[00:51] <phillw> wxl: phillw@piglet:~/Desktop/ISOs$ zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/trusty/daily-live/20160217.1/trusty-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync
[00:51] <phillw> failed on url http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/trusty/daily-live/20160217.1/trusty-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync
[00:51] <phillw> could not read control file from URL http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/trusty/daily-live/20160217.1/trusty-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync
[00:52] <wxl> yep
[00:52] <wxl> apparently the sync is going slow for everyone
[00:52] <phillw> kk
[00:54] <phillw> seems cdimage has taken its ball in..
[00:54] <phillw>  wget http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/trusty/daily-live/20160217.1/trusty-desktop-i386.iso
[00:54] <phillw> --2016-02-18 01:53:39--  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/trusty/daily-live/20160217.1/trusty-desktop-i386.iso
[00:54] <phillw> Resolving cdimage.ubuntu.com... <IP_ADDRESS>, 2001:67c:1360:8001::1d
[00:54] <phillw> Connecting to cdimage.ubuntu.com|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80... connected.
[00:54] <phillw> HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
[00:54] <phillw> 2016-02-18 01:53:39 ERROR 404: Not Found.
[00:54] <wxl> yep, it's the directory seems to appear and disappear when it syncs
[01:10] <wxl> word is you should be good to go phillw
[01:10] <phillw> wxl: kk, how the <expletive> do restart network under 14.04 ?
[01:11] <phillw> does it use the init.d system?
[01:26] <wxl> phillw: yep
[01:26] <phillw> it bitched, I used init 6 :P
[01:27] <wxl> well i'll say this, systemd on trusty is a bad thing, as Unit193 will attest
[01:32] <phillw> virt11 can see the world!!!
[01:34] <ianorlin> gah my power went out
[01:35] <wxl> we have some issues with out gutter and window :(
[01:37] <ianorlin> first time it came down during an install of a vm
[01:37] <wxl> were you installing a power pc vm?
[01:37] <phillw> ianorlin: ouch, they do not like that!!!
[01:37] <wxl> HAH I"M SO FUNNY!
[01:37] <ianorlin> no AMD 64
[01:54] <Unit193> wxl: Eh?
[03:25] <phillw> wxl: all 8 tests for intel done and passed http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/356/builds you'll have to prod one of the ppc guys to have a check of that architecture... This little piggy is off to bed (~ 03:30 AM here)
[15:03] <wxl> thanks to all who tested
[15:06] <wxl> did anyone, by chance, check to see if old bugs are still relevant? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu
[15:42] <phillw> wxl: I was going to 'roll' with the 'known bugs list' from ubuntu themselves.
[15:46] <phillw> wxl: found it !! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/14.04.3
[15:46] <phillw> there will be a 14.04.4 page made by them :)
[15:48] <phillw> There are no lubuntu specific bugs
[16:39] <redwolf> when you finish, will I have content for the blog?
[16:40] <phillw> redwolf: as part of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu It will be a repeat of 14.04.3 section, just pointing to the new 14.04.4 section that 'main' do .
[16:41] <redwolf> I wait for it to be finished then
[16:41] <phillw> redwolf: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO#Notes_for_Point_Release
[16:42] <phillw> This is the 1st appearance of 'point release' on that section. So it will be a learning one.
[16:42] <redwolf> mhm
[16:46] <phillw> redwolf: oooh, good time for the wiki system to decide to go '500 Error' .. :/
[16:56] <redwolf> O.O
[17:02] <phillw> nad.. it's back :)
[17:02] <phillw> and
[17:02] <phillw> unlike my typing :P
[17:05] <phillw> wxl: when do they expect release?
[17:23]  * phillw I KNEW I'd done it.... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu has the 14.04.4 section there, just commented out :)
[17:24] <redwolf> LTS? really?
[17:31] <phillw> redwolf: yeah, instead of a +1 page, I added in the new stuff, but left it commented out :)
[17:32] <phillw> I have ammended the Pre-Post instructions to take account of this :)
[17:32] <redwolf> okay
[17:32] <phillw> the GetLTS page is a new page, as it has all new links to cdimage etc.
[17:33] <phillw> wxl: as we have an image for ppc 14.04.4, I've updated the GetLTS+1 page to reflect this.
[17:35] <redwolf> if there're changes I'll have to modify the lubuntu.me ones too
[17:36] <phillw> redwolf: previously, the ppc stopped at 14.04.2, there was not a 14.04.3 release.
[17:37] <phillw> redwolf: if you need the links as I have them prepared, hop onto https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu/LTS+1
[17:37] <redwolf> I saw that, yes. and alternates keep at 14.04.1
[17:37] <phillw> yes, there was a change in build method that broke them :)
[17:37] <redwolf> so, only desktop ISOs
[17:38] <phillw> Yes, since 14.04.1
[17:38] <redwolf> okies, I'm doing the changes now, and we'll prepare the post later
[17:38] <phillw> I've got this all to again next week!!!!
[17:41] <redwolf> no ISOs yet there ;)
[17:42] <redwolf> expect time of "cooking"?
[17:42] <phillw> redwolf: I asked wxl last I looked, we were waiting for kubuntu :)
[17:42] <redwolf> okies
[17:43] <phillw> redwolf: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/356/builds
[17:43] <phillw> and a couple of other stragglers :)
[17:43] <redwolf> I don't want to change the links until they're physically there. we have 600+ daily visits. I don't want hundreds of "hey! there's no ISO in the blog!"
[17:46] <phillw> No, you do not get brownie points for sending people to the iso-tracker to grab ISO's... OMGUbuntu have been guilty of that in the past - and even I've taken them to task over screwing up (slowing down) the mirroring of the official ISO's and said they were guilty of a spam attack on the iso-server system as it tried to update the mirrors around the world.
[17:46] <phillw> I have a nice turn of phrase when needed :P
[17:47] <phillw> Actually, while we wait.... I'll grab the iso's onto phillw.net mirror :)
[17:50] <redwolf> okies
[18:00] <wxl> ok i'm finally here everyone
[18:01] <teward> wxl: LATE
[18:01] <wxl> shuttup teward you're not the boss of me
[18:01] <wxl> we release already?
[18:02] <teward> well, i'm skipping classes today to relax, so i'm not one to talk ;)  you have a ping elsewhere though
[18:02] <wxl> i saw phillw blowing me up as well as a locoteam cc catchup i must have apparently missed :(
[18:03] <teward> that's not why I sent you a PM or another ping ;)
[18:04] <wxl> it came in between coming back and going away
[18:04] <wxl> ugh i hate that
[18:23] <wxl> um phillw where's our draft page?
[18:31] <phillw> wxl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO#Notes_for_Point_Release
[18:31] <phillw> exactly where they are supposed to be :)
[18:31] <wxl> comments, duh
[18:31] <wxl> thanks phillw  you're a life saver
[18:32] <wxl> redwolf: i am on both channels, you know? :)
[18:32] <phillw> wxl: it is not a new release, it is adding on to the life story of an LTS.  :P
[18:33] <phillw> I think I'll just pop it at the top, with a quick link to 14.04
[18:33] <wxl> !language redwolf
[18:33] <redwolf> O.O
[18:33] <wxl> !language| redwolf
[18:33] <redwolf> crap?
[18:33] <wxl> XD
[18:33]  * wxl pets redwolf
[18:33] <redwolf> turd?
[18:34] <wxl> phillw: yeah it's going to be a pain for sure.
[18:34] <phillw> I'll have a thunk and draft something up. wxl will there be a 14.04.5 ? or is the .4 release the last one for an LTS>
[18:34] <phillw> s/>/?
[18:35] <wxl> yes there will be more phillw
[18:35] <wxl> let me finish this sso and i'll get the details
[18:39] <phillw> wxl: okies... no rush, I've dinner to finish off and eat :)
[18:53] <wxl> redwolf: you all ready to announce our new point release? today's the day
[18:53] <redwolf> YES!
[18:54] <wxl> k
[18:54] <redwolf> but I need the final links first
[18:54] <wxl> release notes (thanks to phillw) are all ready to go with a wee tweak by me
[18:54] <redwolf> O.O
[18:54] <wxl> i'm just waiting on the ok from release team
[18:55] <wxl> they're going a wee bit slow today it seems
[18:55] <redwolf> damn! I lost 14 users of FB. I pressed the Accept button but they're not in the group. this is the 3rd glitch like this I find
[18:56] <wxl> ugh
[18:56] <redwolf> I'll post their names as usual but asking for their collaboration to re-jin
[18:56] <redwolf> *re-join
[18:57] <wxl> do you intend to take care of the mailing lists, too, or shall i?
[18:58] <redwolf> sorry, I can't
[18:58] <redwolf> I need to prepare social things too
[18:58] <redwolf> can you do that?
[18:58] <wxl> ok i'll do that
[18:58] <wxl> sure
[18:58] <redwolf> ta!
[18:58] <wxl> blog, you got, i'm assuming too
[18:58] <redwolf> aye
[18:58] <wxl> might want to do that and just link to it
[18:58] <wxl> for all the other social shit
[18:59] <wxl> i'll take care of lxde mailing list too
[18:59] <redwolf> the blog must be modified (links to ISOs and torrent) and needs a post about the release
[18:59] <wxl> links here should be right https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu/LTS+1
[18:59] <redwolf> but this is still empty: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/trusty/release/
[18:59] <wxl> not that there are NO ALTERNATES
[18:59] <wxl> yeah it'll get changed
[18:59] <redwolf> nor there
[18:59] <wxl> there's also no amd64+mac version
[19:00] <redwolf> I know, alternates remain .1 and mac one
[19:00] <redwolf> only desktop
[19:00] <redwolf> but still no links
[19:00] <wxl> this is how we did it for 14.04.2-3
[19:00] <wxl> just wanted to remind you :)
[19:00] <redwolf> THAT is the right place, new images should appear there in a few hours
[19:00] <wxl> right exactly
[19:00] <redwolf> and I can't re-link yet
[19:01] <wxl> there's not a lot of stuff to report from the lubuntu end of things
[19:01] <redwolf> to avoid hundreds of user's messages
[19:01] <redwolf> I know :)
[19:01] <redwolf> but it deserves commenting at least
[19:01] <wxl> here's all the ubuntu fixes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/14.04.4
[19:01] <redwolf> yup
[19:02] <redwolf> and I WON'T mention the LTS one
[19:02] <wxl> hm?
[19:02] <redwolf> maybe MTS (mid-term support) LOL
[19:02] <redwolf> 14.04 is not a real LTS, only the core components
[19:02] <wxl> right
[19:03] <wxl> lots of kernel fixes
[19:03] <redwolf> yer!
[19:03] <redwolf> and tones of them for lightdm
[19:03] <wxl> yep
[19:03] <wxl> oh and there will be one more point release left
[19:03] <wxl> as is the plan with lts from here on out
[19:03] <wxl> total of 5
[19:04] <redwolf> O.O!
[19:04] <redwolf> that's a lot of them!
[19:04] <wxl> yeah well precise did the same thing
[19:04] <wxl> there's now bash-completion for the new apt (not apt-whatever) command
[19:04] <wxl> that's cool
[19:04] <redwolf> :)
[19:04] <wxl> ever since tsimonq2 showed me apt, i've been using the hell out of it
[19:04] <redwolf> good, because I hate zsh autocompletion
[19:05] <wxl> hehehe
[19:05] <wxl> couple apport fixes. maybe it won't hog up my cpu next time :/
[19:05] <redwolf> oh sorry, I'm not supposed to admit I use the Terminal o__o
[19:05] <teward> there are many of us though who will swear by apt-get ;0
[19:05] <wxl> looks like some broadcom fixes
[19:05] <wxl> hm
[19:05] <wxl> bzr sru
[19:06] <wxl> lots of little bits to prevent python errors
[19:06] <redwolf> omg, and a SUPER important gtk bug fix for the calculator!
[19:06] <wxl> which is a legitimate concern!
[19:06] <wxl> heh
[19:06] <redwolf> that one must be at headlines!
[19:06] <wxl> seriously
[19:06] <wxl> some people care XD
[19:06] <redwolf> I do care!
[19:45]  * phillw fed :D
[19:46] <phillw> redwolf: you must go into members and select 'by date joined'. I don't even bother with the other one.
[19:46] <phillw> redwolf: open it as a 2nd tab and then c+p accross
[19:49] <phillw> wxl: I see nothing on the ReleaseSchedule for that.... Mind you, it seems 16.04 has a 9 month support plan with no dates set for point releases. Is this part of ubuntu moving towards a rolling release?
[19:53] <redwolf> phillw, I already did that
[19:55] <phillw> redwolf: at best, I see maybe 6 out of 15 joined.... So, I just use that method all the time.
[19:55] <redwolf> not bad
[20:06] <phillw> wxl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1347345 unless Julien makes a real push to have it included into the build set, this is a won't fix.
[20:07] <phillw> wxl: "btrfs-tools is not seeded on lubuntu desktop 32bit "
[20:48] <wxl> yay server pass worked
[20:48] <wxl> phillw: for some reason, release team is a little slow on the uptake with updating the schedule for the release updates. you'll notice i did the last one!!!
[20:48] <wxl> s/release/point release/
[20:49] <phillw> wxl: I did see your name :) Once a wiki editor, always a wiki editor... Before I start to edit, I check to see who and when it was last updated....
[20:50] <phillw> wxl: also there is an email out in the wild for manual.
[20:50] <phillw> the DNS stuff with us has a proposed solution, but I DID promise J1213+
[20:51] <phillw> JasonO his VM as we all sort of hijacked virt10, and virt11 is to take 'clean' stuff such as lubuntu.me and mediawiki over to it.
[20:53] <phillw> Well, the wiki page HAS to be called LTS... So it will be as I envisioned, a split for 16.04 and 14.04 at the point where people land on the page, unless pointed to #16.04 or #14.04
[20:55] <wxl> yeah i think that makes sense re: LTS phillw
[20:55] <tsimonq2> wxl: heheheh this is what happens when you RTFM! XD
[20:55] <redwolf> *burp*
[20:55] <redwolf> news, wxl?
[20:55] <tsimonq2> wxl: also, thank Kamilion for showing me that :D
[20:55] <tsimonq2> (apt)
[20:55] <wxl> phillw: we have someone who stepped up with interest in helping docs, if that's what you mean.
[20:56] <phillw> wxl: I reckon that https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO#Notes_for_Point_Release can now handle things, as I've edited it to be https://wiki.ubuntu.com/full_name-of_release/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu
[20:57] <phillw> That should stop 14.04 tripping up over 16.04 etc
[20:58] <wxl> thanks for babysitting the wiki, phillw
[20:58] <phillw> wxl: I spend my life so doing... Permission to speak freely?
[20:59] <wxl> phillw: indeed
[21:02] <phillw> wxl: the TL of wikidocs  only ever has one person to help... All the people who sign up, actually never do any work. It is that reason why we lose TL's .. they get fed up of having a one way conversation with the the baby-sitter. This is a rather damning indictment on lubuntu, as with no docs and no wiki .. lubuntu would cease to exist. The people who have, over the years, taken on that role never had a 'team' to lead.
[21:02] <wxl> phillw: i agree. and that's why i asked for ANYONE who wants to help.
[21:03] <phillw> As you are are now babysitter, I wish you all the very best. I will still wiki edit as asked. But, one thing that could be easily split...
[21:05] <phillw> wxl: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO actually belongs to the devel team. Tutorials etc. belong to wikidocs team.
[21:05] <wxl> right
[21:06] <phillw> I've busted a gut, several times in setting up that area... it is time the devel team took ownership of it.
[21:07] <wxl> 'tis true
[21:07] <phillw> If we are to have a prayer of a new wiki area and manual, that team must be released from that burden.
[21:40] <wxl> time to go live folks
[21:43] <wxl> shit!
[21:43] <wxl> sorry
[21:43] <wxl> phillw: can you edit LTS+1? it's immutable to me which means i can't even copy it
[21:43] <phillw> wxl: on it
[21:47] <wxl> phillw: raf was going to take care of the social media bits, but now he's disappeared
[21:48] <wxl> phillw: nevermind i found raf
[21:48] <redwolf> I see the links
[21:49] <wxl> phillw: i'm having canonical IS look into getting privs to edit
[21:51] <phillw> w
[21:51] <phillw> wxl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu/LTS
[21:51] <phillw> now exists
[21:52] <phillw> it would not allow a delete and rename....
[21:52] <wxl> ugh
[21:52] <phillw> so, it was c+p ...
[21:52] <wxl> ok great thanks phillw
[21:52] <phillw> old dirty trick taught me when i was in short trousers as a wiki editor :P
[21:53] <redwolf> links for amd4, i386 and powerpc changed: http://lubuntu.me/downloads/
[21:54] <phillw> redwolf: good
[21:54] <redwolf> what should I post now?
[21:54] <phillw> wxl: also the mirror area was set up about 2 hours ago, but you'd have to be severe nerd to go find it :)
[21:56] <phillw> redwolf: use your imagination ... "the .4 step release of the 14.04 LTS has been released ....." then what ever you want from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu :)
[21:56] <wxl> apparently ACL on LTS+1 is set on the page itself. if you have edit privs, could you hand it to me, phillw ?
[21:56] <redwolf> all right
[21:57] <phillw> wxl: I'll delete the page. I only created it a while back, maybe during the spam attacks and it got locked down.
[21:59] <phillw> wxl: can you confirm that the links on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu/LTS are the correct ones before i nuke the +1 page?
[21:59] <wxl> phillw: a quick look confirms yes
[22:00] <phillw> redwolf: the list is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO#Use_press_announcement-1
[22:00] <redwolf> yup
[22:00] <phillw> not sure where the -1 came from !
[22:02] <phillw> wxl: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu/LTS+1 should show as deleted
[22:04] <phillw> redwolf: evidently, if you wish to titillate your readers, there will be a .5 release before 14.04 drops into the coffin, but you will need to ask wxl about that.....
[22:05] <redwolf> better not risk about that, the news about a .4 spin is enough
[22:05] <wxl> i just know the PLAN :)
[22:05] <redwolf> phillw, are you doing FB?
[22:06] <phillw> redwolf: I'm doing "You took a fine time to go for WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ... as am cross legged!!!!
[22:06] <redwolf> okies
[22:12] <phillw> redwolf: do you have a statement for me to c+p the Fb and g+ ?
[22:13] <phillw> wxl: you need to edit the topic :)
[22:13] <redwolf> I just used that text: http://lubuntu.me/lubuntu-14-04-4-released/
[22:14] <phillw> redwolf: have you done fb and g+ ?
[22:14] <redwolf> I'm on it. please, do g+
[22:14] <phillw> wilco
[22:15] <wxl> mailing lists are done
[22:15] <wxl> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2016-February/010308.html
[22:15] <wxl> The [release notes][1], which cover the latest update as well as the whole
[22:15] <wxl> history of the release, includes a download link at the bottom. I'm not
[22:15] <wxl> going to link it because you should read the notes first! :)
[22:17] <teward> wxl: um...
[22:17] <teward> [2016-02-18 17:16:44] <tsimonq2> wxl: ping, urgent, "Finally, a friendly reminder that the NEW LTS, Xenial Xerus 16.04, is due in seven days. So please keep on making Lubuntu better!"
[22:17] <teward> ^ not sure if that's accurate
[22:17]  * teward isn't on that list :)
[22:17] <tsimonq2> wxl: final little mini-paragraph
[22:17] <tsimonq2> wxl: it says that release date is in 7 days
[22:18] <teward> confirmed typo
[22:18] <teward> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-devel/2016-February/000203.html - last lines before the link line
[22:19] <tsimonq2> I'll send something in 10 minutes if wxl doesn't so Softpedia doesn't get any ideas XD
[22:20] <phillw> g+ done
[22:20] <wxl> why is that a typo?
[22:20] <wxl> oh
[22:20] <wxl> BETA 2
[22:21] <wxl> yeah if someone wants to reply to it, go for it
[22:21] <wxl> i'm too tired to bother with it
[22:21]  * tsimonq2 scrambles and does it
[22:21] <wxl> or beta 1 whatveer
[22:22] <wxl> still, something related to it is due in 7 days
[22:22] <wxl> close enough
[22:22] <redwolf> fb done
[22:22] <phillw> wxl: by then you will have someone to all the wiki notes, yes? :D :D ..... I thought not :( :P
[22:24] <phillw> let me catch up with redwolf as to the status of lubuntu.me which is to be on a server with 99.9% up time.
[22:24] <tsimonq2> wxl: sent
[22:27] <redwolf> twitter and reddit done
[22:38] <LStranger> wxl, saw your announce in the ML :)
[22:38] <LStranger> have you received my mail, BTW?
[22:39] <wxl> LStranger: yes i did. didn't have a chance to do anything last night but will today for sure
[22:40] <LStranger> oh, thank you.
[22:40] <wxl> LStranger: no, thank you!
[22:40] <LStranger> :)
[22:46] <LStranger> I wish I could manage my time better... then more issues would be fixed and more features would be implemented. :)


[07:23] <tomek__> hi
[07:23] <tomek__> can u help me i have to move buttons from left to right
[07:23] <tomek__> minimize maximize close
[16:02] <rharper> o/
[16:02] <smoser> o/
[16:02] <cpaelzer> o/
[16:03] <kickinz1> o/
[16:03] <matsubara> o/
[16:04] <caribou> o/
[16:04] <jgrimm> o/
[16:04] <jgrimm> hmm.. no nacc..
[16:04] <jgrimm> i'll take
[16:05] <jgrimm> #startmeeting ubuntu-server-team
[16:05] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Feb 23 16:05:10 2016 UTC.  The chair is jgrimm. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
[16:05] <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick
[16:05] <jgrimm> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:05] <rharper> jgrimm: I did let him know last week
[16:06] <jgrimm> rharper, indeed, i talked to him too.  but he's coming off of a vacation so easy to forget. :)
[16:06] <jgrimm> smoser fix bug 1543025
[16:06] <jgrimm> ^^  only action point from last week
[16:07] <smoser> yeah. fun. i need to fix.
[16:07] <jgrimm> smoser, anything to report on this one?
[16:07] <smoser> no.
[16:07] <jgrimm> no worries. been a busy busy busy last 2 weeks
[16:07] <jgrimm> #topic Xenial Development
[16:07] <jgrimm> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseSchedule
[16:08] <cpaelzer> FYI - we are successfully at DPDK 2.2.0-0ubuntu1 in xenial now - time to push the MIR again now
[16:08] <jgrimm> And FeatureFreeze hit last week.. thanks for all the teamwork and digging in that everyone did
[16:09] <jgrimm> Anyone want to talk about any FFE or other items related to FeatureFreeze?
[16:09] <cpaelzer> jgrimm: rbasak is not here but we might define an action for next weeks agenda to parse our open bugs if anything is super-critical before Xenial GA
[16:09] <jgrimm> cpaelzer, agreed
[16:10] <rharper> jgrimm: did we file/update FFE for docker ?
[16:10] <jgrimm> rharper, i don't think we need one
[16:10] <rharper> oh
[16:10] <rharper> hrm, ok
[16:10] <jgrimm> as have standing MRE
[16:10] <rharper> interesting
[16:10] <jgrimm> though it was agreed we need to update it
[16:11] <rharper> ok
[16:11] <cpaelzer> jgrimm: updated about the way it is now handled?
[16:12] <jgrimm> cpaelzer, there was an agreement in 14.04 timeframe for an MRE for docker.io. but that agreement said the situation should be reexamined in the 16.04 timeframe
[16:12] <cpaelzer> ok, thanks
[16:12] <jgrimm> np
[16:13] <jgrimm> smoser, do you have FFEs to file yet?  i saw squid, lxd, etc..
[16:13] <smoser> i have to file cloud-init still :-(
[16:13] <jgrimm> ok, that's what i was thinking of too
[16:13] <smoser> squid derailed me. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/squid3/+bug/1547640
[16:14] <jgrimm> totally understand.  I'm very impressed andreas figured out what triggered it
[16:14] <smoser> i uploaded those to wily and trusty proposed. *big* thanks to Paul Gear who pointed out the fix.
[16:14] <jgrimm> \o/
[16:15] <jgrimm> #subtopic Release Bugs
[16:15] <jgrimm> #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-w-tracking-bug-tasks.html#ubuntu-server
[16:16] <jgrimm> as cpaelzer noted.. we need to move to bug smashing mode next
[16:16] <cpaelzer> yeah, the list itself has nothing "new" other to the squid which smoser worked on
[16:17] <cpaelzer> ... in the server list
[16:17] <cpaelzer> there should be some more dpdk issues that I filed, I need to ask rbasak how I need to tag them when triaging
[16:18] <jgrimm> indeed.  and we've put off triaging over the last couple weeks, so that needs to happen by next week imo
[16:18] <jgrimm> #action rbasak (et al) catch up on traige
[16:18] <meetingology> ACTION: rbasak (et al) catch up on traige
[16:18] <jgrimm> since he is out today. :)
[16:18] <jgrimm> moving on..
[16:19] <jgrimm> #topic Server & Cloud Bugs (caribou)
[16:19] <caribou> I'm good, sprinting this week
[16:19] <jgrimm> nice
[16:20] <jgrimm> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (matsubara)
[16:20] <matsubara> amd64 and i386 Xenial server ISO images were last published on the 19th due to a conflict installing libpam-systemd  229-1ubuntu2 and systemd 229-1ubuntu4. ISO image is built from an rsync'ed mirror archive which had some old version which caused the failure. cjwatson explained the issue in #ubuntu-devel and ISO publication should be back to normal in the next ISO build.
[16:20] <matsubara> that's all from me jgrimm
[16:20] <jgrimm> matsubara, thanks!
[16:20] <jgrimm> any questions from others?
[16:21] <jgrimm> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb, sforshee, arges)
[16:21] <smb> Cannot think of anything to report.
[16:21] <jgrimm> smb, ok thanks
[16:22] <jgrimm> #topic Upcoming Call For Papers
[16:23] <jgrimm> #link http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.mm/144414
[16:24] <jgrimm> ^^ annual Linux Storage, Filesystem and Memory Management Summit
[16:24] <jgrimm> that's all i see for a while on the LWN calendar at least
[16:25] <jgrimm> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:25] <jgrimm> #topic Open Discussion
[16:25] <cpaelzer> I'm in the process of consuming the remaining beer from last server team event this week :-P
[16:25] <jgrimm> :)
[16:26] <jgrimm> anyone?
[16:26] <jgrimm> #topic Announce next meeting date, time and chair
[16:27] <jgrimm> 2016-03-01 at 1600 UTC.. nacc remains chair
[16:28] <jgrimm> that's all folks. thanks
[16:28] <jgrimm> #endmeeting
[16:28] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Feb 23 16:28:14 2016 UTC.
[16:28] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2016/ubuntu-meeting.2016-02-23-16.05.moin.txt
[16:28] <kickinz1> tx jgrimm
[16:28] <caribou> thanks jgrimm
[16:28] <cpaelzer> thanks, cu
[16:28] <cpaelzer> \o
[16:28] <serge> \o
[16:29] <jgrimm> \o
[21:41] <alimj> Just to be sure if I am in right place, I am looking for standard operating procedures for appointing a new OP for #ubuntu-ir room (Foundership transfer from freenode-staff to UbuntuIrcCouncil forced by freenode administration)
[21:42] <alimj> The mentioned room is left orphaned and not monitored
[22:32] <sarnold> alimj: try #ubuntu-irc
[22:37] <alimj> sarnold: Yes. Thanks. Got my answer


[00:06] <brobostigon> good night everyone, sleep well.
[11:27] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[14:02] <nullox> ^ lol @ the basic snippet ... surely for the humourz only


[12:26] <gnomefreak> ompaul: i take it you unbanned lol in the past week. i had set that a long time ago and never removed it
[12:27] <ompaul> gnomefreak, yeap, went at the big list that was almost a month old of *@ip
[12:27] <ompaul> after a net split
[12:27] <gnomefreak> yeah i had left it because hes nothing but troble
[12:27] <gnomefreak> trouble
[12:27] <ompaul> I did not see a lol@
[12:27] <gnomefreak> hostmask ban
[12:28] <ompaul> afik I only took out *@FullIPAddress not user@
[12:28] <gnomefreak> i dont think i did a name ban (he wasnt coming in after hostmask ban)
[12:28] <ompaul> host mask is useful it says "special"
[12:29] <ompaul> but you go to more effort to do a name ban :)
[12:30] <gnomefreak> if someone wants to dodge they can easy :(
[12:31] <ompaul> yes
[12:31] <ompaul> but you just increase the cost for them by doing username and so on
[12:31] <gnomefreak> true
[12:31] <ompaul> which is why we have "lart"
[12:31] <gnomefreak> lart only works with xchat
[12:32] <ompaul> gnomefreak, ohh there are other clients ;-)
[12:32] <gnomefreak> :) yep better ones like irssi
[12:32] <gnomefreak> :P
[12:33] <gnomefreak> i hate using mouse
[12:59] <Amaranth> PriceChild: meh, kick them both
[01:33] <ubotu> In ubotu, Frogzoo said: no ubuntu+1 is Ubuntu 7.10 (Gutsy) is the next release of Ubuntu, due October 2007. It's currently alpha. For discussion -> #ubuntu+1
[02:35] <cables> The new !root factoid is just a little bit snarky...
[02:36] <Pumpernickel> !root
[02:36] <ubotu> do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[02:36] <Pumpernickel> whoa
[02:36] <cables> yeah
[02:36] <Pumpernickel> I just saw that movie again today. o_O
[02:37] <TheSheep> doesn't it promote e17 too much? :)
[02:40] <cables> eh, can someone kick me from #ubuntu? I sorta kinda want to ditch this guy, but I want it to not look like I quit :)
[02:45] <lamalex> haha
[05:11] <ubotu> vox754 called the ops in #ubuntu
[05:20] <ubotu> Pelo called the ops in #ubuntu
[05:20] <ubotu> lufis called the ops in #ubuntu
[05:28] <lamalex> win 4
[05:28] <crdlb> lose 4
[05:30] <lamalex> gg
[05:30] <lamalex> ;)
[05:46] <nzk> Can I get unbanned from #ubuntu*
[05:49] <stdin> ask for !staff
[07:43] <Madpilot> is the bot's thing | user pipe busted?
[07:43] <Madpilot> ubotu, bot | Hobbsee
[07:43] <ubotu> Hobbsee: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[07:43] <Madpilot> hmm
[07:43] <Hobbsee> nope?
[07:43] <Hobbsee> i didnt get a query though
[07:44] <Madpilot> the pipe is supposed to be in-channel. Just not sure it's working in #ubuntu right now
[07:45] <Hobbsee> yeah
[07:45] <Hobbsee> i dont know if it's disabled in #ubuntu though
[07:45] <Madpilot> OK, it seems to work some of the time
[07:45] <Madpilot> odd
[08:07] <Hobbsee> !contribute
[08:07] <ubotu> To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[08:13] <Madpilot> [jacktheripper]<EMAIL_ADDRESS>needs a reminder not to curse people out in PM after they've been warned about in-channel behaviour...
[02:28] <ubotu> In ubotu, jonathan_ said: what is ubuntu?
[03:17] <ubotu> stefg called the ops in #ubuntu
[04:44] <ubotu> In ubotu, Frogzoo said: disable_touchpad is To disable the synaptics touchpad while typing, see: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/09/20/disable-touchpad-temporarily-when-typing/
[07:30] <ubotu> thingy called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:31] <elkbuntu> Pici
[07:31] <Pici> elkbuntu
[07:31] <elkbuntu> care to explain so i dont have to read up
[07:32] <GazzaK> it's nothing kickworthy
[07:32] <Pici> PFA was saying that he was promoting using proprietary commerical apps that only ran on windows, I (jokingly) said get out
[07:32] <Pici> then thingy called the ops
[07:32] <Pici> I was waiting for him to get kicked.
[09:40] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, xtknight said: !no, samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.  Here is a newer, unofficial guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComprehensiveSambaGuide
[09:41] <ubotu> In ubotu, xtknight said: !no, samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.  Here is a newer, unofficial guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ComprehensiveSambaGuide
[12:15] <ubotu> Jowi called the ops in #ubuntu
[12:16] <PriceChild> nixternal, ban?
[12:17] <nixternal> ya, to lazy to type quiet+
[12:17] <nixternal> although quiet does the same, just doesn't kick the person
[12:17] <PriceChild> Was just wondering whether he was a repeat offender or something :)
[12:18] <nixternal> he repeated his garbage on more than 2 lines, repeat enough for me :)
[12:18] <nixternal> man, I am having one hell of a time trying to get beryl working on my new machine
[12:18] <nixternal> I know it worked before with the Radeon
[12:19] <PriceChild> what card are you on?
[12:21] <nixternal> radeon 9800
[12:21] <nixternal> I just seen I have to use the radeon driver
[12:21] <nixternal> but the radeon driver doesn't work correctly with my widescreens


[14:42] <xTEMPLARx> bwmaker:  I've always thought about the stuff that article you posted speaks of, but you just never think about it in the full scope of things.
[14:43] <xTEMPLARx> my wife knows my "usual" passwords, but she doesn't know WHERE all I go.  She has no clue about the digital ocean acct I'm using and things like that
[14:44] <xTEMPLARx> thankfully, most things aren't that important, so if i were to disappear tomorrow, most of it just fading away wouldn't really impact much
[14:44] <xTEMPLARx> but, for example, I use google drive as an online backup for important files for us. I need to let her know that.
[14:46] <xTEMPLARx> at the moment its just set up to auto-sync things on my home and work computers (lots and LOTS of our son's baby pictures).   That way, if a house burned or pictures were otherwise damaged, there'd be copies SOMEWHERE.  Once I realized (i.e., admitted to myself) that I had been lucky with my hard drives' health thus far, I quickly jumped on
[14:46] <xTEMPLARx> the storage that google offers to back up the important photos and such.
[14:47] <xTEMPLARx> It's been an interesting thing to know that, all my son's life, 99.9999% of the photos of him are digital, and have never been printed onto paper.  Okay, well, maybe more like 99%
[14:47] <xTEMPLARx> so if that drive had died, it'd be gone
[14:48] <xTEMPLARx> so the backup is there. But, if my wife wasn't AWARE of what the google drive was being used for, when the bank accounts and cards changed after my death, that storage would just go away and all those shots would be lost
[14:56] <bwmaker> It's a lot to think about. You mentioned Digital Ocean, for example. I use it for tinkering, but I'd never really use it for anything serious because she'd have no clue how to even use ssh to get into the server, much less retrieve anything.
[14:57] <bwmaker> I'd have to leave things in a way that she could have a trusted friend of mine assist her with retrieving those things.
[14:58] <bwmaker> On the flip side of that, I have no idea how to access my wife's iCloud account. All her pics of us and the things we do together might as well be gone. Luckily, she does Instagram, so I could like write a script to download them.
[15:06] <xTEMPLARx> downside of instagram is that most of the shots there are cropped/reduced so not as good to have, although better than not having anything, for sure
[15:07] <xTEMPLARx> but you're right. there's a lot of details to take into account.  Leave it to adulthood to take the fun out of all of our gadgetry.
[15:10] <bwmaker> I know, right? The one sobering thing I took away from that is that startup, webapp, smartsphone, encrypt-everything, cloud-storage culture is really too young to have considered death, yet.
[15:11] <xTEMPLARx> bwmaker: so true.  especially to this degree. Even the old-school unix folks still documented everything to a degree that was more old-school and less in-the-cloud.  You'd find more paper documentation of digital things with that crew
[15:11] <xTEMPLARx> but now, its simpler and more tree-friendly to just document everything in the very space that you will have a hard time gaining access to
[15:12] <xTEMPLARx> btw, bwmaker, it's wrst's birthday today
[15:12] <xTEMPLARx> so make sure everybody knows
[15:12] <bwmaker> Happy birthday, wrst!
[15:13] <bwmaker> Ever time I see wrst, I think of a Subaru WRX STI.
[15:13] <bwmaker>  s/Ever/Every
[15:13] <xTEMPLARx> haha
[15:14] <xTEMPLARx> too funny. being in TN, all too often people say "every" like "ever". So reading it just sounded like a country dialect
[15:15] <bwmaker> I definitely have one. :) I'm from here. Grew up out in the country.
[15:15] <bwmaker> I probably say "ever time" and "ever one" and just don't notice it like I do when I'm typing it out. :D
[15:15] <xTEMPLARx> my wife is also from east TN. born, raised, etc.  I moved around all my young life so I didn't come here with a full country accent, but after years of making fun of it, I one day realized I couldn't stop
[15:16] <xTEMPLARx> my wife, though, sounds country as all get out
[15:16] <xTEMPLARx> yes, I said "as all get out"
[15:16] <xTEMPLARx> lol
[15:17] <bwmaker> Ha!
[15:18] <bwmaker> My mom and her family say that a lot.
[15:22] <bwmaker> Also, this came to my attention today. https://www.reddit.com/r/grilledcheese/comments/2or1p3/you_people_make_me_sick/
[15:36] <xTEMPLARx> rofl
[15:36] <xTEMPLARx> i agree with him
[15:36] <xTEMPLARx> i don't want ham in my grilled cheese, OR veggies like you would dress a regular sammich
[15:36] <xTEMPLARx> some things are great just as they are
[15:36] <xTEMPLARx> and a properly-made grilled cheese is one of those things. :D
[17:11] <wrst> hello
[17:24] <bwmaker> Hey wrst. Happy birthday, btw.
[17:25] <Unit193> Seems everyone is wishing that, and it's a nice bandwagon to jump on, sooo..
[17:25] <bwmaker> xTEMPLARx was letting everyone know. :)
[17:25] <Unit193> wrst: Happy nearer to death day!
[17:25] <bwmaker> :(
[17:28] <xTEMPLARx> unit193: rofl
[17:34] <wrst> ha ha Unit193
[17:36] <xTEMPLARx> so what's the damage, wrst?  24?  25?
[17:36] <wrst> 24+13
[17:36] <wrst> :)
[17:36] <xTEMPLARx> i'ma start callin' you pappy.
[18:18] <chris4585> wrst, happy birthday :)
[18:18] <wrst> thanks xTEMPLARx!
[18:18] <wrst> chris4585: good afternoon, and thank you
[18:19] <chris4585> same to you
[20:52] <Unit193> https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/03/msg00016.html
[20:52] <Unit193> cyberanger: -----^
[20:53] <cyberanger> Unit193: nice
[20:53] <cyberanger> and man this channels been active lately :-D
[20:53] <xTEMPLARx> no it hasn't
[20:53] <xTEMPLARx> don't start rumor
[20:53] <xTEMPLARx> rumors
[20:53] <xTEMPLARx> *
[21:07] <Unit193> pisg/ubuntu-us-tn.html seems to think the 24th was busy. :D


[01:37] <VividReality> http://www.indiegogo.com/torque3d-for-linux
[02:45] <ball> I just mounted a disk that used to be the system disk on a Xubuntu box
[02:45] <ball> I see lots of directories but no files.
[02:46] <ball> Oh hang on, there are files on there.
[02:46] <ball> ...just not in the user's home directory
[02:47] <ball> I must have cleared it out before removing the disk.
[02:49] <ball> What would I use to partition a hard disk on Xubuntu?
[03:00] <kgb> the installer, to empty space
[03:01]  * kgb checks his glasses
[03:01] <kgb> ball: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition
[03:02] <kgb> *gparted
[03:02] <Liquidedge> I upgraded to 12.10 and now I can't see the "Network" option in Thunar.
[03:02] <Liquidedge> any ideas why that might be?
[03:02] <grok_> ball, Maybe, the home was mounted in /etc/fstab from another partition or disk?
[03:05] <kgb> Liquidedge: maybe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2076820
[03:06] <Liquidedge> Everything on gvfs is installed in Synaptic.
[03:06] <kgb> hehe looks like he's got a blog http://surffingtoday.blogspot.com/2012/10/ubuntu-forums-xubuntu-1210-upgrade_26.html
[03:07] <kgb> or im just being blind again
[03:07] <ball> kgb: thanks
[03:07]  * kgb hides
[03:10] <ball> grok_: Would it have subdirectories inside it if it were a mountpoint though?
[03:10] <grok_> You can mount something over a non-empty directory, the contents of the directory will be hidden by the mount.
[03:12] <ball> I'm assuming that I backed everything up before pulling the drive.  I'm using dd to write zeroes over the whole thing now.
[03:12] <grok_> Hm, No need to zero it all, just the first 512 MBs.
[03:12] <grok_> ... if your intention is just to reformat.
[03:12] <grok_> sorry, the first 512 bytes.
[03:13] <ball> grok_: I may do.  For now I'm just doing an informal inventory of disks.  I'm zeroing out the ones I might recycle, just in case I never get around to reusing them.
[03:21] <Liquidedge> Just re-installed gvfs and still have the same problem.
[03:34] <ball><PHONE_NUMBER>0 bytes (20 GB) copied, 1308.03 s, 15.3 MB/s
[04:22] <dcope> hello all
[04:22] <dcope> hello all
[04:30] <holstein> dcope: hey.. feel free to /join the offtopic channel for chat.. cheers and welcome
[04:39] <ball> hello dcope
[05:08] <dcope> how does ones install https://github.com/BlueDragonX/xf86-input-mtrack?
[05:08] <dcope> running configure doesn't seem to do much
[05:11] <dcope> nvm
[06:49] <tanek> i wanted to talk to some people about the Alias command, can i do that here or what is the proper channel for that?
[06:59] <Offerlam> Hi all - Have anyone tried to install Xubuntu on a DL380 G5 HP server?
[07:00] <Offerlam> im having major issues with it
[09:57] <aLeSD> hi all
[09:58] <aLeSD> Is there a way to make my xubuntu 12.10 do not ask me for the keyring passwd each time I logon ?
[10:00] <grok_> alesd: http://xubuntu.org/news/faq-1204-precise/ point 7
[10:00] <grok_> Alternatively, when reinstalling, choose "Login automatically" from within the installer wizard.
[10:00] <aLeSD> grok_: it's not the auologin
[10:00] <aLeSD> is after I login... I open the browser
[10:01] <aLeSD> and a window pops up telling me to ensert the password to unlock the keyring
[10:13] <grok_> oh I'm sorry then, I don't know what is a keyring actually.
[10:23] <mahmoud__> I installed XAMPP but I cannot start it
[10:24] <mahmoud__> I unpacked to /opt but I can't find any "start"
[10:29] <bazhang> !xampp | mahmoud__
[10:39] <mahmoud__> so where is the rc.local file?
[10:43] <drupnewb> hi i have xubuntu 12.10 and a custom .Xmodmap in my home dir and it's never read when xfce starts, i need to manually run xmodmap .Xmodmap each time
[10:44] <drupnewb> is this /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc the xfce init script? inside there is a xmodmap command but never is executed
[10:45] <drupnewb> also nothing about xmodmap in .xsession-errors
[10:46] <drupnewb> any other place where i can put it? it doesn't work in .bashrc either
[13:41] <xubuntu071> Does anybosy uses hear Acer timeline series laptop?
[14:05] <xubuntu812> Guys.  I just installed Xubuntu on my netbook and I can
[14:05] <xubuntu812> *cant connect to my wireless network
[14:05] <xubuntu812> It doesn't detect my wifi
[14:06] <xubuntu812> How do i search for broadcom drivers on xubuntu?
[14:07] <xubuntu812> Anyone?
[14:36] <pleia2> xubuntu812: if you open the software center there should be a section for proprietary drivers
[14:36] <pleia2> (not on my 12.10 laptop at the moment, can't check)
[14:42] <dcope> hey al
[14:42] <dcope> all*
[15:57] <dcope> hey all, how can i change my touchpad driver? i've just installed a new one
[16:49] <xubuntu207> After installing one tar.gz file I can't install this type of files anymore.The error codes are E: Unable to locate package lmule-1.3.1 and E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'lmule-1.3.1'.Any help would be appreciated.
[17:37] <kireck211> i cant browse or download anything
[17:37] <kireck211> but it says im connected
[17:37] <kireck211> my router is a dlink
[17:37] <kireck211> somebody can help me
[17:55] <viszu> Hi, how do I disable F1 key in the xfce terminal, so it do nothing instead of opening online help ?
[18:30] <Pol_> Ciao a tutti, è la prima volta che mi connetto a questa chat...posso disturbare qualcuno x un problemino? : )
[18:36] <Pol_> hi guys, it's the first time i try to use this chat room...can i disturb someone of you because of a problem with xubuntu-boot?
[19:03] <mursetkung> fresh install xubuntu 12.04 on a dell latitude 13, whenever I resume after suspend my wireless connects, but although it says so, internet connection is not working. Must rightclick icon and deselect "Enable wireless" and select "Enable wireless" then it works again. Any solution?
[19:13] <tarnek> how do i change the starting root directory name when i first open terminal, also, how do i make a macro picture appear when i first start terminal
[19:15] <mursetkung> exit
[20:25] <nantou> is it easier now to set a proxy for the whole xubuntu system? im with 12.10
[20:27] <kgb> nantou: it can be done, but why not do app-specific
[20:27] <kgb> *just
[20:28] <nantou> to avoid data leakage
[20:35] <nantou> kgb, any tips?
[21:05] <tora_> I have a problem when recording audio output from pulse with Xubuntu. I didn't experience this with Ubuntu 12.04. It is independant of the method I use to record [avcon or sox], and is basically a slowed audio.
[21:09] <tora_> I belive I have a Dell/Intel problematic sound card on my Laptop, but used to work ok before this upgrade.
[21:24] <tarnek>     first, when i start my terminal it comes up with a stupid startup directory, how do i change it to something i want it to say      second, ive seen people load terminals and a macro picture (ascii) pictures appear, how do you do that so when you start your terminal your picture appears  >>
[22:20] <Arhix> im trying to open a file that i have downloaded and need help opening the file from terminal commands
[22:39] <heoyea_> o
[22:48] <ilss> after updating my xubuntu is with a black screen error and it does not leave
[22:50] <ilss> someone?
[23:45] <xubuntu281> Hi, just trying xubuntu on my computer- running from disc- how do I get it off?
[23:45] <heoyea> ?
[23:45] <heoyea> pull plug
[23:50] <Barnabas> xubuntu281, reboot and remove the disc / usb stick or whatever you use


[10:16] <blahdeblah> Hi all, what's the right way to request backports of particular packages to be made available?  I'm looking for dnsmasq 2.81 or better for focal.
[10:16] <blahdeblah> (Alternatively, is there a low-friction way I can prepare my own by uploading the source debs from groovy into a PPA for focal?)
[10:17] <xnox> blahdeblah:  backportpackage tool exists.... it can prepare no change backport & upload it to a ppa
[10:17] <blahdeblah> Thanks xnox - I'll check it out
[11:41] <blahdeblah> xnox: Wow - that was super easy.  I expected it to be an arcane process, at the end of which my builds would be queued behind a bunch of distro rebuilds, but it just worked out of the box, and the builds whizzed through in a flash.  Thanks!
[12:20] <xnox> blahdeblah:  distro rebuilds are prioritised below everything else.
[12:21] <xnox> security/new changeful builds are somewhat in the middle, of the mince.
[15:11] <Laney> rbasak: git-ubuntu question... can I get a patches applied version of a package in the queue? it looks like 'queue sync' only creates an unapplied tag, right?
[15:12] <Laney> I thought that would be a way to review the apparmor upload
[15:12] <rbasak> Laney: unfortunately not, sorry, but I'd like that too
[15:13] <rbasak> You can hack something around gbp pq, but I usually do it manually
[15:13] <rbasak> I expect I'll implement it at some point
[15:15] <Laney> alright, thanks
[15:20] <ahasenack> tjaalton: hi, what do you think about this for sssd:
[15:20] <ahasenack>   Condition: start condition failed at Wed 2020-10-14 15:19:51 UTC; 2s ago
[15:20] <ahasenack>              └─ ConditionFileNotEmpty=/etc/sssd/sssd.conf was not met
[15:20] <ahasenack> I know you said a while back you wouldn't add that to debian
[15:20] <ahasenack> policy and such, service must be able to start right after installation, etc
[15:21] <ahasenack> there is also /etc/sssd/conf.d to look at, but I haven't see packages drop stuff in there yet
[15:23] <tjaalton> ahasenack: I don't know what "this" is? :)
[15:30] <Laney> kanashiro: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/prometheus-alertmanager/0.15.3+ds-3ubuntu1 <- woah, that's quite the timezone!
[15:31] <rbasak> I think git-ubuntu might balk at that :-/
[15:31] <Laney> possible, I just got emailed about it by a script which was trying to parse it
[15:40] <rbasak> I have hit similar issues before in git-ubuntu. We do have a mechanism to deal with it but it needs manual intervention.
[15:40] <rbasak> Long term if it continues happening I intend to see if patching dak and Launchpad to reject these would be acceptable.
[15:41]  * rbasak has also seen work done on the 30th of February and separately at 79 minutes past the hour and that sort of thing :-/
[15:42] <Laney> We imported the whole history of Ubuntu into UDD a few years ago - there's some wild stuff in there, indeed
[15:49] <rbasak> Crazy times
[16:39] <ahasenack> tjaalton: the ConditionFileNotEmpty in the sssd.service
[16:39] <ahasenack> tjaalton: so if there is no config, sssd is not started (and as such does not fail)
[16:56] <tjaalton> ahasenack: I need to think about it
[18:44] <ahasenack> tjaalton: so I troubleshooted https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sssd/+bug/1897153
[18:45] <ahasenack> tjaalton: I believe we can do better, but ultimately it's a configuration problem in his setup
[18:45] <ahasenack> he is relying on a certain fallback behavior
[18:45] <slyon> Hey, could somebody please re-trigger this build? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/netplan.io/0.100-0ubuntu5/+build/20149128 – It failed due to a flaky dbus unit test
[18:49] <ginggs> slyon: .
[18:51] <ahasenack> tjaalton: his /etc/auto.master has a line like: " /mnt/GGData auto.DataVol1 --ghost"
[18:51] <ahasenack> that syntax, when the map file (auto.DataVol1) does not have a path, is explicit for nsswitch.conf lookups
[18:52] <ahasenack> tjaalton: if there is no automount entry in nsswitch.conf, then autofs falls back to assuming the map file is in /etc
[18:54] <slyon> ginggs: thank you!
[18:55] <ginggs> slyon: yw!
[18:56] <ahasenack> so the fix for that case is to use " /mnt/GGData /etc/auto.DataVol1 --ghost"
[19:44] <aleb> Laney: LocutusOfBorg: A new point-release has been cut for Pitivi: 2020.09.1 and it's already packaged in Debian. Any chance you could pick it up before the freeze tomorrow?
[19:56] <LocutusOfBorg> aleb, .
[20:01] <realtime-neil> How do I customize the efibootmgr label of an ubuntu installation?
[21:09] <aleb> LocutusOfBorg: what do you mean?


[11:30] <enyc> Seems that  Ubuntu 20.04 LTS has  a Pidgin set to go to old freenode channel by default ;/
[11:31] <enyc> Can anybody IRC-oriented put in a very basic patch/SRU for that?
[20:30] <sarnold> enyc: yeah, that seems like it'd be worth an sru to me


[01:56] <Semitones> is #ubuntu-beginners exempt from the family friendly policy?
[01:58] <Myrtti> none of the #ubuntu-* channels are, really. Enforcing it though is dependant on the ops
[01:58] <Myrtti> of the said channel
[01:59] <persia> It tends to be time-of-day dependent as well, depending on various ops local cultural interpretation.
[01:59] <Semitones> hmm, ok. I guess either the ops there don't care, or they're not paying attention, but the offending party doesn't seem to be causing that much disruption
[02:00] <Semitones> oh, I guess they do :P
[03:25] <nhandler> @login
[06:06] <vasilis> http://vasilisgreece.blogspot.com/
[06:06] <vasilis> http://vasilisgreece.blogspot.com/
[06:06] <vasilis> jo
[07:22] <dholbach> good morning
[07:48] <elky> ubottu seems to be dropping a lot
[07:50] <persia> Your very response demonstrates that sufficiently without the need for you to be explicit :)
[07:54] <jussi01> elky: a lot of connections seem to be dropping a lot, its kinda curious. Im yet to work out what is causing it, but atm I blame the new ircd :D
[08:09] <knome> hmm, why does ubottu catch the xubuntu chanserv message but not the others?
[08:09] <jussi01> knome: no idea
[08:09] <knome> ;)
[08:09] <jussi01> you guys do weird things down there?
[08:09] <knome> nope.
[08:09] <knome> (really!)
[08:09] <knome> it's the same kind of msg than from any other chan
[08:11] <jussi01> oh, I know,...
[08:11] <jussi01> pick me pick me!!
[08:12] <jussi01> knome: think about the syntax for factoid adding... ;)
[08:12] <knome> hmm !syntax?
[08:12] <Flannel> ubottu: tell knome about yourself
[08:12] <knome> why? :P
[08:13] <Flannel> knome: Doesn't need to be ! if you direct it at ubottu in some way
[08:13] <knome> right.
[08:13] <jussi01> factoi is blah ;)
[08:13] <knome> i'm TOTALLY lost now. :)
[08:13] <jussi01> so the "is"
[08:13] <jussi01> makes it a factoid change request
[08:13] <knome> rrright
[08:14] <Flannel> ![#xubuntu] This channel
[08:14] <Flannel> doesn't exist yet, thankfully.
[08:14] <jussi01> chanserv doesnt have rights :D
[08:14] <Flannel> jussi01: I could just see copy/paste happening though.  I know I've set all sorts of oddball things as factoids in the past.
[08:15] <jussi01> Flannel: yeah, theres some crazy stuff, thats true
[08:15] <knome> so if i say "botname, jussi is crazy", then "!jussi" -> "crazy" ?
[08:16] <persia> ubottu: jussi is crazy
[08:16] <persia> Seems to do.
[08:16] <Flannel> well, it'd be !jussi "jussi is crazy" yes.
[08:16] <jussi01> no
[08:16] <knome> !jussi
[08:16]  * persia isn't trying to define a factoid, actually
[08:17] <knome> why does the bot answer me in private?
[08:17] <jussi01> knome: the response if that factoid went through would be: is crazy
[08:17] <persia> (and hasn't even logged into the bot in > 2 years)
[08:17] <Flannel> s/ "/ -> "/
[08:17] <jussi01> knome: minimises in channel traffic
[08:17] <Flannel> jussi01: except it wouldn't, it'd be "jussi is crazy" because there's no <reply>
[08:17] <persia> But the point is that the syntax checker catches it.
[08:17] <Flannel> of course, this is above the scope of conversation :)
[08:17] <persia> So:
[08:18] <persia> ubottu: This channel is logged
[08:18] <persia> Whereas:
[08:18] <persia> ubottu: Logs for this channel may be found at
[08:19] <knome> logged into the bot? should i be logged in to add factoids? :P
[08:20] <persia> At one point.  No idea if that is true for current code.
[08:22] <knome> jussi01, ?
[08:22] <jussi01> yes
[08:22] <jussi01> @login
[08:22] <knome> can anybody login?
[08:23] <jussi01> only if you have been given privelidges
[08:23] <knome> have i?
[08:23] <jussi01> no idea...
[08:23] <knome> haha. :)
[08:23] <jussi01> try it
[08:23] <jussi01> :D
[08:23] <knome> @login
[08:23] <jussi01> honestly I havent looked recently
[08:23] <jussi01> knome: you dont.
[08:24] <knome> okay. how can i?
[08:24] <persia> @login
[08:24] <persia> Cool.  My privleges have been dropped (which is fine, I don't need them anymore)
[08:24] <jussi01> we are planning to fix it so core ops will have privelidges.
[08:24] <jussi01> but core ops dont yet exist
[08:24] <jussi01> so untill that happens, its a bit in limbo.
[08:25] <jussi01> persia: I dont think you ever had them on this bot, no?
[08:25] <persia> jussi01: I was able to log in to "ubottu" in 2007.  I honestly haven't tried since.  I have no idea if it's the same bot.  Like I said, I don't need to log in.
[08:26] <jussi01> lots of things have happened since then :D
[08:26] <persia> Indeed :)
[08:26] <jussi01> I do remember we dropped a big chunk when we re-did all the auth stuff
[08:26] <persia> That's probably when I fell out.
[08:26] <jussi01> and cripes, has she been around that long?
[08:26] <persia> But since I stopped being active in #ubuntu back in Dapper or so, it really doesn't matter :)
[08:31] <Flannel> Anyone know anything about "Dancing-Bot"?
[08:31] <jussi01> no...
[08:31] <jussi01> where?
[08:31] <Flannel> #u
[08:33] <jussi01> I PM'ed.
[08:35] <Flannel> Theres three
[08:35] <Flannel> er
[08:36] <Flannel> Theres two *possible* hits in the BT (same ISP)
[08:37] <Flannel> but nothing really bad happened in those either.
[08:37] <jussi01> if it isnt making any trouble, lets leave it
[13:06] <bazhang> fasta seems to be trolling
[13:28] <jpds> Did comcast just fail?
[13:29] <Pici> neat
[13:29] <bazhang> one can only speculate at this point
[13:30] <jpds> And again.
[14:53] <Myrtti> marcus_: hi
[14:53] <marcus_> hi
[14:54] <Myrtti> whazzup?
[14:55] <marcus_> nothing special. just wondered if there is a special channel for ubuntu admin/server related tasks as the regular #ubuntu is quite crowded.
[14:55] <Myrtti> ah, that would be #ubuntu-server probably
[14:56] <Myrtti> although #ubuntu can answer your questions too
[14:56] <marcus_> okay, thanks for the info
[14:56] <marcus_> asked there. they pointed me here.
[14:56] <Pici> really? /me scrolls up
[14:57] <Pici> Oh, I think it was a misunderstanding. I think he tought you were looking for the people who admin the irc channels.
[15:02] <marcus_> ah, okay.
[15:02] <marcus_> np. heading over to -server
[15:37] <Myrtti> humdidumdidum
[16:09] <Myrtti> hm, are the webchat users just let in now without the proxy check?
[16:11] <Myrtti> my backlog doesn't have any exceptions set
[16:12] <Myrtti> ah, it uses invitations now
[16:12] <Myrtti> that's handy
[17:28] <genii> Whoa. why didn't floodbots kick in?
[17:29] <Pici> they claimed they were in emergency mode /me looks
[17:49] <jussi01> yes, I know and Im doing something about it.
[17:59] <persia> jussi01: If/when you have time, are there any reasons to permit two-word factoids?  Both of these messages would go away if they were not permitted.
[17:59] <Pici> !es | persia
[18:00] <Pici> persia: Anyway, ubottu was getting triggered because the sentence had 'is' in it. "this channel" is "something"
[18:00] <SealedWithAKiss> ikonia, I'm sorry. I deserved to be kicked.
[18:00] <persia> I know.
[18:00] <ikonia> I know you did
[18:00] <ikonia> that's why you where removed from the channel
[18:00] <jussi01> !-ops | persia
[18:00] <ikonia> I'm not sure what you're playing at - but can you please control yourself in the #ubuntu channels
[18:00] <SealedWithAKiss> ikonia, but seriously. I screwed up twice there. It was worth being kicked.
[18:01] <persia> jussi01: Ah, I see :(
[18:01] <ikonia> SealedWithAKiss: please talk to staff in #freenode and stop discussing it in #ubuntu
[18:02] <SealedWithAKiss> ikonia, oh I'm back again. Okay then I'm done now.
[18:02] <ikonia> SealedWithAKiss: once you have resolved you're password issues out and you're confident you can control your language, you're welcome to re-join #ubuntu
[18:02] <SealedWithAKiss> ikonia, okay then thanks.
[18:03] <ikonia> SealedWithAKiss: ok, then if there is nothing else needed from the operator team, please leave this channel and rejoin #ubuntu when you are ready
[18:06] <jpds> Nice.
[18:06] <jussi01> she is on her way back
[18:11] <jussi01> argh. Im real sorry, Ill probably have to restart the bot one more time. let me play a little and make sure its only one more time.
[18:12] <jussi01> or maybe not. lets see.
[18:12] <persia> So, I checked the factoids : http://paste.ubuntu.com/396290/ are my results.  There are 8 items that have spaces that don't have nospace equivalents with the same spelling.  None are unique factoids.
[18:13] <persia> (and ありがとう is better transliterated as arigatou)
[18:15] <jussi01> persia: please put all the info youve found into a bug.
[18:15] <persia> jussi01: This is something worth fixing then?
[18:16] <jussi01> persia: why not. I cant currently see any usecase for 2 word factoids.
[18:16] <persia> That's what I was looking for :)  Filing a bug.
[18:16] <jussi01> it would also stop these people who talk to ubottu's conversations from coming here...
[18:17] <Pici> persia: I'm sorry, I misread your original question. I thought you said two *letter* factoids.
[18:17] <persia> Pici: Ah.  'es' makes lots more sense in that context.  I wondered what you were demonstrating.
[18:19] <jussi01> that should be the final one for today, my apologies for the spam.
[18:24] <persia> ubottu: Tell everyone about bug #539757, and complain about your inadequacy.
[18:24] <genii> Hehe
[18:27] <jussi01> o/
[18:27] <jussi01> SO, theres a super shiny new feature on ubottu.
[18:27] <jussi01> Please report bugs if something is borked or there is a regression.
[18:28] <jussi01> (or you just dont like it)
[18:28] <jussi01> it looks like this: [20:28:14] <ubottu:ubottu> Please comment on the ban of<EMAIL_ADDRESS>in ##jussi01, use: @comment 24030 <comment>
[18:28] <jussi01> Our lovely friend will now nag you for a comment after a ban or removal.
[18:30] <mneptok> why #jussi01 and not this channel?
[18:31] <jussi01> Now there is one thing we are still thinking about: currently it nags on removals and bans/quiets. We are thinking about removing the the nag for removals, thoughts on this are welcome.
[18:31] <Pici> mneptok: I think its "please comment on the ban of IP in #thechannel"
[18:31] <jussi01> mneptok: that was a test example.
[18:31] <jussi01> persia: is correct.
[18:31] <genii> No one should ever really be banned from -ops I don't think, anyhow. Unless k-lined....
[18:31] <jussi01> Pici: evem
[18:32] <Myrtti> oh god I hate that feature already
[18:33] <Myrtti> so now the removal message won't suffice for a comment?
[18:34] <jussi01> Myrtti: yes of course it will. if you use a removal message, then just dont answer the bot. Unless you want to add more info.
[18:37] <Myrtti> right.
[18:37] <Pici> Myrtti: I'd file a bug
[18:40] <jussi01> Hiya Jordan_U
[18:41] <jussi01> whats up?
[18:41] <Jordan_U> jussi01: Hi, just noticing a lot of people coming into #ubuntu speaking spanish.
[18:42] <Jordan_U> I wasn't going to say anything unless sanreikaj persisted also.
[19:00] <Pici> Um. What?
[19:01] <genii> !info ifupdown
[19:02] <Pici> I know what ifupdown is, but what does that have to do with file downloads on a web interface?
[19:03] <genii> Pici: I didn't know about ifupdown, just checking !info on it, shoulda done it in pm with bot :)
[19:03] <persia> Might be a u1 thing, based on the requestor.
[19:03] <persia> Maybe ask in #ubuntu-one ?
[20:58] <ikonia> peepers open please in #ubunu DeaemonFC is in
[20:58] <ikonia> hopefully he'll get on just fine
[23:03] <elky> so, um, pingfloyd discovered memoserv
[23:04] <elky> He left me a memo instructing the #ubuntu entity to somehow copulate with itself.
[23:11] <mneptok> elky: he's a charming fellow.
[23:12] <rww> Hola. I'm probably missing something here, but how come webchat users can speak in #ubuntu if there's a banforward on their hostmask and the floodbots aren't setting exempts any more? Do banforwards not stop people from talking if they're in the channel? (iirc, bans do, right?)
[23:13] <rww> (I would have asked in #freenode, but I figure #ubuntu is a complex setup so the people in charge of it would probably know better :)
[23:15] <Myrtti> I tested it earlier today and the floodbots invite the users in
[23:16] <Myrtti> I don't know if that answers your question properly
[23:17] <elky> oh goodie, we're trialling a fix for the banlist leakage?
[23:18]  * elky goes to check the mailing list
[23:18] <rww> Myrtti: I noticed that. I'm not seeing how the invite overrides the +b, though
[23:18] <rww> presumably because I'm missing something. As far as I can tell, if you invite someone who's banned from a channel to that channel, they don't get in, and can't speak if they are in.
[23:19] <rww> but in #ubuntu, that doesn't happen =/
[23:19] <Myrtti> which is why I said I don't know if that answers your question :-/
[23:22] <rww> the /topic in #ubuntu-proxy-users is cut off, btw
[23:50] <rww> alright, I have to go to work, so I'll /part to avoid idling. If anyone figures out the answer to my question, please feel free to PM me :)


[21:32] <OvenWerks> Just so people know... my studio has been flooded out so everything is put away for a few months.