[09:32]  * darkmatter pokes vish
[09:34] <darkmatter> vish: g-i-t is look much better as of today. but still needs work
[09:44] <darkmatter> they should get rid of the super saturated blue in system-search, edit-find, and edit-find-replace in g-i-t. move the loop to a silvery color to look better with the rest of the icons
[11:39] <darkmatter> http://www.swiftboot.com/?p=213
[12:54] <zniavre> ho we can't change the metacity layout of homosapiens theme ?
[13:36] <zniavre> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/187396/homosapiens.png
[22:11] <zacbarton> zniavre: you can change the button laytout via http://www.zacbarton.com/homosapien/customizer/


[22:51] <bazhang> zerty, you have a custom kernel and wish to compile; please read the documentation
[22:51] <maco> zerty: official kernels are installed as precompiled binaries
[22:51] <zerty> it is part of ubuntu support
[22:52] <kholzer> My monitor goes to sleep and doesn't wake up.  What can I do to fix this?  Fresh 10.04 install; I can SSH into the box.  Anybody???
[22:52] <bazhang> zerty, no it's not
[22:52] <maco> zerty: custom kernels are not supported here
[22:52] <zerty> it is
[22:52] <zerty> because me want the official
[22:52] <zerty> one
[22:52] <bazhang> zerty, please stop asking
[22:52] <maco> zerty: then all you do is install linux-image-generic
[22:52] <zerty> my system got a customize on e
[22:52] <maco> zerty: its installed by default
[22:52] <bazhang> zerty, right. and this is not supported. as you have been told numerous times
[22:53]  * kholzer really wants to tell zerty to RTFM...
[22:53] <zerty> who are you bazhang ?
[22:53] <DasEi> zerty: from your questions I suggest you first try to get some experience by doing a local compile on non-productinal environment, so lern to check if your special-kernel lacks any support for it, else you install kernels by apt
[22:53] <maco> kholzer: rtfm is not allowed here, thanks
[22:53] <bazhang> kholzer, please, that is not needed nor appropriate
[22:53]  * kholzer didn't do it...just expressed desire to ;[
[22:54] <DasEi> zerty: to come to this, virtual machines are nice, as you can break and restore them as you like
[22:54] <zerty> virtual machine ?
[22:54] <DasEi> zerty: I wouldn't tell you how to do that remote in a grade like this
[22:54] <hiexpo> !vm | zerty
[22:55] <zerty> vmware is it free ?
[22:55] <kholzer> zerty: no.
[22:55] <irule> only the player
[22:55] <kholzer> zerty: as in beer, the player is.
[22:55] <DasEi> zerty: you can set up a simulated pc on your box, and in there do all efforts to compromise it
[22:56] <epp> XEN
[22:56] <stercor> DasEi: ShieldsUp accesses the port from the Internet. Port 3270 is listed as
[22:56] <stercor> stealth
[22:56] <aguitel_> how hide splash in boot and shutdown process ?
[22:56] <hiexpo> IdleOne,  - word up
[22:57] <stercor> DasEi: I just need it for localhost.
[22:57] <zerty> i can't find vmware on source
[22:57] <DasEi> zerty: virtualbox is common and intuitive
[22:57] <epp> zerty: you might want to try SUSE, they have XEN preinstalled on there newest dist. go ask them.
[22:57] <dugger5688> zerty: it would be better to use virtualbox
[22:57] <^TERMINOLOGY^> I have a quick ? what can i do if a certin .mp4 doesnt play in totem
[22:57] <ShapeShifter499> I forget whats the command to bring up system messages
[22:57] <ShapeShifter499> ?
[22:57] <DasEi> aguitel_: /etc/default/grub
[22:58] <DasEi> aguitel_: "spalsh"  to "", save file (as root), then sudo update-grub
[22:58] <DasEi> ShapeShifter499: dmesg
[22:58] <DasEi> ShapeShifter499: dmesg  | tail   for the last lines
[22:58] <zerty> you mean this one xen-hypervisor-3.3
[22:58] <aguitel_> DasEi, need to edit ?
[22:58] <DasEi> aguitel_: yes
[22:58] <ShapeShifter499> thanks
[22:58] <zerty> virtualbox i have allready test it before don't work welll
[22:59] <aguitel_> DasEi, what i need to change please?
[23:00] <epp> zerty: yes, but i hear its VERY hard to config. but SUSE has it preinstalled
[23:00] <zerty> plz i don't want to change os
[23:00] <zerty> i prefer ubuntu for ever
[23:01] <DasEi> aguitel_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/default/grub
[23:01] <^TERMINOLOGY^> zerty: ubuntu is awesome
[23:01] <zerty> i got bad experience with centos
[23:01] <epp> zerty: thats because its not as user friendly.
[23:01] <Jordan_U> I have two ssh windows connection to the same screen session, but for some reason only one the text I type in the second window).
[23:02] <DasEi> zerty: I'm using vbox since four ubu distros- pain is seldom here withit
[23:02] <aguitel_> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/F88r9VKz
[23:02] <zus> does anyone know how to change the keys for the memenu i want my super M to be the magnafier again, and super s to select windows for grouping,........
[23:02]  * zus oughta chane his name to "frustrated again" hahahaha
[23:02] <cmcanulty> I've looked everywhere, where is the channel topic?
[23:03] <K1ng> !boot
[23:03] <K1ng> !grub2
[23:03] <DasEi> aguitel_: for splash : GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"   to  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=""
[23:03] <hiexpo> no os is bad all os have a specific destiny every os  has a reason but they are all linux / if you are haveing problems the best thing to do is learn linux first
[23:03] <aguitel_> DasEi, ok i try
[23:03] <DasEi> aguitel_: also want visible timeout (for pressing shift) ?
[23:04] <j_squidy> how well does ScummVM work on linux?
[23:04] <hiexpo> scumm vm never heard of it
[23:05] <Spondodge> im gonna try it now
[23:05] <aguitel_> DasEi, yes
[23:05] <aeon-ltd> about vms though, unless you already use qt apps i would not use virtualbox 'cause of the extra bloat
[23:06] <DasEi> aguitel_:GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT_QUIET=false
[23:06] <j_squidy> Spondodge, got anything to run on it?
[23:06] <trism> j_squidy: it works fine, at least for Day of the Tentacle, which is the only game I play in it anyway
[23:06] <rafaello> hello
[23:06] <DasEi> aguitel_:GRUB_TIMEOUT=5       ,5sec delay at boot shall be enough
[23:07] <Spondodge> trism: do you just dump the pc files for day of tenticle in a folder then point scumm at it?
[23:07] <j_squidy> trism, ty
[23:07] <trism> Spondodge: yes
[23:07] <Spondodge> j_squidy: not yet
[23:07] <Spondodge> trism: cool
[23:07] <cablop> my ubuntu doesn't enable my sound, but it used to detect it
[23:07] <rafaello> I need help with cleaning out the unistall files for wine
[23:07] <DasEi> aguitel_:after changing save the file and do a : sudo update-grub
[23:08] <Tann> How would I go about installing intel graphics acceleration on ubuntu-server?
[23:08] <aeon-ltd> cablop: please explain more
[23:09] <T3CHKOMMIE> Tann, ubuntu server has no GUI, why install graphics accellorator?
[23:09] <j_squidy> spondodge: should download by morning 5hrs
[23:09] <Praticle> Hello there, I'm having a spot of bother in regards to my computer freezing every time I login. Is there anyone here who might be able to help me out?
[23:10] <Excurion> !ask | Praticle
[23:10] <aeon-ltd> cablop: what happened prior
[23:10] <Spondodge> j_squidy: cool, well i just found a site called abandonware gonna see what lucas arts games they have.. old ones
[23:10] <Tann> T3CHKOMMIE, because I needed a basic system to build off of. I am using it to launch a single application and nothing more.
[23:10] <Tann> however I need the intel drivers for it to run smoothly
[23:10] <DasEi> Praticle: we can try..
[23:10] <Praticle> What do you need to know?
[23:10] <j_squidy> Spondodge, will look
[23:11] <DasEi> Praticle: open a terminal..
[23:11] <Praticle> K
[23:11] <Praticle> btw I'm on the computer in safe-graphics mode (thats the onle way it doesn't freeze)
[23:11] <DasEi> Praticle: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:11] <T3CHKOMMIE> Tann, i have wasted many hours trying to get a GUI to work on ubuntu server. i havnt had any luck yet. just have to get used to the CLI
[23:11] <DasEi> Praticle:which distro are you running ?
[23:12] <Praticle> 10.04
[23:12] <Praticle> K I ran the command
[23:12] <Praticle> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:12] <DasEi> Praticle: no eeros ?
[23:12] <Praticle> nope
[23:12] <aeon-ltd> T3CHKOMMIE: checklist, do you have X, have you got correct drivers, generated a xinitrc?, got a wm?
[23:12] <Tann> T3CHKOMMIE, if what I would like to do was possible from the terminal, I would have gone that route in the first place
[23:12] <DasEi> Praticle: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[23:12] <cablop> aeon-ltd: i had an ubuntu inside a vbox and it worked as it came, slow, but worked, then i installed the vbox additions, it continued to work normally, then i updated the packages,. that updated the kernel and related stuff, then i reinstalled the kernel, and i got no compiz and no sound, i can live with no copiz, but no sound is weird, cause it had sound! i did a nother thing i removed gdm...
[23:12] <cablop> ...and installed again
[23:12] <DasEi> Praticle: pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[23:12] <dugger5688> Tann: You should be able to install ubuntu-desktop
[23:12] <rafaello> I installed microsoft office on wine which upgraded my earlier version of office, when I went to the unistall wine programs, a bunch of office programs go put in and I cant uninstall is there a way to delete programs in wine so that you can reinstall them fresh?
[23:13] <DasEi> Praticle: dmesg | pastebinit
[23:13] <aeon-ltd> cablop: can you use terminal?, if so go to a term and type alsamixer
[23:13] <Tann> dugger5688, if I wanted everything that came with ubuntu-desktop, I wouldn't have used the server edition
[23:13] <Oer> cablob did you update guest aditions ?
[23:13] <cablop> aeon-ltd: let me try :)
[23:14] <Praticle> http://pastebin.com/SYxk8sZq
[23:14] <dugger5688> Tann: So you JUST want the intel drivers?
[23:14] <Tann> yup
[23:14] <jagadish> hello does Setting my primary display to PCI completly disable the onboard card
[23:14] <Excurion> I need to calibrate my touchscreen which uses evdev. Does anyone know of a tool, or a way to calibrate my touchscreen? I have a dual monitor set up, so it is needed to make up for the shift
[23:14] <aeon-ltd> Oer: you using irssi?, helpful tip tab completion kills spellcheckers
[23:14] <T3CHKOMMIE> Tann, I had a JAR GUI runnig with x11 through ssh, but everytime i logged out, the program closed. thats as far as i got.
[23:14] <jagadish> Excurion, does Setting my primary display to PCI completly disable the onboard card
[23:15] <Tann> T3CHKOMMIE, I have everything going great except I need hardware acceleration.
[23:15] <Excurion> jagadish: I have my own problem to worry about right now
[23:15] <cablop> aeon it cannot find alsamizer
[23:16] <cablop> aeon-ltd: it cannot find alsamizer
[23:16] <T3CHKOMMIE> Tann, did you say it was an intell gpu?
[23:16] <Tann> yup
[23:16] <jagadish> Excurion, hehehe.. carry on..
[23:16] <T3CHKOMMIE> integrated or dedicated? whats the model number?
[23:16] <aeon-ltd> cablop: alsamixer
[23:16] <jagadish> Jordan_U, ...
[23:16] <DasEi> Praticle: dmesg ?
[23:17] <cablop> aeon-ltd: it says cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[23:17] <aeon-ltd> cablop: you need to reinstall alsa then
[23:17] <jagadish> Jordan_U, you there
[23:17] <DasEi> Praticle: syslog looks convienent, part from a segfault in evolution, maybe fw blocking it ?
[23:17] <cablop> aeon-ltd: sudo aptitude install alsa?
[23:18] <aeon-ltd> cablop: it should find it yeah
[23:18] <DasEi> Praticle: another check, enough spaceon hd ? df -h tells you
[23:18] <Guest78835> OAFIID:GNOME_Cardapio <--- any suggestions?
[23:18] <Jordan_U> jagadish: Yes, but I don't know the answer to your question.
[23:18] <T3CHKOMMIE> Tann, out of curiosity, what are you running on a server that needs graphic accelloration?
[23:18] <Praticle> DasEi: I have like 400 gig free
[23:19] <Jordan_U> T3CHKOMMIE: You don't use compiz on all your servers?
[23:19] <Tann> T3CHKOMMIE, XBMC
[23:19] <draco__> Why would you need compiz on a server?
[23:19] <misto89> salve
[23:19] <Jordan_U> draco__: I was joking.
[23:19] <Guest12771> dai
[23:19] <askhader> draco__: x-fowarding?
[23:19] <jagadish> Jordan_U, can i use anything else to see some fire on my moniter... !!! hehehe
[23:20] <draco__> Jordan_U, ah ok
[23:20] <Gryllida> Hello. A windows user has shared a directory with 'everyone: full control' permissions. I'm on Linux and can read and edit existing files fine, but when I create new files, they have read/write access only for this linux user. Is there a way I can configure the files I make to have read/write access inherited from the directory I'm making them in?
[23:20] <thune3> Tann: i'm not sure i understand, if you have installed xorg, it should have pulled in the video drivers.
[23:20] <aeon-ltd> draco__: crappy 3d cubes that "increase" productivity
[23:20] <Guest12771> vixiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[23:20] <T3CHKOMMIE> Tann, ahhhhhh, hm i have only run that on a Xbox, what kinda card do yo uhave? usually the intell gpus suck with linux, but i have seen some drivers for them.
[23:20] <Gryllida> Guest12771: yes?
[23:20] <draco__> askhader: x-forwarding? that sounds nifty.
[23:20] <Tann> T3CHKOMMIE, well I think I've got something. the xorg package itself never actually installed?
[23:21] <DasEi> Praticle: which graphics ?
[23:21] <Tann> nope, didn't work
[23:21] <draco__> aeon-ltd: hey, it's kind of like an expo that shows more in way :)
[23:21] <T3CHKOMMIE> Tann, are you using this server as a back end or front end for xbmc?
[23:21] <dugger5688> Tann: You're trying to install xbmc... on a server. It'd be much better to install desktop and remove what you don't want. Or install the xbmc project's own LiveCD and then do an install?
[23:21] <Praticle> DasEi: Ati HD 5470? I had everything up and running for about a month and then one day it started freezing up. It was after an update I think
[23:21] <Tann> frontend, T3CHKOMMIE
[23:21] <cablop> aeon-ltd: ok, i'll give it a shot and be back either success or fail, hehe
[23:22] <cablop> aeon-ltd: thanks
[23:22] <aeon-ltd> cablop: did it install fine?
[23:22] <T3CHKOMMIE> Tann, im going to have to agree with dugger5688, i think it would work better using the desktop ubuntu, whats your hardware like?
[23:22] <DasEi> Praticle: I'm not too good on ati-knowledge, hints when this occurs again sould come from dmesg | tail
[23:23] <Jordan_U> jagadish: Try editing /etc/default/grub with "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub" and change GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="quiet splash" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="quiet splash nomodeset". Then save and exit gedit, and run "sudo update-grub".
[23:23] <DasEi> Praticle: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:23] <T3CHKOMMIE> Tann, that is if you want to keep it as a front end. i have my server running backend smb and stuff all streaming to my xbox running xbmc.
[23:23] <Tann> T3CHKOMMIE, eh, I'll get it working. I find it easier to work on installing stuff than going through and removing stuff
[23:23] <bblz> Is there a way to bring Empathy (the contact list) to the front via the Indicator Applet?
[23:23] <dugger5688> T3CHKOMMIE: You can actually start xbmc as the default session, and forgo all the gnome overhead very easily. So again... I agree.
[23:24] <Jordan_U> jagadish: Hopefully then you'll be able to switch to the nvidia card without X crashing, then install the nvidia drivers with System > Administration > Hardware Drivers to get full features and accelleration.
[23:24] <jagadish> Jordan_U, Thanks A Ton i'll try
[23:24] <Jordan_U> jagadish: You're welcome.
[23:24] <Praticle> DasEi: Sorry I ran the dmesg | tail. And I have no idea what it's trying to tell me
[23:25] <jagadish> Jordan_U, i'm give u the results soon
[23:25] <DasEi> Praticle: these are the last system events occured on your box, you should check it right after a freeze
[23:25] <DasEi> Praticle: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:25] <cablop> no alsa package in lucid, do pulse replaced alsa in the end?
[23:25] <DasEi> Praticle: another place to look is /var/log/messages
[23:26] <T3CHKOMMIE> dugger5688, do you have any experince with the XBMC liveCD?
[23:26] <Jordan_U> cablop: No, pulseaudio uses alsa, it is not intended to (and never will) replace alsa.
[23:27] <Praticle> DasEi: Ok, I'll brb.  What problem are you actually trying to solve?
[23:28] <dugger5688> T3CHKOMMIE: None whatsoever, but I think it's ubuntu based. I know alot of people have used it to install on very cheap atom boxes
[23:29] <Praticle> DasEi: Sorry, what was the command again
[23:29] <DasEi> Praticle: dmesg | tail
[23:29] <purvesh> gentbert, hi you there ?
[23:29]  * DasEi thinks fastest reboot ever
[23:29] <cablop> Jordan_U: first, i lost audio after updating the kernel, second i'm running this ubuntu in a vm and i want to strip it to a simplier ubuntu with a simplier gui
[23:29] <T3CHKOMMIE> dugger5688, ya, i have some old pc's i wanted to re-purpose as XBMC front ends, i have two old xboxes and i love having all my media in a central location, but i never had the live disk take off, i actually think its knoppix based, or atleast i remember alot of the tools i used for XBMC were knoppix based... you know, for dual-booting that old peice of hardware.
[23:30] <Praticle> DasEi: It seems to say the same thing as before... The problem is after it freezes I can't open terminal. I have to ctrl+alt+backspace
[23:30] <Jordan_U> cablop: Why do you think that removing pulseaudio will fix your problem? Have you tried booting into the previous kernel?
[23:30] <DasEi> Praticle: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:30] <DasEi> Praticle: another place to look is /var/log/messages
[23:31] <Praticle> http://pastebin.com/rvSm30mu
[23:31] <Praticle> http://pastebin.com/8UydU6SX
[23:31] <Praticle> respectivly
[23:31] <cablop> Jordan_U: i don't have the old kernel anymore, but not, i don't want to remove the pulse to solve the sopund issue, just cause i think i don't need it,
[23:31] <cablop> i'll remove bluetooth and alike too, cause i don't need them in a vm
[23:32] <Cube``> hey, i'm looking for an preferably up-to-date (like 10.04) VERY LIGHT ubuntu version, a minimalistic one, without any applications (besides stuff like network manager, and ofc x and gnome). could you point me to something?
[23:33] <Jordan_U> cablop: I recommend keeping pulseaudio, it's usefull for more than just the bells and whistles.
[23:33] <Jordan_U> !minimal | Cube``
[23:34] <Cube``> jord	thanks a lot
[23:34] <Cube``> Jordan_U: but what this pretty much is is the latest 10.04, but in a minimal version wright? this minimal cd gets released every time ubuntu gets released right?
[23:35] <iceroot> RÄ4
[23:35] <Dr_Willis> Cube``:  if you install X and gnome.. well you have ubuntu then.. so i im not sure what you are gaining.
[23:35] <Jordan_U> Cube``: Yes, all Ubuntu versions use the same repositories.
[23:35] <mdgeorge1> hello
[23:36] <Dr_Willis> Cube``:   use niormal ubuntu. remove what you dont need.
[23:36] <Cube``> kk
[23:36] <mdgeorge1> Can anyone help me properly configure my wacom tablet?
[23:36] <mdgeorge1> it works properly if I reboot after plugging it in, but it doesn't seem to support hotplug
[23:37] <DasEi> Praticle: still I see no major error by overflying the logs, it occurs when gdm strs the desktop ?
[23:37] <purvesh> how to install mysql on ubuntu 10.04?
[23:38] <cablop> Jordan_U: well, then i'll just reinstall the alsa
[23:38] <Praticle> DasEi: It allows me to login. And I can even open terminal. But as soon as I click on anything (or wait 10 seconds) it freezes
[23:38] <mister-walter> I just changed the uid for one of my user accounts from 500 to 501 and now it doesn't appear in the login window.
[23:38] <mister-walter> Lol I have no idea what I just did
[23:39] <Praticle> DasEi: The only thing it allows me to open is terminal and thats only because I have a shortcut on my desktop and after it opens its frozen
[23:39] <mister-walter> How can I login to the account while keeping the changed uid?
[23:39]  * vsk is sleeping now... yeap yeap yeap...
[23:39] <Jordan_U> mister-walter: All user accounts in Ubuntu should have uid >= 1000.
[23:40] <Jordan_U> mister-walter: I'm not sure how you ended up with a uid of 500 in the first place.
[23:40] <mister-walter> ooooh
[23:40] <DasEi> Praticle: I have no certain idea , might try to reconfigure gdm
[23:40] <mister-walter> I was trying to modify some Mac partitions
[23:40] <mister-walter> which had a UID of 501
[23:40] <Praticle> DasEi: Alright, how would I go about that?
[23:40] <Hogrin> How can I go about blocking certain hostnames on my bin server?  I believe the term is blackholing.
[23:41] <DasEi> Praticle: log out to commandline, stop gdm , reconfigure, start gdm
[23:41] <Praticle> DasEi: Alrighty, I'll give it a shot
[23:41] <DasEi> Praticle: write the commands down :
[23:41] <Jordan_U> mister-walter: Adding your user to a group with gid of 501 will probably get you what you want.
[23:42] <CrayonOfDoom> Any way to turn an .iso into an .img usable by PXElinux?  I'm trying to avoid the netboot that downloads files and instead have an entire install img be the boot.
[23:42] <mister-walter> Lol how do I do that
[23:42] <DasEi> Praticle: sudo service gdm stop
[23:42] <Jordan_U> mister-walter: Though you'll need to disable journaling if you're trying to write to hfsplus partitions.
[23:42] <mister-walter> I don't care about writing
[23:42] <DasEi> Praticle: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[23:42] <purvesh> Can some one help me on installation of software on ubuntu
[23:42] <DasEi> Praticle: sudo service gdm start
[23:43] <Hilikus> how can i export a certificate used by my school's wifi?
[23:43] <Guest63379> i can help you purvish
[23:43] <DasEi> Praticle: alt+strg+F2 brings you to cmd-line (and logs you off)
[23:43] <Jordan_U> CrayonOfDoom: If you setup a local apt mirror then the netboot CD at least won't need to go out to the internet.
[23:43] <Praticle> DasEi: strg? sorry, what's that?
[23:43] <purvesh> Guest63379, ya tell me
[23:43] <DasEi> Praticle: ctrl
[23:43] <Praticle> DasEi: ah! ok. Brb, I'll give that a shot
[23:43] <purvesh> Guest63379, i want to install mysql how to install via terminal
[23:44] <CrayonOfDoom> Jordan_U: so then it'd still "retrieve" the install files, but from the local apt mirror which can have the strict version requirements I need?
[23:44] <Hogrin> Can anybody tell me how to block a single hostname with bind?
[23:44] <Guest63379> oh Sry i thought u meant install ubuntu
[23:44] <Jordan_U> CrayonOfDoom: Yes.
[23:44] <Hogrin> Just have it resolve to local host, or somesuch?
[23:44] <Guest63379> i dont know how purvish
[23:44] <CrayonOfDoom> Glorious, I'll do some research on setting one up, thanks.
[23:45] <purvesh> Guest63379, its ok. and its purvesh. u can reply a Person Directly via personname,
[23:45] <Stameni> can anyone help me with this ? /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lXext ?
[23:46] <Guest63379> Purvesh,I don't know how to do that on XChat
[23:46] <Stameni> i get that message when i try to "make" python-qt4
[23:47] <trism> Stameni: try installing libxext-dev
[23:47] <Stameni> trism, tnx, i will try
[23:47] <Praticle> DasEi: Still the same problem. Another thing I forgot to mention is that when I login I get the error "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_FastUserSwitchApplet"" I'm not sure if this is relevant but I figured Id mention it
[23:48] <jagadish> Jordan_U, no use the same error... :( i think i'll use my onboard one for now
[23:48] <DasEi> Praticle: you can delete it if you don't need it, but this shouldn't freeze the sys
[23:48] <jagadish> Jordan_U, hehehe
[23:49] <DasEi> Praticle: for now I'm out of ideas..
[23:49] <Praticle> DasEi: Ok, Thanks anyway. I've posted on the forums so maybe someone there can help me out. Appreciate the effort!
[23:49] <jagadish> Jordan_U, Looking on the bright side i still can see some colours LOL
[23:50] <DasEi> Praticle: sry for nofurther
[23:50] <eross> which is less resource-hungry, gdesklets or screenlets?
[23:51] <Dr_Willis> eross:  try them both. if one dosdent have the applets you want.. well. :) it dosent matter.
[23:51] <jagadish> Jordan_U, someone was telling me abt compiz.. !!?? what is it
[23:51] <jagadish> ??
[23:51] <Dr_Willis> eross:  thers also opera and its widgits and  the google widgits
[23:51] <Dr_Willis> !compiz | jagadish
[23:51] <hiexpo> Marko!compiz | jagadish
[23:52] <hiexpo> slow lol
[23:52] <LorgonJortle> Jordan_U: Do a quick YouTube search of 'Compiz Ubuntu' and you'll see very quickly what it is.
[23:52] <hiexpo> oops
[23:52] <a-work-cat> anyone know what i have to install to get -lg2c?
[23:52] <Stameni> trism, i have been trying to install it for 3 hours now
[23:52] <Jordan_U> LorgonJortle: I think you meant that for jagadish :)
[23:52] <Stameni> trism, i hope it will work, i have started make again, hope it`ll work
[23:52] <trism> Stameni: python-qt4 is in the repo, you don't need to build it, sudo apt-get install python-qt4;
[23:52] <Stameni> yes
[23:52] <LorgonJortle> Jordan_U: Sorry 'bout that.
[23:53] <Stameni> but you need to install it manualy
[23:53] <jagadish> Jordan_U, LorgonJortle, thanks ...
[23:53] <Stameni> along with some other stuff
[23:53] <Stameni> and that puthonqt4
[23:53] <Stameni> to work with python 3
[23:53] <Dr_Willis> Stameni:    try    sudo apt-get build-dep  python-qt4
[23:53] <Jordan_U> LorgonJortle: np, everyone does it once in a while :0
[23:53] <Dr_Willis> Stameni:  that will install everything that packaghe should need to recompile
[23:54] <hiexpo> or install python from snaptic it will insdtall all nec
[23:54] <jagadish> typin compiz into the terminal is that how i start using it..??
[23:55] <Stameni> Dr_Willis i have no problem installing python-qt4, i installed that, but it`s seams that it is not enaugh to work
[23:55] <hiexpo> sudo apt-get install compiz
[23:55] <Stameni> There are no modules of pyqt4 in python 3 path
[23:55] <Stameni> thats a problem
[23:55] <Max-P> Hi, I have a problem with my touchpad on my laptop (cursor freezes), any idea?
[23:56] <Dr_Willis> Stameni:  the build-dep command installs  the needed devloeper packages to compuile somthing.
[23:56] <jagadish> Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[23:57] <trism> Stameni: did you capitalize it correctly? the module name is PyQt4 not pyqt4
[23:57] <Stameni> Dr_Willis, correct me if i`m wrong... i think that i have done that manually with apt-get install libqt4-devapt-get install libqt4-dev
[23:57] <Stameni> trism, yes i did
[23:57] <Dr_Willis> Stameni:  build-dep installs a Lot of packages that the others may depend on. Try it and see if it suggests anything.
[23:58] <hiexpo> misses the &&
[23:58] <Stameni> Dr_Willis: i`ll try that if this last attempt fails  ( now running in terminal )
[23:59] <Stameni> dont want to stop it now


[01:59] <ScottK> Would someone please take the current koffice from maverick and test backporting it to lucid (no PPAs, just normal lucid).  You can see the existing backport for what needs changing.
[05:45] <ulysses> ScottK: I've got the mesa/drm updates now, it seems to work
[06:04] <ulysses> ScottK: after ~15 minutes the X freezed again, update didn't help
[06:49] <ScottK> ulysses: OK.  Then I'd go to -> #ubuntu-x and see if they have suggestions.
[07:47] <lucidfox> Shame I switched to KDE so late in the release cycle, otherwise I'd have ported Akregator to the messaging menu like i did with Liferea.
[07:48] <lucidfox> Ah well, something to do for Natty, I guess.
[07:48] <persia> Can always do the work in advance (not that there isn't other stuff to do)
[08:44]  * apachelogger_ is wondering how he ended up with a suffix
[08:45] <apachelogger_> Sput: your new core made me get a _ :P
[10:28] <Riddell> persia: boud from upstream ported the koffice arm patch to trunk, could you review it? https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=251866
[10:35] <Riddell> anyone tested amarok on lucid?
[10:38] <sheytan> Riddell i'm updating now
[10:42] <sheytan> Riddell well, works fine, but the applets still don't resize as they should :D
[10:42] <Riddell> sheytan: what version of amarok?
[10:42] <sheytan> Riddell 2.3.2
[10:42] <sheytan> just upgraded
[10:42] <Riddell> sheytan: on i386?
[10:43] <sheytan> Riddell x64
[10:43] <Riddell> oh groovy, that's published now
[10:43] <Riddell> thanks sheytan, I'll put it on the website
[10:43] <sheytan> Riddell, the applet does resize when you unlock and lock back the layout
[10:44] <sheytan> but on next run it's back as it was
[10:44] <sheytan> i mean it's not resized
[10:44] <sheytan> anyway, upgrade works :D
[10:48] <Riddell> voila kubuntu.org/news/amarok-232-backports-ppa
[10:49] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what's the status of KDevelop and Qt?  I see you got kdevplatform in thanks.  Do say if you need help.
[10:50] <sheytan> Wow, the new installer now 'knows'  that you're on virtualbox :D
[10:50]  * sheytan wishes to have the possibility to use " ' " charakter in the computer name
[10:51] <sheytan> to make it something like Sheytan's PC
[10:51] <valorie> sheytan, really?
[10:51] <valorie> we thought we had that fixx0red
[10:51] <sheytan> valorie yes, it changes the computer name to "username-VirtualBox"
[10:51] <sheytan> and the slideshow is still cuted ;(
[10:52] <valorie> no, I mean "the applets still don't resize as they should :D"
[10:52] <valorie> sorry for the confusion
[10:52] <sheytan> valorie oh, yep, it doesn't :)
[10:53] <sheytan> Riddell you know what would be cool for the new website we're working on? A screenshot of Amarok or KDE for the news :D
[10:53] <valorie> I'm pretty sure someone will want to talk to you about that
[10:53] <sheytan> valorie sure :)
[10:53] <Riddell> sheytan: well that's easy enough to do with the current one, I've just got lazy and out of the habit
[10:54] <sheytan> Riddell i already like the ppa box. You made that faster, couse i was working on this for the new website :D
[10:54] <sheytan> and a screenshot would be cool
[10:55] <Riddell> cooler than a screenshot would be the splash screen a la http://dot.kde.org/
[10:55] <Riddell> sheytan: do you want to add it to the story?
[10:56] <sheytan> Riddell you mean splash for the news? :D
[10:56] <persia> Riddell, Thanks for the pointer: that's *lots* faster than I'd do it.
[10:56] <valorie> riddell, thanks for your quick action on getting that story published
[10:57] <valorie> my first attempt at writing for the Dot
[10:57] <Riddell> valorie: thanks for writing it
[10:57] <Riddell> sheytan: yes
[10:57] <sheytan> Riddell sure, why not :)
[10:58] <valorie> nightrose has the full-size in the release doc
[10:58] <valorie> http://amarok.kde.org/en/releases/2.3.2
[10:58] <valorie> I'm glad you scaled it down for the dot, though
[10:58] <valorie> :-)
[10:59] <sheytan> valorie well, mine context is tabbed with playlist
[10:59] <sheytan> but this shouldn't be a problem, right?
[11:00] <valorie> my context is tabbed with collection
[11:00] <sheytan> does it resize good?
[11:00] <valorie> but if you want a screenie, I can do one quickly, untabbed....
[11:00] <persia> Riddell, Looks good to me: the only note is that in other places in the code tree (added between our version and current trunk) literals are done as e.g. "qreal(0.0)" rather than e.g. "(qreal) 0.0", but the provided patch uses my "(qreal) 0.0", which may have very minor performance issues *AND* means the code isn't consistent in style.
[11:00] <valorie> or tabbed, as you prefer
[11:01] <valorie> sheytan, markey would appreciate a screenshot showing the applets funky sized
[11:02] <Riddell> persia: best say so on the bug :)
[11:03]  * persia tries to figure out how to "log in" before commenting is enabled
[11:03] <sheytan> valorie just a sec ;)
[11:03] <persia> Ugh, that requires reading mail :(
[11:04] <valorie> sheytan, can you send the screenshot with funky applets to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[11:04] <valorie> we would appreciate it
[11:04] <sheytan> valorie will do :)
[11:04] <valorie> take your time
[11:04] <valorie> danke
[11:04] <valorie> niters all
[11:04] <Riddell> agateau: I did an interview for a French magazine?
[11:04] <agateau> Riddell: you did :)
[11:05] <Riddell> I hope my French was good enough
[11:05] <agateau> Riddell: and I am bringing an issue to prove it at next UDS
[11:05] <agateau> Riddell: it sure was
[11:05] <Riddell> formidable :)
[11:05] <agateau> you see
[11:06] <agateau> Riddell: I think you are going to enjoy the issue: it comes with a CD of Mint 9, Isadora!
[11:07] <agateau> (which is just a little less funny than the one which come with Ivanka issue: Fedora 13, KDE version, I am sure she'll love it!)
[11:10] <sheytan> valorie well, looks like it works now :D :D
[11:24] <apachelogger> bug 644980 is epic
[11:24] <apachelogger> so is rekonq's inability to view anything properly
[11:31] <sheytan> apachelogger is this really needed to translate applications names?
[11:32] <sheytan> what if someone would translate digikam :D
[11:32] <dpm> sheytan, it is needed in some cases, and it's up to each translation team to decide. We translate things such as "Power Manager", for example
[11:33] <sheytan> dpm well, power manager isn't really the same as i.e qtcreator :D
[11:33] <dpm> sheytan, noticed that I said "in some cases"
[11:33] <dpm> s/noticed/notice/
[11:33] <sheytan> dpm yes, i see :P
[12:10] <Riddell> persia: so boud says you can commit but I don't think you have svn access, want me to commit?
[12:20] <sheytan> ulysses hey, looks like the thing with kde/system language is fixed now :D
[12:20] <sheytan> just installed from the latest build and choosen polish from installer. KDE is now in polish too :D
[12:21] <ulysses> sheytan: good, I can test only later, lessons now and from 16-17:30
[12:22] <sheytan> sure ;)
[12:23] <ulysses> and it's only 13:23
[12:24] <shadeslayer> Riddell: working on Qt now
[12:42] <persia> Riddell, Sure: I'l push a patch tomorrow (tonight I just have no available time).  It will be on the bug before you wake up.
[12:42] <persia> Thanks :)
[12:43] <Riddell> lovely
[12:51] <shadeslayer> qt started compiling :>
[12:52] <Riddell> time to sleep, it'll be done around whenyou wake up
[12:53] <shadeslayer> Riddell: 8 hours? :P ... its 5.30p, here anyways
[12:55] <shadeslayer> too bad compile output doesnt how much is done
[13:29] <debfx> Riddell: could you sponsor kubuntu-notification-helper from bzr
[13:29] <debfx> fixes bug #644947
[13:31] <Riddell> debfx: yes indeed, give me ten minutes
[13:32] <shadeslayer> debfx: i saw that at college... was thinking of fixing.. :P
[13:33] <debfx> shadeslayer: why didn't you say so? :P
[13:33] <shadeslayer> debfx: because IRC is blocked at college :P
[13:33] <shadeslayer> well.. i can come through webchat.. but i dont like it
[13:35] <shadeslayer> debfx: anyways... its done now :)
[13:35] <debfx> I wonder which constructor is used to initalize QStringList with 0
[13:36] <debfx> as QString(0) is ambiguous since qt 4.7
[13:36] <shadeslayer> debfx: hmm?
[13:38] <shadeslayer> debfx: wheres the code at? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/maverick/kubuntu-notification-helper/maverick ?
[13:39] <debfx> shadeslayer: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/kubuntu-notification-helper/trunk/revision/202
[13:39] <shadeslayer> oic
[13:41] <shadeslayer> qt so far so good :D
[13:46] <apachelogger> sheytan: I agree with dpm, sometimes it makes sense, and those times depend on the language but probably even more on what in particular the name is, if it is indeed a name, like say amarok, you should not ever need to translate it
[13:47] <debfx> shadeslayer: it looks like they didn't change anything since the current qt snapshot
[13:47] <debfx> shadeslayer: http://qt.gitorious.org/+qt-developers/qt/releases/commits/4.7.0
[13:47] <shadeslayer> debfx: *shrug* ... still needs to test packeged once :>
[13:58] <Riddell> debfx: uploaded, thanks
[14:08] <shadeslayer> Riddell: im using http://computerpartsdirect.us/images/june/mothmnfanx01_2_efs.jpg to cool my laptop :P
[14:09] <shadeslayer> during qt build
[14:11] <shadeslayer> \o/ power outage
[14:46] <apachelogger> -j17 \o/
[15:31] <shadeslayer> wheeee.... qt FTBFS http://pastebin.ca/1946559
[15:44] <Riddell> erk
[15:45] <Riddell> hum, dunno
[15:45] <Riddell> I'll take a look
[15:47] <Quintasan> oh yeah
[15:47]  * Quintasan just got his CAE certificate and CD straight from Japan
[15:48] <Riddell> what does that mean?
[15:49] <Quintasan> what means what?
[15:49] <Riddell> CAE
[15:49] <Quintasan> Certificate in Advanced English
[15:49] <Riddell> can you spell antidisestablishmentarianism?
[15:50] <Quintasan> I think yes
[15:50] <Quintasan> But let me read it once more :D
[15:51] <yuriy_work> no kubuntu-ppa for karmic? :(
[15:51]  * yuriy_work should really upgrade already
[15:51] <Quintasan> Riddell: I have absolutely no idea what it means but it sounds, well, classy
[15:51] <Riddell> we don't have infinite space I'm afraid
[15:52] <Riddell> Quintasan: it's the opposite of disestablishmentarianism of course
[15:52] <Quintasan> http://www.thefreedictionary.com/disestablishmentarianism
[15:52] <Quintasan> so
[15:53] <Quintasan> antidisestablishmentarianism is an opponent of opponents of established order?
[15:53] <Quintasan> makes perfect sense
[15:57] <shadeslayer> Riddell: also... after running  dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -nc in ftbfs shell..it works fine :S
[15:57] <shadeslayer> soooo... what do you infer from that ? :P
[15:58] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: it's almost party time for us
[15:58] <Quintasan> kdebindings
[15:58] <Quintasan> Quintasan
[15:58] <Riddell> shadeslayer: that qmake is evil
[15:58] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: apart from that :P
[15:58] <Quintasan> oh my, sorry
[15:58] <shadeslayer> Riddell++
[15:59] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: I mean, we have almost everything marked yellow on packaging list
[15:59] <Quintasan> :P
[15:59] <shadeslayer> and then list missing spits out a bunch of not installed headers
[15:59]  * Quintasan is accepting bets on kdebindings FTBFS
[15:59] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: whee
[15:59] <shadeslayer> http://pastebin.ca/1946571
[16:00] <sheytan> looks really professional, right? http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3606/indexov.jpg :D
[16:00] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: what is this madness? fix it right away
[16:00] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: should we get neon.kubuntu.org? :P
[16:00] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ^
[16:00] <shadeslayer> sheytan: i hate so much blue on the top buttons... too bright :*
[16:00] <shadeslayer> erm
[16:01] <shadeslayer> s/:*/:(
[16:01] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: tone down the blue and it will be great
[16:01] <sheytan> shadeslayer, i'll propably reduce is  ;P
[16:01] <Quintasan> gah
[16:01] <Quintasan> sheytan: ^^
[16:01] <Quintasan> and give me a logo for Project Neon, using amarok logo is evul
[16:01] <Quintasan> :
[16:01] <Quintasan> :P
[16:01] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: we haz project neon logo
[16:02] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: http://amarok.kde.org/files/Image/Neon/Neon.png
[16:02] <shadeslayer> you cant find a better logo that that :>
[16:02] <shadeslayer> or if sheytan can better that one :P
[16:02] <sheytan> i'll try ;)
[16:03] <Quintasan> I'm sure we'll get something more sophisticated :P
[16:03] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: http://pastebin.ca/1946571 <-- no, seriously, fix it nao
[16:03] <Quintasan> :P
[16:03] <Riddell> when should we start advertising neon?
[16:03] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: fix0ring in progress please wait :)
[16:04] <shadeslayer> Riddell: middle of october i guess
[16:04] <shadeslayer> we should be able to fix0r most bugs till then
[16:04] <shadeslayer> and all the yellow stuff on the list should be done till end of this week
[16:04] <Quintasan> lol
[16:05] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: kdebindings is left
[16:05] <shadeslayer> FIX IT!!!!
[16:11] <shadeslayer> !search qwebframe.h
[16:12] <shadeslayer> !find qwebframe.h
[16:12] <shadeslayer> !find qwebframe.h maverick
[16:12] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: ^
[16:12] <shadeslayer> we haz different package for webkit
[16:12] <shadeslayer> Riddell: what do i do with these webkit headers?
[16:12] <shadeslayer> document in not-installed?
[16:13] <Riddell> shadeslayer: can do yes
[16:13] <shadeslayer> ok
[16:14] <shadeslayer> well then
[16:14] <shadeslayer> Riddell: qt done.. can i uploadz to ninja ppa?
[16:14] <Riddell> shadeslayer: well you said it didn't compile..
[16:15] <shadeslayer> Riddell: it does after it drops to shell and i resume compile
[16:15] <Riddell> not entirely reassuring that
[16:15] <Riddell> but yeah, go ahead an upload.  do you have enough bandwidth?
[16:15] <shadeslayer> yep :P
[16:15] <Riddell> go for it
[16:17] <shadeslayer> just the build log is 10MB :O
[16:22] <shadeslayer> W: qt4-x11 source: dbg-package-missing-depends libqt4-webkit-dbg : hehehe
[16:24] <shadeslayer> uploading
[16:55] <lex79> 7away
[16:55] <lex79> ops
[17:01] <lex79> we should have this in our final release: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=251192
[17:01] <lex79> http://userbase.kde.org/Plasma/Installing_Plasmoids#I_can.27t_install_plasmoids_in_Plasma_Workspaces_4.5.1
[17:06] <Riddell> lex79: go for it
[17:07] <lex79> ok
[17:07] <lex79> Riddell: what about qt 4.7 ? are you doing?
[17:11] <Riddell> lex79: shadeslayer has uploaded it to ninjas PPA for testing
[17:12] <lex79> good
[17:15] <shadeslayer> Riddell: s/uploaded/uploading :P
[17:18] <shadeslayer> Riddell: ok done
[17:18] <shadeslayer> errr
[17:19] <shadeslayer> :O
[17:19] <shadeslayer> lex79: you uploaded kdepim-runtime 4.6?
[17:19] <lex79> I don't remember
[17:20] <shadeslayer> IIRC that was not supposed to go in
[17:20] <shadeslayer> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/4:4.4.6-0ubuntu1
[17:20] <shadeslayer> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim-runtime/4:4.4.6-0ubuntu1
[17:20] <Riddell> it's 4.5 we don't want
[17:20] <Riddell> 4.4.6 is fine
[17:20] <shadeslayer> ohh.. ok
[17:21] <Riddell> that 0.0.4 makes all the difference
[17:21]  * shadeslayer missed a 4 there in the version
[17:26] <shadeslayer> aha! so finally i have debs in /var/cache/pbuilder/result/
[17:28] <seele_> any git experts in here?
[17:29]  * Riddell hides
[17:29] <Riddell> agateau it a git man
[17:30] <shadeslayer> seele_: ssup?
[17:30] <shadeslayer> not a git expert but maybe i can help
[17:30] <shadeslayer> seele_: also #git :P
[17:31] <seele_> shadeslayer: #git is scary :(
[17:31] <shadeslayer> i know ... but anyways.. whats the issue?
[17:31] <seele_> shadeslayer: i cloned a repository, but when i go to pull updates it complains there is no .git file
[17:32] <shadeslayer> err
[17:32] <shadeslayer> seele_: you didnt remove it right? :P
[17:32] <seele_> no.. i dont think it was ever there
[17:33] <seele_> can i just use the git url again?
[17:33] <shadeslayer> seele_: just git clone url again
[17:33] <shadeslayer> in a new dir that is
[17:34] <shadeslayer> you can  git diff your current work and save that as a patch
[17:34] <seele_> ooh, that's easy
[17:34] <seele_> thanks, sorry for the stupid question
[17:34] <shadeslayer> and if youve commited any stuff, git diff -r rev
[17:35] <Riddell> git diff won't work if you don't have a .git directory
[17:35] <shadeslayer> Riddell: erm.. he has a .git dir but not a .git file i think
[17:35] <seele_> Riddell: but i can use the new .git directory, yes?
[17:35] <shadeslayer> which is weird tbh
[17:36] <shadeslayer> or you can run diff -Nur between the 2 source tress
[17:36] <shadeslayer> *trees
[17:36] <Riddell> seele_: yes
[17:37] <seele_> thanks
[17:39] <neversfelde> I do not remember, if  told you that amarok is in backports
[17:43] <shadeslayer> \o/ qt building in ninja
[17:44] <Riddell> neversfelde: it's on kubuntu.org
[17:45] <neversfelde> k
[17:49] <debfx> great, they added google-analytics scripts to all qt doc pages
[17:49] <debfx> now we need adblock for qt assistant ^^
[17:56] <shadeslayer> debfx: lol
[17:59] <debfx> or we just disable javascript
[18:00] <ScottK> lucidfox: Before you port Akregator, make sure you're familiar with how message indicator (and it's more of an indicator still) works in KDE.  Also we have been pretty insistent that such patches be accepted upstream (all of them are so far) - We have been very successful in getting the ayatana changes we've adopted upstream and want to keep up with that.
[18:01] <Riddell> akregator doesn't have much of an upstream maintainer currently
[18:01] <Riddell> maybe lucidfox can take over upstream :)
[18:01] <ScottK> Well that would make it kind of interesting then.
[18:15] <lex79> pbuilder is broken http://pastebin.ca/1946658
[18:15] <lex79> something is wrong with bzip2
[18:18] <ScottK> lex79: You got libbz2-1.0 from -updates and bzip2 from lucid.  I'd pbuilder-update and try it again.
[18:23] <lex79> ScottK: it works, thanks
[18:24] <ScottK> You;;re welcome.
[18:35] <shadeslayer> apparently i haz no more qt4-X11 build log -.-
[18:37] <maco> shadeslayer: seele isnt a he
[18:38] <shadeslayer> maco: ohhk... :)
[19:00] <Quintasan> ...
[19:00] <Quintasan> no, seriously
[19:01] <Quintasan> Why I was thinking that when I would print a *.gif it would still move?
[19:11] <maco> Quintasan: hahaha
[19:17] <lex79> ScottK: can you accept kdelibs? I tested the patch, it works.
[19:21] <Quintasan> then I came to realise my own foolishness
[19:21] <ScottK> lex79: Accepted.
[19:21] <lex79> ScottK: thanks
[19:22] <maco> UDS flights booked
[19:28] <Quintasan> argh still no response
[19:28] <neversfelde> mhh
[19:28] <neversfelde> no UDS for me again :(
[19:29] <Quintasan> neversfelde: no sponsoriship or you are just unable to go?
[19:29] <neversfelde> Quintasan: unable to go
[19:30] <neversfelde> if Kubuntu will not change the release dates, I think I will never be able to go there :)
[19:31] <Quintasan> gah, if I don't get any response I won't be able to go there too
[19:31] <Quintasan> :/
[19:33] <lex79> shadeslayer: still around?
[22:12] <fejjerai> shadeslayer: ping
[22:12] <fejjerai> shadeslayer: need to reboot the core real quick
[22:19] <howlymowly> hi poeple...  in maverick...  (i just installed it) kopete does not work yet right?
[22:19] <howlymowly> it does not even show upin the taskbar on my system...
[22:41] <ScottK> howlymowly: It's in the message indicator.  No need for a separate icon cluttering the systray.
[22:42] <howlymowly> ScottK: but what If I do not use the message indicator :)?
[22:42] <howlymowly> kopete just doesn't seem to work..I dont know...
[22:42] <ScottK> howlymowly: Then start in manually and change the config.  It's just a default.
[22:43] <ScottK> It's working on my maverick system, so the problem isn't general.
[22:44] <howlymowly> ScottK:  I just found out:  for some reason my kopete seemd to ahve problems with the old configuration file from kubuntu lucid
[22:45] <howlymowly> afteer I deleted the kopete directory from .kde/share/apps/  eerything works fine :)
[22:45] <howlymowly> as expected...
[22:45] <ScottK> Ah.  My maverick system is a fresh install.  That's worth a bug I think.
[22:46] <howlymowly> ScottK.. i guess so...  I just can not reproduce the bug anymore since I just deleted the configuration ehe
[22:46] <howlymowly> *hehe
[22:47] <ScottK> Right, but at least file it.
[22:47] <howlymowly> doing it right now...
[22:55] <JontheEchidna> debfx: thanks for the fix. I wrote that bit of code back before I really knew how ctor member variable initialization worked. (I do know ;-))
[23:38] <claydoh> ScottK:  you still looking for me? or was it some other good looking dude


 That sounds like fun. ;)
[02:20] <cmaloney> Actually, I'm gawking at how much Sinclair ZX-80 machines go for online: http://ur1.ca/mja3d
[02:20] <_stink_> daang
[02:21] <jrwren> wow.
[02:21] <_stink_> i have a sinclair 1000
[02:21] <cmaloney> Same here
[02:21] <jrwren> i'm pretty sure I first used one because my pops got it for $20 at a garage sale
[02:21] <_stink_> this one is rarer i think?
[02:21] <jrwren> in '89 or so
[02:21] <cmaloney> The ZX80 preveeded it
[02:21] <_stink_> right
[02:21] <cmaloney> And the Timex Sinclair 1000 is pretty common over here.
[02:22] <cmaloney> I'm getting a ZX81 kit in the mail from a Craigslist ad I found in San Francisco
[02:22] <cmaloney> Managed to get lucky to find someone who wasn't opposed to shipping
[02:22] <cmaloney> sadly the guy who owned it passed away and the Window enlisted a close friend to sell it online
[02:25] <cmaloney> http://ur1.ca/mjacv
[02:25] <cmaloney> Apparnetly someone sold the entire Jupiter Ace brand
[02:26] <cmaloney> Or rather they tried
[02:27] <_stink_> yeah i don't see a winner on there
[02:27] <cmaloney> http://www.sinclairzxworld.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1355
[02:27] <cmaloney> Thread I'm looking at
[02:30] <cmaloney> I actually had a ZX80 in my hands but couldn't convince the person to part with it.
[02:30] <cmaloney> I don't think it was his unfortunately.
[02:33] <_stink_> and you judged that he runs faster than you?
[02:34] <cmaloney> he's a friend so I wasn't about to try it
[02:34] <_stink_> hah
[02:35] <_stink_> having friends.
[02:35] <cmaloney> Bad business decisions, having friends and all
[02:45] <_stink_> one day you'll learn
[02:45] <cmaloney> Yeah, no doubt.
[11:04] <rick_h_> morning
[11:04] <rick_h_> cmaloney: heads up, don't think I'm going to make CHC
[12:10] <cmaloney> rick_h_: considering I thought this week was early edition I thought you were already on the rlad. ;)
[12:11]  * cmaloney os all sorts of goofed
[12:11] <rick_h_> heh
[12:11] <cmaloney> everything OK?
[12:11] <rick_h_> yea, just late work meeting
[12:11] <rick_h_> we'll see if it's all ok after that heh
[12:11] <cmaloney> ah, here's hoping it doesn't spiral
[15:04] <cmaloney> <3 my users. "Here's the error I'm getting" (attached is "Print screen.docx")
[15:08] <_stink_> yes i love those
[15:09] <_stink_> what's really fun is if someone makes one of those in word on windows, and then you open the doc in libreoffice, often you can see the entire screen in the screenshot
[15:09] <_stink_> because the data is there but word enforces a boundary
[15:09] <_stink_> that libreoffice does not
[15:09] <cmaloney> Haven't seen those yet.
[15:10] <_stink_> so they think they are sending just a window screenshot... but all their other depraved stuff is visible
[15:11] <cmaloney> The one that I love is when they send over their email inbox numbers.  I don't get it.
[20:35] <cscheib> feels clunky and slow, even on fast systems, IMO.  And it just feels wrong
[21:04] <jrwren> cscheib: i've never had the clunkly slow experience with this.
[21:04] <jrwren> cscheib: you using ie6 or something?
[21:06] <cscheib> chrome, safari


[03:13] <Dyehuthye> join #ubuntu.es
[09:25] <studio-user898> hello
[15:06] <studio-user617> hy all
[15:06] <studio-user617> i'm serching driver for M-Audio firewire 1814
[15:06] <studio-user617> for ubuntu
[15:06] <studio-user617> someone can answer me?
[15:25] <studio-user617> thank's so much