[00:00] <Guest39133> Barnabas: ok, thanks- I'll give it some time and post back after it goes down again..
[00:00] <Zelda> It did the same thing in 10.10 and 11.04
[00:00] <Nazosan> Zelda cat /proc/cpuinfo I guess
[00:00] <Nazosan> see if it's running full speed
[00:00] <phiscibe> you want the supported resolutions
[00:00] <zacarias> Firefox crashing. Any help?
[00:00] <akira_> ok " the following packages have unmet dependencies: liblwp-p it is not installed =6.02 butrotocol-https-perl Depends: libwww-perl (>
[00:00] <Success> it says if i install i wont get audio or desktop upgrades how get around thta
[00:00] <Nazosan> phiscibe: one thing worth noting:  the other screen is 1440x900.  I don't want my main screen limited to that if at all possible.
[00:01] <phiscibe> cvt 1280 1024
[00:01] <Zelda> Nazosan: its not running hot or blowing hot air.
[00:01] <phiscibe> will give u a line for that res
[00:01] <Nazosan> hmm
[00:01] <alilly> hi, I am on ubuntu lucid, and want to upgrade, when I try to use update-manager, it segfault ..
[00:01] <phiscibe> odeline "1280x1024_60.00"  109.00  1280 1368 1496 1712  1024 1027 1034 1063 -hsync +vsync
[00:01] <phiscibe>
[00:01] <Success> If I try to install Mythbuntu-desktop, it says that if
[00:01] <alilly> it seems that different gtk application segfault on my system
[00:01] <phiscibe> something like that, then xrander --addmode and a cople others and it shou;ld go
[00:01] <Success> I install I won't get future pulseaudio or desktop upgrades, sorry for linebreak
[00:02] <Nazosan> so we don't have to do it the painful way huh?
[00:02] <hicham> any help
[00:02] <phiscibe> i got a link on my bug list if the policy dont stop me
[00:02] <akira_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:  liblwp-protocol-https-perl : Depends: libwww-perl (>= 6.02) but it is not installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[00:02] <bazhang> phiscibe, pardon?
[00:03] <Nazosan> looks like X has to be running to use xrandr?
[00:03] <akira_> anyone know what that means? or how i can fix it?
[00:03] <Flannel> akira_: What package are you trying to install?  And what version of Ubuntu are you on?
[00:03] <bazhang> phiscibe, what bug?
[00:03] <phiscibe> long storey bazhang im bugged out i gotta leave
[00:03] <deebee> akira_: try running "sudo apt-get -f install"
[00:03] <akira_> 11.1- i was trying to install wine- as that is the only thing i have tried to install-
[00:03] <akira_> had errors ever since
[00:03] <phiscibe> mutlip monitors dual head brokeness
[00:03] <PrivateReese> sorry maybe someone in her who has some time to answer my questions about Ubuntu-Mirroring?
[00:03] <PrivateReese> *here
[00:03] <bazhang> phiscibe, whats the launchpad bug link
[00:03] <Flannel> akira_: Alright.  Wine from the official repository? or did you add a third party?
[00:03] <phiscibe> Adding undetected resolutions
[00:03] <Nazosan> actually...  Come to think of it, while I do technically have a second monitor hooked up, it is 100% powered off
[00:04] <zacarias> Firefox crashing. Any help, please?
[00:04] <phiscibe> which of many
[00:04] <Nazosan> as in unplugged
[00:04] <zacarias> Firefox 3.6.23 crashing
[00:04] <Zelda> Nazosan: Hey whats the program that I download to get my HDMI port to work with Nvidia Quadro
[00:04] <Nazosan> no clue Zelda
[00:04] <mkultra> hi everyone
[00:05] <Nazosan> phiscibe: so far when I try to use xrandr it tells me it can't open the display
[00:05] <phiscibe> not realy a bug but realy is as it has been around sicne X  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[00:05] <Nazosan> I started lightdm back up, but same error
[00:05] <Zelda> Nazosan: thanks
[00:05] <phiscibe> you gotta reboot
[00:05] <akira_> i originally went to the website- but had no idea what i was doing- then went to youtube and saw someone doing it
[00:05] <Nazosan> I mean I can't get it to give me anything at all
[00:05] <alilly> do I need to use update-manager or can I do an aptitude dist-upgrade ?
[00:05] <phiscibe> and get to a basic one monitor setup
[00:05] <akira_> typed a command to install wine? i suppose and it got all jacked up
[00:05] <Nazosan> Oh, disconnect and reboot?
[00:05] <slinkeey> nautilus still freezzes after reinstall
[00:05] <Flannel> akira_: Alright, that's probably the wrong way to do it then.  Which video did you watch on youtube?
[00:06] <phiscibe> you can boot in to windows and steel the modelines for the video card there with a tool
[00:06] <slinkeey> took it out of icon mode aND IT WORKS GREAT
[00:06] <akira_> how to install wine on 11.04 i think
[00:06] <Nazosan> I don't mind disconnecting the other monitor long enough to do that really
[00:06] <Flannel> akira_: Do you have a link?
[00:06] <Nazosan> it's just a pain to disconnect and reconnect, so I want to leave it connected long-term
[00:06] <Flannel> akira_: If not, that's fine, I'll just need to get some additional information from you.
[00:06] <phiscibe> yup
[00:06] <phiscibe> gotta eat. latter
[00:06] <Nazosan> one sec please
[00:07] <Nazosan> can you give me those commands I need to run again so I can write them down?
[00:07] <akira_> at this point no- to deebee whatever you told me to do worked
[00:07] <akira_> so error is gone-
[00:07] <akira_> to flannel- whats the best way for me to retry to install wine? i downloaded the files from wineHQ but i just put them in my dl folder
[00:07] <Flannel> deebee: Please don't ever recommend someone use -f when installing.
[00:08] <akira_> ohh thats not good?
[00:08] <deebee> akira_: I'd still stick with Flannel if you're having problems. Although it may have fixed your immediate problem, it doesn't mean you're all sorted
[00:08] <Flannel> akira_: No, you shouldn't have to force anything if everything is workign normally.
[00:08] <deebee> Flannel: I disagree
[00:08] <Flannel> deebee: That's wrong then.
[00:08] <Flannel> deebee: If you have to force something, that means you're doing something you shouldn't be doing, and are likely going to break something.
[00:09] <deebee> deebee: There are quite legitimate situations when it's suitable
[00:09] <deebee> Flannel: not true
[00:09] <Flannel> deebee: no there arent.
[00:09] <phiscibe> for the mall cop http://paste.ubuntu.com/709068/
[00:09] <somedude> is it possible to do a 32-bit install of wubi on a 64bit windows 7 computer?
[00:10] <somedude> my scanner seems to only work wiht 32bit OS so win7 and osx are out
[00:10] <Flannel> akira_: If you didn't add anything (so a default install), installing wine is as easy as 'sudo apt-get install wine', but since you've had some issues, lets assume we need to fix your sources first.
[00:11] <deebee> akira_: did you try and install it from a third party .deb?
[00:11] <Flannel> akira_: So, please pastebin ( http://kubuntu-experince.blogspot.com/
[00:11] <Flannel> oh bother.
[00:11] <Success> Ok, I'm trying to install Mythbuntu-Desktop, but it says it will stop audio and desktop updates, how do I install, without loosing the updates
[00:11] <malev> hello guys and girls!!
[00:11] <malev> how are you today?
[00:11] <malev> I've just upgraded my ubuntu
[00:11] <Flannel> akira_: So, please pastebin ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/ ) the output of `sudo apt-get update`
[00:11] <Success> malev: #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:11] <malev> Success, ... I wanted to ask some questions about ubuntu. I'm just saying Hi. Come one!
[00:12] <akira_> you want me to copy that entire shabang?
[00:12] <malev> I've disabled unity coz make my machine a bit slow. I want the bar with the indicators back. any ideas?
[00:12] <Success> ok sorry
[00:12] <Flannel> akira_: The entire output, yeah, into the pastebin website.
[00:12] <Success> ig2g guys movies
[00:13] <akira_> ok done
[00:13] <Flannel> akira_: Now you give us the link here (new URL, with some numbers at the end)
[00:13] <akira_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/709073/
[00:15] <Flannel> akira_: Alright, so yeah, you have added some new repositories.  Please pastebin the contents of the file /etc/apt/sources.list, and as a related question, do you have any files in the folder /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?
[00:15] <Nazosan> Ok, this isn't working.  Let me start over:  Anyone know how I can change the resolution of my login screen?
[00:16] <Nazosan> Sorry, I mean change it in Xubuntu
[00:17] <akira_> i just started usin this so how do i check that folder?
[00:17] <jdcard> malev: Install gnome-panel
[00:17] <malev> jdcard, thanks bro!
[00:17] <Flannel> akira_: Hah, I have no idea anymore.  Um, open a file browser, and then navigate to it.
[00:17] <akira_> lol
[00:17] <newbie|2> Barnabas: ok, I just had a few minute period of the internet (kind of) not working. I'd have called it not working before as the web browser wasnt loading pages, just 'waiting for'. the ping to google.com kept stopping for upto about 10 seconds- and the time it said the ping had taken went from ~20 to around 60. and once to 120. the ping to the router was mostly fine but sometimes peaked at  80ish
[00:17] <newbie|2> once at 176
[00:18] <newbie|2> ..and I seem to have a different name now, was Guest####
[00:18] <Flannel> akira_: We could get it in a terminal too, if you can't figure it out in the new GUI
[00:18] <akira_> im a old dos user and i prefer the terminal over the gui
[00:18] <Nazosan> console = good
[00:18] <newbie|2> Barnabas: oh and I didnt reconnect, eventually it just sped up again
[00:19] <Flannel> akira_: Alright, we can definately do that then.  ls -l /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[00:19] <de2> Hello can anyone help i got some ubuntu problems
[00:19] <kerze> How to make ubuntu faster?
[00:20] <Flannel> akira_: (you'll either get a listing of files, or if there are none, "total 0"
[00:20] <de2> My mouse gets stuck in some windows and is unclickable
[00:20] <akira_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/709080/
[00:20] <de2> for example now when i have terminal open i cant click anything else if i dont ctrl + F4 terminal
[00:21] <akira_> ppa wine
[00:21] <DEdesigns57> Does anyone here know C++, if so send me a message(Sorry if this is off topic)
[00:21] <Flannel> akira_: Alright, lets go ahead and assume that the wine ppa is the one causing problems (based solely on the filename, the contents could be anything, really)
[00:21] <deebee> newbie|2: that's starting to point towards your internet connection as the most probable cause
[00:21] <akira_> i think those other two are a document
[00:21] <Flannel> akira_: So lets remove it: sudo rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu-wine-ppa-oneiric.list (you can use tab complete!)
[00:21] <akira_> i was using to copy terminal lines for later reference
[00:22] <Flannel> akira_: Well, the second one is a backup file of the first
[00:22] <akira_> tab complete?
[00:22] <de2> Can anyone help me fix my mouse problems i cant do anything
[00:22] <Stanley00> DEdesigns57: try join ##c++ ;)
[00:22] <newbie|2> deebee: yes I was thinking that too. But its strange that if I reconnect to the wireless network its very fast instantly
[00:22] <frhodes> unity is nice
[00:22] <de2> Can anyone help me fix my mouse problems i cant do anything
[00:23] <frhodes> de2: what is the problem?
[00:23] <newbie|2> de2: try logging in with the no effects option in case its a compiz thing
[00:23] <deebee> newbie|2: explain to me exactly what's happening. You're getting intermittent drop outs where you're unable to access hosts on the internet. Anything else? You say it becomes slow at times?
[00:23] <akira_> ok its gone
[00:23] <de2> my mouse gets stuck in specific windows
[00:23] <Flannel> akira_: Alright, now sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install wine
[00:23] <Sool> Hi all!!! how can i play shuffle a folder consisting of 5 subfolders (with the actual avi-files in) in mpayer?
[00:23] <akira_> type it just like that?
[00:24] <de2> Okey i will try that newbie
[00:24] <trojanerPT> im glad pitivi is finally gone from ubuntu
[00:24] <trojanerPT> no one used it
[00:24] <akira_> or two seperate commands?
[00:24] <Flannel> akira_: you can, or you can do each command separately.  command1 && command2 will execute command2 after command1 (if command1 completes successfully)
[00:24] <akira_> im liking this =)- gatta log down a command line list
[00:25] <osmosis> clean install of 11.10, my screen resolution is wrong.  left and right sides of my screen are black.  Correct resolution is available in 'Displays...'  , but selecting it gives a huge long error.
[00:25] <trojanerPT> osmosis: -)
[00:25] <newbie|2> deebee: initially, before looking at pings it looked like: every half an hour (or sometimes 10 mins) the internet stopped working, as in the browser would say 'waiting for ' ages, but not load them. if I reconnect to the wireless network (it says its still connected) its all fine again. But I notice when it happenes again that I can ping the router during this time, and login to the router setiing
[00:25] <trojanerPT> osmosis: feel free to submit a patvh
[00:25] <trojanerPT> patch
[00:25] <deebee> newbie|2: and how long do these drop outs last for?
[00:26] <hicham> i need help is anybody free
[00:26] <deebee> newbie|2: do you have another computer on the same network you can run the same tests with?
[00:26] <newbie|2> settings and broswe freely. Now looking at the ping, when the browser isnt loading pages. the ping to gooogle.com keeps stopping for a long time, but then only showing a ~100ms wait.
[00:26] <gwb> Weird stuff with the 11.10 upgrade.  Can't update flash -- apt-get gets "too many redirections" messages.  How to fix?
[00:26] <trojanerPT> hedslsh
[00:27] <trojanerPT> flash is evil dont use it
[00:27] <akira_> so if i downloaded wine from winehq what would have done with those files thru the g
[00:27] <hicham> any one has idea about cairo dock?
[00:27] <newbie|2> it's only happened once so far where I've just waited for it to start working again, rather than reconnecting, and it was about 5 mins I think. my housemates have latops running windows. Imight be able to borrow one tomorrow
[00:28] <trojanerPT> newbie|2: get window  prevw
[00:28] <gwb> trojanerPT: I wouldn't use it if I didn't need it for SongSelect
[00:28] <Flannel> akira_: You can delete those files, this is getting wine from the Ubuntu repos.  If you did want to use the winehq wine for whatever reason, you could add the wineHQ repository and use it.
[00:28] <deebee> newbie|2: you can run the same tests on windows, but you'll need to run ping with with the -t switch for it to run continuously
[00:28] <paul_> can anyone tell me how to change the theme in blackbox linux
[00:28] <newbie|2> deebee: ok, but I'll have to do it in the morning
[00:29] <newbie|2> trojanerPT: what?
[00:30] <paul_> can anyone tell me how to change the theme in blackbox linux
[00:30] <gwb> Also, after upgrade to 11.10, one id on my system is unusable. Runs painfully slowly but just that id.  Created a new id and things are better,
[00:30] <gwb> however, no compiz settings in system settings, and missing icons in launcher.
[00:30] <paul_> anyone pls
[00:32] <Nazosan> Anyone have any idea how I could make my login screen in Xubuntu use my screen's native resolution WITHOUT having to leave my other screen unhooked?
[00:32] <Cube``> hey guys, for some reason i have system sounds even without the ubuntu-sounds package
[00:33] <blahblah> I upgraded to ocelot, and now linux won't boot
[00:33] <blahblah> even my windows is acting weird now
[00:33] <Rod33_> hello, does anybody know about World of Tanks and Ubuntu? I have a problem with it, WoT is working fine but the mouse isn't working at all.. any ideas what to do?
[00:34] <blahblah> I would just completely format my hdd and re-install both windows and linux, but I'd rather learn how to fix this
[00:34]  * Satanaa cries in frustration
[00:34] <Satanaa> ;/
[00:34] <Nazosan> Join the crowd
[00:34] <blahblah> nazosan: you had the same problem?
[00:35] <Nazosan> Just frustration
[00:35] <akira__> well whoever it was that helped me- thanks a bunch
[00:35] <Rod33_> Anybody playing WoT? How to get it work with Ubuntu 10.04? :(
[00:35] <Nazosan> I keep my Windows and Linux completely separated
[00:35] <blahblah> ?
[00:35] <Diamondcite> blahblah: What was your previous version? And how far does it get?
[00:35] <Satanaa> well for me i have to reboot my machine once the screen goes in "standby"
[00:35] <Diamondcite> Never heard of WoT
[00:35] <de2> Hey newbie i fixed it by chaning mouse
[00:35] <Nazosan> I keep their bootloaders on their own individual partitions and use syslinux to boot between them.  If I change Linux distros, it has no effect on Windows whatsoever.
[00:36] <blahblah> 11.09, it's weird, instead of just going straight into KDE it just goes into the terminal and shows everything booting, then it stops at ana(c)hronism or something like that when it starts booting, then when I press the power button it shows that it terminates bluetooth
[00:36] <Aetherix> Silly question but can I still have wobbly windows in 11.10?
[00:36] <blahblah> even when I try to boot into recovery mode now it's messing up, and previous linux versions, it does the same as a normal boot!
[00:36] <Rod33_> thanks, havent tried changing mouse yet..
[00:36] <de2> aetherix what is that program call ?
[00:36] <blahblah> and windows is acting weird now!
[00:36] <xangua> !compiz | Aetherix configure it with compiz setting manager
[00:37] <blahblah> could a worm or virus affect both operating systems?.
[00:37] <blahblah> because there was one, and I had to constantly remove it over and over and it finally quit showing up
[00:37] <xangua> !ccsm | was this Aetherix ;)
[00:37] <blahblah> it was in windows though, not ubuntu
[00:37] <Aetherix> Yep, I did that and enabled the setting but it's not working.
[00:37] <Diamondcite> blahblah: Not that I know of.. usually they are entirely seperate.. did you do anything to the partitions while upgrading?
[00:37] <blahblah> no, ubuntu did everything
[00:37] <blahblah> it asked if I wanted to upgrade, and I did
[00:38] <de2> If anyone here have problem with there mouse try to change mouse !
[00:38] <Diamondcite> blahblah: Package manager upgrade or over live CD/USB ?
[00:38] <blahblah> now in Windows, it's saying a bunch of programs have stopped working
[00:38] <blahblah> no, package manager
[00:38] <newbie|2> blahblah: if both OS's are slowing down, and you have each OS on a separate partition, then I'd guess ither the harddriver is corrupted somehow, or your RAM is damaged, see if you can run a memory test from the bios settings.
[00:38] <blahblah> something weird has happened, but idk what
[00:38] <blahblah> okay, and what can I expect to see in memtest?  never done it before
[00:38] <Diamondcite> blahblah: is windows being mounted inside linux? (it's not perfect yet)
[00:39] <blahblah> no, separate partitions, i did that all before I installed either one
[00:39] <Diamondcite> blahblah: You should never see any red line on the bottom half of the screen.
[00:39] <Cube``> hey guys, for some reason i have system sounds even without the ubuntu-sounds package
[00:40] <blahblah> okay, I'll run a memtest
[00:40] <blahblah> I'll be back, if windows is still working when I get back..........
[00:40] <Diamondcite> blahblah: I don't know if it's an option.. but try to boot via a live CD/USB of 11.10 and see if it goes through.. If it boots fine, it eliminates incompatibility at least.
[00:40] <gwb> 11.10: In software sources, the "Remove" key is greyed out.  How to activate it?
[00:41] <newbie|2> Cube``: If you dont want system sounds, run sound prefernces, and mute the box in the system sounds tab
[00:41] <edbian> gwb: the remove key for what program?
[00:42] <gwb> edbian the "Software Sources" editor
[00:42] <edbian> gwb: Give me instructions on how to look at it (is there a unlock button at the top?)
[00:42] <Rod33_> Changing mouse doesn't help.. The mouse is still not working on WoT :(
[00:43] <gwb> edbian: from the Dash, search for Software Sources and launch it
[00:44] <gwb> edbian: then, in the "Other Sources" tab, there's a list of other sources.  Some are old and I want to remove them, but the key is greyed out
[00:44] <edbian> gwb: k hang on (look for an unlock button)
[00:44] <famgod> i just installed the kde-full package, and it installed KDM, how do I get back to using GDM (is that ubuntu uses?)
[00:44] <Satanaa> ubuntu changed
[00:45] <gwb> edbian: Oh, no unlock button, just a prompt if you change a check box
[00:45] <hanasaki> in gnome3 for some reason dash is not starting.. nor is gnome-panel .  how do you get them to start on login?
[00:45] <leopard20> hi, can i work my skystar 2 on ubuntu 11
[00:45] <de2> Hey i cant install my drivers for my graphic card anyone know what the problem is ? Could not open the file /home/de2/Downloads/ati-…er-11-9-x86.x86_64(1).run using the Western (ISO-8859-15) character encoding.
[00:46] <de2> i downloaded Ubuntu 64 bit drivers and its still dont even works to open
[00:46] <edbian> gwb: My remove button is grey until I clock on some source in the list
[00:46] <Satanaa> de2 chmod +x ?
[00:46] <mindsystem> i just tried using dhclient to tether my android phone, which worked under 11.04, and it gives me a "Rather than invoking init scripts..." etc message. is there some sort of change that happened between 11.04 and 11.10?
[00:46] <de2> ok ty satanaa can try that :)
[00:46] <Satanaa> mindsystem huge changes
[00:46] <gwb> edbian: I t hink I see it.  You have to highlight the entries to delete,  Then the remove key activates
[00:47] <edbian> gwb: yes
[00:47] <Satanaa> hehe i really need to fix my issue, im stuck with cygwin on windows hehe
[00:47] <leopard20> hi, can i work my skystar 2 on ubuntu 11?
[00:47] <mindsystem> Satanna: is dhclient considered a "service" now, then? though when i try something like "service dhclient restart" it says it doesn't recognize the service..
[00:48] <mindsystem> T_T
[00:48] <hanasaki> what program is run to manually run 'dash"
[00:48] <hanasaki> ?
[00:48] <Satanaa> mindsystem i dont know
[00:48] <Rod33_> Forums claim that World of tanks is yet not fully operational on ubuntu, so no one can play it with mouse?
[00:48] <Satanaa> mindsystem is it cuz you cant find it?
[00:48] <Satanaa> ubuntu has moved some startup programs to a folder now
[00:49] <gwb> edbian: here's another odity.  Trying to install flash, get a mess on the terminal. http://paste.ubuntu.com/709107/
[00:49] <jtomasrl> whats the difference in llogin in into 'ubuntu¡ or 'ubuntu (2D)'?
[00:49] <mindsystem> "service dhclient restart" returns "dhclient: unrecognized service"...
[00:49] <smango> There's this weird bug that causes the window title bar or whatever you call it to not be updated, e.g. the X, min, max buttons don't change when a window's focus changes, doesn't always include the * in gedit if I change the open file, etc. Does anyone have any clue how to fix this?
[00:49] <Satanaa> ubuntu 2D has no compiz
[00:49] <edbian> gwb: something wrong on the server side, apparently the document has moved
[00:49] <edbian> I would just wait a couple days
[00:50] <leopard20> hi, can i work my skystar 2 on ubuntu 11?
[00:50] <gwb> edbian: OK, How about this one: compiz-setting-manager installed, but no compiz settings in system settings
[00:51] <gwb> edbian: (sorry to spam you, but it's nice to find someone with real answers)
[00:51] <Satanaa> atleast you dont have to reboot every 30min like me hehe
[00:51] <peeps[lappy]> anyone else notice pidgin using a lot of cpu after upgrade to 11.10?
[00:52] <Ph0t0nix> gwb, you can run compizconfig-settings-manager from the dash (or ccsm from a terminal)
[00:52] <xangua> gwb: tried to run¿: ccsm
[00:52] <edbian> gwb: haha, sure
[00:52] <Satanaa> peeps[lappy] yup
[00:52] <Satanaa> sits at 33-40%
[00:52] <mindsystem> Satanaa: true. though i didn't even get a desktop at first. even after i fixed the "checking battery state" stalling issue. :/
[00:52] <Rod33_> Pls some1 give me a link to WoT mouse not working issue :P cant find any
[00:52] <peeps[lappy]> Satanaa, mine was around 120%(multi core system) before i killed it
[00:53] <gwb> xangua: that works!
[00:53] <Satanaa> hehe my issue with pidgin is that people pm me, but i get no window
[00:53] <gwb> xangua: I thought it hooked into system settings?
[00:53] <xangua> gwb: no idea, i don't use unity yet
[00:53] <BouerBouer> hey guys, trying to install a new theme but it says I don't have permissions necessary to copy across the theme folder even though I'm an administrator, wat do?
[00:54] <mtrg> I upgraded xubuntu to 10.10 and some of my software (e.g. evince) is no longer themes with my theme (but other apps are OK)
[00:54] <mtrg> anyone knows how to fix this weird issue
[00:54] <Satanaa> 11.10 you mean mtrg ?
[00:54] <mtrg> yeah, 11.10 sorry
[00:55] <mtrg> Orniric thing
[00:55] <Satanaa> well 11.10 is ontop of gnome3/gtk3
[00:55] <Satanaa> gtk2 themes might not work
[00:55] <mtrg> evne for xubuntu?
[00:55] <Satanaa> oh i dont know
[00:55] <Satanaa> didnt notice that lol
[00:56] <mtrg> another Q: my upgrade stopped some time in the middle while upgrading flash player
[00:56] <ncrypter> Hey guys, is it normal for ubuntu to make 3 swap partions when you use the default install?
[00:56] <mtrg> it said that it couldn't access the internet to download flash player stuff
[00:56] <mtrg> so i rebooted the machine when the new kernel was used, it was OK and upgraded the flash player
[00:56] <mtrg> but is apt-get  upgrade smart enough to continue the full job? or will it just continue the last failed one?
[00:57] <leopard20> hi, can i work my skystar 2 on ubuntu 11?
[00:58] <richthegeek> I'm having trouble changing compiz setting with CCSM - is that now deprecated, or am I encountering a bug?
[00:59] <Ph0t0nix> richthegeek: I've used CSSM without problems today, so I think it's still OK
[00:59] <MonkeyDust> FYI: Skystar 2 is a tv card
[00:59] <richthegeek> Ph0t0nix: odd - any changes I make don't take affect, and if I use the "reset to defaults" button unity dies entirely
[01:00] <richthegeek> unity dies permantently, even
[01:00] <robin0800> richthegeek, some unity settings didn't work for me
[01:00] <HELLISYOU> quick question to anyone who might know:
[01:00] <ncrypter> ok let me re-phrase, is it normal on 11.04 for ubuntu to create 3 swap partitions, i loaded up gparted so i could shrink my ntfs down a bit more and noticed 3 swaps on the ubuntu setup thought that was odd since i cant logically see needing more then one
[01:00] <HELLISYOU> Just did distro upgrade to 11.10 and am stuck on login screen. when I attempt to log in on my account it reverts quickly to a few lines of code to fast to read then straight back to the login screen. how do I get beyond this point? or at least what is the hotkey to swith out of the gui when on the login screen?
[01:00] <richthegeek> robin0800: yeah I was trying to change the bindings for the Scale plugin, and the "toggle maximise" trigger in General Settings
[01:01] <gwb> in 11.10, the launcher has missing icons for standard stuff (terminal, workspace switcher, trash).  How can I get them back?
[01:01] <richthegeek> HELLISYOU: try creating a new user (drop to TTY and use "adduser myusername; password myusername"
[01:02] <HELLISYOU> what is the hot key to drop to tty?
[01:02] <Ph0t0nix> richthegeek: I didn't touch those settings. Just enabled the cube
[01:02] <Ph0t0nix> HELLISYOU: ctrl-alt-F1
[01:02] <HELLISYOU> thanks, Ill try it right now, ill be back with results
[01:02] <richthegeek>  Ph0t0nix: odd, the changes work now despite me deleting all compiz stuff from my home directory (.compiz, .config/compiz-1)
[01:02] <robin0800> !reset unity
[01:04] <richthegeek> enabling/disabling plugins in CCSM has a tendency to make Unity kill itself
[01:05] <HELLISYOU> sorry im a bit lost here still . I type the command as:
[01:05] <HELLISYOU> sudo adduser [myusername]
[01:05] <HELLISYOU> ?
[01:06] <richthegeek> HELLISYOU: say you want your temp user to be called "temper"
[01:06] <richthegeek> you type "sudo adduser temper"
[01:06] <richthegeek> that will create the user and their directory
[01:06] <richthegeek> then user "password temper" to set the password for that user (it'll prompt for input)
[01:06] <HELLISYOU> k
[01:06] <reisio> useradd is the proper name
[01:07] <Flannel> reisio: adduser is a better utility for most purposes
[01:07] <reisio> for adding a user? :p
[01:07] <Flannel> reisio: yes
[01:08] <reisio> rofl: "To add a user. NOTE: do not use the useradd command." — https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto
[01:08] <HELLISYOU> it gve me a no command found
[01:08] <reisio> that's classic
[01:08] <HELLISYOU> user "password temper"
[01:08] <HELLISYOU> lol
[01:08] <HELLISYOU> is thatwhat I should have typed?
[01:08] <Flannel> reisio: right, adduser instead of useradd.  Even the manpage for useradd says that.
[01:09] <hanasaki> I logged into 11.10 in gnome3 / gnome-panel and dash did not start.  how do I get them to start on login?
[01:09] <reisio> Flannel: the one Ubuntu modified :p
[01:09] <sophiesnoogins> Argh
[01:09] <b00m> Hey guys, is there any command to downgrade kernels on ubuntu 11.10 or is it done through another way?
[01:09] <reisio> hanasaki: them what?
[01:09] <richthegeek> HELLISYOU: sorry, "passwd temper"
[01:09] <reisio> b00m: what for
[01:09] <Lasers> HELLISYOU: "adduser dave"    "passwd dave"
[01:09] <hanasaki> reisio:  gnome-panel and dash
[01:09] <kandinski> after upgrade to oneiric, my fonts are broken in the terminal app. antialiasing is dirty and character spacing is all wonky. any solution?
[01:10] <b00m> to fix the back light issue on my laptop
[01:10] <hanasaki> reisio:  gnome-panel did not start on login
[01:10] <richthegeek> anyone know about Google Chrome install issues?
[01:10] <HELLISYOU> so is the fullcommand
[01:10] <HELLISYOU> user "passwd temper"
[01:10] <reisio> hanasaki: start it manually
[01:10] <HELLISYOU> ?
[01:10] <troii> hello
[01:10] <reisio> richthegeek: not until you tell us about them
[01:10] <reisio> troii: hi
[01:10] <blahblah> I recently upgraded to 11.10 ubuntu, and now my system won't boot
[01:11] <hanasaki> reisio:  I did. :)   but the idea is to have it autostart on login in the future..
[01:11] <troii> is there a good tutorial on how to get on with ubuntu?
[01:11] <blahblah> it boots, but it never finishes
[01:11] <reisio> hanasaki: the session manager should take care of that when you log out
[01:11] <richthegeek> reisio: ..... it doesn't install, the 64-bit deb from the Google Chrome website
[01:11] <xangua> troii: take tour on ubuntu.com
[01:11] <hanasaki> reisio:  I tried.. it did not take care of that when I logout...
[01:11] <troii> which section ,xangua?
[01:11] <reisio> richthegeek: why don't you use chromium from the repos?
[01:11] <richthegeek> reisio: dependency issues on various libs
[01:11] <xangua> troii: where it says ' take the tour'
[01:11] <hanasaki> reisio:  and : what program runs "dash" to start it myself?
[01:12] <troii> aha
[01:12] <troii> thanks
[01:12] <reisio> hanasaki: the shell?
[01:12] <HELLISYOU> its now telling me my "temper user" doesnt exist, but when I try t readd the user "temper", it tells me such a "group" already exists
[01:12] <hanasaki> reisio:  no.  the dock on the left side
[01:12] <reisio> ah that :)
[01:12] <hanasaki> ya that...
[01:13] <richthegeek> reisio: nvm, fixed it - it wouldn't install with the software center and dpkg doesn't resolve deps ofc....
[01:13] <reisio> always fun naming things names that are already taken
[01:13] <reisio> richthegeek: how'd you fix it?
[01:13] <frigo> so, i installed 11.10, gui was super slow, icons did not appear, so i updated nvidia-current but now, i get nothing but the background image
[01:13] <sophiesnoogins> I'm having trouble getting k3b to rip mp3s
[01:13] <hanasaki> "dash' lol yes reisio
[01:13] <richthegeek> reisio: sudo apt-get install libnspr4-0d libcurl3 libnss3-1d
[01:13] <cslcm> Anyone know of a problem with the latest release with the installer crashing every time after installing Ubiquity?
[01:14] <troii> is ubuntu similar to backtrack 5 ?
[01:14] <gwb> 11.10 Launcher is set to autohide in ccsm, with 15 ms delay (default) but It does not appear when I move mouse to the left edge.  have to hit alf-f2.  how to fix this?
[01:14] <reisio> troii: way deep down, way
[01:14] <gwb> s/alf/alt/
[01:14] <blahblah> troii: backtrack is a version of backtrack
[01:14] <blahblah> whoops
[01:14] <blahblah> I mean backtrack is a verrsion of ubuntu
[01:14] <richthegeek> just out of interest, why does the unity sidebar move when I drag an icon... I mean, I *know* how to reorder but it just seems wrong, this behaviour
[01:14] <troii> aha
[01:14] <Jordan_U> blahblah: No, it is not. It is a derivative of Ubuntu. There is a huge difference.
[01:14] <soulg77> Hello, anyone available to getting the driver(s) installed for a broadcom mini pci wireless?
[01:14] <hanasaki> gwb:  what package installs ccsm?
[01:14] <troii> so if i learn how to operate well with ubuntu then i wont have problems with backtrac ?
[01:15] <blahblah> okay, whatever, you know what I meant
[01:15] <troii> backtrack*
[01:15] <richthegeek> hanasaki: compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:15] <cslcm> the installer crashes while "configuring target system"
[01:15] <OerHeks> backtrack has nothing to do with ubuntu. not supported here also.
[01:15] <hanasaki> thanks
[01:15] <troii> i know , im asking whether they have similar commands
[01:15] <reisio> troii: the package management system is the same, that's useful for both
[01:15] <reisio> troii: on the commandline level, I mean
[01:15] <gwb> hanasaki: compiz-settings-manager
[01:15] <troii> nice
[01:16] <white_magic> how can i log out via the terminal in ubuntu 11.10? I tried 'gnome-session-save', but it says it cannot find it
[01:16] <cpgo> I'm tring to install kernel headers in order to build vmware tools, I've done sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) and rebooted. It still says that it cannot find kernel headers. Where are they isntalled to so I can specify the path manually
[01:16] <reisio> troii: as is the package management system for all Debian derived distros
[01:16] <reisio> cpgo: some reason you're not using kvm or virtualbox instead of vmware?
[01:16] <troii> i see
[01:16] <cpgo> had vmware already installed and setup
[01:16] <blahblah> so can someone help me figure out why after I upgraded to 11.10 from 11.09 via the package manager, why it won't completely boot?
[01:17] <reisio> troii: you should also keep in mind that all the same software is available for all Debian derived distros
[01:17] <Guest38335> 11.09?
[01:17] <HELLISYOU> im having the same problem as blahblah i thinks
[01:17] <reisio> troii: what you get by installing Ubuntu or Backtrack is the preinstalled configuration
[01:17] <MonkeyDust> blahblah: try booting in Recovery Mode and choose Repair
[01:17] <reisio> troii: you can have each system work the same, with the same software, given enough effort
[01:17] <blahblah> I did, it never finishes there either
[01:17] <blahblah> same problem
[01:17] <mikeru> I have a 2011 27" iMac, and I just installed the AMD Catalyst drivers. why do I get a AMD Unsupported Hardware watermark????
[01:17] <HELLISYOU> it boots to the login screen but whenever you login it just flashs 2 or three lines of code then rreverts back to login
[01:18] <SetiAmon> anyone here run oss
[01:18] <ultrixx> can i go directly from 10.10 to 11.10 or do i have to install 11.04 first?
[01:18] <kwtm2> What is possible cause for sound failing for apps (e.g. smplayer, amarok, etc.) but the "boot-up" sound and "shutdown" sounds work?  This problem just occurred suddenly one day; no major software installation.  Using 10.04
[01:18] <ultrixx> i mean upgrade to
[01:18] <MonkeyDust> SetiAmon: we all do
[01:18] <troii> very nice, i will try first ubuntu as i will work on it, but backtrack is more for 'fun' as it got mainly tools..
[01:18] <Baltazar> hello
[01:18] <Flynsarmy> Hey guys, no compiz animations are working on gnome classic on 11.10. i've got nvidia-proprietry installed and activated so i've def got 3d going...any ideas? have CCSM installed and have a few keyboard shortcuts turned on (such as enhanced zoom desktop) but when i use it nothing happens. I can switch between desktops fine using the shortcuts but no animations
[01:18] <reisio> mikeru: probably because it isn't on their list of supported hardware?
[01:18] <Curator> hi, i'm running the grub-customizer program, but for some reason my changes don't seem to be committed to grub. when i restart, nothing changes.
[01:18] <mikeru> reisio, where's that list :) ?
[01:18] <blahblah> HELLISYOU: mine once went into the command line and I logged in (which I thought was odd because it's always started KDE) and after I logged in, I did startx and it consequently did nothing
[01:19] <Curator> i am just pressing "save". am i doing something wrong? changing the default boot position in /etc/default/grub and doing update-grub gives me the same problem
[01:19] <reisio> Flynsarmy: glxinfo | grep direct
[01:19] <HELLISYOU> blahblah: somebody here told me to create a new user and try that but i got stuck at makinga NEW PASSWORD SOMEWHERE IN THE TTY
[01:19] <Curator> it doesn't seem like it's being modified at all
[01:19] <SetiAmon> MonkeyDust: I usually switch to oss because my x-fi sounds horrid on pulse. this time on 11.10 when i do it I get no sound (in browsers/flash/firefox) but i get it in rhtyham
[01:19] <reisio> mikeru: on amd's website
[01:19] <mikeru> all I get from googling is replies on forums, dated as back as 2006
[01:19] <reisio> mikeru: doesn't matter, you probably just want to look up how to tell the watermark to go away
[01:19] <blahblah> I guess I should have never upgraded..
[01:19] <HELLISYOU> fuck, rubber keyboard with inconveniently placed capslock key
[01:19] <Flynsarmy> reisio direct rendering: yes.
[01:19] <Baltazar> well... am gld to see so many users at this chanel... any adventurer using ubuntu on arm???
[01:19] <almoxarife> Curator: doing 'sudo update-grub' ?
[01:19] <MonkeyDust> SetiAmon: oss is open source software, or am i missing something
[01:19] <gaberlunzie> is there a room specifically for oneiric issues? or do i post here?
[01:19] <reisio> mikeru: http://www.google.com/search?q=%22ati%22%20%22unsupported%20hardware%22 first result seems pretty useful
[01:20] <reisio> HELLISYOU: indeed
[01:20] <Stupendoussteve> MonkeyDust: OSS is a sound system like alsa
[01:20] <trollboy> playing with bind9...  service bind9 restart just says failed.. where am I supposed to see the log of where it actually died?
[01:20] <reisio> Flynsarmy: :D
[01:20] <blahblah> HELLIYOU: what do you recommend doing?  I would really rather not format everything.........
[01:20] <Flynsarmy> reisio is this good or bad?
[01:20] <reisio> gaberlunzie: here now
[01:20] <MonkeyDust> ok
[01:20] <SetiAmon> MonkeyDust: OSS as in open sound system.4 particularly
[01:20] <reisio> Flynsarmy: good
[01:20] <Flynsarmy> reisio so no idea on my problem then? :)
[01:20] <mikeru> reisio, well, not really... I want to know if there's a more up to date driver that wasn't shipped with oneiric. performance with the oss driver is many times better, and the oss driver wasn't fast at all
[01:20] <reisio> like ALSA, but managed by a sellout commercial organization :p
[01:20] <gaberlunzie> reisi: thanks
[01:20] <deebee> trollboy: first bet would be to check your  syslog
[01:20] <Stupendoussteve> Flynsarmy: Didn't classic have some option to enable desktop effects? Got 'em turned on?
[01:21] <HELLISYOU> I think i just successfully logged in but am now stuck in the tty
[01:21] <reisio> Flynsarmy: dunno, what's ccsm, compiz thing?
[01:21] <HELLISYOU> how do I switchback to gui
[01:21] <powersurge> hey, I got a new laptop and I'm having issues getting it to boot. It booted twice without any real issues, but it had issues both before and after that and I'm not sure what the difference is
[01:21] <powersurge> anyone able to help me work this out? my google fu isn't turning up much
[01:21] <mdelappy> so i'm trying to add a windows 7 menuentry to my 40_custom grub conf and i have no idea what it should look like
[01:21] <HELLISYOU> hotkey for switch from tty to gui anybody?
[01:21] <gaberlunzie> ok, i'm having problems launching X-server after upgrading from maverick to oneiric ... hangs at 'checking battery state"
[01:21] <jeremy-77> is there a way to get the old gnome classic on ubuntu 11.10 ?
[01:21] <Curator> yes almoxarife. it doesn't seem to be doing what i want.
[01:21] <Flynsarmy> Stupendoussteve: I haven't seen one. Any ideas where it'd be if it existed? reisio ccsm = compizconfig-settings-manager
[01:21] <reisio> mdelappy: the software should really be able to detect a Windows 7 install on its own
[01:21] <reisio> Flynsarmy: ah
[01:21] <jalmeida> ls
[01:21] <Baltazar> am asking  because I have a "Genbook" from the deaad Augen... and its android is crap!
[01:21] <reisio> Flynsarmy: and compiz is actually running? (pgrep -l compiz)
[01:21] <mikeru> reisio, that first result doesn't help, /etc/ati/control is not missing. and do look at the date, 25 Jul 2007
[01:22] <jalmeida> hi
[01:22] <mdelappy> reisio: it didn't, i'm trying to fix it
[01:22] <xangua> !nounity | jeremy-77
[01:22] <reisio> mikeru: date shmate
[01:22] <almoxarife> Curator: what did you want it to do?
[01:22] <Curator> almoxarife, i wanted to change the default boot selection
[01:22] <Stupendoussteve> Flynsarmy: It used to be in the appearance preferences in the visual effects tab
[01:22] <Flynsarmy> reisio it's not. isn't it supposed to be running by default?
[01:22] <white_magic> how can i log out via the terminal in ubuntu 11.10? I tried 'gnome-session-save', but it says it cannot find it
[01:22] <jalmeida> exist a command to list driver harsware wireless name
[01:22] <SetiAmon> Gnome3 sucks,Is there a way to go back to Gnome 2?
[01:22] <mdelappy> can anybody paste me a custom grub2 menuentry for a windows partition? mine shows up in the boot menu but does not work
[01:23] <SetiAmon> failsafe isn't gnome 2
[01:23] <almoxarife> Curator:  and you changed what to achive it?
[01:23] <SetiAmon> Gnome3 sucks,Is there a way to go back to Gnome 2?
[01:23] <xangua> !gnome2 | SetiAmon
[01:23] <Baltazar> this netbook is awfull
[01:23] <reisio> mdelappy: http://is.gd/f5Ww5S
[01:23] <BouerBouer> hey guys, I want to make the task launcher in Unity disappear from the screen when only the wallpaper is visible, how do I do this?
[01:23] <SetiAmon> !nounity
[01:23] <BouerBouer> also how do I change icons for the entirety of the OS?
[01:23] <reisio> mdelappy: what partition/drive is Windows on?
[01:23] <ultrixx> wtf? gnome foundation ceased support for gnome 2?????
[01:24] <Brendon423> I'm getting an "Internal Error" when attempting to install pretty much any non-native browser like Chrome or Opera, any ideas?
[01:24] <SetiAmon> !notunity
[01:24] <mdelappy> reisio: sda2
[01:24] <BouerBouer> no I still want to keep unity
[01:24] <BouerBouer> I just want the launcher to minimize when on a blank desktop
[01:24] <Baltazar> that is bad!!
[01:24] <Jordan_U> mdelappy: What happens when you select the Windows entry?
[01:24] <reisio> ultrixx: really?  That is abrupt
[01:24] <Baltazar> no support for the old....
[01:24] <reisio> ultrixx: but it's not as if you can't make GNOME 3 work just like 2 did
[01:24] <xangua> !ccsm | BouerBouer: there it was a setting to autohide, i believe you need compiz settinc manager
[01:25] <Baltazar> bound to happen though
[01:25] <mdelappy> Jordan_U: screen flashes black a moment, cursor returns to default entry
[01:25] <SetiAmon> !notunity
[01:25] <Curator> almoxarife nevermind, it seems to depend on which OS i use to edit the config...
[01:25] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | mdelappy
[01:25] <reisio> mdelappy: what's on sda1, Ubuntu?
[01:25] <Curator> or rather which partition
[01:25] <mdelappy> sda1 is ubuntu and it works
[01:26] <ultrixx> reisio: that's what ubottu just said
[01:26] <Jordan_U> mdelappy: My guess is that you accidentily installed grub's boot sector to your Windows partition. grub's boot sector should never be installed to a partition.
[01:26] <gaberlunzie> can anyone help with hung xserver problem? it seems to be deeper than a lightdm issue .... right now im chatting from livecd
[01:26] <mdelappy> grub is installed mba
[01:26] <reisio> ultrixx: good for him
[01:26] <ultrixx> !gnome2 | reisio
[01:26] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | mdelappy
[01:26] <crash1hd> How do I change ubuntu so that it doesnt mount drives that I have attached as root?
[01:26] <reisio> o-kay then...
[01:26] <crash1hd> but as the user I am using
[01:26] <craigbass1976> !nounity
[01:26] <Baltazar> why not I have always installed to mbr with no problems
[01:27] <Baltazar> you just need to know waht drive boots first
[01:27] <Baltazar> and set accordingly
[01:27] <Jordan_U> Baltazar: Installing to the mbr is exactly what you should do. I said don't ever want to install grub's boot sector to a partition.
[01:27] <powersurge> sooo booting int recovery mode it says "Booting node 0, Processors #1 <new line> #2 <new line> #3" and then it hangs
[01:27] <powersurge> anyone know what's up?
[01:27] <BouerBouer> aight will check compiz again, thanks
[01:27] <reisio> mdelappy: try http://dpaste.com/635052/plain/
[01:27] <cslcm> Anyone know of a problem with the latest release with the installer crashing every time after installing Ubiquity? The installer crashes while "configuring target system".
[01:27] <cslcm> release 11.10
[01:28] <Jordan_U> reisio: mdelappy: I can almost guarantee that entry will not work as the problem is likely that Windows' boot sector has been overwritten.
[01:28] <mdelappy> ok, the example i followed used syntax (hd0/2)
[01:28] <reisio> mikeru: third result? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1448076
[01:29] <mdelappy> windows boot was on sda1 which was repartitioned, so yes ntldr was wiped out
[01:29] <reisio> Jordan_U: hrmm?
[01:29] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | mdelappy
[01:29] <reisio> mdelappy: ah
[01:29] <gaberlunzie> i cant start x after upgrading from maverick to oneiric ... any help?
[01:29] <reisio> gaberlunzie: grep EE /var/log/Xorg*
[01:29] <Jordan_U> mdelappy: If ntldr is missing how do you expect to boot Windows?
[01:29] <mdelappy> if i knew that i wouldn't be here asking questions :)
[01:29] <Pauluntu> I'm having problems esspecially with audio its like games will work then if i re run them there will be no audio but if i reboot then audio will return and my pc will sometimes like freeze up for 5 min then start to work like nothing is wrong :-( i'm using 11.10 any ideas
[01:30] <elz89> gaberlunzie: elevate to tty7?
[01:30] <SetiAmon> I'm thinking of dropping back to Gnatty
[01:30] <Baltazar> that is a problem with windows not ubuntu or the bootloader
[01:30] <xangua> gaberlunzie: how did do you exactly upgrade from maverick 10.10 to oneiric 11.10 ¿¿
[01:30] <reisio> mdelappy: in which case you'd reinstall Windows' thing with your Windows install disc, then go through http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1448076
[01:30] <SetiAmon> pauluntu:ah sound probs here also.no sound in browsers on 11.10
[01:30] <bluelotus> please help..... installed 11:10 and now my desktop looks like this... more info on  the album page here...http://imgur.com/a/kegFs
[01:30] <gaberlunzie> xangua: from a downloaded cd
[01:30] <reisio> mdelappy: then go through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[01:30] <wulai> why should we update to 11.10?
[01:30] <reisio> clipboard fail, wee
[01:30] <chaitanyakaul> can someone help me
[01:30] <rypervenche> wulai: You shouldn't :P
[01:30] <chaitanyakaul> i am trying to change speed/duplex settings
[01:30] <gaberlunzie> elz89: how do i do elevate to tty7?
[01:31] <chaitanyakaul> i am trying to change speed/duplex settings
[01:31] <chaitanyakaul> can someone help me
[01:31] <BouerBouer> xangua: I don't see any autohide option under unity for compiz, mind pointing me in the right direction?
[01:31] <FloodBot1> chaitanyakaul: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:31] <elz89> wulai: New Kernel :-P
[01:31] <Baltazar> anyone on ARM netbook??
[01:31] <reisio> wulai: eventually what you're using now will become unsupported
[01:31] <mdelappy> will try it, thanks
[01:31] <Stupendoussteve> bluelotus: Looks like unity...?
[01:31] <elz89> gaberlunzie: Ctrl + Alt +F7
[01:31] <chaitanyakaul> anyone?
[01:31] <reisio> chaitanyakaul: hi
[01:31] <bluelotus> yup...what should i do?
[01:31] <wulai> I worked well under xubuntu 11.04
[01:31] <gaberlunzie> reisio: i'm chatting from livecd ... how do i access the xorg log from here?
[01:31] <bluelotus> light dm works fine on the login page...
[01:32] <mikeru> reisio, yes, that's how you disable the watermark. but in that case I would just go back to the OSS driver, because my problem is not the watermark but the terrible performance it's giving me. what I'm asking is where's a new fglrx driver or where can I ask why an older-than-may-2011-yet-not-so-old GPU is not supported by Catalyst if it has a 1 month release cycle
[01:32] <exiff> sure is busy in here
[01:32] <wulai> help
[01:32] <reisio> gaberlunzie: look in the mounted parts in Nautilus
[01:32] <chaitanyakaul> reisio: i want to change speed/duplex settings
[01:32] <reisio> gaberlunzie: or find /media/ -iname 'Xorg*log'
[01:32] <reisio> chaitanyakaul: for what?
[01:32] <mikeru> and all I find about the Catalysts drivers in amd.com is for windows
[01:32] <Pauluntu> so i take it ubuntu is just extreamly buggy with audio or something, i wish I could figure out what freezes my system for like 5 min it happens sometimes if i right click on the desktop the last time it happend when i was testing the audio
[01:32] <reisio> wulai: with what?
[01:33] <gaberlunzie> elz89: ok, i can try that but i got some fatal xserver errors when i ran startx
[01:33] <Baltazar> this genbook am using is dead slow...
[01:33] <wulai> gcc for C++ complier
[01:33] <chaitanyakaul> reisio: for my network card, i downloaded ethtool made the change temp but after reboot i have to redo everything
[01:33] <reisio> mikeru: my guess'd be that Apple users, having paid two-to-four times as much for their computers, less frequently switch to Linux
[01:33] <exiff> I takes a minute+ to change the volume while I have rhythmbox open.. and the whole time its frozen
[01:33] <Stupendoussteve> mikeru: You mean, something like http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[01:34] <reisio> chaitanyakaul: ah, then you need to find a config file
[01:34] <alricu> hello, i ve got a question
[01:34] <reisio> chaitanyakaul: find /etc/ -iname '*netw*'
[01:34] <reisio> alricu: prove it
[01:34] <Stupendoussteve> mikeru: It's possible your card is too new for the version packaged in Ubuntu
[01:34] <jeremy-77> I got the gnome classic up on ubuntu 11.04 but I cant add to panel or move things around on the panels. is there something ells I got to install?
[01:34] <Baltazar> me too but they are bussy... :P
[01:34] <alricu> i m installing the bran new ubuntu
[01:34] <alricu> brand new ubuntu 11.10
[01:34] <Pauluntu> exiff: something is really wrong with ubuntus audio randomly stop working and freezing system there are alot of people here including me with audio problems
[01:34] <chaitanyakaul> sir, i am new to linux do i have to run that command
[01:34] <reisio> bluelotus: what's the problem?
[01:34] <reisio> alricu: that isn't a question :)
[01:34] <jeremy-77> i ment 11.10
[01:35] <bluelotus> i have no functional desktop...the ui is all screwed
[01:35] <reisio> jeremy-77: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html might help
[01:35] <reisio> bluelotus: screwed how?
[01:35] <Pauluntu> I dont think 11.10 was quite ready to be thrown out to the public its really buggy
[01:35] <alricu> but when i try to install it shows me a black screen
[01:35] <bluelotus> there pictures here http://imgur.com/a/kegFs
[01:35] <Baltazar> I cant even scrool up with this thing
[01:35] <gaberlunzie> reisio: ok, i see them but media shows up empty and var is mostly empty except for "cache"
[01:35] <chaitanyakaul> well that command showed a list of files
[01:35] <gwb> Unity on 11.10: How do I add applets to the top panel, especially the shutdown applet?
[01:35] <reisio> bluelotus: all I see are expected parts of the UI
[01:36] <bluelotus> where is unity???
[01:36] <bluelotus> it does not show up...
[01:36] <xangua> gwb: if you mean session indicator, it's already there
[01:36] <Baltazar> how do I asept you request
[01:36] <exiff> it's not an LTS, so the expect a few growing pains
[01:36] <StepNjump> guys, I have two hard drives sda and sdb.. the ubuntu is running on sda4. I installed ubuntu 11.10 on sdb1. Why is it after rebooting it's not showing up in grub? Am I supposed to add it in grub manually?
[01:36] <reisio> Baltazar: wasn't a request, just got your info from your client
[01:36] <chaitanyakaul> reiso: any help?
[01:36] <xangua> bluelotus: not very clear images, looks like gnome shell
[01:36] <reisio> StepNjump: you have two ubuntu installs?
[01:36] <Baltazar> oh....
[01:37] <reisio> chaitanyakaul: did you run the command?
[01:37] <StepNjump> Yes Reisio
[01:37] <reisio> StepNjump: but why? :p
[01:37] <chaitanyakaul> reiso: yes i did
[01:37] <chaitanyakaul> reiso: showed a list of files
[01:37] <StepNjump> Ah! I'm trying to salvage some data
[01:37] <alricu> somebody knows what is it happening?
[01:37] <BouerBouer> xangua: again, can't see this autohide option you mentioned for unity under compiz, any other ideas where you could spot it?
[01:37] <StepNjump> and cannot boot with my 3rd linux in sda5
[01:37] <BouerBouer> I only checked the Unity plugin
[01:37] <gwb> xangua: It's not there. The top-right hand corner has my user name. that's it
[01:37] <Baltazar> well now taht you have my attention.... or I got yours it is a simple question I got
[01:37] <reisio> chaitanyakaul: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html#ethernet-interface-settings
[01:37] <xangua> BouerBouer: well no idea, not a unity user; last time i tested it was there but that was on natty
[01:37] <StepNjump> and the one in sda4, partition is too small to recover data in there soo..... reisio
[01:38] <Desperate> Hello, i have a new 11.04 install and after changing compiz settings, unity has disappeared and i cant get it back. ive tried everything that i can find on google and nothing helps. Please help!
[01:38] <crash1hd> When you click on a drive to mount it in ubuntu how can I make it so that its not owned by root?
[01:38] <Baltazar> has anyone gotten ubuntu or any other linux on a genbook
[01:38] <BouerBouer> xangua: ah shit okay well thanks for the help anyway
[01:38] <gwb> Unity on 11.10: How do I add applets to the top panel,  in general?
[01:38] <xangua> gwb: well it should be, if not try to restore unity setting: unity --reset
[01:38] <reisio> crash1hd: chown -R user:user path/to/mounted/point/
[01:38] <mikeru> reisio, thanks. I hope 11.9 does support this GPU
[01:38] <StepNjump> reisio, is it ok to change the grub to point to sdb1?
[01:39] <gwb> xangua: last time I did that I had to do reboot with the reset key.  I'm a little gun shy
[01:39] <gaberlunzie> reisio: before i ran livecd i jotted down some notes about the error: some of it was "screens found but non have usable configuration" and "xinit unable to connect to xserver: connection refused" and "failed to load nvidia kernel/nv module" ... i dunno if that's helpful
[01:39] <xangua> Desperate: tried to reset unity with¿: unity --reset
[01:39] <crash1hd> reisio, that works after is mounted but when I unmount and remount it goes back to being root again
[01:39] <Desperate> I cant get to a terminal
[01:39] <BouerBouer> dude I was being retarded, was under the option "hide launcher when:"
[01:39] <xangua> Desperate: control+alt
[01:39] <BouerBouer> set it to Autohide, desktop looks amazing now thanks xD
[01:39] <xangua> control+alt+T Desperate
[01:39] <Baltazar> what was that command again
[01:39] <reisio> gaberlunzie: sounds like your system is configured to use the nvidia module but it isn't loaded
[01:39] <Desperate> Nothing happens
[01:39] <Pauluntu> anyone know how to get wine 1.3 to have audio for some reason games like wow or oblivion both wich use it have no audio but audio is working
[01:39] <bluelotus> yea except there is nothing i can go to... i can just about change the wallpaper and only with the return button there isnt even an ok or cancel buttons
[01:39] <exiff> is the new package manager able to generate a list of files to download?
[01:40] <alricu> again: my problem is when i try to install ubuntu 11.10 and hit enter to "try ubuntu, it does not let me go forward, it shows me a blck screen and no more!!!!
[01:40] <StepNjump> How to update the grub guys?
[01:40] <elz89> What is the new package manager called again?
[01:40] <StepNjump> !grub
[01:40] <exiff> the software center... or something
[01:40] <elz89> alricu: have you tested the media?
[01:40] <crash1hd> reisio, nevermind thanks :)
[01:40] <white_magic> anyone know how to modify the size of icons of the 'static switcher' (ALT+TAB thing)?
[01:41] <elz89> exiff: I doubt it is the software centre, that isn't new.
[01:41] <exiff> I don't know what it is called.
[01:41] <iridium__> !wine > Pauluntu
[01:41] <kwtm2> SetiAmon: How do you switch to/from pulse?  I seem to always default to alsa, and mplayer always gets an error when trying to use pulseaudio.
[01:41] <alricu> elz89: yes i did!! but everything works fine in another computer!!!
[01:41] <reisio> Pauluntu: 1.3.?
[01:42] <gaberlunzie> reisio: any clue how to get nvidia loaded again? the system fails to load lightdm and hangs on "checking battery state" when booting and startx gives those err msgs
[01:42] <reisio> elz89: software center
[01:42] <elz89> alricu: Can you try a usb boot instead?
[01:42] <reisio> elz89: but you can still install/use synaptic if you want
[01:42] <Stupendoussteve> exiff: If you need a list to manually download later or something, I suggest using apt-get or aptitude
[01:42] <Stupendoussteve> exiff: The Software Center tries to make that process as transparent as possible
[01:42] <elz89> exiff: sorry I thought you may have known when you said: ( 02:39      exiff ) is the new package manager able to generate a list of files to download?
[01:42] <alricu> elz89:  i did it too!!!! but didnt work!!!
[01:42] <exiff> so I was right... but does it have the ability to generate a list of downloads?
[01:42] <elz89> alricu: sorry I'm am out of Ideas there...
[01:43] <reisio> gaberlunzie: sudo modprobe nvidia
[01:43] <reisio> gaberlunzie: and you'll want to list it in /etc/modules, etc.
[01:43] <alricu> elz89: me too!!!!!!!!
[01:43] <bluelotus> hmmmmm
[01:43] <Pauluntu> reisio: idk i just installed the wine 1.3 package from the software center today
[01:43] <exiff> no, my circumstances are such that I need to actually get the files from a more cost effective source...
[01:43] <reisio> Pauluntu: run 'wine --version'
[01:44] <bluelotus> i guess i gonna have to switch back to mint.... until ubuntu is fixed
[01:44] <exiff> so I used to make a list in synaptic, go and download and come back to 'install downloaded packages '
[01:44] <gaberlunzie> reisio: ok, i'll give it a shot when i restart but how do i save the log? it doesnt appear when i run livecd, even though i'm seeing the mounts
[01:44] <vimojnguoi_> ubuntu-vn
[01:44] <Stupendoussteve> exiff: I checked for you and no, it appears it will install all dependencies without giving you a list
[01:45] <vimojnguoi_> #ubuntu-vn
[01:45] <daniel__1> So, I upgraded to 11.10, installed gnome-panel and A LOT of things doesn't work(like terminal profiles, left-click on a panel, changing gnome theme etc).Is there a way to fix the system or should I just reinstall/change dist?
[01:45] <exiff> ah, pity... thanks.   :)
[01:45] <Stupendoussteve> exiff: You can still install and use synaptic, software center is just a more simple frontend
[01:45] <exiff> 'install synaptic' huh... how?
[01:45] <Satanaa> apt-get
[01:45] <elz89> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[01:46] <chaitanyakaul> reisio: didnt work
[01:46] <chaitanyakaul> reisio: used the guide
[01:46] <reisio> exiff: seriously?  The same way you install anything
[01:46] <chaitanyakaul> reisio: still after reboot nothing!
[01:46] <exiff> how do I know which dependencies to get?
[01:46] <reisio> chaitanyakaul: is the config still set how it was before you rebooted?
[01:46] <Satanaa> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[01:46] <reisio> exiff: you don't need to, that's apt-get's job
[01:46] <reisio> this isn't Windows
[01:46] <chaitanyakaul> reisio: ya it is
[01:47] <bluelotus> nevermind i fixed it.... my mistake.... i just need to hide my home folder's hidden files they are messing with the settings... the guest account works just fine... cheers :)
[01:47] <elz89> apt-get may make a recommendation however.
[01:47] <Stupendoussteve> exiff: It will tell you "the following extra packages will be installed"
[01:47] <v1z_> hi, i just upgraded to 11.10 from 11.04, but after reboot I have a broken display manager.
[01:47] <Stupendoussteve> exiff: So, you get the main package and you get the extra packages it would install
[01:47] <elz89> bluelotus: take your mint comment back :-P
[01:47] <exiff> will it give me the urls?
[01:47] <chaitanyakaul> reisio: but still i have to run the manual command again after every rebot
[01:47] <Stupendoussteve> exiff: No, but packages.ubuntu.com works
[01:47] <ultrixx> can i upgrade directly from 10.10 to 11.10?
[01:47] <reisio> chaitanyakaul: that's odd
[01:47] <reisio> chaitanyakaul: you could use rc.local at last temporarily, though
[01:47] <elz89> ultrixx: yes
[01:47] <exiff> whew.
[01:47] <ultrixx> how?
[01:48] <Stupendoussteve> exiff: And apparently from a default install, synaptic doesn't have extra dependencies anyway
[01:48] <chaitanyakaul> reisio: how?
[01:48] <daniel__1> ultrixx: I upgraded from 11.04 to 11.10 and it got really fucked up. good luck
[01:48] <elz89> do-distupgarde
[01:48] <exiff> I hope that's the case.
[01:48] <reisio> chaitanyakaul: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RcLocalHowto
[01:48] <v1z_> now, I had to stop the upgrade halfway through because the screensaver froze
[01:48] <bazhang> daniel__1, no cursing here
[01:48] <elz89> ]I upgraded my girl to 11.10 last night, so far so good ;-)
[01:48] <ultrixx> daniel__: thanks
[01:48] <daniel__1> ultrixx: and at least uninstall packages that downloads third party things, like flash
[01:49] <gwb> Unity on 11.10: How do I add/remove applets to/from the top panel,  in general?
[01:49] <bazhang> ultrixx, there is no direct upgrade, you need to go through 11.04
[01:49] <daniel__1> ultrixx: because when that kind of package fails to download your upgrade will be more or less aborted
[01:49] <reisio> my gf is old fashioned, still has Multics on her
[01:49] <chaitanyakaul> reisio: coud i create a bash script that could be somewhere on my desktop n after every reboot i coud just run it and it would spare me from typing everything again
[01:49] <reisio> chaitanyakaul: that's what rc.local is
[01:49] <v1z_> ...is there a way I can boot in recovery mode and from there resume installation?
[01:49] <chaitanyakaul> ohhk...will see then
[01:49] <elz89> bazhang: really? Iv got some LTS machines to sort soon :-(
[01:49] <exiff> removal of synaptic really works against those who(have to) install like me...
[01:49] <reisio> Pauluntu: well?
[01:50] <exiff> anyway,  thanks a lot.
[01:50] <v1z_> I guess I stopped it while questions were being asked by the upgrade utility
[01:50] <elz89> exiff: use aptitude then :-P
[01:50] <Desperate> Again, unity will not appear after changing compiz settings, cannot get to a terminal by any means, THIS IS NOT MY COMPUTER so i really need help!
[01:50] <ultrixx> i think i will stick with 10.10 then. i like that version very much. still without unity and has got all i need
[01:50] <Stupendoussteve> elz89: they removed aptitude too =O
[01:50] <elz89> I know, my 'fresh install' script is growing :-P
[01:51] <reisio> elz89: could just switch to Debian :p
[01:51] <exiff> maybe packages.ubuntu.com should have a script that generates a list of dependencies and their urls
[01:51] <hydester> anybody know of the performanace impacts of encrypted home directory (ecryptfs) and perhaps better performing alteratives?
[01:51] <daniel__1> ultrixx: my upgrade to 11.04 was quite painless, just had to remove the new stupid scrollbars
[01:51] <chaitanyakaul> reisio: it is showing several lines of ~ ~ should i just type on "sudo ethtool -s eth0 autoneg off speed 10 duplex full"
[01:51] <elz89> reisio: I would, and have tried. But I need some guidance at some point I think :-P
[01:51] <bazhang> elz89, you can simply go from lts to lts when 12.04 is released
[01:52] <elz89> ahhh
[01:52] <dark_eye> ultrixx: Just move on to Fuduntu
[01:52] <bazhang> dark_eye, thats fedora
[01:52] <bazhang> dark_eye, please dont recommend non ubuntu solutions here
[01:52] <Desperate> Again, unity will not appear after changing compiz settings, cannot get to a terminal by any means, THIS IS NOT MY COMPUTER so i really need help!
[01:52]  * elz89 slaps dark_eye
[01:52] <trojanerPT> move to debia
[01:53] <trojanerPT> move to debian
[01:53] <chaitanyakaul> reisio: ?
[01:53] <bazhang> trojanerPT, stop that
[01:53]  * elz89 slaps trojanerPT
[01:53] <trojanerPT> debian is ubuntu
[01:53] <bazhang> !helpme | Desperate
[01:53] <Stupendoussteve> Desperate: ctrl alt F1 to get to the terminal, alt F7 to get back
[01:53] <bazhang> trojanerPT, thats enough
[01:53] <daniel__1> ultrixx: but my recent(one hour ago) upgrade left my computer so fsck:ed so I have to reinstall or change dist
[01:53] <xangua> Desperate: did you already reset unity¿
[01:53] <trojanerPT> UBUNTU is a fork of DEBIAN
[01:53] <daniel__1> trojanerPT: ubuntu is debian, not the other way around
[01:53] <rypervenche> trojanerPT: lol
[01:53] <reisio> chaitanyakaul: a command, yes
[01:54] <rypervenche> Ubuntu is not Debian :/
[01:54] <trojanerPT> UBUNTU is a fork of DEBIAN
[01:54] <daniel__1> hehe
[01:54] <Desperate> I tried resetting unity, but when i ctrl alt f1 to a virtual terminal, it says it cant find unity
[01:54] <bazhang> trojanerPT, did you have a support question?
[01:54] <trojanerPT> yes DEBIUAN IS MUCH BETTER
[01:54] <Satanaa> ubuntu is based on Debian Testing afaik
[01:54] <chaitanyakaul> reisio: then to save, i just have to close the terminal window right?
[01:54] <Desperate> ctrl alt T does nothing
[01:54] <reisio> chaitanyakaul: um
[01:54] <Satanaa> only thing bad about debian is icewheasel
[01:54] <reisio> chaitanyakaul: what editor are you using, Vim?
[01:54] <Satanaa> and whats bad? solow updating
[01:55] <Satanaa> slow*
[01:55] <reisio> you can use Firefox on Debian, too, if you really want
[01:55] <haddock_> I find 11.10 extremely buggy. Seems more like they released the Beta version in order to meet the deadline.
[01:55] <elz89> reisio: I bet nano :-P
[01:55] <reisio> Satanaa: reliable :p
[01:55] <Satanaa> you can and i do
[01:55] <reisio> I don't think nano uses ~'s
[01:55] <Satanaa> reisio whats reliable?
[01:55] <reisio> Satanaa: Debian updating
[01:55] <chaitanyakaul> reisio: it's the default one, i mean it shows up all in the terminal window
[01:55] <Flynsarmy> 11.04 gnome classic. How can I set compiz to be the default window manager? I have no idea what it is atm, but if i type compiz --replace i can turn it on. I want it to be compiz by default
[01:55] <chaitanyakaul> reisio: ny other editor?
[01:55] <tigranes> Does anybody know how to make the launcher always visible in 11.10 Unity? Setting "Hide Launcher" to "Never" in CompizConfig does nothing :\
[01:55] <reisio> chaitanyakaul: what editor did you RUN?
[01:55] <Satanaa> reisio ofc, its proper tested before released
[01:56] <reisio> Satanaa: ofc
[01:56] <v1z_> how to resume upgrading in CLI (maintanence mode or live cd)?
[01:56] <Satanaa> i was talking about icewheasel.. always behind with updates
[01:56] <Flynsarmy> err, 11.10
[01:56] <Satanaa> iceweasel == delayed firefox
[01:56] <reisio> Satanaa: you can use Firefox on Debian, too, if you really want
[01:56] <chaitanyakaul> reisio: first of all i opened the link u gave me,then opened the terminal, ran the first command that;s it
[01:56] <daniel__1> v1z_: What's happened?
[01:56] <Satanaa> reisio i do
[01:56] <tommylarssen> Hey, i got a little problem. I just moved my server to my own place, and trying to get SSH setup again successfully. Able to SSH in through both 192, and localhost, however not through External. Ports are forwarded. Using 2 routers, does that have anything to do with it?
[01:56] <reisio> Satanaa: so qyb :p
[01:56] <Satanaa> im not a gui *beep*
[01:57] <Stupendoussteve> Satanaa: If you use the default one. They have "channels" of icewheasel where you can install even up to the current firefox aurora
[01:57] <reisio> chaitanyakaul: and you can't tell me what that command was because it's top secret?
[01:57] <purpleyuan> Question: Why is the brasero package put together with the gnome package?
[01:57] <gwb> xangua: I ran unity --reset.  Still don't have logout key to right of my name on top panel. Still missing icons on the launcher too!
[01:57] <zacarias> Firefox 3.6.23 crashing. Any help?
[01:57] <Satanaa> Stupendoussteve thats new to me :P
[01:57] <chaitanyakaul> reisio: sudo vi /etc/init.d/local
[01:57] <Satanaa> but i always just download firefox when on debian
[01:57] <v1z_> daniel__: screensaver froze during the question phase of installation I guess, then I can only use recovery mode
[01:57] <xangua> zacarias: upgrade to firefox 7
[01:57] <reisio> chaitanyakaul: okay, you type ':wq' and hit ENTER
[01:58] <v1z_> daniel__: thus, I need to resume the uograde from recovery
[01:58] <chaitanyakaul> reisio: hmm
[01:58] <tommylarssen> Running a SSH -v now to see if i can get some debug info out of it, problem is that it is just stuck there, at "connecting". Got a feeling it might be a firewall issue, anyone know how to check?:p
[01:58] <reisio> zacarias: how about if you run it with -safe-mode ?
[01:58] <zacarias> xangua: I can't, I'm running on a power pc machine
[01:58] <daniel__1> vlt: how far did the upgrade go? it started to configure packages?
[01:58] <haddock_> Anyway to fix the Dashboard in the 11.10 ?? Search not working suddenly. and no second level icons :(
[01:59] <Desperate> xangua: i cant reset unity because ctrl+alt+T does nothing, and virtual terminals cant find unity
[01:59] <jeremy-77> there is no way to get the original gnome classic on ubuntu 11.10 now is there?  the gnome clasic that I am able to get is not at all customizable  like the original.  so do I just need to go back to 11.04 and stay there or look for a different linux distro with the old classic gnome?
[01:59] <zacarias> reisio: what's the advantage of that, sorry to ask?
[01:59] <bazhang> !notunity | jeremy-77
[01:59] <reisio> jeremy-77: I'm not aware of any project to keep GNOME 2 maintained, so you're going to have to bite the bullet sometime, or find another DE
[01:59] <xangua> !gnome2 | jeremy-77 luck with that ;)
[02:00] <reisio> jeremy-77: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html might help a bit, though
[02:01] <jeremy-77> gnome 2 is the only reason I have stuck with linux and ubuntu
[02:01] <v1z_> daniel__1: it did everything it could do before asking questions I huess
[02:01] <reisio> Pauluntu: anyways, make sure you have Wine version 1.3.25 or higher
[02:01] <tigranes> On another topic, would anyone know of a good decent web hosting service for roughly US$10/month that allows Perl & CGI?
[02:01] <v1z_> guess,
[02:01] <daniel__1> jeremy-77: I might have the same problem, upgraded to 11.10, installed gnome-panel, using gnome classic and it's more or less unusable
[02:01] <xangua> !ot | tigranes
[02:01] <reisio> tigranes: https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ more like $10 a year
[02:02] <daniel__1> jeremy-77: can you configure panels?
[02:02] <v1z_> daniel__1: because I could see from the terminal that it had finished dpkg stuff and was idle
[02:02] <tigranes> Err, sorry.
[02:02] <daniel__1> vlt: what does /etc/lsb-release say?
[02:02] <v1z_> daniel__1: then I hat to reboot; then the display manager was pure broken
[02:03] <Flynsarmy> reisio discovered if i run compiz --replace it switches to the 3d desktop i was looking for. How can I set it to that by default thougH? When i log in it has Gnome Classic selected...so as far as i'm aware it should be happening
[02:03] <v1z_> daniel__1: 11.10
[02:03] <johnjohn101> will there be more unity configuration tools coming up in the next few versions?
[02:03] <jeremy-77> daniel__1,  yeah I cant configure my pannels and install docky or anything I want to do...I have always like ubuntu for stabilizability but I think they are getting rid of all the abillitys to customize ubuntu like we use too
[02:03] <reisio> Flynsarmy: not an option near the bottom of the DM?
[02:04] <Flynsarmy> reisio DM? (sorry, pretty big noob here)
[02:04] <daniel__1> jeremy-77: good for you, I can't configure my panels or configure the terminal
[02:04] <reisio> Flynsarmy: the login screen
[02:04] <Flynsarmy> reisio: i'll have a log out and test. bbs
[02:04] <v1z_> daniel__1: in a desperat eattempt I rebooted in recovery mode and issued dpkg --configure -a
[02:05] <v1z_> daniel__: it started doing its thing, but "halted because there was too many errors"
[02:05] <__machine> how does upstart kill/stop jobs? the job files i've been looking at only tell upstart how to start a service? now when i call service couchpotato stop it just hangs there… initctl list says stop/killed … but its still running?
[02:05] <daniel__1> vlz_: what happened then? you reconfigured everything and it stiff doesn't work?
[02:05] <jeremy-77> daniel__1,  I guess its back to 11.04 untill they stop support and dump ubuntu for a different distro find a better desktop then unity....ive tried to get use to unity for months now and just cant make myself like it
[02:06] <Flynsarmy> reisio Nope. 11.10 uses lightdm which only has the cog so i can change between classic, classic (no effects), unity. it's currently on classic
[02:06] <daniel__1> vlz_: I got my system in some kind of half-working mode, which is shit because I need my computer tomorrow
[02:06] <alricu> my problem is when i try to install ubuntu 11.10 and hit enter to "try ubuntu, it does not let me go forward, it shows me a black screen and no more!!!!
[02:06] <bazhang> daniel__1, no cursing here
[02:07] <gaberlunzie> reisi: yay! i'm chatting from my hd now .... modprobe nvidia showed missing nvidia_173, so i reinstalled nvidia-173* and after sudo startx was up and running! thanks!!!!
[02:07] <daniel__1> vlz_: I'm leaving ubuntu too, tomorrow. this kind of behaviour is unacceptable. Which is a pity because ubuntu has been really nice to me
[02:07] <Desperate> Ok, i have no unity, no way to get to a terminal and no way to restart unity, after changing some compiz settings.
[02:07] <haddock_> jeremy-77: well.. Its not a choice really, since the new version is junk. Its like Vista all over. We have to downgrade to get some work done. Embareassing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:07] <efpc2003> alricu:  the same problem i have
[02:07] <daniel__1> bazhang: sorry
[02:07] <efpc2003> big black screen and nothing happens
[02:07] <urlin2u> alricu, try tapping the shift at booting the cd for a choose to install,try, check memory hit F6, choose nomodeset then booot in.
[02:08] <Satanaa> btw i think i have fixed the issue i had with whenever my machine went to the screensaver ( blank screen ) i had to reboot to get back into my desktop
[02:08] <ghostnik11> Hi can anyone tell me where tomboy notes program stores its files in ubuntu 11.10 b/c i am trying to transfer my notes that i made a backup of to my external back onto my new ubuntu 11.10
[02:08] <urlin2u> efpc2003, look at my message to alricu
[02:08] <Satanaa> i just noticed that ubuntu had REMOVED!!!! xscreensaver
[02:08] <alricu> urlin2u: it didnt work for me!!! i did it; but nothing!!!
[02:08] <Satanaa> makes sense why all breaks on an upgrade
[02:08] <jeremy-77> haddock_, im use to windows forcing things on us but never thought ubuntu would.  we dont get a choice then whats the point of open source?
[02:09] <Pauluntu> anyone know a good site that tells the difference between gnome3 and unity I'm confused i hear people speak about unity but this looks like gnome3 to me so whats the big difference
[02:09] <Satanaa> removed the ubuntu screensaver package and installed the xscreensaver packages, enabled it and tada
[02:09] <Satanaa> Pauluntu unity is ontop of gnome3
[02:09] <Zuhaitz> Hi
[02:09] <gaberlunzie> reisio: oh, wrong reisi(o), hehe .... anyway, hope you saw the msg i sent reisi
[02:09] <robin0800> Desperate, ctrl+alt+delete should allow you to log out the choose unity 2d and rest compiz from there
[02:09] <peri_> good morning folks. I upgraded to 11.10 and now I find cups pdf does not work. i completely removed it and reinstalled but I still can't get it to print. most grateful for any suggestions.
[02:10] <urlin2u> Pauluntu, if you can't tell the difference google them there are screen shots of them on many websites
[02:10] <haddock_> jeremy-77: Sad but true!!! I hope Cannonical will wake up and stop trying so hard to become a Mac!
[02:10] <maslen> Can someone help? My system is extremely sluggish. When running the 'top' command, it says 70-95% of my CPU is '%wa'
[02:10] <bazhang> !ot | haddock_ jeremy-77
[02:10] <jeremy-77> haddock_,  yes I agree !
[02:10] <v1z_> daniel__1: I upgraded knowing that I would probably face trouble, I am a developer and dont mind helping out w the bugs
[02:10] <Flynsarmy> anyone know how to change the default window manager for gnome classic in 11.10? want it set to compiz
[02:10] <gaberlunzie> reisio: modprobe revealed missing nvidia_173 which i reinstalled in full and then did startx to get up and running .... so i'm back in business
[02:10] <reisio> gaberlunzie: ?
[02:10] <ultrixx> maslen: did you select btrfs as your filesystem?
[02:10] <reisio> gaberlunzie: ah, well done
[02:11] <evanbm> desparate: gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1 && unity --reset
[02:11] <reisio> gaberlunzie: survive a reboot?
[02:11] <xangua> haddock_: jeremy-77you have the choice to use another desktop or even another distro
[02:11] <alricu> efpc2003:  do you have any solution or nothing until now?
[02:11] <gaberlunzie> reisio: yup ... didnt even have to reboot, just startx
[02:11] <urlin2u> Flynsarmy, compiz is the default
[02:11] <v1z_> daniel__1: but like I almost decided to backup.. now I got screwed lol
[02:11] <daniel__1> vlz_: me too, but I feel more and more that ubuntu don't have a firm grasp on how an OS should work, it's like a children playground.
[02:11] <maslen> ultrixx: I think it's ext3. Although I did have an NTFS drive plugged in via USB. That has been disconnected now though.
[02:11] <reisio> gaberlunzie: well I mean, to make sure the module is loaded at boot time
[02:11] <haddock_> xangua:  That sounds like a Mac user talking! thanks. Goodbye :(
[02:11] <reisio> gaberlunzie: via /etc/modules or whatever
[02:12] <Flynsarmy> urlin2u: When I fire up gnome classic I'm unsure what it's using, but if I open a terminal and type compiz --replace I get the full 3d effects which I'm not currently getting
[02:12] <daniel__1> vlz_: how much of your system is working? you're using it now or another computer?
[02:12] <gaberlunzie> reisio: oh yeah! how do i ensure that?
[02:12] <Desperate> evanbm: will try, brb
[02:12] <reisio> gaberlunzie: you list it in /etc/modules, IIRC
[02:12] <exiff> well, we'll always have fond memories.
[02:12] <reisio> gaberlunzie: it's possible the package manager did it for you
[02:12] <reisio> gaberlunzie: but a reboot would confirm
[02:12] <ultrixx> maslen: just asked because i had such a problem when testing btrfs
[02:12] <urlin2u> Flynsarmy, what release?
[02:12] <Flynsarmy> urlin2u: 11.10
[02:12] <armence> Hey all, is there a command to open the sound control?
[02:12] <v1z_> daniel__1: yeah.. you are right
[02:12] <gaberlunzie> reisio: ok, i'll check to confirm
[02:12] <urlin2u> Flynsarmy, you install classic?
[02:13] <gaberlunzie> reisio: thanks anyway, for crossing that hurdle
[02:13] <Satanaa> unity 2D is good enough if you ask me
[02:13] <Satanaa> i dont get compiz
[02:13] <ex0> what's the file to edit to make a program run at startup
[02:13] <efpc2003> urlin2u: 11.04 works fine, i dont trust in 11.10 (amd64, amd apu a8-3850)
[02:13] <Flynsarmy> urlin2u: yes, i'm on gnome classic
[02:13] <jolaren> I want to use facebook in terminal.. to stay online alyways.. is it possible? ssh in screen=
[02:13] <v1z_> daniel__1: so I rebooted after the (halted) dpkg configure
[02:13] <urlin2u> Flynsarmy, did you install it how about a screen shot.
[02:13] <Satanaa> jolaren yes
[02:13] <exiff> jolaren, try w3m
[02:14] <Satanaa> use elinks or lynx.. or something
[02:14] <v1z_> daniel__1: at least it doenst lock my computer into a broken login manager
[02:14] <daniel__1> vlz_: hehe, for some reason irssi doens't auto-complete your nick.
[02:14] <ex0> what file do you edit to add programs to run at startup??
[02:14] <reisio> gaberlunzie: np
[02:14] <v1z_> daniel__1: I am in text mode now, yey
[02:14] <daniel__1> vlz_: that's nice
[02:14] <daniel__1> haha
[02:14] <Satanaa> and always online lynx in screen, over ssh
[02:14] <troii> gosh im very diasppointed with ubuntu..
[02:14] <troii> its slow as hell..
[02:14] <troii> im getting weird error too
[02:15] <Satanaa> troii try ubuntu 2d
[02:15] <bazhang> troii, #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[02:15] <bazhang> troii, pastebin the exact error messages
[02:15] <Flynsarmy> urlin2u: I installed it with sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback. In the login screen I have the option to select classic or classic (no effects). I picked classic. I currently have no effects but if i run compiz --replace, they start working and I get the nice 3d look.
[02:15] <maslen> Any other ideas why the CPU seems to be burning itself up, on idle?
[02:15] <bazhang> !paste | troii
[02:15] <Satanaa> bazhang he was complaining, pretty ontopic ;)
[02:15] <v1z_> troii: better computer needed;  for speed try another distro (not that I luv ubuntu)
[02:15] <troii> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavai
[02:15] <bazhang> Satanaa, no it's not
[02:15] <daniel__1> vlz_: X is working, but I can't configure anything, I use gnome+xmonad, changes in gnome-terminal profile is ignores, I can't remove panels that was added during the upgrade, setting the WM the gnome 'reigstry' is ignored etc etc.
[02:15] <urlin2u> Flynsarmy, try startup apps and see if the option to turn on compiz is there if not make one.
[02:15] <maslen> ultrixx: nmto be taking up a rather large amou power (36% or so)
[02:15] <bazhang> troii, close other package managers
[02:16] <troii> how?
[02:16] <Satanaa> bazhang so that his install is slow is not ontopic? hehe
[02:16] <daniel__1> vlz_: so, more or less like being suck in the console:)
[02:16] <de2> Is there anyway to close down windows simular to windows 7 (ctrl + alt + del ) in ubuntu
[02:16] <daniel__1> *stuck
[02:16] <bazhang> troii, only one instance of apt can run at a time
[02:16] <nuno_nunes> Ths a new version on ubuntu is a confused :S
[02:16] <v1z_> daniel__1: but at least this is better than recovery mode; I think I have a better chance now
[02:16] <Flynsarmy> urlin2u: not sure hwo to get to startup apps now that the administration menu has been removed from gnome classic
[02:16] <Marine1> does any here have a hack or different setup in thunderbird so I can import from yahoo
[02:16] <de2> Is there anyway to close down windows simular to windows 7 (ctrl + alt + del ) in ubuntu
[02:16] <Snape> Anyone else can't stand "oneric ocelot" either?
[02:17] <troii> ok so how do i close the other one as i got no idea.. bazhang
[02:17] <Snape> Unity, ugh.
[02:17] <Snape> derp.
[02:17] <bazhang> Snape, that s not a support question
[02:17] <Snape> oh sorry.
[02:17] <Snape> moving right along.
[02:17] <Flynsarmy> urlin2u: is it in system settings somehwere?
[02:17] <v1z_> daniel__1: about the nick, weird, irssi is awesome... just cuz my nick has a number in it
[02:17] <Desperate> evan: i tried that command but it says unity is not installed. i never uninstalled it, though
[02:17] <cinch123> Is there a way to get the launcher to appear with a mouse gesture when you have a maximized window?
[02:17] <maslen> I think the samba daemon may have exploded. It's using 25-45 % CPU with nobody accessing anything.
[02:17] <Satanaa> hehe i decided to give unity a chance now they the devs forced on us so badly hehe
[02:17] <Jasonn> Snape: I started hating at 11.04
[02:17] <de2> Is there anyway to close down windows simular to windows 7 (ctrl + alt + del ) in ubuntu
[02:17] <bazhang> troii, let you r install finish , check for others open
[02:17] <Satanaa> de2 you can add that
[02:18] <Jasonn> de2: alt + f4
[02:18] <troii> i closed the terminal window
[02:18] <reisio> de2: to get the logoff/shut down dialog?
[02:18] <bazhang> Jasonn, thats enough
[02:18] <stewart_> hey guys I used to have a raid-0 array which i have since got rid of and are now running two drives. I have managed to install windows however ubuntu still picks up the two drives as a single raid array. How can i remove the raid so ubuntu does not see it?
[02:18] <daniel__1> vlz_: Of course, you have networking :p Question is, is it worth it? If Ubuntu don't care about upgrades, why keep it?
[02:18] <de2> no
[02:18] <robin0800> de2,  ctrl+alt+delete should allow you to log out
[02:18] <urlin2u> Flynsarmy, I haven't used the classic for a while but it is a standard application in the system, I use synapse to get most things up, a gnome-do like search app
[02:18] <de2> I want to close unresponding windows
[02:18] <nuno_nunes> i find on web is a sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[02:18] <bazhang> de2, xkill from alt f2
[02:18] <Marine1> does any here have a hack or different setup in thunderbird so I can import from yahoo?
[02:18] <v1z_> daniel__1: wow that sucks, but I will get there I hope... so your upgrade was interrupted as well?
[02:18] <urlin2u> gnome-panel is the correct classic install line
[02:19] <Satanaa> de2 there was a force close icon, but cant be used now :(
[02:19] <armence> How can I open volume control from the cli?
[02:19] <de2> bah
[02:19] <daniel__1> vlz_: I don't see a number in your nick, I only see 'vlz_'
[02:19] <troii> i got prompted some stuff , sort of ms-dos type of install window, that i couldnt click ''ok'' so i closed it
[02:19] <Satanaa> otherwise you have to open a shell and use killall
[02:19] <Satanaa> or just kill
[02:19] <troii> so bazhang how do i get the other install process to close?
[02:19] <de2> i downloaded the screenlets manager and now its a fucking weather icon in the middle of screen
[02:19] <de2> and i cant get it away
[02:19] <de2> i just want to close that shit down
[02:19] <v1z_> daniel__1: vee one zee
[02:19] <nuno_nunes> ok :D
[02:19] <bazhang> de2, no cursing here
[02:19] <reisio> armence: you want to open a GUI mixer, or merely control volume?
[02:20] <pujger> Hello
[02:20] <pujger> How do I install ActiveX plugins for iceweasel
[02:20] <de2> Btw ty bazhang got it to work with xkill :)
[02:20] <reisio> pujger: you don't
[02:20] <evanbm> desparate: i upgraded from natty. played with compiz, lost unity.  the reset fixed me.  don't know why you're getting no unity.
[02:20] <pujger> Or do I need windows for it
[02:20] <de2> is there any fast command for xkill?
[02:20] <daniel__1> vlz_: My upgrade was interrupted because it couldn't download flash. I reconfigured and fixed stuff. Now it's up to date and configured but it stiff doesn't work
[02:20] <bazhang> pujger, activex?
[02:20] <pujger> yes
[02:20] <reisio> pujger: Wine would suffice
[02:20] <pujger> It says "If ActiveX controller cannot be display, please click here to install.
[02:20] <Satanaa> pujger you better go to their channel or debian for that
[02:20] <pujger> really?
[02:21] <troii> bazhang , heres the paste bin
[02:21] <troii> http://paste.ubuntu.com/709166/
[02:21] <bazhang> pujger, you are on debian?
[02:21] <pujger> why
[02:21] <reisio> pujger: the best idea, though, would be to find another website :p
[02:21] <v1z_> daniel__1: so I read online that u should upgrade all 11.04 packages first prior to doing the big 11.10 upgrade; I wish the upgrade manager would have done that, what a lazy app
[02:21] <Desperate> ugh...
[02:21] <pujger> yes I am
[02:21] <daniel__1> v1z_: haha, that's what I get for not being able fo configure gone-terminal. standard mono-space fonts where 1 and l looks the same...
[02:21] <bazhang> pujger, #debian
[02:21] <Marine1> need help setting up yahoo in thunderbird! imap and smtp not working. There is a work around
[02:21] <pujger> Does it automatically use activex in Ubuntu?
[02:21] <bazhang> pujger, no
[02:21] <Satanaa> pujger nothing linux based does
[02:22] <Satanaa> activex is bad
[02:22] <c_smith> hey, is there a way to make a seperate /home directory when installing Ubuntu?
[02:22] <Satanaa> i know firefox has an addon for it
[02:22] <v1z_> daniel__1: ok so at least irssi is not buggy
[02:22] <reisio> it's a pain to use in Firefox even on Windows
[02:22] <bazhang> c_smith, sure there is. manual partitioning scheme
[02:22] <reisio> c_smith: for another user?
[02:22] <Satanaa> i wouldnt know
[02:22] <v1z_> daniel__1: that would mean the end!
[02:22] <daniel__1> v1z_: Upgraded all 11.04 packages first, didn't matter. But you're right, an upgrade manager should force you to do that if that's the most safe way to handle things. That's what I mean with Ubuntu not taking their business seriously.
[02:22] <bazhang> c_smith, or use the gparted live cd to prepare beforehand
[02:22] <cinch123> Unity question: How do I get the launcher to appear when I have a window maximized?
[02:22] <daniel__1> v1z_: na, irssi works just fine
[02:23] <Zeelot> hey guys, I just insralled 11.10 but compared to my windows 7 install (dual boot) the internet connection (wired) is completely unstable. downloads go for a couple seconds then hang for another 5... it's extremely painful. Anyone know off hand what could be the issue? I disabled IPv6 at first but it doesn't seem to fix anything
[02:23] <Stupendoussteve> Marine1: You might see if YPOPS! works in wine
[02:23] <maslen> ultrixx: It was the smbd/nmbd daemons. Restarting both fixed it. Strange though.
[02:23] <Satanaa> cinch123 windows key
[02:23] <daniel__1> v1z_: you don't have X or you can't start X?
[02:23] <urlin2u> Zeelot, what is the card, broadcom maybe?
[02:23] <Zeelot> urlin2u: could you tell me how to find out?
[02:24] <Stupendoussteve> cinch123: Move the mouse cursor to the edge of the screen
[02:24] <Satanaa> Stupendoussteve windows key is the most logic way to do it
[02:24] <urlin2u> Zeelot, lspci in the terminal will list stuff you will have to find it.
[02:24] <smw> Hi all. Here is my fdisk -l: http://pastebin.com/Q8WiyVgq . How can I use grub to boot sda2? (hd0,1)?
[02:24] <cinch123> Satanaa: Super displays the Dash, not just the launcher.
[02:24] <Marine1> Stupendoussteve, I haven't taken that route plus i'm running gnome 3.2
[02:24] <Lieutenant_Dan> I'm about to restart after upgrading, lets see how this goes..
[02:25] <Flynsarmy> can anyone tell me the app name for startup applications? I'm not using unity and therefore don't have the cog at the top right and can't get to that window anymore now that they've removed the 'applications' menu from gnome-session-fallback
[02:25] <xangua> cinch123: just drag your mouse to the left
[02:25] <Satanaa> cinch123 oh
[02:25] <Zeelot> urlin2u: Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06)
[02:25] <Stupendoussteve> Marine1: Not sure what that has to do with it, you're trying to get Yahoo to work in Thunderbird, no?
[02:25] <c_smith> I know I'd use the manual partitioning scheme, but for the /home partition, would I put the mount point as /home?
[02:25] <urlin2u> !realtek
[02:25] <Marine1> Stupendoussteve, thunderbird works great for mail/hotmail.com great but yahoo is a pain
[02:25] <urlin2u> Zeelot, you se the bot message?
[02:25] <cinch123> Stupendoussteve: It doesn't appear when I move the mouse to the left if I have a window maximized.
[02:25] <Marine1> Stupendoussteve, yes
[02:25] <Zeelot> urlin2u: yeah
[02:25] <smw> c_smith, yes
[02:25] <c_smith> cool. that told me all I need to know, thanks
[02:26] <Marine1> Stupendoussteve, i shouldn't have to set up wine to do that
[02:26] <urlin2u> Zeelot, cool people can help here to just mention the setup.
[02:26] <Zeelot> urlin2u: the link seems to be about wifi
[02:26] <c_smith> now, I believe I need to partition accordingly, shouldn't be hard.
[02:26] <Zuhaitz> Hi, I installed gnome-shell in Ubuntu 11.10 and I have a problem with menu, when I go to activities then windows of ALL workspaces get organiced but in a bad way, over the virtual  workspaces manager for example, is like a bug, what can I do?
[02:26] <c_smith> thanks for the help
[02:26] <urlin2u> Zeelot, you haveing prob;ems just with ether?
[02:26] <Zeelot> yeah
[02:26] <Flynsarmy> Anyone here running 10.10 or earlier?
[02:26] <Lieutenant_Dan> well, that went quite smoothly
[02:27] <reisio> Flynsarmy: taking a poll?
[02:27] <Marine1> Stupendoussteve, how about this: http://ymap.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/yahooproxy.c
[02:27] <urlin2u> Zeelot, more info is good not really sure myself other than realteks ca be problematic.
[02:27] <Flynsarmy> reisio no, i'm trying to get to the damn startup apps window. you can't get to it anymore in gnome classic. so frustrating
[02:27] <urlin2u> can*
[02:27] <Flynsarmy> reisio trying to find out the app name so i can run it
[02:27] <Dougie187> Has anyone had any issues with full screen wine apps making unity become "always behind" other windows?
[02:27] <v1z_> daniel__1: cant start the display manager; it freezes up; strangely I think it mit be a ubuntu kubuntu conflict, cuz I installed kubuntu full, then I went back to unity (because I wanted the kfpde packages). i have a feeling that has confused the upgrade.
[02:28] <reisio> Flynsarmy: /etc/xdg/autostart ?
[02:28] <Marine1> Stupendoussteve, who would I compile in gcc
[02:28] <Zuhaitz> Did someone read me
[02:28] <urlin2u> Flynsarmy, install gnpme-do or synapse and a key prompt wil  givwe you a serach for any app.
[02:28] <urlin2u> gnome-do*
[02:28] <Marine1> Stupendoussteve, I should of said How.
[02:28] <Flynsarmy> reisio I was referring to the GUI app in all previous versions of ubuntu that's even in 11.10 but you can only get to it from unity
[02:29] <reisio> Flynsarmy: and I was referring to a solution
[02:29] <lauratika> im using ubuntu 11.10 with 2 accounts admin and guest but if im using admin account and try to login in guest ubuntu freezes and wont log in any ideas what can be the prob?...
[02:29] <v1z_> daniel__1: I always felt that for most distros a fresh install is usually better... anyways, I tried... now I am likely to just install fresh
[02:29] <reisio> v1z_: what?
[02:29] <Stupendoussteve> Marine1: If you've installed everything (more or less installing build-essential), you could type make yahooproxy in the directory holding that code
[02:29] <Zeelot> urlin2u: looks like this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-meta/+bug/864196
[02:29] <reisio> reinstalling for an update is unheard of
[02:29] <reisio> outside of this channel, anyways
[02:30] <Flynsarmy> urlin2u: installing gnome-do is installing a bunch of gnome 2 libraries. hope this doesn't screw me over further :(
[02:30] <daniel__1> v1z_: yeah, kind of. Or you can always fo FreeBSD...
[02:30] <v1z_> reisio: whau u mean? for most systems an upgrade does leave trash behind; a 100% flawless upgrade is impossible
[02:31] <DEdesigns57> How do I get Ubuntu tweak?
[02:31] <reisio> v1z_: at this point I honestly doubt you have ever used another distro
[02:31] <urlin2u> Flynsarmy, shouldn't
[02:31] <reisio> DEdesigns57: gnome-tweak-tool ?
[02:31] <v1z_> reisio: and I doubt you ever programmed
[02:31] <reisio> good for you :p
[02:31] <Flynsarmy> urlin2u: wow, that really does work. thanks
[02:32] <urlin2u> DEdesigns57, ubuntu tweak only has a beta that does not provide much as of now for oneiric
[02:32] <bazhang> v1z_, back on topic please
[02:32] <sgs2_usr> any can tell me how to place the X-Chat to the envelop icon in Ubuntu 11.10?
[02:32] <Dougie187> It's pretty backed in here. lol
[02:32] <DEdesigns57> I think so, I want to be able to customize my desktop more
[02:32] <daniel__1> reisio: I will have to reinstall because I upgraded. not complaining, it's just a simple fact
[02:32] <urlin2u> Flynsarmy, I use synapse but yeah it can make life easier
[02:32] <Dougie187> packed*
[02:32] <Dougie187> ...
[02:32] <reisio> daniel__1: of your situation perhaps, but it's abnormal for most Linux distro usage
[02:33] <Flynsarmy> urlin2u: ok - doesn't appear to be a compiz option in the startup apps. If I added one, wouldn't it just load whatever window manager is already loading then replace with compiz resulting in a much slower startup than necessary?
[02:33] <Flynsarmy> urlin2u: as well as a big flicker when that startup app fires
[02:34] <v1z_> bazhang: reisio: its an on topic remark... you program and you see how many libs are left back.. behind; I use gentoo as well, and every like 5 years I do a fresh reinstall ;)
[02:34] <urlin2u> DEdesigns57, that is the latest release though, you could try the standard what will work is all that should work.
[02:34] <reisio> v1z_: every 5 years you waste your time
[02:34] <bazhang> v1z_, no it's not. chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:34] <lauratika> please any one?
[02:34] <v1z_> reisio: why?
[02:34] <reisio> lauratika: yes?
[02:34] <TriumphOfDeath> Hello, somebody know if deb packages has troubles on ubuntu 11.10, I mean I can't Install it.. USoftwareCenter tells me something lie u don't have permissions or the file is damage, both cases are ok
[02:34] <reisio> v1z_: because it's unnecessary
[02:35] <TriumphOfDeath> *like
[02:35] <v1z_> reisio: enlighten me
[02:35] <reisio> TriumphOfDeath: what package?
[02:35] <bazhang> reisio, v1z_ wrong place for this
[02:35] <urlin2u> Flynsarmy, yeah my startup is a bit slower but I have the cupe and other pluguns running, you I guess have to mess around s=and see what makes you happy.
[02:35] <TriumphOfDeath> reisio: hi, google chrome
[02:35] <urlin2u> cube*
[02:35] <reisio> TriumphOfDeath: why don't you use chromium from the Ubuntu repos?
[02:36] <Dougie187> So, when I play starcraft 2 (fullscreen) in wine, unity falls into the background, and no longer comes up above windows.
[02:36] <lauratika> reisio:??
[02:36] <bazhang> TriumphOfDeath, google chrome has the google repos
[02:36] <kwtm> What is the program that plays the "boot-up" and "shut down" sounds? It seems to work but other applications such as mplayer and amarok don't seem to work.
[02:36] <reisio> lauratika: what's up?
[02:36] <Flynsarmy> urlin2u: is there a way to customize what those options in the lightdm prefs do? for instance atm there's a gnome classic and a gnome classic (no effects). i'm wondering if gnome classic has --metacity or somethig instead of --compiz. perhaps changing that is wha ti need to do
[02:36] <lauratika> oh... i cant login into second account
[02:36] <TriumphOfDeath> reisio: yep but the throuble is with alot of debs, google earth deb has problems too
[02:36] <daniel__1> reisio: Off Topic!! It's not the first time, and not only Ubuntu. But I believe that as long as linux distribution keeps on mixing the OS and third party applications upgrading will be a problem.
[02:36] <reisio> Dougie187: after you quit Starcraft, you mean?
[02:37] <reisio> lauratika: what happens when you try?
[02:37] <Stupendoussteve> TriumphOfDeath: Google hasn't updated them for the new release
[02:37] <Dougie187> reisio: both while it's playing and after it's running.
[02:37] <cinch123> Triumphofdeath: Dowload the .deb from chrome.google.com, install with sudo dpkg -i google-chrome-whatever
[02:37] <SetiAmon> Anyone here have sound issues,static,distortions and so forth?
[02:37] <lauratika> if im using admin and change users insert passwrod of second account and nothing happens
[02:37] <TriumphOfDeath> reisio: ok better
[02:37] <Dougie187> If it's running, and I change to another viewport I can't bring the panel (left side) above any windows.
[02:37] <urlin2u> Flynsarmy, not sure in detail really, I have a script for compiz I use on every install, and just use that.
[02:37] <lauratika> it stays at login screen using 11.10
[02:37] <reisio> daniel__1: really what other distro? :p
[02:37] <cinch123> Triumph: it will fail due to dependencies, so run sudo apt-get -f install after.
[02:37] <TriumphOfDeath> reisio: thks a lot :D
[02:37] <Stupendoussteve> TriumphOfDeath: The instuctions cinch123 gave should work. Software Center sees them as being for a different release, and won't work
[02:37] <bim33> hola
[02:37] <bim33> tengo un problema: reciń acepté la actualizacion de 10.10 a la nueva, no sé se es 11...y a medio proceso falló no internet, si no mi ordenador no cogia señal , y me dio errores en la instalación, mandé un archivo de errores como decia el error, pero claro al no tener señal , no pude...¿que puedo hacer para saber si me comp está bien, o acabar de instalarle lo q le falta? ...gracias
[02:37] <bazhang> !es | bim33
[02:38] <reisio> TriumphOfDeath: google earth is in Ubuntu repos as well
[02:38] <Dougie187> TriumphOfDeath: I got google chrome to install using the deb. I believe it was something with a missing dependency.
[02:38] <TriumphOfDeath> cinch123 & Stupendoussteve: ¬¬ i dont see who talk to me.. thks u 2 :D
[02:39] <Dougie187> for some reason it didn't find it when I used dpkg or software center to try and install it
[02:39] <TriumphOfDeath> yup
[02:39] <xangua> reisio: TriumphOfDeath a package to make a deb of google earth is, but not google earth as an app
[02:39] <xhero35> hi, any news about REAL gnome classic in 11.10? I hate new interface.
[02:39] <reisio> xangua: semantics
[02:39] <Dougie187> But if you install the deps it should install.
[02:39] <troii> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[02:39] <lauratika> reisio: any ideas?
[02:39] <xangua> !gnome2 | xhero35
[02:39] <bazhang> !notunity | xhero35
[02:39] <TriumphOfDeath> its ok
[02:39] <xangua> troii: close software center/synaptic
[02:40] <reisio> lauratika: you're sure this account exists?
[02:40] <bazhang> troii, close other instances of apt
[02:40] <troii> ok how do i do that?
[02:40] <troii> no idea, i just installed it ..
[02:40] <reisio> troii: software center
[02:40] <reisio> troii: close it
[02:40] <bazhang> troii, software center. close it.
[02:40] <daniel__1> reisio: I've had similar, albeit not that serious, issues with debian. Very big problems with version upgrades in slackware(surprise:) and of course arch.
[02:40] <reisio> any package manager is going to use dpkg deep down
[02:41] <lauratika> sure if i restart the pc and login into that account it works normal
[02:41] <Satanaa> btw what is "Online accounts" ?
[02:41] <troii> seriously where do i find that?
[02:41] <reisio> lauratika: so the problem is only after having logged in as... 'admin'?
[02:41] <hipo> hello my unity side bar doesnt come out when i have a window open all the way
[02:41] <reisio> troii: Software Center?  It's a GUI
[02:41] <xhero35> thx guys
[02:42] <TriumphOfDeath> Guys: it works, there is something wrong with the new uSC?
[02:42] <TriumphOfDeath> thks!
[02:42] <lauratika> reisio: yes
[02:42] <troii> i closed the install terminal
[02:42] <Stupendoussteve> TriumphOfDeath: Nothing wrong, Google's packages are just out of date
[02:42] <bazhang> TriumphOfDeath, fomr google chrome? more likely a google issue
[02:42] <lauratika> if i try with guest account to admin account no prob either
[02:42] <suyanxi> hello
[02:42] <troii> GUi but where can i find it?>
[02:42] <TriumphOfDeath> indeed, i see
[02:42] <reisio> lauratika: weird
[02:42] <Dougie187> but chrome installs.
[02:42] <reisio> troii: GUIs are displayed in windows...
[02:42] <TriumphOfDeath> anyway thank you
[02:43] <Dougie187> I think the deps just aren't read correctly.
[02:43] <Dougie187> something like that
[02:43] <Dougie187> or written correctly? ionno
[02:43] <troii> ah yes
[02:43] <troii> Software Centre
[02:43] <purpleyuan> Hey all. I'm having some issues with unity. When I start unity (or type --unity replace) it gives an error: "unity-panel-service: no process found"
[02:43] <Dougie187> maybe something changed with the multi-arch stuff
[02:43]  * reisio headdesks
[02:44] <SetiAmon> is there a way to go back to true Gnome2 NOT failsafe?
[02:44] <bkovacs> I have a Dell SP2208WFP monitor and I cannot get my webcam to work with Ubuntu 11.10. Any ideas?
[02:44] <daniel__1> reisio: but anyways, I don't want to get into that kind of argument with you. I'm impressed of how you help people in this channel, keep up the good work.
[02:44] <lauratika> reisio: i know... and this happen after upgrading to 11.10
[02:44] <Stupendoussteve> SetiAmon: Use Natty
[02:44] <Stupendoussteve> Or get used to xfce
[02:44] <reisio> SetiAmon: not without sentencing yourself to unsupported software
[02:45] <troii> reisio im there, Sofware CEntre, what can i close? there are accessories and other stuf.f.
[02:45] <reisio> SetiAmon: on the other hand you can absolutely make GNOME 3 work just like GNOME 2
[02:45] <SetiAmon> Yeah i might as well go back to Natty.
[02:45] <UbuntuBrandon> Hello, all. Anyone in here use GNOME Shell enough to try and help me out?
[02:45] <reisio> troii: you have to close Software Center to use another dpkg frontend, like apt-get or synaptic or aptitude
[02:45] <Dougie187> SetiAmon: well, next LTS is going to be the same as 11.10.
[02:45] <exiff> or lucid
[02:45] <Dougie187> You could try Gnome shell.
[02:45] <SetiAmon> I have other problems.my Sound doesn't work in 11.10.I mean pulse audio is all static/distortions like in every distro which is why i use oss4 which now doesn't work in 11.10.
[02:46] <sxlan3> bandon use old version for gnome...
[02:46] <SetiAmon> btw all the SOUND faqs are obsolete and wouldn't help anyone
[02:46] <purpleyuan> The top panel and the side panel for unity don't show at all.
[02:46] <urlin2u> Dougie187, 6 months from now how would we know?
[02:46] <troii> i still get the same error
[02:46] <SetiAmon> if anyone knows how to fix static/echoing/disortion with pulseaudio/alsa please do
[02:46] <reisio> urlin2u: GNOME 2 development is over regardless of Ubuntu decisions
[02:46] <SoulShadow> so..ubuntu doesn't like spdif does it?
[02:46] <SetiAmon> I mean please help
[02:46] <Dougie187> urlin2u: well, gnome3 abandonded failsafe gnome didn't they? So gnome 3 won't have that in 6 months regardless. And it's not like canoncial will abandon unity within the next 6 months.
[02:47] <reisio> troii: trying to do what?
[02:47] <UbuntuBrandon> I'm only having trouble with getting extensions to run in Gnome Shell
[02:47] <reisio> SoulShadow: should work
[02:47] <troii> apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:47] <gadgetdevil> Hello, I was wondering how Certificate Revocation Lists work in Ubuntu. If a major certificate provider like Verisign decides to revoke a cert, how does Ubuntu know not to trust that cert?
[02:47] <urlin2u> reisi, okay not sure why you share this with me.
[02:47] <Stupendoussteve> gadgetdevil: Probably an update to ca-certificates
[02:47] <reisio> SoulShadow: might be listed as IEC #something in alsamixer
[02:47] <SoulShadow> reisio, well i'm on a messed up version of 10.04, that might have something to do with it, i'm updating to 10.10 and then 11.04 and then 11.10 (going to be along night, and yes i know i should just blow it away and go fresh)
[02:47] <sxlan3> wht kind of problems?.....and what distributiion do u use?...
[02:47] <bkovacs> I tried guvcvideo, cheese, and webcam on Dell SP2208WFP on 11.10 doesn't work
[02:48] <reisio> SoulShadow: no you should update
[02:48] <bkovacs> Cannot detect device.
[02:48] <spotter> is there any way to get a real gnome classic environment in 10.10?  I can start it, but its not exactly what I'd consider "classic"
[02:48] <sgs2_usr> any can tell me how to place the X-Chat to the envelop icon in Ubuntu 11.10?
[02:48] <troii> reisio im trying apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:48] <reisio> SoulShadow: and if updating doesn't work you should find another distro :p
[02:48] <Dougie187> spotter: in 11.10 no you can't.
[02:48] <lauratika> reisio: so no ideas
[02:48] <SoulShadow> reisio, i've always been told fresh is >> updating
[02:48] <reisio> troii: okay, did you close Software Center's window?
[02:48] <spotter> I meant 11.10 right
[02:48] <Dougie187> spotter: your best bet if you want a "classic" feel is to change to another DM
[02:48] <urlin2u> Dougie187, I think the failsafe was removed by canonical.
[02:48] <gadgetdevil> SetiAmon: What I do is go to Sound Preferences > Hardware > Profile >  and select another audio device temporarily, then after waiting a second, I switch back to my original sound device, it usually gets rid of the problem
[02:48] <spotter> Dougie187, ugh, I guess I can try xfce
[02:48] <Dougie187> urlin2u: no it was gnome who removed it.
[02:49] <UbuntuBrandon> sxlan3 if you're talking to me, I'm on 11.10 now, and I just can't get the extensions to come up. I have them all in the correct places, I'm not a complete noob, lol. And I've set the Metadata to shell version 3.2.0
[02:49] <reisio> SoulShadow: maybe that's how Ubuntu people roll, every other distro just updates
[02:49] <SetiAmon> I've tried that.doesn't work no matter what profile i try
[02:49] <spotter> also 11.10 seemed to kill my networking in many respects
[02:49] <spotter> lost all my saved passwords in network manager
[02:49] <SoulShadow> we'll find out once i get up to 11.10, going to be a very long night though
[02:49] <Dougie187> urlin2u: Gnome abandoned  failsafe gnome, aka gnome 2. Their new gnome, only has gnome shell.
[02:49] <SoulShadow> since i can't go 10.04 -> 11.10 in one shot
[02:49] <spotter> and for some reason didn't load iwlagn on startup
[02:49] <spotter> had to insmod that manually
[02:49] <troii> reisio yes
[02:50] <Dougie187> spotter: is it in any blacklist file?
[02:50] <reisio> SoulShadow: :/
[02:50] <reisio> troii: okay is synaptic closed?
[02:50] <reisio> troii: is aptitude closed?
[02:50] <urlin2u> Dougie187, no matter though, my point being is it is 6 months from now kinda a moot topic at least to me. :D
[02:50] <spotter> Dougie187, iwlagn?
[02:50] <spotter> unsure
[02:50] <spotter> it worked before
[02:50] <SetiAmon> if jaunty supported my new wifi i'd probably go back to that
[02:50] <reisio> troii: lsof /var/lib/dpkg
[02:50] <Stupendoussteve> SoulShadow: Updating would probably work, reinstall would probably be faster but you'd lost your customizations
[02:50] <SoulShadow> i'm a fan of 11.10's unity personally
[02:50] <Dougie187> urlin2u: My point is that in 6 months it's not going to change. Gnome got rid of failsafe, and canonical isn't abandoning unity within the next 6 months.
[02:50] <spotter> hmm
[02:50] <SoulShadow> it's much improved over to 11.04
[02:50] <reisio> SetiAmon: it can if you use an updated kernel/driver, but I wouldn't bother
[02:50] <greatman> Anybody are good at doing a dual-screen setup with the AMD catalyst CP?
[02:50] <reisio> SetiAmon: backwards is backwards
[02:50] <Dougie187> SoulShadow: I agree.
[02:50] <spotter> I see, when iwlagn loaded from modprobe, it gave this dmesg error
[02:50] <SoulShadow> Stupendoussteve, i don't have many customizations, main thing is my usb stick won't boot anymore
[02:50] <spotter> [  557.329786] iwlagn: Unknown parameter `11n_disable50'
[02:51] <troii> lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/andro/.gvfs       Output information may be incomplete
[02:51] <spotter> but when insmod, it didnt
[02:51] <SoulShadow> it works as a storage drive but it hangs when you boot from it
[02:51] <SoulShadow> so not much i can do there
[02:51] <urlin2u> SetiAmon, a end of life that makes no sense with 100's of linux OS's
[02:51] <spotter> it seemed modprobe is adding an option that it doesn't know about
[02:51] <reisio> troii: is that it?
[02:51] <Dougie187> spotter: maybe remove it in your modprobe?
[02:51] <troii> yes
[02:51] <spotter> Dougie187, how?
[02:51] <sxlan3> wht kinds of things do u have?...
[02:51] <spotter> modprobe.d I see
[02:52] <Dougie187> spotter: I don't really know what I'm talking about. just throwing out suggestions. But I would assume you need to tell it not to use the option when it loads the module.
[02:52] <sxlan3> sorry ....but i need to know everything
[02:52] <spotter> yes
[02:52] <spotter> fixed
[02:52] <spotter> /etc/modprobe.d/options.conf
[02:52] <Dougie187> ok cool
[02:53] <UbuntuBrandon> sxlan3 The Mediasplayers extension for my music controls, and the FP Murphy weather extension.
[02:53] <sgs2_usr> okay, i got a question, anyone here using RabbitVCS for Nautilus? and do you have luck getting it installed and display in Ubuntu 11.10?
[02:53] <sanu01> guys which flash should i install from software centre?
[02:53] <reisio> sanu01: installer
[02:53] <sanu01> thereis flash plugin and flash plugin 10
[02:54] <Dougie187> sanu01: adobe-flashplugin
[02:54] <Stupendoussteve> 10 is the old one
[02:54] <sanu01> oki
[02:54] <Dougie187> That one's 11 rc1
[02:54] <furyoshonen> Has anyone else's ubuntu been sluggish since installing 11.10?
[02:54] <tntc> furyoshonen: you talking about the slowness when you open dash?
[02:54] <sanu01> furyoshonen, 32 or 64 bit?
[02:54] <bkovacs> Any ideas getting Dell SP2208WFP monitor built in webcam to work.
[02:54] <gpeart> I need help to configure my touchpad side scrolling on ubuntu 11.10
[02:55] <slpoulin21> i need help connecting my droid to my laptop
[02:55] <furyoshonen> 64 bit... the internet has been very sluggish
[02:55] <slpoulin21> can someone please message me
[02:55] <sxlan3> did u try to say...codecs?
[02:55] <furyoshonen> download speeds 1/5th normal, uploads about 1/2
[02:55] <sanu01> furyoshonen, yea true i had to install 32 bit
[02:56] <troii> nice support
[02:56] <troii> ..
[02:56] <sanu01> furyoshonen, but i had other probs
[02:56] <slpoulin21> DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO MOVE PHOTOS FROM A PHONE TO A LAPTOP?
[02:56] <UbuntuBrandon> sxlan3 Nope, controls. It's like Unity's sound menu integration
[02:56] <sxlan3> ooh....
[02:56] <Dougie187> slpoulin21: what phone? You could look into bitpim
[02:56] <sanu01> furyoshonen, unity was sometimes chewing 100% of my processor
[02:57] <slpoulin21> wheres bitpim?
[02:57] <slpoulin21> is that a chatroom? its a droid incredible
[02:57] <reisio> slpoulin21: bluetooth would be the simplest way
[02:57] <slpoulin21> can i do that if the phone is not activated/
[02:57] <Dougie187> slpoulin21: bimpim is an app. But if it's a droid incredible you should be able to move it with ADB and usb
[02:58] <reisio> slpoulin21: activated?
[02:58] <Dougie187> Or even just mount it as external storage.
[02:58] <Stupendoussteve> You shouldn't even need ADB, just plug it in and it shows up as a drive
[02:58] <gpeart> anyone how to enable side scrolling on a laptop running Ubuntu 11.04 0r 11.10 ?
[02:58] <Satanaa> btw what is "Online accounts" ?
[02:58] <slpoulin21> when i try to mount it, my laptop rejects it and says it malfunctioned
[02:58] <Dougie187> slpoulin21: or if you don't want to do that, just email it to yourself from your phone.
[02:58] <furyoshonen> sanu01, no processor problems, just slow internet
[02:58] <zmbmartin> When I ran my updates it said it was going to remove fglrx-updates. I said ok and I got this error --> dpkg: error processing fglrx-updates (--purge):
[02:58] <zmbmartin> what does that mean?
[02:58] <UbuntuBrandon> sxlan3 Any idea why they wouldn't be loading?
[02:58] <slpoulin21> i have an iphone now, my droid is not activated with a number to it or anything
[02:59] <Dougie187> slpoulin21: but you should be able to connect to wifi
[02:59] <sxlan3> did you try to insert some extra icon for other programs?
[02:59] <Stupendoussteve> slpoulin21: Shouldn't make a difference. Are your photos on an sd card?
[02:59] <furyoshonen> sanu01, though memory usage is a little bit higher, probably just the new unity
[02:59] <slpoulin21> yes i think they are
[02:59] <slpoulin21> how can i email photos to myself if the phone is not activated?
[02:59] <Stupendoussteve> slpoulin21: Use wifi
[02:59] <Dougie187> slpoulin21: connect to wifi.
[03:00] <Dougie187> slpoulin21: or you can even upload it to dropbox or ubuntu one.
[03:00] <cinch123> I just had a kernel panic on 11.10. Is there a file or something I can submit as a bug report?
[03:00] <Dougie187> there are about a million ways to get your photos off your phone.
[03:00] <reisio> no, there are only 999,999 ways
[03:00] <reisio> Dougie187: newb :p
[03:00] <Dougie187> lol
[03:00] <Dougie187> Damn me and that assumed one extra way....
[03:01] <slpoulin21> so with wifi activated, i can send my pictures to my email?
[03:01] <Dougie187> slpoulin21: should be able to.
[03:01] <sanu01> furyoshonen, nah net was working fine
[03:02] <sxlan3> you have unity
[03:02] <sxlan3> or gnome?
[03:02] <sxlan3> try this
[03:03] <slpoulin21> does the iphone 4 have bluetooth?
[03:03] <troii> manz
[03:03] <troii> help me
[03:03] <troii> where do i find to close those tihngs?
[03:03] <reisio> slpoulin21: can't imagine it doesn't
[03:03] <troii> thing*
[03:03] <slpoulin21> lol true, i cant find it :P
[03:03] <dajhorn> zmbmartin: That is only part of the error message.  There should be more.  Can you pastebin the entire window?
[03:03] <slpoulin21> nvm lolo
[03:03] <gpeart> anyone how to enable side scrolling on a laptop running Ubuntu 11.04 0r 11.10 ?
[03:03] <hellslinger> does anyone now how to enable a global menu in gnome 3 on oneiric?
[03:04] <reisio> gpeart: for the touchpad, you mean?
[03:04] <slpoulin21> wow thanks for your help stupendoussteve :)
[03:04] <gpeart> yes
[03:04] <gpeart> reisio the side scrolling is not working on the touchpad
[03:05] <slpoulin21> my iphone isnt receiving them though
[03:05] <reisio> slpoulin21: put your cardigan on and try again
[03:05] <Dougie187> lol
[03:05] <zmbmartin> dajhorn: https://gist.github.com/1290453
[03:05] <Stupendoussteve> slpoulin21: Your iphone may not be getting emails instantly, tried closing the email client and then opening it again?
[03:05] <zmbmartin> what is the difference between fglrx and fglrx-updates?
[03:06] <Dougie187> slpoulin21: or check on your computer.
[03:06] <slpoulin21> i mean its rejecting bluetooth from my droid
[03:07] <dajhorn> zmbmartin: What does `dpkg -S /etc/init.d/atieventsd` say?   I think that the *-updates packages will track upstream releases.   The basic package won't change.
[03:07] <Zeelot> urlin2u: fixed it, I had to install r8168
[03:07] <Zeelot> apparently, this is an old issue
[03:07] <reisio> slpoulin21: did you pair?
[03:07] <slpoulin21> nvm got it :)
[03:08] <slpoulin21> i did pair them
[03:08] <Unknown_Monkey> hey can anyone help me find a good desktop recorder for ubuntu all the ones that I have tried wont let me record audio with them
[03:08] <slpoulin21> but they arent connecting
[03:08] <slpoulin21> hwo long do they take to connect
[03:08] <reisio> Unknown_Monkey: which did you try?
[03:08] <Stupendoussteve> slpoulin21: When all else fails, email them to your Ubuntu™ workstation
[03:08] <zmbmartin> dajhorn: fglrx-updates: /etc/init.d/atieventsd I did a fglrx-updates --reinstall  but is said it was removing fglrx?
[03:08] <Dougie187> slpoulin21: I think you should just email them.
[03:09] <slpoulin21> yeah i guess so..
[03:09] <slpoulin21> whats ubuntu?
[03:09] <Dougie187> It's going to be way less hassle.
[03:09] <Dougie187> slpoulin21: www.ubuntu.com
[03:09] <Stupendoussteve> slpoulin21: The operating system that this channel is designed to support
[03:09] <zoclo> hi
[03:09] <reisio> you've never used bluetooth on a smartphone? :p
[03:09] <dajhorn> zmbmartin: Okay, try `apt-get -f install` and then `dpkg --purge fglrx-updates`.
[03:10] <Unknown_Monkey> reisio: recordmydesktop
[03:10] <zoclo> i have a problem startin ubuntu 11.10, can anyone help me
[03:10] <zoclo> ?
[03:10] <Stupendoussteve> zoclo: What is the problem, then we'll know
[03:10] <slpoulin21> what about bump?
[03:10] <zmbmartin> dajhorn: do I need to reinstall fglrx then because it said it removed it.
[03:11] <slpoulin21> ive not used bluetooth
[03:11] <zoclo> after i did the update from 11.04 to 11.10 and after the reboot, i have only a black screen
[03:11] <slpoulin21> what is it eeven for? i sound like a grannie lol
[03:11] <Shirakawasuna> can anyone confirm that chrome is giving delays/cpu spikes when opening/closing tabs?
[03:11] <reisio> slpoulin21: it's hardware agnostic wireless transferring
[03:11] <Unknown_Monkey> reisio: and some others i dont remember the names I just find this one is it any good its called recorditknow
[03:11] <reisio> slpoulin21: data, media, audio, video, etc.
[03:11] <dajhorn> zmbmartin: Yes, you probably want one of fglrx or fglrx-updates.
[03:12] <zmbmartin> dajhorn: what is the difference?
[03:12] <zoclo> and says that apache dont find network
[03:12] <wers> oneiric seems to use nouveu for NVIDIA by default. it doesnt even suggest the nvidia driver with Jockey. who knows the package name for MacBook (nvidia 320M)'s driver?
[03:12] <slpoulin21> so how do i find ubuurx or whatever it was i was told about?
[03:12] <slpoulin21> lol
[03:12] <zoclo> and has to wait 60 more seconds
[03:12] <slpoulin21>  ubuntu*
[03:12] <Stupendoussteve> slpoulin21: www.ubuntu.com
[03:12] <Flynsarmy> Anyone know how to get the old update notifier behaviour back in 11.10?
[03:13] <yeats> !ubuntu | slpoulin21
[03:13] <zoclo> any one speak spanish here?
[03:13] <zoclo> ??????
[03:13] <zoclo> ????
[03:13] <Stanley00> Flynsarmy: old behaviour? like what? I think it's the same
[03:13] <yeats> !es | zoclo
[03:13] <urlin2u> zoclo, it is a english channel
[03:14] <slpoulin21> what is ubuntu?
[03:14] <slpoulin21> like icloud?
[03:14] <Stupendoussteve> slpoulin21: It is an operating system for a computer
[03:14] <slpoulin21> so should i download that?
[03:14] <yeats> slpoulin21: read the message from ubottu - then look at the website (if you're being serious)
[03:14] <Stanley00> slpoulin21: please read read what ubottu said above...
[03:14] <crimscx> anyone play supertux
[03:14] <SolarisBoy> crimscx: yep =)
[03:14] <slpoulin21> ubottu is speaking in spanish...i cant read that
[03:14] <Flynsarmy> Stanley00: in 10.10 and earlier, an update icon would appear in system tray. it'd be red if there were critical updates. in 11.04 and later, the update manager stupidly starts up in the background so it's much harder to notice. you used to be able to return to the old behaviour by adding /apps/update-manager/auto_launch=false in gconf-editor but that no longer works in 11.10
[03:15] <Stupendoussteve> slpoulin21: If you wish. If you really want iphone/apple support you might try ##mac
[03:15] <crimscx> how come on the unity bar it doesent have an icon
[03:16] <Stanley00> Flynsarmy: ah, I see. Sorry, but I afraid that's out of my ability.
[03:16] <CodeWar> 11.10 GCC 4.6.1 theres some massive regression in the default GCC /GLIBC that you guys are using
[03:16] <CodeWar> tons of arguments don't work .. I had to locally compile 4.6.1 to avoid it .. not sure if anybody is aware or looking into it
[03:17] <yeats> !bugs | CodeWar
[03:17] <nhr> Hey folks, upgraded to 11.10 today and firefox seems be little broken. It works, but differently
[03:17] <Satanaa> nhr how so?
[03:17] <Guest31775> Anyone have any luck with getting a linksys AE2500 wireless adapter to work with Ubuntu 11.04 or 11.10?
[03:17] <nhr> e.g. back button is always disabled, no hand cursor when hovering over the links
[03:18] <Satanaa> hmm
[03:18] <yeats> nhr: try creating a new user, log in as the user, then see if firefox acts the same
[03:18] <nhr> Clicking the link - at least the ones I know for sure, does work, so ff knows it's link
[03:19] <nhr> Ok, will try that, backbutton is most interesting
[03:20] <yeats> nhr: alternatively, move/rename your ~/.mozilla directory and open firefox
[03:20] <nhr> You suspect something bad in my profile?
[03:20] <Guest31775> Anyone have any luck with getting a linksys AE2500 wireless adapter to work with Ubuntu 11.04 or 11.10?
[03:20] <yeats> nhr: just ruling out possiblilities
[03:21] <hicham> i installed cairo dock on ubuntu 11.04 and when i try to restart my laptop or log out i dont find it in my screen i need to click on cairo dock to work again.is there anyway to keep it on my screen?
[03:21] <zoclo> join #ubuntu-es
[03:21] <zoclo> dfdf
[03:21] <nhr> yeats: Your hint helped. Its normal again
[03:21] <yeats> zoclo: try '/join #ubuntu-es'
[03:21] <yeats> nhr: great
[03:21] <zoclo> ok
[03:21] <zoclo> thnk
[03:22] <nhr> Thanks for the pointer - would have never thought of deleting my profile
[03:22] <osmosis> will gnome-shell and unity merge in the future?
[03:22] <Satanaa> i hope not hehe
[03:22] <yeats> osmosis: almost certainly not
[03:22] <osmosis> does anyone prefer gnome-shell over unity?
[03:22] <osmosis> unity seems like its going the right direction to me. This is the first time ive used it.
[03:23] <johnjohn101> osmosis, i like unity better
[03:23] <yeats> !poll
[03:23] <Satanaa> unity might, ubuntu tho? hehe, should have waited 6 release more with unity
[03:23] <CodeWar> gnome old was good but b/w shell and unity I d choose the latter
[03:23] <reisio> osmosis: I prefer twm
[03:24] <CodeWar> I still don't know how to make ALT-TAB only choose windows from my own desktop, does anybody know?
[03:24] <theDUBBER> i see this: www.thedubber.altervista.org
[03:24] <kensum> I thought unity used the gnome shell.
[03:25] <bluMyst> I need some help. I just installed 11.10 and when I try to log in it either goes back to the login screen or freezes, forcing me to reboot depending on who I try to log in as. What's going on and how do I fix it?
[03:25] <Geoffrey2> I'm trying to print out some web pages, and it looks like there may be one font that just won't work....instead of the letters being properly spaced, they spread out across the page....the page displays fine in the browser, but either printing or saving to file causes the same result...I installed the latest hplip, with no change
[03:25] <yeats> kensum: Unity is a "shell" for GNOME but is not the same as GNOME shell
[03:26] <reisio> Geoffrey2: change the font
[03:26] <yeats> bluMyst: you might try moving/renaming your /home/<yourusername> directory and logging in again
[03:26] <Geoffrey2> how do I do that in firefox?
[03:27] <mcellius> kensum: yeah, it's confusing.  In Ubuntu there are two shells for Gnome: Unity and Gnome Shell.
[03:27] <Stupendoussteve> Geoffrey2: Tried printing to a PDF?
[03:27] <bluMyst> yeats: I'll try that, but I'm going to have to reboot this PC to do it since I'm live booting. I'll be back if it doesn't work. Thanks!
[03:27] <Geoffrey2> Stupendoussteve, yep, I tried the Print To File option in CUPS, created a PDF, same result
[03:27] <yeats> bluMyst: sure