[01:25] <Kwisher> keep seeing this error: Protocol version check failure. The response to MYTH_PROTO_VERSION was empty. This happens when the backend is too busy to respond, or has deadlocked due to bugs or hardware failure.
[01:33] <TandyUK> anyone else thought about writign a tablet template for mythweb?
[01:34] <TandyUK> is mythbackend listening on its correct external ip address (ie not <IP_ADDRESS>)
[01:35] <TandyUK> or have you installed a firewall and forgotten to open ports (check iptables -L)
[01:36] <TandyUK> tbh, with the table layout, all i care about is listings and recorded programs, and the buttons under "play on frontend"
[01:36] <TandyUK> s/table/tablet
[03:00] <qwebirc12301> I'm sort of a clueless noob and hope you will forgive me... I've been running MythTV for a year or so. Just installed 160 updated (big mistake) and now MythTV reboots to "MythTV Login:" - no desktop. Where do I start? Backend is still working fine, recording programs for me. Thanks for any ideas!
[03:01] <qwebirc12301> ... 160 updates ...
[03:02] <qwebirc12301> AMD Zacate motherboard with ATI Radeon integrated graphics. I was running the ATI Catalyst beta to get audio over HDMI. Everything worked fine...
[05:12] <qwebirc12301> I've been running MythTV for a year or so. Just installed 160 updates (big mistake) and now MythTV reboots to "MythTV Login:" - no desktop. Where do I start? Backend is still working fine, recording programs for me. AMD Zacate motherboard with ATI Radeon integrated graphics. I was running the ATI Catalyst beta to get audio over HDMI. Everything worked fine... How do I restart the desktop?  Thanks for any ideas!
[05:18] <superm1> qwebirc12301: depending on how you installed the video driver i'm suspecting that's the problem
[05:18] <superm1> if you installed it by hand and didn't use .deb's, you'll probably need to reinstall it
[05:18] <superm1> or install an updated one, or one from the repositories instead
[05:20] <qwebirc12301> With the right device driver, if I reboot will I get the desktop back?
[05:20] <qwebirc12301> (thanks very much!)
[05:31] <superm1> qwebirc12301: Yep
[05:31] <superm1> the driver you had installed is probably fine, it's just that if it's hand installed it won't automatically rebuild the kernel modules possibly when you update the kernel
[05:31] <superm1> i'm guessing that's probably what happened
[05:47] <qwebirc12301> Thanks. I did aticonfig --uninstall but will wait until the current recording finishes to reboot. Thanks very much for the help! If I comeup with a solution, should I write it up somewhere? Thanks again.
[05:55] <superm1> qwebirc12301: sure feel free to blog about it
[05:55] <superm1> no problem
[19:22] <Kwisher_wrk> any idea why an arch secondary b/e all of of a sudden will not communicate with a ubuntu master b/e?


[09:10] <froyo> hi
[18:11] <cliftonts> Hi guys. Could anyone point me in the right direction to wrap my head around creating simple apps and scopes? I'm looking at the suggested page 'https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/' but there are 8 different directions to go wander off in and it's not clear which will help me.
[19:46] <cliftonts> I am attempting to create an html5 app for the phone, just to learn how it is done. Is it possible to use javascript in the app?
[20:38] <renato___> hey beuno, I am getting this error while trying to upload my app to app store: The uploaded package name (renato.trakt-tv-touch) does not use your namespace (renato)
[20:39] <renato___> beuno, can you help me with that? I am not sure what I am doing wrong
[22:31] <beuno> renato___, it's the other way around
[22:32] <beuno> packagename.username
[22:32] <beuno> did the SDK auto-generate that for you?


[09:01] <Mr_Pan> hi guys
[09:28] <Kilos> hi
[09:40] <nicoz-> hi dudes ;)
[09:52] <Kilos> hi
[09:55] <nicoz-> hi Kilos ;)*
[09:55] <nicoz-> how are you today?
[10:04] <Kilos> tired but ok and you?
[10:05] <nicoz-> pretty well today, today is a beautiful day here in salerno
[10:05] <nicoz-> it's cold but at least there is the sun, which drives away all negative thoughts :P
[10:50] <Kilos> hahahaha
[10:58] <Mr_Pan> hey i live in Germany near Switzerland's border ...
[10:59] <Mr_Pan> no sun until Feb/march ;(
[11:06] <nicoz-> Kilos what's the weather like at your place?
[11:07] <Kilos> cooler today, big storm last night and no power for 12 hours
[11:10] <nicoz-> I hate it when there is a lack of electricity
[11:33] <Kilos> oh my no sun for months, thats not good


[16:02] <King_InuYasha> hey, is there anyone here who can help me figure out how to request the rpm package to be sync'd from sid to bionic?
[16:10] <ginggs> King_InuYasha: man requestsync
[16:11] <King_InuYasha> ginggs: does that work for people who aren't ubuntu developers?
[16:15] <tarzeau> rpm?
[16:16] <tarzeau> ubuntu bionic is frozen, you need to request an exception, it's documented somewhere: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule
[16:17] <tarzeau> King_InuYasha: works for anyone who can read, understand and follow instructions.
[16:17]  * tarzeau wonders which package that is to be wanted sync'd
[16:44] <King_InuYasha> tarzeau: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rpm/+bug/1756566
[20:39] <Unit193> I think requestsync is in ubuntu-dev-tools which is in Debian, though doubt anyone would want to for a one off. :P
[20:41] <King_InuYasha> Unit193: I spun an Ubuntu container for this, blech
[20:41] <King_InuYasha> that was a lot of crap for one tool
[20:45] <Unit193> King_InuYasha: Heh, and I thought installing a package might be a bit much for such a feat. :P
[20:45] <King_InuYasha> Unit193: my machine runs Fedora
[20:46] <King_InuYasha> and we don't have ubuntu-dev-tools in the distribution
[20:46] <King_InuYasha> so I spun an nspawn container of bionic for this...
[20:46] <Unit193> Right, of course not.
[23:52] <rbasak> King_InuYasha: all the tool does is file a bug with the appropriate information. You can just file a bug by hand following the same pattern as some other sync request if you prefer. Bit late now I suppose.
[23:53] <rbasak> (also I suspect that ~ubuntu-sponsors automatially gets subscribed to the bug; you'd need to do that by hand as well)
[23:59] <juliank> it's also documented in the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SyncRequestProcess


[02:23] <teward> question: is there a reason libc6-dev-i386 is an amd64 package, and libc6-dev-amd64 is a i386 package, and not the other way around?
[02:23] <teward> (in Trusty)
[02:26] <Logan_> teward: because they're for developing for the other architecture
[02:26] <teward> Logan_, ahhh, that explains it, thanks.
[02:27] <Logan_> Riddell: could you please merge k3b for the libav10 transition?
[02:30] <teward> Logan_, okay, next question: how come there's no /usr/include/sys/ symlink or otherwise on i386 or amd64's libc6-dev package(s)?
[02:30] <teward> based on #ubuntu i'm seeing that that lack of a symlink or folder is causing some source-code-compiling problems
[02:31] <teward> psusi, Logan_: if either of you have any insight... ^
[11:08] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:46] <cjwatson> teward: It's in /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/sys/ etc. (and similarly for i386).  /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/ (etc.) is on the default include path so if this breaks anything it's generally the fault of a broken build system that wrongly thinks it knows better than the compiler.
[11:46] <cjwatson> It's that way as part of multiarch support.
[13:08] <mapreri> stgraber: I packaged pencil2d in debian, and now it's in ubuntu. My first intention was to remove pencil from ubuntu and keep only pencil2d, but pencil is seeded in edubuntu. could you test pencil2d to see if it fulfil your needs and in the case change the edubuntu seeds? (see #1306960) if you want I can send you an email
[13:09] <mapreri> bug #1306960
[14:11] <stgraber> mapreri: ok, I'll take a look. Feel free to nag me again if I haven't done so in a week :)
[14:57]  * highvoltage tries out pencil2d
[15:10] <stgraber> highvoltage: ah, even better if you can do that :)
[15:12] <highvoltage> stgraber: looks good, should I through it in a merge request or do you want to do it directly?
[15:14] <stgraber> highvoltage: I'll update the seed directly, thanks
[15:14] <highvoltage> stgraber: cool
[15:16] <stgraber> highvoltage, mapreri: seed updated. Refreshing edubuntu-meta now and that should be all we need to drop pencil.
[15:18] <highvoltage> great. thanks for checking your package(s) in ubuntu, mapreri!
[16:40] <mapreri> stgraber: highvoltage: thank you for a so quick reply. I mind if I should upload pencil as a dummy package... what do you think?
[18:52] <orbisvicis> ubuntu doesn't spindown external usb-powered hard drives on shutdown. leads to drive damage. should I file a bug, is it in upstart ?
[19:16] <orbisvicis> so, which folder in /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts is responsible for the shutdown script ?
[20:44] <teward> cjwatson, that fails with some third-party sources, where the instructions and build scripts refer to /usr/include/sys/something.h
[20:44] <teward> cjwatson, as observed in #ubuntu at the time of my question.
[20:45] <teward> cjwatson, that being said, I understand the reasoning for it as-is, but it seems confusing for non-devs and non-power-users why that's the case
[22:59] <infinity> teward: Things that reference header locations absolutely are pretty much broken by design.  But it would be more helpful to see the actual problem code, maybe it's a third-party application we could, like, help and send a patch for?


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