[03:47] <phil42_> someone actually said something
[03:57] <william> Hello are the wireless drivers available when you install lubuntu
[03:58] <william> for laptops
[04:07] <Unit193> william: Depends what card you have, generally though.
[04:08] <ianorlin> you can find out if you are on linux usually with lspci and then reading through the output
[13:44] <godstand2_> can the Iphone connect to lubuntu and is there a program that is like itunes for it ?
[13:50] <dk__> is it true that Lubuntu 14.04 won't offer Openbox session at the time of login?
[14:20] <holstein> godstand2_: nothing is preventing the iphone from connecting
[14:21] <holstein> the "better" question is, will the ihpone support connecting to ubuntu
[14:22] <holstein> you can try http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpxF9gzZeMY
[14:22] <holstein> you can always ask apple, who should ideally be the ones supporting this.. since they are welcome and encouraged to with the information that is freely available
[14:25] <godstand2_> Thanks got abunch going on
[14:26] <godstand2_> how do i stop the screen from going blank when not useing  computer
[14:26] <holstein> godstand2_: i use the settings menu.. but, that too can be affected by driver support for specific hardware
[14:26] <godstand2_> or do screen saver
[14:27] <godstand2_> where is setting menu
[14:28] <holstein> godstand2_: in the menu
[14:28] <shinemw> it's called preferences on my menu
[14:29] <holstein> http://unsolicitedbutoffered.blogspot.com/2012/12/lubuntu-basics-power-management-and.html
[14:29] <godstand2_> i did the power management settings still goes blank after a few minutes
[14:30] <holstein> godstand2_: my suggestion would be, try another live CD, such as xubuntu, which will offer different management software to try without changing your current setup
[14:31] <holstein> if xubuntu works as expected, then you can look and see what xubuntu is using, and consider either living with the "problem" as a trade-off for "lightness", or add what xubuntu is using to lubuntu
[14:31] <holstein> if the issue is the same in xubuntu, then, its likely a driver support issue.. which, you can then see if there are proprietary drivers for you hardware to try
[14:32] <godstand2_> is there screen savers for lubuntu
[14:33] <holstein> godstand2_: lubuntu is ubuntu
[14:33] <holstein> godstand2_: lubuntu and ubuntu have screensavers.. in the menu is where i set those
[14:34] <holstein> godstand2_: if they are not working, you can change to "heavier" or larger ones.. such as the main ones from ubuntu/xubuntu or whatever from the repos or whatever you choose
[14:35] <godstand2_> ok thanks i like lubuntu's speed though real nice!!
[14:36] <holstein> godstand2_: with everthing, there is usually a trade-off, or compromise
[14:38] <godstand2_> i have a presario laptop what would be a good linux for it
[14:38] <holstein> godstand2_: ideally, whatever the manufacturer supports
[14:39] <holstein> godstand2_: since they dont, officially, or unofficially.. the "good" one will be whatever you choose to and have the ability to support
[14:39] <holstein> godstand2_: try whatever you are interested in live on the unit and see about hardware support, etc
[14:39] <holstein> lubuntu is a great choice
[14:41] <godstand2_> but some times when i do the live it works fine but after install it sucks unbuntu,kubuntu,zorin, linuxmint,mepis or any one of them some able to install wifi drivers others got to use ethernet   what ever i use
[14:43] <godstand2_> i have all these disks i have made and kinda wondering what would still be better red hat or susie
[14:44] <godstand2_> they seem so hard to figure out to install them Redhat or susie are not live
[14:46] <godstand2_> well i guess i keep looking
[14:46] <holstein> godstand2_: the issue is likely a proprietary driver
[14:46] <holstein> im guessing broadcom
[14:46] <holstein> !broadcom
[14:47] <holstein> the way we do it in linux is really pretty odd
[14:47] <holstein> its the only time you would ever expect, as an end user, for the operating system to support the hardware
[14:47] <holstein> the fact is, linux is open.. and freely available to *everyone*.. if the manufacturer of your hardware chooses, they can provide support for linux for you
[14:48] <holstein> otherwise, what is factually, actually happening is.. you are choosing to do something the manufacturer didnt promise you support for
[14:48] <godstand2_> thats true but most do not they are microsoft or mac folks
[14:49] <holstein> they say, basically, "you run windows, which we provide you for free, and we will provide you support for windows"
[14:49] <holstein> and you are saying "no thanks, i will run linux, and provide my own support
[14:50] <holstein> but, you are likely not up for writing drivers, and even if you were, you may or may not be given access to the necessary information from the manufacturer for the hardware
[14:50] <holstein> godstand2_: the fact that the drivers are written for microsfoft or mac is really what im talking about
[14:50] <holstein> godstand2_: they can write them for *anything*.. and are welcome and encouraged and able to write them for linux
[14:51] <holstein> and many do.. but the linux kernel is not allowed to include many drivers do to licensing
[14:51] <holstein> and ubuntu is not allowed to distribute
[14:51] <godstand2_> ya i know kinda sucks
[14:51] <holstein> godstand2_: sure... but to address the actual problem, and identify it, is key
[14:52] <godstand2_> cause linux is pretty good
[14:52] <godstand2_> even with the driver problems the software is great
[14:54] <holstein> otherwise, one is frustrated for linux for not doing something that is really not the responsibiliy of linux
[14:54] <holstein> or any operation system
[14:54] <holstein> its just like expecting windows or OSX to support hardware that they are not responsible for creating or supporting
[14:54] <shiner> Hey, no hurry on a reply to this :) is the next lubuntu getting released 14.04 or14.10?
[14:54] <holstein> that being said, there is a *great* support community in linux,a nd likely many drivers available
[14:55] <holstein> shiner: lubuntu *is* ubuntu
[14:55] <holstein> !14.04 | shiner
[14:55] <godstand2_> I will keep looking thanks for the help holstein gota go now
[14:56] <holstein> shiner: 14.04 is released in april.. april is the .04.. 4th month.. .10 will be in october. the 10th month
[14:56] <shiner> ah, fantastic, always wondered how they figured out the numbers, is it getting beta tested just now?
[14:58] <holstein> shiner: the volunteers are doing necesarry testing
[14:58] <holstein> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ if you are interested in contributing
[14:58] <holstein> its challenging for the smaller teams to get the necessary tests before the release
[14:59] <shiner> that's what i was hopping for, thank you holstein, I used to beta test for symbian, and I mis it :)
[16:30] <claude_> Hello people!
[16:31] <claude_> Is anybody here? Seems silent :)
[18:00] <phillw> claude_: people lurk :) #lubuntu-offtopic is for chat
[19:12] <zen_monkey> Hi there, i've just tried 13.10 from a usb stick and am having some "not so shinny" results... i can't use the live mode and when attempted to just install got video issues at first, and a second chance (reboot) got it right
[19:12] <zen_monkey> went through the installation updating from the net while at it
[19:13] <zen_monkey> but after rebooting it doesn't boot, just stops on the lubuntu splash...
[21:02] <calime8282> hello
[21:02] <calime8282> i'm not able to install lubu
[21:02] <calime8282> maybe my pc is broken?
[21:04] <wxl> calime8282: prolly not. what's the symptoms?
[21:04] <calime8282> doesn work
[21:05] <wxl> you have to help me help you, pal. i need some specific information to know what exact steps you have taken and what the exact results have been. beyond that all i can give you is try again.
[21:05] <calime8282> after install at reboot it's blocked at the lubuntu screen
[21:06] <wxl> were yyou earlier saying you were having video issues?
[21:06] <calime8282> and if i boot by cd and i want only try lubu it's always blocked
[21:07] <wxl> when you're in "blocked mode," will htiting ctrl-alt-f1 get you to a login? (you can get ctrl-alt-f7 to get back)
[21:08] <calime8282> now i try wait
[21:10] <calime8282> i've done it, first login then all black
[21:10] <calime8282> doesn't work
[21:12] <wxl> so login to the login and use pastebin to give me the results of the lspci command
[21:12] <wxl> you must be having some sort of video issues
[21:12] <wxl> the thing is certainly not frozen
[21:19] <calime8282> the screen is all black
[21:19] <calime8282> disappears immediately written log
[21:20] <wxl> so try restarting and hold down shift which will get you to the grub menu. edit the command and right before the "quiet splash" part, add "video=ofonly" and see if that doesn't help
[21:27] <wxl> calime8282: ↑
[21:33] <calime8282> nothing
[21:33] <calime8282> :(
[21:34] <calime8282> the screen is always black
[21:34] <calime8282> grub menu doesn't appear
[21:34] <wxl> just keep hitting shift until it does
[21:34] <wxl> it will
[21:34] <wxl> after you reboot of course
[21:35] <calime8282> now i try
[21:43] <calime8282> wxl i've done reboot, the i have put on it cd live, then i've clicked rty lubu, but after the log screen, there's written spurius response and then the screen is black and blocked :(
[21:44] <wxl> calime8282: oh you're on a live set up. that screen where you select try lubuntu is the grub menu. it should have an edit option.
[21:44] <holstein> calime8282: i assure you, its not being "blocked"
[21:44] <holstein> !nomodeset | calime8282
[21:45] <calime8282> so i must choose nomodeset?
[21:45] <calime8282> ok
[21:45] <holstein> calime8282: i didnt say "must"
[21:46] <holstein> calime8282: i suggested a troubleshooting step you are welcome to try, that, when i have "black screen" boots, typically addresses the issues with hardware
[21:46] <wxl> calime8282: you should try. and if that doesn't work, try mmy suggestion
[21:46] <holstein> assuming its graphics card support related, which is seems.. you can also just install with another iso, and put vesa xorg.conf in place
[21:47] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209
[21:47] <holstein> !mini
[21:47] <holstein> ^ you can use a mini iso to install in that state
[21:55] <calime8282> thanks holstein
[21:56] <calime8282> sorry holstein i'm a beginner, i don't know how to put vesa in xorg
[21:56] <calime8282> :(
[21:56] <wxl> so just do the modeset thing, calime8282
[21:56] <holstein> calime8282: ask a question
[21:57] <holstein> calime8282: above is a statement.. ."i dont know how to.."
[21:57] <holstein> calime8282: you just ask.. "how do i put that in xorg?"
[21:57] <wxl> calime8282: all you have to do is get to that select menu, look for the command to edit the options, and add in the option
[21:57] <holstein> and i can say, refer to the link i gave, where it suggests copy pasting that in
[21:57] <wxl> calime8282: honestly while holstein is right, as a beginner, it's probably asking too much out of you
[21:58] <holstein> sure.. but the hardware vendor is not going to support it
[21:58] <holstein> im just being realistic.. and have no intentions of being combative
[21:58] <calime8282> in this old pc puppylinux works
[21:58] <wxl> holstein: not suggesting as such :)
[21:58] <wxl> calime8282: all linucies are not the same (especially when it cmoes to puppy)
[21:59] <holstein> its challenging, regardless
[21:59] <holstein> machines come from a company preset up and tested to run windows.. basically, a user has to say "thats ok, i'll put all that same effort into supporting the hardware in linux myself"
[21:59] <holstein> and sometimes, it doesnt come easy
[22:03] <holstein> i had some sis graphics i never got working.. and a via chip that was a pain
[22:03] <holstein> but, identifying what the issue is is realy the first step
[22:03] <wxl> yeah i had a problem with a sis recently
[22:04] <holstein> wxl: graphics?
[22:04] <holstein> wxl: did you resolve the issue in any way?
[22:04] <wxl> holstein: yep. word i got was that i could get it going with an xorg.conf, but just barely. considering this was part of implementing a standard desktop at work, i wasn't going to go there and just grabbed an external we had laying around.
[22:04] <holstein> yup.. thats what i did as well
[22:06] <wxl> holstein: Jordan_U on #ubuntu told me that, so you might want to talk to him about his xorg.conf if you're interested. also OerHeks suggested there's an sis driver in this ppa  https://launchpad.net/~dtl131/+archive/mediahacks
[22:06] <calime8282> guys i must go bye see you tmorrow
[22:06] <calime8282> thanks for all
[22:07] <holstein> wxl: tbh, id have to dig up the hardware.. i think i might have gave it away
[22:07] <holstein> wxl: or just started running it headless somewhere
[22:07] <wxl> holstein: that's the way to do it ;)
[22:08] <holstein> i went through this "if it doesnt support the operating system i choose to use, then its not staying around" stage
[22:08] <holstein> im still in that stage, mostly
[22:08] <wxl> yeah i'm with you on that
[22:08] <wxl> i just got a new lenovo and i've heard i may have some wifi issues
[22:08] <wxl> i'm crossing my fingers
[22:08] <holstein> wxl: im stockpiling intel netbooks :)
[22:09] <wxl> hehehe
[22:09] <wxl> i think i should make my own distro
[22:09] <holstein> do it!
[22:09] <wxl> Lubuntustudio
[22:09] <wxl> cuz that's esentially what i end up making
[22:10] <wxl> lubuntu + lots of a/v stuff
[22:10] <holstein> wxl: do you install pulse?
[22:10]  * wxl points over at offtopic
[22:35] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> anyone know how i can install pcmanfm 1.2 on 13.10?
[22:37] <holstein> !Info pcmanfm
[22:37] <wxl> hm
[22:38] <wxl> !info pcmanfm
[22:38] <wxl> needs dropcase it seems
[22:39]  * holstein looks for pps
[22:39] <holstein> ppa*
[22:39] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> yeah i also checked the ppa page and 1.2 is only avail for trusty
[22:39] <claude_> anybody can't help me resolving an issue that can't be resolved? I'm not the only one that can't figure it out :O
[22:40] <wxl> Waka_Flocka_Flam: buid it yourself
[22:40] <wxl> claude_: if it can't be resolved, probably not ;)
[22:40] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> wxl: do i have to build the other 4 libfm packages too?
[22:40] <claude_> Several people tried to help but without success
[22:40] <wxl> Waka_Flocka_Flam: most likely
[22:40] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> ok
[22:40] <holstein> claude_: just ask.. you are not asking a question
[22:40] <claude_> well... here is the issue. 4 times out of 5, I the boot process hangs right after the swap file is created
[22:40] <holstein> claude_: if the issue cant be resolved, then thats it
[22:41] <holstein> claude_: disable swap and test
[22:41] <claude_> when I boot into recovery mode, everything is fine
[22:41] <claude_> [   13.201589] Adding 8388604k swap on /dev/sda1.  Priority:-1 extents:1 across:8388604k
[22:41] <claude_> [   13.210246] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[22:41] <claude_> [   13.279065] EXT4-fs (sda2): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro
[22:41] <holstein> claude_: there is not "swap file being created".. its not a page file like in windows.. its a swap partition
[22:41] <holstein> !paste | claude_
[22:41] <claude_> oh yeah sorry, swap partition
[22:42] <claude_> its mounted as sda1 too... I know its not what most people do, maybe this can cause the issue
[22:42] <holstein> claude_: sure.. the partition is not being created either.. it could be mounting.. so try not mounting it.. could be a bad hard drive causing the issue
[22:42]  * wxl nods
[22:42] <wxl> holstein: just uncomment it in /etc/fstab and reboot and see what happens
[22:43] <holstein> wont hurt
[22:43] <wxl> then you could probably do a swapfile on sda2 and no one would know the difference
[22:43] <claude_> oh unmouting what exactly? sda1 ?
[22:43] <claude_> sda2 is the root partition. sda1 is the swap one
[22:43] <holstein> claude_: do whatever tests you want to confirm your hypothesis
[22:43] <claude_> not unmounting but I meant uncommenting
[22:43] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> do i download the orig tarball from launchpad?
[22:44] <wxl> claude_: the sda1/swap line
[22:44] <claude_> ok
[22:44] <wxl> Waka_Flocka_Flam: i'd probably go straight to the lxde sources on erm where are they at again?
[22:44] <holstein> Waka_Flocka_Flam: you can try.. what would i do? run 14.04, or get the .deb's from 14.04 or try building, or try living without the latest version
[22:44] <wxl> Waka_Flocka_Flam: i agree with holstein's idea of using 14.04
[22:44] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> yeah then i would have to wait
[22:45] <holstein> Waka_Flocka_Flam: wait for what?
[22:45] <claude_> thanks I will try that out
[22:45] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> for 14.04
[22:45] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> i only download final
[22:45] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> no beta/alphas
[22:45] <holstein> Waka_Flocka_Flam: then, see other options above
[22:45] <claude_> but I dont have much ram so I think that I will have to do something regarding that swap partition anyway, otherwise I may have some memory problems
[22:45] <holstein> Waka_Flocka_Flam: though, what you are trying to do can cause arguably more breakage
[22:46] <wxl> Waka_Flocka_Flam: then go to sourceforge for the current code for pcmanfm and related dependencies
[22:46] <holstein> Waka_Flocka_Flam: given the choice between running 13.10 with a bunch of out of repo apps, or 14.04 at this stage, i would do 14.04
[22:46] <wxl> claude_: probably won't be an issue. i doubt you're going to have a kernel panic. jus tmight be slow when you get in. would be a good test. how much do you have?
[22:46] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> yeah reason is because of my limited connection
[22:47] <holstein> Waka_Flocka_Flam: you'll download it at some point
[22:47] <wxl> Waka_Flocka_Flam: so go down to the coffee shop XD
[22:47] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> not on this connection
[22:47] <claude_> I have 2 GB... actually 256 MB is used by the onboard Geforce card
[22:47] <wxl> Waka_Flocka_Flam: torrent it then. it'll cmoe eventually and you can stop and go as you like.
[22:47] <wxl> claude_: pffht, you're fine. browsing in chromium might suck, but beyond that you're fine.
[22:48] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> wxl: i have a fam member that tethers his 4g connection
[22:48] <wxl> claude_: i'm running on a gig
[22:48] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> thats what i do my big downloads on
[22:48] <claude_> haha yeah... I use Google chrome... with lots of tab open, this can consumme some unbelievable amount of ram sometimes
[22:48] <wxl> Waka_Flocka_Flam: but you can start it on one connection and finish it on another
[22:48] <claude_> I will try your trick anyway and see what's going to happen and I could report back here
[22:48] <wxl> claude_: 512 is minimum and that's really rough. life is painful with that. but you don't have that problem.
[22:48] <claude_> Are you really active in this channel?
[22:48] <wxl> Waka_Flocka_Flam: that's the joy of torrents
[22:48] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> there isnt much need for that
[22:49] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> and downthemall does the same thing
[22:49] <wxl> claude_: i'm always here and if i'm busy and can't respond there's plenty of other wonderful folks
[22:49] <claude_> awesome! Thanks a lot!
[22:49] <wxl> Waka_Flocka_Flam: so there you go. start downloading. :) i mean, building is no simple task, that's for sure.
[22:49] <claude_> oh oops just before I go
[22:50] <claude_> I forgot to say... this is happening with Lubuntu 12.04... but not with 13.04 or 13.10 (I installed 12.04 to see if I would have the same kind of bugs that the most recent versions)
[22:50] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> ive built a app before, once, midori
[22:50] <wxl> claude_: with swap on sda1?
[22:50] <claude_> other than that, lubuntu 12.04 is rock solid :)
[22:51] <claude_> sda1 as swap was used only with v13.10
[22:51]  * wxl is confused
[22:51] <wxl> and that's the one you're having the problem with?
[22:52] <claude_> I could try... after uncommenting the line I have to uncomment, to use for example sda3 as the swap parition instead of sda1
[22:52] <wxl> or use a swap file
[22:52] <wxl> i like swapfiles
[22:52] <wxl> there's no need to put swap on a separate partition imho
[22:52] <wxl> makes more sense to put /tmp and /var in separate partitions, honestly
[22:52] <claude_> I'm now on Lubuntu 12.04
[22:53] <wxl> well i guess we'll figure it out when you come back :)
[22:53] <claude_> "there's no need to put swap on a separate partition imho"         Oh really?    Is there any tutorials showing how to create a swipe file and to use it instead of using a swap partition? Sorry I'm not ULTRA new to Linux but I'm not experienced either
[22:53] <wxl> yep
[22:54] <wxl> i think it's on the standard swap page
[22:54] <claude_> wxl: yep, I'll go with your recommendation first
[22:54] <wxl> let's see what we can find
[22:54] <wxl> !swapfile
[22:54] <wxl> nope
[22:54] <wxl> !swap
[22:54] <wxl> that page has info on swapfiles
[22:54] <claude_> ok great I will bookmark it
[22:54] <wxl> it also has lots of info that will help you make better judgement about swap and learn how to work with it, turn it off and on, etc.
[22:55] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> wxl: 14.04 it is
[22:55] <wxl> Waka_Flocka_Flam: :)
[22:55] <Waka_Flocka_Flam> packages outdated
[22:55] <wxl> claude_: btw the reason i say to put /tmp and /var in separate partitions is because /var does logs and /tmp can be a temporary storage space and either of them can grow out of control and fill up your whole partition
[22:56] <wxl> while unlikely, it's a nice protection
[22:56] <claude_> oh thanks for that additional advice
[22:56] <claude_> I will remember it
[22:56] <wxl> np
[22:56] <claude_> taking notes :D
[22:56] <claude_> alright I will do my homework now, will come back later :) See you, thanks again
[22:56] <wxl> take care
[23:43] <claude_> Hey wxl!
[23:43] <wxl> claude_: good news?
[23:43] <claude_> I might as well go in private with you if you don't mind? Or I can stay here too...
[23:43] <claude_> nop
[23:43] <wxl> naw just stay here
[23:43] <claude_> But I saw something different
[23:43] <wxl> everything here is logged and is searchable so it's often good for other folks with similar issues
[23:43] <claude_> They say to use http://paste.ubuntu.com when we want to paste text here
[23:44] <claude_> I dont understand that?
[23:44] <wxl> well some of us are on a tno of channels
[23:44] <claude_> Oh and I have made a video... I could upload it somewhere and you would see in REAL time what is happening
[23:44] <wxl> we can't possibly be expect to deal with a flood if output
[23:44] <wxl> if you have a line, that's oen thing, but several lines should go there
[23:45] <claude_> yeah I have a couple of lines
[23:45] <wxl> then it will give a link that you can send here
[23:46] <wxl> there's also a program called pastebinit that's good for using int erminal
[23:46] <wxl> !pastebinit
[23:47] <claude_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7007779/
[23:48] <claude_> thats a part of my dmesg.0 log file
[23:48] <claude_> I have dmesg too... I'm assuming that dmesg.0 is the file that is created for a previous boot. It is in /var/log
[23:49] <wxl> nothing surprising there per se
[23:49] <wxl> dmesg should be before dmesg.0
[23:49] <claude_> I think I will upload my video in youtube
[23:49] <claude_> Will be even better
[23:50] <wxl> btw since you use xchat, you can do things like /exec -o cat /var/log/syslog | pastebinit
[23:50] <wxl> it will paste the results here :)
[23:50] <Dronberg> LXDE died?
[23:50] <wxl> anyways that output is not surprising
[23:50] <wxl> udev is a normal part of the system
[23:50] <wxl> the link down just means your network isn't up
[23:51] <claude_> but sda2 that is REmounted?
[23:51] <wxl> the usb thing probably means you have some usb device connected
[23:51] <wxl> not surprising
[23:51] <claude_> yep I have a 500GB USB hard drive
[23:51] <wxl> i have that same thing on my dmesg
[23:51] <wxl> and everything works fine for me :)
[23:51] <claude_> ok I will show you the video that I've shot I think... I think this gonna help a lot letting you know where exactly the system hangs when it does
[23:51] <wxl> i suspect that's after an fsck
[23:52] <claude_> so basically... now I can chat here because this was the 5th time that I tried to boot lol
[23:52] <wxl> ko
[23:52] <claude_> I tried to boot in recovery mode and I wasnt able to wow lol
[23:52] <Dronberg> And old LXDE faster new LXDEQT?
[23:52] <claude_> ok I will upload the video in youtube now
[23:52] <wxl> brb


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[17:51] <daftykins> odd i only see 2 entries from right now though
[17:52] <daftykins> also you jumped 6hrs in one reboot o0
[17:53] <BlackFerdyPT> can anyone here tell me the result of the command "apt-cache rdepends linux-firmware" in Ubuntu? (I'm using Debian, and would have to install Ubuntu just for that. The command list which packages are dependent on the "linux-firmware" one.)
[17:53] <aldanon2_> it's times like this that i wish i would have became a doctor
[17:53] <Demiurge> so i have a subuid and subgid namespaces
[17:53] <Demiurge> and a filesystem with original ids
[17:53] <aldanon2_> now there's directors 10 years younger than me and co-workers fresh out of college :(
[17:54] <Demiurge> is there any way to bump all ids in that directory/
[17:54] <Demiurge> to my namespace
[17:54] <Demiurge> like by 100000
[17:55] <polishpoliceforc> i'm trying to fix my sound speakers which abruptly stopped working, though the sound works when i plug in a headset
[17:55] <daftykins> aldanon2_: :D i'm not out of ideas yet, just more tedious pastebin'ing required i'm afraid. "ls -al /var/www/html/wordpress/ | pastebinit"
[17:55] <polishpoliceforc> i already tried reinstalling pulseaudio mixer to no avail
[17:55] <aarobc> Anyone have experience with display port monitors flickering off momentarily with amd cards using the open source drivers?
[17:56] <aldanon2_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13648783/
[17:56] <aarobc> I would install the prorprietary drivers but those don't support kernel 4.* yet
[17:57] <Bashing-om> BlackFerdyPT: 3.13.0-70-generic : http://paste.ubuntu.com/13648794/ .
[17:57] <aldanon2_> i wonder how well join.me works in this environment
[17:57] <BlackFerdyPT> Bashing-om, ah! :) Thank you very much, Bashing-om
[17:57] <daftykins> aldanon2_: alrighty, bearing in mind i know this is just a staging server... "sudo chmod -R 777 /var/www/html/wordpress/wp-admin /var/www/html/wordpress/wp-content"
[17:59] <aldanon2_> daftykins: no go
[17:59] <aldanon2_> daftykins: but yeah for sure, whatever we've gotta do, i care not about how insecure it is
[17:59] <daftykins> heh
[18:00] <daftykins> aldanon2_: hrmm looking back at your "ls  -al /var/www/html/wordpress/ | pastebinit" there's a 'wordpress' in there O_O
[18:00] <prelude2004c> anyone know centos well enough to help " vdpauinfo: cannot connect to X server :0.0 .. i am on the home strech and can't get it going " .. centos channel is dead
[18:00] <motaka2> TJ-: Are you there?
[18:01] <helpppppp> Hello I installed Ubuntu on an external hard drive
[18:01] <helpppppp> how do I boot into it?
[18:01] <mgolisch> prelude2004c: you run that from within a x11 session?
[18:01] <polishpoliceforc> output of aplay -l shows me i have 3 hdmi devices??!?! i don't have a single hdmi port on this laptop
[18:01] <polishpoliceforc> jonlee@blue:~$ aplay -l
[18:01] <polishpoliceforc> **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[18:01] <polishpoliceforc> card 0: MID [HDA Intel MID], device 0: CX20585 Analog [CX20585 Analog]
[18:01] <polishpoliceforc>   Subdevices: 1/1
[18:01] <polishpoliceforc>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[18:01] <daftykins> motaka2: as i mentioned earlier please stop hassling volunteers with questions. have you read the hashing link and hashed your download yet to check it wasn't corrupted?
[18:01] <helpppppp> Hello?
[18:01] <helpppppp> :D
[18:01] <aldanon2_> daftykins: well as you say, it points to a wordpress anyhow
[18:02] <daftykins> aldanon2_: what does the target contain? "ls -al /usr/share/wordpress/" ?
[18:02] <helpppppp> What do I boot into
[18:03] <aldanon2_> daftykins: it's that symbolic link or whatever, no idea why they set it up that way
[18:03] <Bashing-om> helpppppp: Set in bios the usb as 1st boot priority . continue the boot process .
[18:03] <helpppppp> How do I boot into my external hard drive?
[18:03] <helpppppp> ok
[18:03] <helpppppp> one sec
[18:03] <aldanon2_> daftykins: how do I confirm what the target contains?
[18:03] <daftykins> aldanon2_: with the above ls command
[18:04] <helpppppp> ok so I have multiple boot options
[18:04] <helpppppp> which one is my external hard drive
[18:04] <helpppppp> I don't get it
[18:04] <aldanon2_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13648913/
[18:04] <helpppppp> I have UEFI hard disk UEFI cd/dvd uefi USB Hard disk UEFI usb cd/dvd
[18:04] <helpppppp> which one would be my external hard drive with ubuntu
[18:05] <Bashing-om> helpppppp: Each and every bios / UEFI is different .. just play with the settins to find the correct device to boot up .
[18:05] <daftykins> aldanon2_: are you sure that was "ls -al /usr/share/wordpress/" ?
[18:06] <aldanon2_> daftykins: copied/pasted what you put in - http://paste.ubuntu.com/13648949/
[18:07] <daftykins> aldanon2_: "ls -al /var/www/html/ | pastebinit" ?
[18:08] <aldanon2_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/13648984/
[18:08] <lugo> hi, ich habe auf der selben platte 2 mal ubuntu; sda1 und sda5; hab ein grub-update gemacht und er zeigt auch beide an, jedoch wenn ich von sda1 booten will, bootet er trotzdem von sda5
[18:08] <lugo> sda1 ist übrigens ein Klon von sda5, uuids sind aber verschieden
[18:09] <Bashing-om> !de | lugo
[18:09] <lugo> sorry
[18:09] <its0x08> .g test
[18:10] <its0x08> .g test
[18:10] <its0x08> .g test
[18:10] <lugo> so i have 2 instances of ubuntu installed on the same drive (sda1 and sda5, sda1 being a clone of sda5 with different uuid)
[18:10] <daftykins> aldanon2_: does the site still work after "sudo rm /var/www/html/wordpress" ?
[18:11] <lugo> after updating grub and making sure grub got it right i tried to boot the ubuntu instance on sda1 to no avail..
[18:11] <EriC^^> lugo: are you in grub right now?
[18:11] <aldanon2_> daftykins: nope
[18:11] <lugo> without being noticed it started booting from sda5
[18:12] <lugo> without me being noticed
[18:12] <lugo> EriC^^: heh, nope
[18:12] <aldanon2_> daftykins: i hope there's an easy undo for that right? haha
[18:12] <Bashing-om> lugo: Did you verify the UUIDs in /etc/fstab as compared with ' sudo blkid ' ?
[18:13] <daftykins> aldanon2_: backspace the "/wordpress/" on the URL in your browser so it's just hostname/
[18:13] <daftykins> what happens?
[18:13] <lugo> Bashing-om: ah right, so i have to change /etc/fstab on the  sda1 instance to point to sda1
[18:14] <aldanon2_> daftykins: if i do that it just takes me to the apache2 "it works" page
[18:14] <Bashing-om> lugo: Correct .
[18:14] <lugo> ok, thanks, i'll try that
[18:14] <daftykins> aldanon2_: "ls /etc/apache2/sites-available" shows just "000-default.conf  default-ssl.conf" ?
[18:15] <aldanon2_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13649102/
[18:15] <daftykins> aldanon2_: "pastebinit /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default.conf" ?
[18:16] <hellogoodbye> Hello
[18:16] <hellogoodbye> I have disconnnected several times but I need some help
[18:16] <EriC^^> lugo: you might need to grub-install depending on what you're trying to achieve here
[18:16] <hellogoodbye> So I installed Ubuntu on my external hard drive
[18:16] <aldanon2_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13649112/
[18:16] <hellogoodbye> However whatever boot device I select
[18:16] <hellogoodbye> it always doesn't recognize ubuntu
[18:16] <hellogoodbye> so what's up
[18:17] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: did you install in uefi mode?
[18:17] <hellogoodbye> yes
[18:17] <aldanon2_> daftykins: how do i undo that rm?
[18:17] <Bashing-om> lugo: I am not real smart .. but I can accept that 'update-grub' may not be enough to propogate the changes .. may have to explitly set grub again to sda1. There can be only 1 boot code to the hard drive. which ever system you want as that controlling authority .
[18:17] <hellogoodbye> Could the hard drive not be booting up fast enough?
[18:17] <hellogoodbye> I mean lets say I installed it and restarted the computer, could the computer load faster than the hard drive?
[18:17] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: are you in a live session right now?
[18:18] <hellogoodbye> Eric Yes
[18:18] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: i doubt
[18:18] <hellogoodbye> ok
[18:18] <hellogoodbye> what do you want me to do
[18:18] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:18] <EriC^^> paste the link it gives you
[18:18] <daftykins> aldanon2_: before that, another "ls -al /var/www/html/ | pastebinit" please
[18:18] <hellogoodbye> ok one sec
[18:19] <aldanon2_> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13649150/
[18:20] <hellogoodbye> eric
[18:20] <hellogoodbye> what's the thing after the -
[18:20] <hellogoodbye> is it an I
[18:20] <hellogoodbye> capital I?
[18:20] <EriC^^> no, L
[18:20] <hellogoodbye> so just lowercase l
[18:20] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:20] <daftykins> aldanon2_: do you view the site from a browser in the VM, or your host OS?
[18:20] <aldanon2_> i can only view it from within the vm
[18:21] <hellogoodbye> it says error /dev/sr1: unrecognized disk label
[18:21] <EriC^^> np
[18:21] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type the whole command, with | nc ...
[18:21] <aldanon2_> daftykins: i did set up the connection as bridged hoping to access from the host, but that's another rabbit hole
[18:21] <EriC^^> or paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[18:21] <hellogoodbye> sec
[18:22] <hellogoodbye> temporary failure in name resolution
[18:22] <hellogoodbye> oh I'm not connected to internet
[18:22] <hellogoodbye> lol
[18:22] <daftykins> aldanon2_: ok, can you clear the browser cache again and enter just "http://localhost" to visit?
[18:22] <hellogoodbye> one sec
[18:23] <hellogoodbye> here's the link http://termbin.com/8rg8
[18:23] <aldanon2_> daftykins: i just get the apache2 "it works" page there
[18:23] <hellogoodbye> what do you think eric
[18:23] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[18:23] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: it looks ok
[18:24] <daftykins> aldanon2_: what's the deadline for this again?
[18:24] <hellogoodbye> done what next
[18:24] <aldanon2_> tomorrow
[18:24] <lugo> so apparently it's not (only) the fstab entry
[18:24] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:25] <kr00k> hi everyone!
[18:25] <aldanon2_> given how much time i've put into it, i guess i'm just going to have to live with it the way it is
[18:25] <hellogoodbye> says EFI variables are not supported on this system, use netcat
[18:25] <lugo> would it help to chroot into sda1 and reinstall grub from there?
[18:25] <aldanon2_> if those guys magically know how to fix it in seconds...I'll report back here in what they did hehe
[18:25] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: oh, you've booted in legacy mode
[18:25] <EriC^^> did you install this on another pc hellogoodbye ?
[18:25] <EriC^^> btw is that a beatles reference?
[18:25] <hellogoodbye> EriC^^ yes
[18:25] <hellogoodbye> yes
[18:25] <hellogoodbye> so I'm on my laptop right now
[18:25] <aldanon2_> daftykins: i just need to undo that rm
[18:25] <hellogoodbye> I installed it on my newly built computer
[18:26] <hellogoodbye> on my external hdd
[18:26] <hellogoodbye> My BIOS boot settings are set to legacy+uefi
[18:26] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: ok, go into the bios and set legacy mode disabled, ( enable uefi )
[18:26] <kr00k> some interested in Develop Tech?
[18:26] <hellogoodbye> k
[18:26] <hellogoodbye> that should work then?
[18:26] <aldanon2_> daftykins: i'm fairly convinced at this point they won't be able to
[18:26] <daftykins> aldanon2_: to be honest i'd have a clean 14.04 server up and wordpress running in <30 mins.
[18:27] <aldanon2_> daftykins: yeah, i started down this hole last night with the intentions of it being faster than starting over haha
[18:27] <hellogoodbye> ok now what
[18:27] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: if you get a uefi menu you can select ubuntu, then fix it from the install, if you don't, boot the live usb in uefi mode and you can fix it from there
[18:27] <daftykins> aldanon2_: beauty of VMs is you can just create another ;) so you'd still have this one
[18:27] <hellogoodbye> so I don't get it, I selected UEFI on my bios
[18:27] <hellogoodbye> and rebooted
[18:27] <hellogoodbye> now it's brining me back to the install ubuntu screen
[18:27] <hellogoodbye> my usb is still plugged in
[18:27] <EriC^^> ok, press try ubuntu
[18:27] <hellogoodbye> ok
[18:27] <hellogoodbye> now what
[18:28] <aldanon2_> daftykins: well i just need something to show them for now, but once we undo that rm, I'll try spinning up another one
[18:28] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo apt-get install efibootmgr
[18:28] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:28] <hellogoodbye> sec
[18:28] <hellogoodbye> k
[18:28] <daftykins> aldanon2_: alrighty, one moment
[18:29] <hellogoodbye> http://termbin.com/q74i
[18:29] <hellogoodbye> there
[18:29] <hellogoodbye> that look good?
[18:30] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\ubuntu\\shimx64.efi -L "ubuntu" -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[18:30] <hellogoodbye> ok
[18:30] <hellogoodbye> done
[18:30] <daftykins> aldanon2_: sudo ln -s /usr/share/wordpress /var/www/html/wordpress
[18:30] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: try rebooting
[18:31] <hellogoodbye> k should I unplug the usb?
[18:31] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:31] <hellogoodbye> or does it not matter
[18:31] <hellogoodbye> k
[18:31] <hellogoodbye> it's in efi shell now
[18:32] <hellogoodbye> lol
[18:32] <EriC^^> ok boot the live usb
[18:32] <hellogoodbye> sec
[18:32] <EriC^^> do you have secureboot disabled?
[18:32] <aldanon2_> daftykins: thanks for trying man, I'm gonna be pissed if some how they know exactly what to do
[18:32] <aldanon2_> daftykins: but such as life i guess
[18:32] <hellogoodbye> k
[18:32] <hellogoodbye> what should I do
[18:33] <bluzeo> hey guys how do i install gnome classic??? i getting tired of gnome3...
[18:33] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\ubuntu\\grubx64.efi -L "ubuntu" -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[18:33] <aldanon2_> daftykins: just out of curiousity do you happen to know what addy i'd put in to access from the host? so far putting in the IP takes me to the apache it works page, but no access to wordpress
[18:34] <daftykins> aldanon2_: i get the idea you grabbed wordpress from packages instead of installing by hand... which i see as a root of all these problems. this setup is insanely weird compared to the ones i administrate
[18:35] <hellogoodbye> ok done
[18:35] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:35] <aldanon2_> daftykins: just followed the directions from here -> sudo ln -s /usr/share/wordpress /var/www/html/wordpress
[18:35] <hellogoodbye> http:
[18:35] <hellogoodbye> \
[18:35] <hellogoodbye> oops
[18:35] <aldanon2_> daftykins: gah from digital oceans
[18:35] <hellogoodbye> http://termbin.com/l4du
[18:35] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[18:35] <EriC^^> ls -lR /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:36] <hellogoodbye> wait
[18:36] <aldanon2_> daftykins: they have you do wget
[18:36] <daftykins> aldanon2_: yeah that should've brought it back such that the browser on the VM can visit localhost/wordpress - i can't give you an answer to accessing from the host, as i don't know your virtualbox setup
[18:36] <hellogoodbye> so I showed you the log
[18:36] <hellogoodbye> now you want me to type in
[18:36] <hellogoodbye> what?
[18:36] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: i think you have a nasty bios
[18:36] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: cause the ubuntu entry we added a minute ago is now gone
[18:37] <hellogoodbye> so
[18:37] <EriC^^> we'll have to play dirty as well to trick it into booting ubuntu
[18:37] <hellogoodbye> wow you're seriously going to help me?
[18:37] <hellogoodbye> lol I'm impressed
[18:37] <hellogoodbye> thanks man
[18:37] <hellogoodbye> what do you want me to do?
[18:38] <EriC^^> it's not rocket science, i like to dramatize and stuff
[18:38] <hellogoodbye> It's an MSI bios btw
[18:38] <aldanon2_> daftykins: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-wordpress-on-ubuntu-14-04
[18:38] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: did you type sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[18:38] <EriC^^> ?
[18:38] <hellogoodbye> yep
[18:38] <hellogoodbye> it worked
[18:38] <hellogoodbye> now
[18:38] <hellogoodbye> what
[18:38] <EriC^^> ok, type ls -lR /mnt | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:39] <hellogoodbye> Is command not found
[18:39] <EriC^^> small l
[18:40] <hellogoodbye> is command not found
[18:40] <EriC^^> small L
[18:40] <hellogoodbye> oh
[18:40] <hellogoodbye> lol
[18:40] <hellogoodbye> http://termbin.com/tloc
[18:41] <daftykins> aldanon2_: i'd rather do it from scratch than pick through a guide; anyway the main thing - is it back working now?
[18:41] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: did you type ls -lR ?
[18:41] <EriC^^> or just ls ?
[18:41] <hellogoodbye> ls -IR
[18:41] <aldanon> daftykins: yeah it is, thanks - just showing you the directions i followed so you'd know where i got wordpress that's all heh
[18:41] <EriC^^> oh it's ls -lR ( small L R )
[18:42] <hellogoodbye> http://termbin.com/rvrf
[18:42] <hellogoodbye> is the R capital or lowercase
[18:43] <gerep> Hello good people. I have a server running and I'm curious where should I place my application binaries, there are several users in that server, should I place it? I read this: http://tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/usr.html but it states: "Large software packages must not use a direct subdirectory under the /usr
[18:43] <gerep> hierarchy." or should I use /opt?
[18:43] <daftykins> aldanon: mmm a few steps are different to what i'd do... anyway how do you want to proceed? i have to be somewhere in 2hrs so i don't know how quick you can stop that VM, create a new one and install 14.04.3 server :)
[18:43] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: capital
[18:43] <hellogoodbye> so lowercase L capital R?
[18:43] <gerep> It will be around 5 binaries with ~4-7 mb each
[18:43] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: yup
[18:43] <ImJune> so cron is no longer in /var/log
[18:44] <hellogoodbye> http://termbin.com/p8wa
[18:44] <hellogoodbye> that look right?
[18:44] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: yeah
[18:44] <Pici> ImJune: by default on ubuntu there is no separate logfile cron.
[18:44] <aldanon> daftykins: i've gotta take my time and go through the steps, i'm a windows admin lol
[18:44] <hellogoodbye> k so what next
[18:44] <ImJune> errr
[18:44] <ImJune> thats not good
[18:44] <EriC^^> type sudo mkdir -p /mnt/EFI/Boot /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot
[18:45] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: ^
[18:45] <ImJune> so where do I get the cron logs from?
[18:45] <daftykins> aldanon: do you want to try a clean one with my advice though, or...?
[18:45] <hellogoodbye> ok
[18:45] <hellogoodbye> done
[18:45] <Pici> ImJune: there should be entries when jobs are run in /var/log/syslog
[18:45] <aldanon> daftykins: you think we've got time?
[18:46] <ImJune> ok if I want to write a bash script to run a funny sound clip everytime I log in where shoudl I putt that
[18:46] <aldanon> daftykins: it'd be easier for me if we could /tell to have a clean window
[18:46] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo cp /mnt/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi
[18:46] <daftykins> aldanon: depends how good the internet connection is where you are for the package updates - is it fast?
[18:46] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo cp /mnt/EFI/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
[18:46] <daftykins> aldanon: yeah PM is fine
[18:46] <aldanon> daftykins: yeah internet won't be a problem
[18:46] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo cp /mnt/EFI/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /mnt/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/grubx64.efi
[18:48] <hellogoodbye> done
[18:48] <hellogoodbye> typed all 3
[18:48] <hellogoodbye> :)
[18:48] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\Microsoft\\Boot\\bootmgfw.efi -L "Windows" -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[18:49] <hellogoodbye> oops
[18:49] <hellogoodbye> I accidentally did something
[18:49] <hellogoodbye> and now all it shows is a
[18:49] <hellogoodbye> >
[18:49] <EriC^^> ?
[18:49] <hellogoodbye> I can't exit out
[18:49] <EriC^^> press ctrl+c
[18:49] <hellogoodbye> it's just >
[18:49] <hellogoodbye> ty
[18:50] <hellogoodbye> one moment
[18:50] <hellogoodbye> done
[18:51] <EriC^^> try rebooting
[18:51] <hellogoodbye> k
[18:51] <hellogoodbye> well it says it's going to boot on 0006
[18:51] <hellogoodbye> which is windows
[18:51] <hellogoodbye> is that correct?
[18:51] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:51] <hellogoodbye> k shoudl I remove the USB?
[18:51] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:51] <hellogoodbye> k
[18:51] <hellogoodbye> one moment while I reboot
[18:52] <hellogoodbye> it's on EFI
[18:52] <hellogoodbye> again
[18:52] <EriC^^> ok boot again
[18:52] <hellogoodbye> should I press ESC to skip startup.nsh
[18:52] <hellogoodbye> k
[18:52] <EriC^^> you never answered, is secureboot enabled?
[18:52] <hellogoodbye> what should I do now
[18:52] <hellogoodbye> um
[18:52] <hellogoodbye> let me check
[18:53] <hellogoodbye> where would it be
[18:53] <hellogoodbye> in the bios
[18:53] <EriC^^> boot options
[18:53] <hellogoodbye> so
[18:53] <EriC^^> next to uefi stuff
[18:53] <hellogoodbye> it just says
[18:53] <hellogoodbye> it just gives me a boot mode select
[18:53] <hellogoodbye> and then boot options
[18:53] <hellogoodbye> nothing else
[18:54] <hellogoodbye> the boot mode select is UEFI or Legacy+UEFI currently it's on UEFI
[18:54] <EriC^^> ok
[18:54] <EriC^^> try to boot the live usb again
[18:54] <hellogoodbye> mmk
[18:54] <hellogoodbye> sec
[18:55] <EriC^^> type sudo efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:55] <EriC^^> did it remove the Windows entry we just put?
[18:56] <hellogoodbye> one sec
[18:56] <hellogoodbye> i was in the bathroom
[18:56] <hellogoodbye> lol
[18:57] <hellogoodbye> let me boot into live usb
[18:58] <hellogoodbye> sec
[18:59] <hellogoodbye> k
[18:59] <hellogoodbye> http://termbin.com/zwjq
[19:00] <EriC^^> yup it's gone
[19:01] <hellogoodbye> k
[19:01] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type sudo efibootmgr -c -w -l \\EFI\\Boot\\bootx64.efi -L "Windows" -p 1 -d /dev/sda
[19:01] <hellogoodbye> k
[19:03] <nekyian> I have a HP laserjet pro mfp m125nw and cant manage to print both sides with it in ubuntu no matter what I do. I tried even/odd pages but always prints even on both sides. Anyone managed to print both sides under ubuntu with HP?
[19:03] <hellogoodbye> k
[19:03] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: try rebooting
[19:04] <BinaryC011010110> Hey, does anyone know how to use something like Keypass on linux or rather what is the best password handler available ?
[19:04] <hellogoodbye> still going to efi
[19:04] <hellogoodbye> :|
[19:04] <hellogoodbye> I guess it won't work lol
[19:04] <EriC^^> wow that's stubborn bios
[19:05] <hellogoodbye> well what's the problem?
[19:05] <hellogoodbye> lol
[19:05] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: i can think of a workaround, but it's ghetto-ish
[19:05] <hellogoodbye> well if you have the time
[19:05] <hellogoodbye> I don't want to waste your time :|
[19:05] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: it wont accept efi entries, keeps erasing them
[19:05] <hellogoodbye> well
[19:05] <hellogoodbye> you want to try? I could just leave you in peace
[19:05] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: it's not really a waste, hear the solution first, you'd have to keep the live usb plugged in, and modify it's grub.cfg to boot your actual install
[19:06] <EriC^^> or you could convert to legacy
[19:06] <EriC^^> i'd opt for sol #2
[19:06] <hellogoodbye> well my usb has the ubuntu install on it
[19:06] <hellogoodbye> my external hdd has ubuntu installed on it
[19:06] <BinaryC011010110> I agree
[19:06] <BinaryC011010110> with EriC^^
[19:06] <hellogoodbye> ok then how do I do option 2... lol
[19:07] <EriC^^> BinaryC011010110: i agree with you agreeing with me
[19:07] <hellogoodbye> lol
[19:07] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: boot the live usb
[19:07] <hellogoodbye> done
[19:08] <BinaryC011010110> So, password manager? Best one
[19:09] <BinaryC011010110> In someone's opinion, of course.
[19:09] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: actually since it's a new install it would be easier to just reinstall in legacy mode
[19:09] <hellogoodbye> ok
[19:09] <hellogoodbye> so how do I erase what I just installed on the HDD and reinstall in legacy mode, :D
[19:10] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: go to the bios and select legacy, then boot the live usb, when it boots make sure ls -l /sys/firmware/efi doesn't exist
[19:10] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: the installer should take care of that, choose to erase the disk and install
[19:10] <BinaryC011010110> EriC^^ is correct
[19:11] <BinaryC011010110> I have done it myself
[19:11] <hellogoodbye> so I'm booting into live usb
[19:11] <hellogoodbye> now I just do erase disk and install ubuntu
[19:11] <hellogoodbye> right?
[19:11] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: type ls /sys/firmware/efi
[19:11] <hellogoodbye> sec
[19:12] <hellogoodbye> it has something
[19:12] <hellogoodbye> it says config_table esrt
[19:12] <hellogoodbye> efivars fw_platform_size
[19:12] <BinaryC011010110> Crap I have to go. Password manager? Someone?
[19:12] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: which laptop do you have btw?
[19:12] <EriC^^> BinaryC011010110: keepassx
[19:12] <EriC^^> hold on
[19:12] <hellogoodbye> I'm not installng Ubuntu on my laptop
[19:13] <EriC^^> yeah that's the right name BinaryC011010110
[19:13] <hellogoodbye> I instaleld it on a hdd and am trying to boot my newly built computer with the HDD
[19:13] <hellogoodbye> Im using my laptop just to chat
[19:13] <BinaryC011010110> thank you EriC^^, Good bye!
[19:13] <EriC^^> np, good bye
[19:13] <hellogoodbye> so how do I delete the efi
[19:14] <hellogoodbye> thingy
[19:14] <hellogoodbye> :D
[19:14] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: you can't you have to boot in legacy mode
[19:14] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: first time you booted the usb it was in legacy mode
[19:14] <hellogoodbye> Well there is no option to boot "just" in legacy mode, there's only an option to boot in "legacy+uefi"
[19:15] <hellogoodbye> or just uefi
[19:15] <EriC^^> try legacy+uefi
[19:15] <hellogoodbye> by default it's set to legacy+uefi
[19:15] <hellogoodbye> which is what I just booted with
[19:15] <EriC^^> do whatever you did the first time you booted
[19:15] <EriC^^> hmm
[19:15] <hellogoodbye> lol
[19:15] <hellogoodbye> I'll just buy a new hard drive lmao. My first two internal hard drives failed on me, so I'm trying to avoid buying another one
[19:16] <hellogoodbye> maybe I should try taking the external hard drive out and putting it in the desktop
[19:16] <hellogoodbye> would that work?
[19:16] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: i'm confused
[19:16] <hellogoodbye> about
[19:16] <EriC^^> is it not on the pc you're trying to use it with?
[19:16] <hellogoodbye> so here's the deal
[19:16] <hellogoodbye> I just built a pc
[19:17] <hellogoodbye> I installed ubuntu on my external hard drive
[19:17] <hellogoodbye> I'm trying to boot into ubuntu now
[19:17] <hellogoodbye> make sense?
[19:17] <EriC^^> yeah, i thought you installed it using the laptop, and are trying to boot into on the other pc
[19:18] <EriC^^> ( which is the one we've been trying to get it to boot on )
[19:18] <duckduckDamn> a
[19:18] <hellogoodbye> No I just simply connected my external hdd to my computer, booted from a usb, and instaleld ubuntu on the external hdd using just the newly built computer
[19:18] <hellogoodbye> no laptop involved :_
[19:19] <EriC^^> ok
[19:19] <hellogoodbye> so should I take apart the external hard drive then?
[19:19] <hellogoodbye> and just put it inside the computer
[19:20] <hellogoodbye> and format it as an internal hard drive
[19:20] <hellogoodbye> would that work better? lol
[19:20] <EriC^^> no
[19:21] <EriC^^> we need to boot the usb in legacy mode somehow
[19:21] <hellogoodbye> one sec
[19:22] <EriC^^> i have an idea
[19:22] <EriC^^> if whatever you're trying right now doesn't work we can try it
[19:25] <hellogoodbye> well
[19:25] <hellogoodbye> I just took off the cover for the external
[19:25] <hellogoodbye> I want to put it in the desktop
[19:26] <EriC^^> it wont make a difference though, unless you want to do it
[19:26] <hellogoodbye> I want to do it
[19:26] <hellogoodbye> do you know anything about that?
[19:26] <EriC^^> not really
[19:27] <hellogoodbye> k well
[19:27] <hellogoodbye> how often are you on here?
[19:27] <EriC^^> pretty often
[19:27] <level15_> I just installed Ubuntu 15.10 trying to use LVM over LUKS encrypted volume, however, after reboot, I am not prompted for password, and get this error a lot of times
[19:27] <level15_> run/lvm/lvmetad.socket: connect failed: No such file or directory
[19:28] <level15_>   WARNING: Failed to connect to lvmetad. Falling back to internal scanning.
[19:28] <hellogoodbye> k I'll come back later
[19:28] <level15_> after a while, I end up on initramfs
[19:28] <level15_> any hints on how to fix it?
[19:28] <hellogoodbye> once I put it in the pc
[19:28] <EriC^^> ok
[19:30] <hellogoodbye> thank you so much for your help
[19:40] <dohdoh> ubuntu wont let me run google chrome stable gives back errors which is jason@DragunsDen:~$ google-chrome-stable
[19:40] <dohdoh> [5864:5864:1203/142024:ERROR:process_singleton_posix.cc(408)] readlink failed: Permission denied
[19:40] <dohdoh> [5864:5864:1203/142024:ERROR:process_singleton_posix.cc(244)] readlink(/home/jason/.config/google-chrome/SingletonLock) failed: Permission denied
[19:40] <dohdoh> [5864:5864:1203/142024:ERROR:process_singleton_posix.cc(244)] readlink(/home/jason/.config/google-chrome/SingletonLock) failed: Permission denied
[19:40] <dohdoh> [5864:5864:1203/142024:ERROR:process_singleton_posix.cc(268)] Failed to create /home/jason/.config/google-chrome/SingletonLock: Permission denied
[19:40] <dohdoh> [5864:5864:1203/142024:ERROR:process_singleton_posix.cc(408)] readlink failed: Permission denied
[19:41] <sirseedsalot> Eric are you on?
[19:42] <hellogoodbye> As soon as I took out the external hard drive, plugged it into my computer, it recognized ubuntu instantly
[19:42] <hellogoodbye> LOL
[19:42] <hellogoodbye> Thank you so much for your help
[19:42] <hellogoodbye> I owe you so much
[19:45] <ted586947> ubuntu 15.10 sound output has died recently and fixes are not working - how can i reset the sound settings to their default values again?
[19:46] <nekyian> I have a HP laserjet pro mfp m125nw and cant manage to print both sides with it in ubuntu no matter what I do. I tried even/odd pages but always prints even on both sides. Anyone managed to print both sides under ubuntu with HP?
[19:51] <meon> #linux
[19:52] <matteo__> hi
[19:56] <looseyuhtway> join ##thetldr
[20:01] <TJ-> nekyian: Sounds like a bug in the driver ppd; I've not seen that behaviour myself.
[20:03] <nekyian> I dont have the option in ubuntu default pdf viewer for printing two sides
[20:03] <nekyian> I also search the net for this issue and they say it really is a bug and the two sided printing option appears inactive
[20:14] <jason67666767> need help immediately with google chrome stable get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/13650519/
[20:14] <lotuspsychje> jason67666767: use chromium instead for ubuntu
[20:15] <JustCurious> am I the only one using Ubuntu 12.04 with Gnome fallback
[20:15] <lotuspsychje> JustCurious: can we help you?
[20:16] <JustCurious> not at all, I am very well with it
[20:16] <TJ-> jason67666767: "Permission denied" suggests the directories and files it refers to are not owned by your user; did you by-chance install it/run it as UID 0 (root) via sudo, by mistake?
[20:16] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | JustCurious ok
[20:16] <TJ-> jason67666767: check with "find /home/jason/.config/google-chrome -ls"
[20:16] <JustCurious> ok got it
[20:21] <jason67666767> yeah i ran it as sudo
[20:22] <TJ-> jason67666767: so you'll need to change the owner permissions: "sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /home/jason/.config/google-chrome"
[20:32] <saint> hi
[20:33] <saint> am new here pls
[20:33] <lotuspsychje> saint: you joined an ubuntu support channel
[20:33] <Ben64> if you need help, ask a question
[20:33] <eelstrebor> !topic
[20:34] <phschwartz> Hi, I am having issues with a built in LTE modem on my laptop from Sierra Wireless with ubuntu 15.10. I enabled mobile broadband and setup a connection. mmcli can query the modem and says connected with an LTE strength. But no matter what I do, I cannot get an ip associated with wwan0 allowing connectivity, any thoughts?
[20:34] <eelstrebor> /topic results in: You're not a channel operator
[20:34] <eelstrebor> topic results in: You're not a channel operator
[20:35] <HelloGoodbyte> Hello
[20:35] <lotuspsychje> eelstrebor: you cannto change topic as regular user
[20:35] <saint> how can i make my fire wall strong
[20:35] <hellogoodbye> Eric are you on
[20:35] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: hi
[20:35] <lotuspsychje> !iptables | saint
[20:35] <eelstrebor> i just did what !topic said to do
[20:35] <hellogoodbye> :D
[20:35] <hellogoodbye> ERIC thanks so much
[20:36] <Ben64> eelstrebor: you can't type anything after "/topic" or it tries to change it
[20:36] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: no problem
[20:36] <hellogoodbye> as soon as I took the hard drive out of the external hard drive enclosure, hooked it up to my computer and booted, it recognized ubuntu as installed instantly
[20:36] <hellogoodbye> and now I'm on Ubuntu right now using Pidgin
[20:36] <hellogoodbye> :D
[20:36] <EriC^^> hellogoodbye: cool :D
[20:36] <hellogoodbye> I'm not a computer wiz so I really needed your help, and I'm so glad you were there, :P
[20:36] <TJ-> !coookie | EriC^^
[20:36] <TJ-> !cookie | EriC^^
[20:37] <hellogoodbye> yes give the man a cookie
[20:37] <TJ-> huh?
[20:37] <eelstrebor> Ben64, i didn't try to change the topic
[20:37] <TJ-> did ubottu net-split?
[20:37] <lotuspsychje> hi MonkeyDust
[20:37] <poseidon> Any suggestions for a service to backup ubuntu webservers?
[20:37] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: no, just triggered
[20:37] <EriC^^> :D
[20:37] <TJ-> oh well!
[20:37] <lotuspsychje> !backup | poseidon
[20:38] <TJ-> grrrr who stole the cookies?
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> lotuspsychje
[20:38] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: i think you had too many cookies
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> indigestion
[20:38] <TJ-> I think daftykins ate them
[20:38] <EriC^^> :D
[20:39] <samojedi> jou
[20:39] <saint> so what is the topic?
[20:40] <lotuspsychje> saint: we use this channel only for ubuntu support questions, no chat topic
[20:42]  * daftykins burps at lotuspsychje
[20:45] <saint> @lotuspsychje> thanks
[20:46] <gero> ciao
[20:46] <lotuspsychje> MonkeyDust: join discuss :p
[20:46] <lotuspsychje> !it | gero
[20:47] <JayJoe200x> hi am new here pls
[20:47] <LeviM_> I installed Ubuntu Server edition to a given machine and it can't detect the ethernet driver. So I put the tar.gz for the driver source on the machine... but Ubuntu Server doesn't ship with make, gcc, etc.
[20:47] <lotuspsychje> JayJoe200x: welcome, you have joined an ubuntu support channel
[20:47] <LeviM_> So now I am booted from a Live CD of Ubuntu Desktop.
[20:48] <LeviM_> How can I install the drivers from this livecd to the already installed OS?
[20:48] <lotuspsychje> LeviM_: wich chipset?
[20:48] <gero> jopn #ubuntu-it
[20:48] <LeviM_> amd64? Is that what you are asking?
[20:48] <JayJoe200x> pls how do i get an AI for my system
[20:49] <lotuspsychje> LeviM_: no, the chipset of your ethernet card?
[20:49] <LeviM_> lotuspsychje: the device is a USB to ethernet adapter.
[20:49] <lotuspsychje> JayJoe200x: explain a bit what you trying to do?
[20:49] <LeviM_> The machine itself has a wireless card that won't work until the Linux 4.4 kernel.
[20:50] <lotuspsychje> LeviM_: hmmm not sure thats very reccomended for server use..
[20:50] <LeviM_> I know, I know.
[20:50] <LeviM_> I'm installing server edition because it doesn't have x or gnome
[20:50] <LeviM_> I need to do this so that the 4.4rc3 kernel upgrade actually works.
[20:50] <LeviM_> Then I install gnome, x, gdm, etc.
[20:51] <Ben64> that doesn't make sense at all
[20:51] <lotuspsychje> LeviM_: lets start from the beginning, whats your purpose with your machine?
[20:51] <LeviM_> fine.
[20:51] <LeviM_> It's a laptop.
[20:51] <LeviM_> It will be used pretty much like a laptop.
[20:51] <JayJoe200x> levim pls answer me
[20:51] <JayJoe200x> pls how do i get an AI for my system
[20:51] <LeviM_> It does not have a wired nic.
[20:52] <lotuspsychje> !details | JayJoe200x explain AI?
[20:52] <LeviM_> It only has a wireless card that works with the Linux 4.4rc3 kernel.
[20:52] <LeviM_> (well, just 4.4)
[20:52] <Ben64> LeviM_: so install 16.04 desktop and use the mainline kernel
[20:52] <lotuspsychje> LeviM_: and why install server edition on a laptop?
[20:52] <LeviM_> It doesn' twork.
[20:52] <LeviM_> I've already tried.
[20:52] <JayJoe200x> nic
[20:52] <LeviM_> gnome and a bunch of other packages fail to work.
[20:52] <JayJoe200x> atificail intelligent
[20:53] <lotuspsychje> LeviM_: wich ubuntu versions did you try that would fail on that laptop?
[20:53] <LeviM_> So the idea is to install server edition which lacks all these packages.
[20:53] <LeviM_> Then upgrade the kernel.
[20:53] <Ben64> LeviM_: then join #ubuntu+1 for support with doing that, because you're not going to have a good time installing server, installing 4.4 and installing gnome and stuff separately
[20:53] <LeviM_> Then install gnome, x, gdm, etc?
[20:53] <JayJoe200x> ubuntu it means
[20:53] <JayJoe200x> ubuntu it means
[20:53] <JayJoe200x> atificail intelligent
[20:53] <Ben64> JayJoe200x: stop.
[20:53] <JayJoe200x> pls how do i get an it for my system
[20:54] <Ben64> JayJoe200x: you don't, it doesn't exist
[20:54] <LeviM_> I've already done it on Arch and I can definitely say it was not pleasant.
[20:54] <JayJoe200x> ben u mean it<
[20:54] <LeviM_> I just need help installing the drivers for the USB-to-ethernet from the livecd.
[20:54] <LeviM_> I can do everything else.
[20:54] <Ben64> your best bet is 16.04 + mainline
[20:54] <Ben64> anything else is just wasting time
[20:55] <TJ-> LeviM_: do you have another machine, chroot, or a VM, you can build the driver in
[20:55] <LeviM_> Sure - the livecd.
[20:55] <LeviM_> But rather than doing it I figured I'd install from the deb directly.
[20:56] <lotuspsychje> LeviM_: tell us wich ubuntu versions you tried, that failed on your network card?
[20:56] <TJ-> LeviM_: why not install the 4.4rc3 kernel packages so you can get the wifi up?
[20:56] <saint> how do i get an AI in my system
[20:56] <MonkeyDust> saint  stop
[20:56] <k1l> saint: what AI?
[20:57] <k1l> saint: can you name a exact program?
[20:57] <JayJoe200x> me?
[20:57] <JayJoe200x> but windows have it
[20:57] <LeviM_> lotuspsychje: The USB to ethernet or the wireless card?
[20:57] <k1l> JayJoe200x: have what?
[20:57] <k1l> JayJoe200x: saint no need to join with 2 nicks
[20:57] <saint> artificail intelligent
[20:57] <saint> Ai
[20:58] <lotuspsychje> LeviM_: you say only kernel 4.4 supports your devices, so you tried different kernels/ubuntu versions before?
[20:58] <JayJoe200x> they have it" the AI
[20:58] <ikonia> LeviM_: please show me the document that says kernel 4.4 has your module in but lower versions doesn't
[20:58] <ikonia> where is the release note that says "introduced in 4.4"
[20:58] <k1l> JayJoe200x: saint last chance: can you name an exact program? else we must assume you just came here to make trouble
[20:58] <LeviM_> Sigh...
[20:59] <LeviM_> Can't you just believe me? You have no idea how much time *I've already spent on this*
[20:59] <Ben64> LeviM_: this will work a lot better if you let people help you
[20:59] <LeviM_> I've already successfully done this in Arch .
[20:59] <LeviM_> Yes, it only works in 4.4
[20:59] <TJ-> LeviM_: if you download the three 4.4rc3 binary .deb files for the PC's architecture (-image and -headers [arch and all]) you can install them manually from a USB transfer, or the Live ISO, then you'll have Wifi. http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.4-rc3-wily/
[20:59] <saint> the name of the progrAM IS JAVIS
[20:59] <LeviM_> No, it will not work in any opther kernel.
[20:59] <ikonia> LeviM_: ok, show me the document
[20:59] <LeviM_> Yes, I already tried 4.4rc3 deb and the system failed
[20:59] <LeviM_> to boot I mean
[20:59] <ikonia> LeviM_: or the release note that says "introduced in 4.4"
[20:59] <ikonia> LeviM_: whats the module name ?
[20:59] <LeviM_> brcm 4350
[21:00] <ikonia> thats not a module name is it ?
[21:00] <LeviM_> it's the name of the wireless nic
[21:00] <ikonia> thats a card model number,
[21:00] <LeviM_> Just a second.
[21:00] <TJ-> LeviM_: how did the 4.4rc3 boot fail? solving that might be the best route if that kernel has support.
[21:01] <LeviM_> TJ-: Yes, exactly. gnome-session failed and so did HOSTS of other packages.
[21:01] <LeviM_> In arch I simply installed those packages *after* I did the kerenel upgrade.
[21:01] <Ben64> yeah, i'd fix the 4.4 boot problem instead of creating a bunch more by installing server, compiling a driver for a usb-ethernet for some reason, then installing gnome manually
[21:01] <ikonia> what is the module name
[21:01] <TJ-> LeviM_: so boot succeeded, but the GUI failed - possibly due to no accelerated GPU driver
[21:02] <LeviM_> No, boot did not fully succeed.
[21:02]  * lotuspsychje thinks he never tried other ubuntu versions on his broadcom
[21:02] <ikonia> LeviM_: whats the module name ?
[21:02] <LeviM_> I could not even get an init 3terminal.
[21:02] <Ben64> init 3 doesn't mean anything
[21:02] <ikonia> init 3 doesn't exist any more
[21:02] <ikonia> LeviM_: whats the module name ?
[21:02] <LeviM_> Here: https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/brcm80211
[21:03] <LeviM_> Look at BCM4350
[21:03] <LeviM_> Kernel 4.4
[21:03] <LeviM_> Believe me yet?
[21:03] <ikonia> LeviM_: no
[21:03] <LeviM_> Sigh...
[21:03] <ikonia> LeviM_: what is the name of the module you want to use
[21:03] <ikonia> that a list of stuff
[21:03] <LeviM_> brcmfmac
[21:03] <ikonia> what is the module YOU want
[21:03] <ikonia> ok, thank you
[21:03] <LeviM_> Look in the table: queued for 4.4
[21:03] <TJ-> LeviM_: a Recovery mode boot should get you to a 'root' shell, or using the default entry edited with "systemd.unit=multiuser.target" will get to the consoles with no GUI/X.
[21:04] <k1l> saint: it doesnt have that. neither does ubuntu.
[21:04] <ikonia> 2.6.37
[21:04] <ikonia> thats when that driver was introduced to the kernel
[21:04] <LeviM_> And I already tried 15.10 lotuspsychje: wireless DID NOT WORK
[21:04] <LeviM_> The arch guys were 10x more helpful. They at least trusted me when I said I needed what I did.
[21:04] <ikonia> you should be fine with anything post 2.6.39
[21:04] <ikonia> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Broadcom_wireless
[21:04] <LeviM_> No, ikonia.
[21:04] <ikonia> arch document says 2.6.37 too
[21:04] <saint> kil the name of the progrAM IS JAVIS
[21:04] <LeviM_> The specific device will not work until 4.4
[21:05] <saint> i installed it on a windows os and it workde
[21:05] <LeviM_> I have already tried Ubunu 15.10 which has 4.2 and it does not work.
[21:05] <TJ-> LeviM_: if you've got the LiveCD running, 1st step is to create a chroot environment to be able to switch into the installed system
[21:05] <LeviM_> TJ-: Thank you.
[21:05] <LeviM_> Once in chroot, then what?
[21:06] <TJ-> LeviM_: "sudo mkdir /target; for N in proc sys dev dev/pts etc/resolv.conf; do sudo mount --bind /$N /target/$N; done
[21:06] <axel_> yvan
[21:06] <TJ-> LeviM_: then "sudo chroot /target" and you're in the installed system and can (hopefully) also use the network and get DNS resolution
[21:07] <LeviM_> Hmm.
[21:07] <TJ-> LeviM_: then if you need to build drivers against a kernel you'll want "apt-get install build-essential"
[21:07] <LeviM_> So I mounted the rootfs to /mnt already
[21:07] <LeviM_> I need to do something differently with --bind?
[21:07] <LeviM_> What is this doing, exactly?
[21:08] <TJ-> LeviM_: it's creating a bind-mount of the existing mount points into the target
[21:08] <ikonia> if you need instructions on chrooting - building custom kernels is not the right approach
[21:08] <EriC^^> LeviM_: TJ-  you need to mount --bind /run too to use apt
[21:08] <balazs> Hi, can somebody tell me what's the equivalent of ticking "Use this connection only for resources on its network" when I use nmcli ?
[21:08] <ikonia> the right approach is to wait for an ubuntu package with your 4.4 kernel to be released
[21:08] <TJ-> EriC^^: I never have; run means the host and chroot env services get mixed up
[21:08] <lotuspsychje> wasnt 4.4 released mainline recently?
[21:09] <LeviM_> ikonia: Or just use Arch, which I have working.
[21:09] <EriC^^> TJ-: i had a user not mount --bind, and apt wouldn't work until he mount binded
[21:09] <ikonia> LeviM_: that works too, do that
[21:09] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: no, 4.4 was announced to be the kernel in 16.04, mainline is only on RC3 so far
[21:09] <LeviM_> I would just rather use Ubuntu.
[21:09] <TJ-> EriC^^: possibly due to some service that was running/left its PID file behind in the chroot
[21:09] <LeviM_> I'm not familiar with bind-mounts - will look that up later. For now will just follow the instructions.
[21:09] <ikonia> I suspect you'll only be waiting a few weeks max for the RC to be moved to stable
[21:09] <TJ-> LeviM_: it copies an existing mount to another mountpoint
[21:09] <ikonia> then you can just install that package and move on
[21:10] <LeviM_> Am I  changing "target" to the mountpoint for my ssd?
[21:10] <LeviM_> Or literally just target?
[21:11] <TJ-> LeviM_: sorry! I missed out a key step there! ... after "mkdir /target;" you need to mount the installed root file-system to /target
[21:11] <TJ-> LeviM_: e.g. "sudo mount /dev/sda4 /target" if sda4 were the root file-system of the installation
[21:12] <TJ-> LeviM_: *then* you can do the bind-mount correctly
[21:14] <LeviM_> Right. I got " /target/etc/resolv.conf" is a symbol link to nowhere.
[21:14] <LeviM_> I'm guessing it wasn't in etc.
[21:15] <LeviM_> Looking...
[21:15] <LeviM_> Hmm. It's there.
[21:16] <LeviM_> Hmm.
[21:17] <LeviM_> Pinging <IP_ADDRESS> worked.
[21:17] <TJ-> OK, that' might be due to the way the Live ISO is operating, before entering the chroot do as EriC^^ suggested: "sudo mount --bind /run /target/run"
[21:17] <LeviM_> but it can't use DNS.
[21:17] <TJ-> /etc/resolv.conf is a symlink to ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf so inside the chroot it'll also need the /run/ tmpfs mounting to work
[21:18] <LeviM_> Thanks. Trying.
[21:18] <TJ-> probably should have bind-mounted /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf to be proper, but then entire /run/ won't hurt too much since this is a Live environment
[21:20] <nexace> i rm'd my /var/log/mail.log and now I cant get postfix to post logs to the file anymore
[21:20] <TJ-> LeviM_: on Ubuntu Desktop we usually have an instance of dnsmasq privately owned/controlled by Network Manager, listening on <IP_ADDRESS>, and that's what is in the /run/resolvconf/resolv.conf file, which is symlinked to /etc/resolv.conf
[21:20] <nexace> i tried touch'ing and changing ownership to syslog:adm and making correct permissions
[21:20] <LeviM_> Yeah, I'm seeing that.
[21:20] <LeviM_> I'm just going to copy it over (instead of symlink)
[21:20] <TJ-> nexace: did you restart postfix
[21:20] <LeviM_> Don't know if that will work.
[21:20] <nexace> yes multiple times
[21:20] <TJ-> LeviM_: it should, yes
[21:21] <TJ-> LeviM_: assuming there's a correct entry in the file, and the service is listening and has upstream nameservers working
[21:21] <TJ-> nexace: which ubuntu release?
[21:22] <LeviM_> >.< forgot to apt-get update
[21:22] <nexace> Linux instance-1 3.19.0-37-generic #42~14.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Mon Nov 23 15:13:51 UTC 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[21:22] <TJ-> nexace: so 14.04 Trusty
[21:23] <nexace> yes
[21:23] <TJ-> nexace: what does "ls -ld /var/log /var/log/mail.log" report
[21:23] <nexace> drwxrwxr-x 11 root   syslog 4096 Dec  3 21:15 /var/log
[21:23] <nexace> -rw-r-----  1 syslog adm       0 Dec  3 21:15 /var/log/mail.log
[21:24] <nexace> i touch'd the file which is why it exists
[21:24] <nexace> but when it didn't exist it was posting to create it either
[21:24] <nexace> wasn't i mean
[21:25] <TJ-> nexace: that looks correct. when the file isn't there restarting rsyslogd / syslogd should solve it. I've found when touching the file it upsets it somehow
[21:25] <nexace> ok. i'll give it a shot
[21:26] <TJ-> nexace: try: removing the file. restart the syslog daemon. then restart postfix, in that order
[21:26] <LeviM_> TJ-: Thank you.
[21:26] <LeviM_> It seems to be working.
[21:27] <TJ-> LeviM_: good. Remember if you're building a module on the installed system, kernel build tooling might need telling which kernel to build for since the Live is presumably running an older kernel.
[21:27] <nexace> TJ-: wow, that worked. you are a genius
[21:27] <nexace> TJ-: thanks much
[21:27] <TJ-> nexace: I got caught out like that a few years ago; took me an hour or so to figure it out :)
[21:28] <nexace> was driving me crazy
[21:28] <TJ-> yeah, it did me too
[21:28] <LeviM_> TJ-: Correct. I have a USB to ethernet adapter that I am building the driver for
[21:28] <LeviM_> Once I have *some* internet capability I can do the rest.
[21:28] <TJ-> LeviM_: good :)
[21:29] <TJ-> LeviM_: if you're not aware of it, we make a lot of use of DKMS, it makes module build portability really easy as new kernel versions are installed
[21:30] <Shoes01> nxcom
[21:31] <LeviM_> Yeah, the 4.2 to 4.3 conversion worked.
[21:31] <LeviM_> Just not the 4.2 to 4.4rc3 or 4.3 to 4.4rc3
[21:31] <LeviM_> Which is why I am approaching it so strangely now :)
[21:31] <TJ-> sounds like some rc3 bugs to work out
[21:32] <qu4nt1n> !s star wars rebels s02e08
[21:33] <teward> qu4nt1n: wrong network for that type of stuff
[21:36] <cuddylier> Anyone know why I just see a $ symbol after logging into a Ubuntu user? I used 'useradd [username]' to add the user.
[21:37] <Assad> Hey i am new user of Ubuntu help me about this error ?Error mounting /dev/sda1 at /media/ali/New Volume: Command-line `mount -t "ntfs" -o "uhelper=udisks2,nodev,nosuid,uid=1000,gid=1000,dmask=0077,fmask=0177" "/dev/sda1" "/media/ali/New Volume"' exited with non-zero exit status 14: The disk contains an unclean file system (0, 0). Metadata kept in Windows cache, refused to mount. Failed to mount '/dev/sda1': Operation not permitted The NT
[21:38] <gzcwnk> assad maybe trya  read only mount?
[21:38] <Assad> I am totally new can u tell me the step how to do that thanks :p
[21:39] <k1l_> Assad: turn off the "fast boot" called setting inside windows. it block the windows partitions to be mounted on other OS
[21:39] <Assad> K1l from Bios setting u mean ?
[21:40] <k1l_> Assad: no
[21:40] <anom> Any idea when Ubuntu will run php7 by default?
[21:41] <k1l_> Assad: inside the windows system settings you can set that windows doesnt make a "fast boot" which is sort of a hibernation which blocks the windows partitions
[21:42] <Assad> u mean in windows 8.1 which i have installed
[21:42] <Assad> Change my setting there
[21:43] <k1l_> Assad: yes
[21:43] <Assad> Thanks i try this Brother..
[21:43] <bekks> anom: maybe with the first release after the php7-release.
[21:43] <k1l_> Assad: http://winaero.com/blog/how-to-disable-or-enable-fast-startup-in-windows-8-1/
[21:47] <ash_work> is there a way to make the terminal have unlimited colums = length of largest line and a horizontal scroll bar?
[21:48] <LeviM_> TJ-: I have networking. Thank you.
[21:49] <TJ-> LeviM_: fab :)
[21:49] <LeviM_> I know it's weird that I've compiled kernels and other stuff and not done bind-mounts, but such is life I guess :D
[21:49] <TJ-> hehehe the Joy of Linux is there's always something new you thought you should have known years ago
[21:50] <TJ-> I still get surprised finding useful tools in coreutils
[22:08] <balazs> Hi, can somebody tell me what's the equivalent of ticking "Use this connection only for resources on its network" when I use nmcli ?cd :q
[22:13] <LeviM_> TJ-: Some things have gone smoothly, hit my next hiccup. Ubuntu doesn't seem to have /etc/mkinitcpio.conf. I need to add two modules on boot, basically. What's the way to do that in Ubuntu?
[22:13] <LeviM_> In Arch I modified that file and regenerated the initrd file from it.
[22:14] <BinaryC011010110> Hello, does anyone know of a free VoIP application? I do not own a phone. Or have money
[22:15] <LeviM_> Ah, is it /etc/initramfs-tools/modules instead?
[22:15] <BinaryC011010110> Aka I need advice
[22:16] <BinaryC011010110> I know nothing about linux...sorry.
[22:18] <k1l_> BinaryC011010110: start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VoIP
[22:19] <TJ-> LeviM_: sorry, yes, initramfs-tools
[22:19] <LeviM_> Thanks.
[22:19] <BinaryC011010110> Thanks k1l
[22:19] <TJ-> LeviM_: and then "update-initramfs -u -k <version>"
[22:37] <LeviM_> Okay, I got past a few errors.  Now it gave up waiting for the root device.
[22:37] <LeviM_> How can I check what that root is?
[22:38] <LeviM_> I think I need to set it to /dev/nvme0n1p3 or something odd like this.
[22:40] <loggy__> hi everyone i am using ubuntu with GNOME, how can i set rythbox to appear in top right corner, when i click the battery, volume and wifi settings. I want that there is play, stop next and previouse button. That is by default at ubuntu. I am new in linux.
[22:51] <DexterF> hi
[22:52] <DexterF> Thinkpad with both internal intel GM4500 and a discrete RadeonHD. I added i915 to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and ran sudo update-initramfs -u but still it loads the i915 module
[22:52] <DexterF> how do I make it not?
[22:55] <Guest81606> hi, guys, I have put linux on many once window machines, but I'm having a heck of a time putting it on my laptop. I have linux on a usb and it works on my desktop, but when I put it in my laptop, it shows the things to choose from, like "try ubuntu" etc., I press the try ubuntu, and it goes to a screen with a white box at the top left corner. In other linux installations, the white box fills full real quick and wala we get to linux home
[22:55] <Guest81606> screen. So, what's with the white box in the top left corner and not loading up? This laptop has windows 8.1 on it.
[22:57] <daftykins> !nomodeset | Guest81606 could be this
[22:57] <daftykins> Guest81606: can you tell me which version you're trying on this flash drive? 14.04?
[22:57] <Guest81606> ok thanks!
[22:58] <Guest81606> ya
[22:59] <daftykins> cool :)
[23:00] <Guest81606> yes 14.04
[23:05] <UnwantedAngel> i love ubuntu
[23:05] <UnwantedAngel> much faster than windows 7
[23:05] <daftykins> maybe out of the box ;)
[23:06] <TJ-> LeviM_: did you solve the boot problem? Usually we set the root file-system UUID so it can be discovered no matter what the device node is
[23:06] <LeviM_> I haven't yet.
[23:07] <LeviM_> I know how to do this in the arch loader
[23:07] <hakaz> hey
[23:07] <hakaz> niggaz
[23:07] <LeviM_> grub is a bit different
[23:07] <UnwantedAngel> daftykins, you can run it on small configs that s good
[23:07] <LeviM_> Also, I think it may not be the issue.
[23:07] <LeviM_> I noticed that the i915 firmware failed to load.
[23:07] <daftykins> UnwantedAngel: perhaps, support only in here though please :)
[23:07] <TJ-> LeviM_: "grub-install" (installs the bootstrap/bootloader files) and "update-grub" (writes the /boot/grub/grub.cfg)
[23:08] <TJ-> LeviM_: "apt-get install linux-firmware" maybe?
[23:08] <LeviM_> Sure, but it's knowing what to put in the CFG :D
[23:08] <UnwantedAngel> okoknp
[23:08] <UnwantedAngel> =)
[23:08] <TJ-> LeviM_: you don't need to know - Debian/Ubuntu GRUB scripting does it for you, from the scripts in /etc/grub.d/
[23:08] <TJ-> LeviM_: any variables you need to set, do it in /etc/default/grub
[23:08] <LeviM_> Right, but the root= seems to be in several places
[23:08] <LeviM_> In the arch loader it's in one single definition.
[23:09] <DexterF> solved: BISO setting allowed OS to switch between integrated graphics and discrete.
[23:10] <TJ-> LeviM_: the GRUB root= is where GRUB can find its /boot/grub/ and is detected separately to the root file-system, which will usually also use the UUID of the root FS. It'll also take care of ensuring GRUB has the correct modules in its core.img for, if needed, encrypted disks, LVM, dmraid, etc etc
[23:11] <TJ-> LeviM_: if the kernel boots but drops to a busybox prompt in the initrd, that can be because the initrd image lacks some supporting modules/scripts/exectuables to mount the root FS - but those should be auto-detected and installed by the initramfs-tools scripts
[23:13] <LeviM_> Let me finish trying what I'm doing and then when that fails I'll give you a more apt error message.
[23:15] <daftykins> LeviM_: trust TJ- and us, i think you're trying to apply other distro logic and making things harder :)
[23:15] <LeviM_> Perhaps :D
[23:16] <LeviM_> The real issue is that I need the  4.4 kernel and Ubuntu doesn't provide any way to demo it (not even the 16.04 stuff)
[23:16] <TJ-> LeviM_: did you pull in the 4.4rc3 builds from the kernel team PPA archive?
[23:17] <daftykins> yes it does :)
[23:17] <LeviM_> Yes, and it's not booting.
[23:17] <LeviM_> daftykins: as of yesterday the docs said it pulled in 4.3 still
[23:17] <LeviM_> Is that wrong?
[23:17] <TJ-> LeviM_: right, I thought you said you did, but my brain seems to be fried atm
[23:17] <TJ-> LeviM_: no, there is likely bugs in mainline, its only rc3 after all
[23:17] <aldanon> daftykins: hey did you check out your new game? lol
[23:18] <daftykins> are you the one that i saw here 2.5hrs ago saying you were going to mini.iso/server install in order to get a newer kernel from mainline?
[23:18] <daftykins> aldanon: hey :) sorry i got in on my laptop and haven't done much :)
[23:19] <LeviM_> daftykins: Perhaps. The description is a little fuzzy but might match :D
[23:19] <tilpner> Every time after booting, I get several popups about a problem that I can choose to report. If I do so, the system freezes without giving details about what went wrong. How do I go about this?
[23:19] <daftykins> tilpner: read and/or purge the logs from the crash log path
[23:19] <LeviM_> daftykins: So do-release-upgrade from 15.10 to get 16.04 yeah?
[23:20] <daftykins> no i wouldn't do that
[23:20] <predmijat> hi, is it possible to use one disk cache pool LV for multiple disks (origin LVs)? i can't find anything useful...
[23:20] <TJ-> LeviM_: you don't want more instability, you want less :)
[23:21] <LeviM_> Okay, so the UUID thing got sorted.
[23:21] <TJ-> LeviM_: once the 4.4 kernel is released you can install that with 15.10
[23:21] <LeviM_> TJ-: And that is when..?
[23:21] <LeviM_> :D
[23:21] <LeviM_> Okay, so I think the real issue I am hitting is the firmware issue with i915
[23:21] <TJ-> LeviM_: I run the latest release kernels, with 14.04 for example, generally the kernel versions (assuming similar kernel config) isn't too important for userspace
[23:22] <tilpner> daftykins - Does this [ http://termbin.com/i8rq ] ring any bells?
[23:22] <TJ-> LeviM_: when ever Linus decides it is ready for release. The dev period is usually about 3 months, give or take
[23:22] <LeviM_> Yeah, preferably I would like to use my system even if it's unstable until then :D
[23:23] <LeviM_> I think I will just use Arch
[23:23] <TJ-> LeviM_: as the new RCs come out the kernel team will build and publish them, so you can grab those as they appear
[23:23] <LeviM_> I already got that working on this same model on another device.
[23:23] <LeviM_> I just prefer Ubuntu to Arch.
[23:23] <TJ-> different configs maybe. try doing a diff on them
[23:24] <LeviM_> Arch is using systemd's loader.
[23:24] <TJ-> Ubuntu tries to keep the mainline builds configs as close to standard Ubuntu as possible
[23:24] <LeviM_> Not grub.
[23:24] <LeviM_> Oh, that config.
[23:25] <daftykins> tilpner: not much meaning to me, though the end makes me wonder if it's talking about a 'disk usage denial of service' haha, /var/crash being the location of these logs you get a message about on bootup, of course
[23:25] <TJ-> LeviM_: For UEFI the kernel can directly boot without any intervening boot-loader
[23:26] <LeviM_> So, in addition to this new kernel I'll need a newer linux-firmware at some point.
[23:26] <LeviM_> Does Ubuntu update linux-firmware along with the kernel or..?
[23:26] <TJ-> LeviM_: it depends on the device.
[23:26] <daftykins> tilpner: you could indulge my idea with a quick check, if you use a mechanical HDD?
[23:26] <TJ-> LeviM_: can you "lspci -nn" and tell us the device's [Vendor:Device] ID?
[23:27] <TJ-> LeviM_: or use "modinfo -F firmware /path/to/iwl/module.ko"
[23:28] <tilpner> daftykins - I'm not really sure how to check that. Both disks (SSD and HDD) are working fine, AFAICT.
[23:28] <LeviM_> Which line do you want from lspci?
[23:28] <LeviM_> Or did you want the whole thing?
[23:28] <TJ-> LeviM_: the one for the IWL device you need the firmware for
[23:28] <TJ-> LeviM_: or the output from the 'modinfo' command for the module itself
[23:28] <TJ-> The 2nd is more directly useful since it'll give the name of the file it expects
[23:29] <daftykins> tilpner: ah ok, if your OS is on SSD then my idea is less likely; however you would install "smartmontools" and "pastebinit" then run "sudo smartctl -a /dev/sdX | pastebinit" (to share it here)
[23:31] <LeviM_> TJ-: I think you are asking for something like brcm/brcmfmac4350-pcie.bin, yeah?
[23:31] <tilpner> daftykins - The tests look fine for both the SSD [ http://termbin.com/vwjv ] and the HDD [ http://termbin.com/n5sg ].
[23:31] <TJ-> LeviM_: errr, if that's the firmware file you're missing. I thought you said it was an Intel iwlwifi firmware that was missing though
[23:32] <LeviM_> No, it's not an Intel firmware. It's Broadcom.
[23:32] <LeviM_> (sadly)
[23:32] <LeviM_> Maybe I should just avoid this and just buy an Intel one?  Could the cause for the high temperature reading be a dedicated GPU running on high load for some time?
[23:35] <Jan\> daftykins: ty
[23:35] <TJ-> LeviM_: get it from here: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/tree/brcm
[23:35] <daftykins> tilpner: definitely, if the two are close
[23:36] <daftykins> tilpner: you have a good amount of clearance between the underside and the desk you use it on?
[23:36] <TJ-> LeviM_: in the cgit web page, to download it, click the "plain" link to the right of the 'blob:' commit ID
[23:37] <LeviM_> TJ-: My understanding is that I need the 4.4 kernel to even see the device
[23:37] <LeviM_> (or something)
[23:37] <TJ-> LeviM_: then put in in /lib/firmware/brcm/
[23:37] <LeviM_> On Arch I had to install the kernel and the firmware.
[23:37] <TJ-> OK, well no harm having the firmware ready to roll
[23:38] <TJ-> if you're dual-booting with Arch you can copy the firmware file from the Arch install
[23:38] <tilpner> daftykins - I should mention that I'm using the proprietary NVidia drivers, and that I can't properly shut down, restart, suspend, etc. without the NVidia GPU activated.
[23:38] <LeviM_> The arch is on another machine but same kind.
[23:38] <Jan\> daftykins: I'm looking for the wwwroot folder but all I see is /usr/share/awstats
[23:38] <LeviM_> I got SSH working so I could copy it over I guess.
[23:38] <daftykins> tilpner: if you clear these crash logs, does it happen again?
[23:38] <TJ-> LeviM_: yes, firmware files are the same whatever the distro/arch
[23:38] <TJ-> LeviM_: 'arch' as in architecture
[23:38] <daftykins> Jan\: well the document root on ubuntu 14.04 server+ is /var/www/html/
[23:39] <LeviM_> Yeah.
[23:39] <daftykins> (with apache)
[23:39] <Jan\> daftykins: no no , the awstats www stuff
[23:39] <tilpner> daftykins - I can't reboot right now, but I'll clear them and see what happens next time. Thank you for your help.
[23:39] <LeviM_> Do I copy the .ko or just certain files?
[23:40] <TJ-> LeviM_: for the firmware? just the brcmfmac4350-pcie.bin
[23:40] <LeviM_> Gotcha.
[23:40] <TJ-> Ubuntu / udevd looks under /lib/firmware/ so whatever relative path the modinfo reports, is where the file should be
[23:41] <daftykins> Jan\: does this package not install files so that you can visit a website hosted on the server with /awstats/ to view them?
[23:41] <regedit> ok please, why the backslash in the nick
[23:41] <regedit> slashes are a very delicate topic in linux world, you know
[23:41] <regedit> :p
[23:43] <Jan\> regedit: to avoid month highlights
[23:43] <ZeeNoodley> i wanted to make a linux vs windows joke but i won't
[23:43] <regedit> month highlights?
[23:43] <aldanon> ZeeNoodley: i don't think i've ever seen one of those disputes here heh
[23:44] <Jan\> regedit:  yes, as in ... time
[23:44] <regedit> whut?
[23:44] <TJ-> Jan\: awstats is installed, its up to you to create a mapping in your web-server's config to use it
[23:44] <regedit> parse failure
[23:44] <Jan\> regedit: doesnt your client have a highlight feature ?
[23:44] <Jan\> TJ-: yes I figured
[23:45] <Jan\> I just didnt know the dirs
[23:45] <daftykins> aldanon: that's 'cause it'd be off topic ;) non-support!
[23:45] <regedit> Jan\: highlighting what? when my nick is mentioned?
[23:45] <LeviM_> TJ-: In a second I'll link an image of my screen.
[23:45] <Jan\> regedit: yes
[23:45] <aldanon> yeap heh
[23:45] <LeviM_> After a failed boot
[23:46] <aldanon> bbl
[23:46] <regedit> Jan\: why do you call that "month" highlights, and what does the backslash do about that
[23:46] <Jan\> regedit: hello, Jan is also short for January
[23:47] <k1l_> he doesnt want false highlights in january
[23:47] <Jan\> see, k1l_ gets it
[23:47] <regedit> ah
[23:48] <LeviM_> Is anyone running 16.04? Can they confirm the kernel version?
[23:48] <VictoriaXOXO> Q: Is it possible to extract all the (new) wallpapers from the 16.04/16.10 .iso?
[23:48] <Jan\> VictoriaXOXO: yes
[23:49] <VictoriaXOXO> Jan\: And do you know how? ;)
[23:49] <TJ-> Jan\:  example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/13654701/
[23:49] <TJ-> LeviM_: I'm on 4.2.0-19-lowlatency
[23:49] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: when they are announced you can get them, yes.
[23:51] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Oops. I meant from 15.04 and 15.10. XD
[23:51] <Jan\> VictoriaXOXO: use any app that can extract files from iso
[23:51] <VictoriaXOXO> Jan\: I need examples.
[23:52] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Sometimes I forgot what year it is. :|
[23:52] <Jan\> VictoriaXOXO: sorry ubuntu and linux are not my main OS
[23:52] <VictoriaXOXO> Jan\: Oh.
[23:52] <Jan\> VictoriaXOXO: I use 7-zip
[23:52] <Jan\> 7-zip can do it
[23:52] <VictoriaXOXO> Uhhhh!
[23:52] <VictoriaXOXO> I'll try it.
[23:52] <k1l_> VictoriaXOXO: honestly: just look on omgubuntu :)
[23:53] <Jan\> yeah or any wallpaper site
[23:53] <VictoriaXOXO> k1l_: Jan\: But I like getting things from the source.  Someone called me that once. :P
[23:58] <daftykins> amongst other things *cough*
[23:58] <VictoriaXOXO> Behave, draftykins. :o)


 Hiya, I got a tooth infection, that spread to my glands in my neck, been feeling totally wiped for the last 3 weeks, sorry guys 😓
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[18:56] <valorie> I hope you are getting some super care for all that, @Sick_Rimmit
 Really hard to get appointments with doctor, dentist can't work on tooth due to covid restrictions, have referred me to dental hub. So I've been taking it really easy trying to just do my job and go to bed early. I think I'm making progress, certainly swelling in my glands is 50% reduced. I'll be back on Kubuntu stuff just as soon as I can 🥰