[12:01] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, no output
[12:01] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: ``uname -r''
[12:01] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, sorry, wrong command line.
[12:01] <] GoldenDragon> hm... what file system should I install ubuntu in?
[12:02] <mcphail> ] GoldenDragon: ext3 would be simplest
[12:02] <naa> profitfs
[12:02] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, lsmod -> no output
[12:02] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, $ uname -r
[12:02] <fabiomazzarino> 2.6.12-10-k7
[12:02] <] GoldenDragon> =]
[12:02] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: ``lsb_release -r''
[12:02] <AxelH> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22278
[12:02] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: it is a matter of taste i will no argue over this... in the wiki you can find how to make kernel deb's if you prefer that way. Good Luck :)
[12:03] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, $ lsb_release -r
[12:03] <fabiomazzarino> Release:        6.06
[12:03] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: dpkg -l udev|grep ^ii|awk '{print $3}'
[12:03] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, $ dpkg -l udev|grep ^ii|awk '{print $3}'
[12:03] <fabiomazzarino> 079-0ubuntu34
[12:03] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: your problem is straightforward. Dapper's udev requires Dapper's kernel.
[12:03] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: you're currently running Breezy kernel.
[12:04] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, I've just ran the upgrade using Upgrade Manager.
[12:04] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, what i find there applies only to ubuntu kernels, not vanilla kernels
[12:04] <blakesmith> can someone tell me what bit encryption firefox is using with dapper?
[12:04] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: and you haven't rebooted.
[12:04] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, twice.
[12:04] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: and you chose the 2.6.15 kernel?
[12:05] <pip> I am installing Dapper ,when partition time ,how to part for /  ?
[12:05] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, hmmm... no 2.6.15 kernel avaiable at grub.
[12:05] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: then the dist-upgrade is incomplete.
[12:05] <afm\colo> pip: one size does not fit all
[12:05] <blakesmith> can someone tell me what bit encryption firefox is using with dapper?
[12:05] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, geez :(
[12:05] <afm\colo> i'd opt for AT LEAST 5gb
[12:05] <afm\colo> for /
[12:05] <afm\colo> with seperate /
[12:05] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: ``sudo apt-get install linux-k7''
[12:05] <afm\colo> /home
[12:05] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: you can make exactly the same with any sources you like...
[12:05] <rgg> #amsn is kinda empty,nobody's willing to help me,can i ask for help here?
[12:05] <pip> afm\colo, what do you mean ?
[12:06] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, I'm trying to run dist-upgrade again.
[12:06] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: i know people that likes to run gentoo kernels....
[12:06] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, not according to that website, it assumes i have a debian/ folder, and then gives me this roundabout way of making up a config file
[12:06] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: you also need the command I just gave you.
[12:06] <rgg> i mean,i'm running ubuntu.
[12:06] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, reboot now.
[12:06] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, then why don't i just run gentoo?
[12:06] <blakesmith> or can someone tell me which browser supports 128 bit encryption? i need it to pay my bills
[12:06] <pip> afm\colo, there always an errot window saying "can't build /dev/sad1"
[12:06] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, I'm trying your install too.
[12:07] <m4rk> how do i get ubuntu to serve up a webcam applet for my firewire dv camera?
[12:07] <crimsun> Alex: you typed the command incorrectly
[12:07] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, I hope to be back soon.
[12:07] <crimsun> argh
[12:07] <fabiomazzarino> reboot!!!
[12:07] <crimsun> Alex: sorry
[12:07] <tom4> !patience
[12:07] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[12:07] <crimsun> AxelH: you typed the command incorrectly
[12:08] <AxelH> Ah, what is it then? I'm quite unexperienced in Linux.
[12:08] <pip> afm\colo,*error
[12:08] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: the kerneles from kernel.org *do* have the debian/ folder....
[12:08] <crimsun> AxelH: it's ``cat /proc/asound/cards''
[12:08] <mondo> I just bought an external hdd and connected it via USB, but the device doesn't have an owner, all permissions are set to read only, and I can't change them. Help? :(
[12:09] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: instead of arguin with everything i say just go and try the instructions in the wiki with the vanilla kernel and come here if you have a *real* problem
[12:09] <] GoldenDragon> what is the purpose of a swap partition?
[12:09] <AxelH> Crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22279
[12:10] <crimsun> AxelH: good. Now pastebin ``amixer''
[12:10] <hyperstream> guys if i put a new sound blaster soundcard into my box, will it disable the onboard?
[12:10] <rshakin> is there any other repositories besides us.archive cause it's acting up
[12:10] <AxelH> Crimsun:
[12:10] <enyc> rshakin: you can change the 'us.' to another country-code ...
[12:10] <AxelH> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22280
[12:11] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, i have *real* problem with the instructions in the wiki
[12:11] <rshakin> enyc: how would i do that
[12:11] <afm\colo> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_memory @ ] GoldenDragon
[12:11] <rshakin> enyc: is there a us2
[12:11] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: being?? what comand fails? what is the error msg??
[12:11] <mondo> Could anyone help me change/fix the permissions on my external usb hdd?
[12:11] <hyperstream> any idea's?
[12:11] <] GoldenDragon> thx
[12:11] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: use a pastebin if the msgs are big
[12:11] <enyc> rshakin: erm.... id have lo look into ubuntu  mirrors
[12:11] <erUSUL> !paste > loupgaroublond
[12:12] <hyperstream> can alsa support two sound cards? one onbard and one pci ?   or one uses oss and one uses alsa?   (So i can use xmms on one) while i use the other for teamspeak while ingame ? )
[12:12] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, it's a sanity issue, if i want my custom config made up in menuconfig, i have to go this roundabout way to get it, which is a serious regression from debian
[12:12] <afm\colo> hyperstream: ALSA can support multiple cards
[12:12] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, I'm back
[12:13] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, uffortunately without sound.
[12:13] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: uname -r
[12:13] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, samething yet
[12:13] <crimsun> AxelH: try: amixer set 'External Amplifier' off
[12:13] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: "samething yet"?
[12:13] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, $ uname -r
[12:13] <fabiomazzarino> 2.6.12-10-k7
[12:13] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.15-26-k7
[12:13] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: i'm not sure what you mean (english is not my native tongue as you surely noticed) you have a custom .config that you want to use?
[12:14] <blakesmith> I am using Dapper and the FireFox in the repositories... I went to my bank's site to set up online banking and says that I do not have 128bit encryption and that it is required.... any ideas?
[12:14] <AxelH> Crimsun: Would it require a reboot after? If not, no result.
[12:14] <crimsun> AxelH: afterward, try: aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[12:14] <enyc> rshakin: the archive is in http://ubuntu.cs.utah.edu/ubuntu/dists/
[12:14] <AxelH> Nothing.
[12:14] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, for example, the debian way is: $ make-kpkg --append-to-version -gekke-1.0 --config menuconfig kernel_headers kernel_image
[12:15] <Michael> is ubuntu a version of debian?
[12:15] <Dj_K> who i do install video and sound codecs
[12:15] <crimsun> AxelH: now try: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 1 && aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[12:15] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, and for the record, i just checked, there is no 'debian/' folder in a stock vanilla kernel from kernel.org
[12:15] <blakesmith> Michaet, ubuntu is based on debian
[12:15] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22281
[12:15] <kamilCzauz> hey guys
[12:15] <Michael> is it very stable?
[12:15] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, pt-br here.
[12:16] <AxelH> Silence.
[12:16] <kamilCzauz> im having a problem with a ar5212 wireless card, and i had no luck on the forums
[12:16] <blakesmith> Michael, it has been for me in the year that I have used it
[12:16] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, so when i use the debian method, text flows past, i get menuconfig, i make up my config using this program, and then hit exit, then i wait a while, and come back, and i have two packages waiting for me
[12:16] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, Instalado -> Installed | Candidatos -> Candidates | Tabela de Verso -> Version Table
[12:16] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: post the output from ``sudo update-grub''
[12:16] <Michael> good to hear that
[12:16] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, using the method on the wiki, it assumes i already have my desired .config file, which i don't have
[12:16] <kamilCzauz> ath0      Failed to read scan data : Resource temporarily unavailable
[12:17] <blakesmith> I am using Dapper and the FireFox in the repositories... I went to my bank's site to set up online banking and says that I do not have 128bit encryption and that it is required.... any ideas?
[12:17] <kamilCzauz> anyone know why i would get that when i type iwlist ath0 scan?
[12:17] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22282
[12:18] <Exclamation> hi, how do i install the nvidia settings app?
[12:18] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: just run 'make menuconfig'
[12:18] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, that is a kludge, never mind, there is no 'debian/' folder
[12:18] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: better do a 'sudo apt-get install kernel-package' and do it the debian way
[12:18] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: it should be the top entry in your grub menu
[12:19] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, that's what i'm asking you how i can do that, because i just did, and i got an error
[12:19] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: 2.6.15-26-k7
[12:19] <rshakin> enyc: still getting alot of connection errors
[12:19] <richard> I just reported a Ubuntu bug if anyone is interested ... 64 bit version install
[12:19] <kamilCzauz> anyone know why i would get that when i type iwlist ath0 scan?   ath0      Failed to read scan data : Resource temporarily unavailable
[12:19] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, I'll try again.
[12:19] <rshakin> 1
[12:20] <pschulz01> Good morning.
[12:20] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, make-kpkg is *part* of kernel-package
[12:20] <pip> pschulz01, morning
[12:20] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, reboot
[12:20] <Michael> good afternoon
[12:20] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: what is the error msg?
[12:20] <crimsun> not only is it part of kernel-package, it essentially _is_ kernel-package.
[12:20] <loupgaroublond> erUSUL, may i PM you a two line quote?
[12:21] <blakesmith> I am using Dapper and the FireFox in the repositories... I went to my bank's site to set up online banking and says that I do not have 128bit encryption and that it is required.... any ideas? i REALLY need to get this working to pay some bills
[12:21] <erUSUL> loupgaroublond: go ahead
[12:21] <Exclamation> blakesmith: maybe use ie in wine...
[12:21] <kamilCzauz> anyone know why i would get that when i type iwlist ath0 scan?   ath0      Failed to read scan data : Resource temporarily unavailable
[12:22] <live> hello
[12:22] <spunk__> blakesmith: are you sure your bank accepts firefox, that is, have you used firefox for your banking before?
[12:22] <blakesmith> Exlam, do you think i would need the IE install AND the high encrpyt package?
[12:22] <chiefinnovator> Hi everybody
[12:22] <chiefinnovator> Thanks for using Ubuntu
[12:22] <blakesmith> spunk, i did a like 6 months ago and it was peachy
[12:22] <Michael> Hello
[12:22] <StoneNote> blakesmith, read this http://kb.mozillazine.org/128-bit_Encryption
[12:22] <spunk__> blakesmith: ok
[12:22] <chiefinnovator> Does anyone happen to know how bugs work in Ubuntu?
[12:22] <tuxtheslacker> hey, can someone point me in the direction of somewhere i could find out how to use john the ripper?
[12:22] <Exclamation> blakesmith: maybe, i dont use ie mayself but i know people that do
[12:23] <chiefinnovator> I just submitted my first bug
[12:23] <chiefinnovator> and I'm wondering what will happen to it
[12:23] <chiefinnovator> how does it get proccessed?
[12:23] <synic> blakesmith: it might dislike your user agent.  You can install an extension that will spoof it.
[12:23] <chiefinnovator> and it's a doozy, can't install Ubuntu
[12:23] <blakesmith> stone, i think we may be onto something
[12:23] <crimsun> AxelH: now try: amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 2 && aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[12:23] <chiefinnovator> But I'm curious if they'll fix it like tomorrow or if have to wait months
[12:23] <chiefinnovator> anyone know?
[12:23] <chiefinnovator> hello, anyone?
[12:24] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, stop with the enter keys you keep moving the goal posts
[12:24] <chiefinnovator> what do mean?
[12:24] <Madpilot> !enter
[12:24] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, I don't understand
[12:24] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[12:24] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, when you say can't install please tell us exactly what you are doing and seeing
[12:24] <tuxtheslacker> hey, can someone please tell me a room where they would know how to use john the ripper?
[12:24] <spunk__> does anyone know where/how gnome stores user settings? specifically, where does gnome-sound-properties store the settings?
[12:25] <Madpilot> must go - later, all
[12:25] <chiefinnovator> So you're saying I should type my whole story and then just submit once?
[12:25] <synic> spunk__: gconf most likely.
[12:25] <spunk__> synic: ok, thanks
[12:25] <synic> spunk__: gconf-editor
[12:25] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, yes, however for this about two lines is good
[12:25] <AxelH> amixer set 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA' 2 && aplay /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[12:25] <AxelH> err
[12:25] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, can't install because of my bug (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/58358)
[12:26] <AxelH>  -/usr/share/sounds/startup.wava: No such file or directory *
[12:26] <synic> chiefinnovator: how do you know that it's a bug and not pebkac?  It will probably take months if it's actually a bug.  You won't see the fix until the next release.
[12:26] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, lets have a look at that then :)
[12:26] <chiefinnovator> synic, what's a pebkac?
[12:26] <crimsun> AxelH: make sure you paste precisely what I typed
[12:26] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, #ubuntu-install /dev/sda
[12:26] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, it has solved the problem. ;)
[12:27] <AxelH> That gave me errors, complaining about non-existant files.
[12:27] <spunk__> synic: I previously had the problem that gnome spawned two esd:s. I disabled system sound in gnome and rebooted. when I logged in again, system sound was still enabled but only one esd was spawned. hence, problem fixed. Is it possible that gconf contained two entries?
[12:27] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: sound should work, then, after you're running 2.6.15
[12:27] <Michael> what is that
[12:27] <crimsun> AxelH: then you made another typo
[12:27] <synic> spunk__: dunno
[12:27] <spunk__> synic: ok
[12:27] <epton> hi. how can I run a command a startup under xubuntu?
[12:28] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, please check this page: wiki.ubuntu.com/BootOptions
[12:28] <fabiomazzarino> it's working now.
[12:28] <chiefinnovator> BTW I'm also frusterated that I can't link to bugs.  I go to a bug like this one, but if I bookmark its url I get error: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/57502
[12:28] <blakesmith> #user agent switcher craches my browser every time i switch
[12:28] <AxelH> Nevermind, I had a old string in it.
[12:28] <AxelH> Anyhow no result.
[12:28] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, now I'll wait until monday to see if fglrx is working.
[12:28] <AxelH> Want me to post a pastebin of it?
[12:28] <crimsun> AxelH: sure
[12:29] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, fireglecontrol is ok :)
[12:30] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, but fgl_glxgears doesn't
[12:30] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, what should I look at on this page?
[12:30] <AxelH> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22283
[12:30] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: I only look at alsa, sorry.
[12:30] <chiefinnovator> when will my bug get confirmed?
[12:30] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, no problem. I'm just chating now.
[12:30] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, some of those options, your bug can only be confirmed when someone with the same hardware has the same issue
[12:31] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, on monday I'll try xgl.
[12:31] <crimsun> AxelH: that doesn't show an error
[12:31] <synic> chiefinnovator: I doubt it will, unless you try those boot options on the wiki
[12:31] <fabiomazzarino> crimsun, thanks again.
[12:31] <crimsun> fabiomazzarino: np
[12:31] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, I think people have had the same issue
[12:31] <spunk__> When is the next version of Ubuntu coming?
[12:31] <AxelH> Never said it did either ;)
[12:31] <chiefinnovator> I linked to two bugs on that page with people having the same issue (I think)
[12:31] <OpeNZ> GoldenDragon: swap partition or file is an area where memory contents are dumped when the memory gets full - a bit like an overlow system
[12:31] <AxelH> But, didn't have any result with it.
[12:31] <fabiomazzarino> \quit thanks crimsun
[12:31] <i3d> how to change the default font color under console?
[12:31] <crimsun> AxelH: < AxelH> That gave me errors, complaining about non-existant files.
[12:32] <crimsun> AxelH: now use the value 3 instead of 2
[12:32] <AxelH> That was due to my own stupidity. Had an old string.
[12:32] <AxelH> Okay.
[12:32] <chiefinnovator> ompaul,  none of those boot options look applicable to me
[12:33] <AxelH> Nothing.
[12:33] <synic> chiefinnovator: try noapic nolapic
[12:33] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, biggest hitter is noapic nolapic
[12:33] <synic> try noacpi as well
[12:33] <crimsun> AxelH: ok, then you need to file a bug against linux-source-2.6.15
[12:33] <spunk__> How do I uninstall old kernels, and do I need to fix GRUB's menu manually afterwards?
[12:33] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, when done then you can say if they applied or not
[12:34] <crimsun> AxelH: include all the debugging info we've discussed (uname -r, /proc/asound/cards, amixer, etc.)
[12:34] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, I did hear that using a boot option called all-generic-ide might help
[12:34] <crimsun> AxelH: (and lspci -nv)
[12:34] <AxelH> Alright.
[12:34] <pip> where to fing unrar source package ?
[12:34] <tiede> hi all. Anyone knows the rationale for not being able to write to the folder "My Documents" from linux?
[12:34] <chiefinnovator> Has anyone heard of all generic ide boot option and how would I form it syntax wise?
[12:34] <pip> where to find unrar source package ?
[12:34] <erUSUL> !ntfs > tiede
[12:34] <pip> !unrar
[12:34] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:34] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, well stick it in as that on its own
[12:35] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, if it works please let us know
[12:35] <brooklyn> Can someone tell me, once a program is installed under... Say internet in the menu bar, how do i delete it from my system
[12:35] <pip> !info unrar-free
[12:35] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1-2 (dapper), package size 15 kB, installed size 84 kB
[12:35] <tiede> no. my fs is fat32 erUSUL
[12:35] <chiefinnovator> Ok, I'll go try those options.  And then I guess should I update my bug?
[12:35] <rgg> im having strange problems with amsn
[12:36] <chiefinnovator> BTW how do I know any Ubuntu officials have looked at my bug yet?
[12:36] <spunk__> brooklyn: uninstall the application with synaptic.
[12:36] <rgg> i open it and it runs normally until i sign on.after that,it runs really slowly and it's unusable
[12:37] <telematicas> mmm
[12:37] <rgg> strange,it's only on one account
[12:37] <brooklyn> spunk__: thanks.
[12:37] <kedar_> hey I have a quick question
[12:37] <tuxtux> notte @all
[12:37] <Jamminpotato> ok
[12:37] <Tehcarp> speak your call kedar_
[12:38] <kedar_> I'm trying to run a shell script
[12:38] <Jamminpotato> ok
[12:38] <tiede> I *can* edit other folders and have read/write access on them, except /My Documents, /My Pictures, /My Music and /My Videos
[12:38] <kedar_> but
[12:38] <] GoldenDragon> hmmm... when using the partitioner for installing ubuntu.... i'm at the screen to choose which is root, and which is swap.... i made a partition 500 mb large for my swap but it doesn't seem to appear.. am I doing something wrong?
[12:39] <TLE> Hey guys, I've got a question about a grub error code. Error 17 is mentioned several times in the forum and tells something about a wrong type of partition. But is tha partition it can't read the one the /boot/ dir is on or the ones the entries in the menu.lst points to?
[12:39] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, it is not how bugs get dealt with: please see here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HelpingWithBugs and here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs that will explain it in a lot more detail
[12:39] <rshakin> ok something is wrong check this log out and tell me what you think http://madwifi.org/paste/161
[12:39] <kedar_> well the shell script has been written
[12:39] <kedar_> to restart in wish
[12:39] <kedar_> but when I try to run it, it says line 3: exec: @@WISH@@: not found
[12:39] <synic> !enter > kedar_
[12:39] <tiede> I *can* edit other folders and have read/write access on them, except /My Documents, /My Pictures, /My Music and /My Videos. My Windows filesystem is FAT32. Anyone knows why I can't write to the said folders?
[12:39] <kamilCzauz> hello....... i am having problems with my wireless network... i just put in a mini pci wifi card and it cant find any networks.... its an atheros ar5212... any help?
[12:40] <kedar_> what do I do :-(
[12:40] <jrib> tiede: what permissions are they mounted with?
[12:40] <spunk__> tiede: Obvious Q, but: have you checked the access bits?
[12:41] <mutk> tiede, fat32 does not support the ugo/rwx scheme. You need to mount the filesystem with a umask to get the permissions right.
[12:41] <tiede> /dev/hda2       /media/hda2     vfat    defaults,utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       0, jrib
[12:41] <Tehcarp> How do I murder my sound in RO
[12:41] <DARKGuy> Greetings :) is there a way to start two windowed programs (xterm & gedit) using a bash script, but setting their window position and size in the script, so I don't have to resize and move them everytime?
[12:41] <chiefinnovator> I need a little help putting in these boot options, do I hit f6?  when I do that there's already a lot of junk there
[12:41] <mutk> tiede, Who's GID 46 ?
[12:41] <tiede> what is this access bits thing you are hinting at spunk__ ?
[12:41] <synic> chiefinnovator: just type it and press enter.
[12:41] <albacker> guys how do i know if i have drivers for my graphic card ? and acceleration enabled ? should i use any xserver-xorg- package ?
[12:42] <chiefinnovator> synic, what screen though?
[12:42] <spunk__> tiede; sorry, Im sleepy. :-) I mean the permissions.
[12:42] <DARKGuy> albacker: depends on your card's manufacturer
[12:42] <albacker> DARKGuy, as i can see from device manager i get this : 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller
[12:42] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, (A) it is not junk (B) the instructions at the top of the page suggest you add them to the end of the line (if I remember correctly)
[12:42] <tiede> I don't know. I don't remember seeing anythin like that. I just copied over the output from /etc/fstab... It was automatically by Ubuntu on my first install, mutk
[12:43] <rshakin> anyone can tell me whats going on with my update why it's not working
[12:43] <albacker> DARKGuy, it's intel corporaation.. its graphic card into mobo
[12:43] <] GoldenDragon> hmmm... when using the partitioner for installing ubuntu.... i'm at the screen to choose which is root, and which is swap.... i made a partition 500 mb large for my swap but it doesn't seem to appear.. am I doing something wrong?
[12:43] <TLE> DARKGuy: Some programs have a geometry switch that allows you to do just that
[12:43] <rshakin> and how do i fix it
[12:43] <spunk__> tiede: if you do "ls -ld My\ Documents", what do you get?
[12:43] <rshakin> here is the log http://madwifi.org/paste/161
[12:43] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, ok so I'll just type them at the end,
[12:44] <DARKGuy> albacker: ah, integrated intel video card...... I *think* Intel has some drivers, but I'm not very sure about it (I have one too, but since I bought my GeForce I haven't got a way to test it here :P)
[12:44] <mutk> tiede, Ok. Try this     defaults,utf8,umask=000,user,noauto
[12:44] <DARKGuy> TLE: Ah, but if the program doesn't has that functionality, I can't do anything about that right? :P
[12:44] <albacker> DARKGuy, i get this :
[12:44] <albacker> eni@madgeek:~$ lspci | grep Grap
[12:44] <albacker> 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[12:44] <kedar_> I need to run this shell script
[12:44] <tiede> dr-xr-x--- 8 root plugdev 16384 2006-08-04 02:40 My Documents, mutk
[12:44] <ompaul> !paste
[12:44] <albacker> does that compatible mean anything ?
[12:44] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:44] <RedRose> The Site Offers little help, so would anyone mind answering a few kernel compiling questions
[12:44] <kedar_> but on line 3 it uses exec @@WISH@@
[12:44] <fishy> How do you create gzipped tars via the command line?
[12:45] <mutk> tiede, Ok so the plugdev group can read and execute on it..
[12:45] <spunk__> tiede: there you go, no write permissions.
[12:45] <kedar_> and it gives me a not found error
[12:45] <RedRose> I'm just wondering how to compile it after i've used make menuconfig
[12:45] <DARKGuy> albacker: lemme check something on the net
[12:46] <kedar_> how does wish work?
[12:46] <albacker> DARKGuy, ok.
[12:47] <tiede> I tried defaults,utf8,umask=000,user,noauto but I still can write...
[12:47] <TLE> DARKGuy: Ohh, I think you can, there is a program called devilspie that allows you to make rules about placement and stuff like that, but I'm not sure if it would solve your problem, and also it is a little hard to configure, but you rad about and see if you can figure if it can solve your problem. What is it that you want to do anyway ?
[12:47] <DARKGuy> albacker: http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-010512.htm?iid=graphics+865main& <- that has some info about Intel drivers on Linux, might be useful?
[12:47] <tiede> (yes, I did umount and mount)
[12:47] <TLE> What about my grub question, anyone ?
[12:47] <tiede> how do I go about fixing that, spunk__
[12:47] <mutk> tiede, Add rw to the options maybe??
[12:47] <rshakin> this is starting to bother me really alot
[12:47] <fishy> Anyone know how to put a bunch of files in a gzipped tar file via the command line?
[12:48] <rshakin> it seems to me i cant install or download any updates and or packages
[12:48] <albacker> DARKGuy, apt-cache says this is for i865 too, and i have 82865G maybe i need this :  xserver-xorg-driver-i810 ? or no ?
[12:48] <rshakin> from all of the tools
[12:48] <mutk> tiede, Oh and the user that is mounting is the user you want read write access for?
[12:48] <sabrina81> is there something like Macromedia Dreamweaver for Linux?
[12:48] <medwards> I have a problem with gnome not starting. I've narrowed down the error but need advice on how to proceed..
[12:48] <TLE> fishy: tar -zxvf file.tar.gz files
[12:48] <DARKGuy> TLE: Cool, I'll check that, thansk :) - well  I'm trying to learn SDL, and since I prefer the command line, I like to compile with xterm, and edit with gedit, but I want to place the windows stretched full to the screen so :P
[12:48] <TLE> fishy: I think
[12:49] <medwards> Here is my .xsession-error file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22284
[12:49] <tiede> I have to go. I will surely try rw later on. Yes. I am the only user on the computer (That is, the only human user, mutk .) I wish I had more time. If anything goes wrong I will retry again next time. bye. And thanks all.
[12:49] <RawSewage_> I need Edgy help, but theres no one at Ubuntu+1.   I upgraded, (using Kubuntu), and X wont start.  getting error  -bash: /dev/null: Permission denied
[12:49] <spunk__> tiede: mutk knows, I think he/she will answer it shortly
[12:49] <DARKGuy> albacker: you just reminded me something. If it says it's for that card, you can try. I never used the xorg drivers for intel other than the generic ones
[12:49] <] GoldenDragon> what filesystem should my swap partition be?
[12:49] <RawSewage_> what can I do
[12:49] <Gel> ] GoldenDragon: swap
[12:50] <word> Ok..so i have a problem where when i leave my computer on for about 2 days...things start getting funky memory fills up etc. lots of seek errors (87% sure not an hd problem but the seek errors were pretty much present with X..if you'd like to help with those as well feel free ><) ) then when i restart Xgl doesn't start up..I got the output from dmesg after having it on for a couple days - http://pastebin.ca/156686 and after it fails to start up -
[12:50] <word> lized on this occurance of the problem..that by doing /etc/init.d/kdm restart xgl starts up fine now i would think this is kdm's fault or something but this never happened with X...any ideas?
[12:50] <] GoldenDragon> O_o
[12:50] <albacker> DARKGuy, after installing that one, should i reboot, and it applies ? im sorry but i'm not very informed here.. :( and is xfree better than xorg or not ?
[12:50] <tuxtheslacker> hey. can someone in here tell me a security room?
[12:50] <sabrina81> is there something like Macromedia Dreamweaver for Linux?
[12:50] <sethk> albacker, xorg was developed from an earlier version of xfree
[12:51] <DARKGuy> yup
[12:51] <tuxtheslacker> I need to find someone that knows how to use john the ripper as a brute force attack on ssh for a demonstration
[12:51] <sethk> albacker, I think xorg probably supports more hardware
[12:51] <DARKGuy> I think it's better than XFree
[12:51] <albacker> ok, thanks DARKGuy, thank you too sethk.
[12:51] <medwards> GNOME NOT STARTING, please help (/msg welcome): .xsession-error file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22284
[12:52] <albacker> DARKGuy, xserver-xorg-driver-i810 is already the newest version. :S i think i have that.. anything else to do to improve anything ?
[12:52] <DARKGuy> albacker: oh and in answer, rebooting would be ideal, but killing the X server (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace) or restarting GDM (sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart) should do the trick. However I can't guarantee if you'll be back to X or ntt
[12:52] <DARKGuy> *not
[12:52] <DARKGuy> albacker: oh you already have it, then it's alright. You could -try- checking if you have some acceleration or not running glxgears
[12:53] <] GoldenDragon> I made a partition filesystem linux-swap size 574 MB, using the partitioner thats used in the installation, after the partitioner there is a screen which asks you to desginate which partition is for root and which is for swap, I can't choose the partion with 574MB as my swap partition because its not seen in the drop menu
[12:53] <spunk__> I I want to get rid of old Kernels, is it just a matter of uninstalling them in synaptic. For example, linux-image2-6-15-21-386?
[12:53] <DARKGuy> albacker: else I guess you'll have to ask someone else or search the net how to activate GLX and/or DRI in your Intel chipset
[12:53] <albacker> DARKGuy, i can run glxgears, but how do i know if i do or dont have acceleration ?
[12:53] <sabrina81> is there something like Macromedia Dreamweaver for Linux?
[12:53] <rubyphyte> what is the best way to have something run as sudo at startup (or every once in a while)
[12:53] <chiefinnovator> These boot options suck.  I have no idea if I'm typing them right. For example I used as an option: Thissurelyisnotanopiton and it didn't complain.  There's got to be a place online to learn how to use boot options.
[12:53] <KwitcherBitchen> albacker, if you can run it you have it
[12:53] <KwitcherBitchen> :-)
[12:53] <DARKGuy> albacker: KwitcherBitchen is right :P
[12:54] <rubyphyte> I would like to run a dns update script I wrote
[12:54] <DARKGuy> sabrina81: you can use NVU
[12:54] <albacker> DARKGuy, and what is GLX/DRI needed ?
[12:54] <medwards> rubyphyte: /etc/crontab
[12:54] <DARKGuy> sabrina81: and SCREEM
[12:54] <chiefinnovator> This page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions almost helps but perhaps it was designed for an earlier ubuntu since it says to type linux before the option?
[12:54] <sabrina81> DARKGuy: I said "something like dreamwaver" :)
[12:54] <medwards> rubyphyte: see here for how to add to this file http://www.adminschoice.com/docs/crontab.htm
[12:54] <] GoldenDragon> I made a partition filesystem linux-swap size 574 MB, using the partitioner thats used in the installation, after the partitioner there is a screen which asks you to desginate which partition is for root and which is for swap, I can't choose the partion with 574MB as my swap partition because its not seen in the drop menu
[12:54] <DARKGuy> sabrina81: well, NVU looks like dreamweaver :P
[12:55] <albacker> sabrina81, dreamweaver using wine/cedega/vmware
[12:55] <chiefinnovator> Ok, let's try this.  Has anyone here ever sucessfully used a boot option in Ubuntu Dapper?
[12:55] <medwards> GNOME NOT STARTING, please help (/msg welcome): .xsession-error file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22284
[12:55] <DARKGuy> albacker: well it helps a lot for games
[12:55] <searayman> need help witch edgy knot 2
[12:55] <DARKGuy> albacker: it's like hardware acceleration in windows, but for Linux
[12:55] <albacker> DARKGuy, i wanted to try, XGL, might it help ?
[12:55] <sabrina81> DARKGuy: "screem" what is?
[12:55] <DARKGuy> sabrina81: another HTML/web/dreamweaver-like editor :P
[12:55] <DARKGuy> albacker: nope, that's an OpenGL-powered X
[12:56] <spunk__> I I want to get rid of old Kernels, is it just a matter of uninstalling them in synaptic. For example, linux-image2-6-15-21-386?
[12:56] <sabrina81> take a look
[12:56] <searayman> anyboddy know anythign about edgy knot 2?
[12:56] <DARKGuy> albacker: and it requires a very good 3D card.   If I ever figure out "boot options" I'm going to document it on the internet for everyone to see!
[12:56] <albacker> DARKGuy, i can run it, but sloow , might i need this xserver-xorg-air-core - X server with accelerated indirect 3D support
[12:56] <rubyphyte> medwards: but does that run it as sudo?  Can I just put an executable script in the /etc/cron.hourly/ to have it be executed once an hour
[12:57] <chiefinnovator> and what's the deal with IRC?  How can 30 people have 30 conversations at once?
[12:57] <] GoldenDragon> I made a partition filesystem linux-swap size 574 MB, using the partitioner thats used in the installation, after the partitioner there is a screen which asks you to desginate which partition is for root and which is for swap, I can't choose the partion with 574MB as my swap partition because its not seen in the drop menu
[12:57] <medwards> rubyphyte: yes
[12:57] <JKirk_> I'm wondering if anyone can help me... I've been tyring to get my wireless card working on boot up.  I use WPA-PSK and I can get it working from the terminal window, but I can't seem to figure out how to make it boot up with it so I don't have to do that... Is there some way to run wpa_supplicant as root during boot?
[12:57] <medwards> rubyphyte: all cron jobs are run as root (which is what running something as sudo does)
[12:57] <searayman> edgy knot2?????????????????????????/
[12:57] <rubyphyte> oh ok
[12:57] <medwards> god it's busy in here..
[12:57] <rubyphyte> medwards: so just drop the script in the cron.hourly dir and it should be fine
[12:57] <searayman> i found a bug in edgy knot 2
[12:57] <medwards> yuppers
[12:58] <skarface> congratulations
[12:58] <medwards> make sure you can execute it and you'll be fine
[12:58] <medwards> (ie ./scriptname)
[12:58] <DARKGuy> albacker: whoah, never heard of that one. If you have quite experience handling yourself in the terminal and know some shell commands you can try that, and if it doesn't works remove it and put your normal xorg. I've never messed with those, only long time ago, and that was the kind of solution that worked
[12:58] <void^> JKirk_: zless /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz
[12:58] <ompaul> searayman, so that is what launchpad is for
[12:58] <spunk__> I I want to get rid of old Kernels, is it just a matter of uninstalling them in synaptic. For example, linux-image2-6-15-21-386?
[12:58] <DARKGuy> albacker: something is sure: using glxgears is proof that you have acceleration in X
[12:59] <searayman> ompaul:  last time i posted a bug there eveyone ignored it
[12:59] <albacker> DARKGuy, thanks for answering my questions.
[12:59] <rubyphyte> medwards: beautiful! thanks!
[12:59] <DARKGuy> albacker: you're welcome, I'm no expert but I tried my best ^^
[12:59] <Thomas3> wireless problem: I use iwconfig to set essid, ap, wep and the channel; dhclient3 doesn't get me an IP; works perfect in XP; same config works perfect on other networks; what can I look at? it's just that it doesn't get an IP
[12:59] <searayman> ompaul: and i posted it there already, coudl u take a look at it?
[12:59] <] GoldenDragon> I made a partition, linux-swap filesystem, size 574 MB, using the partitioner thats used in the installation, after the partitioner there is a screen which asks you to desginate which partition is for root and which is for swap, I can't choose the partion with 574MB as my swap partition because its not seen in the drop menu
[12:59] <ompaul> searayman, talk in #ubuntu-bugs
[01:00] <medwards> rubyphyte: All I ask in exchange is that you help me get support for my problem ;P (j/k)
[01:00] <Rug> Howdy all
[01:00] <medwards> GNOME NOT STARTING, please help (/msg welcome): .xsession-error file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22284
[01:00] <Mikey> Can anyone recommend a flash player? Not a plugin for mozilla or anything, but something to run them on the desktop.
[01:00] <jvai> hey peepz
[01:00] <brooklyn> hello
[01:00] <s0n1> hi
[01:00] <Thomas3> medwards: I have that EVERYTIME I do not force fsck on restart; I asked around, no answer
[01:01] <s0n1> i dist-upgrade in my ubuntu for edgy and my xorg sucks
[01:01] <s0n1> someone knows ?
[01:01] <rubyphyte> medwards: when did it break?
[01:01] <medwards> After a reboot yesterday
[01:01] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, first off by not using my name this channel did not highlight I am in several channels, I am going to look at the boot options page again (as I was its initial author but others have added stuff since then)
[01:01] <medwards> Machine had been running quite awhile prior but I haven't touched any Gnome or Xorg files in awhile.
[01:02] <rubyphyte> medwards: you didn't get that bad patch that went out a week or two ago did you?
[01:02] <Thomas3> for me, gnome doesn't restart unless I force a fsck on reboot; it loads but no desktop and menu
[01:02] <spunk__> I I want to get rid of old Kernels, is it just a matter of uninstalling them in synaptic. For example, linux-image2-6-15-21-386?
[01:02] <medwards> Thomas3: That's odd a filesystem error causes the script to break?
[01:02] <medwards> rubyphyte: It's very possible that I did
[01:02] <JKirk_> void^ you rock!!! thanks!
[01:02] <medwards> What package should I reinstall
[01:02] <JKirk_> I did a search on ubuntu and wpa and never found that info.... thanks again!
[01:02] <Thomas3> medwards: I'm not sure what is the reason, I don't really know where to look at either :) I can spend time, but I don't know where to start
[01:02] <s0n1> someone knows have problem in edgy and xorg ?
[01:03] <christopher> i need help with sound i was watching a video last night and  turned the audio  all the way down  with my  keyboard  audio down  botton now i can turn the sound  back on  sound works on the live  cd  just not my normal  instalation i used  volume control to turn it up  but no luck
[01:03] <christopher> can not
[01:03] <rubyphyte> medwards: have you tried update/upgrade?  I have no idea I hadn't upgraded while it was out, you should be able to google it, it got slashdotted and everything...I know there are instructions if that's the problem
[01:03] <Thomas3> I don't know also why I need the fsck, because if I don't force it, it doesn't run on reboot, so I guess the filesystem is clean; I'm really lost there
[01:03] <medwards> Thomas3: Sure, I'm going to see what this bad update was and if that fails I'll run fsck
[01:04] <[apoRt] > christopher, is the sound muted in alsamixer?
[01:04] <rubyphyte> medwards: good luck! I'm afraid I don't know anything else particularly useful
[01:04] <jvai> anybody noticedthat the ubuntu shutdown sound.. i s similar to the macintosh start up sound? pretty kool
[01:04] <Mikey> Has anyone had any experience with swf-playeR?
[01:04] <Mikey> *swf-player
[01:04] <AxelH> I have.
[01:04] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, sorry but you really need to read that thing again, what it is saying that it needs the name of a kernel at the beginning of a line (in ubuntu it is linux) it also says to tag the phrase at the end of the line - so you have to just open the line for editing and add the ones you think might help
[01:05] <christopher> sound isnt muted
[01:05] <] GoldenDragon> I made a partition, linux-swap filesystem, size 574 MB, using the partitioner thats used in the installation, after the partitioner there is a screen which asks you to desginate which partition is for root and which is for swap, I can't choose the partion with 574MB as my swap partition because its not seen in the drop menu I see hda1, which has my windows partition, hda2 which i hope to use as my ubuntu partition, and hda3
[01:05] <Mikey> AxelH, I installed it with synaptic, but what next? It didn't add it to my menu, and there doesn't seem to be a swf-player command?
[01:05] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, actually I will make it a lot more accurate
[01:05] <brooklyn> Is there any major difference in the gAim that comes with ubuntu, and gAim 2.0 beta3 available in automatix??
[01:05] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, Thanks.  I just found that page confusing
[01:06] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, just stick the "magic" words on the end of the line and reboot
[01:06] <Mikey> Bleh. AxelH nevermind, I mis-read the description.
[01:06] <edju> My cd drive will mount and read a cd and a dvd, but not a cd-r.  Is this a software or a hardware  problem?  Anyone?
[01:06] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, Since I ranted, I went ahead and "reverse engineering" how the boot options work
[01:06] <chiefinnovator> I can update that page now
[01:06] <afm\colo> edju: check `dmesg` for clues
[01:07] <chiefinnovator> turns out the space after the -- is significant
[01:07] <spunk__> I I want to get rid of old Kernels, is it just a matter of uninstalling them in synaptic. For example, linux-image2-6-15-21-386?
[01:07] <chiefinnovator> I found that to be a point of confusion since most command arguments go --somearg
[01:07] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, no read that
[01:07] <RedRose> !xgl
[01:07] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:07] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, read what?
[01:07] <ompaul> actually let me edit it again
[01:07] <[apoRt] > christopher, what sound card do you use?
[01:08] <christopher> es371
[01:08] <smax> hi gang
[01:08] <brooklyn> Is there any major difference in the gAim that comes with ubuntu, and gAim 2.0 beta3 available in automatix??
[01:08] <smax> whats a good application to burn iso files so that they are bootable?
[01:08] <edju> afm\colo, I have checked dmesg - a bunch of error msgs, like "isofs_fill_super: bread failed, dev=hdc, iso_blknum=16, block=16"
[01:08] <christopher> es1371 is my sound card
[01:08] <afm\colo> seems like the media is borked
[01:09] <[apoRt] > christopher, type lsmod | grep snd_ac97_codec
[01:09] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, I have finished my edits
[01:09] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, that kind of works but not quiet noob friendly.  Probably just tell them to type f6 and just type in their desired options
[01:09] <[apoRt] > that will check to see if your sound card's module is loaded
[01:09] <ompaul> hmm
[01:09] <mcphail> smax: nautilus, k3b, anything really
[01:09] <edju> afm\colo, by "media", you mean the cd itself?
[01:09] <afm\colo> yes
[01:09] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, Looking better.  How about getting rid of this line "When presented with the text on the screen "boot: "
[01:09] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, that is for installing - this is for a reboot
[01:09] <smax> if i right click> write to disk  to an iso file(linux cd),  will it be bootable?
[01:09] <afm\colo> but corporate media is borked, too, in general ;)
[01:09] <smax> im down to my last CD-R
[01:10] <edju> afm\colo, I doubt it - no cd-r will mount, they can't all be bad.
[01:10] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, reboot?  What do you mean?  I am installing
[01:10] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, rright I need to think about additional data in there
[01:10] <afm\colo> which program did you record them with?
[01:10] <mcphail> smax: if it is a bootable image then yes
[01:10] <edju> afm\colo, cdrecord, mostly.
[01:10] <afm\colo> hm i see
[01:10] <smax> great.  ubuntu is great
[01:10] <smax> my debian box is giving me crap
[01:10] <afm\colo> tried mounting with -t iso9660 specifially yet?
[01:10] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, your F6 is is install specific - however there is a use case where the install works but fails to reboot
[01:10] <mcphail> smax: you want an option saying something like "burn image" or "write image"
[01:11] <Byan> how do I know what the package name is for something I want to install?
[01:11] <smax> the button just says write
[01:11] <smax> but ok
[01:11] <edju> afm\colo, Some burned on a Mac.  Yes, i've tried -t iso9660.
[01:11] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, we need additional data, feel free to do the install part to preceed this
[01:11] <spunk__> I want to get rid of old Kernels, is it just a matter of uninstalling them in synaptic? For example, linux-image2-6-15-21-386?
[01:11] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, give me a minute to do a preamble
[01:11] <jrib> Byan: search for key terms using synaptic
[01:12] <Byan> how do I use synaptic...
[01:12] <christopher> working now wonder what went wrong  after i did that command it showed muted icon
[01:12] <Byan> I only have a console..
[01:12] <Flannel> Byan: use aptitude if you want a GUI
[01:12] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, BTW I tried all-generic-ide and it did give me a different error message than usual.  It said "busybox ..." and then "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off" and then gives me a command prompt
[01:12] <Flannel> Byan: or, apt-cache search
[01:12] <minerale> hi, could someone help me understand why my fonts are so big: http://img70.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshotxa1.png (look at the emacs menu)
[01:13] <minerale> I have tried preferences/fonts, albeit that has done little
[01:13] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, way beyond me talk to #ubuntu-bugs
[01:13] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, trying all of the other options didn't work, I'll update my bug with the info
[01:13] <pianoboy3333> Is there a way to access my tivo in linux?
[01:13] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, wow there's a bugs IRC room! sweet
[01:14] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, where is the preamble going?  That same page?
[01:14] <prophet5> 804 members
[01:14] <mikeconcepts> what is the abbreviation ack in IRC chat?
[01:14] <chiefinnovator> Offtopic: I haven't eaten anything today
[01:14] <edju> Is there a way to install (k)ubuntu w/o a cd or floppy?  Maybe from an empty partition?
[01:14] <Byan> Flannel: how do I use aptitude
[01:14] <Flannel> !tell edju about install
[01:15] <chiefinnovator> edju, try instlux  but it didn't work for me.  Has anyone else had succes with that?
[01:15] <Flannel> edju: that first link gives you a lot of methods, depending on what you have
[01:15] <chiefinnovator> !tell
[01:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:15] <Flannel> Byan: type "sudo aptitude"
[01:15] <marcelino> how to get mp3 to work with unbuntu?
[01:15] <Flannel> !tell marcelino about mp3
[01:15] <chiefinnovator> !tell chiefinnovator about install
[01:15] <chiefinnovator> Flannel, what does tell do?
[01:16] <Byan> Flannel: I'm in aptitude...
[01:16] <Mikey> !mp3 >> Mikey
[01:16] <chiefinnovator> !tell chiefinnovator about life
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 > - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <mutk> !help > mutk
[01:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:16] <Mikey> !mp3 > Mikey
[01:16] <Byan> can't figure out what I am doing though
[01:16] <jvai> lol
[01:16] <Flannel> chiefinnovator: !tell [person]  about [thing]  is the same as [thing]  > [person]   from ubotu.
[01:16] <chiefinnovator> Flannel, what is ubotu?
[01:16] <chiefinnovator> hmm, wait
[01:16] <Flannel> !tell chiefinnovator about ubotu
[01:16] <chiefinnovator> !tell chiefinnovator about ubotu
[01:16] <chiefinnovator> ha ha
[01:17] <Flannel> Byan: theres a menu bar across the top, you're trying to search for a package?
[01:17] <chiefinnovator> !tell chiefinnovator about boot options
[01:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about boot options - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:17] <Byan> yeah.., but how do I get to that menu bar...
[01:17] <gahan> is there a quick solution for adding an action 'Enqueue in XMMS (playlist)' for the RMB menu?
[01:17] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, what are you doing for the preamble?  I want to help
[01:17] <gahan> in gnome2 :)
[01:17] <Flannel> Byan: you hit f10 to get to the menu, it's the first thing on the line below that telling you what keys do what
[01:18] <Flannel> Byan: or, type ? to get help
[01:18] <] GoldenDragon> I made a partition, linux-swap filesystem, size 574 MB, using the partitioner thats used in the installation, after the partitioner there is a screen which asks you to desginate which partition is for root and which is for swap, I can't choose the partion with 574MB as my swap partition because its not seen in the drop menu I see hda1, which has my windows partition, hda2 which i hope to use as my ubuntu partition, and hda3
[01:18] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, I am working on it you can see it when I am done
[01:18] <wolki_> gahan: use nautilus-actions... or try open with -> custom xmms -e
[01:18] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, will it be on the same page?
[01:18] <Byan> how did I manage to do that
[01:19] <Byan> Flannel: ahh ok
[01:19] <omnid> !laptop
[01:19] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[01:20] <christopher> how do i set all volumes to default
[01:20] <] GoldenDragon> can someone help me partition my computer so that I can have 1 partition for windows, 1 for ubuntu(and for its swap) and 1 which I can share between ubuntu and windowsxp?
[01:20] <omnid> ] GoldenDragon I suggest making the 3rd partition FAT32
[01:21] <omnid> But other than that I don't know what to do step by step
[01:22] <Byan> well..
[01:22] <Byan> anyone recommend a ftpd?
[01:23] <chiefinnovator> !tell chiefinnovator about IRC
[01:23] <ompaul> chiefinnovator I am done with it, it is the same page
[01:24] <smax> nautilus says that my iso file is not a valid image, when it is.
[01:24] <smax> it's from the gentoo site
[01:24] <smax> http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml  the x86 button
[01:24] <smax> it's the only image for x86 therefor it has to be
[01:24] <ompaul> !enter
[01:24] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[01:25] <] GoldenDragon> can someone help me partition my computer so that I can have 1 partition for windows, 1 for ubuntu(and for its swap) and 1 which I can share between ubuntu and windowsxp?
[01:25] <chiefinnovator> ompaul, that's much better.  I took some pictures of the boot screen.  Is that worth adding?  Noobs like pictures
[01:25] <arthomps> dragon, need an fat32 partition.
[01:25] <smax> or you can just ditch windows all together and use linux
[01:25] <falco> whats an easy program i should use for software soundmixing?
[01:25] <] GoldenDragon> arthomps, yes i'm trying that..
[01:26] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, we don't tend to use the N word here, all users and in particular new ones are welcome :)
[01:26] <] GoldenDragon> so right now i have one ntfs(on windows) one ext3 which i plan to use for ubuntu, one linux-swap which i'm hoping to use for swap and 1 fat32... but
[01:26] <ompaul> chiefinnovator, if you think it works with it go for it
[01:26] <] GoldenDragon> whenever i try to select my swap partition, i don't find the linux-swap partition in the menu.
[01:27] <medwards> GNOME NOT STARTING, please help (/msg welcome): .xsession-error file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22284
[01:27] <] GoldenDragon> ?
[01:27] <falco> whats an easy program i should use for software soundmixing?
[01:27] <falco> hello?
[01:28] <christopher> audacity is a sound mixer
[01:28] <falco> i mean like dmix
[01:28] <alexkr> is there a certain manufacturer of laptops that people in the ubuntu community generally like the most?
[01:29] <jvai> ibm thinkpads..!!!
[01:29] <jvai> t models
[01:29] <windmill> anyone any good a setting up samba shares?
[01:29] <s0n1> what's i knows a edgy and xorg ?
[01:30] <alexkr>  yeah i had a thinkpad 10 years ago.. damn good laptop (i have an old ibook right now)
[01:31] <falco> omg hey shitheads
[01:31] <falco> listen to me
[01:31] <Jack_Sparrow> alexkr: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops
[01:31] <jvai> <-- thinkpad t40, ubuntu 5.04.. beauuutifuul
[01:31] <mindmedic> jvai: you speak for the community, right ^^
[01:31] <jvai> lol.. noo
[01:32] <jvai> uall r tooo bleeding edge for me
[01:32] <Jack_Sparrow> mindmedic: what was your question
[01:32] <mindmedic> alexkr: More generally I would say anything that is a Centrino will work quite well.
[01:33] <mindmedic> As the components (CPU, WLAN, Mobo) are well supported.
[01:34] <Jack_Sparrow> alexkr: That link has most of the information you would need to make an educated decision
[01:34] <Hit3k> When I start to play a movie in gxine no sound comes out its the same with all other movie players yet sound works fine on just music files
[01:34] <medwards> GNOME NOT STARTING, please help (/msg welcome): .xsession-error file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22284
[01:34] <pianoboy3333> Anyone know how I can access things on my tivo from my computer with ubuntu?
[01:34] <mindmedic> Hit3k: ake sure your video player uses "esd" output
[01:35] <Jack_Sparrow> pianoboy3333: Is your tivo hacked for access yet
[01:35] <pianoboy3333> Jack_Sparrow: I don't know... probably not
[01:35] <pianoboy3333> Jack_Sparrow: what kind of hacking does this require?
[01:35] <Hit3k> mindmedic, no... how can i set that up in totem?
[01:35] <Hit3k> I've decided to use that
[01:36] <Jack_Sparrow> pianoboy3333: Not a discussion of here, but let me find you a link...
[01:36] <stickystyle> I'm trying to give the epiphany browser a good try, but I am totally stuck on how i install userscripts (with the greasemonkey) extension, and how I setup the rules for the ad-block extension...Anybody know?  I'm pretty sure I have been through every menu.
[01:36] <Silverwizard> Hey, just got a new shiney, Laptop Intel Celeron Duo, which Ubuntu version should I download, I believe i386, but am I wrong?
[01:36] <rgg> my amsn definetely hates me
[01:36] <rgg> i have 2 accounts,but one is just for really close friends and i want to go on with the other to talk to some people
[01:37] <zax1> i intend to get an ssl cert for my site so i can secure certain part of my site. i am being asked by my hosting company do i want the ssl installed on the entire server or just the www. part of it.  i do not understandthe implicaitons, any suggestions ?
[01:37] <rgg> but it won't sign on,when i select it on the "profile selector" (sic) i receive a message that says that the account is being used in another AMSN session
[01:37] <rgg> BUT THERE IS NO OTHER AMSN SESSION AT ALL IN MY COMPUTER
[01:37] <Flannel> Silverwizard: right
[01:37] <Silverwizard> thanks alot
[01:37] <rgg> what the hell is going wrong?this thing is really getting on my nerves
[01:37] <mindmedic> Hit3k: totem uses the settings of "gstreamer-properties"
[01:38] <Silverwizard> Greasemonkey should autoinstall scripts if you simply go to them using the browser
[01:38] <mindmedic> launch "gstreamer-properties" and make sure it uses "esd" output
[01:38] <Flannel> rgg: sounds like the account is in use, are you logged on somewhere else?
[01:38] <Silverwizard> Anyway, need to get off this XP so I am gonna go get Ubunutu
[01:38] <jvai> msn did sumthyn phishy to the IM protocol
[01:38] <Robm05> I have a question..
[01:38] <rgg> Flannel: no,absolutely.i mean,i'm using Gaim now,but i receive the same message when it's closed
[01:39] <Hit3k> mindmedic, it had auto
[01:39] <Hit3k> thanks :)
[01:39] <stickystyle> Silverwizard: yeah, thats how firefox always did it and it though epiphany would also.  But it just sits there at the js code with no pop-up to install like firefox..
[01:39] <rgg> would i solve the problem if i deleted the profile and re-created it?
[01:39] <Flannel> rgg: no idea.  You might try checking out amsn's website, see if its a known problem or an issue with MS changing the protocols again, or whatnot
[01:39] <mindmedic> Hit3k: try "esd" and check if that works
[01:39] <songo> I've just burned a dvd-rw. how do I mount it?
[01:39] <Hit3k> mindmedic, i did and i clicked test and scared myself  :|
[01:39] <Flannel> Robm05: Just ask, there's no need to get permission to ask
[01:40] <jvai> look in the tmp folder, there should be an html file. linked to your *opened* hotmail account, aftr opening msn im on gaim :(
[01:40] <rgg> jvai: gonna try it
[01:40] <mindmedic> Hit3k: esd mixes audio from different applications into one stream which is send to the sound card. so many programs can use one sound card
[01:40] <habeeb> Greetings, I think that I lost my direct rendering the moment I upgraded to 2.6.17 kernel :/. Well, fglrxinfo is normal, but glxinfo | grep render, will show "Direct Rendering: No" . Some help would be more than appreciated ^^
[01:40] <Hit3k> mindmedic, it still doesnt work :/
[01:41] <mindmedic> Hit3k: what was so scary?
[01:41] <rgg> jvai: there isn't any html file
[01:41] <Hit3k> the beep
[01:41] <rgg> Flannel: let me try that
[01:41] <Hit3k> I forgot I had my sound all the way up
[01:41] <jvai> now close it
[01:41] <rgg> jvai: gaim?
[01:41] <Serendib> Im just starting with ubuntu and im trying to install the newest nvidia drivers... usually in SuSE i'd just init 3 and sh the .run file... how do I init 3 in ubuntu? Or is there some other way to install the drivers
[01:41] <jvai> no, just the msn im..log out
[01:41] <mindmedic> Hit3k: you said sound files work fine. which program do you use to play them=
[01:42] <ago> soundmachine
[01:42] <rgg> jvai: i'm not logged on (sic :P) anywhere
[01:43] <Solenoid> Hey, I had a question - I put my ubuntu install HD in with another motherboard, and tit stops loading at the kubuntu splash screen.  A ctrl-alt-del sends it to the proer shutdown though. anyone know whats going on?
[01:43] <jvai> i think my problem is i have mail notifications turned on on msn im.. is why thast happens
[01:43] <ardchoille> What command do I use to get a size of a directory? Not nterested in listing its files, just need to know how much disk space the dir is taking up.
[01:43] <Solenoid> du
[01:43] <zax1> is there any significant differance between kubuntu and ubuntu ? or is it just the desktop manager ? k Vs gnome ?
[01:43] <Solenoid> k vs. gnome
[01:43] <Flannel> Solenoid: you should turn off the splash image to figure out where it's having prblems
[01:44] <Hit3k> mindmedic, rhythm box
[01:44] <Flannel> zax1: no.  Just that.  They use the same repositories, etc (and you can have both installed)
[01:44] <Solenoid> Flannel: is there an easy way to do that?
[01:44] <ardchoille> Solenoid: Thank you :)
[01:44] <Solenoid> np
[01:44] <Jack_Sparrow> zax1: Just your choice of desktop
[01:44] <mindmedic> Hit3k: rhythmbox also uses the settings in gstreamer-preferences.
[01:44] <Flannel> Solenoid: at the grub menu, turn off quiet... and... hmm, something about a splash, if I remember correctly
[01:44] <habeeb> Ok I'll change the question. What do I need to remove so that I can follow the fglrx howto again, and get direct rendering? I have to remove and purge a package. For example in nvidia, I have to purge nvidia-kernel-common before reinstalling fglrx.
[01:44] <Solenoid> hehe
[01:45] <erdrick> how can you tell who is on the channel?
[01:45] <mindmedic> maybe the video you are trying to play uses an unsupported audio codec?
[01:45] <Solenoid>  ./names
[01:45] <Robm05> A few weeks ago I ordered my Ubuntu CD's, got them today.. But now I have to think if I want to put it on my laptop or not. I have a desktop right now running XP (it hosts my internet connection) and I have my laptop.. My laptop while running XP overheats and crashes quite often, while I'm not sure if running a version of Linux would keep -that- from happening, I can't decide if I want to actually install it. I have a Palm TX that I synch up with my
[01:45] <erdrick> ./names
[01:45] <Robm05> Woah.. Sorry about the length of that
[01:45] <habeeb> erdrick: Without the "."
[01:45] <erdrick> lol
[01:45] <erdrick> sorry
[01:45] <Jack_Sparrow> zax1: KDE is more XP like, that is better for some new converts to Linux, or gnome, which I prefer, it is a personal choice, run the live of each to get a feel for it
[01:45] <habeeb> :)
[01:45] <Hit3k> mindmedic, i have no clue then :/
[01:45] <jvai> ubuntu runs cooler, from my experiences
[01:46] <ubuntu> WTf
[01:46] <ubuntu> ok
[01:46] <ubuntu> ?
[01:46] <mindmedic> try the totem-xine package.
[01:46] <Jack_Sparrow> Robm05: My HP laptop was overheating and having problems until I installed Ubuntu
[01:46] <zax1> thanks jack,flanel
[01:46] <mindmedic> it uses the playback of the xine video player, which supports more formats than totem-gstreamer.
[01:47] <Robm05> Jack_Sparrow: But do you think I'll still be able to use my laptop for all my school stuff? I'm a nursing student and my only printer is a Lexmark :-/
[01:47] <erdrick> BlueEagle: hello
[01:47] <jvai> oo
[01:47] <coder2000> I am trying to add files to rythymbox but all the mp3's I try adding it says not a valid audio stream
[01:47] <rgg> oh god
[01:47] <rgg> amsn is a bitch
[01:47] <mindmedic> and if you install the w32codecs package you can even play odd stuff like real-video and quicktime...
[01:47] <Flannel> coder2000: have you added mp3 codecs yet?
[01:47] <Jack_Sparrow> Robm05: Look at the hardware support page for your printer, Cannon are a problem, some of the lexmark are also a problem, stable.. that is not a problem
[01:48] <rgg> all my fake profiles and profiles of other people that gave me their passwords for safety etc work
[01:48] <rgg> only my real profile won't log on
[01:48] <mindmedic> there is a script called "easyubuntu" to help you with getting proper media support.
[01:48] <Solenoid> Heres the error (after I log in command line, then startx): fatal server error: no screens found
[01:48] <Flannel> rgg: your account MUST be logged on elsewhere then
[01:48] <Solenoid> Porlly need to run the xconfig
[01:48] <Jack_Sparrow> mindmedic: Friends dont let friends try easyubuntu or automatix
[01:49] <rgg> Flannel: i'm going to manually delete the profile to see what's going on
[01:49] <rgg> i "backupped" (lol) all the important things
[01:49] <mindmedic> Jack_Sparrow: did I miss something the last weeks? are the scripts broken?
[01:49] <rgg> and i'm going for it
[01:49] <Flannel> rgg: backed up, and... it might not be amsn, that's an msn error, not necessarily an amsn specific one.  Could be other computers, could be... whatever else msn uses.
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> mindmedic: They have never been recomended here.. we see systems here every day that were broken by those scripts
[01:50] <rgg> might not be,but i'm going to try anyway
[01:50] <songo> which is the fs type to mount a dvd-rw?
[01:50] <rgg> i hope i dont lose anything important lol
[01:50] <Jack_Sparrow> mindmedic: They work 98% of the time...  Feeling lucky..
[01:50] <coder2000> Flannel: what package would I need for that?
[01:50] <Flannel> !tell coder2000 about mp3
[01:51] <Ych> hmmm, i closed an app, and my xgl crashed, or rather compiz i think... in any case i had no more window borders, I used metacity --replace to get the borders back, but they weren't the xgl skin borders, but rather the normal gnome skin... anyone know a way to get back the xgl?
[01:51] <mindmedic> Jack_Sparrow: I only used them for dvdcss and w32codecs, so I might have a better impression of them ^^
[01:51] <Flannel> Ych: #ubuntu-xgl
[01:51] <mindmedic> thanks for the warning
[01:51] <Ych> theres no one there, Flannel
[01:51] <Flannel> Ych: try #xgl then
[01:52] <mindmedic> but where should someone get the w32codecs then? marillat?
[01:52] <Ych> ok
[01:52] <Flannel> mindmedic: they're in the repositories
[01:52] <mindmedic> in multiverse?
[01:52] <Flannel> !info w32codecs
[01:52] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (dapper-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[01:52] <Jack_Sparrow> mindmedic: np, it is just more educational to teach people how to do things for themselves. Simple scripts for single items like diskmounter are not bad.. but people dont learn from them unless they read the commands used in them
[01:52] <Flannel> Ah, so, seveas repositories ;)
[01:54] <Naosz> hey guys my buddy is thinking about Linux/Ubuntu but has an ATI card (I'm Nvid) how hard is it to get the drivers installed for one?
[01:54] <creyon_> mindmedic: wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[01:54] <Solenoid> do any of you use VLC (video lan client)?  it has very good file support
[01:54] <mindmedic> Jack_Sparrow: I don't see a need for an average user understanding mounting and unmounting filesystems.
[01:54] <len> Hey, what's the command to format a usb disk?
[01:54] <Jack_Sparrow> mindmedic: Which is why I do recommend diskmounter script
[01:55] <Jack_Sparrow> mindmedic: but that is the only one I do recommend..
[01:55] <jvai> or.. go here http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/codecs.html , dl, then extract it in your home folder, aftr  using  easyubuntu, dl the essetial codecs for your system.. that worked for me
[01:55] <blaq> len: cfdisk will do the trick
[01:55] <blaq> you need to know what device your usb disk is though
[01:55] <blaq> probably /dev/sdaX
[01:55] <mindmedic> n8
[01:56] <morodock> I just installed ubuntu on a sony viao laptop and its working quite well. But I read somewhere that since this has a dual core cpu, I should've installed the 686 version. Can I upgrade to that? or do I need to do a full reinstall?
[01:56] <len> blaq: thx
[01:56] <blaq> that will alter the partition table, then you can create the fs via mkfs.<filesystem>
[01:56] <Flannel> morodock: yeah, just install the new kernel (you'll need to reboot for it to go into effect)
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> morodock: You can add the 686 kernel and be able to boot either
[01:56] <morodock> thx jack
[01:56] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[01:57] <mindmedic> morodock: Or you can install Gentoo 2006.1 and tune OpenOffice.org with --funroll-loops. Just kidding.. goood night.
[01:57] <len> blaq: it's saying that I dont have permition to write even with sudo
[01:58] <blaq> what are you typing in?
[01:58] <Jack_Sparrow> len: is it formatted ntfs now?
[01:58] <Robm05> Jack_Sparrow: I'm just not sure if I can do everything I need to do with ubuntu (or kubuntu, which I'm leaning towards more) I'd like to start trying to get a bit more into learning a programming language (C or C++, depending on my mood when I start).. As I said I'm a Nursing Student and I plan to use my laptop for school and my other side projects.. My main concern is my Palm pilot, but I have a two way switch on my two computers right now so if I
[01:59] <len> Jack_Sparrow: nah it's fat32
[01:59] <shakakai> <---big noob
[02:00] <coder2000> any idea how to get NetworkManager to detect when a wireless connection has been lost?
[02:00] <shakakai> whats the command to run a python script from the command line
[02:00] <prophet5> lol
[02:00] <prophet5> py
[02:00] <Guitarhero11> Im having problems with sound, i have tried various speakers and soundcards to the same effect.  i cant get sound to work in wolfenstein or my nes emulator
[02:00] <shakakai> yay
[02:00] <Guitarhero11> and sometimes my right speaker doesnt work
[02:00] <shakakai> :)
[02:01] <Guitarhero11> occassionally everything randomly works but then it all randomly stops working
[02:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Robm05: gnome pilot and read this link.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3591
[02:01] <coder2000> any idea how to get NetworkManager to detect when a wireless connection has been lost?
[02:02] <hdkiller> Guitarhero11, sudo apt-get install alsa-oss  # ?
[02:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Robm05: You may pm me to avoid long posts
[02:02] <Guitarhero11> I've done that
[02:02] <Guitarhero11> ill do it again to make sure hold on
[02:02] <prophet5> did you start oss
[02:02] <Guitarhero11> yep its installed
[02:02] <Guitarhero11> how
[02:03] <shakakai> anyone know how to run zope-kupu?
[02:03] <Guitarhero11> prophet5 how do i do that
[02:04] <Teller> Hi! I can't get my USB mouse to work on my touchpad equipped laptop.. When I move the mouse while I cat /dev/input/mouse0 I get output, so the kernel finds it alright.. More info on http://pastebin.ca/158173
[02:04] <matthewburke> is there a well know apt repo for swiftfox?
[02:05] <Jack_Sparrow> I really did not intend to hang out in here this afternoon, so when the wife shows up I will be gone..fast.. yes, I am wooped
[02:05] <hdkiller> Guitarhero11, lsmod | grep -c snd_pcm_oss
[02:05] <sris> Hi! Im installing ubuntu (and linux) for the first time. And i'm having som problem to get the partition utility to work. I've got an unformated/partitioned drive im telling the installation program that i want to create a swap partition and a partition for the system. Everything seems to work fine when the "changes are beeing made" but in the next screen of the setup, the partitions arent listed. when i click back to the partition page, both of them got an error in
[02:05] <prophet5> google is your friend : )
[02:05] <Guitarhero11> When I do that it says 4
[02:05] <Guitarhero11> does that mean anything
[02:06] <ubuntu> quick question i have a windows partion that has all my mp3s on it while in my linux partition is it possible to play these mp3s off the windows partition
[02:06] <Jack_Sparrow> sris: Are you telling the installer to use all unallocated space or are you trying to set them up manually.. (These are non-raid correct)
[02:07] <hdkiller> Guitarhero11, that's mean you have oss pcm in your kernel loaded as module
[02:07] <hdkiller> so that's fine
[02:07] <Abst> Where would I put a program to make it runnable by root (via sudo)
[02:07] <Abst> Its a bash program
[02:07] <Guitarhero11> hdkiller is that bad or good
[02:07] <Guitarhero11> that means it worked right
[02:07] <sris> Jack_Sparrow: im trying to do it manually, im making the swap 2gb and the other the rest of that drive.
[02:07] <sris> it's an IDE-disc, no raid.
[02:07] <Beast> quick question i have a windows partion that has all my mp3s on it while in my linux partition is it possible to play these mp3s off the windows partition
[02:08] <hdkiller> Guitarhero11,  sudo echo "et.x86 0 0 direct" > /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss
[02:08] <Teller> Beast: I was going to answer you, but given that I dislike repetetive people..
[02:08] <Guitarhero11> hdkiller: that returns this - bash: /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/oss: Permission denied
[02:08] <Beast> wow
[02:08] <Jack_Sparrow> sris: Please try to let it automagically set it up.. see if it goes through..
[02:08] <hdkiller> use sudo please
[02:09] <Guitarhero11> I did and it did not prompt me for the password
[02:09] <sris> Jack_Sparrow: ok i will, i was just afraid it might do something with my other drives ;)
[02:09] <Guitarhero11> ill sudo su first
[02:09] <Beast> sorry for trying to get my question out there
[02:09] <hdkiller> fine, try enemy territory then
[02:09] <sris> because i've got windows installed on the same machine and it got a lot of drives in it ;)
[02:09] <Guitarhero11> alright one second
[02:10] <Teller> Beast: Imagine if everyone did that
[02:10] <Beast> christ this is my first time using irc thanks mom
[02:10] <Guitarhero11> hdkiller: no luck, still no sound
[02:10] <Jack_Sparrow> sris: If you tell it to use unallocated space your other partitions should be just fine
[02:10] <Guitarhero11> do i need a restart for it to boot with alsa or something
[02:10] <hypatia> Beast: Is your windows partition NTFS or FAT32?   In either case the naswer is yes.
[02:10] <Teller> Beast: Even less reason to have an attitude then, just take the advice and don't repeat.
[02:11] <sris> Jack_Sparrow: nice, im going to give that a try, thanks for the help!
[02:11] <Beast> my partition is ntfs
[02:11] <songo> does anyone here use to mount a dvd-rw? can you post the line from /etc/fstab that concerns the dvd driver?
[02:11] <Guitarhero11> hdkiller should i try completely removing and reinstalling my sound drivers
[02:11] <songo> please?
[02:11] <Beast> so im guessing when using the live cd it won't work but if i install it i can listen to them
[02:11] <Guitarhero11> i mean sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils
[02:11] <hdkiller> Guitarhero11, no
[02:12] <hdkiller> do u need, gstreamer alsa plugin too
[02:12] <hdkiller> for proper desktop integration imho. but et should work with oss emu
[02:13] <Guitarhero11> i have gstreamer installed i believe
[02:13] <TeePOG> morning
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Beast: What are you trying to do.. read NTFS..?
[02:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Beast: Not advised to write to them..
[02:14] <prophet5> sudo modprobe snd-pcm-oss
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs > beast
[02:14] <prophet5> maybe
[02:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !ntfs
[02:14] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[02:14] <TeePOG> could anyone enlighten me...? I need to find out why wget is not using my proxy, even though every other program i have tried, does find and use the proxy correctly?
[02:15] <songo> TeePOG every other programs from command line?
[02:16] <Teller> TeePOG: Have you set it in gnome or as an environment variable ?
[02:16] <TeePOG> on a related note Jack_Sparrow -- i got reading and writing of NTFS to work, way back in breezy, with ntfstools
[02:16] <Teller> Or both ?
[02:16] <dmg_> Hello, peoples, I am looking for people working on the smallbussines server stuff of ubuntu (thread "It's time to bring ubuntu to the enterprise" et al.), if anyone here is involved in that, could we have a talk?
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> TeePOG: Still not considered safe..
[02:16] <AustLaw> how do I start the parition manager in ubuntu?
[02:16] <TeePOG> erm, i installed kubuntu-desktop... it's in KDE's proxy settings
[02:16] <Jack_Sparrow> AustLaw: gparted
[02:17] <prophet5> i'd use the gparted live cd
[02:17] <Jack_Sparrow> AustLaw: in applications/system-tools
[02:17] <Teller> TeePOG: Ok, `printenv` see if you have any environment variables involving proxies set
[02:17] <Flannel> dmg_: you'll probably be better off getting information on that stuff on a mailing list
[02:17] <TeePOG> so, kget and all works, but no cli... and therefore, no automatix
[02:17] <visik7> ok time to try kont 2
[02:17] <h00t> hello ... is there a way for me to control another computer w/ realvnc but on windows from ubuntu...
[02:17] <TeePOG> thanks Teller, brb
[02:17] <Teller> Hi! I can't get my USB mouse to work on my touchpad equipped laptop.. When I move the mouse while I cat /dev/input/mouse0 I get output, so the kernel finds it alright.. More info on http://pastebin.ca/158173
[02:17] <Teller> ops
[02:18] <TTT_Travis> Hi, I am running ubuntu server and for some reason it didn't detect my network card during the install, how do I add a new one through the command line?
[02:18] <Teller> lol, that looks good after I just told someone off for repeating :P
[02:18] <AustLaw> Jack_Sparrow: dont seem to see it for some reason, and it didnt run as command
[02:18] <dmg_> yeah but which one, they just seems to be everywhere can't find any ml related to that and seems like the ubuntu-server ml is not talking about that
[02:18] <dmg_> (people working on that i mean by they)
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> AustLaw: Use synaptic to get it..
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> AustLaw: Are you running live to do this?
[02:18] <AustLaw> na
[02:18] <Jack_Sparrow> k
[02:19] <prophet5> what network card are you using
[02:19] <frog[paR] > hey guys, i have a quick question. gnome is installed on my edubuntu installation, but it auto loads the terminal. how can i have it auto load gnome when i boot it up?
[02:19] <TeePOG> Teller: i see nothing about a proxy, even though I typed "export HTTP_proxy=http://<IP_ADDRESS>:3128
[02:19] <brooklyn> can anyone tell me the sudu package command i need for the packages i need to compile/etc
[02:20] <Healot> !build
[02:20] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[02:20] <prophet5> ./configure
[02:20] <prophet5> make
[02:20] <frog[paR] > could someone help me out please
[02:20] <frog[paR] > i have a quick question. gnome is installed on my edubuntu installation, but it auto loads the terminal. how can i have it auto load gnome when i boot it up?
[02:20] <Teller> TeePOG: That's very odd
[02:20] <BHSPitLappy> uhh, wow.
[02:20] <Jack_Sparrow> brooklyn: what are you trying to install?
[02:20] <BHSPitLappy> my entire gnome session manager crashed.
[02:20] <BHSPitLappy> never expected something that serious to happen.
[02:21] <brooklyn> xchat from source, but im missing software to compile.
[02:21] <TeePOG> Teller: should I rather put that line in a conf file somewhere? i don't know if it will save it when I reboot
[02:21] <gnomefreak> brooklyn: sudo apt-get build-dep xchat
[02:21] <gnomefreak> brooklyn: than try to build it
[02:21] <Teller> TeePOG: it won't, you could set it in ~/.bashrc
[02:21] <Teller> .. to make it survive reboots
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Hi, Gnomefreak, glad to see you
[02:22] <TeePOG> ok Teller, do I just type it in there as i would on the command line?
[02:22] <gnomefreak> hi Jack_Sparrow
[02:22] <brooklyn> gnomefreak: i remember on my last install before a crash, someone told me to do a sudo-apt-get <something> and it downloaded and installed a big package that let me compile things/etc
[02:22] <Teller> TeePOG: yepp
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> build-essentials
[02:22] <Teller> brooklyn: build-essentials
[02:22] <prophet5> lol
[02:22] <brooklyn> ty :)
[02:22] <gnomefreak> brooklyn: the command i gave you will download all depends you need to build xchat :)
[02:23] <prophet5> they should be included
[02:23] <gnomefreak> build-essential for make and gcc
[02:23] <brooklyn> so what is the correct sudo command to install all build essentials :)
[02:23] <gnomefreak> prophet5: oh god please dont go there
[02:23] <Flannel> brooklyn: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:23] <Healot> !info build-essential
[02:23] <ubotu> build-essential: informational list of build-essential packages. In component main, is optional. Version 11.1 (dapper), package size 6 kB, installed size 48 kB
[02:23] <prophet5> sudo apt-get install build-essentials
[02:23] <habeeb> Whats the best way to enable direct rendering in the 2.6.17 kernel?
[02:23] <gnomefreak> brooklyn: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:23] <jvai> cut n p-aste
[02:23] <gnomefreak> prophet5: no s
[02:23] <brooklyn> Ty prophet/gnome/flannel
[02:23] <brooklyn> :)
[02:23] <gnomefreak> habeeb: install drivers for your video card
[02:24] <habeeb> gnomefreak: details? ^_^
[02:24] <prophet5> oops
[02:24] <Abst> Can I unmount a drive?
[02:24] <Abst> device sorry
[02:24] <russellb> anyone know a good package that saves images for the web? Kinda like Photoshop as the option "save for web" It basicly reduces the file size
[02:24] <habeeb> I followed this howto: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75428&highlight=fglrx But it didnt work :/
[02:24] <habeeb> How can I undo everything it did?
[02:25] <gnomefreak> habeeb: i need the details not you i dont know anything about your setup and you need to join #ubuntu+1 for edgy
[02:25] <gnomefreak> habeeb: is it wrote for edgy or dapper?
[02:25] <habeeb> gnomefreak: I'm not in edgy.
[02:25] <habeeb> gnomefreak: dapper.
[02:25] <gnomefreak> habeeb: please ask in #ubuntu+1
[02:25] <TeePOG> how do I reload my ~/.bashrc without rebooting?
[02:25] <gnomefreak> 2.6.17 is edgy kernel
[02:25] <Abst> TeePOG: I dunno but couldn't you run it manually?
[02:25] <habeeb> gnomefreak: ubuntu+1 is for dapper?
[02:25] <jrib> TeePOG: . ~/.bashrc
[02:25] <gnomefreak> TeePOG: close terminal and open it
[02:25] <habeeb> gnomefreak: and for ATI cards?
[02:26] <gnomefreak> habeeb: no but either is 2.6.17
[02:26] <gnomefreak> habeeb: why are you using edgys kernel on dapper?
[02:26] <TeePOG> will see, thanks... is this the correct case and all? "export HTTP_proxy=http://<IP_ADDRESS>:3128"
[02:26] <habeeb> because I found a howto on how to compile 2.6.17, so I thought to give it a try. Not a good choise, eh?
[02:26] <TeePOG> or should i have single quotes around the value?
[02:27] <prophet5> umount /dev/hd??
[02:27] <habeeb> Should I recompile 2.6.16?
[02:27] <flankk> How do you install apache?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> habeeb: thats more than likely why it didnt work the restricted mods are different
[02:27] <haboy_> how do i install the mp3 exporting plugin to audacity??
[02:27] <Flannel> !tell flankk about lamp
[02:27] <flankk> Flannel, I don't want PHP support.  I just want the apache server.
[02:27] <habeeb> But there are no restricted-modules package for 2.6.16 too, gnomefreak
[02:27] <gnomefreak> habeeb: whats wrong with 2.6.15
[02:28] <habeeb> gnomefreak: well, I wanted to optimize the kernel, so I chose the latest version.
[02:28] <gnomefreak> habeeb: im sure there is but either way 2.6.16 isnt suppported by ubuntu so i wouldnt know
[02:28] <Flannel> flankk: that page walks you through each part -- just read the apache stuff
[02:28] <habeeb> ok. 2.6.15 it is , then >:
[02:28] <habeeb> gnomefreak: any chance for a howto url?
[02:28] <habeeb> :/
[02:29] <gnomefreak> habeeb: i suggest you find the restricted modules package and headers package for 2.6.17 if your gonna use it and you will need the drivers for that kernel and problly the xorg for that kernel too
[02:29] <zonk> lo kto tu jest
[02:29] <brendonjt> hi all
[02:29] <flankk> Flannel, Except the instructions fail.  'apt-get install apache2' yeilds 'Package apache2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.'
[02:29] <Flannel> flankk: er, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[02:30] <flankk> Flannel, Dapper 6.06.
[02:30] <Healot> !repos
[02:30] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:30] <Flannel> flankk: and, you've got the web repositories enabled? (main, etc?)
[02:30] <viator> anyone know where i can find a vmware image  thats not a torrent
[02:30] <flankk> Flannel, yes.
[02:30] <habeeb> I really dont know what to do gnomefreak . >: Should I compile the old 2.6.15, or leave it be? :/
[02:30] <Flannel> flankk: and, you've updated? (sudo apt-get update)?
[02:30] <haboy_> how do i install the mp3 exporting plugin to audacity??
[02:30] <Healot> !find apache
[02:30] <ubotu> Found: libapache2-mod-auth-mysql, libapache2-mod-auth-pam, libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql, libapache2-mod-auth-plain, libapache2-mod-auth-sys-group (and 147 others)
[02:30] <flankk> Flannel, yes.
[02:30] <viator> theres noone seeding the one on their servers
[02:30] <Healot> !find apache2
[02:30] <ubotu> Found: libapache2-mod-auth-mysql, libapache2-mod-auth-pam, libapache2-mod-auth-pgsql, libapache2-mod-auth-plain, libapache2-mod-auth-sys-group (and 50 others)
[02:31] <BlueEagle> viator: what kind of image?
[02:31] <viator> vmware
[02:31] <flankk> Healot, I don't want PHP.
[02:31] <viator> player
[02:31] <gnomefreak> habeeb: i told you what to look for and install but i suggest 2.6.15 for the reason of it works ther eis no headache
[02:31] <Healot> flankk: not giving you php
[02:31] <Flannel> flankk: it should work fine, try installing one of the specific modules - http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/web/apache2
[02:31] <habeeb> Ok gnomefreak
[02:31] <Flannel> flankk: in addition to apache2
[02:32] <viator> its got to be dapper
[02:32] <BlueEagle> viator: If you're looking for vmware-player then I think I saw that in add/remove programs. If you want an image you probably want it to be an image of something. To help locate an image of that spesific os it would be helpful to know which os you were looking for an image of. (hence the question what kind of image)
[02:32] <haboy_> how do i install the mp3 exporting plugin to audacity??
[02:32] <ardchoille> The Ubuntu wiki ROCKS! I bought a new hd and wanted to know how to get it mounted at boot. I searched for "new hard disk" and the wiki returned the exact page I needed :)
[02:32] <flankk> Flannel, I have universe enabled in my sources.list.
[02:32] <viator> i want a vitual machine or whatever of dapper
[02:32] <BlueEagle> haboy_: Isn't that explained on the audacity home page?
[02:32] <Flannel> flankk: er, is that the only one?
[02:32] <viator> to test in windows
[02:33] <BlueEagle> viator: Ahh, I see. Haven't seen any of them around tbh. :)
[02:33] <haboy_> BlueEagle: i dont really know
[02:33] <flankk> Flannel, no.  Multiverse and backports too, if that matters.
[02:33] <Flannel> flankk: Not main though?
[02:33] <viator> theres a link on the vmware site
[02:33] <flankk> Flannel, of course.
[02:33] <viator> but its a torrent
[02:33] <BlueEagle> haboy_: That's where I'd check first.
[02:33] <viator> and noone is seeding ti
[02:34] <BlueEagle> viator: However you could make one yourself if it's important. :)
[02:34] <haboy_> BlueEagle: what do you audacity home page?? i have to visit its website??
[02:34] <Flannel> flankk: you've got some random other issues then.  Apache2 is really cut and dry, entirely in main.. unless backports is causing problems.  Try "apt-cache search apache2" (you'll probably want a less in there) does apache2 show up?
[02:34] <codecaine> hi im trying to write a script in ubuntu and I want them to enter there input ont he same line of the choce I did \c but it prints up /c whys that?
[02:34] <prophet5> install lame
[02:34] <Gregyboy> hey guys
[02:34] <BlueEagle> haboy_: The home page of the application that is causing your trouble is often a good place to start to look for a solution, yes.
[02:34] <habeeb> I cant find a howto on how to compile the 2.6.15 kernel, only for < 2.6.16 -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157560
[02:34] <Gregyboy> i just installed xubuntu
[02:35] <Gregyboy> I LOVE IT!
[02:35] <Flannel> !tell habeeb about kernel
[02:35] <Flannel> habeeb: try that link
[02:35] <habeeb> Flannel: <3
[02:35] <Gregyboy> i have one prob throught
[02:35] <Gregyboy> i need a program other then gaim to get onto to msn
[02:35] <Flannel> habeeb: the wiki is more reliable than the forums (not that the forums are poor, just sometimes people get things wrong)
[02:35] <habeeb> Flannel: I want to compile 2.6.15 to have the restricted-modules for it.
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> amsn?
[02:35] <Gregyboy> i downloaded a version of amsn i have no idea what i have to do
[02:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Gregyboy: how did you dl it
[02:36] <Gregyboy> firefox
[02:36] <Flannel> habeeb: 2.6.15 is in the repositories, why do you feel the need to compile your own?
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> !amsn
[02:36] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-1 (dapper), package size 2233 kB, installed size 7852 kB
[02:36] <Gregyboy> i chose other in distros because it din not have amsn
[02:36] <habeeb> Flannel: to optimize it too ^_^
[02:36] <haboy_> BlueEagle: anyway i can u help me. i just want to change the bit rate of my mp3 from 192 to 128kbps
[02:36] <flankk> Flannel, it doesn't show up.  But I have all the main repos enabled.
[02:36] <Flannel> flankk: pastebin your sources list please
[02:36] <Flannel> !paste
[02:36] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Gregyboy: Suggest you get it using Synaptic .. enable Universe repo
[02:36] <Gregyboy> huh?
[02:37] <Gregyboy> synaptic?
[02:37] <Byan>
[02:37] <Byan> eh?
[02:37] <Healot> geek est dificile
[02:37] <Flannel> Gregyboy, Jack_Sparrow, as of dapper, the repositories are in "Software Properties" not synaptic
[02:37] <Abst> Is there a command to withdraw an open cdrom from a shell script?
[02:37] <habeeb> So, how can I install 2.6.15 from the reps Flannel ?
[02:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Gregyboy: system/admin/synaptic.. it is how we get and install most software
[02:38] <smick> I need to install some compiz stuff.  but I can't see the name to uninstall with
[02:38] <morodock> anyone know where to get the empconfig dependency for emperorlinux kernel (for laptops) located the kernel but can't find empconfig dependency.
[02:38] <smick> can sombody tell me the command to uninstall compiz?
[02:38] <Gregyboy> im lost im very new to linux how do i open that?
[02:38] <jvai> got it
[02:38] <jvai> :)
[02:38] <Flannel> habeeb: you're using dapper, right?  It's already installed
[02:38] <habeeb> Flannel: yes, but I'm in 2.6.17 right now <:
[02:38] <Flannel> smick: #ubuntu-xgl (and it depends on how you installed it)
[02:38] <flankk> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/22289
[02:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Flannel: You can enable them from synaptic as well
[02:38] <hockyhair> hello
[02:38] <habeeb> Flannel: and I couldnt install fglrx support with direct rendering, and I want to turn back to 2.6.15 :)
[02:38] <Flannel> habeeb: so, reboot and select 2.6.15 form your grub menu
[02:38] <Healot> reboot and select the .15 kernel, habeeb
[02:39] <habeeb> Flannel:  I see.
[02:39] <habeeb> I'll try it.
[02:39] <Flannel> flankk: you don't have main in there, that's why
[02:39] <User20> Hi.  Im new to linux.  Can some one pm me and help me install graphics drivers.
[02:39] <hockyhair> i am trying to start a console (urxvt, eterm, aterm) with a path/cmd i read the man pages and understand "-e" (sorta) i can start the program in the console but it closes right away.
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> User20: what video card..
[02:39] <User20> bfg 7300
[02:39] <flankk> Flannel, I see.  I used to., apparantly Automatix removed it.
[02:39] <smick> thanks, and where do I remove all the different boot listings, I"m dual booting windows and there keeps increasing a number of ubuntu versions to boot into. Can I edit that boot list?
[02:39] <Jack_Sparrow> nvidia
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> !nvidia
[02:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:40] <User20> yea
[02:40] <hockyhair> say "Eterm -e /path/to/mp3blaster" for example
[02:40] <Flannel> flankk: automatix causes nothing but problems
[02:40] <Jack_Sparrow> User20: Start there
[02:40] <brooklyn> Flannel: how so
[02:40] <Flannel> brooklyn: by breaking things
[02:40] <brooklyn> hrm...
[02:40] <ladydoor> hockyhair: if you start the terminal with -e, when the program exits the terminal does too
[02:40] <brooklyn> maybe i should remove =)
[02:40] <ladydoor> hockyhair: for it not to do that, you just need to start the terminal normally
[02:41] <ladydoor> hockyhair: and type the name of the command
[02:41] <User20> well i found this guide here. http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Latest_Nvidia_Dapper it says "Make sure you have both the Universe and Multiverse repositories enabled. "  i have no clue what that is
[02:41] <ladydoor> !repositories
[02:41] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[02:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Wife is home... everyone play nice.. goodnight
[02:41] <flankk> Flannel, to be fair, it saved me much greif in compiling my own packages that ubuntu doesn't provide.  In exchange it modifies my sources.list without telling me.
[02:41] <Flannel> User20: read the second link of the line ubotu just said
[02:41] <ladydoor> Flannel: thanks :-)
[02:41] <Flannel> flankk: and, you dodged the bullet of it breaking your system entirely.
[02:41] <hockyhair> i figured it out, thx
[02:42] <ladydoor> hockyhair: sweet.
[02:42] <brooklyn> Flannel: how do you remove automatix once installed?
[02:42] <flankk> Flannel, I feel weary using any unofficial packages but I'm left with little choice.
[02:42] <ladydoor> brooklyn: sudo aptitude remove --purge automatix
[02:42] <ladydoor> brooklyn: and then you can go ahead and remove automatix from the repositories
[02:43] <brooklyn> ah.. thats harsh. automatix has some cool software.
[02:43] <ladydoor> brooklyn: i used it. apparently it doesn't work for some though
[02:43] <Powerbook`> how does ubuntu work on mac?
[02:43] <brooklyn> does it honestly have a bad reputation of breaking systems?
[02:43] <Flannel> yes.
[02:43] <ladydoor> brooklyn: it can overwrite your sources.list
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> brooklyn,  very bad.. and there was a huge flamewar about it once on the message boards.
[02:44] <ladydoor> brooklyn: (if you choose)
[02:44] <brooklyn> ladydoor: and if it does, what exactly happens?
[02:44] <Powerbook`> would duel booting mac with ubuntu be good on a powerbook 1 gb ram 100 gb hd?
[02:44] <ladydoor> brooklyn: i'm not sure. i wasn't one of those whose system it messed up
[02:44] <xhaan> ladydoor, that one dialog that asks always scares me, lol
[02:44] <Flannel> regardless of soruces.list, (that's relatively minor) it nicely leaves your system in broken states
[02:44] <ladydoor> xhaan: yeah, me too :-)
[02:44] <Flannel> sources.list really is the least of your worries, when it goes bad
[02:44] <ladydoor> xhaan: it's not very intuitive which one to click to make it not overwrite
[02:44] <smick> what is sudo apt-get -f install?
[02:45] <cafuego> lovely
[02:45] <brooklyn> ok, so once i do sudo aptitude remove --purge automatix - what do i do next to COMPLETELY remove it?
[02:45] <ladydoor> xhaan: (and point/click stuff makes me nervous anyway)
[02:45] <ladydoor> brooklyn: you just did that
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> brooklyn,  you used it to install stuff?
[02:45] <flankk> Flannel, installed smoothly now.  Thanks.
[02:45] <brooklyn> Dr_Willis: i used it to install one thing, yes
[02:45] <brooklyn> now im trying to remove automatix, because of its reputation
[02:45] <Powerbook`> would duel booting mac with ubuntu be good on a powerbook 1 gb ram 100 gb hd?
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> !automatix
[02:45] <ubotu> Automatix is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. For help with and discussion of automatix please join #automatix.
[02:46] <ladydoor> brooklyn: if it just sits on your system it won't do anything :-)
[02:46] <cafuego> Powerbook`: it'll be fine (even the wireless works!)
[02:46] <brooklyn> hmm....
[02:46] <brooklyn> what do you mean... if i use it to get software, it hurts things?
[02:46] <Healot> Powerbook`: you define "good" yourself...
[02:46] <acdc> what package/repository do I need to get wmv playback?
[02:46] <BRob> anyone know how to add an ethernet card to a new ubuntu installation?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> brooklyn,  it can/has been known tol
[02:46] <ladydoor> !codecs
[02:46] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:46] <BRob> I have an onboard ethernet adapater that was not recognized during the install
[02:46] <ladydoor> acdc: ^
[02:47] <acdc> ta
[02:47] <brooklyn> Dr_willis: ok, so how do i completely remove it? will sudo aptitude remove --purge automatix get rid of it totally
[02:47] <flankk> Other than providing unofficial packages, is there any reason to use Automatix "at your own risk?"  Is there reason to belive the binaries include malicious code or are they trusted?
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> brooklyn,  that removes the program of course.. but whats the point of worrying about it now. :)
[02:47] <ladydoor> brooklyn: that removes the program and all its config files outside your home dir
[02:47] <Flannel> flankk: not malicious, just poorly coded and tested
[02:47] <brooklyn> hrm... because i actually think it did do something to my source.list
[02:47] <brooklyn> but i removed it from my system....
[02:47] <ladydoor> Flannel: (i.e., nonfree)
[02:48] <Flannel> ladydoor: no, not even those parts... automatix itself
[02:48] <ladydoor> brooklyn: if you'll paste your sources.list into pastebin i'd be glad to take a look :-)
[02:48] <brooklyn> k, 1 sec.
[02:48] <ladydoor> Flannel: aha. check
[02:48] <Healot> why nobody seems not mention the infamous source-o-matic?
[02:48] <xhaan> whoa
[02:48] <ladydoor> Flannel: i was misinformed then :-)
[02:48] <flankk> Flannel, what is preventing it from being malicious as well?  Are the package maintainers for Automatix trusted individuals?
[02:48] <hockyhair> well i thought i had it figured out, but i need to have urxvt start in a specific dir, how can i accoplish this?
[02:49] <cafuego> It's got to be weekend.
[02:49] <steve__> i am installing dapper on my imac 333mhz - erase entire disk and use LVM<--- wtf is LVM?
[02:49] <ladydoor> flankk: as zie said, it's not so much "malicious" as "poorly coded"
[02:49] <Flannel> flankk: they're just average people... Personally I don't like them.
[02:49] <cafuego> steve__: Something you don't need, logical volume mangement.
[02:49] <Healot> LinuxVolumeManagement
[02:49] <brooklyn> ladydoor: sources.list in /etc/apt?
[02:49] <ladydoor> brooklyn: yup!
[02:49] <cafuego> steve__: Note that Dapper is going to be slow on that if you have under 512Mb ram.
[02:49] <steve__> so i should choose that rather than just erase disk option y'reckon?
[02:50] <Flannel> flankk: the automatix developer(s) have had some arguments with the community etc.  Unlike easyubuntu, which is a lot closer to the rest of the linux mentality
[02:50] <cafuego> steve__: No, you do _not_ need lvm.
[02:50] <steve__> yeah - i only have 128mb but i can instal 512 eventually
[02:50] <flankk> Flannel, I'm an average person and I could easily create a repo with malicious code injected into packages.  Again my question, what makes them so trusted?
[02:50] <Flannel> but, this automatix discussion has gotten -offtopic, if anyone would like to further discuss it, we can move the conversation there (#ubuntu-offtopic)
[02:50] <steve__> oh...OK...thanks
[02:50] <gnomefreak> please take the automatix topic to #automaticx
[02:50] <ladydoor> or #automatix
[02:50] <gnomefreak> #automatix
[02:50] <gnomefreak> ty ladydoor
[02:50] <Healot> it's #automatix :)
[02:51] <ladydoor> gnomefreak: np :-)
[02:51] <hockyhair> anyone know how to change the directory a console starts in
[02:51] <brooklyn> ladydoor: one sec, pastebin is being kind of slow =P
[02:51] <cafuego> steve__: On a 333MHz mac with 128Mb ram, dapper (with gnome) is not going to be useable.
[02:51] <ladydoor> brooklyn: kk
[02:51] <brooklyn> ladydoor: http://pastebin.com/781722
[02:51] <BRob> hockeyhair, add 'cd <insert directory here>' to your .bashrc in your home directory
[02:51] <brooklyn> ladydoor: it seems automatix was added at the bottom of my sources.list
[02:51] <ladydoor> hockyhair: maybe add to your ~/.bashrc (at the end) cd /path/to/dir/you/want
[02:51] <ladydoor> brooklyn: you had to add that to install it in the first place, haha
[02:52] <brooklyn> so... is this going to hurt the system at all
[02:52] <steve__> cafuego ok - i will give it a bash neway and just reinstal warty - but synaptic manger seems to be fuxored in warty
[02:52] <morodock> New kernel showing dual core cpus :) YEAH!!!!
[02:52] <cafuego> steve__: hrm.
[02:52] <hockyhair> what if i want only one console to start in a specific directory
[02:52] <Flannel> steve__: watch the language, and... warty is no longer supported, why not upgrade to... anything else?
[02:53] <Kurimu> help plz...
[02:53] <ladydoor> brooklyn: ok, that looks fine to me. do you want to get updates to GNASH and from ubuntu-commercial?
[02:53] <cafuego> Flannel: You haven't been paying attention, have you?
[02:53] <Flannel> cafuego: nope, sorry.
[02:53] <brooklyn> ladydoor: sure :)
[02:53] <Kurimu> lemme see how i can explain this without sounding too confusing...
[02:53] <BRob> i just installed ubuntu 6.06 from CD, and 'make' is not on my system, anyone know how to install it with no network connection?
[02:53] <BRob> i need it to build my wireless adapter driver
[02:53] <gnomefreak> BRob: build-essential
[02:53] <Healot> !build > BRob
[02:54] <gnomefreak> BRob: you can install it off the disk
[02:54] <brooklyn> BRob: build-essential?
[02:54] <ladydoor> brooklyn: cool. then you don't need to change anything
[02:54] <ladydoor> brooklyn: i don't think
[02:54] <brooklyn> ladydoor: *phew*
[02:54] <ladydoor> brooklyn: haha
[02:54] <BRob> ok, thanks guys
[02:54] <BRob> i'll look into both
[02:54] <brooklyn> thanks again ladydoor
[02:54] <steve__> mmm...ok go for the next up from warty...whats that breezy??
[02:54] <ladydoor> brooklyn: np. i think you would've known if you'd broken anything, haha
[02:54] <Harkins> Is it possible to use NetworkManager if I use fluxbox as my wm? How do I get at its control panel?
[02:55] <brooklyn> ladydoor: lol - well the program itself actually worked great, but i havent rebooted since yet...
[02:55] <steve__> i only want to use ekiga the new version of gnome meeting
[02:55] <cafuego> steve__: yup
[02:55] <brooklyn> i atleast got a nice p2p program out of it... lol
[02:55] <ladydoor> brooklyn: well, you don't usually need to reboot ubuntu9, haha
[02:55] <brooklyn> heh, yea.
[02:55] <ladydoor> brooklyn: there are people who don't turn their computers off
[02:56] <Kurimu> Basically, I am using a Ubuntu 6.06 CD; I always occasionally use ubuntu's Live-CD but always go back to windows, not the NTLDR doesn't work. I want to copy an image to my floppydisk and well... its not letting me. I tried that dd if=<image> of=<function>, but it doesnt work at all. It says the floppy disk is locked, and i can't mount any NTFS drives in hope of replacing those damaged files..
[02:56] <nyc-h0st> hi everyone, i doubt i'm the first person to try this, i need to do gnome-rdp over ppp0, or rdesktop over ppp0 doesnt really matter but neither one would look at ppp0 they look on eth0...HELP!
[02:56] <Kurimu> btw i am a uber-linux noob ._.
[02:56] <brooklyn> Kurimu: why not just partition and install?
[02:56] <habeeb> Well, installed fglrx support. fglrxinfo shows normal things. but glxinfo shows no direct rendering.. Why? 2.6.15 kernel..
[02:57] <Kurimu> i dont even want to touch partitions right now, i have too much valuable info on the HD for something to go wrong
[02:58] <Kurimu> i've had bad expriences with attempting to parition my drive :-/
[02:58] <Abst> Kurimu: Same here
[02:58] <Abst> I reinstalled today cause I screwed up :(
[02:58] <Kurimu> if i could only mount the main NTFS drive, i can simply replace the files; i have the files ready
[02:58] <Kurimu> >_<
[02:59] <ladydoor> Kurimu: you probably can't copy to the floppy b/c the iso is going to be greater than FAT's limit
[02:59] <brooklyn> the iso image is to big for a floppy...
[02:59] <Kurimu> its a .img and its 1.4MB
[02:59] <ladydoor> well, good luck!
[02:59] <Kurimu> ....
[03:00] <brooklyn> or, just backup all your valueable stuff on a spare drive/disk/whatever, and install when you know your safe =P
[03:00] <h00t> how can i find out what vnc version do i have
[03:00] <Kurimu> quick question, why cant Ubuntu mount NTFS drives; i've tried other linux distro and a few can. Ubuntu seems to me one of the most user-friendly
[03:00] <Kurimu> this would all be so simple if it could -_-
[03:01] <digivore> !pastebin
[03:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:01] <nyc-h0st> hi everyone, i doubt i'm the first person to try this, i need to do gnome-rdp over ppp0, or rdesktop over ppp0 doesnt really matter but neither one would look at ppp0 they look on eth0...HELP!
[03:01] <h00t> Kurimu: IT CAN
[03:01] <mutk> Kurimu, It says the disk is locked?? Is it mounted or something ? Oh hang on there is a write protect tab on a floppy. Check that?
[03:01] <Kurimu> but its not letting me
[03:01] <brooklyn> h00t: stupid question, did you used to go by the name h00tnany or something?
[03:01] <Kurimu> its not locked on the actual floppy.. i checked...
[03:01] <llama32> i'm having ubuntu specific problems with [lib] gcj... whenever i try to use gcj, it says "libgcj.spec: no such file/dir", and locate at least won't show any libgcj.spec
[03:01] <dmg_> nyc-h0st, huh ?
[03:01] <acdc> I want to create configuration for my keyboard model, however I don't understand the codes symbols/inet file uses. Is there a manual/tutorial on that somewhere?
[03:01] <mikeconcepts> I'm using RealVNC from XP into Ubuntu with XGL and Compiz running. Installed x11vnc and works great! I followed this HowTo http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=236053
[03:02] <crimsun> llama32: why would you need the spec file?
[03:02] <h00t> brooklyn: ... no ... always 'h00t'
[03:02] <mutk> Kurimu, 'It's not letting me' is not enough info. The exactly failure is needed.
[03:02] <dmg_> your ppp0 is not configured then...
[03:02] <quantux> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountNtfsOnBoot
[03:02] <crimsun> mikeconcepts: probably more relevant in #ubuntu-xgl
[03:02] <nyc-h0st> it is i can ping using -L
[03:02] <nyc-h0st> on it
[03:02] <Abst> This is offtopic but how do I set my freenode autojoin list?
[03:02] <nyc-h0st> am i missing something? if i do a plain ping it wont ping, but if i do -L ppp0 it will work
[03:02] <llama32> crimsun: no idea... but like even when i run it with no arguments, it just says that and dies
[03:02] <mikeconcepts> crimsum: thanks, told them there first already
[03:03] <brooklyn> Abst: if your using xchat, i think theres an option for it?
[03:03] <h00t> can I vnc from ubuntu into window... i tried 'vncviewer' but when i type the ip address nothing happens
[03:03] <BRob> anyone know why my onboard ethernet adapter is not recognized?  I have no eth0 adapter
[03:04] <mutk> dbcnhoyh<EMAIL_ADDRESS><-- needs adding to ban list BTW
[03:04] <Kurimu> The floppy is mounted as /media/floppy, i try to actually put the image on the floppy but when i do there is no activity to the floppy and it said it copied to it at a rate that the floppy simply cannot allow; It "says" it wrote it when it didn't; it wont let me format the floppy either
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> h00t,  you are running vncserver on the windows box?
[03:04] <Kurimu> lemme get the error for the format pop-up
[03:04] <Kurimu> one sec
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> h00t,  also you enter the 'desktop' # for it to connect to.  ip#:0 normally
[03:04] <mutk> Kurimu, Unmount it. dd writes directly to the block device, not to the filesystem
[03:05] <mikeconcepts> h00t: use terminal server client
[03:05] <h00t> i'm running realvnc on the windows box...
[03:05] <h00t> so what exactly should i do ... isn't realvnc buit in into ubuntu already
[03:05] <Healot> ho
[03:06] <Kurimu> The filesystem creation utility (/sbin/mkdosfs) reported the following error(s): mkdosfs: /dev/sde contains a mounted file system (50)
[03:06] <Healot> sensing some jp attack here
[03:06] <mutk> Any ops around we are being attacked here..
[03:06] <h00t> mikeconcepts: where is termincal server client
[03:06] <mutk> Healot, What do you recon
[03:06] <Kurimu> okay, lemme try unmounting it then
[03:06] <Healot> the same nicks
[03:06] <Healot> wtf?
[03:06] <mikeconcepts> hoot: applications/internet/terminal server client
[03:07] <Healot> dude, at least create some randomized nicks for f*** sake
[03:07] <mutk> Healot, Kiddies.
[03:07] <GLABY> bonsoir ou bonjour
[03:07] <Kurimu> err... there is no actual option to unmount it, just eject it
[03:07] <GLABY> hello
[03:07] <Abst> Hi
[03:07] <Abst> !fr
[03:07] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[03:07] <Kurimu> need to try it manually in the terminal?
[03:07] <Healot> bonjour here, GLABY
[03:08] <DBO> mutk, not much we can do really...
[03:08] <mutk> Kurimu, At a terminal type   umount /media/floppy
[03:08] <GLABY> You have only ubuntu on your computer?
[03:08] <mikeconcepts> h00t: if you install realvnc on XP and setup the server on the xp machine, type vncviewer and other related things like ip and port
[03:08] <Kurimu> whats the command to become root again?
[03:09] <Healot> sudo -i
[03:09] <Healot> or sudo su
[03:09] <mutk> Kurimu, sudo umount /media/floppy
[03:09] <Healot> both works btw
[03:09] <_dert_> i am currently booted into dapperdrake install cd - but i don't get my bluetooth mouse working, can anyone help?
[03:09] <GLABY> I am connect to root with su root
[03:09] <h00t> mikeconcepts: ok everything worked but it says that the server protocol is 3.8 but viewer protocol is 3.3 ... how can i upgrade
[03:09] <mutk> Quick fix turn off auto accept DCC
[03:10] <h00t> there's an option in 'terminal server' to open something called 'protocol file' ...
[03:10] <mikeconcepts> h00t: I'm just a noob
[03:10] <GLABY> I am a proble mwith install Wint PVR150 but it's not urgent
[03:10] <Kurimu> mutk: Okay, i think its unmounted
[03:11] <mutk> Kurimu, Right, now you should be able to dd to the block device
[03:11] <Kurimu> -_-
[03:11] <mutk> How boring.
[03:11] <liquidten2> <_<
[03:11] <Healot> *yawm*
[03:11] <Healot> JP attack is so history
[03:11] <holycow_> http://www.videosift.com/story.php?id=9450  <-- cool demo
[03:11] <mutk> Now everone make sure DCC autop accpet is off :)
[03:11] <Kurimu> yeah... i'll try it now...
[03:11] <Healot> why people even bother using it?
[03:11] <AdamKrier> what program do you guys use to tag directories of mp3's?
[03:11] <h00t> i bet you can't kick me off
[03:12] <ugarit> when i attempt to use HPLIP  I get the message that there is no HP device installed, while I have set one up via cups, and I can actually print to this hp oj 7310 printer.  what am I doing wrong?
[03:12] <mutk> Healot, I just wonder why attack at all? Is ubuntu an enemy to some people?
[03:12] <Healot> pissed off ex-admin?
[03:12] <brooklyn> is h00t attacking? lol
[03:12] <Healot>  i mean ex-operator?
[03:12] <holycow_> or someone that got banned
[03:13] <cafuego> Just a child with nothing better to do.
[03:13] <GLABY> Very people her
[03:13] <Megaqwerty> !swf
[03:13] <GLABY> here
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swf - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <_dert_> how can i activate the numpad to control the mousecursor?
[03:13] <brooklyn> its a pathetic botnet, whoever it is.
[03:13] <Megaqwerty> does anyone know how to play .swf files?
[03:13] <holycow_> http://www.videosift.com/story.php?id=9449  <-- another cool xgl demo
[03:14] <Megaqwerty> (from my HD)
[03:14] <brooklyn> Megaqwerty: in browser?
[03:14] <holycow_> i think thats probably a very neat way to work with a computer
[03:14] <_dert_> i am used to something like <shift><num> but that doesn't work
[03:14] <cafuego> brooklyn: Are you implying there are cases when needing a botnet is not pathetic?
[03:14] <Megaqwerty> brooklyn: no on my Hard Drive
[03:14] <liquidten2> .swf Is macromedia flash.  I assume if you have the plugin set up, just open the file in firefox.
[03:14] <holycow_> i can imagine someone using it like that with a touchscreen laptop
[03:14] <Megaqwerty> liquidten2: thanks!
[03:14] <Kurimu> mutk: thanks alot... why couldnt that be that easy in the beginning? xD
[03:14] <h00t> can anyone help me w/ this vnc issue .. how can i upgrade protocol to 3.8
[03:14] <mutk> Kurimu, :)
[03:14] <brooklyn> cafuego: no, its all pathetic, but if your going to have one, atleast make it more worthwhile then 10..
[03:14] <Healot> !flash
[03:14] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:14] <Kurimu> and now to *hopefully* get back into windows and backk all my crap up
[03:15] <BluR> I'm trying to do hex->ascii conversion on the command line.  hexdump appears to be what I want but I can't figure it out.  hexdump -e "%_u" gives me an error.  anyone have an idea?
[03:15] <Kurimu> before something like this happens again
[03:15] <GLABY> What is the program for emulator an exe fils windows?
[03:15] <liquidten2> WINE
[03:15] <GLABY> Cedega ?
[03:15] <cafuego> those are the hairiest arms I've ever seen
[03:15] <GLABY> i havent windows
[03:15] <DBO> ***Sorry about that folks, handling it now***
[03:15] <GLABY> wine functionnaly ?
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> h00t,  use the vncviewer and enter the ip/port of the window machine.. vncviewer windoewsip:0
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> h00t,  its also possible that the windows firewall is blocking it.
[03:16] <ugarit> anyone here using hplip?
[03:17] <wweasel> Hey. For some reason, the default behaviour of Gnome or Ubuntu is, if I have a folder named Documents in my home, place a link to it under the Places menu. I'd not to have it there.   But the question is how to get rid of it :P
[03:19] <larryone> ty DBO
[03:19] <Dr_Willis> hockyhair,  and be staggered by the options ls has. :P
[03:19] <larryone> right
[03:19] <holycow_> wweasel, thats my question too ... donno ...
[03:20] <larryone> I have installed ubuntu server
[03:20] <StoneNote> I am NOT a mad scientist. I am a very angry scientist.
[03:20] <larryone> but I'mn in trouble
[03:20] <larryone> for one thing, I'm slightly drunk
[03:20] <larryone> for another, mI'm only connected via the console
[03:21] <robert_> my openslsl seems to be busted
[03:21] <larryone> I have root
[03:21] <larryone> I need to be able to login over ssh
[03:21] <GLABY> do you have a link for programming macro for Open Office
[03:21] <User20> Can some one pm me with a way to set costom resolution in kubuntu
[03:21] <StoneNote> larryone, I for one have never been very good at following complex instructions while intoxicated. in fact, one day riding the tubes of the internets while intoxicated will probably be illegal
[03:21] <Dr_Willis> !fixres
[03:21] <ubotu> x is the X Window System; it's the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[03:21] <BRob> how can i find out what version of the kernel i'm running?
[03:21] <DBO> hrm... wonder if its over...
[03:21] <sris> Question: Anyone experienced the cd tray behaving weird, i.e. ejecting itself all the time, after inastalling ubuntu on a computer with windows already installed on?
[03:21] <wweasel> BRob: uname -a
[03:22] <StoneNote> sris no
[03:22] <BRob> sweet, thanks wweasel
[03:22] <Roger_The_Bum> sris, no
[03:22] <wweasel> BRob: "uname -r" will tell you only kernel version
[03:22] <larryone> StoneNote, I have done alot of importand admin tasks while drunk (we have very few admins on our projest
[03:22] <BRob> great thanks
[03:22] <larryone> )
[03:22] <backz> Hi, I've a problem when I try to write CDR on my LG-DVDR Driver, it shows: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/lnFFGd73.html - I'm using kernel 2.6.15-26-k7
[03:22] <brooklyn> sris: nope..
[03:22] <Roger_The_Bum> and I installed 2 dual boot systems and use both oses on the boxen
[03:22] <sris> Im really puzzled, my first install of linux/ubuntu ever, and it seems like the whole dual boot/grub stuff has gone a little wrong :D
[03:23] <larryone> so I need ssh access
[03:23] <larryone> ow do I set it up?
[03:23] <h00t> Dr_Willis: sorry dude I was searchin forums for the answer ... but basically it connects ... the only thing is that ubuntu vncviewwer only supports protocol version 3.3 ... server is set on 3.8
[03:23] <sris> my cd tray just goes in and out when i reboot now :D
[03:23] <Roger_The_Bum> sudo apt-get install ssl
[03:23] <Roger_The_Bum> I think
[03:23] <h00t> Dr_Willis: ho can i upgrade
[03:23] <Roger_The_Bum> look for ssl in synaptic
[03:23] <DBO> ***ANNOUNCEMENT***Once again, sorry about the delayed response, if it picks up again please use the !ops options***
[03:23] <larryone> cool
[03:23] <Roger_The_Bum> I just installed openssl server today on my ubuntu box
[03:23] <larryone> cheers
[03:24] <beerfan> From reading about NetworkManager, it seems that it is supposed to have an init.d script but I don't have /etc/init.d/networkmanager. Is this a problem with the Ubuntu package?
[03:24] <Roger_The_Bum> and it's working fine on my mac
[03:24] <mrmojo> hello
[03:24] <mrmojo> is anyone from romania here?
[03:24] <Roger_The_Bum> hello mojo
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> h00t,  ive used vnc ooodles of times. and cant recall ever it saying somthing similer. its supposed to auto-downgrade to the loser protols.  may be some options ya can use to force it, I notmally use 'vnc4viewer' on linux and 'ultravnc' on windows.
[03:25] <Abst> Can anyone help me get my apache2 accessible from outside of my router
[03:26] <Roger_The_Bum> Abst, I can
[03:26] <BRob> how can i find out if i have "Crypto AP support in kernel
[03:26] <BRob>     * option CONFIG_CRYPTO
[03:26] <BRob> "
[03:26] <Roger_The_Bum> what router are you using
[03:26] <Abst> Im using a Belkin
[03:26] <Roger_The_Bum> open up the config page
[03:26] <Abst> I've done port forwaridng though
[03:26] <Abst> On port 80
[03:26] <h00t> Dr_Willis: the problem is that i don't have 'vnc4viewer' on ubuntu box ... only 'vncviewer' ... how can i upgrade and take the old one out
[03:26] <Abst> So I dont know whats wrong
[03:26] <Roger_The_Bum> o
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> h00t,  whatever vnc package you install normally installs its own viewert and calls it vncviewer
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> h00t,  try vncviewer --version
[03:27] <sris> Another question: Does the ubuntu install usually install grub/dual boot stuff, without asking about it?
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> sris,  yes
[03:27] <sris> Dr_Willis, ok. thx
[03:28] <h00t> Dr_Willis: I knew it it's version 3.3.7 .. can you pls tell me the commands to upgrade that one piece of software
[03:29] <Roger_The_Bum> h00t: wild obvious guess, but go to synaptic and just click the check for updates option
[03:29] <kevinG> How do I change the splash screen?
[03:30] <brendonjt> Kia Ora  one and all
[03:30] <ardchoille> kevinG: Which splash screen? The gnome splash screen?
[03:30] <kevinG> yeah
[03:30] <beerfan> Can someone running network manager check if they have a /etc/init.d/NetworkManager file?
[03:30] <Roger_The_Bum> hmmm
[03:31] <ardchoille> kevinG: In the gconf-editor, go to: apps/gnome-session/options, right-click the splash_image key and choose the desired image, ex.: splash/gnome-splash-context.png. Keep in mind that the "splash/" part of the above must preceed the new splash filename.
[03:31] <sris> Is it possible that installing ubuntu on a slave drive (ide) with a cd-rom as primary, could cause some weird problems?
[03:31] <ardchoille> kevinG: You can put new splash screens in /usr/share/pixmaps/splash
[03:31] <Roger_The_Bum> /etc/init.d/networking ?
[03:31] <sris> master*
[03:31] <kevinG> okay
[03:32] <beerfan> Roger_The_Bum, no. NetworkManager
[03:32] <Roger_The_Bum> beerfan, no
[03:32] <Roger_The_Bum> I don't
[03:32] <backz> j #ubuntu-br
[03:32] <beerfan> Hrm. There is supposed to be one.
[03:32] <Roger_The_Bum> are you sure it isn't /usr/bin/networkmanager ?
[03:32] <brendonjt> sris:  i don'r see how it would cause any problem
[03:33] <beerfan> I'm reading messages on the nm list and they refer to init.d/NetworkManager
[03:33] <sris> brendonjt, ok, im trying to figure out what i've done ;)
[03:33] <Roger_The_Bum> whoa
[03:33] <Roger_The_Bum> wielding a banstick there?
[03:33] <teddy233> hey people
[03:33] <teddy233> :D
[03:33] <teddy233> i'm just looking for a nice place to hang and chill and chat
[03:33] <h00t> Roger_The_Bum: ok ... so i found it in Synaptic ... how do i check for updates ... i don't see any button
[03:33] <wweasel> Hey. For some reason, the default behaviour of Gnome or Ubuntu is, if I have a folder named Documents in my home, place a link to it under the Places menu. I'd not to have it there. How can I remove it?
[03:33] <teddy233> and this is the biggest room that would let me in
[03:33] <Roger_The_Bum> h00t, try installing
[03:33] <DBO> Roger_The_Bum, they are vulnerable to the D C C exploit, so we bring them to ubuntu ops =)
[03:34] <sris> brendonjt, because i cant close my cd-tray anymore and grub isn't working. just installed ubuntu for the first time ;)
[03:34] <teddy233> hows life?
[03:34] <Roger_The_Bum> h00t: right click on the package and select install
[03:34] <brendonjt> sris:  weird,  i did that  with another distro  while i was running windows and it worked fine,
[03:35] <brendonjt> sris:  something  must have gone  screwie
[03:35] <sris> brendonjt, i think it's maybesomething with that, and the fact that i've got a lot of ide/sata disc in a nice mix ;)
[03:36] <brendonjt> sris:  umm true,  have you though about making ur secondry  slave the master slave  and the cdrom  the secondry slave
[03:36] <Jamminpotato> is edgy eft comeing out early or late october?
[03:36] <DBO> Sorry about the spam
[03:36] <DBO> all done
[03:37] <sris> brendonjt, yeah, just hope i could work around it. but now i cant boot ubuntu at all ;)
[03:37] <kevinG> the banhammer has spoken
[03:37] <sris> so nothing changes except my cd readers all screwd up ;)
[03:37] <h00t> Roger_The_Bum: ... ok i actualy saw a package w/ name 'vnc4viewer' which is what i need and i installed it ... do you know how can i make tsclient use 'that' instead of old version by default
[03:38] <brendonjt> sris:  yikes  that bad  hmmm  try  switching the  cabels  you might have to reinstall grub  someone  here might have another suggestion
[03:38] <brendonjt> jaminpotato:  they are releasing edgy  that early  in the game>
[03:39] <sris> brendonjt, yeah guess i'll have to mix it up a little. that's why i asked about the install prompting grub stuff, because it all seemed to happen so fast and automagic
[03:39] <Tom__> I have Dapper installed as a desktop, not a server. Can I still run a simple ftp server on it?
[03:39] <billfur_> did the latest updates break flac in  amarok?
[03:39] <billfur_> (or it did for me, does anyone know why?)
[03:39] <Jamminpotato> DBO, what was all that banning for
[03:40] <duane> anyone know how to turn off whatever makes a horizontal scroll make web browsers go back a bunch of pages?
[03:40] <DBO> Jamminpotato, all vulnerable to an exploit, if you look you see they are being forwarded to #ubuntu-ops (I messed up there, sent them to wrong channel actually).  We want them to fix their system as they are vulnerable
[03:40] <Jamminpotato> how can you tell and what exploit is it?
[03:40] <DBO> Jamminpotato, we do provide instructions on what to do and how to fix things
[03:41] <DBO> !exploit > Jamminpotato
[03:41] <Jamminpotato> ubotu always knows
[03:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about always knows - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:41] <brendonjt> sris:  i know what you mean  on that one,  umm
[03:42] <h00t> how can i use shared folders on a windows computer on my network ... do i have to install samba
[03:42] <_miko> which java should i download RPM, x64, x64RPM, self extract
[03:42] <sris> brendonjt, i just hope i dont destroy my windows-install because then im screwd too ;)
[03:42] <Flannel> h00t: yeah, basically.
[03:42] <wweasel> h00t: I do believe it should work out of the box. Places > Network Servers
[03:43] <Flannel> !tell h00t about samba
[03:43] <wweasel> Not sure on that one. Am I wrong Flannel?
[03:43] <_miko> are they all the same?
[03:43] <Flannel> _miko: why not use the one from the repositories?
[03:43] <Flannel> wweasel: I imagine he wants to share back and forth between win/ubuntu
[03:43] <_miko> how do i use it?
[03:43] <Flannel> !tell _miko about java
[03:43] <wweasel> Does anyone know why Places automatically puts a link to ~/Documents if that folder exists, and how I can turn it off?
[03:44] <brendonjt> sris:  umm you can boot of your windows xp disk  and  go to the repair consol and type fdisk .mbr  and that will make it back to the default  ms config
[03:44] <h00t> Flannel: damn it works out of the box ... yayy
[03:44] <h00t> wweasel: : damn it works out of the box ... yayy
[03:44] <sris> brendonjt, oh, i didnt know that, thanks
[03:44] <smick> I'm getting an error installing updates. Some never install, probably because I tried to fix either compiz or freemind at some point. The error is this:  Some updates require the removal of further software.    But if you want two way communication, you'll need samba
[03:45] <wweasel> Flannel: Do you have any idea about my problem with the Places menu auto-adding ~/Documents
[03:45] <h00t> i'm not sharing anything w/ my girfriend ... just using her system as storage for my Ghost in the shell rips... her system is top notch (rich parents)
[03:45] <Flannel> wweasel: No idea, I don't deal with gnome often
[03:46] <Tom__> FTP server. Can I run one on a Dapper desktop without installing Dapper as a server?
[03:46] <Guitarhero11> is there a way to reinstall gnome, i screwed it up toubleshooting something and now gnome terminal is gone and i cant reinstall it
[03:46] <Guitarhero11> i have xfce terminal
[03:46] <brendonjt> sris:  that ok,  just keep trying  to  install  ubuntu
[03:46] <h00t> also ... can someone tell me where can i see file associations ... ie i want to uninstall bittorent client and have everything handled by azureus
[03:47] <BlueEagle> tom__: yes. you can simply install ie. proftpd
[03:47] <wweasel> hoot: Just right click on it and select Open With or the equivalent. That way you can set default.