[13:34] <MrKeuner> hi, how can I list packages that doesn't get security updates?
[13:34] <ikonia> curlyears: build host
[13:34] <curlyears> somewhat misleading, to say the least
[13:35] <curlyears> OK, so I was mistaken on that.  My USB issue remains valid
[13:35] <beginner_> ikonia: shouldn't that affect others machines, too? no problems so far, multiple devices, multiple OSes, everything works fine. also, no router config changes at all. and no firewall set up whatsoever.
[13:35] <curlyears> I mean, it's fairly obvious how I made the mistaken identity
[13:36] <ikonia> beginner_: not if the fireall is local to the box you're running it on
[13:36] <ikonia> curlyears: not missleading in the slightest
[13:37] <ikonia> curlyears: if you don't know how to read the output of command - don't use the defailts of the output
[13:37] <curlyears> ikonia:  if ypu say so
[13:37] <curlyears> nnow, about this USB problem:   #hardware?
[13:37] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> When installing Ubuntu, is it NOT recommended to install third-party software for graphis and wi-fi hardware, flash, mp3, and other media?
[13:37] <ikonia> curlyears: well, you don't know how to read the output - and you made assumptions without checking, so dont' use data y ou don't understand
[13:37] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> graphics*
[13:38] <tinyhippo> can someone exlain how Snap packages work
[13:38] <curlyears> ikonia:   yes, as you say.
[13:39] <beginner_> ikonia: (a) just tried another distro, also with very recent kernel/drivers -> exactly the same issue. (b) running them all as live systems from an usb stick, no changes made by me. so shouldn't be a local fw (?)
[13:39] <tinyhippo> in my brain, it works like this: Application X needs library Y v3.5, Application Z also requires library Y, but v3.6, Application A needs library Y - therefore it installs Applications A X and Z, and both Library Y v3.5 and 3.6?
[13:39] <Pici> tinyhippo: yes, but within a container.
[13:39] <ikonia> beginner_: live sticks have firewalls
[13:39] <Pici> tinyhippo: er. I mean each snap package installs all of its dependencies in a container.
[13:40] <curlyears> off to #hardware for a while
[13:40] <beginner_> ikonia: seems badly configured if i cannot access any network resources at all (like the internet)? also, never had problems with previous live versions ... strange. how to disable it (ubuntu 16.04)?
[13:40] <ikonia> beginner_: ping is not "cannot access network resoruces"
[13:41] <Hoang134> what the problem with you ? beginner
[13:41] <ikonia> beginner_: what network resources can you not access ?
[13:41] <beginner_> ikonia: well ping is one thing i've tried. basically every application trying to access the network fails. cannot pingn othe
[13:41] <beginner_> ... sorry
[13:41] <RealPanV> Hello! I am thinking of installing elementary. Where should I go?
[13:42] <ikonia> beginner_: so thats very doubtful
[13:42] <beginner_> ikonia: cannot reach/ping other machines, network shares, etc. pp.
[13:42] <RealPanV> Since this chat only supports its official flavours.
[13:42] <ikonia> RealPanV: elementrary website shows all the support details
[13:42] <RealPanV> Oh thanks!
[13:42] <ikonia> beginner_: so it's more likley you're not on the network
[13:42] <Hoang134> @Real: You should try
[13:42] <RealPanV> How could I forget that
[13:42] <beginner_> ikonia: BUT as i said gateway/dns/etc is correctly set to the router's ip. i've got a nice, valid dhcp-assigned ip as well.
[13:43] <tinyhippo> Pici: so you end up with duplicates?
[13:43] <beginner_> ikonia: also the network manager (and ifconfig/iwconfig) say i'm connected
[13:43] <Pici> tinyhippo: yes.
[13:43] <ikonia> beginner_: so look at your connection details
[13:44] <Pici> tinyhippo: as least insofar as I understand it. #snappy has more details.
[13:44] <beginner_> ikonia: at what specifically?
[13:44] <lwappleby> SDR RECEIVER ? UPDATE USEING GNU
[13:45] <RealPanV> This will be a noob-y question but I am trying to install Ubuntu on a specific partition, on an external hard drive. But whenever I try it, it says that this partition isn't root or a similar message that I cannot provide (official Ubuntu). Should I flag the partition as root first?
[13:46] <ash_workz> `apt-get update` is complaining about how Pinta doesn't have GPG... I think?
[13:47] <GnomeKris> Why can't I enable canonical partners in software&updates?
[13:47] <ikonia> beginner_: your ip, your netmask, your gateway, yor dns
[13:47] <phillyj> can someone  help me remove all my nvidia drivers?
[13:47] <ducasse> beginner_: also check that the default route is correctly set.
[13:48] <Hoang134> ls
[13:48] <RealPanV> phillyj: You dont want any other drivers right?
[13:49] <Hoang134> Anybody use weechat?
[13:50] <ubuntu-studio> can someone tell me what ubuntu version is most user friendly
[13:50] <derbie> Hello! Can someone please help me out with fixing this issue, i can't google a solution for it http://pastebin.com/2DiVUrQ2
[13:50] <OerHeks> phillyj, go into the driver tool, and select nouveau, then run sudo apt-get autoclean or autoremove in terminal
[13:50] <gargamel> gargamel, hey
[13:50] <beginner_> ikonia, ducasse: everything looks very fine, checked multiple times before asking here ... (checked again few seconds ago :D)
[13:50] <gargamel> pmatulis, morning
[13:50] <ikonia> beginner_: what is your current machine ip
[13:51] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> trying to ubuntu on vm and select download update while installing but it doesn't have internet for some reason.
[13:51] <Hoang134> exit
[13:51] <pmatulis> gargamel, morning
[13:52] <erwan_> heya
[13:53] <beginner_> ikonia: <IP_ADDRESS> (according to ifconfig, seemingly assigned via dhcp). router is <IP_ADDRESS>, every other machine <IP_ADDRESS>x. default route and dns is set to <IP_ADDRESS>. netmask <IP_ADDRESS>
[13:53] <erwan_> is there anyone here that is confident with cloud-init ?
[13:53] <RealPanV> BrAsS_mOnKeY: I believe you need to do something in the VM settings, I think you can't use the same network card at the same time with your normal OS and the VM if I am correct.
[13:53] <ikonia> beginner_: and what is the exact command you are using
[13:53] <RealPanV> I have to use VMs for a long time so I cant provide anything more
[13:53] <erwan_> I'm facing a strange issue when it tries to setup ssh and complain the user doesn't exist while it is supposed to create it
[13:54] <derbie> Hello! Can someone please help me out with fixing this issue, i can't google a solution for it http://pastebin.com/2DiVUrQ2
[13:54] <gargamel> pmatulis, ha
[13:54] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> Thank you RealPanV.
[13:55] <OerHeks> beginner_, some strange connection issues can be solved by restarting the router, have you tried that?
[13:56] <beginner_> OerHeks: no way, connection is needed by other machines on the network. (and works 100% fine for them ...)
[13:56] <ikonia> beginner_: and what is the exact command you are using
[13:56] <RealPanV> BrAsS_mOnKeY: Did I actually help? My pleasure.
[13:58] <beginner_> ikonia: network manager gui "connection information" thingy. ifconfig, iwconfig, etc. all say the same
[13:59] <ikonia> beginner_: the exact ping command
[14:00] <Dumle29> So if my laptop has been suspended, and then opened again, putting in the charger makes it dog slow
[14:01] <Dumle29> like, really really slow
[14:01] <Dumle29> a restart fixes it, but I
[14:01] <Dumle29> But I'd prefer a more permanent fix :/
[14:01] <Dumle29> any tips?
[14:01] <beginner_> ikonia: well ... "ping <IP_ADDRESS>", "ping www.google.com", "ping <IP_ADDRESS>x" (other machine's IP, network storage etc., reachable from the network)
[14:02] <beginner_> ikonia: i can also just open firefox -> cannot reach *anything*. no matter which host name or ip, which port, protocol, etc.
[14:02] <popey> Dumle29: leave top running and see what's eating the cpu? (I suspect I know the answer - either the kswapd process or one of the idleinject ones)
[14:03] <GnomeKris> Created my new ext4 partition, now trying to copy/paste from the ntfs to ext4, I can't paste. The option is grayed out in gui
[14:03] <ikonia> beginner_: so that suggests you're not on the network
[14:03] <popey> GnomeKris: gparted doens't work like that. you can copy like-for-like partitions
[14:04] <popey> GnomeKris: or you could use a tool like rsync or cp to do a file based copy
[14:04] <popey> GnomeKris: but if you use parted, it will expect target to be the same as source.
[14:04] <GnomeKris> I'm just using the files application gui
[14:04] <Dumle29> popey: A onedrive daemon
[14:04] <beginner_> ikonia: yes .... that is my problem. the connection is there, connection setup (dhcp, gateway, etc. etc.) seems to work fine, connection seems steady after that, but i cannot reach anything on the network ...
[14:04] <GnomeKris> cp would probably work best though huh?
[14:04] <Dumle29> popey: But only rarel
[14:04] <Dumle29> rarely
[14:05] <beginner_> ikonia: seems the same problem (same symptoms at least) have occurred some times before (found some posts from 2010 and 2013 - they all said to upgrade kernel/driver, haha ...).
[14:05] <ikonia> beginner_: is this a wireless network ?
[14:05] <Dumle29> popey: Maybe some sort of weird powersaving state glitch?
[14:05] <GnomeKris> like "cp -r source/directory/* /destination/directory"
[14:05] <GnomeKris> or so?
[14:05] <popey> GnomeKris: I'd use cp -a
[14:05] <GnomeKris> -a is archive though?
[14:06] <beginner_> ikonia: yeah.
[14:06] <GnomeKris> I want recursive and to retain permissions
[14:06] <ikonia> beginner_: so thats the first thing I'd be looking at is verifying if you are actually on that wireles network still
[14:06] <ikonia> a simple test is to re-request a new ip from dhclient
[14:06] <popey> GnomeKris: yes, read the man page
[14:06] <GnomeKris> I'll be taking ownership and creating a permanent mount point for the new partition when I'm done.
[14:07] <GnomeKris> I did, that's why I'm asking. I should rephrase...Why archive?
[14:07] <paws> how can i install xml parser and mb string in ubuntu 16.04 ?
[14:07] <popey> GnomeKris: look at the very next line
[14:08] <GnomeKris> --attributes-only?
[14:08] <popey>        -a, --archive
[14:08] <popey>               same as -dR --preserve=all
[14:08] <gargamel> pmatulis, bro :)
[14:08] <GnomeKris> ah
[14:08] <popey>                 ^ the next line
[14:09] <GnomeKris> I missed that some how
[14:09] <popey> yes, I know :)
[14:09] <GnomeKris> I plan on wiping out the ntfs partition entirely. -a will accomplish what I'm after without loss of data?
[14:10] <beginner_> ikonia: you think i'm very stupid, don't you. well i cannot blame you but in fact, everything seems in place, even the wireless network i'm (allegedly) connected to. (network name, AP's mac address/bssid, ...)
[14:10] <beginner_> ikonia: just ran "dhclient -r wlp7s0" and "dhclient wlp7s0", got the same ip again.
[14:10] <popey> GnomeKris: if you copy everything, sure
[14:11] <GnomeKris> I plan to use a wildcard copy. like "cp -a /source/directory/* /dest/directory/"
[14:11] <GnomeKris> popey^^
[14:11] <ikonia> beginner_: I never said you where stupid at all
[14:11] <ikonia> beginner_: what are you talking about
[14:13] <popey> GnomeKris: I'd just cp -a source/directory /dest/directory
[14:13] <popey> GnomeKris: so you pick up hidden files in the source
[14:13] <beginner_> ikonia: i know. you just talk to me like most people talk to rather unknowledgable /unintelligent or plainly stupid people. as i said, cannot blame you, since what i'm telling seems dumb. but hey i cannot explain it either, hence why i came here :D
[14:13] <GnomeKris> No wildcard needed then?
[14:13] <ikonia> beginner_: I'm not going to engage with your futher, I've been nothing but polite and given you debug / walk through advice to work out the problem
[14:13] <GnomeKris> and it'll copy recursive directories?\
[14:14] <popey> GnomeKris: depends what's in the folder. try it and see
[14:14] <paws> how can i install xml parser and mb string in ubuntu 16.04 ? I did apt-get install php-xmlrpc but it still not working.. do i have to change anything in the php.ini ?
[14:14] <popey> paws: php-xml-parser isn't it?
[14:14] <GnomeKris> true, it's copy, not cut, so it's not like the source is going anywhere yet.
[14:14] <GnomeKris> excuse me, it's copy, not move.
[14:15] <popey> paws: also php-mbstring
[14:16] <paws> i did that popey
[14:16] <paws> ohhh php-xml-parser i see
[14:17] <paws> lol
[14:17] <beginner_> ikonia: i tried to be polite, too. thanks anyways, have a nice day. :-)
[14:18] <paws> what about php ZIP support? what do i need for that?
[14:18] <popey> paws: php-zip
[14:18] <popey> paws: apt-cache search php | grep zip
[14:18] <akik> beginner_: can you list "ip addr list" and "ip route list" in a pastebin?
[14:19] <akik> i know it can be hard without network :)
[14:21] <curlyears> OK, those guys in #hardware definitely knnow their stuff, but their suggestions re: my problem were pretty lame
[14:22] <beginner_> akik: sorry doing that "setting up an old laptop" on the side, no time for usb-stick-copy-paste-carrying-stuff" :-(
[14:22] <beginner_> maybe later or tomorrow, gotta get some work done
[14:22] <MacroMan> If I set the permission of files on a network drive, does Windows see those permissions?
[14:27] <cannibal> hi
[14:28] <cannibal> none of my shortcut keys work
[14:29] <cannibal> using ubuntu mate
[14:29] <Frede___1> How do i connect to a wireless accesspoint in ubuntu using the command line?
[14:30] <nomic> https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/configuration/wireless/wireless-cli.md  SETTING WIFI UP VIA THE COMMAND LINE
[14:30] <nomic> http://askubuntu.com/questions/461825/connect-to-wifi-from-command-line
[14:30] <nomic> connect to wifi from command line  ^
[14:30] <curlyears> Windoes and linux use entirely different file permisssions protocols, but if the user the networkl shares through ghas permissions to files, then the Windows user can usse them.  If not, they're protected from the Windows user (IIRC)
[14:31] <curlyears> nomic:  did you know there is a #raspberrypi channel?
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> !who | curlyears
[14:32] <phillyj> I want to remove my old 14.4 installation on my SSD boot drive (file system) and install 16.04. I have USB live-install ready. Do I just run the live-USB so that I can start from scratch?
[14:32] <EriC^^> phillyj: do you need anything from your old installation?
[14:33] <phillyj> i have my /home on another HDD, EriC^^
[14:33] <curlyears> good point, lotuspsychjelot:  are you aware of any "filter driver" sorts of things under ubuntu that would correctly use the USB ports on tyhe front panel, but not correctly use the USB ports on the rear panel?
[14:33] <nomic> oh
[14:33] <EriC^^> phillyj: ok, you can get the list of installed programs if you want and auto reinstall them later
[14:33] <nomic> can't join automatically curlyear
[14:34] <phillyj> EriC^^: so I can just run my live-USB and it will show me what to do, right?
[14:34] <curlyears> nomic:   what do you mean?
[14:34] <EriC^^> phillyj: do you want to keep them?
[14:35] <phillyj> EriC^^: no
[14:35] <nomic> i kno, curlyears
[14:35] <nomic> that there is a raspberry pi channel
[14:35] <EriC^^> phillyj: ok, just run the live usb and choose to erase the disk and fresh install if just 1 hdd is in there, or manually partition
[14:35] <curlyears> nomic:  n what do you mean by "can't join automatically?"
[14:35] <EriC^^> from the Something else menu
[14:36] <cannibal> my ctrl and alt keys are mapped to shift for some reason
[14:36] <cannibal> how can i fix this
[14:38] <OerHeks> cannibal, what did you do to map them to shift?
[14:39] <t1mp> hello
[14:39] <t1mp> I just received my brand new Dell XPS13 with Ubuntu
[14:40] <t1mp> I like to upgrade it from 14.04 to 16.04.. according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes that should be almost automatic when I enable notifications for new LTS versions, but update manager tells me there are no updates
[14:40] <t1mp> I guess that notification will only come for 16.04.1?
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade | t1mp
[14:41] <cannibal> oer
[14:41] <t1mp> so if I want it now, I have to upgrade to 15.10 first?
[14:41] <cannibal> OerHeks,  nothing
[14:41] <t1mp> and then to 16.04?
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> t1mp: clean install
[14:41] <cannibal> OerHeks, if i try to change shutdown shortcut to ctrl alt del it sees the keys as shift + del
[14:42] <t1mp> lotuspsychje: why? Is it likely to break if I upgrade to 15.10 (which the software updater offers), and then to 16.04?
[14:42] <t1mp> I finally have a laptop with ubuntu pre-installed and now I have to do a clean install
[14:42] <lotuspsychje> t1mp: not very recommended to go from lts to non-lts liek that
[14:43] <akik> t1mp: have you made a backup of it? it could have some custom dell installed software in it
[14:43] <lotuspsychje> t1mp: wait the LTS way on 16.04.1 perhaps
[14:43] <kiran_> Is there a package manager for ubuntu?
[14:43] <t1mp> akik: I didn't make a backup, but there are some dell packages and ppas installed
[14:43] <akik> t1mp: 14.04 is supported until 2019 btw
[14:44] <t1mp> kiran_: apt, and there are graphical tools too
[14:44] <polyxena> I've recently installed 16.04lts.  Installed xpad (note taking program) from repos.  "search your computer" does not find it.  Why?
[14:44] <Olotila> is there a command to find out location in network wise?
[14:44] <t1mp> akik: yeah, but I need 16.04, for ubuntu phone development and I like to play with lxd
[14:44] <Olotila> I am in NAS
[14:44] <GnomeKris> Can I claim ownership of a new partition with "sudo chown -R kristopher:kristopher /media/partion/"
[14:44] <GnomeKris> or so?
[14:44] <lotuspsychje> polyxena: dash doesnt show xpad?
[14:45] <Guest248> exit
[14:45] <polyxena> if dash=search your computer, then no.
[14:45] <Hulio> hi
[14:45] <lotuspsychje> polyxena: what happens when you start xpad from terminal?
[14:46] <polyxena> it starts fine
[14:46] <Hulio> hi how to make ubuntu auto login?'
[14:46] <Hulio> i need it automatic login
[14:46] <Hulio> is there a way to change it from terminal?
[14:46] <lotuspsychje> polyxena: does the icon show on your launcher after launch?
[14:46] <polyxena> yes
[14:46] <EriC^^> Hulio: go to settings > accounts
[14:47] <EriC^^> and turn automatic login on
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> polyxena: stick it to persisent on your launcher then?
[14:47] <polyxena> lotuspsychje:  will try it
[14:48] <akik> GnomeKris: yes that works fine
[14:48] <Hulio> thanks dude
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> polyxena: does xpad show in /usr/share/applications ?
[14:48] <EriC^^> Hulio: no problem
[14:48] <akik> GnomeKris: there's probably your username in between media and the partition
[14:48] <polyxena> lotuspsychje:  worked.  thanks.
[14:48] <Hulio> EriC^^, you're genieus
[14:48] <Hulio> EriC^^, you're very smart man
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | EriC^^
[14:49] <GnomeKris> akik, I didn't mean to exclude that part.
[14:49] <GnomeKris> my bad
[14:53] <t1mp> ah, if I configure update manager to warn for LTS release only, update-manager -d gives me the option to go from 14.04 to 16.04 LTS
[14:53] <t1mp> let's try that.
[14:53] <k1l> !ltsupgrade | t1mp
[14:53] <t1mp> yes, I saw that. But I prefer not to wait until the automatic upgrade in july :)
[14:54] <akik> t1mp: that was the warning
[14:54] <polyxena> can "search your computer" display programs as list and not icons?
[14:54] <t1mp> someone needs to test if it works ;)
[14:54] <tytan> Hello everyone. I just saw that Bethesda is working on bringing DOOM on vulkan. I huess this means it could potentially be played on linux based operating systems. How do I install Vulkan in Ubuntu 16.04? =)
[14:54] <akik> t1mp: backups are good in this case :)
[14:55] <t1mp> well I got the laptop 1h ago, so not much data on it that I can lose
[14:56] <akik> t1mp: time is of value too, not having to figure out why your hw is not working after the default installation
[14:56] <Switches> @t1mp aslong as you have read the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes and have backups of anything you should be good to go.
[14:56] <OerHeks> polyxena, install classicmenu-indicator to get a gnome2.x like menu on the top panel right side
[14:56] <OerHeks> !info classicmenu-indicator
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> tytan: seems like usefull here: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-x/+archive/ubuntu/vulkan
[14:57] <tytan> lotuspsychje: Oh, thank you very much! =]
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> tytan: there is also #gamingonlinux if you wanna be up to date on gaming news/linux
[14:57] <tytan> nice to know
[14:58] <akik> tytan: i saw a news article that someone got doom 4 running under wine, smoothly
[14:58] <Switches> @tytan they aren't releasing for Linux and as Vulkan isn't platform specific (and still very early beta). I doubt it will run natively. But maybe Wine will have it
[14:59] <OerHeks> tytan, you have been watching Doom running on GTX 1080 with Vulkan API ?
[14:59] <polyxena> OerHeks:  thanks.  I'll try that.
[14:59] <tytan> OerHeks: That's what I've seen on the internet, yes. I currently have a GTX 980 Ti which is fine too ^^
[15:00] <OerHeks> tytan, it is awesome indeed, 200 fps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T_zaNqAqzY
[15:01] <tytan> OerHeks: I dualboot with Windows 7 at the moment and I played the open beta. If it runs on linux natively, it would be awesome
[15:01] <tevin> django
[15:01] <tevin> #django
[15:01] <phillyj> i'm install 16.04 and am setting the partitions. Why did the installation want to make changes to my LIVE-USB? It is putting the swap in it...
[15:02] <someone235> Can anyone please help me with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2323825&p=13486642#post13486642
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> phillyj: are you only seeing your liveusb media instead of your internal harddisk?
[15:02] <OerHeks> someone235, typo > nnameserver
[15:02] <curlyears> hmmm
[15:03] <someone235> OerHeks, I don't think it's typo, I think it's new line
[15:03] <phillyj> lotuspsychje: no, all my HDDs are seen; I  have 1 SSD and 3 HDD on my PC
[15:04] <someone235> OerHeks, I've checked resolve.conf and it's written OK.
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> phillyj: try the auto partioning on your ssd?
[15:04] <OerHeks> someone235, and resolve.conf should not be editted when using networkmanager, AFAIK
[15:05] <phillyj> lotuspsychje: after setting my SSD with mount point and clicking "Install Now", I am asked to allow putting SWAP on my live-usb. I didn't select such an option
[15:05] <lotuspsychje> phillyj: are you not manually partitioning?
[15:06] <phillyj> lotuspsychje: yes
[15:06] <phillyj> lotuspsychje: i selected to install by "something else"
[15:06] <lotuspsychje> phillyj: try going back and automatic partition your ssd
[15:06] <someone235> OerHeks, it doesn't work even after I'm stopping networkmanager and then starting again
[15:07] <akik> someone235: there's a place in network manager for your dns servers
[15:07] <phillyj> lotuspsychje: what is automaticpartition?
[15:07] <lotuspsychje> phillyj: do you want your ssd installed fully with ubuntu?
[15:07] <firman> Anyone want to give me explanation about this error log? http://paste.ubuntu.com/16346705/
[15:07] <phillyj> lotuspsychje: yes
[15:07] <someone235> akik, OerHeks, Actually, I don't see how it's related to my issue. <IP_ADDRESS> is Google dns server. How it can help me connect to wifi?
[15:08] <OerHeks> someone235, this post handles dns and networkmanager, use networkmanager and leave resolv.conf, or set it static yourself and remove networkmanager..
[15:08] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/623940/network-manager-how-to-stop-nm-updating-etc-resolv-conf
[15:08] <phillyj> lotuspsychje: it should have the / mount point; my /home will be on another HDD
[15:08] <OerHeks> someone235, akik is right, use the networkmanager gui to setup your wifi, auto dhcp and manual dns
[15:09] <someone235> OerHeks, yes, but how setting dns server should help me in the first place?
[15:10] <akik> someone235: you  should first check whether you get an ip address from your access point and can not ping it. not sure why it was given as a first choice at ubuntu forums
[15:10] <jka_> anyone
[15:10] <lotuspsychje> !partitioning | phillyj
[15:11] <OerHeks> someone235, YOU came here with a dns issue > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2323825&p=13486642#post13486642
[15:11] <lotuspsychje> firman: having wifi issues?
[15:11] <OerHeks> don't turn it around ..
[15:12] <n1md4> hi.  does any one know of a hardware testing 'distro' i want something i can put on usb/cd boot a machine with, it run a bunch of tests, and prints pass or fail
[15:12] <n1md4> anything like that?
[15:12] <someone235> OerHeks, sorry, I didn't mean to use the #
[15:12] <jka_> k
[15:12] <jka_> hello
[15:12] <lotuspsychje> n1md4: put ubuntu on an usb, if hardware fails, logs will show
[15:12] <someone235> OerHeks, I meant to ask about the problem in the top post
[15:13] <jka_> any server establishing tutorials
[15:13] <lotuspsychje> !server | jka_
[15:13] <jka_> links to them
[15:13] <n1md4> lotuspsychje: yeah, i'm thinking of a minimal ubuntu, with some choice tools
[15:13] <jka_> @ubottu thx
 thx
[15:14] <lotuspsychje> n1md4: there are some good testing packages out there like bonnie++
[15:14] <lotuspsychje> n1md4: depending what hardware specific you like to test
[15:14] <n1md4> lotuspsychje: right, that's what i was thinking, i'd like to memtest, bonnie+, and cpu burn
[15:14] <GnomeKris> http://pastebin.com/20ymtVkL Is this all I need in fstab to make the mount point permanent?
[15:15] <n1md4> well, as much hardware as possible; excluding anything to do with video; not interested in that.
[15:15] <erwan_> n1md4, cpuburn doesn't perform any benchmark but a heating test
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> n1md4: you want it for 1 machine or several?
[15:15] <MrKeuner> can I see which packages are not under security-updates maintenance?
[15:15] <n1md4> erwan_: just a suggestion, I'd love to hear more.
[15:16] <jesk> hi
[15:16] <n1md4> lotuspsychje: several, it can be quite generic
[15:16] <someone235> akik, I don't have an IP address
[15:16] <firman> no but its found in kern.log after random freeze, and i downloading something with uget(with aria2), lotuspsychje
[15:16] <someone235> akik, I'm not connected to the access point
[15:16] <phillyj> lotuspsychje: hmm, never mind, i think. this USB has a linux-swap in it for some unknown reason
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> !details | firman
[15:16] <OerHeks> MrKeuner, that will be none, i guess?
[15:17] <jesk> when trying to install Ubuntu Server 16.04 LTS the installer says "Failed to retrieve the preconfiguration file.....file:///cdrom/preseed/ubuntu-server.seed".
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> jesk: perhaps the #ubuntu-server channel might know this?
[15:17] <jesk> when I skip this error I have to install manually but then it fails to detect my NICs
[15:17] <OerHeks> jesk, check the md5sum of the iso ?
[15:17] <OerHeks> !md5sum
[15:18] <akik> someone235: when you do "rfkill list" does it say that something is blocked?
[15:19] <firman> whole system is freeze, keyboard, mouse, screen all of them not responding, i did nothing and cant do anything except press and hold the power button, i am ran ubuntu 15.10 with asus x200ma, huawei mobile wifi used as wired device, lotuspsychje
[15:20] <jesk> the md5 sum is ok
[15:20] <lotuspsychje> firman: was this an upgrade or clean install?
[15:20] <jesk> is there anything what the server OS can do what the normal ubuntu distri cant?
[15:20] <jesk> no clue about the differences
[15:20] <firman> clean install, lotuspsychje
[15:20] <rick6860> can someone help me navigate the install of Miro media player?
[15:21] <someone235> akik, nothing is blocked
[15:21] <lotuspsychje> firman: have you tried a 16.04 liveusb yet?
[15:22] <akik> someone235: can you list the wireless networks with "sudo iwlist your_interface scan" ?
[15:22] <akik> someone235: maybe try restarting the access point?
[15:23] <firman> not i dont yet, in this country, connection not fast and i waiting for some major bug fixed, its still in downloading process

[15:23] <lotuspsychje> firman: ok wanna pastebin your syslog with us?
[15:24] <lotuspsychje> firman: since when did 15.10 start to freeze?
[15:24] <firman> oke, on whats point its exactly? xorg, dpkg or auth lotuspsychje?
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> firman: pastebin /var/log/syslog please
[15:25] <firman> oke, <lotuspsychje>
[15:25] <someone235> akik, I don't have direct access to the router
[15:26] <akik> someone235: can you try connecting through your cell phone?
[15:26] <someone235> you mean to use it as hotspot?
[15:26] <akik> someone235: yes
[15:27] <akik> someone235: that way you can test where the problem could be
[15:28] <rick6860> how do I Add the PPA as a source.?
[15:28] <OerHeks> !addppa
[15:28] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> PPA! O.O
[15:30] <tjvc> Should I avoid using the service command to control systemd services in Ubuntu 16.04?
[15:31] <akik> tjvc: yes
[15:31] <MrKeuner> OerHeks, not correct. there may be packages you installed from other repositories, packages that end their life of support, etc.
[15:31] <akik> tjvc: systemctl is the one
[15:33] <tjvc> akik: Thanks. Is there a reason why service still works though, for example for Apache?
[15:33] <akik> tjvc: can you see /etc/init.d/apache on your system?
[15:34] <tjvc> akik: Yes.
[15:34] <akik> tjvc: ok so service is reading that file
[15:35] <phillyj> i finished installing 16.04 but I want to use my old /home that is on my other HDD. How do I move it?
[15:35] <R0binh00d> Some of the service scripts may still be present in the directory structure so that service will read them use them, but thn again with systemd, that should not be the default method of dealing with services
[15:35] <R0binh00d> so akik I agree with you ...
[15:36] <akik> then there are some compatibility layers in systemd for init scripts
[15:36] <lotuspsychje> !movehome | phillyj
[15:36] <someone235> akik, I don't find toothpick in order to put the micro sim in my smartphone. Do you have other idea?
[15:37] <akik> someone235: hehe that was my best choice for checking whether the wireless in your laptop works
[15:37] <R0binh00d> yo lotuspsychje you still here? When do you sleep man? :-)
[15:37] <lotuspsychje> !life | R0binh00d
[15:38] <tjvc> akik: Ah OK, just reading up on this. Looks like systemd is backwards compatible with SysV init scripts, which I guess explains why systemctl also works.
[15:39] <phillyj> lotuspsychje: i have my old files on my other HDD (/home). I just want to have my file system keep all those files and use that as the "new" /home
[15:39] <someone235> akik, I'll go to the grocery to buy a toothpick :)
[15:40] <R0binh00d> !love | lotuspsychje
[15:40] <lotuspsychje> R0binh00d: sorry im already taken :p
[15:41] <R0binh00d> :P
[15:42] <fub> I want to install a minimal ubuntu on a working machine at home, so I choose to take the ubuntu server image. My cpu supports 64bit (intel core i5), but I can only find amd64 images, do they also work?
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> fub: amd64 is the 64bit image
[15:42] <firman> lotuspsychje, pleas wait, "bad gateway"
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> fub: its just a general name for it
[15:43] <somsip> !minimal | fub (is the most minimal)
[15:43] <fub> somsip: is there an advantage of this over the server image?
[15:43] <lotuspsychje> firman: can you tell me when 15.10 started to freeze?
[15:43] <somsip> fub: depends how minimal you want it to be
[15:43] <fub> It's not because of the size, I just dont want a GUI etc installed by default
[15:43] <fub> somsip: I want to install only what I need
[15:44] <ioria> !mini
[15:45] <somsip> fub: that's what the minimal install offers
[15:45] <fub> somsip: so what the difference to the server version?
[15:45] <somsip> fub: server installs some server packages AIUI
[15:45] <firman> its random, but ussualy when i runing firefox too long
[15:46] <ioria> fub, for starter, it's a net install
[15:46] <firman> when watching livestreaming, youtube, vlc, document viewer, lotuspsychje
[15:46] <lotuspsychje> firman: did it always was like this? or did you have better times on 15.10?
[15:47] <fub> all right, then I hope it detects my wlan adapter, it's an Alfa AWUS30H so it can pull packages.
[15:47] <fub> is there any way to check this before?
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> fub: mini is pretty advanced, you might encouter unwanted stuff
[15:47] <somsip> fub: not sure - never used minimal with wifi. I'd suggest care should be taken
[15:47] <fub> lotuspsychje: unwanted stuff? :D
[15:48] <firman> its was happens from i install it. never change, but many issue such freeze when lid off can solved by google, lotuspsychje, i think its because my computer is not on verified list in ubuntu device
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> fub: like installing needed network packages etc
[15:48] <firman> sorry for english :)
[15:49] <fub> lotuspsychje: as long as there is a module for my wlan adapter I'm fine with this
[15:49] <lotuspsychje> firman: perhaps install a lighter ubuntu flavor, or buy a 16.04 usb stick from ubuntu's website (if you have slow internet)
[15:49] <ioria> fub, it gives you the choice to manual configure your adapter , if not happen automatically , as you said the problem could be the module
[15:50] <firman> okay, thx, ill try your advice lotuspsychje
[15:50] <somsip> fub: possiblilty is to install to a VM first to check
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> fub: a good idea could be putting some drivers on usb already for your specific chipset?
[15:50] <firman> and thanks for your attention, its meaning a lot, lotuspsychje
[15:51] <fub> It's based on the Realtek RTL8187 chipset, I think this is built in.
[15:51] <fub> I will try it
[15:51] <lotuspsychje> firman: 15.10 is gonna end support on the near future, so best to choose another version
[15:52] <firman> okay, i got it, lotuspsychje
[15:52] <lotuspsychje> fub: another way is installing a regular ubuntu flavor, and stripping it down to you needs as you wish (purge)
[15:52] <soutce47> hi guys, i am running ubuntu 15.10 in a lxc container and i am getting problems running localed: systemd-localed.service: Failed at step NETWORK spawning permission denied
[15:53] <soutce47> the above comes from journalctl
[15:53] <soutce47> generally localectl status just hangs then times out
[15:53] <soutce47> any ideas what i can do allow permission for network spawning?
[15:54] <phillyj> whats the desktop environment on 16.4 known as?
[15:54] <EriC^^> phillyj: unity
[15:54] <somsip> phillyj: unity
[15:55] <firman> one more question lotuspsychje, which better between upgrade and clean install?
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> firman: well for your case, clean install as upgrade needs faster connection
[15:56] <lotuspsychje> firman: let the 16.04 download finish and burn the iso on stick, then clean install
[15:56] <firman> okay... :D lotuspsychje
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> firman: how fast is your 'slow' connection exactly?
[15:58] <jak2000> hi all
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> jak2000: welcome, how can we assist you?
[15:59] <jak2000> i need create a variable(environment) named: CONECTOR_HOME and point to: /home/jak/conector  how do it?
[16:00] <firman> in midnight to 6:00 am 60 kbps, and then slower, lotuspsychje
[16:00] <somsip> jak2000: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> firman: ok thats slow..better choose the safest clean install way
[16:02] <fub> lotuspsychje: so.. it looks like he does not even try to connect to the wireless lan, just trying to set up the dhcp stuff
[16:02] <firman> yeah, its better, lotuspsychje
[16:03] <fub> I opened a shell in the installer and wrote the /etc/network/interfaces, but there is no ifconfig to activate the interface
[16:03] <Pici> /25/25
[16:03] <ioria> fub, no, you have start the installation and follow it
[16:03] <ioria> *to
[16:04] <fub> ioria: I did, but there is no step for setting up a wireless connection
[16:04] <fub> ioria: I'm trying the minimal install
[16:04] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> how to I leave tty1?
[16:04] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> do*
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> fub: thats the unwanted stuff i meant :p
[16:05] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> tty2, i mean
[16:05] <aliefchandra> testing koneksi
[16:05] <fub> hehe okay
[16:05] <fub> then I'm going to use the server install
[16:05] <fub> does this have the wireless stuff?
[16:05] <lotuspsychje> fub: server install should handle network better yes
[16:05] <ioria> fub, mmm, you need a cable connection, then
[16:06] <lotuspsychje> fub: but ask yourself first, do you really need ubuntu server?
[16:06] <fub> lotuspsychje: I dont want to install all the GUI stuff. I want to install i3 later
[16:07] <fub> so I think the server install is cleaner, isnt it?
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> fub: why dont you strip down a xubuntu or so, purge all unwanted stuff and set i3 to autologin?
[16:07] <braycep> #join ubuntu-cn
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> fub: xubuntu or lubuntu are pretty light by default
[16:07] <fub> lotuspsychje: mhh
[16:07] <lotuspsychje> fub: installing i3 on a server sounds a bit weird...
[16:08] <fub> lotuspsychje: yeah this is not going to be a server :>
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> fub: thats what i mean..
[16:08] <R0binh00d> %c
[16:08] <ducasse> fub: if you want a really minimal install and don't mind a little manual work, you can use debootstrap.
[16:08] <jak2000> somsip: how to know where is installed java? thanks
[16:08] <somsip> fub: the correct (but tricky) way would be to use minimal. The easier (but messier) way would be to strip down from a simple install. To use server install on a desktop is wrong each way
[16:08] <braycep> #join help
[16:08] <zincrokx> hi
[16:08] <R0binh00d> AME
[16:09] <fub> So when I take the desktop version and strip it down. How do I know what to strip down?
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> fub: unwanted packages of your choice
[16:09] <somsip> jak2000: 'whereis java' will tell you where it is installed but might not be what you need
[16:09] <fub> I dont know all that additional stuff ubuntu adds for the desktop
[16:09] <fub> lotuspsychje: so then I have to go through dpkg for every single package?
[16:09] <kunifa> hello. installed gnome to ubuntu 16.04. there's no menu entry to switch users - how to enable that?
[16:09] <squinty> braycep,   /j #<channel name here>
[16:09] <braycep> #join ubuntu-cn
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> fub: sudo apt-get purge package1 package2 package3
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> fub: pretty fast :p
[16:10] <EriC^^> fub: you could download the manifest for the server and manifest for the desktop and run a quick comparison
[16:10] <squinty> braycep,  /join #ubuntu-cn
[16:10] <fub> lotuspsychje: I know, I know. But I first have to find out what to strip.
[16:10] <braycep> squinty,thank you very much
[16:10] <ducasse> fub: if you install from the desktop image, you can remove the desktop stuff and other tasks with tasksel.
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> fub: on a xubuntu or lubuntu its all minimal already
[16:10] <squinty> braycep, yw
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> fub: if you want more strip down, erase more...
[16:11] <fub> all right, going for lubuntu then. thanks.
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> fub: then purge all gui stuff you dont gonna use, abiword,..
[16:12] <fub> abiword?
[16:12] <EriC^^> i thought the server image and desktop image were pretty much the same just without the desktop?
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> fub: yeah i mean all the packages that comes by default on lubuntu
[16:12] <fub> okay, never heard this word before, sorry ;)
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> EriC^^: hmm not really, server got more specific stuff server needs i think
[16:13] <EriC^^> ah right, openssh and the likes
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> !info abiword | fub
[16:13] <somsip> EriC^^: and...https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#Ubuntu_Server
[16:13] <EriC^^> somsip: thanks reading
[16:13] <phillyj> im trying to edit my fstab file to point my system to see my "old" /home as my new /home directory. Do I use the mount point that gparted gives me for this partition?
[16:14] <jak2000> somsip: export CONECTOR_HOME=/home/jak/conector/bin   and typed: echo "${CONECTOR_HOME}"   and return me: /home/jak/conector/bin    how to do it permanently?  thanks
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> !fstab | phillyj
[16:14] <fiter> Hi everyone
[16:14] <fiter> Have you tried ubuntu 16.04?
[16:14] <somsip> jak2000: I expect you'd need to spell connector correctly. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#Persistent_environment_variables
[16:15] <phillyj> lotuspsychje: my mount point has such a long name, like this: /media/PCname/21243c26....
[16:15] <akik> phillyj: use lsblk to see the uuids of your partitions
[16:15] <akik> phillyj: oops sorry blkid
[16:16] <akik> phillyj: then use that uuid in fstab
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> !blkid | phillyj suggested by akik
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> fiter: you can download 16.04 from ubuntu.com and test yourself in a liveusb if you wish
[16:20] <jak2000> somsip: understand i need edit ~/.profile right? editad and is empty why?
[16:20] <jak2000> its correct?
[16:22] <EriC^^> jak2000: what's up?
[16:22] <fiter> lotuspsychje, I know. But liveusb is one and the persistent ubuntu and using it every day is another. That's why I asked about it.
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> fiter: the one you use is 14.04?
[16:24] <jak2000> EriC^^ its correct if i try edit ~/.profile  its empty? is correct?
[16:26] <EriC^^> jak2000: it shouldn't be empty
[16:26] <fiter> lotuspsychje, I was using Ubuntu 15.04, but when decided to look at Ubuntu Mate 16.04. Installed it, and it's completely terrible as for me.
[16:27] <lotuspsychje> fiter: can you define terrible?
[16:27] <EriC^^> jak2000: there's a sample .profile in /etc/skel/.profile
[16:28] <fiter> lotuspsychje, terrible means that it's unconvenient for me ( I mean Mate graphical environment)
[16:28] <someone235> akik, it works great from my hotspot
[16:28] <fiter> lotuspsychje, Unity looks much more better
[16:29] <OerHeks> fiter, try other flavors, some love mate, some don't.
[16:29] <akik> someone235: have you changed the wireless security protocol in network manager?
[16:29] <someone235> akik, no
[16:30] <akik> someone235: sorry, out of ideas
[16:31] <lotuspsychje> someone235: try to re-ask your issue in channel mate, other volunteers might know
[16:33] <someone235> lotuspsychje, I've asked here, in askubuntu, and ubuntuforums, where else should I ask?
[16:33] <lotuspsychje> someone235: its ok the re-ask in here once in a while
[16:34] <lotuspsychje> someone235: other timeszones, other users can be online to help
[16:34] <someone235> lotuspsychje, this is what I do :)
[16:34] <arioBarzan> what is the unity version of Xenial Xerus? unity 7?
[16:35] <lotuspsychje> !info unity | arioBarzan
[16:35] <OerHeks> someone235, you came here with a dns issue > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2323825&p=13486642#post13486642 but that is not how you should do it
[16:35] <OerHeks> setup wireless in networkmanager with these dns servers
[16:36] <OerHeks> someone235, don't populate resolv.conf like that
[16:37] <someone235> OerHeks, I've accidentally linked to a specific post instead of the topic. The topic is about the wifi issue, not DNS.
[16:37] <fub> lotuspsychje: got lubuntu running now. Let the strippin' begin :>
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> !yay | fub
[16:37] <OerHeks> someone235, oke, then repeat your actual question please.
[16:37] <someone235> OerHeks, yes, I've seen that there are comments on the file saying I shouldn't so it :)
[16:37] <lotuspsychje> someone235: why does your kernel show .35? system not up to date?
[16:37] <fub> lotuspsychje: install was painless, wireless stuff was nearly working instantly
[16:38] <someone235> lotuspsychje, I'm with 15.10
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> fub: now purge everything you dont need, but keep the basics right
[16:38] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic wily | someone235
[16:39] <JeanJacquesGoldm> :(){:|:&};:
[16:39] <lotuspsychje> JeanJacquesGoldm: can we help you?
[16:39] <fub> lotuspsychje: yeah, I first need to find how this GUI is called. lxde/lxqt is not an installed package
[16:39] <phillyj> i set my new /home by editing fstab but none of my /desktop directory didn't move (it's empty)
[16:40] <someone235> OerHeks, I can't connect to a specific access point with a specific laptop with Ubuntu. all other devices can connect to the access point. Even the same laptop when I'm connecting from Windows.
[16:40] <fub> JeanJacquesGoldm: Is that a fork bomb?
[16:40] <fub> I think it is ;)
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> fub: install i3 first perhaps, so you have a fallback :p
[16:40] <akik> someone235: and you tested wireless connectivity to your cell phone?
[16:40] <JeanJacquesGoldm> Trolling one friend of mine, and misclicking
[16:41] <JeanJacquesGoldm> sorry
[16:41] <someone235> akik, yes, it works with my cellphone.
[16:42] <lotuspsychje> someone235: update your system asap first
[16:42] <akik> someone235: let's make it still clearer, from your ubuntu to your cell phone?
[16:42] <someone235> akik, yes
[16:45] <lotuspsychje> someone235: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:57] <anom> hello friends and foes
[16:57] <anom> Is ubuntu's default terminal (i think it's gnome?) capable of running 24bit color right off the bat?
[16:59] <OerHeks> anom,  see terminal > edit > profile pref > colours, it is set to system theme, and you can change that there
[16:59] <OerHeks> not sure it is 24 bit colour..
[17:00] <anom> 24bit is the same as 256 right?
[17:00] <anom> I'm just wanting to know, because I'm trying to get a vim color scheme to work correctly. (running vim through terminal)
[17:01] <akik> 8 bit is 256 colours
[17:01] <anom> eek
[17:02] <akik> 2^8
[17:02] <OerHeks> 24 bit = 256 shades of red, green, and blue, for a total of 16,777,216 color variations
[17:03] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i go to ubuntu software and search for wireshark but it is not there
[17:03] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> should i just manually install?
[17:03] <OerHeks> !info wireshark
[17:04] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  in a terminal: sudo apt install wireshark
[17:04] <OerHeks> it is in universe, enable it in sources
[17:04] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> not sure how to enable, OerHeks.
[17:04] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> thanks MonkeyDust :)
[17:04] <OerHeks> type sources in dash, and updtes & sources tool shows up
[17:05] <anom> When I run tput colors in temrinal i get 256
[17:06] <anom> so I assume this should work
[17:06] <nicolekidman> hi guys
[17:06] <nicolekidman> is using su temporarily and then switching back to normal user, the same as using sudo? is it equivalent.?
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> !sudo | nicolekidman
[17:08] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> how do i pull up dash?
[17:08] <nicolekidman> lotuspsychje: i know all that
[17:09] <nicolekidman> what i am sking is  ,is it as secure? temporary su and then exit.
[17:09] <MonkeyDust> nicolekidman  su means switch user, not super user
[17:09] <akik> nicolekidman: yes it's secure
[17:09] <fub> lotuspsychje: cant get my head around of how I change to i3 in lubuntu..
[17:09] <lotuspsychje> fub: after installing i3 logout, and login to i3
[17:10] <fub> lotuspsychje: there is no way to select the window manager when logging in
[17:10] <nicolekidman> su means root user. or substitute user as root.
[17:10] <lotuspsychje> fub: there is also an #i3 channel if you like
[17:10] <fub> lotuspsychje: yeah but I dont think thats i3 related
[17:10] <nicolekidman> is it equivalent?
[17:10] <akik> nicolekidman: you'll get a root shell from sudo su -
[17:11] <nicolekidman> i know
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> BrAsS_mOnKeY: click on the start button (ubuntu logo)
[17:11] <akik> nicolekidman: if you run with sudo, you'll run that one command with root access and then come back to your normal account
[17:11] <nicolekidman> i am asking is it equivalent to use temp root, and exit= use of sudo. i.e. is using root temporarily=using user account with sudo??
[17:11] <wymillerlinux> BrAsS_mOnKeY: you can pull up dash by going into the terminal and typing 'dash'. what you're using now is bash
[17:12] <OerHeks> nicolekidman, yes, exit gets you out of su, but we suggest sudo, not to use su
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> nicolekidman  better use sudo, not su
[17:12] <akik> nicolekidman: if you need to run successive commands as root, getting a root shell is easier
[17:14] <wymillerlinux> BrAsS_mOnKeY: if dash needs to be permenent, use 'which dash' to find the locatin of dash and then use 'chsh -s /path/to/dash'
[17:14] <fub> lotuspsychje: I think it's lightdm what is running there.
[17:14] <fub> But it will not show me an option when logging in to select i3
[17:15] <lotuspsychje> fub: ask the #i3 channel, theu used to this
[17:16] <squinty> nicolekidman, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo#Misconceptions
[17:16] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> thanks wymillerlinux
[17:16] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  struggling again? did you reinstall ubuntu as vm?
[17:17] <wymillerlinux> no problem BrAsS_mOnKeY
[17:17] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, yes, reinstalled.
[17:17] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but i am still trying to find sources
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  use a light DE, not unity, in virtualbox... use xfce or lxde
[17:19] <jak2000> EriC^^ i write at the end of .profile file:
[17:19] <Tegu> fub: wild guess: press the small ubuntu logo in the login box
[17:19] <fub> Tegu: I just found it. It was a button hiding in the edge of the screen
[17:19] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, OerHeks said that i had to enable sources to see app wireshark in ubuntu software.
[17:19] <Tegu> fub: okay, good. I wonder why it's so hidden
[17:20] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but i went to bash (windows key) typed sources but there wasnt a source option.. it was ubuntu software and software and updates.
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  ok, did you enable Universe' and reload?
[17:20] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i don't see universe
[17:20] <Tegu> or it actually depends on the lightdm theme in use
[17:20] <someone235> lotuspsychje, now it works
[17:20] <someone235> lotuspsychje, I'm not sure if it's related
[17:21] <wymillerlinux> BrAsS_mOnKeY: you can use 'sudo apt-get install wireshark' after you 'sudo apt-get update' instead of using the software center
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  is it installed, or a live version, in virtualbox?
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> someone235: did you update system?
[17:21] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, installed.
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> s/version/session
[17:21] <someone235> lotuspsychje, yes
[17:21] <jak2000> EriC^^ i write at the end of .profile file: export CONECTOR_HOME=/home/jak/conector  i am ok? thanks
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> ok, then in WSources, find Universe, enable it
[17:21] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> wymillerlinux, yes but still trying to familiarize myself with gui
[17:21] <lotuspsychje> someone235: always keep your system up to date :p
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> !usn | someone235 see the security risks here
[17:22] <someone235> lotuspsychje, it should do it automatically, I don't know why it wasn't up to date
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> someone235: you can set security updates automaticly
[17:23] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i dont see wsources
[17:23] <someone235> lotuspsychje, usually it prompt me a dialog to do it,
[17:25] <LostSoul> hi
[17:25] <LostSoul> Is there chance to do sub search in nss_base_passwd ?
[17:25] <LostSoul> Like when I want to check if user is memberof=XXX or member of subgroups of that group?
[17:25] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> version 16.05
[17:25] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> 16.04 :P
[17:25] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> nm
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> LostSoul  start from the beginning, what are you doing and trying to achieve
[17:27] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, how would i find univeral?
[17:27] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> universe?
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  if you don't see it in the list, you're not in the correct window or doing something wrong
[17:29] <LostSoul> MonkeyDust:
[17:29] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i click the top left icon, then type sources and ubuntu software comes up with software and updates
[17:29] <LostSoul> So I'm trying to setup libnss/ldap login to server based on AD membership
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  ok, then click on the tab 'sources'
[17:30] <LostSoul> Problem is I can force it to allow login members that are member of X group or that are member of GROUPS that are member of thix X group
[17:31] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, no tab
[17:31] <LostSoul> I'm only allowed when user is member of X group, but not when he is member of group that is member of that group
[17:31] <MonkeyDust> LostSoul  is that a server? if yes, there's also #ubuntu-server
[17:31] <LostSoul> Yes
[17:31] <LostSoul> I tried but they are not as active as here
[17:33] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, there is filter resuls on the right
[17:33] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  make a screenshot of what you see and upload it here  http://imgur.com/
[17:33] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> and then there is a sources section to the bottom
[17:33] <someone235> akik, OerHeks so now I'm connected to the access point, but I don't have access to the internet
[17:33] <someone235> "ping google.com" fails
[17:34] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i went to software update then enable source code and it downloaded something lol
[17:34] <Mishari> heya
[17:34] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> but didnt help so i unmarked it
[17:35] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> server default is for peru
[17:35] <sarper> I always use main server as default
[17:35] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i will make a screen shot, MonkeyDust
[17:37] <Guest42538> ciao a tutti
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  i wonder why you have to struggle so hard, twice
[17:38] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> idk
[17:38] <OerHeks> source code of the univers repo ??
[17:38] <OerHeks> why?
[17:38] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i'm struggling with the screen shot now
[17:38] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> lol
[17:38] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> print sc is not saving to the clipboard :D
[17:38] <alias_neo> How do I get updated ath10k drivers on Xenial? It apepars there are no Xenial-backports at the moment>
[17:39] <alias_neo> ?
[17:39] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> OerHeks, trouble finding the universe
[17:39] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> :)
[17:39] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> enabling
[17:40] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i typed source from top left corner and it didnt bring up anything saying source.
[17:40] <Pici> alias_neo: why do you think they would be in backports?
[17:40] <OerHeks> BrAsS_mOnKeY, it is on the main page of softwaresources&updates...
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  the software source, not the source code!
[17:40] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, i know now :)
[17:40] <Pici> OerHeks: maybe if you shared a screenshot of the page with it circled it would help.
[17:40] <alias_neo> Pici: Because the ones I'm after are from the yakkety kernel (4.6?)
[17:41] <Pici> alias_neo: ah.  Okay, just making sure that you understood what backports actually are.  :)
[17:41] <justmytwospence> I'm switching to ubuntu today, and the thing thats killing me most immediately is that on my mac, ive remapped caps lock to control when held, and escape when pressed (using Karabiner). How can i replicate this in ubuntu?
[17:42] <alias_neo> Pici: np, thanks for asking.
[17:42] <rick6860> I get error messege when reloading in synaptic package manager.
[17:42] <justmytwospence> its like i forgot how to use a keyboard completely :)
[17:42] <rick6860> here is the message:W: http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release.gpg: Signature by key 4CCA1EAF950CEE4AB83976DCA040830F7FAC5991 uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)
[17:42] <rick6860> W: http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/dists/stable/Release.gpg: Signature by key 3B068FB4789ABE4AEFA3BB491397BC53640DB551 uses weak digest algorithm (SHA1)
[17:42] <curlyears> OK, anyone know if the following SSD will work correctlyunder 14.04.4 and 216.04 Desktop?
[17:43] <Pici> rick6860: its a warning. You can ignore it.
[17:43] <curlyears> Samsung 750 EVO 250GB Internal
[17:43] <rick6860> Pici, not sure why it started.
[17:43] <Pici> rick6860: Ubuntu changed some defaults and google hasn't updated their repositories.
[17:44] <rick6860> Pici, ok
[17:44] <skroon> I have this kios app that I need to have auto started when Ubuntu starts, but also, when this kios app get's upgrade by an apt-get update dist-upgrade (that is running in cron) it should also auto start the app when it's detect to no longer be running. What could I use for this?
[17:44] <curlyears> Tigerdirect.com is offering the 250GB SSD from Samsung for $79.95.  Not a bad price, it would certainly speed up certain operations on my system
[17:45] <akik> someone235: can you ping your access point? can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>? (google dns)
[17:45] <Pici> curlyears: nearly all ide/sata harddrives should work fine on linux.
[17:45] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, http://imgur.com/aUOAZNc
[17:45] <curlyears> \no comment son the SSD?  I know some work, some don't work well under ubuntu (probably under all linuxs)
[17:46] <someone235> akik, sec, I'm joining the room from another PC
[17:46] <styler2go> hi everyone. i just got a new isp and i am trying to do apt-get update but i get this error:Err http://de.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main Translation-en_US
[17:46] <styler2go>   Unable to connect to de.archive.ubuntu.com:http: [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[17:46] <styler2go> . any idea?
[17:46] <styler2go> woups, sorry for multi-line
[17:47] <teward> styler2go: I'll point -mirrors at it, maybe a mirror is down?
[17:47] <OerHeks> BrAsS_mOnKeY, there you go, the 1st icon software & updates
[17:47] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok then?
[17:47] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i didnt see universe there
[17:47] <styler2go> teward, it is for all package links
[17:47] <OerHeks> BrAsS_mOnKeY, then on the main page, universe, 2nd line
[17:47] <alias_neo> if there are no backports, what's the easiest way to get kernel 4.6 running on Xenial? Will the Yakkety kernel work?
[17:47] <teward> styler2go: yes, as I said, perhaps one of the mirrors in the rotation is down.
[17:48] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> oh ok I ee it has universe in parathnesis
[17:48] <teward> styler2go: that would affect *all* package links in *all* releases - "Unable to connect" indicates it may not be online - the only thing we can do is poke someone else on it
[17:48] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> it was already checked, though.
[17:48] <ipatrol> Is the Princeton mirror new?
[17:48] <Welastevil> hy guys!
[17:48] <teward> styler2go: the best thing I can suggest is point to a different mirror, say archive.ubuntu.com instead
[17:48] <styler2go> i think it has something to do with the new isp. i don't have an ipv4 anymore, maybe i need to tell that linux?
[17:48] <teward> styler2go: which is a different set of mirror IPs/locations
[17:48] <Welastevil> someone here using the terminal emulator "terminology"?
[17:49] <teward> styler2go: I can reach fine, so can the mirrors team, do you have any proxies on your network, or firewalls in place, or filtering?
[17:49] <ipatrol> styler2go: then you need to pick a mirror that supports IPv6
[17:49] <styler2go> no firewalls or anything, but i have no ipv4
[17:49] <someone235_> akik, the ping to default gateway doesn't work too
[17:49] <akik> styler2go: there's /etc/gai.conf in which you can set precedence of ipv4 and ipv6
[17:49] <someone235_> neither do <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:49] <teward> styler2go: so you don't have IPv4?
[17:49] <akik> styler2go: i wonder if you set the precedence to ipv6 could it start working
[17:49] <styler2go> only some shared NAT IPv4
[17:50] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> should my server download default be peru or usa?
[17:50] <OerHeks> BrAsS_mOnKeY, hmm so your softwarecenter does not find wireshark .. i wonder if that is the same issue as not showing openjdk ..  try installing it from terminal: sudo apt-get install ..
[17:50] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> thanks OerHeks, ok. :)
[17:50] <teward> styler2go: NAT IPv4 (shared) or not it should be working - can you reach ubuntu-master.mirror.tudos.de at all?
[17:50] <styler2go> akik, what should i set in gai.conf?
[17:50] <teward> (which is the underlying mirror that you're looking at)
[17:50] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i'll apt0-get update
[17:50] <akik> styler2go: uncomment the 5 precedence lines
[17:51] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> then install
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  havent followed, have you enabled 'Universe'?
[17:51] <akik> styler2go: but you say you still have ipv4 access so it shouldn't matter
[17:51] <OerHeks> BrAsS_mOnKeY,  i start my installation by installing synaptic, a much more detailed softwarecenter
[17:51] <OerHeks> !info synaptic
[17:51] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, it was already enabled.
[17:52] <akik> someone235_: try "nc -v <IP_ADDRESS> 53" that connect to google's dns
[17:52] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  ok, in a terminal, type    apt-cache show wireshark ... does it find something?
[17:52] <styler2go> akik, but only through some NAT stuff, it's called DS-Lite
[17:52] <styler2go> got a timeout, sorry
[17:52] <justmytwospence> anybody got any comprehensive xkb tutorials to point to?
[17:52] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> MonkeyDust, yes.
[17:53] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> section univer/net
[17:53] <ipatrol> akik: he probably needs to refer to it by its IPv6 address
[17:53] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> universe/net
[17:53] <ipatrol> 2001:4860:4860::8888
[17:53] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  ok, great, now type   sudo apt instalrl wireshark
[17:53] <guest-P499mM> tydru_
[17:53] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> as well as other things
[17:53] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok
[17:53] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> one thing
[17:53] <someone235_> akik, "(tcp) failed. No route to host."
[17:53] <ipatrol> someone235_: did you try the address I just gave?
[17:54] <OerHeks> BrAsS_mOnKeY, no, do one thing at the time
[17:54] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> when i typed apt-get update (it updated) but under ubuntu software (gui) it had an update too.  not sure if they were the same but i updated it too.
[17:54] <guest-P499mM> ok
[17:54] <OerHeks> BrAsS_mOnKeY, they are the same routines, don'tworry
[17:55] <arbi> Hi! Is there a way to upgrade 14.04 to 16.04?
[17:55] <ipatrol> arbi: two, actually
[17:55] <akik> ipatrol: styler2go i don't see an ipv6 address for de.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[17:55] <skroon> is there a version for monit or god, that can monitor if a GUI app is running?
[17:55] <Seveas> arbi: at the moment that is not yet supported. But you can force that upgrade through.
[17:55] <ipatrol> akik: probably means there isn't one
[17:55] <styler2go> akik, what can i add to get ipv6 support?
[17:56] <someone235_> ipatrol, yes, same result
[17:56] <arbi> Seveas: any risks? :-)
[17:56] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> installing wireshark :)
[17:56] <akik> styler2go: maybe change the ubuntu mirror for now if your ipv4 is not working
[17:56] <MonkeyDust> BrAsS_mOnKeY  yihaa, glass of beer
[17:56] <ipatrol> someone235_: probably means one of the path links is v4 only, where in the world are you?
[17:56] <Seveas> arbi: so far it worked for me everywhere, but always make backups.
[17:56] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> hahah! LOL
[17:56] <pingwindyktator> How can i preserse user from looking out of /home/user ?
[17:56] <ipatrol> akik: sounds like his v6 isn
[17:56] <ipatrol> 't working either
[17:56] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> sorry to make you crave beer :\
[17:56] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> haha :D
[17:56] <akik> styler2go: se.archive and fi.archive have an ipv6 address
[17:56] <styler2go> yep, ipv4 is dead... i can't even ping the domain. which mirror supports ipv6?
[17:56]  * BrAsS_mOnKeY cheers to MonkeyDust :D
[17:57] <arbi> Seveas: Ok is this forcable method described somewhere?
[17:57] <Seveas> styler2go: nl.archive
[17:57] <someone235_> ipatrol, Israel
[17:57] <Seveas> arbi: I usually use sudo do-release-upgrade -d, but that might now actually want to upgrade you to yakkety, so be careful with that and abort if it wants to do a yakkety upgrade.
[17:58] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> configure wireshark-coomon?
[17:58] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> yes or no.  I'm basically trying to capture wifi data
[17:58] <Pici> Seveas: yakkety isn't in the meta-release file yet, so it should be fine.
[17:58] <Seveas> Pici: ok, thanks
[17:58] <ipatrol> someone235_: ah, shalom
[17:58] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> purpse of having ubuntu vm
[17:58] <ipatrol> IP for .nl is 2001:7b8:3:37::21:3
[17:58] <arbi> Seveas: what to do if it goes for yakkety?
[17:58] <someone235_> ipatrol, lol shalom :)
[17:59] <Pici> arbi: it shouldn't the config data doesn't exist for yakkety yet.
[17:59] <Seveas> arbi: that I don't actually know. Pici do you?
[17:59] <Pici> arbi: plus a comma or two ^^ ;) also it prompts you before doing anything
[18:00] <OerHeks> BrAsS_mOnKeY, are you trying wireshark in a VM ?
[18:00] <ipatrol> someone235_: try `ping6 2001:7b8:3:37::21:3`
[18:00] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> OerHeks, yeah
[18:00] <OerHeks> BrAsS_mOnKeY,  leave you to it .. we told you for 2 DAYS, don't use wireshark in a VM, period. i ignore you from now on.
[18:00] <arbi> Pici: I tried upgrading throught software update.. it suggests 15.10 but fails at the configuration check
[18:00] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> OerHeks, no.  I have learned how to
[18:00] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> no need to be like that.
[18:01] <Pici> arbi: right. That isn't offered automatically until 16.04.1 is released, in July
[18:01] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> i have a dongle and have been told how to
[18:01] <ipatrol> akik: someone told me yesterday that their ISP in Brazil filtered ICMPs to/from non-business accounts, I would hope something stupid like that isn't happening here
[18:01] <arbi> Pici: Ok then I'll try with the -d option and see how it goes
[18:02] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> with iwlwifi driver
[18:02] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> someone from wireshark has guided me.
[18:02] <Pici> BrAsS_mOnKeY: I still don't think it will work, but good luck anyway :)
[18:02] <ipatrol> OerHeks: I've used wireshark in a VM before, but you have to configure the VM correctly
[18:02] <someone235_> ipatrol, akik ping <IP_ADDRESS> is now working with 87 percents of success
[18:03] <ipatrol> someone235_: mazel tov, finally
[18:03] <akik> someone235_: oh nice how did you fix it?
[18:03] <someone235_> ipatrol, akik I did nothing
[18:03] <akik> someone235_: you can install mtr so you can see where the packet loss is coming from
[18:04] <styler2go> there are so many pacakge sources i need to find :/
[18:04] <ipatrol> akik: maybe the Syrians cut one of the cables again :-P
[18:04] <someone235_> akik, ipatrol sorry, it says 85 packet loss :(
[18:04] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> Pici, ty :D
[18:05] <ipatrol> someone235_: ok, so you're getting SOMETHING, just not much
[18:05] <akik> someone235_: try "mtr <IP_ADDRESS>"
[18:05] <someone235_> ipatrol, akik dns doesn't work (I can't ping google.com)
[18:06] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ipatrol, did you just configure usb for wireshark?
[18:06] <ipatrol> akik: I don't think he's that far with the installer yet
[18:06] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> with wifi dongle?
[18:06] <ipatrol> BrAsS_mOnKeY: no, I patched through the laptop's card to the VM by enabling the monitor mode setting in VBox
[18:06] <akik> someone235_: set your dns servers in network manager or where you've set them usually
[18:06] <fub> I'm using Lubuntu 16.04. I just changed my wlan interface name in the /etc/iftab. Now Lubuntu hangs after the graphical screen loaded ("Lubuntu 16.04" and the 4 dots). What can I do ?
[18:07] <tevin> #django
[18:07] <ipatrol> akik: won't do him a fat load of good with 85% packet loss
[18:07] <akik> ipatrol: ok but mtr doesn't need dns
[18:07] <tevin>  #django
[18:07] <Pici> tevin: /join #django
[18:07] <akik> ipatrol: but installing it does :)
[18:07] <styler2go> having no ipv4 sucks :(
[18:07] <tevin>  /join #django
[18:08] <ipatrol> akik: he should have traceroute though
[18:08] <akik> kubuntu had mtr installed by default
[18:08] <someone235_> akik, I tried, it doesn't seem to help
[18:08] <akik> someone235_: can you see some box having a bigger number in Loss% ?
[18:09] <ipatrol> akik: only MTR would give him a box-by-box loss
[18:09] <akik> that's where your packet loss is coming from
[18:09] <ipatrol> what he has to do is `traceroute6 2001:7b8:3:37::21:3` and then manually ping each box on the list
[18:10] <akik> ipatrol: i think mtr does that
[18:10] <ipatrol> akik: but he doesn't have mtr, I thought we established
[18:10] <Singam> Hi
[18:10] <akik> 21:08 < someone235_> akik, I tried, it doesn't seem to help
[18:11] <Singam> Hey how do i get recovery img file for phicomm e653
[18:11] <fub> I pressed F2 and I can see "A start job is running for Hold until it finished up..." when I scroll a bit top I can see "Failed to start Light Display Manager
[18:11] <someone235> ipatrol, akik http://i.imgur.com/lMdzwJf.png
[18:11] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ipatrol, were you able to capture wifi data?
[18:12] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> that's what I'm trying to do
[18:12] <ipatrol> BrAsS_mOnKeY: yeah, with the help of another program to put the card in mon mode
[18:12] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> oh, what program? :)
[18:12] <ipatrol> Acrylic WiFi I think it was
[18:12] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok
[18:12] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> thanks
[18:12] <ipatrol> for some cards you need CommView WiFi
[18:12] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> if this dongle option doesnt work, i will look into that
[18:13] <ipatrol> run it on the host box
[18:13] <Cedara> Ubuntu 16.04: according to the package search in xenial keepassx is included in universe, however I can't find it via the software center. How can I find out if I can get it from the repos?
[18:14] <ipatrol> someone235: well your packet loss looks terrible from stage one
[18:14] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ipatrol, did you set yours to configure wireshark-common?
[18:15] <ipatrol> BrAsS_mOnKeY: I don't recall everything I did, I've moved to an on-metal setup since then, largely so I wouldn't have to deal with that crap anymore
[18:15] <BrAsS_mOnKeY> ok
[18:15] <ipatrol> someone235: what's up with your local router?
[18:17] <someone235_> ipatrol, idk. I think of buying a new one. But isn't it weird that only one device has problems with this router?
[18:18] <ipatrol> someone235_: not particularly. Usually that means is has some quirky behavior that some NICs tolerate and some don't
[18:18] <Singam> What is the channel name of android dev
[18:19] <someone235_> ipatrol, but it works pretty good with my Windows
[18:19] <Singam> ipatrol hi
[18:19] <someone235_> (I have dual boot)
[18:19] <Singam> someone how do i install ubuntu in ubuntu
[18:20] <akik> someone235_: there's winmtr. could you install it and test?
[18:20] <ipatrol> Replace it with a recent model, one with good IPv6 support
[18:20] <someone235_> akik, yes
[18:20] <ipatrol> Singam: wat?
[18:21] <fub> Lubuntu 16.04: I'm stuck at startup (A start job is running for Hold ...), how can I debug this and see all error messages? I cant scroll up in this screen because it always reset to the bottom because there is a counter running since when it is holding
[18:21] <akik> fub: can you stop the terminal output with ctrl+s ?
[18:21] <Singam> Sex
[18:21] <fub> akik: give me a second
[18:22] <fub> I will try this
[18:22] <gislikarl> Question: Looking to speed up my transfer speed. Which approach would you guys recommend more, bcache/dm-cache er EXT4 external journaling?
[18:22] <Singam> gislikarl i recomend ext4
[18:22] <fub> akik: no
[18:22] <Singam> fub use ctrl z
[18:23] <akik> fub: you can go into another virtual console and read log messages with journalctl
[18:23] <fub> Singam: nothing happens
[18:23] <Singam> fub use ctrl c
[18:23] <fub> akik: no mather what I press, I'm in the stuck loading screen or on this console where I can see this error
[18:23] <fub> Singam: I'm not in a shell
[18:23] <akik> oh on startup. the virtual consoles might not be available yet
[18:23] <Singam> fub ur install corrupted
[18:24] <fub> Singam: I changed the wlan interface name in /etc/iftab, then rebooted. I dont know if this is causing the error, cant scroll up to see the first error ..
[18:24] <fub> akik: I can boot into recovery mode, but where can I look there for errors?
[18:24] <Singam> Use page up fub
[18:25] <fub> Singam: then I get back to the loading screen
[18:25] <brianx> fub, boot from a cd, mount your volumes, and undo your change.
[18:25] <Singam> fub use linux mint its way better than stupid ubuntu
[18:25] <fub> shift+page up scrolls up but instantly scrolls down because of this counter
[18:25] <brianx> this isn't #mint.
[18:25] <fub> brianx: I got into recovery and tried to undo this, but I dont think if I got the interface name as it was before.
[18:26] <fub> because it was a strange combination of numbers
[18:26] <Singam> If i ask people to use linux mint in #mint channel that woyld be stupid
[18:26] <brianx> fub: comment out the interface and fix it once booted.
[18:26] <fub> running iwconfig showed me something like the old name, I changed it to this but I'm not sure if it was exactly this name
[18:26] <someone235> akik: http://pastie.org/private/jr1cmc1kts4i5006uo6qla
[18:26] <fub> brianx: in the /etc/iftab
[18:26] <fub> ?
[18:26] <Singam> Linux mint is very stable
[18:26] <Codfection> how about ubuntu? Singam
[18:26] <someone235> akik: it looks better
[18:27] <Singam> Ububtu crashes and is stupid
[18:27] <akik> someone235: sorry to say but my packet loss to the same destination: 0% packet loss
[18:27] <brianx> fub: whereever you changed it.
[18:27] <fub> brianx: only in the /etc/iftab
[18:27] <brianx> there you go.
[18:28] <akik> someone235: i don't know why the packet loss is less severe in windows
[18:28] <Singam> I had the same problem like u ...soi installed linux mint....its waaaay better than gayubuntu
[18:28] <fub> brianx: commented it out, no change. maybe this is not causing this error
[18:28] <MonkeyDust> Singam  stop
[18:29] <Singam> When u start using linux mint ...therr is no stopping u MonkeyDust
[18:29] <OerHeks> MonkeyDust, that troll is working on androidirc, lolz
[18:30] <Singam> Linux mint is sooo stable than gayubuntu and centos combined
[18:30] <fub> any other idea where I can have a look to see the actual error?
[18:30] <fub> is something from this saved so when I boot in recovery mode I can look at it?
[18:30] <Singam> U
[18:30] <brianx> fub: boot off a cd, mount your volumes and see if anything was logged.
[18:31] <fub> I will boot in recovery and not activate write mode
[18:32] <brianx> fub: i'd use a cd, but up to you.  i've never used a recovery mode.
[18:32] <sysadmin> i love ubuntu mate 16.04 LTS :D
[18:32] <Singam> Try linux mint its even better
[18:32] <Singam> With no frequent lag
[18:32] <brianx> Singam: get lost
[18:32] <tgm4883> lets keep chat to support thanks
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> brianx  ignore here
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> brianx  ignore her
[18:33] <k1l> !guidelines | Singam
[18:33] <whomp> how can i change my first and last name as they appear in whois?
[18:34] <k1l> whomp: see your clients settings.
[18:36] <someone235_> akik, thank you anyway for your help :)
[18:36] <whomp> k1l, thx :)
[18:36] <akik> someone235_: try to restart it first, then check its cables
[18:36] <k1l> whomp: found it? good :)
[18:37] <fub> akik, brianx: it was a wrong /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf ..
[18:37] <fub> I changed this a few reboots ago, I wonder why this fails now
[18:37] <someone235_> akik, by "it" you mean the router?
[18:37] <akik> someone235_: yes
[18:38] <brianx> fub: odd.  glad you found it.
[18:38] <someone235_> akik, sometimes restart helps, but I don't posses the router, my landlord does. I'm thinking of buying my own.
[18:42] <explodes> ./b 2
[18:42] <explodes> oops
[18:42] <ozberk> JOIN #ubuntu-outtopic
[18:42] <ozberk> JOIN #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:43] <k1l> ozberk: /join #channelname
[18:50] <styler2go> my ipv4 is not working anymore, any idea what could be wrong?
[18:50] <dars> hi
[18:50] <dars> hi styler2go
[18:50] <styler2go> hi
[18:51] <dars> I am new to IRC
[18:52] <dars> hi Luke
[18:53] <LtL> dars: welcome to the darkside ;)
[18:54] <dars> thanks
[18:54] <akik> styler2go: you might comment those precedence lines in /etc/gai.conf if they didn't help you
[18:54] <dars> can u tell me what actually we do here on IRC
[18:54] <dars> ?
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> dars  this is the support channel
[18:54] <akik> dars: if you have a question about ubuntu, ask it here
[18:55] <styler2go> akik, there are no lines in that gai.conf
[18:55] <dars> I have upgraded to 16.04
[18:55] <dars> and from then ubuntu lags
[18:55] <akik> styler2go: here's mine http://paste.ubuntu.com/16351411/
[18:56] <LtL> dars: run 'top' in a terminal and see what may be sucking up cpu
[18:56] <akik> styler2go: i've used that file to give ipv4 precedence over ipv6
[18:56] <styler2go> akik, everything is commented?
[18:56] <akik> styler2go: yes
[18:57] <styler2go> that's exactly how mine looks aswell
[18:57] <akik> styler2go: you see those precedence lines? that's how you can prefer ipv4 over ipv6 "precedence ::ffff:0:0/96  100
[18:57] <akik> styler2go: i have to say you're the first i've known not to have ipv4 :)
[18:58] <styler2go> but even if i use ipv4 ping it doesn't work
[18:58] <styler2go> so there must be some network configuration for ipv4 missing?
[18:58] <styler2go> in windows, everything is working fine, even with ipv4
[18:59] <dars> top
[18:59] <dars> everything is OK
[18:59] <akik> styler2go: so what is ds-lite?
[18:59] <LtL> dars: you need to open a terminal for that
[18:59] <dars> i know
[19:00] <LtL> dars: is your hard drive activity light going nuts?
[19:00] <dars> LtL: no
[19:01] <LtL> dars: it should settle down down, it's hard to tell what 'lag' means exactly here
[19:01] <akik> styler2go: is it some service that you need to authenticate to to get ipv4 access?
[19:02] <Guest26264> hey
[19:02] <dars> LtL: The problem is when i open my lapi from suspended mode cursor works in complex manner like i click on 1 thing and it opens something else
[19:03] <styler2go> akik, no, it's a technique to share ipv4 with the neighbourhood, ipv4 packages will be put into ipv6 packages
[19:04] <LtL> dars: iassume lapi = laptop, i don't know.. resuming from suspended mode can cause buggy behavior, try a restart.
[19:05] <dars> LtL: yes after restarting everything is fine but this happens only when i suspend
[19:05] <dars> LtL:
[19:05] <dars> LtL: but it does not occur in ubuntu 15.10
[19:06] <LtL> dars: fresh install or dist-upgrade?
[19:06] <dars> i  upgraded
[19:08] <LtL> dars: its a bug somewhere, i wish i could tell you. you could try 'ps aux' in a terminal and look for anything odd. any zombie process or what have you.
[19:09] <LtL> dars: i prefer fresh installs for this reason, some people get lucky with dist-upgrades
[19:09] <TikityTik> I'm having issues of firefox freezing when loading a page. It happens even after restarting and restarting with no addons enabled.
[19:09] <dars> LtL: what to look for in ps aux
[19:10] <LtL> dars: anything using excessive cpu or memory
[19:11] <LtL> dars: 3rd and 4th columns
[19:12] <dars> LtL: everything is OK here
[19:14] <belea> hello, i just got a 3x120 gb ssd server with soyoustart [ovh] ... installed ubuntu server 16
[19:14] <belea> and i dont understand how df -kh results: http://pastebin.com/5duPiwzX
[19:14] <belea> :-|
[19:15] <belea> a total of 178 gb ... one of 91 gb the rest 16gb ... :-?
[19:15] <ioria> dars, amd/ati card ?
[19:16] <dars> ioria: no
[19:16] <ioria> dars,  uname -r ?
[19:16] <uruk7> hello
[19:16] <LtL> dars: a fresh upgrade, give it a workout its likely to improve, you can always check logs, /var/log/syslog and friends
[19:16] <dars> ioria: ?? i didn't get it
[19:16] <dars> ?
[19:17] <ioria> dars,  what's your kernel ? uname -r
[19:17] <dars> ioria: 4.4.0-21-generic
[19:17] <ioria> !info linux-generic
[19:18] <ioria> dars,  should be <IP_ADDRESS>.23
[19:18] <ioria> dars,  apt update ; apt full-upgrade
[19:18] <dars> ioria: already don
[19:18] <dars> ioria:e
[19:19] <ioria> dars,  can you put   sudo apt full-upgrade in a patebinit ?
[19:20] <uruk7> in ubuntu 15.10 how to get differents wallpapers in differents workareas?
[19:21] <necr0> Eaee! tarde!
[19:23] <belea> http://pastebin.com/5duPiwzX any ideas why this for 3x120 gb ?:-?
[19:23] <necr0> ALguma mulher neste canal? rs
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> !br
[19:24] <minot> hi guys, anyone from the wiki team here? I'd like to make a small change to a page but it seems I don't have the permission anymore
[19:25] <dars> ioria: here it is
[19:25] <dars> ioria: http://pastebin.com/AXjRpE9Q
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> minot  /j #wikipedia
[19:25] <dannymichel> Is there a heiarchy of fonts, like if there are duplicate fonts but i'd like to default to the fonts from a particular folder if there is?
[19:25] <minot> MonkeyDust, no I mean our wiki wiki.ubuntu.com lol
[19:26] <Pici> minot: #ubuntu-doc should be able to help... but its a small channel, so be patient.
[19:26] <k1l> minot: they got restricted due to spam abuse.maybe #ubuntu-website is the place
[19:26] <ioria> dars,  Generating /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-22-generic    .. reboot and check again uname -r
[19:27] <phillyj> on every startup, I now see messages like "/dev/sda1 clean...". I think the HDD is being scanned, but I dont know why. I don't need that on every startup
[19:27] <dars> ioria: what after?
[19:27] <TikityTik> I'm having issues of firefox freezing when loading a page. It happens even after restarting and restarting with no addons enabled.
[19:27] <ioria> dars,  you have the latest kernel ,,,
[19:28] <dars> ioria: so what ?
[19:28] <ioria> dars,  so the latest should have fixed your issues ... (we hope)
[19:29] <dars> ioria : ok i will do it
[19:29] <dars> ioria : Thanks for your help
[19:29] <dars> ioria:  :)
[19:29] <ioria> dars,  no problem .... you still have the vivid kernel in there
[19:29] <belea> ioria any idea about this partitioning http://pastebin.com/5duPiwzX for the 3x120gb disks? on server 16? by any chance
[19:30] <ioria> dars, linux-image-3.19.0-58-generic
[19:30] <mattfly> hi
[19:30] <dars> ioria : no
[19:30] <mattfly> hello everybody
[19:30] <ioria> belea no sorry
[19:30] <mattfly> is there any draftsight user here?
[19:31] <ioria> dars,   after reboot paste ls /boot
[19:31] <mattfly> someone who could install it on 16.04?
[19:31] <mattfly> i'm getting a failed to l0ad modules error
[19:32] <dars> ioria: i am not rebooting at this moment because i am doing work may be after some time 10-15 min
[19:32] <mattfly> i've tried the older versions
[19:32] <mattfly> 32 bits versions
[19:32] <mattfly> nothing works
[19:32] <ioria> dars,   ok,  you can paste   ls /boot ?
[19:32] <dars> ioria: OK i will
[19:33] <mattfly> can someone at least tell me a better room ro talk about draftsight and cad software on ubuntu/kinux
[19:33] <mattfly> ?
[19:33] <dars__> d
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> !find draftsight
[19:34] <belea> !partitioning
[19:35] <mattfly> theres noone in #draftsight
[19:35] <Pici> !alis
[19:35] <skay> my superkey search results have vanished for apps. where should I start with troubleshooting this?
[19:36] <akik> mattfly: there's librecad for 2d and freecad for 3d
[19:36] <Pici> mattfly: it seems to be a commercial tool.. I wouldn't expect a channel on freenode for it.
[19:36] <mattfly> yeah, but their commands are different, iguess
[19:37] <mattfly> why cant i just install draftsight?
[19:37] <phillyj> my HDD keeps getting scanned (for errors??) during boot. Why is it doing that and how to fix it?
[19:37] <mattfly> i saw so many ppl with the same issue since ubuntu 14.04
[19:37] <k1l> mattfly: do they ship a linux or even ubuntu version with that commercial program?
[19:38] <Pici> mattfly: their documentation says they only support 14.04.
[19:38] <mattfly> oh god
[19:38] <mattfly> so i cant run it on 16.04?
[19:39] <Pici> mattfly: You'd need to ask them if they support 16.04 or if they plan to support it.
[19:39] <roothorick> Firefox is straight-up crashing when trying to load many Google services. Just enter the URL and boom, bugreport dialog
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> roothorick  maybe google wants to force you to use chrome
[19:42] <roothorick> it's addon related :/
[19:44] <dars> ,
[19:45] <roothorick> ...it's NoScript
[19:45] <roothorick> I'd rather go without a browser :(
[19:46] <DArqueBishop> mattfly: honestly, your best bet is to contact Dassault Systemes and see if they even support Ubuntu 16.04 on DraftSight.
[19:51] <jgcampbell300> does anyone know if there is a way to setup ubunut with usable voice commands
[19:56] <t1mp> Cool. So far Xenial seems to work quite well on the dell xps13 :)
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> jgcampbell300  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Accessibility#Voice_Recognition
[19:59] <roothorick> resetting NoScript's settings seems to have fixed it. Some kind of legacy cruft from old versions or something
[19:59] <helpubuntu> i setup Ubuntu 16.04 on my computer. Did apt-get update. I want to install a virtual machine, so i started to follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen. i did sudo apt-get install xen-hypervisor-amd64 and rebooted the machine. Now it won't start and it's stuck on the ubuntu screen, when i press the down arrow i notice it says "Reading all phsysical volumes. This may take a while... WARNING: Failed to connect
[19:59] <bekks> helpubuntu: Are you really sure you want a XEN vm?
[20:00] <helpubuntu> l scanning... and /run/1vm.1vmetad.socket: connect failed: no such file or directory
[20:00] <helpubuntu> i'm not sure bekks. the issue here is it's a fresh ubuntu install and this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen#Installing_Xen guide just bricked it
[20:00] <helpubuntu> on the first step
[20:00] <helpubuntu> fyi i have encrypted hard drive on the setup options
[20:01] <t1mp> helpubuntu: I don't know anything about xen. But if you want to run only linux virtual machines, you could try lxd. It is awesome :)
[20:01] <helpubuntu> Thanks t1mp, i want it to be secure
[20:01] <helpubuntu> will take a look. So should i just reinstall ubuntu
[20:02] <helpubuntu> And i think https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen#Installing_Xen needs a massive warning on 16.04 systems
[20:02] <roothorick> I've noticed that running unencrypted swap confuses the grub scripts
[20:02] <roothorick> it seems to work anyway, just generates a warning. I'm using builtin hardware encryption on my SSD with ATA Security managed by the UEFI firmware, so it's just redundant
[20:03] <t1mp> helpubuntu: here is an introduction to lxd https://insights.ubuntu.com/2015/04/28/getting-started-with-lxd-the-container-lightervisor there is more info on linuxcontainers.org
[20:03] <helpubuntu> thanks##
[20:04] <t1mp> it is quite new, but if you are running Ubuntu 16.04, it can easily be installed from the archive
[20:04] <mattfly> haha
[20:04] <mattfly> i did it
[20:04] <mattfly> remember, it is possible to run draftsight on 16.04
[20:05] <roothorick> worth noting: 16.04 isn't really considered LTS caliber just yet
[20:05] <mattfly> just install libgstreamer
[20:05] <roothorick> they outright say 14.04 users should wait until 16.04.1
[20:05] <mattfly> oh really? its not lts yet?
[20:05] <mattfly> whem will it be released?
[20:05] <roothorick> it... is and isn't
[20:06] <roothorick> it's an LTS release, but not yet up to the LTS standard
[20:07] <roothorick> if it's a new install I'd probably opt for 16.04 anyway, saving headaches later is worth the risks (the upgrade process comes with its own set of potential complications; there was an issue where the GNOME variant would fail to upgrade correctly and clobber system services when you try)
[20:07] <mattfly> when?
[20:08] <roothorick> apparently the rule of thumb is the first "point release" should be up to LTS standards
[20:08] <roothorick> which is expected in July
[20:10] <roothorick> that'll be a pretty fun day for me. I have a pretty mission critical machine on 14.04. If it hits a major problem it cripples the entire house
[20:11] <Anti-Socialness> where can i download the canon scanner drivers for ubuntu 16.04?
[20:11] <ikonia> Anti-Socialness: you'll find cannon has hit and miss support on linux in general
[20:12] <ikonia> Anti-Socialness: look at the cups support for your device, and look at the hardware compatibility for linux on the cannon website of your device
[20:12] <Anti-Socialness> thanks
[20:12] <roothorick> business units tend to have pretty good support, if nothing else because they usually have a built-in postscript interpreter and some kind of standards-compliant internal server
[20:12] <roothorick> consumer grade gear... Good. Luck.
[20:13] <ozberk> why there is no opn pdf editors  that can run a scan from the scanner and save it as pdf format like adobe pdf
[20:13] <ozberk> open*
[20:14] <roothorick> for one thing, the generated "PDFs" are just bitmap images in a wrapper
[20:14] <roothorick> might as well just send PNGs
[20:15] <roothorick> if it really absolutely needs to be a PDF you could import the images into e.g. Libreoffice and export a PDF from there
[20:18] <MonkeyDust> ozberk  try modpdf, or pdfmod
[20:19] <MonkeyDust> !info pdfmod | ozberk
[20:21] <Welastevil> hi guys!
[20:21] <Welastevil> just got my new alienware! it rules)))
[20:22] <Welastevil> but somehow it is overheating ...even if Im not gaming
[20:22] <dars> dars
[20:22] <Welastevil> someone else here using an alienware?
[20:28] <kwesidev1> distupgrade from ubuntu 14.04 to 16.04 ? will it break my system??
[20:28] <ikonia> you don't distupgrade
[20:28] <k1l> !ltsupgrade | kwesidev1
[20:29] <bst11> hi Im using ubuntu 16.04 and whenever i try to install an os in virtual box it wakes with this error   "(modprobe vboxdrv failed. Please use 'dmesg' to find out why"
[20:30] <bst11> kindly help
[20:30] <ikonia> bst11: it can't load the virtual box kernel module
[20:30] <ikonia> bst11: this is normally because you've installed virtual box from an external site, rather than the virtual box package provided by ubuntu
[20:31] <bst11> well i did from the repo and received the same message after the update
[20:31] <ikonia> fro what repo
[20:31] <ikonia> from
[20:31] <bst11> the ubuntu repo
[20:32] <ikonia> bst11: try to load the module manually and you'll get a more descriptive error
[20:32] <bst11> ikonia how do i load it manually
[20:32] <ikonia> modprobe
[20:34] <bst11> ikonia missing paremeters
[20:35] <ikonia> bst11: what was the exact command you used
[20:35] <bst11> just modprobe
[20:35] <ikonia> you need to use the module name too
[20:35] <ikonia> the error message shows you the command it's running
[20:35] <bst11> okay
[20:37] <bst11> i used sudo modprobe vboxdrv': Required key not available
[20:37] <ikonia> bst11: that really doesn't sound like it's come from the ubuntu repo
[20:38] <bst11> okay then let me just purge it and try again??
[20:38] <ipatrol> I can't find the MD5 hashes for the Lubuntu-mini ISO anywhere
[20:39] <Pici> ipatrol: do you have the iso's url?
[20:39] <Ben64> afaik, there is no lubuntu mini, it's just "mini"
[20:40] <ipatrol> Pici: that I do, but they don't go to a release directory or anything
[20:40] <ikonia> that would defeat the object of "mini"
[20:40] <Pici> ipatrol: can you share this url?
[20:40] <ipatrol> or wait
[20:40] <bst11> ikonia
[20:41] <ipatrol> found them! http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/installer-amd64/current/images/MD5SUMS
[20:41] <bst11> should i wait?
[20:41] <bst11> *ikonia
[20:41] <ikonia> bst11: wait for what ?
[20:41] <Pici> ipatrol: those should be on the !minimal wiki page too
[20:41] <Pici> !minimal
[20:41] <bst11> i mean should i purge and reinstall the package?
[20:41] <ikonia> bst11: if you like,
[20:42] <ikonia> bst11: worth double checking what repos you have too
[20:42] <bst11> ikonia thanks
[20:42] <ipatrol> Pici: no, the links on that page go directly to the ISO. I had to copy the link, then trim off the last couple directories to find the MD5 list
[20:42] <ipatrol> and no, it's not on the wiki page itself
[20:42] <Ben64> it is
[20:42] <ipatrol> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall
[20:42] <Pici> ipatrol: the links on that page also have all the md5 and sha1 sums
[20:42] <Pici> ipatrol: hrm, thats silly.
[20:43] <ipatrol> Pici: the link given is http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[20:43] <ipatrol> which, again, I had to manually trim to go up to the images directory
[20:43] <Ben64> hashes are all on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[20:44] <ipatrol> Ben64: that's for Ubuntu, not Lubuntu
[20:44] <Ben64> theres no difference
[20:45] <ikonia> ipatrol: the whole point of it is - it minimal, it contains no desktop
[20:45] <ikonia> ipatrol: so there can't be a minimal for each distro
[20:45] <ipatrol> ikonia: OHHHH
[20:45] <ipatrol> then it should be linked on Lubuntu's page, because it's not
[20:45] <ikonia> why ?
[20:46] <ikonia> a basic understanding of what the mini is before using it seems more than a basic requirement
[20:46] <Pici> Ideally Lubuntu's page should link directly to the Minimal page instead of duplicating information.
[20:47] <ipatrol> Pici: precisely my thought
[20:47] <ipatrol> and then say "Once you have done that, continue with the instructions below"
[20:48] <ipatrol> then yada yada ...
[20:48] <thirax> Hi
[20:49] <ipatrol> ikonia: the structure of Lubuntu's page didn't make it immediately obvious that the minimal installer is shared
[20:50] <ikonia> ipatrol: think about it - what does the minimal iso contain....
[20:50] <Ben64> nothing (pretty much)
[20:50] <ipatrol> ikonia: an installer for a basic command-line environment
[20:50] <Pici> I updated some of the page... but it still needs a big cleanup.. lots of this info is confusing.
[20:50] <ikonia> ipatrol: right, so why would there need to be different versions ?
[20:50] <reisio> I dare say most people don't even realize the only difference between the various Ubuntu flavors is which packages (which are available for any Ubuntu) are installed beforehand
[20:50] <ipatrol> I thought maybe it had a different set of components
[20:51] <ipatrol> reisio: some flavors also have tweaks to their kernels
[20:51] <Hulio> hi guys, anyone know how to insall LSB via terminal?
[20:51] <ikonia> ipatrol: no they don't
[20:51] <ikonia> Hulio: installl lsb ?
[20:51] <Hulio> i try to install epson printer, it need lsb
[20:51] <Pici> ipatrol: in the past they did, not so much anymore.
[20:52] <reisio> ipatrol: I hear they have different colored wallpapers, too
[20:52] <ipatrol> !studio | Pici
[20:52] <ikonia> Hulio: lsb is normally a meta package
[20:52] <Pici> Hulio: Ubuntu is no longer LSB compliant, what are you trying to accomplish?
[20:52] <k-abraham> try to update
[20:52] <nis> bluetooth not detecting  device...anyone know a fix?
[20:52] <ikonia> Hulio: what package are you trying to actually install ?
[20:52] <Hulio> i am trying to install epson printer driver
[20:52] <ikonia> Hulio: from where ?
[20:52] <Pici> ipatrol: I meant more regarding server/non-server.  studio is a special case :)
[20:52] <Hulio> http://download.ebz.epson.net/dsc/du/02/DriverDownloadInfo.do?LG2=EN&CN2=&DSCMI=45427&DSCCHK=dbd222ef019e11433beed9d553bd567029c06dd8
[20:52] <ipatrol> Studio uses a different kernel
[20:53] <dars> In Ubuntu 16.04 menu options not shown
[20:53] <Hulio> ikonia, not sure how to install epson printer driver
[20:53] <Hulio> i have ubuntu 16.04 LTS
[20:53] <Hulio> i have XP-850
[20:53] <ipatrol> Pici: but given that Studio happens to be the flavor I'm using, that affects my viewpoint. I was unaware it was a special case.
[20:53] <ikonia> Hulio: this is the problem, providers such as epson are packaging "genric"
[20:54] <thirax>  HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 4.4.0-22-generic x86_64 ** Distro: Ubuntu "xenial" 16.04 ** CPU: 4 x Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4030U CPU @ 1.90GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1,90GHz ** RAM: Physical: 7,7GiB, 61,8% free ** Disk: Total: 967,0GiB, 17,7% free ** VGA: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDMI1: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH ** Ethernet: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. CIe Gigabit
[20:54] <thirax> Ethernet ** Uptime: 2h 57m 20s **
[20:54] <Pici> ipatrol: know you know :)
[20:54] <Pici> thirax: please don;t.
[20:54] <ipatrol> !pastebin | thirax
[20:54] <dars> In Ubuntu 16.04 menu options not shown which used to appear on header of any s/w like file>edit  etc
[20:54] <dars> Help
[20:54] <dars> Anyone
[20:54] <nis> bluetooth help please
[20:54] <ipatrol> dars: that's a desktop environment thing
[20:55] <ipatrol> if you don't like the arrangement, you should probably pick a different one
[20:55] <thirax> ccsm ?
[20:55] <dars> ipatrol : from where do I change
[20:55] <Pici> Hulio: it may help us if you can share the error or issue you're seeing.  I need to go afk myself though.
[20:56] <ikonia> it's a generic deb package, that depends on the lsb package, it's not going to work
[20:56] <ipatrol> dars: generally you start by installing the desktop package for the new DE, then switch to it from the session manager, then remove the old DE
[20:56] <dars> Ohh
[20:56] <ipatrol> note this will probably break more than a few packages at first
[20:57] <ipatrol> !desktop | dars
[20:58] <ipatrol> the names in parenthesis are the packages for the respective DEs
[20:58] <dars> But sometimes the menus appear automatically
[20:58] <dars> And sometime not
[20:58] <ipatrol> dars: depends on which toolkit the GUI is using
[20:59] <auronandace> dars: mouse over the top bar
[20:59] <ipatrol> dars: oh, is your issue with the windows to specific GUIs, or the desktop itself?
[21:02] <ipatrol> new editions often change aspects of the UI. Personally, I think that distros should think of UIs the same way they think of system components, that is to say don't make sudden, drastic changes to them
[21:02] <trents> thanks
[21:02] <reisio> ipatrol: mmm, but distros don't usually control that
[21:02] <trents> IRC is magic... hahaha
[21:03] <reisio> DE maintainers certainly should think that way, though
[21:03] <ipatrol> reisio: downstream is not obligated to push everything the DE devs cook up
[21:04] <ipatrol> and given the way a certain set of DE devs behave, I'd say trying to get them to think differently about UI changes is like pleading with water to stop being wet
[21:06] <ipatrol> so it's left to the distro maintainers not to break interoperability with those squishy little computing devices sitting in front of the screen :-)
[21:06] <reisio> ipatrol: they're even more not obliged to maintain things they haven't before, however
[21:07] <reisio> that's untenable
[21:07] <reisio> Canonical, for example, doesn't have the developer to maintain GNOME 2, for example
[21:07] <reisio> the developerS
[21:07] <reisio> or KDE
[21:07] <ipatrol> reisio: let's take this to -devel
[21:07] <ikonia> lets not
[21:07] <reisio> or anything else of much weight
[21:07] <ikonia> that's not what -devel is for
[21:07] <ikonia> maybe #ubuntu-discuss
[21:07] <ikonia> of #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:08] <ipatrol> ikonia: discuss sounds good
[21:12] <mohammed> hi
[21:13] <ipatrol> Guest10263: yes?
[21:14] <nis> can someone help fix some bluetooth issues?
[21:14] <ipatrol> nis: depends, what is it?
[21:14] <Hulio> this is what i get:
[21:14] <Hulio> This package is uninstallable
[21:14] <Hulio> Dependency is not satisfiable: lsb (>= 3.2)
[21:14] <ipatrol> Hulio: still on that?
[21:15] <Hulio> yeah
[21:15] <nis> ipatrol: i can connect my headphones to it
[21:15] <ikonia> its not going to work
[21:15] <Hulio> why is it so complicated to install epson printer in linux?
[21:15] <ikonia> Hulio: because epson don't maintain their packages
[21:15] <Hulio> i download their .deb file
[21:15] <ikonia> yes
[21:15] <ikonia> Hulio: what distro is that .deb for
[21:15] <ipatrol> Hulio: because proprietary drivers are a ${female_dog} to work with
[21:15] <Hulio> ubuntu
[21:15] <ikonia> Hulio: how do you know
[21:15] <Hulio> i dont know
[21:15] <ikonia> Hulio: where does it say that package is for ubuntu
[21:16] <nis> ipatrol: i cant  connect headphones to it , plus i dont know if it is working properly
[21:16] <Hulio> well let me check
[21:16] <ikonia> Hulio: right - because it's not for ubuntu, it's for generic debian based distro
[21:16] <Hulio> ok just tell me how to install
[21:16] <Hulio> i dont know much
[21:16] <ikonia> Hulio: it's not going to install
[21:16] <Hulio> so how will i get my printer to work then
[21:16] <Hulio> so freaking complicated
[21:16] <ipatrol> Hulio: find a different printer
[21:16] <ikonia> Hulio: contact Epson would be the first startpoing point
[21:17] <ikonia> Hulio: you can install with ignore dependencies options, but I'm not going to advise that
[21:17] <ipatrol> ikonia: yeah, not gonna help. Epson is dense as lead bricks
[21:17] <ikonia> that is the right process though, contact epson to support their packages
[21:17] <Hulio> i google ..can't seem to find any instruction to mke it work
[21:17] <Hulio> so darn sad
[21:17] <ikonia> Hulio: I've just explained why/how
[21:18] <ipatrol> ikonia: and I'm going to advise him not to waste his time
[21:19] <Hulio> is this ligit?  idont even see ubuntu software center
[21:19] <Hulio> http://tutorialforlinux.com/2016/01/15/how-to-install-epson-inkjet-printers-driver-quick-start-scanning-on-ubuntu-16-04-xenial-lts-linux-easy-guide/
[21:19] <ipatrol> Hulio: take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers and find one that's actually supported
[21:19] <ikonia> Hulio: I don't trust that site
[21:19] <Hulio> oh ok
[21:20] <nis> anyone know how to connect some bluetooth headphones?
[21:22] <ipatrol> nis: what kind?
[21:22] <Ben64> nis: you're likely to get better answers if you explain what you're doing, and what problems you're encountering. "Anyone.....?" questions pretty much are useless
[21:22] <Hulio> ipatrol, i got it to work fully good:   sudo apt-get install printer-driver-escpr
[21:22] <Hulio> :)
[21:23] <Hulio> ikonia, i can you don't know : sudo apt-get install printer-driver-escpr
[21:23] <mohammed__> salut tt le monde
[21:23] <nis> ipatrol: its sony headphones, i cant find my device on bluetooth manager
[21:23] <Hulio> ikonia, ipatrol http://askubuntu.com/questions/763157/ubuntu-16-04-installing-epson-driver-fails-on-lsb-3-2
[21:23] <Hulio> ipatrol, ikonia , you're welcome
[21:23] <ipatrol> Hulio: no need to get condescending
[21:24] <Hulio> haha
[21:24] <Hulio> thanks anyway
[21:24] <ipatrol> Hulio: what model?
[21:24] <Hulio> XP-850
[21:24] <nis> Ben64: i cant find by device in the list when i open bluetooth manager
[21:25] <Ben64> nis: you might need to put the device into the proper mode, check the manual
[21:25] <ipatrol> wait, I meant nis. nis: what model of headphones?
[21:25] <nis> ipatrol: sony xb950bt
[21:26] <nis> Ben64: i do have it in the pairing mode...but it doesnt show up on the list , am not sure if my bluetooth firmware is loaded
[21:28] <nis> ipatrol: is there a way to check my bluetooth adapter is working right and the correct firmware is installed?
[21:28] <Ben64> try pairing a different device?
[21:29] <bst11> hi I
[21:29] <nis> Ben64: i tried my phone but thats not showing up either
[21:30] <ipatrol> nis: and those devices have bluetooth enabled and in pairing mode on their ends?
[21:30] <bst11> I'm using ubuntu 16.04 i just reinstalled virtualbox from the repo and Im getting the error:   Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)
[21:30] <bst11> The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please install virtualbox-dkms package and load the kernel module by executing
[21:30] <bst11> 'modprobe vboxdrv'
[21:30] <bst11> as root. If it is available in your distribution, you should install the DKMS package first. This package keeps track of Linux kernel changes and recompiles the vboxdrv kernel module if necessary.
[21:30] <bst11> where: suplibOsInit what: 3 VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED (-1908) - The support driver is not installed. On linux, open returned ENOENT.
[21:30] <ipatrol> !pastebin | bst11
[21:31] <nis> ipatrol: yes they are in pairing mode
[21:31] <hamza> hi
[21:31] <tooryasnm> anyone know good system resource widget for plasma 5?
[21:31] <hamza> i m new to raspberry pi
[21:31] <ipatrol> nis: and the bluetooth chip is enabled on your machine?
[21:32] <nis> ipatrol: how do i check?
[21:32] <ipatrol> nis: set your computer as discoverable and see if your phone picks it up
[21:33] <squinty> nis,  dmesg | grep -i bluetooth   look for errors displayed.   just out of curiosity I ran that here and just found out that it displayed a firmware error for my broadcom bluetooth adapter  lol
[21:33] <nis> ipatrol: how do i do that?
[21:33] <ipatrol> squinty: that can also help, but unless you know what to look for, you might get a lot of chaff in that
[21:34] <ipatrol> plus since bluetooth is often abbreviated as bt, you probably need a slightly broader regex
[21:34] <nis> squinty: http://pastebin.com/zS9stUTw
[21:34] <nis> ipatrol: http://pastebin.com/zS9stUTw
[21:34] <bst11> okay Ipatrol this is the link
[21:34] <squinty> ipatrol, as i clearly stated "look for error"
[21:34] <bst11> http://paste.ubuntu.com/16352946/
[21:35] <squinty> nis,  yes you have broadcom too
[21:36] <nis> squinty: there is an error..is that the reason am not seeing my device?
[21:36] <ipatrol> squinty: does broadcom have a bad history with linux?
[21:37] <squinty> nis:  could very well be. a quick google of my error message shows there is a bug report for that.  checking it out
[21:38] <nis> squinty: google doesnt show much results with that error
[21:40] <squinty> nis: might want to read this  http://askubuntu.com/questions/748387/ubuntu-15-10-usb-bluetooth-not-working   as a starting point
[21:53] <squinty> nis,  ran across this one too but it applies to my broadcom model here.  you may want to google for your model number and the firmware name
[21:53] <squinty> nis:  http://plugable.com/2014/06/23/plugable-usb-bluetooth-adapter-solving-hfphsp-profile-issues-on-linux
[21:54] <bst11> pls help i just reinstalled virtualbox on my ubuntu 16.04 and i get this error    http://paste.ubuntu.com/16352946/
[21:54] <ikonia> bst11: have you checked what the error message is telling you to
[21:56] <nis> squinty: well my headphone doesnt have a plugable adapter
[21:56] <bst11> ikonia it says modprobe: FATAL: Module vboxdrv not found in directory /lib/modules/4.4.0-22-generic
[21:57] <ikonia> bst11: have you installed the packages it told you to install if possible ?
[21:57] <bst11> which package pls
[21:58] <ikonia> the one it says in the error message you posted
[21:59] <bst11> I installed virtualbox and it run into this error when i try to run it
[21:59] <ikonia> no, the package it explicitly calls out in the error message you posted
[22:00] <bst11> yes i installed them all
[22:00] <ikonia> which package am I asking you about ?
[22:00] <OerHeks> bst11, virtualbox-dkms too?
[22:00] <bst11> virtualbox-dkms??
[22:00] <reisio> ???
[22:00] <OerHeks> that is what the error suggests
[22:00] <ikonia> the one it's saying in error message
[22:00] <bst11> yeah i did
[22:01] <ikonia> bst11: please pastebin the output of "dpkg -l | grep virtualbox"
[22:01] <ikonia> !info virtualbox-dmks
[22:01] <ikonia> !info virtualbox-dkms
[22:02] <nis> anyone know a fix to this error  "firmware load for brcm/BCM.hcd failed with error -2"
[22:03] <bst11> ikonia http://paste.ubuntu.com/16353108/
[22:05] <ikonia> bst11: ok - ao there should be a script that the dkms package should execute to build the module
[22:05] <bst11> yes there is and it is missing
[22:05] <ikonia> what is there ?
[22:05] <ikonia> where are you looking for the script ?
[22:06] <bst11> it is /dev/vboxdrv
[22:06] <ikonia> no it's not
[22:06] <ikonia> that is a device file
[22:06] <squinty> nis,  well even after following the instructions on that last web page I sent you, dmesg still shows it barfing when trying to load the firmware.  will work on this a little later when I also have bluetooth headphones and keyboard to work with.
[22:06] <nis> anyone know firmware load for brcm/BCM.hcd failed with error -2
[22:07] <nis> squinty: thanx for your help
[22:07] <bst11> that is the only scrip that comes from the error
[22:07] <nis> squinty: can you resend that last link, coz i restarted
[22:08] <squinty> nis: http://plugable.com/2014/06/23/plugable-usb-bluetooth-adapter-solving-hfphsp-profile-issues-on-linux     might want to have a poke around the site for your model number  ya never know you might get lucky :-)
[22:08] <bst11> ikonia VERR_VM_DRIVER_NOT_INSTALLED (-1908)
[22:09] <nis> squinty: this id for headphones with plugable adapter. i dont have a plugable adapter
[22:11] <squinty> nis,  have you checked Additional Drivers for any offers.  nothing shows up here for mine but my unit is external usb dongle
[22:12] <nis> squinty: no i havent found any additional drivers either
[22:13] <OerHeks> ikonia, do you mean this setup ? sudo /usr/lib/virtualbox/vboxdrv.sh setup >>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/724127/virtualbox-error-after-installing-new-linux-kernel-4-4
[22:13] <nis> squinty: this looks intriguing http://askubuntu.com/questions/764273/bluetooth-headphones-on-ubuntu-16-04
[22:14] <UnnamedUser> Hey, has anyone played with Ubuntu on the WIndows Surface Pro?
[22:15] <ZoderUck> hi
[22:15] <squinty> nis,  did you try installing or reinstalling bluez as per that first web link I sent?  Just wondering if that work for your onboard.....
[22:16] <nis> squinty: i reinstalled and now i can use the applet to search but still device doesnt show up
[22:16] <RippyD1ppy> Anyone try Ubuntu on a surface?
[22:17] <OerHeks> RippyD1ppy, there are 4 surface pro's ..
[22:17] <squinty> RippyD1ppy,  #ubuntu-touch  maybe more applicable
[22:18] <nis> squinty: even my phone doesnt get detected
[22:19] <squinty> nis,  and you clicked on the bluetooth icon so that both bluetooth is On and Visable?
[22:19] <reisio> RippyD1ppy: probably someone
[22:20] <nis> squinty: i go to setting and click ON for bluetooth
[22:20] <nis> squinty: how do i know if it visible:
[22:20] <squinty> nis,  should be a visable toggle in the uper right hand corner
[22:21] <nis> squinty: i think my laptop is not visible, but i cant find the toggle can send a screenshot
[22:21] <Bashing-om> !ubuwin | RippyD1ppy
[22:21] <ZoderUck> how do enable the intellisense in visual code for  an external require module ?
[22:22] <ikonia> OerHeks: looks likely
[22:22] <nis> squinty: my phone is not detecting laptop either
[22:24] <squinty> nis, fwiw, i have gnome-bluetooth installed here (default) so maybe bluez has slightly different interfaces.  might want to try that to see if it makes a difference
[22:25] <ZoderUck> uh what
[22:30] <psfal> Hey all
[22:31] <squinty> nis, https://ibin.co/2gibH7ENhym8.png
[22:32] <nis> squinty: how did u launch gnome bluetooth , i just installed it
[22:32] <squinty> nis, might have to log out and back in again or if that fails reboot
[22:33] <psfal> Can anyone help with some pointers on flagging a script back to a config file?
[22:33] <bekks> psfal: ?
[22:33] <peterrooney> psfal: what do you mean?
[22:34] <psfal> I wrote some desktop config settings into an adduser.local file, which is supposed to run when a user is added. But I have to manually run it from terminal in the user's account
[22:36] <psfal> You'll pardon me, I haven't used IRC since the '90s and have long since forgotten what commands to use
[22:40] <nis> squinty: do u have the error which says brcm/BCM.hcd not found
[22:40] <dead> can you explain what libjpeg-turbo8 is??
[22:40] <reisio> dead: library providing JPEG support
[22:40] <dead> yes i know, but the latest version of libjpeg-turbo is 1.4.2
[22:40] <dead> what is the 8??
[22:40] <psfal> Am I still here?
[22:41] <dead> I have a binary from ubuntu package that is looking for libjpeg.so.8 which is libjpeg-turbo8
[22:41] <dead> which literally seems to be libjpeg-turbo with the version number changed to 8 for some reason?
[22:41] <dead> why?
[22:41] <squinty> nis,  no mine is different  hci0: Direct firmware load for brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd failed with error -2  [    7.264915] Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: Patch brcm/BCM20702A1-0a5c-21e8.hcd not found
[22:41] <Bashing-om> dead: ' apt show libjpeg-turbo8 ' gives some good hints .
[22:42] <GnomeKris> I can't get over half my games to work on steam here. I had it where EVERY game I owned worked before, but don't remember what I did to make them work. I know I was using the proprietary, updated drivers from amd, but no matter what I try now, the games just won't load
[22:42] <squinty> nis,  no luck with gnome-bluetooth?
[22:43] <dead> Bashing-om: i don't have ubuntu, thats why I'm asking what this package is
[22:43] <nis> squinty: yeah thats also there for me....but in the begining  of the output do u see this msg? brcm/BCM.hcd not found  thats the file it needs to
[22:43] <GnomeKris> I'm on 14.04 btw. Had them running on 14.04 before, but had to fresh install, and can't seem to get it working this time.
[22:43] <dead> it doesn't seem to exist on debian either.. :/
[22:44] <ZoderUck> hi
[22:44] <reisio> ohai
[22:44] <ZoderUck> who uses visual studio code editor for node.js ?
[22:44] <reisio> ZoderUck: people who hate themselves
[22:44] <ZoderUck> ow
[22:44] <squinty> nis, no just what I posted
[22:44] <ZoderUck> reisio, and people that hate you
[22:45] <reisio> doesn't have much to do with me
[22:45] <dead> i linked my libjpeg-turbo 1.4.2 to libjpeg-turbo.so.8 and now the program says 'LIBJPEG_TURBO8 not set"
[22:45] <dead> so you've hacked libjpeg-turbo.so.8 just to includ esome magic version 8 in there
[22:46] <dead> why
[22:46] <psfal> ping
[22:47] <reisio> dead: you said your .so is .so.8?
[22:47] <reisio> dead: do you need more explanation?
[22:48] <Bashing-om> dead: " This package contains the shared library which is a drop in replacement for libjpeg8, which has better performance than standard libjpeg by use of SIMD and other optimizations.
[22:48] <nis> squinty: http://pastebin.com/drhZbSCQ you can see that bcm.hcd not found
[22:48] <dead> there is no libjpeg8 dude
[22:48] <dead> what is libjpeg8
[22:49] <dead> the current version of libjpeg-turbo is 1.4.2
[22:49] <dead> where does the 8 come from?
[22:49] <reisio> dead: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version
[22:49] <reisio> it's for the convenience of the package manager/package maintainers
[22:49] <phillyj> i think my ubuntu is running fsck on every boot. Why is this and how to fix? Please help
[22:50] <k1l> dead: what ubuntu do you use?
[22:50] <k1l> dead: and what package is making that error?
[22:50] <psfal> I wrote some desktop config settings into an adduser.local file, which is supposed to run when a user is added. But I have to manually run it from terminal in the user's account, how do I get it to run automatically?
[22:50] <squinty> nis,  yes   it's saying pretty much the same thing as my error message... that is a firmware file is missing and so can not be loaded.
[22:51] <dead> reisio: yeah, that sucks, ok thank you.
[22:51] <nis> squinty: any way to manually install it like what is said in this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2274335
[22:52] <squinty> nis:  i searched for your file name at http://packages.ubuntu.com/  (and mine for that matter) but nothing turned up
[22:54] <squinty> nis:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/688987/bluetooth-problem   same error message as yours
[22:57] <iBurley> Hey guys, quick question. On the command line, is it possible to pipe the result of a command to specific spot in a text file? I need to make a bash file that runs on boot to find the public IP and put it into a text file on like, say 28, after 'IP Address= '. Is that possible?
[22:57] <nis> squinty: do u know how to launch gnome bluetooth from terminal?
[22:59] <iBurley> nis, you could run 'gnome-control-center' from terminal and click on Bluetooth, if that's possible.
[23:00] <nis> squinty: how do i launch gnome control center?
[23:00] <nis> iBurley thanx
[23:01] <Guy1524> so I have a laptop and I would like to launch a gnome-shell and have it launch steam so I can do steam in home streaming
[23:01] <Guy1524> I cant connect a monitor and input to it
[23:01] <Guy1524> any ideas?
[23:01] <Guy1524> the most preferable way would be to have all video out be streamed to my computer so I can log in and launch steam
[23:08] <dibs> I'm restoring my gourps at the moment after an accident. Could anyone who has a LAMP stack on ubuntu send me their groups list please?
[23:10] <drong0> is anyone plagued with the caps lock lag? i've been googling and it seems to be around and i still encounter it in 16.10
[23:10] <drong0> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-keyboard/+bug/1376903
[23:13] <squinty> nis,  try  nm-applet
[23:13] <nis> squinty: is it preinstalled?
[23:13] <squinty> nis,  that is what starts gnome-bluetooth
[23:16] <nis> squinty: i see a network in gnome control center, is that it?
[23:18] <dna113p> Hello. I am having an issue where setting keybindings in ccsm doesn't work. The bindings show they are set in ccsm but dont' work at all outside of it. What might cause this?
[23:18] <squinty> nis, not to be honest.  where are you seeing gnome control center.   if you just type in a terminal   nm-applet   that should produce a working bluetooth icon on the top panel
[23:26] <nis> squinty: i made some changes and now i get a different msgs for dmesg     http://pastebin.com/spz8uZN3
[23:27] <nis> squinty: this might help you, but it didnt help me, notice that you have to change step 2 for ubuntu versions after 15.04   http://askubuntu.com/questions/617513/bluetooth-not-connecting-to-devices-even-though-it-recognizes-them
[23:29] <iBurley> So you can use the 'sed' command to send a specific line or range of one file to another file, but can the export send to a specific line as well? Could I say like "send the contents of this text file to line 23 of this text file"?
[23:33] <nis> squinty: i typed nm-applet it didn't do anything, prolly coz am running gnome environment than unity
[23:34] <squinty> nis,  thanks.  that was a similar method I tried at first but still got the firmware error.   You might want to check out the following:  http://askubuntu.com/questions/632336/bluetooth-broadcom-43142-isnt-working-on-ubuntu
[23:35] <squinty> nis, ahhhh  ok  thanks for the heads up
[23:35] <hoopoo685> Does anyone know how to switch from developmental version of Ubuntu 16.04 to the stable version?
[23:36] <squinty> nis, btw, which broadcom model do you have?
[23:36] <nis> squinty: how to finnd out?
[23:36] <squinty> hoopoo685, if you have been doing full-upgrades you should be current
[23:37] <k1l> !final | hoopoo685
[23:37] <squinty> nis,  look for it by using  lsusb or lspci
[23:37] <Bashing-om> hoopoo685: ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' . To make sure you are current .
[23:38] <nis> squinty: is this wat youb are looking for 07:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)
[23:39] <hoopoo685> Thanks
[23:40] <squinty> nis,  sounds like it
[23:45] <squinty> nis,  seems quite a few hits when googling for that model.  here is another page which also says that a user's problem was solved by grabbing the windows related file (also outlined in a previous link I sent you)    http://askubuntu.com/questions/533043/bluetooth-not-working-on-ubuntu-14-04-with-dell-inspiron-15-3521
[23:49] <gumbo> help
[23:49] <gumbo> lol i tried to set up pptpd but its not connecting
[23:50] <gumbo> its ona ubuntu 14.04 server lts
[23:52] <squinty> nis,  off to prepare supper etc here...  hope you make some headway on your problem. ttyl
[23:52] <nis> squinty: ttyl
[23:57] <DashingThunder> Hi