[12:01] <globe> sethk: okay.  KDE is now prompting me with a setup wizart
[12:01] <globe> /wizart/wizard
[12:01] <LjL> TektoN: it definitely should
[12:01] <kud0s> Tekton: yes, assuming you already have the image for windows
[12:01] <poquedoraqu> im not looking for windows help, im looking for how to install ubuntu without access to anything but a floppy
[12:01] <zozue49> i have a problem with nautilus, can somebody help me?
[12:01] <sethk> globe, hmm, that's interesting.  It was supposed to give you a nice error message, it wasn't supposed to _work_  :)
[12:01] <LjL> TektoN: you just need a way to create a virtual machine first, but you can do that at http://www.easyvmx.com
[12:01] <dougsko> chopchop_: /etc/network/interfaces
[12:01] <TektoN> hmm
[12:01] <kud0s> !natilus
[12:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about natilus - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:01] <sethk> globe, might as well set it up, then we'll see if it is still broken when entered from gdm.
[12:02] <kud0s> !nautilus
[12:02] <poquedoraqu> i expect that #windows wouldnt know anything about that
[12:02] <chopchop_> dougsko: thank you
[12:02] <ubotu> nautilus: file manager and graphical shell for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 586 kB, installed size 1424 kB
[12:02] <TektoN> i would like VMware server to work.. I should be able to get it running..
[12:02] <khatahn> hi, can someone recommend a graphical tool for monitoring network traffic? something that shows more than just the total upstream/downstream usage, but not anything as advanced as wireshark. something like iptraf, but graphical?
[12:02] <globe> sethk: I did this: 'export display....' 'startkde &'
[12:02] <graft> ethereal, khatahn
[12:02] <LjL> poquedoraqu: like we can't be expected to know what a hal.dll or a system32 directory is ;)
[12:02] <zozue49> @kud0s: ok i already knew that :-D
[12:02] <khatahn> graft: wireshark is ethereal :)
[12:02] <kud0s> khatahn: MRTG although it requires perl and SNMP
[12:02] <graft> err.. wait, that's wireshark now, isn't it
[12:02] <NS_LapTop> poquedoraqu: just remove any reference to the Windows disk in fstab
[12:02] <poquedoraqu> all i mean is that i obviously messed up windows, which means i cant use it to configure *anything*
[12:03] <graft> wireshark isn't that advanced, anyway...
[12:03] <Jaws> Anyone have any idea on how to get logitech wireless laptop mouse working?  It doesnt seem to see it...
[12:03] <poquedoraqu> you dont understand. I dont even have a command prompt on this computer
[12:03] <kud0s> khatahn: sorry, ignore me
[12:03] <LjL> poquedoraqu: so anyway, you have the Ubuntu CD but you can't boot it because you can only boot from floppies? is that it?
[12:03] <globe> sethk: the loading screen (with the icons that says what it is doing) hung on window manager and then it died.  now its just X
[12:03] <poquedoraqu> Yes
[12:03] <TektoN> LjL email sent.
[12:03] <LjL> poquedoraqu: well what command prompt should you have?
[12:03] <poquedoraqu> i dont know. i dont have any
[12:03] <poquedoraqu> i dont have access to a single OS off the hard drive
[12:04] <khatahn> graft: i'd just like to see from which to which IPs stuff goes to / comes from, and how fast. iptraf is great for that, but i'd prefer something graphical
[12:04] <poquedoraqu> Just BIOS, then error messages
[12:04] <LjL> poquedoraqu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[12:04] <LjL> poquedoraqu: this will allow you to boot the Ubuntu CD using a floppy disk
[12:04] <poquedoraqu> it wouldnt matter, because her cd drive is busted
[12:05] <LjL> poquedoraqu: so you only have network?
[12:05] <poquedoraqu> yep
[12:05] <poquedoraqu> a floppy drive, an internet connection and a messed up laptop.
[12:06] <poquedoraqu> i wish i had a USB cd player, but we cant afford one atm
[12:06] <iter> LjL: know much about fonts in X ?
[12:06] <LjL> poquedoraqu: then netboot it is, but you need another computer
[12:06] <mwql_aus> is it wise to buy a compatible pc card?
[12:06] <mirak> does anyone uses a serial to USB converter ?
[12:06] <LjL> poquedoraqu: what about a USB key?
[12:06] <grimboy> Hey, I've shoved a bunch of pcf.gz files into several places (/usr/share/fonts, /usr/share/fonts/misc and ~/.fonts) and they don't seem to be showing up in lists of fonts (specifically in the gnome default font selection things).
[12:06] <WarriorSlayer> guys i have an offboard soundcard that is called aureal vortex 8830 and i wanna know if ubuntu gonna recognize it and it'll work well
[12:06] <poquedoraqu> it cannot boot from flash drives
[12:06] <LjL> poquedoraqu: doesn't matter, you can still boot from a floppy
[12:06] <poquedoraqu> i *do* have another computer. mine. but its an ubuntu machine
[12:06] <s-ndh-c> hey guys
[12:06] <poquedoraqu> ohhhh?
[12:06] <iter> LjL: I have this config file that specifies a font like -*-helvetica-bold-normal-*-*-*-*-*
[12:07] <LjL> poquedoraqu, use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto to boot from a floppy, and then follow the installing from USB howto for the rest
[12:07] <poquedoraqu> so if i connected my external, which has ubuntu, and booted to it from a disk, i could repair her files?
[12:07] <grimboy> WarriorSlayer, You could try putting in the cd and when it goes into live mode playing an audio file.
[12:07] <LjL> poquedoraqu: or use netinstall, but somehow i think that's harder
[12:07] <iter> LjL: ideally I'd like to use it with .ttf fonts
[12:07] <s-ndh-c> i cant forward x11 data to the display on my ubuntu box
[12:07] <WarriorSlayer> grimboy hmm ty
[12:07] <LjL> never messed with fonts manually iter
[12:07] <zozue49> nautilus copies everything in random order, please help
[12:07] <iter> yeah me either dang
[12:07] <LjL> !fonts
[12:07] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[12:08] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[12:08] <s-ndh-c> is this some configuration thing?
[12:08] <odin> poquedoraqu: how about swapping the hard drives in the two machines, installing ubuntu on her hard drive using your cd, then swapping them back
[12:08] <LjL> odin: on a laptop? :\
[12:08] <poquedoraqu> exactly. laptop :/
[12:08] <odin> LjL: sure...I swap my laptop drives all the time
[12:08] <poquedoraqu> i have a pc
[12:09] <poquedoraqu> i havent got the patience for a laptop
[12:09] <LjL> poquedoraqu, this is the USB howto: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick  -  i guess you just need to skip the parts about making it bootable, and use the smart boot manager on a floppy instead
[12:09] <GSF> hey
[12:09] <poquedoraqu> well thanks
[12:09] <grimboy> poquedoraqu, Patience?
[12:09] <GSF> what's the dir for mplayer codecs?
[12:09] <poquedoraqu> aka, stuff breaks
[12:09] <grimboy> Ah.
[12:10] <rioghal> can you use partimage to make a backup of the partitions in one machine then burn the resulting images to cd and use partimage to unpack the images onto the laptop hd? i do that to install ubuntu to several machines rather than running the installer on every machine
[12:10] <poquedoraqu> ive never had a laptop that didnt go bad in a month or two
[12:10] <Dev05> Hi everybody once again. I'm having some trouble using Gnome Themes under Master Edgy :) . Happens that only a few themes work. For example, the Linsta 3 theme will just change the color scheme and the controls start to get rendered with the Murrina Engine... Other themes just draw like "old 3d". Any clues?
[12:10] <graft> GSF: /usr/lib/w32codecs, usually
[12:10] <new_suse_user> is there a key combo to open up the task-manager equivalent?
[12:10] <mwe> GSF: /usr/lib/win32/ contains the w32 ones hre
[12:10] <mwe> here*
[12:10] <LjL> poquedoraqu: oh there's also this one that tells you how to boot from USB when USB is not bootable... using a CD, however. but i guess it would work with a floppy as well, with little changes (but i'd try the smart boot manager route first) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB
[12:10] <graft> GSF: err, maybe /usr/lib/codecs, as i seem to have
[12:10] <mwe> but /usr/lib/codecs as well
[12:11] <GSF> lol
[12:11] <poquedoraqu> alright, thank you, thats even better
[12:11] <poquedoraqu> ive got to go, iill try it out
[12:11] <totall_6_7> Here is a quick question: How can i get a list of all the packages that i have currently installed
[12:11] <poquedoraqu> i wish she would buy a real coputer instead of a 125 memory toshiba
[12:11] <LjL> totall_6_7: dpkg --get-selections
[12:11] <totall_6_7> thanks LjL
[12:12] <kud0s> a _real_ computer is one you make yourself, piece by piece
[12:12] <mwe> totall_6_7: dpkg -l
[12:12] <LjL> mwe: that one renders in a nasty way, though (namely, it cuts out long package names)
[12:13] <Yakubovich> does anyone know what grub error 17 means?
[12:13] <Crankymonky> Anyone know a way to get Evolution to show only unfinished tasks?  Or how to put tasks on the calender for days preceeding their due date?
[12:13] <GSF> graft: mwe: it's /usr/lib/win32. /usr/lib/codecs, /usr/local/lib/codecs, and /usr/lib/w32codecs aren't "sourced"
[12:13] <s-ndh-c> what could be the problem? i do something like DISPLAY="myip:0.0" program ,but i allways get a message that the display could not be opened
[12:13] <mwe> LjL: yeah
[12:13] <GSF> thanks
[12:13] <we2by> guys, there is something wrong with gnome-xchat. hope you fix it soon!
[12:13] <s-ndh-c> i asume the xserver on my box doesnt allow tcp connections or so
[12:14] <grimboy> Wait, why are bitmap font off by default?
[12:14] <odin> s-ndh-c: have you considered running via "ssh -X"?
[12:14] <GSF> we2by: that's the spirit
[12:14] <we2by> :)
[12:15] <graft> we2by: file a bug report, dude, with the appropriate people
[12:15] <s-ndh-c> odin: sure
[12:15] <s-ndh-c> but it doesnt work
[12:15] <Dev05> Any ideas on my issue? :)
[12:15] <we2by> graft, dunno how to file a report
[12:15] <globe> I am getting the error "could not start kstartupconfig" from my newly installed kde session, and KDE will not start.  Anybody want to help me get to the bottom of this?
[12:15] <odin> s-ndh-c: I haven
[12:15] <odin> t tried it under ubuntu, but it worked like a champ in suse
[12:15] <we2by> I'm using xchat right now and see if it crashes or not
[12:16] <Jaws> Anyone have any idea on how to get logitech wireless laptop mouse working?  It doesnt seem to see it...
[12:16] <GSF> graft, mwe: thanks again! bye
[12:16] <graft> GSF: maybe that's the dapper way, in edgy w32codecs puts it in /usr/lib/codecs
[12:16] <s-ndh-c> doesnt seem to work for me
[12:16] <GSF> I'm with edgy
[12:16] <mwe> graft: I think it puts some files in /usr/lib/win32 as well
[12:17] <GSF> I've grabbed the latest binary codecs from mplayerhq and they only worked in the dir I've mentined
[12:17] <GSF> *mentioned
[12:17] <GSF> yes, that's the one
[12:17] <mwe> graft: at least that's what dpkg -L w32codecs says
[12:17] <graft> ah, so it does... okay, i'll just shut up now
[12:17] <GSF> don't! your help is very appreciated :)
[12:18] <GSF> time to watch the movie now ;) bye and thanks once again
[12:18] <ubunta> hi
[12:18] <styvy> hi ubunta
[12:19] <grimboy> At  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto it says I can run sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig and get a way to reconfigure fonts. But when I run it just cleans up and updates a number of things. No configuration.
[12:19] <LjL> soundray: boo
[12:19] <ubunta> when i start gnome..the menus..are filled with lines..dont understand 1 text
[12:20] <LjL> soundray: recovery took a while didn't it :P
[12:20] <soundray> LjL: :-O  :-)
[12:20] <mwql_aus> anyone had experience with ndiswrapper, where the .inf file has information for more than 1 device?
[12:20] <ReporterX> Hello all!
[12:20] <soundray> LjL: no, once I was up again, I had to do a bit of work on my thesis
[12:20] <unfo_> all: how do i get apt-get to ignore all dependencies and just do what i say?  It's for an experiment.
[12:20] <grimboy> ReporterX, Hey
[12:20] <ReporterX> How do i add new fonts to ubuntu ?
[12:20] <grimboy> !fonts
[12:20] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[12:20] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[12:21] <LjL> soundray: i was going to tell you (some hours ago), since the drive is under warranty, perhaps you want to make sure that some SMART parameter is actually below the threshold, so they'll have no excuses ;)
[12:21] <jackrazz> anyone here using Open Office's database to connect to PostgreSQL??
[12:21] <Dev05> mwql_aus, ndiswrapper loads .inf file that, AFAIK, contain support for just one driver...
[12:21] <LjL> !bonnie++ | soundray, or perhaps just a few runs of "shred", or some other stress-testing software
[12:21] <soundray> LjL: I was wrong, it isn't.
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bonnie++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <ReporterX> grimboy: thanks
[12:21] <LjL> soundray: hm, well, no matter what the bot says, that package is in main
[12:21] <LjL> soundray: it isn't?
[12:21] <khatahn> graft: just so you know, Etherape was just what i needed ;)
[12:21] <soundray> LjL: the bot has issues with plusses
[12:22] <grimboy> !bonnie\+\+
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bonnie\+\+ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <grimboy> Damn
[12:22] <LjL> heh
[12:22] <halex-ab> !search bonnie++
[12:22] <ubotu> Found:
[12:22] <bigboy_> hello all
[12:22] <ubunta> when i start gnome..the menus..are all fucked ..dont understand shit..how could i resolve it ?
[12:22] <LjL> soundray: well, seveas just reminded me that there are no open bugs for his bots right now... time to change that
[12:23] <LjL> !language | ubunta
[12:23] <ubotu> ubunta: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:23] <TC`> !java
[12:23] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:23] <ubunta> ubotu sorry..
[12:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sorry.. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:23] <gay_> hola
[12:23] <bigboy_> I am having trouble setting grub to boot from external dvd drive, any advice? I can,t even find the grub config file
[12:23] <LjL> !es | gay_
[12:23] <ubotu> gay_: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:23] <bthornton> I've noticed that running `hostname` on some machines, it returns the FQDN (i.e. "host.domain") and on others, it only returns the hostname (i.e. "host").  For examples, the FQDN gets reported on Fedora boxes but the Ubuntu just use the hostname.  Is something misconfigured here?
[12:24] <bthornton> ubotu hostname
[12:24] <ubotu> Use hostname <somehostname> to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hostname  and /etc/hosts . WARNING! Make sure that /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly
[12:24] <gay_> #hispachat
[12:24] <bigboy_> I am having trouble setting grub to boot from external dvd drive, any advice?
[12:24] <grimboy> ubunta, Try being a little bit more specific with your question.
[12:25] <azids_rhein> e
[12:25] <unfo_> what does 'e' mean?
[12:25] <azids_rhein> nothing
[12:26] <ubunta> grimboy ok..first the gdm just didnt start..so i remove it from init..now..startx ..run gnome..but dont understand nothing of the menus
[12:26] <bigboy_> I am having trouble setting grub to boot from external dvd drive, any advice?
[12:26] <mwql_aus> Dev05: the .inf file i have has information for multiple devices only, i cant find the .inf file for one device
[12:27] <soundray> bigboy_: don't repeat, rephrase
[12:27] <Dev05> mwql_aus, I then guess that ndiswrapper will load info for all of them.
[12:27] <Dev05> !tell mwql_aus about ndiswrapper
[12:28] <mwql_aus> Dev05: cheers
[12:28] <ubunta> bigboy_ google search grub
[12:28] <bigboy_> soundray the question can't be much clearer, I need to tell grub to boot external DVD drive
[12:28] <styvy> bigboy, to boot from external device you should check your bios to boot from usb
[12:29] <soundray> bigboy_: your question is very vague actually. How is it connected, what have you tried, how does it fail?
[12:29] <rioghal> i just updated HAL what do i have to do to use the new version?
[12:29] <bigboy_> I have dual boot OSX Ubuntu, My internal DVD is toast, and I ned to boot external DVD drive
[12:30] <rgg> hello everyone,i connected my scanner (a hp scanjet 2400) and it doesn't seem to be...on
[12:30] <bigboy_> The grub boot loader has 3 options x for OSX, l for linux, and c for CD rom, but that refers to internal drive
[12:30] <ReporterX> kde allow to disable anti-aliasing on fonts with a specific size (i.e. < 10). This is possible on ubuntu ?
[12:30] <rgg> where can i check if its "on",i hope you know what i mean.
[12:31] <bigboy_> check device manager under system rgg
[12:32] <soundray> bigboy_: is this an Intel Mac?
[12:32] <poningru> !dmcrypt
[12:32] <bigboy_> no, ppc mac
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dmcrypt - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <poningru> !encryption
[12:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about encryption - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:32] <bigboy_> I just need to bypass grub, or add option to boot external DVD drive
[12:32] <soundray> bigboy_: how did you get grub running on that in the first place? It's usually yaboot, isn't it?
[12:32] <rioghal> poningru, i know a fair bit about encryption, maybe i can help?
[12:32] <nuts`> hi
[12:33] <ubunta> grimboy ..
[12:33] <kestas_> t
[12:33] <rgg> ok,in my device manager.
[12:33] <grimboy> ubunta, Sorry, don't know.
[12:33] <poningru> rioghal: naah looking for that ubuntu wiki article on fs encryption with usb key, for a friend, I have it setup here
[12:33] <rgg> some of the usb connections say "ohci host controller",the others are the keyboard and the webca,
[12:33] <rgg> webcam*
[12:33] <kestas_> can someone help me get a web cam working for Linux?
[12:33] <JMC4988> Hi everybody
[12:33] <bigboy_> ok rgg try to use sane to set uo scanner
[12:33] <rgg> bigboy_: sorry,to use what?
[12:33] <rioghal> poncho1, oh, ok
[12:33] <soundray> !webcam | kestas
[12:33] <grimboy> Completely OT, but am I the only one who hasn't been able to access adobe.com for the last 3/4 days?
[12:33] <ubotu> kestas: webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[12:33] <emilia> is it possible to authenticate my ubuntu machine on a windows domain?
[12:34] <bigboy_> sane
[12:34] <poningru> rioghal: thanks though
[12:34] <ubunta> grimboy ..it says dont have  authorization for /var/lib/gdm
[12:34] <kestas_> thank you ubotu !
[12:34] <shodanjr_gr> hey guys, i got a problem with my edgy installation
[12:34] <JMC4988> I have a problem with my MB... it's an ASUS P5LD2 with an IT8212 controller
[12:34] <rgg> bigboy_: what is sane?
[12:34] <soundray> !sane | rgg
[12:34] <ubotu> sane: scanner graphical frontends. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.14-1 (edgy), package size 103 kB, installed size 324 kB
[12:34] <grimboy> Ubunta, Have you tried sudo?
[12:34] <bthornton> What *should* `hostname` report on a properly configured system (i.e. what is POSIX convention)?
[12:35] <ubunta> grimboy yeah
[12:35] <JMC4988> does anyone know how to make it work?
[12:35] <bigboy_> rgg scanner acess made easy,,,, sane
[12:35] <shodanjr_gr> at random times, a while after it boots and its in the gui, it gives me a black screen with a cursor blinking, then throws me back to my login screen...anyone got an idea as to why this happens?
[12:35] <rgg> bigboy_: ok,installing it
[12:35] <JMC4988> I do not manage to connect any hard drive or CD to the additional IDE interfaces
[12:35] <ubunta> grimboy but only for gdm and ubuntu-desktop
[12:35] <JMC4988> HD keeps giving me error messages when I ckecj with dmesg
[12:35] <grimboy> Ubunta, Don't know, sound like somethings been messed up. If I were you I'd just do a total backup and reinstall ubuntu.
[12:36] <bigboy_> Any ideas on my external boot issue?
[12:36] <grimboy> s/sound/sounds
[12:36] <ubunta> grimboy lol..is allready the second time i do it
[12:36] <s-ndh-c> can someone tell me why x11forwarding doesnt work?
[12:36] <soundray> bigboy_: are you sure you have grub installed?
[12:37] <bigboy_> yes, grub boots up
[12:37] <kestas_> thanks soundray
[12:37] <soundray> bigboy_: can you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst pls
[12:37] <bigboy_> but there is no option in my grub bootloader for external  drive
[12:37] <grimboy> ubunta, Are you doing anything that you think might be messing it up?
[12:38] <ubunta> grimboy no..that erro of gdm..came when i reboot the laptop
[12:38] <bigboy_> I can't even find it in /boot/grub/menu. lst
[12:38] <s-ndh-c> what i do is ssh -X othermachine and then DISPLAY="mymachine:0.0" someprogram
[12:38] <Graffiti> should i be running beryl with xgl or aiglx ?
[12:38] <soundray> bigboy_: can you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst pls
[12:38] <s-ndh-c> and it just timeouts opening the display
[12:38] <bighil> s-ndh-c: you are using ssh? maybe try to use ssh -Y host
[12:38] <ubunta> i think..pehraps the cpu..is not supported at full
[12:38] <bigboy_> Is there no command line grub control that I can force to boot from external drive?
[12:38] <LuisMendes> suddenly, my system got muted! I can hear no sounds... what's going on?? I can't figure it out!
[12:38] <bighil> s-ndh-c: the DISPLAY variable should be set automatically by ssh...
[12:39] <ubunta> and maybe could be making something bad
[12:39] <s-ndh-c> it allways says cant open display
[12:39] <Mersault> How do I configure dhclient so that it doesn't set a default gateway?
[12:39] <ubunta> is the intel core 2 duo
[12:39] <Innoruuk> At one point I dropped the file libphysfs-1.0.so.1 into /usr/lib now when I use apt-get a message appears that says libphysfs-1/0/so/1 is not a symbolic link.
[12:39] <s-ndh-c> i know it worked like that on my gentoo box, whats different here?
[12:40] <ubunta> i use speedstep_centrino module.. is the same..
[12:40] <willwork4foo> Hi - I've got a printer installed on a windows XP machine and shared over the network - can I use that windows-shared printer from my Ubuntu Linux laptop?
[12:40] <Crankymonky> Does anyone use Google's ICAL with Evolution?
[12:40] <ubunta> is allways read/writing..i dont know why
[12:40] <rgg> sane is having some trouble too.i open it and it just goes blank while searching,and i have to "force-close" it.
[12:41] <mirak> edgy sucks, they built experimental modules into the kernel
[12:41] <mirak> CONFIG_USB_BANDWIDTH
[12:41] <mirak> this makes fail pl2303
[12:42] <CarCase928> i received an error when i attempt to play a live video broadcast, here is the error: Totem could not play 'mms://<IP_ADDRESS>/cctv4-200'.  No URI handler implemented for "mms".
[12:42] <cmweb> ljl, from now on if it involves the system i'm consulting you first,,,,, i don't want to reformat again
[12:43] <Vorbote> willwork4foo: yes, open the System->Administration->Shared Folders control panel and accept to install Windows networking support. After that you should be able to see the printer on your LAN.
[12:43] <VigoFusion> Hello
[12:43] <LjL> cmweb: good, but i'm not always around. what's important is that you consult *someone* - and that you make the right questions, i.e. what you need, not what you think you need
[12:43] <cmweb> ljl, copy that
[12:44] <s-ndh-c> does ssh x11forwarding work for someone else on edgy?
[12:44] <Vorbote> CarCase928: you need to install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly and bad from universe, as well as gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[12:44] <cmweb> ljl, You were saying something about the security of the system. Wouldent i only need a firewall something like FireStarter?
[12:45] <narrchy> what is the .ico file
[12:45] <narrchy> can i create a ubuntu cd with that?
[12:45] <CarCase928> Vorbote: where do i get it?
[12:45] <narrchy> or is that the wrong file?
[12:45] <LjL> cmweb: not necessarily. Ubuntu comes with almost no ports open for listening by default, so unless you install services (such as a web server), firewalling rules are not needed
[12:45] <ElementalBelief> Hello, sorry to bother but could someone help me?
[12:45] <BlackHawk> gn8
[12:45] <LjL> cmweb: but then if you do install a service and want it to be publicly accessible, you don't want to firewall that service either
[12:45] <Vorbote> CarCase928: If the audio is in WMV9 format, you'll need to install gstreamer0.10-pitfdll as well as the w32codecs package from the PLF. (I wrote the packages are in universe).
[12:46] <Innoruuk> When apt-get says "libphysfs-1.0.so.1 is not a symbolic link", what does that mean? I dropped that file in there long ago.
[12:46] <cmweb> ljl, then what to do....
[12:46] <ElementalBelief> I am trying to install 6.10 using larp but its not giving me the option to do that when booting the cd.
[12:46] <unfo_> ElementalBelief: it is never a bother to interrupt on active conversations in IRC.  This is because there are many conversations going on at once.  See www.irchelp.org for more newbie tips.
[12:46] <unfo_> What is larp?
[12:46] <ElementalBelief> sorry i mean lamp
[12:47] <LjL> cmweb: nothing special. just follow standard procedures for installing and setting up services (i.e. apt-get and read the man), and if they fail, ask. don't start using random root commands (such as chmod and chown). do frequent security updates. and learn how the Unix permissions system works
[12:47] <Innoruuk> Elemental, boot it up in live and a install option should be on the desktop.
[12:47] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell cmweb about permissions | cmweb, you have a private message from Ubotu
[12:47] <ElementalBelief> haven't slept since yesterday, tried FC6 and just couldnt take it
[12:48] <kalikiana> A question: Is it normal that Abiword in Edgy won't import OpenDocument files?
[12:48] <cmweb> ljl, thanks looks as if i got some home work ;)
[12:48] <sorush20> anyone here using wpa spk here?
[12:48] <vasdas> hey hey, im new here and i have a small problem.. i googled it and was not satisfied with the search results... everytime i boot ubuntu off a cd i get this message on my screen "input not supported" ... i have a 20" acer widescreen.. could someone please help me?
[12:49] <LjL> cmweb: for example - the problem you had earlier that brought you to chown /var. by default, /var/www has "www-data" as the group. "group", for a file, means that any user who is part of the group can do some operations on the file (read, write and execute, depending on what group permissions are set). so, if you want to modify files in /var/www, you should ask your administrator (in this case, yourself) to make you a member of the www-data group.
[12:49] <LjL> the administrator does it by doing "adduser <you> www-data"
[12:49] <mwe> spk? you mean psk?, sorush20 ?
[12:49] <grimboy> Come on, can someone please help me. I can't enable bitmap fonts.
[12:49] <sorush20> mwe: yes sorry
[12:49] <rsavu> hello all. does anybody have a little experience in java? i'm having trouble with a method i'm writing.
[12:49] <mwe> sorush20: I'm using wpa2-psk
[12:49] <LjL> cmweb: type "groups" as your user. you'll see you're already a member of several groups - for instance "admin", which gives you the right to use sudo, "audio", which allows you to use your soundcard...
[12:49] <sorush20> !wpa
[12:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:49] <mwe> sorush20: have been using wpa-psk as well
[12:50] <sorush20> mwe: is there a good how to for it?
[12:50] <cmweb> ljl, So the system is basically run from permissions
[12:50] <mwe> sorush20: I'm not sure. I found something on google but I don't think I have a link
[12:51] <rsavu> http://pastebin.ca/254542 -> if anybody knows why it is returning a NullPointerException i'll be grateful
[12:51] <Innoruuk> rsavu: Ask I'll try to answer.
[12:51] <mirak> hi
[12:51] <Jupiter> Is there a gui manager for apache2?
[12:51] <iwkse> vasdas: what? you get "input not supported" when you unmount a cd?
[12:51] <LjL> cmweb: the system's security is based on permissions, yes
[12:51] <mirak> when do they provide fix for kernels in ubuntu ?
[12:51] <mwe> sorush20: and I couldn't get hidden ssid to work with wpa-psk. only with wpa2-psk
[12:51] <kalikiana> How do I import OpenDocument files with Abiword?
[12:51] <ElementalBelief> InnoruukI thought the server edition didnt have live
[12:51] <mirak> because there is a bug in edgy  for pl2303 and usb serial devices.
[12:52] <LjL> cmweb: there is one special user, which has ID 0 (known as "superuser" or "root") who can always do anything to the system - and as such, should really really know what he's doing
[12:52] <Innoruuk> Ele: Oh I'm sorry never tried server.
[12:52] <soundray> mirak: has that bug been reported?
[12:52] <shodanjr_gr> at random times, a while after it boots and its in the gui, it gives me a black screen with a cursor blinking, then throws me back to my login screen...anyone got an idea as to why this happens? (repost :P)
[12:52] <LjL> cmweb: other users can do things on the system depending on what permissions have been set on files. since almost everything on Unix is a file, permissions regulate just about everything
[12:52] <cappiz> someone here that could recommend a router with good peak in wireless encrypted traffic?
[12:52] <Innoruuk> rsavu: try encasing it in a try-catch.
[12:52] <mirak> the fix is know, but this means I can't use my usb to serial device before 5 month for next ubuntu release while the fix is known ?
[12:52] <mirak> soundray: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/39101
[12:52] <cmweb> ljl, right Root
[12:52] <rsavu> it doesn't throw that exception ... it is returning that exception...
[12:52] <vasdas> "input not supported" on my screen after i boot the computer up with the ubuntu cd... any help would be appreciated!
[12:53] <cmweb> ljl, k
[12:53] <Innoruuk> Oh then I have no clue.
[12:53] <rsavu> i did a try-catch with NullPointerException and it does not do anything
[12:53] <iwkse> vasdas: isnt'a monitor problem
[12:53] <ElementalBelief> Trying to install the server with the lamp option it just doesnt show up in the list when i boot the cd. anyone have any idea on how i can get around that?
[12:53] <LjL> cmweb: every file can be marked as "readable" (r), "writable" (w) and "executable" (x). for each file, these three permissions are assigned to three different classes of users: the "owner" of the file, the "group" of the file, and the "others". you use the command "chown" to change the owner and the group, and "chmod" to change the specific permissions for each of them
[12:53] <Innoruuk> Wait, why is it returning an exception?
[12:53] <Innoruuk> Are you refering to it? That thing is a void method.
[12:53] <rsavu> i don't know.
[12:54] <rsavu> no .
[12:54] <iwkse> vasdas: what input devices do you use? (keyboard..mouse..)
[12:54] <rsavu> i call that method
[12:54] <soundray> mirak: CONFIG_USB_BANDWIDTH, contrary to what you report, is not set by default in the edgy kernel.
[12:54] <cmweb> ljl, thats where i messed up last time...
[12:54] <nolimitsoya> how can i parse apt severalcommands at once? fex, if i want to do apt-get remove lostirc and apt-get autoremove at the same time?
[12:54] <Innoruuk> How are you calling it?
[12:54] <LjL> cmweb: but whenever you're tempted to use those command, ask yourself first: is it the right way? does changing these permissions create site-effects? does it give somebody more privileges than they should have?
[12:54] <soundray> mirak: if you contribute to bug reports, it's really important to get your facts right.
[12:55] <vasdas> iwkse: logitech mouse and keyboard, pretty standard usb connected.. mx500..
[12:55] <cmweb> ljl, such as a restore or a hack attempt
[12:55] <rsavu> let's say that my code is embedded into a class named Population. i do a Population pop = new Population(); pop.generateTimeExclusions();
[12:55] <LjL> cmweb: and, generally speaking, you should never change the permissions of anything outside your /home directory anyway. /var is a bit of an exception, since you *can* put files manually there (for example in /var/www), but still much care should be taken
[12:55] <Stanislav> cansomeone tell me why my gnome panel wont load and crashes when i log in?
[12:55] <vasdas> iwkse: "input not supported" is floating on the monitor... nothing else
[12:55] <Innoruuk> I see.
[12:55] <LjL> cmweb: yes, and about restores - there is no such thing. most commands are just executed without a way of rolling back. so think thrice, always
[12:55] <bighil> rsavu: some of your variables is probably null. is evenimente initialized? is evenimente.get(i) null? ...
[12:55] <soundray> Stanislav: probably not, but maybe your $HOME/.xsession-errors can.
[12:56] <iwkse> vasdas: don't you use any other input?
[12:56] <Stanislav> is there anyway to reinstall the panel?
[12:56] <rsavu> it can't be null. i've done it with iterators too
[12:56] <cmweb> ljl, trice :P
[12:56] <rsavu> iterators is initialized through the constructor
[12:56] <vasdas> iwkse: nope. mouse, keyboard and monitor connected to the computer
[12:57] <soundray> Stanislav: the panel installation is probably fine. You can verify that: create a new user and see if the panel works if you log in with the new username.
[12:57] <nolimitsoya> could i perhaps do 'apt-get autoremove lostirc-'?
[12:57] <iwkse> vasdas: they are all usb? (monitor, mouse)
[12:57] <CarCase928> Vorbote: i am only getting audio and not video
[12:57] <rsavu> so, i really don't know what is null there;
[12:57] <cmweb> ljl, so can i go ahead and install the "lampp" System?
[12:58] <vasdas> yeah
[12:58] <pianoboy3333> What can play .mid files?
[12:58] <LjL> cmweb: sure - are you on edgy now?
[12:58] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell pianoboy3333 about midi | pianoboy3333, you have a private message from Ubotu
[12:58] <pianoboy3333> thanks
[12:58] <nolimitsoya> hey guys! i know at least someone in here is an apt ninja... :F
[12:58] <iwkse> vasdas: i meant, keyboard.. so monitor is usb too?
[12:58] <Stanislav> weird
[12:58] <cmweb> ljl, actuly i cant go to edgy i dont think. Laast time i tryed i couldent get my modem re-installed so no im not on it
[12:58] <Stanislav> it just loaded lol
[12:58] <bighil> rsavu: normally java says in the null pointer exception in which line the exception occured. in that line some variable has to be null. maybe you should use a debugger, the one built into eclipse is nice...
[12:59] <LjL> cmweb: that's ok, dapper will be fine. just slightly different
[12:59] <mwql_aus> Stanislav: did the panel crash after some modification? because my panel was stuck in the middle of a screen, until i removed the .gnome2, .gconf
[12:59] <LjL> cmweb: if you can't get PHP to work automatically, i should be able to tell you what to do
[12:59] <mwql_aus> Stanislav: hidden directories
[12:59] <vasdas> iwkse: lol... 21" widescreen acer vga monitor
[12:59] <CarCase928> i am attempting to play a live video broadcast, someone helped me, but not very good, i was able to get the sound, but not the video, can someone help me?
[12:59] <cmweb> ljl, cool. Thanks for the support
[12:59] <rsavu> i programmed for many years in c and php but i still don't know how to use a debugger :D
[12:59] <recon> Does anybody know a tr/sed command to extract extensions (delete everything after the frist dot including the dot)?
[12:59] <cmweb> ljl, il be back after the install
[12:59] <mwe> rsavu: about time you learn to maybe ;)
[01:00] <mirak> soundray: somebody explained me things bad, sorry.
[01:00] <ActivE> How can i tell what kernel i am running?
[01:00] <soundray> recon: man basename
[01:00] <mwql_aus> Stanislav: but i did have an older copy of the hidden directories
[01:00] <mirak> soundray: maybe you can precise my mistake in the thread
[01:00] <LjL> recon: "basename" if often used for that, but you have to specify which extension
[01:00] <bimberi> ActivE: uname -r
[01:00] <iwkse> vasdas: keyboard and mouse are connected to usb port back to pc or in the front panel?
[01:00] <mirak> soundray: so the problem is from soemwhere else
[01:00] <recon> that'll work. thanks.
[01:00] <Innoruuk> Is it safe to delete libphysfs-1.0.so.1 libphysfs-1.0.so.1.0.0 lib/libphysfs.so from my /usr/lib?
[01:01] <vasdas> iwkse: back
[01:01] <rsavu> and ... it says that on the line with timeExclusions.put(i, lateExclusion);
[01:01] <mwe> rsavu: when I first started programming I was debugging with printf() statemens in the programs.  | rev"
[01:01] <rsavu> and i is the iterator
[01:01] <iwkse> vasdas: try to remove the mouse, and reboot
[01:01] <mild7> I have a problem with bttv driver, is there anyone that can help?
[01:01] <LjL> recon: well no actually, that does the opposite -
[01:01] <ActivE> ty bimberi
[01:01] <shodanjr_gr> hm..
[01:02] <shodanjr_gr> .i have a problem getting xinetd to start guys...
[01:02] <bimberi> ActivE: yw :)
[01:02] <recon> LjL: I'm trying to batch sox to convert about 13 .ogg files to .mp3 (due to player restrictions) so that info 'll work.
[01:02] <vasdas> iwkse: booted with another monitor and it works, it's a resolution problem
[01:02] <wastrel> "ubunto"
[01:02] <LjL> recon: "basename" should be fine for that
[01:02] <shodanjr_gr> i dont know whats wrong with it....it just doesnt show up in the netstat dealie
[01:02] <Stanislav> i put in a new video card and i cant seem to get nvidia to recognize it.. itsa 7600 GS
[01:03] <Stanislav> it finds that its an NVIDIA but not a 7600GS
[01:03] <iwkse> vasdas: bah..from the error seemed something else..monitor was never an input device
[01:03] <soundray> mirak: sorry, I won't get involved in that bug report, seeing that I don't even have the relevant hardware
[01:03] <kalikiana> How do I import OpenDocument files with Abiword?
[01:03] <VigoFusion> Would it find an ATI 5800?
[01:03] <hadsa> hi, i need some help with ubuntu install... its crashing when he tries to install grub. Could someone please help me with this?
[01:03] <cmweb> ljl, Forgot to update the repository list, you wouldent happed to know the webpage on ubuntu.com where it gives a list of repositories based on a selection.
[01:03] <mwe> shodanjr_gr: it's not running?
[01:03] <bighil> rsavu: print(evenimente.get(i)) and print(evenimente)
[01:03] <LjL> cmweb: update it compared to what?
[01:04] <shodanjr_gr> mwe nvm, i fixed it. i had to install the inetd package :)
[01:04] <jshamash66> Hi, my ubuntu-windows network was working perfectly before (I have Samba and smb4k installed), but now none of my windows computers can find my ubuntu one, and vice versa. Could someone please help?
[01:04] <shodanjr_gr> thx though :)
[01:04] <vasdas> iwkse: thx
[01:04] <cmweb> ljl, theirs a page on ubuntu.com where you select System Type what type of update you want and some other things
[01:04] <ActivE> I just tried to install the linux-k7-smp kernel on my a64 dual core machine. It didnt give me the option to boot from the new kernel in grub. It did however destroy the nvidia drivers for my current kernel. Any idea what happened here?
[01:04] <kalikiana> jshamash66: if you didn't change anything it's probably windows - i'm serious
[01:05] <hadsa> im getting this RuntimeError: Install failed with exit code 1; see /var/log/installer/syslog and /var/log/syslog
[01:05] <mild7> could someone help with the bttv driver?
[01:05] <LjL> cmweb, source-o-matic perhaps, but it's not on ubuntu.com. but just pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list and let me see if it looks decent
[01:05] <tyler> Hi guys do you know how i can update to 6.10 i cant figure it out
[01:05] <stalefries> !EasySource
[01:05] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:05] <wastrel> !upgrade | tyler
[01:05] <ubotu> tyler: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:05] <cmweb> ljl, yep thats the name il get the file
[01:05] <jshamash66> kalikiana: I might have changed something without realizing, but it's pretty unlikely. If the problem is with Windows, what do you think it may be?
[01:06] <tyler> thnx
[01:06] <recon> I'm trying to convert a folder full of .ogg's to .mp3's (due to player constraints.) Any ideas?
[01:06] <soundray> ActivE: run 'sudo update-grub' and see if it adds the newly installed kernels.
[01:06] <hadsa> anyone?
[01:07] <dafan> Ubuntu coupled with xgl/beryl is amazing.
[01:07] <dafan> I just installed and got everything up and running smoothly in 4 hours.
[01:07] <CarCase928> when i am attempt to watch a live TV Video broadcast on the internet, i am only getting audio, but not video, can someone help me?
[01:07] <shodanjr_gr> hm.... in swat, where is the place to add a new share?
[01:07] <soundray> hadsa: have you followed those suggestions?
[01:07] <cmweb> ljl, this is what the default list is, i have just rebooted my system (or i guess you would call it re-format) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33175/
[01:07] <kalikiana> jshamash66: from my experience, from time to time windows does things one cannot fix with anything but a restart because its network support is pretty buggy. most of the time samba is fully working but windows just doesn't want to work some day while the other day it works. of course there is a *small* chance you could fix it with random clicking. :/
[01:08] <jshamash66> kalikiana: haha ok, thanks for the help
[01:08] <hadsa> soundray: which ones?
[01:08] <rsavu> oh another thing. how can i free up space? i made 2 new logical partition of 5 gb's each. do i simply cp -a all contents from /usr and /home to each and then mount them from fstab?
[01:08] <ActivE> Strange, ive run sudo apt-get install kernel-k7-smp and sudo update-grub. There is no sign of the new kernel in grub. Im sure its doing somthign as it destroys the nvidia drivers. This is normal for installing a new kernel tho right?
[01:08] <soundray> hadsa: the ones you posted along with the error message.
[01:08] <hadsa> im kinda blind in here with irsii on a white terminal
[01:09] <hadsa> oh, theres just a "We're sorry; the installer crashed. Please file a bug report at..."
[01:09] <kalikiana> jshamash66: if you are 100% sure you didn't change anything for samba, you *might* ask a windoze guy, but probably a restart is all you need
[01:09] <soundray> hadsa: no, it pointed you to a couple of log files.
[01:09] <mirak> isn't ubuntu supposed to have a ubuntu+2 developpement release soon ?
[01:09] <LjL> cmweb, here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33176/ i have enabled Universe and Multiverse, and their respective updates and security repositories
[01:10] <hadsa> yeah, i took a look
[01:10] <LjL> mirak: +2? no
[01:10] <cmweb> ljl, thanks this is the one i got from the source o matic which is better? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33177/
[01:10] <soundray> hadsa: please run 'sudo apt-get -f install' and put the output on the pastebin
[01:10] <soundray> !pastebin > hadsa
[01:10] <dogie> stupid newbie question. Is it possible to cut and paste from one terminal window to another?
[01:11] <dxdemetriou> can I set character encoding on gtk1 applications?
[01:11] <CarCase928> Can't get live video to play (only plays audio), help!
[01:11] <LjL> cmweb: that looks fine, as well
[01:11] <soundray> dogie: yes, use the middle mouse button
[01:11] <highneko> dogie: Use middle click
[01:11] <hadsa> soundrayit ran just fine
[01:11] <AndyR> dogie, yes
[01:11] <mwql_aus> does ubuntu support plug-and-play?
[01:11] <cmweb> ljl, so that one?
[01:11] <dogie> ok thanks
[01:11] <soundray> mwql_aus: yes
[01:11] <cmweb> ljl, the one i showed you
[01:11] <tyler> hi
[01:11] <LjL> cmweb: whichever. the one from easysource is probably a bit more tidy
[01:11] <cmweb> ljl, o.k.
[01:11] <LjL> cmweb: they really are the same anyway
[01:12] <jshamash66> Also, lately while running Beryl, some applications have been opening with blank windows- only the border of the window, and the rest is filled with solid black. Should I just reinstall Beryl?
[01:12] <emilia> is it possible to authenticate my ubuntu machine on a windows domain?
[01:12] <tyler> i need to upgrade to 6.6 first how do i do that?
[01:12] <rsavu> any solutions to my problem?
[01:12] <emilia> or at least give it a name on the network?
[01:12] <tyler> i need to upgrade i
[01:12] <mirak> LjL: +2 like a stable testing unstable. because actually I am sure ubuntu is losing a big betatest user ressource by making the developpement version too elitist
[01:12] <highneko> jshamash66: That's an nvidia problem. Try executing "beryl -use-cow --force-aiglx; emerald'
[01:13] <cmweb> ljl, now comes the part that im not doing without guidence. editing. Can i use sudo gedit /ect/apt/sources.list
[01:13] <soundray> rsavu: either that, or use the tar copying method from the Tips-HOWTO
[01:13] <emilia> tyler:  gksu "update-manager -c"
[01:13] <mirak> LjL: for exemple I use linux for 4 years, and ubuntu since two. but edgy is to broken to even want to just report bugs.
[01:13] <emilia> tyler : just press alt+f2 and type that in
[01:13] <Allz> hello i need really help :S my screen is frozen and i cant do nothing the mouse is not frozen but all the stuff .and i was working on project school work :( and if i restart x-server it will go :S and i have to do all the work agein
[01:13] <Allz> please someone help me
[01:13] <Allz> how to refresh
[01:13] <mirak> LjL: actually I am sure there is more bug reports from ubuntu+0 than ubuntu+1 . But it's then too late
[01:13] <Allz> or some :(
[01:14] <LjL> mirak, Edgy is considered stable. if it's that broken, there's something wrong with Edgy, not with the release system
[01:14] <jdahm> hey, I cannot get my wireless connection to find any of the wireless networks and even when I type the ESSID in manually and the password it still wont connect, is there some way to fix this?
[01:14] <xamox> how do I set my machine to boot to prompt? I now it used to be runlevel 3 but it's runlevel 2 by default and it's booting to Graphical login, I thought that was run level 5?
[01:14] <rsavu> i have some questions though. how do i mount them in fstab? will defaults work? if for example i am trying to run an exec?
[01:14] <hadsa> soundray http://pastebin.com/830153
[01:14] <LjL> cmweb: use "gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[01:14] <rsavu> any good suspend/resume laptop troubleshooting guides?
[01:14] <CarCase928> can't get a live video broad cast to play (i am only able to get the audio to play), is there some way to fix this problem, or is there a package that will allow me to play live video broadcasts?
[01:14] <cmweb> ljl, copy that
[01:14] <LjL> cmweb: you should use "gksudo", not "sudo", for graphical programs
[01:14] <cmweb> ljl, ok
[01:14] <soundray> hadsa: okay, sorry, somehow I thought this problem was related to a package installation.
[01:15] <hadsa> np
[01:15] <cmweb> Ok it has been changed i am refreshing
[01:15] <soundray> hadsa: how do you get to this error?
[01:16] <hadsa> well, the first time at 95% it crashed with this error msg im going to pastebin
[01:16] <hadsa> then i triedinstalling it again and got the same msg
[01:16] <soundray> rsavu: if you created an identical copy (like cp -a would) you can just mount the target fs via fstab and it will work
[01:16] <jshamash66> highneko: that command gave me a bunch of errors- first it "Couldn't load plugin '-use-cow'", then "emerald: Screen 0 on display ":0.0" already has a decoration manager; try using the --replace option to replace the current decoration manager."
[01:17] <soundray> hadsa: installing what?
[01:17] <hadsa> ubuntu
[01:17] <hadsa> using the live cd
[01:17] <nn> hello i need really help :S my screen is frozen and i cant do nothing the mouse is not frozen but all the stuff .and i was working on project school work :( and if i restart x-server it will go :S and i have to do all the work agein
[01:17] <highneko> jshamash66: Are you trying to use aiglx or xgl?
[01:17] <nn> how to refresh
[01:17] <livingdaylig> Was loss Jungs?!
[01:17] <soundray> nn: what application were you working in?
[01:17] <jshamash66> highneko: aiglx
[01:17] <livingdaylig> can someone tell me how i find out what my version of flash is?
[01:18] <hadsa> soundray: http://pastebin.com/830160
[01:18] <narrchy> i just downloaded the ubuntu.iso but it came up as a .ico
[01:18] <soundray> livingdaylig: URL about:plugins
[01:18] <narrchy> what the hell is that?
[01:18] <CarCase928> i apologise if i'm acting like a parrot in this room, but i really need help, i'm about to miss a good movie that is broadcasting live on the internet, and with this problem, i can't play the video part of it, i can only get audio, can anyone help me? that good movie is gonna play in a few minutes.
[01:18] <nn> soundray just some txt filwe
[01:18] <nn> file
[01:18] <VigoFusion> nn: can you take a screenshot, or save to a text file, or CD or whatever then continue?
[01:18] <jshamash66> highneko: actually, I can't remember if i changed it.... how can i check?
[01:18] <xamox> CarCase928:  What movie is that?
[01:18] <LjL> cmweb now, by the way, since you're on Dapper, you might want to consider using aptitude rather than apt-get. that way, when you remove a package, it'll know which other packages are not needed anymore ("orphaned dependencies"), and remove them as well. this is built-in in Edgy's apt-get, but not in Dapper's
[01:18] <narrchy> anyone know the answer to my problem?
[01:18] <cafe> question regarding - kernel versions - is there a way to load the 2.4 kernel upon install in dapper??
[01:18] <Phluffy> lol
[01:18] <kestas_> yay i got my got my webcam installed on linux
[01:18] <soundray> nn: what *application* were you working in? A text editor? If yes, which one?
[01:19] <kestas_> the problem is that it is way too darl
[01:19] <nn> VigoFusion i am telling you .All the stuff on the screen are frozen :(
[01:19] <kestas_> dark
[01:19] <nn> only the mouse alive
[01:19] <highneko> jshamash66: I don't know about that -use-cow thing, I was told to put that lol, maybe it wss a joke. Anyways try using the --replace option.
[01:19] <narrchy> what is a .ico is that the same as a .iso
[01:19] <kestas_> i dont know where to look
[01:19] <nn> just single txt editor
[01:19] <narrchy> because i thought i was downloading a .iso but it turned out to be a .ico
[01:19] <LjL> cmweb: the syntax to use aptitude is basically the same as for apt-get. "aptitude update", "aptitude dist-upgrade", "aptitude install ...", "aptitude remove ...", "aptitude purge ..." (this one's different), "aptitude reinstall ..."
[01:19] <wastrel> narrchy:  ico is typically an icon file.
[01:19] <CarCase928> xamox: it's a live movie, from a Chinese TV station, they broadcast over the internet.
[01:19] <narrchy> so where do you think the iso went?
[01:19] <dm_> Anyone know what repo NetworkManager is in?
[01:19] <ademan> when i try and run enemy territory it crashes and sends me back to the gdm login screen
[01:19] <VigoFusion> nn: Just trying to help, I am a totall linux newb. :-!
[01:19] <wastrel> narrchy:    the file command can tell you what kind of file you have.    file whatever.ico
[01:19] <narrchy> its on a windows machine
[01:19] <Phluffy> I've a question about updating in CLI, when someone gets a chance, no rush. Feel free to PM or post in the chat.
[01:19] <soundray> kestas_: most consumer webcams need daylight (as in outdoors)
[01:19] <nn> not open office stuff just simple txt .that i created on my usb stick .cause i have a little usb that i save all my work on .
[01:19] <mirak> LjL: well my opinion is that peopke have different level of linux knowledge and all can contribute the release of a release as stable as possible for absolute newbies. but with only stable and dev I feel I am considered a newbie, but I am sure I can contribute more, but the dev version brokenness prevent us to do that
[01:20] <TektoN> im trying to run ./configure ... i always keep getting the following message with several distros which utilize configure. Any ideas?
[01:20] <TektoN> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:20] <wastrel> narrchy:  it may be a misnamed .ico
[01:20] <wastrel> er. iso
[01:20] <kestas_> soundray, there is daylight
[01:20] <nn> soundray :(
[01:20] <kestas_> it is just that the setting are low
[01:20] <rsavu> TektoN: u have no exec on that partition
[01:20] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell TektoN about build-essential | TektoN, you have a private message from Ubotu
[01:20] <narrchy> im hoping because i just spent 3 hours downloading it thinking i would be able to burn it onto a cd
[01:20] <kestas_> if i use camorama i can chang eit and make it higher
[01:20] <kestas_> but for some reason the previes int heat program is blueoly
[01:20] <lufis> How do I add options to a gstreamer pipeline? For example, running "flac --lax -mep -b 8192 -l 32 -r 0,16 input.wav -o output.flac" but in a way that gstreamer supports
[01:20] <soundray> nn: will you finally please tell me what editor you are using?
[01:20] <LjL> rsavu: don't think so
[01:20] <wastrel> narrchy:  get the md5 sum
[01:20] <narrchy> whats that?
[01:21] <cmweb> ljl, sorry i was away from the desk. Iim using synaptic for all that
[01:21] <Phluffy> I've a question about updating in CLI, when someone gets a chance, no rush. Feel free to PM or post in the chat.
[01:21] <wastrel> !md5sum | narrchy
[01:21] <ubotu> narrchy: To verify the authenticity of a downloaded ISO image.  Command:  md5sum /path/to/file.iso Windows users: http://slavasoft.com and grab Fsum 2.51 or also check: http://www.nullriver.com/index/products/winmd5sum
[01:21] <rsavu> hum :-/ maybe you're right. i always put my build essential as the first package
[01:21] <kestas_> but for some reason the previews in that program are blue
[01:21] <narrchy> alright thnaks
[01:21] <LjL> mirak, *shrug*, i bet they've thought about that when they decided the releasing scheme - after all, it all came from Debian, which *does* come in three flavors
[01:21] <soundray> !ask | Phluffy
[01:21] <ubotu> Phluffy: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:21] <wastrel> narrchy:  the place you downloaded the ISO should show the md5's for each one.
[01:21] <LjL> cmweb, synaptic will behave like apt-get in that respect (i.e. not remove unused dependencies)
[01:21] <Phluffy> :-x sorry, question inc...
[01:22] <hadsa> dont forget about me soundray :)
[01:22] <mirak> LjL: yes, maybe 4 even. with experimental
[01:22] <Nukez> hey guys, quick question... when I try to edit my xorg.conf file its empty
[01:22] <narrchy> should i burn the ico onto cD?
[01:22] <Nukez> any ideas as to why?
[01:22] <metatecqueon4> question regarding - kernel versions - is there a way to load the 2.4 kernel upon install in dapper??
[01:22] <mirak> LjL: but I don't like debian
[01:22] <LjL> Nukez: probably editing the wrong file. it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf - and case matters
[01:22] <soundray> hadsa: I think you need to check your CD -- use the boot option
[01:22] <Phluffy> I've changed from KDE to Fluxbox and now that i'm no longer using the default desktop manager, I've lost the GUI to search for updates for my apps... how do i update my apps using CLI?
[01:23] <cmweb> ljl, ok so il teminal everything and not use synaptic.... whats the search for terminal aptitude-cache search?
[01:23] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Phluffy about apt-get | Phluffy, you have a private message from Ubotu
[01:23] <wastrel> apt-cache search
[01:23] <mirak> LjL: unstable version of debian is a bit more stable than unstable. the dev status of ubuntu+1 make them broke to much thing
[01:23] <nn> soundray what do you mean :( just a simple txt file you creat the txt file by clicking on the mouse and creat a txt file :(
[01:23] <nn> i dont know what txt editor it is
[01:23] <Nukez> LjL: Thanks :D
[01:23] <LjL> cmweb: either "apt-cache search ..." or "aptitude search ..." - both have advantages. i use apt-cache normally
[01:23] <CarCase928> *SQUAWK!!!* CarCase928 WANNA CRACKER!!! *SQUAWK!!!* CarCase928 has a problem playing live video broadcasts, and needs your help *SQUAWK!!!*
[01:23] <wastrel> narrchy:  you should verify the md5 sum before you burn the disk.
[01:23] <LjL> CarCase928: don't spam like that, thanks
[01:24] <narrchy> alright im going to try
[01:24] <soundray> Phluffy: 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'. Or familiarize yourself with aptitude -- nice once you get the hang of it.
[01:24] <soundray> nn: in that case, you're probably using gedit. Give me a minute
[01:24] <VigoFusion> carcase: What Vid/Snd card are you useing?
[01:24] <cmweb> ljl, k
[01:25] <CarCase928> LJL: i have been asking help for ever, and i am not getting support, and i am starting to get angry, and i am not spamming!
[01:25] <grout> in the deskbar applet i added the letter D by accident to focus, how can i change that?
[01:25] <Nukez> CarCase928: what are you having trouble with?
[01:26] <cmweb> carcase928, maby no one knows ?
[01:26] <VigoFusion> CarCase928: Is your Vid/Snd onboard or PCI? and ATI or Nvid?
[01:26] <CarCase928> playing live video broadcasts
[01:26] <CarCase928> Nvidia
[01:26] <xamox> how can i have my machine boot to command prompt instead of GUI?
[01:26] <VigoFusion> carecase: one moment, let me see if I have that marked
[01:26] <LjL> xamox: recovery mode. press Esc before Grub starts booting
[01:27] <xamox> LjL:  But i want it to boot to it all the time.
[01:27] <LjL> xamox: then remove GDM, or disable it
[01:27] <xamox> LjL:  How do I disable it?
[01:28] <wastrel> sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[01:28] <grout> in the deskbar applet i added the letter D by accident to focus, how can i change that?
[01:28] <VigoFusion> carcase: did you read this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:28] <nn> soundray ok
[01:28] <CarCase928> there is a live television broadcast i'm attempting to connect to, but i can't play it, someone helped me, but not 100%, the person was able to help me to get the audio part of the broadcast to play.
[01:28] <xamox> wastrel:  thx
[01:28] <metatecqueon4> Greetings Linux Lubbers -question regarding kernel versions - is there a way to load the 2.4 kernel upon install in dapper??
[01:28] <LjL> xamox: what wastrel said
[01:28] <ademan> when i try and run enemy territory it crashes and sends me back to the gdm login screen
[01:28] <wastrel> grout:  did you check the keyboard shortcuts thinger?  system > preferences > keyboard shortcuts   ?
[01:29] <ademan> anyone have that problem and a fix maybe? google's revealed nothing
[01:31] <KnowledgEngi> hello
[01:31] <KnowledgEngi> i has install jack and selected the option "realtime"
[01:31] <KnowledgEngi> i have restarted jack and rosegarden
[01:31] <KnowledgEngi> but rosegarden return this error
[01:31] <KnowledgEngi> The system timer resolution is too much low. Rosegarden has not found a timer source to high resolution for reproduction MIDI. This could mean that a Linux with one is being used timer kernel resolution too much low. It contacts your Linux distributor for having more information.
[01:32] <KnowledgEngi> i think that is needed a low-latency kernel
[01:32] <KnowledgEngi> someone can help me please?
[01:32] <Toma-> KnowledgEngi: try looking for 'ubuntu studio'
[01:32] <Toma-> they have a low latency kernel
[01:33] <CyDrive> is there any program like trillian for linux? besides GAIM
[01:33] <Nukez> I does anyone know how to tell what BusID a video card is?
[01:33] <Shinoda> hey all
[01:33] <KnowledgEngi> ubuntu studio is other distribution??
[01:33] <KnowledgEngi> or is just a set of package that i can install into ubuntu ?
[01:33] <Nukez> CyDrive: what Window Manager are you using... because theres Kopete for kde
[01:33] <CarCase928> NEVERMIND! it's working now, i was using the wrong app to play live video.
[01:33] <shodanjr_gr> Guys, i just installed phpmyadmin, the installation went on fine, but i cant seem to be able to access it....(on the other hand SWAT works fine) Any suggestions?
[01:34] <CyDrive> Nukesz: thanks thats what i was looing for
[01:34] <CarCase928> VLC Media Player was the solution
[01:34] <CarCase928> see ya
[01:34] <Toma-> KnowledgEngi: its just a set of packages for ubuntu
[01:34] <metatecqueon4> shodanjr_gr: have you installed apache and mysql, as well as PHP
[01:34] <shodanjr_gr> yup
[01:35] <KnowledgEngi> the i can install ubuntu studio under ubuntu ???
[01:35] <Nukez> CyDrive: np
[01:35] <KnowledgEngi> then
[01:35] <metatecqueon4> and where did you install phpmyadmin - should be in /var/www/htdocs/phpmyadmin or near
 <Toma-> KnowledgEngi: try looking for 'ubuntu studio'
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 <Toma-> they have a low latency kernel
 that is true???
 No we dont.
[01:35] <Toma-> KnowledgEngi: yep
[01:36] <Toma-> KnowledgEngi: dont ever, ever, ever paste in here again.
[01:36] <shodanjr_gr> metatecque i did an apt-get to get it...
[01:36] <Toma-> and i mean ever.
[01:36] <shodanjr_gr> metatecque and its in /var/www
[01:37] <metatecqueon4> ok and your /usr/share/apache/httpd.conf points to /var/www
[01:37] <shodanjr_gr> wtf, i dont have an apache dir...
[01:38] <user-land> and ever.
[01:38] <metatecqueon4> are you sure apache is installed?
[01:38] <metatecqueon4> type localhost into firefox
[01:38] <shodanjr_gr> hm..
[01:38] <shodanjr_gr> blank
[01:38] <Shinoda> im trying to install xchat 2.6.8 from the ubuntu binary xchat.org points at, but it tells me i need libdbus-1-2. thing is i have -1-3 and -1-2 isnt installable from the repos. can i redirect all calls for -1-2 to -1-3, or is there a better solution to this? tia
[01:38] <philip> maybe it's just my redhat days talking but isn't httpd.conf in /etc/httpd/conf?
[01:39] <metatecqueon4> sounds like you need to apt-get apache2
[01:39] <metatecqueon4> and run the service
[01:39] <shodanjr_gr> im feeling like an idiot...
[01:39] <cybah> hi all
[01:39] <cybah> i got a little problem i totally cant figure
[01:39] <metatecqueon4> thats ok - I was an idoit once too - well until I switched to ubuntu
[01:40] <cybah> my scroll of the mousewheel doesnt work
[01:40] <mutenewt> lol meta
[01:40] <nn> is there like a base system package? :) I need to install a very small ubuntu on my thumbdrive :)
[01:40] <shodanjr_gr> whats the full apt-get to fetch apache, mysql and php?
[01:40] <Nukez> does anyone know how to tell what BusID a video card has?
[01:40] <cybah> ZAxisMapping  4 5 is in my xorg.conf
[01:40] <metatecqueon4> shodanjr_gr -hold on - i'll get it
[01:41] <cybah> Nukez: try lspci
[01:41] <shodanjr_gr> metatecque cheers mate
[01:41] <Innoruuk> sudo apt-get apache mysql php?
[01:41] <user-land> xubuntu or fluxbuntu ?
[01:41] <cybah> kubuntu edgy
[01:41] <thevenin> user-land: that is your own preference
[01:41] <Innoruuk> Dunno the package names exactly.
[01:41] <shodanjr_gr> Innoruuk mysql wont work that way
[01:42] <Innoruuk> It's named diferently.
[01:42] <Nukez> cybah: its not in there
[01:42] <Innoruuk> Hold on.
[01:42] <shodanjr_gr> yeah i know :)
[01:42] <Shinoda> shodanjr_gr maybe this'll be of interest to you http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-linux.html
[01:42] <cybah> apt-get install lspci nukez
[01:42] <shodanjr_gr> !lamp
[01:42] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[01:42] <shodanjr_gr> there :)
[01:43] <shodanjr_gr> !perl
[01:43] <metatecqueon4> shodanjr - as ubotu said --- see the docs
[01:43] <ubotu> perl: Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is important. Version 5.8.8-6 (edgy), package size 3287 kB, installed size 11436 kB
[01:43] <soundray> nn: sorry, gedit doesn't seem to create temporary files. I don't know any way to save your work. Do ask the channel again, though.
[01:43] <cybah> nukez hold on will get the right packagename sorry
[01:43] <metatecqueon4> !kernel
[01:43] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[01:43] <shodanjr_gr> cheers guys...seems that the alternative install disk deosnt install the lamp package by default...
[01:43] <metatecqueon4> !kernel2.4
[01:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kernel2.4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:44] <Allz|veiKur> Soundray :) are the minute to long
[01:44] <Nukez> cybah: lspci is installed it just dosent list my video device
[01:44] <soundray> Allz|veiKur: what?
[01:45] <cybah> hmm
[01:45] <cybah> you should get something like 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700LE]  (rev a1)
[01:45] <Nukez> cybah: xorg detected my video card but I am not sure its pointing to the right bus... or does that even matter?
[01:45] <Allz|veiKur> (soundray) nn: in that case, you're probably using gedit. Give me a minute
[01:45] <Allz|veiKur> you where gonna help me about the frezzing:(
[01:45] <Crankymonky> What does ro mean in a grub entry?
[01:45] <Allz|veiKur> i am waiting for it :P
[01:46] <cybah> lspci -v shows more info regarding your pci stuff / vga normally
[01:46] <wastrel> ro = read only 100%
[01:46] <highneko> Crankymonky: read only maybe?
[01:46] <Crankymonky> Ah, kk, Thanks
[01:47] <Shinoda> is there a way to make all calls for a package point to another?
[01:48] <soundray> Shinoda: calls for a package?
[01:48] <Shinoda> ie, make the system take a package for another
[01:48] <nn> Anyone care to point me to a resource that might help with making a debian fork, such as ubuntu?
[01:49] <thor> Shinoda: create a link to package2 and rename it package1
[01:49] <Glz> soundray you forgott it :S?
[01:49] <jrib> Shinoda: why?
[01:49] <nn> I'm mainly wanting to actually build a complete ubuntu package system, optimized specifically for a specialized platform
[01:49] <Nukez> cybah: cool, that worked, thanks for the help :)
[01:49] <tux69> hi! can somebody help me with setting up nfs? i can mount the nfs share, but there are only empty top level directories
[01:49] <Shinoda> newest xchat asks for libdbus-1-2, but i have -1-3 and -1-2 isnt installable from the reops
[01:49] <Shinoda> *repos
[01:49] <VigoFusion> I am gonna work on vida doohicky, Thank you all for the help and assistance.
[01:49] <stalefries> !nfs
[01:49] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[01:50] <cybah> yw nukez ;-)
[01:50] <soundray> Glz: I haven't been talking to you all day. I do remember talking to nn
[01:50] <Shinoda> so i'd like to try and trick it into using -1-3 instead
[01:50] <Glz> soundray that is me
[01:50] <Glz> i changed my nick :S
[01:50] <bimberi> tux69: This looks intersting - http://www.gnewsense.org/Builder/HowToCreateYourOwnGNULinuxDistribution
[01:50] <nn> Huh?
[01:50] <bimberi> tux69: sorry, wrong nick
[01:50] <nn> Glz: Oh, sorry about the ghosting
[01:50] <Shinoda> thor thx, i'll try that
[01:51] <nn> nn's been my usual nick for a few years now :) (Stands for Nano-Ninja :)
[01:51] <bimberi> nn: that was meant for you
[01:51] <soundray> Glz: gedit doesn't seem to create temporary files. I don't know any way to save your work. Do ask the channel again, though.
[01:51] <stalefries> !nfs | tux69
[01:51] <ubotu> tux69: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[01:51] <nn> bimberi: I'm actually wanting to just build a ubuntu (exactly as it is), except for some different compiler configuration and so on
[01:51] <thor> Shinoda: I have done lib substitution like that by creating links to <libname.3.0.so> and naming the link <libname.2.0.so>
[01:52] <eugman> How can I download all of the source dependencies for a package?
[01:52] <nn> bimberi: the architecture i'm wanting to target is basically a P6 class CPU with some interesting quirks (Via Nemiah)
[01:52] <bimberi> nn: fair enough.  idk sorry.  i recalled that page and thought it might be along the lines of what you're after
[01:52] <Glz> soundray what do you mean :( just a simple txt file you creat the txt file by clicking on the mouse and creat a txt file :(
[01:52] <Innoruuk> eugman: Search for them in the repos :)
[01:52] <Glz> ups
[01:52] <Glz> not open office stuff just simple txt .that i created on my usb stick .cause i have a little usb that i save all my work on .
[01:52] <Innoruuk> They have -dev.
[01:53] <Glz> Awww wrong one
[01:53] <Glz> :(
[01:53] <nn> bimberi: I'll check it out, maybe i can write up a script to apt-get source everything :)
[01:53] <soundray> eugman: 'sudo apt-get build-dep packagename'
[01:53] <Glz> hello i need really help :S my screen is frozen and i cant do nothing the mouse is not frozen but all the stuff .and i was working on project school work :( and if i restart x-server it will go :S and i have to do all the work agein
[01:53] <eugman> whooray
[01:53] <Shinoda> thor where should i put the link, and where should the package be btw? (noob here)
[01:53] <thor> Shinoda: there isn't an easy answer....many of the libs reside in /usr/lib, but there are other possibilities
[01:54] <nn> bimberi: fwiw, that url looks like it might be promising :)
[01:54] <thor> Glz: you can restart X with alt-ctrl-backspace
[01:54] <esp05> heya
[01:54] <jrib> Glz: don't do that
[01:54] <Shinoda> thor i guess i'll just search for it then
[01:54] <jrib> he'll lose his school work if he restarts X
[01:54] <Glz> Thor shut your moth!! ******
[01:54] <nn> bimberi: I'm hoping to get ubuntu running on Via Nemiah better optimized than using generic 80386 binaries
[01:54] <Glz> if you dont want to help me then you can shut up thor
[01:54] <thor> Shinoda: you will need to find what libs are needed.
[01:55] <jrib> Glz: calm down, can you press ctrl-alt-f1 to get to a tty?
[01:55] <stalefries> Glz: he was being helpful
[01:55] <thor> Glz: done
[01:55] <bimberi> nn: you could roll your own kernel then perhaps?
[01:55] <bimberi> ubotu: tell nn about kernel | via /msg
[01:55] <LjL> !attitude | Glz
[01:55] <ubotu> Glz: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:55] <nn> bimberi: ya, i've done that, i'm wanting to optimize libraries too :)
[01:55] <ademan> when i try and run enemy territory it crashes and sends me back to the gdm login screen
[01:55] <bimberi> nn: kk, i'll stop now :)
[01:56] <nn> bimberi: problem with the Nemiah is it has a very small cache (64kb)
[01:56] <ademan> anyone familiar with that problem?
[01:56] <socomm> ademan: Sounds like your xserver is crashing.
[01:56] <Glz> LjL i am sorry .i thought he was joking around .you know what happind last time .that was it .cause i was mad
[01:56] <Saribro> nn that's actually the least of it's problems :)
[01:56] <socomm> ademan: Most likely related to OpenGL.
[01:56] <nn> bimberi: so some compiler optimizations can very greatly boost system performance
[01:56] <nn> Saribro: Yea, well it's the one most plaguing me right now :)
[01:56] <Saribro> hehe
[01:56] <stalefries> nn: sounds like you want Gentoo :)
[01:57] <[emma] > heya
[01:57] <nn> stalefries: preferably not
[01:57] <stalefries> nn: I know, but that's what you'll end up doing anyway, if it's called gentoo or not
[01:58] <nn> stalefries: not really, i'm writing scripts to recompile the packages whenever my local ubuntu repo mirror gets new packages
[01:58] <stalefries> ah, well
[01:58] <ademan> socomm: well its actually a documented problem, but the fix i've seen (enemy territory trying to use a higher resolution than your desktop) doesn't work, since xorg.conf doesn't know of any higher resolutions than the one i'm running my desktop at
[01:58] <stalefries> sounds the same to me
[01:59] <stalefries> does anyone know how I can get NickServ to automatically IDENTIFY me?
[01:59] <socomm> stalefries: Depends on your irc client.
[01:59] <pvarma> ??
[01:59] <stalefries> socomm: x-chat gnome
[01:59] <eugman> On a single user desktop is there any possible advantage to a root user instead of sudo?
[01:59] <LjL> Glz, he's probably misunderstood your question. but he said something relatively innocuous while describing what it would do precisely -- if you treat people like that, you'll end up with no help. or banned.
[01:59] <LjL> eugman: i can't see many
[02:00] <socomm> stalefries: Bring up the server list and edit the network you wanna setup your user and pass for.
[02:00] <LjL> or any
[02:00] <nn> stalefries: I run ubuntu on everything around here that runs linux, much easier to have one standard distribution, particularly if i can avoid having some machines running a completely different distro.. I mean, obviously there'll sometimes be small issues from the recompiling, but if all is properly configured, packages will be built with the same configurations (Except using a few extra compiler/linker flags)
[02:00] <LjL> eugman: actually, one of the things sudo is handy for is *facilitating* work on single-user machines.
[02:00] <shodanjr_gr> hm....i did an apt-get install torrentflux and it didnt install the web interface ...
[02:00] <stalefries> socomm, thanks
[02:01] <socomm> stalefries: No problemo.
[02:01] <tux69> i already read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo but the first information i found was https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NFSv4Howto so i did it that way. when i compare the two, i only see a difference in the exports file where this pseudo file system is used in nfs4. i tried both ways, exporting a 'real' folder and a virtual folde. in both cases only empty folders in the mounted share on the client side.
[02:02] <stalefries> socomm, just NickServ password, or both NickServ and Server? I assume just NickServ
[02:02] <socomm> stalefries: Just nickserv
[02:02] <stalefries> thanks
[02:02] <LjL> stalefries: use a server password if you can, that's the easiest way to auto-identify
[02:03] <stalefries> LjL: don't got one
[02:03] <RaiderX> can someone help me out with setting up a belkin wireless USB adapter with ndiswrapper?
[02:03] <stalefries> !ndiswrapper
[02:03] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:03] <britt> i just upgraded to a 64bit cpu, which kernel do i need to look for? this new kernel system is confusing
[02:03] <LjL> stalefries, it's the same password as your nickserv password.
[02:03] <RaiderX> ive looked trhoguh all fo that
[02:03] <stalefries> LjL: really?
[02:03] <RaiderX> my adapter shows up as ver 1000
[02:03] <ubunto> hello
[02:03] <LjL> stalefries, logging in to the *server* with your nickserv password will have the same effect as identifying
[02:03] <BadWolf> I am having trouble with xv. I am using a ati video card with the binary drivers and whenever i play a video it moves to the right when i move my mouse from the left screen to the right
[02:03] <stalefries> LjL: ok
[02:03] <RaiderX> but the onyl drivers i cna find are for ver 3000 and 4000
[02:04] <ubunto> how can connect my webcam to my gaim internet messenger
[02:04] <LjL> stalefries: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#identify
[02:04] <thevenin> does gaim support webcam?
[02:04] <stalefries> thevenin: not yet
[02:04] <thevenin> thats what i though
[02:04] <thevenin> t
[02:04] <stalefries> thevenin: maybe in the future. At least that's the plan
[02:05] <sroo> sroo9
[02:05] <viv`d> hello, ive installed edgy, and then later installed a copy of win32 on a separate partition.  after installing windows, grub has been removed from my MBR.  does anyone know how to install grub without reinstalling edgy?
[02:05] <Glz> LJL i sayid i am sorry
[02:05] <thevenin> ubunto: there is your answer
[02:05] <Glz> didnt you see
[02:05] <ubunto> does gaim support logitech webcam
[02:05] <ubunto> pls help me
[02:05] <thevenin> ubunto: read up a couple lines
[02:06] <ubunto> ok
[02:06] <nn> ubunto: gaim does not natively support cameras
[02:06] <britt> do i need a special kernel for amd64?
[02:06] <bimberi> viv`d: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:06] <viv`d> bimberi: ty
[02:06] <nn> ubunto: the problem is that the major messengers do not release full information about their protocols, particularly the codecs used for video and audio communications
[02:06] <nn> britt: There's a 64bit ubuntu release, fwiw
[02:06] <bimberi> britt: no, a 32bit kernel will run fine
[02:07] <bimberi> viv`d: yw :)
[02:07] <Nukez> has anyone here gotten an ati card working in ubuntu
[02:07] <stalefries> LjL: thanks a lot, that link helped
[02:07] <britt> thats what im running now, what im asking is if using a 64-bit kernel will give me any more speed?
[02:07] <BadWolf> anyone have any ideas?
[02:07] <ubunto> mean that the gaim is not support the webcam
[02:08] <stalefries> britt, maybe more speed, dunno. But you will have trouble with other things
[02:08] <nn> ubunto: gaim doesnt do webcams, unless they added that in the last few weeks :(
[02:08] <cablesm102> ubunto, Gaim does NOT support video.
[02:08] <pianoboy3333> I have a question on modules, when you modprobe modules, like "sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel" can they also be expressed as say, snd-hda-intel? Is there a diff. between using underscores and dashes?
[02:08] <thevenin> Nukez: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1779200
[02:08] <thevenin> might help you dont know
[02:08] <nn> Please don't buy the gaim authors about this, either. It's really not their fault
[02:08] <bimberi> britt: actually, i've seen the opposite said here.  no references though
[02:08] <stalefries> !ati | Nukez
[02:08] <ubotu> Nukez: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:08] <Kingsqueak> there's a beta fork of gaim that supports Yahoo video but receive only last I saw
[02:08] <britt> stalefries: can you elaborate please?
[02:08] <nn> Kingsqueak: Hey buddy
[02:08] <britt> bimberi: that a 64 kernel will slow things down?
[02:08] <Kingsqueak> ltns
[02:08] <britt> that doesnt seem too logical
[02:08] <ScreaminIk1> quick question: how do i get the old x-zoom commands (C-M-<+|->) to work in edgy?
[02:09] <nn> Kingsqueak: Yea, it's been a moment or 30
[02:09] <cablesm102> I've added an anacron job to /etc/anacrontab, and it used to work. However, it recently stopped working. I made sure there are no typos in anacrontab, and I've tried running anacron from the command line and with the -f function, and neither of those work. I need help figuring out what's wrong with it.
[02:09] <stalefries> britt: doing anything besides installing officially supported packages will probably be harder. I've heard about all sorts of trouble over drivers, third-arty software, etc
[02:09] <nn> britt: No, it wont slow things down, but it'll run the machine in 64bit mode, and afaik there's things such as flash, etc that simply do not have 64bit releases still for linux, mostly binary-only stuff
[02:09] <bimberi> britt: as i said, no reference sorry
[02:09] <nn> stalefries: yea, that's binary-only packages (things that are closed source)
[02:09] <pianoboy3333> I have a question on modules, when you modprobe modules, like "sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel" can they also be expressed as say, snd-hda-intel? Is there a diff. between using underscores and dashes?
[02:10] <britt> well i can compile flash
[02:10] <nn> pianoboy3333: They are equivilent
[02:10] <stalefries> britt: no, sorry. No source out there for flash :)
[02:10] <stalefries> britt: if only it were that easy
[02:10] <cablesm102> Anacron appears to abort after it says it can't read the timestamp file for cron.daily. How can I fix this?
[02:10] <ScreaminIk1> anyone? how do i get the old x-zoom commands (C-M-<+|->) to work in edgy?
[02:11] <nn> pianoboy3333: They are usually named say snd-hda-intel, but modprobe tries both, because of compatibility purposes
[02:11] <aquarius> I can't get vncviewer to work in edgy; it complains about not being able to find fonts. Is this a known problem?
[02:11] <stalefries> ScreaminIk1: seems like no one does, I'd suggest googling
[02:11] <britt> i see there IS a special am64 release
[02:11] <ubunto> can i connect ubunto files to windows using LAN connection
[02:11] <thevenin> ] /window 16
[02:11] <RaiderX> Is there any other place to find more drivers for wireless adapters in ndiswapper?
[02:11] <thevenin> lol sorry
[02:11] <bimberi> !vncfix | aquarius
[02:11] <ubotu> aquarius: If you are getting errors like "could not open default font 'fixed'" when running a VNC server: 'sudo ln -s /usr/share/X11/fonts /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts'
[02:12] <stalefries> !smb | ubunto
[02:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about smb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:12] <stalefries> !samba | ubunto
[02:12] <ubotu> ubunto: samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:12] <britt> so even deb files wont work with a am64 kernel
[02:12] <britt> ?
[02:12] <aquarius> bimberi: sorry, this is vncviewer failing, not a vnc server.
[02:12] <nn> ubunto: It's called samba, Look in your menu at the top of the screen, go to Administration, Shared Folders
[02:12] <stalefries> britt: certain binaries don't like running on 64bit
[02:12] <aquarius> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/vnc/+bug/71763 seems to be the problem, but there's no further comment on it :(
[02:12] <bimberi> aquarius: ah yes, my apologies, you were clear about that
[02:12] <britt> perchance would mythtv be one of them?
[02:13] <caffiendo> I just set up a streaming media server (GNUMP3d v2.9.8) on my LAN.  When I go to the IP addy (<IP_ADDRESS>:8888) It gives me an internal error message.  I can view it on the host machine but that is it.  Is there something special I need to type in the browser to stay local onthe LAN?
[02:13] <britt> thats the main purpose of my machine
[02:13] <britt> i dont use flash/java much at all
[02:13] <RaiderX> Is there any other place to find more drivers for wireless adapters in ndiswapper?
[02:13] <soundray> britt: no, mythtv should be fine on amd64
[02:13] <TLE> Hey is there no python mode in emacs per standard and if not do you know which package to install I can't seem to find it
[02:13] <Kingsqueak> britt: I run amd64, for that, I would just go with 32bit unless you have enough background to deal with the codec workarounds etc.
[02:13] <pianoboy3333> I have a question on modules, when you modprobe modules, like "sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel" can they also be expressed as say, snd-hda-intel? Is there a diff. between using underscores and dashes?
[02:13] <stalefries> RaiderX: the manufacturer's website?
[02:13] <bimberi> britt: mythtv should be ok.  I've only really heard of issues with flash and w32codecs on 64bit
[02:13] <cablesm102> Does anybody know where Anacron stores its timestamps?
[02:14] <Kingsqueak> britt: you can work around most issues, but you need to be willing and patient to figure them out as you go
[02:14] <soundray> britt: but if mythtv is the main purpose of your machine, and not numbercrunching, it's probably best to install i386
[02:14] <britt> yeah
[02:14] <britt> thats what im running now
[02:14] <britt> seems fast enough
[02:14] <nn> Kingsqueak: how you been man? I've been insanely busy, living in NYC nowadays
[02:14] <Kingsqueak> britt: on the ubuntu forums there's an x86_64 section, read through that for a bit
[02:14] <stalefries> just go the easy way, britt
[02:15] <britt> so 64 only helps in the numbercrunching area?
[02:15] <Kingsqueak> nn new gig, very busy, much better than I was
[02:15] <RaiderX> stalefries ill tyr that out, i dunno why i didt think of that.. hopefully theyll have somthing
[02:15] <nn> Kingsqueak: ah, i'm working as asst mgr at a subway rest. and still doing the army thing
[02:15] <Kingsqueak> nn you just missed me working in NYC by ten months
[02:15] <nn> Kingsqueak: Ah, i just recently moved here
[02:16] <TLE> Ahh never mind I found it
[02:16] <soundray> britt: yes, anything floating-point heavy and memory I/O intensive
[02:16] <ubunto> thanks of the link
[02:16] <nn> Kingsqueak: I'm setting up a local ubuntu mirror, with my own fork of edgy (edgy-nemiah)
[02:16] <Kingsqueak> yeah been following that
[02:16] <shodanjr_gr> anyone familiar with setting up torrentflux?
[02:16] <shodanjr_gr> !lamp
[02:16] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[02:16] <soundray> britt: amd64 might be nice and fast if you're going to recode mythtv recordings
[02:16] <stalefries> nn, Kingsqueak, could you 2 reminisce via /msg?
[02:16] <nn> Kingsqueak: I need to get a server back up somewhere for blog, irc, mail, web, etc
[02:16] <Kingsqueak> amd64 is brutal for encoding/transcoding, I love mine
[02:17] <nn> Kingsqueak: where can i get a dedicated ubuntu box cheap? :)
[02:17] <stalefries> nn: have you glanced at System76?
[02:17] <stalefries> they sell ubuntu boxes
[02:17] <nn> stalefries: i need at least 50gb/mo transfer if i move my blog there
[02:17] <bimberi> nn: what about a virtual machine?
[02:17] <RaiderX> bope, they dont have the drivers on their site..
[02:17] <RaiderX> stupid peopel not supporting linux..
[02:17] <RaiderX> >_>
[02:17] <caffiendo> I just set up a streaming media server (GNUMP3d v2.9.8) on my LAN.  When I go to the IP addy (<IP_ADDRESS>:8888) It gives me an internal error message.  I can view it on the host machine but that is it.  Is there something special I need to type in the browser to stay local onthe LAN?
[02:17] <stalefries> RaiderX: no driver cd?
[02:17] <RaiderX> i aheva drvier cd
[02:17] <nn> bimberi: I get a lot of traffic, so i need someplace reliable for hosting. If i can setup the OS on a dedicated machine, that'd be great
[02:18] <capiCrimm> is there a command which could check which ports aren't blocked by my ISP?
[02:18] <Kingsqueak> nn I just bought an HP Pavillion at Best Buy, works great, amd64 X2 dual core, has nvidia vid
[02:18] <stalefries> caffiendo: no, 192.168 is always local lan
[02:18] <XiXaQ> Not celsius, but....?
[02:18] <nn> Kingsqueak: I don't really care about the machine specs, it's more the cost for xfer and such :)
[02:18] <caffiendo> thanks..  That is what I thought, but wasn't sure.
[02:18] <soundray> capiCrimm: what you're looking for is a port scanner. Most ISPs are allergic to those, though.
[02:18] <stalefries> nn: system76 sells systems, not websites
[02:18] <stalefries> !system76
[02:18] <nn> Anyone got DoD CAC cards working in ubuntu? :)
[02:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about system76 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:18] <stalefries> bah
[02:19] <VigoFusion> Kingsquek: I got the cheapo, Celeron D HP, but I likes it.
[02:19] <nn> stalefries: Yea, i can build the machine myself if need be, but i'm looking for someplace to do dedicated server hosting cheap, with at least 50gb/mo transfer included in a cheap package (my blog gets far too many hits)
[02:19] <britt> well everything seems to work, thank you all much
[02:19] <stalefries> nn: ah, you _want_ a host
[02:19] <Kingsqueak> VigoFusion: it blows my mind that I got 1G RAM, 250G sata, and a dual core 64 for $638
[02:19] <nn> stalefries: Yeup :)
[02:19] <britt> BIG diffence between a rambus P4 1.7 to a athlon64 3000+
[02:19] <stalefries> nn: I thought you wanted to self-host
[02:19] <Kingsqueak> it aint' fancy but stuff is so cheap for the power now
[02:19] <bimberi> nn: tektonic.net, for example, have unmetered (hence throttled) hosting
[02:20] <nn> stalefries: No, i don't have the connectivity for that until FiOS moves in fully here
[02:20] <stalefries> nn: I hear a lot about dreamhost
[02:20] <stalefries> though I know nothing
[02:20] <capiCrimm> soundray, but will that tell me without a service running on my port?
[02:20] <nn> stalefries: I transferred over 3tb last month and was politely asked to find a new host :)
[02:20] <VigoFusion> Kingsquek: Yeah, my bro picked this up, didnt ask or stuff, just brought it in and said have fun!
[02:20] <stalefries> nn: you must be pretty popular :)
[02:20] <soundray> stalefries, nn, please ask yourselves whether you're still on topic
[02:20] <stalefries> hmm...
[02:21] <Kingsqueak> VigoFusion: yeah I walked in and walked out in fifteen minutes with a new PC
[02:21] <soundray> capiCrimm: no
[02:21] <stalefries> better take my own advice and do this over /msg, huh nn?
[02:21] <nn> stalefries: That was a weird month, had a release of BioSim, speaking of which, i need to work on a ubuntu package of BioSim-free :)
[02:21] <Xorlev> nn: pixelfxsolutions.com has unmetered servers for $100 or so a month
[02:22] <stalefries> nn: try '/msg stalefries you message'
[02:22] <capiCrimm> soundray, see that's my problem. It looks like they are blocking all upper ports, and I want to sort through them to see if they missed any.
[02:22] <nn> Xorlev: Very nice, will check it out
[02:22] <Kingsqueak> nobody with unmetered will tolerate 3TB
[02:22] <shodanjr_gr> anyone familiar with setting up torrentflux? ive got a problem here :)
[02:22] <Xorlev> Guaranteed up to 15-20TB
[02:22] <VigoFusion> Kingsquek: Error I am haveing is the XPRESS 200 series ATI onboard I dont knoiw how to Xorg it or what.
[02:22] <soundray> capiCrimm: if you're not running services, all you can do is ask your provider.
[02:22] <nn> Kingsqueak: that's a very rare month :)
[02:22] <Kingsqueak> Xorlev: seriously?
[02:22] <britt> soundray: you're right
[02:22] <nn> Kingsqueak: avg is about 50gb/mo
[02:22] <Xorlev> Kingsqueak: That's what they say
[02:22] <britt> amd64 might help with recordings
[02:22] <britt> duh!
[02:22] <ademan> hey when you install proprietary nvidia drivers you're supposed to change nv to nvidia obviously, and comment out Load DRI, but wasn't there one more module to comment out?
[02:22] <shodanjr_gr> !torrentflux
[02:22] <ubotu> torrentflux: web based, feature-rich BitTorrent download manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1-1ubuntu0.1 (edgy), package size 410 kB, installed size 2688 kB
[02:23] <Kingsqueak> britt: it totally does, I do a bunch of transcoding and CCTV cap with mine and it's very fast
[02:23] <Xorlev> Once you get past 20TB they'll tell you to move up to a different bandwidth solution
[02:23] <britt> okay
[02:23] <britt> i'll switch over them
[02:23] <britt> any chance i could just change kernels instead of reinstalling?
[02:23] <soundray> britt: no chance
[02:24] <Kingsqueak> britt: it's more involved than that, libraries and core utils etc
[02:24] <RaiderX> hm ok, can someone link me to a tutorial on how to set up drivers with ndiswrapper?
[02:24] <britt> reinstall it is :)
[02:24] <Kingsqueak> !wifi
[02:24] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:24] <stalefries> !ndiswrapper
[02:24] <britt> ivtv works though in 64?
[02:25] <Kingsqueak> I don't know
[02:25] <RaiderX> theres no tutorial on the wifidocs wiki
[02:25] <RaiderX> either that or im not lookign right >_>
[02:25] <Kingsqueak> RaiderX: do a 'text' search for ndiswrapper or ndis
[02:25] <soundray> britt: there are amd64 packages for the utils, so it probably does
[02:25] <Kingsqueak> RaiderX: they're there somewhere
[02:25] <stalefries> !ndiswrapper | RaiderX
[02:25] <ubotu> RaiderX: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:25] <britt> okay
[02:25] <stalefries> man, that's not right
[02:25] <britt> so the only probelm i'll have is with w32codecs
[02:26] <britt> eg, like WMV and stuff
[02:26] <britt> not any mpeg stuff right?
[02:26] <britt> or divx stuff
[02:26] <Kingsqueak> britt: there's no problem there, it's that people don't understand and won't read
[02:26] <britt> lol
[02:26] <Kingsqueak> britt: you need to use 32bit apps with those codecs
[02:26] <Kingsqueak> britt: I have firefox running with mplayer plugin and all the codecs no problem
[02:26] <britt> Kingsqueak: i dont use those codecsssss
[02:26] <nn> Is it normal for smoke to come out of my computer after installing windows on it?
[02:27] <britt> nn: yes its part of the activation procss
[02:27] <Kingsqueak> nn that's the 'vista'
[02:27] <RaiderX> omfg i think i foudnit :O
[02:27] <soundray> britt: no, and even those aren't difficult to solve. Just follow the instructions from the guy called kilz on the forums
[02:27] <soundray> nn: you'll have to ask that on ##windows ;)
[02:27] <britt> :)
[02:27] <Kingsqueak> or just think about it and fix it yourself ;-)
[02:27] <britt> thanks guys
[02:27] <RaiderX> nope
[02:27] <RaiderX> this is specifically for some broadcom thing.. :/
[02:27] <britt> im doing commerical coding
[02:28] <Kingsqueak> britt: do read the x86_64 forum in ubuntu forums, great info in the sticky posts there
[02:28] <britt> and it used to dog down my 1.7Ghz p4
[02:28] <nn> Uh oh
[02:28] <britt> im at like 20% right now
[02:28] <VigoFusion> Kingsquek: will the ATI Linux drivers install and flow, or should I revert to a ATI 5800 PCI ?
[02:28] <soundray> nn: 'cat /dev/water >burningmachine'
[02:29] <nn> Device                Total Used  Free  Mountpoint
[02:29] <nn> /dev/sda1             30T   4.1T  25.9  /opt
[02:29] <nn> :\
[02:29] <Kingsqueak> RaiderX: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926   just sub whatever driver you need
[02:29] <Kingsqueak> VigoFusion: mine is nvidia built-in, it works with either nv or nvidia drivers
[02:30] <Kingsqueak> RaiderX: you may need a bit of 'apt-cache search' fu to get the current versions but the steps should be the same
[02:30] <VigoFusion> Kingsquek: The Linux drivers make the Onboard ATI work? please say yes....
[02:31] <Kingsqueak> VigoFusion: I would think so, yeah, but I don't know
[02:31] <Kingsqueak> VigoFusion: I know there are some issues with Ati, but just check the forums
[02:32] <rogue780> how do I restart the network daemon?
[02:32] <shodanjr_gr> im gonna throw this thing out the window, i cant get torrentflux to workrkkkkk
[02:32] <VigoFusion> Kingsquek:its worth a try, ,I have seen those yes, ATI updated thier page yesterday on it.
[02:32] <rogue780> I thought it was sudo inetd restart but it no worky
[02:32] <shodanjr_gr> Fatal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_connect() in /var/www/html/adodb/drivers/adodb-mysql.inc.php on line 354
[02:32] <RaiderX> thansk Kingsqueak
[02:32] <shodanjr_gr> gives me this when i try to use the web interface
[02:32] <Kingsqueak> VigoFusion: we have onboard ATi of some sort in Dells at the office and Ubuntu works on them, I just don't know what card specifically we have there.
[02:33] <soundray> VigoFusion: I had an onboard ATI that wouldn't work with *anything but* the fglrx binary drivers, so I had to install those via the text console.
[02:33] <stalefries> soundray: very funny
[02:33] <VigoFusion> Kingsqueak: Prlyy work with the Linux drivers then, Do I Xorg them in?
[02:33] <soundray> stalefries: thanks
[02:33] <Kingsqueak> shodanjr_gr: I'm thinking you don't have the mysql client/support enabled in php.ini
[02:33] <stalefries> clever
[02:34] <Kingsqueak> VigoFusion: I'd just see if the install works and run with that first
[02:34] <Kingsqueak> VigoFusion: once you get a base system up you can fiddle with it some more
[02:34] <ActivE> ubotu beryl irc
[02:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beryl irc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:34] <ActivE> ubotu beryl
[02:34] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[02:34] <VigoFusion> Kingsqueak: Roger, Thank you
[02:34] <britt> does dvd::rip and automatix work in 64?
[02:34] <nanomike> Hello, Is there a way to send mail with a smtp server if your ISP block port 25?
[02:35] <LjL> !automatix | britt
[02:35] <ubotu> britt: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[02:35] <soundray> britt: automatix is deprecated. Use easyubuntu instead
[02:35] <soundray> britt: dvdrip works
[02:36] <britt> cool!
[02:36] <britt> is easyubuntu in the depositories
[02:37] <britt> !easyubuntu | britt
[02:37] <ubotu> britt: easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ - For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[02:37] <[erisco] > how do I find the command to run an app through the terminal? I downloaded a package and don't know how to... start it
[02:38] <sn9> hi. after a breezy-to-dapper upgrade, firefox does a SIGILL. any ideas?
[02:38] <soundray> [erisco] : what package is that?
[02:39] <jshamash66> hi, I was wondering if someone could help me with a problem I'm having... I have smb4k installed, and it used to find computers on my network automatically, but now I must add them manually. What can I do?
[02:39] <[erisco] > soundray, it was a game... arkrpg
[02:39] <ReporterX> hi all!
[02:39] <ReporterX> how do i add a new dictionary to evolution (portuguese dic) ?
[02:39] <[erisco] > soundray is there a place I can search?
[02:39] <CptAJ[vzla] > hey guys, how do I add support for 7z in fileroller?
[02:40] <archangelpetro> pluma, thanks again for before, nn everyone
[02:40] <[erisco] > soundray and also attal, I don't know how to start it
[02:40] <soundray> [erisco] : if you've installed it properly, you can get a list of files in the package with 'dpkg -L arkrpg'
[02:40] <sn9> CptAJ[vzla] : i doubt file-roller supports it
[02:40] <crimsun> !info p7zip-full
[02:40] <soundray> [erisco] : 'dpkg -L arkrpg | grep bin' for program files
[02:40] <ubotu> p7zip-full: 7-Zip is a file archiver with high compression ratio. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.42.dfsg.1-2 (edgy), package size 1310 kB, installed size 3456 kB
[02:41] <[erisco] > soundray, nice thanks ;)
[02:41] <CptAJ[vzla] > thanks crimsun
[02:41] <nanomike> What i've found is that you can't use your own mail server to send mail via smtp if your ISP block port 25. You can transport mail to use ISPs stmp server for outgoing mail, for local mails you can use your own smtp server. Is this true? Or is there a way to set up your own stmp and use it to send mail.
[02:42] <Kingsqueak> nanomike: it's not so much that they block outbound mail, but they submit your IP to DUL and nobody will accept your mail
[02:42] <stalefries> nanomike: you could try setting smtp to a different port, although Kingsqueak has a point
[02:42] <Kingsqueak> nanomike: that's the best solution unfortunately, you relay outbound using them as a 'smart relay' with or without smtp auth depending on the isp, then you can still receive inbound if you use dyndns and setup the MX record
[02:43] <sn9> nanomike: my isp also blocks port 25, but accepts requests for unblocking under certain conditions. a lot is up to the isp
[02:43] <CptAJ[vzla] > crimsun: how do I input an archive's password? FIle roller greys out the option...
[02:44] <CptAJ[vzla] > (7z archive)
[02:44] <luth0r> what would i need to play .wmv files? if it's possible.
[02:44] <crimsun> CptAJ[vzla] : I don't use file-roller
[02:44] <monokrome> w32codecs
[02:44] <monokrome> crimsun: w32codecs
[02:44] <stalefries> Has anyone seen the xchat gnome icon? I finally get why it has toes... :)
[02:44] <soundray> !w32codecs | luth0r
[02:44] <ubotu> luth0r: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:45] <CptAJ[vzla] > crimsun: how would you do it then?
[02:46] <allz> [17:45]  <allz> hello i am just askin .if i keep trying to do windows stuff thorugh wine
[02:46] <allz> [17:45]  <allz> will i get virus?
[02:46] <allz> [17:45]  <allz> can it harm linux
[02:46] <allz> yes or no please guys
[02:46] <shane2peru> Hey, I broke gnome trying to install a new theme
[02:46] <__mikem> allz, no it won't
[02:46] <crimsun> CptAJ[vzla] : I use 6zr from a terminal
[02:46] <crimsun> CptAJ[vzla] : 7zr, rather
[02:46] <shane2peru> Does anyone know how I can fix that?
[02:47] <nanomike> Inbound is not a problem. Ok i can ask them. "Kingsqueak: it's not so much that they block outbound mail..." I think thay block port 25 and force you to use there stmp server, the IP block is an other isue for me i think. Even if i use an other port in my config i still have to connect to recipents mail server to who listens to port 25 for example mx.hotmail.com
[02:47] <__mikem> allz wine doesn't work well enough for the most part for viruses to work in linux
[02:47] <nanomike> So i can't deliver mail when port 25 is blocked then
[02:48] <Kingsqueak> if they truly block outbound 25, then no
[02:48] <jrib> shane2peru: how is it broken exactly?
[02:48] <Kingsqueak> it's more often that your IP comes up as spam blackhole though and people just reject your mail
[02:48] <shane2peru> when I boot into Gnome, nothing shows up jrib, it is blank, no errors or nothing.
[02:49] <jrib> shane2peru: how did you install the new theme?
[02:49] <shodanjr_gr> why the heck does apache give me a 404 error when trying to access torrentflux web interface over it? The folder is in /var/www/
[02:49] <shane2peru> Used System - Prefrences - Themes - Install New Theme
[02:49] <soundray> shane2peru: log out, log into a "Failsafe" sessions, "mkdir gnome-backup ; mv .gnome* gnome-backup ; mv .gconf* gnome-backup'. On the next normal login, you will start with a fresh gnome config
[02:49] <shane2peru> That is when it started to crash.
[02:49] <nanomike> Yes i am aware of that. Thanks for all the answers, bringing some light to this
[02:49] <shane2peru> I tried Failsafe, it don't work either.
[02:50] <Kingsqueak> nanomike: it's all because of spammers, pain in the neck
[02:50] <jrib> shane2peru: weird, did you try creating a new user?
[02:50] <shane2peru> the panel just pops up (empty) and then disappears.
[02:50] <shane2peru> No, didn't think of that.
[02:50] <shane2peru> I can do that through kde?
[02:50] <[erisco] > hey uh, I was just using the game "blast" and it left holes in everything... how do I refresh all my windows? or my desktop.. whichever
[02:51] <nanomike> Kingsqueak: Yes, I know :/ And even if thay allowd port 25. Poorly configured mail servers are quick to get trageted i've red
[02:51] <jrib> shane2peru: I don't use kde, but probably.  Alterntaively, press ctrl-alt-f1, login, 'sudo adduser my_new_user', press ctrl-alt-f7, login with new user into gnome
[02:51] <Kingsqueak> nanomike: yup, I highly recommend postfix if you are new to this, the configs are plain english and easy to maneuver compared to other alternatives
[02:51] <shodanjr_gr> why the heck does apache give me a 404 error when trying to access torrentflux web interface over it? The folder is in /var/www/ ??? please help me out, im gona slash my wrists with my ubuntu disc
[02:52] <Stanislav> there is no sound for some  reason on my ubuntu
[02:52] <Stanislav> is there some way to reinstall the driverS?
[02:53] <crimsun> Stanislav: what audio chipset do you use?
[02:53] <Stanislav> secletme look it up for u
[02:53] <nanomike> Kingsqueak: Yes, i've installed apt-get mailx witch postfix is included. I had no problem setting up postfix
[02:53] <shane2peru> jrib:  Ok, Made the new user I will try and log in, thanks!
[02:53] <Stanislav> Yamaha YMF-753
[02:53] <JackHanna> I've searched all over the forum and can't find answer. The lcd switch is not being recognized on my HP laptop. Everything else works though
[02:54] <Kingsqueak> nanomike: nice...back in my dayyyyy I had to configure sendmail.cf without m4 or documentation...in the snow
[02:54] <Kingsqueak> I love postfix
[02:54] <Stanislav> they were working before
[02:54] <nanomike> Kingsqueak: I now transport outgoing mail and use ISP as smtp server. My users can use my mail server. But my server is not really sending the mail
[02:54] <sn9> Stanislav: it's usually a configuration or settings issue, but a few drivers are just plain broken
[02:54] <Kingsqueak> nanomike: right, that's how I'm setup
[02:55] <Stanislav> how would i reconfigure the sound ?
[02:55] <nanomike> Kingsqueak: yeah i've heard ppl swer sendmail :)
[02:55] <crimsun_> Stanislav: please pastebin the output from ``amixer''
[02:55] <JackHanna> anyone think of better search words, lid switch, lcd switch...
[02:55] <JackHanna> suspend works but the close lid switch isn't
[02:55] <nanomike> Kingsqueak: complicated stuff :)
[02:55] <sn9> JackHanna: is it an older or newer hp?
[02:55] <Kingsqueak> nanomike: yeah it's a combination of the odd configure method and some old but notorious security issues it had
[02:55] <JackHanna> newer, nc6120
[02:56] <Kingsqueak> nanomike: it does start to make sense if you dig into it enough, but I still prefer postfix
[02:56] <shane2peru> jrib:  - Thanks!  I'm in!
[02:56] <allz> someone knowz how to kill program that is frozen on my screen?
[02:56] <Stanislav> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/830210
[02:56] <Stanislav> there
[02:56] <shane2peru> I will have to reconfigure Gnome, to look more to my tastes, but at least I'm back in.
[02:56] <stalefries> allz: command line: 'killall app-name'
[02:56] <jrib> shane2peru: ok, now we need to figure out exactly what get messed up with your old user
[02:56] <Kingsqueak> nanomike: it might be a bit early for this but look at sasl authentication with postfix, you can use your home mail server to relay mail from wherever, using authentication for the connect, can be handy
[02:57] <shane2peru> That would be good.
[02:57] <jrib> shane2peru: do you happen to know where gnome stores your theme preference?
[02:57] <crimsun_> Stanislav: your 'PCM' is muted and zeroed.
[02:57] <shane2peru> I'm not sure about that one.
[02:57] <Kingsqueak> nanomike: ideally it shouldn't allow relaying except from an internal network unless you have sasl auth enabled
[02:57] <JackHanna> need help with lcd lid close switch..
[02:57] <jrib> shane2peru: ok, let's google :)
[02:57] <shane2peru> is it .gnome under the /home?
[02:57] <jrib> shane2peru: it may be a gconf setting
[02:58] <Stanislav> well i feel dumb
[02:58] <Stanislav> lol
[02:58] <nanomike> Kingsqueak: YTeah. I had no trubble with postfix. Cool i'll have a look.
[02:58] <allz> but how to check what proccess are runing so i can check what to kill .cause i dont know what the program is that is runing on my screen it is x-fire .but when i do the command the system cannot find it :S
[02:58] <crimsun_> Stanislav: shrug, it happens to the best & worst of us, don't feel bad.
[02:58] <Stanislav> =)
[02:58] <emacsen> If I'm having hardware issues with Ubuntu, where's the right forum to join?
[02:58] <nanomike> Kingsqueak: I just got vmware setup so i have an ubuntu to mess around with
[02:58] <Kingsqueak> nanomike: sasl is a bit tedious, but enabling it in postfix is relatively simple, you just have to realize it's a user database and you are pointing postfix at it to authenticate incoming relay connections
[02:59] <JackHanna> emacsen how about http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[02:59] <emacsen> JackHanna: I don't know. is that the right place? Not a mailing list?
[02:59] <nanomike> Kingsqueak: I found some good howtos, thank you
[02:59] <JackHanna> ya... that's the right place..
[02:59] <sn9> emacsen: there are mailing lists too
[03:00] <stalefries> emacsen: every place is the right place! :P
[03:00] <JackHanna> if you go to www.ubuntu.com and click on community it lists web forums mail lists irc rooms....
[03:00] <sethk> emacsen, depends what type of hardware problem.
[03:00] <nanomike> Kingsqueak: I found postfix pretty easy to set up when following howtos and pretty easy to understand the basics.
[03:00] <NoStop> is it possible to get smart working from an external USB2 hard drive or does USB2 not support smart?
[03:00] <nanomike> Kingsqueak: Thanks for all the help/info
[03:00] <JackHanna> ok damn it.. someone has to have info on lcd lid switch problems.. but none of them seem to come up for me in a search
[03:00] <sethk> emacsen, if it's specific to only a part of the system, like maybe sound or graphics, there are probably specific sources.
[03:01] <jrib> shane2peru: you know what we could try, we could delete the theme that got installed in ~/.themes for your old user an GNOME will probably revert to a sensible alternative
[03:01] <sethk> emacsen, if it's more general, then you'll want a more general source.
[03:01] <Kingsqueak> nanomike: no problem, the O'Reilly Postfix book is good too
[03:01] <britt> NoStop: i dont think smart works with usb2
[03:01] <nanomike> Kingsqueak: It's super pointing me in the right way, sorry for my bad English
[03:01] <britt> its a controller thing, not a usb thing
[03:01] <shane2peru> ok, let me take a look at that.
[03:01] <Kingsqueak> nanomike: your english is fine, I was born speaking it and I have no excuse for mine
[03:01] <nanomike> Kingsqueak: haha :)
[03:01] <jrib> shane2peru: was this a metacity theme or gtk?
[03:02] <emacsen> sethk: well I bought a laptop and from what I read, expected it to work, and instead neither initial pre-X display is working, and X doesn't work at all either
[03:02] <NoStop> britt: thanks. that was what I suspected but hoped (against hope I guess) that maybe it could work :-)
[03:02] <Kingsqueak> nanomike: the only Swedish I speak is Vodka
[03:02] <emacsen> sethk: the Grub menu works :)
[03:02] <britt> NoStop: why do you need smart?
[03:02] <shane2peru> jrib:  I'm not sure.  I got it from gnome-look.org it was the ubuntu-Azul (blue)
[03:02] <shira> Hi, I just reinstalled grub after a failed WinXP install, and now when I boot, GDM doesn't load. When I do startx, gnome loads but I don't have any fonts loaded, they're all boxes. Any idea why?.. or should I just do a reinstall?
[03:02] <sethk> emacsen, that's somewhat unusual, many laptops work without a problem (I have several).  what laptop?
[03:02] <emacsen> Dell Latitude 620
[03:02] <emacsen> and people on the forum say "Yeah no problem"
[03:02] <sethk> emacsen, to get the thing installed, you use the text mode install from the alternate cd
[03:03] <emacsen> but I have the NVidia video card not Intel
[03:03] <NoStop> britt: built a NAS server and it would be nice to be able to monitor drives and drive temps remotely. but all the drives are plugin USB2 running with ext enclosures
[03:03] <sethk> emacsen, I never say "no problem" about any dell.
[03:03] <shane2peru> jrib:  Why don't I copy the themes from this user over to that user, and that should fix it.
[03:03] <sethk> emacsen, that's ok, I have a laptop with nvidia and I don't really have problems with it.
[03:03] <nanomike> Kingsqueak: haha and when you're done with vodka you drive home in your Volvo and when your home in your IKEA decorated home?
[03:03] <shane2peru> without leaving nothin there.
[03:03] <emacsen> sethk: yeah but I'd still have to get X working later, rght?
[03:03] <sethk> emacsen, but the installer works with a much smaller subset of graphics hardware than the full system.
[03:03] <jrib> shane2peru: well this user probably has nothing.  Just rename .themes to .themes.backup for your old user
[03:03] <shane2peru> ok
[03:03] <nn> ikea is terrible
[03:03] <sethk> emacsen, yes, you'll have to get X going, but it shouldn't be difficult.
[03:03] <emacsen> sethk: really? that's interesting. I didn't realize that
[03:03] <Kingsqueak> nanomike: I toured with a band from Sweden so I do know that Ikea means 'lame' over there ;-)
[03:04] <JPAULEY> Anyone get xe-emulator to install in ubuntu?
[03:04] <sethk> nn, ikea has some things that are good and cheap.
[03:04] <shane2peru> jrib: actually .themes is a folder, does that matter?
[03:04] <emacsen> sethk: how about the pre-X display, the screen that shows during init...
[03:04] <emacsen> sethk: even that is bad on my system
[03:04] <Poromenos1> my crontab doesn't fire, any idea how i can check if the command gets launched?
[03:04] <jrib> shane2peru: .themes is the directory where all of your installed themes go, you can safely rename it
[03:04] <sethk> emacsen, that's usually easy to work around, by adding to the kernel command line    vga=ask
[03:04] <shane2peru> ok
[03:04] <sethk> emacsen, in the menu.lst file, which is the grub configuration file.  Or you can edit the kernel command line at the grub prompt
[03:05] <emacsen> sethk: okay. See, all this laptop stuff is beyond me. all I know are servers :)
[03:05] <emacsen> sethk: yeah I know about grub... All this "video" is all so new :)
[03:05] <Nimismo> i have installed ubuntu 6.06 on this machine as a dual boot and now when I choose to boot XP in GRUB; XP wont load it just reposts my machine and sends me in an eternal loop, anyone have an idea of what I can do?
[03:05] <sethk> emacsen, the way the laptop is constructed, you've got a graphics adapter on a PCI bus.  Looks, to the o/s, exactly like a workstation with a separate graphics card.
[03:05] <shane2peru> jrib:  What is the command for rename?  I don't remember.
[03:05] <emacsen> sethk: heh, ok
[03:05] <Kingsqueak> nanomike: I did a tour with a band called Komeda, ever hear of them?
[03:05] <jrib> shane2peru: mv
[03:05] <emacsen> sethk: I'll try your advice. thanks
[03:06] <shane2peru> right thanks.
[03:06] <sethk> emacsen, nvidia is a bit of a special case, because the drivers for nvidia aren't open source, so they are downloaded separately
[03:06] <caffiendo> I want to stream mounted Iso's of DVD's across my LAN.  Is there a something like GNUMP3d that does video?
[03:06] <emacsen> sethk: yeah I know, they're evil
[03:06] <sethk> emacsen, there is an open source nvidia driver, which is fine, but doesn't do 3d.
[03:06] <sn9> caffiendo: vlc
[03:06] <sethk> emacsen, it means that nvidia support, in the installer itself, is a bit limited
[03:06] <caffiendo> vlc?
[03:06] <nanomike> Kingsqueak: No I'm sorry, you traveled around in Sweden?
[03:06] <johnny__> ello all
[03:06] <Kingsqueak> nanomike: nope, they were here in the US
[03:06] <sethk> emacsen, but I've found that running the install program from nvidia's web site works very well.
[03:06] <jrib> shane2peru: /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_theme and /apps/metacity/general/theme are the relevant gconf settings by the way
[03:07] <confusco> what's the best email client?
[03:07] <Kingsqueak> mutt
[03:07] <LjL> !best
[03:07] <ubotu> Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose among a number of different applications, depending on your preferences, the features you require, and other factors.
[03:07] <sethk> confusco, depends on your requirements.
[03:07] <caffiendo> vidoelan..  thanks
[03:07] <sethk> confusco, there are, literally, dozens of them.
[03:07] <matiu> shane2peru, is this you? http://www.missionarytalks.com/2006/11/11/episode-03-shane-rice/
[03:08] <sethk> confusco, you want fancy?  basic?  command line?  integrated with other stuff, or stand alone?
[03:08] <shane2peru> Hey, that is me :)
[03:08] <johnny__> would it be ok to resize my ext3 ubuntu partition to be smaller? If i resize it would files or my ubuntu system become corrupted?
[03:08] <brendan__> hi, does anyone know if the the ubuntu developers had to patch gnome and kde to use the /.hidden file?
[03:08] <shane2peru> I stick to the same name on forums too.
[03:08] <jrib> brendan__: no idea, but what does /.hidden do?
[03:08] <sethk> johnny__, always back up before resizing _any_ partition in _any_ o/s.  theoretically, it will be ok (gparted is popular for doing that)
[03:08] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell jrib about hidden | jrib, you have a private message from Ubotu
[03:08] <nanomike> Kingsqueak: Aaa i see, where they any good? Where you in a band traveling with them or?
[03:09] <johnny__> yea thats what i always use is gparted
[03:09] <majikman> a
[03:09] <johnny__> um how do i backup partitions?
[03:09] <sn9> johnny__: gparted will not do ext3
[03:09] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell johnny__ about backup | johnny__, you have a private message from Ubotu
[03:09] <Kingsqueak> nanomike: I was tour manager and soundman for a band called Ivy, Komeda toured with us for a few months here...back in '96 or so I think
[03:09] <nanomike> Kingsqueak: Aaa fround them http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Komeda
[03:09] <jrib> LjL: do you know if this is kde-only or is there just not a wiki page for gnome?
[03:09] <Kingsqueak> nanomike: they are very unusual music, good people too
[03:09] <johnny__> what do you mean gparted will not resize ext3? why?
[03:10] <LjL> jrib: AFAIK it's used in Kubuntu and not in Ubuntu by default, but Ubuntu (i.e. Gnome) also supports it, and if you install kubuntu-desktop on an Ubuntu installation, you'll get your files hidden even in Gnome
[03:10] <jrib> LjL: I see, thanks for the info
[03:10] <nanomike> Kingsqueak: Cool, sounds like fun
[03:10] <sn9> that's right. it does not support resizing ext2/3
[03:10] <brendan__> jrib, /.hidden tools konqueor and the gtk open dialogs to hide most of the system folder in /
[03:11] <sethk> the files really aren't hidden in any way.  it's just a convention that they are left out of an ls listing without using the -a or -A flag.
[03:11] <johnny__> ic
[03:11] <johnny__> hmm
[03:11] <johnny__> what should i use to resize??
[03:11] <shane2peru> jrib: Ok, this mv stuff doesn't seem to be working.
[03:11] <LjL> sethk, that's dot files, but that's not what we're talking about
[03:11] <jrib> shane2peru: did you do 'sudo mv ~olduser/.themes ~olduser/.themes.backup'?
[03:11] <sethk> LjL, oh, I thought you were talking about .hidden
[03:12] <sn9> johnny__: there is a command-line tool to resize ext2/3 filesystems, but it does not touch partition sizes
[03:12] <majikman> so.... who banned me last night?
[03:12] <shane2peru> Actually I'm in the directory and did a sudo su before
[03:12] <LjL> sethk: yeah, we're talking about the file "/.hidden" (which, itself, is a dot file, but that's not the point)
[03:12] <LjL> !hidden | sethk
[03:12] <ubotu> sethk: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[03:12] <shane2peru> then did mv .themes/    .themes.old/
[03:12] <sethk> LjL, I've seen that, I don't quite go along with that explanation ...
[03:12] <jrib> shane2peru: k, what happened afterwards?
[03:12] <johnny__> so I would be better of just deleting my partitions and make new ones and reinstall ubuntu
[03:12] <shane2peru> nothing
[03:13] <shane2peru> when I ls -a it is not there.
[03:13] <sn9> johnny__: it's a tradeoff
[03:13] <DualCortex> Hey guys, I got a problem with Eclipse not loading. It shouldn't be something hard to answer, anyway here's a link to my thread with all the info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304443
[03:13] <sethk> johnny__, if you can back up the files, you can make a new partition and copy the files back to the new partition
[03:13] <sethk> johnny__, that works with linux, even if it is a boot partition.
[03:13] <jrib> shane2peru: what does 'file ~olduser/.themes' say now?
[03:13] <sethk> DualCortex, maybe java in fact is not installed?
[03:13] <shane2peru> it is the same.
[03:14] <johnny__> well the thing is that i want to do is. Make my ubuntu partition smaller so i can make a new partition for my music,pics ect
[03:14] <LjL> sethk basically /.hidden is a plaintext list of files/directories (well, normally directories) that should not be shown in GUI file browsers. by default, in Kubuntu, the only two directories that are *not* listed there are /media and /home
[03:14] <emacsen> sethk: is the text installer on the desktop CD?
[03:14] <shane2peru> jrib:  I even checked inside the directory, and it still showed the same file.
[03:14] <DualCortex> it is installed correctly, etc. Seems like you didn't check out the thread :)
[03:14] <sethk> LjL, yes, I know, but it's a file browser feature, not really an o/s feature, and not specific to ubuntu in any way either.
[03:14] <sethk> emacsen, no, on the alternate cd
[03:14] <nanomike> Kingsqueak: Hmm i think i got sasl working or on the way to, thanks. Do you know anything about vmware? Getting poor performance running vmware server
[03:14] <emacsen> sethk: suck. oh well
[03:14] <jrib> shane2peru: pastebin the commands and ouput
[03:15] <shane2peru> jrib:  ok
[03:15] <sn9> has anybody here upgraded breezy to dapper on powerpc?
[03:15] <Kingsqueak> nanomike: nope, haven't used vmware in about six years
[03:15] <LjL> sethk: whether it's Ubuntu-specific or not, i didn't know, but i do know that it's not used by default in Dapper or in Ubuntu Edgy, while it's used in Kubuntu Edgy
[03:15] <shane2peru> jrib:  shane2@shane-laptop:/home/shane$ mv  .themes .themes.backup
[03:15] <shane2peru> mv: cannot move `.themes' to `.themes.backup': Permission denied
[03:15] <shane2peru> shane2@shane-laptop:/home/shane$ sudo mv .themes .themes.backup
[03:15] <shane2peru> shane2@shane-laptop:/home/shane$ ls
[03:15] <NewpZ> if i close the lid to my laptop then reopen it, it freezes the system.. does this happen to anyone else?
[03:15] <sethk> LjL, it's straight kde
[03:15] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell shane2peru about paste | shane2peru, you have a private message from Ubotu
[03:16] <LjL> sethk: well, and straight Gnome as well it appears, since Gnome dialogs (and i suppose Nautilus) respect that too
[03:16] <nn> NewpZ: That's an APM issue
[03:16] <shane2peru> sorry, I'm new to this thing.
[03:16] <jrib> shane2peru: pastebin 'ls -a'
[03:16] <sethk> LjL, hmm, I'll have to look at that.
[03:16] <NewpZ> never happend in breezy
[03:16] <shane2peru> just paste it here?
[03:16] <sethk> jrib, you'll want -la probably
[03:16] <sethk> NewpZ, there are some glitches in the power save features.
[03:17] <jrib> shane2peru: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org , then give us the link
[03:17] <sethk> NewpZ, you'll find postings of many similar things.
[03:17] <sn9> NewpZ: try the kernel arg "acpi=force"
[03:17] <NewpZ> sethk,  is there a work around?
[03:17] <NewpZ> k
[03:17] <DualCortex> Hey guys, I got a problem with Eclipse not loading. It shouldn't be something hard to answer, anyway here's a link to my thread with all the info: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=304443
[03:17] <sethk> NewpZ, try sn9's suggestion
[03:17] <sethk> NewpZ, there are other similar configuration things you can try.  sometimes they help, but not always.
[03:18] <sethk> DualCortex, did you answer my question about whether you are sure java is installed?
[03:18] <NewpZ> i just disabled it all in the gnome power mngt
[03:18] <sethk> NewpZ, you have to disable it on the kernel command line for it to really "take"
[03:18] <shane2peru> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33188/
[03:19] <NewpZ> im hitting the close lid button .. hit it about 100 time now.. still everything is ok. so i guess thats an ok fix
[03:19] <Kingsqueak> DualCortex: 'eclipse' is probably a script that sets $JAVA_HOME to the wrong spot
[03:19] <sethk> NewpZ, if it works, I won't argue.  :)
[03:19] <DualCortex> sethk: Yes I did..sorry forgot to put your name. It's correctly installed and  /usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse loads up Eclipse fine.
[03:19] <NewpZ> acpi + linux = bad
[03:19] <Kingsqueak> DualCortex: if you look at 'which eclipse' see if it's a script and set JAVA_HOME to where you installed 1.5
[03:19] <NewpZ> i wish they would focus more on laptop support
[03:20] <sethk> DualCortex, check Kingsqueak's suggest.  to  "which eclipse"  to see if it's really running a script or an alias.
[03:20] <K^Holtz> i just upgraded to edgy and it says i'm still on dapper... help plz
[03:20] <sethk> dort, not to
[03:20] <shane2peru> jrib: oops, sorry that was not the right one.
[03:20] <sn9> NewpZ: acpi still usually beats apm
[03:20] <sethk> can't type.
[03:20] <DualCortex> KIngsqueak, what's "which eclipse"   :P
[03:20] <K^Holtz> i ran sudo aptitude update and  sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[03:20] <coz_> K^Holtz, did you upgrade or clean install
[03:20] <nanomike> Kingsqueak: Np, It's pretty cool and free now. Thanks for everything, gonna continue configure mail/www server :) Here have some vodka
[03:20] <sethk> DualCortex, I meant to say   run "which eclipse"
[03:20] <DualCortex> Kingsqueak, what's "which eclipse"   :P
[03:20] <Kingsqueak> DualCortex: you tell me, it will tell you where 'eclipse' is
[03:20] <K^Holtz> coz_: ^^
[03:20] <Kingsqueak> DualCortex: according to your PATH
[03:21] <NewpZ> acpi || apm still is no good in linux.. very few laptops / desktops works with them
[03:21] <NewpZ> suspend is a joke
[03:21] <shane2peru> jrib:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33189/  here it is
[03:21] <DualCortex> Kingsqueak, oh ok, didn't know it was a command. Here's the output:  /usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse
[03:21] <IndyGUnFreak> how do i register my nickname on Xchat and freenode?
[03:21] <Kingsqueak> DualCortex: now do 'file /usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse'
[03:21] <tonyyarusso> !register : IndyGUnFreak
[03:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about register : IndyGUnFreak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <coz_> K^Holtz, you upgraded well... that may be the problem... what you mihgt consider... later... is a clean install ... overwriting what you have on the drive
[03:21] <tonyyarusso> !register | IndyGUnFreak
[03:21] <ubotu> IndyGUnFreak: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[03:21] <sethk> IndyGUnFreak, it's on their web page
[03:21] <tonyyarusso> It helps if I get my syntax right
[03:22] <IndyGUnFreak> sorry, never found the webpage.
[03:22] <shane2peru> sethk:  where is there web page?
[03:22] <SurfnKid> !bluetooth
[03:22] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[03:22] <sethk> shane2peru, www.freenode.net?
[03:22] <jrib> shane2peru: hmmmmmm try 'sudo mv .themes .themes.backup' again
[03:22] <K^Holtz> coz_: whats wrong w/ the conventional way for upgrading?
[03:22] <DualCortex> Kingsqueak, output pastebin'ed
[03:22] <Poromenos1> my cron isn't running, any ideas?
[03:23] <shane2peru> jrib:  ok
[03:23] <Kingsqueak> DualCortex: link?
[03:23] <DualCortex> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33190/
[03:23] <sethk> Poromenos1, is it not running when you start up?  is it dying?  what happens if you start it manually?
[03:23] <DualCortex> Kingsqueak, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/33190/
[03:23] <sn9> K^Holtz: did you change your sources.list?
[03:23] <K^Holtz> sn9: not before i upgraded