[01:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: golang-1.13 (xenial-proposed/universe) [1.13.8-1ubuntu1~16.04.2 => 1.13.8-1ubuntu1~16.04.3] (no packageset)
[05:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-github-alecthomas-chroma [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [0.8.2-2] (no packageset)
[05:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-github-alecthomas-chroma [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [0.8.2-2] (no packageset)
[05:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-github-alecthomas-chroma [s390x] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [0.8.2-2] (no packageset)
[05:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-github-alecthomas-chroma [arm64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [0.8.2-2] (no packageset)
[05:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-github-alecthomas-chroma [armhf] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [0.8.2-2] (no packageset)
[05:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: golang-github-alecthomas-chroma [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [0.8.2-2] (no packageset)
[07:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Base ppc64el [Focal <IP_ADDRESS>] (20210208) has been added
[07:56] <sigv> sergiodj: Good morning from Europe - looks like my SRU did not get pushed yesterday afternoon. Guessing your additional SRU is still in the works. Today a better day?
[08:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-alecthomas-chroma [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [0.8.2-2]
[08:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-alecthomas-chroma [armhf] (hirsute-proposed) [0.8.2-2]
[08:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-alecthomas-chroma [riscv64] (hirsute-proposed) [0.8.2-2]
[08:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-alecthomas-chroma [arm64] (hirsute-proposed) [0.8.2-2]
[08:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-alecthomas-chroma [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [0.8.2-2]
[08:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted golang-github-alecthomas-chroma [ppc64el] (hirsute-proposed) [0.8.2-2]
[10:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: emscripten [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/universe) [2.0.12~dfsg-1ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[12:21] <juliank> ⚠ wiki.ubuntu.com will be offline shortly for brief hardware maintenance
[12:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-gcp [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [5.8.0-1023.24]
[12:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-kvm [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [5.8.0-1019.21]
[12:35] <Laney> sil2100: I guess we're mainly waiting for iso testing now?
[12:47] <juliank> wiki is back
[12:52] <sil2100> Laney: yeah, as much testing as possible
[12:53] <sil2100> Already poked jibel and did some testing too
[12:58] <jibel> Laney, we cannot cover oem stuff more than you can. I can only test in VMs
[12:58] <jibel> s/we/I
[12:59] <Laney> yeah
[12:59] <Laney> timing is pretty bad for that
[13:24] <sil2100> Yeah
[13:30] <rbalint> Laney, how did the systemd tests go?
[13:30] <coreycb> sil2100: hello, if you have any sru cycles, we'd like to see if we can get cinder (bionic->groovy unapproved queues) reviewed.
[13:31] <Laney> ongoing
[13:31] <Laney> rbalint: I'm running a few times, it still seems flaky to me on m1.large though, but wait a bit
[13:32] <rbalint> Laney, flaky sounds better, it has been failing pretty consistently :-
[14:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-azure [amd64] (groovy-proposed/main) [5.8.0-1023.25] (core, kernel)
[14:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-oracle [amd64] (groovy-proposed/main) [5.8.0-1021.22] (core, kernel)
[14:11] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-azure-4.15 [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-1108.120] (no packageset)
[14:25]  * sil2100 runs some test installs of flavors
[14:46] <Laney> rbalint: umm
[14:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-azure [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [5.8.0-1023.25]
[14:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-oracle [amd64] (groovy-proposed) [5.8.0-1021.22]
[14:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-azure-4.15 [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [4.15.0-1108.120]
[14:54] <sergiodj> sigv: hey, yeah, I'm finishing the tests here, since I'm joining 2 SRUs in the same upload.  but it should be done today
[14:55] <sigv> sergiodj: awesome - depending on the time they get uploaded, should be able to do verification either today or tomorrow.
[14:56] <sergiodj> sigv: the upload is the first step, then it will depend on how long it will take for the SRU team to process it, and then you can do the verification.  so maybe it'll take a few days :)
[14:56] <sigv> sergiodj: oh, ohh. got it - well, will do verification.. in the near future then :)
[14:56] <sergiodj> sigv: awesome :)
[14:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cinnamon-screensaver (focal-proposed/universe) [4.4.1-3 => 4.4.1-3ubuntu0.1] (no packageset)
[14:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cinnamon-screensaver (groovy-proposed/universe) [4.6.0-2 => 4.6.0-2ubuntu0.1] (no packageset)
[14:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cinnamon (focal-proposed/universe) [4.4.8-4ubuntu0.1 => 4.4.8-4ubuntu0.2] (no packageset)
[14:59] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: cinnamon (groovy-proposed/universe) [4.6.7-1ubuntu1 => 4.6.7-1ubuntu1.1] (no packageset)
[15:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: wireguard-linux-compat (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.0.20201112-1~18.04.1 => 1.0.20201112-1~18.04.2] (kernel-dkms)
[15:18] <sil2100> Laney, jibel: did any of you manage to run some more testing on at least some mocked OEM-enabled devices? I'm doing a quick sanity run of studio now
[15:21] <Laney> sil2100: I did a bunch yeah, didn't find any problems but I don't feel like they are too much like real systems without faking other bits too
[15:21] <Laney> and I have one real XPS certified system that I installed in various ways too
[15:21] <Laney> that's non nvidia though
[15:22] <Laney> maybe I should have followed the ISO tracker testcases and I could have logged results, sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrryyyyy
[15:28] <jibel> sil2100, not more than I already did this morning and make sense to run in VMs.
[15:29] <sil2100> Laney: we'll work in the nearest time on adding some OEM presence to the isotracker, might make things easier
[15:29] <sil2100> jibel, Laney: thanks
[15:29] <sil2100> I guess there's only this much we can do now
[15:29] <sil2100> I'll poke the flavors for status updates and I guess that's it
[15:29] <Laney> We could ask the original reporter to re-verify I guess
[15:31] <Laney> although they probably don't want to reinstall their system after spending 2 days fixing it ¬_¬
[15:31] <Laney> ok scratch that idea
[15:34] <jibel> sil2100, it'd be better to add tests to the testsuite of ubiquity.
[15:34] <jibel> than manual tests to the tracker
[15:34] <Eickmeyer> sil2100: Doing a sanity run of Studio myself.
[15:34]  * Eickmeyer is moving, so somewhat incommunicado
[15:35] <sil2100> jibel: +1 on that, I didn't recommend that as I have no knowledge of the test suite for ubiquity, how it works and what testing it performs
[15:36] <sil2100> We anyway would like to have something on the ISO tracker for the case when certification is able to perform all the testing on real hardware
[15:37] <sil2100> Since until we have automated testing on the actual hardware, we'll still need cert to do manual testing on those, since the VM mocks are just like a sanity test
[15:43] <xnox> sil2100:  can https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/s390-tools/2.15.1-1ubuntu1 be please approved in the unapproved queue in hirsute?
[15:47] <sigv> sergiodj: did you decide whether you are doing a Bionic upload for LP: #1908065 in the end?
[15:47] <sil2100> xnox: looking
[15:47] <sergiodj> sigv: I'll talk to one of the SRU team members soon about this
[15:47] <sigv> ok
[15:47] <sil2100> xnox: done o/
[15:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted s390-tools [s390x] (hirsute-proposed) [2.15.1-1ubuntu1]
[15:49] <LocutusOfBorg> also please accept emscripten
[16:34] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Studio DVD amd64 [Focal <IP_ADDRESS>] has been marked as ready
[16:34] <Eickmeyer> sil2100: ^ I'm good with it.
[16:34] <sil2100> \o/
[16:43] <juliank> Laney: I think we talked once about adding more diskspace to autopkgtest-lxd-worker such that we can have more workers on there?
[16:43] <juliank> like cloud worker we mounted a huge thingy for additional space
[16:44] <Laney> juliank: yeah
[16:44] <Laney> you can either kill all the in progress jobs and do it now
[16:45] <Laney> or wait until it's empty ish and do it then
[16:45] <Laney> stg-proposed-migration does this automatically from the juju bundle :>
[16:45] <juliank> there are 2500 jobs in the queue still, that's why people are annoyed :)
[16:45] <juliank> because they want more armhf workers :D
[16:45] <juliank> which needs that space :)
[16:46] <Laney> well feel free to do it if you want
[16:46] <Laney> I wouldn't expect miracles though, you're just adding more to the same underlying hosts in the end
[16:46] <Laney> and e.g. network I/O is a significant factor and that is just fixed
[16:47] <Laney> until we can have multiple controllers :>
[16:48] <doko> aren't arm64 and armhf using the same underlying hosts?
[16:48] <Laney> they are
[16:49] <doko> so why is it more I/O?
[16:49] <Laney> from the controller to the systems running the tests
[16:49] <Laney> uploading and downloading the source, binaries if builds are needed
[16:49] <juliank> But like cloud worker does all other archs shouldn't it have far more I/O issues?
[16:49] <Laney> it does sometimes
[16:50] <doko> network I/O, not disk I/O for the tests itself
[16:50] <juliank> I must say I don't know how to add a second disk to the lxd-worker
[16:50] <Laney> using cinder, create a volume matching the other one
[16:50] <Laney> attach it to the instance, mount it at /tmp
[16:51] <juliank> I'll go play
[17:08] <juliank> Laney: I think it can't talk to the sockets now and restarting them doesn't help, should I just reboot the lxd-worker controller?
[17:08] <juliank> instead of figuring out what else to restart..
[17:09] <Laney> what?
[17:09] <Laney> hang on
[17:09] <juliank> I don't know the<EMAIL_ADDRESS>are all failing
[17:10] <Laney> did you break this?
[17:10] <Laney> or was it broken when you got there
[17:11] <juliank> I'm not sure
[17:12] <Laney> I see a /tmp mount
[17:12] <Laney> but I guess everything wasn't stopped before that got inserted
[17:12] <Laney> so the sockets are gone
[17:13] <juliank> But restarting the autopkgtest-lxd-socat you'd expect that to fix
[17:13] <Laney> it's probably failing in the ExecStop or something
[17:14] <Laney> just wait, let me fix it
[17:14] <Laney> stop everything, clear the underlying /tmp, mount the new one, start things back up
[17:14] <juliank> Right I stopped autopkgtest@ only I guess
[17:14] <Laney> yeah and the sockets are in /tmp
[17:14] <Laney> so you ripped them out :>
[17:19] <juliank> Laney: remotes fixed? the worker processes are still stopped, becuase I stopped them because they produced errors, but I also noticed we have too many of them
[17:19] <juliank> we have leftover workers that are not valid lxd remotes
[17:19] <juliank> that's why we get failures from them
[17:21] <Laney> juliank: I don't see them, I ran reset-failed though, maybe that zapped things
[17:21] <juliank> whee, seems good now
[17:22] <juliank> time to add more workers :D
[17:23] <Laney> hope it stops these angry people
[17:23] <Laney> maybe they could get a kitten too
[17:23] <Laney> best thing is going to be when these new machines get turned on
[17:24] <Laney> juliank: btw the wiki says you can use focal, that is lies, make sure to use bionic (get IMAGE= from the history)
[17:24] <Laney> I did fix that in the new branch too :-)
[17:28] <juliank> Laney: How many workers do we want?
[17:28] <juliank> 3, 6?
[17:28] <Laney> 2 more machines?
[17:29] <juliank> hmm that's only 16% more
[17:30] <juliank> 3 arm64 workers ~ 1 armhf lxd remote?
[17:30] <Laney> I would swap the arches there to make it make sense (to me)
[17:31] <Laney> 1 VM -> 3 concurrent tests
[17:31] <juliank> right, if I add two more armhf remotes, I need to disable 3 arm64 workers
[17:31] <juliank> is what I mean
[17:31] <Laney> oh I see
[17:32] <juliank> need to add that to the wiki
[17:32] <Laney> it's not perfect, doesn't account for large tests
[17:32] <Laney> but yeah
[17:33] <juliank> also flavor is cpu4-ram8-disk50 these days not m1.large :D
[17:34] <rbalint> ubuntu-archive i've accidentally uploaded google-osconfig-agent/20210209.00-1 with the wrong version number, could you please delete it?
[17:34] <rbalint> i'd roll it back to -0ubuntu1
[17:35] <juliank> eww ERROR: Quota exceeded for cores, instances, ram: Requested 4, 1, 8192, but already used 52, 13, 106496 of 52, 13, 106496 cores, instances, ram (HTTP 403) (Request-ID: req-c9b6c0d8-8d59-4a32-aa04-e661623f04fe)
[17:36] <juliank> I got one more lxd remote though, that's good
[17:43] <Laney> It'll probably go better if you stop the arm64 first, to free up the quota
[17:45] <juliank> Laney: i did
[17:45] <juliank> I should check again
[17:48] <juliank> they reappeared
[17:49] <juliank> or I suck at reading :D
[17:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted emscripten [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [2.0.12~dfsg-1ubuntu1]
[17:49] <juliank> we have 22 running tests
[17:49] <juliank> / instances
[17:50] <juliank> + 13 armhf nodes
[17:50] <juliank> s/nodes/lxd remote VMs/
[17:50] <juliank> Before we had 30 arm64 workers, I reduced that limit to 24
[17:53] <juliank> So yeah, I freed up 9216 MB RAM, 120GB disk, and 6 CPUs
[17:54] <juliank> And added 4 CPUs, 50GB disk, 8 GB RAM
[17:54] <juliank> So I should have free 1 GB RAM, 4 CPUs, 70 GB disk?
[17:54] <Laney> keep an eye on the slope on https://ubuntu-release.kpi.ubuntu.com/d/yIC34LpGk/ubuntu-metrics?viewPanel=4&orgId=1&from=now-7d&to=now
[17:54] <Laney> see if you made a difference!
[17:55] <juliank> Still building lxd images atm
[17:56] <juliank> Ah, but I can only have 13 instances anyway so trying to add a 14th one is futile
[18:01] <Laney> the cloud masters have decreed it
[18:01] <Laney> maybe bos01 instances would just work, not sure
[18:03] <vorlon> rbalint: google-osconfig-agent removed from -proposed
[18:07] <sil2100> jibel, Laney: just a final touch-base with you guys, do you think we go all the tests we can possibly do in the situation done for .2.0?
[18:07] <sil2100> If yes, I'll start the release in the nearest 1 hour
[18:09] <Laney> sil2100: I don't like it but I think I have done as much as I can here
[18:12] <juliank> Laney: the new lxd remote seems to be running now, juju did not automatically add the lxd remotes and worker services though, but I'm too tired to dig further
[18:12] <juliank> juju set should have enabled that automatically
[18:13] <Laney> that juju hook is flaky
[18:13] <Laney> do it manually, there's some stuff in shell history
[18:13] <Laney> ctrl-r for 'systemctl enable', you should find one for socat and one for the workers
[18:13] <juliank> I enabled them already yes
[18:13] <Laney> ok good 👍
[18:14] <Laney> did you put 3 arm64 back if you couldn't use them?
[18:14] <juliank> not yet
[18:14] <sil2100> Laney: ok, marking desktop as ready to proceed with the release
[18:15]  * Laney winces
[18:15] <Laney> I really hope this is it
[18:15] <juliank> back now
[18:16] <sil2100> I know it's stupid, but at least if it's worse than .2 we can always revert to .2
[18:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal <IP_ADDRESS>] has been marked as ready
[18:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal <IP_ADDRESS>] has been marked as ready
[18:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu MATE Desktop amd64 [Focal <IP_ADDRESS>] has been marked as ready
[18:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Budgie Desktop amd64 [Focal <IP_ADDRESS>] has been marked as ready
[18:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Focal <IP_ADDRESS>] has been marked as ready
[18:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop amd64 [Focal <IP_ADDRESS>] has been marked as ready
[18:25] <Laney> I'm not worried about it being worse particularly
[18:25] <Laney> rather finding something else like this 😬
[18:27] <sil2100> I'll wait a bit maybe, discuss a bit more with cert, meditate about it etc. etc.
[18:28] <sil2100> I can always do the publish during the night
[18:34]  * Laney releases 100 kittens into the room with sil2100
[19:02] <sil2100> The kittens have helped!
[19:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: update-manager (groovy-proposed/main) [1:20.10.4 => 1:20.10.5] (core)
[19:20] <sil2100> Ok, <IP_ADDRESS> should be out-ish
[20:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sssd (groovy-proposed/main) [2.3.1-3ubuntu3 => 2.3.1-3ubuntu4] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[20:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sssd (focal-proposed/main) [2.2.3-3ubuntu0.3 => 2.2.3-3ubuntu0.4] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[20:48] <sergiodj> sigv: everything uploaded.
[20:52] <sigv> sergiodj: thank you! Any idea what can be expected from the timeline, when these are in -proposed for verification?
[20:53] <sergiodj> sigv: it depends on the SRU team now.  perhaps someone will be able to look tomorrow; if not, I'd say early next week is a good estimate
[20:53] <sigv> sergiodj: just trying to figure out what to expect - thank you very much. hope you have a nice evening!
[20:54] <sergiodj> sigv: thank you for driving the bug until its completion!  have a great weekend as well :)
[21:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: knockd (groovy-proposed/universe) [0.7-1ubuntu3 => 0.7-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[21:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: knockd (focal-proposed/universe) [0.7-1ubuntu3 => 0.7-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[21:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: knockd (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.7-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 0.7-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[21:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: lxc (groovy-proposed/universe) [1:4.0.4-0ubuntu3 => 1:4.0.6-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-server)
[21:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: rejected lxc [source] (groovy-proposed) [1:4.0.6-0ubuntu1]
[22:01] <Laney> sil2100: thanks for taking care of this one
[22:17] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libmaxminddb/1.5.0-3/+build/21014220
[22:17] <LocutusOfBorg> please lowdown?
[22:54] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: done https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lowdown/0.8.1-1/+build/21014404
[23:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Removed gnome-icon-theme from i386-whitelist in hirsute
[23:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Removed sisu-guice from i386-whitelist in hirsute
[23:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Removed sisu-ioc from i386-whitelist in hirsute
[23:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Removed yelp-tools from i386-whitelist in hirsute
[23:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Removed yelp-xsl from i386-whitelist in hirsute
[23:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added lowdown to i386-whitelist in hirsute
[23:21] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: wiipdf (hirsute-proposed/primary) [1.4-3]
[23:23] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks!
[23:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: rust-png (hirsute-proposed/primary) [0.15.0-1]
[23:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted rust-png [sync] (hirsute-proposed) [0.15.0-1]
[23:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted wiipdf [sync] (hirsute-proposed) [1.4-3]
[23:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: bind9 (focal-proposed/main) [1:9.16.1-0ubuntu2.4 => 1:9.16.1-0ubuntu2.5] (core, i386-whitelist)


[00:11] <Ubulette> asac, please sponsor mozclient 0.04, nss & nspr and sm 1.1.8 (all branches pushed to lp, tarballs are on my site at their usual place)
[12:42] <asac> Ubulette: any regressions for existing nss/nspr depends?
[12:42] <asac> rdepends ;)
[12:45] <Ubulette> what do you mean ?
[12:46] <Ubulette> asac, ^^
[12:49] <asac> just wondered if you tested old firefox/xulrunner and evolution with the new nss installed
[12:49] <asac> i can test that too though
[12:49] <asac> (evolution with imaps or pops to trigger nss usage)
[12:51] <Ubulette> it should work. the only possible issue is SEC_StringToOID (moved from libnss3 to libnssutils3) so some packages may need a respin. not sure which ones use this symbol
[12:52] <asac> why do we split the package?
[12:52] <asac> instead of just shipping everything in libss3 ?
[12:53] <Ubulette> it's not me, nss guys introduced a whole new lib with tons of functions but only this one moved, the others are new
[12:53] <Ubulette> -this one+this symbol
[12:53] <asac> yeah ... but we could keep those in the same package, couldn't we?
[12:53] <Ubulette> it is
[12:54] <Ubulette> both are in libnss3-1d
[12:54] <asac> ok if i there is no bin NEW package then most likely fine
[12:54] <Ubulette> no NEW
[12:59] <Ubulette> asac, could you push mozclient too ?
[13:00] <asac> yeah ... i will look and upload all
[13:03] <asac> Ubulette: have you seen miro discussion on ubuntu-devel(-discuss) ?
[13:03] <Ubulette> nope
[13:03] <asac> let me look
[13:03] <asac> are you subscribed to any?
[13:04] <asac> (of the -devel lists)
[13:04] <Ubulette> no, i have enough mails already.
[13:04] <asac> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2008-February/003279.html
[13:05] <asac> is miro in archive still using xul 1.8? don't we have 1.5 somewhere?
[13:06] <asac> hmm looks like its using xulrunner-1.9
[13:06] <Ubulette> ?? it's using *your* xul1.9 patch
[13:06] <Ubulette> yes
[13:07] <asac> yeah ... couldn't remember if that was already uploaded
[13:07] <asac> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2008-February/003286.html
[13:07] <asac> claims that it crashes frequently?
[13:07] <Ubulette> it doesn't for me
[13:08]  * asac looking at bugs
[13:08] <Ubulette> someone reported a corruption since it's using xul1.9 http://geekport.com/files/mirocrop.png
[13:08] <asac> Ubulette: you don't see private crashes, do you? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/miro/
[13:11] <asac> hmmm ... miro uses xine?
[13:11] <Ubulette> yes
[13:12] <asac> thats a blocker for main/CD i guess
[13:12] <asac> i think we only have gstreamer in main
[13:14] <asac> Ubulette: i will talk to pitti how we can get you access to all private crashers
[13:16] <asac> Ubulette: can you see bug 185194 now?
[13:16] <ubotu> Bug 185194 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/185194 is private
[13:17] <Ubulette> hm, yes, with a lock at the top right
[13:17] <asac> ok ... i will subscribe mt to all current private crashers of miro for now
[13:18] <asac> the procedure for opening those up is like: review stacktrace for any sensible data ... then remvoe the CoreDump (if the retracer didn't do that yet) and open the bug
[13:18] <Ubulette> btw, i do miro trunk (aka 1.5) in my ppa, your xul1.9 patch is no longer ok
[13:19] <asac> when will 1.5 be out?
[13:19] <Ubulette> never, it's trunk. it's an always ahead version, like b4pre
[13:20] <asac> ah ... so the next is 2.0 ?
[13:20] <asac> e.g. 1.5 is dev version and final releases get full major versions?
[13:20] <Ubulette> not sure. they have only 1 branch, it could be 1.1
[13:20] <Ubulette> yes
[13:21] <asac> is 1.5 their name?
[13:21] <asac> or is it something you picked?
[13:21] <Ubulette> their name
[13:21] <asac> ok
[13:21] <asac> any ETA for next release from trunk?
[13:22] <Ubulette> 1.1 is out
[13:22] <Ubulette> even 1.1.2 for linux
[13:23] <asac> but thats not a new branch forked away from trunk recently?
[13:23] <asac> e.g. just a maintenance release for the 1.0 release
[13:25] <asac> ok i think you should see all current crashers now
[13:25] <asac> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/miro/
[13:25] <asac> most look like xine
[13:25] <Ubulette> https://develop.participatoryculture.org/trac/democracy/browser
[13:26] <Ubulette> looks flat to me. their trunk is just the dev branch, that is taggued from time to time
[13:27] <asac> strange ... but still they use a version that wouldn't fit in between the previous and next release
[13:28] <Ubulette> https://develop.participatoryculture.org/trac/democracy/browser/trunk/tv/resources/app.config.template
[13:28] <Ubulette> 1.5 is defined there
[13:29] <Ubulette> when they released, they change appVersion accordingly
[13:30] <asac> yeah ... wierd versioning scheme i would say
[13:30] <Ubulette> http://xkcd.com/149/
[13:31] <asac> hehe
[13:39] <Ubulette> i've written to google to ask for permission to ship their icons for prism-webapps
[13:39] <Ubulette> they said, expect 4 weeks for an answer
[13:40] <asac> which mail did you use?
[13:40] <Ubulette> the form online
[13:40] <Ubulette> there's no email, except press@
[13:41] <asac> maybe you should check on -devel as well
[13:41] <asac> (mail)
[13:41] <asac> for firefox we have an exception to ship a non-free icon
[13:42] <asac> no idea if we can derive a general line from it though.
[13:42] <Ubulette> i've asked on motu weeks ago, they told me to ask google
[13:42] <asac> Ubulette: yeah ... i will raise this. maybe you need to ask technical-board for a decision if its ok to include non-free images in main/universe
[13:43] <Ubulette> isn't this a different topic ?
[13:43] <Ubulette> i need both right ?
[13:43] <asac> yeah ... getting google permission is one half only
[13:44] <Ubulette> icons are already in hardy through prism, but upstream removed them from svn
[13:44] <asac> yeah ... might be a bug :)
[13:44] <asac> lets see
[13:45] <asac> i don't think i can get an answer this weekend
[13:46] <Ubulette> noone complained so far
[13:46] <asac> which doesn't imply that its ok :)
[13:46] <asac> worst case we add the icon package to multiverse (given that google grants the right to distribute those at all)
[13:57] <asac> bug 180879
[13:57] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 180879 in prism "Desktop categories may need changing" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/180879
[13:58] <Ubulette> yes
[13:58] <Ubulette> i know but webapps are no part of prism
[13:58] <Ubulette> i've created prism-webapps for that
[13:59] <Ubulette> but i'm stuck by icons
[13:59] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/prism-webapps/
[13:59] <asac> that page exists ... for whatever reason
[13:59] <asac> nothing published though
[14:00] <Ubulette> probably me, but obviously not complete
[14:00] <Ubulette> i've trashed the bzr branches for now
[14:00] <asac> ah
[14:00] <asac> any ppa package?
[14:00] <Ubulette> yes
[14:00] <asac> just wondering why that page exists
[14:01] <asac> ok ... that might be one reason
[14:01] <Ubulette> http://ppa.launchpad.net/fta/ubuntu/pool/main/p/prism-webapps/
[14:02] <asac> k
[14:03] <Ubulette> I need to move the other webapps in there but because of the prism version, i'll have to bump mine
[14:03] <Ubulette> or use an epoch
[14:05] <asac> you could just use PRISM_VERSION+split as upstream version if you don't want to go epoch i guess
[14:06] <Ubulette> ?
[14:06] <Ubulette> prism is 0.8+, prism-webapps is 0.01 so either I do 1:0.01 or start at 1.00
[14:07] <Ubulette> bahh http://paste.ubuntu.com/4373/
[14:07] <asac> why can't you use 0.01?
[14:08] <asac> what has happened to mozsetup.py?
[14:09] <Ubulette> prism-google-reader | 0.8+svn20071115r8030-0ubuntu1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/universe Packages
[14:09] <asac> ah
[14:09] <asac> go epoch then i guess
[14:10] <Ubulette> i really need to update prism as xul dropped support for xpm a while ago
[14:10] <asac> is that intentional?
[14:10] <asac> i mean why would they drop xpm?
[14:11] <asac> (or just for the window icon?)
[14:11] <Ubulette> they obsoleted xpm and prefer png now
[14:11] <asac> yeah ... thats fine. but still xpm support should be avail
[14:12] <asac> maybe its a build-option to reenable?
[14:13] <asac> hmm ffox really doesn't open xpm images anymore
[14:13] <Ubulette> mozilla bug 410215
[14:13] <ubotu> Mozilla bug 410215 in Widget: Gtk "GTK's .xpm decoding is weird, stop using XPM as the default window icon" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=410215
[14:13] <Ubulette> http://kazehakase.sourceforge.jp/?date=20080129  "supported xulrunner 1.9 detection"
[14:14] <Ubulette> we should do that at some point: http://beuno.com.ar/archives/48
[14:16] <asac> yeah ... imo we should wait a bit. not all distros may have 1.0 bzr yet
[14:17] <asac> and our branches are not that huge after all :)
[14:17] <asac> but the new format rocks for sure
[14:17] <asac> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~asac/firefox/mozilla.apps.1.8.0
[14:17] <asac> that wasn't possible at all with the old format. the new works almost as fast as git
[14:18] <Ubulette> what is this branch for ?
[14:18] <asac> all security backports we carry - that will land soon in mozilla CVS
[14:19] <Ubulette> manual or scripted ?
[14:19] <asac> for 1.5 branch
[14:19] <asac> the upstream landing?
[14:19] <Ubulette> no, this bzr branch
[14:20] <asac> well ... upstream cvs doesn't receive any checkins atm :) ... so manual, yes.
[14:20] <Ubulette> waa
[14:23] <Ubulette> damn, this miro xul patch is a pain to update
[14:23] <asac> the conflicts didn't look that hard
[14:23] <asac> whats the problem?
[14:24] <Ubulette> context is too big so large chunks are rejected, almost everything
[14:24] <asac> ah ok ...  i am used to that ;)
[14:24] <Ubulette> and every few days, it fails again
[14:24] <asac> you can split hunks in emacs quite easily
[14:25] <asac> lets get that patch to a reasonable state and submit it upstream i guess;)
[14:44] <Ubulette> hmm, miro ftbfs, i don't know why
[14:45] <Ubulette> http://paste.ubuntu.com/4375/
[14:47] <asac> AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'uname'
[14:48] <asac> is that due to xul 1.9 patch?
[14:49] <Ubulette> nope
[14:50] <Ubulette>   File "/usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages/Pyrex/Compiler/Scanning.py", line 190, in initial_compile_time_env
[14:50] <Ubulette>     for name, value in zip(names, platform.uname()):
[14:50] <Ubulette> it seems it's an error in python, not in miro
[14:52] <Ubulette> in python-pyrex
[14:57] <asac> maybe uname has been moved to somewhere else?
[14:57] <Ubulette> it's in os, but they used platform
[14:59] <Ubulette> it seems to work if i change it to os.uname()
[14:59] <asac> strange
[15:12] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/pyrex/<IP_ADDRESS>-1
[15:12] <asac> that upload?
[15:16] <Ubulette>      pyrex |  <IP_ADDRESS>-1 | http://archive.ubuntu.com hardy/main Sources
[15:16] <Ubulette> yes
[15:16] <Ubulette> but in cli, it works
[15:17] <asac> what works in cli?
[15:17] <Ubulette> >>> import platform
[15:17] <Ubulette> >>> platform.uname()
[15:17] <Ubulette> ('Linux', 'ix', '2.6.24-5-generic', '#1 SMP Thu Jan 24 19:45:21 UTC 2008', 'i686', '')
[15:17] <asac> platform.uname()?
[15:18] <asac> sure you are running py2.5?
[15:18] <Ubulette> and pyrex does just that
[15:19] <asac> hmm ... no idea without looking
[15:19] <asac> maybe platform isn't imported?
[15:22] <Ubulette> I think it is, at least there's an import at the top
[15:24] <Ubulette> get https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~fta/democracy/miro.trunk   #47, use debian/rules get-current-source
[15:24] <Ubulette> for me it fails with http://paste.ubuntu.com/4375/
[15:25] <Ubulette> i have to run, i'll be back in 2~3h
[15:28] <asac> cu
[18:13] <Ubulette> back
[18:14] <Ubulette> asac, did you up something ?
[18:14] <Ubulette> you said midi ;)
[18:30] <Ubulette> asac, did you try miro ?


[22:02] <elichai2> i mean i found this commands and i want to know if it won't remove anything not-related to unity: http://blogs.operationaldynamics.com/paul/opensource/not-unified-removing-unity-from-ubuntu-12-04-lts#the-actual-juice
[22:02] <jirido> hitsujiTMO:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6881769/ you are effective like a helping mashine!
[22:03] <ikonia> elichai2: just leave the files in place if you're in any doubt
[22:03] <ikonia> elichai2: it's not doing any harm, you're not dead on disk space, and even if you are, removing this won't remove that much
[22:03] <ikonia> so look at saving space elsewhere
[22:05] <elichai2> ikonia, i'm not feeling good with having packages that i don't need :(
[22:05] <ikonia> why ?
[22:05] <ikonia> what is the problem ?
[22:06] <jirido> ikonia: maybe elichai2 has digital anorexia
[22:06] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: ok, the xorg suggests 2 possible causes for the error, you've a custom resolution set in xorg.conf that it cannot support, or its defaulting to an odd resolution that it cannot support as it cant read the monitors edid data.
[22:06] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:07] <elichai2> jirido, thats it :) i like my system clean
[22:07] <ikonia> it is clean
[22:07] <ikonia> a package you are not using does not make it "dirty"
[22:07] <elichai2> yes but i'm feeling like i have "Ask" and "Bing" programs in windows
[22:08] <ikonia> then you are feeling wrong
[22:08] <ikonia> and need to get over it
[22:09] <swatson> Lol
[22:09] <raving> \quit
[22:09] <raving> \exit
[22:09] <raving> \part
[22:09] <achpile> Hi all =) Does anybody know, how to specify folder which dropbox uses to store screenshots?
[22:09] <ubuntuaddicted> confused on how to install the guest additions for vbox. do i run the iso in my host OR within the vm after it's fired up?
[22:10] <hitsujiTMO> /quit raving
[22:10] <Jordan_U> elichai2: First, 1: I agree that having extra packages doesn't really hurt anything 2: This guide has not been updated for 13.10 and thus will be problematic if you're using 13.10 3: Please read the preface to this guide completely. All that said, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntucat/tag/pure-lubuntu/
[22:10] <swatson> I actually know how elichai2  feels
[22:10] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: in the guest
[22:10] <ikonia> hence "guest additionas"
[22:10] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, ok thanks for clarifying.
[22:10] <swatson> I dont like having a ton of packages I dont use on my system.
[22:10] <swatson> Keep it clean and neat.
[22:11] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, well, the host has a guest on it so I wasn't sure if installing the guest additions on the host allowed the guest extra capabilities
[22:11] <ikonia> again, it's not "drity" or "messy"
[22:11] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: I see your confusion
[22:11] <emx> i get these kinds of errors lately without changing any configuration. the messages appear in the console when playing a film with mplayer: [   vdpau] Error when calling vdp_output_surface_destroy: An invalid handle value was provided.
[22:11] <emx> any help?
[22:11] <elichai2> Jordan_U, thats the thing, i thought about installing debian+lxde but then i realized that maybe it won't give me much more than just installing lxde without reinstall the distro (and messing with all my data)
[22:12] <ikonia> elichai2: how can you say that, I said "install lubuntu" and you said "no as you don't want to restore" - so why is it ok to do debian + lxde ?
[22:12] <ikonia> it's a moving target
[22:12] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: My screens real resolution is 1366x768 but it never comes up as an option.. Then for some reason it started to mix in 1024x something.. and nvidia settings started to not work anymore.. and now i cant log in!! crazy..
[22:12] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, now all of a sudden only the clicking the middle mouse button acts like the clicking the left. lol
[22:13] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, i don't know what i pressed to accidentally do this
[22:13] <Jordan_U> ikonia: As implied by their last comment, re-installing is not preffered in either case as it requires "messing with all my data".
[22:13] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6881819/ this is for 1xorg.conf as i moved it to some reboot ago.. as i thought it would help
[22:13] <ikonia> Jordan_U: right, but then blindly removing packages and hoping for the best is not really a good option
[22:13] <elichai2> ikonia, in start i thought to install debian+lxde but then i realized it won't really help to speed up my laptop so i gave up on it (because i don't want to start messing with restoring)
[22:14] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: just because.. yes to get rid of this settings
[22:14] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: you need to have an xorg.conf for nvidia. if you moved it set a new one with: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[22:15] <k1l> elichai2: seems you got alot of microsoft windows habbits there when you think not used packages slow the system down and that Filesystems need to be defraged
[22:15] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, now pressing any mouse button doesn't do anything within the VM
[22:15] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: why are you telling me?
[22:15] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, i'm asking how to enable mouse again in my VM guest
[22:15] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: I have no idea what you've done, or how you have it configured.
[22:16] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, it's virtualbox from the oracle website. all default
[22:16] <Jordan_U> elichai2: You can re-install while preserving the contents of /home/, which for most users contains all of their important data.
[22:16] <monst> Hello, anyone experienced in multipath setup? Having issues getting my links all under the same policy.
[22:16] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: so thats' not from the ubuntu repos
[22:16] <ikonia> ubuntuaddicted: so I have no idea how YOU have configurd it
[22:16] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: this is the new one.. should i reboot? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6881839/
[22:16] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, is there a way to tell if it's frozen
[22:16] <elichai2> Jordan_U, but i got it all in the same partition
[22:16] <ikonia> monst: sure thing, what's up
[22:16] <ubuntuaddicted> ikonia, oh ok
[22:16] <k1l> elichai2: install lubuntu-desktop package. after that you can remove unity, but be aware that some depencies could be remeoved that will make trouble
[22:16] <Jordan_U> elichai2: Ubuntu's installer supports preserving /home/ even when it's not on a separate partition.
[22:16] <monst> awesome ikonia, let me pastbin
[22:16] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: yup reboot, then we'll try and fix the resolution
[22:17] <jirido> hitsujiTMO:  did i have the right nvidia drivers installed
[22:17] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: yup
[22:17] <jirido> !!
[22:17] <jirido> rebooot
[22:17] <monst> ikonia: http://paste.openstack.org/raw/62678/
[22:18] <ikonia> monst: what's the problem there ?
[22:18] <monst> so it seems to have my 4 paths in different policies instead of just one
[22:18] <monst> http://pastebin.com/ywXDnYXd
[22:18] <ikonia> monst: the policy looks the same, "round-robin 0"
[22:19] <monst> Basically it doesn't round robin between the links
[22:19] <monst> i only see throughput down one link
[22:19] <ikonia> monst: looks like it is
[22:19] <ikonia> monst: how are yo umonitoring it ?
[22:19] <monst> new relic
[22:19] <ikonia> monst: you only appear to have one link marked as active though
[22:19] <Douhan> Can someone help me, I added a PPA to sources.list but apt-get still can't find the items in that repo
[22:19] <ikonia> the others are enabled but not active
[22:20] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: what repo?
[22:20] <monst> ikonia: we just got it working..!
[22:20] <Douhan> I tried adding the PPA to the sources.list.d directory
[22:20] <ikonia> monst: how ?
[22:20] <Douhan> https://launchpad.net/~ondrej/+archive/php5?field.series_filter=precise
[22:20] <ikonia> monst: what did you change ?
[22:20] <monst> now it looks like this
[22:20] <monst> http://paste.openstack.org/show/62679/
[22:20] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: did you apt-grt update first?
[22:20] <monst> which is under one plociy
[22:20] <Douhan> Yes I did many times
[22:21] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: can you pastebin the output of: sudo apt-get update
[22:21] <demophobia> How do I swap entire workspaces, like move 4 to 1 and 1 to 4?
[22:21] <k1l> Douhan: use add-apt-repository
[22:21] <Douhan> When I do "apt-cache showpkg php-apcu" I get: "N: Unable to locate package php-apcu"
[22:21] <ikonia> monst: that paste isn't loading
[22:21] <demophobia> or can i only drop windows within workspaces?
[22:21] <k1l> Douhan: did you run a apt-get update?
[22:21] <ikonia> monst: ahh loaded now
[22:21] <Douhan> k1l: I used this command: "add-apt-repository ppa:ondrej/php5" then I did "apt-get update"
[22:21] <monst> see how there under one policy?
[22:21] <ikonia> monst: I think there is confusing wording here
[22:21] <monst> we had to reconfigure twice to get it to take
[22:21] <Douhan> Ok wait I'll add it pastebin
[22:22] <ikonia> monst: you had them under one policy before, however you actually wanted them in the same policy group
[22:22] <ikonia> and now they are all active
[22:22] <ikonia> which is good
[22:23] <demophobia> In Mac one can rearrange the entire workspace, like moving boxes around. Can that be done in Ubuntu, or can I only move their contents and select which one to view?
[22:23] <monst> Ah yes!
[22:23] <monst> bad wording on my part
[22:23] <monst> starting throughput testing again
[22:23] <ikonia> monst: not a problem, I see what you actually meant as soon as I saw the others where not active, only enabled
[22:24] <elichai2> ok i've found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6302/how-can-you-remove-unity and i just runned the 12.04 command
[22:24] <Douhan> k1l: hitsujiTMO Here http://pastebin.com/gHdU3Tp1
[22:24] <swatson> demophobia: I would recommend looking at a tiling window manager like awesome, dwm, or i3 -- this might have what you are looking for and more
[22:26] <Douhan> Btw I'm logged in as root
[22:26] <snardbafulador> feces
[22:26] <Douhan> so no need for sudo
[22:26] <snardbafulador> caca
[22:26] <snardbafulador> mierda
[22:26] <snardbafulador> shit
[22:26] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: Here i am again.. the driver seem to load ok my both screens are there.. but they were before also.. The reason i wanted to install the new drivers were that after i used jockey-gtk to remove nvidias drivers(that were obviously not done) and installed the "recomended) i could not login to my desktop.. So all this with trying to install nvidia 33 304 purge 304 purge 173 and so on has been a atempt to get in to my desktop..
[22:26] <snardbafulador> sscheisse
[22:26] <snardbafulador> heces fecales
[22:27] <demophobia> thank you. i suppose in the meantime i may try to adjust to "fixed workspaces" ...
[22:27] <snardbafulador> la cagalera
[22:27] <snardbafulador> cerotes
[22:27] <xerror> hi all :-) which one to pic as livecd/usb : aplha2 or dailybuilt 14.04 ?
[22:28] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: It started with that i when asked for help in #lubuntu when nvidia settings did not start got the advice to remove nvidia drivers..
[22:28] <zeeshan> hitsujiTMO: thanks for your help
[22:28] <zeeshan> hitsujiTMO: changing to the nvidia driver fixed the freezes
[22:28] <hitsujiTMO> zeeshan: np
[22:29] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: are you able to get onto the desktop now?
[22:29] <jirido> no. only to the console
[22:30] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: does lightdm or whatever dm come up?
[22:30] <Bashing-om> xerror: Version 14.04 is still in testing, and not released to this time. If you have to ask that, perhaps better if you remain with a current version ?
[22:31] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: yes i get to the login where i can choose from dm's and user and so on
[22:31] <crinkle> I'm having trouble with dual displays. I have a desktop with an nvidia graphics card. The display is mirroring on both monitors, but the resolution is wrong in the wider monitor. The Displays dialog claims there is only one monitor and that it is a "Laptop". The Detect Displays button does nothing, and the Mirror displays checkbox is grayed out and unchecked.
[22:31] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: but when you login it kicks you back to the login screen?
[22:31] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: but it is no diference what dm.. Yes right!
[22:31] <xerror> Bashing-om: thank you, but i just want to test a particular part, the cardreader of a netxtreme chip, the newer woukld v be the better.
[22:32] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: ok: first try: sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[22:32] <jirido> My .xsession-errors were 650000 rows :) so i deleted it
[22:32] <Bashing-om> xerror: the "dailybuild" is what is current and being examined.
[22:33] <Douhan> hitsuji can you help please?
[22:33] <xerror> Bashing-om: thank you very much ! (-:
[22:34] <Bashing-om> xerror: Best to ya, remember 14.04 is in testing, expect breakage.
[22:34] <Somelauw> Hi, to get the livecd to work, I needed to remove nomodeset. Do I still need to do that since I already got the propierty drivers installed?
[22:34] <demophobia> Do ubuntu developers hang out here to look at questions to evaluate pressing software improvements?
[22:34] <k1l> demophobia: no, file a bug
[22:34] <xerror> Bashing-om: i will, ty, have fun
[22:34] <jirido> huttan: should i substitute user with my jirido?
[22:35] <k1l> !bug | demophobia
[22:35] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list && cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | pastebinit
[22:35] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: That depends on where you used the "nomodeset" option: /etc/default/grub ??
[22:36] <nightfly> Is there any easy way to whitelist only a few Unity Smart Scopes at a system wide level?
[22:36] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: SUCSESS!
[22:37] <Douhan> hitsujiTMO: http://pastebin.com/gHdU3Tp1 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6881917/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/6881918/
[22:37] <hitsujiTMO> !yay | jirido
[22:38] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: grub.cfg
[22:38] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: most likely you ran a graphical app with sudo which forced an important file to be owned by root rather than your user. use gksudo for graphical apps
[22:38] <aclffrd> hi, i've been struggling to figure out what is causing a high load number when idle - http://paste.ubuntu.com/6881924/
[22:38] <jirido> Yes! thank you.. it is a litele wierd resolutions .. i se if i get nvidia settings up.. yes i did!
[22:39] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: That file should not be edited, will suppose that the option is present in /etc/default/grub. pastebin ->cat /etc/default/grub >- for us to see.
[22:40] <jirido>  i wanted to se film in consolle so i run sudo mplayer -vo blabla resolution 1024.. It had to be sudo to work! I tried to tell that in the beginning of my suport search.. but you know..
[22:40] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: the option appears there as well
[22:40] <jirido> hitsujiTMO:  i wanted to se film in consolle so i run sudo mplayer -vo blabla resolution 1024.. It had to be sudo to work! I tried to tell that in the beginning of my suport search.. but you know..
[22:41] <k1l> Douhan: you got 2 sources.list.d entries for that ppa?
[22:41] <Douhan> no one is .save
[22:41] <hitsujiTMO> jirido: :)
[22:41] <Douhan> one is .list other one is .list.save
[22:41] <Somelauw> but I'm really having trouble changing my resolution using glrfx and all commands like fglrxinfo are failing
[22:41] <jirido> hitsujiTMO: it was lovelu thou to se film in console
[22:41] <demophobia> Ah, such is more efficient. Thanks, k1l.
[22:41] <demophobia> G'night.
[22:41] <Douhan> apt-get ignores every file except .list
[22:41] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: yep, one may edit /etc/default/grub ( make backup first), remove that option. then -> sudo update-grub <- to take effect.
[22:42] <Douhan> k1l: http://puu.sh/6LmAJ.png
[22:43] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: reasonable that fglrx is non responsive, as "nomodeset" disables Kernel Mode Setting .
[22:43] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: not sure if nomodeset is the problem
[22:43] <Douhan> .save file is created by add-apt-repo I think
[22:43] <k1l> Douhan: ok, then i dont know why that doesnt work. can you install the package with apt-get install?
[22:43] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: I'll use the grub minimal editor to test it
[22:43] <Somelauw> I heard that options specified using grub minimal editor aren't persistent
[22:44] <Douhan> No I can't, I even tried with =version like this: "apt-get install php-apcu=4.0.2-2+debphp.org~precise+1"
[22:44] <Somelauw> so that should be completely safe
[22:44] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: what architecture is this? is this on an arm device?
[22:44] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i just got a new lenovo laptop i am trying to install ubuntu 12.04 but it is only giving me three boot options windows boot manager efi network 0 and efi network 0 what can i do?!
[22:44] <Psil0Cybin> do i change bios settings to legacy?
[22:45] <Psil0Cybin> it has a cd drive
[22:45] <Psil0Cybin> and usb drives wth
[22:45] <Douhan> This is a Linode VPS, I configured it as 64-bit
[22:45] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: What one procedure to do, is from grub boot paramaters, boot with "nomodeset" and once in the desk top, ->Additional Drivers utility to install the recommended driver (??).
[22:45] <Psil0Cybin> usb boot is enabled in bios, i am confused why i cannot actually boot from usb
[22:45] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: I already got that driver
[22:45] <Somelauw> but I'm not sure if it got enabled
[22:46] <raub> Dumb question: I create a gpg key in a box (12.04). How do I "move" it so I can use it in another vm?
[22:46] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: wget http://ppa.launchpad.net/ondrej/php5/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php-apcu/php5-apcu_4.0.2-2+debphp.org~precise+1_amd64.deb
[22:46] <Douhan> Can I get updates if I do that?
[22:47] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: wget it first at least. see if you have a propper route to the server
[22:47] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: if that "nomodeset" is still in /etc/default/grub, - did you reboot after installing the fglrx driver ? else then yeah must manually remove "nomodeset" .. what card are we talking about here ?
[22:47] <Douhan> Ok downloaded it
[22:48] <Oog_> anyone have ideas on why sendmail is outputting nothing in mail.log or mail.err even with loglevel 9 and 15...? rsyslog is running. i checked rsyslog conf it is sending mail logs to mail.log and mail.err. sendmail is running
[22:48] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: according to lspci, I'm using this driver: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[22:48] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: i did reboot
[22:48] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: Radeon hd 8670M
[22:48] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: ok, not a routing issue. apt-cache policy php5-acpu
[22:49] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: ok, not a routing issue. apt-cache policy php5-acpu | pastebinit
[22:49] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys I am trying to install ubuntu on a UEFI System and am Having trouble booting up a live CD or getting any OS instead of windows to be recognized
[22:49] <Psil0Cybin> how can I boot linux on my new lenovo.
[22:49] <Douhan> hitsujiTMO: I couldn't pastebin (it gave an error), "N: Unable to locate package php5-acpu"
[22:49] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: yuk ! Intel does not recognize that option. Edit the grub file and get rid of it !. also fglrx is an ATI product, NOT Intel ! What gives ?
[22:50] <Douhan> apt-get just doesn't see my PPA as a source :/
[22:50] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: ok: apt-cache policy php5 | pastebinit
[22:50] <k1l> Douhan: without the 5, imho
[22:51] <Douhan> hitsujiTMO: this one has the ppa: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6882027/
[22:51] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: Pastebin -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga <- so we know what your graphics situation is.
[22:51] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: i think k1l maybe right: apt-cache policy php-acpu | pastebinit
[22:52] <Douhan> php-apcu* -- it says "You are trying to send an empty document, exiting."
[22:53] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: but no error  "N: Unable to locate package php-acpu" ???
[22:53] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: https://pastee.org/n7b35
[22:53] <Somelauw> and my internet is down
[22:54] <Douhan> I tried both, they both say: N: Unable to locate package [[php-acpu/apcu]]
[22:54] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: looking at 7b35 .
[22:54] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: what's that?
[22:55] <Blanco> "Bonne soirée/nuit les gens :)"
[22:55] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: dammit, i typo'd: apt-cache policy php-apcu | pastebinit
[22:55] <Douhan> Same output hitsujiTMO
[22:55] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: ahh. ok.
[22:55] <Douhan> Is it me or this PPA is partly broken?
[22:56] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: i'd assume an error on the PPA side. Broken index or whatnot
[22:56] <Douhan> Should I report this to the owner of the PPA?
[22:57] <hitsujiTMO> Douhan: do, he should be able to verify if its an issue at his end our yours
[22:57] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: i'm gonna reboot, trying to disable nomodeset
[22:57] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: All I am seeing is Intel, show us pastebin -> sudo lshw -C display <- .
[22:58] <Douhan> Ok thanks for help
[22:58] <hitsujiTMO> Bashing-om: some of the newer nvidia are showing up under 3D instead of VGA
[22:58] <chamunks> Is there a good utility for handling multibutton mice?
[22:59] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: https://pastee.org/7xbur
[23:01] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: i'll start the reboot now, but you can leave comments by highlighting Somelauw_
[23:05] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: rebooting enabled a maximum of 32767 * 32767
[23:05] <Bashing-om>  hitsujiTMO: Thanks for watching my back, newer systems are catching me off-guard.
[23:06] <Somelauw> so disabling nomodeset did do something
[23:06] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: what's the file again to make disabling nomodeset permanent?
[23:06] <Somelauw> /etc/grub
[23:06] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys
[23:06] <hitsujiTMO> Bashing-om: np. there's always something new cropping up to get in our way :P
[23:07] <Psil0Cybin> what can i type to display my system information how much ram i have? etc?
[23:07] <hitsujiTMO> Psil0Cybin: free -m       or to see the raw hardware: sudo dmidecode
[23:09] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: Can I do GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""?
[23:10] <starrats> rumor has it that ubuntu 12-4-4 is being released tomorrow
[23:11] <aclffrd> what could be causing my high idle load problem? i have some debug info listed at http://paste.ubuntu.com/6882097/
[23:11] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: I am researching your controller, be a bit. Is there a backup file? -> ls -la /etc/default/ <-
[23:12] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: i copied the file to my home dir before modifying
[23:12] <Somelauw> But no idea how to recover, because if i mess up that file, I'll probably be unable to boot
[23:12] <starrats> whois justinS_
[23:13] <kermit> how can i make apt install things without worrying about some unrelated broken dependancies?
[23:13] <kaddi> what's the maximum amount of RAM ubuntu 64bit will recognize by default
[23:13] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: pastebin -> cat /etc/default/grub <- and let's see what is .
[23:13] <Jordan_U> kermit: What is your end goal?
[23:14] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: https://pastee.org/ftjsv
[23:16] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: That file is good as is.. do: -> sudo update-grub <- and see what results.
[23:16] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: i did
[23:17] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: and then rebooted ? what is your status now ?
[23:17] <Somelauw> but already booted using nomodeset, because i used the nano-like editor in grub
[23:17] <Somelauw> i can do another reboot to check the config file
[23:17] <Somelauw> or actually i mean no nomodeset
[23:17] <Somelauw> double negotation
[23:18] <Somelauw> negation*
[23:18] <hitsujiTMO> kaddi: 32bit is 64gb. 64bit is 16 EB
[23:18] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: and the resolut is that xrandr now shows extra resolutions
[23:19] <kaddi> hitsujiTMO: great, does it support that out of the box?
[23:19] <hitsujiTMO> kaddi: yup
[23:19] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: Yeah, let's get a freash look at things ! .. what version of ubuntu are you running ? Intel now has a driver installer for ubuntu !
[23:19] <kaddi> thanks :)
[23:19] <smeg> How would I dedicate one of the desktops in Ubuntu to display a separate organised desktop or side bar of programs of my choosing. I wish to keep the first desktop view as the anything goes desktop but for when I'm studio recording I'd like to switch to a better organised desktop. If you know what I mean.
[23:21] <Somelauw> Bashing-om: newest
[23:22] <Somelauw> now i just need to figure out how to change resolution again
[23:22] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: Check out -> http://www.webupd8.org/2013/03/intel-releases-linux-graphics-drivers.html .
[23:23] <Bashing-om> Somelauw: I must be away from the keyboard for a few minutes, I will be back.
[23:24] <basko> hello people.  I have a desktop with an nvidia graphics card. The display is mirroring on both monitors, but the resolution is wrong in the wider monitor. The Displays dialog claims there is only one monitor and that it is a "Laptop".
[23:46] <crinkle> The Detect Displays button does nothing, and the Mirror displays checkbox is grayed out and unchecked.
[23:47] <brucelee> how come i get so little snmp results when i snmpwalk after apt-get snmpd
[23:47] <brucelee> do i need to install something else to get more?
[23:47] <ikonia> have you setup the community string and mibs ?
[23:47] <Somelauw> Is it possible to run gnome-control-center without unity?
[23:47] <ikonia> should be
[23:47] <ikonia> it's gnome - not unity
[23:47] <Somelauw> because it's giving me an error each time i try to run it
[23:48] <ikonia> Somelauw: you really need to start giving DETAILS, constantly "it gives me an error" what error, where, how, what's the problem
[23:48] <Somelauw> ikonia: unity is a gnome-fork, so it's the same for me
[23:48] <ikonia> it's getting tedious to have to keep pulling info
[23:49] <ikonia> Somelauw: it's not a gnome fork
[23:49] <Somelauw> ikonia: sorry, here is the error: https://pastee.org/z6mpt
[23:50] <ikonia> Somelauw: can you show me the output of the command "id" please
[23:51] <Somelauw> ikonia: uid=1000(somelauw) gid=1000(somelauw) groups=1000(somelauw),4(adm),24(cdrom),27(sudo),30(dip),46(plugdev),112(lpadmin),124(sambashare)
[23:51] <ikonia> Somelauw: have you removed unity ?
[23:51] <Somelauw> ikonia: nope, but i'm not running it
[23:52] <ikonia> what are you running ?
[23:53] <Somelauw> ikonia: i3
[23:53] <ikonia> i3 ?
[23:53] <ikonia> what is i3 ?
[23:53] <Somelauw> ikonia: it's not gnome-related
[23:53] <ikonia> what's not gnome related
[23:53] <Somelauw> another DE/WM
[23:53] <ikonia> where did the packages come from ?
[23:54] <ikonia> are they part of the ubuntu repos ?
[23:54] <ikonia> (apologies, I'm not aware of this desktop)
[23:54] <Somelauw> ikonia: indirectly yes
[23:54] <ikonia> what do you mean indirectly
[23:54] <ikonia> are they in the ubuntu repos yes/no
[23:54] <Ben64> !info i3
[23:54] <ikonia> thank you ben
[23:55] <Ben64> but still curious of the meaning of "indirectly"
[23:55] <ikonia> so does this desktop setup the same gnome variables such as GTK and GDK parameters ?
[23:55] <Ben64> i doubt it
[23:55] <ikonia> which may explain the error if thats not setup
[23:56] <Ben64> its very barebones
[23:56] <ikonia> I'd certainly look at that then as a first point of call
[23:58] <eri_> hello
[23:59] <sudormrf> hey guys.  quick question about libreoffice writer.  I am trying to accomplish something, here is a screencap I took of me doing what I want to do with Word 2013: http://tinypic.com/r/1zwjll2/8 This feature has existed in word since 2007 and I would love to be able to duplicate this in LibreOffice.  Any of you guys know how to do it?
[23:59] <ikonia> try the libreoffice channel
[23:59] <ikonia> they should be able to clarify functionality/version easy


[21:54] <niub> o/
[21:54] <niub> I’m building an access point
[21:54] <niub> I would like to create multiple virtual interfaces
[21:54] <niub> with iw I would something along this line
[21:55] <niub> iw dev wlan0 interface add wlan0_sta type managed addr 12:34:56:78:ab:cd
[21:55] <niub> and then assign an IP address to wlan0_sta
[21:55] <niub> is it possibile to do so with netplan?


[00:15] <Bashing-om> guiverc: Still suffering a lack of asetts ?
[00:17] <guiverc> primary pc is dead yeah, but I'll try again later today...
[00:18] <guiverc> I'm planning to go shoot a pistol comp; so busy elsewhere currently
[14:27] -SwissBot:#ubuntu-news- ::OMG!Ubuntu:: Eager to Try Pop!_OS 22.10?


[05:46] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:08] <jibel> Good morning
[06:29] <jpnurmi> good morning
[06:42] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[07:02] <didrocks> good morning
[07:24] <jibel> Salut didrocks
[07:27] <didrocks> salut jibel
[07:37] <duflu> Morning oSoMoN, jibel, jpnurmi, seb128, didrocks
[07:38] <didrocks> hey duflu
[08:31] <duflu> Hi again seb128
[08:50] <ricotz> hello desktopers! :)
[08:57] <duflu> Hi ricotz
[11:56] <jbicha> good morning
[14:00] <kenvandine> seb128:  release bug triage?
[14:01] <seb128> kenvandine, hey, sure, lt's do it!
[14:01] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:02] <seb128> the list needs some tags triaging
[14:02] <seb128> bug #1794064 has patches for apparmor, great
[14:03] <seb128> bug #1967121
[14:04] <seb128>  it has several reports sounds like worth nominating?
[14:04] <kenvandine> yes
[14:04] <kenvandine> that does look annoying
[14:05] <seb128> Trevinho, ^ one for you?
[14:06] <seb128> bug #1969303
[14:06] <seb128> kenvandine, sounds like worth nominating?
[14:06] <kenvandine> yes
[14:06] <kenvandine> no more comments upstream
[14:07] <seb128> who should be assigned to it? you?
[14:07] <kenvandine> robert
[14:07] <seb128> ack
[14:08] <seb128> that's it for the j incoming
[14:08] <seb128> tracking doesn't have anything not reviewed before
[14:08] <seb128> let's try to review incoming on older series
[14:08] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ii-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:09] <seb128> that's empty now
[14:09] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:10] <seb128> no desktop either
[14:10] <seb128> are those reports buggy?
[14:10] <kenvandine> seems weird
[14:11] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-incoming-bug-tasks.html
[14:11] <seb128> empty
[14:11] <seb128> so yes, that seems buggy, I will ping bdmurray about it
[14:11] <kenvandine> bug 1966911
[14:12] <seb128> Trevinho said he was working on this one
[14:13] <seb128> it's an issue only for the tod layer I think, so not the default installation
[14:13] <seb128> but it's important for oem images yes
[14:13] <seb128> Trevinho, ^ right?
[14:15] <kenvandine> we should assign that
[14:15] <seb128> I've assigned it to Marco now
[14:15] <kenvandine> thanks
[14:16] <seb128> k, so the incoming a buggy, I pinged Brian
[14:16] <seb128> let's review the tracking for new things unassigned
[14:16] <seb128> http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[14:16] <seb128> bug #1802483
[14:16] <seb128> that's assign to Marco on other series so I did the same for focal
[14:17] <seb128> bug #1624485
[14:18] <seb128> that package is shared with foundations, also Christian added some context, doesn't seem like someone for us to own
[14:19] <seb128> bug #1882896
[14:19] <seb128> it's an oem priority request
[14:20] <seb128> I'm adding a comment there since it seems the requested changes created issues on newer serie as in bug #1967843
[14:22] <seb128> not an rls issue but bug #1962135 needs verification
[14:22] <seb128> the buglist also needs some cleanups but those don't need to be now
[14:22] <seb128> let's check quickly over http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-bb-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[14:23] <seb128> nothing that seem new or worth discussion on that one
[14:24] <seb128> kenvandine, I would suggest we stop there, giving some minutes before the next meeting unless you feel there is some other reports to discuss?
[14:24] <kenvandine> sure
[14:24] <seb128> the J list was low activity but it isn't a surprise since upgrades haven't been turned on for most users yet
[14:24] <seb128> kenvandine, thanks
[14:29] <jbicha> seb128: do you want the focal task for LP: #1952107 ? If not, I can take a look later
[14:30] <seb128> jbicha, no I don't, I've enough to do and I didn't find time to work on that, you are welcome to take over it, thanks!
[18:21] <KGB-0> gnome-control-center signed tags e080339 Jeremy Bicha upstream/42.1 * Upstream version 42.1 * https://deb.li/30lFj
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[21:17] <KGB-2> ghex upstream/latest 92e7eac Logan Rathbone src/gtkhex.c * hexwidget: Fix redraw on keyboard focus change * https://deb.li/3oA00
[21:17] <KGB-2> ghex upstream/latest 44e1d55 Andika Triwidada po/id.po * Update Indonesian translation * https://deb.li/Salz
[21:17] <KGB-2> ghex upstream/latest 14d5a56 Andika Triwidada help/id/id.po * Update Indonesian translation * https://deb.li/3zQAs
[21:17] <KGB-2> ghex upstream/latest 1c2029b Logan Rathbone NEWS data/org.gnome.GHex.appdata.xml.in.in meson.build * Update NEWS, appdata and meson.build for 42.2 * https://deb.li/3g6Iv
[21:17] <KGB-2> ghex upstream/latest f9bdd14 Jeremy Bicha (6 files in 5 dirs) * New upstream version 42.2 * https://deb.li/iOEin
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[08:47] <ozmage> hello
[08:48] <ozmage> ubuntu 16.10 is using systemd only ? now ?
[08:49] <ozmage> i can download the daily build and expect a systemd only init ?
[08:49] <ozmage> zero sysv ?
[08:50] <ozmage> im downloading now
[09:55] <ikonia> systemd has replaced sysv init and upstart a few releases ago
[09:55] <ikonia> the future is systemd, so you need to accept it
[11:19] <Testing14565> Hello! Can I ask when is 16.10 going to use the 4.6 kernel? :)
[13:22] <jamie_1> hey i am currently running on ubuntu 16.10 and i am having an issue with a package conflict between libproxy1 and libproxy1v5 any solutions for this? i have to have libproxy1
[20:39] <mjz19910> Hi