[00:01] <val|> how can i find where/why/how a dpkg configure script is locked up?
[00:01] <daftykins> jongbergs: sudo apt-get remove linux-image-<version here> then after that, sudo apt-get autoremove usually takes out unnecessary headers etc
[00:02] <kwtm_> hello?  netsplit?
[00:02] <nullp0inter> kwtm_: sorry lol
[00:02] <xtjacob> for some reason when i try to install grub to a flash drive with BT4 i get "sed:read error /media/yada yada/grub/device.map input/output error" does anyone know hoe to fix this?
[00:02] <val|> running dpkg --configure -a in gdb, when i break once it freezes it just says "__kernel_vsyscall", no idea what that means.
[00:02] <val|> er, when i backtrace (bt) it.
[00:03] <lyrae> is there a program out there like Cheese, but that allows you to adjust brightness, contrast, etc?
[00:03] <val|> ... i wish i knew why ubuntu embraced broken software like upstart and pulseaudio, they just don't work reliably...
[00:04] <kgs> lyrae, You can do that with Cheese. I did it just now.
[00:04] <lyrae> kgs, ah crap. thank you
[00:04] <lyrae> i see
[00:04] <kgs> Cool
[00:04] <kwtm_> am I still here or do I need to identify myself?
[00:04] <kgs> Yeah, for some reason the default settings are not bright enough.
[00:05] <kwtm_> nullp0inter: Got the answer to your question.  Can you still hear me?
[00:05] <lyrae> what if i skype? i dont think skype has brightness options. is there a program that can fix that?
[00:05] <WAIXEN> hi
[00:06] <WAIXEN> hi
[00:06] <kgs> lyrae, I have no idea... I never use webcams.  How do I shrink a 1.5TB EXT4 partition without it taking all week?
[00:07] <tucemiux> which version of virtualbox will allow me to use usb devices?
[00:07] <jrib> AmateurUser: gparted?
[00:07] <lyrae> kgs, hehe. no prob. still, thanks for the help
[00:07] <AmateurUser> jrib: Won't that take weeks?
[00:07] <jrib> tucemiux: the non-free one on their website
[00:07] <jrib> AmateurUser: shouldn't
[00:07] <tucemiux> jrib, the OSE version?
[00:07] <jrib> tucemiux: no
[00:07] <AmateurUser> jrib: How long do you think it'd take to shrink a 1.5TB EXT4 partition by about 2 GBs?
[00:08] <jrib> AmateurUser: I don't know, but not weeks
[00:08] <kwtm_> nullp0inter: It turns out you CAN use ASCII hex.  So, instead of '>', use '\x3e' etc.
[00:08] <kwtm_> nullp0inter: What was that sequence again?
[00:08] <syn-ack> AmateurUser: SHouldnt take that long at all... maybe a couple minutes
[00:08] <nullp0inter> kwtm_: setTimeout('TINY.box.show("session.php?suid=<?php echo $id; ?>",1,200,200,1,0);', <?php echo $timeLeft; ?>);
[00:08] <AmateurUser> jrib: I remember resizing a 200GB EXT4 partition a while back, and it took hours!
[00:08] <AmateurUser> syn-ack: It took hours last time.
[00:08] <jrib> AmateurUser: I resized ~400gb and it took minutes
[00:09] <syn-ack> Amaranth: I have a 160 here and it only took a couple minutes
[00:09] <AmateurUser> jrib: You shrank it?
[00:09] <tucemiux> jrib, i see, the one released under the PUEL
[00:09] <syn-ack> if it did take that long there's something wrong somewhere in your hardware
[00:09] <jrib> tucemiux: yeah
[00:09] <kgs> AmateurUser, is there any alternative? No. So just do it.
[00:09] <kwtm_> nullp0inter: setTimeout\x28\x27TINY\.box\.show\x28\x22 etc.
[00:09] <kwtm_> Holy net-split-join-split!
[00:10] <lyrae> lol
[00:10] <AmateurUser> kgs: I'm not going to start a process, which could take an extremely long time, and risk losing a lot of my data, which can't be backed up.
[00:10] <jrib> AmateurUser: data that is not backed up is not important data
[00:10] <kgs> Haha
[00:10] <Undertow> wow
[00:10] <syn-ack> jrib: as a matter of fact that's something I call an RGE
[00:10] <indrora> How do I make Java work on karmic?
[00:10] <tucemiux> AmateurUser, it all depends on your hard drive, I partitioned my SATA hard drive with an ntfs partition and the rest for linux within minutes, IDE hard drives have taken quite some time just to format but not as long as in windows
[00:11] <Undertow> what the hell is going on
[00:11] <B3rz3rk3r> whats up Undertow ?
[00:11] <indrora> Undertow, net services going up and down?
[00:11] <syn-ack> jrib: AKA Resume Generating Event
[00:11] <tucemiux> underdog7, netsplit
[00:11] <clement_> hi
[00:11] <tucemiux> !netsplit
[00:11] <AmateurUser> tucemiux: This 1.5TB partition is full of data.
[00:11] <jrib> syn-ack: heh
[00:11] <Undertow> I never have seen freenode split I guess
[00:11] <Supersaiyan_IV> indrora, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-bin
[00:11] <indrora> Supersaiyan_IV, I have java installed.
[00:11] <kgs> data = porn?
[00:11] <maco> kgs: no
[00:11] <Supersaiyan_IV> indrora, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin ← if you want the firefox java plugin
[00:12] <kgs> Damn
[00:12] <Supersaiyan_IV> indrora, is it sdk related?
[00:13] <tucemiux> AmateurUser, if you want to resize the hard drive it can take a very **long** time, if you want to erase the hard drive then it will take a matter of minutes, resizing has always taken a lot of time but I do know that it works, it hasn't crashed on me and ive done it plenty of times, i even restored a partitioned after I deleted it by mistake
[00:13] <Parabola> i havent seen a netsplit since DALnet
[00:13] <Parabola> is DALnet even around anymore?
[00:13] <AbolishSocialism> Yep
[00:13] <AbolishSocialism> I'm on there right now
[00:13] <RAWR> can someone hack habbo.com for me make a account an get 1400coins on it or alot of kewl items on it plz an ty private message me password an name plzzzzz an tyyy can someone hack habbo.com for me make a account an get 1400coins on it or alot of kewl items on it plz an ty private message me password an name plzzzzz an tyyy
[00:13] <RAWR> can someone hack habbo.com for me make a account an get 1400coins on it or alot of kewl items on it plz an ty private message me password an name plzzzzz an tyyy
[00:14] <AmateurUser> tucemiux: I don't have a UPS. :(
[00:14] <Parabola> lol
[00:14] <AmateurUser> tucemiux: If I get a power cut whilst resizing my partition, I'm fucked.
[00:14] <Parabola> AbolishSocialism, wow thats awesome
[00:14] <IdleOne_> !ot > RAWR
[00:14] <Parabola> AbolishSocialism,  i havent been on dalnet since 2004
[00:14] <Parabola> if that late
[00:14] <RAWR> k sori =/ do u kno a hack channel?
[00:14] <RAWR> =/
[00:14] <AbolishSocialism> Parabola, it's never too late
[00:14] <jongbergs> hi, how do i remove old kernels and related files using aptitude?
[00:14] <AbolishSocialism> that place is like a fungus infection
[00:15] <Parabola> haha
[00:15] <IdleOne_> RAWR: ##windows
[00:15] <AbolishSocialism> It just never goes away
[00:15] <Parabola> OWNT
[00:15] <tucemiux> AmateurUser, do you have a lot of data?  you might consider backing it up to servers on the net if it's not sensitive data
[00:15] <Flare183> !ot
[00:15] <kgs> LOL
[00:15] <AmateurUser> tucemiux: It would take months to upload to the net.
[00:15] <Flare183> !netplsit
[00:15] <kgs> sensitive data = porn?
[00:15] <Flare183> !netsplit
[00:15] <Flare183> !ops | kgs move it
[00:15] <Parabola> !queef
[00:15] <Parabola> srsly, no queef entry?
[00:15] <Murphy_55> hi
[00:16] <Parabola> hahaha
[00:16] <Parabola> [00:16] <Tm_T> kgs: please try to behave
[00:16] <Undertow> man
[00:16] <Flare183> !ot | Undertow, Parabola
[00:16] <kgs> Sorry... I don't know why I think this is so funny.
[00:16] <tucemiux> AmateurUser, so do it when you know Mr. Chavez wont be cutting the electricity
[00:16] <tucemiux> kgs, precisely!
[00:16] <AmateurUser> tucemiux: I have tons of films, games and TV shoes unbacked up.
[00:16] <AmateurUser> tucemiux: I have, however, backed up my photographs, music collection and documents. :)
[00:16] <AmateurUser> I lack the capacity to back everything up.
[00:16] <AmateurUser> So unless I get a UPS, I'm not making a swap space.
[00:16] <Murphy_55> cool, this chat works on my palm pre!!
[00:17] <Undertow> off topic?
[00:17] <Undertow> whats off topic about my question
[00:17] <Parabola> everyone should have a UPS
[00:17] <Undertow> I got my nVidia GeForce 9800 working with X11 (i.e., startx works fine), but when I boot, it still keeps getting this white circle ubuntu logo, is that gdm?  Do I need to reconfigure gdm if I changed the video drivers and xorg.conf?
[00:17] <AmateurUser> Parabola: Students struggle to afford them.
[00:17] <Homely_Girl> Greeting brainy ones!!
[00:17] <mneptok> !offtopic | Parabola
[00:17] <leeo> hola
[00:17] <tucemiux> AmateurUser, a UPS or another hard drive to use as back up would do the trick, whatever is cheapest or more convenient for you
[00:17] <Parabola> mneptok,  how is a UPS off topic?
[00:18] <kgs> Haha
[00:18] <Homely_Girl> Is there any software available on Karmic that will allow me to send text msg's from my Three mobile b/band dongle??
[00:18] <AmateurUser> tucemiux: I guess buying more DDR RAM would probably be cheaper.
[00:18] <Homely_Girl> Pleased I got the dongle working.....
[00:18] <mneptok> Parabola: everything elese wo've said is.
[00:18] <leeo> alguien de argentina?
[00:18] <mneptok> *you've
[00:19] <Parabola> right, and someone already warned me, i was confused by the redundancy
[00:19] <Undertow> hah
[00:19] <Undertow> -christel- [Global Notice] Hi all, as you may be aware one of the reasons we're changing ircds is because hyperion attracts bugs like nectar does bees -- the recent splits were caused by software issues which I believe we have ironed out, and hyperion should just about manage to last us these last two weeks. Apologies for the inconvenience and good night!
[00:19] <Parabola> sweet
[00:19] <leeo> alguien que hable español?, necesito una ayuda
[00:19] <Undertow> its funny how they take IRC serious
[00:19] <Homely_Girl> Is there any software available on Karmic that will allow me to send text msg's from my Three mobile b/band dongle??
[00:19] <IdleOne_> !es | leeo
[00:19] <mneptok> !es | leeo
[00:19] <Parabola> Undertow, is your name a TOOL reference?
[00:19] <jeiworth> leeo: /j #ubuntu-mx
[00:19] <Undertow> yes
[00:19] <Parabola> good man :)
[00:20] <lyrae> christel, what?
[00:20] <mneptok> Parabola: and that's on-topic?
[00:20] <Parabola> of course it is
[00:20] <Undertow> a good album
[00:20] <mneptok> Parabola: do i need to tell you again?
[00:20] <Parabola> we are discussing getting audio to play in ubuntu
[00:20] <AmateurUser> tucemiux: It's REALLY annoying when Ubuntu runs out of RAM and doesn't have any swap.
[00:20] <Homely_Girl> I guess no one can answer, ciao
[00:20] <Undertow> I like Flood the best off that album though
[00:20] <Parabola> Undertow,  is helping with my xmms
[00:20] <AmateurUser> tucemiux: Hold on, I know the best solution. I should just create a swap file!
[00:20] <tucemiux> AmateurUser, I was talking about another hard drive,  if you buy another hard drive you can back up your data to that hard drive and repartition the hard drive in your system without any worries
[00:20] <Undertow> I like Aenma the best though
[00:21] <AmateurUser> tucemiux: Yeah, or I could just make a swap file.
[00:21] <Parabola> Undertow,  me too
[00:21] <indrora> Augh, I still cant get java working in SeaMonkey
[00:21] <Undertow> I sorta like that stupid carnival music during intermission then next song comes on its badass
[00:21] <mneptok> !offtopic | Undertow
[00:21] <Undertow> mneptok: chill out yo
[00:21] <AmateurUser> Is Freenode under attack or something?
[00:22] <kgs> We're not allowed to talk about anything other than Linux?
[00:22] <AmateurUser> kgs: Nothing other than Ubuntu.
[00:22] <AmateurUser> kgs: Otherwise, take it to another channel.
[00:22] <tucemiux> kgs, please, that is very distracting, there are users that need the channel to post their questions, this channel is the official channel for ubuntu support
[00:22] <kgs> Ack! I'm going to start my own Ubuntu channel! I'll name it #Ubuntu-OT
[00:22] <soreau> kgs: Specifically, ubuntu
[00:23] <soreau> ! ot | kgs
[00:23] <Riverthief> Sup guys, I was just wondering if anyone here has successfully port forwarded in virtualbox with an ubuntu 9.10 hots. Guest is XP SP3
[00:23] <AmateurUser> kgs: That's fine. Go ahead.
[00:23] <Riverthief> *host
[00:23] <kgs> lol
[00:23] <Flare183> !lol | kgs
[00:23] <mneptok> kgs: actually, it's not fine. #ubuntu* is Ubuntu IRC namespace, and cannot be used except by official channels.
[00:24] <jongbergs> hi, how do i remove old kernels and related files using aptitude?
[00:24] <seryl> Does anyone know of a ruby or python replacement for piwik?
[00:24] <kgs> This is hilarious...
[00:24] <Supersaiyan_IV> jongbergs, sudo apt-get autoremove ?
[00:24] <soreau> kgrandis_: No one is laughing
[00:25] <AmateurUser> soreau: Tab-complete fail.
[00:25] <jrib> jongbergs: just remove the corresponding package, linux-image-whatever
[00:25] <soreau> AmateurUser: This channel = fail
[00:25] <AmateurUser> soreau: Why?
[00:25] <soreau> AmateurUser: FAIL!
[00:26] <tucemiux> jongbergs, if youre using karmic there's a utility called janitor or something like that
[00:26] <jrib> seryl: moinmoin?
[00:26] <raul_> I used the xvidcap to make an video, but I don't know where my video was saved...
[00:26] <Supersaiyan_IV> Anyone experiencing iwlagn kernel panics and or disconnects on 64bit?
[00:26] <tucemiux> jongbergs, computer janitor
[00:26] <seryl> jrib: it's analytics software, not a wiki :)
[00:26] <jrib> seryl: oops
[00:26] <AmateurUser> tucemiux: Don't very old kernels automatically get removed when using update-manager?
[00:26] <soreau> AmateurUser: Nope
[00:27] <AmateurUser> soreau: I could have sworn it did it for me before.
[00:27] <raul_> I made a video with xvidcap... where is the video that I made? I cannot find it...
[00:27] <Riverthief> VMware is available for Ubuntu right?
[00:28] <jrib> Riverthief: yes
[00:28] <soreau> raul_: Did you check the CWD?
[00:28] <kgs> Riverthief, of course. But as far as I know it is not free. I don't believe it is in the package tree.
[00:28] <raul_> soreau: I'm sorry, but I don't what CWD is.
[00:28] <soreau> raul_: Current Working Directory
[00:28] <Riverthief> Ok, ty
[00:29] <raul_> soreau: thanks!
[00:29] <ardchoille> !info vmware-package
[00:29] <Riverthief> Do any of you know how to port forward to VirtualBox? I need port 8000 :P
[00:29] <Supersaiyan_IV> Riverthief, that's a router issue i persume?
[00:29] <onetinsoldier> it's interesting that 'echo $CWD' doesn't show anything though. you have to do 'echo $PWD' :-|
[00:30] <Indy^> I saw a big article on that on the web
[00:30] <calliscope> Riverthief> you can use virtualbox-ose, which is the reps and will build you it's module nicely on each kernel update
[00:30] <evanthia> I'm trying to get the hotkeys to work on my laptop. Isn't the /etc/acpi events working in Karmic?
[00:30] <Riverthief> Yea but I can't seem to forward ports using the NAT thing in VirtualBox :S
[00:31] <evanthia> I mean I have use acpi_listen to get key id but when I correct the ID in the event still nothing happens even after reboot
[00:31]  * _Ovidiu is away: Gone away for now
[00:31] <javatexan> I am trying to do some web development.  I want to use php/ajax/js/etc and I know that I can install LAMPP....the question is, is there an easy way to only allow localhost connections?
[00:32] <Supersaiyan_IV> Riverthief, do it manually, login into your router according to steps on http://portforward.com/ and forward it manually
[00:33] <Riverthief> I already have the ports forwarded, but for some reason it isn't forwarded in my guest OS
[00:33] <Riverthief> Something to do with VirtualBox
[00:33] <onetinsoldier> javatexan: use a firewall. i'm using fwbuilder-3.07 and get the feeling you can do just about anything with it, after learning how to use it of course
[00:33] <Riverthief> and NAT configurations
[00:34] <jrib> Riverthief: did you read the virtualbox documentation?  It explains how to do that and provides an example for ssh
[00:34] <onetinsoldier> javatexan: right now, my macing only allows SSH on localhost after the firewall i made
[00:34] <onetinsoldier> javatexan: machine*
[00:35] <Riverthief> Yes, I read the documentation for my exact version, it shows me a little setting in the NNAT configuration, but it isn't there lol. I have also manually done the "all-version" fix from terminal, but to no avail :S
[00:35] <Riverthief> *NAT
[00:36] <jrib> Riverthief: what are you trying to accomplish?
[00:37] <Riverthief> A home RAT network
[00:37] <javatexan> k...gotcha...thanks.  I think I have ufw installed right now...just didnt want my local machine being pwnd!
[00:37] <javatexan> :)
[00:37] <Riverthief> Sec
[00:37] <Supersaiyan_IV> Riverthief, is this relevant? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=682519
[00:38] <dtcrshr> i need help with this error -  Depende: wine (=1.0.0-1ubuntu4~hardy1) but 1.1.28-1~hardy1 is to be installed
[00:38] <dtcrshr> how can i fix it to install wine-dev ?
[00:40] <ChogyDan> dtcrshr: you could just remove wine, but it is weird that it wants to install wine stable rather than wine daily
[00:40] <dtcrshr> well, actually im using ubuntustudio
[00:41] <dtcrshr> and i need wine to use vst plugins
[00:41] <Mahal> Hi channel!
[00:41] <delfick> hello, does anyone know what could cause this error http://pastebin.com/m7612bb93 ??
[00:41] <dtcrshr> so i can install fst
[00:42] <ChogyDan> dtcrshr: well, it wants to to downgrade your wine, which is unsupported.  So it stops.  If you remove wine, it will just reinstall it.  Im sure there is a way to force it...  Im not sure how to do it with apt though
[00:43] <dtcrshr> hmm good point
[00:43] <poseidon> Anyone know how I could edit a pdf file or convert it to an odf
[00:43] <Mahal> I have some trouble setting up a Karmic laptop for a friend here. I have a router with broken IPv6 support, but after disabling IPv6 with Firefox I get online on web and can ping. But I still cant get any contact with apt-get, synaptic or updates. I tried to set both local and main servers in software sources.Any tips?
[00:43] <maco> poseidon: install openoffice.org-pdfimport
[00:43] <CAPcap_> So when Empathy is open, I don't have a bar for it on my lower panel. This is a problem because it makes it hard to switch to quickly and a real pain to get to if I minimize it. How can I fix this?
[00:43] <ChogyDan> dtcrshr: but maybe you are working with the wrong wine-dev
[00:43] <Riverthief> Well what I need to do is, forward port 8000, which is already forwarded on my host, but doesn't seem to be on my guest. I am making a home RAT network to test a program of my own. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remote_Administration_Tool
[00:44] <Dunkirk> ChogyDan, apt-get install <package>=<version>
[00:44] <ChogyDan> Dunkirk: ah, cool! thanks
[00:44] <dtcrshr> well, removed wine and tryed again - wine-dev:
[00:44] <dtcrshr>   Depende: wine (=1.0.0-1ubuntu4~hardy1) but 1.1.28-1~hardy1 is to be installed
[00:44] <onetinsoldier> use aptitude
[00:45] <Dunkirk> Mahal, Can you go to, say, google.com?
[00:45] <Riverthief> Now what the [articular one I am using does, is it uses a "reverse connection". I have a client on my computer(VM), and need to "listen" on port 8000 for my servers.
[00:46] <onetinsoldier> open up aptitude and search on the package that's giving you trouble(use '/' to start a search). press enter when you have the package highlighted. aptitude will probably show you what the conflict is... in detail
[00:46] <Mahal> Dunkirk: Yes, no problem
[00:46] <pH> hey guys
[00:46] <poseidon> maco, after I install it how do I import the pdf into open office?
[00:46]  * Dunkirk scratches his head.
[00:46] <maco> poseidon: file -> open
[00:46] <CAPcap_> When Empathy is open, I don't have a bar for it on my lower panel. This is a problem because it makes it hard to switch to quickly and a real pain to get to if I minimize it. How can I fix this?
[00:47] <poseidon> maco, oh, just had to restart open office
[00:47] <onetinsoldier> CAPcap: use alt-tab to switch to it?
[00:47] <Mahal> Dunkirk: Can not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), time out
[00:47] <pH> if somone is interested in ruby + notify-osd notifications, please take a look at my lib: http://github.com/pedrofranceschi/notify-osd-ruby
[00:48] <zetheroo> I am trying to use gtk-recordmydesktop but the sound quality is pretty shabby ... I have tried to change the area I am recording to a smaller area and took the video quality down as well .. did not change anything ... anyone have an idea of how to get the audio to flow nicely?
[00:48] <CAPcap_> onetinsoldier, i could do that... i still want a button in my tray though....
[00:48] <onetinsoldier> CAPcap: roger
[00:48] <CAPcap_> Actually i cant
[00:49] <CAPcap_> just tried it, it doesnt come up as something open with alt tab
[00:49] <onetinsoldier> darn
[00:50] <AegNuddel> My hard disk is reporting an error
[00:50] <AegNuddel> I can't remember the correct thing after fsck
[00:50] <gdiz> hello everyone, I want to change permissions to a file hierarchy so that all files are read only and all directories allow for files to be added, but the directories themselves cannot be removed.  Is there a way to do that?
[00:50] <sheena1> trying to make an ubuntu-remix boot USB, but the "Format" button in the GUI doesnt work. help??
[00:50] <ChogyDan> dtcrshr: yeah, I can confirm it is broken.  You should ask the wine people.  Wine-dev is a blank package in the wine repos
[00:50] <Dunkirk> Mahal, Sounds like a name resolution problem. What's in your /etc/resolv.conf?
[00:51] <AegNuddel> So that's what I need to know...
[00:51] <powersource> is my computer 32 or 64 bit? http://pastie.org/780340
[00:51] <mothersofinventi> hello! please, I need help with blender in karmic. it simply crashes, how can I fix it?
[00:51] <Mahal> Ill check
[00:52] <ak5> hello, is there ppa anyone knows of with wine with the acceptex patch ??
[00:52] <Dunkirk> powersource, The one you're already running linux on?
[00:53] <sheena1> trying to make an ubuntu-remix boot USB, but the "Format" button in the GUI doesnt work to format the USB stick. help??
[00:53] <Mahal> Dunkirk: nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> - which is my router
[00:53] <Dunkirk> Mahal: Sounds right, but archive.ubuntu.com ought to come back as something other than <IP_ADDRESS>...
[00:53] <CAPcap_> So can anyone help my with my Empathy problem?
[00:54] <Mahal> Dunkirk: yeah I also though that sounds a bit strange
[00:55] <Dunkirk> Mahal: It's a long shot, but it sounds like your upstream provider's DNS servers aren't resolving ubuntu.com names.
[00:55] <AegNuddel> think I git it
[00:55] <AegNuddel> got
[00:55] <Dunkirk> Mahal: How about this: `dig @<IP_ADDRESS> archive.ubuntu.com'
[00:55] <AegNuddel> nm
[00:56] <Mahal> Dunkirk: hmmm where do you mean to put that? Im quite a newbie.
[00:56] <Dunkirk> Mahal: Open a terminal and paste that.
[00:56] <sheena1> trying to make an ubuntu-remix boot USB, but the "Format" button in the GUI doesnt work to format the USB stick. help??
[00:57] <mazda01> ne1, please help me figure out how to make my usb install completely persistent. changes like /etc/fstab and /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/hostname are not being saved.
[00:57] <Dunkirk> Mahal: It will resolve archive.ubuntu.com to an IP address by OpenDNS servers.
[00:57] <NoCode> What's the command to start the gnome network manager?
[00:57] <NoCode> In Jaunty.
[00:58] <mazda01> NoCode, i think it's nm-applet. well, that will start the network manager applet at least
[00:58] <NoCode> ohh yes it is!
[00:58] <^paradox^> i have a small image thats 336 x 192 pixels, the size of a business card. how do i print it to be that size instead of like twice that size which its doing now?
[00:58] <NoCode> Thanks
[00:58] <mati_croce> hi
[00:59] <Mahal> Dunkirk: 1 server found, got answer, and a list of 5 IPs
[00:59] <mati_croce> do anybody have problems whit audio inputs??
[00:59] <Dunkirk> Mahal: That's good. Use `nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>' in your /etc/resolv.conf and try the update again.
[00:59] <mothersofinventi> anyone has an idea why blender is crashing? I have an output of "blender -d"...
[01:00] <Louiie> Can Sims2 be played on Ubuntu?
[01:00] <Pici> !appdb | Louiie
[01:00] <mazda01> Mahal, you can add this line to your /etc/network/interfaces file.  dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS>    at the end of your interface info.
[01:01] <mazda01> Mahal, but also update your /etc/resolv.conf file also.
[01:01] <mazda01> ne1, please help me figure out how to make my usb install completely persistent. changes like /etc/fstab and /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/hostname are not being saved.
[01:01] <Dunkirk> Mahal: Right. The update to /etc/network/interfaces will only take effect on reboot or a `/etc/init.d/networking restart'
[01:01] <sinster-helix147> any pro users of aircrack that can help me understand it?
[01:02] <mazda01> using a casper-rw image versus doing a full install so that I can save the usb stick from all the read/writes
[01:02] <courpse> Ahh.
[01:02] <courpse> I get: Bus error when ever i try to load vlc.
[01:02] <ChogyDan> mazda01: did you try pendrivelinux.com?
[01:02] <Dunkirk> sinster-helix147: Aircrack is probably a little hard to dissect on IRC. You're better off to ask a specific question, take it to a group for that, or just read their docs.
[01:02] <^paradox^> anyone? how i print my image actual size?
[01:02] <enzo3070> ciao
[01:03] <sinster-helix147> thanks
[01:03] <sheena1> trying to make an ubuntu-remix boot USB, but the "Format" button in the GUI doesnt work to format the USB stick. help??
[01:03] <mazda01> ChogyDan, yeap. that's what I am using. my changes to fstab, interfaces, and hostname are not saved. i know that its probably because the /  filesystem is mounted to ram and it must not get saved back into the casper-rw image
[01:03] <Dunkirk> sheena1: Try running the program that's formatting the stick as `sudo <program'?
[01:03] <sheena1> thanks. i can try that
[01:03] <Louiie> If been told Sims2 doesn't work with Ubuntu, is this true?
[01:04] <^paradox^> i sized it to be 336 x 192 pixels. it should print that size, but its printing much larger
[01:04] <sheena1> Dunkirk: still no response :(
[01:04] <CAPcap_> Louiie, Unless you can get it to run in Wine or another windows emulating program, then you wont be able to uses Sims
[01:04] <psycho_oreos> Louiie, check for winedb for app compatibilities, normally it would be cedegar that would provide support
[01:05] <mothersofinventi> anyone could help me with blender?
[01:05] <Mahal> Dunkirk: Great! update manager got connected. Now, should I add another IP in there for the local norwegian package server, or should that one do?
[01:06] <max1234> is lubuntu gnome?
[01:06] <nils-> just upgraded to karmic, it's pretty amazing, especially the time it took for it to boot
[01:06] <^paradox^> someone must know how to print an image in actual size
[01:06] <Sanleis> nyone woul know why my sshd is closing connection so -> http://pastebin.com/m79676ba5?
[01:06] <Dunkirk> Mahal, that should do it for now, but you should follow mazda01's advice too.
[01:07] <^paradox^> help?
[01:07] <Counterspell> I just installed 9.10 and I'm locked out of root
[01:07] <Counterspell> How do I boot into single user mode?
[01:07] <ak5> Sat Jan 16 02:07:35 CET 2010
[01:07] <Counterspell> there is no Grub menu or option to open a Grub menu
[01:07] <mazda01> Mahal, that will ensure if your resolv.conf gets overwritten, that whenever that interface is used, you'll always use the opendns server
[01:08] <mothersofinventi> help! what's wrong with blender in karmic?
[01:08] <NoCode> Could someone tell me what the name of the gnome sound volume applet is?
[01:08] <CAPcap_> I need some help here with an issue I'm having with empathy. When the chat client is open, my contacts list (the main window of the program) doesnt have a button in my lower panel/tray. This causes me not to be able to switch to it quickly because i have to min all other open programs to get to it. also i cannot use alt tab to get to it. also it means once minimized i have no easy way of getting it back
[01:09] <hattoricaca> moyhersofinvent: runs fine here, whats the problem?
[01:09] <mothersofinventi> it simply crashes. but I use ubuntu studio.
[01:10] <gdiz> does anyone know of an id3 tagger that would do something like this:  get path of .mp3,  e.g. /path/artst/albm/file.mp3 and set comment field of id3 tag to /artst/albm/file.mp3
[01:10] <mothersofinventi> I have the output of "blender -d", may I paste it here? it's short.
[01:10] <userfriendly> hey. i'm trying to install something that needs java. i've set JAVA_HOME in the bashrc file. i've set it in the init.d script. but it's still telling me "Cannot locate Java Home". >.< i'm going bonkers. can someone please help me out?
[01:10] <^paradox^> a hand please? i really need to get this image done
[01:10] <hattoricaca> mothersofinventI: try at your on risk :D
[01:11] <mothersofinventi> Blender 2.49 (sub 2) Build
[01:11] <mothersofinventi> argv[0] = blender-bin
[01:11] <mothersofinventi> argv[1] = -d
[01:11] <mothersofinventi> Compiled with Python version 2.6.4.
[01:11] <mothersofinventi> Checking for installed Python... got it!
[01:11] <mothersofinventi> Color depth r 8 g 8 b 8
[01:11] <FloodBot2> mothersofinventi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:11] <ambossarm> userfriendly: what says "echo $JAVA_HOME"
[01:11] <zetheroo>  I am trying to use gtk-recordmydesktop but the sound quality is pretty shabby ... I have tried to change the area I am recording to a smaller area and took the video quality down as well .. did not change anything ... anyone have an idea of how to get the audio to flow nicely?
[01:11] <kostkon> !paste > mothersofinventi
[01:11] <userfriendly> ambossarm: it says /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun
[01:11] <Mahal> mazda01: dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS> <IP_ADDRESS> - this in one line or am I supposed to split it in two lines?
[01:12] <Swian> anyone run ubuntu on a netbook NOT using the remix?
[01:12] <ambossarm> userfriendly: that means your java_home is set, seems to be another problem
[01:12] <James_-_> Ok I know this is bare bones basics here but I need a little help... I need to create a user and password that can NOT have any root access even with sudo.... I want this so that i can enable SWAT on my new SAMBA file/print server and us the web interface from within my local network to modify smb.conf file..... here is the suggestion from a tutorial " SWAT doesn't encrypt your login password. Because this could be a security concern in
[01:12] <James_-_>  a corporate environment you might want to create a Samba administrator user that has no root privileges "
[01:12] <CAPcap_> ^paradox^ what program are you using?
[01:12] <^paradox^> i have an image thats 336 x 192. it wont print to that size. instead it prints much larger. how can i make it print to business card size which is how big it really is?
[01:12] <userfriendly> yes. it's so set, it's not even funny anymore. >.<
[01:12] <userfriendly> i really can't explain that message.
[01:12] <^paradox^> i tried printing it with gimp larger than actual size
[01:12] <mothersofinventi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/357324/
[01:13] <^paradox^> i tried with gthumb larger than actual size
[01:13] <^paradox^> what do i do?
[01:13] <mazda01> Mahal, this is what my /etc/network/interfaces file looks like.  http://pastebin.com/f75e455e5
[01:13] <hattoricaca> mothersofinventi: i have more output invoking it with -d
[01:14] <CAPcap_> ^paradox^ PM
[01:14] <Mahal> mazda01: Ah I see. Miine only contained auto lo & iface lo inet loopback. Added your line now, thanks
[01:14] <hattoricaca> mothersofinventi: i see, it segfaults
[01:14] <userfriendly> google gives me 3.5 pages of results for that exact message. half of them in spanish or chinese, the other half suggesting various ways of setting JAVA_HOME. i've been through all of them. but the thing is still insisting that it "Cannot locate Java Home" >.<
[01:14] <mothersofinventi> how could I fix it?
[01:15] <hattoricaca> mothersofinventi: you can try reinstalling it, and maybe its deps too
[01:15] <Newky_> userfriendly: sorry i only logged in, are u tryin to install java
[01:15] <mothersofinventi> ok, gonna try.
[01:16] <userfriendly> no, i installed java. i'm trying to run something that requires it.
[01:16] <ambossarm> userfriendly: I never needed JAVA_HOME on this PC and I find no config, but  I think to remember that jvm/java.../bin was the right dir to send and I found PATH=$PATH:/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/jre/bin/ in bashrc, too
[01:16] <hattoricaca> mothersofinventi: be sure to purge the pkgs with --purge
[01:17] <userfriendly> i've also appended the bin dir to PATH, yes. and adding bin to JAVA_HOME doesn't seem to make any difference. :(
[01:17] <James_-_> can what i was asking be done? that is make a user that can't have any root access even with sudo ?
[01:17] <maco> James_-_: yes, simply dont put them in the admin group
[01:18] <ambossarm> james: does this user need a shell? if not, just use an invalid/false shell and you are on the secure side
[01:18] <meddy> wanna add ubuntu on my 80GB PATA HDD , Knowing that I have already win installed on my 640GB SATA drive
[01:18] <maco> James_-_: i believe the user admin setup thingy calls this simpy "desktop user" instead of "administrative user"
[01:18] <James_-_> mace ok using 'useradd' what is the syntax for that
[01:18] <James_-_> this is a non-GUI box
[01:18] <meddy> I tried b but ruined win7 b boot
[01:18] <meddy> Any idea?
[01:18] <adix> Hi. Anyone know stuff about sounds? When i boot to ubuntu and start playing a movie wich has DTS or DD passtrough the sound is great and surround works. but if i watch a video on youtube or play stuff that is not DD or DTS the sound gets broken and i have to reboot to get surround working again..
[01:18] <maco> James_-_: you could just add them as usual then double check in /etc/groups that theyre not on the admin line
[01:18] <hattoricaca> James_-_: if you add with useradd it won't be in admin group by default
[01:18] <James_-_> maco this is Ubuntu Server 9.10 running the latest SAMBA
[01:19] <Dunkirk> meddy: You can edit your /etc/grub/menu.lst file in Ubuntu to add a Windows stanza.
[01:20] <vbteage> May i ask a question regarding Virtualbox, or is this not the place for such?
[01:20] <meddy> Dunkirk: how to edit it specifically?
[01:21] <daftykins> vbteage: #vbox for help i believe
[01:21] <Dunkirk> meddy: I'd open a terminal, and type `nano /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[01:21] <Dunkirk> You can add lines like from here: http://www.tipstrs.com/tip/84/Add-windows-to-grub-menu
[01:21] <vbteage> daftykins-thanks
[01:21] <Dunkirk> meddy: Just add them at the end, and be sure to get the hard drive right.
[01:22] <meddy> Dunkirk: thanx
[01:22] <fiber> hello.... i have a remote computer with a TV card.... right now the cable company just moved to digital TV and I can't watch any stations... is there any way i can make the box simulate a digital box?
[01:22] <Scarra3> Is there a program that I can use for ubuntu that downloads internet tv
[01:22] <Dunkirk> meddy: There's also a tool called `update-grub' that may or may not do this for you.
[01:23] <Dunkirk> fiber: You'll need a digital tuner card now.
[01:23] <userfriendly> also, why is JAVA_HOME set in the init.d script, when it's already an existing environment variable?
[01:23] <userfriendly> isn't that kind of redundant?
[01:23] <fiber> Dunkirk: aw, that's a shame
[01:23] <Dunkirk> fiber: Or, if your cable box has an analog out, you can use it, but then you'll need an infrared repeater to have the computer change the channel like using a remote.
[01:23] <EmLeX> y0
[01:24] <harris> spankin new noob to ubuntu lookin for help with openVPN,cant figure out how to configure.already looked in forums
[01:24] <ambossarm> Does anyone know if ubuntu is planning on updating KVIrc in lucid?
[01:24] <Kurlon> Got a bt of an odd issue, installed nvidia-96, dkms builds a module... but any attempt to load it via modprobe results in 'Module not found' even when I specify a full path?
[01:24] <CAPcap_> I need some help here with an issue I'm having with empathy. When the chat client is open, my contacts list (the main window of the program) doesnt have a button in my lower panel/tray. This causes me not to be able to switch to it quickly because i have to min all other open programs to get to it. also i cannot use alt tab to get to it. also it means once minimized i have no easy way of getting it back
[01:24] <fiber> Dunkirk: right now it goes wall to computer... i think getting a new card would be less hassle... would you recommend any good digital cards with good linux compatibility?  it just needs one coax and one rca input
[01:25] <Dunkirk> fiber: I don't think you can go wrong with Hauppage cards. They're really well supported by Linux and the ivtv drivers.
[01:26] <fiber> Dunkirk: yea, that's what i'm using now... thanks for the tips
[01:28] <gdiz> hello everyone I have a couple samba shares that I am trying to modify so I can put in a create and directory mask...this might be a dumb question, but I set sharing via samba through nautilus but I don't see those shares in the smb.conf...should they not be there?
[01:29] <ChogyDan> CAPcap_: you mean there is no icon at all in your tray?
[01:29] <harris> can i block users in empathy? on my settings on Yahoo I specified that anyone not on my friends list is blocked,yet when I signed in to empathy I got a mssg from someone that was sposed to be blocked
[01:29] <Counterspell> I am trying to mount an smb share that is open to everyone for read access. I am giving the command "mount -v -t cifs //$IP/$SHARE -r -o guest /mnt/windows" the command runs and no error message is produced however the filesystem is not mounted!
[01:29] <mazda01> Mahal, well, it didn't even contain anything about eth0 or wlan0 or anything but lo and the loopback interface? are you using network manager? i don;t use it because i hate it. i just always configure my interfaces file myself
[01:29] <CAPcap_> Correct ChogyDan
[01:30] <EmLeX> yeye
[01:30] <James_-_> before i do this can you all check my syntax ...  useradd -r USERNAME  to create a user not in a admin group WITHOUT a home dir...  then how would i use the passwd command to create a password for that account
[01:30] <ChogyDan> CAPcap_: well, funny thing is that it doesn't even start for me, o well!
[01:31] <ChogyDan> CAPcap_: hey, do any apps iconify to your bar?
[01:31] <EmLeX> xD
[01:31] <Dunkirk> James_-_: sudo passwd <newuser>
[01:31] <EmLeX> yep
[01:31] <EmLeX> yep
[01:32] <devunt> hello
[01:32] <James_-_> Dunkirk thanks... and i guess everything else was fine
[01:32] <devunt> good morning!
[01:32] <userfriendly> and why isn't JAVA_HOME set once i install either the JRE or the JDK?
[01:33] <CAPcap_> ChogyDan everything but empathy
[01:33] <ChogyDan> CAPcap_: you could try adding a notification area to one of your panels, oh, nvm
[01:33] <k> any chinese
[01:34] <ChogyDan> CAPcap_: try pidgin
[01:34] <Guest25380> i install bitdefender
[01:34] <CAPcap_> ok chogydan
[01:34] <Guest25380> but it starts to scan when i start the pc, how can i stop it
[01:35] <Guest25380> can anybody show me a solution
[01:35] <devunt> How can I make
[01:35] <EmLeX> sp whats up?
[01:36] <ambossarm> Guest25380: delete it from /etc/rc2.d/
[01:36] <Dunkirk> ambossarm: update-rc.d?
[01:37] <Guest25380> delete what?
[01:38] <userfriendly> ambossarm: could it be that the package is simply broken?
[01:38] <ambossarm> Dunkirk: no clue what you want to tell me with that, if you mean that rename from S to K would be better, ok.
[01:38] <ambossarm> userfriendly: I even do not know what you are trying to use, sure there could be an error, but not likely
[01:39] <Indy^> was pageant ever get ported for Linux like Putty did?
[01:40] <userfriendly> ambossarm: well... it's cassandra. going by this neat little how-to here: http://dustyreagan.com/installing-cassandra-on-ubuntu-linux/
[01:40] <EmLeX> yeye
[01:43] <spridel> is there a way that i can repartition my drive without data loss, similar to install?
[01:43] <infid> i attached a 500gb external usb hdd to my ubuntu desktop. I can see it in nautilus but how do i access it from the command line?
[01:43] <pretender_> need a avi to iso script that can do bath job eg 5 avi;s one directory
[01:44] <daftykins> infid: type "mount" and see where it's mounted too
[01:44] <userfriendly> weird. simply installed the JRE now, got the current binary from the apache incubator website, and that is working.
[01:45] <jpzhu_> sudo mount to see its location
[01:45] <userfriendly> at least it doesn't throw any errors in my face.
[01:45] <sw5133> hi
[01:45] <ambossarm> userfriendly: seems like the right path would be /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>/jre/
[01:46] <userfriendly> believe me, i've tried that :D
[01:46] <infid> daftykins: thanks
[01:46] <userfriendly> /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>/jre for the JRE, /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-<IP_ADDRESS> for the JDK, /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-<IP_ADDRESS>/bin ... every single even remotely possible path...
[01:47] <ambossarm> userfriendly: if you had no JRE installed, how could you have jre as path? but if it works now - FINE ;)
[01:48] <userfriendly> i did have the JRE installed.
[01:48] <userfriendly> the JRE, the JDK, then both...
[01:48] <userfriendly> none of it worked with the debian package.
[01:48] <userfriendly> now with the current binary, it works just fine.
[01:49] <userfriendly> so i'm guessing the package is borked.
[01:49] <BillaBong-> i have a genius webcam eye 312 and this don't work
[01:49] <ambossarm> you have debian and ubuntu mixed and wonder that something does not work? It should be that they are incompatible due different changes...
[01:50] <userfriendly> please, just look at the URL
[01:50] <userfriendly> http://dustyreagan.com/installing-cassandra-on-ubuntu-linux/
[01:50] <userfriendly> this was supposed to work on ubuntu. :)
[01:55] <cwheeler> does Ubuntu use metacity and if so where do I configure it?
[01:56] <max1234> all the wallpapers I download for lubuntu come up as unknown files, what package can I download to fix this?
[01:57] <FAJ> hi i really need some help;  i used gparted in an old livecd to shrink ext4s, which it couldn't handle, so it shrunk everything, and now I am getting major errors,  i am at an initramfs menu, but it says that it cant mount anything.... is there a way to use initramfs to fix this?  please!
[01:58] <FAJ> hi i really need some help;  i used gparted in an old livecd to shrink ext4s, which it couldn't handle, so it shrunk everything, and now I am getting major errors,  i am at an initramfs menu, but it says that it cant mount anything.... is there a way to use initramfs to fix this?  please!  I am burning a 9.04 livecd as we speak on another computer, to access the things by there...
[02:00] <ChogyDan> max1234: Im guessing lubuntu is in a different chan
[02:00] <ChogyDan> FAJ: you may have lost your data
[02:00] <FAJ> ChogyDan: !!! :|
[02:00] <FAJ> ChogyDan:  how can i check??? just through the other livecd???
[02:01] <ChogyDan> cwheeler: probably gconf somewhere, I would search the web to see if you can find specific examples.
[02:01] <max1234> ChogyDan, I can't find a lubuntu channel with anyone in it. do you know anywhere else I could find help?
[02:02] <ChogyDan> max1234: maybe an lxde specific channel?
[02:03] <ChogyDan> FAJ: Ive no idea, but there are always warning with partitioner errors.  If an error, you can loose everything.  I would bank on the livecd myself
[02:03] <andyl> hello
[02:03] <happy> hi andyl
[02:03] <zekswx> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <zekswx> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <zekswx> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <FloodBot2> zekswx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:03] <qwetbnvaa> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <qwetbnvaa> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <qwetbnvaa> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <kxbp> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <kxbp> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <kxbp> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <FloodBot2> qwetbnvaa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:03] <rwfxnmadv> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <rwfxnmadv> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <rwfxnmadv> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <FloodBot2> kxbp: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:03] <ybtadvsulh> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <ybtadvsulh> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <ybtadvsulh> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <fnzudkeber> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <fnzudkeber> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <fnzudkeber> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <ybtadvsulh> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <axhvbb> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <axhvbb> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <axhvbb> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <fnzudkeber> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <xztakdsb> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <xztakdsb> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <xztakdsb> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <axhvbb> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <xztakdsb> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <bkwefq> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <bkwefq> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <bkwefq> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <fnzudkeber> http://img527.1-imageshack.us/i/sun4n35.jpg ROFL
[02:03] <neil_d> when vlc says that FFMPEG is missing the "MPEG-4 Video" encoder what package should I install?
[02:04] <andyl> what are some modest machine specs for a system that will be used for software development mainly in java and python, and also run a windows Vm from time to time
[02:05] <happy> andyl: you can have a really old machine do everything except the VM
[02:05] <CHC> thats a hell of a lot of klines
[02:05] <happy> what version of windows?
[02:05] <CHC> oh i neglected to look up and see spamming
[02:05] <Flare-Laptop> !feedthetroll
[02:05] <happy> CHC: if they all came from the same source, it is not surprising
[02:05] <CHC> oh :P, i didn't see that either
[02:06] <neil_d> when vlc says that FFMPEG is missing the "MPEG-4 Video" encoder what package should I install?
[02:06] <geitenneuker> high
[02:06] <Flare-Laptop> duckinator: They were everywhere
[02:06] <geitenneuker> i got a segway fault when i start AMSN
[02:06] <blakzet> hi
[02:06] <duckinator> Flare-Laptop: "they"?
[02:06] <Flare-Laptop> duckinator: trolls
[02:06] <Flare-Laptop> >.>
[02:07] <blakzet> someony help me to configure mac keyboard?
[02:07] <duckinator> heh
[02:07] <baddog> spambots, evven
[02:07] <baddog> even*
[02:07] <geitenneuker> mac donalds, mac keyboard?
[02:07] <baddog> McKeyboard
[02:07] <blakzet> apple keyboard
[02:07] <blakzet> ;D
[02:07]  * Flare-Laptop eats the keyboard
[02:07] <Flare-Laptop> Sorry I couldn't resist
[02:07] <blakzet> i want change a function key :(
[02:07] <happy> neil_d: try sudo apt-get install ffmpeg libavcodec-unstripped-51
[02:08] <geitenneuker> ok whats wrong witn your keyboard?
[02:08] <blakzet> i want change cmd key(right) for altgr
[02:08] <happy> neil_d: you here?
[02:10] <geitenneuker> just dissasemble the keyboard, connect the wires of the cmd key to the altgr key
[02:10] <geitenneuker> with a solder iron
[02:10] <neil_d> happy: yes still looking for it.
[02:10] <happy> neil_d: try sudo apt-get install ffmpeg libavcodec-unstripped-51
[02:10] <geitenneuker> or try to find a keyboard remapping tool
[02:10] <blakzet> geitenneuker: i tried with xmodmap and xev
[02:11] <geitenneuker> and?
[02:11] <blakzet> nothing
[02:11] <blakzet> xD
[02:11] <blakzet> cmd key (right) is special
[02:11] <razertek> anyone have trouble getting the proprietary drivers working for ati on lucid?
[02:11] <geitenneuker> it sends some garbage to the 8051
[02:12] <Flare-Laptop> !lucid | razertek
[02:12] <astrojp> I need to put something on my path using a symlink. How do I do this? Specifically, I need to put 'django-admin.py' on my system path.
[02:12] <neil_d> happy: apt-get said "Couldn't find package libavcodec-unstripped-51"
[02:12] <blakzet> if i pulse cmd right, xev dont give me the keycode, but i hold ctrl or alt, or cmd left and after pulse cmd right then xev appear keycode 116....
[02:12] <happy> then just install ffmpeg. It should work
[02:13] <happy> neil_d: ^
[02:13] <neil_d> neil_d: its appears to be libavcodec-unstripped-52
[02:16] <pilif12p> whats the apt-get for Java SE Development Kit 6u18 ?
[02:19] <pilif12p> unusually quiet...
[02:22] <evanandersen> hey does anyone know if it is possible to login to ubuntu with a script? I have an RFID reader that returns a value in a script, is it possible to configure my login to log me in when that value is printed from the script?
[02:23] <undecim> evanandersen: You would need to set up a pam module for that.
[02:23] <evanandersen> okay i research that
[02:23] <evanandersen> ty
[02:24] <undecim> evanandersen: I think there may be a PAM that runs a script, but I'm not sure.
[02:24] <evanandersen> well its actually a program
[02:24] <evanandersen> i compiled it from c+
[02:24] <pilif12p> !package Java SE Development Kit
[02:24] <kostkon> Fetching info for Java...
[02:24] <kostkon> Description not available
[02:24] <kostkon> Debian Unstable:  Not available
[02:24] <kostkon> Debian Testing:   Not available
[02:24] <kostkon> Debian Stable:    Not available
[02:24] <FloodBot3> kostkon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:24] <kostkon> Ubuntu Hardy:     Not available
[02:24] <FAJ> hi i really need some help;  i used gparted in an old livecd to shrink ext4s, which it couldn't handle, so it shrunk everything, and now I am getting major errors,  i am at an initramfs menu, but it says that it cant mount anything.... is there a way to use initramfs to fix this?  please!  I am burning a 9.04 livecd as we speak on another computer, to access the things by there...  I am into the livecd,,,, but i am not able to even mount t
[02:24] <kostkon> pilif12p, you activated one of my scripts
[02:25] <kostkon> i'll fix it
[02:25] <Flannel> kostkon: Please turn that (and any other scripts) off, thanks.
[02:25] <pilif12p> oh
[02:25] <kostkon> Flannel, yeap. no prob
[02:25] <pilif12p> Flannel: do you know the command for packages like that?
[02:25] <protojay> !package
[02:25] <protojay> !package
[02:26] <pilif12p> ah
[02:26] <Flannel> !info sun-java6-sdk | pilif12p
[02:26] <Flannel> oh, bother.
[02:27] <pilif12p> okay
[02:27] <Flannel> oh, right, jdk
[02:27] <Flannel> !info sun-java6-jdk | pilif12p
[02:27] <pilif12p> sun-java6-jre - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files)
[02:27] <pilif12p> ah
[02:28] <FAJ> Flannel: i have some data here from dmesg.... but i can't copy and paste it....
[02:29] <evanandersen> @FAJ you can copy and paste into pastebin? you can select text in terminal then hit shit control c to copy it
[02:29] <FAJ> evanandersen: on a livecd, w/ no internet currently.
[02:30] <FAJ> mainly;  ext4-fs: error loading journal
[02:30] <evanandersen> have a usb?
[02:30] <FAJ> ah.
[02:30] <usr13> evanandersen: Or he can use pastebinit
[02:30] <evanandersen> no internet
[02:30] <FAJ> evanandersen:  i reallllly messed this up....
[02:30] <evanandersen> he has two computers
[02:30] <evanandersen> FAJ copy the text into a text file, copy text file to other comp over usb, pastebin it.
[02:31] <FAJ> evanandersen: right yah.
[02:31] <evanandersen> and your goal is to recover data right?
[02:31] <FAJ> evanandersen:  my goal is to make it work like it was before i stupidly decided to resize ext4 with non ext4 compatible livecd...
[02:32] <evanandersen> so you dont mind wiping it?
[02:32] <userfriendly> heh
[02:32] <GSF1200S> I cannot mount a drive I have no matter what I do
[02:32] <FAJ> evanandersen:  if WORSE comes to worse... :\  i would rather not...
[02:32] <GSF1200S> when I try to mount, it says its already mounted
[02:32] <GSF1200S> when i try to umount, it says it isnt mounted
[02:32] <usr13> GSF1200S: mount
[02:33] <evanandersen> GSF1200S: sudo mount -a
[02:33] <usr13> GSF1200S: mount | pastebinit
[02:33] <GSF1200S> I can hdparm -Tt the drive, but I cant mount it in any directory
[02:33] <GSF1200S> ok
[02:33] <evanandersen> so with a pam module I can bypass typing in my password at the login screen through validation with my RFID script?
[02:34] <osmosis> any tips for getting sound working on a dell studio xps?
[02:34] <nils-> GSF1200S: what kind of filesystem?
[02:34] <GSF1200S> no need to pastebin- it just says it cant mount because /dev/sda1 is already mounted or the directory is busy
[02:34] <FAJ> evanandersen: well flash drive isn't working; but wifi may be otb
[02:34] <GSF1200S> ext3 on the backup /dev/sda1
[02:34] <nils-> GSF1200S: does fsck work?
[02:35] <FAJ> pastebin.com/m2f25368d
[02:35] <FAJ> evanandersen: ^
[02:35] <evanandersen> undecim: so with a pam module i could bypass using a password to login
[02:35] <GSF1200S> nils: nope... device busy, mounted, in use by another program
[02:35] <GSF1200S> umount says its not mounted
[02:35] <GSF1200S> its not even IN fstab
[02:36] <undecim> evanandersen: I don't really know without some googling.
[02:36] <undecim> evanandersen: I just know that pam modules control log in and authentication.
[02:36] <evanandersen> undecim: oh sorry. thought u knew more about the project.
[02:37] <undecim> evanandersen: You would probably get more specific advice from the forums.
[02:37] <evanandersen> undecim: i already did. I'll give it some more time though
[02:38] <GSF1200S> brand new install, and it cant handle a backup drive
[02:38] <GSF1200S> nice
[02:38] <FAJ> evanandersen: ? anything?
[02:38] <evanandersen> FAJ: using google right now
[02:39] <FAJ> evanandersen:
[02:39] <evanandersen> FAJ: it's not looking good.....
[02:39] <FAJ> evanandersen: ok
[02:39] <Guiri> There's no community documentation page for SElinux. I don't know how to administer it. how can I set it up?
[02:39] <evanandersen> FAJ: are you comfortable downloading and compiling software?
[02:39] <FAJ> evanandersen: not particularly but i can
[02:39] <syn-ack> Guiri: why don't you check out apparmor instead as its the default MAC system in use on Ubuntu...
[02:40] <syn-ack> Guiri: if you prefer SElinux though the red hat docs ought to do fairly well...
[02:40] <Guiri> thanks
[02:41] <FAJ> evanandersen:  is there a way to reset the fs type??? b/c it seems like it is trying to load it as ext3....
[02:41] <syn-ack> Guiri: personally I find SElinux to be too much of a pain in the ass... AppArmor is much nicer, imo
[02:41] <evanandersen> FAJ: you're booted onto a live CD with EXT4 support now right?
[02:41] <FAJ> evanandersen: yes
[02:42] <evanandersen> FAJ: EXT3 is forwards compatible with EXT4.. you can upgrade an old EXT3 file system to EXT4. did you do this?
[02:42] <cmwslw> it seems to me like rsync is used a lot more than rdiff-backup
[02:42] <cmwslw> how can you prevent rsync from copying corrupt data and destroying uncorrupt data
[02:42] <syn-ack> Guiri: and to add it off, Many of the former Novell Developers on app armor are now Canonical employees and that particular project is by far more mature on Ubuntu than SEl is
[02:42] <cmwslw> like what happened to m.agno.lia
[02:43] <FAJ> evanandersen: yes, originally; and then i used an ibex disk to try and get the shrink/expand the ext4 fs....  it shrunk /  but then only errors; /home was not touched,,, so maybe luck there.
[02:43] <Guiri> Thanks. I haven't looked into it but I'll read the community docs on it
[02:43] <evanandersen> FAJ: ouch... never had any problems with gparted before
[02:43] <evanandersen> FAJ: this may help
[02:43] <evanandersen> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1188782&page=2
[02:43] <evanandersen> oops
[02:44] <evanandersen> FAJ: go to page 1
[02:44] <FAJ> evanandersen:  well the main problem was that i was trying to play with the ext4 fs on a gparted livecd that did not know ext4
[02:44] <FAJ> so maybe if i try to like retell it it is ext4....
[02:45] <evanandersen> hopefully their is a copy of the superblock that has not been corrupted somewhere in the filesystem that you can restore from
[02:45] <evanandersen> essintially your "book" has lost it's table of contents
[02:45] <FAJ> evanandersen:   how would i find that superblock
[02:46] <FAJ> evanandersen: thanks that makes sense :)  i like that analogy.... now to rewrite the toc?
[02:46] <evanandersen> FAJ: e2fsck -b 32768 -B 4096 /dev/sda1
[02:46] <evanandersen> replace the /dev/sda1 with ur drive path
[02:46] <FAJ> right kk
[02:46] <FAJ> just wanted to make sure those numbers were right.
[02:47] <blendmaster1024> what's the irc channel for ubuntu testing?
[02:47] <FAJ> evanandersen: e2fsck:  Invalid argument while checking ext3 journal for /dev/sda2
[02:47] <FAJ> BUT IT'S EXT4 :\ ?
[02:48] <evanandersen> FAJ: something else is wrong... i wish I could see your screen
[02:48] <evanandersen> FAJ: have you tried fsck?
[02:48] <FAJ> evanandersen:  i can't mount either of the partitions?
[02:48] <syn-ack> You don't mount a part to fsck it
[02:48] <evanandersen> FAJ: fsck doesnt mount partitions
[02:48] <evanandersen> ninja'd
[02:49] <bobbytek2> if you download emails from a http server like hotmail, and it removes them, can you put them back?
[02:49] <FAJ> evanandersen: so how could i tell it to fsck...?
[02:49] <FAJ> evanandersen: normally fsck s have worked for me *crosses fingers***
[02:49] <evanandersen> bobbytek2: check u trash folder
[02:49] <evanandersen> like on hotmail.com
[02:49] <bobbytek2> evanandersen, thanks
[02:49] <FAJ> sudo fsck /dev/sda2:  Invalid argument while reading block 4227072
[02:50] <evanandersen> how long did it go before hitting that/ did anything else print to console?
[02:50] <FAJ> evanandersen:  /dev/sda2:  Invalid argument reading journal superblock
[02:50] <evanandersen> yeah
[02:50] <evanandersen> see the superblock is messed
[02:50] <FAJ> evanandersen: apart from fsck and e2fsck no.
[02:50] <FAJ> fsck.ext4:  Invalid argument while checking ext3 journal for /dev/sda2
[02:50] <FAJ> last line.
[02:50] <bobbytek2> sadness, not there
[02:50] <neil_d> trying to use vlc to capture a webcam (on local computer) :(  I can get video to a mpg/divx file but all attempts to get the audio also has failed.  I am using the Media->Streaming menu item.. can anyone help?
[02:51] <bobbytek2> You think contacting hotmail might help?
[02:51] <syn-ack> haha
[02:51] <syn-ack> bobbytek2: no chance
[02:51] <bobbytek2> :(
[02:51] <FAJ> evanandersen: aahhhh!  but ran fsck on /dev/sda3 (/home) and all is clean; soo  only one system messed!  good to know
[02:51] <FAJ> !
[02:51] <bobbytek2> I have them locally, but I want them on the server :(....
[02:51] <evanandersen> FAJ: yep
[02:52] <evanandersen> FAJ: at this point, if you just need to reinstall your system files
[02:52] <evanandersen> FAJ: unless you've installed a big list of programs, it may be easier to just reinstall. And then you will get a fresh ext4 installation of 9.10 :P
[02:53] <FAJ> evanandersen:  i would rather tryyyy to fix / first?  i know this may be more work, but i would rather try this, to know what is wrong. and i would stick to 9.04; not a big fan of 9.10, running it now... and welll some stuff is messed and i don't wanna dea lit.
[02:53] <evanandersen> bobbytek2: once their gone from hotmail
[02:53] <FAJ> evanandersen:  it's ironic b/c gparted sees the corrupted one as ext4... but just can't act oni t...
[02:54] <evanandersen> bobbytek2: there gone.... so keep them locally.  you could  compress the emails and then send it to yourself as an attachment if you wanted a backup to be on hotmail.com
[02:54] <evanandersen> FAJ: yeah
[02:54] <syn-ack> FAJ: try sudo fsck -r
[02:54] <FAJ> evanandersen:  so how can i force fsck to check it as ext4?  syn-ack ok
[02:55] <FAJ> syn-ack: same error
[02:55] <syn-ack> you don't force it as ext4 since the FS is NO ext4, its 3 merely mounted as 4
[02:55] <syn-ack> rather NOT
[02:55] <bobbytek2> evanandersen, aye, well thanks for the info!
[02:56] <FAJ> syn-ack: but it IS ext4
[02:56] <FAJ> lol
[02:56] <syn-ack> Did you format it as ext4?
[02:56] <syn-ack> or 3?
[02:56] <evanandersen> he upgraded from ext3
[02:56] <evanandersen> to ext4
[02:56] <syn-ack> it's not an upgrade
[02:56] <FAJ> evanandersen:  yes but this was a LONG time ago.
[02:56] <FAJ> idk if that makes a diff?
[02:57] <evanandersen> arent the old files left as they are and new files are written as EXT4?
[02:57] <syn-ack> not a proper one at least... all he did was mount the part as 3 so it is still, in fact a 3
[02:57] <syn-ack> no
[02:57] <evanandersen> idk much about the method
[02:57] <syn-ack> when you "upgrade" all you're doing is using the new driver... you still have the same FS underlying it
[02:57] <FAJ> syn-ack: i followed the tutorial from ubuntu i think to upgrade it.... oh....
[02:58] <evanandersen> http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-upgrade-from-ext3-to-ext4-without-formatting-the-hard-disk/2009/04/21
[02:58] <syn-ack> for you to get a proper ext4 FS reformat it. ;)
[02:58] <evanandersen> thats what i said
[02:58] <syn-ack> aye, and I'm reinforcing it. :D
[02:58] <evanandersen> reinstall the system since you have ur home folder safe anyays
[02:58] <FAJ> ok well right now i would just rather not format anything but to just get it to work :D
[02:58] <syn-ack> FAJ: your chances of getting it to work right now are slim to none
[02:59] <syn-ack> Reformat it, man
[02:59] <lucky> anyone have any experience with ubuntu on the toshiba nb305 ?  how do i get screen brightness and bluetooth working?  and how do i keep it from shutting off the display permanetly if i hit the internal/external monitor key?
[02:59] <syn-ack> FAJ: This is one of the bad parts to using the "upgraded" ext4 FS
[02:59] <FAJ> syn-ack: but /home is still fine... right?  like ok is 10.0 gb enough space for / ?
[03:00] <happy> does anyone know how to disable an upstart program without editing a script in /etc/init? I want to stop kdm from auto booting.
[03:00] <syn-ack> I don't see why not, I use 20 myself but I have a lot of the ubuntu dev tools and such installed
[03:00] <happy> All I have found is what looks like a quick hack
[03:01] <lucky> FAJ: depends how much software you use
[03:01] <lucky> FAJ: i'm something of a major power user and my / is 9 GB used
[03:01] <syn-ack> happy: man update-rc.d
[03:01] <FAJ> syn-ack: i just tried running the steps to upgrade it and then ran fsck... nothing haha
[03:01] <FAJ> darn
[03:02] <happy> syn-ack: it is actually a friend who is having the prob. and that is the first thing he tried
[03:02] <evanandersen> anyways
[03:02] <evanandersen> i gtg bye everyone! thanks for help. hope ur computer gets fixed FAJ
[03:02] <FAJ> syn-ack:  evanandersen:  anything ?
[03:02] <syn-ack> happy: theres also a curses app you can install I think it's called sysvconf or something, you'd have to look it up
[03:02] <happy> syn-ack: I gave him the same response... and all of the forums online have no idea
[03:03] <FAJ> thanks evanandersen
[03:03] <happy> syn-ack: sysv-rc-conf. that was the next thing I told him...
[03:03] <syn-ack> hdh
[03:03] <syn-ack> heh
[03:03] <FAJ> syn-ack:  ok if i format the / and then using gparted expand my /home/ will it all be okay?
[03:03] <happy> syn-ack: I later figured out I can not do it in 9.10. And that scares me :-\
[03:03] <FAJ> syn-ack: is there any way to make it look for hte superblock?
[03:03] <syn-ack> happy: hrm... odd
[03:04] <syn-ack> FAJ: your superblock is toast dude, you need to reinstall
[03:04] <FAJ> grar!!!
[03:04] <FAJ> ok
[03:04] <happy> syn-ack: I want you to try it. Then you will be scared that you can not do that simple thing either. My current way involves adding "and runlevel 5" to the script...
[03:05] <melwtech35> hello, how can i remove the excess virtual terminals that ubuntu has by default? i noticed their not in /etc/event.d/
[03:05] <syn-ack> happy: considering that debian doesnt use rc5 like red hat does duh. :P
[03:05] <TimothyA> anyone here knows where fail2ban keeps its list of banned IP's?
[03:06] <happy> syn-ack: I mean to disable it. I know it does not use rc5, that is the point
[03:06] <psycho_oreos> TimothyA, iptables
[03:06] <syn-ack> happy: debian uses rc2 as its multi-user gfx mode... hell I'd just kill it with service (gdm|kwin) stop
[03:07] <syn-ack> happy: it's temporary but it'd work till the next reboot at least
[03:07] <syn-ack> happy give me a sec, mmkay
[03:07] <happy> syn-ack: the point is to disable it at boot. I know how to stop a service ;-)
[03:07] <TimothyA> psycho_oreos; i didn't have iptables installed
[03:07] <melwtech35> TimothyA, are you sure about that its installed by default
[03:07] <syn-ack> happy:  which is why I said hold up. :P I'm checking lp right now
[03:08] <TimothyA> it wasn't installed
[03:08] <TimothyA> I just installed it 5 minutes ago
[03:08] <happy> syn-ack: lp?
[03:08] <quiche>  rfid
[03:08] <syn-ack> launchpad. :D
[03:08] <psycho_oreos> TimothyA, its installed, you need super user privileges to access it
[03:09] <TimothyA> ....well ,I just installed it 5 minutes ago as before that it wouldn't recognize the command
[03:09] <melwtech35> lol
[03:10] <melwtech35> where does 9.10 Karmic keep its Virtual terminals located? i noticed its not event.d/
[03:10] <Izinucs> How do I change the default paper size in Xsane?
[03:11] <TimothyA> odd, my IP isn't in the logs either...
[03:11] <TimothyA> now why is vsftpd dropping the connection on me on purpose...
[03:11] <happy> syn-ack: have I offically freaked you out? lol
[03:11] <syn-ack> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1305659 < check that out
[03:11] <syn-ack> happy: that is
[03:12] <happy> syn-ack: read it
[03:12] <syn-ack> happy: it should work with kubuntu too afaik..
[03:13] <happy> syn-ack: my hack is the cleanist...
[03:13] <syn-ack> happy: how about this one? http://ubuntu-ky.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1322949
[03:13] <happy> syn-ack: but it still feels too hackish
[03:14] <syn-ack> happy: Welcome to linux. Home of The Classic Hacks(TM)
[03:14] <happy> syn-ack: trust me, I looked... I was doing support the same as you. and those freaked me out
[03:15] <happy> syn-ack: you are repeating exactly what I went through. In the same order...
[03:15] <syn-ack> happy: hrm... Sorry dude.
[03:16] <happy> syn-ack: no problem. Now it is your job to spread the pain to someone else. So they can spread it :-P
[03:16] <melwtech35> ok if anyone wanted to know the answer, 9.10 uses getty, disable excess virtual terminals by editing the config files in /etc/init/tty* put a # infront of the lines
[03:16] <syn-ack> melwtech35: linux has always used gettys
[03:17] <melwtech35> syn-ack, i expected to find the actual tty files in event.d/]
[03:17] <melwtech35> event.d/  *
[03:17] <syn-ack> melwtech35: and actually gettys go all the way back to sysv
[03:17] <melwtech35> cool
[03:17] <ae86-drifter_> hey can someone please tell me where i can find old versions of packages?
[03:17] <melwtech35> i should rephrase it then
[03:18] <melwtech35> disable excess virtual terminals by editing the tty files in /etc/init/ ;}
[03:18] <iflema> ae86-drifter_ http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[03:18] <syn-ack> happy: check this out: did you see this one? http://forum.nginx.org/read.php?26,36202
[03:19] <melwtech35> then reboot and use ps -ef | egrep 'tty[1-6]' to see if you have eradicated this pestilence from your system
[03:19] <ae86-drifter_> iflema, there are no results
[03:19] <syn-ack> melwtech35: you really don't want to go messing with that though since it WILL fsck up your minGetty's as well
[03:19] <syn-ack> which are your X terms
[03:19] <happy> syn-ack: no, but same info
[03:20] <melwtech35> syn-ack, i dont know what minGetty is but i assume X terms are on tty7
[03:20] <melwtech35> only because i press ctrl+alt f7 to get back to it
[03:20] <nils-> melwtech35: well it's X terminals, every time you open a console in X
[03:20] <syn-ack> you assume wrong... X terms are virtual terms in and of them selves
[03:20] <melwtech35> hmm
[03:21] <syn-ack> melwtech35: keep at least 3 of them and you should be fine
[03:21] <syn-ack> getty's that is
[03:21] <trism> happy: instead of runlevel whatever, I believe you can use "never", haven't really had a chance to mess with it yet myself though
[03:21] <melwtech35> well , worst case senario i can just reeddit the tty config files and reboot
[03:21] <happy> trism: how do you specify never?
[03:21] <trism> happy: just like the runlevels, you could throw in an "and never" at the end
[03:22] <happy> trism: no matter what, you need to edit a script. Which automatically clasifies it as a hack.
[03:22] <trism> happy: yeah I agree
[03:22] <nils-> editing a script is a hack?
[03:22] <happy> trism: that is the same hack, just different way of doing it
[03:23] <happy> nils-: inorder to control what boots up?
[03:23] <trism> happy: I do agree with you that start on/stop on should be separate from the scripts themselves
[03:24] <AegNuddel> ok
[03:24] <AegNuddel> swo I know about sudo and al
[03:24] <AegNuddel> all
[03:24] <happy> trism: thanks for the help. I was just freaked out when I had no idea how to do a simple administration task...
[03:24] <AegNuddel> so*
[03:24] <syn-ack> melwtech35: you can also lock certain user's gnome sessions down so they cant exit out of Gnome and to a VT
[03:24] <AegNuddel> but what if I need to access fie folders, and not terminal commands?
[03:25] <melwtech35> syn-ack, this laptop is a single user environment will i still run into that issue?
[03:25] <syn-ack> happy: I'm sorry those pages didn't do it how you wanted but yeah
[03:25] <happy> syn-ack: np.
[03:25] <syn-ack> melwtech35: yeah since you wont be able to generate a tty when you open an Xterm
[03:26] <trism> happy: didn't read all of the links in the discussion, but you can also rename the script to disable it, but then you can't start it manually (it won't run anything that doesn't end in .conf)
[03:26] <ae86-drifter_> iflema, ok i found the package i need, (libpoppler 0.11.0) i uninstalled libpoppler 0.12.0, but it removed all the dependencies, and when i installed libpoppler 0.11.0 it didnt add all the ghostscript printing packages etc
[03:26] <melwtech35> syn-ack, is that each terminal window or is it each instance? (dont know if this makes sense but i only open terminals within a tab)
[03:26] <syn-ack> happy: honestly if you're the only one using the system and no one else has access to the pc there really is no need to disable your getty's and shit l;ike that
[03:27] <syn-ack> each instance is a getty
[03:27] <happy> syn-ack: I am not disabling getty. I like getty
[03:27] <melwtech35> now im confused
[03:27] <ae86-drifter_> theres about 15 packages that it removed and i need them back for printing
[03:27] <melwtech35> heh
[03:27] <syn-ack> happy: wrong nick. :D
[03:27] <happy> syn-ack: I was talking about kdm. getty is my friend
[03:27] <AegNuddel> spa getty
[03:27] <melwtech35> ah now i get it
[03:28] <syn-ack> thats why I usually one help one person at a time since my multitasking skills, even after all these years sucks
[03:28] <syn-ack> only help one person, that is
[03:28] <melwtech35> i admit, i just want to slim down ubuntu so i started googling suggestions
[03:28] <Dracofodder> is there an easy way for me to get and install a newer version of flash than what came down in the repo? (<IP_ADDRESS>)  getting some weird stuff on some websites, and read one blog talking about a beta flash with fixes but I cannot get it to work installing manually.. and that didnt work for me
[03:28] <syn-ack> melwtech35: getty's are the least of your concerns on "sliming down" ubuntu
[03:29] <melwtech35> syn-ack, i read from the top of a page ;P
[03:29] <happy> melwtech35: there is no reason to ever disable getty. It is your friend. Or just there.
[03:29] <AegNuddel> I just need to put some files it says I am not permitted to enter
[03:29] <Zer> Howdy all. On AppArmor, I am having a problem that a program (in complain mode) shows original/path//null-40 ... I am guessing this is from forking?
[03:29] <syn-ack> Zer: sure is
[03:29] <melwtech35> happy, ok i will move onto the next thing....swapiness. lol
[03:30] <AegNuddel> can I "unlock" them somehow
[03:30] <AegNuddel> ?
[03:30] <Zer> How can I make it so AppArmor follows the program through the fork, still recognizing it as the original?
[03:30] <melwtech35> Dracofodder, did you try flash-nonfree
[03:30] <syn-ack> melwtech35: /dev/sda1              19G  4.1G   14G  24% / thats my primary system part. :P
[03:30] <binMonkey> my desktop takes 2 - 3 minutes to shutdown.  what log file do i look at to see what it's sticking on?
[03:30] <melwtech35> syn-ack, im guessing your not using ubuntu
[03:30] <syn-ack> Zer: it does it automatically
[03:30] <Dracofodder> melwtech35: no I did not, I thought the flashplugin-installer uninstalled that one by default.
[03:30] <syn-ack> melwtech35: I am.
[03:31] <melwtech35> Dracofodder, hmm, ive been having issues with flash also but the 64bit version plugin
[03:31] <syn-ack> Zer: you have auditd installed and running?
[03:31] <ae86-drifter_> even though i locked the old poppler version every time i reinstall ghostscript it reinstalled the new poppler
[03:31] <Zer> The profile name has changed to the original//null-40, though. And it is complaining about simple things which <abstractions/base> contain
[03:31] <Zer> auditd? No. I am typing 'less /var/log/messages' :)
[03:31] <melwtech35> syn-ack, do you have a nice wiki for how to effectively slim down ubuntu? =p
[03:31] <Dracofodder> melwtech35: mine is 64bit too.
[03:31] <melwtech35> ahhh
[03:31] <Zer> That said, I am also using it with authbind, which does odd things to library loading
[03:31] <Zer> (at least, I think it does :)
[03:32] <rhamptonii> need help with ubuntu 9.10 getting belkin wireless n usb working
[03:32] <melwtech35> Dracofodder, sometimes i cant click on flash things in firefox! the mouse over activates but it doesnt do anything when i click
[03:32] <syn-ack> Zer: install auditd so it will output your aa mesages there, it makes it a ton easier to read
[03:32] <syn-ack> melwtech35: this is a fairly stock lucid install. ;)
[03:32] <Dracofodder> melwtech35: at least I think it is.  how to tell after its installed. Thats exactly the issues I have been having... and its not all the time, but when it starts I can't get it to do anything
[03:32] <melwtech35> two things i hate on PC: Flash and Java
[03:32] <Zer> syn-ack: I can see them in either case, though :) but, let me go look
[03:32] <syn-ack> Zer: you're still gonna have to give it access to some directories
[03:33] <syn-ack> regardless if they're in your abstractions
[03:33] <melwtech35> Dracofodder, i wish i could help, i haven't been able to solve the issues it gives me, but in firefox config:plugins should let you know whats isntalled
[03:33] <melwtech35> syn-ack, what do you think about editing sysctl to improve performance ?
[03:34] <AegNuddel> is there a way I can make my permissions higher so i can drag and drop files into a folder?
[03:34] <syn-ack> Zer: check out #ubuntu-hardened. thats the more appropriate place for aa talk. :D
[03:34] <Dracofodder> melwtech35: yea, beenthere... sigh.. I stumbled on this site talked about a beta, but coudlnt get it to work http://tuxarena.blogspot.com/2009/12/how-to-install-flash-player-101-beta-2.html
[03:34] <rhamptonii> need help with ubuntu 9.10 getting belkin wireless n usb working
[03:34] <Zer> Hmm, I'll look
[03:34] <syn-ack> melwtech35: you're not gonna gain all that much out of it
[03:34] <Dracofodder> melwtech35: I guess the quest is on now.
[03:34] <melwtech35> i tried the beta it made youtube work but thats about it
[03:34] <melwtech35> syn-ack, swappiness on a 4gb system?
[03:35] <syn-ack> melwtech35: I mean, it's a start but you're not gonna gain nearly what you're hoping for
[03:35] <melwtech35> syn-ack, i guess a long day of googling to gain 1.3% speed ;)
[03:36] <syn-ack> melwtech35: I mean, you have 4 gigs of ram already you're rarely going to touch swap as it unless you're running it as a server
[03:36] <melwtech35> well, i have 2 VB's running constantly
[03:36] <syn-ack> and even then if you're running a server, you're gonna need to run something large like a could SQL instances or something
[03:36] <syn-ack> ah well
[03:36] <rhamptonii> need help with ubuntu 9.10 getting belkin wireless n usb working
[03:37] <melwtech35> syn-ack i see, but does ubuntu know not to touch swap unless it needs it? guessing it does
[03:38] <syn-ack> melwtech35: for the most part, I mean they do use some pretty generic settings, but for what they are they work very well
[03:38] <melwtech35> hmm ok
[03:38] <majorjunk0> need help plz, i just installed ubuntu using the windows installer and it cant finish confirming the install, i get the error "no root file system is defined, please correct this from the partitioning menu". IM me if you can help (im currently running in demo mode)
[03:39] <melwtech35> syn-ack, so on my quest to make ubuntu 9.10 work properly and be a little bit (a lot) slimmer, do you have any pointers on where to start? naturally i dont want to be recompiling the kernel with CPU tweaks and such =P
[03:39] <AegNuddel> majorjunk0, what partition size did you put/
[03:39] <AegNuddel> ?
[03:39] <majorjunk0> 20 gig
[03:39] <AegNuddel> hmm
[03:39] <syn-ack> melwtech35: you shouldnt have to do that anyway
[03:39] <AegNuddel> should be plenty
[03:39] <AegNuddel> I made the mistake of too small once
[03:40] <rhamptonii> need help with ubuntu 9.10 getting belkin wireless n usb working...try3
[03:40] <syn-ack> melwtech35: tweak your swap, that's a good idea now that I know what you're running on it, and look into tweaking your fs ops
[03:40] <ChogyDan> rhamptonii: what guides have you followed so far?
[03:40] <syn-ack> that'll speed you up some... let me think of some other things off the top of my head
[03:41] <syn-ack> well heck I cant think of anything else atm. :|
[03:41] <majorjunk0> aegnuddel, is there a way i can delete ubuntu from from hardrive and try agian using the USB install (im out of CDRs)
[03:41] <nils-> melwtech35: the thing is, it might be smarter to swap out programs for file cache on desktop systems
[03:41] <melwtech35> syn-ack, well i installed 9.10 karmic amd64 on a very recent HP laptop, wondering why it takes even 1 second to open firefox i would have hoped it would take not even a blink, (this is when load is like 8%)
[03:41] <yo2boy> there
[03:41] <nils-> melwtech35: sys.vm.swapiness controls that
[03:42] <ChogyDan> melwtech35: use chrome
[03:42] <syn-ack> OH
[03:42] <melwtech35> nils-, i see
[03:42] <rhamptonii> ChogyDan:  peepingtom had one i found on forum...i could use the adapter just fine before upgrading to 9.10...using ndiswrapper
[03:42] <kinja-sheep> majorjunk0: That will work.
[03:42] <AegNuddel> Does it not have an uninstaller as well?
[03:42] <melwtech35> nils-, individual swap allocation for higher memory apps
[03:42] <ChogyDan> rhamptonii: so ndiswrapper is not working?
[03:42] <syn-ack> melwtech35: and another thing you can tweak is your readahead settings.,... the reason firefox takes a second to load is because the libs wernt precached by readahead
[03:43] <majorjunk0> aegnuddel, i haven't found one (haven
[03:43] <majorjunk0> 't looked to hard either though)
[03:43] <kinja-sheep> majorjunk0: Make an USB installation. When it came down to partitioning the drive, make a new one -- overwrite the old one.
[03:43] <syn-ack> melwtech35: not swap, memory.
[03:43] <melwtech35> ah
[03:43] <nils-> melwtech35: hmm well it depends on the app, apps can set their memory allocations not to be swapped out
[03:43] <rhamptonii> ChogyDan:  no...i get errors such as...rtl819xU:ERR!!! _rtl8192_up(): initialization is failed! from dmesg
[03:43] <majorjunk0> kinja-sheep, how do i make sure i only overwrite my ubuntu partion and not my windows?
[03:43] <melwtech35> ah
[03:44] <melwtech35> !readahead
[03:44] <nils-> syn-ack: hmm don't you mean prelinking?
[03:44] <melwtech35> !prelinking
[03:44] <kinja-sheep> majorjunk0: If you're using LiveCD Desktop CD/USB, you should get the GUI and obvious messages (ie Windows partition or NTFS partition).
[03:44] <syn-ack> nils-: you are correct. prelinking
[03:44] <syn-ack> melwtech35: google for "ubuntu sreadahead"
[03:45] <ae86-drifter_> hey ive got this new laptop and i get this watermark in the bottom right saying AMD - Unsupported hardware, this is after enabling the ATI driver
[03:45] <kinja-sheep> majorjunk0: Linux filesystems are usually in multiple partitions -- ext2,ext3 or ext4, and also swap.
[03:45] <nils-> or just buy an intel x25-m, my box boots in like 3 seconds
[03:45] <ChogyDan> rhamptonii: have you tried...   reinstalling?  I don't know.  I could search google if you give me the device model
[03:45] <melwtech35> syn-ack, will do
[03:45] <majorjunk0> kinja, ok ill try to follow the usb steps
[03:45] <ChogyDan> syn-ack: I thought sreadahead is for boot
[03:45] <melwtech35> nils-, my laptop should be capable of faster boot i feel ubuntu does a lot of helper shit it doesn't really need to
[03:46] <syn-ack> nils-: c2d  64 here and I have it down to about 6 second boot
[03:46] <kinja-sheep> melwtech35: Watch your language. Thanks. :o
[03:46] <syn-ack> ChogyDan: it is.
[03:46] <melwtech35> currently my boot is about 30 seconds
[03:46] <blakkheim> melwtech35: ubuntu isn't exactly the fastest, most optimized distro
[03:46] <syn-ack> well it's readahead anwya
[03:46] <rhamptonii> ChogyDan:  i have try every forum's advice i could find...seems many have same problem...dev from lsusb is "050d:805e Belkin Components"
[03:46] <nils-> melwtech35: that's unacceptable.
[03:46] <melwtech35> blakkheim, heh yeh but i wanted to install something that had lots of support because its a work laptop
[03:46] <nils-> melwtech35: don't know the specs for that laptop though
[03:46] <blakkheim> melwtech35: if you know what you're doing and need the most speed.. gentoo is the way
[03:47] <melwtech35> nils-, tell me about it, it threw me some fstab error after i did the latest update
[03:47] <syn-ack> nils-: and thats from booting from a HDD and not a SSD
[03:47] <nils-> melwtech35: hmm yeah I had that too
[03:47] <syn-ack> blakkheim: thats not true
[03:47] <kinja-sheep> melwtech35: If you need a car analog, there are many fastest cars in the world and yet everybody are buying stock factory cars. :-)
[03:47] <nils-> syn-ack: yeah
[03:47] <melwtech35> blakkheim, i cant afford to spend hours stuffing round with gentoo
[03:47] <blakkheim> syn-ack: oh? what would you recommend then?
[03:47] <nils-> syn-ack: upstart really makes a difference
[03:47] <syn-ack> blakkheim: I use Ubuntu.
[03:47] <melwtech35> kinja-sheep, hehe
[03:47] <blakkheim> syn-ack: lol ok
[03:47] <syn-ack> blakkheim: like I said, I have about a 6 second coldboot
[03:47] <melwtech35> nils-, its a core2duo 2.53ghz 4gigram
[03:48] <rhamptonii> ChogyDan:  i currently have the .inf file that i used before installed via ndiswrapper....rt2870.inf
[03:48] <syn-ack> blakkheim: on a c2d 2 GHz with 2 gigs ram and 100 gig hdd
[03:48] <syn-ack> blakkheim: running Lucid 64, btw
[03:48] <nils-> melwtech35: well I think you need a more analytical approach, meaning that you need to find out what exactly takes long when booting, otherwise you are just optimizing in the microsecond area
[03:49] <syn-ack> exactly
[03:49] <melwtech35> nils-, this is true
[03:49] <syn-ack> Thats where bootchart comes in handy
[03:49] <melwtech35> ahh
[03:49] <melwtech35> ok sounds like i have a lot to do
[03:49] <melwtech35> hehe
[03:49] <melwtech35> syn-ack, sreadahead or readahead
[03:50] <syn-ack> melwtech35: check them both out
[03:50] <kinja-sheep> melwtech35: I don't use swap myself. If anything, you should make swap file instead of partition. Also, I have 2GB and it's using 28% of the memory now.
[03:50] <melwtech35> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-March/027726.html i guess ;.>
[03:50] <syn-ack> sreadahead is for precaching on boot and readahead is caching after boot
[03:50] <Zer> Huh. syn-ack, apparently once all the other errors were out of the way, the odd ones with the null profile went away as well. Very handy, auditd, as well
[03:50] <ae86-drifter_> hey ive got this new laptop and i get this watermark in the bottom right saying AMD - Unsupported hardware, this is after enabling the ATI driver
[03:50] <melwtech35> kinja-sheep, interesting, so turning off swap may be benefitial
[03:50] <syn-ack> Zer: aye. :D
[03:51] <melwtech35> syn-ack, so ill install both ;D
[03:51] <Zer> though, much more useful in auditd -f than as a startup feature :) I can't imagine why anyone would want the latter
[03:51] <syn-ack> melwtech35: Not if you want to hibernate or suspend, you need a swap part
[03:51] <nils-> also under ram pressure kswapd can go nuts if there is no swap to draw from
[03:52] <melwtech35> ah i dont have kswapd is kde i guess
[03:52] <syn-ack> well, if you have a swap file its kswap doesnt care
[03:52] <syn-ack> melwtech35: Kernel swap
[03:52] <melwtech35> ah , i have no idea about that then :(
[03:52] <syn-ack> heh
[03:52] <syn-ack> kswapd is the kernels swap manager
[03:52] <melwtech35> i normally see "K" prefix and freak out thinking its kde4 or something
[03:53] <ae86-drifter_> anyone got the RADEON HD 5650 to work?
[03:53] <melwtech35> alright so, best to limit the swapiness but not to disable it completely
[03:53] <syn-ack> melwtech35: Thats correct
[03:53] <nils-> melwtech35: yeah if you really have issues with swapping swappiness is the thing to look at.
[03:54] <melwtech35> syn-ack, swapiness to 10 instead of 60
[03:54] <AegNuddel> Is there anyway to make the whole session su/
[03:54] <AegNuddel> su?
[03:54] <melwtech35> sudo su maybe
[03:54] <syn-ack> melwtech35: thats a start
[03:54] <kinja-sheep> AegNuddel: sudo -i
[03:54] <rhamptonii> sudo su works
[03:55] <AegNuddel> Will that change the window manager as well
[03:55] <AegNuddel> ?
[03:55] <syn-ack> no
[03:55] <syn-ack> bbl
[03:55] <blakkheim> most ubuntu people tell you never use root, never use su, use gksudo for graphical apps etc
[03:56] <AegNuddel> gksudo?
[03:56] <iflema> !su
[03:56] <melwtech35> AegNuddel, use gksudo for graphical apps
[03:56] <AegNuddel> There's a folder I need to copy data into
[03:56] <AegNuddel> it says so
[03:56] <Tw|sT> !gksudo
[03:56] <AegNuddel> for a game
[03:57] <AegNuddel> but the permissions are locked
[03:57] <kinja-sheep> AegNuddel: "gksudo nautilus" (And be careful). :(
[03:57] <melwtech35> nils-, how did you fix your fstab issue? i checked blkid against fstab and saw no anomolies
[03:57] <melwtech35> anomalies
[03:57] <hapt1K> hi all, whats a good stand alone .flv player ?
[03:58] <kinja-sheep> hapt1K: I don't know if there are a such thing as a standalone FLV player but many video player might have the capability to play it.  Also, any web browser too. :o
[03:58] <nils-> melwtech35: well I forgot to install mdadm but that has nothing to do with your problem probably ;)
[03:59] <ae86-drifter_> hapt1K, flvstreamer
[03:59] <ae86-drifter_> CLI only
[03:59] <melwtech35> ah my issue was DEF after a ubuntu update
[03:59] <hapt1K> kinja-sheep, i was thinking that too, but mplayer is trying to play it in my firefox and vlc seems to be unable to handle it
[03:59] <hapt1K> ae86-drifter_, i will try that, thank you
[03:59] <lollan> hello, I have to work on Windows at work so I need to have a good ssh client, is there only putty ?
[04:00] <kinja-sheep> lollan: putty +1
[04:00] <ae86-drifter_> lollan, puTTY is pretty good
[04:00] <hapt1K> putty is great
[04:00] <nils-> lollan: never heard of another...
[04:00] <ae86-drifter_> why would anyone bother competing ?
[04:01] <redfive> lollan: i supposed you could use cygwin or something, but putty is great in my opinion
[04:01] <kinja-sheep> Advancements toward greater good for mankind.
[04:01] <lollan> ae86-drifter_, kinja-sheep, hapt1k yes I know, just wanted yo check if there was another, it just seem weird that only one is good
[04:01] <ae86-drifter_> lollan,  or you could run a VM and use ssh
[04:01] <maverick140991> if i want to remove the help entry from the xfce start menu should i delete this line? <Filename>xfce4-help.desktop</Filename>
[04:01] <nils-> kinja-sheep++
[04:01] <lollan> ae86-drifter_, I'll probably do that ae86-drifter_  ^^
[04:01] <lollan> thanks !
[04:02] <kinja-sheep> lollan: Perhaps because anybody using Windows OS for life have little or no need for SSH. :'(
[04:02] <ae86-drifter_> could someone help me with this ATI grphics card please :(
[04:02] <ae86-drifter_> hey ive got this new laptop and i get this watermark in the bottom right saying AMD - Unsupported hardware, this is after enabling the ATI driver, i dont even have an AMD processor..
[04:03] <rhamptonii> anyone using a belkin wireless n usb adapter on 9.10?
[04:03] <ae86-drifter_> rhamptonii, what chipset has it got?
[04:03] <melwtech35> teraterm is good aswell but putty is best
[04:03] <jriehle87> how can i create a shortcut that acctualy works
[04:04] <jriehle87> actually*
[04:04] <ae86-drifter_> jriehle87, create launcher?
[04:04] <rhamptonii> ad86-drifter: rtl8192u
[04:04] <jriehle87> so ill google laucher :)
[04:04] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Have you read http://tinyurl.com/hu35m ?
[04:04] <ae86-drifter_> jriehle87, no, right click somewhere and click create launcer
[04:04] <lollan> yep kinja-sheep  I agree except that many companies use, source version system, and less gui version than console
[04:05] <lollan> by example
[04:05] <gsal> first timer, here...need help....updated netbook and now, after a restart I don't see the nice desktop with big icons...just a plain windows with no menus...but when I shut down...the other screen shows up momentarily, as if it was behind this boring one...how can I switch back to it?
[04:05] <jriehle87> ae86-drifter_:  i did that
[04:05] <k0ala> yay got it finally!
[04:05] <jriehle87> ae86-drifter_: and i still recieve no response it spins for a moment, and nothing.
[04:05] <ae86-drifter_> jriehle87, in the 'command' box, type the command u wish to issue...
[04:06] <k0ala> whats the difference between nick password and server password?
[04:06] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep: yes but after the update...  : (  i had it working just fine before upgrade
[04:06] <kinja-sheep> gsal: Screenshot. I wanted to see the illusion of bored desktop.
[04:06] <ae86-drifter_> jriehle87, paste the command for the launcher
[04:06] <jriehle87> ae86-drifter_:  ive made 2 of them , 1 was a shortcut 1 was a copy, copy i came into a problem with it not finding path, i made a shortcut and it spins to nothing :P
[04:06] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep: Worked out-of-the-box in Jaunty, not after update to Karmic
[04:07] <jriehle87> oh in the panel?
[04:07] <gsal> just background and two icons...Home and Trash can.
[04:07] <ae86-drifter_> jriehle87, regardless of in the panel or not
[04:07] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: What make/model?
[04:07] <iflema> gsal whats the model/manu of ya netbook
[04:07] <jriehle87> oh i see
[04:07] <jriehle87> im sorry
[04:07] <jriehle87> i shoulda noticed that on my own, sorry for your time.
[04:08] <rhamptonii> belkin n wireless usb output from lsusb:  050d:805e Belkin Components
[04:08] <jumoit> hey...after creating a git user by the commands of "sudo adduser git" with the --disabled-password option under ubuntu, how should i switch to the user from another?
[04:08] <rhamptonii> model F5D8053
[04:08] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: "lshw -c network"
[04:08] <gsal> ASUS eeepc   1005
[04:09] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:*-network DISABLED
[04:09] <rhamptonii>        description: Wireless interface
[04:09] <rhamptonii>        physical id: 1
[04:09] <rhamptonii>        logical name: wlan0
[04:09] <rhamptonii>        serial: 00:e0:4c:81:92:00
[04:09] <FloodBot3> rhamptonii: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:09] <rhamptonii>        capabilities: ethernet physical wireless
[04:09] <melwtech35> nils-, ok fstab error mysteriously gone...
[04:09] <kinja-sheep> !pastebin | rhamptonii :)
[04:09] <nils-> melwtech35: another problem solved
[04:09] <rhamptonii> my bad
[04:09] <nils-> nils-++
[04:09] <melwtech35> hehe
[04:10] <melwtech35> nils-, still taking a while to boot, i managed to get a bootchart now though
[04:10] <osmosis> can someone help me getting ati proprietary drivers installed?
[04:10] <gsal> when people send me messages, my name show up first in their message...how do I do that?
[04:10] <kinja-sheep> !tab | gsal
[04:10] <jumoit> any ideas on that??
[04:11] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/357369/
[04:11] <gsal> ubottu: thanks...got it
[04:11] <iflema> gsal does it work if you run from a live image? live cd/usb?
[04:11] <nils-> gsal: your irc client alerts you when your name is mentioned, same happens for people you mention
[04:11] <ae86-drifter_> ubottu, you suck
[04:11] <klappi> !turing
[04:11] <k0ala> !ubottu
[04:11] <gsal> iflema: it used to work...but it seems that every time I update, it goes away...eventually it comes back. I think
[04:11] <etfb> Just installed Karmic on a new second-hand desktop.  Resolution is stuck at 800x600.  It worked at 1280x1024 in the live CD.  What do I do to make Jockey find a better driver?
[04:12] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Is that all it is displaying?
[04:12] <gsal> iflema: it is almost as if it had something to do with my wireless...I know it does not make sense but it happens...
[04:13] <ae86-drifter_> after enabling the ATI driver, i get this watermark in the bottom right saying AMD - Unsupported hardware, this is , its a RADEON mobility HD 5650, on a intel core i3
[04:13] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  no there is the eth0 adapter also...only copied the part with wireless...you need to see all?
[04:13] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Yeah. Yes, just paste it all.
[04:14] <k0ala> is it possible to change desktop from gnome to kde without installing kubuntu ?
[04:14] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/357372/
[04:14] <melwtech35> nils-, http://imagebin.org/80098 what do you think
[04:14] <gsal> k0ala: you mean simpy changing your window manager?
[04:14] <ae86-drifter_> k0ala, sudo apt-get install kde-desktop
[04:15] <etfb> k0ala, yeah, I did that when I first started, after I realised how limited Gnome is.  Just install the KDE window manager.
[04:15] <nils-> melwtech35: that I need more screen real estate
[04:15] <ae86-drifter_> gnome limited ???
[04:15] <melwtech35> nils-, heh
[04:15] <ae86-drifter_> how?
[04:15] <k0ala> etfb, i like the gnome manager but i havent seen kde
[04:15] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Oh okay. I was under the impression that you took some chunk out of Wireless Interface.
[04:15] <k0ala> ae86-drifter_, is that all?
[04:15] <etfb> ae86-drifter_, Very.  Lots of decisions are made "at the factory" and you don't get to configure them.
[04:15] <ae86-drifter_> k0ala, yep
[04:15] <katyl> Anyone know how to keep a specific user from showing on the GDM login screen on Karmic?
[04:15] <k0ala> gsal, yes
[04:16] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Belkin USB F5D8053 ?
[04:16] <melwtech35> nils-, i have a lovely image but no knowledge on how to interpret the results
[04:16] <k0ala> thanks people
[04:16] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep: correct
[04:16] <ae86-drifter_> k0ala, then when u login u can choose KDE session and set as default
[04:16] <etfb> k0ala, After you do it, you have to choose your preferred wm at startup.
[04:16] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: You're using ndiswrapper for that one?
[04:16] <etfb> ae86-drifter_, Snap!
[04:16] <nils-> melwtech35: yeah I just realized that a bottle of wine will not help the analysis either
[04:16] <ae86-drifter_> hehe
[04:16] <k0ala> okay
[04:16] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep: correct again
[04:17] <melwtech35> heh nils- dw i wll find someone who has a bigger screen and alcohol limit
[04:17] <etfb> How do I find out if my Intel graphics driver is supported in Karmic?
[04:17] <nils-> melwtech35: good luck ;)
[04:17] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep: rt2870 : driver installed.....
[04:17] <ae86-drifter_> okay so should i assume that this ATI 5650 is unsupported on linux?
[04:17] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Hmm. "ndiswrapper -l" say anything?
[04:17] <melwtech35> ill ask kinja-sheep he\she seems smart; kinja-sheep are you able to help me interpret this and work out why my boot is so slow? http://imagebin.org/80098
[04:18] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep: rt2870 : driver installed
[04:18] <ae86-drifter_> etfb, what card is it?
[04:18] <k0ala> E: Couldn't find package kde-desktop :(
[04:18] <ChogyDan> k0ala: try kubuntu-desktop
[04:18] <ae86-drifter_> k0ala, uhh try apt get install kubuntu :)
[04:18] <etfb> ae86-drifter_, Intel 82945G/GZ
[04:18] <ae86-drifter_> oh yeah.. what ChogyDan said
[04:19] <etfb> ae86-drifter_, Not a very new machine, so you'd expect it would be supported.
[04:19] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: I'm reading it off ndiswrapper-wiki since I had no need for ndiswapper. You did "sudo depmod -a && sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" too ?
[04:19] <ae86-drifter_> etfb,  sounds like an onboard card true?
[04:19] <k0ala> what do u think is the approx size of the download?
[04:19] <etfb> ae86-drifter_, yes.
[04:19] <gsal> I just updated and lost the nice remix desktop, just have background with trash and home icons...anybody know how to get back to the remix desktop?  it seems to be behind
[04:20] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  yes...i followed the same guide that i did before, only not working this time...seems others are having the same issue...not seen a solution yet
[04:20] <ae86-drifter_> i810, i815, i830, i845, i855, i865, i915, i945 and i965 series chipsets are supported
[04:21] <kinja-sheep> melwtech35: I'm under the impression that you wanted a fast machine yet you have many silly things like usplash and xsplash (imo).
[04:21] <melwtech35> kinja-sheep, default install
[04:21] <MasterShrek> so my friend has an ubuntu server set up, noticed that he was spamming and started looking at log files, hes seeing alot of attempts to log into his server as root (which he never does) wondering if anyone knows a way to stop this from happening, like say after a bunch of failed logins, to block the ip
[04:21] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Latest answers often can be found on launchpad. I'll try and search for one. You should try there too.
[04:21] <k0ala> are c-media audio driver alternates avilable for linux?i found on their website that they make it only for windows
[04:22] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep: okay...looking now
[04:22] <nils-> MasterShrek: easiest solution: Change the ssh port
[04:22] <wwwbryan> Hey, I am having a problem in Ubuntu 9.10 (not the prev versions) and my monitor cannot seem to auto adjust the screen correctly. It keeps adjusting it the wrong way almost every time. For example, my monitor is supposed to position the screen to meet all four sides of the screen. But it does not do that correctly with Ubuntu 9.10. The previous version worked fine. Is there a fix for this? Will Ubuntu fix it or wil I have to wa
[04:22] <wwwbryan> it until 10.04 comes out?
[04:22] <MasterShrek> nils- interesting idea, thanks
[04:23] <etfb> ae86-drifter_, I know it works because it ran fine with the live CD.  Once I installed Ubuntu, it stopped working.
[04:23] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  new issue...was working on reinstalling ndiswrapper and when issued modprobe got:  FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[04:23] <etfb> ae86-drifter_, It's aggravating.  I have better things to do.
[04:24] <ae86-drifter_> etfb, do you have xserver-xorg-video-intel installed?
[04:24] <etfb> ae86-drifter_, yes.
[04:24] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Try "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper"
[04:25] <ae86-drifter_> etfb, is it enabled in hardware drivers?
[04:25] <etfb> ae86-drifter_, jockey-gtk just says there are no proprietary drivers in use, but doesn't give me any options.
[04:26] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: It worked now?
[04:26] <lucky> anyone have any experience with ubuntu on the toshiba nb305 ?  how do i get screen brightness and bluetooth working?  and how do i keep it from shutting off the display permanetly if i hit the internal/external monitor key?
[04:26] <minimec> etfb: There are no restricted (closed source) drivers for intel GPU
[04:26] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep: i issued the complete command before...gave normal warning about .conf and then the fatal error
[04:26] <etfb> minimec, are there any FLOSS ones that work?
[04:27] <melwtech35> kinja-sheep, is ntupdate reasonably safe to disable
[04:27] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/357375/
[04:27] <etfb> minimec, (note: dictionary definition of "work" does not include a max resolution of 800x600)
[04:27] <FAJ> Ok I need some help now; i am to the point where I can get into my filesystem, buuuuut i need help now making it so i am able to access my home directory.. help?
[04:28] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: I'll be back in 10ish.
[04:28] <melwtech35> sorry ntpdate
[04:28] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep: okay...i need a restart anyways
[04:28] <anonbadger> FAJ: why can't you?
[04:28] <FAJ> anonbadger: permissions stuff;   right now what is the command so i can create a user and put him in sudo
[04:28] <wwwbryan> Ok, I guess nobody will answer my question.
[04:28] <FAJ> ?
[04:29] <anonbadger> put him sudoers... I would have to look it up
[04:29] <paulmer> Sigh. I updated packages on a ubuntu machine and it wouldn't boot after that
[04:29] <FAJ> something like sudo useradd...
[04:29] <paulmer> got stuck at grub menu
[04:29] <paulmer> did ls / and saw initrd.old/kernel.old
[04:29] <minimec> etfb: If you have some problems with your GPU in combination with linux, i guess it would be good a try to install newer kernels from here (http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/) in combination wuth the intel driver ppa (I do so for specific ati GPU). There is so much going on ... You cannot imagine... ;)
[04:29] <paulmer> but no /kernel
[04:30] <paulmer> Fail.
[04:30] <paulmer> Why didn't it install the new kernel properly?
[04:30] <etfb> minimec, I have a friend who works for IBM.  he tells me horror stories.  The Intel PPA sounds like a goer though.
[04:30] <FAJ> anonbadger: sorry
[04:30] <etfb> minimec, Except: it worked fine with the live CD.  Why would it fail when I install?
[04:30] <anonbadger> sorry for what?
[04:31] <minimec> etfb: That is in fact a good question...
[04:31] <etfb> minimec, Why thank you.  I thought so too.
[04:31] <FAJ> anonbadger: ok so i just reinstalled, but i wasn't able to get ubuntu to use my old home directory...
[04:31] <anonbadger> ah yes
[04:32] <anonbadger> ok well your old /home will be on a separate partition
[04:32] <anonbadger> so mount it and move it to your new /home
[04:32] <FAJ> anonbadger: soooo what to do to make it use it?
[04:32] <minimec> etfb: When you load the live CD... Why don't you simpy do a sudo X --configure and save the xorg.conf.new on a stick? ;)
[04:32] <herpez> hi. i have a hp tablet tx2000 and i installed ubuntu 9.10. I updated, reboot and now the screen is black
[04:32] <minimec> etfb: Like that you should have a working xorg.conf...
[04:33] <anonbadger> FAJ: do you want the config files in there too?
[04:33] <etfb> minimec, interesting idea.  But I thought it didn't use xorg.conf any more.
[04:33] <FAJ> anonbadger: i want it just as it was :)
[04:33] <FAJ> anonbadger: so yes i guess.
[04:33] <ae86-drifter_> anybody using the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5650 GPU
[04:33] <minimec> etfb: If you put one in /etc/X11/ it will be used. Besides... Would it would give you something to pastebin here ;)
[04:34] <Zer> Does anyone know a way to make an arbitrary-IP loopback interface?
[04:34] <Zer> I'd very much like to test something on a particular IP from the same machine
[04:35] <ae86-drifter_> Zer, edit the host file!
[04:35] <lucky> anyone have any experience with ubuntu on the toshiba nb305 ?  how do i get screen brightness and bluetooth working?  it also doesn't wake up from sleep.
[04:35] <Zer> IP address not domain name :)
[04:35] <melwtech35> is it safe to apt-get remove xsplash
[04:35] <anonbadger> cp -PR /mountpoint/home/FAJ /home/FAJ
[04:36] <Zer> I mean, say I want IP <IP_ADDRESS> to be loopback as well...
[04:36] <FAJ> nope that's not it anonbadger... sorry
[04:36] <Zer> Not a domain name pointing to <IP_ADDRESS>. I need to bind to it :)
[04:36] <anonbadger> FAJ what do you mean?
[04:36] <anonbadger> do you know how to get to the old /home?
[04:36] <etfb> minimec, OK, I'll give it a whirl.  It's on this machine, so I won't be back until I've rebooted again...
[04:37] <FAJ> anonbadger: i am in the computer... i came across this before.......... but i don't remember how to fix it.... it's it's like adduser, and then you tell it to keep the old directory... but i think permissions are messed toooo.'
[04:37] <anonbadger> oh
[04:37] <lucky> can anyone give me any advice on how likely it is ubuntu will support my machine? :(
[04:37] <anonbadger> sorry man I am not sure
[04:37] <minimec> etfb: no problem... remeber... you will have to <ctrl><alt>f1 and sudo stop gdm, to configure X
[04:37] <anonbadger> I haven't played with users
[04:38] <anonbadger> I'll check my book of tricks
[04:38] <ae86-drifter_> Zer, add <IP_ADDRESS> localhost
[04:38] <FAJ> Flannel: can you help me out?
[04:38] <Zer> Won't that just make localhost point to something on the Internet?
[04:38] <lucky> if i return this one, are there any lists of netbooks which are highly or fully compatible with ubuntu?
[04:39] <anonbadger> lucky doesn't the nebook come with xandros?
[04:40] <Zer> oooo
[04:40] <Zer> I fund a way
[04:40] <Zer> ifconfig lo add <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:40] <lucky> anonbadger: no.
[04:40] <ae86-drifter_> Zer oh u probs need to do IP Aliasing
[04:40] <anonbadger> there is a netbook OS for the eeepc
[04:40] <anonbadger> based on xandros
[04:40] <herpez> please, help me to solve this, i guess the problem is this  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg-server/+bug/358643
[04:41] <lucky> anonbadger: it's not the eeepc heh
[04:41] <anonbadger> yeah ok nvm
[04:41] <Zer> Yep that looks right ae86. Thanks
[04:42] <anonbadger> lucky what have you tried?
[04:42] <anonbadger> to get ubuntu working?
[04:42] <lucky> anonbadger: ubuntu does start but like i said, it doesn't wake from sleep, i can't adjust screen brightness, bluetooth doesn't work... there's probably other problems but i haven't discovered them yet.
[04:43] <lucky> i don't know what to try, i've googled this extensively and it seems i'm the only person on the planet to have tried to put ubuntu on this machine.
[04:43] <FAJ> ok so i just reinstalled, but i wasn't able to get ubuntu to use my old home directory...
[04:43] <anonbadger> you might be the oly one
[04:44] <punto> hi.. which package provides 'asoundconf'?
[04:44] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  i am back
[04:44] <lucky> anonbadger: yeah, great :(
[04:44] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Welcome back.
[04:45] <Vbitz> anyone know what is ipv6 format prefix 000 is
[04:45] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Take a look in /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper -- It is complaining because the file does not have ".conf" at the end. Also, what is in that file?
[04:46] <anonbadger> punto: The program 'asoundconf' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing:
[04:46] <anonbadger> sudo apt-get install alsa-utils
[04:46] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: You're in root mode. "aptitude search ndiswrapper" It displayed installed?
[04:46] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  i have seen there .conf complaint before...the file has one line:  alias wlan0 ndiswrapper
[04:46] <FAJ> ok so i just reinstalled, but i wasn't able to get ubuntu to use my old home directory...  I am trying to work in adduser to get a user to do this; but i don't remember the command line :( help?!
[04:47] <anonbadger> FAJ: have you asked ##linux ?
[04:47] <FAJ> anonbadger:  people in here normally know...
[04:47] <punto> anonbadger: but it doesn't come with alsa-utils
[04:47] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  yes all installed...
[04:47] <punto> anonbadger: root@charly:/espacio/mp3# dpkg -L alsa-utils | grep conf
[04:47] <punto> that gives me nothing
[04:48] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Add ".conf" will fix that "WARNING" message btw.
[04:49] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  it creates the .conf file when it does it...so there are ndiswrapper and ndiswrapper.conf with same info in that dir
[04:50] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  okay....modprobe came back clean this time...after complete ndiswrapper install
[04:50] <MrSun> Hi people, How many of you have used irc.everywherechat.com? Don't use it again. There are corrupt operators on it. I just got banned from their server support room by stating that one of the operators calling me a girl was insulting.
[04:50] <Coded1> i have an nvidia 6200 running on nvidia proprietary version 185, wanted to play with some desktop effects ... any suggestions?
[04:50] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  also changed .inf file from advice on a forum....ndiswrapper now shows device present...still not working
[04:51] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: This is frustrating. "lsmod | grep ndis" display anything?
[04:51] <protojay> MrSun that is T
[04:51] <protojay> OT
[04:51] <anonbadger> punto: https://code.launchpad.net/~crimsun/asoundconf-ui/asoundconf-trunk
[04:51] <anonbadger> maybe?
[04:51] <kinja-sheep> protojay: The girl left.
[04:51] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  tell me about it...been at this for days....output:  ndiswrapper           185532  0
[04:52] <scunizi> Coded1: install compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:52] <FAJ> can someone please tell me how to create a new user in ubuntu???? one that will be in admin, and that i can use to copy preferences and whatnot to this user directory??? please help :(
[04:52] <FAJ> or how to specify a home directory for an existing user????
[04:52] <punto> funny
[04:53] <melwtech35> theres a small delay for my touchpad to move again after i type, how do i change this delay time (usually in xorg.conf but theres none on 9.10)
[04:53] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  still getting the firmware error in dmesg....   : (
[04:53] <Bacta> MrSun: The same could be said of most networks
[04:53] <Coded1> scunizi, ill give it a shot
[04:53] <Coded1> ty
[04:53] <kinja-sheep> FAJ: adduser or useradd (in CLI). There are GUI somewhere in System --> Admin --> ?
[04:54] <FAJ> kinja-sheep: can't get to gui
[04:54] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: What error?
[04:54] <anonbadger> man useradd
[04:54] <spersaud> melwtech35: X -configure as root
[04:54] <scunizi> Coded1: that's basically the tool to manipulate the effects
[04:54] <sje46> How do I make a command to mount my Windows partition?  I can't even find where it is.  It isn't in /media like it is after I mount it through the GUI
[04:54] <ChogyDan> FAJ: have you looked at the permissions?
[04:54] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  i copied the .bin file over to /lib/firmware/RTL8192SU, but still get rtl819xU:ERR!!! _rtl8192_up(): initialization is failed!
[04:54] <anonbadger> sje46: sudo fdisk -l
[04:54] <sje46> thanks!
[04:55] <anonbadger> find the partition with ntfs format
[04:55] <spersaud> melwtech35: to generate one
[04:55] <FAJ> ChogyDan: kinda.... i am kinda all over the place... and nothing seems to be working...
[04:55] <FAJ> it just says no home directory is found.
[04:55] <melwtech35> spersaud, is there another way? i dont want to kill my gdm session
[04:55] <paulmer> Wow, ubuntu sucks.
[04:55] <ChogyDan> FAJ: did you use the same username?
[04:55] <paulmer> Updated a fresh install.
[04:55] <paulmer> Won't boot now
[04:55] <FAJ> ChogyDan: i can create a new username if needed...
[04:55] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  output from dmesg http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/357385/
[04:55] <paulmer> "Failed to boot default entries"
[04:56] <spersaud> melwtech35: just go to runlevel 1, init 1
[04:56] <scunizi> FAJ: I missed most of this .. is this for the primary user? and on install did you make a seperate /home partition for that user?
[04:56] <paulmer> what a piece of junk.
[04:56] <paulmer> this is the second time it's done this
[04:56] <paulmer> I guess I'll just have to update the kernel by hand because ubuntu is too much of a piece of shit
[04:56] <paulmer> to do make install
[04:56] <FAJ> scunizi: no i didn't mean to; but yes it did; then i tried to change the primary user to the /home directory i wanted to,,, and now totally messed up....
[04:56] <scunizi> paulmer: probably a conflict with a piece of hardware..
[04:56] <Alan502> Good day, my samba stoped working... Some days ago i could still access my shared files on other computers but i don't know what did i touch that now i can only access those files if i boot from windows. Would someone help me?
[04:56] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: I'm reading this. You want to try it? http://tinyurl.com/yk282rq
[04:56] <paulmer> scunizi, it's a EEEpc
[04:56] <paulmer> nothing exotic....
[04:57] <paulmer> S
[04:57] <paulmer> Seriously frustrating
[04:57] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Are you sure it should be rtl819xU? Not rt2870sta?
[04:57] <paulmer> What a joke, no wonder Linux will never become popular. Can you imagine windows becoming non-functional after running Windows Update?
[04:57] <paulmer> No.
[04:57] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Wrong driver (or) file, perhaps?
[04:57] <scunizi> FAJ: so you created a seperate partition for a user(s).. all users live in the same partition (usually).. so how did you identify the new /home partition in /etc/fstab?
[04:58] <FAJ> scunizi: i tried something along the lines of sudo adduser louisold --home /home/louis --no-create-home... no luck :(
[04:58] <scunizi> FAJ: so louisold is a 2nd user on the system?
[04:59] <sje46> anonbadger, there are two "NTFS" decides
[04:59] <sje46> /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda2
[04:59] <FAJ> scunizi: just did sudo adduser louisolds --home /home/louis --no-create-home
[04:59] <FAJ> scunizi: and so it says it worked... should i try to log in to louisolds?
[04:59] <FAJ> scunizi: yes, second user(s)
[04:59] <scunizi> FAJ: ok.. try to log into it
[05:00] <anonbadger> is sda2 quite large?
[05:00] <FAJ> scunizi: is it okay just to do a gdm resart?
[05:00] <anonbadger> well well mount sda2
[05:00] <rhamptonii> kinja-sheep:  yes reading it now...thanks for the link
[05:00] <scunizi> FAJ: yep
[05:00] <FAJ> scunizi: it tells me that /home/louis does not appear to exist BUT I KNOW IT DOES! :\
[05:00] <kinja-sheep> rhamptonii: Np. Keep me posted.
[05:00] <sje46> sda1 is the big one, anonbadger
[05:00] <FAJ> maybe permissions?
[05:00] <melwtech35> is speech-di in sysv for text to speech?
[05:01] <anonbadger> ok we'll mount the larger one
[05:01] <scunizi> FAJ: you trying to get louisolds to use the same location as louis?
[05:01] <FAJ> scunizi: sudo chown louisolds /home/louis; sudo chmod -R 644 /home/louis
[05:01] <Darkedge> I had the idea of writting a script to automaticly check for updates to World of Goo, Where would I start to write a script to check if a certain charactor on a webpage has changed and place the needed .DEB Package in the update manager?
[05:01] <FAJ> scunizi: i just want a user that has all the same prefs that i had before the clean install :)
[05:01] <anonbadger> I am not sure... but I think it would be sudo mount -t /dev/sda1 /media/
[05:02] <FAJ> scunizi: does that make sense?
[05:02] <microhaxo> Does ubuntu offer good SSD support for Intel x25 ssd's ?
[05:03] <scunizi> FAJ: what are you trying to log into as? louisolds? or louis?  and to chown it's "sudo chown louisolds:louisolds /home/louis
[05:03] <FAJ> scunizi: just tried louisolds.  i want to login as louie in the end.... so have louie as username; home directory of /home/louis
[05:03] <Alan502> Hi everyone. My samba stoped working, apparently. Some days ago i could still access the shares on windows computers  from ubuntu. Now i don't know what did i touch that I can only access those samba shares if i boot from Windows. Can someone help me?
[05:04] <ChogyDan> paulmer: looks like a grub2 error
[05:04] <kinja-sheep> FAJ: Me think "sudo useradd -d /home/louis -m louie"
[05:04] <paulmer> ChogyDan, why is grub2 in synaptic if it's causing errors
[05:04] <paulmer> Where is Q&A on this
[05:04] <paulmer> Epic fail.
[05:04] <FAJ> kinja-sheep: right now i am logged in as louie in tty0,,, log out of it firstA?
[05:04] <scunizi> FAJ: so you have 2 users .. louisolds & louie .. and ultimately you want louie to log in and own /home/louis? did I get that right?
[05:05] <paulmer> It's a 100 percent default install
[05:05] <FAJ> scunizi: yes'sir
[05:05] <paulmer> on very mainsteam hardware
[05:05] <paulmer> Ridiculous.
[05:05] <kinja-sheep> FAJ: Uh. I'm not sure. Better safe than sorry.
[05:05] <ChogyDan> paulmer: well, that's the curse of linux I suppose.  Whats your partition makeup?
[05:05] <brijith> Hi all how can I reorder os list in Boot loader  in Ubuntu 9.10... Which file to edit.
[05:05] <paulmer> ChogyDan, I made seperate partitions for /var, /boot and swap
[05:05] <paulmer> You know, having something to automatically update the kernel is stupid anyway..
[05:05] <scunizi> FAJ: and can you log in at this point as louie right now? .. regardless of the /home errors?
[05:06] <paulmer> I
[05:06] <ChogyDan> paulmer: hmmm, well, there is a bug against the separate boot partition: http://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?26834
[05:06] <paulmer> I haven't had an issue with gentoo
[05:06] <neil_d> I heed help!  using vlc for working a webcam.. if I useing "Media->Open Capture Device"  I can get both video and audio :)    but using "Media->Streaming" I can't get the audio to work (even with the same parameters) :(    why?
[05:06] <paulmer> in like 5 years
[05:06] <paulmer> ;)
[05:06] <FloodBot3> paulmer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:06] <FAJ> scunizi: no; only into command line tty- where i am using / as home dir.
[05:06] <paulmer> Try out this distro that's supposed to be "easy" to use
[05:06] <paulmer> and it bricks out on me
[05:06] <paulmer> Funny.
[05:06] <paulmer> Very funny.
[05:06] <FloodBot3> paulmer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:06] <bazhang> paulmer, here is not the place to rant
[05:06] <anonbadger> sje46: what happened?
[05:07] <sje46> anonbadger, it's...not working
[05:07] <sje46> it has a bunch of code
[05:07] <anonbadger> yeah
[05:07] <sje46> output*, but the partition still doesn't show up
[05:07] <scunizi> FAJ: ok.. so with you logged in as louie in a tty can you mount the /home/louis partition (doesn't matter if you can actually access a file.. just mount the drive/partition)
[05:07] <paulmer> bazhang, grub sucks anyway.
[05:07] <paulmer> Is lilo in the pacakge thing
[05:07] <paulmer> whatever it's called on ubuntu
[05:08] <FAJ> scunizi: the /home partition is set as /home from the install.
[05:08] <scunizi> FAJ: can you rename the /home/louis to louie to match the user name you want to log in as?
[05:10] <ChogyDan> paulmer: https://bugs.launchpad.net/debian/+source/grub2/+bug/403408        that's the ubuntu bug that I found, sorry things didn't work out
[05:10] <FAJ> scunizi: i can try;...... shooot,,, see now i have a /home/louie a /home/louis/ a /home/test/ and a /home/louiOLD
[05:10] <scunizi> FAJ: which one has the files in it you want?
[05:10] <FAJ> scunizi: prettttty sure /home/louis
[05:10] <jjmartin> every time i login a terminal either by byobu or alt+crtl+F1 i get this http://pastebin.com/mf831822. how do i prevent that from being displayed
[05:11] <scunizi> FAJ: k.. sudo mv /home/louis /home/louie
[05:11] <anonbadger> sje46: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/windows/
[05:11] <brijith> Hi all how can I reorder os list in Boot loader  in Ubuntu 9.10... Which file to edit. ?
[05:11] <FAJ> scunizi: how can i be for sure...... should i first sudo mv /home/louie /homelouiebad?
[05:11] <sje46> anonbadger, no such directory
[05:12] <FAJ> ok just did what you said scunizi
[05:12] <sje46> usually it's /media/55435bunchofnumbers58493
[05:12] <brijith> Hi all how can I reorder os list in Boot loader  in Ubuntu 9.10... Which file to edit. In ubuntu 9.04 there was a file some where in /boot/grub/
[05:12] <scunizi> FAJ: k.. now sudo chmod louie:louie /home/louie
[05:12] <FAJ> scunizi:  so now have a /home/louie, louiebad, louie old, test
[05:12] <FAJ> scunizi:  kk
[05:13] <FAJ> scunizi:  i am logged in as louie currently... fyi? keep going?
[05:14] <scunizi> FAJ: now it's probably best to sudo restart now .. and log in as louie.. see if gui comes up and you have access to the files.
[05:14] <FAJ> scunizi: after running command above?
[05:14] <calliscope> hi
[05:14] <scunizi> yep..
[05:14] <scunizi> FAJ: you could try a startx or sudo service gdm start
[05:15] <FAJ> scunizi:  chmod ; invalid mode: 'louie:louie'
[05:15] <Alan502> Hi everyone. My samba stoped working, apparently. Some days ago i could still access the shares on windows computers  from ubuntu. Now i don't know what did i touch that I can only access those samba shares if i boot from Windows. Can someone help me?
[05:15] <anonbadger> sje46: sudo mkdir /media/windows
[05:15] <scunizi> FAJ: are  you logged in as louie or louis?
[05:15] <anonbadger> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/windows/
[05:15] <FAJ> louie
[05:15] <scunizi> FAJ: and chmod failed?
[05:16] <FAJ> scunizi: chmod: invalid mode:  'louie:louie'
[05:16] <JoshDreamland> Can anyone tell me where to get Flurry?
[05:16] <blakkheim> FAJ: i think you're looking for chown not chmod
[05:16] <scunizi> FAJ: my mistake.. sudo chown louie:louie /home/louie
[05:16] <scunizi> FAJ: forget chmod right now.
[05:16] <JoshDreamland> I tried downloading from the Ubuntu forum. Prompted for login, so I made an account. Permission denied.
[05:16] <scunizi> use chown
[05:16] <FAJ> scunizi:  ahhh :)  thank you for your help sooo much, seriously
[05:16] <FAJ> scunizi: chown worked
[05:17] <scunizi> FAJ: cool.. you could try startx and see what happens
[05:17] <sje46> anonbadger, wow, that worked!  I'm surprised
[05:17] <anonbadger> haha
[05:17] <anonbadger> I knew we would get it to work
[05:17] <JoshDreamland> People have been screaming about the Flurry screensaver being CPU intensive and even volatile, but I've run it before, a million years ago, and I'd like to run it again
[05:17] <FAJ> scunizi: even while logged into louie in tty- with / as ~ ??
[05:17] <anonbadger> sje46: wanna make a script?
[05:18] <scunizi> FAJ: you might need to restart.. better on a fresh slate so to speak
[05:18] <sje46> anonbadger, is it possible to mount it again, though?  Because usually it's /media/585943/
[05:18] <FAJ> scunizi: restart sounds good
[05:18] <sje46> anonbadger, well, I think I already have the command
[05:18] <anonbadger> yes just mkdir /media/585943
[05:18] <anonbadger> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/585943
[05:19] <FAJ> scunizi: so then try to logon as louie, correct?
[05:19] <scunizi> FAJ: yep
[05:19] <FAJ> scunizi: "your home directory is listed as : '/home/louis' but it does not appear to exist....
[05:19] <FAJ> scunizi: ok so now we need to make /home/louie the home directory, not home louis...
[05:20] <scunizi> FAJ: k.. rename it again.. sudo mv /home/louie /home/louis .. hopefully that will work
[05:20] <JoshDreamland> Can someone please mirror this for me?
[05:20] <JoshDreamland> http://ubuntuforums.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=107327&d=1237772181
[05:20] <JoshDreamland> even just for five minutes
[05:20] <FAJ> scunizi: kk
[05:21] <FAJ> scunizi: kk restarting
[05:21] <neil_d> is there a command I can run to log-out gnome ?
[05:22] <FAJ> scunizi: same error.....
[05:22] <scunizi> neil_d: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop .. or maybe sudo service gdm stop
[05:23] <acclaimtech> what is up with having to go through all the registration bs?
[05:23] <scunizi> FAJ: do you have a second user that you can log into as and get the gui? one that actually has a functional /home
[05:23] <Darkedge> im kinda concerned my computer is not using all the power it can, I got a gig of RAM, I have Firefox and irssi open and its lagging.
[05:23] <Darkedge> Any ideas?
[05:23] <sje46> anonbadger, how do I, like, combine commands?  Because I have to do mkdir first
[05:23] <FAJ> scunizi: i could create one? :\
[05:24] <blakkheim> Darkedge: are you using ubuntu? are you using gnome/kde?
[05:24] <Dr_Willis> Darkedge:  flash can be a laggy  bit of work.
[05:24] <scunizi> FAJ: sure just don't do the --no-create-home thing again
[05:24] <Darkedge> blakkheim: GNOME, Ubuntu.
[05:24] <anonbadger> sudo mkdir /media/585943; sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/585943
[05:24] <blakkheim> Darkedge: are you playing flash in firefox when it lags?
[05:24] <FAJ> scunizi: sooo what would the command be, i wanna get it right...
[05:24] <Darkedge> blakkheim: Yes.
[05:24] <scunizi> FAJ: I'll have to google
[05:24] <acclaimtech> anyone know how to get the 3d working in vmware workstation 7 on Karmic?
[05:25] <blakkheim> Darkedge: ok and what cpu do you have
[05:25] <FAJ> scunizi: sudo adduser tester --no-create-home
[05:25] <FAJ> ?
[05:25] <acclaimtech> all my guests have no 3d capability
[05:25] <Darkedge> blakkheim: I dell demison 2400 with an upgraded 512MB of RAM, I baught the RAM cause I thought it would solve the lag, but it feels like $50 was waste.
[05:25] <blakkheim> Darkedge: none of that answered the question i asked
[05:26] <Darkedge> blakkheim: you asked what CPU I have, I have a Dell Demison 2400..?
[05:26] <neil_d> scunizi: thanks trying those.
[05:26] <blakkheim> Darkedge: that's a computer model, not a cpu
[05:26] <Alan502> Hi everyone. My samba stoped working, apparently. Some days ago i could still access the shares on windows computers  from ubuntu. Now i don't know what did i touch that I can only access those samba shares if i boot from Windows. Can someone help me?
[05:26] <scunizi> FAJ: forget the --no-create-home thing.. you want to have a functional home for a user
[05:26] <Alan502> it's just samba! help!!!
[05:26] <Darkedge> blakkheim: oh, how do I check my CPU?
[05:27] <blakkheim> Darkedge: grep name /proc/cpuinfo ; grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo
[05:27] <etfb> How do I create an xorg.conf file in Karmic, so I can override the stupid auto-detect settings with better ones?
[05:28] <Darkedge> model name	: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
[05:28] <Darkedge> cpu MHz		: 2790.586
[05:28] <scunizi> FAJ: useradd mytest .... then passwd mytest
[05:28] <acclaimtech> etfb: do this
[05:28] <acclaimtech> sudo -i
[05:28] <blakkheim> Darkedge: not exactly the newest cpu, but it should play flash for sure. flash is proprietary and uses a lot of resources since it's very unoptimized
[05:28] <acclaimtech> nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:29] <blakkheim> Darkedge: if you aren't using flash does it lag?
[05:29] <FAJ> scunizi: sigghhh.
[05:29] <acclaimtech> adobe has problems with flash on linux
[05:29] <etfb> acclaimtech, I want to make one that has all the current auto-detected settings in it already, so I can find which one is wrong.
[05:29] <FAJ> scunizi: idk what i am doing.... i am messing this up.