[00:04] <peacefulman> anyone else have an issue with vmware player with ubuntu 20.04?
[00:05] <peacefulman> compiling kernel modules I mean
[00:05] <jhutchins> peacefulman: Last issue I had was that it wouldn't "play" 64b, only 32.  That was four, maybe five years ago.
[00:06] <jhutchins> peacefulman: Since then I use vbox.
[01:51] <oerheks> !people
[02:52] <Finch> Welcome to International Advanced Direct Connect Hub with Encryption Security, Unicode and IPv6 support. We are for a multipolar peace! https://dchub.one
[03:20] <oops> i have a wish to but a creative sound-blaster internal sound card for listening music, but that sound card haven't linux driver support, i search internet and no result found, my question is  whether the sound-blaster internl sound card such as ae-7 etc have linux driver now?
[03:33] <oerheks> oops look into your bios for ac'97 setting.
[03:34] <oerheks> most onboard chipsets do have 2 settings, choose ac'97
[03:35] <oerheks> else any creative is supported, i don;t know why it does not work for you
[03:39] <oops> oerheks: i haven't bought it yet now , i am afraid it doesn't be supported  so i ask this question beforehand , so i can buy that sound card without changing my os to Windows, can't it?
[03:40] <oerheks> no way to answer your question. i already said that any soundblaster is supported.
[03:41] <oops> ok, thank you , i get it
[03:41] <oerheks> and i do not support windows.
[04:10] <Drazur> Greetings. I'm trying to install Kubuntu 22.04 from a Live USB in a PC without UEFI (only Legacy BIOS). But after preparing partitions I get the following message:
[04:10] <Drazur> No EFI System Partition was found. This system will likely not be able to boot successfully, and the installation process may fail.
[04:20] <Bashing-om> Drazur: "after preparing partitions" Please sjow the channel in a pastebin the out put of terminal command -from that live usb-: sudo fdisk -lu .
[04:21] <Drazur> OK, Bashing-om. What does sjow mean?
[04:21] <Bashing-om> Drazur: Typo :( show*
[04:24] <Drazur> Thanks, Bashing-om. Here's the result of sudo fdisk -lu: https://pastebin.com/P3DuR2re
[04:25] <Bashing-om> Drazur: Looking :)
[04:26] <Drazur> I ran this command inside the Live USB session.
[04:29] <Bashing-om> Drazur: Yeah tlls us what we need to know from the live environment. >> "/dev/sda4       234430464 468860927 234430464 111.8G 83 Linux" is the ubuntu install partition ?
[04:29] <Bashing-om> tells* Yored and not paying close enough attention :(
[04:29] <Bashing-om> tired*
[04:30] <Drazur> It is the partition where I want to install it. Currently, it has Kubuntu 20.04 installed.
[04:41] <Drazur> Bashing-om, someone at #kubuntu told me that I can ignore this no EFI warning because my motherboard (from 2011, lol) does not support UEFI nor Secure Boot.
[04:45] <Bashing-om> Drazur: Well one can reboot and see what results - I too do not have UEFI system, I have never seen this warning - booting up to 20.04 that is.
[04:46] <Drazur> When I installed 20.04, I also didn't get that warning, Bashing-om.
[04:47] <Drazur> I'll try to ignore the warning, and see what happens.
[04:48] <Bashing-om> Drazur: Rebooting sounds like a plan - when in doubt one can look from journalctl at the boot log.
[04:58] <Drazur> Install is about to finish, Bashing-om. I'll have to logout to restart my PC when finished.
[05:04] <guiverc> Bashing-om, fyi:  that 'someone' was me; I'd not noticed drazur was posting in multiple channels
[05:06] <Bashing-om> guiverc: :D Hope to see all good in the end :D
[05:09] <guiverc> :)
[05:31] <highrate> be cool to see as many file exploring options have, especially puttin the latest files on top
[05:32] <highrate> just installed the latest ubuntu
[05:32] <highrate> thought there would have been more progress
[05:33] <highrate> i dont see how those features would hard to implement
[05:34] <highrate> be cool to see as many file exploring options as windows 10 have, especially puttin the latest files on top
[05:35] <highrate> sorry had to rewrite that
[05:54] <rana_ans> Hi, I deleted linux-swap to merge an unallocated space with the linux partition and re-created the linux-swap, all done using gparted on a live iso.
[05:54] <rana_ans> I was told to update some UUID which I forgot and I dont know what it is or what not, can you help me with this matter please
[06:01] <rana_ans> anyone who could help?
[06:02] <guiverc> rana_ans, you can use `blkid` usually to list UUIDs for drives to see what's there
[06:03] <Hash> what do you guys know about linux phones?
[06:03] <InPhase> rana_ans: And then you probably want to adjust the value in /etc/fstab
[06:03] <rana_ans> guiverc: so if it shows everything, its all good, right?
[06:03] <Hash> I'm guessing play store apps and this that/ etc doesn't work there?>
[06:04] <guiverc> a UUID is a unique identifier ID code that allows you to refer to drives in a manner that doesn't change... It'll show what's connected; you check yourself if it's correct in the file-system table (/etc/fstab)
[06:04] <guiverc> Hash, this is Ubuntu Support; not a Linux Phone room
[06:04] <Hash> You do realize there's Ubuntu for phones?
[06:04] <InPhase> rana_ans: You can "cat /proc/swaps" to see what's active for swap.  If what you want active is active, all good.
[06:04] <guiverc> Hash, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for non Ubuntu support questions, or an appropriate room for your question
[06:05] <Hash> https://ubuntu-touch.io/ https://phone.docs.ubuntu.com/en/devices/
[06:05] <guiverc> Ubuntu Phones is now Lorimi & supported by UBPorts and not Ubuntu .. https://ubports.com/
[06:06] <Hash> Hmm.
[06:09] <rana_ans> can I share an SS of whats in /etc/fstab here? it shows UUIDs
[06:10] <rana_ans> !paste
[06:38] <plugger> what time is it
[06:45] <Unit193> 02:45
[08:34] <Hash> I accidentally deleted some UFW rules I shouldn't have deleted.
[08:34] <Hash> Does ubuntu/ufw keep a backup at all of any rules?
[08:48] <alkisg> Hash: yes i think somewhere under /etc/ufw
[08:49] <Hash> I had to restore from a 6 mo old backup.
[08:49] <Hash> No backups ubuntu keeps if you edit ufw rules.
[08:50] <alkisg> Hash: did you look into the directory i said?
[08:50] <alkisg> Because ufw keeps backups there for all my installations
[08:51] <Hash> They are not backups.
[08:52] <alkisg> What are they?
[08:52] <Hash> They are normal ufw configs where rules are saved. If you edit ufw rules using 'ufw allow something etc.' those /etc/ufw/user.rules etc files get edited immediately and ther is no backup.
[08:52] <alkisg> They even have the date on them
[08:52] <Hash> If you accidentally delete some rules you didn't mean to, there is no way to get them back
[08:53] <Hash> You have to manually copy /etc/ufw/user.rules|user6.rules yourself to a backup location.
[08:53] <Hash> Only then will you have backups. I restored from an older server image.
[08:53] <Hash> ufw should keep some files with filenames dated, backups of previous configs, if you edit using 'ufw' commandline, mabye like 10 previous files or something.
[08:54] <Hash> That would be a useful feature.
[09:19] <Gulag> hii
[09:24] <iomari891> greetings, is there a way to send a popup message to another system in my network?
[09:25] <gordonjcp> iomari891: like "NET SEND" in the old Windows For Workgroup days?
[09:25] <hans_> why is bup unavailable in 20.04?  it's available in both 18.04 and 22.04
[09:27] <arg_> iomari891: specifying the xserver with xmessage might be enough..other way around tho.
[09:29] <iomari891> I thought there would be a general tool for that.
[09:30] <iomari891> I want to get a popup whenever someone joins the network in the office.
[11:02] <cbreak> iomari891: it'd be crazy nowadays to have a service running that lets anyone send popups to you
[11:03] <cbreak> but you can trivially wrte something like that if you really want to
[11:06] <cbreak> iomari891: on the receiver side, run 'netcat -lku 9999 | xargs -n 1 notify-send'
[11:06] <cbreak> on the sender side run 'netcat -u hostname 9999'
[11:15] <groxi> hi, are all packages in the main repos open source, or not necessarily?
[11:16] <groxi> i mean the main ubuntu repos (main, contrib, non-free etc...), i'm not asking about PPAs
[11:28] <cbreak> I wouldn't expect everything in non-free to be open source...
[11:37] <lotuspsychje> !sources | groxi
[11:41] <cbreak> https://packages.ubuntu.com/ has sources listed for packages
[12:01] <mickael1> exit
[12:11] <takki> hello does anyone know how to install droidcam on Ubuntu 20.0.4?
[12:22] <takki> hello does anyone know how to install droidcam on Ubuntu 20.0.4?
[12:23] <Maik> takki: from a google search: https://ykamal.com/how-to-use-your-android-device-as-a-webcam-in-ubuntu-with-droidcam/
[12:24] <Maik> and it's 20.04 not 20.0.4
[12:24] <takki> i'll try it thanks
[12:24] <Maik> you're welcome
[12:24] <takki> ohh sorry im just new to linux hahaha
[12:55] <ForeverNoob[m]> Hello, I don't think I've ever set my keyring password but it's asking me for the "Default keyring" password. I think it's from gnome-keyring. How do I (re)set it?
[12:56] <cbreak> ForeverNoob[m]: is it your login password?
[12:56] <cbreak> possibly a previous login password
[12:56] <ForeverNoob[m]> I tried my login / sudo password but that didn't work.
[13:01] <ForeverNoob[m]> cbreak: This is also the only login password I had. On a side note: Is it actually safe to simply remove the gnome-keyring system or is it likely it will break some stuff?
[13:02] <cbreak> it'd break stuff that relies on it
[13:03] <cbreak> but if you mean just the keyring files for your user: you can remove them, if you're fine losing what's inside them
[13:03] <cbreak> (I did remove the whole gnome-keyring thing when I switched to kde... was fine... kde has its own keyring thing :)
[13:05] <ForeverNoob[m]> I'm using KeepassXC and I think it's clashing with gnome-keyring. So I'll just remove it and install it back if it breaks (some serious) stuff.
[13:58] <Gokul> msg NickServ INFO GOkul
[14:03] <Maik> ircuser-1: please fix your connection :)
[14:03] <Maik> err... irl25519 ^
[14:48] <uzhhsc> upgraded the kernel version to 5.15.0-41-generic now i got terrible screen tearing . How to get that got damn boot menut to select the older kernel.
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> uzhhsc: are you on intel graphics?
[14:49] <uzhhsc> yes
[14:49] <uzhhsc> can hardly reay
[14:50] <uzhhsc> read
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> uzhhsc: hold shift at boot to enter grub and select older kernel
[14:50] <uzhhsc> tried shift didn't help
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> how about esc
[14:51] <uzhhsc> pressing it rapidly or holding pressed?
[14:52] <uzhhsc> my eyes bleed from tearing. will try pressing esc
[14:52] <tomreyn> multiple times, or at the right time
[14:54] <gyxvbq> ok, I had to select advanced options and then the older kernel. Now tearing has gone
[14:55] <gyxvbq> motherf-rs, this is alredy the second time they broke my video subsystem with the same god damn tearing effect
[14:56] <gyxvbq> how the hell this even be possible to the god damn LTS?
[14:56] <gyxvbq> I'm really angry
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> gyxvbq: wich kernel version are you running now?
[14:59] <gyxvbq> 5.15.0-30-generic
[15:00] <tomreyn> and your ubuntu version is? and your graphics card?
[15:00] <tomreyn> oh intel graphics you said
[15:01] <tomreyn> so just intel, nothing else?
[15:01] <gyxvbq> https://imgur.com/xTif2Ss.png
[15:01] <lotuspsychje> (its not my intel flickering bug, as that one exists from 5.15.x series
[15:01] <tomreyn> and are you using wayland or xorg?
[15:02] <luis220413> gyxvbq: How long ago did you upgrade to 22.04, or this is a fresh install?
[15:03] <gyxvbq> 2 months ago or so
[15:03] <luis220413> What version were you using?
[15:03] <luis220413> Type the following command: apt list --installed linux-image-*
[15:03] <tomreyn> i3 only works with xorg, right?
[15:03] <gyxvbq> right
[15:03] <luis220413> gyxvbq: Execute the following command: apt list --installed linux-image-*
[15:03] <gyxvbq> its 30 and 41 are installed
[15:04] <luis220413> gyxvbq: Show us the output
[15:04] <tomreyn> on a pastebin
[15:05] <luis220413> gyxvbq: It is not recommended to upgrade from 20.04 to 22.04 before 22.04.1 is released (that is, August 4).
[15:05] <gyxvbq> linux-image-5.15.0-30-generic/jammy-updates,now 5.15.0-30.31 amd64 [installed,automatic]
[15:05] <_WEZ_> !paste
[15:06] <luis220413> gyxvbq: Is your system up-to-date?
[15:06] <gyxvbq> [200~https://imgur.com/ZR2c0Jj.png~
[15:06] <luis220413> https://imgur.com/ZR2c0Jj.png
[15:07] <luis220413> gyxvbq: It seems that you upgrade your system too infrequently. I recommend you to upgrade at least weekly.
[15:07] <luis220413> These kernels were released 2-4 months apart.
[15:07] <gyxvbq> https://imgur.com/JQUsLBu.png
[15:08] <gyxvbq> so I'd say its uptodate
[15:08] <gyxvbq> updating my system makes it borked. NO UPDATES
[15:08] <luis220413> gyxvbq: Type y to the prompt. The preferred way to upgrade a system is through Software Updater (update-manager command). These 8 updates are safe.
[15:09] <luis220413> gyxvbq: You can disable non-security updates via software-properties-gtk.
[15:09] <gyxvbq> how this should solve the problem with defect kernel??
[15:09] <gyxvbq> I have no such thing software-properties-gtk.
[15:10] <luis220413> Is the 5.4 kernel incompatible with any hardware you use?
[15:11] <luis220413> gyxvbq: Ubuntu kernels almost always solve security issues (and therefore published as security updates), so this should not solve your kernel problem.
[15:12] <gyxvbq> thats what I ask - how the hell the upgrade from 5.15.0-30.31 to 5.15.0-41.43 could possibly bork my video subsystem
[15:12] <luis220413> gyxvbq: Is the 5.4 kernel incompatible with any hardware you use?
[15:12] <luis220413> gyxvbq: Please file a bug with the command ubuntu-bug linux.
[15:12] <luis220413> If you do not have this command installed, run sudo apt install apport
[15:13] <luis220413> gyxvbq: I already reported a video subsystem issue as bug 1979905. Is this your issue?
[15:13] <gyxvbq> now, how can I purge that 41'th kernel? Because if I try `sudo apt purge linux-image-5.15.0-41-generic' it would The following additional packages will be installed `linux-image-unsigned-5.15.0-41-generic'
[15:14] <gyxvbq> it's bs me
[15:15] <gyxvbq> install apport??  But this is not recommended. I suggest that you backup your data, downgrade to 20.04 with the 5.4 kernel (that can be done without experiencing your issue by install Ubuntu Server 20.04 and then sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop) and restore from the backup.
[15:19] <luis220413> gyxvbq: Why is apport crap? apport is an utility to report crashes and bugs in Ubuntu systems.
[15:19] <luis220413> gyxvbq: Please advance with that purge (that other package is another 5.15.0-41 kernel), but that is a short-term solution.
[15:20] <gyxvbq> because it shouln't be ingegrated that deep into the system and purging it should not delete imprtant packages
[15:20] <luis220413> gyxvbq: That kind of removals (those that remove the metapackage for your desktop) can put your system in an unrecoverable state.
[15:21] <luis220413> *desktop environment
[15:21] <gyxvbq> and no , I'm not goingn to reinstall nothing, I have a life to live
[15:23] <luis220413> gyxvbq: If you do not report your issue and remain with the 5.15.0-30 kernel (with dozens of vulnerabilities), attackers will almost surely hack you in a few months.
[15:23] <luis220413> And compromise your system
[15:23] <Some_Person> I have an audio device that doesn't seem to be working. It is built into my Thunderbolt monitor. The microphone works, but audio output to it does not
[15:24] <Some_Person> What should I do?
[15:24] <gyxvbq> from my experience with linux upgrading is way more dangerous to my system than hackers attacks
[15:26] <luis220413> gyxvbq: I arrived late at the channel. What is your specific issue?
[15:26] <luis220413> That is, when your discussion was already underway.
[15:27] <Some_Person> It shows up as "Analog Output - LG UltraFine Display Audio" and "Digital Output (S/PDIF) - LG UltraFine Display Audio", but neither of these work
[15:31] <gyxvbq> same thing what I had in 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZIR4qnfOH8
[15:41] <ioria> gyxvbq, have you ever tried a custom xorg.conf ?
[15:48] <graingert[m]> is there a way to have per-output theming?
[15:48] <graingert[m]> I have an OLED screen and I want an AMOLED black theme on it
[15:49] <graingert[m]> and I have an LCD screen and I want a light theme on it
[15:50] <oerheks> different wallpapers can be done, but themes .. dunno
[15:55] <ravage> graingert[m], i think the simple answer is no here
[15:56] <graingert[m]> well per-output scaling didn't work for a while :p
[15:56] <jhutchins> gyxvbq: I presume this means you make complete backups before you upgrade.
[15:56] <graingert[m]> is there a place to report it? what component is it? GNOME?
[15:56] <oerheks> one can file a bugrepost as wishlist..
[15:57] <oerheks> c/report
[15:57] <ravage> it sounds like a feature request to gnome. but also like a lot of work for something 99,9% of users dont need
[15:57] <ravage> so i would not wait for it to happen soon
[15:58] <gyxvbq> jhutchins , what does?
[15:59] <oerheks> if one does not have a backup already, the data is not important
[16:00]  * ravage looks at his laptop sticker "No backup, no mercy"
[16:00] <lotuspsychje> :p
[16:02] <cbreak> didn't gnome remove theming recently?
[16:02] <cbreak> and tried to force this adwaita thing onto everyone?
[16:02] <cbreak> ... maybe I remember this incorrectly
[16:02] <oerheks> so, adwaita is not a theme?
[16:02] <cbreak> it's a library I think
[18:24] <graingert[m]> my trackpad makes the sound of a predator during boot
[18:27] <graingert[m]> is there a wiki specifically for xps 13 plus quirks?
[18:29] <oerheks> if you have not found it, i guess not.
[18:39] <Some_Person> Got my display audio working. Had to unmute it and turn it up in alsamixer
[18:52] <jhutchins> graingert[m]: How do you know the trackpad is making the noise?
[18:53] <jhutchins> Some_Person: The old fixes are still good.
 "graingert: How do you know the..." <- it took a while to debug
 "graingert: How do you know the..." <- but it feels like it moves
[19:13] <graingert[m]> it's got a haptic simulated trackpad
[19:13] <graingert[m]> and it chirps at boot
[19:14] <tomreyn> https://www.reddit.com/r/DellXPS/comments/vqv1jt/dell_xps_13_plus_touchpad_haptic_feedback/
[19:15] <tomreyn> but this really has nothing to do with the OS running on it
[19:30] <jhutchins> graingert[m]: Does it affect performance in any way?
[19:31] <graingert[m]> jhutchins: No
 "https://www.reddit.com/r/DellXPS..." <- Doesn't happen in windows
[19:33] <jhutchins> Lots of things don't happen in Windows.  That's why we run Linux.
[19:44] <tomreyn> graingert[m]: others who posted there seem to disagree
[19:48] <graingert[m]> tomreyn: Doesn't seem like my issue
[19:48] <graingert[m]> There's no high pitch change
[19:48] <DarkenedGentlema> On the nexus devices is the mgmt port ment for a VPC keepalive link or is that just what this example doc shows to avoid wasting a expensive port on a link that basically just plays marco pollo with the other deivce?
[19:48] <graingert[m]> * There's no change to a higher pitch
[20:10] <tomreyn> DarkenedGentlema: which ubuntu release is your ubuntu support question about?
[20:10] <filename> noone knews
[20:12] <DarkenedGentlema> tomreyn? lol, sorry I'm in the wrong channel.
[20:13] <tomreyn> this makes more sense now ;)
[20:14]  * filename .txt
[20:19] <tomreyn> filename: your ban just expired. can you hold back on the nonsense or do we need to extend?
[20:21]  * filename request for extend has been sent ...
[20:24] <DarkenedGentlema> lol
[20:25] <DarkenedGentlema> Damn, thats some agressive banning on the subnets! /18's
[20:27] <tomreyn> DarkenedGentlema: if you have questions regarding channel management, there's #ubuntu-ops
[20:27] <DarkenedGentlema> I do not, he asked for it forsure.
[20:28] <DarkenedGentlema> I just havn't seen anyone ban a giant subnet like that in a while :)
[20:29] <mybalzitch> oh its russian ip space
[20:29] <tomreyn> let's get back on topic, please, ubuntu support
 "Doesn't seem like my issue" <- And I thought I updated the firmware
[20:32] <tomreyn> graingert[m]: to check:  journalctl -b | grep DMI:
[20:33] <oerheks> those posts tell 1.4.0 gives that issue..
 "graingert: to check:  journalctl..." <- `Jul 23 18:56:58 conscientious kernel: DMI: Dell Inc. XPS 9320/0KNXGD, BIOS 1.4.0 05/13/2022`
[20:40] <tomreyn> graingert[m]: i am pleased to see this command worked for you.
[21:21] <graingert[m]> is there a way to add a grub boot entry that basically does `efibootmgr --bootnext 0007` and restarts? Windows+bitlocker doesn't support chainloading
[21:46] <InPhase> 0% [Connecting to kazooie.canonical.com  ...  0% [Connecting to banjo.canonical.com
[21:46] <InPhase> ??  This is the first time I think I've ever seen an apt install fail from a problem not on my end.  Are all the servers down?  *gasp*
[21:47] <oerheks> no, kazooie is known for issues, try main
[21:48] <InPhase> My sources is set to us.archive.ubuntu.com
[21:48] <InPhase> Ah, it came back now.
[21:49] <toddc> I just noticed the us issue also
[21:49] <oerheks> maybe they just recieved updates..
[21:49] <InPhase> oerheks: For future references, for "main" would I strip off the "us." part?
[21:49] <oerheks> manually yes.
[21:49] <InPhase> Ok.
[21:50] <toddc> or just waut a while
[21:50] <toddc> wait
[21:50] <oerheks> but .us is huge, so i wonder if it was a hickup or update..
[21:50] <InPhase> toddc: Waiting awhile is so against the apt install philosophy.  :)
[21:50] <ravage> we had reports about the us mirror here more often during the last week
[21:51] <ravage> you can also choose any mirror near you from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[22:40] <cbreak> anyone got a clue about snaps? I want to enable firefox snap support for 1password
[22:41] <cbreak> for now, it can't interact with the 1password application
[22:41] <cbreak> this is obviously snap's fault, since it isolates firefox from the rest of the os, so I expect there to be some place to configure which restrictions apply, and to lift some restrictions
[22:46] <oerheks> no jammy firefix in the mozilla ppa..
[22:47] <oerheks> not security but team ppa https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=jammy
[22:50] <cbreak> cool!
[22:50] <jhutchins> cbreak: https://support.google.com/chrome/a/answer/9025903?hl=en
[22:50] <cbreak> jhutchins: how's installing spyware going to help me? :)
[22:51] <cbreak> the ppa seems like a better option
[22:52] <cbreak> I'd like to stick with ubuntu's supported solution, but the snap is kind of annoying, so having the option of bypassing it with a ppa is nice
[22:52] <cbreak> it's even newer than the snap version :)
[22:53] <kostkon> cbreak, afaik firefox snap can't work with password managers yet, it's something that's coming though afaik again
[22:54] <cbreak> yes, I think the same
[22:54] <apc> Hello, I get the following error: E: Failed to fetch http://nz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jammy-backports/InRelease  403  Forbidden [IP: ::ffff:146.xxx 80]
[22:54] <cbreak> but if snaps can be configured, maybe I can punch a hole of the right size through it
[22:54] <cbreak> so far, the documentation on how snaps work has been ... lacking
[22:54] <apc> is there an easy way to bypass? i'm in hospital
[22:55] <oerheks> apc, just change to main
[22:55] <cbreak> https://snapcraft.io/docs/security-sandboxing and co helps a bit, but ... no hints on how to create a custom opening that I've found...
[22:55] <apc> main.archive?
[22:55] <apc> @oerheks
[22:55] <oerheks> yes, in update settings.
[22:56] <oerheks> cbreak, one can help keeping this issue alive https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1964546
[22:56] <apc> cheers
[22:57] <ravage> that forbidden could be the forced proxy on your network there
[22:57] <ravage> can you reach other mirrors on the official list?
[22:57] <tomreyn> looong gone ;)
[22:58] <ravage> damn
[22:58] <ravage> im on the phone
[22:58] <ravage> don't see the leaves :D
[22:58] <oerheks> his cheers suggested that main works
[22:58] <tomreyn> might be slow from NZ, though
[22:59] <ravage> his link took some time to open here :)
[23:00] <cbreak> oerheks: hmm... it asks me to provide an ubuntu1 password... :D
[23:02] <oerheks> duhh?
[23:05] <cbreak> ... without a password manager... ... it was a joke :P


[01:31] <RoadRunner> having problems connecting a printer to xub 16.04; troubleshooter says  'The CUPS print spooler does not appear to be running. To correct this, choose System>Administration>Services'. Where is that?
[01:47] <RoadRunner> problems connecting new printer to xub 16.04; printer troubleshooter says CUPS service isn't running. Where do I find 'Services' to start it?
[02:08] <RoadRunner> anybody in?
[02:09] <well_laid_lawn> RoadRunner:  generally there's people about
[02:09] <well_laid_lawn> but not everyone can answer every uestion
[02:10] <RoadRunner> well_laid_lawn: do you know where Services are hiding?
[02:12] <well_laid_lawn> RoadRunner:  serices are handled by systemd
[02:13] <well_laid_lawn> !systemd
[02:13] <well_laid_lawn> the second link has info for controlling services
[02:17] <RoadRunner> thank you, had a quick look through; is the only way to deal with this through terminal - no convinient GUI app?
[02:19] <well_laid_lawn> RoadRunner:  afaik no gui for services
[02:19] <well_laid_lawn> it is pretty straight forward though
[02:21] <RoadRunner> when I set up my xub 16.04 box, no printer was connected to it; perhaps that's why the needed service was disabled? on a new install with a connected printer, is the printer usually automaticaly set up without additional action by users?
[02:22] <well_laid_lawn> I nevver use a printer so I can't say
[02:22] <well_laid_lawn> but enabling and starting the cups service should be an easy start to sorting that out
[02:23] <well_laid_lawn> !printing
[02:29] <RoadRunner> thank you :)
[02:29] <well_laid_lawn> luck
[02:39] <RoadRunner> well_laid_lawn: hmm, not much luck so far... to: 'sudo systemctl start cups.service' get 'Failed to start cups.service: Unit cups.service not found.
[02:41] <well_laid_lawn> youu have to enable a service before starting it
[02:41] <RoadRunner> ah
[02:41] <well_laid_lawn> did you follow the printing links above ?
[02:47] <RoadRunner> not yet, just your second link so far; but regarding enabling: to 'sudo systemctl enable cups.service' get 'Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory
[03:09] <RoadRunner> well_laid_lawn: went through all of the links you suggested; my printer: brother hl-2040 was described by one user as working with xub 10  and both a driver and an install tool are available from Brother. But will do me any good if I can't enable 'cups'?
[03:10] <RoadRunner> *will it...
[03:12] <well_laid_lawn> RoadRunner:  I was afk. you might have to install cups - Lie I said I don't use a printer
[03:12] <well_laid_lawn> maybe someone else can help with that in a bit
[03:16] <RoadRunner> thanks anyway :); cups -Lie is full name of the package? Synaptic tells me I don't have it installed, so I gess I'll grab it from there
[03:17] <RoadRunner> just suprprised it wasn't installed during the original install automaticaly...
[03:19] <kryten> I'd check for "cups" though, "Lie" was just a misspelled "Like"..
[03:20] <kryten> And fwiw, Xubuntu 16.04 is end-of-life for about a year now.
[03:21] <RoadRunner> kryten: "Lie" lol - stupid me :) and yes I'll be transitioning to 20 when it becomes available.
[03:26] <Bashing-om> RoadRunner: 20.04 is up for testing now: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2020-April/004948.html
[03:30] <RoadRunner> Bashing-om: 20.04 is bleeding edge now; for now I just want to print with what I have and according to Synaptic I do have some cups stuff installed yet can't seem to enable that service
[03:31] <Bashing-om> RoadRunner: Not too up on what it takes to enable printing, sorry :(
[03:32] <RoadRunner> kryten: any suggestions on what may be preventing me from enabling cups?
[09:11] <xu-help44w> I am having issues with HDMI Audio
[09:11] <xu-help44w> It shows unplugged
[09:11] <xu-help44w> no matter what
[09:11] <xu-help44w> but the video is working
[09:14] <diogenes_> xu-help44w, run: inxi -G | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:15] <diogenes_> share link
[09:15] <Unit193> -c0 will strip colors and make it easier to read.
[09:16] <diogenes_> inxi -Gc0 | nc termbin.com 9999
[09:16] <diogenes_> thanks Unit193
[09:17] <Unit193> Glad to be of help.
[09:18] <xu-help44w> Graphics:  Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RS780M [Mobility Radeon HD 3200]           Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.20.5 )           drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)           Resolution<EMAIL_ADDRESS>         OpenGL: renderer: AMD RS780 (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.3.0-45-generic, LLVM 9.0.0)           version: 3.3 Mesa 19.2.8
[09:18] <xu-help44w> https://termbin.com/zskr9
[09:19] <diogenes_> xu-help44w, look in pavucontrol > configuration
[09:21] <xu-help44w> It shows
[09:21] <xu-help44w> Digital Stero (HDMI) Output (Unplugged)\
[09:22] <diogenes_> there are many options with HDMI.
[09:22] <xu-help44w> all HDMI options are showing as unplugged
[09:23] <diogenes_> xu-help44w, has it ever worked with linux?
[09:23] <xu-help44w> haven't tried it before
[09:26] <diogenes_> xu-help44w, maybe this could help: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1032811/ubuntu-18-04-no-hdmi-audio-with-amd-radeon-hd-7870
[09:32] <xu-help44w> tried it
[09:32] <xu-help44w> but doesn't help
[09:36] <xu-help44w> Reboot after the changes helps though
[09:37] <xu-help44w> sound is working now.
[09:37] <xu-help44w> Thanks for the help
[09:37] <diogenes_> xu-help44w, what command worked?
[09:38] <xu-help44w> pacmd
[09:39] <diogenes_> ok good to know.
[09:39] <xu-help44w> mkdir -p $HOME/binecho '#!/bin/bash# Temporary workaround to restore HDMI until kernel is fixed## Paste at command line:#    aplay -l | grep HDMI## Example return:#    card 1: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]# That is card 1, device 3 so "1,3" and "_1_3"## If actual numbers are different than example, replace# the "1,3" and "_1_3" in
[09:39] <xu-help44w> lines below with the returned numbers.#pulseaudio --killrm $HOME/.config/pulse/*waitpacmd load-module module-alsa-sink device=hw:1,3pacmd set-default-sink alsa_output.hw_1_3pacmd set-sink-volume alsa_output.hw_1_3 35000' > $HOME/bin/fixHDMIaudiochmod +x $HOME/bin/fixHDMIaudioechocat $HOME/bin/fixHDMIaudio
[11:21] <MoogusShow> Hullo. Is there a difference between installing the 20.04 daily now and waiting until the official release? I have used the daily on a virtual machine, but I want to go ahead and install it for real.
[11:27] <Unit193> Technically there could be slight differences between if you installed now and installed with the final, but...Not dramatic.
[11:28] <MoogusShow> But, I won't have to install the official release, I can just keep updating, right? Sorry for the very basic question.
[11:30] <Unit193> Yeah.
[11:31] <MoogusShow> Thank you. :-[
[11:45] <jphilips> Two more days left in the #UbuntuTestingWeek, so all those interested to help improve the stability of this month's Xubuntu 20.04, please read this - https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-20-04-testing-week/
[14:32] <Sumit44> i use xubutu, i want to transfer file from windows 10 to xubuntu through ethernet cable
[14:32] <Sumit44> is it possible if yes pls help/guide. shall be grateful
[14:36] <Sumit44> =L
[14:41] <Sumit44> !! pls help
[15:32] <ernalve> Hi, I'm receiving unwanted notifications with ads on the panel. How do I delete this? Is it malware? I have a screenshot if it helps.
[15:35] <diogenes_> ernalve, screen.
[15:40] <ernalve> https://imgur.com/a/xp2BVSg
[15:43] <diogenes_> ernalve, maybe it's from twitter, i don't habla espagnol.
[16:07] <sumit333> i use xubuntu i wanted to know can i transfer files from windows 10 to this xubuntu.
[16:07] <sumit333> if possible pls help/guide
[16:07] <sumit333> throgh ethernet cable
[16:08] <diogenes_> sumit333, with samba.
[16:08] <diogenes_> !samba
[16:13] <genii> It is also now possible to enable NFS in Windows
[18:44] <Hamilton> I'm getting accidental selection on right-clicking stuff...On rightclick the menu appears but it immedeatly selects the entry which my mouse is on
[18:45] <Hamilton> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=591258#c79
[19:15] <Gunstick> greetings. 2 days ago I was here about lz4 in mkinitrd, well my repair did not work. system is unbootable. kernel panic "unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)"
[19:15] <Gunstick> tried to set up grub, wiith no effect
[19:16] <Gunstick> it is an full disk encrypted lvm
[19:37] <xu-help8w> i use xubuntu, i wanted to know can i transfer files from windows 10 to this xubuntu. if possible pls help/guidethrogh ethernet cable
[19:39] <Gunstick> for m above problem, trying this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/844132/how-to-repair-boot-on-luks-encrypted-harddrive
[19:39] <Gunstick> xubuntu can mount windows shares. that's probably the easiest way
[19:39] <xu-help8w> how to setup
[19:40] <Gunstick> xu-help8w: that on xubuntu the File Manager
[19:40] <Gunstick> I cannot tell you how to set up windows to do a file share.
[19:41] <xu-help8w> pls help i am novice
[19:41] <Gunstick> maybe someone else can help but best idea is to ask in a windows group how to create a share on your network.
[19:43] <xu-help8w> windows share if i do can i view it in xubuntu
[19:43] <Gunstick> yes
[19:44] <xu-help8w> in which forum i need to ask for setup of windows share
[19:45] <Gunstick> The last time I installed a windows was in 1995, so sorry
[19:46] <xu-help8w> ....
[19:47] <xu-help8w> xUbuntu to xubuntu can it be possible
[19:47] <xu-help8w> i mean both the pcs same od
[19:48] <xu-help8w> os
[19:49] <Gunstick> yes
[19:57] <Hamilton> Gunstick, What exactly do you want?
[19:58] <Hamilton> Do you want to for example share a directory over local WiFi network so files are accessible on browsers?
[19:58] <Gunstick> It is not me but xu-help8w who wants that
[19:58] <Gunstick> (I am still working on solving my kernel panic with grub)
[20:00] <Gunstick> lol, now it wants to boot from the live-install I used to reconfigure grub!
[20:36] <Gunstick> I guess this is my issue: no cryptsetup in initramfs, despite root being encrypted. why isn't cryptsetup by default copied to initramfs if there is an issue to make it work reliably? https://askubuntu.com/questions/381624/lvm-on-encrypted-partition-drops-me-to-initramfs-root-missing


[03:09] <kdavyd> Hi All. If this isn't the right channel, please point me the right way. Has anyone ever successfully managed to integrate MAAS node power controls and vSphere nodes via vCenter without going through a bunch of manual shenanigans and pinning VMs to individual vSphere hosts?
[03:12] <kdavyd> I see two ways - one is to hack on libvirt to allow it to talk to a vCenter via vpx:// without having to specify the ESX server name, just the cluster.
[03:13] <kdavyd> The other is to add vmware tools support into either the preseed or a custom commissioning script, and then get power controls to the VMs via wake-on-lan.
[03:14] <kdavyd> Neither option appears to be trivial, and google offers no help either.
[03:18] <kdavyd> What I'm trying to accomplish is a production-grade OpenStack HA deployment on top of an existing vSphere environment, with all OpenStack management nodes virtualized, and the only bare metal provisioned hosts being the actual compute and storage.
[04:27] <X-Rob> kdavyd: vmware have an openstack build that talks to vCenter
[04:27] <X-Rob> however, apparently it's poo.
[04:34] <kdavyd> X-Rob: I don't even want to down that path, partially for the reason you've described.
[04:34] <X-Rob> heh, yup.
[04:37] <kdavyd> (we've been through vCloud, and that didn't end up well)
[14:04] <dimitern> rvba, meeting?
[14:10] <rvba> dimitern: sorry I'm late…
[22:03] <jlondon> Howdy all. I'm trying Maas again after a couple years and am having some issues with the bootstrapping process. Some machines won't get past the initial pxe instantiation and just sit at the login prompt and the machines that do get their IPMI information added and then turned off... don't have ram/cpu info stored in maas. Any ideas? I've looked through the logs and didn't really see anything.
[22:22] <roadmr> jlondon: ram/cpu info is only collected when you commission them; the first contact with maas is called "enlistment" and it won't get that information
[22:22] <roadmr> jlondon: commission the nodes you want to use (there's a control for that), then reboot those nodes; they'll boot, then turn off again, but *then* you'll see their hardware information
[22:22] <roadmr> jlondon: once they're commissioned, you can start them or deploy workloads (e.g. with juju) on them
[22:23] <roadmr> jlondon: there's even a "commission and start node" button
[22:23] <jlondon> roadmr: Okay, understood. That part is working as expected then. Any ideas on troubleshooting the nodes which can't get past the 'maas-enlisting-node' login?
[22:23] <jlondon> I don't see anything in the logs about them and they never show up in the nodes list.
[22:24] <roadmr> jlondon: try switching VTs (alt-f1,2,3...) and see if another console shows what they're doing
[22:24] <roadmr> jlondon: if they got as far as showing the enlistment login, everything else should be ok
[22:25] <jlondon> All tty's show the enlisting login screen, no logs.
[22:26] <jlondon> Oh wait... tty7 has the dmesgs
[22:26] <jlondon> Last entry is 'Ign http://archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates'
[22:28] <roadmr> jlondon: :D weird, is there some config difference between the failing nodes and the successful ones?
[22:28] <jlondon> roadmr: I seem to remember something like this happening the last time I tried Maas and it had something to do with that Maas sets up a proxy for the nodes or something like that?
[22:28] <roadmr> jlondon: network-wise, perhaps... a different switch?
[22:28] <roadmr> jlondon: yes, what's odd is, why do some nodes work while others don't
[22:28] <jlondon> roadmr: Nope. Same switches and I even just deleted one node which had been added okay and then tried adding it again and now it's hanging. Sooo... maybe a proxy issue?
[22:29] <jlondon> If so how do I disable the proxy?
[22:29] <roadmr> jlondon: That, I don't know :/ sorry.. since it's worked OK for me, I don't know how to disable it :(
[22:30] <roadmr> jlondon: you could post maas-related questions in askubuntu.com, maas people regularly check there for questions
[22:31] <jlondon> roadmr: Hrm, Okay thanks. I'll try to see if there's anything in the docs about it. I am now remembering that I had issues with the proxy the last time I tried this so.. Do you know how to login to the node before it has been found by maas? Maybe I can see the network info of the host from there.
[22:31] <roadmr> jlondon: hm no idea, particularly because I don't think the ephemeral image has a password :/
[22:32] <roadmr> jlondon: go to the console (alt-f7) right after the node boots, you'll be able to see cloud-init including network data there
[22:33] <jlondon> roadmr: Yeah saw the IP of one of the machines previously but couldn't get in with my ssh key or anything I tried. I think you might be right about no password though :(
[22:33] <jlondon> It's looking like it is a proxy issue now though, so I bet if I can disable it things will be okay.
[22:33] <roadmr> jlondon: right, they won't even be sshable until they're started I think :/ that's when cloud-init fetches the ssh keys from maas
[22:34] <roadmr> jlondon: have patience, someone here will know what to do. Just that I don't :) tomorrow morning you may have better luck, more people than now (almost end-of-day)
[22:35] <jlondon> :)
[22:35] <jlondon> Thanks for the help so far.
[22:35] <jlondon> 99% sure now that it's a proxy issue. The apt-get process or whatever is being run is going.. just very, very, very slowly.
[22:36] <roadmr> jlondon: np. Also sounds like wonky network card... hopefully you'll figure out the proxy and be able to rule this out.
[22:38] <jlondon> Yep. It's the proxy. Killed it and the node finished booting.
[22:38] <jlondon> Not certain why an issue I had two years ago is still an issue :|
[22:39] <roadmr> so weird...
[22:39] <roadmr> ok, need to log off. good night!
[22:39] <jlondon> Seeya~


[06:56] <paddatrapper> Morning everyone
[07:13] <Kilos> morning paddatrapper and other za peeps
[07:48] <paddatrapper> Hey Kilos. How's down under treating you?
[08:05] <MaNI> Do women glow and men plunder?
[08:05] <Kilos> lol
[08:06] <Kilos> weather still sucks but not too bad here, many different things in shops etc and peeps kinda different and noisy
[08:07] <Kilos> wouldnt be too bad if it would warm up i spose
[10:48] <Kilos> hmm...
[11:08] <paddatrapper> Kilos: Heading to summer, so I guess it should get warmer
[11:09] <Kilos> hopefully
[13:00] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[17:59] <squish102> hmm, interesting challenge.. take an ubuntu server on physical and put esxi underneath it
[19:47] <magespawn> good evening
[20:40] <squish102> Anyone know a command to tell total throughput on eth0? I want to make sure the backup is running at gigabit speeds
[20:41] <kulelu88> long-poll it squish102
[20:42] <MaNI> nethogs
[20:45] <superfly> interactive or non-interactive?
[20:45] <superfly> iftop
[21:00] <tumbleweed> iftop uses netfilter, so it can be quite a CPU hog
[21:00] <tumbleweed> err pcap not netfilter
[21:00] <tumbleweed> vnstat is the lightweight alternative (but can't tell you per flow, only the aggregate)


[03:50] <TaraLS> Hi all.
[03:50] <TaraLS> Squirm,  *wave*
[04:18] <magespawn> morning y'all
[04:19] <magespawn> superfly maybe, but i think that the market is a bit flat at the moment
[04:23] <TaraLS> magespawn, Hiya
[04:24] <TaraLS> My comp rebooted itself randomly.
[04:24] <TaraLS> It's done it once before (I may have told you), and it made a weird beep noise in the headphones when it did
[04:24] <TaraLS> This time, there was no noise
[04:24] <TaraLS> I did a syslog and got this:
[04:24] <TaraLS> http://slexy.org/view/s213ogFaQB
[04:24] <TaraLS> At the bottom, it talks about the ethernet card failing or something.
[04:25] <TaraLS> I briefly disconnected the internet a few days back to test something, and then in order to put it back on, I had to set it to 'auto detect', which I don't think it was on before.
[04:33] <magespawn> will check it out
[04:34] <TaraLS> I've long thought that maybe my ethernet card is what's causing the freezing somehow. I've always been online, even when using my music and art programs, and stuff, so. Ugh, I don't know. Nothing else is wrong. :| Stupid hardware.
[04:37] <magespawn> is it the onboard lan card?
[04:37] <TaraLS> Yeah.
[04:37] <TaraLS> It's a realtek
[04:38] <TaraLS> Other people have written having freezing issues and that their realtek had that same error that mine is showing
[04:38] <TaraLS> Well, one other person. He wasn't using Ubuntu, but he described essentially the same problem
[04:38]  * TaraLS googled.
[04:41] <magespawn> then get yourself an add on lan card, see if that solves the problem
[04:42] <TaraLS> Can I get any card, as long as it fits the motherboard?
[04:42] <magespawn> yes
[04:42] <magespawn>  how old is the mb?
[04:42] <TaraLS> I dunno. How do I find that out?
[04:43] <TaraLS> Oh. The motherboard booklet says E4734 Third Edition V3, April 2009
[04:44] <magespawn> not serious, you can google the mb model name and they will tell what slots the board has and therefore what card typw to get
[04:44] <magespawn> if you let the pc shop know that they can get you the right card
[04:44] <TaraLS> Okay.
[04:45] <magespawn> they are usually quite cheap
[04:46] <magespawn> this might sound a bit strange, but how/where do you get that info you posted?
[04:49] <TaraLS> magespawn,  The stuff Ishowed you on slexy just now?
[04:50] <magespawn> yes
[04:50] <TaraLS> I got it by typing in terminal: cat /var/log/syslog
[04:50] <magespawn> ty
[04:50] <TaraLS> Right where it shows the interwebs fail error is where my comp rebooted, pretty much.
[04:50] <TaraLS> How come?
[04:51] <magespawn> still learning linux
[04:51] <TaraLS> Ahh, alrighty
[04:52] <magespawn> there should also be away to get to send out just the info you, if memory serves, but not sure how
[04:52] <magespawn> want^
[04:52] <magespawn> all comes up in the terminal
[04:52] <magespawn> ?
[04:52] <TaraLS> But that's the thing. I don't know what info I want, short of just wanting it to show me what, if any, errors happened during the time of the freeze/reboot
[04:53] <TaraLS> Yeah.
[04:53] <magespawn> you can also send that directly to a text file, again not sure how
[04:55] <magespawn> maybe like this ' cat /var/log/syslog grep | 'filename'' but do not use that until we confirm that
[04:55] <Kilosm> morning all
[04:55] <magespawn> without the quotes
[04:56] <magespawn> morning Kilosm
[04:58] <TaraLS> Hiyo
[05:02] <magespawn> did some reading look like it should be "cat /var/log/syslog | grep 'filename' "
[05:03] <magespawn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles
[05:05] <TaraLS> I dunno what to put in 'filename' though
[05:05] <TaraLS> That's only good for someone who knows what he/she wants to look for
[05:06] <TaraLS> Who is Kilosm?
[05:06] <Kilosm> me on maverick
[05:06] <Kilosm> 10.10
[05:06] <TaraLS> Ohh
[05:06] <TaraLS> Okay.
[05:06] <TaraLS> Kilosm, My comp hasn't frozen since I removed and put back the CPU (though I haven't really loaded it with any streaming video or anything), but it rebooted itself just before.
[05:06] <TaraLS> Out of nowhere.
[05:07] <magespawn> no the file name is whatever you want to call it, you could say 'filename' as 'syslog25/11/12' for example
[05:07] <Kilosm> once only
[05:07] <TaraLS> No. It was the one time where it made the beep, and then about.... twoish hours ago or whatever, maybe not even, it rebooted itself again.
[05:07] <TaraLS> Without a sound, and without freezin
[05:07] <TaraLS> g
[05:08] <Kilosm> ai
[05:08] <TaraLS> http://slexy.org/view/s213ogFaQB <-- Line 233
[05:08] <magespawn> also if you do have an idea of what you are looking for you cannthe following
[05:09] <Kilosm> did you get that thingie that shows all the voltages on the mb
[05:09] <TaraLS> No. What thing?
[05:09] <Kilosm> gives little icons somewhere
[05:09] <TaraLS> Also, WIne doesn't even support lexmark or genius, so it's useless to me, but thanks for it anyway.
[05:10] <magespawn> grep sshd /var/log/auth.log | less
[05:10] <Kilosm> im on other pc now but gave them to you in mxit i think
[05:10] <Kilosm> was more tools to see voltages
[05:10] <TaraLS> Should I put that in terminal, magespawn ?
[05:10] <Kilosm> from psu in i think
[05:10] <TaraLS> Kilosm,  I did what it told me to do, and then pasted the results to you in slexy, I believe.
[05:10] <Kilosm> after that one
[05:10] <Kilosm> a better one
[05:11] <TaraLS> I dunno, Kilos. Maybe I didn't get it. I guess you'll have to send it again.
[05:11] <Kilosm> when i get back to that pc
[05:11] <TaraLS> kk
[05:11] <magespawn> that command sshd give info about sshd log in attempts from the auth log, the less command is what gets only that info
[05:11] <Kilosm> busy try to fix kde
[05:11] <Kilosm> magespawn, dont use boot-repair near kde
[05:12] <magespawn> not good?
[05:12] <Kilosm> its a gnome friendly tool
[05:12] <magespawn> ahh
[05:12] <Kilosm> my kde is totally gone
[05:12] <Kilosm> mbr and all
[05:13] <Kilosm> got 80 GB unallocated space but cant partition or anything
[05:13] <magespawn> ouch
[05:14] <magespawn> TaraLS: line 233?
[05:14] <TaraLS> magespawn,  What are you asking?
[05:15] <magespawn> is that the line that you think says the lan card has failed?
[05:15] <TaraLS> Not the card itself. That says that the connection failed or something.
[05:15] <TaraLS> I'm just saying...  Whassat meaaan?
[05:16] <magespawn> maybe but that line means it could not get an ip version 6 network address
[05:16] <magespawn> most isp's are still using ip version4
[05:16] <TaraLS> Line 113...
[05:17] <TaraLS> Well, I dunno. I just know that my comp rebooted right around that the 46th minute mark
[05:19] <magespawn> 181/182 are referining to dns but what exactly i am not sure
[05:19] <magespawn> now 113 looks promising but have no idea what it means
[05:20] <Kilosm> serious refs that
[05:20]  * magespawn goes to google
[05:20] <TaraLS> Yeah...
[05:20] <TaraLS> lol
[05:20] <TaraLS> Google for the win.
[05:20] <Kilosm> referining
[05:20] <Kilosm> hehe
[05:20] <Kilosm> you tired kiddo?
[05:20] <TaraLS> Nope.
[05:20] <TaraLS> I mean, a tiny bit. But I'm fine.
[05:23] <Kilosm> oh btw im sure moms pc will take ubuntu with more ram in but those ddr cards are getting scarce and hard to come by no
[05:23] <TaraLS> Ah well.
[05:23] <TaraLS> Mom's PC doesn't need Ubuntu.  How are you?
[05:30] <Kilosm> here too, weve had lotsa rain for a change
[05:30] <magespawn> sort of awake, and you?
[05:30] <Kilosm> 33mm 60mm and 38mm in three days
[05:30] <Kilosm> christmas
[05:32] <magespawn> Kilosm: can you remember who was talking about getting stickers made?
[05:32] <Kilosm> queery and some gauteng peeps methinks
[05:34] <magespawn> Maaz tell queery http://www.stickermule.com/?utm_campaign=Carbon_August_12&utm_medium=Banner&utm_source=Carbon
[05:34] <Maaz> magespawn: Righto, I'll tell Queery on freenode
[05:35] <magespawn> not sure how the costing will wwork out on that though since it is usa based
[05:36] <TaraLS> Kilosm,  Hey, Hardware Sensors Detector shows a ton of voltages
[05:36] <TaraLS> They're just not labelled what for
[05:36] <Kilosm> eish postage costs nowadays
[05:36] <TaraLS> Oh. atk0110-acpi-0
[05:36] <Kilosm> yeah those 1.3 and 5.something are the ones to watch
[05:37] <TaraLS> Vcore Voltage, +3.3 voltage, +5 volate, +12 Voltage
[05:37] <Kilosm> hover over each icon
[05:37] <Kilosm> aw unity dropped that function
[05:37] <Kilosm> ya all of them they are from psu to pc
[05:37] <TaraLS> Oh...
[05:37] <TaraLS> If I'm understanding this correctly...
[05:37] <magespawn> they say free delivery but maybe only in the states
[05:38] <TaraLS> The +5 means it can take more than, or that's its maximum?
[05:38] <Kilosm> oi magespawn
[05:38] <Kilosm> no
[05:38] <Kilosm> + = positive
[05:38] <TaraLS> I know what a + means. But what's it meaning in this instance?
[05:38] <TaraLS> Positive what?
[05:38] <Kilosm> positive not negative voltage
[05:39] <TaraLS> ....Well, yeah, Kilos. What's that MEAN?
[05:39] <Kilosm> like a car battery uses earth and +12
[05:39] <Kilosm> some things use - voltages too
[05:40] <Kilosm> like =12v and -12 with earth in between
[05:40] <Kilosm> +12v
[05:40] <TaraLS> Okay.
[05:40] <TaraLS> So.
[05:40] <TaraLS> The voltages say
[05:40] <TaraLS> For instance
[05:40] <TaraLS> The one that say +5 Voltage
[05:40] <TaraLS> It's going at a rate of 5.09
[05:40] <TaraLS> Does that matter?
[05:40] <Kilosm> nope thats good
[05:40] <Kilosm> when it drops its struggling
[05:41] <TaraLS> Okay...
[05:41] <Kilosm> like 4.5 will switch off
[05:41] <TaraLS> How do you know that the +5 one is the power one specifically?
[05:41] <TaraLS> What if it stays above 5, but the +3 one drops below 3?
[05:41] <TaraLS> Like... yeah.
[05:41] <Kilosm> or 4.8 maybe
[05:41] <Kilosm> its all those TaraLS
[05:42] <Kilosm> they are all from psu to mb
[05:42] <Kilosm> shows state of psu
[05:43] <TaraLS> What does "from psu to mb" mean?
[05:43] <magespawn> a little variation on either side of the target voltage is okay
[05:43] <Kilosm> when they start struggling then they give less than a new one and crash quicker
[05:43] <TaraLS> "less than a new one" what?
[05:43] <magespawn> from power supply unit to the motherboard
[05:43] <Kilosm> that big plug from the power supply to the motherboard
[05:44] <magespawn> new power supply
[05:44] <TaraLS> magespawn,  I know what it means. But like...
[05:44] <Kilosm> hehe fast on that thing hey
[05:44] <TaraLS> Oh well.
[05:44] <TaraLS> It's not worth it lol
[05:44] <TaraLS> Kilosm,  Ah okay
[05:44]  * magespawn on a differnet page
[05:44] <Kilosm> that one link says as they age they lose power
[05:45] <TaraLS> Okay but
[05:45] <Kilosm> we actually got a shop here that sells them cheaper than there by you
[05:45] <Kilosm> R190 for 400w
[05:45] <TaraLS> Would power failures cause freezing and rebooting at intermittent times, or would it be consistent?
[05:45] <Kilosm> yip
[05:46] <TaraLS> Yip what
[05:46] <Kilosm> power is a funny thing
[05:46] <TaraLS> It's annoying
[05:46] <TaraLS> Very damn annoying
[05:46] <Kilosm> yip it will cause probs
[05:46] <TaraLS> I know it will cause probs
[05:46] <TaraLS> Okay
[05:46] <TaraLS> Shh
[05:46] <TaraLS> No more PC talk lol
[05:46] <Kilosm> pc voltages are critical
[05:46]  * TaraLS drops out of the conversation.
[05:47] <magespawn> lol
[05:49] <Kilosm> magespawn, hows your guys there handling the rhino poaching
[05:49] <TaraLS> KILL THEM ALL
[05:49] <TaraLS> The poachers, I mean.
[05:49] <Kilosm> over 400 this years already
[05:50] <Kilosm> 9 on one private game farm
[05:50] <Kilosm> but they think the farmer is invloved too for insurance purposes
[05:51] <magespawn> kzn is getting hit but not as bad as others yet
[05:52] <Kilosm> kruger has even bought a microlite to watch for them and have a coupla choppers on standby all the time
[05:52] <magespawn> i was involved in a project for a spotter plane, really a fixed wing microlight
[05:54] <magespawn> http://www.savetherhino.org/africa_programmes/hluhluwe-imfolozi_park_south_africa/eyes_in_the_skies
[05:54] <Kilosm> evil stupid chinks
[05:54] <magespawn> was helping to build the hanger and raise various other funds
[05:55] <Kilosm> great
[05:55] <Kilosm> someone should tell the chinks about viagra
[05:55] <Kilosm> cheaper then rhino horn
[05:55] <Kilosm> than
[06:11] <Kilosm> oh my net splits again
[06:13] <Kilosm> wb nlsthzn you first back after net split
[06:13] <nlsthzn> ah did the internets implode again
[06:14] <Kilosm> yeah
[06:14] <Kilosm> weird though you and tara and drubin and chanserv and few more here
[06:15] <Kilosm> and psydroid
[06:15] <Kilosm> so all over the world through that place
[06:15] <Kilosm> but me and magespawn are too strong
[06:16] <Kilosm> wb ChanServ
[06:16] <Kilosm> stupid thing cant even say ty
[06:16] <magespawn> the force is strong in this one
[06:16] <Kilosm> lol
[06:19] <Kilosm> wb psydroid
[06:20] <Kilosm> wb confluency
[06:21] <nlsthzn> http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-za/1999/detail/
[06:21] <nlsthzn> is this the only info for the joburg release party?
[06:21] <Kilosm> sec me looks
[06:21] <Kilosm> wb nuvolari
[06:22] <Kilosm> eish nlsthzn no feedback from nico yet
[06:22] <Kilosm> grrr
[06:22] <Kilosm> mail him
[06:23] <nlsthzn> all I need is some link, perhaps photo's etc...
[06:23] <nlsthzn> the durban peeps have a blog post by maia and also photos on g+
[06:23] <Kilosm> good
[06:26] <magespawn> gotta go get ready for work, later all.
[06:26] <Kilosm> nlsthzn, can you mail nico michael and tell him you do whatever it is you do and need feedback?
[06:26] <Kilosm> go well magespawn
[06:26] <nlsthzn> Kilosm, if you have his mail address pm it to me pls
[06:27] <Kilosm> lemme look. i on maverick here
[06:30] <Kilosm> wb TaraLS
[06:30] <TaraLS> wb Everybody lol
[06:30] <nlsthzn> the net is restored...
[06:30] <Kilosm> nope sorry nlsthzn ive never mailed him
[06:31] <Kilosm> i think maia will have it if im not mistook
[06:31] <Kilosm> think he got cds sometime
[06:31] <Kilosm> or will look for his next complaint mail
[06:31] <nlsthzn> no worries... will ask again later when more peeps (and/or other peeps) are online
[06:32] <nlsthzn> lol
[06:32] <nlsthzn> I can also check the mailing list
[06:32] <Kilosm> hehe
[06:32] <Kilosm> he is a funny one
[06:32] <Kilosm> oh ya
[06:33] <nlsthzn> got it
[06:33] <nlsthzn> was to ez
[06:33] <Kilosm> hehe
[06:40] <Kilosm> nlsthzn, queery was also there i think
[06:40] <Kilosm> thump him too
[06:40] <zeref> morning ubuntu-za
[06:42] <Kilosm> hiya zeref
[06:47] <nlsthzn> k uncle Kilosm ... will wait and see if I get answer from nico first
[06:47]  * nlsthzn forgets it is Sunday which isn
[06:47] <nlsthzn> isn't monday for everyone
[06:49] <Kilosm> oh ya
[06:50] <Kilosm> you can tell maaz to shake queery
[06:50] <Kilosm> but nico never comes here
[06:50] <Kilosm> scared someone bombs him
[06:51] <Kilosm> Maaz, tell queery nlsthzn is waiting for feedback from release parties
[06:51] <Maaz> Kilosm: Sure, I'll tell Queery on freenode
[07:15] <TaraLS> $79 per half hour, this one PC place.
[07:15] <TaraLS> Bloody hell. I hate the world.
[07:16] <Kilosm> whew they dont play
[07:17] <Kilosm> Maaz, convert 79 AUD to ZAR
[07:17] <Maaz> Kilosm: I'm not feeling too well
[07:17] <Kilosm> hmm
[07:18] <TaraLS> mazz conver 79aud to zar
[07:18] <TaraLS> eh
[07:18] <TaraLS> maaz convert 79aud to zar
[07:18] <Maaz> TaraLS: I can't do that: Unknown unit 'aud'
[07:18] <TaraLS> maaz convert 79au to zar
[07:18] <Maaz> TaraLS: I can't do that: Unknown unit 'zar'
[07:18] <TaraLS> maaz convert 79au to rand
[07:18] <Maaz> TaraLS: I don't think 79 au can be converted to rand
[07:18] <TaraLS> Uh, whatever
[07:18]  * TaraLS googles.
[07:18] <Kilosm> Maaz, convert 79 AUD ZAR
[07:18] <Maaz> Kilosm: *blink*
[07:19] <TaraLS> 734 rand
[07:19] <Kilosm> ya i just forgot the correct way to do it
[07:19] <Kilosm> ouch
[07:20] <Kilosm> hi mazal
[07:20] <mazal> Morning everyone
[07:20] <TaraLS> Hello
[07:21] <mazal> How are you TaraLS and Kilosm ?
[07:21] <TaraLS> Depressed.
[07:22] <TaraLS> But what's new.
[07:22] <Kilosm> ok ty mazal
[07:22] <TaraLS> This one computer repair place nearby will charge 734rand every HALF hour for computer repair
[07:22] <mazal> That's crazy
[07:25] <Kilos> bloody bot stubborn today
[07:25] <Kilos> oops
[07:25] <Kilos> wrong channel
[07:27] <mazal> I have a strange question this morning
[07:27] <Kilos> lets hear
[07:28] <mazal> I need to use up some data. What is some nice apps or things I can download ?
[07:29] <Kilos> look if you can find the ubuntu book
[07:30] <Kilos> The ubuntu Book
[07:30]  * mazal makes notes
[07:30] <Kilos> must be many megs there
[07:31] <mazal> Seeing as I don't know after tomorrow if I will be able to use the pc and with Friday last day of the month I don't want to waste data that is left
[07:31] <TaraLS> Toodles. I'm off to go lose my mind.
[07:31] <Kilos> toods
[07:31] <Kilos> what mind?
[07:31] <mazal> Bye TaraLS , good luck
[07:32] <Kilos> lol
[07:32] <mazal> I already have the newest parted magic , redo and clonezilla
[07:32] <mazal> Trying to think of other handy stuff
[07:33] <Kilos> oh ya
[07:33] <Kilos> UBCD
[07:33] <mazal> What be that Kilos ?
[07:33] <Kilos> handy tools for bad pcs if you can follow it
[07:33] <Kilos> or understand it
[07:34] <mazal> For Windoze machines ?>
[07:34] <Kilos> Maaz, google UBCD download
[07:34] <Maaz> Kilos: "Ultimate Boot CD - Download the UBCD" http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html :: "Ultimate Boot CD - Overview" http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ :: "|MG| Ultimate Boot CD (UBCD) 5.1.1 Download" http://majorgeeks.com/Ultimate_Boot_CD_d4981.html :: "Ultimate Boot CD ubcd 5.1.1 full download" http://www.mrbass.org/ubcd/ :: "Download Ultimate Boot CD 5.1.1
[07:34] <Maaz> Free - Run flerver are just a few of ..." http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Back-Up-and-Re…
[07:34] <Kilos> all machines
[07:34] <mazal> Oooh , I have heard about that one
[07:34] <Kilos> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html
[07:35] <mazal> Never used or seen it though
[07:35] <Kilos> also http://www.supergrubdisk.org/
[07:40] <Kilos> i dunno if they have a user guide or manual for it
[07:40] <Kilos> you gotta think some to work it
[07:42] <Kilos> try this mazal for the book
[07:42] <Kilos> informit.com/safarifree
[07:43] <mazal> ta
[07:43] <Kilos> hope it works
[07:43] <Kilos> maybe some of the other guys will get it if it works
[07:47] <mazal> I wish I could get a cloning app that works with my m/board
[07:58] <Kilos> what you wanna clone mazal
[07:58] <Kilos> UBCD can clone drives
[07:59] <mazal> My HDD Kilos
[07:59] <Kilos> UBCD
[07:59] <mazal> Since I got my new pc none of the apps mos see my HDD
[07:59] <mazal> What app does it use for cloning ?
[07:59] <Kilos> or that dd command the fly says stay away from
[07:59] <Kilos> ?
[07:59] <mazal> dd not an option , drive is to big
[08:00] <mazal> Will take forever and don't have such huge destination
[08:00] <Kilos> you wanna clone to a smaller drive?
[08:00] <Kilos> eeek
[08:01] <mazal> To an image file , like I always did
[08:01] <mazal> But the stupid software don't work with my new m/board
[08:01] <Kilos> ai
[08:02] <Kilos> someone once told me how to make an iso of your running drive
[08:02] <Kilos> whew
[08:02] <Kilos> try remastersys
[08:06] <mazal> I already use remastersys mos
[08:06] <mazal> But that's an installable iso
[08:06] <mazal> I want an image as well
[08:07] <mazal> I'm gonna go read and see if I can find what UBCD use for cloning
[08:07] <Kilos> to do what with
[08:07] <mazal> If it's partclone it won't work
[08:07] <Kilos> get ubcd man
[08:08] <Kilos> youll most likely understand all its apps than i do
[08:10] <Kilos> its 300.5 megs
[08:10] <mazal> I see it has 5 different ones
[08:10] <mazal> 3 of which I already tried
[08:10] <mazal> Gonna read some more on the other 2
[08:17] <mazal> Oh boy , the one is in German hehehe
[08:18] <mazal> Ek verstaan nie german nie lol
[08:19] <Kilos> ai
[08:20] <mazal> Gaan hom download en sien
[08:20] <mazal> 2 van hulle lyk belowend
[09:04] <nlsthzn> If some of the clever people has any ideas - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2087963
[09:05] <Kilos> hehe theyll only be here tonight nlsthzn
[09:05] <nlsthzn> :) ok
[09:12] <mazal> Wow , not found has answered me a few times there , didn't even know he's one of us SA guys :)
[09:12] <Kilos> lol hes been here a long time
[09:12] <Kilos> before me hey nlsthzn ?
[09:36] <Squirm> hi
[09:41] <Kilos> hi Squirm
[09:43] <Kilos> i have to learn how to make a floppy bootable again
[09:43] <Kilos> sigh
[09:45] <Kilos> so stupid xp can get a driver to see a sata drive
[09:48] <nlsthzn> Kilos, I might have been in and out before you joined but your activity here has been > 9000 times more than mine and indeed most :)
[09:48] <Kilos> i started with 8.10 methinks nlsthzn
[09:48] <nlsthzn> cool
[09:48] <Kilos> i just make noise here
[09:49] <nlsthzn> nah, you are awesome here :)
[09:49] <Kilos> couldnt get 8.04 to go online
[09:49] <nlsthzn> my first dabs with Ubuntu was 6.06... but only since coming here have I really had net access
[09:49] <Kilos> but thats where the ubuntu bug got hold
[09:49] <Kilos> wow you a ballie then
[09:50] <Kilos> 6.06 was first lts
[09:50] <nlsthzn> I was never hooked on Ubuntu actually... I <3 openSUSE then I made politics get the better of me and switched...
[09:50] <Kilos> lol
[09:50] <nlsthzn> should say loved openSUSE
[09:51] <nlsthzn> still like it :)
[09:51] <Kilos> i didnt like the way it booted from stiffy
[09:51] <Kilos> maybe i had an old copy
[09:55] <Kilos> ubuntu with gnome was a new awakening for me
[09:55] <Kilos> unity stressing that some
[10:46] <mazal> bbl , gonna test those apps
[10:57] <charl_> good afternoon
[10:57] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[10:57]  * Maaz washes some mugs
[11:00] <Kilos> hi charl_
[11:00] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[11:00] <Maaz> Kilos: There's already a pot on. If you ask nicely, maybe you can have a cup
[11:01] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[11:01] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto
[11:01] <charl_> hi Kilos
[11:01] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_ and Kilos!
[11:01] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[11:01] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[11:01] <Kilos> that was fast
[11:02] <Kilos> oh no 4 mins
[11:03] <charl_> Maaz: thanks
[11:03] <Maaz> charl_: Okay :-)
[11:12] <Kilos> so hows charl_ doin
[11:21] <Kilos> sup mazal
[11:22] <mazal> I was right , it was software related between the app and my mboard
[11:22] <mazal> I saw that there is a brand new Redo based on the latest Ubuntu
[11:22] <mazal> Tried that one and it works :)
[11:22] <Kilos> great
[11:22] <mazal> Haven't played with ubcd yet , will do that a bit later
[11:23] <Kilos> its very time consuming to find what you wanna do there
[11:24] <Kilos> but i think its a great and usefull cd to have when working on drives lots
[11:24] <Kilos> just wish they had a manual or user guide
[11:26] <mazal> Ja I also looked for a manual , but they don't have one
[11:27] <mazal> Would have loved to learn more about all those apps
[11:28] <Kilos> its very involved and if you click the wrong thin bang crash
[11:28] <Kilos> like never use clean or delete in the hdd section
[11:29] <Kilos> then often even your bios doesnt see the drive anymore
[11:30] <mazal> hmm
[11:36] <Kilos> maybe i just didnt tell it nicely what to clean
[11:36] <Kilos> thats what i say a manual would be great to have
[12:41] <charl_> hi Kilos
[12:41] <charl_> sorry got busy with other stuff here
[12:41] <charl_> cleaning the house and doing the laundry :)
[12:42] <charl_> i'm doing well, yourself?
[12:47] <mazal> Lo charl_
[13:10] <charl_> hi mazal
[13:10] <charl_> how's it going
[13:32] <Kilos> ok ty
[13:33] <charl_> btw what happened re ibid and the twitter integration?
[13:33] <charl_> been away for two weeks so lost track of things
[13:33] <charl_> "away" from irc i mean
[13:36] <Kilos> oh i dunno
[13:36] <Kilos> ask maaz
[13:37] <Kilos> Maaz, last tweet by inetpro
[13:37] <Maaz> Kilos: No such twit
[13:38] <charl_> twit
[13:38] <charl_> ok that's rude :)
[13:38] <charl_> Maaz: stop calling inetpro a twit
[13:38] <Maaz> charl_: Excuse me?
[13:39] <Kilos> looks like nothing sorted there yet
[13:39] <charl_> somebody needs to learn Maaz some manners !
[13:39]  * charl_ kicks maaz and hurts his foot in the process... bad idea
[13:39] <Kilos> is that a rss feeds thing
[13:39] <charl_> metal isn't a good thing to kick
[13:40] <Kilos> hehe
[13:40]  * charl_ needs a boot with reinforced front
[13:40] <Kilos> ohi magtie
[13:43] <charl_> ok bbl
[13:44] <Kilos> k
[14:10] <magespawn> evening
[14:14] <Kilos> hi mage
[14:14] <Kilos> magespawn,
[14:27] <magespawn> steel toed boots
[14:27] <Kilos> hehe
[14:35] <magtie> hi evryone  Kilos
[14:42] <magespawn> hey magtie
[14:48] <magtie> hi magespawn
[14:51] <Kilos> so magtie how was the party?
[14:51] <Kilos> for the old man
[14:56] <Kilos> lo Vince-0
[14:56] <Vince-0> hello Kilos
[14:56] <magtie> Kilos I did not attend the party - just delivered cake
[14:56] <Kilos> aw shame
[15:02] <Kilos> hi Tonberry
[15:02] <Kilos> hi superfly
[15:02] <Tonberry> hallo
[15:09] <magtie> is there a difference between ubuntu & ubuntu-studio apart from the graphics programs?
[15:13] <Kilos> whew
[15:14] <Kilos> http://askubuntu.com/questions/186078/main-differences-between-ubuntu-studio-12-04-and-ubuntu-12-04
[15:15] <Kilos> thats what maaz finds
[15:19] <magtie> Thanks Kilos
[15:19] <Kilos> yw magtie
[15:59] <Kilos> evening drussell
[16:04] <Kilos> mazal, what you doing?
[16:12] <superfly> hi Kilos
[16:12] <mazal> Kilos: watching the soccer
[16:12] <Kilos> ah
[16:14] <magespawn> Kilos have you used Lynx?
[16:15] <Kilos> yeah a while back magespawn the text based browser?
[16:15] <magespawn> yes
[16:15] <Kilos> also elinks
[16:15] <Kilos> gotta be clever with them
[16:15] <magespawn> will have a look at elinks
[16:15] <Kilos> one was a bit easier i think
[16:16] <Kilos> elinks if im not mistaken
[16:16] <magespawn> i am using lynx on the shop server from to download FreeNAS
[16:16] <Kilos> to do what?
[16:17] <Kilos> 8ta soiled me
[16:17] <magespawn> from home
[16:17] <Kilos> spoiled
[16:17] <magespawn> to download freenas
[16:17] <Kilos> oh thats cool
[16:17] <Kilos> you too clever for me
[16:17] <magespawn> nah just learning a little bit at a time
[16:18] <magespawn> over a really long time
[16:18] <magespawn> so it looks like a lot
[16:18] <Kilos> lol
[16:22]  * mazal learned a little about alot , but doesn't know alot about little
[16:22] <mazal> Shees , that confused myself :P
[16:22] <Kilos> hehe and i know little about little
[16:23] <Kilos> forgot the rest
[16:23] <Kilos> all good there superfly ? say hi to mrs_fly for me
[16:25] <magespawn> Kilos that is what notes are for
[16:27] <Kilos> lol if you can remeber where they are ya
[16:27] <Kilos> or drive dont crash and lose them
[16:28] <magespawn> there is a program to keep track of things for you called medely or something]
[16:28] <magespawn> hold on will find a link
[16:28] <Kilos> where does it keep the info
[16:28] <Kilos> not online
[16:29] <Kilos> i could use ubuntuone for that
[16:29] <Kilos> but data prohibits
[16:30] <magespawn> no more like a reference for you pc, i think it does sync online though but have a look
[16:30] <magespawn> http://www.mendeley.com/
[16:31] <Kilos> ok ty i go see
[16:32] <magespawn> i wanted to try it out to organise all the pdf files that i have
[16:32] <magespawn> maiatoday told me about it, there are other options too
[16:34] <magespawn> http://alternativeto.net/software/mendeley/
[16:36] <magespawn> Maaz google mendeley alternatives
[16:36] <Maaz> magespawn: "Mendeley Alternatives and Similar Software - AlternativeTo.net" http://alternativeto.net/software/mendeley/ :: "Papers or Mendeley? « Astu's science blog" http://astuscience.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/papers-or-mendeley/ :: "Ye Olde Jonathan Birge » Blog Archive » Mendeley: How NOT to ..." http://scripts.mit.edu/~birge/blog/mendeley-how-not-to-run-a
[16:36] <Maaz> -beta-preview-program/ :: "Mendeley - Refworks alternatives - LibGuides at Kutztown Universi…
[16:37] <Kilos> whew
[16:38] <Kilos> they all web stuff
[16:38] <Kilos>  basically
[16:38] <Kilos> all i need is to not crash drives when i got folders for everything
[16:38] <Kilos> like ibid, commands for this, commands for that etc
[16:39] <Kilos> and other workarounds and things i use
[16:39] <zeref> hmmm
[16:40] <Kilos> always end up  with a massive mess on desktop and when i tidy it i forget what went where
[16:40] <Kilos> lo hmmmmer
[16:40] <zeref> lo Kilos
[16:41] <Kilos> answer would be a secretary
[16:43] <magespawn> they make real coffee too sometimes
[16:43] <magespawn> so double score
[16:44] <magespawn> folders with the name of the topic?
[16:46] <Kilos> lol
[16:47] <Kilos> ya
[16:47] <Kilos> but there so many commands for different things i still lose them and find another day when looking for something else
[16:48] <magespawn> ahh well i always tend to keep multiple copies as well
[16:50] <Kilos> lol yeah and they just as easy to forget where they are
[16:50] <magespawn> indeed
[16:50] <Kilos> might even have a mage one here
[16:50] <Kilos> got a kerbero with networking stuff and links
[16:51] <magespawn> sometimes spend awhile looking, even just through email
[16:51] <Kilos> monkey with what he helped me with
[16:51] <Kilos> etc etc
[16:51] <magespawn> i am honoured
[16:51] <Kilos> hehe
[16:51] <Kilos> most guys that helped me have one
[16:53] <Kilos> the weed is the ibid one
[16:54] <Kilos> and very deep somewhere is the crashkid with finding a prin i think it waster
[16:54] <Kilos> printer
[16:54] <mazal> I must say unity helps me a lot to find files
[16:55] <Kilos> i also have them spread over 4 drives with different ubuntus on
[16:55] <mazal> ouch
[16:55] <magespawn> maybe use an external
[16:55] <Kilos> and an external that i dunno has what on apart from archives and backups
[16:56] <mazal> Have you ever looked into recoil Kilos ?
[16:56] <Kilos> nope what that
[16:56] <Kilos> in firearms yes
[16:56] <mazal> You set it up to monitor and then can search for phrases
[16:56] <mazal> And it actually not only checks filename , but also file contents
[16:56] <Kilos> the recoil on an fn rifle can almost break your shoulder if gas not set right
[16:57] <mazal> I had it on my previous install , but never used it much as unity mostly found what I was looking for
[16:57] <Kilos> will ask you again to tell me about it when/if i get kde going again
[16:57] <Kilos> im crying
[16:58] <Kilos> it wasnt a 80g drive with kde it was a 160g
[16:58] <Kilos> mweeee
[16:58] <mazal> You format wrong drive ?
[16:58] <Kilos> with everything saved on the 50g /storage
[16:59] <Kilos> tried boot-repair but forgot to disconnect kde
[16:59] <Kilos> boot-repair killed mbr boot sector and everything
[17:00] <mazal> Eina !!!
[17:00] <Kilos> whole drive doesnt allow me to partittion
[17:00] <Kilos> hehe
[17:00] <magespawn> can you not reinstall kde?
[17:00] <Kilos> such is life when you sit on your brain
[17:00] <Kilos> it cant partition it
[17:01] <Kilos> shows as unallocated but cant partition
[17:01] <magespawn> usually when you reinstall it detects the previous install and allows a side by side install
[17:01] <Kilos> maybe its some bug that came in with the 2 TB drive that was connected same time
[17:02] <Kilos> not one ubuntu can add a partition on it
[17:02] <Kilos> cant set it as active or anything
[17:03] <magespawn> disktools?
[17:03] <mazal> Have you tried in gparted "Device-delete partition table then Device-create partition table" ?
[17:03] <Kilos> which one magespawn
[17:03] <magespawn> brb
[17:03] <Kilos> ive tried for days now with UBCD and supergrub
[17:04] <magespawn> Called Disk Utility
[17:04] <magespawn> will find a link
[17:05] <magespawn> https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/precise/gnome-disk-utility/
[17:05] <magespawn> i have found that it works sometimes when goarted does not
[17:05] <magespawn> gparted even
[17:06] <Kilos> gparted cant see it at all
[17:06] <Kilos> will look there ty
[17:06] <Kilos> hope its not big download
[17:08] <Kilos> i actually thing the mbr is corrupt in some way that i have been able to fix
[17:08] <magespawn>  not too sure about the size
[17:09] <Kilos> cant be too big methinks
[17:09] <magespawn> should be in the software centre
[17:09] <Kilos> oh then i have tried it
[17:09] <Kilos> dont see drive at all
[17:10] <magespawn> you sure?
[17:10] <Kilos> yip
[17:10] <magespawn> ahh well
[17:10] <magespawn> not sure what else to try
[17:11] <Kilos> but will find a way or die trying
[17:14] <Kilos> xp might work if i can get it to see the sata drive
[17:14] <Kilos> then fixboot and fixmbr
[17:15] <magespawn> did run Disk Utility as root?
[17:15] <magespawn> apparently it defaults to the current user
[17:15] <Kilos> ran it from my unity
[17:16] <Kilos> even testdisk cant see it
[17:16] <Kilos> but bios can
[17:17] <Kilos> so there must be a way
[17:17] <magespawn> did you try them with sudo?
[17:17] <Kilos> yip
[17:18] <magespawn> mm that sounds interesting
[17:19] <Kilos> very. i will really feel ive accomplished something when its fixed again
[17:19] <magespawn> indeed, document the steps if you can
[17:20] <Kilos> will try but doing so many things mixes one up some
[17:20] <magespawn> ahh we do what we can
[17:21] <Kilos> ya
[17:21] <Kilos> will be a good one to win though
[17:23] <Kilos> then the 2 TB should be easy
[17:23] <Kilos> its getting used to what does what on ubcd thats a bit mind boggling
[17:23] <magespawn> right
[17:24] <Kilos> dunno if its clone faciltity clones mbr as well
[17:24] <Kilos> that would be cool if it did
[17:30] <magespawn> mazal: what is recoil?\
[17:33] <mazal> magespawn, it's an app that monitors docs and allows you to search for word inside of docs.
[17:33] <mazal> It's either recoil or recoll
[17:33] <magespawn> will search
[17:33] <mazal> Can't remember the spelling lekker
[17:34] <magespawn> recoll
[17:34] <magespawn> it is
[17:34] <mazal> And I know you can run it either by itself , or as a lense
[17:34] <magespawn> http://www.lesbonscomptes.com/recoll/
[17:44] <magespawn> i am out of here for now, late all
[17:44] <Kilos> toods magespawn ty
[17:44] <Kilos> hi psydroid
[17:44] <mazal> Sleep well magespawn
[17:49] <Kilos> im sure he will be back later
[17:52] <zeref> I'm trying to setup my dhcp-server for a Lan network
[17:52] <zeref> do i need entries for domain-name-servers, domain-name?
[17:58] <mazal> I have to go pack and all
[17:58] <mazal> Sleep well everyone
[18:00] <Kilos> ok sleep tight and good luck maz
[18:00] <Kilos> grr
[18:10] <queery> hi oom Kilos
[18:10] <queery> wht do you need feedback
[18:10] <queery> ?
[18:11] <Kilos> hi queery
[18:11] <Kilos> for nlsthzn to do the books thing
[18:11] <Kilos> photos attendance etc
[18:11] <queery> wanneer is die review van die loco
[18:11] <Kilos> what yous did and so on
[18:11] <Kilos> 18
[18:12] <nlsthzn> oh hai... for the release parties of joburg and pretoria
[18:12] <nlsthzn> for 12.10
[18:12] <Kilos> but he updates our thing monthly
[18:12] <queery> yea but do you know when the review of the loco is
[18:12] <queery> wasn't it tonight
[18:12] <queery> or some sonday
[18:14] <Kilos> review is 18 dec
[18:14] <Kilos> and meeting night before
[18:14] <queery> ok cool
[18:14] <queery> we are just getting the pics
[18:14] <queery> where do Isend it to
[18:17] <Kilos> nlsthzn, ?
[18:17] <superfly> Kilos: ja, we're all fine.
[18:18] <Kilos> good superfly ty
[18:18] <nlsthzn> I just need a link so I can post it on the team report... if we only have photo's I can blog it and put a link
[18:18] <nlsthzn> nlsthzn at gmail dot com
[18:18] <nlsthzn> just need the photo's and some info (dates etc,)
[18:19] <Kilos> thats the thing. its called Team Reports
[18:19] <nlsthzn> +
[18:19] <nlsthzn> +1 even
[18:20] <Kilos> lol
[18:20] <Kilos> i couldnt remember what you do neelsie
[18:20] <Kilos> sorry
[18:23] <queery> nlsthzn, just uploading to dropbox for you
[18:23] <queery> don't have it on a blog
[18:24] <nlsthzn> queery, kk, just mail me the link and give em some details, when what how who why etc. and I will do the rest :p
[18:25] <nlsthzn> AFAIK there was parties in joburg and Pretoria?
[18:26] <queery> all went well, we had lots of fun at the house for hack in centurion, got shown some of the projects they are working on while we were there. We are a bit disappointed about the turnout, but we had fun together.
[18:27] <queery> still waiting till dropbox uploads
[18:32] <queery> party details: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-za/1999/detail/
[18:32] <queery> still waiting
[18:32] <queery> dropbox is so slow
[18:34] <Kilos> bbnn
[18:48] <nlsthzn> queery, going to lala land.. message me here or pop an e-mail :) night all
[19:01] <queery> nlsthzn,  https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14393547/Ubuntu%20release.zip


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