[00:00] <TJ-> jeff3: The only place the monitor will be reported is by X server tools. Try "xrandr -q"
[00:00] <jeff3> It won't appear in lspci?
[00:00] <sagredo> TJ-: returns nothing
[00:00] <sagredo> TJ-: can i try to mount SDA somehow?
[00:00] <sagredo> !mount
[00:01] <cynicallemon> svetlana: the iwlwifi package in debian is in the non-free section - thats a good indication
[00:01] <svetlana> cynicallemon, ack, thanks
[00:01] <TJ-> cynicallemon: svetlana module "iwlwifi" is part of the kernel, GPL licensed, and 'free' ... there may be devices requiring non-free firmware
[00:01] <svetlana> hm ?
[00:02] <svetlana> that already contradicts things
[00:02] <svetlana> or maybe not.. hm
[00:02] <jeff3> TJ- thanks, is there a way I can use it to get and set the proper refresh rates?
[00:02] <svetlana> how do i check whether i am using non-free firmware myself on a specific machine ?
[00:02] <TJ-> svetlana: "modinfo iwlwifi | grep license"
[00:03] <svetlana> TJ-, ye, it says gpl; am i using non free firmware with that?
[00:04] <Deihmos> does ubuntu have any intention to change the UI?
[00:04] <jeff3> Somewhere I think there is a GUI that allows you to configure the monitor and X windows but I forget what it is, do you know what it is?
[00:04] <sagredo> TJ-: ?
[00:04] <Deihmos> not s fsn of the side dock
[00:04] <x_root> Deihmos, you can change.. xfce (xubuntu) for example..
[00:04] <TJ-> svetlana: possibly: "ls /lib/firmware/iwlwifi*"
[00:04] <Deihmos> those are ugly
[00:04] <sagredo> TJ-: sudo parted /dev/sda print returns nothing
[00:04] <x_root> Deihmos, tried gnome-shell?
[00:05] <TJ-> sagredo: That means the drive has lost its partition table - urgh!
[00:05] <x_root> i'm using with some extensions (simple-dock, weather) and is.. nice :D
[00:05] <svetlana> TJ-, http://dpaste.com/3MER9R1
[00:05] <TJ-> sagredo: check through "less /var/log/kern.log" and look for any I/O errors for sda.
[00:06] <TJ-> svetlana: I missed your original issue; can you restate it please?
[00:06] <TJ-> jeff3: It sounds as if the monitor is not returning EDID (Extended Display Information Description) data to the GPU. To check that, read the X server log: "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[00:06] <x_root> hey TJ- you know if is possible to use multi-touch support in ubuntu 14.04 (like a 3 fingers or 4 fingers support..)
[00:07] <x_root> maybe someone had answered (i asked this before) but i have to restart.. so.. =/
[00:07] <x_root> i had*
[00:07] <TJ-> x_root: I think that's what ubuntu-touch are up to: try "/join #ubuntu-touch"
[00:08] <x_root> TJ-, well.. maybe works.. i'll try :) thanks
[00:08] <svetlana> TJ-, trying to figure out whether i'm using non free firmware or not
[00:08] <TJ-> svetlana: which device is it? "lspci -nn" ... I'm interested in the PCI [vendor:prodcut] ID string at the end
[00:09] <sagredo> TJ-: Aug 15 10:15:39 ubuntu kernel: [  104.954680] sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] Unhandled error code
[00:09] <jeff3> TJ-, what am I looking for in this log file?
[00:10] <TJ-> svetlana: Also, try "grep firmware /var/log/dmesg" that will show something like I get: "[   15.941782] iwl4965 0000:0b:00.0: loaded firmware version <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:10] <TJ-> "
[00:10] <TJ-> sagredo: OK, you have a failing or failed disk. Can you "tail -n 1000 /var/log/kern.log | pastebinit"   ?
[00:11] <TJ-> jeff3: Any mentions of "EDID" along with (WW) warning or (EE) error indicators
[00:11] <TJ-> jeff3: Do "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log" and I'll take a look
[00:12] <jeff3> TJ-, here ya go http://paste.ubuntu.com/8058447/
[00:13] <tiemay> I forgot the user/root password for an ubuntu installation which has the home directory (not whole disk or filesystem) encrypted. However following these instructions upon the installation https://cdn.mediacru.sh/vmzFdRpUom3r.png I have the "strong passphrase" which was automatically generated. Could someone point me to documentation on how to "manually recover this directory" using the "strong password"?
[00:14] <OerHeks> tiemay, if you have not stored or written down that password, i guess it is very safe.
[00:15] <tiemay> OerHeks: that wasn't my question
[00:15] <tiemay> * that doesn't answer my question
[00:15] <TJ-> jeff3: That shows the X server is using a custom "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" rather than using device auto-discovery, Has the nvidia proprietary driver, and a ViewSonic VX2260WM at 1920x1080 resolution
[00:16] <jeff3> TJ-, should I use device auto discovery instead?
[00:16] <sagredo> TJ-: http://pastebin.com/7xdzfa24
[00:16] <sagredo> TJ-: can i just try to force mount it
[00:17] <cynicallemon> svetlana: there is a package called vrms which tests for non-free software but im not sure how upto date or how accurate it is
[00:17] <OerHeks> tiemay, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Live_CD_method_of_opening_a_encrypted_home_directory
[00:17] <TJ-> tiemay: See "man ecryptfs-recover-private"
[00:18] <tiemay> thanks, I'll take a look
[00:18] <cynicallemon> tiemay: and why didnt you write down the passphrase as instructed? :)
[00:18] <TJ-> sagredo: It is not possible to mount drives, you mount the file-systems contained in the partitions
[00:19] <sagredo> TJ-: so how can i rescue the data on the drive?
[00:19] <TJ-> sagredo: unfortunately, that pastebin log didn't go back far enough... no sign of sda messages. Can you do "pastebinit /var/log/kern.log" so I can see the entire file?
[00:19] <veryhappy> hey guys, i got a strange problem, when i connect my usb mouse with my netbook the mouse works for a few seconds and switches off after inactivity, well first i thought it wouldn't work then anymore, but it works after a click on the mouse it switches on again until i click a button, could that be a weird setting or what could be the issue?
[00:19] <tiemay> cynicallemon: I wrote down the "strong passphrase" as instructed, I forgot the user/root passphrase (which I wasn't advised to write down)
[00:19] <sagredo> TJ-: i dont know if i can install pastbinit
[00:20] <veryhappy> i meant my mouse always just works after a new click as long until it gets inactive, then it switches off again.
[00:20] <sagredo> TJ-: I'm on 13.04
[00:20] <TJ-> sagredo: Hmmm, well any way you can, try to get the entire kern.log into pastebin
[00:21] <TJ-> sagredo: which is now unsupported and EOL if it has problems.
[00:22] <sagredo> TJ-: :(
[00:22] <TJ-> svetlana: In package "linux-firmware" you'll find it has the file "/usr/share/doc/linux-firmware/licenses/LICENCE.iwlwifi_firmware" which describes the Intel firmware license
[00:23] <TJ-> sagredo: I need to see that log-file to determine the extent of the disk errors. It may be the disk is now totally dead, or there may be a chance to recover something
[00:23] <sagredo> TJ-: ok
[00:23] <hhhhhh> hey everybody
[00:23] <svetlana> TJ-, 14:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection [8086:4229] (rev 61)
[00:23] <sagredo> TJ-: how can i output the log to a .txt?
[00:23] <sagredo> in its entirety?
[00:23] <TJ-> veryhappy: Have you replaced the batteries with fully charged/new ones?
[00:23] <svetlana> TJ-, [   53.696420] iwl4965 0000:14:00.0: loaded firmware version <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:24] <TJ-> svetlana: Same chipset as on my lappy then, so the file I just pointed you to containing the license will tell you the terms
[00:24] <Christian> hi
[00:24] <svetlana> cynicallemon, this only lists skype, no iwlwifi things (either it's inaccurate or i'm using free firmware)
[00:24] <veryhappy> TJ i got it, it is a cable usb mouse, that's why i found this one really odd, it has to do with the package "laptop-mode-tools" which is only on battery switching the mouse off after 3 seconds of inactivity
[00:24] <TJ-> sagredo: Errr, yes. I can't work from snippets :)
[00:24] <Guest25058> I am having a horrible problem trying to utilize my virtualhost
[00:25] <Guest25058> can someone help out with this?
[00:25] <svetlana> TJ-, /usr/share/doc/linux-firmware/licenses/LICENCE.iwlwifi_firmware is a lovely file saying i can only distribute binaries and i cant modify them
[00:25] <TJ-> veryhappy: Oh... cable, doh!! :)  ... are the usb ports being powered down to save watts?
[00:25] <OERIAS> What is the ubuntu offtopic called?
[00:25] <cynicallemon> svetlana: i guess its because there is no iwlwifi package maybe as its in the kernel
[00:26] <Fevix> I managed to get a USB boot disk going, but it refuses to recognize the other USB drive, instead trying to install to my hard drive. Does the other USB drive have to not be a boot disk itself? (I figured it would think the boot disk was an OS and offer to either install alongside or overwrite)
[00:26] <Guest25058> hi is anyone here familiar with setting up httpd.conf files?
[00:26] <svetlana> TJ-, aww, i see ... i am trying to install a more free distro on it, i guess i'll need to get a new wifi thingy and plug it into usb
[00:26] <CraftThatBlock> well i've been having a problem for hours and I just found out it was because of ubuntu derping with my USB 3.0
[00:26] <svetlana> TJ-, what laptop if i can ask ? you using a fujitsu laptop or something else and only the chopset is sme ?
[00:26] <svetlana> same*
[00:26] <OERIAS> What is the ubuntu offtopic called?
[00:26] <CraftThatBlock> at least it's working (still loading*)
[00:27] <Guest25058> what does that mean?
[00:27] <TJ-> svetlana: Yes ... you don't even know the microcontroller or opcode set used in the device, let alone having access to a compiler for that, so that makes sense. The various regulatory regimes around the world require the manufacturers to ensure the devices cannot be modified to generate interference outside the specifications
[00:27] <TJ-> svetlana: Dell XPS
[00:27] <cynicallemon> svetlana: in debian, firmware-iwlwifi listed as non-free by vrms
[00:27] <veryhappy> TJ, this is a netbook i optimized with a few crazy optimizations, i first installed a server kernel and on top of that a realtime kernel with a few crazy additional settings, too. then i made my netbook save energy again with laptop-mode-tools and that one switches off the mouse after inactivity only when running on battery. that's it :D
[00:27] <sagredo> TJ-: here it is http://pastebin.com/U0N9D6XS
[00:27] <TJ-> veryhappy: well it's doing what you asked it to :)
[00:27] <Guest25058> can anyone here help me with my server?
[00:28] <TJ-> sagredo: Great! well done, I'm reading now
[00:28] <Bashing-om> OERIAS:  -# ubuntu-ot ??
[00:28] <Guest25058> can anyone see my posts?
[00:28] <Fevix> Can someone walk me through how to burn an iso to a USB drive using Windows?
[00:28] <Guest25058> do I have to be logged in?
[00:28] <veryhappy> TJ it seems like it does, but way too fast, normally you don't look into every configuration file on  your pc or notebook/netbook. :D
[00:29] <cynicallemon> Fevix: windiskimager is your best friend
[00:29] <bjpenn> when one installs ubuntu and they put in the "domain", where is that used? /etc/hosts?
[00:29] <OERIAS> I have been helped Thank you!
[00:29] <Fevix> cynicallemon: Will this install it as if it's a hard drive, or make it a boot disk?
[00:30] <TJ-> sagredo: It has 2 partitions and the partition table was readable initially: "kernel: [    6.232302]  sda: sda1 sda2" but soon the drive refuses to answer "   71.875130] ata2.00: failed command: WRITE FPDMA QUEUED"
[00:30] <veryhappy> Fevix: this is ubuntu linux channel, if you want to "burn" an iso to usb use disk dump (dd) under linux or use unetbootin if you want to setup a bootable usb disk for installation purposes.
[00:30] <cynicallemon> Fevix it will make a stock live boot cd with option to install
[00:30] <Fevix> I'd rather have the former, as this USB drive will be used as a temp replacement for a broken hard drive.
[00:31] <veryhappy> ok tj and all others i'm leaving now. take care
[00:31] <cynicallemon> Fevix: not cd, usb
[00:31] <TJ-> sagredo: then the drive refuses to reset and goes AWOL: "[   77.189758] ata2.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error, err_mask=0x4)"
[00:31] <Fevix> I don't want it as a bootable usb disk with option to install, I want it as a hard disk.
[00:31] <sagredo> TJ-: hrmmm
[00:31] <sagredo> TJ-: are there any recovery tools you could recommend?
[00:31] <veryhappy> Fevix: use it as a hard disk then.
[00:31] <TJ-> sagredo: Summary: Drive is dead
[00:31] <svetlana> cynicallemon, i should file a bug for it to be listed as nonfree in ubuntu?
[00:31] <Guest25058> hi
[00:31] <bjpenn> what is the "domain" value used for? where is stored after you type it into the installation wizard?
[00:32] <Guest25058> i have a questions about httd.conf file
[00:32] <veryhappy> bye guys
[00:32] <Fevix> I tried using a second USB drive as a boot disk to install to the desired USB drive, but it didn't let me pick where to install to, and simply tried to install to my hard drive
[00:32] <svetlana> TJ-, your understanding of this and a detailed answer are most appreciated; a big thank you
[00:32] <Fevix> The target USB drive is a 32GB drive, it should have more than enough space
[00:32] <Guest25058> hello
[00:32] <Guest25058> can someone see me
[00:32] <cynicallemon> svetlana: debian and ubuntu have different ideas about whats free and non-free, thats why RMS has a thing about ubuntu
[00:32] <Guest25058> can you help me
[00:33] <pixel1> hello
[00:33] <sagredo> TJ-: ?
[00:33] <TJ-> svetlana: The fact the firmware is in "linux-firmware" indicates it has something other than a GPL license. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Firmware
[00:33] <svetlana> Guest25058, yes
[00:33] <TJ-> sagredo: The drive is dead
[00:33] <sagredo> TJ-: but it is still spinning
[00:33] <sagredo> :(
[00:34] <Fevix> sagredo: Hardware and software can fail differently
[00:34] <TJ-> sagredo: So? that just means it has power. That has nothing to do with its controller not being dead
[00:34] <sagredo> TJ-: well thanks for your help
[00:34] <sagredo> TJ-: I do not even know what a drive controller is
[00:35] <sagredo> TJ-: do you think it could recovered professionally?
[00:35] <TJ-> sagredo: That's unknown, but the cost will likely be prohibitive
[00:35] <svetlana> sagredo: you have a book which you hold with your hands and your eyes. the book is rotten; your hand and your eyes are the controller. -- this is probably a simple way to put it.
[00:35] <svetlana> and read with your eyes*
[00:35] <Fevix> Trying to use one USB boot disk to install to another USB drive, boot disk ignores other USB drive, tries to install to hard disk
[00:35] <sagredo> svetlana: interesting :)
[00:35] <Guest25058> hi can someone help me with my server?
[00:36] <TJ-> svetlana: That analogy didn't help LOL
[00:36] <svetlana> aw :p
[00:36] <sagredo> TJ-: well TJ brownie points to you friend
[00:37] <Fevix> Would my use of a USB hub on both drives be affecting this?
[00:37] <Fevix> SHould I plug both into the motherboard USB ports?
[00:37] <accatoro> !list
[00:37] <TJ-> sagredo: If you want a chance at recovery first thing is disconnect the drive and let it cool right down... *don't* put in a refridgerator else condensation could form internally.... just put it someplace cool. When it is cold, attach it to a Linux PC, start it, and immediately see if you get a window of readability before the drive goes offline. If so, you *may* be able to recover data by keeping the drive cold whilst it is operating
[00:38] <TJ-> sagredo: But I warn you, recovery like that is very complex and needs expertise and a lot of patience
[00:38] <sagredo> TJ-: alright, cheers
[00:38] <sagredo> thanks
[00:38] <TJ-> Fevix: Yes, connect direct to the motherboard for booting
[00:38] <ubuntupc9> hello!  I bought a Wifi usb adapter and wanted to know if there is a way to read the devices firmware
[00:39] <Fevix> TJ-: Alright, will do
[00:39] <Guest25058> cxm /msg nickserv register that1979<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[00:39] <Fevix> BBIAB if anything goes wrong
[00:39] <Fevix> Thanks
[00:39] <Guest25058> lol well that didn't wokr
[00:39] <TJ-> sagredo You know from the log-file that sda has two partitions, so you ought to try mounting sda1 and sda2 as soon as the cold drive is ready
[00:40] <Guest25058> can someone help me
[00:40] <TJ-> ubuntupc9: Generally no - device firmware access is manufacturer-specific and usually a closely guarded secret
[00:40] <jeff3> Okay, I tried uninstalling the proprietary nvidia driver and installing the ubuntu nvidia driver and now I cannot get any display at all, not even a command prompt.  How can I fix this?
[00:40] <source47> hi guys. i am trying to install lxc on ubuntu 14
[00:40] <source47> but having some errors
[00:40] <Guest25058> I have a question... If I want to make my hard drive larger... do I have to make my partition larger or how does that work?
[00:40] <ubuntupc9> ah ok TJ-  does anything on ubuntu autorun when a USB device is plugged in?
[00:40] <TJ-> jeff3: It was working earlier according to the log-file you showed me; why did you remove the driver?
[00:41] <Guest25058> and do I have to unmount it to do that?
[00:41] <source47> https://gist.github.com/developerinlondon/44c063e1d3a82e4b4d34
[00:41] <ubuntupc9> I bought this at defcon last weekend and want to be certain nothing "bad" is in the firmware
[00:41] <jeff3> TJ-: because it was not auto detecting the hardware like you said
[00:41] <TJ-> ubuntupc9: When a device is attached, if it has valid file-systems, they can be auto-mounted by GVFS, and will appear under "/media/$USER/"
[00:42] <martin1989> hello everyone!
[00:42] <jeff3> is there a way to get a command prompt back so that I can reinstall the nvidia driver?
[00:42] <martin1989> whats going on?
[00:42] <TJ-> jeff3: I told you that was likely because there was/is a custom "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" that was likely over-riding the monitor section. Best solution there would have been to simply move xorg.conf aside so the X server could get on with auto-detecting the devices.
[00:42] <tac_> What's the preferred way to add a directory to the root user's PATH?
[00:42] <jeff3> I did Ctrl-Alt-F1, and I get just a blinking cursor
[00:42] <TJ-> jeff3: You'll need to reboot into the Recovery option, and use the root shell to fix the nvidia driver issues you've now got
[00:42] <tac_> (the root user owns this directory already and everything inside, so it's safe to do)
[00:43] <source47> any ideas anyone here>
[00:43] <source47> ?
[00:43] <TJ-> tac_: Usually by an entry in the user's .bashrc of the form "PATH=${PATH}:/new/path/1:/new/path/2"
[00:44] <tac_> TJ-: but if it's root... he doesn't have a .bashrc
[00:44] <Guest91613> hi everybody, i have a short question for which i was unable to find the answer on the web yet... i missed the end-of-life of 12.10, so now i probably have to manually edit my repository list to be able to upgrade to the next release?
[00:44] <TJ-> source47: "404  Not Found" ... try "sudo apt-get update" to refresh the local package lists, then try installing again
[00:45] <TJ-> tac_: "sudo ls -a /root/.bashrc" => "/root/.bashrc"
[00:45] <source47> that worked TJ - thanks!
[00:45] <tac_> oh, it does exist
[00:45] <Guest91613> (also, what would be the correct repository urls for that?)
[00:46] <Guest25058> hello
[00:46] <Guest91613> hi :)
[00:46] <TJ-> Guest91613: old-releases.ubuntu.com
[00:46] <tac_> hmm
[00:46] <tac_> that isn't getting me what I want unfortunately :(
[00:47] <Guest91613> checking... ah that looks as if i can just change the hostname to old-releases and keep the rest of the repository url, thanks :)
[00:47] <Bra|nz> how do i reg my nick
[00:47] <tac_> I guess what I want to know is how to control the PATH when I use sudo
[00:47] <TJ-> Guest91613: "sudo sed -i 's,//.*archive\.,//old-releases.archive.,' /etc/apt/sources.list "
[00:47] <ubuntupc9> Bra|nz: use /msg nickserv help
[00:47] <Bra|nz> thnx
[00:47] <Guest91613> maybe a good idea to mention that on the help.ubuntu.com pages about upgrading :)
[00:48] <TJ-> tac_: "man sudoers"
[00:48] <arthurb> hello, anyone running inn2/nnrpd on ubuntu here?
[00:49] <Guest91613> well thanks TJ- and have a nice day everybody :) [me bookmarks old-releases.ubuntu.com]
[00:50] <Fevix> I TOLD you I'd be back in a bit if something went wrong.
[00:51] <Fevix> Boot disk still refuses to let me install to USB
[00:51] <Fevix> Both are plugged directly into the motherboard
[00:52] <LatteOfCode> I have a ubuntu laptop that makes a terrible high pitched tone from the main speakers when headphones are plugged in. This does not happen on Windows8, but does on ubuntu12.04,13.10,and14.04. I've asked on askubuntu and other places. Any ideas?
[00:53] <TJ-> Fevix: refuses to install to, or refuses to boot from?
[00:54] <Fevix> I can boot just fine into the Ubuntu install/try thing
[00:54] <Fevix> But it just refuses to notice it's an available drive for installing
[00:54] <TJ-> Fevix: OK ... you're trying to install to a second USB device?
[00:54] <Fevix> Yes
[00:55] <Fevix> This is the optimal solution to the problem at hand, as we're using that second USB drive as a temporary hard drive until we can completely replace that broken laptop with a desktop
[00:55] <Guest55688> Hi guys, I'm a game developer, I was wondering if running Unity 3d can be run under Ubuntu
[00:56] <Fevix> Currently, she's using a 4GB USB drive as a live boot disk, but she's been complaining about having to wait through that try/install screen every time
[00:57] <Fevix> so I now have a 32GB USB disk that I'm hoping to install Ubuntu onto as if it were a hard drive.... and this is where I'm hitting walls
[00:57] <TJ-> Fevix: 1) Does the installer list the 2nd USB device as a target? 2) In the "Try Ubuntu" desktop are you able to see the 2nd USB device in any way?
[00:58] <Fevix> 1) No. It only allows me to install to my computer's hard drive. 2) I haven't gone into it, but when I was looking through the "create/resize partitions" menu (From where it offers to install alongside Win7), I can see the USB disk
[00:58] <Fevix> "gone into it" meaning clicked Try rather than install
[01:00] <TJ-> Fevix: OK... I don't use the GUI installer very often but I seem to recall there is a way to alter the target device. Are you using "Guided partitioning" or "Manual"
[01:00] <Fevix> I have no clue
[01:00] <Fevix> How would I not use the GUI installer?
[01:00] <TJ-> Fevix: It is an option at the beginning of the installer
[01:00] <TJ-> Fevix: There are many ways of installing Ubuntu many of which don't assume there is a GUI available.
[01:00] <Fevix> ....
[01:01] <CraftThatBlock> I got it to boot! yay! :D
[01:01] <Fevix> Could I theoretically Try ubuntu with the boot disk, then dd the file from my Windows hard drive onto the USB stick?
[01:01] <TJ-> Fevix: Yes
[01:02] <Fevix> Awesome. I'll see if I can get in here using Mibbit or something from the boot disk's firefox so you can tell me how there. BRB
[01:06] <Beldar> TJ-, The something else is the manual option.
[01:07] <js1123> hello, i would like to know if it is harmfull to delete the unchecked ppa sources (often listed as source code) within the update-panel of system settings
[01:07] <TJ-> Beldar: I'm not sure Fevix is clear on what is going on. The installer 'refusing' sounds like it was refusing to install onto the same device it booted from
[01:08] <Beldar> TJ-, Yeah hard to say, heh.
[01:09] <Fevix> Okay
[01:10] <Fevix> I'm in the live boot disk. How do I dd the iso onto the target USB drive?
[01:11] <bluesnow> Hi, I'm getting an odd error when I try to install a program called evolus pencil
[01:11] <bluesnow> It says "trying to overwrite /usr/bin/pencil.." and then fails
[01:11] <Bashing-om> js1123: " delete the unchecked ppa sources " is confusing ?? what is your gend goal ? ( there is no harm and some benefits to disable 'src' code sources ).
[01:11] <TJ-> Fevix: "sudo dd if=/path/to/file.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1M" where 'sdX' is the device name of the target USB device
[01:11] <bluesnow> but when I go to /usr/bin, there's no "pencil" file or directory
[01:12] <bluesnow> any idea what's going on?
[01:12] <Beldar> bluesnow, This from the repos or a 3rd party?
[01:12] <CraftThatBlock> What are possible causes of it staying stuck at loading at the :Preparing to install ubuntu" screen where it askes to download updates and install 3rd party software?
[01:12] <bluesnow> Beldar: a third party .deb package
[01:12] <Beldar> bluesnow, Link?
[01:12] <Jamba> Hey guys I currently have Ubuntu installed on my computer, but I need to install Windows 7 as a dual boot, how can i do this without messing up grub? :/
[01:13] <bluesnow> I opened it up in Ubuntu Software Center, and it seems to install most of the way, and then crashes there. The link is http://pencil.evolus.vn/
[01:13] <Bashing-om> CraftThatBlock: No internet connection ??
[01:13] <bluesnow> (I've used it on Windows before, by the way.)
[01:13] <TJ-> bluesnow: badly written installer by the sound of it. Nothing in the standard Debian dpkg/apt scripts that I've ever seen reports "trying to overwrite..."
[01:13] <CraftThatBlock> Bashing-om: that setup is before hand, let me double check if ubuntu successfully connects
[01:14] <Beldar> Jamba, Only way is a virtual, however grub is an easy fix. Windows has to have the boot partition at the least in a primary and is best at the beginning of the HD.
[01:14] <CraftThatBlock> Bashing-om: I just retry the instalation software and it worked. magic I guess :)
[01:14] <bluesnow> TJ-: Ah, I see. Could someone else check if they're able to install it? It's at http://pencil.evolus.vn/
[01:15] <Bashing-om> CraftThatBlock: Great .. I generally do not check those boxes on an install. Will do those intalls as required after the install completes.
[01:15] <Jamba> Beldar: I can't do Virtual as the programs I need to run wont work properly under VMS, how to i insall Windows so it has the boot partition
[01:15] <Fevix> In Windows, the path to the .iso is c://users/Fevix/Desktop/Utilities/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso . Can you translate this to where it'll be when running Ubuntu?
[01:15] <CraftThatBlock> Bashing-om: It wasn't the boxed checked the problem, it just stayed stuck at the point for a reason
[01:15] <js1123> Bashing-om: hello, thanks. I would lile to know if the unchecked or unactivated codes in the list of system settings > software&updates >other software are crucial.
[01:16] <Fevix> Also I recall I need some terminal command to discover the name of the drive for use in dd, what's that command?
[01:16] <CraftThatBlock> time to rebuild my pc now lol
[01:16] <Beldar> Jamba, It makes one itself, can you give a screenshot of gparted looking at the HD?
[01:16] <Jamba> Beldar, I currently Only have linux installed but sure give me a second I will install gparted and screenshot
[01:17] <Bashing-om> js1123: They are the control mechanisims for what you want your operating system to access and controls what applications get installed onto your system.
[01:18] <CraftThatBlock> we need linux keyboards
[01:18] <js1123> so if i'm good with the currently running version and i'm up to date at this moment,  than i can safely remove the unchecked and unactivated  ppa/source code things. (what are they called?)
[01:19] <e1e> hello
[01:19] <Jamba> Beldar: Here you go friend http://oi58.tinypic.com/2mqksx2.jpg :)
[01:19] <CraftThatBlock> ummm my ubuntu doesn't detect windows in the installation
[01:19] <CraftThatBlock> it just shows "free space"
[01:20] <Beldar> js1123, PPA's mat have installed packages that could be an issue on a distro upgrade, more details needed.
[01:20] <jeff3> Ok so I managed to get my system back but now unity isn't running.  How can I get unity to run again?
[01:20] <CraftThatBlock> do I make a new partition at the end of the device?
[01:20] <ubuntupc9> CraftThatBlock: gparted
[01:21] <Beldar> Jamba, Could you backup what is on ubuntu and do a new install, as is it is sda1, which is where windows should be for easy access in case of isses?
[01:21] <Beldar> issues*
[01:21] <CraftThatBlock> ubuntupc9: I just looked it up the problem, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1705325 seems like fix
[01:22] <jeff3> Is there a way to completely reconfigure X?
[01:22] <cristianhg_> Where can I find a decent channel for PHP developers?
[01:22] <Bashing-om> js1123: see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories .. and if you are in reference to 'source code' if you are not compileing software you have no need to enable the 'src' fetches .
[01:22] <cristianhg_> Where can I find a decent channel for PHP developers?
[01:22] <Jamba> Beldar: Yeah, I just wanted to know if I could avoid that T.T, i guess not x3. Thanks anyways :). Could you explain to me the importance of having Windows a sda1
[01:22] <Beldar> Jamba, The issue with windows is a recovery disc would not see windows if after ubuntu.
[01:22] <rww> cristianhg_: identify to NickServ and /join ##php
[01:22] <rww> !register | cristianhg_
[01:23] <ubuntupc9> how strange CraftThatBlock I use gparted and never had trouble
[01:23] <Jamba> Beldar: I don't have any recovery disc though
[01:24] <Jamba> Beldar: Or does that also include system restore images as well?
[01:24] <cfhowlett> Jamba, first boot of windows recommends user immediately make a recovery disk - advice typically (foolishly) ignored
[01:24] <Beldar> Jamba, Or an install disc, you could install it but not repair it basically, it just makes the whole thing more difficult and in the geek area of knowledge is all.
[01:25] <ubuntupc9> shoot time to go, food time
[01:25] <alfonsojon> Hello :)
[01:25] <myraft> Hi, I using 14.04 and am stuck on the login screen. They keyboard and mouse are not responding. I can ssh to the problem machine from another machine. Any help would be appreciated.
[01:25] <CraftThatBlock> ubuntupc9: how can I use that?
[01:25] <Jamba> Thanks friends! I appreciate the advice and help :)
[01:25] <Jamba> Have a nice day ^.^
[01:25] <CraftThatBlock> because fixparts' install is durping
[01:25] <alfonsojon> myraft: What graphics card do you have?
[01:25] <CraftThatBlock> and I don't want to do more debugging today
[01:25] <myraft> nvidia
[01:25] <alfonsojon> myraft: Do you know the specific model?
[01:25] <myraft> I am not sure how to find out
[01:26] <alfonsojon> If you don't know, SSH into the machine and type this command
[01:26] <alfonsojon> lspci | grep vga
[01:26] <alfonsojon> then paste the output here
[01:26] <myraft> @alfonsojon: no output
[01:26] <myraft> @alfonsojon: no output
[01:27] <alfonsojon> myraft: Huh. Try lspci | grep VGA
[01:27] <alfonsojon> I think it's case sensitive.
[01:27] <rww> it is, unless you do grep -i
[01:27] <myraft> @alfonsojon: here is the output :
[01:27] <myraft>  lspci | grep VGA
[01:27] <myraft> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[01:28] <alfonsojon> myraft: Ah. Do you use a laptop that has hybrid graphics?
[01:28] <myraft> I have several update, purge and install nvidia based on researching the web
[01:28] <alfonsojon> myraft: Pardon?
[01:29] <myraft> I am using a desktop with dual monitors. Was working till yesterday. But you are right, when it boots up, it shows a HUGE resolution
[01:29] <cfhowlett> !info AccountService > cfhowlett
[01:29] <alfonsojon> myraft: It seems you're using onboard graphics and not your Nvidia graphics
[01:29] <keola> Hey, do you guys have a way of moving drivers from one distro to the other on the same machine?
[01:29] <keola> I'm pretty new to linux ;c
[01:29] <myraft> alfonsojon:  what do I do?
[01:30] <alfonsojon> myraft: Are you 100% sure that you have an Nvidia card? It appears you're using Intel integrated graphics.
[01:30] <svetlana> keola, 'download them again from the hardware website' maybe
[01:30] <svetlana> as i feel it's not packaged properly, so getting it out of an existing package is, i think, harder than from their website directly
[01:30] <myraft> alfonsojon: I am not sure at all. Frankly I don't know how to tell
[01:31] <alfonsojon> myraft: That's okay, based on that command, it looks like you have Intel integrated graphics.
[01:31] <alfonsojon> Start by removing your Nvidia drivers like so: "sudo apt-get purge nvidia-3*
[01:31] <alfonsojon> Without the quotes
[01:31] <alfonsojon> That will remove any Nvidia drivers you have installed
[01:31] <myraft> alfonsojon:  sure,
[01:31] <alfonsojon> myraft: Before you confirm, paste the output in a pastebin.
[01:32] <myraft> alfonsojon:  embarrasing question , how do paste to pastebin
[01:33] <myraft> ?
[01:33] <alfonsojon> It's fine, everyone starts somewhere :)
[01:33] <cfhowlett> !paste |myraft,
[01:33] <alfonsojon> You just need to visit a pastebin website (I use hastebin.com) and copy-paste the text from the terminal to the paste bin.
[01:33] <alfonsojon> cfhowlett: didn't know !paste existed, I'll keep that command in mind
[01:33] <deezNutsBlue> Hey people need some help.
[01:34] <alfonsojon> cfhowlett: Thanks
[01:34] <cfhowlett> alfonsojon, happy2help
[01:34] <deezNutsBlue> My wifi is messed up.
[01:34] <deezNutsBlue> I tried to
[01:34] <Beldar> !details | deezNutsBlue all in one post
[01:34] <myraft> thanks both: here it is : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8058881/
[01:34] <cfhowlett> alfonsojon, for future reference:  http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu&search=&order=name%20ASC&page=0
[01:35] <alfonsojon> cfhowlett: you are a saint
[01:35] <cfhowlett> :)
[01:35] <alfonsojon> Okay, myraft, hit "Y" and enter
[01:36] <alfonsojon> Then run "sudo apt-get autoremove --purge"
[01:36] <deezNutsBlue> I just installed ubuntu onto my laptop. For a while the wifi was working but now it does not even show the networks. If i wish to use the internet I have to use my ethernet.
[01:36] <alfonsojon> Once that all finishes, restart and see if that fixes your problem.
[01:36] <alfonsojon> deezNutsBlue: Did you run an upgrade before your wifi broke or is it random?
[01:36] <myraft> alfonsojon:  doing so. Will update when done.
[01:36] <myraft> alfonsojon: done.
[01:36] <alfonsojon> myraft: Also a good idea.
[01:37] <deezNutsBlue> Well the wifi stopped working
[01:37] <alfonsojon> myraft: Good luck.
[01:37] <deezNutsBlue> then i updated
[01:37] <deezNutsBlue> then it started working again.
[01:37] <deezNutsBlue> now it stopped again.
[01:38] <myraft> alfonsojon:  should I restart "sudo shutdown -r now" ?
[01:38] <alfonsojon> myraft: Oh right, you can't access the system through the GUI. That should work, yes. You can also do "sudo reboot", quicker to type :)
[01:39] <myraft> alfonsojon:  I think you are on the right trail. Basically, the splash screen when it boots looks like a lower resolution. But at the login window, no keyboard or mouse response
[01:40] <alfonsojon> myraft: So system is basically inaccessible. Once it reboots, let me know.
[01:40] <deezNutsBlue> Does anyone have some advice for me?
[01:40] <alfonsojon> deezNutsBlue: !wifi
[01:40] <alfonsojon> !wifi
[01:40] <deezNutsBlue> ok thank you.
[01:40] <alfonsojon> See that, and see if it helps resolve your problem.
[01:40] <myraft> alfonsojon: it finished reboot. Same status. Big resolution. No response from keyboard or mouse.
[01:40] <alfonsojon> myraft: Hmm...
[01:41] <myraft> both keyboard are mouse are USB.
[01:41] <myraft> lsusb shows that they are there.
[01:42] <alfonsojon> myraft: Hm, do you know if /etc/X111/xorg.conf exists?
[01:42] <alfonsojon> It should not exist by default, and it may be causing conflicts.
[01:42] <Dasm_> What's the mod key in ubuntu? I would use <alt> in windows, but it's not working for me
[01:43] <nattikorn> Hi
[01:43] <myraft> no it does not -here is the paste http://paste.ubuntu.com/8058925/. Shows X11
[01:44] <jeff3> Thank you for your help, everyone
[01:45] <myraft> alfonsojon:  I see X11, but not X111 in etc directory
[01:46] <alfonsojon> myraft: Alright, hang on, I need to look into this
[01:46] <keola> So if I wanted to run two different distros on the same machine, would it be possible to be prompted with a password on boot, where a certain password would lead to say Ubuntu and another password would lead to Xubuntu?
[01:47] <myraft> 10-4
[01:47] <alfonsojon> myraft: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[01:47] <Beldar> keola, If those are not encrypted a live will access both anyway.
[01:47] <alfonsojon> myraft: Let me know if that installs, it should already be installed.
[01:47] <cfhowlett> keola, OR you install ONE distro with 2 or more desktop environments:  sudo apt-get install lxde xfce4 kkde
[01:47] <alfonsojon> If not, that may be your problem.
[01:48] <nattikorn> what is chang language in ubuntu from china is Eng
[01:48] <Beldar> nattikorn, What?
[01:48] <cfhowlett> keola, logout, choose lubunut/lxde or xubuntu/xfce4 or kubuntu/kde
[01:48] <cfhowlett> !cn | nattikorn,
[01:48] <myraft> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[01:48] <keola> Okay. I'l try, I'm rather new to linux
[01:49] <redjr> hello guys
[01:49] <redjr> quem pode me ajudar com um problema
[01:49] <antonio__> i need help
[01:49] <cfhowlett> keola, easy one: open a terminal.  sudo apt-get install xfce4
[01:49] <redjr> ?
[01:49] <cfhowlett> !ask | antonio__
[01:49] <cfhowlett> !es | redjr,
[01:49] <keola> Will this select my distro based on a password?
[01:49] <redjr> thank you and I sorry
[01:50] <cfhowlett> keola, no, but it will effectively give you multi-distro look and feel
[01:50] <Beldar> keola, That does not make sense.
[01:50] <OerHeks> keola, no, you can choose in the grub bootloader
[01:50] <deezNutsBlue> This is so confusing
[01:50] <deezNutsBlue> All I want to do is get wifi lol
[01:51] <alfonsojon> cfhowlett: That's portuguese, not spanish
[01:51] <myraft> alfonsojon:  nothing new to install. Should i try boot-repair iso ?
[01:51] <Beldar> deezNutsBlue, Try an earlier kernel in the grub menu.
[01:51] <cfhowlett> alfonsojon, doh!
[01:51] <alfonsojon> !pt
[01:51] <alfonsojon> ah
[01:51] <alfonsojon>  to see the difference:
[01:51] <alfonsojon> !es
[01:51] <alfonsojon> !pt
[01:52] <alfonsojon> oh wait, they're not the same
[01:52] <alfonsojon> thought they'd be the same message in portuguese and spanish, but meh
[01:52] <x_root> alfonsojon, what?
[01:52] <Beldar> deezNutsBlue, My guess since we just had a kernel upgrade that is athe issue.
[01:52] <alfonsojon> x_root: Nothing important
[01:52] <alfonsojon> myraft: I'm not sure, have you tried booting into recovery mode and resetting x to defaults?
[01:53] <x_root> no... spanish and portuguese is two different languages.. they are.. different.. like..
[01:53] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  how would I do that ?
[01:53] <keola> Also my issue with going to hunt for drivers online is that they're nly provided for windows
[01:53] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  meaning, how do I boot into recovery mode and reset X?
[01:53] <alfonsojon> myraft: Reboot the computer and hold shift to make GRUB come up.
[01:53] <Beldar> keola, drivers for what?
[01:54] <myraft>  alfonsojon: doing.
[01:54] <alfonsojon> myraft: It will bring up a text-based UI where you can start X in safe mode and reset the default configuration.
[01:54] <keola> My network card on a Pavilion G7
[01:54] <alfonsojon> myraft: You can also access a root shell.
[01:54] <x_root> alfonsojon, olá, como vai? (pt) ¿hola, que tal? (es) the same to hey, what's up?
[01:54] <Beldar> keola, What is the actual hardware look in lspci run in the terminal.
[01:54] <x_root> or.. something like that.. lol
[01:55] <alfonsojon> x_root: close enough
[01:55] <cfhowlett> x_root, that would be --- Santana?  Oye como va?
[01:55] <alfonsojon> I speak enough Spanish to understand a good deal of Portuguese, but I'm not close to fluent in either
[01:55] <Beldar> keola, Note when we talk to each other we preface with the others nick.
[01:55] <alfonsojon> Como va = what is going on
[01:55] <x_root> alfonsojon, they are enough similar.. but not the same..
[01:55] <myraft>  alfonsojon: held the shift button. Booted right into the frozen login screen.
[01:56] <x_root> is just that.. :D
[01:56] <alfonsojon> myraft: Huh... What system is this on?
[01:56] <alfonsojon> Are you using a Mac?
[01:56] <x_root> well, anyway.. both languages are awesome (e sem problemas :D)
[01:56] <alfonsojon> there are ____ problems
[01:56] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  it is ubuntu 14.04
[01:56] <alfonsojon> what is sem?
[01:56] <x_root> cfhowlett, didn't understood =/.. lol
[01:56] <x_root> alfonsojon, no problems :)
[01:56] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  no other OS installed.
[01:56] <alfonsojon> Ah
[01:57] <alfonsojon> myraft: I mean are you using a Mac or PC?
[01:57] <et_> hello i just installed enemy terriory on ubuntu 14.04 using playdeb... i have no sound again when usualy playdeb works.. i am using 64 bit.. any advice?
[01:57] <myraft> PC
[01:57] <alfonsojon> Alright.
[01:57] <alfonsojon> You need to hold shift before Ubuntu starts up
[01:57] <alfonsojon> When you first turn on the PC, hold shift
[01:57] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  let me try again. I did that.
[01:57] <alfonsojon> until you get the menu
[01:57] <alfonsojon>  myraft If it doesn't come up, then I'm not sure what else to try.
[01:58] <x_root> and. since here is an ubuntu channel.. no one know how to enable 3/4 fingers support on ubuntu 14.04?
[01:58] <x_root> or, if this is possible (tried on ubuntu-phone since, maybe, it could have something to multi touch related.. but.. no.. =/)
[01:58] <alfonsojon> x_root: It's not really related... however, I think it depends on the driver
[01:58] <cfhowlett> !touch | x_root,
[01:59] <x_root> is on touchpad.. still the same cfhowlett?
[01:59] <cfhowlett> x_root, probably not.  phone is phone, computer is not phone ...
[01:59] <alfonsojon>  myraft I cannot make any gurantees, but this worked for someone: sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[01:59] <x_root> =/
[01:59] <jacmu> olà, someone can help me for solving gtk murrine bug in opencpn-3.2.2  ?
[02:00] <alfonsojon> I assume mesa-utils will pull in some missing dependencies.
[02:00] <pusicanu> sydney
[02:00] <x_root> so.. i give up (for today).. maybe in ubuntu 14.10 will be possible on the fly..
[02:00] <sydney> pusicanu: yes?
[02:00] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  after power down from the source, got GRUB menu
[02:00] <x_root> (on the fly is right? lol) well, gtg.. thanks cfhowlett and alfonsojon.. até o/
[02:00] <sydney> pusicanu: NO I DONT LIVE IN SYDNEY :P
[02:01] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  should I go with one of the older recovery mode , this is encourging.
[02:01] <jacmu> … on ubuntu 12.04 Precise LTS
[02:01] <alfonsojon> x_root: See you, hopefully things work out.
[02:01] <keola> Beldar I looked up the exact name of the card, but I can't really find a driver to install, or at least in a way I can understand
[02:01] <alfonsojon> myraft: Go for it, but they should be functionally identical.
[02:01] <Beldar> keola, Did you run lslci in the terminal and see it?
[02:01] <Beldar> lspci* keola
[02:01] <keola> Yes I did beldar
[02:02] <Beldar> keola, Why are you not posting it?
[02:02] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  I am getting better resolution splash screen.
[02:02] <myraft> this is exciting.
[02:02] <alfonsojon> myraft: That's good
[02:03] <keola> Beldar, sorry, I guess I hadn't realized I needed to. It's a Qualcomm Atheros QCA9565
[02:03] <alfonsojon> myraft: For more info, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[02:04] <myraft>  alfonsojon: ok tried to login with my userid , loops back to login screen. Logged in with a "hadoop" userid I had created, got a screen. So there is two problems.
[02:04] <alfonsojon> myraft: It seems you're running on vesa graphics (unaccelerated fallback), try rebooting into recovery mode and reset X to defaults.
[02:04] <alfonsojon> Once you have done that, reboot normally and try again
[02:04] <charco> Hey, I'm using ubuntu gnome lts, but I am having a horrible bug and nobody answers in #ubuntu-gnome and I want to report it so it can get fixed. Any idea how can I report the bug? (The brightness just doesn't work)
[02:05] <reisio> charco: how are you attempting to have it work?
[02:05] <cfhowlett> !bug | charco
[02:05] <Beldar> keola, coupe of pages of links to look through. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=QCA9565
[02:05] <Beldar> couple*
[02:06] <charco> reisio, it was working yesterday before an update. I am talking about using the brightness command from the panel, or the xbacklight terminal command, none of the work. I have to manually echo things into /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight
[02:06] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  I am in with the hadoop userid. When i try to login with my regular userid, loops back to the login screen. What should I do reset X to defaults ? I have made G_d knows, how many changes based on google searches.
[02:07] <alfonsojon> myraft: Ehhh that may not be a good thing. Is reinstalling an option?
[02:07] <alfonsojon> myraft: That's usually the easiest way to fix a problem
[02:07] <alfonsojon> if it's major
[02:07] <charco> cfhowlett, hwo do I find the package that was wroken?
[02:08] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  I think you are right. Let me back up the data I want to keep and see the re-install option
[02:08] <alfonsojon> myraft: You can also delete every folder except for /home and manually partition, but that's a bit complicated.
[02:09] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  yeap rebooting, back to the same problem.
[02:09] <cfhowlett> charco, IDK
[02:10] <alfonsojon>  myraft: For future reference, it's a good idea to keep what you did as a reference so you can revert it in the event it does not work or makes things worse.
[02:10] <myraft> back up data and off to re-install I guess. Was not looking forward to that ....
[02:10] <charco> cfhowlett, I got the list of the latests updates packages from /var/log/apt/history
[02:12] <cfhowlett> charco, I understood you pinpointed the backlight package?
[02:14] <charco> cfhowlett, none of the "user" ways to change the brightness work, not even the xbacklight command, but I don't think it is a xbacklight problem.
[02:15] <cfhowlett> charco, I don't know what to tell you.  That could be an actual BUG - or it could be a user setting needing attention.  I'm on xubuntu - different settings.
[02:15] <charco> :( sorry for being annoying, I want to report it but I don't even know which package is the wrong one.
[02:16] <cfhowlett> charco, not annoying.  ask again in channel.  someone will know
[02:18] <e1e> hello
[02:19] <reisio> heya e1e
[02:20] <e1e> hey reisio
[02:20] <svetlana> hi
[02:20] <e1e> hi svetlana
[02:21] <cfhowlett> e1e, ask your ubuntu support question
[02:21] <reisio> hi svetlana
[02:22] <et_> hello i just installed enemy terriory on ubuntu 14.04 using playdeb... i have no sound again when usualy playdeb works.. i am using 64 bit.. any advice?
[02:22] <e1e> how can i rename multiple files, removing the first part of the file name but keeping the rest
[02:22] <reisio> e1e: for example?
[02:22] <e1e> eg (01) album_artist_trackname.mp3 (02)album_artist_trackname.mp3 etc
[02:23] <e1e> keeping trackname of each track and removing the first bits
[02:23] <reisio> e1e: which bits?
[02:23] <myraft>  alfonsojon:  thanks for the help. I did not know / find the shift key to get the grub menu. At least getting into the machine with another user, hopefully should
[02:23] <svetlana> e1e: use mmv
[02:23] <svetlana> e1e: example: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/6911301/rename-multiple-files-shell
[02:23] <svetlana> e1e: its manpage has more example
[02:23] <CraftThatBlock> IT WORKS
[02:23] <svetlana> GOOD! :)
[02:23] <CraftThatBlock> So many problems i ran into
[02:24] <CraftThatBlock> finally started installation :D
[02:24] <CraftThatBlock> really freaking happy right now lol
[02:24] <CraftThatBlock> and my beagel is ready
[02:24] <e1e> ok i'll check out mmv
[02:24] <e1e> thanks :)
[02:24] <svetlana> good luck
[02:24]  * cfhowlett ... beagel???
[02:26] <charco> This guy had the same problem a year ago: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2128313 but nobody could help him
[02:27] <cfhowlett> charco, did he file a !bug?   if so, check the status
[02:28] <charco> No, he didn't :( he just stopped answering in the forum
[02:28] <charco> it is weird! because it was working yesteday :/
[02:35] <redGod> i need some help getting a usb to ethernet device working and I havent found anything when I google for it
[02:50] <myraft> .
[02:50] <myraft> ..
[02:51] <Basketball> how can i decrees indent of bullet points the decrees indent button is greyed out P.S. it is in a table in libre writer
[02:55] <et_> for anyone concerned this works for me
[02:56] <et_> but i just tried it and sound is a bit choppy
[02:56] <et_> but still has sound wo0t
[02:56] <et_> http://www.gonzodark.com/2014/05/wolfenstein-et-on-ubuntu-1404.html
[02:57] <sanfen> hello anybody home
[02:57] <et_> im here
[02:57] <et_> whats going on?
[02:59] <sanfen> why my sentence is cut off on showing
[03:00] <sanfen> what I've seen is "why my sentence is cut off on sho"
[03:01] <et_> hmmm
[03:01] <et_> what os and irc client?
[03:03] <sanfen> linuxmint  XChat
[03:10] <LostNva> Off the wall question, if another distro is based on Ubuntu, why wouldn't it be supported here?
[03:11] <TJ-> LostNva: Because it may/will have changes that mean it behaves/is configured differently, and obviously, because it *isn't* Ubuntu
[03:14] <LostNva> TJ: ok i get that. I'm not pro at Linux. It seems some common problems like apt etc are very similar. I do understand the mess though it could cause.
[03:14] <Snake2k> Hello every, I keep getting "E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:14] <Snake2k> for a package I'm installing :|
[03:15] <Snake2k> More like apt-get -f install
[03:15] <Snake2k> package: "libc6-dev-i386
[03:16] <TJ-> LostNva: You may as well ask why Debian doesn't support Ubuntu, that's what Ubuntu is based on. But Ubuntu has a lot of differences both in the packages and the way systems are built and configured and operated
[03:17] <LostNva> TJ: Yeah Iv'e learned those lessons recently by adding repositories from other distros, and forgetting to remove them later.
[03:18] <Matthew_Moore> hey guys.  i have two computers. i want to know if there is an easy way to transfer all my programs and settings from one Ubuntu machine to another.  Or do i have to just manually install everything twice??
[03:18] <coi> irc eh foda demais
[03:18] <coi> que irado
[03:18] <coi> a galera ainda ta aqui
[03:19] <coi> nossa anos depois
[03:19] <coi> o chat ubuntu
[03:19] <coi> td aqui
[03:19] <unopaste> coi you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[03:20] <Snake2k> Hey can anyone help me with a package overwrite problem?
[03:21] <sydney> Snake2k: just ask. ;)
[03:21] <TJ-> Matthew_Moore: You can use the "debfoster" tool to make a list of the top-level packages that are installed, and use that list to reinstall those same packages on the other installation. Debfoster is better than "dpk --get-selections" because it maintains the relationships between manual and auto-installed packages
[03:22] <Snake2k> sydney: Hey, I'm tryin to install libc6-dev-i386, but dpkg says "trying to overwrite '/usr/include/fpu_control.h'
[03:22] <Snake2k> sydney: That's because I have libc6-dev-amd64 as well
[03:22] <TJ-> Matthew_Moore: For user-specific settings, you should be able to simply clone the user's home directory "/home/$USER/" to the other installation
[03:22] <sydney> Snake2k: then why are you installing the i386 package?
[03:22] <Snake2k> sydney: When I try to remove libc6-dev-amd64, It just gives me a "apt-get -f install" excuse lol
[03:22] <Snake2k> sydney: to build something :|
[03:22] <TJ-> Snake2k: You can't install both architecture's -dev packages because they have conflicting files
[03:22] <Snake2k> sydney: And for gcc-4.8-multilib
[03:23] <TJ-> Snake2k: If you're trying to build a 32-bit binary on a 64-bit system that requires the 32-bit libc -dev, use a 32-bit chroot
[03:23] <Snake2k> TJ-: I see, I tried removing gcc-4.8-multilib but it won't let me, I can post some output if anyone wants me to
[03:23] <Matthew_Moore> TJ-: yeah i figure the settings would be easy.  on Arch i can use pacmanxg to create an install script of all my exsistang software.  i was hoping for something similar in ubuntu. But i'll have a look  at debfoster. thanks.
[03:24] <sydney> Snake2k: did you try ' sudo apt-get remove libc6-dev-amd64' ?
[03:24] <Snake2k> TJ-: Hmmmm I see, thanks! But how do I clean this up now? :|
[03:24] <Snake2k> sydney: Yep, won't let me
[03:24] <Snake2k> sydney: It says gcc-4.8-multilib and libc6-dev-x32 have unmet dependencies
[03:24] <Snake2k> sydney: I guess libc6-dev-x32 follows through the multilib package
[03:24] <TJ-> Matthew_Moore: "debfoster -q --show-keepers" should do it
[03:25] <sydney> Snake2k: ok,then i dont know how to help ;)
[03:25] <The_Woodsman> i'm trying to run a plex media server on my ubuntu machine, and when i want it to find the folder containing my music files, it won't find it. my understanding is that i need to add plex to my user group so that it has all the necessary permissions. so my question is, how do i add a program to my user group so it has my same permissions?
[03:25] <TJ-> Snake2k: use 'dpkg' directly to remove the offending 32-bit package that is partially installed, then fix things up with "apt-get -f install"
[03:25] <Matthew_Moore> TJ-: ok i'll give it a try.
[03:25] <Snake2k> TJ-: Alright, trying that out, thanks!
[03:28] <Snake2k> TJ-: I found the problem, gcc-multilib was holding them all there lol, removed the 32-bit packages, error's gone :D now I'll figure out how to build that thing in a better way lol thanks everyone!
[03:35]  * sydney and everyone says *No Problem*
[03:35] <sydney> :P
[03:42] <adante> hey guys, can someone exlpain why aptitude wants to remove all these packages but apt-get does not? http://pastebin.com/h7TEf0qp
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> !aptitude | adante
[03:46] <adante> lotuspsychje: ahh thankyou
[03:49] <hylian> hello all
[03:53] <istvanchung> Has anyone else run into an issue with gnome-flashback+metacity, such that when a window is maximized, there's a 1-pixel column of white down the left side?
[03:53] <Akiva-Thinkpad> what process is my webcame under?
[03:53] <Akiva-Thinkpad> webcam
[03:53] <Akiva-Thinkpad> its on because cheese crashed
[03:53] <Akiva-Thinkpad> and it won't let me launch again
[03:53] <Akiva-Thinkpad> and I see the green light that indicates the webcam is still on
[03:57] <reborn> Help me able to understand, why ubuntu always default on X.org x server-recommended  than fglrx?
[03:59] <alfonsojon> istvanchung: I have that problem, it's especially noticeable in Firefox.
[03:59] <istvanchung> alfonsojon: In firefox? I barely notice it at all since firefox has a white background.  I notice it most in gnome-terminal (since that has a dark background)
[04:00] <alfonsojon> istvanchung: When using light-themes, it's more noticable.
[04:00] <alfonsojon> ambiance is a dark theme, so the white bari s a lot more noticable
[04:00] <alfonsojon> white bar is * ; bar is a*
[04:00] <istvanchung> alfonsojon: Oh, I see.
[04:00] <alfonsojon> istvanchung: I take it you are using Ubuntu GNOME?
[04:01] <istvanchung> alfonsojon: GNOME Flashback with Metacity.
[04:01] <alfonsojon> Ah.
[04:01] <alfonsojon> I run that on my Power Mac G4, since compiz doesn't work in 12.04 and beyond.
[04:03] <istvanchung> alfonsojon: Right.  I only noticed this problem after I upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04- what about you?
[04:03] <alfonsojon> istvanchung: Yep, doesn't happen on 12.04 or 10.04 for me, only 14.04.
[04:03] <alfonsojon> That is, when 14.04 actually boots (it really does not like my Mac :( )
[04:06] <pcfamily> hello
[04:09] <istvanchung> alfonsojon: I've filed a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/1357634
[04:14] <adi_> hello
[04:14] <adi_> how to use this IRC
[04:14] <adi_> #ubuntu
[04:14] <adi_> -_-
[04:15] <adi_> #adi
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> !irc
[04:20] <istvanchung> lotuspychje: "adi_ has quit (Client Quit)"  <-- too late :(
[04:23] <bluezone> Does anyone know how to feed the audio output into the audio input? (Same effect as holding a microphone up against the speakers)
[04:27] <popl> bluezone: conceptually that's not even the same thing
[04:27] <popl> bluezone: what are you trying to do?
[04:28] <bluezone> popl, whatever sound is coming from the speakers i want to trick the computer into thinking it's coming from the microphone
[04:29] <qtrain> Hello.  I am trying to find .Rprofile file for R.  From the directions I have it should be located in ~/.Rprofile which is in my home directory from what I understand.  when i cd ~/.Rprofile - no such file or directory
[04:29] <bluezone> feeding the audio output into the audio input
[04:29] <qtrain> even if I try cd / first
[04:29] <qtrain> any help?
[04:31] <wheatthin> qtrain, that'll make a loop wouldn' tit?
[04:31] <wheatthin> err bluezon
[04:31] <wheatthin> sorry
[04:31] <wheatthin> wouldn't it*
[04:32] <bluezone> naw, whatever the microphone is receiving is not getting played back on my computer
[04:33] <ubuntuser13> how to remove llvmpipe 3.4,128bits and use cedar on gallium 0.4 AMD?
[04:33] <qtrain> better yet.  Where exactly are my programming languages installed. Java, Node etc.  Do they all commonly reside in one directory?
[04:33] <wheatthin> bluezone, how can you tell? lol.. do you have it piping to somewhere?
[04:33] <qtrain> help would be greatly appreciated and I have fake not real fake sudo internet points
[04:34] <K`zan> Hi Folks, just installed v14 and ma trying to find out how to get multiple virtual desktops.  Looking and googling are no help :-).  Thoughts appreciated (gnome).
[04:35] <wheatthin> bluezone, It would cause feedback unless you have a secondary soundcard in which isn't picking up the loop
[04:35] <K`zan> Virtual desktops in a new v14 install, how?
[04:35] <popl> and that's my time
[04:35] <K`zan> Virtual desktops in a new v14 gnome install, how?
[04:36] <wheatthin> K`zan, I dunno.. explain virtual desktops.
[04:36] <chriys> hey guys I know this might not be the best channel to ask this question, but I hope some of you can give good hints. I want to setup a streaming solution to stream our live events. I tried Kaltura and Red5 and for some reason I never been able to make them work together. Do you have any suggestion for this sake?
[04:37] <wheatthin> K`zan, Do you mean virtualmachine?  If so, I'd suggest virtualbox, or vmware-workstation if you wanna buy it.
[04:37] <K`zan> wheatthin: Nothing new, different desktops ine can use rather than cramming too many apps in/on one desktop screen.
[04:37] <wheatthin> chriys, have you tried vlc?
[04:38] <wheatthin> K`zan, and which release of ubunt are you using?
[04:38] <K`zan> wheatthin: No not VMs
[04:38] <wheatthin> ubuntu, kubuntu,
[04:38] <K`zan> wheatthin: 14.04
[04:38] <K`zan> gnome
[04:38] <kostkon> K`zan, option is in appearance settings
[04:38] <wheatthin> 14.04 comes in different flavors.. k..
[04:38] <chriys> wheatthin: nope will it be able to handle around 500 connections and give me all the analytic
[04:38] <bluezone> wheatthin, i think you may be overthinking this, if i have music playing and i make it such that it is both playing on my speaker and being fowarded to the microphone there will not be a loop, the microphone doesn't play the music and the music is only played by the speakers
[04:39] <wheatthin> well gnome, should already have multiple desktops
[04:39] <K`zan> Didn't see anything in appearance, will check again.
[04:39] <wheatthin> bluezone, It'll cause feedback, just like if you put the mic too close to the speakers.
[04:39] <chriys> wheatthin: also does it support Mobiles (Android, Iphone) ?
[04:40] <bluezone> i guess i'm not seeing what you are saying
[04:40] <K`zan> wheatthin: Not that I can find, seem to have one desktop, no idea how to switch as I see nothing that would indicate different desktops (kde  has a pager you can click to get to different desktops).
[04:40] <wheatthin> chriys, I use an android phone for a security camera, and it runs via ip/port and I set vlc to record
[04:40] <K`zan> brb
[04:40] <wheatthin> chriys, so yes, it could.. depending on what you're using to record with.
[04:40] <bluezone> if the sound output is both sound output and sound input, it doesn't mean the sound input is going to be heard by anyone necessarily
[04:41] <wheatthin> K`zan, If using gnome-shell, you'll move your mouse to the left corner until it triggers, and shows the desktop and the virtual ones on the right
[04:42] <K`zan> wheatthin: Will try that.  Nothing in appearance though.
[04:43] <K`zan> wheatthin: Thanks!
[04:43] <wheatthin> K`zan, I'll take a screenshot of mine real quick.
[04:44] <qtrain> wheatthin: found it
[04:44] <qtrain> err nobody I meant nobody
[04:44] <qtrain> no noobs allowed!
[04:44] <chriys> wheatthin: I got 3 cameras connected on a blackmagic TVS and it send the signal out in H.264 1080i
[04:46] <Anastasia> wheatthin: k`zan on the gnome box.  Moving mouse cursor does nothing on left or any other side :-(?
[04:46] <wheatthin> http://imagebin.org/317639   ahh.. I wasn't aware they put out gnome-classic as default
[04:46] <wheatthin> I thought it was gnome-shell, which does
[04:47] <panahi> How Can I execute "logout" in a script file.
[04:48] <panahi> I get "logout: not found"  !:-(
[04:49] <Anastasia> wheatthin: According to help there should be a workspace switcher near the bottom, nope.  I must have a bad install...
[04:50] <wheatthin> panahi, logout totally? all users? :) can always restart the desktop manager :)
[04:50] <panahi> I want to logout after my application closed. I call my application in a script and after that I call "logout"
[04:51] <panahi> after my application is closed. logout dose not run.!
[04:51] <panahi> wheatthin: :my application is run on text mode and no user is logged in.
[04:52] <panahi> wheatthin: I set auto root login in tty1.conf
[04:52] <panahi> wheatthin: and in .bashrc I run my application
[04:53] <wheatthin> panahi, ahh dangerous..
[04:53] <wheatthin> proceed at your own risk
[04:54] <Anastasia> wheatthin: Must have a hosed install, no pagers or workspace switchers where the docs say I should find on.  Out with the install disk again :-).  Thanks for the help!
[04:55] <panahi> wheatthin: I want if my application is closed then the logout is execute and then by respawn in tty1.conf, autologin and my application restart again.
[05:02] <ahmadgbg> Hi, is it possible to change an existing user's home dir to and existing dir?
[05:03] <reborn> anyone can recommender for a beginner to be a development?
[05:04] <hualet_deepin> ahmadgbg: perhaps usermod can do that for you
[05:04] <eeee> ahmadgbg: sudo usermod -d /path/to/new/home -m *username*
[05:06] <holy_moses> hello, I'm having some home NAS ssh trouble on osx 10.8. I'm successfully connecting from my mac mini to my macbook and successful connecting from both to my raspberry pi NAS BUT i am unable to connect to my mac mini from my macbook. Is this the right irc channel to raise this concern? Thank you
[05:07] <ahmadgbg> eeee, thanks
[05:07] <eeee> np
[05:09] <panahi> hi
[05:10] <holy_moses> panahi: hi
[05:10] <panahi> who can I execute logout command in an bash scrite file?
[05:10] <panahi> who can I execute logout command in script file?
[05:11] <holy_moses> panahi: I don't know sorry. probably shouldn't have said hi. Hopefully someone else can be more useful. good luck bye bye
[05:12] <hualet_deepin> panahi: there's a command called gnome-sesion-quit, perhaps that's what you want?
[05:12] <hualet_deepin> sorry, session
[05:12] <panahi> hualet_deepin: I'm working in text mode. no gnome is installed.
[05:14] <hualet_deepin> panahi: i don't know then, and don't know there's logout concept while you are in text mode, maybe exit?
[05:15] <Beldar> panahi, You might check #bash
[05:20] <panahi> Beldar: hualet_deepin:pkill login do that.:-D
[05:34] <e1e> anyone there?
[05:35] <e1e> hi v2zz
[05:50] <snake_> hello
[06:08] <adante> hi, i've reorganised my disks and my system no longer boots with a grub error 17, how can i go about diagnosing this
[06:14] <Beldar> adante, This a raid or just regular HD's you have changed around?
[06:15] <adante> Beldar: regular hdd's - just enabled AHCI mode (previously was in ide)
[06:15] <adante> Beldar: (sorry for not responding to previous comment re aptitude/apt-get the other day - I went AFK - but that is sorted now)
[06:16] <PolishPickers> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbIHWoJhIII
[06:17] <Beldar> adante, I'm not up on whether this is a problem with an mbr being read or the OS with linux.
[06:19] <PolishPickers> check the video out takes step by step
[06:19] <Beldar> PolishPickers, Use nicks and be sure what you suggest is relevant, we don't just post a video.
[06:20] <PolishPickers> ok np Boot Fix - GRUB Error Solution - Linux Ubuntu
[06:21] <adante> Beldar: what do you mean with the OS with linux?
[06:21] <ubuntuRVK> IFEELSTUPID
[06:21] <adante> Beldar: i thought the mbr is being read as it is booting grub - but I am not extremely familiar with the boot process
[06:22] <PolishPickers> lol ubuntuRVK guess what i was new to linux 4 years ago and i am still learning
[06:22] <Beldar> adante, I meant changing the read type of HD's I'm not sure whether this can be fixed, or if it is just a new mbr is needed. For example you can't do this with windows installs.
[06:23] <Beldar> adante, I would change the bios back to ide and do some research, it should boot normally.
[06:24] <Beldar> adante, If it had been working fine before the bios change.
[06:25] <ubuntuRVK> JUSTHELDSHORTANDTHENLEDONALEED
[06:25] <adante> Beldar: i'll give that a go - longer term I was hoping to adjust the boot sequence to work as getting ahci/hotplug working would be quite useful for me
[06:25] <Beldar> ubuntuRVK, What help do yo need?
[06:25] <cfhowlett> ubuntuRVK, you make no sense.  Drop the CAPS and use punctuation.
[06:26] <Beldar> adante, All possible, you just need to know what you are doing.
[06:27] <ubuntuRVK> REINSTALLINGORERASINGREADYFOUNDTABLETWITH ANDR OID
[06:28] <cfhowlett> ubuntuRVK, this is not android support.  wrong channel.
[06:28] <keenguitar> he should really get kicked
[06:28] <cfhowlett> keenguitar, agreed
[06:28] <Beldar> ops informed
[06:29] <ubuntuRVK> HAHAYOUKNOWWHEREMYGRANDMAISINSTEAD?SMARTASSJUSTNEEDONEWITHSOUNDOUTPUTUBUNTURUNSWITHOUTSMARTY
[06:30] <cfhowlett> !ops | ubuntuRVK trolling
[06:30] <ubuntuRVK> MINEIS
[06:31]  * Beldar waves his cane and proclaims "get off my lawn"
[06:31] <svetlana> ubuntuRVK: i /msg'ed you, hope that helps! :)
[06:31]  * cfhowlett thinks "get off my lawn" is too gentle.  Time for some Jules Pitt intervention ...
[06:32] <svetlana> PolishPickers: btw i still love you as always (seriously)
[06:34] <keenguitar> Everytime I start Ubuntu I get an error saying selinuxfs failed to mount, but everything seems to work fine afterwards (I am dual booting ubuntu along windows 8)
[06:35] <PolishPickers> thanks svetlana! back at ya
[06:35] <adante> Beldar: actually it turns out I was mistaken - the error is occurring because I've connected some new hard drives - if I remove them the system boots fine
[06:35] <keenguitar> can someone help ^^
[06:35] <Beldar> keenguitar, Have you used a bootrepair fix?
[06:36] <keenguitar> no Beldar, how would I do that?
[06:36] <Beldar> adante, Cool I had thought you could change the read but was not sure, having the same HD first read was the answer it seems.
[06:37] <Beldar> keenguitar, NOt saying you should, however it puts a selinux in the boot is all.
[06:37] <Silverhand> Hi. Was looking for a solution to a problem I've been having and came across this IRC, is this a good place to get help?
[06:37] <Beldar> Silverhand, If ubuntu related maybe.
[06:37] <Silverhand> Beldar, yeah
[06:38] <keenguitar> Beldar:So I shouldn't? Are there any risks?
[06:38] <helmut_> hi
[06:38] <Silverhand> I've had ubuntu installed on a laptop for a few days now, and when I try to log in the video drivers seem to crash. Works fine logging into a guest profile, but can't access mine.
[06:39] <Beldar> keenguitar, Needs to be used correctly with uefi, yes it may not work. However it has a bootinfo summary that is a diagnostic, run it with no fixes and post here and start a thread at the ubuntu forums with UEFI in the header.
[06:39] <cfhowlett> !ask | Silverhand,
[06:40] <Beldar> keenguitar, I would not use the repair unless a told by someone who knows. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[06:40] <Beldar> are*
[06:40] <bivin> Is there any version of Ubuntu which supports wubi in windows 8.1?
[06:41] <keenguitar> Beldar: I will first check if my BIOS uses UEFI, if it doesn't it might be another problem?
[06:41] <Beldar> bivin, No and none supported really
[06:41] <cfhowlett> bivin, wubi is no longer supported and is a bad idea in general
[06:41] <Beldar> keenguitar, run the bootinfo summary.
[06:42] <cfhowlett> bivin, possible workaround: install virtualbox to windows.  install 32 bit lubuntu or xubuntu to virtualbox.
[06:42] <cfhowlett> bivin, OR do a proper dual boot.
[06:43] <bivin> Ok. Dual boot will reduce the boot speed of windows 8, right?
[06:43] <Beldar> bivin, No fast boot correct.
[06:43] <bivin> Reduce means increases
[06:44] <Beldar> bivin, The fast boot is just a suspend anyway.
[06:44] <bivin> But it made it superior to windows 7 which took ages to boot.
[06:45] <Beldar> bivin, both should boot in about 30 seconds
[06:45] <eeee> bivin: it still boots pretty quickly
[06:46] <bivin> Ok.  Thank you guys.
[06:48] <keenguitar> Beldar: I got this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8060529/
[06:48] <jorge2> what does sudo apt-get dist-upgrade do?
[06:48] <adante> is there an up to date document about the ubuntu boot process?
[06:49] <dotDeb> jorge2 OS upgrade to new version
[06:49] <eeee> jorge2: it's like upgrade (which upgrades installed packages) except it has the ability the remove other packages if it is required to install the new ones
[06:49] <adante> i'm seeing documents that refer to the menu.lst which I am used to, but other discussion suggests this was deprecated for some more elaborate config system
[06:49] <dotDeb> jorge2 dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of upgrade,
[06:49] <dotDeb>        also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions of packages
[06:50] <jorge2> how come when I do it only like 3 packages are needed?
[06:50] <jorge2> how do you upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04?
[06:50] <jorge2> without fresh install
[06:50] <eeee> jorge2: i think you have to go to 12.04 before, then 14.04.1
[06:50] <eeee> jorge2: sudo do-release-upgrade
[06:51] <Beldar> keenguitar, No Uefi, however grub was put into the windows boot that is an issue hold on.
[06:51] <eeee> jorge2: ( 13.10 > 12.04 > 14.04.1 )
[06:51] <eeee> so you'll have to issue that command twice to get there
[06:52] <jorge2> why do you have to go backwards?
[06:52] <jorge2> then forwards
[06:53] <eeee> i think because 12.04 & 14.04 are LTS releases
[06:54] <et_> what does lts mean
[06:54] <eeee> long term support, 5 years
[06:54] <et_> ahh thankyou
[06:55] <eeee> np
[06:55] <Beldar> keenguitar, There used to be a link for this exact problem, however all you need to do is remove grub from W8, open it from ubuntu and run a search for grub and delete what you find
[06:56] <Beldar> keenguitar,  W8 looks like you install so I assume you have the install  or a recovery disc right?
[06:56] <Beldar> your*
[06:57] <keenguitar> yes Beldar
[06:58] <keenguitar> I don't know how to do everything you suggested though
[07:00] <Beldar> keenguitar, windows opens from home you will be in nautilus still hit search (a magifying lens) type in grub and it wil show what is in windows. Just be sure you are doing this in the opened windows.
[07:01] <buriedalive> hi all
[07:01] <keenguitar> so I have to start windows and search for grub?
[07:02] <keenguitar> wouldn't grub be on a system partition?
[07:03] <buriedalive> whats wrong?
[07:04] <keenguitar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8060529/ when I start Ubuntu I get an error saying it failed to mount selinuxfs but it works still
[07:05] <buriedalive> hm
[07:05] <buriedalive> Boot sector type:  Windows 8/2012: NTFS
[07:05] <Beldar> keenguitar, Is ubuntu booting?
[07:05] <keenguitar> yes, I am on ubuntu now
[07:05] <Beldar> keenguitar, open home.
[07:05] <buriedalive> there is a problem
[07:06] <keenguitar> my boot sector is installed alongside windows 8...
[07:06] <keenguitar> genius
[07:06] <Beldar> keenguitar, do you know what home is?
[07:06] <keenguitar> the first icon on the top of the dock I guess?
[07:06] <Beldar> keenguitar, Be careful here, I know this stufff getting random info is not a good idea.
[07:06] <keenguitar> or the home folder?
[07:07] <buriedalive> replace grub in to jther partial HD no?
[07:07] <Beldar> buriedalive, Stop please.
[07:07] <Beldar> keenguitar,In home W8 is in the left panel click it
[07:09] <keenguitar> ok I found my windows directory
[07:09] <keenguitar> was that what I was looking for?
[07:09] <keenguitar> it does contain boot files but I am worried they are mixed with windows files boot stuff...
[07:09] <Beldar> keenguitar, Yes you are looking at the windows OS in the window now right?
[07:09] <keenguitar> yes Beldar
[07:10] <Beldar> keenguitar, Click the magnifying glass icon at the top of the window, it opens a search and type in grub
[07:11] <ubuntupc9> is there anything I need to know about flashing usb firmware on Ubuntu?
[07:12] <keenguitar> ok searching... seems it will take some time
[07:12] <Beldar> ubuntupc9, be sure it is linux friendly, are you adding or removing? More details really.
[07:12] <Beldar> keenguitar, Has to search the OS, when any grub shows, let it finish you will just delete it.
[07:13] <buriedalive> ubuntupc9 cat /etc/lsb-release
[07:13] <ubuntupc9> bought a usb wifi antenna Beldar at Defcon and I wanted to reflash the latest firmware in a LiveOS to avoid any shall we say nasty surprises
[07:14] <Beldar> keenguitar, This is a right click, you may only have a move to trash, but if you click it will say no trash and just delete do a yes there.
[07:14] <trijntje> ubuntupc9: and Beldar supports 1) flashing new firmware to their dongles, and 2) has a program that does this for ubuntu?
[07:15] <trijntje> I thought you mean belkin above, I meant the manufacturer
[07:15] <turdle654> Hi
[07:16] <PolishPickers> nn svetlana
[07:16] <keenguitar> Beldar, the search is finished and I found 2 files, both named "grubenv"
[07:16] <buriedalive> hi
[07:16] <svetlana> PolishPickers, sleep well :)
[07:17] <keenguitar> deleted, what next Beldar?
[07:17] <ubuntupc9> not sure trijntje I got its IMG from the website but I'm just not sure how to do this in a safe way
[07:18] <ubuntupc9> its an Alfa
[07:18] <Beldar> keenguitar, Close the windows and and run a sudo update-grub in ubuntu than reboot and see if the error is gone and both ubuntu and windows boot.
[07:18] <trijntje> ubuntupc9: Have you tried if it works with ubuntu? I've honestly never heard of a dongle that required the user to update the firmware to work on ubuntu
[07:18] <ubuntupc9> hang on
[07:19] <on247> Hi
[07:19] <buriedalive> ubuntupc9 take control, good as f good)
[07:20] <on247> Im stuck inside a vinagre session because i cant exit fullscreen no matter what
[07:21] <svetlana> on247, ^C, ^Z, ^Q, alt+f4
[07:21] <svetlana> any good?
[07:21] <on247> al those got sent to the server
[07:22] <on247> almost closed this webchat
[07:22] <on247> im browsing inside the server
[07:22] <b0x> hmm ubuntu wont update to 14 :/
[07:22] <b0x> from 13.10
[07:22] <on247> .04 or .10
[07:22] <on247> ?
[07:23] <ubuntupc9> http://www.alfa.com.tw/products_show.php?pc=34&ps=92 thats what I've got
[07:23] <b0x> 0.4
[07:23] <ubuntupc9> trying to do some wifi hunting
[07:24] <trijntje> ubuntupc9: wifi hunting?
[07:24] <b0x> i got 2 of them :)
[07:24] <b0x> and an alfa R36
[07:24] <Beldar> trijntje, They were just at defcon, heh
[07:25] <b0x> errr
[07:25] <ubuntupc9> haha yeah
[07:25] <b0x> not 36..
[07:26] <on247> nevermind alt f11 did th trick
[07:26] <b0x> i forget
[07:27] <b0x> after cracking some networks with the adaptor, u just plug the adaptor into this thing
[07:27] <ubuntupc9> I'll make a pentoo live USB and plug it in there
[07:27] <b0x> puts out its on network
[07:27] <b0x> etc
[07:27] <b0x> should work in virtualbox
[07:27] <b0x> kali
[07:27] <b0x> etc
[07:27] <b0x> was the R36 :D
[07:28] <b0x> http://www.alfa.com.tw/products_show.php?pc=51&ps=11
[07:28] <on247> I prefer to just grab one of those amplyfying antennnas and let me in in to low sec (ie key calculable) or open networks
[07:28] <b0x> i use a 13db antenna
[07:28] <trijntje> b0x: ubuntupc9: talk about cracking networks is not apropriate in this channel
[07:28] <b0x> my bad
[07:29] <keenguitar> Beldar: I still have the failed to mount selinuxfs problem
[07:29] <keenguitar> but windows and ubuntu still boot fine
[07:30] <Beldar> keenguitar, So this is where in the boot exactly?
[07:30] <on247> but stil i rarely need to do that , as y ISP does provide internet in hotspot and i have a nice internet at college
[07:30] <ubuntupc9> I'm not trijntje
[07:31] <keenguitar> sys/../selinuxfs
[07:31] <keenguitar> I forgot what .. was
[07:31] <ubuntupc9> My question was about a safe way to plug in a usb device into Ubuntu which I bought from defcon
[07:31] <keenguitar> it failed to mount because it wasn't found though
[07:31] <Beldar> keenguitar, Before grub was it seemed was your description.
[07:31] <on247> We dont know the possible treat so ..
[07:32] <on247> Fearing badusb?
[07:32] <on247> data on it?
[07:32] <on247> rubber ducky?
[07:33] <Beldar> keenguitar, Unfortunately the real expert in this area is not on now but generally is US daytime. I suspect it is a mbr bug. I would come back at that time and see if they are around TJ_ is their nick.
[07:33] <trijntje> ubuntupc9: I have no idea, how can you know if the firmware from the manufacturer is any safer
[07:34] <ar> Hi. how can i tell networkmanager to stop trying to manage my eth0? preferably from the cli
[07:34] <keenguitar> this is the exact error: Mount failed for selinuxfs on /sys/fs/selinux: No such file or directory
[07:34] <ar> (no, i don't want to turn it off completly
[07:37] <ubuntupc9> well trijntje its got to be a safer bet than buying something at a hacker con
[07:37] <ubuntupc9> For that matter trijntje I can boot to the Ubuntu USB and mount it there
[07:38] <svetlana> ar: /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf may contain useful settings
[07:41] <Beldar> keenguitar, Are you fully updated, have you run the softwae updater or a sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  I see you error as a bug in debian and redhat and fedora should have been fixed.
[07:41] <Beldar> your*
[07:42] <keenguitar> I upgraded without using the terminal, a window popped up, shortly after I installed Ubuntu
[07:43] <Beldar> keenguitar, What was the release yo had installed and when was the upgrade?
[07:43] <Beldar> you*
[07:43] <et_> im not an expert... i always have probs if i update via just update on the updater
[07:44] <et_> a fresh install always works soo much better
[07:44] <keenguitar> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[07:45] <et_> i just think when you try to update an os via that way there are library probs etc...
[07:45] <Beldar> keenguitar, When was the 12.04 install and the upgrade to trusty?
[07:46] <keenguitar> yesterday was the 12.04 install and update to 14.04
[07:46] <et_> my friend tried that and lost video lol
[07:47] <Beldar> keenguitar, Ah well 12.04.5 is out you should have made sure it was upgraded fully. run sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in trusty
[07:47] <keenguitar> that's funny, because I installed ubuntu once before and I lost video
[07:47] <ubuntupc9> ok dumb question, too lazy to search but I will accept that as an answer.  Upgrading Ubuntu, same as windows?  Just upgrade and nothing is lost?
[07:48] <et_> was it a fresh install?
[07:48] <keenguitar> yes
[07:48] <et_> or just upgrading the os
[07:48] <et_> hmm the only time i had real problems was using ati cards
[07:48] <Beldar> ubuntupc9, Nothing is sure always be backed up, windows breaks to.
[07:48] <et_> butge force seems to work okay
[07:48] <ubuntupc9> yeah I can make a clonezilla img
[07:49] <Beldar> ubuntupc9, No 3rd party packages makes a upgrade more likely to succeed,.
[07:49] <ubuntupc9> this is just my android build playground, not much in data
[07:49] <et_> ahh yah
[07:49] <et_> i had to change that before
[07:49] <et_> i reemember
[07:50] <et_> i havent tried any os for my cell device
[07:50] <et_> but i am curious about it
[07:50] <keenguitar> well if selinuxfs doesn't mount am I in trouble? everything seems to be working fine still
[07:50] <funky1> hi guys, i have an intenl nuc dn2820fy and had ubuntu 14.04 installed on it, worked fine, did an update and now it is not booting anymore, and bios says it can't find boot media, anyknow had a similar problem, did it break something wit uefi booting maybe
[07:51] <et_> that sucks
[07:51] <et_> okay
[07:51] <et_> when booting maybe hold shift down
[07:51] <et_> and you can load into repair mode
[07:52] <Beldar> keenguitar, I would want a perfect boot myself selinux is a security thing, but I'm not at all familiar with it's use or if it has to be configured to run. Better help is needed for a definitive answer. ;)
[07:52] <Dasm> Hey guys
[07:53] <keenguitar> hey Dasm
[07:53] <keenguitar> haha
[07:53] <reuven> hello all
[07:53] <Dasm> I have xubuntu, how can I change display settings? (contrast, brightness, etc)
[07:53] <Dasm> keenguitar, I know you.. I think
[07:53] <funky1> btw i have only ubuntu on it
[07:53] <Beldar> keenguitar, Having the grub in the windows partition usually has windows not booting or ubuntu if I remember, so to say the least this is a strange one.
[07:54] <keenguitar> Dasm, you know me from KSPOfficial
[07:55] <reuven> Dasm goto settings > power manager and there you can choose brightness when connected to battery or not
[07:56] <Dasm> Not backlight brightness- I mean color options- I found Nvidia server, but the only setting it has is FXAA
[07:56] <reuven> Ah.. I don familiar with it, sorry
[08:00] <funky1> anyone else has a nuc?
[08:00] <funky1> or uefi related boot trouble?
[08:00] <purnanand> purnanand hi buzz
[08:02] <kolos> a
[08:02] <kolos> aaaaaaaaaaa
[08:02] <purnanand> I am trying to install packages like g++,nasm ,but it can't
[08:02] <Beldar> keenguitar, Did you use a 3rd party booter in windows to boot ubuntu like easybcd?
[08:03] <keenguitar> Beldar: no
[08:03] <purnanand> no I don't use 3rd party booter
[08:05] <Beldar> keenguitar, Cool the info we saw in the bootinfo summary led me to a thread where the user had done this. This part, Grub2 (v1.97-1.98) in the file /NST/nst_linux.mbr  in the windows partition. Just curious is all grub is an area I have spent some time on as a multibooter.
[08:05] <ubuntupc9> ok off I go, thanks all
[08:07] <purnanand> Can I download separately the files of g++,nasm
[08:07] <ikonia> purnanand: just pull them from the repo
[08:08] <ikonia> purnanand: they will bring the right dependencies down with them then
[08:10] <purnanand> Once I tried sudo apt-get install g++ but not worked
[08:11] <xubuntu167> hello guys, when i install xubuntu, i have got invalid partition table!, how i can fix this problem? please help me!:)
[08:11] <ikonia> purnanand if you give us more info than "doesn't work" we can try to help you get it to work
[08:11] <ikonia> xubuntu167: what partition table is on the disk ?
[08:11] <xubuntu167> i create root, home and swap partitions:)
[08:11] <ikonia> xubuntu167: how big is the disk ?
[08:12] <xubuntu167> installation was succesfull
[08:12] <xubuntu167> 320gb
[08:12] <ikonia> ok, so if the installation was sucessful, what's the issue ?
[08:12] <xubuntu167> when restart computer i get invalid partition table message
[08:12] <xubuntu167> :)
[08:12] <ikonia> xubuntu167: where do you get this error ?
[08:12] <xubuntu167> when computer restarting
[08:12] <ikonia> xubuntu167: at what point in the boot process,
[08:12] <xubuntu167> after restart
[08:13] <Beldar> xubuntu167, Had this been a gpt HD?
[08:13] <ikonia> xubuntu167: do you see the grub boot loader prompt yes/no
[08:13] <xubuntu167> i don`t know very mutch about this
[08:13] <xubuntu167> i dont know that is grub boot loader:d
[08:13] <ikonia> xubuntu167: thats ok
[08:13] <ikonia> xubuntu167: talk me through what you see, before and after the error message
[08:14] <xubuntu167> but in past i install few times ubuntu and alltime was everythink is allright
[08:14] <purnanand> It gives me like this 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:14] <xubuntu167> when computer start, system write invalid partition table
[08:14] <ikonia> xubuntu167: focus on the questions I'm asking
[08:14] <xubuntu167> my english is poor sorry:D
[08:14] <ikonia> xubuntu167: how many disks are in the system ?
[08:14] <xubuntu167> one
[08:14] <ikonia> xubuntu167: your english is fine - don't worry
[08:15] <ikonia> xubuntu167: did you install from a DVD ?
[08:15] <xubuntu167> no, from usb
[08:15] <ikonia> xubuntu167: is the usb disk still in the system ?
[08:15] <xubuntu167> no i refuse from system
[08:15] <xubuntu167> cut off:D
[08:15] <ikonia> xubuntu167: can you reboot from that usb disk ?
[08:15] <ikonia> xubuntu167: to get into a desktop
[08:16] <xubuntu167> after invalid partition table erros i push enter many times and system loading
[08:16] <xubuntu167> and i can use linux
[08:16] <ikonia> xubuntu167: so it does boot
[08:16] <cfhowlett> xubuntu167, what language do you speak?
[08:16] <xubuntu167> but it`snt normal
[08:16] <ikonia> cfhowlett: good call
[08:16] <xubuntu167> i install english
[08:16] <xubuntu167> i am lithuanian
[08:17] <cfhowlett> !lithuanian
[08:18] <xubuntu167> were nobody in my country channel:P
[08:18] <xubuntu167> ok when i start computer, i got message: invalid partition table, when i push few times ENTER AND system load
[08:19] <purnanand> hey  ikonia pls give me my question's answer
[08:19] <xubuntu167> but it isnt normal
[08:19] <cfhowlett> !install > cfhowlett
[08:23] <norchacha> Hey, could someone help me with the command add-apt-repository? I tried adding this repository: https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/cinnamon-stable and it doesn't work for some reason.
[08:23] <svetlana> what does it do instead of working
[08:23] <norchacha> asks if i have a stable internet connection
[08:23] <ikonia> has that repo been retired ?
[08:23] <ikonia> that PPA
[08:24] <norchacha> Shouldn't be. Cinnamon on Ubuntu.
[08:24] <purnanand> Once I tried sudo apt-get install g++ but not worked
[08:24] <ikonia> yes, it's dead
[08:24] <ikonia> I thought it had gone
[08:24] <cfhowlett> !cinnamon
[08:24] <cfhowlett> !info cinnamon
[08:24] <cfhowlett> ikonia, I get nothing either
[08:24] <ikonia> purnanand: yes, you said that, tell us how it didn't work and we'll help you get it to work
[08:24] <ikonia> I thought it had gone
[08:24] <svetlana> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/05/ubuntu-cinnamon-desktop-ppa-retired yes it was retired
[08:24] <norchacha> cinamon in ubuntu is dead?
[08:24] <svetlana> yes you are correct
[08:24] <ikonia> it was a bad PPA and stopped being maintained
[08:25] <norchacha> wow, why did they drop it?
[08:25] <svetlana> you can read my url to find out
[08:25] <Beldar> norchacha, Nothing since saucy
[08:25] <cfhowlett> norchacha, because someone wasn't maintaining it
[08:25] <purnanand> how can I solve problem?
[08:25] <norchacha> wow, thanks for all your help guys, much appreciated
[08:25] <Beldar> norchacha, there is an unstable by the same maintainer
[08:26] <ikonia> which "should not be used"
[08:26] <ikonia> so why point someone at it
[08:26] <Beldar> I never promote PPA's here just info
[08:26] <norchacha> hold on, I'm using precise ubuntu
[08:26] <cfhowlett> !precise | norchacha,
[08:26] <ikonia> purnanand: if you tell us how/why it didn't work we can tell you how to get it to work
[08:26] <norchacha> 12.04 should still work with an oler version right?
[08:26] <ikonia> norchacha: no
[08:26] <ikonia> the PPA is dead
[08:26] <cfhowlett> norchacha, nope.
[08:27] <et_> or iqWHAT
[08:27] <Beldar> norchacha, there was no cinnamon for 12.04
[08:27] <et_> WAIT
[08:27] <norchacha> Well, dang
[08:27] <et_> i thought it was 14.04
[08:27] <et_> lts
[08:27] <norchacha> isn't saucy 14.04?
[08:28] <Beldar> norchacha, There is the other mint de in the repos
[08:28] <ikonia> et_: what are you talking about
[08:28] <cfhowlett> norchacha, saucy is not LTS
[08:28] <ikonia> norchacha: "PPA is dead - please do not try to use it at all"
[08:28] <et_> i thought the recent lts was 14.04
[08:28] <norchacha> well, being the curious little guy I am, I wanted to screw with it
[08:28] <cfhowlett> !trusty > norchacha
[08:28] <ikonia> norchacha: that seems the easy and clearest way to explain it
[08:28] <ikonia> et_: 14.04 is lts
[08:28] <norchacha> yeah I'm using an older version
[08:28] <et_> you said 12.04
[08:28] <ikonia> et_: 12.04 is also lts
[08:29] <cfhowlett> et_, 12.04 is LTS also
[08:29] <norchacha> I sorta dislike the new versions of ubuntu
[08:29] <ikonia> norchacha: then don't use it
[08:29] <norchacha> Which is why I'm using 12.04
[08:30] <norchacha> well anyways, much thanks guys
[08:30] <et_> i dont have a problem with it cept some of the libs missing and it was kinda hard for me to figure out what they were since im not  super expert
[08:30] <et_> but i think 14.04 is fine
[08:30] <norchacha> oh by no means am i calling it bad
[08:31] <norchacha> I think 14.04 is great
[08:31] <norchacha> I just prefer the older ones
[08:31] <purnanand> when I tried sudo apt-get update ,it is not installed properly 404nNOT FOUND ERROR
[08:31] <ikonia> norchacha: no-one said you are calling it bad
[08:31] <et_> yeah i know... sometimes if it isnt broke done fix it
[08:31] <et_> lol
[08:31] <ikonia> purnanand: that means you are pointing at a repo that is dead or you have no internet connection
[08:33] <et_> but on the 12.04 now where it says hardware update
[08:33] <et_> that can be a mistake for some people
[08:33] <ikonia> et_: what are you talking about ?
[08:33] <ikonia> et_: no-one is asking anything to do with what you are talking about
[08:34] <et_> ohh sorry
[08:34] <et_> my bad
[08:34] <et_> ill shutup
[08:35] <purnanand> WHAT  IS  MEAN BY 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded?
[08:35] <ikonia> purnanand: it means nothing happened
[08:35] <cfhowlett> purnanand, means exactly that = no changes made
[08:35] <TJ-> purnanand: Is the Ubuntu version installed on the PC still supported? If so "sudo apt-get update" should be sufficient to update the package lists locally. If the Ubuntu version is End-Of-Life (EOL) the archives have moved, so see  see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[08:35] <norchacha> woah wait a second, there is cinnamon for ubuntu..
[08:36] <norchacha> http://ubuntuportal.com/2014/05/how-to-install-cinnamon-2-2-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts.html
[08:36] <et_> hmm
[08:37] <norchacha> oh, but it still throws an error. What's gir1.2-muffin-3.0?
[08:37] <Beldar> norchacha, That is the unstable not supported here and problematic.
[08:37] <norchacha> A risk I'm willing to take :D
[08:38] <et_> how is it different from the  default os
[08:38] <cfhowlett> norchacha, in a terminal:          apt-cache show  gir1.2-muffin-3.0
[08:38] <Beldar> norchacha, For 12.04?
[08:39] <norchacha> beldar, yes
[08:39] <norchacha> cfhowlett, "unable to find package"
[08:39] <Beldar> norchacha, there is no 12.04 in that PPA.
[08:39] <norchacha> beldar, sauce?
[08:40] <cfhowlett> norchacha, something wrong.  if you actually got the error you posted ...
[08:40] <Beldar> norchacha, saucy is eol
[08:40] <cfhowlett> norchacha, what is the output of terminal command:   cat /etc/issue
[08:40] <norchacha> beldar, sauce = source.. sorry I'm a 4chan guy. where did you find that out is what I'm trying to ask
[08:41] <et_>  lol@4chan gay
[08:41] <et_> lol
[08:41] <Beldar> norchacha, 14.04 has mate in the repos, You might consider the other main desktops for ubuntu like xubuntu, lubuntu, kubuntu
[08:41] <norchacha> cfhowlett, a blank file with "ubuntu 12.04.5 \n \l"
[08:41] <ikonia> et_: no need for that and it's not welcome
[08:41] <et_> sorry
[08:41] <cfhowlett> et_, not funny.  violation of IRC channel guidelines.  stop.
[08:42] <et_> okay roger
[08:42] <amr> im trying to fix uefi booting on my laptop and boot-repair failed w/ this URL: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8061155/
[08:42] <amr> anyone know what to do?
[08:42] <norchacha> beldar, do you know of any cinnamon clones then?
[08:43] <norchacha> beldar, mate looks cool. however I'm not sure what xubuntu and lubuntu use.
[08:43] <norchacha> beldar, I'm going to guess kubuntu uses kde
[08:43] <cfhowlett> !flavors | norchacha,
[08:43] <eeee> amr: what exactly is the issue?
[08:43] <Beldar> norchacha, Not really, it was shortly available and was removed it is problematic.
[08:43] <norchacha> beldar, what were the main problems?
[08:44] <amr> it just throws 'an error occurred during repair'
[08:44] <Beldar> no idea
[08:44] <cfhowlett> norchacha, really doesn't matter.  it's not supported here.  let's move on.
[08:44] <cfhowlett> or continue discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:44] <norchacha> aight, will do thanks for all your help!
[08:44] <eeee> i mean what is the booting problem, grub not showing?
[08:45] <amr> oh
[08:45] <amr> no, i have legacy boot working fine
[08:45] <amr> i can skip uefi and go to grub
[08:45] <amr> but i want it to i can use uefi to boot windows and ubuntu
[08:45] <Beldar> amr, Looks like a no uefi install of ubuntu
[08:46] <amr> yeah thats why i was trying boot-repair
[08:46] <TJ-> amr: The system firmware is not accepting the new boot entry when "efibootmgr" sets it
[08:46] <Beldar> amr, legacy but no grub in the mbr, you must have changed it after the install.
[08:47] <lukas1> \exit
[08:47] <TJ-> amr: It looks as if you have SecureBoot enabled, since grub-install is telling 'efibootmgr' to install the signed shim.efi loader
[08:47] <amr> nope, secureboot is off
[08:48] <TJ-> amr: What make/model is the system?
[08:48] <eeee> amr: you have windows in uefi and ubuntu in legacy?
[08:48] <amr> hp spectre 13
[08:48] <amr> eeee: i think so, yea
[08:48] <TJ-> eeee: No, Ubuntu is installed in UEFI mode too
[08:48] <amr> it is?
[08:48] <eeee> oh cuz he was saying he skips uefi (in the bios i presumed)
[08:48] <amr> yeah, i hit esc and go to legacy boot
[08:48] <amr> then i get grub
[08:48] <TJ-> amr: See line 23 of the pastebin you gave us
[08:49] <amr> that's after running boot-repair
[08:49] <amr> perhaps its tried to install it there?
[08:49] <TJ-> amr: line 6 says there is no MBR boot-strap code or core.img so it isn't a legacy install
[08:50] <amr> im not sure how id boot into it then :p
[08:51] <TJ-> amr: how did you run the boot-info script, from the installed system that did boot? I don't see any sign of a Live ISO boot, or USB device
[08:52] <amr> installed system
[08:52] <amr> it ran from boot-repair
[08:52] <TJ-> amr: OK, when the system boots the issue is that there is no Ubuntu entry on the boot menu, yes?
[08:53] <amr> no, the issue is that i have to enter legacy boot to get to grub
[08:53] <amr> instead of there being a nice uefi boot memnu
[08:54] <TJ-> amr: There is no legacy boot-loader installed.
[08:54] <amr> well i hit esc to get to legacy boot and i see grub
[08:54] <amr> i dunno what else to say
[08:55] <TJ-> amr: I suspect what is happening is that some of the fallback HP EFI tools are looking at all possible boot-loaders in the EFI SP, and using those, when the entry is missing from the boot menu
[08:55] <eeee> amr: when you did the installation, was there a tiny man at the bottom of the ubuntu loading screen?
[08:55] <amr> uh
[08:55] <amr> ive no idea
[08:55] <amr> TJ-: actually that sounds familiar
[08:56] <amr> i hit esc, got to f9 which is the boot menu, then i hit 'ubuntu' on partition <x> and it runs grub
[08:56] <amr> so i guess i manually do it
[08:56] <TJ-> amr: The problem can be seen at line 9218 and just after
[08:56] <amr> so if its not installed in the mbr, and i pick the drive to boot frmo to get into grub, how can i fix that?
[08:57] <amr> or at least fix it so ubuntu & windows are options to boot from in uefi
[08:57] <eeee> amr: i think you have a hard-coded bios?
[08:57] <eeee> TJ-: ?
[08:57] <amr> im not sure what that means, sorry
[08:57] <Leegaert> Hi, since I upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 my server keeps getting stuck on boot on a black screen with "Scanning for BTRFS filesystems". I have a BTRFS volume which is mounted through /etc/fstab. Most solutions I've read for this problem involve removing the btrfs-tools. Should I just wait for the scanning to end (been going on for more then 10 minu
[08:57] <Leegaert> tes now)?
[08:58] <calime8272> hi guys, to clean lubuntu i use : clean,autoclean,autoremove and purge, it's ok?
[08:58] <cfhowlett> Leegaert, might want to ask #ubuntu-server
[08:58] <calime8272> or i can do issues?
[08:58] <calime8272> thanks
[08:58] <cfhowlett> calime8272, yep those are the ones
[08:58] <Leegaert> ah okay, thanks cfhowlett
[08:58] <calime8272> hi cfhowlett
[08:58] <cfhowlett> Leegaert, happy2help
[08:59] <cfhowlett> calime8272, ^^^
[08:59] <TJ-> amr: There, 'efibootmgr' is calling into the system EFI services to add Ubuntu as a boot menu option... Then it lists all the boot menu entries and shows an "ubuntu" entry... but after a reboot you say that is missing, so the firmware isn't saving it
[08:59] <calime8272> autoremove it's ok or it's dangerous?
[09:00] <amr> that what is missing?
[09:00] <cfhowlett> calime8272, not dangerous since it will display what it's going to do and ask approval ...
[09:00] <amr> efi has no menu for me, it just boots windows
[09:00] <cynicallemon> calime8272: autoremove is only dangerous if it say wants to remove your current kernel for some reason
[09:00] <eeee> ( the ubuntu menu entry, i think )
[09:00] <amr> and i have to manually go to the boot menu & select ubuntu
[09:00] <amr> 1s, let me reboot
[09:01] <calime8272> ah ok
[09:01] <cynicallemon> calime8272: always verify what it wants to remove
[09:01] <calime8272> ok
[09:02] <TJ-> amr: Do you have QuickBoot enabled? That sounds like the issue
[09:03] <cynicallemon> calime8272: its usually ok but check all the same
[09:03] <coolubuntu> I am trying to log into my machine but when I try it says 'failed to start session' ?
[09:03] <coolubuntu> any ideas?
[09:03] <coolubuntu> this is when I use ctrl+alt_F7, currently I am in one of the virtual terminals
[09:05] <calime8272> i used bleachbit yesteraday , but at reboot doesn't start ubuntu, i choosed super user
[09:06] <neutralizer> I have a cron file in /etc/cron.d/ named appname.cron.sh and it is not seem to work whereas other crons work from the dir. is that the name which is not allowed? because last time I was playing with names and I noticed it did work without .cron.sh part in the name.
[09:07] <Guest40771> How do you get Shutter to screen cap without the big window?
[09:07] <amr> ok back
[09:07] <cfhowlett> Guest40771, menu offers selection options : whole window, active window, etc
[09:07] <TJ-> amr: Do you have QuickBoot enabled? That sounds like the issue
[09:07] <amr> TJ-: ummm good question
[09:08] <amr> let me reboot and hceck :)
[09:08] <TJ-> amr: If the system is booting directly into Windows... that would be the #1 suspect
[09:09] <amr> https://www.dropbox.com/s/wevjfnly7o56u7w/IMG_20140816_100259.jpg
[09:09] <amr> this is what i see when choosing 'boot menu'
[09:10] <TJ-> amr: OK, and does the "ubuntu" entry start?
[09:11] <TJ-> amr: I assume so, so therefore that shows that 'efibootmgr' has added your Ubuntu install into the boot menu... and the bootinfo output showed it was set as the default, so the only reason I can think of for Windows to start directly is if the UEFI QuickBoot option is enabled and its going directly to Windows without consulting the boot menu
[09:13] <amr> 'intel quick start' was enabled
[09:13] <amr> i disabled that
[09:13] <TJ-> amr: That should sort things out
[09:13] <amr> so give boot-repair another go?
[09:14] <TJ-> amr: no need, it is a firmware issue not OS
[09:14] <amr> oh
[09:14] <amr> thanks :-)
[09:14] <TJ-> amr: ubuntu should still be the default OS unless the firmware refused to accept that... give it a try and let me know
[09:17] <user123321> Does anyone have an idea why my LUbuntu didn't suspend? Is it because of the LUbuntu VM's?
[09:17] <user123321> I suspended through my host.
[09:19] <TJ-> user123321: Check "/var/log/kern.log" for clues
[09:20] <user123321> TJ-, Ok
[09:23] <ChaosBringer> Hello all, i'm seeing some bash completion errors when using umount
[09:24] <ChaosBringer> on Ubuntu 14.04 server install (with Gnome-Shell installed after)
[09:32] <_2_Lily97> Hey
[09:32] <Zadochob> Hi everybody! I was wondering, is it possible to install ubuntu on a hdd of 4tb, using btrfs and a fairly good use of gparted, or not ?
[09:32] <root____> hola
[09:33] <_2_Lily97> how are you
[09:34] <cfhowlett> _2_Lily97, ask your ubuntu question
[09:36] <_2_Lily97> is it possible to speak any language in this room
[09:36] <cfhowlett> _2_Lily97, english only.  what language do you need?
[09:37] <_2_Lily97> Sepedi or setswana
[09:38] <cfhowlett> !sepedi
[09:38] <cfhowlett> !setswana
[09:38] <cfhowlett> !zimbabwe
[09:38] <_2_Lily97> No
[09:39] <cfhowlett> _2_Lily97, country?
[09:39] <cfhowlett> !za
[09:40] <cfhowlett> !zw
[09:40] <_2_Lily97> SA
[09:40] <purnanand> I want to install G++,NASM
[09:43] <purnanand> PLS  HELP  ME
[09:43] <TJ-> purnanand: which Ubuntu release ?
[09:43] <purnanand> 13.04
[09:43] <TJ-> !eol | purnanand
[09:43] <TJ-> purnanand: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[09:43] <purnanand> WHAT  TO  DO?
[09:44] <Zadochob> I'm sorry, my question may be a bad one...
[09:44] <cfhowlett> purnanand, upgrade to a supported version.
[09:44] <cfhowlett> purnanand, 14.04.1
[09:46] <jham_> hello
[09:46] <purnanand> THEY ASK  /Alpha1   /Alpha2   /Beta1   /Beta2   /ReleaseAnnouncementDraft   /ReleaseNotes   /ReleaseSchedule   /ReleaseTaskSignup   WHAT  TO  DO?
[09:46] <mrvadon> hi
[09:46] <jham_> im new here
[09:46] <jham_> :)
[09:46] <mrvadon> :)
[09:48] <purnanand> PLS  GIVE  ME  ANSWER
[09:48] <cfhowlett> purnanand, 14.04.1
[09:48] <bekks> purnanand: Please dont shout.
[09:48] <bekks> purnanand: Install 14.04.1, or upgrade to it.
[09:49] <purnanand> THEY ASK  /Alpha1   /Alpha2   /Beta1   /Beta2   /ReleaseAnnouncementDraft   /ReleaseNotes   /ReleaseSchedule   /ReleaseTaskSignup   WHAT  TO  DO?
[09:49] <Slart> purnanand: where are you from?
[09:50] <cfhowlett> purnanand, you are NOT LOOKING AT 14.04.1
[09:50] <cfhowlett> purnanand, www.ubuntu.com        get the download
[09:50] <WinDu1965> just start testing 14.04.1 cloud server
[09:52] <pd> #rails
[09:56] <mrvadon> hello i am back again
[09:56] <cfhowlett> mrvadon, ask your questions
[09:58] <mrvadon> Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....
[09:58] <cfhowlett> mrvadon, stop that.
[10:00] <mrvadon> ok
[10:01] <lukas1> hellp
[10:01] <ciarly> Ciarly esce da #ubuntu
[10:01] <mrvadon> yes
[10:01] <arno-nym> hey guys, i got a short question for the community: is it possible to fully encrypt an existing xubuntu-installation afterwards? data is already written on the harddisk, i want to encypt "on-the-fly".
[10:01] <cfhowlett> !help | lukas1,
[10:01] <Slart> !it | ciarly
[10:02] <ciarly> ok ringrazio ...
[10:14] <pr3p> hola
[10:15] <cfhowlett> !es | pr3p,
[10:24] <dodobrain> hi all..
[10:24] <dodobrain> i've got an ubuntu 14.04 live usb disk and the installaer refuses to show any partitions!
[10:25] <dodobrain> but when i go into gparted, it shows my extended partition and the contained ext4 and swap partitions (and also all the other windows partitions) without reporting any issues
[10:25] <dodobrain> can you tell me what is going on? is this a bug in the ubiquity installer?
[10:25] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, nope.  have you a GPT partition?
[10:26] <dodobrain> cfhowlett, gparted reports the partition table as msdos
[10:28] <dodobrain> actually wait..
[10:29] <dodobrain> gdisk -l /dev/sda says "Found invalid GPT and valid MBR; converting MBR to GPT format in memory"
[10:29] <adante> hi, i'm having this problem with dhclient still running when i configure static ip
[10:30] <adante> i'm reading this but i don't understand what the answer is http://askubuntu.com/questions/459140/why-dhclient-is-still-running-when-i-choose-static-ip
[10:30] <kurono_> hey, everyone! i have a problem with my laptop: it is not switching off after shutdown.
[10:30] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, yep.  that's what that looks like .
[10:30] <adante> the configuration file they've presented is identical to the one in the question? are they touching the file to  change the modified date or how is it different?
[10:30] <dodobrain> cfhowlett, this error makes no sense! it says "found invalid GPT and valid MBR". then immediately proceeds to say "converting MBR to GPT in memory"
[10:30] <dodobrain> shouldn't it say "converting GPT to MBR format in memory" ?
[10:31] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, you're running win8 as well?
[10:31] <dodobrain> if it says invalid GPT, why the heck would it convert MBR to GPT?
[10:31] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, if yes, UEFI stuff applies.
[10:31] <dodobrain> i'm not understanding the error properl
[10:31] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, does your computer have windows 8?
[10:31] <dodobrain> cfhowlett, its win7 not win8
[10:31] <dodobrain> also how do i check is the bios is uefi ?
[10:32] <cfhowlett> !uefi | dodobrain,
[10:32] <Deihmos> win 7 isn't going to be uefi
[10:32] <cfhowlett> Deihmos, yes, but he's had gpt so ...
[10:32] <kurono_> ahh... again no help. cu later.
[10:32] <Deihmos> unless the pc came with win 8 and you converted
[10:34] <dodobrain> nope.. pc came with win7
[10:34] <dodobrain> should i reboot and go into the bios to check somewhere if it mentions uefi ?
[10:35] <dodobrain> cfhowlett, Deihmos, is this paragraph still valid for 14.04 ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI#Identifying_if_the_computer_boots_the_HDD_in_EFI_mode
[10:36] <dodobrain> cos the 14.04 live usb for me shows the textual menu for selection of booting
[10:36] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, there's a command somewhere on that page to verify the presence of UEFI ...
[10:36] <Deihmos> boot windws then go to device disk mangemet and se if you have an efi partition
[10:37] <dodobrain> yeah, just booted windows..
[10:38] <TJ-> dodobrain: When 'gdisk' reports "Found invalid GPT and valid MBR; converting MBR to GPT format in memory" it simply means there is *only* an MBR, so gdisk presents a GPT compatible version of it *in memory* for you to examine.
[10:38] <Deihmos> or run msinfo32 and it will tell you under bios mode
[10:38] <TJ-> dodobrain: The PC has an MBR and is booting in BIOS mode
[10:38] <dodobrain> ok, loaded disk management and clicked on storage
[10:38] <dodobrain> what / where do i need to look?
[10:39] <dodobrain> this is for a friend's laptop and i haven't used windows in 16 years
[10:40] <TJ-> dodobrain: What would be helpful is from the Ubuntu Live ISO 'Try Ubuntu' option you could pastebin the result of "sudo fdisk -l"
[10:40] <dodobrain> yeah, i'll do that now.. but in the Storage section of the disk management.. i don;t see any mention of EFI
[10:41] <dodobrain> it just says HEalthy (OEM), Healthy(hibernate partition), healthy (boot, page fike, crash dump, primary partition), healthy(system, active, primary partition), healthy(active, primary partition)
[10:42] <dodobrain> wait a minute.. i found something strange now
[10:43] <dodobrain> when i rebooted and hit F12 to select the boot menu, it shows the USB under EFI boot, and HDD under legacy boot
[10:43] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, proceed carefully - read only.  delete/change NOTHING at this stage
[10:43] <dodobrain> so is this an EFI image that my friend has downloaded and pushed onto the usb ?
[10:43] <TJ-> dodobrain: That makes sense. UEFI has CSM enabled
[10:43] <dodobrain> TJ-, CSM?
[10:43] <TJ-> dodobrain: The installer is dual EFI/BIOS bootable
[10:43] <cfhowlett> !info csm
[10:44] <TJ-> dodobrain: UEFI has a Compatibility Support Module to provide legacy BIOS boot services
[10:44] <dodobrain> ok, in that case how do i select the USB to make sure it boots in legacy mode?
[10:44] <dodobrain> cos i think this might be the problem
[10:44] <TJ-> dodobrain: usually, the UEFI boot menu should offer two entries for the USB device, one for UEFI and the other for Legacy.
[10:46] <TJ-> dodobrain: unfortunately, some manufacturer's broken implementations of the boot-menu functionality means if a device has UEFI boot option a Legacy option won't be listed
[10:48] <dodobrain> ok, in the legacy boot it shows usb as well
[10:48] <dodobrain> so i'll select that onwe
[10:48] <dodobrain> ok.. i believe that was the only problem now
[10:48] <dodobrain> cos it immediately showed the proper gui progress
[10:48] <dodobrain> i.e. with the person with an accessibility keybiard icon on the bottom
[10:54] <bong1> java doesnt install on lubuntu 14.04 even after adding the ppa.
[10:54] <cfhowlett> !java
[10:55] <gartral> hello all, I have an HP laptop, everything basic works fine, but it's a tablet convertable thing, I want to get the special features working, first, auto/manual rotation for the screen when in tablet mode would be nice.. as of now the screen orientation button doesn't do jack squat
[11:05] <ironstein> Does anyone know how to get bluetooth to work in 14.04?
[11:06] <cfhowlett> !bluetooth | ironstein
[11:09] <dodobrain> cfhowlett, TJ- , booted into USB legacy mode.. output from various utilities: http://pastie.org/9478168
[11:10] <dodobrain> this is very strange. parted, gparted, fdisk, gdisk.... all of them can see the partitions except frigging ubuquity installer!
[11:10] <ironstein> cfhowlett: There is nothing there for 14.04
[11:11] <cfhowlett> ironstein, sorry, that was my only shot ... someone else will know more.
[11:11] <TJ-> ironstein: 1) Have a Bluetooth adapter 2) Ensure 'rfkill' hasn't turned its radio off 3) check the chipset is known with "hcitool dev"
[11:13] <TJ-> dodobrain: Are you using the installer's "Something Else" partitioning option?
[11:13] <dodobrain> no.. it didn;t even ask me that question
[11:14] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, should be one of the first questions asked : install to full disk, replace buntu or install something else ... or similar language
[11:15] <dodobrain> first, i select language English & continue, connected to internet, has atleast 6.4GB free space, Install 3rd party software & continue.
[11:15] <dodobrain> in the next screen all i see is Installation type, the list underneath is completely blank
[11:16] <ironstein> TJ: I don't see anything with "hcitool dev"
[11:16] <TJ-> dodobrain: I wonder if that is because that "6.4GB of free space" is actually made up of several small chunks between the existing partitions, and it cannot figure out how to use that when the installer expects to find it all in one place?
[11:16] <dodobrain> cfhowlett, TJ- , are you guys talking about selecting the 'install ubuntu' option directly on boot? i'm starting ubiquity manually after going into live mode
[11:16] <TJ-> ironstein: Then the BT device isn't being found by the kernel
[11:17] <dodobrain> then why doesn;t it even list the partitions?
[11:17] <dodobrain> i recall it lists all the partitions even if there is exactly 6.4gb free
[11:17] <eeee> dodobrain: are you installing in legacy mode?
[11:17] <TJ-> dodobrain: I think the installer creates a parted.log file in "/var/log/installer/" or somewhere similar; that might tell us what is up
[11:18] <dodobrain> eeee, i have the *exact* same "no partitions listed in the installer" problem in both USB legacy mode boot and USB UEFI mode boot
[11:18] <eeee> dodobrain: was your pc originally uefi?
[11:19] <ironstein> TJ: OK could you please be so kind as to tell me or point me in the right direction.
[11:19] <dodobrain> eeee, how do i tell? i checked the partitions in win7 and i didn;t see any mention of EFI
[11:20] <eeee> google for fixparts, it might help
[11:20] <dodobrain> i know about fixparts, but i'm worried a bit about win7 suddenly having problems cos i ran fixparts
[11:21] <TJ-> ironstein: What Bluetooth adapter/chipset does the PC have?
[11:21] <eeee> dodobrain: was your computer originally a win8 machine?
[11:21] <ironstein> TJ: Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio
[11:22] <eeee> dodobrain: if you have corrupted gpt data it would confuse the installer
[11:23] <dodobrain> eeee, originally a win7 machine and still has the same win7
[11:23] <dodobrain> never had win8 on it iirc
[11:23] <eeee> dodobrain: ok, i guess that's not it then..
[11:23] <eeee> does the installer show just empty space?
[11:23] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, I see we've come full circle.  I have a 2009 DELL that I made into a triple boot OSX/win7/ubuntu     box.  After I later dropped OSX and tried dualboot ubuntu/win7 only, the installer got very confused by the presence of gpt from OSX.  I cleaned out/converted gpt to pure MBR and all was right with the world.
[11:23] <dodobrain> yes, empty space!
[11:25] <Guest31825> Hi, sorry to interrupt, I have a odd question - for MultiSeat (xorg.conf?), can you use a TV and a monitor? Also, can you limit a certain users CPU and RAM usage
[11:25] <eeee> i'm fairly sure fixparts would not corrupt the windows installation
[11:25] <eeee> the other day someone else had a similar problem, and running fixparts fixed it
[11:26] <eeee> but he had a win7 mbr, which was previously a uefi win8
[11:26] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, I believe fixparts is what you want.   I think you can do a dry run/analyze this before pulling the trigger
[11:26] <dodobrain> cfhowlett, so just : sudo fixparts /dev/sda ?
[11:27] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, read man fixparts : I think fixparts with the -p flag will display only, not change anything
[11:27] <eeee> dodobrain: it also asks you what you want to do if it finds stray gpt data
[11:28] <eeee> ( i think, unless the guy used another software than the one that comes with ubuntu )
[11:28] <ironstein> TJ: Is that what you were wanting/asking for?
[11:30] <dodobrain> ok, now theres something strange..
[11:30] <dodobrain> in windows, it shows the existing C (/dev/sda3) the same size as before!
[11:31] <cfhowlett> dodobrain,  are you dual booting?
[11:31] <dodobrain> when i go into linux, gparted says there might be something wrong with /dev/sda3 but it shows the correct size and also shows the linux and swap partitions (/dev/sda5 and /dev/sda6) properly
[11:31] <dodobrain> cfhowlett, obvioudly
[11:32] <dodobrain> and fdisk and gdisk show the partition lists correctly
[11:32] <dodobrain> so whats going on?
[11:33] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, did you run the fixparts diagnostic?
[11:33] <dodobrain> after i ran fixparts, gdisk still says the same invalid gpt but valid mbr found message
[11:33] <dodobrain> yeah i ran fixparts and it didn;t ask for any correction
[11:33] <dodobrain> so i think theres nothing fixparts needs to fix!
[11:33] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, sounds like it ...
[11:33] <dodobrain> ok, i'll try somethign now
[11:34] <dodobrain> i'll resize the stupid win partition from diskmanagement itself in win7
[11:34] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, 1. did you verify the ubuntu .iso?   2. did you verify the ubuntu USB?
[11:34] <dodobrain> and hopefully it writes a reasonably proper partition table
[11:34] <amr> TJ-: still boots straight into windows
[11:34] <amr> i havent done a boot repair though
[11:35] <amr> shouls intry that?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> dodobrain, can't hurt to try it
[11:35] <dodobrain> yeah.. thats what im trying
[11:36] <Truly_Yours> hi. could someone tell me how to install a tar.gz into gdm to be used as a login screen?
[11:36] <dodobrain> after i do this, if linux still shows up a whacked up partition table, i will be reasonably convinced that the partition table has been b0rked beyond some crazy level of shit
[11:36] <mjayk> Truly_Yours: that doesnt make any sence what are you trying to install#
[11:37] <TJ-> ironstein: Do "sudo modprobe btusb" then "hcitool dev"
[11:37] <eeee> amr: try sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi.backup
[11:37] <dodobrain> mjayk, i suspect he wants to install a gdm theme
[11:37] <Truly_Yours> I'm trying to install a themed login screen on gdm
[11:37] <Truly_Yours> @ mjayk
[11:37] <eeee> amr: then try sudo cp /boot/efi/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[11:37] <dodobrain> also, if you haven't changed anything, you need to install a lightdm theme
[11:37] <dodobrain> cos gdm is no longer the login manager by default
[11:38] <Truly_Yours> I changed the login manager to gdm
[11:38] <MartyB4> Hi. Since upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 I've got several issues. In Unity session I cannot see the mouse. In KDE I cannot logout. Instead of logging out the computer goes into sleep mode (PC is a desktop). Can anyone help me?
[11:39] <TJ-> amr: The system should boot into the 'default' entry. When you did the boot-repair 'efibootmgr' showed Ubuntu as the default, but that could have changed. If you boot into Ubuntu via the boot menu and then run "sudo efibootmgr -v" and pastebin the output
[11:39] <ironstein> TJ: "Devices:" is all it says.
[11:40] <TJ-> ironstein: confirm that "btusb" is loaded: "lsmod | grep btusb"
[11:41] <doob422> hello
[11:42] <mjayk> hello
[11:42] <amr> TJ-: sure 1s
[11:43] <doob422> can anyone tell me how to make a python script executable in ubuntu
[11:43] <amr> BootOrder: 0001,3001,0000,2001,2002,2003
[11:43] <amr> crap, sorry
[11:43] <lukas1> doob422 chmod +x script.py
[11:44] <amr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8062203/
[11:44] <amr> looks like its hitting the windows boot manager first
[11:44] <doob422> lukasl i already did that but the script just open in gedit when i double click
[11:44] <v2zz> anybody knows a working tool to create bootable usb with ubuntu && win& ? i've tryed to use multibootusb (under ubuntu) and it doesn't give any reaction on win.iso at all, and ubuntus i add are not bootable anyway
[11:45] <cfhowlett> v2zz, unetbootin
[11:45] <TJ-> amr: change it with "sudo efibootmgr --bootorder 0000,0001,3001,2001,2002,2003"
[11:45] <cfhowlett> v2zz, wait.  WINDOWS . iso?
[11:45] <amr> giving that a go
[11:45] <TJ-> amr: Then verify it has changed with "sudo efibootmgr -v" again
[11:46] <kibad> anyhelp on dual booting after installing ubuntu?
[11:46] <amr> boot entry 2002 does not exist
[11:46] <amr> how odd
[11:46] <amr> its in the list now
[11:46] <kibad> and recreating grub with the help of boot-repair?
[11:47] <doob422> can anyone tell me how to execute a python script by just double clicking
[11:47] <ironstein> TJ: Yes it has.
[11:47] <kibad> make it executable..
[11:48] <TJ-> dodobrain: I've recreated your disk layout here in a VM, ran the desktop Try Ubuntu -> Install Ubuntu ... on "Installation type" I see "O Erase disk and install Ubuntu", "[ ] Encrypte the new Ubuntu installation for security", "[ ] Use LVM with the new Ubuntu installation", "O Something else"
[11:48] <mjayk> doob422: either sudo chmod +x file or right click the file then permissions then make executable
[11:48] <kibad> doob422: if you are on linux.. probably adding #!/usr/bin/python at the top of file and setting mode should be enough
[11:48] <TJ-> ironstein: which release of Ubuntu are you using?
[11:48] <ironstein> 14.04
[11:49] <kibad> people :( any help on dual booting? I think I've ruined by grub
[11:49] <doob422> kibad i already add the hashbang and chmod too but it still doesn't work
[11:49] <lukas1> doob422: you can also create .desktop file
[11:49] <kibad> doob422: does it throw permission error by any chance?
[11:50] <TJ-> ironstein: Looks like the device is dead then; the btusb module has had support for that device since 2008
[11:50] <doob422> lukasl: can you tell me how to create that .desktop file
[11:50] <lukas1> doob422: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[11:51] <dodobrain> TJ-, so theres something wrong with the usb
[11:51] <simpleuser> Hi there. I have ‘j’ and ‘k’ as default shortcuts on evince to go up and down. My keyboard layout is quite different than QWERTY so I’d like to replace these keys respectively by ‘t’ and ‘s’. How to do that?
[11:51] <lukas1> doob422:Exec=python /home/alex/Documents/script.py
[11:51] <dodobrain> cos it should really ask for what to do with regards to partitioning even before showing the partitions list
[11:51] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | dodobrain, check the ISO.  check the USB
[11:51] <doob422> kibad: it doesn't show any error, it just open in gedit when i double click it
[11:51] <dodobrain> yeah, i'll check the md5
[11:52] <dodobrain> or sha1 even
[11:52] <doob422> lukas1: i don't want to execute like that
[11:53] <amr> TJ-: still boots windoes first
[11:53] <amr> hm
[11:53] <ironstein> TJ: It works in w/ Windows 7
[11:53] <eeee> amr: did it switch it back to windows ? try sudo efibootmgr -v
[11:53] <amr> bootorder has reverted after reboot
[11:53] <amr> yep
[11:54] <loa> hellow
[11:54] <amr> i confirmed it had changed after i initially applied it though
[11:54] <amr> i also omitted 2002 as it no longer exists
[11:54] <amr> but its back in the list now
[11:54] <loa> can someone check if twitch working in last version of chromium?
[11:55] <kibad> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8062283/
[11:55] <loa> i meen video playback is working on twitch?
[11:55] <dodobrain> downloading 14.04.1-desktop-amd64 image now
[11:55] <kibad> please help
[11:55] <kibad> I've mentioned everything in the above link
[11:55] <TJ-> amr: Did the boot-order change fail since 2002 didn't exist?
[11:55] <amr> yes
[11:55] <TJ-> amr: I notice the list of entries doesn't have "2002" so that being in the boot-order is a bug in the firmware
[11:56] <cfhowlett_> kibad, do you get errors booting the windows dvd?
[11:56] <amr> i dropped it and tried again and it worked
[11:56] <TJ-> amr: OK, redo the boot-order change with ubuntu first, leave out any numbers that aren't in the list of available entries
[11:56] <kibad> cfhowlett_: nope.. I didn't
[11:56] <amr> yea, i did that
[11:56] <TJ-> amr: OK ... and yet the PC still started Windows?
[11:56] <amr> yep
[11:56] <loa> kibad, can't get why you can't boot from windows 7 boot disk.
[11:56] <amr> and the order changed on reboot
[11:56] <loa> some uefi shit here?
[11:56] <TJ-> amr: I think the firmware must have some other 'quick boot' option like the Intel one!
[11:56] <kibad> loa: is it something related to grub?
[11:57] <cfhowlett_> loa, profanity.  no.
[11:57] <v2zz> cfhowlett  yes, i want multiboot with ubuntu and windows
[11:57] <amr> TJ-: i had a look
[11:57] <loa> kibad, i don't think so.
[11:57] <amr> cant see anything
[11:57] <kibad> loa: should I try restore mbr option on boot repair?
[11:57] <cfhowlett_> kibad, booting dvd has nothing to do with grub.  grub sets up booting from the HDD
[11:57] <loa> looks like it is not working windows 7 cd or boot priority settings.
[11:57] <amr> there arent many options to begin with
[11:57] <TJ-> loa: Time to read the HP manual - I noticed they provide a pretty extensive set of EFI diagnostic utilities. There may be a clue in the docs
[11:57] <loa> kibad, you must just setup grub.
[11:57] <TJ-> oops
[11:57] <TJ-> amr: Time to read the HP manual - I noticed they provide a pretty extensive set of EFI diagnostic utilities. There may be a clue in the docs
[11:58] <amr> sounds like a good idea
[11:58] <eeee> amr: you have an hp?
[11:58] <amr> i do
[11:58] <amr> hp spectre 13
[11:58] <doob422> exit
[11:58] <eeee> amr: i have a hp too
[11:58] <eeee> and it wont change either
[11:58] <kibad> loa: I just can't figure out solution here :(
[11:58] <amr> the bootorder?
[11:59] <eeee> yeah
[11:59] <amr> hm
[11:59] <loa> kibad, you want do dual boot?
[11:59] <eeee> i tried switching the efi files too, it still didn't boot!
[11:59] <kibad> loa: yes I do..
[11:59] <loa> kibad, you installed windows 7 already?
[12:00] <loa> oh wrong steps order.
[12:00] <loa> first install windows 7
[12:00] <kibad> loa: yes... I read the blog later...
[12:00] <loa> but you can install windows 7 and run grub repair from ubuntu livecd
[12:01] <kibad> loa: thought it is mendable
[12:01] <eeee> amr: i tried changing the windows bcd entry too, didn't work either
[12:01] <amr> yeah im reading a lot online about people being unable to change the bootorder on their hp laptop
[12:01] <loa> that moment with not working windows 7 live cd is weird.
[12:01] <loa> it is really not how it supposed to work.
[12:01] <eeee> amr: you can try switching the files, it might work who knows
[12:01] <cfhowlett_> loa, I'd suspect a serious issue with that DVD - is it the original win7 or did you burn it?
[12:02] <TJ-> amr: See page 67 "Changing the computer boot order" of the "HP Spectre 13 Ultrabook Maintenance and Service Guide"
[12:02] <loa> try investigate this moment with dvd of windows 7, yea
[12:02] <loa> check it in virtualbox or on another pc.
[12:02] <kibad> will try that..
[12:03] <loa> kibad, you can try to switch off hdd if it is.
[12:03] <loa> maybe there is really something strange.
[12:04] <amr> interesting
[12:04] <amr> http://h30434.www3.hp.com/t5/Notebook-Operating-Systems-and-Software/Changing-Boot-Order-on-Dual-Boot-Windows-8-and-Ubuntu/td-p/2503733
[12:04] <amr> looks like it explicitly looks for a certain file
[12:04] <kibad> wondering what should I do if I can't get pass this
[12:04] <kibad> how about restore MBR option?
[12:04] <lukas1> finally, my ubuntu looks quite good: http://oi57.tinypic.com/xfb8rs.jpg
[12:05] <amr> TJ-: that's how i select ubuntu to begin with
[12:05] <MartyB4> Anyone knows about the problem when the mouse is not visible in Unity desktop???
[12:05] <loa> cfhowlett_, for that word sorry, i am will not use this again.
[12:05] <loa> i will not..
[12:05] <cfhowlett_> loa, ty
[12:06] <amr> eeee, TJ- : "There is some sort of a "recovery feature" or so that on every boot sets the very first UEFI load option to point to one of the two locations, in this order:"
[12:06] <amr> eeee: you kept your windows install right?
[12:06] <TJ-> amr: Yeah, I've read that
[12:06] <eeee> amr: yeah, i just almost never restart
[12:06] <eeee> lol
[12:06] <amr> same, i can still get into ubuntu
[12:06] <kibad> lukas1: how did you do  that! :) looks great
[12:06] <amr> it just feels wrong
[12:07] <kibad> reason I wanted to use linux is to try modifying things.
[12:07] <kibad> but no idea where to start
[12:07] <amr> maybe i should just put up with the stuff i have atm
[12:07] <TJ-> amr: I know why it is doing that... but until I can find detail about all the firmware options I can't suggest how to fix it cleanly
[12:07] <eeee> amr: which 2 locations?
[12:08] <loa> kibad, in my installations after installation of grub windows 7 continue working.
[12:08] <TJ-> amr: In UEFI there is a 'fixed' path the boot-manager looks to on removable media "/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI" ... the reason being, removable media by its nature will not have an entry saved in the boot menu so must have a way to be listed as a boot option
[12:08] <loa> grub can load windows 7 easilly.
[12:09] <TJ-> amr: Your HP is doing that... and nothing else. It is ignoring the BootOrder variable.
[12:09] <loa> what error grub show when you trying to load windows 7?
[12:09] <kibad> shows nothing
[12:09] <loa> so you select windows 7 and you see just black screen?
[12:09] <eeee> TJ-: i switched /Boot/bootx64.efi for grubx64.efi, and it still loaded windows
[12:09] <kibad> loa: did you try creating grub :)