[00:03] <Guddu> Thanks rbox
[00:38] <JonM> I love that the IRC is still alive. thought it was dead
[00:39] <rbox> stayin alive... stayin alive...
[00:39] <JonM> yeah
[00:45] <gry> lovely find, JonM :)
[00:53] <ASDX> i keep seeing "rsyslogd was HUPed" every 2-10 mins on an 18.04 device that i don't control OS updates on. i thought the /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog file might've been causing it but the none of the files listed seem to be due for rotation (and rsyslogd isn't being HUPed on a server with the identical /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog file)
[01:05] <justalinuxmintus> i deleted all my fonts
[01:05] <justalinuxmintus> im in a vm tho
[01:43] <dabbler> Does anyone know whether the Kubuntu 23.04 64-bit ISO uses ubiquity or the old installer?
[01:47] <dabbler> In the release notes, one of the known issues relates to ubiquity, so I guess it has it. Does it have both by any chance?
[02:49] <dabbler> What's the most recent version of Kubuntu for which the legacy installer is available? I need LUKS+Btrfs support.
[02:50] <al1r4d> JonM, it will allive forever
[02:51] <al1r4d> dabbler, just install ubuntu minimal and kde :/
[02:54] <dabbler> You mean install the kubuntu-desktop package?
[02:55] <dabbler> I wonder whether that'll miss any configuration
[02:59] <al1r4d> dabbler, yes, `kubuntu-desktop`
[03:01] <dabbler> Hopefully the result is exactly the same
[03:07] <al1r4d> it will be same
[03:07] <al1r4d> dont worry
[07:45] <vbmade2000> How to make effect of "loginctl enable-linger username" persist across reboot?
[09:04] <Bardon> Hello, I'm trying to install unity hub, with those instructinos: https://docs.unity3d.com/hub/manual/InstallHub.html#install-hub-linux
[09:04] <Bardon> but sudo apt update says "https://hub-dist.unity3d.com/artifactory/hub-debian-prod-local stable InRelease [...] NO_PUBKEY BE3E6EA534E8243F"
[09:05] <Bardon> whereas I did add it..
[09:05] <Bardon> Would anyone have an idea how to work this out?
[09:05] <weedmic> any chance you confused the private key with the public one.  these errors are usually (vague, but) true.
[09:07] <oerheks> support on their forum, as it is a commercial blob https://forum.unity.com/threads/how-to-install-unity-hub-3-4-1-in-ubuntu-22-04-lts.1311612/
[09:08] <oerheks> good luck!
[09:10] <Bardon> oerheks: Ah, I see, thanks
[09:10] <Bardon> weedmic: Not sure, but I copy pasted the commands in the link I sent
[09:19] <Bardon> oerheks: All good, your link worked :). Thanks a lot
[09:21] <oerheks> Bardon, have fun!
[09:42] <Bardon> Ehm, one last thing, the software complains that no usable version of libssl was found. I have libssl3:amd64 installed, and the link you provided says it needs libssl1.1. The guy manually installed it. Is libssl1.1 not available in the official repos?
[09:42] <weedmic> I may have a link for that, just checking
[09:44] <oerheks> avoid such software .. libssl1.1 ?
[09:44] <weedmic> yes!  "sudo dpkg -i libss11.1_1.1.1-1ubuntu2.1~18.04.21_amd64.deb
[09:44] <weedmic> contains all the depircated libssl1 items
[09:44]  * oerheks facepalms
[09:44] <Bardon> oerheks: Why? libssl1.1 is outdated?
[09:45] <weedmic> yes it is depricated aeons ago.
[09:45] <Bardon> weedmic: So the only solution is to install it manually?
[09:45] <Bardon> Ok well, why don't they update it.. I need this software for work though so I'll install it :s
[09:46] <weedmic> if you really need it, if you are enterprising, you can find all the calls to it and use symbolic links and fix it up, but... alas I was too lazy.  I needed it to setup safenet etoken.
[09:46] <oerheks> ask on their forum ?
[09:46] <weedmic> it had security issues, they did update it, but... new versions have new numbers - some programmes don't just look for libssl, but a number.
[09:47] <Bardon> Sadly I have no time to fix their stuff :(
[09:47] <weedmic> symbolic links are powerful.  you could fix it and share the link list with your vrienden
[09:48] <Bardon> I'm just helping my brother install it for some internship, just not worth my time I think
[09:48] <Bardon> even though a symlink shouldn't be too much work
[09:58] <Bardon> Hmm I can't even find libssl1.1 to install it manually
[09:58] <Bardon> How can I know which symlinks are needed?
[10:00] <JanC> Bardon: using libssl1.1 is dangerous & outdated
[10:01] <Bardon> But I need to use unity for work
[10:01] <Bardon> Can't they coexist with libssl3?
[10:01] <oerheks> bad for such commercial product
[10:02] <JanC> if unity3d really needs libssl1.1 I would suggest you drop it, because clearly the people who make it are incompetent
[10:02] <JanC> but maybe your are just looking at some outdated information?
[10:04] <JanC> Bardon: or maybe you should install an old version of Ubuntu, but you should wonder why they don't support newer versions then...
[10:05] <Bardon> idk I followed this doc https://docs.unity3d.com/hub/manual/InstallHub.html#install-hub-linux, which looks like the official doc and it didn't work. I had a key issue..
[10:05] <JanC> seems like Ubuntu 20.04 still had it
[10:06] <Bardon> anyway, I manually installed libssl1.1, now unity "works"... Anyway, it's for my brother's internship, which lasts a few months, it's really no big deal if it's half broken
[10:06] <Bardon> Thanks for your help :)
[10:08] <JanC> the question is: how many more things will he learn wrong at a company like that...
[10:09] <JanC> note that he will likely get into trouble the moment he needs support from Unity3D too, because he's using an unsupported OS...
[10:09] <oerheks> company is at risk now.
[10:10] <JanC> oerheks: to be fair, they likely were at risk already
[10:11] <Bardon> Would it be safer to install ubuntu 20.04 and use it for unity?
[10:11] <Bardon> Or would it be outdated the same way?
[10:12] <JanC> it would be easier to install it on 20.04 as it still had libssl1.1 for compatibility reasons, the potential security issues would likely be the same
[10:12] <oerheks> I'd say test that setup with pentesting tools like kali. sure that makes his internship interesting for that company.
[10:13] <oerheks> and add the log of our conversation*
[10:14] <Bardon> haha that would be interesting, for sure!
[10:14] <JanC> but the real problem here is that Unity3D is clearly not caring for linux users or security in general, or they would have switched to using libssl3 a long time ago...
[10:14] <Bardon> Exactly!
[10:14] <Bardon> I need to go, bbye!
[10:14] <Bardon> And thanks for teaching me a few things :)
[10:15] <JanC> maybe they are going bankrupt or something, that they can't afford a developer part-time to care about such things...?
[10:21] <tarel2> I just got a usb headset.  In the main settings I can't see it as an option at all. I can't see any sound as an option
[10:25] <vbmade2000> How can I make effect of "loginctl enable-linger username" persist across reboot?
[10:53] <weedmic> Bardon: I apologise for being incomplete:
[10:53] <weedmic> wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssl/libssl1.1_1.1.1-1ubuntu2.1~18.04.21_amd64.deb
[10:53] <weedmic> sudo dpkg -i libssl1.1_1.1.1-1ubuntu2.1~18.04.21_amd64.deb
[10:57] <weedmic> Bardon: many times devops get it to work once with an OS they don't know, like linux, and leave it etched in stone.  Runescape still requires 1.1 I believe.  To me, it is just irresponsible.  And, no one knows which symlinks to make, hence why "I" found the archive.
[10:58] <weedmic> oerheks: the company probably has a windows network and will always be at risk
[10:58] <geirha> I'd install it with apt rather than dpkg -i; apt will install any dependencies
[11:01] <weedmic> I think that would fail geirha when using depricated items.  apt is "the way" (normally), but ad hoc, I think not.
[11:36] <realivanjx> anyone else having weird issue after deleting files with files/nautilus on ubuntu 23.04? the file is deleted correctly but the file list shows that the other files have been deleted instead. after i pressed F5 it shows the correct ones. for example i have files A, B, C. i deleted B and C. files/nautilus removes A and B instead and only leaves C.
[11:37] <realivanjx> a bit annoying if i have to press F5 after deleting files each time
[11:47] <oerheks> realivanjx, if this is simular, add yourself to this bug report
[11:47] <oerheks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/2022851
[11:47] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 2022851 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Inappropriate files display" [Undecided, New]
[11:47] <oerheks> there are a few more https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bugs?orderby=-datecreated&start=0
[11:55] <weedmic> I tried to install qemu and was returned "Package 'qemu' has no installation candidate".  I then wanted to install it from muon.  But, which package to I pick in muon?  "qemu-system"?
[11:57] <oerheks> qemu-kvm i guess, that would pull virt-manager and such
[12:01] <weedmic> ty oerheks
[12:02] <weedmic> closest i find is "aqemu" which seems to have both qemu and kvm.
[12:04] <akik> weedmic: qemu-system-x86
[12:05] <weedmic> ty
[12:07] <akik> weedmic: https://packages.ubuntu.com/
[12:13] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:13] <al1r4d> Hi BluesKaj
[12:13] <BluesKaj> hi al1r4d
[12:14] <weedmic> akik: found the file - tyvm - installing atm
[12:28] <hsiktas[m]> I have some available update according to apt but gnome-software only shows me pending Flatpak or Snap packages. How can I include it to check for all updates?
[12:30] <hsiktas[m]> for example apt shows some new perl updates coming from the lunar-security repository, but gnome-software only wants to update Anki
[12:30] <hsiktas[m]> and Ubuntu Software also does not show them
[12:30] <oerheks> snap refresh
[12:31] <oerheks> dunno about those silly flatpaks, see the man
[12:31] <hsiktas[m]> yeah, I can update both flatpaks and snap via the terminal, too
[12:32] <oerheks> snaps would update one a day, or your first update run after boot
[12:32] <hsiktas[m]> I just wonder why those big GUI "marketplaces" omit any updates to the classical repository updates
[12:33] <hsiktas[m]> s/updates/packages/
[12:33] <ogra> they do not .. if they do, it is a bug
[12:33] <ogra> well, at least for the official snap-store (ubuntu software) this is true
[12:34] <ogra> not sure what happens if you move to the plain gnome-software instead
[12:35] <ogra> oerheks, snaps actually check 3x/day for updates (randomized 6h apart) ... and will quietly update themselves (unless they are open nd running)
[12:38] <weedmic> flatpaks let me play runsecape on opensuse machines.
[12:38] <oerheks> maybe there is a snap-store update?
[12:39] <weedmic> snaps - i had to remove firefox and install the real one b/c snap firefox doesn't allow security module installation
[12:39] <ogra> not since april according to "snap info snap-store"
[12:39] <ogra> unless you run te preview/candidate version
[12:40] <ogra> err ... preview/edge
[12:40] <weedmic> you can see what you have on your machine that is a snap verision by typing "snap list"
[12:40] <ogra> yeah, but as i understnd hsiktas[m] is seeing a bug with the GUI app
[12:42] <hsiktas[m]> correct. both snap-store and gnome-software did not show me the pending apt/dpkg updates for my system. Restarting both processes did not help.
[12:42] <ogra> right, there must be some bug ... snap-store is (and should) definitely showing dpkg
[12:42] <ogra> not sure about gnome-software though ... but i'd expect that too ...
[12:43] <ogra> IIRC both use packagekit to manage dpkg stuff, did oyu perhaps uninstall that
[12:44] <hsiktas[m]> afaik, the share some code (and bugs :))
[12:44] <hsiktas[m]> s/the/they/
[12:44] <hsiktas[m]> no, never messed with that
[12:45] <ogra> well, snap-store is the snapped version of gnome-software ... so indeed, they are the same (the snap-store one might be using newer code though) ... but both interface with the systems packagekit installation to see the native (deb) packages
[12:56] <niels862> When I use the magnifier, I find that the magnified window is often not aligned with the text cursor when typing. Should I report this as a bug or is there something else I should do?
[13:01] <ioria> niels862, i'd check the zoom options
[13:05] <niels862> I have, it's set to follow the mouse cursor, but when I type a filename in Files or a link in Firefox, the screen tries to focus on the text cursor but it often does not do this correctly, like in Files it just goes to the upper left corner instead of tracking the cursor
[13:07] <ioria> niels862, might be a bug, yes; i suggest to try wmagnify (in wmaker) or magnus
[13:08] <ogra> wmaker ? that still exists ?
[13:08] <tarzeau> sure!
[13:09] <ioria> niels862, or try the Xorg session
[13:09] <ioria> niels862, unlikely, but can be a mutter issue
[13:45] <MyComputer> I installed kvm from a website.. the new kvm is quite detailed: That being said i gave it a whirl, the config got borked so i uninstalled it all from synaptic: Now - i have no network.
[13:48] <oerheks> from a website?
[13:48] <leftyfb> MyComputer: define "kvm"
[13:48] <MyComputer> https://linuxhint.com/install-kvm-ubuntu-22-04/
[13:49] <leftyfb> MyComputer: is this a desktop or server?
[13:49] <MyComputer> desktop
[13:49] <leftyfb> MyComputer: undo your netplan changes
[13:49] <leftyfb> MyComputer: networking is done though network manager on the desktop, not netplan
[13:50] <oerheks> oh oke, tutorial from a website, seems oke. what did you remove exactly? this yaml too ? "sudo nano /etc/netplan/01-netcfg.yaml etc etc"
[13:50] <MyComputer> i removed kvm and quemu and all virt packages
[13:51] <leftyfb> MyComputer: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/jYKffVyhBX/  this is what your netplan file should look like
[13:51] <MyComputer> ok
[13:51] <MyComputer> ill copy it so i can see it later..
[13:51] <MyComputer> thanks lefty
[13:53] <MyComputer> theres nothing on that page
[13:54] <leftyfb> MyComputer: https://termbin.com/1qzv
[13:55] <MyComputer> got it
[13:56] <MyComputer> cool deal.
[13:56] <MyComputer> I thought i broke nm
[13:59] <MyComputer> have a super day, lefty, thanks.
[14:08] <Thistle> I just did a 22.04 install and updated it.  When I tried to use apt-add-repository to add a ppa repo, it threw a SSLV3_ALERT_HANDSHAKE_FAILURE which looks like a ssl/tls cipher mismatch.  From what I see in SSL labs report of launchpad.net there isn't a compatible cipher with the default in Python 3.10.6.  I can't find documentation on how to enable other ciphers in Python 3.10.
[14:09] <oerheks> Thistle, what ppa exactly?
[14:09] <Thistle> x2go/stable
[14:11] <oerheks> that gives only one package, not complete server, and even the client is missing
[14:12] <oerheks> https://launchpad.net/~x2go/+archive/ubuntu/stable?field.series_filter=jammy
[14:12] <oerheks> contact the maintainer/team?
[14:12] <Thistle> I'm trying to automate a jump box build using Ansble.  x2go is one of the better ways to get remote access to the jump box.  I've run into problems not suing this ppa.
[14:13] <Thistle> The tls connection is to launchpad form what I understand.  The repo isn't added.
[14:13] <oerheks> don't use the ppa, but the original packages https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/x2goserver
[14:19] <Thistle> The yubico/stable does the same thing.
[14:21] <oerheks> weird, can you show us the output when you do ?
[14:21] <oerheks> !paste
[14:21] <oerheks> i see nothing on https://status.canonical.com/
[14:29] <leftyfb> Thistle: check the date/time of your machine
[14:30] <Thistle> This will take a min.  Going to snap my build vm then I can get it for you.  The time is good.  Been bitten there before...
[14:36] <Thistle> https://pastebin.com/WHhPQ9va
[14:37] <ogra> Thistle, there is also #launchpad ... perhaps they have more ideas
[14:37] <Thistle> Didn't know that existed.  Thanks
[14:38] <oerheks> did you run apt update first? and a proper apt dist-upgrade # to be sure?
[14:39] <leftyfb> Thistle: I'm pretty sure you're system either has something wrong with it's data/time or SSL CA's or your ISP is messing with your connection in a bad way
[14:47] <Thistle> yes I did update it Friday though it may need to be run again.  Date and time are OK.  ntpq -p says I'm within a few milliseconds.  I'm looking into security appliances now.
[14:48] <oerheks> we had an openssl update recently ..
[14:49] <leftyfb> oerheks: there would be much bigger problems if the update broke CA's/certs
[14:51] <oerheks> indeed.
[14:53] <ioria> i bet on ca-certificates pkg
[15:20] <MyComputer> leftyb I did that and am back up:  can I now just install kvm from synaptics and create a vm ??
[15:21] <MyComputer> leftyfb,  leftyb I did that and am back up:  can I now just install kvm from synaptics and create a vm ??
[15:21] <leftyfb> MyComputer: probably. If you need a bridge interface, use network manager to create one.
[15:21] <leftyfb> MyComputer: you could also look into lxd for creating vm's
[15:22] <MyComputer> ok, got it.. your a gem , have a super day.. saved me plenty.
[15:22] <MyComputer> lxd ?
[15:22] <leftyfb> MyComputer: https://ubuntu.com/blog/lxd-virtual-machines-an-overview
[15:22] <MyComputer> ill look into that
[15:23] <MyComputer> bookmarked
[15:23] <MyComputer> thanks leftyfb ,
[15:24] <MyComputer> done
[15:38] <lazyfatty2007> test
[15:38] <lazyfatty2007> hellp
[15:38] <lazyfatty2007> hello
[15:38] <leftyfb> !ask | lazyfatty2007
[15:42] <lazyfatty2007> hey sorry im new here
[15:42] <lazyfatty2007>  i dont know this place
[15:42] <oerheks> see topic
[15:42] <leftyfb> !support | lazyfatty2007
[15:43] <oerheks> sure you know where you are
[15:43] <lazyfatty2007> mhm
[15:43] <lazyfatty2007> dont ask me this question wierdo
[15:43] <leftyfb> lazyfatty2007: what do you need help with exactly?
[15:43] <oerheks> please keep this channel family friendly, thanks. no namecalling.
[15:44] <lazyfatty2007> nothing im just testing some stuff with Kubuntu
[15:44] <leftyfb> lazyfatty2007: feel free to test in #test
[15:44] <leftyfb> lazyfatty2007: /join #test
[15:44] <lazyfatty2007> i do / join to test something?
[15:45] <lazyfatty2007> ohh thanks
[15:47] <lazyfatty2007> oh well this is alreado amazing thanks guys
[15:47] <lazyfatty2007> already'
[15:47] <oerheks> have fun!
[16:17] <Cougar> marnin
[16:19] <Cougar> is Gkrellm a good choice ?
[16:20] <Cougar> ive noticed that the others have disappeared
[16:21] <oerheks> yes, still supported.
[16:21] <oerheks> not sure it woks on wayland too, originally it is an x11 package
[16:21] <Cougar> cool beans, thanks oerheks
[16:21] <oerheks> https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy/gkrellm
[16:22] <mantise> Hi. any suggestions on how i can install my printer Epson XP2155 on Ubuntu 23.04 ? i download the deb file and try to install it, but it says  the package have unmet dependecies. their homepage says i should have LSB installed, and i have done that. from settings it can find the printer, but the pre drivers doesnt work. it cant print some error messeges tho.
[16:22] <Cougar> i am not using wayland.
[16:23] <Cougar> just a side question -  what is the estimated time for wayland to be matured ?
[16:23] <ravage> 2042
[16:23] <oerheks> it is used standard, on many distros. maybe there are some quirks..
[16:24] <Cougar> can it "on other distros" replace x now ?
[16:24] <oerheks> some are planning to drop x11 completely.
[16:25] <Cougar> interesting
[16:25] <oerheks> use what you like best.
[16:25] <Cougar> its not what i like, its what works. cool.
[16:26] <Cougar> how far away is 2042 ?
[16:26] <ravage> mantise: i dont see any drivers for linux on https://www.epson.de/de_DE/support/sc/epson-expression-home-xp-2155/s/s2028?selected-tab=&selected-os=Linux
[16:26] <Cougar> j/k
[16:26] <ravage> sorry for the german link :)
[16:27] <Cougar> get a real printer, lozer
[16:27] <ravage> mantise: all drivers i find are for 22.04. so there may just be no available package for 23.04 (yet)
[16:43] <oerheks> Epson XP2155 is not even in openprinting database
[16:52] <mantise> ravage: oerheks: yes its only for LTS i guess then. https://tutorialforlinux.com/how-to-install-epson-xp-2150-xp-2155-printer-scanner-on-ubuntu-gnu-linux-distro/
[16:52] <mantise> so i cant get my printer working on ubuntu :s = i have to go buy a new printer
[16:52] <oerheks> ehh such sites are a scam.
[16:53] <oerheks> yes, find an other printer, or use it on windows only?
[16:54] <mantise> oerheks: they are ? but for what reason ? virus or? i dont use windows at all. :) isnt that why we use ubuntu. to avoid windows
[16:55] <mantise> can anyone suggest a cheap but good printer for home use, that is good with linux/ubuntu ?
[16:55] <oerheks> no info at all..
[16:55] <jeremy31> mantise: HP printers have worked for me
[16:56] <oerheks> most epson printers have great supported
[16:56] <ravage> HP worls as long as you buy their original Cartridges :) but this seems to be a topic for #ubuntu-discuss
[16:56] <oerheks> just check openprinting https://www.openprinting.org/printers/manufacturer/Epson/
[16:57] <ravage> if you need opinions about specific hardware
[16:58] <freak_> join #cyprus
[17:02] <mantise> ill go read about it. thank you
[17:07] <paul424> hello, hello, I try to install ubuntu-resstricted-extras
[17:07] <oerheks> typo
[17:07] <oerheks> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[17:08] <paul424> but get ubuntu ttf-mscorefonts-installer error - I cannot confirm OK
[17:08] <paul424> what to do ?
[17:08] <paul424> how to confirm in the ncurses screen something ?
[17:08] <oerheks> you do this in terminal?
[17:08] <tarzeau> install fonts-arkpandora instead?
[17:08] <oerheks> use tab to go to the selections
[17:08] <paul424> aha TAB
[17:08] <oerheks> and maybe space to confirm
[17:36] <JanC> is there an permanent issue with the MS Core Fonts installer?
[17:38] <oerheks> no, he could not get the selection, told him about the tab key
[17:38] <oerheks> and space
[17:53] <veet35> Hello, regarding ubuntu 22.02 lts. I know multiple people has encounter lenovo ideapad3 bright f-keys not working. Is there known a workaround?
[18:06] <veet> hello, is there a known workaround for brightness fn keys not working on Lenovo Ideapad3 on 22.02 LTS
[18:06] <veet> ?
[18:07] <oerheks> nope, i searched forums, even arch and github https://github.com/topics/lenovo-ideapad
[18:08] <oerheks> file a bugreport? this one is old https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1948505
[18:08] -ubottu:#ubuntu- Launchpad bug 1948505 in linux (Ubuntu) "Screen Brightness keys do not work on Lenovo IdeaPad 3" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[18:10] <veet> Thanks
[18:11] <veet> How can I add information to the bug?
[18:11] <veet> like those "DistroRelease: Ubuntu 21.10
[18:11] <veet> Package: linux-image-5.13.0-20-generic 5.13.0-20.20
[18:11] <veet> ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 5.13.0-20.20-generic 5.13.14
[18:11] <veet> Uname: Linux 5.13.0-20-generic x86_64
[18:11] <veet> ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu70
[18:13] <oerheks> no need to, lauchpad bugreport adds all the info we need. automaticly.
[18:13] <oerheks> just write what you experience, ubuntu version, kernel version written out is handy too
[18:14] <veet> okay, thanks
[18:15] <oerheks> !bug
[18:26] <paul424> I have only one question : why does ubuntu in here when calling a command with sudo asks FOR REGULAR user password, for account it has been called from ?
[18:27] <leftyfb> paul424: https://medium.com/@asmaeziani47/understanding-the-difference-between-sudo-and-root-in-linux-528c84e9b43d
[18:28] <oerheks> 1st account created on ubuntu, has sudo priv.
[18:29] <oerheks> and that would be the same user password
[18:29] <leftyfb> paul424: btw, sudo works the same on all linux distro's.  BUT on both root and sudo you are a god and can do equal harm to the system if doing wrongly
[18:33] <leftyfb> paul424: don't make a habit of typing sudo before every command. Especially when interacting in anything in your home directory or with ssh or anything involving GUI applications
[18:33] <leftyfb> paul424: the only time a typical desktop user should be using sudo is with installing updates or new packages
[18:34] <leftyfb> paul424: there's almost no reason to ever login as root directly
[18:34] <paul424> I know , but I am in the after installation - configure system period, where I have to do apt install or snap install
[18:34] <paul424> leftyfb, oki good to know
[20:35] <jhutchins> As an old school mainframe administrator, and a DOS power user, I prefer to become root to do general maintenance rather than having to type "sudo" for each step.
[20:36] <jhutchins> Most of the modern Windows/Linux environments were done that way as well.
[20:36] <jhutchins> I've never seen a pro system that required sudo per-task.
[20:37] <sarnold> feel free to use sudo -s
[20:37] <jhutchins> -i
[20:38] <jhutchins> That's fairly common.
[20:38] <jhutchins> I do use su to become specific users from time to time.
[20:57] <paul424> When starting system I keep getting a window " a system program error has been detected. Should it be raised and send now ?" what's up ?
[20:58] <sarnold> does that dialog box show you any details about it? eg the program, or error messages, etc?
[20:59] <nameful> hi all i had another upgrade failure on fossa,how would i know its false alarm ? the dialog box for the upgrade went as far as CLEANING then the last message was upgrade failed
[21:00] <paul424> sarnold, problem is : it doesn't
[21:05] <oerheks> xdg-open https://errors.ubuntu.com/user/$(sudo cat /var/lib/whoopsie/whoopsie-id)
[21:05] <oerheks> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/how-to-add-more-info-to-an-uploaded-crash-report/21263/3
[21:06] <oerheks> if you hit yes to send
[21:15] <sarnold> yay oerheks, thanks for tracking down the links :)
[21:19] <ravage> nameful: at that point try "sudo apt -f install" "sudo apt -y full-upgrade" "sudo apt -y autoremove" one after the other and continue if you see not errors
[21:20] <paul424> oerheks, no erros have been reporte from this sytem
[21:20] <paul424> :(
[21:20] <nameful> ravage, noted. tnx mate
[21:22] <paul424> oerheks, why is that  :
[21:22] <paul424> ?
[21:22] <oerheks> if it did not send, then there is no online report
[21:23] <paul424> gosh , tommorow I give back the laptop to my friend , and would like that there are no such message errors
[21:23] <oerheks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ErrorTracker
[21:23] <oerheks> err the previous link gives local reports solutions too
[21:27] <paul424> seems this message box shows after I ctrl-c sudo apt install codecs-extras or something
[21:27] <paul424> what to do, oerheks ?
[21:30] <NothingMan> heay
[21:51] <eruditehermit> hi, I have a question about constant freezing/crashing. I suddenly started seeing constant freezing/crashing on my system. I backed everything up and reinstalled but I still see the crashes. When I use my system with software rendering. I don't experience crashes but it's obviously slow. The system is 8th gen intel 8550u with an intel iGPU. Same behvaiour with 22.04, 23.04. Do you have any advice on debugging. Memtest and badblocks are clean.
[21:52] <eruditehermit> Is this a hardware failure?
[22:02] <jeremy31> eruditehermit: Have you cleaned the computer lately?  Blown all the dust out?
[22:02] <oerheks> eruditehermit, if the bios gives overclock options, do not use them, and see what happens
[22:02] <oerheks> give max mem to the igpu
[22:03] <oerheks> look for bios updates ...
[22:07] <eruditehermit> jeremy31, oerheks the bios doesn't have any GPU options and there are no overclocks. It is about 5 years old. No bios updates remaining.
[22:08] <eruditehermit> jeremy31, oerheks it seems to crash in a similar way on Windows though it takes a lot longer to crash on windows. Ubuntu it's almost immediate on login screen.
[22:08] <eruditehermit> jeremy31, oerheks I've never seen an iGPU go bad but could this be that?
[22:09] <eruditehermit> jeremy31, I took it apart and cleaned it after this started happening. blew off the dust
[22:10] <eruditehermit> jeremy31, I didn't disassemble it completely though. I could take the mainboard out and try cleaning more
[22:10] <eruditehermit> it's a bad time to have to spend money on a new laptop which is why I'm trying to keep it alive
[22:40] <sotaoverride> how can I setup the screen to run in 256-color PseudoColor mode in ubuntu? Im trying to play doom
[22:44] <ravage> sotaoverride: sudo apt install chocolate-doom
[22:44] <sotaoverride> im trying to run the doom I compiled using the original source etc
[22:44] <ravage> they already did that for you
[22:45] <sotaoverride> yeah but I have some mods etc of my own
[22:45] <sotaoverride> need to run my compiled version
[22:46] <eruditehermit> could new thermal paste save a cpu/igpu?
[22:48] <ravage> eruditehermit: only if temperarture is a problem. https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/install-sensors-lm-sensors-on-ubuntu-debian-linux/
[23:15] <sarnold> sotaoverride: hah, that sounds like a fun challenge. these instructions seem promising, but they're nine years old, so .. who knows if they still work .. https://web.archive.org/web/20141029064912/http://jeffskinnerbox.me/posts/2014/Apr/29/howto-using-xephyr-to-create-a-new-display-in-a-window/


[02:49] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[06:31] <ducasse> good morning
[07:27] <lordievader> good morning
[07:27] <Karthyz> Hello
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> hey Karthyz
[07:29] <Karthyz> Oh thats cool, notification at top of screen for ping
[07:30] <Karthyz> I'm new to linux so im fascinated by everything haha
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> first time ubuntu user?
[07:30] <Karthyz> Yes sir
[07:30] <lotuspsychje> nice, welcome to the community Karthyz
[07:30] <Karthyz> :D
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> Karthyz: what made you choose ubuntu, how did you find it?
[07:31] <Karthyz> I always knew Linux and ubuntu specifically existed but never really looked into it so I thought fuck it
[07:31] <Karthyz> and set up dual booting
[07:32] <Karthyz> spent past couple hours setting it up and playing around with it
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> cool
[07:33] <Karthyz> What about you?
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> ive been with ubuntu from the start, now active volunteers and LTS bug tester
[07:34] <Karthyz> Oh nice, you must know all there is then huh? :)
[07:34] <lotuspsychje> we never stop learning Karthyz on any Os :p
[07:35] <Karthyz> Haha, well I certainly look forward to learning more about linux :D
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> Karthyz: you can always ask software reccomends here, and ubuntu support issues in #ubuntu
[11:42] <Karthyz> Hello
[11:43] <Karthyz> Anyone think they could help me with this little problem I'm having
[11:43] <lotuspsychje> whats up Karthyz
[11:43] <Karthyz> For some reason, no settings are saving (display settings in nvidia settings) and I cant get my mic to work
[11:43] <Karthyz> It won't pick my mic up as line in
[11:44] <lotuspsychje> Karthyz: wich nvidia driver are you on?
[11:44] <Karthyz> Erm, 490 I think, lemme double check
[11:45] <Karthyz> Right, software & updates has died on me
[11:45] <Karthyz> Pretty sure its 490 though, the latest
[11:45] <lotuspsychje> Karthyz: nvidia-smi
[11:46] <Karthyz> Dunno what I'm looking for here tbh, I'm new to all this
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> latest should be 440
[11:47] <Karthyz> Probably that then
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> Karthyz: should show driver in use
[11:47] <Karthyz> ah yeah it is
[11:47] <Karthyz> 440.64
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> Karthyz: and what kind of video card?
[11:47] <Karthyz> GTX 1050 Ti
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> Karthyz: what you can try is switch a version lower, and compare
[11:48] <Karthyz> I'll give it a try
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> Karthyz: there are some known bugs with nvidia 440 and 20.04
[11:48] <Karthyz> I see
[11:49] <Karthyz> Before I do so and restart, how do I log back into this because I had to make a new account lmao
[11:49] <daftykins> o0
[11:54] <Karthyz> deep
[11:56] <daftykins> you managed to break the first user account already?
[11:57] <Karthyz> No lol
[12:09] <marcoagpinto> hey hey hey
[12:09] <marcoagpinto> >:) <- the little one
[12:13] <Karthyz> omfg
[12:13] <Karthyz> I got back onb
[12:13] <Karthyz> fdshfgdks
[12:13] <daftykins> easy on the language
[12:15] <Karthyz> Big day for me apologies
[12:15] <Karthyz> Still no audio fix though :(
[12:16] <daftykins> changing nvidia graphics driver wouldn't have an impact on audio, no
[12:16] <Karthyz> Tried HDAJackRetask for audio
[12:17] <Karthyz> not having much luck with it, wont pick up my mic but it's playing audio through my headset
[12:17] <Karthyz> (Using a splitter btw)
[12:17] <daftykins> i think you can do more harm than good just blindly trying things from online when new
[12:17] <daftykins> non-support channel this so you'd be better off over in #ubuntu
[12:18] <Karthyz> I'll take a look
[12:33] <marcoagpinto> daftykins: glad yo see you around
[12:33] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> yeah daftykins :p
[12:54] <marcoagpinto> ohhhhhhh... two years until 2022 LTS :(((((((
[12:56] <joelcrump> i'm just going to upgrade to the interim releases, i like having new things
[12:56] <marcoagpinto> recently I have become more conservative
[12:56] <marcoagpinto> :)
[12:57] <marcoagpinto> since I bought this laptop
[13:03] <daftykins> never anything of interest in the non-LTS
[13:05] <joelcrump> i suppose i might change my mind if there isn't anything to make it worthwhile, but you'd think at some point in two years there would be
[13:06] <daftykins> no, no :P


[08:46] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:55] <Mikaela> hi
[08:56] <lordievader> Hey Mikaela, how are you?
[08:56] <Mikaela> I am not sure, and you?
[08:57] <lordievader> Meh, allright I guess. I think I'm going to try and fix a samba issue.
[09:07] <Mikaela> I am acting like doing multimedia tasks, I think, while IRCing and having many unrelated tabs and reconnecting Windows PCs to domain
[12:43] <BluesKaj_> Hey folks
[12:44] <Mikaela> hi
[12:45] <BluesKaj_> hey
[12:46] <Mikaela> home finally, bye
[13:54] <BluesKaj_> mbalmer, pls check your connection
[13:54] <BluesKaj_> err mbruzek1 ^
[13:54] <mbruzek1> Sorry BluesKaj_ I am trying to figure out SASL and how it works with pidgin
[13:55] <mbruzek1> I registered mbruzek with freenode and I can't figure out how to actually USE the nickname with SASL authentication.
[13:55] <mbruzek1> apologies to everyone for the multiple join/part
[13:55] <BluesKaj_> pidgin and sasl ... use a real irc client like konverstion or quassel, mbruzek1
[13:56] <mbruzek1> BluesKaj_: thanks I would love to use quassel, but I can not get the sound working on that one.
[13:56] <mbruzek1> have not tried konverstation
[13:57] <mbruzek1> ahh both quassel and konversation are for KDE
[13:57] <mbruzek1> What about those of us who continue with unity?  All the extra packages!
[13:57] <BluesKaj_> err konversation
[14:01] <lordievader> Xchat?
[14:01] <lordievader> Irssi :D
[14:01] <mbruzek1> all good options to look into.  Again sorry for the multiple join/depart
[14:01] <lordievader> mbruzek1: That's quite allright, if people are really bothered by it they can turn it off ;)
[14:04] <mbruzek1> BluesKaj_: I honestly tried quassel but the notifications do not play for me at all.  I tried both the KDE and QT client both install fine but both have no sound (and the kde one pulls in a lot of extra packages).  My google-fu has returned no matches for "quassel not playing sound"
[14:06] <BluesKaj_> mbruzek1, why do you need sound on an irc client ?
[14:10] <mbruzek1> BluesKaj_: Because I want to know when someone needs my attention otherwise I am going to work
[14:12] <BluesKaj_> set your client to notify you in the highlight section
[14:13] <mbruzek1> BluesKaj_: I did, quassel gives no beep, I let several messages go while I evaluted it.
[14:25] <Mikaela> mbruzek1: you must set SASL username as the same that you see as accountname in /msg nickserv info mbruzek1
[14:25] <Mikaela> mbruzek1: and in addition to that Pidgin doesn't use SASL without SSL by default. There is also #pidgin which might be able to help you
[14:26] <Mikaela> lordievader: xchat really shouldn't be recommended anymore as it's no longer maintained and it doesn't support anything newer than SSLv3 which servers are disabling. HexChat is fork of it that is maintained and has SASL support and is in repositories https://hexchat.github.io/ . HexChat can also take config from XChat which is explained in their FAQ.
[14:27] <Mikaela> oh and the UI hasn't changed from xchat
[14:28] <lordievader> Mikaela: Check.
[14:29] <mbruzek> Mikaela: I could not authenticate to freenode with ssl enabled.  I was able to manually authenticate to NickServ just now, but would like to figure this out so I will take your advice and join #pidigin
[14:29] <BluesKaj_> yup hexchat is a good alternative irc client especially on Windows
[14:30] <Mikaela> :)
[14:30] <Mikaela> also on OS X, but it doesn't work on it so well according to what I have heard.
[14:30] <mbruzek> thanks for the help I know this wasn't the right room.
[14:32] <Mikaela> You're welcome :)
[14:32] <mbruzek> Mikaela: I am alone in the #pidgin room
[14:33] <mbruzek> not freenode?
[14:33] <Mikaela> it should be at #freenode
[14:34] <Mikaela> I am there and see 165 nicks, are you sure that you spelled the name correctly?
[14:41] <mbruzek> wrong irc server on my part.
[14:41]  * mbruzek sighs, it is going to be a long day
[14:42] <Mikaela> I would suggest you to try HexChat
[15:02] <mbalmer> BluesKaj_, what is wrong with my connection?
[15:02] <mbalmer> ah, that was not me ;)
[15:03] <BluesKaj_> mbalmer, yeah , sorry I mistyped
[15:03] <mbalmer> np :)


[01:51] <MrBIOS> Good evening, folks
[02:54] <MrBIOS> anybody alive?
[03:17] <ShawnR> anyone in here good with samba shares and file permissions?
[03:19] <ShawnR> whenever i edit a file hosted on the samba share, it changes permissions from what it originally was... i need it to stay at the current permissions set
[05:54] <jbander1> Is this a ubuntu group
[05:55] <jbander1> how do you turn off ubuntu11.10 , cant find anything in the top space above the desktop
[05:57] <jbander1> anybody
[16:24] <MichelleQ> howdy, Loco.
[16:24] <govatent> hello
[16:28] <MichelleQ> how are you, govatent?
[16:28] <govatent> I am good. Here at uds.
[16:30]  * MichelleQ waves from Lakeland.
[16:30] <MichelleQ> Not gonna make it over, I'm afraid, except maybe Friday
[16:32] <itnet7> Hey there!
[16:32] <itnet7> Sorry to hear that MichelleQ, Hopefully we'll see you on Friday
[16:35] <mhall119> itnet7: you'll see us Saturday too, right?
[16:35] <MichelleQ> itnet7: Saturday, too.  :-)
[16:35] <itnet7> Absolutely, Hopefully  my family will be able to come too
[16:35] <govatent> yup.
[16:45] <maxolasersquad_f> MichelleQ: :(
[16:45] <MichelleQ> I *should* be there Friday, at least part of the day.
[17:00] <jamalta> Does that mean Friday would be the best day to go if you can only make it to one? :)
[17:02] <MichelleQ> jamalta: the costume party is friday night. :-)  Also, loco party at my house Saturday
[17:03] <jamalta> MichelleQ: oh cool! that'd be interesting :)
[17:03] <jamalta> and the saturday party sounds fun, i have to check if i can make it
[17:04] <MichelleQ> how's britta doing, jamalta?
[17:09] <jamalta> MichelleQ: good, a lot better now that she's started the second trimester
[17:10] <MichelleQ> the first one sucks.  <3  I'm glad she's feeling better
[17:17] <jamalta> thanks :)
[17:17] <jamalta> how's the family doing?
[18:29] <cjohnston> its jamalta
[18:31] <jamalta> cjohnston: hey
[18:32] <cjohnston> I have more summit bugs for you ;-)
[18:36] <RoAkSoAx> itnet7: ping
[18:38] <jamalta> hahaha
[18:41] <RoAkSoAx> x/win 2


[12:35] <mjg59> fabbione: ipw2100 is still fucked
[12:35] <mjg59> II
[06:16] <fabbione> morning
[06:16] <fabbione> mjg59: blame upstream.. not me :)
[07:06] <Micksa> how does automatic CPU scaling tend to behave when playing video?
[07:07] <Micksa> like, if you have a video that plays right if you have it at top CPU but then it uses ~65%, does the scaling behave nicely?
[07:26] <Micksa> I have the inspiron's media buttons working. awesome.
[07:26] <Micksa> er, oops :)
[07:26] <Micksa> this channel doesn't care about that
[01:14] <mjg59> fabbione: Yeah, I know. I'll try to figure out what it's actually doing wrong


[03:33] <punkmexic> i ive just installed lubuntu
[03:33] <punkmexic> but i dont know where it was installed
[03:34] <punkmexic> i have a 400 gb hd partition (windows there)
[03:34] <punkmexic> and i chose to coexist with windows
[03:34] <punkmexic> but i wanted to install on my remaining 100 gb partition lubuntu
[03:34] <punkmexic> i m afraid it was installed inside the 400 gb partition of windows
[03:34] <punkmexic> or where?
[03:37] <holstein> afraid?
[03:37] <holstein> punkmexic: dont live in fear.. use a live cd and look
[03:37] <holstein> have your data backed up *before* doing anything else
[03:37] <holstein> plan for failure, since all hard drives fail.. and confirm the installation, or reinstall
[03:38] <punkmexic> ok
[03:42] <n-iCe> hi
[03:43] <n-iCe> Don't know why lubuntu has been going into a kernel panic crysis or something
[03:43] <n-iCe> is there a way to know what's going on?
[03:43] <n-iCe> clock and mouse stops, so I imagine is a kernel panic
[03:43] <holstein> n-iCe: i would just elaborate..
[03:43] <holstein> n-iCe: you can try an older kernel.. if you have one in grub
[03:44] <n-iCe> I have not changed it I guess
[03:44] <n-iCe> is there any log or something we can review?
[03:44] <holstein> n-iCe: confirm that there is a kernel or not..
[03:44] <holstein> n-iCe: the kernel log.. unless its locked up and panic'd, and not logging
[03:44] <n-iCe> there is not
[03:44] <holstein> n-iCe: there is not what?
[03:44] <n-iCe> other kernel
[03:45] <holstein> n-iCe: its a good idea to keep a known good one around
[03:46] <holstein> n-iCe: if you are asking.. if you are having a kernel issue, try another one
[03:46] <holstein> i usually test hardware at that oint.. memory, hard drive.. then i try a live CD to rule out the operating system
[03:46] <n-iCe> Well, I have not upgraded I guess
[03:46] <n-iCe> how to check if I have more than one?
[03:52] <n-iCe> again :<
[04:03] <holstein> n-iCe: try upgrading then
[04:03] <holstein> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:03] <holstein> do it from tty
[04:03] <holstein> !tty
[04:05] <ibere_SP> hi, i'm trying to report a bug on lubuntu 13.10 using: ubuntu-bug pcmanfm and i'm getting an error message that says it's not an official ubuntu package. any ideas what i'm missing?
[04:08] <ibere_SP> nevermind, i've just managed to use apport-cli -w instead.
[04:08] <holstein> !13.10
[04:09] <ibere_SP> holstein, yes... i'm testing 13.10 alpha 2.
[04:09] <holstein> ibere_SP: /join #ubuntu+1
[04:09] <ibere_SP> holstein, thank you.
[04:09] <holstein> ibere_SP: np ..thanks for testing!
[04:12] <Unit193> ibere_SP: Also   apt-cache policy pcmanfm   and make sure it's from the repos.
[04:13] <ibere_SP> Unit193, yes, it's a fresh install with nothing new downloaded/installed.
[04:18] <ibere_SP> Unit193, just in case you're curious, it's bug #1208681. thank you guys.
[04:19] <Unit193> He replied to the message.
[05:11] <punkmexic> why is a big problem to install a volume icon in lubuntu??
[05:11] <punkmexic> i have several minutes trying to add it
[05:11] <punkmexic> i feel like i need to install 80 mb to do it
[05:24] <punkmexic> hi
[05:24] <punkmexic> i want a volume button
[05:24] <punkmexic> can someone help me
[05:42] <holstein> punkmexic: i use alsamixer
[05:42] <holstein> you might need to install 80mb's
[05:43] <punkmexic> holstein,  please help me
[05:43] <punkmexic> i want a volume icon button in taskbar just like in all oses.
[05:43] <holstein> http://wiki.lxde.org/en/General_Information mentions "volume"
[05:43] <holstein> punkmexic: this is not "like all os's".. its light
[05:44] <punkmexic> yes but volume is essential
[05:44] <punkmexic> that wiki only says Volume control via ALSA. In LXPanel there is another volume control plugin called "volume" using OSS interface. It's not Linux-only.
[05:44] <punkmexic> but that thing is not working
[05:45] <holstein> punkmexic: in what  way?
[05:45] <holstein> punkmexic: i control the volume from alsamixer, or the function keys
[05:45] <punkmexic> i hit add volume icon to lxde panel or taskbar and nothing happens
[05:45] <punkmexic> i want to control with mouse
[05:45] <punkmexic> hitting an icon
[05:45] <punkmexic> without opening a big program
[05:46] <holstein> punkmexic: to add fuctionality, you'll need to add packages which will take up space and resources.. if thats a problem is up to you
[05:47] <punkmexic> wich packet
[05:47] <punkmexic> i need to add
[05:47] <punkmexic> or install
[05:47] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1920029 looks like a good idea
[05:47] <holstein> as i said, i use alsamixer, which is installed.. i use the mouse to open a terminal, and start it
[05:48] <punkmexic> i hit alsamixer and i dont see more volume
[05:48] <holstein> punkmexic: i dont understand "i hit alsamixer and i dont see more volume"
[05:49] <punkmexic> i enter alsamixer in terminal then i press arrows and dont go up or down the volume
[05:49]  * punkmexic installing alsamixergui
[05:55] <punkmexic> argh
[06:21] <Gilligan94> Hi, anyone know what lubuntu's plans are with regards to mir or wayland?
[06:23] <holstein> Gilligan94: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/lubuntu-kubuntu-decide-against-mir-switch
[06:23] <Gilligan94> holstein: hello again :P thanks
[16:22] <Waka_Flocka> how do i update lubuntu to the 13.10 alpha?
[16:29] <Waka_Flocka> anyone here?
[17:08] <leszek> hi
[17:08] <SonikkuAmerica> Hello
[23:13] <csc`> Hi, I have a Logitech USB headset which I'm using just fine with most applications, but the LXPanel volume applet still adjusts to my laptop speakers. Is there any way to set the default sound device in LXDE?
[23:13] <csc`> Running lubuntu 13.04
[23:14] <ianorlin> you can open alsamixer by rightclicking on the control
[23:15] <csc`> yes, but it's tedious having to use alsamixer every time to adjust the volume
[23:15] <ianorlin> I am not sure how to change the defualt
[23:16] <csc`> I have the default set in .asoundrc but LXDE does not honor it
[23:16] <csc`> Only applications


[03:55] <Boren> Do anybody know where to find toolbar icons for ubuntu phone app?
[06:27] <mihir_> Good morning :)
[06:52] <dholbach> good morning
[07:28] <mihir_> oSoMoN: if you get some time today :)
[07:29] <oSoMoN> mihir_: it’s gonna be a busy day too, but I’ll try!
[07:29] <mihir_> oSoMoN: sure !!! do you have any idea whom shall I ask to review ?? because o'wise it won merged in release
[07:29] <oSoMoN> mihir_: maybe Kunal can help?
[07:30] <mihir_> oSoMoN: i am unable to catch him
[07:30] <oSoMoN> mihir_: yeah, he’s difficult to catch on IRC
[07:31] <mihir_> oSoMoN: anyways I'll try to catch him if I can as we have meeting today we'll discuss in that :)
[07:31] <oSoMoN> cool
[07:33] <oSoMoN> mihir_: I’ll take a moment to test and review it now
[07:33] <oSoMoN> mihir_: I have added a couple of comments already
[07:33] <mihir_> oSoMoN: that would be great !! thanks a lot for your help :)
[07:34] <mihir_> oSoMoN: yeah i know that i have taken  care of that , but i thought it would be great if i push all changes together
[07:36] <oSoMoN> mihir_: it’s fine if you push them as you go
[07:38] <oSoMoN> mihir_: I found a bug in the functionality, explained it in the comments
[07:38] <mihir_> oSoMoN:  yeah I got it :)
[07:39] <mihir_> oSoMoN: i already asked question yesterday how can we change pagestack of sdk back button :|
[07:39] <oSoMoN> mihir_: looks like you’re pushing again the EventDetails page on the stack when cancelling, whereas what you should do is pop the current page
[07:41] <mihir_> oSoMoN: it works with cancel but , it save pop doesn't solve the problem because the details needs to be refresh
[07:46] <oSoMoN> mihir_: well at least you can fix the "Cancel" case by just popping from the stack unconditionally
[07:48] <oSoMoN> mihir_: and for the "Save" case, you need to find a way to signal that the event was updated (you need to update the model, and the model will inform the views that it has changed), but in any case pushing again on the stack is not what you want
[07:49] <mihir_> oSoMoN: i just did that for cancel I'll work on save
[07:51] <oSoMoN> mihir_: from a quick look at the code, I believe that all it takes for the model to signal it has been updated is to emit eventsNotifier().dataChanged() in the updateEvent() function
[07:51] <mihir_> oSoMoN: yes that's correct i just want that model to notify that data has been changed :|
[07:53] <oSoMoN> mihir_: so I added eventsNotifier().dataChanged() to the end of the  updateEvent() function and the event is updated in the timeline view, so we’re almost there, the only missing bit is now to update the event details view
[07:54] <oSoMoN> mihir_: you will need to modify the EventDetails view to monitor the eventsNotifier.dataChanged() signal and react accordingly
[07:54] <oSoMoN> mihir_: I’ll leave it to you there, gotta jump onto other tasks, ping me when you’ve solved it
[07:54] <mihir_> okay so from edit page it'll just pop the page is that correct?
[07:54] <oSoMoN> mihir_: yes
[07:55] <mihir_> oSoMoN: okay thanks a lot for help :)
[07:55] <oSoMoN> yw
[08:19] <tmoenicke> gusch: can you please have a look? https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-moenicke/ubuntu-keyboard/ubuntu-keyboard-actionkeys-icons/+merge/190132
[08:34] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Porridge Day! :-D
[08:46] <nik90> fginther: I need a merge for clock-app to be done. Reading your email, I believe automatic merge has been disabled?
[08:46] <nik90> fginther: https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-clock-app/09Oct2013/+merge/190139
[09:28] <dpm> hi mihir_, good morning
[09:28] <mihir_> hi dpm :) good morning :)
[09:28] <dpm> mihir_, nice work getting the event views in shape
[09:28] <mihir_> dpm: thank you for your support :)
[09:30] <dpm> mihir_, no worries, you're doing an excellent job :)
[09:31] <dpm> mihir_, on https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni-123/ubuntu-calendar-app/newEditEvent/+merge/189439 - I think you can do what Kunal is proposing, but let me have a look in more detail
[09:32] <mihir_> dpm: that branch needs to be rejected I guess I have pushed new branch
[09:32] <mihir_> on edit event let me just see
[09:32] <dpm> ah, ok
[09:33] <mihir_> dpm: this is the new branch https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni-123/ubuntu-calendar-app/editEvent
[09:33] <mihir_> oSoMoN: did review solved almost all bugs working on one bug
[09:34] <oSoMoN> mihir_: ok, let me know once it’s ready for a bug-free review :)
[09:39] <mihir__> oSoMoN: sure :) once I am done with my office i'll do that :)
[09:56] <om26er> why are we pushing unfinished changes to the music-app just before release ?
[09:57] <tmoenicke> gusch|lunch: https://code.launchpad.net/~thomas-moenicke/ubuntu-keyboard/ubuntu-keyboard-language-layouts/+merge/190325
[11:15] <CypherPunk39> Hello everyone. I have a quick question about developer.ubuntu.com. I want to use my own domain for my namespace. The website says I need to verify domain ownership but has no instructions on how I do that. Can anyone direct me as to what I need to do?
[11:15] <nik90> popey: hi
[11:15] <popey> yo
[11:15] <nik90> popey: somehow I always manage to uninstall clock app from my phone :(
[11:15] <popey> CypherPunk39: basically make sure your email address matches the domain
[11:15] <popey> nik90: oof
[11:16] <CypherPunk39> Thanks popey. That's easy enough!
[11:16] <popey> \o/
[11:16] <popey> CypherPunk39: where are you submitting?
[11:16] <nik90> popey: anyways for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1237893, I just take a screenshot while running on phone and add that to the root folder should work
[11:16] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1237893 in Ubuntu Weather App "Please provide screenshot and update .desktop file" [Undecided,New]
[11:16] <popey> https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/  there?
[11:17] <popey> nik90: I'm not exactly sure where in the filesystem it should go ⍨
[11:17] <CypherPunk39> popey: Yes, that's it.
[11:17] <popey> lool: .. screenshots.. where should we put them?
[11:17] <popey> CypherPunk39: groovy. feel free to drop by here and we can help anytime
[11:17] <CypherPunk39> I didn't know there was another place to submit lol
[11:17] <popey> heh, there is, some people mistakenly send them to the wrong queue
[11:17] <CypherPunk39> J certainly will. Thanks!
[11:18] <popey> lool: this is for bug 1237893
[11:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1237893 in Ubuntu Weather App "Please provide screenshot and update .desktop file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1237893
[11:18] <CypherPunk39> Oops, one more question. My Ubuntu One address is my Gmail address and it doesn't seem to be changable. Will having my domain email as my Paypal address, enough to verify?
[11:19] <popey> it is changeable
[11:19] <popey> go to login.ubuntu.com
[11:19] <popey> you can set any number of addresses there
[11:19] <CypherPunk39> Excellent. So changing that won't break my U1 functionality?
[11:20] <CypherPunk39> Oh never mind. I see now lol
[11:21] <popey> shouldn't
[11:38] <lool> popey: You mean keep them around?
[11:38] <lool> popey: in the appstore simply?
[11:38] <lool> popey: no idea  :-)
[11:45] <popey> ah, it wasn't you I meant to ask! sorry lool
[11:47] <popey> nik90: but yes, that should work
[11:47] <lool> popey: that explains!
[11:50] <dpm> popey, we should probably update the bug description to provide guidance on where in the source tree to add the screenshot. I assume on the same directory as the .desktop file? Do you know if multiple screenshots are supported, in the same way as apps from the app store?
[11:51] <popey> I don't.  At this time we are unable to process this request, as we are working on the implementation of a new app upload process.' When will it be able to publish free apps?
[12:12] <dpm> hi Braw, what kind of app is it? Is it an app for the phone?
[12:14] <Braw> No it is app for desctop
[12:15] <Braw> *desktop
[12:20] <dpm> Braw, in that case it might be best to follow the suggestion on that notice you saw when you tried to choose the license and use PPAs instead. Our focus is now on the app store (which supports free open source apps already), and there is no plan to add features to the store for desktop apps in the short term.
[12:20] <dpm> in the longer term, there will be only one store, and both commercial and zero cost open source apps will be supported
[12:22] <Braw> Our focus is now on the app store (which supports free open source apps already), and I want to publish free app for desktop.\
[12:26] <CypherPunk39> Another quick question: I may have to build a helper app to my main app. Is Python still fully supported? By that, I mean, does it still have access to notifications, etc?
[12:28] <Braw> I've heard about click package but I don't know how it build and whether I can upload it to Ubuntu Software Center.
[12:30] <dpm> Braw, right now click packages can only be generated for mobile apps that use the Ubuntu SDK
[12:31] <Braw> OK thx dpm, so there is no option publishing an free app to Ubuntu Software Center?
[12:32] <nik90> popey: that bug has been assigned to someone else
[12:32] <popey> yeah, sergio will take care of itr
[12:32] <popey> -r
[12:33] <dpm> Braw, zoopster might be able to help you on that, but the easiest way is to charge a minimum amount for your app for the moment.  There are ways around everything.
[12:38] <zoopster> Braw: just because you charge initially doesn't mean you have to keep charging
[12:40] <Braw> Yes but it is strange ;) So the last question: could you recommend some guide to use PPAs?
[12:42] <dpm> Braw, does that notice on the site not give you a link to use PPAs? (if it doesn't, it's a bug)
[13:10] <om26er> boiko, ping
[13:10] <boiko> om26er: pong
[13:10] <om26er> boiko, phone app crashes when I 'Send text message' to a contact from Call logs
[13:11] <om26er> dialer-app
[13:11] <om26er> boiko, image is 90
[13:13] <boiko> om26er: Mir or surfaceflinger?
[13:15] <nik90> can anyone in this channel confirm if they can open an app on the phone through qtcreator
[13:15] <nik90> I get the erro bash: no job control in this shell
[13:15] <nik90> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6217929/
[13:15] <nik90> just flashed phone few minutes back with --devel chanel
[13:15] <nik90> popey, dpm ^^
[13:17] <om26er> boiko, Mir
[13:17] <popey> nik90: lemme try
[13:18] <om26er> its pretty easy to reproduce
[13:18] <WebbyIT> Mir \o/
[13:18] <boiko> om26er: that's kinda expected I think, we are in the process of replacing the inter app communication on all telephony apps (dialer, messaging and address-book)
[13:19] <popey> [14:19:03] bash: cannot set terminal process group (-1): Invalid argument
[13:19] <popey> bash: no job control in this shell
[13:19] <popey> same here nik90
[13:19]  * popey pokes Mirv
[13:19] <nik90> popey: :( ... I was about to test infographic usermetrics
[13:19] <om26er> boiko, ok. I'll report a bug for the record.
[13:19] <popey> technically I shouldn't poke mirv, but bzoltan, but he's not here
[13:19] <nik90> jdstrand helped me figure out how to implement it
[13:20] <popey> nice!
[13:21] <WebbyIT> nik90 popey are you talking about error in QtCreator?
[13:21] <popey> yes
[13:21] <nik90> WebbyIT: yes
[13:21] <WebbyIT> ok, same here
[13:21] <Mirv> popey: hmm, so how/where that does happen, something after a PPA update or such?
[13:22] <popey> 2.7.1-0ubuntu10 qtcreator, 2.7.2-0ubuntu5 qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu
[13:22] <popey> bzr branch lp:ubuntu-clock-app
[13:22] <nik90> Mirv: just Saucy without any ppa
[13:22] <popey> open qtcreator, open clock app in qtcreator
[13:22] <popey> try and launch on device
[13:22] <popey> it fails
[13:22] <popey> suspect the app launcher script should be using upstart to start the app these days?
[13:22] <Mirv> ok, bzoltan would be the best one to answer, what's the story with 2.7, or does the story start to be that "Ubuntu 13.10 moves to PPA support"

[13:23] <Mirv> and if so, then dpm should update instructions to not mention saucy being alright with pure archives. and if not, the 2.7 series needs backports from https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/trunk
[13:23] <popey> which ppa would you recommend someone test with?
[13:23] <Mirv> popey: the same as for 12.04/12.10/13.04 users
[13:23] <Mirv> which are incidentally already using Qt Creator 2.8.1 + plugin 2.8
[13:24] <Mirv> ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa
[13:24] <nik90> Mirv: wow
[13:24] <WebbyIT> Mirv: I have the same error on Raring
[13:24] <nik90> Mirv: tim did send a reply to the mailing list about qtcreator 2.8 but I wondered why it never came as an update
[13:25] <nik90> Mirv: I guess I need to add the ppa
[13:25] <Mirv> WebbyIT: ok, that's noteworthy
[13:26] <WebbyIT> Mirv: I have only ubuntu-sdk-team-ppa-raring.list as PPA
[13:26] <Mirv> I'm not very up-to-date with SDK stuff, but I do know the 2.8 branch of qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu (which is in the PPA) has fixes that the saucy's 2.7 branch does not, even though the 2.7 has relatively recent backports as well (but not the very latest)
[13:27] <Mirv> WebbyIT/popey: getting on saucy + PPA as well, we would really need bzoltan here or otherwise know what has changed that breaks SDK. maybe some click related change or such?
[13:28] <popey> ok
[13:28] <Mirv> popey: so did this still work yesterday, the day before, or..?
[13:28] <popey> i haven't tried for a while, WebbyIT / nik90 ?
[13:28] <nik90> popey: definitely 3-4 days ago
[13:29] <nik90> make that probably 3-4 days agoa
[13:29] <WebbyIT> no idea, I'm working only on computer on last week
[13:33] <WebbyIT> nik90 mhh, there is a strange thing: after the push the app on phone is update with changes that I made, can you confirm?
[13:34] <nik90> WebbyIT: you mean when you launch the app, it is the one you made changes to recently?
[13:35] <WebbyIT> nik90: yes
[13:35] <nik90> WebbyIT: yes, I have noticed that before but cant test now though
[13:36] <nik90> since qtcreator doesnt allow
[13:36] <Mirv> popey: FYI the script that is for some reason now giving that error is /usr/share/qtcreator/ubuntu/scripts/qtc_device_run_app
[13:36] <Mirv> the script itself is unchanged, so something external has broken ti
[13:38] <Mirv> popey: adding echo 1/2/3/4 in the script it's the last line
[13:41] <popey> Mirv: this has broken before..
[13:42] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/+bug/1225178
[13:42] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1225178 in qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu "Cannot launch application through qtcreator" [Critical,Fix released]
[13:49] <Mirv> popey: the -platform ubuntu is there at least. if I had to guess, it could be apparmor related thing - there were big uploads on Tuesday etc
[13:49] <Mirv> popey: I've tried variations of the bash line like with --noprofile --norc to no avail. a new bug report would be useful anyhow as at least I don't see a quick fix.
[13:50] <Mirv> but it's more probably that the "COMMAND=" line needs something extra then
[13:56] <dholbach> if I click on 'design' in the SDK it seems to open a couple of windows, some of them seem to be stuck in some stage of repainting - is this a known issue?
[13:58] <nik90> dholbach: yes
[13:58] <nik90> dholbach: since april afaik
[13:58] <dholbach> nik90, do you know if there a bug open for it?
[13:59] <nik90> dholbach: I havent seen one
[13:59] <nik90> against qtcreator-ubuntu-plugin?
[13:59] <dholbach> not sure if it's q-u-p or qtcreator on its own
[14:01] <Mirv> popey: I filed bug #1238031 for it
[14:01] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1238031 in qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu "'Run on device' stopped working" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1238031
[14:01] <popey> thanks
[14:02] <dholbach> balloons, is ~ubuntu-bugcontrol still the team you need to be in to be able to see private crash reports?
[14:03] <dholbach> Mirv, can you and your team see the private crash reports in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qtcreator?
[14:07] <Mirv> dholbach: me and what team? ;) I'm personally in bugcontrol so it's fine for me
[14:07] <dholbach> Mirv, gotcha, I meant the SDK team
[14:07] <Mirv> dholbach: ah, right, I'm not sure about their rights (I'm in desktop/integration)
[14:07] <smartboyhw> dpm, when's next meeting for Reminders App?
[14:07] <dholbach> Mirv, thanks
[14:08] <Mirv> dholbach: a good point and worth getting an answer to that. most are not in bugcontrol team
[14:08] <Mirv> dholbach: I can raise it with bzoltan tomorrow
[14:09] <dholbach> awesome
[14:09] <dholbach> thanks
[14:09] <Mirv> I think maybe he could be gotten on the team if he does not see the bug reports, and then he could possibly select the bugs to delegate
[14:09] <Mirv> np
[14:14] <balloons> dholbach, yes
[14:35] <dpm> fginther, would you mind coming over for a few minutes to #ubuntu-touch-meeting? We've got a question about calendar branches not getting merged
[14:37] <fginther> nik90, that MP has been merged
[14:50] <nik90> fginther: thnx
[15:01] <JoeyChan> Hi lisettte
[15:02] <lisettte> hi JoeyChan!
[15:02] <JoeyChan> lisettte   Have u read my email, about the notification bar ?
[15:04] <lisettte> JoeyChan: i have, and i have asked popey to investigate if we can use a standard notification. popey: any news on that?
[15:04] <popey> lisettte: we can't trigger notifications from a qml app
[15:05] <JoeyChan> lisettte   yes pls, I just want an offical design
[15:05] <lisettte> popey: so what can we do about this?
[15:07] <JoeyChan> lisettte  popey        if there's no sysrem notification bar,  we can use in-app notifications
[15:09] <popey> hmm
[15:10] <lisettte> JoeyChan: i don't really know how to reply to your question on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rssreader-app/+bug/1237964; can we not use standard SDK buttons?
[15:10] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1237964 in Ubuntu RSS Feed Reader App "[RSS Reader] Yellow button should be orange" [Medium,Confirmed]
[15:11] <popey> https://code.launchpad.net/~qqworini/ubuntu-rssreader-app/notification-bar/+merge/189650 looks neat!
[15:11] <popey> I hadn't seen that running, very nice
[15:12] <popey> lisettte: well, the above branch works nicely, but we can't trigger system wide settings right now, maybe in the future, but not in 13.10
[15:12] <JoeyChan> lisettte    not use standard button ?  that's exacly not a standard button, just a ubuntu shape
[15:13] <lisettte> JoeyChan: i don't understand? can we use a standard button?
[15:14] <JoeyChan> lisettte   yes, I'll try and take a screenshot attach to the bug
[15:14] <lisettte> JoeyChan: also, jounih gave me these links:
[15:15] <lisettte> http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/qml/mobile/qml-ubuntu-components0-button.html
[15:15] <lisettte>  http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ubuntu-12.10/qml/mobile/qml-ubuntu-components0-ubuntucolors.html
[15:16] <JoeyChan> lisettte  yep  that's standard button
[15:16] <JoeyChan> lisettte   so u want the button looks like the "done" button ?  and the same big as now
[15:16] <lisettte> popey, JoeyChan: should i be looking at a screenshot of the notification? i don't think i can run any other branches on my current phone
[15:17] <lisettte> JoeyChan: yes, for now, until we have secondary buttons in the SDK
[15:18] <JoeyChan> lisettte   ok.   i'm taking a screenshot and attach to email
[15:18] <popey> lisettte: JoeyChan http://imgur.com/dFY6Y8D,ESjHuK1
[15:19] <JoeyChan> oho
[15:19] <popey> ☻
[15:19] <JoeyChan> quick  :P
[15:19] <popey> always have imgur open, top tip ☻
[15:20] <JoeyChan> popey,  could u try press the "save" button multiple times?  :P
[15:23] <lisettte> mehow_: see screenshot above ^^^^
[15:26] <popey> JoeyChan: yeah, it appears lots ☻
[15:27] <ahayzen> popey, so wht happens tomorrow do we hit feature freeze? code freeze? and what does it mean to us as app developers?
[15:27] <popey> JoeyChan: lisettte http://imgur.com/1eRPMKH
[15:27] <popey> ahayzen: s/tomorrow/today/ ☻
[15:27] <ahayzen> popey, midnight?
[15:27] <popey> ahayzen: we have a little slack, looks like last image won't build until monday
[15:28] <popey> as there are other issues being dealt with
[15:28] <lisettte> JoeyChan: why so many??
[15:28] <ahayzen> popey, ok so it is a total code freeze not just feature freeze and we can only submit bug fixes?
[15:28] <JoeyChan> lisettte    dont worry
[15:29] <JoeyChan> lisettte    notifications will automatically disappear
[15:31] <popey> lisettte: i repeatedly stabbed the button in quick succession
[15:32] <lisettte> popey: so the toolbar stays open?
[15:32] <popey> ahayzen: the image will be frozen on monday, we won't be able to put anything in at that point. however we can deliver updates through the store, which will be gated by us.
[15:32] <popey> lisettte: yes
[15:32] <lisettte> popey, JoeyChan: i think we only need the notification if the toolbar closes
[15:32] <ahayzen> popey, ok cool tht makes sense thx :)
[15:33] <lisettte> popey, JoeyChan: if it doesn't close, the user can see that their action had an effect, so a notification is overkill
[15:33] <JoeyChan> lisettte   I suggest have a try that branch, then reply me with ur opinions
[15:34] <lisettte> JoeyChan: i cannot try branches in my current phone build (i think..? popey?)
[15:34] <popey> ahayzen: so chop chop! ㋛
[15:34] <ahayzen> popey, hehe we're trying :) had lots of stuff landing yesterday
[15:34] <popey> lisettte: I'm testing on my desktop
[15:34] <popey> ahayzen: yeah, awesome work!
[15:35] <ahayzen> popey, thx :)
[15:35] <ahayzen> danielholm, ping
[15:36] <danielholm> ahayzen: hey mate
[15:36] <ahayzen> danielholm, in response to ur email think it'll be pretty simple
[15:37] <danielholm> yes
[15:37] <danielholm> I'm adding it right niw
[15:37] <danielholm> as we speak
[15:37] <danielholm> also change color of the swipe to delete
[15:37] <ahayzen> danielholm, use musicToolbarContainer.goBack()
[15:37] <danielholm> so not musicToolbar.goBack();
[15:38] <ahayzen> danielholm, its inside the container but tht may work if it is being exposed try it :)
[15:38] <danielholm> ahayzen: that was uses in nowPlaying
[15:39] <danielholm> ahayzen: so I thought it might work. Just have to try on device as well.
[15:39] <ahayzen> danielholm, ah yes... short term memory loss :)
[15:39] <danielholm> ahayzen: also I will change the text "back" to the back icon using Icon {} in the toolbar, ok?
[15:39] <danielholm> haha
[15:39] <ahayzen> danielholm, are we gonna do all the icons in 1 hit like Victor suggested?
[15:40] <danielholm> there are a lot of strings that are not translatable...
[15:40] <danielholm> yeah, maybe thats better
[15:40] <danielholm> I'll hold then
[15:40] <ahayzen> danielholm, do you just wrap i18n.tr() around the text?
[15:43] <danielholm> ahayzen: yes
[15:48] <JoeyChan> lisettte  popey    any update  ?    or  is the notification bar necessary ?
[15:51] <popey> JoeyChan: I think that's a question for lisettte and mehow_ ☻
[15:52] <Mirv> popey: so as updated in the bug report, the app run problem is mir related. if you know anyone who could know about app launching from ssh under mir, feel free to ping about that
[15:53] <lisettte> popey, mehow_, JoeyChan: the notification is not necessary if the toolbar stays open after pressing 'Save'
[15:53] <JoeyChan> lisettte    pls update me via that email, so I can easily follow,    it's late in China now,  goodnight  :)
[15:54] <JoeyChan> lisettte   roger that
[15:54] <lisettte> JoeyChan: sure will! goodnight!
[15:55] <JoeyChan> lisettte  sorry, forgot to tell u,  Roman and I wont add new features before 17th
[15:55] <JoeyChan> lisettte,  the multi-selection is complicated to implement, sorry
[15:56] <JoeyChan> lisettte,  this feature affect too many other parts
[15:57] <lisettte> JoeyChan: i agree; better to leave it for later
[15:57] <JoeyChan> lisettte,  ok..  gonna sleep,  goodnight  :)
[17:13] <popey> mhall119: when you get a mo, can you check out that mail I forward, looks like stock ticker might be a one line fix (I don't know which line) :D
[17:14] <popey> (and if it works for stock ticker, it may well work for udraw and others)
[17:55] <mhall119> popey: I have no idea what's being discussed in that email, can you provide context?
[17:57] <popey> mhall119: scroll down ☻
[17:58] <popey> its for the bug you filed, it should be mentioned at the bottom
[17:58]  * popey checks
[17:58] <popey> mhall119: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1229287 that bug, the canvas one
[17:58] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1229287 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "Drawing apps show only a black screen where drawable component should be" [High,Confirmed]
[17:58] <iBelieve> popey, are we going to have a file manager meeting today?
[18:01] <mhall119> popey: okay, I'm still not sure what technically is wrong or needs to be done, what did you want me to do with this?
[18:02] <popey> iBelieve: sure
[18:02] <popey> mhall119: i wondered if you were able to parse the last line of his mail... "Also, I believe that [ renderStrategy: Canvas.Immediate ] needs to be
[18:02] <popey> set. If not, it is the hardware setting for it."
[18:03] <iBelieve> popey, I don't know if there is anything to discuss, but I was just wondering if you wanted to have one. What time?
[18:03] <popey> iBelieve: 20:00 UTC
[18:04] <iBelieve> popey, okay. Is that the time we will have meetings at in the future? I remember we discussed moving it 2 hours sooner to 18:00 UTC (now).
[18:04] <popey> iBelieve: i suspect this will be the last one
[18:04] <mhall119> popey: no, I would heave to learn more baout the API around that to understand what me means
[18:05] <popey> mhall119: oh, ok.
[19:01] <mrqtros> RSS Reader time? :))
[19:05] <mrqtros> If it' interesting to someone how it is going in RSS Reader team - all is ok, no any blockers (only Tabs component with dynamic management - to improve performance), near to v1.0
[19:06] <popey> mrqtros: did you mean to be in -meeting? ☻
[19:07] <mrqtros> popey I am little hurry :)
[19:07] <mrqtros> popey so if you haven't any question for me or our team - I'll go soon :)
[19:08] <popey> mrqtros: no problem. I have no questions. I can send a mail if that's easier?
[19:08]  * popey is in the middle of cooking dinner too :D
[19:09] <mrqtros> popey of course! I'll try to add screenshot to *.desktop file  today too (already fixed three little bugs today ;) )
[19:10] <mrqtros> popey but since main content of our app is downloadable (I mean custom feeds for each user), maybe designers should take the job of taking screenshot with "right" content
[19:12] <popey> mrqtros: we can do that
[19:13] <mrqtros> popey I can only advice you to use "beautiful" feed, like "deviant art" site feed ;)
[19:14] <popey> ☻
[19:14] <mrqtros> popey it contains a lot of hd images, looks great ;)
[19:14] <popey> mrqtros: and there was me going to use reddit.com/r/cringe
[20:23] <WebbyIT> popey, Kunal (that guy rocks) fix the problem with new-event in Argument, he now has just to review it, I think that tomorrow he can merge the branch
[20:25] <popey> awesome WebbyIT !
[20:25] <popey> thanks for working so hard on this the last few weeks!
[20:27] <WebbyIT> popey, ahh, I made less than I wanted to, but thanks anyway :)
[20:28] <WebbyIT> popey, BTW, I have to make a presentation about Ubuntu Touch for our Loco Meeting, do you have some slides where I can take inspiration?
[20:31] <popey> hmm, i don't know. I'll have a look and see
[20:34] <WebbyIT> thanks