[07:12] <nbound> all ive used chmod for is making run files exectuable
[07:12] <SlashX18966> still not working mrdez...
[07:12] <Vashypooh> Can anyone help me with some Wine Issues
[07:12] <nbound> johndarkhorse, heh i know what a CLI is ;P
[07:12] <luisito> what is a "memory leak"?
[07:12] <tristanmike> I have a Hoary install and I would like to try Breezy, I want to make a backup of my current install. I'd like to have an exact duplicate of what I have now so that when I 'restore' it would be like I just rebooted, is this possible and if so could someone give me some ideas?
[07:12] <majd> weird
[07:12] <_jason> nbound, chmod -R
[07:12] <SlashX18966> when i pigned <IP_ADDRESS> i got connect: network is unreachable
[07:12] <nbound> Vashypooh, what issues?
[07:12] <nbound> _jason, thx
[07:12] <majd> now phpmyadmin works fine, but when i put my own site up...it doesn't work
[07:12] <binarydigit> moodsoft: no one is going to help you until you ask a specific question
[07:12] <digirat> timfrost one sec
[07:13] <Vashypooh> Im trying to load Steam, I got it to load fine, but Steam is reallly slow, and these errors show in console, ima msg so mods dont get upset
[07:13] <moodsoft> luisito, a memory leak, is when a program doesn't release the memory its using when it exits
[07:13] <SlashX18966> Mrdez: =/ ...
[07:13] <mcdenyer> lol
[07:13] <nbound> Vashypooh, check the appdb at winehq
[07:13] <mcdenyer> whats the root pw?
[07:13] <_jason> nbound, you can search man pages if you type '/', your search term, and then enter (n and N to then go to 'next' find)
[07:13] <mcdenyer> cuase my pw wont work lol
[07:13] <Vashypooh> I did, and i followed the guide exactly
[07:13] <SlashX18966> mcdenyer, u chose that when u installed..
[07:14] <mcdenyer> yes but the password i thought i put in doesnt work
[07:14] <luisito> moodsoft, great! thanks
[07:14] <mcdenyer> it says auth failure
[07:14] <killerbird> how do i install fakeroot?
[07:14] <SlashX18966> u thought wrong lol
[07:14] <killerbird> whatever that is?
[07:14] <GeorgeAScott> binary, what do i do after chmod +x?
[07:14] <killerbird> http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s
[07:14] <_jason> killerbird, apt-get install fakeroot
[07:14] <killerbird> thanks
[07:14] <auk> ok
[07:14] <mcdenyer> well is the root pw different from all the other pws?
[07:14] <binarydigit> GeorgeAScott: did you do chmod +x filename.sh ?
[07:14] <adriyel> _jason, he might need a sudo before that m8
[07:15] <_jason> adriyel, he does
[07:15] <GeorgeAScott> haha no
[07:15] <mcdenyer> i only remember putting in one pw during installation
[07:15] <binarydigit> GeorgeAScott: then you can just run the file by saying ./filename.sh
[07:15] <SlashX18966> Mrdez, am i better off just waiting a week or 2, till i get a new rouer
[07:15] <auk> i have just installed ubuntu on my parents comp, with two user accounts
[07:15] <mcdenyer> and the pw works for everything else
[07:15] <mcdenyer> but not this
[07:15] <SlashX18966> mcdenyer, the pw u used to log in should work
[07:15] <binarydigit> yea specifying the filename helps ;)
[07:15] <nemik> i'm going insane with this small laptop. wifi via PCMCIA worked great, so i apt-'got' XFCE and openoffice. worked fine. then when i tried to reboot, it looks like ended everything, but stuck at 'now rebooting...' so i turned it off. not all hell broke loose. system crashes with segmentation fault if i do 'iwlist ath0 scanning' what do i do? reinstall base? start ALL over?
[07:15] <tristanmike> ubotu, tell mcdenyer about root
[07:15] <mcdenyer> yeah it wont work is the wierd thing
[07:15] <_jason> adriyel, i start dropping sudo the later it gets :P
[07:15] <moodsoft> binarydigit, ok. here's my question. I can get the samba daemons to run, but I'm unable to browse to them, smbclient returns it can't help me because of: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
[07:15] <auk> i set upp a bunch of gnome-panel, gnome-menu, nautilus etc settign on one account, but not on the other.
[07:15] <SlashX18966> hm..
[07:15] <auk> i now want to mimic those setting son the other account
[07:15] <varsendagger> in gimp hey how do i make just the layer i am working on grayscaled?
[07:15] <mcdenyer> ok i got it to work
[07:15] <mcdenyer> i used sudo
[07:15] <moodsoft> hi iKernel
[07:15] <adriyel> _jason, I start dropping random words the later it gets, lol
[07:16] <binarydigit> moodsoft: you try googling the error message?
[07:16] <_jason> adriyel, ha
[07:16] <digirat> timfrost: http://pastebin.com/507811 ... but now that i look at it, i think i'm missing something else
[07:16] <majd> Doomhammer, could you give me the code to restart apache again? i lost it =\ sorry
[07:16] <SlashX18966> mrdez, well i gtg... this is my dads laptop and he needs it for work.. thanks for trying to help..
[07:16] <phiber-optic> can anybody help me with the starter gdesklet please??
[07:16] <phiber-optic> ??
[07:16] <auk> and i can't jsut copy the settings dirs over like makes sense because they're populated with magic values :(
[07:16] <moodsoft> binarydigit, not yet, I was hoping to get some interactive help
[07:16] <binarydigit> sorry, don't know much abou tit
[07:16] <adriyel> _jason, point in case, codecs install = sud apt install streamer8-plug
[07:17] <SlashX18966> well il be back in like 1 or 2 weeks...
[07:17] <SlashX18966> bye all
[07:17] <SlashX18966> whenever i get my new router..
[07:17] <bluefoxicy> see
[07:17] <varsendagger> phiber-optic,sudo  apt-get install gdesklets
[07:18] <adriyel> _jason, as you can see, I become rather useless after being conscious for 20 or so hours
[07:18] <nemik> does anyone know how to fix a 'segmentation fault' when using iwlist?
[07:18] <phiber-optic> I have already installed gdesklets
[07:18] <varsendagger> what do you need then?
[07:18] <adriyel> phiber-optic, good lord, you're using THAT name? thats rather cheeky dontcha think? whaddya need m8?
[07:18] <phiber-optic> but theres is an application starter that looks like the apple dock
[07:18] <adriyel> phiber-optic, I had that issue earlier
[07:18] <adriyel> phiber-optic, I can help you
[07:18] <phiber-optic> nicee...
[07:18] <adriyel> phiber-optic, ditch gdesklets, the way I went about it is
[07:19] <adriyel> I created a new panel
[07:19] <adriyel> made it transparent
[07:19] <adriyel> dragged icons onto it
[07:19] <adriyel> then created an applet within the panel that listed apps
[07:19] <adriyel> or, you can customize it however you want
[07:19] <phiber-optic> how do you create a new panel
[07:19] <varsendagger> don't listen to him gdesklets is cool
[07:19] <adriyel> right click on the background
[07:19] <timfrost> digirat, the line 'APXS=' should have a value after the '='.  Several lines in the makefile expect that to be set to a special command
[07:20] <varsendagger> aby ideas on theat gimp problem?
[07:20] <moodsoft> binarydigit, ok, I figured out why i was getting that. now I just need to figure out how to get my client system to see the smb server
[07:20] <adriyel> varsendagger, the applet that everyone gets to emulate OS X functionality is just a glorified shortcut bar, a Gnome Panel offers more functionality, and you don't have to bugger with downloading applets
[07:20] <binarydigit> moodsoft: cool, good luck
[07:20] <adriyel> phiber-optic, correction, sorry, right click on the bottom panel taskbar thingy
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> use wine and the yahoo-dashboard thinggie :P
[07:20] <adriyel> create new panel
[07:20] <adriyel> delete the old panel
[07:20] <adriyel> and customize away
[07:20] <majd> i installed php4-mysql
[07:21] <majd> but it's not showing up in my phpinfo.php file
[07:21] <vb_coder> my screen flashes and gets bright in ubuntu. does anyone know why this happens or how to fix it?
[07:21] <moodsoft> and the client gives me a very unhelpful error message :-( which I have googled and all I could find was people asking what it means lol
[07:21] <phiber-optic> ill try
[07:21] <phiber-optic> but i want it to look like the osx panel
[07:21] <phiber-optic> :(
[07:21] <adriyel> if you make it transparent
[07:21] <adriyel> and use the proper icons, e.t.c.
[07:21] <adriyel> it'll look pretty similar
[07:21] <varsendagger> adriyel, so how do you do the zooming icons?
[07:22] <adriyel> varsendagger, I was getting to that
[07:22] <tristanmike> varsendagger, image->mode->greyscale doesn't work?
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> i hate how the OS-X panel works. :P
[07:22] <varsendagger> just a sec
[07:22] <adriyel> however, if you want less functionality, but with the full effect, I can dig up the applet for you
[07:22] <phiber-optic> yeah that would be good
[07:22] <GeorgeAScott> thanks again binarydigit, i think i finally got it to work...
[07:23] <varsendagger> tristanmike, no it does the whole imiage, not jsut one layer
[07:23] <phiber-optic> I would really appreciate it adriyel
[07:23] <majd> i installed php4-mysql
[07:23] <majd> but it's not showing up in my phpinfo.php file
[07:23] <majd> mysql that is
[07:23] <majd> i also have the client and the servre installed
[07:23] <majd> phpmyadmin works fine
[07:23] <adriyel> I msg'ed you the link phiber-optic, browse thru there
[07:23] <varsendagger> layer colors desaturate
[07:24] <prada> majd: modify php.ini and enable it there ..
[07:24] <adriyel> drag the link you want into gdesklets window and it'll add it
[07:24] <adriyel> have fun
[07:24] <phiber-optic> I didnt receive it
[07:24] <adriyel> bloody...
[07:24] <adriyel> sigh
[07:24] <phiber-optic> Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[07:25] <adriyel> GAH
[07:25] <adriyel> http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/categories.php?func=gd_show_sub_cat&gd_subcat_view=7
[07:25] <adriyel> I am too tired to bugger with tiny-url
[07:25] <phiber_optic> lool
[07:25] <varsendagger> kde does that zooming icons deal pretty well
[07:25] <adriyel> there it is
[07:25] <adriyel> varsendagger, take your KDE evangelism to #kubuntu
[07:25] <varsendagger> adriyel, sorry
[07:25] <theconartist> gnome > KDE!!!!
[07:25] <mcdenyer> hey if my sound is working is surround sound also allreayd installed to?
[07:26] <adriyel> varsendagger, its alright, I prefer KDE on some certain points, but it eats too much processor time for my taste
[07:26] <majd> prada, thanks
[07:26] <phiber_optic> ok adrivel ... I have already starter bar.. But i dont know how to put more prograns in to it
[07:26] <theconartist> dont make me get the ximian monkey to sking feces
[07:26] <mcdenyer> like i have a surround sound capable sound card if im hearing sound out of my speakers does that mean srs is going too?
[07:26] <Toma-> anyone use Audacity? and know how to find the peaks?
[07:26] <adriyel> you click config or manage gdesklets after right clicking on the little gdesklets icon
[07:26] <twitch101> WHATS THE COMMAND TO INSTALL A .DEB FILE
[07:27] <adriyel> click and drag the toolbar into it
[07:27] <adriyel> twitch101, QUIET DOWN, ITS SLEEPY TIME
[07:27] <auk> other than hardcoding in thier config files
[07:27] <twitch101> srry
[07:27] <Toma-> twitch101: caps are for lewsers
[07:27] <twitch101> yea me
[07:27] <Toma-> twitch101: sudo dpkg -i your.deb
[07:27] <digirat> how do i find where apt-get installed apache?
[07:27] <phiber_optic> yeah I did that
[07:27] <auk> digirat, whereis apache
[07:27] <nemik> does anyone know how to fix a 'segmentation fault' when using iwlist?
[07:27] <phiber_optic> put it only adds a little icon
[07:28] <nemik> or any segmentation fault?
[07:28] <Toma-> nemik: report a bug?
[07:28] <nemik> does apt-get install ubuntu-base reinstall?
[07:28] <adriyel> nemik, seg fault eh? heheheh, sounds like a 'sploit waiting to happen. *grins*
[07:28] <guanaco_> I use putty to connect to my linux box.  How do I export my ssh key to my putty client?  This is for security purposes
[07:28] <nemik> adriyel: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=661126 if you're instereste
[07:28] <nemik> d
[07:29] <phiber_optic> anyway to put more icons?
[07:29] <Toma-> nemik: ath0? isnt it eth0?
[07:29] <timfrost> digirat, dpkg -L lists the files in a package
[07:29] <adriyel> nemik, you from BSD land or somethin boy? ath0 is BSD enumeration
[07:30] <nemik> Toma- not on this computer, it is the same thing. but it uses a PCMCIA wifi card
[07:30] <Toma-> weird
[07:30] <vb_coder> my screen flashes and gets bright in ubuntu. does anyone know why this happens or how to fix it?
[07:30] <nemik> no, not from BSD land, ubuntu 'server' install assigned it that name
[07:30] <adriyel> nemik, hahahahaha, thats awesome, iwlist overflows when its scanning and seg faults, gahahaha
[07:30] <nemik> funny for you! :p
[07:30] <Toma-> ...
[07:30] <adriyel> I wonder if you could elevate permissions with that... :)
[07:31] <adriyel> I just think its funny that they screwed up the scan function
[07:31] <Toma-> adriyel: hackers belong on windows.
[07:31] <Toma-> nemik: are they the correct drivers?
[07:31] <nemik> but it worked fine before!!! only after that failed reboot it became crappy like this
[07:31] <adriyel> "hackers belong on windows" ...riiight...
[07:31] <Toma-> and is dmesg saying anything when it seg faults?
[07:31] <adriyel> the original hackers were on DEC hardware, a far cry from some wintel trash
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> Okay, so now that I've got the port forwarding for my router down, a related question:
[07:32] <Toma-> adriyel: i doubt anyone in here cares.
[07:32] <timfrost> guanaco_,  copy your private key file to a safe place, then load it into putty agent (pageant), which sits in the system tray.  pageant reads the openSSH private key file once you enter your passphrase
[07:32] <adriyel> Toma-, don't be unfriendly.
[07:32] <nemik> Toma- drivers were fine, and i don't think xFCE4 (xubuntu-desktop) or open office touched them since it worked after i apt-got those
[07:32] <Toma-> adriyel: just being realistic :)
[07:32] <nemik> it must have been that reboot....did that ever happen to you guys?
[07:32] <mcdenyer> hey how do i set up ubuntu to play movie clips from the internet like movies from ebaumsworld
[07:33] <adriyel> Toma-, apathy is relative, keep your perception of reality to yourself if it ain't gonna brighten my day, clear?
[07:33] <tristanmike> I have a Hoary install and I would like to try Breezy, I want to make a backup of my current install. I'd like to have an exact duplicate of what I have now so that when I 'restore' it would be like I just rebooted, is this possible and if so could someone give me some ideas?
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> If someone connects to the internet through a university network, will they probably have to do port forwarding to use certain programs?  (And how, since they wouldn't have their own router like I do?)
[07:33] <adriyel> WTF
[07:33] <adriyel> spam
[07:33] <guanaco_> Timfrost, Thanks.  do they reside under /etc/ssh?
[07:33] <Toma-> adriyel: notice youre in a help chan?
[07:33] <nemik> pkilled all processes it seemed, sent TERM's, then in LAST step, took forever with "Rebooting now....." so i just pressed power button...bad idea? i didn't think it cared about it at that point?
[07:34] <pmallapp> hi all
[07:34] <varsendagger> hi pmallapp
[07:34] <mcdenyer> what do i use to play video off the net like movies form ebaumsworld.com
[07:34] <Toma-> nemik: are all the settings in /etc/network/interfaces correct?
[07:34] <digirat> how do i go about searching my filesystem for a file?
[07:34] <timfrost> guanaco_, are you talking about personal keys, or the server key?
[07:34] <nemik> mcdenyer, check out automatix
[07:34] <Toma-> lawl ebaum
[07:34] <johndarkhorse> !automatix
[07:34] <ubotu> automatix is, like, messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!, or try !easyubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntu
[07:34] <pmallapp> anybody with mplayer on  a amd64 + dapper and having problems with .mov files? ... solved ? please help me
[07:34] <mcdenyer> nemik ok is it in the package manageR?
[07:34] <prada> tristanmike: you could use dd and backup your partition elsewhere ..
[07:34] <johndarkhorse> nemik: please dont do that
[07:34] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about automatix
[07:35] <guanaco_> the server, I just want to export the key to my putty client
[07:35] <pmallapp> varsendagger, hi
[07:35] <tristanmike> prada, dd??
[07:35] <nemik> automatix worked on every breezy install i have done. so i would recommend it. sorry, just opinion
[07:35] <Toma-> pmallapp: you might find there are no 64bit w32codecs...
[07:35] <prada> tristanmike: dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb .. something like that
[07:35] <prada> it works fine ..
[07:35] <timfrost> guanaco_, the fiurst time you connect to the server, it will show the hash for the server key.  You approve it, and putty will store it in its server keys file
[07:35] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse ubotu says automatix is bad what else can i use
[07:36] <Toma-> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about w32codecs
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, I use the mplayer plugin with firefox.
[07:36] <mcdenyer> ubotu tell nemik about automatix
[07:36] <ogami1972> why automatix bad idea?
[07:36] <nemik> Toma- yes, /etc/network/interfaces seems ok
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, With the codecs mentioned.
[07:36] <pmallapp> Toma-, i do know but i am trying to find out anybody hacked abd got a w64codecs :)
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> ogami1972, Did you see the factoid?
[07:36] <Toma-> hehe w64codecs :D clever
[07:36] <ogami1972> no
[07:37] <tonyyarusso> !tell ogami1972 about automatix
[07:37] <tristanmike> prada, how would I then restore it?
[07:37] <guanaco_> what if I want to store the key permanetly? under putty that is.
[07:37] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso how do i install that and where
[07:37] <Toma-> automatix is horrid, imho.
[07:38] <prada> similar way ... dd if=/dev/hdb of=/dev/hda ...
[07:38] <ogami1972> i haven't had any problems with it- what  should i be looking for?
[07:38] <pmallapp> /etc/init.d/networking restart gives me a "Error: File exists" what the heck
[07:38] <prada> set a good block size though or else it's going to take way too long ..
[07:38] <phiber_optic> was anybody able to configure the starter-bar gdesklet as an OSX one?
[07:38] <nemik> i looked through automatix code and admit it is pretty fragile, but it did work for me
[07:38] <prada> and be careful ;)
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, For the codecs, use the link in your message from ubotu.  You can get mplayer and its plugin with 'sudo apt-get install mplayer-386 mozilla-mplayer'.
[07:39] <nemik> thanks for the tip about easyubuntu though, may have to try that next time
[07:39] <timfrost> guanaco_, the server public key *is* stored permanaently by putty.  The putty directory has two files (authorized_keys and authorized_keys2), where it saves SSH type 1 and type 2 keys respectively.
[07:39] <tristanmike> prada, interesting, and this would basically take a snapshot of my partition and all I would have to to is the second command to copy over a clean install of Hoary to get me back to snuff?
[07:39] <prada> tristanmike: yup ... I've done this, so it works !
[07:39] <vb_coder> do i need a driver or any configuration in ubuntu to use a microphone?
[07:39] <timfrost> guanaco_, or else the keys are stored in the registry
[07:40] <tristanmike> prada, does this perserve permissions too?
[07:40] <prada> tristanmike: everything ... it's a clone
[07:40] <tristanmike> prada, cool, and out of curiosity, why type of file does it create?
[07:40] <Toma-> nemik: looks like iwlist is a bit annoying for other ppl too. (http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=363456)
[07:41] <guanaco_> Thanks, Timfrost
[07:41] <prada> tristanmike: I'm not too sure about the file type ... prpbably iso or something.
[07:41] <phiber_optic> was anybody able to configure the starter-bar gdesklet as an OSX one?
[07:42] <prada> tristanmike: just be careful with the partitions ...
[07:42] <nemik> Toma- thanks for that link! may have try that last script he posted
[07:42] <phiber_optic> I would really appreciate if anyone can help me
[07:42] <Toma-> nemik: Obviously make it in english tho ;D
[07:43] <nemik> Toma- yes, of course! :D
[07:43] <tristanmike> prada, does this backup my mounted fat32 partition, which would be no good?
[07:43] <theneonshadow> can wmv files be played on linux?
[07:43] <Toma-> now i forgot what i was doing in audacity :(
[07:43] <Toma-> theneonshadow: yep
[07:44] <Toma-> ubotu: tell theneonshadow about w32codecs
[07:44] <nemik> Toma- though this confuses me: insmod /lib/modules/2.6.12-11mdkcustom/net/zd1211_mod.ko not sure if ubuntu would take that...
[07:44] <prada> tristanmike: I'm pretty sure the mounted filesystems aren't read. so if you have different partitions for /home say, you'll have to clone those seperately
[07:44] <Toma-> nemik: no way.
[07:44] <nemik> Toma- that's what i thought
[07:44] <timfrost> prada, tristanmike, that dd command just does a raw image copy of the source partition.
[07:44] <Toma-> nemik: just replace that with "modprobe your_driver"
[07:45] <prada> tristanmike: do not try to clone a mounted partition ...
[07:45] <tristanmike> timfrost, does that meet my ends tho?
[07:45] <prada> tristanmike: use a live cd or somthing
[07:45] <theneonshadow> great thanks Toma
[07:45] <MrDez> !w32codecs
[07:45] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[07:45] <tristanmike> prada, can I bother you to take a look at something?
[07:45] <Toma-> theneonshadow: np.
[07:45] <vb_coder> my mic isnt working in ubuntu. is there something i can do to get it working?
[07:46] <prada> tristanmike: sure ...
[07:46] <tristanmike> prada, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BackupYourSystem
[07:46] <Toma-> vb_coder: have you un-muted it? (run 'alsamixer' in a terminal)
[07:46] <tristanmike> prada, I find this somewhat confusing
[07:48] <prada> tristanmike: yikes !! ... that would work too, but I still prefer the dd method.It's simpler and works great ..
[07:48] <tristanmike> prada, the question that I have, is why are they excluding any folder?
[07:49] <prada> tristanmike: mostly tmp directories and mounted filesystems ... they are pretty useless in a backup expecially /proc
[07:50] <plastic> hi all
[07:50] <plastic> I'm having some trouble upgrading from Hoary to Breezy
[07:50] <auk> ubotu fan
[07:50] <ubotu> auk: Not a clue
[07:50] <auk> ubotu cooling fan
[07:50] <ubotu> auk: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:50] <plastic> it should be possible to do without downloading the full Breezy CD, tight?
[07:50] <tristanmike> prada, yeah, I guess I just don't understand the purpose of the folders that why I wonder, but does it hurt if I just back up / even those "un-needed " ones? Also, do I have to be in a live CD to do that one too?
[07:51] <tonyyarusso> tristanmike, Where are you putting your backup?  I did a backup recently, and was looking for good ways to do it - eventually settled on rsync, which was fabulous for my needs.
[07:51] <tonyyarusso> plastic, Yeppers.
[07:51] <nemik> Toma- would apt-get install ubuntu-base do a re-install off the CDROM if i had the CD in the drive?
[07:52] <digirat> how do you apt-get uninstall something?
[07:52] <tristanmike> tonyyarusso, well, I'd assume that a compressed version of my partiton can't be over a DVD, so I was going to save it to my fat32 partition, burn it, install Breezy and hopefully never look back, but incase I do....
[07:52] <Toma-> hmmm probably not
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> plastic, Just change every instance of hoary to breezy in your apt sources, then do 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'.
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> !breezy
[07:52] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:52] <prada> tristanmike: they're virtual filesystems and aren't present on the disk /proc /sys etc ..
[07:52] <Toma-> nemik: "apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-base" might...
[07:52] <tristanmike> tonyyarusso, I'd perfer a clean Breezy install rather than an upgrade
[07:52] <vb_coder> i run alsamixer and pushed right arrow to get to my mic, at the top it says item mic [off]  how can i turn it on?
[07:52] <Toma-> vb_coder: press M
[07:52] <kestasworkacc> vb_coder: enter, or m or something
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> tristanmike, I see.
[07:52] <nemik> Toma- great! thanks!
[07:52] <tristanmike> prada, so I could delete them now, and reboot and they will replace themselves?
[07:53] <Toma-> nemik: hope it works! :D
[07:53] <prada> tristanmike: yup !
[07:53] <nemik> Toma- thanks!
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> tristanmike, (That other link was for plastic)
[07:53] <vb_coder> how do i exit and save from alsamixer?
[07:53] <Toma-> np
[07:53] <benplaut> anyone know of a text editor similar to SciTE, but more configurable?
[07:53] <Toma-> vb_coder: press x
[07:53] <kestasworkacc> vb_coder: try the obvious keys
[07:53] <kestasworkacc> vb_coder: not hard
[07:54] <Toma-> vb_coder: press ESC, sorry
[07:54] <tristanmike> tonyyarusso, ahh, ic, but still, that's my reason, lol
[07:55] <tristanmike> prada, so it doesn't hurt if I'm uber-paranoid and back up every file/folder on my system and a simple copy over a clean install will put me back to square one? is that right?
[07:56] <Toma-> dont backup /proc or /sys
[07:56] <kestasworkacc> thats asking for trouble
[07:56] <johndarkhorse> tristanmike: nope.
[07:56] <Toma-> and make sure you dont have any hdd mounted under /media or /mnt
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> So how much do tar/bzip compress things anyway?  As a ratio zipped:original.
[07:57] <kestasworkacc> tonyyarusso: depends on what you're compressing obviously
[07:57] <johndarkhorse> tristanmike: you'll move from your backup back into your current install a piece at a time
[07:57] <prada> tristanmike: dd does exactly that, if you're planning to use it that is
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> kestasworkacc, Maybe on average, for say backing up an entire disk as is being discussed by others.
[07:57] <kestasworkacc> if it's /dev/random you'll get about 1:1, if it's /dev/zero you'll get 1:a million
[07:57] <prada> tristanmike: dd does a raw copy, so WHATEVER is on the partion gets backed up/cloned
[07:58] <kestasworkacc> tonyyarusso: not sure, never tried it
[07:58] <jrattner1> Is there a program besides chbg that will do what "Slideshow" does under KDE
[07:58] <johndarkhorse> jrattner1: you can script 'feh' to do it.
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> !info chbg
[07:58] <ubotu> chbg: (tool for changing the desktop background image in X11), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 1.5-6 (breezy), Packaged size: 244 kB, Installed size: 988 kB
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> Huh.  cool.
[07:59] <jrattner1> tonyyarusso, chgb is broken
[07:59] <jrattner1> johndarkhorse, feh?
[08:00] <digirat> configure: error: ...No recognized SSL/TLS toolkit detected
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> jrattner1, That's too bad, sounds cool.  I've been thinking about following the directions in a book I have of 'Gnome hacks' to do just that, so until it gets fixed, I guess I'll stick with that route.
[08:00] <Mestapheles> I install a minimal ubuntu and installed "foomatic-gimp-print cupsys and gnome-cups-manager" but I can't get my supported printer to work.  Is there a problem with minimal installs and printer support?
[08:00] <phos-phoros> say for instance  I  have mounted a new hdd to /mnt/somedrive, if I were to install Ubuntu for some strange reason...the data residing on /dev/hdb1 that is mounted via /mnt/somedrive will still be intact unless otherwise chosen to delete the partitions/format/mkfs, just that I would have to edit fstab and remount /mnt/somedrive after the new installation, correct?
[08:00] <mcdenyer> hey
[08:00] <johndarkhorse> !info feh
[08:00] <mcdenyer> can somone give me a link to a good source list for breezy
[08:00] <ubotu> feh: (imlib2 based image viewer), section universe/graphics, is optional.   (From !sources)
[08:01] <jrattner1> johndarkhorse, how long do you think that would be?
[08:01] <mcdenyer> i need a good source list for breezy
[08:02] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso ok yeah thats what i have
[08:02] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about sources
[08:02] <timfrost> digirat, install libssl-dev
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, I can give you mine too if you'd like.
[08:02] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso can u help me get my w32 codecs going ?
[08:02] <jrattner1> johndarkhorse, ?
[08:02] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso ok
[08:02] <mud_> is there easy way to make vcd from dvd?
[08:03] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso u have aim or msn?
[08:03] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, Yeah, both.  pm me if you'd prefer that to get through your codecs.
[08:04] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso how do i pm with xchat?
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, Actually, who am I kidding?  That would be silly.  tonyyarusso on AIM.
[08:04] <johndarkhorse> jrattner1: i get off work in 10 hours and 55 minutes
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, For reference though, /msg nick Your message here.
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, (And you have to be registered to do it in this channel.)
[08:05] <jrattner1> johndarkhorse, do you think you will remember to do it
[08:05] <jrattner1> johndarkhorse, ok i got it :) thank you
[08:05] <phos-phoros> mcdenyer, why not read and follow the advice/directions here http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[08:06] <johndarkhorse> !ubuntuguide
[08:06] <ubotu> hmm... ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[08:06] <varsendagger> hey can windows machiens view .png files?
[08:06] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about restricted
[08:06] <johndarkhorse> varsendagger: yes they can.
[08:08] <phos-phoros> say for instance  I  have mounted a new hdd to /mnt/somedrive, if I were to re-install Ubuntu for some strange reason...the data residing on /dev/hdb1 that is mounted via /mnt/somedrive will still be intact unless otherwise chosen to delete the partitions/format/mkfs, just that I would have to edit fstab and remount /mnt/somedrive after the new installation, correct?
[08:08] <phos-phoros> this is a correct assumption, right?
[08:08] <jrattner1> Anyone good with java, who is bored?
[08:08] <prada> phos-phoros: yep ..
[08:09] <phos-phoros> prada, thanks
[08:10] <Brax-Sleep> I need a suggestion if anyone isn't busy. I'm going to be switching my gaming machine over to linux and I would like some recommendations for which distro. I've used slackware and loved it along with kubuntu... but is there anything else that's better?
[08:11] <johndarkhorse> Brax-Sleep: 'better' is in the hands of the user
[08:11] <Brax-Sleep> True
[08:12] <Brax-Sleep> Then let me refine my question
[08:12] <Brax-Sleep> A distro that doesn't require way too much work to setup
[08:12] <Brax-Sleep> Along with that one that's compatible with almost everything
[08:13] <kevin> hello
[08:13] <Toma-> Brax-Sleep: slackware is probably the best if your FPS mad
[08:13] <Brax-Sleep> That's what i've been told
[08:13] <kevin> how do i get into a politcal chat room pplz?
[08:13] <Brax-Sleep> What's the reasoning for that though?
[08:13] <moodog> Morning all.
[08:14] <Toma-> Brax-Sleep: kernel 2.4 is more compatible with the old loki games and recent ones, and also it alot lighter in regards to kernel.
[08:14] <Brax-Sleep> I tried cedega a while back and it seemed to have alot of issues with cs:s
[08:14] <cafuego> kevin: Just say you voted for George Bush.
[08:14] <Brax-Sleep> Any clue if that's slackware related
[08:14] <Brax-Sleep> Or cedega
[08:14] <phos-phoros> embarassingly so.
[08:14] <johndarkhorse> cafuego: #ubuntu-offtopic with that, please
[08:15] <johndarkhorse> kevin: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:16] <foxiness> hi,after i do update for ubuntu ,then i can not get Gaim work "Reading error"
[08:16] <cafuego> Brax-Sleep: it's a windows app, not much chance it'll run perfectly on a non-windows OS.
[08:16] <Brax-Sleep> True but I mean
[08:16] <Brax-Sleep> If they are advertising it
[08:16] <Brax-Sleep> And showing it works with very few errors
[08:16] <Brax-Sleep> And I run it with thousands of errors
[08:17] <Brax-Sleep> Graphical errors coming out of the ass
[08:17] <cafuego> Brax-Sleep: A company that sells proprietary software is advertising it. They aim to make money.
[08:17] <Brax-Sleep> Of course
[08:17] <Toma-> i found i could get a good framerate with slackware, as opposed to fedora or ubuntu
[08:17] <Brax-Sleep> But I seriously think that it works because other people say it doesn't shit out for them
[08:18] <Toma-> GTA3 ran faster on slackware than fedora for me. it was even faster than windows
[08:18] <Brax-Sleep> Did you have any graphical issues?
[08:18] <Toma-> nope
[08:18] <Brax-Sleep> I thought so
[08:18] <Brax-Sleep> -_-
[08:18] <Toma-> that was a 32mb tnt2 aswell
[08:18] <Brax-Sleep> LOL
[08:18] <cafuego> Brax-Sleep: Do you have an ati card?
[08:18] <Brax-Sleep> I've got a gefoce 7800gtx
[08:18] <Toma-> :)
[08:18] <Brax-Sleep> geforce*
[08:18] <Brax-Sleep> ;)
[08:19] <menko> quick question, would the menu in fluxbox be the same as the menu in kde if I installed it? Becuase I noticed the menus in the gnome panel are very different to the fluxbox menu I have
[08:19] <foxiness> why when i put q here no one answer me !
[08:19] <cafuego> foxiness: Maybe nobody knows the answer?
[08:19] <Toma-> Brax-Sleep: the only problem ive even had with games, is that all the ID stuff doesnt play nice with alsa, so i have to do some sudo tee magic to get sopund working fine
[08:19] <ardchoille> menko: you will need to set up the fluxbox menu manually.
[08:19] <Brax-Sleep> Oh that's another question
[08:20] <menko> ardchoille: would kde be the same?
[08:20] <Brax-Sleep> Is there ANY way to have it so you can play more than 1 sound at once
[08:20] <Brax-Sleep> Like game + listen to xmms
[08:20] <borisattva> hey guys. i'm figuring out the linux installation process, and i'm noticing that some times applicatyions claim that a pacakge is not present, when it is. and when i install the package-dev that goes away. am i remediing this right? and if so, why doenst the config process just tell us that package-dev is not met ?
[08:20] <Toma-> Brax-Sleep: yep, dmix
[08:20] <Brax-Sleep> I'll have to come back here when I'm at that point
[08:20] <Brax-Sleep> Because that always pissed me off
[08:20] <ardchoille> menko: no, it's not the same menu as kde or as gnome. it is a menu file all onits own
[08:20] <menko> because here in mandriva there is a menu editor that effects the menus in all the window manager, just wondering how it works in ubuntu
[08:20] <foxiness> the gaim not work with me is there other one ,to use on gnome ?
[08:21] <phos-phoros> Brax-Sleep, you might check http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=1554&iTestingId=753 for more info on installing steam via wine
[08:21] <Toma-> Brax-Sleep: good luck finding something on dmix :)
[08:21] <ardchoille> menko: there is a menu editor that can help you edit the fluxbox menu, it's called fluxmenu
[08:21] <Toma-> !dmix
[08:21] <ubotu> I guess dmix is first try system>prefrences>multimedia system selector change it to alsa. for oss application type aoss <appl name> if still have problems then http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:21] <Toma-> ooooo
[08:21] <Toma-> there u go
[08:21] <tristanmike> g'd night all
[08:22] <timfrost> borisattva, if you are running a program somebody else packages, you don't need the -dev package.  If you are compiling it from source, you need the -dev package for each library that your app depends on.
[08:22] <Brax-Sleep> bookmarked that dmix howto
[08:22] <Brax-Sleep> Looks interesting
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[08:22] <Toma-> Brax-Sleep: cool. :) look for me when/if you need the command to get ID games working
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[08:22] <borisattva> right, so why doenst the configure process just state that package-dev presence is not met, and instead make it confusing saying pacakge itself is not met?
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[08:23] <borisattva> when it is. etc
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[08:23] <Toma-> !ops
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[08:23] <Brax-Sleep> LoL?
[08:23] <Toma-> cool.
[08:24] <Toma-> bit slow ops :S
[08:24] <borisattva> timfrost: right, so why doenst the configure process just state that package-dev presence is not met, and instead make it confusing saying pacakge itself is not met?
[08:24] <crimsun> borisattva: not all distros use the -dev package naming scheme
[08:25] <Burgundavia> please don't send people to #ubuntu-laptop or #ubuntu-devel with support requests
[08:25] <Burgundavia> or #ubuntu-bugs and #ubuntu-desktop for that matter
[08:25] <Toma-> Burgundavia: wouldnt dream of it
[08:25] <foxiness> what is the best IM on linux ?
[08:25] <Kovecses> is ubuntu a community project?
[08:25] <Brax-Sleep> gaim
[08:25] <timfrost> borisattva, some distributions (RH, Mandriva, slackware) package the dev libraries in with the run-time libraries.  Most configre scripts assume that behaviour, rather than the debian/ubuntu separatin
[08:25] <mcdenyer> when u unpack somehitng does it install it or just unpack it?
[08:25] <borisattva> linux distros ? or distros of those applications
[08:25] <Kovecses> gaim
[08:25] <Toma-> foxiness: for what protocol?
[08:26] <borisattva> i see
[08:26] <adriyel> crimsun, I need your help with my sound
[08:26] <borisattva> thanks tim/crimsun
[08:26] <adriyel> crimsun, heard you were Lord of audio, soooo
[08:26] <Toma-> mcdenyer: how did you "unpack" this file?
[08:26] <foxiness> Toma-, msn and if it can deal with gmail it will good
[08:26] <adriyel> crimsun, I have an NVIDIA AC 97, built into an A8N-SLI board
[08:26] <adriyel> 5.1 surround
[08:26] <crimsun> adriyel: I'm extremely tired, having been on the interstate for most of the day
[08:26] <adriyel> whats it take to get the surround working?
[08:27] <adriyel>  :(
[08:27] <Toma-> foxiness: im using amsn for MSN, its got webcam and nudge support... and yeh, it can do gmail
[08:27] <crimsun> adriyel: what speaker config are you trying? 4.0? 5.1?
[08:27] <Toma-> foxiness: with amsn + gmail, you need the "pop3" plugin available from their website, then just set it up to look at pop.gmail.com and so on
[08:28] <Toma-> bbl, checking final master of my bands cd ^_^
[08:28] <Toma-> i <3 oss
[08:28] <adriyel> crimsun, 5.1 surround, logitech X-530 system
[08:29] <LinuxNT> Good day! I need to configure my laptop to display a 800 x 600 resolution. During install the system question me about the resolution desired. I checked 1024 x 768, 800 x 600 and 640 x 480. But the system display only 640 x 480. I need as preference 800 x 600 but need orientation to do it? Some you help me?
[08:29] <adriyel> crimsun, I killed ESD, switched everything to alsa, nothing changed
[08:29] <crimsun> adriyel: are you using plug:surround51?
[08:30] <foxiness> Toma-, wow ,great this what i want :) am download the amsn now and then i will check the plugin
[08:30] <adriyel> crimsun, clueless, whatcha talkin about?
[08:30] <foxiness> Toma-, TIA
[08:30] <crimsun> adriyel: pastebin the output from ``amixer''
[08:30] <adriyel> why don't you just ask me the relevant sound levels?
[08:30] <adriyel> and what is and is not switched on?
[08:31] <adriyel> sigh
[08:31] <crimsun> adriyel: because I don't know what your element names are. What do you want me to do, guess?
[08:31] <adriyel> whats the link for pastebin, its a .nl something
[08:31] <Toma-> foxiness: make sure you get the latest one from their site
[08:32] <Toma-> !pastebin
[08:32] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:32] <adriyel> thank yahs
[08:32] <adriyel> it'll be right up
[08:32] <Toma-> no prabs :D
[08:32] <foxiness> Toma-, oh i get it form ubuntu repos ,is it .deb or source ?
[08:32] <Toma-> foxiness: its a deb
[08:32] <adriyel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7199
[08:32] <adriyel> have at it crim
[08:32] <johndarkhorse> foxiness: source is always best, if you can compile it
[08:32] <adriyel> what was that plug:surround51 you mentioned?
[08:33] <Burgundavia> LinuxNT, are you running Dapper? The system should not have asked you about X config at install
[08:33] <Toma-> foxiness: get the ubuntu deb file from the amsn site, not the source >_>
[08:34] <crimsun> adriyel: first, are you using the optical output through a digital receiver, or are your headphones/speakers connected to the sound card's jacks directly?
[08:34] <adriyel> crimsun, its plugged into the jacks directly
[08:35] <adriyel> front speaks into normal green jack (for stereo), black into the violet/light something one for rear speaks, orange into orange speak for center
[08:35] <foxiness> johndarkhorse, :) forget me about this but i hate to do something from source ,but if you late me know why it the best ,i will change may mind "maybe".
[08:35] <crimsun> adriyel: then you need to make at least the following adjustment: amixer sset 'IEC958' off
[08:35] <adriyel> should duplicate front be on?
[08:36] <crimsun> adriyel: that's up to you, it's not that important currently
[08:36] <phiber-optic> does any knows how to change the default web page in mozilla when its on the starter panel gdesklet?
[08:36] <adriyel> should jack mode be independent or shared?
[08:36] <foxiness> Toma-, am on the way :)
[08:36] <sethk> foxiness, johndarkhorse, you lose the automatic handling of dependencies, but you are guaranteed that what you have is correctly compiled for your environment
[08:36] <Toma-> foxiness: cool :D
[08:36] <crimsun> adriyel: you probably want shared, but it, too, isn't critical now
[08:37] <adriyel> crimsun, ok, what next?
[08:37] <crimsun> adriyel: aplay -Dplug:surround51 /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[08:37] <Toma-> you can also get the source or whatever you compiled to be regsitered into your apt-get database, with the "checkinstall" command instead of make install
[08:37] <kestasworkacc> yeah all these compiled packages, you never know whether or not thyell work in your environment
[08:38] <adriyel> played on 2 channels crimsun
[08:38] <adriyel> well, 2.1 anyways
[08:38] <crimsun> adriyel: which, LFE? Center?
[08:38] <adriyel> the front speakers, left and right ones
[08:38] <adriyel> the stereo default ones
[08:39] <johndarkhorse> foxiness: if there is a deb-src URL you can have your local apt-get build the thing locally for you.
[08:39] <adriyel> Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/startup.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
[08:39] <adriyel> it says that after playing aplay crimsun, its playing in stereo
[08:39] <Toma-> johndarkhorse: the ubuntu deb works fine for breezy... i built it for the amsn team myself..
[08:39] <whatwhat> good morning
[08:39] <johndarkhorse> Toma-: ah, great!
[08:40] <Toma-> ;)
[08:40] <crimsun> adriyel: ok, sec
[08:40] <robotgeek> johndarkhorse: i built the one for the amsn ppc :)
[08:40] <phiber-optic> does anybody know what is the default firefox starting page??
[08:40] <Toma-> :P
[08:40] <adriyel> what does endianness have to do with wav playback? meh, audio binary.
[08:41] <adriyel> phiber-optic, edit preferences in mozilla firefox
[08:41] <Toma-> !mythtv
[08:41] <ubotu> well, mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[08:41] <phiber-optic> yeah I know but I want to recover the old ones
[08:42] <crimsun> adriyel: do you get the same result with -Dsurround40 and -Dsurround51 ?
[08:42] <adriyel> testing
[08:42] <timfrost> phiber-optic, on breezy, file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html
[08:43] <adriyel> crimsun, near as I can tell, yeah
[08:44] <adriyel> crimsun, issue I see is that aplay isn't attempting to play surround, it keeps showing stereo when it plays something back
[08:44] <adriyel> thats just one issue...
[08:44] <adriyel> totem has same behavior though, and it is set to 5.1
[08:44] <GeorgeAScott> hey guys
[08:44] <thisplayer> hello
[08:45] <phiber-optic> what is the command to copy a directory?
[08:45] <adriyel> cp
[08:45] <GeorgeAScott> i did get access to my other drive earlier... but i still can't get the mp3s on it to play
[08:45] <Daemonic> is there any way to allow ssh access to my ubuntu when booted off the livecd? (amd64 livecd)
[08:45] <adriyel> ubotu tell GeorgeAScott about restricted formats
[08:46] <johndarkhorse> Daemonic: use apt-get to install 'ssh' pkg
[08:46] <thisplayer> anybody know how to make the ls color scheme through ssh? i've tried editting the .bashrc and even the ~/.ssh/rc...whenever i ssh in, the only time i can get colored ls is if i run $bash
[08:46] <yshsu168> Does anyone have suggest about driving winbond 6992 based ISDN PCI card in Breezy???
[08:46] <adriyel> yay, a winmodem.
[08:47] <crimsun> adriyel: do you have Xine installed?
[08:47] <phiber-optic> I get the following error
[08:47] <crimsun> either totem-xine or xine-ui
[08:47] <phiber-optic> cp: omitting directory `Winamp5-XMMS/'
[08:47] <adriyel> no, not atm
[08:47] <adriyel> its not in the repos either :|
[08:47] <GeorgeAScott> this file is not an audio stream
[08:48] <crimsun> !info totem-xine
[08:48] <ubotu> totem-xine: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on xine), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 776 kB, Installed size: 4492 kB
[08:48] <GeorgeAScott> and im not either for that matter
[08:48] <crimsun> !info xine-ui
[08:48] <ubotu> xine-ui: (the xine video player, user interface), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.99.3-1ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 1680 kB, Installed size: 3416 kB
[08:48] <phiber-optic> adriyel I cant copy a folder
[08:48] <adriyel> its installing
[08:48] <adriyel> phiber-optic, is it restricted, or are you forgetting to copy recursively?
[08:49] <adriyel> crimsun, fired up xine
[08:49] <phiber-optic> I dont think its restricted
[08:49] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell phiber-optic about cli
[08:49] <adriyel> what am I doing? already set sound to 5.1
[08:49] <crimsun> adriyel: does a test result in the same plain stereo?
[08:49] <thisplayer>  anybody know how to make the ls color scheme through ssh? i've tried editting the .bashrc and even the ~/.ssh/rc...whenever i ssh in, the only time i can get colored ls is if i run $bash
[08:50] <adriyel> hold on
[08:50] <GeorgeAScott> ok... so in my fstab i need to set files on that drive to be executable?
[08:50] <Sp4rKy> hi everybody
[08:50] <timfrost> phiber-optic, cp -r
[08:50] <phiber-optic> ok
[08:50] <phiber-optic> thanx
[08:50] <adriyel> crimsun, yeah
[08:50] <phiber-optic> i was missing -r
[08:50] <adriyel> played an Mp3, got stereo
[08:50] <phiber-optic> I forgot it
[08:50] <phiber-optic> my bad
[08:51] <phiber-optic> Im off...
[08:51] <phiber-optic> Everyone good nite
[08:51] <GeorgeAScott> g'nite
[08:51] <adriyel> phiber-optic, told you to copy recursively
[08:51] <adriyel>  :|
[08:51] <phiber-optic> sorry adriyel
[08:51] <phiber-optic> ;)
[08:51] <robotgeek> thisplayer: look at your .bashrc and put in your .bashrc on the ssh server
[08:52] <adriyel> its cool
[08:52] <thisplayer> robotgeek: not sure i exactly follow you
[08:52] <adriyel> crimsun, yeah, just stereo under xine
[08:52] <Sp4rKy> i search anyone to make better my english
[08:52] <robotgeek> thisplayer: in your ubuntu, you should have a file ~/.bashrc
[08:52] <thisplayer> robotgeek: correct
[08:52] <Sp4rKy> talking with him/her with mail
[08:53] <robotgeek> it has options related to colors, just put those lines in your .bashrc on the ssh server
[08:53] <crimsun> adriyel: what options do you have for 'Channel Mode'?
[08:53] <thisplayer> robotgeek: are you referring to the alias?
[08:53] <robotgeek> thisplayer: http://pastebin.com/507870
[08:54] <katie^> katie@Mistress:~/Desktop$ wine Firefox\ Setup\ 1.5.exe...The program must close to allow a previous installation attempt to complete.   Sorry.  I guess i can do it with IE, but ive already tried installing firefox
[08:57] <katie^> and don't particularly like IE
[08:57] <katie^> lol
[08:57] <blue-frog> GeorgeAScott, vlc
[08:57] <adriyel> ubotu tell GeorgeAScott about restricted formats
[08:57] <robotgeek> GeorgeAScott: i guess beep-media-player has a plugin too
[08:57] <adriyel> I am not telling you again GeorgeAScott, your answers have been sent to you
[08:57] <Burgundavia> GeorgeAScott, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:58] <adriyel> Burgundavia, way ahead of you twice-fold
[08:58] <adriyel> I've told him to go there twice now
[08:58] <thisplayer> robotgeek: hmm..still not working, pasted your code into both .bashrc and .ssh/rc
[08:58] <robotgeek> GeorgeAScott: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79539
[08:58] <GeorgeAScott> oh sorry... i didn't see it up there////
[08:58] <GeorgeAScott> please don't yell..
[08:58] <crimsun> adriyel: hmm, what's your audio line from ``lspci -v |grep -i audio'' ?
[08:59] <adriyel> sigh, its alright
[08:59] <adriyel> 0000:00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0059 (rev a2)
[08:59] <thisplayer> is .ssh/rc the correct file to edit for ssh startup script?
[08:59] <adriyel> NVIDIA AC 97...
[08:59] <robotgeek> thisplayer: hmm, type "ls --color=auto -l"
[09:01] <robotgeek> thisplayer: also "echo $TERM" on the ssh server
[09:01] <thisplayer> robotgeek: beginning or end for $TERM..?
[09:01] <katie^> well, how do i run ANY program with wine? I mean, im stuck :(
[09:01] <crimsun> adriyel: ok, in the output of ``lspci -nv'', what is the Subsystem line below ``lspci -nv |grep 0401''?
[09:01] <Burgundavia> katie^, #winehq might be able to help you more
[09:02] <robotgeek> thisplayer: just type those in, not in any .rc file
[09:02] <katie^> Thanks
[09:02] <SperMite> how would install a file like this: et-linux-2.60.x86.run ?
[09:02] <thisplayer> oo..
[09:02] <thisplayer> xterm
[09:03] <thisplayer> robotgeek: that means i should be editting an xtermrc correct?
[09:03] <robotgeek> thisplayer: maybe you need to use xterm color, i am not sure
[09:04] <kestasworkacc> SperMite: looks like a regular binary
[09:04] <thisplayer> robotgeek: any idea how to switch from xterm to bash at startup?
[09:04] <kestasworkacc> SperMite: chmod 700 et-..; ./et-..
[09:04] <sethk> thisplayer, that makes no sense.  xterm is a terminal emulation program.  bash is a shell.
[09:04] <kestasworkacc> SperMite: for future reference you can check this with the file command
[09:05] <sethk> thisplayer, almost certainly you are running bash within an xterm.
[09:05] <adriyel> 0000:00:04.0 0401: 10de:0059 (rev a2)
[09:05] <adriyel> sorry for delay crimsun
[09:05] <robotgeek> thisplayer: i think it only depends on your settings in the bashrc on the server. settings will apply when you login again :)
[09:05] <crimsun> adriyel: np, sec
[09:06] <thisplayer> sethk: oo..i see..
[09:06] <thisplayer> so would you happen to know why when i type bash after i've logged in through ssh, everything works fine?
[09:06] <SperMite> kestasworkac ok thanks man
[09:06] <TraceGreen> adriyel, what's your problem?
[09:06] <TraceGreen> adriyel, sound ?
[09:06] <sethk> thisplayer, because your initial shell is a login shell, and the next shell is a non-login shell, and they use different configuration files
[09:06] <robotgeek> thisplayer: maybe "echo $SHELL"
[09:06] <sethk> thisplayer, login shells use .bash_login, other shells use .bashrc
[09:06] <YeTr2> getting an apt-get error, apt-get: relocation error: /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6.so.3.10: symbol _ZSt5flushIcSt11char_traitsIcEERSt13basic_ostreamIT_P0_ES6_, version GLIBCXX_3.4 not defined in file libstdc++.so.6 with link time reference
[09:06] <sethk> thisplayer, there are some other files but those are the most common
[09:07] <robotgeek> sethk: maybe the default shell is not bash too
[09:07] <sethk> thisplayer, what I always do is source .bashrc in .bash_profile, (or v.v, it doesn't matter)
[09:07] <adriyel> TraceGreen, yeah, surround sound not working]
[09:07] <sethk> robotgeek, highly unlikely.  I change my default shell, but new users don't
[09:07] <robotgeek> sethk: it's on a different server , maybe they are not using bash?
[09:08] <crimsun> adriyel: to reiterate, you're not hearing anything in the rear channels, correct?
[09:08] <sethk> robotgeek, sure, that's possible
[09:08] <sethk> robotgeek, I didn't realize it was a different machine
[09:08] <thisplayer> "echo $SHELL" returns /bin/bash
[09:08] <thisplayer> wierd
[09:08] <sethk> robotgeek, it is easy enough to find out, just do  echo $SHELL
[09:08] <TraceGreen> adriyel, you may try to use alsamixer and have a look
[09:08] <sethk> thisplayer, not weird at all.  as I said, the login shell sources different config files.  This is a very very common problem/question
[09:09] <sethk> thisplayer, you can validate it by using the flag that tells bash to act like a login shell, even if it isn't
[09:09] <adriyel> crimsun, yeah
[09:09] <thisplayer> sethk: how would i do this?
[09:09] <adriyel> TraceGreen, way way way ahead of you mate
[09:09] <robotgeek> sethk: good info there
[09:09] <sethk> thisplayer, let me check the man page
[09:10] <sethk> thisplayer, in man bash, you'll find a section INVOCATION, that has some good details about how all of this works
[09:10] <Toma-> the standard ubuntu packages for mythtv arny broken are they? or is it just my system...
[09:10] <sethk> thisplayer, I believe the -l flag tells bash to act as a login shell
[09:10] <TraceGreen> adriyel, what do you mean ? i am not good at english.
[09:10] <robotgeek> thisplayer: http://pastebin.com/507880 in your .bash_profile
[09:10] <crimsun> adriyel: I can't locate the data sheet for 10de:0059, but on some chipsets the line-in and mic elements can be unmuted to toggle LFE and Center channels
[09:11] <sethk> thisplayer, the basic idea is sound; there are things that you want to do at least once, that are somewhat inefficient to do each time you start a child shell
[09:11] <sethk> thisplayer, also it insulates child shells from certain things (such as the DISPLAY variable, which can be inherited, and thus only has to be set correctly in one place).
[09:11] <Locke> what does the command line on the task bar do?
[09:11] <sethk> thisplayer, the treatment of DISPLAY when using ssh -X is a good example
[09:12] <Locke> nevermind
[09:12] <robotgeek> Locke: :)
[09:12] <Locke> robotgeek: i've tired like 10 commands and nothing happened and then i typed in a program, lol
[09:12] <thisplayer> robotgeek: that worked
[09:12] <adriyel> crimsun, which means I should do what to get my surround working?
[09:12] <robotgeek> thisplayer: i copied it from ubuntu's .bash_profile , lol
[09:13] <crimsun> adriyel: try unmuting 'Line' and 'Mic'
[09:13] <thisplayer> robotgeek: didnt think to use that..i was wierded out by how i couldnt find it...
[09:13] <thisplayer> sethk: ended up creating a .bash_profile, that seemed to do the trick. thanks for your help
[09:13] <thisplayer> robotgeek: thanks for you help
[09:13] <sethk> thisplayer, the paths can be confusing.  the shell looks for certain files in the home directory, then in /etc if they aren't there in /home
[09:14] <sethk> thisplayer, good, glad you were able to fix it.
[09:14] <robotgeek> thisplayer: sure, anytime
[09:14] <crimsun> adriyel: because there's no public documentation (nor do I have the data sheets for your device), I can only suggest what might work. Not having pin-outs can be a pain.
[09:14] <gerald-volt> what's that voice chat program called
[09:14] <gerald-volt> something like synapticis or something
[09:14] <adriyel> crimsun, I am not getting any audio playback
[09:14] <adriyel> wt.f
[09:14] <Toma-> gerald-volt: skype ?
[09:14] <sethk> gerald-volt, that sounds like a disease
[09:14] <gerald-volt> that's it
[09:14] <crimsun> adriyel: ok, that helps. Mute those both again.
[09:14] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell gerald-volt about skype
[09:14] <adriyel> crimsun, no no
[09:14] <adriyel> aplay doesn't work
[09:15] <adriyel> ignore that tho
[09:15] <adriyel> totem did work
[09:15] <adriyel> but its still stereo
[09:15] <gerald-volt> thankyouk, you guys are so kind
[09:15] <adriyel> what do you think?
[09:15] <adriyel> aplay works now
[09:15] <adriyel> still stereo
[09:15] <SperMite> how you install cedega ./configure?
[09:15] <adriyel> remute the line in and mic then?
[09:15] <crimsun> adriyel: ok, good. Yes, go ahead and mute them both.
[09:15] <robotgeek> crimsun: how about a quick troubleshooting guide for folks like us? to help ppl when you are not around?
[09:15] <adriyel> crimsun, done
[09:16] <gerald-volt> adriyel, the cvs version?
[09:16] <crimsun> robotgeek: blissex has a good one at http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html
[09:16] <adriyel> muted
[09:16] <crimsun> adriyel: ok, now you will need to construct a custom pcm definition using ~/.asoundrc to define the proper routing of the 2-channels to 4
[09:16] <gerald-volt> SperMite, the cvs cresion?
[09:16] <Toma-> SperMite: what version? should just read the documentation they give you
[09:17] <crimsun> adriyel: basically this is what some cards do with a 'duplicate front' toggle
[09:17] <SperMite> dpkg -i =)
[09:17] <crimsun> adriyel: unfortunately yours doesn't appear to toggle the correct register (ugh)
[09:17] <crimsun> adriyel: so...
[09:17] <gerald-volt> anyone know why I don't get any sound in gaim/
[09:17] <crimsun> adriyel: browse over to http://www.sabi.co.uk/Cfg/ALSA/asound.conf
[09:17] <robotgeek> crimsun: good, thanks. i guess it will be good to debug
[09:18] <adriyel> ok
[09:18] <crimsun> adriyel: about 3/5ths down the page, there's a section for "STEREO to 4 or 5.1"
[09:18] <adriyel> done
[09:18] <vladuz976> what's the executable to start gnome
[09:18] <adriyel> done
[09:18] <mjr> vladuz976, gnome-session
[09:18] <bharath> perl module install problem: cpan> install Net::Packet gives the following error "*** Cannot find pcap-int.h . Get it from your installed libpcap source distribution and copy it to: [/usr/include]  (near pcap.h)"
[09:18] <Toma-> bloody meta packages :/
[09:18] <adriyel> should I just check duplicate front in volume control?
[09:18] <vladuz976> mjr: thanks
[09:18] <adriyel> will this give me the same effect?
[09:18] <adriyel> or will this give me real surround?
[09:18] <crimsun> adriyel: you want to lift the pcm.stereo0-51 {} and ctl.stereo0-51 {} definitions and drop them into your ~/.asoundrc
[09:19] <kestasworkacc> are you guys still trying to get 5.1 working? :o
[09:19] <adriyel> just append them to the bottom of the rc?
[09:19] <crimsun> adriyel: it will be a simulation identical to what the original 'duplicate front' would have done
[09:19] <adriyel> kestasworkacc, yes
[09:19] <kestasworkacc> damn
[09:19] <crimsun> adriyel: yes, that's fine
[09:19] <adriyel> crimsun, duplicate front does that... :|
[09:19] <adriyel> it turns on rear sound
[09:20] <mcdenyer> is there a linux version of itunes
[09:20] <robotgeek> mcdenyer: why do you need itunes? to buy music?
[09:20] <adriyel> done
[09:20] <adriyel> I think
[09:20] <adriyel> asoundrc was empty though
[09:20] <crimsun> adriyel: uh...I thought you said having it unmuted /doesn't/ give you sound in the rear speakers
[09:20] <mcdenyer> robotgeek no to manage my ipod
[09:21] <robotgeek> mcdenyer: i think gtk-pod does that
[09:21] <adriyel> crimsun, I get audio in rear speakers with duplicate front, without I don't
[09:21] <adriyel> no sound in center no matter what
[09:21] <adriyel> duplicate front != surround
[09:21] <mcdenyer> robotgeek is it very hard to install?
[09:21] <robotgeek> mcdenyer: and use pymusique to buy music
[09:21] <adriyel> its stereo copied across multiple speakers
[09:21] <crimsun> adriyel: argh, I thought you meant you /never/ got sound in the rear
[09:21] <robotgeek> mcdenyer: no, install it from synpatic.
[09:21] <crimsun> adriyel: next time please specify that, thanks
[09:22] <crimsun> adriyel: ok, now to debug your Center and LFE issue
[09:22] <cafuego> crud
[09:22] <adriyel> crimsun, um, totem doesn't startup now that I've edited the asoundrc
[09:22] <adriyel> please continue with the center channel issue tho
[09:22] <cafuego> Does anyone here have a copy of the linux-headers-2.6.15-9 pqackage laying about?
[09:23] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about repos
[09:23] <robotgeek> mcdenyer: you will need to enable universe, and then install "gtkpod"
[09:23] <mcdenyer> robotgeek i searched for it in gtk-pod and couldnt find it
[09:23] <crimsun> adriyel: that's correct.
[09:23] <thisplayer> !repos
[09:23] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:23] <mcdenyer> robotgeek ive already enabled that
[09:24] <robotgeek> mcdenyer: the program's name is gtkpod, not gtk-pod. sorry
[09:24] <crimsun> adriyel: what you need to do is replace slave.pcm "dmix0-51" in the pcm.stereo0-51 {} definition with: slave.pcm "hw:0"
[09:24] <mcdenyer> robotgeekoh ok
[09:26] <mcdenyer> robotgeek cool installed it thanks alot
[09:26] <adriyel> crimsun, totem still doesn't start up
[09:26] <adriyel> screw it man, thanks for your help, but its 3:30 in the morning, and this isn't worth it to me
[09:26] <mcdenyer> robotgeek now i just need to get my music files from my ntfs partition
[09:26] <robotgeek> mcdenyer: cool, i don't own an ipod, so i dunno what to do next :)
[09:26] <crimsun> adriyel: that's fine for now, you need to test pcm.stereo0-51 {} in aplay
[09:26] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about ntfs
[09:27] <crimsun> adriyel: aplay -Dplug:stereo0-51 /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[09:27] <robotgeek> mcdenyer: read the link which ubotu pmed you
[09:27] <adriyel> its giving me crap about the formatting in the asoundrc crimsun
[09:27] <crimsun> adriyel: yeah, I realise that, too. It's 3:30 AM; I've driven on the interstate all day, and I have a meeting in 7.5 hours.
[09:27] <adriyel> thanks for your help man, but I am giving up
[09:28] <crimsun> adriyel: ok, ping me later this evening.
[09:28] <Abecedarian> mcdenyer: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[09:28] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about ntfs
[09:28] <robotgeek> !ubuntuguide
[09:28] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[09:28] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Abecedarian about ntfs
[09:28] <Abecedarian> mcdenyer:  My first time using Ubuntu I had EXACTLY the same question.
[09:29] <johndarkhorse> Abecedarian: read what ubotu wrote please
[09:29] <adriyel> I'll just dupe front for now crimsun and sacrifice the center
[09:29] <Abecedarian> *lol*
[09:29] <mcdenyer> abecedarian this is my first day\
[09:29] <mcdenyer> i read the tut but i cant follow it cuase im newb lol
[09:29] <Abecedarian> johndarkhorse:  Okay, hadn't realized...  The Guide seemed official enough.
[09:30] <robotgeek> mcdenyer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:30] <robotgeek> mcdenyer: use the script to do the job for you :)
[09:31] <Abecedarian> mcdenyer:  I wasn't saying "read the guide".  I was giving you a link to the exact spot where it talks about it...  It is a big piece of work, and I haven't read it yet either.
[09:31] <jrattner1> Has anyone expierence problems with the new amarok install?
[09:31] <Abecedarian> mcdenyer:  Besides, my second question ever after using Ubuntu was "how do I mount FAT32" which is relatively close by.  :)
[09:31] <robotgeek> jrattner1: i think they were having some issues with the lyrics display
[09:32] <mcdenyer> i did it :)
[09:32] <mcdenyer> nowthat ive mounted it what do i do?
[09:32] <johndarkhorse> Abecedarian: the script that ubotu mentions or that robotgeek sent has a script to mount all those things
[09:32] <jrattner1> notsteve, i mean when i start amarok i get an error
[09:33] <adriyel> alright everybody, I am gonna hit the sack
[09:33] <adriyel> I needs my sleep
[09:33] <sethk> mcdenyer, you don't know why you wanted to mount it?
[09:34] <Abecedarian> johndarkhorse:  Okay, was just trying to help.  I'm very new to this as well, and figured that the least I could do was point out to others paths that have worked for me in the past.  I probably should figure out the full list of ubotu commands first though, I guess.
[09:34] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Abecedarian about yourself
[09:34] <robotgeek> johndarkhorse: beat me to it :)
[09:35] <mcdenyer> sethk yeah i do i was asking how i acess it now that ive mounted it
[09:35] <Abecedarian> Okay, now how does that little bugger know about my crack and ritalin addictions?
[09:35] <mcdenyer> sethk but i figured it out nad am notw on my way
[09:35] <sethk> mcdenyer, ok
[09:36] <mcdenyer> people i am so confused about how the folder system works on ubutuntu does anyone know of like a tree diagram i could look at?
[09:36] <Adross> is there a screensaver installed that acts as a newsreader for an rss or atom newsfeed?
[09:37] <mcdenyer> i need a app that reads itunes format music
[09:38] <Adross> mcdenyer: search the wiki for aac
[09:38] <mcdenyer> a app that read m4a
[09:38] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about restrictedformats
[09:38] <ReverendNathan> Doesn't xine and xmms read m4a?
[09:38] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: you need to install gstreamer0.8-faac and -faad
[09:38] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: then any music player 'should' play them
[09:38] <Abecedarian> ubotu listvals server
[09:38] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'server' by value (15 shown; 19 total): server ;; esd ;; register ;; vesa ;; udev ;; apache ;; webmin ;; ftp ;; lamp ;; portforward ;; xcfg ;; openssh ;; ltsp ;; neomagic ;; nfs.
[09:39] <robotgeek> !msgthebot
[09:39] <ReverendNathan> So, I was wondering if there was a reason to veer away from amaroK. I really like it, but it does crash. Is beep or any other player recomended over it?
[09:40] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse woops i did -maf
[09:40] <robotgeek> ReverendNathan: other than the crashing part, it's perfect
[09:40] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse i mean -mad instaed of faac
[09:40] <ReverendNathan> Werd
[09:41] <Adross> ubotu women
[09:41] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, women is Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ to learn how to act, mister!
[09:41] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: -mad allows you to play mp3
[09:41] <ReverendNathan> I just think a lot of the KDE stuff is too overdone; too much focus on the graphics than the core. Everything has a K and is ugly. But amaroK does good.
[09:41] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse ok ill do faac now
[09:41] <robotgeek> ReverendNathan: no flame war please :)
[09:42] <ReverendNathan> Oh my bad
[09:42] <ReverendNathan> I forgot there is a Kubuntu
[09:42] <ReverendNathan> :-o
[09:43] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse ok now how do i open gstreamer
[09:44] <gerald-volt> how do I start my hp printer
[09:45] <mcdenyer> what do u guys sugest for playing music/
[09:45] <mcdenyer> ?
[09:45] <mcdenyer> whats the best player?
[09:45] <anderson> hello,anyone using D4X
[09:45] <ReverendNathan> As I just said, amaroL
[09:45] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: there are dozens, the one that is best is the one you like
[09:45] <ReverendNathan> Beep is alot like Winmamp
[09:46] <anderson> I want to re-set another font of D4X,how can I do it
[09:46] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse well whats one that alot of people use
[09:46] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse i dont know of any
[09:46] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: rhythmbox is default
[09:47] <ReverendNathan> mcdenyer: if you want a lot of features, use amaroK. If you want something small, use rythtmbox or beep
[09:47] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about multimedia
[09:47] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: more info from the bot, read and enjoy
[09:47] <gerald-volt> how do I start my hp printer?
[09:47] <mcdenyer> any good media players that can also manage ipod
[09:48] <ReverendNathan> mcdenyer: I know amaroK does it pretty simply
[09:48] <prada> mcdenyer: banshee looks good , still unstable though
[09:49] <mcdenyer> when i search for amarkok in synaptic there are tons of different ones i can use
[09:49] <mcdenyer> which one should i geT?
[09:49] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: read the wiki page ubotu sent you the link for
[09:50] <anderson> How can I re-configure the font setting of a X app lick D4X
[09:50] <ReverendNathan> mcdenyer: I installed it from 'add applications' because you need more than one of those files. It will just make it easier.
[09:50] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse ok
[09:50] <anderson> D4X has no setting window to set font
[09:50] <GeorgeAScott> btw.. thanks to whoever it was earlier who sent me this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:51] <GeorgeAScott> even though you were yelling at me cause my speakers were muted and i didn't know you sent it to me
[09:51] <ejofee> is akregator the best newsreader? if not, please tell me which one's best
[09:51] <robotgeek> ejofee: akregator is very nice, though i use liferea on gnome
[09:52] <gerald-volt> how do I start my printer?
[09:52] <ejofee> robotgeek: do you think liferea is better?
[09:53] <robotgeek> ejofee: not really, it goes nicer with konqueror, makes no difference with firefox. though, akregator has slightly more features. regarding archiving
[09:54] <ejofee> robotgeek: i see. thanks.
[09:55] <hawking> does anyone know some torrent apps with proxy support?
[09:55] <ardchoille> anyone know how to take a screenshot of tty1?
[09:55] <mcdenyer> amarok seems pretty cool'
[09:57] <gerald-volt> what's that gnome-printer setting command ?
[09:57] <gerald-volt> for setting up the printer
[09:57] <siimo> hi is there a seperate channel for 64bit
[09:57] <mjr> siimo, no
[09:58] <siimo> ok i was just wondering if i have to manually set up a 32bit system to run openoffice etc if i install breezy 64bit or will it already do it for me
[09:58] <siimo> or does it not include openoffice
[09:58] <robotgeek> siimo: ubuntu 64 bit version already has all those apps
[09:59] <siimo> oh ok
[10:00] <mjr> the 64-bit version has some limited 32-bit support spesifically for openoffice and such
[10:00] <siimo> sounds nice
[10:01] <saintiss> hi
[10:01] <DeFaNe> hello
[10:01] <GNU32> hi
[10:01] <saintiss> I'm trying to bring an ubuntu client online via masquerading (iptables) on a debian server. However, I can't get it to...
[10:01] <saintiss> the rules should be ok, since I've used them before
[10:02] <saintiss> the client is <IP_ADDRESS>
[10:02] <saintiss> the server 0.1
[10:02] <saintiss> the server is set as gateway on the client
[10:02] <saintiss> however, when I do "route" on the client, it takes about 10 seconds for it to display the line with 0.1 as gateway
[10:02] <saintiss> what could cause this delay?
[10:02] <saintiss> I figure it could lead me to the source of the problem
[10:02] <dooglus> saintiss: you might want to ask in #iptables
[10:03] <SillyZ> morning, quick question... on shutdown of ubuntu its resetting the time to UTC not localtime... where to change this?
[10:03] <saintiss> dooglus, ok, so you are saying nothing can be wrong except the rules?
[10:04] <cyphase> is the Totem plugin going to Just Work in Dapper?
[10:04] <dooglus> saintiss: no, I'm saying you'll probably get more help there.
[10:04] <dooglus> saintiss: we mostly help people get their video players working here :)
[10:04] <liable> saintiss: its not unusual for route to take a while to bring up the table
[10:04] <saintiss> dooglus, ic :)
[10:05] <saintiss> liable, is it? I never really experienced that before...
[10:05] <dooglus> I've seen the 'route' command be very slow when something was wrong with the setup
[10:05] <saintiss> exactly
[10:05] <liable> saintiss: well, i have, and there isnt anything wrong with my network.
[10:05] <SillyZ> where can I change when the system shutsdown that it sets the time to localtime not gmt / utc ?
[10:06] <dooglus> liable: other than the route command taking too long.
[10:06] <liable> yes
[10:06] <dooglus> SillyZ: /etc/default/rcS
[10:07] <SillyZ> thanks dooglus
[10:07] <saintiss> liable, ok, so maybe route is not the problem, still the point is the masquerading doesn't seem to do its job
[10:07] <SillyZ> just set utc=no and that should do it ?
[10:08] <dooglus> SillyZ: case matters, but other than that, yes
[10:09] <SillyZ> all the answers appeared in lowercase so I stuck with lowercase
[10:09] <SillyZ> UTC=no  was the complete line
[10:09] <vega-> anyone managed to install plugins in eclipse?
[10:10] <vega-> i think there's a fundamental problem in the eclipse installation of ubuntu, it's not possible to install plugins because only root has write access to the eclipse directory
[10:10] <liable> saintiss: dunno, i never used iptables directly, when i did it i used shorewall. i am an iptables tard (too lazy to bother with all the individual rules)
[10:10] <theconartist> how do i get ubuntu to detect when i am using headphones?
[10:10] <theconartist> the option that is normal in volume control to detect it is not there
[10:11] <SillyZ> thanks again dooglus
[10:11] <dooglus> np
[10:12] <theconartist> does nobody know?
[10:12] <saintiss> liable, heh, the first time I did it, I never heard of shorewall, so since then I just stuck with iptables
[10:12] <GNU32> yay, I have a teamspeak server up! I'm connected to it now :)
[10:12] <stevr1it> hi, need help for skype. I have installed it, and chat works perfectly but the sound starts ok and after a wile begin a awful noise. what can i do to improve it?
[10:14] <Steil> This isn't really ubuntu specific, but is there a way to find out if theres a diskspace quota imposed on your account?
[10:16] <joachim-n> anyone know anything about setting up jhbuild?
[10:17] <GNU32> stevrlit: I hear a voice that is totally different to my own when I speak into mics. Perhaps you have a similar problem?
[10:17] <GNU32> whoa! poor ubotu
[10:17] <tsw> Steil: quota without parameters tells quota for the user you are logged in
[10:19] <tsw> GNU32: thats normal human physiology, when you say something out loud you hear the same voice through your bones, but when you hear your recorded voice it sounds different to you
[10:20] <theconartist> somebody please?!
[10:20] <tsw> theconartist: no idea? maybe your soundcard doesnt support it?
[10:22] <theconartist> has to
[10:22] <Steil> tsw, -bash: quota: command not found
[10:22] <theconartist> i had it working in fbsd
[10:22] <bbbop> hello
[10:22] <tsw> Steil: then the box doesnt have quota or the command has been disabled by root
[10:22] <stevr1it> gnu 32
[10:22] <stevr1it> no i cannot hear anything
[10:23] <bbbop> how can i create a backup copy of a bootable windows cd? with cat or dd it only copies ~63 megabytes of it and then returns an i/o error
[10:23] <Steil> ahh okay
[10:23] <tsw> theconartist: which mixer are you using?
[10:23] <Steil> guess I should e-mail the admin and see what my webspace quota is
[10:23] <stevr1it> in my skype the voice is ust a brrrrrrrr noise
[10:23] <j2daosh> hey... question. if i setup a static route on my router to my linux box... does that mean all incoming traffic gets forwarded to my linux box... no other computer on the network will recieve data?
[10:23] <theconartist> tsw, alsamixer
[10:24] <stevr1it> any suggetsion?
[10:24] <tsw> Steil: its common to have different boxes to handle ssh logins and datastorage. the quota will then be on the datastorage box
[10:24] <theconartist> this is really painful :/
[10:24] <j2daosh> check ur sound by making a recording of it... if you can hear well its a setting in skype that is messed up
[10:25] <j2daosh> then go from there
[10:25] <theconartist> maybe i should just mutilate my speakers:/
[10:25] <stevr1it> i cannot my skype version seems an old one. how can i install a new one?
[10:25] <theconartist> poke paperclips through the holes
[10:25] <j2daosh> sudo apt-get update skype
[10:25] <j2daosh> ?
[10:25] <stevr1it> I try
[10:26] <j2daosh> not sure if the update will work... if it dont just do a sudo apt-get install skype
[10:26] <robotgeek> stevr1it: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/
[10:26] <j2daosh> it should find a newwer one if available
[10:26] <Steil> tsw, yeah the storage is on a network drive
[10:26] <Steil> Thanks though :)
[10:27] <stevr1it> it says error code 1
[10:27] <tsw> theconartist: hmm what soundcard?
[10:27] <stevr1it> to me?
[10:27] <stevr1it> update does not work
[10:28] <stevr1it> my soud card is internal alsa
[10:29] <j2daosh> stevr1it, yeah i just looked the ap-tget wont work... u will have to dl skype from the website
[10:29] <j2daosh> www.skype.com
[10:29] <tsw> stevr1it: have you tried recording your voice with other software? does it work?
[10:29] <stevr1it> ok bye
[10:29] <stevr1it> yes
[10:29] <j2daosh> dl the package... before you set the new one up remove the old one
[10:29] <stevr1it> iwth other software it works
[10:30] <j2daosh> sudo apt-get remove skype
[10:30] <theconartist> tsw, lemme look
[10:31] <theconartist> tsw, alsamixer says Intel 82801CA-ICH3
[10:34] <AndrewLee> I just upgraded to dapper kernel(2.6.15-12-powerpc), I have problem on using bcm43xx module on ibook.
[10:34] <tsw> theconartist: sorry, no idea :/
[10:34] <AndrewLee> Seems it can't load the firmware correctly..
[10:35] <AndrewLee> I did fwcutter and put *.fw files into /lib/firmware
[10:35] <oldie> but a newbie.  Need help determining what version of breezy to install.  amd 64,  i386 ????
[10:35] <AndrewLee> but after ifconfig eth1 up, the dmesg told me: bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available to load failed.
[10:35] <robotgeek> AndrewLee: did you extract them correctly? the forums page on that has pretty detailed explanation
[10:36] <AndrewLee> robotgeek: I think I did, I got an old version of ap driver from osx 10.3
[10:37] <AndrewLee> robotgeek: I got no error with fwcutter.
[10:37] <robotgeek> AndrewLee: i got the firmware from someguy who linked to it, but it worked the first time for me
[10:37] <oldie> anyone know what I should download. I have Celeron  and not sure which breezy to download.  amd64, i386, etc
[10:38] <robotgeek> oldie: i386
[10:38] <AndrewLee> robotgeek: Only the first time?
[10:38] <oldie> Thanks Robotgeek
[10:38] <oldie> I though so.  wasn't sure
[10:38] <oldie> you the best.
[10:38] <robotgeek> AndrewLee: i mean right on the first attempt
[10:39] <pesco> Hi everyone, I'm looking for a program to browse a large set of photos (in fullscreen), somewhat like acdsee I guess; any quick suggestions before I start trying every image viewer there is?
[10:39] <AndrewLee> robotgeek: Maybe I should try the linked firmware too, where is the link?
[10:39] <thisplayer> pesco: f-spot
[10:40] <skulltula> Anyone bored enough to help a n00b beautify his desktop?
[10:40] <thisplayer> pesco: thats more like a photo album....eye of gnome should be just, but if u need more...then get f-spot
[10:40] <robotgeek> AndrewLee: it's somewhere on the thread, just search that thread for link
[10:40] <elven_knight> hello, have you guy stumble upon sumthing like let say i want to get to irc.freenode.net. I typed /server irc.freenode.net. It said sumthing  like connecting to irc.freenode.net(<IP_ADDRESS>) <-- It can't resolve the ip, but if i ping the ip adress in the terminal it can connect. help pls.
[10:41] <thisplayer> skulltula: what are you thinking about doing?
[10:41] <pesco> thisplayer: With eog, I just couldn't figure out how to switch photos in slideshow mode and then it crashed on me...
[10:42] <skulltula> thisplayer: i wanna add a wallpaper, maybe make the themes cooler looking.
[10:42] <thisplayer> pesco: which ubuntu are you running?
[10:42] <pesco> thisplayer: breezy
[10:42] <AndrewLee> robotgeek: BTW, didn't you get error when using fwcutter with the linked driver?
[10:42] <thisplayer> skulltula: have u looked at gnome-look.org ..?
[10:42] <skulltula> i made the panels nice and small already... nah, i haven't.!
[10:43] <Irvine> how to share printer with windows?
[10:43] <thisplayer> pesco: eog sumtimes acts up...try reinstalling it through synaptic...
[10:43] <skulltula> haha, thanks thisplayer :]
[10:43] <robotgeek> AndrewLee: i think that's the firmware itself
[10:43] <GeorgeAScott> er.... how do i get the back/forward buttons on my mouse to work
[10:43] <pesco> thisplayer: Hrm, dunno...
[10:44] <windowmaker> i got my friend to switch to ubuntu, but he dislikes gaim because it doesn't have "nudges" and "winks" and that other bloatful MSN junk, do any of you know how to get the official MSN messenger client working in wine with fast painting?
[10:44] <pesco> Hah! I'm trying _pornview_! A program of that name wins by default!
[10:44] <pesco> windowmaker: It doesn't have _what_?!
[10:44] <AndrewLee> robotgeek: Did you compile ieee80211softmac.ko yourself?
[10:45] <pesco> (sorry, I'm not being helpful, please just ignore me if looking for serious advice)
[10:45] <windowmaker> pesco: i know, i was confused too, i think these are some features that gaim doesn't have but msn do
[10:45] <windowmaker> msn messenger does***
[10:45] <Steil> windowmaker, you can suggest amsn, it has a similar look to the official client and it supports nudges. Winks would be pretty difficult to support on linux and msn doesn't play well with wine
[10:46] <Steil> amsn also supports webcams which gaim doesn't
[10:46] <robotgeek> AndrewLee: no, lemme pull up what i did
[10:46] <thisplayer> windowmaker: the newer versions of msn messenger and yahoo messenger use upto date windows binaries.....wine isnt that upto date...so these fancy features wont work...
[10:46] <GNU32> Steil: Gaim doesn't support webcams peiord.
[10:47] <windowmaker> Steil, i tried amsn, couldn't find nudges or anything close, i'll look again just in case
[10:47] <pesco> Does bitlbee support this stuff? *duck*
[10:47] <Steil> windowmaker, it's a plugin that should come by default. you just have to enable it
[10:47] <windowmaker> and amsn also tends to be a tad slow
[10:47] <windowmaker> okay
[10:47] <johndarkhorse> pesco: your humour only makes sense to those who know what bitlbee is, :0
[10:48] <Toma-> anyone installed a bios update before? ive got a .bin file... should i just dd it to a floppy disk?
[10:48] <Toma-> or, use wine to run the bios update utitlity...
[10:48] <johndarkhorse> Toma-: a bootable floppy, yes. grab an image from bootdisk.com
[10:48] <Toma-> ok thanx
[10:49] <GNU32> Toma-: I've seen a bios flasher around. You could boot into it and flash your bios file to the bios.
[10:49] <GeorgeAScott> i haven't figured out how to use wine yet...but a drink it pretty well
[10:49] <GeorgeAScott> and maybe that's why
[10:49] <GNU32> GeorgeAScott: It's not hard. Just wine windowsapp.exe
[10:50] <Toma-> aaaaaaaaah. i dont have a floppy drive. >.<
[10:50] <GNU32> Toma-: Whoops!
[10:50] <j2daosh> hey... got a quick favor to ask... can someone ssh to <IP_ADDRESS> and tell me if you get a prompt?
[10:50] <pesco> johndarkhorse: Right. But no joke is funny if you explain it...
[10:50] <windowmaker> okay, i will
[10:50] <GeorgeAScott> i don't even know if i installed the packages for it.... i think i started to, but i'm not sure if i finished it
[10:51] <windowmaker> j2daosh, it wants a password, so it's working
[10:51] <robotgeek> AndrewLee: PM
[10:51] <thisplayer> j2daosh: works
[10:51] <j2daosh> woot woot
[10:51] <j2daosh> maybe i will be able to get on from work again
[10:51] <AndrewLee> robotgeek: thanks
[10:51] <j2daosh> thanks for the help guys
[10:52] <robotgeek> AndrewLee: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=561220&postcount=37 ignore the softmac or whatever
[10:52] <Mady> I have a problem with automounting my usb-device; Ubuntu trys to mount /dev/sda insead of /dev/sda1
[10:52] <Toma-> do you think if i mad a bootable cd, i could flash the bios?
[10:52] <Toma-> *made
[10:53] <windowmaker> Mady, edit your /etc/fstab
[10:53] <SillyZ> thanks again yall for all the help!     ubuntu rocks!
[10:53] <Mady> normaly I don't need an entry in the fstab
[10:54] <Mady> and there is no entry for /dev/sda nor /dev/sda1
[10:55] <km0ti0n> I am tryin gto install mono and mono develop but I can't find the package with apt-cache search
[10:55] <AndrewLee> robotgeek_zzz: Same error, I am thinking of the version of fwcutter I am using might be too old.
[10:55] <johndarkhorse> Toma-: it doesnt matter how you get there
[10:55] <km0ti0n> I have sortedf mono it's just the IDE I need
[10:55] <Toma-> hmm ok
[10:55] <Toma-> my sempron is running at 85oC :(
[10:55] <joachim-n> is it me or is the new bug tracker a bit useless?
[10:56] <Toma-> constantly locking up my system
[10:56] <Toma-> ive read it could be a bios problem
[10:56] <j2daosh> toma what is the issue?
[10:57] <bimberi> joachim-n: file a bug :P
[10:57] <Toma-> j2daosh: not much of an issue, just a cheap/terrible cpu. :( trying to figure out a way to get a bios update to happen without a floppy
[10:57] <joachim-n> I don't understand how to search bugs I have commented on or reported
[10:58] <j2daosh> u have a windows partition on that box?
[10:58] <Toma-> j2daosh: god no :)
[10:58] <j2daosh> lol
[10:58] <j2daosh> an sda?
[10:58] <Toma-> only usb
[10:59] <j2daosh> and i assume since you have an old bios it dont recognize a usb jump drive eh?
[10:59] <GeorgeAScott> mouse support help... please.... i'm to used to my forward and back buttons....
[10:59] <Toma-> j2daosh: doubt it
[10:59] <Toma-> ahhh ill tweak around for a while and see if i can get 20oc down
[10:59] <Toma-> thx, cyas
[11:00] <j2daosh> 20c? lol if he manages that ill be fairly impressed
[11:00] <j2daosh> and he will have to tell me his trick lol
[11:01] <j2daosh> hey PuMpErNiCkLe u from minnesota?
[11:01] <AndrewLee> robotgeek_zzz: My guess is correct, my AE works with the svn version of fwcutter, cool.
[11:01] <AndrewLee> robotgeek_zzz: Thank you very much. :)
[11:02] <skulltula> So now GNOME is prettier than XP :]
[11:03] <jdkycdoc> hi everyone, since i installed the latest nvidia driver some days ago I have the problem that I can't see anything outside X, I mean that if I try ctrl+alt+f1 the screen goes blank, the same happens when turning off the computer, any help with this?
[11:03] <j2daosh> be back in a littl while.. need coffee and have to take a shower for work and all that god stuff
[11:04] <bimberi> joachim-n: yep, i can't see a way to do that either - and agree that it should
[11:04] <jahshu> hey all any idea why alt codes don't work for text in breezy?
[11:04] <joachim-n> I'll file a bug......
[11:05] <bimberi> joachim-n: against launchpad itself i guess :)
[11:06] <Toma-> what speed should a cpu fan be going at...
[11:06] <milestone> hi all
[11:07] <jdkycdoc> the same happens when turning off the computer... this is not a joke... i mean after stopping X and strictly before the power goes off.. hehe
[11:07] <milestone> is it possible to tell scp not to follow symlinks, but copy them as si
[11:07] <milestone> is
[11:07] <joachim-n> hmm launchpad isn't a listed component
[11:08] <bimberi> joachim-n: https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bugs
[11:08] <GeorgeAScott> nyea... the wine command is not found... must not have finished installing those packages eh
[11:08] <jahshu> hey all any idea why alt codes don't work for text in breezy?
[11:08] <GeorgeAScott> that and my stupidity combined... yay!
[11:09] <joachim-n> 'launchpad' isn't valid
[11:09] <allison_1984> can someone help me, I cannot read my flash drive ?
[11:09] <GeorgeAScott> don't hate me because i'm drinking burgandy and can't get wine to work..
[11:10] <joachim-n> gah
[11:11] <joachim-n> who on earth thought this crud was ready to take over from bugzilla?????
[11:11] <johndarkhorse> 411am
[11:13] <bimberi> joachim-n: "Report a bug" link on the right hand side of that page (my url above)?
[11:16] <Xnos> hi
[11:17] <Xnos> someone use giFT
[11:17] <Xnos> ??
[11:18] <corptix> hi when i boot on ubuntu it loads everything and then turns into a shell why?
[11:18] <xiaogil> Since I have used the command e2fsck to repare my hardrive, the partition /dev/hda5 is not mounted automatically, despite of the line "/dev/hda5 /media/hda5 ext3 defaults 0 2" in /etc/fstab. Also, it can be mounted manually without any problem. How to have it mounted automatically ?
[11:18] <corptix> sorry?
[11:19] <flogiston> hi
[11:19] <thisplayer> corptix: when u type ur username and password, click sessions and make sure you select gnome or kde...
[11:19] <flogiston> any java programmer in here?
[11:19] <corptix> no no
[11:19] <Mady> my usb-drive don't get mountet automaticaly because ubuntu trys to mount /dev/sda insead of /dev/sda1
[11:19] <corptix> it asked for username password
[11:19] <corptix> then there isno sessions
[11:20] <corptix> just like a shell
[11:20] <thisplayer> so no X...just black and white..?
[11:20] <corptix> yes
[11:20] <thisplayer> your X may be misconfigured..
[11:21] <corptix> dude like i been using it for 2 weeks
[11:21] <corptix> and it was bootin fine until now
[11:21] <thisplayer> did u install or update recently..?
[11:21] <corptix> yeh sudo apt-get update
[11:23] <thisplayer> !dpkg-reconfigure
[11:23] <ubotu> No idea, thisplayer
[11:23] <corptix> =[
[11:24] <bimberi> !xorg
[11:24] <ubotu> it has been said that xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:24] <corptix> thisplayer ?
[11:24] <twilight> corptix, read /var/log/Xorg.0.log and/or ~/.xsession-errors, probably you will find the error(s)
[11:24] <corptix> also when i type startx it sayz connection refused.
[11:25] <corptix> how am i gonna read it ?
[11:25] <Mady> my usb-drive don't get mountet automaticaly because ubuntu trys to mount /dev/sda insead of /dev/sda1, Anybody an idea?
[11:25] <thisplayer> corptix: there you go...wut ubotu mentioned..
[11:25] <twilight> corptix, is there a shell, right?use less (less /var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[11:25] <corptix> im new to linux
[11:25] <corptix> so its hard for to to understand
[11:25] <corptix> so what do u want me to do step bu step ?
[11:26] <corptix> *by
[11:26] <twilight> type that command in the same place where you type startx
[11:26] <corptix> this one "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:27] <thisplayer> corptix: type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:27] <DoctorRob21> hi, i am trying to get ubuntu to play wmvs, I can't figure out how to add the decoder
[11:27] <twilight> corptix, yes. but with "less <above files>" you will find the errors
[11:27] <ompaul> !tell DoctorRob21 about restricted
[11:27] <corptix> and how do i fix it ?
[11:28] <ompaul> DoctorRob21, have a look at that message from the bot it should help
[11:29] <twilight> corptix, read the files tells you the errors, you can fix errors with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:30] <DoctorRob21> oops sorry i missed that
[11:31] <corptix> man how am i gonna fix it if i dont know anything about it ?
[11:31] <Toma-> corptix: what needs fixing?
 this one "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:32] <kao> and what do you want to fix
[11:33] <corptix> ahh fuck it
[11:33] <ompaul> corptix, have you run that >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << command
[11:33] <corptix> yes i know
[11:33] <corptix> and how am i suppose to know the error
[11:33] <corptix> and how to fix it or save the edited file
[11:34] <ompaul> corptix, have you run the command, yes or no?
[11:34] <thisplayer> no....the reconfigure command runs a setup for your display..
[11:34] <corptix> why dont u say dat
[11:34] <thisplayer> think of it like a setup utility for windows...it installs the driver for you...it doesnt tell u whats wrong..
[11:34] <corptix> lol thanx
[11:34] <corptix> bbs
[11:34] <corptix> yeh yeh
[11:34] <corptix> thanx
[11:34] <thisplayer> impatient...
[11:34] <ompaul> corptix, also please leave the language out of it, and don't hit enter for punctuation
[11:35] <ompaul> ahh
[11:35] <ompaul> thisplayer, and back in with My Sound blahhh and network etc
[11:35] <Xnos> someone has troubles sharing folders on giFT-toxic... i have a big folder... but giFt doesnt share... any suggestions.....
[11:36] <thisplayer> ompaul: wuts wrong..?
[11:37] <ompaul> thisplayer, nothing here I was replying to your impatient... and suggesting what happens next
[11:38] <thisplayer> ha..true.
[11:38] <thisplayer> i'm sure we've all been there at one point or another
[11:40] <Drac[Server] > Hi. I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop. I can't seem to get an external mouse working. Keyboards work fine in the PS/2 port, but a mouse won't. I tried adding a "mouse1" to xorg.conf, but I used the usual parameters. Is there something special that I need to configure? Currently, when I plug in the mouse, neither the mouse nor the touch pad function. Touch pad functionality is regained when the mouse is removed.
[11:41] <Drac[Server] > Wait a second... I put vidalinux gentoo on there, not Ubuntu... Err... whoops. Sorry. I'll ask the proper channel.
[11:42] <jahshu> i wish i could make a wap with one wireless card and one cat5 connected to net
[11:42] <johndarkhorse> jahshu: firestarter doesnt offer you that choice?
[11:43] <thisplayer> jahshu: i've read its possible...dont know how
[11:43] <jahshu> i thought firestarter was just a firewall
[11:43] <thisplayer> firestarter maybe a good start..
[11:43] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell jahshu about firestarter
[11:43] <thisplayer> !firestarter
[11:43] <johndarkhorse> the bot is down.
[11:43] <jahshu> is it in the wiki?
[11:43] <Seveas> ubotu,
[11:43] <jahshu> i have firestarter
[11:43] <Seveas> ubotu, ping
[11:43] <johndarkhorse> firestarter is a frontend for all of iptables functions, jahshu
[11:44] <devwal> Anyone have a pokerstars account?
[11:44] <Seveas> johndarkhorse, ubotu seems lagging indeed
[11:44] <Seveas> cafuego, poke
[11:44] <jahshu> so theortically i can have a irect connection via cat5 to my isp than broadcast from anothe pci slot wireless card?
[11:45] <jahshu> that would be a powerful tool
[11:45] <Drac[Server] > Hmm... The Gentoo guys are being stubborn. Would anyone here be willing to give me help with xorg.conf, or is Ubuntu still using XFree86?
[11:46] <jahshu> we use xorg
[11:46] <jahshu> i had to rack my brain on xorg to get my display out of 640-480
[11:46] <johndarkhorse> Drac[Server] : ask your question
[11:47] <ccooke> Drac[Server] : I'm assuming you run gentoo, then?
[11:47] <xan> hey can anyone here tell me why Haxial's KXD server isn't running?
[11:47] <ccooke> Drac[Server] : which means the debian-style autoconfiguration is out, unfortunately
[11:47] <CuriousCat> would anyone know how to get sound working of xfce?
[11:49] <intelikey> is there a high-end graphics app for ubuntu ?      and what kind of ram are we talking about having to have ?
[11:50] <corptix> thisplayer : it didnt work
[11:50] <Drac[Server] > ccooke: Yeah, unfortunately I don't have the 'Debian style' config in all likelihood. It may very well be a lack of support in the kernel, this problem of mine. I can't get an external mouse to work with my laptop.
[11:50] <ompaul> CuriousCat, if you right click on the desktop there should be a "setup" menu item it fires up a window with lots of things you can configure
[11:51] <katie^> i need a new keyboard
[11:51] <allison_1984> hi guys, do I need to mount a FAT formatted flash drive to be able to view and copy the files onto my hard drive ?
[11:52] <ompaul> allison_1984, does it not mount automagically?
[11:52] <intelikey> ok let me ask this then, if i have 2g of ram  is there any app that might cause that to need swap space ?
[11:52] <johndarkhorse> intelikey: not really
[11:52] <Ng> intelikey: it's generally a good idea to always have swap space
[11:52] <allison_1984> ompaul: its funny it used to mount automatically, now it does not
[11:53] <Ng> intelikey: even if it's only, say, half a gig, it allows the kernel to page old things out to disk so it can use RAM for cache
[11:53] <intelikey> but is there anything that will demand that much ram ?
[11:53] <allison_1984> ompaul: its the first time it has not mounted
[11:53] <johndarkhorse> intelikey: the system expects to have some swap, even if it's not necessary
[11:53] <Ng> intelikey: if you run lots of things, sure, but like I said, it's worth having anyway
[11:53] <corptix> dude
[11:53] <corptix> it didnt fkn work
[11:53] <corptix> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-zorg
[11:54] <ompaul> allison_1984, okay just a sec
[11:54] <Drac[Server] > Does Ubuntu have good support for Laptop bits? I noticed the installer couldn't communicate with my PCMCIA ethernet card. I need USB support or something of that nature.
[11:54] <johndarkhorse> intelikey: i have a machine with 2.5gb ram and rarely if ever hit 1g used
[11:54] <allison_1984> ompaul: ok
[11:54] <corptix> i done that completed everything and it didnt boot again
[11:54] <Drac[Server] > USB mouse*
[11:54] <corptix> i get the black and white screen
[11:54] <intelikey> well the fact that i only have 64m ram and no swap probably isn't wise in your eyes.
[11:54] <CuriousCat> ompaul: hmm. can't seem to find it
[11:54] <intelikey> johndarkhorse thank you !
[11:55] <corptix> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-zorg
[11:55] <corptix> i done that completed everything and it didnt boot again
[11:55] <corptix> i get the black and white screen
[11:55] <ompaul> CuriousCat, have a look at xubuntu on the wiki there are pictures there of what you want to do
[11:55] <corptix> fuckin morons i swear
[11:56] <jahshu> corptix not very human of you
[11:56] <allison_1984> ompual: in fact I can see the drive in computer, when I try to open it it says; error given udi is not a mountable volume
[11:56] <Drac[Server] > No comments on USB mouse support in the initial build? :\
[11:56] <ompaul> allison_1984, mount /dev/sda1 /media/something
[11:57] <allison_1984> ompaul: does it has anything to do with the fact that its FAT
[11:57] <ompaul> allison_1984, let me rewrite the command
[11:58] <allison_1984> ompaul: ok
[11:58] <ilba7r> !e17
[11:59] <francesco_> ciao a tutti:)>
[11:59] <ompaul> allison_1984, >> sudo mkdir /media/akey ; sudo mount -t dos /dev/sda1 /media/akey <<
[11:59] <twilight> francesco_, il canale italiano e' #ubuntu-it, qui si parla in inglese
[11:59] <francesco_> :)>ok grazie!
[12:00] <ilba7r> ompal you should also look up pmount it will automate most of the mounting and you run it as user not superuser
[12:00] <francesco_> ciao
[12:00] <ilba7r> is ubotu down ?
[12:00] <bimberi> ilba7r: yep :/
[12:00] <ilba7r> thanx bimberi
[12:00] <ompaul> ilba7r, yes
[12:01] <ilba7r> thanx ompaul
[12:01] <ompaul> np
[12:01] <bimberi> ilba7r: np, you can browse the factoids at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:01] <tuskernini> hi there all, how do i burn a data dvd direct from a nfs drive? i tried with GnomeBaker... didnt want to work...
[12:01] <ilba7r> great link than again bimberi
[12:04] <shai__> how can I check the version of a package in apt?
[12:04] <Ng> apt-cache show packagename
[12:05] <xan> does anyone have experience with KDX on ubuntu
[12:05] <xan> ?
[12:05] <skwashd> hi all
[12:05] <skwashd> i have checked malone, and i have tried to reproduce this on other installs and i can't
[12:06] <Xnos> anyone using giFT?
[12:06] <skwashd> my problem is for 1 user that firefox on breezy refuses to use mozplugger or remember the settings for M$ Word .doc files
[12:07] <skwashd> no matter what i try ... each time i want to d/l a word .doc i have to enter the full path to oowriter2
[12:07] <skwashd> has anyone else struck this?
[12:07] <skwashd> i have also created a clean profile ... same issue
[12:07] <skwashd> i have reinstalled mozplugger ... same issue
[12:08] <jahshu> with four desktops does it mangae resources?
[12:09] <jahshu> im curious what it is actualy doing
[12:09] <skwashd> oh .. and google comes up with sfa for this too
[12:12] <irma> hi all
[12:14] <wb> I have a gksudo question, I have Kerberos working for user auth since two days, but now gksudo does not prompt for password if needed (process hangs). anybody knows something?
[12:15] <irma> i want to install mplayer..but if i want to install it (this progam is not curently installeble it shoot be installeble in the"multiverse" section of the repositories dialog in the settings menu to install it) what does that mean
[12:16] <liable> !repos
[12:16] <bimberi> !multiverse
[12:16] <bimberi> heh
[12:16] <liable> !hi
[12:16] <liable> its dead..
[12:16] <irma> hi bim
[12:16] <ompaul> bot is fone work a walk
[12:16] <ompaul> s/fone/gone
[12:17] <johndarkhorse> irma: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Repositories
[12:17] <irma> is someone here familiair with mplayer?
[12:17] <jahshu> serously folks any one have any info on x desktops/
[12:17] <irma> oh:)
[12:17] <jahshu> i can google it
[12:18] <bimberi> hi irma - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[12:18] <jahshu> is there a comprehensive l;ist of wireless cards that ubuntu or diswrapper will recognize
[12:18] <limguohong91> How can I setup a share folder with my window and ubuntu?
[12:18] <cyphase> Great joke - http://zacbowling.com/blog/2006/01/16/best-blond-joke-ever/
[12:18] <Talisker> !tell talisker about nvidia
[12:18] <cyphase> sorry to the blondes out there, nothing personal i think :)
[12:18] <Talisker> where's the bot? :(((
[12:19] <Determinist> yay, i've managed to make my linux machine communicate to my Pocket PC :D
[12:19] <redguy> !test
[12:19] <Ng> ubotu appears to be absent
[12:19] <bimberi> jahshu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[12:19] <jahshu> ty very much
[12:19] <irma> tx bim i try that
[12:19] <ompaul> BOT is off air atm why? who knows. how long? who knows.
[12:19] <ompaul> :)
[12:19] <johndarkhorse> irma: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[12:20] <liable> bots need time off too!
[12:20] <irma> what is that john?
[12:20] <Talisker> that sucks... I need the bullet list for installing nvidia drivers on my box
[12:20] <cafuego> whut?
[12:20] <liable> cafuego: your bots awol
[12:20] <p6> yeeeeeeeee
[12:21] <cafuego> !test
[12:21] <cafuego> eeeevil bot
[12:21] <cafuego> lemme see
[12:21] <johndarkhorse> irma: some wiki links that may enlighten you
[12:21] <ompaul>  cafuego he left 30 mins ago
[12:21] <Determinist> cool, i can now copy files from my pocket pc, this owns
[12:21] <Determinist> i now officially do not need windows XP or that stinking activesync anymore :D
[12:22] <jahshu> so you think if my d-link wl-20+ isnt listed in there its impossible
[12:23] <cafuego> Gimme a random wisconsin zipcode!
[12:23] <Determinist> now all i gotta do is wait for the familiar distro (pocket pc linux distro) to be ready for use on my pocket pc and voila, no more microsoft logo for me
[12:24] <irma> how do u stop apt-get program?
[12:24] <Seveas> cafuego, searching for H-bomb targets again?
[12:24] <Seveas> irma, <ctrl> C
[12:24] <irma> do i need to open my terminal?
[12:24] <Determinist> lars?
[12:24] <Seveas> larts even
[12:24] <Determinist> larts?
[12:24] <Determinist> !larts
[12:24] <ubotu> Determinist: Are you on ritalin?
[12:24] <Determinist> ubotu, no
[12:24] <ubotu> Ahh, too bad, I really thought so...
[12:24] <Seveas> !lart himself
[12:24] <ompaul> cafuego,  53701
[12:25] <ompaul> !53701
[12:25] <ubotu> ompaul: I haven't a clue
[12:25] <jahshu> ?I found drivers on d-links site but it has 5 different versions  ie a, b , c, d ,e of the dwl 520,
[12:26] <Determinist> once i'm done with some physics, am gonna write some zenity+bash thing to work with my ppc :D
[12:27] <Determinist> should i write some howto as to how i've managed to connect my pocket pc to breezy?
[12:27] <limguohong91> Do anyone know how to can link my Window and Ubuntu together in a share folder?
[12:27] <jouni__m> irma why you need to stop apt-get
[12:27] <liable> jahshu: theres an opensource driver too on sourceforge. (dunno about 520) but you might find the dlink ones dont work.
[12:27] <Seveas> Determinist, always useful :)
[12:27] <Determinist> Seveas, yeah :) but then... i'm too much of a noob :D
[12:27] <Determinist> Seveas, gonna do it tho , bwaha
[12:28] <jahshu> they have like 6 versions on there site
[12:28] <irma> if i open synaptic manager.. it cant open bc it says...a apt-get or aptitude is still runnuing
[12:28] <jahshu> my card has no identifiers
[12:28] <jahshu> neither does the box
[12:28] <jahshu> I wanna use it to make a wap for my laptop
[12:28] <cafuego> Seveas: I'm going to nuke belgium
[12:28] <limguohong91> Do anyone know how to can link my Window and Ubuntu together in a share folder?
[12:28] <Seveas> cafuego, aim carefully, it's a small country :)
[12:29] <TokenBad> ok lets try the question like this...I have some free space on my slave drive I want to convert from fat32 to linux format...how can I do that in ubuntu?
[12:29] <Determinist> Seveas, btw, does that initng thing work? the system does take it's sweet time loading every time
[12:29] <liable> jahshu: good luck, ndiswrapper is prolly your best bet, i dont think the dlink ones even support wpa
[12:29] <Seveas> Determinist, don't poke at it, keybuk is going to rewrite Ubuntus init for dapper+1
[12:29] <Seveas> to make it rock bananas
[12:29] <jahshu> it gets old having to diso my cat-5 cable everytime I go from laptop, to ubuntubox, to inmebox all day long
[12:29] <liable> man, dpkgs factoids have had a big clean up lately.. :(
[12:29] <liable> doh
[12:29] <Determinist> Seveas, so we should have an ubuntu that boots faster around 6.10?
[12:30] <jahshu> all my comps are dumpster scores and handmedowns along with most of my hardware
[12:30] <jahshu> hmmm
[12:30] <Seveas> Determinist, yes
[12:30] <imachine> hello.
[12:30] <imachine> what other includes are there in ubuntu linux?
[12:30] <imachine> i seem to be missing header files.
[12:30] <jahshu> anyone know much about alternate dns servers
[12:31] <jouni__m> irma do you have update manager etc. running?
[12:31] <Ng> Determinist: quit smoking and you'll have the cash in no time ;)
[12:31] <imachine> i installed linux-headers.
[12:31] <irma> i donno
[12:31] <jahshu> I would help chip in for a gnu isp
[12:31] <Determinist> Ng, yeah, i've been told that before :)
[12:31] <limguohong91> Do anyone know how to can link my Window and Ubuntu together in a share folder?
[12:31] <irma> i cant see what is running
[12:31] <cafuego> Seveas: Small town in Wisconsin, as it turns out. (postcode 53004)
[12:31] <imachine> limguohong91, use samba.
[12:32] <limguohong91> Thanks imachine but do I have to set it up at Window?
[12:32] <irma> i have update manager but cant open it
[12:32] <Determinist> limguohong91, same machine or different machines on same network?
[12:33] <limguohong91> Determinist , same machine
[12:33] <ubuntu> ok i really stuffed up this time this what happen my ubuntu didnt boot so i foramtted under xp just removed the file on the hhd now when i reboot i get an error from GURBU the dual boot thing
[12:33] <ubuntu> it wont boot my xp system
[12:33] <imachine> yeah, you need windows sharing afaik. i dont use m$ products much so its hard to help here ;)
[12:33] <ubuntu> im on liveCD right now ?
[12:33] <jouni__m> irma try in terminal sudo apt-get update.
[12:33] <Seveas> ubuntu, grab a windows cd/bootdisk and run fixmbr
[12:33] <irma> ok
[12:33] <Determinist> limguohong91, mount the windows partitions into /media/ , what FS are they? ntfs or fat32?
[12:33] <ubuntu> Seveas ere ?
[12:33] <imachine> come on now, is there a way to build my own stuff? or is it in the forums probably yeah
[12:34] <imachine> havent checked that yet
[12:34] <ubuntu> Seveas from where?
[12:34] <MrSunshine> seems atleast one person have same freezes as me in X
[12:34] <Seveas> ubuntu, windows cd or bootdisk
[12:34] <imachine> im new to ubuntu ;)
[12:34] <limguohong91> Determinist fat32, how can I mount it?
[12:34] <Seveas> !fat
[12:34] <ubotu> Seveas: I haven't a clue
[12:34] <Determinist> ubuntu, there's an option on the windows xp installation CD called recovery console, get there, type fixmbr
[12:34] <Seveas> !fat32
[12:34] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:34] <irma> acces denied jouni
[12:34] <Determinist> limguohong91, hmm, can you tell which /dev/hdXX are your windows partitions?
[12:34] <ubuntu> so i insert the cd and go to recoery mode and in cmd i type fixmbr ?
[12:35] <limguohong91> If I remember rightly it is 01
[12:35] <limguohong91> Determinist , hd01
[12:35] <Seveas> ubuntu, yes
[12:35] <ubuntu> ok
[12:35] <ubuntu> brb
[12:35] <Determinist> ubuntu, yeah, the recovery console is kinda like a command prompt, just type fixmbr and voila
[12:35] <iti3g> any iptables freaks? i want to enable internet (masquerading) for just 1 interface but i can't specify eth1 in the MASQ line (not allowed)...
[12:35] <irma> it sayd couldnt close list map or so
[12:35] <cafuego> !test
[12:35] <ubotu> Failed.
[12:35] <cafuego> Ok, so that at least worked.
[12:35] <Determinist> limguohong91, cant be... it should be /dev/hdaX hdbX etc
[12:35] <redguy_> yay!
[12:36] <limguohong91> Determinis Let me check my GParted
[12:36] <Determinist> limguohong91, k, you can also just ls /dev/ | grep hd
[12:36] <Determinist> the beauty of udev :)
[12:37] <limguohong91> Determinist , it is hda1 / fat32 flags = boot iba.
[12:37] <Determinist> limguohong91, cool, ok, create say... /media/winxp, then do mount /dev/hda1 /media/winxp
[12:38] <limguohong91> Determinist , thanks so your help so far, may I know how can I do it?
[12:38] <kcantin> hello all
[12:39] <Determinist> limguohong91, erm, the commands i've just given you should mount it once till you reboot, to have that happen each and every time you can use a script to put that in /etc/fstab
[12:39] <Determinist> !winmac
[12:39] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Determinist
[12:39] <Determinist> !fstab
[12:39] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[12:39] <kcantin> Can anyone give me info on installing talkd?
[12:39] <cafuego> sudo apt-get install talkd?
[12:39] <kcantin> Is that it??
[12:39] <limguohong91> Determinist , ok so is there anywhere where I can have that script?
[12:39] <cafuego> Seveas: When you going to do a glade frontend for diskmounter?
[12:40] <redguy_> kcantin: tried it?
[12:40] <Determinist> limguohong91, yeah... it's in the last link ubotu just posted... http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[12:40] <cafuego> kcantin: traditionally, yes. You may need to restart inetd afterwards.
[12:40] <jouni__m> irma are you only user of your computer
[12:40] <Determinist> cafuego, zenity should work better tho, no?
[12:40] <limguohong91> Thanks Determinist
[12:40] <Determinist> limguohong91, my pleasure mate :)
[12:40] <kcantin> ok, thanks a ton!!
[12:41] <limguohong91> :)
[12:41] <irma> jouni- it says couldnt get /var/lib/dpkg/lock ...sourse 11
[12:42] <irma> no i have 2 users
[12:42] <ejofee> is there any gnu-linux equivalent to the winxp's "hibernate" feature? (saving all of the ram contents to the hdd and then loading the ram from the hdd)
[12:42] <Determinist> limguohong91, you need to chmod +x <file you just downloaded> and then run it using sh <filename>, you can then edit your fstab file if you dont like the names it's given your partitions. the added bonus is that now your windows partition would appear under the places menu in gnome :)
[12:42] <ernst> hi
[12:42] <Ng> ejofee: choose Hibernate on the log out screen. it may not work though
[12:42] <kcantin> it said "could not find package talkd"??
[12:43] <cafuego> Special, all windows in gnome went completely transparent.
[12:43] <ejofee> Ng: which app does this "hibernate" feature use? gdm itself?
[12:43] <bimberi> kcantin: you'll need to enable the universe repository ...
[12:43] <ompaul> talkd is in universe
[12:43] <bimberi> ubotu tell kcantin about universe
[12:43] <irma> meby becouse i started gnome session?
[12:43] <Ng> ejofee: it uses acpi I think
[12:43] <ejofee> Ng: thanks.
[12:43] <limguohong91> Thanks a lot Determinist but i just have to do " sudo bash diskmounter " and hda1 appear under places :D
[12:43] <ernst> i am trying to run a patch for wine, but the patch can't find the files that need to be patched, nor can i! PATCH: http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~danieleb/wine-0.9.4-reverse-bitmaprendering.patch
[12:44] <Determinist> limguohong91, that works too :)
[12:44] <irma> brb... jouni.. i reboot;)
[12:44] <limguohong91> Seriously, thanks a lot Determinist , you are really great :)
[12:44] <Determinist> limguohong91, i had good teachers
[12:44] <Seveas> cafuego, system -> admin -> disks *g8
[12:44] <jahshu> is ndiswrapper preinstalled?
[12:44] <ernst> no
[12:45] <limguohong91> Determinist :p Thanks a lot :D
[12:45] <ernst> it's a default package of ubuntu, and can be installed very easy
[12:45] <cafuego> Pff
[12:45] <cilkay> Hi. I have a fressh installation of Breezy done via debootstrap. When I run base-config, I get an error: Problem installing the selected software.... etc. There are supposedly broken packages as a result but aptitude doesn't find any. I've tried two different mirrors. This is my first time installing Ubuntu. Any idea how I can work around this?
[12:45] <jahshu> hough add aplication or synaptic?
[12:45] <Determinist> ok, back to nagging to the guys at handhelds.org to get me a linux distro to run on my ppc :)
[12:45] <cilkay> BTW, I used debootstrap because I'm installing on a Xen VPS.
[12:46] <ernst> synaptic search for ndiswrapper
[12:46] <jahshu> ty ernst
[12:46] <kcantin> thanks everyone... doing that now
[12:47] <ernst> Can anyone help me with this wine patch: http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~danieleb/wine-0.9.4-reverse-bitmaprendering.patch
[12:47] <kcantin> after restarting inetd don't I have to run mesg y or something like that?
[12:47] <fireonyx> quick ?...  How do I get my comp to suspend to memory without it asking for my password several times?
[12:47] <ernst> I can't find the files that need to be patched
[12:48] <jouni__m> cilkay you can try dpkg --configure -a
[12:48] <lowman62> g'morn/aft'noon/evenin ubuntu tech support room :)
[12:48] <ernst> hi
[12:49] <Determinist> howdy
[12:50] <lowman62> o'boy need a pail of coffee this morn :P
[12:53] <jahshu> so to use ndiswrapper one can run the install cd ni linux?
[12:54] <Ap4ch3> how do I use/set the advanced surround sound settings (EAX, EQ settings) on my VIA CT8237 chip in ubuntu? Under windows there are lots of option for the equalizer, speaker config etc
[12:54] <ernst> jahsu: what do you mean?
[12:55] <seamen2> ja
[12:55] <Determinist> Ap4ch3, not sure these features exist mate... those are driver related and last i checked not too many hardware makers are eager to cooperate
[12:57] <dc> hi
[12:57] <dc>  ?
[12:57] <Seveas> dc, #ubuntu-ru perhaps
[12:58] <aSaT> When printing over parport, pages get stalled for like half an hour. I'd like to test in polling mode, but modprobe parport irq=none does not work (Unknown parameter `irq')
[12:58] <aSaT> Other things I could try?
[01:00] <km0ti0n> I can;t find mono_mod in apt
[01:01] <km0ti0n> I am using "universe" but no joy
[01:01] <ernst> nobody nows about my wine patch that i can't get to work: http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~danieleb/wine-0.9.4-reverse-bitmaprendering.patch
[01:01] <ernst> i can't find the right dll files
[01:02] <kemik> km0ti0n:  there's nosuch package
[01:04] <Ap4ch3> Thanks Determinist :) ........the current  oss driver is fine though...works great... just not as many controls as winblows :)
[01:04] <cilkay> jouni__m: thanks. I just tried dpkg --configure -a. It didn't do anything so I presume that means I have no broken packages.
[01:04] <Determinist> Ap4ch3, aye :)
[01:05] <jahshu> so to use ndiswrapper one can run the install cd ni linux?
[01:05] <jouni__m> cilkay that means you don't have any uncofigured packages, I think.
[01:06] <cilkay> jouni__m: probably. Not much installed yet anyway.
[01:07] <ernst> jahshu: to run ndiswrapper use Synaptic Package Manager
[01:07] <ernst> then use the terminal and follow the ndiswrapper instructions
[01:09] <ernst> jahshu: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Installation
[01:09] <dwerf> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.04 _breezy Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407) breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.04%20%5fbreezy%20Hedgehog%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20050407)_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory
[01:10] <dwerf> what does that mean?
[01:10] <liable> dwerf: you dont have the cd in the drive?
[01:10] <liable> dwerf: comment oput the cdrom line in sources list
[01:13] <dwerf> ok thanx
[01:13] <dwerf> off course
[01:15] <jouni__m> cilkay hmm. they dropped base-config from dapper. it's still in breezy. hope you get it working or maybe there is alternative way.
[01:18] <tr00nd>
[01:21] <jouni__m> cilkay what does base-config do apart from setting timezone (and repositories?)? could you apt-get install ubuntu-base and/or ubuntu-minimal?
[01:22] <Toma-> jouni__m: id go with or
[01:24] <miki> Hi. I can't figure out how to change resolution higher than 1280x800. I've edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf so resolutions are up to 1600x1200 but under gnome I can't choose from up to 1280x800.
[01:25] <Toma-> ubotu: tell miki about fixres
[01:25] <miki> Hi. I can't figure out how to change resolution higher than 1280x800. I've edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf so resolutions are up to 1600x1200 but under gnome I just can choose from up to 1280x800.
[01:25] <miki> ok thx
[01:25] <Toma-> np
[01:26] <liable> !seen bob2
[01:26] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'bob2', liable
[01:27] <km0ti0n> How can i find out hat process is using my port 80?
[01:27] <km0ti0n> I want tto run apache2 on it
[01:28] <liable> netstat -plunt
[01:29] <pl_ice> hi ya
[01:29] <Toma-> lo
[01:30] <pl_ice> guys, i got problem with a laptop, sony vaio, when i boot knoppix or ubuntu live i can't mount the hd, it just doesn't exist!
[01:30] <km0ti0n> liable: thanks
[01:30] <Toma-> pl_ice: what FS is on this harddrive?
[01:30] <liable> np
[01:30] <Seveas> pl_ice, does fdisk -l list it?
[01:31] <pl_ice> the partition is ntfs, cfdisk doesn't recognise it...
[01:31] <pl_ice> not sure fdisk, hold on
[01:31] <km0ti0n> liable: it tell me a precess is listening but not what it is tho
[01:32] <Toma-> pl_ice: ntfs isnt supported fully by linux, usually only read-only...
[01:32] <km0ti0n> tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:80              <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN     -
[01:32] <km0ti0n> that's all i have
[01:32] <pl_ice> Toma- yeh, i know but the partition/ hd just doesn't exist :)
[01:32] <pl_ice> can't understand what had happened
[01:32] <Toma-> is it scsi or anything?
[01:32] <pl_ice> in proc/scsi there is nothing, empty log, it's a laptop
[01:33] <fcastelo> Hi there
[01:33] <liable> km0ti0n: the right hand side, if theres no name, and you dont have a httpd installed, then you should be thinking 'have i been hacked'..
[01:34] <Toma-> sif
[01:35] <fcastelo> I like to know what should I do to make Firefox 1.5 install in Breezy. It returns a message error: libstdc++.so.5 is missing or something. I've already tried to make a symbolic link and didn't work out.
[01:36] <km0ti0n> liable: this was installed 2/3 hours ago.
[01:36] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[01:36] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:36] <km0ti0n> the change of being hacked.
[01:36] <Toma-> fcastelo: get this package libstdc++5
[01:36] <km0ti0n> is there no way of tellign exactally what process is listening?
[01:36] <fcastelo> I couldn't find a package to Ubuntu or Debian. Just FD4.
[01:38] <fcastelo> Toma-: I couldn't find a package to Ubuntu or Debian. Just FD4.
[01:38] <Toma-> !info libstdc++5
[01:38] <gnomefreak> fcastelo, hold on a sec
[01:38] <ubotu> libstdc++5: (The GNU Standard C++ Library v3), section base, is optional. Version: 1:3.3.6-8ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 288 kB, Installed size: 848 kB
[01:38] <Toma-> u sure?
[01:39] <katie^> wow
[01:39] <katie^> open office is like so slow
[01:39] <thux> Hi, what file I can write modules that I don't want to load at boot time?
[01:39] <Toma-> katie^: 2.0 is alot quicker
[01:39] <Seveas> km0ti0n, sudo netstat -tlnp
[01:40] <fcastelo> Yes. I've searched in google, and didn't find it.
[01:40] <prada> fcastelo: apt-get install libstdc++5 doesn't work !! ?
[01:40] <xiao> IS THERE ANY WAY TO HOLD MORE CHARS HORIZONTALL AND VERTICALL IN CONSOLE??
[01:40] <Toma-> xiao: no caps thx
[01:40] <km0ti0n> Seveas: thanks it showing apache
[01:40] <xiao> I AM USING 80X25 OR SUCH
[01:40] <xiao> ok!
[01:41] <nalioth> Toma-: howdy from the usual box!
[01:41] <Toma-> hey nalioth :)
[01:41] <prada> fcastelo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/libstdc++5
[01:41] <katie^> how can i say
[01:41] <fcastelo> prada: I didn't find the package to Ubuntu or Debian.
[01:41] <katie^> "i recently quit college" without it sounding so UGH
[01:41] <Seveas> xiao, add vga=792 to the kernel parameters
[01:41] <Toma-> xiao: like, a gnome terminal or a tty?
[01:41] <xiao> is ther any way to hold more chars horizontall and verticall in console?
[01:41] <prada> fcastelo: sent you the link ..
[01:41] <gnomefreak> fcastelo, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:41] <eazel7> hi
[01:41] <xiao> tty
[01:42] <Toma-> xiao: do what Seveas said
[01:42] <xiao> more than 80, eg 120
[01:42] <Seveas> katie^, "I made a non-educational career move"
[01:42] <xiao> i have got '19 and 80x25 is ridiculous
[01:42] <Toma-> or set a smaller default font
[01:42] <xiao> how to add it?
[01:42] <fcastelo> para: I really appreciate your help. Tks. I'll try this.
[01:42] <gnomefreak> fcastelo, try apt-cache search libstdc++5
[01:42] <xiao> where i can find kernel??
[01:42] <Seveas> xiao, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst, find the line that starts with #KOPT and add it there
[01:43] <katie^> i just quit, without a job or anything
[01:43] <xiao> can i use nano insterad of gedit?
[01:43] <nalioth> xiao: use what you like
[01:43] <katie^> so now i need to try and get a job with this company, so what baout I made a non-educational career move as to find a job in which I can learn at the same time as working as to be more independent
[01:43] <katie^> or some bs
[01:44] <xiao> it isn't #KOPT in that file!
[01:44] <Toma-> xiao: the one that says "kernel"
[01:45] <pl_ice> Seveas , fdisk -l does not list anything
[01:45] <Toma-> xiao: make sure you backup that menu.lst file first...
[01:45] <Seveas> pl_ice, sudo fdisk -l
[01:45] <xiao> already did
[01:46] <thux> do I have to do touch /etc/modprobe.conf ?
[01:46] <DaBlacky> hello everybody
[01:46] <pl_ice> Seveas yeh, got root, i'm u/d knoppix ubuntu didin't want to start
[01:46] <xiao> Toma: mean that: kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/hdd5 ro quiet splash ?
[01:46] <Seveas> pl_ice, then your drive may very well be FUBAR
[01:47] <Toma-> xiao: indeed
[01:47] <pl_ice> Seveas it's xp on it, ant it works... that's why i can't understand it ...
[01:47] <Seveas> pl_ice, hmmmmmmm
[01:47] <Seveas> weally, weally weiwd
[01:48] <xiao> toma-: idea: can I add many modes with diffrent resolutions to menu to choose?
[01:48] <j2daosh> hey... got a question. how do you restart the gui? like say it froze up but i can still login as root on the tty1-6? is there a way to restart the gui cleanly or will the machine have to be rebooted?
[01:48] <pl_ice> Seveas i'm gonna move the hd to another laptop, c what happens, if not then plugi it in to IDE
[01:48] <DaBlacky> My Ubuntu Live 5.10-cd won't start... anyone ideas? It stops at scanning the cd-rom by 86 % (cdrom/pool/pool/pool/pool/pool(bunch of pool/)programs/readmes/readme_US-en.txt
[01:49] <j2daosh> yeah... ur cd might be all scratched up
[01:49] <pl_ice> DaBlacky u got laptop?...
[01:49] <xiao> DaBlacky, clean the cd
[01:49] <DaBlacky> well... it's fresh cd... just burned it
[01:49] <j2daosh> is it like restart xorg or something?
[01:49] <DaBlacky> and I have burned it twice, both same problem
[01:49] <DaBlacky> no, no laptop
[01:49] <j2daosh> then ur distro might be bad
[01:49] <DaBlacky> damn...
[01:50] <xiao> try another one cd
[01:50] <Toma-> DaBlacky: did you check the md5sum?
[01:50] <eazel7> how can I build a package for breezy taking a dapper source?
[01:50] <DaBlacky> but is it normal he looks for pool/pool/pool/pool/pool/ ... /pool... I mean, it's a lot pool
[01:50] <DaBlacky> How do I check the md5sum? where to do that?
[01:50] <Toma-> DaBlacky: "md5sum thebreezy.iso"
[01:51] <Toma-> then check it against the md5sum file on the download server...
[01:51] <Toma-> 1md5sum
[01:51] <Toma-> !md5sum
[01:51] <ubotu> md5sum is, like, totally, to verify your ISO, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[01:51] <DaBlacky> ok, I will do that
[01:51] <DaBlacky> be back in a few minutes ;)
[01:51] <j2daosh> how do i restart redhat gui?
[01:51] <xiao> ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:51] <e1tiger4lidt> hey... is it possible to get a old windows/DOS -game to work wit ubuntu?
[01:52] <j2daosh> just ter the tty and then getty07?
[01:52] <Toma-> e1tiger4lidt: yep. check out dosbox
[01:52] <xiao> sudo apt-cache search dos
[01:52] <Toma-> !info dosbox
[01:52] <ubotu> dosbox: (A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA graphics, sound and DOS), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.63-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 368 kB, Installed size: 1000 kB
[01:52] <j2daosh> ctrl+alt+backspace for what?
[01:52] <e1tiger4lidt> ill do that - thanks!
[01:52] <Toma-> np
[01:52] <pl_ice> Seveas just checked, the xp still works! wth?
[01:54] <DaBlacky> the md5sum is 49f36f8aef009d6403360de23b5a47d4 *ubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso
[01:54] <DaBlacky> where can I check the correctness?
[01:55] <Seveas> @bugtracker add freedesktop bugzilla https://bugs.freedesktop.org Freedesktop
[01:55] <Seveas> @bugtracker add gnome bugzilla http://bugs.gnome.org Gnome