[00:00] <skiwithpete> hi
[00:00] <skiwithpete> I installed from the RC and I'm having loads of browsing issures
[00:00] <skiwithpete> sorry, issues
[00:00] <Sirisian> gm|lap, do you know anything about that. How would I know I'm compiling for an older kernel version. When I run uname -r I get: "2.6.28-11-generic" and I have /usr/src/linux-2.6.28/ which seems the same?
[00:01] <skiwithpete> is this a known issue?
[00:01] <pukeko> howdy.. can a bridge ( virtual interface ) have more than two 'real' interfaces i.e two radios and one ethernet /
[00:01] <pukeko> *?
[00:01] <jrib> !karmic | skiwithpete
[00:01] <graingert> it's not out!
[00:01] <skiwithpete> cheers.
[00:01] <gm|lap> Sirisian: see if there's somewhere you can see the ABI version
[00:02] <gm|lap> wait a minute...
[00:02] <gm|lap> i have 2.6.28-16-generic
[00:02] <noel> how much time for the new release?
[00:02] <Pici> noel, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[00:02] <gm|lap> chances are it may have updated on you
[00:02] <gm|lap> also, a make clean might help
[00:02] <Sirisian> gm|lap, I have that kernel too. If I run using that kernel I get no dfference.
[00:02] <nquintero_col> ubottu. Thanks for your links. I will follow their instructions and check sound again.
[00:02] <noel> thanks
[00:03] <fairhonanth_br> what's up
[00:03] <fairhonanth_br> guys
[00:03] <Sirisian> gm|lap, One moment. Let me try something. I'll be back
[00:04] <Cam42> Anyone know why empathy's spell check is so terrible?
[00:04] <nquintero_col> jmadgin: I think this machine has a Realtek sound card. This is a HP tx2-1020 laptop.
[00:04] <ak> does dhcp handle getting of nameservers? Does that work whether ip is static or dynamic?
[00:04] <fairhonanth_br> empathy is sucks man
[00:05] <lstarnes> ak: dhcp can handle that
[00:05] <lstarnes> ak: when using manually assigned static IPs without dhcp, use /etc/resolv.conf
[00:05] <ak> lstarnes: do I have to tell dhcp to do that?
[00:05] <lstarnes> ak: dhcp isn't usually used for static configuration
[00:05] <fairhonanth_br> that software is so immature
[00:05] <ShapeShifter499> how do I un-install a file manager without messing with another desktop evironment?
[00:05] <ShapeShifter499> *environment
[00:06] <ak> lstarnes: is there any way to use static IP but at the same time get nameserver automatically through dhcp?
[00:06] <lstarnes> ak: I'm not sure
[00:06] <ak> ok thanks
[00:06] <ak> anyone else know?
[00:06] <Mike_lifeguard> I'm using echo "$line" | netcat -u <IP_ADDRESS> 1234 to send data to a process which then listens on that port. But then I'm left with netcat processes sitting around for no reason - how can I have the netcat process die once there is no more input from the echo (or something with similar effect)?
[00:06] <emerica> I'm running a multihomed cli machine eth0 and eth1, the app i'm using doesn't allow specification of what interface to Multicast out of and defaults to eth1, what would be the right way to get it to default to eth0, short of adding setsocketopts to the application
[00:06] <crypto_> I am using Ubuntu 9.04 and my headphone doesnt seem to work, even if i put in the headphone jack the sound comes from the laptops default speakers, i have been searching in the forums for a long time but no use, any kind of help will be appreciated
[00:06] <fairhonanth_br> unfortunately pidgin is so much better
[00:06] <gm|lap> ak: what i'm about to suggest is a hackjob...
[00:07] <ak> gm|lap: that's fine
[00:07] <gm|lap> after dhclient runs, make it do ifconfig on your device or something
[00:07] <ShapeShifter499> g2g
[00:07] <ShapeShifter499> bye
[00:07] <pukeko> ak: can you reserve the static on the dhcpd ?
[00:07] <ak> pukeko: nope
[00:07] <pukeko> ap: for the box in question ?
[00:08] <gm|lap> e.g. if you're going this on eth0 and your IP should be <IP_ADDRESS>, you find out when dhclient runs, and then after that, you do: ifconfig <IP_ADDRESS> up
[00:08] <ak> gm|lap: which script runs dhclient?
[00:08] <Billiard> crypto_: maybe use the timeout option
[00:08] <gm|lap> ak: lemme find it
[00:08] <crypto_>  I am using Ubuntu 9.04 and my headphone doesnt seem to work, even if i put in the headphone jack the sound comes from the laptops default speakers, i have been searching in the forums for a long time but no use, any kind of help will be appreciated
[00:08] <Billiard> sorry not at crypto_
[00:09] <Billiard> Mike_lifeguard: maybe use the timeout option
[00:09] <SpacePigeon> what are the cons of not using pulse audio?
[00:10] <SpacePigeon> There is something else I can use, right?
[00:10] <gm|lap> ak: i think NetworkManager is what brings it up, and is invoked from /etc/init.d/NetworkManager... a hackjob would be tricky in this regard
[00:10] <gm|lap> look in /etc/network/if-up.d/
[00:10] <pukeko> ak: what are you trying to do.. don't you have admin on the dhcpd box ?
[00:10] <nquintero_col> Crypto: I have same problem. User ubottu write this for my issue, possibly it could works for you:
[00:10] <nquintero_col> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[00:10] <ak> gm|lap: ok thanks!
[00:10] <mattgyver> Hey all, whats a good alternative to Visio for Ubuntu?
[00:11] <gm|lap> mattgyver: there's openoffice.org drawing
[00:11] <gm|lap> although i'm not sure if that's "good"
[00:11] <gm|lap> maybe dia floats your boat more
[00:11] <ak> pukeko: I don't have admin on dhcpd, only on client.. I have embedded system that needs to make itself available over ssh.. this means static ip so that router can be configured to let ssh through
[00:11] <mattgyver> gm|lap, yeah im looking for something thats pretty close to visio, i have one on the tip of my tonge but cant remember the name of it
[00:11] <bostrt> hi i have asked this question few times over the past few days but nothing: i cannot ssh into my ubuntu machine anymore and the only change i can think of has been i lock my screen now.  No updates or anything. The same thing happened to me in Arch Linux, no ssh after locking screen.  Both use gnome.
[00:12] <Billiard> bostrt: what happens when you try to connect?
[00:13] <pukeko> ak: ..so therefore you may be facing address conflicts if you nominate yr own ip ..?
[00:13] <gm|lap> actually... i believe that NetworkManager messes with those scripts...
[00:14] <Kalculus> What are the requirements for a username in linux?  (what characters are valid, etc) ?
[00:14] <ak> pukeko: I'm not sure, but I dont' think so.. router is configured usually to start ips from 100; I have two systems that have static ...10 and ...15
[00:14] <gm|lap> so all i can really think of is turning off NetworkManager altogether, and invoking dhclient and ifconfig yourself
[00:14] <gm|lap> e.g. dhclient eth0; ifconfig eth0 <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:14] <gm|lap> erm
[00:14] <gm|lap> something like that
[00:15] <ak> gm|lap: yep, I will look into that.. isn't it just dhclient without args?
[00:15] <nquintero_col> Another question... What must I configure to connect as VPN Client using IPSEC/L2TP?
[00:15] <Mike_lifeguard> Billiard: Thanks a bunch, I did see the q option, but I didn't understand what it was for :D
[00:15] <lstarnes> Kalculus: likely anything from a-z, A-Z, and 0-9 without spaces
[00:15] <gm|lap> ak: you generally give it an interface
[00:15] <ak> oh ok
[00:15] <bostrt> Billiard: From putty the connection times out, from another unix machine nothing happens, just sits
[00:15] <lstarnes> Kalculus: there may be additional characters allowed
[00:15] <ak> I've always run it incorrectly then :)
[00:15] <pukeko> ak: coz you may have more than one
[00:15] <emerica> Is there a default network interface in ubuntu? how is it set? this multicast stuff if not setup for multihomed just goes to the default int
[00:15] <gm|lap> there's /etc/rc2.d and /etc/init.d if you're wondering... stuff beginning with an S in rc*.d starts up, and beginning with K does not
[00:15] <ak> pukeko: I see, I always had one, that's why..
[00:16] <gm|lap> also, there's /etc/rc.local
[00:16] <Kalculus> lstarnes: hmm..  would you know what site i can find out the exact limitations?  i can't seem to find it on google
[00:16] <ak> gm|lap: yeah, I know about that startup stuff.. I've done a few custom scripts before
[00:16] <lstarnes> Kalculus: sorry, I don't
[00:17] <bostrt> Billiard: in verbose it sits here debug1: Connecting to xxxxxxxxx [xxxxxxxxxxx] port 22.
[00:17] <gm|lap> ok, you should be pretty much sorted then... the only real issue is that your networking is going to be a hackjob
[00:17] <lstarnes> Kalculus: you could probably check the man pages and source code for the various account-related utilities or the linux kernel
[00:17] <gm|lap> but the point is that it works
[00:18] <ak> gm|lap: but isn't dhcp setup going to be messed up by running ifconfig after it? Isn't dhcpd going to think I'm still at the automatic ip?
[00:18] <jedc> Does anyone have advice for getting a cannon ip90 printer to work with 9.04?
[00:18] <gm|lap> ak: it all depends on your router...
[00:18] <gm|lap> i think it'd be MUCH more concerned if you changed your MAC address in some what
[00:18] <gm|lap> s/what/way/
[00:19] <Billiard> bostrt: and if you unlock your screen it works?
[00:19] <ak> gm|lap: what types of router will accept this hack and what types won't? I actually potentially will have to deploy this on any/all router networks..
[00:19] <gm|lap> ak: that's what you'll have to find out yourself... lemme see what other params dhclient takes
[00:19] <gm|lap> also, make damn well sure that NetworkManager is disabled
[00:19] <bostrt> Billiard: no, I disabled the autoscreen lock and still does not work. But ssh did stop working on the same day i enabled it for the first time
[00:20] <diofeher> when ubuntu 10.4 will release?
[00:20] <Pici> diofeher, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[00:20] <gm|lap> actually... have a look in /etc/dhcp3
[00:20] <lstarnes> diofeher: 10.04 = 4th month of 2001
[00:20] <pukeko> ak: you may also have to watch out for any lowend switches in between
[00:20] <lstarnes> diofeher: *2010
[00:20] <diofeher> Pici: huhu, thanks man =)
[00:21] <diofeher> oh, 2010?
[00:21] <gm|lap> and: man dhclient.conf
[00:21] <Pici> diofeher: er, sorry, I'm on autopilot. I thought you were asking about 9.10
[00:21] <lstarnes> diofeher: april 2010
[00:21] <jamieleshaw> Hello, what time will karmic be released?
[00:21] <jamieleshaw> in utc that is
[00:21] <user2> I'm trying to port a BASH script to CSH, why does the following not work?
[00:21] <user2> BASH: if [[ uname -a | grep -q <name> ]]; then ...
[00:21] <user2> CSH: if ( { uname -a | grep -q <name> } ) then ...
[00:21] <Pici> jamieleshaw, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[00:21] <diofeher> Pici: hehe, no problem
[00:22] <lstarnes> user2: try using tcsh instead of csh
[00:22] <user2> lstarnes: I don't think that's a valid answer :)
[00:22] <ak> gm|lap: I see, great, I think that's exactly what I need
[00:22] <lstarnes> user2: it is valid to me
[00:22] <lstarnes> user2: what errors do you get?
[00:23] <user2> lstarnes: I don't get any errors, but the expression always evaluates as false
[00:23] <lstarnes> user2: what do you get in bash?
[00:23] <user2> The BASH I listed works
[00:24] <user2> I.e. when the machine name is <name> the conditional code is executed
[00:24] <Doonz> hey guys, kinda a weird question. is there a way to set a directory so it automatically list directories by date of edit so that when i type ls it does the same as ls -tl
[00:24] <user2> In CSH it is never executed
[00:24] <bae9> hey
[00:24] <tonyyarusso> Doonz: not that I know of, but you could alias ls to do that globally
[00:24] <user2> Doonz: alias ls='ls -tl'
[00:25] <nick1> Whats the best kind of booze to put into egg nog?
[00:25] <nick1> i have some really good Promised Land dairy egg nog
[00:25] <Helsinkiii> hi-i messed around with Alsa Mixer settings and now my mic doesn't work and my sound sounds weird. i tried resetting it via terminal but it doesnt change anything. i have a conference call and need this running in 5 minutes AHHH
[00:25] <pukeko> nick1: cheap red wine ?
[00:25] <bae9> Are the leaked Ubuntu 9.10 on pirate bay http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5139359 and http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5139362/Ubuntu_9.10_FINAL_LEAKED______AMD64_version genuine ??
[00:25] <BenZ__> Hi, I need someone to point me in the right direction.  I installed the RC of 9.10 using the update manager of 9.04.  When I rebooted, it does get past the boot loader, but it seems the ramdisk(bootimage?) cannot find the UUID of the disk and it stops there.  Any thoughts on what went wrong (or how I might go about fixing it)?  I was going to try booting off a LiveCD so I could work it from there.
[00:25] <Jack_d_Lantern> Helsinkiii, there is always running a livecd for your session
[00:25] <Doonz> ok now for part two of my question. If I have something that connects through nfs can i make it default list like that?
[00:26] <nick1> cheap red wine are you kidding me
[00:26] <GodfatherofEire> nick1 brandy or rum
[00:26] <Helsinkiii> i don't have it-lent it
[00:26] <lstarnes> bae9: only trust things officially published by ubuntu
[00:26] <bastid_raZor> user2: ls -al is a bit more human readable.
[00:26] <gm|lap> bae9: what kind of idiot torrents a free open-source OS over the pirate bay
[00:26] <nick1> whats the best kind of rum to use? myers dark rum or maybe captain morgans spiced rum?
[00:26] <th1> lstarnes, how can I checlk?
[00:26] <gm|lap> of course it isn't.
[00:26] <Flannel> nick1: Please stay ontopic, thanks.
[00:26] <Helsinkiii> i'm screwed somebody please help.how do i reset alsa mixer settings?????
[00:26] <nick1> ok im sorry
[00:26] <user2> bastid_raZor: That's not what the question asked for.
[00:26] <nick1> i just thought you guys are so helpful !
[00:26] <nick1> you woul dknow !
[00:26] <bae9> ?
[00:26] <gm|lap> Helsinkiii: not sure... do you know what you did?
[00:26] <hardbop200> hi, I'm trying to find some doc on how to enable the grub menu in 9.10 (there's no menu.lst)...can someone point me to the right place?
[00:27] <bastid_raZor> user2: my mistake.
[00:27] <Flannel> hardbop200: #ubuntu+1 for Karmic support, thanks
[00:27] <Jack_d_Lantern> Helsinkiii, try /join #Alsa  while   waiting
[00:27] <Helsinkiii> gm|lap no
[00:27] <hardbop200> Flannel: will do, thanks
[00:27] <tianna> what is this?
[00:27] <gm|lap> that's your biggest problem.
[00:27] <lstarnes> user2: oddly enough it fails for me in bash
[00:27] <BenZ__> hardbop200, the new grub2 doesn't use menu.lst, it uses grub.cfg (or something like that)
[00:27] <gm|lap> because if you don't, neither do we.
[00:27] <user2> lstarnes: That is odd - it works for me
[00:27] <tianna> ?
[00:28] <pukeko> nick1: i'd go for a light Rum .. and then install karmic beta
[00:28] <tianna> kentucky deluxe?
[00:28] <user2> lstarnes: I use it in my .bashrc to set up the environment based on the machine I'm on
[00:28] <nick1> how do you upgrade to karmic from jaunty
[00:28] <Jack_d_Lantern> tianna, a support channel for u
[00:28] <nick1> i dont have a cd burner
[00:28] <tianna> what is a support channel?
[00:28] <lstarnes> nick1: when it is released, you can do it with the update manager
[00:28] <Jack_d_Lantern> !irc
[00:28] <nick1> oh okay cool
[00:28] <lstarnes> tianna: a help channel
[00:28] <nick1> ill surely do that
[00:28] <lstarnes> nick1: you may need to go into software sources and allow upgrades to non-lts releases
[00:29] <tianna> i may need this obviously
[00:29] <Jack_d_Lantern> !ask
[00:29] <tianna> ok...why cant i download anything regular on this thing
[00:29] <BenZ__> I need someone to point me in the right direction.  I installed the RC of 9.10 using the update manager of 9.04.  When I rebooted, it does get past the boot loader, but it seems the ramdisk(bootimage?) cannot find the UUID of the disk and it stops there.  Any thoughts on what went wrong (or how I might go about fixing it)?  I was going to try booting off a LiveCD so I could work it from there.
[00:29] <tianna> i cANT DO ANYTHING NORMAL
[00:30] <tking> but
[00:30] <tking> can you do things... abnormally?
[00:30] <Billiard> tianna: such as?
[00:30] <Jack_d_Lantern> google the u pocket guide
[00:30] <lstarnes> tianna: ubuntu is not windows
[00:30] <ZykoticK9> BenZ__, ask the same question in #ubuntu+1
[00:30] <tianna> maybe as dumb as it sounds my messengers..i can get on windows...
[00:30] <tianna> my windows crashed i cant get it right i cant even get in
[00:30] <digifor> Is there an alternative to plugging my usb into a Windows machine to get it working again?
[00:31] <tianna> i get this
[00:31] <velko> BenZ__, maybe you can substitute the uuid by the device name (/dev/sda1) and/or position (hd0,0)
[00:31] <tianna> i am quite confused
[00:31] <crypto_> how to use windows boot loader instead of GRUB?
[00:31] <Jack_d_Lantern> dig you can force mount it
[00:31] <user2> crypto: I don't think you can
[00:32] <geomi> hey guys im looking for /var/run/dmesg.boot but can't find it. where should i be able to locate this file?
[00:32] <crypto_> well i have a dual boot vista and ubuntu
[00:32] <crypto_> i want to use the windows boot loader instead of GRUb, will running fixmbr be a good option
[00:32] <tianna> why did my other operationg system crash?
[00:32] <velko> geomi, the file is called /var/log/dmesg
[00:32] <lstarnes> tianna: the people in ##windows can probably help
[00:33] <ZykoticK9> crypto_, if you don't want to boot into Ubuntu anymore that would work fine -- if you DO want to still boot Ubuntu you HAVE to use Grub
[00:33] <GodfatherofEire> beat me to it Istarnes
[00:33] <geomi> velko: doesn't exist for me, running 9.04. any other places?
[00:33] <tianna> oh gooodness thank you
[00:33] <maria1> is there an issue with the wireless on 9.04?   disconnecting upon high-speed transfers and intermittently?
[00:33] <crypto_> well the problem is i get 4 boot options for ubuntu
[00:33] <canthus13> NTloader will boot linux.
[00:33] <geomi> velko: sorry i found it. you were right. thanks :)
[00:33] <bostrt> Billiard:any ideas?
[00:33] <crypto_> one is skernel something point 15 and one is something point 11 the fifteen one wont work
[00:33] <Billiard> crypto_: you can remove the old kernels
[00:34] <Jack_d_Lantern> crypto_, edit the oot gru menu.lst to your liking
[00:34] <ax-ax> and memtest
[00:34] <canthus13> Unfortunately, ubuntu updates will NOT update NTloader and you will have to manually update NTloader to the latest kernel version.
[00:34] <ax-ax> !
[00:34] <Jack_d_Lantern> sorry no d key
[00:34] <crypto_> kernel 15 aint working kernel 11 is working
[00:34] <Billiard> bostrt: nope, i dont have a gui on the machine i ssh to
[00:34] <crypto_> i get some strange kinda screen when i boot into kernel 15 something like bad TV transmission
[00:35] <spO`> should i update ubuntu right now  ? or should i wait until friday?
[00:35] <canthus13> crypto_: fixmbr will remove grub and only boot windows.
[00:35] <darkham> it exist something like mac automator, on ubuntu?
[00:35] <gm|lap> argh does anyone know how to fix the stupid battery meter
[00:35] <gm|lap> it keeps saying it's fully charged
[00:35] <metbsd> spO, what's the difference
[00:35] <gm|lap> yes it's actually charging
[00:35] <usser> spO`, at this point it doesnt matter, i'd update now, because on 29th the traffic will be insane
[00:36] <gm|lap> "Laptop battery fully charged (79.1%)"
[00:36] <usser> spO`, it probably already is but not quite that bad
[00:36] <canthus13> crypto_: This may help, tho... http://bkpavan.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/how-to-boot-linux-using-windows-bootloader-xp/
[00:36] <spO`> will there be much updates from here to friday?
[00:36] <usser> spO`, i doubt it
[00:36] <spO`> Maybe there will be a special big update just before friday on midnight, kind of like the update surprise
[00:36] <crypto_> canthus13 my new version of kernel wont boot, giving me strange errors
[00:37] <ctmjr> usser: that is bad advice it is not stable yet
[00:37] <spO`> so i guess i will simply backup my settings and install the new ubuntu now
[00:37] <usser> ctmjr, its a release candidate meaning, that since theres no time left for another RC it will go released pretty much as is
[00:37] <canthus13> crypto_: Hmm. Could be video drivers.  Karmic?
[00:37] <usser> spO`, look at the page of still unfixed issues see if anything concerns you
[00:38] <usser> spO`, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910overview
[00:38] <usser> spO`, scroll down to known issues
[00:38] <Knuthy> Hello
[00:38] <d0htem> need to speak to an ubuntu operator
[00:38] <crypto_> This is an alpha release. Do not install it on production machines. The final stable version will be released on October 29th, 2009. Is it the 29th in india or in USA
[00:38] <d0htem> pretty inportant, ubuntu final leaked
[00:39] <usser> !karmic
[00:39] <crypto_> Cause its 29th in india
[00:39] <lstarnes> d0htem: it's open-source so a leak probably isn't that big of an issue
[00:39] <usser> crypto_, probably 29th in africa
[00:39] <beachdaze> which time zone is the release set for?
[00:39] <digifor> Is there an alternative to plugging my usb memory stick into a Windows machine to get it working again?
[00:39] <lstarnes> beachdaze: none
[00:39] <bostrt> Billiard: i have no idea but it just started working. after three days of nothing
[00:39] <bostrt> i did nothing
[00:40] <pukeko> 29th in NZ
[00:40] <Billiard> bostrt: idk thats odd, you sure ports are open correctly?
[00:40] <canthus13> I'd say it's set for whenever the counter on ubuntu.com ticks over.
[00:40] <usser> they'll be a couple of days late as usual
[00:41] <bostrt> Billiard: just nmap'ed it. the port was filtered but now is open
[00:41] <krishna> !isitout
[00:42] <david_> hi folks
[00:43] <vfen_> when does 9.10 release?
[00:43] <lstarnes> vfen_: later
[00:43] <mataks> is there an aim program for linux?
[00:43] <mataks> what's the name?
[00:43] <Guest51325> tomorrow?
[00:43] <david_> highlighting text in ubuntu (that should make it part of the register) isn't working.  any ideas?
[00:44] <lstarnes> vfen_: sometime within the next 24 hours or so
[00:44] <Helsinkiii> how to run this command: alsa force-reload???
[00:44] <vfen_> do i have to reinstall ubuntu then or?
[00:44] <Billiard> mataks: pidgin or empathy
[00:44] <Billiard> vfen_: no
[00:44] <Guest51325> pidgin
[00:44] <lstarnes> vfen_: you can, but you don't have to
[00:44] <Powersource> anyone good at ubuntuzilla? the please help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1304012
[00:45] <Guest51325> anyone running squid on ubuntu server?  How's performance?
[00:45] <mattgyver> Powersource, what the heck is ubuntuzilla?
[00:45] <Funnyface2> hello, is there any way I can run the ARM release of ubuntu on my x86? I was hoping Qemu would do the job, but I can't seem to find a way to set it to emulate an ARM CPU
[00:46] <Powersource> mattgyver, google it
[00:46] <lstarnes> Funnyface2: use qemu-system-arm
[00:46] <mattgyver> Powersource, ill goggle it ;)
[00:47] <Funnyface2> I think I figured it out :P
[00:47] <Helsinkiii> can someone look at their Alsa mixer settings and tell me what they have because my mic isnt working
[00:49] <ugarit> sudo dpkg --configure -a is extremly slow.  anyone know why?
[00:50] <ugarit> I think this source is the problem ftp://ftp.3drealms.com/share/1rott13.zip
[00:50] <aguyvis> hi
[00:51] <ZykoticK9> Helsinkiii, perhaps this can help you http://embraceubuntu.com/2005/12/05/fixing-the-errant-microphone/
[00:52] <server1> any update about ubuntu 9.10
[00:52] <Pici> server1, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[00:52] <Moa> Yes, it's been cancelled. Canonical was acquired by Microsoft 2 hours ago.
[00:52] <ubuntu__> help ive got no sound
[00:54] <Funnyface2> or even worse, by apple
[00:54] <Moa> Why worse?
[00:54] <Frogbarf> what are the main differences between unbuntu and suse?
[00:55] <SpiceMan> ubuntu has 1 vowel, suse 2
[00:55] <Frogbarf> I am thinking of possibly switching, what problems can I expect?
[00:55] <schwinn434> help i,ve got no sound , as-well
[00:55] <Funnyface2> I just dislike apple more than microsoft, don't ask me why
[00:55] <Frogbarf> stumbling blocks
[00:55] <Moa> I'm not hugely fond of either, but at least Apple makes an attempt at a usable UI once in a while.
[00:55] <Pici> !offtopic
[00:55] <spikebike> ubuntu mirrors will be busier for the next few days
[00:56] <Frogbarf> would I have to relearn a lot of stuff?
[00:57] <Funnyface2> schwinn: is your computer some branded one?
[00:57] <Billiard> Frogbarf: some config files may be in different places
[00:57] <schwinn434> seriously, I have no sound Ubuntu 8.10
[00:57] <trism> Frogbarf: probably need to get used to the different package manager, but otherwise...although I haven't used suse in a long time
[00:57] <crypto_> schwinn434 faced the same problem
[00:57] <blaz_>  hi! How to set up autologin to console? I used mingetty option in the past but there is no /etc/inittab anymore in  Karmic
[00:57] <schwinn434> yes hp pavilion dv6000
[00:58] <crypto_> we got the same notebooks too
[00:58] <Frogbarf> How is ubuntu with keeping current with packages? I get annoyed that some suse packages are not updated to the current version for a very long time. Octave is my current headache
[00:58] <schwinn434> really crypto
[00:58] <Frogbarf> very long time can be years
[00:59] <Funnyface2> schwinn: if you plug in some headphones, can you hear sound then?
[00:59] <schwinn434> no Funnyface2
[00:59] <trism> blaz_: not exactly pretty but: http://blogs.koolwal.net/2009/03/15/howto-autologin-into-your-linux-system-without-xdm-gdm-kdm-etc/
[00:59] <schwinn434> vista has sound
[00:59] <ugarit> what is this ftp://ftp.3drealms.com/share/1rott13.zip when I do: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:00] <Powersource> anyone? please, i really need help with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8184183
[01:00] <ZykoticK9> ugarit, rott = rise of the triades (i think)
[01:00] <schwinn434> Ive been using ubuntu for monthsm lost sound last night
[01:00] <agus> hi
[01:01] <ugarit> schwinn434 turn up the volume
[01:01] <balla> how many hours until release?
[01:01] <Pici> balla, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[01:01] <tomasz> potrzebuje
[01:01] <tomasz> pomocy
[01:01] <tomasz> jestem totalnie zielony
[01:01] <ugarit> where is conanical located?
[01:01] <agus> I failed using oracle instantclient, anyone can help me please?
[01:01] <schwinn434> not the problem ugarit
[01:01] <Pici> !pl | tomasz
[01:02] <Bruc> hey 9.10 out yet
[01:02] <blaz_> thanks trism!
[01:02] <schwinn434> having boot problems also
[01:02] <dust> i cant seem to get alsa working with soptify+wine
[01:02] <blaz_> you're totally green
[01:02] <dust> i hear lost of noice and after 3 seconds it stops
[01:03] <blaz_> tomasz: you're totally green
[01:04] <ugarit> how do i tell sudo dpkg --configure -a to skip  ftp://ftp.3drealms.com/share/1rott13.zip ?
[01:04] <Bruc> whens 9.10 out
[01:04] <Kamilion> within the next ~2 hours.
[01:04] <Kamilion> 32
[01:04] <Kamilion> not two
[01:04] <Kamilion> thirty two
[01:04] <Kamilion> barring any major discord
[01:05] <Flannel> !isitout | Bruc
[01:05] <kaybee> thanks guys
[01:05] <Funnyface2> will it be possible to upgrade over network, or does it need a full reinstall?
[01:06] <Bruc> is everyone invited to the party?
[01:06] <Pici> Sure!
[01:06] <DeoFavente1> ok the new ubutnu is coming out and I need help (with upgrading)
[01:06] <mattgyver> Funnyface2, you can upgrade over the network but grub2 and ext4 wont be setup
[01:06] <Flynsarmy> It's a little buggy (karmic). the pidgin message received found feels squished so it plays really fast
[01:06] <Kamilion> Funnyface2: Personally, my opinion is that a clean install would be a better option. You can keep your /home/ and use synaptic to dump a package list from your old machine.
[01:06] <DeoFavente1> you need to upgrade all your software to the newest version before you upgrade ubutnu right?
[01:06] <lstarnes> DeoFavente1: that's a good idea
[01:06] <blaz_> If I installed 9.10 beta, will I get 9.10 just with 'aptitude dist-upgrade'??
[01:07] <DeoFavente1> do I have to?
[01:07] <jrib> DeoFavente1: update-manager will do that for you
[01:07] <trism> blaz_: yes
[01:07] <DeoFavente1> but I got a problem then
[01:07] <DeoFavente1> my mysql doesn't upgrade
[01:07] <Kamilion> It is a good idea to do so to pick up any fixes to update-manager before upgrading, yes.
[01:07] <blaz_> cool:)
[01:07] <nobody_> anyone ?
[01:07] <DeoFavente1> the problem has to do with messed up permissions
[01:07] <jrib> !enter | DeoFavente1
[01:07] <Kamilion> DeoFavente1: check out the docs for the 5.0 -> 5.1 transition.
[01:07] <DeoFavente1> ok
[01:08] <schwinn434> my ubuntu 8.10 install seems to get buggier and buggier
[01:08] <DeoFavente1> is there a way to upgrade ignoring mysql?
[01:08] <schwinn434> I really like linux, but the os does seem unstable day in day out
[01:08] <Bruc> if i installl 9.04 now is there a problem upgrading to 9.10
[01:08] <noumaios> update-manager -d
[01:08] <noumaios> yes!
[01:08] <Kamilion> DeoFavente1: yes, you can keep the old 5.0 packages, but the 5.1 client will be installed, IIRC
[01:08] <Flynsarmy> also in 9.10 you can't do a simple amixer set 'Master' 95% unmute either. you have to do 3 lines worth of unmute and even then it doesnt set the volume to 95%. its pretty retarded
[01:08] <Funnyface2> I see, well I will just keep 9.04 until something gets messed up, then install 9.10 when I have to wipe the HD anyway :>
[01:09] <Kamilion> Funnyface2: I'd say do the dist upgrade in another ~2 weeks after the dust settles and the repos arn't so crowded
[01:09] <DeoFavente1> ok thanks for the help
[01:09] <noumaios> i think 'd' for distro...
[01:09] <Kamilion> DeoFavente1: be sure to check out the mysql 5.0 -> 5.1 docs though.
[01:10] <schwinn434> I
[01:10] <blaz_> I'm really impressed with 9.10, for the first time I get smooth webpage scrolling with composition effects enabled.. after all these years...
[01:10] <schwinn434> does clonezilla work will?
[01:10] <Kamilion> DeoFavente1:  I'm looking for the link now.
[01:10] <schwinn434> does Clonezilla work well?
[01:10] <nobody_> someone? spotify with wine, sound scrambled
[01:11] <nobody_> alsa (Sb audigy 2
[01:13] <timdot> anyone know if Karmic will include Firefox 3.5 or still just 3?
[01:13] <lstarnes> timdot: 35
[01:13] <ZykoticK9> timdot, 3.5
[01:13] <lstarnes> *3.5
[01:13] <timdot> ah, cool, thanks :)
[01:14] <DeoFavente1> Kamilion: well ill fix it later, but -d will ignore the upgrade and still upgrade other stuff, right?
[01:14] <Ashfire908> Hi, I'm having issues with my computer and a External Hard Drive (Maxtor OneTouch III). When I plug in the drive (via firewire), it does not appear as a drive (or at all). It works fine on a HP elitebook running Ubuntu. (though the laptop runs x86 while this system is running 64-bit Ubuntu).
[01:14] <Wargasm> hey guys, is there any way to change the startup sound in 9.10?
[01:14] <BlacKnight> hey, is there any text editor as fast as notepad in linux? i use gedit but notepad opens like in 0.5 secs gedit more than that :p
[01:14] <spikebike> vi
[01:15] <blaz_> BlackKnight: nedit
[01:15] <EntityReborn> BlackFate, lol!
[01:15] <Kamilion> DeoFavente1: Won't matter, the button to upgrade will be staring you in the face every time you open up update-manager after tomorrow. Taunting you. Begging you to push it. But you must resist!
[01:15] <BlacKnight> blaz_: thanks let me try
[01:16] <DeoFavente1> Kamilion: Good. I really messed up the permissions with some files important to mysql and now everytime it tried to update it fails horribly
[01:16] <Ashfire908> Also, what time does 9.10 release? (rough time, like "between 4-6 pm" is fine)
[01:16] <lstarnes> Ashfire908: most likily within the next 24 hours
[01:16] <Pici> Ashfire908, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[01:17] <lstarnes> *likely
[01:17] <IdleOne> Ashfire908: you can join the trolls and kids in #ubuntu-release-party
[01:17] <Pici> IdleOne: and devs, and operators...
[01:17] <Wargasm> is there any way to change the sounds in 9.10?
[01:17] <Wargasm> they changed the sound dialog box
[01:17] <Ashfire908> lstarnes, Well, i know that.
[01:17] <Kamilion> DeoFavente1: do a mysqldump and full backup anyway.
[01:17] <IdleOne> Pici: yes and the devs and operators. Did not mean to offend you good people who work hard for us :)
[01:17] <Ashfire908> Pici, IdleOne: Ok.
[01:18] <Pici> Wargasm: 9.10 is not released so it is not supported here yet, please use #ubuntu+1 for support in the meantime.
[01:18] <BlacKnight> nice, nedit is what i was looking for Thanks! blaz
[01:18] <DeoFavente1> Kamilion: But the distro upgrade won't be die because of an error in upgrading?
[01:19] <DeoFavente1> leave out the word "be"
[01:19] <diss> please someone tell me how to reinstall grub in ubuntu 9.04 because a windows xp installation wiped it out
[01:19] <IdleOne> !fixgrub | diss
[01:19] <Kamilion> DeoFavente1: ... I... Don't know.
[01:20] <ctmjr> so what's the over/under on how many times is it out yet is asked
[01:20] <IdleOne> ctmjr: +3 weeks now :)
[01:20] <Kamilion> DeoFavente1: But at least with a mysqldump you can remove the package, clean up your mess, and then restore the DB.
[01:21] <DeoFavente1> Kamilion: I was just thinking of removing mysql from that one file that keeps track of the versions and upgrade status - even though that soounds really noobish
[01:21] <amjad> السلام عليكم
[01:21] <Jack_d_Lantern> !arabic
[01:22] <DeoFavente1> Kamilion: /var/lib/dpkg/status I think it is
[01:22] <DeoFavente1> Kamilion and then I can re-add it after distro upgrade
[01:22] <Ashfire908> Uh, ok, my drive started working after various patterns of unplugging/plugging in the firewire, turning the drive on and off, and removing and inserting the ohci1394 and ieee1934 kernel modules...
[01:23] <ro_> hello
[01:23] <ro_> i need help
[01:23] <stinky> hi ro_
[01:23] <ro_> can somebody help
[01:23] <ro_> hi stinky
[01:23] <ro_> how are you
[01:23] <FloodBot2> ro_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:23] <stinky> :D fine
[01:23] <_JacK_> how to list files whose size is greater than 1M?
[01:23] <blaz_> hi ro_
[01:23] <DeoFavente1> everytime you ask for help a kitten dies - wait that's in another channel nvm
[01:23] <ro_> hello blaz how it goes
[01:24] <DeoFavente1> what do you need help with
[01:24] <Jack_d_Lantern> !ot
[01:24] <ro_> i just installes ubunu 9 on a hp tx2
[01:24] <jasmuz> Hello all.. im using Karmic, is it true that the Gnome bar only uses Bmp files instead of png?
[01:24] <ro_> but i can get the audio frivers work
[01:24] <ro_> drivers
[01:25] <losher> _JacK_: something like: find . -type f -size +1M
[01:25] <jasmuz> Hello all.. im using Karmic, is it true that the Gnome bar only uses Bmp files instead of png??
[01:25] <Pici> jasmuz: 9.10 is not released so it is not supported here yet, please use #ubuntu+1 for support in the meantime.
[01:25] <blaz_> what drivers ro_?
[01:25] <ro_> audio drivers
[01:25] <ro_> blaz
[01:25] <Ashfire908> ro_, 9.04?
[01:26] <ro_> yes
[01:26] <rance> hello
[01:26] <ro_> ashfire
[01:26] <jasmuz> Pici, thanks
[01:26] <Kamilion> DeoFavente1: phpmyadmin makes it easy to snapshot mysql. Then use apt-file against the mysql packages, and go check their perms.
[01:26] <ubunturocks> Hello guys
[01:26] <rance> hello?? what is this lol
[01:26] <mikeru> in which timezone is karmic released tomorrow=?
[01:26] <rance> this is irc right
[01:26] <Ashfire908> Oh.
[01:26] <ro_> ashfire988
[01:26] <ubunturocks> I need one clarification
[01:26] <rance> im new here
[01:26] <Ashfire908> Great.
[01:26] <_JacK_> losher: thank you
[01:26] <Pici> mikeru, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[01:26] <mikeru> : O
[01:26] <blaz_> ro_: can you elaborate?
[01:26] <mikeru> i love the RC totally
[01:27] <ubunturocks> If I upgrade from ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10 whether my existing dta will be erased
[01:27] <ubunturocks> ?
[01:27] <spikebike> ¿uʍop ǝpısdn ǝdʎʇ oɥʍ ǝldoǝd ɹoɟ lǝuuɐɥɔ nʇunqn uɐ ǝɹǝɥʇ sı
[01:27] <SpiceMan> ubunturocks: no
[01:27] <rance> hello can somebody help me
[01:27] <DeoFavente1> Kamilion: "Then use apt-file against the mysql packages, and go check their perms." I'm sorry what's apt-file and how do I use it?
[01:27] <ro_> what fo you mean blaz ? this is my first time on ubuntu
[01:27] <blaz_> ro_: what is the problem, you try to install something manually?]
[01:27] <mikeru> ubunturocks: maybe, shouldn't
[01:27] <ubunturocks> What about applications?
[01:27] <SpiceMan> spikebike: doubt so
[01:27] <ubunturocks> I installed
[01:27] <Ashfire908> ubunturocks: What would be the point of a "upgrade" then? :)
[01:27] <DeoFavente1> Kamilion: Sounds important
[01:27] <ro_> blaz i installed ubunut on it , but the sound didnt work
[01:27] <mgmuscari> has anybody here been experiencing dropped wifi connections when using wpa/wpa2 since the recent kernel update and/or maybe some recent update to module iwlagn?
[01:27] <ro_> even the video drivers
[01:27] <Kamilion> DeoFavente1: google apt-file and behold it's goodness. in short, apt-get install apt-file then apt-file package mysql-server
[01:28] <ubunturocks> OK. SO It would be better to back up the data on my home folder
[01:28] <ubunturocks> I am right?
[01:28] <Delvien> mgmuscari: yes, but i suspect its my schools wifi. as it only happens when i am at schhol
[01:28] <Kamilion> DeoFavente1: and apt-file should list all of the files that package cares about when it's installing/removing/upgrading.
[01:28] <gogeta> arg vbox hates me'
[01:29] <DeoFavente1> Kamilion: ok I think I can take it from here thanks for the help this mysql has really been frustrating me lately
[01:29] <ubunturocks> I want to know the way,
[01:29] <mikeru> ubunturocks: when I tried upgrading to the beta, it didn't finish and suddenly my screen went black, and then I couldn't boot even in recovery due to kernel panics. I had to install fresh from the beta CD. but since i used a different partition for /home i didn't lose data, and it was a beta, so no surprise it didn't work.
[01:29] <piersd> Anyone managed to get JavaFx working on Ubuntu 8.04?
[01:30] <mikeru> ubunturocks: if you have the time and you have important files, you might want to do so
[01:30] <ubunturocks> I See
[01:30] <ubunturocks> Thanks mikeru
[01:30] <DeoFavente1> mikeru: I have a separate partition for home, but hardly any of my important data is stored there - am I doing something wrong?
[01:30] <mikeru> DooFavente1: depends what you hold in your root partition
[01:31] <Roasted> I saw a picture of an Ubuntu desktop with a fine white text widget that offered a bunch of system information. What widget or setting would that be?
[01:31] <mgmuscari> !test
[01:31] <ubunturocks> can somebody tell how to convert python source code to deb package
[01:31] <DeoFavente1> mikeru: I have have lots of servers running with a bunch of data, should I have created another partition for my servers
[01:31] <mgmuscari> has anybody been experiencing dropped wifi connections using wpa/wpa2 for the last few days? since the recent kernel update or maybe some update to module iwlagn
[01:31] <losha> DeoFavente1: depends. Where *is* your important data if it's not in /home ?
[01:31] <Jack_d_Lantern> !packaging
[01:31] <blaz_> ro_: sorry I don't have alsa drivers anymore, can't guide you..
[01:31] <ro_> :O
[01:31] <DeoFavente1> mgmuscari: not this kernel update but another one long time ago
[01:31] <ro_> :(
[01:32] <ro_> ok
[01:32] <ubunturocks> http://code.google.com/p/vdown/
[01:32] <ro_> thank you
[01:32] <ubunturocks> for this I need to do this
[01:32] <mgmuscari> DeoFavente1: are you using an intel wifi link 5100 agn or 5300 agn?
[01:32] <mikeru> DooFavente1: it's not wrong, but it's better to have your stuff in your home, specially if you have a separate partition. If you only have the / partition with home as a folder, doesn't matter as much. But you should keep your stuff (like documents) in /home/(yourhomedir)
[01:32] <mgmuscari> !test
[01:32] <almoxarife> ubunturocks: checkinstall package works for me for creating source to deb
[01:33] <syntaxer> yo
[01:33] <mgmuscari> how do you restart a kernel module?
[01:33] <piersd> Hi All, anyone got JavaFX to work in Firefox on 9.04?
[01:33] <DeoFavente1> losha: Apache operates in /var/www my debian repository operates in /srv/something and I also have mysql and a fps game server which operates in /var/www/somefolder
[01:33] <ubunturocks> almoxarife> I think IT needs make file
[01:33] <Roasted> Guys - check the right picture from this thread. What widget is that that shows system information? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8033362&postcount=15
[01:34] <mikeru> DooFavente1: as for the server question, maybe. I used a separate partition because I use LVM and it's easier to resize the partitions, and many times I put a new distro on my root partition
[01:34] <almoxarife> ubunturocks: it has it
[01:34] <losha> mgmuscari: you can modunload and then modprobe a kernel module, *if* no-ones currently using it...
[01:34] <crypto__> port forwarding
[01:34] <crypto__> anyone
[01:34] <syntaxer> what is the benefit of using LVM over regular partions?
[01:34] <ubunturocks> I check and tell..
[01:35] <mgmuscari> losha: it's my wifi driver... so i guess disable networking and then modunload/modprobe it?
[01:35] <mgmuscari> something is causing it to die and drop the connection when using wpa/wpa2
[01:35] <DeoFavente1> losha: how hard do yoou think it would be for me to move my servers to a new partition? My LAMP server is the only one that would be a problem
[01:35] <hikenboot> is the xen kernel merged with the generic kernel in 9.1      2.6.31-14-generic?
[01:35] <losha> mgmuscari: harmless to try it...
[01:35] <ubunturocks> where it is ..? I could not find
[01:35] <mikeru> syntaxer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_Volume_Manager_%28Linux%29
[01:35] <crypto__> where is the ubuntu release party
[01:35] <crypto__> ?
[01:36] <crypto__> i lost the channel
[01:36] <Argos__> anyways is ubuntu good
[01:36] <Jeruvy> !isitout
[01:36] <Infomomo> release time :d
[01:36] <mikeru> syntaxer: I think  you can have a partition that uses 2 harddrives, but i'm not sure about that…
[01:36] <mikeru> syntaxer: # Resize volume groups online by absorbing new physical volumes (PV) or ejecting existing ones.
[01:37] <losha> DeoFavente1: in theory, you can move them, and just leave a link behind. In practice, some apps are sensitive about running via links because it can be a security issue. You could just make backups of /var/www and /srv, or  maybe move them to their own partitions...
[01:37] <verizondroid> is it out yet?
[01:37] <lstarnes> verizondroid: no
[01:37] <mikeru> syntaxer: but it is a little difficult to set up lvm in ubuntu.
[01:37] <lstarnes> verizondroid: join #ubuntu-release-party
[01:37] <rance> ahh
[01:38] <verizondroid> thanks
[01:38] <syntaxer> yeah..this is my 3rd dstro I've installed
[01:38] <DeoFavente1> losha: ok thanks, ill have to try that someday but that's going to be after I distro upgrade
[01:38] <syntaxer> didn't use LVM this time
[01:38] <rance> i cant find a channel to join i join but then nobody talks
[01:38] <losha> DeoFavente1: backup, backup and backup...
[01:38] <Pici> rance: #ubuntu-release-party is hopping
[01:38] <DeoFavente1> wait I can't connect to release party
[01:39] <DeoFavente1> #ubuntu-release-party right?
[01:39] <losha> rance: are you looking for help on something? What?
[01:39] <lstarnes> DeoFavente1: yes
[01:39] <rance> yes i am
[01:39] <DeoFavente1> weird I'll try logging out then back in
[01:39] <rance> losha can i pm u
[01:40] <losha> rance: I don't think my client even supports pm. Why not ask here in the main channel?
[01:41] <rance> k well i program in python and c++ and i make programs but i want to learn how to make my bot output messages into a textbox or notepad etc.
[01:41] <losha> rance: I don't know the answer to that. Have you tried #python ?
[01:42] <rance> ill try that brb
[01:42] <DeoFavente1> I still can't connect to ubuntu party
[01:43] <mgmuscari> !test
[01:43] <CWinLx> when I create a user can I assign a certain disk quota?
[01:43] <InFy_> hai!
[01:43] <halfpint> i need some help, my mouse keeps freezing after about a minute after logging in, it only freezes on my logitech g5 mouse and my zenith mouse. I am using a fresh install of ubuntu 9.04
[01:43] <mgmuscari> is there some way i can see if update-manager has updated a particular kernel module recently?
[01:43] <Retinar> guys is canonical doing a midnight release of karmic koala
[01:43] <lstarnes> Retinar: there is no set time
[01:43] <InFy_> when is the release ?
[01:43] <kisuke> Retinar: in what time zone?
[01:43] <lstarnes> InFy_: there is no set time
[01:43] <ubunturocks> what is ubuntu security model
[01:44] <ubunturocks> can somebdoy explain
[01:44] <Retinar> ET
[01:44] <lstarnes> !security | ubunturocks
[01:44] <Retinar> Would I be able to upgrade to the final release if I got the dailybuild now?
[01:44] <losha> mgmuscari: a log of all package changes is kept in /var/log/dpkg.log
[01:44] <lstarnes> Retinar: most likely
[01:44] <ubunturocks> ubottu. We cannot login as root
[01:44] <ubunturocks> why friends
[01:44] <lstarnes> ubunturocks: exactly
[01:44] <InFy_> can i upgrade to the RC and then easily upgrade to full later on without update-manager -d? or is the -d required..
[01:44] <lstarnes> !root > ubunturocks
[01:45] <rance> well when i join any chat nobody talks like nobody is in there
[01:45] <lstarnes> rance: that is not uncommon
[01:45] <mgmuscari> hmmm no mention of iwlagn... it just started doing this a few days ago though :/
[01:45] <lstarnes> rance: most irc users don't talk unless they have something to talk about
[01:45] <trism> InFy_: you shouldn't need to do that, just apply all the normal updates and you should be fully at the final version
[01:45] <tjz> hey guys
[01:45] <tjz> ^_^
[01:45] <InFy_> great
[01:45] <spaztik> ok so this is entirely way OT, but anyone know of any software that will allow me to speak into the mic and it'll apply effects in real time, like echo or something?
[01:45] <InFy_> lets's get rollin' then
[01:45] <rance> o ok
[01:46] <kisuke> what time zone is the relase in? gmt?
[01:46] <InFy_> audacity?
[01:46] <InFy_> idk lol
[01:46] <Roasted> Guys - check the right picture from this thread. What widget is that that shows system information? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8033362&postcount=15
[01:46] <losha> rance: most channels are much quieter than this one, and operate differently i.e. more like a forum: you ask a question, and then much later (hours, days) someone may reply. Either keep your irc open or check if they have an archive...
[01:46] <gogeta> anyone use virtulbox
[01:46] <partypants> spaztik: i searched for the same recently, like a voice changer, no luck so far.
[01:46] <spaztik> InFy_, real time stuff
[01:46] <rance> o ok
[01:46] <spaztik> partypants, dayum
[01:46] <InFy_> idk lol
[01:46] <spaztik> gotta party this weekend and i wanna mc :S
[01:46] <gogeta> its pissing me off to ni end today
[01:46] <rance> soo anybody program in python cause i need some help :)
[01:47] <Flannel> rance: Try ##python
[01:47] <ubunturocks> lstarnes: Why cant I login as root
[01:47] <lstarnes> ubunturocks: read the message given to you by ubunturocks
[01:47] <Billiard> spaztik: maybe mplayer can apply effects to mic input and play it back to speakers
[01:47] <lstarnes> ubunturocks: er, by ubottu
[01:47] <trism> ubunturocks: by default, root has no password in ubuntu, so you can't log in
[01:47] <syntaxer> I know DJ software and multi track recording apps normally will have some real time plug ins
[01:47] <lstarnes> ubunturocks: the root account is disabled in ubuntu for security reasons
[01:47] <spaztik> fuck, i hate fscking 6tb of data
[01:47] <trism> ubunturocks: which is generally a good thing
[01:47] <spaztik> takes SOOOOO long
[01:47] <rance> i did flannel nobody has talked
[01:47] <lstarnes> ubunturocks: you can use sudo to run applications as root
[01:48] <InFy_> sudo passwd
[01:48] <bfallik> What's the right way to configure dual head so everything happens automatically?  I want to plug in an ext. VGA monitor and have X/Gnome auto configure it, and undo that when it's unplugged.  I'm running karmic now.
[01:48] <InFy_> then you can set the root pw
[01:48] <lstarnes> InFy_: do not recommend that
[01:48] <mikeru> ubunturocks: and it's a security flaw to login as root
[01:48] <spaztik> !root
[01:48] <ubunturocks> Hmm.. they why they have such account
[01:48] <InFy_> it's an open and free platform
[01:48] <lstarnes> ubunturocks: if it is absolutely necessary and you know what you are doing, you can emulate a root login using sudo -i
[01:48] <InFy_> he asks, i provied
[01:48] <InFy_> :\
[01:48] <mikeru> ubunturocks: or sudo -s
[01:48] <choronzon> I installed ubuntu about a week ago. do I have to do the same thing (download, burn, boot, install) to upgrade to the new version or is there some other way?
[01:48] <rance> thx flannel i joined but nobody is talkin
[01:48] <lstarnes> -i works better than -s
[01:48] <ubunturocks> what this command is for
[01:49] <spaztik> !upgrade | Chousuke
[01:49] <spaztik> errr...
[01:49] <lstarnes> ubunturocks: which one?
[01:49] <kisuke> !9.10
[01:49] <spaztik> !upgrade | choronzon
[01:49] <mikeru> lstarnes: what's the difference?
[01:49] <jainrici> hello everyone
[01:49] <choronzon> thanks
[01:49] <rance> hey :)
[01:49] <lstarnes> mikeru: -i simulates a login with root's environment
[01:49] <jainrici> Hi rance
[01:49] <ubunturocks> Hmm
[01:49] <mikeru> lstarnes: afaik, sudo -i changes to your home dir, while sudo -s keeps you at the same dir
[01:49] <lstarnes> mikeru: -s starts a shell with the user's environment without simulating a login
[01:49] <ubunturocks> ubottu is bot?
[01:49] <lstarnes> ubunturocks: yes
[01:49] <jainrici> how to do private chat
[01:49] <jainrici> ?
[01:49] <ubunturocks> Hmm..
[01:50] <lstarnes> jainrici: /query nickname
[01:50] <lstarnes> jainrici: or /msg nickname message
[01:50] <mikeru> lstarnes: umm, nevermind. It changes to /root
[01:50] <jainrici> thnx
[01:50] <mgmuscari> !ubottu | ubunturocks
[01:50] <lstarnes> jainrici: please try to keep support in this channel if it is possible
[01:50] <rance> jainrici do u program
[01:50] <blaz_> spaztik: puredata for example
[01:50] <mikeru> lstarnes: I prefer -s because it keeps you at the same dir
[01:51] <jainrici> I am new to IRC
[01:51] <jainrici> and Xchat
[01:51] <rance> me too i just started 5 mins ago
[01:51] <lstarnes> mikeru: -s handles the environment improperly
[01:51] <jainrici> great
[01:51] <rance> lol
[01:51] <thiebaude> is it out
[01:51] <lstarnes> thiebaude: no.
[01:51] <rance> ill pm u jain
[01:51] <mikeru> lstarnes: hmm…
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> jainrici:  the xchat homepage has some very good tutorial/docs
[01:51] <thiebaude> lol
[01:51] <spaztik> blaz_, sorry what?
[01:51] <Purpley> whats the party chan again?
[01:51] <thiebaude> oops im in the wrong channel
[01:51] <jainrici> pm??
[01:52] <jainrici> i didnt get u?
[01:52] <rance> private chat
[01:52] <blaz_> spaztik: for realtime audio
[01:52] <InFy_> #ubuntu-release-party
[01:52] <lstarnes> jainrici: private message
[01:52] <jainrici> oh
[01:52] <jainrici> great
[01:52] <Purpley> ty
[01:52] <rave> hi how can i upgrade from beta to 9.10
[01:52] <your_it> hey how do you have a 3 way conference chat
[01:52] <DeoFavente1> h00k: ok, im reading now
[01:52] <rance> u left click on my name and send private chat
[01:52] <enosis> hey guys, in my previous install i had a little app that controlled the system's audio, and when I was playing music and then started a video it would mute the music until the video was done and vice versa. anyone knows the name of this app? can't remember it to reinstall :x
[01:52] <lstarnes> rave: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:52] <spaztik> blaz_, wow that looks really complex
[01:52] <DeoFavente1> h00k: fix one is a no-go
[01:52] <spaztik> blaz_, i just wanna apply like an echo or slow my voice down so i can mc to some music
[01:53] <losha> your_it: just have 3 people join a channel which isn't in use (or doesn't exist. It will be created for you).
[01:53] <dro> so is 9.10 going to be releasted at 12:01am 10/29/09 or later in the day?
[01:53] <lstarnes> dro: there's no set time
[01:54] <your_it> but then people can find it on the channel list
[01:54] <Roasted> Guys - check the right picture from this thread. What widget is that that shows system information? http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8033362&postcount=15
[01:54] <dro> lstarnes: i hope it's right at 12:01am!
[01:54] <DeoFavente1> test me
[01:54] <lstarnes> dro: it isn't
[01:54] <InFy_> your_it, you can set it to private and/or secret
[01:54] <lstarnes> dro: I'm betting 3:27 am
[01:55] <dro> lstarnes: lolol
[01:55] <Kamilion> Roasted: I think that's conky
[01:55] <InFy_> top right click S and P
[01:55] <losha> your_it: you want to keep it private? I think you can do that, but i dunno how. Check on #freenode
[01:55] <your_it> ok
[01:56] <Billiard> spaztik: ive been googling, maybe this program called buzztard will do what you want, not sure if it will do stuff in realtime
[01:56] <bshark>  Hello, if my wireless card works in ubuntu full install, should it also work in a minimal install?... i want to do a minimal install and then add lxde and certain applications, but my wireless card needs to work to do that
[01:56] <jeffrey^^> Is the newest ubuntu out?
[01:56] <Denias> Is the newest ubuntu out?
[01:56] <co_music> Is the newest ubuntu out?
[01:56] <Bolis> Is the newest ubuntu out?
[01:56] <`mrWho> Is the newest ubuntu out?
[01:56] <DeoFavente1> h00: it worked thanks
[01:56] <DeoFavente1> h00k: it worked thanks
[01:56] <waca> Is the newest ubuntu out?
[01:56] <LjL> !ops
[01:57] <mgmuscari> !isitout | `mrWho | waca
[01:57] <Roasted> what time is 9.10 released?
[01:57] <Infomomo> dro: who knows
[01:57] <lstarnes> Roasted: there's no set time
[01:57] <Flannel> Roasted: Please see the /topic in #ubuntu-release-party
[01:57] <Roasted> lstarnes - just midnight?
[01:57] <Amaranth> Roasted: generally about 12 hours from now but it varies
[01:57] <Choky_Ariesta> when LjL takes a shit.
[01:57] <Roasted> flannel - or I could just ask here lol?
[01:57] <co_music> it is out?
[01:57] <naomi> it is out?
[01:57] <losha> bshark: it should, but you may need to explicitly add the drivers for it as they might not be installed automatically in a minimal install...
[01:57] <Roasted> amaranth - good to know, guess theres no reason to stay up late for it then.
[01:57] <jrib> co_music, naomi: stop
[01:57] <halfpint> my mouse freezes after about 2 minutes of booting up, multiple mouses using usb with 9.04, tried google but cant get it
[01:58] <Helsinkiii_> hi
[01:58] <agus> help me how to configure oracle instantclient
[01:58] <Helsinkiii_> can someone help me restore Alsamixer to it's default settings, it's urgent
[01:58] <mesula> What time will 9.10 be released?
[01:58] <illovae> at 2 o'clock
[01:58] <Flannel> Roasted: This channel is for Ubuntu support, not release announcements.  But to answer: Sometime before it's the 30th everywhere.
[01:58] <dro> mesula: no one knows, i already asked
[01:58] <spaztik> Billiard, hmm looks cool.. gotta get this usb mic workin first :S
[01:58] <Pici> mesula, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[01:58] <spaztik> i'mactually using my rockband mic
[01:59] <spaztik> bbias though, gotta take dog out
[01:59] <Roasted> flannel - I know, but this channel is too overactively anal about not going the slightest bit off topic here, even if it really is on topic, which results in me not really caring to go to another channel to ask 1 simple question when I can ask here with certainty somebody knows the answer/is wondering the same thing.
[02:00] <Flannel> Roasted: There is no answer.  And again, this channel is for support, not discussion of Ubuntu.
[02:00] <Roasted> I mean, I ask a samba question within ubuntu and I'm told to go to the samba channel. I ask about compiz and I'm told to do to the compiz channel. Anything I ask in here, I'm told to go to that channel, which makes me wonder why this channel exists.
[02:00] <Flannel> Roasted: There's 1500 people here, if we have discussions/conversations, no one gets support.
[02:00] <Roasted> flannel - well, as you've seen me exhibit, I don't really... care. :) So, like I said, I'll ask here, and I did, and it's done.
[02:00] <jrib> Roasted: usually if you ask a really specific channel and it seems like no one knows the answer you are pointed to a place where you are more likely to get help
[02:01]  * losha thinks: let's face it. This channel's going to be a mess for at least the next month
[02:01] <Roasted> jrib - I'm often told to go to channels and when I get there, there's 0 users there. lol?
[02:01] <jrib> s/channel/question
[02:01] <Flannel> Roasted: Someone probably directed you to the wrong channel then.  No one should send you somewhere with zero people on purpose.
[02:01] <DeoFavente1> Roasted: Either you didn't type the name in correctly or you went to the wrong server
[02:01] <thedude42> Roasted, you get what you pay for
[02:01] <jrib> Roasted: well that's just plain not true.  But I don't wish to discuss it anymore.  People are just trying to get you help
[02:01] <DeoFavente1> Roasted: did you put a # in front?
[02:02] <Roasted> deofavente1 - yup.
[02:02] <Flannel> thedude42: That's not an appropriate attitude.
[02:02] <Roasted> hey
[02:02] <Roasted> guys
[02:02] <Roasted> again
[02:02] <DeoFavente1> oh ok nvm then
[02:02] <FloodBot2> Roasted: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:02] <Roasted> I DONT CARE LOLOLOL
[02:02] <Pici> Anyway, people are still looking for support for current versions of Ubuntu, lets let them ask.
[02:02] <EntityReborn> #ubuntu-release-party is just nutz at the mo
[02:02] <tarepanda> how to let  oss sound support in kde4
[02:02] <ethana2> I have an X-25M 34nm SSD on the way
[02:02] <ethana2> they pulled the new TRIM firmware after I downloaded it
[02:03] <partypants> the newest ubuntu is always out.
[02:03] <agus> I cant' connect to instantclient if I use tnsnames.ora
[02:03] <losha> Roasted: pretty cavalier attitude for someone who admits that this is the only channel that ever talks to him...
[02:03] <partypants> ignore that
[02:03] <Pici> losha: let it go.
[02:03] <ethana2> can I ignore the problems as Windows problems
[02:03] <ethana2> ...or do I need to not upgrade?
[02:03] <losha> Pici: dropped...
[02:03] <Roasted> losha - I said this is the only channel that ever talks to me?
[02:03]  * EsmD is away: Nie ma mnie/Away
[02:03] <tarepanda> my oss driver can't work on kde4
[02:04] <tarepanda> my oss driver can't work on kde4
[02:04] <tarepanda> my oss driver can't work on kde4
[02:04] <tarepanda> my oss driver can't work on kde4
[02:04] <FloodBot2> tarepanda: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:04] <Pici> !repeat | tarepanda
[02:04] <DeoFavente1> yea really
[02:04] <Helsinkiii> can somebody tell me their AlsaMixer settings that work thanks
[02:05] <Firepuppy> Hi
[02:05] <Skaperen> hi
[02:05] <syntaxer> hi
[02:05] <DeoFavente1> ok, but I need help with something else again - My problem: I have a desktop with no built in nic (old computer) but with a wired nic card, and my laptop with built in wifi, and a wired/wireless router and a bunch more unimportant stuff. However - the desktop is a yottalightyears away from my router! How do I make my laptop a router for a one-computer network?
[02:05] <blaz_> tarepanda: you mean oss4 /
[02:05] <Roasted> So, I installed conky - and I have no clue where it's at. Anybody?
[02:05] <blaz_> tarepanda: you mean oss4 ?
[02:05] <tarepanda> yes
[02:05] <InFy_> is that laptop win or lin?
[02:06] <tarepanda> osstest is work normally
[02:06] <DeoFavente1> everything is linux in my house - but the unimportant stuff is Fedore
[02:06] <mesula> Roasted: alt+f2 conky
[02:06] <losha> !ics
[02:06] <blaz_> tarepanda: I have oss4, but no kde.. did you try on 4front-tech forums?
[02:06] <tarepanda> pidgin have sound
[02:06] <rafase282> hello
[02:06] <tarepanda> i try now
[02:06] <losha> DeoFavente1: see above re: InternetConnectionSharing
[02:07] <rafase282> how do I have which version of ubuntu I have installed, I want to know if I have i386 or AMD64
[02:07] <Roasted> mesula - Hm, it popped up - but I've seen users with it on their desktop and not necessarily in a window like this. Do you know how to customize this menu and put it there?
[02:07] <DeoFavente1> losha: Iv'e tried firestarter, but It only did the mini-network part - the desktop can't access the big network or the internet
[02:07] <mesula> Roasted: nano ~/.conky.config
[02:07] <DeoFavente1> losha: I have a bunch of servers on my laptop and the desktop can access those
[02:08] <tarepanda> amd64
[02:08] <losha> DeoFavente1: dunno, never had to do it myself. What about the other link?
[02:08] <mesula> Roasted: Or gedit ~/.conky.config
[02:08] <losha> rafase282: try: uname -a
[02:08] <Retinar> hey, unrelated to ubuntu, but generally how safe is it to take apart a CRT monitor?
[02:08] <mesula> Roasted: It's ~/.conkysomething
[02:08] <mesula> Roasted: Might just be ~/.conky
[02:09] <rafase282> thanks
[02:09] <BootzWolf> Retinar, i wouldnt
[02:09] <Roasted> mesula - I dont even have .conky
[02:09] <Mashandar> hello
[02:09] <mesula> Roasted: 'man conky' for answers
[02:09] <syrius> I can't find anything for volume normlize does ubuntu have a how to for this?
[02:09] <losha> Retinar: high voltages on undischarged capacitors, and of course, risk of CRT implosion...
[02:09] <DeoFavente1> losha: My latop does have two nics, btw
[02:09] <syrius> on ubuntu's site
[02:09] <syrius> I can't find it
[02:09] <Firepuppy> I was wondering if a problem in Ubuntu 9.10 has been fixed yet on the PowerPC version where a user account dosen't get created at the end of the installation of Karmic
[02:09] <MasterofPuppets> Hey guys, how many more hours 'til Karmic?
[02:09] <DeoFavente1> losha: Ok, ill try the optables
[02:09] <Pici> MasterofPuppets, Karmic will be released some time during the 29th, i.e: there is no exact time. You can await the announcement in #ubuntu-release-party
[02:09] <Retinar> I see. I'd better leave it alone then. Thanks.
[02:09] <DeoFavente1> losha: iptables
[02:09] <mesula> Roasted: You're probably using default settings, then.
[02:09] <MasterofPuppets> Pici: Awesome, thanks! Didn't know about that channel.
[02:09] <mesula> Roasted: 'man conky'
[02:10] <Roasted> mesula - reading the man page
[02:10] <Roasted> mesula - nothing yet though...
[02:10] <tarepanda> kubuntu 9.10  amd64
[02:10] <losha> DeoFavente1: yeah, Personally, I'd try making the router work...
[02:10] <DeoFavente1> losha: router on my computer?
[02:10] <Pici> Roasted: Also conky's website has some sample configs and more config file documentation.  http://conky.sourceforge.net/
[02:10] <mesula> Roasted: From my own experience, Conky can be difficult and tedious to configure.
[02:11] <losha> DeoFavente1: I thought you said you have a wired/wireless router? That's what they're for...
[02:11] <tarepanda> uaLinux BELIAL 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:05:01 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:11] <Firepuppy> Or, even if it hasen't been fixed, how do I create a new account on Ubuntu Server Karmic when there is no other account present?
[02:11] <mesula> Roasted: Unless you go with a sample config file.
[02:11] <Roasted> mesula - is conky the only widget thing available in ubuntu?
[02:11] <DeoFavente1> losha: Yea but my desktop is at the other end of my house and wiring would be hard
[02:11] <mesula> Roasted: No.
[02:11] <boblawblah> my ubuntu 9.04  wont pick up my intel pro/1000 mt nic
[02:11] <Roasted> mesula - is there a better option you know of out there?
[02:11] <DeoFavente1> losha: and wireless nic cards cost money
[02:11] <mesula> Roasted: No.
[02:12] <losha> DeoFavente1: well, so does your time...
[02:12] <BootzWolf> boblawblah,  is that a wireless nic in a laptop?
[02:12] <boblawblah> no no ethernet in a desktop
[02:12] <mikebl> hey guys.. could anyone please help me... i have installed ath5k for my atheros wifi card, on a laptop running jaunty... i can see the driver listed under lshw but can't get it to work.. also saw that wireless/cfg80211.ko and mac80211/mac80211.ko are both installed
[02:12] <Roasted> Is there a way by terminal to run a command and see what's currently installed from synaptic?
[02:12] <DeoFavente1> losha: true but I was hoping it would cost less. also if I got a wireless nic for my desktop it'd probably need drivers
[02:13] <losha> DeoFavente1: entirely up to you, Dude...
[02:13] <mesula> Roasted: Aptitude
[02:13] <boblawblah> bootz: everything i read says it should pick up automatically but it wont find it
[02:13] <DeoFavente1> losha: I'll try spending time first then
[02:13] <Roasted> mesula - beautiful. thx bro.
[02:13] <thedude42> DeoFavente1, you have 2 wires though, right?  one to the laptop from the connection, and one to the desktop from the laptop?
[02:14] <mesula> Roasted: No problem.
[02:14] <blaz_> Roasted: dpkg -l | grep '^ii'
[02:14] <losha> Firepuppy: tricky. Use the live cd to get root access and create accounts from there. There must be a link, lemme see
[02:14] <DeoFavente1> thedude42: router to latop is wireless - it's a long distance
[02:14] <soreau> DeoFavente1: What you would have to do is use masquerading. If your laptop already has the net, just plug in a crossover cable from laptop ethernet port to the desktop and do this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[02:15] <losha> Firepuppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[02:15] <DeoFavente1> soreau: one day I decided to make my own crossover cable - can't believe I'm actually going to use it
[02:15] <InFy_> set the wired gateway of the laptop to the IP of the wireless connection
[02:15] <sdsdsd> Guys, does Ubuntu goes out today?
[02:15] <soreau> DeoFavente1: Yea, I have one that's 25+' long I made here with some cat5 and a regular ethernet cable
[02:15] <abryant288> i have choppy audio with vlc. can anyone help?
[02:16] <thedude42> DeoFavente1, then all you need to do is enable ip forwarding in your kernel and set the laptop as the default gateway on the desktop
[02:16] <DeoFavente1> soreau: mines 6 feet but my desktop is only like 3 away
[02:16] <soreau> DeoFavente1: Fine. If you get stuck, I might be able to help you
[02:16] <Salvad> Hello.
[02:16] <DeoFavente1> thedude42: "enable ip forwarding in your kernel" that's the iptables stuff right?
[02:17] <Salvad> Is there some command for the console to put the computer in hibernation mode?
[02:17] <soreau> DeoFavente1: If both pc's are running ubuntu, all the stuff you need enabled in kernel is already there by default
[02:17] <thedude42> DeoFavente1, no, it's kernel setting stuff you do int he file system
[02:17] <d1b> morning -> when is 9.10 out :)
[02:17] <mikebl> hey guys.. could anyone please help me... i have installed ath5k for my atheros wifi card, on a laptop running jaunty... i can see the driver listed under lshw but can't get it to work.. also saw that wireless/cfg80211.ko and mac80211/mac80211.ko are both installed, anyway the card doesnt work
[02:17] <soreau> ! work | mik
[02:18] <soreau> mikebl: ^^
[02:18] <DeoFavente1> my laptop and my desktop are running ubuntu - desktop is running 8.04.1 newer ones won't work well on this old computer
[02:18] <poseidon> Me and my friends have a bullitin board.  They all made a thread about the Windows 7 release.  They don't come to my house usually so they don't get to see my ubuntu 9.10 desktop with compiz effects, etc.
[02:19] <poseidon> Anyone know of a good video which shows all this stuff so I can post it and show them?
[02:19] <m-p{3}> Does anybody here has a MSI Wind U210 ?
[02:19] <soreau> poseidon: youtube it
[02:19] <mikebl> hey guys.. could anyone please help me... i have installed ath5k for my atheros wifi card, on a laptop running jaunty... i can see the driver listed under lshw but can't get it to work.. also saw that wireless/cfg80211.ko and mac80211/mac80211.ko are both installed, when i try to connect i only have auto eth0, which is the ethernet card, that was automatically configured, i see no wireless nic
[02:19] <soreau> There are plenty of compiz vids on youtube
[02:19] <poseidon> soreau, I looked on youtube and the only decent quality stuff I could find was ~3 years old
[02:19] <soreau> mikebl: Does lspci show a wireless iface?
[02:19] <soreau> Errr
[02:19] <amane> hi I need help with Karmics grub2: in that the only option is memtest
[02:20] <soreau> mikebl: Does iwconfig show a wireless interface
[02:20] <soreau> poseidon: and?
[02:20]  * erpo waits impatiently.
[02:20] <amane> I'm stuck at the grub screen
[02:20] <soreau> !grub2
[02:20] <poseidon> I'd rather have something more up to date
[02:20] <soreau> poseidon: No one is stopping you from making your own video
[02:21] <poseidon> amane, #ubuntu+1
[02:21] <mikebl> soreau i have Ethernet controller: Atheros Comm Inc. Atheros AR5001X+ Wireless Network Adapter
[02:21] <Pupuser402-1> Somebody report a suicide in 3 minutes at 419 Denny Way, Seattle, WA. My name is Zeek Smith.
[02:21] <poseidon> soreau, when I record it it always lags out and doesn't look very well
[02:21] <soreau> mikebl: Pastebin the output of 'lsmod|grep ath' and 'iwconfig'
[02:21] <mikeru>    http://releases.ubuntu.com/.pool/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso
[02:21] <kevipapo1> hey, just got Ubuntu 9.04 up on my PC, and was wondering if someone could give me a low down on seamless integration of
[02:21] <soreau> oh great
[02:21] <kevipapo1> *windows apps in ubuntu, or simply windows
[02:21] <soreau> mikebl: Since you're running karmic, get help in #ubuntu+1
[02:22] <soreau> Ghad damm this channel and it's 1500 nick names
[02:22] <erpo> kevipapo1: There is no perfect solution. What windows apps?
[02:22] <ralphv> Hellow, maco you saw in #puppylinux how alienjeff talks to people threatening suicide
[02:22] <ctmjr> Pupuser402-1: that is not cool at all
[02:22] <mikebl> im running jaunty
[02:22] <poseidon> kevipapo1, have a look at wine.  Best thing offered
[02:22] <Crewsr3> what is the release party irc channel?
[02:22] <soreau> mikebl: I thought mikeru was you *ugh*
[02:22] <Flannel> Crewsr3: #ubuntu-release-party
[02:22] <maco> ralphv: OT for this channel, PM me
[02:22] <Crewsr3> Flannel, thank you
[02:23] <kevipapo1> thanks both of you. for starters, Steam (not for gaming, for the community, maybe for gaming later) and iTunes. I've heard of Wine, and I'm going to install it very soon
[02:23] <kevipapo1> ive heard of the types of things where you run Windows virtually and integrate it into your desktop
[02:23] <erpo> kevipapo1: I don't think iTunes works in wine. You could try virtualbox to emulate Windows.
[02:23] <BlacKnight> whats the best way to install grub2 and not die trying ?
[02:23] <erpo> kevipapo1: However, you will need to use the non-free version of virtualbox if you want USB support for your iPod.
[02:23] <kevipapo1> now i have Windows on another partition, could i simply boot up that partition into something like virtualbox or VMWare?
[02:24] <TBird> kevipapo1: vmware workstation is probably the slickest way to do that... i do the inverse with it though, run Ubuntu seamlessly inside Windows
[02:24] <insaneNproud> anybody know where i can find the old cursor theme from mandrake 7 for ubuntu?
[02:24] <mikebl> ok... i get ath_rate_sample 19968 1, ath_pci 99224 0, wlan 210544 4 wlan_scan_sta.ath_rate_sample, ath_pci, ath_hal 198864 3 ath_rate_sample,ath_pci
[02:24] <knoppies> kevipapo1, never heared of somebody running a real partition as a vmware drive. But you can try it.
[02:24] <gotsanity> Kevipapo1, virtualbox is what you are looking for but i will warn you it will not work very well with 3d apps and games due to the power requirements
[02:24] <TBird> kevipapo1: i wouldnt boot the partition, it wont work again after if you boot it natively
[02:24] <ethana2> erpo: nonFree VBox can handle iPods?
[02:24] <ethana2> is it free?
[02:24] <erpo> ethana2: Free vbox can't handle iPods.
[02:25] <ethana2> erpo: right, you said that..
[02:25] <erpo> ethana2: It's available at no cost for noncommercial use.
[02:25] <soreau> mikebl: So you're using madwifi, not ath5k. Also, pastebin is easier for us to help you. And:
[02:25] <mikebl> and with iwconfig the tonly wireless ext i get is ath0
[02:25] <brandonc503> hey all.. was looking for some application refferals for emarkting... looking for app that lets me build surveys and lets me form campaigns to send emails to people based on their answers to survey questions.. and reports recieved, bounces, opened, clicked thru..
[02:25] <knoppies> insaneNproud, have you looked on gnomelook.org?
[02:25] <ethana2> erpo: ..and that version can?
[02:25] <soreau> ! who | mikebl
[02:25] <m-p{3}> kevipapo1: It is possible, but I did it a while ago to boot the OS from another HDD.
[02:25] <insaneNproud> im basically looking for the hand cursor that has it pointing from a side view like mandrake 7 had
[02:25] <ethana2> erpo: I'm not a business, so..
[02:25] <thedude42> ethana2, it's more to the point that non-free VirtualBox is required to use USB
[02:25] <erpo> ethana2: I've never tried. I hate iTunes, personally, but the only obstacle I see is that free vbox doesn't do USB.
[02:25] <insaneNproud> knoppies, yea i tried there and couldnt find it
[02:25] <ethana2> thedude42: non-free?
[02:25] <soreau> mikebl: Ok, now does 'iwlist ath0 scan' show anything?
[02:25] <thedude42> ethana2, but the term 'non-free' is a misnomer
[02:25] <erpo> ethana2: Non-free vbox does support USB passthrough, so it OUGHT to work.
[02:25] <kevipapo1> thnks knoppies, i know there's stuff like that for apps to run windows boot camp partitions within windows no problem, gotsanity, last thing i wanna do is overload my computer to play games or run 3D apps in ubuntu :P, TBird, why wont it work afterwards?
[02:26] <ethana2> erpo, thedude42, okay, nonfree, I have to pay for it, nonFree, I can't get the source
[02:26] <kevipapo1> m-p{3} could you elaborate on that?
[02:26] <Helsinkiii> how can uninstall and reinstall alsa
[02:26] <ethana2> is there a nonFree but free version I can use to get USB support in iTunes?
[02:26] <mikebl> soreau I get no scan results
[02:26] <TBird> kevipapo1: activation, hardware changes, etc
[02:26] <thedude42> ethana2, when we refer to free and non-free, we're talking about free as in freedom... that is, you can download the version of VirtualBox from Sun's website that supports usb without paying any money
[02:26] <Lint> can you name me some media player with media library? except rhytmbox and amarok
[02:26] <TBird> kevipapo1: it would be like constantly swapping a windows hdd between two different PCs... it wont work well
[02:27] <soreau> mikebl: Ok, well it's broken then. Try this: sudo rmmod ath_pci && sudo modprobe ath5k && iwconfig
[02:27] <ethana2> thedude42: I say Free and nonFree for liberty, and free and nonfree for price
[02:27] <kevipapo1> TBird: true, wont work so well
[02:27] <ethana2> blasted English language.
[02:27] <insaneNproud> knoppies, i searched for mandrake cursor and classic mandrake cursor and pulled nothing
[02:27] <m-p{3}> kevipapo1: http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3774
[02:27] <SkyHigh> anyone know about monodevelop?? i just installed it and messed around with it and everything, but i dont know how to access the designer...
[02:28] <None94> internal microphone doesn't seem to work at all in Ubuntu 9.04. It is unmuted, and volume is all the way up. Would appreciate it if someone PM-ed me an answer
[02:28] <kevipapo1> someone mentioned running ubuntu seamlessly in Windows. the only real reason i need ubuntu is to create packages for the jailbreaking community on iPhones and iPod touches, and so i can experiment with the OS some more during this week long break
[02:28] <m-p{3}> kevipapo1: See my post (3rd one)
[02:28] <knoppies> insaneNproud, then I wouldnt know. sorry I cant help/.
[02:28] <vigo> !mono
[02:28] <vigo> whoops
[02:28] <kevipapo1> alright, thanks m-p{3}...lol, i just got what your name sounds like XD
[02:28] <None94> kevipapo1, I wonder if they meant installing Ubuntu via a wubi installation?
[02:28] <mMezquitale> a fresh install of hardy freezes after logging in, anyone ever experienced this?!?
[02:28] <m-p{3}> haha
[02:28] <None94> oh virtual box nevermind
[02:28] <ethana2> I'm still confused.
[02:28] <linxeh> mMezquitale: yes!
[02:28] <mikebl> soreau just did sudo rmmod ath_pci && sudo modprobe ath5k && iwconfig and i get no wireless ext but wlan0 with some info beginning with IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:""...
[02:29] <linxeh> mMezquitale: the motherboard was screwed
[02:29] <pengyg> hi
[02:29] <ethana2> can I, without paying money, sync an iPod with iTunes with Ubuntu as the host OS?
[02:29] <m-p{3}> kevipapo1: Gotta go, hope that helped
[02:29] <vigo> SkyHigh: I have read a little bit about that, but am not up to date on it.
[02:29] <spaztik> any ALSA gurus in here? trying to get my USB mic to play over my default soundcard which goes to my speakers
[02:29] <linxeh>  mMezquitale: YMMV
[02:29] <kevipapo1> alright, thanks m-p{3} bye
[02:29] <soreau> mikebl: Yea, now do 'iwlist wlan0 scan'
[02:29] <SkyHigh> alright, thanks anyways
[02:29] <kevipapo1> None94, no, he was talking about having ubuntu seamlessly in windows, unless he doesnt know what seamless means, i doubt that :P
[02:30] <mMezquitale> linxeh, I have windows installed on that machine and I uninstalled LinuxPC or whatever the name it was, it was working, dont think there's something wrong with my motherboard
[02:30] <m-p{3}> ethana2: Unless Apple make an iTunes client for Linux or if somebody manage to break the hash protection they introduced, you'll have to use a platform that iTunes support.
[02:30] <mikebl> soreau No scan results
[02:30] <None94> ah ;x
[02:30] <ethana2> m-p{3}: right, Windows, but as the host?
[02:30] <hikenboot> I previously asked this question but my scrollback lines were set to only 500..sorry for the repeat but i am wondering if the xen kernel is contained within 2.6.31-14-generic kernel...in other words is it merged with the generic kernel by default now?
[02:30] <bshark> you can virtual box, or wubi
[02:30] <ethana2> does iTunes do some screwy USB protocol side-stepping?
[02:30] <bshark> both are pretty fun
[02:30] <linxeh> mMezquitale: I didn't say there was something wrong with your motherboard. I said there was something wrong with mine, which caused the system to fail under load (Which happened when logging in)
[02:30] <soreau> mikebl: Ok, one more shot: sudo rmmod ath5k && sudo modprobe ath9k && iwlist wlano scan
[02:31] <tjz> do you know why my new install (9.04) do not have sound
[02:31] <soreau> mikebl: s/wlano/wlan0
[02:31] <TBird> kevipapo1: if you want to play games in windows then its best running that as your primary OS and run ubuntu inside it in vmware workstation.. if you do developing then workstation has some good features to help with that too, im told.
[02:31] <m-p{3}> ethana2:  You can use VirtualBox non-OSE to sync it within a Windows guest.
[02:31] <LogicalDash> tjz, one or more of your audio devices might be muted, or there might be a bad configuration file somewhere
[02:31] <ethana2> m-p{3}: and that costs no money, correct?
[02:31] <soreau> ! audio | tjz
[02:32] <kevipapo1> TBird: alright, so would you recommend VMWare as the best virtualization utility for me to use? cause i know there's lots out there
[02:32] <halfpint> how do i logout without using a mouse, since mine froze?
[02:32] <kevipapo1> from there i'll see how i can integrate it into windows seamlessly, no problem
[02:32] <TBird> kevipapo1: its the most mature.... you can download a 30 day demo for free
[02:32] <m-p{3}> ethana2: Yup, it's just that the USB code is currently proprietary, they don't charge any cost for it. It's just non following the OSE model.
[02:32] <LogicalDash> halfpint: if you happen to have dontzap disabled, you could use ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:32] <TBird> kevipapo1: Unity mode is awesome.
[02:32] <ethana2> m-p{3}: thank you very much
[02:32] <kevipapo1> TBird
[02:33] <halfpint> that doesnt seem to be working
[02:33] <kevipapo1> *TBird: alright, what does unity mode do?
[02:33] <ethana2> anyone else here have a 34nm Intel SSD?  I don't know whether to upgrade to their redacted firmware
[02:33] <mikebl> soreau when i enter iwlist wlan0 scan i get ERROR: Module ath5k does not exist in /proc/modules
[02:34] <kevipapo1> TBird: oh, from what i googled, it looks like thats the integration feature of vmware
[02:34] <TBird> kevipapo1: ubutu apps run side-by-side with windows apps, or vice versa... or you cna just run ubuntu ina window, or full screen.
[02:34] <soreau> mikebl: What is the output of 'lsmod|grep ath' now?
[02:35] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[02:35] <kevipapo1> TBird: great! i guess installing Ubuntu wasnt really worth it after all, seeing as i only need to do .deb packaging. alright thanks, ill remove the partition and set Ubuntu back up in VMWare. ive got a powerful computer so i'm not worried too much about the issue of virtualization in general
[02:35] <ShapeShifter499> how do I open port 22 for all ip's on my wifi router?
[02:35] <insaneNproud> are there any other sites that have cursor themes besides gnome look?
[02:36] <ShapeShifter499> I need to open port 22 for my ssh server
[02:36] <mikebl> soreau i now have ath9k,lbm_cw_mac80211,lbm_cw_cfg80211,led_class,ath_rate_sample,wlan,ath_hal... im sorry i cant paste the text im chatting using another computer...
[02:36] <soreau> ShapeShifter499: That's hardly a ubuntu question. It would be specific to your router, so consult your router manual, ask in #networking or google it
[02:36] <{Nathan}> I haven't used Ubuntu in 3 years. Where did my xorg.conf go? Ubuntu messed up my display and it doesn't show anything on boot.
[02:36] <LogicalDash> ShapeShifter499: typically you have to do that using your router's firmware.
[02:37] <soreau> mikebl: Does 'iwconfig' show wlan0?
[02:37] <ShapeShifter499> oh I did not know of a #networking channel
[02:37] <mikebl> soreau i just saw in the network icon that wireless networks just dissapeared, before it was showing it in gray.. i saw it, but couldnt click on it anyways
[02:37] <Kalculus> what does it mean when an object's permissions are   ---s--s--t  ?  what is the t?
[02:37] <hype> ipconfifconfig
[02:37] <ShapeShifter499> i'll go there
[02:37] <hype> ifconfig
[02:37] <mikebl> soreau iwconfig does not show wlan anymore
[02:37] <hype> soreau
[02:38] <breakmyfall> has the issues with ati graphics card solved in karmic ?
[02:38] <soreau> mikebl: Ok well I guess you need ath5k then. sudo rmmod ath9k && sudo modprobe ath5k
[02:38] <breakmyfall> when enabled effects
[02:38] <TBird> kevipapo1: yep, cool
[02:38] <hype> have anyone a downloadlink to karmic?
[02:38] <webbb82> is there anyway to get firefox 3.5 to not suck so bad
[02:38] <hype> i cant find one
[02:38] <trism> hype: it's not out yet
[02:38] <kevipapo1> TBird: alright thanks, im out then, peace
[02:38] <StrangeCharm> is it possible to change a dm-crypt volume that currently uses a passphrase to be mounted at boot time, so that it can be automaticcaly mounted using a keyfile?
[02:39] <kevipapo1> i might get back in here over in windows, maybe
[02:39] <TBird> kevipapo1: theres other virtualisation solutions for windows... virtualpc, virtualbox etc..
[02:39] <hype> iam from germany and on ubuntuusers.de stay, out now today xxD
[02:39] <Guest11603> i have a gx270 and need the integrated graphics card drivers for it, anyone know where to get it?
[02:39] <Lint> how can I add user to sudoers file
[02:39] <soreau> mikebl: But if iwconfig is showing wlan0 and 'iwlist wlan0 scan' shows no scan results, something is still wrong
[02:39] <kevipapo1> VMWare look pretty spiffy though
[02:39] <mikebl> soreau just did that and the wireless option came back, it's still in gray though.. can't click on it
[02:39] <kevipapo1> alright thanks, bye
[02:40] <usser> Guest11603, dell optiplex gx270 uses intel and works out of the box
[02:40] <Voss> usser, thats a much older intel chipset
[02:40] <mrb> guyz, does anyone knows when could Karmic be online to download today ?!!!
[02:40] <Voss> gx270 is 5 years old
[02:40] <Lint> how can I add user to sudoers file?
[02:40] <usser> Voss, gx270 is a chipset model or a pc model?
[02:41] <soreau> mikebl: You might have to compile your driver, madwifi (which provides ath_pci module and ath0 interface) or ath5k (which provides ath5k module and wlan0 iface)
[02:41] <Sapote> Lint: useradd
[02:41] <ZykoticK9> Lint, add the user to the "admin" group
[02:41] <mikebl> soreau how do i do that?
[02:41] <Voss> gx270 is a 5 year old dell model
[02:41] <soreau> mikebl: Sorry I can't help more; ask in #madwifi
[02:41] <usser> Voss, just recently i installed debian lenny on an gx240 and it worked great
[02:41] <Guest11603> yes it is, I need the gx270 drivers upgrade for ubuntu 8.10
[02:41] <lstarnes> Lint: try adding the user to the admin group (sudo gpasswd -a user admin)
[02:41] <Voss> gx240 is from 2002
[02:41] <Sapote> usser: debian work great
[02:41] <mikebl> soreau thank you a lot for your time :)
[02:42] <usser> Sapote, indeed. imaged 30 pcs so far with debian
[02:42] <Voss> Try getting ubuntu 9.10 running on the optiplex 760 and we will talk :-/
[02:42] <Guest11603> there are things I can't do with it until i get the upgraded repositories or whatever
[02:42] <usser> Voss, why thats what im running right now on my work pc :)
[02:42] <usser> Voss, which is accidently gx760
[02:42] <Voss> usser, dell stopped using gx
[02:42] <Lint> ZykoticK9, lstarnes: it doesn't work
[02:43] <slinger> Voss, whats wrong with 9.10 on the dell optiplex 760's?
[02:43] <ZykoticK9> Lint, did you log out / back in?
[02:43] <Lint> no
[02:43] <Voss> slinger, the intel video I think
[02:43] <maggot_brain> what's the best uk mirror for Ubuntu w.r.t to being up to date?
[02:43] <mblues> Hi there - quick question: if I remove Wine using package manager (I would like to update it) would that also delete everything on my virtual drive?
[02:43] <usser> Voss, optiplex 760, sorry
[02:43] <lstarnes> Lint: that user will need to log out
[02:43] <lstarnes> mblues: no
[02:44] <slinger> oh ok, I've had one running fine on 9.04 for a while now but it has an ATI card for graphics
[02:44] <usser> mblues, no
[02:44] <mblues> ?
[02:44] <ZykoticK9> mblues, just don't purge and it should be fine - check in .wine in your home folder
[02:44] <Guest11603> drivers needed for gx270 graphics ???
[02:44] <mblues> Nice..
[02:44] <Voss> mblues nah, I sometimes have to uninstall wine because updates installs new versions. I stick with 1.1.23
[02:44] <Sapote> mblues: rm $home/.wine/*
[02:44] <mblues> So to confirm, I would have to manually delete .wine/ to remove my virtual settings?  (I don't want to lose my apps ;))
[02:45] <ZykoticK9> mblues, Sapote's suggestion would remove your settings/programs!!!
[02:45] <mblues> Zyk, yep - I think I got it - as long as I don't nuke my wine directory I'm good.
[02:45] <hoonteke> is there any word on the exact time tomorrow that Ubuntu will be released?
[02:46] <partypants> 11:36:47AM EST
[02:46] <lstarnes> hoonteke: no
[02:46] <Sapote> :D
[02:46] <hoonteke> heh, thanks partypants.  :-)
[02:46] <hoonteke> lstarnes: any reason why no?
[02:46] <partypants> anytime
[02:46] <mikeru> when the mirrors finish downloading the iso images from the pool
[02:46] <lstarnes> hoonteke: the mirrors have to be set up
[02:46] <hoonteke> mikeru: ah, makes sense.
[02:46] <slinger> I'm guessing all the packages are already at the release version, why not just upgrade to the new version?
[02:47] <lstarnes> hoonteke: predicting how long it takes to set up mirrors isn't an exact science
[02:47] <Helsinkiii> i need someone to tell me their AlsaMixer setting asap
[02:47] <Guest11603> GX270 graphics drivers for ubuntu 8.10
[02:47] <Helsinkiii> my mic isnt working
[02:47] <hoonteke> lstarnes: yep, I hadn't thought about that mirrors bit.  makes sense.
[02:47] <Lint> no, it doesn't work even after relog.
[02:47] <lstarnes> Lint: which edition of ubuntu are you using?
[02:48] <lstarnes> hoonteke: there could also be critical bugs that need last-minute patching
[02:48] <volante> i accidently blew away /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf - owned by the module-init-tools package.  how can i recover the base version of that file?
[02:48] <Lint> jaunty
[02:48] <volante> cos my system is a fresh install of 9.10
[02:48] <ZykoticK9> Lint, when you ran "sudo gpasswd -a user admin" you did replace "user" with you username you wanted right?
[02:48] <partypants> How does one set a drive to automatically mount when ubuntu starts up?
[02:48] <hoonteke> lstarnes: depending on what you mean, yep, usually there are.
[02:48] <mikeru> If I'm  running karmic RC, updating is a dist updgrade or just newer packages for my system
[02:48] <ZykoticK9> partypants, fstab
[02:48] <mikeru> ?
[02:48] <Lint> sure I did, I am member of admin group
[02:48] <partypants> thanks
[02:48] <lstarnes> Lint: desktop or server?
[02:48] <Sapote> partypants: /etc/fstab
[02:49] <Lint> desktop
[02:49] <lstarnes> Lint: then adding to the admin group should work
[02:49] <hoonteke> lstarnes: if yo umean with the distro itself, I tend to wait about a month before I upgrade
[02:49] <ZykoticK9> Lint, in a terminal type "groups" does it list "admin"?
[02:49] <hoonteke> then it's about an hour to install and update all the bugs since found.
[02:49] <Lint> yes, like I said
[02:50] <partypants> hmm... fstab: command not found
[02:50] <partypants> oh
[02:50] <partypants> duh nvm
[02:50] <Sapote> partypants: fstab is not a command
[02:50] <partypants> mybad
[02:50] <ZykoticK9> partypants, fstab is a file /etc/fstab - you need to edit it with the drives you want to mount
[02:50] <partypants> thanks
[02:51] <volante> can anyone help?  where do i find the .deb file for module-init-tools for karmic
[02:51] <murcherson> hi folks where can i find the flash executable in my filesystem
[02:51] <zozozi> what's a really small ubuntu distro that will run on qemu?
[02:52] <Lint> ubuntu is bloated like hell
[02:52] <Helsinkiii> CAN SOMEBODY HELP ME FIX ALSAMIXER
[02:52] <usser> zozozi, install ubuntu server and go from there if you really want to go ubuntu
[02:52] <mysoogal> is there a nzb video streaming application for linux ?
[02:52] <{Nathan}> I ran the thing that tests all your hardware and when it did the video test, my screen went black.  I have an Intel card. How can I fix this?
[02:52] <volante> erm who knows about package management?  i accidently overwrote a config file from the module-init-tools package.. i want the standard version back..
[02:52] <zozozi> usser: which is smallest server install?
[02:53] <mysoogal> does linux have a usenet video streaming application ?
[02:53] <Lint> volante, reconfigure?
[02:53] <hype> grub2 is crap
[02:53] <volante> lint, what you mean?
[02:53] <usser> zozozi, server install is as small as it gets with ubuntu, you only get a command line interface, from which you can packages you want, like xserver, a window manager etc
[02:53] <zozozi> i really want a gui, dsl is ok but i'm having trouble getting it onto qemu
[02:53] <volante> lint, i think i just need to find the .deb package somewhere and extract the file from that
[02:53] <StrangeCharm> what's the apt command for a distro update?
[02:53] <mblues> thanks for the help guys, have a nice evening all!
[02:53] <zozozi> usser: k thanks, i'll try that
[02:53] <hype> update-manager -d
[02:53] <mysoogal> sudo apt-get isntall update
[02:53] <mysoogal> ops
[02:54] <maco> StrangeCharm: sudo apt-get update
[02:54] <Sapote> StrangeCharm: apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:54] <rance> UBUNTU FTW!
[02:54] <rance> lol i had to do that
[02:54] <maco> StrangeCharm: then to install them. sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:54] <mysoogal> anybody using Graboid ?
[02:54] <hype> update-manager -d
[02:54] <maco> StrangeCharm: the first one i said checks for updates
[02:54] <hype> ;)
[02:54] <StrangeCharm> thanks Sapote
[02:54] <jjrev> zozozi: check out TinyCore
[02:55] <mysoogal> does anybody know if ubuntu has a nzb video streaming application ?
[02:55] <hype> vlc
[02:55] <Helsinkiii> vlc
[02:56] <Dasda> vlc streams nzb's while they download?
[02:56] <Dasda> how?
[02:56] <Dasda> that is so cool
[02:56] <Lint> can someone show what /etc/sudoers should look like?
[02:56] <halfpint> my mouse freezes after a minute of logging in i have looked on the help forums i cant find anything that helps...
[02:56] <halfpint> its frozen now btw
[02:57] <mysoogal> halfpink i got that also on win pro sp3 !
[02:57] <Destructo> whoa
[02:57] <breakmyfall> any one using ati graphics
[02:57] <hype> # /etc/sudoers
[02:57] <hype> #
[02:57] <hype> # This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root.
[02:57] <hype> #
[02:57] <hype> # See the man page for details on how to write a sudoers file.
[02:57] <halfpint> no ubuntu 9.04
[02:57] <FloodBot2> hype: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:57] <mysoogal> iwhen playin games mouse freeez
[02:57] <mattgyver> Lint, http://pastebin.com/m71a7a28d
[02:57] <losha> mysoogal: this graboid? http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=792879
[02:58] <halfpint> my mouse freezes just by moving it around for a minute
[02:58] <ipauldev> Hi all, I am wondering if anyone has any suggestions for how to monitor apache bandwidth for virtualhosts, or if there's a supported snmp module available to enable in Ubuntu?
[02:58] <hoonteke> bandwidth ... not exactly, but have you seen apachetop?
[02:58] <mattgyver> Does anybody know how to remedy 'stuck keys' in VNC?
[02:58] <z987k> I just installed 9.10RC on a new box tonight and it doesn't have shit in the repositories.  All the repos are enabled in the sources section.  Is this just something with the RC?
[02:58] <ZykoticK9> Lint, the sudoers file is to add programs that won't require Admin passwords -- you don't add users too it (in a usual manner)
[02:59] <mysoogal> losha NO graboid is a free client to usenext you download things from there !
[02:59] <xiambax_> Can someone should me how to make a bootable usb stick on macosx?
[02:59] <losha> mattgyver: I don't think I've ever had a 'stuck key' in vnc. What exactly do you mean?
[02:59] <Dasda> so anyone know how to stream nzb's in ubuntu?
[02:59] <brova> hey guys. i have finally decided to make the switch from windows to ubuntu. i have a thinkpad and my hard drive is partitioned into 3 parts. im currently booting from USB. what i want to do is reformat my entire hard drive, or use shred command to erase all traces of vista. can anyone help me with the shred command to use ?
[02:59] <xiambax_> I used dd to do it from terminal but its not bootable
[02:59] <hype> Dasda
[02:59] <mattgyver> losha, when i connect in and start typing sometimes a button will just repeat as if someone were holding down the key ,the only way to fix it is to reboot the box ;x
[02:59] <Lint> ZykoticK9, I've just add admin group there and now sudo works!
[02:59] <hype> what is an nzb?
[02:59] <z987k> brova, all you need to do is format
[03:00] <ZykoticK9> Lint, why was the admin group not there?
[03:00] <dukz_> \q
[03:00] <Dasda> usenet file hype
[03:00] <brova> z987k: in linux or in vista ?
[03:00] <mysoogal> nzb is like a container of parts of a big file
[03:00] <need_help> hey need help! can someone help me with open ssh tunnel to vnc from windows to linux box ?! i open putty and i added to tunnels: 5900:localhost:5900 and connect to vnc! is that right! thx
[03:00] <Roasted> Samba Users - Do you keep your Samba password the same as your Ubuntu system password?
[03:00] <Knuthy> brova: the Ubuntu installer gives you the option to use all your harddrive for the install, it'll erase the Vista partition and format it
[03:00] <Lint> ZykoticK9, how the hell I can know?
[03:00] <mikeru> I'm sooo confused about usenet
[03:00] <z987k> uh, well linux I guess
[03:01] <mattgyver> need_help, that sounds right but your gonna VNC to localhost:5900
[03:01] <mikeru> the files are only stored on a particular usenet server, aren't they?
[03:01] <z987k> brova, just use the partition manager in linux to format the vista parition
[03:01] <brova> Knuthy: thank you, i will try that and see if i run into any problems :)
[03:01] <mysoogal> you will only get on usenet if you pay for it ! but i get it for free :D
[03:01] <losha> hype: a nzb is a file that lists a bunch of other files to be downloaded, usually from usenet. A sort of alternative to torrents
[03:01] <Knuthy> brova: you wont ;)
[03:01] <need_help> mattgyver yup
[03:01] <need_help> mattgyver actually i wanna to make sure of what i did if it's right :)
[03:01] <mattgyver> need_help, you may want to use <IP_ADDRESS> as opposed to local host though, it probably wont make a difference but .. thats what i do
[03:01] <scratchme> Is there a program like Virtual CD (a windows app) for Linux?  The specific feature I'm looking for is emulating a CD/DVD burner not just reader.
[03:01] <phaidonx> so I am trying to install a .deb file but it's complaining about a  dependency that cannot be satisfied libqt4-opengl ( >=4.5.1) From what I can tell that's only on Karmic but I am still on Jaunty, anyway to get that libqt4-opengl 4.51?
[03:01] <mysoogal> the speeds on usenet r pretty crazy ! i hate torrents so much now
[03:01] <brova> Knuthy: i know, i asked about shred because my college professor accidentally used it against his computer in class first week of college LOL
[03:02] <Helsinkiii> hello
[03:02] <brova> he didnt mean to hit enter haha
[03:02] <mzuverink> I have a amd 64 bit machine, is it still necessary to install 32 bit firefox for plugin support, or have the 64 bit stuff finally catch up?
[03:02] <Helsinkiii> can someone help me get my mic working
[03:02] <Helsinkiii> please
[03:02] <Lint> phaidonx, add the karmic repository manually
[03:02] <Knuthy> ^^
[03:02] <losha> mattgyver: I've never seen that failure mode. You're sure the physical keyboard isn't faulty?
[03:02] <mikeru> umm, does somebody know a good, free usenet server?
[03:02] <mysoogal> mikeru YES
[03:02] <need_help> mattgyver now i vnc to localhost:5900 and it work but that's a secure !right
[03:02] <mattgyver> losha, no i have had it happen on other machines too
[03:03] <mattgyver> need_help, yeah if your connecting localhost:port then it works
[03:03] <z987k> is there a reason 9.10RC has very little in the repositories?
[03:03] <mikeru> mysooga1: yes what ?
[03:03] <mattgyver> need_help, dont forget to remove port forwards you might have had previously though if you dont need them, thats easy to forget ;)
[03:03] <need_help> mattgyver the localhost:port where :port= the vnc listening port of linux box! ?
[03:03] <maco> z987k: what makes you think that? also #ubuntu+1
[03:04] <mattgyver> need_help, yes i guess i should have said localhost:tunnell port
[03:04] <phaidonx> Lint in /etc/apt/sources.list? which one? restricted, universe multiverse?
[03:04] <need_help> mattgyver aha thx alot :*
[03:04] <Lint> phaidonx, main, I believe
[03:04] <mattgyver> losha, its the damndest thing and a pain in the butt too.
[03:04] <phaidonx> Lint: won't that conflict with my current jaunty source?
[03:04] <Ozzah> Hi guys... I have a bash script, call it run.sh - I want to cd to every subfolder in the current directory and execute run.sh. I have a lot of subdirectories in ., what is the easiest way to do it? can I somehow use find -exec ?
[03:05] <phibxr> z987k, try to switch to the main repositories instead of your local repository. some of the local ones (the danish at least) have been a bit dodgy over the past few days.
[03:05] <Lint> phaidonx, it won't unless you'll try to upgrade
[03:05] <corden> in what time 9.10 wil be release?
[03:05] <losha> mattgyver: I can imagine. Whose client and server do you use?
[03:05] <z987k> maco, I installed it on a new box tonight and I go to install things and the most basic packages like sshd are missing
[03:05] <z987k> phibxr, thanks, I'll look into that
[03:05] <hype> where u from? @ all?
[03:05] <phaidonx> Lint: aha! Iam likely going to at some point... so when I need to upgrade just comment that out?
[03:05] <maco> z987k: did you hit the "reload" button in synaptic after installin?
[03:05] <Knuthy> Ozzah: yes, find is the solution
[03:05] <Lint> phaidonx, yes
[03:05] <z987k> maco, yeah they all time out
[03:06] <maco> z987k: the cd wont know whats available online, so you have to tell the machine to check the ......oh
[03:06] <maco> z987k: ok then it cant get the list of packages
[03:06] <maco> z987k: try another mirror
[03:06] <halfpint> .
[03:06] <mattgyver> losha, its x11vnc, which i might have this wrong but i believe it still is tightvnc
[03:06] <breakmyfall> Hello, I have intel core 2 duo - which computer arch do i have to download 32bit version or 64bit version
[03:06] <boblawblah> whats a cheap gigabit nic that ubuntu will auto detect?
[03:06] <hype> mirror? from ubu9.1?
[03:06] <hype> gibe me plz
[03:06] <phibxr> z987k, the closest I found was "openssh-server" when I searched for sshd though. but, still, go with the main repositories for now until things have settled down a bit. :)
[03:06] <maco> z987k: the one you're on is probably overloaded by everyone else trying to get it
[03:06] <mattgyver> losha, x11vnc just ensures that it loads as soon as X loads
[03:06] <Ozzah> Knuthy: I have never used find before... I tried just a few minutes ago, and I'm not sure how to get it do just do the 1st level of subfolders. It always returns all files in all subfolder
[03:06] <Roasted> Samba Users - Do you keep your Samba password the same as your Ubuntu system password?
[03:06] <z987k> ok, thanks guys
[03:07] <phaidonx> Lint: So I just added main and then sudo apt-get update and looked into synaptic and I don't see 4.5.1 :s
[03:07] <Knuthy> Ozzah: does your run.sh takes a directory as parameter?
[03:07] <mattgyver> Roasted, no, not typically for security reasons.
[03:07] <maco> phibxr: yeah openssh-server is the usual for that
[03:07] <hype> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.10/ <-- empty :(
[03:07] <ZykoticK9> breakmyfall, 32bit OR 64bit < your choice
[03:07] <{Nathan}> I ran the thing that tests all your hardware and when it did the video test, my screen went black.  I have an Intel card. How can I fix this?
[03:07] <maco> hype: not released yet!
[03:07] <maco> hype: join #ubuntu-release-party
[03:07] <mattgyver> Roasted, I find it best to make a specific user for the purpose of the share
[03:07] <Lint> phaidonx, did you reload package lists? you should see many updated packages
[03:07] <phibxr> maco, righty. not really into that stuff myself, but I guess he'll find what he's looking for at least then. :)
[03:07] <Ozzah> Knuthy: no, it is just going to do some stuff in batch, as though I were typing it in the console - except that it would take forever if I did it by hand.
[03:08] <breakmyfall> ZykoticK9: really, so i can download 64 bit karmic and it will work
[03:08] <MikeFromCanmore> !intel
[03:08] <MikeFromCanmore> ugh, that's old
[03:08] <Roasted> mattgyver - what if you just have your home directory set up to be shared through samba? So /home/matt gets shared to "Matt" on your Samba server?
[03:08] <maonx__>
[03:08] <Ozzah> Knuthy: So I guess I'll need to cd to each subfolder first, and then execute run.sh from within
[03:08] <mrc> nån som vet hur jag kan fixa in compiz på ubuntu 9.10
[03:08] <phaidonx> Lint: what do you mean by reload?
[03:08] <mrc> e newbiee
[03:08] <Knuthy> Ozzah: wait, you mean you have run.sh in each directory?
[03:08] <MikeFromCanmore> There is a new performance regression with recent updates on intel chipsets - anyone know about this already?
[03:08] <losha> mattgyver: Interesting: Sounds like this, no? http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=180868
[03:08] <ZykoticK9> breakmyfall, so long as it's "Core 2 DUO"
[03:08] <mattgyver> Roasted really its okay either way but some of the apps i use for whatever reason dont encrypt the password or show it, so for that reason i dont
[03:09] <Lint> phaidonx, press Reload button in Synaptic, for example
[03:09] <breakmyfall> yes it is :), thank you ZykoticK9
[03:09] <Lint> !se
[03:09] <mrc> oh, Im new on ubuntu 9.10, cant get compiz to work
[03:09] <mysoogal> anybody runnin 9.10 ? hows it goin for ACER laptops ?
[03:09] <phaidonx> aha! I hadn't hit the save button on sources.list :p
[03:09] <howdy> hey developers, great job on 9.10. no errors with the upgrade. :0)
[03:09] <mattgyver> Roasted, lets say i have multiple users who need to connect to that share, i dont want to give out my ubuntu password, so i create another login for that purpose only, make sense?
[03:10] <breakmyfall> compiz on ati graphics card doesn't work properly on mine
[03:10] <mattgyver> So, for 1 Share, i might have multiple login accounts
[03:10] <phaidonx> Lint: argh, still no 4.5.1 in synaptic :(
[03:10] <Knuthy> Ozzah: if you can explain it more clearly it'd be better, for example where's the "run.sh" file? and do you need to run it for each subdirectory?
[03:10] <Ozzah> Knuthy: no, but it's in . so I can just call ../run.sh
[03:10] <mrc> compiz not working on ubuntu 9.10 dell inspiron 9400
[03:10] <breakmyfall> i hope it will run better on karmic, it ran well on hardy tho
[03:10] <Roasted> mattgyver - what if the only reason you have your home directory shared out is so YOU (and only you) can access it from a laptop in the house?
[03:10] <Ozzah> Knuthy: yes, but it shouldn't matter if run.sh is in each sudirectory, cos I can call it using relative paths? (sorry, I'm not very good at this)
[03:11] <mattgyver> Roasted, I was just about to say if that is the case its perfectly okay to do that
[03:11] <Roasted> mattgyver - I wouldn't share out my entire home directory for anybody to use. But I have my samba account "jason" linked to /home/jason.
[03:11] <Roasted> mattgyver - the only thing was, I originally had a separate samba password than my jason ubuntu login password.
[03:11] <mattgyver> Roasted, Yeah i have just found over time thats a best practice of mine.  it also makes the administration of accounts a little smoother as things grow
[03:11] <Roasted> mattgyver - but If igured out somehow in windows credential manager I can "reset" my samba password from within windows.
[03:12] <Roasted> mattgyver - I was just curious if it was a common practice of other users to use different logins for samba/ubuntu. Not whether its the most secure, but what was the most common.
[03:12] <Knuthy> Ozzah: well, find . -type d -execdir ../run.sh \;
[03:12] <Lint> phaidonx, do you see upgradable package list? is that library there?
[03:12] <usser> Roasted, samba shares your profile by default, i believe.
[03:13] <mattgyver> Roasted, honestly the most common, probably just using the users password, most people dont go the extra mile at least not for home networking reasons
[03:13] <usser> Roasted, you can access it with \\sambaserver\username
[03:13] <Roasted> usser - oh does it? I have 4 samba users set up, and the other 3 users I have shared out to sepcific directories on a 2nd hard drive, so the only home directory in use is my own. Never knew that.
[03:13] <Knuthy> Ozzah: will execute run.sh from within each sub-directory (use absolute path for the run.sh)
[03:13] <gogeta> hi i cant get vbox to use a real partation
[03:13] <gogeta> it crashes
[03:14] <usser> Roasted, take a look at /etc/samba/smb.conf there's a default share called [Homes] setup there
[03:14] <hoonteke> gogeta: what are you virtualizing?
[03:14] <phaidonx> Lint: no it's not... nothing is upgradable either ..
[03:14] <Ozzah> Knuthy: yeah, this is what I had before... I just tried it, it's returning all subdirectories of all subdirectories... I only want it to run in 1 sub level of ., no sub-sub levels etc
[03:14] <gogeta> hoonteke: xp pro
[03:14] <Roasted> usser - Yeah, I did notice that, but I didnt use it before because of the fact I had the other 3 users sharing out on a different hard drive.
[03:14] <hoonteke> gogeta: make sure you've enabled ... hold on
[03:14] <boblawblah> can someone help me find a gigabit nic that will work with ubuntu? link to new egg gigabit nics tiny.cc/ZJ4TQ
[03:14] <Knuthy> Ozzah: use maxdepth
[03:14] <boknoy> hi guys how to disable changing wallpaper?
[03:14] <Knuthy> Ozzah: -maxdepth 1
[03:14] <mattgyver> losha, funny, a user even writes this issue only happens when VNC server is configured as a service, which is what ive done
[03:15] <Roasted> usser - I suppose using "homes" with samba is the way to go if you have a HUGE network though, with a lot of users. That way you only have 1 entry of homes and it auto-links each user to their cooresponding home directory.
[03:15] <Lint> phaidonx, strange, it worked for me some time ago... do you see a new repository in 'Software Sources'?
[03:15] <boknoy> nautilus btw
[03:15] <gogeta> hoonteke: i ran the vdmk to point to dev/sdb it said that was good but vbox will not use the hdd crashes when finding it
[03:15] <crafmatik> i wish there was a way to make xchat prettier.
[03:15] <mMezquitale> a fresh install of hardy freezes after I log in.  I login and I see the mouse pointer but nothing else happens, I'm seeing a blue screen and the machine is completely frozen
[03:15] <Roasted> usser - whereas I currently have, pam - /media/storage/pam, curt - /media/storage/curt, tyler - /media/storage/tyler, etc. But I only have 3 so its not a headache :P
[03:15] <Ozzah> Knuthy: and 1 last question about find... how do I match the directories with a regex? for example, I need to match something like run??-*
[03:15] <hoonteke> gogeta: In VBox, I think it's Settings->Motherboard->Enable IO APIC
[03:15] <ZykoticK9> gogeta, i'd recommend asking in #vbox instead of #ubuntu
[03:15] <losha> mattgyver: that would explain why I've never seen it in decades of vnc use...
[03:15] <Knuthy> Ozzah: -name , or -iname
[03:15] <hoonteke> gogeta: crashes, or just doesn't boot the VM?
[03:15] <mattgyver> losha, yeah, its really wierd and annoying.  Especially when your in the middle of something important
[03:15] <gogeta> vmcrash
[03:15] <usser> Roasted, well, with samba you usually set it up as a domain controller, and it stores all usernames and their homes on the samba servers
[03:16] <usser> *samba server
[03:16] <Ward012> hi
[03:16] <losha> mattgyver: looks like this bug's been there for a while. Can you work around it?
[03:16] <Roasted> usser - yeah. I've never set up samba as a domain controller. I just used samba so the windows boxes at home could network to my ubuntu box. Then I tossed in a pair of 250gb hard drives for those users to use as backup space. So I kinda used old HDDs + my pc + samba to be a NAS.
[03:16] <Ozzah> Knuthy: it keeps saying "find: paths must precede expression"
[03:16] <gogeta> hoonteke: xp installer gets to scanning hd then vbox has crashed
[03:17] <nasser> !release
[03:17] <gogeta> vm hulted
[03:17] <Knuthy> Ozzah: what did you type?
[03:17] <mattgyver> losha, well if restarting the box via ssh is a work around then yes :)
[03:17] <boknoy> any idea on how to disable changing the wallpaper of nautilus?
[03:17] <hoonteke> gogeta: if vbox is actually crashing, then I don't know.  If ti's just halting, and not booting XP further, then I think enabling IO APIC will fix the issue.
[03:17] <usser> Roasted, yea its perfectly reasonable for a small sized network, thats pretty much the setup i have here
[03:17] <Ozzah> Knuthy: I'm not running the executable yet, just testing the find... I ran: find . -name run??-* -type d -maxdepth 1
[03:17] <losha> mattgyver: well, I was thinking more not running it as a service (not sure what that means.  I added ppa.launchpad instead of the actual karmic main. Thanks!
[03:18] <Knuthy> yw
[03:19] <boknoy> no ideas on disabling wallpaper change with nautilus?
[03:19] <losha> mattgyver: what about a kludgy workaround, e.g. can you ssh in and start x11vncserver by hand
[03:19] <Knuthy> does anyone know when the 190.42 nvidia driver will be fully supported on the 9.10?
[03:19] <mattgyver> Yeah but, honestly its hit or miss with the sticky key
[03:19] <Ozzah> Is there any easy way to replace all instances of a string in a text file with another string from the command line?
[03:19] <phibxr> Knuthy, what do you mean with fully supported?
[03:19] <Knuthy> Ozzah: sed command
[03:19] <mattgyver> losha, id be more apt to figure out how to, i dont know if its possible, but disconnect the keyboard and reconnect it somehow
[03:20] <mattgyver> via ssh
[03:20] <Knuthy> phibxr: avaible in the package manager, and no black screen after install :)
[03:20] <phibxr> Knuthy, I grabbed it from Nvidias site, ran the installer and had it working out of the box after a fresh install. :)
[03:20] <boknoy> or at least disabling changing the background assigned by kdesktop/plasma/xfdesktop or feh?
[03:20] <usser> Ozzah, sed -e 's/hello/bye/g'
[03:20] <losha> mattgyver: the postings said something about a newer server version being fixed? Maybe you need to download and build the latest server and use it instead?
[03:20] <Knuthy> phibxr: I've a GT 230M , only supported from the 190.42 driver, not earlier drivers
[03:20] <Knuthy> and it's not working with it :/
[03:21] <lekremyelsew> Where is the file that contains Nvidia graphics card settings?
[03:21] <Ozzah> ls
[03:21] <mattgyver> losha, ill have to do that.  I also read that there is a key fix or soemthing, some option you can run it with
[03:21] <Ozzah> (sorry)
[03:21] <mattgyver> i might be able to do that too
[03:21] <[1]Void> just installed jaunty, having problems installing drivers for an atheros wifi card, ar242x chipset, tried many drivers including ath5k, madwifi, ndiswrapper all of which result in connectivity however VERY slow/timeouts.. wired is fullspeed 100mbit working with no problems. is there anything else i can do?
[03:21] <phibxr> Knuthy, I'm using the 190.42 drivers, but since it's a development version (I think?) I doubt it will be included in the official repositories for a while.
[03:21] <usser> Ozzah, ie cat filename | sed -e 's/<string>/<otherstring>/g'
[03:21] <Knuthy> oh :(
[03:21] <nick> i downloaded something that i have to compile. i have build-essential installed, but ./configure is not working ? what can be the problem?
[03:22] <uvacav> anyone know if are any custom themes for the new login page? (im assuming you cant use old gdm themes)
[03:22] <mattgyver> losha, well back to the grind, thanks for your suggestions man, your the man
[03:22] <mattgyver> (or woman)
[03:22] <ZykoticK9> nick, could you pastbin the output/error(s)?
[03:22] <Ward012> Could someone please help? Everytime I use xvideo output it screws up the display in nautilus. Now i can't use cheese or totem.
[03:22] <x4556> anyone know where the rhythm box database is stored. cant find it in .gnome
[03:22] <rance> can somebody private chat me if u know python
[03:22] <losha> mattgyver: :-)
[03:22] <nick> ZykoticK9: ./configure: No such file or directory
[03:23] <MorkBork> when does update-manager -d start giving you the final version of karmic?
[03:23] <Knuthy> usser: you should use directly the file name at the end of the sed, to replace inside the file
[03:23] <ZykoticK9> nick, perhaps it doesn't need a ./configure?  what program is it?
[03:23] <CPrgmSwR2> Does anyone here have a hp pravillion
[03:23] <gogeta> ah there sayin downgrade
[03:23] <gogeta> guess its a bug
[03:23] <nick> ZykoticK9: qtractor, and it does. compiles well on mac os x.
[03:24] <kisuke> does any one know how to get youtube to work on totem
[03:24] <usser> Knuthy, yea i know i just didnt want him to accidently screw something up in the file
[03:24] <Lad> I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 on my desktop on the second harddrive and im going to be dropping vista and going to ubuntu i was curious why when i boot it up after the install i can get wired internet but when i am in windows it works, Im not sure where to begin any help?
[03:24] <usser> Knuthy, so i suggested a dry run
[03:24] <Knuthy> ok :)
[03:24] <Knuthy> I see ^^, sry
[03:25] <CPrgmSwR2> Lad: are you saying there  your wireless internet is not working?
[03:25] <ZykoticK9> nick, did you cd into the directory first?  ./configure works for me -- until it errors out on "/lib/cpp fails sanity check"
[03:25] <Lad> CPrgmSwR2: sorry cant get wired internet
[03:25] <x4556> anyone know where the rhythm box database is stored. cant find it in .gnome
[03:25] <MorkBork> in ubuntu type lspci
[03:25] <MorkBork> see what kind of nic you have
[03:25] <Barridus> !ubuntuone
[03:26] <nick> ZykoticK9: i have the svn version. you probably need build-essential. thats why its giving that error for you
[03:26] <Ward012> kisuke: It might be possible if you use the xine version of totem and maybea plugin
[03:26] <hoonteke> x4556: look in ~/.local/, I think.
[03:27] <ZykoticK9> nick, you're right!  i don't have build-essential - shame on me, guess i haven't had to compile anything in a long time
[03:27] <x4556> hoonteke, yep, thanks
[03:27] <CPrgmSwR2> Lad: In other words you are not able to access the internet
[03:27] <Lad> CPrgmSwR2: correct :D
[03:27] <Dheyde> orry what the discussion about ?
[03:27] <Ward012> bye everyone
[03:27] <hafiz> hi
[03:27] <CPrgmSwR2> Lad: What computer do you have
[03:28] <[1]Void> any atheros driver experts out there?
[03:28] <luigi> just a question: tune2f work in EXT4 to?
[03:28] <usser> luigi, latest versions of it, starting from jaunty
[03:28] <Lad> CPrgmSwR2: nVidia 680i LT SLI, q6600, 2gb ram, 500gb sata, 8800gt
[03:28] <losha> luigi: tune2fs: apparently it does...
[03:29] <luigi> losha, i'm triyng to remove a lot of space of reserved block in a new HD but it seem doesn't work!
[03:29] <BlacKnight> btw, i have a ntfs drive with 86 bad sectors... if I formate it with linux, they will dissapear? at least the warning ?
[03:29] <CPrgmSwR2> Lad: can you boot up into linux and run lspci?
[03:30] <Lad> I can however i will lose connection here
[03:30] <ZykoticK9> nick, so now it's getting to Qt 4.1 required and i'm not installing KDE to continue testing.  I'd try the source download though if svn still isn't working for ya.  best of luck.
[03:30] <Lad> CPrgmSwR2: I can however i will lose connection here
[03:30] <mickster04> BlacKnight, from what i know bad sectors mean damaged hard drive no?
[03:30] <CPrgmSwR2> Lad: I am wanting to know what your ethernet controller is
[03:31] <BlacKnight> ya, those places in the harddrive that you cant use because they are damaged
[03:31] <losha> luigi: is that an ext4 feature?
[03:31] <BlacKnight> thanks to windows lol
[03:31] <Lad> CPrgmSwR2: if you can wait about 5 minutes i will return with the output, are there any other steps i should take at this time?
[03:31] <luigi> losha,  sudo tune2fs -m 1 /dev/sdd2 do you think this is the rigth sintax?
[03:31] <mickster04> BlacKnight, then i suggest yu replace it
[03:31] <mickster04> BlacKnight, then i suggest you replace it*
[03:31] <BlacKnight> i'm backing up files atm, but i wanted to know if it worth to format it
[03:31] <jeffrey17> Gentoooo
[03:31] <jeffrey17> :)
[03:31] <CPrgmSwR2> not until we figure out what kinda ethernet hardware you have
[03:32] <Lad> ok
[03:32] <luigi> losha, i hope!!! otherwise i had come back in ext3! :)
[03:32] <mickster04> BlackFate, seeing as the sectors are damaged it usually means the HDD's failing so theres little point
[03:32] <losha> luigi: the syntax looks right. Is there an error message?
[03:32] <mgmuscari1> is there some way that i can revert my system back to the state it was in a week ago?
[03:32] <mgmuscari1> roll back all the updates that have been pushed out since then
[03:32] <CPrgmSwR2> jeffrey17: are you a gentoo fan
[03:33] <BlacKnight> Blacknight* xD
[03:33] <jeffrey17> ;)
[03:33] <mgmuscari1> somebody broke iwlagn
[03:33] <luigi> losha, not at all.. nay message! but rescanning my device they have the same space reserved! 11GB in reserved space it's terrible!
[03:33] <BlacKnight> well, i been using that hdd since january with those bad sectors
[03:33] <mgmuscari1> and it got pushed out with 9.04 updates
[03:33] <BlacKnight> windows runs really slow, but under windows it works good
[03:33] <BlacKnight> under linux*
[03:33] <losha> luigi: well, 5% reserved is normal...
[03:33] <ABoba> will we be able to zsync the RC1 iso to full 9.10 at launch?
[03:33] <zozozi> oh wow a 12MB iso ... perfect
[03:33] <mickster04> BlacKnight, good point:P
[03:34] <mickster04> BlacKnight, well i wouldnt trust it with anything
[03:34] <x4556> is 9.10 released?
[03:34] <mickster04> !karmic
[03:34] <luigi> losha, i have just data in this HD... i wish use all the HD...
[03:34] <BlacKnight> wa, my linux drive is 40gb... the damaged drive is 500 gb!
[03:34] <CPrgmSwR2> I lost sound on karmic kolla
[03:35] <BlacKnight> i'll use it and risk all the new data kthx :p
[03:35] <losha> luigi: I understand. I don't know why it doesn't work. I've never used it myself...
[03:35] <luigi> losha, thx anyway!!
[03:36] <kn1000> how can i check a programs dependancies that arent preinstalled on ubuntu
[03:36] <luigi> usser, have you any idea about tune2f?
[03:36] <Flannel> kn1000: synaptic lists dependencies, apt-cache show package will show them too
[03:36] <usser> luigi, what about it?
[03:36] <Ozzah> I'm trying to use sed to replace the a string match in a file with another, but the replacement text is in a variable $f - it's not replacing with the contents of $f as a variable, but rather with $f itself... any ideas?
[03:36] <kn1000> Flannel: yeah, but that lists ALL deps, i only want the deps that arent preinstalled with ubuntu
[03:37] <webbb821> hey what is everyones favorite online note taking apps
[03:37] <Flannel> kn1000: weed out those that are installed (you can list what's installed by dpkg -l)
[03:37] <kn1000> i remember there was a site for it, that asked you what metapackage you had, and then compared the packages installed with that metapackage to the deps the program needed
[03:37] <rance> does anybody know python-twitter the api for python
[03:37] <losha> Ozzah: it depends on the kind of quotes you use (I'm not making this up!). What is your command line?
[03:37] <Flannel> kn1000: Or, another really easy way to do it is to simulate an install.
[03:37] <luigi> it seem doesnt work.. sudo tune2fs -m 1 /dev/sdd2, any error message, but rescanning my HD i have always 11 GB in reserved space!
[03:37] <kn1000> Flannel: i am not on ubuntu :(
[03:37] <usser> webbb821, ssh to my home server, and put the note in the text file
[03:37] <usser> webbb821, :)
[03:37] <Roasted> Question - How can you change the sudo timer? Say I want to set up an Ubuntu lab but I don't want sudo rights to stick around 10 minutes after I put the PW in to do something. How would I change that?
[03:38] <kn1000> Flannel: its for wicd, since i cant connect to the net without it,
[03:38] <Flannel> kn1000:  http://apt.alturl.com/
[03:38] <Ozzah> losha: sed -i 's/999.999/$f/g' $r-$f/OBSERVATION.DAT
[03:38] <Flannel> kn1000: Package list for what's installed by default is available as the .manifest file for your desktop isos
[03:38] <kn1000> Flannel: thanks! been looking for that site all night
[03:38] <usser> Roasted, dont give the users sudo rights at all
[03:39] <usser> Roasted, create another user and remove him from the admin group
[03:39] <losha> Ozzah: use double quotes to get $f substituted: sed -i "s/999.999/$f/g" $r-$f/OBSERVATION.DAT
[03:39] <Ozzah> losha: Thanks :)
[03:39] <corden> guys how many hours lift before the release of 9.10?
[03:39] <losha> Ozzah: try it before you thank me :-)
[03:40] <Ozzah> losha: I already did, and it works great :)
[03:40] <losha> Ozzah: cool..
[03:40] <ZykoticK9> corden, it's not a set time -- feel free to ask in #ubuntu-release-party
[03:41] <Viggleik> where to download Ubuntu 9.10?  I need link :D <3
[03:41] <mgmuscari1> omg people...
[03:41] <ZykoticK9> corden, be sure to ask what time it comes "out" ;)
[03:41] <comp_> What's a good netbook?
[03:41] <comp_> I'm looking to buy a netbook
[03:42] <mgmuscari1> !isitout | Viggleik
[03:42] <corden> ZykoticK9, i believe that the release adte was based on uk not in us right?
[03:42] <losha> Roasted: check out -k and -K for sudo
[03:42] <corden> since it only 28 in us now
[03:43] <ZykoticK9> corden, it's isn't an established time - so it doesn't matter what time zone your in -- they just say the 29th
[03:43] <losha> ZykoticK9: whether it's ready or not...
[03:43] <sun`> it's status is 'coming soon'.
[03:43] <gogeta> lol
[03:43] <corden> ZykoticK9, oh boy :) cause it's 29 here in philippines :D
[03:43] <gogeta> you can cheat the system
[03:43] <gogeta> get beta upgrade
[03:43] <gogeta> lol
[03:44] <Viggleik> lol
[03:44] <crypto__> any teracopy alternative for ubuntu
[03:44] <crypto__> anyone??
[03:44] <crypto__> It would really be a lot of help if i can get a teracopy alternative for ubuntu
[03:44] <Roasted> usser - I'm just thinking out loud here with that idea. What if I'm in a huge network environment where users log in with domain accounts from openLDAP or whatever. So there's not any local accounts, just domain accounts taht can access the machine. How would I remove them from sudoers group?
[03:45] <spider> Quick question-- i have both ubuntu and vista. I want to remove ubuntu (temporarily) so i'll delete it's partition. Will this cause the grub menu getting confused and not letting me boot? If so, what's a good way to approach this?
[03:45] <kisuke> does any one know how to get the youtube function in totem working i search and then start something and get "unspecified gstreamer error"
[03:45] <crypto__> any teracopy alternative for ubuntu
[03:45] <gogeta> god what was that trygger
[03:45] <gogeta> trigger
[03:45] <mgmuscari1> spider: as long as grub doesn't reside on the same partition (i.e. you have a separate partition for /boot), it'll just fail when you try to use the ubuntu boot option
[03:46] <spider> mgmuscari1: im not sure if that's the case -- how can i check?
[03:46] <gogeta> spider: thers a grublive cd that can restore the windows boot as well as the windows cd itsself
[03:46] <usser> Roasted, accounts from domain are not added to any local group by default, at least not when i tried it with active directory here, ie any domain group memberships are not mapped locally, domain admins are not local admins