[04:52] <k0rbis> Ehh whatever, I just assign a huge password for root
[04:52] <histo> Hebram: hold up i'll get you link
[04:52] <k0rbis> and then use sudo command for everything else
[04:52] <clickme> hello
[04:52] <Hebram> histo:  Much appreciated =)
[04:52] <abhi_nav_> Dr_Willis: how to give grub pass? and how i have low security if someone have physical access to my pc?
[04:52] <k0rbis> You'll understand when you run Ubuntu Servers
[04:52] <mcurran> I'm running BT4 as root and made it an HD install and it's so much better not having to write in my goddamn password every ten seconds
[04:52] <abhi_nav_> histo: then how to make it secure?
[04:52] <histo> Hebram: sudo apt-get install dontzap
[04:53] <abhi_nav_> histo: Dr_Willis: mcurran: k0rbis: should i encrypt my whole 160gb hdd with truecrypt?
[04:53] <k0rbis> Whoa..write down your password?
[04:53] <histo> Hebram: then sudo dontzap --disable
[04:53] <k0rbis> *cough* LastPass *cough*
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> abhi_nav_:   locking down a 'public' pc can be a bit of a challange. depends a lot on the details.
[04:53] <histo> Hebram: is the easy way but you don't have to isntallt he package to do it.
[04:53] <Dr_Willis> abhi_nav_:  an encrypted users home is one set in the right directon at least
[04:53] <abhi_nav_> Dr_Willis: hmm ok
[04:53] <mcurran> Dr_willis - People are way too paranoid.  Who the hell would want to hack into your PC, it's a lot of work and usually if someone wants to get in and own your box they will.
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> abhi_nav_:  even if you give a password for grub. they could still use a live cd..
[04:54] <histo> abhi_nav_: you'd have to encrypt your drive and password you bios/ disable cd boot/ password grub etc...
[04:54] <k0rbis> Uhh I would advise people to encrypt hard drives if they are anal. But you don't have to if you never have anyone else insight of your machine
[04:54] <Hebram> histo:  I'll give that a shot.
[04:54] <abhi_nav_> mcurran: :)
[04:54] <adrian__> hey hi people
[04:54] <adrian__> a need some help i hope somebody can help me
[04:54] <k0rbis> I encrypt all 3 of my Ubuntu Servers
[04:54] <histo> abhi_nav_: even still that doesn't assure you.
[04:54] <abhi_nav_> histo: how to disable cd boot?
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> mcurran:  whatever..  theres more to sudo then 'the command you use to get root access' - the root password arguemts has 1000+ pages on the forums. its not for argument here.
[04:54] <tuntun> I installed a .deb of zoneminder, but there isn't a item in the applications menu and 'zoneminder' in the terminal doesn't work. How do I run it?
[04:54] <Hebram> hist:  apt doesn't find the package.  Special repository?
[04:54] <adrian__> y have this mother board asus p5e3 premium whith wifi Ap@n
[04:54] <adrian__> and i cant make it work
[04:55] <blakkheim> tuntun: dpkg -S zoneminder
[04:55] <histo> Hebram: hrm.. hold up
[04:55] <abhi_nav_> histo: Dr_Willis: mcurran: k0rbis: ok thnx
[04:55] <adrian__> in kubuntu or ubnuntu
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> tuntun:  use the package manager and see what it installed.
[04:55] <mcurran> I'm so sick of hearing people say, NOOO! don't do that.    Changing your root password is probably more secure, definately is, more secure than leaving it as default
[04:55] <adrian__> somebody knows something about it
[04:55] <adrian__> ?
[04:55] <Cappy> is there a version of ubuntu thats stripped to the bones by default? im looking for something that has the ease of use, without the bloat.
[04:55] <k0rbis> No problem, abhi_nav
[04:55] <blakkheim> !mini > Cappy
[04:55] <abhi_nav_> :)
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> Cappy:  the ease of use is what  IS the bloat normally
[04:55] <k0rbis> Glad to help out anyone else
[04:55] <te_> mcurran: Your logic is flawed.
[04:55] <histo> Hebram: or right alt + print screen + k    I guess works
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> Cappy:  theres minimal ubuntu variants out. but your definition of 'ease of use' may not be the same as mine.
[04:56] <dook> /part
[04:56] <k0rbis> te_ thats what I thought when he talked about setting up root passwords :/
[04:56] <Hebram> histo:  I'll try that.  Will it kill my current windows?
[04:56] <adrian__> can somebody help me whit my asus p5e3 wifi?
[04:56] <te_> mcurran: But you are free to do what you want with your system.
[04:56] <histo> Hebram: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-enabledisable-ctrlaltbackspace-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic.html
[04:56] <Cappy> i think im going to go back to Arch
[04:56] <histo> Hebram: yes it will take you back to login screen
[04:56] <k0rbis> Lol
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> Cappy:  go for it if you want. Have a nice day.
[04:56] <jzacsh> Cappy: I'd join you, but it fails to install on my IDE drives, for some reason :(
[04:57] <Hebram> histo:  Perfect.  Thanks for the link!
[04:57]  * abhi_nav_ is trying every distro in vm
[04:57] <k0rbis> Arch Linux is okay..
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> I got sick of arch. But theres alwyas the next disrto to try out
[04:57] <tuntun> Dr_Willis, its just zoneminder.
[04:57] <blankthemuffin> So I'm having some trouble with brasero. trying to burn a dvd video. get through all the options and hit burn to start burning, it crashes with "**ERROR: [brasero] Sample rate is greater than permitted in specified Level" I'm trying to burn a theora+vorbis encoded video at 2048 and64kbps respectively. any idea what I might have to transcode to in order to get this to work?
[04:57] <mcurran> We'll see how secure you are te_!
[04:57] <k0rbis> I still prefer BT4, Slackware, CentOS, Linux Mint, Super OS, and Ubuntu
[04:57] <Cappy> Dr_Willis, arch will run all my apps at the same time, ubuntu struggles to open more than 2 at a time
[04:57] <jzacsh> idk what I'd do without ubuntu -- easy for the family, which makes things easy on me :)
[04:57] <te_> mcurran: There is really no difference, security wise...
[04:57] <Dr_Willis> blankthemuffin:  i tend to use devede to generate a proper dvd video iso file. then i just burn that. I dident even realize that  brasero could make a dvd video disk.
[04:58] <k0rbis> I just find it easier to install what I need using Ubuntu.
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> Cappy:  whatever. Not enoguh info to trouble shoot. So have fun.
[04:58] <ouyes> is there any taper recode tools?
[04:58] <jzacsh> Cappy: Ubuntu does come bloated. But if you know how to handle arch, I would imagine you know how to skim down Ubuntu's bloat, too right?
[04:58] <ouyes> i want to recode some voice
[04:58] <Dr_Willis> jzacsh:  yep. exactly  my thinking on the topic also.
[04:58] <histo> Cappy: you can start with minimal and add packages that you want.
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> or just install a different window maanger and use it instead of gnome.
[04:59] <histo> Cappy: this is what I normally do since there is so much I don't need.
[04:59] <k0rbis> If they make it where you can customize the software at the beginning of Ubuntu installation, then it would be awesome.
[04:59] <Cappy> jzacsh, i've installed Ubuntu from the mini iso before, but it still doesnt compare to arch.. i dont know why,
[04:59] <te_> mcurran: But if we have weak passwords, yes, it's kind of in-secure.  But I'm behind a NAT firewall, so ... (and BTW, it is a Linux firewall).
[04:59] <histo> k0rbis: they have tasksel
[04:59] <k0rbis> Otherwise, I have to uninstall the stuff I don't want each time
[04:59] <jzacsh> Dr_Willis: Cappy a different window manager made a _huge_ difference on my ancient-tower (as I call it) - that's a good idea
[04:59] <k0rbis> What exactly is tasksel?
[04:59] <histo> k0rbis: and you can make a package list of your current install
[04:59] <tuntun> blakkheim, dpkg -S zoneminder, I guess it is showing the related files but I don't see anything to run
[04:59] <k0rbis> Really..
[04:59] <Dr_Willis> tuntun:  anything in a bin or sbin dir :)
[04:59] <histo> k0rbis: yes
[05:00] <k0rbis> So you saying I can create my own live cd?
[05:00] <Hebram> histo:  <right alt><print screen><k> was very effective -)
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> !remaster | k0rbis
[05:00] <herbero> Hi, I cannot get my functional (md5sum and also successfully run) ubuntu livecd to boot with my comp
[05:00] <herbero> I enabled it's boot priority in BIOS
[05:00] <k0rbis> Woot!
[05:00] <k0rbis> I'm on it
[05:00] <herbero> but nothing happens
[05:00] <k0rbis> ;-)
[05:00] <jzacsh> Cappy: I agree, but its preference, you have to remember that Ubuntu is made for a _huge_ _huge_ platform of people -- which is something to be _appreciated_ about it. so if you can use it (eg, as I do -- passing aroudn to the family -- so make my home network more secure), then go ahead :)
[05:00] <herbero> stagnates on verifying DMI pool data
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> k0rbis:  some other disrtros have better 'tools' for that. some let you do it on their customizer web sites.. which is a neat feature.
[05:00] <herbero> anyone know why this would happen/how to fix it?
[05:00] <k0rbis> Any ideas for Live CD?
[05:00] <histo> Hebram: yeah or that link will show you how to re enable ctrl + alt + backspace its in keyboard settings
[05:00] <abhi_nav_> I am upgrading grub2. so want to know your experince with it. is it fine to upgrade? I am using 9.041?
[05:00] <Cappy> what about just ditching gnome-desktop for vanilla gnome?
[05:00] <k0rbis> I'll be glad to help make one for requests
[05:00] <histo> k0rbis: what make your own live cd?
[05:01] <abhi_nav_> 9.04
[05:01] <k0rbis> Yes sir
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> k0rbis:  if i want a customuized live cd. i tend to use TinyCoreLinux
[05:01] <Kavinorum> anyone know why my screen goes dark in like 5-10 mins when in Power Management its set for 30 mins?
[05:01] <k0rbis> Alright
[05:01] <histo> k0rbis: there are tons of tutorials on the net
[05:01] <ouyes> anyone know the tools for voice record?
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> k0rbis:  if you are trying to find a reason to make one.. well then you dont really need one right now. heh:)
[05:01] <histo> k0rbis: for making yoru own ubuntu based distro
[05:01] <k0rbis> True..
[05:01] <jzacsh> Cappy: I've never looked at vanilla gnome (nor heard of it), but I can tell you that fluxbox made things fly on my old tower. you can also try the classic fvwm (i think.. that's the acronym?)... or you can try DWM (that's my next move).
[05:01] <k0rbis> But would be a fun project eh?
[05:02] <Hebram> Kavinorum:  It is possible that BIOS setting are trumping your power management software settings.
[05:02] <tuntun> Dr_Willis, nothing in a bin dir
[05:02] <nertil> were does ubuntu installs g6wc
[05:02] <Cappy> jzacsh, by "vanilla" i just mean 'gnome' without the ubuntu customizations
[05:02] <histo> k0rbis: yea you can make your own distro tailored to what you use.
[05:02] <k0rbis> Alright I'll do some research on making ubuntu distros
[05:02] <petsounds> Kavinorum, or check screensaver settings :)
[05:03] <croco> ƀ
[05:03] <Kavinorum> ah ok
[05:03] <herbero> anybody?
[05:03] <jzacsh> Cappy: ahh-- gotcha. I can't imagine it'll make _that_ big a difference. it also might make things funky in ubuntu (as I"m sure many of the customizations are for a good reason).
[05:03] <histo> k0rbis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallCDCustomization
[05:03] <tuntun> Dr_Willis, search for 'zoneminder bin' returns nothing. How can an install be so bad?
[05:03] <abhi_nav_> I am upgrading grub2. so want to know your experince with it. is it fine to upgrade?  I guess, I made it too big, It disappeared, after I saved the change. I don't know how to get the applet back. Can anybody help, please. Thanx
[05:03] <Kavinorum> hmm well why does it consider me to be idle when a video is playing?
[05:03] <te_> Topy44: copy and paste
[05:04] <herbero> how do you make a livecd work? I already enabled its boot priority
[05:04] <herbero> but stuck on verifying DMI pool data
[05:04] <Topy44> te_: no x running
[05:04] <herbero> I have used this disk on this comp before
[05:04] <puser> I have version 9.04
[05:04] <petsounds> Kavinorum, maybe because there's no keyboard or mouse activity
[05:04] <herbero> anyone got any ideas
[05:04] <tuntun> Why is this so hard for no reason?
[05:04] <te_> herbero: Many systems require F12
[05:04] <herbero> te_: did delete and F12
[05:04] <histo> k0rbis: this looks interesting http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/remastersys.html
[05:04] <herbero> te_: neither did it
[05:05] <tuntun> I just want to install a program, but theres no way to run it?
[05:05] <CPrgmSwR2> This really sucks
[05:05] <histo> k0rbis: lets you roll your current system in to livecd
[05:05] <CPrgmSwR2> It looks like I am screwed for getting sound to work out of my laptop speakers
[05:05] <k0rbis> @histo Oh wow, thanks man. This shows nice pictures and details.
[05:05] <te_> herbero: Is the CD bootable?  for sure...?
[05:05] <herbero> CPrgmSwR2: uninstall pulseaudio and install ALSA
[05:05] <k0rbis> @histo Kudos ;-)
[05:06] <blankthemuffin> oh cool thanks Dr_Willis, never realised DeVeDe would do anything other than just rip dvds
[05:06] <CPrgmSwR2> herbero: I am on kubuntu and don't use pulseaudio
[05:06] <herbero> te_: yeah I used it three days ago
[05:06] <te_> !sound | CPrgmSwR2
[05:06] <herbero> CPrgmSwR2: what kind of audio card?
[05:06] <k0rbis> Oh you have no idea..DeVeDe is amazing.
[05:06] <nertil> were does ubuntu installs g6wc
[05:06] <histo> gnight all
[05:06] <ouyes> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization, here is one for customize your distro
[05:06] <Oeslian> hey question im using a compaq presario r6000 and I am having graphical errors with opengl so i checked my drivers and realized I have none but under the Hardware Drivers shortcut there is nothing
[05:06] <nertil> !gw6c
[05:06] <k0rbis> Night
[05:06] <CPrgmSwR2> te_: I have do that
[05:06] <wweasel> Quick question: What file contains the log of output during startup? I'd like to see what happened during the fsck that I forced.
[05:06] <te_> herbero: Then it is a hardware issue.  Check bios settings again.
[05:06] <herbero> wweasel, dmesg
[05:07] <CPrgmSwR2> nVidia Corporation MCP67 High Definition Audio (rev a1)
[05:07] <herbero> wweasel: dmesg
[05:07] <CPrgmSwR2> http://git.alsa-project.org/?p=alsa-kmirror.git;a=blob;f=Documentation/ALSA-Configuration.txt;h=e0e54a27fc10905a62bd649605ad2dbe8f8bfdbf;hb=ba283e5ded21f6585b1f15254d6b4df94638eac2
[05:07] <herbero> te_: I did a few times
[05:07] <wweasel> herbero, that was my first thought, but dmesg has no mention of the fsck
[05:07] <puser> How to get the virgual windows applet back to the gnome taskbar?
[05:07] <CPrgmSwR2> te_: the sound works fine in windows
[05:07] <k0rbis> @wweasel You need to enable Bootloging
[05:07] <puser> virtual windows
[05:07] <hekin> question, why the fan constantly spinning?
[05:07] <k0rbis> @wweasel Use sudo gedit /etc/default/bootlogd
[05:07] <herbero> te_: it is definitely setup to boot cdrom first, then hd
[05:07] <herbero> wweasel: what about fsck are you checking?
[05:08] <k0rbis> @wweasel Change BOOTLOGD_ENABLE to yes
[05:08] <CPrgmSwR2> te_: I am going to check my bios settings
[05:08] <CPrgmSwR2> never thought of that
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> blankthemuffin:  heh - all dvd does is convert video to dvd.. i dont think it rips.. :)
[05:08] <wweasel> k0rbis, and set BOOTLOGD_ENABLE=Yes   ?
[05:08] <tuntun> Can anyone help? "zoneminder: command not found"
[05:08] <k0rbis> @wweasel each time you start up, /var/log/boot will be created
[05:08] <puser> ...anybody?
[05:08] <herbero> Dr_Willis: acidrip, or acetoneiso
[05:08] <puser> please help
[05:09] <steven_> hello all i cant download a game is d&d online
[05:09] <k0rbis> @wweasel Yeah you need to Enable it
[05:09] <wweasel> k0rbis, just out of curiosity, is /var/log/boot cleared and replaced at each startup, or appended to?
[05:09] <blankthemuffin> Dr_Willis, mmm I dunno anymore, I've installed that many video related apps :P
[05:09] <k0rbis> @wweasel Actually that is a good question, I think it refreshes every restart
[05:09] <te_> CPrgmSwR2: Are you getting any sort of error message when you try to play audio files?
[05:10] <puser> maybe somebody knows of a specific ubuntu gnome chatroom?
[05:10] <Hebram> puser:  Right click a gnome panel, choose "add to panel", and add the Workspace Switcher.
[05:10] <k0rbis> @wweasel I could be wrong though
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> blankthemuffin:  for video -> dvd format. I tend to alwyas use devede. Not even sure what apps can generate a dvd iso from videos with a menu.
[05:10] <wweasel> k0rbis, cool! that's exactly what I needed. thank you for the help!
[05:10] <tuntun> Can anyone help? "zoneminder: command not found"
[05:10] <steven_> if some can help me
[05:10] <k0rbis> @wweasel My pleasure. Enjoy man.
[05:10] <herbero> tuntun: is this an installed program?
[05:11] <k0rbis> @steven whats up? Can I help you?
[05:11] <steven_> ok
[05:11] <tuntun> herbero, it just installed a .deb
[05:11] <herbero> tuntun: how, and where?
[05:11] <te_> tuntun: which zoneminder
[05:11] <clickme> i just got the MSI X340 the mic and webcam don't work can anyone help me
[05:11] <steven_> i can to download a goame dd online it say error
[05:12] <tuntun> herbero, It should have installed to a default directory somewhere
[05:12] <puser> Hebram: thanks, I am new and overwhelmed, like a villager in New York.
[05:12] <tuntun> te_, version?
[05:12] <k0rbis> @steven dd online what version? Latest?
[05:12] <herbero> tuntun: it? where did you get this?
[05:12] <steven_> 3.5
[05:12] <Hebram> puser:  Welcome.  I don't know of a Ubuntu specific gnome channel, but there is #gnome.
[05:13] <k0rbis> @steven Ok I'll take a look at it
[05:13] <te_> tuntun: In a terminal window, issue command:  which zoneminder
[05:13] <puser> thanx, Hebram
[05:13] <claws> Guys..please....  i have a intel pro 2200bg wlan on my laptop and i got this Router http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Communication/Products_Spec.aspx?ProductID=2974&ProductName=GN-BR32L-RH ..... my adsl line is 1mb/s ... why am i getting just 100KB speed on wireless ? any help will be much appreciated  :)
[05:13] <Hebram> puser:  Anytime.  Enjoy -)
[05:13] <k0rbis> @steven is it the ddo.com website?
[05:13] <steven_> it say that now my archive manager
[05:13] <nullp0inter> hey all i am trying to set up a share folder between windows 7 and ubuntu 8.04 and have had no success at all...can anyone help?
[05:13] <steven_> yes
[05:13] <tuntun> herbero, zoneminder_1.24.2-1_i386.deb
[05:13] <k0rbis> @steven You have the latest Wine installed?
[05:13] <herbero> tuntun: how did you install this?
[05:14] <clen> does anyone have any ‸̧̱̣̃̆̃̃̋̆̊‸̵̱̱̣̣̊̋̃̊̌̋̋̃̃̌̃‸̵̧̧̱̱̊̌̆̋̆̆̃‸̊‸̵̣̣̣̌̊‸̵̧̱̱̱̣̊̊̆̋‸̵̵̵̱̋̌̌̆̆̋‸̧̌̆̃̆‸̧̱̃‸̵̋̌?
[05:14] <te_> !samba | nullp0inter
[05:14] <tuntun> te_, nothing returns
[05:14] <steven_> no i need that right
[05:14] <k0rbis> @steven Yes, if its a Windows executable
[05:14] <te_> tuntun: locate zoneminder
[05:14] <k0rbis> @steven Otherwise, you can't run it.
[05:15] <steven_> ok thank
[05:15] <tuntun> herbero, double click, "install package"
[05:15] <Purpley> Hey guys I want to make my tv screen a clone of my monitor, when I do Twinview its more like your using two monitors like everything is spread out between the two I want the tv to display exactly what my monitor is displaying How do i do this? I have a nvidia gpu and use Nvidia X Server Settings
[05:15] <k0rbis> @steven Latest Wine http://www.winehq.org/download
[05:15] <herbero> tuntun: cd /home
[05:15] <herbero> tuntun: and ls
[05:15] <jzacsh> k
[05:15] <herbero> is it there?
[05:15] <tuntun> te_, still nothing returns
[05:15] <WARLORD|DIPLOMAT> id like to report someone using
[05:15] <WARLORD|DIPLOMAT> DCC SEND "nice_linksys_bro" 0 0 0?
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[05:16] <te_> tuntun: sudo apt-get install zoneminder
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> heh heh
[05:16] <claws> please ...anyone..
[05:16] <Purpley> Hey guys I want to make my tv screen a clone of my monitor, when I do Twinview its more like your using two monitors like everything is spread out between the two I want the tv to display exactly what my monitor is displaying How do i do this? I have a nvidia gpu and use Nvidia X Server Settings
[05:16] <friendishan> hello
[05:16] <tuntun> herbero, one folder
[05:16] <k0rbis> @claws Sorry what do you need?
[05:16] <Dr_Willis> Purpley:  check the nvidia-settings tools. theres a clone feature/checkbox or somthing
[05:17] <friendishan> I want to install thunderbird how do i do that?
[05:17] <herbero> tuntun: yeah, open terminal and type sudo apt-get install zoneminder
[05:17] <steven_> witch one is the wine i need
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> !info zoneminder
[05:17] <te_> friendishan: sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[05:17] <Hebram> claws:  lots of factors can affect your wifi speed and connectivity.  Distance, materials the radio waves travel though, cordless phones, baby monitors.
[05:17] <Purpley> Dr_Willis, Yes TwinView, but that isnt a twin view thats dual monitoring
[05:17] <k0rbis> @steven the stable release
[05:17] <Topy44> nice, i just downgraded gdm to 2.20 on my karmic and its working nicely
[05:17] <mendan> hlgphppojh
[05:17] <Dr_Willis> Purpley:  use the CLONE option. not twinview I belive
[05:17] <mendan> hgvhjvgvgj
[05:17] <mendan> ytgfuy
[05:17] <mendan> u,
[05:17] <mendan> uu
[05:17] <friendishan> te_ before that sudo apt-get update?
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[05:17] <tuntun> te_, errors
[05:17] <claws> k0rbis:  i have a intel pro 2200bg wlan on my laptop and i got this Router http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Communication/Products_Spec.aspx?ProductID=2974&ProductName=GN-BR32L-RH ..... my adsl line is 1mb/s ... why am i getting just 100KB speed on wireless ? any help will be much appreciated  :)
[05:18] <k0rbis> @steven You will need to ./configure and make install
[05:18] <te_> tuntun: What errors?
[05:18] <Dr_Willis> Purpley:  let me see wher its at.. i saw it the other day. I nmroally use twinview
[05:18] <k0rbis> @claws How is your signal strength?
[05:18] <te_> friendishan: Yes, correct
[05:18] <Purpley> Dr_Willis, Theres Disabled Seperate X Screen and TwinView
[05:18] <steven_> i not showing in i show bate
[05:18] <friendishan> te_ ok i'll try thanks
[05:18] <claws> Hebram: i am max 10 meters away from router. or even just 1m from it
[05:19] <claws> k0rbis:  signal is 98%
[05:19] <tuntun> te_, too many, Im just going to look for a win version or forget it
[05:19] <k0rbis> @steven http://www.winehq.org/download/deb
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> Purpley:  actually on many of my systems if i  dont use the nvidia drivers they default to clone. :)   i cant recall using clone on the nvidia box  recently. Just on the netbook
[05:19] <k0rbis> @claws Make sure you have the latest Wireless drivers for your card on your machine.
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> Purpley:  look in the 'positions' pulldown perhaps
[05:20] <faron> hey does anybody here know if I can like shrink this chat window down to a panel & be aware of someone "replying" to a message I have in another chat ?
[05:20] <Purpley> Dr_Willis, Im also running xbmc and thats stretching is that a option in xbmc or is that the driver?
[05:20] <k0rbis> @claws Older drivers will cause those problems, it happened to me when I had Dell usb card
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> Purpley:  i can set up twinview here where it maxamizes to my 2nd monitor
[05:20] <te_> tuntun: sudo apt-get update
[05:20] <Dr_Willis> Purpley:  that wayi can irc and watch videos :)
[05:21] <claws> k0rbis:  do i need drivers specific for linux ?
[05:21] <faron> drwillis....this sounds like wha I'm, asking about........
[05:21] <claws> k0rbis:  how do i check my drivers version ?
[05:21] <Dr_Willis> faron:  huh. depending on the irc client you can get all kinds of notifications
[05:22] <k0rbis> @claws Its best to get the ones compatible for Linux. I am currently using compatible for Linux.
[05:22] <nullp0inter> when configuring fstab to to permanently mount a share, how do i put in the user password? in the example page on ubuntu it only shows what to do for a guest
[05:22] <Hebram> claws:  You should be using the ipw2200 driver and firmware.
[05:22] <k0rbis> @claws You don't have to though, some work right out of the box.
[05:22] <Purpley> Dr_Willis, I have that setup too :) I have a monitor by the side of this for monitoring my server
[05:22] <nullp0inter> nevermind
[05:22] <nullp0inter> scrolling down would help
[05:22] <jobba777> hello, need some help with NVIDIA driver problem, see this link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/389036/plain/
[05:23] <Dr_Willis> nullp0inter:  :) Just watch out for shares with Spaces in the names.. that can really goof you up
[05:23] <te_> !nvidia | jobba777
[05:23] <faron> wow ! there's like 138 people in that room & ti looks like NO ONE is talking !
[05:24] <Purpley> Argh, I hate my gpu :( Its a nvidia so it should be supported but Ive had so many freakin problems with xorg
[05:24] <friendishan> faron this is a help channel
[05:24] <Hebram> claws:  I have that wifi adapter on an old dell and didn't have much success with the wext driver that wpa_supplicant uses.
[05:24] <friendishan> !off-topic | faron
[05:24] <nullp0inter> Dr_Willis, thanks
[05:25] <Dr_Willis> Purpley:  i relized the opther day that i have an onboard nvidia card also. I can use 3 monitors.. but cant quite get it working right in Linux.. but i can in windows.. I think it may be due tome needing 2 differnt nvidia driver versions one for the onboard. one for the pcie card. :(
[05:25] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[05:25] <maxjezy1> :-D
[05:26] <friendishan> !lol | maxjezy1
[05:26] <claws> Hebram: im here.. http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/ ..not sure wich driver to download
[05:26] <maxjezy1> sorry
[05:27] <fuxximus> what's a good software to view folder sizes? like TreeSize for windows?
[05:27] <hotzmancudiez> #irc.rizon.net
[05:27] <faron> so sorry if I've offended
[05:27] <Hebram> claws: one minute
[05:27] <hotzmancudiez> connect #irc.rizon.net
[05:28] <fuxximus> anyone pleasE?
[05:28] <friendishan> !sorry | maxjezy1
[05:28] <te_> fuxximus: ls -l
[05:28] <bazhang> friendishan, please dont overuse the factoids
[05:29] <jobba777> obottu: thx, im looking into it now.
[05:29] <te_> friendishan: You can use them all you want via /msg ubottu !what-ever
[05:29] <Topy44> are there any known workarounds for the "bug" in gnome-panel that auto-hide panels will always remain 1px?
[05:29] <fuxximus> @ te_ but i need a decent gnome based software that quickly shows all folders with a tree strucures and their size
[05:29] <friendishan> te_ i know i first check that ways
[05:29] <Topy44> (i know its technically not a bug but a bad design choice)
[05:30] <claws> Hebram: ok, im on Ubuntu :) .. one more thing, do i list my hardware drivers with " lspci "  ?
[05:31] <faron> is it proper irc etiquite for me to say hello to someone in this channel who has helped me before ? I certainly don't mean to offend anyone if so........ hello bazhang
[05:31] <Hebram> claws:  do a "dmesg | grep 2200" and paste the output
[05:31] <trichomes> hello
[05:31] <faron> And,sorry if I've erred everybody
[05:32] <bazhang> faron, hi
[05:32] <trichomes> which repository is fasterest
[05:32] <fuxximus> te_ and ls -l does not show folder size
[05:32] <Oeslian> trich what you mean?
[05:32] <icoder> is there a way to clean the logs after a specific interval? i can see a lot of old logs i nth elog viewer
[05:32] <faron> just want to say hello & thanks again for any help
[05:32] <te_> fuxximus: ls -ld
[05:33] <te_> fuxximus: ls -ld |grep folder-name/
[05:33] <icoder> do old logs slow down the system?
[05:33] <te_> icoder: no
[05:33] <claws> Hebram: paste here...or pm ?
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> icoder:  they are just archived text files.. so no
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> icoder:  i think the oldest ones get auto removed after a while.
[05:33] <icoder> where can i find the logs?
[05:33] <Hebram> claws here is fine
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> icoder:  /var/log
[05:34] <fuxximus> ls -ld for some reason shows only 1 folder still no size
[05:34] <claws> Hebram: [    9.156983] ipw2200: Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.2.2kmprq
[05:34] <claws> [    9.156986] ipw2200: Copyright(c) 2003-2006 Intel Corporation
[05:34] <claws> [    9.157068] ipw2200 0000:02:03.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
[05:34] <claws> [    9.157141] ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection
[05:34] <claws> [    9.157179] ipw2200 0000:02:03.0: firmware: requesting ipw2200-bss.fw
[05:34] <FloodBot3> claws: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:34] <claws> [    9.621180] ipw2200: Detected geography ZZD (13 802.11bg channels, 0 802.11a channels)
[05:34] <icoder> Dr_Willis: where can i change the time duration?
[05:34] <fuxximus> besides need a gnome gui interface solution
[05:34] <Dr_Willis> icoder:  no idea. Why do you even think its a problem?
[05:34] <fuxximus> at least a search key word
[05:34] <icoder> Dr_Willis: its not a problem i want to keep it clean
[05:34] <fuxximus> because looking for "linux filesystem folder sizes"
[05:35] <fuxximus> doesnt quite do it
[05:35] <te_> fuxximus: du -s folder-name/
[05:35] <Hebram> claws:  you are already running the proper ipw2200 drivers and firmware
[05:35]  * benchen70 wave hello to everyone
[05:35] <icoder> Dr_Willis: ideally how old the logs should be kept?
[05:35] <te_> !hi | benchen70
[05:36] <nullp0inter> ok so i just edited my fstab configured with my share config..now how do i actually get the share connected?
[05:36] <zetheroo> why is it that some bug fixes take forever to be implemented into the Ubuntu kernel?
[05:36] <benchen70> Sorry guys, just testing out IRC.  More used to MSN
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> icoder:  never really noticed.   probery  7 days
[05:36] <te_> nullp0inter: it should connect automatically
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> icoder:  see how old stuff in /var/log is
[05:37] <nullp0inter> te_ i dont see anything in the folder i designated for it
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> nullp0inter:  witht eh mount command
[05:37] <icoder> i just noticed.. there is no mention of the word "linux" on the homepage of ubuntu.. why is that???
[05:37] <zetheroo> it's been almost a year since this bug was fixed in launchpad and still it has not been implemented in the official kernel
[05:38] <claws> Hebram: so its hopeless?  :(
[05:38] <te_> nullp0inter: Would have to see the what you have, pastebinit /etc/fstab
[05:38] <zetheroo> is there THAT much backlog?
[05:38] <nullp0inter> Dr_Willis, example?
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> nullp0inter:  mount basics..  --->  sudo mount /media/mountpoint
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> !mount
[05:38] <faron> this may not really be a ubuntu issue but,I can't seem to get a reply from anyone at pidgin...does anyone know...what does it mean when pidgin times you out & you go to your buddy list & click on "reconnect",but you just sit there staring at this message forever informing you  "connecting"  ??
[05:39] <fuxximus> gettin close
[05:39] <mcurran> Noone here uses metasploit?
[05:39] <nullp0inter> Dr_Willis, i know HOW to mount, just not WHAT
[05:39] <icoder> is the yahoo bug for empathy resolved??
[05:39] <fuxximus> on du there doesn't seem to be an option to count only directories
[05:39] <te_> nullp0inter: sudo mount /mount/point
[05:39] <nullp0inter> te_ http://codepad.org/tSGtjbxw
[05:39] <fuxximus> how could i possibly exclude files
[05:39] <Hebram> claws:  I wouldn't say that.  My identical adapter works great in Karmic.  I did some googling and found that some are complaining that the adapter is slow in Karmic, but worked well in 9.04.
[05:39] <fuxximus> thanx te_
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> nullp0inter:  you made the fstab entry.. where did you tell it to mount to?
[05:40] <icoder> all .04 versions are somewhat better than .10
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> nullp0inter:  if you told it /media/winshare  then use mount /media/winshare
[05:40] <claws> Hebram: hmm... i will check that out.. thank you :)
[05:40] <te_> nullp0inter: line 12 has extra /
[05:40] <spydefender> Hello, how can I make numlock on on Ubuntu login screen?
[05:40] <theadmin> What versions of PHP and Apache does the LAMP server in Ubuntu's tasksel come with?
[05:41] <Hebram> claws:  Wish I could have been of more assistance.
[05:41] <Hebram> claws:  Good luck -)
[05:41] <te_> nullp0inter: and /media/ is not a good place for it.
[05:41] <icoder> didnt know that lamp server was available in ubuntu
[05:42] <theadmin> icoder: It is, run "sudo tasksel", you will see
[05:42] <benchen70> spydefender: isn't your keyboard able to numlock? What happens to it when you press numlock?
[05:42] <nullp0inter> te_ that article the bot linked me to had those directions
[05:43] <bdiggs> Hey guys, I've got a really old system, do you think fluxbuntu might be the lightest of the ubuntu distros?  (without rolling your own so to speak...)
[05:43] <theadmin> Didn't fluxbuntu stop being developed?
[05:43] <spydefender> Numlock works fine, but when I start Ubuntu, LED is off and I need hit it everytime
[05:44] <bdiggs> Might have beeen....it's definitely kind of "on hold" but you can still download some legacy versions and their website claims to be "coming soon" I think
[05:44] <te_> nullp0inter: Start over.  What exactly are you trying to do?
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  i think so. or was that crunchbang
[05:44] <Hebram> claws:  Try downloading the 9.04 live CD and testing performance from that.  It could save you the trouble of committing to a downgraded OS install if it does not work.
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> theadmin:  or both. :)
[05:44] <nullp0inter> te_ windows 7 share with ubuntu 8.04
[05:44] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: The latest release they have is "9.04 Expiremental".
[05:44] <nullp0inter> te_ when i try to mount the share nothing happens, just A BLANK command line
[05:44] <bdiggs> oh, I know it won't...well anyway on this system.  I'm kind of testing some things on virtualbox.
[05:45] <spydefender> my password is numeric...
[05:45] <Purpley> Whens the offical release date for lucid?
[05:45] <bdiggs> but I'm thinking dsl...because it's about 64MB of ram and 266mhz
[05:45] <theadmin> Purpley: 10.04, dude, April of 2010.
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> Purpley:  the version # is the date. :)
[05:45] <Hebram> purpley:  April 29th I believe.
[05:46] <abhi_nav> hey raj
[05:46] <benchen70> Spydefender: read this...  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=16891
I need to set numlock status on when starts login screen
[05:46] <benchen70> spydefender: hope that helps
[05:46] <te_> nullp0inter:  Are you trying to mount your MS Windows partition, (on the same system?
[05:46] <tony_> hello, how can active the administrador: login window?
[05:46] <theadmin> tony_: What?
[05:46] <spydefender> thx, I will read it now
[05:46] <tony_> login window preference
[05:46] <nullp0inter> te_ i have a folder on windows thaT is on a different computer on the same local network
[05:47] <abhi_nav> raj need to talk to you about that firefox issue
[05:47] <benchen70> spydefender: don't thank me, thank the authors....
[05:47] <tony_> theadmin I cant see it
[05:47] <spydefender> sorry, how to answer with name in xchat? xD
[05:47] <theadmin> tony_: Uh, it is in System - Admininstration - Login window
[05:47] <tony_> may you help me
[05:47] <tony_> yeah
[05:47] <Purpley> AWWWW releasing at the end of april? thats torture :(
[05:47] <te_> nullp0inter: You'll have to use samba
[05:47] <nullp0inter> spydefender, /*me...without the *]
[05:47] <theadmin> tony_: If it's just all grey, hit "unlock"
[05:48] <nullp0inter> te_ i installed smbfs
[05:48] <theadmin> tony_: Something like icon with keys
[05:48] <te_> nullp0inter: smbclient
[05:48] <bdiggs> If someone feels like it, could they provide little info on compiz-fusion and how it works?  That's a window manager, right?  And if you use that you are actually replacing metacity (gnome) or kwin (kde) or something? ( with xfce)....or is that a window manager itself?
[05:48] <tony_> theadmin how to unlock it
[05:48] <theadmin> tony_: Sigh, okay, let's go the simple way. Run "gksu gdmsetup" in terminal
[05:49] <tony_> ok hold on
[05:49]  * benchen70 currently urgently fixing a bouncing washing machine
[05:50] <nullp0inter> te_ i apprently already have it, says apt
[05:50] <theadmin> By the way any ideas why default GDM2 setup utility in Ubuntu is so much of a worse then one for GDM1?
[05:50] <spydefender> If I want to answer anybody(red highlighted message) what I must do in xchat?
[05:50] <te_> nullp0inter: did you do sudo mount -a ?
[05:50] <nullp0inter> spydefender, i already answered you
[05:50] <nullp0inter> te_ i did mount /media/Abazoskib-w7
[05:51] <spydefender> slash dont do anything and message dissapeared
[05:51] <nullp0inter> te_ i just tried it with -a and same result...just hangs
[05:51] <te_> nullp0inter: And did you get any sort of error?  or...?
[05:51] <nullp0inter> te_ it says WARNING dir_mode not expressed in octal
[05:52] <nullp0inter> te_ then just hangs
[05:52] <te_> nullp0inter:  Can you ping it?  ping Abazoskib-w7
[05:52] <Ritlee> spydefender, type their name and it might highlight on their end
[05:52] <theadmin> te_ Don't you ping network nodes, not partitions? :/
[05:52] <bazhang> spydefender, tab complete, type first three letters, also check in preferences to respond to last spoken rather than alphabetical
[05:52] <bazhang> spydefender, first three letters or so then tab key
[05:52] <te_> theadmin: You are correct.
 I dont know but I would like to have full control to login windows
[05:52] <spydefender> nullp0inter, hello
[05:52] <tony_> for make a change
[05:53] <spydefender> it works?
[05:53] <tony_> when start
[05:53] <nullp0inter> yes
[05:53] <theadmin> tony_: What exactly do you want to change?
[05:53] <tony_> the system
[05:53] <spydefender> Oh incredible! xD
[05:53] <Dr_Willis> nullp0inter:  ive also had cases where i had to access a samba server via ip. instead of its hostname.   You can  also check out the findsmb and smbtree commands
[05:53] <Hebram> theadmin:  The last time my harddrive pinged it died shortly after -)
[05:53] <te_> theadmin: Abazoskib-w7 is supposedly the hostname
 im changing the ubuntu for mac
[05:53] <faron> hey everybody I asked a question in another room with 138 people in it & this room seems to be "dead".Does this mean anything to anybody ?
[05:53] <nullp0inter> te_ ping is working
[05:54] <spydefender> first time in IRC, sry
[05:54] <theadmin> tony_: Uh... uhm, you can't install a mac on a normal machine, they run on specific hardware only. So if you want to run a mac, you need to somehow install it first
 and just to change when the start and I finish
[05:54] <bazhang> faron, which channel? #pidgin ? be patient then
[05:54] <benchen70> Hi Faron, it probably means that no one is on in that room
[05:54] <faron> yes bazhang...pidgin
[05:54] <theadmin> tony_: Or do you mean you're installing a mac theme?
[05:54] <blakkheim> theadmin: actually you can install os x on a "normal machine"
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> faron:  means they may be busy. :)
 I did
[05:54] <tony_> yeah
[05:54] <tony_> it is very nice
[05:54] <Cyber_Akuma> technically the motherboard and being efi based is about the only mac-specific thing they have...
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> theres 1311 people in here.. and proberly only a 100 or so active at any one time
[05:55] <theadmin> tony_: Ah, okay, so you just want to change the background and such on the login window?
[05:55] <faron> hmmmm ok I just thought maybe somehow they weren't seeing me
[05:55] <te_> nullp0inter: Is it password protected?
[05:55] <bazhang> hackintosh is offtopic here and not supported, if that is what is being suggested
[05:55] <friendishan> when i start evolution the computer hangs and i have to remove the plug to close it, i waited for 20 mins
[05:55] <adarsha> how do i import vpn settings from a .vpn file in network manager?
 but just only to change to start to ubuntu and i finish
[05:55] <theadmin> bazhang: I belive he just installed mac4lin or smth
[05:55] <tony_> yeah
[05:55] <Cyber_Akuma> I was merely saying that mac hardware isn't really that special/unique from average pc hardware
[05:56] <Cyber_Akuma> especially the important stuff like cpu, gpu, ram, etc
[05:56] <te_> nullp0inter: You might try testing with smbclient
[05:56] <nullp0inter> te_ PM?
[05:56] <friendishan> when i start evolution the computer hangs and i have to remove the plug to close it, i waited for 20 mins
[05:56] <theadmin> tony_: Okay, try this then: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gdm2setup/gdm2setup && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install python-gdm2setup && sudo /usr/bin/gdm2setup
[05:57] <bazhang> friendishan, please dont repeat so quickly
[05:57] <friendishan> bazhang ok
[05:57] <tony_> startupmanager-configuration
[05:57] <adarsha> how do i import vpn settings from a .vpn file in network manager? please help!
[05:57] <claws> Hebram: i will do that now :)
[05:58] <mihir> hello friends
[05:58] <Hebram> claws:  Good luck =)
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> Adrian:  the configure VPN dialog box here has a IMPORT button
[05:58] <claws> Hebram: thx :)
[05:58] <friendishan> help
 it is run
[05:58] <Dr_Willis> adarsha:  the configure VPN dialog box here has a IMPORT button
[05:58] <Scarra3> Im having trouble deciding between Ubuntu and Xubuntu
[05:59] <mihir> is there any utility in ubuntu like disk clean up in windows
[05:59] <adarsha> Dr_Willis: all the buttons are disabled! :(
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> Scarra3:  you can always install xubuntu desktop on iubuntu of visa versa.. so its not a big deal
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> adarsha:  not here. Perhaps yoyu need to run it as your admin users account
[05:59] <adarsha> Dr_Willis: how do i do that??
[05:59] <Scarra3> I know Dr_Willis: Its more of I keep changing my OS I install ubuntu then get bored so move to a different distro like fedora or slackware
[06:00] <adarsha> Dr_Willis: ubuntu doesn't allow me to login as root.
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> adarsha:  login as your admin user perhaps. Its not disabled here.. but i only have the 1 user. who is the sudo user.
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> adarsha:  you DONT login as root. thats not the same as your 'admin/sudo enabled' user.
[06:00] <abhi_nav> :(
[06:00] <adarsha> Dr_Willis: i am a sudo user. but it's not allowing me.
[06:00] <Dr_Willis> adarsha:  well its lettingme. So ive no other ideas.
[06:00] <mirsal> moin
[06:01] <adarsha> Dr_Willis: Well, thanks...
[06:01] <freeaks> hi there, i wonder if its possible to install another ubuntu desktop variant (kde, gnome, xfce, lxde ....) and remove the others previously installed ?
[06:01] <Hebram> Scarra3:  After all of the trouble of building a solid Slackware install, why would you bother to switch?
[06:01] <benchen70> mihir: here is a website with recommendations on cleaning ubuntu systems. ...  http://maketecheasier.com/8-ways-to-maintain-a-clean-lean-ubuntu-machine/2008/10/07
[06:01] <Dr_Willis> freeaks:  yes its possible
[06:01] <blakkheim> slackware isn't that much trouble
[06:01] <Scarra3> Well Hebram it really wasn't stable lol
[06:01] <freeaks> like for example if i want to test lubuntu (lxde) i do: apt-get install lubuntu-desktop  .. but i would like to remove all the gnome and kde stuffs too
[06:02] <freeaks> Dr_Willis:  how can i do that?
[06:02] <friendishan> when i start evolution the computer hangs and i have to remove the plug to close it, i waited for 20 mins
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> freeaks:  lubuntu  i found goofed thigns up worse then most.  lubuntu-desktop package removed network manager and installed wicd. so that may be an issue
[06:02] <xangua> freeaks: installing is easy, but removing........
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> freeaks:  i just tend to install and leave them installed.
[06:02] <Dr_Willis> Lubuntu is so lacking in  many ways - i cant stand it
[06:03] <Hebram> Scarra3:  Isn't stability the bastion of the Slackware philosophy? lol
[06:03] <bazhang> freeaks, /msg ubottu purekde  or puregnome for some links/info
[06:03] <freeaks> Dr_Willis:  my question is specificaly about removing unused things .. i know installing another desktop is easy ..
[06:03] <freeaks> bazhang:  i'm trying
[06:03] <freeaks>  /msg purekde
[06:03] <freeaks> ?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> freeaks:  the way meta-packages work. it can be a hassle finding EVERYTHING that may get installed.
[06:04] <herbero> how big should I make my /boot?
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> !purekde
[06:04] <benchen70> !purekde
[06:04] <herbero> ubottu: /boot
[06:04] <bazhang> freeaks, /msg ubottu
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> herbero:  why are you using a seperate /boot anyway?  100-200mb isproberly plenty
[06:04] <freeaks> !ubottu
[06:04] <brjann> herbero: I think the installation guide recommended 100 MB.
[06:04] <SwedeMike> herbero: 256 megs should be enough
[06:04] <freeaks> bazhang:  thanks
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> herbero:  my /boot is like 2 gb. becuse i keep some iso files on it. and let grub2 boot the iso files
[06:05] <herbero> Dr_Willis: I am re-establishing my RAID and I want /boot to be on a RAID 1 but have its own partition
[06:05]  * spydefender Off
[06:05] <stygian> what do i have to install to get rid of this?  configure.ac:36: error: possibly undefined macro: AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE type of stuff?
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> herbero:  with raid.. i recall some limitations on whats bootable.. but i dont use them any more.  always kept /boot  on its own non-raid drive ages  ago
[06:06] <TannerF> how do i install a .deb via shell?
[06:06] <ZykoticK9> TannerF, sudo dpkg -i FILE.deb
[06:06] <TannerF> ty
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> TannerF:  gdebi *.deb is one way also
 thank you man
[06:07] <adarsha> can i enable root login in ubuntu?
[06:07] <brjann> Dr_Willis, herbero: /boot on software raid is perfectly fine, you just have to make sure that grub's MBR gets installed on a real (non-raid) device
[06:07] <theadmin> adarsha: No. This isn't secure anymore
[06:07] <ZykoticK9> adarsha, yes, but it's not supported in this channel
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> adarsha:  you can. but shouldent need to.
[06:07] <theadmin> Or is it? :D %)
[06:08] <adarsha> Dr_Willis: but the vpn thing isn't working even if i'm in the sudoers file.
[06:08] <herbero> brjann: meaning that the master boot record in /boot is on a disk that is not included in the RAID 1?
[06:08] <adarsha> theadmin: y is it not secure?
[06:08] <benchen70> adarsha: what do you need root access for?
[06:09] <theadmin> adarsha: Huh, VPN is working for me
[06:09] <adarsha> benchen70: i want to configure vpn, but all the buttons are disabled. so i thought of logging in as root.
[06:09] <mihir> while installing software from synaptic package manager there is third party software which is not authenticated by ubuntu is it safe to download that software and install it
[06:09] <mr-grey2> I gotta quick question.. Would anyone happen to know why my headphone jack works but still plays audio out of the laptop speakers? I never seen a problem like this before
[06:09] <theadmin> adarsha: Did you hit the unlock button? %)
[06:10] <basncy> join <ubuntu-cn>
[06:10] <brjann> herbero: no, that's not it. say you have a RAID 1 setup with /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1, raided together into /dev/md1, which you use as /. when grub is installed, it must be installed to /dev/sda or /dev/sdb (whichever the BIOS boots off)
[06:10] <basncy> 中文
[06:10] <adarsha> theadmin: but all the buttons are disabled in mine. i want to import settings from a .vpn file. there doesn't seem to be any unlock button!
[06:10] <bazhang> basncy, /join #ubuntu-cn
[06:11] <theadmin> adarsha: Hm, really strange
[06:11] <basncy> 怎么加入其它聊天室？
[06:11] <brjann> herbero: does that make sense?
[06:11] <herbero> brjann: so if I make sda1 /boot and sda2 and sdb2 a RAID 1 (/dev/md0) I should be fine if /dev/sda is the boot device?
[06:11] <abhi_nav> !en | basncy
[06:11] <adarsha> theadmin: yeah! the unlock button is supposed to be a key icon at the bottom rit? it's not there! :(
[06:11] <bazhang> basncy, type:   /join #ubuntu-cn
[06:12] <herbero> brjann: in BIOS
[06:12] <basncy> thanks
[06:12] <latino> hello
[06:12] <latino> can any1 help me with video drivers
[06:12] <adarsha> well, can anyone tell me how to enable root login? i'm curious..
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> I dont have an Unlock button on my  Network settings either
[06:12] <Dr_Willis> adarsha:  just set a root user password
[06:13] <theadmin> Guess i still remember the interpid days lol
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> adarsha:  and poof its unlocked.
[06:13] <Ritlee> adarsha, don
[06:13] <mihir> while installing software from synaptic package manager there is third party software which is not authenticated by ubuntu is it safe to download that software and install it
[06:13] <Ritlee> adarsha, don't really recommending it... use sudo instead
[06:13] <adarsha> Dr_Willis: i have a root password as well...
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> adarsha:  then it is unlocked..
[06:13] <theadmin> mihir: It usually is, just no imported GPG key
[06:13] <Ritlee> damn one mgiht think english isn't my first language
[06:13] <abhi_nav> mihir: normally no. but which is that software?
[06:14] <te_> latino: What is your  question?
[06:14] <adarsha> Ritlee: yeah, i know that, but i'm curious, and i also have prob with vpn.
[06:14] <mr-grey2> It seems that my audio device is properly installed but for some reasion the audio still comes out from the speakers once the headphones are plugged into the jack on the laptop
[06:14] <adarsha> Dr_Willis: but it isn't!
[06:14] <adarsha> :(
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> adarsha:  clarify what you mean.
[06:14] <mr-grey2> almost as if ubuntu does not detect the headphone jack is in use
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> adarsha:  go to the console. see if you can login as root, as the user.. if you can.. its unlocked
[06:15] <brjann> herbero: yes, that would be fine. but you *can* RAID 1 your /boot partition too, so long as your MBR is installed to an actual device. i feel like i'm not being very clear! sorry :(
[06:15] <adarsha> Dr_Willis: i used sudo passwd root to set root password.
[06:15] <latino> te_: gateway laptop with latest ubuntu and video is off... need help installing drivers
[06:15] <adarsha> root login works in console. even su works!
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> adarsha:  then you can directly login as root at the console...
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> adarsha:  so.. its not locked then
[06:15] <Curly_Q> I did an SSH 192.168.0.~ login but when I tried to access a file I got the message: /usr/share/apache2/default-site/index.html     access denied. Why cannot I access the index.html file? I also did sudo access.
[06:16] <mihir> like i have taken screenshot of software PDFedit and with it some other software do you want to see
[06:16] <adarsha> Dr_Willis: yeah, but vpn connections are locked. i'm not able to edit them!
[06:16] <brjann> herbero: okay, it's like this. since it's software raid, it needs a driver loaded before it can actually read the raid partitions, right?
[06:16] <herbero> brjann: ya
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> adarsha: i dont see how thats related.   Unless your setting root password Broke somthing. I dont haver mine set.. and i can change them with my initial user.
[06:17] <adarsha> Dr_Willis: can i fix it?
[06:17] <theadmin> Dr_Willis: Same on my comp, strangeness
[06:17] <evan0116> so i unplugged my floppy drive to make room for internal dvd, but icon for floppy still shows up in ubuntu, how can i delete this?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> adarsha:  no idea why its broke so cant tell.
[06:17] <adarsha> Dr_Willis: ok.
[06:18] <brjann> herbero: so before that driver is loaded, you just have a system with two separate drives in it. the BIOS will try and boot off just one of those drives; it doesn't know anything about raid.
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> evan0116:  disable it in the bios and in /etc/fstab perhaps
[06:18] <abhi_nav> mihir: its generally the gpg key probem. you have to add that key to authenticate
[06:18] <herbero> brjann: basically I need a sda1 partition with /boot that is used as an ext3 system not a RAID device, so that it actually loads?
[06:19] <mihir> what is gpg key
[06:19] <abhi_nav> !gpg
[06:19] <evan0116> Dr_Willis: i dont have that folder, and it is already not in my bios. didnt delete it just not there
[06:19] <brjann> herbero: no -- the MBR and the first primary partition is separate. that's the distinction i'm trying to make :)
[06:19] <brjann> herbero: i wish i could draw you a picture!
[06:19] <abhi_nav> mihir: it is used to make sure that particular software or ppa or email is came from the trusted, knows, sender.
[06:19] <herbero> brjann: I suspected that is what you were getting at, but how do I add /boot if there is no partition?
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> evan0116:  /etc/fstab is a file that lists all devices  - there may be anentry in it for the floppy
[06:20] <evan0116> oh so i open it with gedit then? i thought it was a folder, sry
[06:20] <Dr_Willis> !fstab | evan0116
[06:20] <Curly_Q> Would it be that with ssh that the type of encryption is crucial with let's say twofish or blowfish and if the  ssh server allows acces what is the problem?
[06:21] <brjann> herbero: grub and initrd -> MBR of /dev/sda. /boot = /dev/md1 = array of /dev/sda1, /dev/sdb1. /root = /dev/md2 = array of /dev/sda2, /dev/sdb2.
[06:21] <inja> does any one know how to enable the numlock?
[06:22] <te_> inja: Bios setting
[06:22] <mihir> i am installing it from synaptic package manager and with each software it requires some dependent files which are not authenticated without installing that files software doesn´t work.
[06:22] <evan0116> Dr_Willis: this is in the bottom of the file. do i just delete the last line? /dev/scd0       /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[06:22] <evan0116> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[06:22] <herbero> brjann: okay, but I am at a partition editor from install disk...so I can change /boot and grub to recognize the RAID setup after the fact
[06:22] <inja> you have to go to bios to unlock the numlock
[06:22] <herbero> brjann: right?
[06:22] <te_> !numlock | inja
[06:22] <Curly_Q> Inja, in the CMOS setup just boot then whether it is  DEL command or whatever F2  enable it. Or disable it.
[06:24] <Losha> Curly_Q: are you trying to say your ssh isn't working?
[06:24] <mihir> can virus corrupt ubuntu operating system like windows
[06:24] <brjann> herbero: if /boot is raided, grub must be set up with an initrd that understands raid or the system will not boot properly. if /boot is not raided, you don't need the initrd, and the kernel will be able to see the other raided partitions just fine.
[06:25] <tingi> i've 3 ftp clients ( 2 packages, 1 custom written), i need to find out when transferring 3 GB video files which one takes least load on CPU and is suggested for other applications to run smoothly. How do i test this ?
[06:25] <bazhang> mihir, no
[06:25] <Curly_Q> Losha it works but I get the access denied when trying to edit the index.html file.
[06:25] <Dracoslayer16> All the instructions I find for Ubuntu are lines of code, where do I enter code in Ubuntu?
[06:25] <Ritlee> Dracoslayer16, in the console
[06:26] <mihir> i am installing it from synaptic package manager and with each software it requires some dependent files which are not authenticated without installing that files software doesn´t work.
[06:26] <Curly_Q> Even when trying to enter the directory, I cannot get in.
[06:26] <Ritlee> Dracoslayer16, select applications / accessories / terminal
[06:26] <herbero> brjann: gotcha, so the actively synced RAID seems easier to me to have /boot off of the RAID that way I don't have to configure and if RAID or hd goes down then I still have /boot
[06:27] <racerd> what is the latest nvidia driver version?
[06:27] <Losha> Curly_Q: that's usually a separate permissions problem. What user are you logging in as?
[06:27] <Curly_Q> I am using SSH from A Windows Box, in which that doesn't mean anything at this point because I have done this before with much ease. It is that Ubuntu or the latest ssh may not work but I see no reason for that because if I have passage into the box, then it is not the ssh client or server but the permissions.
[06:27] <racerd> is it 185 or 190?
[06:28] <Losha> Curly_Q: what username do you supply on the windows box?
[06:28] <abhi_nav> mihir: linux is much much safer from virus compared to win
[06:28] <Curly_Q> Losha I use the only one account for that box.
[06:28] <Dracoslayer16> Thanks Ritlee
[06:28] <Curly_Q> I did a sudo as well.
[06:28] <brjann> herbero: yes, i agree it's easier to deal with if /boot is not RAID :) (certainly easier to explain!) however, it can be done, and when done properly means that you can lose a drive and still boot the system
[06:28] <Ritlee> Dracoslayer16, np
[06:29] <abhi_nav> mihir: for your info: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[06:29] <Curly_Q> If I am in the box, that means I did something right.
[06:30] <Curly_Q> I am trying to get into the directory of: /usr/share/apache2/default-site/index.html
[06:30] <evan0116> what happens if i delete a line in /etc/fstab
[06:31] <brjann> herbero: but you could get (almost) the same reliability by simply using the USB Startup Disk Creator in System > Administration once you've got the system up and running, then locking that USB key in your desk for emergency use :)
[06:31] <Losha> Curly_Q: If you are in the box, it means ssh is working. If you can't cd to a directory, or edit a file, it means the directory/file do not have execute/write permissions for that user. You may be able to fix that by running 'sudo chmod ugo+rwx <directory>'
[06:32] <Curly_Q> Losha thanks for that tip. I didn't know that it was that mission critical. I will try it.
[06:33] <herbero> brjann: interesting, so I could make an emergency /boot on a usb key? cool. I may try that, should I also scatter swap across the disks or keep it all on one?
[06:33] <Losha> evan0116: depends which line. Worst case, if you remove the root line you won't be able to boot. Make a backup of your fstab file before you go changing stuff...
[06:33] <evan0116> Losha: how do i make a backup? what command?
[06:34] <Losha> evan0116: something like: sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.bak
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> Hmm..  if you dont know how to copy a file via cp in the terminal.. You might NOT want tobe messing with fstab untill you read a bash tutorial or 2
[06:34] <Curly_Q> Losha can I do these command within the ssh session?
[06:34] <evan0116> then if something bad happens how to i restore the backup?
[06:34] <Curly_Q> commands
[06:34] <Losha> evan0116: I agree with Dr_Willis. You sound a bit out of your depth...
[06:34] <brjann> herbero: RAID 1 swap is overkill; RAID 0 swap means a disk failure would bring your system down.
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> evan0116:  with the cp command
[06:35] <evan0116> Dr_Willis: so it would be like sudo cp /etc/fstab.bak /etc/fstab
[06:35] <brjann> herbero: so the short answer is, no, you don't need to RAID your swap partition :)
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> evan0116:  yes.  It pays to learn a few bash basics however.
[06:36] <fuxximus> i got a problem
[06:36] <herbero> brjann: cool, thanks
[06:36]  * abhi_nav successfully installed grub2!!! :)
[06:36] <evan0116> Dr_Willis: k i will do that
[06:36] <Curly_Q> Greets to Dr Willis. It is nice to see you again.
[06:36] <Losha> evan0116: something like: sudo cp /etc/fstab.bak /etc/fstab. But you might need to run the live cd and mount the disk to do that...
[06:36] <fuxximus> i have only 1 user, and "is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[06:36] <Ritlee> gratz abhi_nav
[06:36] <fuxximus> how do I recover meself
[06:36] <abhi_nav> Ritlee :)
[06:36] <Curly_Q> I have been bashing my brains with Linux for a long time. Just love the challenge.
[06:36] <brjann> herbero: sure thing. sorry for my confusing explanations
[06:37] <fuxximus> help
[06:37] <evan0116> Dr_Willis: i am comfortable with apt-get and some stuff like that, but... ya. i'll find a tutorial
[06:37] <Curly_Q> Losha by the way, thanks for that information.
[06:37] <Losha> Curly_Q: I hope it helps...
[06:37] <Curly_Q> It did.
[06:37] <abhi_nav> fuxximus: only one user means most probably it wll be administrator? then you can go to system=admin=users and gruops and add yourself to sudors group
[06:37] <Curly_Q> It opened up a lot of thoughts.
[06:38] <herbero> brjann: it was not too bad ;) do you happen to have a link for that emergency boot usb, I would like tot try it?
[06:38] <hg2> hi, is this where I can get some help with audio settings problems?
[06:38] <Losha> evan0116: btw, why are you planning to delete lines from your /etc/fstab?
[06:39] <te_> evan0116: What editor did you use to delete the line in /etc/fstab?  (If you used the vi editor, there should be a backup: /etc/fstab~ )
[06:39] <ngabriel> I'm having an issue w/rsync where it always thinks the dest file does not exist and recopies it.  Anyone have issues like this?
[06:39] <ZykoticK9> hg2, if you are using Ubuntu, you've come to the right place - state your issue or ask your question :)  Personally I'm no help with sound issues, so you don't need to reply to me personally in any way.
[06:39] <brjann> herbero: it's installed by default in karmic. System > Administration > USB Startup Disk Creator
[06:39] <Curly_Q> I tell this channel all of the time and I still say this: We all need to give everyone who is faithful here a host of gratitude for sharing their knowledge here. Some do it out of conceit and some do it out of being puffed about themselves but the majority do it out of kindness. I say with all sincerity, bravo for all of those who work hard and give of themselves.
[06:39] <evan0116> Losha: i took out my floppy drive, and it fixed a boot problem. now it takes longer to boot now that it keeps looking for it
[06:40] <evan0116> te_: i usually use gedit. should i use another so that it backs up for me?
[06:40] <fuxximus> abhi_nav: i don't have the permission
[06:40] <fuxximus> abhi_nav: to change anything in there
[06:40] <Losha> evan0116: ok, in that case, it's ok to comment out the line for the floppy...
[06:41] <evan0116> Losha: comment out meaning put a # in front of the line, correct?
[06:41] <te_> evan0116: That is up to you, just sharing a bit of info, that's all.  I prefer vim and one reason is that you do not need a GUI to use it.
[06:41] <hg2> i get the following message when using sound recorder or skype: Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings. don't know where media settings are.
[06:41] <Losha> ngabriel: there's no rsync bug. It's usually because you gave it the wrong arguments. Can you tell us your command line?
[06:41] <brjann> Curly_Q: that's very nice of you to say :)
[06:41] <herbero> brjann: ah...I am runnin squeeze my karmic disks always crash
[06:41] <herbero> brjann: no matter, I can install
[06:41] <Losha> evan0116: yes, that's exactly how to do it. Make sure the # is the very first character on the line
[06:42] <evan0116> te_: which vim should i install? apt found.. vim, vim-gnome, tiny, gtk, and nox
[06:42] <evan0116> Losha: thank you will try now
[06:42] <researcher1> what is the command line to check what programs are installed on my computer?
[06:42] <Curly_Q> Thanks Brjann.
[06:42] <mihir> is there anyway to clean unnecessary files in ubuntu by GUI way
[06:42] <hipitihop> I have found the following error in my syslog, how do I debug this issue ? "kernel: [157711.412144] asterisk[12108] general protection ip:7fdcacab0ea2 sp:7fdc83153ad8 error:0 in libc-2.10.1.so[7fdcaca32000+166000]"
[06:42] <te_> evan0116: vim and vim-gnome (not sure really, but wouldn't hurt to get both.
[06:42] <Losha> evan0116: if you make a copy like I said, you can use any editor you're comfortable with, including gedit
[06:43] <te_> evan0116: and vimtutor
[06:43] <evan0116> Losha: ok, i will try vim this time
[06:43] <abhi_nav> fuxximus: sudo adduser <username> admin where username is new username
[06:43] <evan0116> te_: got it
[06:43] <brjann> !info usb-creator | herbero
[06:44] <Losha> evan0116: up to you, but I personally wouldn't edit a critical system file using an editor I wasn't familiar with, for obvious reasons...
[06:44] <abhi_nav> fuxximus: reboot go to recovery, login to root account and then do this
[06:44] <Curly_Q> Losha were you saying that even if I were in root I would have to give myself permissions to allow myself into a directory?
[06:44] <evan0116> te_: !! 35.7 MB for vim and vim-gnome :/
[06:44] <mr-grey2> Is there an bug fix so that when you plug headphones into the headphone jack, sound won't come out of the laptop speakers too? I can't find a fix for it. I opened up the alsamixer from terminal and other methods but can't figure out a method
[06:44] <evan0116> Losha: good point
[06:45] <te_> evan0116: Then just get vim
[06:45] <hg2> anybody can help with sound problem, multimedia settings?
[06:45] <Losha> Curly_Q: if you were root, in theory, you should have no permissions problems, unless the file is on a networked volume, where sometimes even root can't edit stuff...
[06:45] <te_> !sound |hg2
[06:46] <researcher1> :-[
[06:46] <Losha> Curly_Q: Actually, I think directories need execute permission to be entered, even if you are root...
[06:47] <bullgard> Synaptic: "package linux-doc: Linux kernel specific documentation for version 2.6.31. --  package linux-source-2.6.31: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.31 with Ubuntu patches." So is linux-source-2.6.31 a superset of linux-doc and I can delete linux-doc if I have linux-source-2.6.31 installed?
[06:47] <Curly_Q> Losha I have had that problem a few years back with Red Hat. I was refused permissions even as root. I had the hardest time trying to figure out why that was so. A computer Linux expert said to me that because even though you are root, you are restricted in your behavior as root and that was a security measure.
[06:47] <theadmin> Losha: You are right on that, same about progs, to execute them, they need to be +x
[06:48] <Losha> Curly_Q: so what are the directory's permissions?
[06:48] <Losha> theadmin: thanks
[06:48] <Curly_Q> Honestly I don't know. I have been working on this for a few days now.
[06:49] <te_> Curly_Q: http://www.zzee.com/solutions/linux-permissions.shtml
[06:49] <kevbo> hi.. I have a problem getting my wireless set up :(
[06:49] <ZykoticK9> Curly_Q, "ls -ld /path/to/directory"
[06:49] <Losha> Curly_Q: Oh. Can't you ssh in and ls -l <directory> ?
[06:49] <hg2> thanks ubottu. i'll try links
[06:49] <Curly_Q> I am a bit rusty with this because I have been inundated with data recovery problems with Windows.
[06:49] <Curly_Q> Use the PIPE command?
[06:50] <xim_> whats another linux browser besides firefox
[06:50] <Losha> Curly_Q: no problem. We're here to support people....
[06:50] <ZykoticK9> xim_, chromium is a good alternative
[06:50] <xim_> zykty
[06:50] <abhi_nav> !browser
[06:51] <mr-grey2> i;m diggin linux but damn you gotta be a programmer to fix a simple problem lol i guess I was broght up the lazy way point an click plug and play lmao
[06:51] <xim_> ah cool
[06:52] <te_> mr-grey2: What are you trying to do?
[06:52] <xim_> mr-grey2, yeah keep in mind linux wasnt made by one group trying to make something that works together it was made from 50 million little components made by different people integrated by other people
[06:52] <xim_> i think that has alot to do with it
[06:52] <kevbo> I have been following this guide: http://swiss.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1266620 to ger my wireless set up.. unfortunately I think it requires an ethernet connection. I only have wireless bc I am in an apartment complex
[06:52] <te_> mr-grey2: Sometimes there are pointy-clicky ways and cli ways as well.
[06:53] <mcurran> kevbo - type "lspci | grep '802.11'" and post output here
[06:53] <te_> mr-grey2: Well, not sometimes, but usually
[06:53] <abhi_nav> what is linux alternate for tracert?
[06:53] <mcurran> traceroute
[06:54] <kevbo> is it going to be long? lol I'm on my android phone
[06:54] <mr-grey2> te_ for some reasion I have sound spittin out of my speakers on the laptop when I insert headphones into the jack. I tried a method I read on a fourm about adjusting the alsamixer from the terminal, rebooting with headphones plugged in but ubuntu is not catching or detecting that the jack is in use and continues to play the sound from speakers as well as headphones
[06:54] <mcurran> sound is always picky in most distros
[06:54] <mr-grey2> I'm loving linux, i'm just extremly new and do not now my way around it yet.
[06:55] <mcurran> go to system sound gui and play around with different drivers
[06:55] <mr-grey2> know
[06:55] <mcurran> alsa , pulseaudio , etc.
[06:56] <kevbo> what I'm mainly having trouble with is the fact that I need to execute "git clone http://....../b43-tools.git" , but I don't have internet and when I put the url in windows it comes up as a folder
[06:56] <brjann> mr-grey2: laptop doesn't happen to be a lenovo, does it?
[06:56] <Curly_Q> Tracert is a universal command.
[06:57] <mr-grey2> i didnt see alsa pulseaudio etc in the gui but i messed with all the other settings in the settings gui
[06:57] <kevbo> is there a way to download the git file onto windows and then installing it on ubuntu?
[06:57] <mr-grey2> nah it's an HP nc6230 I saw the bug  for that on a fourm
[06:57] <abhi_nav> is there is hacking channel?
[06:58] <Curly_Q> You can try traceroute
[06:58] <abhi_nav> Curly_Q mcurran: ok thnx
[06:58] <bazhang> abhi_nav, no unless you mean hacking the kernel
[06:58] <te_> abhi_nav:  This is it.
[06:59] <theadmin> Is there any difference between "init 0", "shutdown -h now" and "halt"?
[06:59] <te_> abhi_nav: /join #linux
[06:59] <te_> theadmin: Yes
[06:59] <theadmin> te_ What is it
[06:59] <Curly_Q> Why do you need to a tracert Abhl?
[07:00] <abhi_nav> Cutly_Q actually I want to know the ip and location of a specific user of hi5.com - not the ip and location of hi5.com
[07:00] <te_> theadmin: Just try it and see.
[07:00] <kevbo> how do I download a git file from the net in windows? apparently I need b43-tools.git before I can get internet working in ubuntu..
[07:01] <theadmin> te_ All 3 shut the system down for me :D
[07:01] <airtonix> kevbo, there is a portable git package for windows
[07:01] <researcher1> How can we see page full listing of files with "ls" command?
[07:01] <Curly_Q> Well, using a PING or tracert or traceroute checks the HOPS of the destination protocol.
[07:02] <airtonix> kevbo, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/678085/how-to-run-git-1-6-x-for-windows-from-a-usb-memory-stick
[07:02] <te_> researcher1: ls -l
[07:02] <kevbo> !! thanks!
[07:02] <ZykoticK9> researcher1, if you mean "a page at a time" you can pipe to more or less, like "ls | less"
[07:02] <researcher1> thanks kevbo
[07:02] <abhi_nav> Curly_Q: you know any better way to get ip and location?
[07:02] <researcher1> thanks te_
[07:02] <Curly_Q> It also tells you if the IP address is on the internet.
[07:02] <airtonix> kevbo, also : offtopic (although i realise #windows isn't a support channel compared to this one)
[07:02] <abhi_nav> Curly_Q: hmm
[07:02] <te_> abhi_nav: Is it on your lan?
[07:03] <abhi_nav> te_no no on lan. on the internet
[07:03] <te_> abhi_nav: nmap -p22 <IP_ADDRESS>/24
[07:03] <mr-grey2> hehe i go to mono anolog and it mutes everything :)
[07:03] <bullgard> Synaptic: "package linux-doc: Linux kernel specific documentation for version 2.6.31. --  package linux-source-2.6.31: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.31 with Ubuntu patches." So is linux-source-2.6.31 a superset of linux-doc and I can delete linux-doc if I have linux-source-2.6.31 installed?
[07:03] <abhi_nav> te_ if you mean lan by same isp then yes he has same isp
[07:03] <brjann> theadmin: if not called with the --force option, halt simply invokes shutdown. init 0 doesn't necessarily *have* to halt the system; it just runs the scripts that are assigned to runlevel 0.
[07:03] <kevbo> researcher1 are you a member of a forum with the initials hfc?
[07:04] <te_> abhi_nav: by LAN I mean Local Area Network.
[07:04] <Curly_Q> Abhl, that is a sticky topic. NMAP is a good tool but I don't like to discuss that here because, it borderlines stalking.
[07:04] <Guest77419> Hi all
[07:04] <theadmin> brjann: And the "shutdown -h"?\
[07:04] <Rishi1> Hi all
[07:05] <abhi_nav> te_ ok
[07:05] <mr-grey2> I know you all are busy but how do i access the audio drivers like alsamixer and pulsaudio
[07:05] <abhi_nav> Curly_Q: can you point me to some guides or howtos etc etc
[07:05] <gods> how do i connect my scanned to the desktop
[07:05] <Curly_Q> What is your ultimate goal in knowing this Abhl?
[07:06] <te_> mr-grey2: The kernel accesses the driver modules for you.
[07:06] <brjann> theadmin: shutdown is basically a wrapper around init 0 that adds nice things like time delays, reboot, login disabling, etc
[07:06] <theadmin> brjann: I see
[07:06] <te_> theadmin: see:  man shutdown
[07:06] <abhi_nav> Curly_Q as I said I want to know the ip and location of one specific user. He has done some suspicious activity(its long story)
[07:06] <Rishi1> Can somebody tell me how to see the other users display connected to same machine...
[07:06] <Rishi1> I have 5 users running on thin clients and one server..
[07:06] <Rishi1> W command shows me the user names and their tty eg. tty14 tty19.. How can I watch their desktops in this scenario
[07:06] <Rishi1> Thnx in advance
[07:07] <FloodBot3> Rishi1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:07] <te_> theadmin: see:  man halt
[07:07] <kevbo> I'm sorry.. maybe I messed up when I typed this. what I'm trying to do is download a git file on windows so I can transfer it to ubuntu, because ubuntu had no internet
[07:07] <abhi_nav> Curly_Q and only the thing I have is www.hi5.com/friend/(here the name of hte user)
[07:07] <theadmin> te_: Will take a look when i go back to Ubuntu
[07:07] <te_> Rishi1: who
[07:07] <airtonix> kevbo, did you see the link i posted ?
[07:07] <Rishi1> hi te_
[07:07] <kevbo>  yeah
[07:07] <mr-grey2> I tried running pulseaudio and thats already in use it says.. I was able to run the alsamixer in terminal and attempt to adjust the bar levels in hopes to eliminate the problem but with no luck
[07:07] <airtonix> kevbo, so did you download mysgit ?
[07:07] <bjj_blue> Hi!  I'm trying to auto-start a java .jar application using the command "java -jar /path/to/file.jar", but I'd like it to start minimized.  Is there a way to do this?
[07:07] <gods> can some one help me to connect my scanner to the desktop
[07:07] <Curly_Q> I cannot help you Abhi because I would be complicitous in your wanting to either get even with that person or just being angry with that person.j
[07:08] <airtonix> kevbo, http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/downloads/list
[07:08] <bjj_blue> starting it below other apps is also fine
[07:08] <FireCrotch> Rishi1: assuming that you're root, you can use x11vnc
[07:08] <kevbo> maybe I'm missing something lol i thought that was for running the git files in windows
[07:08] <theadmin> bjj_blue: If it has some CLI arguments, yes, but otherwise, no
[07:08] <airtonix> kevbo, you dont 'run' git files
[07:08] <kevbo> sorry
[07:08] <claws> is it possible for me to mount a iso file ?
[07:08] <bjj_blue> theadmin:  no workaround if there are no CLI arguments?  Also, I assume CLI arguments would be in the manpage, right?
[07:08] <ZykoticK9> !iso | claws
[07:09] <theadmin> bjj_blue: If it has one, then yes.
[07:09] <airtonix> kevbo, the terminology you want there is that : you access 'git' repositories
[07:09] <abhi_nav> Curly_Q: wll help me after I pay your?
[07:09] <abhi_nav> you*
[07:09] <Rishi1> FireCrotch: but how do I specify the display in it ?
[07:09] <bazhang> abhi_nav, what are you trying to do
[07:09] <bjj_blue> theadmin:  do you think something like alltray woudl work?
[07:09] <kevbo> well i don't need to access it from windows.. maybe I'm still confused
[07:09] <abhi_nav> bazhang I want to know the ip and location of one specific user. He has done some suspicious activity(its long story)
[07:09] <Moat> how do i run perl scripts?
[07:10] <abhi_nav> bazhang: on hi5.com
[07:10] <FireCrotch> Rishi1: x11vnc -d :0    (where :0 is their X display number
[07:10] <claws> ZykoticK9 : thank u :)
[07:10] <airtonix> kevbo, i refer you to your intial message : <kevbo> how do I download a git file from the net in windows? apparently I need b43-tools.git before I can get internet working in ubuntu..
[07:10] <kevbo> so confused
[07:10] <theadmin> bjj_blue: What on earth is alltray
[07:10] <bazhang> abhi_nav, hack his account? abhi_nav that is not supported here, nor on freenode. Please stop asking for assistance with it
[07:10] <FireCrotch> Rishi1: Then you have to use a vnc viewer to view the vnc display
[07:10] <bjj_blue> theadmin:  i'm not exactly sure... i keep hearing people mention it as a possible workaround.  it apparently confines apps to the systray, or something.  I just wondered if you'd heard of it
[07:10] <abhi_nav> Curly_Q: i konw going on WAR after knowin the info. I just want that person. I have doubt on three persons
[07:10] <bjj_blue> theadmin:  in any case, thanks for the help
[07:11] <abhi_nav> bazhang: i dont want to hack. i want to know ip ony
[07:11] <bazhang> abhi_nav, please stop NOW
[07:11] <airtonix> kevbo, to access a 'git' repository in windows you need a 'git' client. http://code.google.com/p/msysgit/downloads/list << is the easiest method of getting a git client on windows so you can access a git repository and download files from it
[07:11] <abhi_nav> bazhang: ok :(
[07:11] <mr-grey2> woo this os is a mind workout i'm tellin u
[07:12] <airtonix> mr-grey2, blah blah freedom blah blah responsibility
[07:12] <kevbo> ok.. I may be wrong. I'm trying to install drivers. the website for what I'm following is http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#fw-b43-lp
[07:13] <airtonix> kevbo, maybe you should try going the ndiswrapper first so you have wifi working ?
[07:13] <mr-grey2> lol airtonix I like it though... keeps me thinking
[07:13] <airtonix> kevbo, a game of tetris a day keeps the psychologist away
[07:13] <airtonix> ...
[07:14] <kevbo> well.. I will admit that may be right, but I have the broadcom 4312 rev 01 which many seen to be having a lot of trouble with
[07:15] <kevbo> and people have said that is the easiest fix?
[07:15] <airtonix> kevbo, i have that one too. mine doubles as a bluetooth device too.
[07:15] <kevbo> and I an a psychologist :p so its kind of moot
[07:15] <Curly_Q> Bazhang thanks.   :)
[07:15] <bazhang> Curly_Q, :)
[07:15] <airtonix> kevbo, the b43 driver didn't work for me though... only ndis wrapper method worked for me.
[07:16] <airtonix> kevbo, is it a laptop/netbook or dekstop machine ?
[07:16] <chai1> anyone want to try out "share my desktop" if you have empathy
[07:17] <chai1> i will share
[07:17] <Curly_Q> What amazes me Bazhang is that there are approximately 1315 members on this channel. To see comments that are blatent are outrageous.
[07:17] <bullgard> Synaptic: "package linux-doc: Linux kernel specific documentation for version 2.6.31. --  package linux-source-2.6.31: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.31 with Ubuntu patches." So does linux-source-2.6.31 contain a superset of linux-doc? Can I delete linux-doc if I have linux-source-2.6.31 installed?
[07:18] <kevbo> laptop
[07:18] <kevbo> it is the x64 version as well
[07:18] <airtonix> kevbo, you should head over to the laptop manufacturers website and grab the windows drivers for the wifi card then.
[07:19] <crackguy> could somebody give me a source to learn about dns for newbies
[07:19] <theadmin> crackguy: I might be of some help, what exactly do you want to know?
[07:19] <distatica> kevbo: I've got the same card on a Lenovo s10e, just installed, no wireless. I'm actually wondering if there is a way to enable restricted drivers from command line, since I don't have gnome intalled.
[07:19] <airtonix> kevbo, but back to your initial question... have you actually done the git clone step of that page you linked to me ?
[07:20] <distatica> This was working fine in ubuntu netbook remix, which I just scrapped.
[07:20] <crackguy> theadmin, i don't really know what am I looking for, just wanna start from basic (os independent knowledge)
[07:21] <airtonix> distatica, have you tried the ndiswrapper method ?
[07:21] <kevbo> no, because I assume you need the internet to do it
[07:21] <airtonix> kevbo, and i assumed (since you mentioned doing this step in windows) that you have access to a machine which has internet access
[07:21] <Curly_Q> Crackguy, simply put, a DNS (Domain Name Server) is just like a telephone book. When you log onto the internet and lookup an IP address or use HTML, it looks basically for an address. The DNS server has all of the telephone numbers or IP addresses and forwards them to your computer.
[07:21] <Moat> how do i run perl script?
[07:21] <kevbo> that's where I hit a wall
[07:22] <brjann> crackguy: I'm not trying to be glib, but wikipedia's article on DNS is pretty comprehensive
[07:22] <theadmin> crackguy: Well, DNS servers have "records", basically of following type, A = assigning a hostname to IP adress. AAAAAA = Assigning a hostname to IPv6 adress, MX = assigning a mail server to the hostname, and CNAME =  making a hostname a clone of another domain
[07:22] <theadmin> Moat: perl somefile
[07:22] <kevbo> I have windows 7 on the same laptop
[07:22] <crackguy> cool
[07:23] <airtonix> kevbo, so back to my initial repsonse : download and install msysgit on your windows machine that has internet access... then do the "git clone " stage on the page you linked to me on the windows machine...
[07:23] <iflema> kevbo theres a restricted driver for your card on the install cd of 9.10+
[07:23] <Cappy> can someone point me in the direction of some info about resizing partitions within ubuntu?
[07:23] <kevbo> ?
[07:24] <crackguy> am a linux enthusiast, installed ubuntu and gave up on it several times.. i basically want to do something on it.. i know it sounds silly that i've no idea what am looking for but i want to feel the difference being a windows user for years and now switching to linux
[07:24] <abhi_nav> Cappy: use gparted
[07:24] <brjann> !partitioning > Cappy
[07:24] <airtonix> iflema, indeed, kevbo you will need to add the cd as a "software source" in the gui tool found at : system > admin > software sources
[07:25] <kevbo> airtonix I didn't know much about git "repositories" at the time :p I'll give it a shot
[07:25] <kevbo> I did add the cd
[07:25] <lifestream> I have a really stupid question. If you right click your window border, it will give you the Window Menu.    Even if you set the border to 0px, it still does that.  Now, how do I disable that? I just lost 2 hrs of work because I accidentaly clicked [x]Close, because my mouse right button clicked the border.
[07:25] <iflema> airtonix no
[07:25] <airtonix> iflema, then i'll let you describe the process
[07:26] <iflema> !broadcom | kevbo
[07:26] <xangua> lifestream: you don't want widow borders¿
[07:26] <brjann> Cappy: darn, I thought that factoid had more info on gparted. My mistake. this should be more informative: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/resize/resizing.htm
[07:26] <lifestream> xangua,  does it matter either way? I just DONT want the menu to show up either way
[07:27] <kevbo> iflema , what? lol
[07:28] <kevbo> oh wait lol
[07:28] <kevbo> I installed bcmwl kernel source already
[07:29] <mr-grey2> Kubuntu/Xubuntu  and ubuntu, is there really a big diffrence of the three? I heard that one of those versions could help my issue and I do not need to blow away my system to one, just add the extra packages
[07:29] <Bede> mr-grey2 They're the same under the surface, but have different look and feel.
[07:29] <Bede> If you've got one installed, installing another is easy
[07:29] <claws_> guys...i cannot install .. cuz it says somethin about no write permission on the instal directory..
[07:30] <Bede> Just do: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop (or whatever version), then you can choose your flavour at boot-up time
[07:30] <Curly_Q> Crackguy, I have felt the same way for years. I am an expert with Windows and with Linux, I am always learning because Linux and Windows are two separate beasts. Windows is not open source which makes it more difficulty when Linux is open source, that makes it more usable with the intellectual community knowing how to program and compile software which means "Open Source"
[07:30] <mr-grey2> Bede: Thank you. I heard that those two do not use pulseaudio and that could be causing my audio problems. I have nothing going on tonight and this drive is a linux test for me to learn anyhow hehe
[07:30] <kevbo> when I activate the driver, it doesn't do anything
[07:30] <crackguy> Curly_Q, I am not a coder, is linux still for me?
[07:31] <kevbo> even if I restart
[07:31] <Curly_Q> Sure it is.
[07:31] <Bede> mr-grey2: good luck! They're all good versions - I hope you find one that works for you
[07:31] <srini> how to configurre the local repo for apt-mirror??
[07:31] <distatica> kevbo: did you try the BCM43xx drivers? I was jut about to try that
[07:31] <digital_1> ok grub2 has got to be more dual-boot friendly
[07:31] <Bede> mr-grey2: When I used to use Kubuntu, I did without pulseaudio, although it was there as an option.
[07:31] <kevbo> which ones?
[07:32] <kevbo> the bcmwk kernel source?
[07:32] <distatica> on that link iflema got sent
[07:32] <distatica> no, scroll own
[07:32] <distatica> down even
[07:32] <Moat> is there a program that will run perl script when i click on it?
[07:32] <fabio> soory, i can have italian link chat?
[07:32] <distatica> Installing BCM43xx drivers
[07:32] <kevbo> b43 fw cutter?
[07:32] <distatica> yeah
[07:32] <Curly_Q> Crackguy be a good listener and see how the Linux community works together asking questions and answering them. You will enjoy it. Never be discouraged.
[07:33] <mr-grey2> Bede: Thanks again, I'll try and install one. just have to decide on xubuntu or kubuntu.. Something easy since I'm a noob lol
[07:33] <digital_1> For dual boot setups, every time there is a new kernel added to the boot menu after an update, it messes up the order of my default OS to boot.  Then you have to go in an change it every time.  Is there a better way?
[07:33] <distatica> kevbo: unless you have a good reason not to, I'm going ot give that a shot.
[07:33] <Bede> mr-grey2: Overall, you'll find xubuntu simpler. KDE is great, but much more customizable and fiddly, I'd say
[07:34] <kevbo> no I guess not. I don't have internet access so im not sure what "set up manually l means
[07:34] <Moat> is there a program that will run perl script when i click on it?
[07:34] <abhi_nav> !grub | degital_1
[07:34] <fabio> I have a problem with networkmanager of ubuntu
[07:34] <mkquist> xangua: did you get ur answer
[07:34] <mr-grey2> like making menus melt when you close them Bede? lol
[07:35] <abhi_nav> fabio: #ubuntu-it
[07:35] <digital_1> !grub2
[07:35] <chai1> how can i change the default font size for chat messages in empathy?
[07:35] <kevbo> t definitely let me know how it works.. I've been trying to figure it out for 8 hours
[07:35] <Bede> mr-grey2: Ha! No, I like Compiz for that. I used Kubuntu for about a year and loved it, but I'd certainly start with gnome or XFCE if you're quite new to linux
[07:35] <kemutug> hallloo
[07:35] <abhi_nav> hi
[07:35] <kemutug> siapa yang bisa bahasa indomnesia
[07:36] <bazhang> !id | kemutug
[07:36] <distatica> kevbo: will do
[07:36] <kemutug> iam from indonesia
[07:36] <Cappy> thanks brajann
[07:36] <bazhang> kemutug, /join #ubuntu-id
[07:36] <Curly_Q> Bede the downfall of Gnome is that it uses lots of System Resources. That slows down the server just on the GUI side. Consider that.
[07:36] <digital_1> Gnome is just clean and simple and out of the way.
[07:36] <mr-grey2> Bede: is Compiz a program to enhance your desktop like windowblinds for microsoft?
[07:36] <kemutug> tidak teman disana pak
[07:36] <digital_1> mr-grey2 yes
[07:36] <digital_1> but way more
[07:37] <abhi_nav> kemutug: /join #ubuntu-id
[07:37] <distatica> kevbo: brb
[07:37] <Bede> mr-grey2: Yes, that's right. Many people use it with Gnome. Gnome can be a little heavy on resources; if you have a problem with that then you'll probably like XFCE
[07:37] <Curly_Q> The best servers don'
[07:37] <Curly_Q> Don't use GUI.
[07:37] <Moat> how do i run perl scripts?
[07:38] <Bede> Curly-Q: I don't think we were talking about servers! I think Mr-grey2 was asking about a non-server use
[07:38] <Cappy> hrmm anyone able to tell me how to resize a mounted /home partition
[07:38] <abhi_nav> Cappy: ??
[07:38] <abhi_nav> Cappy you ddnt read about how to use gparted?
[07:38] <digital_1> Moat, can't you mark them as executables?
[07:39] <Moat> how?
[07:39] <Curly_Q> Bede the point is that GUI is a pig on system resources. Whether server or non-server. It all can be done without a GUI.
[07:39] <mr-grey2> Yeah just personal use learning how to navagate linux yet still look wicked lol
[07:39] <Cappy> abhi_nav, i did, but i can only find info about resizing a windows partition
[07:39] <abhi_nav> Cappy: have you installed gparted? install it
[07:40] <Bede> Curly-Q - sure, but many people like it
[07:40] <mr-grey2> I stumbled across ubuntu "satanic edition" on a website lol
[07:40] <Bede> Curly-Q - each to their own!
[07:40] <Moat> how do i run perl scripts?
[07:40] <abhi_nav> Cappy: it has gui. you wll easly know how to use it
[07:40] <Curly_Q> If you need a GUI it can be done remotely through SSH and with a remote GUI. That makes your server run fast and more efficient.
[07:40] <damian> wondering how to remove a theme from firefox from outside of the program, I'd go on the internet to look it up...but the only browser I have is firefox X_x
[07:40] <Bede> mr-grey2: Ha! I suppose it's a response to the christian edition?
[07:40] <mr-grey2> Bede lol indeed it is
[07:40] <mkquist> Cappy: you dont resize mounted partitions
[07:41] <Cappy> abhi_nav, i've installed it, and yes i see how to use it, but it WONT let me resize the drive because its not mounted, and it wont let me unmount it
[07:41] <Moat> how do i run perl scripts?
[07:41] <Curly_Q> It has nothing to do with each to his own. It has to do with system resources and how it is manages.
[07:41] <Curly_Q> managed.
[07:41] <Bede> Moat: Have you tried chmod +x <filename>  ?
[07:41] <Moat> yes
[07:41] <chai1> where are applications stored in ubuntu?
[07:41] <chai1> like what directory?
[07:41] <Bede> Curly-Q - so you're telling everyone here not to use a GUI?
[07:41] <Moat> is there a program that runs perl scripts for me?
[07:41] <abhi_nav> Cappy: you have ubuntu livecd? go to livecd. gparted is there already. you can unmount home from livecd. and then use gparted
[07:42] <Moat> is there a program that runs perl scripts for me?
[07:42] <Curly_Q> No.
[07:42] <Curly_Q> Not at all.
[07:42] <Moat> thats worthless then
[07:42] <digital_1> In Ubuntu, I think you just create the *.pl file and then give it execute permission by right-clicking on the file --> Properties--> And allow running as executable
[07:42] <Curly_Q> But remotely you can use a GUI but not use it on your server.
[07:42] <abhi_nav> digital_1: chmod +x filename
[07:42] <Bede> Curly-Q - then I don't understand what's you're saying. Totally agree that GUIs use resources, and they're not ideal for servers, but don't get what you're saying
[07:43] <damian> cant you just run perl scripts from shell? perl filename.pl?
[07:43] <claws_> guys...i cannot install .. cuz it says somethin about no write permission on the instal directory..
[07:43] <digital_1> abhi_nav:  I stay out of the terminal whenver I can.  lol
[07:43] <claws_> help plz
[07:43] <abhi_nav> digital_1: :)
[07:43] <abhi_nav> !details | claws
[07:43] <Curly_Q> Read what I said again. If you ssh into your box and don't use a GUI on your box but use a remote box, then the resources are used on the remote box.
[07:43] <ZykoticK9> claws_, what are you installing?  Sounds like you need to run the installer with sudo.
[07:44] <Bede> Curly-Q - I'm sorry, I think we're talking at cross-purposes. I was talking to someone about using Xubuntu or Kubuntu; nothing to do with remote access. Sorry if I've got the wrong end of the stick
[07:44] <claws_> ZykoticK9 : its a sid meiers game :)
[07:45] <Moat> how do i run php script?
[07:45] <ZykoticK9> claws_, so you are using wine.  what game?
[07:45] <digital_1> Moat what distro / ver are you using anyhow?
[07:45] <Moat> ubuntu 9.10
[07:45] <Curly_Q> I use Kubuntu here. I use a remote box for the GUI when logging into the Linux box. I don't need  GUI on the linux box if I am using a Windows box to see what is going on if I need a GUI.
[07:46] <claws_> ZykoticK9 : Alpha Centauri.. its for linux :)
[07:46] <effigy> i keep getting this error in alert "the update information is outdated.  this may be caused by network problems or by a repository that is no longer..." the only suggestion i can find is to change the repository server, but that doesn't seem to be fixing it
[07:46] <effigy> anyone got a suggestion?  been trying google for a while
[07:46] <ZykoticK9> claws_, isn't that pretty old?  it might not work anymore.  but try to start the installer with "sudo ./$whatinstalleriscalled"
[07:46] <digital_1> Then for me, I just create the HelloWorld.pl file, mark it as executable and it just runs when I execute the file name.
[07:47] <Moat> i'm tryna run a perl script in terminal but all that happens is that terminal closes just as i open it
[07:48] <digital_1> Trying something simple in a text file marked as executable
[07:48] <digital_1> For instance, just add this:     perl -e 'print "perl version is: $]\n";'
[07:48] <digital_1> That should print out the version
[07:48] <digital_1> or not
[07:49] <digital_1> is our beloved 10.04 going to finally get some decent eyecandy?
[07:49] <damian> anyone know how to undo a firefox theme from outside of the program? The one I installed is messed up majorly and cant do it from within the program or search the web to find the solution for it. I'm using firefox 3.6
[07:49] <bullgard> Synaptic: "package linux-doc: Linux kernel specific documentation for version 2.6.31. --  package linux-source-2.6.31: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.31 with Ubuntu patches." So does linux-source-2.6.31 contain a superset of linux-doc? Can I delete linux-doc if I have linux-source-2.6.31 installed?
[07:50] <ZykoticK9> digital_1, ubuntu+1 for lucid talk, but new themes today!  buttons on left side which seems to be make many people unhappy (they can be moved however)
[07:50] <digitalfiz> whats the best way to install apache+php so that each script thats run on the website is run under that specific user in ubuntu?
[07:51] <sir_lewk> does ubuntu have 'iniparser' packaged and in it's repos?
[07:51] <digital_1> Thanks ZykoticK9.  I'm anxious to see it.
[07:51] <damian> I tried the firefox channel but am not getting a response and havent for awhile now :(
[07:51] <claws_> ZykoticK9 : how do i list my drives?
[07:51] <ZykoticK9> claws_, "sudo fdisk -l" will show your HDs
[07:51] <iceroot> digital_1: there is an option in php.ini for that but using www-data is a much better solution
[07:51] <digital_1> I'm assuming you googled it Damian?
[07:51] <sir_lewk> I don't use ubuntu, but I'm developing some software I want to make sure ubuntu users will easily be able to build
[07:52] <abhi_nav> sir_lewk: which software?
[07:52] <damian> I can't digital, the theme messed up my firefox, I see stright through the main window to the desktop, and can even click on the desktop icons....definatly a new experience for me
[07:53] <claws_> how do i get into my home directory ?
[07:53] <digital_1> ahhh
[07:53] <iceroot> claws_: cd
[07:53] <abhi_nav> cd /home/username
[07:53] <ZykoticK9> sir_lewk, could iniparser go by a different name?  searches for iniparser and ini-parser show nothing.
[07:53] <iceroot> abhi_nav: just cd
[07:53] <digitalfiz> iceroot, im sure its not as easy as putting something in the php.ini and the reason I want the scripts to run as the user is so that my scripts(wordpress) can modify and upload files. cpanel does this I just need to know the proper method
[07:53] <sir_lewk> no, not that I know of :/
[07:53] <digital_1> run it in safe mode
[07:53] <abhi_nav> iceroot: ok
[07:53] <sir_lewk> abhi_nav: I'm writing a roguelike for the rec.games.roguelike.development 7drl challenge
[07:54] <digital_1> start it from the command line with something like firefox -safe-mode
[07:54] <abhi_nav> sir_lewk: give me the full url. i have never heard about that game
[07:54] <digital_1> see if that works Damian
[07:55] <sir_lewk> http://roguebasin.roguelikedevelopment.org/index.php?title=7DRL
[07:56] <sir_lewk> a game like nethack or rogue, only writtin in 7 days.  nothing huge or professional
[07:56] <digital_1> anyone running World of Warcraft on Wine on 64-bit with > 4gb ram?
[07:56] <iceroot> digital_1: yes, running fine
[07:57] <iceroot> digital_1: but wow is a  32bit application
[07:57] <digital_1> iceroot : do you ever get out of memory crashes?
[07:57] <abhi_nav> sir_lewk: everything goes over my head. but i wll try to know
[07:57] <iceroot> digital_1: never had crashes
[07:57] <damian> Thanks Digital :) It worked like a charm.
[07:57] <digital_1> Glad it worked Damian
[07:58] <Curly_Q> Digital, yes, just add more memory.  ;-)
[07:58] <digital_1> iceroot : there was some bug where running 64-bit WINE on 64-bit Linux caused WoW to progressively allocate more and more ram until it exhausted the memory.
[07:58] <iceroot> !info wine jaunty
[07:58] <digital_1> I had to move to Cedega to get around it but I would really like to go back to Wine
[07:59] <iceroot> digital_1: 1.0.1 dont have that bug
[07:59] <claws_> ZykoticK9 : i typed... sudo ./$setup.sh. it say the command not found
[07:59] <digital_1> iceroot:  thanks maybe I can try that again.
[07:59] <iceroot> digital_1: and cadega is nothing else then picking the right wine version for a application
[07:59] <ZykoticK9> claws_, sorry the $ was just to show it was a variable, use "sudo ./setup.sh"
[08:00] <digital_1> iceroot : i wasn't sure if they modified or forked Wine somehow.
[08:00] <iceroot> digital_1: if i am correct, cadega is not patching wine, just using the correct wine-version and config for a specific windows-program (its looking at somwthing like appdb)
[08:00] <iceroot> digital_1: no modification
[08:00] <digital_1> iceroot : thanks you've encouraged me enough to try it again.  nothing ventured as they say...
[08:00] <claws_> ZykoticK9 : still command not found  :(
[08:01] <ActionParsnip> Yo yo yo
[08:01] <iceroot> digital_1: if i have problems with wine, i am using the appdb, looking what version is perfect for my windiws-program and than using that version
[08:01] <ZykoticK9> claws_, you have to be in the same directory as setup.sh when you run the command
[08:01] <claws_> ZykoticK9 : i am :s
[08:01] <iceroot> digital_1: nothing else is cadega doing, but cadega is "installing" more then one version, or better, its using different configs for one version
[08:01] <xfact_> I live in India and every time when I am opening OpenOffice the language is pre-set to 'English (india)' but how to change it to 'English (USA)' permanently?
[08:01] <ZykoticK9> claws_, try "sudo sh setup.sh"
[08:01] <iceroot> digital_1: nothing you couldnt do by yourself
[08:02] <brjann> iceroot: cedega is a proprietary fork. it's not the vanilla wine code.
[08:02] <iceroot> brjann: are you sure?
[08:02] <claws_> ZykoticK9 : it says... cant open setup.sh
[08:02] <iceroot> !cadega
[08:03] <iceroot> !cedega
[08:03] <ZykoticK9> claws_, are you running 64bit version of Ubuntu?
[08:03] <ActionParsnip> Claws_: if you run: ls ,do you see setup.sh?
[08:03] <claws_> 32bit
[08:03] <ZykoticK9> claws_, what about what ActionParsnip asked?
[08:04] <iceroot> brjann: but if i am correct, the only fork is that you can use different wine-version with one installation
[08:04] <claws_> ZykoticK9 : yes i see setup.sh
[08:04]  * xfact_ feeling disgusted about word processing
[08:04] <digital_1> iceroot thanks for all the tips.  I'm definitely going to try it again.  Thanks also for the info on Cedega.
[08:04] <ActionParsnip> Iceroot: does crossover not do it too?
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> Digital_1: there's crossoveroffice (also costs money) which is similar
[08:05] <ZykoticK9> claws_, does "sudo sh setup.sh" give you ANY other output other then "cannot open"
[08:05] <wowoto> 谁可以推荐一个俄罗斯方块游戏
[08:05] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: crossover is imo a patched version
[08:05] <wowoto> 简单的就可以
[08:05] <wowoto> 不要自带的
[08:05] <FloodBot3> wowoto: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:05] <abhi_> did anyone saw the new ubuntu theme
[08:05] <wowoto> 依赖太多了
[08:05] <iceroot> !cn | wowoto
[08:05] <ActionParsnip> Claws_: try: sudo sh ./setup.sh
[08:05] <dehqan> there is a folder containing jaunty and karmic packages how to separate the jaunty packages from the karmic packages?
[08:05] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: but never looked at crossover
[08:06] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: just reading some articles and bug-reports
[08:06] <wowoto> i joined a wrong #
[08:06] <digital_1> iceroot : thanks I've used crossover but not ever for gaming
[08:06] <claws_> ZykoticK9 : claws@claws-laptop:~/Alpha_Centauri_iso$ sudo sh setup.sh
[08:06] <claws_> sh: Can't open setup.sh
[08:06] <ActionParsnip> Abhi_: looked like karmic in my alpha3 install. Quickly installed lxde and it all vanished :)
[08:06] <iceroot> digital_1: crossover is for using ms office and other software you dont really need
[08:06] <claws_> ActionParsnip : claws@claws-laptop:~/Alpha_Centauri_iso$ sudo sh ./setup.sh
[08:06] <claws_> sh: Can't open ./setup.sh
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> Claws_: what is the output of: ls -la ./setup.sh
[08:07] <ActionParsnip> Iceroot: you can run games in crossover just like cedega
[08:08] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: of course, because it is wine but the focus is imo on ms office
[08:08] <iceroot> !crossover
[08:08] <ZykoticK9> iceroot, there is actually a "CrossOver Games" version -- trial available http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxgames/download_trial/
[08:08] <iceroot> ubottu: go to school and learn something
[08:08] <claws_> ActionParsnip : claws@claws-laptop:~/Alpha_Centauri_iso$ ls -la ./setup.sh
[08:08] <claws_> -r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 3003 2000-12-15 11:41 ./setup.sh
[08:08] <Jon-> Looking to make a wine app [irfanview] open a file type by default. Issue: file paths are different than windows. I saw a fix for uTorrent here: http://blog.shadypixel.com/fixing-utorrent-file-associations-in-linux/  anyone have any ideas?
[08:09] <ActionParsnip> Claws_: ok so everybody has execute and read access and its owned by root
[08:09] <iceroot> claws_: you called the file ./setup.sh?
[08:09] <distatica> I have a minimal install without gnome, I need access to the enable restricted drivers, can I do this from command line?
[08:09] <claws_> iceroot : nope
[08:10] <iceroot> ZykoticK9: thx for the info
[08:10] <ActionParsnip> Jon-: create a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications which will take a file as input and make it launch irfanview in wine with the file as the arg, if you look at the other files in that folder you will see what I mean
[08:10] <ZykoticK9> distatica, is jockey installed?  i believe it has a cli option (never used it), or jockey-gtk which is the GUI version
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> Jon-: just make one to run the windows app
[08:11] <distatica> ZykoticK9: Installing -gtk right now
[08:11] <ActionParsnip> Distratica: without a gui you don't really need drivers
[08:12] <distatica> ActionParsnip: without a gui I don't really need wireless drivers?
[08:12] <ActionParsnip> Distratica: for video anyhoo
[08:12] <distatica> or are you thinking.. yeah
[08:12] <digitalfiz> anyody know what the method cpanel uses to run php scripts on a website as the user account its under? trying to accomplish this on my ubuntu server
[08:13] <distatica> And I didn't say I don't have a gui, just a minimal install and no gnome (running stumpwm)
[08:13] <ActionParsnip> Digitalfiz: could ask in #ubuntu-server too
[08:13] <claws_> is it possible to burn multiple iso in one single disk and be able to run them as you want from disk... like iso joilet on ms
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Distratica: if you use nvidia you can just install the driver package to get the driver using apt-get
[08:14] <distatica> ZykoticK9: jockey appears to be exaclty what I was looking for, thanks
[08:14] <ZykoticK9> distatica, glad to help :)
[08:14] <distatica> ActionParsnip: wireless
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Distratica: I'm sure ati has similar
[08:14] <ActionParsnip> Distratica: then run: sudo lshw -C network
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> Distratica: websearch for the product line to find guides
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> Distratica: of the wifi device of course ;)
[08:15] <distatica> ActionParsnip: I've already figured out what card I have, and got a guide, but the guide figures I have ubuntu installed which has a restricted drivers gui tool
[08:15] <distatica> but I don't have the full ubuntu installed, so that's whereI ran into an issue. Jockey was the right thing though.
[08:15] <kevbo> distatica: how did it end up?
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> Distratica: is there no server guide towards the bottom?
[08:15] <number-g> hi, i am having trouble sending files from my phone via bluetooth to my pc
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> Distratica: do you have a broadcom 43xx per chance?
[08:16] <number-g> works from pc to phone, but the pc doesn't show up from the phone
[08:16] <distatica> kevbo: fail, trying the STA
[08:16] <distatica> ActionParsnip: yes
[08:16] <ActionParsnip> Number-g: make the pc discoverable
[08:16] <distatica> ActionParsnip: 4312
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Distratica: I hate them but there are guides
[08:17] <number-g> ActionParsnip: it is
[08:17] <number-g> which is what is confusing
[08:17] <justin_> Can anyone give me a hand setting up a USB wireless adapter?  I'm having some trouble.
[08:17] <Jon-> ActionParsnip: Are you sure it goes in /usr/share/Applications? This appears to be my Applications menu, I am looking to make the default for images be IrfanView under wine with modified paths of course, as it is necessary. I see no .desktop here.
[08:17] <distatica> like that: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx ?
[08:17] <ActionParsnip> Jon- /usr/share/applications is the folder
[08:18] <distatica> quote: "Following the above command, under the desktop menu System > Administration > Hardware Drivers, the drivers can be activated for immediate use. "
[08:18] <number-g> i notice that the "friendly name" i set in the applet disappears each reboot too
[08:18] <distatica> note that menu is not available for me.
[08:18] <claws_> when i install something... what is the link directory ? is it where the shortcuts go ?
[08:18] <Jon-> ActionParsnip: Can you give me an example of a .desktop file then? I see no such examples here.
[08:18] <justin_> Anyone have experience with setting up Orinoco drivers?
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> Jon-: /usr/share/applications/transmission.desktop
[08:19] <distatica> brb
[08:19] <Jon-> ActionParsnip: I do not have transmission.desktop.
[08:19] <Jon-> ActionParsnip: I told you, there are NO .desktop here.
[08:19] <ActionParsnip> Jon-: its that sort of thing. Think outside the box
[08:20] <justin_> I'm trying to set up a 2wire USB adapter and I've had no luck so far.  Trying to install the Orinoco drivers, but the "Make" command returns Error 1 and Error 2.  Can anyone give me a hand?
[08:20] <ActionParsnip> Can someone please pastebin the conntents of their /usr/share/applications folder for jon-
[08:20] <kevbo> distatica are you using 9.10?
[08:21] <ActionParsnip> I gotta jet.
[08:21] <neeraj> whoami
[08:22] <Jon-> Looking to make a wine app [irfanview] open a file type by default. Issue: file paths are different than windows. I saw a fix for uTorrent here: http://blog.shadypixel.com/fixing-utorrent-file-associations-in-linux/  anyone have any ideas?
[08:22] <distatica> ahh sweet wireless
[08:22] <neeraj> Hello Everyone
[08:22] <justin_> Still need help setting up my 2wire wireless usb adapter
[08:22] <justin_> Can anyone give me a hand?
[08:22] <distatica> kevbo: works with STA drivers, all I did was install jockey-gtk, run that select the STA drivers, reboot.
[08:23] <Dr_Willis> Jon-:  sounds  like a job for a bash script and a little codeing
[08:23] <distatica> wicd showed the card immediately, connected no problems to WPA2
[08:23] <gnaruag> hi i have inspiron 1525 which is having broadcom wifi adapter , cannot use wifi , it needs proprietary drivers i suppose
[08:23] <gnaruag> help me
[08:23] <distatica> kevbo: to note jocket-gtk also automatically downloads what it needs, any way to get that machine near a wired net?
[08:24] <abhi_nav> hi
[08:24] <gnaruag> hi
[08:24] <gnaruag> @abhi , u in college
[08:24] <gnaruag> ?
[08:25] <kevbo> yeah sunday I'm going back home.. not tonight though
[08:25] <Jon-> Dr_Willis: I have used Ubuntu for less than a month, care to help?
[08:25] <kevbo> I'm at an apartment complex where its only wireless internet
[08:25] <kevbo> iam writing it down though
[08:25] <ShadowOfBlood> Can anyone help me out?  I'm trying to get my 2Wire wireless USB adapter running.  I've tried using ndiswrapper to install drivers with no luck.  Currently attempting to install the Orinoco drivers, but the "Make" command is returning errors.  Can someone give me a hand with all of this?
[08:26] <distatica> oh, hrm. How are you chatting now? Another wireless machine?
[08:26] <ShadowOfBlood> I can post the error I got
[08:26] <claws_> when i mount an iso image file.. do i mount it in "fuse" or "loop" mode?
[08:27] <Dr_Willis> Jon-:  I suggest you use the linux apps really, I dont see much gaining by using wine and irfanview to view images.. unless you want to do it as a way to learn a bit more about linux scripting
[08:27]  * neeraj waves hello
[08:27] <sixth> hello guys
[08:27] <kevbo> android phone lol but my laptop also has windows 7
[08:28] <distatica> oh so you can download packages and then boot to linux and access them?
[08:28] <kevbo> yep
[08:28] <sixth> i would like to know if anyone of u know anyone using QCAD in their company....
[08:28] <Jon-> Dr_Willis: I have tried all the linux apps and they are vastly insuperior to infranview imo, it's a woderful small viewer/fast editor when you don't need to do anything too intensive, and I know all they keyboard shortcuts. And why not learn anyway? Isn't linux supposed to be what you make it? Please don't give me a copout, if you don't want to help that's fine
[08:29] <ShadowOfBlood> For anyone that can help me out, here is the message returned when I attempt to install the Orinoco drivers: make -C /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.31-19-generic M=/home/orinoco_usb KERNELRELEASE=2.6.31-19-generic modules
[08:29] <ShadowOfBlood> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.31-19-generic'
[08:29] <ShadowOfBlood>   CC [M]  /home/orinoco_usb/orinoco_usb.o
[08:29] <ShadowOfBlood> In file included from /home/orinoco_usb/orinoco_usb.c:70:
[08:29] <ShadowOfBlood> make[2]: *** [/home/orinoco_usb/orinoco_usb.o] Error 1
[08:29] <ShadowOfBlood> make[1]: *** [_module_/home/orinoco_usb] Error 2
[08:29] <FloodBot3> ShadowOfBlood: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:29] <Dr_Willis> Jon-:  start with the advanced bash scripting guide and learn bash scripting basics then.
[08:29] <sixth> i would like to know if anyone of u know anyone using QCAD in their company.... really need your info
[08:29] <abhi_nav> !paste | ShadowofBlood
[08:29] <vng> !backup
[08:29] <Jon-> Dr_Willis: How difficult is this?
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> Jon-:  Does it matter? :) given an hr you should know some bash basics.. 2 yrs.. you will be doing your own little scripts..  3 hrs.. complex ones...
[08:30] <Dr_Willis> !abs
[08:30] <ShadowOfBlood> !paste
[08:30] <ShadowOfBlood> ?
[08:31] <dehqan>  there is a folder containing jaunty and karmic packages how to separate the jaunty packages from the karmic packages?
[08:31] <kevbo> i am a noob though.. do you know tewhat I should download? look for jockey-gtk?
[08:32] <distatica> kevbo: sudo apt-get install jockey-gtk
[08:32] <sixth> i would like to know if anyone of u know anyone using QCAD in their company.... really need your info
[08:32] <Jon-> Dr_Willis: Goal: be able to open a .jpg with IrfanView by default. Second goal: Not getting frustrated and just going back to windows. Solution: two years of study? Come on.  A simple wine "path" to open didn't quite work.
[08:32] <distatica> I'm trying ot see if you can just download the basic text version though
[08:32] <distatica> That doesn't seem to have many dependencies.
[08:32] <claws_> ActionParsnip : i found out the problem :) i mounted the iso as loop insted of fuse...i typed admin pass...and was able to use the command sudo ./setup.sh  :)
[08:33] <Sami_ubi> hello all, I want to install gnome-commander
[08:33] <ardchoille> Is there a way to switch tabs in firefox with the keyboard?
[08:33] <Sami_ubi> how can I do it ?
[08:33] <kevbo> the apt-get doesn't require an internet connection?
[08:33] <ShadowOfBlood> I don't understand the !pastebin thing
[08:33] <distatica> kevbo: sorry yeah it does
[08:33] <distatica> trying to find a better way for ya
[08:33] <Jon-> ardchoille: ctrl + tab or ctrl + shift + tab
[08:33] <abhi_nav> kevbo: if you have required packages in arhcive then dont
[08:33] <Jon-> ardchoille: or ctrl + *num* where *num* is the tabs #
[08:33] <ShadowOfBlood> How do I use it?
[08:33] <ardchoille> Jon-: ah, thanks much :)
[08:34] <abhi_nav> kevbo: then ne is not required
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> Jon-:  2 hrs
[08:34] <abhi_nav> Sami_ubi sudp apt-get install gnome-commander?
[08:34] <Dr_Willis> Jon-:  and i doubt if  its going tobe that hard a script
[08:34] <vng> ardchoille: Alt + *num*
[08:34] <Jon-> ardchoille: No problem. ctrl + t = new tab, ctrl + w = close current tab, ctrl + shift + is reopen last closed tab ctrl + l is location bar ctrl + k is google bar. All very useful, learn to love them with Firefox or Chrome and you'll be flying.
[08:35] <Jon-> ardchoille: ctrl + shift + t *
[08:35] <abhi_nav> ShadowOfBlood go to paste.ubuntu.com give title paste your multi line text in to that next box click ok buttun (submit or continue) then give here the address of the submitted page then anyone interested to help wll go to that url and read it
[08:35] <Sami_ubi> abhi_nav ... thx :) i tried with: sudo apt-get install gcmd :)
[08:35] <Sami_ubi> bye
[08:35] <distatica> abhi_nav: he won't have the required stuff it's for restricted drivers
[08:35] <ShadowOfBlood> Can anyone tell me how to use the Ubuntu pastebin?
[08:35] <Dr_Willis> Jon-:  you will have to learn how wine and linux paths differ. You can set up wine where for example H: is /home/username/  so that would make things a little easier toconvert.. but i seem tor ecall wine apps  also some how handling Linux paths. but that may be in a few special cases
[08:35] <abhi_nav> distatica: he who?
[08:35] <abhi_nav> ShadowOfBlood read my last msg ^^^^
[08:36] <ShadowOfBlood> Oh, thanks, didn't see it
[08:36] <distatica> kevbo: I actually don't know what ot tell you..
[08:36] <distatica> abhi_nav: kevbo
[08:36] <ShadowOfBlood> Ah, I get it, thank you very much =D
[08:36] <abhi_nav> distatica: oh ok
[08:36] <distatica> kevbo: was super easy WITH the Internet might want to just use windows until you can get home.
[08:36] <abhi_nav> ShadowOfBlood :)
[08:36] <Jon-> Dr_Willis: You are not experienced enough to help then?
[08:36] <ShadowOfBlood> Can anybody tell me why my drivers won't install?  Pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/389455/
[08:37] <abhi_nav> !details | kevbo
[08:37] <Jon-> Dr_Willis: I didn't come here to be told to RTFM. I came here for ASSISTANCE. But thanks.
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> Jon-:  you will learn more in an hr of reading that ABS guide then you will in 5 hrs of chatting
[08:37] <Dr_Willis> Jon-:  given i know nothing of your bash experioence.. Im not going to explain  the stuff you would learn in 5 min of reading
[08:37] <kevbo> yeah I probably will then. i might be able to hook up my android phone up via usb but we'll see. do I just type that one command and it does it all?
[08:38] <distatica> abhi_nav: why the details request?
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> Jon-:  bash 101 shell scripts begin with #!/bin/bash   then commands follow. :)
[08:38] <Jon-> Dr_Willis: I normally like learning, tonight I want to get this working. Period. If it's an easy bash script to convert to a wine-like path, then great. EVERYTHING works once irfanview is loaded, issue is getting it to open properly.
[08:38] <distatica> unless he's got a new question I missed, this is an old question.
[08:38] <abhi_nav> distatica: i am (also) not getting what he is asking about
[08:38] <Dr_Willis> Jon-:  there might be one allready made. Id have to google/research it.
[08:38] <kevbo> lol
[08:38] <Elite_> hi guys i have a really good one here does anyone know why 9.10 both 32 and 64 bit versions stalls at "setting users and passwords" after setting up encrypted lvm ?
[08:39] <Jon-> Dr_Willis: If I found it I wouldn't be here. Please don't go from RTFM to Google... Terrible ;)
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> Jon-:  nautilus also has a scripting feature.  you may want to look into.
[08:39] <kevbo> its regarding drivers for the broadcom 4312
[08:39] <Dr_Willis> Jon-:  go do what you want. Id have to google and rtfm to answer you. so thats the bottom line. I dont have a script allready made.. it would proberly take me an hr or more to figure one out
[08:39] <distatica> kevbo: wait, you don't have to do that, that's for me since I don't have gnome, you just go to your hardware drivers and select the STA driver.. or did you try that already?
[08:39] <Elite_>  its been stalled at that spot for 2 days
[08:39] <abhi_nav> gaurang: like this
[08:40] <kevbo> I tried that. when I click activate it doesn't do anything
[08:40] <distatica> System -> Administration -> Hardware drivers..
[08:40] <kevbo> even after a restart
[08:40] <Jon-> Dr_Willis: I linked to an existing uTorrent one, no simple conversion to a different app path? I don't know bash at ALL so it's gibberish to me, someone who does should be able to help big.
[08:40] <iflema>
[08:40] <iflema>
[08:40] <FloodBot3> iflema: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:40] <distatica> it activated wtihout going on the net? Does full ubuntu do that regularly?
[08:40] <piojunbabia> how do i know my ftp details like my host name, user name, password, and port number. Im using filezilla
[08:40] <Dr_Willis> Jon-: theres proberly code in it you can reuse
[08:40] <distatica> for me, with jockey-gtk, it had to download stuff.
[08:41] <kevbo> oh it didn't activate, but maybe that's why?
[08:41] <distatica> I'm thinking yeah
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> Jon-:  i just set up utorrent to monitor a directory. :) so ive never needed to set that assoication
[08:41] <Jon-> Dr_Willis: It's nearly 3am, I have no interest in learning Bash, for someone who knows it this is a very simple problem given that there is existing code that works for a different app, all that should change is the extension and program. Come on.
[08:41] <distatica> kevbo: not sure how big the download is, if you've got a decent plan it might be worth a shot.
[08:41] <Dr_Willis> its 3 am here for me also. actually 4 am.
[08:41] <distatica> get it online and then try to enable that STA driver.
[08:41] <kevbo> I downloaded the bcmwl kernel source before.. before that, nothing was showing up under hardware drivers
[08:41] <distatica> hmm
[08:42] <kevbo> yeah its unlimited
[08:42] <piojunbabia> how do i know my ftp details like my host name, user name, password, and port number. Im using filezilla
[08:42] <distatica> maybe then try jockey-gtk maybe it installed something else. I just ran that and enabled it downloaded some stuff, and set it up, then I rebooted to working wirless.
[08:42] <distatica> sudo apt-get install jockey-gtk && sudo jockey-gtk
[08:43] <ShadowOfBlood> I'm just going to restate my problem with more details.  I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 and attempting to install a 2Wire wireless USB adapter.  I've tried using ndiswrapper to install WlanUIG; didn't work.  So I tried again with AmPsmNIC; no luck again.  I'm currently trying to install the Orinoco drivers, but my "Make" command returned errors.  Can someone take a look at the errors and see if you can figure out why it won't ins
[08:43] <ZykoticK9> Jon-, using native ubuntu applications instead of using wine really is the best long term solution...
[08:43] <abhi_nav> Sami_ubi: :)
[08:43] <ShadowOfBlood> Oh, and my adapter reads as "1630:ff81", if that helps at all
[08:44] <bazhang> http://www.computechgroup.com/?p=333 Jon- very first link for bash open irfanview
[08:45] <Dr_Willis> bazhang:  your google foo skills are strong.. :)
[08:45] <kevbo> idk why my phone keeps doing this. there's no way to download jockey-gtk on windows is there?
[08:45] <piojunbabia> how do i know my ftp details like my host name, user name, password, and port number. Im using filezilla
[08:45] <bazhang> Dr_Willis, :)
[08:45] <Jon-> bazhang: I was looking for something like "use wine application default ubuntu", I suppose I didn't expect there to be a specific one for IrfanVeiw. Thank you.
[08:45] <Jon-> view*
[08:45] <bazhang> Jon-, you are welcome.
[08:46] <Jon-> bazhang: My google-foo is usually strong, I underestimated the popularity of the app ^_^
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> been using irfanview for years.. helped debug/betatest it ages ago...
[08:46] <Dr_Willis> always put it on the windows box's. but rarely bother in linux
[08:46] <distatica> kevbo: yeah, but when you ran it same issue, it wouldn't be able to fetch what it needed.
[08:47] <bullgard> Synaptic: "package linux-doc: Linux kernel specific documentation for version 2.6.31. --  package linux-source-2.6.31: Linux kernel source for version 2.6.31 with Ubuntu patches." So does linux-source-2.6.31 contain a superset of linux-doc? Can I delete linux-doc if I have linux-source-2.6.31 installed?
[08:47] <Jon-> Dr_Willis: I've given up uTorrent and been okay, I just can't live without Irfan :D
[08:48] <Dr_Willis> !info pornview
[08:48] <Elite_> ShadowOfBlood Read this please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=707972
[08:49] <Jon-> I JUST REALISED NAUTILUS HAS TABS.
[08:49] <Jon-> Fail.
[08:49] <ShadowOfBlood> Elite:  Tried that, but my device is different and won't seem to work with that method
[08:49] <Jon-> I have had 4/5 open all the time for so long. Haha...
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> Jon-:  Phail even :)
[08:49] <Dr_Willis> Jon-:  seen Nautilus that has dual pane views also. I think that may be the default in the nect release also
[08:49] <kevbo> thanks for all your help distatica, it actually looks like I may be able to tether my droid so I might be able to get it going sooner than I thought
[08:50] <kwtm> Jon-: your problem solved yet re: irfanview?
[08:50] <Jon-> Dr_Willis: Ahh man screw GNOME/GNU/whoever-is-responsible. Just because you are pushing CTRL+PGUP CTRL+PGDN doesn't mean you remove it from the familiar ctrl + tab from empathy and nautilus.
[08:50] <distatica> kevbo: no problem, glad I could help. Good luck! :)
[08:50] <ShadowOfBlood> Any more ideas?
[08:50] <Jon-> kwtm: About to follow : http://www.computechgroup.com/?p=333  I will let you know
[08:50] <ShadowOfBlood> I'm really at a loss
[08:50] <Elite_> ShadowOfBlood well the 2wire it self is a bell canada modem or a usb wireless card made by 2wire ?
[08:51] <kwtm> Jon-: Trying to cagtch up on thread --hang on mbaby crying.  Sorry
[08:51] <ShadowOfBlood> The one I have is a usb wireless card made by 2wire
[08:51] <distatica> Elite_: they are not bell specific
[08:51] <Jon-> kwtm: I will let you know if that bash script gives me any issue, been doing 4/5 things, I'll focus :D
[08:51] <ShadowOfBlood> It says the model is lc_usb
[08:51] <Elite_> oh ok
[08:52] <ShadowOfBlood> I was trying to do this before I hit the errors: http://wiki.debian.org/orinoco_usb
[08:52] <Dr_Willis> Jon-:  learning bash and learning it well is proberly one of the top 10 things that you can learn to  Make you really 'know' how to make linux work for you
[08:52] <baba_b00ie> hello, i'm interested in using ubuntu to scan random hard drives *out of windows machines* is there solutions for this ?
[08:53] <Dr_Willis> baba_b00ie:  scan in what way? Not sure what you are doing exactly
[08:53] <bazhang> baba_b00ie, your own?
[08:53] <kwtm> Jon-: Goal is to click on *.jpg file and have it opened by IrfanView?
[08:53] <kwtm> Jon-: I mean, by default.
[08:54] <baba_b00ie> Dr_Willis, bazhang  i used drive cages to put my customer machine hd's in. scan drives for nasties and then i manually hunt down files.. but i need spyware scanners and virus detection available in  my host OS
[08:55] <Jon-> kwtm: Yes
[08:55] <kwtm> Jon-: Was going to offer some wisdom but that CompuTech article seems to have beat me to it.  Even does the search replace.  Potential problem: if your
[08:56] <kwtm> Jon-: it is possible that your linux directory containing the *.jpg file is not visible from the Wine "virtual windows machine" so to speak.
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> Jon-:  actually i think in the next nautilus (or right now in some ppa versions) theres a Majorly improved image preview feature - but i forget its name. baba_b00ie
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> baba_b00ie:  theres av and spyware scanner tools for linux - that scan windows files.
[08:56] <Dr_Willis> baba_b00ie:  i use live cd's to do that job on other peoples machines normally
[08:57] <Jon-> kwtm: My issue now is that: there is an issue with this version of IrfanView that means I have to run it from drive_c root [the exe]. Changing the script to that, and.. it doesn't work. Odd.
[08:57] <kwtm> Jon-: Useful to know a standard linux way of viewing but I support your Just Get It Done For Now And Spend TIme Later approach.
[08:57] <Dr_Willis> Jon-:  wine has 'config/wine dirs' where you can set up a seperate wine enviroment for each wine app if you wanted to. Comes in handy
[08:58] <Dr_Willis> kwtm:  thats how we do it at work.. and what happens is it NEVER gets done/learned the right way later. :)
[08:58] <iceroot> kwtm: why using irfanview? and then with wine? look at the alternatives on linux
[08:58] <baba_b00ie> Dr_Willis, i use live cds too. but i built a slew of machines for backing up their data and i run scans put drive back in their box safe mode it and take it from there. all in all 4 days usually turn around. i'm a little anal and make sure its clean and fully functional
[08:58] <Jon-> kwtm: I feel so incredibly smart. Solved the problem myself, saw replace="\" and went "but wine uses \\ doesn't it?". Added extra \. Success. :D