[12:14] <zander_> i think i should go its late here
[12:14] <zander_> so bb
[12:14] <zander_> see ya
[12:14] <dr_willis> none of the extra themes seem to work with kbfx.. same issue i saw a few months ago
[12:16] <Kprofthreat> Eh
[12:16] <Kprofthreat> Yeah, this is pretty poor.
[12:17] <Kprofthreat> Even w/ strigi
[12:17] <Kprofthreat> But wait, strigi is poor compared to Kerry anyway
[12:17] <spitwise> after my feisty upgrade my trash icon vanished
[12:17] <prxq> hi. I managed to edit my xorg.conf until I got the right resolution (1280x1024). But now under KDE (feisty) the resolution reverts to 1024x780, and the point'n'click interface refuses to change to the higher resolution. What can I do?
[12:18] <spitwise> nevermind
[12:18] <dr_willis> !info strigi
[12:18] <ubotu> Package strigi does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[12:18] <dr_willis> prxq,  each user can set their own res also. , but that may need a xorg.conf tweak. and that may not be your issue.
[12:18] <prxq> i'm using an nvidia card...
[12:18] <dr_willis> You upgraded to feidty and now the res is wrong?
[12:18] <dr_willis> feisty
[12:18] <dr_willis> :)
[12:20] <prxq> dr_willis: nope. I bought a "new" card (old model), and got it to work (today) in the right res in X and kdm. the old card got that resolution using the vesa driver.
[12:20] <prxq> all the time under feisty.
[12:21] <prxq> The easiest would be for kde to use the same resolution as the display manager.
[12:22] <dr_willis> prxq,  well eqch user can set theior own.. which might be your case
[12:22] <dr_willis> I always try to set kdm to use a lower res. so the fonts/words are bigger for my wife. :)
[12:23] <heiko_> hi @
[12:23] <prxq> dr_willis: I can set the resolution in kcontrol, or using the system settings menu point in the kde menue. Thing is, it doesn't work. It stays with the old res.
[12:24] <ninHer> ..or just type a simple crtl + to make it bigger
[12:24] <BluesKaj> prxq, have you setup the monitor drivers , sometimes ppl forget about their monitors ,,plugnplay vesa is ok but you'll have more res options if you install the right monitor driver
[12:25] <BluesKaj> not just your graphics card
[12:26] <prxq> BluesKaj: you mean, right res @ right freq? How is that with flat panels? Do i still need the freq?
[12:26] <adaptr> yes
[12:26] <adaptr> the specs should be in the manual
[12:27] <afmpaz> hola
[12:27] <eboxnet> hello ppl
[12:27] <afmpaz> alguien habla espanol
[12:27] <prxq> ok i'll reset X. bbiab
[12:28] <afmpaz> i new on linux and installing a get a problem
[12:28] <dr_willis> ask way.. You may wan to try the
[12:28] <dr_willis> !es
[12:28] <ubotu> Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[12:28] <dr_willis> channels also.
[12:30] <Squirrely_Wrath> Got a small issue.  Every time I start Kubuntu, Kate opens up with some beryl manager document up.  I try to tell the I change the autostart string in the beryl manager document to False and it says I do not have the permission to save settings.  How do I fix that?
[12:31] <afmpaz> ok, but before of get out of here, can you help me with this warning:
[12:31] <afmpaz> Warning: File system doesn't have expected sizes for Windows to like it.
[12:31] <afmpaz> Cluster size is 2k (1k expected); number of clusters is 24026 (47959 expected);
[12:31] <afmpaz> size of FATs is 94 sectors (188 expected).
[12:31] <dr_willis> where is that comming from afmpaz ?
[12:32] <Squirrely_Wrath> I don't necessarily need to change the document info, I would just like Kate to not automatically start when I open Kubuntu
[12:32] <afmpaz> from installling ubuntu after make a patition
[12:32] <afmpaz> ubuntu 7.04
[12:32] <dr_willis> sounds like the installer is saying your windows partitions are a little weird.
[12:32] <afmpaz> on a dell presicion 470
[12:33] <dr_willis> its not talking about the dell recovery partition is it?
[12:33] <prxq> hi. I did set up a monitor with the freq. & res. from the manual. It works in kdm, but not in kde. The resolution slider only offers me one frequency (52 Hz), and simply does not work.
[12:33] <afmpaz> no
[12:35] <afmpaz> i cant get it my english is so but, what do you mean with weird?
[12:35] <dr_willis> weird/odd/strange/nonstandard
[12:36] <dr_willis> it seems to be saying that your existing windows partitions are unusual.
[12:36] <klobster> is it possible to switch<PHONE_NUMBER>) keys to always be shifted? (!@#$%^&*)?
[12:36] <dr_willis> klobster,  cant say that ive seen that done :)
[12:36] <dr_willis> or why one would want to.
[12:36] <dr_willis> Shiftlock like on the old keyboards? :)
[12:36] <Squirrely_Wrath> Um...is there any way to make Kate open with gksu by default since it insists on opening at startup anyway?
[12:36] <afmpaz> ok thx
[12:37] <klobster> I already have a number pad, and I get tired of shifting when i code.
[12:37] <dr_willis> Squirrely_Wrath,  thats reaching really hard for a fix. :)
[12:37] <dr_willis> !beryl
[12:37] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[12:37] <klobster> Squirrely_Wrath: edit the shortcut and prepend gksu to it (not recommended)
[12:37] <dr_willis> better to just close it and try the kde's save session tool perhaps?
[12:38] <Squirrely_Wrath> hmmmmm.....okay.  May try that, I'm new to KDE so I don't get everything yet.
[12:38] <klobster> save session is a nogo, I'm afraid (tried it).  just make a shortcut that you keep on the desktop,
[12:39] <klobster> BTW kdesu, not gksu...
[12:40] <Squirrely_Wrath> Was the kdesu for me?  Just wondering cuz gksu has worked for everything else for me.
[12:40] <pagan0ne> anyone know a way to echo some text from a ssh shell, to a xsession running on the remote machine?
[12:42] <Kprofthreat> Why can I only edit the main panel for kicker...
[12:43] <fyrmedic> I set my /etc/network/interfaces up to be a static ip and I can ping my router, I can even ssh to that machine. I can't however ping anything outside my network or go to any url's. Any ideas?
[12:46] <drif> fyrmedic: gateway not set?
[12:47] <Kprofthreat> Why can I only edit the main panel for kicker...
[12:48] <BluesKaj> Kprofthreat, pls explain
[12:48] <Kprofthreat> I added another panel
[12:48] <Kprofthreat> And when I clicked to configure it
[12:48] <Kprofthreat> I only get my default one
[12:49] <Kprofthreat> Like for example, I'm trying to stack two panels
[12:49] <Kprofthreat> But the main one is hidden by the new one, so when I try to configure the second to shrink it, I only can edit the main one.
[12:49] <BluesKaj> perhaps one is locked
[12:49] <Kprofthreat> They're both unlocked
[12:53] <BluesKaj> window behaviour in sys settings .. ?
[12:53] <Kprofthreat> One second
[12:53] <Kprofthreat> Ok. Now then..what about window settings?
[01:04] <sucapulli> ciao
[01:04] <originof[] > lol
[01:04] <sucapulli> ciao
[01:04] <originof[] > ciao
[01:04] <originof[] > asD
[01:04] <sucapulli> tempo previsto XD?
[01:04] <originof[] > asd
[01:04] <sucapulli> 30 secondi XD?
[01:04] <originof[] > 1 minuto
[01:04] <sucapulli> naaaa  troppo XD
[01:04] <originof[] ><PHONE_NUMBER> CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!
[01:05] <BluesKaj> !it | originof[]
[01:05] <ubotu> originof[] : Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese.  Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal or PriceChild!
[01:05] <originof[] ><PHONE_NUMBER> CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!
[01:05] <sucapulli> quanto prendi?
[01:05] <originof[] ><PHONE_NUMBER> CALL ME, I LICK R ASS !!!!
[01:05] <nixternal> what a jerk
[01:05] <AMAURI> salve :D
[01:05] <Squirrely_Wrath> Can anyone tell me how to take stuff out of startup?
[01:05] <Squirrely_Wrath> because Kate AND Xchat open on startup
[01:05] <sucapulli> english:suuuuuuuucaaaa
[01:06] <AMAURI> Hi HO UN MINCHIONE IMPRESSIONANTEEE!!!
[01:07] <BluesKaj> hmmm, couple of 13 yr olds on mommy's pc
[01:07] <nixternal> yup
[01:08] <pagan0ne> BluesKaj: if they were 13 that would give them a excuse, there is no escuse for behavior like that
[01:08] <pagan0ne> i prefer to think of them as the 32 year old virgin loser living in mommys basement :)
[01:08] <frojnd> bwuhaha lol
[01:08] <BluesKaj> not at 13 in real yrs , his mental age
[01:09] <frojnd> rofl
[01:09] <TeraDyne> pagan0ne: You're probably right, too.
[01:09] <pagan0ne> well yes, that may be true
[01:10] <Kprofthreat> I still remember that one time  that noob copied the ubotu help thingy and pasted it
[01:10] <Kprofthreat> He didn't know any better but the ops still banned him
[01:11] <pagan0ne> heh, i was a n00b once too, i can sympathise, now days i ask channel permission before i copy/paste ANYTHING
[01:11] <Kprofthreat> N00bz0rs!
[01:11] <pagan0ne> lol
[01:11] <Kprofthreat> ..Ahem =]
[01:11] <vzduch> rofl
[01:12] <Kprofthreat> I even ask permission if I can be overly sarcastic or not
[01:12] <Kprofthreat> Example
[01:12] <Kprofthreat> noob: I can't configure amarok. It keeps crashing.
[01:12] <pagan0ne> Kprofthreat: i havent been kicked for being overly scarastic... yet
[01:12] <Kprofthreat> TaJ: Did you try loading SQLite?
[01:13] <Kprofthreat> Me: *Claps 3 times evenly spaced* Well done...
[01:13] <nixternal> pagan0ne: I could grant your wish :)
[01:13] <pagan0ne> lol no thanks nixternal
[01:13] <nixternal> hehe
[01:13] <pagan0ne> anyway im gonna stop going offtopic cuz i just might get kicked for that...
[01:14] <Kprofthreat> Hmm...kick the anti-Zionist
[01:14] <pagan0ne> lol
[01:15] <Kprofthreat> Kick the physically impossible spacial anomaly
[01:15] <pagan0ne> huh?
[01:15] <Kprofthreat> Kick the ironic monetary moniker..oh he left
[01:15] <Kprofthreat> -.-
[01:16] <pagan0ne> kick the one trying to start a small insurection with words....
[01:16] <Kprofthreat> Ok!
[01:16] <pagan0ne> anyway anyone know a way to echo some text from a ssh shell, to a xsession running on the remote machine running kubuntu?
[01:17] <Kprofthreat> Woah woah woah, slow down man. I don't speak greek.
[01:17] <pagan0ne> Kprofthreat: you mean geek?
[01:17] <Kprofthreat> No, I think I meant latin.
[01:17] <Kprofthreat> Sudo -s?
[01:18] <pagan0ne> well then you shouldnt have a problem reading that, its in the geek dialect of the english language
[01:18] <Kprofthreat> Sudo -s
[01:18] <Kprofthreat> Or somethingerather
[01:19] <pagan0ne> Kprofthreat: was the sudo -s directed @ me?
[01:19] <Kprofthreat> Well, pagan0ne, I think I know what you're trying to do but don't know if I ever did it or not, and if I did, I forgot the steps, so yes that might have not been not directed at someone that's possibly you.
[01:20] <pagan0ne> lol thats a improbibaly indirect way at possibly answering, or not answering my question...
[01:21] <Kprofthreat> pagan0ne: Not improbable. Most illogical, maybe.
[01:21] <runpain> Help me some one i cant install ichthux the installer crashes all the time here is the pastbin : http://pastebin.ca/609559
[01:22] <Kprofthreat> !info ichthux
[01:22] <ubotu> Package ichthux does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[01:22] <Kprofthreat> If the bot says it does not exist, it does not exist. NEXT!
[01:22] <pagan0ne> rofl
[01:23] <runpain> ichthux christian linux kde
[01:24] <Kprofthreat> !ichthux
[01:24] <ubotu> Ichthux (Linux for Christians) is an unofficial Kubuntu derivative. See http://www.ichthux.com/
[01:24] <pagan0ne> Kprofthreat: isnt that ironic....
[01:24] <Kprofthreat> Hmm
[01:24] <Kprofthreat> pagan0ne: What is?
[01:25] <pagan0ne> Kprofthreat: you pointing out my anti-zionest ways, them the first Valid questio past that involding a christian based derivitave of our favorite OS
[01:25] <Kprofthreat> You're anti-zionist? Shame!
[01:25] <pagan0ne> and now the simple fact that i cant type
[01:25] <Kprofthreat> Oh wait... pagan0ne..I get it!
[01:25] <dekhelpme> Heylo ..
[01:25] <Kprofthreat> ...o.O
[01:25] <dekhelpme> Everything is gold,.. and I mean everything.. just beautiful
[01:25] <dekhelpme> cept ..
[01:25] <pagan0ne> dek how can we help you?
[01:25] <vzduch> Kprofthreat: the bot seems not to know a number of packages.. e.g. realplay; apt-cache show says it's in main, and the bot says it doesn't exist
[01:26] <dekhelpme> Styles/Themes  -   Dekorator won't install from repo for me
[01:26] <Kprofthreat> pagan0ne: See why I need permission to be sarcastic now?
[01:26] <dekhelpme> well it installs, but it doesn't work, the window manager just dissapears
[01:26] <dekhelpme> am I missing QT or something _like_ that
[01:26] <runpain> Can i get help here
[01:26] <dekhelpme> runpain:  what's up
[01:26] <Kprofthreat> I'm looking into it, runpain.
[01:27] <dekhelpme> nm ;]
[01:27] <runpain> k
[01:27] <runpain>  thanks kp
[01:27] <dekhelpme> Package: kwin-style-dekorator  <<-- Does not work o_0
[01:27] <Kprofthreat> So, if I understand this right
[01:27] <Kprofthreat> You are trying to add ichthux to your existing kubuntu?
[01:28] <vzduch> runpain: why not install from the repos?
[01:28] <runpain> no want to install on laptop
[01:28] <runpain> because the server is down for repos
[01:28] <vzduch> huh?
[01:28] <vzduch> which server?
[01:28] <Kprofthreat> Check out his runtime error, vz: http://pastebin.ca/609559
[01:29] <runpain> it gets all the way to download from mirror and the installer crashes
[01:29] <dekhelpme> Is there anyone here with compiling abilities able to pack deKorator into a .deb for me?
[01:29] <Kprofthreat> !deKorator
[01:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dekorator - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:30] <Kprofthreat> dekhelpme: Just try sudo apt-get install dekorator
[01:31] <dekhelpme> Kprofthreat: Yah, tried that. the package is kwin-style-dekorator
[01:31] <dekhelpme> Kprofthreat: and it seems to be broken
[01:31] <runpain> i install kubuntu and tried the debs that they say installs the ichthux desk top and do the wget and the server does not work
[01:31] <vzduch> my aptitude says ichthux-desktop is broken
[01:32] <Kprofthreat> Hmm
[01:32] <Kprofthreat> Let me check this
[01:32] <runpain> err the only christian one that has kde desktop and is down that sucks
[01:32] <pagan0ne> Kprofthreat: can i pm you?
[01:32] <vzduch> tried to simulate the install and it gave me a dep conflict
[01:33] <runpain> O_o
[01:33] <Kprofthreat> Hmm, can you find it with adept?
[01:33] <runpain> o_O
[01:33] <runpain> ;{
[01:34] <runpain> and thier channels noone answers
[01:34] <vzduch> http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/1630 <-- my system is in German, so you might have trouble understanding the messages, but I think you'll get the point
[01:35] <Kprofthreat> dekhelpme: Did you try getting this from adept?
[01:35] <dekhelpme> Kprofthreat:  No, i caught that going by just now tho.. gonna try, thx :)
[01:35] <vzduch> runpain: email the maintainers that their package is broken
[01:36] <dekhelpme> although i'm sure apt-get would have gotten the repos, i'll see if there's anything i've missed
[01:36] <mike__> Greets, everyone...
[01:36] <Kprofthreat> dekhelpme: You may have dependency issues.
[01:36] <Kprofthreat> mike__, do you need help?
[01:36] <runpain> i was looking at the paste
[01:37] <vzduch> runpain: you can include that
[01:37] <dekhelpme> Kprofthreat: that's what it feels like .. but this is fresh install, i haven't done anything
[01:37] <dekhelpme> dekhelpme: cept update my repo's and do a full system upgrade
[01:37] <runpain> thanks vz
[01:37] <vzduch> runpain: I can prolong the time that the post stays in the pastebin
[01:37] <drif> am I able to execute some software under X remotely via console?
[01:37] <mike__> Kprofthreat: Yeah, thanks... My swap space has disappeared. ;-\ Already tried re-assigning the swap partition to be swap in the Disk & Filesystems module, to no avail. Any ideas?
[01:37] <runpain> k ill get it now
[01:37] <Kprofthreat> dekhelpme: That can cause a dependency issue.
[01:37] <vzduch> ah, it's set to 1 month
[01:38] <Kprofthreat> dekhelpme: Er...fresh installs anyway, you need to install things from Adept and they should get the dependencies for you.
[01:38] <Kprofthreat> mike__: It's not mounted?
[01:38] <runpain> got friend
[01:38] <dekhelpme> Kprofthreat:  adept is NOT finding dekorator
[01:39] <runpain> got it*
[01:39] <Kprofthreat> It found it for me...
[01:39] <danya_> what is KDE headers ?
[01:39] <mike__> Kprofthreat: How can I tell? I thought swap partitions weren't assigned a mount point?
[01:39] <dekhelpme> Kprofthreat:  I have updated my sources.list manually, am I missing something here
[01:39] <mike__> dekhelpme: kwin-style-dekorator
[01:39] <runpain> ill send it to thier site for bugs
[01:39] <mike__> dekhelpme: Nothing?
[01:39] <dekhelpme> mike__:  Yah, that installs, but when I load it my window manager dissapears till i load a diff one
[01:40] <dekhelpme> kwin-style-dekorator is availible in apt-get but in adept,  dekorator is no where to be found
[01:40] <mike__> dekhelpme: You have to download and install a dekorator theme (check kde-look.org). It doesn't come with any by default
[01:40] <dekhelpme> yah
[01:40] <dekhelpme> i did that
[01:40] <dekhelpme> downloaded 5 to test
[01:40] <dekhelpme> it's like i'm missing QT or whatever dek uses
[01:40] <mike__> dekhelpme: Where'd you extract them to?
[01:40] <dekhelpme> mike__:  I used dekorator to import?
[01:41] <vzduch> runpain: in case you need me to get back on anything of that, I am usually here in the evenings between 2000 and 0100 CEST
[01:41] <Kprofthreat> mike__: What partition software/ sys monitor did you use to check your swap?
[01:41] <dekhelpme> but this seems to be the issue.. how come i can find the package with apt-get but not adept ?
[01:41] <runpain> thks vz
[01:41] <runpain> brb
[01:41] <dekhelpme> Adept has unsupported / proprietary enabled
[01:41] <Kprofthreat> Did you run sudo-apt get update and sudo-apt get upgrade?
[01:41] <dekhelpme> *shrug
[01:41] <mike__> dekhelpme: That didn't work for me when I tried it. Had to manually extract them. I think it was to ~/.kde/share/apps/dekorator/themes, but I could be wrong - been a while since I used dekorator
[01:41] <dekhelpme> sudo apt-get update
[01:41] <runpain> God Bless You all that have been a help
[01:42] <Kprofthreat> Try upgrade
[01:42] <vzduch> dekhelpme: which package?
[01:42] <dekhelpme> wait
[01:42] <dekhelpme> yes
[01:42] <dekhelpme> vzduch: kwin-style-dekorator
[01:42] <danya_> kprofthreat : what's KDE deader ?
[01:42] <Kprofthreat> He doesn't see it in Adept
[01:42] <dekhelpme> vzduch: Adept finds it as just the dekorator package for Kprofthreat
[01:42] <mike__> Kprofthreat: KInfoCenter's memory module and top both say there's 0 swap space
[01:42] <danya_> header*
[01:42] <dekhelpme> but for me Adept doesn't see it at all.. yet apt-get will let me install kwin-style-dekorator <<-- which breaks
[01:43] <vzduch> dielucht@zalle:~$ aptitude search dekorator
[01:43] <vzduch> p   kwin-style-dekorator                                                              - windows decoration for kde using user-supplied PNG files
[01:43] <Kprofthreat> danya_: Headers are files that help you compile source code.
[01:43] <vzduch> dekhelpme: there you have the name
[01:43] <dekhelpme> vzduch:  yah,  that installs fine, but when i enable it under styles
[01:43] <dekhelpme> it doesn't work
[01:43] <Kprofthreat> danya_: What are you trying to do?
[01:43] <danya_> kprofthreat : shall I install everything related to KDE in package manager ?
[01:43] <dekhelpme> vzduch:  you should read what we've been talking about it, i've mentioned it 4 times now that i've installed it manually just fine
[01:44] <dekhelpme> with apt-get
[01:44] <mike__> Kprofthreat: KControl's Disk & Filesystems module is showing the swap partition, but under the Mount Point column for it (which I thought should be blank for swap partitions?), it just says "<mount point>"
[01:44] <dekhelpme> why can i not see it with Adept?
[01:44] <mike__> Err, one sec...
[01:44] <danya_> Kprofthreat : Im trying to install a theme .. and whenever I configure the output is that
[01:44] <danya_> are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[01:44] <danya_> So, check this please and use another prefix!
[01:44] <Kprofthreat> danya_: I have just the solution for you. One second.
[01:45] <vzduch> dekhelpme: why do you care if you did get it installed? :)
[01:45] <dekhelpme> lil build essentials and some linux-headers-'uname -a' etc etc
[01:45] <dekhelpme> vzduch:  CAUSE IT INSTALLS BUT WHEN I CHOOSE IT, MY WINDOW MANAGER DISSAPEARS, EVEN USING 10 DIFFERENT THEMES
[01:45] <Kprofthreat> danza_: Open up Adept and search for kdebase-dev
[01:45] <dekhelpme> sorry capz
[01:46] <Kprofthreat> danza_: Also make sure you have the latest lib dev packages.
[01:46] <mike__> Kprofthreat: Ok, I think I'm good. Stupid mistake on my part. I'm still curious as to why that would've happened though - it's like the swap partition just took a notion to try and get the day off or something. :-\ Any ideas?
[01:46] <danya_> kprofthreat : whats Adept ? lol .. I've only been using this for a couple of days
[01:46] <dekhelpme> How come I can't find a program via adept
[01:46] <dekhelpme> wtf is with that
[01:47] <mike__> dekhelpme: Use Synaptic. It's better ;-) (Although I make no claim that will solve the particular problem you're having)
[01:47] <Kprofthreat> mike_: I'm afraid not. I've never had that happen before.
[01:47] <TeraDyne> danya_: you need the KDE headers?
[01:47] <Kprofthreat> danya_: No problem. =]
[01:47] <Kprofthreat> danya_: Type alt + f2
[01:47] <danya_> TeraDyne : yes
[01:47] <dekhelpme> okay i found it in adept, it's there, installed.. but  my window manager still dissapears when i  enable it
[01:48] <Kprofthreat> Or nvm
[01:48] <Kprofthreat> Just go and click on your menu
[01:48] <danya_> kprofthreat : and ?
[01:48] <Kprofthreat> Go to system>>>adept
[01:48] <TeraDyne> danya_: "sudo aptitude install kdelibs4-dev" for the KDE 3.x development headers
[01:48] <Kprofthreat> Adept/Synaptic = your friend. =]
[01:48] <Kprofthreat> That works too.
[01:48] <dekhelpme> i like command line and have no problem with apt-get
[01:48] <Kprofthreat> !aterm
[01:49] <Kprofthreat> !info aterm
[01:49] <Kprofthreat> !info eterm
[01:49] <TeraDyne> botlag
[01:49] <Kprofthreat> ...Blargh
[01:49] <danya_> kprofthreat : I know how to use synaptic .. I'm just confused because there are too many KDE packages
[01:49] <dekhelpme> last time I built dekorator from scratch and it worked fine, but the package is broken in apt-get .. Has anyone here even tried to use it?
[01:49] <mike__> Kprofthreat: On a completely unrelated note, I'm having another strange problem with suspend/resume on a laptop - Sometimes when I resume, the display doesn't turn on, so I have to hit the suspend key and then power it back up and everything's fine.
[01:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aterm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:49] <ubotu> aterm: Afterstep XVT - a VT102 emulator for the X window system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0-4 (feisty), package size 81 kB, installed size 228 kB
[01:49] <ubotu> eterm: Enlightened Terminal Emulator. In component universe, is optional. Version <IP_ADDRESS>debian1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 415 kB, installed size 1100 kB
[01:49] <dekhelpme> danya_: sec
[01:49] <arthas__> what is the channel for kubuntu in Spanish?
[01:49] <arthas__> pls
[01:49] <vzduch> !es | arthas__
[01:49] <ubotu> arthas__: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[01:49] <Kprofthreat> If there is one, I'd guess kubuntu-es
[01:49] <kobiwan> I had gnome and beryl - I went and got KDE and now beryl wont work Please if some one can help me
[01:49] <Kprofthreat> Oh look at that
[01:50] <arthas__> tanks
[01:50] <arthas__> gracias
[01:50] <aznpridechinese> can someone help me do something? i'm using kubuntu feisty and i want to switch to ubuntu instead, how do i get my dvd writer to write me an ubuntu cd using an ISO file?
[01:50] <Kprofthreat> De nada
[01:50] <vzduch> de nada :)
[01:50] <mike__> kobiwan: Beryl won't even work under Gnome anymore?
[01:50] <dekhelpme> danya_: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[01:50] <vzduch> !k3b | aznpridechinese
[01:50] <ubotu> aznpridechinese: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[01:50] <Kprofthreat> Did you make a separate session for KDE?
[01:50] <dekhelpme> danya_:  type that, then re-run what you were doing and you will be a-okay
[01:50] <kobiwan> what do you mean why not It was working 3 days ago??
[01:51] <mike__> kobiwan: I was asking. ;-)
[01:51] <kobiwan> ohhhhh oki sorry
[01:51] <dekhelpme> and i guess i'm going to have to install compiling capabilities on my machine because dekorator isn't working for me from the packages
[01:51] <mike__> Heh, np
[01:51] <dekhelpme> can anyone try to install/run dekorator
[01:51] <dekhelpme> and verify it's just me
[01:52] <dekhelpme> or if it's actually a bug
[01:52] <Kprofthreat> Oddly enough, it didn't wanna install through sudo apt-get for me.
[01:52] <Kprofthreat> =/
[01:52] <mike__> dekhelpme: Did you try what I said with manually installing the themes (i.e., unzipping them to ~/.kde/share/apps/dekorator/themes)?
[01:52] <kobiwan> I don't know how do I back to gnome to check
[01:52] <dekhelpme> mike__:  i missed that but will try now, thankyou
[01:52] <Kprofthreat> Are you in KDE right now?
[01:52] <dekhelpme> yep
[01:52] <mike__> dekhelpme: Np
[01:52] <dekhelpme> sec trying mikes method
[01:52] <danya_> dekhelpme : can u rewrite the command again plz :)
[01:53] <Kprofthreat> kobiwan: You're going to need to log out and select the gnome session before you log in again
[01:53] <mike__> kobiwan: Select Gnome as the session at the login screen
[01:53] <mike__> kobiwan: You should be using Compiz-Fusion instead of Beryl anyway though - Beryl's dead, as in, no more updates
[01:53] <Flegma> pls how can i remove package without removing dependencies????
[01:53] <Kprofthreat> mike__: Agreed.
[01:54] <Kprofthreat> kobiwan: I'd suggest uninstalling Beryl completely...
[01:54] <Kprofthreat> kobiwan: sudo apt-get remove beryl-manager beryl-settings emerald-settings
[01:54] <Kprofthreat> What GPU?
[01:54] <aznpridechinese> so do i want to use burn dvd iso image for what i watn to do?
[01:55] <Kprofthreat> aznpridechinese: Are you trying to burn a live dvd?
[01:55] <mike__> Actually, Compiz-Fusion can still use Emerald, so you may want to keep Beryl installed (at least until they sort out the dependency issue with Emerald/Beryl)
[01:55] <aznpridechinese> no, just an installation dvd from an iso file
[01:55] <dekhelpme> mike__:  I tried, but it wouldn't let me overwrite the files that are already there, imported fine.. so i forced it, same issue
[01:55] <dekhelpme> Kprofthreat:  so when you sudo apt-get install kwin-style-dekorator
[01:55] <kobiwan> oki is Compiz better
[01:55] <danya_> dekhelpme : plz can u rewrite the command again :) ?
[01:55] <aznpridechinese> and i can't mess up cuz i only have 1 more dvd left
[01:55] <dekhelpme> Kprofthreat:  and a theme, did it work
[01:55] <mike__> dekhelpme: Did you install it as root or something?
[01:55] <Kprofthreat> mike__: Meh. Don't HAVE to do that.
[01:55] <dekhelpme> danya_: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[01:56] <mike__> Kprofthreat: ?
[01:56] <veaux> Hi, searching here for some help configuring Beryl
[01:56] <Kprofthreat> dekhelpme: I didn't try it.
[01:56] <dekhelpme> mike__:  uhm, dekorator yes, the theme no
[01:56] <Kprofthreat> dekhelpme: Let's see your sources.list
[01:57] <mike__> dekhelpme: Weird. Can't imagine why it wouldn't let you overwrite. Are the themes that you installed even showing up when you go to choose them?
[01:57] <Kprofthreat> veaux: We're a bit backlogged right now. If you don't get an immediate reply, try #ubuntu-effects or #beryl
[01:57] <veaux> thx
[01:58] <danya_> dekhelpme : I'm still getting the same error .. no kDE headers :(
[01:58] <mike__> veaux: You'd be better off going with Compiz-Fusion over Beryl, since Beryl's pretty much abandonware at this point
[01:58] <qkhn> Selamlar..
[01:58] <qkhn> iyi geceler
[01:58] <runpain> ichthux what is thier problem thought they would want to be sure they could have a good product
[01:58] <dekhelpme> danya_:  SEC
[01:58] <Kprofthreat> mike__: While I find Compiz Fusion smoother than Beryl, it is still alpha-ware and therefore may not be for everyone's boxes.
[01:58] <qkhn> Trk yokmu?
[01:59] <Flegma> pls how can i remove package without removing dependencies????
[01:59] <veaux> mike_: will search for this one. I hope my issue is resolved in this one
[01:59] <dekhelpme> danya_: sudo apt-get install kdebase-dev
[01:59] <qkhn> or can you speak turkish?
[01:59] <dekhelpme> danya_:  that should get you the kde headers
[01:59] <Kprofthreat> ..Do we have a turkish channel?
[01:59] <dekhelpme> pastebin is taking forever
[01:59] <qkhn> turkish channel?
[01:59] <kobiwan> is it difficult to install "Compiz-Fusion" ?
[01:59] <qkhn> are there?
[01:59] <mike__> Kprofthreat: Depends on what plugins you enable that determines its stability. Most people, from what I've seen, say C-F is more stable than Beryl. I'm inclined to agree with them
[01:59] <mike__> kobiwan: Have you ever added a repository?
[02:00] <kobiwan> I think so
[02:00] <Kprofthreat> mike__: It's crashed kwin a few times, but other than that, it's pretty smooth for alphaware.
[02:00] <mike__> kobiwan: If so, it's just as easy as installing Beryl.
[02:00] <Kprofthreat> mike__: If he installed Beryl, he edited his sources.list.
[02:00] <Kprofthreat> Brb all.
[02:00] <dekhelpme> mike__:  Yah the themese are there.. i installed dekorator as root, you have to.. then i went into kcontrol via my own user account and imported .. i've also done the manual install
[02:00] <mike__> Kprofthreat: Not manually, necessarily ;-)
[02:00] <kobiwan> yes I did edit my source list
[02:01] <mike__> dekhelpme: One sec...
[02:01] <dekhelpme> Kprofthreat: http://pastebin.com/944615
[02:01] <mike__> kobiwan: Check here: http://download.tuxfamily.org/3v1deb/index.html - You want the "eye candy" repository
[02:02] <mike__> dekhelpme: Did you set all the paths?
[02:03] <runpain> gona download older version
[02:03] <dekhelpme> mike__:  Frames and Buttons?  no...
[02:03] <dekhelpme> mike__:  Didn't do that last time either
[02:04] <mike__> dekhelpme: I think that's what you're missing. I had to do that to get it to work, if I remember correctly
[02:04] <dekhelpme> mike__:  reeeallly.. okay.. *gives it a shot
[02:04] <Seek_Therapy> whats the default port for ROR
[02:04] <dekhelpme> thx
[02:04] <dr_willis> ROR ?
[02:05] <Kprofthreat> kobiwan: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481314
[02:05] <Seek_Therapy> ruby on rails
[02:05] <mike__> dekhelpme: It seems weird that you would have to do that, as it kind of defeats the purpose of telling it what theme to use, but whatever. I didn't code it. :-P
[02:06] <dekhelpme> mike__:  You are my hero
[02:06] <dekhelpme> mike__:  Absolutely
[02:06] <dekhelpme> mike__:  I owe you buddy
[02:06] <dekhelpme> lol
[02:06] <dekhelpme> hooray i didn't have to compile anything from source this install!
[02:06] <dekhelpme> Mike
[02:06] <dekhelpme> .... I am so happy
[02:06] <dekhelpme> you dun know
[02:06] <dekhelpme> thanks buddy
[02:07] <dekhelpme> thanks Kprofthreat alot for tryin too
[02:07] <dekhelpme> ohhh
[02:07] <Kprofthreat> Pfft, for trying.    Peace out, everyone.
[02:14] <sven-tek> error: this authentication method is not supported" and then o click ok - and then the password dialog appears. and no matter what i do i can not go to another kmail window
[02:14] <sven-tek> even killing it and restarting kmail did not help
[02:17] <BluesKaj> Squirrely_Wrath, just a thought are you closing xchat before shutting down the pc?
[02:17] <stoned> flash stuff seems to randomly crash konqueror or firefox in kubuntu
[02:18] <stoned> total browser lockup
[02:18] <BluesKaj> Squirrely_Wrath, and another , there might be an option in xchat itself to launch itself upon login
[02:18] <stoned> what gives
[02:19] <Squirrely_Wrath> I haven't noticed an option anywhere and...um...I'll have to check on the closing thing
[02:19] <Squirrely_Wrath> sooooooooooooo brb
[02:21] <vzduch> mornin' intelikey
[02:21] <BluesKaj> stoned, install flashplugin-nonfree and if you wish  flashplayer-nonfree
[02:22] <intelikey> vzduch
[02:22] <danya_> how to install phyton libraries and headers ? through terminal not Synaptic
[02:23] <danya_> python*
[02:23] <dr_willis> danya_,  may want to read the apt-get manual. Finding the package names may be the hardest part
[02:23] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install Whatever
[02:23] <dr_willis> apt-cache search whatever
[02:23] <dr_willis> to get package names
[02:23] <gilster> what audio editing tool can i use to split a large mp3/wav file into tracks using a premade cue file?
[02:23] <dr_willis> apt-cache search python
[02:23] <dr_willis> !find python
[02:23] <ubotu> Found: bittornado, diveintopython, diveintopython-zh, libapache2-mod-python, libapache2-mod-python-doc (and 621 others)
[02:23] <dr_willis> 621 others... :)
[02:24] <dr_willis> !info diveintopython
[02:24] <ubotu> diveintopython: free Python book for experienced programmers. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4-2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 340 kB, installed size 4220 kB
[02:24] <intelikey> apt-cache search python | grep dev
[02:24] <dr_willis> Cool.. Not seen that package befor.
[02:24] <Squirrely_Wrath> Yaaaaaaaaaaaay!  The suggestion worked!  Now I have another problem. lol
[02:24] <dr_willis> !info diveintopython-zh
[02:24] <ubotu> diveintopython-zh: free Python book for experienced programmers. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 484 kB, installed size 3584 kB
[02:24] <dr_willis> wonder what -zh means...
[02:24] <dr_willis> different language?
[02:24] <intelikey> yeah
[02:24] <danya_> dr_willis : U just got me more confused :P
[02:25] <dr_willis> whats zh then? :)
[02:25] <intelikey> !zh
[02:25] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[02:25] <vzduch> dr_willis: Chinese perhaps
[02:25] <dr_willis> danya_,  time to get learning then! :)
[02:25] <danya_> dr_willis : after all it's 3:30 a.m over here :P
[02:25] <dr_willis> But Pythons are from South AMerica.. they dont live in china!
[02:25] <dr_willis> :)
[02:25] <vzduch> lol
[02:25] <TeraDyne> XD
[02:25] <Squirrely_Wrath> When I booted up, My computer said something like sda/hda1 has been mounted 22 times without being checked.  Check forced.   Anything I can do about that?
[02:26] <intelikey> dr_willis you sure they don't live in southern asia too ?
[02:26] <dr_willis> I thought that was some other snake down there...
[02:26] <doudou92> Squirrely
[02:26] <Squirrely_Wrath> yes?
[02:26] <doudou92> What format is used for your disk?
[02:26] <dr_willis> I cant seem to rember any tv shows with large constictors   that were not in South America.. How about Austrila?
[02:27] <dr_willis> perhaps they took a bus. ;)
[02:27] <intelikey> maybe a boat
[02:27] <TeraDyne> No, they took a plane.
[02:27] <Squirrely_Wrath> um....not totally sure.  I am using the standard ubuntu formats.  ext3, got a small fat32 for my dualboot setup.  Also got the swap
[02:27] <intelikey> dr_willis google knos
[02:27] <intelikey> w
[02:28] <dr_willis> Actually I seem to recall Hawaii getting invaded by some small snake from Some where from Asia.
[02:28] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, wanna bet...pythons are found all around the world
[02:28] <TeraDyne> I wonder...
[02:28] <dr_willis> BluesKaj,  theres none in my backyard! :)
[02:28] <dr_willis> Actually they did find one in a local river.. like 20 ft long.. dead. (yea)
[02:28] <dr_willis> then it came out. it was a Pet someone had dumped.
[02:28] <BluesKaj> you should be glad about that
[02:28] <doudou92> I have the same "problem" with an ext3 formated disk. I think it's a security but it didn't appear to be anormal.
[02:28] <dr_willis> It was dead to begin when he dumped it.. Honest! :)
[02:29] <Squirrely_Wrath> okay.  Just wondering.  Not used to that kinda thing
[02:29] <intelikey> you can bet if i dumped one it would be dead.
[02:30] <intelikey> me and a friend killed over 300 snakes in one day.  local water shed pond
[02:30] <dr_willis> Meanie!
[02:30] <Squirrely_Wrath> Oh!  y the way, this is really little, but anyone know where I can get an icon for the kde control center?
[02:30] <dr_willis> :)
[02:30] <Squirrely_Wrath> by*
[02:31] <ciacon> hi guys - has anyone got an Idea about teamspeak on Kubuntu??
[02:31] <dr_willis> Squirrely_Wrath,  i always add the control-panel applet to my panel.
[02:31] <NickPresta> Squirrely_Wrath, kde-look.org/ has tons of icons and such for everything. check there
[02:31] <dr_willis> ciacon,  ive had it working under linux befor.. not lately however.
[02:31] <Squirrely_Wrath> dr_willis I didn't have any control panel applets.  I had to make a launcher for it manually.
[02:32] <intelikey> Squirrely_Wrath the houndreds of icons to choose from already on your system not enough ?
[02:32] <dr_willis> Squirrely_Wrath,  odd.. I always seem to have one. :)   addaplet to panel -> settings
[02:32] <Squirrely_Wrath> intelikey I know there are tons, I am just trying to keep everything polished as possible so I was trying to go with the default
[02:33] <ciacon> dr_willis: it's not necisarily a current problem
[02:33] <ciacon> I am on a channel with a mate... he is complaining, that he can hear himself echo and any sound that is off my desktop (e.g. mp3 player)...
[02:34] <intelikey> you know i actually use a default kernel on one system...  that's so unlike me to leave anything default...
[02:34] <ciacon> i should mybe note, that I am wearing headphones, and that this path of sound is to be ruled out
[02:36] <dr_willis> check your mixer perhaps.
[02:36] <dr_willis> I recall some how haveing a 'what you hear' or similer thing in various voice chat programs also.
[02:36] <dr_willis> depending on the mixer settings.
[02:36] <intelikey> high ho ?      what kind of message are you trying to convay with that  nickname?
[02:36] <ciacon> dr_willis: where would I start? I have no idea, why my sound is (from speakers) is in the mic
[02:37] <wolferine> im just setting up a new DB, what is the most commonly used 'type' for username, person's name, address, etc? length?
[02:37] <intelikey> ciacon input volume too high ?
[02:37] <|HighHo|> no message at all, its just a nickname
[02:38] <wolferine> any "strings"
[02:38] <sven-tek> kmail is crap
[02:38] <dr_willis> ciacon,  fire up alsamixer and start twiddling I guess.
[02:38] <crash_> Algum brasileiro
[02:38] <TeraDyne> sven-tek: how so?
[02:39] <vzduch> !br | crash_
[02:39] <ubotu> crash_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigado.
[02:39] <crash_> tanks
[02:39] <sven-tek> i wanted to do some testing with pgp compatibility but i didnt even get so far
[02:39] <sven-tek> i crashes from the livecd when i enter my imap account
[02:39] <sven-tek> ^it
[02:39] <crash_> ^
[02:39] <crash_> ^^
[02:40] <intelikey> sven-tek libe CD ...    which flavour ?
[02:40] <ciacon> dr_willis: it was the mixer settings ;-)... I had the record settings on for the "wave"
[02:40] <sven-tek> kubuntu 7.04 desktop of course
[02:41] <intelikey> ummm hmmm
[02:42] <intelikey> sad "the average U.S. household has 2.55 people and 2.73 TVs."
[02:42] <aznpridechinese> need help, i just tried burning an iso image to my dvd with k3b but it gave me a reformatting error and it just started burning it then at the end it said some kind of buffer error
[02:43] <BluesKaj> aznpridechinese, try to play the dvd anyway , it may still work
[02:44] <BluesKaj> i've had such errors in the pastand the burn was fine , strange but true
[02:45] <aznpridechinese> the iso was the installation for for ubuntu
[02:45] <aznpridechinese> the cd didn't boot when i restarted the computer
[02:45] <intelikey> sounds like you made a frisby
[02:45] <BluesKaj> did you run the checksum previous to the burn
[02:46] <aznpridechinese> what is that?
[02:46] <aznpridechinese> u wonna walk me through it?
[02:46] <aznpridechinese> i got 1 more dvd left
[02:47] <dr_willis> You are burning the DVD iso image?
[02:47] <dr_willis> not the cd iso image?
[02:47] <aznpridechinese> yes
[02:47] <aznpridechinese> dvd iso image
[02:47] <dr_willis> dvd iso image of what exactly anyway?
[02:47] <aznpridechinese> a ubuntu installation dvd
[02:47] <dr_willis> why are ya even bothering with the dvd image. :)
[02:48] <aznpridechinese> cuz i don't have any cds available atm
[02:48] <aznpridechinese> but will soon
[02:48] <dr_willis> heh.
[02:48] <dr_willis> these are dvd+RW's ?
[02:48] <aznpridechinese> yes
[02:48] <dr_willis> so you shouwl be able to format/erase them :)
[02:48] <aznpridechinese> that's the thing, k3b couldn't do it
[02:49] <aznpridechinese> it gave me an error
[02:49] <dr_willis> k3b will scan/calculage the checksum on the iso file also. to be sure its correct
[02:49] <dr_willis> I dont even have a DVD+RW to try to format the things.
[02:49] <BluesKaj> aznpridechinese, http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Ubuntu/2007-02/msg01827.html
[02:49] <intelikey> i don't even have a dvd player
[02:49] <dr_willis> I dont even have a computer!
[02:50] <dr_willis> :)
[02:50] <aznpridechinese> and the thing is, i've burned my kubuntu installation dvd in windows vista just fine
[02:50] <dr_willis> uoq s,ndo
[02:50] <aznpridechinese> so i know it's got to be the program
[02:50] <dr_willis> run k3b from the terminal and see if any errors show up. maby it needs some extra support apps
[02:51] <CrunchyFerrett> .
[02:51] <CrunchyFerrett> !en
[02:51] <ubotu> The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are english only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[02:51] <BluesKaj> aznpridechinese, did you check the URL I posted above ?
[02:51] <aznpridechinese> yes, i'm a linux noob so i don't really know what they said
[02:51] <dr_willis> From what i can tell in k3b - the 'dvd+rw-format' command/package needs to be installed.
[02:52] <dr_willis> k3b->settings->setup k3b ->programs
[02:52] <dr_willis> dvd+rw-format  --help
[02:53] <dr_willis> usage: dvd+rw-format  /dev/dvddevice
[02:53] <aznpridechinese> dr willis my k3b doesn't have those menus
[02:53] <BluesKaj> IC aznpridechinese , so you're in windows right now ?
[02:54] <dr_willis> what version of kubutu ya got? check them again. :)
[02:54] <aznpridechinese> no
[02:54] <aznpridechinese> i'm in kubuntu
[02:54] <dr_willis> or use the command line.
[02:54] <aznpridechinese> feisty
[02:54] <aznpridechinese> i don't know what the commands are
[02:54] <dr_willis> Im using feisty also.. check agagin.
[02:54] <dr_willis> I just pasted themn :)
[02:54] <dr_willis> usage: dvd+rw-format  /dev/dvddevice
[02:54] <dr_willis> now what dvddevice is - is the question
[02:56] <intelikey> for Q in /dev/scd* /dev/hd? ;do eject $Q && echo $Q ;done
[02:56] <aznpridechinese> the command you gave me said * BD/DVD+RW/-RAM format utility by<EMAIL_ADDRESS>version 7.0 :-( unable to open :"/dev/dvddevice"): No such file or directory
[02:57] <dr_willis> aznpridechinese,  now 'think' about what its saying...
[02:57] <dr_willis> you need to FIND out what device your DVD is.
[02:58] <dr_willis> and use that /dev/whatevertheheckitis
[02:58] <dr_willis> ls -l /dev/dvd MIGHT show a useable device.. so /dev/dvd MIGHT work
[02:58] <dr_willis> it might now
[02:58] <dr_willis> not.
[02:58] <dr_willis> ls -l /dev/dvd
[02:58] <dr_willis> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2007-07-05 01:13 /dev/dvd -> scd0
[02:58] <intelikey> for Q in /dev/scd* /dev/hd? ;do eject $Q && echo $Q ;done
[02:58] <dr_willis> is what i got here..  Do you have a /dev/dvd ?
[02:59] <aznpridechinese> yah it showed /dev/dvd -> hda
[02:59] <dr_willis> intelikey,  :) like ejecting the cd to see what machine you are sshed to. :)
[02:59] <dr_willis> out of the whole room of pcs
[02:59] <dr_willis> aznpridechinese,  so use /dev/dvd then
[02:59] <intelikey> dr_willis hey if it works.
[02:59] <dr_willis> Hmm.. why is yours hda and myne scd
[03:00] <aznpridechinese> ok it says 4.7GB DVD+RW media detected when i ran dvd+rw-format  /dev/dvddevice
[03:00] <aznpridechinese> well /dev/dvd
[03:02] <aznpridechinese>  now what?
[03:02] <dr_willis> did it do somthing to the disk?
[03:02] <dr_willis> that command should of formated the disk
[03:03] <dr_willis>  ive never used the command befor.. and cant even test it on any +RW's since i got none.   The full option list for the command is     dvd+rw-format  [-force[=full] ]   [-lead-out  |  -blank[=full] ]   [-ssa[=none  |  default | max] ]  /dev/dvd
[03:03] <dr_willis> dvd+rw-format -force=full /dev/dvd
[03:03] <dr_willis> will proberly force a total reformat of the disk.
[03:04] <aznpridechinese> i think someone is hacking my computer
[03:05] <aznpridechinese> my mouse lags like hell and my keyboard goes crazy typing things that i didn't put there
[03:05] <aznpridechinese> then my whole system locks up
[03:05] <NickPresta> aznpridechinese, aside from that, what makes you think your computer's security has been compromised?
[03:06] <dr_willis> :)
[03:06] <aznpridechinese> well i know computers don't just do stuff like that
[03:06] <dr_willis> sounds like a normal windows machine to me.
[03:06] <aznpridechinese> i'm not using windows
[03:06] <aznpridechinese> i'm in kubuntu feisty
[03:06] <dr_willis> i doubt if anyone 'hacked' into your feisty box.
[03:06] <dr_willis> its possible theres some hardware issues going on.
[03:06] <NickPresta> aznpridechinese, do you get any strange errors at boot up or do you have to do anything to cause these problems to happen? Can you reproduce them at any time? And are you on a laptop?
[03:07] <frojnd> how can I shutdown server? and how can I shut down ubuntu in with command line?
[03:07] <aznpridechinese> no i'm on a high end pc
[03:07] <aznpridechinese> and no i don't get any errors on bootup
[03:07] <intelikey> aznpridechinese check your logs
[03:07] <aznpridechinese> in anycase i'd just like to burn ubuntu iso image onto my dvd-rw disc
[03:07] <aznpridechinese> how do i check the log?
[03:08] <NickPresta> being on a high-end system doesn't mean you can't have hardware support problems. You should go to pastebin and post the output of "dmesg" and "lshw".
[03:08] <intelikey> you search through them ?
[03:08] <dr_willis> high end pc. dosent meanmuch.. If you system is having hardware issues that may be whats going on with the burning also.
[03:08] <intelikey> aznpridechinese /var/log/*
[03:08] <zer0> hello
[03:08] <HighHo> frojnd:  init 6
[03:08] <zer0> kan anyone speek private?
[03:08] <aznpridechinese> how do i paste it?
[03:08] <NickPresta> aznpridechinese, also, check out /var/log/syslog, /var/log/boot
[03:08] <vzduch> HighHo: 'init 6' == reboot; for shutdown use 'init 0'
[03:09] <intelikey> and "high end" does mean that the hardware is probably not nearly as well supported
[03:09] <NickPresta> sorry, not /var/log/boot
[03:09] <intelikey> !paste | aznpridechinese
[03:09] <ubotu> aznpridechinese: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:09] <BluesKaj> zer0, just ask your question
[03:10] <aznpridechinese> i can't access the text in GUI so i don't know how to actually copy everything in CLI and paste them into GUI
[03:10] <intelikey> zer0 most of us only speek english
[03:10] <dr_willis> cant access what text in gui?
[03:10] <dr_willis> fire up konsole, and use the commands there..
[03:10] <dr_willis> !konsole
[03:10] <dr_willis> !term
[03:10] <intelikey> !cli
[03:11] <dr_willis> !sexy beach 3
[03:11] <dr_willis> :)
[03:11] <intelikey> dead bot
[03:11] <NickPresta> aznpridechinese, also, you may want to check out "top" in a console, and see if there are any odd spikes in usage that can be attributed to these problems.
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konsole - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about term - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sexy beach 3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <dr_willis> !lag
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lag - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <vzduch> o0
[03:12] <aznpridechinese> what is top in a console?
[03:12] <stoned> ubotu: you don't know nothin
[03:13] <stoned> aznpridechinese: processor monitor
[03:13] <aznpridechinese> and i still can't figure out how to to paste from CLI to a GUI
[03:13] <stoned> I like htop
[03:13] <stoned> aznpridechinese: just select whatever you want
[03:13] <NickPresta> any variation of top is fine ;)
[03:13] <stoned> then paste with middle click
[03:13] <stoned> or click the mousewheel
[03:13] <aznpridechinese> well this thing that freezes up my computer and types things hasn't happened before, and i've been using linux for about 5 days now
[03:14] <stoned> don't give up
[03:14] <aznpridechinese> it only lets me select so much though
[03:14] <stoned> what thing freezes up?
[03:14] <intelikey> ".net is designed specially to be used by 4.0 browsers and above. If you are using an older version, you may download the latest free by clicking the following: Internet Explorer and/or Netscape Navigator"        hehheh !   i'm using " ELinks 0.10.6 "   :)
[03:14] <oslo> hi do you know how to use cross-compiling ? arm-linux ???
[03:14] <dr_willis> oslo,  i recall the 'nslu' unslung web site had some docs on tha topic. :)
[03:14] <dr_willis> since i think the NSLU2 used an ARM cpu.
[03:14] <stoned> go to #ubuntu
[03:15] <intelikey> aznpridechinese one simple test.  if you think that there is really a cracker on your box.   disconnect it from the net and see if it changes.
[03:15] <dr_willis> i wonder where my NSLU2 went...
[03:15] <intelikey> oh duh no one can disconnect anymore.... what am i thinking.....
[03:15] <stoned> nslu sounds like a university name
[03:15] <oslo> dr_willis> i gonna check
[03:15] <dr_willis> intelikey,  :)
[03:16] <intelikey> :)
[03:16] <BluesKaj> aznpridechinese, type the word ' top ' in the konsole, you'll find Konsole in the k-menu in the "system "
[03:16] <aznpridechinese> ok
[03:19] <aznpridechinese> top showed a bunch of things processes and root users etc
[03:19] <oslo> dr_willis> this one http://www.nslu2-linux.org ?
[03:20] <aznpridechinese> it's not doing anything right now
[03:20] <BluesKaj> oh aznpridechinese , i thought someone told you what to look for
[03:20] <BluesKaj> cuz i don't know either :)
[03:21] <intelikey> root users ???
[03:22] <intelikey> aznpridechinese that sounds a lot like a crack  yeah.     unless you have root doing something you should disconnect and fix that
[03:25] <jim87410> I have services running under root and I know my system is ok.
[03:25] <BluesKaj> intelikey, what would a cracker look like ?
[03:25] <K-Ryan> BluesKaj: Usually white and comes in plastic
[03:25] <K-Ryan> =)
[03:26] <intelikey> BluesKaj like an uninvited guest
[03:26] <BluesKaj> or some 14 yrold scriptkiddie with pimples and coke bottle glasses :)
[03:27] <BluesKaj> in top , what does a std safe output look like ?
[03:29] <intelikey> BluesKaj normal output would have no root users in it.
[03:30] <BluesKaj> i have several  'root' in the list but no 'root users'
[03:30] <intelikey> correct "but no 'root users'"
[03:32] <BluesKaj> for ex:   31 root      20  -5     0    0    0 S  0.0  0.0   0:00.00 kacpid
[03:32] <intelikey> in fact on any system in this channel except mine seeing root users would be a red flag       "most likely"
[03:34] <intelikey> BluesKaj also  who  or  w   if root shows up then you need to see what is going on
[03:35] <intelikey> of course yours wont look like mine.
[03:35] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]  who
[03:35] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]
[03:37] <NickPresta> Wow, the Cube Atlantis plugin for Compiz Fusion is neat...
[03:38] <zerothis> is there a terminal that shows colored docments in color AND does unicode?
[03:38] <BluesKaj> show me yours and I'll show you mine :)  don't wann a use that request when it comes to discussing a 'root" :)
[03:38] <NickPresta> speaking of Compiz Fusion, how stable is it in comparison to Beryl 0.2.1?
[03:38] <zerothis> or shell, rather
[03:39] <BluesKaj> it's alll window dressing anyway , NickPresta  :0
[03:40] <intelikey> unicode any shell/terminal/console   but colour is another ball of wax
[03:40] <NickPresta> BluesKaj, I know. I just don't want to switch to CF when Beryl 0.2.1 is running perfectly fine for me. I don't see any _huge_ new plugins.
[03:40] <intelikey> and yes they all do colour  but not like you might  think
[03:41] <intelikey>  or maybe you would  think ...
[03:41] <intelikey> idk
[03:41] <NickPresta> heh
[03:41] <zerothis> I can get konsole to show unicode, I can get konsole to show color, does seem to do both at once.
[03:42] <zerothis> does not, rather
[03:43] <TeraDyne> I really should start remembering to close Konversation before using irssi...
[03:45] <bertina> yes
[03:47] <dr_willis> show what color?
[03:49] <intelikey> hmmm odd unicode seems to be broken on dapper
[03:49] <zerothis> show color in documents, HTML for instance. not link/visitedlin/text color per se, but the the document text is designed in
[03:49] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/38029
[03:49] <intelikey> zerothis ?
[03:49] <intelikey> what are you viewing the text with ?
[03:49] <zerothis> elinks
[03:50] <intelikey> it does colour by default
[03:50] <intelikey> "which i always turn off"
[03:50] <intelikey> get in the menu and confriggr it
[03:52] <TeraDyne> *sigh* What's the package for the Kontact newsgroup reader?
[03:52] <dr_willis> hmm.. only Konsole color i can think of is the LS color  of the filenames.
[03:52] <intelikey> how ever i should note that console != konsole  so  terminal emulatores
[03:52] <intelikey> meh.
[03:53] <dr_willis> so what one are we talking about..  Bah.. never mind. :) i dont care any more. heh
[03:53] <intelikey> ls --color=auto    ?
[03:53] <jhutchins> grep does color these days, as does vi.
[03:53] <BluesKaj> dr_willis, have another beer :)
[03:53] <dr_willis> grep does?
[03:53] <intelikey> mc also
[03:53] <zerothis> konsole linux console +elinks shows color for me, but unicode is all questionmarks. konsole shell shows all the unicode but in b&w
[03:53] <intelikey> dr_willis yes
[03:54] <intelikey> has for several releases
[03:54] <dr_willis> i cant recall that optionb.. but my grep books are a bit old. :)
[03:54] <dr_willis> i do recall using some 'colorizer' tool ages ago
[03:54] <dr_willis> colorizing my logs :)
[03:54] <intelikey> grep          --colour[=WHEN] , --color[=WHEN]
[03:55] <TeraDyne> nevermind my question. It was knode that I was looking for.
[03:56] <dr_willis> grep share smb.conf   --color
[03:56] <dr_willis> thats handy :)
[03:56] <zerothis> konsole: Unknown option '--color=auto'.
[03:56] <dr_willis> ls --color=auto
[03:57] <dr_willis> ls option, not a konsole option.
[03:57] <dr_willis> :)
[03:57] <intelikey> man grep | grep --colour=auto colour -A 2
[03:57] <intelikey> :)
[03:57] <semistud2354> i have a problem....everytime i make a link to ----------sudo ln -s /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:1---- it makes the link but when i reboot its gone....any ideas how to make it permanent
[03:58] <dr_willis> Now do 'color' OR 'colour' :)
[03:58] <semistud2354> ????
[03:59] <dr_willis> semistud2354,  dare we ask  Why you are making that link?
[03:59] <intelikey> semistud2354 sure tell the initramfs image not to mount ram on that dir
[03:59] <intelikey> semistud2354 cat /proc/mounts
[03:59] <intelikey> :)
[03:59] <semistud2354> if i make that link i get the reboot, shutdown buttions back when i run beryl
[03:59] <semistud2354> ok...so what do i type in konsole
[04:00] <intelikey> echo '\nln -s /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:1' >> /etc/rc.local      :)
[04:01] <intelikey> but you'll have to be root  ;/
[04:01] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: probably have to do that with sudo and tee on a buntu box
[04:01] <semistud2354> so sudo echo '\nln -s /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:1' >> /etc/rc.local
[04:01] <keisangi> hi there, i was wondering if it's possible to configure this in kde:  double click on the desktop to open a new dolphin window.. what do you think , is it possible ?
[04:01] <semistud2354> thats the command right
[04:01] <semistud2354> ??
[04:01] <intelikey> hitmanWilly or do it as root.
[04:02] <panxito__> hi
[04:02] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: somehow i doubt semistud2354 has a root acct set up...
[04:02] <intelikey> semistud2354 that would add the line to the /etc/rc.local file so it would run at boot time.
[04:02] <intelikey> hitmanWilly sudo -i  is setup .....
[04:02] <dr_willis> sound like a lot of annoyance for Beryl :)
[04:03] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: ok, that might work then
[04:03] <semistud2354> o..i can do that manually from kate
[04:03] <intelikey> :)
[04:03] <semistud2354> lol
[04:03] <semistud2354> right
[04:03] <semistud2354> ??
[04:03] <intelikey> yeah
[04:03] <semistud2354> it would be alot easier to follow
[04:03] <dr_willis> kdesu kate /etc/rc.local
[04:03] <semistud2354> then just add the commands
[04:03] <dr_willis>  put it at the end.. but befor the exit 0 command. (if i rember right)
[04:04] <intelikey> semistud2354 yes.   and you don't need the sudo of your link command   cause init will be running that script
[04:04] <intelikey> dr_willis there an exit command in there by default ?
[04:05] <intelikey> i didn't think rc.local had one  ???
[04:05] <semistud2354> ok...im gonna reboot n check it out...
[04:05] <semistud2354> brb
[04:05] <semistud2354> HOPE IT WORKS
[04:05] <intelikey> yes you do
[04:07] <dr_willis> intelikey,  i forget.. i seemto recall there being one at the end.
[04:09] <semistud2354> it didnt work
[04:10] <intelikey> what didn't work about it ?   does the link exist now ?
[04:11] <semistud2354> i put the--ln -s /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:1-- before the exit 0 command in etc/rc.local
[04:11] <semistud2354> and it didnt work
[04:11] <semistud2354> should i put it after the exit 0 thing....or it doesnt matter
[04:12] <semistud2354> or should i put sudo ln -s /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:1
[04:12] <intelikey> ls /var/run/xdmctl*
[04:13] <semistud2354> im going to try to put it after the exit 0 ill be right back
[04:14] <intelikey> semistud2354 after the exit will do what ?     lets see the script runs commands that it contains, so when it "exits" then it will ahhh .....   ahhh......      that's right.  it won't do anything, it exited
[04:14] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: too late
[04:15] <intelikey> and so did he.....
[04:15] <hitmanWilly> im gonna laugh when he comes back saying it didn't do anything
[04:15] <TeraDyne> Anyone want to hear something funny, but sad and stupid at the same time?
[04:15] <intelikey> i wish he would have ran the ls on that dir
[04:15] <K-Ryan> TeraDyne: Shoot
[04:16] <hitmanWilly> it should have if its in the rc.local file and typed in right
[04:16] <intelikey> hitmanWilly yes.
[04:17] <TeraDyne> I was trying to set up a newsgroup account, and the site says it needs a UN and Pass. Well, I spent the last 5 minutes trying to get it to work.  Trying to pay attention to something on my windows box across the room.
[04:22] <intelikey> /exit the insanity is destroying the last fragment of inteligence i had left
[04:22] <K-Ryan> TeraDyne: Just letting ya' know
[04:23] <__Chris1> What does it mean if I can get here, but my Firefox says I can't connect to any websites?
[04:23] <TeraDyne> K-Ryan: And I thank you for doing so.
[04:23] <semistud2354> ok...so i put...sudo my link..before the exit 0 command
[04:23] <semistud2354> is that right
[04:23] <semistud2354> ??
[04:23] <BluesKaj> ax1s is angry , but gone ...will have to remind him about his language when he rejoins
[04:23] <holycow> hello
[04:23] <Hambletonian> OK, bye...
[04:23] <intelikey> semistud2354 no
[04:23] <K-Ryan> You're welcome TeraDyne
[04:23] <semistud2354> this is an anoyance that i have been living with since i installed beryl
[04:23] <semistud2354> ok...
[04:23] <dr_willis> __Chris1,  Ive seen a few others have similer issues.. Not sure whats going on. never did see them get an answer/fix. but there may be some forum hits.
[04:23] <intelikey> semistud2354 it doesn't need sudo   init is greater than root...
[04:23] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: don't use sudo, rc.local is run as init (root access)
[04:24] <semistud2354> so just ----ln -s /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/xdmctl-:1---
[04:24] <__Chris1> dr_willis - Thanks.  It's always worked, and now tonight, no go...
[04:24] <intelikey> yes
[04:24] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: actually, using sudo might make it NOT work
[04:24] <TeraDyne> XD I crashed my WinXP box. All I was doing was transfering a copy of the Ubuntu Server ISO...
[04:24] <semistud2354> ok...i didnt use it...i was just wonering why it didnt work....
[04:24] <semistud2354> do i have to make the link in the konsole...then put it in rc.local...
[04:25] <semistud2354> so it protects it
[04:25] <semistud2354> or...is this method...making the link automatically upon startup
[04:25] <dr_willis> semistud2354,  the command makes that link
[04:25] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: making it automatically on startup
[04:25] <dr_willis> rc.local would then be makng that link with the command.
[04:26] <intelikey> semistud2354 i know what the error is.    the destination file is not present when the ln command runs.
[04:26] <semistud2354> it works when i type it in konsole
[04:26] <semistud2354> should i space them out
[04:26] <semistud2354> like command....enter...command
[04:27] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: its one cmd
[04:27] <intelikey> semistud2354 no it's not making it on startup like it should because the target is missing until several seconds later.     put    sleep 60    on the line above the command
[04:27] <dr_willis>  /me looks for his Bash tutorial links.
[04:27] <pagan0ne> this is going to sound like a really noob question, but is there a way to upload sompthing over ssh?
[04:27] <dr_willis> pagan0ne,  'scp' can do that.
[04:27] <dr_willis> pagan0ne,  windows can use 'winscp'
[04:27] <semistud2354> just sleep 60
[04:27] <semistud2354> ??
[04:27] <semistud2354> thats it
[04:27] <semistud2354> ??
[04:27] <intelikey> semistud2354 yes
[04:27] <dr_willis> semistud2354,  that command will make the script pause for 1 min.. then do the next command..
[04:28] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: before the link cmd
[04:28] <pagan0ne> anywhere i could go to get a quick rundown of how to use scp?
[04:28] <holycow> or you can use konqueror and login with ssh://yourusername@ip.add.dd.ress:portnumber
[04:28] <ira> anyovmware?
[04:28] <intelikey> sleep 60
[04:28] <holycow> and transfer that way
[04:28] <intelikey> ln -s /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:1
[04:28] <dr_willis> pagan0ne,  literally 100's if not 10000's of tuorial sites out there on ssh and scp
[04:28] <semistud2354> well i want it created instantly
[04:28] <ira> sorry any one using vmware
[04:28] <pagan0ne> ok thanks
[04:28] <intelikey> semistud2354 no can do.
[04:28] <dr_willis> pagan0ne,  scp is supposed to work like 'cp' as much as possiuble
[04:28] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: i can't remember, is that 6 or 60 secs?
[04:28] <dr_willis> I never can rember the right way to use it either. :)
[04:28] <TeraDyne> !anyone | ira
[04:28] <ubotu> ira: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:28] <semistud2354> well can i put it like 30 sec
[04:28] <semistud2354> lol
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: or .6?
[04:29] <ira> cant get sound on vmware any clues
[04:29] <semistud2354> so which one do you think i should try first??
[04:29] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: nm, maned it
[04:29] <intelikey> hitmanWilly sleep counts seconds
[04:29] <semistud2354> so could i put like
[04:30] <semistud2354> sleep 3
[04:30] <semistud2354> lol
[04:30] <intelikey> semistud2354 sure you can
[04:30] <ira> Virtualization is great cept when it doesnt work :-)
[04:30] <intelikey> and then add 1   until it actually works if you like
[04:30] <semistud2354> but it has to have sleep in order for it to make a link??
[04:30] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: sleep==pause
[04:30] <semistud2354> like sleep...link...then exit 0
[04:30] <intelikey> but i suspect about 25 reboots using that methood
[04:30] <K-Ryan> Is anyone good at ACM?
[04:30] <K-Ryan> !info acm
[04:30] <ubotu> acm: A multi-player aerial combat simulation. In component universe, is optional. Version 5.0-23.1 (feisty), package size 713 kB, installed size 1368 kB
[04:31] <intelikey> semistud2354   until ln -s /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:1 ;do sleep 1 ;done
[04:31] <intelikey> whiner.
[04:31] <ira> !info vmware
[04:31] <ubotu> Package vmware does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[04:31] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: nice
[04:31] <K-Ryan> !vmware
[04:31] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[04:31] <semistud2354> ok im confused
[04:31] <hitmanWilly> never thought of going that route
[04:31] <pagan0ne> dr_willis: so scp works like     scp file/to/copy user@#.#.#.#:port place/to/cp/to
[04:31] <BluesKaj> ira, before powering up your guest OS , click the guest OS , then choose 'edit virtual machine settings ' , then click on add and you'll have the option to choose sound
[04:31] <semistud2354> i thought i was suppos to put it before the command
[04:31] <semistud2354> not after
[04:32] <hitmanWilly> of course if the error is something else it'll never boot :)
[04:32] <intelikey> semistud2354 whiner.   just use that command in the rc.local     nothing else.
[04:32] <ira> thank I iwll try that now
[04:32] <intelikey> semistud2354   until ln -s /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:1 ;do sleep 1 ;done
[04:32] <BluesKaj> ira, err add sound
[04:32] <intelikey> that will keep trying until it succedes
[04:32] <intelikey> e
[04:33] <intelikey> hitmanWilly looping the ln command will not prevent boot in rc.local
[04:34] <intelikey> hitmanWilly it will only prevent rc.local from exiting
[04:34] <intelikey> it still wouldn't.   it's the last thing called
[04:34] <semistud2354> that would keep trying to make a link till it succedes
[04:34] <semistud2354> ??
[04:35] <hitmanWilly> oh, duh, last line....
[04:35] <intelikey> semistud2354   until ln -s /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0 /var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:1 ;do sleep 1 ;done    <<<<< that would semistud2354
[04:36] <intelikey> and one should single quote those file names
[04:36] <intelikey> semistud2354   until ln -s '/var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:0' '/var/run/xdmctl/dmctl-:1' ;do sleep 1 ;done
[04:37] <semistud2354> whats the single quote do
[04:37] <intelikey> should work without the quotes but special chars like - and  :  can react irraticlly with different commands .
[04:38] <intelikey> semistud2354 protect the file name from interpretation
[04:38] <semistud2354> if i didnt have that...would it still work
[04:38] <semistud2354> or would that totally mess up the operation
[04:39] <intelikey> see next to last post ^
[04:39] <semistud2354> o...lol...my ba
[04:39] <semistud2354> bad
[04:39] <semistud2354> ok..here goes im going to reastart
[04:39] <ircusr> hi leilelfag!
[04:40] <intelikey> ircusr do you truely believe you have just cause to attack that nickname ?
[04:41] <ircusr> he attacked first
[04:41] <intelikey> is that just cause ?
[04:41] <ircusr> yes
[04:42] <intelikey> wouldn't it be easier, smarter, and much more family friendly to just ignore the user ?
[04:42] <ircusr> nope
[04:42] <ircusr> :D
[04:42] <ritztech> anyone get emerald to work right with beryl Eeeeek
[04:42] <netdaemon> is there a way to run ubiquity without it insisting on fetching the package lists?
[04:42] <intelikey> then maybe my best action here would be to bring that to the attention of the ops rather than argue with you ircusr
[04:43] <ircusr> no need
[04:43] <ircusr> im on my way out
[04:43] <ircusr> bye
[04:43] <semistud2354> SUCCESS!!!!
[04:44] <semistud2354> thank you guys....
[04:44] <semistud2354> i love you guys
[04:44] <intelikey> semistud2354 what did you expect ?
[04:44] <intelikey> heh.
[04:44] <NickPresta> Compiz Fusion still isn't good enough for me. Although it's settings manager is sweet...
[04:44] <intelikey> that's my one smart elic remark for the day...  :)
[04:44] <BluesKaj> oh feel the luuuv ..  ;)
[04:45] <intelikey> netdaemon not that i know of.  but that doesn't preclude the possability
[04:45] <hero> where would a thumb drive be mounted? kde asked me if i wanted to open it and i said yes, but no window ever came up
[04:46] <intelikey> hero /media/ something
[04:46] <NickPresta> somewhere in /media
[04:46] <hero> hm
[04:46] <semistud2354> i have a question....i have a probem with my friends computer......his windows just suddenly freezez....for the logest time ive been trying to switch him to linux...
[04:46] <hero> only cdrom0 is there
[04:46] <zibrah3ed> .. /media/disk most likely
[04:46] <semistud2354> does linux have a registry...that messes up
[04:46] <zibrah3ed> no
[04:46] <semistud2354> questions like this...i have trouble ansering
[04:46] <netdaemon> i'm looking at the options right now, don't see anything...
[04:46] <intelikey> hero or /media/sd?
[04:46] <hero> only cdrom0 is in /media :(
[04:47] <intelikey> semistud2354 registry ?   what's that ?
[04:47] <BluesKaj> hero,system menu/staorge media
[04:47] <BluesKaj> er storage media
[04:47] <semistud2354> im not to sure myself...he has like...this registry cleaner
[04:47] <semistud2354> computer optimizer
[04:47] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: nix config options are usually kept in individual text files
[04:47] <Macrosoft> hero
[04:47] <hero> BluesKaj: again, only cdrom0 is there
[04:47] <semistud2354> all this bull software
[04:48] <BluesKaj> gawd, that's just spyware semistud2354
[04:48] <hero> Macrosoft
[04:48] <Macrosoft> hero: you could check /mnt/
[04:48] <semistud2354> do linux computers suddenly with out notice freez
[04:48] <hero> nothing
[04:48] <TeraDyne> hero, is there an icon of a usb stick on your desktop?
[04:48] <semistud2354> thats what his windows comp is doing
[04:48] <TeraDyne> hero: If not, it's not mounted.
[04:48] <Macrosoft> try computer://
[04:48] <hero> semistud2354: no
[04:48] <semistud2354> like starts...runs 2 or 3 programs...small ones..it freezes suddenly
[04:48] <intelikey> semistud2354 if they freeze it's usually without notice.  but a stable system running stable apps doesn't normally do that.
[04:48] <hero> TeraDyne: ok.
[04:49] <varaonaid> hi, i'm trying to gain write access to a shared partition (ext3 format) and i can't seem to figure it out
[04:49] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: VERY^100 rarely
[04:49] <TeraDyne> hero: remove it and reinsert it.
[04:49] <Macrosoft> varaonaid: use chmod
[04:49] <intelikey> this box has never froze with dapper drake.
[04:49] <semistud2354> what can i tell him...
[04:49] <hero> TeraDyne: yeah, i did that but nothing happened
[04:50] <semistud2354> to persuade him
[04:50] <semistud2354> to switch to linux
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> ive used nix for over 15 years now and have had that happen twice
[04:50] <TeraDyne> hero: that's odd. that's very odd.
[04:50] <Macrosoft> hero: is there an activity light on your flash drive?
[04:50] <hero> TeraDyne: yes.
[04:50] <dr_willis> varaonaid,  you want a single user to have full access to a ext3 partition?
[04:50] <intelikey> !virus | semistud2354
[04:50] <ubotu> semistud2354: A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[04:50] <hero> Macrosoft: yes. it lights up when i insert it
[04:50] <dr_willis> varaonaid,  like for extra 'data' storage?
[04:50] <varaonaid> dr_willis: yes, exactly
[04:50] <Macrosoft> hero: is it flashing?
[04:50] <hitmanWilly> both times after monkeying around with important kernel level configs
[04:50] <intelikey> semistud2354 maybe point him to the link  ^
[04:51] <semistud2354> why is it harder to hack
[04:51] <hero> Macrosoft: no, steady light. incidentally, amarok had a popup come up
[04:51] <dr_willis> varaonaid,  what i DO is this.. I make a directory On that partition, i chown it to be owned by the user.  he can write fully to THAT dir.. ( and fill up the drive if he wants to)
[04:51] <semistud2354> why are viruses rair
[04:51] <semistud2354> rare
[04:51] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: see the above link
[04:51] <hero> semistud2354: read the article
[04:51] <dr_willis> varaonaid,  and then i normally make a link from that mountedfilesystem/Username TO his /home/username/Storage dir.
[04:51] <semistud2354> kkk
[04:51] <dr_willis> varaonaid,  he dosent need full access to the 'root' of the filesystem.
[04:51] <Macrosoft> hero: it may not be mounted, so it may be safe to unplug it and then plug it in again
[04:52] <hero> Macrosoft: yes, i've done that numerous times
[04:52] <intelikey> !security | semistud2354
[04:52] <ubotu> semistud2354: If you feel the need to adopt security measures for your system, check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server
[04:52] <netdaemon> how would i go about updating the local ubiquity?
[04:52] <varaonaid> dr_willis: so the user has full access to that dir but the technically the whole drive?
[04:52] <dr_willis> varaonaid,  yep..
[04:52] <semistud2354> not me...my buddy
[04:52] <dr_willis> varaonaid,  i got 5+ drives set up that way. :)
[04:52] <varaonaid> dr_willis: cool, very ingenious!!  thanks a bunch :)
[04:52] <Macrosoft> hero: is it the only flash drive plugged to you comp right now?
[04:52] <hero> yes
[04:53] <intelikey> netdaemon sudo apt-get install ubiquity   ?
[04:53] <hero> and the package had a penguin on it
[04:53] <dr_willis> varaonaid,   you could move his whole home dir to that drive if ya wanted to.
[04:53] <netdaemon> eh...
[04:53] <netdaemon> i'll try i suppose
[04:53] <dr_willis> varaonaid,  or mount the drive as /home :)
[04:53] <Macrosoft> hero: then try this as root: mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[04:53] <semistud2354> so somehow...in order for a virus to be a threat
[04:53] <varaonaid> dr_willis: awesome!  i love having those different options
[04:53] <zibrah3ed> won't work you need to specify the filesystem
[04:53] <semistud2354> it had to know your password???
[04:53] <intelikey> semistud2354 go read those links ubotu gave you.  i'm sure several thing will be apearant that you can use.
[04:53] <semistud2354> am i reading it correctly
[04:53] <varaonaid> dr_willis: again, many thanks!!! :D
[04:53] <hero> mount point does not exist. so i have to create that directory? sda1?
[04:53] <dr_willis> varaonaid,  get hardkore and have /home on a different machine. :) is a neat trick.
[04:54] <Macrosoft> hero: yes, the folder has to exist first, i forgot about that
[04:54] <zibrah3ed> hero: yes sudo mkdir /media/sda1
[04:54] <varaonaid> dr_willis: woooww!  very cool capability!
[04:55] <hero> ok, but sda1 is my hard drive, which is already mounted heh
[04:56] <Macrosoft> then try sdb1
[04:56] <hero> k
[04:56] <Macrosoft> unless thats your cdrom
[04:56] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: for a virus to effectively work in nix, it needs root or higher level access, which is rather uncommon for user installed apps, plus to propogate itself, it would need root access on every linux machine it comes in contact with, which makes it very hard for transmission
[04:56] <intelikey> echo 'alias mkdir="/bin/mkdir -p" >> ~.bash_bashrc
[04:56] <intelikey> ooops
[04:56] <hero> alright
[04:56] <intelikey> echo 'alias mkdir="/bin/mkdir -p"' >> ~.bash_bashrc
[04:56] <intelikey> there.
[04:56] <hero> i had a feeling i'd have to mount it manually
[04:56] <hero> !automount
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <hero> hm
[04:56] <BluesKaj> Macrosoft, hero, the drive should show up automatically ...there' gotta be something else wrong
[04:56] <TeraDyne> !mount
[04:56] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Kubuntu, go to System Settings -> Advanced Tab -> Disks & Filesystem. See also !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:56] <semistud2354> so it would need the user name and password of every linux machine
[04:56] <hero> BluesKaj: such as?
[04:56] <TeraDyne> Not what I expected...
[04:57] <Macrosoft> we know, thats why hes doing it manually
[04:57] <semistud2354> and...on top of that spread fast enough so that no one can make a patch
[04:57] <semistud2354> am i right
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: or for a buffer overflow type attack, the exploited app would need to be running in root, so same deal
[04:57] <semistud2354> ??
[04:57] <hero> the drive has a knoppix distro on it
[04:57] <hero> but i don't see why that would prevent automounting
[04:57] <intelikey> TeraDyne i concure, that infonode doesn't belong there
[04:57] <hitmanWilly> semistud2354: at least to do any real damage to the system
[04:57] <Macrosoft> hero: it shouldnt
[04:57] <hero> yeah
[04:57] <hero> strange
[04:57] <Macrosoft> any luck mounting it yet
[04:57] <hero> yeah, it's mounted, i can see data and all that
[04:57] <Macrosoft> good
[04:57] <hero> just to get it to mount/umount automatically
[04:58] <Macrosoft> you using kde?
[04:58] <hero> !flash drive
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about flash drive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <hero> yep
[04:58] <hero> kde 3.5.6
[04:58] <BluesKaj> !USB
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <Macrosoft> oh, i only know how to set startup commands for GNOME startup
[04:58] <hero> yes, the bot is worthless at times :D
[04:59] <hero> Macrosoft: uh, in case you didn't notice, this is #kubuntu :P
[04:59] <BluesKaj> !key
[04:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about key - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:59] <BluesKaj> gawd
[04:59] <TeraDyne> !brain
[04:59] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot.
[05:00] <Stratys> hitmanwilly thank you
[05:00] <Macrosoft> yes, it strangely mac OS-ish
[05:00] <intelikey> linus who ?
[05:01] <hitmanWilly> Stratys: np :)
[05:01] <hero> intelikey: heh.
[05:01] <hero> alright, so i have to mount the usb drive manually
[05:01] <Macrosoft> yep
[05:01] <intelikey> stalman who ?
[05:01] <hero> that sucks
[05:01] <dr_willis> MatchBox
[05:02] <Macrosoft> i think there's a init.d folder you can add a script to, to mount it for you
[05:02] <TeraDyne> Fluxbox
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> and, yes, intelikey, i know your strategy as well :)
[05:02] <hero> Macrosoft: well, that's beyond my skill.
[05:02] <dr_willis> AmigaWM!
[05:02] <dr_willis> :)
[05:02] <hitmanWilly> altho i do use a lot of QT apps
[05:02] <Macrosoft> be back
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> intelikey: i was talking about your almost nonexistant use of X in general
[05:03] <intelikey> oh that.  that's not strategy, that's just common sense...  :)
[05:03] <hitmanWilly> strategy may have been the wrong word, tho
[05:03] <intelikey> hitmanWilly :)
[05:04] <intelikey> hero fstab ?
[05:04] <TeraDyne> irssi + ogg123 + vim = OS
[05:04] <hero> what about it?
[05:04] <hero> just put that mount info in?
[05:04] <intelikey> ok.
[05:04] <hero> pray it's automatic?
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> i'm kind of gui agnostic, if an app i like is gui or not, i'll use what works for me
[05:05] <intelikey> hero it is automatic
[05:05] <intelikey> that's what fstab is for.
[05:05] <hero> intelikey: alright
[05:05] <intelikey> fstab=file system table
[05:05] <TeraDyne> hitmanWilly: I use whatever doesn't crash my laptop.
[05:05] <hitmanWilly> lol
[05:05] <hero> yeah but isn't fstab read on boot-up?
[05:05] <intelikey> yes and anytime a mount command is issued
[05:05] <dr_willis> one of the init scripts does a mount -a I belive.. :)
[05:06] <hero> so i still have to mount it manually, even after putting the info into fstab?
[05:06] <fitoria_> hey i have a problem with a hp deskjet 656c printer
[05:06] <fitoria_> the configuration tool says it is an apollo
[05:06] <fitoria_> i tried to change the ulr
[05:06] <fitoria_> but it didnt work
[05:06] <intelikey> hero example.    /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom auto noauto,user,users 0 0   <<<  then you only need issue   mount /media/cdrom      and it mounts.
[05:06] <__Chris> All - I can get on here... But my Firefox doesn't work.  Can't find any URLs.  It did work great.  Tonight, when I powered up the machine, and started it, and launched Firefox, it said it was validating my plugins.  But it seemed to get stuck after several minutes, so I clicked cancel.  Is that why it quit working?
[05:07] <hitmanWilly> hero: you can set it up that way with noauto, but if kde detects any device listed in fstab, it'll try to mount it, or at least ask what to do
[05:07] <dr_willis> __Chris,  try making a new user. see if it affects them also..
[05:07] <dr_willis> __Chris,  could try a different browser also. Like Opera, or konqueror
[05:07] <hero> hitmanWilly: ok, good
[05:07] <hero> so don't use noauto
[05:07] <fitoria_> hp:/usb/hpDeskjet_656C_hpijs?serial=THSBCLTW88
[05:07] <__Chris> Konqueror works, but the java doesn't work on the page I want to go to, and firefox did.
[05:08] <fitoria_> hp:/usb/APOLLO_P2500_2600?serial=THSBCLTW88
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> hero: actually, yes, for a removeable drive
[05:08] <__Chris> Does Opera support Java?
[05:08] <fitoria_> yeah
[05:08] <hero> hitmanWilly: so what intelikey said should work fine then and kde will recognize the drive upon connection?
[05:08] <hitmanWilly> hero: it should
[05:08] <intelikey> hero also one might be well advised to use the blkid for the device
[05:08] <hero> blkid?
[05:09] <Ahmuck> hi, after installing apache2 i am unable to access port 110 localhost.  how do i re-enable it?
[05:09] <intelikey> blkid=block ident...      the id the fs has on it's first block.
[05:09] <hero> instead of /dev/hdb1?
[05:09] <hero> sorry, i got confused
[05:09] <intelikey> hero yes and there is a command that will display that,   named  ahhh ahhh   "blkid"
[05:10] <hero> ok, so i would put that id where /dev/hdb1 would be, correct?
[05:10] <intelikey> yes
[05:10] <hero> i got it right
[05:10] <hero> it's hdb1
[05:10] <hero> what's the best fs to have on the drive itself? right now it's msdos
[05:11] <hero> i want to be able to use it on windows machines too
[05:11] <hero> er, it's vfat
[05:11] <intelikey> probably vfat if you want it portable.
[05:11] <hero> k
[05:11] <intelikey> i.e. if you expect M$ to access it.
[05:11] <hero> so here's the fstab line:  /dev/sdb1	/media/sdb1	auto noauto,user,users 0 0
[05:11] <hero> er, it omitted the tabs
[05:11] <hero> but you get it, right?
[05:12] <intelikey> right
[05:12] <hero> k
[05:12] <intelikey> but the block id
[05:12] <hero> the UUID?
[05:12] <TuxOtaku> hey, I'm currently using GNOME but trying to install KDE via the kubuntu-desktop metapackage.....apt keeps giving me dependency errors when I go to install it though
[05:12] <hero> ./dev/sdb1: SEC_TYPE="msdos" UUID="6488-592C" TYPE="vfat"
[05:12] <intelikey>  /dev/hdc2: UUID="9c8d7a43-dee1-41db-8ef5-96f672cbb020" TYPE="ext2"  <<<< something like that   so >>>  UUID="9c8d7a43-dee1-41db-8ef5-96f672cbb020" /media/sdb1     auto noauto,user,users 0 0  <<<<<
[05:12] <TuxOtaku> i'm running feisty, btw
[05:12] <intelikey> example ^
[05:12] <hero> ok, so that goes on the line
[05:13] <intelikey> yes
[05:13] <intelikey> hero note it replaced the /dev/sdb2
[05:13] <hero> you have a colon after /dev/hdc2?
[05:13] <TeraDyne> TuxOtaku: try "sudo apt-get install -f"
[05:13] <intelikey> or 1 or what ever
[05:13] <hero> ah
[05:13] <hero> UUID is the first part of the line
[05:13] <intelikey> hero only what's between >>  <<
[05:13] <TuxOtaku> TeraDyne, been there, done that....doesn't do jack.
[05:14] <xtr3me> TuxOtaku:  what error?
[05:14] <intelikey> and use your own blkid  not mine  :)
[05:14] <ritztech> is there a way to remote into the gui from a windows box
[05:14] <TeraDyne> TuxOtaku: Hmm...
[05:14] <TuxOtaku> xtr3me, this: (pardon the paste)
[05:14] <TuxOtaku> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:14] <TuxOtaku>   kubuntu-desktop: Depends: kdm but it is not going to be installed
[05:14] <TuxOtaku>                    Depends: kmplayer-konq-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[05:14] <TuxOtaku>                    Depends: konq-plugins but it is not going to be installed
[05:14] <TuxOtaku>                    Depends: kubuntu-default-settings but it is not going to be installed
[05:14] <Biovore> ritztech: vnc or rdp (if you have it setup)
[05:14] <TuxOtaku>                    Recommends: konqueror but it is not going to be installed
[05:14] <TuxOtaku>                    Recommends: kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts but it is not going to be installed
[05:14] <TuxOtaku> E: Broken packages
[05:14] <intelikey> wow nice flood
[05:14] <TeraDyne> !pastebin
[05:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[05:14] <ritztech> rdp
[05:14] <TuxOtaku> yeah, sorry.
[05:15] <hero> dang.
[05:15] <ritztech> like a simple rdp ... windows - windows ...
[05:16] <TuxOtaku> i try installing those conflicting packages one at a time, and i get an error saying the wrong version will be installed
[05:17] <Biovore> ritztech: yup..  You have to enable desktop sharing in kde first though..
[05:17] <ritztech> in other words remote into my linux from my office which only has win boxes
[05:17] <TuxOtaku> i figured maybe it was my sources.list....so I swapped it out with the default one....still, no dice.
[05:17] <ritztech> could i be able to use the traditional rdp provided with windows (mstsc)
[05:18] <beto> hello
[05:19] <beto> can someone help me with beryl
[05:19] <Biovore> ritztech: I think so.. I havn't messed with it much though..
[05:19] <intelikey> TuxOtaku dpkg -l | grep kde      and don't flood should it output lots just say that.
[05:19] <SonomaAway> beto: #beryl is the best place to help with beryl
[05:19] <beto> it disappears the task bar
[05:19] <intelikey> !beryl | beto
[05:20] <beto> ty
[05:20] <ubotu> beto: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. Help in #ubuntu-effects
[05:22] <intelikey> i smell horse biscuts
[05:24] <hero> got it figured out guys, thanks for the help
[05:24] <hero> and thanks for not telling me to man mount :D
[05:24] <intelikey> oh that's   man fstab
[05:24] <intelikey> :)
[05:24] <hero> heh
[05:24] <jhutchins_lt> intelikey: Actually, the buscuits I give my horses smell pretty wonderful.
[05:24] <iqag> ritztech:  http://tinyurl.com/255ou8
[05:24] <hero> although it mounted it at /media/disk instead of /media hdb1
[05:25] <jhutchins_lt> intelikey: The ones the horses make smell great if you dry them and burn them - just like an herbal inscence.
[05:25] <intelikey> jhutchins_lt the ones i smell ar the ones they give back to the field...
[05:25] <hero> so does that mean i can delete /media/hdb1?
[05:25] <iqag> Is there a way to make the embedded terminal in Konqueror exit cleanly when toggling it off with the toolbar button - i.e. so that shell history is preserved?
[05:26] <intelikey> hero you can test by commenting it out   # < this is now a comment.
[05:26] <intelikey> # this is another comment.
[05:26] <intelikey> # and this one.
[05:26] <intelikey> :)
[05:26] <hero> yeah, i know what comments are, but in fstab?
[05:26] <intelikey> yes
[05:26] <hero> so comment out the whole line i just put in?
[05:26] <hero> heh, that seems odd
[05:27] <__Chris> dr_willis - tried the new user, no luck.
[05:27] <intelikey> yeah if you wan't to test it.   i'm guessing that something in kde timmed out...     but i don't mess with kde ya know.
[05:27] <hero> *nod*
[05:28] <hero> since it mounted it automatically, i still need to umount it manually, though
[05:28] <intelikey> hero right click it's icon ?
[05:28] <jhutchins_lt> ; sometimes
[05:28] <hero> yeah. just found it heh
[05:28] <jhutchins_lt> ; these are comments
[05:28] <jhutchins_lt> / so are these in some files.
[05:28] <jhutchins_lt> er,
[05:28] <jhutchins_lt> // these
[05:28] <__Chris> dr_willis - I noticed that my gaim can't connect either...
[05:28] <intelikey> jhutchins_lt and don't forget :
[05:29] <jhutchins_lt> Of course <!--
[05:29] <intelikey> but in fstab  # would be propper
[05:30] <intelikey> 3 am already where does the night go ???
[05:30] <jhutchins_lt> 22:30 here.
[05:30] <jhutchins_lt> WTF are you, iceland?
[05:30] <intelikey> and where did the last 40 years go   ?

[05:31] <jhutchins_lt> Yeah, well, there's that.
[05:31] <jhutchins_lt> You're GMT then.
[05:31] <jhutchins_lt> It's 3:30 in that case.
[05:31] <jhutchins_lt> BDT.
[05:32] <intelikey> so is W in that Q kinda like  $[W,?]  ?
[05:33] <intelikey> {}
[05:35] <jhutchins_lt> /;
[05:35] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  you want somthing?
[05:36] <dr_willis> most people have dcc chating on auto-ignore.
[05:36] <SmurfSlayer> dr_willis - Sorry
[05:36] <dr_willis> :)
[05:36] <intelikey> most ?
[05:36] <dr_willis> well theres the kick-bots. :)
[05:36] <SmurfSlayer> I tried the new user, and it doesn't work.  Also, I noticed that gaim can't connect either?
[05:37] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  sounds like youve shown its not just browser setting then.
[05:37] <SmurfSlayer> Any idea on what to try next?
[05:37] <dr_willis> try a simple 'ping google.com' from the terminal
[05:37] <SmurfSlayer> I've looked at the network settings, and the IP and gateway all look good.
[05:37] <dr_willis> ping google.com
[05:37] <dr_willis> PING google.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data.
[05:37] <SmurfSlayer> Yes, that works.
[05:37] <dr_willis> then try a ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:38] <dr_willis> wait a sec.. it saw google.com ?
[05:38] <ritztech> how would you do a rdp sharing in kub
[05:38] <ritztech> kde
[05:38] <dr_willis> Now thats getting weird....
[05:38] <SmurfSlayer> Dr_willis - yet it works... ttl-224, time is around 75ms
[05:38] <dr_willis> the google.com ping and the ip# ping works?
[05:38] <dr_willis> try putting google.com in your browser address then?
[05:38] <dr_willis> http://google.com
[05:39] <SmurfSlayer> The IP based ping works too.
[05:39] <jhutchins_lt> ritztech: krdp - which is a really stupid idea.
[05:39] <SmurfSlayer> That doesn't work.
[05:39] <ritztech> ? y
[05:39] <ritztech> is it slow
[05:39] <SmurfSlayer> It works in Konq. but not in FireFox.
[05:40] <ritztech> im at work want to be able to remote in
[05:40] <intelikey> well i'm out in 20 minutes, guess i better start shutting down.  later fellas
[05:40] <SmurfSlayer> 64 bytes from <IP_ADDRESS>: icmp_seq=3 ttl=244 time=90.3 ms
[05:40] <jhutchins_lt> ritztech: ssh
[05:41] <SmurfSlayer> What else besides firefox has good Java support?
[05:41] <ritztech> haha
[05:42] <hitmanWilly> SmurfSlayer: konq seems to work pretty well with it
[05:42] <SmurfSlayer> The url I want to use, doesn't work right.  :-(
[05:42] <hitmanWilly> SmurfSlayer: is it enabled?
[05:43] <SmurfSlayer> Yes
[05:43] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  google.com works in Konqueror. but not firefox?
[05:43] <SmurfSlayer> Yes
[05:43] <dr_willis> All righty...
[05:43] <dr_willis> as a test .. close firefox.
[05:43] <SmurfSlayer> Yes to both Hitman willy and dr_willis
[05:43] <hero> ritztech: try vnc. or nxserver.
[05:43] <SmurfSlayer> Closed
[05:44] <dr_willis> MOVE the .mozilla directory  to somthing like .mozilla.old
[05:44] <dr_willis> and restart firefox
[05:44] <SmurfSlayer> dr_willis - where is it?
[05:44] <dr_willis> users home dir. :)
[05:44] <dr_willis> mv .mozilla .mozilla_old
[05:44] <dr_willis> or similer.
[05:45] <SmurfSlayer> All that is in my users home directory is some Ruby stuff I put there...
[05:45] <SmurfSlayer> Unless it is hidden?
[05:46] <SmurfSlayer> Okay.. .found it, changed it to .mozilla_old
[05:46] <dr_willis> .whatever  is a hidden dir. :)
[05:46] <SmurfSlayer> Okay, it is changed.
[05:46] <dr_willis> if this dont fix it.. not sure what to try next.
[05:46] <iZen> whats up peeps
[05:46] <dr_willis> now run firefox from the terminal, see if ya get any error/info messages
[05:47] <SmurfSlayer> I just opened it through the windows menu, and it works!
[05:47] <dr_willis> if all else fails try  in konqueror --->   http://www.opera.com/download/get.pl?id=29341&location=201&nothanks=yes&sub=marine
[05:47] <SmurfSlayer> You are my hero!  :-)
[05:47] <dr_willis> :) and install opers
[05:47] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  now what is NOT making sence..is that the new user you made.. should of worked
[05:47] <iZen> I have a question for someone out there.... How do I install themes in Kubuntu? I have downloaded some from KDE-look.org and they are zipped. What is the process from there?
[05:47] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  unless some how the new user got some messed up firefox settings
[05:48] <SmurfSlayer> That could be.  I got in to google right away.  But the site I want to get to doesn't seem to be working... ack!
[05:49] <dr_willis> what site?
[05:49] <dr_willis> and it better not have 'goat' in the address. :)
[05:49] <iZen> lol
[05:50] <iZen> afrogoathookers.com
[05:50] <iZen> so anyways.... anyone know how to install themes?
[05:50] <dr_willis> themes for what.
[05:51] <iZen> for the interface
[05:51] <dr_willis> KDe's got a rather complex 'theming' setup
[05:51] <iZen> yeah I could tell
[05:51] <dr_willis> a 'theme' is a set of 'parts' the icon theme, the window decoration, the widget set....
[05:51] <dr_willis> a theme file itself is just directions  as to what parts to use
[05:51] <dr_willis> :)
[05:51] <iZen> i got some decorations I believe
[05:51] <dr_willis> normally they got to be compiled/installed.
[05:51] <SmurfSlayer> Dr_willis it is working now!  Thank you VERY VERY Much!
[05:51] <hero> heh, i'm beginning to regret this nick
[05:51] <dr_willis> There are a great many themes/extras in the repos not installed by default
[05:51] <iZen> do i just put them into the same directories as the other buttons and stuff or can it be packaged
[05:52] <dr_willis> iZen,  window decorations are normally COMPILED like any other program.
[05:52] <TuxOtaku> how do i force packages to install with apt?
[05:52] <dr_willis> !apt
[05:52] <ubotu> APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:52] <iZen> ok
[05:52] <dr_willis> TuxOtaku,  --force (i think)
[05:52] <iZen> if they are zipped?
[05:52] <iZen> extract the folder and then run what code in terminal?
[05:52] <hero> the *only* thing i don't like about konqueror is that i can't right-click in the address window and copy link. i have to select all, copy
[05:53] <SmurfSlayer> Dr_willis it is working now!  Thank you VERY VERY Much!
[05:53] <dr_willis> you want it to 'auto select all' ?
[05:53] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  :)
[05:53] <hero> why not?
[05:53] <dr_willis> hero,  i HATE how windows DOES that. :)
[05:53] <dr_willis> i rarely if ever want to select it all. i want to select the typo i did
[05:53] <hero> well, it works in firefox
[05:53] <dr_willis> :)
[05:53] <dr_willis> its changeable in firefox. :)
[05:53] <hero> just a small feature request, i guess
[05:54] <dr_willis> vista does it worse  heh.
[05:54] <iZen> i hate alot about windows thats why im trying to get this down. to bad my 3d programs are hard to install
[05:54] <Macrosoft> hero: any luck getting that to automount?
[05:54] <hero> just to right-click and "copy link location" would be sweet, in konqueror
[05:54] <dr_willis> click 3 times fast to select the word.. :)
[05:54] <hero> Macrosoft: we are in business. see above for thanks and praise.
[05:58] <hero> what's the K app for burning cds?
[05:58] <dr_willis> k3b
[05:59] <iZen> Dr., do you have any links to a website for compiling themes?
[05:59] <hero> thanks
[05:59] <iZen> I have not found any good ones through google yet
[05:59] <dr_willis> iZen,  not really. kde-look.org may hae some docs..
[05:59] <dr_willis> there used to be one from the bot
[05:59] <dr_willis> !kdetheme
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kdetheme - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <dr_willis> !themes
[05:59] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[05:59] <dr_willis> there we go
[05:59] <dr_willis> ./configure && make && make isntall
[05:59] <dr_willis> is the normal 3 step
[06:00] <dr_willis> however - you may need to add some options to the ./configure part.
[06:00] <iZen> i cannot get .configure to do it
[06:00] <dr_willis> and of course you willneed to install build-essential and a lot of stuff
[06:00] <iZen> oh ok
[06:00] <iZen> thats why then
[06:00] <dr_willis> to actually be able to compile things.
[06:00] <dr_willis> thats proberly 100+mb of downloads there.
[06:00] <dr_willis> :)
[06:00] <iZen> ive tried to do the configure command but it doesnt work
[06:01] <iZen> any place that will tell me what files i need to compile?
[06:01] <iZen> i know i can just check them off in Synaptic
[06:01] <dr_willis> !be
[06:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about be - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:01] <dr_willis> !build-essential
[06:01] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[06:02] <dr_willis> build-essential  is the core one
[06:02] <dr_willis> then a bunch of kde developer files. :)
[06:02] <dr_willis> I just do shotgun installs of anything with dev in the name. till it works
[06:02] <iZen> k ty
[06:02] <hero> so apparently, k3b doesn't rip mp3 to wav.
[06:02] <hero> how useless is that?
[06:02] <hero> :P
[06:03] <iZen> why would u want wav
[06:03] <dr_willis> it can with the right packages installed
[06:03] <dr_willis> but mp3 to wav - wouldent be k3b's task anyway
[06:03] <dr_willis> cd to mp3 - i hear it can do.
[06:03] <hero> if it makes audio cds, it should be able to rip
[06:04] <hero> using 2 programs for that is unnecessary
[06:04] <iZen> some programs do it better then others though.
[06:04] <dr_willis> k3b CAN rip cd's to mp3's
[06:04] <dr_willis> if you have the right packages  installed
[06:04] <fyrmedic> are the breezy repositories still active?
[06:05] <hero> dr_willis: i have libmad0 and libmad0-dev installed
[06:05] <dr_willis> You asked about ripping mp3 to wav.. thats not ripping. :)
[06:05] <dr_willis> !find k3b
[06:05] <ubotu> Found: k3b, k3b-i18n, libk3b-dev, libk3b2, libk3b2-mp3
[06:05] <hero> oh, what is it then?
[06:05] <hero> ah, thank you
[06:05] <K-Ryan> !k3b
[06:05] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[06:05] <iZen> are there any hotkeys for a terminal window
[06:05] <dr_willis> that wouldbe converting mp3 to a wav. :)
[06:05] <dr_willis> reencoding it.
[06:05] <dr_willis> do you 'rip' gif to jpg?
[06:05] <dr_willis> :)
[06:05] <hero> dunno
[06:06] <hero> so wav-->mp3=rip?
[06:06] <hero> you sure about that?
[06:06] <dr_willis> No.. putting a CDrom in the drive  and converting the tracks to mp3 is 'ripping' the cd to mp3
[06:06] <dr_willis> or ripping it to wav's :)
[06:07] <dr_willis> or to flac.. (whats what iuse)
[06:07] <dr_willis> then i convert the flac to mp3
[06:07] <dr_willis> rip = 'getting the data from the disk to the pc' :) i guess...
[06:07] <hero> so is flac better than ogg?
[06:07] <hitmanWilly> hero: no compression on flac
[06:08] <dr_willis> its larger. and not lossy i think
[06:08] <dr_willis> or is it lossy? i forget
[06:08] <hitmanWilly> lossless
[06:08] <SmurfSlayer> dr_willis - Firefox can't seem to find it's "home" for pluggins... The scanner just keeps scanning acroos the screen...
[06:08] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  odd...
[06:09] <dr_willis> i always found the term 'lossless' odd.. :)
[06:09] <iqag> hero: flac is ogg
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> vorbis (the audio format of .ogg files) is a lossy format, but seems (at least to me) to have a higher quality than mp3 at similar bitrates
[06:09] <dr_willis> flac is a lossless ogg format then?
[06:09] <hitmanWilly> ogg is just the container, like avi
[06:10] <iqag> ogg includes flac (lossless), vorbis (lossy), theora (video), speex (speech)
[06:10] <iZen> Dr, kde-devel in synaptic will get you the basics and so will sudo apt-get install build-essential
[06:10] <iZen> just so yah know if you wanted to know...
[06:11] <dr_willis> I normally keep a script from my other installs that bulk-install  the stuff :)
[06:11] <dr_willis> I gotta work on that apt-caching server someday
[06:11] <dr_willis> save me some time
[06:12] <SmurfSlayer> dr_willis - It appears to be the pluggin installer that is the problem.  Now nothing works again...
[06:12] <hero> so there is no .flac
[06:12] <hero> only .ogg
[06:13] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  you tried to install some plugins?
[06:14] <SmurfSlayer> Dr_willis - yes, I go to the page I want to be at.  It says I need a pluggin, so click on install pluggin.  And then the "scanner bar" just scrolls across that new window forever, nothing ever happens.
[06:14] <fyrmedic> Where can I find a list of packages in the server version of ubuntu?
[06:14] <pyrotix_> making an html document in quanta: table is being rendered at the middle of a page as opposed to the top. How do I move it to the top, or what channel would I go to have a better chance of getting an answer?
[06:15] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  DONT let the browser install plugins that way.
[06:15] <iZen> does Kubuntu recognize touchpads in the mouse options because the trackpad click is being really touchy and id like to turn it off.
[06:15] <dr_willis> install the stuff system wide, with the repository/package manager
[06:15] <dr_willis> iZen,  is it a synaptic touchpad?
[06:15] <dr_willis> !info ksynaptic
[06:15] <ubotu> Package ksynaptic does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:15] <dr_willis> Hmm  how do ya spell that
[06:16] <iZen> its a Sony Vaio Laptop
[06:16] <dr_willis> !find synap
[06:16] <ubotu> Found: synaptic, xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, gsynaptics, ksynaptics, libsynaptics-dev (and 3 others)
[06:16] <dr_willis> iZen,  yes.. but theres differnet brans/kinds of touchpads. :)
[06:16] <SmurfSlayer> dr_willis - how do I do that?
[06:16] <dr_willis> !info ksynaptics
[06:16] <ubotu> ksynaptics: Synaptics TouchPad configuration tool for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.1-2ubuntu1 (feisty), package size 209 kB, installed size 1012 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc sparc)
[06:16] <iZen> I have no clue... I wish I built it but I didnt
[06:16] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  depends on the plugin
[06:17] <dr_willis> iZen,  could install ksynaptics and let it do some tweaking/settings.
[06:17] <dr_willis> most laptops ive see are synaptic brand touchpads
[06:17] <iZen> cool ty for the info again
[06:18] <SmurfSlayer> dr_willis - Java.
[06:18] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  you definiatly DONT want to let the browser install that
[06:18] <dr_willis> !java
[06:18] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[06:18] <dr_willis> install    sun-java6-jre
[06:18] <dr_willis> :)
[06:19] <dr_willis> !flash
[06:19] <ubotu> To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[06:19] <dr_willis> what else is there.. java and flash - thats about it
[06:20] <Darkkish_Box> where is the kate executable located?
[06:21] <hitmanWilly> Darkkish_Box: probably either /usr/bin/ or /usr/local/bin
[06:22] <Darkkish_Box> thanks
[06:24] <Art_> Anyone have experience with Ubuntu-Ultimate?
[06:26] <hitmanWilly> Art_: what's the problem?
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> Art_: its just edgy with some extra software, right?
[06:27] <hitmanWilly> ok.....
[06:28] <SmurfSlayer> My adpet died... how do I kill it, I can't start a new one.
[06:28] <hitmanWilly> !adeptfix
[06:28] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:30] <hitmanWilly> SmurfSlayer: it probably won't start due to dpkg being locked
[06:31] <SmurfSlayer> Yeah, I did the install for the sun java, and it says it has not route to host for a whole bunch of them...
[06:31] <hitmanWilly> SmurfSlayer: try with apt-get in konsole
[06:31] <dr_willis> some servers are down it seems lately
[06:31] <SmurfSlayer> That is what I did hitmanwilly, from the konsole...
[06:32] <hitmanWilly> SmurfSlayer: ok, servers are just probably down
[06:32] <SmurfSlayer> And the actual adept manager has beening waiting a long time for "headers"... so I'm thinking something is dead somewhere...
[06:33] <SmurfSlayer> And I wonder if that is what is causing Firefox to not be able to find its pluggins.
[06:34] <SmurfSlayer> And then after awhile it just crashes...
[06:34] <khaije1bb> what's the chan for compiz/beryl stuff?
[06:35] <K-Ryan> #ubuntu-effects
[06:36] <SmurfSlayer> Hitmanwilly?
[06:36] <SmurfSlayer> dr_willis?
[06:37] <hitmanWilly> SmurfSlayer: you rang?
[06:37] <SmurfSlayer> Looks like the lag is getting bad...  I thought I lost everyone there for a minute!
[06:38] <hitmanWilly> SmurfSlayer: nah, i just stepped afk for a minute
[06:38] <SmurfSlayer> Oh!  okay...
[06:38] <SmurfSlayer> Well, I will keep all the information that you and Dr Willis gave me for the flash and Java, and try it again at a later time when maybe the servers will be up.
[06:38] <SmurfSlayer> Thanks for the help guys!
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> SmurfSlayer: yeah, probably a good idea
[06:39] <dr_willis> SmurfSlayer,  thers a lot of dead/slow servers right now.. not sure whats going on.
[06:39] <dr_willis> too many kids downloading the spiderman movie perhaps
[06:39] <hitmanWilly> massive updating/maintainance maybe?
[06:40] <dr_willis> just saw a few updates today
[06:40] <dr_willis> not many lately
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> dr_willis: maybe an apache update?
[06:40] <dr_willis> Not sure. :)
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> that'd do it, probably
[06:40] <dr_willis> ive learned to have patience
[06:40] <dr_willis> IP <IP_ADDRESS> is blacklisted. Connection denied.
[06:40] <hitmanWilly> well, the gentoo servers are running pretty good, at least :P
[06:41] <dr_willis> Hmm.. now how is ip <IP_ADDRESS>.0 trying to get a torrent
[06:41] <dr_willis> :)
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> lol
[06:41] <dr_willis> oh wait <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:41] <dr_willis> :)
[06:41] <hitmanWilly> yeah, got that, not completely network illiterate :P
[06:42] <dr_willis> "want a fast quake server? try 'server <IP_ADDRESS>'
[06:42] <hitmanWilly> rofl
[06:42] <dr_willis> "wow thats a low ping server! but its always empty!"
[06:42] <dr_willis> :)
[06:42] <dr_willis> the good old days!
[06:42] <khaije1bb> or ::1
[06:42] <dr_willis> this was way befor ipv6 :)
[06:43] <dr_willis> well night all.
[06:43] <dr_willis> exit
[06:43] <dr_willis> it is late at night.. somewhere..
[06:43] <dr_willis> HERE even! :)
[06:43] <khaije1bb> sorry I was looking back on the recent future again!
[06:49] <Macrosoft> is there an estimate for when KDE4 will be released
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> mid october
[06:49] <hitmanWilly> IIRC
[06:49] <Macrosoft> ok
[06:50] <phoenixz> Hi there, I just installed kubuntu and I want to use apache, which I also installed but.. where is the base directory?! Where can I place a site??
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> phoenixz: i thinks its /var/www/ iirc
[06:51] <hitmanWilly> phoenixz: or /etc/www/ or something like that
[06:51] <phoenixz> hitmanWilly, well, directly in /var/www? not /var/www/html ?
[06:51] <phoenixz> hitmanWilly, There is /var/www yeah
[06:52] <hitmanWilly> phoenixz: not really sure, never really played with it myself :P
[06:52] <K-Ryan> !xorg
[06:52] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:52] <hitmanWilly> phoenixz: try googling for apache tutorials
[06:54] <K-Ryan> Where is xorg.conf?
[06:54] <hitmanWilly> K-Ryan: /etc/X11
[06:54] <K-Ryan>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf right?
[06:54] <K-Ryan> Yeah, thought so
[07:01] <K-Ryan> Wow that was a massive
[07:01] <K-Ryan> I don't remember what
[07:01] <K-Ryan> !netsplit
[07:01] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[07:01] <K-Ryan> Yeah! Netsplit!
[07:01] <K-Ryan> A massive netsplit!
[07:02] <ubuntu_> hi guys I have the next problem installing kubuntu feisty : the installation reaches the 87 % but after that it suddently crashes and it doesnt give any error message..... It just closes......
[07:02] <ubuntu_> I choose manual partition and when I click finish it says:
[07:02] <ubuntu_> cluster size is 2k, expected size is 1k
[07:03] <ubuntu_> windows may not like it
[07:03] <ubuntu_> i dont know if that's causing the error....
[07:03] <ubuntu_> so...when the installer crashes if I reboot the computer
[07:04] <ubuntu_> the grub is in form of a shell instead of giving me a list of bootable systems
[07:04] <Kprofthreat> Uh...oh
[07:04] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: yeah, that means grub didn't install all the way
[07:04] <ubuntu_> but if I check the disk....the system is installed.....
[07:04] <SmurfSlayer> It appears the netsplit continues...
[07:04] <ubuntu_> so...can I fix it only installing grub_
[07:04] <ubuntu_> ??
[07:05] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: maybe, depends on how much of the install actually completed
[07:05] <ubuntu_> or...how can I avoid the message: cluster size is 2 k........I mean......how can I fix what is wrong?
[07:05] <ubuntu_> I had the same kubuntu installed before....
[07:06] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: can you boot the system at all?
[07:06] <ubuntu_> I just made bigger the partitions....
[07:06] <ubuntu_> no... :S im in the live cd
[07:06] <ubuntu_> but a week ago it was perfect
[07:06] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: you said grub drops you to a cmd prompt, right?
[07:06] <ubuntu_> exactly
[07:07] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: you can attempt a boot from that
[07:07] <ubuntu_> I already tried that...it says that the kernel must be loaded first
[07:08] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: yeah, you have to tell grub where the kernel is and where the root partition is
[07:09] <hitmanWilly> !grub | ubuntu_
[07:09] <ubotu> ubuntu_: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:09] <ubuntu_> ok.....thanks a lot....and...what about the message of the cluster size_
[07:09] <ubuntu_> ?
[07:10] <hitmanWilly> crap, that tutorial assumes all the config files are still there
[07:10] <ubuntu_> it doesnt make sense for me...since I didnt change the cluster size...just the size of the partition >S
[07:11] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: ok, what partition is your kubuntu one?
[07:12] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: im gonna talk you through a grub reinstall
[07:12] <hitmanWilly> at least lets get that working
[07:12] <ubuntu_>  /dev/sda5
[07:13] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: ok, mount that on /media or somewhere
[07:13] <ubuntu_> it is active now
[07:13] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: ok, go ahead and sudo -i, you're going to want to be root to do this
[07:14] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: then chroot <mountpoint_of_sda5>>
[07:14] <ubuntu_> nice.......... I can-t open the terminal...
[07:14] <ubuntu_> it crashes
[07:14] <hitmanWilly> wtf?
[07:14] <ubuntu_> yep
[07:15] <ubuntu_> well...im gonna try something...
[07:15] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: ok, alt-f2 then xterm
[07:15] <Kprofthreat> Of course not.
[07:15] <ubuntu_> I'll see if the sabayon dvd that I have can fix the problem..... by using the gparted program that it has
[07:15] <hitmanWilly> the live-cd doesn't have xterm?
[07:15] <ubuntu_> do you think is a good idea_
[07:15] <ubuntu_> ?
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> ubuntu_: yeah, gparted seems to work better than its qt cousin from my experience
[07:16] <ubuntu_> no
[07:16] <ubuntu_> ok Ill try that...because im worried about that weird message about the clusters
[07:16] <ubuntu_> thanks a lot
[07:16] <hitmanWilly> np
[07:17] <Darkkish> how do i get a new IP?
[07:17] <hitmanWilly> Darkkish: as far as your actual IP to the world or one on a local network?
[07:18] <hero> does quanta teach you html/css/etc?
[07:18] <hitmanWilly> hero: doubt it, but maybe
[07:19] <juhorner25> Hi all
[07:19] <Darkkish> actual ip
[07:19] <hitmanWilly> Darkkish: that's set up by your ISP, you'll have to talk to them about that
[07:19] <hero> alright.
[07:19] <hero> htmldog it is
[07:20] <juhorner25> Can anybody help me with a GeForce 7800 GS for Kubuntu 7.04?
[07:20] <Darkkish> oh
[07:20] <Darkkish> okay
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> Darkkish: or you may be able to fake it with a proxy server
[07:20] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: whats the prob?
[07:21] <Macrosoft> heh, check this out: "< tmbg_> anyone given thought to using accelerometers from laptops as entropy inputs?
[07:21] <Macrosoft> < tkoskine> "Generating a new encryption key, please shake your computer" ? :)"
[07:21] <tmbg> yes that would be me.
[07:21] <hitmanWilly> lol
[07:21] <juhorner25> Well everything is running great after I installed
[07:21] <Darkkish> hitmanWilly: a proxy would be too slow
[07:21] <juhorner25> The only issue is my video card
[07:21] <Darkkish> i need to change my IP
[07:21] <juhorner25> I go configure it
[07:21] <Darkkish> i think i can do it from my router by releasing it
[07:21] <juhorner25> but it keeps reverting back to vesa
[07:21] <tmbg> I know it's weird but it's still an interesting idea
[07:22] <juhorner25> And I can't figure out how to download the Quake 4 Linux demo to test my card and see if it is working
[07:22] <Macrosoft> its funny too, i would like to have that on my wireless router
[07:22] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: run glxgears, better test platform :P
[07:22] <juhorner25> glxgears?
[07:23] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: its an opengl app designed as a test platform
[07:23] <juhorner25> Oh okay
[07:23] <juhorner25> Can I get that in the package manager?
[07:23] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: ok, how did you install the drivers, via apt or a gui tool
[07:24] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: it comes with opengl :P
[07:24] <juhorner25> For my video card?
[07:24] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: yes
[07:24] <Admiral_Chicago> !nvidia
[07:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:24] <juhorner25> It just detected that I had a GeForce 7 series
[07:24] <juhorner25> but when I click apply
[07:24] <juhorner25> and go back to the display config
[07:24] <juhorner25> It reverts back to vesa
[07:25] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: are you running the config app as root (kdesu)?
[07:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Hello everyone!
[07:25] <juhorner25> This is my first day on Linux lol
[07:25] <juhorner25> I really don't know
[07:25] <juhorner25> I'm sorry
[07:25] <MilhousePunkRock> Does someone happen to know how to use the Intel UPnP tools to debug upnp?
[07:26] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: did it ask for a passwd when you opened it?
[07:26] <Ahmuck> hi, webmail for tbird works prior to installing apache2.  what file do i need to change to allow access for localhost:110 and 25?
[07:26] <juhorner25> I had to click "adminstrator"
[07:26] <Ahmuck> hi, webmail for tbird works prior to installing apache2.  what file do i need to change to allow access for localhost:110 and 25?
[07:26] <juhorner25> Because it said I couldn't change it without being root
[07:26] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: did you install the binary drivers?
[07:27] <juhorner25> I was looking on Nvidia's site to find linux drivers
[07:27] <juhorner25> Just confusing and I didn't want to screw anything up
[07:27] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: ok, i'll walk you through this
[07:27] <juhorner25> I'm looking at this link the other guy gave
[07:27] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: open up a konsole
[07:27] <juhorner25> Okay
[07:27] <juhorner25> Got it
[07:28] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: run this: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:28] <juhorner25> Okay, it did
[07:29] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: now, run this: sudo nvidia-xconfig
[07:29] <juhorner25> Got it
[07:29] <Darkkish> ugh
[07:29] <Darkkish> i did release renew
[07:29] <Darkkish> and my IP is dynamic...
[07:30] <Darkkish> but i still have the same one What the hell?
[07:30] <hitmanWilly> juhorner, now, log out and back in, and it should be working
[07:30] <juhorner25> Okay, how will I know the change?
[07:30] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: you should see the nvidia logo pop up
[07:30] <juhorner25> Oh okay
[07:31] <juhorner25> brb
[07:31] <hitmanWilly> k
[07:31] <hitmanWilly> i know you're supposed to use the gui tools for this now, but the terminal is SO much easier
[07:32] <hero> what goes in a flash drive? the most used things, i mean.
[07:33] <hitmanWilly> Darkkish: the router controls the IPs for the local network, the big server it connects to on the ISP end is what assigns IP addresses
[07:38] <juhorner25> hitmanWilly
[07:38] <juhorner25> It worked
[07:39] <juhorner25> Now I have my sky high resolutions back
[07:39] <juhorner25> :-D
[07:39] <juhorner25> Thanks so much
[07:39] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: :)
[07:40] <juhorner25> The interesting thing is everywhere I looked online it seemed so difficult
[07:40] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: just to run a quick test, try this in a console glxinfo | grep direct
[07:41] <hitmanWilly> it should return direct rendering: Yes
[07:41] <juhorner25> Yep
[07:41] <juhorner25> It did
[07:42] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: ok, you're set to go, then
[07:42] <juhorner25> So you did it in about three commands
[07:42] <juhorner25> Others I see were like a page
[07:42] <juhorner25> I am trying to figure out how to learn these things so I can help others when I get better at it
[07:42] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: most of the tutorials you see have you edit xorg.conf by hand, which usually isn't necessary unless you run into trouble
[07:43] <juhorner25> You need to make those lines a sticky in the forums, that could save a lot of people the trouble
[07:44] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: tne nvidia-xconfig thing doesn't always work for people, plus ubuntu's got a new gui tool for doing it and they're trying to get people to start using that
[07:44] <Ahmuck> hi, webmail for tbird works prior to installing apache2.  what file do i need to change to allow access for localhost:110 and 25?
[07:45] <hitmanWilly> Ahmuck: /etc/hosts.allow maybe?
[07:45] <juhorner25> Oh they do?  I didn't see the gui for it
[07:45] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: its not installed by default on kubuntu
[07:46] <juhorner25> Well I found the Quake 4 Linux demo I want to download but the question is
[07:46] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: its actually a gnome tool
[07:46] <juhorner25> How do I download it?  It keeps opening Kate
[07:46] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: its a shell script, like a batch file, right click and save as
[07:47] <Gunz>  +
[07:48] <hitmanWilly> the browser thinks its a text file
[07:48] <hitmanWilly> which in all actuality it is
[07:49] <Darkkish_Box> blelblblelblerl
[07:49] <Darkkish_Box> does anyone here have comcast?
[07:49] <juhorner25> Oka
[07:49] <juhorner25> I hit save as
[07:49] <Ahmuck> hitmanWilly: can i specify port in the host file ?
[07:49] <juhorner25> quake4-linux-1.0-demo.x86.run
[07:49] <hitmanWilly> Ahmuck: not sure...
[07:50] <hitmanWilly> Ahmuck: you should be able to i would think
[07:50] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: where is it saved?
[07:50] <juhorner25> To my desktop
[07:50] <juhorner25> Wait
[07:50] <juhorner25> It is saved here
[07:51] <juhorner25> home slash juhorner25
[07:51] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: ok, open up a console
[07:51] <juhorner25> ok
[07:51] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: there's gui ways to do all of this, im just more comfortable in a cmd line :)
[07:52] <juhorner25> Why can't they just have an installer lol
[07:52] <Darkkish_Box> lolol
[07:52] <juhorner25> :-p
[07:52] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: that's what this is :)
[07:52] <juhorner25> I mean just by clicking the file I downloaded
[07:53] <juhorner25> I need to learn the cmd lines though
[07:53] <juhorner25> Before I use the GUI too much
[07:53] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: ok, chmod +x quake<tab key>
[07:53] <hitmanWilly> as in hit the tab key
[07:53] <juhorner25> ok
[07:54] <hitmanWilly> tab completion is nice, isn't it :P
[07:54] <juhorner25> lol ok got that
[07:54] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: ok, now ./quake<tab key> should run it
[07:55] <Daisuke-Ido> tab completion.  something i rely on so much i try it in here.  on regular words.  it doesn't work :(
[07:56] <hitmanWilly> Daisuke-Ido: i know, pita XD
[07:56] <Daisuke-Ido> so did you make it to the movie?
[07:56] <hitmanWilly> nah, gonna try tommorrow, or actually tonight now :)
[07:56] <Daisuke-Ido> :D
[07:57] <juhorner25> I don't mean to bother you but what exactly does chmod +x actually mean?
[07:57] <Daisuke-Ido> going again this weekend, and of course i have a date with the order of the phoenix at midnight tomorrow :D
[07:57] <juhorner25> And how do you know that's how to do it?
[07:57] <Daisuke-Ido> juhorner25: chmod is change permissions
[07:57] <Daisuke-Ido> +x means "make executable"
[07:57] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: in linux, executability is actually a file permission
[07:58] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: in nix, file extensions really don't mean anything
[07:59] <Daisuke-Ido> juhorner25: and don't apologize, i assure you most of the people that have been here for a while are thrilled when a new user shows an interest in how and why things work the way they do in linux.
[07:59] <hitmanWilly> yes, its nice when someone in here actually wants to learn
[08:00] <juhorner25> Okay back, I'm writing this down lol
[08:00] <juhorner25> So, if I downloaded Opera, the web browser
[08:00] <hitmanWilly> vice "Just tell me the command!" :P
[08:00] <juhorner25> In order to "install" it after downloading
[08:00] <juhorner25> I need to change the permission
[08:00] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: oh, you don't know about adept yet, do you?
[08:00] <juhorner25> Is that the package managemet?
[08:00] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: a front end to it
[08:01] <juhorner25> Yeah I used it once
[08:01] <MilhousePunkRock> juhorner25: You can get most software you want from apt-get/adept (Kubuntu's packet manager), if you have the right repositories
[08:01] <juhorner25> Just tried to find a small 3d game to test my videocard
[08:01] <juhorner25> So commerical software will not be there right?
[08:01] <MilhousePunkRock> juhorner25: glxgears
[08:02] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: not so much, but there is a commercial repo, for "free as in beer" stuff
[08:02] <corevette> anyone want to help out a fellow digger? ;-)
[08:02] <corevette> http://digg.com/tech_news/69_Tech_Blogs_That_Don_t_Suck
[08:02] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: like opera :)
[08:03] <hitmanWilly> anyway, i need to get some sleep. c'yall later
[08:03] <juhorner25> Like the Quake 4 demo would not be there
[08:03] <juhorner25> Alright, take it easy hitman
[08:03] <juhorner25> Thanks for everything
[08:03] <hitmanWilly> juhorner25: don't think that's in the repos yet
[08:04] <MilhousePunkRock> juhorner25: Try hitman<tab key>
[08:04] <MilhousePunkRock> juhorner25: Because if you type the complete name, the person you adress will see the line highlighted
[08:04] <juhorner25> Oh okay
[08:04] <juhorner25> MilhousePunkRock: Like this?
[08:04] <Macrosoft> it depends on what app you use for irc
[08:05] <pipit> oot : any1 get problem when apt-get ?
[08:05] <MilhousePunkRock> juhorner25: Exactly, in Konversation, I get a little OSD and the line is written in red
[08:05] <juhorner25> MilhousePunkRock: Oh okay, I wondered how you were doing that
[08:06] <Macrosoft> on mine when someone mentions me, the taskbar flashes annoyingly until i bring up that window
[08:06] <MilhousePunkRock> juhorner25: Of course you could completely type the name yourself, but tab completion is much easier
[08:06] <juhorner25> MilhousePunkRock: LoL yeah, no doubt
[08:06] <juhorner25> MilhousePunkRock: Linux has so much depth, I feel like I am always learning something
[08:06] <MilhousePunkRock> Not to forget the orange flashing of the Konversation icon in the system area
[08:06] <juhorner25> MilhousePunkRock: Even doing common tasks
[08:07] <Macrosoft> you dont have to press tab...if you type Macro: <chat here> it still works
[08:07] <MilhousePunkRock> juhorner25: As you said it's your first day, you will learn a lot in the near future
[08:07] <juhorner25> MilhousePunkRock: Yeah, I know I have a long way to go
[08:07] <Macrosoft> you will learn things like this:
[08:08] <Daisuke-Ido> juhorner25: a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step
[08:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Macrosoft: What client are you using? I guess it depends on the highlighting you set up
[08:08] <juhorner25> MilhousePunkRock: It is a lot of fun learning it
[08:08] <juhorner25> MilhousePunkRock: And having a community to learn with is awesome
[08:08] <Daisuke-Ido> i've always seen that as a very apt description of learning linux.
[08:08] <MilhousePunkRock> Back to my initial question, does someone know how to use the Intel UPnp tools?
[08:08] <Macrosoft> im using kopete, in KDE and GNOME