[00:00] <sudormrf> ok hold on.
[00:00] <hitsujiTMO> Mindkontrol: your vpn is behind a NAT ( as we can see from the private ip address its given ) so you will not be able to ssh to it via the external ip that the vpn connects to
[00:00] <dcplaya_> ghost dcplaya
[00:00] <Mindkontrol> sudormrf: when the vpn is connected i can connect to it fine both internally usin <IP_ADDRESS> and its external address
[00:00] <TJ-> FireStorms: if you then enable the apache2 "user_dir" module and restart the apache2 server it'll serve content from user's public_html/ directories via the URL http://localhost/~$USER/
[00:00] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, ok.  hang on.
[00:01] <Mindkontrol> sudormrf: OMG sorry
[00:01] <Steakumz> is there a way to see a room list on freenode using Empathy?
[00:01] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, what?
[00:01] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, are you sure you are using the right IP?
[00:01] <Mindkontrol> sudormrf: That was awful, When the vpn is NOT CONNECTED I CAN CONNECT TO IT FINE, When it IS connectd i CAN NOT CONNECT EXTERNALLY but i can connect INTERNALLY
[00:01] <Domaldel> Bye all =)
[00:01] <ChibaPet> Steakumz: For lack of a better answer, does it accept slash commands, like /list ? If so, there's an answer.
[00:01] <Steakumz> bye
[00:02] <TJ-> Mindkontrol: "ip route ls | pastebinit" and show us
[00:02] <Steakumz> It'e weird but Empathy seems to have no start screen.
[00:02] <Mindkontrol> hitsujiTMO: What do i need to do to get ssh to work while i am using the vpn?
[00:02] <sulivan> to ouvindo um link park pra nostalgia
[00:02] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, ok.  so you tried to SSH in to the 192.168 address when connected over VPN and you can't?
[00:02] <hitsujiTMO> Mindkontrol: a different provider
[00:02] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, LOL
[00:03] <FireStorms> TJ-, I see thank you. I'm using Nginx as a server which runs in a virtualbox which i connect to using ssh. So just a little confused with choosing dir locations :P
[00:03] <Steakumz> it just asks me what room I want to join, and I had to manually type #ubuntu
[00:03] <Mindkontrol> hitsujiTMO: So it is a result of the vpn method?
[00:03] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, please answer the question
[00:03] <Mindkontrol> sudormrf: i can connect using <IP_ADDRESS> no problem either way
[00:03] <hitsujiTMO> Mindkontrol: you need to use a vpn that provides bridged networking, not NAT
[00:03] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, so what is the problem?
[00:03] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, I am confused.  If you are on the VPN why do you want to connect to it using the public IP?
[00:03] <Mindkontrol> sudormrf: it doesnt work
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: hes vpn connects to a private address network, so its behind a nat
[00:04] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, maybe split horizon issues?
[00:04] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, what is your IP at home when you are behind your router?
[00:04] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, is it a 192.168 address?
[00:04] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: so when he ssh's to the external ip, its sshing to the vpn server rather than his manchine
[00:04] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, specifically, is it a <IP_ADDRESS>/24 address?
[00:05] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, but he just said he can ssh in to the <IP_ADDRESS> address?
[00:05] <sudormrf> LOL I am confused.
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: his ip is <IP_ADDRESS> <- private ip range
[00:05] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: he wants to ssh from out side the network
[00:05] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, so he CAN ssh in while he is over VPN, but he CAN'T ssh in if he is not connected to VPN.  correct?
[00:06] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: eg, if hes at work/college he can ssh in and start some torrents downloading
[00:06] <Mindkontrol> hitsujiTMO: Boom that is what i want
[00:06] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, without being connected to VPN.  right?
[00:06] <Mindkontrol> sudormrf: I want the vpn active while i ssh in externally
[00:06] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, why?
[00:07] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: isp blocking torrents
[00:07] <Mindkontrol> sudormrf: for what hitsu said, so i can manage my box remotely
[00:07] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, what you are saying is working and what you are saying you want are confusing because to me it sounds like things are working how they should be.
[00:07] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, that makes sense
[00:07] <hitsujiTMO> Mindkontrol: how much are you paying for the vpn?
[00:08] <Mindkontrol> hitsujiTMO: i paid 45$ for a yr
[00:08] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, couldn't he bridge the adapters and get it working?
[00:09] <Anton__> I have a VPN on my VPS but when I connect to my VPN on my VPS, I get disconnected since it has a different IP. Some guy told me to set a static route to my home IP through the default gateway but I don't know how to do that. How do I fix this?
[00:09] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: he needs a public ip from his vpn interface so he can ssh to it. the public ip that he gets is that of the vpn server
[00:10] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, would this work? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6759299/
[00:10] <Mindkontrol> Yes
[00:11] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, meaning if he ran that on the remote end it should allow ICS between the interfaces.  Or am I thinking about this wrong?
[00:11] <hitsujiTMO> Mindkontrol: see if they offer ips too. thats what you need. a bridged connection. otherwise look into getting a vps and setting up your own vpn server
[00:11] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: no that will only work for the vpn server, which he has no access to. thats the companies server
[00:12] <Mindkontrol> hitsujiTMO: thanks man! Now i at least have something to research further
[00:12] <hitsujiTMO> Mindkontrol: no problem
[00:13] <Mindkontrol> hitsujiTMO: since u know what i am going for, would you suggest a diferent setup in the future?
[00:14] <hitsujiTMO> Mindkontrol: i rent a dedicated server for that kind of stuff so i have full control of whats going on. A VPS would be the best then I could recommend. But may have issues finding one with the decent bandwidth thats not overly shared
[00:14] <Mindkontrol> hitsujiTMO: What kind of price range is that kind of setup?
[00:14] <hitsujiTMO> Anton__: "I get disconnected since it has a different IP" lets start here... disconnected from what exactly?
[00:15] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, ok I am lost.
[00:15] <hitsujiTMO> Mindkontrol: really depends on the company $5-$20/m seems average for a basic setup
[00:15] <hitsujiTMO> Mindkontrol: what company are you using atm?
[00:15] <gillian_> WHy cant I see settings of my terminal?
[00:16] <Mindkontrol> hitsujiTMO: so your talking about something like a seedbox? I use privateinternetaccess.com
[00:16] <Mindkontrol> hitsujiTMO: signed up on a whim to try it out, price was np
[00:17] <hitsujiTMO> Mindkontrol: in a sense like a seedbox but a seed box usually has a specific setup. a vps should allow you install whatever services you want, such as webserver/vpn/etc
[00:17] <Beldar> gillian_, Are they in the top panel, in unity the top bar is there at times
[00:18] <Mindkontrol> hitsujiTMO: ok, i understand. ill look into that stuff! Thanks again
[00:18] <hitsujiTMO> Mindkontrol: seems they dont offer a briged connection at all
[00:18] <sudormrf> TJ-, are you still around?
[00:19] <Mindkontrol> hitsujiTMO: yeah, i figured i would look into something else when my yr was up. learn as much as i can until then
[00:19] <gillian_> setTHe settingsbar in the terminal isnt there. Not sure how to make it appear.
[00:19] <Guest79602> is there any assembly language channel on freenode?
[00:19] <Krenair> Hi, how do you take an exact copy of / (including everything under it)?
[00:19] <gillian_> Using Mint if that helps anything.
[00:19] <Beldar> gillian_, Mint is not supported here is all.
[00:19] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, so the problem is his provider won't let him bridge the connection himself?
[00:19] <hitsujiTMO> !alis | Guest79602
[00:19] <Krenair> Last time I tried it managed to end up with a destination file size much larger than the source (to the point where my new 2TB hard drive couldn't even store it)
[00:20] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: he doesn't have control of the pc at the other end. So he can't do it.
[00:20] <gillian_> Oh okay. Isn;t there a general key combination to make the settingspanel appear?
[00:20] <Krenair> I'm trying to do this as a backup so I can upgrade to 13.10
[00:20] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, I suppose I don't understand how he doesn't have control of it since he can ssh in and issue commands?
[00:20] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: he's not renting a machine, just the link
[00:20] <hitsujiTMO> sudormrf: no the ssh is to his own home server
[00:20] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, ooooohhhhhh
[00:21] <gillian_> Nevermind I found it.
[00:21] <Beldar> gillian_, We can't support mint as we don't know what bis different in it, never seen a key combo for that.
[00:21] <jay_m> hi Krenair
[00:21] <Beldar> is*
[00:21] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, I totally read this whole thing as he was renting a VPS
[00:21] <hitsujiTMO> Mindkontrol: actually wait, have an idea
[00:21] <Mindkontrol> sudormrf: I can only ssh in when the machine is NOT connected to the vpn
[00:22] <hitsujiTMO> Mindkontrol: does your home router have nat forwarding?
[00:23] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, maybe backup first.
[00:23] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, what model is your home router?
[00:23] <Mindkontrol> NAT filtering Secured or Open
[00:23] <Mindkontrol> its a crappy netgear wireless wnr2k
[00:24] <hitsujiTMO> Mindkontrol: it should so then. is your home server setup with a static ip?
[00:24] <gillian_> Thanks baldar. It was very easy anyway. Right Click -> Show Menubar. Lol.
[00:24] <gillian_> I asked questions too soon.
[00:24] <Mindkontrol> hitsujiTMO: no, router assigns the ip
[00:26] <sudormrf> hitsujiTMO, you mean from his ISP or through the router?
[00:26] <sudormrf> Mindkontrol, if hitsujiTMO just means through the router it is easy enough to set the server IP to static.
[00:26] <hitsujiTMO> Mindkontrol: heres what you should do. set the server up with a static ip outside the dhcp range. then set up your router to forward a high port like 3422 to static.ip.of.server:22     .... then you could setup a dynamic dns server such as http://freedns.afraid.org/ to get a domain name attached to your home ip. then you can ssh to your home directly
[00:28] <Krenair> jay_m, ...?
[00:28] <hitsujiTMO> Mindkontrol: that way you can still use the vpn you're using
[00:28] <jay_m> oh sorry
[00:28] <jay_m> just a hello
[00:28] <jay_m> testing out this chat
[00:28] <Krenair> ... hi
[00:28] <hitsujiTMO> !test | jay_m
[00:28] <jay_m> :P
[00:28] <jay_m> oh
[00:28] <Mindkontrol> hitsujiTMO: Ok! I will look that up right now
[00:33] <Anton__> I have a VPN on my VPS but when I connect to my VPN on my VPS, I get disconnected from my VPS since it gets a different IP. Some guy told me to set a static route to my home IP through the default gateway but I don't know how to do that. How do I fix this?
[00:34] <hitsujiTMO> Anton__: when you get disconnected is it from ssh or what?
[00:35] <Anton__> hitsujiTMO_: vnc viewer but i cant connect to it without a reboot
[00:36] <daftykins> Anton__: can you pastebin the output of 'route -n' before and after connecting?
[00:37] <Mindkontrol> hitsujiTMO: how do i know my dhcp range?
[00:37] <Anton__> daftykins_: I can pastebin output of route -n before connecting but not after since I get disconnected from the VPS that i use
[00:38] <daftykins> Anton__: well you can run local commands any time, just save then in a text file or something
[00:38] <hitsujiTMO> Mindkontrol: should be somewhere in your router settings
[00:40] <YOURBESTFRIEND> can someone take a screenshot of the default ubuntu font settings in gnome tweak tools?
[00:40] <YOURBESTFRIEND> I switched to fedora and I want the same font settings as ubuntu
[00:40] <Darkangel> i give ya 1
[00:41] <Darkangel> her in a sec
[00:41] <Darkangel> here*
[00:42] <FuuqUmiist> so what ever happen to the Ubuntu phone?
[00:43] <Beldar> !touch
[00:43] <kruxoman_> Nexus 4 is still targeted
[00:45] <YOURBESTFRIEND> Darkangel: can you host it on imgur, please? for some reason the transfer failed
[00:46] <Darkangel> noticed fixin the issue
[00:49] <Anton__> daftykins_: pastebin of route -n before connecting and without adding "ip route replace default via "my vps IP" dev venet0
[00:50] <daftykins> oh that's what you're doing? 0o
[00:51] <Darkangel> thats the default Ubuntu font dettings
[00:51] <Darkangel> iuf that is waht ur askin
[00:52] <Anton__> daftykins_: what?
[00:53] <YOURBESTFRIEND> the transfer failed again
[00:54] <Darkangel> all right ill give ya a link in a sec
[00:55] <daftykins> Anton__: you run the above manually after connecting?
[00:58] <Anton__> daftykins_: when I run openvpn --config "...".ovpn and connect to the vpn server without replacing default gw with an IP address, I get error saying "couldn't redirect default gateway"
[01:01] <daftykins> Anton__: hmm, i don't have enough experience with it to know the perameters that can be present within that file, but perhaps you can avoid it. obviously the answer is to not change your default route
[01:02] <YOURBESTFRIEND> Darkangel: can you just msg me?
[01:03] <YOURBESTFRIEND> I think my irc client might be broken, at least the transfer functionality
[01:03] <Darkangel> kk
[01:04] <Darkangel> well ill call the names of the settings for the fonts will that help?
[01:04] <YOURBESTFRIEND> Darkangel: yeah that will do
[01:04] <Darkangel> Text scaling factor 1.0
[01:04] <Anton__> daftykins_: I opened a support ticket on my VPN service yesterday and the staff told me to set a static route to my home IP through the default gateway but I don't know how 2 do that and they haven't responded yet, probably tomorrow. Do you know how to do this?
[01:05] <Darkangel> hinting ... slight
[01:05] <Darkangel> antialiasing Rgba
[01:05] <Darkangel> Default font .... Ubuntu
[01:06] <Darkangel> Document font ... Sans
[01:06] <Darkangel> Monospace font ... Ubuntu (13)
[01:06] <Darkangel> window title font ... Ubuntu bold
[01:07] <TJ-> Anton__: "sudo ip route add $HOME_PUBLIC_IP dev $ETH_INTERFACE_PUBLIC src $VPN_SERVER_IP_PUBLIC" ... that's manually. You'd need to add an entry to the VPS server's network configuration file to make that permanent over restarts
[01:07] <Beldar> !screenshot | Darkangel
[01:08] <Darkangel> now if u dont have much fonts i can help with that open "Synatic package manager" and i can help ya from there to get a large selecting of Fonts for ya
[01:11] <gmachine_24> greetings earthlings. I built a media server running Ubuntu 13.x 64-bit; simple machine, has onboard AMD Trinity (Radeon HD 7540D) video chip; I need to install a driver and/or configure the video bc, although I plan to run it headless, I need to be able to read the screen when/if a monitor is attached.
[01:12] <Anton__> TJ_: "Cannot find device src"
[01:12] <gmachine_24> lspci | grep VSA ...>there is a controller for the chip recognized
[01:13] <gmachine_24> btw, I need/want to do configuring via the command line (I am logged in from another computer using putty)
[01:13] <Sirisian|Work> For some reason visudo isn't working for me. I added "%myusername ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /home/sirisian/Desktop/ubuntu/foo.sh" to the end but when I execute that command it simply says: "sudo: myusername : 3 incorrect password attempts ; TTY=unknown ; PWD=/home/myusername ; USER=root ; COMMAND=/bin/ln -sf /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/New_York /etc/localtime" Is there an issue with the file being in the home directory of the user?
[01:14] <Guest79602> bye guys have a nice day / night
[01:14] <gmachine_24> Ubuntu help pages say xserver-xorg-video-radeon driver is now the default for this chip; how can I make sure this is installed and how do I configure it? TIA
[01:16] <gigglefight> please direct me to a how to install using superbootloader a splashscreen loading screen like from the movie Her. I've done my best using different keywords. suggestions, recommendations are welcomed. :)
[01:18] <gmachine_24> going once, going twice, . . . .
[01:18] <gmachine_24> gigglefight: you want to replace the ubuntu splash screen, is this correct?
[01:19] <gigglefight> yes
[01:19] <Mindkontrol> hitsujiTMO: what is a valid ip to set my server to that is outside the dhcp range x.x.x.254?
[01:19] <gmachine_24> gigglefight: http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/07/install-change-boot-screen-theme-ubuntu-13-04/
[01:20] <gigglefight> thank you! in addition, would there be an author how has done just that, icon and bar theme download?
[01:21] <gigglefight> let me rephrase, link to themes
[01:22] <gmachine_24> gigglefight: have you read the link yet
[01:22] <Mindkontrol> D
[01:22] <gigglefight> http://ubuntu-art.org/ got it! :) thank you gmachine_24
[01:23] <gmachine_24> np
[01:25] <Aristide> Hi !
[01:26] <Aristide> I have a problem with mouse :) every 2s, mouse disappear, and I must move cursor for show mouse again ... Is not very a problem in Desktop, but In game, mouse can be moved, but every 2s, cursor is moved to screen center
[01:27] <Aristide> So, I can't play in many games :(
[01:28] <Schrodinger`Cat> Aristide, hum
[01:28] <Bitwise> Hello. I've created a bridge using the NetworkManager GUI named bridge0 and I did ifconfig bridge0 up but how do I actually connect to it?
[01:28] <Schrodinger`Cat> its because i eated your mouse, ariscop
[01:28] <Aristide> Schrodinger`Cat: ...
[01:28] <ariscop> you ate my mouse?
[01:28] <Aristide> Tab fail :')
[01:29] <Aristide> xD
[01:29] <Schrodinger`Cat> ariscop, sorry guy :)
[01:29] <Schrodinger`Cat> Aristide, you have the mouse that disapear on the kde desktop too?
[01:29] <Aristide> Yes
[01:29] <Mindkontrol> Schrodinger`Cat: R.I.P. R.A.W.
[01:30] <Schrodinger`Cat> Aristide, Menu | System Settings | Desktop Effects | All Effects tab
[01:30] <Schrodinger`Cat> Click on Zoom wrench icon to get Zoom dialog.
[01:30] <Schrodinger`Cat> Check Enable Focus Tracking checkbox.
[01:33] <hisforever> really new to instaling software in Zorin, How to I get tux3d installed?
[01:33] <Beldar> hisforever, zorin is not supported here.
[01:33] <hisforever> ok ty
[01:33] <Bitwise> Hello. I've created a bridge using the NetworkManager GUI named bridge0 and I did ifconfig bridge0 up but how do I actually connect to it?
[01:34] <vfw> hisforever: Try ubuntu
[01:35] <vfw> !ics Bitwise
[01:35] <vfw> !ics | Bitwise
[01:35] <Bitwise> vfw, I already saw that.
[01:35] <Bitwise> I tried it but I still can't ping -I eth1 google.com
[01:36] <vfw> Bitwise: You'll need to be more specific with your questionl.
[01:37] <Bitwise> vfw, I'm trying to bridge wlan0 and eth1. I went into NetworkManager and chose "Share to other computers" on eth1 but when I run `ping -I eth1 google.com` I still don't have any connection.
[01:38] <Bitwise> It does work when I plug an ethernet cable in and use it to share a connection with other devices.
[01:38] <vfw> Bitwise: route -n  #What does that say?
[01:39] <xdx> hiiiii
[01:39] <vfw> Bitwise: What is it then, that you really want to do?
[01:39] <xdx> how are you?
[01:39] <Bitwise> vfw, I'm not trying to plug a cable in there. I just want to use this: http://daniel-lange.com/archives/53-Binding-applications-to-a-specific-IP.html
[01:40] <Bitwise> I'm trying to give an interface (preferably virtual) an IP that can connect to the Internet just like wlan0.
[01:40] <Bitwise> And use only one application on that interface.
[01:41] <vfw> Bitwise: route -n |pastebinit #Send us resulting URL
[01:42] <Bitwise> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6759606/
[01:44] <Gallomimia> Bitwise: in /etc/network/interfaces add another interface with the same name as the one you want to clone. add a :1 after the name, and set it's ip, router, and netmask\
[01:44] <davidmrvg_> SALUDOS
[01:46] <Bitwise> Gallomimia, Do you have an example?
[01:46] <Gallomimia> not handy unfortunately
[01:46] <Bitwise> I know what to put for the mask, gw, etc but I'm not sure what format it's supposed to be in.
[01:46] <Gallomimia> you can read that in the file as it exists
[01:47] <Bitwise> The current file only has the loopback interface.
[01:47] <Gallomimia> also add a line that says auto <iface name>
[01:47] <Gallomimia> oh
[01:47] <Gallomimia> yeah. it's the wireless interface right? usually handled by automatic routines in the connect-to-wireless-network software
[01:48] <Bitwise> http://pastebin.com/GB085mkf
[01:48] <Bitwise> Yup, wireless. Does that seem right or do I need to add any other lines with other information?
[01:49] <Gallomimia> it does. i can't remember the format myself
[01:50] <Bitwise> I'll restart now. Be back in a moment.
[01:50] <Gallomimia> whoa
[01:50] <Bitwise> Hmm?
[01:50] <sjgpix> # The loopback network interface
[01:50] <sjgpix> auto lo
[01:50] <sjgpix> iface lo inet loopback
[01:50] <sjgpix> # The primary network interface
[01:50] <sjgpix> auto eth0
[01:50] <FloodBot1> sjgpix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:50] <Gallomimia> you can just type ifup -a
[01:50] <Gallomimia> you need sudo privs i think
[01:50] <Gallomimia> sudo ifup wlan0:1
[01:51] <Gallomimia> or ifup -a will bring all up
[01:51] <Joris_> Does anyone have experience with figuring out screen-noise kind of errors?
[01:51] <sjgpix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6759644/
[01:51] <Bitwise> /etc/network/interfaces:6: misplaced option
[01:51] <Bitwise> 	address <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:51] <Bitwise> That's line 6 ^
[01:51] <Gallomimia> let me step away and read a config on my server
[01:52] <sjgpix> I pasted the format
[01:52] <sjgpix> sorry for flood
[01:52] <davidmrvg_> ubuntueros
[01:53] <Joris_> Like, at times, when I tilt my screen, it appears that solid blocks of color are noisy. Which is odd. And blue color blocks have a tendency to show vertical stripes.
[01:57] <TJ-> Joris_: Usually that means the cable connection plugs are loose ... especially happens with VGA connectors
[01:58] <TJ-> Bitwise: You're missing the "iface wlan0:1 inet static" line before the address. "auto..." only tells the scripts to auto-start an "iface" named "wlan0:1"
[02:00] <Michael87> alright lets say I want to transfer music to my andriod without copying and pasting all the time from file browser. I can do this easily in clementine but it keeps transfering files to my internal memory when i want it on my sd memory. please help
[02:00] <Bitwise> Thanks TJ-
[02:01] <Michael87> also if you think there is a better way to transfer files that is more pleasing to the eye on android using ubuntu. That be great. So far liking airdroid but having trouble telling it wither or not the android is connected via usb
[02:02] <Aristide> Sorry for internet failure
[02:02] <Aristide> I have always same problem
[02:02] <Aristide> Mouse disappear every 2s ... I must move mouse for display cursor
[02:02] <Steakumz> I'm trying to get MAME running on Ubuntu, but getting many error on roms. Anyone able to me with this?
[02:02] <gmachine_24> I'm having a wicked case of deja vu. I know, off topic; but it's true.
[02:03] <Steakumz> deja vu?
[02:04] <Aristide> « already see » ?
[02:04] <gmachine_24> as in "we have all been here before"
[02:04] <Beldar> Aristide, See if this happens in the guest account.
[02:04] <Aristide> :/
[02:04] <Aristide> I must create an new account x)
[02:05] <Aristide> I don't have guest account in kdm
[02:05] <Beldar> Aristide, There is already a guest account, finding out if it is just your account is a good start.
[02:07] <Beldar> Michael87, Have you asked any of this on the android channel?
[02:08] <Aristide> Ok, KDE bug when I switch to session
[02:08] <Aristide> Beldar: So, I don't have guest account in KDM
[02:08] <Beldar> Aristide, I have never used kdm, so not sure really.
[02:08] <Aristide> Beldar: I can only put username and password x)
[02:09] <Aristide> So, switch to session == crash of KDE :(
[02:09] <Beldar> Aristide, Have you tried #kubuntu
[02:09] <Aristide> No
[02:10] <Beldar> might be worth asking there to.
[02:12] <MagiWebchat> Can anyone think of what would cause the Ubuntu Server 13.10 Netinstall ISO to load up until it reaches the end of loading initrd.gz, at which point the server resets?
[02:12] <Michael87> Beldar, Did not know Android had a channel. Interesting. But this is also a ubuntu question since I plan on managing my android apps on ubuntu. the airdroid app is pretty cool on here but it has problems connecting with my android via usb for some reason
[02:12] <TJ-> MagiWebchat: corrupted image
[02:12] <Beldar> Michael87, What ubuntu release?
[02:13] <MagiWebchat> TJ-: I checked, the md5sum is correct
[02:13] <Michael87> Beldar, I'm using 13.10. looking forward to 14.04 lts
[02:13] <MagiWebchat> Might be getting corrupted during transfer to the server via IPMI/VPN, but It's happened several times
[02:13] <TJ-> MagiWebchat: memory corruption> have you run memtest ?
[02:13] <Beldar> Michael87, What android release?
[02:14] <MagiWebchat> TJ-: It's loaded before okay, but NOT when I try to boot it
[02:14] <zacarias> Hi. On my Macbook 5,2 running Ubuntu/DreamStudio 12.04.3, after chamging the file /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf to include the line options snd-hda-intel model=mb31 as explained here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook5-2/Natty (I was trying to do that to solve the headphones problem), not only it didn't solve the headphones problem, but now alsa is not recognizing my sound card. The output from aplay -l is no soundcards. Any help?
[02:14] <TJ-> MagiWebchat: Do you see any kernel messages? Are you booting with "debug" on the kernel command line?
[02:14] <MagiWebchat> TJ-: will try that in a moment
[02:14] <Michael87> Beldar, 4.1.2. it connects via usb on ubuntu just fine. Its just airdriod having problems for some reason.
[02:15] <MagiWebchat> I'll grab my other laptop so I can have a real IRC client open
[02:15] <MagiWebchat> BRB
[02:15] <TJ-> MagiWebchat: remove any other options like "splash or quiet"
[02:17] <Beldar> Michael87, I just plug in myself, airdroid is liked by some I find it to be a hassle.
[02:17] <Magiobiwan> TJ-, back
[02:18] <Magiobiwan> TJ-, did you say somethign toward me after I brb'ed?
[02:18] <TJ-> MagiWebchat: remove any other options like "splash or quiet"
[02:18] <Magiobiwan> Kk
[02:18] <Magiobiwan> Will do
[02:19] <BlueNeXuS> Hi all.  I have a problem when booting up my Ubuntu.   It is Ubuntu 13.04 running KDE Plasma.  Every time I boot my system it gets stuck at for over 5 minutes.  When it finally does boot I get this message:
[02:19] <BlueNeXuS> Missing dependency: System V IPC for python. Read documentation for installation instructions! After installation, restart KDE for changes to take effect!
[02:19] <BlueNeXuS> I've tried to read throught the documents but nothing really helped
[02:20] <Michael87> Beldar, I'm begining to agree with you. I like the interface though. Its just a pain when all it wants to do is connect wirelessly. and it needs to be connected online. thats bull crap. just stuck with the ol copy and paste per usual
[02:21] <BlueNeXuS> I can click okay, and the error message goes away and it continues to boot just fine.. but waiting more than 5 minutes being stuck at the splash screen is becoming a real pain
[02:21] <Magiobiwan> Are people allowed to use colorful phrases here to relieve frustration?
[02:21] <Gallomimia> alas, no
[02:22] <Magiobiwan> Oh hey
[02:22] <Magiobiwan> The ****ing IPMI worked for a change
[02:22] <Michael87> Beldar, for some reason I miss the zune interface. got bored of itunes. And freaken Love Android. Just needs a good offline manager on ubuntu
[02:22] <Gallomimia> bitwise: are you still there? sorry i got distracted
[02:22] <Michael87> Beldar, I'm looking forward to a future where all devices will be open source.
[02:23] <Gallomimia> open source is just the tip of the iceburg, we need open hardware open firmware and open design principles too
[02:23] <Gallomimia> but yes, that'd be a great thing to push for
[02:24] <Magiobiwan> Beginnign boot attempt with debug on
[02:25] <bamphomet> howdy
[02:25] <BlueNeXuS> nobody?
[02:25] <TJ-> BlueNeXuS: Does this show the package installed? "apt-cache policy python-svipc"
[02:26] <BlueNeXuS> i'll check
[02:26] <Magiobiwan> Oh hey. It made it past the "Loading initrd.gz" screen and is now on a black screen
[02:27] <Magiobiwan> The resolution jumped to 800x600 though, which is good
[02:27]  * Magiobiwan lets sit
[02:27] <BlueNeXuS> Tj :  python-svipc:
[02:27] <BlueNeXuS>   Installed: (none)
[02:27] <BlueNeXuS>   Candidate: 0.14-2build2
[02:27] <BlueNeXuS>   Version table:
[02:27] <BlueNeXuS>      0.14-2build2 0
[02:27] <FloodBot1> BlueNeXuS: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:27] <BlueNeXuS>         500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ raring/universe amd64 Packages
[02:29] <Beldar> BlueNeXuS, Have some patience, and use pastebin
[02:29] <BlueNeXuS> sorry :)
[02:31] <Magiobiwan> Well, progress has been made. It's not resetting after loading the ISO
[02:31] <TJ-> BlueNeXuS: Do you have the BusyTasks plasmoid script installed?
[02:31] <BlueNeXuS> yes
[02:32] <TJ-> BlueNeXuS: Then you should read its requirements more carefully!
[02:32] <BlueNeXuS> i just installed that package that it said Installed: (none)
[02:32] <TJ-> BlueNeXuS: REQUIREMENTS ... "The System V IPC module for python."
[02:32] <joolean> hey everybody, is there a way to pause or halt the update-manager when it's in the "install" phase of an upgrade?
[02:32] <Beldar> joolean, Not safely.
[02:33] <BlueNeXuS> well, the only thing i've changed  from orginal installation was to install KDE Plasma, because i really don't care for unity
[02:33] <joolean> Beldar: Yuck. Okay.
[02:33] <ubuntu22> Hi, I was wondering if anyone knew if there was a way to disable drag on drop in filezilla?  Or if it is possible to prompt the user on every action?
[02:33] <TJ-> BlueNeXuS: and several other requirements; you'd best identify the Ubuntu packages that meet those requirements and install them too, if they're not already installed
[02:33] <Magiobiwan> How long does it usually take for the netinstall to get booted?
[02:33] <joolean> Beldar: What if I suspended the process but didn't shut the machine down
[02:33] <joolean> Beldar: Theoretically that might work
[02:33] <TJ-> Magiobiwan: That would depend alot on the bandwidth
[02:34] <BlueNeXuS> Thanks TJ,, that's exactly what i am trying to do though.
[02:34] <Beldar> joolean, Your risk I would not.
[02:34] <joolean> Beldar: Okay, thanks.
[02:34] <BlueNeXuS> hence why i'm here :)
[02:34] <Magiobiwan> Well, the server is on a 1Gbps line.  to identify the precise names of the Ubuntu packages from the names given in the Requirements
[02:38] <somsip> !ot | gmachine_24
[02:45] <gmachine_24> I hate the 'wanders off to eat while he lets it load up' comments.
[02:45] <gmachine_24> that's what I meant
[02:46] <gmachine_24> as if I care
[02:48] <TJ-> gmachine_24: When I'm helping someone its good to know if they've left the keyboard
[02:48] <gmachine_24> TJ, fine. but that's not what that was.
[02:49] <DrGrov> Hello
[02:49] <gmachine_24> otherwise afk does it
[02:50] <DrGrov> Have 2 questions. Is ssh enabled by default in 13.10, running Xubuntu 64-bit? Second, is ufw just to set up with sudo ufw start? No need to alter rules? How is the default procedure on a client computer compared to a server regarding the use of a firewall?
[02:50] <TJ-> gmachine_24: I appreciated it; I'd been helping sort the issue. A little flavour doesn't harm our support activities.
[02:50] <gmachine_24> TJ maybe I'm just annoyed because no one ever seems to answer my queries. :-) And I help when I can.
[02:50] <TJ-> DrGrov: I don't think openssh-server is seeded to desktop installations
[02:51] <somsip> gmachine_24: state your problem again, and free ax-grinding services are availabel in #ubuntu-offtopic ;-)
[02:51] <TJ-> gmachine_24: maybe :) ask away!
[02:51] <DrGrov> TJ-: Okay, nothing to lose then. Just thought if it was enabled by default. Thought to start a SSH server though for easy access later.
[02:51] <DrGrov> Do I really need to enabled ufw at all while running a regular desktop, not server?
[02:51] <TJ-> DrGrov: I seem to recall having to "apt-get install openssh-server" when I test desktop installs in VMs
[02:52] <apb1963> Anyone know how I can downgrade Qt 4.8.2 to 4.8.1?
[02:52] <gmachine_24> DrGrov, the openssh-server isn't installed but I believe the client is; although I could be wrong. I've been up to my elbows in configuring a server for the past week,... or so
[02:52] <somsip> DrGrov: you do need to install ssh servers. You don't need ufw if you are not running services and are behind a NAT unless you want to be ultra sure
[02:52] <somsip> apb1963: did you install from repo?
[02:53] <TJ-> DrGrov: Ubuntu has a no open ports by default policy so you'd only really need UFW if you a) install services that listen on interfaces other than localhost, and b) you connect directly to public networks (e.g. WiFi)
[02:53] <apb1963> somsip: I installed many things from repo.
[02:54] <somsip> apb1963: ahem./ Did you install qt 4.82 from the repo...
[02:54] <apb1963> somsip: Not specifically no.  If you're asking what package I installed, that installed qt, I don't know.
[02:54] <DrGrov> Brb. the cat needs her playtime :*)
[02:55] <Magiobiwan> TJ-, back w/ Bacon, and it hasn't booted yet
[02:55] <Magiobiwan> Still stuck on the black screen
[02:55] <TJ-> apb1963: A better question might be, why do you need to downgrade?
[02:55] <apb1963> TJ-: Here's why: http://pastebin.com/gYzz6kfh
[02:55] <Magiobiwan> I wonder... Does the minimal ISO include EFI support?
[02:55] <TJ-> Magiobiwan: Are you sure it isn't just a video driver issue... have you tried switching to another TTY (Ctrl+Alt+F1) ?
[02:55] <Magiobiwan> One moment
[02:56] <somsip> apb1963: then it may be safer not to mess with it. Something has installed that as a dependency, though it might be okay with a minor version lower. Normally you would remove, then install a lower version and pin it. But it sounds like this will impact on other installed packages for you so could be messy
[02:56] <TJ-> apb1963: So you have previously managed to install a newer version that isn't in the Ubuntu archive for 12.04 ?
[02:58] <gmachine_24> I built a media server running Ubuntu 13.x 64-bit; simple machine, has onboard AMD Trinity (Radeon HD 7540D) video chip; I've used xrandr to set resolution 1280x1024 and 75 refresh .. I might be off a bit on the resolution, this is from memory my resolution might be a bit off
[02:58] <gmachine_24> the point is the screen looks like ... well, not very well some times and I can't figure out the problem; I'm going to run it headless mostly, but I need to be able to see what I'm doing if/when I attach a monitor
[02:58] <TJ-> gmachine_24: Is the display a CRT or TFT?
[02:59] <gmachine_24> tft
[02:59] <apb1963> TJ-: It would seem so....whatever package installed it didn't warn me that it was upgrading a critical component of my system, and that other software would no longer be supported and I shouldn't do it unless I no longer wanted to report bugs I might find,  or get fixes for them.
[02:59] <TJ-> gmachine_24: Usually you will do better at 60Hz with TFTs... no need for a higher refresh rate
[02:59] <somsip> apb1963: depends where the 'other software' was installed from. If that came from a repo, it shouldn't cause this error. If that is self-installed, then that's what you can get when you self-install
[03:00] <somsip> apb1963: what is it breaking anyway? And where did you install that from?
[03:00] <gmachine_24> TJ, agreed. but it was at 60 and  that was a real disaster. 75 is much better. but still there are some areas where colors switch around and backgrounds take over so I can't read anything
[03:00] <TJ-> apb1963: There is no way for package-management to install a newer version, unless you've made some very unsafe changes to the system, like mixing up releases in "/etc/apt/sources.list" or installing from a source-package outside of the package-management system
[03:01] <TJ-> gmachine_24: Is the monitor able to report an EDID?
[03:01] <apb1963> somsip: I don't know where it came from.  I've installed dozens of packages.
[03:01] <TJ-> gmachine_24: It sounds like you need the correct modeline
[03:01] <gmachine_24> TJ, although I upped the resolution only after changing the refresh rate so I'm going to switch the refresh back to 60 and maybe that will do it.
[03:01] <apb1963> TJ-: Are ppas outside of the package management system?
[03:01] <somsip> apb1963: do you ever install from non-repo sources? Is it possibly that's what's happened?
[03:01] <TJ-> gmachine_24: If you can pastebin the output from "xrandr -q" that'd help us get an idea
[03:02] <Magiobiwan> ... SO booting a normal ISO works AOK
[03:02] <Magiobiwan> I bet it's a lack of EFI
[03:02] <apb1963> somsip: are ppas considered non-repo sources?
[03:02] <TJ-> apb1963: Yes and No. Yes, because PPAs aren't approved, but No in the sense that when added as a source, apt knows how to get and install packages from them!
[03:02] <apb1963> TJ-: Then my answer is Yes and No
[03:02] <somsip> apb1963: yes, they are
[03:03] <TJ-> Magiobiwan: Did you see the kernel messages as it started?
[03:03] <apb1963> somsip: Then yes.
[03:03] <Magiobiwan> TJ-, just the loading linux, then loading initrd.gz
[03:03] <Magiobiwan> But after that finished, it went to an 800x600 black screen
[03:03] <TJ-> apb1963: OK, what you'll have to do is remove and purge the PPA. I stay away from that horror but there are others here who can give you the instructions on doing that
[03:03] <somsip> apb1963: then the maintainer of the PPA for the package that is affected has not created the package correctly. They are your point of support
[03:04] <somsip> !ppa | apb1963 (in case you want the link)
[03:04] <apb1963> somsip: And if I knew which specific package did it, then I could certainly uninstall it.
[03:05] <ZenTech> Hello everyone :D
[03:05] <somsip> apb1963: So what is it you're wanting from us now?
[03:05] <TJ-> Magiobiwan: Hmmm.... try adding "nomodeset text" to the kernel command-line if it isn't there already
[03:05] <gmachine_24> TJ, I do get a edid dump
[03:05] <gmachine_24> *an
[03:05] <Magiobiwan> TJ-, the normal Ubuntu Server ISO is working right now for me
[03:05] <Magiobiwan> So I'm
[03:05] <apb1963> somsip: Perhaps a way to determine which package(s) are dependent on qt 4.8.2
[03:05] <TJ-> gmachine_24: OK... you should look at the decoded values and compare them with the monitor specifications if you can find them with an Internet search
[03:06] <Magiobiwan> Sonuva...
[03:06] <somsip> apb1963: well I'm tired of your attitude. No more help from me. Good luck.
[03:06] <DrGrov> gmachine_24: Ok, that seems to be the case. Did not find any sshd_config file without having the openssh package installed.
[03:06] <TJ-> Magiobiwan: you were saying....?
[03:06] <apb1963> attitude?  The attitude of asking for help?
[03:06] <Magiobiwan> It reset again
[03:06] <Magiobiwan> I HATE IPMI
[03:07] <DrGrov> TJ-: It seems so yes. I have to get the openssh-server once I get some free time to set up my ssh server for outside purposes.
[03:07] <TJ-> !ppa-purge | apb1963
[03:08] <DrGrov> TJ-: I really do not need ufw enabled then since I do not use services that listen to other than localhost and not even that. I am quite sure I am behind a NAT through my router, or so it seems when looking into the specs of the router.
[03:08] <gmachine_24> TJ, AFK
[03:08] <apb1963> TJ-: thank you.  Is there a way to determine which packages are dependent on qt 4.8.2 or do I have to uninstall all ppas?
[03:08] <Corvette> Hello. Some time ago I somehow broke the wifi drivers in Ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop, and the module 'iwlwifi' wouldn't start on its own. Someone advised that I open a shell and input 'sudo modprobe -v iwlwifi' and that has worked for me ever since, all I have to do is put that command in when I start my laptop. But now suddenly when I attempt that it returns this error: "WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, it
[03:08] <Corvette>  will be ignored in a future release. What do I do now
[03:09] <TJ-> apb1963: "apt-cache rdepends <package-name>" (rdepends means reverse-dependencies)
[03:10] <Magiobiwan> Hey TJ-
[03:10] <DrGrov> Thanks for the help TJ- and somsip
[03:10] <apb1963> TJ-: awesome.  Thank you!
[03:10] <Magiobiwan> There's no way to netinstall off a floppy, is there?
[03:10] <TJ-> Magiobiwan: cripes... that's going back 20 years!
[03:10] <Magiobiwan> I can boot a floppy 100% fine
[03:11] <TJ-> Magiobiwan: I don't believe there is. Which exact netinst image are you using? I can test it here
[03:11] <Magiobiwan> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/saucy/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[03:11] <Magiobiwan> That one
[03:11] <xangua> apb1963: if it helps you can see from wich repositorie a package is with: apt-cache policy packagename
[03:12] <DrGrov> somsip: So I can safely just continue like I have when no services are going out, just radio streams?
[03:12] <Semor> How do I monitor each new/malloc operation intime  with valgrind ?
[03:12] <jbalthazar> Hi, I have a question regarding installation using netboot
[03:12] <normanclegg> Magiobiwan:  i put a drive in a modern gateway machine and did a normal install and then put the drive in an old assed HP and it booted and has been working pefectly for 4 months now.
[03:13] <Magiobiwan> normanclegg, that would work GREAT. If I could physically access the machine
[03:13] <Magiobiwan> It's about... 300 miles away?
[03:13] <apb1963> xangua: every little bit helps.  Thank you
[03:13] <jbalthazar> I'm able to get the machine to boot to the installer, and when I select either Install or Command-line install it downloads files from the tftp server and then hangs
[03:13] <somsip> DrGrov: I woudl say so. If there is no path from the outside world to your computer through your router, it's safe (subject to router exploits and other caveats)
[03:14] <jbalthazar> It won't accept any input and eventually just starts beeping at me when I hit keys
[03:14] <Magiobiwan> jbalthazar, 13.10 netinstall ISO?
[03:14] <jbalthazar> No, netboot
[03:14] <Magiobiwan> mini.iso?
[03:15] <jbalthazar> No ISO. I'm booting over the network
[03:15] <Magiobiwan> OH
[03:15] <Magiobiwan> Okay
[03:15] <DrGrov> somsip: I am just checking the NAT status on my box and there is no outside connections coming in except source ips like 192.168.xxx.xxx and 172.xxx.xxx.xxx and destination ips are 224.xxx and so forth. Nothing big though since the expirations are way in the future. Looks ok to me.
[03:16] <jbalthazar> (It's an old Toughbook without a CD drive and all my USB flash drives are either dead or in use)
[03:16] <TJ-> Magiobiwan: OK, mini.iso has an EFI system partition in the El Torito boot section, so it should UEFI boot
[03:17] <dalit> my ubuntu12.04  is behaving abnormally
[03:17] <normanclegg> drgrov PeerGuardian for linux is pretty cool and easy. I'm blocking 375,000 ip ranges and 1.25 Billion individual ip addresses.
[03:17] <TJ-> Magiobiwan: You could check that manually by choosing the system's firmware UEFI shell and then doing "fs0:\EFI\boot\bootx64.efi" to manually start the loader
[03:17] <dalit> my ubuntu12.04  is behaving abnormally, it boots up without desktop files and ceases to close application frequently
[03:18] <TJ-> normanclegg: I do that too; I pull the cable out :)
[03:18] <DrGrov> normanclegg: I use blocklists for other things than that if I am honest.
[03:18] <dalit> my ubuntu12.04  is behaving abnormally, it boots up without desktop files and ceases to close application frequently
[03:18] <somsip> !patience | dalit
[03:19] <DrGrov> normanclegg: So I am not so worried about incoming connections while seeding/downloading Linux ISOs :)
[03:19] <dalit> :)
[03:20] <DrGrov> normanclegg: Curios to know though. How did you set up PeerGuardian?
[03:21] <jbalthazar> Ahhhh, figured it out
[03:21] <jbalthazar> Okay, my question has changed :D
[03:21] <DrGrov> somsip: Ah, why did I not see this earlier? I have my connection through a LAN cable but the router just has also this neat feature of enabling disabling ports and having NAT parameters inside itself. Did not even see that far LOL
[03:21] <jbalthazar> I ran it in "expert command line mode" and I find that the CPU isn't supported as it lacks "pae"
[03:22] <jbalthazar> Any idea how to netboot with a kernel for an older machine?
[03:22] <TJ-> Magiobiwan: mini.iso with UEFI starts perfectly here for me
[03:22] <Magiobiwan> Oh fun
[03:22] <_1_Fran999> http://codes4free.net/?ref=iLx4EbTKd
[03:22]  * Magiobiwan glares at the IPMI
[03:22] <normanclegg> DrGrov: It was shockingly easy.   You add the peerguardian PPA and then do the install. And there's a GUI and everything
[03:23] <_1_Fran999> http://codes4free.net/?ref=iLx4EbTKd
[03:24] <normanclegg> DrGrov:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jre-phoenix/ppa
[03:24] <normanclegg> DrGrov:  then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pgld pglcmd pglgui
[03:24] <DrGrov> normanclegg: Thank you, you got a homepage with the info so I can bookmark it for further use? :)
[03:24] <lokus> anyone know what happened to the igmp_max_memberships procfs file? i can't find it on my 12.04 system, it's there on 10.04
[03:24] <TJ-> jbalthazar: The 12.04 non-pae mini.iso is here: http://www.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/non-pae/
[03:24] <jbalthazar> TJ-: The machine unfortunately doesn't have a CD drive...
[03:25] <jbalthazar> So I've been booting over the network
[03:25] <normanclegg> DrGrov:  pretty much all this https://www.google.com/search?q=peerguardian+ppa&num=100&client=opera&hs=3VK&channel=suggest&source=lnt&tbs=qdr:y&sa=X&ei=pFDXUub0OM_VqQGA1YH4DA&ved=0CB0QpwUoBQ&biw=750&bih=1134
[03:25] <TJ-> jbalthazar: extract it and PXE boot from it using TFTP/NFS
[03:25] <normanclegg> DrGrov:  I'm a noob and its been easy
[03:25] <DrGrov> normanclegg: Thank you for the link. I know that I could have Googled it myself as well :) Thanks again.
[03:25] <TJ-> jbalthazar: There's a netboot.tar.gz there too
[03:25] <somsip> normanclegg: DrGrov PPAs are not recommended here. Please be aware that they can cause problems
[03:25] <jbalthazar> Ahh, okay
[03:25] <jbalthazar> I'll give that a try :D
[03:26] <jbalthazar> Is there a reason I shouldn't use a more recent version?
[03:26] <olsonea> Hi all, I desperately need help. sudo apt-get upgrade installed a new nvidia driver that hosed my system. x wont start, and it says i'm in low graphics mode.
[03:26] <jbalthazar> (I have not mastered the Ubuntu versioning...)
[03:26] <olsonea> any help is appreciated
[03:26] <TJ-> jbalthazar: If you can find a non-pae one, then use it, but that's the last one I know of
[03:26] <jbalthazar> Okay, great
[03:27] <DrGrov> somsip: Yes, I know about PPAs but just thought it would be good to keep in mind if needed later. But now it seems like my router is taking care of the stuff itself. Thanks for reminding though :)
[03:27] <TJ-> jbalthazar: and 12.04 is an LTS and therefore still supported
[03:27] <olsonea> sudo apt-get purge nvidia* yielded no results...
[03:27] <somsip> DrGrov: fair enough. Some people take advice as "do this" and blindly follow. Just checking
[03:27] <olsonea> somsip: yeah, some people like me.../dopesmack
[03:27] <normanclegg> DrGrov:   also browser addons like Ghostery can limit connections drastically
[03:28] <DrGrov> somsip: No but it is good that you check up. I have a tendency to use my fat fingers to make a few accidental "Press Y to confirm" clicks once in a while ;-)
[03:30] <normanclegg> somsip:  is exactly right.  Using any PPA is fully and unreservedly trusting the source now and forever.  Its a HUGE step.
[03:31] <olsonea> normanclegg: exactly what i SHOULDN'T have done with nvidia...
[03:32] <jbalthazar> TJ-: That seems to have done it. Thanks :D
[03:32] <olsonea> ok, so lesson learned. can anyone help me clean up my mess?
[03:33] <olsonea> i have access to the machine via ssh, so i might be able to switch back to the nouveau driver if someone know how to get me there
[03:33] <TJ-> olsonea: which ubuntu version, i386 or x64?
[03:33] <olsonea> x64, it's xubuntu 13.10
[03:34] <TJ-> olsonea: OK and you're sure there are no nvidia packages remaining? "dpkg-query -l 'nvidia*'
[03:34] <olsonea> so, there are quite a few...
[03:34] <TJ-> olsonea: Can you pastebin the output?
[03:34] <olsonea> why didn't apt-get purge see them?
[03:35] <TJ-> olsonea: If you used "nvidia*" on the command-line in a directory with any nvidia* files in it, the shell would expand to those names, not pass the "8" to apt-get as you might be expecting
[03:35] <TJ-> olsonea: s/8/*/
[03:36] <olsonea> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6760005/
[03:39] <Sparkie> hello?
[03:39] <olsonea> Sparkie: hi
[03:39] <Sparkie> how are you?
[03:39] <olsonea> Sparkie: broken
[03:40] <Sparkie> why ? :(
[03:40] <olsonea> nvidia
[03:40] <DrGrov> somsip: Now I am wondering though.
[03:40] <DrGrov> somsip: Got a few destination IPs going to Saskatchewan Telecommunications and some random telecommuncations business in Athens, Greece.
[03:41] <DrGrov> somsip: Wondering a bit though what are these going out on my wan1 interface? The box I have is not the box I have with my current ISP. It is a branded box from my old ISP.
[03:41] <DrGrov> But the old box is still working with this current ISP
[03:41] <olsonea> TJ-: any thoughts?
[03:42] <Sparkie> is there any reason why ubuntu's wireless is so slow
[03:44] <xangua> !details | Sparkie
[03:46] <TJ-> olsonea: Yes; remove the packages that remain :) You've  had nvidia-331 installed, and previously removed that (not purged though), but you've still got nvidia-current, nvidia-304 installed
[03:46] <TJ-> Sparkie: Ubuntu's wireless isn't slow; it's just your particular configuration.
[03:47] <olsonea> 'sudo apt-get remove nvidia-331' i assume?
[03:47] <ZenTech> Sparkie, chances are it could be the network that you're connected to.
[03:47] <TJ-> olsonea: Yes... make sure you list all those installed packages just-in-case ... dependency rules should ensure that "nvidia-current" removes everything but you never know
[03:47] <olsonea> s/remove/purge
[03:48] <TJ-> olsonea: Yes, purge will remove the blacklists nvidia creates for noveau... hopefully!
[03:48]  * olsonea crosses his fingers...
[03:49] <jbalthazar> Hm. The installer seems to have hung at downloading packages
[03:49] <jbalthazar> No status bar on the installer or error message on the console
[03:49] <TJ-> jbalthazar: not helpful... any alternate TTYs you can switch to to investigate?
[03:50] <jbalthazar> I hit alt-F4 and it seems to have been able to contact the server
[03:50] <jbalthazar> Then verified "Good signature from 'Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <etc>'"
[03:50] <nitk> i created the mail server through iRedMail.....i am able to send the mail...bt when i am sending the mail from other mail address to this mail address the message sending is failed and the error is domain name not found
[03:50] <jbalthazar> And then nothing
[03:51] <jbalthazar> It's been there for a few minutes now
[03:52] <jbalthazar> (These being messagse from net-retriever)
[03:54] <olsonea> TJ-: YOU RULE
[03:54] <olsonea> Many thanks!
[03:54] <gmachine_24> TJ, so, everything is fine. I installed the igfx driver package and that fixed things.
[03:55] <TJ-> jbalthazar: is "netstat" available at that point?
[03:55] <TJ-> gmachine_24: Yay! see ... help is around :)
[03:55] <gmachine_24> TJ, dude, I figured out that one on my own. :-)
[03:55] <jbalthazar> No :/
[03:56] <TJ-> gmachine_24: sometimes your own brain just needs a prod to think for itself again... I know mine does!
[03:56] <gmachine_24> Is it TJ- or TJ_
[03:57] <TJ-> gmachine_24: I only have the hyphen because someone else got 'tj' grrrr
[03:57] <jsplifer> Device for boot loader installation: Should I choose HardDrive or should I choose my efi partition?
[03:57] <gmachine_24> Now if I can just get the usb wireless "dongle" to work I'll be set
[03:57] <gmachine_24> At least now I can read and see what I'm doing
[03:57] <jbalthazar> TJ-: Actually, it seems to be doing something in /var/cache/anna with two files named Packages and Packages.new
[03:58] <jbalthazar> I'm going to let it do its thing for a while and maybe some day it will let me know what it's up to :D
[03:58] <olsonea> thanks again... bye!
[03:59] <TJ-> jbalthazar: Sounds like it is just a very slow connection
[04:00] <TJ-> gmachine_24: I generally install "openssh-server" and have another machine I can ssh in from just-in-case of display problems... makes it quick to investigate and solve
[04:02] <gmachine_24> same for me; it's just that at the moment I'm at a Windows 7 using Putty
[04:02] <TJ-> gmachine_24: I'm at a Windows 7 beating its brains out for crashing out during installer boot when UEFI but not when BIOS!
[04:04] <ramborocks> what is putty?
[04:04] <gmachine_24> it's silly
[04:04] <gmachine_24> :-)
[04:05] <ramborocks> im pretty new
[04:05] <ramborocks> i just made my first virtual box and am impressed lol
[04:05] <gmachine_24> a program that makes it easy to connect to a LInux box via a terminal
[04:05] <gmachine_24> that is putty
[04:05] <ramborocks> ahhh! ive heard of it
[04:05] <ramborocks> just didnt know the name
[04:05] <KI7MT> !putty | ramborocks
[04:10] <gmachine_24> ramborocks, you are running Ubuntu as a virtual machine? or vice versa with windows.........................
[04:16] <nitk> i created the mail server through iRedMail.....i am able to send the mail...bt when i am sending the mail from other mail address to this mail address the message sending is failed and the error is domain name not found
[04:18] <ramborocks> gmachine im running ubuntu as the host
[04:30] <KI7MT> ramborocks, Well in that case, you don't need PuTTY .. just a terminal, Ctrl+Alt+T .. and ssh to wherever you like.
[04:35] <Magiobiwan> TJ-, what was the one nomodeset thing you suggested I try on the netinstall ISO?
[04:39] <somsip> !nomodeset | Magiobiwan
[04:39] <gustavo> I can't to install the Ubuntu on my Desktop. It stops in 45% and tells me an error. By the virtual machine, installs without problems.
[04:39] <gustavo> KUbuntu
[04:39] <Magiobiwan> Ah, thank you somsip
[04:40] <normanclegg> gustav_:  really ?
[04:40] <twenty-three> hi guys, i am running 13.10 and did an update a couple of days ago which caused bluetooth to act up. my bluetooth mouse claims to be paired but it doesn't respond to the device activity. i have tested the mouse in other computers since then, the mouse work fine
[04:40] <twenty-three> is there a way to test bluetooth is acting as it should? or a way to indetify the problem?
[04:41] <normanclegg> bleeding edge linux has its problems
[04:42] <normanclegg> bluetooth is certainly one of the things I'd imagine being a problem.
[04:42] <TJ-> Magiobiwan: "nomodeset"  prevents kernel mode-setting
[04:42] <twenty-three> normanclegg, is there a way to revert whichever update did this? or should i suck it up until the next update?
[04:43] <TJ-> twenty-three: have you tried deleting the connect and re-pairing?
[04:43] <twenty-three> TJ yeah, tried that a few times already, still claims it paired appropriately
[04:43] <Mitchell92> Hi... Just followed a guide to put Ubuntu on my chromebook (ARM processor), anyone able to actually just natively load Ubuntu as the only OS on the chromebooks?
[04:44] <normanclegg> twenty-three:   actually YES generally is, but I can't walk you through it just now.
[04:44] <TJ-> twenty-three: check "/var/log/syslog" for clues, and "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" since it might be an input device issue with the X server
[04:45] <normanclegg> TJ-:  it is 2014. Its past time to be asking recruits to read the text files.
[04:46] <twenty-three> haha, i'm reading it
[04:46] <twenty-three> i'm not really sure what i'm looking for though
[04:47] <KI7MT> One could be surprised how good man pages are as apposed to some out-dated html site.
[04:48] <TJ-> twenty-three: anything related to bluetooth or pointing devices
[04:48] <normanclegg> humor
[04:49] <twenty-three> i found something which i'll paste in a sec
[04:49] <TJ-> twenty-three: I had an incident recently where the X server was refusing additional input devices... that was with a BT mouse, too... it would disconnect a few times and eventually the X server wouldn't accept it any more
[04:49] <twenty-three> however i also found this: Jan 14 11:46:49 VAIO kernel: [   13.101179] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel. should i be worried about this?
[04:50] <rww> twenty-three: that happens on all computers using the non-free nvidia driver
[04:50] <TJ-> twenty-three: no, that is expected. It's warning that the nvidia module isn't open-source and so certain kernel facilities are disabled
[04:50] <twenty-three> regarding bluetooth i found this but i think this was when i was trying to reconnect Jan 14 11:46:49 VAIO kernel: [   13.118676] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[04:50] <twenty-three> Jan 14 11:46:49 VAIO kernel: [   13.118684] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[04:50] <normanclegg> twenty-three:  I suspect rww is on to something there.
[04:50] <twenty-three> Jan 14 11:46:49 VAIO kernel: [   13.118687] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[04:50] <twenty-three> Jan 14 11:46:49 VAIO kernel: [   13.118694] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized
[04:51] <FloodBot1> twenty-three: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:51] <TJ-> !pastebin | twenty-three
[04:51] <twenty-three> thanks, i'll use pastebin from now on
[04:53] <twenty-three> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6760258/
[04:56] <leblaaanc> hi, can i make my cifs mount mount as a different user… the only reason I ask is I can't seem to make local cifs share share the directory because it's not readable i think by the user trying to connect
[04:56] <ree3> hi, i was wondering if someone could point me in the right direction here.. i'm trying to use wildcards to process all of a particular filetype, but this is fine for the input but doesn't work for the output part of the command. my starting point is "dot -Tps input.dot -o output.ps" and i've got "dot -Tps *.dot -o *.ps"  which doesn't work
[04:56] <twenty-three> is this relevant Jan 14 12:28:37 VAIO kernel: [   18.927004] Bluetooth: hci0 corrupted ACL packet ?
[04:57] <TJ-> twenty-three: that's more like it
[04:58] <TJ-> twenty-three: the location where the mouse is used; is it close to other transmitters in the 2.4GHz band? That means 802.11b/g/n Wifi, baby monitors, CCTV systems, etc
[04:59] <TJ-> twenty-three: BT has to co-exist with all other devices in the 2.4GHz band, and it is a low-power system and can be overwhelmed by other devices close-by
[05:00] <twenty-three> hmmm, well, it is usually just next to my laptop and my additional screen. my phone tends to be around too but bluetooth is turned off in the phone
[05:00] <twenty-three> forgot to include TJ in the previous message
[05:00] <TJ-> twenty-three: How about Wifi --- that's the major culprit
[05:01] <nitk> how traceroute works??
[05:02] <TJ-> twenty-three: If you can switch off wifi on the 'phone, and temporarily use "rfkill" to turn off the laptop's WiFi radio... and see if you can then pair and continue using the BT mouse without issue... that would help rule out interference
[05:02] <twenty-three> i wouldn't think so. i rely on wifi for my laptop's internet and the modem is kinda far from here, unless it is the wifi communication to the laptop what troubles it in that case it is right next to it
[05:02] <twenty-three> i'll try that
[05:03] <TJ-> twenty-three: to use rfkill do "sudo rfkill block wifi" and to turn it back on "sudo rfkill unblock wifi"
[05:04] <twenty-three> i'll try it, brb, probably i'll disconnect from here
[05:04] <twenty-three> thanks TJ
[05:04] <TJ-> twenty-three: If the WiFi router is a long way away...
[05:04] <TJ-> twenty-three: .... that would suggest your laptop's wifi radio is sending out a strong signal ... which is more likely to overwhelm the BT
[05:07] <twenty-three> TJ, it worked!!! :D
[05:07] <twenty-three> i got it back... and i learnt a bit
[05:07] <twenty-three> TJ, thanks a lot
[05:08] <twenty-three> bye guys
[05:09] <TJ-> twenty-three: OK... so maybe the easiest possible solution is to replace the mouse batteries with fully charged ones... I have the same issue when batteries are getting low
[05:09] <twenty-three> TJ, yeah, i rely on rechargable ones, i'll try that
[05:09] <twenty-three> thank you guys, see you soon
[05:09] <FrankDux> hi please help
[05:10] <FrankDux> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2092934.html
[05:10] <FrankDux> i have a rt8192cu usb wifi card
[05:10] <FrankDux> im really confused about which driver to use
[05:12] <TJ-> FrankDux: which version of Ubuntu are you using?
[05:14] <FrankDux> TJ-, :)
[05:15] <ubuntu> tanmay
[05:15] <ubuntu> tanmay
[05:15] <FrankDux> im actually using another distro, but it should be the same here
[05:15] <FrankDux> and most of the references i find are for ubuntu
[05:15] <rww> go to your distro's support channel, then...
[05:16] <TJ-> FrankDux: not at all; kernel builds, supporting libraries, etc.
[05:17] <FrankDux> apparently it's a 64bit issue
[05:17] <FrankDux> does dz0ny frequent here?
[05:17] <TJ-> FrankDux: There's a git repo with fixes you might investigate https://github.com/pvaret/rtl8192cu-fixes
[05:18] <FrankDux> that's what i had tried i think
[05:18] <FrankDux> but what's the diff with this?
[05:18] <FrankDux> https://github.com/dz0ny/rt8192cu
[05:18] <FrankDux> ?
[05:19] <FrankDux> im actually trying to figure out the best way to run it as an ap
[05:19] <FrankDux> but it seems to fail, so i dont know if it's a driver issue
[05:19] <FrankDux> ok, ill email this guy
[05:19] <FrankDux> thanks again friends
[05:19] <TJ-> FrankDux: AP mode often requires different firmware
[05:26] <xangua> Good nigh, might want to know about software to recover files from a recently formated fat32 or ntfs partition to ext4
[05:27] <gmachine_24> xangua photorec or testdisk
[05:28] <xangua> gmachine_24: isn't testdisk incluided in photorec¿
[05:30] <gmachine_24> testdisk---> paritions   photorec----> files ...... they are bundled by cg security but they are different programs
[05:30] <gmachine_24> *partitions, even
[05:32] <xangua> gmachine_24: tought photorec was only for image files
[05:33] <gmachine_24> xangua, I don't know what you mean by image files.... but it's photorec as in photo recovery
[05:36] <Mindkontrol> anyone use w3m?
[05:40] <KI7MT> by w3m you mean the browser, standards, schema what?
[05:40] <linux> hmm
[05:42] <KI7MT> Man, this Edubuntu DVD takes forever to zsync .. lol .. Need faster Inet ..
[05:44] <pnkbst> I'm trying to install ubuntu 13.10 on an asus x202e via usb stick installed with unetbootin.  I've turned off safeboot and it says "Non-system disk" and does nothing.  how do I install ubuntu?
[05:47] <sleepy_peter> first time linux user here, how do I rice this badboy?
[05:47] <KI7MT> pnkbst, fist, that uefi stuff in a pain, no two ways around it, here's best I can advise: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[05:48] <KI7MT> *is a pain
[05:48] <KI7MT> sleepy_peter, rice ?
[05:48] <sleepy_peter> like customize the GUI so it looks pretty
[06:00] <pnkbst> KI7MT: ah, just turned off some random things in the BIOS and now it's booting
[06:04]  * pnkbst waves bye-bye to windows 8
[06:15] <thurstylark> how would I go about troubleshooting DNS issues? I just deinstalled dnsmasq because I didn't want to deal with it for now, but apparently some configuration is still lurking somewhere... Can someone help me find the problem?
[06:21] <FreewheelinFrank> I don't understand, I am admin but I don't have permissions to view my USB memory stick
[06:32] <FreewheelinFrank> apport is enabled and I cant shut it off
[06:35] <FreewheelinFrank> the privacy window shows it is unchecked but it keeps prompting me
[06:43] <FreewheelinFrank> unable to lock the administration directory
[06:44] <mantas> hello, I am looking for web desktop. It would be installed into server and users would connect to there web desktops. Something like jolicloud. But free.
[06:44] <ola4> unable to copy files to pendrive
[06:45] <ola4> when i copy it shows no errors
[06:45] <ola4> but when i see on other machne there are no files
[06:45] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i put a sd card in the sd slot on my laptop and it did not mount the sd card this time, but the SD Card has a Raspberry PI OS on it...is that normal?
[06:45] <Psil0Cybin> how can i mount the SD card that usually gets auot mounted?
[06:54] <Ouija> Can someone help me with a wireless issue in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[06:54] <Diehard> can
[06:55] <Ouija> I just installed it to dual boot with Windows 8 on my computer
[06:55] <Ouija> The wireless won't work
[06:55] <Ouija> On the Ubuntu side obviously
[06:55] <KnownSyntax> What type of computer do you have? Is the wireless card built in, or is it an adapter?
[06:55] <Diehard> Ouija: lspci pls
[06:56] <Ouija> Networking is enabled, but It says that wireless is disabled by a hardware switch
[06:56] <Ouija> I've tried several times and I assure you its not disabled by any physical switch.
[06:56] <Ouija> It was actually working before I had to reboot after an update
[06:56] <Diehard> Ouija: it can  be driver issue
[06:57] <Diehard> Ouija: I would revert to previous version of driver or look for a newer one from 3rd party
[06:57] <Ouija> Well, I was looking around on the Ubuntu forums, some other people were having similar problems
[06:58] <Ouija> I found that when I type rfkill list all into the terminal it tells me that phy0: wireless lan is hard blocked
[07:02] <Ouija> Any ideas?
[07:07] <Viking667> hey all. How do I get 32-bit skype to talk to a 64-bit pulseaudio? Apt-get isn't letting me install the 32-bit pulseaudio files, claiming I've got held broken packages.
[07:08] <Diehard> Viking667: do you have your source list updated for your os version? it's common problem
[07:08] <Viking667> the machine was only installed (with 13.10) about five days ago...
[07:09] <Viking667> err, about seven days ago
[07:09] <Diehard> Viking667: shouldn't be the problem
[07:10] <Viking667> heh. OBviously something's complaining. Sigh.
[07:11] <Diehard> hm
[07:11] <darius93> Viking667: did you enable the Canonical Partners?
[07:12] <darius93> if so remove skype and then do apt-get update;apt-get install skype
[07:12] <darius93> and it will install everything for you
[07:12] <Viking667> I enabled it just a few minutes ago. so I'll try that all again.
[07:12] <Viking667> heh. Well, it installed what didn't complain (i.e. everything except pulseaudio).
[07:12] <Viking667> I'll go try it again WITH partners enabled.
[07:22] <GoPao> clear
[07:29] <Viking667> gah. Still won't talk to pulseaudio.
[07:30] <darius93> Viking667: what did it do?
[07:30] <Viking667> Unfortunately, I have other programs that use pulseaudio, and once they do, then skype freezes, because it's trying to talk to the alsa device and getting blocked.
[07:31] <surfperch>  /join #bitcoin-otc
[07:31] <Viking667> uhm, no thanks.
[07:31] <darius93> hmm
[07:31] <supauli> Viking667: i guess you have good reason, but at least my skype works fine when talking with pulsaudio ..
[07:32] <Viking667> supauli: are you on a 64-bit install or a 32-bit install?
[07:32] <darius93> Viking667: if it freezes restart your computer
[07:32] <supauli> Viking667: 64b
[07:32] <Viking667> it's only skype that freezes.
[07:32] <darius93> im on 64bit Ubuntu 13.10
[07:32] <Viking667> supauli: hm. Interesting. Skype pulls in all the 32-bit stuff... do you happen to have libpulse0:i386 installed?
[07:32] <Viking667> ... and (for example) libasound2-plugins:i386?
[07:33] <darius93> brb
[07:33] <Viking667> because I can't seem to get them to install.
[07:33] <darius93> they suppose to install with skype
[07:33] <darius93> do apt-get install -f
[07:33] <KLVTZ> darius93: what's your problem?
[07:33] <darius93> ?
[07:33] <Viking667> darius93: skype never asks for libpulse0
[07:33] <supauli> Viking667: yeah i have libpulse0:i386
[07:33] <Viking667> hm.
[07:34] <KLVTZ> darius93: sorry, I thought we were helping you out. I just came in here. Maybe I should just ask what problems are we trying to solve today? haha
[07:34] <Viking667> apt-get install -f    , didn't show any packages to install, or remove.
[07:35] <supauli> Viking667: and yes, my skype-bin has "Architecture:  i386"
[07:35] <Viking667> should I add "skype" and "libpulse0" to that?
[07:35] <Viking667> there isn't a 64-bit skype.
[07:35] <Viking667> ... not since 2.x.something.
[07:36] <huttan> hexabit ??
[07:37] <Viking667> I tried:  apt-get install -f libpulse0:i386, it replied (among other things) The following packages have unmet dependencies... E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[07:37] <Viking667> Problem is, I can't see any broken packages in synaptic.
[07:38] <supauli> Viking667: i got mine installed just fine from the partner repo (i think) on my 13.04
[07:38] <supauli> "pool/partner/s/skype/skype-bin_<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>_i386.deb"
[07:38] <Viking667> heh. I only just installed 13.10 on a brand new machine a week ago...
[07:38] <WillFroid_Yekill> hola
[07:38] <Viking667> I've also been fiddling about trying to get the computer to play bluray movies.
[07:40] <waykool99> DL'd drivers from nVidia.com. How do I extract or install NVIDIA-Linux-x86-331.38.run?
[07:41] <WillFroid_Yekill> es la primera vez que ingreso aky
[07:42] <somsip> !es | WillFroid_Yekill
[07:44] <WillFroid_Yekill> gracias
[07:45]  * Viking667 blinks...what.... the.....
[07:45] <Beldar> waykool99, Why from nvidia?
[07:46] <Viking667> the Skype package is amd64, but the skype-bin is i386
[07:47] <Viking667> weird thing is, the skype package just has a documentation folder in it.
[07:47] <waykool99> this is Studio v10.04
[07:48] <Beldar> waykool99, 10.04 is end of life
[07:48] <waykool99> i know. sorry, how do you install a .run file?
[07:49] <Beldar> waykool99, technically the os and the drivers are not supported here is all.
[07:49] <waykool99> okies. thank you.
[07:50] <marsfligth> Please, how can I identify the cpu architecture (32 or 64 bit) from an offline operating system? In '/etc/lsb..' I found only the OS code name and version
[07:50] <Z3R0> guys i need immediate help
[07:51] <somsip> marsfligth: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[07:51] <somsip> Z3R0: ask an immediate question then
[07:51] <Z3R0> 1 min im typing
[07:51] <Viking667> marsfligth: check (for example) what file says about /sbin/init... should say either ELF 64-bit LSB shared object    or 32-bit
[07:51] <marsfligth> somsip, Thanks a lot!
[07:51] <Viking667> hang on, he said OFFline
[07:52] <Viking667> doesn't that mean the kernel's NOT running?
[07:52] <Z3R0> i have downloaded wallpaperchanger, it is a tar.gz file i am unable to install it. i went to terminal and typed cd /home/zero/Downloads/abc/wallchanger
[07:52] <marsfligth> Viking667, Thanks a lot to you as well
[07:52] <Z3R0> and then i typed ./configure then its giving an error saying-
[07:52] <marsfligth> yes it is offline
[07:52] <Viking667> Z3R0: I'd take a look at wallch.
[07:52] <marsfligth> not chrooted
[07:52] <Z3R0> ok thanks
[07:53] <Z3R0> bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[07:53] <Viking667> marsfligth: what's your definition of "offline"? it's not running, or it's running, but no network ?
[07:53] <Viking667> Z3R0: ls first.
[07:53] <somsip> Z3R0: did you tar zxf wallpaperchanger.tar.gz first (or whatever it is called)
[07:53] <Viking667> see where the configure file is
[07:53] <Z3R0> i am new to linux and am tired of finding answers to install fiels
[07:53] <Viking667> Z3R0: heh. It takes some getting used to.
[07:53] <Z3R0> no i didnt tdo anything i just extracted it
[07:54] <Viking667> Z3R0: you want wallpapers that change regularly, right?
[07:54] <Z3R0> do i have to "tar" it?
[07:54] <Z3R0> yes yes
[07:54] <Viking667> how about trying wallch  instead?
[07:54] <Viking667> that's available from the repository
[07:54] <Z3R0> i am ready to install any software
[07:54] <somsip> Z3R0: always best to use supported packages as Viking667 is saying
[07:54] <Z3R0> in repository means in software center>
[07:54] <Z3R0> ?
[07:54] <marsfligth> offline in system admin gergon. it is attached to an other OS in this case boot repair cd
[07:54] <Viking667> so start up synaptic or whatever you use
[07:54] <Z3R0> i have synaptic installed
[07:55] <Viking667> good.Fire it up (sudo synaptic)
[07:55] <Z3R0> done
[07:55] <Viking667> in the "Quick Search" type "wallch"
[07:55] <Beldar> Z3R0, I use this wallpaper changer it is a deb and easily installable. http://wall-changer.sourceforge.net/
[07:55] <Z3R0> ok done
[07:55] <Viking667> I can certainly recommend wallch
[07:56] <Viking667> Z3R0: so, now you tick the box beside wallch, and select "Install"
[07:56] <Viking667> or "select for installation"
[07:56] <Z3R0> oh ok, now i  right click and mark for install it right>
[07:56] <Z3R0> yeah ok 1 min
[07:56] <Viking667> I'll head off so I can go solve other problems.
[07:57] <Z3R0> ok thanks for the help
[07:58] <Z3R0> ok installed, now how can i know the names of softwares in synaptic?
[07:58] <Z3R0> ex, i want to install a music player how can i know what is it called
[08:00] <marsfligth> Viking667, into '/boot/grub/' folder there is a folder named 'i386pc' ...
[08:00] <imghost> Z3R0, open software centre and search whatever you want to
[08:01] <Z3R0> ok but i was talking about stuff not found in center
[08:01] <Z3R0> ok forget about that how do i auto mount all my drives at startup
[08:01] <imghost> Z3R0, i wil not recommend you to use PPA
[08:02] <imghost> Z3R0, are you a new user?
[08:02] <Z3R0> yes
[08:02] <imghost> !manual | Z3R0 please read it
[08:02] <marsfligth> this is a big problem, I need to setup the boot on uefi bios with windows 8 64 and ubuntu 13.04 32bit...   Does exist a way to 'sleepstream' basically upgrade to 64 bit in offline way?
[08:03] <Z3R0> i know basic about ppa, i can add a ppa but it isnt coming up on software center
[08:04] <aeon-ltd> marsfligth: to upgrade to 64bit would be a lot of packages
[08:04] <imghost> !PPA | Z3R0
[08:05] <marsfligth> Anyone know a way to convert a Ubuntu 32bit to Ubuntu 64bit in offline mode? for offline I mean withou load the os, working on it from another loaded an active system
[08:06] <marsfligth> and if I chroot it?
[08:06] <marsfligth> shoul be possible?
[08:06] <yacc> marsfligth: I'd say, it's not really a normally supported operation even if you start the system, ...
[08:06] <somsip> marsfligth: most things are possible. It would probably be a nightmare though.
[08:07] <yacc> marsfligth: doing it offline, you might be able to install a new 64bit system and slowly migrate the data into it.
[08:08] <imghost> marsfligth, why not a clean install?
[08:09] <yacc> marsfligth: but just installing a Debian (Ubuntu) system via debootstrap is slightly stressy.
[08:09] <marsfligth> I know but I promised to migrate the whole Ubuntu with data and settings to my friend and I really dont like to miss at my promise...
[08:10] <somsip> marsfligth: so you've learned not to promise things without doing some research first
[08:10] <imghost> marsfligth, aaah good luckn but you will not able to fullfill your promise
[08:10] <yacc> marsfligth: well, basically new install with migration of all stuff is what will be needed.
[08:12] <imghost> marsfligth, create a backup of everything settings, files, apps then clean install 64bit, restore the backups
[08:12] <imghost> :P
[08:12] <TJ->  marsfligth You can't easily convert it, but you can create a new 64-bit install and ensure the same packages are installed in it, and then mount the original /home/ into it
[08:12] <marsfligth> at this point seen that I made few ghosts to be secure, I chroot and then dist-upgrade, but anyway I have to study a way to convert it in 64bit
[08:12] <yacc> marsfligth: with some work and keeping both (new 64bit, old 32bit) at hand you should be able to migrate it nearly perfectly, but it's basically manually migrating the stuff.
[08:13] <TJ-> marsfligth: "dpkg --get-selections" and "dpkg --set-selections" are your big friends
[08:14] <yacc> TJ-: don't forget basically going through /etc for the sysconfig.
[08:15] <TJ-> yacc: of course, that should be simple clone as long as the release is the same
[08:15] <imghost> +1 yacc
[08:15] <marsfligth> TJ-, I agree with a fresh install and importing the home directory but all softwares... may be I need to use DPKG to save all of them
[08:15] <marsfligth> so, it is a bad surprise
[08:16] <TJ-> marsfligth: why? I just showed you the 2 command options that you need
[08:18] <yacc> marsfligth: dpkg --get-selections
[08:20] <cfhowlett> !ics>cfhowlett
[08:21] <hipitihop> glitsj16, you about ?
[08:21] <giorgiodinapoli> good morning
[08:22] <giorgiodinapoli> i have a question reagrding my graphics card. when i boot from ubuntu live my xserver log tells me that my radeon is found. and secodn monitor works as well. not if i install it. what can be the reason for this?
[08:22] <giorgiodinapoli> how can i make ut work
[08:23] <giorgiodinapoli> is it the installed kernel?
[08:24] <glitsj16> hipitihop: hi there
[08:24] <yacc> giorgiodinapoli: very good question, interesting question would be what are the differences between "Try Ubuntu", "Install Ubuntu" and "installed system"
[08:24] <hipitihop> hi glitsj16, if you still remember about the ide you had re my headset issue, I'm all ears if you have time
[08:25] <hipitihop> s/ide/idea
[08:25] <yacc> My laptop works with "installed system", "install ubuntu", but had a black screen in "Try ubuntu", ...
[08:25] <glitsj16> hipitihop: been slow here last couple of days .. well, i read on your bug report that you're focussing on diff'ing your 12.04 with the live version yes?
[08:25] <darius93> yacc: it could be due to ubuntu trying to load into memory
[08:26] <yacc> darius93: ?
[08:26] <darius93> im referring to the black screen you had when you did "Try Ubuntu"
[08:26] <yacc> darius93: with 8GB RAM even loading the "install media" (CD-sized) completely into memory should not be an issue.
[08:26] <hipitihop> glitsj16, well that was the idea to try and understand why it works out of the box on 12.04 or 13.10 but I honestly don't know if that is a right way to go
[08:26] <darius93> hmm specs on the computer?
[08:27] <yacc> darius93: yeah, but the same install media manages a fine working X11 session when installing Ubuntu on the same hardware.
[08:27] <hipitihop> glitsj16, the other thought is if there is some reset/reconfigure of alsa/pulse so that whatver livecd does takes effect
[08:27] <MarkMarkDavies> Hi. Quassel IRC is one of the essential IRC clients for Ubuntu. How can one change the default browser called from Rekonq to Firefox? I've been looking for such an option, but I haven't found it.
[08:27] <yacc> darius93: Acer V3-772G (Haswell, HD4400 + NVidia 750M)
[08:28] <EntranceJew> Hey. I tried to install phpldapadmin from the repo and out-of-the-box it is broken / incompatible with the latest php versions. I'm running Ubuntu 13.10.
[08:28] <darius93> MarkMarkDavies: Kubuntu?
[08:28] <MarkMarkDavies> Yes
[08:28] <darius93> Look in your Application Default under System Settings
[08:28] <darius93> Or something like that
[08:29] <glitsj16> hipitihop: i just re-read the report, i had 2 other possibles you could check .. /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf and check if you have diff's in /etc/udev/rules.d between the setups
[08:30] <darius93> yacc: hmm well I dont know. I never used Try Ubuntu since  13.04. I might give it a try when i test out 14.04
[08:30] <glitsj16> hipitihop: both are longshots anyway .. completely re-configuring alsa & pulseaudio might be a better idea yes
[08:30] <yacc> Well, I guess my situation is way better (installer & installed working) than the other way round, ...
[08:31] <yacc> But the question stays, what are the big differences,
[08:31] <glitsj16> hipitihop: have you tried using the guest account to check/confirm if it's a configure issue yet?
[08:31] <yacc> I did not expect Try Ubuntu & Install Ubuntu to have such big differences in the video setup part.
[08:31] <darius93> Try Ubuntu allows you to check out ubuntu by loading it into memory, while the other allows you to install it to disk
[08:31] <glitsj16> hipitihop: or make a new user with a fresh /home would achieve the same
[08:32] <hipitihop> glitsj16, I have already tried the adidio toruble shooting guide which removes some dirs and stops alsa. Any big hammer reconfig you know ?
[08:32] <hipitihop> sigh audio troubleshoot
[08:32] <DoverMo> yacc, was it using mesa?
[08:32] <hipitihop> glits but new user is worth a shot, back in a bit
[08:33] <glitsj16> hipitihop: well i would try with either guest login or as a new user to see if that works and save the big hammer for a moment
[08:34] <hipitihop> glitsj16, ok back in a bit
[08:34] <MarkMarkDavies> well, everything's fine, apart from the fact that it doesn't work. It simply doesn't run Firefox.
[08:36] <EntranceJew> I'm not sure why the latest version in the repo is broken as-is.
[08:39] <murali> All our servers are on virtual, i have added NL SAS virtual volume to my Ubuntu 12.04 OS. This is a web server and my web folder is on mounted volume. I am using FileZilla for FTP. For Sudo equivalent user like me, SFTP is very fast, where as a regular user like project manager it is dead slow.   Status: Retrieving directory listing... Command: cd "/web" Response: New directory is: "/web" Command: ls Status: Listing directory /web Sta
[08:42] <hipitihop> glitsj16, switching to guest login didn't work.. will logout of this and try again
[08:51] <MarkMarkDavies> What's the best way to scan the disk in Ubuntu 12.04 (I mean using the command line)? Should I run fsck? A file has just been placed in my lost+found directory.
[08:52] <Lucid_Lynx> hmm.., which process actually creates those ´lost+found` directories.. ?
[08:55] <esc> hi
[08:55] <esc> anyone know which program is responsible for drawing the desktop background
[08:55] <esc> i need to killall it
[08:56] <hipitihop> glitsj16, guest, another existing user, all the same. logged out and in, restarted, all the same. so suggests it is not something in /home
[08:56] <How_To_Autorn_Tr> Hello guys
[08:56] <How_To_Autorn_Tr> I have on lil query, shall I ask?
[08:56] <bigie> hi guys
[08:56] <DJones> How_To_Autorn_Tr: Yes, just ask in the channel and see if anybody can help
[08:56] <Lucid_Lynx> esc: you may use Openoffice -draw..., and save *.png
[08:57] <bigie> consonle-kit-daemon consume much my memory
[08:57] <bigie> how can I disable it? it's ok if I disable it? I use server version
[08:57] <How_To_Autorn_Tr> ok. I am using Ubuntu 13.10 and I want to make a command in termial autorun at each boot session.
[08:57] <esc> Lucid_Lynx: wtf do you mean?
[08:57] <Lucid_Lynx> esc nvm..
[08:57] <esc> the executable that actually draws the background
[08:58] <esc> not a tool for drawing an image
[08:58] <glitsj16> hipitihop: i assume you've already tried to 'clone' the live configuration onto your 12.04? files like /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, /etc/asound.conf, ~/.asoundrc, ~/.pulse and ~/.config/pulse are the possible targets ..
[08:58] <hipitihop> glitsj16, not yet
[08:59] <glitsj16> hipitihop: some of those files might not be there on the live system, so make sure they're not around on your installed 12.04 setup neither
[09:00] <hipitihop> yup and I also assume ~/. variants are aslo not at play, which the user switching/guest has proved
[09:00] <Muslim> Selamun Aleikum
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[09:00] <DJones> Muslim: Please don't use the channel to advertise
[09:00] <aeon-ltd> Muslim: not in this channel
[09:01] <aeon-ltd> Muslim: as-salamu alaikum
[09:01] <hipitihop> glitsj16, a bit easier if there was just a big hammer reconfigure for als/pulse
[09:02] <glitsj16> hipitihop: well i don't know of a big hammer with one command, but moving / renaming /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, /etc/asound.conf, ~/.asoundrc, ~/.pulse and ~/.config/pulse should have the same effect
[09:04] <hipitihop> glitsj16, ok, when I boot to live, is there a way for me to do that on the default mounted hdd, last time I tried I seemed not have rights to even drill much beyond top-level dirs
[09:04] <Muslim> Selamun Aleikum
[09:04] <Muslim> Support the movement of having Muslim holidays recognized in the school year, throughout the United States of America. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/  (Surely join this important survey)  CLiK: Email this link to your friends and family: http://wh.gov/l8f51 Elhamdullillah
[09:05] <faraway> How can i detect why postfix did not startup after the hoster restarted the server, the logfiles of postfix don't how an error. I was able to launch it manually using 'service postfix star' and the run level are 'Default-Start:    2 3 4 5'
[09:05] <ikonia> faraway: lok in the logs ?
[09:05] <ikonia> faraway: try to manually start the process to get some debug output ?
[09:06] <glitsj16> hipitihop: you would need sudo to get at stuff in /etc or gksudo nautilus/thunar..
[09:06] <ikonia> faraway: check the machines current runlevel
[09:06] <faraway> ikonia: manually starting did work without any problems. It is now up and running.
[09:06] <ikonia> faraway: does the boot log show it trying to start it ?
[09:06] <troulouliou_dev> hi i have a 4tb disk formated on ext4 that works great with a usb3 controler, however when plugged directly to a sata part i have an error message : /dev/sdc: unrecognised disk label
[09:06] <troulouliou_dev> can anybody help
[09:07] <faraway> ikonia: runlevel is N 2
[09:07] <ikonia> troulouliou_dev: see if you can edit it with parted
[09:07] <faraway> ikonia: boot.log does not show postfix in the logs
[09:08] <troulouliou_dev> ikonia, no parted says unrecognised disk label
[09:08] <ikonia> faraway: so it looks like it didn't try to start it.....
[09:08] <ikonia> troulouliou_dev: is it a standard gpt layout ?
[09:09] <troulouliou_dev> ikonia, yes
[09:09] <ikonia> troulouliou_dev: seems odd, there have been problems on usb disks where the controller didn't support larger than 2TB disks, but that should not be a factor on your internal sata connector
[09:09] <troulouliou_dev> ikonia, works on usb adapter; don't work on SATA;  i tested both mobo and external sata card
[09:09] <ikonia> external sata card.....
[09:09] <ikonia> ?
[09:10] <giorgiodinapoli> yacc  yes thats my question howe can it be diffrent
[09:10] <troulouliou_dev> ikonia, pcie i mean
[09:10] <hipitihop> glitsj16, not sure if relevant but I have 12.04 on my laptop, installed and that is happy with teh headphones too
[09:10] <giorgiodinapoli> kernel version or whatever
[09:10]  * hipitihop shakes head
[09:10] <ikonia> troulouliou_dev can you try it on the sata parts on your motherboard ?
[09:10] <troulouliou_dev> ikonia, i tested and i have the same issue
[09:11] <troulouliou_dev> ikonia, just don't work  on sata and work on usb
[09:11] <troulouliou_dev> ikonia, i guess that the firmware somehow don't show first sectors on SATA or something like that
[09:12] <ikonia> troulouliou_dev: out of interest how did you make the partitiotn table /
[09:12] <troulouliou_dev> ikonia, gparted -> new partition gpt ...
[09:12] <glitsj16> hipitihop: so you're seeing the issue on a desktop only?
[09:13] <rustuptwist_> What is the best version to download for novice user onto an hp laptop?
[09:13] <ikonia> troulouliou_dev: ok, there was someone the other day having a problem similar with a "hybrid" partition table that when I researched into was a bit of a mess, but if you've just created it with gparted...
[09:14] <ikonia> troulouliou_dev: was the INITIAL partition table created with gparted
[09:14] <troulouliou_dev> ikonia, pretty sure that yes
[09:14] <aeon-ltd> rustuptwist_: best of what? ubuntu distros?
[09:14] <ikonia> troulouliou_dev: sounds very very odd
[09:14] <troulouliou_dev> ikonia, maybe i just took it out of the box and then formatted to ext4
[09:15] <ikonia> troulouliou_dev: is there any data on it now ?
[09:15] <rustuptwist_> aeon-ltd: Yes
[09:15] <troulouliou_dev> ikonia, but i always recreated the partition table
[09:15] <aeon-ltd> rustuptwist_: if it can run stock, run stock
[09:15] <troulouliou_dev> ikonia, yes it is full i want to copy some of the data to another 2tb disk and then add it to a Raid 1 degraded array that is already mounted
[09:15] <ikonia> troulouliou_dev: a raid array....
[09:16] <KI7MT> rustuptwist_, Install Ubuntu-Desktop .. then you can add other Desktops to it, Gnome3, LXDE, XFCE etc.
[09:16] <ikonia> troulouliou_dev: that will contain the private data
[09:16] <ikonia> (as in private region)
[09:16] <rustuptwist_> KI7MT: Even though it is a Laptop?
[09:17] <rustuptwist_> aeon-ltd: Stock meaning the latest release or..?
[09:17] <aeon-ltd> rustuptwist_: stock as in just ubuntu, no variation. yeah the latest if you want the latest
[09:17] <KI7MT> rustuptwist_, Im on a Toshiba Laptop LP now, Gnome3 .. but if it's an older lower resource laptop, Lubuntu is good choice.
[09:18] <cfhowlett> rustuptwist_, Lubuntu +1
[09:18] <rustuptwist_> aeon-ltd:  I just want stability. Its an older HP he's a 17 year old been using windows, trying to give him a viable alternative
[09:19] <hron84> Hi! Is there a _working_ repo what has php 5.5 for precise?
[09:19] <KI7MT> rustuptwist_, I'd try Lubuntu first them.
[09:19] <aeon-ltd> rustuptwist_: if this laptop has an intel i3/5/7 and at least 2gb of ram or more ubuntu should run just fine, if not then you can install different Desktop Environments like KI7MT said
[09:19] <hipitihop> glitsj16, yes
[09:19] <aeon-ltd> rustuptwist_: the biggest problem you'll have is going to be getting the wifi working if it doesn't already work or if it has uncommon drivers
[09:20] <glitsj16> hipitihop: if the 12.04 installation that works on laptop has the same PPA's and packages installed, perhaps it's time to try making a backup of that and putting it on the machine with the issue .. could be forever to diagnose this, i can't say i understand what's really causing the issue .. and the bug report isn't getting much view neither it seems ..
[09:20] <rustuptwist_> Ok. Anyone know how to save these words/transcripts on colloquy for iOS ?
[09:20] <aeon-ltd> rustuptwist_: ios has a screenshot function...
[09:20] <rustuptwist_> Id like to refer back to what has been said later on today
[09:20] <hipitihop> glitsj16, indeed, I will try thosde files from laptop and compare if naything obvious I will report on bug report. thx
[09:21] <DJones> !logs | rustuptwist_ (If your looking for a log of this IRC channel, this should help),
[09:21] <glitsj16> hipitihop: i have the bug report open so i should pick up anything you add, no problem
[09:21] <rustuptwist_> Thx
[09:24] <MarkMarkDavies> Would somebody be so kind to check the source of the Firefox icon if he/she has the shortcut to this application in KMenu->Applications->Internet?
[09:25] <b0n1> hey there! If I create a bootable usb stick and want to create another that is the exact copy of the first stick, can i also just copy and paste all files from usb stick 1 to 2? Or is there any special thing going on when creating a bootable stick?
[09:25] <ROPA> I just got a solid state drive, it works well, but I'd like to adjust ubuntu so that the ssd isn't accessed so often. Is there any support for ssd use in linux???
[09:26] <aeon-ltd> MarkMarkDavies: it's going to be /usr/bin/firefox
[09:26] <aeon-ltd> ROPA: trim? disable swap?
[09:27] <ROPA> I have 8 GB of ram, so I'd like to use ram instead of the ssd as much as possible.
[09:27] <aeon-ltd> i personally have never used or managed ssds though
[09:27] <aeon-ltd> is this a desktop?
[09:27] <SwedeMike> ROPA: this is done automatically, all free ram you have is used as block cache.
[09:28] <ROPA> aeon-ltd I don't know what trim is..........
[09:28] <aeon-ltd> ROPA: if you still have the hdd you can just have the swap there so you still hibernate, free up ram
[09:28] <aeon-ltd> ROPA: it could be already enabled
[09:28] <MarkMarkDavies> aeon-ltd: oh, thanks, now my menu looks nice :).
[09:29] <aeon-ltd> ROPA: according to wiki it's been in since 2008 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trim_%28computing%29
[09:29] <ROPA> SwedeMike I don't think Im using ram well....whenever I open thunderbord or try to delete messages or do housecleining, the drive access is very high.......
[09:31] <aeon-ltd> ROPA: if your messages are in the ssd then it should be, but it depends on how high, very high is
[09:31] <ROPA> SwedeMike ok, I got some reading to do......but Im not sure the ram is used. It seems sluggish at times and the drive light indicates lots of access.
[09:32] <ROPA> aeon-ltd by 'high', I mean it takes 60 seconds of constant drive activity to delete 300 emails.......
[09:34] <clamiax> hi there
[09:34] <ROPA> I'd actaully like to drop the whole operating system into ram and run it from there....never having to write or read from the ssd!!!!! Not sure if that's possible....
[09:36] <ROPA> I'd gladly buy 16 GB of ram if I could load the entire os into ram on startup......and then write to the ssd when shutting down.
[09:36] <hipitihop> is there a tool to diff package version installed vs not over ssh ?
[09:37] <ROPA> I thank you all for the info, I'll go hit the books now and tr yo understand whats going on with the ssd management. GL to all.
[09:38] <troulouliou_dev> ikonia, still there ?
[09:38] <ikonia> troulouliou_dev: yup
[09:38] <troulouliou_dev> ikonia, guess i found an explanation
[09:38] <ikonia> troulouliou_dev: educate me
[09:39] <troulouliou_dev> ikonia, :), my disk size are not the same when plugged on sata or through the usb3 controller
[09:39] <Wiz_KeeD> Guys, how can I see my optical-drive model in ubuntu?
[09:39] <troulouliou_dev> ikonia,<PHONE_NUMBER> sdf on sata
[09:39] <troulouliou_dev> ikonia,<PHONE_NUMBER> sdf on usb
[09:39] <troulouliou_dev> ikonia, i tested with a 1tb disk and i have the same issue
[09:40] <ikonia> troulouliou_dev: oooh, that's odd
[09:40] <troulouliou_dev> ikonia, firmware issue in the usb adapter i guess
[09:40] <glitsj16> hipitihop: there's the cli "diff" command or a rather nice GUI app called "meld"
[09:41] <KI7MT> Wiz_KeeD, dmesg | egrep -i --color 'cdrom|dvd|cd/rw|writer'
[09:41] <Wiz_KeeD> wow, nice so dmesg was it?
[09:42] <KI7MT> Wiz_KeeD, there's other ways, but dmesg has allot of that sorta stuff.
[09:42] <hipitihop> glitsj16, thanks, I'm talking about pachanges at the moment... looking at this https://github.com/david0rk/pkgdiff
[09:42] <hipitihop> s/pachanges/packages
[09:45] <glitsj16> hipitihop: looks a nice tool for your task yes
[09:48] <freaky[t]> hi all. can anyone help me with duply? i want to setup backups so they run daily. there should always only be 1 full backup set and incremental backups should only be kept for 1 week. if i set MAX_AGE in the config to 1W it never can delete old backup sets cuz newer ones depend on them. if i do a full backup every 2 weeks and do purge, only the last full backup is kept (i also only want 1 full
[09:48] <freaky[t]> backup kept) and i couldnt restore stuff from before that day the full backup set is made cuz the old sets get deleted. so say if i run full backup every 2 weeks and do purge i have before that a backup set of the last 14 days and then suddenly after only from the full backup just made. is there a  possibility i can always have last 7 days and always only 1 full backup set?
[09:48] <freaky[t]> can u read everything?
[09:51] <wh1zz0> Hi guys I am having serious issues which apach2... I didnt have this issue with 12.10. I recently upgraded to 13.10 and installed apache2, mysql and all the other dependencies correctly. After testing localhost is shows "it works" which means I didn't make any mistakes regarding installation BUT my prolem here is with file permissions. When I upload, i.e copy a folder to the /var/www , change it's ownership and give it read write permissions I still cannot view
[09:51] <wh1zz0> the pages correctly from localhost/website.. Please help
[09:51] <ikonia> wh1zz0: explain the error
[09:52] <wh1zz0> ikonia: it doesnt show me any error per say, it only doesn't display the pictures correctly and some things are missing on the page
[09:52] <ikonia> wh1zz0: so what does the apache logs say for those get requests
[09:54] <wh1zz0> ikonia: Do I paste it here or use pastebin?
[09:54] <ikonia> wh1zz0: you don't paste it at all
[09:54] <ikonia> wh1zz0: you look at it and look at the get requests for those files
[09:54] <ikonia> wh1zz0: then work out why they are having a problem
[09:58] <KI7MT> wh1zz0, from 12.10 to 13.10, was apache2.2 to 2.4  they switched allot of things around, have a look at the access control section: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/upgrading.html
[09:59] <wh1zz0> Whew... Still getting the same error
[10:00] <ikonia> wh1zz0: have you looked at the apache log
[10:00] <wh1zz0> The error has something to do with file permissions but I tell you, I have changed from 777 to 755 and back to 777
[10:00] <ikonia> wh1zz0: looking at the get requests for those files as I told you to
[10:00] <wh1zz0> Still error exists
[10:00] <ikonia> wh1zz0: have you looked at the apache log and done what I told you
[10:00] <wh1zz0> Okay
[10:00] <wh1zz0> Yes
[10:00] <wh1zz0> I checked the apache log
[10:00] <ikonia> wh1zz0: ok, what is the get request for one of the missing files
[10:01] <ikonia> or faiing to display files
[10:01] <ikonia> which apache log did you check ?
[10:01] <wh1zz0> ikonia: the one here
[10:01] <wh1zz0> /var/log/apache2/error.log
[10:02] <ikonia> wh1zz0: thats the error log - not the access log
[10:02] <ikonia> wh1zz0: do you see the get requests in the access log, do you see the error for those gets in the error log
[10:02] <wh1zz0> Aha yes I do see it now
[10:02] <ikonia> you mean after you actually looked
[10:02] <ikonia> rather than saying you looked but didn't
[10:03] <wh1zz0> My bad, I thought I was looking at the access logs
[10:09] <MarkDavies> I have a really strange situation. I can access google with links browser, but I can't do it with Firefox. Other websites work well. Well, in fact, I've managed to access google with Firefox but the search engine doesn't work anyway. Some ideas?
[10:09] <ikonia> MarkDavies: clear all your browser cache
[10:09] <MarkDavies> thx, seems that it already works...
[10:10] <wh1zz0> ikonia: From the logs I think it's trying to find some images but it cannot due to the file permissions but I have changed the permissions and even ownership but still get this problem
[10:10] <wh1zz0> If I open the file normally away from localhost, it opens up fine but once in /var/www is doesn't display correctly
[10:11] <ikonia> wh1zz0: show me the get line please
[10:11] <wh1zz0> <IP_ADDRESS> - - [16/Jan/2014:04:58:09 -0500] "GET /norwaysb/index_files/1323717030-header_online-4.jpg HTTP/1.1" 304 180 "http://localhost/norwaysb/" "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/31.0.1650.63 Safari/537.36"
[10:12] <ikonia> wh1zz0: now show me the error log for that get request
[10:13] <wh1zz0> [Thu Jan 16 03:56:10.466644 2014] [core:error] [pid 4204] (13)Permission denied: [client <IP_ADDRESS>:53784] AH00035: access to /norwaysb/index_files/1323717030-header_online-4.jpg denied (filesystem path '/var/www/norwaysb/index_files/1323717030-header_online-4.jpg') because search permissions are missing on a component of the path, referer: http://localhost/norwaysb/
[10:13] <ikonia> wh1zz0: ok, so it's an apache permissions problem - not a file system problem
[10:14] <TJ-> ikonia: wh1zz0 "search permissions" usually means a directory traversal eXecute flag
[10:15] <ikonia> TJ-: he said he's done 777 on the directory, so it must be the apache2 define statement
[10:15] <TJ-> ikonia: One of its parents
[10:15] <ikonia> TJ-: he said he'd done it all
[10:17] <wh1zz0> I even added my username to www-data giving ownership thinking that was part of the problem but still same problem
[10:17] <ikonia> your username ???? what has that got to do with anything
[10:17] <ikonia> it's the apache daemon that needs file system permissions
[10:17] <wh1zz0> I see
[10:18] <wh1zz0> Hmm
[10:19] <wh1zz0> Pls how do I solve this, any ideas?
[10:20] <Ben64> pastebin "ls -ln /var /var/www /var/www/norwaysb /var/www/norwaysb/index_files"
[10:20] <Ben64> oh, and "ls -ln /" for completeness
[10:21] <skramer_> Hi. I look for Clamav 0.98 or even 0.98.1 available for Saucy but could not find anything yet. Is there a PPA for it or do we just need to stik with 0.97?
[10:23] <Guest23645> hi all
[10:24] <wh1zz0> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/Ujdc4EbC && http://pastebin.com/4LYZcQsS
[10:24] <Ben64> you missed quite a lot wh1zz0
[10:24] <ikonia> 33:33
[10:24] <ikonia> ??
[10:25] <wh1zz0> Yeah.. it's supposed to be apache or nobody?
[10:25] <ikonia> your box is screwed
[10:25] <nickwantssurroun> Anyone know how to setup surround sound through an AMD video card?
[10:25] <ikonia> it doesn't know uid is 0
[10:25] <Ben64> www-data is 33
[10:25] <ikonia> it doesn't know that is root
[10:25] <Ben64> -ln prints out numbers instead of names
[10:25] <ikonia> ahhh -n
[10:25] <wh1zz0> Yes I changed it to www-data initially
[10:25] <ikonia> sorry, missed that
[10:26] <Ben64> wh1zz0: but i gave you a giant list of stuff to ls, and you only gave me the last bit
[10:27] <wh1zz0> Ben64: Thought you said two.. <Ben64> pastebin "ls -ln /var /var/www /var/www/norwaysb /var/www/norwaysb/index_files" and this <Ben64> oh, and "ls -ln /" for completeness?
[10:27] <Ben64> yeah, and you did "ls -ln /var/www/norwaysb/index_files" and "ls -ln /"
[10:27] <wh1zz0> Ooops
[10:27] <wh1zz0> My bad, there are three
[10:27] <wh1zz0> Oh 4
[10:27] <wh1zz0> 5
[10:28] <wh1zz0> Done 2 already
[10:28] <wh1zz0> Sec
[10:28] <wh1zz0> ls -ln /var ... http://pastebin.com/MW3mctt4
[10:29] <Ben64> you could have just copied the entire command and pasted it
[10:29] <Sylvain208> Hi I've a graphical bug, video glitch under firefox which could fall to a complete screen desynchronize half shifted. I don't know where I should start a bug report. Am I clear?…
[10:29] <wh1zz0> ls -ln /var/www ... http://pastebin.com/ESk0N0X6
[10:30] <wh1zz0> Ben64: Sorry about my slow nature
[10:30] <researcher123> hi
[10:31] <researcher123> anyone knows about TOR for Ubuntu?
[10:31] <DJones> !tor | researcher123
[10:32] <TJ-> wh1zz0: Use this shell scriplet to check traversals:  P="<put the path to the file here>";  while [ ! -z $P ]; do if [ "3" -ne "$(ls -ld $P | awk -F"x" '{print NF-1}')" ]; then echo "FAIL $(ls -ld $P)"; else echo "OK $P"; fi; P=${P%/*}; done
[10:32] <researcher123> DJones: I have installed TOR but when I run command it open gedit window
[10:32] <wh1zz0> ls -ln /var/www/norwaysb ..... http://pastebin.com/7rd49ufQ
[10:33] <DJones> researcher123: `ok, its not something I've used, but if you explain the problem in detail, hopefully somebody in the channel can help
[10:34] <researcher123> How to run as a program a shell script?
[10:35] <Sylvain208> http://molo.bee.free.fr/screenshot/bee_happy_screenshot_102.png here's a final video « error » half shifted with glitch seems to be triggered only from some web pages under firefox. Where should I post the bug firefox,  fglrx ?
[10:35] <wh1zz0> researcher123: after installing tor from terminal use torify
[10:35] <wh1zz0> also make sure port is 9095
[10:36] <researcher123> wh1zz0: how to do that?
[10:36] <wh1zz0> Ben64: Any ideas please?
[10:36] <wh1zz0> My issue
[10:36] <wh1zz0> researcher123: sudo apt-get install tor
[10:36] <researcher123> wh1zz0: ok.trying
[10:36] <kurt-nos> salut
[10:36] <Ben64> wh1zz0: definitely an apache config issue
[10:38] <wh1zz0> researcher123: after that follow this: https://www.torproject.org/docs/tor-doc-unix.html.en#using
[10:38] <researcher123> wh1zz0: done.What to do now?
[10:39] <wh1zz0> Ben64: Apparently, any suggestions?
[10:39] <Ben64> wh1zz0: find out what you did to the config and fix it?
[10:40] <wh1zz0> Ben64: Didn't do anything other than change ownership and permissions
[10:40] <wh1zz0> from root to www-data
[10:40] <wh1zz0> and from default to 777 and to 755 and back to 777
[10:40] <welly> Hello all. I appear to be having a case of a very slow ubuntu 12.04 server, which is sat a mere 2 metres behind me
[10:40] <welly> Can anyone give me any pointers in where to start problem solving?
[10:41] <TJ-> wh1zz0: Since you changed permissions on the directories and ownership, have you restarted apache? You'll need to for the group changes to be picked up
[10:41] <ikonia> wh1zz0: you updated from apache 2 to 2.2 - there are siificant changes
[10:41] <ikonia> sorry 2.2 to 2.4
[10:43] <wh1zz0> ikonia: No actually it was a clean install but was only trying to state that I recently moved from 12.10 to 13.10
[10:44] <ikonia> ok - then you've moved your content from apache 2.2 to 2.4 - there is a significant difference in the config
[10:44] <TJ-> wh1zz0: have you restarted apache?
[10:44] <TJ-> wh1zz0: I refer you to the Apache Cookbook which says, of that error: "What "search permissions are missing on a component of the path" means is that somewhere in the directory path leading up to the file in question, there's a search (x) bit missing from one of the directories. You see, Apache needs to be able to look at files, the same as any other application does. And so it needs the search bit (x) set so that it can cd into a directory to get a look around."
[10:45] <wh1zz0> While in 12.10 when ever I had apache issues all I did was... sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www ; sudo chmod -R g+rw /var/www and sudo chmod -R 755 /var/www/webdir but here I just don't understand why it's giving this issue
[10:46] <wh1zz0> TJ-: Yeah I restarted many times and did so again a while a go
[10:51] <VigilanteP> How can i configure the sortable table control, not sure of the actual name, so that it allows me to shrink columns smaller than the width of the header text
[10:52] <VigilanteP> I can't think of where to find something like that, and it's ubiquitous throughout the ubuntu UI
[10:53] <cfhowlett> VigilanteP, columns?  table?  is this ubuntu you're discussing?
[10:53] <VigilanteP> yes
[10:53] <VigilanteP> the control that holds tabular data, like what you get when you open nautilus
[10:53] <cfhowlett> VigilanteP, cuz it sounds just like a spreadsheet program ...
[10:53] <VigilanteP> in list mode
[10:53] <wh1zz0> Ben64: ikonia TJ- I changed everything back to default root visited localhost and phpmyadmin, they both displayed correctly but my site cannot be edited so it definitely cannot be left as root
[10:54] <wh1zz0> Whew this is driving me nuts
[10:54] <cfhowlett> VigilanteP, understood.  ask again with that little detail.  I'd help but ... xubuntu
[10:54] <VigilanteP> cfhowlett: In nautilus, for instance, I can resize the filename column as big or small as i like, but all the other columns won't let me shrink them smaller than the width of the header
[10:55] <Ben64> wh1zz0: you really need to work on your apache config
[10:55] <VigilanteP> cfhowlett: I've noticed this behavior in other places where a similar control is used, so I don't think it
[10:55] <VigilanteP> cfhowlett: I don't think it's application specific
[10:56] <roido> hi
[10:56] <cfhowlett> VigilanteP, understood.  sorry that I can't help though; xubuntu and xfce are my desktop environment
[10:56] <cfhowlett> roido, greetings
[10:56] <roido> thanx
[10:57] <roido> was wondering if anyone here could help me with some questions around cloud storage and latency. (not really ubuntu related but I just like this community)
[10:58] <cfhowlett> !cloud
[10:58] <roido> cheers
[11:09] <wh1zz0> I changed to 644.. Now shows forbidden
[11:09] <Mattias> I was running steam and changed resolution in a game, which apparently changed the resolution in xorg too. When I changed back to full native res xorg was still at the lower res. How can I change back without restarting xorg? (Unpacking a huge bz2 file which has been running for the whole day, stupidly enough I started it outside of a terminal multiplexer)
[11:10] <yacc> Any idea how to turn off a display temporary? (Basically without unity trying to redistribute the windows)? With xrandr --off it immediatly merges all windows, ..
[11:10] <Mattias> When I try to change the display res in gnome settings, I just get an error message saying: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.SettingsDaemon was not provided by any .service files
[11:13] <Walex> Mattias: that's either a bug in GNOME or the installation of some GNOME packages was incomplete
[11:13] <Walex> yacc: what do you mean by "off"?
[11:14] <geirha> Mattias: xrandr -s 1024x768   will set that resolution if available
[11:14] <yacc> Well, the idea is simple, I've got a display that is connected to two PCs (desktop/laptop). Now the only way beside physically changing input through the on screen menu, would be switching off temporarily the unwanted display off for a moment.
[11:15] <Mattias> Walex: not in gnome right now, or unity, I'm using i3
[11:15] <Mattias> geirha: thanks, will try :)
[11:15] <Ben64> yacc: try "xset dpms force off"
[11:16] <wh1zz0> Ben64: What apache config are you referring to for me to work on please?
[11:16] <Mattias> geirha: nice, worked :) thanks
[11:16] <yacc> Walex: the issue is, I can kind of automate this, but xrandr triggers automatically the window manager reallocating süace
[11:16] <yacc> Ben64: xset can be directed to only one display?
[11:16] <Ben64> wh1zz0: theres a bunch in /etc/apache2
[11:16] <Ben64> yacc: not sure
[11:18] <yacc> Ben64: well, it's an improvement, no layout issues, but both the laptop panel and the external one shut off, ...
[11:18] <yacc> Ben64: but yes, it's strictly speaking much of an improvement ;)
[11:18] <Ben64> yacc: there probably is an option to choose which display, check out the help and/or man page
[11:19] <delkin> If I install ubuntu-12.04-i686 and then replace the kernel image with a 64bit one, is it expected to work? If not, why not?
[11:21] <delkin> is it a `libc` issue?
[11:21] <yacc> Ben64: don't see any, but a 0.3s flicker is probably okay, now I just need to detect typing without interfering with anything.
[11:22] <Kamuela> Is there going to be a better HD4600 driver out for Ubuntu 13.10 anytime soon?
[11:23] <Diehard> Kamuela: let me check my magic ball
[11:23] <Diehard> Kamuela: stars says hell no
[11:24] <Kamuela> Diehard: too bad, everything else works fine but display is really tweaky
[11:24] <yacc> Diehard: Any reason why a good part of the world needs to live with a buggy Intel driver?
[11:25] <TeraJL> hi, i've created a share through nautilus, but i can't seem to find its settings on /etc/samba/smb.conf, and system-config-samba doesn't see it too... where is it?
[11:26] <TeraJL> i've created a share and i've setted as "Share this folder" and "Allow othres to create and delte files in this folder" but when i try to access i can't login with my account"
[11:29] <Walex> Mattias: but you obviously using a GNOME app to manage the displays.
[11:29] <Walex> Mattias: there are BTW several other RANDR frontends, for example 'arandr'.
[11:31] <yacc> Any way to detect if something is being typed?
[11:32] <Diehard> typed where?
[11:32] <Diehard> and how?
[11:33] <MarkDavies> Why is running tshark as user "root" dangerous?
[11:33] <Walex> TeraJL: using frontends to do that is always a bit of a chance... Config files are not really means to be edited by programs
[11:33] <Walex> MarkDavies: probably because cleverly shaped packets could cause random code execution on being decoded
[11:34] <TeraJL> Walex: so, if i prefer config files i should stick with them?
[11:34] <MarkDavies> ok, but then how can I run it at all, if running it as an ordinary user causes a message that the permissions are not sufficient?
[11:34] <Walex> TeraJL: I personally, being a "character terminal" sort of user, edit config files directly.
[11:35] <TeraJL> i removed the ubuntu share and added through /etc/samba/smb.conf and now it's working --'... thanks
[11:35] <Walex> TeraJL: most GUI frontends to "legacy" config files are somewhat unreliable and cause maintenance problems. If config files were written in YAML or JSON it would be different.
[11:36] <Walex> TeraJL: BTW a way I use to find which config or other files have been modified by a tool is something like 'find /etc -type f -mmin -10' for example
[11:37] <TeraJL> Walex: thanks!
[11:37] <notze> hey jo guys
[11:38] <knightshade> hi
[11:39] <knightshade> MarkDavies: you need to add the user to the wireshark group
[11:45] <giuseppe__> salve
[11:45] <giuseppe__> il gladiatore
[11:46] <MasterOfDisaster> !ubuntu-it | giuseppe__
[11:46]  * cfhowlett waits for the inevitable !list command
[11:46] <Mattias> Walex: I tried to use the gnome app to manage the display, yes. But it didn't work :) xrandr is fine. I prefer command-line tools
[11:46] <wh1zz0> :(
[11:47] <wh1zz0> Pls someone should help I have been on this for days and I can't work without localhost
[11:48] <ikonia> wh1zz0: just saying "please help, please help" won't get you anywhere, I've already told you the config between 2.2 and 2.4 is different, have you checked into that yet ?
[11:50] <b0n1> hey there! If I create a bootable usb stick and want to create another that is the exact copy of the first stick, can i also just copy and paste all files from usb stick 1 to 2? Or is there any special thing going on when creating a bootable stick?
[11:51] <wh1zz0> ikonia: ahaa! I finally got it to work
[11:51] <wh1zz0> Jeez
[11:51] <wh1zz0> Whew
[11:52] <wh1zz0> It was trying to read files that were not even there in the first place, they were actually in another location, I moved it when I was testing and forgot to move it back
[11:52] <wh1zz0> I tried to build another new site and it worked so that got me curious.... and led me to the solution. Thanks everyone for your help
[11:54] <michagogo|cloud> b0n1: Just dd one to the other
[11:55] <timebroken> how I can go back to the beginning of a script without closing  and re openning again
[11:58] <ddoom_> I have a 4TB external hdd to use as a backup, can anyone recommend a filesystem to use
[11:58] <geirha> timebroken: in what context?  inside an editor?
[11:59] <Sylvain208> ddoom_: if it's for linux only ext4 could be a good choice
[11:59] <timebroken> to return to the beginning
[12:00] <geirha> timebroken: I'm not a mind reader, sorry.
[12:01] <DJones> !details | geirha You need to explain the problem more, you've not said whether you're running a script and want to start it again, whether you're editing a script and if so which editor you're using to edit the script
[12:02] <DJones> geirha: Sorry, that was meant for timebroken
[12:03] <timebroken> yes..!! DJones
[12:04] <timebroken>  geirha you know goto in C++ I need the equivalant of that function in bash
[12:04] <timebroken>  you know goto in C++ I need the equivalant of that function in bash
[12:06] <somsip> timebroken: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9639103/is-there-a-goto-statement-in-bash
[12:07] <somsip> timebroken: Last one - http://bobcopeland.com/blog/2012/10/goto-in-bash/
[12:10] <cooldharma06> hi all
[12:10] <cooldharma06> i am facing small error...http://pastebin.com/vcNmnDnT
[12:10] <cooldharma06> how to solve this one .. any suggestions.???
[12:12] <ikonia> cooldharma06: looks like it's just not configured correctly and maybe missing a kernel module
[12:14] <timebroken> somsip: thks man
[12:14] <cooldharma06> ikonia i checked everything upto my knowledge..
[12:25] <jessejammes> saludos a todo el canal
[12:35] <kr4zycoder> #evince
[12:43] <Mattias> I have a tar bz2 file, I extracted it partially, and now I want to continue with the rest. So what I basically want is to have it skip files already extracted which it finds in file, maybe with a prompt for overwrite or just replace all files with a size diffrence. Is this possible?
[12:44] <Mattias> ah, maybe it's the -k switch
[12:49] <Mattias> I have no idea if it is actually skipping existing files now. It still prints out every file it goes over in the verbose output
[12:49] <Julie_> I have some machines that have no gui - need to set the ethernet ip address rather than use dhcp - what file is this in?
[12:50] <m_> m
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> Julie_: /etc/network/interfaces
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> Julie_: or install wicd and use wicd-curses
[12:52] <Julie_> ty
[12:54] <Julie_> ActionParsnip: what do I add to that file - right now it has auto lo and iface lo inet loopback
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> Julie_: there are sample files online, will tell you more than I can in here
[13:25] <k-rad> can anyone compile a perfect custom kernel ?
[13:25] <||Daisyab||> Quit
[13:26] <ikonia> k-rad: what's up
[13:26] <cfhowlett> !perfect|k-rad,
[13:27] <k-rad> ikona i have a pentium processor that is dual core and like an i3 and was wondering if someone could offer their services for a great my cpu optimized kernel for my 12.03 lts
[13:27] <k-rad> well, ideally. :)
[13:27]  * cfhowlett thinks there really *needs* to be a "perfect" factoid
[13:27] <cfhowlett> k-rad, dual core pentium is FAR from an i3 ... just sayin ...
[13:27] <k-rad> this one is close actually better than an i3
[13:28] <IdleOne> k-rad: custom kernels are not supported in this channel, and there is no such thing as a perfect anything, if there was a perfect kernel we would be using it already.
[13:33] <foo357> Hello, how can I use multiple command in a find exec? Like for example: find . -type f -iname "*.jpg" -exec echo $(basename {}) \;
[13:36] <gagarin1> hello, i have a problem, i need to install lib32-libpulse, but its not in the reppos :(
[13:36] <gagarin1> wat do
[13:38] <thoonai> heyho, I want to realize network boot over vpn
[13:38] <thoonai> the vpn program relies on libssl and ostly the tuntap module
[13:39] <thoonai> does this sounds even possible?
[13:40] <thurstylark> How would I go about troubleshooting DNS issues? I recently deinstalled dnsmasq because I don't want to deal with it right now, but I must have missed a configuration when I was putting it back. Where should I look?
[13:44] <ikonia> k-rad: what's up
[13:44] <ikonia> oops
[13:44] <ikonia> sorry
[13:52] <b0n1> michagogo|cloud did I get you right? You say i can just c&p the files from one usb stick to the other and it is still bootable?
[13:53] <b0n1> for what do I need a program that writes bootable usb sticks?
[13:55] <cfhowlett> b0n1, unetbootin or startup-diskcreator   copy and paste won't work
[14:04] <Daghdha> Hello. Somewhere in the last year my mysql has broken. I just noticed, i can be broken for months since i haven't used it. Any 'silver bullets' regarding this? Like some change in thelast year that broke mysql maybe
[14:05] <Daghdha> when i try 'service mysql start' it says 'start: Job failed to start'
[14:09] <biggdadd73> I'm having network issues can someone assist?
[14:10] <supauli> Sure, tell your problem
[14:12] <biggdadd73> ok I'm using Ubuntu Server 12.04.3 and whenever I reboot I lose my internet connection.
[14:12] <anonymous> hi
[14:12] <biggdadd73> resolv.conf keeps getting reset...
[14:12] <thoonai> how do I have to change the settings of init, that it mounts / and the rest over vpn?
[14:13] <biggdadd73> it did not do this in 12.04.2 (I still have that server going for comparison)
[14:14] <biggdadd73> any ideas
[14:14] <supauli> biggdadd73: is it only nameserver or full connecttion -- can you ping <IP_ADDRESS> for example
[14:15] <supauli> (when the network is down after reboot)
[14:15] <supauli> and how do you fix that then? I mean, if you loose the net in every reboot you must do something to get it back?
[14:16] <muttley_> hello all . first time on IRC i want to test if all is ok.
[14:16] <supauli> muttley_: its working fine
[14:16] <ubuntuatschool> Hi I have a umask problem after switchin to root opening roots .bashrc changing umask at the bottom. reverting. umask stays permanent now. of course i might have done something else as well. as user in .bashrc file there is no umask setting now. not in /etc/profile either. and not in homefolder profile file as well. not in roots .bashrc file either
[14:16] <supauli> thoonai: i would do that over ssh - connection
[14:16] <Giirt> I'm planning to buy a gaming pc with ubuntu installed. Is there a list of great supported graphics cards?
[14:17] <biggdadd73> well when I reboot I have to go back in to resolv.conf and manually add a nameserver...then it works...at least until I reboot
[14:17] <Giirt> I mean, not like, "it works". I want drivers that actually makes the card work as intended to
[14:17] <muttley_> guys can you read my message? first time on irc
[14:17] <Giirt> muttley_: yes i can
[14:17] <Lunar_La1p> w/in 9
[14:18] <muttley_> Thank you
[14:18] <muttley_> @ Giirt Thank you
[14:18] <supauli> biggdadd73: so only thing broken is resolv.conf ? Thats generated automatically so its no suprise changes made there are lost. You need to fix your configuration.
[14:19] <biggdadd73> yeah I know but wher do I make the configuration change
[14:19] <supauli> if you get the connection from dhcp, then i suggest fixing that
[14:19] <biggdadd73> I'm reading as I'm typing on google
[14:19] <muttley_> j
[14:19] <biggdadd73> it's a static ip
[14:21] <supauli> biggdadd73: see http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man8/resolvconf.8.html for 'dns-nameservers' option
[14:25] <n008> looking the files in /usr/share they all <files>.ui in xml format
[14:25] <n008> they seem to be gtk file
[14:25] <n008> is that the standard for ubuntu desktop apps ?
[14:26] <n008> how do I develop ubuntu desktop apps ?
[14:26] <CorySimmons> Is there a way to get a list of deps -that were installed- during apt-get?
[14:26] <kostkon> n008, http://developer.ubuntu.com/
[14:26] <CorySimmons> Also, does apt-get leave me with a binary?
[14:26] <ikonia> CorySimmons: apt-get will install a deb a package, which contains what is in the package
[14:26] <somsip> CorySimmons: /var/log/apt/history.log
[14:26] <CorySimmons> For instance, I'm trying to get an Inkscape 0.47 binary to use with Heroku (Lucid boxes)
[14:27] <n008> kostkon: thanks
[14:27] <CorySimmons> When you do apt-get inkscape, it makes it available in your path, so I'm assuming it makes a binary?
[14:27] <ikonia> CorySimmons: it won't "make" a binary, it will install a binary from the deb archive it installed
[14:28] <CorySimmons> Ok, so, is it possible to get Inkscape to build statically with apt-get, and just include the deps in this static binary?
[14:28] <n008> kostkon: seen QML, is this supported by other linux distro ?
[14:28] <CorySimmons> ikonia: I see
[14:28] <ikonia> CorySimmons: apt-get does NOT build
[14:29] <kostkon> n008, qml is a part of qt5 so yes as long as it's not that old
[14:29] <CorySimmons> ikonia: Hmm
[14:29] <supauli> n008: its actually also usable on some mobile devices, for example jolla ;)
[14:29] <kostkon> n008, i meant qt*
[14:30] <CorySimmons> ikonia: So is there anyway to grab all the deps I need to statically build Inkscape on a clean Lucid 64 install (Heroku boxes)?
[14:30] <kostkon> n008, it's just that the ubuntu sdk is qt5 based
[14:30] <ikonia> lucid is dead, so I'd not waste time with it
[14:31] <sm00raven> anyone know how to get 9menu to show up on top of other windows?
[14:31] <supauli> CorySimmons: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28372/how-do-i-get-the-source-code-of-packages-installed-through-apt-get
[14:31] <ikonia> worst link ever
[14:31] <n008> kostkon: supauli cool thanks
[14:32] <n008> supauli: does jolla run ubuntu ?
[14:32] <Myrtti> n008: jolla is Sailfish, quite different thing.
[14:33] <sm00raven> I'm using it with ccsm commands, to run a script I wrote for 9menu, it works fine and all, but if I have any other full screen windows open I have to alt+tab to get to the 9menu popup
[14:33] <n008> Myrtti: I see
[14:33] <n008> I see, its Linux based as well
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> n008: ask in #jolla
[14:36] <supauli> its#jollamobile
[14:36] <CorySimmons> ikonia:
[14:36] <CorySimmons> Heroku Cedar uses Lucid, so that's why I'm using it...
[14:36] <CorySimmons> Not because I particularly enjoy really old OS's :)
[14:39] <olsonea> Hi all.
[14:39] <ebo> o
[14:40] <olsonea> how do i remove these packages? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6762354/
[14:40] <scarrz> good morning... can anyone point me to a proper FAQ to PROPERLY set my boot up splash screen... all the google I tried doesn't seem to help. mt monitor complains of not being able to display that mode... (104X768X24)
[14:40] <Budd> I'm trying to get NetworkManager to connect to a mesh network using IPv6 (only) using RADV and RDNSS. I have rdnssd running (and working).
[14:40] <olsonea> sudo aptitude purge doesn't remove them
[14:40] <YamakasY> someone known with partman schemes ?
[14:41] <Budd> So it sets up the connection just fine, but also runs dhclient unnecessarily, which eventually fails, then tears down the (working) connection.
[14:43] <helmut_> hi
[14:43] <olsonea> so how do i remove pacakges listed in dpkg as 'un'?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> olsonea: what is the output of :  cat /etc/issue
[14:43] <olsonea> sorry, Ubuntu 13.10
[14:43] <noussommesgenial> hello everybody
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> olsonea: what is the output of:  dpkg -l | grep nvidia     thanks
[14:44] <noussommesgenial> ubuntu is the best system i ever worked with
[14:44] <noussommesgenial> happy to find so many users here
[14:44] <olsonea> ActionParsnip: null.
[14:45] <noussommesgenial> does someone know a good movie editor on linux ?
[14:45] <olsonea> ActionParsnip: though dpkg -l 'nvidia*' returns this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6762354/
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> olsonea: then it's not an issue, its probably aptitude showing historical guff but dpkg didnt even show 'rc' so they are not in your OS
[14:46] <olsonea> ok, thanks. i was trying to purge absolutely everything nvidia related
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> olsonea: oh, I though you said null.....does grep output nothing?
[14:46] <olsonea> yes, no output
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> olsonea: then its not present
[14:46] <olsonea> cool
[14:46] <noussommesgenial> i'm actually working on a movie edition from the movie Mary Poppins, i need to make it more professionnal
[14:47] <noussommesgenial> the actual attempt was that one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zma8tSTsGb8
[14:47] <olsonea> i had installed a PPA for the nvidia proprietary drivers, and it was working fine for months, but an update hosed everything, and i was kicked into 'low graphics mode' where x wouldn't run
[14:47] <olsonea> so i purged nvidia*, which at least allowed me to startx
[14:48] <olsonea> but now i'm picking up the pieces
[14:48] <olsonea> probably a good idea to remove the PPA once you get a stable environment next time?
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> olsonea: indeed
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> olsonea: PPAs do carry a certain risk
[14:49] <olsonea> will apt-get be cranky that it can't find the package source?
[14:49] <ujjain1> add-apt-repository ppa:semiosis/ubuntu-glusterfs-3.4 < what is wrong with this format?
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> olsonea: if you run:  sudo apt-get update    first, the PPA packages will be forgotten
[14:49] <vfw> olsonea: I just download from nvidia.com
[14:49] <vfw> olsonea: and install manually
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> nvidia-curren    super easy