[15:07] <andax> huh? how have i removed the menu bar in gnome-terminal?
[15:07] <bazhang> markmuetz: there is a channel for that
[15:08] <unop> markmuetz, head to #ubuntu+1 please
[15:08] <markmuetz> cool, cheers
[15:08] <mad_max02> can I transfer files to another computer over network with ubuntu live dvd ??
[15:08] <unop> mad_max02, sure
[15:08] <pajamian> mad_max02: yes
[15:08] <DaveTarmac> I'm looking for a piece of web development software, preferably for GNOME rather than KDE - but I'm not that picky. the only thing I really would want is the function to work on a remote system. Anyone got any recommendations for me?
[15:08] <pajamian> mad_max02: in fact, I just did that a couple nights ago to backup my son's computer before re-installing ubuntu on it.
[15:08] <mad_max02> What do I need for that ?? just boot live dvd ???
[15:09] <pajamian> mad_max02: live CD, yes
[15:09] <maek> andax right click the terminal and check show menu bar
[15:09] <fluteflute> DaveTarmac: what kind of software?
[15:09] <cwraig> DaveTarmac, i used to use gphpedit or kate
[15:09] <crunchybumble> does the new live cd have testdisk on it?
[15:09] <DOOM_NX> hikejinx, i found the problem... i had to use OSS output plugin
[15:09] <pajamian> DaveTarmac: I work on remote systems all the time just with ssh.  What are your requirements?
[15:09] <DOOM_NX> but i need ALSA cause i have configured alsa tables :/
[15:09] <miguel_c> hi there! im running xubuntu and i run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. I set up the keyboard layout to pt and variant to pt. everything is working but.. i cant make the euro symbol, and all the symbols that depends on alt Gr key
[15:09] <mad_max02> okay thanks
[15:10] <miguel_c> not even with the ctrl+alt combo..
[15:10] <andax> maek: thanks :)
[15:10] <pajamian> !xubuntu | miguel_c
[15:10] <ubotu> miguel_c: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels
[15:10] <brandon__> Anyone happen to know how to check your video ram in ubuntu?  Just curious as to what the OS is detecting for me.
[15:11] <DaveTarmac> pajamian: I want to be able to, like you can in Dreamweaver, connect to a remote system and edit PHP directly on the server rather then using a seperate FTP to send them ot the server
[15:11] <hikejinx> DOOM_NX: Great!
[15:11] <cwraig> i think you can do that with kate
[15:11] <pajamian> DaveTarmac: I just log into the server with ssh and use my favorite console-based text editor (in my case emacs).
[15:12] <brandon__> Anyone happen to know how to check your video ram in ubuntu?  Just curious as to what the OS is detecting for me.
[15:12] <pajamian> DaveTarmac: it's more a case of what's available on the remote server than what you have on your computer.
[15:12] <DaveTarmac> pajamian: I'm afraid I'm a wuss and prefer something a little more GUI like. It's my one downfall ;)
[15:12] <Viden> Does anyone know of a good exchange server monitor addon for nagios ?
[15:13] <pajamian> DaveTarmac: you can use a remote X connection via ssh as well, just as long as the remote server supports it.  If you log in via ssh and try to use gedit you'll find out if that is supported.
[15:13] <miguel_c> im using xubuntu why can't i use the alt gr combination symbol?
[15:13] <BSG75> is there a way to get rid of all panels in gnome?
[15:13] <DaveTarmac> pajamian: for instance, I use Dreamweaver (on mac sadly) which connects to remote servers using S/FTP
[15:13] <cwraig> DaveTarmac, if you install the kate editor you should just be able to dump an ftp address into the open file window & it will connect
[15:13] <miguel_c> not even the ctrl+alt+f2 or f1
[15:13] <DaveTarmac> cwraig: OK, cheers - I'll give that a try tonight
[15:13] <amenado> DaveTarmac-> fish:///  orotocol on konqueror
[15:14] <pajamian> DaveTarmac: that said, I would recommend that you get to know console based programs for workign on remote servers.  They are much faster because the remote server doesn't have to send graphics over the internet and once you get used to it you'll find you like it better.
[15:14] <maek> BSG75, why would you wan't to do that ??
[15:14] <kraut> hi
[15:14] <brandon__> Anyone happen to know how to check your video ram in ubuntu?  Just curious as to what the OS is detecting for me.
[15:14] <bazhang> hi kraut
[15:14] <kraut> which kernel do i need on ubuntu/dapper to boot a galaxy 4200 with lsi-controller?
[15:14] <BSG75> maek: I am setting up a profile for my 7 year old daughter .. she only needs access to the icon on the desktop
[15:14] <sipior> brandon__: asking over and over is not likely to get your question answered more quickly.
[15:14] <pajamian> miguel_c: please go to #xubuntu for xubuntu support.
[15:15] <kraut> i thought, the galaxies are certified under dapper by ubuntu, but the server won't boot, because it cant find any boot device
[15:15] <BSG75> my only other option will be to install fluxbox or enlightenment
[15:15] <jaffarkelshac> doees anyone know the cad program nx by ugs, is there a version for ubuntu
[15:15] <maek> use the config manager that came with your graphics card drivers brandon_
[15:15] <amenado> Brandon_-> dont know if  xdpyinfo have that info or xwininfo
[15:15] <cwraig> pajamian, unless the server is yours tho you dont get ssh access
[15:15] <maek> BSG75, Just use a blank gnome panel
[15:15] <DaveTarmac> currently, I use BlueFish for it, but that requires a separate FTP program (i believe - if not I haven't found that function yet)
[15:15] <maek> maybe with some launchers for your daughter
[15:16] <pajamian> cwraig: not for a cheap web account, true.  There are many hosting accounts that you can get with shell access, though.
[15:16] <cwraig> ive got a large number of sites on reseller hosting & they dont give me ssh access only FTP
[15:16] <Adantan_Alex> ok
[15:16] <BSG75> maek: yeah I could do that .. I wish gnome was a bit more customizable .. i am sure there is a good reason why you can't get rid of all panels ..
[15:16] <Adantan_Alex> ok i cant get the root pass word for my computer....
[15:16] <pajamian> you can't?  I never tried to get rid of the last panel in gnome.
[15:17] <pajamian> !root | Adantan_Alex
[15:17] <ubotu> Adantan_Alex: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[15:17] <maek> and make the panel nice and big so your daughter can easily see it
[15:17] <Adantan_Alex> thanks
[15:17] <LollinopiL> everytime I close an ODT document, i ear a sound from the CPU ( sounds like the allarm's sound, not the common sound!!) ... how can I stop it ?
[15:17] <bazhang> if you do delete all the panels then remember the !resetpanels factoid it might come in handy ;]
[15:17] <maek> what is the application she is allowed to use BSG75 ??
[15:18] <BSG75> firefox, gimp and her music software to sync her ipod (I think it will be amarok)
[15:19] <BSG75> maek: I already have tinyproxy running to only give access to the sites she's allowed to go play on
[15:19] <i2c4u> hi, is it alright to talk about  hardy here?
[15:19] <pajamian> !hardy | i2c4u
[15:19] <ubotu> i2c4u: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[15:19] <bazhang> there is a channel for that i2c4u #ubuntu+1
[15:19] <genii> i2c4u: Better in #ubuntu
[15:19] <genii> i2c4u: Better in #ubuntu+1 rather
[15:19] <i2c4u> ok thanks
[15:19] <BSG75> maek: and will setup a instant message server tonight so her friends and can logon and chat .. so she feels all grown up .. but everything is within limits .. of course
[15:19] <bazhang> #+1
[15:20] <maek> perfect Just put some launchers to those apps you mentioned BSG75 and maybe a window selector in the panel
[15:20] <white_eagle> I accidentaly clicked Ctrl-Left Alt-F12 and a black screen with a typing line ( you know what I mean ) showed up, when I tried to type something it didn't respond so I did a hard reboot
[15:20] <white_eagle> what is that shortcut used for??
[15:20] <pajamian> BSG75: maybe you should put edubuntu on it for het.
[15:20] <pajamian> *her
[15:21] <Exteris> white_eagle, virtual terminals. you can return with ctrl-alt-7
[15:21] <BSG75> pajamian: great idea .. I didn't even think of that
[15:21] <LeGreffi3R> white_eagle> Exteris 's right
[15:21] <white_eagle> Exteris: I ctrl-alt-f7? or ctrl-alt-7
[15:21] <rambo3> what program do i use to convert bin/cue to iso on 64 bit
[15:21] <white_eagle> because ctrl-alt-f7 didn't get me back
[15:21] <maek> BSG75, the only problem I see is that if your daughter gets adventurous and goes adding stuff to the panel
[15:22] <sipior> white_eagle: just Alt-F7
[15:22] <BSG75> do you guys know of any script/app that already exists where mommy can set the time limit and it log her off after such time?
[15:22] <white_eagle> oh thanks
[15:22] <LeGreffi3R> white_eagle> Ctrl+Alt+F7 or Alt+F7
[15:22] <LeGreffi3R> white_eagle> avoid hard reboot
[15:22] <white_eagle> ok
[15:22] <BSG75> maek: LOL now you got it my friend .. she's just like her daddy .. give her something and she'll figure out a way around it :)
[15:22] <maek> you will have to make sure that the panel is locked down BSG75
[15:22] <cwraig> white_eagle, how do you accidently press that many keys at once hahahhaha
[15:22] <white_eagle> doesn't ctrl-alt-f1 open a terminal?
[15:22] <LeGreffi3R> white_eagle> if this is hard deadlocked, try a Shift+Alt+Print+b
[15:22] <BSG75> and I am soo proud that she can do that .. also grey hairs :)
[15:23] <LeGreffi3R> white_eagle> it does
[15:23] <white_eagle> cwraig: I was trying to press ctrl-alt-f11
[15:23] <white_eagle> for an effect
[15:23] <BSG75> thanks guys .. I will see what I come up with ..
[15:23] <cwraig> lol
[15:23] <white_eagle> I mena
[15:23] <white_eagle> mean
[15:23] <white_eagle> alt-f11
[15:24] <maek> hhrrmmm thats a problem then BSG75 ... lol
[15:24] <LeGreffi3R> BSG75> get a "sleep time && logout" in her Xsession :)
[15:24] <pajamian> BSG75: I don't know, I would say you can put a line like: at now + 2 hours shutdown -h now + 5 minutes
[15:24] <maek> oh yeah LeGreffi3R you can have forced breaks
[15:24] <pajamian> heh, oh well
[15:25] <[chr0n0s]> hi, i used mkfs on my home partition by mistake, is there any way to recover the data/
[15:25] <LeGreffi3R> pajamian> this will ask for sudo...
[15:25] <pajamian> LeGreffi3R: I was goinng to suggest he put it in his rc.local
[15:25] <sipior> [chr0n0s]: unfortunately, no
[15:26] <sipior> not reliably, at any rate
[15:26] <DragonLotus> hey all, I'm trying to install the debian menu in gutsy.  I used Synaptic to get menu and menu-xdg.  I used dpkg-reconfigure on both.  I restarted my x-server... still not listed in applications.  Any ideas?
[15:26] <LeGreffi3R> pajamian> i think he just want this on a session, not for the whole computer.
[15:27] <sipior> DragonLotus: have you tried looking via the menu-editor? you may have to enable its display there.
[15:27] <christoz> every time i'm downloading packages from the repositories,after fetching the package,and before installing it i have this error message twice...why is that>
[15:27] <christoz>  Failed to open device
 X Err
[15:27] <christoz> oops sorry
[15:27] <LeGreffi3R> [chr0n0s]> did you write there since?
[15:27] <DragonLotus> sipior: that's where I am right now, but I don't even know what I'm looking for using the menu-editor
[15:28] <Bonez> Hi, can someone pls help me with my apt-get problem - details here http://pastebin.com/m18243a86 - thank you
[15:28] <sipior> DragonLotus: there should be a debian entry somewhere, which you can then enable
[15:28] <LeGreffi3R> DragonLotus> if you want a debian menu, why don't you use a debian?
[15:28] <pajamian> LeGreffi3R: well then it should be possible to put it in a shell script and he can run it manually, he could give it special sudo privs for that script so it doesn't require a password if he wants, but it's a mute point because he's gone now anyways.
[15:28] <sipior> LeGreffi3R: courtesy, sir
[15:28] <Exteris> Bonez, apt-get -f install first ?
[15:29] <DOOM_NX> is OSS worse than ALSA? and why?
[15:29] <LeGreffi3R> sipior> have I been gross?
[15:29] <LeGreffi3R> didn't mean it :/
[15:29] <bazhang> wow this the second such error in two days
[15:29] <Bonez> Exteris: it does nothing... gives same error
[15:29] <tortus> I just got from work an turned my pc on and my mouse stopped working. The Mouse is fine, works on other computers. Other mice on this computer dont work either
[15:29] <tortus> dmesg shows no interesting output
[15:29] <Exteris> tortus, perhaps the port is fried
[15:29] <LeGreffi3R> pajamian> :)
[15:29] <pajamian> tortus: mouse port gone bad?  try a USB mouse.
[15:29] <christoz> every time i'm downloading packages from the repositories,after fetching the package,and before installing it i have this error message twice...http://www.pastebin.ca/976906 why is that
[15:30] <tortus> Its an USB Mouse
[15:30] <DragonLotus> sipior: xfce-menueditor open and nothing showing debian menus or any odd entries anywhere
[15:30] <tortus> Wait a sec, ill try ps2
[15:30] <PookAir> `
[15:30] <pajamian> tortus: try booting to the live CD and see if it works in that.
[15:31] <bazhang> Bonez: did you run a script to install drivers/codecs recently
[15:31] <[chr0n0s]> LeGreffi3R, nope no disk activity
[15:32] <tortus> ps2 wont work, ill go for the livecd-idea
[15:32] <pajamian> tortus: also when plugging/ unplugging a ps2 mouse make sure the computer is turned off (not needed with USB) or you might just fry the port.
[15:32] <sipior> [chr0n0s]: well, outside of writing the filesystem... ;-)
[15:32] <LeGreffi3R> [chr0n0s]> then there is still hope... I don't know how to do this though...
[15:33] <nagyv> could someone help me with a weird python problem? I described it here: http://rafb.net/p/FUgMYu34.html
[15:33] <khaled10> hello to all
[15:33] <timo> hi...................
[15:33] <Tex-Twil> Do you know why a "sftp://" trasnfer via Konquror or Krusader is MUCH slower (300 KB/s) than a command line "scp" trasnfer (5MB/s) ?
[15:34] <khaled10> what are the bisic configration for the network for all linux dis
[15:34] <LeGreffi3R> [chr0n0s]> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=418899
[15:35] <DragonLotus> sipior: thanks for the attemp, though.
[15:36] <sipior> DragonLotus: yep, hope you get it sorted out
[15:36] <bazhang> khaled10: that is a somewhat open-ended question; do you have a ubuntu support question or just curious about networking
[15:36] <Tv> anyone else have firefox-3 trouble in hardy?
[15:36] <PookAir> Hi, I wanted to know how can i see ntfs files on my ubuntu, I have one partion ext3 anf the other one ntfs.... thanks alot
[15:36] <bazhang> Tv: best ask in the hardy channel
[15:36] <timo> TV: nothing here, every thing works
[15:36] <pajamian> !ntfs | PookAir
[15:36] <ubotu> PookAir: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[15:36] <spasticteapot> Does anyone know how to check which version of Java I have installed?
[15:37] <timo> tv: oops in using feisty!
[15:37] <Tv> bazhang: hardy channel? is that #ubuntu-hardy
[15:37] <MrBumblebee> go to java.com and do the java check, it'll tell you
[15:37] <bazhang> Tv: #ubuntu+1
[15:37] <spasticteapot> I need JRE5 for BlueJ, and I don't know if it's installed or not.
[15:37] <pajamian> Tv: #ubuntu+1
[15:37] <Tv> bazhang: thanks
[15:37] <bazhang> np ;]
[15:37] <spasticteapot> MrBumblebee: I need the Java 5 compiler.
[15:37] <PookAir> ubotu, last time i installed ubuntu i didn't have to do anything
[15:38] <timo> pookair, have you mount it /
[15:38] <bazhang> PookAir: you want to read and write as well? ntfs-3g will do that
[15:38] <spasticteapot> I have a file called jdk-1_5_0_15-nb-6_0_1-linux-ml.sh
[15:38] <pajamian> spasticteapot: java -version
[15:38] <spasticteapot> How do I install it?
[15:38] <spasticteapot> pajamian: Thanks.
[15:39] <Smegzor> I want to change my gnome wallpaper from command line.  What do I type or what command do I need?
[15:39] <spasticteapot> pajamian: That just tells me my runtime environment.
[15:39] <timo> $ ./ jdk**
[15:39] <pajamian> spasticteapot: hrmmmmm, probably jdk -version, then
[15:40] <pajamian> ...or something like that
[15:40] <spasticteapot> pajamian: Command not found.
[15:40] <spasticteapot> How do I install a .sh file?
[15:40] <timo> like this ./
[15:40] <pajamian> spasticteapot: usually you run it
[15:40] <sipior> spasticteapot: java -version doesn't return a string like "java version 1.5.0_13"?
[15:40] <pajamian> spasticteapot: but you'll be better off installign it from a package
[15:41] <spasticteapot> sipior: It gives me the Java SE runtime environment.
[15:41] <pajamian> spasticteapot: I recommend: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[15:41] <timo> spatic try this ./ jdk-1_5_0_15-nb-6_0_1-linux-ml.sh
[15:41] <spasticteapot> Ah...it's chmod 777
[15:42] <vinconzo> hi
[15:42] <timo> hi
[15:42] <sipior> spasticteapot: simpler just to install the jdk through the package manager. especially when it comes time to upgrade...
[15:42] <pajamian> spasticteapot: it's nearly always better to install an ubuntu package than to download from a website and install yourself
[15:42] <spasticteapot> sipior: Huh.
[15:42] <spasticteapot> That...makes quite good sense, actually.
[15:43] <pajamian> spasticteapot: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk
[15:43] <fresh_dumbledore> hey yo hey yo!
[15:43] <spasticteapot> I must have been searching wrong.
[15:43] <pajamian> spasticteapot: there's also a package for java6 if you'd prefer.
[15:43] <chenzhentuo> ʔ
[15:43] <spasticteapot> pajamian: No good. It won't work with my assignments.
[15:43] <spasticteapot> (Goodness knows why.)
[15:43] <pajamian> spasticteapot: ok, then there is java5, which is what I just told you.
[15:44] <spasticteapot> fresh_dumbledore: Watched that "Harry Potter in the Hood" video a few times too many?
[15:44] <pajamian> spasticteapot: make sure you have multiverse enabled.
[15:44] <rjm> hi - how do i get color highlighintg in vim?  i tried creating a .vimrc with 'syntax=on'
[15:44] <spasticteapot> pajamian: I have it installing.
[15:44] <spasticteapot> Thanks.
[15:44] <rjm> but didn't work
[15:44] <pajamian> spasticteapot: ok, cool
[15:45] <sipior> rjm: just "syntax on"
[15:45] <bazhang> who will support the new wubi?
[15:45] <rjm> yeh i tried syntax on too
[15:45] <KeithWeisshar> http://<IP_ADDRESS>:3680/
[15:45] <bazhang> KeithWeisshar: what is that?
[15:45] <sipior> rjm: and if you try ":set syntax on" in vim, does it give an error?
[15:45] <genii> bazhang: Apparently all of us
[15:45] <evand> bazhang: Ubuntu will, much in the same way it supports other installation methods.
[15:45] <fresh_dumbledore> spasticteapot: not really
[15:46] <bazhang> evand thanks--will try it later today
[15:46] <bazhang> genii: most of us ;]
[15:46] <KeithWeisshar> it's getright pro web access
[15:46] <Exteris> rjm set syntax on ?
[15:46] <LeGreffi3R> rjm> the default vim on ubuntu is a light version
[15:46] <evand> bazhang: best of luck.  If you run into any trouble please either file a bug (preferrable) or start a thread on the wubi forum on ubuntuforums so we can track the issue.
[15:46] <Creationist> Okay, this is really starting to infuritate me.  For that past couple of months, Firefox just plain stops working at random times.  It no longer loads pages (just sits on "Loading..." indefinitely).  Sometimes after an hour of browsing, others just after visiting certain intense sites.  Restarting Firefox will temporarily solve the issue, but it just keeps repeating.  How can I track down the cause of this?
[15:46] <evand> bazhang: http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug for the former
[15:46] <rjm> how do i upgrade to the full version?
[15:47] <LeGreffi3R> rjm> install vim-full
[15:47] <rjm> cool thanks
[15:47] <LeGreffi3R> (logical) :D
[15:47] <bazhang> evand: I think there is a problem with the !wubi factoid; the wubi.org seems to lead to someone's blog
[15:47] <pajamian> Creationist: how much RAM do you have?
[15:47] <AngryBacon> I can,t get my 8800gt to work  w/nvidia drivers, everything i try results in signal loss and the error (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[15:47] <Creationist> pajamian: 1gb
[15:47] <bazhang> thanks evand will bookmark
[15:47]  * rjm awaits vim
[15:48] <pajamian> Creationist: tht's plenty, but the symptoms you describe sound like what happens when FF runs out of RAM.
[15:48] <AngryBacon> !wubi
[15:48] <ubotu> wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it will be included in hardy 8.04 currently in beta)
[15:48] <evand> looks ok to me
[15:48] <pajamian> Creationist: you may want to try the FF3 beta, it might work better for you.
[15:48] <erUSUL> AngryBacon: what drivers are you using??
[15:48] <marx2k> Any suggestions for a Linux compatible MP3 player that comes in 80+ gigs that is NOT an iPod?
[15:48] <Creationist> pajamian: I figured that, but that's not the cause.  ANd FF3 is terrible for my system... way too buggy (and none of my necessary extentions work for it yet)
 hard to understand how they do to put a complete Ooo, and an uncomplete vim</troll>
[15:49] <AngryBacon> erUSUL, i've tried 169.12 & 171.06
[15:49] <sipior> LeGreffi3R: agreed!
[15:49] <bazhang> evand: which one? the wubi looks like it is in Chinese; not clear where users should go on that page
[15:49] <pajamian> Creationist: ok, I understand, well, I would say you might possibly have a RAM problem, did you try running memtest for a couple passes?
[15:49] <LeGreffi3R> marx2k> nearly all (no-sony, no-creative) player will work as a hard drive
[15:49] <Creationist> marx2k: You won't find a single MP3 player out there that claims itself to be "Linux compatible," but you can install Rockbox on nearly any player (including iPod) which supports Linux fantastically.
[15:49] <LeGreffi3R> marx2k> i'd say any :)
[15:50] <evand> !wubi is wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it will be included in hardy 8.04 currently in beta)
[15:50] <marx2k> Hmmmm
[15:50] <evand> whoops
[15:50] <Creationist> pajamian: Haven't yet... but I guess that would explain why my entire system seems to grind to a halt at times, huh? ;)
[15:50] <LeGreffi3R> Rockbox is juste awesome :)
[15:50] <Creationist> pajamian: Although, that only happens in LInux, not Windows... so it shouldn't be a RAM issue.
[15:50] <pajamian> Creationist: it could, bad RAM can do all sorts of weird things.
[15:50] <evand> !wubi is wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it will be included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)
[15:50] <evand> argh
[15:50] <evand> !wubi is wubi advice here: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=234  and  http://wubi.org  [file wubi bugs here:  https://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug ] (it is included in hardy 8.04 beta CD and will be in the final release)
[15:51] <LjL> evand, use PM please
[15:51] <LjL> !pmthebot > evand    (evand, see the private message from Ubotu)
[15:51] <pajamian> Creationist: Linux is more sensitive to RAM problems than windows.  That's because it makes much better usage of all your available RAM.
[15:51] <AngryBacon> rockbox lacks video support tho
[15:51] <Creationist> marx2k: As far as the 80gb goes, I think only Apple caters to the "compensatory" crowd ;)
[15:51] <evand> LjL: indeed, sorry about that
[15:51] <marx2k> Creationist: excellent terming :D
[15:51] <Creationist> AngryBacon: It lacks FULL video support :)
[15:52] <marx2k> I care not for video on an mp3 player
[15:52] <AngryBacon> Creationist, lol, 18fps
[15:52] <Creationist> marx2k: Then why do you need 80gb?
[15:52] <bazhang> the wubi org link leads to micah sittig's blog--none of the links have to do with wubi ubuntu installer
[15:52] <Creationist> marx2k: Those are some really friggin long trips you're taking.
[15:52] <marx2k> Creationist: hahaha Im just thinking long term here
[15:52] <fresh_dumbledore> is it possible to upgrade ubuntu 7.10 from 32bit to 64bit without losing data?
[15:52] <Creationist> AngryBacon: It's a 2-inch screen... you need a better framerate? lol
[15:52] <evand> bazhang: which link?  The ubuntuforums link goes to the wubi forum and the launchpad link goes to the file a bug page
[15:52] <marx2k> So the Zune works fine with Linux??
[15:53] <rjm> i installed vim-full but when i do :syntax=on - still no syntax highlighintg
[15:53] <pajamian> Creationist: the other thing is, check your RAM and CPU usage for FF when it starts freezing up, open up a terminal and run the "top" command, it will sort by the program with the highest CPU usage at the top.  You can then press M and it will change the sort to have the highest memory usage at the top.
[15:53] <bazhang> http://wubi.org/ this one evand
[15:53] <sipior> rjm: :set syntax on
[15:53] <rjm> and syntax on in my .vimrc still doesn't work
[15:53] <pajamian> Creationist: it will also report total RAM and CPU usage.
[15:53] <Creationist> marx2k: It does for now... but as it's a Microsoft product, don't expect newer versions to work for long.
[15:53] <AngryBacon> Creationist, I fail to see the correlation between the screensize & frame rate
[15:53] <rjm> :set syntax on gives - unknown option on
[15:54] <Creationist> pajamian: But firefox never freezes, just can't load any pages... like my connection drops.
[15:54] <bazhang> fresh_dumbledore: sadly no
[15:54] <sipior> rjm: i think you are still using the vim-tiny version
[15:54] <pajamian> Creationist: check your connection, then, try pinging websites.
[15:54] <AngryBacon> Creationist, also, my 6th gen ipod isn't sopported
[15:54] <Creationist> AngryBacon: My point is that on such a small screen, only 18fps won't be discernable from 30fps.
[15:54] <fresh_dumbledore> will it be possible in 8.04?
[15:54] <rjm> ah  is there something like aliases i need to edit to point to the new vim
[15:54] <pajamian> Creationist: rule out everything but FF, and then go to #firefox (I'm guessing) for support.
[15:54] <AngryBacon> Creationist, who,s your isp?
[15:54] <Creationist> AngryBacon: Yeah, Apple destroyed linux support... Microsoft will soon too.  Of course, the Apple "blocking" was cracked within hours :)
[15:54] <sipior> rjm: apologies, try just :set syntax
[15:55] <marx2k> Im glad to know many players are supported.  Im still trying to get past my MiniDisc player
[15:55] <Creationist> AngryBacon: Until later this afternoon I'm with Comcast.
[15:55] <evand> bazhang: we don't own wubi.org.  There's wubi-installer.org, but it's also included on the beta CD.  Just burn the beta, and pop it in your computer when in Windows.  Autorun should do the rest.
[15:55] <pajamian> oh shoot
[15:55] <pajamian> Creationist: you're with Comcast
[15:55] <bazhang> AngryBacon: you need the latest libgpod deb for ubuntu or wait 16 days for the next release
[15:55] <rjm> :set syntax gives no errors, but also no color?
[15:55] <rjm> i'm editing a .pl file btw
[15:55] <sipior> rjm: and :syntax enable?
[15:55] <Creationist> pajamian: Well, I'm getting AT&T connected today.
[15:55] <PookAir> I had ntfs 3g installed already and i still cant see my ntfs partition
[15:56] <bazhang> evand: okay so the factoid needs to be changed to wubi-installer.org then thanks
[15:56] <pajamian> Creationist: one sec, I'm looking up an article for you...
[15:56] <AngryBacon> Creationist, yeah' comcast sucks, but i can,t find any dsl with decent speed arund here
[15:56] <rjm> aha!
[15:56] <rjm> syntax enable works
[15:56] <sipior> rjm: now that i actually have the manual open... :syntax on should work fine. if it doesn't, ensure that you are running the full version of vim
[15:56] <rjm> thanks much:)
[15:56] <pajamian> Creationist: http://rss.slashdot.org/~r/Slashdot/slashdot/~3/265722093/article.pl
[15:56] <Creationist> AngryBacon: Well, I'm huge for speed... the highest AT&T offers is "up to" 6mbps.
[15:56] <marx2k> ugh I wish I could just stick a front-end on my Lacie external 2.5" USB drive :(
[15:57] <PookAir> Can any1 help me to see ntfs partion
[15:57] <AngryBacon> Creationist, the best i can get on DSL is 1.5
[15:57] <Odd-rationale> !ntfs | PookAir
[15:57] <ubotu> PookAir: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[15:57] <dtolj> PookAir: whats the problem?
[15:57] <Creationist> AngryBacon: Is that the highest service they offer?  Or just your top speed?
[15:57] <rjm> if i have syntax enable in my .vimrc won't that automatically turn it on for any thing i edit?
[15:57] <bazhang> http://wubi-installer.org/ not this http://wubi.org/ in the factoid
[15:57] <PookAir> I just cant find or see my ntfs partion
[15:57] <AngryBacon> Creationist, top avail in my area
[15:58] <Creationist> AngryBacon: With Comcast, I was paying $55/month for 3mbps.  The AT&T service I'm getting is $35 for 6mbps :)
[15:58] <tortus> allright, i just tried the live-cd. There my mice work, in the my ordinary system there still nothing
[15:58] <AngryBacon> Creationist, i get 10mbps w/comcast when it works
[15:58] <bazhang> PookAir: did you mount it?
[15:58] <tortus> my usb-keyboard works by the way, its just usb-mice that dont work
[15:59] <pajamian> they're unbundling the local loops here, and my ISP got in on it for the first exchange.  They say that with thier own equipment in the exchange they can get up to 15mbps or better.
[15:59] <charIie> Does anyone know a good stock ticker program for Ubuntu?
[15:59] <evand> bazhang: fixed thanks to the folks in ubuntu-ops.
[15:59] <Creationist> AngryBacon: Heh... never gotten that before. I've gotten up to 3.5 down I think.
[15:59] <PookAir> bazhang, I dont know im new to ubuntu but i know that last time i had an icon called data that had all my ntfs partion in it and now i installed ubuntu again and i cant find it
[15:59] <donfede> any idea what's up with packages.ubuntu.com?
[15:59] <bazhang> evand thanks for the info about installing; excited to try it ;]
[16:00] <AngryBacon> Creationist, _when it works_
[16:00] <SliMM> what other terminal special characters are there besides ^z and ^c?
[16:00] <genii> !smtm | charlie
[16:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smtm - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:00] <genii> Hmm
[16:00] <dtolj> PookAir: try gnome-volume-properties and enable it
[16:00] <bazhang> PookAir: this is a dual boot?
[16:01] <sipior> SliMM: ctrl-\, ctrl-q, ctrl-s
[16:01] <SliMM> sipior: and what do they do?
[16:01] <PookAir> bazhang, I dont think so i mean i think (hope ) that the ntfs partion is without windows
[16:01] <pajamian> Creationist: nm that article I posted to you, I just checked the original article again and they've put up a post sayign it is in error.
[16:01] <sipior> SliMM: flow control, job-killing
[16:02] <genii> charIie: from apt-cache search: smtm - Show Me The Money is a configurable Perl/Tk stock ticker program
[16:02] <charIie> thanks
[16:02] <Creationist> pajamian: Yeah... didn't sound too likely.
[16:02] <charIie> ill check it out
[16:02] <SliMM> sipior: any list of such commands described somewhere?
[16:02] <Creationist> I hate America sometimes
[16:02] <vinconzo> me 2
[16:02] <AngryBacon> TERRORISTS!!!!
[16:02] <vinconzo> but it might change if obama wins
[16:02] <bazhang> but we love ubotu
[16:02] <sipior> Creationist: not really the place...
[16:02] <Qu_Deadmen> hum
[16:03] <erUSUL> !ot | Creationist AngryBacon
[16:03] <Qu_Deadmen> hello all
[16:03] <ubotu> Creationist AngryBacon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[16:03] <Qu_Deadmen> im french
[16:03] <erUSUL> !fr | Qu_Deadmen
[16:03] <ubotu> Qu_Deadmen: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[16:03] <PookAir> bazhang,  any idea?
[16:03] <bazhang> hello Qu_Deadmen
[16:03] <Qu_Deadmen> i'm coming here for the first time
[16:03] <vinconzo> #ubuntu-fftopic isnt the place either btw
[16:03] <pajamian> Creationist: well you never know with comcast.  Unfortunately I wouldn't trust AT&T any more than them and I've heard you can't get 3rd party ISPs for DSL in the states anymore (I used to use DSL Extreme and thought they were great)
[16:03] <vinconzo> it's not meant for politics chat
[16:04] <rwycuff> anyone hear anything about windows 7 using open source and what that suppose to consist of
[16:04] <bazhang> PookAir: did you try dtolj's suggestion yet?
[16:04] <AngryBacon> pajamian, you can, but they just buy from ATT etall
[16:04] <n-iCe> hi
[16:04] <PookAir> bazhang, how do i get to gnome volume properties?
[16:04] <dtolj> rwycuff: give me a break!
[16:04] <PookAir> bazhang,  I'm new :S
[16:05] <pajamian> AngryBacon: yes, they always did, but it was still better customer service than having to get from the telco's direct.
[16:05] <sipior> SliMM: try "stty -a"
[16:05] <bazhang> PookAir: ask the man himself; I'm using kde ;]
[16:05] <pajamian> What they really need to do is unbundle the local loops
[16:05] <dtolj> PookAir: if you want to auto mount it when u start it there is a daemon running configure it from bash using gnome-volume-properties
[16:05] <sipior> SliMM: look under "cchars"
[16:05]  * AngryBacon does need to find an alternative to comcast
[16:06] <rwycuff> dtolj: im not for it just someone feeding me the info and im not for it any any way nor could i see it happening
[16:06] <PookAir> bazhang,dtolj, I don't understand a word you two are saying
[16:06] <rwycuff> dtolj:was more wondering if any one else had heard that statment any place else
[16:06] <PookAir> kde bash, gnome, :S
[16:06] <dtolj> PookAir: u using Gnome?
[16:07] <bazhang> rwycuff: aye, away from this channel--offtopic here I believe though
[16:07] <PookAir> I think so, I mean its default in ubuntu 7.1
[16:07] <pajamian> rwycuff: I haven't heard it and it's probably just the result of someone speculating.  There is no way that MS will open source Windows 7.
[16:08] <dtolj> PookAir: fire up that command in bash then to mount your ntfs partition
[16:08] <Qu_Deadmen> I'm leaving for #ubuntu-fr. May dashs of level drink thou 2 yar east
[16:08] <yoddabyte> hey what are good virtual server for ubuntu someone gave a list VMware errors out i dont feel like playing with it...trying to get live cd run inside ubuntu
[16:08] <vinconzo> pajamian, maybe the core os
[16:08] <PookAir> dtolj, now just please say it in english
[16:08] <vinconzo> like apple did with osx
[16:08] <pajamian> !virtual | yoddabyte
[16:08] <hischild> yoddabyte, virtualbox?
[16:08] <ubotu> yoddabyte: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications
[16:08] <PookAir> dtolj, last time i installed ubuntu it was there and working
[16:09] <yoddabyte> cool thx guys
[16:09] <pajamian> vinconzo: I don't think so.
[16:09] <dtolj> PookAir: do you know where bash is?
[16:09] <rwycuff> pajamian:this last time ill go offf topic but im not seeing them opening windose but rather using Open Source and calling it thier own thats what they do after all
[16:09] <PookAir> dtolj, I don't know what it is
[16:09] <bazhang> !windows
[16:09] <ubotu> For discussion and help with Microsoft Windows, please visit ##windows. See http://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/1 http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and /msg ubotu equivalents
[16:09] <vinconzo> pajamian, me neither, but i never expected it from apple either
[16:09] <pajamian> rwycuff: yes, they'll grab BSD code, they always have.
[16:09] <dtolj> !bash
[16:09] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[16:09] <n-iCe> how can I check my video drivers?
[16:10] <pajamian> vinconzo: the plans for windows 7 is to rent it off in pieces.  They want you to pay for every little thing you do with it.  That's the furthest thing from open source.
[16:10] <bazhang> ;[
[16:10] <dtolj> I am not looking forward to that
[16:10]  * Steven_Office is back (gone 00:00:36)
[16:10] <vinconzo> pajamian, yes... it is
[16:10]  * Steven_Office is away: off to the mayo clinic
[16:10] <vinconzo> dtolj, i am
[16:11] <vinconzo> ppl will start using more other OSes
[16:11] <vinconzo> like Ubuntu
[16:11] <pajamian> vinconzo: they already are.
[16:11] <PookAir> dtolj, i dont know were bash is
[16:12] <rwycuff> pajamian: they never grabed any bsd code for thier stuff but i could totally see it
[16:12] <pajamian> PookAir: Applications / Accessories / Terminal
[16:12] <dtolj> !bash|PookAir
[16:12] <ubotu> PookAir: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[16:12] <bazhang> PookAir: open the terminal; alt f2 terminal
[16:12] <PookAir> terminal is bash?
[16:13]  * AngryBacon must be going
[16:13] <bazhang> effectively yes
[16:13] <dtolj> PookAir: not really but you can call it like that
[16:13] <n-iCe> how can I check my video drivers?
[16:13] <pajamian> PookAir: technically no, but effectively yes.
[16:13] <PookAir> :S ok
[16:13] <rwycuff> PoolAir:Terminal can be what ever shell you set it too
[16:13] <PookAir> so now i got my bash open now what?
[16:13] <PookAir> or terminal
[16:13] <bazhang> n-iCe: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:13] <SliMM> what does ^c do?
[16:14] <ChaosTheory> Can anyone help with installing awn applets?
[16:14] <PookAir> How do i mount ntfs partion?   and what does it do?
[16:14] <pajamian> rwycuff: they've grabbed lots of BSD code, from memory I think ... thier command line FTP program, the TCP/IP stack, and I think even thier new shell is taken mostly from BSD code.
[16:14] <sipior> SliMM: sends an interrupt signal to the foreground process
[16:14] <pajamian> rwycuff: and lots more as well that I can't think of.
[16:15] <SliMM> sipior: how do i switch between processes?
[16:15] <pajamian> !ntfs | PookAir
[16:15] <ubotu> PookAir: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[16:15] <rwycuff> pajamian:atleast apple gives credit to BSD
[16:15] <sipior> SliMM: if you have multiple processes running on a terminal, try "jobs"
[16:15] <PookAir> !ntfs
[16:15] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[16:16] <pajamian> rwycuff: if you can get the source code from MS (which you can't) you'll see appropriate credit in the source files.
[16:16] <PookAir> can any one help me with my ntfs partion
[16:16] <pajamian> PookAir: go and read the link ubotu just gave you.
[16:17] <pajamian> !NTFS-3g | PookAir (...also this)
[16:17] <ubotu> PookAir (...also this): ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[16:17] <dtolj> PookAir: you dont need to edit /etc/fstab, from gnome-volume-properties check the first 3 options under removable storage.
[16:18] <PookAir> dtolj, how do i get to gnome volume properties?
[16:18] <killuats> hi all!
[16:18] <dtolj> PookAir: enter it in bash
[16:18] <dtolj> PookAir: :)
[16:18] <killuats> how do i enable php5-cgi in apache2 the ubuntu/debian way?
[16:18] <ikm> hello there,
[16:18] <PookAir> dtolj, thanks
[16:19] <ikm> can i remove initramfs errors from HDD? any soulution ?
[16:19] <pajamian> ikm: still cant' boot to the live CD?
[16:20] <Sprengelmeyer> Ive always wondered: why doesn't ubuntu (undoubtedly the most popular linux distribution) have a "colourful" console like say for example gentoo cli's.
[16:20] <tortus> Xorg.0.log tells me "Unable to grad device (Device or resource busy). Cowardly refusing to check use as keyboard." If edit xorg.conf to not use driver evdev but "mouse" it works. How can i get evdev back to work?
[16:20] <PookAir> dtolj, the top three boxes were already checked
[16:20] <Pici> Sprengelmeyer: colorful?
[16:20] <dtolj> Sprengelmeyer: you can theme it
[16:20] <Elrohir> hello
[16:20] <w0nder> hey guys, anyone know of a good all-around PHP\CSS editor (or suite) for ubuntu?  WYSIWYG preferred
[16:20] <Sprengelmeyer> dtolj, I meant by default
[16:20] <unop_> Sprengelmeyer, the gnome-terminal is colorful enough as compared to say xterm or rxvt :)
[16:20] <Exteris> w0nder, bluefish is a good code editor
[16:21] <dtolj> Sprengelmeyer: its the users choice what they want to do
[16:21] <ikm> pajamian: i can boot to live cd when i use disk no 1 but cant boot when using disk no 2 :(
[16:21] <pajamian> ikm: booting to the live CD has nothing to do with your HDD
[16:21] <dtolj> pajamian: only disk 1 is bootable usually
[16:22] <ikm> but it want to install linux in disk 2, not in disk 1
[16:22] <zubair> i just downloaded joomla for linux.how should i go about installing it.i am new to linux!
[16:22] <dtolj> ikm: so it prompts you to insert disk 2?
[16:22] <pajamian> ikm: back up a min, there is no disk 2 for the live CD, what are you talking about?
[16:22] <ikm> pajamian: when i unplug disk1 and want to install linux in disk2, still same problem, i contact to computer guy, he is a window user he also failed
[16:23] <Sprengelmeyer> Pici, by "colourful" i mean http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff300/nilsmilo/terminal.png
[16:23] <eax> Morning gentlefolks :) Can anyone tell me how to mount an external harddrive in gutsy? It's formatted in NFTS but I can't read it :(
[16:23] <dtolj> ikm: maybe there is a CRC error on it you should check all disks after burning the isos
[16:23] <ikm> disk2 means 2nd HDD :)
[16:23] <pajamian> ikm: ok, so you're saying you want to install ubuntu on your 2nd HDD, and leave windows on the first?
[16:23] <ikm> yessssss
[16:24] <Pici> Sprengelmeyer: You're free to submit a bug report (perhaps marked as wishlist) to colorize the bash defaults.   I personally use zsh with my own color scheme.
[16:24] <pajamian> ikm: you will still have to install grub onto the MBA of the 1st drive, otherwise it will only boot to windows.
[16:24] <kazol_> How do I set the system to hibernate after a specific period of time?
[16:24] <ikm> pajamian: i dont want to install anything in 1st HDD, just want to use 2nd HDD for linux. why should i install grub in 1st HDD?
[16:25] <dtolj> eax: it should pick it up automatically if you have hot-plugging enabled
[16:25] <zubair> can neone help me with the installation of joomla on linux??
[16:25] <ikm> pajamian: i dont want a duel boot
[16:25] <grr3> how do I prevent the livecd from loading x? ( I want to be in linux terminal )
[16:25] <pajamian> ikm: then what do you want to do?
[16:25] <eax> dtolj: Not sure if I have :) Just installed this day, where do I enable it?
[16:25] <Pelo> grr3, check the menu opitons at the beginning, should be in there
[16:25] <dtolj> eax: gnome-volume-properties
[16:25] <picaso> i have a problem with bonobo activation server. it hangs or something when i log out. and when i logo back in, i get lots of errors or a black screen. does anyone know what causes this? is it a bug with the bonobo activation server? because i got a tip online about killing bonobo after logout to fix the problem, and it does work. but i dont want to have to kill it each time i log out.
[16:26] <ikm> pajamian: my problem will solve when i remove the " initramfs " from my HDD
[16:26] <eax> dtolj: In terminal or synaptic?
[16:26] <dtolj> grr3: did you try linux rescue?
[16:26] <dtolj> eax: terminal
[16:26] <zubair> can neone help me with linux?
[16:26] <eax> dtolj: Thanks :) it is enabled though :S Still doesn't work :S
[16:27] <Ethan> zubair: ask, do not ask for ask :P
[16:27] <Sprengelmeyer> Pici, Oh i dont use ubuntu, i just seemed like a really easy feature to have installed by default that would make the whole user-terminal relationship seem less scary with clearly visible colour differences between say "user localhost #" and other screen output. Not to mention having important user notices printed in a clearly visible Red or Yellow to grab the users attention.
[16:27] <pajamian> ikm: ok, disconnect the 1st HDD, make sure the 2nd one is configured as "master" (either with jumper or cable position) and make sure the CMOS is set up correctly for just the one drive, then boot to the live CD and install ubuntu.  When you're doen change the configuration back.  That said, I don't see how you would want to do that because what good is it if you can't boot to it?
[16:27] <Sprengelmeyer> 'it
[16:27] <zubair> i just downloaded joomla from the net. but how should i go about installing it on my linux system?
[16:27] <ikm> pajamian: can u go through this website for a minute , http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT4017834659.html
[16:28] <dtolj> eax: is your haldaemon running?
[16:28] <ikm> pajamian: u will have an idea what i am talkig abt
[16:28] <eax> dtolj: The error message i get is: "$LogFile indicates unclean shutdown (0, 0) Failed to mount ' /dev/sdb1': Operation not supported Mount is denied because NTFS is marked to be in use."
[16:28] <DrYes> huhu... sind hier deutschsprechende anwesend ?
[16:28] <eax> Dtolj: What do you mean? And how do I check? :)
[16:28] <bazhang> !de | DrYes
[16:28] <ubotu> DrYes: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[16:28] <DrYes> thanks
[16:28] <bazhang> np ;]
[16:29] <smjones> Have any of you heard of bridging a EVDO connection to ethernet?
[16:29] <pajamian> ikm: I know what an initramfs is, I don't see why it's a problem and you probably won't be able to remove it from ubuntu without compiling your own kernel (which I'm not prepared to go into now).
[16:29] <ikm> pajamian: ok i will cheke this option tooo, and hope it will work :
[16:29] <dtolj> eax: /etc/init.d/haldaemon status
[16:29] <pajamian> ikm: what on earth do you plan to do with ubuntu if you can't boot to it?
[16:29] <eax> dtolj: In terminal?
[16:29] <ikm> pajamian: ok dear thanks alot, pray for me to install ubuntu successfully :)
[16:29] <dtolj> eax: always
[16:30] <ikm> brb.......
[16:30] <eax> dtolj: Uhm.. just the line "/etc/init.d/haldaemon status"?
[16:32] <smjones> Have any of you heard of bridging a EVDO connection to ethernet?
[16:32] <dtolj> eax: assuming that's the place where your processes are located
[16:32] <eax> dtolj: I haven't changed anything :) But shouldn't I write something like cd in front or something
[16:33] <dtolj> eax: no just run that and see let me the message
[16:33] <Kl4m> smjones: Bell Canada offers a subscription to "Wireless Internet". I think it's 3G/EVDO via a "modem" with ethernet plug
[16:33] <eax> dtolj: "No such file or directory"
[16:33] <r0drigu3z> ...
[16:34] <Kl4m> smjones: but I just saw it passing at one of their stores
[16:34] <zubair> plz. help me
[16:34] <dtolj> eax: shoot, i dont remember the location to ubuntus processes, using fedora now
[16:34] <zubair> i am stuck on it
[16:34] <smjones> I have a working EVDO, I want it to server internet to my router via my eth0 to update the machines connected to the router
[16:34] <n-iCe> how can I check if my video drivers are correct?
[16:34] <mas_> hi
[16:34] <smjones> serve, sorry
[16:35] <n-iCe> how can I check if my video drivers are correct? and how can I know my video card??
[16:35] <dtolj> n-iCe: see if they are loaded using 'lsmod'
[16:35] <mas_> ktos z polski jest?:D
[16:35] <eax> dtolj: Okay, damn :( Thanks anyway :)
[16:35] <n-iCe> dtolj,  no
[16:35] <grr3> I cannot find how to boot livecd into text mode in the boot menu. How do I do that?
[16:36] <erUSUL> grr3: you can't afaik
[16:36] <grr3> oh
[16:36] <dtolj> should there be a linux rescue option from a boot cd?
[16:36] <pajamian> grr3: use the alternate install CD.
[16:36] <r0drigu3z> mmm
[16:36] <mas_> i need gg client
[16:36] <r0drigu3z> Alguien
[16:36] <r0drigu3z> que hable
[16:36] <r0drigu3z> en español
[16:36] <grr3> pajamian
[16:36] <riotkittie> !es | r0drigu3z
[16:36] <ubotu> r0drigu3z: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:36] <turdega> dtolj, if you wanna make sure your direct open gl rendering is working thats a good sign they are in right use "glxinfo | grep direct"
[16:36] <r0drigu3z> oks
[16:37] <SliMM> sipior: so, how do i return to a job?
[16:37] <grr3> isn't that just install and not a live CD? I just want it to not startx.
[16:37] <SliMM> sipior: and how do i make a job run in background?
[16:37] <turdega> dtolj, if it says Direct Rendering: Yes you should be good to go...after that try glxgears if thats looking good you should be ready to game
[16:37] <erUSUL> grr3: dunno if «sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop» will work on livecd (after normal boot)
[16:37] <pajamian> grr3: it is a live CD without the GUI
[16:37] <n-iCe> How can I know my video card?
[16:37] <erUSUL> !alternate | grr3
[16:37] <ubotu> grr3: The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.  Look for the alternate checkbox on the Ubuntu download page - See also !minimal
[16:37] <sipior> SliMM: if you've started a task, you can background it by hitting ctrl-z, and then "bg"
[16:38] <erUSUL> n-iCe: lspci | grep -i vga
[16:38] <SliMM> sipior: ctrl+z stops the task
[16:38] <Nwallins|home> Hi, every once in a while, when I boot, I boot to (initramfs) command prompt, and I get a busybox banner at the top.  i usually just ctrl-alt-del to reboot, and ubuntu loads normally after that
[16:38] <turdega> oh i got n-iCe and dtolj  confused sorry
[16:38] <sipior> SliMM: if you want that task to run in the background to begin with, just invoke it with an ampersand at the end
[16:38] <grr3> I don't want to install, I want livecd in textmode. My laptop gets confused with the gfx.
[16:38] <n-iCe> erUSUL,  thanks, how can I know if my drivers are correct and how can I update them???
[16:39] <riotkittie> live CD in text mode == not happening
[16:39] <annonymouse> any one know how to migrate and back up evolution email to thunderbird my evolution client well buggy
[16:39] <SliMM> sipior: and if i just want to start a task, and then, after a while, leave it running and start another one, and then switch back?
[16:39] <grr3> riotkittie, I don't get it. It's just about removing startx command
[16:39] <pajamian> Nwallins|home: it happens first thing in the morning when you turn your computer on?
[16:39] <erUSUL> n-iCe: what do you mean? do you have any problem with your dislay?
[16:40] <sipior> SliMM: ctrl-z, bg, start your other task, background it the same way, then use "jobs" to go between the two
[16:40] <riotkittie> grr3: you can try it, and try stopping gdm but i'm not sure it will work
[16:40] <n-iCe> erUSUL,  yeah playing games with wine, when I try to click the play now button everything crashes, wine channel told me because a drivers problem, I want to update my drivers
[16:40] <grr3> what do I need to do to try to stop gdm?
[16:40] <erUSUL> n-iCe: which card do you have?
[16:41] <Canaveral> euh...
[16:41] <pajamian> grr3: alternate install CD, use the recovery option in the main menu, it will ask a couple questions about time zone, etc, and then dump you in a shell.
[16:41] <SliMM> sipior: ok, how do i use jobs, there is no man entry, and it just lists the jobs by default
[16:41] <uffie> hello Canaveral
[16:41] <dtolj> whats the name of that remote desktop tool that you use in ubuntu?
[16:41] <riotkittie> grr3: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[16:41] <timo> grr3: what you mean. how you done some thing to ur gdm.
[16:41] <Canaveral> it's in english here ?
[16:41] <erUSUL> SliMM: man bash
[16:41] <Nwallins|home> pajamian: no, after reboots
[16:41] <sipior> SliMM: "jobs" is part of the shell. try "man bash" for an incredible amount of detail
[16:41] <SliMM> ok
[16:41] <SliMM> thanks
[16:41] <Nwallins|home> pajamian: i am running raid-1 / mdadm
[16:41] <uffie> yep
[16:41] <pajamian> Nwallins|home: so it works first thing in the morning but not after reboots?
[16:41] <Nwallins|home> pajamian: a lot of rebooting to set up various things
[16:42] <grr3> riotkittie, where do I write "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop" ?
[16:42] <Nwallins|home> pajamian: this machine hasn't been off in a while
[16:42] <pajamian> Nwallins|home: ok, then
[16:42] <timo> try this sudo /etc/init.d gdm stop
[16:42] <Nwallins|home> pajamian: i was actually thinking it might need a hard reset
[16:42] <turdega> anyone else having broken launchpad-integration packages with Hardy right now
[16:42] <n-iCe> erUSUL,  my video card is: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04)
[16:42] <Nwallins|home> pajamian: i.e. power cycle
[16:42] <riotkittie> grr3:  ALT + CTRL +F1 to a TTY and do it there
[16:42] <jaffarkelshac> i need a good video editor, any suggestions
[16:42] <pajamian> Nwallins|home: I wouldn't know, I was thinking heat related problem, but if it hasn't been off in a while that's not it.
[16:43] <dtolj> jaffarkelshac: kino
[16:43] <erUSUL> n-iCe: afaik you drivers and all should be already  installed
[16:43] <Nwallins|home> pajamian: i've been booting in an out of ubuntu livecd
[16:43] <SliMM> sipior: one more thing, how do i make a job stop outputting for a while, while it runs in the background?
[16:43] <jaffarkelshac> dtolj, do you use it,
[16:43] <n-iCe> erUSUL,  there is no way to update?
[16:43] <annonymouse> does any one know how to get email form evolution into thunderbird
[16:43] <erUSUL> n-iCe: no; no an easy one
[16:43] <dtolj> jaffarkelshac: no video editing is not my thing
[16:44] <n-iCe> thanks
[16:44] <n-iCe> :<
[16:44] <sipior> SliMM: if the job is trying to write to the terminal, it will halt automatically when you background it
[16:44] <jaffarkelshac> kino is not very good
[16:44] <timo> guys pigeon being very slow then i type.  i makes it hard and not fun to chat :(
[16:44] <sipior> jaffarkelshac: welcome to the world of Linux video editing
[16:44] <jaffarkelshac> sipior, it not being good?
[16:45] <turdega> jaffarkelshac, http://cvs.cinelerra.org/ is another one
[16:45] <nottobi> hello, .. after installing windows i tried to reinstall grub, with root (hd0,1) and setup (hd0) .. worked fine. i can boot back to linux, but now my ntfs partition is broken?
[16:45] <sipior> jaffarkelshac: afraid so. at least, at the moment. i know a number of folks are working on the problem.
[16:45] <pajamian> annonymouse: I'm sure there's some sort of tool you can use to export it, but if all else fails find an IMAP server (I hear gmail has IMAP connections now) and drag your email folders into that, then you can do the opposite in TB.
[16:45] <c0ldfusion> How can I send a message to the display from the command line? I tried zenity --display :0 --warning --text "asdf" but I get cannot open display
[16:45] <annonymouse> ok pajamian i'll look into that
[16:46] <dtolj> nottobi: try editing menu.lst and chainload to windows partition
[16:46] <c0ldfusion> oh n/m; I have to run as user
[16:47] <nottobi> dtolj: yes, i adjusted my menu.lst, but i can't even mount the ntfs partition any more. it seems to be broken. was there not enough space for grub in the mbr?
[16:48] <pajamian> goodnight everyone
[16:48] <uhblivius> if I'm running XFCE and tightvncserver, can someone else get an X session with xvncviewer?
[16:48] <dtolj> nottobi: no thats not it grub should find its place in MBR, but you can boot into ntfs?
[16:49] <nottobi> dtolj: no, neither boot nor mount it: "unexpected clusters per mft record (-1), fauled to mount .. etc."
[16:50] <uhblivius> Do I have to kill X before someone else can get an X session with VNC?
[16:50] <nottobi> dtolj: i thought if installing grub wouldn't have killed the ntfs-partition i should be able to mount it?
[16:50] <Deanodriver> my wireless connection works for a couple days, but now it won't detect any access points
[16:50] <Deanodriver> it detects something in iwconfig
[16:51] <Deanodriver> although it also says "Rx invalid" stuff
[16:51] <dtolj> nottobi: I dont see how grub could have damaged it, try repairing the partition from linux then, you dont need to mount it, use fdisk /dev/(ntfs)
[16:51] <Deanodriver> although when i type in iwlist ath0 scan, it doesn't detect anything
[16:51] <juanjh> ola
[16:51] <juanjh> ola
[16:52] <Deanodriver> hi
[16:52] <juanjh> como
[16:52] <juanjh> he
[16:52] <Pici> !es | juanjh
[16:52] <ubotu> juanjh: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[16:52] <juanjh> de donde eres
[16:52] <nottobi> dtolj: i am just wondering how that could be possible. it's a relatively new lenovo-laptop, and i already had problems with sata, but it's running in compatibility mode now..
[16:52] <juanjh> como hijo puta
[16:53] <BadHorsie> !epiphany-webkit
[16:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about epiphany-webkit - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:54] <dtolj> BadHorsie: you use it?
[16:54] <dtolj> !webkit-gtk
[16:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webkit-gtk - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[16:54] <Pici> !msgthebot
[16:54] <ubotu> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[16:54] <genii> nottobi: google is indicating the fix for this message is to run the fixboot command in the Windows Recovery Console of bootable cd
[16:54] <BadHorsie> dtolj: a friend is just having problems trying to install it, so i'm curious why isn't it in the repositories
[16:55] <genii> nottobi: This will hose Grub but you can reinstall it afterwards
[16:55] <dtolj> BadHorsie: They just announced it, I havent seen any custom builds but there is documentation how to build it yourself
[16:56] <BadHorsie> dtolj: alright, i saw a couple of howtos but just wanted to know what was going on
[16:56] <nottobi> genii: ok thanks. but is there besides hardware-problems another possibility that installing grub kann destroy partitions?
[16:56] <dtolj> BadHorsie: http://live.gnome.org/Epiphany/WebKit
[16:57] <nottobi> genii: just to know for the next try, if i should move the partitions.
[16:57] <BadHorsie> thanks a lot dtolj
[16:57] <BadHorsie> dtolj: isnt' this simpler: http://phorolinux.com/how-to-install-epiphany-with-the-webkit-backend-on-ubuntu-710.html ?
[16:57] <dtolj> nottobi: how does fdisk read that ntfs partition?
[16:58] <genii> nottobi: If you try to install grub on a sub-partition it will mess up the partiton information as to what partition type it is, etc. But if to MBR it's fine.
[16:58] <dtolj> BadHorsie: this targets ubuntu specific distro, good for ubuntu users
[16:58] <nottobi> dtolj: it says System unknown, and for all partitions it says Partition X does not end on cylinder boundaries.
[16:59] <mizan> Hi!
[16:59] <BadHorsie> dtolj: i fail to understand whether that is good or not lol
[16:59] <mizan> Hi!
[16:59] <c0ldfusion> hi
[16:59] <yahuuu> hi again
[17:00] <mizan> how r u?
[17:00]  * yahuuu is Ikm
[17:00] <dtolj> nottobi: do you not get a message saying press w to correct partition table or similar
[17:00] <erUSUL> !hi | mizan
[17:00] <ubotu> mizan: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[17:00] <B-rabbit> is there a way to convert .flv to .3gp format??
[17:00] <erUSUL> B-rabbit: ffmpeg ??
[17:00] <B-rabbit> erUSUL, thnx
[17:00] <yahuuu> seen Pajaimin?
[17:00] <grr3> how do I find a hd that has no valid partitions to automount?
[17:01] <dtolj> nottobi: I would recommend downloading http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ to fix grub/hard disk related issues
[17:01] <nottobi> dtolj: no, it even says THis doesn't look like a partition table, probably you selected the wrong device
[17:01] <erUSUL> grr3: usb?
[17:01] <nottobi> so i am hesitating to write something back to the mbr
[17:02] <dtolj> nottobi: what does it say in cat /etc/mtab
[17:02] <_Tux__> what is the best IM ??? (a one that supports a wide broad of clients)
[17:02] <geronimaldo> has anyone here run excel / vba macros on linux
[17:02] <grr3> erUSUL, nope, normal HD that has no partitions with valid filesystems on it.
[17:02] <dtolj> _Tux__: using Pidgin now it rox
[17:02] <nottobi> genii: i hope it's what i did with root(hd0,1) and setup (hd0)
[17:03] <dtolj> nottobi: that command should have installed grub in the MBR
[17:03] <erUSUL> grr3: ls -al /dev/disk/by-id/* should list all your disk with a fairly descriptive name
[17:03] <grr3> thanks
[17:04] <nottobi> dtolj: ok thats the /etc/mtab from the xubuntu cd, there is /dev/sda2 listed as ext3
[17:04] <chero> hello good morning
[17:04] <chero> i have a problem  with aptoncd
[17:04] <nottobi> dtolj: no ntfs, gparted is also not able to mount it
[17:04] <dtolj> nottobi: just that?
[17:04] <genii> nottobi: That command should be fine. It's when you do something like put setup to a subpartition that causes a lot of grief
[17:04] <chero> i can t put in the iso my old programs
[17:05] <chero> the program only puts the new software
[17:05] <chero> anybody can helpme plese?
[17:05] <nottobi> dtolj: no, 10other lines - but nothing else of sda. what do you want to know?
[17:05] <darko> hey, i changed the aMSN language to some weird shit by mistake how can i undo the change
[17:05] <Jellorian> I'm having issues getting post-commit hooks to work using the packages for Trac and SVN with Ubuntu 7.10.
[17:05] <Jellorian> They fail, regardless of the content of the post-commit script.
[17:06] <Jellorian> There is a clearsilver version mis-match error.
[17:06] <Jellorian> But it is only a warning, and I've seen it in Trac before and it is non-fatal.
[17:06] <dtolj> genii: not really I have it like that across different distros which gives me the advantage of chainloading them together
[17:06] <Jellorian> Warning: 'post-commit' hook failed with error output: /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/trac/web/clearsilver.py:128: RuntimeWarning: Python C API version mismatch for module neo_util: This Python has API version 1013, module neo_util has version 1012.
[17:07] <darko> hey, i changed the aMSN language to some weird shit by mistake how can i undo the change
[17:07] <MauL^> what can I use in Linux instead of Biztalk
[17:07] <Pici> !language | darko
[17:07] <ubotu> darko: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.
[17:07] <dtolj> nottobi: well if its corrupt somehow, you have to use special tools to fix it, what message do you get when you try to mount /dev/sda1
[17:07] <genii> dtolj: If you install grub to something like sda2 instead of mbr the partition type will change to something like Acorn Partition Type and the system refuses to auto mount
[17:08] <Jellorian> I found reference to this bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/clearsilver/+bug/114930
[17:08] <genii> I've seen it a lot
[17:08] <Jellorian> However, there is no solution listed.
[17:08] <darko> sorry, i changed the aMSN language to some weird "symbols" by mistake how can i undo the change
[17:08] <genii> dtolj: If you install to the mbr of each drive there is no issue with chainloading or so on
[17:09] <elbe39> hello
[17:09] <dtolj> genii: right , however fedora gives you the option of installing the bootloader into subpartition
[17:09] <Jellorian> Has anyone gotten svn post-commit hooks to work on Ubuntu 7.10?
[17:10] <nottobi> dtolj: "unexpected clusters per mft record (-1), fauled to mount .." genii answered on that message that google finds windows recovery and fixmbr as answer
[17:10] <nottobi> dtolj: i am wondering what i should change if i can fix it, by fixmbr or reinstall, what will happen the next time i install grub
[17:11] <dtolj> genii: I find it easier to configure the main bootloader inside the MRB to chainload to other partitions bootloader instead of overwriting each time
[17:13] <chero> anubaody know if i can rstore my /var/cache/apt/archives
[17:13] <chero> ?
[17:13] <_Tux__> you deleted it?
[17:14] <genii> chero: If you've emptied it out, it will repopulate with deb files as you install them.
[17:14] <_Tux__> chero: if you deleted it, maybe it is still in the recycle bin?
[17:14] <dtolj> nottobi: try fixmbr if that dosnt work its safe to reinstall grub
[17:15] <chero> mmm maybe
[17:15] <nottobi> dtolj: ok, i will try. i have to leave the irc. thanks a lot and cu
[17:15] <chero> well isnt clean}
[17:15] <benanz1> Can I encrypt a file with GnuPG but not require a key to decrypt it, just a password?
[17:15] <anteaya> on ubuntu, what is the best app to play mp4's?
[17:15] <chero> but only have the news packages the olds are clean
[17:15] <esox> Hi, I have corruption around the mouse pointer, ati radeon X 700 mobility
[17:15] <nottobi> genii: thank you as well, i try to fix it, and i come back :-) bye
[17:15] <arvind_khadri> abid, happy to hear it worked :)
[17:16] <legend2440> darko: read number 24 under Troubleshooting http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Frequently+Asked+Questions
[17:16] <arvind_khadri> anteya totem movie / rythmbox
[17:16] <flea> how can i specify at kernel command, a module to .not. load?
[17:16] <anteaya> arvind_khadri, : thank you
[17:17] <benanz1> flea: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[17:17] <benanz1> put "blacklist module_name" on a line of it's own
[17:17] <flea> benanz1: on an uninstalled system i need to .not. load a module at kernel command
[17:17] <darko> i downloaded lots of programs and all the update on ubuntu gutsy, is there anyway for me to compile the current version for later installations
[17:17] <andrea__> hi I can't see NFS shared folders in my ubuntu
[17:17] <benanz1> at boot time?
[17:17] <andrea__> folders are in a kubuntu machine
[17:17] <flea> benanz1: yes
[17:18] <andrea__> please help
[17:18] <sipior> darko: yes, dpkg --get-selections
[17:18] <andrea__> need help please
[17:19] <darko> sipior: i run that in the terminal??
[17:19] <sipior> darko: read in later with "dpkg --set-selections" and then "apt-get dselect-upgrade"
[17:19] <p> ubuntu deutsch
[17:19] <Pici> !de | p
[17:19] <ubotu> p: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[17:19] <p> thanks^^
 hi I can't see NFS shared folders in my ubuntu
[17:20] <andrea__> please help
[17:20] <ikonia> andrea__: we saw you the first second and third time
[17:20] <B-rabbit> erUSUL, i got ffmpeg but how do i convert flv to 3gp, do u know the command?
[17:20] <ikonia> !patience > andrea__
[17:20] <andrea__> ok sorry
[17:20] <gatestone> darko I suspect there might be a long discussion about all that is possible, but you can just boot from a CD and use dd /dev/hda... etc to copy the whole disk image, or you can use cp -r / ... to copy all the files to a safe place...a Linux installation is no more than "all the files".
[17:21] <erUSUL> B-rabbit: ffmpeg -i file-flv file.3gp ?
[17:21] <darko> ok 10x
[17:22] <koro> hi
[17:22] <gatestone> Hmmm..some things like /etc/fstab might not be usable in a new machine, though. And some confguratons would need to be tinkered with, if like the video driver is different ina new machine...
[17:22] <ikonia> gatestone: the uuid's would change
[17:22] <koro> What's a good way to minimize thunderbird to the system tray (like the minimzetotray addon in windows)?
[17:22] <flea> can someone advise how to force a module to .not. load at boot time (kernel command)
[17:22] <ikonia> gatestone: the boot loader would also need re-installing
[17:22] <ikonia> flea: blacklist it ?
[17:23] <flea> ikonia: its not installed system, i need kernel command
[17:23] <tawt> ok, so i really like the slow smooth fade out that happens when you go to system -> quit.  but when you press cancel, it quickly brings the colors back.  is there anyone here that works on the main ubuntu projects that can change it so that it fades back the desktop colors?
[17:23] <erUSUL> B-rabbit: ffmpeg -i file.flv file.3gp ? sorry
[17:23] <gatestone> ikonia, you are right, cp -r / ... is probably not so good idea.
[17:23] <ikonia> flea: there you want to pass ignore arguments to the boot line
[17:23] <ikonia> gatestone: cp -rXp is the only way that would potentially work and it wold still need changes
[17:23] <flea> ikonia: i dont even have a partition yet
[17:24] <gatestone> ikonia, you are right, cp -r / ... is probably not so good idea (hear me darko)
[17:24] <Andril> hello all
[17:24] <ikonia> flea so you want to pass it as a boot argument
[17:24] <flea> ikonia: yes
[17:24] <flea> ikonia: from a livecd
[17:24] <ikonia> flea: you can access the boot lines with F6 at boot time
[17:24] <flea> its withholding me from using my raid controller = no hard drives
[17:25] <flea> ikonia: i know, but whats the command to not load a module
[17:25] <eax> Morning gents :) Today I installed Ubuntu 7,10 (Gutsy) on my girlfriends laptop, she wanted me to make it so she has a primary drive and a drive where she can store her files, I did so but now she can't write to the extra drive. Any ideas on what I can do?
[17:25] <ikonia> flea: just checking, I think it's ignore
[17:25] <Andril> does anyone have a recommendation on a low end AGP video card for Ubuntu - I have teh Geforce 5200 256 and its crap
[17:25] <ikonia> eax: permissions on the second drive ? wrong file system ?
[17:25] <flea> ikonia: this is the commonly known DL360 (cpqarray : sym53c8xx) issue
[17:25] <eax> ikonia: Yeah :) it's EXT3?
[17:25] <mw-home> is it possible to install firefox beta 3 side-by-side with firefox 2?
[17:25] <B-rabbit> erUSUL, nope
[17:25] <ikonia> flea I know it well
[17:26] <budluva> hi can someone help me out here, im trying to change a byte in a video clip in hexedit, but have no clue how do find this byte im supposed to change
[17:26] <erUSUL> B-rabbit: :|
[17:26] <ricanelite> how come does Miro closes on me out of no where
[17:26] <ikonia> eax change the permissiosns then ?
[17:26] <eax> ikonia: How? :)
[17:26] <ikonia> eax: chmod, chown, nautalus launched with a root shell ?
[17:26] <flea> ikonia: <module>.blacklist=true only results in syntax error
[17:27] <eTiger13> how can i tell if a cron job failed?
[17:27] <eax> ikonia: Haven't tried any of that before :/ What do I write in the terminal?
[17:27] <ikonia> eax: setup logging on it, or look in the cron log
[17:27] <ikonia> eax: man chmod and man chown,
[17:27] <eax> ikonia: Thanks :)
[17:27] <TheBills> hi
[17:27] <ikonia> eTiger13 look in the cron log
[17:27] <eTiger13> ikonia, where is that?
[17:28] <ikonia> eTiger13: /var/log
[17:28] <TheBills> does anyone have a problem with a weak signal when steaking internet from the neighbors?
[17:28] <TheBills> is there and antenna?
[17:28] <ikonia> TheBills please don't be pathetic and discuss things like that in here
[17:28] <TheBills> ok
[17:28] <TheBills> but its a reality
[17:28] <TheBills> open networks are public
[17:28] <ikonia> TheBills: I don't care, it's not for this channel
[17:29] <eTiger13> the_giver, ok but its also illegal
[17:29] <TheBills> ok ill stop
[17:29] <erUSUL> B-rabbit: it seems that  to convert to 3gp the thing is quite complex → ffmpeg -i video.avi-s qcif -vcodec h263 -acodec mp3 -ac 1 -ar 8000 -r 25 -ab 32 -y video.3gp
[17:29] <tortus> I still cant get evdev working. It worked all the time, then i booted up my pc today and my mouse wont move. X starts and if i cat /dev/input/eventX i see output, so evdev recognizes my devices, its just X wont deal with them
[17:29] <TheBills> which network cards work right out of the box on 7.10?
[17:30] <ikonia> !hcl > TheBills
[17:30] <erUSUL> B-rabbit: it seems that  to convert to 3gp the thing is quite complex → ffmpeg -i video.flv -s qcif -vcodec h263 -acodec mp3 -ac 1 -ar 8000 -r 25 -ab 32 -y video.3gp
[17:30] <ikonia> flea: what is the module name?
[17:30] <TheBills> hello?
[17:30] <ikonia> flea: as in the module thats causing you the problem
[17:30] <erUSUL> TheBills: ethernet ? almost anything
[17:30] <ikonia> TheBills: yes, hello
[17:30] <TheBills> wireless
[17:30] <Muhammad_Saad> Hello, I have installed an additional Urdu keyboard layout but cannot get it to appear in the "Layouts" section of "Keyboard Preferences". What should I do?
[17:30] <flea> ikonia: thx sym53c8xx
[17:30] <TheBills> most of them havent worked
[17:30] <ikonia> TheBills: read the link ubotu sent you
[17:31] <TheBills> using ndiswrapper?
[17:31] <ikonia> flea: and when you do, sym53c8xx.blacklist=true thats not working
[17:31] <tortus> What does "Unable to grab device (Device or resource busy)" tell me?
[17:31] <tortus> in Xorg.0.log
[17:31] <flea> TheBills: there are vast guides on just about all of them on google
[17:31] <ikonia> tortus: what are you doing
[17:31] <flea> ikonia: yes it d/regards the command as an error
[17:31] <eTiger13> ikonia, syslog would contain the cron job log right? i can see that it ran, but i dont know if the script ran successfully. how could i tell that?
[17:31] <TheBills> yes but they never work
[17:32] <ikonia> TheBills: then it's not supported, ubuntu can't be responsible for ndiswrapper/windows drivers
[17:32] <TheBills> ok
[17:32] <tortus> ikonia, im trying to get evdev back working. Stopped to work this day, somehow my mouse wont move
[17:32] <ikonia> eTiger13 you'd have to put error trapping in the script
[17:32] <ikonia> eTiger13: as cron just launches the script for you
[17:32] <TheBills> well there is one that works without any mods
[17:32] <flea> TheBills: if they dont work, how u suppose we're all using linux these days?
[17:32] <unop_> Muhammad_Saad, maybe this helps? http://ur.wikipedia.org/wiki/معاونت:Ubuntu_Linux_Localization
[17:33] <ricanelite> why is that the application im running like xchat where I set it to minimize to my system tray it does not appear
[17:33] <TheBills> do you put a .inf file a certain folder?
[17:33] <Christos> hi
[17:33] <unop_> Muhammad_Saad, also - www.urduweb.org/wiki/UbuntuLinux?show_comments=1
[17:33] <eTiger13> TheBills, have you ever considered it is your machine?
[17:33] <ikonia> TheBills: you write the file into a text file in that directory
[17:33] <iliya_> I'm folowing manual https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT61 but I have prob with step 'Configuring the connection'
[17:33] <ricanelite> also skype does the same i minimize skype and now it is gone but before it use to minimize to the system tray right by my clock
[17:34] <TheBills> well its an HP
[17:34] <erUSUL> TheBills: my conceptronic ralink rt2500pci worked out of the box and still is
[17:34] <TheBills> and the netggear USB adap works
[17:34] <iliya_> I'm conecting to public network and pass is 'mnnews' which is shorter than 8 char and I cant generate WPA Key using the following command: $ wpa_passphrase YOUR_SSID YOUR_PASSPHRASE
[17:34] <Christos> could somebody tell me how to install a wireless connection with a netgear WPN111 adaptor?
[17:34] <erUSUL> TheBills: but it may be hard to find nowadays
[17:34] <MORPHEU_ANTI-LAM> alguem de sao paulo?
[17:34] <fsk141> minifsk.com
[17:34] <TheBills> yeah ive nnver heard of hat
[17:34] <ikonia> TheBills what is your question ?
[17:34] <flea> bcm43xx         - hp
[17:34] <flea> works
[17:34] <TheBills> i wanna actaully improve the adapter
[17:35] <perrito666> sorry, a small question, is it some netinstall version of ubuntu?
[17:35] <ikonia> TheBills: you'll need to use a better driver or write one
[17:35] <jussio1> !install | perrito666
[17:35] <TheBills> it really just needs a stronger reciever
[17:35] <ubotu> perrito666: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[17:35] <iliya_> I'm folowing manual https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/RalinkRT61 but I have prob with step 'Configuring the connection'
[17:35] <iliya_> I'm conecting to public network and pass is 'mnnews' which is shorter than 8 char and I cant generate WPA Key using the following command: $ wpa_passphrase YOUR_SSID YOUR_PASSPHRASE
[17:35] <ikonia> TheBills: please stop discussing this, it's getting tedious now
[17:35] <iliya_> help :(
[17:35] <perrito666> jussio1: thanks
[17:35] <TheBills> ok
[17:35] <jussio1> :)
[17:35] <Christos> can i ask again?
[17:35] <TheBills> yes
[17:36] <eTiger13> iliya_, command line or gui?
[17:36] <QuickGold> How do I kill stopped jobs if I'm logged into a server via SSH?
[17:36] <B-rabbit> erUSUL, it didn't work but thnx anyway :) ...appreciate it
[17:36] <TheBills> how many people in this chat?
[17:36] <ikonia> QuickGold: find the job with ps, then use kill
[17:36] <Muhammad_Saad> Thanks unop_
[17:36] <eTiger13> QuickGold, you can use top
[17:36] <flea> QuickGold: jobs -l
[17:36] <iliya_> command line
[17:36] <ikonia> TheBills: over 1000, the channel is for support questions only
[17:36] <QuickGold> flea: ty
[17:36] <jussio1> !wireless | Christos
[17:36] <ubotu> Christos: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[17:36] <flea> QuickGold: np
[17:36] <Johnson> hey does anyone in here use floola actually get video to work
[17:37] <QuickGold> flea: I see a list of stopped jobs...how do I kill them now?
[17:37] <budluva> can someone lend a hand as how to use hexedit, im trying to change a byte in a video file
[17:37] <flea> QuickGold: apply kill -<code> to the pid
[17:37] <eTiger13> budluva, seriously?
[17:37] <QuickGold> flea: <code> being what?
[17:37] <ikonia> flea: I'm just going through this document http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/lkn/lkn_pdf/ch09.pdf and it is suggesting that the syntax is correct.
[17:37] <flea> QuickGold: kill -9 1234
[17:38] <QuickGold> flea: ty
[17:38] <flea> QuickGold: np
[17:38] <unop_> budluva, just one byte?
[17:38] <Christos> jussio yes
[17:38] <xZEXx> anyone know a good howto for firefox quicktime plugin in ubuntu 6.07?
[17:38] <killuats> hi all!
[17:38] <ikonia> xZEXx: there is no 6.07 version
[17:38] <Christos> the problem is i DON"T see a wireless connection option
[17:38] <ikonia> xZEXx: 6.10, 7.04, 7.10
[17:39] <xZEXx> sorry 6.10
[17:39] <ikonia> xZEXx: https://help.ubuntu.com search for restricted formats
[17:39] <killuats> im using ubuntu 7.10 and right now im running out of disk space, can i just delete all the contents of /var/backups or i still need to run an special application that does that?
[17:39] <ikonia> killuats: you can delete it
[17:39] <flea> ikonia i'll look it over but TY for the find
[17:39] <flea> ikonia: great doc to have on hand
[17:39] <killuats> ikonia: thanks.
[17:39] <ikonia> flea: it's big, I'm reading through it now
[17:39] <ikonia> flea: it's a good reference, for sure
[17:40] <budluva> unop_, yes
[17:40] <jussio1> Christos: did you see what I was pointing to?
[17:40] <budluva> hexedit video.h264 //I change the 67 64 00 33 byte to 67 64 00 29. This is to replace what h264info does to change the level from 5.1 to 4.1. According to MP4Box's analysis of the resulting mp4 the file is in fact seen as a 4.1 file.
[17:41] <budluva> unop_, i've tried to search for 67 64 00 33 in hexedit and it finds nothing
[17:41] <jussio1> Christos: you have a netgear wg111, correct?
[17:41] <TheBills> netgear wg111v2 works
[17:42] <TheBills> when will Ubuntu 8 be ready?
[17:42] <ikonia> TheBills: end of the month
[17:42] <budluva> TheBills, 17 days?
[17:42] <TheBills> cool
[17:42] <DJones> TheBills: 24th april
[17:42] <jussio1> 24th april.
[17:42] <TheBills> i wish i could make a program
[17:42] <jussio1> !ot | TheBills
[17:42] <ubotu> TheBills: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[17:43] <ikonia> TheBills: this is not a chat channell, as I've mentioned to you before
[17:43] <flea> ikonia, off to test again :/ i'll post results shortly ty again
[17:43] <ikonia> flea: be interesting
[17:43] <warmexxus> ouch
[17:43] <unop_> budluva, hmm, any chance you can dump this file in a pastebin?
[17:44] <budluva> unop_, which file?
[17:44] <eTiger13> budluva, what are you using to edit this?
[17:44] <budluva> hexedigt
[17:44] <budluva> hexedit
[17:45] <budluva> http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=689757
[17:45] <andre_> hi
[17:45] <ikonia> hi andre_
[17:45] <budluva> im converting an x264 mkv to mp4 so i can play on my xbox360, but x360 doesn't have support for 5.1, so apparently if i change the value of this certain byte the video file shows up as 4.1
[17:46] <budluva> but have no idea how to change a byte, and no clue how to use hexedit
[17:46] <OpenGuru> Hi. Can somebody tell me, is g++ -march=i386 is possible with 64bit machine
[17:47] <OpenGuru> @budluva,  you can recode the video with mencoder..
[17:47] <jkso> hi all
[17:47] <maek> 64-bit processors can do 32-bit OpenGuru
[17:47] <jkso> how can i config multiple desktop on ubuntu 7.10???
[17:47] <maek> hi jkso how are you
[17:48] <budluva> OpenGuru, i dont want to re-encode, just remux and put the mkv into an mp4 container
[17:48] <maek> what do you mean jkso ??
[17:48] <unop_> budluva, does this return anything?  hexdump video.h264 | grep -E "67.*64.*00.*33"
[17:48] <OpenGuru> @maek, but what are dependent libs
[17:48] <jkso> anyone can help me?
[17:48] <eTiger13> budluva, do you know what a mkv file is?
[17:48] <jussio1> jkso: like dual screen?
[17:48] <OpenGuru> @budluva, mencoder can do that..
[17:48] <OpenGuru> @budluva, just just video and audio codec as COPY
[17:48] <jkso> no no number of desktop
[17:48] <GradientMac> Guys, I'm a Mac user, and I'm just wondering how to boot Ubuntu as a live CD without effecting Mac OS X underneath- all I want to do is check out Ubuntu, I might install it on my school laptop if it's good enough to surpass Windows. I do NOT want it on my Mac though, I just want to see it on my Mac.
[17:49] <maek> like a cube jkso ??
[17:49] <jussio1> GradientMac: ppc or intel?
[17:49] <turdega> jkso, you should have a desktop chooser at the bottom right side of yoru screen by default, right click that and you can change the amount
[17:49] <GradientMac> Intel
[17:49] <OpenGuru> GradientMac, booting into live cd wont harm your hard disk
[17:49] <eTiger13> GradientMac, there should be a mac boot disk. it wont install unless you tell it to
[17:49] <jkso> yes i need 6 desktop
[17:49] <jkso> without compiz cube
[17:49] <GradientMac> Ok. Cool.
[17:49] <budluva> unop_, ya, i ll pastebin the results
[17:50] <GradientMac> How do I boot into the hard disk? I know I press option, do I press it directly after the chime?
[17:50] <jussio1> GradientMac: grab a standard live cd and boot it :)
[17:50] <genii> GradientMac: The livecd will not install anything unless you specifically run the "Install" on desktop. To boot cd on most Macs hold the C key down while booting
[17:50] <jkso> turdega: i close that bar for awn
[17:50] <budluva> eTiger13, mkv is hd stream no?
[17:50] <jkso> how can i do now?
[17:50] <budluva> OpenGuru, mencoder have a gui?
[17:50] <jussio1> GradientMac: note that the livecd will be somewhat slower than regular ubuntu
[17:50] <OpenGuru> budluva, yes..
[17:50] <GradientMac> I was told to hold the option key directly after the chime- is that correct?
[17:50] <budluva> OpenGuru, im not digging this hexediting command line shiat
[17:50] <OpenGuru> budluva, meGUI but its a windows app
[17:50] <budluva> bah
[17:51] <budluva> no native gui?
[17:51] <turdega> jkso,  okay
[17:51] <OpenGuru> budluva, all you need is this terminal command..
[17:51] <turdega> jkso, add to top panel "Workplace Switcher"
[17:51] <eTiger13> budluva, no, mkv is a video/audio container, not an actual codec
[17:51] <jussio1> budluva: vlc does simple transcoding.
[17:51] <budluva> unop_, ya that grep output just keeps spittin out numbers not stopping
[17:51] <OpenGuru> budluva, mencoder file.mkv -ovc copy -oac copy -o output.avi
[17:52] <tyler> WOOT! I've the wireless on my Vostro 1000 working!
[17:52] <jkso> done
[17:52] <unop_> budluva, maybe this then?  hexdump video.h264 | grep -E "67..64..00..33"
[17:52] <OpenGuru> budluva, http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mencoder_Introduction_Guide
[17:52] <jkso> now?
[17:52] <budluva> OpenGuru, ya i need to change the audio track to 4.1 or even stereo sound as xbox360 doesnt support 5.1 in avi's
[17:52] <GradientMac> Heh, guys, all I'm wondering is how to boot from a live CD. Do I just press option directly after the start up sound?
[17:52] <turdega> jkso, now right click on the workspace switcher and change the horizontal option to 6
[17:53] <jussio1> !yay | tyler
[17:53] <ubotu> tyler: Glad you made it! :-)
[17:53] <jussio1> GradientMac: do you know how to boot from any other cd?
[17:53] <GradientMac> no
[17:53] <OpenGuru> budluva, it will remux only.. it just copies everything..
[17:53] <jkso> ah ok ok thanks a lot turdega XD
[17:53] <tyler> GradientMac: Set the Boot sequence to your cd drive first
[17:53] <turdega> jkso, enjoy ^^
[17:53] <jussio1> GradientMac: as someone said, I think you hit c, but that could be wrong.
[17:53] <jkso> hi
[17:53] <eTiger13> GradientMac, i think you hold C
[17:53] <OpenGuru> budluva, change the oac to something else say mp3
[17:53] <GradientMac> Directly after the chime?
[17:53] <jussio1> yes
[17:53] <GradientMac> Ok I'll try
[17:53] <GradientMac> see ya.
[17:53] <tyler> jussio1: Now I just need the code for the brightness settings
[17:54] <n-iCe> how can I remove a program completly I want to remove wine, with all the folders files created
[17:54] <OpenGuru> can somebody say what is wrong here ? gcc program01.c -march=i386            does not support x86-64 instruction s
[17:54] <OpenGuru> program01.c:1: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set
[17:54] <tyler> n-iCe: hunt them down in tracker
[17:54] <n-iCe> tyler,  uh? how is that
[17:54] <ikonia> OpenGuru your cpu is not 64bit os
[17:54] <OpenGuru> budluva, mencoder movie.wmv -o movie.avi -ovc copy -oac mp3lame
[17:54] <budluva> openguru, got to 3% and then it stops with an err
[17:55] <OpenGuru> budluva, what is the error ?
[17:55] <tyler> n-iCe, use your Tracker tool in the Accessories menu to hunt all of your known installations down
[17:55] <OpenGuru> ikonia, i am in 64bit machine. OS is also 64. i am trying to compile for i386 arch
[17:55] <unop_> OpenGuru, you trying to cross compile?
[17:55] <jals> if i install the latest hardy beta will i be able to upgrade it when the full release comes out or will it require downloading a new cd and upgrading/installing
[17:55] <OpenGuru> unop_, yes
[17:55] <ikonia> OpenGuru: thats cross-compiling
[17:56] <budluva> open well that second command you gave me seems to be working
[17:56] <budluva> hold on
[17:56] <ikonia> OpenGuru: is your gcc compiler multi-lib
[17:56] <OpenGuru> unop_, ikonia, you are righ..
[17:56] <eTiger13> jals itll upgrade
[17:56] <OpenGuru> ikonia, sorry.. but how to check that.. ?
[17:56] <ikonia> OpenGuru: is it the ubuntu gcc ?
[17:57] <jals> eTiger13, great, thanks
[17:57] <OpenGuru> ikonia, yes. . taken from ubuntu repo
[17:57] <ikonia> OpenGuru: then it's not multi-lib
[17:57] <MarcinO> eh, updating :| is there gonna be 100mb update every day?  I'm sick of that....
[17:57] <OpenGuru> ikonia, i need the multi-lib ? do i need to compile gcc now ?
[17:57] <beast> hello
[17:58] <turdega> MarcinO, are you running Hardy?
[17:58] <beast> can anyone tell me the shell command for system update
[17:58] <Pici> MarcinO: You should only be getting that if you are running Hardy, and in that case, you should be expecting that.
[17:58] <OpenGuru> budluva, u there ? how is it going on..
[17:58] <JasonWoof> beast: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[17:58] <ikonia> OpenGuru: you need a full 32bit lib and 64bit environment, you then need to build a bootstrapper gcc that is multi-lib, then use that to build a multi-lib gcc
[17:58] <beast> one of those commands?
[17:58] <OpenGuru> beast, sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[17:59] <MarcinO> Pici: i am running it (: and i recon it's quite better that gutsy. but updating every day is quite boring
[17:59] <budluva> OpenGuru, 31%
[17:59] <Pici> !hardy | MarcinO
[17:59] <ubotu> MarcinO: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[17:59] <JasonWoof> beast: update updates the list of stuff that can be installed, upgrade upgrades all installed packages that have updates available
[17:59] <recon> geh, stupid false alarms.
[17:59] <OpenGuru> ikonia, thanks.. I actually need to it for Zoto uploader compilation.. they have hardcoded thing for i386. I need hack..
[17:59] <arvind_khadri> bazhang, hey my x jus restarted it happened twice
[17:59] <OpenGuru> budluva, enjoy.. and  bye..
[17:59] <MarcinO> Pici: yes, i know what it is (:
[18:00] <ikonia> OpenGuru: enjoy, if something is hardcoded for 32bit, I suspect you won't get it working 64bit
[18:00] <JasonWoof> I have a laptop with windows booted off the ubuntu hardy livecd, a very large external harddrive, and experience using linux. How can I back up the entire laptop hard drive such that:
[18:00] <budluva> OpenGuru, so your saying the resulting avi will be playable on x360? cause as far as ive read it wont except x264 5.1 audio, so i have to change the audio track to stereo
[18:00] <JasonWoof> 1) I can restore the HD completely (ever after it's reformatted)
[18:00] <arvind_khadri>  hey my x jus restarted it happened twice
[18:00] <OpenGuru> ikonia, thanks for helping.. let me check..
[18:00] <ikonia> JasonWoof: how do you have windows booted from an ubuntu livecd ?
[18:00] <turdega> MarcinO, once hardy goes stable it will chill out on all those updates.  in the mean time keep updating and reporting any bugs you find
[18:00] <JasonWoof> and 2) I can get individual files out of the backup using linux
[18:00] <turdega> but i must agree hardy is pretty amazing even at this point
[18:00] <OpenGuru> budluva, mp3 uses stereo for audio,, there is no 5.1 support
[18:01] <JasonWoof> I have a laptop with windows which is  booted off the ubuntu hardy livecd, a very large external harddrive, and experience using linux. How can I back up the entire laptop hard drive such that:
[18:01] <|Dede|> I send myself an email, using "mail user", how can I open and read it?
[18:01] <MarcinO> turdega: there's quite a lot of that. my computer even freezes sometimes. and only 'reset' can help it ;/
[18:01] <ikonia> JasonWoof: dd the hard disk ?
[18:01] <OpenGuru> bye all..
[18:02] <beast> ok
[18:02] <JasonWoof> ikonia: sounds fun. I'm assuming I could easily restore that. but can I mount the image as well?
[18:02] <budluva> OpenGuru, so your using mencode to copy the video track, and copy the audio track and convert it to mp3? w/ mp3lame
[18:02] <ikonia> JasonWoof: no, it's not an image
[18:02] <ikonia> JasonWoof: you could restore it, by dd'ing it back very eas
[18:02] <ikonia> easy
[18:02] <turdega> MarcinO, yeah I've been having some freezes happening in the gnome panel and some issues with compiz overall awesome experience though it will really rock once it goes live
[18:02] <beast> is that possible to update the version of ubuntu I am using to the new 8.04 beta version without installing it from the live cd
[18:02] <beast> ??
[18:02] <ikonia> !hardy > beast
[18:03] <JasonWoof> ikonia: right. is there some format I can use that will be able to restore like that and be mountable?
[18:03] <ikonia> beast: see the link from ubotu
[18:03] <|Dede|> I send myself an email, using "mail user", how can I open and read it?
[18:03] <beast> link
[18:03] <ikonia> JasonWoof: make an iso file system and copy it onto it ?
[18:03] <ikonia> |Dede|: type "mail"
[18:03] <JasonWoof> beast: you should be able to use the "update manager" from your existing ubuntu install
[18:03] <JasonWoof> beast: I haven't needed a CD to upgrade from 7.4 then 7.10, then 8.4beta
[18:03] <|Dede|> ikonia: and after that?
[18:03] <ikonia> |Dede|: nothing
[18:04] <ikonia> |Dede|: that should display your mail
[18:04] <|Dede|> there is a list
[18:04] <ikonia> |Dede|: each number is a mail messsage
[18:04] <|Dede|> ikonia there is a list of 2 mail? how do I select one
[18:04] <turdega> join #unemployment
[18:04] <|Dede|> *mails
[18:04] <MarcinO> turdega: only in gnome panel and compiz?I had that before but now I have complete freezes - even music is freezing.
[18:04] <ikonia> |Dede|: press one or two
[18:04] <beast> ok, it means if i udate the packges it will upgrade the version to the 8.04 beta
[18:04] <ikonia> beast: read the link form ubotu
[18:04] <Pici> This is not the channel for 8.04 discussion.
[18:04] <beast> ok
[18:04] <Pici> : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Hardy/8.04 support/discussion.
[18:04] <JasonWoof> beast: I don't know how to update to a new ubuntu release on the cmdline
[18:05] <turdega> !hardy | beast
[18:05] <ubotu> beast: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:05] <turdega> MarcinO, if you are having extended issues with Hardy you might want to check #ubuntu+1 also
[18:06] <ikonia> turdega: it says it in the link you've just posted
[18:06] <Exteris> what would be the fastest/best way to virtualize a windows install on my other disk?
[18:06] <turdega> ikonia, indeed =)
[18:06] <Exteris> *boot in a virtual machine
[18:07] <tbielawa> Exteris: have you loked into virtualbox?
[18:07] <MarcinO> how can i remove whole kde4 whole hardy leaving few apps and a shiny-new theme for qt4 ?
[18:07] <n-iCe> I can't eject my cdrom, says error, how can I force it?????
[18:07] <StucKman> hi all. is there any way to install *buntu from a usb stick?
[18:07] <Exteris> tbielawa, i have tried, couldn't get it to work though, i'm now looking at KVM
[18:07] <StucKman> or do a net-install?
[18:07] <jussio1> !install | StucKman
[18:07] <ubotu> StucKman: Ubuntu can be installed in a lot of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall. Don't want to use a CD? Try http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate
[18:07] <Pici> !usb | StucKman
[18:07] <ubotu> StucKman: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[18:08] <kane77> I somehow borked my X.. each time I boot it gives me error saying something is wrong with X and that I should configure it (the error dialog is GUI not the terminal one) after which I am taken to the 'Screens and Graphics' dialog (that's where I messed and broken it as I was trying to configure second screen)
[18:08] <StucKman> Pici: tx
[18:08] <StucKman> jussio1: ditto
[18:08] <GradientMac> I can oficially say that I like Ubuntu's interface much more then WIndows.
[18:08] <n-iCe> I can't eject my cdrom, says error, how can I force it?????
[18:09] <rwycuff> kane77:try a terminal with no X running and just run Xorg --configure
[18:09] <OpenGuru> anyone here who has compiled Zotouploader ?
[18:09] <budluva> openguru, ok the resulting movie.avi doesnt play in totem
[18:09] <turdega> n-iCe, if you need to get the disc out quickly then use a paperclip on eject hole on the bezel of the drive
[18:09] <GradientMac> Ubuntu is going on my school laptop!
[18:09] <GradientMac> =]
[18:09] <tbielawa> n-iCe: sudo eject /dev/cdrom
[18:09] <budluva> openguru, nothing in vlc either, no video or audio
[18:10] <DKong> is it normal for ubuntu 8.04 to have 100 updates every few days?
[18:10] <bnex10> hello i need help with tcl
[18:10] <n-iCe> tbielawa,  thanks, says it is busy how can I stop it?
[18:10] <kane77> rwycuff, no, that's a different error I guess... in the graphics card tab of Screen and Graphics preferences it gives me two graphics cards (??) one is mine (intel and second one is vesa)
[18:10] <turdega> !hardy | DKong
[18:10] <ubotu> DKong: Hardy Heron is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS), due April 24, 2008 - For more info, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardyHeron - CONSIDER IT TO BE BETA SOFTWARE - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1, NOT #ubuntu
[18:10] <crunchybumble> anyone here ever used testdisk to recover lost data, and wouldn't mind lending their expertise?
[18:10] <arvind_khadri> n-iCe, use cdtools
[18:10] <budluva> OpenGuru, no video, there is audio though
[18:10] <tbielawa> n-iCe: you may need to unmount it. try running sudo umount -l /dev/cdrom && sudo eject /dev/cdrom
[18:11] <OpenGuru> budluva, do this.. open terminal..
[18:11] <DKong> oops ok thank you
[18:11] <rwycuff> kane77:the option for vesa is in every install and the Xorg --configure command should auto detect all your hardware and get it working again
[18:11] <OpenGuru> budluva, mplayer file.avi
[18:11] <OpenGuru> budluva, tell the error msg..
[18:12] <JasonWoof> ikonia: thanks for the backup suggestions. Do I need to pass any special options to dd? or just if=/dev/sdwhatever of=/mnt/huge_drive/dd_image
[18:12] <budluva> xscreensaver_disable: Could not find XScreenSaver window.
[18:12] <StucKman> Pici: this does not work with feisty, does it? the vfat fs is not supported in casper's kernel...
[18:13] <Pici> StucKman: I'm not sure, sorry :/
[18:13] <GradientMac> Thanks guys for helping me with the live CD, you made my school laptop a switcher! =] My Mac will stay though =] I like Mac OS X too much.
[18:13] <kane77> rwycuff, okay.. will try it
[18:13] <unop_> JasonWoof, you could up the blocksize a bit so you get an optimal performance  bs=8192
[18:13] <genii> JasonWoof: Without options dd will do byte at a time, you can use ibs and obs options to specify larger chunks
[18:13] <GradientMac> Isn't Mac OS X a type of linux anyway?
[18:13] <GradientMac> Well Unix?
[18:13] <JasonWoof> unop_, genii: thanks!
[18:14] <genii> GradientMac: No, it's a derivative of BSD which is derived of Unix
[18:14] <OpenGuru> GradientMac, you can make ur ubuntu look like Mac..
[18:14] <kane77> GradientMac, not really.. it's more of bsd sort of thing afaik
[18:14] <budluva> OpenGuru, aprrently i dont have Xv enabled
[18:14] <OpenGuru> GradientMac, check howtoforge if u want this..
[18:14] <GradientMac> It's no the looks that I need.
[18:14] <GradientMac> I like the Ubuntu gnome looks
[18:14] <OpenGuru> budluva, install.. and try again..
[18:14] <GradientMac> But I like the way the interface works.
[18:14] <GradientMac> I like the dock
[18:14] <OpenGuru> GradientMac, good.. best of luck..
[18:14] <GradientMac> I like the applications
[18:14] <GradientMac> I just like my Mac!
[18:14] <FloodBot1> GradientMac: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:14] <GradientMac> Thanks guys!
[18:15] <unop> genii, i think the default is bs=512 not a byte at a time
[18:15] <OpenGuru> bye..
[18:15] <kane77> rwycuff, should I run it as root?
[18:16] <rwycuff> kane77:yes it needs to be run as root
[18:16] <alex101> Hi, i'm trying to open a .exe file, though its a setup file for Need for speed carbon and im trying to use wine to run it and when i right click and press open with wine, nothing happens.
[18:18] <alex101> Hi, i'm trying to open a .exe file, though its a setup file for Need for speed carbon and im trying to use wine to run it and when i right click and press open with wine, nothing happens
[18:18] <jeezyme> hey guys, how do i choose a repository source so that the downloads are quicker?
[18:18] <rwycuff> alex101: try running from command line and if that does work check with #wine
[18:18] <alex101> How do i run from command line?
[18:18] <budluva> openguru, if i go mplayer file.avi -vo x11 it works though
[18:18] <jermain> hi everyone
[18:18] <kindofabuzz> looking for a proftpd guru =)
[18:18] <jermain> my external hd has permission issues
[18:18] <arvind_khadri> jeezyme, edit ur etc/apt/sources.list
[18:18] <jermain> it says i only have read acces
[18:18] <arvind_khadri> jeezyme, edit ur  /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:19] <jermain> and i cant change the permissions
[18:19] <rwycuff> alex101 run "man wine" and it will tell you wine <options> *.exe
[18:19] <jeezyme> thanks
[18:19] <alex101> where do i run man wine? lmao, i've only been using linux for 2 month's.
[18:19] <budluva> openguru, so i can just burn this .avi and it should play on xbox no?
[18:20] <arvind_khadri> alex101, in the terminal ,Alt+F2 then type gnome-terminal
[18:21] <kindofabuzz> 2 months you should no where to type commands in
[18:21] <jermain> can anyone tell me how to change the permissions on my external hd?
[18:21] <jeezyme> now, how do i know which source is faster? any script/app for finding that out?
[18:21] <alex101> I've typed man wine in on terminal, now what?
[18:21] <danbhfive> jermain: how is the drive being mounted?
[18:21] <arvind_khadri> alex101, read it,
[18:21] <rwycuff> alex101:understand...ive been using for 10 + years and once you get use to it its linux or unix and nothing else
[18:21] <jermain> it was mounted automatically
[18:22]  * delcoyote hi
[18:22] <danbhfive> jermain: is there a line in your fstab file for it?
[18:22] <jermain> i formatted it minutes ago to ext3
[18:22] <jermain> i dont think so
[18:22] <alex101> o_o Nice
[18:22] <rwycuff> alex101: yuo know how to open the terminal right
[18:22] <jermain> wait lemme check
[18:22] <alex101> Yeah.
[18:22] <alex101> It said for gui files wich is windows install files to use wineconsole
[18:22] <alex101> How do i use that?
[18:23] <arvind_khadri> alex101, use the terminal for tat
[18:23] <n3o> irc://irc.freenode.net/ubuntu-fr
[18:23] <arvind_khadri> alex101, it may be wineconsole <filename>
[18:23] <rwycuff> alex101:open the terminal and type "wine  /path/to /exe
[18:23] <arvind_khadri> alex101, you have the man pages not we
[18:23] <jermain> danbhfive: /.fstab or ~/fstab?
[18:24] <unop> jermain, sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /path/to/mountpoint;  # < ought to do the trick
[18:24] <alex101> How do i direct the path if the install is on a disk?
[18:24] <jeezyme> how to edit the sources.list file to made the downloads quicker??
[18:24] <danbhfive> jermain: /etc/fstab
[18:25] <jermain> k
[18:25] <Gilou> !aptfix
[18:25] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[18:25] <arvind_khadri> jeezyme, the downloads are quick only...maybe the speed at ur end is slow
[18:26] <antonio1984> ola
[18:26] <jermain> danbhfive, theres no line for it. unop; what does that do?
[18:26] <arvind_khadri> jeezyme, or else remove the un=neccessary repo's
[18:26] <jeezyme> well, different mirrors might have different speeds rite?
[18:26] <n-iCe> what means there is no a new / at the end of etc/fstab , when I try to reject my cd rom?
[18:26] <unop> jermain, make you the owner of all files/directories on the drive
[18:26] <antonio1984> boa tarde alguem de que fale português está online?
[18:26] <alex101> wine /usr/alex/nfscarbon/setup.exe
[18:27] <alex101> I typed that
[18:27] <arvind_khadri> jeezyme, have u enabled all the repo's
[18:27] <alex101> and it didnt work
[18:27] <jermain> k thanks
[18:27] <rwycuff> alex101: type whereis NAME OF EXE and that will show yuo its path
[18:27] <alex101> alex@ubuntu:~$ whereis setup.exe
[18:27] <alex101> setup:
[18:27] <antonio1984> alguem pode ajudar-me?
[18:27] <alex101> thats what it said. :/
[18:28] <Pici> !pt | antonio1984
[18:28] <ubotu> antonio1984: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt para ajuda em português. Obrigado.
[18:28] <kane77> rwycuff, that did it I guess.. but the scroll zone on touchpad doesn't work now
[18:28] <danbhfive> jermain: my guess would be to add a line to your fstab file, use the UUID as the id, set it up probably similar to the way your cdrom is listed, and then set an appropriate umask
[18:28] <antonio1984> ok obrigado
[18:29] <alex101> alex@ubuntu:~$ whereis setup.exe
[18:29] <alex101> setup:
[18:29] <alex101> it said that.
[18:29] <rwycuff> kane77:thats somethinng that pry doesnt get auto detected causer its custom type feature like the 3 button emulation in X try googleing it and see what yuou find pry just string needed in the Xorg.conf
[18:30] <kane77> rwycuff, okay, thanx a lot
[18:30] <unop> danbhfive, mount does not recognize umask options for extX filesystems
[18:30] <rwycuff> alex101:ok try locate setup.exe and see what happens
[18:30] <jermain> unop; it worked!
[18:30] <danbhfive> unop: ok, didnt know that
[18:30] <n-iCe> How do I kill all the running proccesses?
[18:30] <jermain> dan, thank you for your help too
[18:30] <alex101> alex@ubuntu:~$ locate setup.exe
[18:30] <alex101> alex@ubuntu:~$
[18:31] <jermain> xD
[18:31] <alex101> that happened o_o
[18:31] <arvind_khadri> n-iCe, try killing init
[18:31] <n-iCe> arvind_khadri,  kill init ?
[18:31] <Exteris> alex101, sudo updatedb ?
[18:31] <n-iCe> how?
[18:31] <arvind_khadri> n-iCe, well i think u cant kill all the processes
[18:31] <sbox> hello all, I've downloaded open office 2.4 from the OO site, it's lots of deb files how do I go about installing it?
[18:31] <jermain> unop: will i have to give this command every time i mount the disk or is this a one time command?
[18:31] <Exteris> n-iCe, what do you want to do?
[18:31] <arvind_khadri> n-iCe, init is the parent of all processes
[18:32] <aguitel> what is the difference between main server and other servers?
[18:32] <Exteris> jermain, add it to fstab
[18:32] <n-iCe> arvind_khadri,  at least the one is using my cd rom, because I cannot reject it, says is busy
[18:32] <n-iCe> Exteris,  that
[18:32] <dtolj> n-iCe: ps -axjf then kill -9 <the PID>
[18:32] <unop> jermain, shouldn't be necessary
[18:32] <bottiger> I'm trying to set up apache to run on port 81, but it doesn't work. Does Ubuntu come with some kind of firewall?
[18:32] <alex101> Exteris i'm on that now.
[18:32] <bottiger> (apache doesn't write any errors)
[18:32] <alex101> and its blank.
[18:32] <Exteris> bottiger, /etc/apache2/sites-available
[18:32] <jermain> Exteris, unop: thank guys, Iĺl just remember the code in case.
[18:33] <arvind_khadri> n-iCe, use the gui present in system->admin for killing the process u want
[18:33] <Adys> Is it possible to modify theme images directly somewhere without installing a new theme?
[18:33] <n-iCe> dtolj,  done, how can I know which one is the cdrom procces?
[18:33] <Exteris> Adys, /usr/share/themes ~/.themes
[18:33] <Adys> cheers
[18:33] <dtolj> n-iCe: pstree is another good command to view process list in a tree view
[18:33] <Exteris> n-iCe, educated guess?
[18:33] <alex101> Nothings happening when i type sudo updatedb
[18:34] <Exteris> alex101, now retype the locate command
[18:34] <dtolj> n-iCe: hmm what program were you running k3b?
[18:34] <alex101> alex@ubuntu:~$ locate setup.exe
[18:34] <alex101> alex@ubuntu:~$
[18:34] <alex101> does that again.
[18:34] <Exteris> alex101, then you can assume that it's not there :P
[18:34] <budluva> openguru, i burnt movie.avi to a disc and tried to play in xbox, not supported
[18:34] <unitedroad> HI all
[18:34] <danand> alex101 - did you allow the sudo updatedb command to complete?
[18:34] <alex101> Well its on the disk thats in my laptop xD
[18:34] <alex101> yes.
[18:34] <alex101> Well it just went blanl
[18:34] <alex101> k*
[18:35] <FloodBot1> alex101: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:35] <n-iCe> dtolj,  which one should I kill: http://www.aksdkasdasd.pastebin.com/m4e5650e9
[18:35] <n-iCe> arvind_khadri, : http://www.aksdkasdasd.pastebin.com/m4e5650e9
[18:35] <FloodBot1> n-iCe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:35] <Exteris> alex101, find / | grep -i setup.exe
[18:35] <unitedroad> I need some help with the new user creation
[18:35] <alex101> alex@ubuntu:~$ grep -i setup.exe
[18:35] <bottiger> Exteris: I know, I just copjust copied the default file and changed the port to 81
[18:35] <alex101> staying blank now lol
[18:36] <jcleong> hi, i just changed some variables in /etc/environment is there a way to make this go in effect without restarting my machine?
[18:36] <aguitel> what is the difference between main server and other servers?
[18:36] <dtolj> n-iCe: what are you trying to kill i dont understand ?
[18:36] <Pici> aguitel: location.
[18:36] <Exteris> bottiger, there may be some other things to do, like restarting apache2 with sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[18:36] <danand> alex101 - that may take a while :)
[18:36] <unitedroad> I created a new user on ubuntu but when I login using this user , Ubuntu fails to show any sound device
[18:36] <n-iCe> dtolj,  I want to reject my cdrom,  my disc says it is busy, something is using it, how can I know and kill it I need to get the cd
[18:36] <aguitel> Pici: only?
[18:36] <FloodBot1> usuario: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:36] <n-iCe> I am trying to install a game then it asked me for the disc 2, but I can't reject it, dtolj
[18:36] <alex101> danand, whats it doing exactly?
[18:37] <unitedroad> while if I login from my original user or through root, the sound works find
[18:37] <Pici> aguitel: If you're talking about mirrors. yes.
[18:37] <Exteris> n-iCe, sudo umount /media/cdrom
[18:37] <n-iCe> Exteris,  error, is busy
[18:37] <dtolj> n-iCe: you have to umount it first before you can 'eject' it
[18:37] <meltra_> one month without booting in to windows ... where do I collect my red chip ?
[18:37] <bottiger> Exteris: I have done that
[18:37] <danand> alex101 - updating the database locate uses to quickly find files
[18:37] <n-iCe> dtolj, I can't
[18:37] <MrBumblebee> is this dalnet?
[18:37] <aguitel> Pici: in software sources
[18:37] <Exteris> meltra_, do i get a black one for not booting into it for 1 year ?
[18:37] <danielwelch> Hi - any RHYTHMBOX experts to help with adding MP3 as a Rip format (I want to add 2, CD and Voice)
[18:38] <Exteris> bottiger, nothing in errorlog? strange if so
[18:38] <n-iCe> Exteris,  I can't either
[18:38] <alex101> Ah okay.
[18:38] <Exteris> n-iCe, --force or something?
[18:38] <Pici> aguitel: Yes, the only difference is location.  They get the same packages mirrored to them, but some may be faster for you if you are physically closer to them.
[18:38] <jcleong> is there anyway to make the changes in /etc/environment take effect without restarting?
[18:38] <rwycuff> danielwelch:the lame encoder should do botht hat for you
[18:39] <dtolj> n-iCe: you Exteris is right try force flag
[18:39] <aguitel> Pici: thankz
[18:39] <danielwelch> rwycuff: thanks - can I start private chat?
[18:39] <Sych0> hey all, i'm having issues with install, i'm hoping someone knows how to fix. Problem is when i install, and it gets to the part where it sets up the partitions, it doesn't recognize my SATA HDD and says there's no decives installed.
[18:40] <rwycuff> danielwelch:im rather busy but go for it
[18:40] <bottiger> Exteris: nothing in the error-log :/
[18:42] <h0ax> can anyone tell me what the problem is here : ./lib/rex/socket/ssl_tcp_server.rb:4:in `require': no such file to load -- openssl (LoadError)
[18:42]  * meltra_ hands Exteris his black chip and a botle of red wine
[18:42] <Pici> h0ax: Perhaps you should be asking that in #rubylang ?  (That is ruby, right?)
[18:42] <geronimaldo> Exteris should share the wine
[18:43] <h0ax> yeah. but i'm compiling it in ubuntu so i'm asking here
[18:43] <unitedroad> I created a new user on ubuntu but when I login using this user , Ubuntu fails to show any sound device
[18:43] <unitedroad> while if I login from my original user or through root, the sound works find
[18:43] <unitedroad> please someone help me with it
[18:43] <Pici> unitedroad: Add the user to the sound group
[18:43] <Drefsab> hi guys quick question I've installed exim4 (on my lan for learning purposes) and it seams the conf file is update-exim4.conf.conf can I just rename this to exim4.conf and restart the service and have it work?
[18:43] <PurpZeY> How can I determine which one of my harddrives is hda and which is hdb...One of them has an NTFS system on it. I want to install to the other one...
[18:43] <geronimaldo> what he said.. add to sound group
[18:43] <unitedroad> cool
[18:43] <unitedroad>  thanks alot
[18:43] <nickwebcoukok> quickie - i have an ipod that i couldnt write to when it automounted, so I changed the automount options (by right clicking it on the desktop), and now i cant get it to automount at all. how can i reset the options i set?
[18:44] <h0ax> there's only one person in rubylang
[18:44] <pipegeek> Kay, so..... I've got openoffice.org-style-human installed.  How do I actually apply said style?  Openoffice is still showing up with it's default, kind of ugly appearance
[18:44] <rwycuff> PurpZey:do you know which one is plugged in as pri master
[18:44] <Pici> h0ax: Sorry, its #ruby-lang
[18:44] <PurpZeY> rwycuff: No. I wish I did.
[18:44] <Exteris> okay, wine for everybody, it probably wont be much though
[18:45] <Exteris> !wine | everybody
[18:45] <ubotu> everybody: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.
[18:45] <Exteris> !redwine | everybody :P
[18:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about redwine - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:45] <rwycuff> PurpZeY:then you would have to mount them to find out what is what
[18:46] <geronimaldo> Exteris haha
[18:46] <unitedroad> hey everyone thanks alot
[18:46] <unitedroad> I am out of here
[18:46] <Pici> !botabuse | Exteris please stop
[18:46] <ubotu> Exteris please stop: Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubotu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids.
[18:46] <geronimaldo> rwycuff parted as root can determine the filesystem of unmounted hds. . ?
[18:46] <unitedroad> take care everyone
[18:46] <fiXXXerMet> Could someone help me figure out why I'm getting "Bus error"s?  I have some debugging information and a bug report that I can show you.
[18:46] <rwycuff> true good idea
[18:47] <PurpZeY> geronimaldo: so run gparted from terminal?
[18:47] <meltra_> dho I'm part of GA keep wine as in the program out off here please, nothing more frustrating then dreaming about games on linux
[18:47] <geronimaldo> just parted. gparted brings up the gui program
[18:47] <meglaw> how do i start programs in my currently logged in X sesson? like 'vlc -f http cool-move.avi'
[18:48] <geronimaldo> PurpZeY: parted as root
[18:48] <geronimaldo> and use the print command
[18:48] <thierry> hi, my ubuntu is in another langage than english, how can I output a shell command in english?
[18:48] <StucKman> thierry: LC_ALL=C <command>
[18:49] <xx0xx> hello i changed my hostname now i having problem.. sudo: unable to lookup x0x.shellhosts.net via gethostbyname()
[18:49] <PurpZeY> geronimaldo: The information following "hda:" will be the information for that drive I assume?
[18:50] <xx0xx> how do i fix this problem now?
[18:50] <geronimaldo> PurpZeY yep. 1 = hda
[18:51] <n-iCe> is back
[18:51] <geronimaldo> PurpZeY: wait thats a rotten lie
[18:51] <cirkit_> hi ... is Linux hard?
[18:51] <linux60284> i can't find any programs to any ports on ubuntu, can someone help me
[18:51] <geronimaldo> PurpZeY: parted will select a hard disk. and then the printed command will show the filesystem(s) on that disk
[18:51] <c0ldfusion> cirkit, mine is
[18:51] <h0ax> cirkit_:  lol
[18:52] <PurpZeY> geronimaldo: That works though. If that drive has NTFS on it, that can't be the drive I want.
[18:52] <cirkit_> where can I buy Ubuntu?
[18:52] <Pici> !downlaod | cirkit_
[18:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about downlaod - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:52] <geronimaldo> to change the hard disk use e.g select /dev/hdb and print that one out
[18:52] <Pici> !download | cirkit_
[18:52] <ubotu> cirkit_: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://nl.releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive - PLEASE use the !torrents to download Gutsy, and help keeping the servers' load low!
[18:52] <dryrot> post your CC
[18:52] <c0ldfusion> cirkit_ hang on I'll give you my paypal account
[18:52] <h0ax> c0ldfusion:  forl
[18:52] <h0ax> rofl*
[18:52] <linux60284> i can't find any programs to any ports on ubuntu, can someone help me
[18:52] <c0ldfusion> lol
[18:52] <linux60284> *bind
[18:52] <meltra_> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/purchase
[18:52] <n-iCe> cirkit,  it is free :)
[18:52] <Pici> cirkit_: Ubuntu is free
[18:52] <PurpZeY> geronimaldo: My secondary issue is that I booted into the LiveCD via safe graphics mode...I have to fix my drivers once I install, will I be able to do that?
[18:52] <cirkit_> does Ubuntu include notepad.exe?
[18:53] <nickwebcoukok> quickie - i have an ipod that i couldnt write to when it automounted, so I changed the automount options (by right clicking it on the desktop), and now i cant get it to automount at all. how can i reset the options i set?
[18:53] <n-iCe> cirkit, wine includes it
[18:53] <linux60284> i can't bind ssh, or any program below or above 1024 as user or root
[18:53] <geronimaldo> PurpZeY: ive never had that problem. if the system fails to load xserver you´ll hav to install the drivers from the command line.
[18:54] <geronimaldo> PurpZeY: i´dask that question to the room again. guys...
[18:54] <PurpZeY> geronimaldo: How can I make parted look at the other drive?
[18:54] <sparr_> my home LAN has an IP address range that overlaps that of a VPN that I am connecting to, how can I remap one of them?
[18:55] <linux60284> geronimaldo: change the /dev/sda to /dev/sdb, its a dropdown
[18:55] <geronimaldo> PurpZeY if it´s hdb then ; select /ev/hdb
[18:55] <linux60284> sparr_: go to your router, https://<IP_ADDRESS> probably, and change the submask to <IP_ADDRESS>/255
[18:55] <vf123> !encrypt
[18:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about encrypt - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[18:55] <|Dede|> How can you unban an IP/host that Fail2Ban has banned?
[18:55] <HardyHeron> aguitel:    thats a workaround correct..  not a fix
[18:56] <sparr_> linux60284: no
[18:56] <c0ldfusion> linux60284, that's <IP_ADDRESS> if you want class C
[18:56] <fantaman> ciao
[18:56] <aguitel> HardyHeron: it work in my pc
[18:56] <fantaman> a tutti
[18:56] <fantaman> sorry
[18:56] <linux60284> well, the router will most likely have a button to select <IP_ADDRESS>, <IP_ADDRESS>, or <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:56] <PurpZeY> geronimaldo: Could not start device hdb - No such file or directory. But It is hdb
[18:56] <vf123> I am interested in encrypting my /home directory.  Is there any reason why I should not do this?  And can you suggest any software that works well for it?
[18:56] <sparr_> i dont want to change my IP
[18:57] <HardyHeron> aguitel:    i ended up uninstalling the 2 issues.. now i have no email icon
[18:57] <PurpZeY> geronimaldo: I ran select /dev/hdb
[18:57] <c0ldfusion> sparr_, what do you mean by overlapping
[18:57] <HardyHeron> and something funny is going on
[18:57] <aguitel> HardyHeron: try change in software sorces to the main server and make update & upgrade
[18:57] <sparr_> c0ldfusion: they both use 192.168.1.xxx
[18:57] <geronimaldo> yep..
[18:57] <HardyHeron> i do sudo apt-get install wireshark
[18:57] <HardyHeron> says cant find host
[18:57] <cirkit_> hi ... can I hack the planet if I install Linux?
[18:57] <kane77> after doing Xorg -configure my touchpad doesn't work anymore, specifically the scroll zone...
[18:57] <linux60284> sparr_ my modem uses <IP_ADDRESS> and my modem uses <IP_ADDRESS>
[18:57] <linux60284> both work fine
[18:58] <HardyHeron> aguitel:   good ised
[18:58] <HardyHeron> idea
[18:58] <c0ldfusion> sparr_, so you have a vpn from your machine with that same address on the other side?
[18:58] <aguitel> HardyHeron: maybe it fix
[18:58] <sparr_> c0ldfusion: my IP is different on both networks, but within the same subnet
[18:58] <linux60284> sparr_: as long as the ips don't conflict, it should be okay
[18:58] <sparr_> linux60284: they do
[18:58] <HardyHeron> cirkit  dont make me lol
[18:58] <HardyHeron> let me see
[18:59] <PurpZeY> geronimaldo: hdb is not mounted though...hda is via NFS...So I know it must be hda...
[18:59] <c0ldfusion> sparr_, yeh I got that much; I don't know what you can do about that, other than change one subnet.
[18:59] <vf123> !truecrypt
[18:59] <ubotu> Truecypt is a free open-source on-the-fly disk encryption software.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TruecryptHiddenVolume
[18:59] <geronimaldo> PurpZeY: i´ve gotta dash. best of luck and may see you later.
[18:59] <sparr_> c0ldfusion: i dont have the authority to change either
[18:59] <geronimaldo> ok.. is it hda or hdb that you want to use
[18:59] <cirkit_> hack the planet
[18:59] <linux60284> sparr_: you could use the vmware network adapter and give yourself a new ip that way
[18:59] <sparr_> c0ldfusion: just for the sake of argument, lets pretend im using three VPNs, covering all of the legal LAN subnets, so there is no valid unique address scheme
[19:00] <linux60284> anyone know why i can't bind any programs to ANY ports (+ or - 1026)
[19:00] <MORPHEU_sp> ola pessoa
[19:00] <linux60284> sparr_: or you could VPN your local submask to another submask, that might work also (similar to the vmware network adapter technique)
[19:00] <c0ldfusion> sparr_, then you're sol
[19:00] <linux60284> anyone know why i can't bind any programs to ANY ports (+ or - 1026)???
[19:01] <c0ldfusion> I guess :p
[19:01] <MORPHEU_sp> flod
[19:01] <MORPHEU_sp> flod
[19:01] <MORPHEU_sp> flod
[19:01] <MORPHEU_sp> flod
[19:01] <MORPHEU_sp> flod
[19:01] <freesbie> excuse me, i am just curious, what pc/laptop is shipping ubuntu by default?
[19:01] <pokerfacepenguin> system76
[19:01] <linux60284> freesbie: Dell
[19:01] <freesbie> ty
[19:02] <freesbie> what's on olpc? eeepc?
[19:02] <linux60284> anyone know why i can't bind any programs to ANY ports (+ or - 1026)?
[19:02] <komputes> freesbie: olpc - one laptop per chiled
[19:02] <unop__> linux60284, you should be able to >=1024, how are you trying?
[19:02] <komputes> freesbie: eeepc - easy entertain something pc
[19:02] <linux60284> as root and as regular user
[19:03] <linux60284> both fail, both error "can't bind to port"
[19:03] <linux60284> for any program, i tried: apache, ssh, etc
[19:03] <komputes> freesbie: eeepc does not come with ubuntu, you may want to check out system76 or dell\
[19:03] <pokerfacepenguin> freesbie: yeah, olpc is a piece of hardware for the one laptop per child program, eepc is made by asus
[19:03] <freesbie> what distro is on gPC of VIA?
[19:04] <linux60284> unop: i tried services, command line, and from icons any and all programs, any suggestions
[19:04] <pokerfacepenguin> freesbie: not sure, guessing gOS
[19:04] <kazol> How do I set it so that the system hibernates after a specified amount of time?
[19:04] <freesbie> i got impressed by gPC, but it's still rough to me
[19:05] <cbx33> Hey guys
[19:05] <cbx33> anyone know of anysoftware to create graphics for video
[19:05] <cbx33> like the Hak5 people use
[19:05] <unop__> linux60284, hmm, i would go through these files to see if anything's out of order - /var/log/{dmesg,debug,syslog}
[19:05] <kazol> The power options only have the suspend option, which does not work on my hardware.
[19:05] <pokerfacepenguin> cbx33: looked at ubuntu studio yet?
[19:05] <freesbie> cbx33, this is a google question, buddy
[19:05] <cbx33> pokerfacepenguin, yeh
[19:06] <cbx33> I'm using kdenlive
[19:06] <cbx33> which is good
[19:06] <cbx33> but I need better intro graphics
[19:06] <cbx33> http://www.progbox.co.uk/wordpress/?p=520
[19:06] <linux60284> unop__: everything looks fine in the logs
[19:06] <pokerfacepenguin> cbx33: make your own with blender :)
[19:06] <adrock358> Can someone help me out with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/62540/
[19:07] <cbx33> yeh thought about that
[19:07] <adrock358> i am having big problems over here
[19:07] <cbx33> but then I have to composite in blender too
[19:07] <linux60284> unop__: any other suggestions?
[19:07] <adrock358> trying to get into my win part from ubuntu.  i have the right code, but now i am getting an error.  could someone check it out?
[19:07]  * kane77 fixed the touchpad thingy... what does the InputDevice "CorePointer" in xorg.conf mean anyway?
[19:07] <unop__> linux60284, it takes time trawling through those files and you need to put on your 'scrutiny' goggles before examining them .. small things do count, apart from that all i can suggest is having a look on launchpad if someone else might have experienced the same thing
[19:08] <adrock358> Has anyone ever done that?
[19:08] <cbx33> pokerfacepenguin, got any examples?
[19:08] <Dudicus_> any lvm2 pros I am trying to boot to my LVM root partition and I keep getting a kernel panic the partition is on a raid6 setup but the raid comes up fine..infact right after the raid comes up it tries the lvm part and fails..
[19:08] <linux60284> unop__: its on a server, so its a bad thing if its down for long
[19:08] <Dudicus_> any idea what I could be doing wroing?
[19:08] <linux60284> unop__: i guess i'll have to reinstall the OS when i get the time, i wish ubuntu was a little more stable, i would hate to go back to debian
[19:09] <unop__> linux60284, have you got any iptables rules in place?
[19:09] <linux60284> i am not using iptables, no firewall or pg2
[19:09] <adrock358> Anyone?
[19:09] <pokerfacepenguin> cbx33: of intros?  nope, but it can be done if they can make an entire movie with it (ie. the elephants dream, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsGEWHNJ3s8
[19:09] <linux60284> unop__: i was thinking it was a networking problem
[19:09] <cbx33> well sure
[19:09] <cbx33> but i kinda wanna blend it with video I have