[04:22] <ArrenLex> k3b: that's a bug. You must be using an old version.
[04:22] <rummik> k3b_Sucks: what is this k3b you speak of? where i come from we use dd to burn cds...
[04:22] <k3b_Sucks> ubuntu 5.1
[04:22] <wasabi_> Add yourself to the cdrom group.
[04:22] <wasabi_> And that's it.
[04:23] <k3b_Sucks> I am already in that group
[04:23] <wasabi_> Then check why you can't burn.
[04:23] <ArrenLex> k3b; why don't you upgrade ubuntu?
[04:23] <wasabi_> Try cdrecord, see if it has heartburn.
[04:23] <wasabi_> If so, report a meaningful bug.
[04:24] <k3b_Sucks> what about installing a windows burner and windows emulator????
[04:24] <wasabi_> A windows emulator will not likely let you burn.
[04:24] <wasabi_> As burning requires lower level access to the drive than any emulator would grant.
[04:24] <ArrenLex> wasabi: that's actually not true. wine with nero will let you burn. Maybe.
[04:24] <wasabi_> Who knows. Maybe vmware fixed that.
[04:24] <wasabi_> Will it?
[04:24] <wasabi_> Also, wine is not an emulator. ;)
[04:24] <ArrenLex> wasabi: depends on your system. Wine can access devices directly, though.
[04:25] <ArrenLex> wasabi: wine is an emulator =P just not a processor emulator.
[04:25] <ArrenLex> wine is an API emulator.
[04:25] <wasabi_> Yeah I know.
[04:25] <rummik> hmm...this is strange
[04:25] <wasabi_> Yeah, looks like you're right. Nero should work.
[04:25] <wasabi_> Neato. ;)
[04:25] <shriphani> gr8 i wrote my 1st prog in c
[04:25] <wasabi_> Oh wow. Nero releases a REAL linux version too
[04:26] <rummik> why is it that /i/ get the dns issues? ;P
[04:26] <ArrenLex> shriphani: I suggest you learn english before learning c.
[04:26] <wasabi_> http://www.nero.com/eng/NeroLINUX.html
[04:26] <shriphani> wasabi, there is summat called nero linux
[04:26] <shriphani> ArrenLex, oh
[04:26] <Drac|Server> Whoa... why is this kernel image taking an AGE to download? Have Breezy repositories had their bandwidth cut off or something?
[04:26] <ArrenLex> wasabi: yes it does. It's almost laughably simple, though. It can't do anything except burn a data cd from files in a folder.
[04:26] <rummik> anyone know of a good place to get dns?
[04:27] <rummik> i'd like to update some packages..but dns broke..again
[04:27] <shriphani> dns is the nameserver.... correct me if i am wrong ?
[04:27] <flyinghippo> I believe o.
[04:27] <flyinghippo> *so
[04:28] <shriphani> and you want a nameserver ?
[04:28] <rummik> no, just the ip of one, dns broke on my end...
[04:28] <shriphani> rummik, your isp should have given you one
[04:28] <shriphani> or he has a DHCP server
[04:29] <rummik> shriphani: well, the dsl modem is half busted...so i'd say that is my broken link...so to speak
[04:29] <shriphani> heh
[04:30] <rummik> it keeps saying that security.ubuntu.com has an ip of <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:30] <rummik> among other sites...
[04:31] <OmniD> Okay I have a problem with my external drive
[04:31] <OmniD> All of a sudden it sometimes goes into unwritable mode
[04:31] <OmniD> As in I can't copy things over to it for just no reason
[04:32] <OmniD> In fact something is still copying over to it just fine but anything else I add it says I cannot
[04:32] <OmniD> it has plenty of space though
[04:32] <Diego> Question. I have a ton of music currently stored somewhere. I'm using this WinXP partition that I just installed. I plan to install Ubuntu later today, make its partitions etc.
[04:32] <Diego> Where should the music be?
[04:32] <Diego> In the Win partition or in the /home partition? Will one be accessible to the other?
[04:32] <shriphani> Diego, if its on your windows partition it should be accessible in linux
[04:33] <shriphani> the other way round aint possible
[04:33] <mnepton> shriphani: yes it is
[04:33] <mnepton> there is an ext3 driver for XP that is of pretty good quality. and personally, i'd rather have my data relying on ext3 than ntfs
[04:34] <mnepton> http://fs-driver.org
[04:34] <shriphani> yes you need to install ext3 drivers named umm ext2fs
[04:34] <Drac|Server> Should an Audigy 2 card work automatically with the provided emu10k1 driver, or do I need to get a newer one via CVS?
[04:34] <definity_> when i go n youtube the audio start to lag on a 2 second delay can anyone help?
[04:34] <mnepton> definity_: Macrodobe can when they fix the Flash player for Linux ;)
[04:35] <Drac|Server> definity_, youtube uses flash, which, unfortunately, is of poor quality on Linux. This isn't a Linux problem. It's an Adobe problem. :(
[04:35] <CorpseFeeder> my connection dropped.
[04:35] <definity_> hmm damm oh well
[04:35] <definity_> thanks anyway
[04:35] <CorpseFeeder> can anyone help with video capture card?
[04:35] <Drac|Server> definity_, I find that if you seek just right it's okay for a little bit.
[04:35] <mnepton> they claim the soon-to-be-released Flash player 9 for i386 is much better
[04:35] <ArrenLex> definity: try this: go to /etc/firefox/firefoxrc and change the line to FIREFOX_DSP="aoss". Make sure you have alsa-oss installed.
[04:35] <Diego> Well, the better question is, assuming I want to use P2P and torrent for getting more music, will I be able to have all the music in one place? i.e. download a torrent in Ubuntu and store it in the same place that LimeWire downloads go or something.
[04:36] <shriphani> Diego, sure
[04:36] <Drac|Server> Anyone regarding my Audigy 2?
[04:36] <Diego> Excellent. Thanks.
[04:36] <rcmiv> top
[04:37] <rcmiv> oops, wrong keyboard
[04:37] <rcmiv> heh
[04:39] <CorpseFeeder> i need help with using DC10+ video capture card. Can anyone help me?
[04:40] <CorpseFeeder> Also I need help with mic volume settings... it seems to be stuck on 0% volume and I can't change it.
[04:41] <Nox2k3> Hey does anyone know what would case the /dev/dri/ device nodes to not appear? lsmod claims the modules are loaded and dmesg claims it loaded, or found my card?
[04:41] <Nox2k3> i've got one of those ATI Radeon Xpresses
[04:42] <ArrenLex> Nox2k3: you can have mine; I don't need it =P
[04:42] <Nox2k3> heh
[04:42] <Nox2k3> if only
[04:42] <ArrenLex> Nox2k3: are you using the correct driver? Do you have the dri extension loaded?
[04:42] <Nox2k3> in X? X is complaining about not finding the device node.
[04:43] <Nox2k3> or not being able to open it rather
[04:43] <ArrenLex> Okay. What driver? Do you have the dri extension?
[04:43] <ArrenLex> Pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[04:43] <ArrenLex> !pastebin
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[04:44] <Nox2k3> Mind if I pastebin that, along with lsmod, the X log, and the kernel boot log?
[04:44] <ArrenLex> Go ahead.
[04:48] <Nox2k3> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/26827/
[04:48] <Nox2k3> i also added lspci in there
[04:48] <CorpseFeeder> I can't change my mic volume. It's stuck on 0%. look here - this is what I see - http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y265/BlackDalek/Screenshot.png
[04:49] <ArrenLex> Corpse: what if you click on the speaker with an x through it?
[04:50] <kromel> Hello. Umm, I tried updating one of my PC's to Edgy from Dapper.  Didn't go to well. While trying to run in recovery mode, it loads up, then I finally get to the prompt.  It acts like my keyboard isn't plugged in.
[04:50] <CorpseFeeder> isn't the speaker for output? And therefore supposed to have an X through it? I can move the volume slider up, but the setting is not saved and reverts back to 0%
[04:51] <simtower> anyone know of any faqs for getting dapper to hibernate properly?
[04:51] <ArrenLex> kromel: you mean, dapper to edgy?
[04:51] <kromel> ArrenLex, yes.
[04:51] <CorpseFeeder> OK, i removed the X from the speaker under mic and it still reverts to 0% volume
[04:51] <Nox2k3> oh wait, apparently I don't currently have drm loaded, I rebooted recently and haven't yet tried loading it
[04:52] <wastrel> drm
[04:52] <CorpseFeeder> It's as though I don't have permissions to change the volume on the mic.. how do I fix this?
[04:52] <ArrenLex> Nox2k3: what are you trying to achieve? Rendering acceleration?
[04:52] <Nox2k3> yes
[04:52] <Nox2k3> and being able to sleep my laptop
[04:53] <ArrenLex> Nox2k3: you're not getting 3D acceleration with that driver.
[04:53] <kromel> I don't mind reinstalling Ubuntu, but I have some files I would really like to recover.  Stupid me forgot to backup those files.
[04:53] <Nox2k3> i was under the impression that the opensource driver provides accelleration?
[04:53] <Nox2k3> acceleration*
[04:53] <ArrenLex> 1018. (**) RADEON(0): Initializing Acceleration
[04:53] <ArrenLex> 1019. (II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration unsupported on Radeon 9500/9700 and newer.
[04:53] <ArrenLex> 1020. (II) RADEON(0): Render acceleration disabled
[04:53] <ArrenLex> Not to your card.
[04:53] <Nox2k3> interesting, I must have misread then
[04:54] <ArrenLex> Nox2k3: the open source radeon driver DOES provide 3D acceleration to old ATI radeon cards. Not newer ones.
[04:55] <Paul928> Help! can't update . I get a error message. " Could not connect to localhost:4001 (<IP_ADDRESS>). - connect (111 Connection refused)
[04:55] <ubuntu> im gonna destroy my live CD right after burn the new version
[04:55] <ubuntu> damn
[04:55] <ubuntu> it crashed again
[04:55] <Nox2k3> well then
[04:55] <host`> it's trying to connect to your loopback address
[04:55] <Nox2k3> do you know if its yet possible to convince the fglrx driver to sleep properly?
[04:55] <ArrenLex> Nox2k3: I can't even convince the fglrx driver to use xv properly. =P
[04:56] <Paul928> host_I know. do you know how to fix it?
[04:56] <ArrenLex> Nox2k3: I always recommend nvidia for Linux if you need 3d accel.
[04:56] <Nox2k3> so do I
[04:56] <Nox2k3> but I don't have that option on cheap laptops
[04:56] <Nox2k3> or didn't when I purchased this thing
[04:56] <ArrenLex> If you bought a cheap laptop you should have been properly cheap and bought yourself an intel integrated.
[04:56] <ArrenLex> GPL drivers.
[04:57] <Nox2k3> intel integrated accel is crap though
[04:57] <justin420> hi. i am trying to install linux, and it appears that the install likes to stall at 88% done, while setting up the clock. there are no partitions currently on the drive other than what was made by the install program.  i have checked the disc for errors, and it says its fine. anybody have any ideas?
[04:57] <ArrenLex> Nox2k3: is it worse than what acceleration you have now? =P
[04:57] <whyso> hi, i made the ubuntu CD, but when i am at the first menu and i hit instal/start or check CD for errors it jsut says "loading" forever, any tips?
[04:57] <Nox2k3> and this one had one of them mail in rebate deals for a lots of dollars
[04:57] <Paul928> Does anyone know howq to modify the connection settings for update?
[04:58] <k3b_sucks> asdhopiahfopih30hw098hn9w8h8 9t89w2t2wtw34t 43aw t4a3 t43a t3a4t
[04:58] <Nox2k3> Curiously though, I've never had a problem with fglrx and xv, until I decided to use XGL, then it was hilarious.
[04:59] <CorpseFeeder> volume control mixer is bollocks.. it don't do nothing. what a pile...
[04:59] <ArrenLex> Nox2k3: I think the ATI people just close their eyes and type into emacs, and if it compiles they ship it as a Linux driver.
[04:59] <whyso>  hi, i made the ubuntu CD, but when i am at the first menu and i hit instal/start or check CD for errors it jsut says "loading" forever, any tips?
[04:59] <m0> i have DIR1, DIR2, DIR3, and I want to check if each folder has index.html file or [index]  folder
[05:00] <ArrenLex> Nox2k3: I can't use mplayer, because whenever it accesses xv or x11 my screen goes black for two seconds.
[05:00] <ArrenLex> m0: you could probably write a simple script to do that, lacking any smarter way...
[05:00] <m0> how would I do that?
[05:00] <m0> but how would i distinguish between a folder and a file
[05:00] <host`> what's the best dvd player for linux?
[05:00] <Nox2k3> ArrenLex: Yes I think that accurately describes the ATI development process. Though I would think they would use notepad.exe.
[05:01] <ArrenLex> Nox2k3: yeah, probably.
[05:01] <andresmujica> hi!
[05:01] <ArrenLex> !hi
[05:01] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[05:01] <andresmujica> i've got a problem after upgrading to kde 3.5.5
[05:01] <wastrel> m0:  the file test operators can distinguish folders and files.
[05:01] <andresmujica> kicker fails at start...
[05:01] <andresmujica> :(
[05:01] <wastrel> m0:  basic bash scripting.  perl can also...
[05:01] <whyso> could anyone help me?
[05:01] <Girasquid> Does anyone know how I could get Ubuntu(Live CD) to mount and be able to read/write to my Mac hard drive?
[05:02] <andresmujica> anyone knows if something went broke with kde 3.5.5
[05:02] <ArrenLex> m0: if [ -d "foobar" ]  ; then #folder ; else #file ; fi
[05:02] <m0> wastrel: i can't find it here http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/index.html
[05:02] <CorpseFeeder> this sucks. why can't i make this mic work? I get no input at all in Sound Recorder
[05:03] <kmu> whyso, i had a similar problem trying to install ubuntu on a raid system. fedora would install fine!
[05:03] <CorpseFeeder> it just records silence
[05:03] <wastrel> m0:  it's in the advanced bash scripting guide.
[05:03] <whyso> yeah im using raid 0
[05:03] <m0> can you give me a link pelase
[05:03] <whyso> but i just want to use the live CD for now
[05:03] <m0> In bash i thought we don't have to place ;
[05:03] <m0> what does ; really mean?
[05:03] <m0> ArrenLex: placed ;
[05:04] <kmu> whyso, that's probably it
[05:04] <whyso> ah ok thanks, is there any way to get around that
[05:04] <SuperMiguel> what can you do with an ubuntu server?
[05:04] <wastrel> m0: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/fto.html
[05:04] <kmu> whyso, i gave up on the problem :(
[05:04] <simtower> anyone know of any faqs for getting dapper to hibernate properly?
[05:05] <ArrenLex> m0: well, those are comments. You would put whatever you want to happen if it's a file instead of #file
[05:05] <m0> wastrel: thankyou
[05:05] <whyso> oh :( :( so you reccomend just going for fedora?
[05:05] <kmu> whyso, might want to try a different distro's live cd. or if you're just wanting to check it out, you could run it in vmware
[05:05] <m0> ArrenLex: I just want it to return true or false
[05:05] <m0> if its a file, return tru
[05:05] <kmu> whyso, it meaning ubuntu
[05:05] <m0> else return false
[05:06] <ArrenLex> m0: the string true? Or a boolan?
[05:06] <m0> boolean
[05:06] <docmur> hello all
[05:06] <kmu> whyso, also you should check the online boards. it wasn't my computer, so i didn't care too much
[05:06] <ArrenLex> m0: "return" can only return numerical values -- will "1" and "0" satisfy you?
[05:06] <docmur> does anyone know of a GAL programmer for linux
[05:06] <whyso> i want to just use the live CD to repartitian, so i can install it on the HD afterwards
[05:06] <VViki> cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg0'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
[05:06] <VViki> cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/pg0'. Cannot open SCSI driver.
[05:06] <ArrenLex> m0: if [ -d "foobar" ]  ; then return 1 ; else return 0 ; fi
[05:07] <whyso> k appreciated! if anyone else has tips on getting it to work on a raid 0 system plz message me
[05:07] <ArrenLex> m0: that'll only work in a function, actually.
[05:08] <ArrenLex> m0: quit values? exit 0 and exit 1. Else you'll have to use strings.
[05:08] <ArrenLex> m0: would be easier if you told me what you wanted to do with it.
[05:08] <m0> ArrenLex: I am using methods
[05:08] <ArrenLex> m0: functions?
[05:08] <simtower> anyone know where errors from hibernation are logged to?
[05:08] <simtower> in ubuntu dapper 6.06?
[05:08] <ArrenLex> simtower: check dmesg?
[05:08] <simtower> nothing there =(
[05:08] <ArrenLex> simtower: failing that, /var/log/kern.log?
[05:09] <m0> ArrenLex: this is what I want to do, I have a bunch of Folders, and I want to search each folder and see if it contains a file named "something" (at its last path)
[05:09] <simtower> thanks ArrenLex, ill check it out
[05:09] <ArrenLex> m0: why not just "find <folder> -name "something">
[05:09] <m0> ArrenLex: hmm
[05:09] <VViki> whats the cdrecord command to burn bootable isos??
[05:10] <m0> Say I have FOLDER1, and in FOLDER1 there is two folders FOLDER1A and FOLDER1B, I want to check if FOLDER1 has index.html in both FOLDER1A and FOLDER1B
[05:10] <m0> Every subfolder should have index.html
[05:10] <ArrenLex> m0: and what happens if they don't?
[05:11] <m0> ArrenLex: I would disgard that initial FOLDER1
[05:11] <m0> and move to FOLDER2
[05:11] <m0> and do the same tecniques as FOLDER1
[05:11] <simtower> ArrenLex, any other ideas where failure messages from hibernation might be logged?
[05:11] <ArrenLex> m0: and if an index.html exists?
[05:11] <ArrenLex> simtower: nope.
[05:11] <rcmiv> go blue
[05:11] <t-k-fu> i'm running dapper with kernel 2.6.15-27-k7, and I want to install AIGLX, but I need linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-27-k7, which doesn't appear to exist yet.  is there a way to compile that myself?  if so, where would i find the sources?
[05:11] <m0> if they have index.html in every subolder, then I move that folder to my /home/m0/publish/web/
[05:12] <ArrenLex> Ohhh. That's different.
[05:12] <ArrenLex> m0: how automatic do you need this to be? Like, on your whole filesystem? Or on a specific folder?
[05:13] <m0> specific folder
[05:13] <CorpseFeeder> how do I make a mic work?
[05:13] <m0> ArrenLex: i know the algorithm on how to do it, but i am new to bash
[05:14] <ArrenLex> m0: what's your algorithm?
[05:14] <Samuli^> algorytmi.
[05:14] <Samuli^> ?
[05:15] <m0> hmm, I would need to do a recursive call. So initially, I count the number of directories in the first directory, if there are 2 directories, I recall that algorithm
[05:15] <inz1> can anyone help installing nvidia drivers for a quadro fx? it get messages telling me to update the md5sum, so i run the line and my card gets changed to an ATI card
[05:15] <logankoester> I just installed an application in /usr/share and I want to create a link to it from /usr/bin, but it won't run because it is executing in the wrong directory. What would you guys do?
[05:16] <ArrenLex> inz1: how are you trying to install them?
[05:16] <m0> Once I see the index.html, I compare it to the num of folders  I counted at the begining, if the num = numfound I exit the recursive call by calling the executiing method publish()
[05:16] <CorpseFeeder> how do I make video capture card work?
[05:16] <ArrenLex> logankoester: I would make a simple shell script. /usr/share/application $@
[05:16] <SuperMiguel> i haven an old p3 there is any way that i can use it in a valuable way?
[05:17] <ArrenLex> Miguel: you could make a server.
[05:17] <logankoester> ArrenLex: what does $@ do?
[05:17] <inz1> ArrenLex: i ran the  nvidia-glx-config enable line as suggested in the install notes in synaptic
[05:17] <johnniewalker> lol every 10 lines of text there's a NOT a question.
[05:17] <ArrenLex> logan: "all arguments given to this script"
[05:17] <SuperMiguel> ArrenLex: what can i do which a server? web pages what else?
[05:17] <logankoester> oh cool!
[05:17] <logankoester> I didn't know you could do that
[05:17] <ArrenLex> i.e. for a script invoked as "sh foobar sith hi", $@ = "sith hi"
[05:17] <logankoester> that's awesome
[05:17] <m0> if [ -d $directory ]   should directory be a path?
[05:18] <ArrenLex> Yes.
[05:18] <johnniewalker> hey, does anyone else here have an intel extreme graphics 2 chip?
[05:18] <ArrenLex> m0: I think what they're going after is $directory is a variable that contains a path. But you could also use a literal.
[05:18] <SuperMiguel> ArrenLex: what can i do which a server? web pages what else?
[05:18] <docmur> does anyone know of a GAL programmer for linux
[05:19] <VViki> 43209y98awey98yaer9y9dsagy98dfsagy9834ya9t8y3watp8ew94pt9aewrytpaeysrg 9pryeas9 g8yrase9 gare9s8 gy98aeryy8 g89yaw89 gh3n89aw3 w34y 943wy 943y93w4 hhhhhh3'03T  34W Y3 Y
[05:19] <docmur> GAL (generic array logic)
[05:19] <m0> ArrenLex: say I have a function that is called : CheckIfDirectory() { }
[05:19] <CorpseFeeder> I agree
[05:19] <ArrenLex> SUperMiguel: whatever you want.
[05:19] <logankoester> how does one destroy a link?
[05:19] <m0> can I do this: if [[ CheckIfDirectory $1 == "TRUE" ] ] ; then
[05:19] <m0> if [[ CheckIfDirectory $1 == "TRUE" ] ] ; then that returns "TRUE"
[05:19] <SuperMiguel> ArrenLex: like?
[05:20] <ArrenLex> m0: use return values. At the end of CheckIfDirectory, use "return 1" or "return 0" or whatever you want, and use those values.
[05:20] <m0> i meant  CheckIfDirectory function returns "TRUE"
[05:20] <m0> can i use a function inside an IF Statement?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> m0,  i belive so.. check that advance bash scripting guide.. pretty sure they got examples of that.
[05:21] <ArrenLex> m0: Hold on, let me check that.
[05:21] <m0> the advanced scripting guide is really advanced
[05:22] <CorpseFeeder> so... any more ideas on why my mic won't work?
[05:22] <m0> i don't understand what they mean by this: for directory in $directorys; do
[05:22] <ArrenLex> m0: yes.
[05:22] <Dr_willis> m0,  time to learn some basic bash then i think..
[05:22] <m0> when you for a path, what do you get?
[05:22] <Dr_willis> m0,  those are example/variables
[05:22] <ArrenLex> m0: PM me. I want to paste things and I think I can explain better.
[05:22] <Dr_willis> for X in $arrayofX
[05:23] <m0> hmm how do I message people in irssi
[05:23] <m0> lol
[05:23] <ArrenLex> m0: oh, nevermind; you're not identified.
[05:23] <m0> one sec
[05:23] <ArrenLex> m0: yes, what you want to do will work (functions). Look at this: http://arrenlex.diff.be/check
[05:23] <host`> ArrenLex, you pastebin
[05:23] <host`> use
[05:24] <`m0> am I identified?
[05:24] <ArrenLex> host: why?
[05:24] <host`> oh
[05:24] <`m0> ArrenLex: ah yea, thats how I will do it
[05:25] <ArrenLex> m0: get it?
[05:25] <ArrenLex> What I pasted will return no.
[05:25] <`m0> ArrenLex: but return 1 wll be like a solid true ?
[05:25] <ArrenLex> return 1 is false. Think of these as exit codes.
[05:25] <ArrenLex> exitcode 0 is success.
[05:25] <ArrenLex> exitcode 1 is failure.
[05:26] <`m0> is there a page, that has all the types ?
[05:26] <suff0kate> how do i use philips mp3 player on ubuntu?
[05:26] <ArrenLex> m0: all the types of what?
[05:26] <`m0> I could just skim it through and udnerstand the way bash works.
[05:26] <`m0> like what each literal means
[05:26] <davidrenton> hey there
[05:27] <ArrenLex> m0: bash is not typed. There is no concept of a number or boolean or object or anything.
[05:27] <inz1> can anyone help with nvidia drivers? after running ' nvidia-glx-config enable' i get a message telling me to update the md5sum, so i run the line and my card gets changed to an ATI card in xorg.conf
[05:27] <davidrenton> how do i get an updated package that is in edgy back into dapper?
[05:27] <ArrenLex> m0: you can do anything you want with the return values. If you want, say 1 is true and then you would use if [ "$?" = 1" ]  ; then success
[05:27] <newworldorder> inz1 yeah.  get openSUSE.
[05:28] <ArrenLex> davidrenton: apt-get install --reinstall -t dapper <package>
[05:28] <`m0> ArrenLex: I meant literal, that I would know what [[ ] ]  means and etc, I don't need to learn how to code. I just need to know how bash is structed quickly :)
[05:28] <ArrenLex> davidrenton: actually, you don't even need that reinstall.
[05:28] <inz1> newworldorder: great, thanks...
[05:28] <love> ubuntu isn't for newer users or complex things with graphics.  I'd suggest using the CLI only, and for servers.
[05:28] <ArrenLex> m0: I've enver seen [[ and ] ]  in bash. o_O
[05:28] <ArrenLex> never **
[05:29] <logankoester> can anyone tell me how to destroy a symlink?
[05:29] <davidrenton> ArrenLex: so if i'm running dapper, i can apt-get install -t edgy telak
[05:29] <ArrenLex> logankoester: just delete it.
[05:29] <davidrenton> and that will get the edgy version?
[05:29] <Of_Death> logan:  control delete
[05:29] <`m0> this is incorrect? I got it from bash advanced :if [[ $dir_path != $1 ] ] ; then
[05:29] <ArrenLex> davidrenton: if you have the edgy repository enabled, and you're pinned down to dapper, yes.
[05:29] <logankoester> ArrenLex: promise me rm won't follow the link :p
[05:29] <davidrenton> sweet
[05:29] <davidrenton> thanks
[05:29] <ArrenLex> m0: oh, that might work too. I'm used to using single brackets.
[05:29] <ArrenLex> logan: promise.
[05:29] <logankoester> cool
[05:29] <newworldorder> so can anyone tell me why ubuntu is so buggy out of the box compared to XP?
[05:30] <holycow> lol
[05:30] <holycow> i can tell you
[05:30] <holycow> its not ubuntu thats buggy
[05:30] <`m0> ArrenLex: here http://www.cactus.org/~dak/shellscript.html
[05:30] <holycow> its the users
[05:30] <holycow> >_>
[05:30] <`m0> Thats a usefull link :)
[05:30] <`m0> I think
[05:30] <holycow> honestly, learn how to use it, and all of a sudden 'poof' its not buggy
[05:30] <holycow> it happens to all noobs
[05:30] <wastrel> newworldorder:  1. xp comes preinstalled  2. hardware vendors release drivers for windows.
[05:30] <Samuli^> newwordler, because XP is indefinately better.
[05:30] <ArrenLex> m0: yeah. That looks like a nice guide.
[05:30] <`m0> ah [[ = [
[05:30] <newworldorder> holycow:  I meant compared to XP, where extensive expertise is not required for breathing.
[05:30] <`m0> don't know why they introduced [[ then
[05:31] <holycow> newworldorder, incorrect yet again
[05:31] <ArrenLex> m0: http://linuxreviews.org/beginner/bash_GNU_Bourne-Again_SHell_Reference/ I like that.
[05:31] <holycow> newworldorder, #1 your machine DIDN'T come withubuntu preinstalled
[05:31] <ArrenLex> m0: [[ ] ]  is the same as [ ]  which I use.
[05:31] <Of_Death> I disagree cow
[05:31] <holycow> THEREFORE extensive INSTALLATION expertice is required
[05:31] <Of_Death> an OS is an OS
[05:31] <wastrel> ubuntu = teh aw3s0m3
[05:31] <holycow> second you have been using windows for how many years?
[05:31] <holycow> thats what 10 years of training?
[05:31] <wastrel> os flamewars to offtopic please
[05:31] <Of_Death> and it should come ready to use.  I just don't think that it is ready for the public
[05:32] <holycow> oh i see, magically you should be able to pick up  COMPLETELY NEW technology and somehow you should be IMBUED with the knowledge on how touse it
[05:32] <holycow> >_>
[05:32] <holycow> riiiiight
[05:32] <wastrel> !offtopic
[05:32] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[05:32] <newworldorder> that's so right
[05:32] <wastrel> don't make me do !offtopic again
[05:32] <wastrel> <3
[05:32] <holycow> newworldorder, then keep using windows, no one really cares :)
[05:32] <newworldorder> I'm using openSUSE
[05:32] <newworldorder> actually
[05:32] <definity_> how do i find out the time in console?
[05:33] <wastrel> definity_:  date
[05:33] <newworldorder> lol you ALMOST new what you were talking about
[05:33] <wastrel> definity_:  or uptime
[05:33] <`m0> hmm in my ubuntu setup, I can't save FireFox bookmarks :x
[05:33] <definity_> thanks :)
[05:33] <`m0> Why ?
[05:33] <`m0> I say Bookmars/ Bookmark page, and when I restart FF, it doesn't work
[05:33] <`m0> i don't see my bookmarked page
[05:33] <ArrenLex> m0: is there anything weird about the way you installed or set up firefox?
[05:34] <`m0> ArrenLex: I remember like a month ago, I had troubles with FLASH with FF
[05:34] <Of_Death> I think the biggest thing with ubuntu is that it doesn't provide as much feedback to the user.  When an app has an error in launch, it just sits there, with you staring blankly.
[05:34] <`m0> ArrenLex: So I went to Mozilla Firefox support, and I added a field in my firefox binary
[05:35] <holycow> people that complain about linux simply haven't taken the time or had an opportunity to train them selves to use it
[05:35] <wastrel> !offtopic
[05:35] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter.   I'm on a windows machine.
[05:37] <gnarlin> How does one know that Windows is not buggy without being able to view the source code? Also people who are used to MS Windows are used to it's bugs and how to work with them and do so almost on an unconscious level after having years of training using it. Lastly, most of the difficult problems with Free software operating systems has to do with non-free software migled in. Such as the notorious flash-plugin, especially with 64-bit versions of
[05:37] <gnarlin>  gnu/linux and the ati and nvidia drivers to name a few.
[05:37] <holycow> Of_Death, lol
[05:37] <wastrel> i need to recreate the ssl cert for my mail server
[05:37] <wastrel> anyone have a clue?
[05:37] <Em3rald> hey hey hey!
[05:37] <Of_Death> think of all the trouble you had learning linux, all the time spent learning how to use it, instead of actually using it.
[05:38] <Of_Death> then look at windows.
[05:38] <wastrel> !ops
[05:38] <ubotu> Help!   I don't think it's ready for the public.
[05:39] <newworldorder> (holy cow)
[05:39] <holycow> newworldorder, well lets see now
[05:39] <Em3rald> Only trouble *I* am having now is peeling audio from streaming audio via website.
[05:39] <holycow> i have 1 70 year old user at home
[05:39] <gnarlin> Humm, I am a member fo the public. I'm ready for it.
[05:39] <holycow> i have one 50 year old female user at home so far
[05:39] <`m0> hm
[05:39] <ArrenLex> Em3rald: you want to download a stream?
[05:40] <holycow> both are egregiously non technical, their brain no longer assimilates new info
[05:40] <newworldorder> it isn't a 'how you know linux' thing, it's a 'how you know ubuntu' thing, which shouldn't be an issue for an OS.
[05:40] <holycow> *hmmm*
[05:40] <gnarlin> I have a grandmother using it
[05:40] <`m0> i might install ubuntu on my family's pc
[05:40] <holycow> so far no complaints in 6 months
[05:40] <Em3rald> ArrenLex:  well, it's not critical, but yes,  I have tried other methods.
[05:40] <holycow> so what are you claiming now again?
[05:40] <`m0> The only difficulty would be nothing in our cases...
[05:40] <nalioth> asdopihaoshf: please mind your manners and your language here in #ubuntu
[05:40] <`m0> I just need to setup everything, all the media/flash/ect
[05:40] <ArrenLex> Em3rald: mplayer can do that. mplayer -dumpstream <stream>
[05:40] <host`> !ipv6
[05:40] <ubotu> To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[05:40] <ArrenLex> or mplayer -ao pcm <stream> to output to wav.
[05:40] <Madpilot> Folks, distro evangelism can move to #ubuntu-offtopic right now, please. This is a support channel, evangelism != support...
[05:40] <Em3rald> ArrenLex:  Mmmm .... haven't tried that yet.
[05:40] <`m0> If there was a MSN like easy player they would like
[05:41] <whitehorseNTiger> Where can I get a copy of scyld?   Use at your own risk. See http://www.getautomatix.com/ ; For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[05:42] <holycow> understand that you are among technicians, it is strongly recommended that you research your opinions before you get something handed right back to you :)
[05:42] <Of_Death> uhh........cow, you're full of crap.
[05:42] <nixr> 'mo check this page out I tihnk it will help you with some of your issues http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[05:42] <holycow> with due respect that it is okay for one to remain ignorant :)
[05:42] <ArrenLex> Guys, really, it's not necessary.
[05:42] <CorpseFeeder> is there anyway to do video capture in linux?
[05:42] <ArrenLex> Corpse: of course. What device?
[05:42] <Madpilot> Of_Death, holycow, be polite, and move the offtopic stuff to -offtopic.  Be polite, and move the offtopic stuff off this channel.
[05:43] <Em3rald> nalioth:  THanks :D
[05:43] <vito> trying to get full screen video on an 800mhz box, ATI 3d RAGE PRO LT, where the output is a TV (SVIDEO) - VESA drivers work fine, but video is choppy.  ATI driver thinks it works, but the screen is unreadable--any ideas?
[05:44] <SuperMiguel> there is any way that i can make a serve computer when i turn it on it will go automatically inside ubuntu with out requestin any user or password?
[05:44] <ArrenLex> vito: with what driver?
[05:44] <CorpseFeeder> I don't know if it is supported by v4l
[05:44] <llindy> hello people, after doing apt-get package, how do i make it install that package?
[05:44] <ArrenLex> CorpseFeeder: then find out. Google is your friend.
[05:44] <nalioth> llindy: it should install automatically
[05:44] <holycow> vito, you need the right horizontal and vertical refresh rates for your monitor.  chances are x has default refresh rates in your /etc/x11/xorg.conf file.  i would recommend you google you rmonit and input the right ones in the file.
[05:44] <nalioth> !tell llindy about apt-get
[05:44] <ArrenLex> llindy: apt-get install <package> means you've installed it.
[05:44] <love> does anyone know why my ubuntu isn't working?
[05:44] <holycow> vito, as well you should always backup your config files before modifying them
[05:45] <holycow> love, define 'not working' ? we'll try
[05:45] <CorpseFeeder> I've googled about this for the past 3 days and come up with nothing
[05:45] <Madpilot> love, we'd need more detail than 'not working'...
[05:45] <llindy> okay well i did it and it finished without error, but im trying to use another program that needs this package after installing it i try running the program again and it says it still can't find the package installed
[05:45] <love> it just locks up
[05:45] <holycow> love, at what point?
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> love: Any pattern?
[05:45] <love> right when i turn it on
[05:45] <nixr> Corpse try this page http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
[05:45] <love> yeah
[05:45] <vito> holycow - oh, i've been wrestling with my xorg.conf for a few weeks now on this--my monitor is a TV set...havent seen how to get rates for that.
[05:45] <Of_Death> week, huh?
[05:45] <Of_Death> weeks*
[05:45] <ryan8403> quick question how do i force another mirror when running apt-get?
[05:46] <holycow> love, did you install dual boot or clean hd? just curious, maybe grub cannot find your install
[05:46] <llindy> okay well i did it and it finished without error, but im trying to use another program that needs this package after installing it i try running the program again and it says it still can't find the package installed
[05:46] <Of_Death> how much time have you spent on it?
[05:46] <ArrenLex> CorpseFeeder: then how come the first result for the first query I typed in yields this? http://www.cicese.mx/~mirsev/Linux/DC10plus/
[05:46] <Madpilot> love, sounds more like a hardware issue than an ubuntu-specific issue, if your computer dies right after it starts
[05:46] <Of_Death> like...cumulatively?
[05:46] <holycow> vito, oh tv set, i donno mate :/ i've not even bothered testing that.
[05:46] <imajes> hey, i just did a cat /proc/cpuinfo on a new machien i just installed ubuntu on... and it says my model name is amd athlon 64 processor; should i install the 64 bit version or should i stick with the i386 version i just used??
[05:46] <love> no...it worked, I installed ubuntu, and it freezes on bootup.
[05:46] <nalioth> Of_Death: please stay on topic
[05:46] <vito> HA - no - been leaving and coming back to it out of frustration--it's my 3d computer
[05:46] <ArrenLex> llindy: are you trying to compile something?
[05:46] <llindy> i am trying to run a config program for another program
[05:46] <Of_Death> well, I was asking about his time on working with ubuntu
[05:46] <vito> i'd say maybe 30 or so hours of pure frustration tho
[05:47] <newworldorder> i think he said weeks
[05:47] <CorpseFeeder> because I'v already beeb to that page and it yeilded no useful information
[05:47] <CorpseFeeder> been
[05:47] <ArrenLex> llindy: then you need the -dev version of the package it tells you it's missing.
[05:47] <Of_Death> 30 hours
[05:47] <wastrel> Of_Death:  this isn't a channel for general chat about ubuntu, it's for support
[05:47] <vito> third computer, not three dimentional
[05:47] <Of_Death> thats a long time
[05:47] <holycow> imajes, you should stick with 32 bit version.  if you really needed 64 bit version you would KNOW WHY you needed it and the issue associated
[05:47] <ArrenLex> llindy: i.e. if it tells you you're missing libfoobar, you need to install libfoobar-dev
[05:47] <Madpilot> love, when exactly on bootup? During the BIOS start, during GRUB's start, or when?
[05:47] <Of_Death> alot you can do in 30 hours
[05:47] <vito> and can't do, apparently
[05:47] <llindy> apt-get install kernel-headers-2.4.27-2-386
[05:47] <ArrenLex> Of_Death: PLEASE, can we stop the flame war?
[05:47] <imajes> holycow: that's what i thought; i really don't need 64 bit processing right now
[05:47] <llindy> thats what it says i need ArrenLex
[05:48] <Nihil1985> hi! i cannot play music from the windows network with amarok, i only can play music from other pc with rythmbox and totem. Why?
[05:48] <ArrenLex> llindy: oh. Try "apt-get install `uname -r`"
[05:48] <holycow> imajes, nothing wrong with 64 bit play with it, but remember you wont really notice any difference as 64 bit really a specific cpu for a specific set of tasks and also things like flash plugin from adobe don't exist on ANY 64 bit platform
[05:48] <ArrenLex> llindy: don't change the little ` apostrophes.
[05:48] <nalioth> !tell llindy about headers
[05:48] <ArrenLex> llindy: wait.
[05:48] <ArrenLex> llindy: oh. Try "apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`"
[05:48] <nalioth> !tell ArrenLex about headers
[05:48] <CorpseFeeder> i could get nothng in that page to work
[05:48] <imajes> holycow: i wasn't sure if i  *had* to have 64 bit on what i asusme is a 64 bit cpu; i'm really not going to worry about it, it's a fileserver. :)
[05:48] <wastrel> ArrenLex:  i've almost completely retrained myself to use $() instead of ` `
[05:48] <vito> I can get full screen video with the VESA drivers, but its choppy-- I dont know whether i should be barking up the "ATI drivers" tree or the "try to get a less CPU intensive system" tree or what
[05:48] <ryan8403> hi, anyone know how to force a different mirror when running apt-get?
[05:48] <ArrenLex> llindy: actually, a better way would be to apt-get install build-essential
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> ArrenLex: You can do that with $(uname -r) too, right/
[05:48] <newworldorder> ArrenLex:  he wasn't flaming
[05:48] <llindy> its doing it right now
[05:49] <llindy> the apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[05:49] <ArrenLex> nalioth: why are you telling me this? xD I know.
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> ryan8403: I've only done it by changing my sources file myself; check the apt-get man to see if there's another.
[05:49] <ArrenLex> tony: yes. Are the little apostrophes somehow bad?
[05:49] <ArrenLex> I mentioned them and everyone was like HISS
[05:49] <newworldorder> why did I just get kicked?
[05:49] <nalioth> ArrenLex: it is sometimes easier to send folks a link they won't lose in the channel passing
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> ArrenLex: Nope.  I think I actually like that better.
[05:49] <nalioth> newworldorder: because you are trolling.
[05:49] <holycow> vito,  nothing wrong with trying ati.  just do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and choose ati.  you should be using ati drivers for your ati vid card
[05:50] <Nihil1985> hi! i cannot play music from the windows network with amarok, i only can play music from other pc with rythmbox and totem. Why?
[05:50] <newworldorder> ehh...right.  Do they pay you guys?  What's your supervisor's name?  What company?
[05:50] <ryan8403> tonyyarusso: thanks
[05:50] <holycow> *whistle*
[05:50] <love> niolath:  that was inappropriate.
[05:50] <vito> holycow - done that (many times) - but the video comes out screwed up, like, you can tell it's almost there, but the "ubuntu" logo is stretched and repated across the screen, is unreadable etc.
[05:50] <love> seriously
[05:51] <holycow> vito, *hmm*
[05:51] <nalioth> love: you may join #ubuntu-ops if you wish to contest any operator actions.  #ubuntu is not the place for it.
[05:51] <holycow> vito, what are the resolution options you get under ati driver?
[05:51] <llindy> /usr/bin/parallels-config: line 148: make: command not found
[05:51] <holycow> can you get far enough to tell from the menu?
[05:51] <llindy> i need ot install make
[05:51] <ryan8403> anyone having problems with a mirror at <IP_ADDRESS>
[05:51] <ArrenLex> llindy: apt-get install build-essential
[05:51] <llindy> apt-get make ?
[05:51] <llindy> okjay
[05:51] <nalioth> llindy: install "build-essential"
[05:51] <llindy> thnx arren
[05:52] <andresmujica> hi about kicker and kde 3.5.5 issue i've just made a bug report, thanks for the suggestions they didn't worked... and a quick search for the forums lead to nowhere.. so  here is the bug report https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/66198
[05:52] <whitehorseNTiger> If I have a video off the internet that mplayer-plug in opens automatically, how do I save the streem/file?
[05:52] <ArrenLex> andres: where did you get kde-3.5.5 from?
[05:52] <vito> holycow: like all of them? there's a great number- but i keep them low (1024x768 at ABSOLUTE max,) 800x600 is the best for the TV
[05:52] <inz1> can anyone help with nvidia drivers? after running ' nvidia-glx-config enable' i get a message telling me to update the md5sum, so i run the line and my card gets changed to an ATI card in xorg.conf
[05:52] <ArrenLex> whitehorse: right-click on the video and click save as. :P
[05:52] <holycow> vito check this out: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/TVout_for_legacy_ATI_cards_using_GATOS
[05:52] <whitehorseNTiger> thank
[05:52] <holycow> i wouldn't follwo the rest of the info but i would check out the xorg.conf config
[05:53] <Nihil1985> hi! i cannot play music from the windows network with amarok, i only can play music from other pc with rythmbox and totem. Why? amarok says that it hasn't the appropriate plugin. how can i listen to music with it?
[05:53] <holycow> vito, back up your current config before modification of course
[05:53] <vito> holycow - thanks..i'll see if this helps
[05:53] <holycow> vito, the part about compiling ati drivers ... i don't know if those are compatable with your vid card so be careful
[05:53] <Agioz> Hello everybody! I am very new to Ubuntu and I have some question. 1. How to change the resolution of the screen ?
[05:54] <andresmujica> arrenlex, from kde-latest....
[05:54] <andresmujica> apt-ge update   apt-get upgrade
[05:54] <framply> !ops
[05:54] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[05:54] <Madpilot> framply, ?
[05:54] <Amaranth> lagging, will get ElectricAvenue banned in a second
[05:54] <ArrenLex> andres: you compiled from source?
[05:54] <inz1> Agioz: System, preferences, screen resolution
[05:54] <framply> Madpilot: got on-join spam from ElectricAvenue
[05:55] <Amaranth> He is gone though
[05:55] <andresmujica> ArrenLex: nop!!! it's at the ubuntu repos already!!! it's hot!!!
[05:55] <framply> yeah
[05:55] <ArrenLex> Oh.
[05:55] <framply> but, better late than never :)
[05:55] <keegan_> What is in the ubuntu repos?
[05:55] <Madpilot> framply, being dealt with
[05:55] <ArrenLex> andres: then I don't know if you should be filing a bug report with kde. Maybe it's an ubuntu-only bug.
[05:55] <andresmujica> but at my work machine the kicker died after the upgrade
[05:55] <holycow> keegan_, everything :)
[05:55] <Agioz> inz1, Thanks but the highest value is 1024/768 and my nat res is 1280/1024
[05:55] <keegan_> Not exaile...
[05:55] <lostboyz> i was wondering after i changed my xorg file my fonts are really small how do i make them bigger
[05:56] <pingswept> Nihil1985: I don't know enough about Windows networking to say anything particularly insightful, but you might try installing Ethereal and comparing the packets sent to your remote host by rbox vs. amarok.
[05:56] <keegan_> Preferences>Font.
[05:56] <lostboyz> also how do i install a progam from a tarball but making it a platform deb file first?
[05:56] <pingswept> Nihil1985: If nothing else, it will be sort of fun.
[05:56] <andresmujica> ooohhhh.. sh*****tt  i didn't realize that!!!
[05:56] <ArrenLex> !tell lostboyz about checkinstall
[05:56] <linuxnut> Hello all.
[05:56] <andresmujica> i was reporting it to ubuntu...... oooppss.
[05:56] <Nihil1985> pingswept: i don't understand
[05:57] <SAS_Spidey01> Does any one know how much quality I'll lose if I use the  soundconverter package to convert my mp3's to ogg ?
[05:57] <pingswept> Nihil1985: Ethereal is a packet sniffer.
[05:57] <linuxnut> Not sure if this is an Ubuntu or mysql question but here goes:
[05:57] <pingswept> Nihil1985: It lets you see the traffic across the Windows network.
[05:57] <andresmujica> keegan_: kde 3.5.5
[05:57] <Em3rald> SAS:  Negligible
[05:57] <Em3rald> Unless you are an audiophile
[05:57] <inz1> edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the lines for each new res. you'll see what i mean when you open it; type: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:57] <Nihil1985> pingswept: the question is: why totem and rythmbox are allowed to play music in a lan and not amarok ?
[05:57] <SAS_Spidey01> Thanks, I'll convert the backup collection
[05:58] <Nihil1985> pingswept: apt-get install ethereal?
[05:58] <ArrenLex> Nihil: are you trying to play mp3s? Amarok won't play mp3s by default, I believe.
[05:58] <pingswept> Nihil1985: Right. Looking at the packets might tell you the answer.
[05:58] <linuxnut> Ubuntu 6.06 install, mysql up an running (works great...), I'm trying to access the mysql server from an outside machine (but still within my lan).
[05:58] <pingswept> ArrenLex: probably a better theory.
[05:58] <ryan8403> so does anyone know of any other way to force a different mirror from the pool? i'm getting Connection failed error messages when running apt-get update
[05:58] <SAS_Spidey01> I've been wanting to change to ogg format for a long time
[05:58] <Nihil1985> ArrenLex: i've already installed the mp3 plugins, infact they can play music on the local pc
[05:58] <linuxnut> my mysql client is not seeing the server.  IP's are correct
[05:58] <ArrenLex> ryan: just go to your /etc/apt/sources.list and change to a different mirror.
[05:58] <kismet_> Wireshark > Ethereal
[05:58] <pingswept> Nihil1985: Yes, I believe so.
[05:59] <Em3rald> SAS:  Well, it's a decent format ... though WavPack (I think that's what its called) is actually technically better.
[05:59] <andresmujica> lostboys:  try with dpkg-deb -b
[05:59] <SAS_Spidey01> Not sure if I've heard of it Em3rald
[05:59] <pingswept> kismet_: what is wireshark? I've seen it mentioned. Is it a debranded version of Ethereal? Or a fork?
[05:59] <ryan8403> ArrenLex: its set to the us.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:59] <andresmujica> you need a DEBIAN dir
[05:59] <andresmujica> with some standard files on it
[05:59] <holycow> pingswept, fork
[05:59] <linuxnut> I recall that with debian I had to 'turn' something on, but I don't emember what it was or if it applies with ubuntu
[05:59] <pingswept> Thanks, cow.
[05:59] <ArrenLex> ryan: try deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[05:59] <Em3rald> SAS:  Well, I read a big page about it awhile ago ... I'll see if I can find a link.
[06:00] <SAS_Spidey01> cc, thank you
[06:00] <kismet_> Wireshark is Ethereal's new name. They had some kind of Trademark issue with the Ethereal name
[06:00] <ryan8403> Arren: ok
[06:00] <SuperMiguel> i just got an old PIII 800 MGHZ and 300 MB of ram, and i want to make it server, beside ssh server and http server there is any other useful tool?
[06:00] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: you could use it in a cluster.
[06:00] <ArrenLex> !distcc
[06:00] <ubotu> distcc: Simple distributed compiler client and server. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.18.3-3 (dapper), package size 138 kB, installed size 360 kB
[06:01] <kismet_> SuperMiguel: NAS device
[06:01] <Nihil1985> pingswept: i've installed ethereal and i'm running it at this moment
[06:01] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: use it to help you compile stuff faster!
[06:01] <Em3rald> SAS:  http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=Lossless_comparison
[06:01] <andresmujica> Nihil1985: i recall that there's a bug report on that at launchpad, and several threads at the forums, try checking there maybe someone has some hint to make it work.
[06:01] <Em3rald> And http://www.wavpack.com has more info about it too.
[06:01] <Nihil1985> pingswept: but i have no idea of how i can analyze the network traffic
[06:01] <andresmujica> i, m talking about amarok + windows share issue
[06:01] <SAS_Spidey01> Thanks
[06:01] <Em3rald> :D
[06:01] <SuperMiguel> what is an cluster and what is an NAS device
[06:01] <Agioz> inz1, A new empy window opens. So just type the resolution? -----edit your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add the lines for each new res. you'll see what i mean when you open it; type: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.con
[06:02] <Nihil1985> andresmujica: so this is a common matter about amarok and the LAN.... thanks. what's this forum? can you send me a link?
[06:02] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cluster_computing
[06:02] <andresmujica> linuxnf:  about mysql and ubuntu, the problem is that you cannot access your mysql server via network??
[06:02] <holycow> SuperMiguel, oh man you can make the server do anything
[06:02] <holycow> where to begin
[06:02] <vito> holycow - interesting..i'm noticing that changing the refresh rates makes it look screwed up in a different way every time, which is making me suspect i just have to find the magic numbers
[06:02] <holycow> when it comes to webservers ... between things like apache and aolserver you have millions of options to make very cools things
[06:03] <ArrenLex> Agioz: no, that's  "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[06:03] <inz1> Agioz: no, it should have content in it already
[06:03] <holycow> SuperMiguel, you can make web access servers, you can make ldap servers, ftp servers, streaming media servers
[06:03] <holycow> SuperMiguel, you can spend a lifetime building super cool things :)
[06:03] <SuperMiguel> ArrenLex: so basically it will make my communication faster?
[06:03] <inz1> Agioz: sorry, typo
[06:03] <Agioz> inz1 but it completely empty
[06:03] <wastrel> are ldap servers really considered cool?
[06:03] <linuxnut> andresmujica:   Yes, correct
[06:03] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: basically it will make your processing faster. If you do compiling or video rendering, for example, you can use it tp help.
[06:03] <ArrenLex> !openmosix
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openmosix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <Em3rald> ugh ... that looked like spam ... sorry.
[06:04] <inz1> close that window, then type this: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:04] <ryan8403> ArrenLex: its still failing on the connection, i can ping the ip addresses, its just not seeing the files
[06:04] <holycow> vito, yeah thats usually the issue.  each type of display expects a certain frequency range as they are only designed to handle a few things ... good luck i wish i know
[06:04] <SuperMiguel> ArrenLex: but it will make windows computer faster too?
[06:04] <holycow> knew
[06:04] <andresmujica> Nihil1985: yes i recall that i've seen that issue as a bug report and some threads but sadly i don't have the links.. try launchpad.net and ubuntuforums.org
[06:04] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: No.
[06:04] <SuperMiguel> it will make my others ubuntu computers work faster?
[06:05] <ArrenLex> ryan8403: how are you trying to access the files?
[06:05] <Nihil1985> andresmujica: thanks
[06:05] <andresmujica> wastrel:  ldap is not cool, it's super cool ;)
[06:05] <ryan8403> ArrenLex: i'm running both apt-get update and Synaptic
[06:05] <ryan8403> and clicking refresh
[06:06] <SuperMiguel> holycow: what is an ldap servers?
[06:06] <Em3rald> ryan:  dude, only one at a time, eh?
[06:06] <ArrenLex> ryan8403: that's not what I mean. The files are on a remote computer running Windows. How are you trying to acess this remote computer?
[06:06] <ArrenLex> cc
[06:06] <holycow> SuperMiguel, its basically a really really fancy address book you can use to authenticate users against and provide priviledges to them
[06:06] <inz1> Agioz: close that window, then type this: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:06] <linuxnut> andresmujica:   any ideas?
[06:07] <khaled_hosny> I'm intalling edgy in a chroot (by debootstrap). base-config is no longer used, so what is its replacement ?
[06:07] <Daemonik> Hey the fglrx driver for Dapper is broken.
[06:07] <khaled_hosny> I can't find any thing after googling
[06:07] <Em3rald> Gotta jet guys ... thanks for all the help as usual :D ... Viva La Ubuntu!! ;)
[06:07] <SuperMiguel> holycow: there any way to make a file server, like i have 5 computers and i want them to share files two of them have windows
[06:07] <SAS_Spidey01> Use Samba SuperMiguel
[06:07] <ArrenLex> Daemonik: "broken"?
[06:07] <ryan8403> Em3rald: I'm switching between the two ( i realize that running both is not possible as there is a lock on the package db)
[06:07] <Agioz> inz1,I did, can I change the depth as well ? because so far i can see that it is 24Bit.Can that be 32 as well ?
[06:08] <holycow> SuperMiguel, yes i'll show you the really easy way
[06:08] <Sunspots> how can you change the available "Open With" applications in nautilus
[06:08] <ArrenLex> Agioz: 32-bit is 24-bit plus alpha channels. You get the same colour depth.
[06:08] <SuperMiguel> holycow: ok =)
[06:08] <holycow> SuperMiguel, 1. research what vmware is ... in particular you will need to know what vmware player is and what vmware server is
[06:08] <Daemonik> ArrenLex, mhmmm. Installed exactly as the wiki guided, glxinfo says Direct Rendering: Yes, but under that it says the vendor is SGI. Programs that make use of acceleration some don't run at all. Like Doom3. This is with an x800xt and a 4ghz Pentium D.
[06:08] <Agioz> fair enogh
[06:08] <ArrenLex> Daemonik: are you trying to use aiglx?
[06:09] <holycow> SuperMiguel, 2. you will download a vmware appliance image ... and run it from your vmware server when you have that setup ... which is easy but a bit hard for a noob, you need to google a bit
[06:09] <Sunspots> since when was virtualization easier for this use
[06:09] <Daemonik> ArrenLex, Nope, just basic 3D acceleration. Although I would like to take a shot at Xgl if this problem is solved.
[06:09] <SAS_Spidey01> I agree with Sunspots
[06:09] <holycow> SuperMiguel,  since its plug and play
[06:09] <ryan8403> ArrenLex: I'm using apt-get update or synaptic package manager the error message i'm getting back is that the connection failed
[06:09] <Madpilot> Sunspots, right-click on a file that you want to open in something different, go Properties->Open With tab
[06:10] <andresmujica> linuxnut: you need to activate mysql tcp/ip by default it communicates via sock so it's only accesed via localhost and unix filesystem, look for /etc/my.cf (please help i don't remember the right filename) and look for a line with tcp on it... sorry i don't remeber the exact line
[06:10] <ArrenLex> ryan8403: how are you trying to connect?
[06:10] <Sunspots> Madpilot: some are unremovable
[06:10] <ryan8403> ArrenLex: I'm connected right now through broadband
[06:10] <Sunspots> Madpilot: and aren't even installed
[06:10] <ryan8403> ArrenLex: The box is the one that i'm currently using
[06:11] <Madpilot> Sunspots, yeah, I've run into that myself; Nautilus bug, I think. File w/ bugs.ubuntu.com
[06:11] <Daemonik> ArrenLex, I took a good long look at /var/loglXorg.0.log.
[06:11] <ArrenLex> ryan8403: that's not what I mean. In Windows, if you want to access a remote machine, you go to My Network Places, yes? What special thing are you doing right now?
[06:11] <andresmujica> Sunspots: not pretty sure but is something like right button properties and click on the icon that appears before the type of file.. something like that
[06:11] <Sunspots> Madpilot: is there any text config, I couldn't find one
[06:11] <Agioz> inz1,do I need a restart to take effect ??
[06:11] <Sunspots> andresmujica: the problem is some can't be remove
[06:11] <Madpilot> Sunspots, there should be, but I'm not sure where Nautilus keeps it's config files
[06:11] <RadiantFire> just a guess, .nautilus
[06:12] <ryan8403> ArrenLex: i'm not doing anything special like that
[06:12] <holycow> SuperMiguel, 3. http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/appliances/directory/315
[06:12] <SuperMiguel> holycow: do you want me to install the vmware server?
[06:12] <ArrenLex> ryan8403: I'm confused as to what you're doing.
[06:12] <linuxnut> aha, thanks, my.cf
[06:12] <holycow> it runs gentoo but it will give you something to play with
[06:12] <linuxnut> It looks like they are defaulting to only listen on <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:12] <ArrenLex> Daemonik: you looked at Xorg.0.log? Did you find anything?
[06:12] <holycow> you can then go and recreate the same thing using the components in ubuntu/debian repos depending on what server you are running
[06:13] <ryan8403> ArrenLex: I'm trying to update my box by running apt-get update when doing that i get Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper Release.gpg Connection failed [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[06:13] <Madpilot> RadiantFire, doesn't look like it, actually. .nautilus seems to just contain directory structures?
[06:13] <holycow> Amaranth, didn't see the msg window ... ping right back at ya :)
[06:13] <Daemonik> ArrenLex, Nope.
[06:13] <ArrenLex> Daemonik: you've installed xorg-driver-fglrx? You've made your xorg.conf use the fglrx driver? You have restricted modules installed?
[06:14] <Daemonik> mhmm
[06:14] <holycow> SuperMiguel, in order to run the vmware appliance images, you will need to install vmware server 1.x which is free to use (though not open source.  later you can use something like xen to do virtualization when you are more comfy with how things work)
[06:14] <lostboyz> i was wondering after i changed my xorg file my fonts are really small how do i make them bigger
[06:14] <Sunspots> RadiantFire: that only has menu histories
[06:14] <andresmujica> ryan8403: try www.ubuntulinux.com/source-o-matic there's a brief explanation of importing gpg keys and several keys and repos for sources.list
[06:14] <RadiantFire> learn something new everyday
[06:14] <ArrenLex> ryan8403: then go to /etc/apt/sources.list and change where it says "us.archive.ubuntu.com" to "archive.ubuntu.com" (remove the us)
[06:14] <KEA0463> hello ubanites
[06:15] <ArrenLex> lotsboyz: do you have a DPI in mind?
[06:15] <SAS_Spidey01> man sudo is going to spoil me
[06:15] <linuxnut> bingo
[06:15] <ArrenLex> lotsboyz -> lostboyz XDDD
[06:16] <linuxnut> andresmujica:   THANKS a bunch now I can leave my 'server' room, which is also where the cat deposits his, eh, DATA
[06:16] <Of_Death> ?
[06:16] <Of_Death> yeah, I can talk
[06:16] <Of_Death> sweet
[06:16] <SuperMiguel> holycow: and then?
[06:16] <KEA0463> i need penis enlargement surgery
[06:16] <Of_Death> Miguel!
[06:16] <ArrenLex> linuxnut: if you don't like your cat depositing your data there, run "cat > /dev/null" instead. =P
[06:16] <andresmujica> linuxnut: you're welcome, please which was the line?
[06:17] <ArrenLex> Ugh.
[06:17] <holycow> SuperMiguel, i can't hand hold you through the whole thing.  i gave you the shortest route to the most interesting way to test out linux environments, particularly server level stuff
[06:17] <holycow> you will haveto fight through learning the rest
[06:17] <suff0kate> how come i can't acess program files under .wine
[06:17] <OmniD> What's a decent torrent client
[06:17] <suff0kate> i type cd Program FIles
[06:17] <suff0kate> and it doesn't work
[06:17] <ArrenLex> suff0kate: you have to type cd Program\ Files because Linux doesn't like spaces
[06:17] <holycow> suff0kate, its Program\ Files/
[06:17] <suff0kate> k
[06:18] <Nihil1985> andresmujica: i've searched for amarok in launchpad but i found nothing
[06:18] <ArrenLex> suff0kate: you know that, once you type the first few characters, you can press tab to complete the name, right?
[06:18] <holycow> suff0kate, also you can press tab to autocomplete ... so you can type in Pro<tab> and it should fill it in for you
[06:18] <andresmujica> OmniD: try azureus
[06:18] <ArrenLex> Nihil: what is your problem again, briefly?
[06:18] <SAS_Spidey01> once I actually get music playing I can get to my history test hehee
[06:18] <andresmujica> nihil... let me check it for you.. just a sec
[06:18] <dexter123> hi there ubuntu newbie with a installation question neone got  a sec?
[06:18] <OmniD> andresmujica, I hear azureus eats up RAM like no other
[06:19] <ArrenLex> !ask
[06:19] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:19] <DavidV> pl
[06:19] <DavidV> ok
[06:19] <Nihil1985> ArrenLex: always the same problem: amarok is the only player that can't play music from other pc in a lan
[06:19] <SuperMiguel> there is any way to log in your computer remotely usgin putty
[06:19] <Nihil1985> andresmujica: thanks
[06:19] <ArrenLex> Nihil: how are you trying to play this music?
[06:20] <SuperMiguel> like the ssh server is up, but i need to be loged to be able to use vnc there is any way to log in using putty?
[06:20] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: putty is ssh for windows.
[06:20] <SuperMiguel> there is no way to do that
[06:20] <ArrenLex> SuperMiguel: from a Linux to a Linux box? or from a Windows box to a Linux box?
[06:20] <SuperMiguel> from windows to linux
[06:20] <darnell> anyone know of an online website to scan my computer for its hardware?
[06:20] <Nihil1985> ArrenLex: like with rythmbox or totem: i take a mp3 from a folder (of the win network) and i put it into amarok
[06:20] <darnell> i need to get the exact name of my motherboard
[06:20] <SuperMiguel> you know that when you turn on your gnome-desktop it will ask you for a password
[06:21] <SuperMiguel> if you dont log in the vnc server wont be on
[06:21] <ArrenLex> Nihil: how are you getting to this remote folder? And what desktop environment are you on?
[06:21] <SuperMiguel> there is any way to log in remotly
[06:21] <nomasteryoda> darnell,
[06:21] <ArrenLex> darnell: why is the "lspci" command not good enough for you?
[06:21] <nomasteryoda> darnell, just do this
[06:21] <nomasteryoda> lspci -v
[06:21] <nomasteryoda> mine shows my mb exactly
[06:22] <nomasteryoda> Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology GA-K8VT800 Pro Motherboard
[06:22] <khaled_hosny> guys, how to configure a newly debootstarped edgy whithout base-config ? or there is no need for this any more ?
[06:22] <darnell> i have two usb ports in the front of my computer..
[06:22] <darnell> and ive connected them to the motherboard and they still dont work
[06:23] <nomasteryoda> darnell, did the cables you used come with the m/b?
[06:24] <Nihil1985> ArrenLex: i'm on dapper drake with gnome, so i use nautilus. I open the network and i find my windows lan with all the shared folders
[06:24] <nomasteryoda> sometimes there is a jumper to change for extra usb ports
[06:24] <nomasteryoda> or turn them on
[06:24] <darnell> yes
[06:24] <ArrenLex> Nihil: I'm guessing the fact that you're on gnome is what's preventing a KDE app from properly handling your links. But that's justa  guess.
[06:24] <darnell> they run from the usb ports...
[06:24] <darnell> all you have to do if plug them on to the motherboard
[06:24] <docmur> I need to find a program that will allow to program Programmable Logic Arrays
[06:24] <darnell> i stick my ipod in and it lights up..
[06:24] <darnell> so power is there
[06:25] <Nihil1985> ArrenLex: i've installed KDE before amarok
[06:25] <Nihil1985> ArrenLex: so i should have all the necessary to get it works
[06:25] <ArrenLex> Nihil: yes, but nautilus might be passing smb links in a way amarok can't handle.
[06:26] <ArrenLex> Nihil: what if you open amarok and browse to your files using its file - open?
[06:26] <Nihil1985> ArrenLex: i dislike kde but Amarok is the best player after winamp.....  so, how can i use it to listen to my music?
[06:27] <ArrenLex> Nihil: try what I suggested. What happens?
[06:27] <ArrenLex> (22:26:26) ArrenLex: Nihil: what if you open amarok and browse to your files using its file - open?
[06:28] <Nihil1985> ArrenLex: amarok crashes
[06:28] <ArrenLex> XD!
[06:28] <ArrenLex> Nihil: yeah, I think something's just not going to work what that setup.
[06:28] <Deon|alt> Hi
[06:28] <ArrenLex> !HI
[06:28] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[06:28] <catalytic> how can I reset all of the X settings to the default that they were when i first installed ubuntu?
[06:28] <Troy_McClure> i am having problems installing fglxr driver... not working this time, anyone got a minute to help
[06:28] <ArrenLex> Nihil: if you like winamp, check out xmms. It's a clone.
[06:28] <Deon|alt> I'm trying to get an old P1 with 16MB RAM running Linux
[06:28] <catalytic> i tried installing the ati radeon drivers and now X or startx will not start
[06:28] <Deon|alt> as LiveCD
[06:29] <ArrenLex> Wow.
[06:29] <Nihil1985> ArrenLex: xmms is a bad clone, in my opinion
[06:29] <ArrenLex> Deon: you definitely need to check out damn small linux. Ubuntu in any form is not for you.
[06:29] <L3TUC3> hmm
[06:29] <Deon|alt> ive tried MEPIS, DSL, Puppy, Feather..
[06:29] <ArrenLex> ...
[06:29] <ArrenLex> Or not.
[06:29] <Deon|alt> heh
[06:29] <ArrenLex> How about debian?
[06:29] <Nihil1985> ArrenLex: i think that rythmbox is good compared to xmms
[06:29] <Deon|alt> im in #damnsmalllinux now..
[06:29] <Deon|alt> they Said Hello, now they pretend to be asleep
[06:29] <cafuego> Deon|alt: FloppyFW might work, wouldn't hold my breath on anything that needs a largeish ramdisk
[06:29] <Deon|alt> ArrenLex: debian?
[06:29] <L3TUC3> how do i enable 3d hardware acceleration?
[06:29] <holycow> Deon|alt, wow
[06:30] <ArrenLex> Deon|alt: don't tell me you don't know what debian is? o_o
[06:30] <Deon|alt> cafuego: would it support internet?
[06:30] <Deon|alt> ArrenLex: I barely know Linux
[06:30] <holycow> Deon|alt, may i very very humbly suggest walking around some large buildings and waiting for something a wee bit better to show up?
[06:30] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: you need the proper driver. What card?
[06:30] <Deon|alt> I can go on for hours about Windows Vista :P
[06:30] <cafuego> Deon|alt: As long as the hardware is supported; just ethernet should be fine.
[06:30] <L3TUC3> geforce 2 go
[06:30] <holycow> at minimum you should be able to find a p500 mhz for free :/
[06:30] <catalytic> is the gui x? or xserver?
[06:30] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: you need the nvidia driver.
[06:30] <Deon|alt> holycow: lol
[06:30] <ArrenLex> !tell L3TUC3 about nvidia
[06:31] <cafuego> holycow: I started out on a P66/16Mb - ran just fine (X and netscape and all)
[06:31] <Deon|alt> holycow: im on a P4 Celeron, with 1GB of RAM atm.. but I want to try and get an old laptop happenin again
[06:31] <andresmujica> nihin i've just sent you the links in a priv message
[06:31] <L3TUC3> ah yes, thank you, thats the page i was looking for
[06:31] <Deon|alt> caguego: really..
[06:31] <L3TUC3> ilost it yesterday
[06:31] <Troy_McClure> ArrenLex: any "modern" distro is going to be to much for an old machine, even xubuntu might be a bit much damn small linux or maybe a custom slackware install if you have the skills
[06:31] <Deon|alt> cafuego*
[06:31] <holycow> cafuego, yes well ... :) i'm thinking that maybe something a weee bit better might make the experience a wee bit more enjoyeable :)
[06:31] <holycow> cafuego, besides your a weirdo
[06:31] <holycow> *cough*
[06:31] <holycow> :)
[06:32] <catalytic> i need to remove the ati drivers and roll back to the generic ones that were installed during the standard ubuntu installation
[06:32] <Nihil1985> andresmujica: thanks
[06:32] <Nihil1985> andresmujica: is there any solution?
[06:32] <davidv> got a asus mboard with nvidia raid 0 i thnk( 2 drives combined into 1) and when i install ubuntu it shows me 2 drives how do i get it to show one
[06:32] <holycow> Deon|alt, debian WON'T install on that for sure, i've tried.  it requires more ram for the installer to run
[06:32] <silvertip257> does anyone know of a tutorial/instructions on properly creating a multiple boot system with just Linux flavors???
[06:32] <catalytic> could anyone offer any advice on how to do that?
[06:32] <holycow> like someone mentioned you need something very specific to such old hardware .. perhaps damn small linux is a decent suggestion as they said?
[06:32] <andresmujica> Nihil1985: i don't know...
[06:32] <Troy_McClure> anyways though, i have run into an interesting problem, been trying to install fglrx, and i am getting the Xfree_86 Dri has not been loaded error, and fglrxinfo shows mesa is still running...
[06:33] <SuperMiguel> there is any way to log onto a ubuntu computer with login in using putty?
[06:33] <Troy_McClure> and fglrx doesn't show up in a modprobe
 Deon|alt: As long as the hardware is supported; just ethernet should be fine.
[06:33] <Deon|alt> dialup?
[06:34] <davidv> when i install xp it shows as 1 drive.. but ubuntu 2 any ideas?
[06:34] <Troy_McClure> Deon|alt, if you have a modem, you are in dire straights unless it happens to be a hardware modem OR something supported by the community that has written drivers for winmodems
[06:34] <andresmujica> silvertip257: normally suse and ubuntu (maybe mandrake) update the grub menu with all the distros installed (if you install some of this ones after the other distro).. but you can do it manually modifying /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:34] <Nihil1985> andresmujica: i discovered a #amarok channel!!!
[06:35] <Deon|alt> Troy_McClure: it's just a normal modem.. that runs with Windows's "Standard 56000 Modem" driver
[06:35] <cafuego> Deon|alt: Should be be if it's no winmodem.
[06:35] <silvertip257> andresmujica do you know of any tutorials ? b/c I've tried what I thought should work, but only one of them worked properly
[06:35] <holycow> cafuego, :) later
[06:36] <cafuego> damn cat
[06:36] <ArrenLex> What did the poor bird do to you? o_o
[06:36] <andresmujica> supermiguel, try apt-get install openssh-server  and then in putty put your ip nad voila!
[06:36] <cafuego> ArrenLex: cat got it and is toying with it; broken wing and broken eye... better finish it off with a whack of the shovel.
[06:36] <ArrenLex> andresmujica: nad voila, eh?
[06:37] <ArrenLex> Oh. = /
[06:37] <andresmujica> silvertip257: nop. not really, maybe at tldp.org
[06:37] <ArrenLex> Poor bird. ._.
[06:37] <cafuego> Um, YOU're talking about nads, I'm not.
[06:37] <silvertip257> ok ty andresmujica
[06:37] <catalytic> can anyone help me to remove these weird ati radeon drivers, and revert back to those from the original ubuntu installation, i think they were mesa
[06:37] <Troy_McClure> Deon|alt, you need to open your case, find the chipset the modem has, and then see if it is supported from http://linmodems.org/
[06:37] <CorpseFeeder> I'm still getting nowhere... I can't get nothing but blank video from capturing with VLC and Video4Linux... using lavrec in console gives errors and to top things off I keep losing connection to IRC.
[06:37] <ArrenLex> catalytic: apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:37] <Troy_McClure> or cool they have a scanmodem tool
[06:37] <cafuego> Troy_McClure: getting a linmodem to work on floppyfw (2.2 kernel) might be pushing it.
[06:37] <ArrenLex> catalytic: then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and use the radeon driver.
[06:38] <Deon|alt> wow this is turning out harder than I thought..
[06:38] <Troy_McClure> ah lol yeah...
[06:38] <catalytic> ok, but i think i already tried something like that
[06:38] <cafuego> Deon|alt: Download floppyfw. Make the floppy, boot it. See what's detected.
[06:38] <davidv> so anyone any ideas?
[06:38] <ArrenLex> Ideas about what?
[06:38] <Deon|alt> cafuego: doing it now :)
[06:39] <davidv> my raid question
[06:39] <ArrenLex> Oh. nope.
[06:39] <davidv> d'oh
[06:39] <CorpseFeeder> I can't work out how to use XawTV and there certainly doesn't appear to be anyway to make it do video capture. I am lost.
[06:39] <L3TUC3> oh
[06:39] <L3TUC3> I guess im now installing an older kernel
[06:39] <Troy_McClure> what is the 6.10 support channel?
[06:39] <catalytic> i do that and i get
[06:40] <catalytic> postinst warning
[06:40] <ArrenLex> Tony: ubuntu+1
[06:40] <catalytic> overwriting possivly-customised configuration
[06:40] <catalytic> even when i use sudo
[06:40] <ArrenLex> catalytic: yes. Have you customised xorg.conf?
[06:40] <L3TUC3> man, I really neec to learn to read
[06:40] <ArrenLex> If so, you should edit manually. If not, feel free to plunge ahead.
[06:40] <andresmujica> david: maybe there's no raid driver for your car in the kernel?  or are you sure that windows is seeing the raid and not only one of the disks??
[06:40] <catalytic> i think i might of
[06:40] <captine> hey all.  running dapper on Presario notebook.  the mouse seems a bit weird (mousepad).  The left click and drag doesn't work properly when moving files/icons.  I have to re-try like 3 times. an newbi. does the mouse function different in Ubuntu that Windows XP?
[06:40] <ArrenLex> Might have *
[06:40] <devilsrejection> hey guys, who is playing around with edgy eft?
[06:41] <ArrenLex> catalytic: then pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf, please.
[06:41] <catalytic> can i just rename the xorg.conf to the new one the auto setup
[06:41] <ArrenLex> devilrejection: the people in #ubuntu+1 are.
[06:41] <catalytic> hmm thast going to be hard to do
[06:41] <catalytic> im on my mac
[06:41] <ArrenLex> catalytic: fine, just back up your file, then.
[06:41] <catalytic> and the other computer is the one i cant get xserver
[06:41] <catalytic> to run on
[06:42] <CorpseFeeder> It seems all linux is good for is browsing/email and strange games... As soon as I try to do anything even slightly technical (like wireless networking or audio recording or video capture) it just chokes and dies ;(
[06:43] <Dr_willis> CorpseFeeder,  you need to do more research i think.
[06:43] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, well no, you either have unsupported hardware or haven't learned to us it.
[06:43] <devilsrejection> well the majority of users just do email and browsing
[06:43] <ArrenLex> CorpseFeeder: don't blame Linux. Blame hardware makers who refuse to release specs or drivers.
[06:43] <devilsrejection> no one is in ubuntu+1, where else can i chat with people about edgy eft?
[06:43] <devilsrejection> oh guys you're going to love how the fonts are rendered, they don't look like crap anymore
[06:43] <ArrenLex> Actually, 162 people are in #ubuntu+1, devils.
[06:44] <Dr_willis> The current state of Wireless networking - is a bit of a fiasco under all os's
[06:44] <devilsrejection> yes, but no one is posting
[06:44] <holycow> wireless actually works great on ubuntu
[06:44] <holycow> you just need the correct wireless cards
[06:44] <holycow> they are listed on the wiki infact
[06:44] <Dr_willis> holycow,  i find the whole way wireless works - to be the issue. :)
[06:44] <holycow> video acquisition is fine too, provided you have a supported card
[06:45] <CorpseFeeder> the video hardware is supposedly supported I just can't seem to convince the capture card of that.
[06:45] <holycow> Dr_Fate, people keep on saying that, i keep on buying supported hardware and have no issues
[06:45] <Dr_willis> holycow,  and ive seen several audio-recording studios done  with linmux machines. :)
[06:45] <SuperMigue1> there is way that you can set up an automatically log in on gnome a mean, that when you turn on your computer it wont ask you for a password it will juts go in
[06:45] <Dr_willis> holycow,  i dont mean the specific cards/stuff. i mean HOW the wireless standards are lacking.
[06:46] <holycow> Dr_Fate, willis, neato ... that has been next on my list with respect ot actually getting proper sound capture cards
[06:46] <Dr_willis> SuperMigue1,  check the GDM control panel/tools/tabs i know kde has that feature.. i thought gnome did also.
[06:46] <L3TUC3> ruhroh
[06:46] <holycow> Dr_willis, are they? seems to me that the only thing thats lacking in terms of standards is this latest stuff they are shoving ... x something i forget.
[06:46] <Dr_willis> holycow,  a Linux Journal (I think) magazine showd/built a totally slient recording system
[06:46] <holycow> vendors are releasing hardware for a standard not agreed upon
[06:46] <holycow> poor suckers that buy these things
[06:46] <CorpseFeeder> my card is DC10+ and I've been to this page already http://usuario.cicese.mx/~mirsev/Linux/DC10plus/ and not got anywhere...
[06:47] <holycow> Dr_willis, i'd love to see that article infact
[06:47] <CorpseFeeder> except for errors
[06:47] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, get a new one.
[06:47] <Dr_willis> holycow,  thats  seems to be the history of wireless. :P i recall G stuff comming out prematurely, then ya got the  other variants..  gets me all confused.. so it must really confuse  the commonfolks.
[06:47] <holycow> one with atheros chipset preferably
[06:47] <L3TUC3> aww
[06:47] <L3TUC3> my nvidia driver install failed :(
[06:48] <Dr_willis> holycow,  yea. it had a 'custome made' wooden/desk/case/ for the system.  with water coolers..  No fans/noise at all.
[06:48] <holycow> neat
[06:48] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: why don't you just install from ubuntu packages?
[06:48] <Dr_willis> it was Either Linux Journal or Linux Magazine
[06:48] <holycow> i'd like to know what sound capture card they used and what software for recording
[06:48] <L3TUC3> I did
[06:48] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: and what happened?
[06:48] <L3TUC3> script error
[06:49] <Dr_willis> I think it was some Professional sound card.  :) not sure what.. it may of been in the mag about a year or so ago.
[06:49] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: let's see.
[06:49] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, btw i really don't mean to sound  smug
[06:49] <ArrenLex> willis: may have been *
[06:49] <L3TUC3> 1 sec
[06:49] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, the truth of the matter is that hardware manufactures simply don't want to release hardware specs ... specs are necessary and everyone should have them available
[06:49] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, the microsoft world has taught them to be lazy and greedy
[06:50] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, so what you get now is a situation where you have a ton of hardware out there without specs being released so you are now at the mercy of the manufacturers
[06:50] <SpaceFrog> Whats the best program i can use for viewing/capturing from my Webcam?
[06:50] <holycow> you have NO FREEDOM whatsoever
[06:51] <holycow> and thus you end up with a situation where people not aware of that fact (and why its important to know) trying to get crappy hardware from greedy companies to work on platforms the greedy hardware companies don't want to help out
[06:51] <L3TUC3> Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[06:51] <L3TUC3> This script cannot proceed automatically. If you believe that this
[06:51] <L3TUC3> not correct, you can update the md5sum entry executing the following
[06:51] <L3TUC3> command:
[06:51] <L3TUC3> md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf | sudo tee /var/lib/xfree86/xorg.conf.md5sum
[06:51] <L3TUC3> otherwise edit manually /etc/X11/xorg.conf to change the Driver section
[06:51] <L3TUC3> from nv to nvidia.
[06:51] <CorpseFeeder> I also wanted to try Linux Video Studio from here http://ronald.bitfreak.net/lvs but I can't work out how to get it installed
[06:51] <holycow> CorpseFeeder, so i really mean the suggestion to sound like 'the shortest way to a painless linux experience is researching A LOT what hardware is supported and known to work and then supporting those manufacturers with your buying power
[06:52] <holycow> i know thats not easy for students for example and individuals in certain parts of the world where even dialup is a luxury
[06:52] <L3TUC3> this is after sudo nvidia-glx-config enable btw
[06:52] <Deon|alt> Okay.. I've run floppyfw
[06:52] <Deon|alt> its come to a command-prompt like screen
[06:52] <andresmujica> CorpseFeeder: check this http://mjpeg.sourceforge.net/driver-zoran/cards.php
[06:52] <Deon|alt> # _
[06:53] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: so just change manually. o_O
[06:53] <SAS_Spidey01> Does gnome have any thing like kmix I can use to tweak volumes ?
[06:53] <CorpseFeeder> that doesn't really help me. It's just a page which tells me my card IS supported, but when I try to use it it doesn't work.
[06:53] <Dr_willis> !find mixer
[06:53] <ubotu> Found: alsa-utils, kmix, libsdl-mixer1.2, libsdl-mixer1.2-dev, alsamixergui (and 11 others)
[06:53] <L3TUC3> ok, will try
[06:53] <Homer> is Jewbuntu out yet?
[06:53] <andresmujica> CorpseFeeder: modprobe zr36067 and check dmesg so you can see if your card was recognized
[06:54] <Dr_willis> SAS_Spidey01,  thers some gnome mixer.. but i dont rember its command.. I perfer the actual alsa mixers
[06:54] <SAS_Spidey01> Only familer /w OSS but if it works
[06:54] <Deon|alt> what should i do now?
[06:54] <jugg> are there any known problem(s) (under 6.06) with shuting down a system (shutdown -h now) remotely (via ssh) while there are active local sessions (I don't see any reported bugs)?  Even since doing that, on boot I get an error: "mount: Mounting /dev/hda3 on /root failed: No such device"  Although /dev/hda3 is valid, and can be mounted when booting from a livecd.  Any suggestions on where to start l
[06:54] <jugg> ooking?
[06:55] <kairu0> hi all
[06:55] <SAS_Spidey01> hello
[06:55] <kairu0> hey SAS_Spidey01
[06:55] <kairu0> quick question: what is the easiest way to mount a remote linux filesystem from my ubuntu box
[06:56] <L3TUC3> ah
[06:56] <L3TUC3> the file is read only
[06:56] <ArrenLex> kairu0: The absolutely easiest way? fish. It requires nothing on either the server or the client.
[06:56] <Madpilot> Homer, not funny. Be polite, or go away.
[06:56] <andresmujica> CorpseFeeder: then you can install xawtv mjpeg
[06:56] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: of course. Edit it with sudo.
[06:56] <SAS_Spidey01> Mmm, been wanting to see what fltk widgets looked like
[06:56] <L3TUC3> hokay
[06:56] <kairu0> ArrenLex, fish is a package?
[06:57] <ArrenLex> Fish is a protocol.
[06:57] <ArrenLex> !fish
[06:57] <ubotu> fish: a friendly interactive shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.20.0-1 (dapper), package size 355 kB, installed size 1596 kB
[06:57] <ArrenLex> No, not that fish.
[06:57] <L3TUC3> so how can i change a file from read only if I do not own it?
[06:57] <CorpseFeeder> I have xawtv installed already. And where do I find dmesg
[06:57] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: don't change the file to be writeable! Just edit it with sudo.
[06:57] <Madpilot> L3TUC3, if you don't own it and it's read only, the system probably likes it that way...
[06:58] <L3TUC3> hmm
[06:58] <L3TUC3> ok
[06:58] <L3TUC3> sudo is still new to me
[06:58] <andresmujica> CorpseFeeder: you need to open a console and run dmesg or look for ksystemlog or gsystemlog (don't know which one from gnome)
[06:58] <SAS_Spidey01> Thanks Dr_willis thats much better
[06:58] <ArrenLex> kairu: do you need to have the filesystem mounted? Or do you only need to send files to it?
[06:59] <Nox2k3> So, I'm working on Plan B at the moment, and my fglrx driver seems to want X.org 7.0.-1.8 and I have <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:59] <Dr_willis> SAS_Spidey01,  my soundblaster audigy card has like 40 sliders.. :) it goes across 3 monitors...
[06:59] <L3TUC3> hmm
[06:59] <Nox2k3> Does anyone know how to fix this particular problem?
[06:59] <L3TUC3> how do I sudo this file then?
[06:59] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: in the terminal, type "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[07:00] <kairu0> ArrenLex, i need to mount it
[07:00] <ArrenLex> L3: then go down to the line that says "Driver" "nv" and change "nv" to "nvidia"
[07:00] <SAS_Spidey01> I didn't count it, but there's plenty hehe
[07:00] <ArrenLex> kairu0: then I guess ssh.
[07:00] <Davey> Can I do a mirrored raid with 120+40GB = 160GB, and 2*80GB drives?
[07:00] <kairu0> ArrenLex, sshfs?
[07:00] <kishore> hi all
[07:00] <ArrenLex> kairu0: yes. Here's a guide if you need one: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/10/28/how-to-mount-a-remote-ssh-filesystem-using-sshfs/
[07:00] <CorpseFeeder> i see a lot of stuff output from dmesg... what am I looking for?
[07:00] <kishore> i had installed eclipse on my box
[07:00] <devilsrejection> so do you guys think the ubuntu guys will ever make things easy for people trying to play back content? as in mp3's mov's xvid/divx etc
[07:01] <SAS_Spidey01> Nice not to have to install drivers for my audigy 4 ether
[07:01] <kishore> showing some errors like this....
[07:01] <kishore> JVM terminated. Exit code=1
[07:01] <kishore> /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[07:01] <kishore> -Djava.library.path=/usr/lib/jni
[07:01] <kishore> -Dgnu.gcj.precompiled.db.path=/var/lib/gcj-4.1/classmap.db
[07:01] <kishore> -Dgnu.gcj.runtime.VMClassLoader.library_control=never
[07:01] <kairu0> ArrenLex, thankx
[07:01] <kishore> -Dosgi.locking=none
[07:01] <kishore> -jar /usr/share/eclipse/startup.jar
[07:01] <kishore> -os linux
[07:01] <kishore> -ws gtk
[07:01] <Example5> Alright, I'm having some serious trouble trying to configure xserver under 6.06. It won't start up because I had to format the harddrive on another computer and do the installation there due to some issues with it hanging up during the partioning on the other computer. So when I tried to configure xserver-xorg, it says its not there. And when I try to apt-get it get a parsing error and it stops. Anything I try after t
[07:01] <kishore> -arch x86
[07:01] <kishore> -launcher /usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse
[07:01] <kishore> -name Eclipse
[07:01] <kishore> -showsplash 600
[07:01] <ArrenLex> !flood
[07:01] <kishore> -exitdata 160014
[07:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:01] <kishore> -install /usr/share/eclipse
[07:01] <kishore> -vm /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj/bin/java
[07:01] <ArrenLex> STOP IT, KISHORE
[07:01] <kishore> -vmargs
[07:01] <Lam_> how do i connect to WPA2 enabled networks in KDE?
[07:01] <kishore> -Djava.library.path=/usr/lib/jni
[07:01] <kishore> -Dgnu.gcj.precompiled.db.path=/var/lib/gcj-4.1/classmap.db
[07:01] <ArrenLex> !ops
[07:01] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[07:01] <kishore> -Dgnu.gcj.runtime.VMClassLoader.library_control=never
[07:01] <kishore> -Dosgi.locking=none
[07:01] <kishore> -jar /usr/share/eclipse/startup.jar
[07:01] <devilsrejection> Example5, just reformat the machine, takes 15 minutes to install ubuntu
[07:02] <Madpilot> kishore, I'll unmute you in 5 minutes.
[07:02] <CorpseFeeder> i dont see gsystemlog or whatever anywhere
[07:02] <Example5> I can't, the computer will hang up
[07:02] <devilsrejection> then you have a hardware issue my friend
[07:02] <Example5> I had to put it on another machine to format and install, then move the harddrive to that machine
[07:02] <devilsrejection> fix your machine first
[07:02] <jugg> any input on where to start looking for a solution when on boot this error shows up but /dev/hda3 can be verified valid from a livecd? "mount: Mounting /dev/hda3 on /root failed: No such device"
[07:02] <Example5> Everything else seems to be fine about it
[07:03] <Example5> It can run the live cd and such, but dies during formatting
[07:03] <devilsrejection> if it hangs during an install it isn't fine
[07:03] <L3TUC3> hmm, how can i edit the file in sudo nano?
[07:03] <devilsrejection> run the standard memory and hard drive tests
[07:03] <Example5> The harddrive and memory is fine
[07:04] <CorpseFeeder> I think my capture card must be detected. I just can't make it work for whatever reason.
[07:04] <Example5> I've been through several old harddrives because I though somethign was wrong
[07:04] <sryan__> Are the mirrors broke?
[07:04] <sryan__> I keep getting a gzip error code.
[07:04] <sryan__> on one of them.
[07:04] <suff0kate> anyone know how to work a philips mp3 player up on ubuntu?
[07:04] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: if you don't understand nano, use "sudo gedit"
[07:05] <Madpilot> sryan__, mirrors break sometimes; try the main repo
[07:05] <devilsrejection> we, then test your ram
[07:05] <dbzdeath> i'm having some very annoying troubles with my new sound card which is an audigy value using the ca0106 driver my audio gets all crackly and laggy when there is a bit of cpu usage and it happens when xmms is set to use the alsa or the oss driver i still get the same problem could someone please help me?
[07:05] <Example5> The computer might be at the end of its life
[07:05] <L3TUC3> ah
[07:05] <L3TUC3> it opens a new file
[07:06] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: it shouldn't. "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[07:06] <L3TUC3> woopsie, forgot the root /
[07:07] <L3TUC3> excellent, that worked
[07:07] <ArrenLex> L3TUC3: now change the line "Driver" "nv" to "Driver" "nvidia"
[07:07] <Example5> The harddrive and the memory are fine, replaced the ides. Everything I could think of. Unless something is terribly wrong with the mother board.
[07:07] <DirtyOmlet> hi all
[07:08] <SAS_Spidey01> Does everyone else get funky lines when they edit a line in Mozilla browsers???
[07:08] <ArrenLex> L3: Sorry, no quotes around Driver.
[07:08] <ArrenLex> SAS: edit a line?
[07:08] <mister_roboto> can someone describe the difference between the "toolame" and "lame" utilities?
[07:08] <CorpseFeeder> lets forget about getting nowhere with my unsolvable capture card problems for a moment... I have a mic connected to a soundblaster PCI64 card which is permanently stuck on 0% volume and records silence in Sound Recorder. Do you think it would be possible to get this mic working?
[07:09] <L3TUC3> hooray!
[07:09] <L3TUC3> it worked
[07:09] <ArrenLex> mister_roboto: toolame = mp2. lame = mp3.
[07:09] <SAS_Spidey01> Such as moving the cursor back over a word to edit some thing you just typed when using a formfill e.t.c.
[07:09] <SAS_Spidey01> it looks like shadows of the cursor stick on screen
[07:09] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: what is the diff between those formats?
[07:10] <ArrenLex> mister_roboto: wikipedia would better answer that, I think.
[07:10] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: thanks :)
[07:10] <ArrenLex> Basically mp3 is a better format. mp2 is older.
[07:10] <tonyyarusso> Why would tightvncserver return "A VNC server is already running as :0" if vino and any process containing vnc are not running?
[07:10] <ArrenLex> roboto: MP2 is a sub-band audio encoder, which means that compression takes place in the time domain. By comparison, MP3 is a transform audio encoder, which means that compression takes place in the frequency domain after transformation from the time domain.
[07:10] <ArrenLex> Does that help?
[07:10] <ArrenLex> (from the mp2 wikipedia entry)
[07:11] <ArrenLex> The MP2 encoder does not exploit interchannel redundancies. This makes MP2 less efficient than MP3 on low bitrates (lower than 256 kbit/s). For example, a 128 kbit/s MP3 encoded audio usually sounds, to the human ear, truer to the original source than the same audio encoded as 192 kbit/s MP2.
[07:11] <ArrenLex> And so on.
[07:11] <Example5> Okay, this computer is really getting to me
[07:11] <SAS_Spidey01> makes mozilla browsers very hard to read when using search bars & forums
[07:11] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: well... i was really wondering if anyone had experience encoding to both and if the diff was really all that noticeable
[07:11] <Example5> 5.10 live works, 6.06 live stalls. and the install for both versions I have hang up at 9% during the partioning
[07:12] <ArrenLex> tony: 'cause you're already running a vnc server, I'm assuming. ps -A | grep vnc?
[07:12] <Example5> But, I can do a full installation with the harddrive on another computer no problems
[07:12] <ArrenLex> mister: what are you considering encoding?
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> ArrenLex: Did ps aux | grep vnc AND ps aux | grep vino and came up with nothing.
[07:13] <L3TUC3> ok, now that 3d harware is on, lets go and see about xgl and compiz
[07:13] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: some music files that i ripped form a cd. used lame before but never used toolame
[07:13] <wendell> good night
[07:13] <ArrenLex> mister: why not ogg?
[07:13] <wendell> Guys, I need help.
[07:13] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: i'd like to play it on an ipod (my wife's actually). does ipod do ogg?
[07:14] <wendell> I tried to install drivers for Nvidia card, and I need to set
[07:14] <wendell> a enviroment variable to gcc3.4
[07:14] <ArrenLex> mister: I'm assuming no. Why not mp3?
[07:14] <ArrenLex> wendell: why not install nvidia drivers from ubuntu repos?
[07:14] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: was just looking at toolame because lame isn't in the ubuntu repos
[07:14] <CorpseFeeder> I guess mic problems are insolvable too.
[07:15] <ArrenLex> tony: then I guess you have a lock file that's left over from a previous vnc session.
[07:15] <ArrenLex> mister: lame's in multiverse, I believe.
[07:15] <ArrenLex> !lame
[07:15] <ubotu> lame: LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.96.1-1 (dapper), package size 222 kB, installed size 620 kB
[07:15] <ArrenLex> Yep.
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> ArrenLex: Looks like that's the case; we're trying removing that now.
[07:15] <wendell> How, please?
[07:16] <tritium> !nvidia
[07:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:16] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: ahhh, it's just not in edgy then
[07:16] <wendell> What repo I find it?
[07:16] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: i have multiverse but i'm running edgy
[07:16] <Jbirk> apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:16] <tritium> wendell: read that URL above
[07:16] <eegore> I tried installing XGL and now my direct rendering is not working
[07:16] <ArrenLex> mister: add a dapper line, then, to /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:16] <CorpseFeeder> getting back to video capturing... apparently mplayer will do video capture too. I don't see any option in mplayer for anything other than playback. Capturing from a device is not an apparent option. So how would I capture video with mplayer if indeed it really does do video capture?
[07:16] <DirtyOmlet> hey anyone have issues when trying to fulfull dependencies in edgy?
[07:16] <wendell> Version breezy
[07:16] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: good idea :)
[07:16] <Jbirk> then edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change Driver "nv" to Driver "nvidia" and restart X
[07:16] <ArrenLex> eegore: they might be able to help you more in #ubuntu-xgl
[07:17] <Blippe> mister_roboto, edgy is in #ubuntu+1
[07:17] <mister_roboto> Blippe: yes, i know. was asking about toolame vs lame, mainly
[07:17] <ArrenLex> CorpseFeeder: I suggest "man mplayer", for it is God unto all manpages.
[07:17] <wendell> OK, its running.
[07:18] <ArrenLex> mister: I strongly believe that encoding all yours songs to mp2 format is a worse solution than adding a line to a text file =P
[07:18] <eegore> ArrenLex: a lot of sleepers but no help
[07:19] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: point taken :)    does apt-get use the first line in sources.list in which it finds a match?
[07:19] <ArrenLex> mister_roboto: apt-get will use the most recent version of a package available to it.
[07:19] <ozzloy> how do i fix gvim copy and paste by clicking
[07:19] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: ok, great.   thanks
[07:19] <wendell> OK. I'm trying to install 3ddesk under Breezy, and get this when running Attempting to start 3ddesktop server.
[07:19] <wendell> 3ddeskd: glXIsDirect failed, no Direct Rendering possible!
[07:19] <wendell> 3ddeskd: Please configure hardware acceleration.  Exiting.
[07:20] <ArrenLex> wendell: do you have direct rendering?
[07:20] <wendell> What I have to do to correct it.
[07:20] <ArrenLex> What's the output of glxinfo | grep Dire
[07:20] <ArrenLex> Sorry, that's | grep dire
[07:20] <ArrenLex> glxinfo | grep dire
[07:20] <ArrenLex> wendell: and also glxinfo | grep renderer
[07:21] <wendell>  glxinfo | grep renderer
[07:21] <wendell> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[07:21] <ArrenLex> wendell: did you install the proper drivers for your card?
[07:21] <ArrenLex> nvidia for nvidia and fglrx for ati?
[07:21] <Jbirk> I don't have Direct Rendering, yet I have XGL running
[07:21] <Jbirk> Can you explain?
[07:22] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: What's the output of your glxinfo | grep renderer?
[07:22] <wendell> I'm have an FX 5200
[07:22] <Jbirk> OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 7300 GT/PCI/SSE2/3DNOW!
[07:22] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: there you go. You have 3D acceleration.
[07:22] <wendell> I have an FX5200.
[07:22] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: direct rendering might be something different. Thanks; I'll stop asking for it.
[07:22] <ArrenLex> Wendell: what kind of card is that?
[07:23] <Davey> How is Ubuntu with HFS+ ?
[07:23] <ozzloy> when i highlight stuff in gvim and then right click elsewhere, it doesn't paste what i highlighted.  how do i fix that?
[07:23] <Jbirk> I thought I have XGL and Beryl running
[07:23] <ArrenLex> !hfs
[07:23] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:23] <Jbirk> It rusn fantastic
[07:23] <emmanuel_> hey there is a kind of eraser for ubuntu
[07:23] <emmanuel_> ?
[07:23] <Jbirk> I wanted to build a cheap, ubnuntu friendly computer
[07:23] <emmanuel_> or cleaner
[07:23] <ArrenLex> ozzjoy: you mean, middle click?
[07:23] <wendell> I need to enable hardware acceleration. How?
[07:23] <Jbirk> Does anyone know a good, cheap wireless card that works with Dapper out of the box.  i.e. no driver required
[07:23] <ArrenLex> emmanuel: what are you trying to clean?
[07:24] <Nox2k3> Hey does anyone know what I can do about  the [R200Setup]  X version mismatch - detected X.org <IP_ADDRESS>, required X.org 7.0.-1.8?
[07:24] <Nox2k3> I'm using fglrx 8.25.18
[07:24] <emmanuel_> history files mozilla
[07:24] <ArrenLex> Nox: downgrade?
[07:24] <emmanuel_> tracks
[07:24] <Nox2k3> 7.0.-1?
[07:24] <Nox2k3> it wants a -1 version?
[07:24] <ArrenLex> emmanuel: just clear private data in mozilla.
[07:24] <Jbirk> NOx, I would do this
[07:24] <ArrenLex> Nox: no, it doesn't want a -1 version, it wasn't a 7.0 to .1 version.
[07:24] <captine> hi all  sudo apt-get install wine tells me that wine cannot be found.  any ideas?
[07:24] <ArrenLex> i.e. 7.0 to 7.1
[07:24] <Jbirk> apt-get remove xserver-xorg
[07:24] <Jbirk> then delete
[07:24] <Linuxactivist> ozzloy, in linux you paste by either middle button clicking (pressing on the scroll wheel in most cases) or by "chord" pressing bothe the left and right mouse at the same time in order to simulate a middle button.
[07:24] <captine> I've enabled every repository i could find
[07:24] <Jbirk> then
[07:24] <Jbirk> apt-get install xserver-xorg
[07:25] <wendell> I got this    glxinfo | grep renderer
[07:25] <wendell> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[07:25] <Jbirk> and configure it from scratch
[07:25] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: what on earth is the point of that?
[07:25] <Jbirk> To fix his Xserver problem
[07:25] <ArrenLex> wendell: what is your card? nvidia? ati?
[07:25] <Jbirk> It worekd for me
[07:25] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: why not just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[07:25] <Jbirk> I had a situation where XGL would not run no matter what
[07:25] <Jbirk> I tried that and it didn't work for me once
[07:25] <wendell> Nvidia FX5200 128MB
[07:25] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: or even apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg?
[07:25] <ArrenLex> Ah. Are you using the nvidia driver?
[07:26] <Jbirk> ArrenLex, that may work
[07:26] <Nox2k3> alright, downgrading would require me to tell apt to not install 7.1.1, and I'm not sure how to do that
[07:26] <Nox2k3> theres a guide i imagine though..
[07:26] <ArrenLex> Nox: apt-pinning. Google for it.
[07:26] <Nox2k3> ah, thanks for saving some time
[07:26] <wendell> I install under it apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:26] <Troy_McClure> bleh... trying to remember the name of that script that automatically detects and mounts windows drives, anyone know??
[07:26] <Byan> how do I install a printer from a shell?
[07:26] <ArrenLex> Or here, I'll google for it. http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
[07:26] <Nox2k3> thanks for even more time saving
[07:26] <captine> !wine
[07:26] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:26] <CorpseFeeder> "man mplayer" gives me over 7000 lines of stuff I couldn't possible search through in a day. Isn't there an easier way to view that info like in a text editor window or browser window?
[07:27] <Davey> CorpseFeeder: try man mplayer | grep "search term"
[07:27] <ArrenLex> CorpseFeeder: of course. man mplayer > /tmp/mplayer and then you can just gedit /tmp/mplayer
[07:27] <Davey> yeah,  was about to say that :)
[07:27] <Davey> !lfs
[07:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lfs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:27] <Jbirk> Sorry for any bad advice
[07:27] <Davey> !lvm
[07:27] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[07:27] <Jbirk> What is a good, cheap wireless card that will work out of the box?
[07:28] <Jbirk> I need them to be PCI
[07:28] <ArrenLex> !wireless
[07:28] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:28] <Linuxactivist> CorpseFeeder: man mplayer | lpr
[07:28] <wendell> I had downloaded the drivers for nvidia site. When I tried to install, the installer told me to change the environment variable to change the version of gcc to 3.4 I have both the 3.4 and 4.0 versions
[07:28] <Jbirk> and I am boing to buy 2
[07:28] <Linuxactivist> sends it to the printer
[07:28] <holycow> wendell, don't every use that installer
[07:28] <holycow> !nvidia
[07:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:28] <ArrenLex> CoprseFeeder: don't print the man page, please.
[07:28] <holycow> please use that information, it will make your life easier
[07:28] <dibblego> is it possible to use acidrip to rip a DVD without director commentary?
[07:28] <Byan> >_<
[07:29] <Byan> someone want to not ignore me, or at least tell me they don't know
[07:29] <wendell> holicow: What I have to do so?
[07:29] <ArrenLex> Byan: don't know what?
[07:29] <Byan> how to install a printer from the shell
[07:29] <Linuxactivist> Byan: what's the problem again?
[07:29] <ArrenLex> Byan: be more specific. What printing subsystem? What does the driver look like?
[07:29] <Jbirk> Can someone do me a favor and give me a NewEgg link to a good Dapper Wireless card?
[07:30] <Linuxactivist> printer from shell... not sure.  never done it.  I know that it is a pain.  I always do it graphically, even on the solaris boxes that I manage.
[07:30] <Jbirk> All I need is a cheap 802.11G card
[07:30] <Jbirk> that will just work
[07:30] <ArrenLex> Jbirk: how about google?
[07:30] <Byan> ArrenLex: I don't know...
[07:30] <dibblego> Jbirk, Netgear WG511v2 (note not WG511v3)
[07:31] <ArrenLex> Byan: okay, have you already found a driver for your printer? Have you already installed a print system?
[07:31] <Byan> I have an OfficeJet 4315
[07:31] <ArrenLex> HP?
[07:31] <Byan> yeah
[07:31] <Byan> print system? not to my knoledge
[07:31] <ArrenLex> Byan: you need the hpijs package, for starters.
[07:31] <Linuxactivist> Byan: why do you have to install it from the shell.  Why can't you use the graphical tools?
[07:31] <Byan> Linuxactivist: it's a headless server
[07:32] <ozzloy> Linuxactivist: sorry, that's what i meant
[07:32] <ArrenLex> Byan: what's the output of `which lpr`?
[07:32] <ozzloy> that's not working in gvim for me.  i can do it with everything else
[07:32] <Byan> ArrenLex: /usr/bin/lpr
[07:33] <Linuxactivist> ozzloy: Are you making sure you are in edit mode before pasting to gvi?
[07:33] <Linuxactivist> gvim?
[07:33] <ArrenLex> Byan: install the hplip package.
[07:33] <holycow> ozzloy, why not use nano? its is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar easier than vim or anything else
[07:33] <holycow> the instructions on how to use it are one line on the bottom of nano
[07:34] <Byan> both hpijs and hplip?
[07:34] <ozzloy> Linuxactivist: yeah, it's pasting what was in the buffer before i highlight
[07:34] <ozzloy> so basically highlighting isn't updating the paste buffer
[07:34] <ArrenLex> Byan: Sorry, I lied. You only need hlpip if it's a scanner.
[07:34] <ArrenLex> Byan: for printer only, hpijs
[07:34] <ozzloy> holycow: haven't used nano enough, but i like gvim
[07:34] <Byan> >_<
[07:34] <Byan> wait
[07:34] <Byan> oh, thats a typo
[07:34] <Byan> ok, so.. I install both..
[07:35] <Byan> should I remove one? or does it even matter?
[07:35] <ArrenLex> Byan: you don't need hplip. Remove it.
[07:35] <Byan> ArrenLex: it has a scanner on it though..
[07:35] <holycow> byan its a multifunction unit from hp?
[07:35] <holycow> ouch
[07:35] <ArrenLex> Byan: oh; then just install hplip.
[07:35] <holycow> those rarely are without issue
[07:36] <Byan> ArrenLex: >_<
[07:36] <ArrenLex> holycow: really? I have one and it works beautifully out of the box.
[07:36] <Byan> so now install hplip and uninstall the other one?
[07:36] <ArrenLex> Byan: should have been more specific as to what you had! =P
[07:36] <ArrenLex> Byan: yes. hplip only.
[07:36] <holycow> if you want a multifunction unit that actually is supported on linx try brother ... they have redhat AND debian packages of their drivers
[07:36] <mister_roboto> ArrenLex: fyi, i only had multiverse enabled for backports. that was my problem. "lame" is still in multiverse in edgy :)
[07:36] <Byan> ArrenLex: hplip will be able to print and scan then?
[07:36] <holycow> ArrenLex, hp does a great job with printer drivers, but for any of their other peripherals ... they do a crappy job
[07:37] <holycow> particularly hp scanners are not supported well under linux
[07:37] <ArrenLex> ByanL yes.
[07:37] <ArrenLex> holycow: I've not experienced a problem with the multifunction and the HP scanner.
[07:37] <holycow> 'the' and 'the'
[07:37] <Byan> ArrenLex: alright, now what?
[07:37] <KEA0463> sup geeks
[07:37] <holycow> how many do you own?
[07:37] <KEA0463> sup
[07:37] <holycow> i have gone through hundreds
[07:37] <ArrenLex> Byan: apt-get install cupsys cupsys-bsd
[07:37] <holycow> and i even have one old hp scanner that actually works too
[07:38] <ozzloy> sup KEA0463
[07:38] <Byan> ArrenLex: those are already installed
[07:38] <ArrenLex> Byan: it should tell you that you'll have to remove the lpr package. This is fine.
[07:38] <ArrenLex> Oh.
[07:38] <ArrenLex> Good.
[07:39] <Byan> hmm, I should prolly plug the thing in before I do any more...
[07:39] <ArrenLex> Byan: while I try to figure out how to set up printing from the command line, you can play around with the "scanimage" command to scan =P
[07:39] <ArrenLex> Byan: that would help!
[07:39] <ArrenLex> Byan: to use the scanimage command, install sane-utils package.
[07:40] <ArrenLex> Byan: tell me when you've plugged it in.
[07:40] <ozzloy> how do i get gvim to update the paste buffer when i highlight stuff so i can paste it by middle click?
[07:40] <keltorsori> anyone ever seen "menu item 'pkgsel' failed on an install?
[07:41] <ArrenLex> keltorsori: is this a configure script? Or a debian package install?
[07:41] <wendell> Thanks for the help. I had installed the drivers ans nvidia-xconfig from the site and now my 3ddesk runs great. Thanks!
[07:41] <ArrenLex> wendell: enjoy!
[07:41] <keltorsori> fresh daily install
[07:41] <keltorsori> Arrenlex: fresh daily (edgy) install
[07:41] <ArrenLex> Oh! An ubuntu OS install!
[07:41] <ArrenLex> That's different.
[07:42] <ArrenLex> keltorsori: that's definitely not normal. All I can tell you is not to use the dailies if you don't want to encounter bugs.
[07:42] <keltorsori> ArrenLex: bug i submitted in the install got fixed in the new daily, but now i'm getting to the final package installation phase and failing at around 8% with ""menu item 'pkgsel' failed" in the console
[07:42] <ihatetripe> This is a really really rubbish question. How would I get an application (amarok specifically) to launch automatically as soon as a user logs in?
[07:42] <ArrenLex> keltorsori: have you tried switching over to the error log terminal and seeing what it tells you?
[07:43] <ArrenLex> ihateripe: KDE or GNOME?
[07:43] <ihatetripe> xfce :)
[07:43] <ArrenLex> Oh. xD
[07:43] <ArrenLex> Crap.
[07:43] <ArrenLex> Google for "application auto-start xfce"
[07:43] <wendell> ArrenLex: Its very cool!
[07:43] <ihatetripe> Thanks ArrenLex
[07:43] <keltorsori> ArrenLex: Alt-4 basically gives that to me (it's around the xorg stuff)
[07:43] <reid> Does anyone know anything about 3D desktop? http://sourceforge.net/projects/desk3d
[07:44] <holycow> reid, depends, what do you want to know?
[07:44] <ArrenLex> keltorsori: can you try installing xorg manually?
[07:44] <holycow> !aiglx
[07:44] <ubotu> AIGLX ('Accelerated Indirect GLX') is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol.
[07:44] <reid> holycow I want to know if it is stable, and if not- is there anything else like it
[07:44] <Byan> ArrenLex: alright, it's plugged in
[07:44] <holycow> not stable, don't bother
[07:45] <holycow> just use plain jane gnome with regular nvidia/ati drivers
[07:45] <holycow> !ati
[07:45] <holycow> !nvidia
[07:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:45] <Byan> and sane-utils is installing
[07:45] <Byan> and is now done
[07:45] <ArrenLex> Byan: good to hear. Summary: make sure you have all of these: "cupsys-bsd cupsys hplip sane-utils sane" packages installed.
[07:45] <reid> cool- thanks holycow
[07:45] <holycow> np
[07:46] <ArrenLex> No, wait, you don't need sane.
[07:46] <Byan> >_<
[07:46] <Search4Lancer> has anyone here tried upgrading to Firefox 2.0 yet?
[07:46] <ArrenLex> Wait.
[07:46] <ArrenLex> Did sane-utils automatically install sane?
[07:46] <Byan> no
[07:46] <ArrenLex> Then you don't need it.
[07:46] <holycow> Search4Lancer, whats to upgrade
[07:46] <ArrenLex> Sorry. I really should stop giving advice now.
[07:47] <holycow> Search4Lancer, download, extract, doubleclick on the binary
[07:47] <ArrenLex> Byan: turn the printer on.
[07:47] <Byan> ArrenLex: it's on
[07:47] <keltorsori> ArrenLex: considering it's a straight OS install, don't think so. It's a daily, so I'm not too worried, but as we're getting closer to the release, trying to hunt the bugs all i can
[07:47] <ArrenLex> Byan: paste the output of scanimage -L
[07:47] <Search4Lancer> holycow: if only it were that easy!
[07:47] <holycow> it is
[07:47] <holycow> whats the problem?
[07:48] <Byan> No scanners identified and then a bunch of text telling me what to do if I didn't expect that
[07:48] <ArrenLex> ...odd.
[07:48] <Sir_Brizz> Does anyone have any spare official Warty CDs?
[07:48] <Search4Lancer> holycow: ./firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libmozjs.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:48] <holycow> make sure that is installed, search for it
[07:48] <ArrenLex> Search4: you don't launch firefox-bin directly. The command you're looking for is ./firefox
[07:48] <Byan>   # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be supported by
[07:48] <Byan>   # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage.
[07:49] <Byan> thats the output of sane-find-scanner
[07:49] <ArrenLex> Byan: hold on, I'm looking. What's the model again?
[07:49] <Byan> 4315
[07:49] <Search4Lancer> ArrenLex: bashing firefox gives me: (firefox-bin:17042): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[07:50] <Search4Lancer> how it knows my ZIP code I have no idea :-D
[07:51] <tom{}bigTC> when you use add/remove problems where does it save the stuff it download, because I used it to get frozen-bubble and I missed up the opitions so I want to be able to start over with it
[07:51] <ArrenLex> Byan: oh wow.  You're going to have to upgrade hplip.
[07:51] <Byan> upgrade from the one on the universe?
[07:51] <ArrenLex> Byan: Nono. That one is even older.
[07:52] <Byan> erm, I said that wrong...
[07:52] <Byan> ArrenLex: how do I figure out which version I have?>
[07:52] <ArrenLex> Byan: you need 0.9.11 at least to run your printer. The one in ubuntu's repos is 0.9.7
[07:53] <Byan> ArrenLex: alright, you gonna guide me? or should I just go on my own on installing that?
[07:53] <ArrenLex> Byan: if it's a server, are you sure you can't run debian testing? It's a lot more up to date than ubuntu, I find.
[07:53] <ArrenLex> Although I'm going to get stoned to death for that.
[07:54] <ArrenLex> Byan: let me consider the best way to get you set.
[07:55] <ArrenLex> Byan: sorry for all the misleading instructions up there.
[07:55] <Byan> lol, don't worry about it
[07:56] <Byan> ArrenLex: should I install 1.6.9 or should I keep to the .9.11?
[07:56] <CorpseFeeder> ok I am thouroughly confused by the man pages for mplayer. I think video capture using mplayer has something to do with mplay -tv something blah blah... but It's a bit beyond me.
[07:56] <eclipse75> got an issue with creox
[07:57] <ArrenLex> Byan: hold on, let me figure things out.
[07:57] <Byan> ok =/
[07:57] <eclipse75> i plugged my guitar into the mic input, yet cant figure out why creox isnt picking it up? or will it even pick up mic input?
[07:57] <Nihil1985> hi
[07:58] <ArrenLex> Byan: okay, you should use this console-based installer: http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/hplip/hplip-1.6.9.run
[07:58] <Nihil1985> how can i write in fstab a  samba shared folder?
[07:58] <ArrenLex> Byan: go to a shell and use wget to get that on your no-gui box.
[07:58] <ArrenLex> Byan: then run it. It should set you up. Remember to remove hplip from ubuntu first.
[07:58] <Byan> ArrenLex: yeah, alright, you sure I want 1.6.9?
[07:59] <Byan> is there a reason the distro's are still using .9.x?
[07:59] <ArrenLex> Byan: my math is rusty but, to me, 1.6.9 >= 0.9.11, so you should be good.
[07:59] <thoreauputic> ArrenLex: would it not be easier all round to do " sudo adduser cupsys shadow" then access the box at http://hostname:631 to set up cups?
[07:59] <ArrenLex> Byan: they're just old packages. Debian testing and unstable has 1.6.9, as does ubuntu edgy.
[07:59] <Byan> ArrenLex: kk
[07:59] <ArrenLex> thoreauputic: not without the driver he needs to print.
[08:00] <thoreauputic> ArrenLex: how are you so sure he doesn't have the driver ? Most are installed by default
[08:00] <ArrenLex> thoreauputic: the HP scanning and printing driver is hplip. His printer requires hplip 0.9.11 or greater. The one in dapper is 0.9.7. Thus, he needs to manually get a newer version.
[08:01] <thoreauputic> ArrenLex: ah OK - missed that bit :)
[08:02] <Byan> ArrenLex: you sure I only need that file?
[08:02] <Byan> it's rather small...
[08:02] <ArrenLex> Byan: 9.5 MB is small?
[08:03] <Byan> O_o
[08:03] <Byan> I think it may have downloaded html.., bleh
[08:03] <Nihil1985> how can i write a samba shared folder in fstab after i mounted it??
[08:03] <ArrenLex> Byan: I gave you the link right to the file =P
[08:03] <ArrenLex> http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/hplip/hplip-1.6.9.run
[08:03] <MyGhetek> how do i give a user full read/write access to a directory in command prompt?
[08:04] <flannel> MyGhetek: which directory?
[08:04] <shriphani> MyGhetek, chmod u+x dir
[08:04] <flannel> shriphani: no, that's wrong.
[08:04] <shriphani> :(
[08:04] <Byan> ArrenLex: well, if I would've downloaded it off of umn, it would've been done in 2 seconds, cause I am connected by i2 to them
[08:04] <MyGhetek> flannel: /var/www
[08:04] <ArrenLex> Oh. Go ahead.
[08:05] <ArrenLex> I just use that mirror because it works for me. YMMV.
[08:05] <flannel> MyGhetek: which user?  Probably you'd want to add them to www-data group
[08:05] <MyGhetek> the user is called ghetek
[08:05] <Byan> how do I make in executable again >_<
[08:05] <flannel> MyGhetek: as a rule of thumb, chmodding or chowning a directory isn't the correct way to resolve permission issues
[08:05] <ozzloy> how do i make gvim update the paste buffer when i highlight text with the mouse??
[08:06] <MyGhetek> flannel: i already ran sudo chmod u+r /var/www
[08:06] <MyGhetek> flannel: how do i undo that then?
[08:07] <flannel> MyGhetek: actually, that shouldn't have done anything, since everything in there is readable by default
[08:07] <flannel> MyGhetek: so, you needn't undo it ;)
[08:07] <MyGhetek> ah!
[08:07] <Nihil1985> how can i write a samba shared folder in fstab after i mounted it??
[08:07] <MyGhetek> but how do i add teh ghetek user to the www-data group?
[08:07] <acehigh> sup everyone
[08:07] <MyGhetek> btw flannel, you're awesome
[08:08] <flannel> MyGhetek: are you just copying something there?
[08:08] <Byan> ArrenLex: Would you like to install HPLIP (desktop/recommended) or HPIJS only (server/printing only)
[08:08] <Byan> will the latter be fine?
[08:08] <flannel> MyGhetek: or is this going to be a regular writing thing?
[08:08] <kmu> why does this work: sudo zcat /var/log/auth.log* | grep fail
[08:08] <phargle> pfft
[08:08] <Fke> hey, i have an .iso file right, and i copied it to my USB drive, how can i make it boot from it?
[08:08] <MyGhetek> yes, i already installed ftpd and im getting the following permission error in my ftp client "550 Can't create directory: Permission denied"
[08:08] <kmu> but sudo zcat /var/log/auth.log* | grep fail > asdf
[08:09] <flannel> MyGhetek: ah, ok.  So eyah,you need to add it to the group
[08:09] <kmu> gives me a zcat: /var/log/auth.log: not in gzip format error
[08:09] <ArrenLex> Byan: I thought you wanted to scan? Need hplip for that.
[08:09] <MyGhetek> flannel: so im guessing this will start with sudo...
[08:09] <Nihil1985> how can i write a samba shared folder in fstab after i mounted it??
[08:09] <acehigh> I'm a old debian user and was wondering if ubuntu had a testing version just debian does? if so what is a good location for documentation?
[08:10] <ArrenLex> acehigh: the current beta version is edgy. It's, if you will "testing".
[08:10] <Byan> warning: Missing REQUIRED dependency: python-devel (python-devel - Python development files)
[08:10] <Byan> heh
[08:10] <acehigh> ArrenLex: where is the source.list file located?
[08:10] <Byan> it only tells me one...
[08:10] <ArrenLex> Byan: apt-get install ptthon-dev
[08:10] <dibblego> acehigh, /etc/apt
[08:10] <ArrenLex> acehigh: same place. /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:10] <ArrenLex> python-dev
[08:10] <ArrenLex> (@byan)
[08:10] <acehigh> cool thanks :)
[08:11] <acehigh> it use to be under /etc is why i was wonderin :P
[08:11] <guest132> can someone please help me install the GoogleEarthLinux.bin file that's on my desktop?(newbie)
[08:11] <Byan> oh..
[08:11] <Byan> yay
[08:11] <ArrenLex> acehigh: it was never under /etc. I've used debian since woody and ubuntu since hoary.
[08:11] <Byan> The following packages have unmet dependencies: python-dev: Depends: python2.4-dev (>= 2.4.2) but it is not going to be installed
[08:11] <Byan> E: Broken packages
[08:12] <ArrenLex> And what happens if you try to apt-get install python2.4-dev?
[08:12] <Byan> The following packages have unmet dependencies: python2.4-dev: Depends: python2.4 (= 2.4.3-0ubuntu4) but 2.4.3-0ubuntu6 is to be installed
[08:12] <Byan> E: Broken packages
[08:12] <ArrenLex> Oh god.
[08:12] <eclipse75> what audio driver is ubuntu using? alsa?
[08:12] <ArrenLex> Eclipse, yes.
[08:12] <acehigh> ArrenLex: so replace dapper with edgy?
[08:12] <eclipse75> k thanks =)
[08:12] <ArrenLex> acehigh: if you want the beta release, yeah.
[08:12] <acehigh> cool
[08:13] <ArrenLex> Byan: you don't have edgy in your sources.list, do you? That would be a problem.
[08:13] <Byan> uhm.. no..
[08:14] <ArrenLex> Byan: have you run apt-get update recently?
[08:14] <Byan> yeah
[08:14] <Nihil1985> how can i write a samba shared folder in fstab after i mounted it?? i want to make it start with the pc
[08:14] <Byan> depends on how recently is recently..
[08:14] <ArrenLex> Byan: run apt-get update
[08:14] <Byan> ArrenLex: fixed it
[08:15] <ArrenLex> Nihil: why don't you just google "mount samba fstab"
[08:15] <flannel> MyGhetek: sorry.  sudo useradd -G www-data ghetek should do it
[08:15] <Byan> warning: Missing REQUIRED dependency: libusb (libusb - USB library)
[08:15] <Fke> hey, i have an .iso file right, and i copied it to my USB drive, how can i make the file (.iso) boot from it?
[08:16] <ArrenLex> Byan: apt-get install libusb-0.1-4
[08:16] <MyGhetek> useradd: user ghetek exists
[08:16] <Byan> ...
[08:16] <Byan> libusb-0.1-4 is already the newest version.
[08:16] <MyGhetek> flannel: useradd: user ghetek exists
[08:16] <flannel> MyGhetek: oh, sorry. usermod not useradd
[08:17] <ArrenLex> ...that doesn't make any sense.
[08:17] <ArrenLex> What about libusb-dev?
[08:17] <acehigh> hrm interesting
[08:17] <acehigh> su aint the same
[08:17] <Byan> warning: Missing REQUIRED dependency: lsb (LSB - Linux Standard Base support)
[08:18] <ArrenLex> This sucks. xD
[08:18] <Byan> install lsb-base?
[08:18] <ArrenLex> I guess so.
[08:18] <ArrenLex> Yeah.
[08:18] <Byan> already installed >_<
[08:18] <ArrenLex> Byan: how about the lsb package?
[08:18] <Byan> ArrenLex: oh, ok
[08:18] <acehigh> ArrenLex: dumb question but root use to be su and the docs say sudo -i but it aint root least as far as true root?
[08:19] <guest132> what are the commands to install  bin file?
[08:19] <XiXaQ> guest132, sudo ./install-file.bin ?
[08:19] <ArrenLex> acehigh: sudo is safer than su. If you absolutely must have your su, do "sudo passwd root" and set yourself a root password. Then you can use su. But sudo will give the same functionality.
[08:19] <thoreauputic> !root
[08:19] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[08:19] <guest132> thanks
[08:19] <wabbit> Could someone point me to some documentation on how one could configure the microphone. I would really like to start using skype :-)
[08:19] <Byan> my god.. it should just tell me all the ones it needs >_<
[08:20] <acehigh> ArrenLex: true i understand how sudo works but shouldn't sudo -i be true root?
[08:20] <ArrenLex> Byan: yeah, eh?
[08:20] <catalytic> is the desktop supposed to just flicker every now and then
[08:20] <catalytic> not as in corrupted vid card stuff
[08:20] <catalytic> like if u have firefox download window open
[08:20] <catalytic> and its getting updated every now and then
[08:20] <ozzloy> failing getting the paste buffer to update via mouse highlighting, how do i update it with keystrokes?
[08:20] <ArrenLex> acehigh: I guess so? I'm not familiar with it.
[08:20] <thoreauputic> acehigh:  sudo -i is a true root shell
[08:20] <catalytic> but ubunutu seems to redraw all the desktop icons as well
[08:21] <ArrenLex> catalytic: that's not normal.
[08:21] <catalytic> ok
[08:21] <acehigh> ArrenLex: thoreauputic: I can't save the sources.list file even under sudo -i
[08:21] <catalytic> im sick of trying to install the proper drivers for my computer
[08:21] <thoreauputic> acehigh: sure you can - how did you edit it?
[08:21] <catalytic> coz everytrime i do, it restarts
[08:21] <acehigh> vi
[08:21] <catalytic> and stops at the shell,
[08:22] <catalytic> then i run startX or X and it never boots back up
[08:22] <thoreauputic> acehigh: just edit it with sudo or gksudo <editor of choice>
[08:22] <catalytic> and then I cant revert back to the original drivers
[08:22] <catalytic> and i have to keep reinstalling
[08:22] <ArrenLex> catalytic: what error message does it give you? What drivers? What card?
[08:22] <acehigh> oh
[08:22] <catalytic> ati radeon 9550 on xubuntu
[08:22] <acehigh> dont i feel shilmish
[08:22] <ArrenLex> catalytic: trying to install fglrx?
[08:22] <catalytic> tried both the radeon
[08:22] <catalytic> and the
[08:22] <ArrenLex> !enter
[08:22] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[08:22] <catalytic> that one, the fglrx
[08:23] <ArrenLex> catalytic: what error did it give you when you tried installing fglrx?
[08:23] <Parisi> ati + beryl = nightmare
[08:23] <catalytic> something referring to cannot find default system fonts
[08:23] <catalytic> im using xubuntu, is that beryl parisi?
[08:23] <Parisi> XiXaQ, I sold my Radeon 9200SE and bought a FX 5700 just to solve that.
[08:24] <niles> hi
[08:24] <Parisi> Now it works as charm for the most part.
[08:24] <ArrenLex> !hi
[08:24] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[08:24] <catalytic> i dont have the exact error as i since reinstalled xubuntu over the ubuntu partition, and I am downloading the xubuntu alternate cd to try on an old laptop
[08:24] <niles> does ATI cards have a reputation for having the kernel panic ?
[08:24] <Parisi> catalytic, I do not know what xubuntu is.
[08:24] <wabbit> Could someone please point me to a good microphone configuration howto. :-)
[08:24] <ArrenLex> xubuntu = ubuntu - gnome + xfce
[08:25] <Parisi> ArrenLex, I see.
[08:25] <catalytic> I think i prefer xfce
[08:25] <Parisi> I like gnome's eye candy/.
[08:25] <ArrenLex> Eye candy = KDE
[08:25] <AWOSDev> Yay KDE!
[08:25] <ArrenLex> Indeed.
[08:25] <AWOSDev> What a great first message.
[08:25] <acehigh> ArrenLex: thoreauputic: thanks :)
[08:25] <Parisi> Kde eye candy?
[08:25] <Parisi> Wow.
[08:25] <ArrenLex> Hell yes.
[08:25] <thoreauputic> acehigh: no worries :)
[08:25] <AWOSDev> anyway
[08:26] <ArrenLex> You can't love KDE, for she is my wife.
[08:26] <ArrenLex> I will fight you for her honour.
[08:26] <acehigh> thoreauputic: im old school linux before all these changes
[08:26] <frogzoo> !fglrx > catalytic
[08:26] <MyGhetek> how do i add a directory to www-data?
[08:26] <niles> is xfce directed to the ultimiate n00b ?
[08:26] <acehigh> thoreauputic: ext2 days
[08:26] <catalytic> thast frog
[08:26] <niles> not that it's bad to be a n00b
[08:26] <thoreauputic> acehigh: :) well, sudo has been around for a *long* time actually
[08:26] <Parisi> KDE is too boring, reminds me of windows.
[08:26] <ArrenLex> niles, no, xfce is directed to low-end computers.
[08:26] <niles> ahh
[08:26] <catalytic> ill try, but im hesitant it will kill everything again
[08:26] <ArrenLex> Parisi: KDE is not boring!! It is infinitely configurable.
[08:27] <acehigh> thoreauputic: true I just always used su :P
[08:27] <frogzoo> catalytic: read that thoroughly, & you'll be right
[08:27] <thoreauputic> acehigh: :)
[08:27] <ArrenLex> White Sword? I've only played the N64 games and Wind Waker.
[08:27] <Parisi> ArrenLex, I like gnome themes :)
[08:27] <Byan> ArrenLex: oh... lol.. http://hplip.sourceforge.net/install/step2/ubuntu606.html
[08:27] <AWOSDev> ArrenLex, yes, the NES game.
[08:27] <ArrenLex> XD
[08:27] <ArrenLex> Yes, I think that would kind of have helped.
[08:27] <acehigh> Yahoo upgrade here we come
[08:28] <ArrenLex> But we got them all through trial and error anyway, didn't we?
[08:28] <catalytic> ok, thanks, this guide actually looks a lot more thorough than the otherse I have tried
[08:28] <AWOSDev> Anyway :)