[09:48] <dew6> moniker eee'sare over rated
[09:48] <pronoy_> jim_p: how do i use virtual cd creator on linux ... i have the windows version....does it work with wind ?
[09:48] <gregge> dew6: yeah, I hate it cause mine is really slow (there's a problem somewhere), but I heard everyone say it was faster, but I think it would be slower even if it worked normal
[09:48] <aussie_nutt> on boot then ubuntu dew
[09:48] <aschuch> How is the package called which installs the man pages for system calls or POSIX library functions, printf() for example?
[09:49] <jim_p> pronoy_: what does it do??
[09:49] <jim_p> pronoy_: and what is wind? wine?
[09:49] <aussie_nutt> but give it bit and tides will change
[09:49] <erUSUL> aschuch: manpages-dev ?
[09:49] <pronoy_> creates images of cds and makes a virtual drive and yeah typo its wine
[09:49] <pronoy_> jim_p: creates images of cds and makes a virtual drive and yeah typo its wine
[09:50] <dew6> aussie_nut yea i was agreeing xps way faster
[09:50] <jim_p> pronoy_: you can make images out of cds (iso) with isomaster i think and use acetoneiso to mount them
[09:50] <pronoy_> jim_p: already have an image...want to run it ?? how ?
[09:51] <jim_p> pronoy_: of cource, both jobs are done from terminal with a fracton of the time
[09:51] <erUSUL> jim_p: pronoy_ "cat /dev/cdrom > image.iso" and "mount image.iso /mount/point"
[09:51] <jim_p> pronoy_: install acetoneiso
[09:51] <gregge> do you think there's any development for older graphics drivers still. I'm not sure where the issue lies, but every driver I've tried fails horribly so far.. But I really want to us Ubuntu instead :/
[09:51] <aschuch> erUSUL: Ah, thanks. Works. :)
[09:51] <erUSUL> aschuch: no problem
[09:51] <erUSUL> !iso > pronoy_
[09:51] <pronoy_> jim_p: ok i'll get back to you after installing acetoneisop
[09:51] <IamSOG> does anyone know if fluxbuntu and ubuntu related ?
[09:51] <jim_p> ok
[09:52] <jim_p> IamSOG: fluxbuntu is a remake of ubunut with the fluxbox enviroment. canonical does not support fluxbuntu though
[09:53] <IamSOG> jim_p but does the people from ubuntu make fluxbuntu ?
[09:53] <badfish> it's not quite that simpole
[09:53] <badfish> simple*
[09:53] <badfish> probably some of the same people are involved
[09:53] <jussi01> !fluxbuntu
[09:54] <IamSOG> Oh, I see... thanks, because I can't seem to find anything with Fluxbuntu on the Unbuntu web page
[09:54] <jim_p> IamSOG: no. fluxbuntu is a community project thats why it gets left behind in rel;ation to ubuntu
[09:54] <noriyuki> hey MY keyboard does a very horrible sound when I press tab button or any other key when I do not have to. HOW can I get that sound off
[09:54] <noriyuki> ?
[09:54] <ghaleb> hello, how can I limit a user from seeing system files like etc, bin .. etc
[09:54] <Guest54722> how do i triple boot debian with my ubuntu and xp pro?
[09:55] <jim_p> noriyuki: in the terminal?
[09:55] <IamSOG> I see... thanks jim_p
[09:55] <pronoy_> jim_p: the image i have is in the form of .vc4
[09:55] <jim_p> IamSOG: you are welcome
[09:55] <jim_p> pronoy_: let me guess... it was created with that virtual something program? only use standard formats like .iso
[09:56] <Guest54722> im kind of a novice but i got ubuntu to work so i think i have grub now
[09:56] <error404notfound> suppose I have a 7.10 machine, and I want to upgrade it to 8.10, it's a development machine, and has stuff like svn, apache, tomcat and etc, and I don't want to lose them or their configurations, what would be the safest method? update-manager -d will also work? or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? or?
[09:56] <Guest54722> so when i download the debian iso how do i get it to show up on GRUB?
[09:56] <ikonia> Guest54722: you don't boot iso's
[09:56] <jim_p> .iso files play anywhere, can be opened by anytype of program that supports them and that can be burned to disk by any program
[09:56] <aussie_nutt> it should do it itself mosttime
[09:56] <pronoy_> jim_p: ya it was created using that....i gues i'll have to install windows on virtual box and then install the software on windows and then access it !!!
[09:57] <noriyuki> jim_p, in the terminal
[09:57] <pronoy_> what a drag
[09:57] <Guest54722> oh so i just download and click it?
[09:57] <Guest54722> and it does the rest?
[09:57] <ikonia> !iso | Guest54722
[09:57] <Guest54722> orrrr could i use easybcd?
[09:57] <aussie_nutt> download it pit on cd then boot up it
[09:58] <aussie_nutt> put*
[09:58] <Guest54722> cant i just download it and boot it up on my desktop?
[09:58] <Guest54722> or does it HAVE to be on a cd?
[09:58] <aussie_nutt> no
[09:58] <ikonia> Guest54722: no
[09:58] <jim_p> noriyuki: open the terminal and go to Edit > Current settings > General (tab) > Terminal bell
[09:58] <aussie_nutt> unless u suing vm
[09:58] <aussie_nutt> using
[09:58] <ikonia> Guest54722: your desktop is running, an os is already booted, so you can't boot it
[09:58] <Guest54722> k is there anyway around the cd thing?
[09:58] <pronoy_> jim_p: can i install yahoo IM client on ubuntu...because pidgin doesn't support voice chat right >?
[09:59] <ikonia> Guest54722: what are you talking about
[09:59] <ikonia> Guest54722: you have a running OS - you can't boot another one ontop of it
[09:59] <aussie_nutt> use gyache that alrite for yahoo n voice
[09:59] <Guest54722> is there anyway i can boot Debian without burning it to a disc?
[09:59] <noriyuki> thanks man
[09:59] <Guest54722> cause i dont have any cds
[09:59] <aussie_nutt> in a vm
[09:59] <ikonia> Guest54722: join #debian and ask for debian support
[09:59] <aussie_nutt> but dont u want dual boot it
[10:01] <jim_p> pronoy_: i dont think there is a linux crient for yahoo that supports video or voice
[10:01] <jim_p> i have to go now
[10:01] <_haywire_> cya jim_p
[10:01] <aussie_nutt> gyacje
[10:01] <aussie_nutt> gyache
[10:02] <jim_p> _haywire_: bye
[10:02] <Quadrescence> xubuntu is now installing! :O
[10:03] <person> why xubuntu
[10:03] <noriyuki> Is anybody using wave keyboard logitehc
[10:04] <pronoy_> HOW DO I VOICE CHAT ON LINUX USING YAHOO MESSENGER ???
[10:04] <noriyuki> person, what do you mean
[10:04] <noriyuki> pronoy_,  PRESS THE BUTTON
[10:04] <noriyuki> pronoy_, DONT SHOUT MAN it is not adequate thanks
[10:04] <pronoy_> noriyuki: sorry
[10:05] <aussie_nutt> yahoo msg for linux dont have voice
[10:05] <Quadrescence> pronoy_: THE BUTTON TO THE LEFT is what noriyuki is referring to.
[10:05] <aussie_nutt> pron i told u look at gyache
[10:05] <pronoy_> sorryy guys
[10:05] <person> noriyuki:  why choose xubuntu
[10:05] <aussie_nutt> i know that does voice in chat rooms
[10:05] <m3thod> how do u install sound device?
[10:06] <noriyuki> Does anybody knows how to link header files (c++ language) using  GCC compiler? (programming question, or just tell me if there is a channel for this , THANKS!!)
[10:07] <noriyuki> person, you could choose what ever distribution you lik as long as you feel good with it
[10:07] <person> ...
[10:07] <person> what the fuck
[10:07] <IamSOG> I have re-complie my Xubuntu 7.x's kernel, if I update to Xubuntu 8.1 will my kernel be "over-written" ? or it will just the same config file ?
[10:07] <person> why did you choose xubuntu, why not any other linux distro
[10:07] <person> that's what i'm asking
[10:07] <noriyuki> person, why ubuntu ? it is suppose to be the most friendlier by now IF you are a windows user you will find this distribution easier to use than the other ones if you are a ubuntu user
[10:08] <aussie_nutt> cuz different ppl have different preferences
[10:08] <binarymutant> does anyone know how I can authenticate myself using wget on identi.ca/api/statuses/update.xml ?
[10:08] <person> i'm on ubuntu 8.04 right now. i'm asking why did you choose Xubuntu instead of hardy heron
[10:08] <aussie_nutt> it like asking wat is best distro really there is none cuz it user that makes the choice and wat they like
[10:09] <noriyuki> person,  there will be an upgrade to ubuntu soon 8.10 I think IM excited!
[10:09] <person> word
[10:09] <noriyuki> person,  there will be an upgrade to ubuntu soon 8.10 I think, IM excited!
[10:10] <gnuskool> person: xubuntu will also run on hardy, if its installed, the difference is the gui, GTK2 and other minor stuff, otherwise they are the same
[10:11] <error404notfound> suppose I have a 7.10 machine, and I want to upgrade it to 8.10, it's a development machine, and has stuff like svn, apache, tomcat and etc, and I don't want to lose them or their configurations, what would be the safest method? update-manager -d will also work? or sudo apt-get dist-upgrade? or what?
[10:11] <pronoy_> noriyuki: is there any other software like macromedia flash for ubuntu ??
[10:11] <erUSUL> IamSOG: you will kkep your kernel and get the new ones probably the new ones will get first on the grub boot list
[10:11] <Quadrescence> pronoy_: look in the ubuntu restricted repos.
[10:12] <KenBW> Intrepid is meant to have 3G support, right?
[10:12] <Indoctrine> In Amarok, how do I get it to show up more than one band?
[10:12] <Indoctrine> In the playlist search
[10:13] <erUSUL> KenBW: the version of NM that comes with intrepid. ubuntu has 3g support but usually you have to "manually" configure the conection
[10:13] <Quadrescence> Indoctrine: I think that is out of the scope of this channel.
[10:13] <erUSUL> KenBW: NM --> Network Manager
[10:13] <Indoctrine> Tch
[10:13] <Indoctrine> Whatever
[10:13] <erUSUL> error404notfound: update-manager
[10:14] <erUSUL> !upgrade | error404notfound
[10:14] <KenBW> erUSUL: does it mean i can buy a dongle safe in the knowledge that it'll work?
[10:14] <error404notfound> KenBW: I have to dongle, and one does work, other doesn't, same port, same system.... don't know why...
[10:14] <erUSUL> KenBW: not that fast the device must have linux drivers (or be standar enough to work with standar usb stuff)
[10:15] <error404notfound> two*
[10:15] <Pete_> damn
[10:15] <Indoctrine> Quadrescence, yeah, but no one in the amarok channel answers. :)
[10:15] <greenthumb> hi. can someone help me? i've got firefox 3.0.3 and i've installed that flash-nonfree thingy
[10:15] <Quadrescence> Indoctrine: I know how it is. Just being the channel asshole while my thirst remains unquenched.
[10:15] <Pete_> going smoking :D see ya later
[10:15] <_haywire_> where?
[10:15] <greenthumb> but i cant watch vids on youtube anymore. i could yesterday
[10:15] <Pete_> outside :D
[10:16] <greenthumb> it just goes blank like this http://img517.imageshack.us/my.php?image=youtubeeu9.png
[10:16] <Indoctrine> !language | Quadrescence
[10:16] <Indoctrine> :P
[10:16] <Quadrescence> !sex | Indoctrine
[10:16] <hp_> greenthumb, have you restarted since installing it?
[10:16] <greenthumb> hp_ yes
[10:16] <hp_> hmm
[10:16] <greenthumb> yesterday i had probs with it too, but i found out ff wasnt updated, so i did, and it worked.
[10:17] <greenthumb> but now it won't work again
[10:17] <erUSUL> KenBW: is th same case that with wifi cards... first the driver then NM can be used to configure the rest of the details ...
[10:17] <hp_> well, i gave up on it in the end myself and went back to adobe
[10:18] <hp_> so mb i'm not the best person to talk to
[10:18] <greenthumb> hp_: i would like to use the adobe, but when i download and extract the installer is readonly. how do I get around that?
[10:19] <linny> greenthumb download the tar.gz
[10:19] <greenthumb> linny: i did.
[10:19] <greenthumb> that's the one with the readonly file
[10:20] <linny> greenthumb exract it an cp libflasplayer.so /home/unamne/.mozilla/plugins
[10:20] <linny> unmae insert username
[10:20] <cvm> hi all
 Hello cvm!
[10:20] <zeno___> Hi, I had a usbaudio mike plugged in, but when I removed it and changed sound settings back to autodetect in gnome contorl i cannot hear the test sound
[10:21] <aussie_nutt> green best thing to do is prob uninstall adobe flash /gnash then restart ff then go to yuotube and add it on adobe flash again
[10:21] <greenthumb> linny: cp?
[10:21] <linny> greenthumb imade typos in that sorry i just got up
[10:21] <linny> pm me and ill show you
[10:22] <IndyGunFreak> why not just run the script that is inside the flash tarball?...
[10:22] <gogstad> i've added a variable in /etc/environment, is there a way to "instantiate" this variable without restarting?
[10:22] <zeno___> aussie_nutt: sudo apt-get remove gnash;killall firefox;sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree;firefox &
[10:23] <gogstad> "export FOO='foo'" doesn't leave the variable visible outside the current shell
[10:23] <linny> IndyGunFreak: ive had trouble with that in the past personnaly i just copy the file
[10:23] <IndyGunFreak> linny: weird, cuz i've installed Flash like that more times than i care to think about on my PCs, friends pCs, etc.. and never once had an issue.
[10:23] <aussie_nutt> zeno i wasnt askin lol
[10:24] <linny> when i used the installer for some reason i didnt get sound ?
[10:24] <zeno___> aussie_nutt: k sry
[10:24] <aussie_nutt> np lol
[10:24] <IndyGunFreak> linny: thats not because you used the installer.
[10:26] <Indoctrine> wine says I need mono to run .NET programs, how do I get said mono?
[10:26] <aussie_nutt> just go to add/remove n it in programming
[10:26] <zeno___> is there a way to restart all sound stuff?
[10:27] <zeno___> nm i just have to manually select alsa, instead of auto or pulse
[10:29] <aussie_nutt> could u just use killall
[10:29] <aussie_nutt> wouldnt that reset or restart it
[10:31] <kent> is  ubuntu 8.10 supposed to support 3g internet through nm-applet now?  I cant get it to work. Where do i look for loggs about errors?
[10:31] <ikonia> kent: #ubuntu+1 is for 8.10 support
[10:33] <ubuntu_> !grub
[10:35] <error404notfound> how large should /boot be? 100M?
[10:35] <Pete_> round about that year..
[10:37] <aussie_nutt> lol 100 is plenty
[10:37] <aussie_nutt> think largest kerenl ive compiles was only 3 mb lol
[10:38] <liuwei> python
[10:38] <aussie_nutt> compiled*
[10:40] <error404notfound> what if I store about 3,4 kernels, how large should be /boot?
[10:40] <aussie_nutt> stay with 100
[10:40] <dontchoke> The program 'memcached' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[10:40] <dontchoke> apt-get install memcached
[10:40] <dontchoke> is that all i have to do
[10:40] <dontchoke> ?
[10:41] <hateball> I'd suggest you make /boot bigger than 100mb, or you'll have problems distupgrading Ubuntu
[10:41] <error404notfound> hateball: how large?
[10:41] <aussie_nutt> i know mate has 2/3 and one kernel is 15mb and he still hasnt used whole 100 yet
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:42] <towa2k> 안녕하세요
[10:43] <hateball> aussie_nutt: that might be true if you compile your own kernels
[10:43] <towa2k> 흠
[10:43] <hateball> error404notfound: I'd say 200, and make sure to clean out unused kernels before you upgrade
[10:43] <error404notfound> suppose I have 40GB HD, tell me if this sound okay: 700MB swap, /home 10G, /var 5G, /boot 100M, /usr 5G, remaining for /
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> towa2k: all you are writing are sqares on my display
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: how much RAM do you have?
[10:44] <error404notfound> ActionParsnip: 512MB
[10:44] <hateball> error404notfound: Why would you want /usr on a separate mount?
[10:44] <error404notfound> hateball: read it in Linux Admin Made Easy... :P
[10:44] <achadwick> !ko | towa2k
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: what is the system for? will their bbe many apps installed?
[10:44] <isgoungoo> anyone chinese
[10:45] <hateball> !cn | isgoungoo
[10:45] <isgoungoo> somebody
[10:45] <error404notfound> ActionParsnip: yup, development machine, apache, tomcat, eclipse, such things are assumed to be installed...
[10:45] <aussie_nutt> swap id make 1000
[10:45] <linny> im having problems with ff3 when it starts it goes to fullscreen mode and f11 doesnt resize it ,im using 8.10 compiz,gnome,and i have an 8500 gt is it a known issue are there work arounds ?
[10:45] <hateball> I personally think having /usr on a separate partition is overkill
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: id make swap 1Gb / to be 10G and /home for the rest
[10:46] <error404notfound> ActionParsnip: only that many partitions?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: ive never put /usr on a seperate partition myself
[10:47] <TheSpawn> what is the hold up on google chrome? i thought it would be out for linux the next day?
[10:47] <hateball> Only reason to put /boot on it's own would be to use something like ext2 instead, for whatever minimal speed gains that might give
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: put all your apache docs and the like in your home dir then you can backup in one swoop
[10:47] <gregge> I want to do anything to get Ubuntu working better, and as I suppose it's slow due to bad drivers, would it be possible to use ndiswrapper to run the win-drivers?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> gregge: absolutely
[10:48] <idimmu> is there a site somewhere that lists some serious pros/cons between debian and ubuntu
[10:48] <Babylykke> *cry*
[10:49] <aussie_nutt> guess its ppl choices there action with dif partitions
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> idimmu: http://www.linux.com/forums/topic/1227
[10:49] <aussie_nutt> some say some things others say others
[10:49] <gregge> ActionParsnip: Cool. I thought maybe it would be too advance to use graphics drivers.. But I'll invest some time for it then!
[10:49] <idimmu> as i need to sell switching from debian to people in power
[10:49] <idimmu> ActionParsnip: ta
[10:49] <Babylykke> I upgraded to 8.10 and now the internet-icon is just gone. I cannot connect to any wirless network :S
[10:49] <error404notfound> idimmu: just a matter of choice... I like winter, you might like summer...
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> !intrepid | Babylykke
[10:49] <idimmu> error404notfound: i dont believe in choice
[10:49] <Babylykke> ActionParsnip: what?
[10:50] <idimmu> i believe in consistant release cylces and lts
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> Babylykke: support for 8.10 is in #ubuntu+1
[10:50] <Babylykke> ah..oki
[10:50] <Babylykke> ty
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> idimmu: consistant releases and lts doesnt prevent choice
[10:51] <idimmu> it does if the other choices dont offer that and you need it
[10:51] <aussie_nutt> look at debian and its release lol
[10:51] <chronographer> hi. anyone know a good video format to use for a school presentation ender. I have a ogg file I want to convert, its around 200 meg, looks beautiful but I want a <10 meg looking good file... needs to work on windows ... what do you recommend?
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> idimmu: it depends where the "choice" you are on about lies
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> chronographer: thats a 90% compression, you are going to lose a tonne of quality
[10:52] <idimmu> ActionParsnip: how can anyone make an informed choice with out some kind of list or summary of differences
[10:53] <chronographer> why can't avidemux open the ogg file?
[10:53] <afancy> hi, does anyone know how to install Cisco VPN on Ubuntu? thanks
[10:53] <chronographer> yeah... sure that will have to do
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> idimmu: then they need to research, just like before investing any sort of time or money into anything
[10:53] <chronographer> afancy ... I did it a while ago, it was easy .. read the manual, search google
[10:53] <idimmu> if the only 'difference' is personal preference then by definition ubuntu is a waste of time
[10:54] <idimmu> ActionParsnip: and im doing that research at the moment to sell my point of view :D
[10:54] <KenBW22> idimmu: what choice are you speaking of
[10:54] <idimmu> switching from debian to ubuntu
[10:54] <afancy> chronographer: Could u share it with me? as yesterday, it cost me much of time, but i still couldnot make it work.
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> idimmu: most ive talked to think Ubuntu IS linux (no ther distros) and they get confused when i mention other distros
[10:54] <gregge> ActionParsnip: I just read about ndiswrapper and it doesn't say anything about the ability to use graphics drivers
[10:54] <chronographer> um... I can't remember sorry
[10:55] <mte_> hello.. I screwed something with apache2 configuration in /etc so I removed /etc/apache2 dir, then I did "apt-get purge apache2 apache2-common" and "apt-get install apache2" and now /etc/apache2 dir is still not there... how could I fix this?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> gregge: i thought you were talking about wireless drivers
[10:55] <KenBW22> idimmu: ive never used debian, but id assume ubuntu nis easier to use
[10:55] <chronographer> http://www.longren.org/2007/05/17/how-to-cisco-vpn-client-on-ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn/
[10:55] <idimmu> ActionParsnip: im not selling this idea to dinner ladies, im selling it to competent people that i work with
[10:55] <gregge> ActionParsnip: nope :(
[10:55] <idimmu> KenBW22: easier to use isnt much of an issue as the people i work with arent idiots
[10:55] <aussie_nutt> i am debian user and went to ubuntu like it
[10:55] <afancy> chronographer: could u recall it?
[10:55] <chronographer> look at the above link
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> gregge: what graphics card do you have?
[10:55] <afancy> ok, thanks
[10:56] <gregge> geforce 8400M GS
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> gregge: have you tried envyng-gtk?
[10:56] <gregge> I've tried several drivers, and it works well for games, but everything else is way too slow.. Yes, I use the one Envy recommended now
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> gregge: have you tweaked your xorg.conf any to get better preformance
[10:58] <gregge> ActionParsnip: No, could it make a significant improvement? Everything is working really nice in XP, but i want to use Ubuntu
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> gregge: it works in XP as the driver support in xp is awesome
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> gregge: you are now using ubuntu which isnt xp
[10:59] <afancy> chronographer: There is soem errors when i install it
[10:59] <chronographer> what are they?
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> gregge: you need to tweak stuff a little, have you tried nvidia-settings?
[10:59] <afancy> /tmp/vpnclient/GenDefs.h:113: error: conflicting types for ‘uintptr_t’
[11:00] <chronographer> try an open source one... anyone know if open vpn clients work?
[11:00] <gregge> ActionParsnip: It's much worse in Ubuntu.. Right now I'm on XP.. sadly. No i haven't use nvidia-settings
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> gregge: id have a browse round to see if anyones had any luck with your graphics card model
[11:01] <ikonia> gregge: which card do you have ?
[11:02] <afancy> hi, does anyone know how to install Cisco VPN on Ubuntu? thanks
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> its an 8400M GS
[11:02] <ikonia> !away > rebel_kid
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> afancy: http://www.longren.org/2007/05/17/how-to-cisco-vpn-client-on-ubuntu-704-feisty-fawn/
[11:02] <gregge> ActionParsnip: I've been asking people for since I bought it two months ago, with no luck. Lots of people must use it as I find heaps of latops with it
[11:02] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: thats an odd one, I'll have a dig
[11:02] <chronographer> !vpnc
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> gregge: have you checked the forums?
[11:02] <chronographer> search in synaptic for cisco vpn
[11:02] <afancy> ActionParsnip: Hi, i have tried it just now, but there r some errors when i installed it
[11:03] <rebel_kid> iknonia, that was my isp dieing, and my secondary nick is my away nick, once i ghosted my standard i /nick 'ed
[11:03] <gregge> ActionParsnip: Which forums? Ubuntu's official? Not really, only for my specific laptop, which didn't help much
[11:04] <ikonia> rebel_kid: still don't need an "away" nick
[11:04] <rebel_kid> ikonia, i dont use it in this chan
[11:04] <ikonia> rebel_kid you just did, hence the message
[11:04] <aussie_nutt> isnt there vpnclient
[11:05] <rebel_kid> ikonia, that was no different than an alternate nick in case of ghost or nick takeover
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> gregge: have you tried nvidia-glx-new
[11:05] <rebel_kid> ikonia, it just happened to be |zZzZ
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> !vpn
[11:05] <ikonia> rebel_kid nice changes for away / sleeping / alternative nics are not really appriciated
[11:06] <gregge> ActionParsnip: Think so, but it was a while ago.. not positive though. I'll see what info I can get on it
[11:07] <rebel_kid> ikonia, that was not a nick change for sleeping or away, that was my internet dieing and rebel_kid disconnecting, then x chat reconnecting under an alternate because rebel_kid was a ghost, after ghosting i nicked back to rebel_kid that had nothing to do with being away or sleeping
[11:07] <ikonia> rebel_kid why are you arguing this, it was just a polite request
[11:08] <rebel_kid> ikonia, i found it rude, seeing as how the message "rebel_kid quit(nick collission from services)" came first
[11:08] <ikonia> rebel_kid thats your issue to deal with then, just because your connection died, you had another "away" nick idling
[11:09] <rebel_kid> ikonia, you would have seen the same messages had the alternate been rebel_kid_
[11:09] <ikonia> rebel_kid yes
[11:10] <FabianB_> gpgme doesn't seem to work in the beta, looks like a focus bug
[11:11] <FabianB_> thunderbird and balsa act the same
[11:14] <mookid> I am trying to install SnapLogic.. the installer is complaining that I don't have python dev files installed and according to my package manager this isn't the case. What should I do?
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> mookid: sudo apt-get --reinstall install <whatever its called>
[11:15] <aussie_nutt> think that cuz it uses python 2.4 n most use python 2.5 now
[11:15] <mookid> ActionParsnip: I have removed and installed
[11:15] <mookid> is that the same?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> pretty much
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> mookid: maybe you need to set a path up to point to the files
[11:16] <aussie_nutt> prob have do a private install of python 2.4.4 in separate directory
[11:20] <Milos> Anyone know some kind of webcam software that will automatically take snapshots and save them every few seconds?
[11:20] <Milos> On command line?
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> Milos: you could cron a job with imagemagick
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Milos: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=867030
[11:22] <laptop_> Hello, I have one DVD-RW and I have some data on it, I want to delete whole data on DVD, how to do it
[11:22] <aussie_nutt> maybe freshmeat or something like that have something there
[11:22] <laptop_> I can't do it with DVD/CD creator
[11:23] <bazooka> break the dvd if its not  rewritable
[11:23] <laptop_> It is rewritable
[11:23] <laptop_> I am asking how to delete data from it
[11:23] <aussie_nutt> lol
[11:23] <bazooka> lol k
[11:24] <laptop_> so, anyone knows?
[11:24] <bazooka> i dont
[11:24] <aussie_nutt> best advice is treat then like dvd r lmao
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> laptop_: try one of these
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> !burning | laptop_
[11:26] <tyso1> hey anyone know where i can go to get info on how to change the backgrounds and cube cap images when using the desktop cube?
[11:26] <ikonia> !compiz | tyso1
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> laptop_: or try sudo dvd+rw-format -force=full /dev/<dvd drive device name>
[11:26] <tyso1> thanks
[11:27] <saurabh> is there a utility to generate keyboard heatmap?
[11:28] <bazooka> try another dvd writing software
[11:29] <aussie_nutt> not sure how nero linux is
[11:29] <aussie_nutt> mite have it prob not though
[11:29]  * ActionParsnip doent use DVDRW
[11:30] <aussie_nutt> me either
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> aussie_nutt: isnt it proprietary and paid for software
[11:30] <aussie_nutt> yeah it is
[11:30] <bazooka> your dvd is scratch free ?
[11:30] <aussie_nutt> but there demo for him to see if it will
[11:30] <bazooka> i dont go for paid sw
[11:30] <aussie_nutt> just suggestion
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> bazooka: me neoither, some purists hate proprietary too
[11:30] <bazooka> it is against the whole concept of open source
[11:31] <aussie_nutt> lmao
[11:31] <smm289> Curious as to why all the drives on my system are labeled sd, for example sda, sdb,sdc,sdd.  All of these drives are IDE drives and the sdd drive is a USB thumb drive. Why are they labeled as SCSI?
[11:31] <aussie_nutt> cant say u never used them though
[11:31] <ikonia> smm289: it changed a while ago
[11:31] <ikonia> smm289: it's called libata and all disks now show as sd*
[11:31] <smm289> ok, so its normal than
[11:32] <ikonia> smm289: very normal and very good
[11:32] <bazooka> aussie_nutt: i havent
[11:32] <smm289> I guess that makes my life a little easier, will a cd drive even show up as SD
[11:32] <bazooka> linux is not so popular among females ..lol
[11:32] <aussie_nutt> lol
[11:32] <bazooka> ok even i have a small problem
[11:32] <bazooka> i cannot unmount my pen drive
[11:33] <bazooka> i have to pull it out without having it properly ejected
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> bazooka: sudo umount /mount/path
[11:33] <bazooka> it doesnt unmount
[11:33] <bazooka> ok let me try
[11:34] <bazooka> how do i find its path
[11:34] <aussie_nutt> cant u just rite click on lil icon on screen and unmount
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> bazooka: type mount in terminal
[11:34] <bazooka> it hides the icon of the PD ..but doesnt stop the PD
[11:35] <bazooka> Actionparsnip: ok done
[11:35] <bazooka> Actionparsnip: now what
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> bazooka: read the screen, it will tell you where its mounted (e.g. /mnt/stick) then you can unmount it with sudo umount /mnt/stick
[11:36] <smm289> For some reason the ubuntu partition is labaled as sda2 then under that there is an ext3 sda5 and a linux swap sda6.  sda1 is an ext3 file system worth 116GB that used to be my old windows partition.  I want to give this space to linux but it won't let me merge it into the ubuntu partition.  Would I have to use the live cd to work on the ubuntu partition?
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> bazooka: yours will be different as it may be mounted somewhere else
[11:36] <ikonia> smm289 extended partition
[11:36] <smm289> ??
[11:36] <bazooka> Actionparsnip: i got this ..../dev/sdb1 on /media/disk
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> smm289: sda2 is an extended partition, sda5 and sda6 are logical partitions in the extended partition
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> bazooka: fine
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> bazooka: sudo umount /media/disk
[11:37] <test> how to next/previous rhytmbox using terminal?
[11:37] <smm289> yep, thats what G-parted is telling me
[11:37] <bazooka> Actionparsnip: ok trying
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> smm289: you can mount ntfs with ntfs-3g
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> smm289: you may have some issues with folders containing weird permissions
[11:38] <bazooka> Actionparsnip: the PD is still glowing the light
[11:38] <smm289> I don't have any more ntfs files, I formated the old windows partition to ext3 totally killing windows, now I have the left over space that I want to merge into the sda2 or move the sda2 and merge that into sda1
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> bazooka: does it turn off when unmounted normally?
[11:38] <AdvoWork> anyone here know much about demonizing, or I think thats the word anyway?
[11:39] <bazooka> Actionparsnip: nope just doesnt ... i pull it out without unmounting
[11:39] <natalisushka> Hi, I am having a strange problem. I have played with the partitioning of my laptop while ubuntu is installed on one partition, and resized some to create a new one for freebsd. After a free space was created, I moved one ubuntu's partition and swap to the right so I can have the empty space on which I wanted to install DeskTopBSD. When I restarted, everything worked fine and I am logged in to ubuntu. I rebooted and i
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> smm289: you could mount it in a folder in ~/ so you can write user data to it
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> smm289: if practical i would reinstall (if this is a new install) and repartition properly
[11:40] <mookid> ActionParsnip: I've reinstalled python and python-dev and it's still moaning that 'I do not appear to have the python development files installed' - SnapLogic is now using python 2.5 so this is not the issue I don't think
[11:40] <smm289> and the NTFS file permission thing is a pain in the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>I have two large storage drives that are ntfs, I can write and read from them fine fron linux but all of the file permissions are set as root and I am unable to change the permisssions.  I need another drive so I can start to move things over and then convert them to ext3
[11:40] <bazooka> Actionparsnip: the icon on the desktop gets hidden after unmounting ...but i can still access the PD from the places . and the PD continues to glow
[11:40] <smm289> file ownership I mean
[11:40] <aussie_nutt> baz i think some pd mite still have lighton could be bois related there but longs u unmount it should be fine
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> mookid: is there a variable you can pass to point the system to the pythin-dev stuff?
[11:41] <bazooka> any help will be appreciated :D
[11:41] <drowner29_> Hello everyone
 Hello drowner29_!
[11:41] <drowner29_> so erm
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> smm289: then you are mounting wrong, Id check your mount UIDs so users can write
[11:41] <drowner29_> question about uninstalling
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> drowner29_: uninstalling what?
[11:41] <bazooka> can anyone help me with this ??????????????????/
[11:42] <smm289> I have my file server setup pretty close to how I want it, with all the programs I use installed and running.  If I copy my home folder to a DVD, then format and re-install ubuntu.  If I restore my home folder will all my settings and installed programs be restored
[11:42] <bazooka> the icon on the desktop gets hidden after unmounting ...but i can still access the PD from the places . and the PD continues to glow
[11:42] <bazooka> the icon on the desktop gets hidden after unmounting ...but i can still access the PD from the places . and the PD continues to glow
[11:42] <drowner29_> I just did an update, and watched it. I noticed there was a bunch of K packages, like kdesktop. I use gnome. The only K thing i think i have installed is Amarok
[11:42] <Quadrescence> bazooka: no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[11:42] <bazooka> aww
[11:42] <bazooka> :(
[11:42] <natalisushka> Hi, I am having a strange problem. I have played with the partitioning of my laptop while ubuntu is installed on one partition, and resized some to create a new one for freebsd. After a free space was created, I moved one ubuntu's partition and swap to the right so I can have the empty space on which I wanted to install DeskTopBSD. When I restarted, everything worked fine and I am logged in to ubuntu. I rebooted and i
[11:42] <drowner29_> I can live without Amarok, if I uninstall it, will it uninstall any dependent packages if nothing else needs them? or does kdesktop come anyway?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> drowner29_: then its a dependancy of amarok
[11:42] <mookid> ActionParsnip: do you mean a parameter?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> mookid: yeah, or a defined variable to point to it
[11:43] <P_Kable> Hi there, I want to secure my flash drive using gdecrypt, does anyone knows how to do that ? Been trying for 3 hours, no luck
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> drowner29_: if you uninstall amarok then run sudo apt-get sutoremove
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> drowner29_: then all orphaned apps will go
[11:43] <drowner29_> sutoremove?
[11:43] <drowner29_> is that a typo?
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> drowner29_: good eyes :D
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> autoremove
[11:44] <smm289> I can write fine to the NTFS drives, but for example if I have an ISO located on the networked NTFS drive my ubuntu laptop cannot mount those ISO's using G-mount.  I am told I do not have permission to do that.  I can change the ownership of these files to my self but then they automatically switch back to root.  If I copy the iso to my local hard-drive then I can mount it.  Google searches says other people with the ntfs structure have n
[11:44] <bazooka> the icon on the desktop gets hidden after unmounting ...but i can still access the PD from the places . and the PD continues to glow
[11:45] <mookid> ActionParsnip: I can specify ' Enter the location of the Python executable' and 'Specify the install directory for Python'
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> smm289: you just gotta tweak permissions, specially for the username you are connecting over the LAN with, make sure they have full access
[11:45] <drowner29_> Thanks ActionParsnip. I'll try that... i hope i don't have some other k app somewhere. I dont like having things i dont need
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> mookid: looks like a step in the right direction
[11:46] <aussie_nutt> think once u unmount it the light still flashing cuz u cant turn off power on usb port
[11:46] <smm289> thats the issue, files that are already located on an NTFS drive hosted by ubuntu, I am unable to change ownership of those files.  I can write to the ntfs fine, just that any file placed there ends up with a root ownership that I am unable to change
[11:46] <mookid> ActionParsnip: What are the correct paths for these?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> mookid: no idea man
[11:47] <batking> If someone can help me with flash on feisty fawn please message me. Thanks.
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> is feisty still supported?
[11:47] <drowner29_> running it now, ActionParsnip. I'll let you know, i'm sure you're interested
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> drowner29_: just read the screen. it will tell you what its removing
[11:48] <drowner29_> its removing kdesktop
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> drowner29_: is it removing anything you wanna keep
[11:48] <mookid> ActionParsnip: the help command is throwing up this in a couple of places: ' ***unknown variable default_python_location*** ' - does that mean anything to you?
[11:48] <drowner29_> nothing that strikes me
[11:48] <drowner29_> a few things look important
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> drowner29_: you can always reinstall
[11:49] <batking> wait what am i on about. i mean 8.04
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> mookid: i'd /j #python
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> !flash | batking
[11:49] <drowner29_> xserver-xorg-video-amd
[11:49] <drowner29_> looks important, ActionParsnip
[11:49] <drowner29_> except i dont have an amd anything
[11:50] <drowner29_> been removed, i can still see the screen, however
[11:50] <drowner29_> :D
[11:50] <drowner29_> thanks, ActionParsnip
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> drowner29_: do you have an AMD graphics card?
[11:50] <drowner29_> No, i dont
[11:50] <drowner29_> so, i dont know who told it to install that
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> drowner29_: then you're ok
[11:50] <drowner29_> i used to have automatix. i blame that
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> drowner29_: dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-video
[11:51] <drowner29_> what will that do ActionParsnip?
[11:51] <munckfish> Hi folks - does anyone else feel that Hardy is much less responsive than previous versions? I definitely get more occasions sat looking at a screen which needs to be refreshed while something else is working away.
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> drowner29_: theres a few, you can remove the pointless ones if you wanna free up space
[11:51] <alexey> Someone russian?
[11:51] <ikonia> !ru
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: you beat me to the draw
[11:51] <alexey> ! ru
[11:52] <alexey> i 40?
[11:52] <alexey> и что?
[11:52] <neil_d> does anyone know if the intel 8-port sata board SRCSATAWB work on Linux ?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> drowner29_: it lists ALL installed apps then grep filters to show all the ones containg that string
[11:52] <smm289> if I backup my home folder, format and re-install ubuntu, then restore the backup folder are all settings and installed programs restored?
[11:52] <drowner29_> nice
[11:52] <natalisushka> Hi, I am having a strange problem. I have played with the partitioning of my laptop while ubuntu is installed on one partition, and resized some to create a new one for DeskTopBSD. After a free space was created, I moved one ubuntu's partition and swap to the right so I can have the empty space on which I wanted to install DeskTopBSD. When I restarted, everything worked fine and I was logged in to ubuntu. I rebooted a
[11:52] <ikonia> neil_d check out the hardware compatability list, most intel boards will
[11:52] <drowner29_> ActionParsnip: most helpful, thankyou
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> smm289: yes as long as you backup the hidden folders too
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> drowner29_: grep is DAMN powerful
[11:53] <smm289> will a normal copy get the hidden folders ?
[11:53] <drowner29_> natalisushka: your problem is not there. I can imagine what it is, though
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> smm289: dont think so personally
[11:53] <aussie_nutt> bazooka : u could write lil script up to put the usb device in suspend mode like windows
[11:53] <aussie_nutt> then light go off
[11:53] <aussie_nutt> but always unmount first
[11:53] <neil_d> ikonia: where is the list ?
[11:54] <smm289> probably should use one of the backup utilities then hu, other than a standard copy
[11:54] <bazooka> aussie_nutt:damn how to do that
[11:54] <natalisushka> drowner29_: then where is it?
[11:54] <drowner29_> no i mean
[11:54] <drowner29_> natalisushka: read your message
[11:54] <drowner29_> natalisushka: the last thing you said was everything worked fine, and you rebooted.
[11:54] <aussie_nutt> cuz i think that reason why light still on cuz windows always goes into suspend mode when not in use and done think linux does that
[11:55] <aussie_nutt> so that why light just keeps flashing
[11:55] <bazooka> but this is very much in use
[11:55] <bazooka> it just never gets unmounted
[11:55] <ikonia> !hcl | neil_d
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> aussie_nutt: gotta love weird hardwrae
[11:55] <aussie_nutt> well i find it so strange cuz wat action said it be safe to take out
[11:55] <natalisushka> drowner29_: yes, I know, but since I am using ubuntu, and it's an operating system that can play with partitions, then I guess I could find help here!
[11:55] <drowner29_> yes, you can
[11:56] <aussie_nutt> and thinking that usb port doesnt go suspend mode like windows so then power still going to it
[11:56] <aussie_nutt> action : yeah i know
[11:56] <bazooka> but that means it is still mounted ...and the unmount has failed
[11:56] <ikonia> natalisushka what is the actual issue, everything seems to be working fine
[11:56] <drowner29_> natalisushka: What do you want help with?
[11:56] <drowner29_> natalisushka: the last thing you said was 'everything is working fine and you were logged into ubuntu'
[11:56] <drowner29_> which is also my current status, too
[11:57] <aussie_nutt> hmm maybe
[11:57] <aussie_nutt> wat ubuntu u using
[11:57] <bazooka> 8.04
[11:57] <aussie_nutt> think 7.04 had unmount bug
[11:57] <aussie_nutt> but 8.04 all good
[11:57] <bazooka> this is 8.04
[11:57] <bazooka> has 6.06 earlier ..that was fine
[11:57] <bazooka> 8.04 never was
[11:58] <aussie_nutt> as action said weird hardware but just unmount and wait few seconds and take it out the script really only puts port in suspend mode like windows n light go off
[11:58] <aussie_nutt> but u still have unmount
[11:59] <natalisushka> ikonia: drowner29_ .. I don't know how you see the post but to me the last sentence was : I rebooted and installed DesktopBSD on the free partition, and after that its grub detected ubuntu .. but when I tried to login to ubuntu I received an error in the unix: Error: Unable to mount partition! from DeskTopBSD and live ubuntu CD I am able to see the files of other partitions including ubuntu partition. how can I solve
[11:59] <bazooka> hahaha i think pulling it out abruptly is easier
[11:59] <HUNTER_byte> How do I know which packages were installed the last time I used aptitude?
[11:59] <natalisushka> ikonia: drowner29_: probably it's the webbased IRC that I am using
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> natalisushka: your partition names will have changed as you have been playing with them. You will need to edit /etc/fstab to reflect your new partition names
[12:00] <aussie_nutt> lmao if u want do that way then do it
[12:00] <ikonia> natalisushka ok, your partition table has changed, so you'll need to make sure your menu.lst is up to date, and grub references the correct partition for menu.lst
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> natalisushka: you will need to change this in your ubuntu boot
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> natalisushka: as well as what ikonia says
[12:00] <chester_m> Hi, how can i know the name of my wireless device?
[12:01] <bazooka> but there has to be some fix for this ...
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> chester_m: do you mean your accesspoint or the wireless connector in your PC?
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> HUNTER_byte: you could search for files modified after a certain date
[12:02] <chester_m> wireless connector. It's usb (but internal). I do lsusb, and i pick 0bda:8197 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[12:03] <chester_m> But what i want is to know the name
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> chester_m: lsusb and lspci
[12:04] <mrbumba> I cannod download new packages in ubuntu
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> mrbumba: do you have an internet connection?
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> mrbumba: to the ubuntu pc?
[12:04] <mrbumba> yes, sure
[12:05] <hateball> !netsplit
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> mrbumba: and can you browse the internet from it?
[12:05] <mrbumba> after all, I'm in irc at this moment
[12:05] <mrbumba> umgh - yes
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> ok
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> then you want to do: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> here we go
[12:05] <mrbumba> stop flooding - I cannot copy text
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> mrbumba: paste that into a terminal and you will be fully updated
[12:06] <drowner29_> that's a decent split
[12:06] <aussie_nutt> lil kiddie
[12:06] <bazooka> okk
[12:06] <drowner29_> hands up if you
[12:06] <drowner29_> are on this side
[12:06] <drowner29_> this is the cool side
[12:06] <Paddy_EIRE> that was just Chuck Norris rebooting his server
[12:06]  * Grey_Loki laughs
[12:06] <paul68> I'm here
[12:06] <bazooka> the icon on the desktop gets hidden after unmounting ...but i can still access the PD from the places . and the PD continues to glow
[12:06] <drowner29_> and.... we're back
[12:07] <smm289> I have VirtualBox OSE 1.5.2 installed, I want to update to the latest version, but the new version is not listed in my Add/Remove... programs section??
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> mrbumba: you probably havent ran sudo apt-get update so you r system doesnt know whats onthe repos
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> smm289: sudo dpkg -l | grep -i virtual
[12:07] <mrbumba> ActionParsnip: I tried that, but unfortunately it didn't work
[12:08] <smm289> will that just update and leave my current VM settings for XP intact or will I have to start over
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> mrbumba: what does it say when you try?
[12:08] <mrbumba> the error message appears after apt-get update
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> smm289: it only updates the program, settings are in ~/ and are untouched
[12:08] <mrbumba> Vrhe http://apt.tt-solutions.com hardy/main Packages 404 Not Found
[12:08] <mrbumba> W: Tiedoston http://apt.tt-solutions.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz nouto ei onnistunut  404 Not Found
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> mrbumba: and so on with lots of 404s?
[12:09] <mrbumba> there's only one 404
[12:09] <cwraig> hi all, a really weird thing just happenedi have 8.10 installed on acer aspire one. It incorrectly identified my wireless chipset and there fore failed to work. following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AspireOne#Install%20Ubuntu%20Intrepid%20Ibex%208.10(Alpha6)%20on%20the%20Acer%20Aspire%20One the first step is to turn off madwifi driver and reboot. as soon as i did the card works and the driver manager says the madwifi driver is not enabled. I am pleas
[12:09] <cwraig> e but confused.
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> mrbumba: then comment those lines out. Use: gksu gedit /etc/apt/sources.lst
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> !intrepid \ cwraig
[12:09] <ruediix> Well, there's always only one 404 page.  ;)  Oh, You mean 404 errors, in which case, you should probably refresh your list.
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> !intrepid | cwraig
[12:10] <aussie_nutt> lol
[12:10] <ruediix> On synaptic make sure to save your changes first.
[12:10] <cwraig> ActionParsnip, Ok thanks
[12:10] <smm289> Action: was that supposed to update the VirtualBox software or just update my repository list.  I spit out a bunch of text, but I think its just telling me the version of the stuff I have installed
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> smm289: i thought you just wanted to know what version you had?
[12:10] <gholm> can anyone help me? I'm trying to install Ubuntu on a machine that runs WinXP fine... it just won't install. It freezes at partitioning... grrr
[12:10] <bazooka> aussie_nutt:why you laffin mate
[12:11] <halycon> Hey everyone I keep getting all these problems saying I have the "wrong architecture" when I am installing things. For some reason Ubuntu seems to think I have a 64bit machine even though I dont. I just tried installing Adobe Flash Player and got the following error: ERROR: Your architecture, \'x86_64\', is not supported by the
[12:11] <halycon>        Adobe Flash Player installer.
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> gholm: did you md5 check the image and cd once it was burned?
[12:11] <drowner29_> gholm: what are the specs of the machine you are trying to install on?
[12:11] <aussie_nutt> i was laughing at action with the /
[12:11] <smm289> naa, I want to upgrade to the latest version, its 2.0.X I have 1.5.6 and 1.5.6 is the only version listed in the add/remove programs section.
[12:11] <ruediix> gholm, that's a tough one, what type of system is it, and also run a check on the CD like mentioned above.
[12:11] <ruediix> gholm, of both pass, use an external hard drive.
[12:11] <mrbumba> that fixed the problem
[12:12] <mrbumba> thank you so much
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> smm289: then you can either compile it or find a repo with the newer one on. does 1.5.6 not work ok for you?
[12:12] <bazooka> i am glad my system is stable ... if you neglect the usb problem
[12:12] <MrKennie> halycon: what does uname -m say?
[12:12] <aussie_nutt> id stick with the 1.5
[12:12] <bazooka> lol
[12:13] <halycon> x86_64
[12:13] <mynameistux> what is the terminal command to find out network bandwidth usage
[12:13] <bazooka> that sounds interesting
[12:13] <MrKennie> then you are running a 64bit version of ubuntu and you have a 64bit processor.
[12:13] <smm289> Action: ya it works fine, it just has a few bugs, especially in seam-less mode and I think V2 address that, other than that its works perfect, but seeing that its not listed in the add/remove i will just leave it alone
[12:13] <aussie_nutt> smm - if not remove the virtualbox then go too sun site and get new one
[12:13] <bazooka> mynameistux:  good question
[12:14] <mynameistux> I need to keep an eye on what my server is using
[12:14] <smm289> I kinda need a couple of my XP programs and I dont want to mess up my VM by attempting an update
[12:15] <gholm> ActionParsnip: yeah md5 checked it, dlwlded the alternate disc & did the same... I'm AMD 64bit
[12:15] <smm289> i was hoping the update would be point, click, forget :)
[12:15] <gholm> drowner29_: AMD 64 bit
[12:15] <aussie_nutt> think it iftop
[12:15] <IamSOG> http://www.ubuntu-eee.com/index.php  <--- this is interseting I didn't know Ubuntu have this version :o
[12:15] <gholm> ruediix: external harddrive? as the system drive?
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> gholm: try booting the live cd with noacpi and nodma
[12:16] <gholm> ActionParsnip: noacpi and nodma ... I'll try it.. what's it mean?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> gholm: id also turn off as much hardwrae in bios to minimise unecessary detection
[12:16] <aktass> i installed ubuntu near pardus and then ubuntu installed its own GRUB but i want to use Pardus's GRUB. How Can i Fix it
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> gholm: turns of power management and direct memory access
[12:16] <gholm> ActionParsnip: OK.
[12:16] <mynameistux> ! I just figured somthing out
[12:16] <gholm> ActionParsnip: the live CD runs fine BTW... just freezes when it hits partitioning
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> gholm: it can be good to get systems installed then boot normally to see if its ok, it may have to be a permanent option
[12:16] <aussie_nutt> iftop -f icmp will find out how much bandwith users r wasting n y network slow
[12:17] <mynameistux> (does happy dance)
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> gholm: is your disk ok?
[12:17] <IamSOG> have anyone tried the ubuntu eee version ?
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> mynameistux: wtg :D
[12:17] <gholm> ActionParsnip: as far as I know....
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> IamSOG: yeah, its not bad at all
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> gholm: check the disk in the live environment
[12:17] <gholm> ActionParsnip: has been running WinXP fine with no complaints for about 4 months
[12:17] <mynameistux> I can fix my grub problems, by moving /boot to another partition, I am so smart
[12:17] <gholm> ActionParsnip: fsck?
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> IamSOG: i prefer puppy though
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> gholm: the same :D
[12:17] <gholm> ActionParsnip: kewl
[12:18] <IamSOG> Oh.. interseting
[12:18] <smm289> I have been running Wuala on linux for about a month now. And after I left things alone I am upto 19days and counting uptime with ubuntu.  the most I got from my vista install was about 12 days.  GO Ubuntu :)
[12:18] <mynameistux> XD
[12:19] <mynameistux> what is the terminal command to find out network bandwidth usage
[12:19] <foxyfox> Hey has anyone in here succeeded in installing the X-Fi 32bit drivers?  I've tried alot of posts/howtos and running out of ideas on what I'm doing wrong.
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> IamSOG: my other boxes have mandriva or kubuntu + fluxbox
[12:19] <aussie_nutt> wats ur main one action
[12:20] <smm289> !fluxbox
[12:20] <paul68> foxyfox nope still trying to figure it out
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> mynameistux: let me websearch
[12:20] <mynameistux> tanks
[12:21] <MrKennie> mynameistux: iftop
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> mynameistux: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man1/trafshow.html
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> !trafshow
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> !info trafshow
[12:21] <VSpike> I'm just looking into software raid and reading a few howtos but I'm confused and I think this may be because there are two sets of tools.  Am I right that /etc/raidtab, raidstop, raidstart and mkraid and part of one toolset, and mdadm is another toolset -- and they are not dependant on each other?  And that mdadm is the only one included in Ubuntu?
[12:21] <foxyfox> paul68 mind if we compare notes anyway?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> !raid | VSpike
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> mynameistux: thats in intrepid but maybe its in hardy
[12:22] <mirco> Hi all, I'ld like to use the pciback module on my Dom0 but it doesn't seem to be there... Someone a hint for me?
[12:22] <mynameistux> iftop is a program, installing now
[12:22] <mynameistux> on server
[12:22] <aktass> can someone help me?
[12:22] <aktass>  i installed ubuntu near pardus and then ubuntu installed its own GRUB but i want to use Pardus's GRUB. How Can i Fix it
[12:22] <paul68> foxyfox: I try to run the beta installer from the creative labs site however I get an Error 2 at the end
[12:22] <ganes> i want a diagrammatic represtation of ubuntu supports devices
[12:23] <paul68> and since then I still can't get it to work
[12:23] <aussie_nutt> make sure u read filters too for it works best that way tux
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> ganes: how do you mean?
[12:24] <paul68> foxyfox: also a newby on the linux so not willing to fool arround a lot to avoid reinstalling it afterwards
[12:24] <aktass> can someone help me?
[12:24] <aussie_nutt> that joys learning though
[12:24] <ganes> ActionParsnip, the diagram which should be useful for the user that ubuntu supports following devices
[12:24] <mynameistux> I might have to sift through the man pages to figure out how to understand the output, but it looks like exactly what I am looking for
[12:24] <mynameistux> thanks
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> aktass: you'll need to reinstall the grub that pardus uses
[12:24] <MrKennie> aktass: I would seek support via the usual pardus' grub channels
[12:25] <aussie_nutt> yw
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | ganes
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> ganes ^ how about a website instead
[12:25] <error404notfound> whenever I ssh to a new system, ubuntu asks me to add its key to the known_hosts, how to I disable that? I have commented out HashKnownHosts in /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: this may help http://wp.uberdose.com/2006/10/16/ssh-automatic-login/
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: why do you not want a key?
[12:26] <ganes> ActionParsnip, ubuntu os in central & the supported  devices attached to it
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> ganes: lspci
[12:27] <ganes> ActionParsnip, what you have is a text  format & i want the same in diagram
[12:27] <error404notfound> ActionParsnip: I am using a script to ssh to systems, and I don';t want to be prompted for that...
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> ganes: not heard of anything like that, lspci is all i know in that way
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> error404notfound: if you dont have any joy you could have something that handles it
[12:28] <error404notfound> ActionParsnip: I know about key based authorization, I just don't want to add that system's hash, prompting for password is dine..
[12:28] <billgoldberg> Hi, I need to get in touch with a mod or admin at the ubuntuforums.org, any here?
[12:28] <ganes> ActionParsnip,not lspci command .. i want the diagram which is general for ubnutu supports the external devices
[12:29] <ganes> ActionParsnip, it is general for the os architecture giagram
[12:29] <ganes> ActionParsnip, it is general for the os architecture diagram
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: help?
[12:29] <ikonia> billgoldberg: tons in #ubuntuforums
[12:29] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: what's up, sorry not been following
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: can you read what ganes is saying please
[12:30] <ikonia> ganes: you are looking for a diagram of supported devices for ubuntu ?
[12:30] <BonezAU> I just upgraded from Hardy to Intrepid, after booting the new kernel I get: Init: Error passing configuration: Input/Output error - Kernel Panic - Not syncing: Attempted to kill init! - I am able to boot the old hardy kernel but not the new one. Can anyone help?
[12:30] <ikonia> !intrepid | BonezAU
[12:30] <ganes> ikonia, yeah
[12:30] <drowner29_> ganes: do you mean in picture format? what do you mean 'diagram'?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: you have that on clipboard dont you
[12:31] <ikonia> ganes: I don't beleive that exists, I've certainly never seen or heard of it
[12:31] <ganes> drowner29_, yeah
[12:31] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: I just type like the wind
[12:31] <BonezAU> ikonia, I have been asking in +1 for the last hour with no response so I just thought i'd try here in case anyone could help me...
[12:31]  * ActionParsnip doesnt get why regular users are installing intrepid
[12:31] <AdvoWork> how can you count how many files are in a folder with ls? or cant you
[12:31] <drowner29_> ganes: what do you mean 'diagram?'
[12:31] <ikonia> BonezAU: +1 is the place, be patient people will get to you
[12:31] <ikonia> AdvoWork: ls | wc -l
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> AdvoWork: let me websearch
[12:31] <Pici> AdvoWork: ls -1 | wc -l
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> nice
[12:31] <aussie_nutt> i wont go to intrepid yet lmao
[12:32] <AdvoWork> cheers
[12:32] <ganes> drowner29_, diagram means
[12:32] <ganes> drowner29_, like putting box
[12:32] <ikonia> ganes: I don't think what you want exists
[12:32] <BonezAU> ikonia, no probs, thanks. ActionParsnip - i've used the last 3 beta's of Ubuntu with less problems than I can count on my both hands. I don't mind running in to trouble, it helps me learn how and why things break.
[12:32] <drowner29_> ganes: oh, so you want it presented in table format? or something like that?
[12:32] <night_time> Guys do u think that this can cause any danger ? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-use-more-than-3gb-ram-on-32-bit-ubuntu.html
[12:33] <aussie_nutt> that very true Bones
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> BonezAU: i work on computers all day so when im done i want zero problems, hence ubuntu
[12:33] <ikonia> night_time: danger - no
[12:33] <drowner29_> why don't you just go to the website recommended and do a search on the page?
[12:33] <ganes> ikonia, in one box os , next box webcam , another box iput devices .. like this
[12:33] <ikonia> ganes: ooh
[12:33] <ikonia> !hcl | ganes
[12:33] <aussie_nutt> i agree there action no hassles get enough during the day lol
[12:33] <BonezAU> ActionParsnip, I understand... I also work on computers all day, but they run Windows. I like to come home and dabble with Ubuntu. You can tell I don't have a girlfriend :P
[12:33] <Pici> night_time: no danger, but not all the restricted modules are available for the server kernel.
[12:34] <drowner29_> ikonia: I think ActionParsnip has already tried that ;)
[12:34] <aussie_nutt> oh so pc not one yet lol
[12:34] <ganes> ikonia, instead of putting webcam you can put webcam diagram
[12:34] <ikonia> ganes: doesn't exist
[12:34] <ikonia> ganes: your welcome to make one
[12:34] <Pici> ganes: There is no graphical reporesentation within the OS of what your hardware is... that I'm aware of at least.
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> BonezAU: i use windows for work too but i just like simplicity. Windows is ok for my needs too as I chat and browse
[12:34] <digifor> How do I know when sbackup has finished?
[12:35] <ganes> Pici, if there please give the link ..
[12:35] <ikonia> ganes: there isn't
[12:35] <Pici> ganes: There is none.
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> digifor: is there a config to make it email you on completion?
[12:35] <spx2> hi,I'm using vim in screen and vim is opening up very slowly,really really slow.what should I do in order to overcome this and why is this happening ?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> spx2: is there a folder named ~/.vim
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> spx2: cd ~/; ls -a
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> spx2: or something simila
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> r
[12:36] <spx2> ActionParsnip: lemme check that out
[12:36] <ikonia> !hcl | ganes
[12:36] <ikonia> ganes: use that as a template
[12:36] <ikonia> make your own
[12:36] <ikonia> it's just a matter of changing the words to pictures
[12:36] <aussie_nutt> cant stand windows anymore lol
[12:36] <ganes> ikonia, ok
[12:36] <aussie_nutt> action " wat work u do
[12:36] <aussie_nutt> :
[12:36] <error404notfound> so anything?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> aussie_nutt: i'll pm you, its offtopic
[12:36] <digifor> ActionParsnip, can't see anything like that.
[12:37] <aussie_nutt> ok
[12:37] <digifor> sbackup is 0.10.04 maybe in newer version?
[12:38] <digifor> df -la doesn't show any change on sdb1 for some time.
[12:38] <digifor> oops got to go. the missus has my dinner ready.
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> digifor: hmmm, you need to find out where the config for vim is and rename it, you will then get a stock set of settings
[12:39] <digifor> thanks
[12:39] <ChoK> Hello everyone
 Hello ChoK!
[12:39] <ChoK> I have a problem with power management
[12:39] <ikonia> hello EvanR_
[12:39] <dr_willis> vim config - /etc/vim/vimrc or the users   /home/username/.vimrc
[12:39] <ikonia> hello eveyone
[12:40] <r0nn1e> hi ikonia
[12:40] <ChoK> I have a T5800 Core 2 duo but I don't see a C3 state
[12:40] <ChoK> do they have one?
[12:40] <munkey092092> i have a development problem for you at ubuntu
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> digifor: ok, do you see the folder ~/.vimrc
[12:40] <ziroday> munckfish: what is your problem?
[12:40] <munkey092092> 3g modem support
[12:41] <ikonia> munkey092092: thats quite poor at the moment
[12:41] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip,  its a file. Not a directory.
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: bah, its just words to mv though ;)
[12:41] <munkey092092> it didnt recognise the 3g windows software ikonia
[12:41] <Fuzzybunn> Guys I am really confused as to whether I have a 64 bit machine... In Windows Vista it says I have a 32 bit operating system
[12:41] <Fuzzybunn> Ubuntu says I have a 64 bit machine
[12:41] <ikonia> munkey092092 it won't its windos software
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Fuzzybunn: you can run 32bit OS on 64bit CPU
[12:42] <cyrusgod> hi there, how can i add nm-applet to the painel again? please
[12:42] <munkey092092> ikonia - yeah but it said on the docs that all windows was supported
[12:42] <Fuzzybunn> ActionParsnip: Why would Sony have shipped it with a 32 bit version of windows if it is a 64 bit machine tho
[12:42] <munckfish> ziroday: just wanted to get other folks opinion on the matter. I note that there were changes in the kernel algorithms for IO scheduling and pre-emption since gutsy. Personally I feel my desktop is less responsive than it used to be
[12:42] <munkey092092> i use windows for the games myself but just let people know
[12:42] <ikonia> munckfish your uusing ubuntu - not windows
[12:42] <aussie_nutt> money iid say
[12:43] <munckfish> Yes Hardy
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Fuzzybunn: its a different os and a different price
[12:43] <hjpark> any package can logging traffic on port 80 ?
[12:43] <r0nn1e> Fuzzybunn: you be better installed 32bit os, cause not mush app is 64bit
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Fuzzybunn: 32bit is more supportd with plugins etc
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Fuzzybunn: ask sony
[12:43] <hjpark> i need to know the traffic on port 80 per day.
[12:43] <aussie_nutt> 64 bit windows id get on there
[12:43] <ziroday> munckfish: eh? Do you have the correct person?
[12:43] <aussie_nutt> but depending too wat u using pc for first
[12:43] <munckfish> ziroday, ikonia: in fact this was nearly my most favourite feature compared with windows
[12:43] <Fuzzybunn> r0nn1e: So in Ubuntu I keep getting all these wrong architecture error messages
[12:44] <erUSUL> !ntop | r0nn1e
[12:44] <erUSUL> !info ntop | r0nn1e
[12:44] <Fuzzybunn> wow I cant believe I have a 64 bit machine
[12:44] <munckfish> ziroday: you mentioned my name - said "what is your problem"
[12:44] <Fuzzybunn> I feel so dumb
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Fuzzybunn: they are fairly common now
[12:44] <munkey092092> arent all machhines 64 bit since a couple of years?
[12:44] <ziroday> munckfish: oh right :)
[12:44] <ziroday> munkey092092: No.
[12:44] <aussie_nutt> not all
[12:44] <hjpark> is ntop logging the traffic on file?
[12:44] <munckfish> ziroday: ok np
[12:44] <dr_willis> Fuzzybunn,  i always  use the 32bit distros on my 64bit machines.
[12:44] <aussie_nutt> but most
[12:44] <munckfish> :)
[12:44] <munckfish> nevermind
[12:44] <davidryder> the 64bit scene isn't ready for me
[12:45] <dr_willis> munkey092092,  most new ones are  yes.. some of the very low low end  ones out, may not be. :)
[12:45] <munkey092092> is it not rated by your cpu/ram?
[12:45] <munkey092092> like dual core 2 gigs is definitly 64bit?
[12:45]  * davidryder is installing Syllable
[12:45] <dr_willis> munkey092092,  yes. i would think so.. the 2gigs has nothing to do with it..
[12:45] <erUSUL> munkey092092: yes
[12:46] <erUSUL> munkey092092: the only no 64 bit new chip i can think of is the intel atom
[12:46] <munkey092092> haha
[12:46] <aussie_nutt> i prefer look at front side bus more
[12:46] <aussie_nutt> who cares of cpu numbers
[12:47] <munkey092092> for games you need it these days
[12:47] <munkey092092> (these days xD)
[12:47] <aussie_nutt> yeah true but dont play games lol
[12:47] <aussie_nutt> that wat sony 3 for
[12:48] <erUSUL> aussie_nutt: given that the fsb is going to disappear... (athlons get rid of fsb long ago and intel is going the same path with nahalem)
[12:48] <empo> hi all
[12:48] <munkey092092> i paid 200 euro for a new nvidea board with dual core and 8800 gt ps3 is 5 or 600
 Hello empo!
[12:48] <empo> hello 2
[12:48] <munkey092092> board and box whole computer...
[12:48] <empo> thx
[12:49] <aussie_nutt> when they disappear they disappear
[12:49]  * davidryder has left the room (quit: bored)
[12:49] <aussie_nutt> things only get faster and better
[12:50] <davidryder> scampbell: shane?
[12:50] <grygora> whois error404notfound
[12:50] <munkey092092> i sold a cpu to someone i had to give the money back cos i said the wrong fsb =-O
[12:50] <aussie_nutt> i still own 386 and commedore 64
[12:50] <drowner29_> i have an amstrad cpc 464 around at mum's place
[12:50] <error404notfound> grygora: its with "/" :P
[12:50] <grygora> error404notfound: if there use BatchMode yes
[12:50] <dr_willis> aussie_nutt,  i have several C64s and vic20's
[12:50] <aussie_nutt> nice lil unix machines
[12:50] <munkey092092> hey do you play battle chess? it takes 10 kins a move on 2.4 ghz
[12:50] <phpstar> hello everyone
 Hello phpstar!
[12:50] <munkey092092> you can get the whole collection of home computer on dvds
[12:51] <phpstar> i m not able to tunnel through firefox in my SSH server
[12:51] <phpstar> can anyone suggest me y
[12:51] <grygora> error404: yes, did not know if u signoff
[12:52] <phpstar> ! ssh
[12:52] <munkey092092> i have the whole sinclair spectrums on one dvd missing one or two out of thousands http://worldofspectrum.org/
[12:52] <munkey092092> :-D
[12:53] <Pici> !offtopic
[12:53] <munkey092092> sorry
[12:53] <aussie_nutt> just set firefox use socks proxy
[12:53] <munkey092092> cyas
[12:53] <prodigel> Hi all. I have a problem with my numeric keyboard: with num lock numerical keys work, plus,minus don't; without num lock plus/minus works, numerical ones don't. This is happening only in gnome. How can I fix this?
[12:53] <aussie_nutt> otherwards localhost
[12:54] <phpstar> aussie i have already tried forwarding port 8080 but still nuthing happening :(
[12:55] <aussie_nutt> do something like shh -D 9999 username@ip-adress-of-ssh-server
[12:55] <phpstar> when i SSh localhost it works fine
[12:56] <phpstar> from firefox its not happening
[12:57] <aussie_nutt> and uve uses the -D flag of openshh to create a socks prox
[12:57] <aussie_nutt> proxy
[12:57] <Anarhist> hello, there seem to be a problem trying to connect to a wireless network from a laptop, right after disabling and then reenabling the wireless network, different networks show up, but then within seconds of enabling one of them everything breaks down and there is no connection, not even a list of available wireless networks
[12:58] <erUSUL> Anarhist: smething in the logs? "dmesg"
[12:59] <aussie_nutt> why are u that paranoid anyway lol
[12:59] <marnanel> Paranoid is good :)
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> overkill isnt
[12:59] <aussie_nutt> yeah rite most ppl do it so they use it for bad reasons
[12:59] <dr_willis> Theres Paranoid, then theres TinFoilHat Paranoid.
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: that still makes me laugh
[13:00] <Anarhist> erUSUL, there are a lot of "link not ready" messages, what does that mean?
[13:00] <aussie_nutt> if that paranoid set up honeypots and all
[13:00] <marnanel> apt updated my kernel and now I don't have wifi or sound.  Is there anything obvious I can do to get them back?  I don't really know where to start.
[13:00]  * marnanel had to go digging for cat5 just to get here to ask
[13:00] <erUSUL> Anarhist: dunno for sure could be just that the driver for your wifi card is not very stable yet
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> marnanel: id do whatever you did to get your wifi working the first time
[13:00] <aussie_nutt> best advice ever learnt is doesnt matter wat u do if someone wants get ya they get ya
[13:00] <natalisushka> HI, I am having a problem with my VPN connectino on ubuntu. I have vpn installed, and it appears in the network manager. Before it worked fine with my ISP who allowed connecting to the LAN using roaming mode, and so when I clicked on the VPN account that they gave me, the network Icon would change when connected .. but they disabled the roaming mode and forced manual configuration (IP address, subnet mask, gateway, dns ...) .. so whe
[13:01] <natalisushka> n I put these configs,I can login to the LAN, but when I try to connect to VPN nothing happens! No connection (to WAN) .. Icon does not change either! Why is that?
[13:01] <marnanel> ActionParsnip: It worked out of the box, iirc.
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> aussie_nutt: not if you are detatched from any networking at all
[13:01] <aussie_nutt> true there
[13:01] <aussie_nutt> best protection ther pull plug lol
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> marnanel: id boot to the good system and see what is used by each device
[13:01] <grygora> error404notfound: worked 4 me, ssh -a  -o 'StrictHostKeyChecking no'  -o 'BatchMode yes' hostname
[13:01] <marnanel> ActionParsnip: thanks
[13:02] <lunaphyte_> how can i unmount a filesystem mounted with smbmount? no matter what i do, i only get the message "This utility only unmounts cifs filesystems."
[13:02] <litdream> Anyone knows how to change space property of a TTF font?
[13:02] <dr_willis> lunaphyte_,  that tool is for unmounting windows shares/samba shares.. not local physical filesystems.
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> lunaphyte_: smbumount maybe?
[13:03] <erUSUL> Anarhist: what wifi chip do you have?
[13:03] <lunaphyte_> yes, i've tried umount, smbumount, umount.cifs
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> lunaphyte_: try typing smb then press tab, see what looks decent
[13:03] <AwaDoV> i have a critical problem with Ubuntu Gusty ... and this problem is  ( there is no panel exist and i can't access anything just my computer .. no App i couldn't switch between window withour Alt+Tab ) .. so please Help
[13:03] <X3> Hi Ladies and Germes
[13:04] <Anarhist> erUSUL, don't know... q;-)
[13:04] <AwaDoV> is there is any one free yo help me
[13:04] <xomp> quick question, is it possible to use gparted on my ubuntu system to make a quick 4Gb partition so I may triple boot with another OS? Currently dual booting XP & Hardy.
[13:04] <erUSUL> Anarhist: "lshw -C Network"
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> lunaphyte_: try lsof /path/to/mount
[13:04] <lunaphyte_> the share appears in the output of mount, listed as type cifs, yet when i try to use the utilities intended for unmounting cifs filesystems, i get that message.  it seems completely contradictory.
[13:04] <erUSUL> xomp: yep
[13:04] <drowner29_> awadov: ask away. i won't know the answer, but someone might
[13:04] <X3> I had Hardy installed upgraded to intrepid Ibex Beta on a triple boot system and I cant boot to IBEX the same way I booted to Hardy
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> lunaphyte_: if no files are open then sudo umount -f /path/to/mount
[13:05] <xomp> erUSUL, sweet :) Thanks! Is there a guide you know of to help me though it? :-)
[13:05] <erUSUL> X3: #ubuntu+1
[13:05] <Anarhist> erUSUL, it came up right now
[13:05] <X3> k thx
[13:05] <Anarhist> i don't know for how long though
[13:05] <erUSUL> xomp: guide for partitioning?
[13:05] <AwaDoV> drowner29: where i can find help ?
[13:05] <lunaphyte_> ActionParsnip: when i try to force it ( -f ), i get that message repeated 3 times.
[13:05] <drowner29_> awadov: just ask the question
[13:05] <xomp> erUSUL, well, I have gparted installed but don't think it will let me, maybe I need to boot to the live cd to do the partitioning?
[13:06] <AwaDoV> how i can get my basic panels again ?
[13:06] <AwaDoV> coz there is no panel exist !
[13:06] <erUSUL> xomp: do you have the unpartitioned space or do you have to shrink an existing partition to make room?
[13:06] <wtgee> Hola todos....I am trying to sign up up to be an ubuntero but 'gpg --send-keys' doesn't seem to be doing anything for me, any thoughts?
[13:06] <erUSUL> !resetpanels
[13:06] <lunaphyte_> i've found a fair amount of chatter regarding this behavior on various web sites, but haven't been able to find a method to successfully unmount without rebooting.
[13:06] <xomp> erUSUL, I'll have to shrink an existing partition :(
[13:07] <AwaDoV> i can't access terminall
[13:07] <AwaDoV> no panel and Alt+F2 doesn't work
[13:07] <erUSUL> xomp: then do it, carefully, from a livecd
[13:07] <drowner29_> xomp: use a liveCD then, you won't be able to unmount the partitions currently in use. if that makes sense. backup first!
[13:07] <erUSUL> AwaDoV: Alt + Crtl + F1
[13:07] <linny> AwaDoV cant you login in text mode and start gnome and xserver manually ? waht did you do to it last btw ?
[13:08] <xomp> erUSUL, drowner29_ danke! I will try with the livecd.
[13:08] <AwaDoV> i don't know .. i did nothing
[13:08] <wtgee> AwaDov: Ctrl-Alt-F1 to another tty and restart gnome-panel
[13:08] <AwaDoV> how i can access the test mode ?
[13:08] <erUSUL> xomp: bitte ? (/me never know for sure ;))
[13:08] <erUSUL> AwaDoV: Alt + Crtl + F1
[13:08] <phpstar> can anyone tip me why my server is refusing connection from firefox
[13:09] <AwaDoV> when i try this command be4 gconftool --recursive-unset/apps.panel && killall gnome-panel
[13:09] <AwaDoV> its reply
[13:09] <AwaDoV> kill no process
[13:09] <xomp> erUSUL, you said 'please'? heh
[13:10] <erUSUL> AwaDoV: well that's becouse gnome-panel was not running
[13:10] <AwaDoV> then
[13:10] <erUSUL> xomp: oooops ;P
[13:10] <AwaDoV> what i should do ?
[13:10] <xomp> erUSUL, gern geschehen = you're welcome :D
[13:10] <JuJuBee> Anybody familiar with cssh ?
[13:10] <xomp> np buddy, thanks for your help
[13:10]  * erUSUL writtes that down
[13:10] <ghaleb> hello, how can I forward the console output to a specified to another screen ?
[13:11] <laptop_> Sooo,
[13:11] <AwaDoV> write what ?
[13:11] <natalisushka> HI, I am having a problem with my VPN connectino on ubuntu. I have vpn installed, and it appears in the network manager. Before it worked fine with my ISP who allowed connecting to the LAN using roaming mode, and so when I clicked on the VPN account that they gave me, the network Icon would change when connected .. but they disabled the roaming mode and forced manual configuration (IP address, subnet mask, gateway, dns ...) ..
[13:11] <natalisushka> so when I put these configs,I can login to the LAN, but when I try to connect to VPN nothing happens! No connection (to WAN) .. Icon does not change either! Why is that?
[13:11] <aussie_nutt> if it wasnt working wouldnt it come up in firefox that it refused connection
[13:11] <phpstar> aussie_nutt PM ??
[13:12] <securetmp> how to disable perl execution on users directory ?
[13:14] <spongy25> hi german people here?
[13:14] <Pici> !de | spongy25
[13:14] <erUSUL> securetmp: keep home on separate partition and mount with noexec flag ? either way they can do "perl script.pl" and bypass that afaics
[13:14] <spongy25> quit
[13:15] <erUSUL> AwaDoV: dunno hwhat may be wrong... can you go to terminal and create another user. log in with that user and see if it fails too
[13:15] <AwaDoV> how i can add more users over the terminal
[13:15] <AwaDoV> ?
[13:16] <dr_willis> AwaDoV,  sudo adduser USERNAME
[13:16] <dr_willis> or was it 'useradd' some disrtos have both.
[13:17] <shingouz> any nice tool that i could use to create a "rescueDVD" of an ubuntu system? the resulting dvd should be such that it partitions, formats and reinstalls the *exact* system with no user intervention except possibly the question "you sure?"
[13:17] <linny> remastersys
[13:19] <dr_willis> shingouz,  mondo/mindi can make a dvd restore set to restore/clone a system
[13:20] <dr_willis> be sure to clean out the caches/tmp/other useless dirs befor making an archive. :)
[13:21]  * marnanel returns...
[13:22] <sandstrom> How can I traverse a directory removing all windows newlines?
[13:22] <sandstrom> (inside files that is)
[13:22] <peace> hello:) could anyone help me a bit.. ;))
[13:23] <jim_p> peace: yes
[13:23] <peace> im trying to unrar but i have a hard time..
[13:23] <peace> unrar x filename works.. if i unrar a thing that has many parts..then the unrared stuff has the size of the part.. example 15mb...
[13:23] <peace> i have installed rar..unrar..and unrar-nonfree.. :|
[13:24] <jim_p> peace: no gui at all?
[13:24] <peace> no what? gui?
[13:24] <jim_p> peace: a frontend like fileroller or ark otr xarchiver
[13:25] <nnull> use file roller, add type "rar" into synatpic for example and download the pack if ".rar"s dont work
[13:25] <marnanel> Apparently what I need to do is install the iwlwifi kernel driver (which replaces the old ipw3945 driver).  "lsmod|grep iwlwifi" shows I don't have it.  "modprobe iwlwifi" says the module's not found.  My kernel is now 2.6.24-19-386, and the upstream site for the driver says iwlwifi is included in the 2.6.24 kernel.  So why doesn't modprobe see it?
[13:25] <LinuxReign> peace, if you have several rar files that together make big final one, just choose the very first one with a right click and go to Extract here
[13:26] <remoteCTR1> can i somehow make open office turn the page 90° so that i write in landscape format?
[13:26] <LinuxReign> assuming that you have unrar already installed fo course
[13:26] <peace> hm..there is no extract here like in windows.. and i already have installed rar via adept.. unrar and unrar-nonfree from synaptic
[13:26] <KenBW22> anyone know of a linux virtualisation software that allows you to do what you can on the two main mac one which is run your real windows partition virtualised
[13:28] <jim_p> KenBW22: vmware server can do it for sure, i dont know if vobx or some other vmware app does it
[13:29] <peace> ok..i managed somehow.. for the love of god please remember to advice to those who gets same problem... ( to select all rars and check them as executable ) this solves the mistery of suffering :|
[13:30] <mib_rqfvn1> hello how can i see free space in my box? i dont have X.
[13:30] <bimberi> mib_rqfvn1: 'df -h'
[13:30] <erUSUL> mib_rqfvn1: df -h
[13:30] <mib_rqfvn1> ok thans
[13:31] <remoteCTR1> ok guys dont bother i found it:)
[13:31] <khoder> bonjour à tous
[13:31] <erUSUL> remoteCTR1: who would have guessed it was in format>page ;P
[13:32] <scampbell> davidryder: I remember the movie but other than that I don't know what you mean by "Shane?"
[13:32] <erUSUL> !fr | khoder
[13:32] <remoteCTR1> erUSUL: we got a saying in austria; not to see the forest because of all of them trees in the way:P
[13:32] <erUSUL> remoteCTR1: true :)
[13:33] <AlinuxOS> hello, I've a Macbook and I would like to use 3 OS on it. MacOSX, Ubuntu and Fedora.
[13:33] <AlinuxOS> is it possible ?
[13:34] <jim_p> AlinuxOS: yea. install the 2 linuxes last
[13:34] <jim_p> AlinuxOS: and grub will take care of the rest
[13:34] <erUSUL> AlinuxOS: i do not see why not
[13:35] <AlinuxOS> jim_p, but I can't have more then 4 partitions right ?
[13:35] <AlinuxOS> REFit can't manage more then 4 partitions.
[13:35] <KenBW22> AlinuxOS: you can create an extended partition
[13:35] <AlinuxOS> 1partition OSX, 2nd Ubuntu, 3d Fedora 4 DATA
[13:36] <jim_p> AlinuxOS: you can have up to 4 PRIMARY partitions and as many logical ones as you like.
[13:36] <AlinuxOS> I alsa want to have DATA separated partition.
[13:36] <jim_p> AlinuxOS: does mac need a swap partition? you will need a swap partition for the linuxes!!
[13:36] <AlinuxOS> jim_p, what about REFIT ?
[13:36] <AlinuxOS> jim_p, yes swap for linuxes.
[13:36] <erUSUL> AlinuxOS: yu need the swap partition for the linuxes
[13:36] <generalBordeaux_> can anyone point me to a setup howto for "Installing ubuntu over the network" ?
[13:36] <jim_p> AlinuxOS: make that swap partiion common
[13:37] <erUSUL> !install
[13:37] <AlinuxOS> aha , and DATA ?
[13:37] <jim_p> AlinuxOS: what is REFIT?
[13:37] <generalBordeaux_> erUSUL, thanks :)
[13:37] <waj> can we run Office 2007 on Ubuntu?
[13:37] <vr8mf> how can i see what app running?
[13:37] <jim_p> waj: nope
[13:38] <AlinuxOS> jim_p, it's mac boot manager.
[13:38] <jim_p> waj: not even with wine. ms !@#$%^ piece of software
[13:38] <waj> will wine/Crossover app help, by any chance?
[13:38] <erUSUL> !appdb | waj
[13:38] <AlinuxOS> jim_p, ok I'll try it now.
[13:38] <jim_p> AlinuxOS: oh. grub will take care of him!
[13:39] <jim_p> ok
[13:39] <AlinuxOS> thank yuo!
[13:39] <jim_p> vr8mf: top, htop, or gnome-system-monitor
[13:40] <waj> Is there any C IDE for Ubuntu like TurboC in Windows
[13:41] <waj> Is there any C IDE for Ubuntu like TurboC in Windows
[13:42] <SlimeyPete> you mean command-line based?
[13:42] <saurabh> is there any way to enable pretty fonts in gnome-terminal? i use gvim, but i want the fonts to look the same in gnome-terminal
[13:42] <vr8mf> jim_p : and how can i open an process from there? cause it is a program wich i cant open
[13:43] <erUSUL> saurabh: choose the font you want on the gnome-terminal preferences
[13:43] <jim_p> vr8mf: you can launch an app from the terminal or alt+f2
[13:43] <erUSUL> saurabh: Edit Current Profile
[13:43] <beli> waj: there are many...checkout anjuta for example
[13:43] <saurabh> erUSUL: the fonts are same both but gvim fonts look slicker
[13:44] <waj> is anjuta included in the repository, by default??
[13:44] <saurabh> erUSUL: does terminal support font smoothing?
[13:45] <erUSUL> saurabh: yep afaics (not that i care much i use a fixed font called terminus)
[13:45] <erUSUL> waj: yes
[13:45] <erUSUL> !info anjuta > waj
[13:47] <erUSUL> waj: if you want something like old turboC for DOS use xwpe
[13:47] <erUSUL> !info xwpe | waj
[13:47] <rsc-> !info xnest
[13:49] <Pici> !netsplit
[13:50] <Flamelor> ubottu is cool! relax and enjoy
[13:50] <linny> see anything where ?
[13:50] <vr8mf> linny: on desktop
[13:51] <vr8mf> linny: in backgroun gnome said is rsleepinf
[13:51] <pronoy_> ok and we are back
[13:51] <Gin> wow
[13:52] <vallhalla81> !hello
[13:52] <vallhalla81> bot broken?#
[13:52] <Mitchell_Hancock> I did having some clicking noises and with some errors.
[13:52] <saurabh> erUSUL: found the problem, i had the terminal a little transparent thanks
[13:52] <erUSUL> saurabh: ok; no problem
[13:52] <Indoctrine> What's the support for Netgear PCI wireless cards like in Ubuntu?
[13:52] <mehteenager> !netsplit
[13:52] <Mitchell_Hancock> OMG this server went dead lol
[13:53] <KenBW22> busy in here...
[13:53] <Mitchell_Hancock> Anyone else had a 8.04.1 to 8.10 problem as well?
[13:53] <Pici> !ibex | Mitchell_Hancock
[13:53] <thiebaude> wow
[13:53] <Gin> is 8.10 out?
[13:53] <KenBW22> Gin: not till the 30th
[13:53] <soundray> !intrepid > Gin
[13:53] <thiebaude> gin:oct 30
[13:54] <KenBW22> Gin: the beta is out
[13:54] <vallhalla81> !server
[13:55] <Indoctrine> !wireless support
[13:55] <Pici> !wifi | Indoctrine
[13:55] <Indoctrine> !wireless
[13:55] <MrObvious> !netsplit
[13:55] <Indoctrine> Tch
[13:55] <Mitchell_Hancock> well I do know 8.04.1 have some broken stuff. Like SAVAGE The Battle for Newerth won't stay in full screen mode. Keep switching window mode and then back to full screen mode.
[13:56] <Mitchell_Hancock> What causes that?
[13:56] <Indoctrine> Aww BOLLOCKS
[13:56] <Indoctrine> My card won't work out of box. :(
[13:57] <Gin> Indoctrine, what card?
[13:57] <Mitchell_Hancock> Some games won't run at all when I click on their start up.
[13:58] <Doc8404> im on a 2006 toshiba satellite laptop. and its got two sticks of 512. does anyone here know what the max per slot is? its only got two slots and im thinking of going to 4 gigs total so i can up this thing to 64bit? any ideas?
[13:59] <aussie_nutt> think 1 gig
[14:00] <AdvoWork> does this look like a symlink type thing? ls:  completed_work -> /home/completed_work/
[14:00] <KenBW22> yea
[14:00] <soundray> Doc8404: this is really a question for ##hardware -- but you should check out the web sites of vendors like Crucial and Kingston -- they have laptop databases that you can query.
[14:00] <AdvoWork> can you change a symlink? or do you have to del and remake?
[14:00] <aussie_nutt> 1 gig
[14:00] <Doc8404> thanks
[14:01] <chili> sup all
[14:01] <drowner29_> hello
[14:01] <Guest14046> anyone running on an itoucj
[14:01] <Guest14046> touch*
[14:01] <drowner29_> Hi again
[14:01] <drowner29_> wait
[14:01] <Guest14046> hi
[14:01] <drowner29_> Hi everyone!
[14:02] <Guest14046> LOL
[14:02] <erUSUL> AdvoWork: remove and relink
[14:02] <drowner29_> :(
[14:02] <Guest14046> brb
[14:02] <thiebaude> :)
[14:03] <chilli0_> back
[14:03] <chilli0_> foo
[14:03] <pronoy_> what channel is there for Cairo Dock ???
[14:03] <chilli0_> idk
[14:03] <thiebaude> !cairo dock
[14:04] <balle_> none of my USB ports work correctly and when i plug in a mouse it is really slow moving and only partially visible on the screen, does anybody know how to fix this?
[14:04] <balle_> hey, none of my USB ports work correctly and when i plug in a mouse it is really slow moving and only partially visible on the screen, does anybody know how to fix this?
[14:04] <thiebaude> hi p_quarles
[14:04] <Pede> jj
[14:04] <eke> hello :D
[14:04] <Mitchell_Hancock> When 8.04 will be fix?
[14:05] <soundray> Mitchell_Hancock: that's a very poor support question. Describe your problem instead.
[14:06] <IdleOne> Mitchell_Hancock: what about 8.04 is broken?
[14:06] <thiebaude> mitchell_hancock:what is your question? :)
[14:06] <Mitchell_Hancock> Some of the games won't boot at all. SAVAGE The Battle for Newerth won't stay in full screen mode. Keep switching window mode and then back to full screen mode. What causes that?
[14:07] <Mitchell_Hancock> Nvidia is what I have
[14:07] <soundray> Mitchell_Hancock: are they Windows games?
[14:07] <seps1816> So I set up a password on my wifi and now my network doesnt seem to work, Any ideas?
[14:07] <Mitchell_Hancock> No
[14:07] <Mitchell_Hancock> I don't use wine
[14:07] <bastid_raZor> pronoy_; on SorceryNet #cairo-dock-fr .. but they are never there. it is better if you goto their forums http://cairo-dock.org/
[14:08] <thiebaude> mitchell_hancock:how much memory does your computer have?
[14:08] <drowner29_> how is babby formed?
[14:08] <Mitchell_Hancock> 3 gb
[14:08] <pronoy_> bastid_raZor: thanks
[14:08] <soundray> Mitchell_Hancock: are you using the NVidia closed driver?
[14:08] <drowner29_> how is babby formed?
[14:08] <balle_> hey, none of my USB ports work correctly and when i plug in a mouse it is really slow moving and only partially visible on the screen, does anybody know how to fix this?
[14:08] <drowner29_> :D
[14:08] <thiebaude> mitchell_hancock:plenty of memory
[14:08] <IdleOne> drowner29_: ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:08] <Pici> drowner29_: This is the Ubuntu Support Channel, please keep your questions on-topic.  If you just want to chat, #ubuntu-offtopic is the place.
[14:08] <drowner29_> sorry
[14:08] <Mitchell_Hancock> NVidia closed driver? I did install what Ubuntu show
[14:09] <soundray> Mitchell_Hancock: did you go through System-Administration-Hardware Drivers?
[14:09] <Mitchell_Hancock> Yea
[14:10] <Mitchell_Hancock> How you think I got it install lol
[14:10] <soundray> Mitchell_Hancock: don't play smart
[14:10] <soundray> Mitchell_Hancock: after all it's you who wants help, not me
[14:10] <thiebaude> exactly soundray
[14:10] <Rando_> I have a Lexmark Z51 printer connected to a Hardy machine via USB. I'm running into print jobs that are continually getting "stuck" in the print queue, and once a job is stuck no other jobs will print. It just keep spitting out the same job over and over again. The printer is rather old, and it's sounding like it's time to buy a new printer, can anyone suggest a relatively cheap inkjet that has good support in Ubuntu?
[14:10] <Mitchell_Hancock> I just saying at the top of the screen ask me to install Nvidia
[14:11] <KenBW22> Rando_: i know for a fact that HPs are plug n play. theyre not cheap though
[14:11] <soundray> Mitchell_Hancock: can you rephrase that? Also, use my nick so I don't miss your replies when it gets busy
[14:11] <IdleOne> !hardware > Rando_ check out this link
[14:11] <thiebaude> rando:one thing i have to say about lexmark printers, they are not ubuntu friendly
[14:12] <KenBW22> thiebaude: and the cartidges are outrageously prices too
[14:12] <KenBW22> priced*
[14:12] <Mitchell_Hancock> Never mind. I will uninstall it and wait on the next release.
[14:12] <thiebaude> ken:soo true, i have a lexmark printer that is gathering dust
[14:12] <Rando_> Idleone: Thank you for the link - I will give it a read and take things from there.
[14:13] <soundray> Mitchell_Hancock: thanks for wasting my time
[14:13] <thiebaude> kenbw22:plus it wont work on ubuntu
[14:13] <thiebaude> plus
[14:13] <IdleOne> Rando_: like KenBW22 HP are plug n play
[14:13] <thiebaude> darn smiley face,lol
[14:13] <Mitchell_Hancock> Waste you time lol Your here.
[14:14] <bastid_raZor> Mitchell_Hancock; you're != your
[14:14] <soundray> Mitchell_Hancock: next time, make up your mind before you ask for help
[14:14] <balle_> my usb ports all say 000.000 stuff even though i have connected various stuff to it, how do i "enable" my USB ports?
[14:14] <IdleOne> Mitchell_Hancock: here to help not try and help and be told but someone to lazy to try that they give up
[14:14] <Mitchell_Hancock> I did you didn't catch my post
[14:14] <Rando_> KenBW22: Are *all* HP printers plug and play?
[14:15] <thiebaude> mitchell_hancock:we are here to answer questions-If we can
[14:15] <soundray> Mitchell_Hancock: I caught all your pointless posts
[14:15] <balle_> my usb ports all say 000.000 stuff even though i have connected various stuff to it, how do i "enable" my USB ports?
[14:15] <Mitchell_Hancock> I guest you don't have Savage game install then
[14:16] <KenBW22> Rando_: pass, but the tw ive tried have worked
[14:16] <KenBW22> two
[14:17] <Mitchell_Hancock> It ether Nvidia driver screw up or the game is outdated
[14:17] <hezzer792> Hey
[14:17] <KenBW22> Rando_: i find https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/ invaluable
[14:17] <hezzer792> Hello
[14:18] <IdleOne> hello hezzer792
[14:18] <hezzer792> do u play The Mana World?
[14:18] <student> siema łyse huje
[14:18] <drowner29_> no
[14:18] <IdleOne> student: english please
[14:18] <thecarlhall> When using tab completion how can I get it to always ignore .svn folders?
[14:18] <soundray> !pl | student
[14:18] <hezzer792> do u play any online game for Ubuntu
[14:18] <Mitchell_Hancock> brb I going to uninstall ubuntu. Btw: I never had this problem on 7.04
[14:18] <drowner29_> bye mitchell.
[14:18] <milka> d
[14:19] <student> siema
[14:19] <milka> elo
[14:19] <Pici> !pl | student
[14:19] <milka> czlowiek w zelaznej masce
[14:19] <kmj> elo
[14:19] <kmj> elo
[14:19] <turtle> what codec do I need burn audio CDs?
[14:19] <kmj> maliniak
[14:19] <FloodBot3> kmj: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:19] <milka> zelazna maska xD
[14:19] <fat_rat> milka: student: are you talkin' with yourself? lol ;]
[14:19] <lordleemo>
[14:19] <Zeldo> Hello,
[14:20] <Mitchell_Hancock> I not leaving lol
[14:20] <Mitchell_Hancock> It uninstall now
[14:20] <turtle> i need help with brasero
[14:20] <Zeldo> Can anyone help me with ndiswrapper?
[14:20] <thiebaude> !brasero
[14:21] <soundray> turtle: what are you trying to do?
[14:21] <sriramoman> is gambas being used by the community for development?
[14:21] <Tim1_> ndis as related to novell
[14:21] <fat_rat> Mitchell_Hancock: but you should leave, it's not your world, go back to windows kiddo...
[14:21] <gribouille> hi
[14:21] <soundray> fat_rat: don't, please
[14:22] <ikonia> /last ljl
[14:22] <ikonia> oops
[14:22] <gribouille> can someone tell me why firefox takes 25 % of the CPU ?
[14:22] <fat_rat> soundray: sorry i just lost it :/
[14:22] <IdleOne> fat_rat: everybody starts somewhere. please don't start any OS wars in here
[14:22] <denialh> gribouille, flash applets probably :'(
[14:22] <ikonia> gribouille: watching a flash video ?
[14:22] <soundray> fat_rat :)
[14:22] <Tim1_> what kind of cpu is that
[14:22] <Tim1_> quad core
[14:22] <Tim1_> or amd
[14:22] <sriramoman> gribouille, flash video?
[14:23] <Mitchell_Hancock> I have Intel Core 2 Quad
[14:23] <gribouille> no, flash is disabled
[14:23] <LjL> student, milka, serwis, kmj: Witaj. Ten kanał jest jedynie wsparcie techniczne dla Ubuntu. Jeśli potrzebujesz wsparcia technicznego w języku polskim, wprowadź #ubuntu-pl. Jeśli chcesz rozmawiać ze sobą, wprowadź #test.
[14:23] <soundray> turtle: please keep it in the channel. You could attach your tapedeck to the lineout of your soundcard and save a CD-R
[14:23] <fat_rat> IdleOne: but just not be so ignorant...
[14:23] <LjL>  /first ikonia
[14:23] <IdleOne> fat_rat: ???
[14:23] <ikonia> LjL ;)
[14:24] <turtle> would a headphones jack work?
[14:24] <fat_rat> IdleOne: that guy should be more humble (sorry 4 my english)
[14:25] <IdleOne> fat_rat: :) no problem
[14:25] <turtle> soundray: would headphones jack work?
[14:25] <sriramoman> guys, pls don't apologise for language problem. This is a community forum and not some military place.
[14:25] <turtle> soundray: i dont have that cable
[14:25] <soundray> turtle: probably, it depends on your tapedeck/cassette recorder
[14:26] <soundray> turtle: 3.5mm jack to phono? They aren't hard to get
[14:26] <denialh> sriramoman: well said ;-)
[14:26] <thiebaude> yup denialh
[14:27] <jimcooncat> doing some preseed installs, is there any way to automate putting my public ssh key into the default users ~/.ssh/authorized_keys ?
[14:28] <Zeldo> Can anyone help me with my wireless card/ndiswrapper?
[14:28] <vock> i'm having a problem with ssh: I opened up the ports on my linksys router, disabled ubuntu firewall with firestarter, and started the ssh server, but whenever i try and connect to myself via a doman from dyndns.org, i keep getting a connection refused, any ideas?
[14:29] <pilot419> hallo
[14:29] <Pici> jimcooncat: I'm not sure if this would work, but I think you might be able to put it in /etc/skel/
[14:29] <thiebaude> pilot419:did you have a question
[14:29] <thiebaude> did
[14:29] <Pici> jimcooncat: i.e.: /etc/skel/.ssh/authorized_keys  (may want to google the use of the skel directory though, but it should work)
[14:29] <Zeldo> Can anyone help me with my wireless card/ndiswrapper?
[14:30] <soundray> !anyone | Zeldo
[14:30] <jimcooncat> Pici: that would be alright (and give me access to all future accounts) but debian-installer has already made the default users /home dir by then
[14:30] <IndyGunFreak> Zeldo: well, what is your wireless device
[14:30] <Pici> jimcooncat: hmm
[14:30] <pilot419> ya i have a question
[14:30] <Zeldo> Broadcom wireless
[14:30] <Pici> jimcooncat: I'm not really familiar with the installer, sorry :/
[14:30] <jimcooncat> Pici: I guess I should just package up a script?
[14:30] <Zeldo> I used the built in driver, and it was slow
[14:31] <Pici> jimcooncat: That would work too.
[14:31] <IndyGunFreak> !broadcom | Zeldo
[14:31] <soundray> pilot419: go ahead
[14:31] <Zeldo> so I looked it up
[14:31] <Zeldo> and tried to do the NDISWrapper one
[14:31] <Zeldo> BUT
[14:31] <jimcooncat> thanks Pici
[14:31] <Zeldo> it failed, (It wont let me install NDISWrapper)
[14:31] <Pici> !enter
[14:31] <pilot419> i hav a problem wuth audio driver in ubuntu 8.04
[14:31] <Pici> !ask | pilot419
[14:32] <guysoft42> hey all, i seem to have the following error in my repository when running $ reprepro check:Internal error of the underlying BerkleyDB database:  Within packages.db subtable hardy|main|i386 at c_get(DB_NEXT): DB_PAGE_NOTFOUND: Requested page not found . what to do?
[14:32] <Zeldo> make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-19-generic'
[14:32] <Zeldo> scripts/Makefile.build:46: *** CFLAGS was changed in "/home/zeldo/ndiswrapper-1.46/driver/Makefile". Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS. Stop.
[14:32] <soundray> pilot419: ubottu will send you a few links. Follow the Troubleshooting guide, and ask more specifically if you hit a snag.
[14:32] <pilot419> o i'm new here
[14:32] <soundray> !sound > pilot419
[14:33] <thiebaude> pilot419:what is your question, and we'll try to answer it
[14:33] <Mechdave> Zeldo, It is best to use a pastebin to keep the channel clearer try http://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:33] <Zeldo> I didn't mean to post two lines
[14:33] <alanbshepard77> ?join #ubuntu
[14:34] <onats> what's the best pdf reader for linux/ubuntu?
[14:34] <pilot419> i visit many communitys and forum all i find out that i have to install alsa driver. but i cant able to install it
[14:34] <Zeldo> Can anyone tell me what is wrong with the NDISWrapper make I posted?
[14:34] <onats> i find the evince document reader too simple...
[14:34] <thiebaude> onats:for me it's the adobe reader
[14:34] <chrisj> onats: what features do you miss?
[14:35] <denialh> xpdf :P
[14:35] <Mechdave> Zeldo, can you pastebin it so I can view it before it disapears in the buffer :)
[14:35] <onats> chrisj, the bookmarks
[14:36] <Zeldo> Mechdave: http://paste.ubuntu.com/54635/
[14:36] <soundray> Zeldo: have you tried to follow the ndiswrapper instructions for Ubuntu instead of compiling?
[14:36] <pilot419> i cant find Alsa mixer there only Realtech oss mixer
[14:36] <soundray> !wifi > Zeldo
[14:36] <Zeldo> soundray: I tried those, they error and tell me to do it manuely
[14:38] <pilot419> how to install Alsa mixer?
[14:38] <Pici> pilot419: it should already be installed.
[14:38] <Pici> pilot419: from a terminal: alsamixer
[14:38] <TheOV> is there a chan for intrepid?
[14:38] <Pici> TheOV: #ubuntu+1
[14:38] <Mechdave> Zeldo, Have a look at this --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/54636/
[14:38] <TheOV> Pici: ah yes thx
[14:38] <onats> how can i restart the mouse? my mouse froze up
[14:39] <Mechdave> Zeldo, looks like your environment variable is incorrect
[14:39] <pilot419> no i didn't find it there is only Realtek OSS mixer
[14:39] <soundray> pilot419: open a terminal and enter 'alsamixer'. What happens?
[14:39] <rjb> hey i could use some help debugging a server edition install
[14:40] <rjb> it hangs at 2% of Select and install software, and makes no progress beyond there
[14:40] <generalBordeaux_> !netinstall
[14:40] <generalBordeaux_> !netboot
[14:40] <soundray> rjb: installing from CD?
[14:40] <rjb> from cd, yes
[14:41] <soundray> rjb: have you checked the CD?
[14:41] <Zeldo> Hmm Mechdave, I change line 46 to set EXTRA_CFLAGS insteaf of CFLAGS, or set CFLAGS to EXTRA_CFLAGS?
[14:41] <rjb> soundray: yes i did
[14:41] <rjb> and it's repeatable, too
[14:41] <soundray> rjb: no errors?
[14:42] <rjb> ie. i'm going thru the exercise a second time, same result
[14:42] <Mechdave> Zeldo, I think it means replace CFLAGS with EXTRA_CFLAGS on line 46
[14:42] <Zeldo> Hmm, No success ;\
[14:42] <AlexMax> Help!  I'm using Ubuntu 8.04 and anytime I try to click on the date/time button in the top right hand corner, gnome-panel freezes and I have to killall gnome-panel....if I have a terminal open at the time
[14:42] <mib_we356z1z> so...installing linux on a jump drive
[14:43] <soundray> mib_we356z1z: the install help page has hints for doing that
[14:43] <soundray> !install > mib_we356z1z
[14:43] <Mechdave> Zeldo, I am not a Makefile guru tho... Best change it back to what it was to start with
[14:43] <Zeldo> Mechdave: alright :|
[14:43] <FlyerFanatic> well i'm going to try to d-load the beta...if this doesnt work, pretty sure my comp just isnt compatible with linux
[14:44] <Mechdave> Zeldo, maybe jump into #ndiswrapper and try there :)
[14:44] <Zeldo> Mechdave:Alright thanks
[14:45] <soundray> rjb: any errors?
[14:45] <thiebaude> flyerfanatic:if it doesn't work, there still might be bugs in 8.10
[14:45] <rjb> soundray: of course not, had the check found any i'd have replaced the cd
[14:45] <Mechdave> Zeldo, this is your original pastebin url if you want to use it again --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/54635/
[14:45] <Zeldo> Ty
[14:46] <soundray> rjb: have you looked on the other text consoles for error messages when the installation stalls?
[14:46] <rjb> yes i did but there's nothing that looks like an error message
[14:47] <rjb> i can use a shell in one of the spare vc's, and it's working
[14:47] <FlyerFanatic> true...but this is becoming beyond ridiculous
[14:47] <open_sauce> partitioning question, I am installing another version of ubuntu onto same disk as my existing version.  I am creating a new partition but I am not sure about primary vs logical? any important distinction I need to know about?
[14:47] <rjb> the system is alive but the installer is hung
[14:47] <FlyerFanatic> i mean i have and then burning at 4x or even a slower speed
[14:48] <soundray> open_sauce: you can have up to three primaries, but many more logical ones. If in doubt, create a logical partition.
[14:48] <FlyerFanatic> if one of he two dont work...i think linux wont work...i d-loaded knoppix and that doesnt work either
[14:48] <open_sauce> soundray, thanks
[14:48] <thiebaude> flyerfanatic:order the free live-cd, i know it takes weeks
[14:48] <X3> is there a way to get scanner and webcam support in HARDY
[14:48] <rjb> soundray: last message from the installer is debconf: Obsolete command TITLE configuring mysql-server...
[14:49] <FlyerFanatic> i guess...but i think its something with my computer and not ubuntu
[14:49] <soundray> X3: depends on your hardware
[14:49] <ikonia> X3 is your scanner and webcam supported ?
[14:49] <scampbell> FlyerFanatic: Your boot partition for both versions must be primary paritions.
[14:49] <sriramoman> X3, which scanner do you have?
[14:49] <FlyerFanatic> i'm not wanting to install...just want to play from the disc
[14:49] <FlyerFanatic> i dont need to partition do i?
[14:49] <scampbell> FlyerFanatic: that is correct
[14:49] <c33z4r> hey. i have a question. is upgrading from ubuntu 8.10 beta to 8.10 full release just as easy as it was to upgrade 8.04 to 8.10beta? or is beta what i'll have to have until the next release comes out. thanks
[14:49] <FlyerFanatic> ok
[14:50] <IamSOG> aaahhh aahhhh I just spend whole hour to make menuconfig, then update, and lost it :o
[14:50] <strongorder> hello! I'm trying to setup a cron job to do automatic backups. While my command works fine manyally, setting it up in cron wont work. What do I do?
[14:50] <soundray> rjb: perhaps you can deselect the database task as a workaround, and install it with apt-get once the rest of the system is in place.
[14:50] <FlyerFanatic> yea i dont know what the deal is...it almost seems to me people feel my stuff might actually be to up to date for linux
[14:50] <X3> canon lide 500f
[14:50] <Mechdave> strongorder, do you have the cron daemon running?
[14:50] <thiebaude> flyerfanatic:all the checksums have to match
[14:50] <onats> !pdf
[14:50] <rjb> yeah that's an idea, i was assuming that was just a warning
[14:50] <X3> and microsoft vx300 webcam
[14:50] <FlyerFanatic> the checksums?
[14:51] <FlyerFanatic> whats that
[14:51] <FlyerFanatic> something with my hardware
[14:51] <strongorder> Mechdave: yes I do. For example I set it to create a new dir and it works. But my custom command does not
[14:52] <Mechdave> strongorder, what is your custom command?
[14:52] <soundray> X3: do you have a USB ID for the webcam? Run lsusb in terminal to see it.
[14:52] <strongorder> Mechdave: rsync --numeric-ids -Wavze ssh --delete amiroff@<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/stuff/ /home/amiroff/backups/stuff/
[14:53] <strongorder> Mechdave: it works when I run it manually at command prompt, it rsyncs data from one server to another
[14:53] <Mechdave> strongorder, Ok gimme a few mins to sort what is happening out
[14:53] <Whitor> Hi, How can I see what drives are attached to my system? as opposed to mounted ...  iow how can I see what devices are available to mount ?
[14:54] <X3> soundray: At the moment Im going to reeinstall Hardy cause ibex wont play nice on triple boot but Ill get you that ID after
[14:55] <soundray> X3: don't reinstall hardy if it's just a matter of setting up intrepid's grub properly
[14:56] <X3> soundray: Ive tried it wont play nice
[14:57] <X3> neither the way I had it set up before with hardy nor with modding the menu.lst
[14:58] <ikonia> X3: I have explained your grub error to you
[14:58] <ikonia> and explained how to resolve it
[14:58] <open_sauce> Whitor: cat /proc/partitions
[14:58] <X3> and it doest work Ikonia
[14:58] <ikonia> X3: I assure you it does
[14:58] <snarkster> good morning all.
[14:58] <sudoconfused> what's good about it?
[14:59] <snarkster> is there a place on the ubuntu website to find out about supported hardware?
[14:59] <ikonia> !hcl | snarkster
[14:59] <jockl> hi i need some help. i want to join a windows network but can't ping other computers
[14:59] <jockl> from the network
[14:59] <ikonia> jockl: what is your ip address and the ip address of a windows box you can't ping
[15:00] <X3> damm elusive this Ikonia all I can get is either just linux or just xp pro and vista never the 3
[15:00] <deunnero> I need help with getting 3d acceleration enabled.   Please =]
[15:00] <ikonia> X3 thats because of how you have done it
[15:00] <ikonia> X3: pastebin your menu.lst
[15:00] <andre> OLa
[15:00] <deunnero> here is my problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5915153#post5915153
[15:00] <Mechdave> strongorder, what does the -Wavze bit do?
[15:00] <andre> Good DAY
[15:01] <ikonia> andre: we saw you the first time
[15:01] <X3> ikonia: its gone already Im half way in reeinstalling hardy
[15:01] <X3> well not started but Ibex is gone
[15:01] <ikonia> deunnero edgy is no longer supported
[15:01] <jockl> ikonia:  inet Adresse:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Maske:<IP_ADDRESS> and the other computer is <IP_ADDRESS> i want to ping through wlan
[15:02] <ikonia> jockl they are on totally seperate addresses
[15:02] <deunnero> So i should get rid of edgy and then try another method? ... cause even sing the restricted drivers still gives me the same problem
[15:02] <X3> Ive unpluged the sata drives so I can reeinstall hardy or ibex
[15:02] <ikonia> jockl: do you have your gateways setup
[15:02] <ikonia> X3 no no no
[15:02] <ikonia> X3: leave the disks in
[15:02] <ikonia> deunnero use hardy herron 8.04 release
[15:02] <jockl> ikonia: no, how can i do that?
[15:03] <ikonia> jockl you need to learn how to setup networking
[15:03] <ancientadm> X3: yes, please leave the disks in >_<
[15:03] <X3> if I dont unplug the sata drives it conflicts with the install on IDE
[15:03] <strongorder> Mechdave: nothing important, just a few switches related to rsync
[15:03] <ikonia> jockl: there are some good docs on the internet
[15:03] <X3> known bug
[15:03] <ikonia> X3 how can it clonflict ?
[15:03] <ikonia> multiple installs is not a problem
[15:03] <Mechdave> strongorder, I cannot find -W in the man page
[15:03] <strongorder> Mechdave: hmm, I will try that wthout those now
[15:03] <X3> you never get a booting grub if theres a mixed sata/ide on istall
[15:03] <deunnero> hld searching for it
[15:04] <deunnero> =]
[15:04] <deunnero> are you telling me to get another ubuntu   cd?
[15:04] <X3> hell its reported bug confirmed by loads of people
[15:04] <jockl> ikonia, do you have any docs or can you tell me how to setup the gateways?
[15:04] <ikonia> X3 can you show me /
[15:04] <ikonia> deunnero yes
[15:05] <ikonia> jockl you need to understand the basics of networking, join ##networking and tehy may point you in the right direction
[15:05] <deunnero> Thats the version i already have
[15:05] <ancientadm> X3: never say never, dear. :)
[15:05] <strongorder> Mechdave: nope, it wont work
[15:05] <strongorder> works manually though
[15:05] <ikonia> deunnero: you said edgy
[15:05] <ikonia> deunnero: edgy is 6.10
[15:05] <deunnero> oh... oops.... Thats th program i used to install  my drivers   Sorry bout that =]
[15:06] <deunnero> it automatically searches and does everything for your video card
[15:06] <Mechdave> strongorder, It's ok I hae found it -W = whole file
[15:06] <deunnero> well i gotta go crap Q_Q
[15:06] <sudoconfused> cya deunnero
[15:06] <ikonia> do you mean envy
[15:06] <deunnero> ya
[15:06] <deunnero> oops
[15:06] <ikonia> deunnero please tone down the language
[15:06] <deunnero> i'll be back later =]
[15:06] <Rictoo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fuse/+bug/274389
[15:06] <Rictoo> how can I fix this?
[15:06] <Rictoo> :\
[15:07] <ikonia> Rictoo is there a fix in the bug report ?
[15:07] <Rictoo> No, but I was hoping you guys had one
[15:07] <Rictoo> heh
[15:07] <ikonia> Rictoo no
[15:07] <soundray> Rictoo: ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:07] <ikonia> Rictoo the bug report is the bug, any fix would be in there
[15:07] <ikonia> tehre is a fix released if you read the bug report
[15:08] <snarkster> update-reboot brb
 tehre is a fix released if you read the bug report
[15:08] <Rictoo> I didn't see one
[15:08] <ikonia> Rictoo: it's bee put into the repos for download
[15:08] <ikonia> "stauts" -> "fixed release"
[15:08] <Rictoo> what, ikonia?
[15:08] <Whitor> open_sauce, Thank you
[15:09] <strongorder> Mechdave: any way I could see cron logs?
[15:09] <ikonia> Rictoo check the stauts, it says fix released, so it means a fix has been released to the rpos
[15:09] <ikonia> strongorder: normally logs to syslog
[15:09] <Mechdave> strongorder,  try without the ssh in the string
[15:09] <Rictoo> no ikonia
[15:09] <Rictoo> it says "Status: New"
[15:10] <Mechdave> strongorder, yep... try /var/log/crond
[15:10] <Mechdave> strongorder, or something similar
[15:10] <ikonia> Rictoo: apologies, I was missing an umber of the end
[15:10] <ikonia> number
[15:10] <macv1> hi all... how do i change the color of the letters in the panel?
[15:10] <ikonia> Rictoo: nothing in that bug report then, looks like the fuse guys are working on it
[15:10] <Mechdave> strongorder, the way I see it is the ssh bit doesn't fit
[15:11] <NiCK_NaME> everytime i open a new window it always opens behind the currently opened window, how would i set the newly opened window's priority to be on top ?
[15:11] <ganes1> after installing windows how do i restore grub?
[15:11] <Rictoo> okay, ikonia
[15:11] <Rictoo> thanks
[15:11] <kristjan_eerik> Is it possible to disable the little LED lights on my laptop (power on, reading hdd, on battery, wifi on, etc)? If yes, then how?
[15:11] <ikonia> !gurb > ganes1
[15:11] <soundray> ganes1: follow the RecoveringUbuntu... instructions
[15:11] <soundray> !grub > ganes1
[15:12] <Ace_NoOne> hi there - I went for lunch, and now my secondary screen won't wake up anymore
[15:12] <Ace_NoOne> anything I can do? I've even tried rebooting
[15:12] <soundray> kristjan_eerik: you can open your laptop and disconnect them. Alternatively, try a dot of black nail varnish.
[15:13] <strongorder> Mechdave: the logs mention only that command has been run
[15:13] <strongorder> now will try without ssh key
[15:13] <macv1> 'soundray: try a dot of black nail varnish.' he he...;-)
[15:14] <kristjan_eerik> soundray, okay, thanks. I think I'll try and get a hold of some nail varnish then. been using a piece of duct-tape but it made everything sticky
[15:14] <rjb> soundray: yep that was it, installation of the LAMP task is broken
[15:14] <NiCK_NaME> Every time i open a new window, it always opens BEHIND the window that is currently opened, how can i make it so the NEW window i just opened, takes priority and show up ON TOP of currently opened windows ?
[15:15] <soundray> kristjan_eerik: if the problem is that they are too bright, a bit of water-resistant felt-tip pen might be enough.
[15:15] <soundray> rjb: only as an install step, or even when you run tasksel on the installed system?
[15:15] <alanbshepard77> I have an HP touchsmart IQ770 and I need help getting it setup with Ubuntu. The touchscreen works but needs to be calibrated as it puts the pointer inches from my finger. Can it be calibrated and how? Also the built in wifi card doesn't show up within ubuntu. How can I get the wifi card to work? The HP site only offers vista drivers.
[15:15] <macv1> hi... could anyone suggest a download manager similar to flashget
[15:15] <strongorder> Mechdave: nope, sync command blows up on me now
[15:15] <X3> looking for a specific bug its pita
[15:15] <macv1> which intergrates wth FF#
[15:15] <kristjan_eerik> soundray, I tried a CD-marker but it came off but I'll try to find a better marker. and yes, they are way too bright to use in a dark setting
[15:15] <rjb> soundray: haven't yet completed installing the system
[15:16] <soundray> rjb: at least you're moving ahead, that's good
[15:16] <rjb> soundray: now i need to figure out why is the installer offering to set up lilo on /dev/md0, and whether that's a good choice
[15:17] <Mechdave> strongorder, ok remove the e
[15:17] <soundray> rjb: whoa, RAID
[15:17] <rjb> yeah right
[15:17] <rjb> + LVM
[15:17] <macv1> hi all... how do i change the color of the letters in the panel?
[15:17] <ikonia> rjb: boot loader on the meta device is a double edged sword
[15:17] <ikonia> rjb: pros and cons
[15:17] <rom1v> hi
[15:17] <soundray> rjb: can't help you there
[15:18] <rom1v> when ubuntu starts, where is the script which starts compiz?
[15:18] <rjb> ikonia: so why would this be the default choice
[15:18] <ikonia> rom1v /etc/X11/Xseesions.d
[15:18] <Mechdave> strongorder, try -->  rsync --numeric-ids -Wav --compress --delete amiroff@<IP_ADDRESS>:/home/stuff/ /home/amiroff/backups/stuff/
[15:18] <ikonia> rjb the person who set upt he default rates it as a bigger pro than con
[15:18] <rom1v> ok thanks
[15:19] <rjb> ikonia: kinda obvious, but what would be the major con?
[15:19] <rom1v> hmm...  grep -l compiz * doesn't give any result
[15:19] <rom1v> in /etc/X11/Xsession.d
[15:19] <ikonia> rjb maintenance of initrd
[15:19] <X3> ikonia: I'd love to show you the bug report made by others where I posted regarding the ide/sata issue but unfortunatly finding it is a pita if only there was a find post by user
[15:19] <ikonia> rjb: just asn an easy one
[15:20] <thebishop> it's a shame Hardy is LTS... Intrepid in beta form wipes the floor with it
[15:20] <ikonia> rjb: maintaining a boot loader if the disks are out of sync for another
[15:20] <rom1v> ikonia: compiz doesn't seem to be launched from /etc/X11/Xsession.d
[15:20] <ikonia> thebishop: please stick to support discussion
[15:20] <thebishop> :)
[15:20] <thebishop> sorry
[15:20] <ikonia> rom1v: it's a script within it
[15:20] <jockl> how can i change my wlan ip address? i want to join a windows ad hoc network
[15:20] <jockl> which has 192.168.100.x
[15:20] <rom1v> but none of those scripts contains "compiz"
[15:20] <rjb> ikonia: hmm so why not just on the MBR (and why not grub)
[15:21] <ikonia> jockl from what I'm seeing from your earlier post your on a router thats on a different network to the windows network
[15:21] <ikonia> jockl: I suggested you join ##networking to get the basics of networkng
[15:21] <jockl> they didn't help
[15:21] <ikonia> rjb thats a good question and thats how I use it
[15:21] <ikonia> rjb: one of the main reasons is lilo is write all info static to the mbr
[15:21] <leafw> what is so wrong about the nvidia packages in hardy? 3 desktop computers, 3 failures.
[15:21] <rjb> ikonia: meaning lilo on MBR?
[15:21] <ikonia> rjb: that can be good on raid if you have a disk issue
[15:22] <leafw> I can only run in vesa
[15:22] <ikonia> rjb: no, I use grub
[15:22] <soundray> leafw: do you want the short answer?
[15:22] <leafw> soundray: what I would like to know is whether there is any known solution.
[15:22] <X3> https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/grub-installer/+bug/32357
[15:22] <ikonia> rjb: both sides of the coin will work, and have pros/cons, I use grub and write it to both disks in a mirror, but thats my personal choice
[15:23] <rjb> ikonia: well for some reason the installer seems not to have an option to install grub
[15:23] <X3> ikonia: https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/grub-installer/+bug/32357/comments/27
[15:23] <ikonia> rjb: lilo on the mbr of the meta device works well, if you know how to maintain it
[15:23] <X3> thast more specific
[15:23] <jnj> Anyone know how i can mount my iPod to Linux ?
[15:23] <ikonia> rjb: they don't want to maintain initrd and the raid modules
[15:23] <soundray> leafw: what's wrong is that NVidia Corp aren't opening the driver. The solution would be for NVidia to fully embrace and support free software development.
[15:23] <ikonia> X3: just reading
[15:23] <Pici> !ipod | jnj
[15:23] <rom1v> ikonia: did you find the particular script which launch compiz?
[15:23] <leafw> soundray: nvidia was recommended to me for linux as "know to work best of all"
[15:24] <ikonia> rom1v I've not even looked
[15:24] <leafw> soundray: had ATI for long time, suffered that one too
[15:24] <jnj> Pici: will that teach me how to mount it ?
[15:24] <soundray> leafw: not by me
[15:24] <zippytech> where is the trash or deleted items go i cannot delete from local account
[15:24] <rom1v> if someone could help me finding where compiz is launched
[15:24] <rom1v> it would help me :)
[15:24] <ikonia> !trash | zippytech
[15:24] <rom1v> thank you by advance
[15:24] <zippytech> thanks
[15:24] <Pici> jnj: Take a look.
[15:25] <bheero> hi, when use flash in website and i want to look at a movie with totem(at the same time), my movie is playing in slow motion...why ? i heard that flash used 99% of my CPU.. how can i do ?
[15:25] <leafw> soundray: do you know hy the binary nvidia driver doesn't appear in te restricted drivers manager?
[15:25] <Mechdave> strongorder, have a look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/54651/ it should do the same but a bit more readable
[15:25] <ikonia> bheero flash is a closed source product and can't be supported by ubuntu, if it's eating your cpu you may need to talk to adobe
[15:25] <bheero> ikonia, but i dont know if that's true
[15:26] <ikonia> bheero check out, use top to monitor your cpu useag
[15:26] <Mechdave> strongorder, you can leave out the -v when running it from cron
[15:26] <ikonia> eusage
[15:26] <FlyerFanatic> i got it to work!!!!
[15:26] <FlyerFanatic> woooo
[15:26] <soundray> leafw: I think jockey-gtk uses a static list of supported cards. Your card probably is not on it. It need not mean that it's not supported at all, as the list is somewhat conservative.
[15:26] <bheero> ikonia, ? don't understund sorry
[15:27] <bheero> ikonia, you mean.. i need to seed the used % of my CPU ? but what kind of programm can do that?
[15:27] <rjb> ikonia: well i tried going with the default, & it doesn't work :(
[15:27] <ikonia> bheero: use the application "top" to monitor cpu usage, then launch a flash website to see wht your cpu uses
[15:27] <ikonia> rjb: is this raid1 ?
[15:27] <soundray> leafw: you may want to have a go with envyng, but I can't provide any detail down that route
[15:27] <rjb> ikonia: yes
[15:27] <soundray> !info envyng-gtk | leafw
[15:27] <leafw> soundray: ok, thanks
[15:27] <ikonia> rjb whats the problem /
[15:28] <rjb> hangs on boot, at the initrd step
[15:28] <ikonia> rjb do you get the lilo menu ?
[15:28] <FlyerFanatic> whats the install option called...not the normal install but if you go into the menu and select install something forget the word
[15:28] <bheero> ikonia, 40% is used... so what's the problem...
[15:28] <rjb> ikonia: yes, and the kernel inits, but hangs on Freeing initrd memory
[15:29] <mitchellhancock> Savage full screen issue screen shot. http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotnr7.png
[15:29] <ikonia> bheero open totem at the same time and see how much is used
[15:29] <mitchellhancock> Ubuntu 8.04 on Intel Core 2 Dual 32 bit
[15:29] <ikonia> rjb: Hmmmm, your on raid1 - so thats not a problem, your past the tricky part, so thats fine, your just hanging at the initrd memroy clear
[15:29] <ikonia> rjb: can you see your lilo.conf  ?
[15:29] <X3> mmm laptop disconnected
[15:29] <ikonia> can you get to I should say
[15:30] <rjb> meh the server install is proving tricky, or should i say flaky
[15:30] <open_sauce> flyerfanatic: synaptic ?
[15:30] <mitchellhancock> See Savage error now?
[15:30] <bheero> ikonia, it don't go higher than 15% for each CPU(i've got a dual core)..
[15:30] <rjb> ikonia: i can't do anything unless i boot from cd
[15:30] <FlyerFanatic> umm nah
[15:30] <ikonia> bheero: so where di you get %40 from ?
[15:30] <ikonia> rjb: yes, is that possible ?
[15:30] <X3> poor Ikonia
[15:31] <FlyerFanatic> i'd know the word if i saw it
[15:31] <bheero> ikonia, i just read fake
[15:31] <ikonia> bheero you read fake /
[15:31] <bheero> ikonia, i need googles
[15:31] <ikonia> X3 pardon ?
[15:31] <bheero> ikonia, french ?
[15:31] <rjb> ikonia: yep, rebooting
[15:31]  * X3 feels for Ikonia being pulled and pushed all #ubuntu
[15:31] <mitchellhancock> http://www.timeinvaders.com/mutant_fruits.html - http://www.timeinvaders.com/downloads/mutantfruits.tar.gz won't boot
[15:32] <rjb> heh what a noisy computer
[15:32] <soundray> FlyerFanatic: find one of the many install videos on youtube -- one of them should remind you
[15:32] <ikonia> bheero so with totem and a flash movie running - how much cpu is in use
[15:32] <X3> just saying your popular
[15:32] <ikonia> X3 thank you
[15:32] <bheero> ikonia, 20% for each CPU
[15:32] <ikonia> bheero you just said it was 515
[15:32] <ikonia> %15
[15:32] <icnpunk> is that safe to remove old kernel from ubuntu?
[15:33] <rjb> like a jetplane taking off, or so
[15:33] <ikonia> icnpunk: if you don't want it - sure
[15:33] <bheero> ikonia, IT CHANGE
[15:33] <mitchellhancock> Can you try that game on your end? http://www.timeinvaders.com/downloads/mutantfruits.tar.gz
[15:33] <ikonia> bheero so monitor it for a while
[15:33] <mitchellhancock> I don't know what I'm missing
[15:33] <X3> ikonia: did you read that report? still same issue on IBEX infact
[15:33] <ikonia> mitchellhancock who are you speaking to
[15:33] <mitchellhancock> anyone willing to help
[15:34] <bheero> ikonia, ok thanks for you help..
[15:34] <ikonia> X3 yes I did, I only actually understood %90 of it, I don't see why it not being seen as a primary disk is an issue
[15:34] <icnpunk> ikonia,which way is complete remove ? by sysnaptic package manager?
[15:34] <rjb> ok trying rescue mode from cd
[15:34] <leafw> soundray: turns out my card GLX280 is only supported by latest nvidia 177 driver ... needs manual install.
[15:34] <mitchellhancock> Who in charge here?
[15:34] <nnull> is there anyway i can backup all my gconf-editor settings so if i change something and it breaks i can just unbreak it?
[15:34] <X3> Ikonia if you have both IDE and sata drives plugged in during install it will bork everything up
[15:35] <lore20> hello
[15:35] <ikonia> X3 thats the part I don't udnerstand, I guess you have to have one/ see it to understand it
[15:35] <lore20> i'm trying to get my realtek wireless adapter (ASUS EEE Box) on ubuntu
[15:35] <soundray> leafw: I see
[15:35] <soundray> !eeepc | lore20
[15:35] <lore20> I followed some how-to... but I got an error during official realtek driver compilation
[15:35] <lore20> soundray, i'm talking about eee box, not eee pc
[15:35] <X3> well I seen it I dont understand it and after many fgailed installs I unplugged the sata drives and voila
[15:36] <X3> same in reverse
[15:36] <p3pp3_91> hi
[15:36] <p3pp3_91> ,-)
[15:36] <soundray> lore20: some Eee PCs use that wireless card, too
[15:36] <maxagaz> what will be new in xubuntu 8.10 ?
[15:36] <PucKid> can anyone give some support about playdeb ?
[15:36] <maxagaz> and in kubuntu 8.10 ?
[15:36] <ikonia> maxagaz read the change logs, and visit #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[15:37] <lore20> soundray, thanks soundray
[15:37] <X3> Karlprof: Hi still waiting on those website competition results
[15:38] <bheero> ikonia, i've just download VLC, and konw it work... so it's probably a problem between totem and flash...
[15:38] <soundray> lore20: but those pages don't have instructions for it, so you're right, sorry
[15:38] <rjb> ikonia: rescue mode seems to work ok on this install
[15:38] <lore20> soundray, I've already tried madwifi, without success, and i prefer to don't use ndiswrapper
[15:39] <rjb> that is, i get to choose the appropriate /dev/mapper device as root fs
[15:39] <lore20> realtek released official linux driver, but i got an error compiling
[15:39] <soundray> lore20: what are the instructions you've followed for compiling the realtek driver?
[15:40] <rjb> ikonia: and i get a working rescue mode shell, the filesystems are mounted properly
[15:40] <lore20> soundray, http://www.vecchiomago.net/index.php?mod=read&id=1222891688, it's in italian
[15:40] <nishant> msg abbe hi
[15:40] <Karlprof> Grah, connection. Also, X3, are you talking about the thing RichiH was doing a while back?
[15:40] <[fFf]> what do you think of using clonezilla to copy an Ubuntu 8.04.1 for office use? The distro is customized with LDAP for authentication and other things, but it will be installed on the same PC model