[08:48] <ke_> ke@yndebaws:/media$ sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/windows -t ntfs
[08:48] <ke_> mount: special device /dev/hdb1 does not exist
[08:48] <sambearpoet> Thanks y'all
[08:48] <Determinist> anyone here that's managed to make a gdesklet that places notifications work?
[08:48] <ushooz> robotgeek, it is so frustrating to get a nic that does not work
[08:49] <robotgeek> ushooz: same problem, powerbook here too
[08:49] <mobus> ok all mounted thanks
[08:49] <soundray> ke_, what makes you so sure?
[08:49] <ompaul>  ke_ do this "sudo fdisk -l" and put the output in paste.ubuntulinux.nl  i.e. do not paste here
[08:50] <weob> what's the equiv of netstumbler for ubunut?
[08:50] <ushooz> robotgeek, I have a Toshiba laptop with a internal B that works. But I am about to go on a long flight and do not want to lug that beast with me so installed Ubuntu on my Powerbook
[08:50] <EasterSunshine> lol...Totem could not start up: no reason.
[08:50] <gary__> question about Skype and breezy....... Have it working fine except I can't hear it ring when initiating a call or recieving a call. Can anyone help?
[08:50] <ke_> http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4496
[08:51] <ushooz> robotgeek, my missing link was wireless on linux side
[08:51] <adriyel> gary__, have you checked options in Skype regarding sound events?
[08:51] <gary__> yes  event sound is greyed out
[08:51] <robotgeek> ushooz: ahh, look at the wireless wiki. i added a link to a site with versions numbers and all that.
[08:51] <ccc_> anyone running ati radeon 9500?
[08:51] <ompaul> ke_, emm /dev/hda1   *           1        1660    13333918+   7  HPFS/NTFS  <<< I think this may have something to do with the problem :)
[08:52] <ke_> Huh?
[08:52] <gary__> everything else works GREAT
[08:52] <weob> holy crap that server was fast - 3mb/s down :D have to remember the name
[08:52] <zack_> im trying to get Java Runtime Environment, should i get the "Linux RPM (self-extracting file)"
[08:52] <DShepherd> zack_: get the deb is possible
[08:52] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell zack_ about javadeb
[08:52] <EasterSunshine> zack_: you should look at the wiki
[08:52] <DShepherd> if*
[08:53] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell zack_ about java
[08:53] <weob> i think there is a security issue in firefox if i may state it
[08:53] <weob> not sure if its specific to ubuntu
[08:53] <ushooz> robotgeek, I think the wiki is what I used. I was on ubuntuforms with a large list pulled up on their demo iMac. I kept going back and forth with cards reading revision numbers until I found one that was said to work. It works like a champ too :)
[08:53] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell zack_ about javadebs
[08:53] <ompaul> ke_, SFS is that Self-certifying File System?
[08:53] <zack_> ill check it out
[08:53] <robotgeek> ushooz: which one?
[08:53] <Sionide> trying to get midi files to play
[08:53] <Sionide> "bash: sfxload: command not found
[08:53] <Sionide> "
[08:53] <Sionide> getting that error :s can anyone help?
[08:54] <ke_> I dunno.. It's just a normal ntfs I guess
[08:54] <Sionide> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736 <-- what i'm trying to do
[08:54] <ke_> I use it from my windows partition
[08:54] <gary__> adriyel...   check boxes are all checked for sound events ,  but headphne setting on recieve is greyed out.
[08:54] <ompaul> ke_, your partition table does not think so
[08:54] <adriyel> gary__, sound really isn't my knack in Linux, sorry. My experience is localized in a different area, however I can direct you to a webpage
[08:54] <adriyel> ubotu tell gary__ about sound
[08:55] <ke_> Hmm
[08:55] <weob> anyone end up downgrading to ubuntu hoary to run wine 0.9 ?
[08:55] <ompaul> ke_, read the output you put on in pastebin
[08:55] <ke_> Yeah, I know
[08:55] <ke_> Dunno why
[08:56] <ushooz> robotgeek, DLink DWL-G630 Version: C2 Revision 3.01
[08:56] <soundray> ompaul, ke_: The error is about the device though, and not the filesystem...
[08:56] <robotgeek> ushooz: atheros
[08:56] <joosep> is gnome-look.org down?
[08:56] <ushooz> robotgeek, yep
[08:56] <ke_> Crap
[08:56] <robotgeek> ushooz: my friend got unlucky, he got a broadcom coaster
[08:57] <ke_> Gotta' backup everything and format it
[08:57] <ushooz> robotgeek, can not return it?
[08:57] <weob> how do i get firefox to use konqueror instead of nautilus?
[08:57] <soundray> ke_, how is hdb wired up?
[08:57] <ke_> Using kubuntu now - but I got it mounted while I was using gnome
[08:57] <robotgeek> ushooz: we returned it :)
[08:57] <ke_> Normal I guess
[08:57] <ke_> Hmm
[08:57] <ke_> Brb
[08:58] <ompaul> ke_, that does not make sense
[08:58] <ompaul> ahh
[08:58] <soundray> ke_, same cable as hda? Both disks jumpered as master/slave correctly?
[08:58] <b1n0ry> ok, i think my system's dying and i just installed it :(
[08:58] <ompaul> soundray, ke_ gone
[08:59] <sewoyl> :( still no wifi
[08:59] <ompaul> soundray,  bets for cable select?
[08:59] <weob> lol why would you want to dev wine on windows?
[08:59] <soundray> ompaul, :)
[08:59] <weob> maybe for older windows maybe.. but seems silly
[08:59] <sewoyl> does the fact that my wifi card is eth1 instead of wlan0 meanyhting
[08:59] <sewoyl> mean anything*
[08:59] <weob> yes
[08:59] <weob> it should see it as wlan0
[09:00] <soundray> ompaul, remember keiron?
[09:00] <sewoyl> but gnome says "wireless network adapter" in the config window
[09:00] <ushooz> sewoyl, nope. My Toshiba has its wireless as eth1 and wired as eth0
[09:00] <robotgeek> sewoyl: not necessary, it doesn't matter
[09:00] <b1n0ry> i am using the synaptic package manager to install some stuff. apache2 installed great. i went to install mysql and it asked me to configure postfix. i made a mistake, hit the 'back' button, the configuration window hung up so i had to force quit.
[09:00] <b1n0ry> now, the little "preparing packages" bar has been moving back and forth for about 30 minutes
[09:00] <sewoyl> why am not able to ping my routers ?
[09:00] <sewoyl> is that related to my wifi problemes?
[09:00] <ompaul> soundray, remind me
[09:01] <b1n0ry> on "installing software" i'm afraid to bomb it out because i don't want to really screw something up
[09:01] <cycom> ushooz: what kind of toshiba?
[09:01] <sewoyl> ushooz, my acer too
[09:01] <robotgeek> b1n0ry: bomb it , you could go over it again
[09:01] <soundray> ompaul, guy swearing at Linux when he had his HD hooked up with a CD-ROM ribbon.
[09:01] <ushooz> cycom, 1415-S173. Old beast :)
[09:01] <sewoyl> soundray, :)
[09:01] <ompaul> that was one of the lesser known better ones
[09:02] <b1n0ry> robotgeek,  is there something similar to the windows task manager that lets you force down hung apps?
[09:02] <ushooz> sewoyl, try iwconfig and make sure those setting are correct
[09:02] <cycom> ushooz: I had a problem with my wireless being eth0 and my wired being eth2, but then if there was some random problem with the acpi and I had to reboot, it would be eth0 wired and wireless eth1 till I rebooted again.  I updated a lot of stuff and now it's eth1 for wireless and eth0 for wired
[09:02] <robotgeek> b1n0ry: there's a panel applet called force quit
[09:02] <sunshine82> how do i set up xawtv
[09:02] <cycom> ushooz: I have a toshiba M45-265
[09:02] <robotgeek> b1n0ry: plus, you can always ps -ef | grep <appname> , get the pid and kill it
[09:03] <sewoyl> ushooz, it seems correct
[09:03] <cycom> ushooz: did you have to do any funky stuff with acpi on the old beast?
[09:03] <sunshine82> when i type xawtv -noxv i get v4l2: open /dev/video0: No such device
[09:03] <sunshine82>  how do i fix this
[09:03] <soundray> sunshine82, insert a PCI TV card? :)
[09:03] <zzyber> i have installed rufus bittorrent downloader but i cant get it to automaticlu load a torrent when i click the tottent link on a webpage then choose open with /user/bin/rufus? When i do that rufus starts empty. What can i do to fix this?
[09:03] <tarheelcoxn> b1n0ry: killall -9 <appname>
[09:03] <ushooz> cycom, acpi does not really work with it :(
[09:03] <b1n0ry> robotgeek, thanks
[09:04] <ushooz> cycom, only in limited fashion
[09:04] <tarheelcoxn> b1n0ry: saves a step from what robotgeek said
[09:04] <sewoyl> ushooz, hmm do I have to specify the wifi access point as "default gateway" or the wired router 'beneath' it ?
[09:04] <sunshine82> soundray how do i check if there is one install
[09:04] <clb_> heeelp! I rebuilt <IP_ADDRESS> kernel and I now get these errors: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4497
[09:04] <ushooz> sewoyl, depends on how you have things set up.
[09:05] <john-> hi newbish perosn here, about to attempt to install ubuntu, how straight forward is it?
[09:05] <john-> only experience i have is installing fedora
[09:05] <sewoyl> my setup is     WAN==ROUTER==WIFI ACCESS POINT==LAPTOP
[09:05] <john-> that was pretty easy
[09:05] <cycom> ushooz: I had a problem with my wireless dying randomly.  I threw acpi=noirq pci=usepirqmask irqpoll on the kernel options and it works now
[09:05] <fredforfaen> anybody here got cedega working on breezy?
[09:05] <tarheelcoxn> john-: it's pretty darn easy
[09:05] <ushooz> sewoyl, more than likely the router but it all depends if your access point is acting as a router itself as well
[09:05] <sunshine82> soundray i got this computer of a friend so that wasnt a good answer to give to me for one i dont know where to look to find a pci tv and i dont know what a pci card is
[09:05] <tarheelcoxn> john-: have you tried the liveCD?
[09:05] <john-> yup
[09:05] <john-> i liked it
[09:06] <ushooz> cycom, sheesh. I got lucky then :) I do not have to do any switches :)
[09:06] <john-> i'm gonna dual boot, already got a partition set aside
[09:06] <sewoyl> john-, partition editing is just different than fc4 but if you have the smallest idea of what oure doing it'll be okay
[09:06] <pppoe_dude> hi all, is there a way to map special keys to special characters? like say on a laptop, Fn + q to map to a sigma character
[09:06] <soundray> sunshine82, you clearly expect that computer to be receiving a video signal of some sort.
[09:06] <sewoyl> ushooz, no its actually a router with any routing/dhcp disabled
[09:06] <john-> i'm not totally comfortable with partitioning, but i know about it
[09:06] <cycom> ushooz: the fun part was that the wireless would also die if I plugged in my USB mouse or GPS.  Wardriving was tough. :)
[09:06] <sewoyl> ushooz, so basicallywifi router turned access point
[09:06] <soundray> sunshine82, you generally need specialized hardware for that kind of thing.
[09:06] <cycom> ushooz: but now it's all good
[09:06] <tarheelcoxn> john-: is this a simple desktop system for yourself?
[09:06] <sewoyl> ushooz, works fine in windows
[09:06] <john-> yes
[09:07] <pppoe_dude> or even shift-something
[09:07] <tarheelcoxn> john-: you're not trying to dual-boot, are you?
[09:07] <ushooz> b1n0ry, under application/system/tools is System Monitor... if you like task manager style killing of task that is it. Or if you want to me command line geek get to know ps -aux and kill and or top :)
[09:07] <john-> ...yes i am
[09:07] <john-> i need windows for games :p
[09:07] <tarheelcoxn> john-: ahh... then read the instructions in the wiki
[09:07] <sewoyl> john-, just remember 'happy face' = partition is not going to be formatted, 'skull' = partition will be formatted
[09:07] <jgomo3> Greetings
[09:07] <jgomo3> I need a little help
[09:07] <ushooz> sewoyl, I would do ipconfig /all in windows and make sure your linux setting match
[09:07] <jgomo3> It's a laptop wich doesn't setup correctly the eth0 interface. Only assignateit an int6 addres but not the inet addres.  This is shown by ip addr show eth0:
[09:07] <AzO> what'is the chan fr ???
[09:07] <jgomo3> 2: eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast qlen 1000
[09:07] <jgomo3>     link/ether 00:00:86:56:17:bc brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[09:07] <cycom> sewoyl: HAHAHA! I had forgotten that!
[09:08] <sewoyl> ushooz, thats a good idea thanks I'll try that!
[09:08] <jgomo3>     inet6 fe80::200:86ff:fe56:17bc/64 scope link
[09:08] <jgomo3>        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
[09:08] <sewoyl> cycom, :)
[09:08] <robotgeek> jgomo3: don't paste in here
[09:08] <cycom> jgomo3: is this for wireless?
[09:08] <jgomo3> the /etc/network/interface is pasted in http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4495
[09:08] <pppoe_dude> or is there a way to setup additional key binding?
[09:08] <AzO> what'is the chan fr ???
[09:08] <sunshine82> soundray but where do i look in device manager where....
[09:08] <tarheelcoxn> jgomo3: paste in #flood or somewhere else
[09:08] <soundray> sunshine82, normally that would be an expansion card that fits into a slot on the mainboard.
[09:08] <jgomo3> robotgeek: sorry
[09:08] <sunshine82> soundray i dont know
[09:08] <sewoyl> cycom, it's not stated anywhere on the screen ... but yeah pretty easy to figure out
[09:08] <AdrienDu54> hello
[09:08] <jgomo3> cycom: No,
[09:08] <sewoyl> AzMoo, french?
[09:09] <AdrienDu54> dites moi
[09:09] <_Dez> hey guys
[09:09] <sunshine82> soundray that sound like inside the cpu i dont go in there is there no way of checkin in the device manger without goin in there
[09:09] <tarheelcoxn> !fr
[09:09] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr et #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[09:09] <_Dez> anyone here know where i can pickup a ubuntu H2 usb hd?
[09:09] <cycom> jgomo3: you sure the cable's good?
[09:09] <soundray> sunshine82, look at the back of it. Is there a socket for an antenna?
[09:09] <AdrienDu54> c'est quoi c'est adresse svp ? elle correspond a koi sur un reseau ? <IP_ADDRESS>
[09:10] <tarheelcoxn> ubotu: tell sewoyl about fr
[09:10] <nalioth> _Dez: follow the link from tomshardware
[09:10] <sewoyl> AdrienDu54, en franais c sur #ubuntu-fr
[09:10] <tarheelcoxn> err
[09:10] <tarheelcoxn> sorry sewoyl
[09:10] <sewoyl> no problem :)
[09:10] <jgomo3> cycom: Yes, the lights green. On win is working correctly, but the idea is to overwrite win with the ubuntu
[09:10] <tarheelcoxn> right idea... wrong nick
[09:10] <Khaaaaan> Damn you apple! Why won't you make a Linux client of your iPod software!
[09:11] <cycom> jgomo3: are you on that machine right now?
[09:11] <AdrienDu54> oui sewoyl je suis sur ubuntu
[09:11] <jgomo3> No
[09:11] <ushooz> Khaaaaan, what do you need?
[09:11] <cycom> Khaaaaan: because apple sucks?
[09:11] <AdrienDu54> j'ai confitgur un serveur web
[09:11] <sewoyl> it should probably say 'va sur #ubuntu-fr' (not va a ...)
[09:11] <sewoyl> but whatever :D
[09:11] <AdrienDu54> c'est l'adresse avec laquelle j'accede  mon site
[09:11] <cycom> jgomo3: ok, try dhclient eth0 and see if it snags and address
[09:11] <adriyel> oh good lord
[09:11] <jgomo3> cycom: but is at my right side
[09:11] <AdrienDu54> si toi tu tapes cette adresse dans ton exploreur internet est ce que tu tombes sur mon site?
[09:12] <sewoyl> AdrienDu54, il faut aller sur le canal #ubuntu-fr
[09:12] <adriyel> I hate it when its primetime in Europe, I don't understand half the convo's.
[09:12] <cycom> jgomo3: I figured :)
[09:12] <AdrienDu54> ah pardon
[09:12] <AdrienDu54> loll j'avais pas capt
[09:12] <ushooz> Khaaaaan, gtkpod, Banshee, SharpMusic
[09:12] <AdrienDu54> c en anglais
[09:12] <ubuntu_> 'lo everyone - could use a bit of help installing/configuring if anyone's available?
[09:12] <sunshine82> soundray i think so is it a green hole
[09:12] <sewoyl> yes it's in english here :D
[09:12] <adriyel> parle in anglais PLEASE
[09:12] <AdrienDu54> sorry bye be
[09:12] <Khaaaaan> ushooz: Yea i need a replacement for itunes... well actually ephpod on windows
[09:12] <ushooz> Khaaaaan, gtkpod and Banshee allow you to transfer songs to the ipod  SharpMusic allows you to buy songs
[09:12] <traveller> i have problems starting mod_rewrite, the module is there, i've linked the module in mods-enabled, but it seems nothing's changed
[09:12] <Khaaaaan> ushooz: How about formatting and firmware updates?
[09:12] <sunshine82> soundray it has an antenna lookin symbol nexy to it
[09:13] <soundray> sunshine82, it should be more like a barrel that protrudes about half an inch.
[09:13] <sewoyl> i like Banshee, looks like a new rhythmbox to me
[09:13] <ushooz> Khaaaaan, no firmware updates.
[09:13] <_Dez> nalioth i cant seem to find a link to buy the usb drive
[09:13] <cycom> adriyel: jgomo3 did it get an IP?
[09:13] <ushooz> Khaaaaan, should be able to format. I have never had to. Plus I have several Macs so use iTunes :)
[09:13] <cycom> er.. not adriyel
[09:14] <cycom> adriyel: how many languages do you speak/understand
[09:14] <Khaaaaan> hmmm
[09:14] <Khaaaaan> Is banshee free?
[09:14] <ushooz> yep
[09:14] <Khaaaaan> It looks pretty money..
[09:14] <Pablo> o.O
[09:14] <ubuntu_> ok, so I start with can anyone see this?
[09:14] <adriyel> cycom, I am a student an ancient written languages, but I do speak/understand a number of modern languages, not in any fluent manner however
[09:14] <ushooz> has lots of depends
[09:14] <nalioth> _Dez: it's on the last page of the writeup at the bottom of the article (not the bottom of the page)
[09:15] <sunshine82> soundray is a barrell like a  parrell point
[09:15] <sewoyl> Khaaaaan, free as in free speech my friend!
[09:15] <adriyel> cycom, I read/write latin, hebrew, greek, aramaic, arabic, blah blah.
[09:15] <chrisbudden14> With libdvdcss2 installed, I cannot play unencrypted dvd's and can play commercial encrypted dvd's.  When I remove libdvd2css I can play unencrypted.
[09:15] <adriyel> cycom, I also learned Tolkien's languages as a hobby
[09:15] <tarheelcoxn> ubuntu_: the installer is pretty straight-forward
[09:15] <sewoyl> adriyel, in prato condam rana conpexit bovem (or something like that)
[09:15] <anathema_> okay im back wiht the problem here
[09:15] <tarheelcoxn> ubuntu_: just jump in with both feet
[09:15] <Khaaaaan> hmmm...
[09:15] <anathema_> i get this error when trying to open .wmv files.. http://pastebin.com/428177
[09:15] <soundray> sunshine82, don't know what you mean.
[09:15] <adriyel> sewoyl, WHAT did you just try to say in latin? lol.
[09:15] <tarheelcoxn> ubuntu_: after you've made a backup, of course
[09:15] <anathema_> can i supress this error somehow?
[09:15] <anathema_> anyone?
[09:15] <adriyel> I recognize the forms, but not the vocab.
[09:16] <cycom> adriyel: if you know latin, why do you have so much trouble with french then? :)
[09:16] <ubuntu_> tried installer - failed 3x during install, finally got it installed, shell never came up. I know next to nada about linux. trying to install version 5.04
[09:16] <sewoyl> adriyel, hmm something like in the sunny field the frog stared at the beef
[09:16] <cycom> adriyel: semper ubi sub ubi :)
[09:16] <ubuntu_> using live version for now
[09:16] <sewoyl> adriyel, from that Lafontaine story (tale?)
[09:16] <tarheelcoxn> cycom: thaaaaat's aawwwwwwwful
[09:16] <adriyel> always where (below?) where
[09:16] <sewoyl> cycom, hmm latin is not french
[09:16] <adriyel> understanding a language and memorizing its dictionary is another story
[09:16] <adriyel> I learn many languages, I don't memorize two of them :P
[09:17] <tarheelcoxn> adriyel: "Always wear underwear" (horribly massacred)
[09:17] <cycom> sewoyl: French: romance language. based on latin.
[09:17] <sewoyl> cycom, thank you for telling me, my mother tongue is french
[09:17] <thrush> damn normans
[09:17] <nvez> ubuntu_, corrupt CD?
[09:17] <chrisbudden14> anyone got an idea?
[09:17] <cycom> tarheelcoxn: actually, it's always where under where literally
[09:17] <nvez> Plus 5.10 is out.
[09:17] <b1n0ry> ushooz,  i am pretty good with the command line. i've been working with linux for many years, but not much with x. i didn't know if there was something special that needed to be done.
[09:17] <sewoyl> cycom, and im not sure its romance
[09:17] <adriyel> tarheelcoxn, wow.
[09:17] <adriyel> my latin teacher just croaked.
[09:18] <_Dez> thanks nalioth
[09:18] <ubuntu_> doubt it's corrupt cd - got 5 diff ones mailed to me and I've tried all 5.  can update to 5.10 after the install - that part's working - prob is I can't get gnome and stuff to fully install.
[09:18] <tarheelcoxn> adriyel: did she not have a sense of humor?
[09:18] <adriyel> the written form of the languages is in particular my specialty...
[09:18] <adriyel> tarheelcoxn, actually she was the funniest teacher I've ever had
[09:18] <cycom> adriyel: I'm sure my silly 'semper ubi sub ubi' thing made your teacher turn over in her grave
[09:18] <adriyel> she just hated dirty latin
[09:18] <sewoyl> cycom, its roman language
[09:19] <adriyel> Romance Languages, bleh, they get boring
[09:19] <adriyel> all the bloody same except for English, which has german constructs
[09:19] <chrisbudden14> dvd playback anyone?
[09:19] <cycom> chrisbudden14: what?
[09:19] <jgomo3> cycom: didn't work
[09:19] <adriyel> ubotu tell chrisbudden14 about restricted formats
[09:19] <bonez> Can someone help me installing winex EXACTLY how to? I can't get it to work =(
[09:19] <tarheelcoxn> ubuntu_: what do you mean by "can't get gnome and stuff to fully install?" What's giving your errors? synaptic?
[09:19] <cycom> jgomo3: hrm...
[09:19] <|sam|> hi, in xfce4 you can set a frame on the desktop, so you can choose the area windows can fill, i wanna do the same with gnome, anybody know how?
[09:20] <chrisbudden14> i cant play UNencrypted dvd's with libdvdcss2 installed.
[09:20] <jgomo3> cycom: in the beginig lines of the dhclient were: sit0:   unknown hardware address type 776
[09:20] <sewoyl> |sam|, probably in gconf if anywhere
[09:20] <sled> hi
[09:20] <ubuntu_> can't bring up synaptic even.  I get command prompt and nothing else. remember I know next to nada about linux - ls is one of the few commands I'm good with, tried using man on some of the stuff I found but nothing led to the shell. looks like cshell prompt btw (I had a sco class years ago)
[09:20] <sewoyl> |sam|, oops doesnt seem to be the name
[09:21] <sewoyl> |sam|, configuration editor
[09:21] <cycom> jgomo3: this sounds like what was going on with my wireless (I know you're using wired) when the interface was getting all screwy due to issues with acpi and irqs and such
[09:21] <nvez> ubuntu_, try "apt-get install gnome" from shell?
[09:21] <tarheelcoxn> ubuntu_: it's a bash prompt
[09:21] <tarheelcoxn> you likely have a problem with Xorg
[09:21] <sunshine82> soundray u said the antenna connnection is like a barrell i was askin is a barrelll
[09:21] <sunshine82> soundray is a barrell like a  parrell pont
[09:21] <nvez> hmm
[09:21] <soundray> sunshine82, I don't know what a "parrell pont" is.
[09:21] <ubuntu_> thanks tarheel - and nvez..  tried apt-get install gnome, got fail error with some side instructions to follow (apt-get -f?) tried those, tried apt-get install gnome again, nada.
[09:21] <nvez> ubuntu_, why don't you try a network install?
[09:22] <ubuntu_> that's a possibility nvez - issue at hand is right now I've got no other way of getting out than here, and hdd is partitioned for winblows.
[09:22] <Khaaaaan> Is there a way to minimize X-chat to the system tray?
[09:22] <|sam|> sewoyl, i looked there :o( couldnt see anything like it
[09:22] <soundray> sunshine82, TV cards typically have a coaxial antenna connector.
[09:22] <nvez> ubuntu_, your best bet would be a network install.
[09:22] <|sam|> i will keep on googling, just thought i would check just incase ;oP
[09:22] <ubuntu_> wanna start me on the walkthru for network install? any particular url I need to hit to get it?
[09:22] <soundray> sunshine82, that connector protrudes from the backplate circa .5 in.
[09:23] <bonez> Can someone help me installing winex EXACTLY how to? I can't get it to work
[09:23] <thrush> ubuntu_: unable to sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop?
[09:23] <nvez> Do you have a CD burner?
[09:23] <ubuntu_> and will it down me on live version? yah, got cd burner.
[09:23] <moo> i cannot find java-package from any repositories for breezy. do you have idea where I could get it?
[09:23] <soundray> sunshine82, it is round and fairly large, compared to eg. the mouse socket.
[09:23] <moo> i need to install jre 1.5
[09:23] <ubuntu_> did sudo apt-get thrush. even did sudo -s to start at root. no workee.
[09:23] <|sam|> moo, download it from suns website
[09:24] <moo> sam: i have jdk bin, but i need make-dpkg command to make .deb from it
[09:24] <ubuntu_> man you guys are helpful. this beats the hell out of my old dalnet days.  thanks for all this so far :)
[09:24] <moo> make-jpkg is in java-package
[09:24] <jgomo3> cycom: and how did you resolved that? (if that's the case)
[09:24] <nvez> ubuntu_..
[09:25] <nvez> What worked for me is a mini ISO image
[09:25] <cycom> jgomo3: yeah, I passed acpi=noirq pci=usepirqmask irqpoll as kernel options
[09:25] <sewoyl> |sam|, i think I managed to do that someday to use a macOSX like dock
[09:25] <nvez> Which works 100% like a CD installer, gui friendly, etc.
[09:25] <cycom> jgomo3: dunno if that'll help though
[09:25] <nvez> I got it from
[09:25] <tarheelcoxn> ubuntu_: linux for human beings, after all :)
[09:25] <|sam|> sewoyl, yeah i want it for the same reason :)
[09:26] <nvez> ubuntu_, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[09:26] <|sam|> moo, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70428 shows how to install jre1.5 from scratch
[09:26] <sewoyl> |sam|, but I finally found out that gnome's two bars layout is the most intuitive :)
[09:26] <msieradzki> is there such hint like (DONT USER DRAPER yet) ? (like with breezy)
[09:26] <nvez> That's the miniboot disk, download, burn, and then insert in CD, boot it, and follow instructions.  (not gentoo like installer. :)
[09:26] <ubuntu_> q on network install - is possible to do from the live version without crashing it?
[09:26] <josh__> does anyone know how to configure/install a wireless card
[09:27] <nvez> josh__:  Read about NDISWRAPPER on Wikipedia.
[09:27] <josh__> ok
[09:27] <clb_> anyone know about alsa? I get this at boot:  * /etc/init.d/alsa-utils: Warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error message 'alsactl: set_control:894: warning: name mismatch (External Amplifier/Headphone Jack Sense) for control #41
[09:28] <clb_> and then I'm dropped into shell as root... not running gdm
[09:28] <john-> right, here i go
[09:28] <weob> anyone use dvdshrink in wine?
[09:28] <|sam|> sewoyl, yeah i will prolly end up using them again, but it would be nice to run like this for a little while
[09:28] <nvez> weob, I think a dvdshrink for ubuntu exists.
[09:28] <r0d> dapper is great..
[09:28] <nvez> With no need of wine.
[09:28] <weob> really
[09:28] <weob> that would be sweet
[09:28] <|sam|> r0d, what are the main differences atm between dapper and breezy?
[09:28] <tarheelcoxn> ubuntu_: you want to burn a minimal netinst CD and boot from that
[09:29] <r0d> nvez, what? never heard of that
[09:29] <nvez> Hmm.. last time on SuSE I saw that.
[09:29] <nvez> Doesn't look to be there on Ubuntu.
[09:29] <jgomo3> cycom: Hay man, i'll try that. Thanx a lot man
[09:29] <|sam|> r0d, is hotplugging usb sticks working?
[09:29] <r0d> i use to use dvdshrink w/ wine
[09:29] <ubuntu_> kk. can do - prob is I'm on live right now, and the live cd's in my burner :P
[09:29] <weob> i will do that
[09:29] <weob> cuz i love that windoz program
[09:30] <nvez> ubuntu_,  I don't think it'll crash or anything..
[09:30] <nvez> Don't quote me on that.
[09:30] <r0d> ok |sam| no 100 on that. when i went to those repositories, i had million upgrades. so i came to the conclusion its more aggressive w/ upgrading
[09:30] <ubuntu_> gonna cut outta here - thanks for the help so far. I'll do the burn and attempt install. If fails, I'll restart live and holler here :)
[09:30] <ubuntu_> be well y'all!
[09:30] <nvez> Okay, see you in a bit, ubuntu_
[09:30] <cycom> jgomo3: good luck
[09:31] <r0d> |sam|, i've seen it working, yes
[09:31] <johnhand> #ubuntu on irc.freenode.net
[09:31] <r0d> |sam|, you have to check out the slashdot article on H2
[09:31] <johnhand> Uhm, HI
[09:31] <johnhand> I am in trouble
[09:31] <r0d> AWESOME
[09:31] <|sam|> r0d, i will check it out
[09:32] <johnhand> I used a sources.list to get mp3, and it crapped everything up
[09:32] <r0d> johnhand, spit the question out bro
[09:32] <johnhand> Anyone know where I can get an original?
[09:32] <weob> acidrip is the name of the linux native dvdshrinklike prog
[09:32] <nvez> johnhand, What version are you running
[09:32] <weob> im trying it out now
[09:32] <bonez_> Can someone help me install winex and cedega? I got problems and I dunno how to solve it...
[09:32] <nvez> I could private message you mine.
[09:32] <nvez> (Breezy Badger, 5.10)
[09:33] <johnhand> that would be great thanx
[09:33] <|sam|> bonez_, what problems?
[09:33] <nvez> Okay.
[09:33] <sunshine82> soundray i cant see anything as big as my mouse socket it not there does that mean i cant use gnomew meeting either im sure i was able to use my webcam when i was windows so my computer must have some vidoe capacity
[09:33] <bonez_> |sam| I followed instructions on linux-gamers, but when I ran ~/.cvscedega or cvscedega command it wouldn
[09:34] <weob> is it me or does wine take longer to compile than a kernel?
[09:34] <bonez_> |sam| I followed instructions on linux-gamers, but when I ran ~/.cvscedega or cvscedega command it wouldn't function
[09:34] <sunshine82> soundray what about fixin v4l
[09:34] <weob> is that cuz it tries to compile some of the windiz kernel parts ? and its all bloated and the bloat makes the boat not float?
[09:34] <weob> try sudo ./cvscedega
[09:34] <bonez_> I was logged as su
[09:35] <bonez_> And it said no such file or directory
[09:35] <|sam|> bonez_; cedega comes as a .deb file so you install it as sudo dpkg -i cedega5.deb
[09:35] <|sam|> bones_; ahh cvs cedega, sorry i aint tried that :o/
[09:35] <bonez_> |sam| I use cvs
[09:36] <CTPAYC> i am having problams with synaptic having dead servers does anyone know where i can get a new updated repository list? msg me please :)
[09:36] <weob> sudo apt-get update
[09:36] <CTPAYC> ...
[09:36] <CTPAYC> no
[09:36] <CTPAYC> dead servers
[09:37] <weob> kill them~
[09:37] <CTPAYC> the standard repository fails
[09:37] <FJ_Sanchez> Hi, is anybody using SCIM or UIM?
[09:37] <GigaClon> what does your sorces.list look like?
[09:37] <GigaClon> sources.list
[09:37] <FJ_Sanchez> I want to input japanese in GTK and QT aplications but I don't use gnome or KDE
[09:37] <CTPAYC> can i post it here?
[09:37] <bonez_> Can someone help me compiling winex and cedega? I dunno what to choose to install..
[09:37] <GigaClon> no
[09:37] <GigaClon> !pastbin
[09:37] <ubotu> GigaClon: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[09:37] <GigaClon> !pastebin
[09:37] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[09:37] <GigaClon> there
[09:37] <Paradoxx> !mdf
[09:37] <ubotu> Paradoxx: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:38] <bonez_> !help
[09:38] <bonez_> -.-
[09:38] <weob> lol giga
[09:38] <soundray> sunshine82, okay, if your video hardware is a web cam, then you don't need a TV card.
[09:38] <Paradoxx> anyone have any idea how i can convert a .mdf image to a .iso?
[09:38] <GigaClon> no
[09:38] <Ophiocus> interesting
[09:38] <ulaas> Paradoxx, rename the file..
[09:38] <Paradoxx> ulaas: thats all?
[09:38] <ulaas> Paradoxx, i am not joking...
[09:39] <bonez_> !cedega
[09:39] <ubotu> cedega is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page, or #cedega http://www.franskcorner.org/
[09:39] <Paradoxx> ......
[09:39] <soundray> sunshine82, xawtv is normally used to watch TV, but you're right, it works for web cams, too, if they are v4l compliant.
[09:39] <ulaas> Paradoxx, try and see for yourself
[09:39] <Digis> Paradoxx, if mdf is alchohol 120% format, if U will convert it to iso, it may not work correctly
[09:39] <bonez_> !winex
[09:39] <ubotu> bonez_: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:39] <weob> wine: error while loading shared libraries: libwine.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[09:39] <|sam|> CTPAYC; http://www.psychocats.net/linux/sources.php  has upto date list of repos
[09:39] <weob> i got this error at the end of the install progress
[09:39] <bonez_> Can someone help me compiling winex and cedega? I dunno what to choose to install..
[09:39] <sunshine82> soundray when i type xawtv -noxv i get v4l2: open /dev/video0: No such device
[09:39] <CTPAYC> ?
[09:39] <soundray> sunshine82, what you need to do now is find out the make, model and chipset of the web cam and see whether there is a Linux driver for it.
[09:39] <CTPAYC> weird function
[09:40] <bonez_> !cedega
[09:40] <ubotu> [cedega]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://cedegawiki.sweetleafstudios.com/index.php?title=Main_Page, or #cedega http://www.franskcorner.org/
[09:40] <weob> !wine ?
[09:40] <Paradoxx> it didn't work...
[09:40] <bonez_> !wine
[09:40] <Paradoxx> Digis: yea i kno its the alchohol format
[09:41] <soundray> sunshine82, I take it your web cam is plugged into a USB socket.
[09:41] <sunshine82> soundray ive done all that already the driver is broken ive emailed the provider of the driver  they havent respond yet is there no way of settin up the /dev/video without the driveer set up
[09:41] <sunshine82> soundray yea
[09:41] <Paradoxx> ulaas: your suggestion did not work..
[09:41] <Digis> Paradoxx, ant if U will convert it to iso, It may not work.
[09:41] <CTPAYC> so what is my problam with the list
[09:42] <Paradoxx> Digis: grr, i though i was finished with windows...
[09:42] <soundray> sunshine82, the driver is what interfaces with the camera hardware and provides the virtual file /dev/video0 .
[09:42] <GigaClon> link?
[09:42] <sunshine82> soundray ahhh
[09:42] <Obi-1> i have some problems with the root user
[09:42] <Paradoxx> now i have to go back to alchohol just to convert these back
[09:42] <Paradoxx> >.<
[09:42] <Ophiocus> ok so am not getting sound from a video cd but all other sound applications work fine
[09:42] <Ophiocus> any ideas?
[09:42] <Digis> Paradoxx, it may work, if that cd/dvd  image, has no super/duper/mega protections, like a lot of new games has
[09:42] <CTPAYC> hmmmm
[09:42] <CTPAYC> oh i got it thx
[09:42] <CTPAYC> lol
[09:42] <sunshine82> soundray well there nothin we can do then because we already went through the driver and found out it broken
[09:42] <GigaClon> make your application is using esd?
[09:42] <Paradoxx> its not anything like that
[09:42] <CTPAYC> someone msged me lol
[09:43] <Obi-1> how can i run x applications as root
[09:43] <soundray> sunshine82, there you go.
[09:43] <traveller> does anyone know how i can enable mod_rewrite in apache2?
[09:43] <GigaClon> use sudo
[09:43] <Obi-1> i tryed that but it gives me an error
[09:43] <sewoyl> Obi-1, from terminal sudi gedit   >will run gedit as root
[09:43] <sunshine82> soundray we try everything to get it to work but im still getiin an error when i try and make the driver
[09:43] <sewoyl> sudo of course
[09:43] <El_Che> Obi-1: from a console within your X: sudo applicationprogram
[09:44] <GigaClon> sudoku
[09:44] <soundray> sunshine82, what's the name of the driver?
[09:44] <Digis> Paradoxx, then try converting mdf->iso with alcohol, U know alcohol is a commercial tool, and mdf is specific alcohol format
[09:45] <Obi-1> there's no sudi
[09:45] <Digis> sorsis, I dont whink, that U will find any tools related to mdf
[09:45] <Paradoxx> i didn't kno mdf was a alchohol specific format
[09:45] <sunshine82> soundray ahh nw802-2.4
[09:45] <Paradoxx> sigh
[09:45] <Digis> :)
[09:45] <Paradoxx> kk m8, ty much
[09:46] <ulaas> Paradoxx, sorry dude. it did work for me before..
[09:46] <Paradoxx> damn propiotory formats and their restrictions
[09:46] <Paradoxx> thats y i moved to open source you kno
[09:46] <Paradoxx> >.<
[09:47] <Digis> :), well migrating is painfull and tricky thing
[09:47] <Digis> :)
[09:47] <bulio> I have a wireless router
[09:47] <bulio> with a wireless usb device
[09:47] <bulio> how would I allow ubuntu to connect to it?
[09:48] <soundray> sunshine82, it looks like this driver only works with 2.4 kernels.
[09:48] <bulio> just plug it in and boot up ubuntu live?
[09:48] <soundray> Ubuntu comes with 2.6 by default.
[09:48] <Knowerrors> anybody else here having problems accessing usb cameras in breezy?
[09:48] <jgomo3> cycom: is "live acpi=noirq pci=usepirqmask irqpoll"
[09:48] <Trackilizer> bulio, yes, should do the trick.
[09:48] <Trackilizer> Try it.
[09:49] <sunshine82> soundray why do u say that
[09:49] <soundray> sunshine82, your best bet is to buy a web cam from a retailer who will exchange it for you if you can't get it to work.
[09:49] <cycom> jgomo3: afaik.  I did that in my /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:49] <Digis> bulio, it depends, what device U have, search some info, maybe drivers in google
[09:49] <server_newbie> can anyone help me with ssh & keychain? I want to get rid of the passphrase requirment every time I login...
[09:50] <soundray> sunshine82, nw802-2.4-0.0.99 is the version on the Sourceforge page. 0.0.99 is the driver version, and 2.4 is the kernel version that it has been developed for.
[09:50] <bulio_Lap> so, do I just boot up ubuntu live, and it should detect my USB wireless thing?
[09:50] <server_newbie> I have keychain loaded and follow several of the how to's I have found and still pass phrase
[09:51] <bulio_Lap> huh?
[09:51] <Obi-1> nothing works.. it's not allowing me to iniciate gedit as root
[09:52] <soundray> sunshin82, all according to my personal interpretation.
[09:52] <thrice`> hrm...it doesn't like this OOo line in my sources.list
[09:52] <thrice`> deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/OOo2/
[09:52] <dell500> how do you view man pages outside of console?
[09:52] <soundray> sunshine82, umm, did you get your driver sources from CVS?
[09:52] <thrice`> is that wrong ?
[09:53] <DShepherd> dell500: yelp
[09:54] <thrice`> hrm...why is xchat 2.4.4-0 in backports?
[09:54] <Obi-1> not working
[09:54] <thrice`> shouldn't that be 2.6.0 by now ?
[09:54] <bonez> Could someone help me? "The source directory is not writable. You probably extracted the sources as root.
[09:54] <bonez> " You are running wineinstall as root, this is not advisable. Please rerun as a user.
[09:54] <bonez> " someone can help me to fix this? =(
[09:55] <johnhand> Hey. How do I get permission to edit my sources.list? I can only open it as read only...
[09:55] <Rawplayer> 00      *     *       *           *            /home/kevin/bin/updatespam.sh >/dev/null 2>&1 is this every hour?
[09:55] <thrice`> johnhand, sudo
[09:55] <bonez> johnhand; sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:55] <johnhand> and then a program opens or?
[09:56] <bonez> yes
[09:56] <DShepherd> dell500: type yelp at the terminals. There is a link to the man pages...Crtl+f you can search for the command you want
[09:56] <thrice`> Seveas, around ?
[09:56] <fanopnaic> Rawplayer: yes.
[09:56] <DShepherd> terminal*
[09:56] <bonez> Could someone help me? "The source directory is not writable. You probably extracted the sources as root.
[09:56] <bonez>  " You are running wineinstall as root, this is not advisable. Please rerun as a user.
[09:56] <bonez>  " someone can help me to fix this?
[09:56] <johnhand> Thanks a load! Gotta write that command down
[09:56] <johnhand> Cheers!
[09:57] <johnhand> Well, I should be going. Late in DK, and I gotta get up at 0600..
[09:57] <johnhand> c ya
[09:57] <johnhand> !
[09:57] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, johnhand
[09:57] <johnhand> :D
[09:57] <thrice`> Hey Seveas mind helping me a sec>?
[09:57] <Omega11> hi
[09:57] <Seveas> thrice`, yes, i'm very busy
[09:57] <Omega11> ubuntu linux sucks
[09:57] <Omega11> i prefer mandrake
[09:57] <thrice`> Seveas, ok; nevermind :)
[09:58] <thrice`> i thought you were in charge of the final OOo2 packs, but I read the wrong line
[09:58] <weob> does winetools work with the current wine beta or no?
[09:58] <Obi-1> hehehe.. if it sucks so much why you use it?
[09:58] <weob> ubuntu is far better than mandark
[09:58] <Obi-1> i think so to
[09:58] <Seveas> weob, this is not the place for distrowars
[09:59] <bonez1> yo
[09:59] <Obi-1> the frindliest linux in th world
[09:59] <weob> there is no war here
[09:59] <chope> hi, is there a way to limit the mouse position so it doesnt go to the other screen in xinerama?
[09:59] <weob> how do you get the build number on wine?
[10:01] <Obi-1> how can i disable the root no logging
[10:01] <Seveas> Obi-1, 'root no logging'?
[10:01] <Ophiocus> is there a way to check what codec is totem using for audio playback? i aint geting audio from a vcd
[10:01] <Obi-1> in the loggin screen.. root
[10:02] <LjL> how get i get a list like "dpkg -l", but with the complete package names shown and not truncated? actually, what i need in the end is a terse list of all installed packages
[10:02] <Coburn> how can i remove rox panel from my xfdesktop????
[10:02] <Seveas> LjL, dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstalled
[10:02] <Ophiocus> LjL, you can check that in sinaptic,. go to status and select installed
[10:02] <LjL> Ophiocus: no, i need to automate the process
[10:03] <LjL> seveas: thanks, seems like what i need
[10:03] <absurdhero> I have absolutely no questions at all. Ubuntu is working *perfectly* for me. And it only took a half hour to get everything set up just right. Thank You!
[10:03] <Yulia> Is there any p2p for music as ares inside distribution??
[10:04] <misfit_toy> absurdhero, very cool
[10:04] <LjL> Seveas: i think that it would be "deinstall" though, not "deinstalled", unless there's something i'm missing. in any case, what can my (installed) packages show other than "install"?
[10:04] <DShepherd> absurdhero: great!! your among few :)
[10:04] <Seveas> LjL, you're right :)
[10:05] <DShepherd> Yulia: I use limewire
[10:05] <Yulia> DShepherd, is good?
[10:05] <DShepherd> Yulia: well I like it.... you can try amule
[10:06] <LjL> Seveas: i'm trying to do some nice hacky stuff with auto-apt and other thingies... in the end, if all goes well, i want to have something that creates a .deb from a raw .tar.gz without any user intervention. hacky, of course, but i think it would be useful for many people :)
[10:06] <Seveas> LjL, you mean something like checkinstall :)
[10:07] <varsendagger> why can't i run gnome and kde simultaniously?
[10:07] <LjL> seveas: yes, but not quite! i mean to *use* checkinstall as well, but i want people to be able to "createdeb archive.tar.gz". auto-apt will install the required dependencies, and checkinstall will create the package, and the user will hopefully not have to worry about anything
[10:07] <DShepherd> varsendagger: is like wanting day and night at the same time
[10:07] <absurdhero> varsendagger, you can run gnome and kde simultaniously
[10:08] <absurdhero> I can't think of any good reason to, but if you want the bottom bar from kde to start while gnome, type ctrl-F2 and type "kicker"
[10:08] <DShepherd> absurdhero: you can?
[10:08] <varsendagger> absurdhero, how?  i actuall only wnat to run xfce and fluxbox simultaniously but it is the same concept
[10:08] <absurdhero> oh, that is a little different
[10:08] <Nebular> ok I've just spent the last few days setting up a samba print server with breeze, everything was working fine until I switched it over to a wireless card using ndiswrapper. Now opening a print dialog in winxp takes forever. any ideas as to why that would be?
[10:09] <absurdhero> I am not terribly familiar with xfce, but you may be able to start its nav bar thingy while in fluxbox
[10:10] <adriyel> absurdhero, indeed you can
[10:10] <DShepherd> absurdhero: oh..you mean run components of kde in gnome and vice-versa
[10:10] <scofield> hola
[10:10] <Ahmuck> how do i get to root from the live cd ?
[10:10] <absurdhero> what else is there besides components? I guess they do have their related window managers, but of course you can't run those at the same time
[10:10] <scofield> sudo -s
[10:10] <DShepherd> Ahmuck: sudo su
[10:11] <Ahmuck> thx
[10:11] <bob2> varsendagger: that makes no sense
[10:11] <bob2> varsendagger: xfce includes a window manager
[10:12] <DShepherd> bob2:  it's what he wants....maybe a thing in the future...but hey...let him hack at it
[10:12] <bob2> ...X only let you have one window manager per display
[10:13] <bob2> I don't really think it's negotiable
[10:13] <scofield> what , that make no sense ?
[10:13] <bob2> scofield: you can't have xfceand fluxbox's window manager runnin at the same time on the same display
[10:13] <scofield> ok thk
[10:13] <jals> hi, you might remember me from about half hour ago, trying to dual boot ubuntu?
[10:14] <Ahmuck> uh oh, i think i am going to crash.  tried to run apt update from live cd
[10:14] <jals> i was john- then
[10:14] <bob2> Ahmuck: that's fine, yo ucan install packages on the live cd (to ram)
[10:14] <scofield> exactly
[10:15] <bullraiser> hi people, i couldnt change my screen resolution to more than 1024x768, however my current dual Win XP is configured for 1280x1024. I tried dpkg reconfigure, changing xorg.conf and lot more options but none working. When i tried to view the Xorg.0.log, it shows me this message: (II) ATI(0): Not using mode "1280x1024@75" (exceeds panel dimensions). Could anyone pls help me out.
[10:15] <varsendagger> i wnat to be able to hit ctl+alt+F3 and (somehow start ) fluxbox and then hit ctl alt F4 and start xfce or gnome or kde or whatever else i wnat
[10:15] <DShepherd> !tell bullraiser about ati
[10:15] <omeg> Hmm... I don't have permission to visit my external hard drive sd1.
[10:15] <omeg> *sda1
[10:16] <DShepherd> varsendagger: oh... nice idea!
[10:16] <bob2> varsendagger: that's fine, and simple
[10:16] <bullraiser> thanks DShepherd, would try to look over the link and get back with the results shortly
[10:16] <bob2> !+fixres
[10:16] <ubotu> fixres is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:16] <DShepherd> bullraiser: np
[10:16] <bob2> bullraiser:  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:16] <varsendagger> do yall know how to do it
[10:16] <bob2> varsendagger: you'd need to start another gdm instance on another VT
[10:16] <omeg> Why can't I view my external hard drive? I don't have permission for some reason even though this is a clean install.
[10:16] <Ahmuck> the live cd is very stable imho
[10:17] <jonaz> back again :)
[10:17] <omeg> I am obviously the owner as I'm the only user on the entire system.
[10:17] <jonaz> ubuntu + osx work fine now
[10:17] <omeg> "Root" seems to be the owner.
[10:17] <jonaz> now i got another problem: i want to make wine, but cli says: bash: make: command not found
[10:17] <fxn> I burned the disc image for ppc (5.10) and the powerbook does not boot with it, do I need to burn it in any special way to use it as live cd?
[10:17] <lesshaste> omeg: do you know what root is?
[10:17] <varsendagger> ok i don't have gdm installed, shold i just be able to run startFluxbox?
[10:17] <bob2> omeg: you mean "Why don't I have read/write permissions to a windows filesystem I mounted using /etc/fstab?"?
[10:17] <omeg> Yeah, the top level user, right?
[10:17] <varsendagger> ---with out caps
[10:17] <lesshaste> omeg: on linux just because you are the only user does not mean you own everything
[10:17] <bob2> omeg: or is it being automounted incorrectly?
[10:18] <silversurfer>  does sm1 know how to get multiple window managers launched at the same time
[10:18] <omeg> Hmm. It's because it's NTFS?
[10:18] <mojo> HEY ALL - Anyone know a site like broadbandreports for Dial-UP ISP reviews and listings?  I am trying to find a good, inexpensive ISP for my friend to get on-line ASAP.  Thanks!
[10:18] <Digis> jonaz, apt-get install build-essentials
[10:18] <lesshaste> omeg: I doubt it.. how are you attempting to mount it?
[10:18] <bob2> silversurfer: it's not possible
[10:18] <mojo> PS - I am in middle USA
[10:18] <varsendagger> mojo where?
[10:18] <varsendagger> ahh
[10:18] <silversurfer> for exemple en display 7 drA7 and on 8 gnome
[10:18] <bob2> varsendagger: login to a VT, 'startx', login to another, 'startx -- :1'
[10:18] <omeg> I clean installed the system and didn't change anything to the default settings; I assume that when starting Ubuntu, it would just allow me to normally use any device connected to my computer, like an USB2.0 external hard drive.
[10:18] <bob2> silversurfer: start another X server
[10:18] <mojo> Fairview, Tennessee (40min E.S.E. of Nashville)
[10:19] <bob2> silversurfer: e.g. 'startx -- :1' in a virtual terminal
[10:19] <omeg> I bet it's because it's NTFS. My other external hard drive is still on FAT32.
[10:19] <omeg> And I can access that one just fine.
[10:19] <lesshaste> omeg: how are you mounting the ones that work fine?
[10:19] <bob2> omeg: you didn't tell us how it was being mounted
[10:19] <mojo> varsendagger: My friend can't even get DSL or Cable in his country locale
[10:19] <silversurfer> thanks
[10:19] <bob2> omeg: also, if it's NTFS, you'll only be able to read it
[10:19] <lesshaste> omeg: can you tell me what is in /etc/fstab for the external drive?
[10:19] <DShepherd> bob2:  how do you specify which desktop manager or windows manager to use
[10:19] <jonaz> d'oh !!! thanks, Digis !
[10:20] <tuxi> hi
[10:20] <Zim_256> Hello!
[10:20] <omeg> I don't know how I'm "mounting" it, bob2. I just started Ubuntu like normal after a clean install. This is my first time using Breezy.
[10:20] <jonaz> how long will wine take to compile approx. ?:))
[10:20] <DShepherd> bob2: startx starts your default....I think. correct me if I am wrong
[10:20] <lesshaste> omeg: what do you do to access the drive?
[10:20] <Zim_256> somebody knows how to configure the video driver under debian?
[10:20] <tuxi> is it possible to mirror a website and all links going off from it (from one html file)
[10:20] <lesshaste> omeg: click on something?
[10:20] <omeg> Just trying to double-click on the icon in "computer".
[10:20] <cius> hello
[10:20] <bob2> DShepherd: startx /usr/bin/yourwindowmanagerhere
[10:20] <lesshaste> omeg: aha... can you paste /etc/fstab to #flood?
[10:20] <bob2> omeg: so it's being automounted as I suggested?
[10:21] <omeg> Er... how do I get /etc/fstab?
[10:21] <bob2> lesshaste: there won't be a fstab entry if it's a usb device
[10:21] <Zim_256> ?
[10:21] <omeg> Is that a terminal command?
[10:21] <lesshaste> bob2: true...
[10:21] <bob2> omeg: no, it's a filename
[10:21] <DShepherd> bob2: ahh makes sense thanks
[10:21] <omeg> Ah, lemme find that out
[10:21] <lesshaste> omeg: listen to bob2 ... he is more on the case :)
[10:21] <omeg> Yeah... :P
[10:21] <varsendagger> ok i got a fatal server error the server is allready running on display 0
[10:21] <bob2> omeg: can you show us the output of 'mount' in #flood?
[10:21] <bob2> (that is a command)
[10:21] <omeg> I'm not sure if it's being automounted.
[10:21] <omeg> Okay
[10:21] <bob2> varsendagger: yes, you need to actually do what I said
[10:21] <bob2> varsendagger: running some other simialr command line will not work
[10:22] <bob2> tuxi: wget --mirror would be a good start
[10:22] <hav0k> hey, whats a good program for downloading podcasts for linux?
[10:22] <cius> Would anyone know how to changed your xserver layout from the gdm greeter?
[10:22] <varsendagger> what is a VT?
[10:22] <tuxi> bob2, but this way i mirror the whole site
[10:22] <omeg> Now all I gotta do is figure out how to open a terminal window
[10:22] <varsendagger> bob2,
[10:22] <bob2> varsendagger: 'startx /usr/bin/fluxbox -- :1' will start a new X server with fluxbox on it
[10:22] <varsendagger> ahhh
[10:22] <bob2> varsendagger: if you don't understand something I suggest, tell me.  silently ignoring it, then claiming it didn't work is really annoying.
[10:23] <Zim_256> somebody knows how to configure the video driver under debian? Please send private!
[10:23] <bob2> omeg: applications > accessories > terminal
[10:23] <bob2> Zim_256: no, ask a proper question
[10:23] <omeg> Oh, it's under accessories now
[10:23] <medgno> how do I check for if GLX is enabled from the terminal?
[10:23] <hav0k> does anyone download podcasts?
[10:23] <bob2> Zim_256: at the minimum, mention what card it is, and what you're trying to do
[10:23] <bob2> hav0k: I hear podcatcher is good
[10:23] <bob2> hav0k: also, apt-cache search podcast
[10:23] <bob2> medgno: glxinfo
[10:23] <Zim_256> it's a Intel Video card
[10:23] <anamaria> can i upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[10:23] <hav0k> hmm, good idea
[10:23] <bob2> omeg: yeah, no idea why it was moved
[10:23] <omeg> bob2: I just pasted mount in #flood.
[10:23] <bob2> anamaria: yes, /topic
[10:23] <bob2> omeg: thanks
[10:23] <lesshaste> Zim_256: the problem is that you need to provide enough information that someone could possibly answer your question. You also need to do it in less than 3 lines :)
[10:23] <varsendagger> bob2,  you are awesome
[10:24] <bob2> Zim_256: as in i810 or i855?
[10:24] <jah_raztah> does ubuntu ship with currupt X11 headers?
[10:24] <varsendagger> anamaria, yes
[10:24] <medgno> it's not installed on the livecd
[10:24] <DShepherd> bob2 : startx /usr/bin/kde for kde??
[10:24] <Zim_256> it comes with a ASRock p4i45GV
[10:24] <anamaria> bob2 how from synaptic?
[10:24] <cfa> rawtek u out there
[10:24] <Zim_256> I really don't know the exact model
[10:24] <hav0k> well, i guess ill just look around for some of them.  thanks bob2
[10:24] <lesshaste> hav0k: not yet :)
[10:24] <bob2> omeg: which in /media are inaccessible?
[10:24] <bob2> DShepherd: startkde, I'd think
[10:24] <DShepherd> ok
[10:24] <Zim_256> but it doesn't work with the intel810 driver
[10:24] <bob2> jah_raztah: yes, ubuntu patches them to be broken
[10:24] <bob2> anamaria: read the channel topic
[10:25] <dreadnought> Ubotu: tell me about java
[10:25] <bob2> Zim_256: you need to find out the model
[10:25] <omeg> bob2: hda2 and sda1.
[10:25] <cius> I runt a dual head xserver to my tv and monitor, but when i play games, I'd like to just run it on my monitor because the screen on the tv causes slow down in my games.  Anyone know how to easily switch between the two?
[10:25] <dreadnought> hey im back on!
[10:25] <bob2> Zim_256: if you have no idea, 'lspci | grep -i display', paste it to #flood
[10:25] <jah_raztah> bob2: why?
[10:25] <bob2> cius: depends how you set it up
[10:25] <cfa> can any1 help ndiswrapper, i have the win inf file
[10:25] <bob2> cius: ie what chipset it is, more or less
[10:25] <bob2> jah_raztah: I'm being sarcastic, of course they're not corrupt
[10:25] <bob2> jah_raztah: if you're having an issue, tell us
[10:26] <bob2> omeg: but sdb1 is fine?
[10:26] <cius> bob2, I'm running a geforce 5900 with nvidia drivers and using nvtv for my tv output
[10:26] <anamaria> bo2
[10:26] <anamaria> bob2
[10:26] <omeg> Yeah, sdb1 is fine. It's FAT32.
[10:26] <bob2> cius: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[10:26] <bob2> er
[10:26] <bob2> cfa: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[10:26] <bob2> anamaria: ?
[10:26] <bob2> cius: nvtv doesn't disable it then?
[10:26] <medgno> does the i810 driver not have support for GLX? I booted from the livecd, and everything's working but that
[10:27] <bob2> omeg: what about 'ls -l /media/', in #flood?
[10:27] <bob2> medgno: works for me
[10:27] <cfa> bob2 thanx will go now BRB
[10:27] <bob2> medgno: sure you're using it and not vesa or such?
[10:27] <Zim_256> It's a Intel Extreme graphics, it's onboard in a intel 845GV chipset
[10:27] <medgno> bob2, thanks. I guess I'll need to install to fight this one
[10:27] <DShepherd> bob2 are you sure you can more than one desktop manageers with the VT?
[10:27] <omeg> bob2: pasting...
[10:27] <treefrog> anyone here have any ecperence with wireless cards? mine is installed or seems to be. enabled but not working.!!
[10:28] <omeg> And done
[10:28] <bob2> DShepherd: I don't know what you mean
[10:28] <omeg> Wow
[10:28] <varsendagger> bob2, i got alot closer with that but it said it can't find cat
[10:28] <bob2> DShepherd: you can only use one window manager per X display, but you can have more than one X server on a machine
[10:28] <cius> bob2, I was under the impression that nvtv did the tv out on nvidia cards.  I didn't think simply killing nvtv would affect the xserver
[10:28] <omeg> Look at the differences in CHMOD.
[10:28] <medgno> bob2, reasonably sure. My /etc/X11/xorg.conf says it's using i810. But I'm not sure if the livecd set things up fully.
[10:28] <bob2> except multiple X servers makes my laptop fuckup on sleep
[10:28] <WhiteScorpion> Hi all
[10:28] <bob2> Zim_256: put your /var/log/X.org.log up somewhere
[10:28] <varsendagger> BRB
[10:28] <medgno> and I'm running a prerelease of breezy, since that was the only iso I had on my computer
[10:28] <bob2> varsendagger: you'd need to show us the full error in #flood
[10:29] <varsendagger> just a sec
[10:29] <DShepherd> bob2: at the vt = startxfce4 says...that server is already active
[10:29] <bob2> cius: hm, not killing it, I thought that command let you enable/diable tv-out.
[10:29] <bob2> cius: I've never used it, tho, so I could certainly be wrong
[10:29] <DShepherd> bob2: I have gdm running
[10:29] <lesshaste> medgno: have you updated?
[10:29] <bob2> DShepherd: if X is already running, it won't work
[10:29] <bob2> DShepherd: right
[10:29] <bob2> DShepherd: startx /usr/bin/whatever -- :1
[10:29] <varsendagger> just a sec
[10:29] <WhiteScorpion> Just a quick question: I love the idea behind ubuntu so i want to put the logo / link on my site as a token of my appreciation. Any idea which logo i could use best?
[10:29] <bob2> DShepherd: that tells it to start display '1' (0 is the default, and is where gdm is running)
[10:30] <cius> bob2, I wonder if disabling tvout would free up the resources used by it on the video card so that my games would run full speed?
[10:30] <DShepherd> bob2 oh thanks
[10:30] <bob2> medgno: hm, ok
[10:30] <dreadnought> hey i think that ubuntu screwed up mi window partition
[10:30] <Zim_256> it runs well with the knoppix 5.6 Live CD, using the i810 driver but i try to use this driver in debian and it doesn't work, It says that i haven't a 810 Vid. card
[10:30] <bob2> medgno: perhaps the snapshot you had was broken, but I don't actually have any evidence for that :)
[10:30] <medgno> lesshaste, the story is, for a long while my laptop's clock would race. I found a kernel parameter to try to pass to it. And this iso was the most recent livecd I had. The clock racing was fixed, so I'm downloading an install cd
[10:30] <bob2> DShepherd: np
[10:30] <Rev-Marc> is there anything I can download to play a video file that is in .wmv format?
[10:30] <bob2> cius: I don't know, I wouldn't think it'd make much difference
[10:31] <medgno> bob2, I wouldn't doubt it
[10:31] <treefrog> WhiteScorpion: just use the one that represents the version you r using.. thats what id do anyway
[10:31] <bob2> Zim_256: er, if you're using Debian, you're in the wrongl channel
[10:31] <varsendagger> Rev-Marc, Mplayer
[10:31] <bob2> Rev-Marc: wiki.ubunut.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:31] <bob2> WhiteScorpion: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WebsiteButtons
[10:31] <Zim_256> i'm current using a ubuntu LiveCD, sorry
[10:31] <Rev-Marc> mplayer wont play it
[10:31] <lesshaste> medgno: ok.. but can't you just upgrade with apt-get?
[10:31] <WhiteScorpion> treefrog: not using any yet. just ordered the cd.
[10:31] <varsendagger> really?
[10:31] <lesshaste> medgno: which motherboard out of interest?
[10:31] <WhiteScorpion> bob2: thanks !
[10:31] <bob2> WhiteScorpion: np
[10:31] <cius> bob2, ok, thanks, I'll try to find some more info on it.
[10:32] <bob2> omeg: hm, that's the problem, but I wonder why it's doing it
[10:32] <medgno> lesshaste, not sure. It's an hp pavillion laptop, 933 Mhz celeron
[10:32] <omeg> Hmm
[10:32] <bob2> cius: sorry I can't be of more help
[10:32] <omeg> So it's because it's NTFS?
[10:32] <varsendagger> bob2, how could i get the error i over to #flood?
[10:32] <bob2> cius: #nvidia may know more?
[10:32] <omeg> Is it because I updated my system (new Linux kernel, and is still waiting for a reboot)?
[10:32] <mojo> Q_Continuum: Anyone know of good site comparing/listing dial-up ISPs that service USA/Tennessee?  I need Ubuntu-friendly dial-up on a shoe-string budget for my friend.  THANKS!
[10:32] <treefrog> WhiteScorpion: that CD can take a while to land. I'd do an internet caffe job on it.
[10:32] <bob2> omeg: well, that seems to be triggering the bug, but the direct problem is that it's being mounted with the wrong owner
[10:32] <omeg> Aha!
[10:32] <bob2> omeg: oh, what kernel?
[10:33] <omeg> But all my filesystems belong to "root".
[10:33] <WhiteScorpion> treefrog: well, my dad just downloaded it, so i can start as soon as i visit my parents again...
[10:33] <weob> how do i change permissions for a file ?
[10:33] <Zim_256> Ok, i'm just about to toast the Ubuntu install CD to replace Debian
[10:33] <Zim_256> !!
[10:33] <ubotu> I heard ! is what you add before a sentence to talk to me
[10:33] <omeg> I'm not sure, actually. I just clean installed Ubuntu, updated, and it told me that I now have a new Linux kernel and that I should restart as soon as possible.
[10:33] <treefrog> WhiteScorpion: cool. :-)
[10:33] <lesshaste> medgno: and why not upgrade with apt-get?
[10:34] <omeg> So all my filesystems belong to root, and I can access all except those two.
[10:34] <bob2> weob: what are you trying to do?
[10:34] <WhiteScorpion> treefrog: yes it is. I just hope it will be just as much fun as i have with slack now ;-)
[10:34] <lucaas> i have a small issue bugging me, the loopback interface only has an ipv6 adress on startup, so i have to run "sudo ifconfig lo <IP_ADDRESS> up" after every startup, how can i set "lo" to have an ipv4 adress on startup aswell?
[10:34] <lucaas> :)
[10:34] <varsendagger> Zim what's wrong?
[10:34] <omeg> Both inaccessible filesystems are NTFS.
[10:34] <weob> trying to install a file but it has the permission of  root
[10:34] <bob2> omeg: well, it's possible rebooting will help, if other things like udev also got updated
[10:34] <Zim_256> Can i run Win apps in ubuntu?
[10:34] <varsendagger> Zim_256, what's wrong?
[10:34] <omeg> Hmm
[10:34] <bob2> lucaas: paste your /etc/network/interfaces to #flood
[10:34] <thrush> weob: apropos permission
[10:34] <bob2> Zim_256: some of them
[10:34] <weob> copied from ntfs
[10:34] <omeg> But it's kind of strange that it would do that, still.
[10:34] <treefrog> anyone have any experence with Wireles cards.. My Broadcome is there but not working.. !!
[10:34] <Sianis> hi all
[10:34] <DShepherd> bob2 its telling me no protocl specified
[10:34] <bob2> weob: 'sudo chown $USER filename'
[10:34] <The_Belgain> quick question about how hard drive partitions appear in ubuntu... i've used EVMS gui to make some partitions (of type RAID autodetect) on a drive.... running 'fdisk -l' lists the partitions on the this drive as /dev/sdb5, /dev/sdb6 and so on
[10:34] <medgno> lesshaste, the only other install cd I have is 4.10 And I'm on an ungodly slow dorm connection
[10:34] <omeg> I mean, you can't just change the owner or permissions of a hard drive while Linux is running, right?
[10:34] <Sianis> i have a little question
[10:34] <medgno> and I had problems with hoary on that laptop
[10:35] <bob2> treefrog: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[10:35] <Sianis> how can i remove some element outto gnome menu?
[10:35] <The_Belgain> but trying to pass these in to mdadm to create a RAID5 array, it complains that is can't find these?
[10:35] <lesshaste> medgno: ok
[10:35] <bob2> DShepherd: need to see the full error in #flood
[10:35] <Sianis> SMEG doesn't work
[10:35] <The_Belgain> am i missing something about how partitions get named by evms here?
[10:35] <lesshaste> medgno: downloading the install cd should be no faster than upgrading of course
[10:35] <DShepherd> j /#flood
[10:35] <bob2> omeg: you can indeed
[10:35] <omeg> Anyway, thanks for your help so far. I'm going to try restarting.
[10:35] <omeg> Be back in a second...
[10:35] <Sianis> it's an *ing ATI "never Works" Control icon
[10:35] <bob2> omeg: ok
[10:35] <weob> that command didnt work lol
[10:35] <treefrog> bob2: I'll go over it all again but I did that.. Oh well I can only learn more. :-)
[10:36] <Zim_256> i downloaded a lot of Motorola Cell apps and i need win to run it. Actually i have a boottime selector to select which OS start.
[10:36] <bob2> treefrog: then you need to be more specific about what isn't working
[10:36] <cfa> bob2 , i installed the wireless.inf but did not show up in the networking setting. builtin wireless card
[10:36] <medgno> lesshaste, yeah, but I don't feel confident upgrading from 4.10 to 5.10 without a stopover in 5.04
[10:36] <bob2> weob: 'didnt work' is not a useful description of the problem
[10:36] <Sianis> someone? help me pls!
[10:36] <bob2> cfa: ignore that, and read the end of 'dmesg'.
[10:36] <weob> says owned by root...
[10:36] <bob2> Sianis: please stop it
[10:36] <bob2> weob: then you didn't actually run what I said
[10:36] <weob> i need it to be owned by my home
[10:36] <cfa> bob 2
[10:36] <cfa> bob2 ok
[10:36] <bob2> weob: read what I said again, and try again
[10:36] <weob> yes i did
[10:36] <LjL> hm how does one represent a newline in a regexp?
[10:36] <Sianis> bob2, so nobody can answer me? :(
[10:36] <Zim_256> USB drivers and those things will work well under ubuntu?
[10:37] <bob2> weob: if you ran it with sudo, it won't give that error
[10:37] <bob2> Zim_256: usb drivers for *what*?
[10:37] <weob> it didnt give that error
[10:37] <bob2> Zim_256: out of the box, ubuntu supports more hardware than any other OS, yes
[10:37] <Zim_256> Motorola ROKR E1
[10:37] <weob> its not an error = simply when i check the file - it still belongs to root
[10:37] <bob2> (note: I have no evidence for this)
[10:37] <The_Belgain> are regions created by evms supposed to be available to other proggies such as mdadm?
[10:37] <lesshaste> medgno: ok :)
[10:37] <wilstar> how can i install flash plug-in and java in amd64?
[10:37] <Zim_256> I have that phone and i love to tune it
[10:37] <bob2> weob: so, run 'sudo chown $USER filename ; ls -ld filename' and paste the output to #flood
[10:37] <Sianis> How can i delete somthing frome gnome menu?
[10:38] <bob2> Sianis: please stop
[10:38] <bob2> Sianis: just wait patiently
[10:38] <medgno> lesshaste, and it never hurts to have it sitting around if someone else want to be ubuntuified
[10:38] <Sianis> but i have a problem
[10:38] <bob2> Sianis: if no one here knows, perhaps people on the mailing list or forums will know
[10:38] <Zim_256> Where i can find some "Mobile Phone Tools" or similar for linux?
[10:38] <bob2> Sianis: yes, and you already asked.  it's unlikely anyone joined in the last 3 seconds who knew the answer.
[10:38] <bob2> Zim_256: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[10:38] <Sianis> yes sir! :)
[10:38] <bob2> Zim_256: searching for motorola or so would be a good start
[10:38] <DShepherd> Sianis: have you tried menu editor?
[10:38] <treefrog> bob2: ok the card is installed as per HOW TO config broadcom cards un ubuntu. and it is there in system settings and I even managed to enable it. but it is not connecting. iwconfig shows a mac add of 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
[10:39] <bob2> wilstar: there's no amd64 flash plugin, afaik
[10:39] <Sianis> yes...i unsigned, restart the panel, but i see already
[10:39] <weob> how do i get wine to run without doing sudo ?
[10:39] <omeg> Hi there.
[10:39] <bob2> wilstar: if you care about binary stuff like that, you'll probably be happier with the i386 port
[10:39] <omeg> No go so far!
[10:39] <bob2> weob: wine never needs to be run under sudo
[10:39] <Sianis> so SMEG doesn't work ....
[10:39] <cfa> bob2: this is what i got - ndiswrapper (ndiswrapper_load_driver:92): loadndiswrapper failed (65280); check system log for messages from 'loadndisdriver'
[10:39] <DShepherd> Sianis: if not applicatons menu -- system tools -- application menu editor
[10:39] <omeg> bob2: I'm back, and I brought back both the knowledge that the start-up says "failed" for "mounting local volumes" and that when trying to access the drives, I get a more elaborate error message.
[10:39] <wilstar> bob2, can i install firefox i386?
[10:39] <Ahmuck> how do i modify the apt souce list ?
[10:39] <gupta> Quick question, where are the services status(disabled, running etc) stored?? For backup purposes
[10:40] <bob2> cfa: paste the last ten or so lines from /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[10:40] <DShepherd> Sianis: show delete or put anything or everything in the gnome meni
[10:40] <omeg> bob2: Want me to show the error message in #flood?
[10:40] <DShepherd> menu*
[10:40] <weob> well apparently for me it does
[10:40] <Sianis> DShepherd, it is in the application
[10:40] <lekvar> Ahmuck: vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:40] <bob2> omeg: hm, #flood?
[10:40] <weob> its the only way it runs
[10:40] <DShepherd> Sianis:? huh
[10:40] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Ahmuck about repos
[10:40] <omeg> Yeah
[10:40] <bob2> wilstar: the tarball, yes, the .deb, no
[10:40] <omeg> I'll paste it
[10:40] <bob2> wilstar: (not without a chroot, anyway)
[10:40] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> Hello, I have 1 question I asked for cd's in ship it in october 17 and today is November 13... is it normal to take so long to ship it?
[10:40] <bob2> gupta: they're not
[10:40] <omeg> There it is
[10:40] <Zim_256> Search for Motorola: 0 results :(
[10:40] <lucaas> bob2, i see that lots of people are bugging you, but if you want to look at it, its here: http://pastebin.ubuntulinux.nl/4500
[10:40] <bob2> gupta: or, they are, in /etc/rc2.d/
[10:40] <Sianis> SMEG see the icon, but i cannot deselect, or delete
[10:40] <bob2> Ahmuck: what are you trying to do?
[10:40] <thrush> W|-|ite_Wol|-: thats not long trust me
[10:40] <Ahmuck> get scim-anthy
[10:40] <ksmurf> I'm having issues with smeg.  My .config dir does not exist?    How can I fix it?
[10:40] <bob2> W|-|ite_Wol|-: you would not believe how many jillion cds have been ordered
[10:40] <gupta> k thax bob2. any other way to backup services status?
[10:41] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> I live in portugal... :-S
[10:41] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> bob2 yes i know
[10:41] <bob_> anyone have any success with the ATI All In Wonder 9800?
[10:41] <joosep> When trying to mount an USB stick i get "Error: could not execute pmount"
[10:41] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> when its free many people order.
[10:41] <bob2> gupta: the default is for everything to run on boot, so, by default, htere's not much to backup
[10:41] <joosep> how to fix it?
[10:41] <DShepherd> Sianis: what program?
[10:41] <bob2> bob_: you need to be more specific about what you're trying to do with it
[10:41] <Zim_256> Ok, i gotta go!
[10:41] <lucaas> W|-|ite_Wol|-, if you want the cd fast, i sugest downloading and burning it
[10:41] <bob2> bob_: it should work out of he box with X
[10:41] <Yulia> hi...
[10:41] <Zim_256> Thanks for everything!
[10:41] <bob2> joosep: this is a default breezy system?
[10:41] <omeg> So
[10:41] <Sianis> DShepherd, it's an ATI control icon
[10:41] <lucaas> lo Yulia :>
[10:41] <bob_> it does work with X, but no tv capture...
[10:41] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> lucaas i know :-) just want the original to have it :-)
[10:42] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> heheh
[10:42] <gteppel> I'm in a quandry... I've used KDE in the past and find it just to messy to look, I love the simplicity of gnome! However KDE seems to be faster, window minizming/maxamizing transitions are nice and smooth and the gui is more responsive. I realize that most of this has to do with the window manager and the blame doesn't rest completely on the desktop enviroment. What other window managers are out there that will provide nicer looking
[10:42] <gteppel> gui animations and will just generally speed up my desktop. I find gnome is unbearbley slow and I have a AMD 1800XP, 768 RAM, and Geforce4 128MB video card. I hate to make the comparison but I'm looking for the way Windows and OSX feels, not looks, but just feels. Hope I'm making sense!, any help would be appreciated!
[10:42] <DShepherd> Sianis: you just dont want it to show in the menus right?
[10:42] <omeg> It seems like Ubuntu just doesn't know how to access my NTFS external hard disk. Too bad. :(
[10:42] <bob2> lucaas: the '
[10:42] <Yulia> is not there a bitcomet package for ubuntu?
[10:42] <bob2> ifconfig lo <IP_ADDRESS> up' line should not be there
[10:42] <Zim_256> And greetz from     A r g e n t i n a  ! ! !
[10:42] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> oki well i supose i just wait a bit :-)
[10:42] <cfa> non2 i did
[10:42] <Sianis> DShepherd, yes yes
[10:42] <bob2> bob_: do you need gatos for that?
[10:42] <joosep> bob2: no actually it's a downgraded kubuntu system with ubuntu-desktop installed
[10:42] <bob_> bob2:i installed gatos, but still no joy..
[10:42] <bob2> bob_: ok
[10:42] <bob2> joosep: uh
[10:42] <bob_> bob2: i need a direction to start working in.
[10:42] <lucaas> bob2, okay, thanks alot, i'l try without it
[10:42] <joosep> bob2: but breezy yes
[10:42] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> gatos means Cats in portuguese
[10:42] <bob2> joosep: do you have pmount installed?
[10:42] <joosep> bob2: yes
[10:42] <bob_> y espanol
[10:43] <bluefrog-10> who could point me to a working /etc/skel howto, not theroy that everybody's is rewriting happily without understanding how to do it
[10:43] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> :-D
[10:43] <Yulia> lucaas, ??
[10:43] <DShepherd> Sianis: open smeg
[10:43] <bob2> omeg: hm, and your /etc/fstab?
[10:43] <lucaas> Yulia, lo=hello
[10:43] <lucaas> :>
[10:43] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> I hope some day ubuntu live cd brings de gcc mips compiler :-|
[10:43] <Sianis> DShepherd, opened
[10:43] <bob2> W|-|ite_Wol|-: huh?
[10:43] <omeg> It shows the drives as NTFS volumes.
[10:43] <Yulia> ups!
[10:43] <bob2> W|-|ite_Wol|-: you can install a cross-compiler on it if you want to
[10:43] <DShepherd> Sianis: you see applications at the top?
[10:44] <lesshaste> omeg: I assure you it can be done in ubuntu :)
[10:44] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> I know.. but im rookie
[10:44] <bob2> W|-|ite_Wol|-: there is no way a mips cross-compiler is going to be on the live cd by default
[10:44] <Sianis> DShepherd, yes!
[10:44] <omeg> Let me paste what fstab says in #flood, then
[10:44] <DShepherd> Sianis: in the right panel....you should still all the stuff unda apps
[10:44] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> bob2 it has for x86 architecture
[10:44] <cius> do .desktop files in the xsessions dir contain info about which server layout to use (after login from gdm)
[10:44] <cius> ?
[10:44] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> its only some few files.. lol.. i need to learn how to install it
[10:44] <Xyc1> what is the IRC command to get rid of your ghosts or w/e they are called?
[10:44] <DShepherd> Sianis: you shoould be able to check and uncheck over there
[10:44] <bob2> W|-|ite_Wol|-: apt-cache show toolchain-source
[10:44] <W|-|ite_Wol|-> its very usefull to see the assembler code of mips
[10:45] <bob2> cius: don't think so
[10:45] <szaz> hello all...
[10:45] <bob2> Xyc1: it's server specific; /msg nickserv help
[10:45] <szaz> I could do with some help sorting out a users/groups problem
[10:45] <szaz> any takers?
[10:45] <Sianis> DShepherd, i try it jet, i unsigned not once, but when close, it's signe again
[10:45] <cius> bob2, k, thanks
[10:45] <DShepherd> Sianis: still = see
[10:45] <lesshaste> omeg: sda1 is the one you are trying to mount?
[10:45] <Sianis> DShepherd, i don't understand why...i cannot unsig or delet it
[10:45] <bob2> szaz: it's a lot easier if you just ask
[10:46] <szaz> I use usermod to change the groups I belong to - I must have missed something - sudo no longer works
[10:46] <erUSUL> szaz, ask and we'll see if somebody can help
[10:46] <bob2> lesshaste: ok, you were right, my apologies :-)
[10:46] <omeg> Yeah, sda1. Actually, for some reason it's no longer giving me an error message when I try to view it now, just a blank folder.
[10:46] <lesshaste> bob2: :)
[10:46] <bob2> omeg: comment out those lines in /etc/fstab (add a # to the beginning of the line)
[10:46] <synapsis_> hello i just wanted to say i'm finally getting out of windows and i'm looking forward to using ubuntu. however i'm installing as we speak, if someone could assist me, i would much appreciate it
[10:46] <paul__> How do I install my printer when connected to a router
[10:46] <omeg> bob2: it's a read-only file.
[10:46] <erUSUL> szaz, you have deleted your user from admin group
[10:46] <bob2> synapsis_: best to just ask specific questions as you come upon them
[10:46] <Xyc0> bob2: thanks again bob2
[10:46] <DShepherd> Sianis: not sure why you having the prob....
[10:47] <lesshaste> omeg: can you use the command line?
[10:47] <nitrocks> is there a way to do an install of ubuntu strictly over the net?.. i'm having some issues with my cd drive, it keeps failing in the middle of the install at different points, with different cds
[10:47] <bob2> szaz: why did you change your default group selection?
[10:47] <lesshaste> omeg: it is easier for me :)
[10:47] <synapsis_> bobslaede: thanks
[10:47] <bobessutio> what do I need for tv capture under linux?
[10:47] <synapsis_> erase entire disk, or erase entire disk and use LVM ?
[10:47] <szaz> yes - I think I have
[10:47] <weob> anyone else have problem with acid rip crashing-freezing- i tried xvid codec -
[10:47] <bob2> omeg: 'sudo nano /etc/fstab', it should have help at the bottom of the screen
[10:47] <nitrocks> can i do an install from grub?
[10:47] <szaz> How do I get back in the group without acces to sudo?
[10:47] <bob2> szaz: reboot into recovery mode (it's a grub option at boot time), and run 'adduser yourusername admin'
[10:47] <bob2> nitrocks: theoretically
[10:47] <Sianis> DShepherd, that's the probleme why i ' am here ... i thing i not lama, but this probleme is the hard for me
[10:47] <cfa> bob2 i pasted the info on #flood
[10:47] <synapsis_> i'm unsure what LVM means, and if i should use it when i'm installing ubuntu
[10:47] <nitrocks> bob2: where should i start?
[10:47] <omeg> Okay, both of those lines are commented out and the file is saved.
[10:48] <DShepherd> Sianis: srry but I can help ypu
[10:48] <etherclear> synapsis: do you plan on dual-booting the system?
[10:48] <DShepherd> you*
[10:48] <Xyc0> bobessutio: Im pretty sure it depends on your video card/drivers
[10:48] <lesshaste> bob2: I'll leave you to it :) good luck!
[10:48] <synapsis_> etherclear: negitive, i want to use strictly ubuntu
[10:48] <szaz> Thankyou - how do I invoke grub?
[10:48] <Sianis> DShepherd, so i thanks
[10:48] <bobessutio> Xyc0: ok, thanks
[10:48] <Xyc0> bobessutio: what are you using?
[10:48] <bobessutio> Xyc0: ATI all in wonder 9800 pro
[10:49] <Xyc0> bobessutio: Oh me too :D
[10:49] <synapsis_> etherclear: i figure that didn't answer your question did it? =P
[10:49] <bobessutio> Xyc0: any luck?
[10:49] <lesshaste> omeg: I am leaving you in the trusty hands of bob2 :)
[10:49] <Orborde> What's the CLI command to count the number of lines in a text file?
[10:49] <erUSUL> szaz, boot with a livecd and edit /etc/groups directly
[10:49] <etherclear> synapsis: then if you have no data on the drive tell it to erase the disk
[10:49] <Sianis> bye all good night
[10:49] <bob2> synapsis_: if you don't know what it means, don't use it
[10:49] <bob2> lesshaste: adios, thanks :-)
[10:49] <synapsis_> etherclear: thanks =)
[10:49] <lesshaste> omeg: it should be mount ro of course
[10:49] <omeg> Okay :P A "cdrom0" popped up, by the way. And I only have one DVD-RAM drive.
[10:49] <lesshaste> NOT rw
[10:49] <etherclear> synapsis: sry just slow here
[10:49] <bob2> Orborde: wc -l filename
[10:49] <lesshaste> omeg: add noauto,ro,users
[10:49] <Corin> can anyone here help me with webmin?
[10:50] <bob2> omeg: that's normal(ish)
[10:50] <Corin> or proftpd?
[10:50] <erUSUL> Orborde, wc
[10:50] <szaz> bob2: thanks, I'll give it a go
[10:50] <lesshaste> omeg: instead of defaults
[10:50] <omeg> lesshaste: er... how?
[10:50] <nitrocks> what would be the easiset way to install ubuntu w/o copying the files from the cdrom?.. i'm able to boot off a cd, but once i start doing heavy data transfers from a cd, I get I/O errors..
[10:50] <jonaz> is there a way to show hidden files with xfce? i cant find the setting
[10:50] <Orborde> bob2 / erUSUL : Thanks
[10:50] <lesshaste> omeg: ask bob2  :) bye
[10:50] <bob2> omeg: you'll probably need to unmount everything on the usb drives and replug them
[10:50] <omeg> But I just commented the lines out.
[10:50] <Ophiocus> is there a way to put like a confirm window before closing xchat?
[10:50] <bob2> nitrocks: whatsort of machine is it?
[10:50] <synapsis_> etherclear: its ok. it says that partion #1 (hda) as ext3, and partion #5 (hda) as swap. is it ok with deleting those?
[10:50] <nitrocks> can i use a standards x86 install iso?
[10:50] <Corin> anyone? help with webmin or proftpd?
[10:50] <bobessutio> Xyc0: have you gottend tv capture to work?
[10:50] <Corin> please
[10:50] <nitrocks> bob2: dell inspiron 9100 laptop
[10:50] <Corin> :)
[10:50] <bob2> omeg: yeah, but they won't be remounted with the new settings until you replug them
[10:51] <bob2> nitrocks: can it PXE boot?
[10:51] <omeg> Okay, so I have to unplug them and replug them.
[10:51] <bob2> Corin: you haven't asked a real question yet
[10:51] <Xyc0> bobessutio: I have b4, im looking at my bookmarks to see what could help you
[10:51] <bob2> omeg: after unmounting them, yes
[10:51] <nitrocks> bob2: i'm not sure i know what a PXE boot is
[10:51] <omeg> ah
[10:51] <etherclear> synapsis_: hmm, did you just write those to the drive or were they there from a previous linux install?
[10:51] <bobessutio> Xyc0: cool, thanks
[10:51] <szaz> has anyone here successfully installed TurboGears on Breezy Badger?
[10:51] <nitrocks> bob2: network?
[10:51] <[linner] > hello everyone ;)
[10:51] <nalioth> [linner] : howdy
[10:52] <[linner] > nalioth:  how are ya'?
[10:52] <Corin> bob2, ive installed apache, mysql, php, phpmyadmin, webmin and proftpd
[10:52] <bob2> nitrocks: yeah
[10:52] <omeg> Actually, I just replugged them (without reading your last message) and they just popped up on my screen. "Dada" and "LACIE" are now working fine. Although my NTFS Windows volume isn't, but that's not a big deal.
[10:52] <bob2> nitrocks: that'd be the simplest solution
[10:52] <synapsis_> etherclear: i previously was trying to install about half an hour ago, before i cancled to go and backup some things. so it may have been created within the initial installation, i'm unsure.
[10:52] <Corin> i want to give ftp access to /var/www/folder1/
[10:52] <bob2> szaz: yes, it's simple
[10:52] <Corin> and to get webmin working...
[10:52] <[linner] > !tell me about mulitverse
[10:52] <szaz> I've tried all day - no luck
[10:52] <wastrel> hi - i have an inkjet printer set up using CUPS, epson stylus c86...  I need to clean the print heads, epson's site says i should use an epson utility to do this... is there any equivalent in CUPS or ubuntu?
[10:52] <[linner] > !tell me about repositories
[10:52] <nalioth> ubotu: tell [linner]  about sources
[10:52] <bob2> omeg: to fix that, replace 'defaults' with 'defaults,umask=000' in /etc/fstab, for the windows hard disk
[10:52] <szaz> Loads of errors resulting in gcc exiting with status 1
[10:52] <[linner] > thank you nalioth
[10:52] <bob2> Corin: I'm not sure what this has to do with webmin
[10:53] <varsendagger> hey waht has two thumbs and can fun xfce and fluxbox at the same time?
[10:53] <bob2> Corin: configuring proftpd to do that is simple
[10:53] <bob2> szaz: which you're going to paste in #flood...?
[10:53] <etherclear> synapsis_: okay, then its probably okay to wipe those so as to have a clean drive, then just do the same thing and ubuntu will automatically set up your filesystem and swap
[10:53] <varsendagger> this guy
[10:53] <bob2> hah
[10:53] <bob2> congrats
[10:53] <szaz> bob2: er... I will when I sort out this sudo problem!
[10:53] <[linner] > nalioth:  i'm trying to update my repos again so i can get mulitverse stuff too ... couldn't do it the other night cause they were down
[10:53] <cfa> bob2  i c u r busy is there any1 else i can talk to about the ndiswrapper failing
[10:53] <Xyc0> bobessutio: look into Freevo packages
[10:53] <Corin> bob2, maybe its simple, but how do i do it?
[10:53] <omeg> Actually, since I don't want to even touch that drive at all, I think I might just leave it as it is. Thanks a lot, bob2. :)
[10:53] <szaz> bob2: can't run the install command at present
[10:54] <weob> how do i link wine to run so that it will run when i type it in terminal?
[10:54] <varsendagger> wait wait it crashed
[10:54] <Dez[debian] > i need some help
[10:54] <varsendagger> :(
[10:54] <bobessutio> Xyc0: cool, brb
[10:54] <bob2> szaz: oh, rebooting into recovery mode will fix that
[10:54] <Xyc0> bobessutio: i think ubuntuforums has some good infor on it
[10:54] <Dez[debian] > how do i reconfigure my screen Resolution
[10:54] <bob2> cfa: did you paste the bit of syslog to #flood that Iasked for?
[10:54] <bob2> Corin: edit the proftpd config file
[10:54] <bob2> omeg: no problem, good luck
[10:54] <bob2> watnu: how do you mean?
[10:54] <bob2> !+fixres
[10:54] <synapsis_> etherclear: much appreciated, i'll let you know if i run inot anything else
[10:54] <ubotu> from memory, fixres is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:54] <bob2> Dez[debian] : ^
[10:54] <szaz> bob2: I installed python2.4-dev package, did you have to install anything else prior to running the turboGears setup.py scrtipt?
[10:54] <cfa> bob2 i pasted the /ect/apt/source.list
[10:55] <Dez[debian] > Thx bob
[10:55] <bob2> cfa: and the end of /var/log/syslog
[10:55] <Corin> bob2, where is the config file? (forgive me, i am new to linux, even newer to ubuntu, even newer to command-line, and even newer to proftpd! lol)
[10:55] <cfa> bob2 ok
[10:55] <etherclear> synapsis: okay cool, your gonna love ubuntu :)
[10:55] <bob2> Corin: /etc/protftpd.conf, or so
[10:55] <nalioth> Corin: we can help you elsewhere
[10:55] <Xyc0> bobessutio: I think Myth TV is another open project
[10:55] <bob2> szaz: don't think so; the error woul probably make it clear what you're missing, tho
[10:56] <szaz> bob2: Hundreds of warnings seemed to be related to cElementTree
[10:56] <synapsis_> etherclear: i'm seriously looking forward to it, i've wnated out of windows so badly, but i didn't wanna run into all sorts of problems with linux and not know the first thing to do.
[10:56] <bob2> szaz: ah, python2.4-celementree then
[10:56] <bob2> the bane of bzr
[10:56] <szaz> bob2: Seemed to suggest syntax errors in the install script
[10:56] <joosep> why can i only mount /dev/sda1 as root even in nautilus?
[10:56] <Xyc0> synapsis_: theres no problems, they are features! *oad to gates
[10:56] <bobessutio> Xyc0: my main problem seems to be a lack of driver. ie no /dev/video0
[10:56] <szaz> bob2: I do appear to have the latest version of ez_setup.py
[10:57] <synapsis_> Xyc0: hahaha
[10:57] <bob2> joosep: be more specific
[10:57] <synapsis_> base system installation error: the debootstrap progra mexited with an error (return value 1). Check /target/var/log/bootstrap.log for the details.
[10:57] <Xyc0> bobessutio: did you install the xorg-driver-fglrx for your system?
[10:57] <synapsis_> should i continue?
[10:57] <etherclear> synapsis_: it can be intimidating, but you can find solutions to most problems in channels like this, on the ubuntu wiki, or elsewhere...the community is great
[10:57] <cfa> bob2 ok i added the syslog
[10:58] <joosep> bob2: when i plug in my usbstick and right-click to mount it in nautilus i get the pmount error. But when i run nautilus as root i can mount it and view the files normally
[10:58] <Xyc0> synapsis_: does that happen on a clean isntall?
[10:58] <synapsis_> etherclear: thats the reason why i'm here for just installing it =)
[10:58] <Xyc0> install*
[10:58] <synapsis_> Xyc0: yes
[10:58] <bob2> synapsis_: sure the CD is ok?
[10:58] <synapsis_> it should be, i just burned it
[10:58] <Corin> bob2, im not sure which bits to edit...
[10:58] <bobessutio> Xyc0: will that do the trick?
[10:58] <bob2> joosep: you shouldn't have to right click anything to mount it
[10:59] <Xyc0> synapsis_: yea, either the cd is corrupted or the format didnt go well
[10:59] <Dez[debian] > brb
[10:59] <synapsis_> xyc0: should i continue anyways?
[10:59] <etherclear> synapsis_: are you sure you wiped the drive?
[10:59] <bob2> Corin: good point
[10:59] <synapsis_> etherclear: i selected the "erase entire drive" option
[10:59] <Corin> ?
[10:59] <bob2> Corin: what are you planning to do with this ftp server? just anonymous downloads?
[10:59] <etherclear> synapsis_: mk
[10:59] <joosep> bob2: well doubleclicking yields the same results
[10:59] <bobessutio> Xyc0: gonna try reinstalling driver,brb
[10:59] <Corin> bob2, i have set up a lamp server
[10:59] <Xyc0> bobessutio: do you know how?
[11:00] <szaz> bob2: I'll sort my user group problems and get back - perhaps you can give be some ideas later
[11:00] <bluefrog-10>  i'd like to know how to make users use the same background and have same icons on their desktop/taskbar using /etc/skel, who could point me to an howto with example or explain to me how to achieve that, pls?
[11:00] <szaz> bob2: Cheers
[11:00] <Corin> i want to give ftp access to people who want sites on my server
[11:00] <Xyc0> tell bobessutio binary
[11:00] <Corin> friends
[11:00] <Xyc0> I can never get ubotu working
[11:00] <bobessutio> Xyc0: lol
[11:00] <Xyc0> !tell bobessutio binary
[11:00] <synapsis_> etherclear & xyc0: should i continue even though i have this error?
[11:01] <Corin> ??
[11:01] <bobessutio> Xyc0: persnickety bots
[11:01] <Xyc0> synapsis_: yes, but you should consider getting a clean copy of ubuntu
[11:01] <Corin> bob2?
[11:01] <Xyc0> bobessutio: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:02] <bobessutio> Xyc0: cool, thanks
[11:02] <Xyc0> bobessutio: follow directions for Hoary, not warty
[11:02] <bob2> Corin: you are aware that ftp is a big security issue, right?
[11:02] <Corin> how?
[11:02] <bob2> bluefrog-10: desktop icons would be done by making /etc/ske/Desktop and putting some .desktop files in it
[11:02] <etherclear> synapsis_: did you do check the disk you are using to make sure it was ok?
[11:02] <cfa> Corinuse ftp over ssh
[11:02] <cfa> Corin use ftp over ssh
[11:02] <bob2> bluefrog-10: background would be simpler with gconf hacks, I'd think (ie edit the schema?)
[11:03] <bob2> Corin: because it sends passwords in plain text
[11:03] <synapsis_> etherclear: i believe so... what would i do to check if it was ok?
[11:03] <Corin> bob2, but all professional servers use ftp...?
[11:03] <bob2> Corin: this sounds like you want users to have seperate dirs they can ftp to
[11:03] <Corin> bob2, yes
[11:03] <bob2> Corin: only the poorly managed ones, or ones that have to deal with windows users
[11:04] <Corin> to be honest, no one will try hacking it lol
[11:04] <bluefrog-10> bob2, i need to have them in /etc/skel cause in fact i want to make /etc/skel /etc/skel1 /etc/skel2 so that depending on groups they are in users will have have diffrent things
[11:04] <kapputu> do wireless cards based on TI chipset have support in Ubuntu?
[11:04] <adriyel> Ti Chipsets are fairly non standard
[11:04] <adriyel> I'll venture a guess and say no
[11:04] <ubuntu> blaa?
[11:05] <kapputu> there was no support in Hoary
[11:05] <ubuntu> blaa? blaa?
[11:05] <dreadnought> where is the firefox directory in my computer?
[11:05] <cfa> bob2 any info on the things i pasted
[11:05] <Xyc0> kapputu: if not, ndiswrapper can use the windows drivers in ubuntu
[11:05] <Corin> bob?
[11:05] <tarheelcoxn> dreadnought: are you looking for something you downloaded?
[11:05] <adriyel> Xyc0, that too. :|
[11:05] <folha> ntu
[11:05] <ubuntu> Bob who? me?
[11:05] <Corin> bob2, ok, but how can i get ftp working?
[11:05] <Xyc0> Corin: apache
[11:05] <dreadnought> tarheelcoxn: no i need to change to that dir
[11:06] <Corin> Xyc0, ive installed apache....
[11:06] <Corin> i need ftp too
[11:06] <Corin> i need ftp access to the apache folders, ie /var/www/
[11:06] <Xyc0> Corin: hehe, get network certified?
[11:06] <dreadnought> tarheelcoxn: it should be the same 4 u too if ur running hoary
[11:06] <etherclear> synapsis_: I use cksum, but you arent on linux yet... um i bet there was an md5 with your disk image
[11:06] <Corin> lol
[11:06] <Corin> but anyway, please helo
[11:06] <tarheelcoxn> dreadnought: whereis firefox
[11:06] <Corin> :D
[11:06] <bob2> bluefrog-10: that will be hard then
[11:06] <Corin> help*
[11:06] <tarheelcoxn> dreadnought: from a command line
[11:07] <dreadnought> tarheelcoxn: well mozilla and in nautilus
[11:07] <ubuntu> help*
[11:07] <cfa> Corin start the service in init.d
[11:07] <ubuntu> help
[11:07] <kapputu> yes I have been using it that way for sometime but for some reason it doesn't start during boot
[11:07] <Xyc0> Corin: seriously tho, people make money of setting up networks and FTP, you may want to take a class on it
[11:07] <kapputu> I have to connect manually and the connection often drops
[11:07] <Xyc0> lots of money
[11:07] <dreadnought> tarheelcoxn: i need to put it in to the terminal to run something
[11:07] <tarheelcoxn> dreadnought: what is it that you're trying to do?
[11:07] <dreadnought> tarheelcoxn: and i cant find it
[11:07] <bob2> Corin: simplest is to just make users using adduser
[11:07] <dreadnought> tarheelcoxn: still tryin to do java r e
[11:08] <bob2> Corin: then they can ftp to their homedir
[11:08] <KinkoBlast> What good music creation software exists for linux. Creation, NOT playback.
[11:08] <Corin> cfa, i am new to this stuff, i dont understand what u said...
[11:08] <bob2> Corin: you'll need to configure apache approriately
[11:08] <bob2> KinkoBlast: I'd think you'd need to be more specific about what you mean
[11:08] <Xyc0> Corin: are you trying to share files on a home network?
[11:08] <Corin> bob2, any chance you could talk me through it?
[11:08] <tarheelcoxn> dreadnought: oh... sorry.. can't help you there
[11:08] <tarheelcoxn> ask the bot about java
[11:08] <Corin> Xyc0, no, web server
[11:08] <bob2> Corin: bear in mind you're in "if you're running a hosting company, you should know what you're doing or hire someone who does" territory
[11:08] <dreadnought> Well who can....?
[11:08] <Corin> bob2, im not running a company lol
[11:08] <bob2> Corin: sorry, have to get to my real job at some point
[11:08] <dreadnought> that doesnt work for me
[11:09] <Corin> little more help bob2?
[11:09] <Corin> :)
[11:09] <Xyc0> Corin: but you don't think anyone will mess with it?!  Dont be nieve
[11:09] <Xyc0> thanks for the help bob2!
[11:09] <KinkoBlast> bob2: Like Finale. Only for GNU/Linux. Pref. GTK+ w/o GNOME dependincies, but that's not all that important.
[11:09] <Corin> 1: how do i add users
[11:09] <bob2> Xyc0: np.
[11:09] <Xyc0> Tell bob1 i said hi
[11:09] <dreadnought> can someone tell me where in nautilus is mozilla located?
[11:09] <Corin> 2: how do i configure apache?
[11:09] <bob2> KinkoBlast: I don't know what finale is
[11:09] <Xyc0> and Bob0
[11:09] <bob2> Corin: adduser
[11:10] <small> hello
[11:10] <bob2> Corin: you'll be making a new entry in /etc/apache2/sites-available/ for each website, based on the default template
[11:10] <KinkoBlast> Bob2: It's a music editor with an interface that looks like sheet music.
[11:10] <small> ?
[11:10] <bob2> KinkoBlast: ah, perhaps lilypond4 will suit you
[11:10] <dreadnought> use fruity loops its much better
[11:11] <dreadnought> much much!
[11:11] <Corin> bob2, where do i do adduser?
[11:11] <phillambrechts> I have an nvidia ac97 coundcard, how can I get it to play more than one sound using the Last.fm player
[11:11] <cfa> Corin r u new to Linux, if so u should get a book for new users. It will help in all linux distros.
[11:11] <Dez[debian] > how do i mount my Windows XP Partition so i can get my Music from Windows
[11:11] <Dez[debian] > ?
[11:11] <Xyc0> dreadnought: and Project One is better the fruity loops, but we arnt willing to spend 500 on it
[11:11] <dreadnought> or acid pro
[11:11] <fredy2> hola
[11:11] <Xyc0> Dez[debian] : google how to mount ntfs
[11:11] <dreadnought> u can geta cheap 150 usd one
[11:12] <bob2> Corin: in the terminal...
[11:12] <lightbright> some say ubuntu is great, but they rushed breezy and it has a ton of problems!  What kind of problems?
[11:12] <cfa> Corin it will explain how to add users and start services like FTPd and HTTPd
[11:12] <Xyc0> Dez[debian] : you do it trough /etc/fstab for automaticaly mounting
[11:12] <eren> is there a way to control my cpu fan speed in ubuntu?
[11:12] <Xyc0> Dez[debian] : and writablilty with NTFS is rather unstable, so it is read only
[11:12] <dreadnought> well can any one tell me where mozilla is located in nautilus?
[11:12] <Duelus> how do I add screen resolutions bigger then 1024 by 786?
[11:12] <Dez[debian] > i just want to Read it Xyc0
[11:12] <Dez[debian] > when i click on HDA1 it tells me i dont have permission
[11:12] <cfa> bob2 should i uncomment anything in the source.list and what about the syslog
[11:12] <lightbright> does breezy have a lot of problems?
[11:13] <Corin> bob2, adduser in terminal created a new linux user...?
[11:13] <Elsan> Any idea when the OpenOffice.org 2.0 will be available in the repositories&?
[11:13] <bob2> cfa: that error indicates you didn't give it the right path for the inf file
[11:13] <bob2> !+info openoffice.org2 dapper
[11:13] <ubotu> Updating ubuntu files... please wait.
[11:13] <ubotu> openoffice.org2: (OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0), section editors, is optional. Version: 1.9.129-0.1ubuntu4 (dapper), Packaged size: 73 kB, Installed size: 192 kB
[11:13] <bob2> cfa: yes
[11:13] <cfa> bob2 ok i will try agian
[11:13] <lightbright> Elsan: why you want office 2?
[11:13] <lightbright> Elsan: what can office 2 do for you that the older cant?
[11:13] <dreadnought> well can any one tell me where mozilla is located in nautilus?
[11:14] <Elsan> lightbright: Just curious, I got OO.org on my Windows and I don't see any difference, I'm just curious.
[11:14] <Xyc0> Dez[debian] : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[11:14] <bob2> dreadnought: you mean "Can someone tell me where on the filesystem the mozilla executable is?"?
[11:14] <kapputu> dreadnought, I have been trying to find that out too
[11:14] <Dez[debian] > xyc0 its already mounted
[11:14] <bob2> dreadnought: /usr/bin/mozilla, but it's just ashell script
[11:14] <phillambrechts> Ok, In a bash script how can I kill esd while a program i specify is running and launch it after that program is closed?
[11:14] <eren> where is the best place for support online?  (the wiki?)
[11:14] <Xyc0> Dez[debian] : oh then you need to change the permissions
[11:14] <dreadnought> i just need the path thanks
[11:14] <dreadnought> il try that
[11:14] <cfa> bob2 what should i uncomment, sorry, i am new to debian and unbuntu, RH and FreeBSD is what i know
[11:14] <lightbright> Elsan: what?
[11:14] <bob2> phillambrechts: pkill esd ; blah ; esd -nobeeps&
[11:14] <bob2> cfa: I didn't say to uncomment anything
[11:14] <Xyc0> Dez[debian] : that can be done by editing /etc/fstab, but read about it before you do
[11:14] <bob2> cfa: the log says it couldn't find the .inf file
[11:14] <cfa> bob2 ok
[11:15] <phillambrechts> bob2, thanks a lot, i'll try it
[11:15] <Dez[debian] > ok thanks xyc0
[11:15] <bob2> cfa: I'm really pretty sure following the howto I gave you would get it working...
[11:15] <Elsan> lightbright: I was just curious to know
[11:15] <treefrog> bob2:  is resolvconf necessary for a wireless card to install correctly and connect to a router? Im trying to figure out if that is my reason for not having a mac add when doing iwconfg
[11:15] <lightbright> Elsan: know what?
[11:15] <cfa> bob2 ok
[11:15] <Elsan> lightbright: If it was gonna be available in the repositories
[11:15] <synapsis_> etherclear & xyc0: update, everythings failing.
[11:15] <bob2> treefrog: no
[11:15] <bob2> treefrog: it's a pain in the arse
[11:16] <synapsis_> everything has failed.
[11:16] <Xyc0> synapsis_: what do you mean?
[11:16] <Xyc0> synapsis_: when you boot?
[11:16] <synapsis_> all sorts of errors
[11:16] <urbanfox|away> hrm, 32 MB is low enough to qualify as a "low memory mode" install?
[11:16] <dreadnought> it says "Go to the plugins sub-directory under the Mozilla installation directory
[11:16] <dreadnought> cd <Mozilla installation directory>/plugins"\
[11:16] <synapsis_> nah i have yet to even fully install it
[11:16] <angvp> hiya, anyone have been configured a webcam in linux?
[11:16] <treefrog> bob2: humm ya thought about asking before i try to install... thanks.. any idea where I should be looking??
[11:16] <dreadnought> what goes in the <>'s
[11:17] <synapsis_> in the midst of the installation i've encountered like 5 errors already
[11:17] <synapsis_> this really bums me out
[11:17] <Xyc0> synapsis_: wha, what part of installation?
[11:17] <synapsis_> "install the base system" or ""copy remaining packages to hard disk"
[11:17] <synapsis_> or=and
[11:18] <jnymo> anybody know of where to get info on installing a windows nic card on ubuntu?
[11:18] <bob2> treefrog: I don't know where you're stuck
[11:18] <bob2> urbanfox|away: yes, sadly
[11:18] <dreadnought> ubotu: tell synapsis about enter
[11:18] <bob2> urbanfox|away: it may not work at all, breezy had regressions wrt lowmem installs, dunno if they were completely fixed
[11:19] <dreadnought> so i take no one knows how to help me then?
[11:19] <bob2> dreadnought: I don't thin kyou've asked a coherent answerable question yet
[11:19] <Corin> bob2?
[11:19] <bob2> dreadnought: what are yo utrying to do?
[11:19] <jnymo> ~ndiswrapper
[11:20] <synapsis_> ubotu: tell synapsis_ about enter
[11:20] <dreadnought> bob2: figure out where the mozilla stuff is in nautilus
[11:20] <Corin> bob2, how can i add a user to proftpd?
[11:20] <treefrog> jnymo:  ~ndiswrapper indeed.
[11:20] <bob2> Corin: ?
[11:20] <bob2> dreadnought: no, that's not your goal
[11:20] <bob2> dreadnought: what is your endgoal?
[11:20] <bob2> Corin: sudo adduser blah
[11:21] <phillambrechts> bob2, how can i tell if esd is running or not?
[11:21] <Corin> bob2, that adds a user to the computer, not the ftp...
[11:21] <dreadnought> bob2: to install and use jre
[11:21] <jnymo> ubotu: tell me about ndiswrapper
[11:21] <dreadnought> like ive been tryin for weeks now
[11:21] <bob2> Corin: incorrect
[11:21] <bob2> phillambrechts: 'pidof esd'
[11:21] <bob2> dreadnought: so say that
[11:21] <Corin> then ok, ive added a user...
[11:21] <dreadnought> bob2: so do you know?
[11:21] <bob2> dreadnought: where did you mention which step of wiki.ubuntu.com/Java doesn't work?
[11:22] <phillambrechts> bob2, it returned 574, does that mean its running"
[11:22] <synapsis_> welll all the ubuntu files are all corrupt
[11:22] <synapsis_> and i'm gettin upset.
[11:22] <Janbanan> Can someone help me with a mount problem?
[11:22] <bob2> phillambrechts: yes
[11:22] <bob2> Janbanan: you need to be a lot more specific
[11:22] <bob2> synapsis_: when installing?
[11:22] <Corin> bob2, after adding user, how can i give that user access to /var/www/folder1/ ?
[11:22] <Janbanan> one sec
[11:22] <phillambrechts> bob2, why am I not getting sound from application launches, etc?
[11:22] <bob2> Corin: change their homedirectory
[11:22] <Xyc0> Janbanan: dont ask to ask dude, just shoot away
[11:23] <Corin> how?
[11:23] <synapsis_> bobslaede: yep, i burned the iso, put it into the drive, was following along, and it says that the cd's basically corrupt because none of the files are working
[11:23] <bob2> Corin: I guess editing /etc/passwd, very very carefully
[11:23] <synapsis_> bob2 sorry
[11:23] <dreadnought> bob2 the wiki doesnt work for me for some reason i do it all the way and it just doesnt work
[11:23] <bob2> synapsis_: did you check if the cd was corrupt?
[11:23] <bob2> dreadnought: that's ot a useful description of the problem
[11:24] <synapsis_> bob2 how can i cehck
[11:24] <bob2> synapsis_: boot into expert mode, run 'verify cd' from the menu
[11:24] <Corin> bob2, at the moment the user i created says this:
[11:24] <Xyc0> wow this is way to confusing for my lazy mind, im installing ubuntu and windows simultanioulsy
[11:24] <jals-> is apt ubuntu's version of fedora's yum
[11:24] <jals-> ?
[11:24] <dragoonz> Can someone help me get my laptop's NIC card working?
[11:24] <synapsis_> bob2: i have nothing to boot to, thats the problem.
[11:24] <Corin> sam:x:1001:1001:Sam,,,:/home/sam:/bin/bash
[11:24] <Corin> ?
[11:25] <jals-> in fact, could someone point me to a ubuntu faq type thing to get started?
[11:25] <Xyc0> jals-: um.... yes.... sorta
[11:25] <dreadnought> ok im at http://java.com/en/download/help/5000010500.xml#enable and im all the way down to enable and configure could u look at it
[11:25] <Janbanan> hehe found the problem with the sata disk
[11:25] <Xyc0> jals-: yea, ubuntu.com has a link for it
[11:25] <Dez[debian] > im enjoying ubuntu so far :)
[11:25] <jals-> alrighty, thanks
[11:25] <Xyc0> jals-: wiki.ubuntu.com has a few new user pages too
[11:25] <Corin> bob2?
[11:25] <Xyc0> Corin: give him some time
[11:25] <bob2> Corin: ?
[11:26] <dreadnought> be patient hes help in alot of people
[11:26] <bob2> synapsis_: you can't boot the install cd?
[11:26] <Corin> do i change "/home/sam" to "/var/www/"?
[11:26] <Corin> it says:
[11:26] <Corin> sam:x:1001:1001:Sam,,,:/home/sam:/bin/bash
[11:26] <bob2> jals-: yum is more or less a clone of apt
[11:26] <bob2> Corin: yes
[11:26] <bob2> Corin: except to /var/www/whatever/
[11:26] <synapsis_> bob2: i can boot it, however i'm left iwt hthe option "type server, or press enter"
[11:26] <Corin> ok
[11:26] <bob2> synapsis_: type expert
[11:26] <dreadnought> u see it now bob2?
[11:26] <Xyc0> jals-: yumx is a straight clone of synaptic
[11:26] <bob2> dreadnought: so
[11:26] <Corin> ok, bob2, done that
[11:26] <dreadnought> what?
[11:27] <Dez[debian] > every time i go to Play a Mp3 file i get there were no decorders found to hadnle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[11:27] <bob2> dreadnought: I'm pretty sure I told you to read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Java
[11:27] <Corin> now, how can that user connect to /var/www/sam/ using ftp?
[11:27] <bob2> dreadnought: are you not using i386?
[11:27] <cfa> bob2 it is installed the .inf file but nothing, i did ndiswrapper -l and got this "net5211 invalid driver!", this was the driver i got from my windows partition
[11:27] <bob2> Corin: yes
[11:27] <bob2> Dez[debian] : wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:27] <Aven> how do I specify a compiler when compiling?
[11:27] <bob2> cfa: is it the .inf file
[11:27] <Corin> bob2, it was "how", not "can" :P
[11:28] <dreadnought> i cant just do it at javas site? bob2
[11:28] <bob2> Aven: what are you trying to do?
[11:28] <Xyc0> synapsis_: yea, what kind of processor are you using?
[11:28] <bob2> dreadnought: this is why you have been stuck for weeks
[11:28] <Aven> compile
[11:28] <Aven> a software
[11:28] <bob2> Corin: they connect using an ftp client
[11:28] <bob2> Aven: and the software is...
[11:28] <Corin> ok
[11:28] <Aven> it uses 'gcc 4' but I want to point it to gcc 3
[11:28] <synapsis_> xyc0: intel p4?
[11:28] <Aven> magick irc services
[11:28] <dreadnought> bob2: it just wont work and noone knows whats wrong with it
[11:29] <Xyc0> synapsis_: what architect of ubuntu did you download to install? i386, x86_64?
[11:29] <synapsis_> i386 i believe
[11:29] <Aven> I remember it being 'export=' or something
[11:29] <bob2> dreadnought: holy god
[11:29] <Aven> anyone know?
[11:29] <cfa> bob2 i believe so i will restart in win and check, thanx for help, bbl
[11:29] <synapsis_> integrety test failed
[11:29] <bob2> Aven: export CC=gcc-3.4, may work
[11:30] <bob2> Aven: it's software-specific, tho, which is why you need to mention exactly what you're trying to do in your initial questions
[11:30] <Dez[debian] > !universe
[11:30] <ubotu> it has been said that repositories is How to add repositories:  http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto See !sources for example sources.list
[11:30] <bob2> dreadnought: so, stop talking
[11:30] <bob2> dreadnought: go follow exactly what the page I pointed you at said
[11:30] <bob2> dreadnought: assuming you are using an i386 cpu, which you did not yet confirm
[11:30] <Xyc0> bob2: he said p4
[11:30] <synapsis_> xyc0: yeah its i386.
[11:30] <Corin> bob2, it wont let me connect from a different pc...
[11:30] <_Twitch> hey guys, im having a problem with my hoary hedgehog installation. Gnome will fire up, and it will either freeze at the login screen or right after when the splash screen displays. Anyone have any ideas as to what might me wrong? I have the i386 installation.
[11:30] <Aven> bob2: when I run the 'make' command, it uses gcc 4
[11:30] <Corin> oh wait, it will
[11:30] <Corin> :D
[11:31] <Corin> but, bob2, it allows him access to the entire pc...
[11:31] <dreadnought> bob2: how am i supposed to know!
[11:31] <Aven> ah, works now :)
[11:31] <synapsis_> integrety test failed - "the .pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.12/linux-image-2.6.12-9-386_2.6.12-9.23_i386.deb file failed the MD5 checksum verification. Your CD-ROM or this file may have been corrupted"
[11:31] <synapsis_> what now
[11:32] <Dez[debian] > !howtoaddmultiverse
[11:32] <ubotu> Dez[debian] : I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:32] <gnomefreak> _Twitch, one word breezy :)
[11:32] <dreadnought> bob2 no i need JRE
[11:32] <dreadnought> not JDK
[11:32] <_Twitch> LOL
[11:32] <_Twitch> i have no way of getting breezy any time soon. :(
[11:32] <Xyc0> synapsis_: download ubuntu i386 install for 5.10 from ubuntu.com
[11:32] <synapsis_> xyc0: thats the one i downloaded.
[11:32] <dragoonz> Can someone help me get my laptop's NIC card working?
[11:32] <bob2> Xyc0: ah
[11:32] <bob2> dreadnought: dude, stop
[11:32] <Xyc0> Dez[debian] : look for repository on wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:33] <bob2> dreadnought: be quiet
[11:33] <bob2> dreadnought: then read that page again
[11:33] <Corin> bob2?
[11:33] <bob2> Aven: yes, it's software specific
[11:33] <bob2> Aven: you may need to hack the Makefile
[11:33] <Xyc0> synapsis_: yea, well that download is corrupted
[11:33] <dreadnought> bob2: unfortunatly for u i need JRE
[11:33] <bob2> Aven: simplest would be talking to the author
[11:33] <bob2> dreadnought: stop talking
[11:33] <gnomefreak> _Twitch, how much ram do you have?
[11:33] <bob2> dreadnought: 'In BreezyBadger, Java is also available as the Blackdown j2re1.4 and Blackdown j2se1.4 packages in the multiverse repository.'
[11:33] <_Twitch> gnomefreak: a gig.
[11:33] <synapsis_> xyc0: well whats to be done then if the offical site offers a corrupt copy?
[11:33] <HrdwrBoB> dreadnought: unfortunately for you, you can't type
[11:33] <gnomefreak> synapsis_, the error is froma bad download or bad burn
[11:34] <dreadnought> thanks
[11:34] <Xyc0> synapsis_: the download is corrupted, it probubly just cut off partway through
[11:34] <gnomefreak> _Twitch, im not sure than sorry :(
[11:34] <bob2> Corin: ?
[11:34] <bob2> Corin: yes
[11:34] <_Twitch> thanks, gnomefreak :)
[11:34] <dreadnought> I HAVE HOARY!!! god
[11:34] <Janbanan> I have a problem to restart X-server. When i press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace it turns off but my screen also turnes off so I'm not able to see anything
[11:34] <bob2> Corin: if you don't want them accessing things in other people's homedirs, change the permissions
[11:34] <Corin> ok...
[11:34] <Corin> how?
[11:34] <gnomefreak> _Twitch, yw
[11:34] <Corin> at the moment, he can access everything
[11:35] <synapsis_> xyc0: is there a way i can verify what i've downloaded, rather than downloading again, burning another iso to cd, and then getting caught in the same cycle?
[11:35] <bob2> Corin: look at the permissions of the other homedirs in /var/www/
[11:35] <bob2> Corin: bear in mind ftp is inherently asking for trouble
[11:35] <lightbright> once a person does a fresh install of breezy, do they update it and upgrade same as Debian?  apt-get update and apt-get upgrade ?
[11:35] <bob2> dreadnought: bah
[11:35] <gnomefreak> synapsis_, what are you using now for an os?
[11:35] <bob2> lightbright: yes
[11:35] <Xyc0> synapsis_: you said the MP5 test failed, that verifyed that your download is corrupted
[11:36] <synapsis_> Xyc0: k, thanks =)
[11:36] <lightbright> once a person does a fresh install of breezy, what other steps should they do besides  apt-get update and apt-get upgrade ?
[11:36] <Xyc0> synapsis_: sorry, not sure what you were asking
[11:36] <dreadnought> bah 4 wat
[11:36] <lightbright> bob2: ?
[11:36] <bob2> lightbright: ?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> add universe repo
[11:36] <lightbright> bob2: once a person does a fresh install of breezy, what other steps should they do besides  apt-get update and apt-get upgrade ?
[11:36] <Corin> and is it possible to log into root with ftp?
[11:36] <silversurfer> hey bob
[11:36] <gnomefreak> synapsis_,  what OS are you using?
[11:36] <silversurfer> since I tryed to open a new x server
[11:36] <Janbanan> Is it possible to run winamp in ubuntu?
[11:36] <bob2> lightbright: none.
[11:36] <synapsis_> gnomefreak: none now
[11:37] <silversurfer> I can't log anymore
[11:37] <szaz> Can anyone explain how to boot into recovery mode? GRUB doesn't normally appear when I reboot
[11:37] <bob2> Corin: if you do that, I will beat you
[11:37] <silversurfer> with entrance
[11:37] <bob2> Corin: (no)
[11:37] <Xyc0> lightbright: that should be good untill you want to install more programs then what ubuntu comes with
[11:37] <bob2> Janbanan: probably under wine, but why bother
[11:37] <synapsis_> what a waste
[11:37] <gnomefreak> synapsis_,  define none
[11:37] <lightbright> bob2: ok thanks. And does breezy come on 1 CD?
[11:37] <Corin> lol
[11:37] <dreadnought> omg  bob2 just can u please tell me where mozilla is located!
[11:37] <bob2> szaz: hit escape over and over
[11:37] <Dez[debian] > so i cant play mp3 files unless i pay .75c?
[11:37] <lightbright> Xyc0: ok
[11:37] <bob2> lightbright: yes
[11:37] <bob2> dreadnought: holy god
[11:37] <gnomefreak> lightbright, yes 1 cd
[11:37] <synapsis_> gnomefreak: none = error loading operating system
[11:37] <bob2> dreadnought: /usr/lib/mozilla/
[11:37] <szaz> bob2: at boot?
[11:37] <dreadnought> bob2 i no
[11:37] <gnomefreak> synapsis_,  how are you online?
[11:37] <Dez[debian] > nvm lol.
[11:37] <Corin> ok, then, in command-line, how can i change permissions so that user "sam" can only access /var/www/sam/ ?
[11:37] <synapsis_> gnomefreak: i'm using another comp
[11:37] <dreadnought> bob2 now was that so hard?
[11:38] <gnomefreak> what os is on it?
[11:38] <szaz> bob2: I booted from the liveCD but I can't find /etc/groups to edit
[11:38] <bob2> szaz: yes, immediately after the bios
[11:38] <lightbright> is breezy good to give to friends who have only ever used ms windows?  will they be able to install breezy by themselves and get conntected to internet using modem etc ?
[11:38] <szaz> bob2: cheers again!
[11:38] <Xyc0> lightbright: you also might want to install your video card drivers if you have ATI or nVidia
[11:38] <bob2> Corin: sudo chmod go= /var/www/sam/
[11:38] <gnomefreak> lightbright, cant tell you thaqt dont know how pc litterate they are
[11:38] <lightbright> Xyc0: how do you install drivers for ATI or nVidia?
[11:38] <ReleaseX> ls
[11:38] <ReleaseX> ls
[11:38] <lightbright> gnomefreak: lets say average user
[11:38] <djk_> lightbright: if they can think and read, they should succeed.
[11:38] <bob2> Corin: I'm not going to help you anymore, sorry; I don't have time to help you do this securely.
[11:38] <Xyc0> lightbright: yes, i dout youd hear otherwise here tho
[11:38] <Corin> i dont need it very secure bob
[11:39] <Corin> bob2, ok, and then
[11:39] <Corin> it then says
[11:39] <Corin> >
[11:39] <synapsis_> thanks to everyone who helped. you'll see me back in a few hours, hopefully next time it won't be a corrupted file. cuz if it is, i won't have anything nice to say
[11:39] <Xyc0> lightbright: what video card are you using, either one the how to can be found at wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:39] <gnomefreak> lightbright, it pretty much walks you threw the install depending on if that is the only hard drive and that is gonna be only operating system
[11:39] <lightbright> dpes breezy contain the latest security pathes etc, safe to use for internet banking etc?  Latest firefox etc?
[11:39] <Fred|Fr3d> hey... i keep getting "No sensors found" from lm-sensors... i followed the quickstart guide and did the detect thing... any ideas?
[11:39] <everton> Hi, I have re-installed Ubuntu to upgrade to breezy. I copied my /home to a partition hda7 e installed the system on hda9. How do I mount the old /home partition?
[11:39] <Xyc0> synapsis_: dont quit, no mater what you do
[11:40] <gnomefreak> guess he really didnt wanna know how to tell b4 burning it if its bad :(
[11:40] <dragoonz> how do I use "make" if it says command is not found
[11:40] <everton> e -> and *
[11:40] <Corin> bob2, very quickly please
[11:40] <weob> /usr/bin/wine: could not locate Wine source tree
[11:40] <weob>  - anyone know what that means?
[11:40] <synapsis_> Xyc0: just a pain
[11:40] <lightbright> Xyc0: does breezy contain the latest security pathes etc, safe to use for internet banking etc?  Latest firefox etc?
[11:40] <bob2> dragoonz: install it...
[11:40] <dragoonz> uh?
[11:40] <bob2> weob: why did you install wine from source?
[11:40] <weob> yest latest firefox
[11:40] <bob2> dragoonz: install build-essential
[11:40] <weob> because its 0.9
[11:40] <bob2> lightbright: yes...
[11:40] <lightbright> bob2: do you use Debian or Unbuntu?
[11:40] <bob2> weob: that's no reason to install it to /usr/
[11:40] <Xyc0> lightbright: yes, when updates come out online, you will be notified and asked if you want to install them
[11:40] <veloct> lightbright: it contains 1.0.7
[11:40] <bob2> lightbright: both
[11:40] <alpha> can someone send me a multiverse repository server or a list of them
[11:40] <gnomefreak> lightbright,  i cant tell you about the security if the banking website but there are many firewalls for linux
[11:40] <cameron> lightbright: i feel that its safer than MS
[11:41] <Corin> bob2, please?
[11:41] <bob2> lightbright: ubuntu has a similar security system to debian
[11:41] <bob2> alpha: read your /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:41] <weob> then where should it be?
[11:41] <bob2> lightbright: ie fixes for security issues get backported to the stable release
[11:41] <bob2> weob: /usr/local/wine/
[11:41] <weob> ok
[11:41] <holycow> i not googling much info on qt7 support on linux ... anyone know what the score on this currently?
[11:41] <lightbright> Xyc0: so if you type apt-get update each day, you will make sure its got the latest updates etc?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> 21-5 away winning
[11:42] <veloct> holycow: you mean quicktime?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:42] <bob2> holycow: mplayer
[11:42] <Dez[debian] > is Wine installed by default?
[11:42] <holycow> no
[11:42] <bob2> holycow: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:42] <bob2> Dez[debian] : no
[11:42] <gnomefreak> no Dez[debian]
[11:42] <holycow> i meant quicktime 7
[11:42] <holycow> as in not quicktime 6
[11:42] <lightbright> gnomefreak: does breezy come with a firewall such as firestarter?
[11:42] <bob2> lightbright: no
[11:42] <holycow> as in quicktime 7 support
[11:42] <holycow> >_>
[11:42] <gnomefreak> yes in synaptic
[11:42] <Xyc0> lightbright: no, there is an applet in gnome that will do it for you
[11:42] <weob> ine: cannot determine executable type for L"H:\\arial32.exe" now i got this
[11:42] <lightbright> Xyc0:  ok
[11:42] <holycow> bob2, that is a #debian answer, your slipping back to your old wasy friend
[11:43] <gnomefreak> or apt-get install firestarter
[11:43] <holycow> :)
[11:43] <bob2> weob: why would you run a font file?
[11:43] <lightbright> cool thanks :)
[11:43] <Corin> bob2? i did sudo chmod go= /var/www/sam/
[11:43] <bob2> holycow: ?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:43] <Xyc0> np
[11:43] <Corin> it now says ">" on a new line...?
[11:43] <weob> because that's a part of the wine tools install that doesnt work
[11:43] <bob2> lightbright: ubuntu, like sarge, has no listening network services by default
[11:43] <holycow> so, speaking of quicktime 7 anyone know if there is any work being done on that, who might be working on that, etc?
[11:43] <bob2> holycow: mplayer can play it.
[11:43] <holycow> qt7?
[11:43] <holycow> weird
[11:43] <weob> qt7 dont work
[11:43] <alpha> bob2: i need to add one to it
[11:43] <weob> cuz its bundled with itunes
[11:43] <weob> and itunes doesnt install right now
[11:43] <holycow> i will check it, but that doesn't sound right
[11:43] <shad0w1e> is there any way to get KDE to recognize the fact that I'm using a xinerama display, instead of one large screen ??
[11:44] <bob2> shad0w1e: perhaps #debian-kde
[11:44] <holycow> weob, thankfully no it doesn't install
[11:44] <holycow> EVER
[11:44] <shad0w1e> because my windows keep popping up halfway on each screen
[11:44] <weob> lol
[11:44] <alpha> bob2: for some reason the default ones in synaptic wont work
[11:44] <bob2> alpha: you need to read it
[11:44] <shad0w1e> bob2, thanks
[11:44] <Corin> bob2, please!
[11:45] <bob2> synapsis_: please turn that off
[11:45] <gnomefreak> i never learned how to turn them on :)
[11:45] <alpha> bob2, it doesn't have a list that i can see just a list of ones put in from install
[11:45] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:45] <laxise> hi everyone. i got a question. i installed ubuntu breezy badger on my pc and after the first boot up i get only some weird screen built by many stripes but no login?! i can boot up into text mode but  Xwindows doesnt work. How to fix that?
[11:46] <alpha> bob2, the server for multivers seems to be down
[11:46] <bob2> alpha: please read it, it explains preciesly how to enable multiverse
[11:46] <gnomefreak> laxise, re configure your x windows file
[11:46] <omeg> Wooh
[11:46] <bob2> alpha: no, the server for multiverse is the as the server for evetyhing tlse
[11:46] <holycow> no shit, mplayer can do qt7
[11:46] <holycow> wow
[11:46] <holycow> thx bob2 :)
[11:46] <bob2> please don't be a smartarse when I'm right ;)
[11:46] <alpha> bob2, i get a 404 error when i enable it
[11:46] <omeg> I finally contributed to the open source community today by fully translating gnome-volume-manager of dapper to Dutch completely.
[11:47] <Dez[debian] > anyone know a good place for X-Chat plugins
[11:47] <bob2> alpha: then show us your /etc/apt/sources.list in #flood
[11:47] <bob2> omeg: yay!
[11:47] <dseomn> when I try to reply to an html mailin evolution, the input is reversed (i.e. when I type "asdf" I see "fdsa"). I have evo set to always use plain text in outgoing mail
[11:47] <veloct> Dez: xchat's home page
[11:47] <laxise> gnomefreak  im not really advanced in that way. how to reconfigure my x windows file?
[11:47] <dseomn> I'm using dapper btw
[11:47] <omeg> That is, if they're accepted. But I'm well-known with my language, so they probably will. Hmm, too bad there's no section in which I can drop comments about (common) mistakes they made, just so they won't see the correct versions as faulty ones.
[11:47] <gnomefreak> bob2, whats the xorg config command
[11:48] <Xyc0> omeg: you dutch?
[11:48] <dseomn> gnomefreak: dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[11:48] <bob2> gnomefreak: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
[11:48] <gnomefreak> there you go laxise
[11:48] <alpha> bob2, done
[11:48] <bob2> omeg: is there a dutch translation team? or a netherlands loco team?
[11:48] <gnomefreak> ty guys
[11:48] <dseomn> bob2: xorg, not xfree86
[11:49] <laxise> ok
[11:49] <laxise> thx gnomefreak
[11:50] <kbrooks> dseomn: depends
[11:50] <kbrooks> dseomn: warty uses xfree86
[11:50] <alpha> bob2, did you see my paste into flood
[11:50] <gnomefreak> all depends on the moniter and the vc what one you are using
[11:50] <dseomn> kbrooks: people still use warty? wow
[11:50] <Fred> i keep getting "No sensors found" from lm-sensors... i followed the quickstart guide and did the detect thing... and it did find sensors in that, and i have added the lines to /etc/modules, and they seem to be loaded... any ideas?
[11:50] <kbrooks> dseomn: it's old, i know. :)
[11:50] <gnomefreak> i wanna say its the age of the hardware that makes the difference between xfree and xorg
[11:51] <corey> hey
[11:51] <corey> hello
[11:51] <dseomn> hi
[11:51] <corey> wut is this
[11:51] <lightbright> once breezy is installed, whats procedure to get the internet working with a modem?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> what*
[11:51] <corey> is this like a chat
[11:52] <szaz> bob2: Thanks - recovery mode solved my first problem
[11:52] <gnomefreak> cable dsl or dial up?
[11:52] <corey> i saw this in my menu
[11:52] <dseomn> corey: yes, for support with ubuntu
[11:52] <dreadnought> how do you do this im too dumb to di it                 # Go to the plugins sub-directory under the Mozilla installation directory
[11:52] <dreadnought> cd <Mozilla installation directory>/plugins
[11:52] <dreadnought> # In the current directory, create a symbolic link to the JRE ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so file Type:
[11:52] <dreadnought> ln -s <JRE installation directory>/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[11:52] <omeg> bob2 omeg: is there a dutch translation team? or a netherlands loco team? <-- I'm not sure. I just checked out a page where I could translate and then went past all the boxes.
[11:52] <NoobieDoobieDo> Hi corey , this is Internet Relay Chat.
[11:52] <gnomefreak> dreadnought,  dont paste in here
[11:52] <lightbright> Xyc0 lightbright: no, there is an applet in gnome that will do it for you <--- does this listen by itself all the time?
[11:52] <corey> what do i do with it
[11:52] <Kovecses> in ubuntu my computers "thinking" light stays on always? is there a w
[11:52] <omeg> And yes, I'm Dutch. I don't know anybody who's well-learnt in Dutch without being Dutch himself, actually. It's not a very popular language to learn.
[11:52] <szaz> bob2: When you installed TurboGears, did you install anything else other than python2.4-dev?
[11:52] <Kovecses> to fix
[11:52] <dreadnought> ok i wont if i get told how to do it
[11:52] <dseomn> corey: ask for ubuntu-related help if you need it
[11:52] <Xyc0> lightbright: yea, you should have seen it when you first booted ubuntu
[11:52] <gnomefreak> pasting in here will not get you an answer
[11:52] <lightbright> Xyc0: what about KDE?
[11:53] <lightbright> Xyc0: does breezy come with KDE?
[11:53] <dreadnought> how do u now i pasted
[11:53] <gnomefreak> lightbright, gnome
[11:53] <Kovecses> lightbright, gnome.... but kde isnt hard to add
[11:53] <gnomefreak> type /topic and read it
[11:53] <lightbright> gnomefreak: you telling me there is no KDE?
[11:53] <Xyc0> Xyc0: it usualy comew with gnome, but you can put KDE on if youd like
[11:53] <veloct> lightbright: just sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:53] <lightbright> Kovecses: ok
[11:53] <blank> hey guys, I'm so glad to be able to come back :)
[11:53] <dreadnought> can some one help me with it
[11:53] <lightbright> veloct: ok
[11:53] <bob2> dseomn: duh me, right
[11:53] <bob2> alpha: ok
[11:53] <Kovecses> lightbright, or you could download kubuntu wich has kde by default
[11:53] <Xyc0> lightbright: I like gnome tho, very straight forward
[11:53] <bob2> szaz: I don't recall
[11:54] <bob2> szaz: what error do you get?
[11:54] <lightbright> Xyc0: ok
[11:54] <tenzin_> hi, what is the best "Font-installer" for GNOME?
[11:54] <lightbright> Kovecses: ok
[11:54] <gnomefreak> there is kde but default is gnome
[11:54] <szaz> bob2: The install procedure just worked?
[11:54] <szaz> bob2: oh... hang on