[06:20] <doctormo> n2diy: crtl-alt-backspace resets the X windows system
[06:20] <threeonefour> doctormo, i am asking the name of the program   so what is the name of the program
[06:20] <Flannel> Dues: not really sure.  You might try asking in ##windows
[06:20] <pord> i cant get anything to work that requires root password. I get password right it then it does nothing and sits there
[06:20] <n2diy> doctormo: yes, it does.
[06:20] <stepanstas> i just installed wine, where is it and how does it work?
[06:20] <Flannel> pord: ubuntu doesn't ahve a root password by default, we use sudo.
[06:20] <Flannel> !sudo | pord
[06:20] <ubotu> pord: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:20] <pord> i been using sudo
[06:20] <pord> but still does nothing
[06:21] <doctormo> stepanstas: type in `wine program.exe` to run a windows program
[06:21] <n2diy> Dues: try it.
[06:21] <SilentDis> stepanstas, you can usually type 'wine windowsexecutableprogram.exe' and it'll try it's best :)
[06:21] <nomasteryoda> !wine
[06:21] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:21] <ubuntu> i have already followed the instruction on the fixresolutionshowto with no luck
[06:21] <stepanstas> doctormo, silentdis: do i have to go through terminal each time?
[06:21] <SilentDis> pord, what are you trying to do?  I missed your question
[06:21] <threeonefour> nomasteryoda,  what program detects bad sector on linux
[06:21] <nomasteryoda> ie4linux works with wine
[06:22] <ubuntu> doctormo how do you want me to send you the xorg.conf
[06:22] <nomasteryoda> fsck should
[06:22] <HP_> jeje... no speak spanish?
[06:22] <pord> This is what i tried:/Desktop$ sudo sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9746-pkg1.run
[06:22] <pord> Password:
[06:22] <pord> pord@pord-desktop:~/Desktop$            <<< sit here and doesnt load installer.... same for any other app that needs sudo
[06:22] <doctormo> stepanstas: no, both kde and gnome allow you to run exes
[06:22] <SilentDis> stepanstas, if you want, you can hit ctrl-f2 and type it there.  or, create a link on your desktop/applications menu/etc
[06:22] <drmemory> Problem:  I have an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M in my laptop.  I installed ATI's fglrx driver to accelerate the graphics, which worked.  But now I can't play mp3 audio files (realPlayer).  Anybody know what to do about this?
[06:22] <nomasteryoda> threeonefour, boot up the live cd and run fsck on the /dev/hdb
[06:22] <pord> u need the codec drmemory
[06:22] <nomasteryoda> type man fsck for detailed instruction
[06:22] <drmemory> (I know, get rid of the radeon, but it iss too late for that.)
[06:23] <threeonefour> nomasteryoda,  thx
[06:23] <stepanstas> doctormo: how do i do that?
[06:23] <doctormo> drmemory: perhaps it's an oss problem, tr using aoss
[06:23] <doctormo> stepanstas: single click on the exe should do it
[06:23] <SilentDis> pord, i'd recommend envy to do the nvidia install personally... as for why it didn't run, you do have permission to sudo, right?
[06:23] <drmemory> pord: mp3 codec?  is that ATI specific, or something general?
[06:23] <pord> yeah i do
[06:24] <ubuntu> doctormo? it wont let me pm you (something about spam)
[06:24] <pord> nothing to do with ati drmemory u can get it from the install/remove
[06:24] <drmemory> oog.  Sorry ppl, I am a newbie at linux. doctormo: oss?
[06:24] <doctormo> ubuntu: email me doctormo [at]  gmail.com
[06:24] <toulouse> how do i check the UUID of a partition???
[06:24] <toulouse> the command *
[06:24] <k010> how can i load a script at boot?
[06:24] <nomasteryoda> vol_id
[06:24] <doctormo> drmemory: open source sound, an old sound system which ubuntu still uses for some system sounds.
[06:24] <toulouse> vol_id will do it?
[06:24] <drmemory> pord:  ok, thanks.  I'll give it a shot
[06:25] <SilentDis> ubuntu, PMs are off for most users, gatta register with nickserv to enable them.  if you have a question, it's best to keep it here in room, so we can all learn.  if it's big text stuff, use pastebin :)
[06:25] <doctormo> drmemory: alsa is the new sound system which should be used
[06:25] <nomasteryoda> yup
[06:25] <nomasteryoda> vol_id /dev/hdb1 for example
[06:25] <stepanstas> doctormo: single click doesnt do anything
[06:25] <doctormo> drmemory: but things like realplayer and flash player use oss still
[06:25] <toulouse> nomasteryoda: thanx
[06:25] <doctormo> stepanstas: then you have an error
[06:25] <nomasteryoda> np
[06:25] <dotLou> I'm using the ubuntu live cd, and I've got a little problem with gaim, I'd be glad if someone had a solution :)
[06:26] <drmemory> doctormo:  oog! so aoss is worth a try?
[06:26] <doctormo> stepanstas: open up a terminal and go to the directory and type `wine program.exe` it should tell you what the program is.
[06:26] <turbolover> -hey guys, any of you manage to get a usb midi controller working?
[06:26] <doctormo> drmemory: sudo apt-get install aoss
[06:26] <turbolover> like an oxygen 8
[06:26] <nomasteryoda> actually, vol_id returns more info than you need, but useful nonetheless
[06:26] <SilentDis> dotLou, more info please :)  what's the error/problem/etc? :)
[06:26] <dotLou> The problem I'm having with gaim is odd. It crashes when it connects to MSN.
[06:26] <stepanstas> doctormo: well the only file i have to test is paint.net setup
[06:26] <stepanstas> doctormo: it failed
[06:26] <drmemory> doctormo: sounds too easy to be true.  thanks
[06:26] <nomasteryoda> dotLou, call MS
[06:26] <nomasteryoda> =D
[06:27] <dotLou> nomasteryoda: I'd rather not waste my time on the MS phonline kthx =p
[06:27] <doctormo> stepanstas: I don't think that'll run anyway
[06:27] <adub_> how do you burn a video cd with k3b
[06:27] <doctormo> drmemory: you also need to run the program through aoss
[06:27] <drmemory> Jordan_U:  This is Jeff Bulf.  Thank you for referring me to this channel at yr folks' NYE party
[06:27] <stepanstas> doctormo: are the limits of wine only exe that run by themselves, no installs and stuff?
[06:27] <ubuntu> i sent you the the email doctormo
[06:27] <theflyingfool> here is my stupid question for the night, is there any advantage to installing via live cd or is the alternative the better way to go
[06:27] <SilentDis> dotLou, that's a bit odd... could just be bad data coming down from the server and crashing it though.  have you used the other protocols in it without trouble?
[06:27] <nomasteryoda> dotLou, i would try removing the msn profile from your .gaim file if possible or if it even exists
[06:28] <doctormo> stepanstas: nothing should run by it's self
[06:28] <nomasteryoda> then trying agin...
[06:28] <drmemory> doctormo:  run the program?
[06:28] <Jordan_U> drmemory: Hey, still having problems?
[06:28] <pollywog> I finally got wifi working and all I did was modify /etc/network/interfaces and then use RaConfig to connect with WPA
[06:28] <drmemory> doctormo:  like RealPlayer?
[06:28] <doctormo> drmemory: yes
[06:28] <pollywog> I am not sure I can get WEP to work
[06:28] <dotLou> nomasteryoda, SilentDis: I'm not the only one with this problem apparently. A friend of mine has the same problem. It's odd really. I haven't tried any other client, I'd rather use gaim if I can.
[06:28] <nomasteryoda> theflyingfool, does not really matter, but I think the alternate cd is slower
[06:28] <pollywog> but WPA is better anyway
[06:29] <drmemory> Jordan_U: higher problems, about higher things.  I upgraded sucessfully to Edgy.  Works fine
[06:29] <theflyingfool> does ubuntu have a netinstall cd so i can have it not install some stuff?
[06:29] <nomasteryoda> dotLou, you may need a newer version than is in the repos for the version of Ubuntu you are using...
[06:29] <SilentDis> dotLou, i don't blame you.  gaim is nice for a gui chat app.  I tend to stick to text based for chat, personally, using centericq right now, as example :)
[06:29] <Jordan_U> !install | theflyingfool
[06:29] <ubotu> theflyingfool: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[06:29] <nomasteryoda> just my guess.. .i IRC mostly nowadays
[06:29] <_magez_> !beryl
[06:29] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[06:29] <drmemory> Jordan_U: NetworkManager is a winner
[06:30] <nomasteryoda> yes that nm-applet works very well
[06:30] <doctormo> ubuntu: the horz/vert Hz is that required?
[06:30] <stepanstas> doctor mo: can you give some example of programs that work with wine?
[06:30] <dotLou> SilentDis: I don't want gaim for anything but MSN really, as it's probably the best for that for linux. I'd use trillian if I could to be perfectly honest. I'm using xchat for irc though
[06:30] <nomasteryoda> winzip stepanstas
[06:30] <pollywog> is there a WPA front end besides RaConfig?
[06:30] <ce33na66> I want a process to start on bootup and automatically restart if it is killed. How can I do this?
[06:30] <doctormo> stepanstas: microsoft office 2003
[06:31] <nomasteryoda> dvdshrink, internet explorer... yup, office, firefox, etc.
[06:31] <nomasteryoda> a great many
[06:31] <SilentDis> stepanstas, WoW :D
[06:31] <stepanstas> wow, ok
[06:31] <pollywog> seems the wifi frontends that come with kubuntu are only for WEP
[06:32] <ubuntu> what do you mean?
[06:32] <SilentDis> stepanstas, that's World Of Warcraft.  it needs a few tweaks, and it's even easier to get working right with wrappers like Cedega, but linux + wine does let you play :)
[06:32] <ubuntu> in the howto it said it needs to be there
[06:33] <Pirate-King> what is the best player and program for playing mp3's and loading an Ipod?
[06:33] <pollywog> gtkpod ?
[06:33] <chinoke> hi, where can i find a nice howto to configure rp-pppoe with radius
[06:33] <doctormo> ubuntu: but it's a flatscreen right?
[06:33] <ubuntu> yes widescreen aswell
[06:33] <nomasteryoda> Pirate-King, amarok
[06:33] <nomasteryoda> 1.4.x
[06:33] <turbolover> ive heard that defcon works fine under wine in ubuntu, im running dfapper and i get some error about not being able to find fonts
[06:33] <doctormo> ubuntu: then I fail to see why those settings are needed
[06:33] <turbolover> and it skips extracting all the files
[06:33] <pollywog> nomasteryoda: does amarok load ipods?
[06:34] <nomasteryoda> yup
[06:34] <stepanstas> silentdis: i thought you ment wow as in wow, are the graphics good on games
[06:34] <nomasteryoda> i do it on my shuffle
[06:34] <doctormo> ubuntu: they're CRT settings
[06:34] <theflyingfool> is running the home dir from an external drive, a good idea?
[06:34] <pollywog> I have used it to play but could not get music onto the ipod
[06:34] <ubuntu> so i should just erase them
[06:34] <doctormo> ubuntu: comment them out
[06:34] <nomasteryoda> mine syncs perfectly
[06:34] <Pirate-King> ok amarok
[06:34] <Pirate-King> it is
[06:34] <pollywog> I will try it again
[06:34] <ubuntu> okay thanks ill try that and restart kdm
[06:34] <SilentDis> stepanstas, WoW runs at at a full 40fps for me, even with it in a window, and beryl running :)
[06:35] <Jordan_U> theflyingfool: I don't see anything wrong with it
[06:35] <chinoke> can some one help me
[06:35] <pollywog> chinoke what is the question?
[06:35] <chinoke> pollywog, where can i find a nice howto to configure rp-pppoe with radius
[06:35] <moquist> how can I find out which version of gcc was used to compile my kernel?
[06:36] <pollywog> I don't know maybe someone else knows
[06:36] <Instabin> !sil3114
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sil3114 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <theflyingfool> i am having a really odd problem on my ubuntu box, the internet is only partly working
[06:36] <pollywog> I was not sure that roaring penguin was still in use
[06:36] <chinoke> pollywog, oky
[06:36] <Instabin> how can i get ubuntu to recognize my hardware raid
[06:36] <SilentDis> !pppoe | chinoke
[06:36] <ubotu> chinoke: Setting up an ADSL/PPPoE connection? Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[06:36] <pollywog> I know my Linksys router can use rp-pppoe
[06:36] <stepanstas> silentdis: thats awesome
[06:37] <chinoke> ubotu, ADSLPPPOE server ??
[06:37] <Jordan_U> !raid | Instabin
[06:37] <ubotu> Instabin: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[06:37] <stepanstas> silentdis:i just need something quick to test it on
[06:37] <Instabin> Jordan_U : hard ware not software
[06:37] <SilentDis> stepanstas, it makes my friends jaws drop when i 'spin the cube' with beryl and look at the game backwards ;)
[06:37] <jisatsu_> why does the / directory still have a .. directory listed? seems odd to me
[06:37] <impulse29> Does anyone have experience with Ubuntu 6.10 on powermac G5's? I tried installing a previous version (5.1), and it just made the fans spin like mad, and didn't go anywhere
[06:37] <pollywog> chinoke I think uotu is a bot
[06:38] <pollywog> chinoke I think ubotu is a bot
[06:38] <ubuntu> doctormo: that didn't work. it still doesn't give me any widescreen resolutions.
[06:38] <SilentDis> !bot | chinoke
[06:38] <ubotu> chinoke: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[06:38] <chinoke> :s
[06:38] <chinoke> nice bot
[06:38] <doctormo> ubuntu: you'll also have to find out what resolutions are supported by your graphics card
[06:38] <SilentDis> !thanks | chinoke
[06:38] <ubotu> chinoke: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[06:39] <breeder18> anybody know why I get this error when configuring Xorg in terminal? xserver-xorg postinst warning: not updating /etc/X11/X; file has been
[06:39] <breeder18>    customized
[06:39] <breeder18> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[06:39] <breeder18>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070114004153
[06:39] <ubuntu> doctormo: where at?
[06:39] <rhaebuster> I just installed ubuntu edgy eft on my laptop, got my bcm4318 wireless working with networkmanager, then installed the updates. Now every application I open (even opening home and trash) takes 15-20 seconds. Any ideas?
[06:39] <stepanstas> silentdis:do they use linux too?
[06:39] <drmemory> ok doctormo: i installled alsa-oss.  do you know how to get RealPlayer to use it?  Or recommend a different player?
[06:39] <SilentDis> stepanstas, 2 of 'em do now ;)
[06:39] <ubuntu> doctormo: it worked in windows.
[06:39] <doctormo> drmemory: yes, use `aoss RealPlayer`
[06:40] <Falstius> rhaebuster: did you use top or gnome-system-monitor to see if something is using up all of your processor or memory?
[06:40] <seamus7> What's the terminal command to list all devices?
[06:40] <doctormo> ubuntu: can you email me your x11 error log? /var/log/X11.log.0
[06:40] <alex-weej> any idea why dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is detecting my card as "Generic Video Card", my monitor as "Generic Monitor" and my AltGr key doesn't do anything (i.e. i can't type accents anymore)
[06:40] <Falstius> seamus7: lshw
[06:40] <doctormo> seamus7: all what devices? usb lsusb, pci lspci
[06:40] <SilentDis> seamus7, you can try lspci, that'll get you a lot of info... what, in particular, are you looking for?
[06:41] <seamus7> pci devices
[06:41] <seamus7> SilentDis: yeah lspci i think is what i'm looking for
[06:41] <SilentDis> seamus7, :)
[06:41] <stepanstas> silentdis:yea, im tired of windows, to many crashes
[06:41] <SilentDis> stepanstas, welcome to a real OS then :)
[06:42] <SilentDis> stepanstas, i made the switch about 6 months ago, and haven't looked back.
[06:42] <stepanstas> silentdis:yea, just a few more things to perfect (mainly more programs, but for internet and office work, top knotch
[06:42] <ubuntu> doctormo: i will send you the Xorg.O.log
[06:42] <pollywog> stepanstas: do you play any Windows games?
[06:42] <stepanstas> pollywog:not on linux
[06:42] <breeder18> I miss gaming :( but at least I haven't crashed once
[06:42] <SilentDis> stepanstas, yep, and you can get most games running with stuff like wine/cedega/crossover
[06:43] <SilentDis> breeder18, what game?
[06:43] <stepanstas> silentdis:is wine the best?
[06:43] <breeder18> battlefield 2142
[06:43] <SilentDis> breeder18, let me check cedega...
[06:43] <seamus7> when I used 'lspci' I get: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies .............  is 01:00.0 the BusId????
[06:43] <pollywog> One of the old games I play would run on Cedega until the version where they got rid of Point2Play, no more after that
[06:43] <breeder18> ok cool
[06:44] <SilentDis> breeder18, not in the list... yet.  check their website:  http://www.transgaming.com/
[06:44] <breeder18> thanks silent
[06:44] <Tiger_ar> Sorry... I've a AMD64 (Athlon X2 3800+) BUT using the versions for AMD64 of Ubuntu/Kubuntu ...my system freeze!!!
[06:44] <ubuntu> doctormo: i sent the log file to you
[06:44] <SilentDis> stepanstas, wine is the 'basic' stuff.  lotsa games that support opengl directly work without issue just using wine.  other games need a DirectX wrapper, such as provided by cedega/crossover
[06:44] <drmemory> jockpot! doctormo:  mucho thanks
[06:45] <Tiger_ar> I've tried options as VGA=771 noacpi etc.... but nothing change
[06:45] <Falstius> seamus7: you might read man lspci for more details on what the output means.
[06:45] <breeder18> I was always under the impression you had to ditch games for linux
[06:45] <seamus7> What does a BusId look like? I'm trying to figure out the BusID for my video card pci device.
[06:45] <stepanstas> silentdis:gotta try them
[06:45] <breeder18> its like getting a hot wife you can have sex with lol
[06:45] <seamus7> Falstius: ok thx
[06:45] <drmemory> now to brave putting Beryl on my desktop machine when I get home tonight
[06:45] <SilentDis> stepanstas, I can confirm that WoW and Starcraft run directly with Wine.  there are native linux clients for Doom3, UT2k4.  Cedega lets you play all the GTA games, etc.
[06:45] <pollywog> breeder18: some Windows games will run on WINE or Cedega and some won't
[06:45] <Tiger_ar> Can ANYBODY help me ?
[06:46] <pollywog> Tiger_ar: just ask your question
[06:47] <SilentDis> stepanstas, breeder18, trust me:  if a game is even semi-popular, there's a 'push' going on to see if it'll work under Linux.  ;)
[06:47] <Tiger_ar> pollywog, How can I use the LIVE CD for AMD64 in my AMD64 X2 without freezing ?
[06:47] <DesertEagle> hello all, is there any way to eliminate a specific dead key?
[06:47] <pollywog> Tiger_ar: I had the same problem even with the 32 bit Live, I think more RAM is the answer
[06:48] <Hoxxin> isnt there a monthly fee for using Cedega?
[06:48] <Tiger_ar> pollywog, after load daemons and see the blue screen of Kubuntu..... freaze!\
[06:48] <DesertEagle> i want to use the tilde for a drop-down terminal emulator, but also need the '+ vowel combo
[06:48] <pollywog> Hoxxin: 5 dollars per month for the prepackaged version
[06:48] <impulse29> does the 6.10 version fix the problem of the kernel panic on powermac g5's?
[06:48] <Hoxxin> pollywog: ok
[06:48] <SilentDis> Hoxxin, yes, $5.  or you can use the SVNs and compile your own for free.
[06:48] <Tiger_ar> pollywog, I've 1Gb of RAM
[06:48] <pollywog> Tiger_ar: same here with Live
[06:49] <theflyingfool> silentdis: with compialing your own cedega, do you lose anything that you get for the 5$ a month
[06:49] <pollywog> I don't know how some people can use LIVE cd's I have never seen one run at a satisfactory speed
[06:49] <stepanstas> Silentdis: more and more people are switching
[06:49] <doctormo> ubuntu: according to your logs, your card has errors loading the ati drivers and it tries to detect the cards supported modes and it fails
[06:49] <SilentDis> theflyingfool, only the ability to 'vote' on which games they'll work on next.
[06:49] <stepanstas> silentdis:ms thought vista would help them, its not
[06:49] <Schminux> Good Evening, all!
[06:50] <stepanstas> silentdis:anyway,ill talk to you later
[06:50] <Tiger_ar> pollywog, 1Gb of RAM is not enought ??
[06:50] <pollywog> yeah you don't get all the dll's
[06:50] <SilentDis> stepanstas, that still remains to be seen.  it is bug #1 after all ;)
[06:50] <ubuntu> doctormo: do i need to use the ati drivers then?
[06:50] <SilentDis> g'night stepanstas
[06:50] <breeder18> anyone know why xorg is crashing when I am filling in the info about my resolutions and stuff?
[06:50] <doctormo> ubuntu: er, your not at thre moment?
[06:50] <pollywog> Tiger_ar:  I am not sure because I have had similar problems even with the 32 bit one
[06:50] <seamus7> How can I figure out the BusId of my video card to use in my Xorg.conf file?
[06:50] <Tiger_ar> So.... no solution ?
[06:51] <pollywog> Tiger_ar you could try the forums
[06:51] <ubuntu> doctormo: not the official ones from the ati website just the ones ubuntu preloads
[06:51] <Tiger_ar> pollywog, I have NO problems with 32-bits
[06:51] <doctormo> ubuntu: then yes, probably.
[06:51] <SilentDis> seamus7, usually, default is fine, unless you've got a pci (not pci-e) vid card, and it's in a different slot than the first pci slot
[06:51] <jisatsu_> if I run a program from the terminal, how do I run it such that it doesn't exit when I close the terminal?
[06:51] <Tiger_ar> pollywog, ok... thanxs
[06:51] <nrdb> Hi, I have just installed phpPgAdmin + lighttpd + php4 + php4-cgi,  when I try to access the phpPgAdmin site I get an error message saying I need to recompile php '--with-pgsql' for it to work, what do I need to do to fix this ?
[06:51] <pollywog> jisatsu_: screen
[06:51] <Schminux> seamus7: will "lspci" give you that assuming it's a pci bus card??
[06:52] <pollywog> jisatsu_: download the screen utility
[06:52] <ubuntu> doctormo: okay then i will try that
[06:52] <jisatsu_> pollywog: ok :) how do I use it?
[06:52] <pollywog> the command screen
[06:52] <DesertEagle> how do i revive a specific dead key?
[06:52] <pollywog> then hit return
[06:52] <seamus7> Schminux: lspci gives me 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies ........
[06:52] <SilentDis> ok, it's time for bed for me.  g'night all :)
[06:53] <adub_> what is a good screen shot program for linux
[06:53] <adub_> i mean gnome
[06:53] <DesertEagle> compiz or beryl? :P
[06:53] <Tiger_ar> I thought maybe someone could help me
[06:53] <pollywog> to leave it running in the background  hit ctrl-a and hold down the ctrl and hit D
[06:53] <adub_> i see ksnapshot but that is kde is there anything other than that
[06:53] <SilentDis> DesertEagle, beryl FTW!  lol
[06:53] <Tiger_ar> We are more people that in #ubuntu-es
[06:53] <DesertEagle> i think i read somewhere that beryl -> ATI compiz -> nVidia is that true/
[06:53] <pollywog> when you want to come back to it (resume) the command is 'screen -r'
[06:53] <chinoke> well i found one (http://www.freeantennas.com/PPPoE-Server-HOWTO.html)
[06:53] <pollywog> as the same user that started it
[06:54] <SilentDis> adub_, ubuntu has one built in.  just hit the print screen key :)
[06:54] <pollywog> man screen
[06:54] <nrdb> I also have php4-pgsql installed.
[06:54] <pollywog> the nohup command can also be used
[06:54] <seamus7> Schminux: the BusId in my xorg file is "PCI:1:0:0"  is that equivalent to 01:00.0?
[06:55] <Tiger_ar> ANYBODY can tell me HOW select the kernel using the LIVE CD ??
[06:55] <pollywog> but you cannot return to the command console when using nohup
[06:55] <DesertEagle> soooo, is there any way to eliminate a specific dead key? :D
[06:55] <DesertEagle> like, unmap it from the dead?
[06:55] <pollywog> Tiger_ar IIRC F6 gives you options
[06:56] <Tiger_ar> pollywog, right! a command line... so what must I write down there ?
[06:56] <Madpilot> adub_, for basic screenshots, just hit the Print Screen key
[06:56] <Tiger_ar> pollywog, I'd like to peak another kernel
[06:56] <Sling> can anyone help me with beryl issues, the irc beryl channel is lame.  i pretyt much have a problem where its installed and running but i can't like do anything with it
[06:56] <pollywog> Tiger_ar when the CD starts to play it gives you a chance to select an option, just touch F6
[06:57] <DesertEagle> beryl is fun :D
[06:57] <Dues> i have a question
[06:57] <Tiger_ar> pollywog, yes yes... and then ?
[06:57] <adub_> madpilot how can i save teh images that i print screen
[06:57] <Dues> i'm installing a previous version and
[06:57] <pollywog> then just choose one of the options from the menu
[06:57] <Madpilot> adub_, hit Print Screen, there should be a popup that asks you where to save the image
[06:57] <Dues> when i'm done with the CD part, it loads up the stuff and it says "Preparing for Installation" and i'm stuck there, how do i fix it?
[06:57] <Tiger_ar> pollywog, its a command line! not a menu
[06:58] <breeder18> can anyone tell me why I am continually getting this error when trying to configure Xorg ?   xserver-xorg postinst warning: not updating /etc/X11/X; file has been
[06:58] <breeder18>    customized
[06:58] <breeder18> xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[06:58] <breeder18>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20070114010120
[06:58] <Dues> and i can boot into other "screens" too like ctrl+alt+f2
[06:58] <rhaebuster> I just installed ubuntu edgy eft on my laptop, got my bcm4318 wireless working with networkmanager, then installed the updates. Now every application I open (even opening home and trash) takes 15-20 seconds. Any ideas?
[06:58] <pollywog> Tiger_ar: I think you have a different CD than what I used
[06:58] <ubnoob> i booted from the livecd of ubuntu, how do i get admin rights?
[06:58] <erikgz> how does one stop dhcp from overwriting resolv.conf periodically
[06:58] <erikgz> ?
[06:59] <Tiger_ar> pollywog, I ve both CD LIVE and ALTERNATE
[06:59] <Tiger_ar> both 4 AMD64
[06:59] <nrdb> rhaebuster: have you checked the cpu load, i.e. with top
[06:59] <rhaebuster> erikgz: chmod 555 resolv.conf
[06:59] <rhaebuster> nrdb: yes
[06:59] <pollywog> oic, I used the Alternate to install Ubuntu because the other CD was too slow
[06:59] <pollywog> it just locked up
[07:00] <DesertEagle> what
[07:00] <rhaebuster> Once the applications boot they run fine
[07:00] <ubnoob> how do i get admin rights in live CD boot?
[07:00] <DesertEagle> *what's the blurriness in beryl supposed to look like?
[07:00] <erikgz> rhaebuster: and dhclient is running as superuser?
[07:00] <nrdb> ubnoob: use 'sudo <comman>'
[07:00] <Tiger_ar> ok.... no help
[07:01] <Tiger_ar> ... I retired
[07:01] <erikgz> rhaebuster: and... i make it executable as well ;) ?
[07:01] <ubnoob> what is <comman>?
[07:01] <rhaebuster> erikgz: Ah I meant 444
 misspelled
[07:01] <DesertEagle> lol
[07:01] <wastrel> also, it means "whatever command you want"
[07:02] <amicrawler> huh  i lost my xorg drivers
[07:02] <amicrawler> how do i get them back t default again
[07:02] <wastrel> just like ls -l <file>   ,  <file> would mean "whatever file you want"
[07:02] <erikgz> rhaebuster: smart.  thanks
[07:02] <Jewfro-Macabbi> anyone know a good newsreader with nzb and ssl support?
[07:02] <ubnoob> i dont know what the admin username/pass is
[07:02] <erikgz> it was the obvious solution ;)
[07:02] <wastrel> ubnoob:  it's your user password
[07:02] <rhaebuster> erikgz: np
[07:02] <Schminux> seamus7:   I don't know if this wil help, but try   http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2005/05/msg00444.html
[07:03] <amicrawler> hello
[07:03] <ubnoob> its a first time boot, there was no password setup
[07:03] <theflyingfool> should i disable ipv6 if i cant track down a network problem
[07:03] <amicrawler> can any body help me?
[07:03] <ubnoob> im a ubuntu user right now
[07:03] <ubnoob> live CD
[07:03] <Jewfro-Macabbi> amicrawler, maybe, what's the problem?
[07:03] <amicrawler> i lost my video card
[07:03] <neo911> i have two comps connected behind myrouter connected to the internet.  in one comp i am running apache and i confirmed its okay since when i ype http://<IP_ADDRESS> it displayed the pages.  if the ip of this comp is <IP_ADDRESS> then i should be able t type http://<IP_ADDRESS> from a browser in the other comp and it will display the pages right? well it doesnt and can anyone help me what could be wrong? thx!
[07:04] <Jewfro-Macabbi> amicrawler, lost?
[07:04] <amicrawler> i was editing
[07:04] <wastrel> ubnoob:  on the livecd i don't think you need a password
[07:04] <amicrawler> the driver  and reset and now i can't get it back
[07:04] <wastrel> (not sure, never used the livecd myself...)
[07:05] <Jewfro-Macabbi> amicrawler, you were editing the driver? perhaps you were editing your xconfig file?
[07:05] <ubnoob> waster, i need to change a file to mount drives but it wont let me
[07:05] <impulse29> neo911, the other computer is on the same network right?
[07:05] <Dues> er
[07:05] <Dues> i just got buffer i/o errors
[07:05] <rhaebuster> Ubuntu is using 350MB out of 512MB of my ram, but that should be enough to open applications in under 20 seconds
[07:05] <amicrawler> it was the X11
[07:05] <Dues> :o
[07:05] <Jewfro-Macabbi> amicrawler, and did you make a backup first?
[07:05] <amicrawler> yep
[07:05] <neo911> impulse29, yes
[07:06] <amicrawler> in X11.config  file or some thing
[07:06] <Jewfro-Macabbi> amicrawler, then replace it with the backup
[07:06] <amicrawler> the reson i was editing was to get my fps up
[07:06] <Instabin> i have xorg.conf not X11.config
[07:06] <ubnoob> can i mount drives in live CD mode?
[07:07] <h3xis> ubnoob, yes
[07:07] <amicrawler> how do i do that
[07:07] <amicrawler> do i remove the X11 config
[07:08] <Pirate-King> amarok doesn't play mp3's?
[07:08] <ubnoob> h3xis, how, it wont let me change pmount.allow
[07:08] <Jewfro-Macabbi> amicrawler, use the cp command
[07:08] <h3xis> ubnoob, do it through the terminal
[07:08] <h3xis> ubnoob, what are you trying to mount
[07:09] <ubnoob> hd
[07:09] <amicrawler> i did a cp/ /etc/X11/xorg.cong /etcX11/xorg.conf_backup
[07:09] <h3xis> ubnoob, where is it located
[07:09] <ubnoob> e1
[07:09] <juano> Pirate-King: you probably need mp3 support
[07:09] <aMoRPHeouS> I'm getting errors when I do 'make menu config'. I need to patch my kernel with network drivers
[07:09] <h3xis> ubnoob, what is e1?
[07:09] <Dave_Ubuntu> hi - is there any special requirements with setting up Remote Desktop ? i'm try to access a EDGY box from windows XP with RDC - Remote is turned on in system>prefs - but I get a username and pass request on the xp box - i assumed it would be my user name and pass for logging into ubuntu - but its not - any pointers
[07:09] <aMoRPHeouS> *menuconfig even
[07:09] <juano> Pirate-King: can you listen to mp3 in any other program?
[07:09] <Pirate-King> I try to install nothing happens
[07:09] <h3xis> aMoRPHeouS, it's make menuconfig
[07:09] <ubnoob> its drive e, partition 1
[07:09] <aMoRPHeouS> that's what I meant
[07:10] <aMoRPHeouS> sorry, tired
[07:10] <h3xis> aMoRPHeouS, do you have libncurses5-dev installed?
[07:10] <elyon> What is the command to reconfigure the x server again?
[07:10] <Jewfro-Macabbi> unbooob, "sudo gedit /etc/pmount.allow"
[07:10] <aMoRPHeouS> I think so
[07:10] <ubnoob> Jewfro-Macabbi, wont let me save it
[07:10] <aMoRPHeouS> I just installed the gcc libraries
[07:10] <h3xis> elyon, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:10] <amicrawler> bye
[07:10] <elyon> h3xis: Thank you.
[07:10] <h3xis> aMoRPHeouS, check and see if you have it
[07:10] <aMoRPHeouS> basic-essential
[07:10] <Dave_Ubuntu> hi - is there any special requirements with setting up Remote Desktop ? i'm try to access a EDGY box from windows XP with RDC - Remote is turned on in system>prefs - but I get a username and pass request on the xp box - i assumed it would be my user name and pass for logging into ubuntu - but its not - any pointers
[07:10] <Pirate-King> only have that one and ggxine
[07:10] <Jewfro-Macabbi> amicrawler, dude, you just replaced your backup
[07:11] <ubnoob> why cant I edit /etc/pmount.allow??
[07:11] <Jewfro-Macabbi> ubnoob, you opended this from command line sudo?
[07:11] <aMoRPHeouS> I'd have to boot back into Ubuntu
[07:11] <ubnoob> yes
[07:11] <aMoRPHeouS> and I've had enough for today
[07:11] <juano> Pirate-King: go to synaptic and install xmms with mp3 support, i believe you need libmp3g
[07:11] <juano> Pirate-King: brb
[07:11] <aMoRPHeouS> 12 hours just trying to get network drivers installed :/
[07:11] <h3xis> aMoRPHeouS, well, i cant imagine why it wouldnt work other than not having libncurses5-dev installed
[07:11] <Pirate-King> ok
[07:12] <neo911> i have two comps connected behind myrouter connected to the internet.  in one comp i am running apache and i confirmed its okay since when i ype http://<IP_ADDRESS> it displayed the pages.  if the ip of this comp is <IP_ADDRESS> then i should be able t type http://<IP_ADDRESS> from a browser in the other comp and it will display the pages right? well it doesnt and can anyone help me what could be wrong? thx!
[07:12] <aMoRPHeouS> I'll have a look
[07:12] <breeder18> when I use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I go thru all the questions and it just goes back to terminal and gives me some error, any ideas?
[07:12] <alli24> hey guys, i need help with something. I just installed ubuntu and I am running Xchat.  I was wondering if there was any way to change the port of the irc server besides typing /server irc.server.net:6667? thats not working.. any help is appreciated! :)
[07:12] <Jewfro-Macabbi> ubnoon, close it and try it again
[07:13] <Dave_Ubuntu> hi - is there any special requirements with setting up Remote Desktop ? i'm try to access a EDGY box from windows XP with RDC - Remote is turned on in system>prefs - but I get a username and pass request on the xp box - i assumed it would be my user name and pass for logging into ubuntu - but its not - any pointers
[07:13] <ubnoob> gksude or sudo?
[07:13] <ubnoob> gksudo*
[07:13] <xtknight> apparently the x264 decoder isn't multithreaded.  even SVN is not
[07:13] <Jewfro-Macabbi> ubnoon, just sudo
[07:13] <xtknight> any multithreaded linux h.264 decoder?
[07:13] <koregaonpark> Hey. I need some advice. I just upgraded to Edgy from Dapper and my computer is taking about 3 minutes to start up each time!!!!
[07:14] <ubnoob> if just sudo nothing happens
[07:14] <h3xis> koregaonpark, run it without splash and see if youre getting any errors.
[07:14] <Dave_Ubuntu> try a gefrag of the drive koregaonpark
[07:14] <Dave_Ubuntu> defrag*
[07:14] <h3xis> Dave_Ubuntu, you cant defrag ext3
[07:14] <Jewfro-Macabbi> ubnoob, "sudo gedit /etc/pmount.allow"
[07:14] <koregaonpark> Dave_Ubuntu this is a brand new drive
[07:14] <juano> anyone know why my start up script isnt loading?
[07:14] <Schminux> Does anyone know of a good - easy for noobs - HowTo on setting up force Feedback joystick in drake??
[07:14] <juano> i have a sh with +x permissions in /etc/init,d
[07:14] <koregaonpark> h3xis I don't see the splash screen anyway!
[07:15] <juano> when i logout then login it wont run
[07:15] <Dave_Ubuntu> Konnektion, in that case i'm fresh outta ideas
[07:15] <koregaonpark> h3xis, just a flashing text cursor.
[07:15] <Konnektion> lol
[07:15] <Konnektion> wrong person?
[07:15] <h3xis> koregaonpark, then something's borked
[07:15] <CyberCod> anyone have any tips for troubleshooting ati proprietary drivers
[07:15] <h3xis> CyberCod, what's wrong
[07:15] <Dave_Ubuntu> sorry Konnektion
[07:15] <Konnektion> np
[07:15] <koregaonpark> h3xis, no, everything's fine. It's just the start-up time is lengthy.
[07:15] <Dave_Ubuntu> hi - is there any special requirements with setting up Remote Desktop ? i'm try to access a EDGY box from windows XP with RDC - Remote is turned on in system>prefs - but I get a username and pass request on the xp box - i assumed it would be my user name and pass for logging into ubuntu - but its not - any pointers
[07:15] <koregaonpark> h3xis, how do I turn off the splash screen?
[07:16] <CyberCod> i've got it installed, but now my gamma is very high and I cannot get tv-out to work
[07:16] <QuackAttack> I'm having the same problem as CyberCod
[07:16] <h3xis> koregaonpark, i think you remove "splash" from the grub configuration
[07:16] <wastrel> what's gamma
[07:16] <koregaonpark> Dave_Ubuntu, no. Just turn on  Remote Desktop from preferences.
[07:16] <h3xis> wastrel, the brightness i think
[07:16] <ubnoob> what do i do after i type sudo gedit /etc/pmount.allow?
[07:16] <CyberCod> my screen looks very light, washed out
[07:16] <koregaonpark> Dave_Ubuntu, I use my Edgy box with RD from my Mac using Chicken of the VNC.
[07:16] <h3xis> CyberCod, in the ati config can you not adjust the gamma?
[07:16] <Dave_Ubuntu> koregaonpark,  i did that - and rdp'ed to the IP - and now i get a user and pass request
[07:17] <CyberCod> what is the command for it... i forget
[07:17] <Jewfro-Macabbi> ubnoon, hit return, file opens, edit as needed, save file, close file. I'm not sure what exactly you are trying to do
[07:17] <QuackAttack> aticonfig
[07:17] <Schminux> Dave: I believe RDP is looking for password entered on the desktop you are trying to access.  Not the PW for box ou access it from
[07:17] <QuackAttack> I think
[07:17] <elyon> How do I increase the resolution for my desktop?  Right now, the max listed is 1024x768.  I've already edited my xorg.conf and added the desired resolutions and restarted X, but they're not available.
[07:17] <koregaonpark> Dave_Ubuntu, did you set the password in remote desktop prefs?
[07:17] <rhaebuster> elyon: I've noticed the same thing
[07:17] <Dave_Ubuntu> koregaonpark, how do i do that ? there isnt an option in prefs
[07:17] <koregaonpark> Dave_Ubuntu, I also access my Ubuntu box from my Windows partition using Tight VNc. Works like a charm.
[07:18] <aMoRPHeouS> h3xis: I have libncurses5 and libncursesw5 but libncurses5-dev
[07:18] <ubnoob> Jewfro-Macabbi, it opens only if I use gksudo, but i cant save to it, because I "dont have persmission"
[07:18] <aMoRPHeouS> *no libncurses5-dev
[07:18] <elyon> rhaebuster: You can't get it fixed either?
[07:18] <aMoRPHeouS> !packages
[07:18] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com - Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[07:18] <koregaonpark> Dave_Ubuntu, of course there is. System > Preferences > Remote Desktop. Then type in a password in the box at the bottom f the window.
[07:18] <rhaebuster> elyon: I haven't tried yet
[07:18] <Jewfro-Macabbi> ubnoob, ubuntu or kubuntu?
[07:19] <ubnoob> ubuntu
[07:19] <Dave_Ubuntu> koregaonpark,  ahh i see - lets try that
[07:19] <Schminux> seamus7how are you doing on bus id?
[07:19] <h3xis> aMoRPHeouS, you need libncurses5-dev
[07:19] <rhaebuster> elyon: It takes 20 seconds for me just to open the change resolution dialog
[07:19] <seamus7> how can I find my graphical fps using glxgears?
[07:19] <rhaebuster> elyon: No idea why =(
[07:19] <Dave_Ubuntu> koregaonpark, "computer cant connect" same error
[07:19] <neo911> my question is too hard or too noob?
[07:19] <koregaonpark> Dave_Ubuntu, Okay, cool. If it doesn't work, check out Tight VNC, it works well.
[07:19] <Jewfro-Macabbi> ubnoob, weird, try a different editor, whatever you have installed, change them command to "sudo kate... ", or "sudo emac..." whatever editor works for ya
[07:19] <aMoRPHeouS> h3xis: is it on the CD?
[07:19] <Dave_Ubuntu> koregaonpark, ok cheers
[07:19] <elyon> seamus7: In a console, type glxgears.  Then just watch the output in the console
[07:20] <h3xis> aMoRPHeouS, im not sure. install it through net?
[07:20] <weiyh> ..
[07:20] <koregaonpark> Dave_Ubuntu, :-)
[07:20] <h3xis> aMoRPHeouS, or transfer it through flash drive?
[07:20] <aMoRPHeouS> yeah, flash drive it is
[07:20] <seamus7> elyon: it never gives any output ???
[07:20] <aMoRPHeouS> I'm dong all this just so I can access the net from Ubuntu :P
[07:20] <Dave_Ubuntu> koregaonpark, just for reference - i now know the password - but what would the username be ?
[07:20] <elyon> seamus7: Hmm... I've never had this problem before, but it isn't showing it for me either.
[07:21] <seamus7> elyon: the gears pop up and they spin nicely quickly and smoothly ... but no fps info in the console??
[07:21] <seamus7> elyon: oh ok
[07:21] <koregaonpark> Dave_Ubuntu, Tight VNC doesn't ask for a username.
[07:21] <ubnoob> Jewfro-Macabbi, is it because im on a live CD boot?
[07:21] <Dave_Ubuntu> koregaonpark,  ah - ty
[07:21] <koregaonpark> It's the same with Chicken of the VNC on the Mac.
[07:21] <seamus7> Any know where I get fps info after I run glxgears?
[07:21] <Jewfro-Macabbi> ubnoob, lol, yeah!
[07:21] <elyon> seamus7: Hmm...last time I used glxgears, they spun VERY slowly, but it reported over 500fps... lol
[07:21] <ubnoob> Jewfro-Macabbi, so what do I do?
[07:21] <elyon> How do I increase the resolution for my desktop?  Right now, the max listed is 1024x768.  I've already edited my xorg.conf and added the desired resolutions and restarted X, but they're not available.
[07:21] <rhaebuster> It's not a traditional fps measurement
[07:22] <Jewfro-Macabbi> ubnoob, what are you trying to do?
[07:22] <h3xis> seamus7, glxgears -v i think
[07:22] <ubnoob> mount drive
[07:22] <computrius> not nessessarily a linux/ubuntu question, well, possibly.. What is the best way to take two dates, and find the number of days between them? Is there a linux api function for this?
[07:22] <aMoRPHeouS> !synaptic libncurses5-dev
[07:22] <ubotu> synaptic: Graphical package manager. In component main, is optional. Version 0.57.11ubuntu12 (edgy), package size 1032 kB, installed size 5420 kB
[07:22] <koregaonpark> Dave_Ubuntu, these commercial apps from Microsoft and Apple (Remote Desktop / ARD) aren't as good as their Open Source counterparts.
[07:22] <seamus7> h3xis: that's what I thought but it says unknown parameter in the console.
[07:22] <h3xis> seamus7, let me check
[07:23] <aMoRPHeouS> !adept libncurses5-dev
[07:23] <ubotu> adept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[07:23] <Dave_Ubuntu> koregaonpark, just installed tight VNC - update u in about 30 secs lol
[07:23] <koregaonpark> Does anyone know how I can turn off the splash screen? My start-up time hasa gone from 20 seconnds to 180 seconds after I upgraded to Edgy.
[07:23] <koregaonpark> Dave_Ubuntu, okay cool.
[07:23] <h3xis> koregaonpark, you remove "splash" from the grub config
[07:23] <ubnoob> do I need to install Ubuntu to HD before I can get admin rights?
[07:24] <h3xis> seamus7, glxgears printfps :)
[07:24] <koregaonpark> Okay, h3xis, thanks. I'll just go look for the grub file.
[07:24] <seamus7> h3xis: great thx
[07:24] <h3xis> seamus7, er glxgears -printfps
[07:24] <Dave_Ubuntu> koregaonpark, if you see this - i'm in! ty!
[07:24] <h3xis> koregaonpark, sudo gedit /boot/grub.menu.lst
[07:24] <aMoRPHeouS> h3xis: do I need any other packages in order to patch my kernel?
[07:24] <Jewfro-Macabbi> ubnoob, I'm googling it
[07:24] <koregaonpark> Dave_Ubuntu, I see it!
[07:24] <koregaonpark> Dave_Ubuntu, good to hear. See you around. :-)
[07:24] <elyon> seamus7: Just curious... what is your fps?
[07:25] <koregaonpark> Thanks, h3xis!
[07:25] <ubnoob> thanks
[07:25] <h3xis> aMoRPHeouS, i do not think so. i've never patched a kernel before. i just rebuilt them
[07:25] <aMoRPHeouS> ok
[07:25] <arti> Hello all, I just installed ubuntu today - and by the way, Im loving it so far! - and the only problem Im having is of course my wireless card ... is there anyway to fix the wireless card without having to plug in an ethernet cord?  My router is in my garage and its not in a convenient place right now...
[07:25] <aMoRPHeouS> thanks :)
[07:25] <h3xis> elyon, i get around 8500 fps
[07:25] <seamus7> elyon: it says 248.984 fps
[07:25] <elyon> h3xis: Is that with the gears actually showing ON screen? ;)
[07:25] <seamus7> elyon: that seems poor
[07:25] <h3xis> elyon, yes
[07:25] <Jewfro-Macabbi> ubnoob, http://jclark.org/weblog/2005/05/24/ubuntumount/
[07:25] <koregaonpark> Uhh.... h3xis, my grub file is EMPTY!
[07:25] <elyon> h3xis: Ah..  That's what I get when the gears are minimized ;)
[07:26] <h3xis> elyon, it's 9000 minimized
[07:26] <elyon> seamus7: I'm averaging about 250... and I guess that's good for my card
[07:26] <elyon> How do I increase the resolution for my desktop?  Right now, the max listed is 1024x768.  I've already edited my xorg.conf and added the desired resolutions and restarted X, but they're not available.
[07:26] <h3xis> koregaonpark, did you type it in right?
[07:26] <Schminux> arti: after I installed MadWIFI the only issue that was a problem wasthat I needed to trun on the WEP capabilityof my card...
[07:26] <koregaonpark> Copy-pasted.
[07:26] <h3xis> koregaonpark, sudo /boot/grub/menu.list?
[07:26] <koregaonpark> h3xis, I'll try again.
[07:26] <h3xis> koregaonpark, er sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:26] <chinoke> exit
[07:26] <Sabin> I am trying to set up a wmp54g Linksys wireless card.  I have seen a few reports that this card works out of the box with 6.06.  I have tried to get the card working on 6.10 with very bad results.  Just wondering if and why the rt61 drivers are broken in 6.10.
[07:26] <ubnoob> thanks I'll try it
[07:27] <Jewfro-Macabbi> ubnoob, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/64602-accessing-my-hard-drive-view-files-while-running-live-cd.html
[07:27] <koregaonpark> h3xis, it loaded! Editing now.
[07:27] <seamus7> elyon: i'm using an ati radeon x1300 which allows me to play most games and I can get most all of the 3d screen savers in ubuntu ... so i'm surprised a bit that my fps isn't higher but I know ATI cards aren't supported well in Ubuntu
[07:27] <Schminux> arti: if you can see the card in lspci and it shows no packets, that may be your problem too...
[07:27] <Jewfro-Macabbi> ubnoob, maybe one of those will help
[07:27] <Crankymonky> What are some good linux alternatives to apps such as Garageband or HomeStudio, not so interested in intense sound editing but rather mixing, maybe a bit of changing the sound
[07:27] <h3xis> seamus7, i have that same card.
[07:27] <elyon> seamus7: Yeah, I have a Radeon 9600
[07:27] <h3xis> seamus7, you should be getting higher
[07:28] <seamus7> h3xis: oh yeah! I have fglrx
[07:28] <h3xis> seamus7, so do i
[07:28] <seamus7> h3xis: what are you using
[07:28] <koregaonpark> h3xis, I can't find the splash line. What does it look like?
[07:28] <seamus7> h3xis: are you using the newest driver from ATI ... i'm using the repository one
[07:28] <h3xis> koregaonpark, look where the kernel parameters are. it should just say "splash" and you remove it
[07:28] <h3xis> seamus7, well, i'm using whatever is in debian etch's repo
[07:28] <Amadeo> Any way I can get more functionality out of my mouse? Logitech MX518
[07:29] <koregaonpark> "root=UUID=3a7d134a-75ef-4433-a3fa-448f04a25a6d ro quiet splash" (h3xis, should I remove this line?)
[07:29] <Schminux> arti:   for my card I used    sudo iwpriv ath0 authmode 2       it is a TEW-433PI   pci card
[07:29] <h3xis> koregaonpark, just remove the word "splash"
[07:29] <koregaonpark> h3xis, okay cool.
[07:30] <seamus7> h3xis: oh ... i'm on Edgy .. and using fglrx 8.28.8 ... which is the latest stable I guess ... what does it say when you do fglrxinfo in the OpenGl Version String parameter?
[07:30] <h3xis> seamus7, i'm not in debian atm or id check
[07:30] <koregaonpark> h3xis, I removed it. Restarting. Catch you in a minute. Thanks for the help!
[07:30] <seamus7> h3xis: oh ok
[07:30] <arti> schminux, I did a lspci and found I have a Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless Lan Controller (rev 02)
[07:30] <arti> if that means anything
[07:30] <seamus7> h3xis: would you be willing to look at my xorg.conf ?
[07:31] <Dave-Ubuntu> koregaonpark: working a charm - bit of reconfig on the screen quality and sorted (BTW TIGHT VNC dont like beryl!)
[07:31] <h3xis> seamus7, i'm not sure what to look for XD
[07:31] <seamus7> h3xis: me neither :(
[07:31] <h3xis> seamus7, i havent touched my xorg.conf. debian configured it for me
[07:31] <seamus7> h3xis: what's the amount of video memory on your x1300>?
[07:32] <h3xis> seamus7, it's a mystery. debian says 64mb. slackware said 512mb and windows says 512mb
[07:32] <Schminux>  arti: let me look to see if your card is Atheros chipset same as mine...
[07:32] <seamus7> h3xis: do you know the card's official reported memory that you got with the computer or when you bought it?
[07:32] <h3xis> koregaonpark, work?
[07:33] <koregaonpark> h3xis, yes!!
[07:33] <arti> scminux: k - any sort of help would be much appreciated =]
[07:33] <seamus7> h3xis: mine is supposed to be 128 but I also get mixed readings ... mostly 64
[07:33] <koregaonpark> h3xis, my start-up time has dropped to 10-15 seconds!
[07:33] <h3xis> seamus7, it said 64mb, but im able to run FEAR and half life 2 on the highest settings at 1024x768 with no lag
[07:33] <Dave-Ubuntu> koregaonpark: working a charm - bit of reconfig on the screen quality and sorted (BTW TIGHT VNC dont like beryl!)
[07:33] <elyon> One more time in case there are new people here:
[07:33] <koregaonpark> h3xis, what do you think the splash screen was doing?
[07:33] <elyon> How do I increase the resolution for my desktop?  Right now, the max listed is 1024x768.  I've already edited my xorg.conf and added the desired resolutions and restarted X, but they're not available.
[07:33] <seamus7> h3xis: wow
[07:33] <h3xis> koregaonpark, who knows :P
[07:34] <koregaonpark> Dave_Ubuntu, ah okay, I've never used Beryl. Don't have a good enough graphic card.
[07:34] <koregaonpark> h3xis, as long as it's fixed. :-)
[07:34] <h3xis> koregaonpark, yep
[07:34] <nomasteryoda> koregaonpark, if you have an intel based card, beryl work sweet... slow, but cool to show it will work
[07:34] <h3xis> seamus7, it's the mobility just so you know
[07:34] <koregaonpark> Dave_Ubuntu, glad I was able to help. I'm total n00b when it comes to Linux stuff.
[07:34] <Dues> how do i fixc "Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open 13 permission denied ?
[07:35] <nomasteryoda> i have one with only 8mb ram onboard and it works
[07:35] <koregaonpark> nomasteryoda, I have an Intel card.
[07:35] <koregaonpark> nomasteryoda, how do I install Beryl?
[07:35] <h3xis> Dues, close any other instances of apt or synaptic you may have open
[07:35] <seamus7> h3xis: yeah mine's the ati radeon mobile x1300 ... I wonder if being on 'etch' makes a difference?
[07:35] <nomasteryoda> well, i855 based one is what is in this dell
[07:35] <h3xis> seamus7, no idea :P
[07:35] <Dues> i don't even have X open
[07:35] <nomasteryoda> !beryl
[07:35] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:35] <h3xis> seamus7, are you using ati's opengl?
[07:35] <Dave-Ubuntu> koregaonpark: not as much as a noob as me - first 36 hours (straight lol) so far installed two hard drives - shared it on the network and now this - so thank you!
[07:35] <Dues> i'm in a fullscreen terminal
[07:35] <h3xis> Dues, run 'top' and check to see if you see apt or aptitude running
[07:36] <Schminux> arti:   looks like you use diff chipset... see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsBroadcom
[07:36] <arrenlex> Dues: or dpkg. Especially dpkg.
[07:36] <seamus7> h3xis: I don't know .... I know I'm using fglrx ... is ati's opengl separate and in the repositories?
[07:36] <h3xis> Dues, the only time ive seen that error is when i have another instance of it running
[07:36] <koregaonpark> Dave-Ubuntu, wow you're a fast learner. It took me a few days to get my home folder shared on the network. SMB works like a charm.
[07:36] <nomasteryoda> Dues, you can also run "ps ax |grep apt"
[07:36] <Dues> nope
[07:36] <h3xis> seamus7, not sure. let me check and see something
[07:36] <Dues> don't see it
[07:36] <h3xis> Dues, restart?
[07:36] <Dave-Ubuntu> koregaonpark:  Google is my friend :P
[07:36] <Dues> will do
[07:36] <nomasteryoda> just remove that lock file
[07:37] <h3xis> yesh ^
[07:37] <koregaonpark> Dave-Ubuntu, "The Google" is mine.
[07:37] <h3xis> seamus7, do you see the ati control panel thing in the gnome menu?
[07:37] <koregaonpark> nomasteryoda, how do I install Beryl?
[07:37] <nomasteryoda> or rename it ... mv ../lock ../lockold
[07:37] <d03boy> Need a little wifi troubleshooting help. I have ndiswrapper set up and it will not list any networks.
[07:37] <nomasteryoda> ubotu tell koregaonpark about beryl
[07:37] <seamus7> h3xis: no .... I can get a control panel using 'fireglcontrol'
[07:38] <h3xis> seamus7, good enough
[07:38] <Dave-Ubuntu> koregaonpark: i used automatix to install BERYL -
[07:38] <h3xis> seamus7, i'm not in linux atm but it should say which opengl renderer it's using
[07:38] <koregaonpark> Dave-Ubuntu, what exactly is automatix?
[07:38] <nomasteryoda> that is not "recommended" but works koregaonpark
[07:38] <h3xis> seamus7, hopefully it says the ati proprietary one
[07:38] <nomasteryoda> script to install stuff for you
[07:38] <koregaonpark> nomasteryoda, oh I see.
[07:38] <nomasteryoda> ya
[07:38] <arti> scminux, i use BCM4318 though ... if you look http://www.tux.org/~peterw/v2000/ it says that my card should work ... or am i wrong?
[07:38] <d03boy> BCM is a mess
[07:38] <Dave-Ubuntu> koregaonpark: google it - automatix2 is another installer type proggy
[07:38] <Sabin> I'm looking for a little info onthe rt61 chipset on my Linksys wmp54g wireless card.  I have heard reports of this chipset working out of the box in 6.06.  However I can't seem to get this card working in 6.10.  I have tried to use ndiswrapper but it hangs my system.
[07:39] <CyberCod> still having brightness/gamma problem after installing proprietary drivers on ati radeon 9250... got tv-out to work, and it looks good
[07:39] <h3xis> arti, it doesnt work out of the box, but it is easy to get working with a simple package
[07:39] <koregaonpark> Dave-Ubuntu, okay, I'll do that.
[07:39] <seamus7> h3xis: it says ATI Technologies version 2.0.6011 (8.28.8) ... so I guess I'm using the propietary one yeah .... hmmmm mystery
[07:39] <CyberCod> can anyone help?
[07:39] <nomasteryoda> koregaonpark, you want the aiglx with beryl
[07:39] <h3xis> seamus7, yeah man i dont know, that's weird
[07:39] <h3xis> seamus7, try minimizing stuff
[07:39] <nomasteryoda> on intel... http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX#How-to_install_Beryl_with_AIGLX_on_Edgy_Eft
[07:39] <koregaonpark> nomasteryoda, I'll keep that in mind.
[07:39] <nomasteryoda> k
[07:39] <arti> schminux, Oh nevermind ... theyre using a different wifi card =[
[07:39] <Dave-Ubuntu> koregaonpark: dont install the "dodgy" dvd decoders from it - it fouled my system up playing DVDS - but apart from that all the other options worked fine
[07:40] <nomasteryoda> good luck... and have fun
[07:40] <nomasteryoda> zzzzzzzzzz
[07:40] <arti> h3xis, can you point me in the direction on how to get it working?  as of right now I dont have a hard connection to the internet ... i only have the wireless one.
[07:40] <koregaonpark> Dave-Ubuntu, why didn't you install the recommended DVD decoders? Hang on, I'll get you a link.
[07:40] <seamus7> h3xis: I'm still at about 250.000 fps
[07:40] <Dues> let's see
[07:40] <h3xis> arti, wait...you have wireless working but not wired?
[07:40] <h3xis> seamus7, that is very odd
[07:41] <Dues> fixed it but there's an error when i tried to apt-get install irssi =p
[07:41] <koregaonpark> Dave-Ubuntu, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:41] <Dues> where do i find the sources file? lol
[07:41] <h3xis> seamus7, you should at least be running 1500 fps
[07:41] <Dues> or the one with the list of packages
[07:41] <arti> h3xis, no - im on dual boot.. im running windows as of now because of the internet connection.  im trying to get some help, this way i can go onto ubuntu and fix it.
[07:41] <seamus7> h3xis: yeah ... I don't need better graphics specifically ... but you know I gottat figure this out now that you have the same card ... I'm on a core 2 duo ... wonder if that might be a problem in some mysterious way?
[07:41] <Schminux> arti: if you go to system>administration>networking   do you show a wireless device??? mine is called Aath0   (Atheros chipset)...
[07:41] <h3xis> arti, i see. let me look
[07:41] <Amadeo> I'm trying to install an updated version of wine, but it's giving me a gpg key error...the winehq site says nothing about that
[07:41] <CyberCod> is anyone in here successfully using ati proprietary drivers?
[07:42] <h3xis> CyberCod, me
[07:42] <h3xis> CyberCod, but im in debian
[07:42] <Dave-Ubuntu> koregaonpark: cheers - I'll take a look see for future - i got it working again by installing a new player via synaptix - XMMS player - working fine again now
[07:42] <h3xis> CyberCod, and seamus7 is...sort of
[07:42] <arti> schminux, when i did, it showed i had one.  but when i tried to enable it off of 'lo' it wouldnt work.
[07:42] <CyberCod> did they give you any trouble when installing? i mean afterward?
[07:42] <h3xis> seamus7, im on just a core duo
[07:42] <koregaonpark> Dave-Ubuntu, cool. Have fun.
[07:42] <Schminux> ooops it's ath0
[07:42] <h3xis> CyberCod, no
[07:42] <CyberCod> grrrr
[07:42] <CyberCod> damna ti
[07:42] <CyberCod> ati
[07:43] <arti> scmminux, erm, when I was looking around, i found that mine was eth1?  when i went to like system > devices and clicked broadcom and hit advanced ...
[07:43] <seamus7> h3xis: hmmm ... but you're also using bleeding edge ubuntu right? that's 'etch' right? I wonder if the fglrx is updated for that?
[07:43] <Dave-Ubuntu> koregaonpark:  oh i am - i think lol - 28 hours straight and i'm nearing chill time -
[07:43] <Dave-Ubuntu> 38*
[07:43] <h3xis> seamus7, nah
[07:43] <h3xis> seamus7, i'm debian. it's diff than ubuntu
[07:43] <CyberCod> its no small wonder that ati is in the middle of the word damnATIon
[07:43] <seamus7> h3xis: oh right .... duh! ...
[07:44] <arrenlex> seamus7: etch = debian. edgy = ubuntu.
[07:44] <seamus7> h3xis: maybe that's it ... ubuntu forums has all sorts of entries about the problems with ati cards
[07:44] <Pie-rate> Please help me with my sound issue. Full details at: http://jon.pmtech.com/~jschall/soundproblem.html (i'm tired of "OMG plug the speak0rz in n00b" so I made a website detailing the problem)
[07:44] <Amadeo> Anyone know why I'm getting a gpg key error from wine.budgetdedicated.com ?
[07:44] <dxdt> Anyone notice that rhythmbox stops playing a song on the radio once it hits the end of the song??    Are other people experiencing this at all?
[07:44] <Schminux> ethx is your ehternet WIRED network card...
[07:44] <koregaonpark> DAve-Ubuntu, 28 hours straight? Sheesh! Even my 4-AM bedtime seems normal in comparison.
[07:45] <seamus7> arrenelx: hi .... I thought maybe etch was the upcoming name of the next release ... but that's fawn or something right?
[07:45] <CyberCod> the forums are full of threads on ati cards... as you say... unfortunately so few of them come to a successful close
[07:45] <koregaonpark> BRB
[07:45] <arti> jk then?
[07:45] <Dave-Ubuntu> koregaonpark:  its 6:45am here - must be coffee and bagels time surely! lol - anyhoo - ty again - much appreciated
[07:46] <h3xis> arti, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[07:46] <ubuntuNoob> can i install Display Drivers while in Live CD mode?
[07:46] <arrenlex> CyberCod: Mine did... when I abandoned fglrx and started using free drivers. :)
[07:46] <CyberCod> i don't think i can get tv-out with free drivers
[07:47] <arrenlex> CyberCod: Look into gatos
[07:47] <manny> my head phone jack doesnt work
[07:47] <Schminux> i show lo eth0 and ath0.... sounds like you have a "piece" missing...   enter ifconfig on console and look at results... do same for iwconfig
[07:47] <CyberCod> this is a computer for my in-laws... i won't be able to tell them to switch somethin in xorg.conf in order to change back and forth... they can barely work the vcr
[07:47] <h3xis> manny, why not?
[07:47] <arrenlex> Then why are you installing Linux for them?
[07:47] <manny> i have a L35
[07:47] <manny> toshiba laptop
[07:47] <arti> schminux & h3xis - thank you for your help.  im going to go try it, then ill be back if it fails >.<
[07:48] <manny> my external speakers work
[07:48] <h3xis> manny, do the speakers work?
[07:48] <manny> but when i plug in headphones ig et no sound
[07:48] <manny> yes they work
[07:48] <h3xis> arti, that *should* work
[07:48] <arti> ty
[07:48] <seamus7> In my xorg.conf file ... what's VideoOverlay and OpenGLOverlay ... the first is on for me and the second is off.
[07:48] <Pie-rate> CyberCod: ATI or nVidia?
[07:48] <CyberCod> arrenlex   because if i set it up for the things they do and then lock down the update manager,... i won't be over there every two weeks removing viruses and spyware
[07:48] <CyberCod> ATI radeon 9250
[07:48] <Schminux> let us know how u do, arti!
[07:48] <h3xis> manny, i fail to see how that's really a problem with linux in general. sounds like a hardware issue. did it work in windows and what about the livecd?
[07:48] <pyrohotdog> How can I set up my webcam to take a photo every time there is a failed attempt to login? Or, unlock the screensaver?
[07:48] <ubuntuNoob> How can I become a super-user while in Live CD mode???
[07:48] <manny> yea
[07:48] <arrenlex> CyberCod: ...good point.
[07:48] <manny> it works in windows
[07:49] <riotkittie> heh
[07:49] <Pie-rate> then get an nvidia card or don't bother with linux in my opinion =/
[07:49] <manny> on the forums others have the same problem
[07:49] <manny> something with alas or something about the sound card driver or something
[07:49] <h3xis> manny, what model?
[07:49] <manny> toshbia L35
[07:49] <CyberCod> i just have to get everything working before i give it back to them
[07:49] <h3xis> manny, let me dig around on google
[07:49] <manny> ok
[07:49] <ubuntuNoob> How can I become a super-user while in Live CD mode?
[07:49] <manny> thanks man
[07:49] <CyberCod> then i take out all the "dangerous" options like gparted and such
[07:50] <noodles12> is ntfs-3g pretty safe to use? i know it's only in beta but has anyone had a problem with its reliability?
[07:50] <h3xis> ubuntuNoob, sudo mkpasswd and set a super user pass then run su and log in
[07:50] <manny> when i used ntfs 3g my computer stopped reading usb so i had to reinstall
[07:51] <Jewfro-Macabbi> noodles12, nfts write program?
[07:51] <noodles12> manny: =/... that doesnt' sound promising...
[07:51] <nomasteryoda> ubuntuNoob, you can also just type sudo -s ... it should let you in with the blank password
[07:51] <manny> i know i wont touch that thing again lol
[07:51] <Spee_Der> manny: Using linux version ?
[07:51] <noodles12> Jewfro-Macabbi: yea. my backup hd is ntfs =/
[07:51] <manny> edgy at the time
[07:51] <manny> bleh
[07:51] <PORDO> what is a ! in bash?
[07:51] <manny> dapper at the time
[07:51] <Spee_Der> Ok...
[07:51] <manny> now im using edgy
[07:52] <heinous> hi!
[07:52] <tall__1> what is the default root password for a new install?
[07:52] <Spee_Der> manny: Open the sound master control.
[07:52] <manny> how do i do that?
[07:52] <pyrohotdog> Anybody know how to trigger actions when someone types the password wrong...?
[07:52] <Jewfro-Macabbi> noodles12, I haven't used that program specifically, but everyone I have used caused problems.
[07:52] <heinous> Any PPC veterans here?
[07:52] <Spee_Der> manny: Do you have in the task bar a icon for volume control ?
[07:52] <Amadeo> this stuff doesn't make sense to me
[07:53] <manny> ok ok
[07:53] <manny> i got it open
[07:53] <Jordan_U> heinous: Yep
[07:53] <Spee_Der> Ok...
[07:53] <noodles12> Jewfro-Macabbi: so the safest thing is to just reformat my back-up hd in fat32
[07:53] <manny> devices tab is open
[07:53] <zYe> What does this mean?------- "universe" mirror in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:53] <Spee_Der> manny: Edit preferences and see if the headphone volume control is turned on
[07:53] <arrenlex> !universe | zYe
[07:53] <ubotu> zYe: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[07:53] <heinous> Jordan_U: I'm having some trouble booting from install CDs on an Apple MDD Dual 1.25
[07:53] <ablyss> PORDO: it sometimes denotes a negative e.g., if [ ! true ]  is the same is if [ false ]
[07:53] <WarLord> !proxy
[07:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about proxy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:53] <manny> edit preferences?
[07:54] <manny> im in sound preferences
[07:54] <Jewfro-Macabbi> noodles12, well, not necessarily, I try to avoid that problem by writing to linux from windows.
[07:54] <houston> has anyone here got an intel 2915 wireless nic to work on their machine???  I am having a heck of a time
[07:54] <Jewfro-Macabbi> noodles12, in terms of duplicated/backup files
[07:54] <Jordan_U> heinous: What happens when you try to boot?
[07:54] <Spee_Der> manny: You need to be in volume control.
[07:54] <CyberCod> pyrohotdog  look on the web for using and adjusting gdmsetup... and what all files it entails
[07:54] <manny> how do i get into that?
[07:54] <Spee_Der> manny: This is where the settings are for speakers and such.
[07:54] <Jewfro-Macabbi> noodles12, I said that poorly, I just mount my win drive and drag the data over to linux.
[07:54] <houston> my wireless nic is working i believe, but its not connecting after following the majority of howtos for wpa
[07:54] <heinous> Jordan_U: What happens is that when I boot from CD by holding down C or by holding down alt and selecting the CD (which appears with tux on it), I get a bright blue screen which does nothing for up to an hour. Dare I say it, a BSOD??
[07:55] <noodles12> Jewfro-Macabbi: o0o0osh. with that fs-driver? i don't like how the file permissions aren't translated. What if i get a virus or i accidentally delete some boot files
[07:55] <ubuntuNoob> nomasteryoda, thanks it worked
[07:55] <manny> hrm
[07:55] <manny> in system
[07:55] <Jordan_U> heinous: Did you let disk utility verify the burn or did you check the md5?
[07:55] <houston> can someone help me out?
[07:55] <manny> preferences and sound
[07:55] <manny> a box opens up
[07:55] <Jewfro-Macabbi> noodles12, fs?
[07:56] <dxdt> houston,  I would say screw the howtos if possible and just install network manager.  I remember getting caught up with dumbstuff when doing the wpa_supplicant by hand.  Stuff like it taking the \n and adding it to my password and then bam password would fail.  Etc.  Have you seen network manager?
[07:56] <Jordan_U> !anybody | houston
[07:56] <ubotu> houston: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[07:56] <Jewfro-Macabbi> noodles12, fuse?
[07:56] <heinous> Jordan_U no
[07:56] <noodles12> http://fs-driver.org/ so you can mount ext3 in windows.
[07:56] <houston> dxdt I have network manager installed
[07:56] <Schminux> houston, have you tried emporarily changing your access point to an open system... once you confirm that open works (or not) you can focus in...
[07:56] <Spee_Der> manny: I have in my task bar an icon for volume control.
[07:56] <h3xis> houston, try this thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=156930
[07:56] <Schminux> temporarily
[07:56] <Jordan_U> heinous: Sorry, didn't see your earlier post
[07:56] <manny> yea
[07:56] <manny> i have one too
[07:56] <tall__1> anybody know what is the default root password for a new install?
[07:56] <heinous> Jordan_U: oh, ok.
[07:56] <h3xis> tall__1, there isnt one
[07:56] <dxdt> houston, not just the other network manager that comes preinstalled but the extra cool one, right?
[07:56] <manny> ok i got volume control open
[07:57] <Jewfro-Macabbi> noodles, is that that IEX something something named program? if so, don't do it, it will bork you linux....
[07:57] <tall__1> but I tried that
[07:57] <riotkittie> the  root  account is locked
[07:57] <tall__1> oh
[07:57] <Spee_Der> manny: When double click that iconit opens a volume control panel for alsa/sound blaster live.
[07:57] <h3xis> tall__1, just reopen it
[07:57] <theflyingfool> my internet connection doesnt work with anything except firefox, and firefox only worked when i disabled ipv6, i have it disabled sys wide and its still dead
[07:57] <riotkittie> use sudo
[07:57] <houston> dxdt i installed the extra cool one, but how do i get it to open?
[07:57] <noodles12> Jewfro-Macabbi: what do you do if you need to copy from linux to windows?
[07:57] <tall__1> I tried not entering a password
[07:57] <heinous> Jordan_U: do you think it could be the third party USB2 / Firewire cards I have added? Or perhaps the modified Radeon 9600?
[07:57] <Amadeo> W: GPG error: http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY<PHONE_NUMBER>7EE263
[07:58] <manny> yea
[07:58] <h3xis> tall__1, when you use sudo and it asks for a pass, it is your password
[07:58] <manny> well i dont see sound blaster
[07:58] <manny> i see alsa
[07:58] <Spee_Der> manny: That is where I had to edit preferences for adding the headphones and turn up the volume, otherwise the headphone would not work.
[07:58] <manny> and then realtek oss or osmething
[07:58] <pyrohotdog> CyberCod: Thanks. :)
[07:58] <houston> i think i am about 80% way getting this configured...but having a heck of a time
[07:58] <Pie-rate> I've spent probably 10 hours on this problem. I've exhausted every option i can think of. i'm going to get a windows key from CSUC tomorrow if i can't fix it by then.   If that tray icon is not there for some reason.  try pressing ALT+F2 and then nm-applet and see if it pops up.
[07:58] <Pie-rate> alsa is a piece of shit
[07:58] <houston> ahh i have used it
[07:58] <h3xis> Pie-rate, what's wrong?
[07:58] <houston> will try again
[07:58] <Jewfro-Macabbi> noodles12, I used that program exactly once, when my windows died, and I had to get my backup data of the linux drive, it "fragmented" my linux drive...
[07:58] <Spee_Der> manny: I have alsa and it works great, Works even better with sound blaster live surround sound.
[07:59] <riotkittie> alsa works fine for me :P
[07:59] <h3xis> alsa is god
[07:59] <Pie-rate> h3xis: http://jon.pmtech.com/~jschall/soundproblem.html
[07:59] <darweth> Does anyone know a simple way of enabling ogg theora in mplayer?
[07:59] <theflyingfool> where is a howto on disabling ipv6 with edgy, system wide, i think i did it wrong
[07:59] <Jordan_U> heinous: I would verify the disk to make sure it burned correctly and possibly try the alternate install CD.
[07:59] <noodles12> Jewfro-Macabbi: the program i just linked u too? fragmented your linux drive?
[07:59] <houston> dxdt should it give me a wireless choice when i click on it?
[07:59] <bartist> hi
[07:59] <heinous> Jordan_U: ok, thanks
[07:59] <manny> it still doesnt work
[07:59] <houston> right now it just says wired
[07:59] <manny> doesnt say anything about headphones
[07:59] <houston> and no other choices...
[07:59] <bartist> my sound only work when it wants, what can i do?
[08:00] <Jewfro-Macabbi> noodles12, it caused errors due to the ext2/ext3 issue.
[08:00] <Schminux> pie-rate... try swapping out sound card for a soundblaster card if you have one... pretty mch everyones drivers will see those cards
[08:00] <tall__1> so pretty much the only way to get "root" access is to use the sudo command?
[08:00] <Jordan_U> bartist: Do you use flash 7?
[08:00] <darweth> Ogg Theora videos play fine in Totem, but I get an ogg stream 0 is of an unknown type in MPlayer.  MPlayer is what I use for internet streaming.
[08:00] <dxdt> houston, yes, if you right click,  can you get connection info?  (Should at least have card details)
[08:00] <h3xis> Pie-rate, so is it an intel hda?
[08:00] <tall__1> it puts me in the sudo group and I can do any command with sudo?
[08:00] <Spee_Der> manny: When you right click on the task bar, is there an option to ADD TO PANEL ?
[08:00] <darweth> I am hoping it is just a simple codec install.
[08:00] <Sling> when i try to run startxgl.sh i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1530/ anyone help me?
[08:00] <manny> yea
[08:00] <bartist> Jordan_U not now
[08:00] <houston> dxdt sure but no wireless info
[08:01] <dxdt> tall__1, you can always sudo su  but meh  sudo is fun, different but fun.  You can also reset the password.
[08:01] <dxdt> houston, not even the option to click??
[08:01] <houston> nope
[08:01] <Pie-rate> h3xis: it clearly states on the website i have an nvidia ck804. it worked 3 days ago
[08:01] <noodles12> Jewfro-Macabbi: why can't windows just use ext3! lol
[08:01] <theflyingfool> does anyone know where i can find a good how to for disabiling ipv6 system wide with edgy
[08:01] <Pie-rate> schminux: 1. i don't have one, 2. i shouldn't have to, it worked 3 days ago and it works on knoppix.
[08:01] <Spee_Der> manny: Okay. Click on add to panel, the go down to system & hardware and add the volume control to the task bar.
[08:01] <bartist> but like everybody I've used flash
[08:02] <dxdt> houston, when you right click the icon, what are the menu choices that show up?  (Also are you clicking the right icon as I know there were two similar icons for me at one point--the default one and the new one I wanted which was confusing)
[08:02] <manny> ok
[08:02] <manny> added
[08:02] <tall__1> oh, use sudo to reset it?
[08:02] <Sling> when i try to run startxgl.sh i get this error http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1530/ anyone help me?
[08:02] <tall__1> hah...duh
[08:02] <houston> menu says:
[08:02] <Spee_Der> manny: Once you have added the volume control to task bar, double click on it.
[08:02] <houston> enable networking
[08:02] <houston> connection information, and about
[08:02] <seamus7> h3xis: you thee?
[08:02] <manny> ok
[08:02] <Jewfro-Macabbi> noodles, I've not resolved my problem of getting large data from my lin drive to my win drive either. All the current software is buggy. I'm sticking to using rewritable media for now.
[08:02] <h3xis> seamus7, yes
[08:02] <seamus7> h3xis: you there?
[08:02] <bartist> how can i fix my sound?
[08:02] <bartist> please help
[08:02] <noodles12> theflyingfool: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87798&highlight=ipv6    i think it's for dapper but it could be useful
[08:03] <manny> vol control for HDA ATI SB (Alsa mixer )
[08:03] <Schminux> Pie-rate:  sometimes it's a missing line in the config that got entered when it was working but not put into config file
[08:03] <Jewfro-Macabbi> noodles, I thought about trying a fat32 partition just for that myself
[08:03] <theflyingfool> noodles12:ill check it out
[08:03] <theflyingfool> thanks
[08:03] <weiyh> why i can
[08:03] <Pie-rate> bartist: its impossible. sound is broken on linux and will never work! muahahahaha you got s3rved by ubunt00
[08:03] <Spee_Der> manny: Once volume control is open, click on edit the preferences and go down the list to add / change the ehadphone settings.
[08:03] <h3xis> Pie-rate, what have you done in the past 3 days
[08:03] <seamus7> h3xis: I just noticed that when I run glxgears that it does say I'm getting over 1200 frames in 5 seconds ... is that what your'e looking at or are you looking at the final number .... the fps?
[08:04] <weiyh> why i can't adjust the brightness or the contrast using 1.2.3,4 with my MPLYER
[08:04] <Pie-rate> h3xis: its all detailed on the website
[08:04] <riotkittie> e GUI mixer, and several other mixer programs.
[08:04] <riotkittie> run "aumix -v 90 -w 90 -W 90 -p 90 -m 70 -g 70 -c 100" at the request of someone on IRC
[08:04] <riotkittie> run "alsaconf"
[08:04] <riotkittie> tried sound in Knopix to rule out a hardware issue. worked fine.
[08:04] <manny> notghing there for headphones
[08:04] <riotkittie> oooooops
[08:04] <riotkittie> sorry
[08:04] <h3xis> seamus7, that's what im getting
[08:04] <riotkittie> stupid gpm :P
[08:04] <manny> just says Master , PCM , and Capture
[08:04] <noodles12> Jewfro-Macabbi: yea i'm thinking abotu that myself
[08:04] <houston> dxdt any idea what i should/can do
[08:04] <riotkittie> ooh brb
[08:05] <Schminux> 1200 in five se3cs should be more that adequate since your eyes can hardly see the diff between 60 and 50 fps
[08:05] <seamus7> h3xis: i'm sorry .... you're looking at the "frames in 5 seconds" number?
[08:05] <houston> supposedly network manager runs great with the type of wifi card thats in thi smachine
[08:05] <h3xis> seamus7, yes
[08:05] <bartist> my sound only works when it wants, what can i do?
[08:05] <seamus7> h3xis: oh ok cool ... then I'm probably doing okay .. as I average 1250
[08:05] <bartist> last time it worked was before X sound server crashed
[08:05] <h3xis> seamus7, yeah that's fine :P
[08:06] <dxdt> houston, what does show up when you right click on the icon.  There will be at least some text that comes up, right?
[08:06] <Spee_Der> manny: That is the best lead I am able to provide for you, look around there and see if you can find the settings for the headphone and make changes accordingly.
[08:06] <seamus7> h3xis: thx for the help
[08:06] <manny> Spee_Der i dont have that setting
[08:06] <Schminux> bartist, sounds like you have a female sound card... don't aggravate it or it will never work
[08:06] <manny> there was posts ont he forum
[08:06] <manny> about it
[08:06] <manny> sometihng about installing some alsa driver
[08:06] <manny> because this laptop doesnt work with headphones
[08:06] <houston> dxdt: yes...enabled networking, connection information, and about
[08:07] <Spee_Der> manny: Ok. That is the best I can do for now..
[08:07] <noodles12> !fat32
[08:07] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - See also !fuse
[08:07] <bartist> i appreciate the humour
[08:07] <bartist> but this sound pb is getting me mad!
[08:07] <Spee_Der> manny: I would try then using synaptic and do a search for alsa and see what is available for the version linux you are employing.
[08:07] <Pie-rate> bartist: welcome to the club
[08:08] <bartist> pie-rate you have sound pb too?
[08:08] <houston> dxdt: I did notice that it forced eth0, and it SHOULD be seeing or using eth1 for the wireless
[08:08] <bartist> under dapper, everything worked fine
[08:08] <bartist> but since edgy, arrggh
[08:08] <dxdt> houston, ok, let's try something interesting
[08:08] <pe3r> how do you upgrade freenas from web gui?
[08:08] <freshburn> i have a fresh isntall of kubuntu edgy, i am trying to install the package gnome-games with Adept i have succesfully updated all 90 packages that were avail to update and now when i request install gnome-games or ANY other package adept replies with "BREAK (install)", any suggestions?
[08:09] <noodles12> hey, what filesystems are usb's formatted in?
[08:09] <darweth> Anyone know how to get Theora playing in Mplayer?
[08:09] <h3xis> Pie-rate, all i can see are bug reports for that chipset
[08:09] <houston> dxdt: could the fact that i messed around with /etc/network/interfaces and wpa_supplicant be effecting it?
[08:09] <dxdt> houston, have you tried commented out eth1 in your /etc/networking/interfaces file?
[08:09] <houston> hehe
[08:09] <houston> no
[08:09] <bartist> i m tired of this ^\\@#
[08:09] <dxdt> houston, try seriously commenting it out (mine is for example)  to let network manager know that it should use that.
[08:09] <bartist> could it work on another distro?
[08:10] <Schminux> bartist, when I was having trouble with my Wireless, I tried Edgy, but went back to dapper and am happier now... only outstandingprob I have now is can't get my sidewinder force feedback js working
[08:10] <dxdt> houston, then I would restart just to make sure everything was cleaned up, you know?  just to make sure interfaces are brought up and down and such.
[08:10] <houston> ok...
[08:10] <houston> and by commenting it out you mean to #
[08:10] <houston> so comment in front of eth1? or eth0?
[08:11] <freshburn> quit
[08:11] <freshburn> ... sorry i was yelling at my pc and it showed up in chan
[08:11] <freshburn> :)
[08:11] <dxdt> houston, yeah, comment out eth1  (which is really wierd since that's the wireless and I know this sounds weird but yeah... let's try it)
[08:11] <bartist> they really messed up with edgy!
[08:11] <houston> k...
[08:11] <naknomik> I just installed ubuntu using netboot with 'server' option. Everything went fine but the server install fails to boot. I complains that it can not mount the root file system.
[08:11] <houston> first i am going to change it back to default
[08:11] <houston> reboot
[08:11] <houston> see what happens
[08:11] <houston> than comment it out
[08:12] <houston> and reboot if it didnt work
[08:12] <nukem> hey I'm on ubuntu 5 and I'm trying 2 get networking to work on this old laptop
[08:12] <houston> so stick around.//should take me 5 minutes or so.
[08:12] <nukem> i did ifconfig eth0 up;dhcpcd eth0
[08:12] <nukem> but it says dhcpcd eth0 dosnt exist
[08:12] <WarLord> !gcc
[08:12] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[08:12] <nukem> does ubuntu call it something else
[08:12] <nukem> i did the default install on ubuntu
[08:13] <freshburn> is there a way to force adept to isntall an older version of a package (or even apt-get) or to report what exactly will "BREAK" if i install said package?
[08:13] <Schminux> nukem, card might not be called eth0 what do you get for a plain :ifconfig"??
[08:14] <Schminux> sorry... "ifconfig"
[08:14] <nukem> it lists eth0 and eth1 ive tried both
[08:14] <Spee_Der> When I do ifconfig in terminal window, it returns eth0
[08:14] <nukem> each time it says dhcpcd, command not found
[08:15] <naknomik> my ubuntu install is broken, it doesn't boot, how do I fix it?
[08:15] <theflyingfool> does anyone know why i cant resolve hosts?
[08:15] <mvfeinstein> Can anyone here help me, for some reason if I right click on a app in the taskbar the was opened by default when I logged into my computer I get an error. Does anyone know what would cause this or how I can fix it?
[08:15] <h3xis> Pie-rate, as far as i can tell it's bug #37184 in ubuntu
[08:16] <h3xis> Pie-rate, i don't think it's been resolved but i could be wrong
[08:17] <ubuntunoob> i have XP installed and i want to install Ubuntu on a different drive. Will it mess up my Windows?
[08:17] <theflyingfool> other than ipv6 does anyone know why connections might time out hard core?
[08:17] <noodles12> ubuntunoob: no
[08:17] <ubuntunoob> it will become a dual boot?
[08:17] <naknomik> any help with my boot problem?
[08:17] <WarLord> hello
[08:17] <noodles12> ubuntunoob: yes. my ubuntu install automatically set-up grub for dualboot
[08:17] <WarLord> how to setup proxy in terminal ?
[08:18] <WarLord> ftp proxy ?
[08:18] <ubuntunoob> cool thanks
[08:18] <bartist> ubuntunoob try kubuntu
[08:18] <bartist> do you what is 'sound server'?
[08:18] <ubuntunoob> why Kubuntu?
[08:19] <athena> hi
[08:19] <Spee_Der> hi
[08:19] <naknomik> Can anybody help me with my boot problem?
[08:19] <noodles12> ubuntunoob: because it's kde and it's more "windows-like" than regular ubuntu is. but it's just preference.
[08:19] <bartist> because I think it has better applications
[08:19] <Schminux> nukem, I think the default install on ubuntu is to use DHCP but is your router or access point set up to broadcast DHCP?
[08:19] <noodles12> bartist: you can install kde applications in gnome. i use amarok and kpowersave regularly
[08:19] <bartist> konqueror, amarok, kontact are very good application
[08:19] <lunchboxdc> can anyone private message me and help me out with problems i'm having with banshee and it's daap plugin?
[08:20] <astroboy> Can anyone improve on < set sendmail="/usr/sbin/exim4" > in .muttrc ?
[08:20] <ubuntunoob> whats KDE?
[08:20] <noodles12> !kde
[08:20] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[08:20] <nukem> Schminux: yes gentoo and knoppix work fine w/ it
[08:20] <theflyingfool> does anyone know why i would timeout with wget http://www.google.com
[08:20] <Instabin> why did they change the /bin/sh link away from /bin/bash
[08:20] <athena> how do i find what version of ubuntu im on
[08:20] <Instabin> in 6.10
[08:20] <h3xis> !version | athena
[08:20] <ubotu> athena: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type 'lsb_release -a' in the Terminal.
[08:20] <athena> im a n00b
[08:20] <czr> is anyone aware of a command that does: 1) chroot, 2) cwd inside chroot, 3) restores privs (post suid), 4) executes target application within the chroot
[08:21] <athena> okies
[08:21] <ubuntunoob> so i can install kubuntu from the ubuntu live CD?
[08:21] <h3xis> ubuntulog, no.
[08:21] <h3xis> er
[08:21] <h3xis> ubuntunoob, no
[08:21] <ubuntunoob> need a different cd?
[08:21] <h3xis> no
[08:21] <kenthomson> Hello!
[08:22] <h3xis> gnome is fine, ubuntunoob
[08:22] <Spee_Der> athena: Good morning.
[08:22] <czr> you can install ubuntu and later install the kdevelop packages in order to get kde
[08:22] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> Does anyone know why I keep getting this error "glibc detected free() invalid next size (fast)"
[08:22] <ubuntunoob> czr, is that the best way to do it?
[08:22] <athena> good morning
[08:22] <czr> ubuntunoob, that will leave you with a system with both gnome and kde though.
[08:22] <noodles12> ubuntunoob: no but you can just install kde after you've installed ubuntu
[08:22] <Spee_Der> athena: Go to the task bar and click on applications.
[08:22] <czr> ubuntulog, scratch kdevelop. kde-desktop :-). or kubuntu-desktop.
[08:22] <Instabin> How can i record a video of my desktop
[08:22] <lunchboxdc> anybody know why banshee's daap plugin fails to start?
[08:22] <kenthomson> Where is the file inittab in Ubuntu? In other distros the file for accessing/changing run levels is located in /etc/inittab, but in Ubuntu i can't find a file of the same name. What is it called and where is it?
[08:22] <Spee_Der> athena: Then click on accessories, then click on terminal.
[08:23] <athena> im in terminal already
[08:23] <noodles12> ubuntunoob: you can look up gnome and kde to see which one you like better. but yes you can install ubuntu and just install the kde stuff later and use both
[08:23] <naknomik> I just installed ubuntu using netboot with 'server' option. Everything went fine but the server install fails to boot. I complains that it can not mount the root file system.
[08:23] <czr> kenthomson, /etc/inittab :-)
[08:23] <Schminux> naknomik, when thqt happened to me, I found it wqs a problem with my BIOS settings... I set them back to default values and that cured it
[08:23] <athena> i already found out what version
[08:23] <athena> i am use to gentoo at home
[08:23] <ubuntunoob> cool
[08:23] <athena> and im retarded with ubuntu
[08:23] <makuseru> can anyone help me with beryl? everyone is dead in #beryl
[08:23] <kenthomson> czr, its not there, thats where i looked for it in the first place
[08:23] <kenthomson> czr, in RedHat it is there but not in Ubuntu
[08:23] <theflyingfool> does anyone know if evolution has connection settings stored someplace that can be edited by hand
[08:23] <czr> kenthomson, if it's not there, then something is wrong. it's supposed to be there.
[08:23] <Spee_Der> athena: When the terminal opens, type lsb_release -a
[08:24] <Spee_Der> It may take a moment to gather infos
[08:24] <houston> anyone remember who was just helping me?
[08:24] <houston> hehe
[08:24] <athena> lol
[08:24] <athena> i did already
[08:24] <naknomik> anybody?
[08:24] <athena> i have breezy badger 5.10
[08:24] <ciscosurfer> Hello channel!
[08:24] <kenthomson> czr, alright it's not there, what should i do to re-generate it? Are you sure Ubuntu keeps it there?
[08:24] <nukem> y did ubuntu rename dhcpcd to dhclient?
[08:24] <h3xis> athena, why not dapper or edgy?
[08:24] <cbx33> hi guys trying to do ssh -X and getting the cannot open display message....why?
[08:24] <Silver_Seagull> Can anyone help me with the ATi driver, and what exactly I need to do to get XGL/AiGLX and compiz running?  The documentation out there is so scatterbrained it's driving me up the wall.
[08:25] <nukem> dhcpcd is standard across very distro ive used
[08:25] <athena> h3xis, dapper is a flavor?
[08:25] <nukem> every*
[08:25] <czr> kenthomson, yes I'm sure. it's the place where init will look for it. as long as distro is using init, the file is always at that location.
[08:25] <athena> never heard of it
[08:25] <h3xis> athena, it's a release.
[08:25] <czr> kenthomson, you should first find out what is exactly wrong and why the file is missing.
[08:25] <WarLord> :P
[08:25] <athena> wonderful
[08:25] <athena> lol
[08:26] <h3xis> athena, 5.10 is breezy badger. i cant remember what dapper is and 6.10 is edgy eft, the current release
[08:26] <kenthomson> czr, ok, than i don't have it. Nothing is wrong with my machine, i am new to LInux so there is not much of manual configuration that i have done. SO what should i do to get it? There are no symptons of the missing file visible in my PC, everything runs OK.
[08:26] <athena> hah
[08:26] <czr> h3xis, dapper is lts aka 6.06
[08:26] <athena> i am a noob
[08:26] <h3xis> right
[08:26] <athena> badly
[08:26] <nomin> which is better at recognizing newly installed additional distros, lilo or grub?
[08:26] <h3xis> athena, gentoo > ubuntu ;)
[08:26] <athena> yeay!
[08:26] <athena> i agree
[08:26] <czr> kenthomson, the system won't boot without the file. are you sure you're looking in the right place?
[08:26] <athena> what windows manager do you use
[08:26] <CorpseFeeder> anyone know how to add filetypes to the Firefox's "Download Actions" preferences?
[08:26] <kenthomson> h3xis, /join #gentoo
[08:26] <naknomik> I just installed ubuntu using netboot with 'server' option. Everything went fine but the server install fails to boot. I complains that it can not mount the root file system.
[08:26] <makuseru> kubuntu > everything
[08:26] <ciscosurfer> nomin: matter of preference....GRUB is the default
[08:26] <geo> hmm
[08:26] <h3xis> kenthomson, why?
[08:26] <czr> kenthomson, also, describe your system setup a bit.
[08:27] <athena> just wondering
[08:27] <LoginError> hello everyone
[08:27] <kenthomson> czr ken@ken-ubuntu:/etc$ ls | grep inittab
[08:27] <kenthomson> ken@ken-ubuntu:/etc$
[08:27] <houston> dcdt
[08:27] <houston> dxdt u here?
[08:27] <fokuslee> makuseru:  u should check out fluxbuntu
[08:27] <makuseru> what is that
[08:27] <LoginError> i need some help with a filesystem problem
[08:27] <ubuntunoob> ok im trying to install ubuntu to a drive that has data on it. how do i make sure I dont erase any data?
[08:27] <czr> kenthomson, could you pastebin (see topic) ls -la /etc (should be long listing)
[08:27] <fokuslee> makuseru:  itz ubuntu with fluxbox
[08:27] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> Can anyone help me fix this error "glibc detected free() invalid next size (fast)"
[08:27] <kenthomson> czr, see? I am using U.6.10. on AMD athlon 2600xp+
[08:28] <czr> kenthomson, also add output of 'df -T' and cat /proc/partitions
[08:28] <nomin> ciscosurfer: I have grub installed already and I'm thinking about adding another distro and am wondering if this grub can easily recognize it.
[08:28] <CorpseFeeder> Anyone know how to add/edit file types in firefox? So I can download files instead of just having their contents displayed...
[08:28] <dxdt> houston, yeah, how'd the reboot and things go?  Comment out the eth1 line?
[08:28] <ciscosurfer> nomin: should have no problems
[08:28] <bartist> my sound only works when it wants, how can i fix it?
[08:28] <makuseru> i dont like fluxbox
[08:28] <theflyingfool> does anyone know why i can connect to sites and stuff via firefox and nothing else
[08:28] <houston> dxdt it worked man...thanks...
[08:28] <nukem> so does anyone use debian anymore?
[08:28] <houston> not the commenting out part
[08:28] <kenthomson> czr, alright i am doing ls 1)-la /etc 2)df -T 3)cat /proc/partitions, anything else?
[08:28] <h3xis> nukem, i use it now
[08:28] <athena> lol
[08:28] <athena> nice
[08:28] <houston> but the network manager
[08:28] <houston> thanks
[08:28] <fokuslee> : ( : P
[08:28] <czr> kenthomson, not at the moment :-)
[08:28] <ciscosurfer> nomin: even if you use LILO, you might have to manually edit your menu.lst file anyhow
[08:29] <nomin> CorpseFeeder: did you try right clicking the file?
[08:29] <bartist> please help
[08:29] <dxdt> houston, seriously?  Awesome.
[08:29] <h3xis> bartist, what chipset
[08:29] <Jordan_U> nomin: Yes, run: sudo update-grub to make grub look for new OS's
[08:29] <czr> kenthomson, it's not a live-cd, right?
[08:29] <ubuntunoob> do i resize partition and use freed space or manually edit partition table?
[08:29] <houston> yep...ive SPENTT ALL DAY working on it...since i thought it SHOUDLVE been tough since my other computer was a bit of a challenge using ndiswrapper
[08:30] <naknomik> I just installed ubuntu using netboot with 'server' option. Everything went fine but the server install fails to boot. I complains that it can not mount the root file system.
[08:30] <kenthomson> czr, are you kidding me? :)
[08:30] <nomin> Jordan_U: so grub will automatically search for it and do the configuring automatically so I don't have to do any configuring?
[08:30] <czr> kenthomson, just checking :-)
[08:30] <houston> this is a buddys machine who wanted to switch to linux so i said id help him out
[08:30] <Jordan_U> nomin: Yup :)
[08:30] <CorpseFeeder> nomin: I cannot right click the file as there is no link... the link is a javascript link which launches a page with the file embedded... so it just loads the .run file into the browser window without downloading.
[08:31] <czr> kenthomson, I've made a copy of my 6.10 inittab for you, but I'll check the paste first, maybe it contains something. the file doesn't "just disappear by itself".
[08:31] <CorpseFeeder> nomin: I need to be able to tell firefox to ask me to save the file instead of loading it into a window
[08:31] <kenthomson> czr, ok i am pasting it, but the paste-bin says DONT SPAM ME, I HATE SPAMMERS. Holy Crap!
[08:31] <ubuntunoob> ok im trying to install ubuntu to a drive that has data on it. how do i make sure I dont erase any data?
[08:31] <czr> kenthomson, try this one: http://rafb.net/paste/
[08:32] <nomin> CorpseFeeder: I wouldn't know how to do that.
[08:32] <bartist> h3xis intel AC97
[08:32] <h3xis> bartist, intel hda?
[08:32] <naknomik> I just installed ubuntu using netboot with 'server' option. Everything went fine but the server install fails to boot. I complains that it can not mount the root file system.
[08:32] <bartist> intel hda or intel8x0
[08:32] <h3xis> bartist, okay. edgy?
[08:32] <noodles12> ubuntunoob: back up the data because it'll be lost.
[08:32] <bartist> yes
[08:32] <tall__1> so are the apt-get packages for ubuntu the ones on the debian site?
[08:32] <bartist> kubuntu edgy
[08:32] <kenthomson> czr, Have a look! http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/1532/
[08:33] <dxdt> houston, keep in mind if the little network manager icon isn't appearing in the top right corner upon startup you could add it to System >> Preferences >> Sessions >> Statup programs
[08:33] <h3xis> bartist, has it recently stopped working or what
[08:33] <kenthomson> czr, I hope my run-levels wouldn't be mesed up by using your custom inittab
[08:33] <houston> it is tho
[08:33] <bartist> h3xis, it stoped worked for a long time
[08:33] <kenthomson> czr, but theoretically the pc shouldn't boot if that file is missing. what's going on?
[08:33] <houston> so I am happy
[08:33] <houston> :)
[08:33] <czr> kenthomson, it's not that custom. I haven't modified it post install :-)
[08:33] <bartist> then i read somewhere
[08:33] <h3xis> bartist, how long ago
[08:33] <kenthomson> czr, ok
[08:33] <kenthomson> czr, how 'bout the second question
[08:33] <h3xis> bartist, did you do anything like upgrade from dapper to edgy?
[08:33] <ubuntunoob> noodles12, can't i just make a new partition?
[08:34] <czr> kenthomson, not even theoretically. maybe you've mounted a wrong etc?
[08:34] <bartist> that i had to purge linux alsa packages, and reinstall them
[08:34] <bartist> then my sound worked again
[08:34] <czr> not even theoretically = it will not boot. init will fail.
[08:34] <bartist> until sound server crashed
[08:34] <kenthomson> czr, i don't have a seperate partition of etc, i have 1)/ and 2)/home, those are the partitions
[08:34] <noodles12> ubuntunoob: yea a new partition. but anytime you try to repartition with data on it there is a chance data will be lost
[08:34] <bartist> then, i ve tried purging and reinstalling those packages
[08:34] <bartist> but nothing
[08:34] <theflyingfool> My evolution and Xchat are both, useless, neither one of them will connect to the internet, in terminal wget doesnt work but apt-get does, does anyone have any ideas
[08:35] <kenthomson> czr, less /etc/inittab, should give some output right?
[08:35] <naknomik> My root partition fails to mount I get resource busy error while booting, what's wrong?
[08:35] <czr> kenthomson, one more thing: cat /proc/mounts
[08:35] <asdfjkahsdfjkha> Can anyone help me fix this error "glibc detected free() invalid next size (fast)"
[08:35] <bartist> the last time i had sound was just before the sound server crashed
[08:35] <naknomik> I just installed ubuntu using netboot with 'server' option. Everything went fine but the server install fails to boot. I complains that it can not mount the root file system.
[08:35] <theflyingfool> firefox also works fine
[08:35] <noodles12> ubuntunoob: i'm about to resize my partitions and i'm backing up. but my back-up hd is in ntfs >.< blah!
[08:35] <czr> kenthomson, it would, if the file would exist. it doesn't on your /etc. weird.
[08:35] <bartist> any idea h3xis?
[08:35] <LoginError> I have just installed Ubuntu on my laptop alongside windows, and am very pleased sofar, i created a fat32 partition to "share" with windows and mounted it fine, but i cant change the file permissions, it will only let me access it as root
[08:35] <h3xis> bartist, not that i can think of :/ i have intel hda as well and i ran ubuntu for 3 days before i threw it out but i had audio working fine
[08:36] <ubuntunoob> noodles12, so can I go back to windows and create a new partition, and then come back to install it on the one I created?
[08:36] <kenthomson> czr, could you join #kensworld
[08:36] <bartist> h3xis, you have intel ac97?
[08:36] <h3xis> bartist, yes
[08:36] <ubuntunoob> there is no way i can backup 230GB of data
[08:36] <bartist> is it both sound card and modem?
[08:37] <h3xis> bartist, ummmm yes, i think
[08:37] <bartist> so the correct driver should be intel-hda, am i right?
[08:37] <h3xis> yes.
[08:37] <bartist> i'll try to install them manualy
[08:37] <theflyingfool> I am having some serious network issues, should i reinstall edgy? or is there a way to fix it
[08:38] <J-_> !lamp
[08:38] <ubotu> LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)
[08:38] <bartist> h3xis, you get rid of ubuntu, what r u using now?
[08:38] <nysosym> hi all, i have a very special problem with my Monitor (LG L204WT). I have some flickering Pixel on some places. In windows i must use these (http://tinyurl.com/yzry23) setting to haven't these flickering pixels, but how can i set these under linux?
[08:38] <riotkittie> elaborate on serious
[08:38] <naknomik> I just installed ubuntu using netboot with 'server' option. Everything went fine but the server install fails to boot. I complains that it can not mount the root file system.
[08:38] <theflyingfool> the only program that will do anything with the internet is firefox
[08:38] <h3xis> bartist, ive used slackware for a long time, then moved to debian. i bought a new laptop and tried out ubuntu again (first release i used of it was warty warthog) and still hated it so i went back to debian
[08:39] <ciscosurfer> theflyingfool: so you haven't lost your ip
[08:39] <ciscosurfer> right
[08:39] <bartist> why dont you like ubuntu?
[08:39] <ciscosurfer> ?
[08:39] <ubuntunoob> how much space does ubuntu need?
[08:39] <h3xis> bartist, it's too sugar coated
[08:39] <bartist> I am tired of this sound pb, and I like kde
[08:39] <ciscosurfer> theflyingfool: in a terminal, can you ping any ip addresses?
[08:39] <bartist> could it be fixed with another distro?
[08:39] <blue_guy> hello every1. I'm having a problem running Blender (3D modeling program) on Dapper. Every time I try to select an object, Blender crashes with all sorts of funny colors. Anybody know anything about it?
[08:39] <h3xis> bartist, oh probably
[08:39] <ciscosurfer> theflyingfool: first do it by name
[08:40] <bartist> (i dont understand sugar coated)
[08:40] <ciscosurfer> theflyingfool: then by ip only
[08:40] <theflyingfool> ciscosurfer: by name no
[08:40] <ciscosurfer> theflyingfool: how bout by ip only
[08:40] <theflyingfool> whats googles ip
[08:40] <ubuntunoob> how much space does ubuntu need?
[08:40] <bartist> which kde distro would you recommend me?
[08:41] <ciscosurfer> theflyingfool: <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:41] <ttmrichter> I've installed Ubuntu in a 2GB partition once.
[08:41] <ttmrichter> That was Ubuntu Server, to be fair.
[08:41] <ciscosurfer> theflyingfool: sounds like DNS issues to me
[08:41] <theflyingfool> yup no problem
[08:41] <sarge> huh?
[08:41] <sarge> hi
[08:41] <h3xis> bartist, novell suse is the only distro that is "easy" that uses kde
[08:41] <naknomik> can't anybody help me here?
[08:41] <Vord> hey, can somebody give me a hand really quick? I'm trying to figure out how to change the bar that comes up showing startup scripts after entering username/password
[08:41] <Vord> Using Edgy 6.10
[08:41] <ubuntunoob> ttmrichter, im going to install kde on top too
[08:41] <riotkittie> ubuntunoob: ~2.5gb min
[08:41] <bartist> opensuse?
[08:41] <theflyingfool> ciscosurfer: is there a way to fix my dns
[08:41] <h3xis> bartist, by sugar coated i mean everything is "too easy" and not traditional. everything is automated
[08:42] <blue_guy> Does anybody here use Blender 3D on Dapper?
[08:42] <naknomik> pretty please?
[08:42] <ttmrichter> If you give yourself 5GB you'll be fine.
[08:42] <sarge> Im trying to install Sauerbraten its at www.sauerbraten.org
[08:42] <ciscosurfer> theflyingfool: first try this:::  sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[08:42] <ubuntunoob> ok
[08:42] <ubuntunoob> thanks
[08:42] <riotkittie> my ubuntu partition's like 3gb. but if you have more space, you might want to add it ;p
[08:42] <naknomik> I just installed ubuntu using netboot with 'server' option. Everything went fine but the server install fails to boot. I complains that it can not mount the root file system.
[08:42] <sarge> i downloaded the linix version but i cant instal the extracted files
[08:42] <ttmrichter> I've got a testbed here where I've been giving 10GB per partition and that's turned out to be massive overkill.
[08:42] <bartist> with ubuntu i've had pb with my nvidia driver, and now, sound
[08:42] <sarge> im totaly lost
[08:42] <sarge> \help
[08:42] <sarge> please
[08:42] <LoginError> does anyone have any idea why i can't change the access permissions of a mounted drive?
[08:42] <bartist> may be i should try opensuse...
[08:42] <bartist> i am very tired of this sound pb!
[08:43] <riotkittie> LoginError: in the drive ntfs?
[08:43] <ubuntunoob> will i be able to use drives of other partitions too?
[08:43] <sarge> Hey guys how do I install this game? www.sauerbraten.org
[08:43] <Schminux> does anyone know if uinput.o is related to or replaces input.o??
[08:43] <h3xis> bartist, opensuse might be for you
[08:43] <theflyingfool> cisocosurfer : ran it now im testing again
[08:43] <riotkittie> try slackware, bartist :D
[08:43] <ciscosurfer> k
[08:43] <h3xis> riotkittie, oh my god dont torture him
[08:43] <CyberCod>  LoginError: if the drive is read only in your fstab file, you won't be able to change anything
[08:43] <h3xis> riotkittie, i had a bitch of a time getting wireless to work in slack
[08:43] <bartist> i'll give it try as soon as i dl it
[08:43] <CyberCod> Heya riotkittie
[08:44] <riotkittie> h3xis: i havent even bothered trying yet on my slackbased distro
[08:44] <LoginError> CyberCod: i think that it should be accessable for all in fstab
[08:44] <riotkittie> hiya CyberCod
[08:44] <LoginError> 1 sec
[08:44] <ttmrichter> ubuntunoob: I have all my test systems cross-mounting each other like crazy.  No problems.
[08:44] <blue_guy> Does anybody here use Blender 3D? I'm having a problem with it.
[08:44] <ttmrichter> ubuntunoob:  I tend to mount the other test partitions read-only (because I don't want to accidentally change them), but it all looks like one big happy filesystem to me.
[08:44] <concept10> how do I change the sensible-browser?  For some reason it launches this monster called Konqueror
[08:45] <ttmrichter> I tried using Blender a while back.  I gave up after having it crash repeatedly.  :)
[08:45] <riotkittie> ehhh. i need a nice, small distro with a decent package manager and overflowing repos
[08:45] <LoginError> CyberCod: my fstab sais this
[08:45] <LoginError> dev/sda4   /mnt/shared  vfat    defaults,gid=disk,umask=0000     0 0
[08:45] <blue_guy> hmm ttm
[08:45] <theflyingfool> ciscosurfer: some are found fine by name, and i still only have firefox support to the net
[08:45] <ttmrichter> riotkittie: May I point you to Xubuntu?
[08:45] <BFrank> does anyone know why mounting ntfs filesystems manually causes them to be owned by root, and to not allow the root user to chown or chmod on the mounted directory?
[08:45] <CyberCod> Loginerror: it depends, there's a modifier on the entry in fstab that denotes read only or write access... and in order to change permissions, you have to have write access... even root cannot change permissions, though root may have permissions to view that other users do not
[08:45] <ciscosurfer> theflyingfool: have you tried rebooting?
[08:46] <CyberCod> if you have write access, root should be able to change ownership and permissions
[08:46] <Schminux> h3xis, although the initial setup needed more input on SuSE it sure was stable and easy to work with after that.... especially liked the package installer... but for desktop setup which I will need to do often, I am trying to use ubuntu
[08:46] <BFrank> ntfs is mounted readonly
[08:46] <theflyingfool> multiply times but ill give it another
[08:46] <riotkittie> ttmrichter: uh. no. xubuntu does not qualify as small.
[08:46] <BFrank> when a fs is mounted readonly, how to you override the owner and permissions?
[08:46] <ciscosurfer> k
[08:46] <sarge> Hey guys how do I install this game? www.sauerbraten.org
[08:46] <bartist> i like kubuntu
[08:46] <LoginError> Ya, i have been able to change the permissions of other files using sudo, but not this drive for some reason
[08:46] <bartist> but my {#~{~#~{# sound dont want to work!!
[08:46] <ttmrichter> Then you're pretty much out of luck in the Ubuntu world, riotkittie.
[08:47] <CyberCod> if you go in there in root mode are you able to create a folder?
[08:47] <blue_guy> I guess I'm gonna try uninstalling, rebooting, and reinstalling. If that doesn't work, I may also have to give up on Blender.
[08:47] <BFrank> no
[08:47] <BFrank> ntfs is mounted read only
[08:47] <riotkittie> ttmrichter: i'm pretty much out of luck everywhere. :P
[08:47] <CyberCod> if you can, you've got write access
[08:47] <sarge> Hey guys how do I install this game? www.sauerbraten.org
[08:47] <ttmrichter> riotkittie: define "small".
[08:47] <LoginError> 1 sec
[08:47] <ttmrichter> (And while you're at it explain why this is desirable.  ;) )
[08:47] <CyberCod> ntfs write support is provided with ntfs-3g
[08:47] <blue_guy> later all, and thanks for the reply ttm
[08:48] <CyberCod> !ntfs
[08:48] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[08:48] <BFrank> my question is, because ntfs is mounted read only, and is being mounted manually, why don't I have permission to override the owner and the default permissions?
[08:48] <CyberCod> !ntfs-3g
[08:48] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[08:48] <miron> where are totem codecs?
[08:48] <miron> url i mean
[08:48] <sarge> Hey guys how do I install this game? www.sauerbraten.org
[08:48] <BFrank> gstreamer
[08:48] <Madpilot> BFrank, because Linux can't really write safely to NTFS
[08:48] <miron> gstreamer?
[08:48] <BFrank> but the permissions are virtual anyway, aren't they?
[08:48] <ciscosurfer> sarge: checking...
[08:48] <Madpilot> ubotu, codecs | miron
[08:48] <ubotu> miron: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:48] <ttmrichter> sarge: You might find more instructions on that web site than you can find here.
[08:48] <BFrank> so why is it making group and other's permissions -x so that they can't chdir into it?
[08:48] <LoginError> CyberCod: yes i can create a directory as root
[08:49] <theflyingfool> thats odd, its checking my filesystems, and i did a standard reboot
[08:49] <riotkittie> ttmrichter: to paraphrase ...  i cant tell you what small is, but i know it when i see it.  :P  zenwalk is kind of small ...  1.4gb
[08:49] <sarge> Nahh couldent find a thing
[08:49] <sarge> Im new to linux so this is all confusing
[08:49] <miron> cool, thanks
[08:50] <ciscosurfer> sarge: go here and read the docs and wiki (especially the sections called "config" under Docs >>http://www.sauerbraten.org/README.html
[08:51] <kenthomson> I use Azureus, but it behaved like a mad-man, on googling i found that the azureus in ubuntu's 6.10 repos was broken, and shouldn't be used. So i headed over to azureus.sf.net and downloaded a .jar file, but i don't know how to install it. Can someone please help me???
[08:51] <ciscosurfer> sarge: I'm checking it out right now...i'll report back
[08:51] <sarge> ok
[08:51] <Hellevator> What is everyone's opinion of raid 0?  Is it worth the trouble? Is there any real performance gains under Linux?
[08:51] <ttmrichter> sarge: OK, that's a bit of a hurdle.  Basically, though, installing most software isn't that difficult even from source.  Usually it's a "tar x" followed by "make" and "sudo make install".  There may be variations in packages, though.
[08:51] <BFrank> striped probably would be worth the effort
[08:51] <ttmrichter> riotkittie: And what makes small so attractive to you, riotkittie?
[08:52] <riotkittie> ttmrichter: for starters,  i have an 11,2gb hard drive :P
[08:52] <BFrank> ha, if you want small, why not just use damn small linux
[08:52] <sarge> what in gods name dose that mean lol
[08:52] <sarge> Im totaly new to this
[08:52] <ciscosurfer> sarge: gunzip the file (or just right-click and extract it), chmod +x sauerbraten_unix and then ./sauerbraten_unix
[08:52] <riotkittie> BFrank: because damn small is .... well, probably too damn small.
[08:53] <BFrank> ha
[08:53] <sarge> thats all or is there more to it?
[08:53] <ttmrichter> riotkittie: I use 10GB partiitons for my testbed and am wasting over 75% of each partition's space with Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu.
[08:53] <Naik0> Hello ppl
[08:53] <Hellevator> BFrank, what stripe size would be optimal for linux?
[08:53] <theflyingfool> ciscosurfer: it looks like it still hates me
[08:53] <ciscosurfer> hmm...
[08:54] <ttmrichter> riotkittie: My wife uses a 10GB partition for Ubuntu *WITH* extra software installed and hasn't run out of room yet.
[08:54] <ciscosurfer> theflyingfool: without knowing more, i'd say do a quick backup of your the files you want and the reinstall (sorry, i know that's prob. NOT what you wanted to here...)
[08:54] <PORDO> does anyone know how the heck sound juicer's profile descriptions work?
[08:54] <riotkittie> ttmrichter: im sure that with dapper alone, i'd have no issues
[08:54] <riotkittie> but i am multibooting
[08:54] <fokuslee> riotkittie check out fluxbuntu
[08:54] <ttmrichter> riotkittie: have you thought about upgrading the hard drive then?  :)
[08:54] <BFrank> Hellevator: I guess it depends on the size of the files you will be storing
[08:55] <Madpilot> riotkittie, a harddrive that tiny, and you're multibooting? Wow.
[08:55] <kenthomson> HeloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooO! Can someone help me install Azureus*.jar file from azureus .sf.net??????????????
[08:55] <acidnine> can i get some help getting started, cuz i get an i/o problem when trying to install
[08:55] <riotkittie> dapper + zenwalk + 2k ... though 2k is toast as soon as i find the motivation to move partitions
[08:55] <theflyingfool> ciscosurfer: i guess its not to bad because i made a backup earlier today, just because i dont trust the hd in the computer
[08:55] <BFrank> kenthomson: can't you just java -jar Azureus.jar?
[08:55] <Hellevator> bfrank, lets just say for the operating system in general, not taking into account the size of my files
[08:55] <LoginError> CyberCod: any more things i can try?
[08:55] <kenthomson> BFrank, no
[08:55] <ciscosurfer> theflyingfool: okay, then a reinstall shouldn't be that big of a hassle...and you'll be glad after you're done :-)
[08:55] <d03boy> how do I turn on my wifi hardware on my laptop?
[08:56] <ciscosurfer> sarge: okay, are you on Edgy??
[08:56] <BFrank> ahh, Azureus uses swt
[08:56] <BFrank> and eclipse
[08:56] <sarge> what is edgy??
[08:56] <riotkittie> ttmrichter: yeah, i'm going to get a new drive eventually.
[08:56] <Madpilot> sarge, nickname for Ubuntu 6.10
[08:56] <sarge> no im 6.06
[08:56] <theflyingfool> does anyone know if frostwire is in the repos yet, and azuerus
[08:56] <riotkittie> otoh, i should just suck it up and ge a new laptop
[08:56] <kenthomson> BFrank, it says "ken@ken-ubuntu:~/Desktop$ java -jar /home/ken/Desktop/Azureus<IP_ADDRESS>.jar.two
[08:56] <kenthomson> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/commons/cli/CommandLine
[08:56] <kenthomson> "
[08:57] <ciscosurfer> hmm
[08:57] <BFrank> .two?
[08:57] <fokuslee> riotkitties laptops are always overpriced if u want one u should wait till blackfriday even then itz a reap off
[08:57] <riotkittie> yea, i know, fokuslee
[08:57] <ciscosurfer> sarge: i had a fix if you were on Edgy, but I can't help you if you're on Dapper
[08:57] <ciscosurfer> sorry
[08:57] <d03boy> ya, wait til black friday. its only a year away
[08:57] <noodles12> I can't parititon my back-up hd to fat32 because the limit is only 4gb is that correct?
[08:57] <theflyingfool> damn it i lost my edgy cd...
[08:58] <sarge> so is there anywhere or anyone who can help me?
[08:58] <riotkittie> i wanted to go get one last black friday but my husband is insane :P
[08:58] <ubuntunoob> is ubuntu able to see different partitions on drives or just the physical drives for install?
[08:58] <riotkittie> ubuntunoob: it can see different partitions
[08:58] <kenthomson> BFrank, i just put it that way
[08:58] <ubuntunoob> thanks
[08:58] <fokuslee> riotkittie put him on sofa for a couple of days : )
[08:59] <riotkittie> fokuslee: tempting :P
[08:59] <BFrank> kenthomson: does it work even when you remove the .two at the end?
[08:59] <kenthomson> BFrank, no it doesn;t
[08:59] <kenthomson> BFrank, thats what i tried in the first place
[08:59] <BFrank> hmm
[08:59] <BFrank> what version of java?
[08:59] <BFrank> 1.4.x?
[09:00] <kenthomson> BFrank, the one in edgy's repos
[09:00] <theflyingfool> i guess now i have a good excuse to try another distro lol
[09:00] <kenthomson> BFrank, ken@ken-ubuntu:~$ java -version
[09:00] <kenthomson> java version "1.5.0_08"
[09:00] <kenthomson> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_08-b03)
[09:00] <kenthomson> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_08-b03, mixed mode, sharing)
[09:00] <ttmrichter> riotkittie: you don't need a new laptop.  Laptop hard disks can be upgraded.  I upgraded mine from 40GB to 100GB, for instance, at a tiny fraction of the price of a new laptop.
[09:01] <kenthomson> Can anyone help me installing Azureus. PPPLLLEEEAAASSSEEE
[09:01] <BFrank> I guess Auzureus is missing a dependency of some kind
[09:01] <riotkittie> ttmrichter: i know laptop drives can be upgraded, but i /want/ a new laptop
[09:01] <kenthomson> BFrank, what should id o?
[09:01] <ttmrichter> riotkittie: Well, that's a different story then.  :)
[09:02] <riotkittie> this does everything i need it to, but ooh, an upgrade would be nice.
[09:02] <BFrank> something probably needs to be added to the classpath for auzureus to properly work
[09:03] <kenthomson> BFrank, and what is that?
[09:03] <kenthomson> BFrank, where should i look for it?
[09:03] <kenthomson> BFrank, can you help? or are you guessing
[09:03] <BFrank> Java is telling you it can't find some dependencies
[09:03] <kenthomson> So?
[09:03] <kenthomson> what am i supposed to do?
[09:04] <kenthomson> Why don't you tel me what to do if you know it
[09:04] <weiyh> get trouble via install the nvidia card driver (ubuntu 6.10 / GeForce FX 5700LE ) just (sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx ) , X  walkout , i have to restore the xorg.conf ,does anybody meet the same problem ?
[09:05] <kenthomson> !nvidia | weiyh
[09:05] <ubotu> weiyh: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:05] <bentoh> i received errors 'error 1' and 'error 2' when using 'make' whilst installing gaim beta5, anyone care to enlighten me?
[09:05] <weiyh> yea ,nvidia
[09:05] <bentoh> or is there an easier way to install gaim beta5
[09:05] <kenthomson> weiyh, read that thing?
[09:05] <weiyh> okay
[09:05] <kenthomson> grrr.........
[09:05] <BFrank> according to the faq you need SWT
[09:06] <BFrank> you might want to try reading the damn faq
[09:07] <ciscosurfer> sarge: you there??
[09:07] <ciscosurfer> figured it out
[09:08] <ciscosurfer> ^SaRgE^: same sarge as 10 minutes ago??
[09:08] <ciscosurfer> anyone know if sarge has left the channel??
[09:09] <czr> ciscosurfer, learn how to use your irc-client please.
[09:09] <ciscosurfer> czr: excuse me?
[09:09] <fokuslee> cisocsurfer try type sarg see if tab auto complete his name if not he left
[09:09] <ciscosurfer> czr: very fluent thank you
[09:10] <BFrank> and use whowas to figure out if the user is the same
[09:10] <cherva> can someone explain me the "nice" command because i don't realy understand the help of the program
[09:10] <ciscosurfer> czr: simple questions need not be addressed in that way
[09:10] <fokuslee> czr u can be more constructive by helping him
[09:10] <bentoh> erm, some help in installing gaim beta5?
[09:10] <czr> fokuslee, that seemed to be to most constructive advice wrt long-term :-)
[09:11] <ttmrichter> bentoh: what kind of help?
[09:11] <ciscosurfer> czr: i know how to use irc
[09:11] <czr> ciscosurfer, /whois sarge then
[09:11] <ciscosurfer> czr: it was just a question
[09:11] <BFrank> then you should have been able to do a whowas, and figure out if it was the same person
[09:12] <ciscosurfer> czr: right....but his nick has changed.....so that doesn't work
[09:12] <bentoh> when using ./config and make, have errors about recursive directories. i know its kinda vague, but any ideas?
[09:12] <czr> ciscosurfer, read what bfrank wrote.
[09:12] <arti> can anyone tell me why when i burn something to a disc in windows, when i try and open it in ubuntu it gives me permissions denied(400)?
[09:12] <arti> =\
[09:12] <ttmrichter> bentoh: Usually it means that you're missing a key library.
[09:13] <ttmrichter> bentoh: You have to pore over the ./config output and see what's missing.
[09:13] <ttmrichter> bentoh: Hint: It's usually a -dev package.
[09:13] <bentoh> aight, thx. i'll give it a try
[09:13] <ttmrichter> czr, bfrank: Cut ciscosurfer some slack.  Not everybody can be as perfect an elite as you with IRC commands.
[09:13] <ciscosurfer> czr: this is the #ubuntu channel, right?  not like some other channels where people are disrepectful and unfriendly?
[09:14] <BFrank> I wasn't being unfriendly
[09:14] <BFrank> at least I gave you the commands to help you help yourself
[09:14] <ciscosurfer> ttmrichter: <appreciated>
[09:14] <fokuslee> uhoh round of screwdriver for everyone so we can all be tipsy and happy : )
[09:14] <BFrank> you want unfriendly, head to #freebsd
[09:14] <ciscosurfer> or #debian
[09:14] <bartist> h3xis, i wanted to download suse, but its FIVE cds ... !
[09:14] <ttmrichter> BFrank: sure looked like it from here.
[09:15] <h3xis> bartist, are you sure theyre not extras?
[09:15] <weiyh> /clera
[09:15] <ttmrichter> BFrank: There are friendly ways to provide aid and unfriendly ways. A nd saying "but those guys over there are worse" is quite possibly the lamest defense I've ever seen.
[09:15] <BFrank> helping people to help themselves is not being unfriendly
[09:15] <bartist> extras??
[09:15] <h3xis> bartist, ive never played with suse or know much about it
[09:15] <h3xis> bartist, yeah. debian has 14 CDs. 13 are extras
[09:15] <bartist> i'll check
[09:15] <czr> bartist, it's possible to download the ftp-install cd. the rest of the install will be done over the network.
[09:15] <h3xis> bartist, czr has the right idea
[09:15] <czr> bartist, however, it is very slow.
[09:16] <ciscosurfer> BFrank, czr, ttmrichter: wow guys, didn't mean to start a feud...really didn't...sorry...
[09:16] <BFrank> that wasn't a feud
[09:16] <ttmrichter> ciscosurfer: You started nothing.
[09:16] <BFrank> a feud is which text editor is better than another editor
[09:16] <czr> BFrank :-)
[09:17] <BFrank> or BSD is better than Linux
[09:17] <ttmrichter> ciscosurfer: You just did something in a suboptimal way which two people decided was reason to hound instead of politely help.
[09:17] <BFrank> those are feuds
[09:17] <h3xis> dude
[09:17] <h3xis> vim > emacs
[09:17] <BFrank> muhahaha
[09:17] <bartist> i'd stay with kubuntu if only my XXXX sound would work!
[09:17] <BFrank> won't disagree there
[09:17] <BFrank> :)
[09:17] <h3xis> haha
[09:17] <h3xis> emacs gives me nightmares
[09:17] <fokuslee> haha h3xis thx for dat one
[09:17] <PORDO> bartist not a gnome fan?
[09:18] <ttmrichter> ciscosurfer: Incidentally if you are using GAIM for IRC, it's easy to select an ID from the right, right-click on it and ignore.
[09:18] <arti> h3xis, how come when i burn help files to a cd and try and open them in ubuntu, they give me permission errors? >.<
[09:18] <arti> along with my drivers ...
[09:18] <h3xis> no idea...
[09:18] <arti> wtf.
[09:18] <arti> its not that im using like a dvd-rw is it?
[09:18] <h3xis> i guess because of how the media is mounted
[09:18] <h3xis> just open it with sudo
[09:19] <arti> meaning?
[09:19] <ttmrichter> ciscosurfer: I find liberal application of that capability a good approach for maintaining blood presure levels.
[09:19] <h3xis> sudo /path/to/file/you/wanna/open
[09:19] <BFrank> Did you use mkisofs to burn the cd?
[09:19] <BFrank> and did you use rockridge extensions?
[09:19] <arti> i used infra recorder
[09:19] <arti> if ur talking to me
[09:20] <LoginError> hey CyberCod, i fixed my problem by mounting the disk somewhere else
[09:20] <LoginError> thanks for helping tho
[09:20] <juano> how can i make a script execute on login ? i tried /etc/init.d with +x, doesnt seem to do the trick
[09:20] <czr> juano, by login you mean when certain user logs in? or what?
[09:21] <juano> yes
[09:21] <BFrank> hmm
[09:21] <juano> czr: yes
[09:21] <stefg> juano: after *login* the file .bashrc in your home-dir gets executed... add a call to your script there
[09:21] <czr> juano, call the script (or put the script) into ~/.bash_profile
[09:21] <juano> czr: stefg good thinkin guys, ill try that
[09:21] <czr> stefg, bashrc is also executed whenever bash starts. not just during login.
[09:21] <flo> how can i setup automatic login when my pc starts (i'm prety new to gnome) thx
[09:22] <czr> juano, if you want to force the script to run (so that the user cannot remove his/her ~/.bash_profile, then it's somewhat more difficult)
[09:22] <stefg> flo: to X? or a console login
[09:23] <juano> czr: ah i see
[09:23] <flo> stefg: to x
[09:23] <flo> X :-)
[09:23] <czr> juano, which problem are you trying to solve?
[09:24] <juano> i want to load checkgmail (an app) at startup
[09:24] <czr> juano, that problem is best done with user-specific profiles then (the ~/.bash_profile)
[09:25] <czr> best solved even :-)
[09:25] <stefg> flo: System-Admin-Login ,,, (or rather call gksudo gdmsetup from terminal) there's a tab in the dialog where you can set it
[09:25] <juano> czr: ok
[09:25] <czr> juano, the problem with putting programs in profile is that if they take a long to run, the user cannot do anything during that time. take this into consideration
[09:25] <flo> stefg: thx
[09:26] <juano> czr: oh, didnt know that.. ok i will thanks
[09:26] <juano> czr: maybe best is to add the line in ~/.xsession ?
[09:26] <czr> juano, the login shell will execute the script as it does with any script. so it will wait for all the commands to end before continuing
[09:27] <stefg> or you fork by &
[09:27] <czr> juano, might be. I don't know how the X startup sequence works for desktop users.
[09:27] <juano> czr: ok :) thanks
[09:27] <czr> & will cause problems when the program misbehaves
[09:28] <LinTux> I have just reinstalled and in Sinaptic I no longer have a Amateur Radio category or any Universal etc, anybody any ideas?
[09:28] <noodles12> I want to reformat an external HD using gparted. Can i install it from the repos and do that? or should i run it from the live cd?
[09:28] <stefg> czr: sure.. just depends on what you want to start automatically
[09:28] <Cagarro> I'm using gnome. Instead of firestarter can I install guarddog ?
[09:28] <fokuslee> stefg what is forK? i though & just send it to bg?
[09:28] <xipietotec> LinTux: check your repository list?
[09:28] <anorexicpillow> Sean K is coming back to the air :) http://digg.com/world_news/SKTFM_Back_On_The_Air
[09:28] <VIMmer> hi, i am trying to set up virtual hosts using ports, and when i restart apache, i get the following errorapache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using <IP_ADDRESS> for ServerName