[12:36] <Riddell> _the_1_: it's progressing.  there are minimal canonical developer resources applied to it
[12:36] <Riddell> Amaranth: people are paid to work on Ubuntu
[12:37] <Amaranth> I know.
[12:37] <shock> anyone here use enlightenment ?
[12:37] <shock> under powerpc?
[12:37] <shock> :P
[12:37] <Amaranth> But KUbuntu will allow people who want KDE to use Ubuntu which will get more testers.
[12:37] <_the_1_> Amaranth: You mean to tell me that the ubuntu devs are not paid devs? Where does Shuttleworth's money go then?
[12:38] <Amaranth> _the_1_: I doubt all the people working on either one of the two are paid by Canonical.
[12:39] <_the_1_> Amaranth: so kubuntu is a rogue project and is not coordinated in any way by canonical?
[12:39] <bascule> kroon:
[12:39] <bascule> no luck
[12:39] <Amaranth> _the_1_: See what Riddell said.
[12:39] <tjs> I need some help with a problem, and I have very little info to go on
[12:40] <bascule> thing is now, I have 2.6.10-3, but I can only see kernel sources for 2.6.9 and 2.6.11
[12:40] <_the_1_> Amaranth: ok..I missed that message
[12:40] <bascule> cause I was gonna try a manual buil of nvidia
[12:40] <Amaranth> I don't know what "rogue project" is supposed to mean though.
[12:41] <tjs> I baught a new dell inspiron 9200 about a week ago, I installed ubuntu, upgraded to hoary, it ran well for about two days, now it just hangs totally after about a minute
[12:41] <tjs> it lasts a bit longer in failsafe mode
[12:41] <_the_1_> rogue would mean if a bunch of devs who are not affiliated with ubuntu would want to take the ubuntu base and add kde on top
[12:41] <bascule> a fork
[12:41] <tjs> enough time to investigate logs etc.. there is nothing indicitive of the problem in syslog or messages
[12:41] <_the_1_> bascule: thanks
[12:42] <bascule> np
[12:42] <tjs> its not X, or the wireless card (which I thought at first)
[12:42] <_the_1_> gotta go, I have to restart X and check the new fonts! ;)
[12:43] <bascule> good luck
[12:43] <tjs> I updated the kernel from 2.6.8-1 to 2.6.11-1, still halgs
[12:43] <_the_1_> see you guys and thanks for your help
[12:43] <tjs> er.. hangs
[12:43] <Amaranth> tjs: The entire system hangs?
[12:43] <tjs> totally
[12:43] <tjs> cant even alt-sysreq b
[12:44] <Amaranth> Try booting the kernel with noinotify
[12:44] <tjs> how do I do that?
[12:44] <Amaranth> edit your grub config file or do it from the grub boot menu
[12:45] <regebro> Hi all! Loads of my gnome apps say:  WARNING **: Failed to lock:  No locks available four times when starting upp, with a half a second delay between each.
[12:45] <regebro> Anybody know what that means? I have the feeling it's causing some delay when starting the apps.
[12:46] <tjs> okay booting without inotify
[12:47] <tjs> is the 686 kernel appropriate for a pentium M (whatever that is)
[12:47] <jdub> yes
[12:47] <Amaranth> 686 is good for p2 and up
[12:47] <tjs> cool
[12:48] <regebro> what does "rc-update add nfs default" mean?
[12:49] <sys2> you people dont have a cvsup package? :/
[12:50] <tjs> er.. it seems to be holding up with noinotify
[12:50] <tjs> I'll give it a minute
[12:50] <karim> hi
[12:50] <karim> I plan to upgrade debian to ubuntu
[12:50] <regebro> sys2: No.
[12:50] <karim> I am doing what is in the wiki, however there is broken deps in hoary
[12:50] <regebro> depending on what you mean with "you peopl". I don't. ;)
[12:51] <sys2> well the distro
[12:51] <tjs> Amaranth: doh, it just hung again
[12:51] <Amaranth> tjs: No clue then, that was just a guess.
[12:52] <tjs> okay, thanks
[12:52] <Vaijira> Hi
[12:52] <Vaijira> i have and ibook and i've upgraded to hoary but a lot of icons has dissapeared, any idea?
[12:53] <jdub> Vaijira: known bug on ppc atm
[12:53] <seb128> rm -f /usr/share/icons/*/icon-theme.cache
[12:53] <sjoerd> Vaijira: sudo find /usr/share/icons -type d -exec touch {} \;
[12:53] <regebro> sys2: Hm. Apparently not. It's not in the package manager anyway.
[12:53] <sjoerd> seb128: bah, that's ugly :)
[12:54] <bascule> linux-tree-2.6.11 <-- do I need that or just the linux source, I'm not rebuilding
[12:54] <seb128> sjoerd: that works (tm) :)
[12:54] <sys2> sigh
[12:54] <bascule> linux-headers-2.6.11-1-686 <-- or them
[12:54] <sjoerd> seb128: true
[12:54] <sys2> first its a broken stupid dhcp client .. then i cant install my local package but have to force install from my old distro over to this one ... then the packages i need dont exist
[12:57] <Vaijira> thx
[12:57] <karim> is there a way to downgrade a package without having to uninstall everything that depends of it ?
[12:58] <karim> I just want to replace a package
[12:59] <shock> hello - i have a problem here
[12:59] <regebro> I hate when I seem to be the only one in the world to have a specific computer problem. :-(
[12:59] <shock> anyone using enlightenment on powerpc?
[12:59] <shock> cause it crashes my X
[12:59] <will> is it easy to change my /home dir to hdh1 / (its own partition)
[12:59] <shock> regebro - I know the feeling
[12:59] <shock> yes @ will
[12:59] <shock> fairly easy
[01:00] <shock> er
[01:00] <shock> no wait
[01:00] <shock> WHAT do you want to do?
[01:00] <shock> have / be your home O_o
[01:00] <will> shock is it simply to copy everything to the drive hdh (reiserFS) then specify it in fstab as home?
[01:01] <shock> basically - but it cant be / and /home at the same time
[01:01] <will> my home now is /home and i want to move it to hdh1
[01:02] <will> no sorry i did not mean to write that! (hdh1 / )
[01:02] <will> well what would the correct 'options' be for the new line in fstab?
[01:02] <regebro> Ah, then you move it where you want it, and mount that new place as /home.
 well what would the correct 'options' be for the new line in fstab? mom
[01:03] <will> regebro: are there any special options i should use
[01:03] <shock> .../dev/hda6       /home           ext3    defaults        0       2
[01:04] <shock> well not hda6 ofc
[01:04] <shock> ;)
[01:04] <will> /dev/hdh1	/home		reiserfs		0	0
[01:04] <shock> u forgot the "defaults"
[01:04] <will> /dev/hdh1	/home		reiserfs	defaults	0	0
[01:05] <will> if there is already data there it wont get destroyed i hope? (all my music!)
[01:05] <ICU> are there any limitations on max connections per minute/10 minutes to rsync://archive.ubuntu.com?
 should be ok
[01:06] <shock> I'll try enlightenment again
[01:06] <shock> brb
[01:07] <will> shock: thanks for all the helP! will be back soon
[01:07] <schasi> any germans here?
[01:07] <xx> hello ? i am new in IRC :-) but i need some info for Ubuntu?
[01:07] <bascule> apt-get install gkrellm
[01:07] <bascule> wrong window
[01:08] <bascule> :)
[01:08] <johnnybezak> xx hi
[01:09] <xx> i need help about ... install process in east europe languales?
[01:10] <eazel7> hi, I'm tring to compile koffice cvs, but I cannot because I get a message telling me that KDE requires autoconf 2.53 or newer
[01:10] <eazel7> I have autoconf 2.59 installed, how can I fix that?
[01:10] <sap> i want to mount my usb external hard disk as a normal user (w/o using sudo). i have defaults,user as the options in /etc/fstab, but mount /mnt/usb gives 'mount: must be superuser to use mount'.
[01:11] <sap> i can mount samba shares without using sudo, so i have perms to use mount.
[01:12] <shock> shite!
[01:12] <shock> enlightenment wont work :(
[01:12] <shock> *sniff*
[01:12] <bascule> are you in shock shock?
[01:12] <schasi> ;-)
[01:12] <will> hi when i sudo cp /home/will/ /mnt/temp i get
[01:13] <shock> why?
[01:13] <will> cp: omitting directory `/home/will/'
[01:13] <schasi> woa i own #ubuntu.de
[01:13] <shock> O_o
[01:13] <Amaranth> will: sudo cp -R /home/will /mnt/temp
[01:13] <bagan_jermal> what's sudo?
[01:13] <membreya> ooo bascule new version of the kernel released :D
[01:13] <will> Amaranth: oops of course!
[01:13] <bascule> omnipotence enaler
[01:13] <shock> superuser do -- execute something with root privileges
[01:13] <membreya> 2.6.10-5 :P
[01:14] <bascule> membreya: have you been to see nVidia about it yet?
[01:14] <membreya> bascule: I've posted on the forum
[01:14] <membreya> I can see info
[01:14] <bascule> #nvidia
[01:14] <bagan_jermal> shock: thanks
[01:14] <membreya> and it basically says I need to install amd module
[01:14] <membreya> but that's for nforce2
[01:14] <will> shock: do i have to remove any references to /home being on my first drive before i mount it on hdh1 ?
[01:14] <membreya> ooo good thinking 99!
[01:16] <membreya> oh bascule..do I need to download the source to compile a new kernel or just the tree?
[01:17] <bascule> no idea, I asked that 10 minutes ago .. :))
[01:17] <bascule> OK 21 minutes ago
[01:19] <membreya> bascule: removing the source..will find out :P
[01:20] <membreya> nope
[01:20] <membreya> removing the source also wants to remove the tree :)
[01:20] <rvdb> Hi there, any using an ibook and succesfully using vga out???
[01:21] <Vaijira> rvdb, mmm with ubuntu or in general?
[01:22] <rvdb> i've installed ubuntu hoary on an ibook dual usb (ati rage 128 m3) but i understand it is a general problem...
[01:22] <bascule> membreya: that means kernel sources need abput 90MB in total ...
[01:22] <Vaijira> i have an m3 or an m7 i dont remember well and it worked with a patch a m3mirror
[01:22] <membreya> joy huh bascule ? :P
[01:23] <bascule> man that is sooooo in efficient
[01:23] <Vaijira> rvdb, do you know the programa m3mirror ?
[01:23] <bascule> s/ /
[01:23] <will> it worked!
[01:23] <membreya> hmmm if I go back to /usr/src/linux....do i just need to do another make menuconfig? all my old details should still be there right ?
[01:23] <membreya> hmmm I so need to establish a local caching proxy :|
[01:23] <membreya> but another day!
[01:24] <rvdb> vaijjira, yes i downloaded the m3mirror binary and it does switch off my internal lcd, but still nothing on the external vga (only when starting up)
[01:24] <membreya> hrm...do I need to keep headers on my system for any particular reason ?
[01:25] <Vaijira> rvdb, i applied a patch last time i need vga support in my ibook, currently with ubuntu i don't know if it works or no
[01:25] <xx> hello, has anyone started cyrillic installation?
[01:26] <photoguy41> does anyone know of a good ebook irc room??
[01:26] <rvdb> vaijira, i've seen patches for 2.4 but not for 2.6
[01:27] <Vaijira> rvdb, i'had got the hope that it would run well with 2.6 kernels :)
[01:27] <Vaijira> rvdb, you broke my hopes D:
[01:27] <membreya> oooo vIkSiT you look like a cluey guy :D
[01:28] <AcidWolf> whats the best app under Ubuntu to play dvd's with
[01:28] <rvdb> vaijira: hmmm i never dared to apply a 2.4 patch to a 2.6 kernel, in fact i have only once before build a kernel myself and i'm not too fond of the experience
[01:30] <shock> oh god! if anyone has a clue as to why enlightenment (16.6-3ubuntu1) crashes my x - please query me :( - getting desperate
[01:31] <regebro> OK; so I finally figured it out: Gnome requires exclusive file locking over NFS. Now how the heck to I enable it. Anybody know?
[01:34] <Andy_> is Wine part of "warty"?
[01:35] <pybe-laptop> Andy_: i expect its in the universe
[01:37] <Andy_> pybe_laptop: err...ok heres the deal..i wanna install a game under wine (4 discs)..as i have never used winex can you tell me what command i would use?
[01:39] <error_29> Using metacity in gnome, warty getting this with x-chat: "Unable to set transparent background!You may be using a non-compliant window manager that is not currently supported."  Any ideas?
[01:39] <error_29> I'm sure transparency worked before
[01:43] <photoguy41> has anyone else had trouble installing mplayer from the apt-get?
[01:43] <photoguy41> it says package brokem
[01:43] <photoguy41> n
[01:44] <Underlord> i need to install gstreamer0.8-mad, but it has dependencies on things which are on the system, but since the version names contain ubuntu# on the end (# being whatever number) apt seems to think its not the right version and refuses, if i force it everything works great but aptget gets pissed off and wont install any other packages without automaticaly removing gstreamer0.8-mad! how do i fix?
[01:45] <kirkt> hey all. im trying to get kde for hoary array 5
[01:45] <kirkt> i did basic 'server install', and then ran apt-get for the night
[01:45] <kirkt> it downloaded all the packages, and got stuck on some timeout
[01:46] <kirkt> i can't tell if it did the job, but now everything is screwed
[01:46] <kirkt> apt-get install kde puts out some error lines (kde depends on: ... but package wont be installed)
[01:46] <kirkt> also apt-get clean doesnt seem  to remove anything
[01:47] <kirkt> aptitude seemed to ignore this, but didnt install either
[01:47] <kirkt> can anyone tell me how to reverse the damage?
[01:47] <Riddell> kirkt: what's the error?
[01:47] <da_bon_bon> hi all
[01:47] <da_bon_bon> file-roller opens .rar files ?
[01:48] <kirkt> "the following packages have unmet dependencies"
[01:48] <da_bon_bon> kirkt: which package ?
[01:48] <Goshawk> Underlord, are you using warty or hoary?
[01:48] <kirkt> "kde: Depends: kde-core but it is not going to be installed" etc etc
[01:48] <kirkt> a list of about 10 of those
[01:48] <kirkt> but i can clearly recall aptget downloaded every and each of those
[01:49] <da_bon_bon> kirkt: well, use synaptic
[01:49] <kirkt> i'm doing this thru text
[01:49] <kirkt> i did a base server-install so i wouldn't need to waste time / HDD installing gnome
[01:49] <Riddell> kirkt: apt-get install kde-core?
[01:50] <kirkt> Riddell that spits out another 3 packages
[01:50] <da_bon_bon> kirkt: Riddell is right
[01:50] <kirkt> with same error
[01:50] <Underlord> i believe warty
[01:50] <dripchip> hi there someone familiar with the rpm tool alien ??
[01:50] <Riddell> kirkt: which packages?
[01:50] <dripchip> im trying to install vmware under ubuntu
[01:51] <dripchip> but its an rpm packager
[01:51] <kirkt> arts, kdebase, kdelibs
[01:51] <sh1m> So I have a question regarding ssh on my (very shiney) new Warty install
[01:51] <pybe-laptop> dripchip: alien -i rpmpackage.rpm
[01:51] <da_bon_bon> sh1m: shoot
[01:51] <Underlord> Goshawk, my install cd says 4.10, bim pritty sure its warty
[01:52] <jdub> kirkt: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-base kubuntu-desktop
[01:52] <kirkt> i tried install kdebase, then it gave me lots of errors again
[01:52] <sh1m> when I ssh into some of the sparcs servers at work I can't use clear commands and vi gives me an error about not knowing which terminal i'm on
[01:52] <kirkt> jdub: you sure kubuntu is safe ? i heard they have many problems
[01:52] <pybe-laptop> da_bon_bon: fileroller will do rar if you have unrar installes
[01:52] <jdub> (yikes that installs a lot)
[01:52] <jdub> kirkt: kubuntu is the kde packages
[01:53] <Riddell> kirkt: what are the errors when you install kdebase?
[01:53] <sh1m> I had a scan through the ssh man page but it all seems pretty much like what I am used to, so I can't figure out what's up. Seems pretty slow too, the terminal that is even with compression on
[01:53] <kirkt> Riddell: oh... too many to count.. with some  = { blahblah } synthax
[01:53] <kirkt> many programs
[01:53] <da_bon_bon> pybe-laptop: i have it installed
[01:53] <Underlord> Goshawk, yep, its warty, i stuck the cd in my drive, in the /dists/ directory i see a warty directory but no hoary
[01:53] <kirkt> jdub: i read in a forum that some user did the kde install and it went fine for him
[01:53] <pybe-laptop> da_bon_bon: should work then
[01:53] <da_bon_bon> kirkt: why use kde, in the first place.
[01:53] <da_bon_bon> pybe-laptop: it did. thanks.
[01:54] <Riddell> kirkt: it's hard for me to work out the problem without knowing what the error message is
[01:54] <pybe-laptop> da_bon_bon: =)
[01:54] <kirkt> jdub: however i read in kubuntu forum, that they got still lots of issues
[01:54] <pybe-laptop> kirkt: http://pastebin.com
[01:54] <kirkt> da_bon_bon: for i18n.. qt has better support
[01:54] <Riddell> there's a kubuntu forum?
[01:54] <da_bon_bon> apt-get dist-upgrade shows certain packages to upgrade but updtae-manager does not - why ?
[01:54] <jdub> kirkt: if you're installing kde packages from hoary, you are installing kubuntu
[01:54] <kirkt> Riddell: its some sort of forum in the ubuntu site
[01:54] <kirkt> really jdub?
[01:55] <kirkt> when i did apt-get kde
[01:55] <kirkt> it went and got me the kubuntu packages ?
[01:55] <jdub> kirkt: no, i am just saying it to confuse you (of course it is)
[01:55] <jdub> dude
[01:55] <Riddell> kirkt: is this hoary or warty?
[01:55] <jdub> kubuntu *is* kde
[01:55] <da_bon_bon> isnt update-manager a gui frontend based on synaptic for apt-get dist-*\upgrade ??
[01:55] <kirkt> Riddell hoary array 5
[01:55] <da_bon_bon> jdub: u the same as jdong on the forums ?
[01:56] <jdub> no
[01:56] <da_bon_bon> ok
[01:56] <kirkt> ok then how do i remove the 220mb the apt-get downloaded
[01:56] <kirkt> (apt-get clean) doesnt work
[01:56] <da_bon_bon> kirkt: dont remove it.
[01:57] <shock> oh well.. screw enlightenment, then
[01:57] <shock> *grml*
[01:57] <pybe-laptop> kirkt: apt-get clean all
[01:57] <kirkt> kubuntu-base: Depends kde  but it is not going to be installed =(
[01:57] <ctr> good affternoon, how can I, by hand setup networking
[01:57] <kirkt> jdub: see the error ?
[01:57] <ctr> the machine never boots the networking stuff correctly
[01:57] <pybe-laptop> ctr: man ifconfig
[01:58] <kirkt> [kubuntu-desktop: Depends kde  but it is not going to be installed]  that is
[01:58] <da_bon_bon> kirkt: apt-get install kubuntu
[01:58] <Underlord> ooooh, i fixed it, nvm, i was loading a hoary repository from warty
[01:58] <kirkt> couldnt find package kubuntu
[01:59] <da_bon_bon> oh, sorry
[01:59] <ctr> pybe-laptop: where are the setup scripts and the settings read from ?
[01:59] <ctr> pybe-laptop: I know how to use ifconfig
[01:59] <Riddell> I don't recomment kubuntu-desktop currently
[01:59] <pybe-laptop> ctr: iirc /etc/networking
[01:59] <da_bon_bon> how do i install the "suggested packages" told by apt-get ?
[01:59] <ctr> ok
[01:59] <kirkt> Ribs what can i do to get kde then
[01:59] <kirkt> Riddell
[01:59] <shock> question: what is the slimmest, nicest and hastes wm?
[01:59] <shock> fastest
[01:59] <shock> :P
[02:00] <kirkt> shock try XFCE
[02:00] <pybe-laptop> shock: fluxbox
[02:00] <Riddell> kirkt: apt-get install kdebase and tell me what the error is
[02:00] <pybe-laptop> shock: XFCE4 from backports is really nice
[02:01] <da_bon_bon> pybe-laptop: on warty ?
[02:01] <pybe-laptop> da_bon_bon: yes in ubuntu backports
[02:01] <da_bon_bon> pybe-laptop: ah, ok..
[02:01] <da_bon_bon> how do i install the "suggested packages" told by apt-get ?
[02:01] <kirkt> kdebase: depends : kappfilter (>= 4:3.3.2-1ubuntu6
[02:01] <kirkt> ) but it is not going to be installed
[02:01] <pybe-laptop> da_bon_bon: http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[02:02] <kirkt> Riddell there are about 20 of those
[02:02] <shock> fluxbox - hm... might go for that
[02:02] <da_bon_bon> pybe-laptop: i know. i am on hoary.
[02:02] <pybe-laptop> da_bon_bon: either copy and paste them or iirc there is a setting to install them by default as if they were deps
[02:02] <shock> xfce4 ... dunno - maybe without the panel - wich is f*ugly
[02:03] <pybe-laptop> shock: change the theme/icons etc
[02:03] <da_bon_bon> pybe-laptop: whats iirc ? and i know how to add repos. of backports.
[02:03] <da_bon_bon> pybe-laptop: and i dont need backports coz i am on hoary
[02:03] <pybe-laptop> da_bon_bon: iirc = if i remeber correctly
[02:03] <kirkt> Riddell: actually, nothing would install (i just tried xfce)
 - tried... the panel remains ugly, clumsy-looking
[02:03] <shock> :P
[02:04] <shock> but thats a personal opinion
[02:04] <da_bon_bon> kirkt: u have a thing or two against GNOME really, dont you ?
[02:04] <pybe-laptop> shock: try fluxbox them
[02:04] <pybe-laptop> s/them/then
[02:04] <Riddell> kirkt: how about kdelibs?
[02:04] <kirkt> da_bon_bon: yes.. it just doesnt provide that many applications for my native language, and the group who develop the language support for my language do it mainly on kde
[02:05] <da_bon_bon> kirkt: which lang. ?
[02:05] <shock> yeah... i will... as soon as my rip is done
[02:05] <shock> :P
[02:05] <kirkt> Riddell: depends kdelibs4 but it is not going to be installed ...
[02:05] <kirkt> da_bon_bon: hebrew
[02:06] <regebro> Truly, I can NOT believe that I was the only one to have that file locking problem.... DAMN it was hard to find!
[02:06] <da_bon_bon> kirkt: oh ok.
[02:06] <regebro> But easy to fix: Remember this y'all: If you use nfs you should install the nfs-common package. It's not required for nfs, but you NEED it.
[02:07] <da_bon_bon> regebro: thanks. why not write it up on the wiki ?
[02:07] <kirkt> Riddell: should i kill the partition and try again for another 5 hours ? =|
[02:07] <regebro> Good idea da_bon_bon-
[02:07] <Riddell> kirkt: and when you apt-get install kdelibs4?
[02:08] <Echylo> yay
[02:08] <kirkt> not available but has been refered by another package ....
[02:08] <Echylo> my provider gives away a free game
[02:08] <Echylo> every month from now on
[02:08] <Echylo> :D
[02:08] <kirkt> packages kdelibs4 has no installable candidates
[02:10] <photoguy41> what codec pack do i need for divx?
[02:10] <Riddell> kirkt: now that is bizare
[02:10] <Riddell> kirkt: what is in your /etc/apt/sources.list?  universe?
[02:10] <da_bon_bon> kirkt: ah, well.. your bad day!
[02:10] <kirkt> Riddell: i've removed the # mark from all lines
[02:10] <da_bon_bon> kirkt: bad idea.
[02:11] <kirkt> i've left the restricated off
[02:11] <kirkt> i think
[02:11] <photoguy41> can someone tell me?
[02:11] <da_bon_bon> kirkt: enable /all/ repos
[02:11] <kirkt> da_bon_bon in the process of solving this i enabled, disabled, enabled.. etc
[02:11] <kirkt> all repositories
[02:13] <kirkt> ok i enabled all repos
[02:13] <kirkt> and ran the commands Riddell told me so far
[02:13] <kirkt> same results
[02:14] <JDigital> Hey, anyone know why my avi files aren't playing too well? I get an error of the type "Your system is too SLOW to play this!"
[02:14] <da_bon_bon> kirkt: your sources.list must be like this - http://rafb.net/paste/results/xvt2D318.html
[02:14] <Riddell> kirkt: done apt-get update?
[02:15] <regebro> da_bon_bon: Where do you think it should be on the Wiki? FAQs?
[02:15] <Riddell> JDigital: sounds like your system is too slow
[02:15] <membreya> well here goes for round #2 of kernel making :)
[02:15] <da_bon_bon> regebro: FAQs
[02:15] <JDigital> It's 1.25GHz
[02:15] <JDigital> I'd have assumed that to be enough
[02:15] <JDigital> to play a 640*480 video
[02:15] <da_bon_bon> membreya: u r compiling your own kernel
[02:15] <da_bon_bon> ?
[02:15] <da_bon_bon> regebro: make your own page - NFS
[02:15] <JDigital> although, I had trouble of video skipping in Windows too
[02:15] <JDigital> except when I used Winamp
[02:15] <JDigital> oddly
[02:16] <kirkt> da_bon_bon im checking
[02:16] <JDigital> must be my graphics card not set right
[02:16] <JDigital> or sound maybe
[02:17] <kirkt> da_bon_bon except for the last lines it is the same
[02:17] <regebro> da_bon_bon: Nah, I'll put it up under common problems, really. "install nfs-common" is not something you could call an NFS FAQ or Howto,exactly. ;)
[02:17] <kirkt> i think i just kill the install and thats it
[02:17] <kirkt> too much time wasting
[02:18] <regebro> Besides, I want to introduce the error message in a natural way.
[02:18] <kirkt> i'll dd the disk when base install is finished and then i could try again and again
[02:18] <kirkt> instead of running whole install again
[02:18] <kirkt> too bad i cant just fix the dependency hell that aptget created
[02:19] <JDigital> Ah, it's only when I do -fs -zoom (full screen)
[02:19] <JDigital> wonder why that is
[02:20] <JDigital> too much graphics at once? Too much CPU used to stretch it?
[02:20] <photoguy41> can someone help me get divx avi's working?
[02:20] <kirkt> lol
[02:21] <kirkt> i just read a some people told a guy to RTFM
[02:21] <JDigital> There's a page about it on the wiki
[02:21] <kirkt> and he told them 'why do fucking have to do with ubuntu'
[02:21] <JDigital> install mplayer
[02:21] <photoguy41> i did
[02:21] <JDigital> o
[02:22] <JDigital> install the mp3 support
[02:22] <photoguy41> ive installed all the codecs
[02:22] <JDigital> odd
[02:22] <JDigital> mplayer plays everything for me
[02:22] <photoguy41> i tried to install a skin, but nothings working
[02:22] <JDigital> use gmplayer
[02:22] <JDigital> it's mplayer with buttons and stuff
[02:22] <photoguy41> gmplayer?
[02:23] <JDigital> also have you tried searching in the website yet
[02:23] <JDigital> gmplayer is an alias for mplayer
[02:23] <photoguy41> yeah
[02:23] <JDigital> but with controls
[02:23] <JDigital> hm, worked for me
[02:23] <JDigital> except video fulllscreen is laggy
[02:23] <JDigital> my computer isn't that underpowered, is it?
[02:23] <photoguy41> when i run mplayer (filename), it only plays a sec of sound and no video
[02:24] <photoguy41> then quits
[02:24] <JDigital> odd
[02:24] <JDigital> have you tried othe files
[02:24] <JDigital> other
[02:24] <photoguy41> no
[02:24] <photoguy41> when i run it in totem, it plays the sound but no video
[02:24] <JDigital> same here
[02:24] <JDigital> which is why I use mplayer :)
[02:24] <da_bon_bon> kirkt: still, just copy paste
[02:24] <photoguy41> yeah, figures
[02:25] <kirkt> da_bon_bon: im just gonna do it again and save a snapshop of the base install to a CD
[02:25] <kirkt> this way i'll play safe
[02:25] <kirkt> (its only 300mb)
[02:26] <kirkt> da_bon_bon besides i'm running hoary, this paste is warthy
[02:28] <da_bon_bon> kirkt: its not warty
[02:28] <da_bon_bon> its hoary
[02:28] <da_bon_bon> i am on hoary too
[02:28] <kirkt> i see.. well ok when the install would finish i'd put that in
[02:28] <kirkt> thx
[02:28] <membreya> da_bon_bon: yup compiling my own
[02:29] <da_bon_bon> membreya: why ?
[02:30] <bretzel> Hi all :-) I see .../hoary/array-5 is finally set 8-)
[02:30] <Nermal> boop
[02:31] <membreya> da_bon_bon: clean things up and get the right modules loaded
[02:31] <membreya> plus ive been running a week
[02:31] <membreya> time to screw it up
[02:32] <da_bon_bon> membreya: ah, ok.. what clean up ? are your hand compiled kernels faster ??
[02:32] <membreya> never tried da_bon_bon :P
[02:34] <photoguy41> grrrrr linux can be so screwy somtimes
[02:34] <Echylo> lol
[02:37] <da_bon_bon> bye a
[02:37] <da_bon_bon> all
[02:37] <da_bon_bon> cya later
[02:43] <nanomad> it's saf to upgrade ubuntu at this time?
[02:43] <njan> nanomad, didn't break for me(r)
[02:43] <nanomad> thx
[02:44] <tritium> nanomad, should be quite safe.  We're post feature freeze now on Hoary.
[02:46] <apokryphos> Does Ubuntu install OpenGL somewhere peculiar? I've got all the GL packages/libs from the repository, but don't seem to have a /usr/lib/libGL
[02:46] <Xappe> hmm, getting lockups when logging into gnome with the new 2.6.10-4-k7
[02:47] <tritium> apokryphos, look for your xlibmesa-* packages
[02:47] <tritium> and use dpkg -L to list their contents
[02:48] <JDigital> Aha. My CPU maxes out when I mplayer something fullscreen
[02:48] <JDigital> Anyone know why?
[02:48] <evarlast> JDigital: mplayer uses software resizing.  Mine does the same thing.
[02:49] <JDigital> Figures.
[02:49] <JDigital> Is mplayer inefficient CPU-wise or the like?
[02:49] <apokryphos> tritium: Hm, yeah, I seem to have all the necessary stuff there. This is really weird. Should it not install things to /usr/lib/libGL?
[02:49] <JDigital> Or is my 1.25Ghz machine too slow?
[02:49] <apokryphos> tritium: Since, that's where this install is looking for it (in the make)
[02:49] <evarlast> JDigital: I don't really know.  I only know of hte problem :(
[02:50] <JDigital> :(
[02:50] <JDigital> I've had video skips under Windows too. The only video player that's never given me problems is Winamp
[02:50] <JDigital> so I'm guessing maybe it's more efficient
[02:50] <johnnybezak> guys i want to set up mail so that i can use the mail program to send emails to my actual email rather than just to my user, I wrote the email in /etc/aliases, and ran newaliases, so I think thats setup. I just need to know where I write in my smtp address so that the mail can be sent. where is the config file for this?
[02:51] <Goshawk> is there soemone that uses gnomebaker here?
[02:51] <tritium> apokryphos, there is stuff in /usr/lib
[02:52] <tritium> dpkg -L xlibmesa-gl shows that libGL.so.1 is in /usr/lib, for example
[02:53] <apokryphos> Hm, so it is.
[02:53] <tritium> apokryphos, if you're building stuff, you probably want xlibmesa-dev package
[02:54] <apokryphos> tritium: I've got the Mesa OpenGL utility library development file; does that cover it?
[02:54] <apokryphos> (the error I'm gettting: http://pastebin.com/245396 )
[02:55] <Echylo> anyone has/uses terragen here?
[02:55] <Echylo> and has the .exe
[02:55] <tritium> apokryphos, what's the package name?
[02:55] <apokryphos> kdebase
[02:57] <tritium> looks like you might be missing an X dev. library of some kind.
[02:57] <apokryphos> Oh
[02:57] <apokryphos> Yeah, libGL is indeed here. Ergh; misread it.
[02:59] <Medrakil> after installing, how do i update everything? is it apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[02:59] <apokryphos> tritium: what package am I looking to get?
[02:59] <tritium> apokryphos, I'm not sure.
[02:59] <tritium> here's one of your errors: http://www.xfree86.org/4.0.1/XF86VidMode.3.html
[03:00] <s-gen> where's the flex package??!! Got bison(++) in universe but no flex.
[03:01] <tritium> apokryphos, I would just try installing libx11-dev
[03:02] <apokryphos> tritium: I seem to have that installed
[03:02] <tritium> Well, I'm not sure then
[03:02] <apokryphos> have everything *x11* it seems
[03:03] <apokryphos> alright, no worries. I'll keep searching.
[03:03] <apokryphos> tritium: is that not xfree stuff?
[03:03] <tritium> looks to be
[03:03] <apokryphos> While, I don't have that installed. Got xorg.
[03:04] <apokryphos> Odd that I should get an xfree error considering
[03:04] <tritium> or perhaps it's precisely because you don't have it
[03:04] <tritium> but I don't do any X11 devel.
[03:05] <apokryphos> I don't think so.. the package certainly doesn't require xfree
[03:05] <tritium> sorry.  I don't know then.
[03:05] <apokryphos> No worries. :) Thanks.
[03:05] <BeTa> hi, I run ubuntu on a PowerBook Alu since some months and it already hangs (totally, I tink seriously it's a kernel space problem) randomly. I've suspected temperature, this is not the problem (I've tweak /sys/ for -10c). Then I've suspected cpu frequency scalling (I don't know the tool used on PPC to manage that) or battery/power (when the battery or the power were disconnected, it runs better, but it doesn't seem to be an other thing than hazard). does a
[03:07] <apokryphos> ( tritium: Sorry I'm draggin this on, but I see the xfree86-common is still installed (tells me I can safely remove it. Do you think there's a change that might be causing the problem? No problem if you don't know. )
[03:08] <tritium> apokryphos, no, I don't see anything wrong with that.
[03:09] <apokryphos> k
[03:09] <shock> hat hier einer ahung von ati und glx?
[03:10] <tritium> shock, #ubuntu-de ?
[03:11] <shock> oh sorry
[03:11] <Echylo> can it be that the servers are extremely slow?
[03:11] <shock> anyone here pro on ati + glx
[03:12] <scizzo> shock: don't ask about a sertain someone....just tell us the problem
[03:14] <shock> float rendertarget with radeon 9800pro using the fglrx driver (or any other that supports glsl ;)
[03:14] <shock> howto
[03:14] <shock> :)
[03:17] <|QuaD-> how long until we get beagle?
[03:18] <welly> hey all.. whats the deal with kubuntu? is this going to be an official fork/split/development?
[03:19] <jdub> welly: it's one of our first derivatives
[03:20] <welly> oh ok.. excellent. i'm warming to gnome so i'll probably stick with ubuntu but will no doubt have to take a look at the kde release
[03:21] <LaurenceRowe> Hi, I'm having problems with my dual-head nvidia set up. I have to use the 'NoBandwidthCheck' option to get my two (1280x1024) screens to work, but I get interference on the second screen. Any idea if anything can be done?
[03:22] <Echylo> ftp program in ubuntu?
[03:22] <Echylo> loool
[03:23] <evarlast> Echylo: alt-f2, type ftp url :)
[03:23] <Echylo> I want to upload
[03:23] <LaurenceRowe> just use nautilus file manager
[03:23] <welly> echylo, you can upload with "ftp", surely!
[03:23] <Echylo> ?
[03:24] <Echylo> I know
[03:24] <Echylo> I don't
[03:24] <Echylo> but I'll learn
[03:24] <Echylo> when I have some spare time
[03:24] <Echylo> same for vi
[03:25] <Echylo> can it be that update is verry slow
[03:27] <Echylo> or is it my i-net
[03:28] <Echylo> nvm
[03:28] <Echylo> smallband
[03:28] <welly> not sure.. seems quick enough this end
[03:29] <Echylo> gonna kill it
[03:29] <welly> but we've got a big fat pipe
[03:29] <Echylo> it's my inet
[03:29] <Echylo> it dropped speed cause I exceeded my download limit
[03:29] <Echylo> stupid belgium
[03:29] <Nermal> they make nice chocolate
[03:29] <LinuxJones> :)
[03:30] <Echylo> yes but they have providers who suck
[03:30] <Echylo> 10gig download in a month
[03:30] <welly> we do alright :) free.fr - 15mb uncapped adsl for 30 a month
[03:30] <Echylo> then they drop speed from 400kbs to 12kbs
[03:31] <adnans> no such rubbish here, xs4all recently declared unlimited downloads i.e. goodbye FUP or capping :)
[03:31] <welly> oh, it seems free.fr offer 20mb now :)
[03:32] <welly> c'est une vie dure
[03:32] <Echylo> ah
[03:32] <Echylo> netherlands are lucky
[03:32] <Echylo> they download whatever they want
[03:33] <Medrakil> is it possible to get mplayer using apt-get or do i have to compile it?
[03:33] <Nermal> sure
[03:33] <Nermal> apt-get it
[03:33] <Nermal> but you may have to add some more repositories to get w32codecs and all that
[03:34] <Medrakil> yeah ok
[03:34] <Medrakil> Package mplayer is a virtual package provided by:
[03:34] <Medrakil>   mplayer-nogui 1:1.0-pre6-woody0.2
[03:34] <Medrakil>   mplayer-k6 1:1.0-pre6-woody0.2
[03:34] <Medrakil>   mplayer-586 1:1.0-pre6-woody0.2
[03:34] <Medrakil>   mplayer-386 1:1.0-pre6-woody0.2
[03:34] <Medrakil>   mplayer-custom 1:1.0-pre5-0.6ubuntu1
[03:34] <Medrakil> You should explicitly select one to install.
[03:34] <Medrakil> for real, now what?
[03:35] <Medrakil> oh, i saw it now... sorry about the paste flood
[03:35] <Nermal> Medrakil: add these to your sources.list
[03:35] <Nermal>  deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ stable main
[03:35] <Nermal> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ unstable main
[03:35] <Nermal> deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ testing main
[03:35] <Nermal> and then do an apt-get update
[03:36] <pjharper> Hi I am having difficulty getting ndiswrapper to work
[03:36] <pjharper> with hoary
[03:36] <Nermal> then do apt-get install mplayer-586 I guess
[03:36] <Medrakil> i think i have them already, i read this guide-thingy at ubuntuguide.org
[03:36] <Nermal> pjharper: whats the problem ?
[03:36] <pjharper> sudo modprobe ndiswrapper gives me: FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[03:37] <Medrakil>  mplayer-586: Depends: libarts (>= 4:2.2.2-1) but it is not installable or
[03:37] <Medrakil>                         libarts-alsa (>= 4:2.2.2-1) but it is not installable
[03:37] <Medrakil>                Depends: libdvdread2 but it is not installable
[03:37] <Medrakil>                Depends: libvorbis0 (>= 1.0rc3-1) but it is not installable
[03:38] <pjharper> ndiswrapper -l
[03:38] <pjharper> Installed ndis drivers:
[03:38] <pjharper> bcmwl5  driver present, hardware present
[03:38] <Medrakil> Nermal, now what?
[03:38] <pjharper> Sorry if that was a flood.
[03:40] <Mitario> anyone knows if there is an utf8 char for a 'bullet' icon, as in, []  or *
[03:40] <housetier>
[03:42] <pjharper> Anybody have any idea why this should be so difficult?
[03:43] <housetier> Medrakil yesterday (or before that) I heard that the merillat repository is broken, I can neither confirm nor deny it though
[03:43] <housetier> Medrakil however compiling mplayer yourself is not that difficult
[03:44] <Nermal> Medrakil: I told you
 then do apt-get install mplayer-586 I guess
[03:45] <pjharper> I got a funny thing with merlillat today as well
[03:46] <pjharper> GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907
[03:46] <membreya> Nermal: ...when you're compiling things, you don;t need to worry about the deprecated messages right ?
[03:47] <apokryphos> pjharper: don't worry aobut that.
[03:48] <pjharper> Can anybody tell me why sudo modprobe ndiswrapper failed if it is finding the driver?
[03:48] <oz_> Anyone know why totem crashes when seeking forward/back playing mp3's?
[03:48] <Nermal> membreya: no... thats for the program writer too :)
[03:48] <Nermal> pjharper: dmesg ?
[03:49] <pjharper> Standby Nermal
[03:49] <membreya> damn you Nermal
[03:50] <membreya> I'm compiling a kernel here!
[03:50] <membreya> stop beating me to answers
[03:50] <no0tic> I just read that <country>.archive.ubuntu.com mirrors are up for hoary, they are also updated frequently?
[03:50] <membreya> pjharper: just do a tail dmesg :)
[03:50] <monkey89> no0tic, some just refer to the main pool
[03:50] <t31> someone knows how to add to gdesklet starterbar the wastebasket and the window selector_
[03:50] <monkey89> im sure any mirror is updated somewhat frequently though to be accepted into the pool
[03:50] <t31> ?
[03:50] <no0tic> monkey89: do you know the state of "it" mirror?
[03:51] <pjharper> sudo tail dmesg?
[03:51] <monkey89> not offhand no, but browse through and see, im sure its pretty up-to-date
[03:51] <membreya> pjharper: just tail dmesg :)
[03:51] <monkey89> don't you have to do dmesg | tail
[03:51] <no0tic> ok, thanks
[03:51] <Nermal> or a tail -f /var/log/messages
[03:51] <membreya> woops my bad Nermal
[03:51] <membreya> playing around with cat and tail
[03:51] <membreya> all night
[03:51] <membreya> 1 1/2 hours sleep last nite
[03:51] <membreya> another 5 or 6 tonight at this rate
[03:52] <membreya> :'(
[03:52] <membreya> I gotta stop answering questions
[03:52] <membreya> dear god what am I doing compiling a kernel on this much sleep!
[03:52] <pjharper> I've done both what am I looking for in the log?
[03:52] <membreya> gutten tag!
[03:52] <membreya> pjharper: just the last line :)
[03:52] <azeem> anybody know what gam_server is and why it's eating my CPU cycles?
[03:52] <tritium> See you membreya
[03:52] <membreya> i see you too tritium !
[03:52] <membreya> oh ..you're going :(
[03:53] <tritium> You are too, aren't you?
[03:53] <tritium> getting some sleep?
[03:53] <membreya> nope :)
[03:53] <membreya> compiling a kernel
[03:53] <pjharper> Feb 23 15:35:13 localhost polypaudio[4528] : module.c: Unloaded "module-alsa-sink" (index: #12).
[03:53] <membreya> long enough to watching my pc not boot
[03:53] <tritium> you're crazy!
[03:53] <tritium> heh
[03:53] <membreya> damnit
[03:53] <membreya> I left all these devicesi n the kernel
[03:53] <membreya> tat's what i get
[03:53] <membreya> it's like the 4th time ive configured it
[03:54] <tritium> Okay. good luck.  Bye.
[03:54] <membreya> ciao ciao :)
[03:54] <azeem> ah, gamin.
[03:55] <pjharper> I did sudo modprobe ndiswrapper then tail -f /var/log/messages I get the module-alsa-sink message each time
[03:56] <Matrix_Soul> hi
[03:56] <membreya> hiya matrix :)
[03:56] <Abusive> hello , i have a question , if i have mysql installed with php4... how do i create a user on the mysql database?
[03:56] <oz_> use mysql-admin
[03:57] <Matrix_Soul> anybody knows how to change the menu and submenus in applications with hoary???
[03:57] <oz_> Abusive: apt-get install mysql-admin if you don't have it installed
[03:57] <Abusive> oz: how
[03:57] <Abusive> ?
[03:57] <Abusive> ok.
[03:57] <membreya> Matrix_Soul: gnome bug
[03:57] <Matrix_Soul> ok, then I cant???
[03:57] <Medrakil> what are the "suggested" packages i get when i apt-get something? should i get them, even if i don't know what they are?
[03:58] <Abusive> root@ubuntu:~ # apt-get install mysql-admin
[03:58] <Abusive> Reading Package Lists... Done
[03:58] <Abusive> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[03:58] <Abusive> E: Couldn't find package mysql-admin
[03:58] <membreya> i believe there's some workarounds out there..but i would just wait for the next stable release of gnome
[03:58] <pjharper> Do I need to apt-get something to make the modeprobe work?
[03:58] <meuserj|work> I'm sorry if this has already been addressed.. but I have a big problem with Hoary right now....
[03:59] <membreya> suo meuserj|work ?
[03:59] <Abusive> oz_, ?
[03:59] <Nermal> pjharper: depmod -a
[03:59] <membreya> i so should have checked my compile better :(
[03:59] <meuserj|work> I'm running the latest of everything.. just upgraded the kernel to 2.6.10-4
[03:59] <membreya> what broke meuserj|work ? :P
[03:59] <membreya> lo Echylo :)
[03:59] <oz_> Abusive: hmm.. enable the universe (?) repository
[03:59] <pjharper> depmod -a ndiswraper?
[03:59] <meuserj|work> and now when I try to log in to GNOME, gam_server causes a Kernel panic and hardlocks my computer
[03:59] <pjharper> sic
[03:59] <Abusive> oz: its enabled
[03:59] <principerobot> Hi linuxiani....
[03:59] <principerobot> :-)
[04:00] <Nermal> pjharper: no.. just depmod -a
[04:00] <principerobot> I have a little problem
[04:00] <Echylo> heey :)
[04:00] <principerobot> can you help me?
[04:00] <Abusive> anyway .. dost it need to .. enable something in apt?
[04:00] <Abusive> tell me how , then
[04:00] <Nermal> principerobot: say problem
[04:00] <principerobot> :-)
[04:00] <no0tic> principerobot: are you italian?
[04:00] <principerobot> thx
[04:00] <principerobot> yes
[04:00] <principerobot> I' m italian
[04:00] <principerobot> why?
[04:00] <no0tic> principerobot: c' il canale ubuntu-it
[04:00] <no0tic> principerobot: :)
[04:00] <principerobot> :-)
[04:00] <oz_> Abusive: have a quick look under synaptic.
[04:00] <principerobot> poca gente
[04:00] <principerobot> :-)
[04:01] <Abusive> i cant find nothing with synaptic .. i mean not for mysql admin
[04:01] <Abusive> and i have enabled
[04:01] <Abusive> everything..
[04:01] <no0tic> principerobot: right, tell the problem
[04:01] <pjharper> Nermal, nothing happened
[04:01] <Nermal> pjharper: well.. did it return you to the command line ?
[04:01] <Nermal> without any output ?
[04:01] <oz_> Abusive: there is a dash between mysql and admin ie: "mysql-admin"
[04:01] <pjharper> yes
[04:01] <Abusive> oz: .. i know
[04:01] <Nermal> then it completed it's task successfully
[04:02] <meuserj|work> umm.. anyone have any clue about my problem?  It's pretty urgent...
[04:02] <Nermal> why people expect every app to yell "I completed what my design specification requires me to!" is beyond me
[04:02] <oz_> Abusive: are you on hoary or warty
[04:02] <Abusive> no package found with the name mysql-admin , so i tried without the -
[04:02] <Nermal> it's expected that an app with perform correctly under linux
[04:02] <Abusive> no
[04:02] <principerobot> how can I send file via bluetooth from my nokia 6600 to my ubuntu?
[04:02] <Nermal> most only produce output if something goes wrong
[04:03] <Blissex> principerobot: you got to install the BlueTooth package.
[04:04] <principerobot> I have done it
[04:04] <Echylo> any has the terragen exe instead of the msi file in here?
[04:04] <oz_> Abusive: are you running hoary or warty?
[04:04] <meuserj|work> hello?
[04:04] <meuserj|work> anyone?
[04:04] <Echylo> or does anybody knows where to get it
[04:04] <Echylo> hell meuserj
[04:04] <Abusive> i dont know what's that .. hoary or warty
[04:04] <Echylo> hello*
[04:04] <principerobot> The problem is that I have modified the config file /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf
[04:04] <Echylo> reinstall gnome meuserj?
[04:05] <Echylo> or is that too radical
[04:05] <pjharper> Nermal if ndiswrapper detects my driver what do you think may be the problem with the modprobe.
[04:05] <membreya> time to kill my pc
[04:05] <membreya> mwuahahahah!
[04:05] <Nermal> dmesg should tell you
[04:05] <Echylo> lol
[04:05] <oz_> Abusive: the ubuntu version you are running.
[04:05] <Echylo> what's wrong membreya
[04:05] <Echylo> ok then
[04:05] <Abusive> i just dont know
[04:06] <thoreauputic> Abusive: type  ` cat /etc/issue` in a terminal
[04:07] <thoreauputic> without the backquotes
[04:07] <Abusive> Ubuntu 4.10 "Warty Warthog"
[04:07] <pjharper> Nermal, it just talks about module-alsa-sink not about ndiswrapper
[04:07] <thoreauputic> Abusive: OK you have Warty :)
[04:07] <Abusive> oky :D
[04:07] <sigglet> why is dvdrecord forked in ubuntu?
[04:08] <Echylo> pray all for 5 minutes
[04:08] <Abusive> so oz?
[04:08] <sigglet> they broke it
[04:08] <sigglet> and you have to patch it
[04:08] <principerobot> Can you help me?
[04:08] <sigglet> sucks
[04:08] <pjharper> I upgraded to hoary. I thought it had ndiswrapper builtin
[04:08] <oz_> Anyone know where mysql-admin lives in warty? it should be in universe...
[04:08] <Echylo> just pray
[04:08] <Echylo> keep it on
[04:09] <Echylo> keep it
[04:09] <dstevens> How would i go about creating a new Theme for Ubuntu, have found how to install new theme, but 'howto' create the theme spec.
[04:09] <Echylo> steady
[04:09] <jono> hi all
[04:09] <sigglet> dstevens: for kde or gnome?
[04:09] <dstevens> sigglet: yup gnome vanilla ubuntu.
[04:09] <sigglet> http://art.gnome.org should have a howto
[04:10] <oz_> Abusive: have you done a apt-get update?
[04:10] <Abusive> can someone please tell me how to add a user to the mysql data base?
[04:10] <Abusive> no
[04:10] <principerobot> I need to send file from my phone to my linux...
[04:10] <principerobot> How can I do it?
[04:10] <sigglet> Abusive: #mysql
[04:10] <Abusive> ok.
[04:10] <thoreauputic> Abusive: try typing apt-cache search mysql (you have universe repo enabled?)
[04:10] <oz_> from a terminal session sudo apt-get update
[04:10] <dstevens> sigglet: cheers mate !
[04:10] <principerobot> Hey people?
[04:10] <principerobot> can you help me please?
[04:11] <principerobot> :-(
[04:11] <thoreauputic> Abusive: yes, #mysql sounds a good plan
[04:11] <oz_> Abusive: that should update your cache so you can download it.
[04:11] <Abusive> wow
[04:11] <dstevens> principerobot: From your phone? bluetooth
[04:11] <Abusive> 99999 with mysql
[04:11] <Abusive> LD
[04:12] <pjharper> I've tried following this but it doesn't work
[04:12] <principerobot> 6600
[04:12] <principerobot> nokia
[04:12] <pjharper> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/howto/ndiswrapper
[04:12] <Abusive> usermin-mysql - A mysql module for the usermin web-based administration tool
[04:12] <oz_> Abusive: how are you doing there?
[04:12] <Abusive> webmin-mysql - mysql-server control module for webmin
[04:12] <Abusive> isnt this good?
[04:12] <Abusive> oz?
[04:12] <Abusive> i updated it , but no mysql-admin
[04:13] <membreya> well that failed
[04:13] <membreya> should I use an initrd?
[04:13] <bascule> mysql-admin - GUI tool for intuitive MySQL administration <-- i got it
[04:13] <bascule> membreya: what failed
[04:13] <thoreauputic> Abusive: don't know exactly what you want : what about mysqlcc - The official GUI interface for MySQL
[04:13] <Abusive> where?
[04:14] <membreya> kernel panic
[04:14] <membreya> vfs
[04:14] <membreya> again
[04:14] <principerobot> hey...
[04:14] <Abusive> i want to add a user to the mysql database
[04:14] <principerobot> :-(
[04:14] <membreya> i made ext3 *
[04:14] <Abusive> to have a user and a password and a database for my php nuke
[04:14] <Abusive> (website sistem)
[04:14] <DrDik> hey!  Anyone know when my ubuntu laptop crashes my I output to a monitor but it didn't when I used RH9.0 (gasp!)
[04:14] <bascule> membreya: what fs is / ?
[04:15] <membreya> ext3
[04:15] <membreya> when it boots
[04:15] <membreya> it says it can't locate sda3
[04:15] <Abusive> bascule : can you tell me where to download mysql-admin?
[04:15] <membreya> which is my /
[04:15] <pjharper> There must be something seriously wrong with that how-to
[04:15] <bascule> Abusive: apt-get install mysql-admin
[04:15] <meuserj|work> I figured out my gam_server hardlock problem.. sort of
[04:15] <membreya> Abusive: its in the repos
[04:15] <bascule> membreya: you need SATA modules in as * as well tehn
[04:16] <meuserj|work> there is something wrong with the 2.6.10-4 stock Hoary kernel
[04:16] <meuserj|work> has anyone else tried that kernel?
[04:16] <Abusive> i dont have it , why!?>??
[04:16] <scy_ubuntu> hi
[04:16] <Abusive> root@ubuntu:~ # apt-get install mysql-admin
[04:16] <Abusive> Reading Package Lists... Done
[04:16] <Abusive> Building Dependency Tree... Done
[04:16] <Abusive> E: Couldn't find package mysql-admin
[04:16] <Abusive> root@ubuntu:~ #
[04:16] <thoreauputic> membreya: he has warty: no such package in warty
[04:16] <membreya> oh
[04:16] <membreya> hi thoreauputic :)
[04:17] <thoreauputic> Abusive: it isn't in warty
[04:17] <scy_ubuntu> what is the root-passwd for the ubuntu-livecd? i tried to change it with sudo, but sudo crashes with an error
[04:17] <thoreauputic> Abusive: probably under a different name
[04:17] <Abusive> why not ? :(
[04:17] <scy_ubuntu> Abusive, apt-cache search
[04:17] <Abusive> so i cant create a username and pass and a database?
[04:17] <Abusive> sucky thing ..
[04:18] <meuserj|work> Abusive, check out phpmyadmin.... very complete and easy to use
[04:18] <thoreauputic> Abusive: of course you can - it just requires you find out how
[04:18] <bascule> yes you can, i don't kniow the querys off hand, but it can be done
[04:18] <membreya> Abusive: have you tried mysqladmin all one word in apt-cache search?
[04:18] <Abusive> meuserj|work : can i create a username and pass and database on mysql ?
[04:18] <dstevens> Yup and phpmyadmin ship to connect with username='root' password='' so it should be good for you.
[04:18] <meuserj|work> Abusive, yes
[04:18] <Abusive> ok. let me see.
[04:19] <bascule> of course you can, if not mysql would depend on mysql-admin
[04:19] <Medrakil> anyone know how to install ATI drivers?
[04:19] <bascule> <-- done it with php scriot
[04:19] <bascule> not the ati drivers though =)
[04:19] <thoreauputic> membreya: I see you have been quite active on the mailing list ;)
[04:19] <Abusive> i cant install it
[04:19] <Abusive> it has dependencies
[04:20] <membreya> thoreauputic: shush :P
[04:20] <membreya> I'm new to all this
[04:20] <pjharper> Do I need the ndiswrapper source as well as the utils to make it go?
[04:20] <membreya> I have a huge learning curb :(
[04:20] <membreya> curve even
[04:20] <membreya> god I'm tired!
[04:20] <jk24> WARNING WARNING WARNING: linux-image-2.6.10-4-686 make freeze my workstation while gnome-session starting, the 2.6.10-3-686 no !
[04:20] <no0tic> sorry for the strange question but.. how do you translate "image resolution" in spanish?
[04:20] <thoreauputic> Abusive: have you enabled the universe repository?
[04:20] <membreya> no0tic: http://babelfish.altavista.com/ :)
[04:20] <meuserj|work> jk24, yes.. I discovered that as well
[04:20] <Echylo> for all your music scripts ! #finemusic
[04:20] <Echylo> hmm
[04:20] <bascule> imagos resolutionos :P
[04:20] <t31> resolucion de pantalla no0tic
[04:20] <Echylo> I'll never get the channel launched
[04:21] <scy_ubuntu> what is the root-passwd for the ubuntu-livecd? i tried to change it with sudo, but sudo crashes with an error
[04:21] <jk24> meuserj|work: it may be a good idea to post something somewhere for who that can
[04:21] <dstevens> membreya he will not help, he lives in the same world as santa.
[04:21] <Echylo> #finemusic !
[04:21] <Echylo> :'(
[04:22] <meuserj|work> jk24, it seems that few know about the problem here... when it was happening to me I came on here and mentioned it an no one seemed to know what I was talking about
[04:22] <Echylo> I'm not a 1001 channel advertiser
[04:22] <membreya> once I've done a make on a kernel, can I then go back to the source and do another make menuconfig?
[04:22] <Abusive> thoreauputic : how?
[04:22] <meuserj|work> jk24, what is happening is that gam_server is causing the kernel to panick
[04:22] <thoreauputic> Abusive: your first stop needs to be  ubuntuguide.org , methinks
[04:22] <scy_ubuntu> nobody there who has tried the live-cd of ubuntu?
[04:22] <Echylo> me
[04:22] <jk24> meuserj|work: ok
[04:23] <thoreauputic> Abusive: you have much to learn, Grasshopper ;)
[04:23] <meuserj|work> scy_ubuntu, you can't change the root password, because the filesystem is read-only
[04:23] <Echylo> every1 has thoreauputic
[04:23] <thoreauputic> Echylo: indeed, I agree
[04:23] <Xappe> meuserj|work, jk24, got that problem when booting with the k7 kernel. rebooted mith 686 and no freeze...haven't replicated this so I don't know how frequent the lockups are
[04:23] <Echylo> :)
[04:23] <Echylo> but some more then other
[04:23] <scy_ubuntu> meuserj|work, and why is synaptic included when you can't use it?
[04:23] <thoreauputic> Echylo: that guide is a good place to start
[04:23] <Echylo> others*
[04:24] <Echylo> I know
[04:24] <Echylo> it's great
[04:24] <meuserj|work> you can still sudo
[04:24] <scy_ubuntu> meuserj|work, in knoppix you can also become root
[04:24] <scy_ubuntu> meuserj|work, no, sudo crashes with an error
[04:24] <membreya> bascule: I just looked at the config that I made with the new kernel and the sata_nv is set to *
[04:24] <meuserj|work> what is the error?
[04:24] <meuserj|work> scy_ubuntu, ^
[04:24] <bascule> membreya: what about ramfs
[04:24] <scy_ubuntu> "bash: /usr/bin/sudo: Eingabe-/Ausgabefehler", its german and means input-/outputerror
[04:25] <meuserj|work> Xappe, I have the problem with the 686 kernel too....
[04:25] <jk24> Xappe: appends all times with the 686
[04:25] <membreya> CONFIG_RAMFS=y in my .config
[04:25] <bascule> KO, I 'll have a quick look at
[04:26] <meuserj|work> scy_ubuntu, wait.. why would you need to run synaptic on a read-only filesystem?  You can upgrade anything...
[04:26] <scy_ubuntu> meuserj|work, i want to look at the ubuntu-packages
[04:26] <membreya> bascule: want me to upload my .config? :P
[04:26] <scy_ubuntu> and do some other stuff
[04:26] <DrDik> hey!  Anyone know when my ubuntu laptop crashes my I output to a monitor but it didn't when I used RH9.0 (gasp!)
[04:26] <bascule> membreya: yeah right .... pay me!! :P
[04:27] <DrDik> hey!  Anyone know why my ubuntu laptop crashes when I output to a monitor but it didn't when I used RH9.0 (gasp!)
[04:27] <membreya> so mean bascule :P
[04:27] <meuserj|work> scy_ubuntu, not sure why sudo is crashing
[04:27] <scy_ubuntu> meuserj|work, ok, thanks
[04:27] <meuserj|work> scy_ubuntu, I don't use the live cd
[04:27] <oz_> Anyone know how to tell which mp3 decoder is being used?
[04:27] <membreya> gah why is it panicking
[04:27] <scy_ubuntu> meuserj|work, yeah, i just wanted to try ubuntu
[04:28] <meuserj|work> scy_ubuntu, If you just want to see what packages are available
[04:28] <thoreauputic> membreya: it saw you coming - that would panic anyone ;)
[04:28] <meuserj|work> scy_ubuntu, check out http://archive.ubuntulinux.org
[04:28] <membreya> thoreauputic: :P
[04:28] <scy_ubuntu> meuserj|work, mh, thanks
[04:28] <membreya> it's panicking on vfs
[04:28] <njan> is gam_server horribly broken for anyone else running hoary?
[04:28] <membreya> njan: most people :P
[04:29] <meuserj|work> njan, yes
[04:29] <meuserj|work> njan, are you getting lockups?
[04:29] <njan> meuserj|work, not now, I'm running xfce4 :p
[04:29] <njan> but yes, gam_server was kernel panicing
[04:29] <njan> s/kernel panicing/causing the kernel to panic/
[04:29] <meuserj|work> njan, go back to 2.6.10-3
[04:29] <njan> meuserj|work, oh, it's a kernel issue?
[04:29] <delltony> membreya, wasn't it u and i talking about hoary not having the gnome menu adding the other day?
[04:29] <meuserj|work> njan, yes
[04:29] <njan> meuserj|work, actually, that would make sense, being that I didn't just upgrade gam_server
[04:29] <pjharper> Do I actually have to compile my kernel to make ndiswrapper work?
[04:29] <njan> alrightly ;)
[04:30] <membreya> delltony: yup
[04:30] <delltony> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=77243  (check it out)
[04:30] <bascule> where the hell are the SATA drivers in menuconfig?
[04:31] <membreya> lol bascule :)
[04:31] <membreya> they're under scsi
[04:31] <jk24> pjharper: no, you have to have the linux-header... package that match with you running kernel
[04:31] <splatch> hi all
[04:31] <splatch> i have a problem
[04:31] <splatch> does somebody can help me?
[04:31] <jk24> splatch: better ask your question
[04:32] <splatch> i ugraded my ubuntu to hoary 2 day ago and now my usb key isn't mouted
[04:32] <splatch> what can i do,
[04:32] <splatch> ?
[04:32] <membreya> bascule: go to device drivers > scsi device support > SCSI low level drivers
[04:33] <bascule> membreya: yeah I got it, did you read the help for nv sata?
[04:34] <splatch> jk24, can u help me?
[04:34] <bascule> SCSI device support (SCSI [=m] ) needs to be y
[04:34] <membreya> i did
[04:34] <trigx300> hello to all
[04:35] <will> hellooooO
[04:35] <IorGie> hello
[04:35] <oz_> Does anyone know what "protocol-esound.c: Warning! Too many connections (10), dropping incoming connection." means?
[04:35] <jk24> splatch: if you try to mount it "by the hand" it works ?
[04:36] <membreya> bascule: I've got it set to y :)
[04:36] <splatch> jk24, how?
[04:36] <delltony> membreya, did you check it out?
[04:36] <jk24> splatch: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[04:36] <JDigital> Hey, I fixed my video player problem. Excellent.
[04:37] <oz_> It happens every time I start totem...
[04:37] <membreya> sweet thanks delltony :) I will keep it in mind..but im not busting a gut to change my menus..but thankyou anyhoo :)
[04:37] <bascule> membreya: I dunno then, for now ...
[04:37] <delltony> me either but i figured it was needed
[04:37] <membreya> would not having an initrd bother it bascule ?
[04:37] <delltony> i was use to application:///
[04:38] <bascule> membreya: only if it needs some module that you haven't hardwired, try an initrd with it see how it does
[04:38] <bascule> no, I know nothing of initrd
[04:38] <bascule> :))
[04:39] <membreya> damn you!
[04:39] <membreya> don't preempt me!
[04:39] <membreya> maybe I can just use the existing one!
[04:39] <membreya> ha!
[04:39] <bascule> heh, pre-emptible 2.6.11
[04:39] <bascule> membreya: doubt it, it'll fail hiorribly and kill your computer :P
[04:39] <membreya> shudup bascule !
[04:39] <membreya> noooooooo!
[04:39] <membreya> well one more reboot
[04:39] <membreya> then I will cry
[04:40] <bascule> nah, It will look for modules that might not be there causing problems
[04:40] <bascule> might be OK
[04:40] <bascule> once again:
[04:40] <bascule> no, I know nothing of initrd
[04:41] <Frafraxy> hi
[04:41] <Frafraxy> i must convert a file rm in a file mp3
[04:41] <bascule> oooooo
[04:41] <Frafraxy> what i must do?
[04:41] <bascule> can be done
[04:42] <ssam> frafraxy thats not easy
[04:42] <bascule> you need mencoder
[04:42] <Frafraxy> what program i must to use?
[04:42] <Frafraxy> mencoder?
[04:42] <bascule> yes, comes with mplayer
[04:42] <ssam> maybe it isnt so hard
[04:42] <ssam> i couldn't do it when i tried a while ago
[04:44] <bascule> http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-linux-e/2004-Jun/0346.html <-- one idea
[04:44] <thoreauputic> hmm sox will do some conversions, but not that one I think
[04:44] <bascule> ssam: I got a line of code that will do wma to mp3
[04:44] <bascule> so from there it might be an easy change
[04:44] <ssam> i think realmedia files where the problem
[04:44] <bascule> I startes looking at the manpage, but it's an absolute killer
[04:44] <trigx300> wma to mp3? how?
[04:44] <membreya> big fat failure bascule
[04:44] <bascule> 2 secs
[04:45] <membreya> it got further
[04:45] <bascule> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/answers/352
[04:45] <ssam> only the horrible player from real could do them, and then you'r have to hijack the sound from the sound card
[04:45] <bascule> trigx300: ^^
[04:45] <bascule> ssam: using that simple script hack up a solution, I hope
[04:46] <bascule> if so p[ost it in that thread for us all :))
[04:46] <ktech> hey guys...  4.10 has auto-detect features for inserted usb-sticks or is that a 5.xx feature?
[04:46] <trigx300> bascule - cool thanks
[04:47] <bascule> np
[04:47] <ssam> does mplayer do realmedia files?
[04:47] <membreya> oh yeah fine help others bascule :P
[04:47] <trigx300> iv been having problems with that
[04:47] <bascule> if you can get real to do the same, god bless you and karma**9
[04:47] <ktech> ssam mplayer does almost all, so yes :)
[04:47] <bascule> membreya: you are boring now :P
[04:47] <membreya> :P
[04:47] <ssam> thats cool
[04:48] <bascule> mplayer will play rm, so it should dump it like the wma will
[04:48] <Medrakil> what do i need to get 3d-acc'ed stuff going on an ATI Rage 128?
[04:48] <bascule> miracles and super skills :P
[04:48] <thoreauputic> Medrakil: much patience ;)
[04:49] <ssam> the open souce ati driver seems ok for me
[04:49] <Medrakil> thoreauputic, awwh. But where do i start? are there no drivers i can apt-get, like for nvidia cards?
[04:49] <Medrakil> ssam, is it in apt? if not, where do i get it?
[04:50] <ssam> but i am powerpc so i have no choice
[04:51] <ssam> you just need it enabled in your /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[04:51] <ssam> in the Device section
[04:51] <ssam>         Driver          "ati"
[04:52] <no0tic> metacity seems to freeze when gksudo is opened
[04:52] <Medrakil> ssam, well that's there already
[04:52] <Medrakil> ssam, perhaps i need some gl-stuff
[04:52] <ssam> i have just been playing with the instructions on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=14435
[04:53] <ssam> no0tic i think thats a security thing so you dont type your password anywhere else
[04:53] <no0tic> ssam: ok :)
[04:54] <ssam> medrakil does glxgears run ok for you
[04:55] <Medrakil> ssam, 291FPS
[04:55] <thoreauputic> hmm that's slow
[04:55] <ssam> i get about 1400fps at the tiny size it defaults to
[04:56] <Medrakil> 352 now... but it's an ATI rage 128, not a fancy card
[04:56] <ssam> in the module section of you xorg.conf do you have glx and dri enabled
[04:56] <ssam> mine is a radeon 9000 i think
[04:57] <Medrakil> i think that's X86Config to me... lemme see
[04:57] <kazeisevil> need a bit of help, new to linux. how would i mount a flash drive?  anybody got a link to a guide or can tell me how
[04:57] <Medrakil> yes, glx and dri are on
[04:57] <ssam> kazeisevil, just plug it in
[04:58] <kazeisevil> i have it doesnt show in filesystem
[04:58] <ssam> medraikil, are you running warty? you might want to try hoary and xorg, but i dont know if it will make much difference
[04:58] <Medrakil> ssam, yes, warty
[04:59] <ssam> kazeisevil, is your system up to date?
[04:59] <Medrakil> ssam, well maybe i should.. but it should work in xfree too, though :P
[05:00] <kazeisevil> it should be i only installed ubuntu yesterday
[05:00] <ssam> kazeisevil, if you open synaptic package manager and click reload, then mark upgrades and then apply
[05:00] <kazeisevil> cool ill give that a try
[05:03] <ssam> medrakil, had a look in the forums and they say set you colour depth to 16
[05:06] <Madeye>  I have two computers, one has two Eth cards installed eth0 connected to the ADSL modem, and the second to connect my machine A with B, what i'm facing now, whenever I activate Eth1 my internet connection lost, why idea?
[05:07] <oz_> ip address conflict
[05:07] <Medrakil> ssam, ah
[05:07] <ssam> madeye a default gateway problem
[05:07] <Dr_willis> ip address go to the cards. so that one pc with 2 cards will have 2 ip addresses. one for each card.
[05:07] <Madeye> ssam,  how to solve it
[05:07] <Medrakil> ssam, i also checked a bit around and i'm gonna try to set Driver "r128" now...
[05:08] <oz_> bye folks
[05:08] <Dr_willis> wonder if a dhcp server would help. Hmm.
[05:08] <ssam> have a look at the output for ifconfig
[05:08] <Medrakil> ssam, brb, gonna try the driver thing
[05:08] <ssam> see if you can see the ip addresses for each interface
[05:09] <Madeye> Dr_Aevil,  the machine with 2 cards, eth0 IP <IP_ADDRESS> should I give the eth1 <IP_ADDRESS>?
[05:09] <Dr_willis> yes. they have to be different ip#'s
[05:09] <hawke_> Is it chigger time yet?
[05:09] <membreya> i give up on kernels
[05:10] <Dr_willis> chigger? a small tick like bug that gives you a NASTY rash? I hope not. :P
[05:10] <membreya> I'm waiting for 2.6.11
[05:10] <ssam> look at the "inet addr" line
[05:10] <membreya> or whagever
[05:10] <membreya> gnite!
[05:10] <Madeye> Dr_willis,  what about the gateway ? eth0 has the modem gateway, what should I set the eth1 gatway
[05:10] <ssam> type route to find the gateway
[05:10] <Dr_willis> they all shiould use the same gateway. and dns servers.
[05:10] <Dr_willis> actually thats not right.. pc #2 uses pc #1 as its gateway I thinjk
[05:11] <Madeye> ssam, Kernel IP routing table
[05:11] <Madeye> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[05:11] <Madeye> localnet        *               <IP_ADDRESS>   U     0      0        0 eth0
[05:11] <Madeye> default         SpeedTouch.lan  <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[05:11] <ssam> check that the default line is set to the right interface
[05:11] <Dr_willis> i eventualluy just went and boight a Linksys rouiter for like $30 :p And havent messed with more then 1 network card in a box since.
[05:11] <Dr_willis> :P
[05:11] <crypticreign> my desktop backround pref's dialog comes up as a gray box and then crashes.. this is on a fresh install of warty
[05:11] <Medrakil> what's the best way to restart X w/ new settings?
[05:12] <CarlK> Medrakil = ctrl alt backspace
[05:12] <ssam> log out and  ctrl-alt-del
[05:12] <Medrakil> CarlK: k
[05:12] <Dr_willis> Medrakil,  hard core - alt-ctrl-backspace - kills X and should restart the server.
[05:12] <Dr_willis> alt-ctrl-del restarts the machine.
[05:12] <Medrakil> Dr_willis: yeah, i logged out and did that
[05:12] <Medrakil> the backspace thing
[05:13] <ssam> sorry, im on a mac and there is only a backspace (which i call delete)
[05:13] <bascule> bib
[05:13] <Echylo> plone:
[05:13] <Echylo>  Depends: zope-cmfplone but it is not going to be installed
[05:13] <Echylo> I have universe & multiverse enabled
[05:15] <Echylo> membreya,
[05:15] <Echylo> I need your help :p
[05:15] <membreya> Echylo: ?
[05:15] <membreya> hah
[05:15] <Echylo> you have read my question?
[05:15] <Echylo> ^^
[05:15] <membreya> erm
[05:15] <membreya>  zope-cmfplone
[05:15] <Echylo> yeh
[05:16] <Echylo> I try to install through synaptic
[05:16] <membreya> do an apt-get install
[05:16] <membreya> i have it in my repos
[05:16] <membreya> what arch are you running?
[05:16] <Echylo> ubuntu warty
[05:16] <TreadingSoftly> is it possible to open quicktime video in Linux?
[05:16] <Echylo> x86
[05:16] <delltony> mplayer will play them i thought
[05:17] <mjr> TreadingSoftly, depends entirely on the codec used
[05:17] <thoreauputic> probably vlc (video-lan-client) as well , with the right codecs
[05:17] <mjr> for some, there are free codecs, for some, windows codecs are required (and therefore an x86 comp)
[05:17] <Echylo> you know solution membreya?
[05:17] <TreadingSoftly> how about quicktime trailers etc. that are embedded in webpages?
[05:17] <delltony> mplayer mozilla
[05:18] <delltony> get the w32codec while your at it
[05:18] <TreadingSoftly> what repository?
[05:18] <delltony> thought it was in universe i might be wrong though
[05:19] <delltony> its in my synaptic
[05:19] <membreya> echylo what happens when you do an apt-cache search on zope-cmfplone
[05:19] <zenrox> no it ant in universe
[05:19] <membreya> do I need my headers??
[05:19] <Medrakil> ssam:  i get 690 FPS i glxgears now, is that acceptable?
[05:19] <delltony> ok then in that case i'm not sure
[05:19] <Echylo> how do you do that?
[05:19] <ssam> thats good
[05:19] <zenrox> its a diferent resporty
[05:19] <membreya> Echylo: go to a console
[05:19] <delltony> i just have the standard extra repositories added
[05:19] <membreya> and type apt-cache search  zope-cmfplone
[05:20] <Medrakil> i mean, this is a Celeron 433Mhz/256MB ram / rage128 box
[05:20] <ssam> its just under half what my radeon 9000 64mb does
[05:20] <delltony> that were listed on the wiki
[05:20] <delltony> but anyway its mplayer-mozilla and w32codec
[05:20] <bretzel> Hi all, My system is in english ( not a prb at all but)  - would want to have it now in my native language (french) , what are the pkgs, and system-wide commands to change the language ?
[05:20] <Medrakil> ssam: allright, then it's probably decent
[05:20] <Echylo> yeh
[05:20] <Echylo> it works
[05:20] <Echylo> zope-cmfplone - A zope/cmf-based content management system
[05:20] <Echylo> it replies
[05:20] <ssam> the big test is how well it does screensavers :-)
[05:20] <Medrakil> now, next hurdle... quake2 :D
[05:21] <membreya> Echylo: so do a sudo apt-get install zope-cmfplone
[05:21] <Echylo> wait wait :p
[05:22] <membreya> going to bed now
[05:22] <Echylo> couldn't find package :s
[05:23] <Echylo> but Ill find out
[05:23] <Echylo> gnight
[05:23] <Echylo> and thanks ;)
[05:23] <membreya> running hoary right Echylo
[05:23] <Echylo> warty
[05:24] <membreya> damnit
[05:24] <membreya> http://higgs.djpig.de/ubuntu/www/hoary/web/zope-cmfplone
[05:24] <membreya> :P
[05:24] <membreya> that's hoary
[05:24] <Echylo> ow ok
[05:24] <Echylo> so I need to add hoary repo's?
[05:24] <membreya> http://packages.debian.org/testing/web/plone
[05:24] <membreya> compile it yourself
[05:24] <Echylo> naah
[05:24] <Echylo> :p
[05:25] <Echylo> k
[05:25] <Echylo> I'll check it ou
[05:25] <Echylo> t
[05:25] <bretzel> pleasae I would want to change the base-system language (locale)  -- howto?
[05:26] <LinuxJones> bretzel, dpkg-reconfigure locales
[05:26] <bretzel> Thanx LinuxJones, it is not that straight-forward when we dunno what does what :-)
[05:27] <MaxeyPad> do any of you run vmware on ubuntu?
[05:27] <searcher`> yup
[05:27] <searcher`> i do
[05:27] <Echylo> what's wrong bretzel?
[05:29] <LinuxJones> bretzel, :)
[05:29] <INRSboy> do any of you try to install IDL 6.0 on ubuntu warty ?
[05:30] <Madeye> Kernel IP routing table
[05:30] <Madeye> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[05:30] <Madeye> <IP_ADDRESS>        <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>   U     0      0        0 eth0
[05:30] <Madeye> <IP_ADDRESS>     <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>   U     0      0        0 eth1
[05:30] <Madeye> <IP_ADDRESS>         <IP_ADDRESS>      <IP_ADDRESS>         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[05:30] <bretzel> Echylo: Since I am not used with Ubuntu and Linux in general, I was searching for howto change (especially for my default native language) the default locale
[05:30] <Madeye> <IP_ADDRESS> is the ADSL modem IP
[05:30] <Echylo> well
[05:30] <Echylo> you just open a terminal
[05:30] <Echylo> and type in what LinuxJones said
[05:31] <Echylo> but
[05:31] <Echylo> like
[05:31] <thoreauputic> adding sudo before it is an idea
[05:31] <MaxeyPad> searcher`: well basically when I try to install vmware workstation I get this error : install process insmod: error inserting '/tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon.o': -1 Invalid module format
[05:31] <Echylo> sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[05:31] <Echylo> and then you smash enter
[05:31] <Echylo> and you give your password
[05:31] <thoreauputic> yup
[05:31] <MaxeyPad> yes smash it
[05:31] <searcher`> MaxeyPad: did you install build-essential and the kernel-headers for the running kernel?
[05:31] <MaxeyPad> with your fist
[05:32] <Echylo> yep
[05:32] <searcher`> and symlinked /usr/src/linux to the now available headers
[05:32] <thoreauputic> Echylo: your keyboard is insensitive ? ;-)
[05:32] <Echylo> yea
[05:32] <MaxeyPad> instlaling build-essentila now :(
[05:32] <thoreauputic> Echylo: remove the chewing gum then ;-)
[05:32] <Echylo> damn
[05:33] <Echylo> how you know
[05:33] <zenrox> lol
[05:33] <thoreauputic> Echylo: hehe
[05:35] <prego> Usung hoary at my laptop, I'm forced to use the menu-bar-applet which uses a lot of space for a laptop screen... Any ideas about how to add "places" and "System" menus to let's say a drawer?
[05:36] <Echylo> why does a amd64 install asks for a 12g partition with a friend?
[05:38] <LinuxJones> prego, in Hoary afaik you have to edit file by hand :(
[05:38] <[Schok] Semt> evarlast, around?
[05:38] <evarlast> [Schok] Semt: I'm here.
[05:38] <[Schok] Semt> evarlast, about the cs4236 ;)
[05:38] <prego> LinuxJones, :-(
[05:38] <[Schok] Semt> modprobe snd-cs4235 isapnp=0 seemed to work
[05:38] <[Schok] Semt> 36*
[05:39] <LinuxJones> prego, they must be working on a replacement for the old way of doing it
[05:39] <[Schok] Semt> I get like *crackle* in my speakers and OOS(orso) and Alsamixer work
[05:39] <[Schok] Semt> Only still no sound, and I cannot set the volume from taskbar
[05:39] <evarlast> Sem-T: excellent.
[05:39] <prego> LinuxJones, at least, the menu bar could be configurable in order to show icons instead of names....
[05:39] <[Schok] Semt> yet I can set volumes within the mixer window
[05:39] <[Schok] Semt> *the [Schok]  is for a fellow gamer who died in car accident
[05:39] <[Schok] Semt> So you know...
[05:40] <evarlast> [Schok] Semt: I'm not sure.   I do know that those sound chips are not very good.  I have some old MB' with that chip.
[05:40] <LinuxJones> prego, grouping windows migh be a bit of a help
[05:41] <[Schok] Semt> evarlast, tell me about it;) Everything seems to work, only no sound and the volume control icon in taskbar just drops back to zero
[05:41] <prego> LinuxJones, yeah, but I also want my workspace switcher, my battery monitor and my system monitor; plus the menu bar lets so little space for task buttons....
[05:42] <[Schok] Semt> But it's not that big of a problem, it's just annoying to have hardware in your box wich does not work. I do not really need sound for ubuntu, it's just that it's there, so why not use it.
[05:42] <LinuxJones> prego, yeah, I use seperate virtual terminals for internet chat terminal that would certainly help out a bit as well
[05:43] <LinuxJones> prego, it would be nice to just have the application icons showing though
[05:43] <prego> LinuxJones, "Applications" is so long string!!!
[05:45] <jhaltom> Is there another mirror for cdimage.ubuntu.com?
[05:45] <jhaltom> It's really slow. =/
[05:47] <selinium_> Hi  all, has anyone here got a tv card working?
[05:47] <LinuxJones> jhaltom, did you try bittorrent
[05:48] <jhaltom> Looking for array 5 hoary
[05:48] <jhaltom> does it have a torrent?
[05:48] <LinuxJones> jhaltom, it should yeah
[05:48] <jhaltom> ahh
[05:48] <karim> hi
[05:48] <selinium_> I have just installed a old tv card, it appears to have installed coorectly (a la Device manager) but I dont know what program to install to use it. Any ideas?
[05:49] <karim> I have a problem with the gnome icons
[05:49] <karim> there is none
[05:49] <karim> in fact I upgraded a debian to a ubuntu
[05:49] <LinuxJones> jhaltom, >> http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/releases/hoary/array-5/
[05:49] <karim> but the icon problem was there already
[05:50] <LinuxJones> maybe something in your gnome config is messed up can you create a new test user and log in to see if they appear ?
[05:50] <Xappe> selinium_, tvtime is a nice tvapp.
[05:50] <karim> I have removed all the .gnome and .gconf folders before reloging
[05:50] <selinium_> I'll give it a go! Cheers Xappe
[05:50] <LinuxJones> karim, ahh it's warty your using ?
[05:50] <karim> LinuxJones, maybe I miss some
[05:50] <karim> nope, hoary
[05:51] <LinuxJones> karim, everyting seems to be working fine for me
[05:51] <karim> I reboooted and it went fine
[05:51] <karim> however I have bugs at boot
[05:51] <LinuxJones> karim, bugs ?
[05:51] <karim> it was there on the debian too
[05:51] <karim> yes
[05:51] <Xappe> selinium_, i get much better tv quality in linux and tvtime than windows with hauppage's own program/driver
[05:51] <LinuxJones> karim, failure to load s few modules ?
[05:51] <karim> I don't have changed much things, but this debian degraded with time
[05:52] <karim> linuxboy, yes, plus a ressource 0 bug
[05:52] <karim> I wonder if I should not reinstall a system
[05:52] <selinium_> Xappe: my card is about 9 years old. I dont think it is a hauppage card?
[05:53] <Xappe> selinium_, what chip?
[05:53] <LinuxJones> karim, >> http://ubuntuguide.org/#modprobefatalerror
[05:54] <Xappe> selinium_, is it a bt chip you should be fine I think
[05:54] <bascule> ssam: that line will rip real as well
[05:54] <selinium_> Xappe: i think it is a bt chip
[05:54] <prego> karim, why don't you create a dummy user to see if he has the same problem?
[05:55] <bascule> ssam: just make the necessary .wma to rm changes and all is good
[05:55] <Xappe> selinium_, go ahead and try ffs :)
[05:55] <selinium_> Xappe: ffs?
[05:55] <Xappe> selinium_, for f**k sake
[05:56] <selinium_> Xappe: LOL It have just done a complete scan and found no channels :(
[05:57] <Xappe> selinium_, hmm...did you connect the coax? :)
[05:57] <selinium_> Xappe: I'm not 'that' stupid! :P
[05:58] <Xappe> selinium_, it works without any issues here. my card is a bt878...
[05:59] <selinium_> Xappe: According to the Device Manager, so is mine!
[06:00] <Xappe> selinium_, strange
[06:01] <karim> prego, I have just done it, and there is the same problem
[06:01] <karim> icons are missing
[06:01] <prego> karim, bad news then :-((
[06:01] <karim> well not all the debian package were removed
[06:01] <karim> by ubuntu pakcages
[06:01] <selinium_> Xappe: I'll try a reinstall and see what happens...
[06:01] <LinuxJones> karim, did you dist-upgrade ?
[06:01] <karim> if there is a way to do that ...
[06:01] <karim> yes
[06:02] <LinuxJones> karim, is gnome-icon-theme installed ?
[06:03] <karim> can you do the pipe symbol please
[06:03] <karim> my keyboard don't want to do it
[06:03] <LinuxJones> |
[06:03] <karim> ok I got one
[06:03] <karim> :)
[06:03] <LinuxJones> :)
[06:04] <LaurenceRowe> ehelp! I've just upgraded to hoary and now x crashes as soon as I log in. any idea what might cause this?
[06:04] <bascule> linux drivers
[06:04] <bascule> nvidia drivers
[06:04] <bascule> sorry ... :(
[06:04] <LaurenceRowe> I'm using nv
[06:05] <Nermal> LaurenceRowe: esd ?
[06:05] <bascule> ok, well rm -f ~/.ICEauthority
[06:05] <Nermal> crash or just logs you back out ?
[06:05] <LaurenceRowe> how tproper crash. mouse freezes, only way out is reset button
[06:06] <Nermal> boot with pci=noacpi ?
[06:06] <LaurenceRowe> how dohow do I disable esd?
[06:06] <zenrox> i hate this simcity 3000 unlimeted (loki's port) dont work
[06:06] <Xappe> ooops, got a total system lockup
[06:06] <Xappe> had to hard reboot with the powerbutton
[06:12] <mikkel> a short one.. Has anyone got any luck with the thinkpad T series scroll-mouse-button working
[06:12] <RoBiN-aNdRe> hEy!
[06:13] <ZamRok> hEY!
[06:13] <prego> mikkel, I tried live CD in a thinkpad (sorry I don't know the actual model) without problems
[06:13] <thoreauputic> HeY!
[06:14] <prego> HEY!
[06:14] <thoreauputic> hey!
[06:15] <RoBiN-aNdRe> hey hey
[06:15] <ZamRok> Hey!Hey!
[06:15] <RoBiN-aNdRe> how you doing
[06:15] <mikkel> pergo, hmmmmm dosent work on mine
[06:15] <ZamRok> hmmmmm
[06:15] <prego> mikkel, nothing works?
[06:15] <RoBiN-aNdRe> hmmmz!
[06:15] <LinuxJones> mikkel, make sure  Option          "ZAxisMapping"          "4 5"      is under your mouse settings in /etc/X11/xf86config-4/xorg.conf file
[06:15] <mikkel> yah, but not my scroll button
[06:16] <mikkel> LinuxJones, thx, im gonna try that
[06:16] <LinuxJones> mikkel, sorry I thought you mean mouse wheel
[06:16] <prego> mikkel, ah! the thing has an own scroll button???
[06:16] <mikkel> no trackpoint
[06:16] <prego> mikkel, touch pad?
[06:16] <mikkel> yep
[06:16] <moquist> anybody here know how to configure software RAID on an already-configured Ubuntu system?
[06:16] <LinuxJones> ohh
[06:16] <mikkel> no not pad, trackpoint
[06:17] <mikkel> here are 3 buttons, the one in the middle is for scroll
[06:17] <prego> mikkel, have you connected a real mouse?
[06:17] <mikkel> yah, works fine
[06:17] <mikkel> it also work on my pad, but not on my trackp.
[06:17] <prego> However, I would try what LinuxJones said
[06:18] <mikkel> yep, thats the settings there are now
[06:18] <prego> mikkel, warty or hoary?
[06:18] <mikkel> warty
[06:18] <karim_> I got a huge crash
[06:18] <karim_> the error about the icons is :
[06:18] <karim_> Failed to load image file-manager  Details: Icon not found
[06:19] <prego> mikkel, then the file is /etx/X11/XF86Config-a
[06:19] <karim_> I also got a problem with alsa which says he doesn't find a sound card
[06:19] <prego> mikkel, then the file is /etx/X11/XF86Config-4
[06:19] <prego> (sorry)
[06:19] <mikkel> i know, but the setting are '4 ,5'
[06:19] <LaurenceRowe> Thanks #ubuntu! it was 2.6.10-4 that was causing my grief. 2.6.10-3 works fine
[06:20] <mikkel> i think i have to set some kind of value on my button_3
[06:20] <karim_> LaurenceRowe, what is the problem with 10-4 ?
[06:20] <prego> LaurenceRowe, there is a recent kernel update...
[06:20] <LaurenceRowe> froze as soon as I logged in
[06:21] <LaurenceRowe> rather logged into gnome
[06:21] <kroon> LaurenceRowe, are you using the nvidia driver ?
[06:21] <LaurenceRowe> not yet
[06:21] <LaurenceRowe> just nv
[06:21] <kroon> LaurenceRowe, ah, I thought it was an nvidia issue but I guess its more general to the kernel then
[06:22] <prego> LaurenceRowe, system panic or suspend?
[06:23] <LaurenceRowe> not sure. Mouse froze, was unable to ctrl-alt-delete, kill X or switch to a virtual terminal
[06:25] <meuserj|work> LaurenceRowe, boot to linux-image-2.6.10-4
[06:25] <meuserj|work> I mean
[06:25] <meuserj|work> -3
[06:25] <meuserj|work> -4 is broken
[06:25] <meuserj|work> to clearify:
[06:26] <meuserj|work> boot to linux-image-2.6.10-3 NOT 4
[06:26] <kroon> meuserj|work, in what way is 4 broken ?
[06:27] <zenrox> 2.6.10-4 dont have the modules for it yet
[06:27] <CarlK> does warty auto mount floppys?
[06:27] <CarlK> or, when the gf puts in a flopy, what should she do?
[06:27] <kroon> zenrox, modules for what ?
[06:27] <meuserj|work> kroon, not sure... all I know it panics when gam_server starts
[06:27] <zenrox> kroon,  every thang
[06:27] <kroon> meuserj|work, ah ok
[06:28] <meuserj|work> kroon, I'm guessing it's an inotify problem, since that's the only kernel level part that gam_server uses.
[06:29] <zenrox> meuserj|work,  the-3 ver has inotify disabled i think i can be wrong
[06:29] <kroon> meuserj|work, yeah, sounds like a good explanation
[06:29] <Xappe> mhm, on the hoary forum I read a post about that. the .4 kernel should work if you boot it with a noinotify flag of some sort
[06:29] <meuserj|work> Xappe, really.... that's interesting..
[06:29] <zenrox> that is
[06:31] <Xappe> meuserj|work, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16681&page=2&pp=10
[06:32] <prego> CarlK, try going to "Computer" in nautilus and selectting the floppy drive
[06:33] <prego> CarlK, also, do not forget to unmount the floppy when finished
[06:33] <CarlK> prego - thanks - I talked her through mount
[06:33] <CarlK> (she called from school)
[06:34] <prego> CarlK, I guess that using subfs would do it automagically
[06:34] <CarlK> prego - I looked for nautilus a while ago - what is the menu path to it?
[06:34] <prego> computer://
[06:34] <prego> or Places->computer
[06:35] <CarlK> prego - she was on a FC2 box, and that mounted stuff under /mnt/floppy and now she is doing the user thing and clicking everywhere ;)
[06:35] <prego> Btw, my SuSE fstab entry (automagic) is: /dev/fd0             /media/floppy        subfs      fs=floppyfss,procuid,nodev,nosuid,sync 0 0
[06:36] <prego> I  guess it would work in ubuntu
[06:36] <meuserj|work> zenrox, inotify being disabled in -3 would explain why beagle suddenly stopped working for me.. so that makes sense.
[06:36] <thoreauputic> CarlK: you can put a mounting applet on the panel that will mount the floppy, if you wish
[06:36] <zenrox> meuserj|work, ya thay were having a prob with it and are reworken it
[06:36] <thoreauputic> with the correct paths inserted, of course
[06:37] <karim_> should I force downgrade of my debian package to the ubuntu one or just wait that they got removed by ubuntu packages ?
[06:37] <CarlK> thoreauputic - well, right now we are just trying to figure out how to open files from her friends floppy - I think she got it
[06:38] <prego> .bash_profile is not called at login in ubuntu, is it?
[06:39] <bascule> yes
[06:39] <prego> bascule, my variables are not exported :-((
[06:39] <bascule> hmmmm, try .bashrc
[06:39] <thoreauputic> /etc/profile perhaps
[06:40] <prego> .bashrc DOES; however I had my own .bash_profile that  I will have to copy&paste to .bashrc ???
[06:40] <prego> I've always been puzzled about login shells versus non login shells.
[06:40] <thoreauputic> jst put  `source .bashrc` in that file
[06:41] <dstevens>  ~/.bash_profile: executed by bash(1) for login shells.
[06:41] <CarlK> where is natules? apps or computer?
[06:41] <LaurenceRowe> nvidia driver appears to be broken with current hoary too. I get the nvidia logo, but the login screen never appears. can switch to a virtual console and restart gdm though
[06:41] <thoreauputic> computer >> home
[06:41] <bascule> more than I can
[06:41] <prego> THis is funny: if I enter via gdm .bash_profile is not source.But if I log via "ssh localhost" then it is !
[06:42] <CarlK> theres a home?
[06:42] <hawke_> dstevens: A login shell is when you login as a primary login, a non-login shell is as a secondary shell, e.g. with xterm or su
[06:42] <crypticreign> hmm, most gnome apps dont respond, open office wont open or create a document it just freezes
[06:42] <CarlK> that does sound familiar...
[06:42] <crypticreign> ugh
[06:42] <thoreauputic> CarlK: I think so - I'm in fluxbox atm
[06:42] <CarlK> thoreauputic - she is on a basic warty, defaults all the way
[06:43] <prego> CarlK, Places->Home
[06:43] <CarlK> places?
[06:43] <dstevens> hawke_: yup and you point is.
[06:43] <thoreauputic> CarlK: I'm pretty sure there's a "home" entry under Computer
[06:43] <prego> CarlK, at the menu above
[06:43] <karim_> should I force downgrade of my debian package to the ubuntu one or just wait that they got removed by ubuntu packages ?
[06:43] <karim_> because I did a switch from debian to ubuntu
[06:43] <prego> CarlK, oh wait, warty... however there is an entry at the menu
[06:44] <CarlK> yeah, I got too many installs too...
[06:44] <hawke_> dstevens: *sigh* ... suppose that should have gone to prego
[06:44] <dstevens> hawke_: na prob.
[06:44] <prego> CarlK, Computer->Home or Computer->Disks
[06:45] <hawke_> karim_: Your call.  It doesn't really matter that much
[06:45] <hawke_> karim_: For most packages anyway
[06:45] <CarlK> prego - thanks.
[06:46] <prego> hawke, why then bash is never called as login shell when login via gdm?
[06:46] <hawke_> prego: Because your gdm login is the primary one
[06:46] <crypticreign> hmm, theme manager and nautilus wont start either
[06:46] <crypticreign> ugh
[06:46] <hawke_> prego: And any terminals you open up from the session started with gdm are secondary shells
[06:47] <dstevens> hawke_, The GDM does it authenticate using PAM ?
[06:47] <hawke_> dstevens: I believe so.
[06:47] <LaurenceRowe> anyone running nvidia drivers and hoary?
[06:47] <prego> hawke, however, my gdm login shoud read my .bash_profile configuration and export the variables since my user shell is bash; isn't that correct?
[06:47] <prego> hawke_, however, my gdm login shoud read my .bash_profile configuration and export the variables since my user shell is bash; isn't that correct?
[06:48] <whorush> hello?
[06:48] <bascule> morning
[06:48] <prego> (sorry hawkeyes :-P )
[06:48] <karim_> hawke, thanks
[06:49] <hawke_> prego: I don't think so...since the session started by gdm is not bash.
[06:49] <crypticreign> any ideas why things just stop responding?
[06:49] <whorush> howdy, i just checked out the unofficial starter guide
[06:49] <whorush> http://ubuntuguide.org/#manualupdate
[06:49] <prego> hawke_, thanks for your help
[06:49] <whorush> and i did the manual updates
[06:49] <dstevens> prego, Nope the GDM should not read your bash_profile. as it has nothing todo with bash.
[06:50] <whorush> sudo apt-get update and then upgrade
[06:50] <whorush> does update, update some list of things to upgrade?
[06:50] <bascule> yes
[06:50] <whorush> ok, so i did them both and it updated some stuff
[06:51] <prego> dstevens, I expressed wrongly. What I meant is that when I log in the system, my shell should be called
[06:51] <bascule> well it gets the latest lists
[06:51] <whorush> right
[06:51] <hawke_> prego: That is true for a normal login
[06:51] <bascule> and the update updates them
[06:51] <whorush> but still its using firefox .9?
[06:51] <whorush> so that doesnt update software just the OS?
[06:51] <hawke_> prego: but gdm does not call your shell.
[06:51] <prego> Hannes_, but nowadays gdm logins are "normal logins"
[06:51] <bascule> yes it updates everything
[06:51] <hawke_> prego: normal yes
[06:52] <whorush> it updates everything?  why not firefox then?
[06:52] <hawke_> prego: I meant "normal login" in the sense of one that actually uses the program login instead of GDM, and immediately opens a shell
[06:53] <bascule> whorush: check what version firefox it's self returns in help -> about
[06:53] <whorush> firefox just for example
[06:53] <bborkk> Hi.  Can anyone help me get sound working with the Totem movie player?
[06:53] <bascule> bborkk: ffmpeg4
[06:53] <prego> hawke_ I don't see why GDM does not launch my shell prior to executing xinitrc or whatever...
[06:53] <hawke_> prego: Just as if your shell is other than bash, it won't read .bash_profile
[06:53] <whorush> 0.9.3
[06:53] <whorush> version 1.0 is out
[06:54] <bborkk> bascule: apt-cache search ffmpeg4 doesn't come up with anything.
[06:54] <hawke_> prego: it just doesn't.  That's the way it works. The X session is your shell in that case.
[06:54] <prego> hawke, but, shells/bash have two modes for performance reasons and if I log via gdm that is lost
[06:54] <bascule> well is is a rties and tested philosophy
[06:54] <prego> hawke_, I understand your last point. Thanks.
[06:55] <whorush> so i was just wondering if firefox should be updated wtih an apt-get update and then upgrade
[06:55] <bascule> bborkk: drop the 4 ... sheesh
[06:55] <bascule> gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg
[06:56] <prego> hawke_, dstevens, from now on I always will enable "login shell" at my gnome-terminal profiles
[06:57] <prego> that option has a weird name in my locale ;.P
[06:58] <hawke_> prego: That's probably the easiest solution
[06:58] <Kokey> somthing it's wrong with gnome in hoary?
[06:58] <hawke_> prego: Personally, I think the distinction between login and non-login shells is rather pointless.  But there's probably some historical reason for it.
[06:59] <thoreauputic> Kokey: or just, something's wrong with gnome ;-)
[06:59] <Kokey> do not start up, don't display the applets and get freeze
[06:59] <Kokey> thoreauputic, hehehehe
[06:59] <Kokey> I have to install xfce :P
[06:59] <prego> hawke_, there is the reason of the scripts
[06:59] <thoreauputic> apt-get install fluxbox :)
[07:00] <prego> hawke_, however scripts user sh and users use more advanced shells
[07:00] <prego> user -> use
[07:01] <crypticreign> strange, nautilus doesnt respond when starting the command from bash
[07:02] <lucas_brazil> hi! i'm trying to configure my soundcard but i'm not getting it to work, anyone would help me please?
[07:03] <whorush> what kind of sound card, i'm also trying to get mine to work
[07:04] <whorush> mine is integrated into my nforce2 chipset
[07:06] <lucas_brazil> mine is a Creative ViBRA16X, i'm trying to install module snd_sb16, and it won't work because it can't allocate the resources.
[07:06] <evarlast> ISAPNP is a PITA
[07:06] <whorush> right, i went to the device manager and i see it there, and it looks like there is a driver for it, but it doesnt play
[07:06] <lucas_brazil> what is PITA?
[07:07] <whorush> it says nforce2 ac97 audio controller (mcp)
[07:07] <evarlast> pita = pain in the ass
[07:07] <thoreauputic> lucas_brazil: pain in the a*
[07:07] <lucas_brazil> oh.... in fact!
[07:08] <whorush> ok, here's a question
[07:09] <thoreauputic> crypticreign: try strace nautilus t see what nautilus has a problem with
[07:09] <whorush> i remember the nforce chipsets not having open source dirvers
[07:09] <duncanm> on my other boxes, less can show the listing of compressed files
[07:09] <whorush> so they arent supported in linux
[07:09] <duncanm> how do i do the same on ubuntu?
[07:10] <lucas_brazil> in fact isapnp detects the card, but it can't install the module, even though i put it in /etc/modules
[07:10] <whorush> do you guys know what i mean?
[07:10] <lucas_brazil> do you know wich are the commands that deal with isa
[07:10] <JDigital> Should by screen be running at 68.9KHz? I think that might be giving me eye-strain.
[07:10] <crypticreign> thoreauputic: ok
[07:10] <JDigital> because I've been getting eyestrain or something ever since installing ubuntu
[07:10] <Xappe> whorush, i have a nforce2 onboard sound card, and it worked out of the box with ubuntu. have no harware mixing though, so i'm stuck with the sucky sound servers
[07:11] <lucas_brazil> i've gone once into a forum, where there is a topic on Debian and nForce2, maybe if you search there you could get some light.
[07:11] <WeirdAl> how do I send a message beginning with / in xchat? Ctrl-enter doesn't work :-\
[07:11] <JDigital> /
[07:11] <JDigital> er
[07:11] <JDigital> start the line with an extra slash
[07:11] <JDigital> //like this
[07:11] <spiral> hi everybody
[07:11] <WeirdAl> Oh :-)
[07:11] <WeirdAl> Learn something new every day.
[07:11] <JDigital> yeah
[07:12] <WeirdAl> And then you blog it.
[07:12] <WeirdAl> 'lo spiral
[07:12] <JDigital> how do I change the vertical refresh rate
[07:13] <tritium> Hey there WeirdAl!
[07:14] <whorush> it worked out of the box for you, eh?
[07:14] <whorush> where was that forum?
[07:14] <whorush> nvidia has linux drivers for the nf
[07:14] <whorush> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_nforce_1.0-0292
[07:15] <whorush> i remember that open source distros didnt support them since they werent open soruce
[07:15] <whorush> but maybe those would do the trick?
[07:15] <whorush> do you guys think i should try?
[07:15] <Goshawk> is there someone that uses openoffice on hoary?
[07:15] <tritium> WeirdAl, how is the java .deb working for you?
[07:15] <crimsun> Goshawk: I do.
[07:15] <Goshawk> (it's not an ambiguos question)
[07:16] <crypticreign> i cant get openoffice to do anything on warty
[07:16] <Goshawk> crimsun, can you apoen a writer document write someting and save?
[07:16] <crypticreign> it starts.. but then freezes when you try to do anything
[07:16] <Goshawk> it crashes!
[07:16] <tritium> I have it installed, but only use it to view M$ files that people send me.
[07:16] <crimsun> Goshawk: absolutely, just did that about 10 minutes ago
[07:16] <Goshawk> like on mine
[07:16] <Xappe> whorush, maybe the restricted modules? (if you don't have them already)
[07:16] <Goshawk> crimsun, in the sense that it crashs or not?
[07:17] <WeirdAl> lo tritium
[07:17] <Goshawk> i've tried it 2 times
[07:17] <WeirdAl> Azureus works :-)
[07:17] <lucas_brazil> anyone has some clue on how to setup my isa Creative ViBRA 16X?
[07:17] <crimsun> Goshawk: does not crash.
[07:17] <tritium> Glad to hear it.
[07:17] <WeirdAl> Guess the JRE works then
[07:17] <tritium> :)
[07:17] <Goshawk> crimsun, are you in amd64?
[07:17] <crimsun> Goshawk: i686 (Pentium 4)
[07:18] <WeirdAl> So what's the best IDE that'll run on Ubuntu?
[07:18] <Goshawk> me too!
[07:18] <LaurenceRowe> emacs ;-)
[07:18] <Goshawk> it's very strange
[07:18] <WeirdAl> Shup Laurence :-P
[07:18] <thor|afk> WeirdAl: you could try Anjuta

[07:18] <LaurenceRowe> there's always eclipse if you do java
[07:18] <crimsun> Goshawk: are you saving as .sxw?
[07:18] <WeirdAl> I was gonna see if there was onw that'd do anything.
[07:19] <apal> Hi there
[07:19] <apal> Would someone help me ? I have a compilation problem
[07:19] <Goshawk> crimsun, just cliccking the save button (the floppy disk button at the bar)
[07:19] <thor|afk> WeirdAl: anjuta is in universe
[07:19] <crimsun> Goshawk: mine works fine.
[07:19] <Goshawk> -__-
[07:19] <Goshawk> crimsun, openoffice 1.1.3?
[07:20] <lucas_brazil> bye folks, other time i will return
[07:20] <WeirdAl> I'm googling so I can have a look at it :-)
[07:20] <tritium> WeirdAl, apt-cache show anjuta
[07:21] <tritium> that'll give you some info on it
[07:21] <crimsun> Goshawk: [1.1.3-2.3ubuntu8]
[07:22] <prego> WeirdAl, Nedit for me
[07:22] <prego> (not an IDE, though)
[07:22] <WeirdAl> I guessed :-P
[07:22] <Goshawk> me too -__-
[07:23] <tritium> mdz, thanks for the mythtv packages.  They're great!
[07:23] <Goshawk> uhm... there is also openoffice.org2
[07:23] <prego> WeirdAl, Anjuta is in bypass... soon Anjuta2 is to be released
[07:23] <Goshawk> gonna try it
[07:23] <WeirdAl> I think I'll stick to the sourceforge homepage to see what it can do :-)
[07:23] <WeirdAl> If it doesn't have a class browser then it's gonna be demoted to the level of Codewarrior.
[07:23] <WeirdAl> And that's Not A Good Place
[07:24] <calvin> anyone have a moment to help getting perl working with Apache2?
[07:25] <prego> WeirdAl, Nedit has not class browser. Anjuta has. There is also the "sourcenavigator" RH thing...
[07:25] <calvin> perl is fine, apache is fine, but when i try to execute a .pl file it gives me the Open/Save dialog
[07:26] <calvin> i have the .load symlink created in mods-enabled
[07:26] <echylo> hello
[07:26] <echylo> how hard can a hoary update be?
[07:27] <WeirdAl> Does Anjuta happen to be compatible with MSDEV .NET?
[07:27] <calvin> any apache2 experts out there?
[07:28] <thor|afk> WeirdAl: you're kidding, right?
[07:28] <Echylo> what's wrong calvin?
[07:28] <Echylo> php prob?
[07:28] <calvin> hi, thanks
[07:28] <prego> Echylo, about 600Mb hard
[07:29] <calvin> the problem is that when i open a .pl file in a browser i get the Open/Save dialog
[07:29] <Echylo> a perl?
[07:29] <calvin> yes
[07:29] <calvin> php is working fine
[07:29] <Echylo> have you installed the libapache2-perl ??
[07:29] <calvin> yes
[07:29] <Echylo> hmm
[07:29] <Echylo> have you restarted apace?
[07:29] <Echylo> apache
[07:29] <Echylo> 2
[07:29] <Echylo> :p
[07:29] <Echylo> hmm prego its busy downloading
[07:29] <calvin> yes
[07:29] <Echylo> hmm
[07:30] <Echylo> have you tried to reinstall apache2 ?
[07:30] <calvin> i've also created a symlink in mods-enabled
[07:30] <Echylo> hmm
[07:30] <calvin> no, i haven't
[07:30] <Echylo> well try just to reinstall
[07:30] <calvin> i won't lose any config will i?
[07:30] <Echylo> ow
[07:30] <Echylo> I think you will
[07:30] <Echylo> apache2 will autoconfig it again I guess
[07:31] <Echylo> as far as I know
[07:31] <WeirdAl> thor -- no
[07:31] <calvin> it took some tinkering to get php working and i'd hate to redo it...
[07:31] <WeirdAl> Why would I be kidding?
[07:31] <Echylo> well I had probs with php too
[07:31] <Echylo> but I think reinstalling it helped
[07:31] <WeirdAl> If it does MSDEV as well, then I can compile and test on the only computer that's gonna be capable of running it.
[07:31] <WeirdAl> After all, Open Office supports Word XP
[07:31] <calvin> do you have perl working on your server?
[07:32] <calvin> anything you had to do besides installing the module?
[07:32] <Echylo> I just installed modules
[07:32] <Echylo> then apache2
[07:32] <Echylo> and maked sure that apache was removed
[07:32] <Echylo> (1)
[07:32] <calvin> ok, here goes
[07:32] <Echylo> don't be mad if it doesn't work
[07:33] <DagaZ> anyone here set up ldap in ubuntu warty?
[07:33] <entius> To allow FTP through IPTABLES, it is enough to open source and destination ports 20 and 21, right? i cannot access to ftp repositories debian-marillat with synaptic and i guess it is an iptables bad configuration ...
[07:33] <njan> entius, no, it's not. Firewalling FTP is a pita.
[07:34] <entius> what is a pita?
[07:34] <entius> very complex?
[07:34] <njan> pain in the arse :)
[07:34] <entius> ok
[07:34] <njan> bbiab
[07:35] <calvin> ok, i removed and reinstalled apache2
[07:35] <entius> the problem is that iptables is implemented in a router that closes everything by default. I have opened ports 20 and 21, are you suggesting to open all ports marked with SYN, ...?
[07:35] <calvin> still having the .pl problem
[07:35] <Echylo> hmm
[07:35] <Echylo> restarted apache?
[07:36] <Echylo> but he does that
[07:36] <Echylo> so
[07:36] <fsc> has anybody been playing around the xgl server?
[07:36] <Echylo> sure that the lib for apache2 is installed?
[07:37] <Echylo> I'm not much helpy am I
[07:37] <calvin> yes, i doublechecked with dpkg -i
[07:37] <Echylo> any1 else can help calvin with his apache2 prob?
[07:37] <calvin> dpkg -l, i mean
[07:38] <calvin> do i need a perl.conf file?
[07:38] <walexy> hello
[07:38] <calvin> in addition to perl.load?
[07:38] <calvin> hi
[07:38] <Echylo> this is as far my apache knowledge reaches
[07:38] <calvin> can you check to see if you have an perl.conf file?
[07:38] <calvin> in /etc/apache2/mods-available/
[07:38] <Echylo> I don't have perl installed
[07:39] <calvin> oh, ok
[07:39] <entius> calvin, could you repeat your problem?
[07:39] <evarlast> calvin: you need mod_cgi installed.
[07:39] <evarlast> calvin: and you need to run the .pl file either in a script aliased directory, or enable pl as a cig extension
[07:39] <evarlast> s/cig/cgi/
[07:40] <walexy> has anyone here had trouble witht their keyboard locking up when installing uduntu?
[07:40] <walexy> er ubuntu
[07:40] <DagaZ> walexy: nope..
[07:40] <bretzel> calvin: Just in case you would be interested: I've downloaded and installed XAMPP for linux (http://www.apachefriends.org) and seems to work great for my needs ...
[07:41] <calvin> do you know the name of the cgi deb?
[07:41] <evarlast> calvin: its part of std. apache.
[07:42] <evarlast> calvin: just make sure that it is enabled.  /etc/apache2/mods-enabled should symlink to /etc/apache2/mods-available/cgi.log
[07:42] <evarlast> s/log/load/
[07:43] <evarlast> calvin: maybe you need : AddHandler cgi-script .pl
[07:43] <crypticreign> jeesh gedit wont even start
[07:43] <neighborlee> did they change the repository ?..i'm trying (  warty) to install gftp after fresh install and its complaining ( synaptic) that  gftp: depends: gftp-gtk but 2.0.17-6ubuntu0-2 is to be installed and that gftp-text: but it is not going to be installed ..anyone seeing this ??;-))
[07:44] <IRCsloth> quick question: Looking to make a change to my grub.conf (running hoary) but I can't seem to find it. Am I blind or does ubuntu not use a grub.conf?
[07:44] <calvin> evarlast, that was right
[07:44] <crypticreign> actually.. i cant get any programs to start now
[07:45] <calvin> i needed Addhandler for .pl
[07:45] <prego> IRCsloth, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:45] <calvin> now i'm past the Open/Save dialog and am getting a permissions error instead
[07:45] <calvin> yeah, progress!
[07:45] <IRCsloth> prego: thanks!
[07:45] <darkxsun> can any U.S. ubuntu/shipit users tell me how long it took them to receive ubuntu cd's through the system?
[07:47] <crypticreign> i need to figure out what is making everything stop responding
[07:48] <thoreauputic> neighborlee: yes, I see the same thing on gftp when attempting dist-upgrade : something is broken
[07:48] <Echylo> how long does ubuntu upgrade to hoary takes after downloading the packages
[07:48] <WeirdAl> What do I do with .a files?
[07:48] <Echylo> or is that system depended
[07:48] <neighborlee> thoreauputic, oh ok thx ;l-)
[07:49] <apal_> Hello there
[07:49] <neighborlee> thoreauputic, also yeah..I was searching through forum and found someone else with the issue...thx for verification as well
[07:49] <neighborlee> thoreauputic, I think its a plot to get us to use the feature in nautilius LOL
[07:49] <apal_> Would someone say me how to fix this problem ?
[07:49] <apal_> Library requirements (gtkglext-1.0) not met
[07:49] <walexy> anyone here running ubuntu on blue/white g3?
[07:50] <thoreauputic> neighborlee: which feature is that?
[07:50] <ompaul> WeirdAl, why not give us a clue with a full name and path of this file
[07:50] <WeirdAl> I apt-got anjuta and now I have some .a files, some .la files, and some .so/.so.0/.so.0.0 type files...
[07:51] <walexy> installing ubuntu has been a pain
[07:51] <WeirdAl> There's libanjuta_clsGen.a
[07:51] <ompaul> WeirdAl, okay
[07:51] <WeirdAl> libanjuta_patch
[07:51] <ompaul> WeirdAl, context is always good :)
[07:51] <WeirdAl> libanjuta_sample1
[07:52] <tritium> WeirdAl, you didn't install anjuta from apt?
[07:52] <WeirdAl> Well I like to ask broad questions in case there's a broad answer. Gets things done quicker :-)
[07:52] <WeirdAl> I did. I did apt-get install anjuta and I got these.
[07:52] <walexy> Keyboard locks up at the reboot screen, and apparently files have to be moved and edited in the console before the install will work properly
[07:52] <tritium> WeirdAl, got what?  Where?
[07:52] <WeirdAl> these .a files I've been talking about.
[07:53] <WeirdAl> in /usr/lib/anjuta
[07:53] <tritium> ok
[07:53] <ompaul> WeirdAl, you are looking at library files - common resources that might just be used by the program
[07:53] <tritium> WeirdAl, so what's the question?
[07:53] <WeirdAl> Well if I don't need to do anything with these .a files, where's the program at?
[07:53] <Echylo> ./a
[07:53] <Echylo> :p
[07:53] <Echylo> ow
[07:53] <thoreauputic> WeirdAl: just type anjuta
[07:53] <Echylo> nvm
[07:54] <Echylo> this is pure nonsense
[07:54] <ompaul> WeirdAl, type which anjunta
[07:54] <apal_> Please, can someone explain me how to install the "gtkglext-1.0" in Warty ?
[07:54] <Madeye> guys, is there a program to show me the Caller ID when phone ring?
[07:54] <thoreauputic> WeirdAl: it should also be in your menu
[07:54] <WeirdAl> That's what I thought
[07:54] <WeirdAl> I was looking for it in the filesystem because I couldn't find it in the menu
[07:55] <ompaul> WeirdAl, that will tell you where it lives on the machine before it calls to the /usr/lib/ajunta directory for resources that it wants
[07:55] <WeirdAl> It's telling me it's in /usr/bin/anjuta...
[07:55] <WeirdAl> which means I need to run nautilus with sudo to see it.
[07:55] <thoreauputic> WeirdAl: yup
[07:55] <WeirdAl> :-
[07:55] <WeirdAl> :-)
[07:56] <thoreauputic> WeirdAl: that's the binary - not much use looking at that is there?
[07:56] <ompaul> WeirdAl, or you could just type /usr/bin/ajunta or because that path (/usr/bin/) is available to you typing ajunta should make it work
[07:56] <PacoBCN> Hi people. A friend of mine just told me he can't install Ubuntu in his new computer because it doesn't recognize the USB keyboard. Anyone with the same problem?
[07:57] <WeirdAl> Well I was using Nautilus to find something I could use to create a launcher.
[07:57] <walexy> <--PACO
[07:57] <WeirdAl> According to Nautilus, the only thing in /usr/bin is X11
[07:57] <walexy> I'm having the same problem
[07:58] <thoreauputic> WeirdAl: well, there's a bucket load of stuff in /usr/bin - trust me
[07:58] <walexy> I can get through most of the install screens but if I wait too long the keyboard will just lock up
[07:58] <WeirdAl> thor: that's what I thought..
[07:58] <WeirdAl> But the fact I couldn't see any scared me, so I decided to ask :-)
[07:58] <topyli> WeirdAl: my /usr/bin has 2022 files
[07:58] <calvin> ok, any Apache people out there now?
[07:58] <thoreauputic> so just make your launcher and type anjuta or /usr/bin/anjuta in the command field
[07:58] <WeirdAl> It's OK though because I worked out what I was doing wrong ages ago.
[07:59] <walexy> no lookin for ubuntu people
[07:59] <ompaul> WeirdAl, don't be scared, be curious :)
[07:59] <calvin> i'm trying to setup perl with apache2
[07:59] <calvin> making progress, but getting a 403 forbidden error trying to browse to a perl script
[07:59] <WeirdAl> This "[18:54]  <ompaul> WeirdAl, type which anjunta" was when I realised I was looking for a separate directory for anjuta
[08:00] <walexy> sounds like a permissions error
[08:00] <IorGie> someone here expericence with software raid 0?
[08:00] <WeirdAl> The reason I didn't find it in bin is because I was looking in the tree for it.
[08:00] <PacoBCN> Hi people. A friend of mine just told me he can't install Ubuntu in his new computer because it doesn't recognize the USB keyboard. Anyone with the same problem?
[08:00] <thoreauputic> WeirdAl: ah IC  ;)
[08:01] <walexy> Paco: I'm having the same problem
[08:01] <PacoBCN> Walexy, did you find a way to fix it?
[08:01] <prego> WeirdAl, Write down 100 times "I will use spatial Nautilus" ;-P
[08:01] <walexy> nope, that's why I'm here
[08:01] <prego> (then the simpsons begin)
[08:01] <IorGie> @PacoBCN: no problems here. Try using the ps/2 adapter
[08:01] <walexy> I'm trying to install ubuntu on my blue/white g3
[08:02] <topyli> nobody uses spatial to browse root filesystem i guess :)
[08:02] <PacoBCN> the problem is that new computers don't come with ps2 plugs anymore
[08:02] <prego> toffy, I do
[08:02] <PacoBCN> so can't plug an old keyboard
[08:02] <prego> topyli, I do
[08:02] <prego> toffy, sorry
[08:02] <IorGie> new keyboards come with an adapter :D
[08:02] <PacoBCN> walexy, did you ever had any answer from developers?
[08:02] <topyli> hmm. you get lots of windows i guess
[08:02] <walexy> paco: can your friend use the keyboard at all?
[08:03] <PacoBCN> at all
[08:03] <PacoBCN> doesn't recognize it
[08:03] <walexy> I'ne searched the forums and googled it but I didn't find an answer. That's why I'm here
[08:03] <prego> PacoBCN, I guess the install CD is not aware of that kind of configuration
[08:03] <walexy> paco: is it a mac?
[08:03] <PacoBCN> nop
[08:03] <prego> walexy, he he, a mac mini ?
[08:03] <PacoBCN> dell dimension 5000
[08:04] <ompaul> WeirdAl, maybe having a look at this information on file system layout might be useful
[08:04] <ompaul> WeirdAl,  http://www.tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/sect_03_02.html
[08:04] <WeirdAl> thanks omp
[08:04] <WeirdAl> :-)
[08:04] <walexy> mac mini
[08:04] <walexy> is anyone buying those things
[08:04] <ompaul> WeirdAl, read it and be at one with the file system
[08:04] <prego> PacoBCN, Did you try the live CDs? (warty or hoary)?
[08:04] <PacoBCN> he tryed both
[08:05] <topyli> prego: desktops are spatial, filesystems are not IMO
[08:05] <prego> prego, and did'nt success
[08:05] <thoreauputic> walexy: why would they not? Amazing little machines....
[08:05] <PacoBCN> I guess this is something they will have to solve
[08:06] <prego> topyli, probably. however I prefer playing spatial nowadays. Perhaps because I'm fool and it sounds cool ;-)
[08:06] <PacoBCN> because they're cutting off a lot of people
[08:06] <walexy> Seems like too much for little to me. But to each his own
[08:06] <ompaul> walexy, hang on til I hack apples sales dept, then I can answer your question :-)  [according to another channel you can wait anything from a day to several weeks for one depending on where you order it]
[08:06] <darkxsun> can any U.S. ubuntu/shipit users tell me how long it took them to receive ubuntu cd's through the system?
[08:06] <Epicurus> hi there
[08:06] <prego> PacoBCN, Not so much people, but I'sure that it will be solved soon
[08:06] <walexy> :)
[08:06] <PacoBCN> Prego, Epicurus is my friend
[08:06] <topyli> prego: go ahead, you can be a spatial pioneer :)
[08:06] <Epicurus> hi prego
[08:06] <PacoBCN> He'll be able to describe better his problem
[08:07] <ompaul> darkxsun, slower than downloading it on torrent and building a bootable CD, which leaves out the randomness of the US post
[08:07] <Epicurus> it's just as you said paco ... it doesn't boot
[08:07] <Epicurus> sorry
[08:07] <prego> PacoBCN, Epicurus I see the problem...
[08:07] <Epicurus> it doesn't work
[08:07] <darkxsun> ompaul: not on dial-up
[08:07] <walexy> the disk doesn't boot?
[08:07] <WillCooke> Anyone know about evms?!
[08:07] <PacoBCN> Prego, which type of adaptors were you talking about?
[08:07] <ompaul> darkxsun, do you know anyone with broadband?
[08:07] <Epicurus> prego : I tried to disable ACPI, APIC, whatever .... but that didn't help either
[08:08] <walexy> PS/2
[08:08] <Epicurus> prego : I tried to search a "Legacy keyboard support" option in the BIOS but I was unluky as well ...
[08:08] <prego> PacoBCN, Sorry, you are confusing the poster... but if you had a ps2 port you might plug a keyboard there
[08:08] <PacoBCN> walexy, it has no ps/2 connector
[08:08] <PacoBCN> just USB
[08:08] <Epicurus> prego : I can boot knoppix and use the keyboard anyway
[08:08] <walexy> maybe updating the firmware will work
[08:08] <darkxsun> ompaul: yea, a couple...
[08:09] <prego> Epicurus, then it is as I said a problem of that choice not be considered yet in ubuntu
[08:09] <marcin_ant> hello - I got a question about user programs menu - applications:/// in nautilus doesn't work - is this broken in hoary?
[08:09] <PacoBCN> Epicuris, weird, Knoppix should work as well as LiveCD
[08:09] <ompaul> darkxsun, it might be worth your while to ask them and have it in a couple of hours
[08:09] <darkxsun> ompaul: ok. thanks.
[08:09] <prego> marcin_ant, no longer in hoary :-((
[08:09] <walexy> prego, what do you mean?
[08:09] <Epicurus> prego : any solution in sight ? Or should I switch back to fedora ? :(
[08:09] <PacoBCN> Epicurus, I've read about a way to install from LIVECD
[08:10] <prego> I mean that if Knoppix can and ubuntu cannot is because that configuration has not yet been considered by the installer
[08:10] <Epicurus> PacoBCN : doesn't matter ... neither LIVECD nor InstallCD have the keyb working
[08:10] <PacoBCN> just wondering if debian is able to install
[08:10] <walexy> Epicurus: my usb keyboard works with limited success but I'm on a mac
[08:10] <PacoBCN> you can always migrate from Debian
[08:10] <Epicurus> prego: I see ... is there anyway I can contact the developers ?
[08:10] <prego> Epicurus, there is a solution, AFAIK, you could install knoppix and convert it to ubuntu. Don't ask me how, but people here sometimes do that kind of things
[08:11] <PacoBCN> Epicurus, in the forum
[08:11] <Epicurus> prego : that's a very NASTY thing
[08:11] <walexy> is the USB thing a red herring?
[08:11] <prego> Epicurus, sure it is. You may wait a bit.
[08:11] <Epicurus> PacoBCN : someother people already complained about this problem in the forum and nobody answered ...
[08:11] <prego> Epicurus, probably when hoary becomes stable that will be solved
[08:12] <Epicurus> ok, then i'll have to wait
[08:12] <Epicurus> :(
[08:12] <Benjamin_L> is the current "focus" method of metacity intended ? its not very intuitive atm ?
[08:12] <prego> It's a pitty
[08:12] <PacoBCN> Probably asking about it in the Hoary forum
[08:12] <prego> PacoBCN, Not going to see the match?
[08:12] <PacoBCN> I support Real Madrid, Prego :D
[08:12] <walexy> I'm sorry to be such a pain, but tons of people have successfully installed using USB keyboards
[08:13] <prego> PacoBCN, :-(((( ;-P
[08:13] <walexy> it has got to be something else
[08:13] <Epicurus> ah coo, si los tres hablamos castellano :D
[08:13] <larsrohdin> hi, how can i make ubuntu not syncronizing the clock on the net?
[08:13] <prego> Epicurus, walexy PacoBCN I have not experience at all with USB keyboards.
[08:13] <Epicurus> walexy : yes ... I knwo ... but not me!! maybe it's something about the dell dimension 5000
[08:13] <marcin_ant> prego: why it this broken or there is another solution?
[08:14] <prego> At the beginning it sound weird so I supposed that it was not supported. Sorry if I have disturbed you.
[08:14] <thoreauputic> larsrohdin: on boot, or any time? On boot I just hold down Ctrl-C when that bit arrives in the sequence (if I'm not connected)
[08:15] <prego> marcin_ant, because menus follow the freedesktop policy, and there is not a GUI for changing them right now
[08:15] <brad1> sorry i got cut fof
[08:15] <brad1> off
[08:15] <larsrohdin> thoreauputic, sorry i wasn't so specific... i mean on boot.
[08:15] <prego> marcin_ant, I guess someone is working to make that possible
[08:15] <brad1> whiprush
[08:15] <marcin_ant> prego: I really don't get it
[08:15] <brad1> i downloaded 4.10 last night
[08:15] <walexy> the whole keyboard thing is a frustrating problem
[08:15] <Epicurus> is it possible to upgrade from woody to ubuntu ?
[08:15] <brad1> and it installed firefox 0.9.3
[08:15] <larsrohdin> thoreauputic, ctrl c... but isn't it possible to disable it somehow?
[08:15] <marcin_ant> prego: AFAIK davyd was working on this to enable menus editing in 2.10
[08:16] <marcin_ant> prego: and now what?
[08:16] <prego> marcin_ant, the SAME menus are now available through both gnome and KDE
[08:16] <marcin_ant> prego: there will not be any way to edit menus in future in gnome?
[08:16] <prego> marcin_ant, now you can wait or to see how to manually editing them :-(
[08:16] <thoreauputic> larsrohdin: well, yes I guess in the /etc/init.d/ntpdate script or somewhere like that
[08:16] <prego> marcin_ant, I don't know but I really expect so!
[08:17] <prego> marcin_ant, I mean I expect they will be editable again
[08:17] <Echylo> stupid question
[08:17] <marcin_ant> prego: I understand that developers want them to be compatible with freedesktop spec
[08:17] <prego> marcin_ant, perhaps it is just a question of writting a new gnome_vfs plugin for the new menus or sth like that
[08:17] <jono> somehow I changed my login screen where you click on a username and then type password, how do I change it back to the default?
[08:17] <Echylo> can you add someone to a conversation in gaim
[08:17] <Echylo> and how?
[08:17] <marcin_ant> prego: but for me it's yet another feature regression in gnome :(
[08:17] <larsrohdin> thoreauputic, any idea on what i can change in that file to disable it?
[08:18] <prego> marcin_ant, let's hope it is yet another transient feature regression
[08:18] <thoreauputic> larsrohdin: umm ... I'd have to look (I don't bother)
[08:18] <prego> marcin_ant, perhaps you have to use KDE to edit the menus :-P
[08:19] <prego> have to go... I suport Bara ;-) see you soon
[08:19] <thoreauputic> larsrohdin: you could probably disable it with the update-rc.d utility
[08:20] <Benjamin_L> how do i disable this stupid focussing in metacity ?
[08:20] <thoreauputic> larsrohdin: update-rc.d - install and remove System-V style init script links  (from the man page)
[08:20] <larsrohdin> i found something in the ubuntu guide
[08:21] <topyli> Benjamin_L: what sort of focusing?
[08:21] <meuserj|work> Benjamin_L, how is metacity focus not intuitive?
[08:21] <larsrohdin> im going to try it out
[08:21] <Benjamin_L> meuserj|work, well do you want to put new opened windows under all existing ones ?
[08:21] <Benjamin_L> or generally new ones under existing ones, happens on several ocasions
[08:22] <meuserj|work> Benjamin_L, haven't experienced that myself
[08:22] <topyli> hmm.
[08:22] <Echylo> how long does update to hoary takes
[08:22] <Echylo> after the fetching
[08:22] <Benjamin_L> opening nautilus when chatting here puts it anywhere but on top
[08:23] <dstevens> Has anyone had problems compiling Asterisk on ubuntu, it squeeking about ssl.
[08:23] <topyli> Benjamin_L: what do you use for irc?
[08:23] <thoreauputic> Benjamin_L:  you might want to search the mailing list archive - I seem to recall this has come up
[08:23] <Benjamin_L> topyli, xchat as provided with ubuntu
[08:24] <Benjamin_L> thoreauputic, is there a metacity specific one ?
[08:24] <topyli> perhaps you have xchat set as "always on top" :)
[08:24] <Benjamin_L> of gnome
[08:24] <Benjamin_L> or
[08:24] <thoreauputic> Benjamin_L: I just meant the users list
[08:24] <thoreauputic> for Ubuntu
[08:24] <Benjamin_L> ah ok
[08:25] <meuserj|work> Benjamin_L, sorry, but I haven't experienced that at all... whenever I open a new window, it is on top.  Reguardless of which focus behavior I choose.
[08:26] <Epicurus> bye bye
[08:27] <Echylo> anybody who knows this game?
[08:27] <Echylo> http://tmptue.nl.eu.org/edsger/gamequiz0.gif
[08:29] <goldfish_> Echylo: xenon
[08:29] <Echylo> sure?
[08:30] <goldfish_> could be xenon 2
[08:30] <Echylo> it's a windows game I think
[08:30] <goldfish_> yeah
[08:30] <goldfish_> windows game
[08:30] <goldfish_> made by the bitmap brothers
[08:30] <Echylo> thanks :)
[08:30] <goldfish_> np
[08:31] <goldfish_> looks like it is xenon 2
[08:32] <sewoyl> make me think of raptor i kindof liked that game
[08:32] <Echylo> or tyrian
[08:32] <Echylo> but it isn't
[08:32] <sewoyl> but raptor was with some fighter jet
[08:32] <sewoyl> tyrian also! gosh I had forgotten that name ^^
[08:32] <Echylo> :)
[08:33] <sewoyl> some good  memories :)
[08:33] <Echylo> maybe it's older for you then for me
[08:33] <Echylo> ;)
[08:33] <Echylo> which was a subtile question for your age
[08:33] <Echylo> :p
[08:33] <goldfish_> haha
[08:36] <Echylo> i'm 17 btw
[08:36] <Echylo> so It's not that long ago
[08:36] <Echylo> since I've played those games
[08:36] <Echylo> and I compute since I am
[08:36] <thoreauputic> Echylo:  Whippersnapper!
[08:36] <Echylo> 7
[08:36] <Echylo> I think
[08:36] <Echylo> is that an insult thoreauputic ?
[08:37] <thoreauputic> no, an endearment, really ;)
[08:37] <sewoyl> Echylo, I'm not much older I'm 21
[08:37] <Echylo> is it german again?
[08:37] <Echylo> ow ok ;)
[08:37] <thoreauputic> no
[08:37] <Echylo> its still 4 years full of games
[08:37] <Echylo> it looks like schnappie
[08:37] <Echylo> das kleine krokodil
[08:37] <Echylo> :P
[08:37] <Echylo> but I won't sing it
[08:38] <Echylo> cause it's horrible
[08:38] <Pluk> schnappie is cool!
[08:38] <Echylo> tomorrow I go to germany btw
[08:38] <Echylo> for 2 days
[08:38] <Echylo> trier
[08:38] <Pluk> nice
[08:38] <Echylo> & manderscheid
[08:38] <sewoyl> Echylo, where are you now?
[08:38] <Echylo> belgium
[08:38] <Benjamin_L> schnappie yeah ^^ but i kinda like tweety better ;)
[08:39] <sewoyl> Echylo, same here ^^
[08:39] <Echylo> namur?
[08:39] <Echylo> :p
[08:39] <Pluk> nothing beats bender
[08:39] <sewoyl> Echylo, ^^not too far
[08:39] <Echylo> Tiscali! Goplus Fastdsl
[08:39] <Echylo> is your whois telling me
[08:39] <Echylo> pretty much people from belgium using ubuntu
[08:40] <sewoyl> yeah and you are on skynet ... didn't you watch the Terminator ? You'll be respondible of the end of mankind!
[08:40] <Echylo> why?
[08:40] <sewoyl> responsible*
[08:40] <goldfish_> Echylo: Where is that quiz you are doing?
[08:40] <sewoyl> Echylo, skynet is the name of the super computer that want to take over the world in the Terminator series
[08:40] <Echylo> ow
[08:40] <Echylo> goldfish
[08:41] <Echylo> is a dutch site
[08:41] <goldfish_> ah right :)
[08:41] <Echylo> www.tweaking-gamers.com
[08:41] <hypn0> sewoyl: its a film :-P
[08:41] <Echylo> you can still check out the pictures
[08:41] <goldfish_> cool
[08:41] <goldfish_> thanks
[08:41] <Echylo> games algemeen
[08:41] <Echylo> the last topic I posted in I guess
[08:41] <sewoyl> hypn0, you know I was joking, right ? ^^
[08:41] <topyli> the computer that will take over the world will probably run ubuntu
[08:42] <sewoyl> lol
[08:42] <topyli> or longhorn perhaps, the armageddon is nearing
[08:42] <hypn0> sewoyl: yep, i just couldnt resist :-)
[08:42] <Echylo> lol topyli
[08:43] <Echylo> just call it microsoft in general
[08:43] <topyli> prepare!
[08:43] <Echylo> well
[08:43] <Echylo> damn
[08:43] <Echylo> that updating takes long
[08:43] <Echylo> its unpacking things now
[08:43] <Echylo> office stuff
[08:43] <Echylo> unpacking & replacing
[08:44] <Echylo> and I guess it isn't alphabetic
[08:44] <topyli> hmm. Echylo's upgrade took over #ubuntu at least that's for sure :)
[08:44] <Echylo> ?
[08:44] <Echylo> I talk too much? :p
[08:44] <topyli> heh
[08:44] <Benjamin_L> ^^
[08:45] <Echylo> damn
[08:45] <Echylo> well compare me to the donkey in shrek 2
[08:45] <Echylo> I love him
[08:45] <sewoyl> hmm Echylo, please dont redirect your stderr to this channel
[08:45] <sewoyl> lol (teasing)
[08:45] <Echylo> stderr ?
[08:46] <sewoyl> the error output! that is where all error messages are supposed to go ^^
[08:46] <Echylo> I ain't telling you errors
[08:46] <sewoyl> I know
[08:46] <Echylo> I just share my experiences
[08:47] <Echylo> now it's setting up things
[08:47] <topyli> tell us what's broken once it's finished :)
[08:47] <Echylo> omg
[08:47] <Echylo> how mean
[08:48] <Echylo> back to normal
[08:48] <thoreauputic> /lastlog Echylo nearly breaks my client here ... </joke>
[08:48] <Echylo> ok
[08:48] <Echylo> i'll shut up
[08:48] <sewoyl> Echylo, you need a blog!
[08:48] <topyli> no! i love unstable upgrades :D
[08:49] <Ignoreme> k I need a blog
[08:49] <Ignoreme> damn even this nick is owned by someone else
[08:49] <Echylo> where can you make blogs btw
[08:49] <topyli> try jennifer8392
[08:50] <topyli> Echylo: livejournal is cool, and drivel works well with it
[08:50] <Echylo> offline programs?
[08:50] <topyli> drivel
[08:51] <Echylo> but aren't there online websites?
[08:51] <Echylo> cause I really wanna irritate every1 :p
[08:51] <topyli> livejournal :)
[08:51] <Echylo> ;)
[08:51] <Echylo> but how is my english?
[08:51] <thoreauputic> Echylo: there are easier ways of achieving that... but I won't tell !
[08:51] <Echylo> do I make bad mistakes or...
[08:52] <topyli> good enough for blogging :)
[08:52] <Echylo> ah
[08:52] <Echylo> strike
[08:52] <thoreauputic> Echylo: no your english is fine :)
[08:52] <Echylo> yay
[08:52] <sewoyl> Echylo, you can use blooger.com or install your own weblog on your webspace with php/mysql : dotclear, ...
[08:52] <Echylo> tell my teacher
[08:52] <sewoyl> blogger.com not blooger
[08:53] <topyli> "ma'am, my friends on irc said my english is good" :P
[08:53] <Echylo> topyli
[08:53] <Echylo> I don't care about that
[08:53] <Echylo> I just wanna know
[08:53] <topyli> it's very good. not that i'm an expert
[08:53] <thoreauputic> heh - didn't say it was good - "fine" implies "good enough"  ;-)
[08:54] <Echylo> :(
[08:54] <Echylo> you are really friendly all today
[08:54] <Echylo> I really like it
[08:54] <thoreauputic> Echylo: I haven't noticed any big mistakes
[08:54] <Echylo> beside the fact I talk too much
[08:55] <Echylo> be happy, you have your entertainement
[08:55] <topyli> Echylo: you're better than the average netizen. the internet is more forgiving than old-skool media
[08:55] <thoreauputic> Echylo: I have limited bandwidth here... ;-)
[08:55] <Echylo> oh my
[08:55] <Echylo> that's a good one
[08:55] <Echylo> need to remember
[08:55] <topyli> Echylo: really, don't worry about it
[08:56] <Echylo> if it would be too quiet around here, you wouldn't be happy either
[08:56] <thoreauputic> Echylo: plenty of native english speakers have much worse grammar and spelling anyway - in fact I think they are often worse taught than Europeans and others
[08:57] <Echylo> :)
[08:57] <topyli> i'm taking a shower. i'm starting to smell like a human
[08:58] <hypn0> topyli: what r u :-/
[08:58] <dstevens> How do i go about reporting unmet dependencies in the repo for 'libssl-dev' ?
[08:58] <linuxn00b> Hi, i'm having touble setting up shorewall I have been floowing this guide http://www.shorewall.net/two-interface.htm#id2496032 but i'm not going antwhere :(
[08:58] <Echy|away> be happy i'm gone!
[08:59] <dstevens> Anyone use libssl-dev ?
[08:59] <thoreauputic> dstevens: do you have universe and multiverse enabled?