[00:00] <togetic> right
[00:00] <skierpage> katoda, Thanks.  It would sure be nice if KPackageKit showed what PPA caused a particular package or update listing.
[00:00] <Zorael> togetic: Does your /usr/sbin/update-openoffice-dicts exist, to begin with?
[00:01] <Zorael> togetic: also, have you tried simply renaming your home folder to something else and have your DE recreate its files?
[00:01] <togetic> one sec, need to chown into the system since i'm using a live cd atm
[00:01] <Zorael> just mount it :)
[00:03] <togetic> right
[00:03] <togetic> but to use apt-get i'll need to chown
[00:04] <Zorael> I imagine you mean chroot, but yeah, point taken
[00:04] <katoda> re
[00:04] <katoda> does anybody with kde 4.3beta2 confirm disappearing of restart icon (K->Leave->Restart)?
[00:04] <togetic> I mean chroot
[00:05] <togetic> and i am chrooted so... let's look for the file
[00:05] <Zorael> right, /usr/sbin/update-openoffice-dicts
[00:06] <togetic> Zorael: no, the file doesn't exist
[00:06] <togetic> i used locate and looked myself
[00:06] <togetic> i haven't tried renaming it
[00:06] <togetic> it == my home folder
[00:07] <togetic> how would the DE recreate the files, you might have to explain that one a little further
[00:07] <Zorael> first of all, do you have the dictionaries-common package installed? (apt-cache policy dictionaries-common)
[00:09]  * tr_hawk waves goodbye
[00:09] <Zorael> katoda: No, I have the icon and I'm on 4.3b2
[00:09] <togetic> Zorael: no i don't
[00:09] <togetic> needed?
[00:10] <katoda> Zorael: and do you have "administrator mode" in kde system settings?
[00:11] <togetic> do i need dictionaries-common or dictionaries-common-dev?
[00:11] <Zorael> togetic: well, iirc the package that refused to configure was an openoffice package, and openoffice seems to depend on that dictionaries-common, so seems like a broken dependency. try installing it; sudo aptitude install dictionaries-common
[00:11] <Zorael> katoda: No, been missing for quite a while, I think?
[00:12] <katoda> Zorael: AFAIR in 4.2 it was availible
[00:13] <Zorael> katoda: Maybe, I've been running it with kdesu for quite a while though
[00:13] <katoda> Zorael: ok, nvm, i want my restart icon back! ~~ ;-)
[00:14] <togetic> http://paste.ubuntu.com/193065/
[00:14] <togetic> Zorael ^
[00:14] <togetic> and anyone else willing to help ^
[00:15] <Zorael> togetic: sudo aptitude reinstall openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us dictionaries-common+
[00:16] <Zorael> (last + important)
[00:17] <togetic> what does the plus sign do?
[00:18] <togetic> that worked whatever it was
[00:18] <Zorael> it installs dictionaries-common and reinstalls openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us
[00:18] <togetic> interesting
[00:18] <Zorael> quite!
[00:19] <togetic> now i can't even recall why i needed apt to work :P
[00:19] <togetic> anywho, need kdm fixed now i suppose
[00:19] <Zorael> for your WM, do you get as far as to the login screen?
[00:19] <togetic> maybe it has to do w/ permission
[00:19] <togetic> kdm is as far as i get
[00:19] <togetic> and i can login through a tty screen, but no X
[00:19] <togetic> ..i think..
[00:19] <Zorael> kdm, as in the greeter, right?
[00:19] <togetic> let me reboot into the machine to find out
[00:20] <togetic> si senor
[00:20] <togetic> yes
[00:20] <Zorael> Anyway,  try creating another user
[00:20] <togetic> i could use one of the several already there right?
[00:20] <togetic> i haven't tried them yet
[00:20] <togetic> will reboot now
[00:20] <Zorael> if the permissions of your home directory is botched (though we fixed /home itself earlier), creating a new one should make it work for him/her/it
[00:21] <Zorael> Several already there? o.0
[00:21] <katoda> Zorael: I'm here :P
[00:21] <katoda> give me my restart icon back! :D
[00:21] <Zorael> katoda: It's mine now!
[00:22]  * Zorael runs off, laughing hysterically
[00:22] <katoda> Zorael: you have stolen it from me!
[00:22]  * katoda thinks how it happens
[00:23]  * katoda doesn't use IE though
[00:23] <Zorael> katoda: Tried reinstalling the icon packages? sudo aptitude reinstall kde-icons-oxygen kdeartwork-theme-icon
[00:24] <terettes15> i need help with this codecs i just down loaded.
[00:24] <katoda> don't have kdeartwork-theme-icon installed :P
[00:24] <katoda> maybe it'll help
[00:25] <Zorael> perhaps it's something I installed, omit it
[00:25] <katoda> Zorael: maybe it'll help ;)
[00:25] <Zorael> Ah, yeah, it's a part of the kdeartwork bundle
[00:25] <Zorael> katoda: can't hurt :3
[00:26] <katoda> Zorael: can you locate somehow the path of the icon?
[00:27] <Zorael> katoda: hum.
[00:27] <katoda> Zorael: got it
[00:28] <Zorael> katoda: Ah, cheers
[00:28] <katoda> . /usr/share/icons/oxygen/64x64/actions/system-restart.png
[00:28] <katoda> but it still doesn't show
[00:28] <terettes15> can anyone help me please
[00:28] <katoda> I think it is something in config
[00:28] <Zorael> It's supposed to be named system-reboot.png
[00:28] <Zorael> katoda: so reinstall the package
[00:28] <katoda> terettes15: what happened
[00:28] <katoda> Zorael: I've done this
[00:29] <Zorael> mmkay, then make a symbolic link. :3 "ln -s //usr/share/icons/oxygen/64x64/actions/system-restart.png /usr/share/icons/oxygen/64x64/actions/system-reboot.png"
[00:29] <terettes15> i dl this codecs and it opened up on wine now i cant close it out
[00:29] <togetic> Zorael: alright, so... any other use can login except for my own
[00:29] <togetic> s/use/user*
[00:29] <katoda> Zorael: I have kde-icons-oxygen from 4.2.4
[00:29] <Zorael> Sorry; "ln -s /usr/share/icons/oxygen/64x64/actions/system-restart.png /usr/share/icons/oxygen/64x64/actions/system-reboot.png"
[00:29] <katoda> yap
[00:29] <Zorael> togetic: Yeah, so something wrong with the permissions of your home dir
[00:30] <katoda> terettes15: what codec?
[00:30] <togetic> so what i would like to know is how to, after creating a new user... transfer all my files to that user's home
[00:30] <togetic> brb
[00:30] <katoda> Zorael: karmic // jaunty?
[00:30] <Zorael> katoda: Jaunty
[00:30] <Zorael> with 4.3b2 from ppas
[00:30] <katoda> Zorael: what version of kde-icons-oxygen do you have?
[00:30] <terettes15> its a avsvideo converter
[00:31] <Zorael> katoda: Regardless, yours is named system-restart, right? And it doesn't show for you.
[00:31] <katoda> I have 4.2.4, not 4.2.90
[00:31] <Zorael> katoda: Mine is system-reboot, and shows.
[00:31] <Zorael> 4.2.85
[00:31] <togetic> so, instead of creating a new user, maybe we can try figuring out what's wrong with the permissions
[00:31] <Zorael> togetic: can you create files in your home dir now?
[00:32] <togetic> Zorael: i can create files
[00:32] <terettes15> to be precise its avs video converter6.2
[00:32] <Zorael> togetic: can you navigate into directories? like, cd ~/.kde?
[00:33] <togetic> Zorael: yes
[00:33] <togetic> but again, my paths are screwed, and for each screen i have to "export PATH=/usr/bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin"
[00:34] <Zorael> ah, right
[00:34] <Shadoze> Does anyone know if there a foss alterantive to the nvidia drivers?
[00:34] <togetic> Shadoze: yes, but for their drivers work better
[00:34] <togetic> unfortunately
[00:35] <togetic> -"for"
[00:35] <Zorael> togetic: You do have a PATH defined in /etc/environment, I assume?
[00:35] <katoda> Zorael: which kde ppa do You use
[00:35] <togetic> sure, and i have them set in .bashrc
[00:35] <Shadoze> In what way? Better 3d support ect..?
[00:35] <togetic> oh wait
[00:35] <togetic> nm
[00:36] <togetic> no i don't will have to do that
[00:36] <togetic> anywho, so that's resolved
[00:36] <togetic> now... user permissions
[00:36] <Zorael> well, my .bashrc doesn't have any PATH definitions, either
[00:36] <togetic> btw, i can't think you enough for taking the time to help me Zorael
[00:36] <katoda> Shadoze: what's wrong in binary nvidia drivers?
[00:36] <Zorael> I just inherit from /etc/environment
[00:36] <Zorael> (et al)
[00:36] <Zorael> :3
[00:36] <togetic> i don't know why it's not inheriting them
[00:37]  * togetic may go for a good game of open arena after this one
[00:37] <Zorael> katoda: I use a bunch, not really sure what's from which, heh
[00:37] <Shadoze> The less closed source blobs i have on my system the better, i was curious into the alteratives
[00:38] <Zorael> togetic: I imagine you can read files from your home dir, as well? I mean, cat ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals
[00:38] <togetic> Shadoze: the drawing of the graphics is much better all around w/ the nvidia drivers
[00:38] <Shadoze> Sadly i didn't buy the pc i'm using so i didn't get to choose it's hardware either :S
[00:38] <togetic> yup
[00:38] <togetic> Zorael ^
[00:39] <Zorael> togetic: Can you write into /tmp?
[00:39] <katoda> Zorael: zw, I'll try to relog
[00:39] <togetic> Zorael: yes
[00:39] <terettes15> i need to close something out but its not letting me closeitout
[00:39] <Zorael> I'd try renaming .kde to .kde-backup, and let kdm recreate its settings.
[00:40] <togetic> alright
[00:40] <Shadoze> Hmm, that's sad to hear :(
[00:40] <Zorael> togetic: If it works, then you at least have a DE running
[00:40] <Zorael> I mean KDE recreate its settings*
[00:41] <katoda> Zorael: I have my icon back :)
[00:41]  * katoda thanks Zorael for his help :)
[00:41] <Zorael> katoda: There you go :3
[00:41] <togetic> Zorael: i did that and it still went back to the login screen
[00:42] <Zorael> togetic: So you get to the login screen, log in, and then it returns you back to it?
[00:42] <togetic> right
[00:42] <Zorael> and this is with .kde renamed?
[00:42] <togetic> right, Zorael
[00:43] <terettes15> nevermind i got it
[00:43] <LoreCaster_Nappi> is anyone able to help me figure out how to run a canon imageCLASS d760 printer in linux (even with base-functionality), with no linux-drivers built for the device?
[00:43] <togetic> there is..
[00:43] <togetic> ~/.kd4
[00:43] <togetic> ~/.kde4
[00:43] <togetic> i should rename that
[00:43] <Zorael> togetic: which release are you running?
[00:43] <togetic> same results
[00:44] <togetic> hmm, lsb_release says 'no lsb modules available'
[00:44] <togetic> jaunty
[00:44] <togetic> i upgraded about 2 weeks ago
[00:45] <katoda> LoreCaster_Nappi: won't be possible
[00:45] <togetic> does kdm have a log?
[00:45] <Zorael> togetic: /var/log/kdm.log
[00:45] <katoda> LoreCaster: there is no info about such printer in openprinting.org, what means it doesn't work
[00:45] <Zorael> togetic: and Xorg.0.log
[00:45] <togetic> right, i had found it
[00:46] <togetic> nothing there so far
[00:46] <Zorael> togetic: well, something is making it crash or otherwise log out. *I* would try to migrate your settings over to a new user, since you said that only your user seems borked somehow
[00:47] <togetic> right
[00:47] <togetic> but would i just do cp -r ~/.kde* /home/newuser
[00:47] <Zorael> togetic: starting by copying the whole .kde folder
[00:47] <togetic> after creating it
[00:47] <togetic> i'll try that
[00:47] <Zorael> togetic: cp -rv /home/olduser/.kde /home/newuser
[00:48] <Zorael> togetic: add the v to get it to be verbose and show you that it's actually doing stuff
[00:48] <Zorael> and
[00:48] <Zorael> you'll need to change ownership after that
[00:48] <Zorael> togetic: sudo chown newuser:group /home/newuser/.kde -rv
[00:48] <Zorael> sorry; -Rv
[00:51] <togetic> chown invalid option --r
[00:51] <togetic> invalid option -- 'r'
[00:51] <togetic> **
[00:51] <togetic> it doesn't understand -r
[00:52] <togetic> Zorael ^
[00:52] <Zorael> make it capital R, so -Rv
[00:53] <togetic> ah, too late
[00:54] <togetic> i already did 'sudo mv ~/.kde* /home/newuser'
[00:54] <togetic> guess i need to change the permissions so that the new user can access the files...
[00:54] <Zorael> togetic: Well, works too, though you won't have a backup
[00:54] <Zorael> togetic: yeah, sudo chown newuser:group /home/newuser/.kde -Rv
[00:56] <togetic> done
[00:56] <togetic> now i need to add the new user to the sudoers
[00:56] <carolija> Hello all !  I have volume ext3 and that is other HDD but I want to all space be in /home/  I have to Unmount it or .. ?
[00:56] <carolija> like this is confusing little space here little there ...
[00:56] <togetic> sudo sudoedit /etc/sudoers
[00:56] <togetic> ?..
[00:57] <Zorael> um
[00:57] <Zorael> togetic: Just make sure he's in the admin group
[00:57] <togetic> right, how?
[00:57] <carolija> I'd like all the space to be one one place
[00:57] <togetic> sorries :P
[00:57] <togetic> carolija: have you tried fdisk yet? mk.ext2 -j
[00:57] <carolija> both HDD to put into one basically
[00:58] <togetic> mkfs.ext2*
[00:58] <togetic> er, mkfs.ext3
[00:58] <carolija> togetic, no i didn't coz i didnt know about it
[00:58] <ramses> hello evrybody
[00:58] <carolija> i type it like this : mk.ext2 -j  ?
[00:58] <carolija> togetic,
[00:59] <Zorael> togetic: sudo adduser username group, I think
[01:00] <ramses> somebody from germany here ?
[01:00] <carolija> !germany
[01:00] <togetic> carolija: oh, okay, make a backup if you are inclined to do so because you are about wipe your disk, then do  sudo fdisk /dev/<yourhdd>, use 'd' to delete any partitions you have on the drive, then do w and hit enter through all the prompts to write to the entire hdd, not sure if you are wanting to boot from the partition, but if you are, you will need to make it bootable in fdisk as well, write your changes using "w" and quit, then you do mkfs.ext3
[01:01] <togetic> gracias Zorael
[01:02] <carolija> togetic,  Okay ill do that
[01:02] <carolija> thank you, so it's not so easy
[01:02] <carolija> like i think of
[01:05] <togetic> carolija: it's easy the more you do it, just like compiling a kernel :)
[01:05] <carolija> togetic, am i lose all data what I have ?
[01:05] <Serpardum> carolija: yes
[01:05] <carolija> damn
[01:06] <carolija> i must ?
[01:06] <carolija> there is no other way to put the movies and music on same safe place ?
[01:06] <carolija> because there is a lot :|
[01:06] <Serpardum> you can copy them
[01:06] <Serpardum> move them
[01:06] <carolija> where ?
[01:06] <Serpardum> How many partiions do you hav?
[01:07] <Serpardum> *partiions
[01:07] <Serpardum> grrr. partitions
[01:07] <carolija> Just Volume (ext3)
[01:07] <Serpardum> so what is this little here little there you were talking about?
[01:07] <carolija> and wan i click on it he ask for password
[01:07] <Serpardum> different folders?
[01:08] <carolija> i hate that one too lol
[01:08] <carolija> yes
[01:08] <carolija> diferent folders
[01:08] <Zorael> togetic: I'm off, good luck.
[01:08] <Serpardum> Oh, then don't partition
[01:08] <carolija> they are like same, but diferent data is in it
[01:08] <Serpardum> yes.  folders keep data seperate, easier to find
[01:08] <carolija> for example if I made into /home/ dir movies
[01:08] <Serpardum> music goes in like /user/me/music etc..
[01:08] <Serpardum> right
[01:08] <Serpardum> those are called "folders"
[01:09] <Serpardum> Now, what is the difficulty you are having with your folders?
[01:09] <carolija> i will see the /home/movies/ into Volume (etc3) also but without movies , just the folder
[01:09] <Serpardum> mkdir just maks the directory
[01:09] <Serpardum> then you have to copy or move the files
[01:09] <Serpardum> mv soemfolder/* /home/movies/
[01:09] <Serpardum> that will move them
[01:10] <Serpardum> copy woudl be: cp somefolder/* /home/movies
[01:10] <Serpardum> sometimes it's better to copy and delete and then move
[01:10] <Serpardum> er, than move
[01:10] <carolija> ok
[01:10] <Serpardum> wow, I just can't talk today
[01:11] <carolija> the main problem is that i want all the space to be in one place i don't need little bit in here and little bit in there
[01:11] <carolija> what i told you about mkdir
[01:12] <carolija> that happening in my deafault /home/ and i see the same folder in other HDD but with no files in it
[01:12] <carolija> so i don't need that other HDD to be separated
[01:13] <togetic> Zorael: so after doing sudo mv ~/.* /home/newuser and then doing sudo chown newuser:newuser /home/newuser/.* -Rv i have the same problem of logging into that user using kdm
[01:13] <carolija> i'd jkust like to use all space in /home/ directories
[01:13] <carolija> if you understand me now ?
[01:13] <carolija> Serpardum,
[01:13] <togetic> oh, i didn't see that he left
[01:19] <Serpardum> you can move folders too
[01:20] <carolija> yes i can move folders too but i want to make like one HDD not 2 (like i have)
[01:22] <carolija> What is this option with right click on HDD Volume ext3 --> Unmount "Volume ext3"
[01:30] <togetic> he/she*
[01:30] <max_> !dvd
[01:43] <max_> Hi, I'm trying to burn a video dvd with Brasero, and when i click "burn" it says "it is not possoble to write with the current set of plugins" What plugins do i need to burn this?
[01:46] <tomsdale> how can I override a dns entry for my browser? The /etc/hosts don't work.
[01:48] <Telengard> tomsdale : Can you 'ping localhost' ?
[01:49] <tomsdale> Telengard: thx for help. I've been on this for 3 days now. Yes I can ping localhost. responds with <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:49] <tomsdale> I can also ping the hostname I put in the /etc/hosts but all kde apps seem to just ignore it.
[01:49] <Telengard> Then /etc/hosts must be working, because that is where 'localhost' is defined.
[01:50] <Telengard> when you ping the manually entered hostnames do you get responses from the expected IP addys?
[01:51] <tomsdale> yes, I just added a bogus name behind IP and it responds also. Everything seems fine with the base system, just not the desktop apps.
[01:52] <Telengard> Which apps are not behaving as expected? What are you inputting?
[01:52] <tomsdale> background is that I need to recover a hacked website adminpanel which has been blacklisted. But I can't access a vhost by it's IP address. It needs the domain name to respond.
[01:53] <tomsdale> with blacklisted I mean it has been marked by google and removed from all DNS server I know.
[01:54] <lpmanglinong> hello
[01:55] <tomsdale> hi
[01:59] <lpmanglinong> what country are you from timsdale?..
[01:59] <tomsdale> lpmanglinong: Canada,
[02:00] <lpmanglinong> ok
[02:00] <vivek> hello
[02:00] <lpmanglinong> at home?.
[02:01] <vivek> I'm having some trouble with KDM crashing on lonout
[02:01] <vivek> *logout
[02:01] <vivek> would anyone be able to help me with this?
[02:01] <vivek> (or maybe it's the X server crashing)
[02:02] <lpmanglinong> im sorry.. just a newbie.. ^_^
[02:02] <vivek> me too
[02:03] <lpmanglinong> maybe tomsdale can help you..
[02:05] <tomsdale> vivek: check the /etc/init.d/Xorg.1.log for clues what happens on logoung
[02:12] <vivek> there's no file named Xorg.1.log in /etc/init.d
[02:13] <vivek> do i need to enable logging somewhere?
[02:14] <vivek> found it in /var/log/
[02:20] <nikitis> So how do i go to init 3?
[02:26] <tomsdale> vivek: sorry - I meant /var/log
[02:27] <tomsdale> vivek: you have an intel card?
[02:28] <tomsdale> There were problems with the current intel driver but there is supposed to be a driver update soon. I had problems on NVidia as well but rolled back a version and since then it'S stable
[02:28] <vivek> yes
[02:31] <tomsdale> TBH I don't know how drivers work in intel land. I thought they were included in Xorg
[02:34] <tomsdale> I think I read there was some sort of update on the way which is supposed to fix a lot of intel issues.
[02:36] <vivek_ap> hopefully that fixes it!  thanks!
[02:39] <Zorix> Where can I get a newer build of Kopete for Kubuntu 9.04?  The msn support is real bad and I would like to try newer code
[02:42] <halberd> Paper, light--great console scheme
[02:43] <t3rminat0r> guys, in orfer for a script to be bootable
[02:43] <t3rminat0r> it should be at the /etc/init.d/
[02:43] <t3rminat0r> only?
[02:43] <tomsdale> Zorix: did they do it again. msn seems to have to change their protocol everytime.
[02:44] <Zorix> tomsdale,  well its just that certain people can't message me it only shows they are typing and never shows up on my screen..made me believe for about 2 months that certain people were ignoring me
[02:45] <Zorix> i read somewhere that wlm support was rather poor
[02:46] <Pici> !boot | t3rminat0r
[02:46] <Zorix> everything works with pidgin except it wont notify the taskbar that i have a new message so i never know whats going on.. so between both of them... instant messaging is sucking
[02:46] <vivek_ap> re: intel/xorg freeze on logout - it appears to be fixed in the .30 kernel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/364508
[02:46] <vivek_ap> thanks
[02:48] <Zorix> i'm out of luck aren't i?
[02:51] <nikitis> Can someone tell me why in terminal I see a "$" for my prompt instead of "nikitis@ubuntu $"?
[02:58] <dhendu9411> hello all
[02:59] <dhendu9411> does anyone know how to turn off the auto horizontal scrolling in dolphin?  Its driving me crazy!
[03:02] <Zorix> when is 4.3 arriving in kubutu backports.. i need to disable the updates on a few remote machines
[03:03] <ricardo__> guys
[03:03] <ricardo__> fast question
[03:03] <ricardo__> xdcc send doesn't seem to work on quassel
[03:03] <ricardo__> is this correct?
[03:04] <Zorix> i must ask some hard questions here
[03:05] <nikitis> Why is bash not loading up when i start a konsole?
[03:06] <Zengol> Could someone give me some info on a benchmark comparison of 8.10 - 9.04?
[03:09] <Serpardum> can I sort an ls by date?
[03:09] <Serpardum> can't find it in ls --help
[03:09] <Serpardum> I see -S is size
[03:09] <Serpardum> -R is reverse
[03:10] <Serpardum> er, -r is reverse
[03:11] <Serpardum> hmm.. --sort=c maybe
[03:12] <Serpardum> -t
[03:12] <Serpardum> okay, got it
[03:13] <oobe> ls -lt
[03:13] <pulaski> Hello, I'm also on the kde channel but I can't get a response.  I'm running jaunty and kde4.  I've removed the kicker panel along the bottom of the desktop in error but panel help does not offer a clue how to restore it.  Can anyone offer any suggestionS? eg where in help to look for something like this or better yet has anyone had to do this before?
[03:13] <Zorix> its a plasma widget
[03:15] <Serpardum> right click, add widget
[03:15] <oobe> simple work around mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.old the restart the desktop
[03:15] <Serpardum> er, add panel then add widets to it?  one of those
[03:16] <Zorix> you lose all settings that way oobe
[03:16] <oobe> yeah i know
[03:16] <Serpardum> oooh, I have a ~/.kde/Autostart?  cool
[03:17] <Zorix> pulaski,  if you dont have the panel, right click on desktop and add panel, then right click on panel and add widget to add all the widgets back if necessary
[03:21] <pulaski> Zorix: Thanks for responding.  I have a panel to which I can applets but I can' put applications on it.  I understand icons to run applications can only appear on the "Kicker" panel.  I need to make the panel behave like the Kicker panel.
[03:25] <Zorix> right click on application and select add to panel
[03:32] <halberd> could someone do me a favor? please open konsole, start a screen session, open emacs -nw, and press ctrl-left
[03:32] <halberd> does it output funny characters?
[03:35] <pulaski> Zorix: Thanks I've solved my problem.  It seems it the panel appears on the bottom portion of the desktop that seems to designae it as the "Kicker" panel.  This must be true becaues I can add and remove applications as well as applets from it.
[03:35] <Serpardum> no, ikt tells me emacs is not installed :D
[03:36] <Serpardum> let me install emacs
[03:36] <pulaski> Problem solve.  Goodnight for now.
[03:38] <Serpardum> I run emacs -nw  I press ctrl-left arrow and it just jumps to top/left corner
[03:38] <Serpardum> it goes to the start of hte previous word
[03:38] <Serpardum> although I never loaded a file
[03:39] <Serpardum> nwo I have to remember how to exit emacs :/
[03:39] <Serpardum> got it
[03:40] <halberd> hmm
[03:40] <halberd> that's not the problem I'm having
[03:41] <halberd> when I do it, it outputs the text "5D"
[03:41] <Serpardum> *shrug*
[03:41] <Serpardum> sounds like it's screwed up for you
[03:41] <halberd> yes but I want to fix it
[03:41] <Serpardum> why don't you uninstall emacs and resinstall it?
[03:41] <halberd> I think the problem is screen
[03:41] <halberd> because it doesn't happen when emacs is run outside of a screen session
[03:42] <Serpardum> define "screen session"?
[03:42] <halberd> ah... before you enter emacs in the konsole, do the command "screen"
[03:42] <Serpardum> I don't know what a screen session is so maybe I didn't do it
[03:43] <halberd> then type emacs -nw
[03:43] <Serpardum> now ctrl-left does nothing for me
[03:43] <halberd> but you don't get the 5D?
[03:44] <Serpardum> 5D where?
[03:44] <halberd> entered into the emacs window
[03:44] <Serpardum> I never loaded a file
[03:44] <Serpardum> oh, wait ^5d?
[03:44] <nikitis> what all do i need to do to get flash working with konquerer?  I downloaded and ran flashplugin-installer.  Do i need to turn on javascript?
[03:44] <Serpardum> is it ^5D or soemthing
[03:44] <halberd> on mine it's just 5D
[03:44] <halberd> with no caret
[03:44] <Serpardum> I think that screen mode isn't handeling the ctrl-left, so it's accepted as character scan codes
[03:45] <Serpardum> which happen to be 5D
[03:45] <Serpardum> since I don't have any editing going on, I dont see them, emacs ignore them
[03:45] <halberd> you'd be in a scratch buffer
[03:45] <halberd> so if it was producing them you would see them
[03:45] <Serpardum> I have the help text on line
[03:45] <Serpardum> "Welcome to GNU Emacs..." etc..
[03:46] <halberd> well try ctrl-x b, then type *scratch*
[03:46] <Serpardum> yep, now I get the 5D
[03:46] <Serpardum> like I said, in screen mode emacs obviously isn't accepting ctrl-left arrow as a command, so it accepts them as characters.
[03:47] <Serpardum> ctrl-up would do it too
[03:47] <halberd> yeah all the arrow keys
[03:47] <Serpardum> those numbers are the scan codes being interpreted as characters
[03:47] <Serpardum> Or hex or soemthing
[03:47] <Serpardum> since emacs normally handles them it doesn't mask them
[03:48] <Serpardum> So the moral of the story is: don't hit ctrl-left in emacs in screen mode ^^
[03:48] <halberd> well, it's a problem for me because that's a navigation command I want
[03:48] <Serpardum> you might have to do somethign like enter vt100 mode or something
[03:49] <halberd> looking in the screen manual it says that ctrl-up, for example, is translated to \033[A
[03:49] <halberd> and ctrl-left to \033[D, and so on
[03:49] <halberd> er i mean just left, and up
[03:49] <halberd> not ctrl-left or ctrl-up
[03:49] <Serpardum> \033 is escape.
[03:49] <Serpardum> those are ANSI codes
[A
[03:50] <Serpardum> what does -nw mean anyway?
[03:50] <halberd> it means no window, ie no graphical mode
[03:51] <halberd> any idea what I might do to fix this?
[03:51] <Serpardum> try google "emacs screen ctrl-left not working"
[03:53] <halberd> it's odd that it doesn't output 5D or whatever if I do it from a bash prompt
[03:54] <halberd> or from in nano
[03:55] <Serpardum> Here you go: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash/+bug/89235
[03:57] <ogre_> im trying to uninstall a copy of vmware workstation 6.5 on jaunty. any suggestions on how to do since there is no uninstaller?
[03:59] <oscarinabox> *facepalm* i just installed jaunty on this old g4 imac i have that can barely run tiger, and as soon as it boot i accidently hit the shortcut to switch desktops and i dont know how to switch back to workspace one
[03:59] <oscarinabox> any help?
[03:59] <Serpardum> it'sll umm.. ctrl something
[03:59] <Serpardum> was it ctrl-1?
[03:59] <Serpardum> try ctrl-f1
[04:00] <oscarinabox> didnt work
[04:00] <Serpardum> just did for me.  hmm
[04:00] <oscarinabox> it booted and i saw the taskbar
[04:00] <solid_liq> !ping
[04:00] <oscarinabox> and then i changed the volume
[04:00] <oscarinabox> because the startup sound was blasting
[04:00] <Serpardum> maybe you should just reboot
[04:00] <oscarinabox> yeah
[04:02] <lpmanglinong> hi, im at the office.. and one of the computer here cant connect to the internet.. when i open the browser it just loads too long and after that it displays "address not found, browser cannot find the server at www.xxx.com" (for example).. what should i do?.. pls help me..
[04:04] <e-jat> can someone help me on this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/192900/
[04:06] <Serpardum> try sudo apt-get install phonon  ?
[04:06] <ForgeAus> when is (or is it already?) the proper native google chrome being released for linux? ... I've got the "chromium browser" (basically the beta vers)
[04:07] <e-jat> Serpardum: im reinstalling the kdelib5-dev ..
[04:08] <e-jat> hope it will help
[04:08] <halberd> Serpardum: hmm this is a similar problem but I don't think it's exactly the same
[04:08] <Serpardum> did you try their solutions?
[04:08] <robotgeek> e-jat: try reinstalling the phonon libraries, and the dev packages
[04:08] <e-jat> robotgeek: ok .. thanks .. reinstalling it ..
[04:08] <BluesKaj> gonna be a while , ForgeAus..google is looking for lotsa feedback from open source devs before giving us anymore
[04:09] <robotgeek> e-jat: not sure if it will work, but it is worth a shot. maybe something funky happened during the first install
[04:09] <halberd> yes Serpardum
[04:09] <halberd> the export INPUTRC=/etc/inputrc doesn't make a difference
[04:10] <halberd> my problem is not precisely the same, it has to do with the combination of emacs + screen
[04:10] <halberd> it's not bash or readline
[04:10] <halberd> I don't think emacs uses readline
[04:11] <ForgeAus> BluesKaj, unfortunately I'm not an opensource dev....
[04:11] <e-jat> robotgeek: ill try .. thanks
[04:11] <halberd> maybe it's an emacs configuration thing
[04:12] <ForgeAus> (it looks as if they've gone GTK+ too which is bad)
[04:12] <halberd> because I'm in irssi now and I don't have the problem they described
[04:12] <ForgeAus> I'm starting to think linux is suffering by not having a single basic widgetset :(...
[04:13] <robotgeek> ForgeAus: choice is good :)
[04:13] <ForgeAus> robotgeek I agree... for the most part, at least generally...
[04:14] <ForgeAus> but its starting to be problematic in some ways... apps like firefox and chrome using gtk makes them ugly in KDE...
[04:16] <halberd> I'm going to try upgrading emacs to 22.3
[04:16] <halberd> it's at 22.1.1 now
[04:17] <ForgeAus> is there a repo with kde3.5 remix?
[04:29] <stephane> Hello
[04:33] <ForgeAus> anyone interested in kde 3 remixes for kubuntu (intrepid or Jaunty) - http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/install.html has repos for current installations... (theres also downloadable remix CD's but you have to go to the main site there to find them)
[04:34] <ForgeAus> oh actually looks like http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/ has links to both... much easier
[04:36] <lpmanglinong> need help.. "../firefox.desktop
[04:37] <lpmanglinong> need help.. "../firefox.desktop' is malformatted."
[04:37] <Guest27914> Hi, I have a HP g60 laptop, it has an nvidia geforce 8200. The geforce has a max resolution of like 2500 something. But the highest resolution i can select is 1366x768. Is there anyway i can force a larger resolution?
[04:42] <trappist> man I hate to say it, but I think I want intrepid back
[04:43] <ForgeAus> you don't like jaunty?
[04:43] <ForgeAus> I havn't gone to jaunty yet
[04:47] <Serpardum> apt-cache search vmware   doesnt' come back with vmware.  can we use it?
[04:49] <ForgeAus> you can...
[04:49] <ForgeAus> you might need to download it from vmware's site itself
[04:49] <Serpardum> yeah, now I remember, only vmware player is free
[04:49] <ForgeAus> go to #vmware for more information, I think its just not a part of Ubuntu repositories
[04:49] <ForgeAus> (serp not even sure the player is in the repos anymore)
[04:50] <ForgeAus> there are free versions of vmware however it isn't opensource afaik... (maybe the player is I don't know)
[04:50] <ForgeAus> I know for vmware server itself you can get a free version, however you need to register
[04:50] <digdeep> may try vritual box
[04:50] <ForgeAus> yeah virtualbox is another option that is free
[04:51] <Serpardum> I have virtualbox running in vista (that's what I'm running kubuntu in)
[04:51] <ForgeAus> (although since sun took that over I didn't really like virtualbox)
[04:51] <Serpardum> I"m thing is tryign to get a native video driver going for some vm I can run in linux
[04:51] <ForgeAus> lol Serp, you want to run an os inside an os inside an os inside an os?
[04:51] <Serpardum> no, just an os inside an os inside an os
[04:51] <ForgeAus> lol
[04:52] <Serpardum> The reason is when I run my OS in virtualbox, virtualbox locks up eating up 50% of my cpu and wont exit until I reboot
[04:52] <ForgeAus> hmmm I should try running something like Amstrad CPC inside a MacOS inside Win98 inside Linux inside WinXP inside MacOSX ... or something
[04:53] <ForgeAus> ouch
[04:53] <digdeep> why?
[04:53] <ForgeAus> virtualbox should eat up a chunk of ram, not sure about cpu thats possible... but I don't like it not exiting...
[04:53] <ForgeAus> I think to exit you have to first stop the virtual machine
[04:53] <ForgeAus> (ie shutdown the guest OS to exit virtualbox)
[04:54] <ForgeAus> virtual machines don't tend to like quitting while the guest is still running
[04:54] <Serpardum> yeah, but I think I'm not shutting down my os properly and virtualbox doesn't like that
[04:54] <Serpardum> qemu doesn't care
[04:55] <Serpardum> I just do a "hlt" right now
[04:55] <ForgeAus> why is there so many different packages for sun's virtualbox, one for different kernel versions, etc... :(
[04:56] <ForgeAus> Qemu is better imho, only you need to have some understand to be able to use it... for the most part...
[04:56] <ForgeAus> if your in MacOSX ever I recommend using VMware Fusion (only its commercial) in Unity mode...
[04:58] <Serpardum> I just have to find something that will help me write native drivers for qemu :/
[04:58] <ForgeAus> uh go to #Qemu ? they might be able to help
[04:59] <max_789>  Hi, I have a HP g60 laptop (running kubuntu 9.04), it has an nvidia geforce 8200. The geforce has a max resolution of like 2500 something. But the highest resolution i can select is 1366x768. Is there anyway i can force a larger resolution?
[05:02] <Serpardum> look at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:06] <Fridrik85> hola
[05:07] <Fridrik85> quien sabe algo sobre ubunutu¿?
[05:07] <Fridrik85> soy nuevo
[05:07] <Fridrik85> no tengo audio
[05:07] <Fridrik85> alguien sabe por que es¿?
[05:09] <homer_K> hi
[05:09] <Fridrik85> hi
[05:14] <Fridrik85> para que estan todos conectados si nadie contesta¿?
[05:20] <tomsdale> uuups - I just accidently upgraded to KDE 4.3 beta ...
[05:22] <Serpardum> wtf, why does konqueror display a .rar file intead of asking me to save it/
[05:24] <tomsdale> Konqueror seems not to be getting much love these days.
[05:25] <Serpardum> now konqueror crashed
[05:27] <tomsdale> what do you have under Settings file management - File associations.  search for rar on the left
[05:28] <tomsdale> I don't use Konqueror anymore - I think Dolphin is better for file management. But never got deep into Konqueror either.
[05:29] <nikitis> my only issue with conquerer is it's speed.  could use some speed improvements
[05:29] <nikitis> konq*
[05:29] <tomsdale> I think it's single threaded which weights on it's performance.
[05:30] <Serpardum> I find no rar in associations
[05:30] <tomsdale> try creating one and associate it with ark.
[05:30] <Serpardum> okay, I searced for rar and I found x-rar, x-shared-libary-la, x-shardlib, x-psflib
[05:31] <tomsdale> yeah - that's it.
[05:31] <tomsdale> should have ark as application to open it with.
[05:31] <DarkriftX> i installed google chrome, and on the install page it says that it installs the "repos" so that it can update itself. I assumed it meant apt repos but I dont see anything that looks like them in adept under the 3rd party software tab. anyone know where I would find them?
[05:31] <Serpardum> and x-rar is associated with ark
[05:31] <DarkriftX> kubuntu 8.04 btw
[05:33] <DarkriftX> "Installing Google Chrome will add the Google repository so your system will automatically keep Chrome up to date. (If you don't want Google's repository, do "sudo touch /etc/defaults/google-chrome" before installing the package.) "
[05:33] <tomsdale> Serpardum: If I do this with a .rar file it brings up a dialog and asks me to open it with Ark.
[05:34] <tomsdale> I just upgraded accidentally to Kde 4.3 beta though as well. but here it seems to behave
[05:36] <tomsdale> actually there are some nice details in 4.3 . Nothing mind blowing so far but looks like some usability improvements.
[05:40] <DarkriftX> if I am on kubuntu 8.04 would "deb http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/ stable main" work or should i change "stable" to "hardy" to match the rest of mine?
[05:41] <oobe> Possibly niether
[05:42] <DarkriftX> it said this requires ubuntu 8.04 or later so it should work
[05:42] <DarkriftX> i just dont know enough about the repo config
[05:43] <DarkriftX> i opened the install script, found the key and installed that from adept, but not sure how the repo line should look
[05:43] <oobe> stable is debian like
[05:43] <oobe> but that might work
[05:43] <DarkriftX> would that work though?
[05:43] <DarkriftX> oh
[05:45] <oobe> http://www.google.com/linuxrepositories/apt.html
[05:45] <tomsdale> what is a good dock mac OSX style in KDE? Wanna give it a try
[05:47] <DarkriftX> W: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/dists/hardy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  404 Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[05:48] <tomsdale> DarkriftX: it's simple, the url does't exist. try the debian .deb if you have to have the version or search on getdeb
[05:49] <DarkriftX> i installed it via the .deb but it gets updates almost daily
[05:49] <tomsdale> http://www.getdeb.net/
[05:49] <DarkriftX> for soem reason instaling hte .deb didnt seem to add the repos like it said it would
[05:49] <DarkriftX> i am trying to fix that
[05:49] <tomsdale> you probably have the PPA of development branch.
[05:50] <DarkriftX> nice, think i got it
[05:50] <DarkriftX> picasa is installing now, so i think so
[05:50] <tomsdale> getdeb allows you to download binaries without having to add additional repositories
[05:51] <DarkriftX> i want the repos though. i want adept to tell me if there is an update daily
[05:52] <ForgeAus> I don't understand, why isn't adept showing me kde3 modules, (Apt-get recognises them but adept doesn't??)
[05:54] <DarkriftX> thanks oobe and tomsdale
[05:54] <DarkriftX> its working and there are already updates from a few hours ago
[05:58] <digdeep> I asked how to use ktorrent in command line yesterday. I found it and put them here (in case you are interested) --> http://thdonline.wordpress.com/2009/06/11/work-with-ktorrent-in-command-line/
[06:14] <Kubou> Is this working?
[06:16] <sebastian> hola, neseito ayuda con mi kubuntu 8.10
[06:21] <ollawei> ist da wer
[06:39] <lpmanglinong_> test
[06:56] <SilentDis> !iptables
[07:06] <max_45> Hi, i seem to be having a problem with audio playback. It keeps skipping and jumping around during playback. This happens with amarok, youtube videos. Does anyone know what would cause this skipping around?
[07:19] <SilentDis> bit of an odd one here... I just got a router with SNMP functionality, and I'd like to start exploring it.  can anyone recommend some good 'beginner tools' to check this tech out?  (kubuntu 9.04)
[07:22] <Serpardum> what is an ".so" file?
[07:24] <SilentDis> Serpardum: a dynamic library file.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamic_library
[07:26] <Serpardum> now how woudl I find the source code to it/?  specifically /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/cirrus_drv.so
[07:27] <SilentDis> Serpardum: did you compile a cirrus driver?
[07:27] <billing> j
[07:28] <ForgeAus> uh how to get rpmstrap for Ubuntu?
[07:28] <ForgeAus> apt-get doesn't seem to find it
[07:28] <ForgeAus> !rpmstrap
[07:28] <ForgeAus> !info rpmstrap
[07:28] <ForgeAus> apparently gutsy had it
[07:28] <ForgeAus> but I'm using intrepid
[07:33] <SilentDis> !snmp
[07:34] <ForgeAus> !info snmp
[07:35] <ForgeAus> !help
[07:39] <ForgeAus> !info rpmstrap gutsy
[07:40] <ForgeAus> what gutsy isn't valid as a distro! I don't get it
[07:40] <ForgeAus> !info rpmstrap hardy
[07:40] <ForgeAus> then again neither is fiesty edgy or most of the others there either I guess
[07:42] <iphony> xsane says it scanned but me no see  scanned image....what gives???
[07:43] <ForgeAus> and dapper is only there because it was the old LTS version I guess
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> !7.10
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> its not valid because its dead
[07:51] <ActionParsnip> iphony: check where the save location is in xsane
[07:52] <ForgeAus> !eol
[07:52] <iphony> well, i know where it saves thing is i am supposed to see preview of scanned doc
[07:54] <ActionParsnip> iphony: i'm unsure. I havent used a scanner since college (about 11 years ago)
[07:56] <iphony> yeah, and i am just using it to test out ubuntu...and i don't think i will recomend it to any of my customers..too many steps to accomplish simple tasks
[07:58] <ActionParsnip> well its more the fact that it makes garbage debs that can break stuff
[08:01] <esperegu> everytime when there is an update and I click on the update icon kubuntu crashes. any ideas where to find info regarding to this?
[08:05] <jontec> k, so... I am not sure if this is a driver problem or not, but I cannot set the key on my wireless card via `sudo iwconfig <device> key <hex key>`; NetworkManager can find the WEP-encrypted network, but cannot connect to it... I get repeated prompts and I am assuming that this is for the same reason. Using the proprietary drivers recommended by Kubuntu Jaunty.
[08:06] <jontec> Should take the ndiswrapper method rather than use the recommended drivers?
[08:06] <jontec> Should I*
[08:07] <jontec> the error I receive is Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :
[08:07] <jontec>     SET failed on device eth1 ; Invalid argument.
[08:16] <leikzomg> anyone help me out with sound? any program that goes through phonon xine backend just comes out as soft static. if i send it straight to hda nvidia analog it's fine but a lot of programs go through phonon. i also get message "audio device hda nvidia... does not work" on boot or on loading amarok occasionally.
[08:27] <enoc007> spanish?
[08:28] <bazhang> !es
[08:29] <enoc007> thanks!
[08:43] <faLUCE> hi. plz tell me if this is correct. I have to format an entire (empty) HD: I create a new ext2 partition with gparted and then I choose the "format" option, and then---> ok
[08:45] <FeasibilityStudy> faLUCE why do you want to format?  And why with ext2?
[08:45] <Mamarok> faLUCE: ext3 would be more useful
[08:46] <faLUCE> thanks all
[08:46] <Mamarok> faLUCE: if you choose ext3 in gparted, once you apply it will format automatically
[09:01] <antares> good morning, how can I install joomla in ubuntu?
[09:15] <myself> hello i would like to apologize for that thing i did the other day and say i love you all.
[09:23] <Mamarok> myself: ok, but behave now!
[09:24] <myself> okay i will
[09:24] <myself> thank you
[09:24] <xevious> booo kde4
[09:24]  * xevious trolls
[09:25] <Mamarok> xevious: behave!
[09:28] <NicoFr38> hi all, is there a place where I could find information on how to sync Kontact with a Windows mobile PDA (would like to sync contacts and calandar)
[09:31] <Mamarok> NicoFr38: I don't think you can do a direct sync, as Windows uses other formats
[09:32] <Mamarok> NicoFr38: but you should be able to import those into Kontact
[09:34] <ForgeAus> is there a way to download packages via the web?
[09:35] <Mamarok> ForgeAus: not through the chat if it's that what you want
[09:35] <Mamarok> ForgeAus: there are enough sharing sites, check on Google
[09:36] <ForgeAus> no not a sharing site I'm looking for a particular .deb file so are there any web mirrors?
[09:36] <Mamarok> but if you talk about Kubuntu packages, why not use apt-get isntall packagename?
[09:36] <Mamarok> install*
[09:36] <ForgeAus> because it doesn't exist for intrepid the one I want
[09:36] <ForgeAus> it somehow didn't make the jump from gutsy ...
[09:37] <ForgeAus> (at least I know it exists in gutsy)
[09:37] <Mamarok> ForgeAus: then search for it in Google, download it with wget or similar, then you can isntall it with sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[09:37] <Mamarok> ForgeAus: what pacakge are you looking for?
[09:37] <Mamarok> Package even
[09:38] <ForgeAus> rpmstrap I want it to make a xen guest
[09:38] <ForgeAus> (normally Ubuntu uses .debs not .rpms...  so debootstrap is there, but no rpmstrap)
[09:38] <Mamarok> !info rpmstrap
[09:38] <ForgeAus> I'm not using Jaunty yet anyway
[09:38] <ForgeAus> Intrepid here still
[09:39] <Mamarok> well, that'ŝ normal, but I guess you can find it through sourceforge or similar
[09:39] <Mamarok> just google for it :)
[09:40] <ForgeAus> ahh found one, seems to work sofar
[09:41] <ForgeAus> maybe I'll just chroot instead of a hardfile or whatever xen uses... I dunno yet
[09:41] <ForgeAus> experimenting still
[09:41] <ForgeAus> still not quite sure which rpm-based distro I want... I'm thinking probably mandriva...
[09:42] <ubuntu__> hey all just recieved my kubuntu cd in the mail today
[09:42] <ForgeAus> awesome :)
[09:42] <ForgeAus> live cd or alternative one?
[09:43] <ubuntu__> cna someone please tell me how to install download codecs to play *.avi files
[09:43] <ubuntu__> forgeaus its a livecd
[09:43] <ForgeAus> even better :)
[09:43] <ubuntu__> im a complete noob to linux
[09:44] <ForgeAus> the .avi file codecs are probably in the universe repository
[09:44] <ForgeAus> you need to run adept and manage repositories
[09:44] <ForgeAus> !avi
[09:45] <ForgeAus> the thing I don't like about this is its fine to tell people to use ogg files or something, but they often don't have control over which format they use when receiving a file, its ok when making one to select a free format...
[09:49] <ubuntu__> ubottu im getting this error message protocol not supported apt
[09:55] <Guest31030> Hi, I'm having a problem. Before I upgraded to 9.04 from 8.04 when ever i plugged my mp3 player into its dock and turned it on it would show up on my desktop as a removable drive(like a thumb drive) But now that ive upgraded, when ever i plug it into its dock it never gets recognized. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[10:01] <makdaknife> Makuseru: on the command line... try run lsusb, and see if it is listed there
[10:01] <makdaknife> Makuseru: if not, try run dmesg and see what is happening when you connect the device
[10:04] <Makuseru> It is there.
[10:05] <Makuseru> And when i turn it on dmesg says "usb-storage: device found at 18"
[10:07] <ubuntu__> forgeaus can  you see my pm ?
[10:10] <ubuntu__> so can someone please help me out on how to  get avi files to play on kubuntu to a compleate linux novice
[10:10] <oobe> ubuntu__, sudo apt-get install mplayer w32codecs
[10:11] <oobe> then open the avi files using mplayer or gmplayer
[10:11] <ubuntu__> got this error message Couldn't find package mplayer
[10:12] <makdaknife> Makuseru: that's good news... probably you're just having a problem with kde indicating that the device is available
[10:12] <makdaknife> bah
[10:14] <oobe> ubuntu__, echo "deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ jaunty free non-free" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:15] <oobe> then sudo apt-get install mplayer
[10:25] <ubuntu__> oobe i went to that packages site and downloaded http://packages.medibuntu.org/pool/non-free/m/mplayer/mplayer_1.0~rc2-0ubuntu19+medibuntu1_i386.deb
[10:25] <ubuntu__> is that what i was supposed to do ?
[10:26] <bazhang> ubuntu__, you just want to install mplayer ?
[10:29] <ubuntu__> no i want to get avi files to play
[10:29] <bazhang> ubuntu__, did you install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package yet
[10:30] <ubuntu__> not sure
[10:30] <ubuntu__> i think i did
[10:30] <bazhang> you may also wish to grab the w32codecs from medibuntu.org
[10:30] <shanipribadi> ubuntu__: what kind of avi files are they?
[10:31] <ubuntu__> how do i do that
[10:31] <shanipribadi> bazhang: w32codecs is only for mplayer
[10:31] <bazhang> with the -extras package, and the w32codecs, most everything will play
[10:31] <shanipribadi> bazhang: he needs to install mplayer first right?
[10:31] <ubuntu__> tv shows shanipribadi
[10:31] <shanipribadi> ubuntu__: im sorry, what i mean is what format is it? divx? xvid?
[10:32] <ubuntu__> yeah
[10:32] <bazhang> shanipribadi, just installing kubuntu-restricted-extras and w32codecs did it for me
[10:32] <shanipribadi> ubuntu__: i only installed kubuntu-restricted-extras and it runs those videos fine.
[10:32] <bazhang> ubuntu__, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras from the konsole
[10:32] <ubuntu__> ok how do i install thhis restricted extras pacage ?
[10:33] <shanipribadi> ubuntu__: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[10:34] <ubuntu__> it cant find the package
[10:34] <shanipribadi> ubuntu__: if it still does not work, then perhaps you have to install w32codecs (i already have them cos im using mplayer for transcoding, perhaps that is why many formats work.)
[10:34] <shanipribadi> hmm..
[10:35] <ubuntu__> why cant it find the package ?
[10:35] <ubuntu__> did they take it away ?
[10:35] <shanipribadi> ubuntu__ is your ubuntu install new, perhaps you havent add the repository?
[10:35] <e-jat> how about .3gp ? can play but without sound :(
[10:35] <ubuntu__> i got the kubuntu cd in the mail today it says kubuntu 9.04 on the cover
[10:36] <ubuntu__> i havent installed it on the pc
[10:36] <ubuntu__> just running it of the cd
[10:36] <shanipribadi> e - jat: 3gp is a bit problem, the easiest fix is installing mplayer, google for "medibuntu" and follow the gudes
[10:36] <Mamarok> ubuntu__: you will have to install it and activate the repos, there is not enough space on the CD for everything
[10:37] <shanipribadi> ubuntu__: i see, you need to enable the extra repository first, open System Settings --> Add and Remove Software --> Settings --> Edit Software Sources
[10:37] <shanipribadi> ubuntu__: but i think youll need to install first
[10:37] <shanipribadi> ubuntu__: because im not sure you can install things if youre running from LiveCD
[10:39] <makdaknife> shanipribadi: afaik you can install things... but they will only be installed temporarily until you reboot
[10:39] <shanipribadi> makdaknife: then it's a waste of bandwidth and time ^_^, better instaling first to HD
[10:40] <ubuntu__> shanipribadi i went to the edit souces screen what do i change in there ?
[10:41] <makdaknife> shanipribadi: indeedy... I guess there are a few times that you might need to do this without an install... but to play a video... no...
[10:41] <shanipribadi> ubuntu__: you need to check the Software restricted by copyright or legal issues (Multiverse), then you can try instaling kubuntu-restricted-extras, but thing is, if youre running from LiveCD, you'll have to do it after every time you shutdown the computer
[10:42] <bazhang> ubuntu__, you are trying to do this on a live cd? ie not an install?
[10:43] <Mamarok> bazhang: read above...
[10:43] <ubuntu__> yeah of a live cd
[10:43] <shanipribadi> bazhang: sorry, i was wrong, apparently xine uses w32codecs too. if he's going to watch avi's then he needs those codecs too.
[10:43] <ubuntu__> guess im gonna have to install kubuntu
[10:44] <shanipribadi> ubuntu__: here's guide for w32codecs from medibuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[10:44] <ubuntu__> just wanted to play around with it before i installed it
[10:44] <bazhang> ubuntu__, not much point as a restart of live cd will erase everything; best to install first then activate the appropriate repos
[10:44] <shanipribadi> ubuntu__: suggestion from me, if youre going to install it anyway, then it's better to install first, so you dont need to go throught the hassle twice.
[10:45] <ubuntu__> yeah true shani
[10:46] <ubuntu__> didnt think it would be so complicated to install codecs
[10:46] <kraves> any idea whats the easiest way to remove kde4.3 beta and get back to 4.2.4? :p
[10:46] <ubuntu__> wish they had them installed by default
[10:46] <shanipribadi> ubuntu__: it had to do with patents, canonical cant do it legally. so that's why we have to do it ourselves
[10:47] <shanipribadi> kraves: try checking the forum ,i remember someone made a guide about it. but the basic steps were remove the kubuntu-backports ppa, and then force downgrade things
[10:48] <ubuntu__> i read that linux mint has them installed by default how can they get away with it ?
[10:48] <kraves> already removed backports ppa, i'll check the forum, thanks :)
[10:50] <shanipribadi> ubuntu__: what im sure is that if canonical included those packages by default then their lawyers would panick ^_^
[10:53] <shanipribadi> ubuntu__: anyway, kubuntu-restricted-extras is a metapackage for several packages, you might want to install only parts of it, just read the package description. You'll also need medibuntu too, especially for DVDs, there's alot of guide about this on ubuntuforums.org, and medibuntu.org
[10:54] <yao_ziyuan> update-notifier-kde sucks. use update-notifier.
[10:55] <valgaav> the issue here is things like dvdcss or w32codecs are illegal in the USA
[10:55] <valgaav> dvdcss also in France  ;)
[10:55] <shanipribadi> why in France? does France still make it illegal for crypto things?
[10:55] <Mamarok> folks, this is getting offtopic, please take that discussion to #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:56] <ubuntu__> thanks for all your help shani gonna install kubuntu now
[10:56] <shanipribadi> Mamarok: oh, right.. ok
[10:56] <dwidmann> kraves: you could probably remove the sources.list for the ppa, set the pin priority for main/updates/backports/security to be >1000, and then update and dist-upgrade. Downgrading like this is potentially risky though.
[10:57] <shanipribadi> dwidmann: what is pin priority? and how do i set it up?
[10:57] <dwidmann> shanipribadi: in /etc/apt/apt.conf or /etc/apt/preferences, I forget which
[10:58] <dwidmann> shanipribadi: yeah, it's /etc/apt/preferences, do man apt_preferences for a good overview of it
[10:58] <shanipribadi> dwidmann: okay.. ill check it out.
[11:01] <dwidmann> shanipribadi: and after you see what it's doing, what you'll need to do is something like "Package: *\n Pin: release jaunty\n Pin-Priority 1001\n\n Package: *\n Pin: release jaunty-security\n Pin-Priority: 1001" and so on, you'll see.
[11:05] <shanipribadi> dwidmann: so the packages from jaunty-updates have a higher priority than kubuntu-backports right?
[11:05] <shanipribadi> dwidmann: might better to use kubuntu-updates ppa, it's got kde 4.2.4
[11:06] <dwidmann> shanipribadi: dvdcss was ruled illegal in the us because I think it was  using keys that were hacked out of some software or such. Worked very well, but you could see where that might be illegal. libdvdcss2 works differently and hasn't been taken to court, so its real legal state is unknown.  (I think it's more of a brute force attack against the keys, which is sane only because the encryption is really weak)
[11:07] <dwidmann> shanipribadi: well, basically you want everything other than the ppa with 4.3b to be pinned >1000, so it can force downgrade. I don't know which "release" the ppa for 4.3b is, and I also don't know whether you should be using origin instead in that case. I know what I mentioned above should work though ... that would bring you back down to 4.2.3 though.
[11:08] <dwidmann> shanipribadi: (I really don't downgrade often ... usually when I'm trying something new/experimental I'll be compiling from source, just in case the packages give me trouble enough that I would have to downgrade, if you know what I mean)
[11:14]  * dROg I am so high...i can hear heaven....oh but heaven....no heaven don't hear me....
[11:14] <dwidmann> shanipribadi: actually, this looks to be a more accurate version of what I was trying to say a bit ago: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libdvdcss
[11:16] <Mamarok> dROg: behave!
[11:16] <dwidmann> shanipribadi: oh, with regards to pin-priority, you might think you'd want different priorities for release, updates, security, backports, but not really, you wouldn't. If you set them all the same it'll be determined normally (ie: by version)
[11:16] <dROg> sorry, i'm using konversation :) and when i transmit a mass message on another network it transmits globally :)
[11:17] <Mamarok> dROg: configure it correctly then, that's not even funny...
[11:17] <Mamarok> and mass messageing is not allowed here
[11:18] <dROg> uhm, i've familiar with that, but didn't knew that konversation has this much akward things :)
[11:18] <dROg> i'm*
[11:19] <dwidmann> That's decidedly odd ... the update manager thingamajig is seeing some updates that apt-get isn't
[11:20] <dwidmann> hehe, wait, that explains it right there, I have updates, security, and backports trimmed out of my sources.list, still odd that picked up on them though, I think.
[11:21] <naught101> is there a way to get a meta information tab in the file properties dialogue in konq/dolphin?
[11:22] <orion76> hello again now sound card 5.1 c-media older
[11:22] <dwidmann> naught101: not that I've noticed, I know good old Konqueror 3.x had that though.
[11:22] <naught101> yes...
[11:23] <dwidmann> I miss that feature, a lot.
[11:24] <dwidmann> naught101: Konqueror for file managing anymore  uses dolphin_part, or something like that, I think.
[11:25] <naught101> yeah, I know they use the same part.. just looking for extra packages I might not have installed
[11:25] <[-Haza-]> Morning folks.. when you edit a file using Kate it created a backup copy with the same name as the original but with a ~ character appended.. Is there a way to compare the original to the back to find the changes in the two files? :) Im sure there is but i don't know how to get started. Cheers
[11:25] <dwidmann> naught101: be sure to let me know if you find something that does it!
[11:27] <dwidmann> [-Haza-]: yes, you can use kompare to do that
[11:28] <[-Haza-]> dwidmann: Cheers. I'll check it out :)
[11:29] <Mamarok> naught101: if you have the Information panel visible, then click on a file, you should be able to add/change the tags
[11:30] <Mamarok> works here with Dolphin
[11:30]  * [-Haza-] gives dwidmann a man-hug
[11:30] <[-Haza-]> Cheers!
[11:31] <dwidmann> hehe, I trust it did the job [-Haza-]?
[11:31] <naught101> Mamarok: I'm not in dolphin, though I want it back in the properties window :(
[11:31] <[-Haza-]> dwidmann: Perfectly :D
[11:31] <dwidmann> Mamarok: it used to be, with Konqueror 3, you could put it in details view and add any meta tag you wanted as a column ...
[11:32] <sheytan_> Hi all, there's a new nvidia driver released. Do kubuntu updates drivers automaticaly? There's no new drivers on the updates list and in the 'hardware drivers' module. Maybe should i upgrade it by hand?
[11:32] <dwidmann> Any supported one, anyway
[11:32] <dwidmann> Mamarok: like for images you could have columns for the dimensions or whatnot, or for mp3/ogg files artist/album/etc columns ... sorting by those and whatnot ... was very handy.
[11:34] <naught101> dwidmann: exactly - I'm trying to compare images in two separate folders..
[11:35] <Mamarok> dwidmann: hm, you are right, I can add comments and tags, but those do not show
[11:35] <Mamarok> I wonder if one has to index those files first with Strigi
[11:37] <dwidmann> KDE4 is way better than KDE3 in a lot of ways ... but this is one of those things that I miss dealy :(
[11:37] <dwidmann> *dearly
[11:39] <Mamarok> dwidmann: I guess it's either not implemented yet or we miss some plugin
[11:39] <dwidmann> Mamarok: Let me know if you figure anything out on that front
[11:40] <Mamarok> dwidmann: diggin right now :)
[11:40] <dwidmann> shanipribadi: which beta of 4.3 were you running? The first one or the one that hit the repositories yesterday?
[11:42] <shanipribadi> dwidmann: i didn't get it, luckily. only find out yesterday when there's many people asking how to downgrade
[11:42] <dwidmann> shanipribadi: I'll take that as my cue not to upgrade right now
[11:42] <Mamarok> shanipribadi: well, it's never a good idea to rush into a beta upgrade... there are 300+ packages which can take days to co mplete a PPA
[11:43] <sheytan_> so, nobody know how to upgrade these drivers?
[11:43] <shanipribadi> dwidmann: it's nice though that there is a way to downgrade with the priority thingie.
[11:43] <shanipribadi> does ubuntu automatically update binary drivers?
[11:44] <dwidmann> sheytan_: I know how, just give me a minute while I find you the appropriate wiki
[11:44] <sheytan_> dwidmann: okej
[11:45] <dwidmann> sheytan_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[11:46] <dwidmann> sheytan_: that's the instructions for getting the newest one.
[11:46] <sheytan_> dwidmann: thanx alot
[12:02] <dwidmann> shanipribadi: no, you usually have to wait for the next release
[12:11] <drurew> can someone please point me to a conclusive *buntu mail server setup howto ?
[12:13] <dwidmann> drurew: probably involves either sendmail or postfix ... I'll see what I can dig up
[12:14] <drurew> dwidmann: thanks :)
[12:14] <makdaknife> drurew: I haven't tried this one... but it looks pretty comprehensive and friendly: http://chiralsoftware.com/linux-system-administration/ubuntu-postfix-imap-dovecot-setup.seam
[12:15] <dwidmann> drurew: don't know if this is comprehensive, but it's worth a glance: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[12:15] <dwidmann> oops, wrong link
[12:15] <dwidmann> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[12:15] <dwidmann> there, that one
[12:18] <drurew> i had another sort of off toppic question regarding debian and ubuntu repos, id like to add some buntu reps to my deb server (no option to switch systems easily). could i do that and keep my working system or would mixing repos be unadvisable?
[12:19] <bazhang> bad idea
[12:20] <Guest31603> hi at all
[12:21] <Guest31603> I foun an error of konqueror
[12:21] <makdaknife> drurew: generally I've found that to be a world of pain
[12:21] <Guest31603> have an SIGSEGV if I go to http://debathena.mit.edu/packaging/  website
[12:22] <makdaknife> drurew: you could add the src repo and then build your deb manually from src...
[12:23] <makdaknife> Guest31603:  woot... I get the same in konqi
[12:23] <drurew>  makdaknife:thanks
[12:24] <makdaknife> drurew: no problem
[12:25] <Guest31603> my Konqueror is 4.2.4
[12:29] <makdaknife> Guest31603: give mea few minutes, I am trying to work out what the problem is
[12:29] <shanipribadi> crashe here too. 4.2.4
[12:31] <Guest31603> can I report the bug on bugs.launchpad.net ?
[12:34] <makdaknife> Guest31603: I guess so... its useful to have a better reason for the crash...
[12:36] <Guest31603> ok
[12:36] <oupa_> anyone got an HP all-in-one working on Kubuntu 9.04?
[12:37] <makdaknife> Guest31603: the problem is that the html file includes an svg image... it appears that this crashes konqui
[12:38] <makdaknife> Guest64930: I downloaded the page and commented out the div that contains the svg and konqi opens it fine
[12:38] <Guest64930> ok
[12:39] <Guest64930> well
[12:41] <makdaknife> Guest64930: I guess you could post the bug with that little bit of extra info... something like konqueror crashes opening svg
[12:42] <Guest64930> ok I report that
[12:42] <Guest64930> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-kde4/+bug/385885
[12:43] <rubasub> hi, anyone into kdenlive?
[12:47] <tsimpson> there we go
[12:47] <dwidmann> crises_averted++
[12:48] <apparle> does ark support drag and drop
[12:55] <makdaknife> Guest64930: I addedmy 2c worth ;-)
[12:56] <makdaknife> rubasub: yeah... I use kdenlive...
[12:59] <Guest64930> makdaknife: I see good report :)
[13:00] <babalu> hi, does someone know a program that displays images (such as gwenview) but in which we can refresh the image if it changes on disk
[13:00] <makdaknife> Guest64930: ;-) if you want to get stuff done its really good to provide as much info as possible... it helps save a developer time, and makes it easier to see what the actual problem is
[13:01] <shanipribadi> babalu: gwenview does that already, just press f5
[13:05] <babalu> shanipribadi: right :(
[13:08] <Guest64930> makdaknife: yes is true
[13:10] <apparle> hi
[13:10] <Guest64930> makdaknife: I will pay more attention
[13:19] <makdaknife> Guest64930: no problem :-) at least you're willing to contribute... its really good that people report this stuff
[13:20] <apparle> please suggest a better archive manager other that ark
[13:26] <rmrfslash> I have 32-bit Kubuntu installed on my workstation. This machine has well over 3 GB of memory, however, this is all that is shown after running `cat /proc/meminfo`. I thought the upper limit of a 32-bit OS was 4 GB? Where's the other 1 GB?
[13:26] <rmrfslash> The workstation has about 16 GB of memory (I have yet to upgrade to 64-bit)
[13:37] <ForgeAus> rmr are you still there?
[13:37] <ForgeAus> if so 32-bit addressing can only access 4 gigabytes of ram, you need a 64-bit OS to access more
[13:39] <ForgeAus> it doesn't mean the other ram isn't there, just that it doesn't have any address space left to access it
[13:48] <nikitis> I recently installed kubuntu and i have a problem with items that were in my deskop not showing their icons.  Even if i browse to the proper icon, it will not show.  Anyone know why?
[13:49] <rmrfslash> ForgeAus: Agreed, should be 4 GB. I'm just wondering why is shows 2.9 GB
[13:50] <shanipribadi> is there a config so that debuild does not try to sign the package
[13:50] <declanpwalsh> Hello all! Have had a look on google and ubuntu forums but can't see a solution to having no sound. I have a nice fresh install and there is very faint sound but all vol is up full. I have onboard ALC883 sound. Can anyone help? Please?
[13:50] <Laeborg> !fxp
[13:51] <Laeborg> !ftp
[13:52] <tsimpson> shanipribadi: -us -uc (see the manpage for dpkg-buildpackage)
[13:53] <shanipribadi> tsimpson: oh.. ok, didnt think of looking there.. thanks
[13:54] <tsimpson> shanipribadi: debuild is mostly a wrapper for dpkg-buildpackage, so all it's options work for debuils
[13:54] <tsimpson> *debuild
[13:54] <nikitis> !compiz
[13:55] <shanipribadi> declanpwalsh: what's your output of cat /proc/asound/cards
[13:55] <declanpwalsh>  0 [SB             ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
[13:55] <declanpwalsh>                       HDA ATI SB at 0xfe024000 irq 16
[13:55] <declanpwalsh>  1 [HDMI           ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI
[13:55] <declanpwalsh>                       HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfdffc000 irq 19
[13:56] <shanipribadi> declanpwalsh: you were saying that there were faint sounds, but all vol is up ful. what apps you use to increase the vol? have you tried alsamixer?
[13:57] <declanpwalsh> shanipribadi: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
[13:57] <shanipribadi> declanpwalsh: kmix use PCM as the default channel, some devices use other channel
[13:58] <nikitis> How do I enable Desktop effects in kubuntu?
[13:58] <nikitis> it's greyed out. i do have 3d drivers installed
[13:58] <shanipribadi> declanpwalsh: hmm, that's weird.
[13:58] <declanpwalsh> yeah i know!!
[13:59] <shanipribadi> declanpwalsh: try alsamixer -c1
[14:00] <maniel> hi
[14:00] <declanpwalsh> weird again: http://paste.ubuntu.com/193430/
[14:00] <shanipribadi> declanpwalsh: and aplay -L to see your device name
[14:00] <maniel> are there any way to get kde 4.3 on jaunty?
[14:01] <declanpwalsh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/193432/
[14:01] <shanipribadi> maniel: you kan try kubuntu-backports ppa package, but many people are having trouble with it.
[14:01] <maniel> and one more thing, i'm encountering something like this: http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/5586/szot.png with kde 4.2.4, on #kde they are saying that it's fixed and telling me to upgrade
[14:02] <shanipribadi> declanpwalsh: apparently your alsa does not make a default alias for your hardware
[14:02] <declanpwalsh> erm... is that bad?
[14:03] <rmrfslash> maniel: you need to add the karmic repos to your sources list
[14:03] <shanipribadi> declanpwalsh: im not sure. perhaps that's why alsamixer does not work for you, because it does not know the right device. but since you were saying that there is a faint sound, then the sound Is working, but there's some wrong config somewhere
[14:04] <rmrfslash> maniel: should be on the kubuntu website
[14:04] <drurew> has anyone installed ubuntu server on an hp proliant 360 ?
[14:05] <shanipribadi> declanpwalsh: try joinning #alsa perhaps there someone who can help you there.
[14:05] <declanpwalsh> although i havent heard sound recently. Is there anyway of reinitialising alsa?
[14:05] <declanpwalsh> cool. thanks
[14:06] <shanipribadi> declanpwalsh: im not very familiar with it
[14:06] <drurew> I am looking for the manuals for the hp proliant g3 360 server (me no findeee)
[14:06] <declanpwalsh> thanks for your help!! Really nice of you
[14:06] <shanipribadi> declanpwalsh: good luck :-)
[14:06] <nikitis> I need help with installing 3d effects with kubuntu
[14:07] <shanipribadi> declanpwalsh: btw, one more thing, try changing the master channel of kmix
[14:07] <maniel> rmrfslash: does it work without changing all repos to karmic and distro upgrade?
[14:07] <ForgeAus> rmrflash like I said you need a 64 bit addressing system (or some kinda trick in a 32-bit system) to access the other ram you have
[14:08] <nikitis> Can someone please answer my question?
[14:08] <rmrfslash> ForgeAus: I understand that to access over 4 GB of memory on a 32-bit OS I need PAE or a 64-bit OS
[14:08] <ForgeAus> nikitis what video card do you have?
[14:08] <nikitis> ForgeAus: nvidia
[14:08] <rmrfslash> ForgeAus: But on a 32-bit OS I should expect 4 GB of memory (if I have 4) right?
[14:09] <ForgeAus> !nvidia
[14:09] <nikitis> ForgeAus: the drivers are installed
[14:09] <rmrfslash> ForgeAus: My question is, why -- even though I have 4 physical GB -- Kubuntu only reports 2.9 GB
[14:09] <ForgeAus> then I don't understand why KDE had greyed out your visual effects, are you sure your card supports them?
[14:09] <nikitis> GeForce 8600 GT
[14:10] <nikitis> and yes, it worked when i used ubuntu, but since i installed kubuntu it doesn't.  And i can play 3d games.  and glxinfo |grep direct says direct rendering yes
[14:10] <ForgeAus> oh 3 gig... uh, I don't know to be honest...
[14:10] <tzanger> good morning
[14:11] <tzanger> how, praytell, does one set up an ad-hoc network with networkmanager? it lets me create an ad-hoc network, but it will nto let me select it
[14:11] <nikitis> So anyone know why Desktop Effects options are greyed out but nvidia drivers are installed and working?
[14:12] <ForgeAus> nikitis maybe ask in #KDE ??
[14:12] <ForgeAus> just a thought...
[14:13] <drurew> tzanger: you have to stop your wlan activity , set the card into adhoc mode then start wlan again
[14:13] <tzanger> drurew: the card is not in use
[14:14] <tzanger> drurew: if I click on the networkmanager systray icon I can see it wants to connect to an available AP, but the empty adhoc network I created is not there
[14:14] <drurew> ifconfig will tell you :terminal :sudo ifconfig wlan(#) stop / start
[14:15] <tzanger> you mean iwconfig? ifconfig doesn't know anything about wireless
[14:15] <tzanger> drurew: and ifconfig/iwconfig do not accept stop/start
[14:18] <drurew> tzanger: ifconfig to see which card you would like to put into which mode ifconfig (card) down , change your settings (adhoc) and restart the card with : ifconfig (card) up
[14:19] <tzanger> drurew: ahh okay, I'll give that a shot.  then networkmanager will let me join an ad-hoc network?
[14:19] <drurew> tzanger: i thought you wanted to create an adhoc network
[14:19] <tzanger> drurew: yes
[14:19] <tzanger> drurew: as I said, networkmanager lets me set it up, but I cannot select that network in the list
[14:20] <drurew> tzanger:you will have to manually create via terminal
[14:20] <drurew> tzanger: lemme get you a link+
[14:21] <whirleystar> Hi guys.. i did something really stupid, and i'm sure i'm not the only one.... i updated to 4.3-beta2 (I wasn't paying attn) and need to downgrade.... is there a way to do that?  A url would be *wonderful*
[14:22] <tzanger> wow, kde will not NOT keep "remember my password" checked for updates
[14:22] <drurew> tzanger:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Adhoc
[14:23] <tzanger> drurew: thanks, looking now
[14:23] <drurew> tzanger: personaly i found setting up wpasupplicant to be a toughy
[14:24] <tzanger> drurew: yeah I remember that particular bag of pain
[14:24] <tzanger> drurew: so networkmanager is not able to create the adhoc network itself, that's what I was tryign to figure out.. thank you so much!
[14:25] <drurew> tzanger:np , enjoy :)
[14:31] <whirleystar> Hey guys....   I updated to kde 4.3-beta2 and now I need to downgrade so I can finish my thesis..... Any handy URLs out there that has the cure?
[14:32] <niko_> hi :D
[14:33] <niko_> how can i change this connection to quakenet?
[14:35] <niko_> how can i change this connection to quakenet?
[14:36] <Tecmi> ./connect irc.quakenet.org
[14:38] <tehboriz> guys this site is telling me i have VIRUSES on my linux! http://bestantiviruscheck2.com/1/?id=2017&smersh=5e907ba26&back=%3DTQw1zD3NIQNMI%3DN
[14:39] <Mamarok> tehboriz: that is nonsense!
[14:39] <Mamarok> tehboriz: and if you want to run a virus check, use clamav, nbever do this in a website
[14:40] <tehboriz> i'm joking around i just bumped into that site by accident somehow
[14:40] <tehboriz> thought it would be funny to share
[14:40] <Mamarok> tehboriz: please don't, this is totally OT here :(
[14:40] <tehboriz> sowwie :(
[14:41] <Alcapond> Hi - installed KDE 4.3b2 today - and everything is working fine! Great work there!
[14:42] <Mamarok> Alcapond: thx, will transmit :)
[14:42] <Alcapond> Just wonder how to get Strigi running. It says "Strigi service failed to initialize, most likely due to an installation problem"
[14:43] <Alcapond> This is too little feedback for me to fix it :(
[14:43] <Mamarok> Alcapond: you need the soprano backend, check if it's installed
[14:43] <Alcapond> ok, thats missing
[14:43] <Alcapond> thx
[14:44] <Mamarok> Alcapond: yaw :)
[14:44] <whirleystar> what's OT mean?
[14:44] <Mamarok> whirleystar: offtopic
[14:45] <Alcapond> Mamarok: do I have to restart anything after installing soprano?
[14:45] <Mamarok> Alcapond: no, just strigi normally, but eventually relog into KDE once to make sure it starts
[14:46] <Alcapond> Mamarok: thx, I will try that
[14:48] <JuJuBee> I cannot sudo apt-get update for some reason.  I think my proxy may be the cause?  I have settings to use proxy for all protocols.  What else should I check?
[14:48] <Mamarok> JuJuBee: what error message do you get?
[14:49] <JuJuBee> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com... bad request
[14:50] <JuJuBee> Just did fresh install of jaunty on my classroom workstations.
[14:51] <JuJuBee> Every repo seems to failed to fetch ...
[14:51] <Mamarok> JuJuBee: that might well be a proxy problem then
[14:53] <JuJuBee> Mamarok: don't think so since it worked a few days ago on my old installation and I haven't changed the proxy settings...
[14:53] <Mamarok> JuJuBee: then I don't know, sorry
[14:55] <JuJuBee> Mamarok: K, thanks anyway... I will restart the proxy and see what happens. we have had some thunderstorms here last few days, maybe a power outage...
[14:56] <Alcapond> Mamarok: still got the same result (even though soprano was not installed before) - do you have any other idea how to find out what Strigi is missing?
[14:57] <Mamarok> Alcapond: I managed to run it with the help of the Nepomuk blog :)
[14:57] <Alcapond> Mamarok: ok, I will take a look there
[14:58] <Mamarok> Alcapond: hope it helps
[14:58] <Alcapond> Mamarok: I am thankful for any hint I can get - I will take a look at it :)
[14:59] <Mamarok> Alcapond: please tell if it works then
[15:00] <Alcapond> Mamarok: I will :9
[15:09] <drurew> is there actually a ubuntu-server room ?
[15:09] <Mamarok> drurew: ried it?
[15:09] <Mamarok> tried even, sry
[15:10] <drurew> looks like there is
[15:10] <drurew> :)
[15:11] <tomsdale> hi - is there a good dock application for KDE you can recommend. I'm using Cairo Dock but I would like to give something else a try too.
[15:12] <Mamarok> tomsdale: what do you mean by dock application?
[15:12]  * Mamarok doesn't know Cairo Dock
[15:12] <tomsdale> Like the Mac OSX dock. Something that replaces your task manager.
[15:13] <Mamarok> ah, did you look in the widget list?
[15:13] <nikitis> How come my Composite extension isn't enabled by default?  I have nvidia drivers installed but i can't enable desktop effects.
[15:13] <drurew> you can google awm dock/manager , ive seen it running in eeebuntu , looks okay but seems to be crash prone
[15:13] <sourcemaker> are ther KDE 4.3 Beta 2 users?
[15:14] <Mamarok> nikitis: do you have all kwin dependencies?
[15:14] <nikitis> Mamarok: not sure, how can i check?
[15:15] <tomsdale> sourcemaker: yes - unvoluntarily though - I seemed to have added the wrong repo
[15:15] <nikitis> Mamarok: sudo apt-get build-dep kwin ?
[15:15] <sourcemaker> tomsdale: is it working for you?
[15:15] <tomsdale> Mamarok: nothing in the default plasma list. what I find is mainly for Gnome.
[15:16] <Mamarok> nikitis: no, why? you are not going to build a deb file :)
[15:17] <nikitis> how do I check
[15:17] <tomsdale> sourcemaker: from what I can gather there are some quirks but it's relatively stable. I had 1 Kwin crash and I had to redo my widget list - it reverted back to default once I installed the beta.
[15:17] <Mamarok> nikitis: aptitude show kwin
[15:18] <Alcapond> Mamarok: the problem is that KUbuntu does not have a  seasme2 backend - and without this nepomuk is basically useless :(
[15:18] <Mamarok> sourcemaker: if you can handle ocasional dependency issues...
[15:18] <Mamarok> Alcapond: wait, I'll check what I installed
[15:18] <nikitis> Mamarok: it says it's installed and depends on kde-window-manager
[15:19] <Mamarok> Alcapond: make sure you have the soprano-backend-sesame installed
[15:20] <Mamarok> nikitis: well, yes, is it installed also?
[15:20] <tehboriz> what's so good about the new kde?
[15:20] <Mamarok> tehboriz: works better, more options tha previousley
[15:20] <_nix_> tehboriz: solid and phono
[15:20] <tomsdale> sourcemaker: If you are eager and can live with the occasional crash and fix problems yourself give it a try. On the other hand there is nothing mind boggeling so far I have found in the release, more usability improvements so you might as well wait for the official release.
[15:20] <Alcapond> Mamarok:  well I did install that package - and I did a reboot afterwards
[15:20] <_nix_> tehboriz: phonon*
[15:21] <Mamarok> tehboriz: and KDE 4 is work in progress, so you get new stuff on every update
[15:21] <Mamarok> tehboriz: but if you are not an experienced user, do not use the beta packages
[15:21] <tehboriz> i think i got kde 4, or whatever came with 9.04
[15:21] <Mamarok> Alcapond: in systemsettings -Advanced Tab - Desktop search, enabled strigi?
[15:21] <tehboriz> i am an inexperienced user.
[15:21] <nikitis> Mamarok: Says kde-window-manager is installed
[15:21] <Mamarok> tehboriz: that is 4.2.2 then
[15:22] <Mamarok> nikitis: how did you install Jaunty?
[15:22] <tehboriz> oh i also have a huge issue with the plasma networking widget... it always cuts off the wireless networks i'm looking for
[15:22] <nikitis> Mamarok: alternate text CD.  I have a complicated LVM setup.  I had to use it
[15:22] <Alcapond> Mamarok: it is enabled - this is where I get the message that "Strigi service failed to initialize..."
[15:22] <nikitis> Mamarok: I manually installed nvidia drivers.  The latest
[15:22] <Mamarok> tehboriz: tha is another issue, you shoudl upgrade to KDE 4.2.4 then
[15:22] <Mamarok> nikitis: that might well be the problem...
[15:23] <tehboriz> so the .0.0.2 makes a big difference then huh? how do i upgrade
[15:23] <Mamarok> nikitis: what package manager do you use?
[15:23] <nikitis> Mamarok: i need them though...  It fixes problems with xinerama
[15:23] <tomsdale> tehboriz: +1 for the networkmanager. I still have this in 4.3 beta. I wonder if there is still a setting somewhere in my home directory back from the alpha 5 days.
[15:23] <nikitis> apt-get
[15:23] <nikitis> Mamarok: i was getting GLX_BAD_Drawable errors with previous version of drivers,
[15:23] <Mamarok> nikitis: try synaptic, it shows you the dependencies much better
[15:24] <_nix_> I'll have to add the ppa repositories to get kde 4.2.4? does it mean I'll be exposing myself to whatever fireworks goes on in ppa?
[15:25] <nikitis> Mamarok: what am I looking for?  It shows the dependancies installed
[15:25] <Mamarok> _nix_: well, then don't and wait patiently for Karmic
[15:26] <Mamarok> nikitis: it will show you all the kde packages you might be missing
[15:26]  * Mamarok will have to go soon...
[15:26] <_nix_> Mamarok: its a bugfix release right?
[15:27] <Mamarok> _nix_: yes, and it's from a tested PPA made by the Kubuntu developers
[15:27] <Mamarok> _nix_: check the topic
[15:27] <nikitis> Mamarok: it's all installed as far as I can tell, but still no composite extensions.
[15:27] <Mamarok> nikitis: then I don't know, it might well be the Nvidia driver you installed from elsewhere
[15:27] <vorian> _nix_: yes, if you want unsupported packages - the ppa is the place to be
[15:28] <_nix_> I was wondering if it'll eventually figure in the "usual" updates being a bugfix
[15:29] <vorian> 4.2.4 will find it's way to -updates in jaunty, it just takes time to make it there
[15:29] <_nix_> vorian: ok, thanks.
[15:29] <vorian> no problemo
[15:30] <vorian> I have an Xorg/kwin question (sad I know)
[15:30] <vorian> Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options. Settings will be reverted to their previous values.
[15:30] <vorian> Check your X configuration. You may also consider changing advanced options, especially changing the compositing type.
[15:30] <vorian> what's that about?
[15:30] <vorian> my card is more than capable of compositing, so I've really messed something up
[15:31] <Mamarok> vorian: what card?
[15:31] <vorian> it's a geeforce 8800
[15:32] <vorian> http://machinecrusade.net/100_2694.JPG <- that's what it looks like
[15:32] <Mamarok> vorian: hm, don't know about Nvidia, but a few people seem to have problems, there is probably also a bug report in Launchpad about that
[15:32] <vorian> crap, it was just working too!
[15:37] <tomsdale> nice rack @ vorian
[15:37] <nikitis> Ok, i've redone my setup and do not have my nvidia drivers installed.  How do I in KDE install the nvidia drivers properly?
[15:38] <nikitis> !nvidia
[15:38] <vorian> ta tomsdale :)
[15:42] <Jack8899-2> I cannot kill the process java, what can I do?
[15:42] <vorian> Mamarok: disabling dri did the trick fyi
[15:42] <Mamarok> vorian: thx, will try to remember then :)
[15:45] <tomsdale> Here is another one: in KDE can I drag a windows across virtual workspaces? Can't seem to find a setting for that.
[15:45] <Quintasan> Jack8899-2: did you try sudo kill -s SIGKILL <pid_of_process>?
[15:46] <Jack8899-2> Quintasan: no i didnt
[15:46] <Quintasan> tomsdale: you mean dragging a window to another desktop?
[15:46] <Quintasan> Jack8899-2: so try :P
[15:46] <declanpwalsh> hi, I'm having trouble with a sata harddisk that doesn't let me write to it. Am i doing something wrong? I've plugged it in and rebooted.
[15:46] <tomsdale> Quintasan: exacly. Like in gnome by default.
[15:47] <Jack8899-2> Quintasan: worked :) , is there a better tool then the system monitor which can kill processes?
[15:47] <Quintasan> tomsdale: a) right click on title bar and you should have Move to desktop (or something like that, using Polish) and pick where you want to have it
[15:48] <Quintasan> tomsdale: b) activate the Visual Effects in System Settings -> Desktop and press Meta(WinKey)+E and drag your window
[15:48] <tomsdale> Quintasan: I know this and I even have a shortcut set. But dragging would be nicer.
[15:48] <tomsdale> ah - that'S something new
[15:49] <Quintasan> Jack8899-2: Do you know about signals?
[15:50] <Jack8899-2> Quintasan: what is it, a program?
[15:50] <Quintasan> Jack8899-2: the command I gave you kills the process without giving it chance to save documents etc.
[15:50] <Quintasan> Jack8899-2: hence SIGKILL
[15:51] <declanpwalsh> when i try to open the harddrive it seems to open but i can't write to it; says access denied: could not write to...
[15:51] <Mamarok> Alcapond: sorry, neglected you, will be back in some time only :(
[15:51]  * Mamarok goes to fetch her car
[15:52] <Quintasan> Jack8899-2: you can try right-clicking on a process -> Send signal -> the position with (KILL) [sorry for no translation but I'm using polish lang atm]
[15:52] <Quintasan> Jack8899-2: in system monitor OFC'
[15:52] <declanpwalsh> anyone have any ideas?
[15:52] <nikitis> Okay, does KDE not allow 3d Desktop effects with Xinerama enabled?
[15:53] <Jack8899-2> Quintasan: ok, thanks :)
[15:54] <Quintasan> Jack8899-2: np :D
[15:56] <declanpwalsh> gparted has no problem with recognising it, and formatting/partitioning it
[15:56] <padi999> hey guys
[15:57] <padi999> on what channel can I get help on vlc issue?
[15:57] <Alcapond> Mamarok: just to let you know - I managed starting it using http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3102231.0 - just had to kill nepomukservicestub and restart that service
[15:57] <declanpwalsh> is there another channel i should ask for help in?
[15:59] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all is there any eee1000 users?
[16:00] <MetaMorfoziS> 1000h, exactly but i just wanted to ask about the performance, and that do i need to upgrade the intel drivers?
[16:00] <MetaMorfoziS> i'm on jaunty now, and i have glitches
[16:00] <MetaMorfoziS> without composition
[16:09] <Authority> does dpkg have a similar function to 'rpm -V' (verify integrity of installed package)?
[16:19] <DexterF> hi
[16:19] <_Whipper> hi
[16:19] <DexterF> i'd like to upgrade a 8.04 installation to 9.04/kde3 - are there instructions on this or am I on my own?
[16:20] <Zorael> Authority: Let me know if you find any command for that, please
[16:21] <Authority> Zorael: apparently there is another package called debsums to do this
[16:21] <Zorael> Authority: ah, thanks
[16:25] <nikitis> Can anyone tell me why my icons of .png will not show on my desktop?
[16:31] <nikitis> Anyone there?
[16:33] <whirleystar> so i tried to downgrade from kde 4.3b2:  i removed the backports line in sources.list, removed, purged kubuntu-desktop and reinstalled, on reboot, i still have 4.3b2... what am i doing wrong?
[16:36] <nikitis> Guys, the .png mime type is broken.  Anyway to fix it?
[16:36] <sujith_h> hi help is required to figure out why my system got slow after installing kubuntu juanty. My laptop is Thinkpad r51. And RAM is 1.256 GB
[16:39] <Telengard> Where is the official checksum (md5sum, sha-1, etc.) for kubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso ?
[16:40] <BluesKaj> !pm | ese
[16:43] <ese> ok thanks, i accepted. problem is pc has two sound output, one with Mob & the other pci; now there is no sound coming from the pci; how do i confugure this
[16:46] <BluesKaj> ese, what is  the pci card ?
[16:47] <BluesKaj> ese, in the terminal : lspci | grep audio
[16:48] <ese> 05:04.0 Audio device: Creative Labs SB X-Fi
[16:48] <ese> 	Subsystem: Creative Labs Device 6002
[16:48] <ese> 	Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11
[16:48] <ese> 	Memory at f7bec000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
[16:48] <ese> 	Memory at f7c00000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2M]
[16:48] <ese> 	Memory at f0000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64M]
[16:48] <ese> 	I/O ports at cce0 [size=32]
[16:48] <ese> 	Capabilities: <access denied>
[16:48] <kevin_> how can i delete files without moving them to the trash since when i try to move them to the trash it tells me it is too big and i have to manually delete it.
[16:50] <ese> from what i understand sofar the sound card is creative Labs SB X-Fi
[16:52] <BluesKaj> ese , in the terminal : alsamixer ..make sure all the relavent controls are not muted (use the M key to unmute)
[16:53] <bdizzle> hi
[16:53] <BluesKaj> and sound volume is at least 67%
[16:53] <kulbir> j #debian
[16:53] <bdizzle> I'm having some serious issues lately with Kubuntu 9.04. The most recent being after I enter my password and log in, my keyboard stops working
[16:53] <ese> yes, alsa is working with the mob soundcard; but i wonted the pci soundcard not the Mob soundcard
[16:54] <bdizzle> Plasma has been freezing up like crazy every so hours when I go to switch windows, or sometimes just because it feels like it
[16:54] <bdizzle> anyone know of a way to restore things other than to re-install KDE?
[16:57] <BluesKaj> ese, sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[16:57] <BluesKaj> ese , then do : asoundconf set-default-card "name of soundcard"
[16:58] <ese> ok, thanks. i will do that. i will post the reply some other time.
[16:59] <BluesKaj> ese, or you can change the default soundcard in your BIOS to the pci
[17:00] <BluesKaj> ese , reply in pastebin
[17:04] <cracker> Hello
[17:04] <cracker> Не подскажете где хранится config Konversation?
[17:04] <commander_> what's a good antivirus for kubntu?
[17:06] <Pici> !ru | cracker
[17:06] <Pici> commander_: Are you sure you need AV software?
[17:06] <cracker> ПРивет
[17:06] <BluesKaj> !virus | commander_
[17:07] <cracker> не подскажете где хранится конфиг конверсэйшона?
[17:07] <cracker> Ирц клиента
[17:07] <Mamarok> !ru cracker
[17:07] <Mamarok> !ru | cracker
[17:07] <Mamarok> too late...
[17:08] <BluesKaj> who knows what his reply was :)
[17:08] <commander_> i know about the history of Linux but it's best to be safe than sorry
[17:08] <Mamarok> let's google it?
[17:08] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, be my guest :)
[17:08] <Mamarok> commander_: I use Linux since 10 years, never seen a virus, and as one hs to be root to install stuff...
[17:09] <BluesKaj> commander_, there's cautious , and then there's ultra cautious , but if you must , check out clamav for one
[17:09] <commander_> ok. but i'm ol school when it come to security
[17:10] <Zorael> Once linux scareware starts popping up, though? "Your Ubuntu is at risk! Download this and run it with "sudo fixmycomputer.sh" and protect yourself today!
[17:10] <Zorael> so, weakest link is the gullible user
[17:11] <BluesKaj> not many linux users will bite at such a statement
[17:11] <Mamarok> commander_: Kubuntu is by default a closed system :)
[17:11] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: new users might :(
[17:12] <Zorael> Keep to the repositories and you'll be safe. ClamAV will detect Windows viruses if you have it on another partition, but serves no purpose otherwise :3
[17:23] <romullo> hi
[17:23] <romullo> anyone knows how can i reinstall all the plasma packages?
[17:23] <romullo> (jaunty, KDE 4.2)
[17:25] <DaskreeCH> Anyone ever setup Coova Chilli ?
[17:25] <romullo> the plasma is broken after an upgrade yesterday =(
[17:28] <Telengard> I found the answer to my own question. The MD5 hases for official Kubuntu ISOs are available at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes
[17:28] <DaskreeCH> romullo: sudo apt-get remove plasma ?
[17:29] <DaskreeCH> Telengard: They are also in a file within the ISO directory named MD5SUMS
[17:29] <Telengard> DaskreeCH : True, but the article I linked is hosed in domain Ubuntu.com, and on a secure server, and therefore more official  :)
[17:30] <Telengard> ^ hosted
[17:33] <BluesKaj> Wow, we have 2 floodbots ! ...must be anticipating some troll/flooders
[17:33] <tsimpson> no, just trying to get the damn thing to work
[17:35] <BluesKaj> autokill more than 3 lines , tsimpson ?
[17:36] <tsimpson> BluesKaj: warning for multiple lines, mute for flood and mibbit support
[17:36] <DaskreeCH_> BluesKaj: Gather the animals two by two
[17:36] <BluesKaj> ok
[17:37] <BluesKaj>  DaskreeCH_ :)
[17:42] <romullo> DaskreeCH: didn't work.. the package plasma does not exist
[17:43] <rubasub> Hi, I've just installed kdenlive on kubuntu and am trying the rendering tool on 7.3...do I have to install extra codecs to use the websites option?
[17:50] <sourcemaker> I have a problem starting kde... the screen keeps blanks
[17:50] <sourcemaker> the last message is preparing to launch knotify
[17:51] <DexterF> I'd like the live system to have vm-tools - where would I file a feature request for that?
[17:53] <stefano_> hello
[18:02] <stefano_> hello
[18:02] <stefano_> I'm wondering why a "dist-upgrade" button isn't present on kpakagekit on kubuntu
[18:03] <anonimous_> 8    ?   8
[18:04] <stefano_> why a "dist-upgrade" button isn't present on kpakagekit on kubuntu? kpakagekit just blocks packets
[18:12] <eduin> hola soy nuevo y no se como instalar un programa
[18:12] <jessica_> ola soy nueva..xD
[18:12] <eduin> y llege aqui por cachariar
[18:13] <jessica_> ños ni mas gente
[18:13] <jessica_> ¿hola quien eres?
[18:14] <eduin> Alguien que me ayude
[18:14] <eduin> como manejo kubunto
[18:14] <jessica_> lo mimso pregunto yo..xD
[18:16] <tsimpson> !es | eduin, jessica_
[18:16] <jessica_> ños gracias..=D
[18:16] <eduin> ok
[18:16] <eduin> gracias
[18:16] <jessica_> thank
[18:20] <julia_2> hey. if 2 user access the same data they dont know that they work in the same document. oplock = yes, level2 oplocks=yes, strict locking=yes. what can i do?
[18:24] <Pepi> Hallo
[18:24] <zzzeus> hey world
[18:25] <Pepi> Welche Datei muss ich bei KDE 4.2 löschen, dass sich KDE so fällt, als wäre es frisch installiert?
[18:29] <Fanfare> Pepi:  den Ordner ~/.kde Aber mach vorher n Backup, da dort auch Kalender/Kontakte/etc drin ist.
[18:30] <jared555> is it suggested that experienced users use ufw or iptables directly?
[18:30] <tsimpson> whichever you want to use
[18:31] <tsimpson> try ufw, if it's not powerful enough for you, use iptables
[18:31] <Fanfare> !de
[18:31] <Pepi> Fanfare: Das wollte ich nicht, Die Mails etc. sollen ja so bleiben wie sie sind. Ich wollte nur das Startmenü und die Star-Leiste und den Desktop wieder so haben, wie er bei der Neuinstallation war.
[18:32] <vbgunz> everytime I press / in konqueror and start to find something, konqueror crashes. anyone aware of this?
[18:32] <vbgunz> and then, to add insult to injury, the restore session of konqueror restores an older session
[18:35] <Pepi> ubottu: Sorry, das habe ich inzwischen auch gemerkt und werde nach kubuntu-de wechseln.
[18:39] <sourcemaker> I have a problem related to kde 3.4 BETA2 ... aconadi is crashing
[18:39] <sourcemaker> Bridged resource  has no standard resource.
[18:45] <julia_2> hmm nobody an idea?
[18:46] <solid_liq> !ping
[18:53] <whirleystar> so i tried to downgrade from kde 4.3b2:  i removed the backports line in sources.list, removed, purged kubuntu-desktop and reinstalled, on reboot, i still have 4.3b2... what am i doing wrong?
[19:03] <piksi> any news when the plasma messup is going to be fixed?
[19:03] <piksi> i.e. this: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/26184904/messed.png
[19:12] <Mamarok> piksi: what KDE version do you use?
[19:15] <piksi> Mamarok: 4.2.4
[19:15] <piksi> Mamarok: happens on three computers with different gpus and happened also on an earlier version. standard kubuntu x86_64 install
[19:16] <piksi> Mamarok: usually plasma widgets and all text just disappear after the computer has been in use for long (i suspect some kind of memory leak of some kind as it sometimes also crashes plasma)
[19:17] <Mamarok> piksi: hm, my laptop runs KDE 3 beta since quite some time, besides one plasma crash I haven't seen that
[19:17] <teemu> Hi. I have a Windows Mobile here connected via usb. How would I share the Internet connection from Kubuntu to the mobile?
[19:17] <Mamarok> piksi: is there a bug report somewhere?
[19:17] <piksi> Mamarok: yes and i've contributed to it too. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/366300
[19:18]  * Mamarok checks
[19:18] <teemu> or does this require active synhc..
[19:19] <piksi> it started appearing after kde4 reached 4.2.something, i never had it in 4.0.* nor 4.1.* versions although those had multiple other problems
[19:21] <Mamarok> piksi: fresh install or upgrade? One comment seems to indicate a relation
[19:22] <Mamarok> FWIW, mine is a clean install of Jaunty
[19:24] <piksi> mine is a clean install of jaunty on three computers, hasn't helped
[19:24] <piksi> was just curious if there was any news of a fix
[19:25] <Mamarok> piksi: well, I didn't even know about, as it never occured here
[19:28] <Kjaras> any one know howto delete wine and winetricks completley and reinstall them... and sorry for bad english
[19:30] <bdgraue> Kjaras: sudo apt-get remove --purge wine
[19:30] <Kjaras> does it remove winetricks too??
[19:31] <bdgraue> Kjaras: and delete the .wine folder in your home direktory
[19:31] <bdgraue> Kjaras: after that all should be deleted, afaik
[19:32] <Kjaras> but can you help me reinstall wine and winetricks???
[19:35] <bdgraue> Kjaras: wine reinstaling, yes, but i don't know what for your need winetricks
[19:36] <Kjaras> steam
[19:36] <bdgraue> Kjaras: sudo apt-get install wine    will reinstall it
[19:36] <teemu> umm.. how about Bluetooth then?
[19:37] <Kjaras> bdgraue: Install these packages without verification [y/N]? sudo apt-get install winesu
[19:38] <bdgraue> Kjaras: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554  at the bottom you can find instructions on how installing steam, including winetricls
[19:38] <eshat> Hi all, why does firefox show a gnome filemanger, when uploading files, although I am on KDE 4.2.4 ???
[19:38] <bdgraue> Kjaras: winesu?
[19:38] <Kjaras> pasted a little wrong
[19:38] <Kjaras> bdgraue: Install these packages without verification [y/N]?
[19:39] <Kjaras> where do i get vertification?
[19:39] <bdgraue> Kjaras: why do you have no verification
[19:39] <Kjaras> i dont know
[19:39] <Mamarok> eshat: because it is a GTK application
[19:39] <teemu> There was a panel for bluetooth services but now I don't see it anywhere..
[19:39] <bdgraue> Kjaras: are there any errors about missing keys, wenn you make an sudo apt-get update  ?
[19:40] <eshat> Mamarok: Nooooooooooooo :(
[19:40] <Mamarok> eshat: no need to shout...
[19:40] <bdgraue> Kjaras: http://www.winehq.org/download/deb  did you read that and followed the inatructions, including adding the key?
[19:41] <eshat> Mamarok: Is konqueror an good alternative ?
[19:41] <bdgraue> Kjaras: wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[19:41] <Kjaras> http://pastebin.com/d16659eb1
[19:41] <bdgraue> Kjaras: do you have any gui package manager open?
[19:41] <Kjaras> idk
[19:41] <Mamarok> eshat: I like it, but you can also use QtCurve for the GTK apps in KDE, check the Systemsettings -> appearance
[19:42] <Kjaras> i dont know
[19:42] <bdgraue> Kjaras: close all package manager (kpackage, adept, synaptic)
[19:43] <bdgraue> Kjaras: wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[19:43] <bdgraue> will add your key
[19:43] <bdgraue> after that
[19:43] <bdgraue> Kjaras: sudo apt-get update
[19:43] <Kjaras> nothing happends
[19:43] <bdgraue> Kjaras: sudo apt-get install wine
[19:46] <Kjaras> http://pastebin.com/da6c8e30
[19:47] <bdgraue> Kjaras: wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[19:47] <bdgraue> Kjaras: that should do the trick
[19:47] <Kjaras> ok
[19:47] <Kjaras> aaah nice :P
[19:47] <bdgraue> after that   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[19:47] <Kjaras> thanks :P
[19:48] <Kjaras> can you help me width winetricks??
[19:49] <bdgraue> Kjaras: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554    take a look at the bottom
[19:49] <bdgraue> Kjaras: HOWTO: Installing and Running Steam
[19:49] <Kjaras> aaah :P
[19:49] <Kjaras> thanks
[19:49] <FabParma> I have a computer repair and small-shop. I would like to offer to citizens of my small city a free internet use, especially for students, not rich people and Linux interested. I have already installed the computer and Linux but now I need to shapping the bandwidth into the Linux client.. In more I need to permit to see the gateway Ip address only. Do you think it is possible?
[19:50] <Kjaras> but since i just reinstalled wine do i need to install steam again??
[19:50] <bdgraue> Kjaras: yes, if you removed the .wine  folder in your home-deirectory
[19:53] <Kjaras> didnt find it so i think its gone ....
[19:54] <bdgraue> Kjaras: its an hidden folder
[19:54] <Kjaras> OH?
[19:54] <Kjaras> how do i find it ???? :S :(
[19:54] <bdgraue> Kjaras: ALT + .  should show them
[19:54] <bdgraue> in dolphin ALT+ .
[19:55] <Kjaras> didnt work
[19:55] <bdgraue> ALT and .
[19:55] <Kjaras> aaaah
[19:56] <JuJuBee> Anybody using wireless ATH9k with Jaunty successfully?  I cannot see any wireless networks.
[19:56] <Kjaras> do i need to reinstall wine again then?
[19:56] <bdgraue> Kjaras: no
[19:57] <Kjaras> how to delete steam again then?
[19:57] <bdgraue> Kjaras: one winecfg in konsole should bring .wine
[19:57] <bdgraue> Kjaras: steam and all wine related is in .wine
[19:57] <bdgraue> Kjaras: if you delete .wine then all have been gone by now :)
[19:57] <Kjaras> err:winedevice:ServiceMain driver L"StyleXPHelper" failed to load
[19:58] <Kjaras> so if i just delete the folder can i sudo wine back ?? :P
[19:59] <Kjaras> sudo apt-get install wine afther deleting .wine??
[19:59] <bdgraue> no
[19:59] <bdgraue> you dont need do install it again
[19:59] <Kjaras> but i have other programs that was using wine
[19:59] <bdgraue> Kjaras: just an    winecfg    in konsole/terminal
[20:00] <Kjaras> it fails
[20:00] <Kjaras> error
[20:00] <Kjaras> kjartan@kraxty:~$ winecfg
[20:00] <Kjaras> err:winedevice:ServiceMain driver L"StyleXPHelper" failed to load
[20:00] <Kjaras> sorry for spam paste
[20:00] <bdgraue> if you delete .wine, then all these progeamms have to be reinstalled
[20:01] <Kjaras> is there a folder i can go watch wot programs i have installed??
[20:01] <bdgraue> Kjaras: sry, i hope somene other can help you with that, i dont have the time anymore :(
[20:02] <Kjaras> ok but thx for all help :P
[20:02] <bdgraue> Kjaras: hope you will get all problems solved
[20:02] <Kjaras> ;)
[20:22] <Kjaras> why does it take AGES to delete folders???
[20:22] <Kjaras> is there any way to see system info in linux=
[20:23] <Kjaras> ?+
[20:23] <Pici> Kjaras: Such as?
[20:23] <Kjaras> ram.. HDD
[20:23] <Kjaras> and those tings
[20:24] <Kjaras> graphics
[20:25] <Pici> sudo lshw will tell you a lot.  I'm not sure if there is a KDE tool for it though.
[20:29] <Kjaras> ok
[20:30] <Kjaras> is there any way to incrase speed of deleting things ??
[20:32] <Kjaras> i accedentily deleted trash from my menu :S where can i get it back???
[20:33] <intok> anyone tried Qimo before? how is it for young kids?
[20:34] <DexterF> how the hell do I install open-vm-tools on 9.04? m-a failed
[20:41] <DaskreeCH> Does anyone know where Amarok caches the podcasts it's downloading ?
[20:44] <oobe> DaskreeCH, no but im guessing it could be /tmp or ~/.amorak if not you can check somwhere in the settings there would be an option to specify its location
[20:45] <DaskreeCH> ~/.amarok ?
[20:59] <RyanV2> Could I get some help on wireless networking on ubuntu?
[21:06] <DaskreeCH> What's going on with the servers?
[21:06] <DaskreeCH> And who is FloodBotK1?
[21:06] <Mamarok> DaskreeCH: a bot that prevents spam flooding
[21:07] <DaskreeCH> What's +e in terms of IRC ?
[21:07] <Mamarok> DaskreeCH: DaskreeCH what servers, Freenode?
[21:07] <DaskreeCH> Yes
[21:07] <Mamarok> DaskreeCH: it's an exception of an IRC rule
[21:07] <jim__> i need help
[21:07] <jim__> plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[21:07] <DaskreeCH> ah Hmm wonder why Ryanv2 merited an exception
[21:08] <DaskreeCH> jim__: With?
[21:08] <Mamarok> jim__: behave, no need to exagerate...
[21:08] <jim__> dj mix programs
[21:08] <whirleystar> i need help too!
[21:08] <Mamarok> !ask
[21:08] <DaskreeCH> jim__: apt-cache search dj
[21:09] <jim__> yes
[21:09] <jim__> plz
[21:09] <DaskreeCH> If you want a broader search try apt-cache search mix
[21:09] <DaskreeCH> whirleystar: just ask your question :)
[21:10] <jim__> thanx
[21:10] <whirleystar> I f---ed up and "updated" to kde4.3b, I need to finish my dissertation, Can I go back to 4.2.x?
[21:11] <Mamarok> jim__: idjc is a nice one btw
[21:11] <jim__> thanx
[21:11] <Mamarok> whirleystar: KDE 4.3 owrks fine here, no need to go back. What is your exact problem?
[21:11] <Mamarok> works* even
[21:12] <jim__> any you tube downloader?
[21:12] <whirleystar> checkerboard background, no shortcuts work, krunner doesn't work, on boot I get a "no greeter app" or something close to that
[21:12] <Mamarok> jim__: I don't know any, did you try to google for it?
[21:13] <Mamarok> whirleystar: did you complete the installation or do you have packages held back?
[21:13] <jim__> yes bad nothing
[21:13] <bazhang> jim__, youtube-dl
[21:13] <whirleystar> I'm not sure... it DID say that there were 32 packages that would not install...
[21:14] <Mamarok> whirleystar: try to update again: sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:14] <whirleystar> ok
[21:15] <jim__> nothing for broswer?
[21:15] <bazhang> sure there is
[21:15] <Mamarok> whirleystar: if you still get errors, please paste the output to hhttp://paste.ubuntu.com and send the link here
[21:15] <bazhang> youtube-dl is the easiest though
[21:16] <bazhang> youtube-dl -t [URL] will get you the whole thing, with the correct title
[21:16] <jim__> thax for all bb
[21:16] <bazhang> oops
[21:18] <whirleystar> packages were held back: http://paste.ubuntu.com/193707/
[21:19] <Mamarok> whirleystar: that many? wow...
[21:19] <Mamarok> whirleystar: you did sudo apt-get update first, didn't you?
[21:20] <whirleystar> yah.... I must admit that I had GPG errors on the update because I didn't verify key.... would that screw me up?
[21:20] <Mamarok> whirleystar: of course, you need to add that key :)
[21:21] <Mamarok> whirleystar: do you know how?
[21:21] <whirleystar> argg.... please excuse me, I don't remember
[21:22] <Mamarok> whirleystar: tpe the following in a konsole:
[21:22] <Mamarok> gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv<PHONE_NUMBER>3B3065
[21:22] <Mamarok> then that line:
[21:22] <Mamarok> gpg --export --armor<PHONE_NUMBER>3B3065 | sudo apt-key add -
[21:22] <Mamarok> don't forget the trailing - at the end
[21:23] <Mamarok> type* even
[21:23] <Mamarok> then udate again
[21:23] <Mamarok> update*
[21:23]  * Mamarok needs to clean the keyboard
[21:24] <whirleystar> ok... updating now
[21:27] <liz> hi room anyone here familiar with puppylinux?
[21:27] <Mamarok> liz: this is the #kubuntu support channel...
[21:27] <liz> yes I know, is there a puppy channel?
[21:28] <Mamarok> liz: no idea, check on their website
[21:28] <halberd> why doesn't apt-get install kolourpaint work? it can't find the package
[21:28] <halberd> what is the name of the kolourpaint package?
[21:29] <halberd> I also tried install kolourpaint4
[21:29] <bazhang> liz, /msg alis help list
[21:29] <Mamarok> !kolourpaint4
[21:29] <Mamarok> !info kolourpaint4
[21:30] <Mamarok> halberd: installing the kdegraphics metapackage should install it
[21:30] <halberd> I see packages kolourpaint and kolourpaint4-kde4 in synaptic
[21:31] <halberd> ah, kolourpaint4-kde4 works
[21:31] <whirleystar> Mamarok: updated, then upgraded, 30 packages kept back.
[21:32] <Mamarok> whirleystar: strange
[21:32] <liz> bazhang: thx I did find a room :)
[21:32] <bazhang> liz, you're welcome :)
[21:32] <Mamarok> whirleystar: you will have to install manually, start with sudo apt-get install kdebase-plasma
[21:34] <whirleystar> Mamarok: That one worked!
[21:34] <Mamarok> whirleystar: they should all work, continue then with all the kdebase- ones
[21:44] <whirleystar> Mamarok: You're beautiful!
[21:44] <whirleystar> everything should updated, no packages held back.... should I try a reboot?
[21:44] <Mamarok> whirleystar: yaw :)
[21:44] <Mamarok> whirleystar: no, only restart KDE
[21:45] <whirleystar> Can I do that without logging out of my session?
[21:46] <Mamarok> well, if you are running Quassel on a remote core or Irssi in a screen session, then yes
[21:47] <whirleystar> uh, no.... I'll see what I can do... Thank you so much for the help!  Now I can get back to work on my thesis :)
[21:47] <Mamarok> whirleystar: great :)
[21:48] <Mamarok> ok, off for tonight, gn8 everyone
[21:54] <commander_> how can i get synaptics package manager?
[21:59] <bazhang> commander_, sudo apt-get install synaptic
[22:03] <commander_> baz thanks.just installed kubuntu and partitioned it
[22:03] <bazhang> you're welcome :)
[22:05] <radioproduccion> hi i'm not learn and speak english
[22:05] <radioproduccion> ubuntu spanish?
[22:06] <bazhang> !es
[22:23] <rohan_> in konsole, i want to use ctrl-tab and ctrl-shift-tab to switch between next and previous tab respectively. the first shortcut works, however the ctrl-shift-tab has no effect. i am using kde 4.2.2 on kubuntu 9.04.
[22:26] <yao_ziyuan> i guess everyone here are using oxygen-molecule as gtk+ engine now, right?
[22:31] <rohan> will the desktop-as-folderview retain the icon arrangement across reboots?
[23:08] <declan_> Hello. Been struggling with really quiet sound for hours now. Can anyone help before I buy a pci soundcard? Please?
[23:08] <compilerwriter> I have an sdcard mounted on my machine.  I need to sync it and umount it no?
[23:11] <viable-tadesse_> configure --build=i686 --host=arm-linux --target=arm-linux -- what is the build option here?
[23:11] <kjaras> steam wont start ???? its not happening anyting at all when i try starting steam  can any one help me?
[23:13] <kjaras> is there any thing called taskmanager in linux?
[23:14]  * TheJohn is back (gone 00:00:44)
[23:14]  * TheJohn is away: BBL AGAIN. Time for a break off my computer.
[23:24] <compilerwriter> I am having trouble umounting my sdcard umount tells me the file system is in use.
[23:27] <kjaras> can any one help me width steam or give me a irc server that i can ask for help???
[23:27] <office> hello
[23:28]  * TheJohn is back (gone 00:13:30)
[23:28] <office> jemaamd aaus deutschand ier?
[23:28] <office> jemmand
[23:29] <bazhang> !de
[23:43] <compilerwriter> How do I make certain my sd card gets all its files written to it I need to do something and then umount it correct?
[23:46] <Zengol> Would my laptop be a good ideal for supporting 9.04, i am running a dual core 2 gig's of ram and an Intel 945GMA.
[23:50] <Dragnslcr> Zengol- Dual core and 2 GB of RAM will run Kubuntu fine. I've heard there have been some issues with the Intel graphics drivers, but I don't know any details
[23:50] <misha> hi
[23:50] <misha> hola
[23:50] <misha> alguien en espanol
[23:51] <bazhang> !es
[23:53] <reagleBRKLN> something happened to my kate (3.5.10) highlighting. I have the python file installed, and for a flash I can see it highlight, but then it show with no highlighting, any hints/clues or way to get debug info?
[23:53] <Zengol> Dragnslcr- Yeah, i just recieved the 9.04 in the mail. But i am not sre wether i want to chance losing what i have done so far.
[23:54] <Dragnslcr> What do you have installed now?
[23:54] <Zengol> Dragnslcr- I tried 9.04 awhile back and it had major problem's with just the desktop lagging out on me.
[23:54] <Zengol> Dragnslcr- I am running 8.10
[23:54] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, that'd probably be the Intel graphics drivers
[23:54] <Zengol> Dragnslcr- The only problem i have with 8.10 is that i get kicked back to teh login screen upon resolution changes.
[23:55] <Zengol> Dragnslcr- I know it has to do with the advanced desktop effect's that run under OpenGL.
[23:55] <Zengol> Dragnslcr- I have switched it off before and it ran fine, i have also switched to Xrender ad it ran fine.
[23:55] <Dragnslcr> You might try checking the forums for more information about the Intel drivers, see if there's been any progress
[23:56] <Zengol> Dragnslcr- By my luck probably no luck at all. Even so. Last time i installed a driver manually i had to re-install Kubuntu completely.
[23:56] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[23:56] <Zengol> I have OpenBox, and Gnome installed here as backup's incase my KDE lock's itself in a resolution chage again.
[23:56] <Dragnslcr> The good thing is that since the Intel drivers are open, it shouldn't take quite as long for some developers to get it fixed up
[23:57] <Zengol> When i ran 8.04 i was able to do quite a few thing's, i could een play WoW at about 16-25 FPS.
[23:58] <Zengol> I ran 9.04 off of teh live CD last night and it didn't seem to show any sign's of the desktop lagout that it had in the beta.
[23:58] <Zengol> Bt i am still wary of actually installing it and losing all of my progress.
[23:59] <Zengol> I might delete my ms partition and try it.
[23:59] <Zengol> I need to re-format that partition anyway due to spyware, haha.