[09:40] <methods2> so all this stuff is seriously running on a ramdisk right now? i mean i downloaded and installled various programs lol
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> tgillespie: they modified some power management kernel module and wont give the source back
[09:41] <untitled> ActionParsnip: sorry, i was on about free flash... oops
[09:41] <untitled> and about the eee, they also hid wireless driver source apparently
[09:41] <tgillespie> ActionParsnip ah right, so maybe when that comes out ill get even more battery life? :-D
[09:41] <untitled> but it's now up
[09:41] <lyy> slamFIST: thanks
[09:42] <lyy> time to sleep]
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> untitled: well its already in the stock OS, so yeah
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> untitled: sorry that was for tgillespie
[09:42] <Lynoure> Is it normal that Istanbul is "in process of saving to disk" for a longer time than the actual duration of the clip?
[09:42] <untitled> roff
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> tgillespie: its already in the stock OS
[09:42] <tgillespie> ActionParsnip no i mean when i install the netbook remix
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> tgillespie: but i dont know about if yu installed say gentoo or somesuch
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> tgillespie: never come across it
[09:43] <tgillespie> hmmm
[09:43] <untitled> how's the driver support in netbook remix?
[09:43] <untitled> in regards to intel chipset
[09:43] <tgillespie> untitled you just install it over the top of stock ubuntu
[09:43] <tgillespie> untitled oh you mean the atom optimizations?
[09:44] <untitled> aaaaaaah reet
[09:44] <Amarth_> hey i was wondering if anyone has experience in dual booting with installing windows after ubuntu is installed. i've run into a wall and extensive web searches have led to people suggesting i wipe the drive an?d start with xp before ubuntu. is there any other way
[09:44] <untitled> either way... atom is basically pentium M and 945 so either way
[09:44] <tgillespie> untitled apparently there are some optimizations for the atom cpu, but i dunno what they include
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> tgillespie: id install fluxbox instead :D
[09:45] <untitled> i hate fluxbox...
[09:45] <untitled> although the last time i used it was in knoppix 3
[09:45] <tgillespie> ActionParsnip lol, the netbook wm looks quite neat actually
[09:45] <tgillespie> from a space saving perspective
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> untitled:  i love a clean no messing wm
[09:47] <Pie-rate> what's the best way to install vmware player on ubuntu, rpm with alien or with the .tar?
[09:47] <lasaryus> Hi.. I am trying to install .net framework on wine and i am getting the error x desktop not running please check the values in display or something.. Can someone help?
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> Pie-rate: id go with .tar
[09:48] <untitled> tarball
[09:48] <lasaryus> X server
[09:48] <lasaryus> sorry
[09:48] <lasaryus> not x desktop
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> Pie-rate: id advise never use rpm in debian rigs
[09:48] <Pie-rate> ActionParsnip: well alien converts them to .deb
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> Pie-rate: its similar but not the same once youve converted it
[09:49] <T3> hello, can anyone thelp me with why i am not able to view the bloomberg tv through the bloomberg.com website through ubuntu, my sound works on youtube and so not an issue with my sound card why does it not work on bloomberg tv?
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> Pie-rate: and something like vmware, you want it stable
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> what plugin does it use?
[09:49] <Guest57631> can any one help in installing the open office 2 as i have downloaded and it's format is OOo_2.4.1_LinuxIntel_install_wJRE_en-US.tar.gz   now can any one guid me it's installation i tried all ways but unable to do so
[09:50] <favro> !openoffice
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> !compile | Guest57631
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> Guest57631: its in repos dude
[09:50] <Guest57631> may i have the repos link
[09:50] <favro> !repos
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> !info openoffice
[09:50] <jonaskoelker> hi all.  Where's the guidelines to making a Request For Packaging?  ISTR there being a wiki page or something, but google is failing me
[09:51] <lasaryus> anyone help with my X server problem in installing .net framework with wine?
[09:51] <bolrog> !info openoffice.org
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> Guest57631: search for it in synaptic
[09:51] <C0nn0R_> How is everyone ?
[09:52] <Guest57631> sir i need the dba tool as to do work with access file and i was guided to download the new open office base which i did but now em not able to install it
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> T3: its a video so you'll need plugins for your browser
[09:52] <T3> ActionParsnip: which plugins as other websites i can play the videos like youtube is fine
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> T3: well i just checked it in xp with firefox, it says no video (i believe its caching)
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> T3: it is video: Windows Media Video 9
[09:55] <Ape3000> What is the maximum amount of usable ram in 32 bit / x86 Ubuntu?
[09:55] <Pie-rate> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware/Player
[09:55] <Pie-rate> step 1 is: "Install the kernel modules packages. See Installing Software."

[09:55] <ActionParsnip> t3: youtube uses flash, not vdeo
[09:55] <genius> what program can i use that is similar to netstumbler?
[09:55] <T3> ActionPatsnip: i already have adobe flash player installed on ubuntu
[09:55] <Ape3000> My friend has 4 Gb ram, but ubuntu only shows 3.2 Gb.. It this normal?
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> Ape3000: 4gb without anything funky
[09:55] <slamFIST> Pie-rate: dont worry about that, i think you can go on to the next step
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> Ape3000: you need to tweak your rig
[09:56] <LSD|Ninja> Ape3000: perfectly normal under 32 bit
[09:56] <favro> Guest57631: if you double click the file file roller will unpack it - there normally is a readme to get you started
[09:56] <Pie-rate> slamFIST: that's totally confusing and should be removed
[09:56] <jonaskoelker> genius: swscanner says it's compatible with netstumbler files; I don't know what either program does, but I'd assume it's something somewhat similar
[09:56] <slamFIST> lol
[09:56] <Pirate_Hunter> hangthedj, MTecknology, legend2440: sorry back could you come back to help me please i got disconnected
[09:56] <Pie-rate> slamFIST: should either specify a package name or just be deleted
[09:56] <Guest57631> but in this i didn't find any thing sir favro :
[09:56] <jonaskoelker> genius: what does netstumbler do, find wifi networks?
[09:56] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me please, dansguardian gives error when doing dpkg-reconfigure dansguardian it says "error connecting to parent proxy" how can i fix this?
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> !info netstumbler
[09:57] <AdvoWork> how come you have to keep remounting samba shares if the client with the share going to the server is turned off every night?
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> Pirate_Hunter: never used it man, sorry
[09:58] <genius> no, i want to scan neiborhood, because someone is killing my wifi. netstumbler can show the graph of connection quality with some ap
[09:58] <Pirate_Hunter> ActionParsnip: np
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> genius: use your wireles tools to show signal strength
[09:59] <shoeunited__> hmm
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> genius: how would they kill your wifi
[10:00] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[10:00] <genius> ActionParsnip: i don't sure. i want to check what is happening
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> genius: turn on loggin in your AP
[10:01] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me please, dansguardian gives error when doing dpkg-reconfigure dansguardian it says "error connecting to parent proxy" how can i fix this?
[10:02] <Guest57631> how can i go to default root user
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest57631: youdon't, just use sudo or gksu
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest57631: sudo for cli apps, gksu for gui
[10:03] <Guest57631> well i want to untar the package can any one help me out in dis
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Pirate_Hunter: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=428625
[10:03] <Guest57631> the tar package is on  mysedktop
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> Guest57631: tar zxvf /path/to/file.tar
[10:04] <DreamLnr> hi
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> hi Dreaml
[10:04] <DreamLnr> my pavillion with gutsy does not get gateway address while connecting to wifi network
[10:04] <DreamLnr> it does get an ip
[10:04] <DreamLnr> but no gw
[10:05] <DreamLnr> where may be the problem?
[10:06] <DreamLnr> btw it doesnt get the gateway on a particular network
[10:06] <DreamLnr> on my home network everything is ok
[10:06] <jonaskoelker> DreamLnr: my first guess would be a badly configured dhcp server
[10:06] <Pie-rate> vmware installer asks too many questions
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> DreamLnr: id add it to /etc/network/interfaces
[10:07] <Pirate_Hunter> ActionParsnip: that only is if your using squid im using tinyproxy and i have looked at that thread
[10:07] <DreamLnr> admins said dhcp server is 100% ok
[10:07] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me please, dansguardian gives error when doing dpkg-reconfigure dansguardian it says "error connecting to parent proxy" how can i fix this?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> DreamLnr: under your wifi device name add gateway x.y.z.a
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> DreamLnr: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-debian-ubutnu-set-default-gateway-ipaddress/
[10:08] <Shea_72> Ciao!
[10:08] <Ohaiguiz> DCC SEND startkeylogger 0 0 0
[10:08] <Neophos> I'm trying to install Subversion, but in the terminal it just says that libsvn1 can't be installed. When I try in Synaptic, it comes down to that libpq5 can't be installed because I'm lacking libldap2, but that package doesn't exist. Any ideas?
[10:09] <DreamLnr> and the strangest thing is that the  pc used to connect and get the gw a year ago, but now it doesnt
[10:09] <ivo> i have liveCd version that can't install on hard disk. is it possible to copy this liveCd to disk, and start like friom cdrom?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Neophos: http://www.nabble.com/Bug-482684:-installation-of-libldap2-with-apt-get-attempts-to-uninstall-essential-packages-td17447535.html
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Neophos: http://groups.google.se/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/msg/d41c49506000e15d
[10:11] <morningwalker> guys, how to use ssh?? is it ssh username@ipadd??
[10:12] <pajamian> !netsplit
[10:12] <pajamian> heh
[10:13] <pajamian> morningwalker: ssh<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[10:14] <morningwalker> host.com???
[10:14] <morningwalker> i thought it was ip address!!
[10:15] <tommax1> what's happend?
[10:15] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me please, dansguardian gives error when doing dpkg-reconfigure dansguardian it says "error connecting to parent proxy" how can i fix this?
[10:15] <morningwalker> guys how to use ssh??
[10:15] <pajamian> morningwalker: you can use the IP address if you want, either one should work.
[10:15] <tommax1> ssh user@host
[10:15] <morningwalker> ssh (username)@(IP_ADDRESS) right??
[10:16] <pajamian> morningwalker: yes, that should work.
[10:16] <tommax1> IP_ADDRESS can be like a name of host that u have mapped in /etc/hosts
[10:16] <morningwalker> phew
[10:16] <morningwalker> i was confused between ipaddress and host
[10:17] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me please, dansguardian gives error when doing dpkg-reconfigure dansguardian it says "error connecting to parent proxy" how can i fix this?
[10:17] <pajamian> morningwalker: either will work.  If it follows the format of an IP address then it will just connect, otherwise it will look up the IP address for you.
[10:18] <Metatron> anyone know how to tell Evolution which port the IMAP server users, google uses non defaults, i dont see it
[10:18] <Metatron> uses that is
[10:19] <Ardha> ooi-
[10:19] <ubunt3> Hei.
[10:19] <ubunt3> Is it possible to install something using Live CD?
[10:20] <pajamian> ubunt3: of course, what do you want to install?
[10:20] <tommax1> hi, a software for linux like "MS photo story 3"?
[10:20] <kindofabuzz> ubunt3, i think you need the alternative.  you mean pull a pcakage?
[10:20] <ubunt3> pajamian, like flash.
[10:20] <morningwalker> ubuntu has which security enforcer in place of SELinux like in fedora...?
[10:20] <pajamian> ubunt3: well, something like flash, yes, but flash itself is not on the live CD
[10:20] <kindofabuzz> ubunt3, umm you're online now, why not just apt-get it?
[10:21] <ubunt3> pajamian, so i can't use it.
[10:21] <ubunt3> kindofabuzz, well i know apt-get, but after install, can i use it.
[10:21] <pajamian> !flash | ubunt3
[10:22] <ubunt3> Looks like it's pointless to install, because it's won't work.
[10:22] <kindofabuzz> ubunt3, huh? why could't you?
[10:22] <krishna> how do i enable gui for squid proxy??
[10:22] <kindofabuzz> get the flash 10 rc
[10:22] <Metatron> im not real familar with ubuntu's live cd, but other distor's save data liek that to a  save file, so yes you keep your apps
[10:22] <pajamian> ubunt3: of course.  There's lots of packages that aren't on the CD and you can use apt-get or syntaptic to install them directly off the internet.
[10:23] <Metatron> i think he means when he reboots from the live cd will he still have his apps
[10:23] <ubunt3> pajamian, well, that i know and tried, but i installed bittorrent too, but still i can't nowhere to start using it.
[10:23] <krishna> can anyone tell me if i can run the fast trade terminal of sharekhan through mozilla in ubuntu?
[10:23] <kindofabuzz> oh your asking if you install something while running live cd will it save? no
[10:23] <pajamian> ubunt3: sorry, you mean you want to install it when using the live CD.  I thought you meant you just wanted to install it from the live CD.
[10:24] <krishna> in windows it requires jvm to run...in IE
[10:24] <ubunt3> Yep, i tried to ask that. :)
[10:24] <krishna> it doesnt run in mozilla on windows either
[10:24] <pajamian> ubunt3: well, yes you can, but when you reboot you will loose it.
[10:25] <ubunt3> pajamian, that's not problem, i would like to use flash, when i use Live CD.
[10:25] <Metatron> somebody jump start my brain, there must be a way in evolution to tell it what port to use for an imap server, i just dont see it
[10:26] <Metatron>  do i stick it on the end or something, like imap.server.com:port
[10:26] <pajamian> ubunt3: well, there may be a way to customize the live CD, I haven't tried it.  To be honest I don't recommend using the live CD on a regular basis, imo it's good for trialling ubuntu and for rescue, and recovery operations, etc.
[10:27] <Metatron> i thought there was a way to save a session to a file or usb device with live CD
[10:27] <pajamian> Metatron: maybe, I don't know
[10:28] <ubunt3> pajamian, i didn't mean to use it regulary, i could install it next to windows, but i think that i may ruin everything.
[10:28] <xkpe> hi
[10:29] <pajamian> ubunt3: yeah, I understand, I just don't consider the live CD to be a great experience.  Boot time is long and apps tend to load very slowly off the live CD
[10:29] <xkpe> i changed the dns on the network configuration interface, but after a litle while it changes back to something that does not work
[10:29] <pajamian> !hi | xkpe
[10:29] <Metatron> search on LiveCDPersistence in forums
[10:30] <xkpe> how can i make the changes that i made persistent?
[10:30] <pajamian> xkpe: how did you change the DNS?
[10:30] <KlimJay> Does anyone know, when the next release will be out, will "Wubi" users be able to upgrade just like if they had real partitions and as easy as if they did ?
[10:30] <Static_> Can someone pls help this is my first time with *ix pgms.  I have loaded ubuntu 8.04.1 LTS onto a Pent. III with 512mb ram, once kernel is loaded I get a msg on screen ubuntu@ubuntu: ~$ _
[10:31] <KlimJay> Or will the Wubi ( C:/host/ ) have to be redone completly ?
[10:31] <Static_> What nextt?
[10:31] <Metatron> puppylinux is a great live cd that saves sessions, whole things runs in 128 ram, dosent even hit the cd
[10:31] <xkpe> pajamian,  leftt click on the network icont on gnome panel, then manual config, then DNS tab and changed it
[10:31] <Metatron> but look here
[10:31] <Metatron> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/02/14/persistent-settings-and-files-with-livec ds/
[10:31] <stetho> Hi - I have an Ubuntu box which I use as a music server. It has things like Ampache installed on it. I want to be able to rip my CDs on to it without using a monitor - put the CD in, some piece of software says "that's an audio CD" - copies the tracks to a directory and then ejects the CD. At the moment all the software I can find requires human interaction. Does anyone know of a package that will rip CDs without human interaction?
[10:31] <stylianos> Hey
[10:32] <stylianos> Can somebody explain me how to get started with Compiz please?
[10:32] <pajamian> xkpe: as far as I know that should stay persistent, it does for me.
[10:32] <Metatron> steho some of those programs probably allow scripting
[10:33] <pajamian> stetho: I would write a shell script to do it from the command line and have that run when you insert a CD
[10:33] <ushimitsudoki> Hello - A program (qjackctl) runs for me but the window does not appear.  What could be causing this?
[10:33] <Metatron> anyone else have issues with update manager deciding what it wants to update, not what you check or uncheck, i REALY dont want to get the 26mb sun update now
[10:33] <xkpe> pajamian, after less that 1 minute it changes back to what it was and internet stops working
[10:33] <stylianos> ushimitsudoki: How do u run the program?
[10:34] <stylianos> I mean how do you run it and a window does not appear?
[10:34] <stetho> How can I tell if an Audio CD has been inserted?
[10:34] <pajamian> xkpe: do you use DHCP to get your IP address?
[10:34] <ushimitsudoki> stylianos: I have tried it both from the menu and the command line ... it is one command (qjackctl)
[10:34] <ushimitsudoki> stylianos: I know I broke it somehow because it used to work fine. I'm just not sure how to find what I changed
[10:34] <bob1> c
[10:35] <xkpe> pajamian, the wired connection it says roaming mode, im running ubuntu on vmware
[10:35] <pajamian> xkpe: I would try taking it off roaming mode and change it to either static or DHCP
[10:36] <pajamian> stetho: I think there's a setting that controls what application gets launched when an audio CD is inserted, it is set by default to Audio CD Extractor, you can write your own shell script and set it to that instead.
[10:38] <stetho> pajamian: The box is built on Ubuntu server not a desktop version. Any ideas where this setting might be?
[10:39] <pajamian> stetho: hrmmmm, not right off the top of my head.  Maybe it's in fstab or a property of automount
[10:39] <stetho> That's a good point. It's likely to be automount. I'll have a dig round. Thanks for your suggestions
[10:39] <[nrx]> anyone fancy helping me try and read data off 2 cd's that appear to be corrupt? :(
[10:40] <powertool08> how do I change a ports status from open to filtered?
[10:40] <bullgard4> What program is well suited to view pictures from .png files?
[10:42] <pajamian> [nrx]: I can give a couple pointers ...
[10:42] <pajamian> [nrx]: first clean the CDs as best as you can ...
[10:42] <stylianos> Hey
[10:42] <stylianos> Where is CCSM?
[10:42] <[nrx]> pajamian; so far I've cleaned the cd's, polished with a MF cloth - they're not badly scratched at all. I can read much worse CD's
[10:43] <pajamian> [nrx]: ok, if they are badly scratched you can take them to a video store and they will usually run them through their resurfacing machine for about $5 or less...
[10:43] <pajamian> [nrx]: you can use dd to copy the contents to a .iso image file
[10:44] <[nrx]> pajamian, not scratched :) - can't even read them properly. I get errors: end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 0
[10:44] <pajamian> [nrx]: you can use conv=noerror with dd to get it to continue to copy the rest of the disk after it encounters an error.
[10:44] <[nrx]> I can't even mount it though :s
[10:45] <pajamian> [nrx]: you don't need to mount it for dd
[10:45] <[nrx]> can I PM you?
[10:45] <pajamian> [nrx]: once it copies you can try to mount the .iso image as loopback
[10:45] <pajamian> [nrx]: yeah, alright.
[10:47] <Metatron> panjmain, there is a util called ivman for working with HAL, it might be something that can notify you
[10:47] <Metatron> "Ivman can be used to execute arbitrary commands when devices are added to or removed from your system, or when device properties change. "
[10:48] <pajamian> Metatron: stetho would be interested in that.
[10:48] <Metatron> oh, my eyes are crossing, i read wrong nick
[10:53] <monostone> does Xorg.O.log report ONLY xserver info? it will never show a kernel info/error message right?
[10:54] <Gourlis> hello, i saw in youtube a video of ubuntu beryl. i have ubuntu normal, how can i move to ubuntu beryl ?
[10:55] <basti> Gourlis, just install beryl
[10:55] <Gourlis> beryl is a theme or an application ?
[10:55] <Gourlis> external on ubuntu ?
[10:55] <Metatron> you might be thinking of compiz also, they are related somewhat
[10:56] <Kartagis> when I do apt-get remove tcl8.4, it will remove xchat too. how do I remove tcl only?
[10:56] <clarence1> what time is it?
[10:56] <Metatron> compiz-beryl-fusion, windows managers that replace ubuntu defaults, have theme abilities of there own
[10:56] <Gourlis> Metatron and basti, where can I find beryl?
[10:56] <Gourlis> i tried compiz but they are not working on my pc all effects
[10:56] <basti> its in the repo
[10:57] <Gourlis> thats why i want to see beryl
[10:57] <Gourlis> because i loved it most in youtube :P
[10:57] <Metatron> beryl is outdated, its called something else now
[10:57] <Metatron> i think
[10:57] <favro> !compiz
[10:57] <Metatron> compiz is the new beryl
[10:57] <Gourlis> ok guys
[10:58] <Metatron> www.beryl-project.org
[10:58] <Gourlis> thx a lot
[10:58] <clarence1> how to install another desktop Environment
[10:58] <Metatron> clarence1: such as?
[10:59] <clarence1> KDE
[11:00] <favro> clarence1: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop  - or search in synaptic
[11:00] <Metatron> it is in the repository
[11:00] <favro> !kubuntu
[11:00] <powertool08> is it a bad idea to run wireshark as root?
[11:00] <Gourlis> how can i see if i have compiz fusion still installed on ubuntu? and how can i remove it if i want ubuntu later to be default?
[11:01] <clarence1> ok.....I see
[11:01] <Metatron> compiz requires a command to start it, basicaly telling it to start and replace the ubuntu default, but it is only temp till next boot, you have to add a command to start it to make it perm, or run the command at will
[11:02] <clarence1> Do compiz fusion support ATI mobility X600 SE
[11:02] <Gourlis> how can i see if i have compiz fusion still installed on ubuntu? and how can i remove it if i want ubuntu later to be default?
[11:02] <favro> !packages > clarence1
[11:02] <Metatron> compiz --replace   is the command
[11:02] <Metatron> sheesh
[11:03] <_MacTavish_> Hello
[11:04] <nono031> Hello
[11:06] <_MacTavish_> How are you doing?
[11:06] <clarence1> Who
[11:06] <_MacTavish_> I?
[11:06] <nono031> ???
[11:06] <onlooker> Hey. I have a problem. My max resolution was for some reason 1024*768 on my GeForce 2 MX 400. I googled around and found this site: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xresprobe/+bug/49827 . Following the instructions, I've successfully upped my resolution, but now 3D stuff won't work. Any ideas?
[11:07] <_MacTavish_> Hi
[11:07] <mizipzor> in Transmission, how do I add additional trackers to a torrent?
[11:07] <sinan> there is something i don't understand. Doesn't X start before i login? How is it supposed to know what .xinitrc file to read, supposing i put it in my home folder?
[11:08] <XGas> mizipzor: See the Information section for the torrent
[11:08] <mizipzor> XGas: in the file?
[11:08] <_MacTavish_> Pancake
[11:08] <abe3k> hi, is there a terminal command or a tool that puts a string in the clipboard ?
[11:08] <favro> sinan: afaik X starts after you login
[11:08] <XGas> mizipzor: no, the torrent.
[11:08] <XGas> mizipzor: after you added it into Transmission
[11:09] <sinan> favro: how does the gdmgreeter render, then? (i am actually asking :) )
[11:09] <soundray> !info xsel | abe3k
[11:09] <_MacTavish_> Boringly
[11:09] <mizipzor> XGas: i have a button called "Details", thats what you mean? I poked around a bit in there but couldnt find anything
[11:09] <abe3k> thank you guys
[11:09] <XGas> mizipzor: Yeah, that one
[11:10] <favro> sinan: it is limited to 16 colors until X starts afaik - so is limited to the vt colors
[11:10] <_MacTavish_> Nono why be silent?
[11:10] <muxer> Would using a working xorg.conf in Ubuntu also work under FreeBSD?
[11:11] <combo> does anybody know how to set re-wind in KAFFEINE from about 20 seconds to 10 seconds? can't find that option :/
[11:12] <mizipzor> XGas: hmm, the only field i could find that i could type something in is the "comment" filed... sounds like the wrong one
[11:12] <_MacTavish_> By
[11:12] <jigp> hello how to hide the users from login bar?when i start my ubuntu there is a wizard that you will choose your nick which one to login into..how to hide my user name?thanks
[11:12] <muxer> Would a working xorg.conf in Ubuntu work in FreeBSD also?
[11:13] <Metatron> muxer, ive never tried but i would say it could work
[11:13] <Blink> Hello, I have a Toshiba Satellite A300 and I want to install Ubuntu. But when I insert the CD and choose "Install Ubuntu" from the menu, it freezes there.
[11:13] <Blink> Is that a known issue?
[11:14] <morningwalker> ssh isnt working for me
[11:14] <muxer> Metatron Alright, I guess I'll give it a shot anyway
[11:14] <morningwalker> how can i reinstall ssh?
[11:14] <XGas> mizipzor: Ah, it seem that you cannot add it in Transmission, you can try a different Bittorrent client like Deluge for example.
[11:14] <VSpike> jigp: System->Administration->Login Window
[11:14] <soundray> morningwalker: describe the problem
[11:15] <_MacTavish_> Ha
[11:15] <mizipzor> XGas: ill take a look at deluge, thanks :)
[11:15] <Metatron> connecting via ssh to the machine or to a remote machine
[11:15] <_MacTavish_> Hm
[11:15] <soundray> jigp: like VSpike says, then on the Users tab, disable face browsing
[11:15] <XGas> Strange thing is, I remember seeing that option in Transmission
[11:15] <morningwalker> soundray, after executing the command ssh (usrname)@(ipaddress)
[11:15] <morningwalker> there is no reply
[11:15] <XGas> hmm, might be a different built
[11:15] <_MacTavish_> Nono
[11:15] <soundray> morningwalker: you have to have sshd running on the machine to which you are trying to connect
[11:15] <CanisLupus> morninwalker, reinstall: sudo aptitude reinstall ssh
[11:16] <soundray> morningwalker: try 'sudo apt-get install ssh' to put that in place
[11:16] <jigp> soundray : im not using gnome. im using kde... VSpike
[11:16] <mizipzor> XGas: apt-get didnt find deluge, is it in there?
[11:16] <VSpike> morningwalker: sudo apt-get purge openssh-client && sudo apt-get install open ssh-client
[11:16] <VSpike> morningwalker: assuming you mean client, not server
[11:16] <Metatron> make sure the ssh machine doesnt have the ports blocked by a firewall, and of course like soundray said, its running threre, test from a diffrent mahcine if u can
[11:16] <soundray> jigp: are you using kdm or gdm for logging in?
[11:16] <VSpike> morningwalker: that will nuke most settings for ssh too
[11:16] <jigp> kdm
[11:16] <XGas> mizipzor: Full name in Ubuntu repo is: deluge-torrent
[11:16] <sinan> i have created a .xinitrc in my home folder, and put this inside (http://pastie.org/266550), which to my understanding should present me with a terminal when i login, but it simply loads a normal gnome interface. What am i doing wrong?
[11:17] <soundray> jigp: your question may be best asked in #kubuntu
[11:17] <morningwalker> Vspike nuke??
[11:17] <mizipzor> XGas: thanks, just fond that on the forum... is there a way to search in the repo?
[11:17] <VSpike> morningwalker: if you want to really purge all settings, do "rm -r ~/.ssh" too
[11:17] <VSpike> morningwalker: as in purge
[11:17] <VSpike> morningwalker: remove
[11:17] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me please I have installed dansguardian, firehol, tinyproxy and squid but it seems that all pages are being blocked
[11:18] <Blink> Hello, I have a Toshiba Satellite A300 and I want to install Ubuntu. But when I insert the CD and choose "Install Ubuntu" from the menu, it freezes there. Any help, please?
[11:18] <VSpike> jigp: there's a similar tool in kde control panel
[11:18] <XGas> mizipzor: Nope, I don't know, you can still use aptitude to search though.
[11:18] <jigp> soundray : no no..i am using ubuntu and i just install the kde.im in gnome actually..i just select the kde :D
[11:19] <VSpike> jigp: do you get the kde login window or the gnome one?
[11:19] <sinan> Any can help me with xinitrc? I have created a .xinitrc in my home folder, and put this inside (http://pastie.org/266550), which to my understanding should present me with a terminal when i login, but it simply loads a normal gnome interface. What am i doing wrong?
[11:19] <jigp> kde
[11:19] <VSpike> jigp: ps aux | grep [kg]dm
[11:19] <jigp> VSpike : kde
[11:19] <jokkaa> Could anyone help me how i can change the permissions on my harddrives? i have a new one and its automounted with my old ones, but i cant read and write in it. any help?
[11:20] <soundray> morningwalker: please try my suggestion before you do any reinstalling
[11:20] <Metatron> sinana, all i can say is ubunut doesnt behave like many other distro's on how it boots and handles run levels, i still dont get it all they way
[11:20] <soundray> !newdrive | jokkaa
[11:21] <Kira[work]> Does Ubuntu store some kind of hardware ID of the SMBus controller somewhere?
[11:22] <morningwalker> soundray' m running sudo apt-get install ssh now
[11:22] <soundray> sinan: by default, ubuntu ignores this and runs the default session. Try changing the session at login -- Failsafe gives you a terminal session.
[11:23] <VSpike> jigp: then you need to use the kde control panel tool or edit kdmrc directly .. http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-workspace/kdm/kdm-files.html
[11:23] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me please I have installed dansguardian, firehol, tinyproxy and squid but it seems that all pages are being blocked "apparently if i remove squid dansguardian complains but than these tut dont explain how to configure squid - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=207008, http://www.pilpi.net/journal/item-985.php"
[11:23] <soundray> Kira[work]: I don't really know, but I would look under /proc/bus/
[11:24] <jokkaa> the "etc/fstab" for my old drive and new are the same except drive names... one is sdc1 other is sda1, what could be wrong?
[11:24] <sinan> soundray: how do i change the session at login?
[11:24] <soundray> jokkaa: did you look at the page ubottu gave you?
[11:25] <soundray> sinan: click on Options at the bottom left
[11:25] <jokkaa> yeah but its confusing me
[11:25] <jokkaa> lol nvm. i was on wron glink ^^
[11:25] <jigp> VSpike : my nick/loginname will hide?except for the other users :)
[11:26] <sinan> soundray: thanks 2A!
[11:26] <indian_munnda> can any one tell me how to open up a port in the router?
[11:28] <magnetron> indian_munnda, no, because it totally depends on your router. see http://portforward.com/ for instructions
[11:29] <monostone> I somehow managed to mess up the keymappings for my logitech USB G11 keyboard media keys. Xorg.0.log is beggining to report a "(II) Unreported Prefix0 scancode: 0x22" message, i investigated a bit and saw that the hex codes the messages print are the keydown scancode of the media keys as detected by running "showkey -s". BUT xev does NOT detect the media keys anymore, on the other hand in gnome keyboard shortcuts the keys ARE dete
[11:29] <monostone> cted, also running "lshal -m" does detect the keysym for all the media keys. Media players like Rythymbox continue to have the media keys working, but totem has lost them. Any pointers as to what the problem is? could this be a kernel keymap issue? or since the message appears in my Xorg.0.log, is it a X issue?
[11:31] <VSpike> jigp: oh, you want to hide just yours?
[11:32] <VSpike> jigp: not sure if you can do that
[11:32] <jigp> VSpike : yeah hehehe
[11:32] <B|ackPanther> can anyone tell me why "man fgets" says there is no manual entry for fgets ?
[11:32] <soundray> VSpike: it's possible in gdm. Not sure about kdm
[11:33] <ubuntunewbie007> hi
[11:33] <ubuntunewbie007> recently i install oss latest version in ubuntu studio
[11:33] <ubuntunewbie007> and now its showing me oss mixer as default device but i want to revert back to alsa as mic not working in oss, what to do
[11:34] <soundray> B|ackPanther: because there is no manual entry.
[11:34] <jrib> B|ackPanther: install manpages-dev
[11:34] <soundray> !info manpages-dev | B|ackPanther
[11:35] <siavasht> how can i convert a chm file into text ?
[11:36] <B|ackPanther> soundray, thanks lots
[11:36] <soundray> B|ackPanther: jrib deserves it more
[11:36] <soundray> !info archmage | siavasht
[11:37] <siavasht> archmage converts them into htm not text
[11:37] <B|ackPanther> jrib,thanks more.
[11:37] <jrib> B|ackPanther: ha, no problem
[11:37] <jigp> thanks VSpike
[11:37] <soundray> siavasht: from there, it's easy to convert to text, e.g. lynx -dump
[11:38] <jigp> soundray : how to hide the nick or loginname?
[11:38] <ushimitsudoki> Why would an application run the process when i launch it, but not draw it's window? However if I run it as root it runs both the process and shows the window?
[11:38] <jigp> soundray : in gnome
[11:38] <siavasht> can you redirect me to a manual or hpw to ? tnx
[11:38] <pajamian> siavasht: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Compiled_HTML_Help#Extracting_to_HTML
[11:39] <jrib> ushimitsudoki: what application?  that's usually a sign of permission issues
[11:39] <soundray> jigp: System-Administration-Login Window, on the Users tab, untick the /etc/passwd option and list all users you want to be visible.
[11:39] <ushimitsudoki> jrib: qjackctl. it was working just a few days ago.
[11:40] <soundray> siavasht: do your conversion with archmage, then 'lynx -dump helpfile.html >helpfile.txt'
[11:40] <soundray> !info lynx | siavasht
[11:40] <jrib> ushimitsudoki: have you tried running it from a shell and looking for any output?
[11:41] <pajamian> soundray: siavasht: links is better
[11:41] <pajamian> !info links
[11:41] <soundray> pajamian: not for dumping
[11:41] <jigp> soundray : thanks..no luck for kde? :) or how to tag it in google? like perfect search..been trying to search like "hinding user name kde and gnome" no luck
[11:41] <ushimitsudoki> jrib: yes. from the shell there is only a warning which also appears with gksu and a web search says to just ignore (it is a "locale not found" message) There isn't any indication of an error
[11:41] <pajamian> soundray: you can dump from links
[11:41] <Pirate_Hunter> can someone help me please I have installed dansguardian, firehol, tinyproxy and squid but it seems that all pages are being blocked "apparently if i remove squid dansguardian complains but than these tut dont explain how to configure squid - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=207008, http://www.pilpi.net/journal/item-985.php", how can i stop that?
[11:41] <soundray> jigp: ask in #kubuntu. No reason to be afraid.
[11:42] <soundray> pajamian: but lynx's dumps are better
[11:42] <jrib> ushimitsudoki: do you know where it keeps its config files in your HOME?
[11:42] <ushimitsudoki> jrib: yes. in ~/.qt/qjackctlrc
[11:42] <pajamian> soundray: I haven't noticed much of a difference ... but ok
[11:42] <jrib> ushimitsudoki: check permissions and ownership on ~/.qt and everything under it
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:43] <soundray> pajamian: I use lynx -dump to read html mail in mutt all the time. It produces nicer formatted output -- links's is messy in comparison. Maybe I should try again, as links is being actively developed...
[11:44] <ushimitsudoki> jrib: it looks like those directories belong to me. I did delete the config file tho, while trying to get it working
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> soundray: tried lynx2
[11:44] <pajamian> soundray: I'll have a comparison when I get a chance
[11:45] <jrib> ushimitsudoki: using a custom theme of some kind?  revert to the default and see if it still happens
[11:45] <soundray> ActionParsnip: I was unaware of it. Is it any good?
[11:45] <tamer> how i can add windows license to wine
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> soundray: no idea, i've only heard of it
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> tamer: how do you mean?
[11:46] <Dr_Markey> tamer: how do you mean?
[11:46] <ubuntunewbie007> hi action
[11:46] <kindofabuzz> tamer, why would you need to?
[11:46] <jrib> ushimitsudoki: what's the output of 'groups' as well?
[11:46] <ubuntunewbie007> i have install latest oss mixer now am not able to revert back to alsa
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> hi ubuntunewbie007
[11:46] <ubuntunewbie007> :(
[11:46] <tamer> to install some needed runtime
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewbie007: check sound preference
[11:47] <eth01> runtime wouldn't require you have a license as such
[11:47] <ubuntunewbie007> i did
[11:47] <ubuntunewbie007> high definition audio ( oss mixer ) is there
[11:47] <tamer> when i open win door nothing i can install right
[11:47] <soundray> ActionParsnip: actually, it's what I'm using (Lynx Version 2.8.5rel.1 on feisty, Lynx Version 2.8.6rel.4 on hardy)
[11:47] <ubuntunewbie007> is there anyway to do something like restore of windows?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewbie007: does alsa not fly?
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> soundray: haha nice
[11:48] <siavasht> soundray:tnx ! that did the trick
[11:48] <Kira[work]> wow
[11:48] <ubuntunewbie007> alsa was working, but i installed oss to try it out now its giving me hard time uninstalling it
[11:48] <eth01> hmm? ;)
[11:48] <Kira[work]> my hardy vm is acting really strange since I moved it to another host
[11:48] <Kira[work]> when I run "gksudo gedit"
[11:48] <soundray> !enter | Kira[work]
[11:48] <Kira[work]> and click on the "Open" button (to open files)
[11:48] <ubuntunewbie007> when i modprobe intel_hda_sound it gives me error unknown symbol
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Kira[work]: try gksu gedit /path/to/file.txt
[11:49] <Kira[work]>  the window disappears from the screen
[11:49] <ushimitsudoki> jrib: no theme changes for a while. groups lists about a dozen including myusername adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev scanner lpadmin admin net dev powerdev vboxusers sambashare ventrilo usbusers
[11:50] <ubuntunewbie007> :-<
[11:50] <qi> - -
[11:50] <ubuntunewbie007> :-$
[11:50] <jokkaa> problem solved! chmdd (orsomething like that) did the trick
[11:51] <ubuntunewbie007> chmod*
[11:51] <Kira[work]> How do I rescue windows that have hidden themselves out of the area of the screen?
[11:51] <jokkaa> chown*
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Kira[work]: alt+tab
[11:52] <ubuntunewbie007> anybody
[11:52] <monostone> I somehow managed to mess up the keymappings for my logitech USB G11 keyboard media keys. Xorg.0.log is beggining to report a "(II) Unreported Prefix0 scancode: 0x22" message, i investigated a bit and saw that the hex codes the messages print are the keydown scancode of the media keys as detected by running "showkey -s". BUT xev does NOT detect the media keys anymore, on the other hand in gnome keyboard shortcuts the keys ARE dete
[11:52] <monostone> cted, also running "lshal -m" does detect the keysym for all the media keys. Media players like Rythymbox continue to have the media keys working, but totem has lost them. Any pointers as to what the problem is? could this be a kernel keymap issue? or since the message appears in my Xorg.0.log, is it a X issue?
[11:52] <ubuntunewbie007> ?
[11:52] <philippe_> join #ubuntu-fr
[11:52] <Kira[work]> wait...
[11:53] <Kira[work]> darn
[11:53] <soundray> ubuntunewbie007: when you want to experiment with software that isn't packaged, you should really think of how to go back to a sane configuration beforehand.
[11:53] <Kira[work]> the gedit process actually got killed.
[11:53] <soundray> ubuntunewbie007: now that the damage is done, I think the quickest way to get back may be to reinstall Ubuntu.
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> monostone: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[11:53] <jrib> ushimitsudoki: well you're not alone at least: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=31843 .  Not really sure what else to check
[11:53] <ubuntunewbie007> so there's no way now ? except re-installing? i followed the procedure to install it from help.ubuntu.com, thre's procedure to uninstall also, but its not working why?
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewbie007: how did you install the oss stuff?
[11:54] <soundray> ubuntunewbie007: alternatively, look what 'linux-image-*' and 'linux-modules-*' packages you have installed and run a 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install packagename' on them.
[11:54] <ubuntunewbie007> let me give u the link. here it is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenSound
[11:54] <ubuntunewbie007> check it sir
[11:55] <soundray> ubuntunewbie007: it would help if you said exactly what fails and how
[11:55] <jrib> ushimitsudoki: does jack have its own config file in your home maybe?  Try 'find ~/.* ! -user $USER'
[11:55] <ushimitsudoki> jrib: yes that is my exact problem..let me check on that config file
[11:56] <MarcoZ> I need to setup a X on a server with no display and tty0, does anybody know how do i do it? i want to be able to control it with freenx
[11:56] <ubuntunewbie007> ok soundray let me try :)
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> ubuntunewbie007: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5539687&postcount=331
[11:56] <tamer> i face installation failed in wine door every time i want to install anything
[11:57] <tamer> anyone can help please
[11:57] <soundray> MarcoZ: it would be much easier to set this up if you could connect a keyboard and monitor at least temporarily
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> tamer: what you trying to install?
[11:57] <MarcoZ> fact is i can't
[11:57] <tamer> Ares fonts anything
[11:57] <MarcoZ> the server is a VPS, i don't have physical access to it
[11:57] <ubuntunewbie007> bro action i tried all that, its not working at all, all those commands saying that package is not installed
[11:57] <soundray> MarcoZ: okay
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> tamer: whats that?
[11:57] <soundray> MarcoZ: have you considered X forwarding via ssh?
[11:58] <tamer> any package faled to install
[11:58] <rampageoberon> MarcoZ: YOu could install tightvnc server and then run gnome-panel
[11:58] <MarcoZ> That'd be an option, but i don't know how to set it up correctly.
[11:58] <MarcoZ> besides i'm on windows
[11:58] <albech> i have a strange network problem here.. i can connect to any website and all services like skype, msn etc are working.. but I cannot get http data from Google. I can ping and traceroute google just fine. Any suggestions?
[11:58] <ubuntunewbie007> i am doing reinstall of linux-image-*
[11:58] <MarcoZ> so i need a client for windows :\
[11:58] <ubuntunewbie007> lets c
[11:58] <rampageoberon> MarcoZ: thats fine, putty and vncviewer for windows works
[11:58] <soundray> MarcoZ: you can get an X server for Windows with cygwin
[11:59] <ubuntunewbie007> basically whenever we do something with hardware drivers? it effects linux-image? kernel? right?
[11:59] <MarcoZ> aight.
[11:59] <MarcoZ> however the problem is, let X startup with nothing
[11:59] <rampageoberon> MarcoZ: sudo aptitude install tightvncserver
[11:59] <ubuntunewbie007> be right back action and soundray :)
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> tamer: do you mean ares the p2p client?
[11:59] <uriel_> hello, i have 2 harddisk 1 is 80gband the other is 160 empty i want to copy the data from 1 to another but i want each partition to be X2 what is the shortest way to do that what programs should i use ?
[12:00] <tamer> yes
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> tamer: its just a gnutella client
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> !gnutella
[12:00] <ushimitsudoki> jrib: that find doesn't show anything related i think
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> tamer: do try to find open alternatives instead of running a great tonne of apps via wine
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> uriel_: create the partitions and dd them over
[12:01] <tamer> ok how i can modify my applications menu in the top of the screen
[12:01] <jrib> ushimitsudoki: it shouldn't return anything unless you have a specific reason for having files owned by someone other than your user in your HOME
[12:01] <MarcoZ> tightvnc seems to startup, but when i try to connect to it it refuses my connection.
[12:01] <tamer> because some not needed items are there
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> uriel_: or you could boot to livecd and cp it over but i think you'd have to reinstall grub
[12:01] <jrib> tamer: right click on the ubuntu icon
[12:01] <rampageoberon> MarcoZ: how are you trying to connect
[12:01] <soundray> tamer: System-Preferences-Main Menu
[12:01] <moDumass> hey all, um anyone tried this "crome" google browser?
[12:01] <moDumass> any good
[12:02] <frink_> hey folks
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> uriel_: why not just keep both and remap /home to be on the new drive?
[12:02] <uriel_> if i will dd them
[12:02] <MarcoZ> realvnc, controlling if use protocol 3.3 is still enabled
[12:02] <tamer> thanks
[12:02] <rampageoberon> MarcoZ: how did you start tightvncserver?
[12:02] <ushimitsudoki> jrib: lots of enemy-territory stuff and trash results ... that's about it
[12:02] <uriel_> will hte partition wont lose its size?
[12:02] <XGas> moDumass: Really depends on how much you use, and your taste.
[12:02] <soundray> moDumass: this is offtopic
[12:02] <frink_> Anybody noticed that if you search for "open office" on google the first hit is a sponsored link to www.openoffice.org-suite.com where you have to pay to download it...
[12:02] <uriel_> cause the 80 gb drive is dieing
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> uriel_: id websearch round but you should be ok
[12:02] <XGas> moDumass: Chrome*
[12:02] <MarcoZ> rampageoberon, is there something i need to specify when starting it?
[12:03] <soundray> !ot | frink_
[12:03] <jrib> ushimitsudoki: you should try starting jack some other way, using a different frontend and see if it works.  /me running out of ideas
[12:03] <XGas> yeah, off-topic, ask somewhere else, lol.
[12:03] <moDumass> soundray, you are awesome, i figured asking smart people was wise
[12:03] <rampageoberon> MarcoZ: tightvncserver :0
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> uriel_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5493584#post5493584
[12:03]  * frink_ tuts
[12:03] <uriel_> thank alot
[12:03] <uriel_> thanks*
[12:03] <soundray> moDumass: it is, but you should choose the right channel, since this one is flooded with on-topic requests already
[12:03] <rampageoberon> then with win vncviewer.exe connect to <youraddress>:5900
[12:03] <ushimitsudoki> jrib: alright i appreciate it. if you think of anything just let me know ... i will continue to hack away :)
[12:04] <rampageoberon> MarcoZ:  then with win vncviewer.exe connect to <youraddress>:5900
[12:04] <moDumass> soundray, dont worry about it
[12:04] <MarcoZ> A VNC server is already running as :0
[12:04] <MarcoZ> weird.
[12:04] <prog077> I had a question
[12:04] <prog077>  Do you read the files of windos on linux?
[12:04] <ubuntunewbie007> re-installing linux-image-* didnt help @ soundray
[12:04] <ubuntunewbie007> in sound preferences still oss mixer showing there not alsa one :-<
[12:04] <uriel_> but lets say each partitoin now is 20gb
[12:04] <jrib> prog077: you mean from your windows install on another partition?
[12:04] <rampageoberon> MarcoZ: ok so can you not connect with vncviewer.exe from windows?
[12:04] <uriel_> and i want each to be 40
[12:04] <uriel_> u see ?
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> prog077: do you want to read your ntfs partition from linux?
[12:05] <MarcoZ> Yes, if i go :1
[12:05] <MarcoZ> and :5901 after the IP
[12:05] <moDumass> i would have thought that it would be release for linux first, bummer
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> uriel_: sure, that walkthrough should help. id do it  a better way and just install on the new drive and copy over what you need
[12:05] <MarcoZ> still, authentication failed, duh
[12:05] <prog077> ????????
[12:05] <jrib> ushimitsudoki: hmm, you could try to 'strace qjackctl' and see what it's doing at the end
[12:05] <jrib> prog077: what are you trying to do exactly?
[12:05] <DistroJockey> prog077, sometimes
[12:06] <rampageoberon> MarcoZ: what authentication are you using in your client/
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> prog077: do yo uhave a dual boot system and want to read the windows files in linux?
[12:06] <MarcoZ> realvnc's default
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> oh well
[12:08] <rampageoberon> MarcoZ: not sure what the problem is, try change the encryption method. Its working for me via linux vncviewer client but i have done it in windows before
[12:08] <techno> i tried to connect to internet using sudo pppoeconf  but it disconnects after few minutes !!!! please help
[12:09] <hardcore> fucks sake
[12:09] <soundray> techno: try to find out from the log files why it disconnects
[12:09] <soundray> !language | hardcore
[12:09] <hardcore> i cant change resolution anywhere, i cant install gfx card drivers and everytime i try to click something with my mouse the windows run away
[12:09] <techno> can u tell me the command
[12:10] <soundray> techno: 'less /var/log/syslog'
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> hardcore: what graphics card do you have?
[12:10] <hardcore> nvidia 8800 gt
[12:10] <soundray> techno: there may also be a separate ppp log, I'm not sure. Look in /var/log
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> hardcore; sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk; gksu envyng-gtk
[12:10] <hardcore> thats my problem
[12:10] <hardcore> i dont know where to put those commands
[12:10] <hardcore> no tutorial tells that
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> hardcore: in terminal
[12:11] <xkpe> pajamian, i tryed  dhcp, and static, and i have the same problem, the eth1 defenitions dont change, its only the dhcp, that after a little while its changed
[12:11] <hardcore> i see
[12:11] <Starchaser> hi. does anybody know ubuntu repository with linuxdcpp?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> !terminal | hardcore
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> hardcore: any code like that goes in terminal
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> hardcore: you can copy / paste there too
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> as well as from
[12:11] <soundray> !info linuxdcpp | Starchaser
[12:11] <soundray> Starchaser: it's in universe ^^
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> hardcore: envyng is great but you must rerun it after upgrading your kernel
[12:12] <hardcore> oh shit, something happening, thanks a lot :D
[12:12] <ioops> hi all
[12:12] <hardcore> no swearing yeye
[12:12] <Pirate_Hunter> how can i speed up internet browsing "i heard opendns might do it"?
[12:12] <kindofabuzz> opendns will help
[12:12] <hardcore> this ubuntu seems real nice but just takes some time
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> hardcore: sweet, yeah if you upgrade your kerenl you'll need to swap the driver to the failsafe so you can get a gui to rerun envyng
[12:13] <rampageoberon> Pirate_Hunter: all opendns will do is point you to the right place
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> hardcore: you have a lot to learn but its fun
[12:13] <Pirate_Hunter> rampageoberon: ok so what can i use to speed up my internet?
[12:13] <rampageoberon> Pirate_Hunter: to speed it up you need to get a faster line on both ends (more likely your end)
[12:13] <ioops> I have a problem with the latest version 8,04, after booting I have the prompt (initramfs) It s my first time I saw this prompt I don t understand why it s coming now. The boot before was realy goot and I was unsing ubuntu.
[12:13] <MarcoZ> Done
[12:13] <hardcore> i love how everything here is opensource+legal
[12:13] <MarcoZ> thanks for your help guys :D
[12:13] <ninuuz> hi
[12:13] <rampageoberon> Pirate_Hunter: there is no real way to speed up the connection otherwise
[12:13] <ioops> I try to look on forum but sevral things and I am a bit lost
[12:13] <ioops> about my problem
[12:14] <ninuuz> how do i set no sound on a game if i run it from console/terminal?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> hardcore: not all is, crossover office, cedega and nvidia official drivers arent
[12:14] <ioops> somebody can bring me their help please ? it would be very nice
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> !ask | loops
[12:14] <Oli``> I'm trying to copy the contents of a dir to another keeping permissions (recursive). I don't want to copy the actual dir. I'm trying rsync but it doesn't grab the hidden files when I specify the origin path as /path/*
[12:14] <soundray> ioops: do you see any error message except the initramfs prompt?
[12:14] <hardcore> oh ok, well anyway, time to reboot, thank you... this propably gets easier when i get decent resolution, 640x480 is killing me
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Oli``: co /path/to/folder /pathe/to/detination
[12:15] <ioops> sound yes, a lot of error mounting messge like /proc /sys or /root failed mount
[12:15] <ioops> soundray: yes
[12:16] <soundray> ioops: what was the last thing you did before it stopped working?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Oli``: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-592788.html
[12:16] <ioops> humm I think I configure the os only for plugins stuff
[12:17] <concave> is there a way to install .debs into my home directory as a non-root user?
[12:17] <xkpe> i configured static ip, but my dns keeps changing after awhile no matter how many times i change it, what can be changing my dns?
[12:17] <klezala> uh yes
[12:17] <soundray> Oli``: give rsync the source as /path/ instead of /path/* and adapt the target
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> concave: only root or sudo can install
[12:17] <ioops> soundray: yes it s this right, but before I upgrade the ubuntu and the kernel changed
[12:18] <concave> ActionParsnip, off the top of my head, i'm wondering how .deb files are packaged.  would there be any potential in extracting them into my home directory?
[12:18] <Starchaser> soundray: thnx
[12:18] <concave> (although that would negate dependency handling, but oh well)
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> concave: if you run groups in terminal you will see what groups you belong to, if you are in Admin then you can sudo / gksu stuff
[12:18] <soundray> ioops: can you boot the old kernel? It should still be on the grub menu.  You may have to hit Esc to see the grub menu during boot.
[12:18] <Rioting_pacifist> ive removed a swap partion from /etc/fstabs but cryptsetup keeps looking for it
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> concave: you can extract them, yes
[12:19] <concave> ActionParsnip, would i find that in the man page for dpkg or apt-get or ...?
[12:19] <ioops> soundray: good question I did check
[12:19] <ioops> I diidn t check
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> concave: ar vx /path/to/file.deb
[12:20] <Pirate_Hunter> rampageoberon: np
[12:20] <soundray> ioops: if you do that, and it boots the old kernel, try 'sudo apt-get -f install' to see if this ties up any loose ends from the update.
[12:20] <concave> awesome!  thanks ActionParsnip.  i forgot all about ar.
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> concave: or use ark /path/to/file.deb
[12:20] <ioops> soundray: ok I will do it
[12:21] <concave> what's the general opinion on setting LD_LIBRARY_PATH, assuming local paths are set _last_ (and "standard" paths are set first)?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> concave: no idea, sorry
[12:22] <ioops> soundray: normaly ubuntu don t remove the old kernel after upgrade ?
[12:22] <concave> (or does LD_LIBRARY_PATH only affect additional places to look for libs?  i.e., standard paths are checked first, and then afterwards, whatever is placed in LD_LIBRARY_PATH)
[12:22] <pajamian> concave: standard paths are checked first, LD_LIBRARY_PATH is for additional places
[12:22] <soundray> concave: I've had to do it occasionally. By default, it's unset in ubuntu
[12:23] <pajamian> concave: I take it back, actually LD_LIBRARY_PATH is checked first, I think
[12:23] <ouaibe_> stupid autoconnect...
[12:23] <soundray> ioops: that's right, it keeps them around to help with precisely the kind of problem you are experiencing.
[12:23] <iix> how do i add a program to start up as service ?
[12:23] <ioops> soundray: ok
[12:23] <ioops> Iwill try your solution
[12:23] <soundray> ioops: it only installs the new kernel and adapts the menu.lst so the new one will be booted.
[12:24] <kmg> I can't boot regularly or into recovery with any of the many kernels I have: my usplash segfaults with an "error 6."  anything I can do about this?
[12:24] <hkBst> did alpah 5 get released?
[12:24] <KoolD> how to restart a service??
[12:24] <pajamian> iix: if you want to start it as a service you need an init.d file for it, if you just want to start it when you log into gnome you goto System / Preferences / Sessions
[12:24] <soundray> iix: you write a SysV init style script. There is a template in /etc/init.d/skeleton. 'man update-rc.d' to learn how to activate it.
[12:25] <concave> ah ha http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?ld.so+8; you're right pajamian
[12:25] <pajamian> KoolD: sudo /etc/init.d/servicename restart
[12:25] <soundray> !intrepid | hkBst
[12:25] <ioops> soundray: it will be possible to replace the new by the old iin the menu that s right ?
[12:25] <iix> thanks.
[12:25] <KoolD> pajamian: thanks
[12:25] <pajamian> concave: it works that way so you can use non-standard locations for libraries and override specific libraries for specific programs.
[12:26] <soundray> ioops: yes, but for now you should just try to boot the old one by selecting it once.
[12:26] <kmg> I can't boot regularly or into recovery with any of the many kernels I have: my usplash segfaults with an "error 6."  anything I can do about this?
[12:26] <concave> yeah, i was confused at first because i thought that LD_PRELOAD would be searched first, then "standard" locations, then LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[12:26] <hkBst> thanks soundray
[12:26] <pajamian> concave: I'm not sure what LD_PRELOAD is to be honest.
[12:27] <ioops> soundray: ok I will try and I say later because the computer is not in the same building
[12:27] <concave> pajamian, you can override shared libraries by setting it.
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> kmg: uninstall bootsplash in any boot you can get
[12:27] <soundray> kmg: your usplash segfaults? Are you sure?
[12:27] <concave> i think that LD_PRELOAD only applies to shared libs, and LD_LIBRARY_PATH applies to all libs?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> kmg: you may need to boot to live cd to edit the files that kick it up
[12:27] <Rioting_pacifist> ive removed a swap partion from /etc/fstabs but cryptsetup keeps looking for it
[12:28] <pajamian> concave: at any rate, I've used LD_LIBRARY_PATH when I needed to compile a program from source and needed newer versions of libs than what comes with ubuntu.
[12:28] <kmg> ActionParsnip: that's what I was afraid of.
[12:28] <kmg> soundray: yeah, it says usplash is segfaulting
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> kmg: it may be the case if you cant get any sort of boot then youll have to carve it out then remove it
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Rioting_pacifist: http://linux.die.net/man/8/cryptsetup
[12:29] <soundray> kmg: perhaps you can hit E in the grub menu to edit the boot entry, then edit the kernel line to remove 'quiet splash'
[12:29] <kmg> ActionParsnip: if I just uninstall the splash, then it will do a regular boot?
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> kmg: should do
[12:29] <kmg> soundray: i'll try that
[12:29] <concave> the problem i've run into, and i don't think i'm the first, is that when compiling vim as a regular user, i'm getting an error during ./configure regarding having no terminal library installed (like ncurses).  so it looks like i can either install ncurses-dev, or build it from source.  either way, since i'm a non-root user, i'm going to have to point to the right library during vim's ./configure.
[12:30] <pajamian> concave: why not just install all the build dependancies for vim from apt?
[12:30] <pajamian> concave: sudo apt-get build-dep vim
[12:30] <Kartagis> hi again
[12:30] <iturk> hi there friends I am having problems trying to access a share drive mounted has vfat on fstab! Can someone have a look at this - http://pastebin.com/d47c77cd2
[12:31] <concave> i'm not a sudoer :-/
[12:31] <pajamian> concave: ahhh, I see
[12:31] <concave> but i didn't know there was a build-dep option. that's kinda cool!
[12:32] <pajamian> concave: and hence you can't install vim from apt either.
[12:32] <concave> bingo
[12:32] <Pirate_Hunter> is it possible to have to firewalls runing without a problem i.e. firehol and ufw?
[12:32] <soundray> concave: Ubuntu is difficult for development if you aren't in the admin group
[12:32] <pajamian> concave: good luck, sounds like you're being forced to do a lot of work for nothing.
[12:32] <concave> pajamian, yeah, i'm going to end up having to contact the sysadmin... *grumble*
[12:32] <soundray> concave: can't you download and unpack a vim .deb and try to run the binary directly?
[12:33] <concave> soundray, other than what i've run into, what are some other reasons for this?
[12:33] <pajamian> soundray: that's a good idea
[12:33] <Dranik> which repositories should I use to get the latest KDE 4.1.1 ?
[12:33] <concave> soundray, i'm not sure what you mean.  do you mean extract the .deb and run vim, or is there some way to "run" a deb file like a binary?
[12:34] <concave> (i never got totally up to snuff with apt and .debs)
[12:34] <soundray> concave: I mean unpack the deb archive in your home, then run '$HOME/unpackdir/bin/vim' or similar
[12:35] <concave> that's what i'm going to try right now.  that's a good idea
[12:35] <pajamian> concave: don't be surprised if it doesn't work, but it is a good idea
[12:35] <hardcore> oh nice, now i got better resolution :P
[12:35] <soundray> concave: library support is the main trouble; also the six-monthly updates -- as a user you're bitten if the sysadmin upgrades and you're bitten when she does ;)
[12:36] <soundray> *doesn't
[12:36] <hardcore> but then let's talk about more... do i need 3rd party firewall/antivirus since running OS without em drives me paranoid :D
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> hardcore: cool, as i said. you will need to run that every time you get  a new kernel
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> hardcore: and put your driver to the failsafe before you reboot to the new kernel so you can rerun the app
[12:37] <hardcore> uhm, how do i know when i reboot into new kernel? :D
[12:37] <hardcore> is it when some update comes or?
[12:37] <soundray> ActionParsnip: what do you mean exactly -- switch the driver with displayconfig-gtk?
[12:37] <concave> indeed, this plan was too cunning to work!
[12:38] <hardcore> actionparsnip is kinda lonely, you should get more staff here to help people :D
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> soundray: edit xorg.conf so the driver is nv and not nvidia
[12:38] <pajamian> concave: lack of dependancies
[12:38] <soundray> hardcore: there is no staff here
[12:38] <Kartagis> is 1 gb swap sufficient or 1gb RAM?
[12:38] <kyo> 有人能够帮助我安装讯雷吗 ？
[12:38] <magnetron> hardcore, none in here is staff, everyone is volunteering
[12:38] <hardcore> oh ok
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> hardcore: all users, just like you
[12:38] <hateball> !chinese | kyo
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> hardcore: just helping where we can
[12:38] <hardcore> well thats great, hope you dont rip your hairs off...
[12:39] <pajamian> concave: if it were me I'd just wait and ask the sysadmin
[12:39] <hateball> So what is a tool to monitor disk i/o in realtime?
[12:39] <hardcore> ok so well now few questions: Do i need 3rd party firewall/antivirus and how i can choose irc-server which is not on that list
[12:39] <kmg> do i need a livecd in to run chkdsk?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> hateball: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/monitor-your-ubuntu-system-with-saidar.html
[12:40] <concave> pajamian, there's a chance i picked up the wrong package, too. i extracted the .deb and ended up with data.tar.gz, control.tar.gz, and debian-binary.  in data.tar.gz, i found a basic heirarchy, including usr/bin/vim.basic (although that's too minimal, so yeargh, probably wrong package).  apparently i'm missing libgpm...  sysadmin it is, then!
[12:40] <soundray> kmg: there is no chkdsk -- do you mean fsck?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> kmg: you can chkdsk any umounted volume freely, you can do it on mounted partitions but its not advised
[12:40] <jrib> concave: if you can't use the deb, why aren't you just grabbing a tar.gz?
[12:40] <hateball> ActionParsnip: Looks neat, thanks :)
[12:40] <pajamian> concave: if you have another box you may be able to compile it with static linking
[12:41] <digin4> chkdsk is for windows 8|
[12:41] <concave> !!! that's a great idea pajamian !
[12:41] <kmg> ActionParsnip: but I suppose I can't do it from the grub command line =P
[12:41] <concave> lolz: there's a package called "vim-full" that i totally missed.  also, i didn't know i could grab a tar file for it.
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> kmg: id do it from livecd. theres a way to shutdown and make it do it next boot before loading the os
[12:42] <kmg> ActionParsnip: yeah, but I can't even boot.  I think I've tracked my problem down to some kind of filesystem corruption.  I managed to remove splash from the boot command, and now I see that it's hanging at trying to load the ext3-fs
[12:43] <kmg> and now my processor is overheating =P
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> kmg: id get in livecd town and check it out
[12:43] <kmg> yeah
[12:44] <kmg> gotta see if I have any lying about
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> kmg: you could always download a gentoo minimal for 80mb and use that
[12:44] <concave> i'm feeling more lazy than impatient, so i'll just contact the sysadmin and wait for a while instead of pursuing this any further.  thanks for your help guys!
[12:44] <prodigel> Hi all. Probably you've heard this hundred of times till now: How can I install google chrome on ubuntu? Tried using wine, still if running wine chrome_installer.exe I get no feed back, just de prompter back
[12:45] <jrib> prodigel: you can't yet
[12:45] <Pici> prodigel: You can't until Google releases a Linux binary.
[12:45] <kmg> prodigel: they haven't released the linux version yet.
[12:45] <prodigel> jrib, still some people said it's done'able
[12:45] <jrib> prodigel: then ask *them*
[12:45] <kmg> ActionParsnip: i'd love to, but i'm on my eee pc right now which doesn't have a burner
[12:45] <prodigel> no one tried it?
[12:46] <kmg> prodigel: it's on webkit anyway, who needs it.
[12:46] <Pici> prodigel: No, we've all tried it. Not even the source they provide compiles into a useable form.
[12:46] <kindofabuzz> prodigel, http://www.myscienceisbetter.info/2008/09/install-google-chrome-on-linux-using-wine.html
[12:46] <jrib> kmg: well that's not nice :)
[12:46] <kindofabuzz> ran like crap on mine
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> kmg: make a bootable usb key ;)
[12:46] <pajamian> prodigel: some people have had luck with wine
[12:46] <jrib> prodigel: i've tried it in a windows virtual machine, heh
[12:46] <hardcore> uhm, how can i connect into some server that is not on this irc-client's list of servers?
[12:46] <kmg> jrib: i've been in web development a long time, i've got a right to complain about webkit
[12:46] <hardcore> xchat gnome
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> hardcore: add your own
[12:47] <kindofabuzz> hardcore, add it
[12:47] <up_the_irons> I tried upgrading a Xen VM of dapper to hardy.  Things went well until new packages started getting installed.  I got seg faults everywhere. The VM became unusable.  I mounted it on the Dom0 and untar'd my base install image onto it;  it boots up now and is usable, but dpkg / apt-get, naturally, are complaining about broken package this, broken package that... any suggestions on how to proceed?
[12:47] <kmg> ActionParsnip: friend stole my last one!
[12:47] <hardcore> hmm, i dont see "Add server" anywhere
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> kmg: theyre cheap o buy one ;)
[12:48] <hardcore> oh now i found
[12:48] <kmg> ActionParsnip: i could, but i wanna fix it RIGHT NOW ! =P
[12:48] <kindofabuzz> hardcore, Xchat > network list
[12:48] <kindofabuzz> hardcore, ctrl S
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> kmg: well you need some form of bootable media
[12:48] <Kartagis> is 1 gb swap sufficient or 1gb RAM?
[12:49] <kmg> ActionParsnip: i've got a bunch of unlabeled disks, and I know several of them are livecds
[12:49] <kindofabuzz> if all you do is browse and check email and basic stuff yeah
[12:49] <kmg> so i'm going through the stack
[12:49] <pajamian> Kartagis: 2gb is recommended but you would be fine with 1
[12:49] <Dawson> Hey all, I am installing ubuntu on another machine and I am getting to the 'Detect Disk' stage and it keeps saying It cannot detect the disk even though its very much present
[12:49] <Dawson> is there any solution to this, as it doesnt have drivers as such
[12:50] <bringatowel> Dawson, have you checked to make sure the drive appears in the BIOS?
[12:50] <Dawson> yep
[12:50] <Dawson> i even tried installing windows and that had no problem finding the drive
[12:50] <Kartagis> okay thanks pajamian. one more question. is it possible to remove tcl without removing xchat?
[12:50] <Dawson> its defintely there and working, brand new
[12:50] <Pirate_Hunter> how can i clear my terminal buffer of all commands i have done so far?
[12:51] <pajamian> Kartagis: why would you want to?
[12:51] <bringatowel> Dawson, so probably what is happening is that there is no working driver for your IDE card, start by doing a search for your motherboard model or IDE card (if its seperate)
[12:51] <seekingtruth> hello sinners
[12:51] <Kartagis> pajamian> I want to install newer TCL
[12:51] <pajamian> Kartagis: just install it, then, don't remove the old
[12:51] <bazhang> !hi | seekingtruth
[12:51] <Kartagis> Pirate_Hunter> rm ~/.bash_history
[12:52] <Dawson> bringatowel, I have searched for the mobo drivers but they are all windows! pah! and the hard disk brings up no driver results
[12:52] <bringatowel> Dawson, what you might have to do is download a driver for it, and then load that during the install. what motherboard do you have?
[12:52] <pajamian> Kartagis: what is your reason for wanting a newer tcl?
[12:52] <Kartagis> ok pajamian
[12:52] <Kartagis> pajamian> for eggdrop
[12:52] <bringatowel> Dawson, it's not the hard drive that needs drivers, it is just the motherboard/IDE controller
[12:52] <pajamian> Kartagis: does eggdrop actualyl require it?
[12:52] <Kartagis> pajamian> TCL? yes
[12:53] <pajamian> Kartagis: a newer tcl than ubuntu already has
[12:53] <jrib> Kartagis: eggdrop is in the repositories
[12:53] <Dawson> bringatowel, ohh really, that makes sense, the company only provide windows drivers though it seems
[12:53] <bringatowel> Dawson, try searching on the name of the motherboard + ubuntu or linux, also if you can figure out what IDE controller is integrated, you can search on that
[12:53] <Kartagis> pajamian> yes
[12:53] <bringatowel> Dawson, usually you can find someone else who has tried to install linux on the same hardware, and there might be a community written driver, or perhaps a driver for a similar controller card that will work. do you what know what the make and model of your motherboard are?
[12:54] <Dawson> bringatowel, k9agm3
[12:54] <pajamian> Kartagis: you can either install eggdrop from the ubuntu repositores or if you want to compile your own, then compile your own tcl and install it in it's own location under /usr/local, use the --prefix= configure directive
[12:54] <Dawson> bringatowel,  understand what your saying, I am trying to find now. its a MSI otherboard
[12:55] <coozier> I wanted to ask an ot question here on the basis that it was answered last time for me and I've forgotten the answer now. When I use firefox with Adblock and Noscript it stops googlereader working correctly, but there is asimple fix which someone was good enough to tell me last time I was here. I'm really hoping the same person is around which is a big ask because it was awhile ago but here goes!
[12:55] <kyo> 中国
[12:55] <bazhang> !cn | kyo
[12:55] <soundray> kmg: the eeepc will boot from a USB CD-ROM
[12:55] <Kartagis> pajamian> I did compile my own tcl but eggdrop still finds the old one
[12:55] <bringatowel> Dawson, what kind of hard drive is it, IDE or SATA?
[12:55] <Dawson> its an IDE drive
[12:56] <jrib> coozier: you should grep the logs if no one can help now
[12:56] <pajamian> bringatowel: use LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point eggdrop to the new one.
[12:56] <jrib> !logs | coozier
[12:56] <pajamian> Kartagis:  use LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point eggdrop to the new one.
[12:56] <pajamian> bringatowel: that was meant for soemone else, sorry
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Dawson: they're all ide, you mean pata (just nit picking)
[12:56] <bringatowel> lol
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Dawson: is the pata controller enabled??
[12:56] <coozier> jrib thanks didn't know about that reference
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Dawson: in bios
[12:57] <Kartagis> pajamian> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/path/to/tcl/lib make?
[12:57] <Dawson> ActionPArsnip: lol im checking now
[12:57] <seekingtruth> !hi | bazhang
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Dawson: yeah if its disabled in bios you wont see devices attatched to it
[12:57] <pajamian> Kartagis:  /path/to/tcl/lddirectory
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Dawson: you could also try loading bios defaults
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Dawson: is iy a new motherboard?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> *it
[12:58] <Dawson> yep new today
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Dawson: could be faulty
[12:58] <Kartagis> pajamian> lddirectory meaning?
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Dawson: DOA
[12:58] <pajamian> Kartagis: one sec ...
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Dawson: not a bad lil board
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> Dawson: for the price
[12:59] <bringatowel> ActionParsnip, he says he tested it in windows
[13:00] <Dawson> yes its all tested and working you see
[13:00] <Dawson> its not to bad, just budget to run ubuntu server
[13:00] <indian_munnda> can anyone tell me that is it possible to do port forwarding on dynamic IP?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Dawson: ahh, i missed that bit
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> Dawson: then its the best ;)
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> indian_munnda: absolutely
[13:01] <indian_munnda> ActionParsnip: can you plz explain
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> indian_munnda: id register with no-ip.com and get your system resolving to a name and refresh the ip for that name very hour
[13:01] <needhelp> Hello... I have captured some videos from a DV webcam to DV type 2 using the kino program. I then converted to DVD files with .mpg extension (resolution: 720*576). And finally created a DVD using DeVeDe. Now when I put the disc on the DVD player on the PC, everything looks fine. But when I put the disc in the DVD player in the livingroom, the very left and right sides of the video are vertically cut off. Any idea?
[13:01] <kindofabuzz> dynadns
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> indian_munnda: the port forwarding is done in your route
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> r
[13:01] <kindofabuzz> linksys routers support dynadns
[13:01] <kindofabuzz> internally
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> ooh i gots a linksys but am using no-ip
[13:02] <ykphuah> needhelp: 720*576 doesn't look like widescreen to me.
[13:02] <needhelp> ykphuah: it isn't widescreen (16:9)
[13:03] <wangor> hello, sorry I try to get tomcat5.5 running on ubuntu, but it doesn't work. Each time i get /etc/init.d/tomcat5.5 start it tells me it is starting [ OK ] but in fact nothing happens, I can type [...] start many times, efect is always the same, any ideas ?
[13:03] <needhelp> ykphuah: the left and right sides are still cut off
[13:03] <indian_munnda> ActionParsnip: ok i m registering at no-ip.com
[13:04] <ykphuah> wangor: look at what the /etc/init.d/tomcat5.5 does and try to start it manually first.
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> indian_munnda: then get the duc client and apply your account to it, it will refresh the ip in their dns so you will have the right ip
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> kindofabuzz: my linksys does not say anything about dynadns
[13:04] <rozyo> i have issues to webcam. is anyone available to talk to me, and givesome advice?
[13:04] <ykphuah> needhelp: try making it widescreen, and have the top and bottom blacked out.
[13:05] <rozyo> with webcam
[13:05] <jevangelo> hey, is ubuntu keeping up with clamav?
[13:05] <kindofabuzz> ActionParsnip, hmm maybe it's only the dd-wrt firmware, i thought all linksys supported it though
[13:05] <needhelp> needhelp: how should I make it widescreen ?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> rozyo: what webcam you got?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> kindofabuzz: its not in my stock WRT54GL
[13:05] <jevangelo> the clamav package that ubuntu installs is too old to get updates from clamav
[13:05] <ykphuah> needhelp: how did you convert into mpg?
[13:06] <Dawson> 2secs guys
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> ykphuah: from what?
[13:06] <Dawson> my monitors gone funny:D
[13:06] <needhelp> needhelp: If i make the DVD files (.mpg) widescreen, it will look quite funny when the image is being stretched
[13:06] <kindofabuzz> ActionParsnip, what firmware you got ?
[13:06] <dVs--> I cant sem to find a way uninstall Frostwire .. can anyone help ?
[13:06] <needhelp> needhelp: I did use a video editing tool to convert from DV type 2 (.dv) to DVD files (.mpg)
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> kindofabuzz: 4.30.11. works fine
[13:07] <ykphuah> needhelp: I have never encoded a dvd before, but as I know, all DVDs are in widescreen format, that's why the top/bottom is blacked on a 4:3 screen.
[13:07] <jrib> dVs--: system -> administration -> synaptic
[13:07] <dVs--> apt-rem doesnt work neither does aptitude-remove
[13:07] <kindofabuzz> ActionParsnip, it's only the WRT54G that supports it
[13:07] <dVs--> nope its not in synaptic
[13:07] <jrib> dVs--: well how did you install it?
[13:07] <Dawson> actionparsnip: did you say pata?
[13:07] <pajamian> Kartagis: find the .pc file and point PKG_CONFIG_PATH to that directory
[13:07] <dVs--> i clicked on the .deb and a little packedge installer did it
[13:07] <Dawson> actionparsnip: in bios, where would that even be under, i have never heard of that
[13:07] <bringatowel> ykphuah, not all dvds are widescreen, also there are varying aspect ratios
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Dawson: yes, pata is the ribbon cable, sata is a thinner one (usually orange)
[13:07] <seekingtruth> hello sinners
[13:08] <dVs--> not add remove or synaptic
[13:08] <seekingtruth> !hi | biella
[13:08] <bazhang> !ot > seekingtruth
[13:08] <Dawson> actionparsnip: what setting am i look for in bios exactly?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Dawson: its what people call IDE, when all hard drives are IDE
[13:08] <jrib> dVs--: then it should be in synaptic.  What does this return: apt-cache policy frostwire
[13:08] <Dawson> aaah i see
[13:08] <biella> hu
[13:08] <seekingtruth> bazhang: :)
[13:08] <biella> hi
[13:08] <biella> i mean
[13:08] <bringatowel> ActionParsnip, yeah the names are really funny now though, MSI's site calls it IDE :P
[13:09] <Kartagis> pajamian> what about the LD_LIBRARY_PATH?
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Dawson: it varys wildly from bios to bios. It may be in integrated peripherals but it might be worded different
[13:09] <krazy-h> Salut les amis
[13:09] <bazhang> !fr | krazy-h
[13:09] <Pie-rate> i have an ir remote that i use to control my computer volume by running amixer, but the problem is it doesn't show the volume display thing in the middle of the screen
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Dawson: there is not concrete answer, you may have to rtfm
[13:09] <Pie-rate> is there a command that will?
[13:09] <dVs--> frostwire:
[13:09] <dVs--> Installed: 4.17.0
[13:09] <dVs--> Candidate: 4.17.0
[13:09] <dVs--> Version table:
[13:09] <dVs--> *** 4.17.0 0
[13:09] <dVs--> 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[13:09] <FloodBot2> dVs--: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:09] <ioops> soundray: I try to boot on a old kernel it s not possible
[13:09] <Dawson> humm
[13:09] <Dawson> something wasd diabled
[13:09] <Dawson> IDE Bus
[13:09] <jrib> dVs--: what does 'sudo apt-get remove frostwire' return?
[13:09] <dVs--> whooops
[13:09] <indian_munnda> ActionParsnip: i have registered to no-ip.com, now plz tell me how to do port forwarding using it?
[13:10] <Pirate_Hunter> indian_munnda: why would you need to register to portforward when their is a guide for portforwarding on portforward.com
[13:10] <dVs--> jrib thankx man .. that seemed to do it
[13:11] <Dawson> ActionParsnip,Bringatowel: I enabled PCI IDE BusMaster
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> indian_munnda: thats in your router, there is no black and white answer to how to set it up. id grab the user manual for your router
[13:11] <Dawson> for now it doesnt find anything?
[13:11] <Dawson> *but now
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> Dawson: anything about PATA or onboard IDE setup?
[13:12] <bringatowel> Dawson, im not sure if that will make any difference, maybe try resetting the defaults?
[13:12] <shingen> is it common for intel wireless cards to crash, or  + vpnc or + cisco vpn client to crash a laptop?  This is the second laptop I've had that crashes with an intel wireless 2200bg card
[13:12] <olmari> HEllo
[13:12] <Dawson> nothing as far as i can see
[13:12] <indian_munnda> ActionParsnip: that i'll do in router but it is demanding source and destination ip. And i don't know that
[13:12] <bringatowel> Dawson, can you find the link for that motherboard on MSI's site?
[13:12] <olmari> Anyone around that would know how to get data from serial port to act like it's coming from keyboard?
[13:13] <Dawson> okay i have reset defaults
[13:13] <Dawson> yes i have it
[13:13] <indian_munnda> ActionParsnip: i kow my dynamic ip and the ip provided to my lan card.
[13:13] <Dawson> http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1240
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> well the source ip will be your wan ip and it wont be asking that, it will ask the PORT, you set the port number you want to forward, then the ip and port of the system to forward to
[13:13] <magnetron> olmari, investigate "serial TTY"
[13:13] <ioops> soundray: I boot on a live cd and chroot my /
[13:13] <ioops> and try to make apt-get -f install and nothing append
[13:14] <olmari> magnetron: I'll look that :)
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> indian_munnda: id set the system you are forwarding to to use static ip to save confusion
[13:14] <indian_munnda> ActionParsnip: ok, but my wan ip keeps changing
[13:16] <Dawson> bringatowel: http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=1&prod_no=1240
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> indian_munnda: yes thats why you have the no-ip account
[13:16] <ioops> ok, i m so lost it will by so nice if somebody could help me please
[13:16] <olmari> magnetron: Hmm... Trying to figure out this... Too much info still =)
[13:16] <kindofabuzz> indian_munnda, dyndns.com
[13:17] <shingen> sorry to repeat, but... is it common for intel wireless cards to crash, or  + vpnc or + cisco vpn client to crash a laptop?  This is the second laptop I've had that crashes with an intel wireless 2200bg card
[13:17] <kindofabuzz> or is no-ip the same?
[13:17] <dVs--> i just reinstalled frostwire and it still wont start for me
[13:17] <olmari> shingen: Well I have 2100 on my laptop and I don't see it crashing
[13:17] <jrib> dVs--: pastebin the error you get from 'frostwire' in a shell
[13:17] <shingen> no-ip & dyndns is almost the same, both provide Dynamic DNS services
[13:17] <shingen> olmari: but that's not a 2200 is it? :)
[13:18] <kindofabuzz> dVs--, do you have sun java installed or just openjdk? frostwire will not run with openjdk
[13:18] <olmari> shingen: nope, but you asked about intel cards ;)
[13:18] <dVs--> ok let me try installing java
[13:18] <amenado> whose familiar with creating udev rules? can you assist me with it? do you know if it can use same info as lshal does? my rules seem to not make a difference
[13:19] <kindofabuzz> dVs--, you said reinstalled, did it work before?
[13:19] <bring2towels> Dawson, where does the hard drive show up in the "Standard CMOS Features" screen?
[13:19] <dVs--> nope
[13:20] <Dawson> bring2towels: primary ide master; and then primary ide slave is the dvd drive
[13:20] <kindofabuzz> dVs--, yeah then installing sun's java you should be good
[13:20] <dVs--> i just tried to do it from a term like jrib suggested and got an error about java so i am trying to install th sun ver
[13:20] <olmari> magnetron: hmm found "catty" that sounds promising
[13:21] <kindofabuzz> dVs--, sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[13:21] <dVs--> thankx guys .. was in here for hours yesterday and no one would respond ..
[13:21] <bring2towels> Dawson, hmm that should be fine, maybe check the boot sequence in the Advanced Bios Features?
[13:21] <Dawson> would the boot sequence have an effect then? I am booting the cd drive first to get to the install loaded
[13:23] <Dawson> beautiful!
[13:23] <Dawson> that bus thing
[13:23] <Dawson> seems to work now!!!
[13:23] <Dawson> thank you guys!!
[13:23] <bring2towels> Dawson, woohoo!
[13:23] <Dawson> hahaha! yeah man, im so happy
[13:23] <Dawson> been bugging me
[13:23] <Dawson> i have another 16 of these mahcines 2 make today with same spec
[13:23] <olmari> magnetron: It's some C++ proggie... But I'm still wondering could there be some one liner or so to redirect serial port into 'keyboard' type data input
[13:24] <bring2towels> good to hear, i was not finding any mentions of driver problems so it nearly stumped me :D
[13:24] <bring2towels> nice, that looks like a good mobo :)
[13:24] <Dawson> yeah neither me thats what was so confusing! Was that the IDE Pata  thing was disabled by default
[13:24] <Dawson> yeah it isnt bad, cost like £30.00 from aria.co.uk
[13:24] <Dawson> nice and cheap for what we want
[13:24] <kindofabuzz> dVs--, that work?
[13:25] <Dawson> ActionParsnip: Thank you for your help also
[13:26] <brutus> how do I get matlab for gutsy?
[13:26] <magnetron> olmari, the default used to be that the linux system EXPECTED any serial input to be typed into a terminal. (with mgetty). however, this expects that the serial device is a serial terminal, that supports two-way communication
[13:26] <magnetron> brutus, we don't sell matlab
[13:26] <neoline> Guys i need help regarding installing packages from an iso image created with aptoncd!
[13:27] <bring2towels> Dawson, yah that is not bad for having AM2 and DDR2-800. its strange that the bios defaults have problems, but as long as it works.... :)
[13:27] <magnetron> brutus, if you want matlab, contact mathworks
[13:27] <dooglus> I'm returning my laptop to the manufacturer for repair.  I need to wipe the hdd before I do so - what's a good way?
[13:27] <olmari> magnetron: I know my device (barcode scanner) accepts input data too, There is even instructions for inputting data manually
[13:27] <shingen> woot, bug 228633 = ubuntu freezes with wifi + laptop
[13:28] <magnetron> olmari, then you do NOT want the text to be typed in as if it was typed into any terminal
[13:28] <amenado> dooglus-> diskwipe ?
[13:28] <neoline> Guys i need help regarding installing packages from an iso image created with aptoncd! pls help! :|
[13:28] <bring2towels> brutus, you might want to check out Octave or SciLab
[13:28] <dooglus> amenado: !info diskwipe
[13:28] <dooglus> !ino diskwipe
[13:28] <dooglus> !info diskwipe
[13:28] <olmari> magnetron: well what I do want then? :-p
[13:28] <hazrd> im trying to compile the newest version of bmpanel and getting this msg: http://pastebin.com/m36811f65
[13:28] <hazrd> What should i do? :O
[13:28] <olmari> magnetron: I mean I'd just like to read an barcode to an program :)
[13:29] <magnetron> olmari, exactly
[13:29] <dooglus> amenado: where can I find it?
[13:29] <neoline> help with aptoncd please!
[13:29] <amenado> dooglus-> google ?
[13:29] <magnetron> olmari, which program?
[13:29] <dorto> Is the Ubuntu Packaging Guide available in PDF format for taking print out?
[13:29] <shingen> hazrd: ask the guys who created it?
[13:29] <olmari> magnetron: any program... Bills to browser/inet banking, DVD barcodes to cataloging proggies etc
[13:29] <dooglus> amenado: also, what happens when the wiping program gets to itself?  won't it start to fail?
[13:30] <amenado> dooglus-> it can be put on  a cdrom?
[13:30] <olmari> barcode scanner outputs decoded data so it is plain ascii characters that is outputs as for computer perspective
[13:30] <brutus> bring2towels, thanks
[13:31] <neoline> or just tell me how can i use the apt archives *.deb files for installation satisfying dependencies! please! :-(
[13:31] <dooglus> amenado: I found 'wipe' - that looks like what I want...  $ sudo wipe /dev/sda2
[13:31] <dooglus> Okay to WIPE 1 special file ? (Yes/No) yes
[13:31] <shingen> hazrd: it looks like there are some syntax issues with their code and variable declaration... you either know enough to fix it, or speak to the guy(s) who wrote it to fix... it doesn't look like missing dependencies
[13:32] <dooglus> hopefully the wipe program will stay around in RAM while it wipes the disk - but I guess I'll see what happens
[13:32] <bring2towels> brutus, no prob, you can install them using Add/Remove
[13:32] <olmari> magnetron: I know "cat /dev/rfcomm1" shows the data on terminal screen, but it's half-useless there
[13:32] <MortenB> shouldn't alpha 5 be out now?
[13:33] <stylianos> Hello
[13:33] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 MortenB
[13:33] <jlong> Anyone have any tips/tricks to stabilize Firefox and Adobe Flash content on Ubunty 8.04??
[13:33] <neoline> Help please!
[13:33] <stylianos> Which pulseaudio package is required for flash to work?
[13:33] <neoline> anyone?
[13:33] <stylianos> !pulse
[13:33] <shingen> !freebeer
[13:33] <stylianos> !firefox-pulse
[13:33] <neoline> !aptoncd
[13:33] <stylianos> !firefox bug
[13:33] <stylianos> !firefox-bug
[13:34] <shingen> !intel sucks
[13:34] <FloodBot2> ubottu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:34] <stylianos> ah shoot
[13:34] <dooglus> stylianos: I don't think pulse is needed at all to get sound from firefox
[13:34] <olmari> magnetron: nah, catty wasn't it either :)
[13:34] <bring2towels> jlong, stabilize? it works fine for me, you might want to install the version from Adobe's website instead of from the Ubuntu repo though
[13:34] <stylianos> dooglus: There is a bug with firefox and flash, I needed it for my box
[13:34] <brutus> bring2towels, I got it with apt-get..., thanks anyways
[13:34] <LjL> !botabuse | stylianos, shingen
[13:34] <jlong> bring - Yes, stabilize.  It crashes randomly, mostly when there is Flash content
[13:34] <dooglus> stylianos: I think running "aoss firefox" fixed everything for me
[13:35] <jlong> bring - I'm using the Adobe version
[13:35] <stylianos> dooglus: ah, running what? :S
[13:35] <brutus> !octave
[13:35] <LjL> !info octave | brutus
[13:35] <bring2towels> brutus, sure that works too, you might want to get the Qt version to have a user interface
[13:35] <LjL> eh...
[13:35] <dooglus> stylianos: sticking "aoss" in front of the firefox command line made it work
[13:35] <bring2towels> !octave3
[13:35] <LjL> !info octave2.9
[13:35] <dooglus> stylianos: I don't understand much about linux sound systems
[13:36] <bring2towels> !info qtoctave
[13:36] <magnetron> olmari, you are a little bit on your own here. the case where you you rs232 keyboards connected over bluetooth to be used as input in any app really isn't a common problem. any app that need something similar should serial port support in the specific app itself. either that, or you should have bought a ps/2 or USB bar code scanner instead
[13:37] <brutus> bring2towels, hmm....doesn't seem to be there in my repos
[13:37] <jlong> I get segmentation faults left and right and the debug dump points right to Flash
[13:37] <bring2towels> stylianos, yes but in addition to using pulse there are other ways to fix it too
[13:37] <erUSUL> !info libflashsupport | stylianos
[13:37] <stylianos> bring2towels: ?
[13:37] <dooglus> jlong: I get a crash every time I try to play a youtube video in fullscreen in firefox.  I found the solution was to stop trying to do it
[13:37] <olmari> magnetron: well it is what it is, but generally linux is king at these type of situations... just if I'd know better to code scripts at any language =)
[13:38] <jlong> doog - haha, that's one way to fix it i suppose
[13:38] <bring2towels> stylianos, did you install flash from adobe's site or from the ubuntu repo?
[13:38] <dooglus> jlong: are your crashes in the same situation?  trying to play full screen?
[13:38] <jrib> dooglus: you should try using nspluginwrapper.  I know it's to get flash on 64bit, but I believe you can still use it in 32bit and I have no problems here on 64bit
[13:38] <stylianos> bring2towels: I'm getting it from the repos. installing now.
[13:38] <magnetron> olmari, if more people were in your situation, someone would have made the software already
[13:38] <ninuuz> is there like a site ripper tool for ubuntu?
[13:38] <jlong> doog - no, i get crashes even after Firefox has been sitting idle on a page
[13:38] <bring2towels> stylianos, you actually want to install the one from adobe's site i think
[13:39] <jlong> Gmail crashes it, any video site will
[13:39] <jrib> ninuuz: like wget?
[13:39] <dooglus> jrib: I'm wiping my root partition at the moment, so I can't try anything much.  I'm surprised that anything's still running to be honest
[13:39] <dooglus> jlong: there's no flash on gmail.com is there?
[13:39] <bring2towels> !info octave3.0 brutus
[13:39] <bring2towels> !info octave3.0
[13:39] <erUSUL> ninuuz: wget curl or httrack
[13:40] <olmari> magnetron: actually there is one, but it is for some barcode scanner that outputs data on it's own protocol, so it didn't work... developers did promise to look into it, but being busy it can take forever :)
[13:40] <magnetron> olmari, investiage this (but it will require heavy configing)
[13:40] <bring2towels> brutus, there are a couple different packages, octave3.0 and qtoctave
[13:40] <jlong> doog - well, i just signed into my gmail.  it loaded the page, then Firefox closed
[13:40] <Pie-rate> is there a command that will adjust the volume in gnome and display the volume OSD?
[13:40] <erUSUL> Pie-rate: amixer ? alsamixer?
[13:41] <dooglus> jlong: did you try a new profile?  maybe your firefox profile is corrupted?
[13:41] <jlong> yep, I did that because I had to downgrade from the even-buggier Firefox 3 that came with 8.04
[13:41] <olmari> magnetron: written in perl. FlicServ was the name
[13:41] <jlong> I've never had so many problems with a version of Linux as I have with this one
[13:41] <Pie-rate> erUSUL: neither of them can show the OSD
[13:42] <Pie-rate> erUSUL: the little thing in the middle of the screen that displays the volume level when you adjust it with keyboard binds
[13:42] <brutus> bring2towels, thank you, i'll have a look
[13:42] <bring2towels> jlong, ive never had as few problems with a version of linux as with this one, so i guess we balance out?
[13:42] <Pie-rate> erUSUL: i have not been able to find a way to show it at all
[13:42] <dooglus> jlong: what if you only have one tab, at gmail.com - does it still crash?  reliably?
[13:42] <bring2towels> brutus, good luck, sorry i have not actually tried these, but i hear they are good
[13:42] <erUSUL> Pie-rate: that is something managed by the machine bios via acpi i think ...
[13:42] <netsurf3> hey peeps does anyone know if i can install ubuntu LTS alternate to a LVM which is already encrypted?
[13:43] <Pie-rate> erUSUL: highly doubt...
[13:43] <jlong> doog - I can't say that it would crash reliably that way, no
[13:44] <jlong> However, Firefox and Pidgin just shut down on me
[13:44] <dooglus> jlong: so maybe the 'gmail' crash you saw was really due to some flash in a different tab/
[13:44] <dooglus> jlong: I did used to have lots of flash-related crashes - but can't remember what stopped them.
[13:44] <jlong> I can say with 100% certainty that MSNBC's video player site will crash it reliably
[13:44] <ik-ook> hallo everybody
[13:45] <brutus> bring2towels, appreciate your help, wil try out scilab too
[13:45] <ik-ook> I'm new on ubuntu
[13:45] <dooglus> jlong: perhaps give a specific URL that crashes for you and see if it does for anyone else here?
[13:45] <dooglus> hi ik-ook
[13:45] <bring2towels> jlong, is it only crashes on flash pages, or other pages too? if gmail crashes then it is probably not flash related
[13:46] <jlong> If anyone wants to try video.msnbc.com... it just crashed out on me
[13:46] <Bodsda> Hi, i have two usb ports on the side of my screen, but when i plug in anything its not recognized and doesnt show up in 'lsusb'. How can i activate/use these ports?
[13:46] <ik-ook> I'm trying to install flash player 9 but I can't
[13:46] <tore> anyone made a .deb of fluxbox  1.1.0 yet?
[13:46] <dr_willis> Bodsda,  err.. there is a usb hub cable going from the monitor to the pc right?
[13:46] <jlong> bring - It does crash on Gmail, but nearly any page with flash also crashes.
[13:46] <zelexus> ik-ook: which architecture are you using?
[13:47] <Bodsda> dr_willis, huh?? no there is 2 built in usb slots on my screen
[13:47] <jrib> Bodsda: I have that setup.  Did you connect the usb from your monitor to your pc's usb?
[13:47] <jlong> I also ran 'firefox-2 -g' and got the dump, which shows libflashplayer.so or whatever
[13:47] <jlong> q
[13:47] <Bodsda> jrib, no
[13:47] <Bodsda> jrib, im not sure what you mean by that
[13:47] <dr_willis> Bodsda,  you just said yoiu have 2 usb ports on the side of the screen... what are your efering to then?
[13:47] <ik-ook> I've  an old dell latitude c400 and I've installed ubuntu just yesterday
[13:47] <jlong> Anybody have a chance to check out VIDEO.MSNBC.COM?
[13:47] <dr_willis> Bodsda,  it sure SHOUNDS like you are saying you got a mOnitor with a usb hub built in.
[13:48] <Bodsda> dr_willis, yes thats correct
[13:48] <jrib> Bodsda: hold on, let me check how my monitor is setup.  Do you have dell monitor btw?
[13:48] <Bodsda> jrib, yep :)
[13:48] <dr_willis> Bodsda,  then the monitor has to have some usb cable from  the monitor to the pc.. Unless its somehow usign the video cable as a usb cable..
[13:48] <djhash> Bodsda: underneat the screen there is a usb connector to connect from PC to monitor.. next to VGA connections.. check it out
[13:48] <Bodsda> jrib, dell 1907FP
[13:49] <dr_willis> all the monitor/hubs ive seen have a usb A/B cable from the base of the monitor to the pc.
[13:49] <jrib> Bodsda: yeah, I have the same model 17in.  The monitor came with a usb cable right?
[13:49] <jlong> i will BRB.. I need to restart this beast
[13:49] <zelexus> ik-ook: I was using AMD64, and I had some trouble installing flash. What I did was, I copied the libflashplayer.so to /home/'username'/.firefox/plugins. If it doesn't exist, then create it. Then restart firefox. That worked for me!
[13:49] <Bodsda> jrib, dunno, this one was kinda pinched from the nhs lol
[13:50] <Bodsda> jrib, i dont have a double ended usb cable unforyunately
[13:50] <djhash> Bodsda: look at your port connections on the monitor where the VGA cable is.. you'll see a USB B port there that needs to be connected to your PC.
[13:50] <Bodsda> unfortunately*
[13:50] <jrib> Bodsda: you have more usb ports in the back btw.  Let me take you a picture of the quick-setup so you can see what you need to do
[13:50] <ik-ook> I'll try thanks a lot  zelaxus
[13:51] <zelexus> ik-ook: no worries
[13:51] <djhash> Bodsda: not any double ended USB.. you need a USB A/B cable.
[13:51] <Bodsda> djhash, i dont have one of them either :) damn, cheers anyway & jrib, dr_willis -- cheers
[13:51] <dr_willis> djhash,  :) well thats 2 ends! :)
[13:52] <sinan> what's your favourite vnc client/server for ubuntu?
[13:52] <dr_willis> a normal usb a-b cable. that ya see used on printers/hubs/so forth. :)
[13:52] <dooglus> vnc4server
[13:52] <dr_willis> sinan,  depends on the task at hand. I tend to use vnc4server for my needs
[13:52] <stylianos> What's the path to the recycle bin?
[13:52] <bazhang> !trash
[13:53] <ik-ook> mmm: I've libflashplayer.so on my desktop but when I try to open it the pc say that I cannot open it
[13:53] <dr_willis> ik-ook,  why are you trying to open it?
[13:54] <zelexus> ik_ook: you should not open it. You should just move it. Do you have any terminal experince?
[13:54] <abibm_> ?
[13:54] <ik-ook> because I cannot use youtube
[13:54] <zelexus> yes
[13:55] <dr_willis> ik-ook,  you have used the 'normal' package manager method to install flash?
[13:55] <ik-ook> .tar.gz linux
[13:55] <jrib> Bodsda: one better: http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/1907FP/en/setup.htm#Connecting%20Your%20Monitor
[13:55] <Ninina> I'm thinking of trying Ubuntu and I'm wondering about a few things, like do any of the versions have benefits over others, I know that U is gnome and KU is KDE from the site but that is meaningless to me
[13:56] <Bodsda> haha, cheers jrib :)
[13:56] <ik-ook> is It the right one?
[13:56] <dr_willis> ik-ook,  you can install flash from the package manager tools. You do not need to manually download anything.
[13:56] <dr_willis> !flash
[13:56] <dr_willis> ik-ook,  installing the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package should install flash and other things you proberly want to maxamize your web experience.
[13:57] <zelexus> dr_willis: thank you. I was merely trying to help if he had a different archicture like AMD64. I assumed that was the problem at first. Sorry :) I'll let you handle this one :)
[13:57] <rocknzen> fd
[13:57] <Ninina> dr_willis: may I ask why they are called restricted, that makes them sound kinda legally grey or something
[13:57] <dr_willis> zelexus,  hes on 64bit? No idea then. :)  but im going to bed. 3rd shifter here.
[13:57] <kindofabuzz> dVs--, so did it work?
[13:58] <dr_willis> Ninina,  they are not legally as 'free' as the other 'free' as in GPL free.  stuff.
[13:58] <Bodsda> ik-ook, open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"
[13:58] <dr_willis> !free
[13:58] <zelexus> :)
[13:58] <rocknzen> j,
[13:58] <ik-ook> ok I'll try. thanks again
[13:58] <ik-ook> Bodsda, It is too difficult for me
[13:58] <dr_willis> Ninina,  they re restricted in what you can do with them - ie: you cant  do some things to the flash binaries, and so forth. normally
[13:58] <Bodsda> ik-ook, what is?
[13:58] <ik-ook> I'm a completely beginner
[13:58] <jlong> Somebody was saying something about copying libflashplayer.so to a directory in the home folder??
[13:59] <dr_willis> ik-ook,  you may want to go read that ubuntu-training-guide book then.
[13:59] <jlong> Or some file like that
[13:59] <Bodsda> ik-ook, thats fine, dont worry. Do you know what a terminal is?
[13:59] <dr_willis> !training | ik-ook
[13:59] <zelexus> jlong: yes, that was me
[13:59] <Debolaz> I eventually deinstalled flash because it made my browser so unstable.
[13:59] <Ninina> dr_willis: I see, I guess there isn't a better way to state it as non-free is also correct but confusing
[13:59] <Debolaz> I just use vmware for flash stuff now.
[13:59] <jlong> zelexus - I am thinking of trying that.. I looked for said file in said directory and it doesn't exist
[13:59] <jlong> the directory doesn't exist
[14:00] <wangor> hmm i'm trying to install tomcat5.5 on ubuntu but it doesn't work. Each time i do /etc/init.d/tomcat5.5 start it tells me it did start [ OK ] but in fact it does not. I've tried reading this file (/etc/init.d/tomcat5.5) but there's too much things there to figure out - any ideas what may go wrong ?
[14:00] <dr_willis> Ninina,  they are Free. :) as in no $$. But no Free as in GPL free..     They have 1 or more restrictions to their freedom.   that about summs it up
[14:00] <Bodsda> ik-ook, you stil here??
[14:00] <wangor> i've got ubuntu 7.10
[14:00] <ik-ook> ok guy, you give me a lot to read. I hope this help me.
[14:01] <ik-ook> ja I'm here
[14:01] <Ninina> Debolaz: so flash is unstable under linux? that must make the internet annoying?
[14:01] <zelexus> first of all create a "plugin" folder in your hidden mozilla directory. That is accomplished by doing the following in the terminal. mkdir plugins /home/'your-username'/.mozilla/firefox/
[14:01] <Bodsda> ik-ook, do you know what a terminal is?
[14:01] <ik-ook> I'm opening the web pages you suggested me
[14:01] <Bodsda> Ninina, its actually quite stable for most people
[14:01] <ik-ook> dell latitude c400
[14:01] <jlong> zelexus - following u
[14:01] <dr_willis> Ninina,  i find that FLASH makes the internet annoying.. :)
[14:01] <Debolaz> Ninina: The official restricted flash plugin is somewhat unstable yes. But that's due to crappy programming by Adobe, and the nature of closed source software.
[14:02] <dr_willis> Ninina,  to be honest - i dont have any flash issues that ive noticed on my linux machines.. Your Mileage may vary.
[14:02] <zelexus> jlong - have you downloaded the tar.gz package from adobes homepage?
[14:02] <dr_willis> If Flash was 'free' :) we could fix it!
[14:02] <ik-ook> that is a great community, compliment!
[14:02] <kindofabuzz> aye
[14:02] <kindofabuzz> fix gnash then =)
[14:02] <Bodsda> dr_willis, if it was foss yes
[14:02] <dooglus> dr_willis: can you try playing a youtube video fullscreen?
[14:02] <stylianos> What's the library to play encrypted dvds?
[14:02] <arvind_khadri> dr_willis, Ninina  use gnash then :)
[14:02] <jlong> zelexus - I had already installed the Adobe player from within synaptic
[14:03] <zelexus> ok.
[14:03] <kindofabuzz> gnash is just as bad as flash, well maybe better now
[14:03] <Bodsda> ik-ook, please answer me, do you know how to open a terminal?
[14:03] <zelexus> jlong - 2 secs
[14:03] <jlong> sure
[14:03] <dr_willis> dooglus,  some flash sites work full. some dont.. Im testing out Flash 10 right now..  :)
[14:03] <ik-ook> no, I don't know, sorry
[14:03] <arvind_khadri> Bodsda, applications->accessories->terminal
[14:03] <Ninina> dr_willis: I'm only thinking of half and half for now until I make sure what I need can be done under linux without a headache
[14:03] <Bodsda> thanks arvind_khadri lol
[14:03] <hateball> Is there a way to make "cp" display how long an operation has taken, and at what speed it has written data?
[14:04] <kindofabuzz> dr_willis, that's because some sites haven't updated to 10
[14:04] <Bodsda> ik-ook, applications->accessories->terminal  in the menus -- open one now
[14:04] <dr_willis> Ninina,  depends on the task i guess.. I find computers are often a headache.. reguardless of the os.
[14:04] <arvind_khadri> hateball, cp --verbose maybe
[14:04] <dr_willis> kindofabuzz,  the sites say  'for full screen update your flash' :) and im using the latest flash10 beta.. heh
[14:04] <zelexus> jlong: go to this page, and download the "tar.gz for linux version"      http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[14:04] <ik-ook> I try
[14:04] <Bodsda> hateball, not sure, but -v makes it easier to see if its still working
[14:05] <kindofabuzz> dr_willis, yeah they haven't coded there pages to use it yet so it just thinks you don't have flash
[14:05] <Debolaz> So far, the only two general purpose program I haven't been able to find a suitable open source replacement for though is Vmware.
[14:05] <jlong> zelexus - ok, got it
[14:05] <stylianos> What's the library to play encrypted dvds?
[14:05] <ik-ook> bodsda, and then?
[14:05] <jrib> !dvd | stylianos
[14:05] <hateball> Bodsda, arvind_khadri : -verbose only shows which file it's copying
[14:05] <dr_willis> kindofabuzz,  3 weeks ago cbs.com also broke flash under firefox under linux, and windows. :(
[14:05] <Bodsda> ik-ook, type   "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree"      without the quotes
[14:05] <zelexus> jlong - then unpack the folder to your desktop or whatever
[14:06] <arvind_khadri> hateball, then maybe you will have to script for the speed thing
[14:06] <hateball> arvind_khadri: Yeah I guess so :)
[14:06] <jlong> zelexus - done
[14:06] <zelexus> jlong - there should be two or three files in there. One of them is called "libflash.so". Something like that.
[14:06] <arvind_khadri> hateball, but in GUI it shows the rate at which it copies
[14:06] <ik-ook> ja
[14:06] <rever> Is there any way to enable Auto Update for Hardy. We will be installing about 30 PCs with Hardy soon and we would like to make sure all Security Updates are applied
[14:06] <dooglus> hateball: you could use rsync or some such instead of cp if you want progress information
[14:06] <jlong> zelexus - libflashplayer.so
[14:07] <zelexus> jlong - we need to copy that file to the directory you have just created
[14:07] <zelexus> jlong - yes
[14:07] <arvind_khadri> hateball, ya
[14:07] <Bodsda> ik-ook, done that?
[14:07] <jlong> zelexus - ok, standby
[14:07] <ik-ook> I've writte
[14:07] <Bodsda> ik-ook, pressed enter?
[14:07] <zelexus> jlong - I'll see if I can remember the command
[14:07] <ik-ook> done
[14:07] <semp> hello
[14:07] <semp> i am new to this
[14:07] <hateball> dooglus, arvind_khadri: Good idea with rsync. What I'm trying to do is test NFS performance, it seems messed up...
[14:07] <Bodsda> ik-ook, is it installing aything?
[14:07] <arvind_khadri> !hi | semp
[14:07] <Bodsda> welcome to ubuntu semp
[14:08] <ik-ook> maybe
[14:08] <semp> just installed ubuntu yesterday
[14:08] <ik-ook> something It"s appening
[14:08] <zelexus> jlong - cp /home/'your-username'/Desktop/libflashplayer.so /home/'your-username'/.mozilla/firefox/plugins
[14:08] <ndlovu> any idea where the firefox binary is located in ubuntu?
[14:08] <arvind_khadri> !ask | semp
[14:08] <eth01> tech support.
[14:08] <zelexus> jlong - something like that
[14:08] <Bodsda> semp, cool, anything we can help with?
[14:08] <eth01> what an odd nickname.
[14:08] <semp> i have an old computer, and it runs a LOT faster on ubuntu
[14:08] <eth01> maybe he works for optonline ;)
[14:08] <zelexus> jlong - remember to check your path
[14:08] <eth01> some lame american ISP.
[14:09] <jlong> zelexus - done
[14:09] <olmari> semp: yes, linux generally work way more efficiently than... other competitor.. =)
[14:09] <Bodsda> olmari, lol, no need for name calling :)
[14:09] <bartosz_>  how to send code 0 from telnet
[14:09] <ik-ook> bodsda, the pc is still thinking...
[14:09] <semp> yes, it does.  I may start using ubuntu as my 'primary' o/s !
[14:09] <ik-ook> yes
[14:09] <zelexus> jlong - then restart firefox and go to youtube and see if it works!
[14:09] <Bodsda> ik-ook, are you sure? did you enter your password and press enter when it prompted?
[14:09] <arvind_khadri> semp, do you have support question??
[14:10] <Bodsda> !yay | semp
[14:10] <zelexus> jlong - *fingers crossed*
[14:10] <bartosz_>  how to send code 0 from telnet
[14:10] <Ninina> gah I can't really see a difference between Kubuntu and Ubuntu but my perfectionist side is telling me one is better then the other and I have to pick that one T_T
[14:10] <jlong> zelexus - restarting now, standby
[14:10] <ik-ook> flash plugin installed
[14:10] <semp> yes actually.   How do i install all those fancy 'desktop animations' that i see all over the place ... something called compfiz i think ?
[14:11] <Bodsda> ik-ook, reopen your web browser and you should be able to use flash sites eg youtube
[14:11] <olmari> Ninina: Run gnome odd weeks and kde even :D
[14:11] <Bodsda> !compiz | semp
[14:11] <arvind_khadri> !compiz > semp
[14:11] <ik-ook> now I try to open youtube
[14:11] <arvind_khadri> !ccsm > semp
[14:11] <nightcrawla> tup fellas
[14:11] <nightcrawla> whats up**
[14:11] <jlong> zelexus - my usual test site is video.msnbc.com, seems to be working now, but it's fooled me before
[14:11] <ik-ook> great!!
[14:11] <arvind_khadri> !ccsm > semp
[14:11] <jlong> zelexus - thanks for the help, hopefully this makes it a little more bearable
[14:11] <ik-ook> it works!!
[14:12] <Bodsda> !-compi
[14:12] <Bodsda> !-compiz
[14:12] <nightcrawla> what are you guys trying to get to work
[14:12] <ik-ook> thank you very much
[14:12] <Bodsda> your welcome ik-ook
[14:12] <zelexus> jlong - hehe, ok. At least that is how I got it to work. The reason was because of the architecture, for me at least. Hope it works and I'm glad I could help.
[14:12] <zelexus> jlong - see ya around! :D
[14:12] <monostone> I somehow managed to mess up the keymappings for my logitech USB G11 keyboard media keys. Xorg.0.log is beggining to report a "(II) Unreported Prefix0 scancode: 0x22" message, i investigated a bit and saw that the hex codes the messages print are the keydown scancode of the media keys as detected by running "showkey -s". BUT xev does NOT detect the media keys anymore, on the other hand in gnome keyboard shortcuts the keys ARE dete
[14:12] <monostone> cted, also running "lshal -m" does detect the keysym for all the media keys. Media players like Rythymbox continue to have the media keys working, but totem has lost them. Any pointers as to what the problem is? could this be a kernel keymap issue? or since the message appears in my Xorg.0.log, is it a X issue?
[14:12] <Bodsda> nightcrawla, the universe, unfortunately religeous nut cases screwed it up millenia ago - so much documentation to write now
[14:12] <jlong> zelexus - saw that you said you were on AMD.. i'm on Intel pentium D
[14:12] <jlong> zelexus - certainly.  thanks again
[14:13] <ik-ook> so, let see.
[14:13] <zelexus> jlong - hmm, maybe it works anyway. Don't know
[14:13] <ik-ook> bye
[14:13] <Bodsda> bye
[14:13] <ik-ook> I'm little busy now
[14:13] <arvind_khadri> Bodsda, :D
[14:13] <bartosz_>  how to send code 0 from telnet
[14:13] <Bodsda> :)
[14:13] <bartosz_> 0 byte code
[14:13] <arvind_khadri> !telnet | bartosz_
[14:14] <bartosz_> its just for testing purposes
[14:15] <absence> hi! when i run vbeprobe from grub, i get a long list of vesa graphical modes, but when i add vga=ask to the kernel, all i get is a few text modes, no vesa stuff. do i have to add something else to the kernel?
[14:15] <Ninina> ugg so much cryptic text is this what linux is like all the time?
[14:15] <jlong> haha
[14:15] <Bodsda> Ninina, this is quite quiet for #ubuntu
[14:15] <ndlovu> I should have firefox 2.0.19 (ubuntu package) and 3.0.1 (mozilla download) installed. Any idea how I would specify to run the old version?
[14:16] <jlong> ndlovu - run 'firefox-2'
[14:16] <Ninina> T_T this is not helping my confidence in the least
[14:16] <ndlovu> jlong, firefox-2: command not found
[14:17] <Bodsda> Ninina, when all the yanks wake up it gets hectic -- but in general things arent that complicated.
[14:17] <morningwalker> where do i find virtual box after installation?
[14:17] <chumley> I'd like to set up a backup mail server. If the primary mail server is down, I'd like this system to store the mail until the primary comes back up. I did a install yesterday and selected "Internet with smarthost" during the install. Is that the best selection for this?
[14:17]  * usser hehe good morning
[14:17] <jlong> ndlovu - you sure it's installed?
[14:17] <Bodsda> ndlovu, type    firefox  then press tab twice, this should show you all the firefox versions/options
[14:17] <morningwalker> where do i find virtualbox after installation??
[14:17] <jrib> Ninina: you see commands here because it's easier to tell someone a command over irc than to tell them where to click
[14:17] <Bodsda> morningwalker, apps--> system tools
[14:18] <ndlovu> Bodsda, jlong I only get firefox as a command
[14:18] <Ninina> what country is Ubuntu's restricted extras legality?
[14:18] <arvind_khadri> jlong, its just firefox
[14:18] <morningwalker> not there!!
[14:18] <Bodsda> ndlovu, type firefox --version
[14:18] <jlong> he said he wanted to specify firefox version 2, though
[14:18] <jrib> Ninina: you need to ask your lawyer for legal advice
[14:18] <Bodsda> morningwalker, what isnt?
[14:18] <jlong> I can launch firefox-2 from terminal
[14:18] <ndlovu> Bodsda, it returns <IP_ADDRESS>
[14:18] <morningwalker> virtualbox in system tools
[14:18] <Bodsda> Ninina, what country are you in?
[14:19] <Bodsda> ndlovu, then the command 'firefox' runs firefox 2
[14:19] <morningwalker> just NTFS configuration tools
[14:19] <Bodsda> ndlovu, you dont have ff3
[14:19] <ndlovu> Bodsda, but if I type firefox from the commandline, then version 3 opens
[14:19] <Ninina> jrib:if that is the case I guess I'll have to pass on Ubuntu because I cannot afford legal advice
[14:19] <jlong> I would get rid of Version 3
[14:19] <soundray> Ninina: it's not an issue of jurisdiction. "Restricted" parts of ubuntu are not covered by OSI compliant licences
[14:19] <Bodsda> ndlovu, ditch ff3
[14:19] <Ninina> Bodsda: The US unfortunately
[14:19] <Sobaka> Hello. I have installed ubuntu 8.04.1 on my notebook Toshiba p300d. It has a Marvell Yukon 88e8040T network card. But this network card doesn't work, I have now no network connection. On the internet I found several solutions, but none of them works because. Currently I have the 2.6.24-19-generic kernel. Is there a place where I can get a newer kernel as in where this bug is fixed?
[14:19] <jrib> Ninina: ok?  Does it help you if a random stranger on irc tells you it's legal?
[14:20] <Bodsda> Ninina, you should be okay
[14:20] <starenka> morningwalker: just type virtualbox into konsole
[14:20] <jlong> I don't see why there would be legal issues...
[14:20] <kindofabuzz> someone test this for me: go anywhere with a combo box or https://www.cs.tcd.ie/Jeremy.Jones/counter/comboBox/comboBoxTest.htm , selet a box and while the dropdown is down, hit print scren
[14:20] <kindofabuzz> scren
[14:20] <Ninina> jrib:no but they can't just offer things that are illegal in the country's where they have their business headquarters either or they'd get shut down
[14:20] <kindofabuzz> screen*
[14:21] <jrib> Ninina: there are mirrors all over the world
[14:21] <starenka> Sobaka: you can get 2.6.24-21 in pre-released updates repository. check synaptic for adding the repo. running the kernel right now
[14:21] <soundray> Ninina: Ubuntu does not offer illegal software.
[14:21] <usser> Sobaka, you may try to enable hardy-proposed
[14:21] <Ninina> they offer VLC
[14:21] <IdleOne> !ot
[14:21] <soundray> Ninina: VLC is not illegal
[14:22] <Sobaka> Synaptic doesn't work because i have no internet connection, can I download the package somewhere?
[14:22] <IdleOne> Sobaka: packages.ubuntu.com
[14:22] <Sobaka> And then where?
[14:22] <IdleOne> look for the package you need
[14:22] <silence__> hi all
[14:24] <morningwalker> sudo apt-get install virtualbox-ose
[14:24] <morningwalker> i just noticed that i dont have virtualbox on my system
[14:24] <morningwalker> ubuntu partition alone is 60gig
[14:24] <soundray> !medibuntu > Ninina
[14:24] <soundray> !dvd > Ninina
[14:24] <morningwalker> i can do more with this
[14:27] <jlong> <-- going afk.  private message me if you need anything
[14:28] <tdn> How do I get on with this problem: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/43858 I cannot the drivers for my Ralink USB Wireless network adaptor to work properly. I suspect a bug in the kernel image provided by Ubuntu mirrors. Please help me on this.
[14:28] <Sobaka> Where can I find this kernel 2.6.24-21 at packages.ubuntu.com? Under hardy or hardy-backports?
[14:29] <ioops> hi
[14:30] <erUSUL> Sobaka: proposed i think
[14:30] <ioops> soundray: you can help me please, I try to reinstall the linux-kernel-image by aptitute reinstall, and it seem it regenerate the initramfs but after words, at the new boot the initramfs prompt still again
[14:31] <Sobaka> I see only hardy (8.04LTS), hardy-updates, hardy-backports
[14:31] <erUSUL> Sobaka: not sure if proposed is offered on that web though. proposed is for testing
[14:31] <erUSUL> Sobaka: not for general use
[14:31] <_paneb> is there a (gtk) XML editor which automatically closes tags?
[14:32] <Merther> anyone know a good video conversion utility?  I'm trying to convert dvd files into mp4.
[14:33] <stddoubt> Does anyone know a multiple panels file manager?
[14:33] <k3rnelpanic> Would anyone know the command to clean up /var/cache/apt/archive after an upgrade?
[14:33] <jrib> k3rnelpanic: apt-get clean
[14:33] <k3rnelpanic> ty
[14:33] <erUSUL> Merther: ffmpeg or mencoder ? or you want a gui ? virtualdub ? dvdrip?
[14:34] <Merther> gui preferably, Thanks I'll check those ones out.
[14:34] <dashavoo> Merther, I strongly recommend avidemux
[14:34] <dashavoo> Merther, avidemux is gui
[14:34] <Merther> great, thanks
[14:35] <tamer> is it safe to upgrade to 8.10 now ?
[14:35] <arvind_khadri> tamer, not yet
[14:35] <kane77> can anyone help me with backup? I would like to back up /home of my laptop (create compressed tar of it) and send it over to desktop using ssh, how do I do that?
[14:35] <arvind_khadri> tamer, wait for a month more...
[14:35] <tamer> ok thanks
[14:36] <k3rnelpanic> jrib: ok that cleaned it up a bit but ever since i downloaded the upgrades my hd is still more used up then before. anything else i could do?
[14:36] <curaloucura> hello everybody. I want to remove some queue mails, I got a list of file names using mailq but I don't know how to remove them all
[14:36] <starenka> Sobaka: reed pm plz
[14:36] <curaloucura> I am using this command: mailq -qI Deferred|cut -f1 -d' '
[14:36] <tamer> but what can happen wrong if i update to 8.10 now ?
[14:36] <kane77> where is thrash in hardy? I tried .Trash, but it's not there..
[14:36] <curaloucura> how can I iterate over all filenames and remove them?
[14:37] <jrib> k3rnelpanic: use Accessories -> Disk usage analyzer   to see what is taking up all the space
[14:37] <erUSUL> curaloucura: what does that commands output? file paths ?
[14:37] <legend2440> !trash |  kane77
[14:37] <erUSUL> curaloucura: use xargs
[14:37] <kane77> legend2440, thank you..
[14:38] <usser> kane77, use sshfs to mount remote directory
[14:39] <curaloucura> erUSUL: sounds like what I want, thanks  ;)
[14:39] <soundray> ioops: I'm out of ideas at the moment, sorry
[14:39] <usser> kane77, then tar -pczf name_of_your_archive.tar.gz /home
[14:39] <usser> kane77, then just mv name_of_your_archive.tar.gz /path/to/sshfsmount
[14:39] <Guest89363> hy
[14:40] <k3rnelpanic> jrib: ok thanks
[14:40] <kane77> usser, the problem is I wouldn't have enough space to create archive in my /home on laptop.. anyway I found something on the internet..
[14:41] <dashavoo> kane77, rather than bothering to mount the ssh connection, you could also use scp (secure copy), "scp archive.tar.gz username@sshserver:/directory/on/server"
[14:41] <usser> kane77, oh you can sshfs-mount it cd to where u mounted and do the tar command it'll create an archive on the remote directory
[14:42] <kane77> dashavoo, usser thank you, I will try it and see..
[14:44] <Aquahallic> Mornin' folks
[14:46] <pakus> Hiya, someone can help me with a motd question?
[14:46] <Kartagis> !eggdrop
[14:46] <Aquahallic> was looking at a bug that's in evolution and it shows a proposed patch on bugzilla... http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525555... do I need to install this patch or has it been incorporated into a new build that I can d'load????
[14:46] <Kartagis> !bot
[14:47] <jrib> Kartagis: do you have a question?
[14:47] <Kartagis> jrib> yes
[14:47] <soundray> pakus: it's hard to tell unless you ask it
[14:47] <Kartagis> jrib> I apt-get install'd eggdrop, but it is failing to locate it's modules
[14:48] <jrib> Kartagis: pastebin the error and your command
[14:48] <pakus> My motd has disappeared, I've got motd, motd.tail on /etc. But when i log in it isn't shown
[14:48] <k3rnelpanic> jrib: much better now thanks for the help
[14:48] <jrib> k3rnelpanic: no problem
[14:49] <pakus> I've run smbldap-configure script before I lost it...
[14:49] <Kartagis> jrib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/43631/
[14:49] <Aquahallic> can someone tell me how I'd go about installing a patch that's on bugzilla?
[14:49] <jrib> Kartagis: what does 'which eggdrop' return?
[14:50] <soundray> pakus: motd is generated from /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh . Do you have this file?
[14:50] <erUSUL> Aquahallic: download it and use the "patch" command
[14:50] <Kartagis> jrib> /usr/bin/eggdrop
[14:50] <Aquahallic> do I patch source and then have to re-compile it?
[14:50] <erUSUL> Aquahallic: what type of patch for what software?
[14:50] <pakus> soundray: Yes, and It create /etc/motd on every reboot
[14:50] <Kartagis> !patch | Aquahallic
[14:50] <erUSUL> Aquahallic: yep patch recompile
[14:50] <jrib> Kartagis: why is it trying to load modules in your home?
[14:50] <Aquahallic> I can post the link
[14:51] <Aquahallic> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=525555
[14:51] <MU> Salve
[14:51] <Kartagis> jrib> I don't know
[14:51] <soundray> pakus: so you haven't actually lost it -- it's just not being displayed
[14:51] <pakus> soundray: Exactly, ws i told :-P
[14:52] <jrib> Kartagis: try asking #eggdrop.  I suspect it's an issue with the .conf but I've never used eggdrop
[14:52] <MU> Olaa
[14:52] <MU> Tem alguem ai
[14:52] <jrib> !pt | MU
[14:52] <erUSUL> !pt  | MU
[14:52] <Aquahallic> erUSUL: may I PM you for a minute?
[14:52] <pakus> soundray: I found the problem
[14:53] <erUSUL> Aquahallic: yes
[14:53] <pakus> soundray: sshd_config was modified and PrintMotd was set to "no"
[14:53] <pakus> Thanls
[14:53] <pakus> thanks
[14:53] <pakus> by
[14:53] <ksbalaji> after installing envyNG my desktop looks great. Now after every update with adept etc., I have to invoke envyNG installer to get back my new look. Is it normal? Or is there a procedure I am missing? - like adding another repository which will take care of existing installations?
[14:55] <MU> tem algun brasileiroo ???
[14:55] <soundray> ksbalaji: no, this is a known limitation of envyng. You only have to run the installer after kernel upgrades, though.
[14:55] <jrib> MU: /join #ubuntu-br
[14:55] <Jet_Li> Pessoal, alguém já configurou 2 servidores dhcp na mesma rede?
[14:56] <jrib> !pt | Jet_Li
[14:56] <svh> dose linux  have any programs for making pro---- slide shows that work
[14:56] <ksbalaji> soundray, What? what do you mean by kernel upgrades? I just click full upgrade almost alternate days and I have to install envyNG again!
[14:57] <brutus> how to i grep for the expression '-t' ?
[14:57] <soundray> brutus: grep -- -t files
[14:58] <arvind_k> svh, open office
[14:58] <spree> ksbalaji envyng is broken in Hardy. Stop trying to use it.
[14:58] <soundray> ksbalaji: it just so happened that there was a kernel package among those updated each time. Is
[14:58] <ksbalaji> and soundray , when does kernel upgrade take place please?
[14:58] <brutus> soundray, thanks
[14:58] <mdmkolbe> How do I figure out what (uninstalled) package contains the file lastpage.sty?
[14:58] <jrib> mdmkolbe: you can use packages.ubuntu.com or apt-file
[14:58] <svh> thank you
[14:58] <arvind_k> ksbalaji, as they need to make the kernel better and patch it with new drivers and stuffs
[14:59] <soundray> mdmkolbe: "apt-file search lastpage.sty" spits out texlive-latex-extra and texlive-latex-recommended
[14:59] <spree> ksbalaji I'm having a very similar problem. I'm using a version of the nvidia proprietary drivers that is newer than the source tree and every time there's a kernel update i have to recompile the drivers. I do it before i reboot after a kernel upgrade now to make it all go easier.
[14:59] <ksbalaji> spree, My desktop started to look great after a year of ubuntu. Hey arvind_k !!! are you the same arv.khadri who recommended envyNG for me? Thankssssssssssssss!
[14:59] <spree> ksbalaji I'm just used to it at this point
[15:00] <arvind_k> ksbalaji, yeah i am the same :)
[15:00] <mdmkolbe> thx soundray and jrib
[15:00] <jessid> Hello. I an needing a very small linux distribution, and offcourse the firs one that comes to my mind is ubuntu, but i do not want to install thousands of packages that i dont need to uninstall them after that. does ubuntu has any command line option to start the live cd to make a simpler installation? I am needing this distro to load in max 20 seconds... some idea??? thanks
[15:00] <spree> jessid well the first one SHOULDN'T be ubuntu that comes to mind. Ubuntu is one of the largest distributions
[15:01] <qinking> 有好心的哥们帮个心
[15:01] <qinking> 忙