[12:06] <bdmurray> saispo: sorry to be a bother but could you add those as attachments?  it is easier to read
[12:06] <saispo> ok
[12:06] <saispo> no problem
[12:07] <pochu_> Good night bugfighters!
[12:09] <saispo> bdmurray: all done
[12:09] <saispo> three files: dmesg, lspci, dmidecode
[12:11] <bdmurray> saispo: great, looking now
[12:11] <saispo> thanks
[12:12] <saispo> but i meet some nice enhancements in gutsy with a 2.6.22, such as brightness and some other things :)
[12:12] <bdmurray> good, we hope so
[12:13] <nixternal> bdmurray: what is the proper way of using bughelper with a clue file?
[12:14] <bdmurray> nixternal: what do you mean exactly? the proper theory or the proper way to really use it?
[12:15] <nixternal> I want to run bughelper against kdepim using a custom clue file
[12:15] <bdmurray> I take it you have made the clue file already?
[12:15] <nixternal> yes
[12:15] <bdmurray> if so './bughelper -p kdepim' or 'bughelper -p kdepim' depending on path stuff
[12:15] <nixternal> gotcha, thanks
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #119423 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Suspend to RAM (Sleeping) not working on DELL Latitude D520" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119423
[12:18] <saispo> bdmurray: it's time to go to bed for me, thanks for your help, will wait about a bugfix for g-p-m and the kernel :)
[12:18] <saispo> bye
[12:18] <saispo> bdmurray: if you want some test, no problem
[12:18] <bdmurray> saispo: okay, thank you
[12:26] <ubotu> New bug: #119424 in Ubuntu "[Gutsy]  libflashsupport is not installable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119424
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119426 in Ubuntu "Doing ifdown then ifup on ra0 produces: kernel BUG at include/linux/timer.h:82!" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119426
[12:51] <bdmurray> nixternal: did your clue file work out for you?
[12:51] <nixternal> nope
[12:52] <nixternal> it keeps attaching to ~/.bughelper/blah
[12:52] <nixternal> and it doesn't spit out anything
[12:52] <bdmurray> hunh, where did you put the clue file?
[12:53] <nixternal> in that bug directory with the rest of them
[12:54] <nixternal> ahh, now I am getting something
[12:54] <bdmurray> do you have bughelper-data checked out?
[12:54] <nixternal> yup
[12:54] <bdmurray> and did you modify the kdepim one in there?
[12:55] <nixternal> yes
[12:56] <bdmurray> that should work then
[01:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119428 in vcf (universe) "Merge vcf-0.0.5 from debian unstable" [Wishlist,In progress]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119428
[01:04] <crimsun> is Simon having problems on Freenode with a rogue?
[01:05] <crimsun> (not sure why he'd want to kill his own client)
[01:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119429 in secure-delete (universe) "Peter Gutmann's paper licensing info missing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119429
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119386 in clamav (universe) "Remote Attack in RAR Files and Insecure Temporary Files Creation" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119386
[01:42] <Jell1> hi
[01:43] <Jell1> I have a pb. And I'd like to know if I should send a bug report, and about what. Right place?
[01:43] <crimsun> would you describe your problem more verbosely, please?
[01:44] <Jell1> sure :)   :
[01:51] <ubotu> New bug: #119430 in Ubuntu "Gutsy RealPlayer 10 Gold doesn't install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119430
[01:51] <Jell1> a week ago I emptied my trash bin via the trash applet (right clic __> empty). It made me lose 230Go of data, which was the content of an external disk. I first thought I should drink less. But I finally posted on forums, and because I coudn't fond any explanation, I decided to reinstall the system (just kept /home), and see if it would happen again. At first, everything was fine, but today, by luck I noticed a huge amount of files i
[01:54] <Jell1> (I've discussed about it at #ubuntu ; but nobody seems to have seen this before)
[01:54] <Jell1> (oh sorry: i'm on Feisty. latest kernel from official repo.)
[01:55] <bdmurray> Jell1: what happened today? you got truncated a bit
[02:00] <Jell1> bdmurray: today? well I was just wondering around, downloading stuffs, nothing special, then I just put my cursor over the trash applet and noticed the huge amount of files, then I tried to open the trash-applet, but it wouldn't (damn should have said that earlier!), so I tried to open /home, and finally noticed that Nautilus was freezed. So I launch a: killall nautilus. But that didn't help, Nautilus stayed freezed. The rest of the
[02:01] <ubotu> New bug: #119432 in swfdec0.4 (universe) "swf-player linked with swfdec 0.3 instead of 0.4.3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119432
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119431 in thunderbird (main) "wrong Unread and Total numbers" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119431
[02:16] <Jell1> Do you believe I should report a bug about the trash-applet?
[02:20] <bdmurray> Have you tried https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ ? They know a lot.
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119433 in totem (main) "When I play a video, I get a green screen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119433
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119434 in totem (main) "When I play a video, I get a green screen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119434
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119435 in kdebase (main) "Kate chrashes when saving a session" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119435
[02:30] <ubotu> New bug: #119436 in bluez-utils (main) "Bluetooth mouse wheel not working after bluetooth updates" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119436
[02:40] <Jell1> bdmurray: I'll have a try thanks.
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119438 in linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22 (main) "ipw3945 AP association terribly slow in 2.6.22" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119438
[03:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119439 in linux-meta (main) "Impossible to compile headers related software (gutsy)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119439
[03:32] <ubotu> New bug: #119440 in nautilus (main) "I can't rename files or folders in Nautilus consistently" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119440
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119441 in thunderbird (main) "enhance thunderbird to include option to forward original msg in reply" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119441
[04:16] <ubotu> New bug: #119442 in Ubuntu "Openoffice Impress report an error after slideshow" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119442
[04:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119445 in xorg (main) "[Testing of apport hook] " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119445
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119448 in trashapplet (main) "All system files appear in trash applet" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119448
[04:45] <ubotu> New bug: #119450 in Ubuntu "[Testing of apport hook] " [Undecided,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119450
[05:06] <ubotu> New bug: #119452 in Ubuntu "speedstep always steps both cores" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119452
[05:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119453 in Ubuntu "Banter - New telepathy based IM/VOIP client" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119453
[05:44] <Hobbsee> kde bug 140528
[05:44] <ubotu> KDE bug 140528 in Audio/Video Plugin "Video palette conversion error with pwc webcam" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]  http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=140528
[05:45] <Hobbsee> Launchpad bug 89606
[05:45] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 89606 in kdenetwork "kopete does not recognize logitech usb webcam" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89606
[05:51] <bdmurray> Hobbsee: what is up with you and that bug?
[05:52] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: sorry?
[05:52] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: it's fixed, i was speaking to mattr last night, and dealt with email today
[05:52] <Hobbsee> er, okay, earlier this morning
[05:52] <Hobbsee> it's just easier to dump bugs in here and get the URL
[05:52] <bdmurray> okay, it's just the second time I have seen you say bug 89606
[05:52] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 89606 in kdenetwork "kopete does not recognize logitech usb webcam" [Undecided,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/89606
[05:52] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: ther'es been lots of kubuntu bug work going on :)
[05:53] <bdmurray> Hobbsee: Do you use Firefox?
[05:53] <Hobbsee> yes
[05:53] <bdmurray> try making a quick search for a bug
[05:53] <Hobbsee> i have considered that
[05:53] <Hobbsee> i already do for sources, and for bugs on a package
[05:53] <Hobbsee> it's kde bugs, debian bugs, etc
[05:54] <bdmurray> yeah I have one called 'ubug' that does an lp search for a bug
[05:54] <bdmurray> but it is fun to abuse ubotu
[05:54] <Hobbsee> hehe true that
[05:54] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: as long as you avoid the mad dutchman, before he attempts to break you
[05:55] <bdmurray> lost me with mad dutchman for a minute.  I am hard to break.
[05:56] <Hobbsee> bdmurray: seveas
[05:56] <Hobbsee> he was the one attempting to throw me in the pool, and break my wrist in the process
[05:59] <persia> Is there a bug tag for SRU candidates?
[06:01] <bdmurray> persia: not a tag speficically
[06:01] <bdmurray> boy I goobered that one
[06:02] <bdmurray> actually, there are some tags during the SRU process
[06:02] <bdmurray> verification-needed and verification-done
[06:03] <persia> bdmurray: What do you think of "Needs-SRU", or some such?  I'd like to make it easy for people to find these if they are interested.
[06:03] <Hobbsee> a search for SRU tends to suffice
[06:03] <Hobbsee> and they're usually already subscribed to u-u-s anyway
[06:03] <persia> Hobbsee: Not for random bugs that got closed in a newer version, and I'm trying to reduce the U-U-S bugs that don't actually need sponsorship right now.
[06:04] <Hobbsee> woo :)
[06:04] <bdmurray> persia: I'm lost about what state these bugs are in.
[06:06] <persia> bdmurray: Essentially, there are a (potentially large) number of bugs that are fixed in the current development environment that are not fixed in one or more of our supported releases.  It might be interesting to have a means by which those wishing to fix this could easily search for bugs that might be appropriate for SRU.
[06:06] <persia> On the other hand, perhaps the right way to do this is with nominations.
[06:07] <bdmurray> persia: aren't those backports though not SRUs?
[06:08] <bdmurray> "Stable release updates will, in general, only be issued in order to fix high-impact bugs."
[06:08] <persia> bdmurray: Depends on the bug.  The one that caused me to ask was bug 86212, for which dapper is clearly broken.
[06:08] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 86212 in smokeping "/etc/init.d/smokeping does not create /var/run/smokeping" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/86212
[06:08] <persia> In this case, smokeping only works if the user has not rebooted since installation.
[06:09] <Hobbsee> i suspect the problem exists more in people actually having the will to shove the bugs thru the SRU process - rather than having trouble finding them.
[06:10] <persia> Hobbsee: I agree with you, but as Ubuntu grows, I imagine there being a greater interest in SRUs.
[06:10] <bdmurray> persia: I understand what you are getting at but I don't think this would be a "high impact" bug.  I think this is something that might need backporting.
[06:11] <persia> bdmurray: OK.  Based on that, I'm thinking that a tag would likely lead to abuse, and nominations (with the permission restrictions) are probably better.  Thanks a lot for helping me to understand.
[06:11] <Hobbsee> http://people.ubuntu-in.org/~carthik/bugstats/
[06:11] <Hobbsee> wow
[06:11] <bdmurray> bugstats are looking hot
[06:12] <persia> Hurrah!  Nice work everyone.
[06:12] <Hobbsee> maybe the kde evening bugtriage is doing a fair bit
[06:13] <bdmurray> I'm happy you can't really tell Tribe 1 came out
[06:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119454 in Ubuntu "debhelper script creates prerm script that causes daemon removal to be impossible" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119454
[06:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119455 in Ubuntu "feisty fawn flle browser search doesnt remember previous search results" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119455
[07:18] <Admiral_Chicago> evening everyone...
[07:19] <Hobbsee> hi Admiral_Chicago!
[07:20] <Admiral_Chicago> hey there Hobbsee!
[07:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119457 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "[gutsy]  no LFE in hda-intel + sigmatel stac9200" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119457
[07:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119459 in atftp (universe) "atftpd doesn't build from source" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119459
[07:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119460 in gtk2hs (universe) "mozembed pygtk segfault in everything but eclipse." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119460
[08:15] <ubotu> New bug: #8 in rosetta "Translator forums/means of communication" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/8
[08:19] <persia> bug number 8!  It's a new low.  Someone please make a patch for bug 115430 :)
[08:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 115430 in ubuntu-bots "ubotu should detect when new bugs are "also affects"" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/115430
[08:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119463 in Ubuntu "Can't burn CD's; freezes OS." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119463
[08:24] <Admiral_Chicago> Hobbsee: perhaps you can help me on this one. bug 119453
[08:24] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119453 in Ubuntu "Banter - New telepathy based IM/VOIP client" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119453
[08:24] <Admiral_Chicago> its not in the archives afaik....
[08:24] <Admiral_Chicago> so what would be the correct tag. "upgrade"
[08:24] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm thinking...
[08:25] <Admiral_Chicago> ah needs-packaging might also work....
[08:26] <persia> Admiral_Chicago: Indeed.  "Needs-packaging" is preferred.
[08:26] <Hobbsee> needs-packaging is correct
[08:28] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks a lot persia % Hobbsee
[08:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119464 in ardour (universe) "Ardour could not connect to JACK" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119464
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119465 in Ubuntu "ati radeon cards won't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119465
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119466 in Ubuntu "kprinter crashes right after start" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119466
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #119468 in Ubuntu "et131x,  ethernet card" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119468
[09:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119469 in firefox-launchpad-plugin (universe) "all of the previous bugs, plus malformed line 40" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119469
[09:19] <Admiral_Chicago> anyone want to reject bug 119433 ... I would but I want to be nice...
[09:19] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119433 in totem "When I play a video, I get a green screen" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119433
[09:20] <DarkMageZ> ouch
[09:20] <Burgundavia> Admiral_Chicago: I will do it
[09:21] <Admiral_Chicago> hint: automatix
[09:22] <persia> Admiral_Chicago: Rejection of bugs caused by unofficial signfiicant changes (like custom CD builds, automatix, etc.) are best rejected.  There might be something at the root of it, but it's really hard to figure out what, and likely not worth it, as it may not need to be fixed in Ubuntu (or Kubuntu, etc.).
[09:22] <Burgundavia> I just rejected it
[09:23] <Burgundavia> told him exactly that and told him to download stock 7.04 and try it
[09:23] <Admiral_Chicago> Burgundavia: thanks cory
[09:23] <Burgundavia> corey, actually :)
[09:25] <Admiral_Chicago> opps
[09:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119470 in texlive-base (main) "texlive-latex-recommended 2007-9 does not install .sty-files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119470
[09:26] <Admiral_Chicago> persia: yes i know. i just have a very strong dislike for Automatix and its bugs...which causes me to be nasty. :(
[09:27] <persia> Admiral_Chicago: Ah.  My apologies: I hadn't realised you had asked for another rejector as an exercise in self-control :)
[09:29] <Admiral_Chicago> yea...i know my limits...
[09:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119471 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.22 (restricted) "2.6.20-16-generic cannot modprobe nvidia-glx" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119471
[09:50] <ubotu> New bug: #118942 in speex (main) "wrong options" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/118942
[10:01] <ubotu> New bug: #119472 in figlet (multiverse) "figlet doesn't interpret JIS  0201X characters" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119472
[10:37] <Admiral_Chicago> launcpad is down...
[10:39] <crimsun> hooray, no bugs!
[10:39] <crimsun> "there are no bugs in Ubuntu, there are no bugs in Ubuntu, ..."
[10:40] <persia> There are *secret* bugs, you're just not allowed to look at them :P
[10:40] <crimsun> like I said, "there are no bugs in Ubuntu, there are no bugs in Ubuntu, ..."
[10:41] <coNP> there is an ifinite sequence of no bugs in Ubuntu
[10:41] <Admiral_Chicago> yay. you fixed them all crimsun
[10:58] <crimsun> Admiral_Chicago: I know, I rock ponies.
[11:01] <coNP> yeah, the sleeper has awaken
[11:01] <coNP> happy bughunting :)
[11:45] <ubotu> New bug: #119507 in screem (main) "Using cache for local files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119507
[11:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119508 in Ubuntu "Problem with Listen Ports with CUPS" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119508
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119509 in apache2 (main) "httpd.conf not shipped" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119509
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #119510 in Ubuntu "wlan not working, sond not working M100 Toshiba laptop" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119510
[12:16] <ubotu> New bug: #119511 in Ubuntu "ASUS F3S laptop nvidia GeForce 8400M G fails to start x" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119511
[12:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119512 in Ubuntu "pleasy-sync purple-plugin-pack from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119512
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119514 in Ubuntu "Wrong colours when taking snapshots with acer 5633 WLMi and camorama" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119514
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119515 in kdesdk (main) "kcachegrind-converters package broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119515
[12:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119516 in libqt-ruby-qt4 (universe) "Please remove libqt-ruby-qt4 from the Ubuntu archives" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119516
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119518 in Ubuntu "evolution setup timezome selector sillyness" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119518
[01:00] <RainCT> Hi
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #119520 in Ubuntu "Locked out from Kubuntu install" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119520
[01:01] <RainCT> what's the "install and remove applications" progam called?
[01:03] <persia> RainCT: Depends whether it's Ubuntu (gnome-app-install) or Kubuntu (adept-installer)  I don't know what Xubuntu uses.
[01:03] <RainCT> persia: thanks
[01:06] <ubotu> New bug: #119519 in laptop-mode-tools (main) "please merge laptop-mode-tools 1.34-1 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119519
[01:10] <ubotu> New bug: #119521 in Ubuntu "r/w error on sony ericsson w880i" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119521
[01:10] <crimsun> Xubuntu uses Synaptic directly.
[01:13] <persia> crimsun: Thanks.
[01:14] <crimsun> np
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119522 in gimp (main) "GIMP Could not load PNG defaults" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119522
[01:30] <ubotu> New bug: #119523 in deskbar-applet (main) "Beagle live don't works" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119523
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119524 in Ubuntu "Unable to Update" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119524
[01:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119525 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "no battery status on IBM Thinkpad x60s with 2.6.22-6" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119525
[01:46] <ubotu> New bug: #119526 in gnome-terminal (main) "Slow start time" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119526
[01:46] <ubotu> New bug: #119527 in gcalctool (main) "gcalctool isn't totally (spanish) translated on my system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119527
[01:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119528 in laptop-mode (main) "Please remove laptop-mode from the Ubuntu archives" [Wishlist,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119528
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119529 in eclipse (universe) "please sync eclipse 3.2.2-1 from debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119529
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119531 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "UUID problems after 2.6.20-16.29 kernel upgrade" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119531
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119533 in jack (universe) "/usr/bin/jack segfaults" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119533
[02:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119534 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu Packages appear as not authenticated" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119534
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119536 in egoboo (universe) "Characters do not appear (but surroundings and items do)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119536
[02:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119537 in usb-discover (main) "usb mouse stops" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119537
[02:41] <ubotu> New bug: #119538 in gnome-panel (main) "Only one desktop avaible and i can't remove comprix" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119538
[02:46] <ubotu> New bug: #119539 in sound-juicer (main) "Cannot extract two CDs simultaneously" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119539
[02:46] <ubotu> New bug: #119540 in Ubuntu "No graphical way to edit grub menu.lst file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119540
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119541 in gnome-cups-manager (main) "User-friendly printer sharing" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119541
[02:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119542 in ubiquity (main) "Mythbuntu installation crash. syslog and partman contents." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119542
[03:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119545 in jabberd2 (universe) "Please sync jabberd2 s11-1 from Debian experimental" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119545
[03:15] <persia> OK.  The bug got updated > 5 minutes ago.  Where's my bugmail!
[03:15] <Hobbsee> new, or updated?
[03:15] <Hobbsee> lp is probably slow again
[03:16] <ubotu> New bug: #119548 in mono (main) "portablility: the mcs and gmcs should warn if you use a windows-like path" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119548
[03:17] <Hobbsee> morning Mithrand1r
[03:18] <persia> Hobbsee: Updated.  I'm just impatient.
[03:18] <Hobbsee> persia: heh
[03:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119549 in openoffice.org (main) "open office menu is not usable if the theme does not display the icons" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119549
[03:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119550 in openoffice.org (main) "open office presentations crash when presenting a ms powerpoint file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119550
[03:35] <Toxicity999> Sorry for the spam last night, my bouncer had a seizure.
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119553 in cupsys (main) "cupsys has to be restartet after some jobs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119553
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119554 in Ubuntu "Error Message without text displayed when removing usb mass storage" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119554
[03:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119555 in openoffice.org (main) "openoffice.org crash using exported nfs homes and nis authentication" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119555
[03:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119556 in cupsys (main) "cupsd encounters error and continually floods log file with the same error" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119556
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #119557 in empathy (universe) "telepathy segfaults if MSN is not available" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119557
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119558 in Ubuntu "its my life" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119558
[04:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119559 in totem (main) "Totem screen where the video shows kind of acts wierd with desktop effects enabled" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119559
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119560 in libcommons-dbcp-java (universe) "Please sync libcommons-dbcp-java 1.2.1-5 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119560
[04:28] <Kmos> kernel 2.6.15 is from breezy ?
[04:30] <DarkMageZ> 2.6.15 was dapper
[04:30] <DarkMageZ> i think .12 was breezy
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #119561 in hal (main) "Not getting full screen resolution" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119561
[04:33] <Kmos> ha ko
[04:33] <Kmos> ok
[04:33] <Kmos> bug 29613
[04:33] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 29613 in linux-source-2.6.15 "Ubuntu Breezy installer hangs at "Choose Language" on Acer Travelmate 4100WLMi" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/29613
[04:33] <Kmos> this bug is for breezy and its marked on 2.6.15
[04:34] <Hobbsee> Kmos: EOL.
[04:34] <Hobbsee> Kmos: unless it's reproducable in gutsy
[04:34] <Kmos> Hobbsee: yeah
[04:35] <Kmos> Hobbsee: i don't reported it, so I really don't know
[04:35] <Kmos> maybe I just mark it "fix released" and say "if bug still present on feisty/gutsy, re-open it!"
[04:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119562 in Ubuntu "Freeze system" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119562
[04:35] <Kmos> i'm checking oldest bugs from the start
[04:36] <persia> Kmos: Better to mark "Rejected" if it hasn't been fixed in that long, as there's no way to know that it was released.
[04:36] <Kmos> persia: yeah
[04:37] <Hobbsee> Kmos: yeah
[04:37] <Kmos> LP
[04:37] <Kmos> IntegrityError
[04:37] <Kmos> A server error occurred.
[04:37] <Kmos> LOL
[04:40] <DarkMageZ> Kmos, Bug #26038 is still an issue on ubuntu dapper, uptodate as of today.
[04:40] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 26038 in mozilla "[CVE-2005-1790]  DoS against Mozilla-based browsers" [High,Fix released]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/26038
[04:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119563 in Ubuntu "wifi needs to be switched off then back on again in order for network-manager to use it." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119563
[04:43] <Kmos> DarkMageZ: i'll change it
[04:44] <Kmos> thx
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119565 in Ubuntu "Massive filesystem corruption with Intel Pro 1000 GT Desktop NIC" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119565
[05:25] <ubotu> New bug: #119567 in Ubuntu "KDE Intermittent lockup booting from CD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119567
[05:46] <ubotu> New bug: #119569 in amsn (universe) "Emoticons can't be used while running Beryl" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119569
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119570 in system-config-printer (main) "applet.py crashed with DBusException in __new__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119570
[05:50] <ubotu> New bug: #119571 in gnome-terminal (main) "dynamic Mmap ran out of room" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119571
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119572 in iso-codes (main) "wrong English names in iso-codes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119572
[06:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119573 in xulrunner (universe) "Cannot install libmozjs-dev" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119573
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119574 in system-config-printer (main) "applet.py crashed with DBusException in __new__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119574
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119575 in system-config-printer (main) "applet.py crashed with DBusException in __new__()" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119575
[06:21] <ubotu> New bug: #119576 in gnome-panel (main) "mouse loosed functionality and keyborde functions lost " [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119576
[06:26] <ubotu> New bug: #119577 in firefox (main) "firefox crashed,caused whole system to lockup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119577
[06:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119506 in openoffice.org (main) "xfce ubuntu bug" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119506
[06:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119578 in openoffice.org (main) "MSoffice word doc not in same format in OpenOffice" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119578
[06:50] <jerome_> hello all
[06:50] <jerome_> I need a little help to triage bug #50923
[06:50] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 50923 in pwlib "Firewire camera not found with ekiga 1394avc plugin" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/50923
[06:51] <jerome_> i don't know if this is an ekiga issue or a pwlib issue
[06:51] <jerome_> could someone advise me ?
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119579 in xvmount (universe) "xvmount won't autoconfigure - Ubuntu Feisty" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119579
[07:11] <ubotu> New bug: #119580 in ubiquity (main) "installer crashed, maybe due to too many swap partitions" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119580
[07:11] <ubotu> New bug: #119581 in gucharmap (main) "No right-click character information with desktop effects" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119581
[07:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119582 in Ubuntu "Won't boot system on ps3" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119582
[07:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119583 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "ACPI: BIOS bug: multiple APIC/MADT" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119583
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #119584 in ubiquity (main) "Installing Ubuntu removes both UUID and LABEL from partition" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119584
[07:30] <ubotu> New bug: #119585 in Ubuntu ""out of range" message on monitor" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119585
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119587 in Ubuntu "wrong rendering of arabic characters" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119587
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119588 in Ubuntu "Wrong rendering of Arabic characters" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119588
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #119590 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "duplicate vfs_listxattr when UNION_FS and FS_XATTR =y" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119590
[07:59] <Pierre> keescook, ping?
[07:59] <Hobbsee> !weekend
[07:59] <ubotu> It's a weekend.  Often on weekends, the paid developers, and a lot of the community, may not be around to answer your question.  Please be patient, wait longer than you normally would, or try again during the working week.
[08:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119591 in eqonomize "Eqonomize does not adapt properly to the screen size" [Medium,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119591
[08:41] <ubotu> New bug: #119594 in mapserver (universe) "Please sync mapserver (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119594
[08:51] <ubotu> New bug: #119595 in ktechlab (universe) "SIGSEGV when using T2CON" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119595
[09:05] <ubotu> New bug: #119597 in arping (universe) "Conflict with network manager, why?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119597
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119593 in Ubuntu "I lost my home ordner" [Wishlist,Rejected]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119593
[09:31] <ubotu> New bug: #119599 in Ubuntu "When looking at .AVI file properties , Nautilus Crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119599
[09:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119601 in kde-systemsettings (main) "KPrintManager - kdesu weirdness" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119601
[09:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119603 in eog (main) "Doesn't start when specifying an SVG file on command line" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119603
[09:57] <phixnay> How do you report a bug if it prevents gusty from being installed? The spash screen of the gusty cd works, but about a minute into "Start or install ubuntu" I get ata errors. This also happened with the feisty boot cd, but not with edgy's boot cd. I think it has to do with the move to SCSI drivers.
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #119604 in Ubuntu "gnucash segfaults on investment entry" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119604
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #119605 in synaptic (main) "dpkg was interrupted" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119605
[10:16] <ubotu> New bug: #119606 in gnome-panel (main) "update-manager amd64" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119606
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #119608 in gnome-terminal (main) "gnome-terminal and compiz / minimize and maximize behaviour" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119608
[10:21] <coNP> !limewire
[10:21] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[10:26] <Admiral_Chicago> bug 119293
[10:26] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 119293 in skencil "skencil segfault on startup" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119293
[10:35] <ubotu> New bug: #119609 in gnome-system-monitor (main) "Should have a panel display for free disk space" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119609
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #119610 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) ""ata3: EH in ADMA mode" and system freezes for about 3 minutes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119610
[10:45] <ubotu> New bug: #119611 in ia32-libs-openoffice.org (main) "Conflict with package ia32-libs" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119611
[10:59] <coNP> !gnome-art
[10:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gnome-art - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:06] <ubotu> New bug: #119612 in Ubuntu "rt2500 wireless card doesn't work" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119612
[11:15] <ubotu> New bug: #119613 in synaptic (main) "Software index is Broken" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119613
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #119614 in scrollkeeper (main) "avoid several instances running simultaneously" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119614
[11:30] <ubotu> New bug: #119615 in gmime2.2 (main) "Weird message when upgrading from Feisty to Gutsy..." [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119615
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #119618 in debian-installer (main) "Gutsy Tribe 1 Alternate Installer only show 1 hard disk (not 3)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/119618


[02:26] <rscnt> !a
[02:26] <rscnt> !help
[02:27] <rscnt> !patience
[02:27] <rscnt> !whoami
[02:27] <rscnt> @whoami
[02:27] <rscnt> !asdasd


[18:41] <philipballew> San Diego is winning
[18:41] <philipballew> http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2014/8/1/tech-companies-thrivinginsandiegotijuanaborderzone.html
[18:41] <darthrobot`> Title: [Tech companies thriving in San Diego–Tijuana border zone | Al Jazeera America]
[20:52] <grantbow> \o/
[20:52] <philipballew> grantbow, \0/
[20:52] <grantbow> +1 San Diego
[20:54] <philipballew> Its much nicer when you have a manufacturing plant for your product that is 100 meters from the design facility.


[09:56] <njende> Frederick: you may need to install the brazil language packs
[09:56] <Schuenemann> user__: sorry, it's not that... you have to through ~/.mozilla/firefox/...
[09:56] <njende> Frederick: ass
[09:56] <ThePub> oops, he needed to apply llutz suggestion to his other ati configuraiton
[09:56] <njende> Frederick: assistant
[09:56] <ThePub> oh well :)
[09:56] <njende> fredereick
[09:56] <gan|y|med> it's beena long time since i did set up grub last time. how is the video option for changing the number of lines during boot-up (the one with the tux image)?
[09:56] <Frederick> njende: wich is it name?
[09:56] <majnoon> getting weird lines in X though
[09:56] <njende> Frederick: if you click on File
[09:57] <njende> Frederick: then on assistant
[09:57] <majnoon> ThePub: it SEMI working
[09:58] <njende> Frederick: its the wizard ;-)
[09:58] <majnoon> getting weird lines in kde now
[09:58] <ThePub> majnoon: so what's your xorg.conf look like now?
[09:58] <llutz> majnoon: only 100% counts ;)
[09:59] <styvy> Schuenemann, thatt's for copying a protected cd, the copy is a clone, so it's still protected
[09:59] <multifu> msg nickserv register
[10:00] <majnoon> <IP_ADDRESS>:8000/paste/  changed log
[10:00] <majnoon> *xorg.conf
[10:00] <Schuenemann> styvy: there's a windows program called anydvd that removes the protection so you can copy... is that the same?
[10:01] <styvy> no, it's just reading and writing raw data, so that the protection don't work
[10:02] <styvy> doesn't
[10:03] <JohnFlux> what's the x module called for "direct video"
[10:03] <JohnFlux> dga?
[10:03] <JohnFlux> When I run xawtv  I get X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode
[10:04] <sergio__> oi
[10:04] <majnoon> ThePub: you see anything wrong still ??
[10:05] <majnoon> the box SAYS it a nvidia geforce mx4000
[10:05] <njende> Frederick: still here?
[10:06] <njende> Frederick: http://projects.openoffice.org/native-lang.html
[10:06] <sergio__> yes
[10:06] <sergio__> oi
[10:06] <njende> Frederick: or you may want to join the openoffice.org channel @ freenode
[10:06] <njende> main2:
[10:07] <njende> main2: where and how did you get the *.dat file?
[10:07] <ThePub> majnoon: except lspci clearly says it's an ati, eh?
[10:08] <majnoon> YUP
[10:08] <njende> Frederick: !ping
[10:08] <mildner> please send me the german ubuntu link
[10:08] <njende> mildner: huh?
[10:08] <njende> mildner: what german ubuntu link?
[10:08] <ThePub> majnoon: maybe start removing stuff that isn't necessary, idk.  if it's work, then the card is apparently responding.
[10:09] <ThePub> majnoon: can comment out dri, glx in files
[10:09] <mildner> I think here is only kubuntu....isn't it....my system is ubuntu
[10:09] <ThePub> majnoon: double-check your monitor sync/refresh numbers to make sur ethey're correct for your monitor
[10:09] <njende> mildner: so just change the channel to ubunut
[10:09] <njende> mildner: so just change the channel to ubuntu
[10:10] <njende> mildner: shouldnt be such abig deal
[10:10] <njende> !ubuntu
[10:10] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[10:10] <ThePub> majnoon: comment out the usefbdev line under the device section
[10:10] <njende> mildner: there are no links for IRC's
[10:10] <ThePub> majnoon: and if you're using gdm/kdm then issue /etc/init.d/(gdm/kdm) restart
[10:11] <majnoon> ok me try
[10:11] <njende> mildner: have it?
[10:11] <Frederick> folks I managed to set up accents and brazilian characters for gtk applications but it doesnt work for open office, any ideas? ive installed the br language pack also
[10:11] <njende> mildner: if not, what client do you use to join the IRC?
[10:12] <aleksanteri> great, M$' CD burner ruined my CD's :| >:(
[10:12] <njende> mildner: no answer is cool, as it makes it impossible to help ;-)
[10:13] <njende> mildner: !ping
[10:13] <njende> n8 folks
[10:15] <majnoon> ok only about half the lines
[10:16] <shadowhywind> i was wondering if someone could help me with a problem. I can not seam to get an ip with a different computer. all i have the konsole. and i don't remember the command to get an ip
[10:16] <majnoon> ThePub:  ok only about half the lines
[10:16] <ThePub> hmm
[10:17] <ThePub> lol, ok
[10:17] <ThePub> wierd
[10:22] <majnoon> how change resolution  ??
[10:22] <coreymon77> guys
[10:23] <coreymon77> ThePub: was it you who told me about the remote assistance like program for kubuntu
[10:23] <gan|y|med> i use kmldonkey. the status of the files i wanna download is "looking" and doesn't change. firewall settings should be okay. any idea why this is so?
[10:24] <rexbron> can anyone tell me how to absorb free space in front of a partition into that partition?
[10:25] <majnoon> ThePub:  how change resolution  ??
[10:25] <ThePub> majnoon: ctrl-alt-+ should give you some options
[10:25] <ThePub> majnoon: or -
[10:25] <shadowhywind> what is a konsole command to grab an ip addy?
[10:26] <majnoon> brb
[10:31] <hans> shadowhywind: grab as in how?
[10:31] <hans> ifconfig?
[10:31] <shadowhywind> like a dhcpcd
[10:32] <hans> dhclient
[10:32] <shadowhywind> dhclient isn't installed
[10:32] <majnoon> ok switched to lower res it LOOKS ok
[10:33] <ThePub> majnoon: the resolution can be guaranteed by editing the modes
[10:33] <majnoon> did reconfigure of xserver-xorg
[10:34] <ThePub> majnoon: asked if you did that originally and you claimed you did.
[10:34] <MalfermitaKodo> Can someone help me before I go Windows again?
[10:34] <MalfermitaKodo> I want to have adept back!
[10:34] <coreymon77> guys
[10:34] <majnoon> not sure
[10:35] <coreymon77> what is the port i have to ipen in my routers firewall for vnx remote desktop connection
[10:35] <coreymon77> in other words
[10:35] <coreymon77> krdc
[10:36] <MalfermitaKodo> coreymon77: can't you select it?
[10:36] <majnoon> not sure WHAT i did
[10:39] <MalfermitaKodo> *feels
[10:40] <notech> no need to swear
[10:40] <MalfermitaKodo> notech: I needed to vent somewhere and can't be loud IRLly. I want to install programs and can not with any program
[10:41] <aleksanteri> :D kubuntu works!
[10:41] <notech> not really a good excuse....but use apt-get frm the command line
[10:42] <MalfermitaKodo> apt-get is not possible because I do not know the name, synaptic crashes my PC and that weird program which comes as default is crashy and fails to find anything
[10:42] <coreymon77> guys
[10:42] <aleksanteri> ok gotta install ;)
[10:42] <coreymon77> im trying to use krdc and im having router firewall problems
[10:43] <ThePub> MalfermitaKodo: use apt-cache to search for what you want, then apt-get to install?
[10:43] <MalfermitaKodo> is there nothing graphical anymore for this?
[10:44] <julle> Is there anyone who can tell me who i put up a VNC server on my comp via the terminal ?
[10:44] <ThePub> MalfermitaKodo: sure, synaptic.. adept..  tbh, the console tools are straight forward, faster and don't get in your way.
[10:44] <coreymon77> guys
[10:44] <coreymon77> im trying to use krdc and im having router firewall problems
[10:44] <coreymon77> what are the ports that i have to open?
[10:44] <MalfermitaKodo> adept does not exist!
[10:44] <MalfermitaKodo> adept
[10:44] <MalfermitaKodo> bash: adept: command not found
[10:44] <coreymon77> and does the person im connecting to have to have a static i[
[10:45] <coreymon77> ip*
[10:45] <coreymon77> or will dhcp work
[10:45] <Schuenemann> how can I use my infrared with linux?
[10:45] <MalfermitaKodo> coreymon77: you need to know the IP
[10:46] <ThePub> MalfermitaKodo: so install adept using apt?
[10:46] <BluesKaj> synaptic too
[10:46] <coreymon77> he sent me an invite
[10:47] <mc__> how to configure vpn with knetworkmanager?
[10:48] <MalfermitaKodo> sudo apt-get install adept
[10:48] <MalfermitaKodo> E: Konnte Lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock nicht bekommen - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:48] <MalfermitaKodo> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:48] <ThePub> MalfermitaKodo: so you have some package manager already running.
[10:48] <mc__> MalfermitaKodo: are you running anythin like adept,aptitude oder apt-get atm?
[10:48] <MalfermitaKodo> of course, synaptic crashed my PC
[10:48] <MalfermitaKodo> this is why it is still locked
[10:48] <mc__> MalfermitaKodo:  sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[10:48] <MalfermitaKodo> but this program is not running like now
[10:49] <mc__> MalfermitaKodo: just remove the lock
[10:49] <MalfermitaKodo> no such file or directory
[10:49] <hans> nah the automated updater locks the file
[10:49] <MalfermitaKodo> oh, I typoed
[10:49] <MalfermitaKodo> my mistake
[10:50] <hans> check what process has it locked
[10:50] <MalfermitaKodo> adept is already the newest verseion
[10:50] <MalfermitaKodo> *version
[10:50] <MalfermitaKodo> (yes, I am translating the error-messages into English)
[10:51] <Schuenemann> anyone know how can I use my infrared with linux?
[10:53] <sungam> MalfermitaKodo | !adept crash fix
[10:54] <sungam> ... ubotu was supposed to reply: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a' :/
[10:54] <MalfermitaKodo> hmm?
[10:54] <MalfermitaKodo> ah
[10:55] <MalfermitaKodo> well, it works now
[10:55] <tony__> hello...can anyone tell me how to install frozen bubbles for kubuntu edgy eft
[10:56] <MalfermitaKodo> tony__: sudo apt-get install frozen-bubble
[10:57] <tony__> it says couldn't find package frozen-bubble
[10:58] <max_> i tried to do a dual boot (windows and linux, linux being the primary) but i did it wrong and installed windows second, so i lost my GRUB, i reinstalled the GRUB but now when i press <esc> while booting i dont see windows a a OS choice, only kubuntu and kubuntu (recovery)....help anyone?
[10:58] <majnoon> ThePub: it just on the higher reolutions
[10:58] <sungam> !frozen-bubble
[10:58] <ubotu> frozen-bubble: Pop out the bubbles !. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.0.0-6ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 72 kB, installed size 356 kB
[10:58] <TheGateKeeper> !grub
[10:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:58] <sungam> tony__, add universe to your repositories
[10:58] <TheGateKeeper> majnoon, ^^^^
[10:59] <majnoon> ???
[10:59] <max_> TheGateKeeper: my grub is installed, but it only recognizes linux, not windows also
[10:59] <majnoon> having ATI video probs NOT grub troubles
[10:59] <TheGateKeeper> majnoon, read ubotu
[11:00] <TheGateKeeper> majnoon, sorry wrong person
[11:00] <sungam> max_, read the page TheGateKeeper got for you from ubotu :)
[11:00] <tony__> i already have all the repositories enabled..at least I think i do..i've enabled universe and multiverse
[11:00] <sungam> max_, basically you need to add windows to your menu.lst, there should be an example in there
[11:01] <tony__> i'm a noob too..so please keep this in mind
[11:01] <max_> sungam: oh, ok thanks
[11:01] <TheGateKeeper> l8r folks
[11:01] <sungam> tony__, have you updated?
[11:01] <sungam> tony__, sudo apt-get update
[11:01] <tony__> ok..updating now
[11:02] <wildchild> I can't belive this shit! yesterday as before I had problems with opening music file in amarok, audacity and terminatorx. Then stefaans told me this command: tail -f  /var/log/messages  and everything worked fine. And today similar problem, just that terminatorx and audacity won't play music :SSSSS
[11:02] <tony__> woohoo..it's now working..installing it right now!!..thanks so much!!
[11:02] <max_> sungam: can you tell me what example it is? i dont know what your talking about
[11:03] <Schuenemann> wildchild: you did sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs ?
[11:03] <wildchild> Schuenemann: yes
[11:03] <wildchild> I did this after I've installed edgy
[11:03] <tony__> now that I have frozen bubble...I hear tux racer is also good...do i get it the same way? sudo apt-get install tux-racer?
[11:03] <Schuenemann> I don't know, sorry
[11:03] <wildchild> :SS
[11:04] <sungam> max_, http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_Windows_entry_into_GRUB_menu
[11:05] <sungam> wildchild, all 'tail -f /var/log/messages' does is print the last entries in the file /var/log/messages :)
[11:05] <harmental> hi ..
[11:05] <max_> sungam: thank you very much
[11:05] <harmental> where are apps icon files in kubuntu?
[11:05] <wildchild> I know, but funny thing is after this amarok was playing also audacity and terminatorx
[11:06] <sungam> max_, np... that site is golden if you're new to linux :)
[11:07] <max_> singam: im not new, ive just never tried a dual boot before
[11:07] <sungam> max_, well. either way, it's still a site worth checking if you need to look up how to do stuff. Most of the standard things you need to do are there :)
[11:07] <aleksanteri> btw
[11:07] <aleksanteri> need a little help
[11:08] <max_> singam: everyone loves wiki's
[11:08] <eilker> !samba
[11:08] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:08] <knapp__> Anyone know of a way to integrate like a "Upload to Imageshack (or other image hosting service)" into the right-click menu, or possibly into dikiKam?
[11:08] <aleksanteri> does anyone know the location of the file where you can set the "AllowRootLogin" option?
[11:09] <knapp__> aleksanteri: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_allow_root_user_to_login_into_GNOME
[11:09] <rizo> hello
[11:09] <aleksanteri> knapp__: thx will look into that
[11:09] <sungam> !root | aleksanteri
[11:09] <ubotu> aleksanteri: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[11:10] <sungam> just a bit late :)
[11:10] <knapp__> Anyone know of a way to integrate like a "Upload to Imageshack (or other image hosting service)" into the right-click menu, or possibly into dikiKam?
[11:10] <aleksanteri> ahh it was at "/etc/kde/kdm"
[11:11] <Schuenemann> anybody knows how to use a usb infrared device with linux?
[11:16] <LordOliver> how do I find out if there is a linmodem for my pc?
[11:16] <Frederick> folks wich is the comand on the american keyboard to input a
[11:16] <Frederick> ?
[11:16] <LordOliver> there is none
[11:17] <Frederick> how do  I do it?
[11:17] <Frederick> alt+ a combo?
[11:17] <sungam> ALT-0178 I think
[11:17] <Schuenemann> alt 167 ?
[11:17] <sungam> or that
[11:18] <Schuenemann> or 186 heh
[11:18] <sungam> :)
[11:18] <sungam> I can't test it.. I'm on a laptop
[11:18] <rizo> :
[11:18] <Frederick> damm none of tose comands owrk here
[11:18] <rizo> :)
[11:18] <Schuenemann> can't test here because konversation switches channel tabs
[11:21] <galathalion> i need a program like notepad in kde
[11:21] <sungam> kate
[11:21] <Schuenemann> kate?
[11:21] <nav> hey is anyone in here familiar with hardware recognition?
[11:22] <jbruckman> nav:  what sort of hardware
[11:22] <galathalion> sungam: is it originally in kde?
[11:22] <jbruckman> nav: or were you just referring to in general?
[11:22] <nav> I have a control on the front of my laptop, it was recognized by ubuntu but when i switched to kde it stopped working
[11:22] <sungam> galathalion, yes
[11:22] <galathalion> sungam: ok thanx
[11:23] <sungam> galathalion, yw
[11:23] <Frederick> can I assign another combo to use it?
[11:23] <jbruckman> nav: I'm afraid I'm not sure how to help you there, sorry. I would imagine you can probably just set your shortcuts to those "keys" using the interface.
[11:24] <nav> hmm
[11:24] <nav> worth a try, thanx
[11:24] <sungam> nav, does xev pick it up?
[11:24] <jbruckman> nav: yep.
[11:25] <Schuenemann> anybody knows how to use a usb infrared device with linux?
[11:25] <eMish_> I have a quesstion
[11:26] <eMish_> THe guys at work asked me: how do they cram everything into 1 CD in kubuntu, if fedora takes 4 disks ?
[11:26] <eMish_> How ?
[11:26] <Schuenemann> fewer programs
[11:26] <Schuenemann> suse has 5 cds, debian has over 10...
[11:26] <nav> i just tried xev, got quite a large amount spitting out
[11:27] <nav> not quite sure what to look for
[11:28] <eMish_> Schuenemann: maybe same as serial-usb ?
[11:28] <Schuenemann> huh?
[11:28] <revan> Hi, I've just installed Kubuntu off of a Live CD. I used to use Gentoo. In gentoo I had beryl emerged. I was wondering how I could get beryl in Kubuntu
[11:28] <eMish_> CONFIG_USB_IRDA
[11:29] <Schuenemann> what do you mean?
[11:29] <eMish_> Schuenemann: grep Schuenemann /boot/config*
[11:29] <eMish_> oops
[11:29] <eMish_> Schuenemann: grep CONFIG_USB_IRDA /boot/config*
[11:30] <Schuenemann> /boot/config-2.6.15-26-386:CONFIG_USB_IRDA=m
[11:30] <Schuenemann> /boot/config-2.6.15-27-386:CONFIG_USB_IRDA=m
[11:30] <notech> revan: if your sources are correct, apt-get install beryl
[11:30] <Schuenemann> what does this mean?
[11:30] <revan> ok, ty notech
[11:30] <eMish_> that means that your kernel has this driver
[11:30] <eMish_> you might need to modprobe it
[11:31] <notech> means they were configured in the kernel as loadable modules
[11:31] <Schuenemann> and what is modprobe?
[11:31] <jbruckman> revan: I just got beryl working. It's easy with Edgy. Just follow the online wiki install page
[11:31] <Schuenemann> damn I know nothing about this =]
[11:31] <notech> modprobe loads a module
[11:31] <revan> jbruckman: where can I find the wiki install page?
[11:31] <jbruckman> revan: i'm pulling it up for you, one sec. :)
[11:31] <Schuenemann> how to modprobe it?
[11:32] <eMish_> Schuenemann: modprobe irda-usb
[11:32] <revan> jbruckman: ok, thank you :)
[11:32] <eMish_> maybe you need to supply parameters, I dunno
[11:32] <jbruckman> revan: Here, use this. Just read it carefully, and you'll be fine.
[11:32] <eMish_> try to google for irda-usb
[11:32] <jbruckman> revan: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/wiki/Install/Ubuntu
[11:32] <eMish_> i don't have this device
[11:32] <eMish_> the hardware, i mean
[11:32] <Schuenemann> no output from that command
[11:32] <eMish_> that's fine
[11:33] <eMish_> when you connect this device to usb, do dmesg
[11:33] <jbruckman> revan: if you had beryl on your previous installs, you should be fine as far as the graphics card is concerned--just make sure you have the drivers installed. The guide helps you with that too
[11:33] <eMish_> and see there if it's recognized
[11:33] <notech> no output means it loaded successfully
[11:33] <jbruckman> revan: good luck!
[11:33] <revan> jbruckman: Thanks, I'll check that out :)
[11:33] <Schuenemann> some things about irda appeared
[11:33] <Schuenemann> [17211328.312000]  usbcore: registered new driver irda-usb
[11:33] <Schuenemann> [17211328.312000]  USB IrDA support registered
[11:33] <Schuenemann> [17211365.668000]  usb 2-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6
[11:33] <eMish_> lsmod|grep irda-usb    tells you whether the modules was successfully loaded
[11:33] <eMish_> Schuenemann: here you go
[11:34] <Schuenemann> no output again
[11:34] <eMish_> now look for new entries under /dev/usb or like
[11:34] <Frederick> folks do you know any program I can use to remap some keys?
[11:34] <Schuenemann> eMish_ can I send you a private msg?
[11:34] <eMish_> no no
[11:34] <eMish_> i have nothing to hide
[11:34] <Schuenemann> lol
[11:34] <eMish_> :~)
[11:35] <eMish_> you need to find /dev entry now
[11:35] <jbruckman> Frederick: what keys?
[11:35] <Schuenemann> a big message appeared after I typed dmesg
[11:35] <Schuenemann> new USB, then USB disconnected address 3
[11:36] <Schuenemann> same for address 4 and 5
[11:36] <eMish_> Schuenemann: man irattach + google irattach irda-usb
[11:36] <Frederick> jbruckman: I need some keys like  and
[11:36] <dhq_> how to install xgl with all the effect
[11:36] <Frederick> to have sortcuts
[11:36] <jbruckman> Frederick: have you tried the keyboard shortcuts in the system settings?
[11:36] <Schuenemann> I'm without web access now
[11:36] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> !xgl
[11:36] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[11:36] <Schuenemann> I'll try later, do I have to type all this again?
[11:37] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> dhq_: just remember, xgl is highly BETA, and very very unreliable.
[11:37] <eMish_> Schuenemann: just remember all this
[11:37] <dhq_> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: thanx
[11:37] <dhq_> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: which is safe
[11:37] <jbruckman> i love my xgl with beryl + emerald themes.
[11:37] <eMish_> you need to type it piece by piece, but not all at once :-)
[11:38] <Schuenemann>  /dev/usb does not exist
[11:38] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> i am staying away from XGL forever... XGL is a dead project, something better will fork off of it.
[11:38] <Frederick> jbruckman: yes it is not there
[11:38] <jbruckman> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: most likely, but for now, i'm having fun with it
[11:38] <jbruckman> !keyboard
[11:38] <ubotu> Keyboard shortcuts can be set in system->preferences->keyboard shortcuts (Gnome) or "input actions" in Kcontrol (KDE). If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try keytouch - http://keytouch.sourceforge.net
[11:38] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> jbruckman: it sure is fun until about the 4th week in when all the bugs make you wanna jump off a 5 story roof
[11:39] <jbruckman> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: i actually haven't run into a single problem with it in the weeks i've been using it
[11:39] <Schuenemann> eMish_:  /dev/usb does not exist... was that supposed to happen?
[11:39] <jbruckman> Frederick: try keytouch
[11:39] <dhq_> t3hwiz0rd-ibook: so aiglx is better
[11:40] <gilt> hello everybody
[11:40] <t3hwiz0rd-ibook> dhq_: the truth of it is none of the X servers overlaying openGL are better than eachother on stability. All of them are beta and have a list of bugs larger than the gentoo bible.
[11:40] <gilt> anybody..what version does kubuntu have for video 4 linux
[11:41] <gilt> is it framework 1 or 2
[11:41] <hans> gilt: vlc?
[11:41] <gilt> <hans yes
[11:41] <gilt> is it v4l version 1 or 2
[11:43] <hans> not sure Version: 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 is installed here
[11:43] <Frederick> jbruckman: I need it to a pc not lappy
[11:44] <Schuenemann> eMish_: oh please, you're the first person in ages that knows something about it... :p
[11:44] <hans> gilt: seems to have plugins for v4l 1 and 2
[11:45] <gilt> <hans my dmesg shows Linux video capture interface: v1.00
[11:45] <max_> where do you turn on the menu and kmenu transparency?
[11:45] <gilt> what does this mean is it v4l2 or v4l
[11:46] <hans> gilt: I would guess 2!
[11:46] <hans> else why bother with version 2 plugins
[11:46] <hans> but I am just guessing
[11:47] <ErikTheRed> anyone know of a good linux alternative to teamspeak or ventrilo?
[11:47] <ErikTheRed> the linux teamspeak client is such a piece of garbage
[11:47] <hans> gtg
[11:47] <gilt> <hans are u certain because i saw someone else dmes and they had Linux video capture interface: v2.00
[11:47] <ErikTheRed> i can get it to work, but i can't get sound from anything else to work while it's open
[11:47] <max_> where do you turn on the menu and kmenu transparency?
[11:50] <revan> hi again
[11:50] <revan> I got beryl to install, but I can't run it unfortunately
[11:50] <revan> ~# beryl
[11:50] <revan> xvinfo:  Unable to open display
[11:50] <revan> XGL Absent, checking for NVIDIA
[11:50] <revan> xdpyinfo:  unable to open display "".
[11:50] <revan> Nvidia Absent, assuming AIGLX
[11:50] <revan> beryl: Couldn't open display
[11:50] <Frederick> fokks I really couldnt manage to add hotkeys for
[11:51] <revan> ack! sorry for all the lines :(
[11:51] <Frederick> and  can anyone help me please?
[11:51] <cntb> can left alt be both for alt-tab "walk through windows " and ISO_next_group as keyboard language changer ?
[11:51] <max_> where do you turn on the menu and kmenu transparency?
[11:52] <Schuenemann> !tty
[11:52] <ubotu> To get to the tty terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).
[11:52] <Schuenemann> what is tty?
[11:53] <max_> terminals
[11:56] <max_> where do you turn on the menu and kmenu transparency?
[11:59] <grunge> ciaooooo
[12:00] <max_> where do you turn on the menu and kmenu transparency?
[12:01] <Schuenemann> !pts
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pts - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:03] <weedar> I'm having trouble turning of tap-to-click on my touchpad, does anyone have a sure way of fixing this?
[12:06] <Schuenemann> new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7 --- anyone can tell me what does this mean?
[12:09] <Hawkwind> nightrid3r: Please turn off the away announcer script
[12:11] <chris__> hello
[12:11] <chris__> how i can see my windows partitions?


[01:16] <mup> PR snapcraft#4056 closed: spread: core24 testing infra <Created by sergiusens> <Merged by sergiusens> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/4056>
[12:22] <mup> PR snapd#12624 opened: interfaces/hardware-observe: allow readin /proc/tty/driver/* <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12624>
[13:23] <mup> PR snapd#12603 closed: image,tests: add snap architecture check against model architecture for prepare-image <Squash-merge> <Created by Meulengracht> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12603>
[13:58] <mup> PR snapd#12625 opened: tests: work-around hooks running at restart <Created by valentindavid> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12625>
[14:38] <mup> PR snapd#12626 opened: account_control: allow local user account management <Created by sergio-costas> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12626>
[16:44] <mup> PR snapd#12144 closed: i/b/udisks2: multiple fixes <Created by valentindavid> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12144>
[16:49] <mup> PR snapd#12561 closed: many: read system options when handling kernel command line <Squash-merge> <Run nested> <Needs Documentation -auto-> <Run Nested -auto-> <Created by alfonsosanchezbeato> <Merged by mvo5> <https://github.com/snapcore/snapd/pull/12561>


[14:38] <pragmaticenigma> #ubuntu needs help with zeropoint. They have been asked several times to take their debate to #ubuntu-discuss ... and being obstinate. We need someone from ops to help inform them they need to follow the guidelines as they are currently acting more trollish and combative than a contributive community member
[14:40] <pragmaticenigma> hggdh: You around?
[14:44] <tomreyn> hi, some "IRCAnswersBot" from .cn just joined #ubuntu - is this known?
[15:37] <tomreyn> it's gone, and according to the quit message actually wasnt a bot


[03:48] <pitti> Good morning
[06:00] <seb128> good morning desktopers!
[06:55] <larsu> seb128: only 2:12 after pitti. You're getting there!
[06:55] <pitti> bonjour seb128 et larsu, comment allez-vous ?
[06:55] <pitti> seb128: oui, tu est tôt aujourd'hui !
[06:55] <seb128> larsu, no way pitti is up at that time
[06:56] <seb128> I was unsure if 7am is morning but I'm sure before 6am is not :p
[06:56] <seb128> pitti, salut, ça va bien ! et toi ?
[06:56] <larsu> pitti: ça va bien aussi. Et toi=
[06:56] <larsu> s/=/?
[06:57] <pitti> 05:48:46   pitti | Good morning
[06:57] <pitti> *shrug*
[06:57] <seb128> pitti, I'm not even going to pretend trying to compete with that ... :-)
[06:57] <pitti> seb128, larsu: ça va bien aussi, merci ! un peu fatigue, mais je ne peux plus dormier :(
[06:57] <pitti> "dormir"
[06:57] <pitti> seb128: no, please don't
[06:57] <seb128> :-(
[06:57] <pitti> 7:00 is nice, 5:30 is a nuisance
[06:57] <seb128> pitti, tu fais de l'insomnie ?
[06:57] <seb128> yeah
[06:58] <seb128> 7:00 is actually ok, at least in summer when it's nice outside
[06:58] <seb128> not sure in winter when it's dark and raining
[06:58] <pitti> so around 4 there were some cats or martens which made terribly loud noises
[06:58] <pitti> at 4:30 my wife woke up, got up at 4:50
[06:58] <pitti> and my head started thinking and I couldn't stop it
[06:59] <pitti> so I gave up trying to sleep at 5:30 :)
[06:59] <pitti> but I'm quite used to it by now
[07:00] <seb128> well, at least you enjoy the nice and fresh start of day
[07:00] <seb128> not sure how is the weather in Germany today, they forecasted over 30°C in Lyon today
[07:00] <pitti> seb128: so far quite nice and sunny, but still "only" 20 degrees
[07:04] <didrocks> waow, winter there :)
[07:11] <pitti> bonjour didrocks
[07:11] <didrocks> guten morgen pitti
[07:30] <seb128> bah
[07:31] <seb128> Saviq, rsalveti: some parts of the suru silo are blocked in proposed because ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles is outdated and makes ubuntu-touch uninstallable on i386/amd64
[07:31] <seb128> outdated = still on 1.47 where the ui toolkit got updated to 48
[07:32] <seb128> is any of you looking at that?
[07:32] <Saviq> seb128, first I've heard of that...
[07:33] <seb128> # apt-get install ubuntu-touch unity8 unity8-common qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin
[07:33] <seb128> ...
[07:33] <seb128> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:33] <seb128>  ubuntu-touch : Depends: qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin-gles but it is not going to be installed
[07:33] <Saviq> seb128, yeah I understand, do you know any details about the -gles package?
[07:33] <Saviq> like is there a branch somewhere or is this a source only package
[07:34] <seb128> Saviq, no, which is why I'm asking...
[07:34] <Saviq> seb128, I *just* found out that package exists...
[07:34] <seb128> I don't know much about it
[07:34] <seb128> out of that rsalveti dupped a bunch of those packages for the i386 emulator
[07:35] <seb128> keeping them in sync is annoying though, not the first time we get bitten by it
[07:35] <darkxst> hey all
[07:35] <seb128> hey!
[07:35] <seb128> sil2100, ^ do you know about ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles?
[07:36] <darkxst> pitti, gvfs bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-settings-daemon/+bug/1069964/comments/23
[07:37] <Saviq> seb128, TBH I don't know what to do with that... sil2100, do you know anything about how do we deal with https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles ?
[07:37] <sil2100> seb128: hey! I just know about its existance and that rsalveti asked to duplicate changes we make to the standard packages to the -gles packages
[07:37] <seb128> sil2100, can you do that? ;-)
[07:38] <Saviq> oh /me should read
[07:38] <seb128> that's currently blocking part of the suru transition
[07:38] <rsalveti> hey
[07:38] <seb128> rsalveti, hey ;-)
[07:38]  * Saviq didn't get the memo
[07:38] <rsalveti> so, we're duplicating a few packages, yeah
[07:38] <rsalveti> but the problem is that we're not updating it when landing new versions of the original packages
[07:38] <rsalveti> let me take a look
[07:38] <sil2100> seb128: I never did that, but I guess rsalveti would do it much faster, as he's a core dev ;)
[07:38] <sil2100> rsalveti: thanks!
[07:38] <seb128> rsalveti, should the ubuntu-ui-toolkit test/landing page hints that gles needs to be updated in sync?
[07:38] <seb128> rsalveti, thanks
[07:39] <rsalveti> seb128: yup, that's what I asked when I enabled the x86 emulator
[07:39] <rsalveti> but not sure if that happened :-)
[07:39] <Saviq> and maybe even citrain should have a check for a few of those to prevent publishing if both are not updated?
[07:39] <seb128> sil2100, ^ what do you think?
[07:39] <rsalveti> also something I asked before, maybe sil2100 can do such thing
[07:39] <rsalveti> let me update the tookit
[07:39] <Saviq> should not be crazy difficult, and sounds like without it we'll be shooting ourselves in the foot all the time
[07:40] <sil2100> seb128, Saviq: I can add a check in the publish phase indeed, that wouldn't be perfectly beautiful but at least practical ;)
[07:40] <darkxst> Laney, I can't reproduce any issue with monitors.xml, seems to be applied properly on login, and is saved properly from u-c-c provided call into the dbus api before timeout
[07:40] <seb128> sil2100, that would be nice
[07:40] <sil2100> Let me do that then
[07:40] <seb128> thanks
[07:40] <Saviq> rsalveti, for future reference, do you just apply the diff from distro to the source package or?
[07:40] <rsalveti> Saviq: yeah
[07:41] <rsalveti> Saviq: unless there are packaging differences, then we need to be a bit more careful
[07:41] <Saviq> rsalveti, and is there a list of those dupes somewhere?
[07:41] <darkxst> Laney, there may be issues with hotplugging a display though, but I don't have real hardware to test that on
[07:41] <rsalveti> we have in emails, let me get the list
[07:43] <rsalveti> Saviq: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7740743/ the email I sent to the landing team while ago
[07:45]  * Saviq will keep that in mind
[08:02] <rsalveti> Saviq: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-ui-toolkit-gles/0.1.48+14.10.20140701.2-0ubuntu1
[08:02] <Saviq> rsalveti, thanks and sorry about that
[08:02] <rsalveti> no worries :-)
[08:03] <Laney> morning
[08:03] <Laney> darkxst: it's not applied right for me
[08:04] <seb128> Laney, hey, how are you?
[08:04] <didrocks> hey Laney!
[08:05] <Laney> weeeeeeeeeeeeeellllll my alarm "didn't go off" this morning
[08:05] <Laney> so I have been up about 30 minutes :P
[08:05] <Laney> other than that, good
[08:06] <Laney> hey didrocks too!
[08:06] <Laney> how's lyon?
[08:07] <darkxst> Laney, do any errors get logged?
[08:07] <didrocks> Laney: as awesome as usual :)
[08:07] <seb128> Laney, 9am, seems your normal "good morning IRC" time ;-)
[08:07] <didrocks> I'll let seb128 confirm :p
[08:07] <Laney> yeah I'm eating breakfast at desk
[08:07] <seb128> I see
[08:07] <Laney> the schedule is all powerful!
[08:07] <seb128> Laney, Lyon is great, the rain yesterday morning was a small glitch, weather is back to south-of-france sunny ;-)
[08:08] <Laney> darkxst: where are the logs?
[08:08] <darkxst> I think they end up .cache/upstart/dbus.log
[08:11] <darkxst> Laney, also does reloading `unity-settings-daemon -r` apply the config?
[08:12] <Laney> it is applied, just not correctly
[08:12] <Laney> don't see anything interesting in the log
[08:14] <darkxst> what happens exactly? I switch my monitors (in a VM but still) via u-c-c, send the dbus, logout, come back and they are still switched
[08:14] <Laney> the resolution is correct but the position is wrong
[08:14] <Laney> the left monitor is on the right
[08:15] <Laney> i.e. going off its left edge brings me to the right edge of the right monitor
[08:19] <Laney> darkxst: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7740870/
[08:19] <Laney> try applying something like that, probably have to fudge it a bit
[08:22] <darkxst> Laney, was that generated by u-c-c or a custom one?
[08:22] <Laney> u-c-c
[08:23] <Laney> actually I cut it down a bit to see if some earlier stuff was causing the bug
[08:23] <Laney> can give you the full one if you want, didn't make a difference that I can see
[08:39] <darkxst> Laney, my VM won't do different resolutions on the monitors ;(
[08:39] <darkxst> and I can't logout/reboot right now
[09:45] <Laney> darkxst: Hmm
[09:45] <Laney> it gets to the case "No previous configuration found, try with a really default one"
[09:45] <Laney> monitor-config.c
[10:29] <darkxst> Laney, gah, I don't think it should even get to that, unless its not picking up your existing config for some reason
[10:29] <Laney> no idea
[10:30] <Laney> It's hard to figure out the flow of this code
[10:30] <Laney> I know that it does read and parse monitors.xml
[10:35] <darkxst> Laney, make_default should only be called if applying the previous config failed
[10:37] <darkxst> and its kind of hard to debug, when I can't reproduce
[12:54] <didrocks> desrt: larsu: hey, do you have any idea how I can ensure that I've process all timeout_add sources (I don't repeat them) when calling mainloop.quit() before exiting the application?
[13:16] <larsu> didrocks: g_main_context_pending() tells you whether there are any pending events left
[13:16] <larsu> didrocks: I don't know if pending means "in the current iteration", or in general
[13:17] <larsu> but desrt will know that :)
[13:17] <didrocks> larsu: I tried that, it seems to be only for idle_add source event
[13:17] <desrt> didrocks: not possible
[13:17] <desrt> didrocks: you have to keep track for yourself
[13:17] <didrocks> larsu: not for timeouts add
[13:17] <didrocks> ok, at least, the answer is clear :)
[13:17] <desrt> this is a frequently asked question and it's one of those things that's harder than it seems...
[13:17] <didrocks> thanks larsu, desrt ;)
[13:17] <desrt> larsu: pending means "will fire now"
[13:18] <larsu> desrt: yeah I had a feeling...
[13:18] <larsu> meh
[13:18] <desrt> the problem with asking "are there any sources attached now?" is that quite a lot of our events (and really, all of the interesting ones) come not from sources but from future not-yet-created sources
[13:19] <desrt> think pending async callbacks as the best example
[13:19] <desrt> or signals from dbus/gsettings/inotify
[13:20] <didrocks> yeah, can be, indeed
[13:23] <larsu> "for english, please press 9"
[13:23] <larsu> [continues speaking in french]
[13:23] <larsu> bah!
[13:25] <Laney> please say NEIN
[13:25] <larsu> NON
[13:27] <desrt> NE
[13:27] <desrt> everyone knows that english is 1 and french is 2
[13:27] <larsu> desrt: not in France...
[13:27] <seb128> larsu, who are you calling?
[13:27] <larsu> nothing is French
[13:27] <larsu> and everything else is French as well
[13:27] <larsu> seb128: air france :/
[13:27] <seb128> lol
[13:28] <desrt> it's so utterly universal that french is 2 that even when you call a place that has english as the default language for which you have to press nothing it will ask you "press 2 for french"
[13:28] <larsu> it's actually english now after I called again
[13:28] <desrt> even though there is no 1
[13:28] <seb128> larsu, do you need help? :-)
[13:28] <seb128> larsu, how come you are flying french?
[13:28] <seb128> they are always on strike, so "flying" might be a strong word
[13:28] <Laney> concorde
[13:28] <Laney> oh wait
[13:28] <larsu> seb128: I don't think so. Waiting in line and the roboter lady speaks English, so should be fine
[13:28] <seb128> why do you want to be grounded in FranceE?
[13:28] <desrt> Laney: nononono.  the 'e' is for England
[13:30] <Laney> concordè
[13:30] <desrt> concordə
[13:30] <Laney> çónçòrdé
[13:30]  * desrt thinks that Laney doesn't know what the ç means
[13:31]  * didrocks does note that concorde was an UK-FR project :)
[13:31] <Laney> čø...
[13:31]  * Laney goes away
[13:31]  * seb128 catches Laney and bring him back
[13:31] <didrocks> he can't escape, we are 2!
[13:32] <Laney> the power of SUPERSONIC FLIGHT will enable my escape!
[13:32] <seb128> Laney, you better surrender
[13:33] <Laney> :(
[13:34] <seb128> Laney, just wave the white flag, that's fine
[13:35] <Laney> My terms are: 1. Access to real ale as defined by CAMRA, 2. Access to climbing
[13:36] <rickspencer3> seb128, Laney, etc... how's the Unity 8/Mir image coming along?
[13:36] <seb128> rickspencer3, it's there and working
[13:37] <seb128> "working"
[13:37] <rickspencer3> seb128, I'll try it next week!
[13:37] <seb128> not really usable
[13:37] <rickspencer3> seb128, what is keeping it from being usable?
[13:37] <seb128> but that's the state of those component from upstream
[13:37] <larsu> seb128: not for me :) Faina is in Paris with some of her students and they forgot to specify luggage. The website won't let me add it
[13:37] <larsu> seb128: now I'm in a call with them and she doesn't seem to be able to either
[13:37] <seb128> larsu, oh, ok
[13:37] <seb128> bah
[13:37] <larsu> seb128: thanks for offering help :)
[13:38] <larsu> she speaks english and understands if
[13:38] <larsu> I
[13:38] <larsu> speak
[13:38] <larsu> very
[13:38] <larsu> slowly
[13:38] <seb128> rickspencer3, the webbrowser segfault on start, clicks don't run because qmlscene default to qt4 by default
[13:38] <seb128> -by default
[13:39] <seb128> (I emailed ubuntu-devel@ about the best way to resolve that, no real outcome yet though)
[13:39] <rickspencer3> seb128, oh, sounds like some work to do :)
[13:39] <seb128> rickspencer3, then bugs and missing wm
[13:39] <seb128> larsu, just speak french, it's going to be easier
[13:39] <seb128> larsu, keep saying "je ne sais pas"
[13:39] <larsu> haha
[13:39] <Laney> it does install and run though, if you have the right hardware
[13:39] <larsu> now she's going on the website herself
[13:40] <seb128> lol
[13:40] <larsu> "you can't add it on the website, neither can you cancel the checkin"
[13:40] <larsu> "yes I can, I'll do it!"
[13:40] <larsu> "oh, it doesn't work... hm"
[13:41] <seb128> french quality (tm)
[13:41] <larsu> :/
[13:49] <GunnarHj> Hi pitti
[14:28] <pitti> hey GunnarHj, how are you?
[14:32] <GunnarHj> pitti: Fine, hope you are too.
[14:32] <GunnarHj> pitti: New langpack update round soon.
[14:32] <GunnarHj> pitti: ubuntu-docs was built yesterday for trusty-proposed. Are with that the updated localized pages available when building the language-pack-gnome-xx-base packages, or does it need to be moved to -updates first?
[14:32] <pitti> GunnarHj: I am, yes, thanks
[14:33] <pitti> GunnarHj: no, being built is enough; but we need to manually trigger a -base refresh, it doesn't happen via cron
[14:34] <GunnarHj> pitti: Can you do that? Next testing period starts July 10.
[14:34] <pitti> GunnarHj: I disabled the automatic cronjob and requested a full export on https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+language-packs
[14:34] <pitti> GunnarHj: once that lands, I'll build and upload
[14:35] <pitti> GunnarHj: the next regular build would be on July 7, so that fits
[14:35] <GunnarHj> pitti: Great; thanks for letting me know.
[14:59] <Laney> mvo: yo
[14:59] <Laney> how does apt decide when to download Translation-*?
[14:59] <Laney> E: Encountered a section with no Package: header
[14:59] <Laney> E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/repository.spotify.com_dists_stable_non-free_i18n_Translation-en
[14:59] <Laney> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[14:59] <Laney> laney@iota>                                                                                ~
[14:59] <Laney> laney@iota> head -2 /var/lib/apt/lists/repository.spotify.com_dists_stable_non-free_i18n_Translation-en                                    ~
[14:59] <Laney> <!DOCTYPE html>
[14:59] <Laney> <html lang="en" xmlns:og="http://ogp.me/ns#" xmlns:fb="https://www.facebook.com/2008/fbml" class="" >
[15:00] <Laney> I don't see this under http://repository.spotify.com/dists/stable/ though
[15:00]  * seb128 hands a pastebin to Laney
[15:00]  * Laney gets crushed
[15:01] <mvo> Laney: hm, that rings a bell
[15:01] <mvo> Laney: I'm in a meeting right now, could you ping me again so that I can find the bugnumber?
[15:02] <Laney> okay
[15:12] <seb128> Laney, let me know when you test u-s-s so I can land it ;-)
[15:16] <Laney> new icons...
[15:19] <mvo> Laney: hm, can you give me your sources.list so that I can  reproduce?
[15:19] <Laney> mvo: deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free
[15:20] <Laney> seb128: -1 :(
[15:20] <Laney> update-uis-tweaks adds a visible: false which is a duplicate
[15:20] <Laney> makes the page not load
[15:20] <seb128> :-(
[15:20] <seb128> how did that happen?
[15:21] <mvo> thanks Laney
[15:22] <seb128> Laney, thanks, fixing that
[15:25] <seb128> Laney, can you delete that line manually and try again?
[15:26] <Laney> seb128: yeah, I did
[15:26] <seb128> Laney, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/update-uis-tweaks/revision/751
[15:26] <Laney> line 264 in system-update/PageComponent.qml
[15:26] <didrocks> mvo: and an apt question for you!
[15:27] <didrocks> mvo: on my amd64, if I do apt.Cache()["libncurses5:amd64"], it returns the expected package
[15:27] <mvo> Laney: hm, can't reproduce :/
[15:28] <didrocks> however, for seb128, on i386, apt.Cache()["libncurses5:i386"] is a fail (not in cache)
[15:28] <Laney> mvo: maybe they fixed it, lemme update
[15:28] <didrocks> where it works on my amd64 if I add the multi-arch thingy
[15:28] <mvo> didrocks: right, seb has no multiarch system
[15:28] <mvo> didrocks: that is expected (but I do understand that its a bit unexpected)
[15:29] <didrocks> the unexpected is expected :p
[15:29] <mvo> didrocks: in both cases the "short" name with out the ":" will work
[15:29] <Laney> mvo: try with en_GB if you can
[15:29] <Laney> or at least some kind of en
[15:29] <didrocks> mvo: any way to detect that it's not a no multiarch system?
[15:29] <didrocks> is it like dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
[15:29] <didrocks> returns nothing?
[15:29] <didrocks> and so not multiarch
[15:30] <seb128> mvo, what is expected? that seb lives in the past and has i386? ;-)
[15:31] <mvo> didrocks: yes, check doc/examples/architecture.py
[15:31] <mvo> didrocks: hm, well, or use apt_pkg.get_architectures()
[15:32] <mvo> didrocks: i.e. python -c 'import apt; print(apt.apt_pkg.get_architectures())'
[15:32] <didrocks> mvo: yeah, that's what I'm using already, I was just expecting though that :current-arch would work as on my amd64 :)
[15:32] <mvo> didrocks: I guess we could make it do that, it, it just wasn't on the radar
[15:32] <mvo> seb128: *cough*
[15:32] <mvo> Laney: hm, ok, let me try harder
[15:33] <seb128> mvo, jaja, wait for tomorrow
[15:33] <didrocks> mvo: I think it would make sense, I'll probably propose something… :)
[15:33]  * didrocks adds a TODO and strip for now
[15:33] <mvo> seb128: aha, TGIF, right?
[15:34]  * Laney watched didrocks strip
[15:34] <seb128> mvo, yeah, and Germany vs France
[15:34] <Laney> s/ed/es/
[15:34] <didrocks> Laney: sure sure, you will be disappointed :p
[15:34] <davmor2> seb128: Man that must be a Tough match for a German like you to watch right /me ducks quick
[15:35] <seb128> davmor2, you mean one I can be on the winning side whatever team wins? ;-)
[15:35] <davmor2> seb128: Or the Loser either way
[15:36] <seb128> heh, it's not friday yet, stop the trolling! ;-)
[15:36] <mvo> seb128: aha, its the worldcup
[15:36] <seb128> mvo, you forgot, right?
[15:36] <mvo> seb128: yeah, what side are you on actually?
[15:36] <seb128> mvo, not credible
[15:36] <seb128> mvo, France this time ;-)
[15:36] <davmor2> seb128: Yes mvo was too busy watching Cricket and Tennis
[15:37] <mvo> davmor2: haha, indeed
[15:40] <mvo> Laney: \o/ can reproduce
[15:40] <mvo> Laney: needed to add the key
[15:41] <Laney> mvo: a-ha!
[15:41] <Laney> I tried to get the file using my browser but failed miserably
[15:45] <mvo> Laney: as a workaround you can use -o Acquire::Languages=none
[15:53] <mvo> Laney: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7742494/ <- that should fix it
[15:53] <Laney> mvo: Nice. The diff on its own isn't very enlightening though. :)
[15:54] <Laney> are you just turning off the check?
[15:54] <mvo> Laney: I tun it on :)
[15:54] <mvo> Laney: its a multitude of issues actually :/
[15:56] <seb128> Laney, u-s-s looking good without that line?
[15:56] <Laney> is it built?
[16:04] <Laney> still building, just finished
[16:08] <seb128> k
[16:09] <seb128> I'm afaik for a bit but going to read scrollback when I'm back and publish if testing is not pointing new issues
[16:09] <seb128> bbiab
[16:20] <Laney> seb128: looks okay to me now ;-)
[16:21] <mvo> Laney: fix pushed into git, should be part of the next upload
[16:21] <Laney> mvo: nice
[16:21] <mvo> Laney: probably worth a sru as well
[16:21] <Laney> do you think it's worth doing sooner?
[16:21]  * mvo makes a note
[16:22] <Laney> feels like everyone using spotify's repo will hit this
[16:22] <mvo> Laney: my actual fix looks a bit different, but yeah, feel free to uplaod the latest git commit on top of apt (after you verified it of course :)
[16:22]  * mvo really needs to leave for dinner now
[16:22] <mvo> Laney: and thanks for the notificaiton about the issue!
[16:24] <Laney> np, thanks for the fix!
[16:37] <chrisccoulson> seb128, https://launchpad.net/~phablet-team/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/4272274/+listing-archive-extra ;)
[16:37] <chrisccoulson> (has unity 8 desktop fixes in)
[16:52] <seb128> Laney, thanks
[16:52] <seb128> chrisccoulson, \o/