[00:00] <Jagst3r15> anyone know why a lot of the programs in the software center are out of date?
[00:00] <Mofro> Jagst3r15, most probably because they're out of date in the repos
[00:00] <domino14> what does . do?
[00:00] <init[dot]d> Jagst3r15, whats the error?
[00:00] <domino14> this script tells me ot do . ./vars
[00:00] <domino14> what is . ?
[00:00] <i7c> rwb: is it selected as fallback input?
[00:00] <init[dot]d> domino14, it turns a girl into a woman :)
[00:00] <Jagst3r15> init[dot]d like skype, Geany, etc. are not current versions
[00:01] <init[dot]d> Jagst3r15, those packages are usually help at other repos
[00:01] <rwb> no, I shut that off.  There is mic1 and mic2 however, I have a thinkpad with only one mic...
[00:01] <init[dot]d> build them from source for best results
[00:01] <i7c> domino14: . is the current directory. ./xyz runs an executable
[00:01] <IdleOne> init[dot]d: those sort of comments are not welcome in Ubuntu irc channels.
[00:01] <Jagst3r15> init[dot]d wat u mean?
[00:02] <init[dot]d> domino14, can you paste the whole message into a pastebin?
[00:02] <elspuddy> is there a build of unbuntu for notebooks ? or dose the desktop one run o.k on it ?
[00:02] <init[dot]d> Jagst3r15, look on google for those packages not in synaptic
[00:02] <i7c> rwb: how do you notice it doesn't work? only because it doesn't show any sound in pavucontrol?
[00:02] <domino14> vars is not an exectuable
[00:03] <init[dot]d> elspuddy, it really depends on the notebook
[00:03] <domino14> if i do . ./vars it says NOTE: If you run ./clean-all, I will be doing a rm -rf on /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/2.0/keys
[00:03] <i7c> domino14: setting up openvpn huh ;)
[00:03] <Jagst3r15> why dont they regulate the packages more init[dot]d?
[00:03] <init[dot]d> domino14, what are you trying to set up?
[00:03] <domino14> i7c: yep, and i have no idea what . is
[00:03] <rwb> the vu control shows nothing, and when I do a "test call" in skype I get no audio.
[00:03] <domino14> openvpn
[00:03] <SkippersBoss> rwb,the other mic would be the jack (external)
[00:03] <init[dot]d> Jagst3r15, probably too busy with the next distro
[00:04] <i7c> domino14: ./vars runs the vars script. ok it's not an executable but it is used to run stuff
[00:04] <domino14> what is the point of the . at first?
[00:04] <init[dot]d> and are you grabbing openvpn from the apt-get?
[00:04] <elspuddy> init[dot]d, its a freedom notebook, 2008
[00:04] <SkippersBoss> what skype version are you using and which ubuntu version
[00:04] <domino14> init[dot]d: correct, i got openvpn from apt-get
[00:05] <init[dot]d> elspuddy, depends on archiatype, hardware, bios etc...
[00:05] <init[dot]d> try loading 10.10 on it
[00:05] <rwb> I'm trying lots of combinations... There should be a VU on each choice in the Pulse control, and I can't get it to move.  Actuall this is now happening on both my laptops (thinkpads)
[00:05]  * SkippersBoss has had his share of PA problems in combination with skype
[00:05] <init[dot]d> domino14, so after it added openvpn what then? Why are you trying to run a script?
[00:05] <i7c> rwb: is it turned on in the alsamixer?
[00:06] <elspuddy> init[dot]d, : so saying its an intell  atom , h2 bios dose not help ?
[00:06] <domino14> i'm following this: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/opensource/how-to-set-up-an-openvpn-server/1873 -- im not sure how to set up the openvpn server certificates and whtever
[00:06] <i7c> init[dot]d: it is part of the setup. you need to create certificates. the script is used to do this
[00:06]  * elspuddy got to grab 10/10
[00:06] <init[dot]d> i7c, yah I know but need to find out where domino14  is at so can tell them what the next step is
[00:07] <domino14> i'm just editing the vars directory
[00:07] <domino14> err file
[00:07] <init[dot]d> the /var?
[00:07] <rwb> Ahh, I don't see an alsa mixer anywhere at all...
[00:08] <i7c> domino14: . represents the current directory... i won't tell it again, tho :)
[00:08] <rwb> Is there a way to just kill pulse audio altogether and just use something like jack?
[00:08] <i7c> rwb: :D open terminal and type alsamixer
[00:08] <domino14> so . ./vars doesn't make sense
[00:08] <init[dot]d> domino14, your at the step $vim vars?
[00:08] <i7c> domino14: why not? it's the path to the script that is supposed to be run
[00:09] <rwb> OK in command, alsa mic looks like it's off...
[00:09] <i7c> rwb: turn it on ;)
[00:09] <init[dot]d> easy fix
[00:09] <i7c> domino14: http://linux.about.com/od/linux101/l/blnewbie3_1_3.htm
[00:09] <init[dot]d> :)
[00:09] <rwb> turning on... testing...
[00:10] <domino14> init[dot]d: yes
[00:10] <domino14> well now i just created the build-key-server
[00:10] <i7c> domino14: hope that link satisfies you
[00:10] <domino14> sure
[00:10] <evie_hammond> test
[00:10] <sarsaeol> anyone have any idea how i can make sure a usb3 port is recognized as usb3 and not usb2 or earlier?
[00:10] <init[dot]d> domino14, are you in the directory /etc/openvpn/easy-rsa/?
[00:10] <sarsaeol> currently recognized as usb2
[00:10] <init[dot]d> sarsaeol, lsusb
[00:11] <sarsaeol> init[dot]d: i have done that
[00:11] <init[dot]d> oh
[00:11] <sarsaeol> init[dot]d: it only lists usb2 or 1.1
[00:11] <domino14> init[dot]d: yes. i just build-key client1
[00:11] <init[dot]d> yeah sorry
[00:11] <i7c> rwb: and?
[00:11] <rwb> still nothing......
[00:11] <init[dot]d> domino14, ok now whats the next step?
[00:11] <domino14> building dh
[00:12] <JenniferB2> I am at the " select and install software " step on the installation .. but it failes at the end ... saying that step failed
[00:12] <i7c> rwb: you just increased the volume or you also removed the mute? ;)
[00:12] <JenniferB2> I only had desktop environment checked and standard utilities
[00:12] <init[dot]d> domino14, ok go for it
[00:12] <rwb> ahh, ok m testing again...
[00:12] <greg1979> test
[00:12] <WeThePeople> hi
[00:12] <i7c> rwb: you can recog. muted devices by the MM on the bottom
[00:12] <Nicekiwi> help, theres a proccess that refuses to be killed!
[00:12] <i7c> greg1979: your test was successful
[00:13] <Nicekiwi> a program has hung and i cant kill it
[00:13] <Jagst3r15> init[dot]d how come things like FireFox are up to date though? Does mozilla maintain the repo for it?
[00:13] <greg1979> any ideas on why xchat isn't letting me join #django?  I hit join channel and nothing happens
[00:13] <init[dot]d> Jagst3r15, each package has its own repos / devs
[00:13] <i7c> Nicekiwi: try kill -9 <PID>
[00:13] <Krywk> Hey people, I have a question.
[00:14] <Nicekiwi> i7c: dosnt work, says the PID dosnt exist
[00:14] <Krywk> More like a problem instead.
[00:14] <rwb> when I opened pulse and selected mic 1, the vu moved for a second, then froze....
[00:14] <Nicekiwi> although...
[00:14] <Krywk> This is my problem:
[00:14] <Nicekiwi> i7c: nope, dosnt work
[00:14] <i7c> Nicekiwi: find out about the pid with    ps -fA | grep -i "PROCESSNAME"
[00:14] <Krywk> You see, I'm trying to run a .NET Framework 4 app with Mono 2.10. Thing is, it needs sqlite.
[00:14] <Krywk> I installed sqlite.
[00:15] <Krywk> Nonetheless, the app does not work.
[00:15] <Krywk> It starts, but then fails.
[00:15] <init[dot]d> JenniferB2, whats it doing now?
[00:15] <i7c> Nicekiwi: second column should be PID
[00:15] <init[dot]d> Krywk, whats the error?
[00:15] <Nicekiwi> i7c: yeah but it claims that ID dosnt exist
[00:15] <Krywk> Sec
[00:16] <Nicekiwi> the ID is 18020, bit it dosnt work :(
[00:16] <i7c> Nicekiwi: try killall <processname>
[00:16] <Krywk> Let me paste it on pastebin
[00:16] <Krywk> http://pastebin.com/McgNUyyD
[00:16] <Krywk> There.
[00:16] <Nicekiwi> i7c: the proccess dosnt have a name either
[00:17] <i7c> Nicekiwi: o.O
[00:17] <Nicekiwi> i7c: the username on it is 'root, -1'
[00:17] <Nicekiwi> brb
[00:17] <i7c> rwb: yes that's a bug. don't worry. it usually moves while you are recording
[00:17] <i7c> rwb: try your skype test again and watch volumecontrol while doing the test. it'll work. it always freezes when unused.
[00:18] <rwb> I'm still getting nothing on the skype test calls...
[00:18] <Nicekiwi> bck
[00:18] <rwb> I can even hear the slight noise of the mic coming through the speakers...
[00:18] <Krywk> Any hint on what's wrong, init[dot]d?
[00:18] <i7c> Nicekiwi: nothing unusual that a process runs as root. -1 seems to be a nice-value (process priority)
[00:19] <init[dot]d> Krywk, yeah its Diablo 3
[00:19] <init[dot]d> :P
[00:19] <Krywk> Yep
[00:19] <Nicekiwi> i7c: ive tried killing it and force killing it. nothing..
[00:19] <init[dot]d> did you configure sqlite to work with D3?
[00:19] <Krywk> Uh, no?
[00:19] <Krywk> How do I do that?
[00:19] <i7c> Nicekiwi: why do you even wanna kill it? can you see the process in htop or top? don't kill random system processes ;)
[00:19] <Nicekiwi> i7c: thwe windows is still there, CPU% is unkown,
[00:20] <init[dot]d> Krywk, sec
[00:20] <Nicekiwi> i7c: its a game that crashed
[00:20] <Krywk> Nicekiwi, what is your problem?
[00:20] <i7c> Nicekiwi: oh i see. what desktop are you using?
[00:20] <deepspeed_> #bodhilinux
[00:20] <deepspeed_> ..
[00:20] <deepspeed_> my bad
[00:21] <Krywk> Nicekiwi, what's the game that crashed? I might be able to help.
[00:21] <i7c> rwb: you can restart pulseaudio if you suspect it froze
[00:22] <rwb> OK on one of my laptops its working.......
[00:22] <mattswe> hello! can anyone help me confirm a bug? on 12.04 when I install libpostgis-java (http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/all/libpostgis-java/filelist) the file `/usr/share/java/postgis_debug.jar` never gets installed
[00:22] <SkippersBoss> rwb: or stop pulse from autospawning all together
[00:22] <rwb> too many settings.  I wish I could use only one audio engine...  can I uninstall pulse?
[00:23] <init[dot]d> Krywk, is sqlite running?
[00:23] <Krywk> Where do I check that?
[00:23] <init[dot]d> sudo /etc/init.d/sqlite restart
[00:24] <Krywk> Command not found "/etc/init.d/sqlite"
[00:24] <Krywk> ._.
[00:24] <i7c> rwb: that's not a good idea. btw skype only works with pulseaudio. and you wouldn't be able to play more than one sound a time
[00:24] <init[dot]d> lemme see what it is then
[00:24] <Nicekiwi> Krywk: SpringRTS
[00:24] <Krywk> ?
[00:24] <Krywk> SpringRTS...
[00:24] <Nicekiwi> i7c: uhm.. ubuntu, in the KDE DM
[00:24] <i7c> Krywk: the name of the game ;)
[00:24] <Jagst3r15> init[dot]d i see google has their own linux chrome download....is that auto updated by google?
[00:25] <Nicekiwi> Krywk: BA CHecken Defence
[00:25] <Krywk> Yeah, I know, I was referring to init[dot]d
[00:25] <Nicekiwi> Chicken*
[00:25] <SkippersBoss> i7c: rwb no if u disable pulse Skype still works
[00:25] <i7c> SkippersBoss: really? ok, i didn't know that.
[00:25] <Krywk> init[dot]d, let you see what is?
[00:26] <SkippersBoss> that's how i solved my mic problem in 11.10
[00:26] <init[dot]d> Krywk, are you following some tutorial for setting up D3?
[00:26] <Krywk> Nope
[00:26] <SkippersBoss> in 12.04 PA seems to be working for me
[00:26] <Krywk> I tried it because I thought it might work
[00:26] <init[dot]d> sqlite usually will need apache2, php, stuff like that
[00:26] <init[dot]d> you have to run the d3 as a server right?
[00:26] <Krywk> Yes.
[00:26] <Krywk> I mean, D3Emu.
[00:26] <rwb> This is crazy, I would like to use only one audio service like jack.  I can't keep track of alsa, pulse, and jack, and how the interact with each other...
[00:26] <i7c> rwb: have you tried restarting pulseaudio on the pc that is still not working? first restart PA then skype
[00:27] <i7c> rwb: read about it ;)
[00:27] <init[dot]d> so there is probably some sort of config file?
[00:27] <Krywk> D3Emu needs sqlite by default.
[00:27] <Krywk> But let me see.
[00:28] <Nicekiwi> i7c: guess i'll jus logout/in again.. :(
[00:28] <Krywk> I think it is D3Emu.exe.config?
[00:29] <i7c> Nicekiwi: that could be the easiest solution
[00:29] <init[dot]d> Krywk, not in Ubuntu
[00:30] <Krywk> Dinner time. We shall continue later.
[00:32] <rwb> Seems to be working now.  Thanks!!
[00:33] <i7c> rwb: i'm glad it works :)
[00:33] <harrrismrubin> how do i add java to ubuntu 12.04 using terminal
[00:34] <daniear> hi
[00:34] <rwb> Well, still not working on one of the laptops, and I can hear the audio going through the speakers but.... anyway, to many settings...
[00:34] <daniear> ive noticed in my logs that alot of packets are leaving my computer with ip source addy of <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:34] <daniear> what is it?
[00:35] <harrrismrubin> how do i add java
[00:35] <harrrismrubin> dr_jesus,  how do i add java through terminal
[00:35] <i7c> rwb: well yeh it is kind of confusing. but at the same time pretty powerful. afaik pulseaudio has an own channel somewhere here. i'm sure they know more.
[00:35] <alankila> harrrismrubin: 'sudo apt-get install openjdk-7-jdk'
[00:35] <init[dot]d> harrrismrubin, follow this link let me know if you get stuck https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[00:36] <i7c> daniear: afaik that is an DNS server.
[00:37] <rwb> I agree.  I have one system that is using a delta1010 for recording and I only use jack.  That system seems great. but for a laptop, I want a simple way to say "use setup for skype" or "use setup for aucacity" and the only fiddling should be on strings...
[00:37] <daniear> i dont have dns server running
[00:37] <init[dot]d> daniear, are you running a cisco server?
[00:38] <daniear> no
[00:38] <mattswe> is there any way I can inspect an `apt-get install` step by step? I think I found a bug
[00:38] <init[dot]d> daniear, ifconfig
[00:38] <init[dot]d> does it have anything about 3.x.x.x
[00:39] <harrrismrubin> does anyone have a galaxy tab
[00:39] <daniear> no
[00:39] <rwb> Thanks all! later...
[00:39] <daniear> my log says spoofed pkt in=eth0 out =... src = <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:40] <init[dot]d> spoofed?
[00:40] <daniear> got thousands of them logged
[00:40] <daniear> thats what it says
[00:40] <init[dot]d> are you running a packet analyzer?
[00:40] <init[dot]d> like etherape or wireshark
[00:40] <daniear> just letting iptables log things not running analyzer
[00:41] <init[dot]d> whats your netstat
[00:41] <init[dot]d> 3.x.x.x or does it show IPs
[00:42] <daniear> doesnt show 3.xxxx
[00:42] <init[dot]d> see anything from 255.x.x.x
[00:42] <daniear> no
[00:43] <daniear> do i have a virus why would i have spoofed packets leaving my computer
[00:43] <init[dot]d> nope
[00:43] <init[dot]d> whats type router do you have?
[00:43] <i7c> mattswe: you can use -s to simulate and not really install it?! doesn't help i guess
[00:44] <daniear> tp-link
[00:44] <daniear> this is a server not my home computer
[00:44] <spacedust> hi
[00:45] <mattswe> @i7c would you mind installing the package?
[00:45] <init[dot]d> daniear, usually an IP of <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS> or 10.x.x.x is the IP assighned to a virtual machine by a cisco router, so sometimes a Linksys router that is designed with the cisco firmware assigns the IPs on 1.x.x.x3.x.x.x10.x.x.x etc
[00:45] <spacedust> how well would an ati 5400 card work with an ubuntu installation ?
[00:45] <mattswe> @i7c and check if you have the same bug?
[00:45] <i7c> mattswe: depends on the size of the package and what this bug is ;)
[00:46] <mattswe> :)
[00:46] <mattswe> it's a tiny package and a tiny bug :)
[00:46] <mattswe> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/all/libpostgis-java/filelist
[00:46] <init[dot]d> daniear, it is usually showing many packets due to poor configurations
[00:46] <mattswe> is supposed to install `/usr/share/java/postgis.jar` ...but it doesn't
[00:47] <i7c> mattswe: i installed it. what now?
[00:47] <mattswe> i7c: `ls /usr/share/java/postgis.jar`
[00:48] <mattswe> and paste the response
[00:48] <i7c> mattswe: the file is there
[00:48] <mattswe> :(
[00:48] <mattswe> are you on 12.04?
[00:48] <i7c> mattswe: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  88108 Dec  5  2011 postgis.jar
[00:49] <Krywk> Back
[00:49] <mattswe> well shit.
[00:49] <Krywk> init[dot]d, Not in ubuntu?
[00:49] <mattswe> :)
[00:49] <i7c> spacedust: what exactly do you wanna know? if it works at all?
[00:49] <IdleOne> !language | mattswe
[00:49] <mattswe> @i7c what version of ubuntu? 12.04?
[00:49] <i7c> mattswe: yes.
[00:49] <spacedust> i7c: yes :) but ill found out soon :)
[00:49] <mattswe> huh. any idea why that might not be showing up for me?
[00:50] <lwizardl> in the "Indicator Applet" included with Ubuntu 10.04 lts. Is there a way to setup email account to just be a notifier for when you get a new msg. so you can open them in thunderbird ?
[00:50] <spacedust> i7c: id like it to work with vga + hdmi at the same time
[00:50] <ubuntu> nick SocialEvil
[00:50] <ubuntu> ups
[00:51] <i7c> spacedust: well sometimes there are driver issues. but if you get the card to work properly you will be able to do that.
[00:51] <spacedust> i7c: will precise pangolin work out of the box ?
[00:52] <Krywk> ...
[00:52] <Krywk> init[dot]d?
[00:52] <init[dot]d> Krywk, ?
[00:52] <i7c> spacedust: normally it should yes. i just heard about single cases where it didn't.
[00:53] <Krywk> init[dot]d, you said 'Not on ubuntu'. I don't understand.
[00:54] <init[dot]d> you dont run .exe files on Ubuntu
[00:54] <init[dot]d> you CAN with wine+other tweaking
[00:54] <init[dot]d> so a Unix configuration file is not going to be labeled .exe
[00:54] <spacedust> i7c: okay ill try it tomorrow and tell you about it
[00:55] <Krywk> init[dot]d, if I try to run D3Emu.exe in wine, it says I need Net Framework;version=4.0;
[00:55] <spacedust> i7c: does the iso work on a flash drive ?
[00:55] <init[dot]d> yupp
[00:55] <spacedust> i7c: if i use dd to write the iso to the flash ?
[00:55] <Krywk> Even though I have it.
[00:55] <init[dot]d> sounds like more a D3 problem not really an Ubuntu one
[00:55] <i7c> spacedust: ok. if you have a weaker video card you should think about an different desktop environment than unity.
[00:55] <i7c> spacedust: are you on windows right now?
[00:55] <init[dot]d> D3 is throwing the error
[00:55] <Krywk> D3 is not throwing the error, D3Emu is.
[00:56] <spacedust> i7c: no
[00:56] <Krywk> I searched for the problem, they said I should rename D3Emu.exe.config to something else and try again.
[00:56] <Krywk> I tried.
[00:56] <Krywk> A waaaaaaaaaay bigger error.
[00:56] <spacedust> i7c: i was thinking 5400 with 512mb of ram is not a weak card :P
[00:56] <spacedust> it is ?
[00:56] <NictraSavios> Does splitting your layout over multiple partitions (/, /home, /boot, /var, /usr and /tmp) have any real advantage for a home user vs the standard (/ and /boot) config. (I don't use my /home for data, I use a separate ntfs partition)
[00:56] <Ironsight> Krywk, #winehq
[00:57] <IronFart> gah, I need some help.
[00:57] <Krywk> Ironsight, I'm here because I'm trying to get something net40 related to work with mono, so no.
[00:57] <IronFart> I tried installing dropbox
[00:57] <i7c> spacedust: well. depends on the year :D it's not high-end anymore. but should be ok.
[00:57] <IronFart> and now it's locked up my synaptic package manager, when I run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[00:57] <IronFart> all that happens is it downloads dropbox to 99% and then hangs
[00:57] <rhizmoe> oh good, another X/compiz crash
[00:58] <i7c> spacedust: it's just that unity is a resource eater.
[00:58] <Krywk> ^This
[00:58] <bear_> Can anyone asist me in updating from 11.10 to 12.04? I tried the update manager, but no luck. Also, when trying from CD, no update option is available.
[00:59] <Aaron> spacedust: you can use unetbootin to transfer ,iso to flash
[00:59] <i7c> spacedust: oh and yes you can install from flashdrive. you find plenty of guides on the internet
[00:59] <IronFart> I've found unetbootin stuffs upthe flash drive for future usage... so uh, be sure it's one you don't particularly care about
[00:59] <Krywk> init[dot]d, so that's why I'm trying to run it with mono, since it throws a simpler error.
[00:59] <Ironsight> Unetbootin
[00:59] <bear_> I don't think installing from flash will change anything.
[00:59] <IronFart> so um, my problem with installing dropbox, how do i cancel it so i can at least get synaptic working
[01:00] <ejv> this doesn't answer your question, but for a major jump like that, I would personally just reinstall the OS, "fresh"
[01:00] <Ironsight> Never had an issue with unetbootin...   I'll see what I can find.
[01:02] <MonkeyDust> NictraSavios  linux has MultiSystem
[01:02] <MonkeyDust> NictraSavios  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[01:02] <Krywk> init[dot]d, I tried running it on Windows 7 x64 with mono 2.10 and sqlite, and it works fine.
[01:03] <Krywk> So I'm not sure why the error shows up here.
[01:03] <ratcheer> bear_: I'm really not sure, I have done clean installs the last few times.
[01:03] <init[dot]d> cool
[01:03] <init[dot]d> maybe check in #wine
[01:03] <Krywk> Let's see.
[01:04] <NictraSavios> MonkeyDust, ... You ... just made my life complete
[01:04] <IronFart> hey, I need some help cancelling this dropbox install, I can't access the synaptic package manager because it's holding everything up
[01:04] <NictraSavios> MonkeyDust, Thank you!! I have ever heart of that.
[01:05] <bear_> Anyone else know why 12.04 update isn't showing up for me? :/
[01:05] <MonkeyDust> NictraSavios  i've been using it for over a year now
[01:06] <alex369> Hi guys
[01:06] <IronFart> what do you want alex369!
[01:06] <NictraSavios> MonkeyDust, Heard* and, Wow, I've always hated to have to use a VM to use YUMI :P.
[01:07] <alex369> Do you know one channel for archlinux's support? I tried with archlinux and linux but nothing to do, i've problem on freenode for login. Can anyone help me?
[01:07] <NictraSavios> MonkeyDust, I run a pure Linux system with a VM for iTunes, Photoshop, Illustrator, etc.
[01:07] <NictraSavios> alex #archlinux .... Since your an arch user, RTFM. You could have googled that aha
[01:07] <Krywk> NictraSavios, iTunes = There are equivalents, Photoshop = Playonlinux, ADOBE = Playonlinux
[01:07] <NictraSavios> alex369, ^*
[01:08] <sarsaeol> alex369: google says #archlinux
[01:08] <Wally> How does one uhh remove "individual packages" using synaptic packagemanger.. EG: I'm trying to remove gnome games but it wants to remove gnome as well
[01:08] <i7c> NictraSavios: which VM software do you use?
[01:08] <NictraSavios> Krywk, iTunes, none as seamless for iPhone syncing. and CS6 dosen't work yet.
[01:08] <alex369> I tried with #archlinux but the login is necessary and i'm not able to login.
[01:09] <NictraSavios> i7c, Virtualbox, Never had an issue with it aha.
[01:09] <i7c> alex369: do you have an account? if not, get one ;)
[01:09] <Ironsight> Register a new nick then ;p
[01:09] <alex369> i7c: yes, but i can't connect, i don't know why.
[01:09] <NictraSavios> alex369, Google "make account on freenode". Major skill as an arch user is googlefu and wikifu.
[01:09] <alex369> Ironsight: oh my god, another account?
[01:09] <i7c> NictraSavios: photoshop does not work in the vm?
[01:09] <Ironsight> I have like 3
[01:10] <NictraSavios> i7c, Works fine :P
[01:10] <surface> screen -r irc
[01:10] <i7c> NictraSavios: ok good. i thought it should :D
[01:10] <domino14> where is my awesome vpn helper?
[01:10] <domino14> i think i've successfully connected to an openvpn server, on another machine, but ping <IP_ADDRESS> times out
[01:11] <NictraSavios> i7c, With 12GB of ram in this laptop, I can easliy devote 6-8 to the vm and everything runs smooth a waterslide.
[01:11] <NictraSavios> as a*
[01:11] <Krywk> as smooth as a*
[01:11] <i7c> lol
[01:12] <i7c> i have only 6GB but i think should be enough since ubuntu doesnt use anything of it :D
[01:12] <NictraSavios> Yeah.... If you've noticed my typing sucks? Getting used to this wireless keyboard -_-.
[01:12] <Krywk> Hahaha
[01:12] <i7c> on startup i have like 200MiB used. how nice is this. thanks to xfce tho. unity would eat RAM like windows.
[01:12] <Krywk> Anyone here experienced in Mono?
[01:13] <NictraSavios> i7c, I use Gnome 3. The only thing that I like about unity is the taskbar icon that integrates Mail, Chat, Social Networks and Feeds all into one nice menu.
[01:14] <NictraSavios> i7c, Its a ram eater but... Its a pretty ram eater P. Maybe I'll give Cinnamon a go in a week or so.
[01:15] <domino14> init[dot]d: hi
[01:15] <i7c> NictraSavios: :D yeh it's pretty indeed. but i can't take delays. those make me mad. and xfce is fast and with some confing and theming beautiful + highly usable
[01:15] <init[dot]d> domino14, ohai
[01:15] <ule> hi.. Why the version 12.04 server has changed the "dpkg-reconfigure console-setup" command? How can I change my keyboard map now?  Someone can help me to how to change my keyboard in version 12.04 using only CLI?
[01:16] <domino14> init[dot]d: so i got my openvpn server and client, and i believe i've connected the client to the server -- is ee this line Tue Jun 26 01:06:54 2012 Initialization Sequence Completed
[01:16] <domino14> but doing ping <IP_ADDRESS> times out
[01:16] <NictraSavios> i7c, No arguments here, it's a stable, spartan DE and those that like it, love it!
[01:16] <init[dot]d> domino14, thats a gateway IP
[01:16] <init[dot]d> whats the IP of the server?
[01:17] <domino14> i used the default server conf file that has this server <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:17] <i7c> NictraSavios: :). anyways i'm off to bed. see ya around.
[01:17] <domino14> the comments above it say The server will take <IP_ADDRESS> for itself,
[01:17] <NictraSavios> i7c, Night :P
[01:17] <domino14> # Each client will be able to reach the server # on <IP_ADDRESS>. Comment this line out if you are
[01:17] <NictraSavios> Does splitting your layout over multiple partitions (/, /home, /boot, /var, /usr and /tmp) have any real advantage for a home user vs the standard (/ and /boot) config. (I don't use my /home for data, I use a separate ntfs partition) ?
[01:18] <init[dot]d> ok ifconfig
[01:18] <domino14> ifconfig tun0 tells me inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  P-t-P:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[01:18] <domino14>  (on the client)
[01:18] <init[dot]d> is there already anything attached to that IP address?
[01:18] <th0r> NictraSavios, having a separate /home partition means when/if you reinstall your config files remain intact
[01:18] <domino14> ifconfig tun0 on the server tells me inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  P-t-P:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[01:19] <domino14> i don't think theres anything attached
[01:19] <ratcheer> NictraSavios: No, just /home like th0r said
[01:20] <init[dot]d> and a ping times out?
[01:20] <domino14> yeah they just all fail
[01:20] <NictraSavios> ratcheer, th0r So all that stuff about it being better to have a /var, /usr and /tmp dosen't apply for home use? No increased security gained?
[01:21] <efors> dd
[01:21] <init[dot]d> domino14, ok are you in the server or in a vm or what?
[01:21] <th0r> NictraSavios, I have run linux for a long time, and find that having / and /home is all I need
[01:21] <domino14> the server is a box on EC2, the client is a box on Rackspace
[01:22] <domino14> i guess by box i mean a virtual server
[01:22] <NictraSavios> th0r, Alright, thank you. I use luks encryption so I need a separate /boot. But otherwise, you advice helps a lot! aha
[01:22] <init[dot]d> ok and can you ssh into <IP_ADDRESS>?
[01:22] <NictraSavios> your*
[01:22] <ratcheer> NictraSavios: I also use a separate swap partition, but it is shared among all my Linux distros.
[01:23] <NictraSavios> ratcheer, I tend to use swap files since having them on the root means their already encrypted, no need to worry about unencrypted data being written to them on suspend to disk.
[01:24] <NictraSavios> ratcheer, I have Ubuntu Linux and Backtrack Linux installed. I keep windows 7 and windows 8 on a vm :P
[01:25] <PMMN> Hi!
[01:26] <domino14> the ssh commands just times out init[dot]d
[01:27] <init[dot]d> hm
[01:27] <init[dot]d> ping the <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:28] <Pinkamena_D> hello [i]again[/i], can anyone give me a havd with my split network thing? (im going to be back here ever night until it is solved)
[01:29] <rhizmoe> does show-desktop always clear ALL WORKSPACES?
[01:29] <Pinkamena_D> i need help routing traffic from transmission-daemon into a seperatc network interface
[01:29] <rhizmoe> Pinkamena_D: wtf BBCode?
[01:29] <Pinkamena_D> using iptables
[01:29] <IronFart> hey
[01:29] <IronFart> how do i cancel this dropbox install
[01:29] <rhizmoe> IronFart: ask dropbox
[01:29] <IronFart> it's hanging at 99% and until I figure out how to properly get rid of it
[01:29] <IronFart> I can't use the synaptic package manager
[01:29] <IronFart> or install anything else for that matter
[01:30] <Pinkamena_D> well i thought you guys would understand what it was supposed to look like from the code because irssi provides no real way to do it
[01:30] <Pinkamena_D> (or i guess irc protocol)
[01:30] <shadykhan> okay i need some help
[01:30] <rhizmoe> irc is a plain text medium
[01:30] <Pinkamena_D> ok
[01:30] <Krywk> IronFart, #dropbox
[01:30] <shadykhan> my ubuntu cursor is stuck in drag mode
[01:30] <Draxel> Hi guys! How to increase fan speed? My laptop is running hot, it even shut down it self. :/
[01:30] <shadykhan> and i cant click anything
[01:31] <init[dot]d> Pinkamena_D, welcome back
[01:31] <Pinkamena_D> yes, so i have to express my italics with plain text
[01:31] <Pinkamena_D> -_-
[01:31] <rhizmoe> oh /really/
[01:31] <Pinkamena_D> hmm
[01:31] <Pinkamena_D> ok i will remember that for the future
[01:31] <rhizmoe> *do that*
[01:31] <rhizmoe> oh, that's usually bold
[01:31] <Pinkamena_D> hello again etc/init.d
[01:32] <Pinkamena_D> can you explain your iptables suggestion a bit? (if you have time)
[01:32] <Draxel> how to control fan speed?
[01:32] <rhizmoe> i didn't have one
[01:32] <Pinkamena_D> i meant init.d
[01:32] <init[dot]d> Pinkamena_D, like?
[01:32] <Draxel> hey
[01:33] <Draxel> what's the temperature of your laptops running ubuntu 12.04?
[01:33] <shadykhan> so any idea with the stuck cursor?
[01:33] <Draxel> CPU temperature
[01:33] <Pinkamena_D> well, how does it sync with trnsmission? does the incoming traffic port spefici all traffic or just incoming? can you bind iptables to a pid instead of a port if not?
[01:33] <Draxel>  my CPU is at 80Celcius :/
[01:33] <haz3lnut> Draxel: that's freakin hot
[01:34] <haz3lnut> Draxel: check your cooling fan. it may be loose.
[01:34] <Draxel> haz3lnut and the cpu usage is 16%
[01:34] <init[dot]d> Pinkamena_D, it would be done by port
[01:34] <haz3lnut> or clogged with dust
[01:34] <Pinkamena_D> for the cursor try violently tapping all the keys on your keyboard and mouse
[01:34] <Draxel> haz3lnut it works fine on win7 so i think this is a software issue
[01:34] <Pinkamena_D> that usually works for me
[01:35] <Pinkamena_D> ok, so port
[01:35] <haz3lnut> Draxel: are you overclocked?
[01:35] <init[dot]d> and would look similar to this /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 -d <IP_ADDRESS> --dport 80 -j DNAT --to <IP_ADDRESS>:31337(your_port_here)
[01:35] <Pinkamena_D> their is no port specified in settings.json, but their is one in the program itself
[01:35] <Draxel> haz3lnut no. it's just a dell laptop with i3 cpu.
[01:35] <Pinkamena_D> however it only says "incoming"
[01:36] <Pinkamena_D> what is DPORT and the two addresses
[01:36] <haz3lnut> Draxel: 16% doesn;t seem high enough to cause all that heat.
[01:36] <Draxel> haz3lnut is there any way to manually increase fan speed on ubuntu?
[01:36] <Pinkamena_D> are they gateways or the ip of the interfaces or what
[01:37] <haz3lnut> Draxel: that, I don;t know
[01:37] <efors> what kernel is Ubuntu on now?
[01:37] <DoobieDoobie> 3.2
[01:37] <efors> thx
[01:37] <DoobieDoobie> np
[01:37] <efors> How do you see that?
[01:38] <DoobieDoobie> $ uname -r
[01:38] <Draxel> haz3lnut,  my laptop unexpectedly shut down while i was working with gimp. I think, the fan is not running as fast as needed
[01:38] <init[dot]d> Pinkamena_D, open a terminal and man iptables
[01:38] <init[dot]d> it gives a breakdown of all of it and how to do it
[01:39] <Pinkamena_D> i tried that once, it just broke everything
[01:39] <Pinkamena_D> however, if you believe it to be the best course of action, so be it
[01:40] <haz3lnut> Draxel: wish I could help you more.  It just seems unlikely it's software, and more likely you have too much dust in your machine.  Screwdriver and a vacuum usually helps with that.
[01:40] <DoobieDoobie> Draxel: Be careful with that vacuum hose, though.
[01:40] <Pinkamena_D> draxel, though not a global statement, all the laptops i have used are generally bad for things processor intensive
[01:40] <haz3lnut> lol
[01:40] <DoobieDoobie> ;)
[01:41] <haz3lnut> don;t suck up any capacitors!
[01:41] <DoobieDoobie> exactamundo!
[01:41] <Draxel> haz3lnut, Thanks for your help. I'll try to sort it out :)
[01:41] <Pinkamena_D> if clearing the dust does not help, though, you may try prying the heatsinks and applying some artic silver or something
[01:41] <shadykhan> My mouse is stuck in drag&drop mode is there a way to fix it without restarting?
[01:41] <Pinkamena_D> that helped greatly on one for me
[01:41] <Draxel> but it is commonly known that ubuntu makes pcs run hotter isn't it?
[01:42] <Pinkamena_D> not that i was aware of
[01:42] <DoobieDoobie> Me either.
[01:42] <haz3lnut> No
[01:42] <domino14> hey i got a question about openvpn.. the internet told me to set it in UDP mode but i really need all the packets for this operation (redis replication)
[01:42] <domino14> will openvpn be smart enough to not actually drop those packets?
[01:42] <DoobieDoobie> My laptop actually runs cooler on Ubuntu, of course YMMV.
[01:43] <Draxel> even battery life is lower on ubuntu even though no intensive applications are used
[01:43] <DoobieDoobie> Draxel: Compared to what?
[01:44] <Draxel> win7
[01:44] <Pinkamena_D> i do not think that is a global statement, but i suppose it is possible drivers for other operating systems may work better.
[01:44] <Pinkamena_D> in specific applications
[01:44] <DoobieDoobie> Honestly, it's hard to make a comparision without a lab-type setup.
[01:45] <DoobieDoobie> Each OS, configuration, installed software, are so different. Even on the same box.
[01:45] <Pinkamena_D> still, no matter what OS you decide to run, clean out the dust, replace the thermal paste if needed
[01:45] <Draxel> I had several laptops running both ubuntu and win7, and I noticed both hotter temperatures as well as shorter battery lives :) that's just my observation.
[01:45] <Pinkamena_D> maybe the fan itself want bad and runs slow, i have had thos heppen to my northbridge once
[01:45] <Draxel> Pinkamena I use relatively new laptop
[01:46] <Pinkamena_D> alright, np, just saying that has worked for me ...sometimes
[01:46] <Draxel> anyway, I suspect this is something to do with fan speed. I need to increase it ;)
[01:47] <haz3lnut> Draxel: you might want to research cpufrequtils. I have never used it, and others here might have som input, but it will allow you to have more control over your cpu speed, thus potentially reducing heat.
[01:47] <fwiss> Hi, #Ubuntu. I have a partition problem.
[01:47] <DoobieDoobie> ask away
[01:47] <Draxel> haz3lnut, thanks. i'll take a look at it
[01:48] <fwiss> For some reason, my extended partition won't increase in size (using GParted)
[01:48] <Draxel> cheers for your suggestions :) See you later guys
[01:48] <fwiss> I will be using the Live CD, so ignore the locks for now.
[01:48] <DoobieDoobie> l8r, Draxel
[01:48] <fwiss> Here's the layout:
[01:48] <fwiss> http://static.inky.ws/image/2237/image.jpg
[01:50] <moratinos> any body help me   with the livce cd for ubuntu
[01:50] <shadykhan> moratinos, what you need help me
[01:50] <shadykhan> i ment what you need haha
[01:51] <shadykhan> ive been trying to get help but no dice for me
[01:51] <moratinos> i just dont know how to do it  and i dont know  if the descktop version will work for my laptop
[01:51] <fwiss> Desktop version works on laptops
[01:51] <shadykhan> will work
[01:51] <fwiss> What laptop do you have
[01:52] <moratinos> acer
[01:52] <fwiss> Linux probably has support for it.
[01:52] <fwiss> How old>
[01:52] <fwiss> ?
[01:52] <shadykhan> it will work but you can wubi install it and see how it goes
[01:52] <haz3lnut> moratinos: if you know how to get to your bios, set it to boot from cd and go.
[01:52] <DoobieDoobie> I don't see anything wrong with your HDD, fswiss.
[01:52] <fwiss> moratinos, have you burned to live cd yet?
[01:52] <moratinos> i need to make live cd
[01:52] <moratinos> and dont know how
[01:52] <fwiss> Using Windows
[01:52] <shadykhan> ahh
[01:52] <fwiss> ?
[01:52] <init[dot]d> necronomicon?
[01:52] <metbsd> is it possible to wubi install other linux distros
[01:52] <fwiss> I use InfraRecorder.
[01:53] <shadykhan> MetaBot_, i dont think so
[01:53] <fwiss> For CDs
[01:53] <shadykhan> windows 7 has an iso burner
[01:53] <shadykhan> built in the OS
[01:53] <squishumz> what does the term 'kernal' mean/
[01:53] <fwiss> I don't think W7's built-in burner worked for me, though.
[01:53] <haz3lnut> shadykhan: really? they finally put that in the os?
[01:53] <fwiss> kernel is the center of the OS
[01:53] <shadykhan> yep
[01:53] <moratinos> im very bnew to all this  and i jst dont understand most of what you guys are saying lol
[01:54] <shadykhan> moratinos i would link you
[01:54] <DoobieDoobie> moratinos: Are you using Windows 7?
[01:54] <shadykhan> but i cant do anything cause my mouse is stuck in drag mode
[01:54] <moratinos> thank you
[01:54] <shadykhan> and i cant click on anything
[01:54] <fwiss> shadykhan
[01:54] <shadykhan> thats why im in here for help
[01:54] <DoobieDoobie> moratinos: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows7/Burn-a-CD-or-DVD-from-an-ISO-file
[01:54] <fwiss> talk to me, your mouse is stuck in drag?
[01:54] <shadykhan> yeah this happens atleast once a day to me
[01:54] <shadykhan> dragging something
[01:54] <fwiss> It happens to me
[01:54] <fwiss> too
[01:54] <shadykhan> and now my mouse icon changed to the dragging icon
[01:54] <fwiss> using Sandy Bridge, you?
[01:54] <haz3lnut> never happened to me
[01:54] <shadykhan> now i can easily restart
[01:55] <shadykhan> happens to me using Firefox
[01:55] <fwiss> Shadykhan, are you using sandy bridge?
[01:55] <shadykhan> no
[01:55] <fwiss> What chipset then?
[01:56] <fwiss> Because I get this problem too, except I'm not dragging anything, so it happens when I'm watching video and stuff, too,
[01:56] <shadykhan> ahh im on a amd chipset
[01:56] <fwiss> Anyway, GParted says I can't have overlapping partitions.
[01:56] <shadykhan> fwiss, so how do you fix it?
[01:56] <fwiss> I didn't.
[01:56] <shadykhan> well how do you solve it
[01:56] <fwiss> It still happens.
[01:56] <shadykhan> when it happens
[01:56] <shadykhan> restart?
[01:57] <fwiss> I switch to tty1
[01:57] <fwiss> and restart Xorg's process
[01:57] <fwiss> it doesn't happen more than once a day generally.
[01:57] <fwiss> I'm hoping it'll be fixed in 12.10
[01:57] <fwiss> if not
[01:57] <haz3lnut> right-alt/SysRq/K
[01:57] <fwiss> I'm going back to Windows.
[01:57] <Ranget> how can i buil a custome ubunto such as susestudio
[01:58] <bazhang> !remaster | Ranget
[01:58] <DoobieDoobie> fwiss: did you try downloading Ubuntu Rescue Remix, burning a liveCD, and running the testdisk tool?
[01:58] <fwiss> DoobieDoobie:
[01:59] <DoobieDoobie> huh?
[01:59] <fwiss> My disk works fine on evrything elese
[01:59] <fwiss> *else
[01:59] <Pinkamena_D> i have been reding the iptables thing an i am still lost.
[01:59] <fwiss> It just can't extend that partition
[02:00] <fwiss> I'm guessing it's because my /boot is inside the extended partition?
[02:00] <DoobieDoobie> fwiss: you might want to have a look at this. similar issue
[02:00] <DoobieDoobie> http://superuser.com/questions/275158/gparted-error-cant-have-overlapping-partitions
[02:01] <fwiss> Well, I purposefully unallocated that disk space
[02:01] <Ranget> thanks but that's not as easy as susestudio
[02:01] <fwiss> I took it from Windows 7's partition
[02:01] <DoobieDoobie> Ahh, I see. then you're probably right about the /boot dir
[02:01] <bazhang> Ranget, there is no such ubuntu equivalent
[02:01] <fwiss> and I want to add that free space to my extended partition.
[02:02] <fwiss> But even when I'm using Gparted live cd, it locks the same, just without locks.
[02:02] <Ranget> ok thanks
[02:03] <fwiss> If it were that the boot part was the prob, it would warn me, but let it continue.
[02:03] <fwiss> In this case, I simply can't increase the size of the ext. partition.
[02:05] <tomvolek> Hi all, I am looking for deploymnet tools, mostly  C++ code base and some Java to over 50 or so Ubuntu hosts .  Any thoughts ?
[02:06] <fwiss> Well, bye then.
[02:06] <DoobieDoobie> fwiss: can you provide the output of: fdisk -u ?
[02:06] <DoobieDoobie> fdisk -lu I mean
[02:07] <DoobieDoobie> Oh, he's gone.
[02:07] <Jagst3r15> any way to make backspace key work on browsers to go backa  page?
[02:07]  * WFPKHC wonders on into the channel
[02:07] <Jagst3r15> it works on windows
[02:07] <WFPKHC> Hello everyone....
[02:08] <WFPKHC> is there any really good documentation (i have searched lots of places and cannot find any) on linux partitions and how to make them when installing linux?
[02:09] <bazhang> !partition > WFPKHC
[02:09] <WFPKHC> thank you
[02:09] <WFPKHC> the link the bot gave me was a 404
[02:10] <WFPKHC> brb lunch\
[02:12] <DoobieDoobie> The doctor is in!
[02:12] <dr_willis> where?
[02:13] <Anxi80> is refit still required for installing ubuntu on an apple laptop?
[02:13] <DoobieDoobie> My wife is a PhD. she just entered the room. :\
[02:13] <bazhang> !ot | DoobieDoobie
[02:14] <dr_willis> !apple
[02:14] <dr_willis> hmm.
[02:14] <dr_willis> not the right factoid..
[02:14] <dr_willis> !mac
[02:15] <AcidRain2012> can anyone tell me why i had 38gig free space yesturday. now all of a sudden i have 0bytes. ?
[02:16] <AcidRain2012> this isnt the first time this has happened
[02:16] <AcidRain2012> with different disks too
[02:16] <AcidRain2012> it says my home folder is taking up 58gigs
[02:17] <AcidRain2012> but when i use disk analyzer. nothing in my home folder equals anywhere close to 58gigs at all
[02:17] <AcidRain2012> it may be maxing out at like 20megs lol
[02:17] <Anxi80> dr_willis, thanks but i've already gone through the wiki. It doesn't list my machine :(
[02:17] <percent20> I did something stupid and deleted nginx from my init.d is there a way to regenerate it?
[02:17] <Anxi80> and when it does, it only talks about a much older version of ubuntu
[02:17] <dr_willis> Anxi80:  what machine?
[02:18] <AcidRain2012> anyone ever experienced this before?
[02:18] <init[dot]d> anyone wanna work on a project with me? Python + Perl
[02:18] <enlace_quimico> this is really sad. i'm no longer in the admin group on  my desktop and i can't get to the recovery grub menu  because my computer boots to fast. lol. i just wanted  to make sure that shift or esc were the keys to get to  that menu.
[02:18] <enlace_quimico> before i have to live cd this mess
[02:18] <bazhang> init[dot]d, thats not on topic here
[02:19] <init[dot]d> bazhang, true
[02:19] <Anxi80> dr_willis, my machine is version 2.1 of the MacBook Pro
[02:19] <dr_willis> enlace_quimico: shift if grub is hidden
[02:19] <Anxi80> dr_willis, 64-bit cpu on a 32-bit chipset
[02:19] <enlace_quimico> dr_willis: thanks. i'm having first world problems over here.
[02:20] <AcidRain2012> gparted even says 68.9 gigs used space. 5.98 gigs free space
[02:20] <AcidRain2012> how did i lose all space overnight?
[02:20] <init[dot]d> AcidRain2012, did you install something recently?
[02:20] <init[dot]d> sometimes BIND9 will cause excessive memory issues when not configured correctly
[02:21] <AcidRain2012> init[dot]d: no i havent
[02:21] <AcidRain2012> init[dot]d: the issue is im not seeing where all of my space is being taken up
[02:21] <AcidRain2012> all files on my computer dont total 69 gigs according to disk analyzer
[02:21] <sicko> ahh guys can u help me, i installed ubuntu alongside windows xp but xp has dissapeared from the boot menu
[02:22] <init[dot]d> AcidRain2012, ps aux
[02:22] <init[dot]d> will list your processes
[02:22] <AcidRain2012> it says like... dude max 20megs taken
[02:22] <AcidRain2012> how do i tell by this process list if anything is using alot of m emory?
[02:23] <AcidRain2012> this has to do with disk space though... i dont see what processes have to do with it
[02:23] <dr_willis> are we talking memory... or hard drive space.....
[02:23] <dr_willis> ;)
[02:23] <AcidRain2012> hard disk space
[02:23] <AcidRain2012> lol. does anyone have on hand 68gig memory?
[02:23] <dr_willis> id start with a fsck from a live cd.
[02:24] <init[dot]d> AcidRain2012,  ps aux lists it like this root         1  0.0  0.0
[02:24] <sicko> umm hello
[02:24] <init[dot]d> the 0.0 will be your CPU and MEM%
[02:24] <dr_willis> AcidRain2012: in here.. possibility.
[02:24] <AcidRain2012> lol
[02:24] <init[dot]d> oh true
[02:24] <AcidRain2012> init[dot]d: how does this help? im talking disk space man
[02:24] <init[dot]d> my bad
[02:24] <dr_willis> ive seen huge log files befor..
[02:25] <sicko> apparently its something to do with something called grub
[02:25] <AcidRain2012> my log file is 1 meg
[02:25] <sicko> nvm ill talk to myself
[02:25] <dr_willis> !grub
[02:25] <dr_willis> !patience
[02:25] <WFPKHC> is there any really good documentation (i have searched lots of places and cannot find any) on linux partitions and how to make them when installing linux?
[02:25] <AcidRain2012> all i want to know is how is this possible?
[02:25] <WFPKHC> the link the bot gave me was a 404
[02:26] <zombifier> sicko: Just ask your question
[02:26] <AcidRain2012> how do i search google for something like "i had at LEAST 30gig one day. next day i have 0bytes free disk space. ubuntu"?
[02:26] <AcidRain2012> i get off the wall results about people pimping their computer. nothing about losing it
[02:26] <init[dot]d> AcidRain2012, try df -H
[02:26] <sicko> what three times
[02:26] <zombifier> AcidRain2012: Ubuntu has a disk analyzer tool, launch it and see what folders are eating up space
[02:26] <sicko> na ya alright m8
[02:27] <AcidRain2012> zombifier: i told u already. when i use disk analyzer, it says 68gigs UESED space. but no file in any folder is greater than 2megs. and the rest are like 1kb files
[02:27] <sicko> basically windows xp has disapearred from the boot menu
[02:27] <AcidRain2012> well u know wha ti mean
[02:28] <init[dot]d> sicko, can you get into xp?
[02:28] <zombifier> sicko: Try running 'sudo update-grub' (without quotes)
[02:28] <sicko> na theres no option ubuntu auto boots
[02:28] <sicko> kk
[02:28] <Jagst3r15> xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[02:28] <Jagst3r15> sorry
[02:29] <sicko> zombifier, then wut reboot ?
[02:29] <AcidRain2012> hmmm. seems a file of size 599megs. (the offspring discography) that i downloaded is apparently taking up 99% of disk space.... when i have 68gigs used on a 80gig hdd
[02:29] <zombifier> Does the output shows Windows XP?
[02:29] <Jagst3r15> anyone know where u can suggest stuff that ubuntu develoipers will look at?
[02:29] <bazhang> !brainstorm | Jagst3r15
[02:30] <Jagst3r15> ty mr. bot
[02:30] <baazigar> Hello, i want to be able to set passwords to my txt files. How can i do that.
[02:30] <AcidRain2012> wtf. when i delete files it says at 100% still!
[02:30] <AcidRain2012> its like something is taking more disk space as i free more disk space
[02:30] <AcidRain2012> ubuntu virus perhaps?
[02:31] <baazigar> AcidRain2012 : delete from trash too
[02:31] <zombifier> AcidRain2012: Install BleachBit, clean up junk, and see if it helps
[02:31] <AcidRain2012> baazigar: i am deleting from trash
[02:31] <AcidRain2012> i swear
[02:31] <AcidRain2012> yall are thinkin im crazy
[02:31] <init[dot]d> baazigar, mcrypt myfile.txt
[02:31] <dr_willis> AcidRain2012:   more likely some service logging faster then you can delete..
[02:31] <init[dot]d> from terminal
[02:31] <AcidRain2012> dr_willis: what service could do that?
[02:32] <sicko> updatet grub still no xp option at the start just a str8 boot into ubuntu
[02:32] <AcidRain2012> and why does that services log files not show up in disk analyzer?
[02:32] <baazigar> init[dot]d : let me try that
[02:32] <dr_willis> this is why i sugested a licve cd earlier.. to get to a known state
[02:32] <dr_willis> never used disk analizer. i tend to use the cli tools
[02:33] <sicko> it even asked me if in wanted to install alongside xp i clicked yes
[02:33] <sicko> how retarded
[02:33] <awk_sed_grep> ubottu: can you help me?
[02:34] <sicko> fuckin ubuntu
[02:34] <init[dot]d> my
[02:35] <awk_sed_grep> !ops
[02:35] <bazhang> sicko, no cursing here
[02:35] <sicko> wut
[02:35] <zombifier> sicko: When you update-grub does the output of the command shows Windows XP at all?
[02:35] <bazhang> awk_sed_grep, yes?
[02:35] <sicko> yup
[02:35] <IdleOne> !language | sicko
[02:35] <sicko> its 2am
[02:35] <awk_sed_grep> Oh man, sorry. I misunderstood what that was for.
[02:35] <Jordan_U> !language | sicko
[02:35] <sicko> my bad 3:35am
[02:35] <IdleOne> sicko: doesn't matter what time it is in your little part of the universe
[02:36] <joint> does anybody here run ubuntu?
[02:36] <sicko> my little part huh
[02:36] <dr_willis> sicko  be mmore verbose in your answers..  several people may ask you somthing.. just saying 'yep' dosent clarify which one you answered
[02:36] <init[dot]d> joint, nope
[02:36] <sicko> same as ur little part m8
[02:36] <zombifier> joint: it should be obvious
[02:36] <dr_willis> sicko how many hard drives are on your system?
[02:36] <bazhang> joint, whats the real question
[02:36] <zombifier> sicko: Maybe Windows XP is still there, but Grub's timeout value is 0
[02:36] <sicko> means squat to me
[02:36] <AcidRain2012> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=65zymt&s=6   --- here is a screen shot of disk analyzer
[02:37] <dr_willis> http://unstableme.blogspot.com/2009/01/find-largest-files-in-linux.html
[02:37] <AcidRain2012> i have 2.8gigs of free disk space. but 58 used. how is that possible when it really says .7% used under it?
[02:37] <sicko> yeah xp is still there for sure
[02:37] <Jordan_U> sicko: What is the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[02:37] <sicko> sec
[02:38] <dr_willis> 5% of an ext2/3/4 is reserved by default for root ussage
[02:38] <sicko> Jordan_U,  /dev/sda1:Microsoft Windows XP Professional:Windows:chain
[02:38] <zombifier> sicko: Then the problem is with Grub's timeout value
[02:39] <sicko> ok
[02:39] <sicko> how to fix m8
[02:39] <Jordan_U> sicko: Can you pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[02:39] <sicko> ill try
[02:39] <dr_willis> sicko so you do or do not see a GRUB menu when you first boot wwith a list of the  differnt linux  kernels?
[02:39] <sicko> no grub menu str8 into ubntu
[02:40] <dr_willis> so the grub menu is hidden.  holding shift as it boots should make it appear.
[02:40] <sicko> ok lets try that
[02:40] <sicko> brb
[02:40] <dr_willis> they really really need to print some message about hidden grub when the system boots.. or ust stop hideing the thing..
[02:42] <sicko> no joy holding shift
[02:42] <zombifier> Looks like it's changing timeout value by hand
[02:43] <sicko> dr_willis,  no grub menu whatsoever
[02:43] <baazigar> init[dot]d : how to decrypt it again?
[02:43] <sicko> dr_willis, holding shift does make it apppear
[02:43] <baazigar> init[dot]d : i simply did mcrypt dom.txt
[02:43] <baazigar> how to decrypt it again
[02:44] <dr_willis> sicko you can edit the file /etc/default/grub   to change the timeout value and have it not hide the grub menu. but im not on a  linux box so cant walk you through it.
[02:44] <dr_willis> but there should be others in here that can, and tons of online docs on the /etc/default/grub file
[02:45] <AcidRain2012> bleechbit is raping my computer right now
[02:45] <AcidRain2012> lol
[02:45] <init[dot]d> baazigar, mcrypt_decrypt file.txt
[02:45] <IdleOne> AcidRain2012: keep it family friendly please
[02:45] <AcidRain2012> like brutally.
[02:45] <ludlow> !deepin
[02:45] <AcidRain2012> hey im just saying. my computer is running so slow rightnow
[02:46] <ludlow> !chrome
[02:46] <sicko> sigh
[02:46] <ludlow> !shatterworth
[02:46] <Jordan_U> sicko: Can you pastebin your /boot/grub/grub.cfg ?
[02:46] <init[dot]d> baazigar, or mdecrypt file.txt
[02:46] <IdleOne> !msgthebot | ludlow
[02:46] <sicko> ill try locate it for you Jordan sec m8
[02:46] <zombifier> sicko: Edit the /etc/default/grub file, find the line "GRUB_TIMEOUT" and post the value
[02:47] <baazigar> init[dot]d : it says unknown suffix, appending .dc
[02:47] <AcidRain2012> wtf... bleechbit hacked me!
[02:47] <baazigar> whereas it encrypted in .nc
[02:47] <AcidRain2012> unable to locate xauthentication file
[02:47] <AcidRain2012> opmg
[02:47]  * dr_willis sedates AcidRain2012
[02:48] <AcidRain2012> ok. thx to bleechbit ive lost half files on my comp. and still 58gig space used
[02:48] <AcidRain2012> :/.
[02:48] <sicko> zombifier,  http://pastebin.com/H3zCKhhP
[02:49] <baazigar> init[dot]d : i found the way ---> mcrypt -d file.txt.nc
[02:50] <Jordan_U> sicko: To pastebin your grub.cfg file you can install pastebinit with "sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then run  "sudo cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | pastebinit".
[02:50] <sicko> http://pastebin.com/H3zCKhhP
[02:50] <sicko> is that not it ?
[02:50] <Jordan_U> sicko: That is not it.
[02:50] <sicko> ok
[02:51] <Jagst3r15> is there any way to update the google chrome from the official google site?
[02:51] <Jordan_U> Jagst3r15: I don't understand what you mean. Could you try to rephrase your question?
[02:51] <Jagst3r15> like u know how u can get the google chrome from google.com it is more up to date, however it does not have auto update
[02:52] <zombifier> Jagst3r15: I haven't used Chrome, but I think it automatically adds it repo into your system
[02:52] <Jagst3r15> so how would u update it
[02:52] <zombifier> so it's updated via Update Manager
[02:52] <Jagst3r15> cuz the chromium one is bad
[02:52] <Jagst3r15> it is like a full version behind
[02:52] <sicko> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060101/
[02:52] <Jordan_U> Jagst3r15: Installing google chrome's .deb packages automatically adds a chrome repository.
[02:52] <Jagst3r15> and that will update itself?
[02:53] <zombifier> Ubuntu's Update Manager will do the job
[02:53] <Like> Mate qap
[02:53] <dr_willis> google chromes deb does add the google repo. then the package manager can updagte chrome.. yes..
[02:54] <Jagst3r15> u know im taking about google chrome not chromium right
[02:54] <Jagst3r15> sorry just checking cuz i am noob
[02:54] <Jordan_U> sicko: Could you run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces? (ubottu will give you instructions).
[02:54] <dr_willis> Googles Official Chrome DEB file.. adds the google Repository when the deb is installed....
[02:54] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | sicko
[02:55] <sicko> kk
[02:55] <Jagst3r15> dr_willis does it like check the google.com repo daily to see if its current?
[02:55] <Jagst3r15> trying to figure out how it works kinda ;)
[02:56] <dr_willis> Jagst3r15:  the package manager handles the updateing and checking... so how often it checks is  how often its checked...
[02:56] <dr_willis> I set mine to check once a week i belive
[02:56] <zombifier> Jagst3r15: If you're familiar with PPA, then this is the same
[02:56] <Jagst3r15> i am not
[02:56] <dr_willis> !ppa
[02:57] <dr_willis> chrome will get updated just like all the rest of the system does..
[02:57] <dr_willis> after that repository/ppa is setup.. which  is done automatically once you install the .deb
[02:57] <Jagst3r15> i see, thanks :)
[02:57] <zeroRooter> can i contribute to ubuntu with my halfwaydecent knowledge of Java? :D
[02:59] <zombifier> zeroRooter: there are loads of ways to contribute to Ubuntu, so maybe
[03:00] <hakin9> quit
[03:00] <sicko> ubottu, no idea how to run it m8
[03:00] <AcidRain2012> and bleechbit went commando on my computer. it worked. 57.19GIGS of disk space revoered thanks man
[03:01] <zombifier> AcidRain2012: lol
[03:02] <sniggles> yes, hello I am trying to make a USB to install ubuntu from
[03:02] <sniggles> i am currently running debian
[03:02] <zombifier> sniggles: install unetbootin
[03:02] <L3top> sniggles: try unetbootin.
[03:02] <sniggles> I am downloading the 12.04 iso... should I keep doing this?
[03:03] <psusi> sniggles, if that's the version you want to install
[03:03] <L3top> sniggles: yes... and burn it with unetbootin
[03:03] <sniggles> burn?
[03:03] <sniggles> "burn" the usb stick?
[03:03] <sicko> what a load of kuffuffle considering it told me i was installing alonside xp
[03:03] <zombifier> "burn" is not the right word :P
[03:03] <psusi> sniggles, for lack of a better word, yes
[03:03] <sicko> it blatantly lied to me
[03:03] <L3top> sniggles: It is a relative term.... but no... technically you are not burning it.
[03:04] <sniggles> is it stupid to do this with the USB? should I just go to the store and get a CD?
[03:04] <psusi> sniggles, I prefer usb... it's faster
[03:04] <sniggles> ahhh ok thx :]
[03:04] <L3top> sniggles: It is much faster, and generally less error prone.
[03:04] <MonkeyDust> sniggles  and you can erase it from usb
[03:04] <sniggles> im actually about a month into linuxing
[03:04] <sniggles> I started with debian because its the "original"
[03:04] <sniggles> but boy was that a fiasco
[03:05] <zombifier> sicko: Please don't rant about a problem you seems to be the only one having. Try posting on ubuntuforums.org
[03:05] <zombifier> and your XP is not removed. It's still there, just not detected
[03:05] <Scrivener> So in 12.04 I cannot get 2 displays working. It will not detect or display anything on the second display. I'm using up-to-date Nvidia drivers for my EVGA GeForce GTX 560Ti card, with one monitor using HDMI and the other using DVI. Suggestions?
[03:05] <sniggles> care to comment on mint vs. ubuntu?
[03:05] <sicko> na im fine ranting thanks :)
[03:05] <sicko> 31 years old im a rant if i need to rant
[03:05] <sniggles> i am open to all words of wisdom :]
[03:05] <MonkeyDust> sniggles  not here
[03:05] <sicko> ubuntu lied to me
[03:05] <L3top> !mint
[03:05] <zombifier> !offtopic
[03:06] <sniggles> ok sry
[03:06] <zeroRooter> zombifier: yeah but anything i could do Java related? i don't want to learn another language just yet, i want to master java first
[03:06] <L3top> sicko: millions of people use the side by side install method with windows. It was not a lie, you simply encountered a problem which most do not...
[03:07] <sicko> sok ill remove windows altogether using gparted and just use ubuntu for now fcuk it
[03:07] <Jordan_U> sicko: You can either post the boot info script results and I'm certain I can help you get things working again, or you can continue ranting and be removed from the channel.
[03:07] <sicko> get a grip u tard
[03:07] <L3top> sicko: cursing is not allowed here... no matter how misspelled.
[03:07] <sicko> im removin windows
[03:07] <Jagst3r15> sniggles see pm
[03:07] <L3top> Tard is not appropriate either.
[03:07] <Jagst3r15> he is angry
[03:07] <Jagst3r15> :o
[03:07] <zombifier> sicko: Try the ubuntuforums.org like what I said. Help is slower, but there might be more people there
[03:08] <Scrivener> Nevermind... turned out it was Nvidia software settings
[03:10] <L3top> sigh.
[03:11] <meiji11> hey there. I'm trying to get ubuntu 12.04 working on a dell latitude d800. x.org just hangs on a grey screen, presumably because unity starts and never finishes.
[03:11] <L3top> Why do users feel not only entitled to the help I want to give, but licensed to abuse? It is disheartening.
[03:11] <meiji11> I know very little about X.org and why it sometimes screws up.
[03:12] <dr_willis> L3top: yep. i tend to have little patience for that type these days
[03:12] <sauvin> L3top, welcome to the Internet Sandbox.
[03:13] <meiji11> to start, is there a log somewhere that I can look at, that might indicate the problem?
[03:13] <L3top> meiji11: can I please see the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA    that is if you are able to hit a terminal
[03:13] <meiji11> L3top: of course, one moment..
[03:14] <sacrebleu> Is there a way to upgrade remotely without having it hang during boot?  The folks at my VPS provider say there is some way
[03:14] <meiji11> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA corporation NV34M [GeForce FX Go5200 64M] [10de:0324] (rev a1)
[03:15] <ubuntu> nic
[03:15] <L3top> meiji11: /var/log/Xorg.0.log typically.
[03:16] <L3top> meiji11: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[03:16] <meiji11> 12.04
[03:17] <L3top> meiji11: you need nvidia-173 in that case
[03:17] <L3top> nvidia-current will NOT work.
[03:17] <sniggles> what will the best filesystem be to use for installing ubuntu on my SSD?
[03:17] <meiji11> ah, ok.
[03:18] <meiji11> is nvidia-173 a package?
[03:18] <nugger> How do I log out in cmd line
[03:18] <jrdnn> nugger: exit
[03:18] <L3top> meiji11: I would frankly sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia-current first...
[03:18] <nugger> that will bring me to the login screen?
[03:18] <L3top> wait... in 1204 the -- might not be necessary
[03:18] <meiji11> ok, I'll do that.
[03:19] <L3top> !info nvidia-173
[03:19] <meiji11> nvidia-173 says it depends on xorg-video-abi-10 'but it is not installable'
[03:20] <meiji11> when I try to install xorg-video-abi-10, it says it's not available..
[03:20] <L3top> meiji11: have you installed some sort of ppa?
[03:20] <meiji11> I'm not sure, is there a way I can check? I guess by looking at sources.list?
[03:20] <L3top> ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[03:21] <ghostzali> join Bandung
[03:21] <L3top> btw meiji11, you should start typing my nic and hit tab to complete. This way I do not miss your replies.
[03:21] <meiji11> it returns nothing.
[03:21] <meiji11> L3top: ok, will do. sorry.
[03:22] <meiji11> L3top: I suppose that means there's no ppa?
[03:22] <L3top> meiji11: no reason to apologize... just letting you know. As to PPA that is not confirmed... just the normal position for them... give me a second
[03:23] <Scrivener> Alright, so does anyone here have experience with dual monitors and Nvidia cards in Ubuntu?
[03:25] <L3top> meiji11: does sudo dpkg --configure -a return anything?
[03:25] <meiji11> L3top: it doesn't.
[03:26] <L3top> meiji11: can you please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list file? Because this really shouldn't be a problem...
[03:27] <L3top> !pastebin | meiji11
[03:27] <meiji11> L3top: let's see.. I only have the terminal available I'm the laptop. I'm on IRC through my desktop.. the laptop has wireless. so.. how best to do this. heh.
[03:27] <meiji11> never had to send mail or anything from the terminal before.
[03:27] <meiji11> L3top: this is proving to be an educational night.
[03:27] <L3top> !pastebinit | meiji11
[03:28] <L3top> meiji11: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[03:28] <L3top> meiji11: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:28] <meiji11> L3top: thanks, installing..
[03:29] <MonkeyDust> Scrivener  the nvidia developers do not like linux
[03:29] <meiji11> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060129
[03:29] <dr_willis>  used nvidia and dual monitors and occasionally dual nvidia cards on and off..
[03:30] <dr_willis> over the  last  few years
[03:30] <jrdnn> MonkeyDust: Isn't the nvidia blob updated for new xorg versions before fglrx usually?
[03:30] <Jagst3r15> dr_willis do i have to enable the manager to check for unspported updates for the google chrome?
[03:30] <Scrivener> MonkeyDust, So I've heard...
[03:30] <Scrivener> Even so...
[03:30] <Scrivener> Meh.
[03:30] <dr_willis> i find  nvidia support in linux better then ati/amd/fglrx - but so much depends on theexact cards you have
[03:30] <Scrivener> Let me get this error for you.
[03:30] <Scrivener> The exact card is an EVGA GTX 560Ti
[03:30] <dr_willis> Jagst3r15:  i never have needed to
[03:30] <MonkeyDust> Scrivener  try this (i have intel video myself, so havent tried) https://tjakubowski.wordpress.com/2012/05/06/ubuntu-12-04-dual-monitor-setup-with-nvidia-graphic-card/
[03:30] <Scrivener> But I'll grab the error.
[03:30] <Scrivener> I'm using nvidia-settings.
[03:30] <Jagst3r15> k thnx
[03:31] <Scrivener> I'll take a look. Thanks MonkeyDust
[03:31] <Scrivener> When researching my error, it seems like *every* single instance of it (and there are several) have gone unanswered
[03:31] <dr_willis> i tend to use the nvidia cards that have been out a while and are not 'cutting edge' so are more of a value/bang for the buck cards.  so i rarely  have issues with them
[03:31] <Scrivener> Except for one who said it was because nvidia-settings did not launch as root.
[03:31] <Scrivener> So I did so at the command line, but still no dice.
[03:32] <dr_willis> gksudo nvidia-settings  ;)
[03:32] <L3top> meiji11: that all looks very normal. Can you please give me the output of apt-cache policy | grep -i candid
[03:32] <dr_willis> the default ubuntu setup/menu  icons does run it as root i belive.
[03:32] <jga75> Hi to all people here
[03:33] <jga75> Anyone here with ubiquiti experience?
[03:33] <mindbender1> when trying to install the ati proprietary drivers, it failed with this line from the logs: fglrx_updates is not the alternative in use
[03:33] <L3top> Scrivener: please give me the output of: lspci -nn | grep VGA
[03:33] <meiji11> L3top: also returns nothing.
[03:33] <Scrivener> I'll give you the exact error, and I'll follow that up with that output. The error is short enough to go here.
[03:33] <Scrivener> ailed to set MetaMode (1) 'DFP-1: 1920x1080_60i @1920x1080 +0+0, DFP-2: 1600x900 @1600x900 +1920+0' (Mode 3520x1080, id: 55) on X screen 0
[03:33] <Scrivener> Oops.
[03:33] <Scrivener> Failed to set MetaMode (1) 'DFP-1: 1920x1080_60i @1920x1080 +0+0, DFP-2: 1600x900 @1600x900 +1920+0' (Mode 3520x1080, id: 55) on X screen 0
[03:33] <L3top> meiji11: then you typed wrong.
[03:33] <FloodBot1> Scrivener: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:34] <Scrivener> Now I'll grab and paste the output.
[03:34] <Scrivener> Of that command.
[03:34] <mindbender1> can someone offer an advice
[03:34] <L3top> mindbender1: you should also give me the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA
[03:34] <Scrivener> Ah, nevermind.
[03:34] <Scrivener> Also small. Here it is: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF110 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti] [10de:1200] (rev a1)
[03:34] <jga75> Can anyone give me advice about ubiquiti access points?
[03:34] <meiji11> L3top: doesn't seem that I did. I typed the command without the grep pipe, and it gave me a bunch of lines, none of which contain 'candid' apparently
[03:34] <jga75> Don't know if there is a room for ubiquiti
[03:35] <dr_willis> !alia | jga75
[03:35] <dr_willis> !alis | jga75
[03:35] <mindbender1> L3top: 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Wrestler [Radeon HD 6320] [1002:9806]
[03:35] <L3top> meiji11:  -i after the grep
[03:35] <L3top> meiji11: I am looking for Candidate
[03:36] <meiji11>  L3top: right, it was "apt-cache policy | grep -i candid", right? I typed precisely that.
[03:36] <jga75> thanks drr_willis
[03:36] <L3top> mindbender1: you should work just fine with fglrx
[03:37] <L3top> meiji11: sorry... no... totally wrong... my bad... the paste did not happen. One second
[03:37] <mindbender1> L3top: you mean the other driver without the post-release updates?
[03:39] <L3top> meiji11: again... sorry for the typo, and then blaming you. Please give me: apt-cache policy xorg-video-abi-10 | grep -i candid
[03:39] <meiji11> L3top: Candidate: (none)
[03:39] <mindbender1> L3top: thanks the other one installed just fine
[03:39] <L3top> mindbender1: you are referring to the catylist driver...  I do not expect it makes a whole heck of a lot of difference
[03:39] <mindbender1> going for a reboot
[03:40] <L3top> ok
[03:40] <AndChat223345> I have a little problem about priviledge.Provided I have two linux distros installed on one pc, a file created and owned by a user in linux A,would the permissions and ownership of that file 'transfered' to the user in linux B that shared the same uid with the oringinal user in linux A?  hope I didn't post question in wrong place..
[03:40] <L3top> !info xorg-video-abi-10
[03:41] <L3top> uhhh... that's weird... let me look at your sources again meiji11
[03:41] <oxbat> 什么
[03:42] <JVBV> Hello
[03:42] <meiji11> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060143
[03:42] <jrdnn> AndChat223345 The permissions would be based on the mountpoint
[03:42] <jrdnn> JVBV: Hi
[03:43] <Scrivener_> Alright, so I got it operational.
[03:43] <JVBV> Does anyone have experience with making USR OEM 2891 Internal modems work under 10.04? According to the readme I need to compile a kernel module for it, which fails horribly (many errors).
[03:43] <Scrivener_> What I was trying to do was "apply" twinview settings after changing them in nvidia-servre.
[03:44] <L3top> lol... I still had it... your sources aren't the problem as near as I can tell meiji11... however... I do not understand what is calling that package, which does not exist in 1204... nor does that nvidia package exist in earlier repos... so... I am a bit mystified.
[03:44] <Scrivener_> I just used the "save to xorg.conf" option and then restarted the X server.
[03:44] <oxbat> what
[03:44] <oxbat> what's this
[03:44] <meiji11> L3top: I see. weird.
[03:44] <oxbat> this
[03:44] <Scrivener_> Well, it displayed blackness aside from a wonky purple bar atop the second monitor, so I rebooted the computer.
[03:44] <Scrivener_> Lo and behold, I now have a working second monitor.
[03:44] <Scrivener_> Weird.
[03:47] <L3top> meiji11: I don't really know how to advise you... apt-cache depends/rdepends does not reveal this as a pre-requisite nor a post-requisite. I need to push you to someone who understands this error... as it strikes me  as wizardry... and I cannot fight wizards. They creep me out.
[03:47] <omido> Hi. noob here. i have some questions about Java. which package should someone install to enable java? openJDK 6 or 7 (and/or Iced Tea web?) . what about Oracle(sun)Java?
[03:47] <anonymous_> hello bro
[03:47] <meiji11> L3top: ok, thanks for your help.
[03:48] <dr_willis> omido: depends on your java needs.
[03:49] <dr_willis> !java | omido
[03:49] <L3top> omido: sun (oracle now) java is no longer available in repos due to the awesome licensing because of the takeover... most things will run in OS java, but some will not. The long answer is to recommend you DL from Oracle... but there is a PPA with a deb package which makes it... much much easier.
[03:49] <anonymous_> hoho.....
[03:50] <anonymous_> wake up nero...
[03:50] <L3top> neo
[03:50] <anonymous_> the matrix has you
[03:50] <L3top> anonymous_: this is not a chat room. Do you have an ubuntu support queston?
[03:50] <meiji11> L3top: the graphical login does come up.. it's unity that seems to hang.
[03:51] <AndChat223345> jrdnn:urr... That said, it would bypass the permission config if I mount a filesystem to a folder which i have high priviledge ,even though that file was created and owned by someone in another linux system?
[03:51] <Nom-> Is it generally recommended to have /boot on a non-LVM partition these days?
[03:51] <jrdnn> AndChat223345 That's how rescue CDs work
[03:51] <Nom-> Or is Grub/etc fine with LVM?
[03:51] <L3top> meiji11: that is because it is 3d... which will be hideously broken if you are trying to use the current drivers on that hardware. I am very sorry, but you MUST use the nvidia 173 driver.
[03:52] <meiji11> L3top: what if I drop down to unity 2d?
[03:52] <meiji11> L3top: or some other window manager
[03:52] <L3top> meiji11: It will only be sometimes broken
[03:52] <omido> Thankyou dr_willis  and L3top  can you please give me the link to ubuntu package of Oracle Java? I just moved from openSUSE to ubuntu and i was using the sun java in opensuse which was in their repos. also adobe reader was there but i cannot find in ubuntu
[03:53] <L3top> meiji11: You will be able to do almost ANYTHING you want on 173... you will not be able to do MOST of what you want on current. You are lucky to have basic graphics.
[03:53] <Jagst3r15> meiji11 whats your processor?
[03:53] <meiji11> L3top: ok then. I'll make do with what I can get for now, I guess.
[03:53] <meiji11> Jagst3r15: let me check.
[03:54] <AndChat223345> jrdnn:Get it,thx.  this is funny...
[03:54] <jrdnn> AndChat223345 You're welcome :)
[03:54] <L3top> meiji11: honestly... you should get to the bottom of what the conflict is. It should NOT exist.
[03:55] <mindbender1> L3top: actually why I started looking for drivers is because I'm getting better perf with my battery on windows almost 3 hours difference and I guess that's because ubuntu is always spinning my fan
[03:55] <L3top> omido: ppas are EXPLICITLY not supported... but http://xubuntugeek.blogspot.com/2012/05/install-oracle-java-7-in-xubuntu-1204.html  should get you there.
[03:55] <meiji11> L3top: right, I know. I'm hoping someone will fix the broken package and the problem will resolve itself.
[03:55] <L3top> !ppa | omido
[03:55] <meiji11> Jagst3r15: I'm not sure what the processor is. 'i686.' Yep, informative.
[03:56] <Jagst3r15> its not on the front of ur comp?
[03:56] <battlehands> I am in terminal.  After executing some python commands, my terminal starts displaying "funky characters" when I try to type.  I ctrl+d and I can begin typing letters again, but I cannot get back to my default command line.  This is a repeating problem.  Please advise.
[03:56] <bazhang> omido, acroread is in partner repo now
[03:56] <L3top> mindbender1: there are issues... and.. some fixes... for battery issues. I am not a wealth of knowledge on the subject.
[03:56] <bazhang> !partner | omido
[03:56] <jrdnn> battlehands type exit hit enter and relogin that's what I do when my terminal is messed up sometimes
[03:56] <MadeTheLeap> Has anyone here experienced that "cable unplugged" error for a wired network connection?
[03:57] <mindbender1> L3top: any directions will be taken well.. what do you suggest
[03:57] <dr_willis> !java | omido
[03:58] <meiji11> man, is this screwy. the cursor is arbitrarily flying into corners, without my touching the trackpad..
[03:58] <battlehands> jrdnn, I'm looking for a fix that doesnt require me to exit terminal
[03:58] <jrdnn> battlehands  "clear" maybe?
[03:59] <MadeTheLeap> Has anyone upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04?
[03:59] <ejv> battlehands: type `reset`
[03:59] <L3top> mindbender1: my suggestions are not particularly good or well receiived in this channel, and involve google. Please restate your battery issue again for the main channel, and I am sure someone more aware will address it.
[03:59] <ejv> should do the trick
[03:59] <dr_willis> MadeTheLeap:  its possible.  do yiu have a more specific question?
[04:00] <dorsk> anyone awake?
[04:00] <dr_willis> ZZZzzz...
[04:01] <MadeTheLeap> dr_willis: I did the 11.10 to 12.04 upgrade and my NIC stopped working.  I got an error message "cable unplugged" error for a wired network connection.  Any ideas how to fix it?
[04:01] <L3top> meiji11: You should expect all manner of chaotic behavior on that driver. your HW is EXPLICITLY not supported. They want a unified driver. Your HW cannot be made to work, so they produce a driver specifically for you. You need to work out the issue preventing you from installing it... not try to duct tape a driver KNOWN to be incompatable.
[04:01] <dr_willis> MadeTheLeap:  nope.. other then say check the cable.. make sure the dog dident chew it.
[04:02] <MadeTheLeap> dr_willis:  Cable's totally fine.  NIC is fine.  It totally worked in 11.10 and during the upgrade.
[04:02] <zykotick9> MadeTheLeap: does your NIC have a light, is it on?
[04:02] <dr_willis> MadeTheLeap:  check tghe forums and askubuntu.com also would be a good starting point
[04:02] <eghost> join #serpentstongue
[04:02] <dorsk> If i were to add a windows installation alongside my ubuntu, how would I proceed? I'm scared I might just screw up grub if I pop the windows disc and install. Anyone know?
[04:02] <omido> Thank you guys
[04:03] <MadeTheLeap> dr_willis:  I've spent the past week going through dozens of sites including posting my own question on Ubuntu, to no avail.
[04:03] <dr_willis> dorsk:  learn to reinstall grub.. is a handy skill. ;)
[04:03] <zykotick9> !grub | dorsk
[04:03] <mindbender1> I'm getting poor battery performance when compared to Windows and my fan is always on and loud. Not comparable to how the machine works on windows. How can I optimize the my battery performance and stop the constant loud noise of the fan. Help needed
[04:03] <dr_willis> dorsk:  installing grub to the Mbr of a spare flash drive as a emergancy boot the system tool... is also usefull.
[04:03] <MadeTheLeap> dorsk:  There is a rescue CD out there (Linux based).  It worked well for me.
[04:04] <dorsk> will i need the rescue CD to access my ubuntu partition after having installed Windows?
[04:04] <dr_willis> dorsk:  theres a live cd with the boot-repair tool also you can get (linked in the !fixgrub wiki page) thats handy
[04:04] <dr_willis> dorsk:  install windows, fix grub.. boot to the grub menu like you normally do..
[04:05] <dr_willis> rerun update-grub so the system sees/adds the windows install to the grub menu..
[04:05] <dorsk> alright
[04:05] <dorsk> thanks for your help
[04:05] <dorsk> I guess it's a good idea to create a NTFS partition beforehand?
[04:06] <dorsk> as in, before running the windows installer
[04:07] <guest-Awrs3C> please. i'm in big trouble. someone help me. i wasn't doing anything and now ubuntu wont let me log into my account anymore. guest works fine but my account wont sign in. i can't boot into safe mode because it asks for a rot password and my root password doesn't work anymore. if only i could recover my files on my home dir. dude, i can't lose those files. please..
[04:07] <Jagst3r15> will ubuntu tv be avaible on desktop in some fashion?
[04:07] <guest-Awrs3C> please, i'm begging..
[04:08] <bazhang> Jagst3r15, try #ubuntu-tv
[04:08] <Jagst3r15> ty sorry didnt know that was there
[04:08] <guest-Awrs3C> i wsn't doing anything. at first it would prompt me for a password and now my account just tries to login and theres a black screen for a second and then it just goes back to the login screen.
[04:08] <bazhang> guest-Awrs3C, there is no root password
[04:09] <guest-Awrs3C> my account wont login.
[04:09] <aithox> hi, help me about app installation problem , here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060156/
[04:09] <guest-Awrs3C> i've lost my files.
[04:09] <L3top> guest-Awrs3C: that sounds... sort of like... you done been rooted. If you cannot login under your root account. That is sort of... a bad sign.
[04:09] <guest-Awrs3C> my life is on this computer.
[04:09] <guest-Awrs3C> i trust ubuntu.
[04:09] <bazhang> guest-Awrs3C, please stop with the enter key
[04:09] <guest-Awrs3C> is there a way to recover my files as guest?
[04:10] <dorsk> should be doable with a live-cd as long as your home folder isnt encrypted, no?
[04:10] <guest-Awrs3C> i have ubuntu on a cd. do you mean like a fresh install?
[04:11] <L3top> guest-Awrs3C: ubuntu is not the culprit. Poor security practice is... You could likely chroot in from a live disk and create another admin account but... if root is gone... I would just login to live disk and transfer files off.
[04:11] <dorsk> boot from live-cd, mount the drive and backup the files
[04:11] <dorsk> should work, unless whoever has root access decided to encrypt your drive
[04:12] <mindbender1> I seem to be the only one experiencing this problem of battery performance and loud constant fan
[04:12] <L3top> ^ this
[04:13] <dr_willis> mindbender1:  poor power management was a big issus in 11.10  - it got improved/fixed for a lot of machines in 12.04 - but theres problem machines out there.
[04:13] <L3top> mindbender1:  there are SO many different issues... check acpi settings, and bios settings. For most 1204 has had greatly improved battery performance.
[04:14] <dr_willis> check the forums and askubuntu.com for your exact make/model machine. may  be some known tweaks to get it working right or better
[04:14] <mindbender1> can i get a link to something to read?
[04:15] <aithox> hello, can u help me with software installation errors.
[04:16] <bazhang> aithox, what version of ubuntu, installing what software and from where, what were the errors
[04:17] <aithox> 12.04 i'm trying to install php5
[04:17] <aithox> bazhang: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060156/
[04:17] <bazhang> aithox, whats the exact package name
[04:17] <aithox> php5
[04:17] <bazhang> !info php5
[04:17] <bazhang> aithox, and whats the error
[04:19] <aithox> bazhang: after doing sudo apt-get install php5 i got that error
[04:19] <aithox> as the links above
[04:19] <root> good morning
[04:19] <bazhang> aithox, did you update your system prior to this
[04:19] <aithox> yeah i did..
[04:20] <aithox> i can install everything.. except i have that errors
[04:20] <aithox> how can i clear that..?
[04:20] <usr13> aithox: sudo apt-get -f install php5
[04:20] <thothstriangle> any ideas what would cause a terminal freeze
[04:21] <sacarlson> aithox: can you try install libapache2-mod-php5filter ?
[04:21] <guest-q70yHn> i can't figure out how to mount from a live disk and create a back up. all i need is one file. everything is in that file. all of my data is gone if i can't recover it. my box isn't rooted. first it froze and then terminal promoted asking me to input my password and it didn't work.then at first guest would work and i could change my password, it reconized it but i changed to auto login and now it just tries to login and goes
[04:21] <guest-q70yHn>  back to the login screen.
[04:21] <aithox> usr13: not fine..
[04:21] <guest-q70yHn> i'm not rooted.
[04:22] <dr_willis> guest-q70yHn:  at the login screen,.. you can try to get to the console via alt-ctrl-f1 and see if you can login at the console..
[04:22] <lucia> i have a problem with ubuntu ver.10.20
[04:22] <dr_willis> if that works.. then its some odd issue with your X settings.
[04:23] <guest-q70yHn> i can't. i can't even login to safe mode.
[04:23] <guest-q70yHn> i tried to reset the password from safe mode. root password wont work.
[04:23] <dr_willis> guess you boot a live cd. mount the installed system, and access it as root from the live cd.
[04:23] <usr13> guest-q70yHn: What do you mean root password won't work?  Did you enable the root account?
[04:24] <guest-q70yHn> how do i do that as guest?
[04:24] <usr13> guest-q70yHn: How do you do what?
[04:24] <dr_willis> lucia whats the issue and whats the exact version?  10.20 is not a ubuntu version
[04:24] <guest-q70yHn> enable root account? sudo su?
[04:24] <guest-q70yHn> doesn't work.
[04:24] <usr13> guest-q70yHn: Use sudo
[04:24] <guest-q70yHn> i had before.
[04:24] <guest-q70yHn> the password doesn't work.
[04:24] <aithox> it is not ok i still have this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060156/
[04:24] <dr_willis> live cd has no sudo password set.
[04:25] <samkan> Hi, I just installed inkscape in fresh machine, core i7, but If i do some operation inkscape takes 100% cpu
[04:25] <iHarp> It is dangerous to change the non-exec status of a directory, correct?
[04:26] <guest-q70yHn> i don't understand how this could have happened.
[04:26] <dr_willis> iHarp:  if a directory is not executable you wont be able to view its contents, i belive...
[04:26] <usr13> guest-q70yHn: You are having a communication problem.
[04:26] <guest-q70yHn> i have an ubuntu disk, is that what you mean by live disk?
[04:26] <dr_willis> guest-q70yHn:  given what youve been going on about by root passwords and sudo su and stuff.. its hard for us to guess..
[04:26] <usr13> guest-q70yHn: Yes live CD would be the standard Ubuntu install CD.
[04:26] <dr_willis> guest-q70yHn:  boot  the ubuntu cd..  come back to irc from it.. so we can try to help walkj you through it.
[04:27] <samkan> my inkscape takes 100% cpu
[04:27] <samkan> any solution?
[04:27] <iHarp> dr_willis: Do you still modify that on fstab?
[04:27] <guest-q70yHn> okay. so boot from the disk as if i'm trying it out?
[04:27] <usr13> guest-q70yHn: Yes
[04:27] <guest-q70yHn> brb
[04:27] <dr_willis> iHarp:  im not sure what you are doing...
[04:28] <iHarp> trying to change my /tmp folder to nonexec. Apparently there is a security hole there from what I've been reading
[04:29] <dr_willis> iHarp:  havent heard mention of it..
[04:29] <dr_willis> iHarp:  this a home pc/lan: or some web  server work/business machine?
[04:30] <iHarp> dr_willis: home
[04:30] <dr_willis> iHarp:  then i doubt if its going to be an issue or worth  the errort to change it.
[04:31] <iHarp> Yeah, it's not high priority. I'm just researching and applying small details. if it's not worth it then I'll just avoid it
[04:31] <dr_willis> and setting a folders executable bit or unsetting it.. is differnt then mounting a device with the 'noexec' flag.... very differnt
[04:34] <iHarp> well, thanks for the bit. Have a good night DR
[04:35] <mindbender1> this while linux thing looks like a joke to me attimes especially when you can't find documentation for something that's meant to be open source. I can assure you that if the progress of these so called core devs are documented somewhere so that the next generation can follow there will be much progress with ubuntu or linux as a whole
[04:35] <mindbender1> *whole
[04:35] <lifneg> hello
[04:35] <lifneg> everyone
[04:36] <dr_willis> open source = the souurce is there and open.. its the  actual code thats the  'defacto' documentation.
[04:36] <dr_willis> hello lifneg
[04:37] <Jagst3r15> mindbender1 dont hate
[04:37] <lifneg> it's the first i play IRC
[04:37] <mindbender1> Jagst3r15: not at all
[04:37] <Jagst3r15> :)
[04:38] <lifneg> where are u ,im in china
[04:38] <mindbender1> why would I.. but if you have suffered at the hands of these devs like I have then you would understand the statement
[04:38] <dr_willis> this channel is world wide lifneg . for ubuntu support. if you want general chit-chat  try the #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[04:38] <Jagst3r15> how have u suffered ?
[04:39]  * dr_willis thinks suffering from devs is also a better topic for the Ot channel..
[04:40] <mindbender1> my modem, my battery, my fan, my important work lost do to crashes...etc
[04:40] <Jagst3r15> i wanna hear the suffering story though :)
[04:40] <bazhang> !ot | Jagst3r15
[04:40] <mindbender1> there's just not enouhg documentation to follow through on these things
[04:40] <bazhang> !cn | lifneg
[04:42] <dr_willis> So the HW makers need to providfe better support/specs/docs to the linux devs....
[04:47] <L3top> ^this
[04:50] <Stretch> hello all
[04:50] <dr_willis> jello
[04:51] <Stretch> sounds tasty i love jello
[04:51] <dr_willis> Untill you learn  whats in it.. ;P  You  got a ubuntu support issue?
[04:51] <Stretch> anyway i was hoping i could get some help
[04:52] <aithox> hi how can i remove software cache , and reinstall ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060156/
[04:52] <Stretch> hopefully you can take it easy on me, I've been wanting to switch for awhile and have finally taken the plunge but having some minor issues right off the bat
[04:53] <Stretch> meaning switch from windows to linux
[04:53] <sahil__> anyone here working on pad.ma? having some doubts
[04:54] <dr_willis> aithox:  you mean clean the apt cache? apt-get clean, and  apt-get auto remove, clear out the cache and removes unneeded packages.
[04:54] <dr_willis> oops.. apt-get autoremove
[04:54] <Stretch> i have searched all over the web and cant seem to get this figured out, but i cant get the wireless to work on the laptop i just installed it on
[04:54] <init[dot]d> aithox, sudo apt-get purge php5
[04:55] <dr_willis> Stretch:  it will depen on the exact chipset in the laptop.
[04:55] <Stretch> gateway mx6450
[04:56] <Stretch> i plugged it into the router and internet works fine, then i did addictional drivers hoping it would fix the issue on its own but no luck
[04:56] <dr_willis> Stretch:  best $8 i spent was on a usb wifi dongle that has full linux support out ofthe box. :) makes it  easy to plug into a problem laptop so i can update/upgrade it. and hopefully use the addational-drivers tool to install any needed 3rd party wifi packages needed
[04:57] <dr_willis> Stretch:  you did update/upgrade the whole system yet?  the fact you can go wired - makes life a lot easier
[04:57] <Stretch> im not even sure where to go to update/upgrade
[04:57] <dr_willis> and its the chipset of the wifi card thats the imporntant bit. :) not the actual make of the laptop
[04:57] <dr_willis> Stretch:  via terminal 'sudo apt-get update' 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[04:57] <Geoffrey2> I installed 12.04 on my laptop using a Wubi install...can I access the data files a saved while in Ubuntu from the Windows OS?
[04:58] <dr_willis> or use the software center
[04:58] <aithox> init[dot]d: sorry, i just checked it even it show that errors it is installed , i've apache working on my system, but how can i clear that errors message.?
[04:58] <abe_> siang
[04:58] <Stretch> should i do both update and upgrade
[04:58] <init[dot]d> aithox, you will have to remove php5
[04:58] <dr_willis> Stretch:  yes.. thats why i gave both commands. ;)
[04:58] <dr_willis> update - updates the LIST of packages to upgrade
[04:58] <abe_> how to install camfrog in ubuntu 12.04
[04:58] <abe_> ???
[04:58] <init[dot]d> have you tried dpkg --reconfigure php5
[04:58] <Kimura_> Hi. I have a few questions, but I don't want to be led on another wild goose chase (already had too many of those). Who are the official staff in this channel?
[04:59] <smw> Kimura_, don't ask for official staff
[04:59] <init[dot]d> Kimura_, noone is we are all volunteers
[04:59] <Kimura_> okay
[04:59] <Stretch> thanks dr. i'm sure i will see you around, i will have to wait till tomorrow to do the update/upgrade
[04:59] <smw> Kimura_, just ask the question
[05:00] <init[dot]d> dr_willis, do you work with git
[05:00] <Kimura_> Nevermind. I've already dealt with too many "volunteers". Bye!
[05:00] <init[dot]d> kbai
[05:00] <dr_willis> init[dot]d:  nope. rarely  need to git
[05:00] <init[dot]d> sad panda
[05:00] <abe_> how to instal camfrog in ubuntu 12.04 ???
[05:00] <dr_willis> theres always paid support... ;)
[05:01] <init[dot]d> ikr
[05:01] <init[dot]d> abe_, have you tried apt-cache search camfrog
[05:01] <dr_willis> !info camfrog
[05:01] <dr_willis> abe_:  so assume no one knows what camfrog is...
[05:02] <dr_willis>  if it has a homepage.. it should have some downloads, or install docs..
[05:02] <xiangjianfeng> #ubuntu-cn
[05:02] <snigil> hello all
[05:03] <init[dot]d> hi
[05:06] <Geoffrey2> I recently got a new laptop that came preinstalled with Windows 7...I installed Ubuntu inside Windows 7 using Wubi, letting me dual boot....then I went into Ubuntu, and copied a bunch of data files from the old computer's HD..I'm wondering if I can access any of that information when I boot to Windows instead of Ubuntu, and where I might find the folders?
[05:08] <dr_willis> Geoffrey2:  wubi stores stuff in a special hard drive image file. Im not sure of any way windows can mount that file. perhaps with some of the ext3 exploreer tools out for windows.
[05:09] <dr_willis> the host windows drive IS accessable from wubi in some special location on the / of the system.
[05:09] <dr_willis> so you could boot the wubi install. and copy datga to the windows drive
[05:11] <Geoffrey2> dr_willis, ah, thanks, that'll probably work just as well....
[05:11] <dr_willis> or just use ubuntone account to have stuff stored on the cloud
[05:17] <aithox> on removing php5 i got this errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060201/ how can i completely remove it. eg software cache..?
[05:18] <eliotn> hi
[05:18] <eliotn> how do I mount my ubuntu installation
[05:18] <eliotn> because it installed but it won't mount the ubuntu partition
[05:18] <eliotn> says it can't find it
[05:19] <eliotn> so I can't boot ubuntu D:
[05:19] <rypervenche> SuperLag: bravo
[05:19] <rypervenche> oops
[05:19] <rinzler> on the 11.10 install disk, how can I start a non graphical installer?
[05:19] <nischay> Hi :)
[05:22] <dr_willis> rinzler:  the desktop cd does not have  the text based insttaller. only the alternative installer cd does
[05:23] <rinzler> dr_willis: Thanks!
[05:24] <SecretFire> is it easy to set up a ubuntu based network for a very small company, say 25 employees
[05:24] <dr_willis> i think in the next relase they are talkking about having both be  on all the cds. but not looked at the 12.10 release yet.
[05:24] <dr_willis> shouldent be too hard SecretFire
[05:24] <dr_willis> depends on what work they are doing
[05:24] <init[dot]d> SecretFire, very
[05:25] <SecretFire> there is different levels
[05:25] <rinzler> dr_willis: that would be nice...
[05:25] <SecretFire> for example, the management have more privilidges
[05:25] <dr_willis> one router and  25 pcs :) .. take a a few hrs id guess.. setting up users.. may  be harder depending on the details.
[05:26] <SecretFire> ok got it
[05:26] <SecretFire> thats what i thought it took
[05:26] <dr_willis> dozens of ways you could set things up.. its all in the details..
[05:26] <init[dot]d> ^^
[05:26] <SecretFire> does it have to be a certain type of router
[05:27] <dr_willis> about any router should be able to handle just 25 pcs
[05:27] <SecretFire> ok
[05:27] <dr_willis> you will need a few hubs i imagine. :) unless they are wireless pcs
[05:27] <SecretFire> no they aren't
[05:27] <SecretFire> accer aspire's
[05:27] <dr_willis> saw a 32 port  hub the other day for $5 at a rummage sale. ;p
[05:28] <LearnToTroll> hi
[05:28] <SecretFire> dr_willis : what does the hub do
[05:28] <[deXter]> And here I am, throwing away a 32 port switch because I've no use for it..
[05:28] <dr_willis> lets you plug in more pcs...
[05:28] <dr_willis> most routers for soho use have like 4 ports..
[05:29] <dr_willis> each port to a 4 or higher port  hub/switch to let you put more then 4 into the router.
[05:30] <nandinho_UJS> imagen all people linvins on the peace
[05:30] <dr_willis> a single  hub/switch with 16+ ports would make life easier. :)
[05:30] <SecretFire> i see
[05:30] <dr_willis> may be easie to just put wifi dongles/cards  on the pcs :)
[05:30] <SecretFire> so for 25 pcs ideally i would need a 25+ hub
[05:31] <dr_willis> depends on the office layout.
[05:31] <SecretFire> cisco adapters?
[05:31] <dr_willis> 4,8,16,32    alays a even #.
[05:31] <SecretFire> I see
[05:31] <dr_willis> 2 x 16's would work. :) depends on the router
[05:31] <SecretFire> can you recommend one?
[05:31] <SecretFire> (router)
[05:32] <dr_willis> I only use the standard ones you get at Bestbuy or other stores...
[05:32] <dr_willis> it all depends on your needs and budget.
[05:32] <SecretFire> ok
[05:32] <LearnToTroll> do any of you guys know alot about partitioning?
[05:33] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:  ask a more specific question and see.. most of the people in here know about partioning drives
[05:33] <dr_willis> Gparted live cd. is the tool  ii tend to use for such tasks
[05:33] <LearnToTroll> well i know nothing about partitioning and how to properly do it
[05:34] <LearnToTroll> like if i gave my system specs could someone give me a reasonable partition order
[05:34] <dr_willis> i read of the wikipedia page on disk partioning   may be good starting point so you learn some of the terms.
[05:34] <LearnToTroll> and what type each 1 needs to be like with ext4 ext3 etc.
[05:34] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:  it depens on the task of the pc. and if you are dual booting.
[05:34] <sahil__> anyone here working on pad.ma? having some doubts
[05:35] <qdb> seems brasero cannot import existing files, it thinks disk is closed? how can i check that for sure? i did not close it.
[05:35] <dr_willis> common layout. 4 primary partitions  (windows) (linux /) (linux /home) (swap partition)
[05:35] <init[dot]d> and what is pad.ma?
[05:35] <bazhang> sahil__, how does that relate to ubuntu
[05:35] <LearnToTroll> Well, im doing gaming(runescape) and windows 7 got infected with tons of viruses so i just went ahead and made ubuntu my primary OS
[05:36] <[deXter]> Congrats. :)
[05:36] <sahil__> its an educational site that allows work on videos...not just watchin/uploading,but adding annotations with each frame,location etc...
[05:36] <init[dot]d> obviously sahil_ is a bot or troll
[05:36] <bazhang> sahil__, so no connection to ubuntu support then
[05:36] <init[dot]d> and needs das boot
[05:36] <sahil__> having some trouble with pandora_client
[05:36] <bazhang> init[dot]d, thats uncalled for
[05:36] <sahil__> no i am not ppl!
[05:37] <LearnToTroll> i did just go ahead and throw something together with my partitioning and i did my root(/) with about 50 gb, my swap with 7gb (since i have 3gb of ram) and the rest of the space went to my home/
[05:37] <bazhang> sahil__, so its a pandora issue
[05:37] <LearnToTroll> how does that partition setup sound to you guys?
[05:37] <qdb> seems brasero cannot import existing files, it thinks disk is closed? how can i check that for sure? i did not close it. you can suggest a free windows program
[05:37] <init[dot]d> bazhang, I apologize I will stick to letting you be the one to insult others
[05:38] <bazhang> init[dot]d, please stop.
[05:38] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:  50gb for / is a bit large.. ive rarely managed to go more then 20gb with my / :) but /home is the big data hog normally
[05:38] <[deXter]> LearnToTroll, 50 GB is too much for root, and so is a 7GB swap
[05:38] <sahil__> client side programming is being done by us on ipython ,in ubuntu
[05:38] <sahil__> yes bazhang
[05:39] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:  how big is the hard drive in total?
[05:39] <LearnToTroll> 320.1gb
[05:39] <LearnToTroll> i read somewhere online that your supposed to double up on your swap for how much RAM you have
[05:39] <LearnToTroll> is that true?
[05:39] <[deXter]> LearnToTroll, that was the old traditional rule of thumb
[05:39] <dr_willis> so your / is a bit large.. 20gb would be fine. you may or may not need that much swap. but it wont hurt.
[05:40] <LearnToTroll> oh, that must be the rule for swap not RAM right?
[05:40] <LearnToTroll> cause arent they 2 different things?
[05:40] <[deXter]> LearnToTroll, These days they recommend your swap size to be equal to or maybe 10% more than your RAM size
[05:40] <qdb>  seems my problem http://askubuntu.com/questions/28044/why-is-it-not-possible-to-burn-a-multisession-dvd-using-brasero
[05:40] <dr_willis> swap = ram + a bit more - these days.. to allow you to use the Hibernate/suspend features.
[05:41] <CellTech> How do I sign in?
[05:41] <dr_willis> CellTech:  Huh?
[05:42] <LearnToTroll> Like right now im using Wine to launch some windows programs. Is that a smart idea?
[05:42] <CellTech> I registered my nickname. How do I sign in and verify myself
[05:42] <LearnToTroll> Because im gradually learning the ubuntu OS
[05:42] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:  wine runs windows apps...  if you need them..
[05:42] <dr_willis> !register | CellTech
[05:43] <CellTech> I registered it already. But to sign in.. How do I do that?
[05:43] <qdb> so brasero & ubuntu made a dvd of mine quite waste! if it cannot burn multisession dvds, it should then say about that with big letters )
[05:43] <LearnToTroll> Sorry if im a bit noob, but can you dualboot 2 linux distributions?
[05:44] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:  you can.. but ive rarely had the need to do so.
[05:44] <LearnToTroll> Im kind of wanting to try out Mint Lisa
[05:44] <dr_willis> i wouldent bother with Mint..
[05:44] <LearnToTroll> ahh
[05:44] <LearnToTroll> Isnt it for older computers?
[05:44] <dr_willis> no idea.. i dont bother with mint...
[05:44] <dr_willis> older pcs - i use Lubuntu
[05:44] <dr_willis> !lubuntu
[05:45] <CellTech> Cool. they all say my password is wrong. I think I know what I picked
[05:45] <LearnToTroll> I've got a pretty old windows computer with 120mb of RAM and its running Windows ME what do you recommend putting on that to make it semi-functional again
[05:46] <Sino> kalhmera :-)
[05:46] <Toasty27> lubuntu
[05:46] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:   with that little ram.. id  just set it up as a console only/ssh box. ;)
[05:46] <dr_willis> or find moar ram
[05:47] <LearnToTroll> I'm sorry i have no idea what that is.  Is that like only commands?
[05:47] <LearnToTroll> DOS?
[05:47] <LearnToTroll> haha
[05:47] <dr_willis> 120mb of ram.. is .. err.. tiny.
[05:47] <LearnToTroll> yeah i know
[05:47] <LearnToTroll> i havnt used it in years
[05:47] <Toasty27> Does anyone have experience dual-booting Windows and Ubuntu 12.04 on an EFI system?
[05:47] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:  does it have a network card?
[05:48] <LearnToTroll> No, it has to be hooked up with an ethernet
[05:48] <LearnToTroll> is that what makes it like a laptop where it can be connected wirelessly?
[05:48] <dr_willis> err... a network card.. is ethernet...
[05:48] <LearnToTroll> O
[05:48] <LearnToTroll> Sorry.
[05:48] <LearnToTroll> Yes it does haha.
[05:48] <dr_willis> that low end a box. id try, tinycorelinux,puppylinux, or perhaps lubuntu.
[05:49] <dr_willis> or some console only setup.
[05:49] <LearnToTroll> I've heard of some people using old computers like that with linux for a server
[05:49] <Toasty27> Well
[05:49] <LearnToTroll> Is that a good idea?
[05:49] <dr_willis> 120mb ram - it wont do much serving.
[05:49] <Toasty27> I dunno what kind of services you'd run on it
[05:49] <Toasty27> maybe DHCP
[05:49] <Toasty27> but definitely not routing or anything
[05:49] <LearnToTroll> I honestly don't know what a server does
[05:50] <dr_willis> and if you are lucky its a 100 speed network card
[05:50] <Toasty27> A server serves stuff
[05:50] <Toasty27> :P
[05:50] <LearnToTroll> Is it something that serves web pages?
[05:50] <Toasty27> It can, if it's a web server
[05:50] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:  i doubt if you have much of a need for that low end box then,. other then perhaps to let you ssh into your main box.
[05:50] <Toasty27> or it can serve IP addresses with DHCP
[05:51] <Toasty27> or host a VPN server for remote connections
[05:51] <LearnToTroll> SSH into my main computer? like an extra storage place tht is wireless?
[05:51] <LearnToTroll> and i can just move stuff there and get it from there when i need it?
[05:51] <dr_willis> I have biggeer machines then that.. in the garrage for this week ends rummage sale...
[05:51] <dr_willis> !ssh
[05:51] <Toasty27> !apache
[05:51] <LearnToTroll> I've used SSH on a jailbroken iphone
[05:51] <Like> I love you have a commission
[05:52] <LearnToTroll> but other than that
[05:52] <LearnToTroll> thats it.
[05:52] <bazhang> Like, wrong place for that
[05:52] <Like> Y
[05:52] <Like> Gm
[05:52] <bazhang> !ot | Like
[05:53] <LearnToTroll> I'm lost.
[05:53] <LearnToTroll> What did you say i could maybe do?
[05:53] <LearnToTroll> I just don't want to see it go to waste.
[05:53] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:  use it for command line tools...
[05:54] <dr_willis> or irc. :)
[05:54] <LearnToTroll> I switch to a different computer just to talk??
[05:54] <Toasty27> What processor does it have?
[05:54] <LearnToTroll> I can check
[05:54] <Toasty27> Pentium 2/3 etc
[05:54] <LearnToTroll> but i dont know.
[05:54] <Toasty27> If it's anything older than a Pentium 4, it's probably not worth keeping
[05:55] <dr_willis> its going to be using more electricty then its worth.. ;)
[05:55] <SecretFire> I am having trouble opening a 7z file, do I need to run the command sudo apt-get install 7z?
[05:55] <Toasty27> I started collecting so much old hardware that I had to set a minimum requirement in specs
[05:55] <Toasty27> At least PGA478 socket and DDR ram
[05:55] <dr_willis> SecretFire:  i dont think thats the coorect binary name..  but theres a 7zip package in the repos
[05:55] <dr_willis> !7zip
[05:56] <Toasty27> SecretFire: install pZip
[05:56] <LearnToTroll> Lol, i don't think i could ever learn half of the stuff you guys are talking about
[05:56] <SecretFire> ark didn't work
[05:56] <dr_willis> apt-cache search 7zip      may show it..
[05:56] <LearnToTroll> I hardly know how to use a terminal.
[05:56] <LearnToTroll> besides the sudo apt-get thing
[05:56] <LearnToTroll> what is a good place to learn about Linux more?
[05:56] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:  time to learn then.
[05:56] <SecretFire> pzip?
[05:56] <dr_willis> !terminal
[05:56] <dr_willis> !info p7zip
[05:57] <SecretFire> ok
[05:57] <Toasty27> whoops
[05:57] <Toasty27> forgot the 7 :B
[05:57] <dr_willis> 7zip in linux has no gui tool. :) the standard archive tools will use it. if its installed
[05:57] <SecretFire> yea i noticed that
[05:57] <dr_willis> !info unp
[05:57] <LearnToTroll> I was looking at the software center and there is an ebook on there for like 30 dollars, is that a good place to start?
[05:58] <LearnToTroll> Or is there anything for Free?
[05:58] <SecretFire> has anyone in here gotten OpenMW to run in kubuntu?
[05:58] <bazhang> !manual | LearnToTroll
[05:58] <dr_willis> tons of free docs out there.
[05:58] <bazhang> !rute | LearnToTroll
[05:58] <bazhang> LearnToTroll, start with those
[05:58] <dr_willis> the TLDP site is good for old skool info. ;)
[05:59] <smw> LearnToTroll, http://cli.learncodethehardway.org/book/
[05:59] <dr_willis> half of my linux knowledge is from old old old docs.. i read years ago
[05:59] <smw> LearnToTroll, that is a good primer to using the linux command line
[05:59] <LearnToTroll> I tried downloading and i got this popup
[05:59] <Toasty27> most of my linux knowledge is just from researching how to complete specific tasks
[05:59] <LearnToTroll> Try saving to a different location.
[05:59] <Like> I was it was what is that
[05:59] <LearnToTroll> Try saving to a different location.
[06:00] <LearnToTroll> grr its not putting it all in the message
[06:00] <dr_willis> LearnToTroll:   so dave it to  differnt location.. ;)
[06:00] <dr_willis> save..
[06:00] <Toasty27> dr_willis: Know anything about dual-booting with EFI?
[06:00] <dr_willis> we dont know your setup.. so dont know the context of the message
[06:00] <LearnToTroll> its not giving me any save as box
[06:00] <SecretFire> ark did not work again  Im getting this : Failed to locate program 7z in PATH.
[06:01] <smw> dr_willis, although I did not learn from it originally, http://cli.learncodethehardway.org/book/ taught me something. (specifically pushd popd)
[06:01] <LearnToTroll> or option to do that
[06:01] <dr_willis> I dont have any efi/mac or other weird hardware Toasty27
[06:01] <LearnToTroll> i click on download now and it just pops up that message
[06:01] <Toasty27> ASUS N53SV laptop, trying to get 12.04 64-bit and Windows 7 64 bit installed
[06:01] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[06:01] <SecretFire> Toasty27 : side by side?
[06:01] <dr_willis> smw:  :) Oreialys Using Bash book. is a must have. ;)
[06:01] <ShapeShifter499> I have questions about chroot..... chroot is like the sandbox on a Apple iOS device right?  or am I thinking about it wrong?
[06:01] <Toasty27> SecretFire: Yes
[06:01] <SecretFire> I had a setup like that
[06:01] <smw> dr_willis, :-)
[06:01] <SecretFire> I hate windows though
[06:02] <Toasty27> I do too. :P
[06:02] <Toasty27> But I need it for a few things, unfortunately
[06:02] <smw> dr_willis, I suggest taking a look at lthw. I read it to evaluate giving out to others, and I was impressed
[06:02] <SecretFire> yea
[06:02] <Toasty27> I could just go back to MBR, but I'd rather try getting GPT and EFI working
[06:02] <SecretFire> is it possible to do a 3 way side by side with mac, win 7, and ubuntu
[06:02] <LearnToTroll> Willis, it just pops up a message save in a different location it doesnt even give me a windows explorer looking box to choose where to download it
[06:02] <Toasty27> Yes
[06:02] <ShapeShifter499> I'm just wondering because I tried to chroot ubuntu on my jailbroken iphone and found out some stuff
[06:02] <smw> dr_willis, didn't learn much, but it taught me the proper usage of pushd and popd which before reading, I thought were stupid commands :-)
[06:02] <Toasty27> I did it with a Gigabyte mobo
[06:03] <SecretFire> mobo?
[06:03] <Toasty27> motherboard
[06:03] <SecretFire> oh
[06:03] <Toasty27> hackintosh. :P
[06:03] <SecretFire> Ive heard of that
[06:03] <SecretFire> hackintosh
[06:03] <bazhang> !ot | SecretFire Toasty27
[06:03] <Toasty27> First time I did it, it took me three days. But it was a successful triple boot setup with vanilla OSX
[06:03] <Toasty27> no hackls
[06:03] <Toasty27> hacks*
[06:04] <Toasty27> whoops sorry
[06:04] <bazhang> Toasty27, thats enough
[06:04] <SecretFire> understood
[06:05] <mi3> hello!
[06:06] <ShapeShifter499> *sigh*  why do most of my questions to linux channels go unanswered
[06:06] <mi3> can I get a screenshot of the font appearance window ? I have messed up my font settings, and I would like to refer to a screenshot to bring it back to default. Thanks in advance.
[06:06] <mi3> ShapeShifter499: really ?
[06:07] <ShapeShifter499> I'll repost......... I have questions about chroot..... chroot is like the sandbox on a Apple iOS device right?  or am I thinking about it wrong?
[06:07] <LearnToTroll> Somebody said yes to your question shape
[06:07] <LearnToTroll> I seen it a while ago.
[06:08] <mi3> LearnToTroll: hello, which version of ubuntu do you use ?
[06:08] <ShapeShifter499> LearnToTroll, well my connection did drop out a minute after I posted, I could have missed it
[06:09] <ShapeShifter499> ok with that... since my device is running a Mac OS X like kernel (I think?)  it wouldn't be possible to chroot ubuntu arm on there unless I recompiled all of ubuntu arm right?
[06:09] <urlwolf> is there any difference in font rendering between ubuntu and sabayon? I have the exact same settings in kde > fonts on both, buth ubuntu looks better
[06:11] <Kartagis> is it normal that there is no alt-tab when cairo-dock is running?
[06:11] <dr_willis> alt tab woud  be a feature of the window manager, not the dock i imagine
[06:12] <dr_willis> compiz has differnt plugins to handle alt-tabbing that an be disabled/set to differnt ways of doing  things.
[06:12] <Jordan_U> ShapeShifter499: You can't chroot from GNU/Linux to OSX or iOS.
[06:13] <dr_willis> ccsm tool can tweak the compiz settings
[06:13] <BEAR44> Hello
[06:13] <mi3> can I get a screenshot of the font appearance window ? I have messed up my font settings, and I would like to refer to a screenshot to bring it back to default. Thanks in advance.
[06:14] <BEAR44> Can you see what I'm typing
[06:14] <BEAR44> ?
[06:14] <nischay> Hi :) I am Nischay from India I need a tool which indicate the capslock key status i am using ubuntu 12.04 on dell inspirion laptop
[06:14] <dr_willis> BEAR44:  yes.
[06:15] <BEAR44> This is my first time using IRC.  I appreciate the help.  I just have not been getting any resonses
[06:15] <BEAR44> *responses
[06:15] <urlwolf> what is ubuntu doing different than other distros in terms of font rendering?
[06:15] <dr_willis> nischay:  theres some indicator-applets ive seen listed at the askubuntu.com site  that have that feature. show an icon in the top panel with the status of the special keys
[06:15] <sniggles> when I try to install 12.04: I get to the welcome screen. I tried the 1st and 2nd options. For both, the green light on the cd drive blinks for a while and then quits. I think it has something to do with my Nvidia card?
[06:17] <dr_willis> sniggles:  1st/second?  You mean the 'Install, or Try Ubuntu' options?
[06:18] <sniggles> yes both
[06:18] <dr_willis> BEAR44: ask an actual support question and see who responds. ;)
[06:19] <dr_willis> X is allreayd running whenit asks those questions.. so i dont thinkits  an nvidia card issue. You could try the nomodeset option anyway if you wanted to.
[06:19] <dr_willis> !nomodeset
[06:20] <sniggles> plz help pangolin wont install
[06:20] <sti> hi guys
[06:20] <__Tom> Hi
[06:20] <init[dot]d> sniggles, wazzup
[06:21] <sti> whats the difference of YLMF OS and Windows?
[06:21] <sniggles> the cursor just stays there blinking on the screen adn the disk drive quits after 2 minutes or so
[06:21] <nischay> i am using ubuntu 12.04 form its intial release now i am bored with its looks is there is any way to change themes colors and icons
[06:21] <sniggles> i waited 35 minutes for something to happen
[06:22] <dr_willis> !theme
[06:22] <dr_willis> sniggles:  you did verify the md5 of the iso file you downloaded? could be a bad disk.
[06:22] <chamunks> Is there any point in using the logitech c920 over the c910 http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/logitech-logitech-hd-pro-webcam-c920-960-000765/10189777.aspx?path=e90c1a4cafdd27b7466a91356bf89790en02
[06:23] <sti> whats the difference of YLMF OS and Windows?
[06:23] <__Tom> chamunks, no there is not
[06:23] <sniggles> ok, I did the md5sum
[06:23] <sti> whats the difference of YLMF OS and Windows?
[06:23] <sniggles> it works
[06:23] <chamunks> The c920 supports cam based h264 encoding but apparently unless your in windows running the logitech software
[06:23] <dr_willis> sti:  how is that related to 'Ubuntu support"
[06:23] <chamunks> but apparently the c910 doesnt
[06:23] <jaho> salut a y des francais ici ??
[06:23] <blackshirt> ylmf was linux
[06:23] <sti> :)
[06:23] <chamunks> __Tom, what makes you say that?
[06:23] <sti> i thought you would know :)
[06:24] <sniggles> can I paste terminal output?
[06:24] <mi3> can I get a screenshot of the font appearance window ? I have messed up my font settings, and I would like to refer to a screenshot to bring it back to default. Thanks in advance.
[06:24] <bazhang> sniggles, to pastebin
[06:24] <bazhang> chamunks, how is that relate d to ubuntu support
[06:24] <sniggles> drew@debian:~$ md5sum D
[06:24] <sniggles> Desktop/   Documents/ Downloads/
[06:24] <sniggles> drew@debian:~$ md5sum Downloads/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[06:24] <sniggles> 128f0c16f4734c420b0185a492d92e52  Downloads/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[06:24] <sniggles> drew@debian:~$ md5sum /dev/dvd
[06:24] <sniggles> md5sum: /dev/dvd: Input/output error
[06:24] <FloodBot1> sniggles: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:24] <chamunks> bazhang, because i'm not using window
[06:24] <dr_willis> sniggles:  it may be /dev/sr0
[06:24] <chamunks> and I wand to use this on linux
[06:24] <tkkaisla> why when i editing file in ubuntu makes allways second file with ~ character end of filename?
[06:24] <sniggles> u said paste
[06:25] <bazhang> sniggles, pastebin
[06:25] <sti> trigo bayot!
[06:25] <dr_willis> tkkaisla:  the editor has a 'make backups' option enabled
[06:25] <sniggles> where is my paste bin
[06:25] <nischay> thanx :)
[06:25] <chamunks> bazhang,  If you read the message i posted about not being in windows for the logitech software i figured it would have alluded to that.
[06:25] <__Tom> chamunks, there just is not much of a difference in quality.  Except one is more expensice
[06:25] <sti> trigo bayot!
[06:25] <sniggles> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060256/
[06:25] <bazhang> chamunks, thats hardware. nothing to do with ubuntu support  try ##hardware
[06:25] <sniggles> ok sruy
[06:26] <chamunks> bazhang, well actually if the software supports handling the h264 output of the camera than I'm happy
[06:26] <sniggles> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1060258/
[06:26] <chamunks> Otherwise its a hardware thing and clearly there is no discernable difference except I dont care if i get another microphone.
[06:26] <mi3> gvgdsfgsdfd
[06:26] <init[dot]d> sadfsadf
[06:26] <init[dot]d> :P
[06:26] <chamunks> bazhang, Otherwise its a hardware thing and clearly there is no discernable difference except I dont care if i get another microphone.
[06:26] <bazhang> mi3, init[dot]d not here
[06:27] <mi3> bazhang: yeah ok.
[06:27] <init[dot]d> bazhang, you love playin mommy huh
[06:27] <tkkaisla> tyhanks dr_willis
[06:27] <tkkaisla> thanks*
[06:27] <chamunks> anyone who is not making assumptions and telling me to buzz off who could possibly tell me if having the camera do the video processing before ubuntu sees it is even worth it?
[06:28] <dr_willis> chamunks:  do you evne know if the cams are supported by linux?
[06:28] <dr_willis> many web cams dont work at all in linux
[06:28] <chamunks> dr_willis, apparently it does.
[06:28] <chamunks> according to some searching
[06:28] <chamunks> I wasnt born yesterday.
[06:28] <chamunks> sorry
[06:28] <dr_willis> go with the one thats older and been out longer.. it should have better support
[06:29] <chamunks> dr_willis, well im kind of privy to the concept of letting the cam do the encoding but if ubuntu just ignores it than its a clear choice.
[06:29] <dr_willis> i doubt if thats more then a marketing gimmic anyway..
[06:30] <nocturnal_> why does xinit start while startx goes to a black screen?
[06:31] <chamunks> dr_willis, well the specs say it has an encoding chip in it.  So its streaming it from the cam pre processed thats not much of a gimmic if ubuntu handles it correctly it should theoretically reduce alot of work post processing if doing video captures.
[06:32] <chamunks> Could anyone point me in a direction forum wise where I could maybe post the question to get a more difinitive answer?
[06:32] <chamunks> Most effectively.
[06:33] <dr_willis> the Video4Linux site/bords.. woul dbe my guess..
[06:33] <ranched> chamunks what do you need help with
[06:33] <chamunks> ranched, im looking to find out if theres a point in me looking to buy the logitech c920 over the c910
[06:34] <chamunks> ranched, my reasoning is the c920 has been stated to have a h264 encoding chip in the cam thus outsourcing the encodeing to the camera.
[06:34] <bkerensa> chamunks: We do not offer advice on purchasing electronics here.
[06:35] <chamunks> ranched, The c910 does not.  The issue is that if ubuntu cant / wont accept the stream from the camera like the windows variant of the logitech
[06:35] <chamunks> bkerensa, i'm not asking about... if you dont know what youre talking about why are you talking.
[06:35] <ranched> chamunks: not of the chips in a device like that will come close to x264 from ffmpeg.
[06:35] <rymate1234> Okk guys
[06:35] <bkerensa> !offtopic | chamunks
[06:35] <chamunks> bkerensa, its not offtopic
[06:35] <sniggles> im gonna burn new cd with wodim just to check
[06:35] <rymate1234> I'm trying to follow the quickly 12.04 user guide
[06:35] <chamunks> if you have been following what i've been asking
[06:36] <chamunks> you're clearly not
[06:36] <rymate1234> where da fu is my GtkHBox
[06:36] <chamunks> im asking if the damn software in ubuntu
[06:36] <chamunks> will accept the stream from the damn camera
[06:36] <chamunks> if it wont
[06:36] <chamunks> thers no point in the difference.
[06:36] <chamunks> I dont see how this is off topic.
[06:36] <sniggles> dont curse the software!
[06:37] <sniggles> or the hardware!
[06:37] <chamunks> This channel is getting pushy.  Damn
[06:37] <chamunks> the ubuntu community used to be fairly friendly.
[06:37] <bkerensa> chamunks: There is no guarantee that a cam will support Ubuntu or vice versa since there is not a certification process for webcams
[06:37] <dr_willis> the Video4Linux site would be the place to look......
[06:38] <chamunks> ranched, fair enough so you figure the difference between pre processed and just letting my cpu do the lifting with ffmpeg is moot.
[06:38] <rymate1234> also, the glade menu bar doesn't integrate with the unity interface
[06:38] <ranched> chamunks: I do it that way. I have a few tuts on youtube about the subject
[06:38] <bkerensa> !justask | rymate1234
[06:39] <rymate1234> i did just ask
[06:39] <ranched> chamunks: then again I do a lot of work for ffmpeg =)
[06:39] <rymate1234> :)
[06:39] <chamunks> ranched, you wouldnt be interested in pm'ing me the channel?
[06:39] <dr_willis> id bet the video4lin stuff would take the h264 stuff and just turn it back in to whatever normal output is for  video devices.. so would add more cpu load..
[06:39] <rymate1234> I'll do it in one line
[06:39] <chamunks> ranched, I was doing a bit of re encoding by the guidance from #ffmpeg I believe a few days ago.
[06:39] <dr_willis> bbl
[06:40] <chamunks> I built a batch re-encoding bash script.
[06:40] <rymate1234> I'm trying to follow the quickly 12.04 user guide and I think something is up with glade. There's no GtkHBox and the menu bar ain't in the unity panel.
[06:40] <rymate1234> I have tried restarting glade
[06:41] <bkerensa> rymate1234: I know there is a bug currently occuring in 12.10 but I have not heard of this in 12.04... Do you have all updates?
[06:42] <rymate1234> I have one update
[06:42] <Kartagis> hi
[06:42] <rymate1234> for the unity video lens
[06:42] <LenovoG470> hello guys,
[06:42] <bkerensa> rymate1234: If you open the unity dash and search for "glade" does more than one glade show up in the results?
[06:43] <Kartagis> I updated to 12.04 two days ago, and I have nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> in my /etc/resolv.conf. how come?
[06:43] <rymate1234> ye
[06:43] <rymate1234> 2 glades
[06:43] <rymate1234> wtf
[06:43] <LenovoG470> can anyone lead me to a channel about Ubuntu 11.10 + Skype, much obliged.
[06:43] <bkerensa> Kartagis: http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[06:44] <bkerensa> Kartagis: there is a level of dns caching that occurs to speed up resolving of frequent domains
[06:44] <Ecto> Hello everyone
[06:44] <pandaubuntu_> hi, can anyone tell me where is the configuration file of gnome-shell-extension (that says which extensions are active)
[06:44] <Ecto> Anyone ever used ubuntu satanic edition
[06:45] <Kartagis> bkerensa: what if I need to change my DNS from time to time? what file do I need to edit?
[06:45] <bazhang> Ecto, thats not supported here
[06:45] <pandaubuntu_> Ecto: i used it
[06:45] <pandaubuntu_> but i don't like groove metal :)
[06:45] <rymate1234> bkerensa, the glade that was opened by "quickly design" is 3.12.1
[06:45] <rymate1234> wat do
[06:45] <bkerensa> rymate1234: might want to file a bug on glade
[06:46] <bkerensa> rymate1234: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[06:47] <bkerensa> Kartagis: you could disable dnsmasq but you can still set nameservers in network-manager which dnsmaq will use to do lookups
[06:47] <qqq> i built the android emulator code, but the sd card is not detected. can anyone tell me why ?
[06:47] <bkerensa> Kartagis: dnsmasq just does some caching but it still does look ups
[06:47] <Tripppy> Hi, users. Any ideas why, when sharing /media with samba only 1/3 partitions are browseable.
[06:48] <rymate1234> apparently its not a bug
[06:49] <LenovoG470> Hi, can we ask questions on Skype per Ubuntu 11.10 here
[06:49] <rymate1234> 3.12.1 has no GtkHBox or GtkVBox
[06:49] <rymate1234> Just GtkBox
[06:49] <rymate1234> O_o
[06:50] <bkerensa> !justask | LenovoG470
[06:52] <rbp> Hello. Just upgraded from Ubuntu 10 -> 11 and screen is now scrambled. Can vaguely make out icons on left. Any ideas?
[06:52] <rymate1234> kk I solved my problem
[06:52] <rbp> !patience
[06:55] <Kartagis> bkerensa: thanks
[06:55] <Kartagis> one more q: is there a way to clear ff cache off cli?
[06:55] <BotaniCar> hi, i'm trying to get some free disk space, is it safe to delete content of my /usr/src/* ( http://pastebin.com/SC3NP4N1 ) ?
[06:57] <LenovoG470> Hi, which additional ATI drivers to install in Ubuntu 11.10, the post-release or the normal one
[06:57] <bkerensa> Kartagis: you could use Bleachbit
[06:57] <arulmozhi> i'm trying to access parallel port by loading a module. When i write to the device file (sudo echo -n a > /dev/parp ), it shows no errors. but when i read from it (sudo cat /dev/parp), it shows a junk charecter. HELP!!!
[06:58] <Parthyz> Hi anyone install Xen on Ubuntu 10.10 ? Xen support is there on Ubuntu 10.10 ?
[06:58] <Kartagis> !info bleachbit
[06:59] <rbp> Problem must be with unity + compiz. Login with ubuntu classic + no effects works fine.
[07:07] <Kartagis> and, dropbox stalls for me at 99%. any ideas why?,
[07:08] <bkerensa> Kartagis: Not specifically but I have not personally had much luck with Dropbox... Their platform is not totally open source so there is no telling whats wrong.
[07:08] <Arash> Hi :-)
[07:09] <jayar> i cant change the motd for when i login via ssh
[07:10] <cowslapper> Hello
[07:11] <bkerensa> jayar: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/change-ssh-welcome-banner-on-ubuntu/
[07:11] <jayar> i just did that
[07:11] <jayar> it just goes back
[07:12] <Arash> try doing that on console1
[07:12] <Arash> using control+alt+f1
[07:15] <ivosq> anyone got a tip on a good program to use for .csv files, libreOffice Calc does not really  do the job
[07:15] <ivosq> ?
[07:16] <jayar> openoffice works for me
[07:16] <ivosq> oh yeah forgot about that, thanks
[07:16] <ivosq> ^^
[07:17] <Arash> ~ ~
[07:17] <jayar> >>
[07:17] <Arash> <<
[07:17] <jayar> that time a night, eh? :)
[07:17] <Arash> no0h :D
[07:17] <bazhang> !ot
[07:18] <ivosq> that time in the morning ;)
[07:18] <Arash> guys anybody know anything about setting a WAF
[07:19] <Arash> on Apache ?
[07:19] <bazhang> Arash, tried #httpd yet?
[07:19] <Arash> yes
[07:19] <Arash> but wanna know how to set something like modsecurity
[07:21] <bkerensa> Arash: How to install it?
[07:22] <bkerensa> Arash: http://www.grosseosterhues.com/2011/07/enabling-mod-security-protection-in-apache2-on-ubuntu/
[07:22] <Arash> y
[07:22] <Arash> thank you :)
[07:22] <snigil> ？
[07:24] <fidel> ahoi
[07:25] <cowslapper> hej
[07:25] <StarryNight> hi
[07:26] <dulynoted> question
[07:26] <dulynoted> how many are familiar with rtkit-dae?
[07:26] <loostro> agoodm: hi
[07:26] <dulynoted> noted
[07:26] <dulynoted> hello
[07:27] <dulynoted> gooday rather good later evening
[07:27] <loostro> :)
[07:27] <loostro> i my upgrade from 10.10 to 12.04 is finally finished
[07:27] <loostro> after.. hmm.. 12 hours or so :P
[07:27] <dulynoted> i ask because it was implemented towards my machine and was intriguing pretty much
[07:28] <dulynoted> im running slacko as my machine is fscked atm and in transistion
[07:28] <StarryNight> 10.10 is done
[07:28] <dulynoted> puppy dog linux
[07:28] <dulynoted> i highly recommend it actually
[07:28] <bazhang> !ot | dulynoted
[07:28] <dulynoted> wait
[07:29] <dulynoted> im asking a ubuntu question
[07:29] <dulynoted> about your rtkit
[07:29] <bazhang> dulynoted, whats the question
[07:30] <dulynoted> bazhang
[07:30] <dulynoted> i was devoiced from ##linux but you came here?
[07:30] <joe_> ubuntu
[07:30] <bazhang> dulynoted, do you have an actual support question?
[07:31] <dulynoted> ok I am not going to be fooled and banned from freenode again
[07:31] <dulynoted> as this was the series of events last time
[07:32] <dulynoted> as everyone knows resetting your mac and reconnecting to freenode is easy but that isn't the point
[07:32] <dulynoted> if I am banned I stay banned
[07:35] <snigil> hi
[07:35] <dr_willis> hello
[07:35] <snigil> hello dr_willis
[07:36] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[07:37] <dr_willis> first time ive seen the floodbot trigger ubottu.....
[07:37] <vampirnata> anyone here know much about sensors?
[07:37] <miss_ubuntu_> hellllo room
[07:37] <dr_willis> you mean Lm_sensors?
[07:37] <dr_willis> !sensors
[07:37] <Arash> enjoy the show ?!
[07:37] <miss_ubuntu_> Question : one wireless card , is it possible to connect two wireless networks at same time?
[07:37] <vampirnata> that's the one dr_willis
[07:38] <vampirnata> I'm having some difficulty getting it to display temps besides coretemp
[07:38] <vampirnata> I have a Intel® Desktop Board D945GCLF2D
 Question : one wireless card , is it possible to connect two wireless networks at same time?
[07:39] <DJones> !bot | miss_ubuntu_