[20:15] <rifter> it doesn't matter if I had 100GB of RAM. what I said is still true. And that other machine has 8GB. I think. It's not running right now because it needs a new drive. This machine has less than 1GB available and it meant I couldn't even run two browsers and a chat client at the same time before.
[20:15] <Pyro3d> ikonia: Yeah, that's the weird thing. Other hosts on the network can reach it fine.
[20:16] <ikonia> rifter: yes, you said about the low spec machine, but you then said you'd do the same on the higher spec one
[20:16] <Pyro3d> I'm not seeing any mac conflicts on the interfaces, unless there's other interfaces not shown in an ifconfig -a
[20:16] <ikonia> if other hosts can ping it just fine
[20:16] <ikonia> Pyro3d: so that suggest somehting like it has no return route to the host that it's being pinged from
[20:16] <rifter> it's just a general philosophy. I don't cae about the desktop software, I care about the apps I am actively using. So I make those resources available for the latter. It's why I used FVWM for ages
[20:16] <Pyro3d> ikonia: the vm host is in the same broadcast domain
[20:16] <ikonia> rifter: you'll miss out on a lot of useful integration stuff, but it's up to you
[20:17] <rifter> it's not useful to me
[20:17] <ikonia> Pyro3d: broadcast domain ??
[20:17] <ikonia> rifter: totally up to you what you do
[20:17] <Pyro3d> ikonia: network area. /24. etc.
[20:17] <rifter> if it was, I would choose to use those resources for that, giving me fewer resources for other things on the machine
[20:17] <ducasse> junke1990: probably. i don't remember how much free space there should be at the end, though, but there is a fixed number.
[20:17] <ikonia> Pyro3d: do you mean "it's in the same subnet"
[20:18] <Pyro3d> ikonia: yes.
[20:18] <rifter> totally see your point, though ;)
[20:18] <junke1990> ducasse: fixed the warning
[20:18] <ikonia> Pyro3d: so the is it 2 VM's pinging each other, or is it the host pinging the vm
[20:19] <Pyro3d> ikonia: host pinging the vm. VM's connection is a bridge to a lagg interface on the host. Packets are coming across that bridge fine, and I can see the packets from the host ingress on the enp interface on the ubuntu vm.
[20:20] <ikonia> Pyro3d: what's a "lagg" interface ?
[20:20] <Pyro3d> ikonia: aggregate link. Cisco calls them port channel, or they used to.
[20:20] <ikonia> Pyro3d: LACP link ?
[20:20] <Pyro3d> ikonia: Yes
[20:21] <ikonia> how did you make an LACP link on a virtual network ?
[20:21] <cybex_> hi all, I have plexmediaserver installed. when running "sudo update-rc.d plexmediaserver default" it responds with the help menu, implying an incorrect option. any thoughts on this?
[20:21] <fenix_peregrino> guys I just bought and HDD drive and I want to use it as internal storage devide
[20:21] <fenix_peregrino> *device
[20:21] <fenix_peregrino> how can I do this?
[20:22] <Pyro3d> ikonia: This is a LACP interface on the physical. The host has a virtual bridge adapter connected to the LACP interface.
[20:22] <ikonia> Pyro3d: but it won't use that to talk from host->bm
[20:22] <ikonia> vm
[20:22] <cybex_> fenix_peregrino: you can just plug it in and ...well use it
[20:22] <ikonia> or shouldn't do
[20:22] <ikonia> as it should be not touching the physical interface
[20:22] <Pyro3d> Yep
[20:22] <ikonia> only the virtual interface
[20:23] <ducasse> fenix_peregrino: is it connected yet?
[20:23] <liske1> Hi
[20:23] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: yes is connected
[20:23] <ikonia> Pyro3d: so on the VM is the route back to the host IP a.) set b.) set on the right interface
[20:24] <junke1990> ducasse: i don't see the option to convert it
[20:24] <ducasse> fenix_peregrino: just partition and format it with gparted, then set it to automount with the gnome disk util.
[20:24] <Pyro3d> ikonia: the route back to the subnet the host belongs to is present and on the correct interface
[20:24] <junke1990> ducasse: would that simply be fixed by writing to the disk?
[20:24] <ikonia> Pyro3d: so what happens if the VM pings the host
[20:24] <ducasse> junke1990: when starting gdisk it should say that's what it's going to do.
[20:25] <liske1> How I can use firewalld in ansible in Ubuntu ? Beacause when I install this on server (sudo apt-get install firewalld), then ansible return mi error - "firewalld and its python 2 module are required for this module"
[20:25] <ikonia> liske1: ubuntu doesn't use firewalld by default
[20:25] <junke1990> ducasse: yes but at the point where I want to write it to the disk it says "About to write GPT data. THIS WILL OVERWRITE EXISTING PARTITIONS!!"
[20:25] <ikonia> liske1: I don't think it's integrated into systemd either in ubuntu
[20:25] <junke1990> ducasse: this scares me...
[20:25] <Pyro3d> ikonia: I see icmp replys from the host back on the interface, but the vm isn't recognizing them.
[20:26] <ikonia> Pyro3d: the vm isn't recognizing them ?
[20:26] <ikonia> Pyro3d: does the vm interface see them
[20:26] <Pyro3d> ikonia: That's my best guess. And yes.
[20:26] <liske1> ikonia: I install this and when I show systemctl status firewalld then return: Active
[20:26] <ducasse> junke1990: i can't remember if i got that, sorry. i wouldn't risk it, as i've already said a dozen times.
[20:26] <ikonia> liske1: right, thats just s systemd unit
[20:26] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: the thins ithat i did that and didnt work. Probably I did it on an incorrect manner
[20:26] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: what are the steps?
[20:27] <ikonia> Pyro3d: Hmmmm, let me have a think for a moment,
[20:27] <liske1> ikonia: thanks :)
[20:27] <junke1990> ducasse: thanks, I'm going to make a backup and wait for that to finish
[20:28] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: I cant write anything on the disk. I cant create folders, paste files etc
[20:28] <ducasse> fenix_peregrino: select the disk, make partition(s), format it/them as ext4 (for use with linux)
[20:28] <ducasse> fenix_peregrino: run gparted with gksudo
[20:30] <Tahr-Poop> junke1990, backup partition table before converting it: sfdisk -d /dev/sdX > backup.txt
[20:31] <junke1990> Thar-Poop: would that mean that If it fails I can put back the dos table?
[20:31] <ducasse> junke1990: i'm pretty sure mine just said "converting mbr to gpt, write gpt with protective mbr (y/n)?", but i don't know what the difference was from your scenario.
[20:31] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: it says that im not the owner :( How can I fix this?
[20:31] <junke1990> I'm reading online that I have to have a 1 mb room before and after the partition
[20:32] <Tahr-Poop> junke1990, yep http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/mbr2gpt.html < read this before doing anything
[20:32] <ducasse> fenix_peregrino: what says you're not the owner? when doing what? 'it' is not very specific.
[20:33] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: it says that im not the owner so I cannot change the permissions
[20:33] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: it doesnt let me write anything on the disk :(
[20:33] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, ls -l /media/$USER
[20:34] <ducasse> fenix_peregrino: what is 'it'?
[20:34] <ikonia> Pyro3d: on the vm - does the host appear in the arp table ?
[20:34] <Pyro3d> ikonia: Yep. arp is fine
[20:34] <ikonia> and vice-a-versa ?
[20:34] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: it says
[20:34] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: drwx------ 3 user user 4096 ene 28 17:30 HDD
[20:35] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: also says "total 4"
[20:35] <Pyro3d> ikonia: Yeah. I also checked for mac conflicts on the interfaces, as I encounted the same issue with a pair of juniper srx chassis cluster last week, but I didn't see any interfaces that had the same macs.
[20:35] <ikonia> Pyro3d: well you sholdn't as there is only the host and the vm in play here
[20:35] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, can you paste  sudo parted -l ?
[20:36] <Pyro3d> ikonia: Yeah, but I didn't think I should've with the srxs as well.
[20:36] <ikonia> Pyro3d: the host can't allocate the same mac to a vm
[20:36] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: it says http://pastebin.com/teELGmBg
[20:37] <Pyro3d> ikonia: It didn't so that's good.
[20:38] <ioria> fenix_peregrino,  sudo parted -l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:38] <jdm> ?
[20:38] <ikonia> Pyro3d: in the VM when the ping goes out do you see the ACK ?
[20:38] <ikonia> or do you just see the packet response
[20:39] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: http://termbin.com/qo7l
[20:39] <rifter> ok, so, now I have a question for myself again. I have lubuntu 16.10 and want to install 32 bit libraries on it. The process should be the same on it as for ubuntu. I want to know if one of you knows how to do that or can point me to a resource for the process
[20:39] <Pyro3d> ikonia: The ack? I see the icmpecho request and the echo reply.
[20:40] <ikonia> Pyro3d: so from what you're telling me my gut is telling me that for some reason traffic is going out/via the physical interface
[20:40] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: what is the problem :(?
[20:40] <ikonia> Pyro3d: that shouldn't matter itself, however depending on how your doing the forwarding (if it's going via the physical interface) you could be getting a mangled reponse
[20:41] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, so you have two disks: sda for storage i guess (gpt),  and sdb (encrypted) for the os ?
[20:41] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: yes
[20:41] <ioria> fenix_peregrino,  mount | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:42] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: http://termbin.com/1geq
[20:43] <Pyro3d> ikonia: Doesn't look like the case. I don't see those packets outbound on the physical interface. I'm going to check with wireshark for damaged frames though.
[20:43] <ioria> fenix_peregrino,  did you edit /etc/fstab ?
[20:43] <ikonia> Pyro3d: what about inbound ?
[20:44] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: nop, I just created a partition named hDD nothing more
[20:44] <ikonia> Pyro3d: that could be the problem, out via a different interface than the response can often make a mangled response
[20:44] <Pyro3d> ikonia: no icmp from the vm on the physical interface is present when pingning the host
[20:45] <ikonia> Pyro3d: does anything other than ping work ?
[20:45] <Pyro3d> ikonia: nothing works
[20:45] <Pyro3d> except arp
[20:45] <ioria> fenix_peregrino,  what's on the HDD right now ? can you reformat with msdos PT ?
[20:45] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: its completly empyt is brand new
[20:46] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: I can do anything with gparted; the thing is I cannot write anything on the disk
[20:47] <ducasse> fenix_peregrino: the disk is mounted, and appears to be owned by you. what does 'touch /media/$USER/HDD/test' say?
[20:48] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: nothing
[20:48] <fenix_peregrino> the terminal doesnt tell me anything
[20:48] <ducasse> fenix_peregrino: ok, then your user can write to it. try accessing it from your file manager.
[20:49] <fenix_peregrino> ducasse: im the user
[20:49] <ioria> fenix_peregrino,  ls /media/$USER/HDD/test     what it says ?
[20:49] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: it seemed it worked :)
[20:49] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: now I can write things on it
[20:49] <ioria> fenix_peregrino,  good
[20:50] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: this computer is new and I installed a SAPPHIRE READEON R7 240. How can I install the drivers?
[20:50] <ioria> fenix_peregrino,  no way , the last supported by amd is 260
[20:51] <ioria> fenix_peregrino,  http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMD-Radeon-GPU-PRO-Linux-Beta-Driver%E2%80%93Release-Notes.aspx
[20:51] <Pyro3d> ikonia: Wireshark isn't throwing any issues with the packets, and I can't see anything wrong with them myself.
[20:51] <ioria> fenix_peregrino,  you stay with the opensource
[20:51] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: so I wont be able to use it?
[20:51] <ioria> fenix_peregrino,  you use radeon ... or wait for something coming up
[20:52] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: what do you mean? I have an integrated video card and also the Sapphire Radeon r7 240
[20:53] <ioria> fenix_peregrino,  oh.. lspci -k | grep VGA -A 2
[20:54] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, lspci -k | grep VGA -A 2 | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:54] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: http://pastebin.com/ELqvZwh3
[20:55] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, it's a desktop, right ?
[20:55] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: yes
[20:55] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, it's ok, you're using radeon, the opensource driver
[20:55] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: so am I using both cards?
[20:56] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, nope
[20:56] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: which one?
[20:56] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, the amd
[20:56] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: not sapphire?
[20:56] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, sapphire  is the amd :)
[20:57] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: lol sorry for my ignorance. I was worried that I have bought a graphic card and i wasnt going to be able to use it :)
[20:58] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, on a desktop plugging the pci-e disables automatically the integrated
[20:58] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: perfect!
[20:58] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, whould be fun make them works with different monitors  ·þ
[20:59] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: yes that will be awesome :).
[20:59] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, yup
[20:59] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: so there is no way to do this?
[21:00] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, i guess , but never had the time
[21:00] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: can you recommend a good forum to investigate?
[21:01] <Dave114> Any idea if I create an install disk using the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick if I should be able to view that as a normal disk in OS X?
[21:01] <Dave114> i.e. since the system is failing to boot the ubuntu disk I'm wondering if I might have failed to properly create it
[21:02] <Pyro3d> Dave114: You won't be able to mount it without fuse.
[21:02] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, nope, sorry
[21:02] <Dave114> Pyro3d: isn't FUSE a Linux filesystem driver?  Trying to figure out if I should be able to view files on the ubuntu usb key in OS X where I don't think (though I could be wrong) that FUSE even exists
[21:03] <adalbert> Q, how come xrdp is very slow and x11vnc is lots faster ??
[21:03] <Pyro3d> Dave114: fuse isn't dependent to linux. It runs on BSDs and OSX as well.
[21:03] <Dave114> Any idea how I can test my startup disk?  I was able to verify the SHAsum of the file I downloaded - know if I can do the same with a disk device?
[21:04] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: ok, thank you very much for the help!!!1
[21:04] <ioria> fenix_peregrino, no proble, good luck
[21:04] <Pyro3d> Dave114: test how? What are you looking for?
[21:04] <fenix_peregrino> ioria: :)
[21:05] <Dave114> Pyro3d: the system failed to boot (beyond the initial ubuntu bootloader) ... so trying to figure out why that's the case
[21:06] <Pyro3d> Dave114: I guess you could pull the disk with dd and pipe it to openssl, but I don't know if that'll be consistent with the iso.
[21:07] <Dave114> at the moment I'm trying to use dd to copy the disk back to a file ... then will try to compare that file with the original file I tried to copy to the disk
[21:07] <Pyro3d> Dave114: What happened when you tried to boot?
[21:08] <ducasse> Dave114: is this the regular ubuntu desktop iso?
[21:09] <Dave114> Pyro3d: bootloader shows (after originally briefly flashing a message that says something like "/boot not found").  Once I select any item from the grub bootloader screen it just hangs with a black screen
[21:10] <Dave114> Pyro3d: that said, I think it may be a hardware fault ... but not quite sure.  Was planning to replace that Mac Mini with an Intel NUC once the latest ones are available locally in any case.
[21:11] <Dave114> Pyro3d: at least something is weird with the machine.  It failed to boot OS X after latest updates but will boot, e.g., OS X recovery ... so I was hoping I'd be able to try booting Ubuntu off a USB key
[21:12] <Bashing-om> Dave114: can you boot the USB to the boot menu ? then there is the option " check disk for defects " .
[21:14] <Dave114> Bashing-om: I did a fsck in OSX's single user mode and it passes the disk utility's check in OS X recovery.  OS X has been pissing me off increasingly lately though so been looking at this as a good excuse to get back to Linux on the desktop
[21:14] <Tahr-Poop> Dave114, try booting without quite splash vt.handoff flag in kernel boot parameter
[21:15] <RedPenguin> I guess badblocks never tells you if it finds any bad blocks until it's 100% done?
[21:15] <wedgie> RedPenguin: pretty sure it lists them as it finds them
[21:16] <RedPenguin> oh so it got to 55.28% so far, it's prob didn't find any yet?
[21:16] <RedPenguin> It's writing to a log and so far the console and .log are both empty
[21:16] <wedgie> RedPenguin: yeah, would have listed any it has found so far
[21:17] <wedgie> RedPenguin: though, depending on the test you're running, 55% may only be just beginning to actualy verify results
[21:17] <RedPenguin> Just giving the drive a check as some worried earlier about it saying 2 pending sectors
[21:17] <RedPenguin> read-only test (-v -s)
[21:18] <Dave114> Tahr-Poop: where does that param go?  Hit e I think to edit params but that now seems a multi-line thing
[21:18] <Dave114> Tahr-Poop: err ... I see splash on one line.  Just delete that or need something else?
[21:19] <Tahr-Poop> Dave114, remove 'quite' too
[21:19] <Pyro3d> ikonia: Any other ideas? I can provide a tcpdump taken from the vm with a couple pings from each direction if it helps.
[21:20] <kode54> Tahr-Poop: I think you mean quiet
[21:21] <RedPenguin> guess I will just have to wait and see, smartctl said at least two sectors trouble reading, but so far badblocks is 57% with no issues
[21:21] <Dave114> Tahr-Poop: all right.  It's now booking.  Hoping it's not stuck with the graphics drivers.  Showed "fb: switching to radeondrmfb from EFI VGA" and has now been sitting there for about 30 seconds
[21:21] <RedPenguin> but smartcrtl got to 90% in the long test so wonder if that means closer to end of drive
[21:21] <Tahr-Poop> kode54, ohh thanks for correction
[21:24] <Dave114> Tahr-Poop: looks like this may be the issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/843303/radeon-driver-cant-run-without-nomodeset-on-macpro6-1-with-two-amd-r9-280x-t and I don't see a full solution.  Or is there basically a need to dig for proprietary drivers for the radeon card in the machine?
[21:25] <Tahr-Poop> Dave114, well its stuck.... now add nomodeset flag in boot parameter and boot
[21:26] <Dave114> Tahr-Poop: I'm sort of wondering if I might just try recovering that OS X install and wait for the new machine before trying Ubuntu again.
[21:30] <Dave114> Trying OS X internet recovery for now - will try Ubuntu with nomodeset later tonight if that doesn't work
[21:32] <bigLanky> I just installed Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on my desktop and I am having some display issues
[21:33] <Bashing-om> !details | bigLanky
[21:34] <ragecraze> hey guys, i need help with wifi on ubuntu, everytime i log into my pc, i have to enable wifi by the commands ifconfig ra0 up and service network-manager restart. how do i make wifi start by itself?
[21:34] <kode54> Dave114 was having problems with a Mac Pro?
[21:35] <bigLanky> I have 1 Radeon HD 6850 card that I use HDMI for my main display, then I have a low end NVIDIA GeForce GT730 that I use to power my other 2 monitors
[21:35] <bigLanky> in windows, this worked just fine... in Ubuntu I had some issues, mainly with the NVIDIA card, which I did some research and NVIDIA does have problems, so I ordered a replacement AMD card foro this
[21:36] <bigLanky> now, I only have the Radeon card in... when 1 monitor is hooked to it things work properly... when I hook a second monitor in, I get no output on either
[21:36] <bigLanky> is there something special I need to do for multi-monitor support?
[21:37] <Bashing-om> bigLanky: Ouch .. preently AMD is having growing pains to deal with multi monitors .
[21:37] <bigLanky> :(
[21:37] <bigLanky> is there a recommended card that will support this?
[21:38] <bigLanky> Ideally I would like to have a similar setup to what I had where my main card powers my main monitor and a secondary card powers the 2 extra monitors
[21:38] <bigLanky> is that possible to do?
[21:38] <Bashing-om> bigLanky: Me, I can not advise in that realm .. no experience . Let's see what others here can advise .
[21:39] <ragecraze> anyone can help me with wifi issue?
[21:41] <bigLanky> ok, i will wait and keep researching, thanks for the info
[21:41] <ducasse> bigLanky: which driver are you using for the amd card?
[21:41] <bigLanky> i am trying to SSH using a private key that I have, but when I SSH it asks for the passphrase (there is none) and then it asks me for the login password
[21:41] <ragecraze> can anyone help me with wifi issue?
[21:42] <wedgie> bigLanky: you sure it's using the key? Try forcing it to use the right one with -i /path/to/private/key
[21:43] <wedgie> or use -v to get some debug output to see which key it's using
[21:43] <ragecraze> guys anyone can help me with wifi issues?
[21:44] <wedgie> ragecraze: nobody knows unless you ask a question or describe your issue
[21:44] <ragecraze> wedgie my wifi has to be enabled manually everytime i log into linux
[21:44] <ragecraze> wedgie i have to use ifconfig ra0 up and service.networking manager restart
[21:44] <ragecraze> how do i make it start automatically?
[21:45] <bigLanky> ducasse: https://s29.postimg.org/p5ov9423r/Screenshot_from_2017_01_28_14_44_19.png
[21:47] <bigLanky> wedgie: https://s23.postimg.org/6k4ss7bxn/Screenshot_from_2017_01_28_14_46_38.png
[21:48] <wedgie> seems it thinks that your key does indeed have a passphrase
[21:48] <ragecraze> wedgie u can help me?
[21:48] <ducasse> !patience | ragecraze
[21:48] <wedgie> ragecraze: no. But if you're patient maybe someone else can.
[21:48] <bigLanky> it doesn't though, none was set when I created
[21:49] <bigLanky> when I run ssh -v root@host, I see that it tries private keys in /home/biglanky/.ssh/id_rsa, id_da, id_ecdsa, id_ed25519
[21:49] <bigLanky> do I need to add my kep to that list somehow?
[21:49] <wedgie> bigLanky: not if you specify it with -i like you did. You sure the pubkey is on the remote host?
[21:50] <Tahr-Poop> ragecraze, add interface to /etc/network/interfaces http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man5/interfaces.5.html
[21:50] <Dave114> Tahr-Poop: BTW, internet recovery mode failed.  (Strangely I had to reset the PVRAM on the machine after running it as it even busted Ubuntu.  nomodeset did get me Ubuntu booted though so thanks for that help!
[21:50] <bigLanky> yeah
[21:50] <ubuntu433> very quick and urgent question - how do i reset ubuntu server via ssh?
[21:50] <wedgie> bigLanky: can you pastebin the -v output?
[21:50] <wedgie> ubuntu433: clarify "reset"
[21:50] <Tahr-Poop> Dave114, https://orville.thebennettproject.com/articles/installing-ubuntu-14-04-lts-on-a-2011-macbook-pro/
[21:50] <ubuntu433> back to fresh installed state
[21:51] <ragecraze> tahr-poop my friend im very new to this, could you explain it in a way that a newbie would understand and do it?
[21:51] <bigLanky> i am able to connect with Putty on my windows box usingn this same key... only difference is with putty it uses the .ppk, but I have created a new file on my ubuntu pc that has the key.txt file
[21:51] <ducasse> ubuntu433: you don't. reinstall.
[21:51] <wedgie> bigLanky: did you use putty-gen to create the key?
[21:51] <ubuntu433> alright, via ssh, how to?
[21:51] <wedgie> or whatever that tool is called?
[21:51] <bigLanky> yeah
[21:51] <bigLanky> well, i created the .pem file first
[21:52] <ducasse> ubuntu433: you need console access.
[21:52] <wedgie> putty uses a different format afaik. But you can convert it to openssh format.
[21:52] <bigLanky> then used puttyGen to convert that to ppk
[21:52] <ubuntu433> i have console access thru ssh :|
[21:52] <ducasse> ubuntu433: then you _don't_ have console access.
[21:52] <Dave114> Tahr-Poop: so if I read that correctly the only way to get Ubuntu running longterm there would be to stick to embedded intel graphics?
[21:52] <wedgie> bigLanky: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2224066/how-to-convert-ssh-keypairs-generated-using-puttygenwindows-into-key-pairs-use
[21:53] <ubuntu433> alright, checked again, yes i do
[21:53] <ducasse> ubuntu433: is this a vps?
[21:53] <ubuntu433> yes
[21:53] <ducasse> ubuntu433: just kill it and make a new one.
[21:53] <ubuntu433> not an option
[21:54] <Dave114> Tahr-Poop: or is the suggestion that the reason for the boot failure is that the ATI graphics card failed.  (this is a mac mini not a macbook pro but wouldn't surprise me if they're using the same hardware)
[21:54] <ducasse> ubuntu433: why not?
[21:55] <ubuntu433> because that's not an option
[21:55] <Dave114> is it possible to either resize an encrypted HFS partition or access an Apple time machine backup from Ubuntu these days?
[21:56] <ducasse> ubuntu433: you don't have an option to create a new one? or you don't want to?
[21:56] <bekks> Dave114: For the first parte, you need to ask an OSX-channel, and for the second part the answer is "no".
[21:57] <Dave114> bekks: the reason that I was asking here is that I've only got access to Linux tools - e.g. gparted
[21:57] <bekks> Dave114: So the overall answer is "no" then.
[21:57] <bigLanky> ok im going to try and export using putty gen
[21:57] <bigLanky> brb
[21:58] <barnito> anyone know of an openhab channel?
[21:59] <Dave114> bekks: all right.  Thanks anyways.  Think what I need to do is sync a backup copy of my home dir in OSX to my NAS and then just abandon the install and clobber the existing OS X partition
[21:59] <ducasse> barnito: #openhab exists, at least. next time, try alis first.
[22:00] <ducasse> !alis | barnito
[22:00] <ubuntu433> I can't assign an image to a proxmox vm because some fucked up storage i don't know about, so it's not an option
[22:00] <ducasse> !language | ubuntu433
[22:02] <ducasse> ubottu: well, you basically need a new vm, you can't "reset to factory defaults" unless you have a snapshot.
[22:02] <ducasse> ubuntu433: well, you basically need a new vm, you can't "reset to factory defaults" unless you have a snapshot.
[22:03] <FrogCast>  /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lasound
[22:03] <FrogCast> " /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lasound
[22:03] <FrogCast> opps sorry :P
[22:03] <freelancerbob> hi
[22:03] <FrogCast> I'm trying to make something, how can I find out how to link it to libasound?
[22:04] <FrogCast> freelancerbob, hello
[22:04] <freelancerbob> i have problem with this command
[22:04] <freelancerbob> for i in *.ogg;do ffmpeg -i $i $name.mp3;done
[22:04] <freelancerbob> 9: No such file or director
[22:05] <wedgie> freelancerbob: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/089
[22:06] <wedgie> aactually, no
[22:06] <wedgie> just need to quote your vars
[22:07] <wedgie> "i" "$name.mp3"
[22:07] <wedgie> err
[22:07] <wedgie> "$i" "$name.mp3"
[22:07] <ducasse> FrogCast: what are you trying to make?
[22:08] <FrogCast> ducasse, just a Makefile.linux
[22:09] <freelancerbob> wedgie: for i in *.ogg;do ffmpeg -i $i "$name.mp3";done    >>Still same error
[22:09] <FrogCast> FrogCast, its a for a piece of proprietary c software I purchased. I understand that I have to link the appropriate file, but I just don't know how to efficiently find the libs on my system.
[22:09] <wedgie> for i in ./*.ogg; do ffmpeg -i "$i" "$name.mp3"; done
[22:10] <wedgie> freelancerbob: always quote exansions. That is, always quote anything with a $ at the front
[22:12] <ducasse> FrogCast: probably better if you ask this in ##linux, it's outside what we support here. but make sure libasound2-dev is installed.
[22:12] <FrogCast> ducasse, ah, didn't even consider the -dev files. Thanks
[22:12] <FrogCast> !cookie | ducasse
[22:13] <ducasse> FrogCast: probably all you're missing, otherwise try ##linux.
[22:23] <SansiroSugata> hello
[22:24] <SansiroSugata> last time i used IRC was in 1998...
[22:24] <SansiroSugata> My God...
[22:24] <excelsiora> hi
[22:24] <SansiroSugata> hi
[22:24] <SansiroSugata> is this for real?
[22:24] <excelsiora> welcome back?
[22:24] <SansiroSugata> this is IRC ?
[22:24] <SansiroSugata> my God..
[22:25] <SansiroSugata> i Googled it accidentally..
[22:25] <excelsiora> IRC
[22:25] <SansiroSugata> people still using IRC ?
[22:25] <SansiroSugata> amazing!!!
[22:25] <MonkeyDust> SansiroSugata  this is the ubuntu support channel, confine yourself to ubuntu questions
[22:25] <SansiroSugata> Understood.
[22:25] <TheOnlyBouncer> Ohai, question, i have a laptop with a 1060 and try to install Ubuntu, but it seems not to be able to boot up the live stick. nomodeset seems not to work
[22:26] <SansiroSugata> Where can i find information on how to set up Storage Server using Virtual Space ?
[22:28] <ducasse> SansiroSugata: pretty sure that's not an ubuntu question.
[22:29] <TheOnlyBouncer> I tried both with Ubuntu 16.04 and with a daily build of 17.04 btw
[22:29] <TheOnlyBouncer> probably nouvau screwing up somehow?
[22:30] <k1l> TheOnlyBouncer: tried 16.10? that should work with nomodeset
[22:30] <TheOnlyBouncer> seems weird that 16.10 should work and 17 daily not?
[22:31] <ducasse> TheOnlyBouncer: 17 daily is a dev build, so not really.
[22:32] <TheOnlyBouncer> k will try 16.10 then
[22:34] <countingdaisies> Does anyone know more about macchanger? http://www.gnu.org/software/macchanger
[22:34] <antenne> ?
[22:35] <ducasse> countingdaisies: "know more"?
[22:36] <TheOnlyBouncer> countingdaisies, its a changer for mac addresses
[22:36] <countingdaisies> I'm wondering why I can run sudo macchanger -A wlp2s0 and get output that indicates the mac was changed, but when I do sudo ifconfig after that (after binging that wireless card back up) - is shows the old (actual address) rather than the new one macchanger said it would be?
[22:37] <countingdaisies> I've been using macchanger for a few years but have never been able to get it to work right (but that's another story)
[22:37] <countingdaisies> TheOnlyBouncer: Sorry, I get to typing and ....
[22:37] <countingdaisies> :)
[22:37] <ducasse> countingdaisies: what do you do to bring the interface up?
[22:38] <countingdaisies> ducasse: This time, it was brought down and up via the gui: > network  icon in top bar > Enable WiFi
[22:39] <countingdaisies> I have done sudo ifconfig wlp2s0 up / down before though
[22:39] <ducasse> countingdaisies: thought so. aiui, (at least some versions of) network manager will override what macchanger does
[22:40] <countingdaisies> ducasse: aiui ? <--- sorry never seen it. And, does that mean its in how I'm using it? What's the right way to do this?
[22:41] <ducasse> countingdaisies: aiui = as i understand it
[22:41] <countingdaisies> ducasse: ahh
[22:41] <Cust0sLim3n> hai
[22:42] <ducasse> countingdaisies: so, if my understanding is correct, you would need to avoid using network manager for that interface.
[22:42] <Cust0sLim3n> can someone send me their /etc/fstab and /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:42] <Cust0sLim3n> or bpaste it
[22:42] <Cust0sLim3n> preferably from 16.10 server
[22:42] <k1l> Cust0sLim3n: fstab is dependend on your exact system.
[22:42] <Cust0sLim3n> k1l, I know
[22:43] <k1l> Cust0sLim3n: i guess you removed /etc or such=
[22:43] <countingdaisies> ducasse: Oh. Does that turn this into something more involved then?
[22:43] <Cust0sLim3n> but I'm doing a debootstrap install and its just blank
[22:43] <Cust0sLim3n> k1l, so I just want to see conventions
[22:43] <Cust0sLim3n> so mine does not look too odd
[22:44] <ducasse> countingdaisies: a bit. you might be able to do it with using wicd instead, that's pretty simple. i'm not certain that will work, though.
[22:44] <countingdaisies> ducasse: thanks. I think now I know what I'm up against so I should be able to look it up and find a soln.
[22:45] <ducasse> countingdaisies: i'd try wicd-gtk as that would be the simplest solution.
[22:46] <k1l> Cust0sLim3n: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/powerpc/apds04.html
[22:46] <Cust0sLim3n> k1l, I don't believe that one
[22:46] <countingdaisies> cool
[22:46] <Cust0sLim3n> I don't think yours has entries for proc and sys
[22:47] <Cust0sLim3n> k1l, which is why I want to see a real one
[22:47] <Cust0sLim3n> k1l, I'm sure that one will work but I don't think that is what a real one looks like
[22:47] <k1l> Cust0sLim3n: as i already said: that depends on your exact hardware setup and usecase.
[22:47] <Cust0sLim3n> k1l, ok - I heard you - and I explained why I want to see one - and I explained how the one in the manual is suspect
[22:47] <Cust0sLim3n> k1l, so thanks - will get along without it if nobody is interested in sharing theirs
[22:48] <k1l> Cust0sLim3n: its not suspect. you need to think about your setup and adjust the fstab. thats it
[22:48] <ducasse> Cust0sLim3n: no, there are no fstab entries for /proc and /sys normally
[22:48] <Cust0sLim3n> ducasse, I know ... which is why I'm asking for someone to share theirs created by their installed
[22:48] <Cust0sLim3n> k1l, look - its quite simple - I asked for someone to share it - if you don't want to share yours its ok
[22:48] <k1l> Cust0sLim3n: ok, good luck with your issue
[22:50] <ducasse> Cust0sLim3n: sure, here's an fstab. *shrug* http://paste.ubuntu.com/23883497/
[22:52] <TheOnlyBouncer> k1l, hmm 16.10 nomodeset also does not work for this system
[22:53] <k1l> TheOnlyBouncer: what is the exact error? where does it stop?
[22:53] <TheOnlyBouncer> no error, just a blinking/resetting probably during starting X
[22:54] <countingdaisies> You know, there's another thing I've wondered about for years and never taken the time to ask. Problem: I'd like to answer questions here too but I have to keep making progress on other things at the same time. What ends up happening (in practice) is that the chat window gets buried under the other applications I'm working with and I have no convenient way to identify questions I can answer...
[22:54] <countingdaisies> ...and when they are asked.  Question: I'm wondering if there are techniques, additions software, additional configuration, or tweaks that would solve the problem and help me participate in the community more?
[22:54] <k1l> can you install using the internal gpu? then install the nvidia driver and change to the nvidia gpu?
[22:54] <countingdaisies> holy .....
[22:54] <countingdaisies> sorry
[22:54] <TheOnlyBouncer> k1l, can't there is no internal gpu
[22:55] <Cust0sLim3n> thanks ducasse - so installed used UUIDs or did you make them uuids ?
[22:56] <Cust0sLim3n> acutally nvm - its not use lvm - where I'm actually unsure about convention - but thanks - at least I'm clear about whether or not I should worry about mounting shm
[22:57] <k1l> TheOnlyBouncer: hmm, dont know then, sorry. maybe others know about a solution
[22:57] <ducasse> Cust0sLim3n: installer uses uuids, also for lvm.
[22:58] <pos> anyone care to confirm a bug?
[22:58] <Cust0sLim3n> thanks ducasse
[22:58] <ducasse> countingdaisies: i briefly scan my irc client every now and then and read the latest few messages in a few specific channels.
[22:58] <pos> log into an x session, open a few windows, etc. then ctrl+alt+f1 and login as root, run a command or two and then ctrl+d. what happens to your x session?
[22:58] <bekks> pos: Best way to do so would be filing a bug report, and people will triage it.
[22:59] <k1l> pos: on ubuntu root account is not activeated
[22:59] <countingdaisies> ducasse: right on
[22:59] <k1l> *activated
[22:59] <TheOnlyBouncer> so yeah, laptop. 1060, no way of getting to a installer...
[22:59] <pos> k1l, ok, old habit. anyway, the x session gets frakked. prolly the same with a normal user instead of root
[23:08] <k1l> pos: cant test that here. best to file a bug report
[23:08] <k1l> !bug | pos
[23:08] <ducasse> pos: it's not, i can login to console, run stuff and exit just fine. doesn't affect x in any way unless i tell it to.
[23:09] <pos> ducasse, intel graphics?
[23:09] <ducasse> pos: intel on one system, amd on another.
[23:10] <pos> strange. same behavior across three diff systems here
[23:11] <ducasse> pos: ubuntu version?
[23:12] <pos> 16.04.1
[23:12] <pos> i found it strange that terminal activity for one user can have any effect on another user
[23:13] <bekks> pos: How do use do that, time sharing on the seat in front of the computer? :)
[23:14] <pos> nah, i avoid sudoing in an x session and do root stuff in its own tty
[23:14] <bekks> pos: thats not related to the things above, is it?
[23:15] <pos> bekks, well, if I'm logged into X as a normal user and want to do apt-get update ; apt-get install something
[23:15] <RedPenguin> looks like I may have finally gotten somewhere looking at this drive, it seems to be very sluggisgh at 95.55% badblocks
[23:15] <bekks> pos: I'd just open a terminal window then, and run sudo apt ...
[23:15] <pos> i do that as root in the tty, when I then log out x is frakked
[23:16] <pos> bekks, nah, I don't sudo in x sessions
[23:16] <bekks> pos: On Ubuntu, root doesnt have a password, so you cant login as root.
[23:16] <pos> bekks, i can
[23:16] <pos> ofc, i don't do a normal install :)
[23:17] <bekks> pos: So do a "normal" install, and try it again then.
[23:17] <TheOnlyBouncer> ffs not even xforcevesa works...
[23:17] <pos> ...
[23:19] <i7ch> hello people. i'm having the dumbest issue: trying to install 16.04 and when graphical setup should start, it sets some resolution that apparently is not supported by the display. any way i can specify (lower) the resolution from the live image?
[23:20] <demonspork> I have an Ubuntu VM on an ESXI host. There are some major problems, commands will take a minute to run sometimes, it randomly seems to freeze. The rest of the time it is fast, all storage is SSD speeds, network works right. I noticed that I have 20GB of RAM listed, but I am using 808M and 149M is free. Does this mean that Dynamic memory is turned on for this VM, and could it also be the problem?
[23:21] <Bashing-om> i7ch: nVidia graphics ? ,, might try the nomodeset boot parameter .
[23:22] <i7ch> Bashing-om, yea, nvidia card. i tried with setting custom modes, but it crashes right after "Ubuntu GNOME ...." thingie.
[23:22] <i7ch> should i try with just plain nomodeset ?
[23:24] <Bashing-om> i7ch: Yeah, .. but is the .iso verified and the copy as image verified ?
[23:25] <i7ch> does it matter ?
[23:25] <i7ch> you're referring to hashes ?
[23:26] <Bashing-om> !md5sum | i7ch
[23:26] <i7ch> Bashing-om, i know about md5sum. but what is has to do with it ?
[23:27] <ducasse> demonspork: try #ubuntu-server, perhaps they have more experience with ubuntu on esxi
[23:32] <santos177> hello
[23:33] <ducasse> demonspork: i don't know if you need the open-vm-tools for esxi also, are those installed?
[23:34] <i7ch> nevermind .got it. just specify "video=[desiredresolution]
[23:34] <bekks> ducasse: you dont need them, and they will conflict with the VMware vmtools, but essentially they arent needed (both of them).
[23:35] <Bashing-om> i7ch: Well nice to build on a firm foundation, no ? Particularly when there are problems .
[23:35] <ducasse> bekks: ack, thanks. good to know.
[23:37] <wedgie> these days open-vm-tools are preferred over vmware tools, per vmware.
[23:48] <psichas> guys, could someone to say, how to reply for email conference with kmail? ;)
[23:55] <bekks> psichas: By clicking "Answer"?
[23:55] <bekks> psichas: It's an email, basically.
[23:56] <psichas> bekks, i just want reply to all
[23:58] <psichas> bekks, so if i will use reply to all everyone'll get email ? i don't know, i see only one email in the fiels "sen to"
[23:58] <Daniel_Carver> bazhang: Please refrain from idling in #ubuntu-ops.
[23:58] <Daniel_Carver> This is only for ops.


[06:46] <dholbach> good morning
[11:28] <Laney> ochosi: who writes light-locker for you guys? :-)
[11:29] <Laney> Just looking at your diff & I think life would be easier if you used GDesktopAppInfo and GSettings from glib instead of manually parsing the desktop file and finding its Exec= line
[11:37] <ochosi> Laney: i'm one of the two maintainers/authors of light-locker
[11:37] <Laney> Well, saw it go by in the queue and noticed that
[11:37] <ochosi> we considered introducing some sort of configuration storage, it's still on the roadmap
[11:37] <Laney> Reading the options out of the exec line doesn't seem like the easiest way to do it
[11:38] <Laney> gsettings isn't too bad to use, I recommend it
[11:38] <ochosi> for the moment, the desktop file is the best available workaround for us
[11:38] <Laney> GDesktopAppInfo has built in support for finding the user's copy if it exists btw, that's why I recommend that
[11:38] <ochosi> yeah, it's mostly a question of picking up dependencies along the way and providing light-locker for as many distros as possible
[11:38] <ochosi> but i guess we can pick up the same depends as lightdm
[11:38] <Laney> both standard functionality
[11:39] <ochosi> mhm, i'll discuss it with cavalier once we've fixed that strange issue with suspending
[11:39] <Laney> shouldn't introduce any depends outside of glib
[11:39] <ochosi> mhm, sounds good
[11:39] <Laney> and gobject-introspection since you're python
[11:39] <ochosi> yeah, actually that python app was written very quickly
[11:39] <ochosi> at first there was no plan to provide a separate configuration dialog for light-locker
[11:40] <ochosi> we wanted to integrate that in xfce4-power-manager
[11:40] <ochosi> but then the small python app seemed like the best fallback plan for 14.04
[11:40] <Laney> nod
[11:40] <ochosi> it's funny how both unity and xubuntu took a (slightly risky) leap to a new locker in 14.04
[11:41] <ochosi> (i have to admit, i would've loved it to be light-locker, cause then we'd have some common bugfixing)
[11:41] <Laney> yeah, people realised that 1995-style lock screens aren't cool any more
[11:41] <ochosi> :)
[11:42] <ochosi> i'm pretty sure in a few years they will be cool again
[11:42] <ochosi> then we'll have to port xscreensavers various crazy animations to our lockscreens :p
[11:42] <Laney> true, I do miss floating teapots
[11:42] <ochosi> huhu
[11:42] <ochosi> yeah, that was a nice one
[11:43] <ochosi> gah, i *already* feel nostalgic about that – not a good sign
[20:29] <sergio-br2> hey hello
[20:33] <Noskcaj> hey sergio-br2
[20:33] <sergio-br2> hey Noskcaj, fine?
[20:33] <Noskcaj> Yeah, pretty good. How are you?
[20:34] <sergio-br2> yeah, fine too. I have a doubt, would you help me?
[20:34] <Noskcaj> sure
[20:35] <sergio-br2> i'm trying to put VBA-M (you know?) in the repos, it is licensed in gplv2. So, what is the best to do? Try in debian or motu?
[20:37] <sergio-br2> trying to fix bug #378561