[20:17] <NeT_DeMoN> excuse me everyone but i have a wireless laptop with an Atheros network driver and it comes up on my drivers list but theres no wireless option on my connections thing :S
[20:17] <linkmaster03> Why do my web browsers always close when I load RuneScape? It does this with Firefox and Epiphany
[20:17] <Dani> ibleed, don't worry i know the backup thing :P but thanks
[20:17] <lopin> NeT_DeMoN: I have a link for you
[20:17] <mooboo1> Doubletwist, wow, god damn.... you got FAST internet
[20:18] <lopin> NeT_DeMoN: Should fix it right up
[20:18] <NeT_DeMoN> lopin: ok
[20:18] <Pici> Doubletwist: mooboo1: Can you please take this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:18] <mooboo1> Doubletwist, you must have 100 mbit upload?
[20:18] <Doubletwist> mooboo1: It's a hosted server. Not my home connection :)
[20:18] <laiya> gord_slater: hardly .. i dont need any more of the software in  there
[20:18] <stuneedhelp> hatte jemand zufällig das problem... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64267/ und es gelöst....? please i need help
[20:18] <Doubletwist> mooboo1: it's a 10mbit connection
[20:18] <gary4gar> !wifi | NeT_DeMoN
[20:18] <ubotu> NeT_DeMoN: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[20:18] <ANTDx1> hmm update started, but it's taking a year to download the files
[20:18] <gord_slater> well, best way is not to describe here, but if for example you google for the phrase "sudo apt-get install" you will find many many examples of how it is used
[20:18] <mrkeishii> man
[20:18] <J_Humphrey> !de | stuneedhelp
[20:18] <ubotu> stuneedhelp: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[20:18] <lopin> gary4gar: He's got an atheros...  Those aren't in wifidoc
[20:18] <VeN0mizer> Will my beta version update to final through "Update manager" when it all comes back up?
[20:18] <excitatory> i was reading about this Zen kernel on the forums and ubuntu wiki..it sounds really good, especially since I'm the experimental type.. however, I was just wondering if this is worth it or even a good idea compared to the newly released hardy kernel?
[20:18] <SeanO> Anyone have a pointer for installing 8.04 under Parallels Workstation 2.2? I think I need a boot flag to get past a crash during the kernel load.  Is this a good channel to ask in?
[20:18] <arooni> i'm looking for a tool that functions like http://www.activewords.com within firefox... i.e. it can turn a few characters of text into several long paragraphs (of common text i usually type to clients that i send within gmail).  is there anything for ubuntu gutsy or firefox that meets the bill?
[20:18] <shameless> ok, update manager's locking up whenever i try to get HH, any suggestions?
[20:18] <mrkeishii> I'm still downloading Hardy Since 10:00am this morning
[20:19] <lch_> VeN0mizer: yes it will
[20:19] <lopin> shameless: We're all in the same boat
[20:19] <Dani> sotap... i haven't and it seems promising
[20:19] <lopin> shameless: Servers are getting hammered!
[20:19] <Stop_It> Good evening all
[20:19] <shameless> lopin: damn
[20:19] <gary4gar> lopin, i didn't have time to read that :p, heavy flood here
[20:19] <VeN0mizer> lch_: thanks ;) And did you get my PM?
[20:19]  * Mimi asks: is it possible to install Taskel in Hardy or not? It's not on the repos
[20:19] <shameless> lopin: should have used torrents, less strain on the main servers
[20:19] <stuneedhelp> ja im deutschsprachigem bekomme ich keine antwort ;-(
[20:19] <lopin> gary4gar: Yes, but they're all about the servers getting thrashed
[20:19] <gord_slater> laiya:its sorts everthing out for you, and adds extras if they are absolutely needed you see, these are called "dependencies", this is one way we avoid the "DLL-hell" that can plague windows, you may have had that sort of thing before ;)
[20:19] <lch_> VeN0mizer: yes and i wrote you back an answer there
[20:20] <VeN0mizer> lch_: darn pidgin...I didn't get it :(
[20:20] <MemoryDump> everybody should be using the torrent link provided in the topic of this channel to obtain 8.04
[20:20] <lopin> NeT_DeMoN: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/atheros-5007eg-with-madwifi-on-i386-platform.html
[20:20] <UltraNav> how do I update from 7.10 to 8.04 via CD ? I only get to synaptic but no further
[20:20] <gary4gar> SeanO, Contact professional support
[20:20] <node357> the only dll hell I've had on Windows is between GIMP and GAIM :P
[20:20] <VeN0mizer> lch_: so was it after or before? lol
[20:20] <Vecnah> hi , is there a problem with archive.ubuntu.com I can't use EnvyNG now
[20:20] <gord_slater> haha me too node
[20:20] <DBautell> To Upgrade from the CD/ISO: run cdromupgrade from the root of the CD/ISO
[20:20] <node357> so I'm not alone hehe
[20:20] <Seveas> Vecnah, hardy was released, everybody is downloading :)
[20:20] <devin_> damn servers probably have smoke rolling off them
[20:20] <lch_> VeN0mizer: it was the date i saw when i started downloading the torrent 2 hours ago
[20:20] <gary4gar> UltraNav, You should have Alternate install CD
[20:20] <Beererde> nice error message, i'm impressed: http://pastebin.com/me18e45a
[20:20] <jimcooncat> We must be amateur support
[20:20] <mon^rch> lol repos jammed :P
[20:20] <laiya> gord_slater: yeah probably ... so how do i update dependencies .. i see ubuntu updating new stuff almost daily ..
[20:21] <VeN0mizer> lch_:  awesome man thanks ;) Sorry for the incessant nagging
[20:21] <shameless> do we know if tablet support is getting integrated in HH?
[20:21] <SeanO> gary4gar, k thx
[20:21] <LordCrimson> one more. I upgraded to ubuntu 8.04. Hal daemon does not start, tells, that it cannot init policykit context
[20:21] <shameless> like, tablet pc, not wacom tablets
[20:21] <gord_slater> laiya: you dont its all taken care of :) thats what the update manage does for you, at regular intervals
[20:21] <devin_> i was wondering why apt-get kept locking up when i was trying to install java =(
[20:21] <gary4gar> LordCrimson, English Only Please
[20:21] <laiya> gord_slater: oh ok
[20:21] <Jessica_lilly> i need help with my RTL8187B
[20:22] <laiya> gord_slater: lots to learn i guess
[20:22] <gord_slater> but to do manually, itrs something like (search google for yourself to learn, its not hard at all)  sudo apt-get update , then sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:22] <chronos> I'm trying to find the netmini ISO of hardy so I can install it on my PPC mac. Where's it at?
[20:22] <mrkeishii> so the more people downloading it the slower the download is????
[20:22] <Stop_It> Well yes
[20:22] <mrkeishii> oh
[20:22] <gord_slater> laiya: those tho phrases basically do what the update manager does daily or so
[20:22] <insane_alien> pretty much
[20:22] <gary4gar> Jessica_lilly, http://danmarner.blogspot.com/2008/01/rtl8187b-linux-native-driver-works-on.html
[20:22] <LordCrimson> gary4gar: HAL daemon cannot start after update. It cannot init policyKit context for some reason... Any ideas?
[20:22] <gord_slater> laiya:two #
[20:23] <DrX> does Linux have an equivalent to Windows ipconfig -all that will show you the DHCP server IP, the DNS server(s) IPs), and the default gateway IP?
[20:23]  * Mimi asks: is it possible to install Taskel in Hardy or not? It's not on the repos
[20:23] <bicz> mrkeishii: try with torrent
[20:23] <gary4gar> LordCrimson, Nopes
[20:23] <khaije> anyone else having difficulties w/ hardy w/ a 8600GT ?
[20:23] <chronos> DrX: ifconfig
[20:23] <mrkeishii> I'm at 85%
[20:23] <mrkeishii> right now on Http
[20:23] <Cpudan80> I found a good mirror :-)
[20:23] <NeT_DeMoN> i still cant find how to make the wireless choice come up in the networks connetions tab
[20:23] <N3WFI3> hello
[20:23] <towlie> if i update from gutsy, would i download the updates from the ubuntu site or are the updates stored on a different/mirror site ?
[20:23] <Cpudan80> 2.5 MB/s :-)
[20:23] <Pici> Mimi: tasksel should be in a base install, no need to instal it
[20:23] <daemon3> Using update manager is virtually impossible right now.
[20:23] <mattl> has anyone seen this? when i click 'upgrade' in update-manager, it just hangs.
[20:23] <khaije> NeT_DeMoN: right click?
[20:23] <N3WFI3> how do i return the text rendering to GUTSY style?
[20:23] <the_corona> hi guys, can anyone help me install the ati driver (im new to linux)?
[20:24] <N3WFI3> its better
[20:24] <daemon3> Maybe we should have named the distro "Hard to get Heron"
[20:24] <Jessica_lilly> thanks for the link
[20:24] <Stop_It> I'm 63% complete (64 bit version)from a Swedish mirror, it raced off at 480KB/S then.....it fell, down to 120KB?s now, ah well, can't wait to see it anyway.
[20:24] <Cpudan80> towlie: You download from the main thing - then run the upgrade tool on the cd
[20:24] <NeT_DeMoN> khaije: what do you mean, right click on what?
[20:24] <jfrench_> I seem to be getting a bug in evolution in hardy. Bug has be submitted.
[20:24] <mattl> daemon3: ho come?
[20:24] <void^> DrX: ifconfig -a && route && cat /etc/resolv.conf
[20:24] <gary4gar> Cpudan80, which mirror, i need it too :D
[20:24] <J_Humphrey> the_corona: what do you need help with?
[20:24] <tigran> Hi
[20:24] <emorris> mattl: that happened to me, killed it and retried, worked fine
[20:24] <Dani> sotap, i did displayconfig-gtk, there i can change the res (And even try it... it works!!) but when i click keep settings, i return to my ugly 800x600 res
[20:24] <towlie> Cpudan80, i dont have a cd and am not downloading one
[20:24] <khaije> NeT_DeMoN: on the networkmanager icon in the system tray
[20:24] <mattl> emorris: killed it a few times.
[20:24] <Cpudan80> gary4gar: It has to do with the fact that I routed my traffic over a privileged network :-/
[20:24] <mrkeishii> If I'm at 85% on Http do i stick with that or should i download the torrent instead???
[20:24] <towlie> Cpudan80, im going thru update manager
[20:24] <daemon3> mattl Did I talk to you earlier today?
[20:24] <the_corona> well i went to hardware, and selected the properitary driver, and then rebootet, and the pc crashed
[20:24] <devin_> can you all ping <IP_ADDRESS> ?
[20:24] <gord_slater> laiya:there really isnt much to learn at all, just slow, easy streps, one thing at a time, that add's to your knowledge. I'd start with apt-get you see, so u can at least install something small and useful "by hand" but still be "automated" - not this isnt what Automatix does!
[20:24] <the_corona> i had to go to recovery and do that x-server thing :-(
[20:24] <emorris> mattl: i might have rebooted, not sure
[20:24] <mattl> daemon3: i don't think so. not in here, certainly.
[20:24] <tigran> I've just finished installing 8.04 desktop, and in restricted drivers nvidia-new just says not enabled all the time. How can I fix this? Thanks.
[20:24] <Stop_It> One question (And it will possibly be no), I have a 360, will I still be able to use ICS to connect both at the same time, and will media sharing work? if both answers are yes I may never use Windows outside of gaming!
[20:24] <the_corona> i want to get the nice desktop effects :-)
[20:24] <gary4gar> Cpudan80, oh i see
[20:25] <xda> does xorg run as suid?
[20:25] <daemon3> mattl:  You're in my class :)
[20:25] <Mimi> Question.... "W: Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24/nvidia-glx-new_169.12+<IP_ADDRESS>-16.34_i386.deb" "  Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (<IP_ADDRESS>), connection timed out"  WAI?!?!?! :P
[20:25] <lch_> lol ask all 1700pl to ping his IP..
[20:25] <DRebellion> xda, i doubt it
[20:25] <mattl> daemon3: your class where?
[20:25] <J_Humphrey> the_corona: let me find a link for you... are you using 8.04 or an ealier edition?
[20:25] <Cpudan80> gary4gar: if you were at my univ I could help you out... but... :-/
[20:25] <grouse704> Hello
[20:25] <daemon3> mattl Never mind them.
[20:25] <daemon3> ...then
[20:25] <jiapian> hi
[20:25] <Pici> Mimi: The mirrors are a bit overloaded, be patient
[20:25] <the_corona> uhmm, the one that was just released :-)
[20:25] <Kcaj> Fun tip: Tab works the same as ENTER when logging in to Ubuntu/Gnome :P lol
[20:25] <guillaume_> Does anyone have the md5sum of the iso from the torrent ?!?!?
[20:25] <gary4gar> Mimi, try another mirror or just wait
[20:25] <laiya> gord_slater: how do i see the list of applications on apt get?
[20:25] <void^> Mimi: servers are overloaded. don't bother upgrading/installing right after a new release comes out.
[20:25] <the_corona> yeah, 8.04 i think
[20:25] <Stop_It> Reply from <IP_ADDRESS>: bytes=32 time=256ms TTL=55 <---Had one dropped ping out of 4 though.
[20:25] <chronos> Does the new Hardy even support PPC and have ppc packages?
[20:25] <Stop_It> packet..
[20:25] <Pici> chronos: no
[20:26] <mattl> daemon3: no, i'm quite far from portland. i'm nearer MIT.
[20:26] <Mimi> void^ understood, but I need these drivers to work.. oh well :)
[20:26] <Flannel> chronos: Not officially, they're community supported
[20:26] <crackbaby> does the do-release-upgrade tool (in server mode) support conversion of Desktop to Server install?
[20:26] <MemoryDump> are the upgrade files on the ISO? I extracted the ISO and I don't see a upgrade folder...
[20:26] <tigran> I've just finished installing 8.04 desktop, and in restricted drivers nvidia-new just says not enabled all the time. How can I fix this? Thanks.
[20:26] <devin_> glad i upgraded to hardy a week ago
[20:26] <mrkeishii> whats the torrent site of 8.04LTS
[20:26] <sotap> Dani: hmm, not sure why that is.  perhaps you can try rebooting
[20:26] <Seveas> chronos, yes, on ports.ubuntu.com
[20:26] <J_Humphrey> the_corona: try this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[20:26] <LockeVendetta> hi does anyone knows if it's possible to install ubuntu on a ps3, but in an external HDD, not the PS3 HDD internal?
[20:26] <Mimi> gary4gar:  how can I select anther mirror?
[20:26] <NeT_DeMoN> khaije: i did that, what does that do?
[20:26] <grouse704> so I downloaded the heron off the ubuntu site, but when I try to run the setup it comes up with an i/o error. Is this a known bug?
[20:26] <gord_slater> laiya:haha, good question, for that its easier to use Synaptic, the GUI package manager - synAPTic, you see, its uses the same stuff behind the scenes :)
[20:26] <DBautell> MemoryDump, I think you need the alternate ISO
[20:26] <Pici> PLEASE TAKE NON SUPPORT CONVERATION TO #UBUNTU-OFFTOPIC - Thanks, The Management
[20:26] <crackbaby> i.e., can I seamlessly switch 6.10Desktop to 8.04 server w/o re-install
[20:26] <Flannel> crackbaby: You'd just remove the GUI stuff after the upgrade, or before.
[20:26] <J_Humphrey> LockeVendetta: have you tried google?
[20:26] <mrkeishii> whats the torrent site of 8.04LTS
[20:26] <emorris> what port(s)  do i need to open for bittorrent?
[20:26] <kittyn-> i downloaded the i386 iso from torrents, and Im already running gutsy, is there a way to upgrade using this iso image? like the same way a dist-upgrade would?
[20:26] <Dani> sotap, and runnig that ap doesn't seem to change my xorg.conf
[20:26] <Slart> mrkeishii: check the topic
[20:26] <MemoryDump> DBautell: DOH!! crappy :(
[20:26] <gary4gar> Mimi, System>admin > Software sources
[20:26] <the_corona> thnx J_Humphrey, reading
[20:26] <mut80r> does anyone know if an MSI 6877 Wireless is supported on Ubuntu 8.04 LTS ? I am replacing a BCM4311 with it because I give up with broadcom and fwcutter
[20:26] <Seveas> kittyn-, no
[20:27] <DBautell> To Upgrade from the CD/ISO: run cdromupgrade from the root of the CD/ISO (I think you need the 'alternate' ISO)
[20:27] <mbarak> hi i'm having a problem with bind/dhcp and ddns, can anyone here help me?
[20:27] <gord_slater> laiya: it should be up on your menu, admin? maybe (sorry I'm on a sad windows box right now)
[20:27] <Dani> gary4gar, how can i get you have a look at my xorg.conf?
[20:27] <DRebellion> Is the page http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading suggesting that apt-get dist-upgrade is now safe, stable and bug-free?
[20:27] <Seveas> DBautell, yes, the alternat can do it :)
[20:27] <khaije> NeT_DeMoN: you are using ubuntu hardy right?
[20:27] <gary4gar> Dani, post it in pastebin
[20:27] <kittyn-> seveas: ok thanks =(
[20:27] <Slart> !pastebin | Dani
[20:27] <ubotu> Dani: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)
[20:27] <jfrench_> kittyn- you could burn the disk then put it in your gutsy install it will upgrade from that
[20:27] <Seveas> DRebellion, better use the update manager
[20:27] <NeT_DeMoN> khaije: yes
[20:27] <N3WFI3> is it firefox text rendering that changed or ubuntu
[20:27] <mbarak> hi i'm having a problem with bind/dhcp and ddns, can anyone here help me?
[20:27] <jimcooncat> mbarak, ask it or try #ubuntu-server
[20:27] <Seveas> DRebellion, (though apt-get never failed me :))
[20:27] <N3WFI3> I WANT THE OLD STYLE BACK
[20:27] <grouse704> installer doesn't seem to work
[20:27] <mbarak> thank you
[20:27] <emorris> what port(s)  do i need to open in the firewall for bittorrent?
[20:27] <Slart> N3WFI3: it's firefox 3.. might be some font thing too
[20:27] <bts3685> mbarak: i was having some dns issues with hardy too.
[20:27] <laiya> gord_slater:  lemme see if i can figure it out
[20:27] <kittyn-> jfrench_: thanks!
[20:27] <khaije> NeT_DeMoN: i'm not 100% sure since i'm using kubuntu
[20:27] <N3WFI3> oh
[20:28] <Seveas> N3WFI3, leave the caps on the doorstep please
[20:28] <DRebellion> Seveas, excellent, saves me having to download the cd :)
[20:28] <bts3685> mbarak: mind if i mvt msg?
[20:28] <NeT_DeMoN> khaije: i found the "edit wireless connections"
[20:28] <N3WFI3> i dont like firefox3 text rendering :(
[20:28] <the_corona> J_Humphrey:  i did that, but after reboot it just......stays black and crashed....even tried the one from ati.com :-(
[20:28] <Slart> emorris: configurable in the client.. I think default is 6801 or something like that
[20:28] <NeT_DeMoN> khaije1: yes
[20:28] <towlie> has anyone here installed hardy on a laptop ?
[20:28] <bts3685> s/mvt/pvt
[20:28] <N3WFI3> anyone know how to get back the old style
[20:28] <mut80r> towlie: yes
[20:28] <dystopianray> towlie: i have
[20:28] <Seveas> !anyone | towlie
[20:28] <ubotu> towlie: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[20:28] <sotap> Dani: that sounds like a bug
[20:28] <Slart> towlie: I tried the live cd on one
[20:28] <faemir> Is it possible to upgrade to 8.04 using the cd? I'm having problems with the update manager
[20:28] <grouse704> @towlie: no, tried but failed
[20:28] <mbarak> o, the dns works just fine, its integrating the dynamic update that i'm having trouble with
[20:28] <salkot> N3WFI3, try #firefox
[20:28] <bts3685> khaije1:
[20:28] <gary4gar> towlie, many of us, shoot your question
[20:28] <towlie> ok have the problems with sleeping in gutsy been fixed in hardy ?
[20:28] <DBautell> faemir, To Upgrade from the CD/ISO, you'll need the alternate ISO: run cdromupgrade from the root of the CD/ISO
[20:28] <towlie> err
[20:28] <dystopianray> towlie: i had a minor sleep related issue that was fixed
[20:28] <J_Humphrey> the_corona: heres another link that shold work:
[20:28] <DRebellion> towlie, depends on your hardware.
[20:28] <J_Humphrey> http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide
[20:29] <vaughn> towlie, sleeping seems to work for me now in Hardy
[20:29] <towlie> DRebellion, a macbook pro
[20:29] <J_Humphrey> the_corona: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Hardy_Installation_Guide
[20:29] <Slart> towlie: have no idea.. I played with it constantly.. didn't give it time to sleep =)
[20:29] <dystopianray> towlie: my laptop would suspend again after it woke up from the initial suspend, that no longer happens
[20:29] <gfxstyler> hello
[20:29] <mheath> towlie: There are many different problems effecting lseeping; many are hardware related. What was your issue?
[20:29] <gary4gar> towlie, can't you sleep?, go to doctor then :p
[20:29] <gfxstyler> is there a way to "blacklist" kernel modules on boot?
[20:29] <faemir> DBautell, darn it, that isn't possible with the livecd is it? :(
[20:29] <N3WFI3> ok thanks
[20:29] <gfxstyler> because the hardy livecd wont let me boot :/
[20:29] <Jomatam> Hi  how to change screen resolution to 1280 1024
[20:29] <faemir> And woah, talk about a lot of torrent seeders :D
[20:29] <dystopianray> gfxstyler: check out /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[20:29] <mheath> gary4gar: not helpful, given how busy this channel is. Might be better to wait a bit for the jokes :-)
[20:29] <Beererde> DBautell: cdromupgrade does NOT work
[20:30] <gfxstyler> dystopianray: you're funny :) i can't access that one cause it's a livecd and hangs at boot
[20:30] <faemir> Jomatam, system > preferences > screen resolution
[20:30] <DBautell> faemir, I just read up on it myself, and they say you need the alternate... Waiting for my torrent to finish
[20:30] <Beererde> DBautell: http://pastebin.com/me18e45a
[20:30] <the_corona> puhh....kinda complicated...ill try though, thnx J_Humphrey
[20:30] <savetheWorld> DrX: look in /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient-eth1.leases or /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient-eth0.leases   depending on which interface you want to know
[20:30] <tigran> Whats the nvidia driver package name for 8.04?
[20:30] <DBautell> thanks, Beererde
[20:30] <Dani> gary4gar, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64269/ that's my xorg.conf
[20:30] <faemir> DBautell, ok, I just finished my livecd torrent, was downloading at ~300kbps so hopefully this will as well ;)
[20:30] <^^malajenho^> wenas
[20:30] <mheath> tigran: Its easiest to just use the restricted drivers manager.
[20:30] <Jomatam> Resolution    there is no 1280 1024, just 1280 800
[20:30] <gaurav__> how do i upgrade to 8.04 from the beta? my gdm login prompt still does not come up which was a bug i had since upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04 beta.
[20:30] <gfxstyler> dystopianray: i want to install ubuntu but it always hangs at boot "Loading Hardware Drivers" and the last entry is "b43legacy-phy0 found"
[20:30] <J_Humphrey> the_corona: it looks complicated, but if you just copy and paste all the commands, its not that bad, I did it for the previous release, without knowing anything about linux
[20:30] <Beererde> DBautell: but now we need another solution
[20:30] <mheath> tigran: Go to System->Administration->Hardware Drivers
[20:30] <gord_slater> laiya: i'm a bit linux-limited right now (win-only here) due to work, everything gotta come from memory, I'm just in here to lend a hand since it's so busy today. as an example try a synaptic search for "chess" and you should find a couple of games that you could install, i think
[20:31] <bcnaat> mheath: where are the restricted drivers in hardy?
[20:31] <gangsterlicious> stop downloadin the isos, you are slowing the internet
[20:31] <dystopianray> gfxstyler: i think there might be a way to specify modules to blacklist as a kernel argument, but not i'm not sure exactly
[20:31] <towlie> does anyone here have a macbook pro with hardy heron  ?
[20:31] <mheath> bcnaat: Go to system->adminstration->Hardware Drivers
[20:31] <gaurav__> sorry, i meant to add, how do i upgrade from the terminal, seeing as i can't login through gdm
[20:31] <ois> In ubuntu 7.10 I got the Keyboard Shortcuts open. How do I unbind a shortcut key without assigning a new key (like the Delete key which is getting annoying ^_^;; )
[20:31] <tigran> mheath: Yea, well, the restricted driver says thats its enabled (nvidia_new) but under status it says not in use
[20:31] <^^malajenho^> acabo de instalar hardy heron y quiero hacer funcionar mi adaptador wireless Broadcom, cuando utilizo bcm43xx-fwcutter para pasarle el firmware mediante " bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware ~/Desktop/wl_apsta.o" me dice q no puede abrir el archivo wl_apsta.o
[20:31] <^^malajenho^> a k se puede deber?
[20:31] <DBautell> Beererde, for real, I want FF3
[20:31] <mut80r> gaurav__: sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:31] <KyleK> gaurav__: if you're already on 8.04 cant you just apt-get upgrade?
[20:31] <gary4gar> Dani, checking
[20:31] <tigran> mheath: I restarted and its the same thing
[20:31] <khaije1> !es
[20:31] <ubotu> Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[20:31] <bcnaat> mheath: went there, shows no drivers or hardware listings
[20:31] <gfxstyler> dystopianray: this problem does only appear with a 2.6.24 kernel, 2.6.22 worked fine
[20:31] <krappe> !fr
[20:31] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[20:32] <dystopianray> gfxstyler: what is the actual problem?
[20:32] <mheath> bcnaat: what drivers are you trying to install? For what hardware?
[20:32] <J_Humphrey> laiya, if you want an easier way to download more popular programs, go to the applications menu, and go to add/remove programs, and search to your hearts content
[20:32] <gord_slater> laiya: synaptic will sort out all the dependencies for you, and install whatever you tick. if you decide to remove software, you can do that too, so u can take control of your machine more easily.
[20:32] <laiya> gord_slater: i did just that instead im getting pacman .. its been a long time i played that
[20:32] <Jomatam> resolution    I tried that xorg code, but I dont see resolutions there
[20:32] <Dani> gary4gar, thanks a lot, if i want to activate nvidia i just add Driver "nvidia" to the device section, but as i said... it work at 640x480 at max
[20:32] <gaurav__> mut80r + KyleK: i have tried, some stuff today was upgraded, however i have 53 packages "not upgraded" from beta
[20:32] <bcnaat> mheath: for sound, someone mentioned checking there to see if my driver was restricted
[20:32] <gfxstyler> dystopianray: i insert the livecd to install hardy, it boots but hangs at "Loading Hardware Drivers...", booting without splash-screen says it hangs at "b43legacy-phy0: found blablabla" so i guess it's some kind of related to that one
[20:32] <khaije1> krappe: that was totally spanich
[20:32] <khaije1> *spanish
[20:33] <akorn> Anybody know why i can't update to 8.04...i'm running 64 bit version...
[20:33] <bcnaat> I get system sounds, but no playback on anything - websites, cd etc
[20:33] <N3WFI3> bah the text rendering is so annoying
[20:33] <mheath> bcnaat: only a few sound drivers are restricted.
[20:33] <akorn> tried several servers and none of them are working for 64 bit
[20:33] <N3WFI3> anyway to downgrade back to old firefox?
[20:33] <gord_slater> laiya: and J_Humphrey: yeah good point J, the add/remove sopftware is a similar but cut-down version of synaptic
[20:33] <krappe> khaije1, I know.  I just wanted to know the french channel name.  I'm french.
[20:33] <Jack_Sparrow> laiya, if you like old arcade games check into xmame and roms which are available from all over.
[20:33] <gfxstyler> dystopianray: i already tried all the boot command stuff thingies like acpi=off, noapic, nolapic and so on
[20:33] <dystopianray> gfxstyler: looks like an issue with your wireless card
[20:33] <^^malajenho^> hi, I've installed hardy heron. I want to use my wifi BROADCOM with bcm43xx-fwcutter, but I obtain this error: bcm43xx-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware ~/Desktop/wl_apsta.o --->Cannot open input file /home/juanchi/Desktop/wl_apsta.o
[20:33] <mheath> bcnaat: System sounds being.....crude beeps? Or the full sounds, just only for system things?
[20:33] <zachb> I can't wait until October!!!
[20:33] <bcnaat> mheath: thanks.
[20:33] <mut80r> N3WFI3: yes but I don't think it works
[20:33] <Slart> N3WFI3: search for firefox2.. it's supposed to be in the repos
[20:33] <tigran> gfxstyler: Do you use irrlicht?
[20:33] <gaurav__> akorn: you mean you can't download the x64 iso image?
[20:33] <khaije1> krappe: oic, nm :-)
[20:33] <bcnaat> mheath: when I do a check, it does the sounds, mostly strange sounds - beeps seem normal
[20:33] <gfxstyler> tigran: not anymore, why you ask?
[20:34] <akorn> gaurav_ woudl that be the simplest way? i was trying to do it thru the upgrade process thru the repos...
[20:34] <mheath> akorn: A lot of the servers are _heavily_ overloaded right now
[20:34] <tigran> gfxstyler: seen your name in that channel
[20:34] <Jomatam> where are resolutions in xorg
[20:34] <mheath> akorn: try the torrent
[20:34] <MKdx> Hello
[20:34] <MKdx> just to confirm about the preserving /home feature that was planned for ubuntu.. Is it implemented in 8.04?
[20:34] <mheath> akorn: Even that takes some patience, as the trackers are all overloaded.
[20:34] <gfxstyler> anyone else here who can't boot hardy >> stuck at "Loading Hardware Drivers..."
[20:34] <gaurav__> akorn: i would wait or try the torrent
[20:34] <akorn> gaurav_ and mheath yea i guess i'll do that instead! haha thanks...
[20:34] <laiya> Jack_Sparrow: whats xmams ?
[20:34] <akorn> exit
[20:34] <tigran> mheath: What can I do?
[20:34] <bcnaat> my only problem with hardy over the past few days is the sound issue and no flash playback on web
[20:34] <Jack_Sparrow> laiya, multi arcade machine emulator
[20:34] <erimar77> mheath: select the fastest mirrors in the software sources section
[20:35] <Xecuter> hi! just installed hardon! :D but having trouble with the terminal, the auto-completion isn't working like it used to... how can i fix that?
[20:35] <laiya> Jack_Sparrow: how do i download and play em ?
[20:35] <gfxstyler> dystopianray: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/195218     this is the bug i think
[20:35] <Wyleyrabbit> where can I get the checksums for 8.04?
[20:35] <Jomatam> What to do if I dont see needed resolution under resolutions
[20:35] <gary4gar> Dani, your config file is messed up
[20:35] <Dani> gary4gar why?
[20:35] <faemir> Jomatam, go to the 'screen' section
[20:35] <|chiz|> can someone tell me who is the user that will be executing an init script during startup if one is not specified in the script?
[20:35] <gary4gar> Dani, Wait, trying to fix it
[20:35] <bcnaat> I've tried removing and reinstalling alsa, etc, but that didn't help
[20:35] <Starnestommy> |chiz|: root
[20:35] <J_Humphrey> Xecuter: are you sure your not just trying the wrong names?
[20:35] <Jack_Sparrow> one sec.. phone call
[20:35] <Jomatam> Screen?
[20:35] <lch_> |chiz|: root
[20:35] <mheath> Jomatam: do you have the driver for your graphics card installed?
[20:35] <nishanthgc> Hi ppl
[20:36] <Dani> gary4gar, thanks... but thats the very original one (before any change made)
[20:36] <Xecuter> J_Humphrey, jepp... i know how to write aptitude  and install :P
[20:36] <gangsterlicious> someone man 5 autofs
[20:36] <mheath> Jomatam: If you have an ATI or Nvidia card, you'll have to install the driver for it first by using System->Administration->Hardware Drivers.
[20:36] <mut80r> MSI 6877 Wireless in ubuntu 8.04, supported ?
[20:36] <Waffle> Wyleyrabbit, http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04/MD5SUMS
[20:36] <Wyleyrabbit> thanks Waffle
[20:36] <Sinnerman> if i manage to somehow screw up my package files list/local repositories, say, by manually deleting them (accidentally), could i fix that by just firing up synaptic and clicking on reload or doing apt-get update?
[20:36] <linkinxp> a good tool to download Youtube videos?????
[20:36] <|chiz|> Starnestommy: 1ch_: thats odd because if I run /etc/init.d/blah start it works fine but just starting up this thing doesn't work
[20:36] <gord_slater> laiya: note that a lot of the applications in the synaptic lists might not be graphical applications, so don't look very flashy or dont even "look" at all, there are many ways to do stuff in linux, the bottom line is usually the command-line, and that's good enough for many jobs, so if you seem to "lose" something you just installed, it may not habve any graphical stuff at all, a lot of beginners say that to me
[20:36] <Dani> gary4gar i would say that's the default xorg.conf file in hardy (as it's said xorg now handles everything for you)... just a guess
[20:36] <elliott_> In gutsy, my env variables were included in root when I used sudo, but they're not in hardy, and it's causing problems with stuff that i've made to trly on it hapening. what can I do?
[20:36] <MKdx> I meant this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbiquityPreserveHome
[20:36] <KyleK> how do i exit a ssh ifit goes dead? do i have to kill from somewhere else?
[20:37] <twistage> How do you list hidden files in a directory under terminal
[20:37] <erimar77> KyleK: can't you just close the window
[20:37] <mattl> twistage: ls -la
[20:37] <mheath> mut80r: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=454990 says yes, with some problems.
[20:37] <Starnestommy> twistage: ls -a
[20:37] <lch_> |chiz|: the system runs these as root, if you start them manually use sudo in front of the command line
[20:37] <andycaas1> how to use gnome icon packs?
[20:37] <KyleK> i guess i could
[20:37] <grindhold> hello, got a problem with my sound. pulse does not work.. had oss driver before
[20:37] <nishanthgc> I was having trouble with one of the clients in the lab.After the grub initialises the particular client says that there is an error on disk /dev/hda1 and fsck tries to repair it automatically but doesnt succeed.It ask me to repair manually and warns me that the root file system is mounted  read only and prompts me for root password.
[20:37] <nishanthgc>              So I was wondering if you could help me out in figuring  the problem.I would sincerely appreciate your help if you can help me out in any way and is there a root password for the client or do i need to change the thin client settings on the server??
[20:37] <grindhold> does anyone know how to fix?
[20:37] <DBautell> Wyleyrabbit, if that's slow, here's a torrent only mirror ftp://lug.bu.edu/pub/distro/ubuntu/
[20:37] <tovare> My wlan got broke after upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04. [  311.308680] eth1: AP denied association (code=18) any ideas?
[20:37] <zombophone> How do I set what architecture to compile for with a standard autoconf ./configure script?
[20:37] <nith> does anyone know where the hardy MD5's are?
[20:37] <|chiz|> 1ch_: I'm saying that if I do it manually it works fine its just durning startup they don't start properly for some reason
[20:37] <mut80r> mheath: thanks
[20:38] <Dani> does anyone know why the theme improvement in early unestable versions of hardy has been removed?
[20:38] <Jack_Sparrow> laiya, sorry I had to take that call...  sudo apt-get install xmame     then gcxmame for gui front end of kxmame your choice
[20:38] <evand> MKdx: yes, it is.  Go into the advanced parititoner and make sure the format checkbox isn't checked for your root partition.
[20:38] <DBautell> nith ftp://lug.bu.edu/pub/distro/ubuntu/
[20:38] <openuser> do anybody know where are shared folders in hardy?
[20:38] <erimar77> tovare: try going back to an open access point to see if its really broken
[20:38] <gary4gar> Dani, posting the modified config, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/64272/. back up your previous one.
[20:38] <bd__> is anybody else update manager crashing?
[20:38] <tovare> erimar77: My AP is open.
[20:38] <nith> DBautell: thx
[20:38] <lch_> |chiz|: ok. is the script depending on some service that is not yet started when the script is run?e.g. if you use network or similar
[20:38] <laiya> gord_slater: oh ok .. hey that pacman isnt downloading .. i guess it isnt available anymore
[20:38] <erimar77> tovare: ouch
[20:38] <Wisteso> is there a way someone can upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 WITHOUT burning the cd, and just mounting the (desktop x86) ISO?
[20:38] <nith> DBautell: are there none posted on the ubuntu site?
[20:38] <KyleK> oh cute, spammin iwconfig wlan0 key mykey was needed to make wifi go
[20:39] <KyleK> sigh
[20:39] <tigran> mheath: The driver isnt working, in xorg.conf it says its using vesa driver...?
[20:39] <nith> Wisteso: look into a dist-upgrade
[20:39] <gord_slater> laiya: aha, _maybe_ just server load right now, its a pretty extreme day
[20:39] <DBautell> nith, they would be, but their servers are swamped, I'm sure
[20:39] <|chiz|> 1ch_: thats a good call, I didn't think of that
[20:39] <Dani> gary4gar thanks a lot i'm gonna try!
[20:39] <openuser> does anybody know where are shared folders in hardy?
[20:39] <gopp> were is the graphic card option in ubuntu
[20:39] <mattl> w/in 18
[20:39] <|chiz|> 1ch_: thats a good call, its mounting upnp devices so yeah it needs a few things to be up first
[20:39] <r_a_f> openuser: yea
[20:39] <Xecuter> J_Humphrey, i remember fixing auto-completion once, maybe i should try that again? but i dont remember...
[20:39] <Wisteso> nith, the server is too slow (and unreliable from our connection) and we already have the ISO.
[20:39] <andycaas1> how to use gnome icon packs?
[20:39] <El1> Hi guys I'm having problems installing nvidia drivers in hardy, I've tried envy, restricted drivers manager, but no success, could anyone help me with this please?
[20:39] <gary4gar> Dani, if X does not show up & then restore previous one
[20:39] <mheath> tigran: you've gone to System->Adminsitration->Hardware Drivers, checked the checkbox, and restarted?
[20:40] <tigran> mheath: yea
[20:40] <gopp> were is the shared tools option
[20:40] <cyris|> is it possible to add a configure directive to a package that gets downloaded/installed via apt-get? I'm assuming no but i thought id ask
[20:40] <grindhold> Eli:  load the .run driver file from nvidia.com and try that
[20:40] <tigran> mheath: Should I try again?
[20:40] <J_Humphrey> Xecuter: yeah, I don't know much about the more advanced topics, my best bet is to either reinstall, or check the orginal iso md5, or google it
[20:40] <Dani> gary4gar, ok... already had to do that some times...
[20:40] <MKdx> evand: thx, this is the same in ubuntu, kubuntu and xubuntu I assume?
[20:40] <Dani> xD
[20:40] <sploby> Hello everybody, i'm trying to install a Ati drive with envyng, but i occurs an erro that says: not support envy
[20:40] <sotap> Dani: It hasn't been removed, it's Human-Murrine in System->Preferences->Appearance, at least I think that's what I think you're referring to.
[20:40] <mheath> tigran: try once more.
[20:40] <nith> Wisteso: thx, the md5 listed matches my download :)
[20:40] <grindhold> El1 try to install the drivers from nvidia.com
[20:40] <franek> hi. how update 7.10 to 8.04 I have cd 8.04
[20:40] <tigran> mheath: Ok
[20:40] <lch_> |chiz|: so one thing is to use the number in the file name, likee S99... to make it start later. also note that some services in ubuntu are started when the user logs in, not when the system boots
[20:40] <elliott_> In gutsy, my env variables were included in root when I used sudo, but they're not in hardy, and it's causing problems with stuff that i've made to trly on it hapening. what can I do?
[20:40] <El1> grindhold: isn't that what the nvidia-glx-new package does?
[20:40] <Jomatam> what driver I need for ATI Radeon 9250  ?
[20:40] <openuser> r_a_f: yes what???
[20:40] <J_Humphrey> franek: boot up the 8.04 iso as a live cd, and install 8.04
[20:41] <grindhold> El1 yes but sometimes it doesn't work
[20:41] <nazgul> evening. I messed up my /etc/udev/rules.d/ after following suggestions on this channel. I managed to get the system booting again, but removable media (usb sticks etc) don't get auto-mounted any more. I've tried re-installing all kind of packages (udev,hal..) and manually extracting the udev .deb. I cann see in the kernel messages that the media are detected. Any ideas what udev rule may be missing?
[20:41] <grindhold> El1 i had problems with that
[20:41] <El1> and grindhold: if I try that it says it can't find a pre-compiled kernel
[20:41] <sploby> what would that be?
[20:41] <El1> so it just quits
[20:41] <Dani> gary4gar, no luck... i got but to this ugly 640x480
[20:41] <ois> how do I unbind a keyboard shortcut in ubuntu 7.10 gnome?
[20:41] <Mads-b> I need help connecting to the internet on 7.10 (wired). It worked one week ago on the same setup, so no hardware problem..
[20:41] <deeflex> Just upgraded to hardy but now my logitech mice back/forward buttons are not working in Firefox. Any suggestions?
[20:41] <nishanthgc> I am having trouble with one of my thin clients can someone help me out plzz
[20:41] <kumarm0hit> I have this lenovo notebook with an EISA  hidden recovery partitin I a about to install hardy. If I make it take the entire disc, I think it would remove the EISA partition as well
[20:41] <Jomatam> radeon 9250 driver?
[20:41] <Cpudan80> When you do an upgrade from the ISO - you have to use the alternate CD right?
[20:41] <blue|palm> Pusselgenerator, hey, i've found this which explains it: http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9159
[20:41] <jon_> How can i mount my windows ntfs partition in hardy
[20:41] <evand> MKdx: Yes.  One last point: please make sure you have backups.
[20:41] <LadyNikon> nishanthgc: just ask your question.
[20:42] <grindhold> then you must get into the synaptic package manager and search for linux-header oder kernel-header or something. dunno anymore and download the packages.. give me a moment to search
[20:42] <grindhold> then you must get into the synaptic package manager and search for linux-header oder kernel-header or something. dunno anymore and download the packages.. give me a moment to search El1
[20:42] <nazgul> ois: with the backspace key
[20:42] <Arelis> Anyone want to help me get my tablet to work? It's a Wacom Bamboo Fun. I installed the "wacom-tools" package and did "modprobe wacom" but i still don't have /dev/input/wacom (which indicates if the system detects it or not). When i wave my pen over it it does nothing.
[20:42] <Dani> gary4gar system -> preferences -> Res, only shoes 640x480 and 320x240 both 50 Hz...
[20:42] <franek> J_Humphrey thx
[20:42] <DBautell> Cpudan80, I understood that to be the case, but have been informed that it may be broken
[20:42] <J_Humphrey> Mads-b: you might have to unclick "enable wireless" on the right click menu of the wifimanager
[20:42] <ois> nazgul: thanks
[20:42] <[BT]JaC> hi there, how can i make the terminal use color?
[20:42] <Assid> hey
[20:42] <|chiz|> 1ch_: I used update-rc.d blah defaults to put it in there
[20:42] <gary4gar> Dani, Press ALT+CTL+ Plus sign "+"
[20:42] <Dani> i did that, gary4gar
[20:42] <Assid> what happened to avant?
[20:42] <Cpudan80> DBautell: broken?
[20:42] <Jomatam> Radeon 9250 driver  is it in symantic packages?  whitch one?
[20:42] <Assid> its not int he repositories?
[20:42] <nazgul> ois: it says so in the explanation text
[20:42] <LadyNikon> bts3685: which terminal?
[20:42] <Mads-b> J_Humprey: no difference. I thinked my father has f*ked up the settings :
[20:42] <grindhold> El1 search linux-headers
[20:43] <El1> did, and all installed
[20:43] <elliott_> In gutsy, my env variables were included in root when I used sudo, but they're not in hardy, and it's causing problems with stuff that i've made to trly on it hapening. what can I do?
[20:43] <sploby> anyone?
[20:43] <El1> btw, installing the nvidia.com package, isn't that what envy does?
[20:43] <openuser> shared folders doesn't appear in my hardy, why?
[20:43] <El1> when manually installing I can select the 169.* drivers
[20:43] <gary4gar> Dani, hmm
[20:43] <DBautell> Cpudan80, all I have is this: http://pastebin.com/me18e45a I'll be trying it myself before long
[20:43] <lch_> |chiz|: ok, that is good, but i never did that with custom scripts. i guess there is some option to specify the number to launch it later
[20:43] <jon_> How can i mount my windows ntfs partition in hardy
[20:43] <Jomatam> ATI  radeon 9250 driver needed
[20:43] <jugimaster> hey..  i can't even boot up the damn installation!  - 7.10 didn't realize i have a hdd, but agreed to boot up by adding "irqpoll" to the boot-up parameters (whatever they actually are :))..  so now what?
[20:43] <Samstone|Junior> Hi all
[20:43] <El1> which in particular should be installed btw?
[20:43] <Pusselgenerator> blue|palm: Oh, I'm going to read that, thanks!
[20:44] <Abd> the upgrade is soooo slllooowwww
[20:44] <LadyNikon> !ntfs | jon_
[20:44] <ubotu> jon_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see /msg ubotu NTFS-3g or /msg ubotu FUSE
[20:44] <tim__b> i have a little tar issue: i want to backup my home using tar --exclude-tag-all='CACHEDIR.TAG' -czf file.foo -g timestamps ~ When using the -g switch --exclude* is ignored, withour -g --exclude* works. for incremental backups i need -g but don't want to waste space on some special directorys containing the CACHEDIR.TAG file. (answer please with nick highlight, thanks)
[20:44] <jugimaster> (right, i'm trying to start 8.04 now ofc)
[20:44] <Dani> gary4gar, my eyes are hurting :P ... next shoot should be the envy thing, don't you think?
[20:44]  * tovare found a bug reference indicating that my wlan woes is related to the iwl3945 driver.
[20:44] <grindhold> El1 one question.. if envy does the same as the nvidia driver, how may envy install it without the header files? :)
[20:44] <the_corona> why wont my driver work :-(
[20:44] <ois> nazgul: duh :( I just skim read it as "press this key to edit, or this one"
[20:44] <Mighty^^> one last time
[20:44] <Cpudan80> DBautell: According to the bugsite - the fix was pushed out in feb
[20:44] <El1> that's the problem it gave me the same error
[20:44] <Mighty^^> All .torrent can be found here: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[20:44] <KyleK> hah i cant make my wireless work, iwconfig wlan0 essid wireless isn't settin it
[20:44] <gopp> were is the graphic card option in ubuntu
[20:44] <Cpudan80> DBautell: maybe that guy has an old iso
[20:44] <El1> couldn't find install candidate or something
[20:44] <sploby> my video card is a ATI
[20:44] <bts3685> LadyNikon: i think you have me confused with someone else
[20:44] <Mads-b> What's the checklist for fixing wired network? First time I've ever had this problem on linux..
[20:45] <Jomatam> HELP   ATI radeon 9250  driver needed   HELP
[20:45] <gary4gar> Dani, google for "screen resolution ubuntu", you will get your answers, perhaps are you sure you have installed driver?
[20:45] <El1> but eventually it did install with envy, but I'm assuming not properly
[20:45] <elliott_> KyleK: what driver?
[20:45] <DBautell> Cpudan80, could be, I know nothing, just yet
[20:45] <grindhold> El1 open the synaptic package manager and search for linux-headers
[20:45] <the_corona> i have ati card too, and the driver doesnt work :-(
[20:45] <[BT]JaC> how can i make the terminal use color?
[20:45] <kuse> Anyone got any solution for the bonobo-application-server errormessages in hardy?
[20:45] <sploby> i'm trying dual-head but got no lucky
[20:45] <gary4gar> Dani, does "glxinfo | grep rendering" says yes?
[20:45] <the_corona> hd2600 xt and with the ati driver the pc crashes on boot :-(
[20:45] <MKdx> evand: excellent, thanks
[20:45] <livingdaylight> anyone know how i convert a mp3 file to wav?
[20:46] <the_corona> is there any other way to get those nice desktop effects without the ati driver?
[20:46] <El1> did that grindhold and I think all nescessary ones are installed
[20:46] <grindhold> El1: then download linux-headers-generic, linux-headers-2.6.24-16 and linux-headers-2.6.24-16-generic
[20:46] <Cpudan80> DBautell: only 1 more minute on the download - plus a few for the burn - so we'll see
[20:46] <Dani> yes, gary4gar
[20:46] <faemir> livingdaylight, why you want to do that?
[20:46] <Assid> err wheres avant ?
[20:46] <Dani> gary4gar... believe i did google a bunch before making you lose your time with me
[20:46] <gord_slater> Mads-b: do you know if you have DCHP, tell u show you normally conect to the internet, is it ADSL? for example
[20:46]  * Assid scratches his head
[20:46] <J_Humphrey> the_corona: I'm not sure
[20:46] <Jomatam> HELP   ATI radeon 9250  driver needed   HELP
[20:46] <deeflex> Just upgraded to hardy but now my logitech mice back/forward buttons are not working in Firefox. Any suggestions?
[20:46] <DBautell> Cpudan80, you can just mount the ISO without burning it
[20:46] <MasterShrek> !ati
[20:46] <ubotu> For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[20:46] <livingdaylight> faemir, to change login sound
[20:46] <Dani> gary4gar i could find anything, truth be told, i found some old bugs
[20:46] <El1> Those are installed grindhold
[20:47] <faemir> livingdaylight, audacity probably can
[20:47] <J_Humphrey> the_corona: probably not though, because you have to have 3D stuff
[20:47] <Cpudan80> DBautell: good point
[20:47] <jugimaster> Problem: Adding "irqpoll" to boot options used to revive my computer with 7.10 but doesn't work with 8.04.  - Any ideas?
[20:47] <thebigham> i just updated to hardy, how come the wireless broadcom driver doesnt show up on the hardware drivers list where i can enable, but it did showed up during the live cd install session.
[20:47] <the_corona> i did all that ubotu but it crashes after reboot (screen stays black and keyboard is "dead")
[20:47] <tovare> Why is it that when I try to do a manual configuration, that I am unable to choose an open network. The only options I have are WEP WPA and WPA2 ??  (My open wlan isn't working).
[20:47] <gary4gar> Dani, hmmm, forward a mail into the mailing list?
[20:47] <phoenix24> Whenever I mount a windows share in I get, "cannot find application to handle smb://". How can I mount SAMBA Shares ???
[20:47] <grindhold> El1 hrmm did you allow the nvidia driver installer to download a precompiled kernel from nvidia.com? or did envy ask you for that?
[20:47] <J_Humphrey> the_corona: but either ask in here, (I'm not that knowledgeable) or google it
[20:47] <Mads-b> Gord_slater: usually DHCP. I've tried disabling roaming mode and setting DHCP manually, but no difference
[20:47] <El1> didn't ask me for it, but the original nvidia installer did
[20:47] <the_corona> i am asking in here J_Humphrey :-) but thnx
[20:47] <Dani> gary4gar, i'm not in the mailing list
[20:48]  * Joeseph celebrates from a corrected xorg configuration :)
[20:48] <Dani> gary4gar how can I?
[20:48] <grindhold> El1 did you confirm the question in the nvidia installeR?
[20:48] <gord_slater> ah ok then, do you have another computer on the network? does it work? a laptop maybe? b4 you really break the ubuntu rofl
[20:48] <gary4gar> Dani, lists.ubuntu.com
[20:48] <J_Humphrey> the_corona: what I meant was put it all the information you have in a single question :)
[20:48] <evand> MKdx: anytime :)
[20:48] <Cpudan80> How do you mount an ISO again?
[20:48] <gord_slater> Mads-b: ah ok then, do you have another computer on the network? does it work? a laptop maybe? b4 you really break the ubuntu rofl
[20:48] <the_corona> also, can somebody tell me why rythmbox (that music player) wont import files from a windows server? (I can browse the servers contents just fine)
[20:48] <Dani> gary4gar thanks for your time, info and help, i'll do that after dinner
[20:48] <El1> wait, just found something: says linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic is not installed, but in synaptic it says it is
[20:48] <Dani> gary4gar thanks a lot!!!
[20:48] <Gman99999> my update manager is goign all dark and failing to respond I was updating to the latest release but had to reboot halfway through the download, what could be wrong?
[20:48] <thebigham> i just updated to hardy, how come the wireless broadcom driver doesnt show up on the hardware drivers list where i can enable, but it did showed up during the live cd install session.
[20:49] <Mads-b> gord_slater: network is always up and running. It's the settings on the ubuntu box that's complaining. Tho arch boxer running on the same LAN constantly downloading :D
[20:49] <DBautell> Cpudan80, mount -o loop name.iso /dir/to/mnt
[20:49] <Cpudan80> DBautell: ty
[20:49] <gary4gar> Dani, Don't make me small, i didn't help you a bit :(
[20:49] <Dani> gary4gar... you tried hard ;)
[20:49] <kbrooks> the_corona, copy the files to your home directory.
[20:49] <the_corona> kbrooks:  lol
[20:49] <El1> oh wait no, the 15 and 16 are installed but not 14, how can I add that to synaptic? linux-headers-2.6.22-14-generic
[20:49] <El1>  that is
[20:50] <gord_slater> laiya: ok, so you're payed the bill the :):) ok, whell i start with the physical layer 1st, is there a light on the swith or back of the PC network card? maybe a pet chewed it or some1 tripped on wire?
[20:50] <gary4gar> Dani, do ping me as a PM, after dinner, we would see it again
[20:50] <kbrooks> the_corona, simple enough
[20:50] <Assid> okay whats better
[20:50] <twistage> whats the name of the file search front end so i can run it from terminal
[20:50] <Wyleyrabbit> I'm trying to burn the 8.04 cd using the built-in CD burner (whatever is installed by default) in Ubuntu 7.10. I have now made 4 coasters in a row. WTF??? Am I missing something? The software seems to have zero options to tweak, other than recording speed and I've tried everything from 16x down to 2x with the same result. What should I be using?
[20:50] <Assid> adovbe flash or gnash
[20:50] <gord_slater> laiya: sorry ,meant for Mads-b : ok, so you're payed the bill the :):) ok, whell i start with the physical layer 1st, is there a light on the swith or back of the PC network card? maybe a pet chewed it or some1 tripped on wire?
[20:50] <Gat0rvean> where can I find a torrent link for 8.04?
[20:50] <the_corona> kbrooks: thats not a good solution at all
[20:50] <J_Humphrey> Wyleyrabbit: don't make data CDs, you have to make iso images
[20:50] <OllieA> I need to add a new resolution to my drop down box, open a new chat with me to help!  Please!!
[20:50] <gary4gar> Wyleyrabbit, is your burner really okay?
[20:50] <Starnestommy> Gat0rvean: it's in the topic message
[20:50] <DBautell> Gat0rvean, ftp://lug.bu.edu/pub/distro/ubuntu/
[20:51] <steven2> hello!
[20:51] <Gman99999> my update manager keeps crashing why?
[20:51] <J_Humphrey> Wyleyrabbit: Right click the iso file, and write to disc
[20:51] <tigran> mheath: Its the same thing and the driver still says vesa in xorg
[20:51] <icanhasproxy> My GDM is borked on default hardy install. splash login comes up, hangs after login before gnome loads. if i /etc/init.d/gdm stop, and startx, gnome works fine. can't tell what's hanging it
[20:51] <Wyleyrabbit> J_Humphrey: I have just been right-clicking the iso and choosing "write to disc"
[20:51] <OllieA> I need to add a new resolution to my drop down box, open a new chat with me to help!  Please!!
[20:51] <the_corona> then maybe somebody can tell me this, how can i make sure i dont have to manually mount a partition (ntfs) after each reboot?
[20:51] <KrimZon> i could do with grabbing the release iso
[20:51] <Gman99999> Im halfway downloading the next release and I cant get the update mamnager to go again
[20:51] <Cpudan80> DBautell: ./cdromupgrade
[20:51] <Cpudan80> tar: ./dists/stable/main/dist-upgrader/binary-all//hardy.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[20:51] <Wyleyrabbit> gary4gar: have used same burner in windows for past 6 months and not a single coaster from it.
[20:52] <DBautell> Cpudan80, does work?
[20:52] <Cpudan80> DBautell: looks like there's an error after all
[20:52] <Joeseph> Do updates update desktop managers also?
[20:52] <wubrgamer> is 7.10 firewalled by default like 8.04?
[20:52] <MikeCulver> icanhasproxy: Have you tried changing session settings?
[20:52] <El1> nvm grindhold, I'll find it from here, thanks a lot for the help :-)
[20:52] <DBautell> Cpudan80, :(
[20:52] <Cpudan80> DBautell: no - it complains about that tar file missing
[20:52] <KyleK> firewalled?
[20:52] <shrift> hey guys, I'm probably asking the same question as everyone else.... Anyone know of a working, updated 8.04 repository?
[20:52] <faemir> Wyleyrabbit, use brasero (gnome) or k3b (kde)
[20:52] <wubrgamer> ufw
[20:52] <Starnestommy> wubrgamer: yes, but there are no rules set by default in its firewall
[20:52] <gord_slater> Mads-b:my next check, if lights are on,  is  to type    sudo ifconfig -a    in a terminal, I check i can actually see the NIC there, for example, eth0
[20:52] <Wyleyrabbit> faemir: I'll give that a try
[20:52] <milly1234> can a ubuntu 8.04 wipe out the entire install other then a home dir during install to keep personal files but give the system a fresh start?
[20:52] <flask_> so did the torrent servers ever come back?
[20:52] <faemir> Wyleyrabbit, :)
[20:52] <KyleK> shrift: are you in canada?
[20:53] <wubrgamer> does 8.04 have rules set ?
[20:53] <OllieA> I need to add a new resolution to my drop down box, open a new chat with me to help!  Please!!
[20:53] <nickt> hi all - just tried to use the 8.04 live disk but it didnt pick up my wireless card for my laptop when the older cd did - why could this be?
[20:53] <shrift> kylek: us, but I'd use any that worked... I don't need a lot of packages. : (
[20:53] <J_Humphrey> milly1234: yes, but you have to have the /home directory on a seperate parition
[20:53] <nazgul> shrift: the de.* ones work
[20:53] <Mads-b> gord_slater: I see my eth0 and eth1 (two cards), but no IÅ
[20:53] <shrift> nazgul: tyvm I'll try that
[20:53] <Mads-b> *IP
[20:53] <Gman99999> my update manager keeps failing does anyone know why?
[20:53] <thebigham> i just updated to hardy, how come the wireless broadcom driver doesnt show up on the hardware drivers list where i can enable, but it did showed up during the live cd install session.
[20:53] <gary4gar> shrift, you have to wait for some more time
[20:53] <milly1234> darn, wish 7.10 defaulted to home being a seperate partition
[20:53] <Gman99999> my update manager keeps failing does anyone know why?
[20:53] <MemoryDump> should "./cdromupgrade" still be performed on a running version of Hardy Beta with all the updates applied up until yesterday? or would a "apt-get update/upgrade" do the trick to fix/updated changed files?
[20:53] <Gman99999> my update manager keeps failing does anyone know why?
[20:53] <Flare183> On Kubuntu, when I go and try to upgrade to hardy the button "Version Upgrade" Does not show up, even after I click
[20:53] <Starnestommy> Gman99999: I think a lot of the update servers are geting a heavy load due to the new release
[20:54] <J_Humphrey> milly1234: there is away of migrating /home to a seperate dir, google it, and you'll find it
[20:54] <Flare183> On Kubuntu, when I go and try to upgrade to hardy the button "Version Upgrade" Does not show up, even after I click Fetch updates (correction)
[20:54] <lch_> MemoryDump: use apt-get  that will be fine
[20:54] <Wyleyrabbit> Gman99999: repeating your question like that will just annoy people!
[20:54] <Gman99999> my update manager goes black like its crashed why is that?
[20:54] <MemoryDump> lch_: thanks :)
[20:54] <gord_slater> Mads-b: OK then, you say u normally have DHCP, but has the card got an IP assigned to it? MIne once got "out of synch " with the networkmanager applet thingy......manual ip was set by mistake no matter what i did
[20:54] <nazgul> Gman99999: calm down. does it continue its service later on?
[20:54] <compaqr4000> Gman99999. It is busy....wait
[20:54] <lch_> MemoryDump: you can of course also use the graphical update manager :-)
[20:54] <openuser> does someone know why sahred folders app doesn't appear on my ubuntu?????????????????
[20:55] <Gman99999> nazgul ok I
[20:55] <arbrandes> Dag nabbit, 20kbps on the update... This is going to take forever.
[20:55] <pjoul> Gman99999: download hardy iso and reinstall your previous installatio
[20:55] <Jack_Sparrow> milly1234, Here is a page on that.. a bit outdated, but still good info  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[20:55] <lch_> openuser: firewall on the windows box?
[20:55] <Gman99999> nazgul ok Im going to wait hopefully it wont be like this forever
[20:55] <DBautell> Cpudan80, I wonder if one can add the CD as a repo
[20:55] <arbrandes> DBautell, yes you can.
[20:55] <J_Humphrey> thanks Jack_Sparrow for getting that, I'm writing the 8.04 image, and didnt want to mess it up by opening firefox :)
[20:55] <bpr> how do i check which package owns a particular file?
[20:55] <Gman99999> can you upgrade to hardy heron with the iso?
[20:55] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[20:55] <J_Humphrey> DBautell: you can
[20:56] <arbrandes> Gman99999, yes you can
[20:56] <steven> hey steven2
[20:56] <gord_slater> Mads-b: you could try manually setting an IP that you know to be free, on the same subnet, and see what happens. stop me if i'm confusing from here
[20:56] <steven> lol
[20:56] <Cpudan80> DBautell: It works
[20:56] <nazgul> Gman99999: apps (temporarily) not reacting fade b&w. the compiz window manager does this. if it stays like this for , say, >10min something is wrong
[20:56] <DBautell> tyvek, ty, ty
[20:56] <weltall> does anyone know if hardy packages are updated enough to say no to this? Create deprecated sysfs files (SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2) [Y/n/?] (NEW) ?
[20:56] <DBautell> doh
[20:56] <Wunar> What is the apt-way of searching which package provides some file? (something like yum whatprovides /usr/bin/firefox)?
[20:56] <steven2> hi steven, but stop using my nick
[20:56] <jrabbit> Wtf the iso is too large!
[20:56] <macd> !avg
[20:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about avg - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[20:56] <Cpudan80> DBautell: Give it the full path when you exec it
[20:56] <elliott_> In gutsy, my env variables were included in root when I used sudo, but they're not in hardy, and it's causing problems with stuff that i've made to trly on it hapening. what can I do?
[20:56] <Gman99999> nazgul ok its been 10 mins
[20:56] <Joeseph> Alright, I've got a question not relating to the new update- its more computer generic though: My network, or possilby my network manager, keeps booting me off the network.  Sometimes it seems random, and sometimes its when I access certain cites, such as Facebook.   Can anyone think of anything that could be causing it?
[20:56] <arbrandes> Gman99999, but it will still need to download extra packages from the internet.  I'm doing this now.
[20:56] <Cpudan80> DBautell: debrac@zazu:/media/iso$ sudo /media/iso/cdromupgrade
[20:56] <Jack_Sparrow> jrabbit, please dont use that shorthand in here
[20:56] <jrabbit> How can I keep it bootable but slim it down?
[20:56] <DBautell> Cpudan80, ok, good deal
[20:56] <openuser> Ich_: firewall, don't know what are saying, sorry, i'm spanish, but what I'm trying to say is i don't see the application shared dolders on system>Administracion
[20:56] <Brandon_> curious what do I type to get the CPU usage on a ubuntu server?
[20:56] <nickt> is there any reason why hardware drivers for a common wireless system would be dropped?
[20:57] <jrabbit> Jack_Sparrow: please don't release data 6 mb over limits
[20:57] <tigran> Jack_Sparrow: I'm having trouble getting nvidia driver to work, I installed today, and in Hardware Driver it says that nvidia_new is enabled but not in use and in xorg the driver says vesa, any idea?
[20:57] <Flare183> nevermind
[20:57] <elduchy> oi
[20:57] <mistapapa> is here anyone that is willing to help me with my wlan? when resume from hibernate my notebook can't connect... :'(
[20:57] <nazgul> Gman99999: if you dont have a computer from the stone age it hangs for sure. kill it and retry.
[20:57] <Jack_Sparrow> jrabbit, Just try to burn it...
[20:57] <Gman99999> so now I have to download the iso to get this update finished?
[20:57] <jrabbit> Everything says its TOO BIG
[20:57] <arbrandes> Gman99999, no, but it'll probably finish faster if you start over from the CD.
[20:57] <Gman99999> nazgul I have a new laptop and Ive done it a few times
[20:57] <J_Humphrey> well, I'm off, installing 8.04 now
[20:58] <lch_> Gman99999: try patience ;-)
[20:58] <DBautell> Gman99999, You'll need the alternate ISO to do that
[20:58] <Jack_Sparrow> jrabbit, iso's contain info about the original that is not actually burned to a cd
[20:58] <elliott_> Brandon_: top and uptime will show you relevant info
[20:58] <jrabbit> "699 needed 656 avail"
[20:58] <arbrandes> Gman99999, oh that's right, you need either the alternate cd or the DVD.
[20:58] <nazgul> Gman99999: you do a Ubtuntu CD install?
[20:58] <wizo> hey guys
[20:58] <elduchy> someone can help me with a soundcard problem on hardy ??? please pvt me
[20:58] <Cpudan80> DBautell: aww man - it wants to remove my apache and VLC
[20:58] <Cpudan80> :-(
[20:58] <dethstar> !trash
[20:58] <ubotu> The location of Trash has changed in 8.04, it is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash | Looking for the trash in previous versions: ~/.Trash
[20:58] <snarkste1> I have a HP external USB cd burner that I cant get to mount a disc, lsusb does see show the device. any clues?
[20:58] <arbrandes> Cpudan80, cd upgrade?
[20:58] <mistapapa> elduchy: make the move to 804
[20:58] <Jack_Sparrow> jrabbit, my disks all say 700mb
[20:58] <PriceChild> Does anyone use rtorrent and know how to add extra trackers to an existing torrent?
[20:58] <wizo> just a question, if i do a command like this : xload &, should the program still continue running even after i have closed the terminal?
[20:59] <lch_> jrabbit: there are 650MB and 700MB media, you need the later...
[20:59] <Cpudan80> arbrandes: Yes - why?
[20:59] <Brandon_> elliott_, oh didn't realize that's what those numbers were heh. Thanks
[20:59] <kumarm0hit> would broadcom wifi and ethernet work out of the box in hardy?
[20:59] <mistapapa> elduchy: new soundsubsystem on board
[20:59] <milly1234> thank you Jack_Sparrow
[20:59] <arbrandes> Cpudan80, you should let it download packages from the net too.
[20:59] <jrabbit> lch_: Its obviously not ethier of them :"|
[20:59] <tumbleweed05> hows hardy everyone? stable? fantastic?
[20:59] <Gman99999> nazgul do i have the gutsy gibbon cd?
[20:59] <Jack_Sparrow> milly1234, np  also please see uuid
[20:59] <arbrandes> Cpudan80, or use the DVD to update.
[20:59] <Jack_Sparrow> !uuid > milly1234
[20:59] <shrift> nazgul: the de. servers are indeed working. tyvm.
[20:59] <DBautell> Cpudan80, both beyond my needs/knowledge... conflicts with other packages?
[20:59] <Gman99999> nazgul or the new hardy heron?
[20:59] <Wunar> How to determine which package installed some file, like "which_deb_to_blame_for /usr/bin/firefox" ?
[21:00] <elliott_> Brandon_: load average should be somewhere between 0 and the number of cores/processors you have, and the highter the more used it is
[21:00] <NeT_DeMoN> the wireless options not in my connections tab :S does anyone know how to fix that?
[21:00] <Cpudan80> arbrandes: Yes but the packages from the net thing is painfully slow
[21:00] <suwro> hello
[21:00] <gord_slater> Mads-b: still with me?  next real step is to ping your default gateway if you know it, assuming u get (dhcp) or have given(manual) the card an IP
[21:00] <MikeCulver> I can't get DRI or compiz working on my Fire GL T2.  I'm using the open source driver, but glxinfo says "libGL error: dlopen /usr/lib/dri/r300_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/dri/r300_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_Dispatch)"
[21:00] <Brandon_> elliott_, yeah 1.13
[21:00] <tumbleweed05> hey suwro
[21:00] <icanhasproxy> NeT_DeMoN: load your wireless card module
[21:00] <milly1234> thanks Jack_Sparrow, ran into that one when I was trying to get my windows partition mountable when I added the drive as a second drive
[21:00] <compaqr4000> kumarm0hit: mine did not
[21:00] <mistapapa> is here anyone that is willing to help me with my wlan? when resume from hibernate my notebook can't connect... :'(
[21:00] <Netham45> trying to update my server, but it is hanging on getting update-manager-core through apt-get
[21:00] <crdlb> MikeCulver: uninstall fglrx (xorg-driver-fglrx)
[21:00] <tumbleweed05> #ubuntu is quite busy today.
[21:00] <NeT_DeMoN> icanhasproxy: how do i do that?
[21:00] <weltall> does anyone know if hardy packages are updated enough to say no to this? Create deprecated sysfs files (SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2) [Y/n/?] (NEW) ?
[21:00] <arbrandes> Cpudan80, yes, I have the same problem.  I downloaded the cd torrent in one hour, but it's taking a further 3 hours for the remaining packages.
[21:00] <Gman99999> nazgul Im running a partial upgrade now so hopefully it will fix it
[21:00] <Jack_Sparrow> milly1234, just trying to cover the bases..
[21:00] <ericus> how do i upgrade from feisty to hardy using the command line?
[21:00] <MikeCulver> crdlb: not using fglrx.. also, it's uninstalled already
[21:00] <reverseblade> I can't seem to uninstall openpanel, can anyone help ?
[21:00] <icanhasproxy> NeT_DeMoN: you probabaly don't without fixing something first. if it didn't start itself it's broken for sure
[21:00] <ericus> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade wont work
[21:00] <NeT_DeMoN> tumbleweed05: of course, hardy was released today :P
[21:00] <]tla[> Hi.  I have installed Hardy under VMWare.  The VMware-Tools do not compile under Hardy.  Is there an update available to VMware-Tools that will compile?  I Can't find anything on the vmware web site.  Thx.
[21:01] <milly1234> no, I appreaciate it actually, you are most helpful and friendly
[21:01] <arbrandes> Cpudan80, the DVD iso would probably be quicker, but the torrent is not that fast either.
[21:01] <tumbleweed05> NeT_DeMoN: i know lol.
[21:01] <crdlb> MikeCulver: are you sure? It's definitely still present
[21:01] <Cpudan80> arbrandes: The stuff isnt that critical - I can go without a web server for one day
[21:01] <NeT_DeMoN> icanhasproxy: it works one my vista side of the partition
[21:01] <nazgul> Gman99999: what did you tell the update manager to do? update your distriubution?
[21:01] <elduchy> lspci sais i Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family)
[21:01] <Brodwen> I'm thinking of installing Hardy to dual-boot with Vista, will I run into any serious problems?
[21:01] <MikeCulver> crdlb: I'll try to purge it
[21:01] <crdlb> MikeCulver: if you've removed the package, you can: sudo apt-get --reinstall install libgl1-mesa-glx
[21:01] <Brandon_> elliott_, heh stupid question how does one find out the hardware info on a computer?
[21:01] <fliegenderfrosch> Brodwen:  you shouldn't
[21:01] <fation_linuX> hello to all
[21:01] <fation_linuX> :P
[21:01] <Jack_Sparrow> milly1234, I always appreciate a polite response...
[21:01] <Fishscene> ]tla[ that's a question for vmware... Thanks for the heads-up on that though. I'm a vmware fan as well.
[21:01] <arbrandes> Cpudan80, hehehe, roger that.
[21:01] <Gman99999> nazgul its working again I just picked to do a partial upgrade when it asked me when it opened
[21:01] <nikitis> When does support on 7.10 run out?
[21:01] <mistapapa> ]tla[: vmware tools are horrible... i also got lots of problems
[21:01] <tumbleweed05> hey fation_linuX
[21:01] <suwro> Is there any way to make firefox 2 the default browser - I find ff3 broken, instable and a lot of pages are not shown correct - I have a feeling like I use IE instead firefox...
[21:01] <fation_linuX> ;)
[21:01] <[BT]JaC> how can i make the terminal use color?
[21:02] <MikeCulver> crdlb: I've also reinstalled those as well as per the DRI wiki..
[21:02] <arbrandes> nikitis, in a year.
[21:02] <Brodwen> Also; Is the Windows installed included on the ISO on the Ubuntu website?
[21:02] <Fishscene> mistapapa, what OS?
[21:02] <Brandon_> fliegenderfrosch, you mean ubuntu doesn't have a "hardware manager"?
[21:02] <ericus> [BT]JaC, under profiles
[21:02] <MikeCulver> crdlb: I'll try removing fglrx further as you suggested
[21:02] <nikitis> arbrandes, thanks
[21:02] <ericus> colors
[21:02] <mistapapa> [BT]JaC: edit bashrc
[21:02] <tigran> I'm having trouble getting nvidia driver to work, I installed today, and in Hardware Driver it says that nvidia_new is enabled but not in use and in xorg the driver says vesa, any idea?
[21:02] <fliegenderfrosch> Brodwen: if you use wubi, you don't even have to mess with partitions
[21:02] <suwro> ??
[21:02] <bicyclis1> mistapapa My recommendations is always, try virtualbox
[21:02] <dustybin> if ubuntu is based on debian, what parts of debian is it based on?
[21:02] <Brodwen> Thanks Fliegender
[21:02] <bahadunn> virtualbox is sweet
[21:02] <arbrandes> nikitis, you're welcome
[21:02] <Brandon_> fliegenderfrosch, sorry hit the wrong key
[21:02] <daekdroom> dustybin: Apt
[21:02] <bahadunn> dustybin: all of it?
[21:02] <crdlb> MikeCulver: does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say direct rendering: enabled ?
[21:03] <dustybin> daekdroom: just apt?
[21:03] <baske> hello all, anyone experienced problem with intel 4965 wireless networking after updating ubuntu8.04 recently?
[21:03] <fliegenderfrosch> Brandon_: thought so :)
[21:03] <mistapapa> tigran: sorry... ain't got an idea... I'm on ati
[21:03] <icanhasproxy> NeT_DeMoN: vista is going to have nothing to do with wrong / incorrectly installed linux drivers
[21:03] <daekdroom> dustybin: Well. Apt and comes everything that depends on apt :p
[21:03] <MikeCulver> crdlb: Yes.. and that's what threw me off to begin with
[21:03] <Mads-b> gord_slater: I just identified the problem :P After troubleshooting every concieveable software problem, I discovered that the hub the computer war plugged into was not powered (of course my homebrew poewr splitter melted) :D
[21:03] <tigran> mistapapa: Thanks anyway
[21:03] <dustybin> ok
[21:03] <DrX> What might be causing a green screen and pointer only for the GUI at startup (command line login OK) and what can be done about it?
[21:03] <bicyclis1> bahadunn just a had a presentation today and all the folks just said. Wow, look he uses Windows. All i said, sure, but trapped inside virtualbox and the master os is sweet ubuntu ;)
[21:03] <suwro> dustybin: what part do you want? - debian is debian - clean "keep it simple" linux.
[21:03] <PaulMooney> fliegenderfrosch: ?
[21:03] <mistapapa> tigran: :-/
[21:03] <daekdroom> dustybin: X.org is debian's too.
[21:03] <MikeCulver> crdlb: DRIconf won't start correctly, and glxanything all report a problem
[21:03] <DBautell> DVD torrent link, anyone?
[21:03] <suwro> anyone have problems with firefox 3 ?
[21:03] <fliegenderfrosch> PaulMooney: what is it?
[21:03] <dustybin> daekdroom: so ubuntu stole apt, and xorg?
[21:03] <wizo> hey, if i run a program from the command line and append it with a &, is it meant to continue even after i close the terminal?
[21:03] <numaan> having trouble downloading repositories
[21:04] <daekdroom> dustybin: and almost everything else.
[21:04] <PaulMooney> fliegenderfrosch: my fault.  i thought you were talking to me.  my name is brandon... didn't realize that my nick wasn't at th etime
[21:04] <jappdev> suwro:it runs great, just waiting for plugins to be updated for it
[21:04] <bahadunn> bicyclis1: virtualbox is nice.  I started using it a few months ago and I was not sure why I never heard of it before then
[21:04] <]tla[> Error is: "include/linux/types.h:40: error: conflicting types for ‘uintptr_t’"
[21:04] <fliegenderfrosch> PaulMooney: np :)
[21:04] <daekdroom> dustybin: But Ubuntu has a different release cycle.
[21:04] <arbrandes> DBautell, http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/ubuntu-8.04-dvd-i386.iso.torrent
[21:04] <tigran> Well lets say nvidia driver is installed but xorg inst being updated, whats the name of the driver so I can manually try to change in xorg
[21:04] <bicyclis1> What i love is the seemless mode and that you can resize it and the resolution adapts.
[21:04] <bahadunn> bicyclis1: I was using qemu before virtualbox but qemu was too slow on my hardware
[21:04] <mistapapa> when I resume from hibernate my notebook can't connect to wireless lan... :'( is there a way to manually get wlan up?
[21:04] <Mimi> Hello, I think Hardy is very cool so far... I have selected "Advanced" desktop effects... but where do I go to customise it? And where's Emerald?  Thanks in advance
[21:04] <bicyclis1> and of course the performacne
[21:04] <suwro> dustybin: stole is impropper to say - both applications you mention are open sources
[21:04] <DBautell> arbrandes, thanks
[21:04] <dustybin> daekdroom: aye true, debian has a slow release cycle, ubuntu twice a year
[21:04] <bahadunn> bicyclis1: virtualbox is very fast though
[21:04] <gaara> hi
[21:04] <arbrandes> DBautell, you're welcome
[21:04] <Fishscene> Mimi, in 7.04, you needed to install the compiz extensions from add/remove software
[21:04] <fliegenderfrosch> Mimi: you have to install cssm for more configuration
[21:05] <NeT_DeMoN> icanhasproxy: how do i fix it then?
[21:05] <Mimi> DOH!! Thanks guys!!
[21:05] <tumbleweed05> alright. i'm out. later people.
[21:05] <bicyclis1> True. And it allows me to use several virtual oses in parallel.
[21:05] <tigran> mistapapa: you have to add it to a whitelist or blacklist cant remember which one or where it was, try googling
[21:05] <linkmaster03> can I get Hardy from Update Manager?
[21:05] <Marfi> is anyone else having problems installing packages?
[21:05] <bahadunn> bicyclis1: I have had entire virtual networks of systems running with virtualbox in one machine
[21:05] <mistapapa> is here anyone that is willing to help me with my wlan? when resume from hibernate my notebook can't connect... :'(
[21:05] <tumbleweed05> enjoy hardy since i can't.
[21:05] <Starnestommy> linkmaster03: yes
[21:05] <gaara> can any one tell me how i recompile apache module with DEAPI  plzzz
[21:05] <gord_slater> Mads-b: haha glad u got it sorted, like i said, i start with the physical layer first, especially if I have been out of the room  for more than a few minutes - trust no-one and no-thing :)
[21:05] <Mimi> Yes you can linkmaster03
[21:05] <bicyclis1> Man that was a show today at that presentation
[21:05] <linkmaster03> Thank you
[21:05] <mistapapa> tigran: pardon
[21:05] <bahadunn> bicyclis1: very nice for testing clusters/load balancing/high availability etc...
[21:05] <suwro> Mimi: I had the same problem - change your repos - I had a broken repo - after that - no more problems.
[21:05] <dustybin> i havent found anything technologically amazing about ubuntu, maybe its just because people prefer to use newer packages rather than debians older stable packages
[21:05] <arbrandes> linkmaster03, yes, but you don't want to do that today.  It's too slow.
[21:05] <lch_> woho one package to download left :-)
[21:05] <gaara> can any one tell me how i recompile apache module with DEAPI  plzzz
[21:05] <Jack_Sparrow> Marfi, expect all sorts of timouts and delays for a day or so
[21:05] <gaara> can any one tell me how i recompile apache module with DEAPI  plzzz
[21:05] <gaara> can any one tell me how i recompile apache module with DEAPI  plzzz
[21:05] <FloodBot2> gaara: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:05] <bicyclis1> bahadunn true, it helps a lot !
[21:05] <suwro> Mimi: except firefox3 which i hate it.
[21:06] <Marfi> Jack_Sparrow, thats what i was figuring. =)
[21:06] <Jack_Sparrow> dustybin, please take the discussion to #Ubuntu-offtopic
[21:06] <Stop_It> Yey, download finished, CD burned, wish me luck
[21:06] <bahadunn> I wonder if you can emulate arm cpus in virtualbox
[21:06] <Marfi> =0 FloodBot2 blocked Gaara of the sands?
[21:06] <bicyclis1> I am just burning copies of 8.04 in the moment for our next computer lecture at my departement. I will spread them among the listeners ;)
[21:06] <Mads-b> gord_slater: I thought I had it sorted, but when I have a LAN room with 12 switches and 3 routers things can get really messy really fast. That's why I made my homemade splitter too; I didn't have enough power outtakes ^^
[21:07] <bahadunn> there are tons of SDKs that could be useful for cause qemu is just too slow unfortunately
[21:07] <tigran> I'm having trouble getting nvidia driver to work, I installed today, and in Hardware Driver it says that nvidia_new is enabled but not in use and in xorg the driver says vesa, any idea?
[21:07] <arbrandes> bicyclis1, heh, spread the word, brother! :)
[21:07] <bahadunn> I would not mind playing with that arm port of ubuntu
[21:07] <doktoreas> hello everybody
[21:07] <baske> anyone has experience of intel 4965 wireless card and ubuntu 8.04?
[21:07] <doktoreas> sorry, is the Intel Quad Core 32bit ?
[21:07] <mistapapa>  anyone knows if there is a way to get wlan manually up and down...?
[21:07] <doktoreas> for the iso to be used
[21:07] <Mimi> ...guys.... im using tasksel to install lamp server..... but instead its removing banshee, compiz-gnome, agave..... O.O Help!
[21:07] <mistapapa> o_O
[21:07] <KyleK> arm port of ubuntu? theres arm machines with VGA?
[21:07] <bahadunn> doktoreas: its 64bit
[21:07] <Fishscene> doktoreas, if it's core 2, then yes, it is 32-bit and 64-bit capable
[21:07] <bahadunn> doktoreas: you can tell with a cat /proc/cpuinfo
[21:08] <diggduggz> Hello, I'm wanting to do a fresh install of Ubuntu HH, how do I wipe the old ubuntu and do a clean install? will the Live CD give me this option? im about to burn it.
[21:08] <bicyclis1> Coolest thing today: A kid stood in my back talking to his friend like a real expert. Look, he is using vista, aint that cool. I was running the compiz cube.
[21:08] <mistapapa> shit this channel is completly overloaded
[21:08] <MikeCulver> crdlb: I found the kernel sourse for fglrx still there... removing that.  pruged and autocleaned...
[21:08] <tseug> my battery is at 36%.  the adapter is plugged in.  how can i fix my battery? it's been like this for over a week. the laptop shuts off sometimes when using dvd player. what could be wrong? this all began after i upgraded to gutsy.
[21:08] <bicyclis1> Just turned around and said, well, that is way beyond vista......
[21:08] <doktoreas> ok thx
[21:08] <Fishscene> Is there a way to setup an Ubuntu overflow channel?
[21:08] <KyleK> diggduggz: tell it to format things?
[21:08] <daemon3> How do I install mac themes?
[21:08] <Aranel> Is "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" is enough for updating ?
[21:08] <OllieA> I can't enable 1024x768 screen res because not in drop down box, how do I enable it!?
[21:08] <diggduggz> KyleK ..  things?
[21:08] <Folk_Theory> no use update manager
[21:08] <lch_> tseug: i dont know, but you could upgrade to hardy, as its out today :-)
[21:08] <Jack_Sparrow> mistapapa, Please watch the language
[21:08] <arbrandes> Aranel, if you edited /etc/apt/sources.list, yes.
[21:08] <gord_slater> Mads-b: coming from an electronics background myself, the 1st stage in most troubleshooting involves "check supplies". This was a mains (230volt) splitter you had?
[21:09] <dubby> help someone i need java and gcj is not stable enough
[21:09] <Aranel> arbrandes: how can I edit it ? :) I don't edited.
[21:09] <fliegenderfrosch> Aranel: this won't give you the new version, just updates
[21:09] <Ayabara> is there an _easy_ way to share a folder using samba?
[21:09] <KyleK> diggduggz: like partitions that you want cleaned out, like / but not /home maybe
[21:09] <Jack_Sparrow> diggduggz, yes, select manual partitioning
[21:09] <livingdaylight> i'm adding wav files to /usr/share/sounds to change login sound. Yet when i hit 'test' i get no sound??
[21:09] <tseug> lch_, what? a new dist???
[21:09] <fliegenderfrosch> Aranel: you shouldn't perform the upgrade this way
[21:09] <dubby> i am trying to install the stuff from sun micro-systems but its not making a mozilla plugin
[21:09] <lch_> tseug: yes, see topic line of this channel :-)
[21:09] <Acoustyk> i know im the millionth person to ask but has 8.04 come out officially yet?
[21:09] <Aranel> fliegenderfrosch: how can I perform the upgrade ? can "sudo do-release-upgrade" do it ?
[21:09] <arbrandes> Aranel, you have to change all "gutsy" references to "hardy", basically.
[21:09] <Mimi> ..guys......guys.... im using tasksel to install lamp server..... but instead its removing banshee, compiz-gnome, agave, gnome-power-manager... notification-daemon........ O.O Help!
[21:09] <arbrandes> Acoustyk, yes
[21:09] <OllieA> Is anyone recieving these messages?
[21:10] <Mimi> It just removed the network manager :-(  !!!
[21:10] <KyleK> Mimi: what does tasksel do?
[21:10] <arbrandes> Aranel, that is, if you're upgrading from Gutsy.
[21:10] <fliegenderfrosch> Aranel: yes, if you want to use the console, else use "update-manager --devel-release", but don't expect fast speeds today
[21:10] <steindani> Hi! I'd like to install Konica Minolta 2500W under Ubuntu 8.04. Can anyone help?
[21:10] <Starnestommy> Mimi: you may want to consider installing mysql, apache, and php separately
[21:10] <bpr> how do i tell which package owns a given file?
[21:10] <Mimi> KyleK: ... it allows you to install software packs... in my case  I was going to install web server and such... :(
[21:10] <Wyleyrabbit> faemir: Thanks for the tip on brasero. That app burned the CD perfectly!
[21:10] <Acoustyk> how do i upgrade to 8.04?
[21:10] <Trikd1> any way to revert to Firefox 2 in Hardy?
[21:11] <Phoop> !upgrade
[21:11] <Acoustyk> i did sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:11] <Starnestommy> Acoustyk: use the update manager
[21:11] <Mimi> Starnestommy: thanks but i guess its too late now... :(
[21:11] <gba> bpr, dpkg -S
[21:11] <lch_> bpr: i used packages.ubuntu.com for that task
[21:11] <ubotu> For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[21:11] <consfearacy> is the latest ubuntu good?
[21:11] <guy_> hi all, anyone had problems with the CTRL key in Hardy? (ASUS V1J laptop here)
[21:11] <livingdaylight> i'm adding wav files to /usr/share/sounds to change login sound. Yet when i hit 'test' i get no sound??
[21:11] <faemir> Wyleyrabbit, no problem. Tis good app :D
[21:11] <Ashfire908> Acoustyk: dist-upgrade i think
[21:11] <Aranel> fliegenderfrosch: ok, I'm running update-manager --devel-release now, is it enough ?
[21:11] <Mimi> consfearacy:  yes, it's really really nice :)
[21:11] <Acoustyk> ah thanks
[21:11] <bpr> gba, lch_: thanks!
[21:11] <fliegenderfrosch> Acoustyk: its better to wait a few days, the servers are overheating anyway
[21:11] <Aranel> or Do I need additional commands ?
[21:11] <KyleK> Mimi: tasksel back to desktop :p
[21:11] <Acoustyk> ah k
[21:11] <Flare183> Acoustyk: nope
[21:11] <fliegenderfrosch> Aranel: there should appear a message about a new distro version available
[21:11] <KyleK> over hating servers :)
[21:11] <Wyleyrabbit> faemir: no kidding. In windows, I really like ImgBurn, but this appears a close second.
[21:12] <jonathan> Im having trouble using my scroll wheel. It works fine in windows, so I dont think its a hardware problem. Could someone help me?
[21:12] <Trikd1> Firefox 2 in Hardy?
[21:12] <fliegenderfrosch> Aranel: if not, you probably don't have the newest version of update-manager
[21:12] <hyjal> I'm hearing no sound from flash in hardy! I installed flash via "ubuntu restricted extras". It worked fine in gutsy. Any ideas?
[21:12] <Mimi> KyleK:  thanks for the reminder, i thought i was lost.... you're right :P Mmm.... i hope it doenst completely delete my wireless modules otherwise im poo'ed ;p
[21:12] <AtariMoe> I'm not sure how upgrading is for Hardy, but when I upgraded from Feisty to Gutsy I had some minor quirks... you might want to reinstall from the disk if you can
[21:12] <dD0T> Is there something like a mrtg visualisation of the ubuntu mirror servers? Would be very interesting to see the current load ;-)
[21:12] <Flare183> !hardy
[21:12] <ubotu> Hardy Heron is the codename for the current release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) You can get it now from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu but please use !torrents
[21:12] <Jomatam> Catalist control center says   no ATI driver   where i can see what drivers I have and from where I can install them?
[21:12] <jpt9> hey.
[21:12] <jpt9> does Wubi work on Vista?
[21:12] <Aranel> fliegenderfrosch:  In fact, I'm installing it now :)
[21:12] <Mimi> Jomatam:  is this for hardy?
[21:12] <KyleK> Mimi: reinstall it before you reboot :) it wont have deleted firmware or ndiswrapper drivers
[21:13] <Jomatam> yea
[21:13] <Aranel> I dont have a program named update-manager
[21:13] <Ashfire908> jpt9: from screenshots i've seen, yes.
[21:13] <fliegenderfrosch> Aranel: with acceptable download speeds?
[21:13] <jpt9> I've that there heard issues since Vista doesn't use boot.ini.
[21:13] <Mimi> .... neat.....! thanks for the awesome tip KyleK xD!
[21:13] <guy_> aranel: system > administration menu
[21:13] <Aranel> fliegenderfrosch: I'm installing update-manager , not new distro :) i dont know.
[21:13] <Aranel> fliegenderfrosch: but I'm running Kubuntu. Is it important ?
[21:13] <grindhold> my sound doesn'T work after the upgrade i had OSS before. may anyone help me?
[21:13] <Jack_Sparrow> jpt9, read the wubi faq carefully including the warnings...
[21:13] <arbrandes> Aranel, download the torrent iso, burn it, put the cd in, and follow instructions.  It'll be much faster.
[21:13] <milly1234> any download speed is acceptable to me, as long as I can restart were I left off, torrents pretty nice for that
[21:13] <Mimi> lol i dont even have the gnome panel anymore... i suspect tasksel is gonna kill gnome real soon... this might be my last words...
[21:13] <Mimi> lol
[21:14] <milly1234> torrent was slower for me, but it can restart and stop at any time without problems
[21:14] <KyleK> hah
[21:14] <Fishscene> UBuntu 8.04 Torrents are out? I couldn't find the link for them
[21:14] <fliegenderfrosch> Aranel: have a look at !upgrade
[21:14] <Starnestommy> Fishscene: see the topic message
[21:14] <milly1234> Fishscene, in the topic
[21:14] <arbrandes> Fishscene, check the topic of the channel.
[21:14] <Fishscene> Starnestommy, thanks
[21:14] <Jomatam> for Ubuntu torrent  search Ubuntu releases
[21:15] <steindani> The repository is so slow, that I must wait up to 5 seconds to download anything.
[21:15] <steindani> Can I use an other rep.?
[21:15] <twistage> Anyone have problems with static noises in Exaile under Hardy?
[21:15] <XB23> guys whats it mean
[21:15] <XB23> ifup: couldn't read interfaces file "/etc/network/interfaces"
[21:15] <fliegenderfrosch> Aranel: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[21:15] <XB23> /etc/network/interfaces:2: misplaced option
[21:15] <arbrandes> All torrents: http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[21:15] <Daniel^> when running quake1 and quake2 in ubuntu i have some keyboard problems, like some keys wont work, and if i bind them in game i get the error that they are unknow keys
[21:15] <Aranel> fliegenderfrosch: I tried. But Its downloading only 400~ Meg file. same of the dist-upgrade .
[21:15] <Trikd1> anybody know how to get Firefox 2?
[21:15] <Jomatam> Were I can find what drivers I have and how I can het ati driver
[21:15] <steindani> http://drop.io/ubuntutorrent
[21:15] <Starnestommy> Trikd1: I think there's a firefox2 package
[21:16] <jconnolly> anyone else having problems downloading from us.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[21:16] <jconnolly> <IP_ADDRESS>
[21:16] <steindani> Trikd1: I could tell you... open private
[21:16] <lrp> hello everyone
[21:16] <lrp> i have a question
[21:16] <arbrandes> jconnolly, yes, it's completely swamped.
[21:16] <Starnestommy> jconnolly: It's being very slow for me
[21:16] <lrp> how can i connect to a remote mirror in ubuntu ?
[21:16] <Starnestommy> all four IPs on that hostname, even
[21:16] <fliegenderfrosch> Trikd1: i thought ff2 was installed by default, as firefox-2 or similar
[21:16] <milly1234> jconnolly, probably so many downloading it is near its limits
[21:16] <Jack_Sparrow> diggduggz, yes, select manual partitioningjcoextreemly busy, and I would expect them to be that way through the weekend
[21:16] <lrp> you know im totally new using ubunty and i dont know how is the structure  in sources.list
[21:16] <jconnolly> is there something new out today?
[21:16] <Starnestommy> fliegenderfrosch: the new release usues firefox 3 by default
[21:16] <lrp> any hand or howto doing that ?
[21:17] <Starnestommy> jconnolly: ubuntu 8.04
[21:17] <arbrandes> jconnolly, lol, yes, the new Ubuntu.
[21:17] <Jack_Sparrow> jconnolly, extreemly busy, and I would expect them to be that way through the weekend
[21:17] <jconnolly> ohhh
[21:17] <Stop_It> (21:16:46) (jconnolly) is there something new out today? <--Yes, Ubuntu ver 8.04
[21:17] <cham_eleon> My IDE hdd is not recognized by the hardy kernel, with gutsy everything works fine. My sata devices are working fine, only one IDE hdd is not working... does anyone have an idea?
[21:17] <lch_> Jack_Sparrow: tries to answer many questions in one line ;-)
[21:17] <jconnolly> I have Hardy already
[21:17] <fliegenderfrosch> Starnestommy: i know, but I thought ff2 was installed as well
[21:17] <jconnolly> ;D
[21:17] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[21:17] <dny> whats the command to chmod a folder(and all files/folders in it) to have all permissions to everyone?
[21:17] <arbrandes> jconnolly, hehehe
[21:17] <Stop_It> Sod
[21:17] <fliegenderfrosch> Starnestommy: i might be wrong though, i don't use hardy yet
[21:17] <js_> does the update manager hang for anyone else?
[21:17] <Jack_Sparrow> js_, yes
[21:17] <arbrandes> js_, yes, the servers are swamped.
[21:17] <js_> dny: you don't want to do that
[21:17] <jconnolly> js_ servers are swamped
[21:17] <js_> swamp swamp
[21:17] <arbrandes> It's all a big bog.
[21:17] <milly1234> dny, if you must chmod 777
[21:17] <dny> js_ well, then for root and myself :x
[21:17] <jordanjay29> I'm having an issue with VPN, cisco package network-manager-vpnc. Not able to configure the connection correctly to the network. My Uni's got a .pcf file for it, but their most recent version is incompatible with kernel 2.6.
[21:17] <milly1234> dny, I don't advise it though
[21:17] <js_> i'll try tomorrow then
[21:17] <twistage> Is "purge" interchangeable with "remove"?
[21:17] <OllieA> Hi
[21:18] <Abd> ubuntu servers are overloaded with traffic
[21:18] <arbrandes> js_, try next week, or the torrents.
[21:18] <lch_> OllieA: nex time you ask if someone is seeing you, dont leave in the same second...
[21:18] <jpt9> what is the maximum file size on an NTFS partition?  Will a 5GB disk image even work for Wubi on an NTFS drive?
[21:18] <fliegenderfrosch> twistage: afaik purge also removes configs
[21:18] <Stop_It> Just doing the install within windows, i'm guessing I dont miss out on anything (Apart from Hibernate) by doing so? I can still install stuff on there etc?
[21:18] <Jomatam> hei  were I can see what drivers I have and where i can get ATI radeon 9250
[21:18] <Kcaj> Is it possible to have all the Windows machines in my imemdiate vicinity log on to and authenticate as Ubuntu users at start up?
[21:18] <dny> milly1234 whats the number for just root and myself?
[21:18] <OllieA> I need to use the 1024x768 screen res but not in drop down box, how do I add it to box?
[21:18] <milly1234> dny, change the folders owner with chown to yourself
[21:18] <exploid> the torrents are slower then what I thought...
[21:18] <fliegenderfrosch> Jomatam: just use the restricted driver manager
[21:18] <bullium> has anyone else lost their number keypad since the upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04? NumLock is on but my number keys do not work?
[21:18] <fserve> hi
[21:19] <milly1234> don't use the 777, its for everyone
[21:19] <dny> milly1234 well its the /var/www/ folder, so idk if it need sto have root as user or not
[21:19] <fliegenderfrosch> bullium: check the config dialog, i think there is an option there
[21:19] <arbrandes> exploid, the desktop torrent is pretty fast.  the alternate is ok.  The DVD is kinda slow.
[21:19] <ere4si> !ati | Jomatam
[21:19] <ubotu> Jomatam: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:19] <Jomatam> I also have resolution problem
[21:19] <Jack_Sparrow> jpt9, it will work..  but you would need to defrag as it needs continious space.. personally , I wont risk my windows ntfs for the sake of wubi
[21:19] <tigran> fliegenderfrosch:  I'm having trouble getting nvidia driver to work, I installed today, and in Hardware Driver it says that nvidia_new is enabled but not in use and in xorg the driver says vesa, any idea?
[21:19] <Trikd1> Starnestommy: where would i find this package?
[21:19] <Assid> arbrandes: not many people seeding it thats why
[21:19] <Jomatam> yea ATI Radeon 9250
[21:19] <arbrandes> Assid, the DVD? yes, that's why.
[21:19] <exploid> arbrandes: Ièm downloading desktop
[21:19] <bullium> fliegenderfrosch: config dialog?
[21:19] <Starnestommy> Trikd1: it should be in the package manager
[21:19] <bullium> fliegenderfrosch: not sure where that is
[21:19] <wuxia> how does 8.04 desktop and server differ?
[21:19] <jpt9> Jack_Sparrow: why would it be risky?
[21:19] <timUR123> What do u think about debian Sid linux it seems much fasyer than ubuntu ??
[21:19] <john47> question: I dont have a separate "home" partition on my computer...will upgrading to hardy heron from gutsy wipe out the files in my home folder??
[21:19] <arbrandes> exploid, desktop comes at over 300kbps, here.
[21:19] <fliegenderfrosch> bullium: the keyboard config dialog in ubuntu
[21:19] <Kcaj> Jack_Sparrow
[21:19] <Assid> if peoople started seeding that.. would be fun
[21:19] <OllieA> I need to use the 1024x768 screen res but not in drop down box, how do I add it to box?
[21:19] <[tla]> Hi.  Anyone have a working vmware-tools source / patches for Hardy / 8.0?
[21:19] <evand> jpt9: Yes, it will work fine.  NTFS max file size is 16 EiB
[21:19] <Kcaj> For anybody else interestedmy problem earlier
[21:19] <Fishscene> wuxia, server is geared more for "server" roles.
[21:19] <exploid> arbrandes: 50 :s
[21:19] <Kcaj> Was caused by changing the host name
[21:20] <nownot> just got 8.04 and when i do sudo apt-get install perlmagick i get couldnt find package perlmagick
[21:20] <fliegenderfrosch> bullium: could be the mouse config dialog, i haven't tried it myself
[21:20] <Kcaj> After changing the host name you have to log back in
[21:20] <Jack_Sparrow> jpt9, read the wubi faq
[21:20] <Kcaj> or else the GUI is virtually broken
[21:20] <wuxia> Fishscene: yes, is there a online list of the actual differences?
[21:20] <Jomatam> I so that howto.   It is not for hardy and i didn't understood how to use it
[21:20] <arbrandes> Assid, yes, because then we could use the DVD to upgrade, instead of the bogged servers.
[21:20] <Trikd1> Starnestommy: would i need to add anything to have it appear there? all im seeing is firefox 3
[21:20] <lch_> john47: no, just use the update manager to upgrade
[21:20] <fliegenderfrosch> bullium: there should be a checkbox where the numpad can be enabled/disabled
[21:20] <john47> lch_: whew, many thanks....I was worried....
[21:20] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > timUR123
[21:20] <bad_cables> what is the chan for ubustu/
[21:20] <bad_cables> ?
[21:20] <Starnestommy> Trikd1: it might have a different name, but I am pretty sure that it's in the repositores
[21:20] <nownot> ? anyone 8.04 with perlmagick?
[21:20] <timUR123> Jack_Sparrow,  what ?
[21:20] <gaurav__> hi, i upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 beta, ever since i upgraded i had a bug where the gdm login would not load, however the orange background and mouse cursor would load but it never gets to the login prompt... i have now upgraded fully to 8.04 and the bug is still there, i get no gdm login window... anyone have any ideas?
[21:20] <Starnestommy> *repositories
[21:21] <arbrandes> bad_cables, ubustu? this is ubuntu ;)
[21:21] <Jack_Sparrow> timUR123, you are offtopic
[21:21] <lrp> you know im totally new using ubunty and i dont know how is the structure  in sources.list i need a hand doing this
[21:21] <Theo_> In CLI: How do I combine two text files?
[21:21] <jpt9> Jack_Sparrow: I did.  But don't you have the same risk of filesystem corruption regardless of OS if you kill the power without properly shutting down?
[21:21] <OllieA> I need to use the 1024x768 screen res but not in drop down box, how do I add it to box?
[21:21] <bad_cables> ubuntu studio with the rt kernel
[21:21] <bad_cables> for music
[21:21] <wx9j> 4 failed installs of Ubuntu, one of Debian, all stall at "scanning Mirrors" at 40% ..... any clues ?????
[21:21] <bullium> fliegenderfrosch: any idea why that would change on the upgrade? I've got a few other weird issues like this as well...
[21:21] <kestaz> so how hardy ?
[21:21] <ere4si> !res > OllieA
[21:21] <lch_> john47: im upgrading that way right now, hope i'm right ;-) (well it used to work for previous dist upgrades. pyckup your precious data anyway)
[21:21] <arbrandes> wx9j, servers are swamped.
[21:21] <Kcaj> wx9j: Fate
[21:21] <fliegenderfrosch> bullium: no idea, i just heard someone else had the same issue
[21:21] <jordanjay29> I'm having an issue with VPN, cisco package network-manager-vpnc. Not able to configure the connection correctly to the network. My Uni's got a .pcf file for it, but their most recent version is incompatible with kernel 2.6. I've thus had little luck converting the info in the .pcf file to the VPN config utility. The pcf has encryption keys, which I'm not sure what to do with.
[21:21] <hanasakiRemote> what do I run to do the update to the release that just came out
[21:21] <Fishscene> Wuxia, Server: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/serveredition ,  Desktop: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/WhatIsUbuntu/desktopedition
[21:21] <vlad> hi people im havng a problem trying to download packages from add/remove programs when it begins to download it doesnt show any progress
[21:21] <Jack_Sparrow> jpt9, I wont use it.. feel free to do so...
[21:22] <arbrandes> vlad, servers are swamped.
[21:22] <vlad> :O
[21:22] <vlad> as i thought
[21:22] <vlad> :D
[21:22] <wx9j> arbrandes, does that happen often ? never seen it before.
[21:22] <OllieA> ere4si: I hav looked at that and it doesn't work
[21:22] <lch_> vlad:  ubuntu release day, servers are sloooow..
[21:22] <nownot> how do i fix ubuntu couldn't find package
[21:22] <vlad> yeah
[21:22] <andycaas1> Why doesnt emerald keep the titlebar after i try to exit terminal (its running emerald --replace)
[21:22] <vlad> i thught that
[21:22] <arbrandes> wx9j, no today is the release of the new ubuntu.
[21:22] <john47> lch_: oh, ok, I thought you knew for sure...Has anyone else upgraded via the update manager without damaging data files in the home folder???
[21:22] <NeT_DeMoN> in synaptics, what do i need to search for to get my x.org binarys for my ATI graphics card?
[21:22] <vlad> ill wait then
[21:22] <tigran> Is there a nvidia-glx-new package in 8.04
[21:22] <vlad> thx
[21:22] <jordanjay29> Anybody for helping on Cisco VPN client?
[21:22] <jpt9> if it's so risky, why did they include it?  It seems silly to have a tool that makes it easy for beginners/Linux noobs to try Ubuntu, but that has a horrible risk of wreaking havoc on the user's data...
[21:22] <ere4si> OllieA: have you installed the drivers for your vid card?
[21:22] <bullium> fliegenderfrosch: at least I'm not the only one...does emerld manager not control themes anymore? it will not change my them now?
[21:22] <Starnestommy> arbrandes: try emerald --replace & disown
[21:22] <AtariMoe> wx9j: you're trying to upgrade, not fresh install, correct?
[21:22] <Assid> okay this isnt stable
[21:22] <fliegenderfrosch> NeT_DeMoN: use the restricted manager
[21:22] <Assid> its still hanging for me
[21:22] <OllieA> ere4si: Dunno :P
[21:23] <rinaldi_> tigran: yes there is
[21:23] <wx9j> arbrandes, now I feel lke a tool. thanks
[21:23] <[T]-Rex> yo
[21:23] <nownot> how do i fix ubuntu couldn't find package
[21:23] <arbrandes> wx9j, heh, we all do ;)
[21:23] <Assid> hellp :!:(
[21:23] <ere4si> OllieA: what's the card?
[21:23] <fliegenderfrosch> bullium: emerald manager never controlled themes, only window decorations
[21:23] <tigran> rinaldi_: Umm E: Package nvidia-glx has no installation candidate
[21:23] <OllieA> ere4si: No idea :P
[21:23] <NeT_DeMoN> fliegenderfrosch: ok
[21:23] <tigran> rinaldi_: same for new
[21:23] <Jack_Sparrow> jpt9, the risk is minimal, but I wont use it...  I was against them including it
[21:23] <KyleK> how do I simplify the firefox 3 auto complete?
[21:23] <lch_> john47: i'm sure, i would not do the upgrade that way else..
[21:23] <jpt9> Jack_Sparrow: oh.
[21:23] <the_darkside_986> everyone else having the same Nvidia problem?
[21:23] <jordanjay29> I'm having an issue with VPN, cisco package network-manager-vpnc. Not able to configure the connection correctly to the network. My Uni's got a .pcf file for it, but their most recent version is incompatible with kernel 2.6. I've thus had little luck converting the info in the .pcf file to the VPN config utility. The pcf has encryption keys, which I'm not sure what to do with.
[21:23] <wx9j> AtariMoe, No was showing a MCSE how easy to install over windows this was :)
[21:23]  * [T]-Rex finally has ubuntu installed! :)
[21:23] <bullium> fliegenderfrosch: opps wrong words...it isn't changing my decorations after the upgrade
[21:23] <rbs-tito> KyleK: What do you mean?
[21:24] <ere4si> OllieA: open a terminal and type    lspci | grep vga   that will tell you
[21:24] <fliegenderfrosch> bullium: is emerald running?
[21:24] <exploid> someone should set the topic to something including the packages are slow
[21:24] <Jomatam> On hardy heron I cant find in resolution settings 1280x1024, i can't find how to change my monitor, set up video card or it's driver. using comand... xorg resolutions did not appeared. And that How to for graphic cards was not very useful. HELP
[21:24] <Daliuso> Hello. I am trying to get my wireless internet card (Broadcom BCM43XG) working. When I type "sudo lshw -C network", it gives my on-board ethernet and it also shows my wireless which is listed as "UNCLAIMED"... any tips on how to get this working?
[21:24] <arbrandes> exploid, agreed.
[21:24] <bullium> let me check my session
[21:24] <rbs-tito> !broadcom | Daliuso
[21:24] <john47> lch_: ok...i will backup my files before I attempt to upgrade to hardy just to be 100 percent sure...
[21:24] <andycaas1> Why doesnt emerald keep the titlebar after i try to exit terminal (its running emerald --replace)
[21:24] <the_darkside_986> I just installed Ubuntu Hardy--clean install--and everything is dreadfully laggy and slow and I can't get Nvidia restricted to be enabled. The box is checked but it says it is not in use no matter what.
[21:24] <bullium> fliegenderfrosch: let me check my session
[21:24] <Assid> okay pidgin irc plugin slows down my machine :(
[21:24] <KyleK> well if I type a letter like C instead of getting sites that begin with C I get like .com matches
[21:24] <Daliuso> Thanks rbs-tito
[21:24] <Daliuso> !broadcom
[21:24] <jordanjay29> !broadcom
[21:24] <AtariMoe> wx9j: i see... i was going to suggest the alternate install cd if you were fresh-installing; i had problems with the xubuntu live cd on some old hardware that the alternate CD worked with
[21:24] <Odd-rationale> why doesn't "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" give as many options anymore in hardy? Where do I go to choose vidoe driver, resolution, etc?
[21:24] <nickt> is there a reason why a restricted driver would have been included last version but not 8.04
[21:24] <rbs-tito> Daliuso: Sorry, I thought that worked
[21:24] <exploid> arbrandes: and if the topic should be smaller use the link http://www.acc.umu.se/~mighty/ubuntu/
[21:24] <rinaldi_> tigran: have you tried in synaptic? also apt-get update?
[21:24] <rbs-tito> Daliuso: I'll find it for you
[21:24] <OllieA> Hello?
[21:25] <Daliuso> lol its okay
[21:25] <Daliuso> thank you
[21:25] <Marfi> the_darkside_986, enable the extra repositories, then install nvidia-glx-new  ;)
[21:25] <jordanjay29> Anybody for helping on Cisco VPN client?
[21:25] <the_darkside_986> oh ok
[21:25] <KyleK> rbs-tito: i like the old auto complete better :)
[21:25] <arbrandes> exploid, problem is, I don't know who the ops are. :)
[21:25] <testname> hi
[21:25] <wx9j> AtariMoe, I always use the alt disc, today I tired both, both died same place, also the debian
[21:25] <ubotu> Daliuso: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Broadcom43xx
[21:25] <Jomatam> give as many options anymore in hardy? Where do I go to choose vidoe driver, resolution, etc?
[21:25] <rbs-tito> Daliuso: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx?action=show&redirect=WifiDocs%2FDriver%2FBroadcom43xx
[21:25] <john47> wow, it seems like lots of folks are having issues with hardy...maybe I should wait to upgrade.
[21:25] <exploid> arbrandes: yeah itès a big problem I guess :P
[21:25] <andry> jordanjay29: what is the problem with cisco vpn?
[21:25] <gord_slater> imagine, just imagine,  a perfect world where each ISP would transparently mirror the ISO file for a week after release...................
[21:25] <zilche> [pulse-audio help] My multimedia keys/gnome-volume-control isn't allowing me to vary the volume, while I can on pulse-audio's volume control, any help?
[21:25] <tigran> rinaldi_: Oops heh, right, it was timing out so I didnt do it, and I forgot.
[21:25] <rbs-tito> KyleK: What's the difference?
[21:25] <wx9j> AtariMoe, its a gate$ plot
[21:25]  * [T]-Rex anyone using irssi
[21:26] <DooMRunneR> hi
[21:26] <testname> does the update-manager automatically restart my system or do i haven't to worry about that?
[21:26] <arbrandes> gord_slater, heh, that's why there are torrents ;)
[21:26] <rbs-tito> KyleK: I see what you mean, it took some getting used to
[21:26] <nownot> how do i fix ubuntu couldn't find package
[21:26] <OllieA> ere4si: How do I find out my card?
[21:26] <rinaldi_> tigran: same. I had to do it a couple of times
[21:26] <Daliuso> Thanks guys
[21:26] <Odd-rationale> testname: it will not restart until you say so
[21:26] <tigran> rinaldi_: Its working now tho, I'll try to install the driver once its done
[21:26] <jimcooncat> gord_slater: apt-cacher too
[21:26] <fliegenderfrosch> nownot: what exactly do you mean?
[21:26] <Marfi> OllieA, lspci
[21:26] <Jack_Sparrow> nownot, the servers are swamped... just wait..
[21:26] <jordanjay29> andry: I'm having an issue with VPN, cisco package network-manager-vpnc. Not able to configure the connection correctly to the network. My Uni's got a .pcf file for it, but their most recent version is incompatible with kernel 2.6. I've thus had little luck converting the info in the .pcf file to the VPN config utility. The pcf has encryption keys, which I'm not sure what to do with.
[21:26] <testname> Odd-rationale, thanks
[21:26] <the_darkside_986> I've got all the repos enabled but I can't find any "nvidia-glx-new" or anything with "nvidia-glx"
[21:26] <tigran> rinaldi_: I had release days, so crazy
[21:26] <tigran> rinaldi_: hate*
[21:26] <jocke> Hmm, is the new release of gobuntu released now?
[21:26] <DooMRunneR> i have a linksys wusb54g ubs wifi card, anyone an idea how to set up this thing under hardy?
[21:26] <gord_slater> arbrandes: mines choked at about 3kb/s upload right now by  the ISP
[21:26] <rbs-tito> KyleK: Short of using FF2 I can't see what you can do
[21:26] <ere4si> OllieA: open a terminal - type   lspci | grep vga   - that will tell you
[21:26] <KyleK> :(
[21:27] <lch_> john47: consider that those with problems tend to speak up while the others where everything works are not even here ;-) but waiting a day or tow will also help for a faster download as the servers are overloaded right now
[21:27] <arbrandes> gord_slater, oh, yeah, there's THAT problem too :)
[21:27] <mh166|smith> hi everybody
[21:27] <breiti> hi mh166|smith
[21:27] <bullium> fliegenderfrosch: it doesn't look as if it was...why would that have changed...sorry for so many questions...seems like a lot of simple stuff is breaking...I've done at least to other upgrades (not on this machine) and haven't had any issues before...Have their been a lot of issues with upgrades?
[21:27] <AtariMoe> wx9j: oh... i don't have anymore to suggest on that then... a gate$ plot plausible enough
[21:27] <Cpudan80> Does anyone else get a scrollkeeper error when upgrading to Hardy?
[21:27] <Cpudan80> It says .... blackjack.xml:402 parser error : .... ?
[21:27] <bullium> fliegenderfrosch: I started emerald and it runs, but why would it have been disabled on the upgrade?
[21:27] <antonsky> join #ubuntu-de
[21:27] <gord_slater> arbrandes: its because of everyone sharing the latest holywood blockbuster "Hardy Heron does Global"
[21:27] <the_darkside_986> I get this: Package nvidia-glx-new is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[21:27] <Greyhound-> where is the restricted drivers manager in 8.04? I can't find it
[21:28] <arbrandes> gord_slater, hehehehe, sounds about right :)
[21:28] <andry> jordanjay29: import never worked for me. the inly way it worked to recreate vpn config in network manager applet
[21:28] <john47> lch_: Sounds good....I already downloaded an ISO of hardy this morning as soon as it went live, and it was fast.  Now that everyone is home from work and doing upgrades, I'm sure the servers are bogged down.
[21:28] <jlewis2979> Hi guy. Here's my problem. I'm trying to install ubuntu 8 on my vista ultimate laptop. I've downloaded the iso image and burnt it to a dvd using ashampoo. I then used disk management to resise my windows partition which created 35 gigabites of unallocated space. I then reset my computer with the dvd in. The setup menu loads but when i try to choose install or the "try before you install" option the ubuntu logo/load screen comes
[21:28] <fliegenderfrosch> bullium: not all upgrade issues are found in testing and can be fixed
[21:28] <bullium> fliegenderfrosch: I understand that :)
[21:28] <bicyclis1> gord_slater: For sure a movie i can highly recommend ;)
[21:28] <rbs-tito> Greyhound-: System > admin > hardware drivers
[21:28] <Ayabara> I'm trying to share files in samba, but can't see anything on my windows pc. how can I verify that my ubuntu is actually sharing the files?
[21:28] <livingdaylight> i needz help changing login sound
[21:28] <Greyhound-> but there's nothing there rbs-tito
[21:28]  * [T]-Rex yo
[21:28] <jordanjay29> andry: I tried that. I'm certain there are values missing, since my Uni's pcf file includes encryption keys. I'm not certain where the input for those are.
[21:28] <fliegenderfrosch> livingdaylight: in the login manager config afaik
[21:28] <rbs-tito> Greyhound-: It isn't called restricted anymore, it's called hardware
[21:28] <StuckMojo> hey is the mirror list mirrored anywhere?
[21:28] <lch_> john47: when you already have the CD you can boot it live to check if it works well on your PC before upgrading the installed system :-)
[21:28] <Jomatam> Ok  as I understan no one knows how to set up resolutions in Hardy what are not listed. And I even can't tell what dirivers I have and what i haven't.
[21:28] <danbhfive> Ayabara: try this site: http://www.europe.eclipse.co.uk/Ubuntu/Ubuntu-on-win-network.htm
[21:29] <Odd-rationale> How do I choose my video drivers, resolution, etc? I looked in the xorg file. I don't understand "Configured Video Device"... :?
[21:29] <rinaldi_> the_darkside_986: make sure when you do "sudo apt-get update" you don't time out. I had that a couple of times. the servers are slow
[21:29] <Greyhound-> I want to enable a driver for my nvidia mx440
[21:29] <mh166|smith> i got a problem with the ubuntu-installer (alternate-cd): when trying to configure the crypted partitions it shows me the message "starting up the partitioner" .... but hangs up at 47% .... then nothing happens anymore ... no chance to get this configured =/
[21:29] <livingdaylight> i added wav file to usr/share/sounds/ but when i test it don't work
[21:29] <compaqr4000> It seems like my grub did not get updated along with 8.04, any ideas why and how to fix that?
[21:29] <arbrandes> StuckMojo, lol, isn't that ironic?
[21:29] <MikeCulver> crdlb: I'm back.. and there seems to be no change.  glxinfo still returns the same error
[21:29] <nickt> greyhound-: let me know what you doing as I think i have that prob too - i have wireless restricted driver i need
[21:29] <StuckMojo> i'm just trying to do an apt-get upgrade and it's toast cus of all the iso downloaders
[21:29] <StuckMojo> arbrandes: hehe
[21:29] <arbrandes> StuckMojo, yup, same here
[21:29] <Jomatam> the same problem     How do I choose my video drivers, resolution, etc? I looked in the xorg file. I don't understand "Configured Video Device"... :?
[21:29] <jordanjay29> StuckMojo: servers are swamped, try again tomorrow
[21:29] <StuckMojo> can't get to the damn mirror list either
[21:29] <Greyhound-> nickt: I'm trying to enable a driver for my gfx card
[21:30] <rbs-tito> Greyhound-: Do you have administrator priveleges? Check in your user account and the new priveleges manager
[21:30] <john47> lch_: now, there's a fine idea!  I'm actually going to try to do the wubi install on my HP laptop.  I tried to install gutsy on it with disastrous results before (ie, had to reinstall windows, ie wipe the HD...my IT dept was not very happy with me! lol)
[21:30] <Jack_Sparrow> Jomatam, the new xorg is entirely different.. not sure how it all works myself yet
[21:30] <the_darkside_986> argh update is stuck at 87% at archive.ubuntu.com. why can't everyone just use torrents or alternative mirrors :(
[21:30] <Greyhound-> rbs-tito,  where's that?
[21:30] <arj> why arent you :)
[21:30] <Fa> i use torrents
[21:30] <fliegenderfrosch> Jack_Sparrow: a lot more is autoconfigured now
[21:30] <Fa> i'm seeding now :P
[21:30] <gaurav__> hi, i upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 beta, ever since i upgraded i had a bug where the gdm login would not load, however the orange background and mouse cursor would load but it never gets to the login prompt... i have now upgraded fully to 8.04 and the bug is still there, i get no gdm login window... anyone have any ideas? i think this is related to bug 210538
[21:30] <arbrandes> the_darkside_986, i wish more people used the DVD torrent, so then we could all upgrade without using the servers.
[21:30] <Jack_Sparrow> fliegenderfrosch, I got that much thanks
[21:30] <nickt> greyhound-: how do you add a driver - its a pain being wireless i cant play and chat as obviously cant get on net :(  will find info and reboot and try again
[21:30] <danbhfive> StuckMojo: use a torrent, and get the alternate cd, I think that would work
[21:31] <rbs-tito> Greyhound-: System > admin > authorisations
[21:31] <Jack_Sparrow> fliegenderfrosch, and you can still force your config using the xorg.conf
[21:31] <fr500> hmmm
[21:31] <andry> Jomatam: there is screen and graphics utility in system->administration. if it's not there install one
[21:31] <StuckMojo> danbhfive: no i'm already running hardy
[21:31] <fr500> framebuffer console doesnt work
[21:31] <john47> has anyone tried the wubi install on hardy?
[21:31] <StuckMojo> danbhfive: i just want to mod my sources.list so i can get updates
[21:31] <[BT]JaC> how can i set colors in terminal
[21:31] <MikeCulver> When libGL tries to load my r300_dri.so, i get an error about an unresolved symbol.  DRI and compiz will not work.
[21:31] <fliegenderfrosch> Jack_Sparrow: but i hope xorg.conf-editing will die out soon :)
[21:31] <arbrandes> StuckMojo your best bet for the weekend is the DVD torrent.
[21:32] <[BT]JaC> how can i set colors in terminal?
[21:32] <Jomatam> How it is called    that screen and graphic utility
[21:32] <tcpdumpgod> hmm, what happened to #ubuntu+1 ?
[21:32] <xtf> Hey everyone!
[21:32] <StuckMojo> arbrandes: i'm already running hardy
[21:32] <fliegenderfrosch> john47: how do you mean "on hardy"?
[21:32] <djm62> Can anyone update the UbuntuHashes page on the wiki to include Hardy?
[21:32] <Jack_Sparrow> fliegenderfrosch, there will always be a need for some way to manually configure odd hrdware
[21:32] <arbrandes> StuckMojo, I see, Sir Luke
[21:32] <tcpdumpgod> hi xtf
[21:32] <westherm> will fixes that worked in gutsy work on hardy
[21:32] <livingdaylight> fliegenderfrosch, interessant.... ich hätte gedacht das System>Preference>Sound dafür war_
[21:32] <SchighSchagh> how do I disconnect a USB device (ie: unload the device driver) without physically unplugging the device?
[21:32] <Seveas> westherm, depends on the fix
[21:32] <fliegenderfrosch> Jack_Sparrow: but at least one can use a projector now without editing this file
[21:32] <djm62> And also, can anyone point me to the md5 sums of the current release?
[21:32] <StuckMojo> arbrandes: i just want to be able to apt-get upgrade to get updates
[21:32] <xtf> Wat u doing tcpdumpgod?
[21:32] <westherm> i had to fix soundcards on a dell laptop
[21:32] <[BT]JaC> Seveas how can i set colors in terminal?
[21:33] <jordanjay29> andry: I'm normally asked for my username and password for VPN. In ubuntu, I'm asked for my password and group password. I think the group pass is the encryption key, but I'm unsure what password would be, then. I don't think it'll log me in with only my username or just my password
[21:33] <tim__b> djm62, do you need the file hashes?
[21:33] <jamiehale> Anyone else get Errno 5 on install?
[21:33] <arbrandes> StuckMojo, yeah, in that case, I suggest waiting a couple of days.
[21:33] <xda> is xorg suid?
[21:33] <StuckMojo> yeahhh yeah yeah
[21:33] <[BT]JaC> arbrandes how can i set colors in terminal?
[21:33] <djm62> tim__b: I downloaded from an extremely unverified source (no choice) so it would be nice
[21:33] <tcpdumpgod> nadda xtf... trying to find "#ubuntu+1"
[21:33] <Seveas> [BT]JaC, edit -> current profile (->) colors
[21:33] <john47> fliegenderfrosch: I mean has anyone used the hardy disk to install Ubuntu 8.04 within windows and dualbooted using the wubi install method...Flying frog - cool name!
[21:33] <SchighSchagh> how do I disconnect a USB device (ie: unload the device driver) without physically unplugging the device?\
[21:33] <pmasters_genie> help just upgraded to 8.04 and my wireless card no longer works :-(
[21:33] <[BT]JaC> Seveas - server edition
[21:33] <StuckMojo> maybe i'll use the wayback machine to find the mirrors page ;)
[21:33] <the_darkside_986> when's us.archive.ubuntu.com going to start working? am I going to be stuck in a broken nvidia state for the remainder of the week?
[21:33] <[BT]JaC> Seveas no desktop
[21:33] <xtf> oh... im so board
[21:33] <Jomatam> Got that   must wait cuple days for experts to get used to hardy
[21:33] <rinaldi_> SchighSchagh: right click on the device and click "unmount"
[21:33] <Theo_> In CLI: how do I combine text files
[21:33] <tcpdumpgod> What the hell does "#ubuntu+1 #ubuntu :Forwarding to another channel" mean guys?
[21:34] <mh166|smith> i got a problem with the ubuntu-installer (alternate-cd): when trying to configure the crypted partitions it shows me the message "starting up the partitioner" .... but hangs up at 47% .... then nothing happens anymore ... no chance to get this configured =/
[21:34] <arbrandes> StuckMojo, lol, that's actually not a bad idea
[21:34] <tim__b> djm62, get the hardymd5.txt from http://tinyurl.com/6avfwz it's a copy of the offical md5s
[21:34] <GNUtoo> hello, gnash is broken on ubuntu(doesn't play youtube videos) but the same version 0.8.2 works fine on gentoo...is it because ubuntu's gnash is compiled with gstreamer and i compiled the gentoo version with ffmpeg?
[21:34] <wild_oscar> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765426
[21:34]  * StuckMojo tries it
[21:34] <fliegenderfrosch> john47: i thought you meant installing ubuntu within ubuntu with wubi (maybe thats possible with wine? :) )
[21:34] <GNUtoo> it's on ubuntu hardy
[21:34] <djm62> tim__b: and also I noticed that the official page was un-updated so I thought I'd do the responsible thing...
[21:34] <Theo_> In CLI: how do I combine text files and remove duplicates?
[21:34] <Macpower|afk> moin
[21:34] <Jack_Sparrow> tcpdumpgod, + 1 no longer exists
[21:34] <Macpower|afk> hi
[21:34] <Seveas> [BT]JaC, you need escape codes then. read a bash tutorial :)
[21:34] <mh166|smith> hi Macpower|afk ^^
[21:34] <Greyhound-> rbs-tito, what exactly should I grant myself access too? there's nothing speicifically related to drivers...
[21:34] <arbrandes> Theo_: cat file1 file2 > combined_file
[21:34] <wild_oscar> if someone knows why this happens: Network IP's only available after /etc/init.d/networking restart...
[21:34] <tcpdumpgod> Jack_Sparrow, hmm... where would I go to discuss Hardy issues?
[21:34] <[BT]JaC> Seveas escape codes?
[21:34] <Theo_> will that remove duplicates?
[21:34] <fliegenderfrosch> tcpdumpgod: here
[21:34] <gord_slater> tcpdumpgod: the ubuntu+1 was for pre-release 8.04, now it released it forwards here
[21:34] <Teknoenie> hi all
[21:34] <fliegenderfrosch> tcpdumpgod: hardy is released now
[21:34] <djm62> tim__b: thanks, I'll take two uncorrelated unreliable sources to more-or-less be reliable ;-)
[21:35] <arbrandes> Theo_, duplicate what? lines? no
[21:35] <john47> fliegenderfrosh: yikes, no, I wouldn't do that.  No, I wanted to know if someone had successfully installed hardy within windows and what they thought of the process and result (in terms of speed, disk access, etc.)
[21:35] <Jack_Sparrow> tcpdumpgod, THis is the support room for hardy, discussions go to ubuntu-offtopic
[21:35] <xtf> Does enyone know how to setup a Primergy 600? this thing wont work?
[21:35] <westherm> is it recommended to stay with gutsy until a lot of the wrinkles have been ironed out
[21:35] <Teknoenie> how can I tell Ubuntu 8.04 to start NIS before NFS
[21:35] <fliegenderfrosch> tcpdumpgod: so its no longer ubuntu+1
[21:35] <Theo_> how can i remove duplicate words
[21:35] <StuckMojo> arbrandes: http://web.archive.org/web/20070702220402/www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors
[21:35] <tcpdumpgod> oooh gord_slater ! I dint know Hardy was released.
[21:35] <tcpdumpgod> When did that happen
[21:35] <tcpdumpgod> yesterday/today?
[21:35] <Fishscene> Today
[21:35] <fliegenderfrosch> today
[21:35] <Jack_Sparrow> now
[21:35] <rbs-tito> Greyhound-: Come to think of it, it shouldn't make a difference if you are using sudo. Is there much missing from your admin menu?
[21:35] <gord_slater> today
[21:35] <tcpdumpgod> Sweet!
[21:35] <OppTupacShakur> na Macpower|afk nu frag mal los :P
[21:35] <tcpdumpgod> Should I change my sources.list for the release?
[21:35] <arbrandes> StuckMojo, hehehe, cool
[21:35] <mh166|smith> i got a problem with the ubuntu-installer (alternate-cd): when trying to configure the crypted partitions it shows me the message "starting up the partitioner" .... but hangs up at 47% .... then nothing happens anymore ... no chance to get this configured =/
[21:35] <mh166|smith> i got a problem with the ubuntu-installer (alternate-cd): when trying to configure the crypted partitions it shows me the message "starting up the partitioner" .... but hangs up at 47% .... then nothing happens anymore ... no chance to get this configured =/
[21:35] <Jack_Sparrow> tcpdumpgod, updates and upgrades will be dead slow...
[21:35] <tcpdumpgod> Or just leave "hardy" in there?
[21:35] <tcpdumpgod> Yeah, I can imagine.
[21:35] <fliegenderfrosch> tcpdumpgod: leave it
[21:36] <SchighSchagh> rinaldi_ I'm trying to connect my iPhone to a VMware guest OS (WinXP). my host OS is gutsy (naturally). the iPhone isn't mounted anywhere, but VMware can't connect it
[21:36] <tcpdumpgod> okay fliegenderfrosch !
[21:36] <rbs-tito> Greyhound-: Try running "gksu -D /usr/share/applications/jockey-gtk.desktop /usr/bin/jockey-gtk"
[21:36] <gord_slater> u mean u didnt notice 1700 ppl in  a channel and thought "what?"
[21:36] <fliegenderfrosch> tcpdumpgod: after a normal upgrade you have the final hard
[21:36] <Greyhound-> well I don't really know what should be tehre.. I'm on the livecd
[21:36] <tcpdumpgod> word!
[21:36] <erle-> how often does ubuntu check for updates?
[21:36] <somethingunique> what are the most common problems people are having with hardy so far?
[21:36] <fliegenderfrosch> erle-: is configurable, daily per default
[21:36] <mrkeishii> dang I'm downloading the torrent fast
[21:36] <dressing> Vmware Server fails to complile under 8.04. has anyone managed it?