[07:50] <Frogzoo> matth-w: so what's the problem?
[07:50] <matth-w> It's not running any flash...
[07:50] <lgc> Is anyone reading me? I do want to know since I've never used "Gaim" before. Please react...
[07:51] <Myrtti> lgc: yes
[07:51] <Frogzoo> matth-w: in the ff location bar, enter 'about:plugins' - do you see the non free flash plugin?
[07:51] <strayhikari> lgc: yes
[07:51] <Frogzoo> lgc: can't see a thing, sorry
[07:51] <matth-w> one second
[07:52] <matth-w> I don't.
[07:52] <Sp4rKy> i'm trying to install swsusp2 with a <IP_ADDRESS> kernel on dapper
[07:52] <Sp4rKy> but when i try "sudo hibernate" , it doesn't work
[07:52] <lgc> Myrtti, strayhikari, Frogzoo, thanks.  (I had to enter Windoze and download gaim just to ask...)
[07:53] <Frogzoo> matth-w: so read the pm from ubotu, and see where it mentions the non free flash plugin & install it
[07:54] <lgc> Myrtti, strayhikari, Frogzoo, thanks.  (I had to enter Windoze and download gaim just to ask...)
[07:54] <strayhikari> sorry lgc, I'm pretty new to linux as well
[07:55] <IceTox> Does anyone know if Gnome has something alike karamba for KDE?
[07:55] <lgc> strayhikari: thanks anyway.
[07:55] <ajmitch> IceTox: try gDesklets
[07:55] <spikeb> gdesklets perhaps?
[07:55] <thoreauputic> !gdesklets
[07:55] <ubotu> [gdesklets]  gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[07:55] <IceTox> thanks
[07:55] <Tomcat_> strayhikari: Packages will *only* update, except if you advise apt to downgrade.
[07:55] <ajmitch> afternoon thoreauputic :)
[07:55] <thoreauputic> ajmitch: hello :)
[07:56] <matth-w> No new version is detected. ( = not installed)
[07:56] <matth-w> That's what it gave me
[07:56] <Sp4rKy> and when i start computer , i've a message like "incorrect value from resume2= , please set it before use suspend2" , whereas i've add "resume2=/dev/hdc10" on the menu.lst
[07:56] <strayhikari> Tomcat_: I just wanted to be careful, since dapper is in the testing category was afraid apt-get woudl consider the latest stable version as an upgrade (had this problem in gentoo)
[07:56] <Sp4rKy> please does anyone could help me
[07:58] <lgc> If I was flaming I'm sure I'd get more attention...:-D
[07:58] <matth-w> yeah, being on fire is a sure way to get attention
[07:58] <IceTox> ajmitch, do you happend to know where I can find theme files for this gDesklets?
[07:58] <FlannelKing> IceTox: inside of gDesklets theres a menu
[07:59] <IceTox> ok FlannelKing.. I'll have a look at it :-)
[07:59] <lgc> matth-w: Did I say "on flames"?
[07:59] <Frogzoo> Sp4rKy: for dapper -> #ubuntu+1
[07:59] <matth-w> No, but I was trying to make a bad pun.
[07:59] <Sp4rKy> Frogzoo, thx
[08:00] <matth-w> Just give me a curtosy laugh?
[08:00] <lgc> matth-w: you'd be better off helping me with my technical problem...
[08:00] <matth-w> True...
[08:00] <matth-w> Sorry
[08:00] <matth-w> I know nothing about ubuntu so far... so I'm no help. Sorry about that.
[08:01] <Tomcat_> strayhikari: Versions in Debian and Ubuntu are strictly seperated, so no worries. :o
[08:01] <lgc> matth-w: :-D, there's your "curtosy" laugh...
[08:01] <Tomcat_> strayhikari: You would have to manually change all references from dapper to breezy, and even then apt would not automatically downgrade stuff, because the dapper packages are newer.
[08:01] <matth-w> Haha, thanks man
[08:02] <lgc> matth-w: no prob.
[08:02] <strayhikari> Tomcat: Gotcha, thanks for the info!
[08:03] <Frogzoo> matth-w: so 'dpkg -l flashplayer-mozilla'  shows the pkg as installed?
[08:03] <matth-w> No packages found matching flashplayer-mozilla.
[08:03] <matth-w> :(
[08:04] <Frogzoo> matth-w: this on breezy?
[08:04] <matth-w> huh?
[08:05] <Frogzoo> matth-w: r u running ubuntu 5.10 = breezy badger
[08:05] <matth-w> Heh... how do I see my version?
[08:06] <bimberi> !version
[08:06] <ubotu> To find out what ubuntu version you have type 'lsb_release -a' or 'cat /etc/issue' in a terminal.
[08:06] <matth-w> Yeah, it's 5.10
[08:06] <carbo> how can i improve playback of .wmv files? its very jerky in mplayer
[08:07] <Frogzoo> matth-w: so use synaptic or apt-get to install the pkg
[08:07] <Frogzoo> matth-w: when you say you installed the flash player, I'm wondering what you actually installed?
[08:07] <matth-w> Well I have it downloaded...
[08:07] <Slackwise> carbo: Recompile mplayer with mmx/see/see2 instructions (/me ducks) :P
[08:07] <matth-w> Or at least I'm pretty sure I do
[08:08] <Frogzoo> matth-w: ah, that's not the way ubuntu does it - ugprades are 99% of the time through aptitude, with synaptic or apt-get as a front end
[08:08] <matth-w> ALright.
[08:08] <carbo> Slackwise: ahhh... alright
[08:09] <Slackwise> carbo: I was joking :P There's probably an easier way. :D
[08:09] <Frogzoo> !tell matth-w about docs
[08:09] <matth-w> Thanks
[08:09] <Frogzoo> yw
[08:09] <matth-w> Alright, yeah I think I got it now...
[08:10] <carbo> Slackwise: i thought so... i've heard about some fixes but i can't remember where... probably to do with the w32codecs or something
[08:10] <strayhikari> ok this is really wierding me out, is dapper rootless?
[08:10] <johanbr> Frogzoo: This is probably nitpicking, but apt-get is not a frontend to aptitude and I don't think synaptic is either.
[08:11] <matth-w> Yay it's working, right on, thanks so much man
[08:11] <Madpilot> johanbr, synaptic is a front end to apt-get, AFAIK
[08:12] <anto9us> strayhikari, yes, use sudo, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[08:12] <johanbr> Madpilot: Right, that's what I thought, that it used apt-get rather than aptitude. I have to say aptitude in itself is quite nice, though.
[08:12] <johanbr> strayhikari: Right, by default dapper doesn't have a root account.
[08:13] <strayhikari> ok, cool was worried for a minute when it wouldn't let me su root
[08:13] <IceTox> hum.. have anyone here tried to install this XPde Environment to ubuntu before?
[08:13] <Killgore> what was all that about
[08:13] <strayhikari> Also, does anyone know how to start network manager in 6.06?
[08:14] <Phlosten^> strayhikari, maybe ask in #ubuntu+1
[08:14] <anto9us> strayhikari, join #ubuntu+1
[08:14] <johanbr> strayhikari: Typing "nm-applet &" in a terminal should get the applet running. There's this bug where it sometimes mysteriously disappears, though.
[08:14] <strayhikari> ok, thanks for the help :)
[08:14] <CNAP> what was all that about?
[08:15] <Frogzoo> johanbr: semantics, there's aptitude the program, and aptitude, the pkg mgt system
[08:15] <stuzz78> number of files in a folder?  can any help?
[08:15] <smb_> anybody knows how to make ubuntu execute mp3's with xmms and not with totem
[08:15] <danMD> Yeah, I sorta have the same question actually. Is there any other media player I can use other than Totem?
[08:15] <GTroy> anyone have any preferences for xmms visualizations?
[08:16] <johanbr> Frogzoo: To the best of my knowledge, the packaging system is not called aptitude. Not that it's important...
[08:16] <IceTox> totem seems to be f***ed up by standard :-)
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[08:16] <danMD> Totem doesn't seem to have the support for many of the filetypes I would like to use
[08:16] <IceTox> bah.. lamers..
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[08:16] <Frogzoo> !ops
[08:16] <ubotu> Help! lilo, hedgemage, lamont, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob or Hobbsee
[08:16] <FlannelKing> +R time...
[08:16] <crimsun> oh lilo...
[08:16] <FlannelKing> heh
[08:16] <binarybeats> hello
[08:16] <Madpilot> no sooner do we unset R, and they're back...
[08:16] <robinl1> ...
[08:17] <Frogzoo> it's a conspiracy
[08:17] <robinl1> ..
[08:17] <robinl1> check the topic there.. it says it's not them flooding all channels
[08:17] <IceTox> maybe it's windows users? *grins*
[08:17] <Frogzoo> robinl1: you just got in then - major spam 1/2 hour ago
[08:17] <robinl1> this is not us who are flooding #gentoo and #perl and #rubyonrails and possibly some others, some loser(s) trying to give this channel a bad reputation | channel is +m until another op wakes up and takes control | sorry for the disruption...
[08:17] <binarybeats> every time I try to boot a ubuntu amd64 live cd, it goes to xdm and appears that the display has torn and locks up.
[08:17] <robinl1> that's the topic :p
[08:18] <Frogzoo> Seveas: while the room is locked, could we have a mesg for newbs that they need to register, pls?
[08:18] <Madpilot> Frogzoo, it's in the /topic
[08:18] <stjepan> how can I see what versions of checkinstall are available for apt-getting?
[08:18] <johanbr> stjepan: apt-cache policy checkinstall
[08:18] <bimberi> stjepan: apt-cache policy checkinstall
[08:18] <kkathman> what was what all about?
[08:19] <IceTox> This Desklets thingie was no fun! How come gnome can't make anything as easy as KDE? Is there any other alike software as karamba for gnome?
[08:19] <Frogzoo> Madpilot: cool, thx
[08:19] <danMD> Hey can you guys see this message?
[08:19] <FlannelKing> nope
[08:19] <Madpilot> dAndy, yes
[08:19] <bimberi> danMD: no :)
[08:19] <Frogzoo> danMD: can't see nuttin
[08:19] <danMD> lol good to know
[08:19] <blindx> "how do i make it so you can see what i say?"
[08:19] <blindx> hahahaha
[08:20] <danMD> Hey i'm completely new to ubuntu, I was wondering is there any media player out there that can play mp4?
[08:20] <spikeb> danMD, rhythmbox
[08:20] <johanbr> danMD: Mplayer can. Probably xine, too.
[08:20] <blindx> I'm going to say this so everyone knows... don't run Photoshop 7 on ubuntu unless you frequently save your work and don't mind doing a cold reboot whenever you do something wrong.
[08:20] <IceTox> danMD, you could download VLC Media Player at www.videolan.org
[08:20] <robinl1> blindx: in wine, crossover, or native binary run? ^^
[08:20] <danMD> oo i was thinking of getting VLC, I didn't think they had a Ubuntu version though
[08:20] <blindx> wine
[08:21] <robinl1> k
[08:21] <robinl1> yesh i know that
[08:21] <spikeb> bah
[08:21] <robinl1> don't run mirc either
[08:21] <robinl1> try it :p
[08:21] <danMD> I know Ubuntu is built off of Debian but I wasn't exactly sure if that version would work
[08:21] <spikeb> the gimp can use PS plugins
[08:21] <blindx> they sure do danMD, it's in the repositories
[08:21] <spikeb> so use the gimp
[08:21] <IceTox> danMD, you should go for the regular tarball package then :-)
[08:21] <blindx> spikeb: i don't like the gimp
[08:21] <bimberi> !info vlc
[08:21] <robinl1> i like it SO MUCH
[08:21] <danMD> lol, sounds good, thanks
[08:21] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[08:21] <spikeb> you don't have to :P
[08:21] <blindx>  :P
[08:21] <robinl1> http://robinl1.deviantart.com
[08:21] <IceTox> Anytime danMD
[08:21] <martynda> danMD: sudo apt-get install vlc
[08:21] <robinl1> check out my GIMP work xD
[08:21] <bimberi> danMD: vlc is in ubuntu's universe repository - you need to enable it ...
[08:22] <blindx> I just can't make it do what I want it to do.
[08:22] <bimberi> !tell danMD about universe
[08:22] <IceTox> bimberi, VLC is on apt-get too?
[08:22] <danMD> ooo i see, nice
[08:22] <danMD> I'll try that thanks
[08:22] <bimberi> IceTox: yep
[08:22] <IceTox> didn't know that bimberi :-)
[08:22] <bimberi> IceTox: :)
[08:23] <IceTox> bah.. lilo stop noticing me... :-P
[08:23] <WarOfAttrition> I'm having an issue with Gimp and a tablet. When I move the tablet cursor over the drawing area, the CPU goes to 100% and stuff gets laggy. Is there some special trick out there to avoid this?
[08:23] <fyrestrtr> WarOfAttrition: other than that, the tablet works? I am thinking you might not have it setup properly.
[08:24] <blindx> robinl1, there's a crossover PS7?
[08:24] <WarOfAttrition> fyrestrtr: yes other than that the tablet works, and other programs don't cause this
[08:24] <blindx> am i running it in wine like a jackass for no reason?
[08:24] <stjepan> does anyone here (except me) get "segmentation fault" error when using checkinstall?
[08:24] <WarOfAttrition> how should the tablet been setup? I've tried everything in the settings of gimp
[08:24] <fyrestrtr> blindx: you have something against gimp?
[08:24] <blindx> I don't like it.
[08:25] <Phlosten> stjepan, if you are using the dapper one it is broken
[08:25] <blindx> Can't get used to it.
[08:25] <fyrestrtr> blindx: ah okay
[08:25] <IceTox> Doesn't Gnome come with any other eyeCandy then this "gDesklets"? It's way harder to understand then KDE's karamba.. :/
[08:25] <blindx> I'm new to linux and all my previous graphicking has been done in photoshop. Things may not seem that different at the surface, but I can't get ANYTHING done in gimp.
[08:26] <stjepan> Phlosten: yes, I'm using dapper
[08:26] <IceTox> blindx, then download wine and run photoshop through Wine :-)
[08:26] <Phlosten> stjepan, you can install the more recent version from the checkinstall website
[08:26] <johanbr> blindx: There's something called gimpshop that's supposed to more closely resemble photoshop. I don't think it's in ubuntu, though.
[08:26] <Frogzoo> blindx: photoshop is more fully featured than gimp - but gimp is free
[08:26] <Madpilot> IceTox, for functional applets, try right-clicking on either panel (top or bottom) and select "Add to Panel" - there's some useful things there
[08:27] <Frogzoo> blindx: what you need to do is to get photoshop running under wine
[08:27] <blindx> Frogzoo: I have it running under wine.
[08:27] <blindx> And I have it for free ;)
[08:27] <Phlosten> blindx, gimpshop is a script that rearranges and renames bits and pieces in the gimp to resemble photoshop more
[08:27] <IceTox> Madpilot, I was more looking for a eye candy tool to get my desktop look better :-)
[08:28] <johanbr>  IceTox: There's a variation on gdesklets called adesklets. Not sure what the difference is.
[08:28] <spikeb> anyone here use gtkpod?
[08:29] <blindx> Is there any utility that anyone knows off that will take a program off the taskbar, and instead give it an icon in the "tray" ?
[08:29] <FlannelKing> IceTox: thats what all the "desktop candy" is.  applets
[08:29] <IceTox> I'll check it out then johanbr :-)
[08:29] <johanbr> blindx: That's not easily done. The system tray and the task list are completely different from a programming point of view.
[08:29] <HedgeMage> question: have a newbie who, during an upgrade from hoary to breezy, didn't accept some of the config file changes he should have.  Are the new versions that he didn't used saved anywhere so we can just move them over?
[08:29] <Absenth> anyone here run the ventrilo server on ubuntu?
[08:30] <IceTox> Yeah, but I simply didn't got that gdesklets program to work properly FlannelKing :-)
[08:30] <DBO> HedgeMage, what config files?
[08:30] <FlannelKing> IceTox: you just apt get it, don't get the -applets or... -data or whatever package.  then run it, and add stuff.
[08:30] <johanbr> HedgeMage: They're called filename.dpkg-new .
[08:30] <blindx> johanbr, how about something else then.. possibly putting certain programs on a seperate panel on the side?
[08:31] <HedgeMage> DBO: I think hardparm.conf is one of them, will attempt to figure out the rest when I have that sorted.
[08:31] <HedgeMage> johanbr: thank you that saves me quite a bit of work (I'm on Dapper so don't know what differences there may be offhand)
[08:31] <johanbr> blindx: That should definitely be doable. Don't know of any such utility offhand, though.
[08:32] <carthik> blindx use http://alltray.sourceforge.net/ maybe
[08:32] <DBO> HedgeMage, Im not 100% sure, but I dont think keeping his old hdparm.conf (provided it was working) would really break anything...
[08:32] <carthik> blindx i used it about 6 months ago last
[08:32] <Sp4rKy> hi guys
[08:33] <DBO> hi Sp4rKy
[08:33] <blindx> that's exactly what i wanted!!
[08:33] <blindx> carthik, you're a god send
[08:33] <HedgeMage> DBO: I'm hoping not... but I want to see what the diffs are
[08:33] <blindx> :D
[08:33] <Sp4rKy> does anyone use swsusp2 and could says me what is the resume2 option
[08:33] <HedgeMage> DBO: easiest way to know if it's the culprit
[08:33] <carthik> blindx, that will be $10 :P
[08:33] <blindx> Can't I just put out?
[08:34] <ppcguy> hey all question.. I hozed my xorg.conf.. Trying to rename and use my backup, but having syntax issues
[08:35] <johanbr> Sp4rKy: It tells susp2 which partition to use for reading/writing the memory image.
[08:35] <blindx> dpkg-deb: `alltray.ubuntu_0.60-1_i386.deb' is not a debian format archive
[08:35] <Frogzoo> ppcguy: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:35] <DBO> HedgeMage, I believe the defaul hdparm.conf that comes with 5.10 is one line of non-commented text, that being "quiet"
[08:35] <blindx> uh.. i clicked the "debian" download link.
[08:35] <Phlosten> how does one clear out broken deb packages,..i had to stop a system update and now I have some corrupted .deb packages
[08:35] <ppcguy> Frogzoo, is that easier than using the backup?
[08:35] <blindx> errr "ubuntu"
[08:35] <Sp4rKy> johanbr, ok , but i've put "resume2=/dev/hdc10" on the kernel line of the menu.lst , hdc10 is my swap
[08:35] <Frogzoo> ppcguy: or just move the backup back in place
[08:36] <Sp4rKy> johanbr, and it doesn't works at startup
[08:36] <HedgeMage> DBO: He had some (unspecified) "tweaks" in the old one... I had no idea what goes in there and wanted an example in case things needed ripping out
[08:36] <blindx> er nevermind. i did save as, it's going through sourceforge
[08:36] <ppcguy> that's what I'm trying to do.. me thinks I'm using the wrong command
[08:36] <johanbr> Sp4rKy: and you're using a custom kernel patched with suspend2?
[08:36] <Frogzoo> ppcguy: 'sudo mv xorg.conf.6786898 xorg.conf'
[08:36] <Sp4rKy> johanbr, yes , <IP_ADDRESS>
[08:36] <ppcguy> let me try that again.. thought that was right
[08:37] <johanbr> Sp4rKy: There should be some suspend2 lines in syslog telling you why it didn't resume.
[08:37] <DBO> HedgeMage, http://pastebin.com/668741 that is unmodified since i got it
[08:37] <blindx> Oh absolutely beautifulllllllllll.
[08:38] <HedgeMage> DBO: good, safe to start ripping stuff out then
[08:38] <Sp4rKy> johanbr, no :( but at the startup of the computer, i've some wrning like "resume2= not set correctly , plesase set t and restart before use swsusp2"
[08:38] <Sp4rKy> johanbr, do you use swsusp2 ?
[08:38] <blindx> now lets see. the only way this could get even more beautiful is if.....  is there anyway I can add a command to the right click menu? (when you right click the taskbar/menubar of a program)
[08:39] <FlannelKing> blindx: yes, but I've forgotten how.  If you look for details about how to re-add the terminal to the right click menu, you'll be able to generalize
[08:39] <Sp4rKy> johanbr, here is the exact line "Apr 19 07:28:47 localhost kernel: [4294667.296000]  Kernel command line: root=/dev/hdc6 ro quiet resume2=/dev/hdc10
[08:39] <Sp4rKy> Apr 19 07:28:47 localhost kernel: [4294670.593000]  Suspend2 2.2.4: Missing or invalid storage location (resume2= parameter). Please correct and rerun lilo (or equivalent) before suspending.
[08:39] <Sp4rKy> "
[08:39] <johanbr> Sp4rKy: I used to. Try resume2=swap:/dev/hdc10 .
[08:39] <Sp4rKy> ok , i'll try
[08:39] <Sp4rKy> on the kernel line ?
[08:40] <johanbr> Sp4rKy: yes
[08:40] <blindx> oh my goodness. carthik, I owe you :P
[08:40] <stjepan> while installing my checkinstalled qemu package, I get this error:
[08:40] <stjepan> dpkg: error processing qemu_0.8.0-1_i386.deb (--install):
[08:40] <stjepan>  trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.15-20-686/modules.usbmap', which is also in package linux-image-2.6.15-20-686
[08:40] <stjepan> how to fix this?
[08:40] <carthik> blindx, glad to see you see that the demand for $10 is well justified.
[08:40] <Sp4rKy> johanbr, i reboot  and i'll come back
[08:41] <carthik> blindx, just kidding, of course
[08:41] <blindx> sure you are.
[08:41] <Frogzoo> stjepan: for dapper support -> #ubuntu+1
[08:41] <johanbr> stjepan: Remove that file before you run the checkinstall. Or, if you're feeling brave, do "dpkg --force all blah.deb". In general, the latter is a bad idea.
[08:44] <Frogzoo> matth-w: you get your flash working?
[08:45] <ppcguy> thanks much frogzoo think all is sorted now
[08:47] <caturOK> hello
[08:47] <caturOK> can i ask some quest here
[08:47] <Tomcat_> !ask
[08:48] <ubotu> Just ask. Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Information like hardware make, model, outputs of commands that you used pasted onto http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl is important.
[08:48] <caturOK> how to my wlan card supported at my ubuntu
[08:48] <Frogzoo> !wifi
[08:48] <caturOK> i mean to configure it
[08:48] <ubotu> from memory, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[08:48] <caturOK> yes
[08:49] <caturOK> i read and i try step by step from u say but not help me full
[08:50] <blindx> what was the name of that program? gimpshop?
[08:50] <blindx> er script
[08:50] <johanbr> yes
[08:50] <bimberi> blindx: yes
[08:50] <blindx> may be worth looking into
[08:50] <blindx> running PS7 under wine, text functionality is out the window :)
[08:50] <Strayhikari> ok I've been trying for days to get this to work and its impossible :(
[08:51] <blindx> meh, I should go to bed. I have english class in the morning that I cannot miss.
[08:51] <fyrestrtr> blindx: maybe you should dual boot
[08:51] <Strayhikari> Coudl someone please help me with setting up wireless?
[08:51] <blindx> fyrestrtr, i don't have the patience.
[08:51] <Frogzoo> !wifi
[08:51] <ubotu> it has been said that wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[08:51] <sobbbber> how will i format an SD card in a card reader (acts as flash disk) in ubuntu?
[08:51] <Strayhikari> I've gone thorugh that
[08:51] <Strayhikari> doesn't help me :(
[08:52] <blindx> Strayhikari, specific problem?
[08:52] <johanbr> blindx: Which morning is it that you cannot miss? :)
[08:52] <blindx> the morning I'm supposed to be having in about 7 hours :)
[08:52] <Strayhikari> My usb prism2 wlan card will not work
[08:52] <Frogzoo> sobbbber: just the usual - fdisk - & mkfs
[08:53] <Strayhikari> it is being detcted in lsusb, the modules are loading (prism2_usb), wireless-tools are installed, but it wont' activate the device for some reason :(
[08:53] <blindx> it won't activate?
[08:53] <sobbbber> Frogzoo: what exactly do i type?.. sorry i'm new w/ these things.
[08:53] <johanbr> Strayhikari: Anything in dmesg just after you load the modules?
[08:53] <Frogzoo> Strayhikari: sure you've got the right device name? it's sometimes wlan0, sometimes eth1 etc.
[08:54] <Strayhikari> well, when I try a command like iwconfig wlan0 Essid myessid it gives me this error,
[08:54] <Frogzoo> Strayhikari: what do you get from 'sudo iwconfig' ?
[08:55] <Strayhikari> "error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A) : SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not permitted
[08:55] <Strayhikari> it says wlan0 has no wireless extentions
[08:55] <Strayhikari> *extensions
[08:55] <Madpilot> need sleep - later, all, don't let the spambots bite :P
[08:56] <blindx> try eth1, Strayhikari
[08:56] <johanbr> Strayhikari: Does ifconfig -a say anything about a wlan0 interface?
[08:57] <pvd2006> only two more months until the next new release of Ubuntu right?
[08:57] <Strayhikari> Johanbr: it says its just another connection with no address MAC or IP
[08:57] <Strayhikari> Blindx: trying
[08:57] <GTroy> hey guys, I'm thinking about a laptop to compliment my dekstop.  for cheap where should I start?
[08:57] <Strayhikari> failed with same error Blindx
[08:57] <GTroy> this maybe offtopic
[08:58] <FlannelKing> GTroy: so, ask in -offtopic ;)
[08:58] <blindx> do a iwconfig, Strayhikari ... anything that doesn't say "no wireless extensions" ?
[08:58] <johanbr> Strayhikari: What *does* it print for wlan0? Is there a line saying "Link encap:" ?
[08:58] <GTroy> FlannelKing: I think I'd get better support here :(
[08:58] <Frogzoo> Strayhikari: radio extensions needs to show up with 'iwconfig' if not, check /var/log/messages for driver problems
[08:58] <fyrestrtr> pvd2006: June 1 is what I hear.
[08:58] <GTroy> and it's not too offtopic
[08:58] <Strayhikari> Blindx: nope all 4 of the connections listed say that (eth0, wlan0, sit0 and loopback)
[08:59] <Frogzoo> g2g
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> GTroy: for cheap, try Dell -- but this does belong in -offtopic
[08:59] <pvd2006> fyrestrtr, cool I heard it's goign to have a lot of improvements
[08:59] <Strayhikari> Johan: Link encap:Ethernet
[08:59] <GTroy> thanks fyrestrtr
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> pvd2006: well you would hope, since its the next version up :)
[08:59] <Strayhikari> Frog: checking
[08:59] <fyrestrtr> pvd2006: its not Windows
[08:59] <pvd2006> ha, yeah
[09:01] <pvd2006> when it gets updated to the new release, do you have to reburn it or can you just update it through the internet?
[09:01] <FlannelKing> pvd2006: internet
[09:01] <pvd2006> thats good.
[09:02] <FlannelKing> pvd2006: it's just like the security updates/etc.  except a lot more packages.
[09:02] <pvd2006> I See. sounds good.
[09:02] <sobbbber> how will i format an SD card in a card reader (acts as flash disk) in ubuntu?
[09:03] <johanbr> Strayhikari: Alright, so you at least have an interface. Does "dmesg |grep -i prism" tell you anything interesting?
[09:03] <sobbbber> help please.. i'm new w/ these things e.
[09:03] <stjepan> do you know any .deb editors?
[09:04] <akonkwa> Can anyone help me trhough installing Java 5.0 on my computer so I can use it with eclipse?
[09:04] <johanbr> sobbbber: You got an answer before: with fdisk and mkfs.
[09:04] <GTroy> what's the ubuntu xgl channel?
[09:04] <bimberi> !xgl
[09:04] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[09:04] <sobbbber> how will i use fdisk and mkfs?
[09:04] <GTroy> thanks bimeri
[09:04] <GTroy> bimberi
[09:04] <Strayhikari> Johan: just that it is loaded
[09:04] <bimberi> GTroy: yw :)
[09:04] <Strayhikari> didn't find any problems in /var/log/message either
[09:04] <blindx> what to do after sudo make install ??
[09:05] <stjepan> what type of archive is .deb? bz2, tar, tar.gz or what?
[09:05] <blindx> it's a deb
[09:05] <pvd2006> its .deb
[09:05] <stjepan> I want to remove one file from my deb
[09:05] <stjepan> I checkinstalled qemu
[09:06] <stjepan> and there's one file which I want to remove
[09:06] <blindx> try opening it with archive manager. no guarantees.
[09:06] <Strayhikari> Anyone have any other ideas?
[09:06] <thoreauputic> stjepan: dpkg -x/destination/directory will uncompress a deb
[09:06] <johanbr> stjepan: It's an ar archive with tar.gz files inside.
[09:06] <thoreauputic> umm - space after -x
[09:06] <stjepan> here's the error:
[09:06] <stjepan> dpkg: error processing qemu_0.8.0-1_i386.deb (--install):
[09:06] <stjepan>  trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.15-20-686/modules.usbmap', which is also in package linux-image-2.6.15-20-686
[09:07] <blindx> can someone help me install gimpshop? :x
[09:07] <thoreauputic> stjepan: I suggest using the script on the qemu wiki page
[09:07] <thoreauputic> !qemu
[09:07] <ubotu> methinks qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo or http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=200357&postcount=1
[09:07] <thoreauputic> hmm
[09:08] <thoreauputic> actually it might be under kqemu
[09:08] <thoreauputic> aha - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KQEmu
[09:10] <thoreauputic> ubotu, kqemu is to install qemu with the non-free kernel module for speed, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KQEmu
[09:10] <ubotu> ...but kqemu is already something else...
[09:10] <thoreauputic> ah OK
[09:10] <thoreauputic> !kqemu
[09:10] <thoreauputic> hmm long factoid...
[09:11] <stjepan> thoreauputic: who's ubotu?
[09:11] <stjepan> is he really a bot?
[09:11] <slavik> the resident AI
[09:11] <thoreauputic> stjepan: a bot
[09:11] <thoreauputic> !ubotu
[09:11] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel except #debian-bots.
[09:11] <stjepan> and he's so smart?
[09:11] <slavik> he is the 10 bn USD culmination into AI research
[09:11] <blindx> ..ubotu is the smartest bot I've ever seen
[09:11] <thoreauputic> stjepan: he only knows what he's told :)
[09:12] <stjepan> thoreauputic: but you told him something and he replied quite well
[09:12] <slavik> blindx is 100bn of AI research ... hence 10x smarter than ubotu
[09:12] <Phlosten> slavik, hope someone claimed it as a tax deduction
[09:12] <slavik> Phlosten: I did :)
[09:12] <thoreauputic> stjepan: yes, he's programmed to say that if the factoid exists
[09:12] <blindx> ubotu's got me beat, please :P
[09:13] <sobbbber> what's the command for delete?
[09:13] <slavik> !me
[09:13] <ubotu> slavik: No idea, try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:13] <slavik> rm?
[09:13] <thoreauputic> stjepan: the script on the kqemu page works well - I used it to install qemu here
[09:13] <valehru> hmm..
[09:14] <stjepan> thoreauputic: didn't work for me
[09:14] <valehru> cannot seem to open synaptic package manager at all..
[09:14] <thoreauputic> sobbbber: delete what?
[09:14] <stjepan> btw, there's a bug with it
[09:14] <valehru> its just not responding
[09:14] <stjepan> you must compile qemu with gcc-3.4 and kqemu with gcc-4.0
[09:14] <thoreauputic> stjepan: not so
[09:14] <valehru> sudo apt-get install azarus ; just asks me for the root password and then does nothing...no output or anything
[09:15] <thoreauputic> stjepan: if you look at the script you'll see that it compile swith gcc-3.4
[09:15] <blindx> azarus? :P
[09:15] <blindx> try azureus
[09:15] <sobbbber> thoreauputic: deleting a file
[09:15] <thoreauputic> stjepan: you must use the same compiler for both kernel and module
[09:15] <stjepan> thoreauputic: yeah, but, kqemu must be compiled with 4.0
[09:15] <blindx> rm file
[09:15] <blake_ubuntu> hi, im building a new system for the new dapper drake comming out
[09:15] <valehru> still nothing blindx
[09:15] <thoreauputic> stjepan: again, no
[09:15] <valehru> valehru@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install azureus
[09:15] <valehru> valehru@ubuntu:~$
[09:15] <blake_ubuntu> i have chose the antec p180 case but i dont know where to go from there
[09:15] <slavik> blake_ubuntu: you can use your old one :D
[09:16] <blake_ubuntu> well...
[09:16] <slavik> blake_ubuntu: Lian PC75 :D
[09:16] <slavik> Athlon FX60
[09:16] <blake_ubuntu> isnt it a memory hog and needs a nice videocard?
[09:16] <blindx> valehru, what happens when you do a sudo apt-get update  ?
[09:16] <slavik> 4GB of RAM
[09:16] <sobbbber> thoreauputic: how about deleting a directory?
[09:16] <blindx> rmdir dirname
[09:16] <valehru> nothing
[09:16] <blake_ubuntu> no
[09:16] <slavik> blake_ubuntu: you are thinking of windows
[09:16] <valehru> no output or anything
[09:16] <blake_ubuntu> a gig of 3200 shoudl be fine
[09:16] <slavik> blake_ubuntu: NO!!!
[09:16] <valehru> just returns back to the promp...no output..
[09:16] <thoreauputic> sobbbber: rmdir if empty, rm -rf if not
[09:17] <blindx> valehru, I haven't a clue.
[09:17] <blake_ubuntu> ?
[09:17] <CypherInc> Whats going on?
[09:17] <slavik> 4GB of OCZ DDR500
[09:17] <thoreauputic> sobbbber: but be careful with rm -rf
[09:17] <slavik> 2 7900GTX in SLI
[09:17] <stjepan> thoreauputic: cd qemu-* && rm /usr/bin/gcc && ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc && make && cd kqemu && make clean && rm /usr/bin/gcc && ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-4.0 /usr/bin/gcc && make && cd .. && checkinstall -y
[09:17] <valehru> go for the OCZ....thats nice RAM
[09:17] <blindx> better off just cleaning the directory first with rm dirname/*
[09:17] <slavik> umm, VAPOCHILL!!!
[09:17] <blake_ubuntu> slavik, that is so dam pointless
[09:17] <hulleye> Hi, need some help setting up a Samsung SCX-4216f printer with Breezy
[09:17] <slavik> what?
[09:17] <blindx> be very very very careful if you go the route of rm -rf
[09:18] <blake_ubuntu> im looking to spend 800 on th system
[09:18] <CypherInc> I have a question, what the hell is Breezy?
[09:18] <blake_ubuntu> not 5000
[09:18] <blindx> lmfao CypherInc
[09:18] <hulleye> as in Ubuntu 5.10
[09:18] <CypherInc> :)
[09:18] <CypherInc> roger :)
[09:18] <abhinav> rs232 programming linux.any idea?
[09:18] <Phlosten> Ubuntu Breezy 5.10
[09:18] <blindx> breezy describes what the wind outside is doing
[09:18] <CypherInc> Sorry, im new to Linux and Ubuntu
[09:19] <CypherInc> I came from FreeBSD, and windows
[09:19] <thoreauputic> stjepan: how can a module compiled with gcc 4 be compatible with a kernel compiled with gcc-3.4 ? genuine question...
[09:19] <slavik> CypherInc: when you find out what 'Breezy" is ... lmk :)
[09:19] <CypherInc> breezy, also the name of a great stripper at this dirty little club around the corner from my old apartment :)
[09:19] <slavik> CypherInc: FreeBSD ftw:D
[09:19] <stjepan> thoreauputic: if I compile it with gcc-3.4, I'll get error with modprobing kqemu: invalid module format
[09:19] <blindx> CypherInc, speaking from very recent experience: ask the question, even if you feel stupid.
[09:19] <slavik> CypherInc: she hot?
[09:20] <slavik> blindx: he did
[09:20] <blindx> in general, slavik
[09:20] <blindx> not just the one
[09:20] <slavik> oh, ok
[09:20] <CypherInc> blind, I find I feel stupid most of the time I spend reading ubuntu stuff, because its all just differnt enough that I have to look/ask :)
[09:20] <BlackBishop> hi people, anyone can help me with a lil' wireless problem ?
[09:20] <thoreauputic> stjepan: well, all I can tell you is that following the wiki and using the script worked fine here
[09:20] <CypherInc> slavik, she was this great little brunet with perky, uhm, assets :)
[09:20] <blindx> !tell BlackBishop about wifi
[09:20] <slavik> was?
[09:20] <slavik> isn't anymore?
[09:20] <CypherInc> well
[09:21] <slavik> where you live?
[09:21] <CypherInc> I havent been in 6 years
[09:21] <slavik> hmm
[09:21] <BlackBishop> I get something about SET failed on device wlan0 ; Argument list too long.
[09:21] <CypherInc> I live outside of Pittsburgh, this was in Chicago
[09:21] <slavik> oh, nvm
[09:21] <blindx> BlackBishop, when trying to do what?
[09:21] <stjepan> thoreauputic: but not for me ;)
[09:21] <thoreauputic> stjepan: evidently
[09:21] <BlackBishop> all I do is iwconfig wlan0 mode managed
[09:21] <thoreauputic> :(
[09:22] <BlackBishop> hmm .. how do I make my key in hex ?
[09:22] <CypherInc> so, I got one for you guys, my buddy is running this really neat web interface for Amarok, is that built into Amarok by default, or is that an addon of some sort?
[09:22] <BlackBishop> I tried copy/paste the text in mceditor and then f4 or f3 to hexify it
[09:22] <blindx> BlackBishop, ever considered using the gui?
[09:22] <slavik> yes
[09:22] <CypherInc> is that like 7? :)
[09:22] <BlackBishop> what guy ? :D
[09:22] <blindx> haha.
[09:22] <slavik> no
[09:22] <blindx> system > administration > networking
[09:23] <slavik> maybe
[09:23] <CypherInc> ok
[09:23] <CypherInc> good
[09:23] <blindx> 2 penny culmination haha
[09:23] <blindx> i like that
[09:23] <slavik> NO!!!
[09:24] <slavik> CypherInc: you believe in god?
[09:24] <CypherInc> Uhm
[09:24] <slavik> yes or no
[09:24] <CypherInc> odd question for a linux room
[09:24] <CypherInc> The quick easy answer is no
[09:24] <slavik> hmm, CypherInc, you sure?
[09:25] <CypherInc> yes
[09:25] <CypherInc> most deffintly
[09:25] <blindx> you're going to hell!
[09:25] <blindx> lol just kidding
[09:25] <slavik> CypherInc: then you're an accident :P
[09:25] <hulleye> blindx or slavik: could anyone here help me out with setting up a printer... am a complete newbie to Ubuntu and the Linux world in general
[09:25] <thoreauputic> guys, religious discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[09:25] <CypherInc> Hey, go to heaven for the view, go to hell for the conversations :)
[09:25] <slavik> we're not discussing religion :P
[09:25] <blindx> lol why do you pick my name? I just started this last week :P
[09:25] <CypherInc> were simply calirifying and verifying :)
[09:25] <thoreauputic> *cough* /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:25] <slavik> yes
[09:26] <hulleye> blindx: you were being nice enough about the wifi prob :)
[09:26] <thoreauputic> just that these sorts of discussions tend to escalate
[09:26] <blake_ubuntu> what is the best amd motherboard?
[09:26] <BlackBishop> hmm .. it's a wpa key ( TKIP )
[09:26] <CypherInc> would not want to get in the way of some one explaining ls again
[09:26] <slavik> hulleye: can't help, I still can't get my printer working through samba
[09:26] <blindx> !printer
[09:26] <ubotu> I guess printer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[09:26] <thoreauputic> CypherInc: heheh
[09:27] <blindx> BlackBishop, there's instructions on how to hook up WPA keys at... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowto
[09:27] <blake_ubuntu> ?
[09:27] <hulleye> blindx: been through those... no help there
[09:27] <BlackBishop> >:)
[09:27] <hulleye> slavik: :(
[09:27] <BlackBishop> why is it https ?
[09:27] <blindx> cause it's secure.
[09:27] <slavik> it's not the realpage
[09:28] <slavik> that page will offer you breast implants and lots of drugs
[09:28] <blindx> mostly drugs.
[09:28] <blindx> sorry hulleye: the only reason i help out the wifi people is cause i had major problems setting up my wifi, so now i know my way around it :P
[09:29] <blindx> but i don't know much about anything else.
[09:29] <Strayhikari> You have any more ideas for me Blind?
[09:29] <hulleye> blindx: ah well... thanks anyway
[09:29] <BlackBishop> :))
[09:29] <blindx> Strayhikari, you have no wireless extensions, right?
[09:30] <Strayhikari> that is what iwconfig says
[09:30] <blindx> Well then the only thing I can think of..
[09:30] <Strayhikari> How do I get them/
[09:30] <blindx> is that your card isn't set up properly.
[09:30] <Strayhikari> you know a way I could configure it/
[09:30] <BlackBishop> it says here : sudo wpa_supplicant -iath0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dmadwifi -w
[09:30] <BlackBishop> I don't use madwifi
[09:30] <blindx> been through the wiki, Strayhikari ?
[09:31] <BlackBishop> or ndiswrapper
[09:31] <BlackBishop> I have a x-micro card
[09:31] <BlackBishop> zd1211
[09:31] <Strayhikari> yessum
[09:31] <Strayhikari> although the wiki doesn't really say much
[09:32] <blindx> the wiki doesn't say much?
[09:32] <blindx> you're not reading it correctly, then
[09:32] <blindx> lol
[09:32] <Strayhikari> just where to get a driver, however for me dapper autodetected and setup my module
[09:32] <blindx> Strayhikari, you're on dapper?
[09:32] <Strayhikari> well I came from archlinux, where the wiki told me which conf files in etc to edit to setup essid and everything on boot line for line
[09:33] <Strayhikari> all the wiki says int eh 'setup' section is to get a driver, and lists some
[09:33] <Strayhikari> yes I'm on 6.06
[09:33] <blindx> have you been toooo #ubuntu+1 ?
[09:33] <BlackBishop> hmm .. -Dzd1211 says Unsupported driver 'zd1211'.
[09:33] <Strayhikari> I'm in ubuntu+1
[09:34] <Strayhikari> Just kind of frustrated, maybe my card is shot :-/
[09:36] <coreid> I have a aironet 350 miniPCI card which is not working with current 2.6.15-20-686 kernel on Dapper, anybody else having similar issues ?
[09:36] <ajmitch> Seveas: as long as you're around to deal with the spambots again
[09:36] <Seveas> ajmitch, yep
[09:36] <slavik> Seveas: yippeee :D
[09:36] <Seveas> I have the +R trigger loaded and ready to fire
[09:37] <Seveas> along with Mr. T's pity blaster
[09:39] <CypherInc> Question: How do I remove the defualt gimp instalation?
[09:40] <Seveas> apt-get remove gimp
[09:40] <CypherInc> anyone use gimp-shop?
[09:40] <Phlosten> i am installing new gimp atm
[09:40] <CypherInc> atm?
[09:41] <CypherInc> oh
[09:41] <CypherInc> disreguard :)
[09:41] <thoreauputic> CypherInc: *someone* must I guess ;-)
[09:41] <slavik> ahh pity da fool who think mr. t only says 'ahh pity da fool'
[09:41] <CypherInc> any great new features in the new gimp, or is it bug fixes?
[09:41] <slavik> Seveas: what is the best way for ubuntu to see more recent packages?
[09:41] <slavik> ie: blender 2.41 instead of 2.37a
[09:42] <slavik> and such
[09:42] <Seveas> !info blender dapper
[09:42] <ubotu> blender: (Very fast and versatile 3D modeller/renderer), section graphics, is optional. Version: 2.41-1ubuntu4 (dapper), Packaged size: 4734 kB, Installed size: 12588 kB
[09:42] <slavik> maybe an anjuta 2.0.1 package?
[09:42] <Seveas> upgrade to dapper
[09:42] <slavik> grr, backports?
[09:42] <slavik> grr
[09:42] <Seveas> breezy will not receive new versions
[09:42] <BlackBishop> DAMN TKIP .. and wpa .. and grrrrrrrrrrrrr
[09:42] <BlackBishop> driving me nuts !!!!
[09:43] <slavik> wifi-radar
[09:43] <ompaul> thoreauputic, good morning
[09:43] <slavik> Seveas: you know if network manager will handle wpa-eap?
[09:43] <BlackBishop> if I specify iwconfig wlan0 key normal_key .. .it said invalid argument
[09:43] <thoreauputic> ompaul: good evening :)
[09:43] <ompaul> !goodmorning
[09:43] <ubotu> Gooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu! It looks like another beautiful ubuntuous day, may humanity be with you and your problems be solved :)
[09:44] <slavik> BlackBishop: use wifi-radar
[09:44] <BlackBishop> if I put it in hex .. it says argument list too long ..
[09:44] <Seveas> slavik, not all eap functionality is there yet
[09:44] <thoreauputic> ompaul: are you responsile for that factoid ? :)
[09:44] <ompaul> no
[09:44] <slavik> Seveas: my college is running eap-pap ...would be nice if it was supported
[09:44] <slavik> !v2000z
[09:44] <Seveas> slavik, I'm using that too - no luck yet with NM
[09:44] <ubotu> [v2000z]  The followng wiki page has some information on fixing problems you might encounter with installing Breezy Badger on the Compaq Presario V2000Z. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/CompaqPresarioV2000Z
[09:45] <slavik> p00p
[09:45] <BlackBishop> and the wpasupplicant says something like .. driver not supported .. zd1211
[09:45] <slavik> because I can't figure out how to config wpa_supplicant and get it running ...
[09:46] <Seveas> slavik, I can give you the wpa_supplicant config for it, works fine here ;)
[09:46] <slavik> but how do I start it and such?
[09:46] <slavik> sure
[09:46] <slavik> want my email?
[09:46] <BlackBishop> I did wpa_passphrase
[09:46] <BlackBishop> it generates the file ..
[09:46] <Seveas> I'll pastebin it, one sec
[09:46] <slavik> I mean, options and such
[09:47] <Seveas> btw, config is dapper specific
[09:47] <slavik> isn't NM a front end for wpa_supplicant, too?
[09:47] <slavik> oh, nvm then
[09:47] <BlackBishop> grrrr ..
[09:47] <Seveas> in breezy wpa_supplicant was integrated quite badly
[09:48] <slavik> I see
[09:48] <BlackBishop> I'm starting to hate ubuntu !
[09:48] <cyphase> does anyone know of any good cross platform astronomy software?
[09:48] <BlackBishop> I'm trying since yesterday to make it work !
[09:48] <slavik> BlackBishop: use wireless connection manager
[09:48] <cyphase> i've already got celestia and stellarium
[09:48] <Seveas> BlackBishop, then try another distro, distrowatch has enough optioins for you
[09:48] <BlackBishop> Seveas, well .. also have a fedora on a lappie ..
[09:48] <BlackBishop> samn freakin' thing !
[09:49] <slavik> like mandriva with urpmi
[09:49] <BlackBishop> NO WAY i'm using mandriva
[09:49] <BlackBishop> it sux .. hard !
[09:49] <slavik> just don't update urpmi with urpmi ...
[09:49] <cyphase> mandriva? it's still named mandriva?
[09:49] <slavik> BlackBishop: that's good ;)
[09:49] <BlackBishop> wpa_supplicant-0.4.8-7.fc5
[09:49] <Seveas> cyphase, it's mandrova, past tense ;)
[09:49] <slavik> rofl
[09:49] <BlackBishop> [root@BooB init.d] # lsmod | grep -i zd
[09:49] <BlackBishop> zd1211                262812  0
[09:50] <cyphase> :D
[09:50] <BlackBishop> my other network works just fine ..
[09:50] <concept10> was anyone else banned from #debian today?
[09:50] <stjepan> anyone here interested in developing a wm?
[09:51] <cge> concept10, why?
[09:51] <Seveas> stjepan, we have enough of those already
[09:51] <stjepan> Seveas: but none of them are ok
[09:51] <stjepan> :P
[09:52] <Seveas> stjepan, then fix one of them ;)
[09:52] <Phlosten> stjepan, develop another distro while you are at it, just to add another one of those too
[09:52] <slavik> stjepan: let's develop a virtual strip club ... there aren't any at all :(
[09:52] <stjepan> Seveas: no, it is better to start developing a new one
[09:52] <stjepan> no
[09:52] <cge> stjepan, have you looked at all of the current ones?
[09:52] <JPapciak> Anyone care to help a complete Linux idiot/newcomer?  I installed Ubuntu last night, had it running, went to Windows to do something, came back and it appears to load correctly, but when it is upposed to reach the desktop, it just goes to a black screen.
[09:52] <Seveas> Phlosten, don't forget the obligatory new text editor
[09:52] <concept10> cge, I was banned for no reason, maybe because of the attacks on freenode.  I havent typed a sentence in there in a couple of weeks.  Xchat just automatically connects to the channel for me
[09:52] <slavik> e17 will be nice supposedly
[09:52] <stjepan> I am sick of all these mousy-wimp WMs
[09:53] <cge> stjepan, try wmii-3
[09:53] <Phlosten> Seveas, indeed, you can never have too many text editors.....
[09:53] <slavik> Seveas: would be nice if changing wm in gnome was easier ...
[09:53] <Seveas> slavik, ./wm --replace
[09:53] <slavik> Seveas: will it keep the system -> prefs link to the new wm config?
[09:54] <BlackBishop> ....  Asking about this in the #ubuntu channel is probably a bad idea. I doubt many people here besides myself use wmii. I would suggest starting from a base like wmii-3 (the development version, which doesn't use all the plan9 stuff), instead of trying to start completely anew.
[09:55] <spikeb> in other words, you want emacs as a window manager
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[09:55] <Seveas> slavik, no idea, I don't use those things because they don't do wpa
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[09:56] <stjepan> SPAM
[09:56] <cge> er
[09:56] <Phlosten> arg
[09:56] <slavik> wow
[09:56] <Seveas> and the f*ers are back
[09:56] <BlackBishop> that's lame
[09:56] <ajmitch> Seveas: nice quick reactions :)
[09:56] <ompaul> Seveas, nice catch
[09:56] <thoreauputic> unimaginative spam at that
[09:56] <Seveas> ajmitch, way too slow
[09:56] <Phlosten> quick shot Seveas to the rescue
[09:56] <stjepan> and it won't be completely new, I will use PyWM base
[09:56] <ajmitch> might be worth leaving it +R for awhile, as annoying as it is
[09:57] <topyli> stjepan: try gnome with gimmie. not wimp, concentrates on objects
[09:57] <slavik> BlackBishop: you in gnome or kde?
[09:57] <BlackBishop> KDE
[09:57] <cge> concept10, I could ask about it on #debian if you want me to.
[09:57] <topyli> stjepan: like jdub puts it, "people, events, documents, and getting laid"
[09:57] <stjepan> topyli: I want to control everything with keyboard only
[09:57] <slavik> BlackBishop: then try kwifimanager
[09:57] <BlackBishop> I am
[09:57] <slavik> I like "getting laid"
[09:57] <slavik> time for me to sleep, night all
[09:57] <concept10> cge, do that for me please
[09:58] <BlackBishop> I click on settings ..
[09:58] <johanbr>  topyli: Exactly what is that supposed to be a list of? :)
[09:58] <topyli> stjepan: you can do it with current window managers. enlightenment(16) and ratpoison at least
[09:58] <BlackBishop> and then on configuration editor
[09:58] <BlackBishop> I click on "Use encryption"
[09:58] <BlackBishop> click on configure
[09:58] <topyli> johanbr: it's a list of things users care about, as opposed to "sindows, icons, menus, and pointers" :)
[09:58] <BlackBishop> and I see .. Key to use "1" Crypto mode ( open shared ) crypto keys 1 2 3 4
[09:58] <stjepan> topyli: they are not good enough
[09:59] <BlackBishop> I only have a normal tkip key .. of 19 chars
[09:59] <topyli> stjepan: improve them
[09:59] <cge> stjepan, I would certainly be interested in seeing any development on it.
[09:59] <stjepan> topyli: I want Python, not C, not C++
[09:59] <johanbr> topyli: "sindows" ? Does that have something to do with the "getting laid" part? :)
[10:00] <stjepan> why python? - because of development speed
[10:00] <Seveas> @reload exploitban
[10:00] <Ubugtu> Error: I tried to send you an empty message.
[10:00] <Seveas> Ubugtu, die!
[10:01] <topyli> johanbr: it just means you shouldn't waste your time fiddling with your user interface. you should just get people, events, objects, and laid
[10:01] <Seveas> #fazlamesai
[10:01] <Seveas> wee
[10:01] <topyli> johanbr: that's why the new experimental interface is called "gimmie"
[10:02] <BlackBishop> ok, should I throw out my computer or not ?
[10:02] <Seveas> BlackBishop, probably
[10:02] <BlackBishop> noone's helping making that damn connection to a TKIP crypted AP
[10:02] <topyli> johanbr, stjepan: but this is #ubuntu-offtopic stuff
[10:02] <hyphenated> BlackBishop: it's a tricky thing to get working perfectly
[10:02] <Seveas> BlackBishop, does your driver do wpa via wext?
[10:02] <BlackBishop> I don't need it to work perfectly ..
[10:03] <BlackBishop> I just want it to work
[10:03] <hyphenated> BlackBishop: it should be easy, but the tools in place these days are oriented around WEP not WPA
[10:03] <Seveas> if not: either use ndiswrapper or use wep
[10:03] <BlackBishop> Seveas, what's wext ?
[10:03] <Seveas> BlackBishop, try -Dwext as argument to wpasupplicant
[10:03] <BlackBishop> can't use wep .. the damn accesspoint is using WPA-PSK ( TKIP )
[10:03] <hyphenated> BlackBishop: what type of wireless card/driver are you using?
[10:04] <Seveas> hyphenated, zd1211 oslt
[10:04] <BlackBishop> ok .. this is weird
[10:04] <fart> where can i download PyGtk-2
[10:04] <BlackBishop> I did wpa_supplicant -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -Dwext -w
[10:04] <BlackBishop> and I don't get any message
[10:04] <BlackBishop> should I be getting any ?
[10:05] <hyphenated> fart: what package manager tool are you using?
[10:05] <fart> synaptic
[10:05] <johanbr> BlackBishop: I'll try to refrain from making a pun on your last message. What does "sudo wpa_cli status" say?
[10:05] <hyphenated> fart: there should be a little 'search' area in it. type in pygtk and see what comes up
[10:06] <BlackBishop> ow :P
[10:06] <fart> cantt find it in search
[10:06] <captainredbeard> I installed the kubuntu-desktop package on ubuntu for a while, but decided to change back, but now all my fonts in ubuntu look different, and won't change back
[10:06] <JediMaster> hi all, quick question, is there an install cd for draper, or is it a matter of installing 5.1 and dist-ugprading?
[10:06] <zF> What command do you use to move files using ftp in term
[10:06] <zF> To move files on the remote machine
[10:06] <cge> JediMaster, a myriad of them.
[10:07] <dli> zF, why not ssh?
[10:07] <JediMaster> cge: where abouts? I couldn't see any on the ofical download page
[10:07] <BlackBishop> selected interface wlan0
[10:07] <spikeb> JediMaster, there's an install cd
[10:07] <BlackBishop> wpa_state scanning
[10:07] <BlackBishop> ip address .. 10.10....
[10:07] <test> hi all
[10:07] <JediMaster> could only find 5.10 ISOs
[10:07] <cge> JediMaster, ubuntu.com/testing.
[10:07] <BlackBishop> hmm .. ok .. I should probably move in a signal area
[10:07] <BlackBishop> wait a sec :)
[10:07] <test> i am downloading 5.10 ubuntu
[10:07] <topyli> fart: apt-cache search shows me pythong-gtk2 and python-gtk2-dev at once. nice nick by the way, could get you banned all by itself
[10:07] <JediMaster> cge: ahh thanks, there appears to be a lot of stuff on the ubuntu site that is useful, yet hiding =)
[10:07] <test> and just was wondering
[10:07] <test> whether it as all the display drivers
[10:08] <spikeb> JediMaster, heh yeah
[10:08] <test> or do i need to install them differently
[10:08] <test> can anyone plz
[10:08] <zF> dli, it's a webhosting server, not my own box. I don't have ssh
[10:08] <test> clear this for me
[10:08] <JediMaster> I presume flight 6 is the latest?
[10:08] <test> plz
[10:08] <zF> is there no command in ftp to move files?
[10:08] <hyphenated> test: it should come with something suitable by default
[10:08] <JediMaster> ok, thanks for your help guys, got to go, on the train to london =)
[10:08] <test> and network drivers as well
[10:08] <spikeb> JediMaster, yes
[10:08] <dli> zF: mv
[10:08] <hyphenated> test: but if you have a 3D graphics card, you may need to do some extra work after installation to enable 3D features
[10:09] <feugan3333> Hi all. Does anyone know how to upgrade python modules on ubuntu? When it try to use the standard "python setup.py install" method, I get the following error message: unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile
[10:09] <JediMaster> and late for work, train derailed this morning lol
[10:09] <test> na, mine is a s3 trio 3d/2x
[10:09] <zF> dli, that's an invalid command while using ftp
[10:09] <test> its relatively old
[10:09] <dli> zF: try lftp
[10:09] <hyphenated> test: it should have drivers for almost everything. boot a live-cd if you can afford the bandwidth and a spare blank CD ;-)
[10:09] <ajmitch> feugan3333: install python2.4-dev
[10:09] <topyli> test: nothing comes with all drivers. ubuntu will have a sane set of drivers to get you going, and you can get more advanced drivers later if you need them
[10:09] <cafuego> feugan3333: Installing unpackaged python stuff isn't  agreat idea.
[10:09] <test> oh ok
[10:09] <ajmitch> feugan3333: iirc it has the necessary stuff for distutils
[10:10] <test> is their any site where i can find drivers or this ver of linux
[10:10] <test> as all i found is win
[10:10] <zF> dli, nothing
[10:10] <test> everywhere
[10:10] <hyphenated> test: try the live cd first, if you're really worried about it
[10:10] <test> ok
[10:10] <BlackBishop> weird .. no signal .. no network ..
[10:10] <hyphenated> test: linux doesn't have the same dependency on driver vendors as windows does
[10:10] <BlackBishop> and I have about 3 networks around ..
[10:10] <dli> test, you type too many enters, try to speak in sentences
[10:10] <johanbr> BlackBishop: Found this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-92327.html . You can ignore everything above the line that says "connecting to an open network", but the rest looks good.
[10:10] <test> thanks very much hyphenated, topyli
[10:10] <topyli> test: on linux, you rarely hunt for drivers or software on the web. you have it all available with a couple of handy commands
[10:11] <feugan3333> cafuego: Why not
[10:11] <test> oh ok
[10:11] <test> may be i need to come back again for this
[10:11] <BlackBishop> ok .. I'm boobling it :D
[10:11] <test> ok its 553 mb done
[10:11] <test> still 130 mb remaining
[10:11] <test> i am downloading 5.10
[10:11] <cafuego> feugan3333: What happens when an upgraded package tries to write a file that suddenly already exists?
[10:11] <wqa8300> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[10:11] <wqa8024> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[10:11] <wqa7722> #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai #fazlamesai
[10:12] <hyphenated> not fast enough, Seveas ;-)
[10:12] <cafuego> wqa*: clever boy
[10:12] <Seveas> hyphenated, faster than a human could be
[10:12] <hyphenated> true. I'm happier that it's just half a screen full now, rather than how it was earlier
[10:13] <dli> Seveas, can you block the string? since this one sends the same string
[10:13] <cafuego> faster than one of your stoned dutch humans maybe ;-)
[10:13] <elkbuntu> topyli, dont, they're seemingly innocent
[10:13] <johanbr> I wish proxad would do something about all the spambots on their network.
[10:13] <elkbuntu> it's as much an attack on them as our eyes
[10:13] <topyli> elkbuntu: the power of repetition is too much
[10:13] <cafuego> elkbuntu: If they don't do anything, their entire network will end up being k-lined.
[10:13] <Seveas> cafuego, don't make me come over to down under and use my cluebat on you :
[10:13] <feugan3333> cafuego: Unfortunetly, I'm not left with much choice, since the current version of the module that I want to use is somewhat broken.
[10:13] <thoreauputic> topyli: the Goebbels effect ?
[10:14] <elkbuntu> cafuego, it's not the channel people's fault
[10:14] <topyli> thoreauputic: yeah :)
[10:14] <cafuego> feugan3333: Which python are you using? 2.3? There may be a python-2.4 package.
[10:14] <BlackBishop> thanks johanbr I'll brb and tell you the results :D
[10:15] <feugan3333> cafuego: No I'm using python 2.4
[10:15] <cafuego> feugan3333: ah ok
[10:15] <blindx> aw man
[10:16] <blindx> i was gonna go to bed two hours ago
[10:16] <blindx> now im never gonna get up in the morning
[10:16] <spikeb> heh blindx
[10:16] <Phlosten> there is that point in the night after you become tired, where you start to become more awake and going to bed is pointless
[10:16] <blindx> not to mention i haven't written any of my essay
[10:16] <concept10> blindx, I said the same thing two hours ago
[10:17] <hyphenated> Phlosten: it passes quickly
[10:17] <concept10> as soon as I finish this css, im gone
[10:17] <blindx> nn all
[10:18] <feugan3333> cafuego: Well I found a workaround :-) Just copy the new package files into the same directory as your script and it will use that package instead of the system package. Anyways thanks for your help.
[10:18] <cafuego> feugan3333: neet :-)
[10:19] <cafuego> Ugh, don't you hate it when OCR software pr0duc35 newspeak?
[10:21] <Seveas> cafuego, you mean 0R
[10:21] <topyli> we need working ocr. it's very sad today
[10:23] <topyli> of course, if the old prints were more readable, ocr would have a bigger chance of success too
[10:25] <BlackBishop> damn wpa .. unsuported module zydas
[10:27] <johanbr> BlackBishop: Well, it's time for me to hit the hay, but if you can't get the native drivers working with wpa, I'd suggest ndiswrapper. That works fine for me.
[10:27] <BlackBishop> does ndiswrapper support zd1211 stuff ?
[10:28] <cyphase> wow, the Google Summer of Code FAQ mentions Ubuntu
[10:29] <cyphase> and python. i guess because they use both :p
[10:29] <johanbr> BlackBishop: According to a quick google, yes. Well, gotta run. Good night, and good luck. :)
[10:29] <BlackBishop> thanks
[10:29] <BlackBishop> seeyah
[10:31] <Overand> Util to convert "DOS" format text files into "Linux" format?
[10:32] <thoreauputic> Overand: sysutils
[10:32] <thoreauputic> dos2unix
[10:32] <thoreauputic> sysutils: usr/bin/dos2unix
[10:32] <zblach> Util to convert "MPC" format music files into "MP3" format?
[10:33] <thoreauputic> !info sysutils
[10:33] <ubotu> sysutils: (Miscellaneous small system utilities.), section utils, is optional. Version: <IP_ADDRESS>.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 40 kB, Installed size: 156 kB
[10:33] <thoreauputic> what is mpc format?
[10:33] <zblach> i'm not entirely sure
[10:33] <zblach> another media encoder, i'm guessing
[10:34] <zblach> it's not a typo, mpc run fine in xmms, but not as mp3
[10:34] <thoreauputic> ah - musepack
[10:34] <nathanj> zblach: http://www.filext.com/detaillist.php?extdetail=mpc
[10:35] <zblach> i can run 'em, but i wouldn't mind putting it on my iPod, which, unfortunately, has very little support for anything other than mp3
[10:35] <zblach> and rockbox is still a little unstable
[10:37] <Overand> thoreauputic: can I get that to recurse directories?
[10:37] <Overand> This is turning out to be a pain
[10:37] <Overand> heh
[10:37] <thoreauputic> Overand: I've never used it - try the man page
[10:38] <thoreauputic> Overand: I found it with  apt-file search dos2unix
[10:38] <noiesmo> hey how can i see how much traffic/ bandwidth a web conection is using
[10:38] <nathanj> zblach: tryed just renaming the file to .mp3?
[10:38] <thoreauputic> noiesmo: iptop perhaps
[10:39] <thoreauputic> sorry iftop
[10:40] <noiesmo> thoreauputic, thanks
[10:42] <Pr0phetiK> Hello! I'm a bit new with Linux..
[10:42] <Pr0phetiK> Could anyone help me troubleshoot something really quick, if it wasn't too much trouble? :(
[10:42] <vinboy> kde channel is getting flooded
[10:42] <noiesmo> thoreauputic, is there a way to get apache to ban an ip address
[10:42] <jadacyrus> if i want cron to run chkrootkit and updatedb I should use root's crontab isntead of my user right?
[10:43] <thoreauputic> noiesmo: don't knw, sorry - why not just use iptables/ firewall ?
[10:43] <noiesmo> jadacyrus, yes
[10:43] <jadacyrus> k cool
[10:43] <noiesmo> thoreauputic, just want to do it temp but iptables could be the go
[10:44] <Pr0phetiK> I just installed Ubuntu 5.10 onto my box (Opteron 170, 2GB DDR, GeForce 7800GT, 2 IDE HDD, 2 DVD, NVRAID), and after the login screen, I get the blank brownish background with a scrambled white box.. does anyone know why?
[10:44] <Henk> noiesmo, look at "deny from"
[10:45] <noiesmo> Henk, yes
[10:47] <purestrain> hello.... can someone tell me what "msttcorefonts is not available in any software channel" means? don't find any way to install msttcorefonts... it's not available in universe either
[10:48] <thoreauputic> !info msttcorefonts
[10:48] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: (Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts), section multiverse/x11, is optional. Version: 1.2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 21 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[10:48] <jadacyrus> purestrain: I think automatix will isntall msttcorefonts for you
[10:48] <Pr0phetiK> I just installed Ubuntu 5.10 onto my box (Opteron 170, 2GB DDR, GeForce 7800GT, 2 IDE HDD, 2 DVD, NVRAID), and after the login screen, I get the blank brownish background with a scrambled white box.. does anyone know why?
[10:48] <thoreauputic> purestrain: msttcorefonts is in multiverse
[10:48] <thoreauputic> !automatix
[10:48] <ubotu> automatix is probably unsafe, it overwrites configuration files, and does things like "echo -e 'y\nY\n'" that are considered risky. Please do not use it. There are alternative applications, such as !easyubuntu.
[10:48] <thoreauputic> DO NOT recommend automatix!
[10:48] <jadacyrus> woops sorry
[10:48] <thoreauputic> !easyubuntu
[10:48] <ubotu> easyubuntu is an easy-to-use program for installing all your favorites. Java, Nvidia/ATI, and more. It is as safe as the team can make it. It doesn't change any settings by default. http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ or #easyubuntu
[10:49] <jadacyrus> i dont use it anyway
[10:49] <geniusvicks> I want to setup a network between my laptop running Win XP and my UBUNTU desktop, how do I do that?
[10:50] <thoreauputic> !samba
[10:50] <ubotu> samba is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/toc.html
[10:50] <thoreauputic> geniusvicks: read the URLs ubotu spat out above
[10:51] <Pr0phetiK> Thanks thoreauputic, I'll check it out..
[10:51] <thoreauputic> :) you're welcome
[10:51] <Pr0phetiK> :D
[10:51] <Pr0phetiK> I hope to get this up and running in a day or so :D
[10:52] <Pr0phetiK> I just realized I haven't had any sleep in 4 days.. I should get some and do this later before I mess something up :D
[10:52] <purestrain> multiverse... thanks, every page i visited told me about "universe"
[10:53] <thoreauputic> !tell purestrain about repos
[10:54] <Pr0phetiK> Ah, so thoreauputic, I should probably boot into the command line and unpack the things I need for my nVidia card..
[10:54] <Pr0phetiK> Hmm.. this is making sense.. I think.
[10:54] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[10:54] <ubotu> [nvidia]  at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:55] <geniusvicks> thoreauputic: those urls are about SAMBA
[10:56] <jadacyrus> wow, easyubuntu installs your video drivers for you too..impressive.. wish i knew about that before i had to do it all myself
[10:56] <thoreauputic> geniusvicks: erm - yes, networking between windows and linux
[10:56] <thoreauputic> geniusvicks: wasn't that what you asked?
[10:56] <Pr0phetiK> Ah, I checked the first nVidia link already. I'd have to get into the desktop to do that method. I'm not able to load the desktop at all, or at least it's messed up/pixelated.
[10:56] <Pr0phetiK> Yah, I'll have to check out easybuntu hehe
[10:57] <BlackBishop> how do I unload a module ?
[10:57] <jadacyrus> actually, theres this nifty install script for the latest nvidia driver i got from ubuntuforums that works like a charm
[10:57] <thoreauputic> BlackBishop: sudo rmmmod <module>
[10:57] <BlackBishop> thanks
[11:00] <stjepan> I have kubuntu installed, but I want ubuntu (with gnome) so I installed ubuntu-desktop... now how to remove KDE? kubuntu-desktop is not installed! :-o
[11:02] <BlackBishop> grrr .. and how do I "delete" a module ?
[11:02] <BlackBishop> it keeps loading if I plug the dongle back
[11:02] <thoreauputic> stjepan: I guess uninstalling kdebase would pretty much do it ( but that's a guess)
[11:04] <thoreauputic> BlackBishop: possibly put it in /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[11:05] <BlackBishop> don't have any hotplug ..
[11:05] <thoreauputic> BlackBishop: are you using breezy ?
[11:05] <thoreauputic> I have that file here on breezy
[11:05] <BlackBishop> I'm trying to make it work on another lappie
[11:05] <geniusvicks> thoreauputic: yes sorrry I thought samba was a linux distribution
[11:05] <BlackBishop> it uses fc
[11:06] <BlackBishop> I still didn't decide to move to ubuntu
[11:06] <thoreauputic> geniusvicks: heh :)
[11:06] <thoreauputic> BlackBishop: then ask in #fedora
[11:06] <P3L|C4N0> !xgl
[11:06] <ubotu> XGL on Ubuntu: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/XglHowto - Join #ubuntu-xgl for all the XGL fun on Ubuntu systems. It works ONLY on dapper. Pretty videos on http://www.novell.com/linux/xglrelease/
[11:08] <thoreauputic> heh, #fedora and #rhel have seen better days it seems
[11:09] <thoreauputic> #redhat used to be huge...
[11:09] <BlackBishop> :)
[11:09] <stjepan> thoreauputic: I removed libqt* and works
[11:09] <thoreauputic> stjepan: yeah, that would do it ")
[11:13] <jordan82> i'm in dire need of help.  i cannot get grub configured.  i'm lost on the subject
[11:13] <C-O-L-T> Tomorrow ships out Ubuntu Dapper Drake RC1?
[11:14] <jordan82> i'm on a live cd rite now
[11:14] <protocol1> hello
[11:14] <jordan82> grub will load, but it boots into a grub console
[11:14] <thoreauputic> protocol1: hello
[11:15] <thoreauputic> protocol1: you got it :)
[11:15] <jordan82> all of my proper devices are listed in the device file to
[11:15] <protocol1> thnaks again
[11:15] <protocol1> thanks*
[11:15] <thoreauputic> :)
[11:16] <thoreauputic> protocol1: you will want to set your password etc in your IRC clinet as well
[11:16] <jordan82> what happened was i installed dapperdrake flight 6 using the espresso installer
[11:16] <thoreauputic> *client
[11:16] <jordan82> and it failed on the grub install, 3 seperate times
[11:17] <jordan82> i haven't been able to boot either windows or the completely installed linux yet
[11:17] <protocol1> hello
[11:17] <thoreauputic> protocol1: yes you still exist
[11:19] <jordan82> so what can i do to manually configure grub?
[11:19] <jordan82> i've got it to the point where it loads the grub console on boot
[11:19] <jordan82> it tells me there's no kernel tho
[11:19] <jordan82> i'm lost
[11:19] <gnomefreak> jordan82: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:20] <jordan82> gnomefreak: thanks!
[11:20] <Pr0phetiK> thoreauputic, quick question, how should I have my disk set up? Swap, and Root are the only needed types right?
[11:21] <jordan82> gnomefreak: i just have to create that file?
[11:21] <thoreauputic> Pr0phetiK: yes
[11:21] <gnomefreak> jordan82: no that file is there already thats the grub config file you wanted
[11:21] <kfarrell> Which TV card easier to set up? MSI TV@nywhere, or DVico Fusion HDTV
[11:21] <thoreauputic> Pr0phetiK: you can have forexample, a separate /home
[11:21] <thoreauputic> Pr0phetiK: but it isn't required
[11:22] <Pr0phetiK> Hmm.. so talking to jadacyrus, it seems that gnome isn't being installed correctly. The system sorda stops on the splash screen right after login.. nothing loads from there, and the mouse is the only active thingy on the screen.
[11:22] <Pr0phetiK> Ah I see
[11:23] <jordan82> gnomefreak: that file wasn't there.  i'm looking for a guide on how to write it .  thankx
[11:25] <Pr0phetiK> Well, it got to the GUI.. login screen.. right after login/authentication, it loads a white screen (presumably splash screen).. but the white screen has like jagged horizontal lines on it, and doesn't load properly. At this point nothing else loads.
[11:26] <jordan82> gnomefreak:  how do i report to the people that want to know?  i know flight 6 is comin near an end tho, but the espresso install did do this whoel fiasco in the first place
[11:27] <thoreauputic> Pr0phetiK: see if you can login using the failsafe option, or do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop , then type startx (that /etc/init.d/gdm stop will drop you out of X suddenly - just a warning)
[11:27] <gnomefreak> jordan82: first off dapper support is in #ubuntu+1 second if grub is installed (i think it is) than that file should be there try it with ' like /sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst'
[11:28] <gnomefreak> make that 'sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[11:28] <gnomefreak> '
[11:30] <jordan82> i'm on a live cd right now.  linux is installed to hda2.   i mounted the drive to /mnt/hda2,  so i use the command 'sudo nautilus' then explore to there
[11:30] <jordan82> and there's no file
[11:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jordan82 abotu grub
[11:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jordan82 -about grub
[11:35] <JediMaster> hi again all, silly question what's the difference between Install to the hard disk and install a server?
[11:35] <JediMaster> is server without X/gdm?
[11:35] <cafuego> pretty much, ues
[11:35] <JediMaster> right, thanks =)
[11:37] <ompaul> JediMaster, and of course it being open you get to choose if you want to put that other part in later, no penalty for making a choice eariler on
[11:38] <JediMaster> =) good
[11:38] <JediMaster> I was going to install debian testing on my machine at work (new job, had to get rid of windows desktop, luckily the servers run debian), but someone suggested ubuntu, so I thought I'd give it a go =)
[11:41] <ompaul> JediMaster, to make your life easier to /msg ubotu root just to get the logic of the sudo command as used in ubuntu - you just don't need root to be set up, if you do expert there is a bug that forces you do setup root, however that can be sorted with reference to that page
[11:41] <ompaul> JediMaster,  this is not the root you were looking for
[11:42] <jordan82> okay i'm about to reboot.  wish me luck.  i'll be coming back in 10-15 if it dont work haha
[11:43] <croesus> propper procedure for installing jre for ubuntu?  Is it an apt cli?  I can't find it with synaptic...
[11:43] <GatoLoko> hi
[11:43] <noiesmo> !tell croesus about jre
[11:44] <noiesmo> !tell croesus about java
[11:46] <JediMaster> ompaul: =)
[11:47] <JediMaster> ompaul: how do you think it will cope with having a second graphics card added to the machine (will be later today, but I'm too impatient to wait for it to come), will I have to manually configure X (not a problem, just takes a bit)?
[11:47] <whiteguysamurai> would they consider including xgl in the next release?
[11:48] <whiteguysamurai> i think it's pretty nifty looking
[11:48] <ompaul> whiteguysamurai, not in its current incantation - its well borked
[11:48] <whiteguysamurai> xlg in general?
[11:48] <ompaul> JediMaster, there are some notes on wiki.ubuntu.com hang about
[11:49] <whiteguysamurai> yeah, and i happen to be one of those noobs.
[11:49] <JediMaster> ompaul: thanks, am I right in thinking the normal install won't set a root password?
[11:49] <whiteguysamurai> however, if it's avilable in the package manager in the future, that would make me most happy.
[11:50] <ompaul> JediMaster, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=dual+monitors&fullsearch=Text this is the way of the search :)
[11:50] <JediMaster> just used to being asked for root and a normal user's password by debian...
[11:50] <JediMaster> lol, thanks
[11:50] <noiesmo> whiteguysamurai, move to dapper and it is but being bleeding edge other things can break
[11:50] <whiteguysamurai> ok, makes sese.
[11:51] <whiteguysamurai> sense*
[11:51] <ompaul> JediMaster, you are correct that is why I sent that instruction, it is disabled by default and we generally find that sudo is your friend sudo command and bang and you never need sudo for cd etc
[11:51] <Doat> i get "Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file." every time i try to run something from the menu that needs the root password. they work when run in the console though. how can i fix this?
[11:52] <ompaul> Doat, sudo command or gksudo - yuou seem to have altered the machine if your not getting gksudo kicking off when you try to run some commands
[11:52] <Doat> well i just installed ubuntu and the menu worked in the beginning
[11:53] <whiteguysamurai> i wonder something, would madwifi be better then using ndiswrapper for my atheros wireless?
[11:53] <Doat> anyway, what should i do?
[11:53] <whiteguysamurai> for some reason, i can never get it working properly
[11:54] <ompaul> Doat, have you used some *helper* software to bring great brokenness to your machine?
[11:54] <Doat> *helper* software??
[11:54] <Doat> i installed sleuthkit + autopsy
[11:54] <ompaul> Doat, this is not the default behaviour of ubuntu, the menus don't stop working for some reason, and root is not enabled by default
[11:55] <Doat> root is not enabled. it's just the menu
[11:56] <Doat> sleuthkit and autopsy are pretty much the only thing i have installed besides the default packages
[11:56] <ompaul> Doat, your menus are not working when you require superuser access ... have not come across this before
[11:56] <Doat> oh
[11:56] <ompaul> Doat, how where they installed from packages or source or something else?
[11:56] <Doat> well for example synpatic asks for a password first and then gives the xauthorization error
[11:57] <GatoLoko> i've seen that in the candidates list is freepascal and somebody was going to try but it has been months without change, and there is nothing in revu so i'm going to try. is preferable to do it for breezy or for dapper?
[11:57] <Doat> with synpatic
[11:57] <ompaul> Doat, and your using your own password for that transaction?
[11:58] <Doat> also i can't install anything anymore. it says disk is full even though i have a 10G partition and have only default stuff and sleuthkit here. maybe sleuthkit fucked things up someway
[11:58] <Doat> yes
[11:58] <ompaul> Doat, we don't curse in this channel, we find it works better :-)
[11:58] <Doat> oh, sorry
[11:59] <ompaul> Doat, the joys of installing software from outside your repos - fire up a terminal and type df in it does it say your hard drive is full?
[12:01] <Doat> yes :/
[12:01] <Doat> i think sleuthkit brought loads of stuff from my windows partitions
[12:01] <ompaul> Doat, I have to do a job but before I go I want to test something with you do this, click on the system menu go to administriation down to synaptic and right click on it, top choice is "add this launcher to panel" do it it may work
[12:02] <Doat> don't work
[12:02] <Doat> it just put a ?-icon on the panel which doesn't work
[12:03] <gnomefreak> good try though ompaul
[12:03] <gnomefreak> Doat: i would get rid of sluethkit asap
[12:03] <ompaul> Doat, now right click on the icon and choose properties thell me what does it say for command line?
[12:04] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:04] <Doat> its blank :)
[12:05] <Doat> "Unnamed"
[12:05] <Doat> on the name field that is
[12:05] <gnomefreak> Doat: try putting gksudo synaptic int he command part? (check with ompaul first please)
[12:05] <selinium> Doat what is sluethkit?
[12:05] <ompaul> sleuthkit: Candidate: 2.00-2 : http://*.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages
[12:05] <ompaul> Doat, there is a version for ubuntu out there
[12:06] <Doat> sleuthkit for ubuntu?
[12:06] <selinium> Doat what part of sleuthkit are you after?
[12:06] <ompaul> Doat, okay something has really broken your menu for whatever reason
[12:06] <gnomefreak> Doat: yes its in universe repo
[12:07] <Doat> i installed sleuthkit with synaptic. shouldn't it automatically get the right version?
[12:08] <ompaul> Doat, okay, I missunderstood what your phrasing was, I took it as you had taken it from some random outside source :-)
[12:08] <Doat> its a tool to view partitions and stuff, i'm not even sure what else :) i tried to recover some files from my formated ntfs partition
[12:08] <selinium> gnomefreak, I thought it might of been a wapstumbler type of thing... but it isn't!
[12:08] <Doat> nope, i used synpatic
[12:08] <ompaul> Doat, that is most likely what is filling up your hard drive
[12:08] <ompaul> Doat, how big is the ntfs drive?
[12:09] <Doat> 10G
[12:09] <Doat> but i also did something with a 160G partition :)
[12:09] <selinium> Doat: clear out you temp files/folders
[12:09] <ompaul> Doat, your in for a big clear out :-)
[12:09] <Doat> maybe i should just remove sleuthkit and autopsy to start with?
[12:09] <selinium> Good start
[12:10] <bina> are there any Audio apps that support DRM in WMAs in linux?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> !wma
[12:10] <ubotu> restricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed there can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[12:10] <gnomefreak> bina: ^^^
[12:10] <ompaul> no you should find where it has dumped all its data, most likely in /home/username/somewhere if you can't remember it
[12:10] <bina> gnomefreak: thanks
[12:10] <gnomefreak> bina: your welsome
[12:13] <ompaul> bina, if you insist on using drm formatted materials you will find yourself in a less free situation, to be honest you survived without them before you could continue to do so, thus rejecting a lockin that some people think is the way to go, those who would restrict your choice do not know what they are doing, see DRM with Sony October last year and EMI DRM in Brazil this year, it is not something you can trust - ever- (sorry about the rant but I th
[12:13] <ompaul> ought you should know)
[12:13] <bina> silly DRM
[12:13] <ompaul> that is putting it very politely
[12:14] <bina> ompaul: yeah
[12:14] <bina> ompaul: i just wanted to get a massive attack track without having to buy the whole album
[12:14] <thoreauputic> fortunately most of the DRM protected stuff is such rubbish I have no use for it anyway....
[12:14] <ompaul> bina, reject the band and tell them why that might help things
[12:15] <ompaul> bina, nothing hurts more than actual customer rejection
[12:15] <bina> ompaul: I really hate stuff like this. Those CDs that mess up your comp when you put them in.  I had to get a paperclip n manually eject the drawer once. evil
[12:15] <Arsonide> Hey has Ubuntu evolved since Hoary, that's what I tried last.
[12:15] <ompaul> bina, so why participate in their little game
[12:16] <thoreauputic> Arsonide: no, the devs have been on long vacation since Hoary
[12:16] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[12:16] <ompaul> Arsonide, quite a lot, one release done and another almost ready
[12:18] <Arsonide> There a major changelist?
[12:18] <Arsonide> I can read
[12:18] <ompaul> its not the distro you saw before
[12:19] <JediMaster> ok, I can report a very smooth very nice install of dapper flight 6, the only thing that went wrong was that it didn't start up the network interface properly on first boot, ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 seems to have fixed it though
[12:19] <ompaul> !dapper
[12:19] <ubotu> Dapper Drake will be the next release of Ubuntu - due June 1 (see: http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq). Join channel #ubuntu+1 for discussion :)
[12:19] <Arsonide> I hope it's not the distro I saw before.
[12:19] <Arsonide> Hoary didn't detect my monitor, I spent 3 hours trying to get the refresh rate to 85. :P
[12:19] <Arsonide> 3 hours of eye bleeding 60 hz
[12:20] <ompaul> !resolution
[12:20] <ubotu> resolution is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:20] <ompaul> Arsonide, and with that I leave you - places to be things to do
[12:21] <JediMaster> ompaul: didn't realise there was a separate channel =)
[12:21] <Arsonide> !changelog
[12:21] <ubotu> Arsonide: What? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:21] <Arsonide> k
[12:21] <Arsonide> :P
[12:21] <Arsonide> !changes
[12:21] <ubotu> Arsonide: Some people juggle geese. Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:22] <Arsonide> Find I'll just find the main site.
[12:22] <Arsonide> Fine*
[12:28] <thomasg_> Which wlan-card (pci) can I use with Ubuntu?
[12:28] <gnomefreak> ubotut ell thomasg_ about hardware
[12:29] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell thomasg_ about hardware
[12:29] <thomasg_> Thank you
[12:33] <Doat> okay the menu works after removing sleuthkit and autopsy and i found the autopsy folder containing 7G of something
[12:40] <Nameeater> is a .tgz file an archive or an install format?
[12:40] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: its an archive file (sotr of like a zip) but installed nowhere near like a zip :(
[12:41] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Nameeater -about tar
[12:41] <Nameeater> is it like a tar.gz file?
[12:41] <gnomefreak> ubotu: tell Nameeater -about compile
[12:41] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: same file
[12:41] <Nameeater> oh ok, thanks for that :)
[12:43] <|lostbyte|> Is there a way to copy a file off a cd and let it skip errors ?
[12:45] <sfar> where can i see how much ram i got installed?
[12:46] <nirmal2cool> issue the command free
[12:46] <nirmal2cool> sfar
[12:46] <sfar> okay
[12:46] <hyphenated> or cat /proc/meminfo
[12:46] <gnomefreak> |lostbyte|: you can try man cp but its not something ive heard of
[12:47] <sfar> yay, it worked
[12:47] <sfar> :)
[12:48] <BlueEagle> |lostbyte|: man dd
[12:48] <Frogzoo> |lostbyte|: if you're desperate, use dd to copy the entire cd, (dd has option to skip errors) then mount the iso image on a loopback
[12:48] <BlueEagle> |lostbyte|: might work.
[12:50] <|lostbyte|> BlueDevil: FrdPrefct: which option am i looking at here ?
[12:51] <mlopes> hi. what's the equivelent to XFree's xf86config in xorg? I know it's bundled in Ubuntu
[12:51] <CraiZE> for those who want to see the dapper beta (new icons and such) : http://www.project-scar.com/CraiZE/Pics/XGL/Screenshot-Dapper-Beta.png
[12:52] <|lostbyte|> ohh // .. i think its noerror..
[12:52] <hyphenated> mlopes: you're probably better off using 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[12:53] <mlopes> I found it to not always work as intended
[12:54] <hyphenated> mlopes: it works fine for 99% of people. it sucks to be in that 1% where it doesn't work fine
[12:54] <mlopes> hyphenated, indeed
[12:54] <mlopes> but unfortunately I was part of the minority :-)
[12:54] <hyphenated> mlopes: I can't find ubuntu's equivalent to xf86config with a cursory apt-cache search attempt
[12:54] <mlopes> I did the same
[12:55] <hyphenated> what's it done wrong anyway?
[12:55] <mlopes> but I know I used one while installing ATi X800 on an ubuntu machine
[12:55] <mlopes> this is not for me, is for a friend who's not being able to detect the Screen
[12:55] <mlopes> I had already suggested dpkg-reconfigure
[12:55] <hyphenated> and he doesn't even get a useable but non-accellerated screen?
[12:55] <mlopes> but still, I'd like to provide him with a plan B :-)
[12:56] <Frogzoo> hyphenated: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:56] <Apostle^> he could try the vesa driver
[12:56] <mlopes> xorg does not even start probably because xorg.config is incorrecty configured
[12:56] <mlopes> he has quite a strange laptop
[12:56] <mlopes> ELITEGROUP GREEN550 in case anyone knows it
[12:56] <Frogzoo> mlopes: it's 'xorg.conf' btw
[12:56] <hyphenated> Frogzoo: nono, xf86config is a binary, not a config file
[12:57] <mlopes> Frogzoo, typo
[12:57] <Frogzoo> hyphenated: oic, then 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[12:57] <hyphenated> Frogzoo: yah, suggested that already ;-)
[12:57] <Frogzoo> k, just ignore me :D
[12:57] <hyphenated> mlopes: sounds like a pretty ugly laptop ;-)
[12:57] <mlopes> :p
[12:58] <ubu_new> I have the same problem
[12:59] <ubu_new> after loading screen write - non supported
[12:59] <ubu_new> and after black screen
[12:59] <ubu_new> where to write  'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' ?
[01:00] <Apostle^> ubu_new: in terminal
[01:00] <C-O-L-T> Tomorrow ships ubuntu rc 1 out?
[01:00] <Apostle^> rc1 ?
[01:00] <ubu_new> Apostle^, how to load the terminal
[01:00] <ubu_new> I have black screen now
[01:00] <Apostle^> ctrl+alt+f2
[01:01] <ubu_new> to do restart and press it during the load?
[01:01] <Apostle^> you can do it when the pc's on
[01:01] <Apostle^> to get a term
[01:02] <ubu_new> I did restart and trying but still no terminal
[01:02] <ubu_new> ah
[01:02] <ubu_new> now there is :)
[01:02] <ubu_new> debian:login:
[01:03] <C-O-L-T> Tomorrow ships Ubuntu Release Candidate 1 out?
[01:04] <ubu_new> I reciving few lines and the last one is /user/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root
[01:04] <ajmitch> C-O-L-T: no, beta release. RC is due in late may
[01:04] <ubu_new> and in the 2nt line- perl: wornning: Setting locale failed
[01:05] <ubu_new> Apostle^, I am on the right way?
[01:05] <PuMpErNiCkEl> ubu_new: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', not just 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[01:05] <C-O-L-T> ajmitch: what is the beta release?
[01:06] <Frogzoo> C-O-L-T: dapper
[01:06] <ubu_new> PuMpErNiCkEl, thanks
[01:06] <PuMpErNiCkEl> ubu_new: np :)
[01:06] <C-O-L-T> ajmitch: there will be no flight 7? just beta's?
[01:06] <C-O-L-T> or how
[01:06] <Frogzoo> C-O-L-T: flight # are betas for dapper
[01:06] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T: after alpha flight 6 comes beta than comes rc
[01:07] <ubu_new> PuMpErNiCkEl, lots of lines running
[01:07] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: thanks guys I understand now
[01:07] <gnomefreak> Frogzoo: flaights are alphas not betas (to get technical)
[01:07] <ubu_new> and 2 before last - Package 'xserver-xorg' is not installed and no info is available
[01:07] <C-O-L-T> What do you think how stable will be teh Beta because I would like to install but once I tried flight 3 but crashed a few times
[01:07] <C-O-L-T> :)
[01:08] <PuMpErNiCkEl> ubu_new: Did you do a server install?
[01:08] <Frogzoo> C-O-L-T: you won't get any guarantees running a beta - stuff can happen
[01:08] <ubu_new> I did the normal installation
[01:08] <ubu_new> I think desktop
[01:08] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T: beta can still break but all the major bugs should be fixed
[01:08] <ubu_new> how it is possible to check what I did?
[01:09] <Frogzoo> C-O-L-T: Dapper releases in 6 weeks, so make your own judgement
[01:09] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: are you on an all black screenw ith white font?
[01:09] <ubu_new> yes
[01:09] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, it is still the trminal
[01:09] <ubu_new> terminal
[01:09] <ubu_new> Frogzoo, dapper will know my screen?
[01:09] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: the black screen fills up the full screen?
[01:09] <C-O-L-T> Frogzoo: I see, I think I will give a shot to the Beta LIVE CD
[01:10] <PuMpErNiCkEl> ubu_new: Sounds more like a server install than a desktop one.
[01:10] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, not sure what you mean
[01:10] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: if you type apt-cache policy ubuntu-desktop does it say installed?
[01:11] <Frogzoo> C-O-L-T: good call
[01:11] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, ubuntu-desktop: installed: 0.3 candidate: 0.3 version table *** 0.3.0
[01:12] <ubu_new> is it ok?
[01:12] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: try typong startx what do you get?
[01:13] <ubu_new> all screen with lines and
[01:13] <ubu_new> fatel server error: server is already active for desplay 0
[01:13] <b0se> hello... i am trying to compile a vanilla kernel with iptables support -- the guide i am following says to enable "IP: fast network address translation" and "IP: use TOS value as routing key", but i couldn't find either of these options....   will iptables still work without these options?
[01:13] <ubu_new> xlib: connetion to ":0.0" refused by server
[01:13] <ubu_new> xlit: invalid MIT-Magic-cookie key
[01:13] <ubu_new> giving up
[01:14] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: type sudo reboot and let it reboot your pc than when you get back here lets see if it starts
[01:14] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, it is doing reboot
[01:14] <ubu_new> to do something during the reboot?
[01:14] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: no but i would like to know why its not starting x
[01:15] <ubu_new> all things loading now
[01:15] <ubu_new> text is ruuning on screen
[01:15] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: what video card is in it?
[01:15] <ubu_new> not sure
[01:15] <ubu_new> and again none supported
[01:15] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: back to tty?
[01:16] <ubu_new> still black screen
[01:16] <gnomefreak> tty= full text screen
[01:16] <ubu_new> ok :)
[01:16] <ubu_new> still black
[01:17] <kevor> Hi, when upgrading to dapper from breezy i run into this problem: www.kev0r.nl/error
[01:18] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and let it find everything automaticlly and when it gives you a list of drivers choose vesa and that restart x after you gone through all of the prompts you should than get a gui log in but it will need to be cahnged more than likely but its a start
[01:19] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, thanks but I did this few times and it is not finding the package
[01:19] <hyphenated> kevor: you probably want to talk to the guys in #ubuntu+1
[01:19] <ubu_new> and now the tt1 is not working :(
[01:19] <kevor> hyphenated: they don't know, besides i'm not yet on ubuntu+1, more like ubuntu+0..1
[01:19] <ubu_new> I have only black screen
[01:20] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[01:20] <kevor> 0.5*
[01:20] <hyphenated> kevor: well, it's a dapper problem, not a breezy one ;-) put your sources.list in a pastebin anyway
[01:21] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: let me know if its gonna install anything
[01:21] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, for now I can not go back to the terminal
[01:21] <kevor> hyphenated: i think it's solved
[01:21] <kevor> thank you
[01:21] <ubu_new> there is only black screen
[01:22] <heiko> i have suspended my ubuntu notebook using that "suspend to disk" thing in the gnome shutdown menu - and now booting leads to different kinds of problem (segfault, hanging), depending on which kernel i use.
[01:22] <heiko> any ideas what i could try? (all kernels in grub lead to various hangs)
[01:22] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: yes black screen with white font? or just black screen?
[01:22] <ubu_new> just black screen
[01:22] <ubu_new> with no option to write anything
[01:22] <hyphenated> kevor: ok. if the solution didn't come from someone in #ubuntu+1, it might be worth mentioning what fixed it in that channel
[01:22] <ubu_new> and I get it after it loading everything and write non supported
[01:23] <kevor> hyphenated: it did come from that channel :) i was being stuborn in my usage of apt-get (aptitude fixxed it)
[01:23] <ubu_new> how it is possible to go to the tremnial during the loading?
[01:23] <hyphenated> kevor: haha sweet. have fun with it :-)
[01:23] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: does hitting ctrl+alt+F1 or F2 or F3 give you a login prompt?
[01:23] <kevor> hyphenated: hope i will :)
[01:24] <ubu_new> gook
[01:24] <ubu_new> ok
[01:24] <ubu_new> I don't know how but I am on the terminal again
[01:24] <ubu_new> so to write  sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop?
[01:24] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: did you use the keys i told you to?
[01:24] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: yes
[01:25] <ubu_new> yes
[01:25] <gnomefreak> you can toggle between 6 ttys
[01:25] <ubu_new> but not sure which one of them did the job
[01:25] <gnomefreak> F1-F6 iirc
[01:25] <beta_m> what do i use as p2p downloader, something that connects to both gnutella and edonkey networks?
[01:25] <beta_m> will xmule do?
[01:26] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: default i think is F2 so it was eitehr F1 or F3 to find out what one yoiu started on use ctrl+alt+F1 or F2 or F3 and look for your screen you have
[01:26] <gnomefreak> had
[01:26] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: is it installing anything?
[01:26] <DarkED> hi
[01:26] <DarkED> i am having a problem with my dependencies i think
[01:27] <DarkED> i am trying to install a package and i get this
[01:27] <lwelyn> I have to screens and a ati card here. how i make both screens on one ati card work ?
[01:27] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, It did the installation good
[01:27] <DarkED> W: Encountered status field in a non-version description
[01:27] <DarkED> or this
[01:27] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: after its done please reboot
[01:27] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, initializing package states... Done
[01:27] <ubu_new> ok
[01:27] <DarkED> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 15921 package `kdemultimedia':
[01:27] <DarkED>  missing version
[01:27] <DarkED> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[01:27] <gnomefreak> if it installs anything
[01:27] <gnomefreak> DarkED: do not paste in here
[01:27] <DarkED> this happens with every package i've tried
[01:27] <gnomefreak> use pastebin
[01:28] <gnomefreak> DarkED: that looks like it could be  astray mark it cant read but that i cant tell you for sure
[01:29] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, back to the none supported screen and later black screen
[01:29] <ubu_new> and now terminal
[01:30] <lwelyn> so nobody can help me with this ?
[01:30] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, so now to write sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[01:31] <bigfoot1> how can i make a screenshot include my mouse pointer?
[01:31] <lool> hi there, is it safe to create Debian kernel packages with make-kpkg under Debian and install them on Ubuntu?
[01:31] <lool> for some reason, dapper's make-kpkg seems to be a bit old in comparison with sid's
[01:32] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: yes try it let me know if you get it or not
[01:32] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1: thats a very very good question
[01:32] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak: but if there's no way, i guess i could just add paste a mouse icon into the image file.
[01:33] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, not installed :-(
[01:33] <gnomefreak> bigfoot1: truthfully I think that is the way to go with it but if you want to wait a while someone might come in that knows for sure
[01:34] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: can you use pastebin and paste the output of lspci please
[01:34] <bigfoot1> gnomefreak: ok
[01:34] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, same messege - package- xserver-xorg' is not...
[01:34] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, it is with computer not connected to the internet yes
[01:35] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: you dont need to be connected to run  that command
[01:35] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, so I am not sure what you mean by pastebin
[01:35] <gnomefreak> oh wait damn nm you need net to use pastebin
[01:36] <ubu_new> why it can not find this package?
[01:36] <ubu_new> is it possibl to copy it from the disk?
[01:37] <ubu_new> possible
[01:37] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: if you were to do that i think stating over from scratch might be an idea i have this feeling something during install got screwed up
[01:37] <ubu_new> I don't mind to do that
[01:37] <gnomefreak> did you get any errors during install?
[01:37] <ubu_new> no
[01:37] <ubu_new> nothing
[01:38] <ubu_new> I read that I need to install with expert mode in order to set up the screen
[01:38] <ubu_new> is that right?
[01:38] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: ok i hate to say this but i would try install again (xorg might have gotten sorrupted or something)
[01:38] <ubu_new> ok
[01:38] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, np
[01:39] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: its a choice but not sure if that will help either
[01:39] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, so what to do in the installation that will change the mode setting?
[01:39] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: if you do try expert mode please write down the video card info from lspci
[01:39] <ubu_new> what is lspci
[01:39] <ubu_new> and where in the expert mode I change the screen settings?
[01:40] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: its a command that shows you info about your hardware (some of it)
[01:40] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: i neer done expert mode
[01:40] <gnomefreak> never*
[01:40] <ubu_new> ok :)
[01:40] <DarkED> hey gnomefreak
[01:40] <ubu_new> I will try it now
[01:40] <gnomefreak> DarkED: ?
[01:41] <DarkED> how would I go about switching my status with my statusold in /var/lib/dpkg/?
[01:41] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, or to do other insatallion?
[01:41] <DarkED> it tried to edit them but it gives access denied, i tried sudo kate and the same :D
[01:41] <WK|Dutchy> is there an msn client here on linux which can show the 'comments'? (i believe those were added in msn 7)
[01:41] <ubu_new> what you think is better?
[01:41] <Hobbsee> WK|Dutchy: they show up in kopete, probably in gaim as well
[01:41] <WK|Dutchy> I dont see em in gaim
[01:42] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: try default install first (my personal opinion)
[01:42] <DarkED> Dutchy: Use koptet
[01:42] <WK|Dutchy> but ill try kopete then
[01:42] <gnomefreak> DarkED: dont know sorry
[01:42] <ubu_new> ok
[01:42] <DarkED> ok thanks
[01:42] <DarkED> kopete* even
[01:42] <ubu_new> so I am doing the defual now
[01:43] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: yeah when the first screen comes up just hit enter
[01:43] <ubu_new> it is already doing the pertition
[01:43] <WK|Dutchy> hmmm wait naturally that k means kde :>
[01:43] <bliss1_> hi folks
[01:44] <gnomefreak> gm bliss1_
[01:44] <WK|Dutchy> ill go try some others then :|
[01:44] <bliss1_> gnomefreak: yep its a good one
[01:44] <gnomefreak> good to hear
[01:44] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, you think it will solve the problem?
[01:45] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: i wish i could say yes to that for sure ubu_new but your problem is not one ive ever run into
[01:45] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: got 0.8.0 installed ok
[01:45] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: how big of a partition is ubuntu going onto?
[01:46] <ubu_new> gnomefreak, not sure now it is already after...
[01:46] <gnomefreak> is it only ps on that hd?
[01:46] <gnomefreak> os*
[01:46] <ubu_new> yes
[01:46] <ubu_new> clean and new
[01:46] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: 10 gig 20 gig?
[01:46] <ubu_new> 80
[01:46] <gnomefreak> oh
[01:46] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm
[01:46] <ubu_new> sorry
[01:46] <gnomefreak> ubu_new: its all good
[01:47] <ubu_new> I just need to find the screeen
[01:47] <ubu_new> screen :)
[01:47] <shinu> insmod: error inserting 'vloopback.ko': -1 Unknown symbol in module <== anyone might know why i am getting this?
[01:50] <DarkED> gnomefreak, i want to tell you i fixed my problem and escaped from dependency hell
[01:51] <DarkED> incase you ever need to fix a dependency problem
[01:51] <slougi> hi all, if I want to request a package to be updated, how does that happen?
[01:51] <DarkED> login as root and go to /var/lib/dpkg/ and delete 'status' and replace it with 'status-old'
[01:51] <DarkED> then all will be well if you reinstall the package it complains about
[01:51] <Kamping_Kaiser> slougi, what package?
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> if its in universe you might want to join -motu and ask them
[01:52] <slougi> Kamping_Kaiser: mercurial. It's currently at 0.7 in universe, but is up to 0.8
[01:52] <slougi> -motu?
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> anyone know how to convert a primary partition to an extended partition
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> ?
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> slougi, ubuntu-motu, where the universe team hang out
[01:52] <DarkED> kaiser: yes, boot into windows, and download partition magic
[01:52] <Kamping_Kaiser> they would know how to ask ;)
[01:52] <slougi> right, thanks
[01:53] <DarkED> thats the only good way i know of doing it
[01:53] <slougi> :)
[01:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> DarkED, in the absence of windows thats not verey helpfull
[01:53] <DarkED> I understand, and I'm sorry...
[01:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> otherwise i woulod have dont it already ;)
[01:53] <DarkED> but thats what I had to do
[01:53] <shinu> Kamping_Kaiser: gparted?
[01:53] <lool> Kamping_Kaiser: you can temper your partition table, use some low level formatting tool such as fdisk or cfdisk and delete the primary partition, create an extended partition on the same boundaries
[01:53] <Kamping_Kaiser> shinu, doesnt seem to do it
[01:53] <gnomefreak> Kamping_Kaiser: what about qtparted or gparted?
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> lool, i *just* recovered this partition, i cant bring myself to delete it :S
[01:54] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:54] <munti78> What is the command to rename a directory in Terminal?
[01:54] <_jason> munti78: mv oldname newname
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> mv
[01:54] <shinu> munti78: mv
[01:54] <lool> Kamping_Kaiser: well deleting it doesn't mean the data it holds is away, deleting the partition just mean removing the entry from the partition table
[01:54] <lool> Kamping_Kaiser: high-level tools would do exactly the same thing
[01:55] <_jason> ubu_new: tell munti78 about cli
[01:55] <_jason> ubotu: tell munti78 about cli
[01:55] <munti78> Great, thanks!
[01:55] <lool> Kamping_Kaiser: the safe way is to dd eg /dev/hda2 to an external hard disk, delete the partition, create a new one and dd the content into it
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> lool, yeh, i might backup and try again
[01:56] <lool> but that requires an external disk
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> i have one handy ;)
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> i borrowed one from work fo rthe purpose
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok, thanks people. i'll have a go then
[01:56] <gnomefreak> goods luck Kamping_Kaiser
[01:57] <bliss1_> Frogzoo: are you in bed
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> ta GnarlyBob
[01:57] <Kamping_Kaiser> * gnomefreak
[02:00] <bliss1_> gnomefreak: i think i have my own channel how do i access it
[02:02] <Hobbsee> mmm...another netsplit?
[02:02] <bliss1_> any one got a script to start kqemu please
[02:03] <bimberi> !kqemu
[02:03] <bimberi> !+kqemu
[02:03] <ubotu> kqemu is, like, totally, a *closed-source* kernel module for speeding up the QEMU virtual machine. To install on breezy, run the insQEMU.sh script available from http://oui.com.br/n/content.php?article.23 More complete install instructions can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KQEmu . See also !qvm86
[02:04] <bliss1_> ubotu ye i know but not the script
[02:04] <ubotu> bliss1_: Huh? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[02:04] <gnomefreak> bliss1_: /j #yourchannelname
[02:04] <duveit> to be blunt, is there any good CD emulation software for ubuntu, like for instance Daemon for windows?
[02:04] <bliss1_> gnomefreak thanks
[02:04] <gnomefreak> bliss1_: if you didnt register your channel it was closed
[02:05] <shinu> why dont i have /dev/video* ?
[02:05] <bliss1_> gnomefreak o ok  no just my nick and password
[02:05] <Kamping_Kaiser> duveit, mount?
[02:06] <shinu> duveit: mount with -o loop
[02:06] <tonyyarusso> duveit: What do you mean?
[02:06] <duveit> Kamping_Kaiser, I just say mount iso?
[02:06] <duveit> anyway, I get the idea, and it seem like the obvious solution of course
[02:06] <tonyyarusso> duveit: It's some options in mount, involves a -o I think, not sure what else, but yeah.
[02:07] <shinu> duveit: mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/iso /mount/point
[02:07] <Kamping_Kaiser> duveit, `sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 /heres/the/iso /heres/the/mount/point`
[02:07] <gnomefreak> mount --help or man mount should tell you what flags to use for what options
[02:08] <duveit> ok, thanks :), just installing apache here, and I needed the cd, which I cant find, so I figured eulating the cd would be easiest
[02:08] <duveit> *emulating (my 'm' key keeps getting stuck )
[02:10] <shinu> how do i check package info with ubotu?
[02:10] <tonyyarusso> !info coreutils
[02:10] <ubotu> coreutils: (The GNU core utilities), section base, is required. Version: 5.2.1-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1028 kB, Installed size: 7536 kB
[02:10] <tonyyarusso> shinu: Like that.
[02:11] <tonyyarusso> shinu: Or, more preferably, /msg ubotu info packagename
[02:11] <shinu> okay
[02:11] <shinu> thanks
[02:12] <DBO> so identify is not spelled indentify... makes talking in here hard if you mess that up... that is all
[02:12] <waylandbill> I can access a windows share fine with smbclient. If I try to mount the share though, i get a mount_data version is not supported error. Anyone know what this is all about?
[02:12] <shinu> anyone know about a ivtv package?
[02:12] <DBO> shinu, yo, what you need?
[02:13] <gnomefreak> bbl need to find passport :(
[02:13] <shinu> DBO: well, i dont have /dev/video* and i think ivtv solves the problem
[02:13] <bliss1_> DBO: must get a packet or a trash can full of that coffee your on
[02:13] <DBO> shinu, yes that would if you have a tv card
[02:14] <DBO> shinu, have you a question?
[02:15] <waylandbill> perhaps I need to specify the workgroup?
[02:16] <shinu> DBO: oh i see.. thanks
[02:17] <DBO> brb
[02:20] <bimberi> waylandbill: do you have smbfs installed?
[02:20] <aryeh> hi
[02:21] <waylandbill> bimberi: omg. no I don't
[02:21] <walden> heya
[02:21] <waylandbill> that explains it.
[02:21] <bimberi> waylandbill: it shouldn't let you try to mount it and is a known issue - https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/31523
[02:22] <aryeh> Hi, Where can I get help on installing Ubuntu?
[02:22] <walden> here, i guess.
[02:22] <walden> you ask and get help. atleast that's what i did when i installed :D
[02:22] <waylandbill> bimberi: yeah. a slightly more descriptive error would've made it easy
[02:22] <aryeh> Thank you, wlden
[02:25] <walden> How often does the artwork on Dapper get updated?
[02:26] <walden> Cos, each time I have upgrated, i've got new stuff
[02:26] <aryeh> I am very frustrated.  After trying five times to install Linux with mandrake and failing, I have just installed Ubuntu *TWICE*
[02:26] <walden> and what happened?
[02:29] <tonyyarusso> aryeh: Can you explain further?
[02:31] <Croperz> aryeh: wouldn't that be satisfying rather than frustrating?
[02:31] <aryeh> after logging into UBUNTU, I get a message "There are 39 updates available".   I ckick and NOTHING happens.  I try <<System->Administration->Synaptic Package Manager>> It used to prompt me for a password and do nothing.  Now it doesn't even bother to prompt me for a password, it IGNORES me.  Any advice?
[02:32] <walden> Hm.
[02:32] <tonyyarusso> aryeh: Probably a busted gksudo.
[02:32] <Tomcat__> aryeh: Try "sudo apt-get upgrade" in a console
[02:32] <tonyyarusso> aryeh: Which installation option did you use?
[02:32] <walden> Open a terminal and type sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[02:33] <_jason> aryeh: if the above doesn't work, paste the output of the 'groups' command
[02:33] <waylandbill> I've seen that happen many times. Usually if I reboot, all is well. A command prompt apt-get usually works though.
[02:33] <tonyyarusso> walden: You need the sudo in front of both, I believe.
[02:33] <phrowzen> anyone know why apt-get upgrade is skipping 'udev'?
[02:33] <Tomcat__> phrowzen: "skipping"?
[02:34] <walden> tonyyarusso: okie.. i've never done it that way though :)
[02:34] <phrowzen> Building dependency tree... Done -- The following packages have been kept back:--  udev -- 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[02:34] <aryeh> For my second installation I chose "expert".  After the "recommended" installation I did not have these problems but for a day and a half I failed to find any IDE that would compile a simple C++ program.
[02:34] <waylandbill> I think it was my clock's skew causing gksudo to return a timestamp to far in future though.
[02:34] <walden> i apt-get update and apt-get upgrade
[02:34] <tonyyarusso> walden: Really?  I could be wrong.  Not sure how sudo takes its arguments.
[02:35] <walden> aryeh: just do the recommended install. then apt-get install build-essential anjuta
[02:35] <bliss1_> hi
[02:35] <tonyyarusso> aryeh: Aaah.
[02:35] <tonyyarusso> !expert
[02:35] <ubotu> No working sudo after expert install? as root: addgroup --system admin; echo "%admin ALL=(ALL) ALL" >> /etc/sudoers && adduser your_normal_username admin
[02:35] <aryeh> How about re-installing not as expert and then asking you to help me compile a C++ "Hello, world!" program?
[02:35] <walden> tonyyarusso: no.. you are correct. you have to issue sudo twice. was saying that i had not done the double command with one sudo myself
[02:35] <tonyyarusso> walden: Oh, gotcha.
[02:36] <walden> aryeh: ok :) do what tonyyarusso said about expert up there.
[02:36] <bliss1_> maybe this is a silly question but i mount hda2 where is the wastebasket to be found
[02:36] <walden> aryeh: then install build-essential and anjuta(which is an IDE)
[02:36] <Tomcat__> blindx: <mountpoint>/.Trash
[02:36] <Tomcat__> blindx: Or maybe <mountpoint>/.Trash-<username>, not sure.
[02:37] <bliss1_> Tomcat ok thanks in .Trash
[02:37] <waylandbill> an IDE might be slight overkill for compiling a simple Hello, World.
[02:37] <Plitskin> uhmm... Hi, I need a little help regarding my touchpad
[02:37] <walden> :]
[02:38] <waylandbill> OTOH, any experience with it helps when you get to the big projects.
[02:38] <Plitskin> I need to disable a feature on my touchpad which is tapping on the touchpad which is similar to clicking the left button mouse... How can I do this?
[02:39] <waylandbill> Plitskin: on a laptop? isn't that so annoying?
[02:39] <walden> what sort of mouse is this? thinkpad?
[02:39] <walden> or synaptics?
[02:39] <walden> you can do all that by adding stuff to your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:40] <tonyyarusso> Thinkpads use a Synaptics touchpad...
[02:41] <walden> apt-get install tpconfig
[02:42] <walden> Plitskin: http://chunghau.tripod.com/mandrake-laptop.html maybe that will work for you.
[02:42] <Plitskin> sorry, I'm using a synaptics touchpad...
[02:42] <Plitskin> walden: thanks for the link, I'll go check it out...
[02:42] <imc1> Need to migrate firefox setings (passwords, cookies, form data, bookmarks) from one machine to another, is it just copying the .mozilla folder to my ~ ?
[02:43] <walden> yeah. that's info for synaptics touchpad. goto the link. install tpconfig
[02:43] <_jason> imc1: you could probably just do ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default , but the whole folder would work too
[02:43] <Jemt> imc1: Yep
[02:44] <imc1> Thanks _jason and Jemt
[02:44] <Jemt> ^^
[02:44] <aryeh> Thank you walden --  sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade is working
[02:45] <walden> umm. do sudo apt-get update then do sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:45] <aryeh> (after I realized there was no space between "apt" and "-get".
[02:46] <walden> heh, ok. it is better to do it in 2 steps anyway.
[02:46] <walden> or try usiing your Synaptics and see if it works fine now.
[02:46] <aryeh> Thank everybody else that gave me their advice!
[02:48] <phatmonkey> what is the best DTP package around? the hardest part of the conversion for most people I know is saying goodbye to MS publisher!
[02:49] <arrick> Morning everyone, how are we today?
[02:49] <_jason> arrick: morning
[02:49] <arrick> hey is there anyone around that has "tweaked" the default server install?
[02:50] <SirKillalot> how can I make my system automaticly dump the memory on a segmention fault?
[02:51] <fyrestrtr> wow, vista really looks nice :D
[02:51] <fyrestrtr> phatmonkey: microsoft publisher?! they still make that?
[02:51] <Doat> it *looks* nice
[02:51] <donza> sure it does.. thats only way they can sell it
[02:51] <Doat> that's where the nice things end i'm guessing
[02:51] <fyrestrtr> c'mon now -- it also has some nice features -- I just got the latest beta from MS to test out.
[02:51] <phatmonkey> yep, and people still use it sadly :P
[02:52] <fyrestrtr> for example -- hella-improved firewall.
[02:52] <donza> i heard that new media player is good?
[02:52] <fyrestrtr> its very good
[02:52] <harfooz> phatmonkey, Scribus is what I use for our dept newsletter.
[02:52] <phatmonkey> yeah, that looked best to me
[02:52] <donza>  i mean i guess even microsoft learns... slowly but anyway learns...
[02:53] <phatmonkey> well, the only thing I could find
[02:53] <fyrestrtr> it doesn't allow you to do stupid stuff as easily as you could in XP.  I've never used MS PUblisher,but I know a lot of people like it. It's very template-driven.
[02:54] <fyrestrtr> actually, windows new profiling tool will only display the eye-candy that your computer can handle (the performance rating).
[02:54] <gUoX> i cant find wlanconfig with kubuntu breezy default installation as server, any idea where to get that ?
[02:54] <waylandbill> unless you're one who pirates windows, then all the eye-candy is disabled... god... that's almost a reason to go that route. ;-)
[02:54] <fyrestrtr> I am really liking it -- the only problem is, that since its so damn new (and so damn beta) half the directx enabled stuff doesn't run in accelerated mode (like games).
[02:54] <harfooz> phatmonkey, I checked out the book Looking Good in Print from the library, and learned scribus through the docs. It's a steep learning curve, but the results are very good.
[02:54] <donza> still i think vista cant beat xgl+compiz ;)
[02:55] <arrick> Dr_Willis you around?
[02:55] <fyrestrtr> waylandbill: yeah I have the Ultimate version -- all eyecandy (plus media center)
[02:55] <phatmonkey> harfooz: I'll look into it later, thanks
[02:55] <arrick> IdleOne, where have you run off to? Philly?
[02:55] <donza> media center is actually very good product
[02:56] <harfooz> gotta scoot. later phatmonkey
[02:56] <phatmonkey> see ya
[02:56] <arrick> MEDIA center is the bomb, I have never used a windows setup that is this good
[02:56] <Plitskin> hi, once tpconfig is installed... do I have to do tpconfig --tapmode=0  everytime I start my computer or not?
[02:56] <phatmonkey> media centre just crashed for me all the time, literally. I couldn't watch anything without it crashing
[02:56] <phatmonkey> hence, mythtv
[02:57] <waylandbill> I don't like in XP that there isn't a 'sudo' like function. Run As just doesn't cut it.
[02:57] <Hobbsee> Seveas: good luck....
[02:57] <Hobbsee> see /topic
[02:57] <Seveas> Hobbsee, is it still hell?
[02:57] <batman> can someone tell me how to fix these errors i'm getting gnome won't start up... http://pastebin.com/669118
[02:57] <Hobbsee> Seveas: i dont know - we've been shielded by that +R
[02:58] <Hobbsee> #kde was getting hit a lot after us..
[02:58] <Seveas> Hobbsee, ubugtu will raise the shields again on the first sign of trouble
[02:58] <Hobbsee> Seveas: oh goody :)
[03:01] <Plitskin> guys... sorry to disturb you... After I ran tpconfig -t=0 I get this message... tpconfig --tapmode=0 fatal: Could not open PS/2 Port [/dev/psaux]
[03:02] <igge> hello
[03:02] <igge> how can i use .srt files in totem?
[03:02] <Doat> lo
[03:02] <ejofee> the small pc (computer case) speaker is /dev/?
[03:03] <Hobbsee> ejofee: ah, /dev/dsp i think
[03:03] <ejofee> Hobbsee: thank you
[03:04] <ejofee> Hobbsee: /dev/dsp seems to refer to the normal speakers
[03:05] <Hobbsee> oh ok
[03:05] <igge> anyone who knows how subtitles work in totem?
[03:05] <igge> please....
[03:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> they appear on the screen
[03:06] <igge> but... how do I make them do that?
[03:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> iirc theres a subtitle reading pack in the repos -  you might want to check
[03:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> tht i dont know :)
[03:06] <Snorre_Ruch> igge: i could never seem to get them to work for me, not with matroska files anyway
[03:07] <stephen_banks> i think you have to load them using something like totem file:///file.avi#subtitle:file.srt
[03:07] <igge> stephen_banks: aha.. will try that..
[03:07] <stephen_banks> okee
[03:07] <arrick> Anyone: Have you optimized your ubuntu server system?
[03:08] <hyphenated> arrick: optimized it for what?
[03:10] <igge> stephen_banks: hm no.. didn't work for me..
[03:11] <stephen_banks> hmm, that's how the totem project page says you do it
[03:11] <igge> maybe it can't find a font or sth..
[03:11] <_kalm> hello... does anyone here have any experience playn games on Steam via WINE.. im thinking of fully migratin to linux and thinking whether its worth it... please tell if you have any info.
[03:11] <arrick> hyphenated, for best operation, as well optimizing the apache2 setup
[03:11] <igge> stephen_banks: do you have a url to that page?
[03:12] <stephen_banks> aye, there might be some sort of extension for totem
[03:12] <hyphenated> arrick: well, those are still really vague terms
[03:12] <stephen_banks> yeh, sure: http://www.gnome.org/projects/totem/
[03:12] <hyphenated> arrick: "best operation" is meaningless without context, such as static content, dynamic content with a database backend, etc
[03:14] <hyphenated> arrick: and in general, optimization is pointless unless you know which part of the system actually needs it. eg: are you CPU-bound or IO-bound, or swapping, or whatnot
[03:15] <patrick52222> ello all
[03:15] <_kalm> hello... does anyone here have any experience playn games on Steam via WINE.. im thinking of fully migratin to linux and thinking whether its worth it... im an occasional gamer and just need those to work, please tell if you have any info.
[03:15] <arrick> hyphenated, I dont know how to tell all that in ubuntu systems, i have only been using it for 2 months now
[03:16] <GiGaHuRtZ> how do i show fps in glxgears?
[03:16] <patrick52222> _kalm not most games work with linux, but if you cant get wine running. you might be able to get cedega working with them
[03:16] <arrick> hyphenated, dr_willis mentioned it to me while I wwas setting up the server a while back, and now I am ready to start messign with that stuff, now that I know the server works
[03:16] <xadonas> sveiki
[03:17] <arrick> hyphenated, you feel like walking me through checking it out?
[03:17] <xadonas> a yra lietuviu
[03:17] <xadonas> ?
[03:17] <hyphenated> arrick: not really, it's pretty late :-)
[03:17] <arrick> English please
[03:17] <arrick> hyphenated, morning for me, I just got up heh
[03:18] <hyphenated> arrick: work out what you need to optimize first though.
[03:18] <arrick> hyphenated, I want the best possible speed for the mutiple websites that I run
[03:19] <PingPong> hi, where can I find the downloaded package files that I get from synaptic package manager on a livecd?
[03:19] <_jason> PingPong: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[03:19] <PingPong> _jason: that's also gonna work on a live cd?
[03:20] <_jason> PingPong: I haven't actually done that on a livecd, but I assume it is the same
[03:20] <patrick52222> im trying to set up a ftp server! can anyone help
[03:20] <arrick> !ftp
[03:20] <_jason> PingPong: what is your end goal?
[03:20] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: vsftpd, proftpd
[03:20] <PingPong> _jason: Thanks found em
[03:20] <arrick> patrick52222, which server?
[03:20] <_kalm> i write the /msg *name* *message* but it doesnt seem to send it... i see it on the screen (to whom i sent it to) >*name*< im a IRC noob, help?
[03:20] <PingPong> _jason: i intend to burn these packages on a cd
[03:21] <ejofee> the small pc (computer case) speaker is /dev/?
[03:21] <patrick52222> arrick: i have installed vsftpd, but what do i do now
[03:21] <_kalm> ps i use xchat
[03:21] <arrick> hang on
[03:21] <phrowzen> _kalm, register to nickserv
[03:21] <PingPong> _jason: i need to transfer these packages to a computer which does not have internet
[03:21] <_jason> PingPong: I see, might want to look into apt-zip
[03:22] <waylandbill> when I mount my samba shares (using the fstab entries) they appear on my desktop. Is there a directive I can put (maybe in the fstab) to prevent that?
[03:22] <thoreauputic> _kalm: if you /msg someone, in xchat for example you see it on the screen, but the recipient gets a new window or tab
[03:22] <PingPong> _jason: once these packages are on there, how do i install them all at once and where do i put em?
[03:22] <thoreauputic> _kalm:  /query will open a new window or tab for you
[03:22] <arrick> hey patrick52222 use this site to help you out then come back with questions http://www.vsftpd.org/
[03:22] <hyphenated> arrick: if you don't know what is limiting the speed, then all you're going to do is change stuff without being able to measure whether it helps or not
[03:22] <thoreauputic> PingPong: erm - synaptic installs stuff automatically
[03:22] <stephen_banks> waylandbill: are you using gnome? because i know that you can change the gconf-editor to stop network shares coming up on the desktop
[03:23] <arrick> hyphenated, ok
[03:23] <patrick52222> ok
[03:23] <chrissis> hi
[03:23] <thoreauputic> PingPong: ah sorry - missed your other post