[12:12] <bkudria> nagyv: hmm,, i bet that would break lots of stuff
[12:12] <bkudria> nagyv: i think i'll just nuke my setup
[12:13] <nagyv> bkudria: not for sure, actually I just wanted to give constant name to sd? devices, and I could find out how to do it quite easily
[12:14] <bkudria> nagyv: oh, yes, that's simple
[12:16] <delight> !svn
[12:16] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[12:16] <delight> !svk
[12:16] <ubotu> svk: A Distributed Version Control System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.08-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 319 kB, installed size 1160 kB
[12:19] <nagyv> could someone help me? I like a lot the amarok cover-manager script, but wanted to place its imagemagick window below the desktop icons (I don't know if it is possible), so I set the windows attribute to be 'DEsktop", and now I can not get to the window's special properties windows.
[12:21] <hollywoodb> nagyv: System Settings -> Window Behaviour -> Specific settings
[12:26] <nagyv> hollywoodb: thx
[12:28] <delight> !wiki
[12:28] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[12:31] <amundsen> hi
[12:31] <youser> is there a way i can make my nick register automatically every time i log ontofreenode
[12:31] <amundsen> is edgy eft being more buggy than others or it just goes fine ?
[12:31] <hollywoodb> youser: depends on your client
[12:32] <youser> xcht gnome .11?
[12:32] <youser> so i need a script client?
[12:32] <hollywoodb> youser: I don't know about xchat-gnome, but you can do it with plain ol' xchat... I use Konversation myself
[12:32] <youser> i got er done
[12:33] <youser> thanks though
[12:33] <svilen> svilen is away for now
[12:33] <hollywoodb> !away | svilen_away
[12:33] <ubotu> svilen_away: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[12:36] <P-a-gman> ._.
[12:42] <TheRealCfreak> I'm having problems with Kopete .. .it says its continuosly connecting. People can message me but I can't see my buddy list ... anyone else seen this?
[12:43] <TheRealCfreak> Happens with AIM and ICQ
[12:43] <Jack1> can someon help me?login prob after edgy upgrade, gnome starts only with startx
[12:43] <Th3_Cr0up13R> is it possible to run steam on linux ? without wine?
[12:43] <Dr_willis> Th3_Cr0up13R,  i would guess thats a NO. :)
[12:44] <Jack1> it kicks me out otherwise back to the login screen
[12:44] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i been looking and all require wine
[12:45] <Dr_willis> Th3_Cr0up13R,  wine or its variants are neeede to run windows executyables under linux.. correct.
[12:45] <Dr_willis> Cedega would be the best tool for running windows games under linux.
[12:47] <TheRealCfreak> anyone else having problems with Kopete?
[12:48] <Armagguedes> i couldn't get Kopete to display on its gUI a decent fontsize
[12:48] <Tater> hey all having a problem with the kubuntu 6.10 install cd it seems to just freeze
[12:48] <zeeo> try kmess
[12:48] <Armagguedes> so i swapped it for GAIM
[12:48] <TheRealCfreak> Armagguedes: I can't get it to connect properly
[12:48] <TheRealCfreak> I might have to do that
[12:48] <yanis> what is the password of the ubuntu user when a live cd is used?
[12:48] <zeeo> try kmess its way better then gaim
[12:49] <gsuveg> re
[12:49] <gsuveg> can i sync my calendar with my z530i mobile via bluethoot ?
[12:49] <Tater> anyone know of any issues that would stop the install cd from working?  I did a check cd fromt he install menu and it says its fine so I'm at a loss for whats happening
[12:52] <Th3_Cr0up13R> Dr_willis: YES I think
[12:52] <Th3_Cr0up13R> but i thought there would be some version of steam under linux
[12:52] <Th3_Cr0up13R> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554&iTestingId=6827
[12:52] <Th3_Cr0up13R> found this
[12:52] <Th3_Cr0up13R> but it still requires wine and when i try to download it
[12:52] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i cannot open it with wine
[12:53] <Th3_Cr0up13R> probably i have to put it in the apps directory of wine
[12:55] <Th3_Cr0up13R> when i try to install it its says something about a GLC4D7.TMP not found
[12:55] <Th3_Cr0up13R> any ideas why
[12:56] <hollywoodb> Th3_Cr0up13R: do you have an exe file?
[12:56] <Th3_Cr0up13R> yes Steaminstall.exe
[12:56] <hollywoodb> Th3_Cr0up13R: alright, did you just install wine for the first time?
[12:56] <Th3_Cr0up13R> downloaded from the url above
[12:56] <Th3_Cr0up13R> yes some 1 week ago i think
[12:57] <Th3_Cr0up13R> but i run something like amule or something for a test and it worked
[12:57] <hollywoodb> Th3_Cr0up13R: alright, run 'winecfg' and make sure things look OK... then run 'wine Steaminstall.exe' ... that's it
[12:57] <Th3_Cr0up13R> it even created a folder on my start menu
[01:00] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i added application from winecfg and now i get GLC160.tmp
[01:02] <hollywoodb> Th3_Cr0up13R: how did you manage to add an app via winecfg? Its a settings dialog for devices and such
[01:04] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hollywood
[01:04] <Th3_Cr0up13R> under wincfg there is an option which says add application so
[01:04] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i added the Steaminstall.exe
[01:05] <Th3_Cr0up13R> under the application settings but it looks like it didnt work
[01:05] <Th3_Cr0up13R> its not there anymore
[01:05] <Th3_Cr0up13R> ooops, maybe that was wrong
[01:06] <Th3_Cr0up13R> also i get that my system32 directory is not accessible at the terminal when i run the winecfg
[01:08] <Th3_Cr0up13R> now i get application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded
[01:09] <Th3_Cr0up13R> any ideas what could be happening , or how could i make this run
[01:09] <Th3_Cr0up13R> what drivers do i need?
[01:11] <Dr_willis> that 'applications' thing under winecfg is just so you can for example run bubba.exe on a wine instance thats emulating win95, and foobar.exe on a winXP emulated session.
[01:11] <Dr_willis> for steam i am guessing it will want winxp.
[01:14] <hollywoodb> Th3_Cr0up13R: I guess I've never had issue with it, maybe try #winehq
[01:17] <Red_Herr1ng> BEEN A WHILE.
[01:18] <Jucato> !caps | Red_Herr1ng
[01:18] <ubotu> Red_Herr1ng: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:18] <Jucato> :P
[01:18] <Red_Herr1ng> @lart Jucato
[01:18] <dori> how do you disable the bouncing icon launch feedback?
[01:18] <dori> system wide
[01:18] <Jucato> dori: edgy or dapper?
[01:18] <dori> edgy
[01:19] <dragonfly7> Is there are way to make my cursor larger. I have a 1600*1200 monitor, but it is only a 15 inch screen, so it is hard to spot sometimes.
[01:19] <Jucato> dori: press Alt+F2, type "kcontrol", then in Appearance & Themes, look for Launch Feedback
[01:19] <Red_Herr1ng> dragonfly7: no.... really no....
[01:19] <Red_Herr1ng> so anyways
[01:19] <Red_Herr1ng> lets talk about politics
[01:19] <Red_Herr1ng> who says republicans?
[01:19] <Jucato> Red_Herr1ng: ahem :P
[01:19] <dori> Jucato: there is no Appearance & Themes, there is only Appearance and I can't find it in there
[01:20] <Red_Herr1ng> Jucato: exactly.
[01:20] <Jucato> dori: did you launch KControl, as I said?
[01:20] <Red_Herr1ng> REPUBLICANS ARE THE END OF THE WORLD!!!!
[01:20] <Jucato> dori: you're looking at System Settings. I said kcontrol
[01:20] <dragonfly7> Red_Herring: if I say Republicans will you help me?
[01:20] <dori> Jucato: bah you're right, thought they were the same
[01:20] <Hawkwind> Red_Herr1ng: Enough please
[01:20] <Red_Herr1ng> dragonfly7: no in fact the opposite
[01:20] <[Relic] > Any known problems with a nvida 5200 series AGP card and kubuntu?
[01:20] <dragonfly7> Apparently not. I am green/democratic.
[01:20] <Jucato> dori: Launch Feedback was accidentally left out. it's a bug
[01:21] <dori> Jucato: thanks
[01:21] <Red_Herr1ng> dragonfly7: i remember at one time there Was a way to change the cursor....
[01:21] <dragonfly7> So... Cursor size?
[01:21] <Red_Herr1ng> look under mouse
[01:21] <Red_Herr1ng> well course
[01:21] <dragonfly7> Ok, I will try that.
[01:21] <Red_Herr1ng> k
[01:21] <Red_Herr1ng> NEXT
[01:21] <Jucato> Red_Herr1ng: let's not get too carried away, shall we?
[01:21] <Red_Herr1ng> Jucato: fine, ill go back to -offtopic where i belong
[01:21] <Jucato> #kubuntu does have rules :P
[01:21] <Hawkwind> See ya
[01:22] <dragonfly7> Nope, its not there. I think it is in XFce, but not this.
[01:22] <cmccartney> I have an nvidia 5200 and the only way I was able to install the drivers on Dapper was to use Automatix2
[01:22] <Red_Herr1ng> dragonfly7: hrmmmm.... i say waste your time brousing around system-settigns till you find it
[01:22] <Hawkwind> cmccartney: I have the same card and have used both Dapper packages and the drivers from nvidia.com
[01:22] <lucky_> Do any of you know what graphics programs would work perfectly if I were working with doll bases
[01:22] <Red_Herr1ng> cuz i havent tinkered with that since... ohh... dapper rc3 maybe
[01:23] <Red_Herr1ng> so im pretty sure a bit has changed =d
[01:23] <[Relic] > I have a previous nvidia for the mx440 installed already so I am hoping for not too much of an update  :)
[01:23] <dragonfly7> Red_Herring: OK, I will (continue) to try that.
[01:23] <Red_Herr1ng> hehe
[01:24] <DaSkreech> tackat: Hello
[01:25] <[Relic] > off to try this card  :)
[01:25] <tackat> DaSkreech: hiu
[01:25] <DaSkreech> tackat: How are you?
[01:25] <tackat> DaSkreech: Fine. Who are you?
[01:26] <DaSkreech> This guy. I'm trying to recall why I wanted to talk to you
[01:26] <DaSkreech>  marble?
[01:26] <tackat> I'm the author of Marble, yes
[01:27] <DaSkreech> ah excellent
[01:27] <Jucato>  <DaSkreech> This guy. I'm trying to recall why I wanted to talk to you <--- hehehe :P
[01:27] <DaSkreech> :-D
[01:27] <DaSkreech> I had an idea for a few things for KDE and I was pointed at you
[01:28] <DaSkreech> Can you sum up Marble for me?
[01:28] <dragonfly7> So... Does anyone know why Superkaramba would change my resolution to 640*480 and freeze?
[01:28] <DaSkreech>  I thought it was the marble landset
[01:28] <Red_Herr1ng> witchcraft?
[01:28] <dori> is there a power management control in kubuntu/kde in edgy?
[01:29] <DaSkreech> dori: Guidance I think
[01:29] <dragonfly7> Red_Herring: Wow, you are right again. You have been so helpful.
[01:29] <campbch> hmm...
[01:29] <_matt_> dragonfly7: Why do you think it's superkaramba?
[01:29] <Jucato> kde-guidance-powermanager
[01:29] <DaSkreech> tackat: perhaps O-T or #kde ?
[01:30] <Jucato> perhaps PM? :P
[01:30] <campbch> i figured i would get around to installing edgy, and the release notes say just to gksu "update-manager -c", and i installed that, but it isn't working.
[01:30] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Naw those give me headaches
[01:30] <Jucato> bwhehe
[01:30] <dragonfly7> matt: Because I have been doing the same thing (ie: not installing anything, same apps) for maybe 30 reboots. Then I install karamba, and next time I reboot I am in tiny-resolution.
[01:31] <dori> is guidance the program that shows up in the system tray?
[01:31] <DaSkreech> Si
[01:31] <Jucato> kde-guidance-powermanager does, afaik
[01:31] <tackat> DaSkreech: Marble is a generic MapWidget, a great KDE-Edu Application and KDE's future Geo Framework ;-)
[01:32] <DaSkreech> The GeoFramework is where I'm interested
[01:32] <_matt_> dragonfly7: That's the only thing you did?
[01:32] <tackat> DaSkreech: what are you interested in?
[01:32] <DaSkreech> Can I build a GIS app on top of it?
[01:32] <Jucato> ooh *that* Marble! :)
[01:32] <campbch> anyone know how to use upgrade-manager to get edgy?
[01:32] <tackat> DaSkreech: It's rather targeted at simple desktop usage right now
[01:32] <DaSkreech> so is my app
[01:32] <campbch> it says to use gksu, which i installed, but it keeps saying bad device
[01:33] <DaSkreech> It's GIS for Dummies :)
[01:33] <dragonfly7> matt_: Yes, I installed it, ran a widget (or whatever they are called), it frooze, I ended it, and next time I rebooted i was in the small resolution.
[01:33] <tackat> DaSkreech: If you want a full blown GIS for professionals you'd rather look at QGIS
[01:33] <DaSkreech> campbch: You can use kdesu
[01:33] <Jucato> campbch: use kdesu
[01:33] <campbch> :o ok
[01:33] <tackat> DaSkreech: or stuff like that :)
[01:33] <lucky_> #doll base
[01:33] <DaSkreech> tackat: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GISDesktop
[01:34] <_matt_> dragonfly7: What was the "theme" you ran.  And have you restored your resolution?
[01:35] <tackat> DaSkreech: looks very similar to what I'm working towards :)
[01:35] <DaSkreech> Excellent. Do you have a wiki page up or a Brain Dump?
[01:35] <DaSkreech> I havea Brain I need to dump ;-)
[01:35] <dragonfly7> matt: I ran a system monitor thing. I forgot what it was called. My resolution is restored.
[01:35] <tackat> DaSkreech: I have some older Blog entries
[01:35] <_matt_> dragonfly7: have you tried another theme?
[01:36] <DaSkreech> tackat: Umm. Yeah .. I've found that blogs don't seem to give good responses
[01:36] <DaSkreech>  I've been trying to Get Knoware up for about three months using blogs
[01:36] <tackat> http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble10.jpg
[01:36] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Umm Have recycle bin?
[01:36] <tackat> http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble9.jpg
[01:36] <Jucato> DaSkreech: no. that trash bin was CLI-based on ext3. no undelete :P
[01:37] <tackat> http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble7.jpg
[01:37] <tackat> DaSkreech: that's about more recent screenshots
[01:37] <DaSkreech> tackat: Neat
[01:37] <DaSkreech> it looks very good
[01:38] <DaSkreech> And looks very much like a Kubuntu Box :)
[01:38] <Jucato> are you crazy? it doesn't look very good.
[01:38] <Jucato> it looks awesome!!
[01:38] <tackat> It's currently a viewer that displays a worldmap with a minimum of data (5 MB for vectors, a tiled bitmap and kml placemarks
[01:39] <campbch> alright, it finds the upgrade, downloads an upgrade tool, but then the tool does not run returning no error?
[01:39] <DaSkreech> tackat: and no project page yet?
[01:39] <tackat> It "mixes" vector data and bitmap on the fly, maps that onto a sphere and does bumpmapping for each frame
[01:39] <Jucato> campbch: trying to upgrade to Edgy?
[01:39] <campbch> yyeessssssss....
[01:39] <Jucato> !upgrade | campbch
[01:39] <ubotu> campbch: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[01:39] <tackat> DaSkreech: in preperation
[01:39] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Jucato to eat breakfast
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about  tell Jucato to eat breakfast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <tackat> DaSkreech: there's a pdf in KDE svn though
[01:39] <Jucato> lol
[01:40] <gnomefreak> i tried
[01:40] <Jucato> heheh
[01:40] <Jucato> ok ok I will
[01:40] <tackat> DaSkreech: and although it looks a bit like a tiny GoogleEarth it doesn't require OpenGL
[01:40] <DaSkreech> tackat: Under playground?
[01:40] <tackat> DaSkreech: It just uses Qt4's Arthur backend
[01:40] <campbch> :p ok, it just said not to use apt-get to do it
[01:40] <Th3_Cr0up13R> how do i get drivers for wine?
[01:40] <DaSkreech> tackat: I read that much :)
[01:41] <tackat> trunk/playground/base/marble :)
[01:41] <Jucato> gnomefreak: I'm on the other side of the world
[01:42] <Jucato> ok going now... :P
[01:47] <DaSkreech> I'm hunting Wabiits
[01:47] <DaSkreech> Wabbits :-)
[01:50] <tobias_> :D
[01:50] <tobias_> Leave da Wabbits alone!
[01:51] <Hawkwind> Th3_Cr0up13R: Have you asked in the channel that is best for Wine, #WineHQ ?
[01:51] <xoxo> hello, when i click a hyperlin in KMAIL, it opens the cache version but not the actually website, does anyone know how to fix that?
[01:54] <eilker> which command show my wan ip from console?
[01:54] <xoxo> ifconfig i think
[02:00] <eilker> ifconfig shows lan ip...not wan ip...
[02:01] <xoxo> try iwconfig
[02:02] <eilker> xoxo: it is for wireless connection...
[02:05] <rapha> ae
[02:06] <Armagguedes> in OpenOffice.org Math, how do i use multi-line brackets ({}) ? what is the command to make it expand several lines?
[02:08] <[cf] nightrid3r> eilker: you'll have to check that on your router
[02:10] <BluesKaj> good evening all!
[02:11] <eilker> [cf] nightrid3r: i know it, but there was a command to see from console too
[02:11] <natex> ello
[02:11] <compu73rg33k> hey if I have a sata drive
[02:11] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Welcome!
[02:12] <compu73rg33k> and trying to install grub to the mbr, would the mbr be hd0 ?
[02:12] <BluesKaj> Hiya DaSkreech
[02:13] <compu73rg33k> I installed kubuntu but when I hcose the option at bootup it failed right away
[02:13] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, I've had some really good help in here the last few days
[02:13] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: What!!! Wat have these hacks been doing to you before the past few days!!!!
[02:13] <BluesKaj> restores my faith in ppl
[02:14] <natex> compu73rg33k: any error message?
[02:14] <DaSkreech> :-D
[02:14] <BluesKaj> hehe, nothing but good advice DaSkreech :)
[02:14] <[cf] nightrid3r> compu73rg33k: mbr is on sda if you only have SATA drives
[02:14] <sara> Hello Everyone
[02:15] <BluesKaj> for my printer setting up samba to communicate with my windows network ...ver y happy about that
[02:15] <DaSkreech> and it works now?
[02:15] <DaSkreech>  how's your wife with it?
[02:16] <sara> Can anyone help me get my wireless card to work?  The wireless device automatically finds connection, but I can not connect
[02:18] <sara> can anyone help me with wireless?
[02:18] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: You were saying? :)
[02:18] <BluesKaj> wifey's pc isn't affected , she can still her thing on it ...windows is gonna stay on her pc for a while longer until I figure a way to change her mind ;0
[02:18] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: does your wlan use encryption
[02:19] <sara> yes, i used to have wpa, but I changed to wep 64 bit
[02:19] <sara> in hopes that would fix it.
[02:19] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: did you install the same key's on both ends
[02:19] <sara> on the router?
[02:20] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara yes and on your box too
[02:20] <sara> i have a windows laptop that works
[02:20] <sara> on the same key
[02:21] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: then you should check the key on the linux box
[02:21] <sara> I have tried it twice, I have even tried connecting to no-ecnrypted network (next door) that used to work and connection fails for it too.
[02:22] <nkRush> is there a way to get my 4th (and 5th) mouse button working on edgy like it does under winxp, forth and back?!
[02:22] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara can you see wlan's on the linux box
[02:22] <sara> yes
[02:23] <sara> it shows the essid under wireless 0.5.5
[02:23] <Kooboontoo> folks, I'm trying to remove OpenOffice, but some packages require to remove language-support-en as well... do you know if it's safe to remove it, or there is a safer way to remove OO?
[02:24] <[Relic] > can't get automatix installs since it dies on removing the nvida glx legacy even though I haven't told it to remove it  :(
[02:24] <sara> I think there might be a problem with the driver
[02:24] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: then it has te be an encryption problem, i can't help you any further cos i don't have wireless myself :(
[02:24] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: *Cough* *cough* introduce virus on teh network *cough*
[02:24] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: could be
[02:25] <sara> [cf] nightrid3r, do you know of any wrappers for windows drivers to be used on linux?
[02:25] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: ndiswrapper
[02:25] <BluesKaj> well DaSkreech, her pc is pretty old , as soon as crashes ...I'll rescue it ;)
[02:25] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: but i think its better to just use linux drivers
[02:26] <sara> [cf] nightrid3r, wonder if I can find a better driver.  this one just came with the install.
[02:26] <[Relic] > got it  :)
[02:26] <sara> I just freshly installed kunbuntu
[02:26] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Had dinner?
[02:27] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: maybe you could but are you capable of compileing kernel modules ?
[02:27] <Jucato> DaSkreech: breakfast :)
[02:27] <sara> NO
[02:27] <DaSkreech> Does edgy ship with gcc?
[02:27] <sara> my computer, maybe but not my mind
[02:27] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: then getting another driver will be no option for you at this moment
[02:27] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Of course
[02:27] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: What Linux distro doesn't ship with gcc ?
[02:28] <sara> [cf] nightrid3r, could you tell me how to use the wrapper?
[02:28] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: :-p it never shipped with it up to dapper
[02:28] <Jucato> DaSkreech: it does not install it by default
[02:28] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Yes it does
[02:28] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: It's just not installed by default, as it is on most distros
[02:28] <BluesKaj> can kubuntu be installed on a 366mhz pc with only 256Ram and 6G HDD ?
[02:28] <Jucato> Hawkwind: I think that's what he meant by "ship with"
[02:28] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: sorry, i have never used ndiswrapper myself
[02:29] <Kooboontoo> folks, I'm trying to remove OpenOffice, but some packages require to remove language-support-en as well... do you know if it's safe to remove it, or there is a safer way to remove OO?
[02:29] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Well it *ships* gcc, just not installed by default.  Big difference in wording
[02:29] <[cf] nightrid3r> !ndiswrapper
[02:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:29] <DaSkreech> It doesn't ship with Xen though so I'm still peeved
[02:30] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Xen support in *Ubuntu is pretty much non-existant right now, which is a real shame
[02:30] <sara> Thats okay I will wiki it!  thanks [cf] nightrid3r
[02:30] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: what kind of wirelesscard you have
[02:30] <sara> airlink, usb
[02:30] <sara> i spent 9 dollars on it
[02:31] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Xen blows vmware away
[02:31] <Jucato> (why aren't you using it then? :P)
[02:31] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Xen allows you to run your 3D drivers and tons of other things
[02:31] <Jucato> heheh j/k brb :P
[02:31] <DaSkreech> Xen is the <COC respected here>
[02:31] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Because I don't understand it yet
[02:32] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/67607
[02:32] <sara> what is this?
[02:33] <dhuv> hello all, I am trying to find out which script is called when I right click on the batter icon and choose suspend
[02:33] <Jucato> Hawkwind: it already allows you to use 3D drivers already? that'd be cool :)
[02:33] <[cf] nightrid3r> some instructions to get it working
[02:34] <DaSkreech> dhuv: batter?
[02:34] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Oh yeah.  Xen is very very advanced
[02:34] <dhuv> I need to edit it because I need to tell it to unload the usb modules before sleep and load them after it comes back
[02:34] <Hawkwind> Jucato: However, it's also quite complex at the same time
[02:34] <dhuv> DaSkreech: batter?
[02:34] <Jucato> I'll keep my eye on it then :P
[02:34] <dhuv> battery
[02:34] <dhuv> :)
[02:35] <sara> thanks [cf] nightrid3r
[02:36] <dhuv> the /etc/acpid/events/ directory has script that are called when you press the buttons on the keyboard
[02:36] <dhuv> but I dont know which one is called when I choose suspend from the menu
[02:39] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Hob!!!
[02:39] <Hobbsee> hey DaSkreech
[02:39] <DaSkreech> How are you?
[02:40] <DaSkreech> !qt4
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qt4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <Red_Herr1ng> !qt
[02:40] <ubotu> qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.
[02:41] <Red_Herr1ng> isnt windows written with a lot of qt?
[02:41] <DaSkreech> Why is Ctrl+W right beside Ctrl+Q ?
[02:42] <Jucato> Red_Herr1ng: Windows as in MS Windows? no
[02:42] <Jucato> DaSkreech: because W is beside Q?
[02:42] <DaSkreech> Yes I can see that
[02:43] <DaSkreech> Why would you want to make close sub (unimportant) section of app right beside shut down all (including important stuff) right beside each other
[02:43] <fatejudger> for some reason I can't see the bootsplash on my laptop
[02:43] <fatejudger> I hate these stupid dell laptops
[02:43] <fatejudger> is there any reason behind this?
[02:44] <fatejudger> I could see it in Dapper
[02:44] <Jucato> DaSkreech: I don't know why Ctrl+W became the standard "Close Tab" shortcut, but I find Ctrl+Q very intuitive...
[02:44] <DaSkreech> Me too I once every few months mix them up and want to pour treacle over who came up with that combo
[02:45] <Jucato> although, I wouldn't blame the combo for PEBKAC :P
[02:47] <[Relic] > for the nvidia drivers is it best to try the packgage or install the ones from nvida?
[02:49] <Jucato> [Relic] : if you don't absolutely need the latest from NVIDIA, just install nvidia-glx. it's less problematic (most of the time)
[02:50] <[Relic] > can't seem to remove the legacy one  :(
[02:50] <Jucato> which one?
[02:51] <[Relic] > legacy glx
[02:51] <Jucato> I think if you install nvidia-glx, it will automatically remove that one
[02:52] <[Relic] > it won't it keeps erroring out
[02:53] <[Relic] > There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[02:54] <[Relic] > yay! automatix seems to be working
[02:55] <[Relic] > nope
[02:57] <Hawkwind> !info libdvdcss
[02:57] <ubotu> Package libdvdcss does not exist in any distro I know
[02:57] <Hawkwind> !info libdvdcss2
[02:57] <ubotu> libdvdcss2: Simple foundation for reading DVDs - runtime libraries. In component extras, is optional. Version 1.2.9-0.0ubuntu4 (edgy-seveas), package size 33 kB, installed size 112 kB
[02:58] <ubuntu> Hi all, my installation just crashed :(
[02:58] <ubuntu> I recieved this message
[02:58] <pam> just got a fresh install I have a few questions
[02:58] <ubuntu> Traceback (most recent call last):
[02:58] <pam> How can I change the 24 hour clock to 12 hour clock
[02:58] <ubuntu>   File "/usr/bin/ubiquity", line 166, in ?
[02:58] <ubuntu>     main()
[02:58] <ubuntu>   File "/usr/bin/ubiquity", line 161, in main
[02:59] <ubuntu>     install(sys.argv[1] )
[02:59] <ubuntu>   File "/usr/bin/ubiquity", line 57, in install
[02:59] <ubuntu>     ret = wizard.run()
[02:59] <ubuntu>   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/kde-ui.py", line 338, in run
[02:59] <ubuntu>     self.process_step()
[02:59] <ubuntu>   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/kde-ui.py", line 828, in process_step
[02:59] <ubuntu>     self.progress_loop()
[02:59] <ubuntu>   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/kde-ui.py", line 602, in progress_loop
[02:59] <ubuntu>     raise RuntimeError, ("Install failed with exit code %s; see "
[02:59] <ubuntu> RuntimeError: Install failed with exit code None; see /var/log/syslog
[03:00] <purpleposeidon> I have a wireless "7 button" mouse that randomly middle clicks... so how can I have X ignore the middle click, and instead use one of the extra buttons?
[03:01] <pam> anyone?
[03:01] <pam> how do I chagne teh 24 hour clock to 12 hour clock?
[03:02] <purpleposeidon> right click on the clock>date and time format > time & dates
[03:03] <pam> ah thanks
[03:04] <pam> also, my sound isn't working what can I try to debug this. I already restarted artsd and alsa-utils and alsa-base are both installed
[03:07] <pam> also, when I make another panel, how do I adjust the size of the new child panel, not the main panel. I want to put the taskbar at the top but have it half the size as the bottom panel which has my icons and such
[03:07] <Jucato> pam: right-click on any panel, choose Configure Panel, then at the top, there will be a drop down list to choose which panel to configure
[03:08] <BluesKaj> !Requirements
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Requirements - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <pam> Jucato: that's waht I remembered when I used to have KDE on my slackware computer, but there doesn't see mto be a drop down menu here...
[03:08] <Jucato> pam: are you on Edgy?
[03:08] <DekKeD> KopeteX plug-in always crashed. Worked in Dapper. Any ideas?
[03:08] <DekKeD> I mean, always crashes :P
[03:08] <DaSkreech> KopeteX?
[03:09] <DaSkreech> Xbox plugin?
[03:09] <pam> Jucato: yes. Is it under "arrangement" ?
[03:09] <DekKeD> yes, Kopete LateX plug in
[03:09] <Jucato> pam: you need to restart kicker to show it (it's a bug): Alt+F2 then "dcop kicker kicker restart"
[03:09] <sara> Hello, my fan speed is always the highest, does anyone know how I can change that?
[03:11] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, what are the system requirements for kubuntu edgy , or where can i find them ?
[03:11] <pam> ah thank yo uvery much Jucato
[03:12] <Jucato> !requirements
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about requirements - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <pam> now I just need the sound *sigh*
[03:13] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: You can strip it down pretty much
[03:13] <pam> anyone know some things I could try to see the source of my no sound?
[03:13] <sara> Is there a way i can slow down the speed of my computers fan?
[03:13] <LjL> sara: the "lm-sensors" packages contain a "fancontrol" script
[03:14] <LjL> package contains
[03:14] <pam> in kInfocenter it says my sound driver is 3.8.1 a-980706 ( alsa v1.0.12rc1 emulation code)
[03:14] <pam> with Type 10: ALSA emulation as the instaslled driver
[03:14] <pam> I have intel on board sound
[03:15] <sara> LjL, where can I get that Im-sensor?
[03:15] <pam> synth and midi devices both "not enabled in config"
[03:15] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell sara about repos
[03:16] <sara> Thanks!
[03:16] <pam> bah actually I think it's sigmatel
[03:16] <Jucato> !repos | sara
[03:16] <ubotu> sara: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:16] <purpleposeidon> Okay.......... somehow xmodmap broke kwin???
[03:18] <pam> how can I find out waht sound card I have?
[03:18] <dennister> hello again
[03:18] <smaggard> xmodmap is the worst way to map keys
[03:19] <dennister> hello Seveas
[03:19] <dennister> Seveas: r u the person we have to thank for keeping certain repositories alive?
[03:19] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj:it seems that about a $500 PC from Dell should be good :)
[03:20] <dennister> if so, ty very much
[03:20] <smaggard> jes, TY!
[03:21] <dennister> Dr_willis: r u busy? a minute b4 i take a nap?
[03:21] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, i have an old 366mhz HP Pavilion with 256mb Ram and 6G hdd ... seems that is enuff to run Kubuntu with some decent progs on it
[03:21] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Yup Sure is what are you expecting to do on it?
[03:22] <purpleposeidon> smaggard: what is the best way?
[03:22] <Dr_willis> huh?
[03:22] <BluesKaj> it's the wife's windows pc
[03:22] <dennister> mplayer: i thought it was not giving me any sound from my tuner; it is, just extremely quiet
[03:22] <dennister> and muffled by bad noise
[03:22] <purpleposeidon> though I thought it was pretty amusing having the scroll button reversed
[03:23] <BluesKaj> she just surfs , plays solitaire and emails , and writes correspondence- some work related stuff on it
[03:23] <dennister> like i said, i thought i'd give it one more try b4 giving up for now and taking anap
[03:23] <dennister> <---exhausted
[03:23] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Install Kpat! :0
[03:23] <DaSkreech> She'll love it
[03:24] <DaSkreech>  Though I should write them
[03:24] <fatejudger> has anyone had a problem with nspluginviewer crashing when trying to use Flash Player 9?
[03:24] <BluesKaj> KPat ?
[03:24] <DaSkreech>  which brings me back to the question of how do I get in touch with maintainers :-P
[03:24] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Official KDE Solitare App. Excellent :)
[03:25] <BluesKaj> really eh  DaSkreech ...cool , thx for the tip :)
[03:25] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Not installed by default on kubuntu but a) much cooler than solitatre for windows and b) much more user friendly than teh one on Gnome
[03:26] <DaSkreech> As a hint when you start it up press Ctrl+D :)
[03:27] <dennister> test
[03:29] <Jucato> DaSkreech: e-mail? mailing lists probably?
[03:29] <dennister> <--so tired she can't type straight anymore
[03:29] <DaSkreech> Jucato: How do I get the e-mail
[03:29] <dennister> later ppls
[03:29] <DaSkreech> in the deb info it just seems to say maintainer: name
[03:29] <DaSkreech> Like debian team
[03:29] <DaSkreech> or Ubuntu team
[03:29] <Jucato> DaSkreech: I think in some part of the source code
[03:29] <Jucato> I forgot which part exactly...
[03:29] <Jucato> or which file
[03:30] <BluesKaj> ok , DaSkreech...gonna check it out
[03:32] <BluesKaj> yup, it's there
[03:38] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: It's purty as well as a bonus
[03:39] <Jack1> hiya
[03:39] <Jack1> who had login problem after an edgy upgrade?
[03:39] <Jack1> pls any idea?
[03:39] <Jack1> only startx starts a gnome session
[03:41] <kendo> HI ALL
[03:41] <kendo> JACK1 NEW TOO THIS WHERE ARE U ?
[03:42] <Jack1>  kendo???
[03:42] <kendo> SORRY JUST INSTALLED LINUX DONT KNOW HOW TO WORK IT YET
[03:43] <kendo> CAN U HELP ?
[03:43] <DaSkreech> kendo: stop shouting
[03:43] <kendo> sorry !!
[03:43] <DaSkreech> what can we do for you two?
[03:44] <Jack1> DaSkreech: are u there?
[03:44] <kendo> how do i surf on line websites ?
[03:44] <Jack1> DaSkreech: did u read above about my login problem?
[03:44] <DaSkreech> kendo: try konqueror
[03:44] <DaSkreech> Jack1: Sort of I didn't understand it
[03:45] <kendo> ok will try
[03:45] <jiteo> So you can get on IRC but not on Teh Intarwub? Intriguing ;)
[03:45] <DaSkreech> jiteo: Yup it happens
[03:45] <DaSkreech> no big blue E on the desktop :)
[03:46] <Jack1> DaSkreech: ok, if i login it kicks me out after secs , login is correct
[03:46] <purpleposeidon> Instead, you have the big blue K, or w/e.
[03:46] <DaSkreech> Jack1: can you login to the command line?
[03:46] <Jack1> DaSkreech:  if i use console login it works, and if i do startx gnome starts, but dosnt start nautilus
[03:46] <DaSkreech> purpleposeidon: Toukhe!
[03:47] <DekKeD> !ati
[03:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:47] <kendo> hey ppl what do i do in konquerer to open web pages pls help!!!
[03:47] <Jack1> DaSkreech: something with x and xauthority
[03:47] <DaSkreech> kendo: type in the address at the top
[03:48] <DaSkreech> Jack1: Do you have an error line?
[03:48] <bioticpro> hey all, anybody here use a ATI card with aux video output?
[03:48] <DaSkreech> Jack1: Oh wait Can You do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:48] <DaSkreech>  I think I've seen this before
[03:48] <brett_> A friend told me to install auto matrix.. i guess it will help me get updates better but I cannot find it in the adept manager... how can i install automatrix
[03:49] <kendo> ok daskreech will try that
[03:49] <robotgeek> brett_: not really
[03:49] <robotgeek> !automatix
[03:49] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[03:49] <brett_> momal: The reinstall worked great
[03:49] <brett_> robotgeek: do i type that?
[03:49] <DaSkreech> robotgeek: Good picking up. I had no idea what that was about
[03:50] <brett_> ubotu: really? ok well if you discourage it then i will not install it
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about really? ok well if you discourage it then i will not install it - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <kendo> daskreech says no hostname specified ??
[03:50] <Jack1> daskreech I DID THAT  but it says one thing is broken and wont be installed the xserver i believe
[03:50] <DaSkreech> kendo: What did you type in?
[03:50] <DaSkreech> Jack1: That might be a problem
[03:51] <Jack1> i had a DaSkreech proper install, which stopped, since then the problem
[03:51] <DaSkreech>  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[03:51] <robotgeek> brett_: ubotu is a bot. what exactly d oyou need?
[03:51] <kendo> www.google.com
[03:51] <Jack1> how do i solve it? DaSkreech
[03:51] <DaSkreech> kendo: and that throws an error?
[03:51] <brett_> robotgeek: oh ...lol
[03:51] <Jack1> DaSkreech: thx trying that
[03:51] <robotgeek> i am not a bot, i'm rel :)
[03:51] <DaSkreech> Jack1: Guess we start debugging what happens when you type teh command above?
[03:51] <robotgeek> real, err
[03:52] <brett_> robotgeek: is installing auto matrix a good idea
[03:52] <kendo> daskreech its ok i got it to work cheers
[03:52] <DaSkreech> kendo: Great :)
[03:53] <robotgeek> brett_: i would not recommend any programs, you don't really know what they do to your system. so, tell us what you need help with, and we will guide you
[03:53] <robotgeek> brett_: cause when you do, you learn :)
[03:53] <kendo> daskreech i am used too win xp but fed up with it  trying linux for first time
[03:53] <DaSkreech> kendo: welcome
[03:53] <kendo> any advise?
[03:53] <veeKen> hello
[03:53] <kendo> cheers hi all
[03:54] <brett_> robotgeek: My friend encouraged me to switch to linux and told me to install automatrix so that it would update my system
[03:54] <DaSkreech> kendo: Turn on multiverse
[03:54] <robotgeek> brett_: hmm, nope
[03:54] <bioticpro> I have an ATI VIVO card, while I am booting up I can see the splash on my TV screen, but when kde starts, the TV screen goes black, can someone help please?
[03:54] <kendo> how do i turn on multiverse??
[03:54] <DaSkreech> !multiverse | kendo
[03:54] <ubotu> kendo: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:54] <DaSkreech> brett_: where is your friend?
[03:54] <robotgeek> brett_: you probably need mp3 , java, flash and 'thecodecs'
[03:55] <brett_> DaSkreech: in another country
[03:55] <DaSkreech> Ha ha ok :)
[03:55] <brett_> robotgeek: yes i do
[03:55] <DaSkreech> read the URL that ubotu gave to you
[03:55] <brett_> robotgeek: i also am missing graphics drivers
[03:55] <DaSkreech> kendo: let me know if you have any problems with that
[03:55] <robotgeek> brett_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:56] <robotgeek> !ati
[03:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:56] <brett_> DaSkreech: You mean the one robot just gave me?
[03:57] <bioticpro> robotgeek, was that for me?
[03:57] <jiteo> Speaking of multiverse.
[03:57] <bioticpro> (the ati stuff)
[03:57] <jiteo> Where's w32codecs? Something depends on it, apparently, but it's nowhere to be found.
[03:57] <veeKen> DaSkreech: that page works for me too; but I don't have those lines
[03:58] <robotgeek> bioticpro: nope, for brett_
[03:58] <DaSkreech> veeKen: Which page?
[03:58] <brett_> robotgeek: you want me to type !ati?
[03:58] <DaSkreech> !w32
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <DaSkreech> !w32codecs
[03:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:58] <brett_> robotgeek: what am i looking for on this page
[03:58] <veeKen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu --> this one
[03:58] <robotgeek> i was not paying attention, but the ati thing might help you too. bioticpro
[03:58] <DaSkreech> veeKen, kendo: what's the issue?
[03:59] <jiteo> Ah, so it's not even in Ubuntu reps.
[03:59] <brett_> robotgeek: what do you mean '!ati'
[03:59] <veeKen> I'm into installing gimp and gimpshop
[03:59] <robotgeek> brett_: read through that page, (first the codecs stuff)
[03:59] <jiteo> So can we use Chris Mariallat's Debian multimedia repository?
[03:59] <bioticpro> robotgeek, I have my ati card working, just not the TV out under X
[03:59] <veeKen> I found an howto but it tells to use that page to change my repos
[04:00] <robotgeek> bioticpro: okay, probably not then. my tv out does not work too, ait sucks
[04:00] <robotgeek> ati sucks, rather
[04:00] <brett_> robotgeek: thanks... i got to go. I will read that and hopefully i will be able to fix it
[04:00] <robotgeek> brett_: you said you wanted to install the driver for your card, that's should bbe listed in that page
[04:00] <veeKen> but I haven't ca.archive.ubuntu.... to turn on universe multiuniverse
[04:00] <robotgeek> bioticpro: is this a laptop?
[04:01] <bioticpro> nope...
[04:01] <bioticpro> I had nvidia TV out working, but TV I have now doesn't have S-video input, so I swapped the ati card cause it had aux video
[04:02] <veeKen> and: it tells about dapper, I have edgy eft
[04:03] <DaSkreech> veeKen: Gimp should be in the main
[04:04] <veeKen> you're right...but if I install Gimp and then I try to install Gimpshop I have an error
[04:04] <DaSkreech> veeKen: Yo don't need a ca. it can be anything .archive.ubuntu
[04:04] <DaSkreech> and being dapper or edgy or feisty or grunty doesn't make a differecne
[04:04] <delight> !cam
[04:04] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:05] <noxion> Anyone know where I can find a step-by-step guide for installing beryl
[04:06] <DaSkreech> noxion: ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:06] <noxion> Thanks
[04:06] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[04:06] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:07] <veeKen> done: I have now universe multiuniverse
[04:07] <DaSkreech> veeKen: do an update
[04:08] <delight> !palm
[04:08] <ubotu> A good guide for setting up Palm devices is at http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO.html#PC-CONNECT-USB
[04:08] <veeKen> ready: can I now install gimp and gimpshop without any problem?
[04:09] <case__> hi
[04:10] <case__> i have a problem
[04:10] <veeKen> I'll tell you the results in a couple of minutes ;)
[04:10] <DaSkreech> We have solutions
[04:10] <case__> haha
[04:10] <case__> xD
[04:10] <case__> thanks
[04:10] <case__> im using beryl
[04:10] <DaSkreech> Just none that fit your problem :)
[04:10] <case__> and randomly my worg fall down
[04:10] <case__> the log
[04:10] <case__> says
[04:11] <DaSkreech> !enter
[04:11] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[04:11] <case__> 	error	xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[04:11] <case__> xorg
[04:11] <DaSkreech> case__: Can You pastebin it?
[04:11] <DaSkreech> case__: That's a normal error. nothing to worry about there
[04:11] <case__> pastebin?
[04:11] <case__> ok
[04:12] <case__> so i dont know why xorg fall down
[04:12] <case__> :(
[04:12] <veeKen> (gimp works fine...trying gimpshop)
[04:12] <case__> maybe the nvidia driver...
[04:12] <DaSkreech> falls down?
[04:12] <DaSkreech> It shuts down on you?
[04:13] <case__> some times i got a black screen with only the arrow
[04:13] <case__> of the cursor
[04:14] <case__> it happens when i open some programs like openoffice or firefox
[04:14] <case__> mm...
[04:14] <DaSkreech> case__: Can you move the cursour?
[04:14] <case__> yes
[04:14] <DaSkreech> Cursor
[04:14] <case__> yes
[04:14] <DaSkreech> Oh I know what you are talking about :)
[04:15] <case__> xD
[04:15] <DaSkreech>  it's a bug in beryl :( Sorry
[04:15] <case__> :(
[04:15] <DaSkreech>  grin and bear it for a while
[04:15] <DaSkreech> They will fix it. It annoys them as well
[04:15] <case__> so... there is no solution for now?
[04:15] <case__> ahh
[04:15] <case__> ok
[04:15] <case__> so i dont need to trash my laptop
[04:15] <case__> :d
[04:15] <case__> :D
[04:15] <case__> xD
[04:16] <Hawkwind> !enter | case
[04:16] <ubotu> case: Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[04:16] <DaSkreech> case__: Nope. Just restart beryl
[04:16] <DaSkreech>  You have the Beryl manager right?
[04:18] <case__> ok, sorry. DaSkreech Yes
[04:18] <DaSkreech> ok it has an option to restart beryl
[04:19] <DaSkreech>  or just switch it out then back in
[04:19] <DaSkreech>  Should clear up your black box issue
[04:19] <manchicken> Okay... I'm having a weird problem...
[04:19] <case__> thanks, but with the black screen how can i do that?
[04:19] <DaSkreech> well.... You are a manchicken
[04:20] <manchicken> All of a sudden, katapult is going really stupid.
[04:20] <DaSkreech> I think that would make life kind of difficult
[04:20] <manchicken> And kdcop freezes.
[04:20] <case__> jajaj
[04:20] <manchicken> Nice.
[04:20] <DaSkreech> just katapult ?
[04:20] <manchicken> Well, I'm more worried about kdcop being frozen.
[04:20] <manchicken> I think they're related.
[04:21] <DaSkreech> I would think so as well
[04:21] <superkirbyartist> All colors in Kubuntu are yellow or blue!
[04:21] <superkirbyartist> My "Red, yellow and orange" maga drawing appears blue in Konqueror!  :-(
[04:21] <manchicken> If for some reason dcop isn't working properly....
[04:22] <carson> what's the default trashcan's hard path?
[04:23] <superkirbyartist> My colors are messed up in Kubuntu.
[04:23] <DaSkreech> carson: trash:/
[04:23] <carson> yeah but what's the real path
[04:25] <carson> ah /home/user/.local/Trash/
[04:25] <veeKen> gimpshop won't install...but it's now 4.30 am here, time to sleep; thanks for the great and fast support! I'll be back tomorrow
[04:26] <superkirbyartist> Please I'm serious.
[04:26] <DaSkreech> superkirbyartist: Monitor is ok
[04:26] <DaSkreech> ?
[04:26] <superkirbyartist> Monitor works.
[04:26] <superkirbyartist> The one built in the iMac.
[04:27] <DaSkreech> Ok all the colours are missmatched?
[04:27] <superkirbyartist> I have a red, yellow, brown, orange manga.  Appears all blue.
[04:28] <DaSkreech> Can you screenshot it?
[04:28] <superkirbyartist> Yes.
[04:30] <superkirbyartist> Done.   Now what?
[04:30] <DaSkreech> Umm. Photobucket I guess.
[04:33] <DaSkreech> Unless you happen to have a web server :)
[04:33] <superkirbyartist> Zshare.
[04:33] <DaSkreech> k
[04:34] <DaSkreech> Well give back the URl when you done
[04:35] <superkirbyartist> http://www.zshare.net/image/snapshot1-png-pr1.html
[04:35] <superkirbyartist> And they are the bad colors for the manga.
[04:42] <DaSkreech> superkirbyartist: It comes up fine here
[04:43] <superkirbyartist> It's not supposed to be blue!
[04:45] <imbrandon> superkirbyartist, do not ctcp the whole channel
[04:45] <DekKeD> !ati
[04:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:45] <fatejudger> where in the heck did they put laptop power settings in Edgy now?
[04:46] <fatejudger> I can't find them anywhere in System Settings
[04:48] <DaSkreech> !guidance
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guidance - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <DaSkreech> !power
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about power - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <superkirbyartist> Hello?
[04:48] <DaSkreech> superkirbyartist: hi
[04:48] <manchicken> So ksynaptics is a BAD package.
[04:49] <manchicken> libsynaptics0 is BAD as well.
[04:49] <DaSkreech> superkirbyartist: I was trying to say that it doesn't come up as blue here
[04:49] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: nothing?
[04:49] <superkirbyartist> It comes red blue yellow brown?
[04:49] <DaSkreech> It's kde-guidance-power-manager or soemething like that
[04:49] <superkirbyartist> Me?
[04:49] <fatejudger> but where is that?
[04:49] <DaSkreech> superkirbyartist: Umm. I don't see any red
[04:49] <superkirbyartist> What colors?
[04:49] <DaSkreech> all the rest are there though
[04:50] <DaSkreech>  Yellow flower, Brown hair, black eyes
[04:50] <DaSkreech> Looks pretty normal
[04:50] <superkirbyartist> Right, I only showed part of it.
[04:50] <DaSkreech> There is a red folder at the side though
[04:50] <superkirbyartist> Because Konqueror is weird.
[04:50] <superkirbyartist> ?
[04:50] <DaSkreech> :-)
[04:50] <DaSkreech> and a red flag
[04:51] <DaSkreech> the two bottom tabs
[04:51] <superkirbyartist> Anything other that the dude don't matter.
[04:51] <superkirbyartist> Was that purely a screenshot I sent you?
[04:52] <superkirbyartist> Do you see KDE?
[04:52] <DaSkreech> Yes
[04:53] <DaSkreech> Monuments is open in Openoffice
[04:53] <DaSkreech> superkirbyartist: What happens if you open it in gwenview?
[04:54] <[Relic] > any ideas on how to unlock a directory so I can back it up using the live cd and a mounted HD?
[04:54] <DaSkreech> What File system?
[04:54] <superkirbyartist> I can try to see...
[04:55] <superkirbyartist> How do you eject USB in KDE?
[04:55] <[Relic] > ext3 k3b won't let me access the "Desktop" dir on it
[04:56] <DaSkreech> superkirbyartist: Right click the icon on the desktop and choose eject
[04:56] <DaSkreech> can you Cd into it
[04:56] <superkirbyartist> It's an iMac.  No right button.  And in Gwenview still blue.
[04:56] <[Relic] > nope,  and cd isn't a sudo command either  :(
[04:57] <superkirbyartist> ...
[04:57] <[Relic] > sudo ls -la Desktop works closest I have gotten to getting into it
[04:57] <DaSkreech> [Relic] : sudo su && cd Desktop
[04:58] <superkirbyartist> Kirby?
[04:58] <DaSkreech> superkirbyartist: Is anything Red?
[04:58] <thompa> im using an hp 1018 printer and last couple of lines are cut off, worked before
[04:58] <superkirbyartist> Not at all.  And I need to get going soon.  And NO right button on mouse.
[04:58] <superkirbyartist> It's a mac mouse keyboard.
[04:58] <superkirbyartist> But I just removed myself USB.
[04:58] <DaSkreech> Erm there is a short cut key for right click in KDE I just don't recall it
[04:59] <DaSkreech> superkirbyartist: I think that it may have mis-diagnosed your monitor
[04:59] <superkirbyartist> I need to get heading.  Goodbye and goodnight.
[04:59] <Erich-K> Hello, I've forgotten how to make a script file and launch it in konsole. For example, in the script file I could have it check the status of multiple apps, simply by cd'ing to the directory and running the script. How do I start a script in konsole?
[04:59] <DaSkreech> superkirbyartist: NIght
[04:59] <DaSkreech> Erich-K: sh script name
[04:59] <Jucato> DaSkreech: compose key? (beside the right Win-key and right Ctrl key)
[05:00] <Erich-K> DaScreech: That's it. Thanks :)
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Jucato: On a mac?
[05:00] <Jucato> ah lol sorry :P
[05:00] <[Relic] > that lets me in but how do I unlock it for other programs to access it?
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Erich-K: or ./scriptname
[05:00] <DaSkreech> [Relic] : who owns the Folder?
[05:02] <jmichaelx> could someone tell me what the best/quickest way to rip CDs is in k/ubuntu?
[05:03] <[Relic] > user 1000 group 1000
[05:03] <Jucato> jmichaelx: Audio CD to OGG/MP3?
[05:03] <jmichaelx> i am able to rip CDs... although opening CDs burned with realplayer crashes konqueror... and ripping a CD usually takes 45 minutes to an hour
[05:04] <jmichaelx> Jucato: yes... either way
[05:04] <Jucato> quickest way I think would be Konqueror, using the audiocd:/ kio slave
[05:04] <jmichaelx> Jucato: ok, that is what i have been doing
[05:05] <jmichaelx> i just wondered if there was a quicker way
[05:06] <jmichaelx> i hate switching to windows to manage my music collection, as that is about the only thing i use windows for anymore.... but i guess i will continue doing so for the time being
[05:06] <Hawkwind> jmichaelx: There is also grip which is much nicer IMO
[05:07] <jmichaelx> Hawkwind: i used to have that.... maybe i should give it another whirl
[05:07] <Hawkwind> jmichaelx: Why would you need Windows for that ?
[05:07] <Jucato> k3b also rips Audio CD's
[05:07] <Hawkwind> So does webmin believe it or not :P
[05:07] <Jucato> :P
[05:08] <jmichaelx> Hawkwind: well, it takes me 15 minutes or less to rip a CD in windows.... 45 minutes or more in linux. plus, my CDs burnt with real player (in windows) cause konqueror to crash
[05:09] <Hawkwind> jmichaelx: Grip should handle all of that and takes less than 15 minutes to rip a full CD and encode it
[05:09] <jmichaelx> Hawkwind: ok, i am going to install Grip again....
[05:18] <tuko> hello
[05:19] <xsacha> jmichaelx: you probably have it on a safe burn speed
[05:21] <DaSkreech>  tuko: Hello
[05:25] <thompa> my printer is cutting off pages at bottom, it always worked before, is there some way to remove the drivers
[05:25] <xsacha> is there some program here to convert decimal to hexadecimal?
[05:25] <xsacha> speedcrunch cant seem to
[05:27] <thompa> laserjet 1018, still cant seem to get it working right
[05:28] <robin_> would someone try to send me a file, I am trying to set up the ports on my router, thx
[05:30] <jmichaelx> ok, grip is much , much faster at ripping a CD that konq/kio, @ about 10x, BUT, the encoding (using lame) is at about 1.5x.... still very, very slow.
[05:33] <jmichaelx> is there something better to use for encoding besides lame?
[05:33] <jmichaelx> to MP3, that is...
[05:34] <thompa> ok , well how do i remove all symbolic links to printer
[05:37] <[Relic] > can you install over an old install without too many problems?
[05:37] <jumpercuumex> hi there how can i see a list of channels????
[05:40] <unix_infidel> [Relic] : sure, just keep your home dir and backup any necessary rc files and you should be kosher.
[05:40] <[Relic] > is there a way to change the second Desktop dir to a different group or owner?
[05:41] <unix_infidel> [Relic] : i dont understand what exactly you mean by second desktop dir
[05:42] <[Relic] > livecd + normal install, the normal install HD has a file temp/home/relic/Desktop with 1000 1000 and I can't get into it to back it up
[05:43] <unix_infidel> [Relic] : are you trying to do a rescue?
[05:43] <unix_infidel> otherwise, just boot in into the install and use cp -a
[05:43] <jmichaelx> ok, i hope this is configurable, but.... at this point, the way Grip tags files sucks really bad
[05:43] <[Relic] > pretty much, I screwed up something with the nvidia stuff and it won't boot properly again
[05:44] <jmichaelx> [Relic] : have you reconfigured your xserver?
[05:44] <unix_infidel> yea, its best to recover than reinstall.
[05:44] <[Relic] > though it did it automatically wwhen you ran glx enable line
[05:45] <unix_infidel> in this case.
[05:45] <[Relic] > where's xserver conf?
[05:45] <jmichaelx> [Relic] : my guess is that you would be well off to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:45] <unix_infidel> and my guess is that X wont start. not that the system isnt bootable.
[05:46] <smaggard_> gnite
[05:46] <jmichaelx> oops
[05:46] <jmichaelx> it is... /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:46] <jmichaelx> i think....
[05:48] <[Relic] > got to get gub updated first I think, that went very screwy
[05:48] <[Relic] > grub  :)
[05:48] <[Relic] > cd ..
[05:49] <bLaZeD> anyone here know where to get help with gtkpod.....there mailing list kinda sucks
[05:52] <[Relic] > so I want to reboot to recovery mode and then run that line and hopefully that will fix it?
[05:52] <DaSkreech> bLaZeD: What's the problem?
[05:53] <bLaZeD> DaSkreech, well i used to be able to transfer my videos to it fine.....and they would play fine.....now when i add them.....they play but have no sound.......
[05:53] <bLaZeD> im converting them the same way
[05:53] <[Relic] > back in a few maybe  :)
[06:03] <xsacha> how do i search for a word seperated by nulls using grep?
[06:03] <xsacha> eg.: E n g l i s h  (each second letter is a null, 00)
[06:06] <illmatik`> hey guys. I accidently partitioned my kubuntu partition too large than I wanted it. I'm trying to use partition magic to shrink it down but it wont let me...any suggestions?
[06:08] <xsacha> illmatik`: try a partitioner on linux..
[06:08] <xsacha> gparted, qtparted, ..list goes on
[06:09] <illmatik`> will do, thank you.
[06:10] <seishinbyou> There is a PPC version of the Kubuntu Live CD, is there not (just checking)
[06:11] <DaSkreech> 3 weeks ina row!!! :)
[06:11] <DaSkreech> bLaZeD: Have you tried teh IRC chan when people are awake?
[06:12] <DaSkreech> xsacha: maybe try a single quote?
[06:12] <xsacha> ok
[06:12] <xsacha> hmm still no go.. seems to ignore the single quote.. found files with "English"
[06:13] <DaSkreech> grep 'E n g l i s h ' doesn't work?
[06:13] <bLaZeD> DaSkreech, whats the irc chan
[06:13] <xsacha> splaces?
[06:13] <xsacha> spaces*
[06:13] <bLaZeD> DaSkreech, #gtkpod is empty
[06:13] <DaSkreech> or use a \NNN
[06:13] <DaSkreech> bLaZeD: Check the site?
[06:13] <xsacha> DaSkreech: nulls (00), not spaces (20) ot newlines (0D)
[06:13] <bLaZeD> dascyea nothing about irc
[06:14] <bLaZeD> * DaSkreech
[06:14] <DaSkreech> xsacha: Octal numbers replacing NNN of course
[06:14] <xsacha> so i can use \00 ?
[06:14] <xsacha> k
[06:14] <DaSkreech> bLaZeD: then For right now the mailing list is your best bet
[06:14] <DaSkreech>  and google
[06:14] <DaSkreech> Oh! check the Ubuntu Forums
[06:14] <bLaZeD> DaSkreech, ..yea the mailing list doesnt have any info on my prob
[06:15] <bLaZeD> DaSkreech, thanks for trying to help...i am off to bed
[06:15] <[Relic] > no luck with that :(
[06:16] <xsacha> hmm \000 doesn't work -- it does seem to find it in all binary files though..
[06:16] <xsacha> as soon as i add a letter, it fails
[06:16] <xsacha> grep E\000  finds nothing... this should be E followed by a null?
[06:17] <DaSkreech> as I recall
[06:17] <DaSkreech> If you put it in ' '
[06:18] <xsacha> 'E\000' ? still nothing :(
[06:18] <[Relic] > I get the gears and blue kubuntu up and it runs through evertything then the screen blinks and goes back to the gears and kubuntu screen and nothing unless I press ctrl-alt-del and it shuts down
[06:18] <[Relic] > grep -ir 'E\000' *   ?
[06:19] <xsacha> nothing :(
[06:19] <xsacha> that's what i was using but without the -ir
[06:19] <[Relic] > does help give you a something for null
[06:20] <xsacha> i opened up first file in the dir and there is an E and then a null after it
[06:20] <xsacha> grep seems to find all files with a null in it when i do grep '\000' *  .. as soon as i add a letter it doesnt work :S
[06:22] <momal> brett_: glad to hear it worked out _^-
[06:23] <DaSkreech> seishinbyou: Back from Japan?
[06:23] <seishinbyou> Back?  I'm still here
[06:23] <DaSkreech> heehee
[06:24] <DaSkreech> so does it really run LInux?
[06:24] <DaSkreech> or ... obviously linux?
[06:24] <Jucato> kombanwa seishinbyou-san
[06:24] <CPrgmSwR2> Oh my gosh I cannot believe what i just did
[06:24] <DaSkreech> Seemino sen?
[06:24] <seishinbyou> It is a PPC architecture...the latest firmware supports homebrew
[06:24] <CPrgmSwR2> I booted kubuntu using a gentoo linux
[06:24] <seishinbyou> I'm hoping I can hack something together
[06:24] <DaSkreech> latest?
[06:24] <seishinbyou> Jucato:
[06:24] <CPrgmSwR2> i mean I booted kubunti using a gentoo kernel
[06:24] <DaSkreech> It's been out one day
[06:24] <momal> seishinbyou: GOOD LUCK!!!!.. once it comes into australia kubuntu first thing to be put onto it hehehe
[06:24] <seishinbyou> Yes, and there are already firmware updates
[06:25] <DaSkreech> Madness!
[06:25] <seishinbyou> Not as mad as the sale
[06:25] <[Relic] > to what?  :)
[06:25] <seishinbyou> The madness during the PS3 sale
[06:25] <momal> seishinbyou: you should make a video of installing/booting kubuntu :D
[06:26] <[Relic] > :)
[06:26] <seishinbyou> If I get it working, that is exactly what I plan on doing
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Yeah the blog of getting a distro running on it would be more interesting for me
[06:26] <seishinbyou> I'd want it hosted off some other domain, though.  I don't think I would like getting Dugg/Slashdotted again
[06:26] <DaSkreech> What was time one?
[06:27] <seishinbyou> Over some DDR stuff
[06:27] <seishinbyou> that was back in 2002
[06:27] <seishinbyou> slashdot
[06:28] <DaSkreech> seishinbyou: Installed a bigger hard drive yet?
[06:28] <xsacha> it seems when i grep for: '\000'  -- it is finding all files with "000" in them :|
[06:29] <xsacha> anyone know how to grep for null?
[06:29] <Jucato> anyone knows how to do the Buzz'ing effect of YM in Kopete
[06:29] <Jucato> ah nvm :P
[06:29] <xsacha> yuck, why would you want that
[06:30] <Jucato> xsacha: for revenge :p
[06:30] <xsacha> i disable it :P
[06:30] <Jucato> heheh
[06:30] <seishinbyou> DaSkreech: I want to try it; there was already a blog link on digg about someone who put in a 200GB drive
[06:30] <DaSkreech> We want 500Gb :)
[06:30] <xsacha> 1TB
[06:30] <momal> 200 wans't it 320 ?
[06:30] <DaSkreech> for apt-get install MGS4
[06:31] <seishinbyou> DaSkreech: hahaha
[06:31] <xsacha> apt-get install NFSCarbon
[06:31] <momal> Haha
[06:31] <seishinbyou> Aw, this game sucks... apt-get remove afrika --purge
[06:31] <momal> apt-get install psone-emulator
[06:31] <DaSkreech> apt-get install gb-emu
[06:32] <DaSkreech> ahhhh the power of a cell processor
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Black and white tetris
[06:32] <momal> http://digg.com/search?area=promoted&age=7&sort=new&s=ps3&submit=Search <-- all digg frontpage stories about ps3 in last 7 days if people want to look :)
[06:32] <DaSkreech> I just want to know if it has MythTV/Tivo built in
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Or do I gotta install Myth and libxine-extracodecs myself :-P
[06:33] <momal> that 320GB hd he put in his ps3 wont even fit lol!
[06:35] <Admiral_Chicago> remember that kubuntu-offtopig is for non-support queries
[06:35] <Jucato> hi Admiral_Chicago
[06:35] <xsacha> here is guide to installing kubuntu on ps3? lol http://ps3.qj.net/Kernel-patches-and-documentation-for-PS3-Linux-Boot-any-PPC-linux-distro-on-your-PS3-/pg/49/aid/72608
[06:36] <Admiral_Chicago> can someone help with a "debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process" error
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: he's having issues installing kubuntu that counts as support :)
[06:36] <robotgeek> Admiral_Chicago: sudo lsof /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[06:36] <Admiral_Chicago> no i mean the whole "ps3" thing, sorry people
[06:37] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: Some of it is support related
[06:37] <momal> thats interesting im thinking there needs to be a ps3 version of kubuntu : p
[06:37] <DaSkreech> momal: It's open source. Go and compile :)
[06:37] <DaSkreech>  The new gcc has cell support
[06:37] <Admiral_Chicago> robotgeek: dpkg: error processing localeconf (--configure):
[06:37] <momal> lol!.... if only I had a ps3 :p
[06:37] <Admiral_Chicago> ah okay
[06:37] <robotgeek> Admiral_Chicago: sudo killall dpkg
[06:39] <DaSkreech> I'm so envious of our Japanese friends right now who'll probably be busy tinkering with their PS3.
[06:39] <DaSkreech> :-(
[06:39] <Admiral_Chicago> nope no process running
[06:40] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: do you still have the lock file?
[06:40] <robotgeek> Admiral_Chicago: some process must be using it, try to find the PID and kill it
[06:40] <DaSkreech> did apt-get/dpkg die abruptly ?
[06:41] <Admiral_Chicago> yes it did
[06:43] <Admiral_Chicago> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31380/
[06:44] <Admiral_Chicago> wait i think i got it
[06:48] <nextstate> anybody have problems with gettings the kubuntu install to boot with the asus crosshair mobo?
[06:51] <nathe> nextstate: Not that I'll be able to actually answer the question, but what's the nature of the problem?
[06:52] <nextstate> it appears to start booting then I get a black screen
[06:52] <nextstate> booting off the cd that is
[06:52] <nathe> have you tried booting to the safe vga mode?
[06:52] <FriendlyMan> hi
[06:52] <nathe> or do you not even get there?
[06:53] <nextstate> no, lemme give that a shot
[06:53] <nextstate> yes, i get that far
[06:53] <nathe> k
[06:53] <nathe> anyone seen kaudiocreator just sitting there trying to rip?
[06:54] <FriendlyMan> wine for kubuntu 64bits are stable ?
[06:57] <FriendlyMan> humm ?
[06:57] <nextstate> nathe: looks like the safe graphics mode was the ticket. thanks.
[06:59] <xsacha> FriendlyMan: use 32-bit xine with linux32 (force architecture)
[06:59] <xsacha> wine*
[06:59] <nathe> FriendlyMan: I've had a friend get it working, haven't myself.  He did say it was a rather large pain though
[07:00] <FriendlyMan> ok ... but need compile ?
[07:00] <xsacha> dont need to compile, just d/l the deb
[07:00] <nathe> xsacha: any clue on the kaudiocreator problem?
[07:00] <xsacha> then dpkg -i --force-architecture nameofdeb.deb
[07:00] <xsacha> never used it nathe :(
[07:01] <nathe> nods
[07:01] <FriendlyMan> in sinaptic this is not possible.
[07:01] <FriendlyMan> I try this
[07:01] <xsacha> FriendlyMan: download it
[07:01] <FriendlyMan> ;) thanks
[07:01] <xsacha> FriendlyMan: in synaptic, however, download linux32 and the ia32 libs
[07:01] <xsacha> so that you can run 32-bit programs
[07:01] <nathe> it's bizzare... It worked with the 8x cdrom that I had to use for install (other drive was giving me seek errors), but when I swaped the new drive in, it just sits and spins.
[07:02] <nathe> no errors in dmesg or anything.
[07:02] <FriendlyMan> ok, i anderstand
[07:03] <FriendlyMan> apt get dont have force metod ?
[07:04] <tanlaan_> what package do i need to "sudo apt-get install" to be able to compile programs?
[07:04] <noiesmo> build-essential tanlaan_
[07:05] <tanlaan_> noiesmo:
[07:05] <tanlaan_> noiesmo: thanks :D
[07:06] <[Relic] > Sort of working now, just can't use anything that needs OGL
[07:08] <[Relic] > in fact a lot of things are crashing  :(
[07:09] <DirtyThang> hey
[07:09] <DaSkreech> Night a;;
[07:09] <DaSkreech> s/;;/ll
[07:09] <[Relic] > :)
[07:10] <[Relic] > I'll figure this out or reinstall in the morning  :)
[07:10] <caveMan1> is there any different between kubuntu and ubuntu apart from the fact that ubuntu is using GNOME by default and kubuntu KDE?
[07:10] <DirtyThang> hey any of u now how to fix my clock or some error in kdeveloper?
[07:10] <DirtyThang> know
[07:10] <Jucato> caveMan1: nothing. that's the only difference really
[07:11] <Jucato> (of course Ubuntu and Kubuntu have different sets of developers, although some develop for both)
[07:13] <DaSkreech> DirtyThang: What?
[07:14] <bioticpro>  Hello, how do I decide whether my card should use ati-xorg or ati_legacy-xorg?
[07:14] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, hows it been man
[07:14] <DaSkreech> noiesmo: Yo
[07:14] <DaSkreech> What you been up to?
[07:14] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, hey not much just chillin
[07:24] <ebiven> Can I get a hand getting the NVidia binary drivers working?  I've followed the guides I could find.  I just installed 6.10.
[07:25] <ebiven> When I try to run nvidia-glx-config enable I get "
[07:25] <ebiven> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[07:25] <ebiven> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[07:25] <noiesmo> ebiven, found this the other day looks like its for you http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[07:25] <DaSkreech> ebiven: After installing you have to reboot
[07:28] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, hey check this  http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[07:29] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, havent tried yet but its on launchpad so cant be to bad
[07:29] <ebiven> DaSkreech: I have to reboot before I run nvidia-glx-config?
[07:29] <DaSkreech> Right :-)
[07:29] <DaSkreech> Well 02:00
[07:29] <DaSkreech> Time for me to sleep
[07:29] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, catch ya soon dude
[07:29] <DaSkreech> You too
[07:32] <BrightEyes`> hello.i dont know what i have done but i cant startx with a normal user.what can i do?
[07:32] <BrightEyes`> im using xfce
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: hello
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> BrightEyes`: have you tried to chmod /etc/X11
[07:35] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: hi :)
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't know the syntax but let me find a link
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[07:36] <Admiral_Chicago> might help
[07:36] <Admiral_Chicago> hows it going?
[07:36] <xsacha> what's a fast video capture program?
[07:36] <BrightEyes`> Admiral_Chicago: ok should i chmod 555 /etc/X11 ?
[07:36] <xsacha> chmod -R  ?
[07:36] <Admiral_Chicago> BrightEyes wait a sec
[07:37] <BrightEyes`> Admiral_Chicago: ok
[07:37] <Admiral_Chicago> so you have to sudo startx when you boot?
[07:37] <Admiral_Chicago> explain what happens when boot your computer
[07:37] <BrightEyes`> Admiral_Chicago: i dont know.i done something wrong and sudo was uninstalled.as well as adept
[07:37] <Admiral_Chicago> so how do you startx?
[07:37] <BrightEyes`> Admiral_Chicago: and kde.i just wanted to uninstall enlightment window management and i took away many others.xfce now works fine
[07:38] <BrightEyes`> well if i su
[07:38] <BrightEyes`> and then startx i get access to x window
[07:38] <Rede> im having some difficulty setting up my dual monitors with nvidia. video displays fine in the console, but in X there is an orange tinge and a vertical black line down the left side of the second display
[07:38] <Rede> anyone had any similar issues?
[07:40] <Admiral_Chicago> BrightEyes`: do you have xubuntu-desktop installed?
[07:40] <BrightEyes`> Admiral_Chicago: i tried ls -l /etc/X11 and i cant see the user in that folder
[07:40] <BrightEyes`> Admiral_Chicago: im using kubuntu.but i dont have kde now.so you may say im on ubuntu with Xfce
[07:41] <Admiral_Chicago> BrightEyes`: that's xubuntu but anyways, pstree see if anything is using sudo
[07:42] <BrightEyes`> Admiral_Chicago: with pstree i cant see anything about sudo
[07:42] <BrightEyes`> Admiral_Chicago: sudo was uninstalled
[07:44] <Admiral_Chicago> is anything using adept
[07:45] <BrightEyes`> Admiral_Chicago: no.adept was uninstalled as well as kde
[07:45] <Admiral_Chicago> su apt-get install kde
[07:46] <BrightEyes`> Admiral_Chicago: i dont want kde:)
[07:46] <BrightEyes`> i just want to make a user using startx
[07:49] <inteliwasp> has anyone noticed on google news that sun GPLed java?
[07:49] <BrightEyes`> inteliwasp: what does that mean?
[07:50] <BrightEyes`> anyone here who knows how to make a user use the window manager??i can only get access as root
[07:50] <inteliwasp> http://news.google.com/nwshp?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wn&ncl=http://news.com.com/Sun%2Bpicks%2BGPL%2Blicense%2Bfor%2BJava%2Bcode/2100-7344_3-6134584.html
[07:51] <BrightEyes`> oh GPL general public license.yes yes...
[07:51] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't know how to help you, i'm sorry
[07:52] <BrightEyes`> Admiral_Chicago: np
[07:52] <inteliwasp> and java's website would be dead... :P
[07:53] <inteliwasp> Admiral_Chicago:  would you know anything about xmms?
[07:53] <BrightEyes`> inteliwasp: if thats a good reason to hack java when those who will do it should get a life
[07:54] <Jucato> inteliwasp: Sun *will* GPL Java. (later today)
[07:54] <AgentOrange> ello
[07:54] <Admiral_Chicago> inteliwasp: i used it for a while yes
[07:54] <AgentOrange> does kubuntu have flash support yet?
[07:54] <inteliwasp> know how to diagnose error codes?
[07:54] <noiesmo> AgentOrange, flash 9 is available
[07:55] <AgentOrange> i installed this distro for PPC over a year ago, its probably come a log way since then
[07:55] <AgentOrange> nice! :)
[07:55] <Admiral_Chicago> what is the problem
[07:55] <Admiral_Chicago> AgentOrange: yes there is a beta out
[07:56] <inteliwasp> ever since upgrading to edgy, i keep getting this when i try to start xmms:  Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)  serial 2384 error_code 8 request_code 72 minor_code 0
[07:56] <Admiral_Chicago> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[07:56] <AgentOrange> i dont know what version of kubuntu PPC i installed back then, but i guess the latest distro will support flash
[07:57] <Admiral_Chicago> AgentOrange: it's really Adobe's decision not the Ubuntu community
[07:57] <AgentOrange> Admiral_Chicago: i understand that
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> xmms try kcmshell xmms from the konsole
[08:01] <inteliwasp> Admiral_Chicago:  i get this: kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'kde-xmms'.
[08:02] <Admiral_Chicago> is xmms installed properly
[08:02] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xmms
[08:05] <inteliwasp> it ran, then i tried to run xmms again but the same error
[08:05] <AgentOrange> how can i ssh from kubuntu?
[08:06] <AgentOrange> do i need to install putty?
[08:06] <inteliwasp> !ssh > AgentOrange
[08:06] <AgentOrange> or is there some other preinstalled app that im over-looking
[08:06] <AgentOrange> thank you
[08:07] <inteliwasp> AgentOrange:  ssh is already installed with kubuntu
[08:08] <AgentOrange> thats what i thought
[08:08] <BrightEyes`> how can i add a local user to use startx? i can only log in to xfce as root
[08:08] <AgentOrange> what would i use to ssh to a server?
[08:08] <inteliwasp> just type "ssh <username@ipaddress>"
[08:09] <Admiral_Chicago> AgentOrange: no
[08:09] <Admiral_Chicago> at least when i ssh i don't need to
[08:09] <inteliwasp> am i wrong Admiral_Chicago ?
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> inteliwasp: have you considered a purge?
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> it'll delete your settings though
[08:10] <inteliwasp> Admiral_Chicago:  yes i did already
[08:10] <AgentOrange> wow
[08:10] <AgentOrange> ssh runs so much smoother than putty on windows
[08:10] <AgentOrange> im impressed
[08:10] <xsacha> !stream
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stream - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <xsacha> anyone know how to use stream?
[08:11] <xsacha> stream -half -start 17:03:00 -end 17:11:00 1280 1024 ~/audio ~/video                   gives: open: No such file or directory
[08:11] <Admiral_Chicago> AgentOrange: i sshed on my computer versus a live CD, it is pretty nice
[08:11] <inteliwasp> Admiral_Chicago:  i'll try the purge again
[08:12] <Admiral_Chicago> inteliwasp: what command do you use?
[08:12] <inteliwasp> adept
[08:13] <AgentOrange> erm
[08:13] <AgentOrange> Admiral_Chicago: how do i adjust my volume?
[08:13] <AgentOrange> its been a loooong time since ive booted this thing up
[08:13] <Admiral_Chicago> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:13] <Admiral_Chicago> try that
[08:13] <AgentOrange> well isnt there some simple mixer slidebar?
[08:14] <AgentOrange> i just want to turn the volume down
[08:14] <AgentOrange> my sound is perfect
[08:14] <inteliwasp> the little speaker in the system tray
[08:14] <Admiral_Chicago> try adding one to the pane
[08:14] <dart1007> this place is crowded!
[08:14] <AgentOrange> found it
[08:14] <AgentOrange> thanks inteliwasp
[08:14] <dart1007> whew! sorry my 1st time here..
[08:14] <xsacha> anyway know why i get this: http://nanobin.nanosouffle.net/1872  ?
[08:15] <inteliwasp> dart1007:  usually is...
[08:15] <xsacha> AgentOrange: kmixer
[08:15] <xsacha> kmix
[08:16] <Admiral_Chicago> xsacha: no idea
[08:16] <dart1007> don't mind me, just lurking for now...
[08:16] <inteliwasp> Admiral_Chicago:  is there a way to force downloading the pakage again?
[08:16] <Admiral_Chicago> dart1007: check out #ubuntu
[08:16] <Admiral_Chicago> mch more croweded
[08:17] <Admiral_Chicago> inteliwasp: what's the error?
[08:18] <dart1007> found this place through ubuntucafe thread....
[08:18] <inteliwasp> nothing, it just that the last time i purged xmms, it did not download a new packege
[08:19] <AgentOrange> time to get to sleep
[08:19] <AgentOrange> work in the morning
[08:19] <AgentOrange> thanks for the help guys
[08:19] <BrokenPipe> Has anyone successfully installed *ubuntu 6.10 from CD on an AMD64 machine, or know why the process would be haning on my Athlon64 X2 machine?
[08:20] <dart1007> #ubuntuforums
[08:21] <inteliwasp> Admiral_Chicago:  i was also wondering if the packege was corupt...
[08:22] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm maybe you can do a checksum if you downloaded it then compiled from source
[08:24] <Admiral_Chicago> well try a purge and another install
[08:24] <Admiral_Chicago> that's what i would do
[08:24] <inteliwasp> do you know what program controls the special keys on the keyboard? ie: the volume keys?
[08:25] <Admiral_Chicago> xkbd iirc
[08:25] <brett_> i need to get the latest video drivers for my machine but i am not sure what card i have
[08:25] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't think it's a program though
[08:26] <inteliwasp> Admiral_Chicago:  nope not on my laptop...
[08:26] <brett_> is there a way for linux to auto get them? i am using kubuntu
[08:26] <Admiral_Chicago> this may helphttp://keytouch.sourceforge.net/
[08:27] <Admiral_Chicago> this may help http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/
[08:27] <dart1007> #ubuntu
[08:27] <brett_> Admiral_Chicago: thanks
[08:27] <inteliwasp> Admiral_Chicago:  ya thats what i was thinking of useing, but i wanted to disable the one that comes with edgy...
[08:27] <brett_> Admiral_Chicago: or was that not for me
[08:28] <xsacha> !info stream
[08:28] <ubotu> Package stream does not exist in any distro I know
[08:28] <inteliwasp> brett_:  that "keytouch was for me
[08:28] <inteliwasp> !stream
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stream - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <brett_> inteliwasp: yeah i took a look and realized my mistake
[08:28] <Admiral_Chicago> brett_: no that link was for someone else
[08:29] <lish> sorry. How to speak "1234.56" in English ?
[08:30] <AWOSLappy> I need to record something from Flash in to a waveform file (.WAV).  How would I accomplish this?  I tried Audacity but Flash locks the sound driver.
[08:30] <inteliwasp> brett_:  do you really need 3D video support?
[08:30] <unix_infidel> AWOSLappy: what flash format?
[08:30] <unix_infidel> flv files?
[08:30] <xsacha> !vstream
[08:30] <ubotu> vstream: bttv video capture utility aimed at making MPEGs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.5-4 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 168 kB
[08:30] <brett_> inteliwasp: yeah... i want to play tremulous
[08:30] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel, I have no clue.  It's in Firefox.
[08:31] <unix_infidel> AWOSLappy: there isnt really a lot of great flash dev stuff for nix.
[08:31] <unix_infidel> AWOSLappy: what kind of content is it, how big is the file.
[08:31] <inteliwasp> !ati > brett_
[08:31] <Admiral_Chicago> gotta run all
[08:31] <unix_infidel> what version is the format, and is if swf or flv, can you get access to the flv files. otherwise, the content maybe locked to read only.
[08:32] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel, I cannot actually get the flash file.  it's on the Internet.  I need to record from the Mixer.
[08:32] <brett_> inteliwasp: i dont understand... you want me to type that in the console?
[08:32] <unix_infidel> AWOSLappy: URL?
[08:32] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel -> http://www.purevolume.com/riesinclair
[08:32] <inteliwasp> no that is a web address
[08:33] <unix_infidel> ahh, you want to jack a music file :P
[08:33] <brett_> inteliwasp: !ati > brett  ?.... do you mean www.ati.com?
[08:33] <inteliwasp> brett_:  did you get the address?
[08:33] <brett_> inteliwasp: ubotu gave me one
[08:33] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel, well she's an indie artist, not planning on releasing an album.  And if she did I would definitely buy it, I love EVERY song she's ever made.
[08:33] <brett_> inteliwasp: did you mean that one?
[08:34] <inteliwasp> brett_:  no this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:34] <brett_> inteliwasp: ok cool i got it
[08:34] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel, so can I record from the mixer without using Audacity or not?
[08:35] <unix_infidel> AWOSLappy: i dont think so, might ask in #lad about that.
[08:35] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel okay thanks.
[08:35] <unix_infidel> as for jacking the content direct download i'm lokoing at the source.
[08:35] <AWOSLappy> hehe really?
[08:35] <inteliwasp> brett_:  you can use "lspci" to find your excat card
[08:36] <brett_> inteliwasp: lspci gave me alot of information-
[08:36] <unix_infidel> http://www.purevolume.com/swf/artistPlayer.swf?artistId=244631
[08:36] <brett_> inteliwasp: kinda hard to sift through but i am looking
[08:36] <unix_infidel> AWOSLappy: i've isolated the swf and as2 value pass.
[08:36] <inteliwasp> look for "ati" or "nvidia"
[08:36] <unix_infidel> this box doesnt have flash 8 or i might have better luck.
[08:37] <Acker> Hi all, I'm looking for a good guide to install properly my graphics drivers on my laptop :) (ATi X1400)
[08:37] <inteliwasp> !ati > Acker
[08:37] <brett_> inteliwasp: i found both ati and nvidia... but i have two graphics cards
[08:38] <inteliwasp> brett_:  now i am out of my legue... i don't know how to work with 2 cards...
[08:38] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel well thanks for trying.
[08:38] <unix_infidel> AWOSLappy: actually.
[08:38] <unix_infidel> i'd recommend using a packget sniffer.
[08:38] <unix_infidel> packet*
[08:39] <xsacha> yeah it gets the song from s6.purevolume.com
[08:39] <unix_infidel> xsacha: actually its obfuscated on multiple sub-domains.
[08:39] <AWOSLappy> What format would it be sniffing from?  and is that kind of program in the Ubuntu repos?
[08:39] <unix_infidel> s6, s52, sNN
[08:39] <AWOSLappy> s/Ubuntu/Kubuntu/
[08:39] <unix_infidel> ethereal or whatever its called now
[08:40] <unix_infidel> it should be really easy now...
[08:40] <brett_> inteliwasp: well your link said to install the open source ati driver
[08:40] <unix_infidel> good luck.
[08:40] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel okay thanks :)
[08:40] <unix_infidel> AWOSLappy: np, she ain't bad on the eyes either :)
[08:40] <eilker> !vc > eilker
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <inteliwasp> brett_:  paste the lines from lspci that show ati
[08:41] <brett_> ok
[08:41] <brett_> 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 PD/PRO TMDS
[08:41] <inteliwasp> er...
[08:41] <AWOSLappy> Wow, Rage 128 PRO.  I have one of those in my Nov 1997 desktop.  :P
[08:41] <inteliwasp> old card
[08:42] <AWOSLappy> Too easy to set up for Linux, heck XFree86 3.5 natively supported it
[08:42] <unix_infidel> AWOSLappy: heh, old man.
[08:42] <brett_> inteliwasp: the other one is newer
[08:42] <unix_infidel> showing your age :P
[08:42] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel heh, I have a Tseng Labs ET4000 on my 486 that I still use.
[08:42] <brett_> inteliwasp: so what should i do?
[08:43] <inteliwasp> brett_:  looking
[08:43] <unix_infidel> AWOSLappy: AWOS is an acronym for?
[08:43] <xsacha> lol http://riesinclair.com/
[08:43] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel, heck I still have the 8088 with an 'Enhanced' Video BIOS (well, I highly doubt CGA could be enhanced :P )
[08:43] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel, AndreW Operating System.
[08:43] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel, we have a channel here (#AWOS) if you wanted to check it out.
[08:43] <scheuri> hi all
[08:47] <inteliwasp> brett_:  type glxinfo into konsole
[08:48] <brett_> inteliwasp: ok
[08:49] <brett_> inteliwasp: what line do you want me to paste
[08:49] <scheuri> does someone know the differences between "i686" and "server" kernel images in dapper (6.06.1)? Is there a website for that?
[08:50] <inteliwasp> anything about 3d support?
[08:50] <AWOSLappy> scheuri, IIRC (but I'm not sure) the server one doesn't come with a GUI.
[08:50] <inteliwasp> brett_:  here paste the output here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:51] <brett_> inteliwasp: the only line with 3d mentioned is this one: (i will paste output as well)
[08:51] <brett_> inteliwasp: GL_EXT_texture, GL_EXT_texture3D, GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp,
[08:51] <scheuri> AWOSLappy: well, I am talking about kernel images...not the release-"editions"...:)...but thanks though
[08:52] <inteliwasp> brett_:  and send me the link it makes
[08:52] <brett_> inteliwasp: ok
[08:52] <brett_> inteliwasp: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31398/
[08:53] <Acker> how do I build a run file to deb package?
[08:54] <inteliwasp> brett_:  have you tried to play the game yet? i think it might work... the card is too old to get drivers installed anyway
[08:55] <brett_> inteliwasp: yes. the mouse is really laggy
[08:55] <brett_> inteliwasp: i will try to get into the game and maybe it might be different... hold on
[08:55] <inteliwasp> brett_:  look at the options for getting details lower
[08:57] <inteliwasp> falling asleep while doing tech support is not recomened...   i really need some sleep...
[08:57] <scheuri> does someone know the differences between "i686" and "server" kernel images in dapper (6.06.1)? Is there a website for that? I am especially interested if one of those two images treads more than 4GB RAM differently...
[08:58] <brett_> inteliwasp: no go
[08:58] <brett_> inteliwasp: SO SLOW
[08:59] <unix_infidel> scheuri: what "server" kernel
[09:00] <inteliwasp> brett_:  well i am out of ideas, sorry, you might want to check back here later to see if anyone else can help you, as for me, i need some sack time so i can think strait
[09:00] <scheuri> unix_infidel: if you list all linux-images you have k7, i386, i686 and server and bigIron-server
[09:00] <brett_> inteliwasp: ok well thanks for trying....
[09:00] <scheuri> inteliwasp: good night
[09:00] <inteliwasp> night all!
[09:01] <unix_infidel> scheuri: my guess would be that 686 is compiled with a 686 specific march flag and the image file is just that, a source image
[09:02] <scheuri> unix_infidel: well, yes..that is true...i686 supports SMP as well as server does...but are they both able to use more than 4 GB RAM? is there a way to check that? or find out?
[09:02] <unix_infidel> when i say image i mean just like an iso for a live cd
[09:02] <unix_infidel> scheuri: both are save for 4GB+ IIRC
[09:02] <unix_infidel> safe*
[09:02] <scheuri> unix_infidel: well, it says "image" when listing with aptitude search...;)
[09:02] <unix_infidel> however, you will usually only get a performance increase with 64bit and 4GB+ memory
[09:03] <scheuri> unix_infidel: I am aware of that...but 64bit Ubuntu is no option
[09:03] <unix_infidel> scheuri: that's a good choice imho.
[09:03] <scheuri> unix_infidel: what? not going for 64bit? :)
[09:03] <unix_infidel> scheuri: the answer to your question is, yes go a head and install ubuntu and begin cooking.
[09:03] <unix_infidel> no you wont have any problems :)
[09:04] <unix_infidel> yes, use the kernel most appropriate for your platform, and i'd recommend compiling your own if its a production server
[09:04] <scheuri> unix_infidel: it is already installed...;)...32bi however...its just that it runs now on a i686 kernel
[09:04] <unix_infidel> compile your own.
[09:04] <unix_infidel> make it as lean as needed.
[09:04] <scheuri> unix_infidel: oh, I see we differ here very much..:)...I would not compile my own if not absolutely necessary
[09:05] <unix_infidel> scheuri: i was that way too....things change.
[09:05] <unix_infidel> bleh bleh bleh, source!?  compiling!? i dont dun run gentooooo.
[09:05] <scheuri> unix_infidel: I am sure they will....but not on that server I am on now...;)
[09:05] <scheuri> unix_infidel: I am not against compiling per se...I am just cautios with it as it has some support implications...
[09:06] <unix_infidel> give a compile kernel a try on a non essential box.
[09:06] <unix_infidel> run software that bets fits your hardware and needs.
[09:06] <unix_infidel> no better advice than that.
[09:06] <AWOSLappy> Okay I have a saved hex dump.  the problem is, the hexdump is human readable, so the result is the file is not machine readable.  Is there a program somewhere that can fix this?  As in, a program that could take the output of say Hexedit and then translate that in to say an executable file?
[09:07] <scheuri> well, I agree here...but it is not me supporting the machine afterswards...so...I am not compiling anything unless totally necessary...:)
[09:07] <unix_infidel> scheuri: you need Ubuntu to support it?
[09:07] <unix_infidel> meaning the Ubuntu support team?
[09:07] <unix_infidel> (paid support)
[09:07] <scheuri> unix_infidel: well, no, not really...but a team of linux newcomers...
[09:08] <scheuri> unix_infidel: they will start with "aptitude update && upgrade"
[09:08] <vegansickle> hey
[09:08] <AWOSLappy> Hello vegansickle.
[09:08] <scheuri> unix_infidel: and then start compiling and fixing a compiled kernel...;)
[09:08] <unix_infidel> scheuri: newcomers who dont know the in's and out's of handling the a linux system and get paid for it shouldnt get paid for it.
[09:08] <vegansickle> anyone know about 6.10 compiz-kde?
[09:08] <scheuri> unix_infidel: well, I would agree...it is just not that easy in this case...it is a special situation...:)
[09:08] <sephrys> should i compile it?
[09:08] <sephrys> how would i if i dont have the dev files installEd?
[09:09] <unix_infidel> scheuri: if the 686 kernel is giving you a problem, then find one that isnt, make sure that its not some extraneous reason though.
[09:09] <unix_infidel> secondly, you can always use some reputable 3rd party repo that publishes kernels that jive with your needs.
[09:10] <scheuri> unix_infidel: there is no problem with i686 so far...it is just that I thought there might be an issue having more than 4 GB of RAM and using this kernel
[09:10] <unix_infidel> scheuri: nope.  none.
[09:10] <AWOSLappy> As in, the content of the file is a bunch of      000003A6  62 ca 5a 72 b9 30 6a 9a  88 b9 70 d3 ca 86 66 64 b.Zr.0j. ..p...fd
[09:10] <unix_infidel> what kinda server is this?
[09:10] <scheuri> unix_infidel: well then...thanks a lot...:)....well, worst case would be to install "server" kernel and restart...;)
[09:11] <scheuri> unix_infidel: it is a pizza-box (1 Unit high) with a Xeon 2.8 GHz, 4 GB RAM...Intel
[09:11] <scheuri> soon to be two Xeon
[09:11] <unix_infidel> heh, i close those rackmount blades but ok.
[09:11] <scheuri> and 6 GB RAM
[09:11] <unix_infidel> for what purpose.
[09:11] <scheuri> Virtualisation
[09:11] <scheuri> (VMware Server)
[09:11] <unix_infidel> xen or ESX?
[09:11] <scheuri> heh...I wish it was XEN
[09:12] <unix_infidel> ESX or formerly GSX now 1.0
[09:12] <scheuri> VMware Server is former GSX AFAIK...:)
[09:12] <unix_infidel> scheuri: right, that's what i meant.
[09:12] <scheuri> ESX is not an option as it costs too much...it is a small business...
[09:12] <unix_infidel> vmware server?  ESX version or GSX Version, now called 1.0
[09:13] <unix_infidel> i guess that's how i should've stated it above.
[09:13] <scheuri> unix_infidel: check www.vmware.com under "Products" and "Free virtualisation" or soemthing
[09:13] <unix_infidel> scheuri: yea, might try XenE
[09:13] <scheuri> unix_infidel: I wish I could have used XEN, but since we virtualisate(?) Windows NT, 2000 and 2003 and have NO VT, there is no way to go
[09:14] <scheuri> it is a mix between options of software and costs...as usual...:)
[09:14] <unix_infidel> http://xensource.com/products/xen_enterprise/index.html
[09:14] <unix_infidel> scheuri: like i said, XenE
[09:14] <scheuri> oh, Enterprise...
[09:15] <scheuri> unix_infidel: well, yes...that will be surely an option for the future...
[09:15] <scheuri> unix_infidel: thanks for your help
[09:15] <unix_infidel> np
[09:15] <Steven_M> hi all
[09:16] <snpz_> hi
[09:16] <scheuri> hi Steven_M
[09:16] <scheuri> hi snpz_
[09:17] <Steven_M> has anyone here used vmware in Dapper?
[09:17] <seishinbyou> Yes
[09:18] <seishinbyou> and Edgy
[09:18] <scheuri> Steven_M: vmware in dapper? as in dapper host and vmware server installed?
[09:18] <xsacha> server? workstation here
[09:19] <seishinbyou> Workstation is what I am running, too
[09:19] <Steven_M> vmware player
[09:19] <seishinbyou> Okay.  Is there a problem?
[09:21] <Steven_M> I just want to know people's opinion of vmware player before I install it.
[09:21] <seishinbyou> Well, workstation, but player is fine enough when I have created an image
[09:21] <seishinbyou> I don't have to have a Win partition on my work PC anymore
[09:22] <seishinbyou> The few apps and custom in-house progs run fine through the vmware'd WinXP, so I'm very happy
[09:23] <snpz_> i'm thinking of the same
[09:23] <snpz_> because SPSS i need for my studies
[09:23] <snpz_> seishinbyou, u are using vmware on edgy?
[09:23] <seishinbyou> snpz_: Yes
[09:24] <snpz_> and no problems during installation?
[09:24] <seishinbyou> Nope
[09:24] <snpz_> so then edgy it is on my laptop
[09:24] <snpz_> :D
[09:24] <seishinbyou> Either one is fine, actually.  I had no problems on Dapper (well, one minor one)
[09:25] <snpz_> i hate that i have broadcom 4311 chip wifi integrated card on my laptop
[09:25] <snpz_> so wifi works only with ndiswrapper
[09:26] <Steven_M> seishinbyou: is that the player or full version?
[09:26] <seishinbyou> Steven_m > Full version of Workstation
[09:27] <seishinbyou> So far I have a few vmware images used in the company to help speed up development
[09:30] <AWOSLappy> snpz_, are you on Dapper or Edgy?
[09:30] <snpz_> at home on edgy
[09:30] <AWOSLappy> :-(
[09:30] <snpz_> here at work i have to use Win
[09:30] <snpz_> :(
[09:31] <AWOSLappy> I thought Edgy had better support for Broadcom?
[09:32] <snpz_> AWOSLappy, nope
[09:32] <AWOSLappy> :-(
[09:32] <snpz_> i hope that there will be support in kernel soon
[09:32] <AWOSLappy> Oh that would be cool.
[09:33] <snpz_> yesterday checked 2.6.18 changelog
[09:33] <snpz_> nothing
[09:33] <snpz_> :(
[09:33] <shinobi2> e_^
[09:34] <shinobi2> e_e
[09:34] <shinobi2> e_E
[09:34] <seishinbyou> Mac OSX runs on vmware too...sort of...with a "questionably legal" x86 patch...but there are a couple of Mac boxes in the office anyways
[09:36] <Steven_M> seishinbyou: do you think  the preprietry kernel modulous that vmware player uses could do something drasitc to my Dapper system? That's what I'm really worried about.
[09:37] <AWOSLappy> seishinbyou, Um, don't they *make* Mac OS X for x86 now, considering thats what Macs use?
[09:38] <canine_kouji> AWOSLappy: I'm pretty sure everybody here has enough common sense to know he is talking about the non-mac hardware patches
[09:39] <canine_kouji> seishinbyou: does it run slow as pearpc? :)
[09:39] <AWOSLappy> canine_kouji, did you just insult me?  I was honestly asking, I had no clue about non-Mac hardware patches.  You have to tell the OS that there is certain hardware?
[09:40] <canine_kouji> AWOSLappy: macs with x86 have special hardware which isn't exactly out on the open market yet.
[09:40] <canine_kouji> also there seems to be some CPU instruction like SSE3 hindering peopel from installing osx on the common pc
[09:41] <canine_kouji> every time there has been a patch to make osx work on a normal pc, apple pulls the darwin souce.  This whole pirate vs apple fight is plain dumb.
[09:42] <canine_kouji> If people want to pirate, I say give them 20 years in the slammer
[09:42] <canine_kouji> theres is PLENTY of opensource software, and there is no excuse to be using pirated software.
[09:43] <AWOSLappy> I say Apple should make a fully-compatible x86 version but charge money for it if they would lose so much money on it.
[09:43] <snpz_> does bcm43xx driver in kernel also supports bcm4311 chip wifi cards?
[09:43] <AWOSLappy> snpz_, From experience, NO.
[09:44] <snpz_> AWOSLappy, :(
[09:44] <seishinbyou> canine_kouji: pig dog slow, but it runs...kind of
[09:44] <canine_kouji> seishinbyou: damn :(
[09:44] <snpz_> i'm really suprised that bcm4311 is not supported by kernel
[09:45] <snpz_> pretty popular wifi chip
[09:45] <AWOSLappy> canine_kouji -- Wouldn't that be a lot better?  To make an x86 version?  Don't they realise that they could have more market share if more computers could run the bloody thing?
[09:45] <seishinbyou> Steven_M: In theory, yes.  In practice, no :)
[09:45] <canine_kouji> seishinbyou: air force 1?
[09:45] <AWOSLappy> snpz_ Yeah.  My Linksys WPC54Gv3 has it.
[09:45] <canine_kouji> AWOSLappy: apple used to sale licenses to others
[09:45] <AWOSLappy> canine_kouji, Yes the 4311 is the AirForce One 54g.
[09:46] <snpz_> my nx6310 from HP has this also
[09:47] <AWOSLappy> snpz_, wow, factory integrated?  That's pretty sucky.
[09:47] <snpz_> yes
[09:47] <snpz_> :(
[09:47] <canine_kouji> AWOSLappy: back when apple used to license their OS to others. Peopel would make apple compatible computers. Peopel were making BETTER hardware than apple. Apple was loosing profits because they didn't charge enough. Apple then stopped the license program and started only using their own hardware
[09:47] <snpz_> works only using ndiswrapper
[09:47] <snpz_> it sucks
[09:47] <AWOSLappy> snpz_ it works using ndiswrapper?  News to me.
[09:47] <canine_kouji> it is a laptop though isn't it?
[09:47] <AWOSLappy> canine_kouji, really?  I had no clue.
[09:48] <snpz_> http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/Kernel_Configuration_Guide#Wireless_LAN:_Broadcom_BCM4311
[09:48] <snpz_> hmmmm
[09:48] <canine_kouji> AWOSLappy: apple is better selling for their hardware only, as they don't have to support 20 million other drivers
[09:48] <snpz_> AWOSLappy, it works
[09:48] <canine_kouji> AWOSLappy: apple hardware rocks too. especially the power connector on the new macbooks
[09:49] <AWOSLappy> snpz_, it didn't for me.    Goodnight all.
[09:51] <snpz_> c u
[09:51] <snpz_> canine_kouji
[09:51] <AWOSLappy> canine_kouji well you could dist-upgrade but that would suck.
[09:51] <canine_kouji> AWOSLappy: I heard it would :)
[09:51] <snpz_> just edit you sources.list
[09:51] <AWOSLappy> canine_kouji dist-upgrade'ing could break the whole system.
[09:52] <AWOSLappy> Goodnight
[09:52] <snpz_> then do update and dist-upgrade
[09:52] <canine_kouji> I'm not sure what I would need in order for it to not suck
[09:52] <Lam_> does this work? (Java)   Integer intObj = 5; int intNum = intObj;
[09:52] <Lam_> oh duh. i can just compile it and test
[09:52] <canine_kouji> eww java
[09:53] <canine_kouji> thank god I can pick whatever I want to program in :)
[09:54] <seishinbyou> Steven_M: Yes
[09:54] <seishinbyou> I did a clean install for Edgy though; the upgrade bombed out horribly
[09:54] <seishinbyou> individually, though, I had VMWare running on both Dapper and Edgy
[09:54] <james> ok i am new to linux and have tried several other livecd combos and have come up against a wall anyone game for a question?
[09:55] <Steven_M> seishinbyou: thanks very much for your help
[09:55] <Steven_M> :)
[09:56] <james> assuming yes i have a dvd burned on a mac osx system so the files are written as root
[09:56] <canine_kouji> maybe I'll just keep running 6.04 until 7.whatever
[09:56] <james> i use vlc , mplayer , and kaffeine as media programs
[09:57] <james> how can i play these root files? without converting each one to a user format?
[09:58] <james> it gets annoying having to enter a password for each file i wish to play
[09:58] <sephrys> whats beryl like?
[09:59] <james> hello anyone there who can help?
[10:00] <seishinbyou> Beryl is everything to all men, and perhaps to one special lady
[10:00] <seishinbyou> Seriously, it's okay, but all the features used together makes the whole environment a bit distracting
[10:01] <flaccid> Jucato: you alive?
[10:01] <Jucato> flaccid: barely :)
[10:01] <flaccid> hehe, can i bug you for those style components that edgy uses. i got a dapper install here
[10:02] <Jucato> flaccid: Plastik
[10:02] <flaccid> oh yeah
[10:02] <flaccid> ty
[10:02] <Jucato> no problem
[10:04] <flaccid> Jucato: how do i get that gradient in the window decoration
[10:05] <flaccid> oh plastik colour scheme too
[10:05] <Jucato> flaccid: er no. the color scheme is Kubuntu's own
[10:05] <Jucato> kubuntuColors.kcsrc
[10:05] <flaccid> hmmm how do i get the gradient in the title bar back
[10:05] <Jucato> flaccid: and although both Dapper and Edgy use Crystal window decorations, kwwii made changes to the Edgy version
[10:06] <flaccid> hmmm
[10:06] <flaccid> can't seem to get dapper to look like edgy
[10:06] <Jucato> well, you won't be able to exactly make it look like Edgy, specially the window buttons.
[10:07] <Jucato> I'm not sure what other changes were done to the Crystal engine in Edgy
[10:08] <james> i'll try again is there any one who can help we permission problems?
[10:08] <james> with
[10:09] <eilker> fdoving: r u there, i wanna share my solution for kde logging problem:))) sometimes life is funny
[10:10] <binary2k2> james: what's the problem?
[10:10] <james> ok thank you for responding
[10:11] <eka> YOUR SAUCE WILL MIX WITH OURS AND WE'LL MAKE A GOOD GULOSH BAYBEH
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> !caps > eka
[10:11] <james> i have a data dvd quite a few that were burned on a mac osX machine and the files were written as root
[10:12] <eka> yikes
[10:12] <binary2k2> james: yes
[10:12] <eka> !caps > eka
[10:12] <eka>  ... awesome o.o
[10:12] <eka> !caps > admiral_chicago
[10:13] <james> i have tried running krusader in root mode it reads the files but can not access kaffeine , mplayer , or vlc because they do not have root access
[10:13] <james> when you open the dvd as a folder it show the files as locked
[10:13] <binary2k2> james: is the dvd mounted as root?
[10:14] <binary2k2> james: or user?
[10:14] <james> not sure
[10:14] <james> how would you mount it as user
[10:15] <binary2k2> james: from the cli you add -o uid=1000 to the end of the command
[10:15] <binary2k2> james: or in /etc/fstab add "user" to the options
[10:15] <james> what is cli
[10:15] <binary2k2> !cli
[10:15] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:16] <james> yea am familiar with terminal
[10:16] <james> just never heard it called that
[10:16] <binary2k2> james: it's short hand :P
[10:16] <james> well thanks will check it out
[10:17] <james> well any ideas because media burned on a pc doesn't have locked files
[10:18] <binary2k2> james: what filesystem did you use to burn it? iso udf? and what extentions eg rockridge?
[10:19] <james> iso9660
[10:19] <james> here is my line from fstab dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[10:20] <binary2k2> james: do you know if you enabled rockridge? because that can store file permissions
[10:20] <james> so what should i change if anything
[10:20] <binary2k2> james: the fstab line it correct
[10:20] <james> no i don't
[10:21] <james> so i have maybe 50 burned dvds with data i can't read ... any help what now
[10:21] <binary2k2> james: unmount it and try mounting it wilth the command "sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0  -t iso9660-o uid=1000"
[10:21] <binary2k2> james: replace hdc with hdc
[10:21] <binary2k2> *hdd
[10:22] <binary2k2> cant type for crap :P
[10:22] <james> ok i will try that be right back
[10:23] <james> says can unmount device busy
[10:24] <binary2k2> james: do you have any app using the dvd?
[10:26] <james> just checked running process and no
[10:27] <eka> a long ass fuckin time ago in a town called kickapoo there lived humble family, religious through and through, but there lived a blacksheep and knew just what to do, he was called young jb and he wrote a tasty jam, all the planets did align
[10:28] <binary2k2> james: no kinqu open or kaffine?
[10:28] <james> nope
[10:28] <gsuveg> re
[10:28] <binary2k2> james: try the command "sudo lsof|grep hdd"
[10:29] <binary2k2> james: and "sudo lsof|grep cdrom"
[10:29] <gsuveg> its possible to sync mobile calendar via bluethoot with kontact ?
[10:30] <james> yeah it shows konqueror and krusader
[10:30] <binary2k2> try closing/killing them
[10:31] <binary2k2> then unmount
[10:31] <james> says insufficient permission to kill krusader
[10:31] <binary2k2> james: use sudo
[10:31] <james> sudo what?
[10:32] <binary2k2> james: sudo killall krusader
[10:32] <james> thanks
[10:35] <ferro> i
[10:35] <ferro> hi
[10:35] <james> thank that worked
[10:36] <Admiral_Chicago> hello
[10:36] <james> it mounted the drive correctly and no locked files
[10:36] <binary2k2> kewl :D
[10:36] <ferro> have a problem. CAN SOMEONE HELP ME?
[10:36] <Jucato> !ask
[10:36] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:37] <ferro> ok..
[10:37] <james> ok mr binary i have been working around this problem for a long time
[10:37] <max_> what do i need to do to add wmv/mp3's to burn an Audio cd in k3b, when i try it says <Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format>
[10:38] <james> so should i just run a script every time i want to open my dvd?
[10:38] <ferro> I tried to install gnome graphic interface on kubuntu. I din't succeed and I unintaled gnome packages..
[10:38] <Admiral_Chicago> ferro: we can try, but there is no garuntee we can help
[10:38] <ferro> ..now kde doesn't work prperly|
[10:38] <max_> what do i need to do to add wmv/mp3's to burn an Audio cd in k3b, when i try it says <Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format>
[10:39] <ferro> thanks adm
[10:39] <binary2k2> james: are you the only user at that pc?
[10:39] <james> yes\
[10:40] <james> can i add a line in fstab
[10:40] <binary2k2> james: just add uid=1000 to the options in fstab then
[10:40] <james> cool
[10:40] <binary2k2> james: like udf,iso9660 user,noauto,uid=1000
[10:40] <max_> what do i need to do to add wmv/mp3's to burn an Audio cd in k3b, when i try it says <Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format>
[10:41] <eka> !max_ > caps
[10:41] <max_> caps?
[10:41] <eka> neg don't worry bout it ;)
[10:41] <eka> !james > caps
[10:41] <eka> rawrawr
[10:41] <eka> it's not working
[10:42] <max_> caps!
[10:42] <max_> !caps
[10:42] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:42] <eka> !caps
[10:42] <eka> RAWR
[10:42] <eka> hmm no dice
[10:42] <eka> !caps
[10:42] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:42] <eka> ahah
[10:43] <james> will that limit the device to only that filesystem
[10:43] <james> ??
[10:43] <ferro> Someone can help me?
[10:44] <james> cool did it
[10:44] <james> so simple
[10:45] <binary2k2> james: it will just always mount with all files owned by you
[10:45] <james> righteous dude
[10:46] <Admiral_Chicago> please don't flod the channel
[10:46] <james> so while i have you what is the short answer as to the difference btwn kernel headers and sources? if you feel like it?
[10:46] <Admiral_Chicago> ferro: what is the probelm
[10:46] <Admiral_Chicago> any symtoms in general
[10:47] <james> not that important just curious i can read about it on line thanks again
[10:47] <ferro> no application bar.. only firexox icon
[10:47] <eka> !caps
[10:47] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:47] <james> bye and thanks again
[10:48] <ferro> i surely unistall same important package
[10:49] <ferro> ...no "start" button
[10:50] <Admiral_Chicago> ferro: add a panel
[10:50] <ferro> how can i do it?
[10:50] <Admiral_Chicago> right click on the desktop, add a panel, i'm not sure which noe
[10:54] <ferro> Admiral: Thank you now everything is right
[10:55] <johey> How do I get rid of the security update icon in the tray? In Dapper, it disapeared after I installed the updated packages, but now it's still there, telling me there are packages to update... Like it doesn't care that I really have updated them.
[10:56] <eka> this is not the greatest song in the world, no, this is just a tribute
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> ferro: np
[10:56] <eka> !caps
[10:56] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:57] <kalbo> jucato !
[10:57] <eka> juuuuuuuuuuuuucato!
[10:57] <Jucato> dude_: hi
[10:58] <DeVaDe> I need little help
[10:58] <eka> excellent
[10:58] <eka> ask the question
[10:58] <DeVaDe> Can Kubuntu be a DG from 2 networx
[10:58] <DeVaDe> a two client VPN connections
[10:58] <DeVaDe> and one computer with Windows use them to connect to the two different
[10:59] <DeVaDe> networx
[11:01] <DeVaDe> Is it impsoble?
[11:04] <ferro> amiral: may i ask??
[11:06] <ferro> Admiral: still troubles...
[11:06] <Admiral_Chicago> ferro: go ahead
[11:08] <ferro> now i have my pannel but it is empty i tried to add applications to it but it looks different and i cann't find adept!
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> ferro: alt + F2
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> kdesu adept_manager
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> you probably added the wrong panel there are several of them
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure, i'm not on KDE right now to help you look around thing
[11:17] <Steven_M> are there any Synchronet packages for ubuntu?
[11:17] <Admiral_Chicago> going to bed
[11:18] <Steven_M> hi all
[11:20] <eilker> what is the difference between kubuntu and kubuntu server ? is it only gui and lamp server ? if i install lamp server on kubuntu, does it become kubuntu server ?
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> eilker: i think the server has no GUI
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> but don't quote me on that
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> bbl i'm off to bed
[11:20] <eilker> i know it, ok:)
[11:21] <ferro> Admiral: my client disconnected... hope i haven't lost your answer
[11:22] <Admiral_Chicago> ferro: alt + F2
[11:22] <Admiral_Chicago> kdesu adept_manager
[11:22] <Admiral_Chicago> you probably added the wrong panel there are several of them
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure how much more i can help, i'm not on KDE atm
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> plus i have to go to be soon
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> like now, i have to be up in like 3 hours
[11:26] <ferro> ok buy
[11:27] <Kabal> Hi all, I've upgraded <IP_ADDRESS> to 6.10 and it all went ok.. but now there's a power manager that starts every time..
[11:27] <Kabal> where can I find this shortcut to remove..? so it won't start at startup.
[11:28] <Kabal> I've tried to search for it.. but I cannot find it :(
[11:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Kabal: try ~/.AutoStart
[11:31] <Admiral_Chicago> i think that's what it's called
[11:32] <Jucato> guidance-power-manager.desktop in /usr/share/autostart
[11:35] <Kabal> Jucato: thanx that's the path I was looking for..
[11:35] <Kabal> I also see bluetooth here.. can I remove that too without probs? (I don't use bluetooth)
[11:39] <Kabal> Jucato: nm problem solved :)
[11:41] <blackflag> is there a way to see the boot messages during booting of edgy?
[11:42] <eilker> in consol which command shows my wan ip  ?
[11:43] <eilker> i am behind a router
[11:45] <JohnFlux> how do i reinstall a package including all the configuration files
[11:46] <Jucato> JohnFlux: sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package> ?
[11:46] <JohnFlux> i want to reinstall my /etc/cups/cups.conf
[11:46] <JohnFlux> doing --reinstall won't touch the configuration files
[11:46] <Jucato> JohnFlux: if you have config files in your ~/.kde, they will override the ones in /etc or /usr
[11:46] <blackflag> eilker: http://www.wieistmeineip.de/
[11:47] <JohnFlux> i want to reinstall the /etc/cups/cups.conf file
[11:47] <eilker> blackflag: i try to get it from consol
[11:48] <Jucato> JohnFlux: you can download whatever package installs that, then open the package in Ark and just extract that specific file
[11:48] <JohnFlux> dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/cupsys_1.2.4-2ubuntu3_amd64.deb
[11:48] <JohnFlux> there we go
[11:48] <JohnFlux> there's probably a better way though
[11:48] <JohnFlux> but that worked
[11:48] <Jucato> :)
[11:55] <LaCReMeL> watch that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwvMRLAzMBw
[12:01] <Logi> hello
[12:01] <Logi> I've managed to mess up my X ocnfiguration by going into kcontrol and the display options there and mess with the dual-screen setup
[12:02] <Logi> I've reverted the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and now X and kdm start properly, but once I'm logged in it looks like some local settings kick in and one screen goes black but the mouse can travel there and the other gets a margin on the bottom and right where kde doesn't place any windows, but again the mous will travel there
[12:03] <Logi> any idea if there is something in ~/.kde that I can quietly delete and it'll forget about this stuff?
[12:03] <Logi> oh, and good morning :)
[12:03] <Logi> well.. it will be as soon as I get my machine back...
[12:07] <Logi> .kde/share/config/displayconfigrc looks like it...
[12:07] <Logi> if I don't come back within 6 hours, send an X rescue team!
[12:10] <Linux_Galore_> whats the difference between suspend and hybernate in the shutdown menu
[12:11] <Logi> ok, that did it
[12:12] <Linux_Galore_> hmm suspend works
[12:13] <Linux_Galore_> hybernate doesnt
[12:23] <n0va> help? edgy keeps locking up the desktop (-mouse) is there a fix for the nvidia driver?
[12:29] <MidMark> suspend keeps on the pc in theory, hibernate turn completely ogg
[12:29] <MidMark> off
[12:48] <brosioz>  how could i allow my user to edit /var/www ???
[12:49] <xwolf-> chmod?
[12:49] <oxy> how install netcat  ?
[12:49] <xwolf-> !x-window-system-core
[12:49] <ubotu> x-window-system-core: transitional package for Debian etch. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 44 kB
[12:50] <Ash-Fox> Would anyone happen to know of a PNG2GIF converter?
[12:51] <Hobbsee> brosioz: use sudo.
[12:51] <Hobbsee> !search netcat
[12:51] <ubotu> Found:
[12:52] <Hobbsee> !info netcat
[12:52] <ubotu> netcat: TCP/IP swiss army knife. In component main, is important. Version 1.10-32 (edgy), package size 64 kB, installed size 228 kB
[12:52] <Hobbsee> oxy: sudo apt-get install netcat, in a terminal
[12:54] <eka> !caps > fildo
[01:01] <NewBee> any software wehre i can listen to internet radio?
[01:03] <brosioz> NewBee: streamtuner
[01:03] <NewBee> thanks
[01:09] <usamahashimi> hi all
[01:10] <usamahashimi> can anyone tell me that how can i install my HP Scanjet 2400 scanner?
[01:14] <usamahashimi> !scanner
[01:14] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[01:18] <swanfl> this will sound silly but I'm no expert so I will ask. Gaim in adept is a little behind what's on the website. Will that cause a problem within adept if I compile and install it?
[01:21] <swanfl> that probably wasn't too clear. What I want to know is, if I uninstall gaim, then compile from source, will that mess things up in adept if and when adept gets the latest Gaim?
[01:21] <[cf] nightrid3r> swanfl: if its like 2 versions behind and you install from source an update might overwrite it with 1 version behind
[01:21] <swanfl> hmmm
[01:22] <swanfl> well, I will run checkinstall and keep the deb file
[01:22] <[cf] nightrid3r> swanfl: and adept doesn't know if u use source
[01:22] <[cf] nightrid3r> thats azlso possible, then adept knows :)
[01:22] <swanfl> :)
[01:23] <swanfl> I wonder why they are behind. (I'm not trolling, just curious)
[01:24] <[cf] nightrid3r> swanfl: it takes time to update packages, so maybe upload your deb to a repo and keep it up to date :)
[01:25] <swanfl> I can do that?
[01:25] <swanfl> way cool!
[01:25] <[GuS] > bonjour les gens...
[01:25] <[cf] nightrid3r> swanfl: thats how linux distro's work
[01:26] <swanfl> btw, prior to switching to kubuntu, I used another distro. I assume I have to use the same switches?
[01:26] <swanfl> specifically, spell checking?
[01:26] <[cf] nightrid3r> swanfl: it will also give you eternal fame
[01:26] <swanfl> that's cool :)
[01:27] <[cf] nightrid3r> !repositories
[01:27] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:29] <swanfl> how do I upload to a repository? that page only shows how to add them in adept
[01:29] <[cf] nightrid3r> looking into it
[01:29] <swanfl> er, add repositories to adept
[01:29] <gnomefreak> swanfl: you cant upload to a ubuntu repo there are only certain people that can
[01:29] <swanfl> thanks :)
[01:30] <swanfl> ok
[01:30] <swanfl> gotcha
[01:31] <[cf] nightrid3r> hmmm cant find anything :(
[01:32] <[cf] nightrid3r> swanfl: maybe try to find a 3rd party repo and get access there
[01:33] <swanfl> that's a thought :)
[01:33] <Jucato> unless it's absolutely necessary for you to use the latest GAIM version, I would not recommend adding 3rd party repos unless they specifically say that they have been built for Ubuntu. But even so, still be wary of just adding repos without consideration.
[01:36] <[cf] nightrid3r> swanfl: or put up your own repo with software you maintain :D
[01:41] <swanfl> hmmm
[01:42] <swanfl> thou hast piqued my curiosity :D
[01:44] <[cf] nightrid3r> swanfl: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.en.html
[01:44] <Jucato> swanfl: just remember that a lot of reasons could be behind why a package isn't updated as soon as a new release is um.. released: checking that the new release and its dependencies  won't break system stability and security, testing/building on different architectures, and someone to do all of the above :)
[01:45] <swanfl> well put, Jucato
[01:45] <swanfl> :)
[01:52] <delight> !realplayer
[01:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:53] <swanfl> gtg, thanks for all the help
[01:56] <delight> why is realplayer and opera (closed source) not released to edgy for easy install like it is for dapper ?
[01:57] <gnomefreak> delight: because they are closed source
[01:57] <Jucato> gnomefreak: any news when edgy-commercial might be enabled?
[01:58] <SHRIKEE> http://squid.sothq.net/memory.jpg. what does this mean?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> Jucato: thought it was already but no i havent heard anything.
[01:59] <Jucato> it's empty, last I checked
[01:59] <gnomefreak> SHRIKEE: looks like you dont have a swap
[01:59] <Jucato> I used Hawkwind's repo for Opera
[01:59] <SHRIKEE> yesterday i had
[01:59] <gnomefreak> Jucato: let me look in add/remove but its feisty so it may not be there
[01:59] <SHRIKEE> also, why is my memory full, i just booted the laptop, and thres nothing else running but konversation and konqueror
[02:00] <Jucato> gnomefreak: does it make any difference if I checked the repos online directly?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> SHRIKEE: because you dont have a swap
[02:00] <SHRIKEE> how do i get it back
[02:00] <gnomefreak> SHRIKEE: you have to make one but i cant remember how :( you can do it right in terminal iirc
[02:01] <SHRIKEE> ...
[02:01] <gnomefreak> !swap
[02:01] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[02:01] <SHRIKEE> hold on ill make another screen
[02:01] <Jucato> gnomefreak: I just noticed that a lot of people have been having problems with swap after upgrading to Edgy
[02:02] <SHRIKEE> http://squid.sothq.net/swap.jpg. looks like its fucked up?
[02:02] <gnomefreak> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main
[02:03] <gnomefreak> SHRIKEE: check top to see if there is a swap made
[02:03] <gnomefreak> Jucato: thats the edgy repo
[02:03] <Jucato> gnomefreak: it's not empty anymore?
[02:03] <gnomefreak> that i dont know
[02:03] <gnomefreak> im not running edgy on this box :(
[02:04] <SHRIKEE> im telling you, i had a swap yesterday, because my laptop wasnt as slow as it is now then
[02:04] <SHRIKEE> Mem:    507860k total,   483656k used,    24204k free,    15148k buffers
[02:04] <SHRIKEE> Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,   252372k cached
[02:04] <SHRIKEE>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S PU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
[02:04] <SHRIKEE> wth
[02:04] <Jucato> gnomefreak: the packages.gz for binary-i386 is empty
[02:05] <gnomefreak> k
[02:05] <Jucato> !pastebin | SHRIKEE
[02:05] <ubotu> SHRIKEE: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:05] <SHRIKEE> its 3 lines...
[02:05] <SHRIKEE> anyway, does anyone know why the swap is gone all of the sudden?
[02:05] <hades> from where i can download complete package ( kubuntu one ) from the net?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> hades: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:06] <gnomefreak> brb have something to tend to
[02:07] <Jucato> SHRIKEE: I think some people were having problems with swap too. I'm presuming that since you're using a laptop, you did something like suspend or hibernate?
[02:07] <SHRIKEE> nope
[02:07] <SHRIKEE> the only change i made since last night:
[02:07] <SHRIKEE> set cpu throttling when the lid is closed
[02:07] <SHRIKEE> i woke up 30 minutes ago and it was slow as hell
[02:08] <SHRIKEE> checked what wsa wrong
[02:08] <SHRIKEE> adn found this out
[02:08] <intelikey> it's ubuntu ?
[02:08] <Jucato> hm... can you type "blkid" in Konsole, then look for the line for your swap partition. check if it's TYPE="swsuspend"?
[02:08] <SHRIKEE> kubuntu
[02:08] <hades> from where i can download complete package ( kubuntu one ) from the net?
[02:08] <Jucato> hades: what complete package?
[02:08] <hades> from where i can download complete freeciv package ( kubuntu one ) from the net?
[02:08] <hades> sorry
[02:09] <Jucato> !freeciv
[02:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freeciv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:09] <SHRIKEE> i see mno sw suspend
[02:09] <polter> Hi everyone, I seem to have lost the graphical boot-up screen for Kubuntu... can you apt-get that?
[02:09] <Jucato> hm...
[02:09] <hades> ?
[02:09] <intelikey> !freeciv-client-gtk
[02:09] <ubotu> freeciv-client-gtk: Civilization turn based strategy game (GTK+ client). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8-3 (edgy), package size 381 kB, installed size 1020 kB
[02:10] <intelikey> !freeciv-server
[02:10] <ubotu> freeciv-server: Civilization turn based strategy game (server files). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8-3 (edgy), package size 416 kB, installed size 1060 kB
[02:10] <Jucato> hehe intelikey beat me to it :P
[02:10] <intelikey> Jucato less typing  :)
[02:10] <josh_> hows it going all
[02:10] <intelikey> for a search i hit  q <string>
[02:10] <Jucato> intelikey: I had to "find freeciv" :P
[02:10] <hades> jucato: it doesent mean anything to me i have the dapper drake i dont want to download the whole new ubuntu
[02:11] <j2daosh> anyone ever had to reconfigure their soundcard?
[02:11] <hades> jucato: from where i can download just the freeciv package?
[02:11] <Jucato> hades from the repository, using Adept or apt-get
[02:11] <intelikey> hades did you not see the package names ^^^
[02:12] <Jucato> intelikey: feed him the ones for Dapper :P
[02:12] <SHRIKEE> so uhm, Jucato, there is no swsuspend. why is my swap not active?
[02:12] <intelikey> there is not freeciv package there are freeciv-client-gtk freeciv-client-xaw3d freeciv-data freeciv-server
[02:12] <hades> jucato: i can see the package names but i cant download them couse propably i have the 6.06 version
[02:13] <Jucato> !freeciv-client-gtk dapper | hades
[02:13] <ubotu> freeciv-client-gtk: Civilization turn based strategy game (GTK+ client). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8-1 (dapper), package size 367 kB, installed size 992 kB
[02:13] <j2daosh> anyone ever had to reconfigure their soundcard?
[02:13] <intelikey> and that list is dapper.
[02:14] <hades> shit, apt-get cant find the package
[02:14] <SHRIKEE> then use apedt
[02:14] <SHRIKEE> just type freeciv
[02:14] <hades> i did
[02:14] <SHRIKEE> and it looks it up for you
[02:14] <Jucato> hades: you need to enable "universe"
[02:14] <SHRIKEE> also add the right repositories
[02:14] <Jucato> !repositories | hades
[02:14] <ubotu> hades: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:14] <intelikey> j2daosh soundcard is not a package. kinda hard to reconfigure hardware....
[02:14] <hades> jucato: how?
[02:15] <Jucato> ^^^^^^
[02:15] <hades> ok
[02:15] <intelikey> j2daosh you mean reconfigure alsa ?
[02:15] <intelikey> !sound
[02:15] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:15] <j2daosh> i dont know... i had onboard sound then bought a soundblaster audigy
[02:16] <intelikey> see the links above ^
[02:16] <j2daosh> i have went into the alsamixer and changed the sound card, changes the default sound card in asoundconf but still nothing
[02:16] <SHRIKEE> *swap still not working*
[02:17] <wimpies> Hi all, need some help with ifupdown ... Upgraded some packages and now I get SIOCSIFADDR : Permission denied when running ifup eth0
[02:17] <wimpies> card works under windows
[02:18] <Skatval> anyone for hlep here
[02:18] <intelikey> !wifi
[02:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:18] <Skatval> help*
[02:18] <j2daosh> Skatval: needed or helping?
[02:19] <j2daosh> s/needed/needing
[02:19] <Skatval> needed
[02:19] <j2daosh> whats the issue?
[02:19] <Skatval> when i load a page on which is applet, apllet is loading, and when applet starts my browser closes
[02:20] <SHRIKEE> !pastebin
[02:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:20] <j2daosh> i assume you have installed java correctly?
[02:20] <SHRIKEE> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31433/ this look like no fstab i ever seen :(
[02:20] <Skatval> yes
[02:20] <SHRIKEE> help me out here please
[02:20] <Jucato> !UUID | SHRIKEE
[02:20] <ubotu> SHRIKEE: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid"
[02:21] <Jucato> SHRIKEE: try checking if the UUID of your swap partition and your fstab entry match
[02:21] <SHRIKEE> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31434/
[02:21] <SHRIKEE> look again :)
[02:22] <SHRIKEE> seems to match
[02:22] <intelikey> SHRIKEE what about it ?
[02:22] <SHRIKEE> well, my swap is not working and im trying to figure it out
[02:23] <intelikey> how do you know swap is not working ?
[02:23] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hey there
[02:23] <SHRIKEE> http://squid.sothq.net/memory.jpg look at that
[02:23] <Th3_Cr0up13R> how do i change information on the hostmask on the nickname?
[02:24] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i dont like what its showing
[02:24] <intelikey> SHRIKEE it's a picture. just tell me.
[02:24] <SHRIKEE> well thats my system... it says there is no swap
[02:24] <SHRIKEE> while there is
[02:24] <SHRIKEE> last night there was
[02:24] <SHRIKEE> and now its not working
[02:25] <intelikey> sudo swapon -a
[02:25] <BluesKaj> Howdy All ! :)
[02:25] <SHRIKEE> shrikee@shrikee-laptop:~$ sudo swapon -a
[02:25] <SHRIKEE> swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/f213aa7b-7b72-4b88-a5af-5c04eb1570d2: Invalid argument
[02:26] <Skatval> j2daosh: any suggestions, i searched on google but it seems to be nothing discused about that problem
[02:27] <intelikey> hmmm adressing error....  grep "f213aa7b-7b72-4b88-a5af-5c04eb1570d2" /etc/blk*
[02:27] <intelikey> and yes i know that's just another way to check what jucato said check.
[02:27] <j2daosh> ok im back
[02:28] <j2daosh> ok, so your problem is that you java java installed correctly, the applet loads but once its done it closes the browser
[02:28] <Skatval> yes
[02:28] <SHRIKEE> hmm what should that do, because it just shows me a new prompt
[02:29] <SHRIKEE> hm nm typo
[02:29] <intelikey> SHRIKEE ummm hmmm  ok undo the change in fstab and see what swapon does.
[02:29] <SHRIKEE> what change?
[02:30] <intelikey> # /dev/sda5 -- converted during upgrade to edgy to \n UUID=f213aa7b-7b72-4b88-a5af-5c04eb1570d2 so unconvert it.
[02:30] <SHRIKEE> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31437/
[02:30] <SHRIKEE> last bit
[02:32] <SHRIKEE> intelikey: does that tell you anything? the pastebin?