[06:33] <nab> anybody can help me with my wireless? i feel so close to getting it!! :(
[06:34] <FoolsRun> nab: the networking config tool doesn't do it for you?
[06:34] <bullrage> when i change priveliges on a drive, how do i make them apply to all folders on the disk?
[06:34] <nab> nope, i had to use ndisrapper, and it finally managed to get to a wireless network, but.... even then i have no internet
[06:35] <systemsos> Hi - is it possible to install ATI (fglrx) in a 32bit chroot environment? For getting wine to work with Graphics card.
[06:35] <iiiears> This didn't turn up anythig that was reviewed or recommended by a familiar source http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=free+dvd+burner&btnG=Google+Search
[06:35] <nab> i use network manager, as everything points this package as being better for wireless
[06:35] <Anchoito21> anyone knows to install alsaconf?
[06:35] <FoolsRun> nab: the network should be assigning you an ip and a gateway (if it's DHCP...), is it not?
[06:35] <nab> yup
[06:35] <duarte> duarte
[06:35] <FoolsRun> nab: is it, or isn't it?
[06:35] <Anchoito21> nab can you help me?
[06:35] <nab> but im quite new, how do i check the ip infos?
[06:36] <FoolsRun> nab: bleh, I'm quite new, too :)
[06:36] <Anchoito21> please i need help
[06:36] <nab> Anchoito21:  ehlp you with what?
[06:36] <Anchoito21> alsaconf
[06:36] <duarte> sudo apt-get install firefox does not work
[06:36] <railk> nab in the terminal enter ifconfig or something
[06:36] <GaiaX11> What does it mean?  (Ubuntu 6.06 LTS 'Dapper Drake' is released!)
[06:36] <Anchoito21> i need to install a sound card crystal cx4235
[06:36] <systemsos> mozilla-firefox?
[06:37] <FoolsRun> duarte: try apt-get install mozilla-firefox
[06:37] <Frogzoo> bullrage: depends on the file system - for fat you can use umask & dmask + uid/gid
[06:37] <nab> ok thx one sec
[06:37] <duarte> unmet dependencies
[06:37] <Intangir> how do i install java for firefox
[06:37] <railk> nab: im not sure havn't got ubuntu in front of me atm just gentoo :P
[06:37] <dr_willis> !java
[06:37] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[06:37] <livevil> I'm configuring samba, but I'm having trouble following the wiki, i there someone can help me?
[06:37] <Frogzoo> Intangir: in dapper, sun's jre is in the stock repos
[06:37] <Intangir> how do i make it work in firefox though
[06:37] <GaiaX11> I am already using Dapper Drake
[06:37] <systemsos> is it possible to install ATI (fglrx) in a 32bit chroot environment? For getting wine to work with Graphics card.
[06:37] <Frogzoo> !tell Intangir about java
[06:37] <bullrage> Frogzoo, ext3. At the moment I have to sudo to move files from one partition to another, but I want to be able to do it without sudo
[06:38] <nab> ok railk i have a ip address for my wireless, but what do i do with it? (its DHCP btw)
[06:38] <GaiaX11> Does it mean that it is stable?
[06:38] <ojai> After upgrading my Dell XPS laptop from Breezy to Dapper, my sound stopped working -- any suggestions?
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> GaiaX11: When did you start using Dapper?
[06:38] <Anchoito21> hi?
[06:38] <czer323> What IRC client do most people prefer?  I want something with at least the flexibility of changing the system message that appear.  I don't need to know that everyone has joined the channel.
[06:38] <GaiaX11> 4 weeks ago
[06:38] <cdubya> whew. was beginning to think I wasn't ever going to get Dapper to take.
[06:38] <Intangir> i already have java installed
[06:38] <dr_willis> czer323:  most all of them can do that.
[06:38] <railk> nab: well if yuo have an ip adress im really not sure :P
[06:38] <Intangir> but it wont run applets on firefox
[06:39] <Intangir> how do i make java, thats alreayd installed, work on firefox
[06:39] <dr_willis> czer323:  xchat - is fairly decent.
[06:39] <lAN^pARTY> hello everyone
[06:39] <toxic_> My sound doesn't work in Dapper. It worked in Breezy fine.
[06:39] <GaiaX11> tonyyarusso, 4 weeks ago
[06:39] <toxic_> Can someone help me?
[06:39] <lAN^pARTY> my totem no work say missed pluguins
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> GaiaX11: Then you were originally using development software that was not yet entirely ready.  As of June 1, it was finished.
[06:39] <lAN^pARTY> can anyone hel me please
[06:39] <cdubya> totem doesn't seem to want to work though, and I'm finding lots of little things....
[06:39] <Anchoito21> anyone can help me?
[06:39] <cdubya> this is going to be a long haul
[06:39] <toxic_> Please look at this thread --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1102616
[06:40] <czer323> dr> that's what I thought too... But i've been playing with xchat and the gnome version of xchat, and neither one seems to let me get rid of those extra status changes.
[06:40] <cdubya> !anyone
[06:40] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[06:40] <nab> lAN^pARTY: did you try easy ubuntu? it gets you most of the plugins needed, theres also automatix
[06:40] <dr_willis> czer323:  i manage to get rid of them all. theres a lot of /settings you can tweak. that dont hafe menu/config items as well
[06:40] <Sebast> I have tryed to upgrade to Dappar from Breezy, but it has screwed up.  I don't think the new kernel has been installed.  ,but the new version of Firefox so on has.  anyway when I try and boot the system I get error messages
[06:40] <cdubya> Anchoito21, what is it you needed help with?
[06:40] <nexu> anyone have repository for dbus 0.61 ?
[06:40] <czer323> !automatix
[06:40] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is dangerous! DO NOT use it, it has wrecked many systems. If you really insist on a script to do the work for you, consider EasyUbuntu (!easyubuntu, #easyubuntu).
[06:40] <dr_willis> czer323:  or go hardcore and use irssi
[06:40] <GaiaX11> tonyyarusso, does it mean that they already started sending the new cd's in Shipit?
[06:40] <lAN^pARTY> nab i,m new in ubuntu
[06:41] <nab> im new to
[06:41] <nab> too
[06:41] <nab> :P
[06:41] <lAN^pARTY> i use suse before
[06:41] <cindy> in the bounce(8) page, it says that it "maintains per-message log files with non-delivery status information", is anyone familiar with this daemon (its from postfix)?
[06:41] <lekant> suse is shit
[06:41] <lekant> seriously
[06:41] <lAN^pARTY> dapper you got
[06:41] <lekant> ubuntu is probably the best linux distro ever
[06:41] <nab> yp
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> GaiaX11: I think those are probably being shipped now, yes.  We've been able to place orders for a few weeks.
[06:41] <lAN^pARTY> lekant
[06:41] <lAN^pARTY> suse nice
[06:41] <lekant> no it's not
[06:41] <lekant> it's slow
[06:41] <dr_willis> lekant:  Probably? Bah! :P
[06:41] <lekant> i just installed 10.1 on a 2gb dell desktop
[06:41] <lAN^pARTY> yes
[06:41] <lekant> with a 2.4ghz intel cpu
[06:42] <lekant> and 2 geforce 6200's
[06:42] <lekant> firefox DOGGED
[06:42] <toxic_> My sound doesn't work in Dapper. It worked in Breezy fine.
[06:42] <toxic_> Can someone help me?
[06:42] <isluga> ola
[06:42] <lekant> yast2 is extremely cluggy and bloated
[06:42] <Frogzoo> Intangir: read the pm from ubotu & follow the wiki instructions
[06:42] <nab> i need an ubuntu guru now!!! :P
[06:42] <FoolsRun> toxic_: check for drivers?    We try to be nice and help but some of us don't like to see such things on our screen.
[06:43] <lekant> how the hell did they screw that up?
[06:43] <FoolsRun> nab: I just wanted to see you say "ubuntu guru' without getting tongue tied.
[06:43] <ompaul> lekant, Dont use that language thanks
[06:43] <toxic_> yea, i dont know what those ones are - nor do i know how to check if they are correct
[06:43] <lekant> the only thing novell is doing right is XGL
[06:43] <void^> lekant: relax
[06:43] <Sebast> hummmmmmmmmmm  anyone going to try and help me?  or am I Just wasting my time here at the moment
[06:43] <lAN^pARTY> lekant you right
[06:43] <GaiaX11> Sebast, do you really mean upgrade our downgrade?
[06:44] <nab> loll kk FoolsRun
[06:44] <Frogzoo> ompaul: screw is not bad language, just btw
[06:44] <ompaul> Frogzoo, read back
[06:44] <FoolsRun> toxic_: It's a Dell you said? you could call them and ask what sound hardware is in your machine...
[06:44] <Sebast> Breezy to Dappar  Gaix  so upgrade
[06:44] <toxic_> well, i know how to check for what sound hardware i have
[06:44] <Nisku> Hello all.
[06:44] <lekant> what i'm looking forward to is EnlightenmentXGL
[06:44] <ompaul> Sebast, did you >> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:44] <lAN^pARTY> what i should do for put my totem work
[06:44] <toxic_> Intel [HDA Intel] , device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]
[06:45] <lekant> or at least some of hte folks from the E team, doing an XGL composit window manager
[06:45] <lAN^pARTY> lekant you now
[06:45] <GaiaX11> Sebast, try to use system rescue cd to recover you system. You can find it in distrowatch
[06:45] <FoolsRun> toxic_: alsa should handle it. Make sure you have all the appropriate alsa drivers installed
[06:45] <Sebast> well to begin with I was doing the automatic upgrade of Breezy to Dappar, but then I cancalled that.  since it was late at night.  then this morning I did.  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade,  because it seemed to of suggested that I did that
[06:45] <Mortuis> Hey, I accedently halted a process.  how do I start it again?
[06:45] <fu|f|ej> hi i've just installed ubuntu for the first time, how do i check the login password for super user?
[06:45] <lekant> fg
[06:45] <lekant> mortuis: type fg
[06:46] <lekant> "foreground"
[06:46] <Mortuis> fg! Thank you, I couldn't remember it.
[06:46] <lekant> "bg" backgrounds a process
[06:46] <Mortuis> okay, thanks
[06:46] <fu|f|ej> im at the terminal window, i typed su but cant figure out the password
[06:46] <toxic_> what do i type in terminal?
[06:46] <patrick_> hey
[06:46] <lekant> fufu: it's whatever you set it to
[06:46] <ompaul> Sebast, by anychance did you have hoary on that box?
[06:46] <lekant> plus
[06:46] <lekant> su won't work
[06:46] <lekant> you have to use sudo
[06:46] <dr_willis> fu|f|ej:  use 'sudo -s
[06:46] <lekant> try "sudo -s"
[06:46] <ivoks> profoXP: i'm back
[06:46] <FoolsRun> fu|f|ej: ubuntu? there's no "root". Use sudo and type your user password when asked.
[06:46] <patrick_> does anyone know how to configre the remote desktop to 'listen' on certain ports
[06:46] <ompaul> !root
[06:46] <ubotu> Direct login as the root user is disabled in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:46] <lekant> the "root" acct is disabled right
[06:47] <profoXP> ivoks, wb, i got suspend-to-disk working on nvidia by following a wiki
[06:47] <Sebast> I used to have Hoary on this box, but I formatted that before doing a clean install of Breezy
[06:47] <ompaul> ^^ we don't need root for anything - its not the way you do things in ubuntu
[06:47] <ivoks> profoXP: nice :) then there is wiki :)
[06:47] <cdubya> so is the firefox that's bundled with Dapper a non-usable edition like the one I had on Breezy, or is it improved?
[06:47] <FoolsRun> ubuntu does root the way MacOS does root. It's sweet.
[06:47] <profoXP> ivoks, however, i cannot see the suspend-to-ram icon, is this because it is a desktop computer ?
[06:47] <ivoks> profoXP: did you blacklisted modules?
[06:47] <der_daniel> is the xorg.conf to ubuntu the same as the XF86Config to other distris?
[06:47] <fu|f|ej> alright got it
[06:47] <fu|f|ej> thanks all
[06:47] <ompaul> help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com lots of good info
[06:47] <ivoks> profoXP: yes, but if you are sure suspend to ram works on your computer, you can enable it
[06:47] <FoolsRun> cdubya: unusable FireFox? No...
[06:48] <cdubya> heh
[06:48] <dr_willis> der_daniel:  for the most part - they sould be compatiable.
[06:48] <Sebast> it seems FIrefox and some programs have been upgraded,  but the kernel itself has not
[06:48] <cdubya> FoolsRun, yeah, I know you can use it.....
[06:48] <cdubya> but I'm not.
[06:48] <Shaezsche> will a pentium M chip work with i586?
[06:48] <usuario> carmen
[06:48] <Sebast> and when turning on it looks like Breezy
[06:48] <Sebast> and trying to boot up
[06:48] <cdubya> because it's absolutely unacceptable to me how slow it is
[06:48] <systemsos> Has anyone successfully used wine in a chroot? -> with a graphics card?
[06:48] <usuario> hi!!!
[06:48] <profoXP> ivoks, euhm, only for my wireless USR pcmcia card.. acx, because ndiswrapper works better on this card
[06:48] <FoolsRun> cdubya: that sounds more like a personal choice than a question for the help channel, then
[06:48] <ivoks> profoXP: you just have to uncomment #ACPI_SLEEP=true in /etc/default/acpi-support
[06:48] <cdubya> FoolsRun, I'm not alone in the issue
[06:48] <JimBunder> How do I apply a patch to something when Im inisde the source directory?? *****
[06:48] <profoXP> ivoks, i already uncommented that
[06:49] <ivoks> profoXP: then that's it
[06:49] <toxic_> Has anyone else experienced sound not working w/ Dapper?
[06:49] <FoolsRun> cdubya: I'm sure you're not. You could try upgrading to the latest version of FireFox. Several versions have been released since Breezy...
[06:49] <Sebast> I thought apt-get dist-upgrade would update it to Dapper, but I guess I was wrong.  and it only did some programs or something.  I don't know
[06:49] <dr_willis> toxic_:  if you 'upgraded' i advise a clean reinstall.. or check the wiki/forums
[06:49] <dr_willis> !alsa
[06:49] <chrisbudden14> does anyone use the gmail manager firefox extention and is it still working (telling you if you have unread mail)
[06:49] <ubotu> I heard alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[06:49] <FoolsRun> cdubya: but other than that, your option is to use a different browser.
[06:49] <cdubya> FoolsRun, that's why I use Epiphany
[06:49] <Sebast> and now I carn't even boot up UBuntu.  anyone can help?
[06:49] <FoolsRun> cdubya: congrats.
[06:49] <toxic_> !alsa
[06:50] <fu|f|ej> im new to linux, what do they mean by X session?
[06:50] <profoXP> ivoks, yea, but it doesnt work, i cant see the suspend to ram icon, i can see it on my notebook though (but its not working there, its an ati laptop)
[06:50] <GaiaX11> toxic_, does you volume button moves?
[06:50] <ompaul> Sebast, so if you do this>>  gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   << without the <> do you see the word breezy there?
[06:50] <toxic_> i have made sure that there are no stupid hardware mistakes
[06:50] <Sebast> well  I carn't even boot up Ubuntu at the moment ompaul.
[06:50] <ivoks> profoXP: did you restart computer?
[06:50] <toxic_> volume is on, speakers work, connected correctly...
[06:50] <Sebast> so I carn't do that at the moment
[06:50] <profoXP> fu|f|ej, X session is a session where you are logged in into X, this is a graphical environment where you can run a desktop environment or windowmanager
[06:51] <Sebast> I guess I A
[06:51] <profoXP> ivoks, yes i did
[06:51] <Sebast> can some how mount it form a Live CD or something
[06:51] <MdSalih> is it possible to stick the contents of ubuntu live disk on a memory stick.. and use the memory stick as a live drive ?
[06:51] <toxic_> system volume is full blast..
[06:51] <ivoks> profoXP: hm...
[06:51] <Spliffster> ompaul: the gnome-session problem is resolved. reconfiguring gdm and xserver-xorg did not help (but not hurt also). by error i found out what the problelem is. in my ~/.profile i had the line "alias ls="ls --color" which prevented gnome-session to start propperly the first time. i really do not understand why gnome-session is interested in my ~/.profile (.bashrc ok, but .profile?). do you think this is an ubuntu or gnome bug ?
[06:51] <FoolsRun> toxic_: speakers on? ;)
[06:51] <fu|f|ej> ok thanks
[06:51] <ivoks> profoXP: ah... sec...
[06:51] <DarkLegacy> I want to dual-boot with Kubuntu.
[06:51] <profoXP> ivoks, ok
[06:51] <GaiaX11> toxic_, Can you move that?
[06:51] <toxic_> yea, there is nothing stupid like that
[06:51] <toxic_> can i move what?
[06:51] <GaiaX11> toxic_, up and down?
[06:51] <dr_willis> DarkLegacy:  dual boot what 2 os's ? Kubuntu and?
[06:52] <toxic_> the volume by the clock/
[06:52] <toxic_> ?
[06:52] <GaiaX11> toxic_, yes!
[06:52] <Sebast> ompaul  can you be more exact.  with help.  I am quite a Linux noob.  so you want me to stick Breezy Live CD and do something right or?
[06:52] <toxic_> yes - it goes up and down..
[06:52] <toxic_> and it isnt on mute
[06:52] <FoolsRun> toxic_: and alsa is installed?
[06:52] <ivoks> profoXP: i'm not sure... :/
[06:52] <ompaul> Sebast, if your that new I wonder what the best way for you progress is, let me think for a moment, what you want is to upgrade with least effort,
[06:52] <profoXP> ivoks, lol :)
[06:53] <toxic_> yep
[06:53] <toxic_> derek@ghost:~$ sudo apt-get install alsa
[06:53] <toxic_> Password:
[06:53] <toxic_> Reading package lists... Done
[06:53] <toxic_> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:53] <toxic_> Note, selecting alsa-base instead of alsa
[06:53] <toxic_> alsa-base is already the newest version.
[06:53] <GaiaX11> toxic_, so have a look in your permitions
[06:53] <ivoks> profoXP: there was something in gconf-editor, but i forgot what :)
[06:53] <profoXP> ivoks, thanks anyway.. i will look around..
[06:53] <dr_willis> toxic_:  normally if i play a sound in Juke or other players./. and i see the  'sound' display jumping up and down. its a sign theres a mixer muted/messed up some how.  or run the app from the shell and see if it spits out an error about opening the sound device
[06:53] <Sebast> actsaully I am not that new.  used Linux for about two years or so.  it's just I don't know loads of the commands and that.  so I still say I am noob
[06:53] <toxic_> permissions for what? alsa?
[06:53] <TheStonepedo> my google-fu is weak.  i want to find a linux app to manage recipes so i don't have to keep a deck of 3x5 cards
[06:53] <dr_willis> freshmeat.net
[06:53] <dr_willis> for all ya linux app needs. :P
[06:53] <GaiaX11> toxic_, for audio
[06:53] <dr_willis> well most of them
[06:54] <TheStonepedo> thanks dr_willis
[06:54] <MdSalih> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/dapper/flight-6/ <-- is that dead for anyone else ?
[06:54] <NET||abuse> i have a small problem with updating here.. my proxy i think is blocking apt from accessing the repos.
[06:54] <thoreauputic> TheStonepedo: there's a Krecipe I think from memory
[06:54] <NET||abuse> but my proxy is just an in series transparrent http proxy
[06:54] <toxic_> you are going to have to tell me what to do?
[06:54] <toxic_> i dont know how to change the permissions
[06:54] <NET||abuse> now, firefox seems quite ok on the net, but apt keeps getting 407 errors
[06:54] <NoUse> MdSalih why would you want the flight cd?
[06:54] <dr_willis> TheStonepedo:  Argh! now do a Pirate!.   p^)
[06:54] <ompaul> Sebast, do you understand the concept of chroot
[06:54] <Sebast> ompaul:  without doing the thing you suggested. I think that yes the system still thinks it's Breezy and not Dappar
[06:55] <thoreauputic> !info krecipes
[06:55] <ubotu> krecipes: (cooking book for KDE), section universe/kde, is optional.  The upgrade from Breezy to Dapper was flawless for my little Inspiron 6000.  Other than the new kernel, anyone know exactly what makes the Dapper release different from Breezy?
[06:55] <Sebast> ok i'll boot it from the Live CD now hang on
[06:56] <byen> Guys, can someone tell me how i can use my external usb drive which mounted on breezy but not on Dapper
[06:56] <MdSalih> excellent... i'll get that
[06:56] <roler> I currently run Debian on a Dell laptop that has an Intel 945GM / 950GMA video card... Debian just recently switched to Xorg 7.0 and for the life of me, I can't get the latest drm xorg drivers to compile... Thus my video is S L O W... I've heard that ubuntu has 945GM drm modules already compiled / ready to go. Can anyone confirm this?
[06:56] <ompaul> djcabz, its got a new gnome, its got updated packages and explore and you will find things
[06:56] <Spliffster> djcabz: do you have to use the 386 kernel on your laptop ?
[06:56] <TheStonepedo> that ubotu is handy.  i should get my very own knowledgeable bot-slave
[06:56] <toxic_> I see the line 'audio' - what do i do now?
[06:56] <TheStonepedo> !info ubotu
[06:56] <thoreauputic> !ubotu
[06:56] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[06:56] <mheath> roler, I can't confirm it, but I'm willing to bet it. Ubuntu places a huge emphasis on out-of-the-box hardware compatability.
[06:57] <Knorrie> TheStonepedo: http://svn.donarmstrong.com/blootbot/trunk/
[06:57] <GaiaX11> toxic_, are you there? In the line?
[06:57] <MdSalih> Is there a ubuntu 6.06 live CD ... or only live/install DVD combo ?
[06:57] <TheStonepedo> thanks Knorrie
[06:57] <pepinito> hi guys
[06:57] <toxic_> I see the line 'audio' - what do i do now?
[06:57] <pepinito> have a probem
[06:57] <TheStonepedo> this krecipe thing is champ
[06:57] <NoUse> MdSalih the live CD is an install CD as well
[06:57] <pepinito> mi machine doesnt boot
[06:57] <Spliffster> MdSalih: the default iso image of dapper is a live cd and the installation cd
[06:57] <roler> mheath; hmm. Maybe I should give it a try then. Do you know if it has Gnome 2.14 yet?
[06:57] <steina1> does anyone have a guide on how to get native icons in OO.o?
[06:57] <MdSalih> is it a CD or DVD
[06:57] <MdSalih> ?
[06:58] <GaiaX11> toxic_, put your username there and save the file
[06:58] <cartur25> Can I use konqueror in Ubuntu Dapper?
[06:58] <NoUse> MdSalih CD
[06:58] <djcabz> Spliffster: I'm running the 686 kernel I think - Linux myht 2.6.15-23-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue May 23 14:03:07 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:58] <thoreauputic> djcabz: of course
[06:58] <juantao> hello - probably been answered many times, but... ntpdate in 6.06 - anybody having troubles?
[06:58] <pepinito> I have 4 SCSI disks and the one i want to have ubuntu es the ID 5
[06:58] <toxic_> my username is there
[06:58] <MdSalih> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/6.06/release/ <-- i only see the dvd version :(
[06:58] <Knorrie> roler: yes, ubuntu dapper has gnome 2.14
[06:58] <thoreauputic> oops
[06:58] <Spliffster> steina1: if native means gnome for you, search for openoffice*gnome in synaptic or with apt-cache
[06:58] <jbroome> cartur25: check out kubuntu
[06:58] <thoreauputic> cartur25: of course
[06:58] <pepinito> then, if I unplug the other it works fine
[06:58] <mheath> roler, yep, sure does :)
[06:58] <toxic_> GaiaX11: The username is there.
[06:58] <thoreauputic> sorry djcabz ;)
[06:58] <NoUse> !tell MdSalih about dapper
[06:58] <pepinito> but if a tried to plug the other it just doesn't boot
[06:59] <roler> What is ubuntu dapper? Is that 6.06?
[06:59] <GaiaX11> toxic_, which is your sound card?
[06:59] <djcabz> ompaul: that actually is the best answer... ;)  I should explore!
[06:59] <cartur25> thoreauputic: How can I run konquerer if I'm running gnome and konquerer uses kde?
[06:59] <steina1> spliff: no, i meant native as in non-gnome, i think they are ***** awful
[06:59] <\login> i try to install ubuntu but i get a msg about the it cant use the cdrom....what to do?
[06:59] <Knorrie> roler: yes
[06:59] <Kyral_FreeBSD> cartur25: install it and run it?
[06:59] <NET||abuse> I have a problem getting down the updates.. and any new packages,,,, just my proxy requires authentication... now firefox has managed to authenticate just fine, but apt is not... how can i get proxy athentication set on my command line?
[06:59] <toxic_> Intel [HDA Intel] , device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]
[06:59] <GaiaX11> toxic_, is it on-board or off-board?
[06:59] <thoreauputic> cartur25: just install it
[06:59] <cartur25> lol k
[06:59] <toxic_> on-board
[06:59] <cartur25> Thanks guys
[06:59] <roler> ok then, I will try it. Thanks for the help... :)
[06:59] <thoreauputic> cartur25: it runs fine in gnome
[06:59] <secleinteer> hey, has any1 had trouble running 915resolution inside an xp vmware install of dapper drake?
[06:59] <Kyral_FreeBSD> cartur25: GNOME and KDE are pretty much swapable at will
[06:59] <cartur25> Thanks guys - peace :)
[06:59] <ninix> Hi
[07:00] <ompaul> thoreauputic, /me does ->> on production guess whats next sudo cp -R /var/cache/apt/archives/* .
[07:00] <GaiaX11> toxic_, have you seen if there is a driver for it in ubuntu?
[07:00] <mheath> roler, glad to help. Have fun, and good luck.
[07:00] <secleinteer> 11:59:13)  join: (egu<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:00] <secleinteer> (11:59:17) (secleinteer) hey, has any1 had trouble running 915resolution inside an xp vmware install of dapper drake?
[07:00] <secleinteer> (11:59:18)  join: (alainlucas<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:00] <secleinteer> 11:59:13)  join: (egu<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:00] <secleinteer> (11:59:17) (secleinteer) hey, has any1 had trouble running 915resolution inside an xp vmware install of dapper drake?
[07:00] <toxic_> no, i havent checked
[07:00] <TheStonepedo> MdSalih: http://mirror.cs.umn.edu/ubuntu-releases/6.06/ had CD versions when i used it
[07:00] <roler> What kind of packages does ubuntu use? .deb? .rpm or something else? Also is it easy to keep ubuntu up to date? Last questions I promise.
[07:00] <secleinteer> (11:59:18)  join: (alainlucas<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:00] <secleinteer> 11:59:13)  join: (egu<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:00] <Spliffster> djcabz: i can't tell you much aboutthis. but i have to use the 386 kernel with the "nolapic noapic" options so my laptop will boot. many laptops sill need kernel options and the ubuntu 686 does not seem to work well on some laptops. have you tried the 386 kernel and/or the various "common" (see installer grub help menu) kernel options ?
[07:00] <NoUse> !tell secleinteer about flood
[07:00] <secleinteer> (11:59:17) (secleinteer) hey, has any1 had trouble running 915resolution inside an xp vmware install of dapper drake?
[07:00] <secleinteer> (11:59:18)  join: (alainlucas<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:00] <toxic_> but it worked with Breeezy - so i dont know why it would stop working now
[07:00] <GaiaX11> toxic_, check it then!
[07:00] <Knorrie> secleinteer: stop that
[07:00] <alainlucas> secleinteer: you've a bug...
[07:00] <secleinteer> no i dont that
[07:00] <juantao> ntp trouble 6.06 ?
[07:00] <toxic_> would i check apt-get?
[07:00] <Agrajag> MdSalih: http://www.ubuntu.com/download pick a mirror
[07:00] <ninix> anyone have a idea about this small problem: my intel wireless card 3945 worked fine after the fresh installation of dapper. but now... iwconfig has no more wireless card o_O
[07:01] <almuleon> ola
[07:01] <GaiaX11> toxic_, no.
[07:01] <Agrajag> MdSalih: the CD images are there
[07:01] <TheStonepedo> it sure would be fun to troubleshoot secleinteer's problem before kicking him
[07:01] <mheath> Give him a break. He obviously accidentally copied/pasted some bits from IRC; its hard to get used to middle-click-will-paste, and some IRC clients will autosend such large amounts.
[07:01] <Spliffster> ninix: is the kernle module loaded ? try $ sudo modprobe <insert your kernel module here>
[07:01] <thoreauputic> TheStonepedo: i didn't kick him
[07:01] <djcabz> what is considered good for a cdrom drive when the hdparm -Tt /dev/cdrom command is issued...  specifcally for the buffered timings.
[07:01] <thoreauputic> TheStonepedo: it was a gag
[07:01] <dsas> xChantalx: Could you stop spamming please.
[07:02] <GaiaX11> toxic_, have a look in volume system preferences as well
[07:02] <djcabz> Spliffster, I haven't had problems with the 686 kernel... (afaik anyway)
[07:02] <ninix> Spliffster, yes, i got ipw3945 and ndiswrapper loaded.
[07:02] <MdSalih> Agrajag - I can't seem to find a link for the ubuntu "Live" Cd ?
[07:02] <NoUse> MdSalih its called the desktop cd
[07:02] <cdubya> heh, dapper with expose....
[07:02] <cdubya> heh
[07:02] <secleinteer> has any1 tried 915resolution at all?
[07:02] <MdSalih> Oh right
[07:02] <FoolsRun> cdubya: is there such a thing?
[07:02] <toxic_> yea, nothing
[07:02] <MdSalih> thanks for that
[07:02] <Agrajag> MdSalih: there's only one CD.
[07:02] <egu> newbiequestion: how do I set the root pw?
[07:02] <toxic_> i cant find anything out of the ordinary
[07:02] <cdubya> heh, well, it looks like it's trying....
[07:02] <Spliffster> ninix: hmmm .. .a friend of mine is using it succesfully on dapper on his ibm laptop ... strange
[07:02] <GaiaX11> toxic_, see if the soud is in a good volume
[07:02] <cdubya> ;)
[07:02] <Knorrie> !tell egu about root
[07:03] <toxic_> its is turned all the way up
[07:03] <mheath> egu, sudo passwd root
[07:03] <NoUse> Agrajag there is a "desktop" and a "alternate" cd
[07:03] <Agrajag> MdSalih: You boot the liveCD and install from the desktop
[07:03] <juantao> set root password - from a terminal sudo passwd root
[07:03] <djcabz> egu: sudo passwd root
[07:03] <MarcN> I just install Dapper/server on a handy HP ProLiant DL360 g2.  The only problem was the initial install boot needed NOAPIC
[07:03] <Spliffster> quiet some chatting in here since daper was released ... eh ?
[07:03] <GaiaX11> toxic_, in preferences?
[07:03] <Agrajag> NoUse: oh, I see
[07:03] <TheStonepedo> i install that 915resolution thing b/c i have that chipset but i have no idea what it does
[07:03] <TheStonepedo> *installed
[07:03] <ninix> Spliffster, yes very strange. and it was working very well before
[07:03] <oezguer> HI, What sholud i do? my XMMS works not so good, and now i cant close it  and play it, it seems at the destop HELP :(
[07:03] <toxic_> I go to System > Prefs > Sound
[07:03] <djcabz> egu: when prompted for the first password, enter your user password, then you can update the root password...  But really you shouldn't need to do that.
[07:03] <toxic_> and there is no volume bar there
[07:04] <toxic_> only on the taskbar
[07:04] <GaiaX11> toxic_, in open volume control?
[07:04] <FoolsRun> toxic_: ahh, that's not good. Sounds like you don't have a driver to me.
[07:04] <toxic_> yea, in volume control it is turned all the way up
[07:04] <djcabz> !tell djcabz about root
[07:04] <TheStonepedo> oezguer: i'd recommend trying another player
[07:04] <egu> ok.. looking into it.. ty!
[07:04] <toxic_> where can i install this driver?
[07:04] <\login> is ubuntu a good dist. for laptops?
[07:04] <juantao> sorry to keep asking... ntp trouble 6.06 ? time is messed up in several boxes
[07:05] <oezguer> Which one? THESTONEPEDO???
[07:05] <MarcN> \login: yes it is.
[07:05] <Spliffster> TheStonepedo: the 915G* cards have an error in the rom. they do not claim to support 1440x1050 resolution. thei (in essence) causes X11 not to support that resolution. the patch fixes these information on bootup and therefore X11 is able to detect the cards resolution modes propperly.
[07:05] <egu> djcabz: so just stick to using sudo?
[07:05] <GaiaX11> toxic_, right click volume control and you will see other options. Check them
[07:05] <FoolsRun> toxic_: do a search for your sound card, check to see if you have alsa installed completley, etc.
[07:05] <TheStonepedo> beep-media-player is a newer fork of xmms.  quod libet is pretty good as a library-based thing
[07:05] <toxic_> The default sounds card is - HDA Intel
[07:05] <juantao> laptops? yes first time in 7 years... wireless networking out of the box
[07:05] <TheStonepedo> oezguer: if you like winamp's media library or foobar in windows you'd probably like quod libet
[07:05] <oezguer> how can find and download it? THESTONEPDO?
[07:05] <Knorrie> juantao: be some specific? what do you mean by 'messed up' .. etc
[07:05] <Sebast> ompaul: ok finally got the Live CD booted up.  and am in Disks Manager.  how do I mount the disc?
[07:05] <\login> i have a problem when trying to install ubuntu on my laptop, it cant use the cd. when im trying to install.. i get the install menu etc...
[07:05] <djcabz> egu: that is how I've been running for well over a year now...
[07:05] <thoreauputic> TheStonepedo: I agree - quodlibet is nice
[07:05] <MarcN> juantao: were the starting time close to accurate?
[07:06] <egu> djcabz: ok..:)
[07:06] <moparfan90> hello. i deleted windows and installed ubuntu 6.6 32bit with a ati x800. when i start it up it works then after like 20sec-2 min it will just freeze up on me
[07:06] <ompaul> Sebast, in a terminal first do this, sudo mkdir /mountpoint
[07:06] <TheStonepedo> oezguer: sudo apt-get install quodlibet
[07:06] <oezguer> THANX VERY MUCH
[07:06] <djcabz> egu: you may want to do something like sudo -s
[07:06] <moparfan90> i think its the video drivers cause ubuntu worked on my old video card
[07:06] <TheStonepedo> oezguer: please dont' use capslock like that
[07:06] <Gecko> Hello. I cannot boot dapper. It stops in the very beginning of the bootup, right after the loading of hid_core. Does anyone have any ideas?
[07:06] <Nand0> Ubuntu have Firefox <IP_ADDRESS> the newest version?
[07:06] <toxic_> alsa is installed completely
[07:06] <TheStonepedo> Nand0: si
[07:06] <oezguer> oki
[07:06] <djcabz> egu: that way you have a terminal session with root access.... but it all depends on your security practices.
[07:06] <juantao> Knorrie - thanks. "no ntpdate servers available"
[07:06] <thoreauputic> still nearly a thousand in here days after release - wow
[07:06] <GaiaX11> toxic_, have you checked them out?
[07:06] <toxic_> I right clicked on volume control - and went to preferences
[07:07] <TheStonepedo> toxic_: what sound card do you have?
[07:07] <Knorrie> juantao: can you paste /etc/ntp.conf to pastebin.com?
[07:07] <thoreauputic> Nand0: 1.5.03 I believe
[07:07] <moparfan90> whats the package for ati drivers?
[07:07] <feestbijtje> Any one knows how to compile cedega from a scratch?
[07:07] <FoolsRun> TheStonepedo: Intel HDA he said.
[07:07] <FoolsRun> moparfan90: fglrx
[07:08] <toxic_> When i enter the "Volume Control Prefs" - there is a drop down box for "HDA Intel (Alsa Mixer)
[07:08] <moparfan90> is that the exact name?
[07:08] <juantao> knorrie yes gimme a few.
[07:08] <FoolsRun> moparfan90: I think so. Search synaptic to be sure.
[07:08] <FoolsRun> toxic_: but "hda intel" is checked in that drop-down?
[07:08] <Knorrie> juantao: be sure first to run the ntpdate program to set the clock, and then after doing that start ntp-server
[07:08] <toxic_> there are no checkboxes to check in "Volume Control Prefs"
[07:09] <moparfan90> foolsrun, i cant.. i am using my intergrated video and xorg wont start.. so i need the exact name... i dont know how to apt-get search anything
[07:09] <Sebast> ompaul:  hummmmmmm lol I was not thinking I Just ran that command on the Ubuntu on this lap top instead of the PC.  silly me.  I assume that dosan't matter.
[07:09] <toxic_> Yea, it is the one that is selected
[07:09] <Knorrie> juantao: ntp-server ignores ntp servers if your clock is way to much out of sync with the right time
[07:09] <ompaul> Sebast, your call
[07:09] <roler> is ubuntu easy to keep updated? Do they have a package updater/manager system?
[07:09] <FoolsRun> moparfan90: try fglrx, I think that's it.
[07:09] <Sebast> ompaul: meaning?
[07:09] <Knorrie> roler: apt? ;)
[07:09] <bullium> roler, yes it's very easy
[07:09] <thoreauputic> roler: yes and yes
[07:09] <roler> oh it uses apt?
[07:09] <roler> far out!
[07:09] <moparfan90> ok ill go try it... be back if it doesnt work
[07:09] <moparfan90> thanks
[07:09] <Knorrie> roler: ubuntu is based on debian
[07:09] <GaiaX11> toxic_, have you checked tha cables?
[07:10] <juantao> Knorrie - could be... these are donated boxes from a university -
[07:10] <FoolsRun> moparfan90: and then change your xorg.conf to use "fglrx" instead of whatever it's using now.
[07:10] <ompaul> Sebast, na it should not
[07:10] <toxic_> yea, that is fine
[07:10] <toxic_> i've told you guys already
[07:10] <toxic_> it is not my hardware - it is the OS
[07:10] <spin`> roler, :)
[07:10] <GaiaX11> toxic_, have a look in the driver
[07:10] <GaiaX11> modconf
[07:10] <GaiaX11> toxic_, modconf
[07:11] <jak> sooo how do i get 3d working with xinerama, or do i have to switch off xinerama everytime i want to use a opengl app?
[07:11] <FoolsRun> toxic_: have you checked synaptic for a more appropriate sound driver?
[07:11] <GaiaX11> toxic_, and see if the driver is on
[07:11] <toxic_> checking synaptic nopw...
[07:11] <Sebast> ompaul:  ok done it on the lap top.  didn't even ask me for a password unlike the PC
[07:11] <Sebast> I mean
[07:11] <Sebast> donet
[07:11] <FoolsRun> toxic_: do what GaiaX11 is suggestng first
[07:11] <Sebast> done it on the PC.  didn't even ask me for a password unlike the lap top.  I mean
[07:12] <GaiaX11> toxic_, modconf
[07:12] <toxic_> how do i see if the driver is on?
[07:12] <Gecko> Can anyone please help me? My dapper wont boot. Breezy boots fine (kernel 2.6.12). When I run the debug kernel thing, I can see it stops booting right after loading hid_core.o. Can any help me?
[07:12] <ompaul> Sebast, so have you mounted the drive?
[07:12] <Sebast> how do I mount it?
[07:12] <FoolsRun> toxic_: type modconf
[07:12] <toxic_> bash: modconf: command not found
[07:12] <rambo3> :p
[07:12] <GaiaX11> toxic_, install it them
[07:12] <Sebast> ompaul:  how do I mount it?
[07:13] <ompaul> Sebast, to that point that we just made - System Adminstration Disks and give the name point, and do something click on enable :)
[07:13] <toxic_> i cant find anything that has "Intel" and "Sound" in it
[07:13] <toxic_> Synaptic
[07:13] <Knorrie> juantao: and be sure your firewall doesn't block udp traffic from src port 123 out and established traffic in
[07:13] <GaiaX11> toxic_, install it then :-)
[07:13] <rambo3> toxic_ intelx80 driver ?
[07:13] <ompaul> Sebast, if you can't make this visible with the information you need to actually need to reinstall as the next parts are not trivial (no not at all easy)
[07:14] <oezguer> Thestonepedo: how can i full uninstall quod libet? sudo apt-get uninstall quodlibet? so=
[07:14] <toxic_> i dont know what i am looking for in modconf
[07:14] <jak> oezguer: almost, replace uninstall with remove
[07:14] <ompaul> that is it
[07:14] <reduz> modconf kind of ignores my stuff in ubuntu
[07:15] <GaiaX11> toxic_, sound drivers
[07:15] <oezguer> how? sudo apt-get remove  so?
[07:15] <jak> oezguer: sudo apt-get remove packagenamehere
[07:15] <Sebast> ompaul:  I don't want to format and re install Ubuntu
[07:15] <toxic_> ok, i found "kernal/sound/drivers/"
[07:16] <toxic_> i dont know how to use "modconf"
[07:16] <ompaul> Sebast, not wanting to and having to are two different things
[07:16] <Ron_o> shouldn't this work for folks: get the configuration for hardware from a liveCD and the approximate configuration should work on your on OS?
[07:16] <rambo3> never tested modconf owulent sudo lshw -C sound give more info
[07:16] <Gecko> What has changed between ubuntu breezy default kernel and ubuntu dapper default kernel since the latter wont boot on my sys?
[07:16] <Sebast> ompaul:  anyway as I was saying  I can type where it says Access Path is that what I want?
[07:16] <GaiaX11> oezguer, dpkg  --purge packagename
[07:16] <Sebast> if so what do I put?
[07:17] <djcabz> is anyone using the 'xchat-gnome' package?  Can you say whether it is "better" than the xchat-common package...
[07:17] <jak> how do i get 3d working with xinerama, or do i have to switch off xinerama everytime i want to use a opengl app?
[07:17] <oezguer> thanx  GaixaX11:  sudo apt-get dpkg -- quodlipet   right?
[07:17] <ompaul> Sebast, question is the desktop a ubuntu box?
[07:17] <Satano> hello everyone
[07:17] <Khamael> how do I get subtitles with .mkv files in mplayer?
[07:17] <NET||abuse> hey all, so dapper supports xgl perhaps?? how do i get this running?? :)
[07:17] <Sebast> ompaul:  The PC has Ubuntu and XP on it
[07:17] <ompaul> !xgl
[07:17] <ubotu> I guess xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[07:17] <GaiaX11> oezguer, yup!
[07:18] <NET||abuse> thanks omgpaul
[07:18] <ompaul> Sebast, so you can move data to the pc
[07:18] <ricardo> s
[07:18] <nomego_> Hmm I just installed ubuntu onto a laptop with built-in winbond wireless card.. anybody know where to get info on how to get that one to work? with ndiswrapper or whatever?
[07:18] <Satano> I cannot connect to the internet from ubuntu (Dapper Drake) ... can anybady helo me?
[07:18] <Sebast> ompaul:  move data to the PC what you mean?
[07:18] <GaiaX11> oezguer, no
[07:18] <Sebast> ompaul:  move data to XP you mean?
[07:18] <oezguer> how?
[07:18] <cdubya> oezguer, sudo apt-get install quodlibet
[07:18] <mumbles> dose anyone know how you run dircproxey ?
[07:19] <Knorrie> cdubya: oezguer wants to remove
[07:19] <cdubya> ah
[07:19] <ompaul> Sebast, if you need to save it you can do it to the ubuntu box or the xp one
[07:19] <oezguer> no no i just wanna COMPLETEY uninstall
[07:19] <LiteWait> With 6.06 is ndiswrapper still available?  I can find it using the package manager.
[07:19] <Knorrie> oezguer: lol -> apt-get remove --purge <packagename>
[07:19] <Scorpmoon> uhm, why does London come up as "GMT+1" during installation?
[07:19] <LiteWait> s/can/can't/
[07:19] <GaiaX11> oezguer, no. dpkg --purge packagename
[07:19] <cdubya> heh
[07:19] <jak> oezguer: then this will do "sudo apt-get remove --purge quodlibet"
[07:19] <Knorrie> oezguer: the dpkg --purge does the same
[07:20] <thoreauputic> oezguer: open a terminal and type sudo apt-get remove --purge quodlibet
[07:20] <GaiaX11> toxic_, have you found your driver?
[07:20] <GaiaX11> in modconf?
[07:20] <oezguer> i did it Than you very much!!
[07:20] <toxic_> GaiaX11: I said that I dont know how to use modconf
[07:20] <mr_clark> Is Nagios 2.4 available in Ubuntu?
[07:20] <ompaul> Sebast, so have you anything important on the laptop (and I take it that is where the o/s is that is having problems)
[07:21] <Scorpmoon> why why oh why does London come up as GMT+1 during installation?
[07:21] <Scorpmoon> copenhagen is GMT+2
[07:21] <Scorpmoon> you guys live in another time?
[07:21] <Sebast> ompaul:  infact now I am also having problems with XP.  whilst trying to play my game.  yeah blue screen of death so on,  but that's another story
[07:21] <ompaul> Scorpmoon, BST = GMS+1
[07:22] <Scorpmoon> but london is not greenwich mean time?
[07:22] <ompaul> Sebast, reinstall the that box and get away from the laptop - install windows first and then add
[07:22] <Anchoito21> anyone knows how install a soundcard crystal CX4235 in ubuntu?
[07:22] <ompaul> Scorpmoon, not in the British Summer Time
[07:22] <GaiaX11> toxic_, sudo modconf
[07:22] <ompaul> @utc
[07:22] <jak> the clocks change!
[07:22] <ompaul> @now utc
[07:22] <thoreauputic> Scorpmoon: they claim to have a summer ;-)
[07:22] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: June 06 2006, 17:23:00
[07:23] <ompaul> @now london
[07:23] <Ubugtu> Current time in Europe/London: June 06 2006, 18:23:07
[07:23] <GaiaX11> toxic_, select kernel/sound/pci
[07:23] <Scorpmoon> LOL, it's STILL called GMT+1 you numbwits!
[07:23] <jak> thoreauputic: hey! the sun is out right now!
[07:23] <pools_> does anybody know how to make konquerer the default file browser in gnome in 6.06 ?
[07:23] <toxic_> GaiaX11: ok
[07:23] <rambo3> Anchoito21, whos making the card ?
[07:23] <Selaiah> When I try to activate my Wlan Card with "sudo ifup ra0" I get this error message: "Interface doesn't accept private ioctl... set (8BE2): Invalid argument Failed to bring up ra0." Does anyone know what might be causing this and what can be done to get rid of it?
[07:23] <ompaul> thoreauputic, I will have you know road temp in Dublin today was 36
[07:23] <GaiaX11> toxic_, there are two intel drivers there
[07:23] <thoreauputic> jak: I bet it's oh, over 2o degrees C too :)
[07:23] <codecaine> whats a recommended vnc server or ubuntu
[07:23] <jak> thoreauputic: 26!
[07:23] <steina1> pools: gnome-default-applications-properties
[07:23] <thoreauputic> ompaul: in January here it hit 45 degrees
[07:23] <GaiaX11> toxic_, if it has a "-", so it is not on
[07:23] <toxic_> GaiaX11: which intel do i choose?
[07:24] <rikai> codecaine: the one that comes with it.
[07:24] <rambo3> Selaiah, what does sudo dhclint ra0 say?
[07:24] <cdubya> pools_, or System > Administration > Preferred Applications
[07:24] <thoreauputic> ompaul: admittedly the hottest for 70 years though ;)
[07:24] <rambo3> seliah dhclinet
[07:24] <rongenre> FoolsRun so i've booted ubuntu again
[07:24] <GaiaX11> toxic_, see your chepset
[07:24] <ompaul> thoreauputic, 26 oC atm and its 6:34
[07:24] <codecaine> vino?
[07:24] <GaiaX11> toxic_, see your chipset
[07:24] <pools_> thanks ill try it later
[07:24] <thoreauputic> ompaul: pleasnatly warm then
[07:24] <rikai> codecaine: indeed.
[07:24] <cdubya> err, System > Preferences > Preferred Applications :)
[07:24] <FoolsRun> rongenre: and you're looking at your networking preferences?
[07:24] <chamo> anyone got a way to resolve the fglrx (ATI Cards) problem under Dapper ?
[07:24] <rongenre> FoolsRun yeah, "network settings"
[07:24] <toxic_> GaiaX11: i just installed the first one
[07:24] <codecaine> I type vino in the terminal nothing came up
[07:24] <chamo> it's a mess
[07:24] <codecaine> and tried man on it
[07:25] <ompaul> thoreauputic, :-)
[07:25] <rongenre> FoolsRun I gave it my ssid, I don't have wep turned on
[07:25] <toxic_> GaiaX11: im going to do a restart
[07:25] <rikai> codecaine: err, its in the gui, under "remote desktop"
[07:25] <thoreauputic> codecaine: /usr/lib/vino-server I think
[07:25] <rongenre> it did some stuff [I think running dhcp client]  for a while, was unable to get an ip address
[07:25] <codecaine> ty
[07:25] <GaiaX11> toxic_, ok!
[07:25] <jak> how do i get 3d working with xinerama, or do i have to switch off xinerama everytime i want to use a opengl app?
[07:25] <steev> hey all, im a Gentoo developer, who finally installed Ubuntu on a spare (work) laptop - aside from kernel-source-2.6.15, how can i pull in just the patches that Debian has applied?
[07:25] <FoolsRun> rongenre: make sure "dhcp" is checked and not "static ip"
[07:25] <rongenre> done
[07:25] <steev> s/Debian/Ubuntu
[07:25] <Nisku> WIll dapper get Gnome 2.16 when it is released or will that go into the next version of Ubuntu?
[07:25] <thoreauputic> /usr/lib/vino/vino-server  actually
[07:25] <FoolsRun> rongenre: and it still doesn't work?
[07:25] <cdubya> well, totem doesn't work for me in dapper
[07:26] <thoreauputic> crazy place for vino to live...
[07:26] <rongenre> foolsrun, yes
[07:26] <rongenre> foolsrun, doesn't work
[07:26] <jak> steev: add the debian repositories. although thats probably a bad idea.
[07:26] <FoolsRun> hey everyone, what's the ubuntu equivilent of ipconfig?
[07:26] <thoreauputic> jak: a VERY bad idea
[07:26] <rongenre> foolsrun: iwconfig shows eth0.
[07:26] <rongenre> ifconfig
[07:26] <FoolsRun> hehe
[07:26] <thoreauputic> FoolsRun:  ifconfig
[07:26] <jak> FoolsRun: ifconfig
[07:26] <FoolsRun> alrighty then
[07:26] <rikai> Nisku: dapper is already out. check packages.ubuntu.com to see what version of gnome is included.
[07:26] <Selaiah> rambo3: I haven't tried that. (aint running dhcp), shall i boot my linux and check? or is it not relevant if i dont have dhcp?
[07:27] <steev> jak: i just want the patches themselves - i tried looking on packages.ubuntu.com, but the patch there definitely didn't list what i am looking for
[07:27] <FoolsRun> rongenre: is wifi0 telling you it's active in the preferences window?
[07:27] <__filip_> Why cant i install linux-headers-2.6.15-22-386 ?
[07:27] <moparfan90> hello again.... i have 6.6 installed and when im trying my login name the letters turn blue and red and the screen freezes up. i have a ati x800 and i have the ati control center install. any suggestions?
[07:27] <jak> Nisku: 2.14.1 gnome is runing in my dapper
[07:27] <thoreauputic> !ati
[07:27] <ubotu> ati is, like, http://doc.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html#installatidriver or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ... the radeon 9200 and below are supported by the open-source drivers
[07:27] <rongenre> foolsrun:  I see "wireless connection" on eth0, no wifi0
[07:27] <oezguer> Can anyone give me  some links for nice new games and programms for ubuntu ?for download
[07:27] <rambo3> Selaiah, if you aint useing dhclient dont , use forums to ceach ralink howto
[07:27] <FoolsRun> rongenre: that's weird...
[07:28] <oezguer> i looked at internet but no so good names
[07:28] <oezguer> found
[07:28] <FoolsRun> rongenre: go into the preferences again and disable eth0
[07:28] <felipe__> Hello, does anyone know if there is a GnuPG plugin for Evolution?
[07:28] <thoreauputic> !tell oezguer about docs
[07:28] <rongenre> foolsrun: done
[07:28] <Nisku> jak:  True but the devel version of Gnome due in Sept is 2.15 (to be 2.16) .  I just wonder if an upgrade will be available to Dapper or will it be in the next Ubuntu release.
[07:28] <Selaiah> rambo3: I've used the ralink howto (from the wiki)
[07:28] <cdubya> tRSS, yup
[07:28] <FoolsRun> rongenre: double check that wifi0 is reporting as active in the preferences.
[07:28] <oezguer> Thoreapuctic: documents games nice programs but new and popular
[07:29] <toxic_> GaiaX11: still no sound... :(
[07:29] <rongenre> wifi0 doesn't show up at all
[07:29] <steev> jak: specifically, im looking for the prism54_softmac stuff
[07:29] <rambo3> Selaiah, ok , mine(Stone123) or thread posters ?
[07:29] <tRSS> my GL screensavers aren't working. any ideas about how I can fix it?
[07:29] <jak> Nisku: seeing as the next ubuntu release shold be in october i would guess that it would be in the next release
[07:29] <Scorpmoon> aaaaaaargh i don't get it... system clock in top-left says 19:29, but timezone dialog box says 21:29 (GMT+2)
[07:29] <Selaiah> rambo3: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/RalinkRT2500?action=show&redirect=Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo
[07:30] <Scorpmoon> DO I RESET 21:29 TO 19:29 OR WHAT DO I DO?
[07:30] <Selaiah> thats the one i used
[07:30] <FoolsRun> rongenre: are you sure you have a driver for your wifi card?
[07:30] <thoreauputic> !CAPS
[07:30] <ubotu> FYI, typing in ALL CAPS is considered to be 'yelling', and therefore rude behaviour.
[07:30] <oezguer> Thoreauputic: u know good web sites for ubuntu programs and games?
[07:30] <__filip_> What kernel is using in Dapper?
[07:30] <oezguer> Thoreauputic: to download
[07:30] <rongenre> foolsrun:  lsmod | grep orinoco brings up orinoco_cs, orinoco and hostap_cs
[07:30] <rambo3> Selaiah, that was for breezy are you using dapper?
[07:30] <thoreauputic> oezguer: open the app add/remove menu and have a look
[07:31] <MarcN> oezguer: Use synaptic or apt-get on the command line to find new software to install.
[07:31] <Scorpmoon> hey, if someone could just post an install doc somewhere, maybe I wouldnt have to shout
[07:31] <Selaiah> Yeah Rambo3
[07:31] <Satano> Hello. I have D-Com V3 router connected to 3Com 3C900 ethernet card. Router IP is <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>
[07:31] <Satano> I am not able to connect to internet ... I even can't ping the router. Can anybody help me what shoul I set up?
[07:31] <oezguer> i looked there but i m looking new and good things
[07:31] <FoolsRun> rongenre: can you modprobe them?
[07:31] <Sebast> 1
[07:31] <Sebast> 2
[07:31] <Sebast> 3
[07:31] <thoreauputic> oezguer: why download when you have 17 000 programs to choose from ?
[07:31] <rongenre> foolsrun oh  they're loaded... when i booted
[07:31] <thoreauputic> !enter
[07:31] <oezguer> wowwww
[07:31] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying.
[07:31] <Admiral> is the security level "user" going to force my users to log in on samba
[07:31] <JimBunder> jhunt@jhunt-linux:/usr/games/wine-0.9.14/wine-0.9.14~winehq1~ubuntu~6.06$ dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -b
[07:31] <JimBunder> dpkg-buildpackage: source package is wine
[07:31] <JimBunder> dpkg-buildpackage: source version is 0.9.14~winehq1~ubuntu~6.06-1
[07:31] <JimBunder> dpkg-buildpackage: source changed by Scott Ritchie<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:31] <JimBunder> dpkg-buildpackage: host architecture i386
[07:31] <RandolphCarter> Admiral: you need to run 'sudo smbpasswd *username*'
[07:31] <JimBunder> dpkg-checkbuilddeps: error: per-package paragraph 5 in control info file is missing Package line
[07:32] <thoreauputic> !tell oezguer about repos
[07:32] <JimBunder> dpkg-buildpackage: Build dependencies/conflicts unsatisfied; aborting.
[07:32] <FoolsRun> rongenre: I guess it could be identifying as eth0... do you have wired card in there, too?
[07:32] <JimBunder> dpkg-buildpackage: (Use -d flag to override.)
[07:32] <jak> dont pasteYOUR SHIT IN HERE
[07:32] <JimBunder> What did I do wrong?
[07:32] <rongenre> foolsrun: no, no wired card
[07:32] <Admiral> JimBunder: paste bin
[07:32] <thoreauputic> JimBunder: never do that again
[07:32] <Sebast> abcdefg  heh time to get out here now I think before I decide to flood the channel and get booted :d
[07:32] <oezguer> Thoreauputic: but games are simple, i want with nice grafics and so
[07:32] <rambo3> Selaiah, thats wrong for ralink use this one for dapper : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132980&highlight=rt61
[07:32] <thoreauputic> !games
[07:32] <ubotu> I heard games is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[07:32] <FoolsRun> rongenre: I guess eth0 is your wireless card then, but why is it identifying as two different devices?
[07:32] <nf4> Hello I was wondering if there were any bad results from running nvidia settings under 6.06 the guide for the nvidia drivers said not to install them as they would remove the  drivers well i have the drivers install and i also install a system info tool that seemed to come wth nvidia settings
[07:32] <nf4> i dont know if that is a bad thing or not
[07:32] <rongenre> foolsrun: it only shows up as eth0
[07:32] <grogoreo> join #wacom
[07:32] <Selaiah> rambo3, thanks a ton ;) I shall try that
[07:32] <keherman> Where can I print out the free Official Ubuntu Book chapters?
[07:32] <grogoreo> hi
[07:33] <JimBunder> sorry :(
[07:33] <oezguer> ubotu thanx , and thanx for all friends
[07:33] <ubotu> oezguer: sure thing
[07:33] <grogoreo> I'm using a Wacom Graphire4 tablet with GIMP and I have enabled it, but for some reason the crosshair for the brush is offsetted to the actual System cursor. Is there a reason for this?
[07:33] <Admiral> RandolphCarter: no. i want my users to log in when they want to get files
[07:33] <Admiral> how can i do that with samba
[07:33] <oezguer> thanx i m looking now
[07:33] <thoreauputic> JimBunder: the channel is busy enough without floods :)
[07:33] <FoolsRun> and eth0 is configured properly, the correct ssid and dhcp settings... and ifconfig shows nothing.
[07:33] <rambo3> Selaiah, read the thread before starting you can use scrupt for dhcp if you enble it that i posted at the back of the thread , auto cinfig
[07:33] <rongenre> foolsrun: i'm tempted to put in a wired card though and see if an apt-get will fix things
[07:33] <Admiral> i changed the security level to user
[07:33] <rongenre> foolsrun: no, eth0 shows up in ifconfig
[07:33] <rongenre> foolsrun: just no ip address
[07:34] <Selaiah> rambo3: I'm using a rt2500 and not a rt61 tho, is it the same for rt2500 then?
[07:34] <RandolphCarter> Admiral: if you're running Samba on the box, you need to run 'smbpasswd' for each user you want to access it remotely
[07:34] <RandolphCarter> Admiral: then they can login and access their home directory
[07:34] <Admiral> yea i did that
[07:34] <FoolsRun> ubuntu doesn't ship with a wifi sniffer app does it?
[07:34] <rambo3> Selaiah, what card do yo have?
[07:34] <Admiral> but user level is the security level to use. if i use the one under that, it doesnt require a password
[07:35] <Selaiah> Linksys WMP54G (using the Ralink RT2500 chip)
[07:35] <thoreauputic> !info aircrack
[07:35] <ubotu> aircrack: (wireless WEP cracker), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 2.1-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 25 kB, Installed size: 108 kB
[07:35] <thoreauputic> FoolsRun: use it responsibly if you install it :)
[07:35] <jaro> can anybody help me to convert .tgz into .png , right ?
[07:36] <thoreauputic> jaro: erm, those are different things
[07:36] <toxic_> GaiaX11: hellllllllooooo
[07:36] <keherman> Where can I print out the free Official Ubuntu Book chapters?
[07:36] <jak> jaro: lol, convert a compressed folder to a picture?
[07:36] <FoolsRun> rongenre: you might try that, if you can get it installed, to see if your card will see networks
[07:36] <thoreauputic> jaro: is the tgz a compressed png?
[07:36] <Loki|muh> hi, I have a problem with my locales... locales-gen produces no locales and dpkg-reconfigure locales does nothing execpt showing my timezone: http://sial.org/pbot/17611
[07:36] <rongenre> foolsrun:  i'll try that, this is frustrating though :(
[07:36] <Selaiah> rambo3: (dunno if my last msg came through) - I'm using a Linksys WMP54G (PCI Card), which uses the Ralink RT2500 chip.
[07:37] <FoolsRun> rongenre: I can imagine. My wifi card worked just fine after configuring it.
[07:37] <FoolsRun> after configuring my network settings that is
[07:37] <errpast2> trying to install a perl module (NET::IRC).  can't find a package via apt-cache search
[07:37] <rongenre> foolsrun: oh mine too, i've been running debian variants on this box since 2003
[07:37] <errpast2> >cpan install NET::IRC gives me lot's of make test and make install errors that are beyond my knowlege to fix
[07:37] <MarcN> errpast2: apt-cache search irc perl       will turn up libnet-irc-perl
[07:37] <FoolsRun> But dapper broke it. Strange. your other guess about running an apt-get might be the answer, too
[07:38] <Loki|muh> even if I fill /etc/locale.gen with data locale-gen does nothing :(
[07:38] <ganon> pues parece que ya se soluciono
[07:38] <ganon> :)
[07:38] <rambo3> Selaiah, ok , you did download drivers and configured /etc/wireless dat file?
[07:39] <nf4> dose any one have nvidia settings installed on 6.06 with out removeing the drivers?
[07:39] <errpast2> MarcW  thx.  I'm not at that machine now.  Will this include that NET::IRC module?
[07:39] <idefix_> I have a link and I'd like it in my menu, why can't I just drag and drop it?
[07:39] <Selaiah> rambo3: No i thought i wouldnt have tho. A rt2500 driver came with ubuntu and it was detected as such
[07:39] <rongenre> foolrun: yeah, we'll see.. i just plugged in my wired card and it picked things up immediately
[07:39] <idefix_> after using add appl
[07:39] <thoreauputic> idefix_: use the menu editor
[07:40] <idefix_> thoreauputic, is that the same as application adding?
[07:40] <thoreauputic> idefix_: no
[07:40] <egu> atm I'm using the included Gaim IRC client in Ubuntu, but is there any other recommended clients?
[07:40] <Morrowyn> mroning
[07:40] <leku> !xgl
[07:40] <thoreauputic> idefix_: it's a separate program
[07:40] <FoolsRun> idefix_: adding an app should have added it to your menu automatically
[07:40] <czer323> !nvidia
[07:40] <ubotu> well, xgl is "XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/"
[07:40] <ubotu> Help about installing the nVidia drivers on Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia, or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1083433&postcount=3
[07:40] <rongenre> !orinoco
[07:40] <ubotu> rongenre: Not a clue. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[07:40] <rongenre> feh ;-)
[07:40] <thoreauputic> FoolsRun: not in every case, unfortunately
[07:40] <idefix_> FoolsRun, yes but I cannot add it, the search with appl. add. doesn't result in anything
[07:41] <czer323> egu> i'm trying to find a better client myself right now.  Let me know if you find something good.  xchat-gnome looks pretty, but it's not nearly as good as mIRC was.
[07:41] <paul_> How do you get dapper to play dvd ?
[07:41] <thoreauputic> idefix_: what did you install ?
[07:41] <idefix_> oh, it's called CGoban
[07:41] <idefix_> there's a link on my desktop, everything works fine
[07:41] <thoreauputic> idefix_: did you install from the repositories?
[07:41] <idefix_> no, with a shell script
[07:42] <FoolsRun> eep
[07:42] <thoreauputic> idefix_: that's the problem
[07:42] <steina1> paul_:search google for libdvdcss2 for ubuntu/debian
[07:42] <rambo3> Selaiah, ok then network-manager should fix that
[07:42] <stevejesus> longtime no chat guys
[07:42] <stevejesus> how is everyone
[07:42] <thoreauputic> idefix_: the system doesn't know it exists
[07:42] <thoreauputic> idefix_: add it with menu editor
[07:42] <paul_> Oh cool so basically its the same as in breezy more or less.
[07:42] <Morrowyn> paul, install libdvdread3
[07:42] <Maerksi> hello :)
[07:42] <stevejesus> looking for a text-mode bit torrent client.  can anyone direct me towards a good one?
[07:42] <Maerksi> I'm quitting windows and will install ubuntu soon
[07:43] <jak> how do i get 3d working with xinerama, or do i have to switch off xinerama everytime i want to use a opengl app?
[07:43] <Maerksi> please tell me, how many partitions are recommended?
[07:43] <Maerksi> I mean, /, usr and swap ?
[07:43] <Selaiah> rambo3: Yeah I can activate the card with the network manager. (although when i type sudo ifup ra0 I get the error still and the card shows as inactive in network manager again). Anyhow, its not connecting either way to my WPA2 encrypted network =(
[07:43] <thoreauputic> idefix_: check the properties of your desktop link and use that command in the menu editor
[07:43] <Maerksi> or I, usr, swap and home ?
[07:43] <stevejesus> Maerksi, / and swap.  installer will do it for you
[07:43] <Maerksi> :)
[07:44] <idefix_> thoreauputic, where's the menu editor?
[07:44] <stevejesus> Maerksi, i do /, home, swap
[07:44] <thoreauputic> idefix_: system tools, from memory
[07:44] <Maerksi> stevejesus but when reinstalling, won't I loose everything? Should I create at least a /home ?
[07:44] <Maerksi> ah yes
[07:44] <Maerksi> :)
[07:44] <Maerksi> thats it
[07:44] <jak> Applications -> Accessories -> Alacarte Menu Editor....
[07:44] <rambo3> Selaiah, i would try to configure it with iwconfig then
[07:44] <czer323> stevejesus> I believe bittornado should already be installed on 6.06 as aprt of the base.
[07:44] <stevejesus> Maerksi, i have a seperate drive for home, that i carry with me always.
[07:45] <oezguer> Ubotu: are u there? i found a game ; street fighter  but under Debian, i have ubuntu, is it ok ? to install and play :)
[07:45] <ubotu> oezguer: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[07:45] <Maerksi> that means that I will keep my progs or my files on /home ?
[07:45] <stevejesus> Maerksi, you can always tar up your home and then extract it after you reinstall to the desired mount pint
[07:45] <thoreauputic> oezguer: ubotu is a bot :)
[07:45] <Selaiah> rambo3, any hints on where i could read up on how to do that?
[07:45] <czer323> !ubotu
[07:45] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[07:45] <kung> !mouse
[07:45] <ubotu> it has been said that mouse is Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev Installing extra cursor themes can be done easily with gcursor
[07:45] <oezguer> aa ok :))
[07:45] <rambo3> !iwconfig
[07:45] <ubotu> Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, rambo3
[07:45] <Maerksi> I see :)
[07:45] <idefix_> thoreauputic, I use ubuntu, there's only system prefs and admin
[07:45] <oezguer> i m too stupid :)))
[07:45] <stevejesus> czer323, well im not familiar with it.  i just did a apt-get bittornado, but i cant seem to find the executable
[07:45] <czer323> lol ;)
[07:46] <daxxar> When is /etc/security/limits.conf read by the system?
[07:46] <kung> my stupid mouse hangs once in a while since a few days, I didn't change anything, except installing current dapper updates
[07:46] <stevejesus> czer323, i dont see any reason why apt wouldnt put it in my path
[07:46] <thoreauputic> idefix_: depends on if you upgraded or installed - my laptop has the menu editor under system tools
[07:46] <kung> any ideas?
[07:46] <Maerksi> but /home stores the users files (like suppose .doc stuff) or the whole apps (like word.exe) - just an example
[07:46] <Linuturk> anyone know of a good, centrally managed time clock software?
[07:46] <Maerksi> user files only I suppose?
[07:46] <thoreauputic> idefix_: look under Accessories or Sytem
[07:46] <thoreauputic> *system
[07:46] <oezguer> Thoreauputic: a game for debian , can i play it at ubuntu?
[07:47] <rambo3> Selaiah, sudo iwconfig ra0 (press tab) . there is a big readme  that comes with drivers http://www.ralinktech.com/drivers/Linux/RT2500-Linux-STA-<IP_ADDRESS>.tar.gz
[07:47] <thoreauputic> idefix_: and I have dapper on all my machines now :)
[07:47] <czer323> oezguer> typically yes.  ubuntu is based on debian.
[07:47] <oezguer> super Special Thanx
[07:47] <thoreauputic> oezguer: installing debian packages is not a good idea
[07:47] <stevejesus> Maerksi, yes, apps are generally installed in / somewhere and then symlinked to your path.  unless you decide to install something in /home.  or if you are installing usung klik
[07:47] <thoreauputic> czer323: debian packages are not always binary compatible
[07:47] <oezguer> aa ok,
[07:47] <DustyDingo> hi
[07:48] <Maerksi> so home stores your documents? like videos, pictures, openoffice docs, etc ?
[07:48] <DustyDingo> how can i start nfslock?
[07:48] <Selaiah> rambo3: I'll try that readme then, thanks
[07:48] <thoreauputic> Maerksi: right
[07:48] <Maerksi> :)
[07:48] <Maerksi> thanx
[07:48] <thoreauputic> Maerksi: in fact all user files
[07:48] <idefix_> thoreauputic, where can I find the icon? what extension does it have?
[07:48] <czer323> toreauputic> i'll keep that in mind next time.
[07:48] <stevejesus> Maerksi, what ever you wants to put there man.  look at it like c:/documents and settings in windows, which is where you my documents, my pictures are etc...
[07:48] <nf4> well mostly i was wonding why the guide claims that I cant have both nvidia settings and nvidia drivers installed  I seem to have both running just fine
[07:48] <Maerksi> also, I've heard that kubuntu has a better support for bluetooth than ubuntu, is this true?
[07:48] <jak> is ti possible to have direct rendering enabled with xinerama?
[07:49] <stevejesus> Maerksi, i have no experience with bluetooth devices
[07:49] <nf4> under 6.06 the guide isnt clear about that
[07:49] <XVampireX> Is there any program like Katapult on gnome/ubuntu ?
[07:49] <thoreauputic> idefix_:  dpkg -L <packagename> | grep .png  <-- but that only works for packages and ones with png icons
[07:49] <Maerksi> I see :)
[07:49] <stevejesus> Maerksi, i am sure the support is similiar as they both use the same obex drivers
[07:49] <giordano> oi
[07:49] <giordano> alguem aor.
[07:49] <Maerksi> :)
[07:49] <ompaul> !es
[07:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:49] <thoreauputic> idefix_: if you installed some 3rd party thing the icon is usually in the dir it installed to
[07:49] <giordano> no meskk
[07:49] <giordano> e
[07:49] <giordano> s
[07:49] <giordano> exla
[07:49] <mshiltonj> Two questions about multi-media: Rythmbox doesn't auto-play playlists when clicked from a browser. and Totem doesn't play wmv files (Totem could not play 'fd://0')
[07:50] <giordano> #300-03          9993 3i23i02   cadq
[07:50] <Steff_breezy> hello, I have bought a new graphic card, the old one has an nvidia ti 4200 chip, the new one is a nvidia 6600 card. I use the standard generic nvidia driver. Can I just put in the new card without having to change the driver?
[07:50] <giordano> gi=
[07:50] <mshiltonj> Is there a way around either of these two issues?
[07:50] <stevejesus> Maerksi, use mplayer
[07:50] <Maerksi> mplayer ?
[07:50] <XVampireX> Does anyone know if there's a program like katapult for gnome/ubuntu ?
[07:50] <stevejesus> Maerksi, mplayer plays nearly everything.  it is also a great browser plugin.  with it you can even play quicktime hd!
[07:51] <stevejesus> Maerksi, also, amarok makes a great jukebox feature wise.
[07:51] <Maerksi> yes but I was refering to bluetooth stuff. are you confusing me with other user? :D
[07:51] <Maerksi> ah you tried to reach mshiltonj ?
[07:51] <Maerksi> :)
[07:51] <stevejesus> Maerksi, haha
[07:51] <stevejesus> Maerksi, yes i was talking to mshiltonj.  haha
[07:51] <mshiltonj> Maerksi: pardon?
[07:51] <mshiltonj> oh.
[07:52] <Scorpmoon> is it recommended to use the automatic partitioning, and "erase disc" when installing?
[07:52] <Maerksi> mshiltonj steve just gave your answer to me by mistake. use mplayer :)
[07:52] <stevejesus> mshilton, i was answering your multimedia questions, but directing them at Maerski
[07:52] <Scorpmoon> it suggests one big partition  ext3 and one smaller swap
[07:52] <Steff_breezy> hello, I have bought a new graphic card, the old one has an nvidia ti 4200 chip, the new one is a nvidia 6600 card. I use the standard generic nvidia driver. Can I just put in the new card without having to change the driver?
[07:52] <mshiltonj> I may switch to mplayer if totem doesn't work. my initial hope is to stick with the defaults that easyubuntu set up for me.
[07:53] <moparfan90> is there a way on startup not to load xorg? like a key or something?
[07:53] <chavo> Steff_breezy, yes it should work
[07:53] <stevejesus> mshiltonj, i highly recomend mplayer, as the videos and content will stick in your browser where they go and it always work.  it also plays nearly everything.
[07:53] <jak> moparfan90: chmod -x the init script
[07:53] <Steff_breezy> chavo, fine, are you quite sure about it?
[07:54] <stevejesus> mshiltonj, the ubuntu defaults can be quite cumbersome at times
[07:54] <mshiltonj> stevejesus: tnx for the info.
[07:54] <chavo> Steff_breezy, yup
[07:54] <troytroy> hey when u banned from a server by ip how do u overcome that?
[07:54] <idefix_> thoreauputic, ok it wasn't there but I created it everything works now, thx
[07:54] <moparfan90> jak, i cant edit anything.... xorg is messed up.. and it freeze alot.. i need like a key that default that will bring me to a console
[07:54] <Steff_breezy> chavo, ok, thx,
[07:54] <Steff_breezy> cu
[07:55] <thoreauputic> idefix_: you're welcome
[07:55] <thoreauputic> :)
[07:55] <stevejesus> so bittornado is a text mode client?  thats what i need.  i have apt-ed it but i cant seem to find the executable...
[07:55] <SAM_theman> yo people
[07:55] <jak> moparfan90: there should be a Recovery option in GRUB for things like that
[07:55] <SAM_theman> Does Ubuntu 6.06 support my 3653 printer from hp
[07:55] <idefix_> thoreauputic, wait I get "Cannot launch entry, Details: Failed to execute child process "/home/vincent/Desktop/CGoban" (No such file or directory)
[07:56] <thoreauputic> idefix_: then you have the path wrong
[07:56] <moparfan90> o right.... but grub goes past in less then 1 sec.. i dont know if it even loads
[07:56] <Steff_breezy> which one is the best and easiest to use edonkey app?
[07:56] <Stormx2> !beagle
[07:56] <ubotu> I don't know, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Stormx2
[07:56] <stevejesus> SAM_theman, it should.  nearly any hp printer will work
[07:56] <Stormx2> Damn
[07:56] <thoreauputic> idefix_: check that it points at the executable
[07:56] <moparfan90> i know ctrl + alt+ backspace restarts xorg.. is there a key to close it?
[07:56] <systemerror_> i have a big problem!!!  if i start a program who needs glx then always comes a msg "wait event returned -16" what could it be??  please help me
[07:56] <stevejesus> alright, back to google.  i really need a function small foot-print bt client
[07:56] <stevejesus> can anyone direct me?
[07:56] <Hoxzer> is there any startup script in ubuntu?
[07:56] <idefix_> thoreauputic, ok it works now I redirected it directly to the file in the dir instead of the link on my desktop
[07:56] <thoreauputic> idefix_: and check for case sensitivity ( guessing)
[07:56] <SAM_theman> well this one didn't work on 5.10 either 6.06 and a brand new one
[07:56] <czer323> stevejesus> I dunno if you figured it out, but I just found that bittornado uses the comands bt*
[07:57] <SAM_theman> my Old man got it for me
[07:57] <thoreauputic> idefix_: right
[07:57] <NoUse> moparfan90 no, there is a command to stop it, 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[07:57] <stevejesus> czer323, i tried that.  i tried every combination of b <tab> bt <tab> bit <tab> and so forth
[07:57] <czer323> Stevejesus> so if you open a console, just bt and use tab twice, it'll just show all the variations.  You can probably figure it out from there.
[07:57] <moparfan90> nouse, wel i cant use any commands.. when i try and login xorg freezes
[07:57] <NoUse> moparfan90 start in recovery mode via the boot menu
[07:58] <czer323> steve> one thing i had to do was install bittornado from the packager.  then they were there.
[07:58] <jak> is ti possible to have direct rendering enabled with xinerama?
[07:58] <steev> where can i find older versions of the kernel patches that ubuntu applies? (e.g. linux-source-2.6.15_2.6.15-23-{0-39}.diff.gz
[07:58] <steev> well, i have 39, but 0-38 is what i am looking for
[07:58] <stevejesus> czer323, well, every package manager uses apt as a backend, and of course the same sources.list so i dont see a change in methodology helping
[07:58] <moparfan90> when grub starts it just says grub and then starts ubuntu
[07:59] <moparfan90> there no menu
[07:59] <stevejesus> are there any other bt clients wit ha small footprint?
[07:59] <NoUse> moparfan90 it says "press esc for menu"
[07:59] <moparfan90> oo
[07:59] <moparfan90> o
[07:59] <moparfan90> ill try that now thanks
[07:59] <moparfan90> brb
[08:00] <czer323> stevejesus> I guess i'm just saying, if it's installed correctly, then it has to be in the /usr/bin folder.  So it should come up.
[08:00] <systemerror_> i have a big problem!!!  if i start a program who needs glx then always comes a msg "wait event returned -16" what could it be??  please help me
[08:00] <stevejesus> ktorrent is turning out to be a real work-in-progess that it not ready for prime-time yet.  i refuse to use azureus as my machine is getting old.
[08:00] <Hoxzer> can I somehow update to 6.x from 5.1 without reinstalling?
[08:00] <NoUse> !tell Hoxzer about upgrade
[08:00] <stevejesus> i need a bt client from the terminal only.  if possible...
[08:00] <ojai> my laptop's sound stopped working after the Dapper dist-upgrade from Breezy -- anyone hear of anything similiar?
[08:01] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: the default torrent client seems quite capable
[08:01] <NoUse> stevejesus sudo apt-get install bittorrent
[08:01] <stevejesus> ojai, i w=dont do dist-upgrades.   they are always broken...
[08:01] <thoreauputic> ah, terminal only
[08:01] <jonas3> !upgrade
[08:01] <ubotu> Upgrading to Ubuntu 5.10 breezy -> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade. Upgrading to Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperUpgrades . Note: gksudo "update-manager -d" always updates to the latest development verison: (eft when its open)
[08:01] <stevejesus> NoUse, i have, but cant seem to find an executable in my path.
[08:01] <ojai> stevejesus: haven't had a prob in the past but too late now! :(
[08:01] <Sateila> Have problems installing Xubuntu... Live CD boots up just fine, but install freezes to 50% at disk check. And there it stays, until I cancel it. Any help?
[08:01] <NoUse> stevejesus they start with bt, type bt then hit TAB
[08:02] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: btdownloadcurses or something like that
[08:02] <jbirdAngel> if i have kubuntu installed and i want ubuntu do i have to just download the iso and install like normal or is there an easier way
[08:02] <cdubya> I didn't think there were really big issues doing dist-upgrade......but it didn't work for me at first.....
[08:02] <stevejesus> NoUse i have tried every comination and <tab>.  cant find it.
[08:02] <czer323> stevejesus> check the /usr/bin.  That's where it installs by default anyway.
[08:02] <NoUse> stevejesus 'dpkg -L bittorrent'
[08:03] <Michaeln> is it hard to get WLAN running with ubuntu?
[08:03] <moparfan90> nouse, thank you i think that worked
[08:03] <troytroy> is skype in the repos
[08:03] <moparfan90> ill be back online later to see
[08:03] <green_earz> stevejesus: bittornado   for command line or bittornado-gui   gui
[08:03] <stevejesus> czer323, i wonder why it wont auto complete.  i found "bttrack", that seems to be the one : )
[08:03] <Saist> yes.. skype is in the repros
[08:04] <thoreauputic> aha - lauchmany-curses
[08:04] <stevejesus> does anyone know if btornado will resume torrents that were running in other clients?
[08:04] <noway-> Hello, I am trying to use apt-get on Ubuntu Server 6.  I have to enable the root account for apt-get correct?
[08:04] <thoreauputic> *launchmany-curses
[08:04] <thoreauputic> how appropriate..
[08:04] <Michaeln> will support plug and play for my WLAN card?
[08:04] <thoreauputic> and bittorrent-console
[08:04] <stevejesus> noway-. sudo <command>
[08:04] <Michaeln> *adapter, sorry
[08:04] <jonas3> jbirdAngel: no just install gnome from apt
[08:04] <barongas> Totem plays my dvds very slowly and sound skipping where vlc can get it going (problem is that I need gamma correction for my screen and vlc wont do that), any ideas?
[08:04] <stevejesus> noway-. thats all you have to do.
[08:04] <majd> i just ordered an ubuntu cd from ShipIt, does the cd come in server as well as regular edition?
[08:05] <stevejesus> noway-. you can do sudo -i if you want to be true root
[08:05] <noway-> stevejesus: what is the default root password? I didn't have me setup in installation
[08:05] <CrippsFX> something weird is happening with my sound ... I woke my computer up from "hibernate" and now it won't play sounds, I get the beep at the command line for using autocomplete, but that's it. no other sound. mpg321 complains that "the resource is busy or in use," so does amarok on alsa output ... I'm kind of stumped.
[08:05] <jbirdAngel> jonas3: okay thanks
[08:05] <jak> noway-:  there is no default root password
[08:05] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: did you see my commands above?
[08:05] <jbirdAngel> jonas3: is that the same as using adept?
[08:05] <stevejesus> noway-. its your user pass
[08:05] <Yoric> noway-, you can't connect as root.
[08:05] <jak> noway-: do 'sudo passwd' to set a root password
[08:05] <troytroy> hi is flash in the repos
[08:06] <noway-> jak: ok, thanks!
[08:06] <apokryphos> noway-: read the FAQ first please
[08:06] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: dpkg -L bittorrent | grep bin
[08:06] <czer323> noway> They did away with su command
[08:06] <Saist> flash plugin non-free is in the repro's
[08:06] <stevejesus> thoreauputic, i have seen them now.  thank you.  nice name by the way.  very witty
[08:06] <noway-> I read they disabled the root account by default?  Maybe I am just dyslexic?
[08:06] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: :)
[08:06] <jak> true
[08:06] <apokryphos> noway-: all in the FAQ :)
[08:06] <troytroy> ok thanks
[08:06] <thoreauputic> !tell noway about sudo
[08:06] <roc> a question: is there a good c++ development environment for gnome?
[08:07] <CrippsFX> roc, xemacs
[08:07] <troytroy> i need to enable code syntax high lighting for vim
[08:07] <thoreauputic> roc: not sure if anjuta does c++
[08:07] <apokryphos> troytroy: edit /etc/vimrc and turn syntax highlighting on
[08:07] <thoreauputic> !info anjuta
[08:07] <ubotu> anjuta: (A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.4-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 872 kB, Installed size: 2124 kB
[08:07] <CrippsFX> thoreauputic, yeah it does, but last I used it it was buggy and over complicated
[08:07] <thoreauputic> it does
[08:07] <zandaa> dos anyone know what sorta software I need to use to create svg (scalable vector graphics)?
[08:07] <roc> CrippsFX: thanks for the hint
[08:07] <thoreauputic> CrippsFX: OK
[08:07] <roc> thoreauputic: going to check that too...
[08:07] <apokryphos> zandaa: inkscape
[08:08] <rongenre> emacs is worth learning for C++ work
[08:08] <Stormx2> Does anyone here use beagle?
[08:08] <CrippsFX> roc, I just don't see the point in full IDEs ... I like it simple :P
[08:08] <stevejesus> i think im all set guys!  what a memory saver this is going to be.
[08:08] <rongenre> at least I think so
[08:08] <zandaa> apokryphos: inkscape ey? thanks mate
[08:08] <apokryphos> Stormx2: just ask :P. Rarely, but sometimes.
[08:08] <thoreauputic> Stormx2: I prefer locate, grep and find ;)
[08:08] <inrelief> hey guys -- i've got kind of an odd problem -- when i open firefox, it goes to the university of arizona -- but my default home is google.com/ig
[08:08] <MisterN> Stormx2: i tested it once but then decided to uninstall mono and anything related :)
[08:08] <apokryphos> zandaa: available in the repositories, yeah.
[08:08] <CrippsFX> rongenre, I just use the emacs syntax highliting and the build in command line :D
[08:08] <noway-> apokryphos: thanks, and sorry :-D
[08:08] <Stormx2> Ah
[08:08] <zandaa> apokryphos, I know, was just wondering :)
[08:08] <apokryphos> noway-: no worries =)
[08:08] <Stormx2> Im actually just gonna give it some time.
[08:08] <SystemBomber> Can anyone help me set up my wireless that I can access my router with WPA-PSK please?
[08:09] <inrelief> anybody seen/heard of anything like this?
[08:09] <webwolf_27> would somebody be nice enough to give me a hand with my dhcp?
[08:09] <roc> CrippsFX: me neither... but sometimes it is a bit easier to use a IDE than just a text editor, don't get me wrong, I love text editors and I use the often for programming... but as I said, in some cases, it just doesn't work out
[08:09] <Saist> okay : question of my own : in reguards to ATi's Remote Wonder II. Are there any drivers or applications available that will let me use the multimedia controls on the remote?
[08:09] <Samus_Aran> going to install Ubuntu for the first time.  wish me luck.  I hope it is less annoying that the other distros I've used over the past years
[08:09] <apokryphos> Mono itself isn't bad at all, but an indexing search engine that updates regularly is by nature is intensive to run
[08:09] <Stormx2> I guess its indexing
[08:09] <juantao> Korrie - juantao here - there is no /etc/ntp.conf file - anybody else seeing this problem in 6.06 ?
[08:09] <thoreauputic> Stormx2: beagle has a habit of suddenly eating 99% CPU here
[08:09] <NoUse> inrelief can you reset the default homepage?
[08:09] <apokryphos> if you ran updatedb every minute or so it would be far more intensive, for example
[08:09] <Stormx2> haha ok
[08:09] <andre_> polska
[08:09] <Stormx2> It looks really neat to me.]
[08:09] <CrippsFX> roc, syntax highliting?
[08:09] <johnm1019> did they fix the random crashes on machines with ATI cards?
[08:09] <webwolf_27> the server is set to use subnet-mask <IP_ADDRESS> but the client is searching on <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:10] <Saist> johnm : I have not experiened any random crashes under *nix with ATi cards for several months now.
[08:10] <Manabu> The main page of ubuntu don't work well in 800x600 monitors
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> johnm1019: I think so - I've been fine for a while.
[08:10] <Linuturk> :)
[08:10] <roc> CrippsFX: as far as I know almost any text editor on linux has syntax highlighting for several languages so that is not the problem...
[08:10] <apokryphos> Stormx2: it does have many little tricks to try to make it only index when the CPU's not being used, but that's a touch business.
[08:10] <jonas3> after I upgraded to dapper my xfce desktop is weired
[08:10] <apokryphos> *tough
[08:10] <Samus_Aran> one question I had was where I should go on Ubuntu config to place an interactive startup script ?  all my hard drives (except for where I install the distro) are encrypted, and I need to run the script to enter the passwords to mount them, and can't log in until it is done
[08:10] <Linuturk> anyone know of a web based time clock system?
[08:10] <jak> johnm1019: i have 2 ati cards, no crashes in 4 weeks since started using dapper
[08:10] <stevejesus> oh this is great.  bittornado resumes partial download.  i am a happy camper
[08:10] <inrelief> NoUse - the default homepage is google.com/ig -- yet when i open firefox fore the first time it spits me off to the freekin' university of arizona!
[08:10] <CrippsFX> Saist, me neither ... none that are really random ... they're all caused by something ;)
[08:10] <jbirdAngel> do i just download gnome or what else do i download to switch from kubuntu to gnome
[08:10] <roc> CrippsFX: I'm mainly concerned on project management and such...
[08:10] <jbirdAngel> gnome applets or?
[08:10] <johnm1019> tonyyarusso, ok, so have i in the last week, but after moving to dapper I was crashing every  40-70 minutes for about the first week
[08:10] <czer323> stevejesus> awesome.  I was pretty sure that was the ticket. ;)
[08:10] <thoreauputic> stevejesus: :))
[08:11] <johnm1019> on breezy i was fine
[08:11] <Stormx2> apokryphos: Oh I see. Well I'll leave it overnight then
[08:11] <NoUse> inrelief yeah I know, I'm saying have you tried resetting it?
[08:11] <SystemBomber> Can anyone help me set up my wireless that I can access my router with WPA-PSK please?
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> johnm1019: On the final release?
[08:11] <apokryphos> Stormx2: needless to say, it's a great effort (all spreads from the idea of a "flat, non-hierarchial filesystem", but many people end up just not using it regularly.
[08:11] <CrippsFX> roc, I see. Personally I like to manage that manually, but if you have a *really* big project an IDE *may* be the way to go.
[08:11] <stevejesus> thank you everyone for your help tofay.
[08:11] <stevejesus> today*
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> johnm1019: I had issues during development, but not with the final.
[08:11] <johnm1019> whatever apt upgraded me too on june 1
[08:11] <NoUse> inrelief like change it to something like ubuntulinux.coma dn then back to google.com/ig
[08:11] <rongenre> Crippsfx:  granted, doing a lot of C++... *shudder*
[08:11] <apokryphos> Stormx2: it indexes very regullarly though; after a few minutes of you using it, it'll try to use some CPU again to index :).
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> johnm1019: Interesting.  Well, the Radeon X300 is doing fine here now.
[08:11] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: new versions of the 2.6 kernel support messages to apps upon any filesystem modifications.  this could be used to replace updatedb with a realtime list of all files on the system
[08:11] <apokryphos> Stormx2: you can help it a lot by some optimisations, like make it not index some places in /etc or whatever that you jus tdon't think you'll ever dive into etc
[08:12] <johnm1019> tonyyarusso, cool -- now to get xgl....... :-\
[08:12] <SystemBomber> are X800s running with FGLRX properly now?
[08:12] <inrelief> NoUse, no help...set it to about:blank and ubuntu.com
[08:12] <inrelief> firefox still has an affinity for arizona
[08:12] <Manabu> where I shoud talk about webpage (www.ubuntu.org) bugs?
[08:12] <Stormx2> apokryphos: Currently, its indexing my ~ and /media/Media/Music
[08:12] <ArthurBrazil> does the LAMP install come with an ftp server?
[08:12] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: interesting, I know nothing of it, but sounds promising.
[08:12] <CrippsFX> rongenre, no problem. I'm stuck doing Java.
[08:13] <juantao> anybody missing /etc/ntp.conf in 6.06 ?
[08:13] <stevejesus> for everyones info, if you didnt already know.  it appears you don't have to set up any port forwarding inside bittornado.  it appears to have some sort uf upnp discovery tool.  it moves very quickly if you have set up port-forwarding on your router.
[08:13] <apokryphos> Manabu: launchpad
[08:13] <djcabz> what is considered good for a cdrom/dvd drive when the hdparm -Tt /dev/cdrom command is issued...  specifcally for the timing buffered disk reads.
[08:13] <Saist> SystemBomber : I have an x1600 Pro and an x1800xt on *nix.
[08:13] <czer323> inrelief> Does this happen with any other browsers?  You don't happen to goto that university, do you?
[08:13] <rikai> stevejesus: all bittorrent clients resume partial downloads. ;)
[08:13] <Saist> I would presume the x8xx series would also be supported
[08:13] <roc> well I'm off...
[08:13] <stevejesus> rikai, thank you : )
[08:13] <ubuntu_> for the third day I'm trying to get Dapper installed ... to get past the black screen ... I'm now in irssi and tried "sudo dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg ... but it didn't get me anywhere ... did i type it in wrong?
 thanks
[08:13] <moparfan90> whats the command in terminal to change the directory that your in?
[08:14] <thoreauputic> Waht happened to the Beagle system-tray/ notification icon ? "best" doesn't launch it on dapper
[08:14] <SystemBomber> cd
[08:14] <CrippsFX> ubuntu_, yes, you did. dpkg-reconfigure is typed without spaces.
[08:14] <moparfan90> ok
[08:14] <SystemBomber> cd /dir
[08:14] <Stormx2> I ran a beagle status and one of the jobs was something like uid:pwn7ahf089a0h6f
[08:14] <rikai> stevejesus: ;)
[08:14] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: I just noticed it being added recently.  not sure what version, but recent.  updatedb is a bitch on my system, as I have over 3/4 TiB of encrypted data.  I wrote an UpdateDB_Slowly script to handle this fact.  it takes roughly twice as long to index the system, but it doesn't lag at all
[08:14] <NoUse> inrelief in firefox type "about:config" and then search for 'startup'
[08:14] <apokryphos> Manabu: hm, I see it's not lsited anymore there; could've been down to the move to malone, away from bugzilla. I'd just email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[08:14] <stevejesus> i was wrong.  found the preferences
[08:14] <jak> juantao: ls: /etc/ntp.conf: No such file or directory
[08:14] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: it does this by running update db in background, then stopping it for 3/4 of a second, starting for 1/3 of a second, etc.
[08:15] <pigor> hello. how can i install  an old kernel version without compile it by myself?
[08:15] <rikai> steev: prefrence?
[08:15] <rikai> err
[08:15] <CrippsFX> does anybody know how to get rid of a *seemingly* random "resource busy" for ALSA? I want to listen to music, but for some strange reason, it appears that alsa is busy ...
[08:15] <pladijs> hi folks. i'm having kernel/module problems after a bad shutdown. i have chrooted into my system using the live-cd. i though reinstalling some packages might fix the system (eg linux-image) but that didn't work. any hints on how to avoid having to reinstall
[08:15] <rikai> stevejesus: prefrence?
[08:15] <ubuntu_> also .. what is the command to get back to the terminal prompt?
[08:15] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: nice, I see. Lot of data, there, for sure 8)
[08:15] <Manabu> hum.. ok
[08:15] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: the off/on allows the hard drive to keep up with the writes without lagging any apps.  I don't even notice the updatedb when watching fullscreen movies
[08:15] <SystemBomber> are X800s running with FGLRX properly now?
[08:15] <SystemBomber> oops
[08:15] <SystemBomber> Can anyone help me set up my wireless that I can access my router with WPA-PSK please?
[08:16] <rikai> ubuntu_: ctrl+alt+fkey to switch between different terminals.
[08:16] <czer323> ubuntu> Why not just use a different console?  Use ctrl-alt-f3 to change to a different console and log in.
[08:16] <lufis> Hi. How can I update to the newest Firefox?
[08:16] <Saist> apt-get install firefox
[08:16] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell lufis -about ff1.5
[08:16] <czer323> ubuntu> that lets you go back and forth between irc and the console then.
[08:16] <pladijs> the error messages are the minix module which cannot be found and the root device which is not found
[08:16] <stevejesus> sudo apt-get upgrade firefox
[08:16] <gnomefreak> Saist: no
[08:16] <lufis> Saist: I mean the latest upgrade. The auto-updater doesn't work.
[08:16] <rikai> ubuntu_: also, its sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:16] <peter1> hi, how to set a version that will be kept and used by default? i just installed debian, bash2.05 installed by default, i downloaded bash3 and i would like to set it as default, is there a way to do that (other than modifying symlinks), thanks.
[08:16] <CrippsFX> pladijs, what are your boot error messages?
[08:16] <gnomefreak> lufis: ead your pm
[08:16] <ArthurBrazil> Is there a special support channel for the LAMP install?
[08:16] <gnomefreak> read even
[08:16] <rikai> ubuntu_: no space between dpkg and -reconfigure. :)
[08:16] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: updatedb tends to be just fine for me if it runs once or so a day (I think I have it set to 5 in the morning)
[08:16] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: I have long wanted a realtime updatedb style file monitor, as updatedb is horribly inefficient.  doing the same tasks every day.  but for me, it is too useful not to use it.  I use the regular expression searches of slocate a dozen times daily.  I hope this new kernel method catches on and gets some software
[08:16] <jak> #
[08:16] <jak> 25
[08:16] <mantono> Is there a way to keep an application running after that the terminal from which it was launched have been closed?
[08:17] <jak> oops, bouncy ball hit the keyboard :)
[08:17] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: tbh, I tend to know exactly where most things are (my /home is pretty tidy), and things like dpkg -L and grepping logs is more-or-less all else I'd need
[08:17] <pladijs> i already did grub-install, dpkg-reconfigured all linux-image-... packages
[08:17] <steev> rikai: prefernce? no, im trying to track down the introduction of the prism54_softmac in the ubuntu kernel
[08:17] <CrippsFX> woah ... in FC there is a command "service" that I can use as so to restart a service: service <servicename> restart;  ... is there an ubuntu equivalent?
[08:17] <gnomefreak> mantono: launch it from a launcher instead of term
[08:18] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: my files are extremely organised as well ... usually the ones I forget are the ones that haven't been sorted yet, which generally happens the most when the hard drives are full already, heh
[08:18] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: yes, realtime updatedb would open up a hu-uge amount of capabilities; it has the potential to revolutionise the standard of the filesystem. Some are all too eager to do with the directory hierarchy :)
[08:18] <jak> CrippsFX: /etc/init.d/servicename stop/start/restart
[08:18] <rikai> steev: sorry, wrong person. :)
[08:18] <CrippsFX> jak thanks.
[08:18] <mantono> gnomefreak: okey, thanks
[08:18] <juantao> jak - looks like ntp.conf is missing - yes? same for you. is this a bug?
[08:18] <peter1> mantono: nohup
[08:18] <pladijs> isn't there a list of packages i could reinstall using a default configuration? i have the most standard setup with all in /dev/hda1
[08:18] <SAM_theman> Umm guys
[08:18] <LORENA> olaaa
[08:18] <SAM_theman> anyone help!!!!!!!
[08:19] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: *all too eager to do away with
[08:19] <joshbuddy> hey everyone
[08:19] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: I have changed around my hard drive structures now to allow better sorting.  I have my hard drives under /mnt/A160 B300 C300 etc. meaning the first hard drive is 160GB, the second is 300GB, etc.  then I symlink them to my home dir
[08:19] <czer323> !anyone
[08:19] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? </hint>
[08:19] <LORENA> wat your name
[08:19] <stevejesus> SAM_theman, whats up?
[08:19] <SAM_theman> my hp 3653 isn't working
[08:19] <bullrage> err whys this happenign to me? Executing 'builtin_dd if=/media/downloads/complete/Eight_Below_(2006)_(NTSC)/rep-eightbelow.iso of=/dev/hdc obs=32k seek=0'
[08:19] <bullrage> umount: /media/dvdrecorder is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
[08:19] <bullrage> :-( /dev/hdc: unable to proceed with recording: unable to unmount
[08:19] <joshbuddy> just an odd question ... it would appear (to me) that X is not using any hardware acceleration ...
[08:19] <juantao> for the record, hola is spelled 'hola' not ola or olaaa
[08:19] <joshbuddy> how can i double check if it is or not?
[08:19] <GaveUp> ok i'm having a problem that as far as i can tell is related to openssl ... trying to use muttng w/ libesmtp to talk to a smtp server over tls (same problem for ssl) the problem seems to come when it tries to create the session and openssl says it can't find the ssl3-md5 digest...anyone have an idea of a way to fix the openssl package to include this digest?
[08:19] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: yeah, same here. Though I'm essentially going to try to keep as few partitions as possible in the future; always seem to have wasted space lying around with many partitions.
[08:19] <CrippsFX> SAM_theman, that's an Ipaq?
[08:19] <rikai> CrippsFX: be sure to prefix that with sudo. ;)
[08:20] <SAM_theman> No not the PDA my printer
[08:20] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: I am one of the first who will dump directory based filesystems.    I have hundreds of thousands of files spanning tens of thousands of directories ... and I constantly, CONSTANTLY need files and directories to be in 2 to 10 different locations, where they are relevant
[08:20] <CrippsFX> rikai, why bother? su -  ... ;)
[08:20] <stevejesus> SAM_theman, quickest means to an end.  sudo apt-get install hp*
[08:20] <SAM_theman> i have the 3650 Ipaq
[08:20] <lufis> Ok, see, 1.0.4 was released the other day. I'm using 1.5.3 on Dapper. I want to update to the latest version, but the FF auto-updater is gray'ed out on the Help menu. Any ideas?
[08:20] <CrippsFX> SAM_theman, willing to sell?
[08:20] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: I have a few distributions set up which take necessary partitions, but one /home dir and symlinks for config files makes the transition between each one.... smooth 8)
[08:20] <CrippsFX> ;)
[08:20] <SAM_theman> lol
[08:20] <SAM_theman> its old i got the new on
[08:20] <jak> juantao: is not there. but do  needit?
[08:20] <SAM_theman> *one
[08:20] <CrippsFX> SAM_theman, I wish I could help, but I use a canon printer.
[08:20] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: e.g. a PNG image used in a PHP web site should be in "images", "php", "web server", "company name" and a few other folders
[08:20] <jak> *do i need it?
[08:20] <stevejesus> i've got a powerbook for sell, while we are talking about it
[08:20] <rikai> CrippsFX: because sudo is the default, and whats reccomended...? ;)
[08:20] <apokryphos> yeah
[08:21] <SAM_theman> The Hp Ipaq 5550
[08:21] <juantao> jak, well can't seem to set the clock
[08:21] <pladijs> CrippsFX: any idea?
[08:21] <stevejesus> sale*
[08:21] <CrippsFX> SAM_theman, wait. you have an IPaq 3650, that's old, *and* a new one ?
[08:21] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: which explains people's fascination with tags ;-)
[08:21] <czer323> josh_buddy> more than likely it's not accelerated by default.  You'd need to install the drivers depending on your video card.
[08:21] <SAM_theman> yup
[08:21] <CrippsFX> pladijs, you still haven't told me what your boot error is.
[08:21] <cjnodell> Hello all!
[08:21] <ubuntu_> ok ... I made the changes ... how do I get this laptop to reboot ... or pick up where it left off with the install?
[08:21] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: I use digiKam for the gazillion images I have. It's pretty good.
[08:21] <CrippsFX> SAM_theman, interested in selling the old one?
[08:21] <NoUse> SAM_theman have you tried this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HpPrinterInstallationAndMaintenanceDapper
[08:21] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: perhaps you would be interested to hear the $HOME system I have used the past few years -- it is so much cleaner that I could never, ever go back to regular /home/foo
[08:21] <SAM_theman> my dad gave me his new one and i gave him my old one he loves it
[08:22] <SAM_theman> So u screwed :p
[08:22] <pladijs> CrippsFX: some lines above your question. hard for me to copy paste as i'm in a terminal, sorry
[08:22] <jak> juantao: run sudo time-admin and click synchronise time
[08:22] <bullrage> arrghh why cant i burn
[08:22] <mpeters> how to you install themes???
[08:22] <cdubya> what would be the best way of setting up a cron job to backup a directory recursively?
[08:22] <CrippsFX> SAM_theman, ahh. damn. I've been looking for a 3600 series IPaq to put *nix on :P
[08:22] <cjnodell> I am not sure if i am in the right place to be asking for my particular issue, but i was hoping someone could help me out.
[08:22] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: what do you mean?
[08:22] <SAM_theman> but dude don't get the Ipaq
[08:22] <mpeters> I want some really kickass themes
[08:22] <NoUse> !tell mpeters about themes
[08:22] <SAM_theman> Get a Palm os my mom and sis got one
[08:22] <SAM_theman> the whole gfamily has a PDA
[08:23] <D-side> if you're looking for a pda to use AS a pda, putting linux on an old ipaq is no option.
[08:23] <rikai> ubuntu_: sudo reboot
[08:23] <ubuntu_> rikai: thanks
[08:23] <D-side> I've done it many times over, and it's never as good as either PPC or PalmOS
[08:23] <CrippsFX> SAM_theman, I'm currently on a Palm Vx, but it's a loaner from work.
[08:23] <rikai> ubuntu_: or
[08:23] <bullrage> umount: /media/dvdrecorder is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
[08:23] <bullrage> :-( /dev/hdc: unable to proceed with recording: unable to unmount
[08:23] <pladijs> it's the minix module which fails to load and the root device which is not found. 'unable to mount /dev/hda1 on /root: no such device"
[08:23] <SAM_theman> O thats old
[08:23] <CrippsFX> D-side, I want it to use for FUN!!!
[08:23] <ubuntu_> rikai: will it same my changes or just start over?
[08:23] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: what I use is in the form of "/home/<user>/<settings>" where user is the username and settings is whatever they want to call their config directory.  the config directory is their actual ~ dir, but when you log into bash, it starts you at /home/<user>, which is where all the users files reside
[08:23] <rikai> ubuntu_: if you just want to try starting the gui sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[08:23] <bullrage> I am root, why can't i burn, i've just burnt one DVD? but it wont let me now?
[08:23] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: so in ~ is only the dotfiles and other such config files
[08:23] <CrippsFX> SAM_theman, sure is.  I did a server install and ma using fluxbox as my window manager. I am using rox-filer as my file manager and for desktop icons. i adder the line "rox-filer -p=PIN &" to my startup file, but i only get desktop icons on one of my workspaces, the other three are blank. What am i doing wrong?
[08:24] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: that way every file auto-created by an app is separate from the neat and tidy files created by the user
[08:24] <Scorpmoon> is gFTP better than filezilla?
[08:25] <CrippsFX> SAM_theman, yeah, but most of it is probably for <=PalmOS 4.1
[08:25] <SAM_theman> how on i setting my printer
[08:25] <SAM_theman> *hold on
[08:25] <jak> how do i get 3d working with xinerama, or do i have to switch off xinerama everytime i want to use a opengl app?
[08:25] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: I got tired of having hundreds of files show up when I did a dir listing in ~, heh.  was a big mess
[08:25] <CoC> any1 can help, got a ident problem. under xp i choosed port 114 @ aplications and configured my longshine router 2 forward port 113->114....worked
[08:25] <CoC> but under ubuntu.....i dont get it
[08:25] <CoC> :/
[08:25] <SAM_theman> yo look here http://pastebin.com/762991
[08:26] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: I currently have 358 files in ~, all created by apps.  my 24 personal directories are in ~/..
[08:26] <SAM_theman> this  is for the dude who sent me the hp help thing
[08:26] <ubuntu_> rikai: when do the starting part, it says: Failed
[08:26] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: ahh, yes indeed. Could be handy 8)
[08:27] <rikai> ubuntu_: meaning your changes didn't fix the problem. :/
[08:27] <CrippsFX> GAH!
[08:27] <NoUse> SAM_theman how is the printer attached to the computer?
[08:27] <SAM_theman> usb
[08:27] <SAM_theman> Brand new baby
[08:27] <Paradoxx> !vnc
[08:27] <cjnodell> Can anyone help me? -- I am using a ubuntu 6.06. I did a server install and ma using fluxbox as my window manager. I am using rox-filer as my file manager and for desktop icons. i adder the line "rox-filer -p=PIN &" to my startup file, but i only get desktop icons on one of my workspaces, the other three are blank. What am i doing wrong?--
[08:27] <ubotu> somebody said vnc was http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html, or http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html, or see 'x11vnc' (VNC server which uses your current X11 session)
[08:27] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: you should give it a try some time if you're a neat-freak like myself
[08:27] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: here though things very very rarely go into plain /home/user, I tend to put them straight into the respective folder (kget helps here, since I've got it set-up to automatically detect some extensions, i.e. avi, png, jpg, nzb, etc)
[08:27] <NoUse> SAM_theman unplug it and plug it back in, then run 'dmesg' and see if says anything about the printer
[08:27] <ubuntu_> rikai: you know ... Brezzy went on here just fine ... what's up with this?
[08:27] <leks> R THER EDGY REPOS
[08:27] <leks> (h)
[08:27] <leks> :-)
[08:27] <NoUse> leks no
[08:28] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: probably once a month I'll look in my actual /home/user and just delete practically every file
[08:28] <czer323> btw, i gotta hand it to you guys.  I do technical support on the phone, but you guys do it for linux... and in IRC.  It takes some skillz. ;)
[08:28] <SAM_theman> o ok
[08:28] <SAM_theman> let me do that
[08:28] <camara> Is there any problem with the boinc! server? I'm getting "Failed to fetch http://pkg-boinc.alioth.debian.org/ubuntu/dists/dapper/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found"
[08:28] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: but you would have /home/user/images or whatnot, mixed with things created by apps like /home/user/OpenOffice.org2 and so on
[08:29] <juantao> jak - little window pops up saying 'NTP support is not installed' although a 'which ntpdate' returns - / usr/sbin/ntpdate
[08:29] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: yeah, but I know of all the ones I need straight away, so changing to it is essentially never a hassle
[08:29] <thoreauputic> camara: I get 404 too
[08:29] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: an ls isn't as pretty though, for sure ;-)
[08:29] <CrippsFX> can somebody take a look at this error and tell me what they think? : http://pastebin.ca/62637
[08:29] <thoreauputic> camara: I'd say there's a problem
[08:29] <camara> They must be updating it now...
[08:29] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: I hate it when computers don't do what I want, which is why I migrated away from the Lock-in-King, Microsoft, heh
[08:29] <rikai> ubuntu_: sometimes major upgrades cause new bugs.
[08:30] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: hm, currently, even: ls ~|wc -l -> 50
[08:30] <SAM_theman> http://pastebin.com/763003
[08:30] <apokryphos> ouch
[08:30] <rikai> ubuntu_: did you dist-upgrade or do a fresh install?
[08:30] <leks> NoUse: Any Idea when they will be opened?
[08:30] <mirak> hi
[08:30] <ubuntu_> rikai: fresh install
[08:30] <NoUse> !tell leks about edgy
[08:30] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: damn straight 8)
[08:30] <marcelo_> asil
[08:30] <jak> juantao: do 'sudo apt-get install ntp ntp-simple ntp-server' and try again
[08:30] <camara> thoreauputic: have you asked one of the experts already?
[08:30] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: I have migrated my program settings through more than a half dozen distros so far, about to try out Ubuntu.  something that is just impossible on windows
[08:30] <camara> Are we the only ones to complain?
[08:30] <jak> !tell me about edgy
[08:31] <Samus_Aran> !tell me about it
[08:31] <thoreauputic> camara: heh - no I just used your link and got a 404
[08:31] <thoreauputic> :)
[08:31] <NoUse> !ubotu
[08:31] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[08:31] <CrippsFX> SAM_theman, isn't that the truth :D
[08:31] <camara> aaaah
[08:31] <rikai> ubuntu_: may want to install breezy and dist-upgrade, works sometimes
[08:31] <SAM_theman> what
[08:31] <johannes> hello i have a problem installing wine on AMD64 with ubuntu 6.06
[08:31] <ubuntu_> rikai: ok
[08:31] <mirak> I am not sure to understand well how work hdparm.conf . when I add a drive, are the parameters added to the default ? If not, how do I know the default settings for the hard drives ?
[08:31] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: same 8). My .kde has seen 4/5 distros, and quite a few KDE versions
[08:31] <camara> thoreauputic: so you Dapper already, right?
[08:31] <CrippsFX> er ... Samus_Aran isn't that the truth .... I've been migrating users on windows comps all month ...
[08:31] <mirak> johannes: it should not work
[08:31] <thoreauputic> camara: but given that we both got 404, I surmise there's a problem
[08:31] <johannes> why not ?
[08:31] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: you using Ubuntu now? How do you like it? =)
[08:31] <stevejesus> wine is 32-bit
[08:31] <mirak> johannes: because windows libs are 32 bits
[08:31] <thoreauputic> camara: dapper all round :)
[08:32] <camara> jealous... (
[08:32] <Tobberoth> Guys, if i use grub setup hd0.0 where windows is, will i be able to choose between windows and ubuntu_
[08:32] <camara> :(
[08:32] <stevejesus> johannes, crossover office works great on my turion64 lappy though : )
[08:32] <stevejesus> anyone need a powerbook?
[08:32] <camara> thoreauputic: so you have boinc! running, I guess
[08:32] <mirak> johannes: the next realease of ubuntu should mixe 32 and 64
[08:32] <NoUse> johannes you need to set up a chroot to run wine in AMD64, ubotu will send you a link
[08:32] <CrippsFX> stevejesus, I want a powerbook ...
[08:32] <thoreauputic> camara: I also get 1.3 MB /sec from my mirror
[08:32] <NoUse> !tell johannes about chroot
[08:32] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: I used it only for a few hours at someone's house, was doing a housecall to help her figure some things out (she is a newbie to computers, her brother who is living in another city set it up for her after her Windows was overrun by viruses/worms)
[08:32] <wastrel> ubuntu
[08:32] <johannes> steok thnx
[08:32] <thoreauputic> camara: I use a local mirror in .au
[08:32] <jc87-pt> hi guys , im writing a spec for edgy , i already read the documentation about but i still have questions about some details of how to do it , can someone help me with some details ?
[08:32] <camara> thoreauputic: could you check your sources.list for me if there is the same line (or similar)?
[08:32] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: the old classic 8)
[08:32] <thoreauputic> camara: I have webspace on boinc
[08:32] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: I showed her how to install programs and set up streaming audio and showed her how to use her scanner into The GIMP.  she's a happy camper
[08:33] <stevejesus> CrippsFX, 15-inch 1.25, airport extreme, 512mb
[08:33] <apokryphos> cool
[08:33] <thoreauputic> camara: pastebin it if you like
[08:33] <Tobberoth> Windows was installed after ubuntu, i need help to install grub from liveCD!
[08:33] <camara> yes, please
[08:33] <stevejesus> CrippsFX, will ship with fresh dapper is desired.
[08:33] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: I've got at least 4/5 users converted here full-time since moving into halls; a lot of praise =_
[08:33] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: and while helping her out, I realised it is a very slick distro and has a very large repository of apps, and I am currently not having a lot of free time for compiling things, so I wanted to give it a shot
[08:33] <CrippsFX> stevejesus, what's the processor, clock speed, and price?
[08:33] <jak> juantao: its a bug. still doesnt sychronize after install ntp support.
[08:33] <stevejesus> Cripps, just sent that info... look above.  800?
[08:33] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: *nod*
[08:34] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: e.g. my current distro doesn't have GNU Cash, and it has about 20 deps ... didn't feel like compiling it
[08:34] <thoreauputic> camara: I don't use boinc - I use mirror.optusnet.com for apt
[08:34] <thoreauputic> erm, mirror.optusnet.com.au
[08:34] <Tobberoth> Anyone who can help me_
[08:34] <Samus_Aran> apokryphos: I am sure I will find lots of annoyances with Ubuntu, I always do .. but I am hoping to have fewer annoyances than my current distro =p
[08:34] <wastrel> yay
[08:34] <CrippsFX> stevejesus, you got all but clock speed and storage in there.
[08:35] <czer323> steve> is it still covered with applecare? ;)
[08:35] <CrippsFX> stevejesus, unfortunately I don't have 800 to play with :/
[08:35] <ooodze> hello, gentlemen. can anybody tell me the best way to install ubuntu linux and windows xp on the same pc. i have 3 harddisks 20gb each. which os should be installed first, and what is the next step after i'll done it
[08:35] <Samus_Aran> Tobberoth: I'm not sure how on Ubuntu, but generally you can use "grub-install /dev/hda" to put it in your MBR
[08:35] <stevejesus> 1.25 g4, and 60gb
[08:35] <camara> thoreauputic: Well I don't intend to use boinc! either. The upgrade just adds its own sources.list (says the one I have is not good), and in that specific sources.lst, there is that error. I don't actually now what boinc! is...
[08:35] <apokryphos> Samus_Aran: time-saver is a really big plus; I find Kubuntu configurable-enough for my needs, so it's fine and dandy. I dualboot only between suse and kubuntu these days
[08:35] <lee_> Hi, I've got an issue in Ubuntu where, whenever I'm away from the computer for 15 minutes or so and come back, the monitor and turned black, and I cannot access anything, no matter what I do it stays black. In order to get it functioning again I have to do a hard reset and start it back up... any thoughts?
[08:35] <CrippsFX> ahh. that's what the 1.25 was.
[08:35] <Samus_Aran> Tobberoth: you may need to use the CD to boot into the distro first, so it finds your grub config file
[08:35] <Tobberoth> okej samus, thanks.
[08:35] <stevejesus> Cripps, are you interested?
[08:35] <camara> thoreauputic: Could you send me your sources.list file?
[08:35] <thoreauputic> camara: boinc has a server in Switzerland
[08:36] <camara> thoreauputic: right...
[08:36] <CrippsFX> stevejesus, I'd like to be, but I can't justify spending that much money.
[08:36] <thoreauputic> camara: why not use seveas' sources?
[08:36] <thoreauputic> !sources
[08:36] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource.
[08:36] <Samus_Aran> Tobberoth: check the Wiki, though.  it is a great source of information
[08:36] <thoreauputic> !easysource
[08:36] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:36] <camara> thoreauputic: what do you mean?
[08:36] <thoreauputic> camara: see ubotu above
[08:36] <stevejesus> CrippsFX, actually i need to sell it so bad that if you buy it in the next couple of days, i will throw in some harmon kardon soundsticks (non-USB, the good ones) at no charge
[08:36] <ooodze> oh, maybe i'll repeat my question...
[08:36] <chavo> Tobberoth, you're in the live cd?
[08:37] <ooodze> hello, gentlemen. can anybody tell me the best way to install ubuntu linux and windows xp on the same pc. i have 3 harddisks 20gb each. which os should be installed first, and what is the next step after i'll done it
[08:37] <camara> thoreauputic: ok, i'll check it. Thanks
[08:37] <thoreauputic> !install
[08:37] <ubotu> Installing Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation Installing software on Ubuntu? See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingSoftware
[08:37] <Samus_Aran> Tobberoth: http://auk.ca/dd
[08:37] <CrippsFX> stevejesus, heh. payday isn't for 2 weeks, and even then, to give you an idea, I could only afford a max of $200
[08:37] <_maney> any gnome wizards about?  I really really hate those nasty little Xs on g-term's tabs.  is there any way to lose them?
[08:37] <jak> can i use an amd64 chroot on an i386 install?
[08:37] <thoreauputic> !dualboot
[08:37] <ubotu> for wintel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo :for the Mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[08:37] <Samus_Aran> Tobberoth: there you go, that URL is to the guide for recovering GRUB using the rescue CD =)
[08:37] <CrippsFX> stevejesus, and you could definitely get more for that.
[08:37] <stevejesus> CrippsFX, oh well.  guess it will be going on craigslist.
[08:37] <stevekl> ooodze: Unless i'm mistaken, windows XP will override the MBR when you install it, so it should be installed first
[08:38] <CrippsFX> stevejesus, sorry I can't help you out there.
[08:38] <stevejesus> CrippsFX, i could, but i want to be fair.  and the new intel macbooks are really driving the value down
[08:38] <Tobberoth> chavo yes, im in the live CD
[08:38] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: yes, install Windows XP first, then install Ubuntu.  it will add it to a boot menu
[08:38] <Tobberoth> damnit, my keyboard doesnt want to work
[08:38] <stevejesus> ooodze, how about you not install windows at all...
[08:38] <czer323> stevejesus> intel macs really shoudln't be driving down prices.  It's not that good until the software becomes more available.
[08:39] <AlwaysIcey> Hi everyone,  I've gotten ubuntu installed, and everything works fine at first.  But, at some point, my networking quits completely.  Everything's configured right (IP, subnet, default gateway) and the eth is active, but it doesn't do anything.  The one thing I've done is installed Apache.  I'm completely lost here.
[08:39] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: if you have 3 20GB drives, I recommend installing Windows XP on a 20GB NTFS partition on one drive, leave a 20GB drive as FAT32 so you can share files smoothly between the two, and use the other 20GB for Ubuntu
[08:39] <Tobberoth> chevo, i tried some stuff in the wiki, but it wont work
[08:39] <camara> thoreauputic and ubotu: THANKS, that's helping a lot!
[08:39] <stevejesus> czer323, yeah, the adone stuff really does retain the value a bit
[08:39] <thoreauputic> camara: :)
[08:39] <stevejesus> czer323, adobe*
[08:39] <ToHellWithGA> oodze: what windows software do you absotively posilutely need?
[08:39] <thoreauputic> !tell camara about ubotu
[08:39] <sheepcentral> Hi I have a really big problem installing Dapper. I'm relatively new to Linux but I have used cygwin, fedora and mandrake at least a bit before. Anyway firstly when I boot I get errors to do with errors on dm-0 (logical block I think it says) and I get  about a hundred of these, they don't seem to be fatal though because it eventually passes them. The second and largest problem is when I...
[08:39] <li1> is there a web-plugin for firefox to play those web quicktime movies?
[08:39] <sheepcentral> ...start to install it I get to loading step 5 and then everything freezes, there is nothing I can do but hit the power switch. I think that these problems could be atleast in part due to the fact that my cd drive seems to be  quite slow even though it can read 48x. Help Me!
[08:39] <chavo> Tobberoth, which partition is ubuntu on?
[08:39] <Samus_Aran> Tobberoth: did you check out that URL ?
[08:39] <SAM_theman> WTF no cvs on 6.06
[08:39] <Tobberoth> chavo, i THINK ubuntu is on /dev/sda5
[08:40] <ooodze> ToHellWithGA, skype with netcam option
[08:40] <NoUse> lil install the mozillla-mplayer package
[08:40] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, thank you very much
[08:40] <tituomin> Hello all! Does anybody have experience with x-ubuntu (or xfce4) and ssh. I have working ssh keys generated and would like to have ssh-add or ssh-askpass or keychain started automatically at x session startup, so I have to type my passphrase only once. Is this easy to do?
[08:40] <CrippsFX> sheepcentral, did you do mediatest when you were done burning, and/or a check on the image before you burned it?
[08:40] <MonsieurBon> does somebody know how i get suspend to disk to work under dapper? it used to work fine with breezy.
[08:40] <thoreauputic> sheepcentral: did you check that the CD is OK ? ( md5sum or use the built in checker on the install screen)
[08:40] <Samus_Aran> sheepcentral: are you able to switch to a text console with Ctrl+Alt+F1 or F2 when it freezes ?
[08:40] <tom22> hi all, i would like to install linux on my pda (Siemens Loox 720). does this work and which distro should i use?
[08:40] <Dreamglider> once in the floppy drive how can i delete all the files on the disk!
[08:41] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, i have installed winxp on my c: and other disks are ntfs
[08:41] <chavo> Tobberoth, mount it at /media/ubuntu, mkdir /media/ubuntu then mount /dev/sda5 /media/ubuntu
[08:41] <Samus_Aran> sheepcentral: and does Ctrl+Alt+Delete reboot the system when it is frozen ?
[08:41] <sheepcentral> I checked the md5 of the iso and it was fine
[08:41] <Tobberoth> ok
[08:41] <Dreamglider> with nautilus
[08:41] <SAM_theman> nevermind
[08:41] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, so i should format them to fat32?
[08:41] <CrippsFX> tom22, I don't know, but google has lots of answers ... you'll probably get stuck with mu-linux
[08:41] <chavo> Tobberoth, then run sudo chroot /mount/ubuntu
[08:41] <sheepcentral> it doesn't reboot when I do ctrl + alt + del and I haven't tried +F1
[08:41] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: you can read from NTFS on GNU/Linux, but you can't write to it.  so the easiest way to share files between Windows and other systems is to have one drive or partition that is FAT32, then both systems can fully use that drive
[08:42] <tom22> crippsfx: thx, i will check it out
[08:42] <klm-> If I want to shutdown my computer properly at 00:00, is this the correct command: sudo shutdown -h 00:00 ?
[08:42] <djcabz> sheepcentral, I would try turing off the apci stuff.
[08:42] <ToHellWithGA> oodze: you don't need to pre-format anything.  the installer will help you get that done properly
[08:42] <CrippsFX> tom22, no problem.
[08:42] <crazy_penguin> hi all!
[08:42] <Tobberoth> chavo it says cannot run command bin/bash
[08:42] <Samus_Aran> sheepcentral: me as well.  also disable APIC in the BIOS if you have that option.  I've had that crash things for me on other distros before
[08:42] <sheepcentral> djcabz: sheepcentral, I would try turing off the apci stuff, sorry I'm new to this, explain
[08:42] <Tobberoth> does that mean i put in the wrong partition?
[08:43] <chavo> Tobberoth, yes
[08:43] <sorush20> in kubuntu how can I increase the size of the thumbnail to  more than the maximum?
[08:43] <Tobberoth> okej, trying again
[08:43] <sheepcentral> I don't have the option in my bios
[08:43] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, is it possible to install ubuntu on primary slave or secondary master?
[08:43] <li1> NoUse: thanks
[08:43] <Dreamglider> hof can i format a floppydisk ?
[08:43] <erin> hi all :)  Somehow my lowest touchpad sensitivity clicks half the links I move over, and my lowest volume setting is too loud.  Where can I set them lower?
[08:43] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, and windoze should be on primary master?
[08:43] <Tobberoth> okey chavo, it worked
[08:43] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, am i right?
[08:43] <BuFF> could anyone e-mail me dapper's sources.list to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>?
[08:43] <SySBomber> OMFG YES, i got WPA-PSK to work with my BCM4303 finally :D
[08:43] <thoreauputic> sorush20: "more than the maximum" is a contradiction in terms :)
[08:43] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: GNU/Linux distros can be installed to any partition.  some distros can even be installed to a partition inside a file on another filesystem, such as FAT32
[08:43] <ToHellWithGA> SySBomber: translation please
[08:44] <sheepcentral> Also going back Windows screwed my partition table a bit so that might be why it is having problems
[08:44] <SySBomber> ToHellWithGA, my wireless card
[08:44] <djcabz> I haven't install dapper from cd media, but I assume that the cd has an installation method which states no apic or apci or however it is spelleded
[08:44] <Tobberoth> it says root@ubuntu:/#
[08:44] <SySBomber> with encryption
[08:44] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: the bootloader (GRUB) should be installed to the primary master's MBR (Master Boot Record), this is the normal place for it
[08:44] <chavo> Tobberoth, is your mbr on /dev/sda
[08:44] <Tobberoth> Yes
[08:44] <ToHellWithGA> and BCM4303?
[08:44] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: it can then boot windows or other operating systems
[08:44] <SySBomber> ToHellWithGA, my wireless card
[08:44] <chavo> then just run grub-install /dev/sda
[08:44] <ToHellWithGA> i havent even tried wireless in linux
[08:44] <HedgeMage> ubotu: tell BuFF about easysource
[08:44] <ArthurBrazil> Is there somewhere i can get install support for LAMP?
[08:44] <SySBomber> Broadcom
[08:44] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, it wiil be done automatically?
[08:44] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: windows tends to want to live on the primary or secondary master drives, if they are present
[08:44] <leku> !multiple monitors
[08:44] <ubotu> leku: My cat's name is Mittens! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[08:44] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: as long as you install Windows first, yes
[08:44] <Tobberoth> hmm
[08:44] <Tobberoth> says not found
[08:45] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: it will create the boot menu for you
[08:45] <SySBomber> Broadcom BCM4303 :D
[08:45] <Tobberoth> that /dev/sda
[08:45] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, nice :)
[08:45] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: you just need to make sure you don't install GNU/Linux overtop of where you just installed XP
[08:45] <Tobberoth> I\m trying dev sda1 insted
[08:45] <ToHellWithGA> SySBomber: i have a linksys card sitting in my pc from when i was far from the router
[08:45] <klm-> If I want to shutdown my computer properly at 00:00, is this the correct command: sudo shutdown -h 00:00 ?
[08:45] <ToHellWithGA> now that the router is on my desk i'm wired
[08:45] <chavo> hmm look in /boot/grub/device.mao
[08:45] <Tobberoth> stil doesn\t work
[08:45] <chavo> device.map
[08:45] <leku> is there a faq for xinerama or multiple monitors?
[08:45] <ToHellWithGA> is wireless a pain to set up?
[08:46] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: primary master = /dev/hda, primary slave = /dev/hdb, secondary master = /dev/hdc, secondary slave = /dev/hdd
[08:46] <ToHellWithGA> !wireless
[08:46] <ubotu> somebody said wireless was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards if it does not work out of the box https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper windows drivers
[08:46] <SySBomber> ToHellWithGA, yeah same here but i needed to get wifi working with Linux and i finally did it
[08:46] <BirdieGryphon> Hi, I am having trouble installing XChat with both apt-get and from source. When trying apt-get I get this error: http://pastebin.com/762973. I seem to be getting a similar error when installing other applications, this error appears every time I open the Package Manager: http://pastebin.com/763011. Trying to compile the latest Xchat from source I am given the following error: http://pastebin.com/763028
[08:46] <thoreauputic> !xinerama
[08:46] <ubotu> Check these URLs out and hopefully it works for you: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaHowTo or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaMultipleMonitors maybe  http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/xfree/Xinerama-HOWTO/
[08:46] <chavo> should be the first one in there
[08:46] <Tobberoth> chavo, what do i open device.map with?
[08:46] <ooodze> Samus_Aran, you gave to me a good message.
[08:46] <Samus_Aran> ooodze: and the first partition is a 1, if you have an extended partition it will put the first logical partition as 5.
[08:46] <chavo> you can use less