[02:18] <sidd1317> I've got a computer running off of a bootable ubuntu 11.04 disc.  It's to scratched to install from.
[02:18] <sidd1317> However, I have a flash drive with the same iso burned onto it, bootable.  My motherboard doesn't support booting from it, though.
[02:19] <sidd1317> I've no new cd-r's to write a fresh install onto, so I'm left with only one option.  I can't figure out how to do it.  How can I read/install from the 11.04 flash drive, while running from the cd?
[02:20] <pleia2> sidd1317: unfortunately you have to boot from the usb drive, do you have a friend or neighbor who can burn the iso for you?
[02:20] <sidd1317> No, I'll have to wait until tomorrow to get my hands on a fresh disc.
[02:21] <pleia2> does the machine have a floppy drive?
[02:21] <sidd1317> Yes, first I've seen in years.  No floppies on hand, though.
[02:21] <pleia2> ah ok
[02:22] <sidd1317> I can't install from the usb iso while running of the cd, then?
[02:22] <pleia2> not that I'm aware of
[02:23] <sidd1317> Well, thanks for the help anyhow
[03:05] <bluechaos1986> what's up everyone?
[06:46] <Captainkrtek> hey jacob
[06:46] <Captainkrtek> err
[07:06] <Captainkrtek> DarkwingDuck: im off to bed, check your email :)
[07:06] <DarkwingDuck> Will do Captainkrtek
[07:06] <DarkwingDuck> thanks
[07:06] <Captainkrtek> np
[07:06] <Captainkrtek> got the bugs page done
[07:06] <Captainkrtek> :)
[10:04] <s-fox> Hello.
[10:07] <bioterror> hi
[10:08] <coalwater> hi s-fox and bioterror  :)
[10:09] <s-fox> Hello coalwater .  Congratulations on joining the team.
[10:09] <coalwater> thanks :D
[10:39] <tdn> What to do in order to make Sun Java work in Firefox/Opera, etc? I need this to use online bank.
[10:39] <coalwater> u mean the java plugin right?
[10:39] <coalwater> for applets?
[10:39] <tdn> Correct
[10:39] <coalwater> ok
[10:39] <coalwater> give me a sec
[10:39] <tdn> I'll give you two :)
[10:40] <coalwater> did u install java?
[10:40] <tdn> Yes.
[10:40] <tdn> coalwater, http://paste.adora.dk/P2057.txt
[10:40] <tdn> coalwater, ^ my installed java packages
[10:40] <bioterror> tdn, jsut a moment
[10:41] <bioterror> sudo add-apt-repository "deb http://archive.canonical.com/ $(lsb_release -sc) partner"
[10:41] <bioterror> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-{jre,bin,plugin,fonts}
[10:41] <bioterror> sudo apt-get purge openjdk-6-{jre,jre-lib,jre-headless} icedtea{-6-jre-cacao,6-plugin}
[10:41] <bioterror> hahaha tdn, you're also victim of DANSKE BANK
[10:41] <bioterror> :----------------D
[10:41] <coalwater> for firefox u could do a symlink, i do it like that
[10:42] <tdn> coalwater, I already have this line in my sources: deb http://archive.canonical.com natty partner
[10:43] <coalwater> what line?
[10:43] <bioterror> tdn, then skip that part
[10:43] <tdn> Ok.
[10:46] <coalwater> ok, well i have my java installed in /usr/java, i link /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libnpjp2.so to /usr/java/jre1.6.0_25/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
[10:46] <bioterror> coalwater, what does that mean?
[10:46] <bioterror> why you link?
[10:46] <coalwater> i usually just install java from java.com
[10:46] <bioterror> is there a certain raeson
[10:46] <bioterror> coalwater, why?
[10:46] <coalwater> then do the symlink, to make firefox see the java plugin
[10:47] <tdn> bioterror, coalwater : it is installing now. A bit slow net.  So it takes a while.
[10:47] <bioterror> o_O
[10:47] <coalwater> bioterror, like this http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/manual-plugin-install-linux-136395.html
[10:47] <bioterror> takes couple of days from repos to update to the latest if newer one is released
[10:48] <coalwater> never tried the way u just posted
[10:48] <bioterror> :G
[10:48] <bioterror> tdn, after installation restart your browser
[10:49] <coalwater> so bioterror , i dunno if that is supposed to mean bad or what lol
[10:50] <tdn> bioterror, it works. Thanks!
[10:50] <bioterror> tdn, you're welcome ;)
[10:51] <bioterror> coalwater, as you see, you're doing it wrong ;)
[10:51] <coalwater> usually worked for me lol, but i saved the lines u just pasted and i think ill try it when i'm free lol
[10:52] <bioterror> it has been asked so many times
[10:55] <coalwater> yea i noticed
[14:35] <sattu94> how do i connect to another channel using the freenode web interface?
[14:36] <s-fox>  /join #channelName
[14:36] <s-fox> @ sattu94
[14:37] <sattu94> s-fox: thanks
[14:37] <s-fox> Pleasure.
[14:37] <sattu94> is nobody really talking or i cannot see due to some problem in my webchat/javascript?
[14:38] <Sidewinder1> It's just slow today.
[14:38] <sattu94> oh, okay.
[16:26] <stlsaint> duanedesign: poke
[16:29] <coalwater> stlsaint, poke :P
[16:30] <stlsaint> coalwater: yo
[16:31] <coalwater> hey stlsaint , how are u doin
[16:32] <stlsaint> coalwater: upset that i am just now gaining access to some internet, service went down all day and when it finally comes up i have to go in to work
[16:32] <stlsaint> coalwater: other than that just working on packaging some apport hooks. What you up to?
[16:32] <coalwater> working on work's work :D
[16:34] <stlsaint> coalwater: interesting
[16:34] <coalwater> i think im gonna try making duanedesign my devel and bugs mentor :P
[16:34] <stlsaint> coalwater: good luck, guy is pretty busy ;)
[16:34] <coalwater> i know
[16:34] <duanedesign> hello stlsaint
[16:34] <stlsaint> WHOA
[16:35] <stlsaint> um, erm, hmm, *cough*, well i duane we were just talking on how great a guy you are :D
[16:35] <stlsaint> duanedesign: quick question, does clic have a apport hook?
[16:35] <duanedesign> ha
[16:35] <duanedesign> stlsaint: it does not
[16:36] <duanedesign> good idea though
[16:36] <stlsaint> duanedesign: well i did up two for the lubuntu project and am working on packaging them now, i have no issue with filing bug and working on one for the project
[16:37] <stlsaint> duanedesign: speaking of which is there anything i can help with on the packaging of clic? you said there was issue?
[16:37] <duanedesign> yeah, not sure what is up but it is failing to build
[16:38] <stlsaint> which are you trying to build for?
[16:38] <stlsaint> natty oneiric?
[16:38] <duanedesign> let me make sure I have the most recent debian folder i have uploaded to bzr
[16:38] <duanedesign> Natty
[16:39] <stlsaint> hrm, i could have sworn i built a package for natty, for practice but didnt sign or test it so i discarded it, i can go at it again when i get off work tonight
[16:40] <stlsaint> i need to clean up my clic branch anyways, old code still lingering around in there
[16:40] <duanedesign> abdoloutely
[16:40] <stlsaint> bodhi_zazen: heyo
[16:40] <duanedesign> err
[16:40] <duanedesign> absoloutely
[16:40] <stlsaint> haha, fat finger freddy
[16:41] <stlsaint> duanedesign: i have still not received word on the whole alioth plan yet
[16:41] <stlsaint> duanedesign: they said give it 72 hours
[16:41] <duanedesign> A b s o l u t e l y
[16:41] <stlsaint> and the will reply to me
[16:41] <duanedesign> their
[16:41] <stlsaint> success
[16:41] <duanedesign> :)
[16:41] <stlsaint> coalwater: psstt....
[16:41] <coalwater> *whispers* yes?
[16:42] <stlsaint> coalwater: Hi
[16:43] <duanedesign> stlsaint: thank you for all your help
[16:44] <duanedesign> i am getting a lot of emails fromm users wanting a new release
[16:44] <stlsaint> duanedesign: np, it is great work for me to learn packaging
[16:44] <stlsaint> duanedesign: yea i have been also, and even more attention on the manpage as well
[16:45] <stlsaint> duanedesign: you may want to gander at the proposed members for the clic dev team on lp
[16:47] <duanedesign> stlsaint: cool i will
[16:48] <stlsaint> duanedesign: when are we looking to schedule a release?
[16:50] <duanedesign> as soon as i can get it packaged
[16:50] <stlsaint> duanedesign: in that case were you able to view my email on suggesting the feature freeze
[16:51] <duanedesign> though we need to get it packaged, releaswed and let people use it for a couple weeks to see if any bugs pop up
[16:51] <duanedesign> definetly we need to stop addding features at this point
[16:51] <stlsaint> duanedesign: i say we knock out say the last few bugs we have had as of last month and throw in the manpage and then release
[16:53] <stlsaint> the natty release should definately help easy into a oneiric release
[16:55] <stlsaint> duanedesign: i also would like to suggest again the email to the dev team with your plans, goals, current focus, release timeframe, etc. Just so everyone is on the same page
[16:55] <stlsaint> duanedesign: me hogging your time in here is unfair to the others :D
[16:56] <duanedesign> :)
[17:01] <duanedesign> thanks again stlsaint I am off for Lunch
[17:07] <stlsaint> and im off for work...later folks
[18:08] <brad_> is this working?
[18:10] <pleia2> brad_: yes
[18:10] <brad_> hey cool! Thank you!
[18:10] <brad_> I am a total newb here. I love ubuntu, but coming from windows is really difficult. Can anyone recommend a good book?
[18:11] <brad_> I need to troubleshoot my system at home, and am finding it very confusing
[18:12] <coalwater> what's the problem ?
[18:12] <brad_> my sound doesnt work, and I cant get dual monitors to work
[18:12] <brad_> ive tried to read through the community documentation, but nothing is working
[18:13] <brad_> I thought I would buy a book if there is a good one available
[18:13] <UndiFineD> brad_, there the Ubuntu-Manual a book which you can order
[18:14] <UndiFineD> http://ubuntu-manual.org/
[18:14] <UndiFineD> or read online
[18:14] <seidos> brad_: you could also buy support
[18:15] <brad_> I actually had the sound working at one point, but i think it went away when I updated?
[18:15] <brad_> Thank your for the link BTW
[18:17] <UndiFineD> I am not very capable in sound issues
[18:17] <UndiFineD> as my own sound is broken too
[18:17] <pleia2> brad_: have you seen this? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[18:18] <pleia2> (there are also some links at the bottom of the page for some further testing)
[18:19] <brad_> thank you pleia2. That does look familiar. I will take a look at that again.
[18:19] <pleia2> the "ubuntu-bug audio" thing is pretty nice, walks you through a lot of basic troubleshooting in dialogs
[18:20] <brad_> I do remember changing a value somewhere from a 0 to a 1, or from a 1 to a 2 and had sound, but couldnt find the page that I used to get me there
[18:21] <brad_> I downloaded that book. I will do some more research and will likely be back here soon. Thanks all.
[18:36] <brad_> okay, im already back.
[18:37] <brad_> I just upgraded to the latest version, and I dont like it. Is it possible to revert back to the prior ?
[18:37] <pleia2> not really
[18:38] <brad_> so then I would just re-install meerkat?
[18:38] <pleia2> yeah, reinstalling is the only reliable way
[18:39] <pleia2> you may also want to check out "classic" mode
[18:39] <pleia2> if you don't like the new unity interface
[18:39] <brad_> that is basically what I dont like. how do I do classic mode?
[18:39] <pleia2> brad_: when you log in there is an option as to which interface you want to use
[18:40] <pleia2> (I don't remember where exactly, poke around the login screen some and you should find it :))
[18:41] <brad_> okay will do.
[18:43] <brad_> found it. Thank you pleia2. one more stupid question;
[18:43] <brad_> assuming I have 1/2 a brain, how long should it take to get comfortable with ubuntu, and move around relatively easy?
[18:44] <pleia2> it depends on the type of user, I've set up with a lot of casual computer users (web, email, office docs) with ubuntu and they had no problems getting used to it
[18:44] <pleia2> if you're more of a power windows user and like pushing the limits of your system the learning curve will be steeper
[18:45] <brad_> 5 years?
[18:45] <pleia2> maybe 5 years to become a linux professional
[18:46] <brad_> well that is encouraging!
[18:46] <brad_> Thanks. Im gonna log out and try the classic screen.
[18:47] <brad_> i'll be back (mimic's the governator)
[19:03] <harleydude> How do yu highlight more than one file in a folder
[19:04] <harleydude> ? Tried holding down "CTRL" key but does not let
[19:04] <harleydude> do anything
[19:06] <harleydude> In Windows you can select a file and hold down the Shift & CTRL key and highlight more then one file. Not sure how to accomplish same thing in Ubuntu?
[19:22] <xardas008_> *thinking*
[19:22] <DarkwingDuck> harleydude: it works here with the left CTRL
[19:23] <xardas008_> did you use the arrow keys in combination with ctrl harleydude
[19:24] <coalwater> im not sure of what's the problem but are u trying simply in nautilus, or a file selector? if its a selector it might not allow multiple files, just saying
[20:25] <pappijo> i've got a problem with my graphic card driver: it cuts out a stripe of the screen and it doesn't show all resolutions: it shows only an exotic resolution which is not 4/3
[20:32] <virgo> hi
[20:32] <bioterror> hi
[20:32] <virgo> where does ubuntu install my programs
[20:33] <bioterror> usually /usr/bin or /usr/sbin
[20:39] <virgo> there are ony executables
[20:39] <virgo> where are the folders
[20:46] <kristian-aalborg> virgo, hi
[20:46] <virgo> hi
[20:46] <kristian-aalborg> the other stuff is in other folders... the configuration is likely in your home folder
[20:47] <kristian-aalborg> some things might be in /usr/share, I think
[20:47] <virgo> i have to install libraries for some programs
[20:47] <virgo> and i dont know where they are located after using software center to install them
[20:47] <kristian-aalborg> ah, which programs is it and what are the missing libraries?
[20:48] <virgo> actually, i want to configure my CodeBlocks IDE program for irrlicht libraries
[20:50] <virgo> it micht be that i dont need to do this at all
[20:55] <virgo> Code::Blocks IDE says: choose the irrlicht location
[20:55] <virgo> and i have no idea wher did ubuntu put this
[20:56] <virgo>  in windows it would be Program Files i guess
[21:07] <virgo> i need the folder where ubuntu unpacks files for installing i think
[21:09] <hajour> do you have download yourself or have it installed by package manager virgo ?
[21:09] <virgo> i did use software center
[21:10] <UndiFineD> hello virgo , if you use software center, everything should be installed by itself
[21:10] <hajour> thanks UndiFineD  you can type faster then me and also i need to learn still much
[21:11] <hajour> virgo by UndiFineD  you are in safe hands by way of speaking :)
[21:11] <UndiFineD> virgo,
[21:11] <UndiFineD> http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/tut_codeblocks.html
[21:12] <UndiFineD> oh those are silly windows installation guides
[21:13] <UndiFineD> well maybe it is partially relevant too
[21:14] <UndiFineD> but instead gcc would be used and directory names are different
[21:14] <virgo> in that tutorial all the folders are Program files\...
[21:15] <UndiFineD> virgo I will try this mysellf
[21:15] <UndiFineD> I have neither
[21:15] <virgo> and when i start my project, it asks irrlicht location
[21:20] <UndiFineD> I am recording actually what I am doing for you now :)
[21:21] <virgo> i think i have to download and unpack the irrlicht separately
[21:21] <UndiFineD> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7607669/desktop/Screenshot-21.png
[21:26] <virgo> for some reason i see only little top side of this picture
[21:27] <UndiFineD> maybe I was to fast for copying that link, you can try again
[21:32] <virgo> refresh not helping...
[21:38] <UndiFineD> virgo, I am having the same issue
[21:38] <UndiFineD> I got a lot of stuff, installed and I recorded it in a screen session
[21:38] <UndiFineD> which is encoding now
[21:39] <UndiFineD> but at least you can get a feeling of how I do it in ubuntu
[21:40] <virgo> so, you too were not able to start irrlicht project with CodeBlocks?
[21:40] <UndiFineD> no
[21:43] <hajour> is there a bug report maybe from it ?
[21:46] <virgo> may be it will still compyle my project if i just include the irrlicht.h file?
[21:46] <virgo> when i choose some other default project as blank
[21:50] <UndiFineD> might be
[21:56] <hajour> mm maybe useful to report it
[22:02] <virgo> ahh, i so failed today. May be better luck tomorrow. Thanks for help.
[22:02] <virgo> bye
[22:02] <UndiFineD> ok see you virgo


[19:15] <bwmaker> Shhh.
[20:05] <wrst> :D
[20:43] <bwmaker> Someone has to come around and shake this group up a little.
[20:43] <Unit193> \o   LET'S   o/
[20:43] <Unit193>  |>  DISCO! <|
[20:43] <Unit193> < \         / >
[20:43] <Unit193> Shaken up?
[20:47] <bwmaker> Whoa.
[21:20] <Unit193> wrst: See Jurassic World?
[21:30] <wrst> yes Unit193 the wife dragged me out to watch it
[21:30] <Unit193> You had to be dragged? :(
[21:30] <Unit193> How'd you like?
[21:31] <wrst> I'm not a movie guy but action
[21:31] <wrst> so action is good
[21:32] <Unit193> Well, I watched them when I was little, sooo.  It's got a special place. :3


[22:28] <gwozt> yeah but *node* nodejs also
[22:29] <gwozt> yeah but *node* means nodejs also*
[22:29] <lucyfx> yea, just tried. works for me
[22:29] <lucyfx> "apt list *node*"
[22:29] <lucyfx> right?
[22:29] <gwozt> it works? u mean it lists nodejs
[22:29] <lucyfx> nodejs/xenial-updates,now 4.2.6~dfsg-1ubuntu4.1 amd64 [installed,automatic]
[22:29] <lucyfx> yep
[22:29] <egonsen> thanks, genii
[22:29] <lucyfx> does *a* work for you ?
[22:30] <genii> egonsen: You're welcome
[22:30] <gwozt> damn it, is my apt somehow broken or something cuz i dont get the same output as you
[22:30] <Knittel> hello all, back again
[22:30] <Jordan_U> lucyfx: Make sure that you quote your glob, like this apt list '*node*'
[22:30] <genii> gwozt: apt list \*node\*
[22:30] <Knittel> i installed a lot of desktop enbvironnements today
[22:30] <gwozt> genii, thx mate
[22:30] <gwozt> now it works
[22:30] <lucyfx> Jordan_U, should be OK as long as i dont want whitespace?
[22:30] <lucyfx> i dont have *
[22:30] <gwozt> but why does this happen?
[22:30] <genii> gwozt: No problemmo
[22:31] <lucyfx> apt list *node* works for me, no quotes
[22:31] <genii> gwozt: Because it's parsing the line, you have to escape the asterisks
[22:31] <lucyfx> and I dont?
[22:31] <Knittel> better said, a friend did
[22:31] <gwozt> genii, yeah but why does it work on different inputs like *mysql*
[22:31] <Jordan_U> lucyfx: Otherwise if you had a file named pumpkin_nodeule.txt in your current directory then "apt list *node*" would run "apt list pumpkin_nodeule.txt" because the shell would interpret the glob before apt even sees it.
[22:32] <gwozt> when i put in *mysql* as input it works just as expected
[22:32] <lucyfx> Jordan_U, reminds me of the I accidently rm rf'd myself
[22:32] <lucyfx> of the time *
[22:32] <lucyfx> gwozt, so you have a file named node in that directory?
[22:32] <lucyfx> like node_modules, so it searches for node_modules?
[22:33] <gwozt> in which directory?
[22:33] <lucyfx> yea, just checked. thats whats happening
[22:33] <lucyfx> run "ls"
[22:33] <le_pig> gwozt: which release are you on? 14.04, 16.04?
[22:33] <lucyfx> the directory you are running the terminal in
[22:33] <gwozt> 14.04
[22:33] <Jordan_U> gwozt: Make sure that you quote your glob, like this: apt list '*node*'
[22:33] <gwozt> i am in home/user directory
[22:33] <lucyfx> "apt list *a*" becomes "abcdef" if you have a file named abcdef in that directory for example, as Jordan_U reminded us
[22:34] <le_pig> Isn't the "node" package in trusty/14.04 HAM radio software?
[22:34] <lucyfx> so in home/user, you have something that matches *node*
[22:34] <lucyfx> and apt list searches for that instead
[22:34] <Jordan_U> gwozt: Otherwise if you had a file named pumpkin_nodeule.txt in your current directory then "apt list *node*" would run "apt list pumpkin_nodeule.txt" because the shell would interpret the glob before apt even sees it.
[22:34] <gwozt> oh i see thx lucyfx
[22:34] <gwozt> thx also Jordan_U i got it
[22:34] <lucyfx> and yea, I just paraphrased what Jordan said :p
[22:34] <lucyfx> sorry about that
[22:35] <terabyte> how do I check if a .deb file has a signature?
[22:35] <gwozt> u guys are the men
[22:35] <terabyte> (has been signed)
[22:36] <KayliLynn> Hi:)
[22:38] <terabyte> ar x deb, then look at the gpg file
[22:38] <kernello> hello everyone, I get this error when I run update-upgrade: paste.ubuntu.com/23624965, and I also have this stop sign on the upper pane, which appears when there is a problem with an update-upgrade.
[22:40] <Jordan_U> kernello: Try a different apt mirror.
[22:41] <kernello> Jordan_U, how do I do that?
[22:42] <Knittel> somebody can tell me why my ubu ntu stay on 16.04 and doesntgo trhough to .1?
[22:42] <genii> Alternately, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*     and then run sudo apt update   ..again to rebuild the list
[22:43] <genii> kernello: ^
[22:44] <mkquist_> kernello: have you tried apt-get -f?
[22:44] <kernello> genii, thank you, I will try this..mkquist_, no, I haven't tried it
[22:48] <_28_ria> hello, I've created forcefsck file on all the partitions, that I want to check for errors during reboot, but only the root partition got checked. How to check other partitions during reboot, then?
[22:48] <Trev_> hello
[22:49] <luca_> hi
[22:49] <luca_> am i online?
[22:49] <ohemdevin> You appear to be online, luca!
[22:49] <luca_> thank great
[22:50] <luca_> nobody says any?
[22:51] <luca_> ru all talking in private between u too?
[22:52] <bazhang> luca_, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:52] <Trev_> its weird being able to see everyone ip in IRC
[22:52] <luca_> join ubuntu-offtopic
[22:52] <luca_> how can i join it?
[22:52] <lucyfx> .join ubuntu-offtopic
[22:52] <luca_> what is command string?
[22:52] <Trev_> ./join #ubuntu
[22:52] <lucyfx> replace . with slash
[22:52] <bazhang>  /j #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:52] <Trev_> ./join #ubuntu-offtopic *
[22:53] <lucyfx> lets join it and see how many people also joins
[22:53] <lucyfx> so far none :(
[22:53] <luca_> ./join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:53] <luca_> nope
[22:54] <luca_> it doesnt work
[22:54] <luca_> i typed "/j #ubuntu-offtopic"
[22:54] <luca_> without "
[22:54] <luca_> but im still here
[22:54] <genii> /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:55] <luca_> nope didnt work
[22:55] <luca_> "/join #ubuntu-offtopic"
[22:55] <luca_> without "
[22:55] <luca_> im still here
[22:55] <lucyfx> whats your client?
[22:55] <lucyfx> web?
[22:55] <luca_> hexchat
[22:55] <bazhang> luca_, that's fine, please Stop chatting here
[22:56] <luca_> apologize
[22:56] <luca_> drone??
[22:58] <kbegi> Hi all
[23:08] <guest1110101> I'm experiencing a difficulty in getting Bluetooth on my laptop to detect other Bluetooth devices
[23:08] <guest1110101> I must running 16.04 gnome/ubuntu.. everything works except this
[23:09] <guest1110101> it's just sitting on "searching for devices"
[23:09] <guest1110101> I've used Bluetooth before so I'm certain it's not a user error..
[23:09] <guest1110101> ru
[23:10] <guest1110101> I ran them all at the same time to get them to detect and I could get it to work when Windows was on here, but not ubuntu/gnome 3.0
[23:11] <guest1110101> what can I do about this?
[23:15] <linuxuser9> logged into xubuntu and a window appears and asks me to choose session and name it. never had that window before. anyone have that before?
[23:16] <KayliLynn> Hi!
[23:16] <linuxuser9> hi
[23:24] <SValkyrie> Good evening, I am resuming my quest as a new Ubuntu user to install the OS onto my hard drive.  There is already a 50GB partition that has Win7 installed.  There is another partition that is storage, and a remainder 50GB block of unallocated space.  The difficulty is that Ubuntu Live does not see my hard drive at all, neither partition with data on it or the unallocated space.  Any help is...
[23:24] <SValkyrie> ...appreciated.  I changed the hard drive from IDE to ACHI in the bios and this did not resolve the issue.  Thanks.
[23:27] <Bashing-om> SValkyrie: Still do not know . but a thought as gdisk and Gparted do not see that drive . is the system fully shut down in Windows - such that Windows is not holding that drive ?
[23:28] <SValkyrie> My PC was turned off until I just arrived home moments ago.  I powered it on with the following boot priority: CD drive, Removable Media, HDD.  Because the Ubuntu volume was in the CD drive, it loaded me to Ubuntu live which is what we are chatting on now.  I do not believe that any Windows processes should be running currently.
[23:29] <maddawg2> if you are not runnign windows i think that would be a good bet
[23:31] <SValkyrie> Once we determined last night that Ubuntu was not seeing my HDD at *all* I was able to do some more intelligible research today at work.  Is there any chance that the HDD needs to be plugged into a specific SATA connector on my motherboard for Ubuntu to see it?
[23:31] <maddawg2> that is possible
[23:32] <maddawg2> but you might want to check your bios and make sure the sata port it's plugged into is not disabled
[23:32] <maddawg2> it should see it on any sata port unless you have some weird storage controller
[23:32] <SValkyrie> I would have a hard time believing it is disabled, as I am able to shut down this live session and boot Win7 no problem.
[23:32] <maddawg2> or a RAID controller of sorts
[23:32] <_28_ria> hello, I've created forcefsck file on all the partitions, that I want to check for errors during reboot, but only the root partition got checked. How to check other partitions during reboot, then?
[23:33] <maddawg2> SValkyrie, what are you using to try and see the hard drive?
[23:33] <maddawg2> are you trying to see it from the live cd?
[23:33] <maddawg2> because if so the reason you cant is cuz it's not mounted
[23:33] <SValkyrie> Another user here walked me through gparted which should display all volumes for my system.
[23:33] <maddawg2> yes
[23:33] <SValkyrie> at least, that was the intent that I gathered
[23:33] <maddawg2> and did it?
[23:34] <SValkyrie> It displayed only the DVD medium @ 1.41GB
[23:34] <maddawg2> what kind of computer is this?
[23:34] <maddawg2> it's possible that the sata controller is different or custom
[23:34] <SValkyrie> I built it myself several years ago, so it's not really stock from any kind of factory
[23:36] <tomreyn> _28_ria: refer to the FSTAB(5) man page (run "man fstab") and its paragraph "The sixth field"
[23:37] <_28_ria> tomreyn: I've already checked it. I have it set as 2, which means check after root partition.
[23:38] <SValkyrie> This support query was the closest thing I could find resembling my situation: http://askubuntu.com/questions/99038/why-the-ubuntu-installer-does-not-detect-the-hard-drive-during-installation  Unfortunately I do not understand enough of the Ubuntu side to make any progress.
[23:38] <SValkyrie> It is what gave me thought to perhaps having to plug the HDD into a different SATA connector for my motherboard though.
[23:38] <tomreyn> _28_ria: hmm, it's possible that the force_fsck only works on fs_passno=1 - but i'm just speculating there.
[23:38] <_28_ria> tomreyn: but the forcefsck files remained on those partitions after reboot, but on the root (/) partition it got removed and during reboot, I saw, that only 1 partition got checked. I have 3: 1 for root (/), 1 for /home and 1 for /var
[23:39] <_28_ria> tomreyn: OK, I will try to set other partitions to 1 temporarily and reboot to see if it helps.
[23:39] <kikoNICK> hi
[23:39] <tomreyn> _28_ria: you could check /home and /var either online or from a recovery shell.
[23:40] <_28_ria> tomreyn: Well, I am kind of nervous of checking it online, but in the recovery shell, I will check, if check on reboot will not work.
[23:41] <_28_ria> tomreyn: I am reading tune2fs doc, maybe it has ability to set some parameter in the file system itself, to mark it to check on boot.
[23:42] <tomreyn> _28_ria: that's correct, you can set the # of mounts to the # of max mounts before next check
[23:42] <tomreyn> that's if it's an ext 3 or 4 sile system (not sure about 2)
[23:43] <tomreyn> that's if it's an ext 3 or 4 file system (not sure about 2)
[23:43] <_28_ria> tomreyn: I have 4, ever since it got officially supported by Ubuntu.
[23:45] <tomreyn> _28_ria: "dumpe2fs -h /dev/XXX" to get the current state (# of mounts, configured max # of mounts before check is forced)
[23:45] <tomreyn> Mount count:              2
[23:45] <tomreyn> Maximum mount count:      21
[23:45] <tomreyn> ^ for an example
[23:45] <_28_ria> tomreyn: yes, I was thinking to get the current value, before changing
[23:46] <spock> 025
[23:47] <tomreyn> _28_ria: "tune2fs -C NNN /dev/XXX" to set the current mount count for ext* formatted block device XXX to the amount of NNN, which should should be >= "Maximum mount count"
[23:49] <Knittel> hello again
[23:52] <tomreyn> SValkyrie: you could open a terminal and run this: sudo partprobe --summary ; sudo lsblk --all
[23:52] <tomreyn> this should list all known block devices and partitions.
[23:54] <SValkyrie> tomreyn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23626250/
[23:55] <tomreyn> so this is a mac?
[23:55] <SValkyrie> negative
[23:55] <luca_> me?
[23:56] <tomreyn> not you Calgion ;)
[23:56] <tomreyn> not you Calgon ;)
[23:56] <_28_ria> tomreyn: ok, I've set current mount count to the same as maximum and sent a comp to reboot.
[23:56] <Calgon> guys how i join offtopic?
[23:56] <Calgon> ubuntu-offtopic
[23:57] <_28_ria> I wonder, if I can do the same thing with the root (/) fs, instead of creating a forcefsck file on it.
[23:57] <SValkyrie> tomreyn: the second command yields: http://paste.ubuntu.com/23626253/
[23:57] <bobdobbs> Hi all. I'm setting up an ubuntu 14.04 VPS. I can't log in via SSH unless I'm logging in as root. Nonroot users get this feedback: http://hastebin.com/wilafekefe.vbs
[23:58] <bobdobbs> I replaced the hosts fingerprint in my nonroot users know_hosts file, but that didn't alter the outcome
[23:58] <squinty> Calgon, type  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:58] <Calgon>  /msg NickServ help
[23:58] <Calgon> omg!!
[23:59] <SValkyrie> Calgon: try /ns help
[23:59] <Calgon> just i want see the commands


[01:16] <rostam> HI I am using 12.04 LTS there is no /etc/apt/apt.conf, ??
[01:17] <jkitchen> make one
[01:17] <jkitchen> or use apt.conf.d
[01:17] <sarnold> rostam: feel free to put what you need into one, or a file under /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
[01:18] <rostam> This is for apt-cacher-ng configuration ..
[01:18] <sarnold> rostam: yikes
[01:18] <rostam> sarnold,  why?
[01:19] <sarnold> rostam: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-cacher-ng/+bug/1234946
[01:19] <sarnold> rostam: strongly recommend you use squid-deb-proxy instead
[01:19] <sarnold> (it's faster, too :)
[01:19] <rostam> sarnold,  thank you  so much I will use that then
[01:20] <sarnold> have fun :)
[02:59] <embiopterid> sarnold: jeeze I was about to use apt-cacher, cuz I have 3 ubuntu vms and 3 debian vms just right now, and I'm sure I'm not the only one annoyed by the waste of bandwidth.  Thx dude.
[03:49] <sarnold> embiopterid: amen; I've got piles of VMs and schroots for building packages; having a local cache or local archive mirror is the only way I can get things done, so when apt-cacher-ng suddenly stopped working for me, it was -miserable-
[03:50] <sarnold> embiopterid: .. and you can guess how horrible it was to figure out that a cache that had worked fine for three or four releases was suddenly corrupting files.. *sigh* oh well, squid-deb-proxy works better, and though I miss the awesome apt-cacher-ng stats page, squid Just Works. So hooray. :)
[05:49] <embiopterid> I guess I'll just throw that in another vm so I don't have to reconfigure anything that's working already.  I usually try do do it that way, but I just set this thing up.  Some of this new hardware has some serious issues, what a pain.  I'm still waiting for the kernel dev team to get iommu working along with my stupid marvel sata card and my dual pcie dual-port ethernet card but at least I'm not having spontaneos reboots any
[05:49] <embiopterid> more.  I'f it wasn't mine I'd just scrap it and start over with new hardware but I'm cheap and don't have that kind of money :\
[06:10] <SiliconG> Hello all -
[06:11] <SiliconG> I am trying to build php5.4.23
[06:11] <SiliconG> and I am getting a really strange error I dont understand
[06:11] <SiliconG> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[06:11] <SiliconG> make: *** [libphp5.la] Error 1
[06:11] <SiliconG> any of you seen this?
[06:12] <SiliconG> here is the complete error
[06:12] <SiliconG> http://pastebin.com/jXWgZ1bz
[06:45] <cfhowlett> !php
[08:36] <misterjinx> hello, has this happened to anyone before http://serverfault.com/q/568125/39795 ? I don't know what to do to solve the problem.
[08:46] <TJ-> misterjinx: Obviously you need to find out if the "Broken" entries in the upgrade-log are current or historic, and if they are current, to look at a specimen package from that log and see what its installed version is, and what the current Ubuntu archive version is (see packages.ubuntu.com) to identify if that system is behind the times or otherwise confused
[08:47] <misterjinx> TJ-: I tried to update some of the packages from there but on each one I get that it is up to date, that it is already the newest version
[08:48] <misterjinx> what means that the system is confused ? what can I do to "fix" it ?
[08:49] <TJ-> OK.... so is that log file a result of the latest "do-release-upgrade" - when it is attempting to go from 12.10 to 13.04 ?
[08:49] <misterjinx> yes
[08:50] <TJ-> Have you checked you have the latest version of "do-release-upgrade", which is in the package "ubuntu-release-upgrader-core"
[08:51] <misterjinx> I checked now, it tells me it is already the newest version
[08:53] <TJ-> OK.. so when you run "sudo do-release-upgrade" what does it say it is going to do? because the 2 screenshots you've posted show it trying to fetch package lists for both raring and quantal? if it does that then you've got some out-of-date entries in the APT sources lists
[08:54] <TJ-> if do-release-upgrade breaks it can sometimes have replaced the "current" release name with the "target" release name in the sources lists, and you have to manually edit those back to the current release name
[08:55] <misterjinx> in the sources.lst there are four entries that specify the release name "quantal"
[08:56] <TJ-> OK ... how about in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
[08:58] <hXm> hi
[08:58] <hXm> what is the best (or easier configure) imap server?
[08:59] <misterjinx> TJ-: to answer your first question, when I run do-release-upgrade it starts with "Checking for a new Ubuntu release; Get:1 Upgrade tool signature; Get2: Upgrade tool; Fetched ...; authenticate 'raring.tar.gz' against 'raring.tar.gz.gpg'; extracting 'raring.tar.gz' and then it switches to a new screen when it starts to fetch repositories and so on
[09:00] <misterjinx> TJ-: and inside /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ there are 2 files: izx-ovz-libc-precise.list and izx-ovz-libc-precise.list.distUpgrade
[09:00] <TJ-> OK, that looks good then... it doesn't look like it is too confused!
[09:01] <misterjinx> inside first file there are two lines: 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/izx/ovz-libc/ubuntu precise main # disabled on upgrade to quantal
[09:01] <misterjinx> and deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/izx/ovz-libc/ubuntu precise main # disabled on upgrade to quantal
[09:01] <misterjinx> I think they have to do with OpenVZ
[09:01] <misterjinx> and libc6 (I read something about it on the web)
[09:02] <misterjinx> to mention that after the first upgrade (from 12.04 to 12.10) these lines were commented
[09:02] <TJ-> misterjinx: Check that "izx-ovz-libc-precise.list" make sure any "deb" lines are commented out.... That "ovz" suggests to me that the VPS is a Virtuosso/OpenVZ based system... and I'd hazard a guess your ISP has its own custom Ubuntu repositories, and is somehow interfering with the HTTP fetch to the ubuntu servers, possibly using a transparent proxy
[09:02] <misterjinx> TJ-: after I did the first upgrade, indeed, the deb lines were commented out
[09:03] <misterjinx> but I uncommented them thinking that perhas that was the problem
[09:03] <TJ-> misterjinx: Well, those references in that file to "precise" are wrong for starters, so they ought to be disabled
[09:03] <misterjinx> turned out that even I uncommented them the upgrade still fails
[09:04] <misterjinx> ok, I will disable them again
[09:05] <misterjinx> TJ-: thanks for your time, btw
[09:05] <TJ-> That system does have full Internet access doesn't it? If so, rerun do-release-upgrade and capture its output to a pastebin so we can read it
[09:07] <misterjinx> when I ping google.com, for instance, I receive back responses. I'll try to capture the output, but don't know if I will be able to catch it all since it is kinda long
[09:11] <TJ-> Redirect it to a log-file "do-release-upgrade 2>&1 | tee /tmp/dru-01.log"
[09:11] <misterjinx> ok, in a minute
[09:23] <misterjinx> TJ-: I cannot capture the correct output. when I run the do-release-upgrade command it outputs four lines (http://pastebin.com/fQrz5Uad) and then switches to another screen, whos output I cannot capture; to get back to the command line I have to press 'x' when the upgrade finishes (in order to detach the window)
[09:24] <misterjinx> and that output is lost :(
[09:24] <TJ-> I'll fix yours... if you can fix mine ... 2 runs of md5sum on the same 1TB backup gave different results :O
[09:25] <TJ-> Grrrr... OK, we'll have to look at the log-file d-r-u created in /var/log/dist-upgrade/
[09:26] <misterjinx> in a minute, I have there a file screnlog.0 that has the output
[09:27] <TJ-> misterjinx: OK :)
[09:36] <misterjinx> TJ-: here it is, sorry for waiting http://pastebin.com/BR7pB1JA
[09:51] <TJ-> misterjinx: "E:Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages"
[09:51] <TJ-> misterjinx: So what does "apt-get -f install" say/do ?
[10:01] <misterjinx> TJ-: apt-get -f install doesn't do anything: '0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded'
[10:02] <TJ-> misterjinx: how about "apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[10:03] <misterjinx> TJ-: the response is the same
[10:10] <TJ-> misterjinx: take a look in /var/log/dist-upgrade/  in case there are more detailed logs available
[10:10] <TJ-> misterjinx: it has got itself confused somehow
[10:14] <misterjinx> TJ-: now I was thinkinh, could this problem be related to some dhcp6client (or something like that) package ? I remember that during the first upgrade this was the only package that asked me something, the interface to use, and I left the field blank (didn't know the interface). I think it disabled something because of this. could this be causing the upgrade error by any chance ?
[10:17] <TJ-> misterjinx: If there were any package issues, apt-get should show them
[10:17] <misterjinx> yes, you're right
[10:19] <misterjinx> TJ-: well, unfortunately I don't know if there is a solution to my problem. I now see myself forced to reinstall the machine :(. thanks again for your support
[10:19] <TJ-> misterjinx: the only time I've seen something like this is when there is a local (network) cache or proxy repository held by the ISP where the packages aren't the versions in the Ubuntu archives.
[10:20] <misterjinx> could be, don't knnw exactly
[10:20] <misterjinx> *know
[10:26] <ExoFlame> hello
[10:38] <xnc> can someone help me a little with ssl on apache2
[10:39] <bekks> xnc: That depends on your problem.
[10:39] <xnc> i have installed ssl and trying to make it work on my webpage
[10:39] <bekks> "installed ssl" - what exactly does that mean?
[10:39] <xnc> made certificate and using ssl on apache2
[10:40] <xnc> on port 443
[10:40] <xnc> but its not encrypted
[10:40] <xnc> i have also configured enabled page in apache2/sites-enabled
[10:40] <xnc> to use ssl
[10:40] <xnc> as domain im using ip
[10:41] <xnc> seems like its running ok but it yet doesnt use ssl its something thats missing
[10:41] <xnc> [Sat Jan 18 10:29:22.802313 2014] [ssl:warn] [pid 7011:tid<PHONE_NUMBER>10816] AH01906: RSA server certificate is a CA certificate (BasicConstraints: CA == TRUE !?)
[10:41] <xnc> [Sat Jan 18 10:29:22.918665 2014] [ssl:warn] [pid 7012:tid<PHONE_NUMBER>10816] AH01906: RSA server certificate is a CA certificate (BasicConstraints: CA == TRUE !?)
[10:42] <xnc> [Sat Jan 18 10:29:22.922304 2014] [mpm_event:notice] [pid 7012:tid<PHONE_NUMBER>10816] AH00489: Apache/2.4.6 (Ubuntu) OpenSSL/1.0.1e configured -- resuming normal operations
[10:42] <xnc> [Sat Jan 18 10:29:22.922507 2014] [core:notice] [pid 7012:tid<PHONE_NUMBER>10816] AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2'
[10:42] <bekks> !pastebin
[10:55] <TJ-> xnc "BasicConstraints: CA == TRUE !?" ... says you've installed a CA cert, not a server cert
[10:55] <xnc> hm
[10:55] <xnc> what's the difference?
[10:55] <TJ-> xnc: To test a TLS/SSL connection, use "openssl s_client -connect host:port"
[10:56] <xnc> did it
[10:56] <xnc> what should i look for
[10:56] <TJ-> xnc: you need to do some basic research if you don't know that, for your own safety. CAs are root authorities.
[10:57] <xnc> but im trying to learn:P
[10:57] <TJ-> xnc: "s_client" will give you details of the connection and the certificate(s) being presented by the server
[10:57] <xnc> okey
[10:58] <TJ-> xnc: see http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/ssl/ssl_intro.html
[10:59] <xnc> seems like it a well informed page
[10:59] <xnc> but i cant just read all the time
[10:59] <xnc> but thanks man
[10:59] <xnc> for the help
[11:04] <Diegonat> hello guys... I have a problem with my email server. I hope you can help me. Whenever I try to send an email trough my email server to a gmail account I receive this error message: The IP you're using to send mail is not
[11:04] <Diegonat>     authorized to 550-5.7.1 send email directly to our servers.     <-- However, I think that my dns config is fine. What can I do to fix it?? Can you help me?
[11:08] <TJ-> Diegonat: check with Google, it is their server refusing the connection
[11:11] <Diegonat> TJ i dont know how
[13:53] <LongCatTH> I upgraded kernel from 3.8.0-31-generic to 3.11.0-14-generic, then some modules are missing
[13:55] <LongCatTH> from this https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b3932f7a9939c911b23d to this https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2507fe12abc12fa4eb98
[13:56] <LongCatTH> Im tried to enable them using modprobe but it's say can't find those modules
[15:45] <James_Epp> In my server I SSH'd as root. (I have earlier done a 'sudo passwd') After this I edited crontab and appended the line “0 2 * * * exec ‘/root/updates.sh’”. The contents of updates.sh are found here (http://pastebin.com/fjLdcLqy). However, after a week I SSH'd back into the box and it said there were required updates. I performed them by doing exec /root/updates.sh and it worked perfectly. Why isn't my schedule working?
[16:09] <Shapeshifter> Hi. Is there really no ssh client available on the ubuntu server install medium? I went to TTY2, looking around, but there's really not much there to do diagnostics etc.
[16:19] <hitsujiTMO> shadeslayer: the livecd would be better for diagnostics
[16:19] <hitsujiTMO> Shapeshifter: ^
[16:20] <shadeslayer> or just check the manifest
[16:40] <Meistarin> I need to install vnc on my ubuntu server, I really cant get it to work somehow, is vnc even compilable with ubuntu server ?
[16:54] <TJ-> shadeslayer: openssh-server is an option at install-time, otherwise you have to install it later yourself
[16:55] <TJ-> Meistarin: vnc is for X-windows ... if the server isn't running an X server you would use an ssh client
[17:20] <Shapeshifter> hitsujiTMO: thanks. honestly I find it odd that the install medium doesn't ship with basic diagnostic tools and does not offer to install them ad-hoc.
[18:19] <aegis> Hi all, any ideas on how I can get a local machine to be able to send mail via another local machine running postfix (with an outside connection to my ISP smtp server)?
[18:39] <TJ-> aegis: using postfix you can configure it for that, one forwarding all mail to the other
[18:41] <aegis> TJ-: So, as a quick fix, I just got the localhost to use 'sendmail' and it seems to be working fine now...
[18:41] <joshu> hi when I try to run sudo apt-get update on 8.04 I get a lot of 404 not found. I haven't made any manual changes to the source.list. Any reason for this?
[18:41] <TJ-> joshu: is 8.04 still suported?
[18:42] <joshu> TJ- no idea...this is an old mail server running zimbra
[18:42] <TJ-> The packages will have been removed from archive.ubuntu.com
[18:42] <joshu> TJ- OH shit..
[18:42] <TJ-> joshu: you'll need to change the /etc/apt/sources.list to point instead to "old-releases.ubuntu.com"
[18:43] <joshu> TJ- so 8.04 no longer gets security updates?
[18:43] <TJ-> joshu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[18:44] <joshu> TJ- thanks
[18:44] <ExoFlame> hello im geting this error anybody know why?
[18:45] <ExoFlame> ln -s /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server /home/lighting/yourwebsite/
[18:45] <ExoFlame> ln: target `/home/lighting/yourwebsite/' is not a directory: No such file or directory
[19:06] <andol> ExoFlame: What on earth are you trying to accomplish?
[19:10] <Patrickdk> looks like break his server security
[19:10] <Patrickdk> and probably attempting to do chroot
[19:13] <mmpresti_> hello
[19:13] <mmpresti_> ls
[19:13] <mmpresti_> cd
[19:14] <mmpresti_> 1
[19:56] <miseria> "charlando con un arbol pregunte: porque tenia el cerebro enterrado? responde: la mision es proteger la tierra" bienvenidos: http://castroruben.com *temo_a_un_ser_sin_rival*
[22:39] <g0tcha> heya guys, can someone help me out setting up a weekly backup for my ubuntu server by any chance?
[22:40] <bekks> !backup | g0tcha
[22:40] <g0tcha> thanks bekks.. what do you suggest?
[22:41] <bekks> g0tcha: I suggest reading the links given.
[22:41] <g0tcha> bekks, ok.. do all of these methods support backing up the machine while its running?
[22:41] <bekks> g0tcha: No, thats why it is required to read them.
[22:42] <g0tcha> bekks, if none of them supports backing up a system while its running, whats the point of reading them?
[22:42] <g0tcha> im asking out of curiousity, not to be mean or anything
[22:42] <RoyK> backup is for cowards - real men know their data never dies :D
[22:43] <bekks> I did not say "none are supporting online backups", I said "no, not every solution supports it".
[22:43] <g0tcha> RoyK, strange world youre living in
[22:43] <g0tcha> bekks, can you at least specify which one?
[22:43] <RoyK> g0tcha: ever heard the word "irony"? ;)
[22:44] <bekks> g0tcha: Well, I dont know your backup requirements and constraints, so you have to choose the solution that fits best.
[22:45] <ddsss> Ubuntu 12.04 lts server. Fdisk says 4TB, I mount it  from fstab -> but then df -h says 2TB ???  mistery. any help?
[22:45] <g0tcha> bekks, thanks for the links, but i really dont need to read each one of them if 90% i do not need
[22:45] <bekks> g0tcha: It's your choice then.
[22:45] <RoyK> ddsss: what sort of fs?
[22:45] <g0tcha> ops, i had my window scrolled up
[22:45] <g0tcha> ignore what i wrote
[22:45] <ddsss> RoyK, here's the commands output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6776851/
[22:45] <ddsss> RoyK, ext4
[22:46] <g0tcha> bekks, whati need is simply to backup the whole system and not just the home directory of the user
[22:46] <hitsujiTMO> ddsss: ubuntu 32bit by anychance?
[22:46] <bekks> g0tcha: Then read the links.
[22:46] <g0tcha> lol
[22:46] <RoyK> ddsss: some partition tables don't support >2TB
[22:46] <RoyK> ddsss: better don't use partitions
[22:46] <g0tcha> why dont you just point the one that fits me the most since you already know them all?
[22:47] <bekks> ddsss: MBR partitions tables do not support partitions > 2TB. Use GPT.
[22:47] <ddsss> hitsujiTMO,   stan@linsrv:~$ uname -a
[22:47] <ddsss> Linux linsrv 3.11.0-15-generic #23-Ubuntu SMP Mon Dec 9 18:17:04 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:47] <bekks> g0tcha: Because I am not the one who will read the links given for you.
[22:47] <g0tcha> bekks, why dont you just point the one that fits me the most since you already know them all?
[22:47] <RoyK> ddsss: just don't use partitions with LVM
[22:47] <g0tcha> bekks, ah ok, i guess i assumed you knew about each method in those links
[22:47] <RoyK> ddsss: just use the whole drive
[22:47] <g0tcha> anyone else that might shine more details for a noob?
[22:48] <bekks> g0tcha: Why dont you start reading the links?
[22:48] <hitsujiTMO> ddsss: pastebin the output of: sudo gdisk -l /dev/sdX
[22:48] <ddsss> bekks, so the poblem is in MBR partition type. Can I also jsut use the whole drive as RoyK  says?
[22:48] <bekks> ddsss: Sure.
[22:49] <g0tcha> bekks, i already read 2 of those links before coming here to ask and they seemed complicated
[22:49] <g0tcha> i rather focus my reading on a method that i know would work for me and learn that
[22:49] <bekks> g0tcha: There is no "easy" full backup.
[22:49] <g0tcha> bekks, uh, trust me, from the search ive been doing, i know that for a fact
[22:49] <g0tcha> that there is no easy way of doing it
[22:49] <ddsss> hitsujiTMO, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6776882/
[22:50] <bekks> g0tcha: Then start reading, as a fact. Start to get into the issue of "a full backup" instead of searching for a copy&paste method.
[22:50] <TJ-> g0tcha: for whole-system online you need snapshots... so maybe LVM-based system ?
[22:50] <RoyK> ddsss: if the plan is to use a 4TB drive with LVM, just create a new PV on that drive
[22:50] <hitsujiTMO> ddsss: there's your problem, mbr partition instead of gpt
[22:51] <ddsss> hitsujiTMO, daaamn.   do u know by any chance if there is a way to change it in-place?
[22:51] <g0tcha> TJ-, this is for the server i have here at home and not for a remote system though
[22:51] <g0tcha> bekki, i didnt ask for a copy/paste way of doing it
[22:51] <bekks> g0tcha: Anyways, you have been given the starting points for further research.
[22:52] <hitsujiTMO> ddsss: http://askubuntu.com/questions/84501/how-can-i-change-convert-a-ubuntu-mbr-drive-to-a-gpt-and-make-ubuntu-boot-from
[22:52] <ddsss> RoyK, i only use lvm on OS drive there. (there are 4 hdds in the system, others 3 are just mounted)
[22:52] <RoyK> ddsss: I use lvm for all sorts
[22:52] <RoyK> that is, lvm for the root and var and so on
[22:53] <RoyK> and lvm on top of the md raid
[22:54] <g0tcha> bekks, one last question then, in your opinion, to run a full backup of a running system, what would you do? just generally speaking, not a 1.2.3 steps
[22:55] <bekks> g0tcha: I'd create a full backup with my tool of choice, based on my particular requirements, constraints knowledge.
[22:55] <g0tcha> bekks, i have to ask, what is your tool of choice?
[22:56] <bekks> "based on my particular requirements, constraints and knowledge".
[22:57] <g0tcha> heheh to be honest, i dont understand why youre being so cryptic about this
[23:01] <hitsujiTMO> !wfm | g0tcha this would be why
[23:01] <androidbruce> hey guys i'm going an install and i'm wondering if it is hung or working
[23:01] <androidbruce> got a good signature from Ubuntu Archive
[23:02] <androidbruce> now it says ini: starting pid 390. tty '/dev/tty2' " -/bin/sh'
[23:04] <androidbruce> strike that it's moving along
[23:16] <g0tcha> thanks for all the help


[18:56] <jawoodwa> anyone lurking know whats up with ddebs bionic-update signature? https://rt.ubuntu.com/Ticket/Display.html?id=61842
[19:13] <tomreyn> jawoodwa: have you tried this from a system not within a corporate network with outbound proxy server?
[19:17] <tomreyn> okay, i see similar on a system which is not https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/HZHTn2CxT5/
[19:19] <tomreyn> and the same on another update https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/VPR9QXrdv4/
[19:23] <jawoodwa> yep, I've seen both as if I'm round robining through a LB
[19:24] <jawoodwa> tomreyn: thanks for the attn


[05:19] <stlsaint> hey is there a bug on why rythmbox cannot connect to store to checkout music
[05:24] <stlsaint> seems it is
[05:29] <stlsaint> wow this sucks
[09:27] <bj0> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/599583
[09:27] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 599583 in ubuntuone-client "files in the "Ubuntu One" folder periodically dissappear (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[09:27] <bj0> just updated it, happend ~30 min ago
[11:11] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[12:46] <pkkm> If I enable bokmarks sync on two computers, will their Firefox bookmarks be merged?
[12:54] <suprengr> no point - bookmarksyncis non-active atm...  see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOne/Status
[13:01] <pkkm> When will bookmarks sync be up?
[13:05] <suprengr> pkkm: sorry.. don't know.  It has been like this for a while.  That question needs to be answered by one of the team or devs I suspect.
[15:37] <saxin> Can anyone tell me how I change channel in irssi when I use ConnectBot? :)
[15:40] <mkarnicki> saxin: /window n (where n is window numer) <Enter>
[15:40] <mkarnicki> saxin: that's not really the best channel to ask, but happens I used ConnectBot with irssi, too :D
[15:41] <mkarnicki> saxin: or, if you haven't joined another channel yet, /join #channel_name
[15:42] <saxin> :)
[15:42] <saxin> i have irssi going on, just had to know how to change between the channels
[15:42] <saxin> with connectbot
[15:43] <saxin> changed so the camera-button was giving the esc command or something... then I pushed n and it changed
[15:44] <saxin> very nice :)
[18:16] <mbrett> i know the contact server is down, but when i log into ubuntu one i only see half my contacts
[18:16] <mbrett> is there any idea where the rest of my contacts are?
[18:16] <mbrett> i have done nothing unusual of late beside run ubuntu and canonical and software updates
[18:17] <mbrett> my email client is evolution
[18:17] <mbrett> oh...sorry....honk
[18:33] <mbrett> honk
[18:48] <mbrett> honk
[19:00] <mkarnicki> mbrett: rye is not around, and it's hard to get support late Sunday. please do come tomorrow, guys will help you for sure :)
[19:00] <mkarnicki> mbrett: maybe they're scaling up couchDB servers and data is distributed, that's why half of them is gone - my best guess.


[00:36] <Atamira> afternoon
[01:52] <ibeardslee> it may seem like dumb question to ask .. but what is the easyist way to find out which ubuntu version is being run?
[01:52] <ibeardslee> less /etc/apt/sources.list doesn't seem to be the most effective
[01:54] <ojwb> lsb-release -v
[01:54] <ojwb> ibeardslee: ^
[01:54] <ojwb> or other options - -v shows everything IIRC
[01:55] <snail> more /etc/lsb-release
[01:55] <ojwb> well, that's the implementation behind the command line tool
[01:55] <ojwb> oh, the tool is lsb_release
[01:56] <ojwb> and it's -a not -v
[02:01] <ibeardslee> ahh I had tried a variation on that .. but failed ;)
[09:34] <chilts> hmm, I want to say morning, but it's still early evening for me
[09:34] <chilts> back tomorrow though, so I'll say an early afternoon then :)
[09:57] <ibeardslee> had a good holiday?
[20:26] <Atamira> morning
[20:31] <ajmitch> morning
[20:46] <ibeardslee> morning
[21:07] <thumper> morning
[21:08] <mwhudson> morning
[21:58] <kcj> Morning.
[22:13] <Pikiora> Morning!


[09:35] <Nothing_Much> How do I report 2 things at the same time?
[09:36] <Nothing_Much> To be more specific, I'm having problems with the XMir display server with radeon.
[15:28] <Nothing_Much> I'm having problems with the XMir display server with radeon, how would I report that bug?.
[15:28] <Nothing_Much> I'm having problems with the XMir display server with radeon, how would I report that bug?
[15:41]  * penguin42 assumes ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-xmir
[18:49] <crude_ronin> hi! please help me understand the status of this:- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1220146
[18:49] <crude_ronin> what is medium, confirmed?
[18:49] <penguin42> crude_ronin: They're statuses and importances
[18:50] <crude_ronin> i posted in this bug page, what is it's status? when would it be fixed?
[18:50] <penguin42> that I can't say, it's in a pile with many other bugs
[18:51] <penguin42> (I'm not the maintainer for that)
[18:51] <crude_ronin> oh, i read a mail in a link there -> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.wireless.general/124693
[18:51] <crude_ronin> please help me understand what is planned?
[18:51] <crude_ronin> in the mail
[18:54] <penguin42> crude_ronin: It sounds like there is a driver somewhere, but that's not in the main kernel or in Ubuntu's kernel and people are just trying to figure out how to get that driver added
[18:54] <penguin42> crude_ronin: The fact a driver exists suggests it should get there reasonably soon
[18:54] <crude_ronin> ok, it makes sense now :)
[18:54] <crude_ronin> thanks man! bye!
[18:55] <penguin42> crude_ronin: Larry Finger seems to be one of the wireless driver maintainers, so the fact he's noticed it is probably also good news
[18:55] <penguin42> oh well