[12:11] <teward> is Xenial going to be an LTS, or no?
[12:14] <cjwatson> teward: http://markshuttleworth.com/archives/1479 makes that clear
[12:15] <teward> cjwatson: haven't given it a full read yet, thanks
[12:15] <cjwatson> search for LTS
[13:33] <DanChapman> seb128: hey! np. :-)
[13:33] <DanChapman> oops wrong channel
[16:44] <cyphermox> slangasek: please reject efivar (I will remove the Breaks for efibootmgr), and efibootmgr, from the vivid queue
[16:48] <cyphermox> ^ or someone else who can review the vivid queue for SRUs :)
[16:58] <slangasek> cyphermox: done
[16:58] <cyphermox> thanks.
[17:26] <stgraber> micahg, Laney: ^ this lxc backports upload is a one-line packaging change implementing mvo's suggestion from bug 1512219
[17:26] <ubot2> bug 1512219 in apt "apt appears to be confused when installing a backport that version depends on other backports" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512219
[17:26] <stgraber> won't fix the bug but will get us one step closer
[17:27] <stgraber> as with the other changes done to the backported version of lxc, this change will not be uploaded to the dev release as lxc can technically work fine with an older version of the dependency
[17:28] <stgraber> it's only needed to keep everything bundled together properly in backports
[17:28] <Laney> stgraber: okay, I believe you (since I have left this to micahg)
[17:28]  * Laney accepts
[17:29] <Laney> once we get a diff, anyway
[17:39] <stgraber> Laney: thanks
[17:40] <Laney> np!
[17:40] <Laney> sorry you hit an apt bug
[18:05] <stgraber> FYI, I intend to rush a lxc SRU to wily as soon as I've confirmed that my workaround for bug 1512749 works
[18:05] <ubot2> bug 1512749 in network-manager "lxcbr0 dissappears on Ubuntu 15.10" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1512749
[18:05] <stgraber> as this is basically breaking all new LXC installations and some upgrades too
[18:06] <stgraber> I uploaded the workaronud to xenial, waiting for it to go through autopkgtest now and will then test the resulting binaries on a clean desktop and cloud install to confirm that the fix 1) works 2) doesn't somehow regress on non-NM systems
[18:07] <stgraber> provided that it looks good, I'll upload the exact same thing as an SRU to wily and intend to wave the wait period once we have confirmation that the fix works for people currently affected and doesn't cause regression on non-NM systems
[18:08] <stgraber> robru: FYI, that's most likely what you ran into yesterday. We received two other reports of that issue this morning and managed to track it down to a NetworkManager bug.
[18:09] <robru> stgraber: oh wow, excellent. yeah I'm on xenial, I can help test (after lunch) if you need
[18:10] <stgraber> new lxc should be in the release pocket within an hour or so, would be nice if you could confirm that upgrading doesn't break things
[18:14] <robru> stgraber: ok will do
[19:31] <Ian_Corne> Hello, I'mm looking for version 1.5.11 of ibus, any idea how to get this in ubuntu? :)
[19:31] <Ian_Corne> https://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-78860 it's to fix this issue :)
[20:08] <cyphermox> Ian_Corne: people eventually take the new upstream versions for packages, but things usually first go through Debian rather than directly in Ubuntu. It's up to individual maintainers to do this when they have the time
[20:08] <cyphermox> Ian_Corne: you could check if there is a bug to request the new vesion in Debian
[20:38] <teward> infinity: you wouldn't happen to be around would you?
[20:46] <cyphermox> teward: many people are at a sprint this week, multiple meetings plus UOS, would be best if you just ask your question I think :)
[21:21] <teward> cyphermox: well, tryin to reach infinity because they handled the blacklist/remove req. for electrum.  and it looks like someone went on a triaging spree and 'fix released' a related SRU to 'dummy' the existing package in Trusty, etc. because it's incompatible with later versions.
[21:21] <teward> trying to hunt down whether it was actually handled or not, and whether I need to go smack someone doing bad triaging or not
[21:21] <teward> AFAICT there was no upload on the thing to mark it fix released
[21:21] <teward> and the person who made the change isn't SRU or Release or even developer
[21:21] <teward> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/electrum/+bug/1499094 is the relevant bug, and it's sat a while
[21:21] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1499094 in electrum "Please replace electrum with 'dummy' package in the repositories for Trusty, Vivid" [Medium,Fix released]
[21:21] <teward> (but no reject or accept_
[21:51] <cyphermox> no, it's just someone playing with the bugs
[21:52] <cyphermox> but the change isn't exactly incorrect either
[21:52] <cyphermox> (the package isn't in wily or xenial)
[22:05] <teward> cyphermox: you're actually two steps behind
[22:05] <teward> cyphermox: it's similar to the bitcoin retroactive "beat it into dummy state" changes
[22:05] <teward> there's a related blacklist removal bug that infinity handled on the same premise as the bitcoin package
[22:05] <teward> hence why i'm hunting down infinity
[22:05] <teward> because they're the one that set a retroactive 'dummy' state on the package was a potential option
[22:05] <teward> cyphermox: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/electrum/+bug/1481033  <-- related
[22:05] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1481033 in electrum "Please remove electrum from the archive" [Medium,Triaged]
[22:05] <teward> that's why it's not in Wily or Xenial
[22:05] <teward> autosync blacklist, removal during Wily
[22:05] <teward> cyphermox: should I reset the bug back to "New" and wait for SRU team?
[22:06] <cyphermox> no point, the fact that it's nominated for the two releases you want to deal with seems fine to me
[22:06] <cyphermox> of course, infinity or somebody else might well say otherwise ;P
[22:07] <mdeslaur> need to be approved for the two series before it will appear in the sponsors queue
[22:07]  * mdeslaur approves
[22:07] <cyphermox> yes
[22:13] <teward> cyphermox: :P
[22:13] <teward> mdeslaur: thank you for approving :)
[22:13]  * teward will wait :)
[23:48] <darkxst> cjwatson, could this be something related to the builders? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/webkit2gtk/2.10.3+dfsg1-1/+build/8195973/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-xenial-arm64.webkit2gtk_2.10.3%2Bdfsg1-1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[23:49] <darkxst> it built fine in debian
[23:51] <cjwatson> darkxst: unless doko says otherwise, that seems more likely to come down to toolchain differences.  have you compared binutils versions for example?
[23:52] <doko> cjwatson, darkxst: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/binutils/+bug/1511542 nor work around yet
[23:52] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1511542 in unity "[2.26 Regression] binutils assertion fail ../../bfd/elfnn-aarch64.c:4631" [High,In progress]


[12:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77884 in apt-listbugs (universe) "Too many bug reports make apt-listbugs exit badly, prevents any updates" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77884
[12:07] <Shadow42> Hey, it works!
[12:07] <Shadow42> Oh, that's a funny one
[12:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77885 in sysv-rc-conf (universe) "Minor: sysv-rc-conf inconsistency displaying rcS.d or not" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77885
[12:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77890 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "ubuntu fails to start unless sis5513 module is blacklisted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77890
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77307 in hplip (main) "hp-setup fails with setupform import" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77307
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77886 in nautilus (main) "Using a keybinding for nautilus --no-desktop has unexpected behaviour" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77886
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77887 in wammu (universe) "SE T610 -- crash by using SMS upload" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77887
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77888 in greasemonkey (universe) "Redundant package" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77888
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77889 in kdegames (main) "knetwalk crashes at the end of the game" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77889
[12:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77891 in kdebase (main) "Kcontrol doesn't open the system services module" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77891
[01:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77893 in Ubuntu "Microphone not working on intel sound card" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77893
[01:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77894 in Ubuntu "wbsd doesn't detect SD card on feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77894
[01:33] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77895 in ubiquity (main) "Grubinstaller crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77895
[01:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #73428 in kdelibs (main) "/var/crash/_usr_bin_kdeinit.1000.crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/73428
[01:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77897 in linux-meta (main) "/usr/src/linux symlink missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77897
[02:06] <bddebian> Boo
[02:06] <Shadow42> Aa!
[02:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> gday
[02:07] <bddebian> Heh, heya Shadow42, Kamping_Kaiser
[02:07] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77898 in Ubuntu "Edgy PPC when time is grossly incorrect system does not function" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77898
[02:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> isnt that for any unix....?
[03:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77903 in cfengine (universe) "Please remove cfengine from the archive" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77903
[03:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77902 in ruby-defaults (main) "ruby objects randomly become fixnums" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77902
[03:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77892 in language-support-de (main) "depends on openoffice.org-l10n-de which conflicts with openoffice.org-core (>= <IP_ADDRESS>) " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77892
[03:38] <Ubugtu> New bug: #63199 in ubuntu-website "Ubuntu web site should list vendors with Ubuntu-preinstalled laptops (dup-of: 63192)" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/63199
[04:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77904 in gnome-app-install (main) "Add/Remove Applications crashed after trying to install a program" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77904
[04:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77905 in firefox (main) "firefox crashed when opening a tab that caused a number of fd:// errors popping up" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77905
[04:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77906 in linux-meta (main) "Crash on accessing ESPN web site with Firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77906
[04:18] <Nafallo> ehh
[04:19] <Nafallo> how can that be linux-metas fault? :-)
[04:23] <Hobbsee> wrong place, i'll bet
[05:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77907 in bibletime (universe) "No drop down on Book control." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77907
[05:37] <dthacker> Hi,  Is the ubuntu-bugsquad mailing list an appropriate place to ask a question about triaging?
[05:38] <somerville32> Just ask here :)
[05:38] <Hobbsee> dthacker: sure, or here
[05:43] <dthacker> If upstream says wontfix, should I reject or resolve?
[05:44] <lifeless> "It depends"
[05:44] <lifeless> its really a case by case thing
[05:45] <lifeless> sometimes we will fix it ourselves and carry a patch
[05:45] <lifeless> sometimes we'll accept the upstreams point and follow suite - in which case reject.
[05:46] <dthacker> since this was more feature request than bug,  I will reject
[05:47] <lifeless> what bug # is it ?
[05:47] <dthacker> ubugtu: bug 77768
[05:47] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 77768 in beagle "should not store indexes in ~" [Unknown,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77768
[05:48] <dthacker> hah, I was beaten to it
[05:48] <lifeless> I'll be thats wasabi :)
[05:48] <dthacker> what a learning experience
[05:49] <dthacker> oh well, if wasn't doing anything I wouldn't make mistakes, right?
[05:49] <somerville32> :]
[06:06] <dthacker> ubugtu: bug 51502
[06:07] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 51502 in util-linux "hardware clock overrides time set by ntpdate on boot" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/51502
[06:07] <dthacker> Based on more info, I'm ready to confirm this.  Do I remove myself as owner?
[06:10] <Hobbsee> dthacker: as owner?
[06:11] <dthacker> assignee, sorry.  more coffee!
[06:12] <dthacker> Hobbsee: I'm not going to fix it, so I should no longer be assignee, correct?
[06:12] <Hobbsee> dthacker: yes.  why were you the assignee anyway?
[06:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77909 in stardict (universe) "stardict under gnome crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77909
[06:17] <dthacker> Hobbsee: The triage guide says to assign to "me" when you are setting the bug to more info
[06:17] <Hobbsee> hrm, OK....
[06:19] <dthacker> Hobbsee: does that cause a workflow problem?
[06:19] <dthacker> or is there some reason to not follow the guide?
[06:19] <Hobbsee> dthacker: no.  i just saw it, and thought it was odd
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77911 in Ubuntu "Sound card configuration is a complete mess" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77911
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77912 in gaim (main) "Gaim crashes when trying to fetch info for ICQ contact" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77912
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77913 in opencv (universe) "cvSetIdentity problem in 0.9.7 fixed in 1.0.0" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77913
[07:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77915 in anjuta (universe) "[feisty]  anjuta some plugins cannot be loaded" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77915
[07:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77916 in xen-tools (universe) "xen-image-create fails to boot image." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77916
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77917 in xchat-systray (universe) "[feisty]  xchat-systray spawns 2 systray icons" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77917
[08:21] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77919 in apt (main) "[feisty]  apt removes openoffice if trying to install openoffice-help-x" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77919
[09:23] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77920 in Ubuntu "GEdit freezes on open when launched with (gk)sudo" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77920
[09:24] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77921 in xchat (universe) "xchat has two systray icons" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77921
[09:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77922 in initramfs-tools (main) "After upgrading from breezy, the system will not boot" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77922
[09:36] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77923 in Ubuntu "NTP synchronization triggered by if-up.d in Ubuntu-Server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77923
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77924 in gnome-keyring (main) "Nautilus won't remember passwords for samba shares" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77924
[10:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77926 in libapache-mod-auth-mysql (main) "libapache2-mod-auth-mysql depends on apache2-common in feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77926
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77927 in lincity-ng (universe) "Lincity Crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77927
[10:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #76393 in kde-guidance (main) "displayconfig-restore crash" [Undecided,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/76393
[10:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77928 in Ubuntu "xorg handling of "special" keys inconsistant" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77928
[10:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77929 in Ubuntu "usb.ids instaled in several copies to the system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77929
[11:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77930 in beagle (main) "beagled crashes on startup (0.2.9-1ubuntu3)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77930
[11:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77931 in acpid (main) "Edgy crashes when switching power supply on Asus A2500D" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77931
[11:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77932 in kdebase (main) "On system logout all fat 32 partitions become unmounted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77932
[11:32] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77935 in mono (main) "mono crashed when i turned on the pc" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77935
[11:34] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77934 in cssed (universe) "using padding (all) dialog box - program crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77934
[11:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77936 in python-defaults (main) "var/crash/_usr_bin_python.1000.crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77936
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77937 in nautilus (main) "CD with UDFS aren't readable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77937
[12:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77938 in firefox (main) "Segmentation fault after upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77938
[12:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77939 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.20 (restricted) "fglrx 3d rendering fails in kernel 2.6.20-3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77939
[12:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77940 in Ubuntu "gst-plugins-ugly0.10 crash in firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77940
[12:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77941 in firefox (main) "Segfault since upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77941
[12:54] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77942 in ubiquity (main) "installing OS" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77942
[12:54] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77943 in openssh (main) "blacklist hosts after 3 wrong password" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77943
[12:54] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77944 in nautilus (main) "nautilus shows folder twice" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77944
[01:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77945 in xkeyboard-config (main) "Windows key producing <Mod4><Hyper> instead of just <Mod4>" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77945
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77946 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77946
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77947 in Ubuntu "wifi lights not working on dell inspiron 6000" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77947
[01:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77948 in mesa (main) "Slow scrolling with aiglx/compiz" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77948
[01:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77949 in evolution (main) "I want Evolution to removed deleted mails fom server" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77949
[02:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #69291 in Ubuntu "Slow boot in Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/69291
[02:15] <joachim-n> what's the package for software update?
[02:16] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77950 in kvpnc (universe) "kvpnc crashes with SIGSEGV when trying to import a Cisco .pcf file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77950
[02:16] <joachim-n> nm, found it
[02:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77951 in firefox (main) "can't restart firefox" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77951
[02:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77952 in update-manager (main) "cancelling software update install causes a rescan and forgets my selection" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77952
[02:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77953 in initrd-tools (universe) "Edgy (i386 desktop) install fails to boot when installed to a SCSI disk  (initrd missing aic drivers)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77953
[02:32] <Hobbsee> bug 49963
[02:32] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 49963 in firefox "cannot "add action" permanently when opening files " [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/49963
[02:32] <Hobbsee> yay :D
[02:45] <Ubugtu> New bug: #76504 in gnome-power-manager (main) "gnome-power-manager crashes on close" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/76504
[02:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77954 in sysvinit (main) "cleanup scripts confused about cleaning /var/run and /var/lock" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77954
[03:33] <giskard> ciao
[03:38] <the_mug> hello friends.
[03:39] <the_mug> I keep getting this on a fresh edgy install: lsof: WARNING: can't stat() tmpfs file system /dev/shm/var.run
[03:41] <dthacker> the_mug: what is your question?
[03:44] <the_mug> dthacker: I kept losing my ifstate file so I had to recreate /var/run/network/* yesterday how can I tell whether my tmpfs is correctly setup.
[03:44] <the_mug> I don't get the above error on my other fresh edgy install
[03:46] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77957 in linux-meta (main) "GDM gets stuck at login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77957
[03:46] <dthacker> the_mug: that would be a support request :)  Please ask in #ubuntu or on the ubuntu forums for mailing list.  This channel is for discussing bug reports.
[03:47] <dthacker> sorry that was forums or mailing list.
[03:48] <bddebian> Boo
[03:50] <dthacker> boo
[03:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77958 in firefox (main) "incompatible themes against firefox<IP_ADDRESS> from edgy-security" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77958
[03:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77959 in control-center (main) "preferred application for calendar" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77959
[04:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77961 in syncropated (universe) "syncropated can not start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77961
[04:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77962 in sysvinit (main) "sendsigs calls usplash_down without checking if it exists" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77962
[04:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77964 in ubiquity (main) "Should warn about insufficient disk space (automatic partitioning)" [High,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77964
[04:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77966 in ubiquity (main) "Should warn about insufficient disk space (manual partitioning)" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77966
[04:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #76450 in openoffice.org (main) "Open Office shipped with Ubuntu is broken." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/76450
[05:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77968 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "linux-image-2.6.20-4-generic package doesnt configure when installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77968
[05:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77970 in firefox (main) "firefox crash after closing totem in a tab" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77970
[05:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77971 in Ubuntu "usb flash drive not working. Lsusb hangs with no output." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77971
[05:37] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77972 in initramfs-tools (main) "mkinitramfs does not bulid a xen-friendly initrd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77972
[05:43] <beerockxs> against which package would I report a Xinerama bug?
[05:44] <keescook> beerockxs: I'd use "xorg", that's probably reasonable, and if not, it can be changed.  :)
[05:44] <beerockxs> keescook: well, the problem is that the mousecursor does not change on the secondary monitor when you hover over a link or try to drag a window around
[05:45] <keescook> that may be video-driver specific...
[05:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77973 in gtkpod-aac (multiverse) "Crash when selecting Playlists pulldown" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77973
[05:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77974 in tar (main) "manual page outdated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77974
[05:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77175 in eog (main) "eog crashes in nautilus" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77175
[05:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77174 in xine-ui (universe) "Xine-ui creates two menu entries "Xine Movie Player" on kubuntu" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77174
[05:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77303 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes when Xorg color depth set to 16" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77303
[05:59] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77302 in ubiquity (main) "ntfsresize cannot shrink XP without leaving ~300MB of wasted disk; gparted unhelpful. " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77302
[06:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77298 in ubiquity (main) "Installer cant install GRUB" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77298
[06:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77299 in network-manager (main) "Password dialog appears on the wrong desktop when multiple users are logged on" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77299
[06:03] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77308 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashed when opening a yahoo email." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77308
[06:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77975 in amaya (universe) "amaya crashed while opening http://www.cbc.ca" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77975
[06:11] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77976 in mediawiki (universe) "mediawiki: overlaps an earlier Alias" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77976
[06:32] <gnomefreak> mvo_: we cant do much with edgys apt/autoremove since its been released right?
[06:50] <proppy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cvs/+bug/71089 still valid
[06:50] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 71089 in cvs "cvs broken on edgy live cd" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]
[06:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77977 in evolution-jescs (universe) "typo in evolution-jescs-2.8.2/debian/rules" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77977
[06:57] <mvo_> gnomefreak: to a certain extend we can, it depends on the problem. what bug/problem do you have in mind?
[07:03] <gnomefreak> mvo_: autoremove
[07:04] <gnomefreak> mvo_: someone is claiming installing jokosher wants to remove all kde apps
[07:05] <gnomefreak> i see it as listing the apps to remove with autoremove (atleast i know feisty fixed this for most part.) but i have yet seen proof of it just removing them
[07:06] <mvo_> gnomefreak: that line made it to #gnome-hackers. I guess I should disable the ai in autoremove ,)
[07:06] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77978 in ubiquity (main) "Crash before partitioning" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77978
[07:07] <mvo_> gnomefreak: do we have some more data on the bug? someone to talk to how can reproduce it? it seems to be mostly happening on kubuntu system and I wonder why
[07:07] <gnomefreak> mvo_: that sounds fine. i just keep getting ALOT of complaints about autoremove in edgy but i dont mind it too much :)
[07:07] <gnomefreak> mvo_: this was a kubuntu system
[07:08] <gnomefreak> i cant see why its only kubuntu except maybe the amount of packages?
[07:08] <mvo_> gnomefreak: can you see a matter in the reports? or some bugreport that can be used as a starting point to explore the problem
[07:08] <gnomefreak> i will look today for as much info i can find on it
[07:09] <mvo_> I was suspecting that there is something wrong in the way that kubuntu-desktop is installed. if it is install as "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" and it brings in a load of dependencies, those dependencies will be auto-removed once kubuntu-desktop is removed for some reason
[07:09] <mvo_> the other thing I have seen was people installing "kde" (a meta-package)
[07:09] <mvo_> and later removing it again
[07:09] <gnomefreak> true
[07:10] <mvo_> but given the amount of reports, it certainly needs closer investigation :/
[07:10] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77979 in Ubuntu "installer crashed upon installing grub on usb drive" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77979
[07:11] <gnomefreak> only -desktop package i dont have installed is edubuntu so i cant really test with that one but i will look for some bugs with info for you to look at in the morning(afternoon for you)
[07:11] <mvo_> gnomefreak: I don't want to hold you from lunch  :) let me know (irc/mail/what-you-wnat) if you find something interessting that can be used as a starting point
[07:11] <mvo_> great, thanks a lot!
[07:11] <gnomefreak> i have one of update-manager bugs open i cant remmber why :(
[07:11] <gnomefreak> bug
[07:12] <mvo_> oh? I will do some bug triage on the update-manager problems tomorrow I think
[07:12] <gnomefreak> oh i looked at the logs and hp* packages were broken from what i see but hes complaining about update-manager wanting to update held back packages.
[07:12] <gnomefreak> bug 75332
[07:12] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 75332 in update-manager "Held back packages not ignored" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/75332
[07:13] <gnomefreak> maybe you can make heads or tails of what he means. from the logs the erlang package installed fine
[07:13] <mvo_> gnomefreak: thanks, I think I have a idea where to start looking
[07:13] <gnomefreak> ok cool
[07:14] <gnomefreak> thank you for your time ill be back later after lunch
[07:14] <mvo_> thank you!
[07:15] <Ubugtu> New bug: #71442 in ubiquity (main) "partman exited with code 10" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/71442
[07:16] <gnomefreak> mvo_: if you run out of things to do bug 75068 is one of the autoremove bugs that i happen to have sitting here at desk
[07:16] <Ubugtu> Malone bug 75068 in apt "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required" [Low,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/75068
[07:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77980 in mtop (universe) "A package failed to install (apt, dpkg)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77980
[07:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77981 in nedit (universe) "nedit crashes at startup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77981
[07:41] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77983 in Ubuntu "$LANG is defined in 2 places: /etc/environment and /etc/default/locale" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77983
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77984 in gdm (main) "Changing display brightness kills GDM" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77984
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77985 in gaim (main) "reading error, closes unexpecded at start or after a while. Sometimes i can be loggen in with one account and the other crashes, sometimes neither." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77985
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77986 in kdebase (main) "stopping kdm leaves the Virtual Terminals invisible" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77986
[08:01] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77987 in Ubuntu "Missing links in Edgy 64 /usr/lib32 - easy to fix. (please fix on Feisty!)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77987
[08:05] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77988 in Ubuntu "no sound after Kubuntu/Ubuntu switching" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77988
[08:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77989 in firefox-themes-ubuntu (main) "[Edgy]  themes incompatible with firefox <IP_ADDRESS> after security update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77989
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77990 in gnome-mount (main) "[feisty]  cdrom double entries" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77990
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77991 in gdm (main) "user security compromised when switching users" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77991
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77992 in python-defaults (main) "PyAlaMode crashes if view ingredients of numpy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77992
[08:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77993 in kdenetwork "kget crashes after pausing files in Edgy" [Unknown,Unknown]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77993
[08:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77616 in firefox (main) "FF crashed when trying to download from NFL.com" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77616
[08:53] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77172 in hplip (main) "hp-makeuri reports "error: Unable to connect to hpiod." while the printer is powered up." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77172
[09:13] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77301 in beryl-manager "When I log in, it doesn't load the desktop anymore" [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77301
[09:14] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77698 in firefox (main) "crashefor no reason" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77698
[09:18] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77300 in wacom-tools (main) "wacom driver is far from adequate on Volito2" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77300
[09:26] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77994 in gnutls13 (main) "libgnutls13 should Provides: libgnutls" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77994
[09:31] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77995 in kdebase (main) "Konsole "Tip of the day" sometimes forgets it's settings" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77995
[09:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77997 in iptables (main) "IPtables blocking unintentional ICMP" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77997
[09:36] <localverb> Hi
[09:36] <localverb> I need your help
[09:36] <localverb> I get this message in the add/remove menu in ubuntu 6.10
[09:36] <localverb> PROGRAM_NAME cannot be installed on your computer type (i386). Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type.
[09:36] <localverb> This is written under almost all the applications in the menu
[09:36] <localverb> I updated my system and I also googled it....but no use
[09:36] <localverb> what's the solution ?
[09:36] <localverb> and thanks in advance
[09:37] <localverb> Hello?
[09:37] <localverb> guys anybody please help!
[09:38] <localverb> :(
[09:38] <stgraber> looks like you are trying to install a software for a different architecture
[09:38] <localverb> no
[09:39] <stgraber> did you try installing one of those softwares directly from command line ?
[09:39] <localverb> it's under all programs
[09:39] <localverb> it is impossible for it to be under all programs
[09:39] <localverb> for example Azureus should run on this CPU I am sure
[09:39] <localverb> no
[09:40] <stgraber> yes, but maybe you are using a mirror that only provides packages for amd64, ppc or whatever
[09:40] <stgraber> and then doesn't have the i386 ones
[09:40] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77998 in firefox (main) "Application Quits on specific URL" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77998
[09:40] <localverb> How can I know mate?
[09:40] <stgraber> well, try : sudo apt-get install <the package name>
[09:40] <stgraber> where <the package name> is one of the software you see with that message
[09:41] <localverb> sudo apt-get install Azureus
[09:41] <localverb> for example ?
[09:41] <stgraber> azureus
[09:41] <stgraber> but yes
[09:41] <stgraber> sudo apt-get install azureus
[09:42] <localverb> ok
[09:42] <localverb> I will try it rightaway
[09:42] <localverb> Thank for taking the time and trouble to help me  stgraber :)
[09:43] <stgraber> no problem :)
[09:43] <localverb> I get this :
[09:43] <localverb> Password:
[09:43] <localverb> Reading package lists... Done
[09:43] <localverb> Building dependency tree
[09:43] <localverb> Reading state information... Done
[09:43] <localverb> E: Couldn't find package azureus
[09:44] <stgraber> hmm
[09:44] <stgraber> ok, so go to : System -> Administration -> Software sources
[09:45] <localverb> ok I am there
[09:45] <stgraber> check : universe, multiverse, restricted and main
[09:46] <stgraber> for example azureus is in universe
[09:46] <stgraber> so if universe isn't checked you won't be able to install it
[09:46] <localverb> they are all checked except multiverse
[09:47] <stgraber> ok, that's really weird ...
[09:47] <stgraber> could you paste the content of /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:48] <localverb> yeah
[09:48] <localverb> I've googled it and it appeared to be a gnome bug and the solution was to update
[09:48] <localverb> I updated but it still exist
[09:48] <localverb> ok
[09:51] <localverb> Which syntax should I choose?
[09:51] <localverb> and what's next when I paste it?
[09:52] <stgraber> give me the url plz
[09:52] <stgraber> syntax choose text
[09:52] <localverb> ok
[09:53] <localverb> Here it is:
[09:53] <localverb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/476/
[09:54] <stgraber> it looks good
[09:54] <stgraber> try : sudo apt-get update
[09:54] <localverb> ok
[09:54] <stgraber> and tell me if there is an error
[09:54] <localverb> ok
[09:54] <stgraber> (but as your sources.list looks correct it shouldn't)
[09:55] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77999 in gnucash (universe) "MDL currency absent" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77999
[09:56] <localverb> it doesn't give any errors
[09:56] <localverb> but there is a line that says:
[09:56] <localverb> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[09:56] <stgraber> hmm
[09:57] <stgraber> can you paste the result of the apt-get update to paste.ubuntu-nl.org as well
[09:57] <localverb> right away
[09:58] <localverb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/478/
[09:59] <stgraber> ok, is the "Source code" case checked in the Software Sources ?
[10:00] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78000 in mc (universe) "mc crashed while ftp connection was running" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78000
[10:01] <localverb> it was checked with a " - "
[10:01] <localverb> I unchecked it and checked it again and it became a check mark
[10:01] <stgraber> ok, uncheck it
[10:01] <localverb> ok
[10:02] <localverb> it's unchecked now
[10:02] <stgraber> it appears that's your current problem, the sources aren't available on the mirror or there is a bug there
[10:02] <stgraber> sudo apt-get update
[10:02] <stgraber> again
[10:02] <localverb> ok
[10:02] <stgraber> and check if the errors are gone
[10:03] <localverb> it seems similar to the previous result
[10:03] <stgraber> hmm, do : sudo gedit /etc/sources.list
[10:05] <localverb> ok it's opened
[10:05] <localverb> but it's empty !
[10:06] <stgraber> indeed, I did a mistake :)
[10:06] <stgraber> close it and do : sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:06] <localverb> ok
[10:06] <localverb> now it's not :)
[10:08] <localverb> it's open now
[10:08] <stgraber> ok, do you have uncommented deb-src lines ?
[10:09] <localverb> No, they are all commented
[10:10] <stgraber> ok, I'll write a small sources.list that should work for you, maybe that's just you local mirror that's buggy
[10:11] <localverb> Maybe
[10:11] <localverb> I  already heat the internet in my country :)
[10:11] <localverb> sorry
[10:11] <localverb> hate*
[10:11] <localverb> no heat :)
[10:12] <stgraber> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/480/
[10:12] <stgraber> put that instead of your current sources.list content
[10:12] <stgraber> that's from the main Ubuntu mirror so it should work
[10:12] <localverb> ok
[10:12] <localverb> I hope so :)
[10:13] <stgraber> then another : sudo apt-get update :)
[10:13] <localverb> OK should I replace all the previous content?
[10:15] <stgraber> yep
[10:16] <localverb> ok
[10:22] <localverb> it is downloading
[10:22] <localverb> it seems to work
[10:22] <localverb> but I also get that line that says:
[10:22] <localverb> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[10:22] <localverb> but I am sure it is different from the previous attempt , because it took sometime to download
[10:23] <localverb> can I try : sudo apt-get install azureus
[10:25] <stgraber> copy/paste the errors to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:25] <localverb> ok
[10:25] <stgraber> you can try apt-get install azureus but I doubt it will work
[10:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78002 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "BUG: scheduling while atomic: fsck/0x20000000/5262" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78002
[10:25] <gnomefreak> localverb: feisty?
[10:26] <stgraber> edgy
[10:26] <localverb> yeah edgy
[10:27] <gnomefreak> try changing the mirror you use instead of archive.ubuntu.com use gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:27] <localverb> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/484/
[10:27] <gnomefreak> the uk mirrors werent working this morning so i changed it and it worked
[10:28] <localverb> stgraber changed them for me
[10:28] <localverb> and I got this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/484/
[10:28] <gnomefreak> try using de
[10:28] <stgraber> localverb: try changing them from archive.ubuntu.com to gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:28] <gnomefreak> its almost always working
[10:29] <stgraber> gnomefreak: he was using sa.archive.ubuntu.com but they look to be the same as archive.ubuntu.com
[10:29] <gnomefreak> i know gb is working right now
[10:29] <localverb> ok
[10:29] <localverb> I will try
[10:29] <gnomefreak> they may be
[10:29] <stgraber> he has problem like that : Failed to fetch http://sa.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[10:29] <localverb> I've been with this bug a while
[10:29] <localverb> it spoiled my edgy experience :(
[10:32] <stgraber> any difference with gb.archive.ubuntu.com instead of archive.ubuntu.com ?
[10:33] <localverb> just a sec
[10:33] <localverb> my connection is a little bit slow
[10:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78003 in widelands (universe) "crash during tut 1 level" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78003
[10:35] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78004 in ubiquity (main) "installer fails to launch in Feisty Herd 1 on amd64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78004
[10:39] <localverb> all it returns is "could not resolve gb.ubuntu......."
[10:40] <stgraber> gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:40] <stgraber> not gb.ubuntu.com
[10:40] <localverb> :)
[10:40] <localverb> Sorry
[10:40] <localverb> I will do it now
[10:42] <localverb> Err http://sa.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages
[10:42] <localverb>   Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[10:42] <localverb> but not finished yet
[10:42] <localverb> Err http://sa.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Packages  Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1)
[10:43] <stgraber> but why a sa.archive.ubuntu.com line ?
[10:43] <stgraber> do you still have some sa.archive.ubuntu.com lines in your sources.list ?
[10:43] <localverb> I don't know why it still insists on this mirrir although I am sure I changed it
[10:44] <localverb> the output is mixed
[10:44] <localverb> some URLs are gb and little are sa
[10:44] <localverb> but the sources.list file contains only gb
[10:44] <stgraber> weird
[10:45] <stgraber> sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*edgy*
[10:45] <stgraber> it'll clean the lists cache of apt
[10:45] <localverb> Yeah
[10:45] <localverb> If only I had a fast connection I could have reomte desktop :(
[10:45] <localverb> ok
[10:46] <localverb> ok
[10:46] <stgraber> then try a new : sudo apt-get update
[10:46] <localverb> ok
[10:47] <localverb> I canceled it
[10:47] <localverb> it still contains sa
[10:47] <localverb> Man! this sa is killing me. Why doesn't it die!
[10:48] <localverb> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[10:48] <localverb> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[10:48] <localverb> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-security main restricted universe multiverse
[10:48] <localverb> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-proposed main restricted universe multiverse
[10:48] <localverb> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:49] <localverb> This is what I have in sources.list
[10:49] <stgraber> is your computer directly reachable from the net or behind a nat ?
[10:50] <localverb> yes it is behind a NAT
[10:50] <localverb> behind a modem/router at the same time
[10:50] <localverb> adsl modem
[10:50] <davmor2> localverb: what can you ping
[10:50] <localverb> sorry ?
[10:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78005 in qpsmtpd (universe) "[SRU]  request: dapper:qpsmtpd fix for bug #72602" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78005
[10:51] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78006 in beagle (main) "/etc/cron.daily/beagle-crawl-system fails to work because of "set -e"" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78006
[10:51] <davmor2> try : ping <IP_ADDRESS> or whatever your router is
[10:51] <davmor2> then try http://www.google.com
[10:51] <localverb> ok
[10:52] <localverb> I tried google
[10:52] <localverb> but it's no use
[10:53] <davmor2> what about your router?
[10:54] <localverb> I am pinging my modem and it's properly reachable
[10:54] <localverb> it's speedtouch 585i
[10:54] <stgraber> localverb: can you read my private messages ? (I turned my un-registered restriction off but don't know if that works)
[10:54] <localverb> yeah I can read it
[10:55] <davmor2> is your machine in the router dmz
[10:57] <davmor2> if so you may need to change your default dns server ip address to that of the isps
[10:58] <davmor2> /quit
[10:58] <Ubugtu> New bug: #77173 in firefox (main) "Edgy Firefox 2.0: slow, now just crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/77173
[11:20] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78007 in gnome-media (main) "Control de volumen 2.16.1 -no responde al primer click de cierre" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78007
[11:25] <Ubugtu> New bug: #76531 in apport (main) "crash during system log in (dup-of: 77872)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/76531
[11:30] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78008 in Ubuntu "Typo in installer partitioning" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78008
[11:49] <localverb> stgraber >>>>go to private
[11:50] <Ubugtu> New bug: #78009 in dvd-slideshow (multiverse) "New upstream version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/78009


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[22:03] <Bashing-om> UWN553: critique and proof read - final edits ? see any UH OHs ? Been hectic getting this one done.
[22:26] <Bashing-om> Away for a spell .
[22:50] <guiverc> Bashing-om, reads great in my opinion;  I'd suggest one change of "are" to "is"  last blogo article, "KDE FRameworks 5.52"    I suggest "Michael notes in these updates that there *is* support for the fuzzer sanitizer" but really MINOR..   (marked in gdoc also [now])
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[00:02] <Peng_> I get removing whiteboard, but summaries? Why?
[00:02] <wgrant> rockstar: Do you know?
[00:06]  * rockstar reads backchat
[00:06] <rockstar> Peng_, we removed whiteboards and summaries.
[00:07] <rockstar> Peng_, very few people used them.
[00:07] <rockstar> Peng_, we'll probably replace them with some sort of commenting system.
[00:10] <Peng_> Eh, that's a shame.
[00:10] <Peng_> Oh well, whatever.
[00:10] <Peng_> (I mean, replacing them with a commenting system is okay. But there's nothing right now.)
[00:13] <rockstar> Peng_, what did you use them for?
[00:17] <Peng_> Mostly I just copied a commit message to use as the description, and copied the whiteboard to both the branch and related bug.
[00:17] <Peng_> But I figure the whiteboard is useful when there isn't a related bug.
[00:18] <rockstar> Peng_, the bmp has a commit message.
[00:18] <Peng_> I discovered they had been removed when I wanted to use the whiteboard to list all of the reasons a test dev6rr branch couldn't be mirrored.
[00:19] <Peng_> Which obviously doesn't exactly match with normal LP usage.
[00:20] <Peng_> What happens when you edit a branch with a summary or whiteboard on edge? Do they get removed?
[00:25] <rockstar> Peng_, they just won't show up on the UI anymore.
[00:25] <Peng_> Ok.
[01:21] <skierpage> Hi, I have a problem with my account https://bugs.launchpad.net/~skierpage  I think what happened is I filed a bug on SourceForge (see that URL), and when it was migrated to launchpad a<EMAIL_ADDRESS>was auto-created.  But that isn't my normal e-mail.  Is there a way to change an e-mail address, or to transfer "skierpage" to another user?
[01:23] <skierpage> There are requests like this in https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad , should I make it there?
[01:25] <skierpage> No worries, I found https://launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge
[01:55] <rockstar> skierpage, if you ask a question on the Launchpad project, an admin can merge the two accounts.
[01:55] <rockstar> skierpage, oh, looks like you got it worked out.  :)
[01:56] <skierpage> rockstar, thanks.  Yup,  https://launchpad.net/people/+requestmerge and https://launchpad.net/~skierpage/+editemails worked.
[01:57] <skierpage> Nicely done by the way!  It seems SourceForge.net can't merge or retire its bogus<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:51] <skierpage> Should I use bugs.launchpad.net to report bugs about the generally-excellent ubuntu.com web site?
[04:26] <rockstar> skierpage, yes.
[07:04] <daskreech> Hallo
[07:04] <daskreech> Is there a way to get a semi descriptive list of the available PPAs ?
[07:11] <wgrant> daskreech: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=
[08:11] <soren> Is it common for svn imports from SourceForge to fail like this: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/25954354/elasticfox-trunk-log.txt
[08:11] <soren> ...or is it a problem specific to the project being imported?
[09:26] <savvas> when I click on the source package in my PPA it doesn't show the details: https://edge.launchpad.net/~medigeek/+archive/experimental
[09:26] <savvas> it's probably an edge problem, since this one works: https://launchpad.net/~medigeek/+archive/experimental
[09:28] <savvas> here's a screenshot: http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/3393/screenshotbly.png
[10:00] <AnAnt> Hello, how do I remove a project that I've registered ?
[10:03] <intellectronica> AnAnt: you can't. why do you want to do that?
[10:03] <AnAnt> well, I found it was a mistake
[10:03] <AnAnt> not sure though
[10:04] <AnAnt> we have this project sabily-artwork
[10:04] <AnAnt> which actually consists of about 5 packages
[10:04] <intellectronica> AnAnt: you can file a question and an admin will remove the project for you, if the request is legitimate
[10:04] <AnAnt> so I was thinking of making an independant project for each package
[10:05] <AnAnt> so I started one project, but now I think that it won't be of any benefit to have a separate project for each package
[10:29] <LarstiQ> AnAnt: right, sounds like following intellectronica's advice (https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion) seems appropriate
[10:30] <AnAnt> thanks
[10:45] <AnAnt> how can one register a distro on LP ?
[15:29] <VK7HSE> I'm wondering has there at any point been consideration to keep usage stats on current projects? (similar to popularity!) or would something like this regress the overall performance of the launchpad site?
[15:54]  * VK7HSE pidgin decided to fly away! (crash!)
[15:59] <VK7HSE> Take 2  ... I'm wondering has there at any point been consideration to keep usage stats on current projects? (similar to popularity!) or would something like this regress the overall performance of the launchpad site?
[16:00] <LarstiQ> What kind of usage stats? Not that I know.
[16:04] <VK7HSE> LarstiQ: well for instance, I package for a project called Me TV... it would be nice to know (if this is possible) just how many people are using that particular project...
[16:05] <LarstiQ> VK7HSE: right, how do you measure that?
[16:06] <LarstiQ> VK7HSE: Debian and Ubuntu have popcon, but that's optional
[16:06] <VK7HSE> LarstiQ: well that's the issues! you can't...
[16:07] <VK7HSE> LarstiQ: I suppose too it gets into one of those issues where it borders on privacy too...
[16:07] <LarstiQ> VK7HSE: yup
[16:08] <VK7HSE> LarstiQ: but just anonymous usage in general just distro and variant would be nice...
[16:08] <LarstiQ> VK7HSE: the xmms2 project has an `et` component for this
[16:08] <LarstiQ> VK7HSE: you might want to look at that
[16:08] <VK7HSE> ok thanks... :)
[16:09] <LarstiQ> VK7HSE: http://wiki.xmms2.xmms.se/wiki/ET and #xmms2 on freenode
[16:09] <VK7HSE> LarstiQ: ;)
[16:11]  * VK7HSE I see implement in the software don't rely on launchpad for this type of info!
[16:12] <LarstiQ> VK7HSE: indeed
[20:04] <savvas> can someone check bug 366709 please?
[20:35] <synic> where can I post bugs about the ppa system?
[20:44] <jpds> synic: bugs.launchpad.net/soyuz
[20:44] <magcius> That reminds me, is Soyuz going open-source or not?
[20:44] <jpds> No.
[20:44] <magcius> So Launchpad is going open-source, but not Soyuz?
[20:45] <jpds> That's what I heard.
[20:45] <magcius> I wonder if Rocketfuel development would be hosted on Launchpad.
[20:45] <jpds> Mostly because you need a _MASSIVE_ infrastructure to run it.
[20:46] <magcius> jpds, and that's a reason for not releasing it open-source?
[20:46] <jpds> *shrug* - that's what I read.
[20:47] <magcius> Is there anything else that Canonical keeps closed-source?
[21:01] <savvas> synic: what kind of bugs? you can't see the details when you click on a source package in ppa? :)
[22:00] <Saffie_x> Hii xx
[22:49] <Ursinha> hi Saffie_x, how are you today?
[22:49] <Saffie_x> Im good
[22:49] <Ursinha> great :)
[22:49] <Saffie_x> good nd you
[22:50] <Ursinha> I'm fine too
[22:50] <Nafallo> Ursinha: if your pidgin isn't working I want to stab it in the face :-)
[22:50] <Saffie_x> Lol
[22:51] <Ursinha> Nafallo, go for it!
[22:51]  * Ursinha takes the knife and hands Nafallo
[22:51]  * Ursinha restarts pidgin
[22:51] <Nafallo> :-D
[22:51] <Nafallo> Ursinha: sudo apt-get install gajim ;-)
[22:51] <Nafallo> Ursinha: ehrm. no actually!
[22:52] <Nafallo> Ursinha: that would mean you could blame me for when it's not working....
[22:52] <Ursinha> hahahaha
[22:53] <Ursinha> but gajim is only jabber :
[22:53] <Ursinha> :/
[22:53] <Nafallo> Ursinha: FTW!
[22:53] <Ursinha> I use icq
[22:53] <Nafallo> Ursinha: get online and I'll explain why it's win :-)
[22:54] <Ursinha> only me and the russians do
[22:54] <Ursinha> lol
[22:54] <Ursinha> I mean, I use icq and jabber
[22:55] <Nafallo> Ursinha: just get it working for starters then ;-)
[22:55] <Ursinha> Nafallo, my supafast connection will install it in
[22:55] <Ursinha> 5 mins
[22:55] <Ursinha> 0_o
[22:55] <Nafallo> Ursinha: o_O
[22:56] <Nafallo> Ursinha: remind me to put an archive mirror on my laptop for allhands then ;-)
[22:57] <Nafallo> Ursinha: but yes. I've seen it grow and I reckon I'll try and split out the iconthemes etc to a seperate package for karmic
[22:58] <Ursinha> :)
[22:58] <Nafallo> Ursinha: wouldn't mind a wishlist bug ;-)
[22:59] <Nafallo> considering your speed must be 1MB/m :-P
[22:59] <Nafallo> ...
[23:03] <Ursinha> lol
[23:07]  * mneptok uses notes nailed to tortoises
[23:08] <Saffie_x> I LOVE TEA
[23:08] <mneptok> Saffie_x: please no.
[23:09] <synic> savvas: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/25972966/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-i386.exaile-devel_20090425-bzr2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[23:09] <synic> might not be a bug, but runpy is a standard module, so there's no reason it should fail on that.
[23:12] <Saffie_x> i love sweat
[23:12] <Saffie_x> swet
[23:12] <Saffie_x> nd poo
[23:12] <Saffie_x> poo tastes nice like chocolate bisciuts
[23:15] <Saffie_x> hi da
[23:15] <Saffie_x> hi dad
[23:15] <mneptok> Saffie_x: STOP
[23:16] <Saffie_x> okay
[23:16] <mneptok> and that's the end of that
[23:16] <t> indeed.
[23:16]  * mneptok drizzles pure, raw fury over tomaw
[23:16] <mneptok> *muah*
[23:17] <t> hehe
[23:17] <t> I'll stick around in case he tries to
[23:18] <mneptok> did you k: mail.scoffer.net ?
[23:18] <mneptok> (seems (s)he was connecting multiple clients)
[23:18] <t> there were a few clients from there yes
[23:18] <mneptok> *noddle*
[23:18] <t> one parted shortly after I joined
[23:19] <t> given the hostname it's probably some expoitable host anyway
[23:19] <mneptok> t: don't take it personally. we adore you.
[23:19] <t> :)
[23:19] <Snova> Oh! t = tomaw, and I was wondering who would have such a short nick.
[23:19] <t> I have too many channels for a single connection to handle
[23:20] <mneptok> t: i tried that excuse with my wife. she still won;t let me have mistresses. :/
[23:20] <Ursinha> ouch
[23:20] <t> haha
[23:21] <Snova> Even being able to change the limit? Wow.
[23:21] <t> There are two limits, 20 and 120.  I should probably cut down.
[23:52] <ripps> PPA Build Machines: i386: 323 builds waiting in queue
[23:52] <ripps> what's going on here?
[23:58] <Nafallo> ripps: ehrm. most likely people wanting packages built... :-)
[23:58] <SamB> ripps: why would that be unusual?
[23:58] <ripps> Nafallo: No, I'm talking about it being i386 specifically, lpia=0 amd64=12
[23:59] <Nafallo> ripps: ARCH=ALL
[23:59] <Nafallo> ehrm.
[23:59] <Nafallo> ARCH=ANY really :-)
[23:59] <Nafallo> or no. damn. was a long time since I thought about that stuff.
[23:59] <SamB> what, the arch-independent packages all build on i386?