[12:44] <GatoLoko> Seveas i will kiss you if that works, but somebody tell me that is a problem with MY libs
[12:44] <Da_SWAT> ompaul, dvdrecord. No such file or directory. No read access for 'dev/dev/hdc'.
[12:44] <zcat[1] > Da_SWAT: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-38527.html suggest trying hdc=noprobe hdd=noprobe.
[12:45] <larsrohdin> im having troubles playing dvd:s on mplayer. It gives the error 'Mplayer interupted by signal 11 in module decode:audio' how can I fix it?
[12:45] <ompaul> Da_SWAT, come on that was not the command
[12:45] <kelmo_lap> [LethAL] : obviously i can't support ubuntu users yet, that why i'm looking for testers, so give it your best shot
[12:45] <Da_SWAT> that was the output of the command for dvdrecord
[12:45] <Da_SWAT> ompaul, that was the output of the command for dvdrecord
[12:45] <Seveas> larsrohdin, signal 11 is a segfaulf -- you found an mplayer bug
[12:45] <ompaul> Da_SWAT, this  >>>  dvdrecord -pad -eject dev=/dev/hdd my.iso    <<   note the equals  just in case
[12:46] <[LethAL] > kelmo_lap, Yes, but that package on that pacge only mentioned atheros cards
[12:46] <Da_SWAT> zcat[1] , I'll try it (I'm desperate :D)
[12:46] <kelmo_lap> [LethAL] : http://kanotix.com/files/debian/pool/r/rt2570/
[12:46] <[LethAL] > ty
[12:46] <kelmo_lap> no atheros support there
[12:46] <zcat[1] > ompaul: I thought we established that the missing drive was definately /dev/hdc (master secondary)
[12:47] <aftertaf> lu thoreauputic :) arrrrrrr
[12:47] <larsrohdin> Seveas, so does that mean there's nothing I can do?
[12:47] <kelmo_lap> lots of australian ubuntu users
[12:47] <kelmo_lap> good to see
[12:47] <ompaul> zcat[1] , this is true I was pointing to the original example :) with a minor edit for Da_SWAT to use - however if Da_SWAT was to up arrow we could see the command to be sure
[12:47] <Da_SWAT> ompaul, damn, then I did something wrong. Anyway, my hdc device (pioneer) gives an error. Cannot open /dev/hdc. No such file/direcotry
[12:47] <Proof> Can somone help me out?
[12:48] <thoreauputic> aftertaf: quite a welcome was that - especially combined with the beep from my client ;)
[12:48] <[LethAL] > !helpme
[12:48] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[12:48] <Proof> !helpme
[12:48] <Belutz> !tell Proof about ask
[12:48] <aftertaf> thoreauputic> you got arrrrr in beep words?
[12:48] <larsrohdin> what other players are there? for playing dvd:s?
[12:48] <ompaul> Da_SWAT, so what is confusing the living ** out of me is what is that /dev/hdc entry in your fstab
[12:48] <Belutz> ompaul: hai :)
[12:49] <ompaul> Belutz, good morning/evening
[12:49] <Belutz> ompaul: evening in here :)
[12:49] <Belutz> ompaul: 17:49
[12:49] <Turicas> hello all..i want to execute an command when system initializes (AFTER ppp connects - in my adsl provider). how i can do it?
[12:50] <zcat[1] > ompaul: yeah, I think there's a kernel bug.. rolling back to 2.6.8 might fix the problem until a better patch comes along..
[12:50] <bob2> Turicas: what's the command?
[12:50] <[LethAL] > kelmo_lap, You nearby?
[12:50] <aftertaf> Turicas> maybe add sth to ifup.d script?
[12:50] <kelmo_lap> [LethAL] : sup
[12:50] <Da_SWAT> ompaul, I think I made that manually once or something. It SHOULD work this way, yet it doesn't. I've tried countless number of things.... none were succesfull
[12:50] <[LethAL] > I installed it and module-assistant
[12:50] <[LethAL] > Now what?
[12:50] <ompaul> zcat[1] , yuk - I hate backwards :)
[12:50] <Turicas> aftertaf, what?? excuse me, but i'm newbie on linux :(
[12:50] <thoreauputic> aftertaf: arrrrrrrrr! She be breakin up, matey! Me beeps be warnin' me of yer boardin' party!
[12:50] <zcat[1] > the /dev/hdc entry suggest that it was working once ( or added manually : )
[12:50] <Proof> I've just started ubuntu, setup was completed n' all but.. all i see is a dos window with postfix, how do i skip this process or go straight to desktop?
[12:51] <ompaul> Da_SWAT, have you tried breezy or hoary, or both?
[12:51] <kelmo_lap> [LethAL] : module-assistant is really for when using a native repository
[12:51] <aftertaf> loool thoreauputic,  Well, me hearties, lets see what crawled out of the bung hole
[12:51] <[LethAL] > kelmo_lap, I got it from the ubuntu repos, don't worry
[12:51] <kelmo_lap> [LethAL] : i would suggest using make-kpkg, as i cannot supply an ubuntu compat. repository
[12:51] <Da_SWAT> ompaul, only hoary. I'll try breezy when it's gold :P
[12:51] <Seveas> kelmo_lap, build failed :|
[12:51] <kelmo_lap> Seveas: any specific error?
[12:52] <Da_SWAT> zcat[1] , it never worked :(
[12:52] <Seveas> do you use gcc-3.4 explicitely in your makefiles?
[12:52] <kelmo_lap> no
[12:52] <nomad1> i cant use system -> administration -> disks      utility
[12:52] <thoreauputic> aftertaf: do *real* pirates say "bung hole" ? ;)
[12:52] <Seveas> then that's the proble
[12:52] <Seveas> breezy uses gcc 4 by default :)
[12:52] <kelmo_lap> so do i
[12:52] <nomad1> when i try to enable acess to a partition nuthing happens
[12:53] <Seveas> the ubuntu kernels are compiled with 3.4 though
[12:53] <kelmo_lap> ahh
[12:53] <kelmo_lap> thats a nightmare to support . . .
[12:53] <zcat[1] > Da_SWAT: ahh, ok.. it's kinda late here so I'm probably not helping much. My brain has gone to sleep. I'll stop typing when my fingers fall asleep..
[12:53] <Whistler> is it possible to install rox via apt-get?
[12:53] <nomad1> any tips plz
[12:53] <thoreauputic> Whistler: yes
[12:53] <kelmo_lap> Seveas: how about when you export CC ?
[12:53] <deFrysk> !rox
[12:53] <ubotu> deFrysk: No idea
[12:53] <Seveas> Whistler, apt-get install rox-filer
[12:53] <thoreauputic> Whistler: rox-filer
[12:53] <Da_SWAT> zcat[1] , late is only a state of mind :D
[12:53] <deFrysk> hmz
[12:54] <bob2> nomad1: "enable access"?
[12:54] <CaiN_SA> im trying to delete a user and userdel tells me : user cain is currently logged in ?
[12:54] <nomad1> u set an access path
[12:54] <bob2> CaiN_SA: so log them out
[12:54] <zcat[1] > "sleep is for the weak!" :-)
[12:54] <Seveas> kelmo_lap, after installing gcc3.4 build succeeded :)
[12:54] <nomad1> then there is a button called enable
[12:54] <kelmo_lap> cool
[12:54] <CaiN_SA> bob2, they are not logged in
[12:54] <mrp_> Im new to the whole ubunto system, and all that is related, just installed and ran into a quite silly problem, i did not get the possibillity to set a password for the user 'root' i.e cant change nor configure nothing, is there a default password for root, which i will run into while RTFM? :P
[12:54] <bob2> nomad1: a button? where?
[12:54] <nomad1> i press it and nuthing happens
[12:54] <bob2> mrp_: wiki.ubunut.com/RootSudo
[12:54] <CaiN_SA> bob2, i reboot and try and then it tells me that
[12:54] <ompaul> Da_SWAT, zcat[1]  that has physical implications - that needs to be taken to #offtopic :)
[12:54] <kelmo_lap> Seveas: are you using make-kpkg?
[12:54] <Da_SWAT> ompaul, the thing that is scaring me is that my drive works perfectly under winblows :(
[12:54] <bob2> mrp_: the installer did point this out to you,and it's in the FAQ
[12:54] <Seveas> I'm about to install it so if my connection drops and I don't come back, things went wrong ;)
[12:54] <Turicas> i want to execute an command when system initializes (AFTER ppp connects - in my adsl provider). how i can do it?
[12:54] <bob2> CaiN_SA: who are you logged in as?
[12:55] <Seveas> kelmo_lap, no, module-assistant
[12:55] <nomad1> so u go system -> administration -> disks
[12:55] <ompaul> Da_SWAT, does not scare me
[12:55] <Da_SWAT> ompaul, LOL
[12:55] <CaiN_SA> bob2, root
[12:55] <nomad1> then u go to paritions tab
[12:55] <bob2> Turicas: and the command is...?
[12:55] <thoreauputic> CaiN_SA: are you trying to delete yourself? *grin*
[12:55] <nomad1> the laast option is status
[12:55] <kelmo_lap> Seveas: how do you use mod-add without having the source repo in your sources.list?
[12:55] <kelmo_lap> mod-ass*
[12:55] <Turicas> bob2, curl -o ~/logs http://...
[12:55] <mrp_> ah, thanks, maybe not so alert while installing then
[12:55] <CaiN_SA> thoreauputic, no its in a chroot env
[12:55] <ompaul> Da_SWAT, what does ls -l /dev/hdc tell you?
[12:55] <nomad1> and it says inaccessible and next to it there is a couple of buttons
[12:55] <Seveas> I installed your .deb before running module-assistant
[12:55] <kelmo_lap> ahh
[12:55] <nomad1> one of which is enable
[12:55] <kelmo_lap> of course
[12:55] <bob2> Turicas: add it as a if-up.d script, man 5 interfaces
[12:55] <nomad1> i press it and nuthing happens
[12:55] <Da_SWAT> ompaul, no such file or directory
[12:56] <mrp_> ok, cheers
[12:56] <Turicas> bob2, i'll test now..tkz :)
[12:56] <GatoLoko> Seveas i've installed your packages and still failing, i think is a problems with the libs, but a dist-upgrade don't change anything :(, may be i must reinstall
[12:56] <kelmo_lap> [LethAL] : how are you going over there?
[12:56] <Whistler> how do i update without using  update manager?
[12:56] <bob2> nomad1: what do you expect it to do?
[12:56] <[LethAL] > I just ran module-assistant
[12:56] <Whistler> can i update using bash?
[12:56] <bob2> Whistler: you mean the terminal? of course.
[12:56] <nomad1> to mount the partition so i can access its contents
[12:56] <bob2> Whistler: use aptitude or apt
[12:56] <ompaul> Da_SWAT, that might have lot to do with your problems
[12:56] <Proof> Can somone help please?
[12:56] <Turicas> bob2, the file is /etc/ifup.d ?
[12:56] <Belutz> wew the channel is busy
[12:56] <Whistler> bob2 what command?
[12:56] <bob2> Turicas: no, /etc/network/
[12:57] <thoreauputic> Whistler: sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:57] <bob2> Whistler: sudo aptitude...
[12:57] <Da_SWAT> ompaul, you mean the fact that my drive isn't recognized by Ubuntu? (what I have been saying all along)
[12:57] <marc`> GAIM dings when someone signs in, can i make it popup who signed in like MSN/Yahoo
[12:57] <ompaul> no the fact that you had fstab settings and there was no thing there for it
[12:57] <ompaul> no device
[12:58] <[LethAL] > kelmo_lap, just getting headers now
[12:58] <Turicas> bob2, tkz =D
[12:58] <Jurgeni> marc`: install guifications
[12:59] <Seveas> kelmo_lap, how to make sure *your* ath_pci.ko (etc) are loaded instead of the ubuntu ones?
[01:00] <kelmo_lap> Seveas: easy, remove the ubuntu ones first ; )
[01:00] <malv> Ubuntu is great. I am so used to fiddling with stuff at night with other linux distro's, but with Ubuntu, everything is in it's place.
[01:00] <Seveas> *g*
[01:00] <Seveas> I'll move them to a backup location :)
[01:00] <kelmo_lap> yep
[01:00] <aftertaf> malv:  :) yeah
[01:00] <Seveas> ok, modprobe -r / modprobe time
[01:01] <Seveas> brb (I hope)
[01:01] <aftertaf> !info java-package
[01:01] <ubotu> java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional. Version: 0.23 (hoary), Packaged size: 18 kB, Installed size: 264 kB
[01:02] <nomad1> wats a good program i can use to sync my pda
[01:03] <aftertaf> nomad1:  kde or gnome? i use kpilot, worked out of the box
[01:03] <nomad1> gnome plz
[01:03] <nomad1> i got a dell axim x50
[01:03] <nomad1> does kpilot work in gnome
[01:04] <Turicas> bob2, it doesnt worked :/
[01:04] <marc`> finally got mp3 working..
[01:04] <bob2> Turicas: that's a pretty vaue statement
[01:04] <Turicas> bob2, i put curl -o ~/FILE http://www.somesite.com/ and ~/FILE doesnt exist.. ;~
[01:04] <Turicas> bob2, ?
[01:04] <nomad1> aftertaf: any tips
[01:05] <aftertaf> nomad1:  probably yeah... but there is a gnome version (ish) too i think. gpilot
[01:05] <nomad1> does it work for pocket pc or just palm
[01:05] <aftertaf> nomad1:  not the same thing.....
[01:05] <aftertaf> palm != pcket pc.
[01:06] <aftertaf> mine is a palm and works fine with kpilot
[01:06] <Turicas> bob2, what happened?
[01:08] <Da_SWAT> ompaul, what you would recommend I do now?
[01:08] <ompaul> Da_SWAT, try a live CD of breezy badger to see if it can see the CD
[01:09] <Da_SWAT> so the hdc=noprobe wouldn't do any good for me
[01:09] <Da_SWAT> ?
[01:10] <bob2> Turicas: er
[01:10] <bob2> Turicas: you mean you made a script that does that, right?
[01:10] <bob2> and made it executable?
[01:10] <Turicas> bob2, yeh..
[01:10] <Turicas> bob2, i did cd /etc/network/if-up.d/; ./my_script and it executed successfully
[01:11] <[LethAL] > kelmo_lap, I'm in networking. If I automagically disappear, you'll know why.
[01:12] <Da_SWAT> ompaul, well, thanks for your time and help. I'll try the live CD and hope for better days
[01:12] <kelmo_lap> [LethAL] : heh, good luck
[01:12] <Turicas> bob2, but this script don't executes when system starts
[01:13] <ompaul> Da_SWAT, just check that both drives are set to master and slave and not cs
[01:14] <Da_SWAT> ompaul, done... twice or thrice or something
[01:15] <ompaul> k
[01:15] <ompaul> da
[01:15] <bob2> Turicas: if you replace it with a "touch /tmp/blahblah", does it work?
[01:15] <ompaul> Da_SWAT, one of the drives is faulty - is it faulty under windows also?
[01:16] <Turicas> bob2, replace what?
[01:16] <Da_SWAT> ompaul, nope.  In windows everything works fine :)
[01:17] <Turicas> bob2, i'll try..tkz
[01:19] <kelmo_lap> Seveas: i assume you had issues
[01:19] <kelmo_lap> yeah?
[01:19] <Seveas> kelmo_lap, yeah, brain issues :)
[01:19] <kelmo_lap> hehe
[01:19] <kelmo_lap> Seveas: so the new snapshot is working for you then
[01:19] <Seveas> apparently modprobe -r ath_* wlan_* and then modprobing them again (your version or mine) fucks up things
[01:20] <Seveas> so i rebooted and your modules work fine
[01:20] <kelmo_lap> Seveas: only trick would be to install gcc-3.4 before hand?
[01:20] <Seveas> and linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:20] <kelmo_lap> Seveas: and remove existing modules of course
[01:20] <kelmo_lap> ok, and linux-headers*
[01:20] <kelmo_lap> excellent
[01:20] <kelmo_lap> Seveas: thank you very much for testing that out man
[01:21] <Seveas> Isn't there a way to make /lib/modules/kernel version/drivers/net.. (your modules) be preferred over /lib/modules/kernel version/madwifi (ubuntu modules)?
[01:21] <kelmo_lap> hmm, not easily
[01:21] <Seveas> ok
[01:22] <Seveas> I'll write a howto on the wiki and will provide -386 -686 and -k7 packages shortly in my repo :)
[01:22] <kelmo_lap> Seveas: i'm really trying to figure out howto tweak modutils so that three rate modules can be installed, when only one is used
[01:22] <kelmo_lap> Seveas: awesome, that would be fantastic
[01:22] <Seveas> how often fo you update your sources?
[01:23] <Seveas> or packages?
[01:23] <Seveas> (which means: how often do I have to rebuild the modules :))
[01:23] <kelmo_lap> Seveas: i update quite often, but can contact you to notify of the more important upgrades
[01:23] <Seveas> that would rock
[01:23] <kelmo_lap> Seveas: i have a swag of other module packages if you are interested
[01:24] <Seveas> you have a list somewhere?
[01:25] <kelmo_lap> Seveas: no, but maybe i should grab your mail adress, then you can contatc me directly, if you wish to do so of course
[01:25] <kelmo_lap> contact*
[01:25] <Seveas> kelmo_lap, dennis [at]  kaarsemaker.net
[01:25] <kelmo_lap> Seveas: i hack for kanotix, anything that is not in debian, or old, that we want kernel support for is mostly my domain
[01:27] <Seveas> nice
[01:27] <reiki> quick note to Seveas, nalioth, ompaul, cafuego and the many folks who spend a great deal of time in here helping us be successful with Ubuntu... many many years ago I *did* what you're doing on a channel in Efnet for a new OS called Windows95. It was sometimes a thankless job and took an incredible amount of time. Just wanted to say "thank you" for all the help. It is much appreciated. .... gotta get ready for work now...
[01:27] <marc`> is if possible to get ubuntu recognising my media keys on my keyboard?
[01:27] <CaiN_SA> hmmmm so nobody helped me , gr8
[01:27] <kelmo_lap> marc`: acerhk?
[01:27] <Seveas> do you take stuff from ubuntu too? I know for instance that during the last days of hoary they were really fast with nvidia updates
[01:27] <ompaul> reiki, enjoy :)
[01:27] <nalioth> reiki: be safe today
[01:27] <kelmo_lap> marc`: ah, mm keyborad, not laptop . . .
[01:27] <Seveas> reiki, thanks!
[01:28] <aftertaf> reiki:  Hon Sha Ze Cho Nien dude
[01:28] <reiki> aftertaf: Dai Ko Myo
[01:28] <kelmo_lap> Seveas: to be honest, i have hardly looked at ubuntu, i should really get more information about their packaging practisices and repositories
[01:28] <kelmo_lap> practices*
[01:29] <Seveas> kelmo_lap, hanging out at #ubuntu-kernel (very low traffic) may be useful :)
[01:29] <ompaul> what is the command to get seconds since the epoch?
[01:29] <Seveas> date
[01:29] <Seveas> with some arguments
[01:29] <LethAL-Rocks> kelmo_lap, Same problem I had with FC4, can talk to router but not the world
[01:29] <Seveas> date +%s
[01:29] <marc`> so no idea kelmo_lap ?
[01:30] <Seveas><PHONE_NUMBER>
[01:30] <ompaul> Seveas,  thanks, I was just about to look under a rock for my brain but you saved me :)
[01:30] <marc`> its a microsoft media keyboard
[01:30] <aftertaf> argh... that word!! ;)
[01:30] <thoreauputic> marc`: language! please!
[01:30] <Seveas> guys...
[01:30] <LethAL-Rocks> Which one aftertaf, brain or microsoft?
[01:30] <kelmo_lap> marc`: i would use xev to get keycodes, then map them with xmodmap
[01:30] <kelmo_lap> hehe
[01:31] <kelmo_lap> [LethAL]  ?
[01:31] <[LethAL] > Ya?
[01:31] <[LethAL] > I can't ping my default gateway, but my router can. Any ideas?
[01:32] <bob2> CaiN_SA: remember everyone in here is a volunteer
[01:32] <kelmo_lap> [LethAL] : yeah
[01:32] <[LethAL] > kelmo_lap, Go on then
[01:32] <aftertaf> CaiN_SA:  wazzup?
[01:32] <kelmo_lap> [LethAL] : prey that the new rt2x00 module gets good fast, because the legacy driver is no longer getting any (if at all) attention
[01:33] <hansi_xp> whaza
[01:33] <kelmo_lap> [LethAL] : sorry, i can't really vouch for that driver, its still got heaps of hidoeus code innit
[01:33] <[LethAL] > I have the 2570-cvs-daily tar, maybe I should try that?
[01:33] <[LethAL] > Or get the 2x00 daily one?
[01:33] <kelmo_lap> [LethAL] : has not changed since my snapshot,
[01:34] <[LethAL] > ah
[01:34] <kelmo_lap> [LethAL] : the rt2x00 is _very_ experimental
[01:34] <kelmo_lap> don't expect it to work at all yet
[01:34] <hansi_xp> has anybody had any problems with mplayer and dvd and sound?
[01:34] <[LethAL] > Oh
[01:35] <MarzBar> anyone got an ATI Radeon 9550 to work with ubuntu properly? or using dual monitors? At the moment al i can get is clonedd view on the monitors
[01:35] <MarzBar> :S
[01:35] <kelmo_lap> [LethAL] : but thanks for testing out man
[01:35] <[LethAL] > Sure
[01:35] <kelmo_lap> [LethAL] : will come back t find you if the situation gets brighter ; )
[01:36] <[LethAL] > :)
[01:36] <[LethAL] > It's a shame the autoinstall feature doesn't work on Linux :P
[01:36] <kelmo_lap> bloody aussies
[01:36] <P-NuT> Hi all, I am happy to report that breazy has fixed my problem.
[01:36] <P-NuT> :-)
[01:36] <P-NuT> hey
[01:36] <P-NuT> I'm an aussie
[01:37] <[LethAL] > I think that's why he said it
[01:37] <CaiN_SA> aftertaf, i want to delete a user and it doesnt want to delete it
[01:37] <CaiN_SA> its in a chroot
[01:37] <kelmo_lap> P-NuT: can you come over to #madwifi so i can interigate you about the madwifi/hel version in breezy
[01:37] <hansi_xp> has anybody had success playing dvd with mplayer?
[01:37] <Seveas> kelmo_lap, if you want I can give you shell access to a breezy machine
[01:37] <hansi_xp> is there anybody out there? hehe
[01:38] <fadumpt> how do I free up /dev/dsp?
[01:38] <fadumpt> is there a lock file I can delete?
[01:38] <aftertaf> CaiN_SA:  did you synch the /etc/passwd et al? or add new users from within the chroot?
[01:38] <kelmo_lap> Seveas: thats cool, i've had enough ubuntu'ing for the night, but maybe i'll come back and hit you up for it in the future ; )
[01:38] <Seveas> k :)
[01:38] <CaiN_SA> aftertaf, i can add a new user, and the old one is in the files but i cant remove it
[01:39] <P-NuT> shall do
[01:39] <aftertaf> in the files on the master system or the chroot system?
[01:40] <hansi_xp> anybody use mplayer?
[01:40] <hansi_xp> anybody at all?
[01:40] <bob2> hansi_xp: asking the same uninformative question over and over seems suboptimal
[01:40] <bob2> hansi_xp: yes, lots of people use mplayer succesfully to watch dvds
[01:40] <aftertaf> hansi_xp:  have you checked all the mixer settings see if any are at 0 or muted?
[01:41] <CaiN_SA> aftertaf, both :)
[01:41] <aftertaf> suboptimal :D
[01:41] <hansi_xp> aftertaf: yes, the best i can do is mplayer dvd:// -nosound
[01:41] <hansi_xp> bob2: why don't you help me?
[01:41] <bob2> hansi_xp: why don't you explain the actual issue?
[01:41] <aftertaf> CaiN_SA:  does it cause an error on both systems?
[01:42] <bob2> any plan involving dvds and esd is doomed
[01:42] <fadumpt> can delete /de/dsp to free it up?
[01:42] <fadumpt> will it come back
[01:42] <hansi_xp> bob2: mplayer dvd:// -ao esd , i can't listen to dvd
[01:43] <aftertaf> fadumpt:  dont break what you dont know how to repair...... advice from a mostly newbie ;)
[01:43] <CaiN_SA> aftertaf, no just in the chroot
[01:43] <fadumpt> aftertaf, well i know that a lot of files reload
[01:43] <bob2> hansi_xp: pkill esd, mplayer -ao oss
[01:43] <fadumpt> so i was kinda hoping this would just reload too
[01:43] <x[BrB] x> bob2 can i make a shortcut of my download folder on my desktop?
[01:43] <aftertaf> CaiN_SA:  and if you go into the files themselves you can't remove them?
[01:43] <bob2> x[BrB] x: sure...
[01:43] <fadumpt> cuz it's saying something about [OSS]  cant open /dev/dsp
[01:44] <hansi_xp> bob2: still no sound
[01:44] <aftertaf> fadumpt:  u on gnom eor kde?
[01:44] <x[BrB] x> can you help me?
[01:44] <Pyf> hi i just installed a secondary/slave hd how do i get ubuntu to detect it?
[01:44] <fadumpt> aftertaf, gnome
[01:44] <othernoob> does anyone have a nec nd2500A ?
[01:44] <bob2> hansi_xp: define "no sound"?
[01:44] <bob2> Pyf: it's already detected
[01:44] <CaiN_SA> aftertaf, i can but its annoying cos i have to delete that user from the group / shadow and passwd file :/
[01:44] <fadumpt> it's video files under mplayer
[01:44] <aftertaf> x[BrB] x:  in nautilus, do a drag n drop to Desktop, it should ask you if you want to make a shortcut.
[01:45] <Pyf> bob2, hw do i access it?
[01:45] <hansi_xp> bob2: no sound, in the cli it says audio: no sound, you press zero on the keyboard you can't move the volume slider at all
[01:45] <aftertaf> x[BrB] x:  OR... right click desktop, new shorcut to: and follow the next> button :D
[01:45] <bob2> hansi_xp: ignore that
[01:45] <bob2> hansi_xp: where does sound work?
[01:45] <bob2> Pyf: /msg ubotu ntfs
[01:45] <dealt> greetings
[01:45] <bpuccio> so what's the new place to get w32codecs?
[01:45] <hansi_xp> bob2: on a wmv file, mov file, and in xmms, general ubuntu
[01:46] <aftertaf> CaiN_SA:  hmm weird... uncle google come up with anything?
[01:46] <fadumpt> mplayer's site bpuccio
[01:46] <bpuccio> fadumpt: thanks!
[01:46] <bob2> hansi_xp: and with "mplayer -ao oss whatever.mp3"?
[01:46] <dealt> just a quick q: how can i tell apt to use proxy? im using 5.04 and /etc/apt/apt.conf doesnt exist
[01:46] <fadumpt> under downloads
[01:46] <hansi_xp> bob2: give me a second
[01:46] <aftertaf> dealt:  you create it;)
[01:47] <dealt> aftertaf: under /etc/apt or /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/?
[01:47] <Pyf> bob2, it might be formatted ntfs how do i format it to fat32?
[01:47] <aftertaf> dealt:  /etc/apt   > create apt.conf
[01:47] <aftertaf> dealt:  you know what t put?
[01:47] <bob2> Pyf: er, you want to delete everythogn on it?
[01:47] <Pyf> bob2, yeah tis fine
[01:48] <LethAL-Rocks> Pyf, You can't convert ntfs to FAT32 in Linux, use a Windows partitioner instead
[01:48] <dealt> aftertaf: ACQUIRE { ...} ?
[01:48] <LethAL-Rocks> Pyf, Well, I meant not without losing data ;)
[01:48] <hansi_xp> bob2: it doesn't work with -ao -oss but it does work with -ao -esd
[01:48] <bob2> Pyf: mkfs -t vfat /dev/whatever
[01:48] <Pyf> LethAL-Rocks,  i dont wanna convert, just format, is that possible?
[01:48] <aftertaf> dealt:  more or less..... 2 secs...
[01:48] <bob2> hansi_xp: then you didn't run "pkill esd"
[01:48] <fadumpt> aftertaf, here it is: [AO OSS]  audio_setup: Can't open audio device /dev/dsp: Device or resource busy
[01:48] <hansi_xp> bob2: whoops sorry dude
[01:48] <LethAL-Rocks> Pyf, Yeah, use GParted
[01:49] <aftertaf> dealt:  Acquire::http::Proxy "http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8090";; <--- my settings
[01:49] <fadumpt> ooh! how do I set the gui to use -ao -esd?
[01:49] <dealt> aftertaf: :) thanks
[01:49] <hansi_xp> bob2: okay -ao oss works now
[01:49] <bob2> dealt: now try a dvd
[01:49] <fadumpt> nevermind
[01:49] <fadumpt> thanks bob2
[01:49] <aftertaf> fadumpt:  better not using esd, afaik
[01:49] <bob2> bah
[01:49] <fadumpt> bob2 fixed my issue
[01:50] <bob2> hansi_xp: now try a dvd
[01:50] <hansi_xp> bob2: doesn't work yet
[01:50] <aftertaf> bah.. ;)
[01:50] <dealt> let me test this "thanks"
[01:50] <bob2> so, mysql users
[01:50] <iLLf8d> anyone have working colorschemes in vim in rxvt or some other term? seems they're hosed in debian and I was curious if they're hosed in ubuntu too?
[01:51] <dealt> i thought the "now try a dvd" was an auto-reply :)
[01:51] <bob2> how do I allow the account 'rob' to use the "mysql" command with a password?
[01:51] <bob2> (with mysql-4.1)
[01:51] <Yohohosfameron> bob2: grant access ?
[01:51] <ompaul> hansi_xp, mplayer gives a lot of helpful info such as --  Your system is too SLOW to play this! -- then it goes on to do stuff like explain what you might do do overcome this problem
[01:51] <ompaul> hansi_xp, read the output and try some of the stuff there
[01:52] <hansi_xp> ompaul: where dude? try what?
[01:52] <Yohohosfameron> oh, hang on, it's grant <<priveleges>> on db.* to username identified by password or something like that - should be documented on mysql.com
[01:52] <ompaul> hansi_xp, please be aware that I know very little about audio
[01:52] <dealt> aftertaf: should i restart any service after creating apt.conf, i assume there's none
[01:52] <bob2> Yohohosfameron: roc, thanks
[01:52] <ompaul> hansi_xp, start mplayer on the command line
[01:52] <aftertaf> dealt:  nope works straight after
[01:52] <hansi_xp> ompaul: my computer is a 1 ghz celeron. windows xp plays dvds no problems
[01:52] <hansi_xp> ompaul: i have been mplayer dvd:// -ao esd
[01:53] <hansi_xp> bob2: so what you reckon bob
[01:53] <hansi_xp> i know that i am dumb, but too dumb
[01:53] <hansi_xp> i don't think do
[01:53] <ompaul> hansi_xp, and read the output to yourself it might just give you the clue you need
[01:53] <ompaul> hansi_xp, in the terminal where you start it don't worry about the film first
[01:54] <x[BrB] x> bob2 can i user other irc rather than xchat??
[01:54] <apokryphos> x[BrB] x: there are many IRC clients
[01:54] <ompaul> x[BrB] x, you could use lots of them - there are many more clients than just many
[01:54] <apokryphos> x[BrB] x: irssi, gaim, kopete, konversation, kvirc, ksirc etc etc
[01:54] <fadumpt> irssi, BitchX
[01:55] <apokryphos> =)
[01:55] <hansi_xp> ompaul: do you want me just to type mplayer in the cli?
[01:55] <x[BrB] x> i like downloading mp3 and i find it hard using xchat
[01:55] <x[BrB] x> so what can you recommend guys?
[01:55] <x[BrB] x> thankws in advance
[01:55] <hansi_xp> what dude?
[01:55] <ompaul> hansi_xp,  yes with the command line and read the output it is very very helpful - as I said before I am not much good with sound but it is very very useful
[01:56] <apokryphos> x[BrB] x: kvirc, personally.
[01:56] <hansi_xp> b@ubuntu:~$ mplayer
[01:56] <hansi_xp> MPlayer 1.0pre6-3.3.5 (C) 2000-2004 MPlayer Team
[01:56] <hansi_xp> CPU: Intel Celeron 2/Pentium III Coppermine,Geyserville (Family: 6, Stepping: 10 )
[01:56] <hansi_xp> Detected cache-line size is 32 bytes
[01:56] <hansi_xp> MMX2 supported but disabled
[01:56] <hansi_xp> CPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 0 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 0
[01:56] <hansi_xp> Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX SSE
[01:56] <x[BrB] x> thanks :)
[01:56] <ompaul> x[BrB] x, well sirc or irssi for cli and xchat / ksirc for gui
[01:57] <ompaul> hansi_xp, okay - number 1 don't paste here
[01:57] <ompaul> hansi_xp, okay - number 2 use paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:57] <hansi_xp> ompaul: are you familiar with mplayer?
[01:58] <ompaul> hansi_xp, you were given command lines there a few moments ago - use them in the terminal and read the output - how hard is that - it gives lots of clues
[01:58] <hansi_xp> where did bob2 go?
[01:58] <puterfixer> greetings, ladies and gentlemen. I'm looking for some help on setting up my TV tuner, it's a KWorld V-Stream StudioTV Terminator, VS-LTV7131RF, with a Philips SAA7131 chip. I see the saa7134 module being loaded, but I don't think it's using the correct card and tuner number
[01:59] <puterfixer> so I'd need the list of cards and tuners supported by Ubuntu kernel, but I have no idea where to find it; I'm following some instructions from gentoo-wiki.com site.
[01:59] <hansi_xp> ompaul: would you like to see my output?
[02:00] <kelmo_lap> puterfixer: you need to modprobe saa7134 card=SOME_NUMBER
[02:00] <jannaa> Hi, im a fresh ubuntu user, and im wondering whats the default root pw is for ubuntu?
[02:00] <aftertaf> !tell jannaa about root
[02:00] <aftertaf> !tell jannaa about sudo
[02:00] <hansi_xp> there is no default root pw is there?
[02:00] <aftertaf> jannaa:  there isnt one, check those links
[02:00] <kelmo_lap> SOME_NUMBER is listed in the kernel documentation, can't remember exactly where though
[02:01] <hansi_xp> bob2: are you still there?
[02:01] <puterfixer> I know, kelmo_lap; I need the list of cards and tuners for the module, though :)
[02:01] <puterfixer> can't guess card=2 and tuner=17...
[02:01] <Whistler> i have installed rox using apt-get install rox-filer how do i log on to it?
[02:02] <nalioth> Whistler: open a terminal or go to applications > run application  and type "rox-filer"
[02:02] <thoreauputic> Whistler: you don't log on to a file manager :)
[02:02] <battletux> does anyone know a working backport for installing java?
[02:02] <nalioth> thoreauputic: dont be a prude
[02:03] <thoreauputic> prude? Is that the word you  were looking for?
[02:03] <BockBilbo> how do i do to make the beagle deamon start on boot in breezy?
[02:03] <fortnox> Hey everyone
[02:03] <Whistler> s***
[02:03] <Whistler> i wanted to install rox gui
[02:03] <Whistler> not file manager
[02:03] <kelmo_lap> puterfixer: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/video4linux/CARDLIST.saa7134
[02:03] <ompaul> hansi_xp, pastebin it and see what happens, I more than likely will not have any useful comment in which case you will nothing from me
[02:03] <housetier> #rox might be able to help
[02:03] <nalioth> Whistler: i dont think rox is offered in the repos
[02:04] <ompaul> s/will nothing/will see nothing/
[02:04] <apokryphos> hi fortnox =)
[02:04] <fortnox> :)
[02:04] <hansi_xp> ompaul: what is pastebin?
[02:04] <puterfixer> kelmo_lap, I looked there, but there's no linux in /usr/src
[02:05] <kelmo_lap> puterfixer: fecth it ; )
[02:05] <Seveas> !paste
[02:05] <ubotu> [paste]  please use http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:05] <kelmo_lap> fetch*
[02:05] <puterfixer> I guess I need to install the linux documentation or something, but don't know which package :)
[02:05] <Seveas> hansi_xp, ^==
[02:05] <kelmo_lap> puterfixer: you can always just get a massive tarball from kernel.org
[02:05] <ompaul> hansi_xp, I am now putting you on ignore, I told you that 3 minutes go - in over 10 years of IRC I have used ignor 5 times well done
[02:05] <jtholmes> puterfixer:  you want the kernel source package(s)
[02:05] <hansi_xp> ompaul: thanks dude
[02:06] <puterfixer> ok, what should I search for? I'm a noob...
[02:06] <Whistler> so rox GUI isnt aviable via apt-get?
[02:06] <battletux> Could someone give me a pointer to a repo with java please?
[02:06] <Pyf> hmmm using gparted ive converted the ntfs hd to fat32, how do i copy a file onto it say?
[02:06] <jtholmes> puterfixer: what release r u using
[02:06] <puterfixer> Hoary
[02:06] <giovann> why i cant save with my floppy ?
[02:07] <puterfixer> with all updates... kernel 2.6.10-5
[02:07] <thoreauputic> Whistler: not as far as I know - rox uses its own app install methods iirc
[02:07] <segosa> when's breezy gonna be final (and don't hit me if it's a common question =p)
[02:07] <jtholmes> puterfixer: hold on
[02:07] <Pyf> segosa, 18th octorber if my memory serves me
[02:07] <procrastinator> anyone knows why i don't have /dev/ircomm0 even though ircomm-module is loaded?
[02:07] <segosa> thanks.
[02:08] <ompaul> !breezy
[02:08] <fadumpt> !breezy
[02:08] <fadumpt> ?
[02:08] <segosa> how's that for a breeze :p
[02:08] <fadumpt> obotu yelled at me :(
[02:08] <segosa> !breezy
[02:08] <segosa> pfft
[02:08] <ompaul> segosa, the 13th think
[02:08] <ompaul> fadumpt, that is a message
[02:09] <fadumpt> !breezy
[02:09] <segosa> lol
[02:09] <ompaul> fadumpt, not a yell, yelling is CAPS :)
[02:09] <dealt> hi, is there a scp gui tool for gnome?
[02:09] <dealt> thanks
[02:09] <jtholmes> puterfixer: ok from cmd line    apt-cache search *kernel* that should give list of kernel pkgs avail
[02:09] <giovann> there is no paste in my floppy
[02:09] <Seveas> dealt, places -> connect to server
[02:09] <fadumpt> !fadumpt
[02:09] <ubotu> fadumpt: Do they come in packets of five?
[02:09] <fortnox> brb
[02:09] <CrTr> What is that port for  : 2628/tcp open  dict  ?
[02:09] <dealt> Seveas:thanks
[02:09] <dealt> :)
[02:09] <fadumpt> !fadumpt
[02:09] <ompaul> fadumpt, please do not play with the bot
[02:09] <fadumpt> :(
[02:10] <jtholmes> puterfixer: running suse 9.3 right now so can do it to see what comes back
[02:10] <fadumpt> kill my fun why dontcha
[02:10] <puterfixer> got the list in synaptic, trying to pick packages that seem interesting... docs, sources, things like that. thanks :)
[02:10] <ompaul> fadumpt, there are 411 people in the channel and it is not fair on them
[02:10] <jtholmes> puterfixer: ok anytime
[02:10] <Jowi> hi all, probs with fetchmail+sendmail+pop3. How do I resolve the error "SMTP error 552 message too large"?
[02:10] <CrTr> What is that port for  : 2628/tcp filtered   dict  ?
[02:10] <p0> Hello ! Have anyone tried to install oracle client?
[02:11] <Jowi> CrTr: man dict will give you best answer
[02:12] <smott> ./ut2004-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory .... hm what?
[02:12] <CrTr> there`s no info about dict
[02:12] <Jowi> CrTr: dict is a dictionary service.
[02:13] <CrTr> 10x
[02:13] <x[BrB] x> wht is ubuntu slackwave or debian?
[02:13] <CrTr> debian
[02:13] <x[BrB] x> thanks :)
[02:13] <giard> breezy question:  anyone else getting: Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.
[02:14] <CrTr> dpkg-reconfigure locales
[02:14] <giard> CrTr: thanks!
[02:14] <Jowi> CrTr: dict is running in the background listening for local applications that need the dictionary probably.
[02:15] <CrTr> how could I close that dict port ?
[02:15] <giard> CrTr: Should I choose the UTF-8 version or the other one?
[02:16] <Jowi> CrTr: shutdown dict itself is the most obvious way: killall dict
[02:16] <aleitner> Does anybody successfully use AFS on Hoary?
[02:16] <maswan> aleitner: yes.
[02:16] <aleitner> maswan: Do you use a 2.6 or 2.4 kernel?
[02:16] <maswan> aleitner: 2.6 kernel
[02:17] <Jowi> CrTr: for a more permanent solution: uninstall it :-)
[02:17] <aleitner> maswan: cool. how did you install it. i tried to build the kernel modules, but it failed
[02:17] <maswan> aleitner: you need a newer openafs than is shipped, unfortunately
[02:17] <aleitner> maswan: ahh, i see. how do i get that?
[02:18] <catfox> is there a way of having xinerama with a laptop, rather than just duplicating the screen through tv out?
[02:18] <aleitner> maswan: (or do you know if breezy will have it, cause maybe i just wait then)
[02:18] <maswan> aleitner: breezy hopefully, if ogra remembers to get it in.
[02:18] <aleitner> maswan: (;
[02:19] <ogra> maswan, i asked for a sync several times now... but somehow keep missing elmo... i wont forget it
[02:19] <maswan> ogra: thanks
[02:20] <CrTr> How could i see which programs are running at the moment ?
[02:20] <aleitner> ogra: thanks from me too
[02:20] <maswan> aleitner: hmm. here seems to be hoary compatible arla packaging. http://www.hpc2n.umu.se/staff/torkel/arla/Ubuntu/
[02:20] <aftertaf> CrTr:  type ps -A in a shell
[02:20] <Jowi> CrTr: ps -A
[02:20] <CrTr> 10q
[02:20] <maswan> aleitner: don't know if I have openafs around right now.
[02:21] <aleitner> maswan: interesting. is orla known to work well?
[02:21] <aleitner> maswan: erm, i mean arla
[02:22] <maswan> aleitner: well, we run it in production. it doesn't have a working afs server though, but the client seems to be doing well enough.
[02:23] <aleitner> maswan: i am only interested in the client part...
[02:23] <maswan> yeah, we run a mix of openafs and arla clients, mostly since arla was first with 2.6 support.
[02:23] <CrTr> what`s better .. filtered port or closed port ?
[02:25] <[LethAL] > CrTr, Stealthed
[02:25] <Jowi> CrTr: depends on what you want. "closed" is closed. not accessible. shut.
[02:26] <Jowi> CrTr: a stealthed port is still open, but is not so obvious about it.
[02:26] <Jowi> CrTr: a stealthed port can also be closed though.
[02:27] <puterfixer> terminology can be a little misleading, CrTr ... I think "closed" means that the remote system WILL return an ICMP package to say "this port is closed", while "stealth" will just ignore everything and not return any error messages, making the system look "stealth" or "black hole" or "invisible" or "non responsive"
[02:27] <Jowi> CrTr: that's sort of the whole point of stealthing them....
[02:28] <puterfixer> the port is closed in both situations, but the second method doesn't generate unnecessary traffic and doesn't reveal the presence of the system
[02:28] <bob2> if you're using the term "stealthing", you shouldn't be messing with firewalls at all
[02:28] <bob2> at least until you read about how networks actually work
[02:28] <CrTr> 10x alot
[02:30] <{cYanide}> hi
[02:30] <puterfixer> it's the same difference than "drop" and "reject" options for packet filtering in iptables. "drop" ignores a packet, "reject" also sends back a message - which you don't want to do.
[02:30] <{cYanide}> my glgears fullscreen is like 70 fps o_O, but in windows gl apps are way fast
[02:30] <{cYanide}> i have a er
[02:30] <bob2> ignore glxgears
[02:30] <{cYanide}> Intel 845GV in this pc
[02:30] <Jowi> bob2: well, "stealth" is a common word to use. Even if it is not the 100% correct one, heh
[02:30] <selinium_> is there part a apt-get command that installs the recommended packes aswell?
[02:30] <bob2> Jowi: in windows-land maybe
[02:30] <{cYanide}> in windows, it runs pretty well, but im thinking i can update drivers and that should speed it up in ubuntu but im not sure how
[02:30] <bob2> selinium_: that's what (among other things) aptitude is dfor
[02:30] <Jowi> bob2: in internet-land
[02:30] <bob2> apt-get was a demo program for libapt
[02:31] <pc22> how do i edit grub?
[02:31] <bob2> Jowi: no actual network person I've ever met has used that term
[02:31] <BockBilbo> hello
[02:31] <bob2> pc22: to do what?
[02:31] <Seveas> selinium_, it's a commadn-line option
[02:31] <BockBilbo> pc22, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:31] <Seveas> like --with-recommends
[02:31] <bob2> Seveas: depends on your version of apt
[02:31] <BockBilbo> any of you know where does ubuntu have the default icon set at?
[02:31] <Seveas> bob2, true... but afaik hoary had it already
[02:32] <pc22> my comp is dual os
[02:32] <bob2> Seveas: doesn't appear to for me
[02:32] <bob2> not in the manpage or help output, anyway
[02:32] <pc22> i dont want to see my microsoft. i just want to put a dot
[02:32] <Jowi> bob2: i use it because i've been dealing with actual end-users. "how do i stealth?" is a very common question if you are or have been in tech-support for network products - including Cisco believe it or not.
[02:32] <bob2> hah, wow
[02:33] <selinium_> Seveas, bob2, I thinkyou are getting me wrong, when installing via apt-get it installs the dependentcies and also shows you recommended installs. But it does not install these recommended files. I could not find a flag that would do this, is it possible?
[02:33] <puterfixer> yeah, some software firewalls also use the "stealth" word, I guess it sounds good for marketing.
[02:33] <Seveas> selinium, at least aptitude has it in hoary
[02:33] <bob2> selinium_: yes, we understood you
[02:33] <Seveas> but i thought apt-get too (aooarently i was wrong)
[02:33] <dzik_24> Hello to all
[02:33] <Jowi> hello dzik_24
[02:34] <pc22> BockBilbo, how do i save?
[02:34] <puterfixer> "my ports are stealth, I am the undercover invisible supergeek of the network, mwahahahaha"
[02:34] <BockBilbo> pc22 ctrl+o
[02:34] <Seveas> puterfixer, don't be a gibson in here...
[02:35] <selinium_> Seveas bob2: This is one of those conversations I wish was on a telephone! I thought aptitude was the same as apt-get?
[02:35] <puterfixer> sorry mate :)
[02:35] <dzik_24> I have problem with my SB Audigy NX
[02:35] <Seveas> selinium_, they are both frontends to apt
[02:35] <Pyf> ive mounted a new hard disk i just installed, but when i try to copy files to it i dont have permission, have i done something wrong?
[02:35] <Seveas> aptitude is more powerful
[02:35] <pc22> i will try now thanks
[02:35] <sipior> daft question, but i can't seem to find the answer in any man pages: how does one list the files provided by a given package?
[02:35] <dzik_24> I can't hear anything from my back speakers
[02:35] <sipior> i seem to remember doing this in debian, years ago...
[02:36] <dzik_24> Only the front speakers are working
[02:36] <x[BrB] x> how can i install automake
[02:36] <dzik_24> Help ME plz
[02:36] <Antioch> Does Ubuntu have ATI support yet?
[02:36] <BockBilbo> Antioch, yes
[02:36] <CrTr> E: Couldn't find package xchm   : It has another name ?
[02:36] <Antioch> BockBilbo I've been away from linux for a while - since when has ATI support been solved?
[02:37] <BockBilbo> Antioch, well... the support isnt built in ubuntu
[02:37] <Nermal> dzik_24, check mixer
[02:37] <Antioch> Drivers finally came out?
[02:37] <BockBilbo> you need to install the propietary ati drivers
[02:37] <selinium_> Seveas, Another cog falls into place!
[02:37] <Nermal> try aumix
[02:37] <Antioch> Did ATI finally release Xorg drivers?
[02:37] <BockBilbo> Antioch, yes
[02:38] <Antioch> Thank goodness
[02:38] <Antioch> =)
[02:38] <dzik_24> I checked it and I don't have output for back speakers
[02:38] <BockBilbo> igoota go brb
[02:38] <CrTr> E: Couldn't find package xchm   ; Does it have another name or .. ?
[02:39] <x[BrB] x> how to install automake
[02:40] <Seveas> !info xchm
[02:40] <ubotu> xchm: (Compiled HTML Help (CHM) file viewer for X), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.7-1ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 212 kB, Installed size: 812 kB
[02:40] <Seveas> CrTr, enable universe...
[02:41] <sipior> x[BrB] x: doesn't apt-get install automake work?
[02:42] <CrTr> Seveas, if I enable universe there are some errors ..
[02:42] <CrTr> Packages in this component are not supported
[02:45] <selinium_> Seveas: sorry, i wissed the --with-recommends thing! Cheers for that!
[02:47] <selinium_> sorry bob2 I didn't see the discussion going on about --with-recommends :) DOh!
[02:51] <x[BrB] x> how to install automake
[02:51] <x[BrB] x> i cant isntall it :(
[02:52] <bob2> x[BrB] x: why do you want it?
[02:52] <bob2> x[BrB] x: and you need to know which version you need
[02:53] <x[BrB] x> i need it to kvirc :)
[02:53] <bob2> kvirc is in ubunt
[02:53] <bob2> kvirc - Fully scriptable graphical IRC client with plugin support
[02:53] <x[BrB] x> so how can i install that?
[02:54] <bob2> x[BrB] x: sudo aptitude install kvirc
[02:54] <x[BrB] x> i think i'll have a hard time here downloading mp3 :)
[02:54] <bob2> or with whatever package manager you normally use
[02:55] <mpt> Somehow I ended up with two copies of gnome-panel running, the second of which puts up an error alert of the form "I've detected a panel already running, and will now exit", but then is restarted as soon as it exits. Logging out and logging in again still gives me two gnome-panels. Even using the terminal to kill both of them at once doesn't work, as both come back. How can I vanquish one of them permanently?
[02:55] <x[BrB] x> bob2 how can i go and make a shortcut on my download folder?
[02:56] <bob2> mpt: system -> prefereneces -> session, maybe
[02:56] <bob2> (hi)
[02:56] <Jowi> mpt: have a look in gnome-session-properties to see if you've got two panels there. if so remove one of them.
[02:56] <mpt> hi bob2
[02:57] <mpt> this is where I wish preferences tools had an Edit menu so I could copy and paste
[02:57] <aftertaf> x[BrB] x:  didnt you see my answer an hour ago?
[02:58] <x[BrB] x> no aftertaf
[02:58] <x[BrB] x> :(
[02:59] <mpt> bob2, Jowi: thanks, that worked
[02:59] <x[BrB] x> bob2 whats next?
[02:59] <Antioch> hmph... even thought xorg drivers came out, I guess ati in linux is a bit of a dream still
[03:00] <bob2> x[BrB] x: all done
[03:00] <bob2> I don't understand your shortcut question, but you have kvirc now
[03:00] <imterro> hi....]
[03:00] <imterro> is there a command to check the pc temp?
[03:01] <bob2> it's hardware specific, sadly
[03:02] <imterro> hmm.... so how would i go about finding out such things?
[03:04] <dealt> hi just a quick q: wat does CVS: login failed?
[03:04] <dealt> means?
[03:04] <dealt> how do i configure cvs client?
[03:04] <robotgeek> dealt: just try again
[03:04] <mpt> imterro: is there a "digitemp" package in universe? (it's in debian)
[03:05] <imterro> ill check now
[03:05] <imterro> apparently not
[03:06] <mpt> narf
[03:06] <Jowi> !info digitemp
[03:06] <ubotu> digitemp: (Program to read from temperature sensors in a 1-Wire net), section universe/electronics, is optional. Version: 3.3.2-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 109 kB, Installed size: 376 kB
[03:06] <Jowi> :)O
[03:07] <imterro> bleh it didnt show up when i searched for it on aptitude
[03:07] <dealt> robotgeek:thanks
[03:08] <lifeless> jdub says sorry, his net is down
[03:08] <imterro> hmm stil doesnt show up....
[03:08] <imterro> odd
[03:09] <imterro> although i did find the following
[03:09] <imterro> libsensors-dev - Lm-sensors development kit
[03:09] <imterro> libsensors3 - Library to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors
[03:09] <imterro> lm-sensors - Utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors
[03:09] <imterro> sensord - Hardware sensor information logging daemon
[03:09] <imterro> phpsysinfo - PHP Based Host Information
[03:09] <KriS83> Hi
[03:09] <battletux> hi all
[03:09] <Seveas> NEVER paste in here
[03:10] <Seveas> there are pastebins for that
[03:10] <nightswim> and rubbish bins
[03:10] <puterfixer> bah, I downloaded like 30 megs of docs and still didn't get what I wanted.
[03:11] <DewDude> oooh....i now have BitlBee and CGI:IRC running on this little box
[03:11] <Seveas> hi jdub :)
[03:12] <imterro> sorry about that
[03:12] <jdub> GOOD MORNING FREEDOM LOVERS!
[03:12] <kevor> b
[03:12] <aftertaf> jdub:  Arr matey
[03:12] <bob2> Seveas: I'd think /remove would be better than banning someone
[03:13] <Seveas> bob2, it's not a ban
[03:13] <Seveas> it's a +q
[03:13] <bob2> yes, I know
[03:13] <Seveas> the new freenode servers just show it as bans
[03:14] <bob2> alriiighty then
[03:15] <battletux> why is sun-j2re1.5 always disappering from the repos?
[03:15] <apokryphos> battletux: legal issues
[03:16] <battletux> really? what a pain in the butt
[03:17] <apokryphos> battletux: Indeed. Currently you'll either have to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions or be on Breezy, unfortunately.
[03:17] <reiki_work> so is there a correct method of getting j2re from Sun and installing it properly in Ubuntu? (I admit I haven't looked at the wiki yet on that question)
[03:17] <reiki_work> answered while asking.... you guys are psychic
[03:17] <Seveas> reiki_work, yes there is, th wiki explains it
[03:17] <battletux> apokryphos: i just got rid of breezy arghh!
[03:18] <battletux> wiki it is then
[03:18] <tylo> hello fellows
[03:18] <apokryphos> aloha =)
[03:18] <battletux> hi
[03:19] <mik3> is there a command i can use to see all the applications i've installed?
[03:19] <apokryphos> mik3: dpkg -l
[03:19] <apokryphos> mik3: will list all installed packages
[03:19] <Seveas> dpkg --get-selections
[03:20] <afaik> is security.debian.org down!?
[03:20] <WebLOCH> oreet everyone
[03:21] <bob2> neither of those show what mik3 asked for
[03:21] <WebLOCH> Seveas, how are you doing today?
[03:21] <WebLOCH> morning bob2 !
[03:21] <bob2> mik3: "dpkg -l | grep ^ii" or "dpkg --get-selections | grep installed$"
[03:21] <WebLOCH> I am back with yet more entertaining problems
[03:22] <Seveas> bob2, grep -v deinstalled ;)
[03:23] <Seveas> ;)
[03:23] <WebLOCH> hahaha
[03:23] <WebLOCH> I have some Java based problems
[03:23] <WebLOCH> You'd love to help me
[03:23] <Seveas> WebLOCH, how did you install java
[03:24] <WebLOCH> unfortunately, I have installed the JDK using a binary
[03:24] <WebLOCH> it was netbeans + jdk
[03:24] <Seveas> dang :\
[03:24] <WebLOCH> however I have come to realise that it didnt register the JRE on my system
[03:24] <Seveas> you should use make-jpkg with those binaries...
[03:24] <battletux> apokryphos: Wiki helped with installing java thanks :)
[03:24] <WebLOCH> wassat ?
[03:24] <Hoxzer> can somebody help me to use direct connect?
[03:24] <Seveas> WebLOCH, remove whatever it installed
[03:24] <apokryphos> excellent
[03:24] <Seveas> and apt-get install java-package
[03:24] <phlax> hi - does anyone know the status of the ltmodem driver in breezy - it says its supposed to be in the linux-restricted-mods packages - but its not there?
[03:25] <WebLOCH> is java-package the Sun setup ?
[03:25] <Seveas> WebLOCH, it can create debs from sun bin files
[03:25] <WebLOCH> oh
[03:25] <Seveas> look at wiki.ubuntu.com/Java for details
[03:25] <bob2> phlax: find it on packages.ubuntu.co
[03:25] <battletux> WebLOCH: follow the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions but goto www.java.com for the .bin download
[03:26] <WebLOCH> battletux, Seveas,  I am following that guyide now, but how do I uninstall the bin i have already installed?
[03:27] <phlax> bob2: thanx - ill take a look
[03:27] <battletux> pass, proberbly
[03:29] <WebLOCH> Seveas - Is there a way to remove the bin installation or do I simply delete the program folders?
[03:32] <WebLOCH> anyone about ?
[03:32] <WebLOCH> Am I still connected?
[03:32] <aftertaf> lol....
[03:32] <Seveas> WebLOCH, install /usr/local/java or wherever it installed
[03:33] <Seveas> WebLOCH,*remove* /usr/local/java or wherever it installed
[03:33] <WebLOCH> okay
[03:33] <aftertaf> in cyberspacenoone can hear you scream, when you peer disconnect anyway
[03:33] <WebLOCH> Seveas, I sometimes use command line and other times use netbeans, is it possible to install both the JRE and JDK
[03:33] <WebLOCH> (i know the JDK has a version of the JRE bundled)
[03:37] <phlax> bob2: no the lrm packages listed on packages.ubu... are out of date and the only one in the repositories is the version i have (wout ltmodem)
[03:45] <battletux> is it safe to assume that the disapperance of w32codecs is due to legal reasons too?
[03:48] <Echelon-H> is there a program to edit MP3 information?
[03:48] <robotgeek> Echelon-H: easytag
[03:48] <battletux> sudo apt-get install easytag
[03:49] <Echelon-H> thx
[03:53] <battletux> does anyone know a source for w32codecs for hoary?
[03:53] <Nermal> aye
[03:53] <Nermal> hmm.. no ibot
[03:54] <reiki_work> if I've already pulled down the w32 codecs... is my system storing the package or do they get purged from time to time
[03:55] <Nermal> storing it
[03:55] <aftertaf> reiki_work:  check in /var/cache/apt
[03:55] <Nermal> in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[03:55] <aftertaf> ubotu:  tell battletux about restricted
[03:55] <reiki_work> aftertaf: okies... at work at the moment but I'll look when I get home to see how much space that stuff is taking up. :)
[03:56] <Nermal> battletux, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUserGuideMultimedia?highlight=%28w32codecs%29#head-555ae0b86e1dd8f327d8c042589100b9d889fcb6
[03:56] <aftertaf> reiki_work:  hehe... but when yopu update, it updates part of the package, not a full d/l of each package each time.......
[03:57] <Echelon-H> what's the command to change permission?
[03:57] <kemik> chmod
[03:57] <battletux> aftertaf, nermal: thanks all i know is that it worked on the repos yesterday
[03:57] <djtansey> is there a way change the method gnu/linux/ubuntu allocates memory to swap? I just upgraded to 1.25GB of ram and want things to stay in memory as long as possible.
[03:59] <Nermal> djtansey, erm... thats fine.. I presume you are running a 686 kernel though to get high memory support ?
[03:59] <aftertaf> battletux:  you can get it IIRC on the mplayer homepage...
[04:00] <battletux> aftertaf, odd i already have restricted et all in the backports, but it just comes up that the package is not availalble
[04:00] <bob2> dj	the kernel almost certainly knows better than you
[04:00] <Nermal> bob2, I was thinking the same
[04:00] <bob2> djtansey: /proc/sys/vm/swappiness lets you influence it, tho, if oyu insist
[04:01] <Nermal> oooh
[04:01] <selinium> oooh!
[04:01] <djtansey> Nermal: yes, i am.
[04:03] <djtansey> bob2: probably... just don't know how quickly it moves things to swap. I upgraded to 1.25 so I could stop worrying about openoffice or something that has been in the background all day taking forever to come out of swap.
[04:03] <mypapit> hey guys..
[04:03] !lilo:*! A momentary bit of senility will now ensue for [freenode-hints]  and freenode-connect's VERSION request. Please bear with us.
[04:03] <markrian> I'm having problems with gnome-screensaver activating whilst I'm still actively using the machine - moving the mouse etc.. Anyone else having that problem?
[04:04] <mypapit> suddenly i lost all my menu icons in ubuntu 5.04 (GNOME) ... i dont know why... anybody know about this?
[04:04] <selinium> Anyone know of a decent mysql admin app other than phpmyadmin?
[04:04] <markrian> (Obviously I'm using breezy)
[04:04] <ORiON2012> selinium: mysql-admin
[04:04] <ORiON2012> selinium: :)
[04:04] <ORiON2012> selinium: GTK based
[04:04] <bob2> djtansey: there are people who basically work full time on tuning the algorithm that decides when to swap stuff out
[04:05] <selinium> ORiON2012, ROFL, I'll take a look!
[04:05] <zack> markrian: i've seen it once before on my X41, but not since
[04:05] <bob2> markrian: do file a bug
[04:05] <djtansey> bob2: very well, then. i will trust you and the kernel. thanks for the info, thoguh.
[04:06] <nygma> i'm trying to configure my onboard realtek alc880 sound device... i have a asus 95gpl motherboard and am running horary
[04:06] <nygma> any idea how to ?
[04:06] <ORiON2012> nygma: configure in what way?
[04:07] <Atarax> Hello
[04:07] <bob2> djtansey: the kernel sometimes decides the perforance gain from having more disk cache outweighs the potential cost of swapping back in bits of openoffice
[04:07] <nygma> as in get sound to play frm the speakers ;)...currently i have no sound output
[04:07] <bob2> (i nthe case you're asking about)
[04:08] <zack> as i understand it OOo's startup has less to do with disk swapping and more to do with actual processing
[04:08] <zack> in which case the only way to make it start up faster is to not quit it in the first place
[04:09] <nygma> basically i got fed up with xp so i switched to linux..managed to get everything setup properly with no hassles except sound
[04:09] <nygma> have no idea how to get alsa or esd to work
[04:10] <nygma> so any one have any clue how to proceed ?
[04:10] <twoSharp> nygma: have you checked alsamixer?
[04:11] !lilo:*! FYI, the VERSION command is per http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#freenodeconnect .... this utility had not been running due to the hyperion upgrade, and we're just putting it back online. It seemed a good time to do a complete stats run and clonebot check, and while some of you will have seen the message twice, this should be the last time you get one (other than at connect) for a while.
[04:11] <Jowi> djtansey: sorry for getting in late in the discussion. I set my swappiness to 10 which suit my system well. a good intro to the swappiness behaviour and how to change it can be found here (scroll down for swappiness): http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_Linux_Memory_Management
[04:11] <nygma> in wht way...i have no idea abt alsamixer...complete linux noob :(
[04:11] <ORiON2012> nygma: try an "sudo lspci", is your card detected?
[04:12] <Jowi> oh, he quit :-/
[04:12] <Jowi> heh
[04:13] <Jowi> i think that means its time for a coffee
[04:13] <nygma> nope, it detects the graphics card, processor, ethernet controller and usb, sATA, IDE controllers
[04:14] <twoSharp> nygma: open terminal and write "alsamixer" then press enter ;) and then you use the arrows to navigate trough the output/input channels
[04:14] <ORiON2012> nygma: realtek offers drivers for your ACL880   http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/dlhd-2.aspx?lineid=2004052&famid=2004052&series=2004061&Software=True
[04:15] <ORiON2012> nygma: I can't actually find if anything in the official kernel supports that chipset
[04:15] <zack> nygma: what kernel are you on?
[04:17] <zack> nygma: i think 2.6.12 supports it. the module is called 'snd-hda-intel'
[04:17] <nygma> i'm on a <IP_ADDRESS>-386
[04:17] <zack> try 'modprobe snd-hda-intel' anyway
[04:18] <nygma> btw alsamixer threw an error : alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[04:18] <nygma> how do i upgrade the kernel ?
[04:18] <zack> nygma: did you try loading the module?
[04:18] <nygma> synpatic shows no upgrades ?
[04:19] <puff> Morning... ubuntu is failing to bring up gnome fully... I get the login screen, log in, get the plain brown background and blank white menu bars across the top and bottom, and then it displays a "Cannot bring up HAL" popup.  Click "OK" and the popup goes away, and gnome still doesn't finish coming up.
[04:19] <pitti> puff: argh, that again?
[04:19] <puff> pitti: YeaH?
[04:19] <nygma> not found :(..hopefully the realtek drivers will fix the problem
[04:19] <pitti> puff: please upgrade to the latest breezy dbus and reboot
[04:19] <puff> I hit ctl-alt-f1 to ssh out to login.
[04:20] <puff> Er, to login and ssh out to an account where I can run an irc client :-)./
[04:20] <puff> pitti: Breezy dbus?
[04:20] <pitti> puff: erm, or are you using hoary?
[04:20] <puff> hoary.
[04:20] <pitti> puff: ah, ok
[04:20] <pitti> puff: that's an entirely different bug then
[04:20] <zack> nygma: those drivers are for 2.2.14, i wouldn't even bother
[04:20] <pitti> puff: breezy preview had a nasty dbus bug
[04:20] <puff> issuing reboot as root didn't reboot, had to finally hold down the power switch... same thing happened again, so here I am.
[04:21] <pitti> puff: please try the current daily breezy live CD in that case, can you?
[04:21] <nygma> so then what do i do ?
[04:21] <zack> nygma: if you upgrade to breezy, it should work.
[04:21] <zack> then again, that in itself might be frustrating.
[04:21] <puff> Weird... gnome just chuckled at me, so I hit alt-f7 and now I have the desktop background and icons, but no menu bars :-).
[04:21] <nygma> breezy stable enough yet ?
[04:22] <zack> it has been quite good here
[04:22] <ORiON2012> nygma: relatively, still lots of updates going on
[04:22] <puff> pitti: Is there a good mailing list for ubuntu beginners?
[04:23] <zack> oh, which type of 'stable' did you mean?
[04:23] <sproingie> occasional calamitous need to fix xorg.conf aside, breezy's pretty stable for me
[04:23] <pitti> puff: ubuntu-users is meant for user support, but it is high traffic
[04:23] <nygma> stable as in 24X7 non crash
[04:23] <pitti> puff: many folks prefer the forum
[04:23] <waterbaby999> can anyone recommend a good dvd player? used to use ogle under redhat/fedora...anything better?
[04:23] <ORiON2012> sproingie: I don't get it, been running since Colony CD 1 and I've never had X break
[04:24] <pitti> puff: www.ubuntuforums.org
[04:24] <x[BrB] x> bob2 how can i set my computer not to go idle?
[04:24] <puff> pitti: Is there a mailing list gateway?
[04:24] <sproingie> ORiON2012: lucky you.  the font path thing was deadly right from the start.  ATI cards also have the fglrx driver conflict with another module, so that has to be commented out
[04:24] <zack> nygma: hard to say, i have some very new hardware not supported by hoary - i expect a few crashes.
[04:24] <ORiON2012> waterbaby999: VLC and XINE both have menu support, mplayer if you don't care about fancy full motion menus
[04:25] <sproingie> ORiON2012: a shutdown still locks something up
[04:25] <zack> waterbaby999: try totem-xine.
[04:25] <pitti> puff: yes
[04:25] <zack> nice and easy
[04:25] <puff> pitti: Cool.
[04:25] <ablyss> l'o all
[04:25] <waterbaby999> ahh i need to have menus for these dvd's really
[04:26] <sproingie> nygma: you want 24x7 reliability, you want a tandem.  otherwise, depends on what sort of thing you're expecting it to do
[04:26] <x[BrB] x> how can i set my computer not to go idle? after a long time inactivity
[04:27] <nygma> actually was looking at more like stability like no unexpected fatal crashes (windows style :-) )
[04:27] <k31th> power settings'
[04:27] <Mez> anyone know how to turn off the tap to click on a laptop?
[04:27] <ORiON2012> nygma: I'm using it as my LAN's file, print, mythtv, backup server for a while with no random crashes
[04:28] <x[BrB] x> k3lth where can i find that?
[04:28] <puff> How do I list the original windows partition on this machine?
[04:28] <nygma> anyway, can anyone point me to a good resource for configuring sound on linux
[04:28] <k31th> api i think
[04:28] <k31th> might be some where in gnome
[04:28] <sproingie> nygma: kernel panics or hard lockups?  pretty unlikely.  individual apps crashing?  perhaps, depends what you use
[04:28] <puff> I want to copy the data I put on this drive to the original windows partition, do a fresh ubuntu install, then copy it back over to the ubuntu partition.
[04:29] <x[BrB] x> if im downloading a file from irc then my computer has benn inactive will my downloading stops???
[04:29] <nygma> individual apps crashing is expected...what i wouldn't want is another parition table screwup, my bro managed to screw the mbr and partitions when he was fiddling round with xp...don't want anything like that happening ever again
[04:30] <ORiON2012> nygma: as per this page (http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/materiel/chipset_intel_hda_realtek) it appears you need the 1.0.9 alsa drivers which aren't included in hoary, so you can compile yourself or upgrade to breezy
[04:30] <p0windah> msg seveas username:password for freenx repository ?
[04:30] <p0windah> I say, oops
[04:30] <waterbaby999> yeah, totem is installed .. do i need to do anything else to allow it to play dvd's at all ?
[04:30] <ORiON2012> nygma: in frenh but you get the idea
[04:31] <Phily> Any xchat guru here?
[04:31] <nygma> yep, small question how do i go about upgrading via snaptic ?
[04:31] <nygma> synaptic i mean
[04:31] <waterbaby999> hehe, i use xchat but wouldnt proclaim to be an expert
[04:31] <sproingie> nygma: that's something a bleeding edge kernel would do ... breezy uses stable kernels afaik, so you're safe
[04:32] <sproingie> nygma: of course since linus now considers the stable kernel branch to be the playground of developers, there really is no "stable" 2.6 kernel now, just older ones
[04:32] <ORiON2012> nygma: change you /etc/apt/sources.list to read "breezy" instead of "hoary" then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:32] <puff> pitti: For reference, this is a thinkpad t43p, and it seemed fairly stable for the first month or so.  I can't pin-point when problems started, but I attempted to apt-get linux-686 shortly before things started getting wacky.
[04:33] <Phily> waterbaby999, do you know how to set a keyb shortcut to change tabs
[04:34] <x[BrB] x> if im downloading a file from irc then my computer has benn inactive will my downloading stops???
[04:34] <waterbaby999> Settings>advanced>keyboard shortcuts?
[04:35] <ORiON2012> x[BrB] x: inactive as in hibernating, or just the monitor is off?
[04:35] <x[BrB] x> so you mean it wont affect my downloading
[04:35] <waterbaby999> urrrrrrrrrrgh why do people insist on using realplayer
[04:35] <waterbaby999> WHYYYYYYY
[04:36] <tristanmike> it's quaint
[04:36] !lilo:*! hints and freenode-connect should be through playing catch-up, thank you for your patience!
[04:36] <Phily> waterbaby999, theirs an option to move the tab order but not swithc from one to the other unless I dont understant
[04:36] <ORiON2012> x[BrB] x: no, as long as it doesn't go into some sort of power saving mode
[04:36] <x[BrB] x> orion2012 how can i check on that??
[04:36] <waterbaby999> have u tried asking around on xchat.org and the xchat irc room?
[04:37] <ORiON2012> x[BrB] x: if you hear the fans turn off on your computer... ?
[04:37] <ablyss> where do I report bugs in breezy ?
[04:37] <Phily> waterbaby999, im on xchat channel now but its a graveyard now
[04:37] <waterbaby999> aww, maybe wait till laters :)
[04:37] <waterbaby999> someone might know, i dont unfortunately :)
[04:37] <ORiON2012> ablyss: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
[04:37] <ablyss> also where do I report security holes in all versions of ubuntu?
[04:38] <ORiON2012> ablyss: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/
[04:38] <ablyss> ty
[04:38] <tamarack> hi
[04:38] <ablyss> saved to bookmarks
[04:38] <tamarack> has anyone figured out what happened to j2re and w32codecs in the repos?
[04:38] <x[BrB] x> coz everytime i left my computer when i came back it ask me for a password
[04:38] <tamarack> they're still missing
[04:39] <x[BrB] x> thats y i just want to make sure of it :)
[04:39] <Robinho_Peixoto> when it goes to happen the string frezer
[04:39] <ORiON2012> x[BrB] x: that's just a screensave, just because the monitor powers down doesn't mean the computer does too
[04:39] <clem_yeats> tamarack : which repos ? This are non-free..
[04:39] <clem_yeats> s/this/these/eg;
[04:39] <tamarack> I think they were in backports or extras
[04:39] <x[BrB] x> ok thanks :)
[04:39] <tamarack> of which I have both
[04:39] <clem_yeats> hmm... ok.
[04:39] <tamarack> I've seen some mentions of other people on the forums having the same issue
[04:40] <tamarack> they just disappeared maybe yesterday or the day before
[04:40] <tamarack> and I just did a fresh install on my laptop :(
[04:40] <tamarack> heh
[04:41] <narkceh> Whats the problem with my sources.list? I cannot install azureus, w32codecs, java? http://pastebin.com/368042
[04:41] <apokryphos> narkceh: they were taken out of hoary-extras
[04:41] <apokryphos> narkceh: legal issues.
[04:41] <tamarack> heh
[04:41] <tamarack> well there's someone with the same problem
[04:42] <tamarack> they're missing from the repositories
[04:42] <tamarack> oh
[04:42] <tamarack> doh
[04:42] <narkceh> apokryphos: dammit. how can i install those than?
[04:42] <tamarack> pardon me :)
[04:42] <waterbaby999> do i need to get some codecs and whatnot to play mpegs and mp3s/dvd's/etcetcetc?
[04:43] <apokryphos> narkceh: azureus, you can use the pack from their website; w32codecs isn't really available, and java: either https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions or upgrade to breezy
[04:44] <Hajuu> Hi
[04:44] <d2dchat_> how do i setup my wireless?
[04:45] <tamarack> D2DChat, depends on your card
[04:45] <tamarack> the chipset that is
[04:45] <d2dchat_> how can i look that up?
[04:45] <[LethAL] > d2dchat_, Which card is it?
[04:45] <Hajuu> Um.. I used to use a generic sound blaster sound card... It had some really wierd name with numbers and stuff but used pretty much any standard creative drivers.. Um.. Just upgraded to a soundblaster live... it automatically picked it up and installed some drivers and *was* working.. Then I had my mic throughput turned on so I went into mixer settings and disabled it and it made this really high pitch squeel through the speakers and th
[04:45] <narkceh> apokryphos: well. thanks.
[04:45] <Hajuu> en I restarted and now I have no sound at all and nothing is detecting my card :/ any ideas?
[04:46] <d2dchat_> Its a linksys i believe
[04:46] <tamarack> D2DChat, what's the brand name?
[04:46] <tamarack> ah
[04:46] <[LethAL] > Model number?
[04:46] <tamarack> do a google search on the model number
[04:46] <[LethAL] > ^^
[04:47] <tamarack> I think linksys uses their own chipset
[04:47] <tamarack> you might have to use ndiswrapper with your windows drivers to get it to work
[04:47] <nygma> hello, can someone tell me how to upgrade from horary to breezy via synaptic (if that is possible)
[04:47] <tamarack> nygma: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:47] <sproingie> nygma: replace hoary with breezy in sources.list, then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:48] <Hajuu> Anyone? :(
[04:48] <tamarack> heh, yah that part too
[04:48] <d2dchat_> its hard to look in there lol
[04:48] <anatole> okt 1
[04:48] <anatole> wooo
[04:48] <tamarack> do you still have the box the card came in?
[04:48] <anatole> not here
[04:48] <anatole> :D
[04:48] <tamarack> or the manual?
[04:49] <tamarack> is it a G card?
[04:49] <ORiON2012> nygma: click settings->repositories->edit each one, replace "hoary" with "breezy".  click reload, mark all upgrades and you're done
[04:49] <Hajuu> how do I start alsa from the commandline?
[04:49] <d2dchat_> its a G
[04:49] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell nygma about upgrade2breezy
[04:49] <tamarack> did you check under System -> Administration -> Networking?
[04:49] <sproingie> Hajuu: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[04:49] <tamarack> your card might already be working
[04:50] <d2dchat_> i only have eth0
[04:50] <Hajuu> if there was something wrong with my drivers or something, alsa should fail to start or error or something yeah?
[04:50] <tamarack> and I'm assuming that's your wired interface?
[04:50] <d2dchat_> yes
[04:50] <d2dchat_> Ethernet
[04:50] <tamarack> k
[04:51] <tamarack> well get ndiswrapper from synaptic
[04:51] <d2dchat_> utils?
[04:51] <puff> How friendly is the breezy install?
[04:52] <puff> Er, how upgrade-friendly?  I have data on this machine that I want to keep.
[04:52] <tamarack> the upgrade went well for me
[04:52] <tamarack> D2DChat, yes
[04:52] <puff> Hm.
[04:53] <Red_Bullet> please help me how to stat perl irc bot ?
[04:53] <puff> So I guess I could download & build a breezy CD.
[04:53] <Red_Bullet> does aybody knows about perl irc bot ?
[04:53] <d2dchat_> why is it asking for the cd rom?
[04:54] <tamarack> it's on the cdrom I believe :-)
[04:54] <avalost> Red_Bullet: why 'perl' sepcifically?
[04:54] <brrrt> hello all
[04:54] <d2dchat_> shit i dont it with me right on?
[04:54] <d2dchat_> wow
[04:54] <d2dchat_> i didnt understand what i said
[04:54] <d2dchat_> i dont have it with me
[04:54] <d2dchat_> the cd
[04:54] <tamarack> lol
[04:54] <brrrt> does anyone know how to mount a mac os 9 harddisk on a i386 ubuntu?=
[04:54] <FallenOne> can anyone help me?
[04:55] <puff> brrrt: Hello.  No, I don't.
[04:55] <p0windah> hey I just installed seveas freenx stuff, and it all works good. except fonts arent being rendered...
[04:55] <d2dchat_> why isn't there a place online to get it
[04:55] <puff> FallenOne:  Depends on what your problem is, but lots of people are helpful here, ask and see.
[04:55] <tamarack> actually, it may be in the hoary extras repositories
[04:55] <Red_Bullet> avalost: i dont know how to start perl bot
[04:55] <avalost> p0windah: unicode?
[04:55] <tamarack> I don't remember
[04:55] <FallenOne> Well , i left the password field blank at the intall and now i leave the password field blank and it says it wrong =S
[04:55] <avalost> Red_Bullet: err, try ./botname
[04:55] <p0windah> avalost: the system is using unicode, yes
[04:56] <tamarack> you should add hoary extras and hoary backports to your repositories
[04:56] <avalost> p0windah: that may be the problem
[04:56] <Red_Bullet> avalost:  because perl is easyest
[04:56] <p0windah> avalost: it no longer works with unicode ?
[04:56] <avalost> Red_Bullet: err, no it's not
[04:56] <avalost> get yourself an energymech and start there
[04:56] <Red_Bullet> which bot is the easyest
[04:56] <avalost> p0windah: it *should* work with unicode, however some machines tend to get bungled
[04:56] <Red_Bullet> avalost:
[04:56] <p0windah> avalost: well the unicode on this machine is not bungled
[04:57] <avalost> you're certain
[04:57] <narkceh> apokryphos: could you please tell me how to install azureus because I have no idea. I downloaded Azureus_<IP_ADDRESS>_linux.GTK.tar.bz2 is this right?  btw. Java installation system worked and thanks for you.
[04:57] <d2dchat_> i dont see hoary extras and backports
[04:57] <Seveas> p0windah, fonts aren't rendered where?
[04:57] <p0windah> avalost: unicode is working a-ok with traditional and simplified chinese and english and scim is working good
[04:57] <kevor> isn't there anything like the OsX launchbar with the enlarging icons (something less buggy then gdesklets)
[04:57] <apokryphos> narkceh: untar it first, yup
[04:58] <avalost> hmm, interesting
[04:58] <p0windah> Seveas: I fired up fvwm95 and menus are blank boxs, same with twm
[04:58] <narkceh> apokryphos: how can i untar it?
[04:58] <Seveas> check the fontpaths in /etc/nxserver/node.conf
[04:58] <apokryphos> narkceh: tar jxf <file>
[04:58] <Seveas> compare them with the ones in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:58] <p0windah> Seveas: gotcha
[04:59] <p0windah> Seveas: thanks for the repo. btw
[04:59] <Seveas> yw
[05:00] <No1Viking> What happened with the ubuntuguide?
[05:00] <tamarack> d2dchat_, add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list file
[05:00] <tamarack> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[05:00] <tamarack> just put it at the end
[05:00] <tamarack> then type sudo apt-get update
[05:01] <tamarack> then try and get it
[05:01] <d2dchat_> i already have that at the bottom interestingly enough
[05:01] <narkceh> apokryphos: and than?
[05:02] <apokryphos> narkceh: check the readme
[05:02] <apokryphos> narkceh: you just have to open a file there; don't recall the exact name
[05:03] <FallenOne> lol im not getting support :/
[05:03] <Hajuu> Ok so um.. alsa gives no error when starting... but I get no sound... any ideas why?
[05:03] <tamarack> d2dchat_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%29
[05:03] <p0windah> Seveas: its the AGENT_EXTRA_OPTIONS_X line ? I made it match everything in xorg.conf and it didnt help
[05:04] <tamarack> that should be more help than I am
[05:04] <d2dchat_> tamarack, hehe ty
[05:04] <tamarack> np
[05:04] <FallenOne> ok i'll ask it again
[05:04] <tamarack> and don't worry, it's usually pretty painless to setup
[05:04] <FallenOne> Well , i left the password field blank at the intall and now i leave the password field blank and it says it wrong =S
[05:05] <Seveas> p0windah, in that case I have no more ideas
[05:05] <apsync> hi, where/how can I see how much space I have left on my harddisk(s) ?
[05:05] <p0windah> k
[05:05] <Jowi> apsync: df -h
[05:06] <p0windah> I'll fiddle, thx anyway seveas
[05:06] <apsync> thank you
[05:06] <tamarack> is anyone using the i810/i915 drivers?
[05:06] <tamarack> mtrr: base(0xe8020000) is not aligned on a size(0x600000) boundary
[05:06] <FallenOne> omfg..l.
[05:06] <apsync> Jowi,  and where stands 'df' for?
[05:06] <FallenOne> Seveas
[05:07] <FallenOne> Do u understand my problem which i get no help for
[05:07] <FallenOne> (no replies)
[05:07] <p0windah> FallenOne: I'm pretty sure "I forgot my password" is covered in the multitude of guides
[05:07] <Jowi> apsync: NO idea. not even the man page say what it stands for. But it does list the filesystem information.
[05:08] <puff> Hm, do I need to make a breezy install CD, or can I download it to the drive and run it from there?
[05:08] <_rb_> hey. anyone really good with gzip ?
[05:08] <apsync> ah Ok, thank you :)
[05:08] <Seveas> FallenOne, I don't even know the problem :)
[05:08] <Jowi> apsync: just type "df -h" in a terminal
[05:08] <apsync> jup worked
[05:08] <FallenOne> Saveas: Well , i left the password field blank at the intall and now i leave the password field blank and it says it wrong =S
[05:09] <avalost> _rb_: problem?
[05:09] <puff> FallenOne: Simply repeating your problem is generally considered rude and annoying, and likely to decrease your odds of getting help.
[05:09] <_rb_> i wanna know how to get gzip to output files as it decompresses, but i want it to start a certain number of files in
[05:09] <pl_ice> hi, got a problem killed my Desktop ...
[05:09] <FallenOne> Puff:i replied to savea
[05:09] <_rb_> ive been importing a dump, and the problem is that i crashed after 100700 pages, and i want to resume further down
[05:10] <avalost> erp, unsure
[05:10] <puff> FallenOne: Try this URL:  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=ubuntu+%22forgot+my+password%22&btnG=Search
[05:10] <_rb_> its just using -dc > then a script running thru php
[05:11] <_rb_> i just want to "resume" by telling it to start decompressing and supply the files 100k into it or so
[05:12] <bob2> to be fair, your problem is fairly self-inflicted
[05:12] <Seveas> FallenOne, login in recovery mode and use passwd your_username
[05:13] <FallenOne> i did in recovry but then
[05:13] <FallenOne> it says
[05:13] <trigger_ph> howdy
[05:13] <FallenOne> root @ my local host name
[05:13] <FallenOne> in sum command prompt
[05:14] <Seveas> good
[05:14] <sertmann> hey, breezy doesn't detect my soundcard, a Creative SoundBlaster Live, what gives?
[05:14] <Seveas> then type passwd your_username_here
[05:15] <trigger_ph> hi. would anyone know of nice repositories of themes for ubuntu?
[05:15] <Seveas> !themes
[05:15] <ubotu> methinks themes is at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[05:15] <trigger_ph> thanks Seveas
[05:15] <bob2> sertmann: you're sure? the snd_emu10k1 module really isn't loaded?
[05:16] <sertmann> bob2, sure no... but it says it's not detected
[05:16] <bob2> sertmann: "it says"? where?
[05:16] <sertmann> bob2, under the boot
[05:17] <sertmann> bob2, ALSA that is....
[05:17] <bob2> alsa prints "I did not find a SB Live card"?
[05:17] <sertmann> bob2, alsa prints something along the lines of 'soundcard not detected'
[05:18] <Hajuu> Ok so um.. alsa gives no error when starting... but I get no sound... any ideas why?
[05:18] <Nermal> breezy preview install cds working ok ?
[05:18] <bob2> sertmann: so, run lsmod and see if the module is loaded?
[05:18] <bob2> actually, nevermind
[05:18] <apsync> what's a good place to put data in ? /etc/ ?
[05:19] <Seveas> apsync, your homedir...
[05:19] <AndieB> Hi all!
[05:19] <sertmann> bob2, well emu10k1 is there...
[05:21] <sertmann> conflict with my onboard ac97 maybe?
[05:21] <apsync> Seveas, homedir = personal folder ? (Where Desktop is)
[05:21] <Hajuu> Ok so um.. alsa gives no error when starting... but I get no sound... any ideas why?
[05:21] <FallenOne> saveas
[05:21] <FallenOne> like this
[05:21] <Seveas> apsync, yes
[05:21] <AndieB> Anyone who can help me out with adding CODECs for TOTEM player?
[05:21] <apsync> ah Ok, thank you
[05:21] <FallenOne> passwd fallenone
[05:21] <FallenOne> ?
[05:21] <AndieB> Or should I use another player for Video?
[05:21] <Seveas> AndieB, install gstreamer-plugins-universe
[05:22] <Seveas> or w32codecs if you use totem-xine
[05:22] <AndieB> Seveas: Thank you!
[05:22] <Nermal> apsync, /opt
[05:22] <Nermal> or your home dir
[05:22] <apsync> ok
[05:22] <sktrdie> where's the linux kernel source located in ubuntu
[05:23] <ORiON2012> sktrdie: linux-source
[05:23] <narkceh> apokryphos: I installed azureus and it worked. But it didn't make any shotcuts. Before when apt-get worked it make a shortcut in gnome -> internet -> azureus
[05:23] <Seveas> sktrdie, package linux-source-2.6.10
[05:23] <AndieB> Seveas: I don't have it in Synaptic Package Manager...?
[05:23] <sktrdie> ORiON2012: where is that?
[05:23] <Seveas> AndieB, enable universe :)
[05:23] <sktrdie> ORiON2012: I mean in which path
[05:23] <netbugz> anyone know a cdwriting app for ubuntu??
[05:23] <apokryphos> narkceh: you can make them; use smeg or whatever =)
[05:23] <ORiON2012> sktrdie: it's a package you must install, then you can find it in /usr/src
[05:24] <narkceh> apokryphos: smeg?
[05:24] <sktrdie> ORiON2012: I have it already installaed
[05:24] <sktrdie> but it's not there
[05:24] <bob2> sktrdie: why do you want the kernel source?
[05:24] <Seveas> netbugz, gnomebaker, graveman, serpentine, k3b, nautilus, cdrecord....
[05:24] <puff> Blah.
[05:24] <puff> Hm.
[05:24] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell narkceh about smeg
[05:24] <ORiON2012> sktrdie: /usr/src/linux-(version)
[05:24] <bob2> netbugz: the gnome file manager can burn data cds
[05:24] <AndieB> Seveas: Universe? You mean repository?
[05:24] <netbugz> something that can duplicate even a copyrighted CD??
[05:24] <Hajuu> I know you were all very concerned, but I got it going
[05:25] <sertmann> mpg123 gives, "can't open default sound device"
[05:25] <narkceh> apokryphos: cool. thanks.
[05:25] <bob2> netbugz: that appears to be off-topic
[05:25] <Seveas> AndieB, yes
[05:25] <Seveas> !tell AndieB about repos
[05:25] <sktrdie> ORiON2012: but I want the one that is already configured the way I have my kernel now
[05:26] <sertmann> !sound
[05:26] <ubotu> sound is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[05:26] <sproingie> netbugz: not many linux cd burners handle copy protection unless it's something trivial.  you'll need a windows app like alcohol 120
[05:26] <ORiON2012> sktrdie: its a kernel image, there is no source
[05:26] <Jowi> netbugz: graveman is pretty nice. it has got a duplicate-cd option.
[05:26] <sktrdie> ORiON2012: basicallyI just need to change something in the config, what should I do?
[05:26] <ORiON2012> sktrdie: roll your own
[05:27] <tylo> is there a way to display the line numbers in gedit?
[05:27] <morbius> how to make a cd installer bootable??
[05:27] <morbius> how to make a cd installer bootable??
[05:27] <Gman> i have a question regarding breezy
[05:27] <morbius> how to make a cd installer bootable??
[05:28] <sertmann> abd aplay -l gives: device_list:218: no soundcards found...
[05:28] <netbugz> Jowi netbugz: graveman is pretty nice. it has got a duplicate-cd option. <<< TNX
[05:28] <Gman> can you upgrade to breezy from hoary without reinstalling?
[05:28] <sproingie> Gman: yes.  change hoary to breezy in sources.list, then apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:28] <morbius> how to make a cd installer coming from net bootable
[05:29] <morbius> how to make a cd installer coming from net bootable?
[05:29] <sproingie> morbius: stop repeating
[05:29] <morbius> sowi
[05:29] <sktrdie> just get it from kernel.org and do it from there?
[05:29] <morbius> ok tbx
[05:29] <sktrdie> But I dont know how to configure most of the stuff
[05:29] <Gman> thanks sproingie - so i need to edit the repositories first..
[05:30] <ORiON2012> sktrdie: may as well use the stuff with ubuntu patches for maximum compatibility
[05:30] <sproingie> Gman: yep.  it's a simple patch
[05:30] <sktrdie> ORiON2012: How do I install patches btw?
[05:30] <sproingie> Gman: er, s/patch/edit/  (got patching on my brain today)
[05:30] <ORiON2012> sktrdie: google can tell you that
[05:31] <sktrdie> ORiON2012: can I use the .config I have now and use to compile the new kernel in that .config?
[05:31] <Gman> thanks for the info!...i installed ubuntu only 2 days ago and i love it!
[05:32] <ORiON2012> sktrdie: if all you're doing is changing one configuration option then yes, but if its a different kernel version .config then it is not wise
[05:32] <MaCa> Is it possible to install ubuntu from its liveCD?
[05:32] <sktrdie> no it's the same
[05:32] <sktrdie> I guess
[05:32] <sproingie> MaCa: not last time i looked
[05:32] <sktrdie> it's 2.6.12
[05:32] <sktrdie> just i think the config is from 2.6.12-8
[05:33] <narkceh> apokryphos: how can i make a script named 'azureus'; ex. "./azureus" because i cannot make shortcut that i have to use terminal and go to azureus directory and use ./azureus?
[05:33] <nxvl> hi
[05:33] <nxvl> i have just download ans unpack DBDesigner4
[05:34] <nxvl> but when i try to run it
[05:34] <nxvl> i got this error: libXft.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:34] <sproingie> narkceh: you could just put the azureus directory in your path
[05:34] <Frafra> hi all
[05:34] <_rb_> or drag the thing out of konqueror
[05:34] <nxvl> i have install libXft, libXft-dev and libXft-dbg
[05:34] <sproingie> narkceh: or just create a link from the current azureus directory to your ~/bin directory
[05:34] <_rb_> navigate there iusing the terminal if you wish
[05:34] <nxvl> but it still doesn't work
[05:35] <Pyf> how do i update my aptitude list?
[05:35] <Frafra> I'm trying to use efax, but it says me: "efax: 35:19 done, returning 4 (no response from modem)"
[05:35] <sproingie> or what _rb_ said, just drag the exe to your desktop with konq and click "make link here"
[05:36] <Frafra> why?
[05:36] <oO[NOVA] Oo> MY BUTT SAYS
[05:36] <oO[NOVA] Oo> damn. sorry. my brother's messing with my pc
[05:36] <narkceh> sproingie: i got it. thanks
[05:38] <Cathelo> If I have a fresh install of breezy beaver, is there an easy way to downgrade to hoary hedgehog or do I have to reinstall from scratch?
[05:38] <ORiON2012> Cathelo: I've heard from several that downgrading does weird and bad things
[05:38] <ORiON2012> Cathelo: but I've never tried
[05:39] <p0windah> software configurations dont downgrade well
[05:39] <Cathelo> Fair enough.
[05:40] <nybble> i'd just re-install...
[05:40] <Cathelo> Have people been having lots of problems with beaver?  I'm finding it to be slow and having other little problems as well.  Any big known issues?
[05:40] <nybble> beaver?
[05:40] <p0windah> he means breezy
[05:40] <nybble> ah
[05:41] <nybble> lol
[05:41] <nybble> i thought so
[05:41] <ORiON2012> Cathelo: no
[05:41] <nybble> i was just about to say that lol...
[05:41] <nubbe> I was hoping he didn't  :)
[05:41] <LokeDK> Would like to have mplayer for i686, but mplayer-686 - transitional dummy package which can be safely removed < what does that mean? that's the package description
[05:41] <ORiON2012> nybble: hedgehogs, badgers, it's all a bit confusing :)
[05:41] <netbugz> anyone know an app for writing ISO image to CD graveman cant do the job..
[05:41] <nybble> Cathelo: i was running it, but it broke on an X upgrade,
[05:41] <nybble> netbugz: use gnome?
[05:42] <nubbe> netbugz, nautilus
[05:42] <netbugz> i use Ubuntu
[05:42] <nybble> netbugz: i beleive you can right-click on an ISO and click burn or something
[05:42] <nybble> Gnome = Ubuntu default desktop
[05:42] <nybble> Nautalius = Gnome's File browser
[05:42] <netbugz> tnx
[05:42] <netbugz> got
[05:42] <netbugz> it
[05:42] <netbugz> LOL
[05:43] <nybble> did it work, netbugz?
[05:43] <Jowi> netbugz: graveman can absolutely burn ISO to CD.
[05:43] <netbugz> yah
[05:43] <fortnox> hey guys i dont know if anyone of you can give me a hint on what could be the problem i am having. when i do a "modprobe fglrx" its says fatal module not found. but if i do "vi /etc/modules" fglrx is added in there.  I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:46] <netbugz> !add me
[05:46] <ubotu> netbugz: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[05:46] <netbugz> LOL
[05:46] <nybble> i've spent many an hour talking to ubotu...
[05:46] <nybble> ubotu, tell nybble about add
[05:47] <netbugz> use the !
[05:47] <nybble> ubotu, your so darn smart
[05:47] <ubotu> nybble: Are you smoking crack?
[05:47] <nybble> hehe
[05:47] <narkceh> Jowi: how can i run winmac_fstab?
[05:48] <Jowi> narkceh: it is all explained in the file itself
[05:48] <Echelon-H> hi.
[05:48] <oO[NOVA] Oo> get a winmac_f knife to winmac_fstab ;);)
[05:48] <Echelon-H> Is there any midi-gui player?
[05:48] <EnderNine> anyone know how to stop the screen from locking in breezy?
[05:48] <narkceh> Jowi: sorry. i didnt read any.
[05:49] <Jowi> narkceh: look in the winmac_fstab that ubotu just gave you the link to.
[05:49] <bur[n] er> EnderNine: turn off the checkbox in your screensaver that says "lock screen on screensaver"
[05:49] <robotgeek> anyone using bittorrent, could you volunteer to test something for us?
[05:49] <netbugz> anyone here know how to make Ragnarok Online run on Wine??
[05:49] <Frafra> can i receive fax on ubuntu?
[05:49] <bur[n] er> robotgeek: ?
[05:49] <Jowi> narkceh: look for "instructions for use:"
[05:49] <robotgeek> bur[n] er: http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/ download a torrent, and see if you can download?
[05:50] <AndieB> I've downloaded Apache2 via Synaptic Package Manager and installed it and at the same time de-installed Apache 1.13. Is there any Graphical config for Apache2?
[05:50] <EnderNine> bur[n] er: I did that.. still locks up
[05:50] <bur[n] er> robotgeek: i'm goin for it
[05:50] <robotgeek> bur[n] er: thanks
[05:50] <bur[n] er> EnderNine: as in a "hard" lock?  like you can't do anything?  or just lcoks the screen so you need to enter a password?
[05:50] <butcherbird> !ubotu
[05:50] <ubotu> Thaaat's me! I'm a bot, not a human. I'm sometimes the most coherent poster on #ubuntu! For more, ask me about "add". You can browse my brain on http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:51] <EnderNine> bur[n] er: just locks it so I need to type my password
[05:51] <bur[n] er> robotgeek: loads up fine.. though 0 peers & seeders
[05:51] <apokryphos> bur[n] er: doesn't try to d/l ?
[05:51] <bur[n] er> robotgeek: plus, it's old versions of java :)  update 1.5_05 was released
[05:51] <bur[n] er> apokryphos: it's in my azureus... but no one to download from
[05:52] <trigger_ph> !themes
[05:52] <ubotu> well, themes is at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[05:52] <bur[n] er> EnderNine: i'm not sure there... u on breezy?
[05:52] <robotgeek> the site did register your download, weird
[05:52] <EnderNine> bur[n] er: yeah
[05:53] <nybble>  ibetter put on some pants, i can feel a breez-y
[05:53] <nybble> hehe
[05:53] <bur[n] er> EnderNine: u have both gnome-screensaver and xscreensaver installed by chance?
[05:53] <EnderNine> bur[n] er: yeah.. they both came installed
[05:53] <bur[n] er> EnderNine: update ;)
[05:53] <bur[n] er> gnome-screensaver knocks out xscreensaver now
[05:53] <pippo> help install  skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[05:53] <Antioch> Does it?
[05:54] <morbius> how do i install java in fc2?
[05:54] <apokryphos> bur[n] er: ok, thanks for testing
[05:54] <ORiON2012> morbius: are you serious?
[05:54] <bur[n] er> apokryphos: np
[05:54] <morbius> yes y?
[05:54] <ORiON2012> morbius: look at the channel title
[05:54] <Palaiyot> LOL
[05:54] <nybble> morbus, join #fedora
[05:54] <nybble> i think
[05:55] <tommi^> Hi. I'm installing gforge and it is a mess. I'm at a point where apt-get repots "/etc/php4/cgi/php.ini already configured, not changing." and it seems to hang there. How can I get more information from apt-get?
[05:55] <Belutz> just tried the breezy preview livecd.... the new gnome is cool :D
[05:55] <bur[n] er> i have a favor to ask of someone now... can anyone test the "search" box in breezy's rhythmbox?  anytime I type something in there, RB crashes and won't come back till i dump my ~/.gnome2/rhythmbox directory
[05:55] <Palaiyot> this is UBUNTU not Fedora
[05:55] <morbius> ic i tot you can give me some help
[05:55] <Palaiyot> yeah but not Fedora
[05:55] <AndieB> Seveas: I downloaded the gstreamer as you said, but I can not view AVI files in my Totem player?
[05:55] <bur[n] er> morbius: nope ;)  with ubuntu sure, not fc ;)
[05:55] <Palaiyot> channel is UBUNTU
[05:55] <Belutz> tommi^: go to #gforge
[05:55] <bur[n] er> !tell AndieB about restrictedformats
[05:55] <pippo> help install  skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[05:56] <tommi^> Belutz, it's a configuration issue with dpkg's. Not specific to gforge, I guess. But I'll try there too, thanks
[05:56] <morbius> ok palaiyot!!!
[05:56] <Seveas> morbius, why on earth do you think we support fedora..?
[05:56] <EnderNine> im having a problem with azureus too if anyone wants to help with that =p it just doesnt want to download and it crashes after awhile(thought the crashing was because of the screen locking)
[05:56] <ORiON2012> pippo: sudo dpkg -i skype_<IP_ADDRESS>-1_i386.deb
[05:56] <morbius> umiyot ka na lng ng umiyot!!!!!
[05:56] <Jowi> pippo: simply .. ehhh... ORiON2012 beat me to it :-)
[05:56] <Palaiyot> Ulol
[05:56] <AndieB> bur[n] er: Thank you!
[05:56] <Seveas> morbius, stick to english in here...
[05:57] <pippo> tnx i try
[05:57] <morbius> gago!!! hindi ka naman kinakausap!!!
[05:57] <Palaiyot> kick him he told me to feck my self
[05:57] <AndieB> Another quess... i'm installing OpenOffice 2... do I have to Uninstall OpenOffice 1.1??
[05:57] <morbius> pilipino nga naman!!!
[05:57] <narkceh> Jowi: /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda ntfs rw,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 0 0 says now: bash: cd: /mnt/hda/: Permission denied
[05:57] <ORiON2012> Seveas: thanks
[05:58] <Palaiyot> your fault we tried to help but you cussed me
[05:58] <narkceh> Jowi: that script made those directories but they were not good because they were something like /media/0 GB Disk (hdb1)/
[05:58] <deFrysk> !info msttcorefont
[05:58] <deFrysk> !info msttcorefonts
[05:58] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu1 (hoary), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 160 kB
[05:58] <narkceh> Jowi: so i changed fstab and now i cant use that
[05:58] <Proteque> hey.
[05:58] <Proteque> I suddenly got a problem on my computer,
[05:58] <Seveas> narkceh, the script also creates symlinks like /dev/hdb1
[05:58] <FallenOne> saveas:i fallowed ur info but it doenst work , i do passwd fallenone, then it said new UNIX password then if i wanne type something it doenst show up
[05:59] <Proteque> psmouce.c bad data from kbc fills the screen and then it instant reboots.
[05:59] <EnderNine> having a problem with azureus
[05:59] <Seveas> FallenOne, nothing should show up....
[05:59] <butcherbird> EnderNine, what kind of problem
[05:59] <Jowi> narkceh: well, obviously. try something like this then: /dev/hda1       /mnt/hda       ntfs    defaults,umask=000        0       0
[05:59] <EnderNine> butcherbird: it wont download at all
[06:00] <EnderNine> butcherbird: sometimes I get a green smiley and such.. no errors and no nat problems but it just doesnt download
[06:00] <apsync> ask in #azureus  ?
[06:00] <pippo> i install skype but don't start because?
[06:00] <Seveas> pippo, because something is wrong...
[06:00] <FallenOne> Seveas , well if i type something it keeps staying blank but if thats good k , but if i type the pass 2 times it said : Failed to auth password info or sumthing :S
[06:00] <Seveas> post the error on the pastebin
[06:01] <Seveas> FallenOne, without an exact error I can't say anything about it...
[06:01] <ORiON2012> FallenOne: its a security feature, you don't want passwords displayed in plaintext so anyone walking by can see it
[06:01] <snowowl> EnderNine: the torrent could be at fault
[06:01] <butcherbird> EnderNine, if you change the port to like 8080 does it work? Showind any seeds?
[06:02] <EnderNine> snowowl: I thought that but I have 3 different torrents up and none work
[06:02] <j0nas`> hey, what file do you need to edit to set an environment variable for all users at boot up?
[06:02] <j0nas`> for example say i wanted to make JAVA_HOME available to all users
[06:02] <FallenOne> Saveas : Ok it says Failed to auth the password infomation
[06:02] <Palaiyot> anyone know where i can ask help for WINE??
[06:02] <EnderNine> butcherbird: ive changed the port multiple times and seeds do show up.. but it still doesnt download
[06:02] <Seveas> j0nas`, you should install java properly so you don't need that...
[06:02] <Seveas> Palaiyot, #wine
[06:02] <j0nas`> java package has been removed from hoary-extras repository
[06:02] <j0nas`> gotta go by hand now
[06:02] <Seveas> #winehq even
[06:03] <Palaiyot> no one there
[06:03] <Seveas> j0nas`, even than you can install it properly
[06:03] <j0nas`> how so?
[06:03] <Seveas> with make-jpkg (exactly how the hoary-extras debs are made)
[06:03] <apokryphos> j0nas`: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions
[06:04] <butcherbird> EnderNine, sorry dont use azureus that much maybe someone else can help.
[06:04] <j0nas`> nevertheless, how would you set the env variable?
[06:04] <EnderNine> butcherbird: alright, thanks anyway =p
[06:04] <Seveas> in /etc/bash.bashrc / /etc/profile / /etc/gdm.conf
[06:04] <Seveas> (all of them)
[06:04] <FallenOne> Saves : did u even read?
[06:04] <j0nas`> i cant imagine why you would need to set it in all 3 files...
[06:05] <Seveas> because the all reset the path depending on how you login...
[06:05] <j0nas`> oh okay
[06:05] <Seveas> FallenOne, yes and I do not believe that that's the exact error
[06:05] <Echelon-H> can anyone help me with playing midi files?
[06:05] <j0nas`> what about if i add a dir /etc/rc.d and set the variables in a script, say java.sh?
[06:06] <Seveas> wouldn't help
[06:06] <FallenOne> sigh let me check again...sigh
[06:06] <Seveas> because the all reset the path depending on how you login... <---- 'reset'
[06:06] <Rawn027> hello all, i have a quick questions on ppc64 ubuntu
[06:07] <Rawn027> when i go to shutdown or restart it freezes when my USB ports
[06:07] <snowowl> This is a stark, but I am starting a project to rewrite the linux kernel in common lisp - with comaptibilty, (extreme) modularity, correctness as main goals. Does anyone know of a similar project that I can reference.
[06:08] <j0nas`> how about if i created a symbolic link in /usr/local/bin, say "java", and added a link to the java path in alternatives?
[06:08] <j0nas`> would that work?
[06:08] <dr_willis> seen a Linux Perl kernel project once...  :P
[06:08] <dr_willis> as a joke.
[06:08] <ORiON2012> j0nas`: make-jpkg is your friend
[06:08] <dr_willis> j0nas`,  thats how ive done it in the past. but its proberly not needed now.
[06:09] <j0nas`> make-jpkg is a program?
[06:09] <Seveas> j0nas`, that's what installing it properly does...
[06:09] <odatubuntu> hello everyone
[06:10] <j0nas`> or is make-jpkg an apt command?
[06:10] <j0nas`> i dont see in my path
[06:10] <Seveas> read the wikipage you were given...
[06:10] <Frafra> can i receive fax on ubuntu?
[06:10] <ORiON2012> j0nas`: sudo apt-get install java-package
[06:10] <odatubuntu> anyone able to help with networking?
[06:11] <Jowi> odatubuntu: that is a very general question
[06:11] <odatubuntu> lol
[06:11] <odatubuntu> Jowi: i have a xp machine that i am able to access from ubuntu but not visa versa
[06:12] <Jowi> odatubuntu: via what? ssh, samba?
[06:13] <odatubuntu> jowi, samba
[06:14] <Jowi> !samba
[06:14] <ubotu> well, samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[06:14] <Jowi> odatubuntu: have a look there :-)
[06:14] <GhostFreeman> Where would I place a replacement icon for Firefox?
[06:14] <odatubuntu> k
[06:14] <apsync> where can I see my system info (cpu speed,etc..)?
[06:15] <Da_SWAT> ompaul, for the record, Ubuntu breezy just recognized my DVD burner :D
[06:15] <ompaul> apsync, cd /proc and poke about in there
[06:15] <apsync> thank you
[06:15] <DewDude> breezy is nice
[06:15] <ORiON2012> yup
[06:16] <Jowi> apsync: hal-device-manager if you want something graphical
[06:16] <apsync> thanks
[06:17] <Palaiyot> anyone here got Ragnarok to run in WINE?????
[06:17] <ompaul> Da_SWAT, great, emmmm so are you going to do the brave thing and upgrade - or wait for release :)
[06:17] <dr_willis> Palaiyot,  check the wine forums perhaps?
[06:17] <Palaiyot> opsssss wrong chan sorry
[06:19] <jdermer> god limewire molests my bandwidth
[06:19] <dr_willis> :)
[06:19] <ompaul> Jowi, not really a patch on cat /proc/cpuinfo :)
[06:19] <apokryphos> Anyone want to test one of the sun torrents (http://www.giannaros.org/tor/bt/)?
[06:20] <dr_willis> downloading the sun?
[06:20] <jbroome> i don't have enough drive space for the sun
[06:20] <apokryphos> dr_willis: if you can, please test one of the sun debs there to see if it downloads for you
[06:20] <Jowi> ompaul: yeah that's my favourite as well. so much fun info in /proc :-)
[06:21] <Butcherbird-Jr> apokryphos, I got it but i dont see any peers or seeders
[06:21] <ThePyromaniac> hey guys
[06:21] <ThePyromaniac> what P2P software (if any) are you all using?
[06:21] <apokryphos> butcherbird: what pack and what client you got there?
[06:21] <ompaul> jbroome, just compress it using a black hole - and then we can all take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:21] <dabaR> gtk-gnutella
[06:21] <jbroome> ompaul: :)
[06:21] <jbroome> noted
[06:21] <Butcherbird-Jr> apokryphos, sun-j2re1.4_1.4.2+09_i386.deb
[06:22] <ThePyromaniac> dabaR: may have to investigate. i tried limewire but i need new java but cant get it :(
[06:22] <ORiON2012> ThePyromaniac: mldonkey
[06:22] <ThePyromaniac> whats this i see about sun j2rel?
[06:22] <dr_willis> seems to be working for me.
[06:22] <apokryphos> Butcherbird-Jr: gar
[06:22] <dr_willis> firefox sent it to the gniome torrentt client and it took off. :P
[06:22] <apsync> when I want to run something with 'sudo' do I still need the './' (./something, sudo ./something, or just sudo something)
[06:22] <dr_willis> apsync,  of course
[06:22] <Da_SWAT> ompaul, I'm playing safe. I've been waiting for months (since the last release) so I can wait a few days more. Do you know the exact ETA?
[06:22] <apsync> ah ok
[06:23] <Butcherbird-Jr> apokryphos, now it is going
[06:23] <apokryphos> woo
[06:23] <ompaul> Da_SWAT, well the rumour mill says the 13th of October
[06:23] <apokryphos> Butcherbird-Jr: yeah, it may take time to get going. Excellent, it's working. :)
[06:23] <ThePyromaniac> so any of you know where i can get new sun j2re for 64-bit?
[06:23] <Da_SWAT> ompaul, I hope so. Then I can show breezy off at my LAN :D
[06:25] <ThePyromaniac> guys? How can i get new Java Runtime Envireoment?
[06:25] <fallenone> finaly
[06:25] <ThePyromaniac> i have looked on symantec
[06:25] <fallenone> lol
[06:25] <fallenone> it worked
[06:25] <fallenone> im alive!1
[06:25] <Jowi> wb fallenone
[06:25] <Da_SWAT> ThePyromaniac, download it?
[06:25] <ThePyromaniac> Da_SWAT : Now why did I think of that :p
[06:26] <darren_> Yesterday I installed about 200MB of updates. Today I can't seem to play music. I think that an update has affected the sound card. What can I do to rectify this?
[06:26] <sktrdie> jeez
[06:26] <ThePyromaniac> Da_SWAT: sun-j2re1.5 does not exist
[06:26] <sktrdie> I cannot find a guide on how to build a kernel from source
[06:26] <fallenone> can anyone help me :P
[06:26] <ORiON2012> ThePyromaniac: try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaAMD64
[06:26] <fallenone> i cant see my other drives like C:/ D:/ and E:/ only file system 0.o
[06:26] <ThePyromaniac> nice, thanks dude
[06:26] <imnes> Is there a package I can reinstall that will wipe out and recreate the default menu structure?  After a run with the latest smeg, I can't get my menu back.
[06:27] <ompaul> !tell fallenone about ntfs
[06:27] <[LethAL] > fallenone, That's a feature, not a bug
[06:27] <imnes> Even after deleting my local .config/menu files
[06:27] <ThePyromaniac> imnes: yes, tell me if anyone answers. mine is messed
[06:27] <fallenone> ah
[06:27] <ORiON2012> ThePyromaniac: and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JavaPackageBuildNewVersions
[06:27] <fallenone> linux cant see ntfs file systems?
[06:27] <apokryphos> fallenone: it sure cna
[06:27] <apokryphos> s/cna/can/
[06:27] <ORiON2012> fallenone: yes it can
[06:27] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell fallenone abotu ntfs
[06:28] <Kuolio> ThePyromaniac: go to ubuntuforums, hoary support, amd64 forum and look for tamirs thread of amd64 packages, he has a repo with newes java and such, wich you can apt-get after adding hes repo to your sources.list
[06:28] <bob2> fallenone: there's a difference between "the partition is available and could be mounted" and "the partition is mounted in /mnt somewhere"
[06:28] <fallenone> thank u :D
[06:29] <ThePyromaniac> Thanks guys, I have had many responces to that one about amd64 stuff :D
[06:29] <fallenone> ok ...
[06:29] <fallenone> anyway
[06:29] <fallenone> anyone know a linux msn messenger
[06:29] <fallenone> behalf amsn
[06:29] <ThePyromaniac> GAIM
[06:29] <[LethAL] > Gaim
[06:29] <fallenone> because it sais this
[06:29] <fallenone> Details: Failed to execute child process "amsn" (No such file or directory)
[06:29] <bob2> fallenone: ignore it, use gaim
[06:29] <bob2> ignore amsn
[06:29] <[LethAL] > Mercury is good as well, if you can bear the UI
[06:29] <ompaul> fallenone, there are 426 people in the channel - please keep the oh and ah on the same line as the other comment - and if you do what I told you it will see that neanderthal technology file system
[06:30] <gn0me> Hey there, I upgraded to breezy and there's one little thing different that I am having trouble getting over.  Right-clicking the desktop, the first item used to be "New Terminal".. now it isn't.. anyone know how I could re-add that entry?
[06:30] <fallenone> ok...
[06:31] <fallenone> how the f*ck can i save the large mount file 0.0
[06:31] <[LethAL] > large mount file?
[06:31] <bob2> gn0me: apt-cache search nautilus terminal
[06:31] <bob2> gn0me: there's some other package you have to install to get it
[06:31] <odatubuntu> still having networking problems
[06:31] <odatubuntu> and that page you sent me too is frustrating
[06:32] <sertmann> !sound
[06:32] <ubotu> rumour has it, sound is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/DebuggingSoundProblems/
[06:32] <odatubuntu> it says (((Q: I don't have a 'Windows Networking' section, only Hostname and Domain-name. What do I do now?)))   and then no answer to it
[06:32] <[LethAL] > Does anybody know why when I do something remotely resource-intensive, rhythmnbox stutters? Any way round it?
[06:32] <sambagirl> which gaim should i download?
[06:32] <sambagirl> is there a icq for linux?
[06:32] <bob2> sambagirl: you already have it installed, use it
[06:32] <bob2> sambagirl: gaim also does icq
[06:32] <[LethAL] > s/rhythmnbox/rhythmbox
[06:32] <bob2> [LethAL] : use something other than rhythmbox
[06:33] <sambagirl> wow bob2 your awesome
[06:33] <ORiON2012> [LethAL] : what engine are you using?
[06:33] <[LethAL] > No idea which engine I'm using
[06:33] <ORiON2012> [LethAL] : sorry, RB, not amarok...
[06:33] <[LethAL] > lol
[06:33] <odatubuntu> bob2: sup man
[06:33] <scorpio2002> hi there!
[06:33] <[LethAL] > bob2, And you would recommend (For gnome)
[06:33] <scorpio2002> I've got a problem
[06:33] <sambagirl> i hate to ask this but where is it bob2?
[06:34] <scorpio2002> basically, whenever I try to use a command with su, I get "id program:name unknown"
[06:34] <sambagirl> bob2 they take your ops away?
[06:34] <ORiON2012> [LethAL] : muine is nice and minimal
[06:34] <ompaul> sambagirl, try applications - internet - some program
[06:34] <bob2> sambagirl: applications -> internet
[06:34] <bob2> sambagirl: no
[06:34] <bob2> [LethAL] : I use cplay, but it's not a gnome app. perhaps xmm.
[06:34] <scorpio2002> can you help me?
[06:34] <sambagirl> i found it gracias
[06:34] <ORiON2012> [LethAL] : personally, I love amaroK....   but no, I don't know why it would skip
[06:34] <sambagirl> ubuntu is awesome
[06:34] <fallenone> erm lol :P
[06:35] <fallenone> how can i save the mount thingie?
[06:35] <bob2> scorpio2002: so, don't use su, problems solved
[06:35] <apokryphos> ORiON2012: skip?
[06:35] <ORiON2012> [LethAL] : have you tried other players?  xmms or beep?
[06:35] <odatubuntu> sambagirl: heya does that mean you know a lot about samba?
[06:35] <[LethAL] > No, will do though
[06:35] <bob2> odatubuntu: hi
[06:35] <ORiON2012> apokryphos: ^^
[06:35] <[LethAL] > Do any have a Gnome-applet (plugin)
[06:35] <apokryphos> ORiON2012: what's the problem? amaroK skips?
[06:35] <ompaul> !tell scorpio2002 about root
[06:35] <scorpio2002> bob2, you must be joking... how can I now use su?
[06:35] <ORiON2012> apokryphos: no, RB skips for [LethAL]
[06:36] <ORiON2012> apokryphos: stutters, whatever
[06:36] <bob2> scorpio2002: why would you bother? just use sudo
[06:36] <apokryphos> [LethAL] :  probably down to not having mp3 codecs; install akode-mpeg and gstreamer0.8-mad
[06:36] <imnes> They might need to consider removing smeg from ubuntu for final release, I've eventually lost my menu every time I've used it. Not a good experience especially for any new users trying things out.
[06:36] <scorpio2002> ok guys, it's always worked since yesterday....
[06:36] <apokryphos> [LethAL] : good idea to also install amarok-engines
[06:36] <sambagirl> sure i love samba i was born in bahia
[06:36] <sambagirl> home of samba
[06:36] <ORiON2012> apokryphos:  not using amarok
[06:36] <ORiON2012> apokryphos: no KDE involved
[06:36] <bob2> imnes: have you filed a bug?
[06:36] <apokryphos> ORiON2012: you're not, or they're not?
[06:37] <scorpio2002> bob2, you know? I'm stupid :| :D
[06:37] <sambagirl> ohh you mean computer samba?
[06:37] <sambagirl> no
[06:37] <ORiON2012> apokryphos: [LethAL] isn't
[06:37] <[LethAL] > I allready had gstreamer0.8-mad but I'll get akode-mpeg too
[06:37] <ORiON2012> [LethAL] : no you don't need it
[06:37] <gwenks> guys, just a simple question but i hope u'll help a newbie... how do i get to adjust the resolution of my monitor? pls...
[06:37] <fallenone> how do i save this : http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab
[06:37] <apokryphos> ORiON2012: so what's all this about amarok then, with them?
[06:37] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell gwenks about resolution
[06:37] <bob2> fallenone: hwo do you normally save files with firefox?
[06:37] <apokryphos> gwenks: the link ubotu just gave you hsa the solution =)
[06:38] <pvh> The KDE applications I have installed are no longer appearing in my Applications menu. Why?
[06:38] <fallenone> erm i dont know 0.o
[06:38] <gwenks> i'm listening.. i mean reading... :)
[06:38] <odatubuntu> sambagirl, i am having some problems setting it up so i was hoping you could help
[06:38] <fallenone> oops srry bob :P
[06:38] <ORiON2012> apokryphos: confused amarok with RB at first, then I just said I like amarok out of all other music players
[06:38] <fallenone> i know it
[06:38] <Gnonthgo1> how to install (any) linux on my Comandore 386 Laptop?
[06:38] <bob2> pvh: if you're using ubuntu, that's to be expected
[06:38] <apokryphos> gwenks: follow that and you should be ok; if you have problems, come back here and let us know :)
[06:39] <bob2> Gnonthgo1: www.debian.org, assuming it has a floppy or cd driver, or can pxeboot
[06:39] <darren_> Something seems to be blocking my soundcard. Any help on finding out what it is?
[06:39] <pvh> bob2: I am using Ubuntu, but they were there before.
[06:39] <bob2> darren_: fuser -v /dev/dsp /dev/snd/*
[06:39] <apokryphos> darren_: lsof /dev/dsp ?
[06:41] <darren_> They both return nothing
[06:41] <fallenone> erm looky bob
[06:41] <fallenone> fallenone@j35089:~$ sudo bash winmac_fstab
[06:41] <fallenone> Password:
[06:41] <fallenone> bash: winmac_fstab: No such file or directory
[06:41] <darren_> darren@Nexus:~$ fuser -v /dev/dsp /dev/snd/*
[06:41] <darren_> darren@Nexus:~$ lsof /dev/dsp
[06:41] <darren_> darren@Nexus:~$
[06:42] <apokryphos> darren_: do not paste in here
[06:42] <apokryphos> fallenone: same for you
[06:42] <bob2> fallenone: is that really surprising? you're not in the dir that the file is.
[06:42] <fallenone> ok
[06:42] <fallenone> erm its on desktop
[06:42] <bob2> yes
[06:42] <bob2> so cd Desktop
[06:42] <apokryphos> fallenone: and you're not there
[06:43] <elad_> How do I quit X?
[06:43] <fallenone> sorry :( im just new to linux
[06:43] <bob2> elad_: are you compiling nvidia junk?
[06:43] <elad_> No.
[06:43] <elad_> I just want to find out how to quit X. Nothing behind this.
[06:43] <bob2> elad_: then ctrl-alt-f1
[06:43] <bob2> or sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[06:43] <bob2> depending on what your aim is
[06:44] <Config>  Hi... I could use some help - I have updated to hoary and suddenly, hd performance goes down like hell (4mb/sec) - however, dma is turned on. Any idea?
[06:44] <bob2> Config: nforce?
[06:45] <fallenone> anyone know a good music program like winmx to download music on linux?
[06:45] <darren_> I can't hear any sounds and I need to listen to something. Any way to fix this?
[06:45] <apokryphos> fallenone: gtk-gnutella and limewire are the popular ones
[06:45] <elad_> bob2, it doesn't work.
[06:45] <gn0me> fallenone: Nicotine?
[06:45] <gn0me> Soulseek linux client
[06:45] <chicken-man> Hi every one ?
[06:45] <pvh> Nicotine doesn't connect to the bulk of Soulseek users anymore.
[06:45] <chicken-man> ooops
[06:45] <Config> bob2, no, a pretty old via
[06:45] <bob2> elad_: "doesn't work"?
[06:45] <pvh> I have switched to running the newest Soulseek under Wine, but it's a bit of a pain to get set up.
[06:45] <apokryphos> hi chicken-man :)
[06:45] <Config> bob2, VT8363/8365
[06:46] <bur[n] er> elad_: ctrl+alt+bksp
[06:46] <apokryphos> bur[n] er: that generally only restarts X
[06:46] <bob2> Config: file a bug I guess, then
[06:46] <fallenone> hmm i get a error when i start a music file :/
[06:46] <chicken-man> can i network a computer running ubuntu to a computer running winblows XP ?
[06:46] <bob2> chicken-man: sure
[06:46] <chicken-man> good :-P
[06:47] <apokryphos> ubotu: tell chicken-man about samba
[06:47] <gn0me> I like how you called it winblows to get accepted. :)
[06:47] <sertmann> could someone take a look at this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=67151
[06:47] <chicken-man> :-D
[06:47] <[LethAL] > Speaking of Samba, anyone know why shares 'require' a login and don't accept it?
[06:47] <apokryphos> fallenone: you will of course have to produce more info than that
[06:47] <bob2> [LethAL] : because yo uconfigured them to require authentication
[06:47] <fallenone> i cannot paste so i cannot say it
[06:47] <bob2> which is kinda pointless, since SMB is insecure anyway
[06:47] <fallenone> here were no decoders found to handle the stream in file :D
[06:48] <chicken-man> i am writeing a guide for ubuntu :-)
[06:48] <apokryphos> ubotu: paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:48] <ubotu> Wish i knew, apokryphos
[06:48] <bur[n] er> smb is insecure?
[06:48] <apokryphos> erm
[06:48] <bur[n] er> how so bob2 ?
[06:48] <apokryphos> fallenone: paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[06:48] <bur[n] er> that sounds like FUD ;)
[06:48] <bob2> chicken-man: pleae do license it under the GPL or MIT/X11 license
[06:48] <chicken-man> bob2, i will :-P
[06:48] <bob2> yay
[06:48] <apokryphos> chicken-man: let us know in here when it's done =)
[06:48] <fallenone> Apo why that? do i need to post it there?
[06:48] <chicken-man> :-D
[06:49] <[LethAL] > bob2, The point is they don't accept my user password
[06:49] <apokryphos> fallenone: that's a pastebin. If you want, paste there, and then produce the url here
[06:49] <chicken-man> [LethAL] , try your root password ?
[06:49] <bob2> [LethAL] : great
[06:49] <bob2> chicken-man: no
[06:49] <ribbo> Hi, what happpens to home/<username> when upgrading and the main user you are creating in the upgrade is the same username? /home is mounted on a different partition than /
[06:49] <chicken-man> bob2, ?
[06:49] <bob2> bur[n] er: hm, I can't find any linke aside from those for lanman 1
[06:50] <[LethAL] > Something's broke...
[06:50] <fallenone> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2351
[06:50] <pvh> bob2: The KDE applications not appearing in the menu do appear (and are set to display) in the Menu Editor.
[06:50] <bob2> pvh: ok
[06:50] <chicken-man> pvh, go in kubuntu
[06:50] <bob2> ribbo: what does "ain user you are creating in the upgrade is the same username" mean?
[06:51] <pvh> chicken-man: ?
[06:51] <ORiON2012> fallenone: you need gstreamer0.8-mad
[06:51] <pvh> bob2: Are they deliberately suppressed? Sorry, I guess I didn't understand your point earlier.
[06:51] <chicken-man> pvh, if you need help with KDE go in kubuntu
[06:51] <bob2> pvh: I don't know
[06:51] <pvh> chicken-man: It's not a KDE bug, it's a Gnome bug. (Bug? Feature?)
[06:51] <bob2> pvh: my point before is that they will not appear without manual intervention
[06:52] <ribbo> bob2: I am upgrading from Warty to Breezy, the only user on my system will be the same in theupgrade. What I am asking is whether or not my /home/ribbo directory would be overwritten
[06:52] <apokryphos> pvh: that's not to do with KDE
[06:52] <bob2> ribbo: that's going to screw up
[06:52] <chicken-man> pvh, oh
[06:52] <bob2> ribbo: please stop before you break things terribly
[06:52] <fallenone> how can i get this gstreamer0.8-mad
[06:52] <ribbo> bob2: thought so, that is why I am asking
[06:52] <bob2> ribbo: no, because you're going warty to breezy, which is explicitly not supported
[06:52] <bob2> ribbo: upgrade to hoary, then, if you insist, breezy
[06:52] <apokryphos> fallenone: make sure you have the repos, and install from synaptic
[06:53] <bob2> ribbo: no upgrade is ever going to touch /home. tho
[06:53] <ORiON2012> fallenone: the same way you get the rest of your software in Ubuntu, apt-get or synaptic
[06:53] <ORiON2012> or aptitude....
[06:53] <ribbo> bob2: sorry will be going to Hpary not Breezy .. typo
[06:54] <ribbo> bob2: thanks
[06:54] <fallenone> wtf is repos and synapatic? i just installed linux and i got the live cd and the install cd
[06:54] <fallenone> !theme
[06:54] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, fallenone
[06:54] <fallenone> !themes
[06:54] <ubotu> themes is, like, at http://art.ubuntu.com -  http://art.gnome.org - http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/57/ - http://www.guistyles.com
[06:55] <ORiON2012> fallenone: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewToUbuntu read it, then ask questions
[06:55] <bob2> if you want ubuntu to have the proper firefox logo, bitch at mozilla.org
[06:55] <bob2> it's their decision
[06:56] <bur[n] er> not that... I use my own
[06:56] <bur[n] er> but the human theme shouldn't include anything ;)
[06:56] <bur[n] er> or at least switch both firefox and thunderbird ;)  looks funny to have a globe next to my thunderbird icon
[06:57] <bloodnik> !repos
[06:57] <ubotu> repos is, like, at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto A list of official repositories can be found at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/969
[06:58] <darren_> My sound isn't working anymore. I installed a few updates yesterday and the system was fine. When I booted up today the only sound I got was the login screen loading up. Can anyone help?
[06:58] <adamh> I've set up a hostap-based access point. Clients receive an address via DHCP, but they can't ping the access point (or the rest of the Internet). Any ideas?
[06:58] <adamh> tcpdump on the ap shows an "arp who-has" without a reply
[06:58] <odatubuntu> anyone able to help with samba networking?
[07:00] <chicken-man> can any one give me some advice on a good engine to use to make 3D games in Linux ?
[07:00] <ORiON2012> darren_: GNOME has no sound events... ?  Or within specific applications?
[07:00] <chicken-man> for C++
[07:00] <adamh> chicken-man: Well, the Quake 3 engine is pretty cool... it's only in C
[07:00] <darren_> ORiON2012, GNOME has no sound events
[07:00] <darren_> I think that the soundcard is blocked
[07:00] <chicken-man> adamh, i don't do C :-)
[07:01] <darren_> How do I check what's using it and terminate the process?
[07:01] <adamh> chicken-man: I was reading about "sylphis3d" yesterday... it looks totally awesome, I dunno what languages it supports though
[07:01] <ORiON2012> darren_: is ESD enabled?
[07:01] <chicken-man> adamh, i'll take a look
[07:01] <ORiON2012> darren_: System->Prefs->Sound->Enable sound server
[07:01] <bob2> I'm not sure 3d game engines would fit a in an ubuntu newbie guide...
[07:01] <Soldier_laptop> hola
[07:02] <Soldier_laptop> alguien me puede decir como escuchar la radio por internet'
[07:02] <Soldier_laptop> ?
[07:02] <deFrysk> !es
[07:02] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:02] <bob2> Soldier_laptop: pretty clearly not a spanish-speaking channel
[07:02] <darren_> ORiON2012, that's already enabled
[07:02] <ORiON2012> darren_: is your card unmuted?
[07:03] <darren_> How do I check that?
[07:03] <ORiON2012> darren_: should be a little volume icon in the panel
[07:03] <mititelu> how can i make an old printer work, it's connectet via old way printer port
[07:03] <ORiON2012> darren_: or use alsamixer on CLI
[07:04] <sertmann> hmmm still playing around with my non-working sound, why does everyone seem to be using 2.6.12x kernel when the highest kernel-image i can find is 2.6.8-1?
[07:04] <bob2> mititelu: use the printer dialog to add it...
[07:05] <bur[n] er> sertmann: 2.6.12 is on breezy
[07:05] <bob2> sertmann: because you're using warty from mid 2004
[07:05] <bur[n] er> aww. warty even
[07:05] <sertmann> hmmm
[07:05] <sertmann> but
[07:05] <sertmann> im on breezy
[07:05] <mititelu> bob2 where is that, i have a hp deskjet 840C
[07:05] <fallenone> ok lol
[07:05] <bob2> sertmann: then you removed ubuntu-desktop
[07:05] <bur[n] er> mititelu: system -> administration -> printing
[07:05] <bob2> which was silly
[07:05] <fallenone> how the damnit can i find multiverse universe to download getstreamer mad
[07:06] <mititelu> k, thanks
[07:06] <Soldier_laptop> im sorry
[07:06] <bob2> fallenone: /msg ubotu repositories
[07:06] <ORiON2012> fallenone: you obviously didn't read, that's all covered in the wiki page I sent you too
[07:06] <Proof> what program supports exe for ubuntu?
[07:06] <ORiON2012> fallenone: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUbuntuUsers under MP3, Flash, Java, and other Proprietary Formats
[07:07] <bob2> Proof: none, in general
[07:07] <bob2> Proof: wine can run some programs, appcd.codeweavers.com
[07:07] <redon2> what's the correct way of installing a .deb I downloaded? (the Opera browser, to be more specific)
[07:08] <ORiON2012> redon2: sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[07:08] <redon2> thanks man
[07:08] <ORiON2012> redon2: it will complain if they're are unmet dependencies
[07:08] <ORiON2012> cool spelling
[07:11] <HiddenFly> when i try to install cvs cedega, it tells me during installation to delete /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.a. would that be a stupid move or is it ok to do it without breaking something?
[07:11] <redon2> why wouldn't the system be able to find 'make' in $PATH?
[07:11] <bob2> that's a very bad idea
[07:11] <ORiON2012> redon2: if it's not installed
[07:11] <bob2> redon2: because you didn't install build-essential
[07:12] <redon2> it's essential, shouldn't the base installer take care of essential packages?
[07:12] <redon2> anyway, `apt-get install build-essential'?
[07:12] <HiddenFly> bob2: yea thats what i thought, anyways i could still install cedega? it doesnt let me continue after that message
[07:12] <ORiON2012> redon2: essential to building, not to the base system
[07:12] <redon2> ah
[07:12] <redon2> all right, thanks again.
[07:12] <HiddenFly> i mean, is there any way to install it without deleting the file
[07:13] <Proof> i need to run a cd, but it's exe I've also tried installing wine but no success
[07:13] <pvh> HiddenFly: Actually, I believe it's alright.
[07:13] <pvh> HiddenFly: My advice is to rename rather than to delete the file.
[07:13] <fallenone> when i brouwse to my hard disc everytime i click on a folder it opens a new widow , how can i solve this?
[07:13] <ORiON2012> redon2: I'll bet there are people on Ubuntu that have never compiled a piece of software
[07:13] <bob2> HiddenFly: that's ridiculous
[07:13] <HiddenFly> yea i was just thinking about renaming
[07:13] <matitaccia> Hello! I have got a very old notebook. It's still a 486 it works perhaps at 66mhz (don't remember) and has something like 36 mb Ram. I would like to use it with a very small linux installation. Note: I don't have any cdrom drive.
[07:13] <ORiON2012> redon2: not that that's a bad thing
[07:13] <pvh> HiddenFly: If all hell breaks loose, move it back. I believe it conflicts with something.
[07:13] <HiddenFly> ok
[07:13] <bob2> wtf does it care about the static GL lib?
[07:13] <HiddenFly> so im gonna rename it and put a text file to my dekstop telling me the names so i dont forget them
[07:13] <HiddenFly> dunno
[07:14] <Proof> I cannot even install limewire or any audio codecs.
[07:14] <pvh> HiddenFly: Do some googling if you are (rightly) skeptical.
[07:14] <HiddenFly> it says that that file prevents linking to opengl
[07:14] <HiddenFly> k
[07:14] <pvh> HiddenFly: But I can tell you that it WFM.
[07:14] <redon2> ORiON2012, really? Conformists :)
[07:14] <HiddenFly> WFM?
[07:14] <pvh> worked for me
[07:14] <HiddenFly> k
[07:14] <matitaccia> Should I better go to some linux channel, instead of the ubuntu one?
[07:15] <bob2> matitaccia: yes
[07:15] <[LethAL] > matitaccia, apparently Damn SMall Linux would be good
[07:15] <matitaccia> bob2, thanks, was already going.
[07:15] <matitaccia> [LethAL] , thanks.
[07:15] <apsync> how can I find out the kernel version?
[07:16] <Config> apsync, uname -a
[07:16] <apsync> thank you
[07:16] <Proof> Hm, I click tools/wineinstall but nothing happens after i choose '' run ''. What should I do?
[07:16] <bur[n] er> can anyone recommend a gtk-based scanning program?
[07:17] <HiddenFly> erm, what is the terminal command for renaming? im a bit noob on these things :P
[07:17] <ORiON2012> bur[n] er: scanning like network or image?
[07:17] <apokryphos> HiddenFly: rename or mv
[07:17] <filleokus> can some help me to identify wich desklets that they us as a menu on this screen http://vidalinux.com/gallery/albums/album01/screen_vlos_02.sized.png ?
[07:17] <bob2> HiddenFly: mv
[07:17] <filleokus> please!
[07:17] <HiddenFly> thx
[07:17] <bur[n] er> ORiON2012: image... like on my HP PSC 1209 :)
[07:17] <bob2> does "rename" DTRT if you only give it two arguments?
[07:17] <bob2> filleokus: please try to not be annoying
[07:17] <filleokus> what?
[07:17] <ORiON2012> bur[n] er: xsane has a nice plugin for gimp, or just use xsane by itself
[07:17] <filleokus> sorry but i want to know wich one
[07:18] <HiddenFly> mv is move
[07:18] <bur[n] er> i like the gimp plugin idea... i have never attempted linux scanning before :)
[07:18] <HiddenFly> not rename
[07:18] <bur[n] er> thanks ORiON2012
[07:18] <bob2> filleokus: then ask, once, and wait
[07:18] <bob2> HiddenFly: how are they different things?
[07:18] <HiddenFly> dunno :P
[07:18] <filleokus> oh, u mean a "please" is not so good?
[07:18] <apokryphos> HiddenFly: mv <oldname> <newname>
[07:19] <HiddenFly> ok lol
[07:19] <apokryphos> bob2: apparently not
[07:19] <HiddenFly> sry for my noobiness
[07:19] <filleokus> does gdesklets have an irc channel?
[07:19] <apsync> uname -m returns i686, this means I have a i686 machine? or i686 version?
[07:20] <bur[n] er> filleokus: just open gdesklets and look for that widget, you'll find it