07:33] <jenda> o
[07:33] <jenda> *ok
[07:34] <nalioth> ... and now we're in for 3 more weeks of responses to an issue that had no need to see the ml at all

[07:50] <Gary> erm, wrong channel, sorry :p
[07:50] <nalioth> Gary: you have title to land?
[07:50] <Gary> dessert I meant
[07:50] <nalioth> Gary: or are you off on your spelling today?
[07:50] <Gary> I kan speel rite
[08:22] <ubotu> Norrel called the ops in #ubuntu
[08:22] <ubotu> fyrestrtr called the ops in #ubuntu
[09:01] <ubotu> Pici called the ops in #ubuntu
[10:17] <ubotu> Arwen called the ops in #ubuntu+1
[10:31] <Seveas> !ops
[10:31] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti or mneptok
[10:31] <ubotu> Seveas called the ops in #ubuntu-ops
[10:31] <Seveas> What do y'all think of pici as op?
[10:32] <ompaul> go for it
[10:32] <PriceChild> +1
[10:32] <nixternal> -4
[10:32] <Amaranth> +1
[10:32] <nixternal> ;)
[10:32] <PriceChild> I suggested him a week ago or so
[10:32] <PriceChild> :P
[10:32] <Seveas> ah
[10:32] <Seveas> missed that
[10:32] <nixternal> -6 now that PriceChild recommended him
[10:32] <PriceChild> You were away
[10:32] <PriceChild> What do you all think of de-op'ing nixternal?
[10:32] <PriceChild> :P
[10:32] <nixternal> +1
[10:32] <nixternal> :)
[10:32] <Seveas> +1000
[10:32] <nixternal> ouch
[10:33] <PriceChild> btw new series of "The IT Crowd" on channel 4 in uk right now woooooo :D
[10:33] <Seveas> PriceChild, who responded last week?
[10:33] <Seveas> and what was the response?
[10:33] <Seveas> :)
[10:34] <Seveas> haha
[10:34] <ompaul> nixternal, NO CAN MAKE NOISE
[10:34] <ompaul> :)
[10:34] <PriceChild> I didn't like doing anything without you aruond.... seen as you're still really in charge... because of that I don't think we really discussed it much but there were a few other suggestions from nalio.th iirc
[10:34] <nixternal> orly
[10:36] <Seveas> PriceChild, shame... no need to wait for me -- I'm fine with others proposing/voting for ops
[10:36] <ubotu> MrObvious called the ops in #ubuntu
[10:36] <Seveas> PriceChild, given that I'm so damn unavailable that only makes sense
[10:38] <gnomefreak> stormx seems to have his good days and bad
[10:38] <Seveas> scary, he's in ##trangle :)
[10:39] <Seveas> (pici)
[10:39] <ompaul> would one of you like to explain to MrO that !ops is not a stick to beat people with - better to ask them to be polite in polite company?
[10:43] <ompaul> perhaps as a pm
[10:43] <PriceChild> Will do ompaul
[10:45] <ompaul> we want people to know it is nice to be nice
[10:51] <ompaul> Seveas, want to try him out in -offtopic to see how he handles the grief for a bit
[10:51] <PriceChild> baptism of fire
[10:51] <Seveas> hehe
[10:51] <ompaul> PriceChild, no, I think that he does not have to do anything other than ping one of us for support in there
[10:51] <Seveas> hi Pici
[10:52] <ompaul> Seveas, thanks for cutting me off in my prime :P
[10:52] <Pici> Oh hey, I'm back.
[10:52] <ompaul> to it appears
[10:52] <ompaul> so it appears
[10:52] <Seveas> Pici, what do you think about being an operator?
[10:53] <Pumpernickel> It's too late for us, but you can still escape.  Save yourself!
[10:53] <ompaul> wonders about his lag
[10:54] <Pici> Seveas: I think that if I was asked, I would definitly accept and that it has been my hope as a supporter of Ubuntu and the Ubuntu support channels to eventually be able to climb into that role.
[10:54] <Seveas> Pici, want to try if you can manage being an op in #ubuntu-offtopic?
[10:54] <Pici> Seveas: Sure.
[10:54] <PriceChild> Good reading: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/OperatorGuidelines
[10:55] <Seveas> -ChanServ- [Pici]  has been added to the access list for #ubuntu-offtopic with level [10]
[10:55] <ompaul> Seveas, tell ubotu
[10:55] <Seveas> and please read that document PriceChild linked to, it's a good read indeed :)
[10:55] <ompaul> Pici, which irc client do you use
[10:55] <Pici> I will, I'm looking at it right now.
[10:55] <Pici> ompaul: irssi.
[10:56] <ompaul> ahh one of the dark side :)
[10:56] <Seveas> !ops =~ s/ or mneptok/, mneptok or Pici/
[10:56] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-ops, Seveas said: !ops =~ s/ or mneptok/, mneptok or Pici/
[10:56] <Seveas> meh
[10:56] <Seveas> @login
[10:56] <Seveas> !ops =~ s/ or mneptok/, mneptok or Pici/
[10:56] <PriceChild> :)
[10:56] <ubotu> I'll remember that Seveas
[10:56] <ompaul> PriceChild, you got something for irssi for Pici ?
[10:56] <PriceChild> Yeah
[10:56] <PriceChild> one second...
[10:57] <ompaul> Pici, PriceChild will sort you out with some scriptz for operators
[10:57] <ompaul> makes life easy
[10:57] <Pici> ompaul: I figured ;)
[10:58] <PriceChild> hmm I've lost my copy
[10:58] <Pumpernickel> auto_bleh?
[10:58] <PriceChild> yeah
[10:58] <PriceChild> just found one on google though
[10:58] <Pumpernickel> Ah, good.
[10:58] <Pici> No more irssi for PriceChild?
[10:59] <PriceChild> http://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/auto_bleh.pl_
[10:59] <PriceChild> nalioth, should know where the latest version is when he comes back.
[11:00] <PriceChild> I think that is the latest one though.
[11:06] <Seveas> tsk tsk
[11:06] <mneptok> O:)
[11:06] <Seveas> Gossip time
[11:06] <Seveas> !ops
[11:06] <ubotu> Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[11:06] <ubotu> Seveas called the ops in #ubuntu-ops
[11:06] <Seveas> Gary for op?
[11:07] <PriceChild> gnomefreak, gary for op?
[11:07] <PriceChild> I'd be happy with that
[11:07] <mneptok> +1
[11:07] <ompaul> yeap gazzak as he used to call himself
[11:07] <gnomefreak> whos gary?
[11:07] <Amaranth> Who?
[11:07] <PriceChild> gnomefreak, gazzak
[11:07] <PriceChild> Amaranth, ^
[11:07] <Amaranth> oh
[11:07] <Seveas> been around in -offtopic since ever
[11:08] <Amaranth> no vote from me, i don't have an opinion on him either way
[11:08] <gnomefreak> sounds good to me
[11:08] <ompaul> +1
[11:08] <ompaul> nalioth, ?
[11:08] <PriceChild> Pici, how weak :)
[11:08] <PriceChild> He's away I think ompaul..
[11:08] <ompaul> ahh
[11:08] <ompaul> so I see
[11:08] <PriceChild> I've pinged him enough with no response :P
[11:08] <ompaul> Seveas, do it
[11:08] <ompaul> I think the others are happy
[11:09] <ompaul> elkbuntu, ?
[11:09] <PriceChild> She's bedded
[11:09] <ompaul> jenda, ?
[11:09] <ompaul> jrib, ?
[11:09] <jrib> ompaul: ?
[11:09] <ompaul> the subject is gary for op
[11:09] <PriceChild> I think we should get hobbsee and elkbuntu to suggest at least one from the other side of the world...
[11:10] <Seveas> good idea
[11:10] <jrib> don't really know gary, but fine with me from what I've seen
[11:10] <Pici> Is it just 'time for more ops' or is someone planning on leaving?
[11:11] <ompaul> Seveas, can I ask gary back at this stage ?
[11:11] <ompaul> more like may but what the hell
[11:11] <Seveas> he's been idle for hours
[11:12] <ompaul> well he is invited
[11:12] <Seveas> twice then :)
[11:12] <Seveas> --- You're inviting Gary to #ubuntu-ops (simmons.freenode.net)
[11:12] <ompaul> * You've invited Gary to #ubuntu-ops (simmons.freenode.net)
[11:18] <Gary> hello
[11:18] <gnomefreak> hello
[11:18] <Pici> Hi Gary!
[11:19] <jrib> welcome Gary
[11:19] <Gary> Hi Ya
[11:19] <ompaul> ohh look tis gazzak
[11:19] <ompaul> :)
[11:19] <Gary> :-)
[11:19] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, benn92647 said: ubotu to is a sexybot
[11:19] <ompaul> hi there youngfella
[11:19] <jrib> wait Gary == gazzak?  that changes things
[11:19] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:19] <Gary> jrib, lol
[11:20] <gnomefreak> brb this PPA crap is getting to me
[11:20] <ompaul> Seveas, Oi!
[11:20] <Gary> did you have a question for me?
[11:21] <PriceChild> If midnight_abuse comes back then he needs to change his quit message IMO
[11:21] <Stormx2> Hmm, what did she do?
[11:21] <ompaul> Gary, there is one if only Seveas would get his brain together
[11:21] <Stormx2> Oh, I see.
[11:21] <ompaul> Seveas, .. ping
[11:22] <ompaul> that was me - will it get his attention
[11:22] <ompaul> Gary, he'll be back in a sec methinks
[11:23] <PriceChild> @btlogin
[11:23] <ompaul> PriceChild, methinks you should ask it given Seveas not being here (again)
[11:23] <ompaul> he said so at the start of this whole convo
[11:23] <gnomefreak> LMAO at who should ask
[11:24] <PriceChild> Gary, How do you feel about operating?
[11:24] <ompaul> gnomefreak, well I won't - for being not close enough to ubuntu - like I am close but not close enough
[11:24] <gnomefreak> ah
[11:24] <Gary> well I was gonna cut and paste Pici's answer, but Tom said plagiarism is bad :-)
[11:24] <PriceChild> haha
[11:25] <ompaul> haha
[11:25] <Gary> but my feeling is the same
[11:25] <Pici> Hey, now I dont feel bad for taking so long ;)
[11:25] <ompaul> great
[11:25] <PriceChild> Gary, incase you haven't read it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/OperatorGuidelines
[11:25] <PriceChild> Gary, the idea is we let you in on #ubuntu-offtopic like Pici and see how you do for a little while :)
[11:25] <Gary> read em and try to follow em when I got ops in -uk
[11:26] <ompaul> smart alec :)
[11:26] <gnomefreak> so Pici and Gary == ops?
[11:26] <PriceChild> hehe are we allowed to change our opinions ompaul?
[11:26] <Pici> Scary, isnt it?
[11:26] <ompaul> PriceChild, you can
[11:26] <PriceChild> gnomefreak, of -offtopic for the time being.
[11:26] <ompaul> but then you have to argue with Mark S
[11:26] <jrib> -offtopic is harder to op though
[11:26] <gnomefreak> ok cool
[11:26] <ompaul> jrib, I for one would not expect them to "own" it
[11:27] <ompaul> we are there
[11:27] <gnomefreak> has offtopic been that bad lately? ive been gone for a while
[11:27] <PriceChild> It was nasty last night... quite a lot against me.
[11:27] <ompaul> but they could do a little to get people to calm down
[11:27] <PriceChild> managed to get away without access thguoh
[11:27] <Gary> I've not seen it that bad, but a bit of abuse as normal
[11:27] <ompaul> PriceChild, sorry I was not able to stay more than was there
[11:27] <Pici> Its been a bit hectic lately.
[11:27] <gnomefreak> same trouble makers?
[11:28] <ompaul> hopefully I had been a little bit of help
[11:28] <Pici> Not really, just random people coming in.
[11:28] <ompaul> gnomefreak, na, we had to mode +m it a couple of times
[11:28] <jrib> well, in #ubuntu it's pretty clear cut, in -offtopic it's usually !o4o stuff where people tend to get more heated
[11:28] <ompaul> in the last couple of days
[11:28] <gnomefreak> ah ok
[11:28] <ompaul> gnomefreak, care to give it a bit of gnome love :)
[11:29] <PriceChild> I loved that bit when I said that war was !o4o... then they said it wasn't and explained it was a political discussion :P
[11:29] <Pici> imo, the rules have been a bit relaxed lately, and that has allowed people to get way offtopic.
[11:29] <ompaul> and then leads from the armchair behind
[11:29] <jrib> PriceChild: heh
[11:29] <ompaul> Pici, yeap but try a mute before a remove
[11:29] <ompaul> :)
[11:29] <Gary> I have been there when some highly dubious convo's have been in progress though
[11:29] <ompaul> Pici, and don't be surprised if you are beaten to the trigger
[11:29] <PriceChild> Its probably going to be reeeeeeeeally quiet the next few nights :P
[11:30] <PriceChild> #kubuntu-offtopic can be a bit.... meh....
[11:30] <Pici> A mute is just +b while they're still in channel? or do I need to read up on freenode modes some more/
[11:30] <jrib> Pici: prefix the ban with a % for a mute
[11:30] <gnomefreak> Pici: its a different mode
[11:30] <PriceChild> Pici, mute is +q, or a +b with nick prefixed with %
[11:30] <Pici> Okay
[11:30] <PriceChild> s/nick/username/
[11:30] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:31] <gnomefreak> mute for ten minutes
[11:31] <Gary> I like Seveas's chanserv.py
[11:31] <jrib> Pici: you have the auto_bleh script for irssi?
[11:31] <Pici> jrib: I do.
[11:31] <PriceChild> hmmm its a Friday
[11:31] <jrib> Pici: /aq    does mute
[11:32] <ompaul> PriceChild, yeap kubuntu just had another one of those
[11:32] <Pici> I also grabbed a whole bunch of irssi aliases from Aaron Topance's blog that I remember seeing that should help too.
[11:32] <PriceChild> ompaul, the +1 is in -devel
[11:33] <ompaul> PriceChild, saw that
[11:33] <PriceChild> was a little offtopic and random earlier but hasn't done much
[11:33] <gnomefreak> why is he doing that
[11:33] <gnomefreak> hmmmm
[11:33] <ompaul> gnomefreak, it is friday
[11:33] <PriceChild> gone now
[11:33] <gnomefreak> true
[11:33] <ompaul> pm them and no answer what can I say
[11:33] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: yeah he left without saying anything (good thing)
[11:33] <gnomefreak> ompaul: oh you saw that than
[11:34] <Gary> is there a list of all ubuntu* channels someplace?
[11:34] <gnomefreak> !channels
[11:34] <ubotu> A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines
[11:34] <ompaul> Gary, the ones that matter to this channel are in there
[11:34] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:34] <ompaul> gary there are lots of other ones
[11:34] <ompaul> but they are not run by the -ops
[11:34] <Gary> woo, I can't be in all of them :p
[11:34] <PriceChild> millions of locos, little ones like -server, -adults etc.
[11:34] <rob> woohoo, 5 minutes away from gutsy :)
[11:35] <gnomefreak> rob: warning: i worked on alot of packages for gutsy so expect breakage ;)
[11:35] <rob> Gary, if needs be I can allow you to join more channels then the limit
[11:36] <rob> gnomefreak, sure, I expect only the best from you :)
[11:36] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:36] <Pici> ooh...
[11:36] <Gary> I might try to join all the "Support and Talk" channels rob
[11:36] <PriceChild> hehe when i requested the channel limit removal the staffer gave me a right grilling :)
[11:36] <rob> gnomefreak, its ok, if I run into something I can't fix I'll just reinstall, I have backups of everything important
[11:36] <gnomefreak> :) rob
[11:37] <gnomefreak> no fears everything works fairly well atm
[11:38] <Pici> eww
[11:38] <Gary> pardon gnomefreak
[11:38] <rob> PriceChild, you didn't ask me then :) But yes, usually we have a look at what channels you need to be in and work something out before giving it out, but as an Ubuntu op I already know you need to be in a fair few.
[11:38] <Gary> not like that Pici :p
[11:38] <Pici> Oh.
[11:38] <PriceChild> yup :)
[11:38] <gnomefreak> Gary: i have like 8 chroots that i run and all are using dchroot but dchroot has been having issues
[11:39] <Gary> gnomefreak, is that spanish?
[11:39] <rob> gnomefreak, dchroot having issues in gutsy?
[11:39] <gnomefreak> rob: yeah i think its that
[11:39] <Pici> Gary: Whew. I thought I was the only one that was confused.
[11:39] <gnomefreak> rob: corrupt sources.list(or atleast wont connect to net when trying update or upgrade
[11:39] <gnomefreak> schroot is not a problem i have heard
[11:40] <rob> gnomefreak, I hate what they have done with sources.list.d
[11:40] <gnomefreak> i remove it most of time :)
[11:40] <rob> gnomefreak, have you looked in there for the extra apt lines?
[11:40] <rob> ah
[11:40] <gnomefreak> no it is only affected when using GUI to add repos afaik
[11:41] <gnomefreak> atleast that was the issue in feisty that mvo and i worked on for a while
[11:41] <rob> oh, well lucky I rarely use gui tools for package management :)
[11:41] <gnomefreak> me too
[11:41] <gnomefreak> just to remove kernels
[11:43] <PriceChild> second time lucky :)
[11:44] <Gary> ooow, I feel loved
[11:44] <Gary> thank you by the way folks
[11:45] <gnomefreak> now that means we have 2 more people we can kick/ban for fun? ;)
[11:45] <rob> Seveas, would you like Gary cloak updated? I take it he is a member too?
[11:45] <Seveas> rob, he is not
[11:45] <Gary> rob, no I am not, but I do want to be
[11:45] <gnomefreak> rob: i dont think he is (maybe wrong
[11:45] <rob> yay, need to reboot, hopefully I'll be back in a minute
[11:45] <Seveas> rob, this is a way to become member :)
[11:46] <rob> wow, non-member op. Am I dreaming this?
[11:46] <Gary> Seveas, yep
[11:46] <Gary> you can member me if you like :-)
[11:46] <PriceChild> i wasn't a member when i became an op/mod
[11:46] <rob> Seveas, I thought it was the other way around
[11:46] <tonyyarusso> rob: I didnt get my membership until a bit later.
[11:46] <Seveas> rob, we have more non-member ops
[11:46] <rob> oh, well never mind me..
[11:46] <rob> :)
[11:46] <PriceChild> hehe :)
[11:46] <PriceChild> Its all good
[11:46] <Gary> gnomefreak, they kick and ban me for fun anyways
[11:46] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso, its that little one.... with the little line on it :P
[11:46] <rob> ok, hopefully I'll brb.
[11:46] <gnomefreak> oh goodie
[11:47] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: next to the enter key
[11:47] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: I using the intl kbd
[11:47] <tonyyarusso> Oh, found it
[11:47] <tonyyarusso> '
[11:47] <gnomefreak> on a US board atleast
[11:47] <PriceChild> woo :)
[11:47] <tonyyarusso> Alt+the regular key
[11:47] <tonyyarusso> RightAlt that is
[11:47] <PriceChild> that's a bit wierd :s
[11:48] <Gary> I can do a  :-)
[11:48] <tonyyarusso> Not sure where that is - hold on
[11:48] <tonyyarusso>
[11:49] <ompaul> ej
[11:49] <tonyyarusso> ffgf
[11:49] <tonyyarusso> jhfv
[11:49] <tonyyarusso> :)
[11:49] <Gary>  bless
[11:49] <tonyyarusso> Knowing where that  is could be handle on (rare) occasion.
[11:50] <ompaul> {[] }\ejnJ&J&>N
[11:50] <tonyyarusso> Just my 2
[11:50] <Gary> I can't find a copyright symbol on this mbp
[11:50] <PriceChild> tonyyarusso, hehe you'll have forgotten both of those in an hour... i'm willing to bet on it :P
[11:51] <tonyyarusso> PriceChild: proll
[11:51] <tonyyarusso> y
[11:52] <rob> well, so far so good
[11:52] <rob> network manager is broken, but god bless ifconfig and dhclient
[11:53] <Gary> rob, is this the latest gutsy?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> rob: system>apperance
[11:54] <Gary> gnomefreak, copy these?   :-)
[11:54] <gnomefreak> system>prefference>appearance
[11:54] <gnomefreak> Gary: there used to be key combos werent there?
[11:55] <rob> ah thanks gnomefreak, I hate looking though those long menus
[11:55] <gnomefreak> atleast on aim maybe 5 years ago there was
[11:55] <gnomefreak> rob: anytime :)
[11:55] <Gary> I wish the install was better on the new macbook pros
[11:56] <Gary> if I offer chocolate, do you think the dev's would make it work nice?
[11:56] <gnomefreak> Gary: the intel macs?
[11:56] <ompaul> Gary, no, beer, coffee, pizza and some more might help some :)
[11:57] <gnomefreak> if you are using mac cds to install (good luck as we moved them to port instead of fully supported
[11:57] <Gary> gnomefreak, yeah, the new santa-rosa ones, the install can be done, but it's a pain, plus I failed on getting wifi and audio working, and then the nvidia driver failed
[11:57] <gnomefreak> audio is borked atm for alot of users and so is n-m
[11:57] <gnomefreak> nvidia easy
[11:58] <tonyyarusso> Anybody interested in owning one of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_SX-64 ?
[11:58] <Gary> I did get the gpu working, but then later it kinda died, and I was sadly in a real mood, so the machine got wiped - I do that a lot
[11:59] <Gary> there are mac cd's?
[11:59] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: i have C64 in my attic
[11:59] <gnomefreak> Gary: for the G procs
[11:59] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak: we're sitting on this one now, trying to sell it
[11:59] <Gary> ahhh, mine is a intel one
[12:00] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: find me a free g4 mac and ill buy the C-sx 64 :)
[12:00] <tonyyarusso> heh
[12:00] <Gary> but I am running gutsy on the big pc, and woo, it's good
[12:00] <gnomefreak> atleast i think the g4 was latest
[12:00] <tonyyarusso> We have a monitor, external floppy drive, joysticks, numeric keypad, and a bunch of software as well.
[12:03] <gnomefreak> rob: is cs down?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> been giving me trouble the last 2 days
[12:03] <rob> no, working fine here
[12:04] <Gary> nickserv is dead to me too
[12:04] <rob> might be a bit of lag we are currently getting hit by a spambot network
[12:04] <gnomefreak> its not taking any of my invite requests not info commands
[12:04] <Amaranth> !envy
[12:04] <ubotu> envy is a script that may leave you envious of those who have not used it, use the resticted manager to install binary drivers or use the instructions on the wiki, this script may break your machine very badly!
[12:06] <rob> wow. Appearances is pretty cool :)
[12:06] <PriceChild> I'm not getting anything from cs either :S
[12:08] <Gary> PriceChild, it's lagged bigtime
[12:09] <PriceChild> have they been spamming it with registrations perhaps
[12:09] <gnomefreak> for 2 days
[12:10] <gnomefreak> oh i see it is lagging bad
[12:10] <gnomefreak> maybe yesterday was a fluke than
[12:14] <rob> I think the lag in services has fixed itself up, seems to be working good now
[12:20] <gnomefreak> !info libnss3-dev gutsy
[12:20] <ubotu> libnss3-dev: Development files for the Network Security Service libraries. In component main, is optional. Version 3.11.5-3 (gutsy), package size 232 kB, installed size 1364 kB
[12:27] <gnomefreak> yay done finaloly
[12:32] <PriceChild> Grr missed him
[12:34] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:34] <gnomefreak> PriceChild: it looks like he changed it
[12:34] <gnomefreak> or client died
[12:34] <PriceChild> none of the nicks joining looked much like it and nothing on /who so he'll probably be back