[00:02] <ochosi> brainwash: just pushed a configurable screensaver-timeout... (default is 60secs now)
[00:07] <Noskcaj> So what am i taking from Unit193's version? Just his new patch?
[00:09] <ochosi> Noskcaj: i did a complete new patch, but the diff is just one line
[00:09] <Noskcaj> ochosi, that's the accountsservice one?
[00:09] <ochosi> yes
[00:09] <Unit193> I said something to brain as he's interested in the transition thing. :P
[00:10] <ochosi> it now checks only for the first workspace's wallpaper, not the most recently changed wallpaper
[00:10] <ochosi> somehow it makes more sense like this, because workspace 1 is always shown on login
[00:10] <ochosi> (unless you add some startup magic...)
[00:11] <brainwash> so true
[00:12] <Noskcaj> So I just copy all the patches from unit's version, refresh them, and done
[00:13] <Unit193> ...Unless you're working on a different version, why would you refresh?
[00:13] <Noskcaj> quilt likes to add a header that is rather useful
[00:14] <Noskcaj> speaking of which, those patches should probably get DEP8  headers
[00:14] <Unit193> I had to re-work the nautilus one too, things changed.  These have the DEP headers.
[00:14] <Noskcaj> yep. your right
[00:15] <Unit193> Okay...  I was starting to wonder if you were looking at some other source.
[00:15] <Unit193> And what exactly is quilt mangleing?
[00:15] <Noskcaj> probably some form of patch death
[00:18] <Unit193> Check the changelog, I ignored it.  Also, I fixed a lintian warning about declaring what section more than once, not sure if it was xfwm or xfdesktop so you may want to re-add for a closer sync. :P
[00:19] <Noskcaj> I only copied the patches across. I'd fix that lintian warning in debian, but it's tedious and doesn't damage anything.
[00:32] <brainwash> ochosi: another useful addition, and with this amount of changes we surely need another release soon :)
[00:33] <ochosi> yup, maybe
[00:33] <ochosi> we'll see, i guess we need to check what's on the roadmap for 1.8
[00:35] <brainwash> I see, "Improve keyboard-navigation"
[00:36] <ochosi> we might wanna add more kb-shortcuts, like Alt+F4 at some point
[00:37] <brainwash> useful, especially for people who dislike using the mouse
[00:37] <brainwash> like me
[00:38]  * Unit193 wonders if he should show xombrero to brainwash, decides not to and runs.
[00:39] <brainwash> looks interesting
[01:23] <Noskcaj> bluesabre-laptop, When do you think you'll get catfish's next release out?
[01:24] <Noskcaj> The same with mugshot
[02:43] <brainwash> ochosi: I might have found an explanation for our current abiword ruler problem
[02:48] <brainwash> ochosi: the rulers are GtkDrawingAreas, setting the gobject property "double-buffered" to FALSE prevents the glitch
[03:15] <bluesabre-laptop> Noskcaj: hopefully sometime this week for both, definitely at least one of them
[03:15] <Noskcaj> awesome
[04:18] <micahg> Noskcaj: you can't merge branches for stable releases unless it's into -proposed
[04:19] <Noskcaj> micahg, ok. I wasn't really sure of the process. Hopefully whoever sponsors it will put the changes where they are meant to go
[04:19] <micahg> Noskcaj: that diff is ridiculous in the MR, can you provide a debdiff pleasE?
[04:20] <Noskcaj> I can't right now, but it was adding the two patches from debian and forcing xdt-autogen to run, just like in trusty
[04:21] <micahg> there's a lot of noise from the .pc dir
[04:22] <micahg> this is one reason I don't like bzr merges
[04:23] <Noskcaj> That bit is very understandable
[04:24] <Noskcaj> But could you please sponsor the xfce stuff anyway?
[04:29] <micahg> Noskcaj: if http://paste.ubuntu.com/6795392/ applies, I'll sponsor it (well, without the noise for the 06_fix-suspend-auth-check.patch patch
[04:30] <Noskcaj> :)
[04:31] <micahg> Noskcaj: actually, the 06_add-shutdown-reboot-functionality-for-systemd.patch needs dep-3 headers
[04:32] <micahg> Noskcaj: if you want to paste those somewhere or PM, I can add them and upload
[04:33] <micahg> well, test building now
[04:33] <Noskcaj> I don't know the history of the patch, other than it was from debian. I forget who did the rest of the work for this one
[04:33] <micahg> svn blame?
[04:34] <Unit193> Suse, wasn't it?
[04:34] <Unit193> Or, bts.
[04:36] <Noskcaj> Yeah, SUSE originally
[04:37] <Noskcaj> so Origin: OpenSUSUE
[04:37] <Noskcaj> Debian-Bug: #727605
[04:37] <micahg> Bug-Debian I think is the proper notation
[04:37] <Noskcaj> Yes, you're right
[04:39] <Noskcaj> then Bug-Ubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1222021
[04:39] <Noskcaj> I'm not sure what to put for description
[04:39] <Noskcaj> And then that would be it
[04:42] <Unit193> micahg: Indeed, not interested in doing merges because of bzr.
[04:42] <Noskcaj> Unit193, there are other ways
[04:47] <Noskcaj> micahg, When you've merged this, i'll propose a merge to trusty for bug 1067749 as an excuse to add the header there
[04:59] <micahg> still waiting, going to sleep soon
[05:00] <Noskcaj> for?
[05:00] <micahg> dep3-headers
[05:00] <Noskcaj> I though you where putting them in with what i'd already said, sorry.
[05:01] <micahg> can you PM me the whole block
[05:01] <micahg> please
[05:02] <Noskcaj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6795501/
[05:04] <micahg> Noskcaj: what about the note here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=727605#10
[05:04] <micahg> or did we lose upower in saucy
[05:04] <micahg> I'm a little behind the times
[05:05] <Noskcaj> micahg, I'm not 100% sure, but i think it's ok since we've tested this in trusty and saucy for quite a while with no issues
[05:05] <Noskcaj> plus corsac added it to debian svn
[05:05] <micahg> ok
[05:08] <Unit193> upower is very much there.
[05:09] <micahg> ok, maybe add test notes to make sure that use case gets tested
[05:10] <Noskcaj> will do.
[05:18] <Noskcaj> thanks micahg.
[05:18] <Noskcaj> Is there any chance your lack of time will be fixed soonish?
[05:19] <micahg> probably going to be a bit more, I'll try to find some hours for sponsoring
[05:20] <Noskcaj> :)
[05:20] <Noskcaj> I apologizes in advance for my use of bzr for everything
[05:20] <micahg> haha, not your fault, it's encouraged
[05:31] <micahg> night all
[05:32] <micahg> Noskcaj: thanks for the fix
[05:37] <Noskcaj> g'night micahg
[05:56] <Unit193> Mica: Thanks.
[07:41] <Noskcaj> hey elfy
[07:41] <elfy> morning
[07:43] <Noskcaj> Any chance of a call for testing soonish for power manager (saucy) and weather-plugin (precise)?
[07:44] <Noskcaj> micah has sponsored power manager, and infinity has said he can sync weather-plugin if testers are ready
[07:47] <elfy> do people still use saucy?
[07:47] <elfy> :p
[07:47] <elfy> I'll fit it in - but if it's SRU stuff better to be done via LP bugs as is normal
[08:31] <Noskcaj> elfy, it  has been
[08:35] <ochosi> brainwash: have you reported that upstream already?
[09:36] <slickymaster> morning all
[10:54] <knome> ali1234, ?
[10:56] <ali1234> hi
[10:56] <knome> ali1234, do you have the script to download all original sized attachments from a ubuntu wiki page handy?
[10:56] <ali1234> somewhere
[10:57] <knome> ok, if you could dig it up, i would have a use for it...
[10:57] <knome> (the same as the last time, picking up the wallpaper submissions)
[10:58] <ali1234> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6796659/
[10:59] <brainwash> ochosi: no, 1) no abiword bugtracker account and more importantly 2) I just observed it by experimenting with gtkparasite, so I would need to check the source and rebuild abiword
[11:01] <brainwash> is the new xubuntu 14.04 default wallpaper already available? or some work in progress?
[11:01] <knome> ali1234, ta
[11:04] <slickymaster> bluesabre-laptop: you around?
[11:06] <slickymaster> knome: ping
[11:06] <knome> slickymaster, dong
[11:09] <slickymaster> knome: do you have mugshot on your system?
[11:09] <knome> nope
[11:10] <slickymaster> well, thing is that I'm not getting my digital camera to appear listed in mugshot upon clicking the image button
[11:10] <slickymaster> any ideas?
[11:12] <slickymaster> bluesabre-laptop: ^^^
[11:28] <bluesabre-laptop> slickymaster: install gstreamer1.0-tools
[11:28] <bluesabre-laptop> I need to add that to recommends in my ppa
[11:39] <slickymaster> bluesabre-laptop: installing gstreamer1.o-tools didn't solve it
[11:41] <bluesabre-laptop> maybe gstreamer1.0-x or gstreamer1.0-libav
[11:41] <slickymaster> ok, going to try it
[11:42] <slickymaster> bluesabre-laptop: still no dice
[11:49] <slickymaster> bluesabre-laptop: any other options that cross your mind?
[11:51] <knome> bbl
[12:31] <bluesabre-laptop> slickymaster: here's what I have installed, http://dpaste.com/1564260/
[12:32] <slickymaster> bluesabre-laptop: ok, I'll check if I have all those installed om my box
[13:08] <bluesabre-laptop> Finally got this typed up: http://smdavis.us/2014/01/22/menulibre-2-0-released-trusty-ppa-available/
[13:09] <bluesabre-laptop> gotta go to work, bbl
[14:34] <hjbvjhbvjdsfsdfd> alpha 2 tomorrow?
[14:52] <epll45831> what are the requirements for 14.04?
[14:53] <slickymaster> epll45831: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/StrategyDocument#The_Target
[14:54] <epll45831> thanks
[17:12] <slickymaster> bbl ->
[17:20] <elfy> 8 people reporting for alpha2
[17:20] <elfy> no wonder why I get so fed up with wasting my time
[17:25] <elfy> knome: https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/1628change/+merge/202716
[17:28] <brainwash> elfy: how are you wasting your time?
[17:28] <elfy> 8 people?
[17:29] <elfy> we'd probably get that many if I didn't bother
[17:29] <brainwash> I do lots of testing, but no iso testing
[17:29] <elfy> I guess others do as well
[17:30] <brainwash> right, and especially now we would need more test results
[17:30] <brainwash> LTS
[17:31] <elfy> I know
[17:37] <brainwash> elfy: you could announce the alpha 2 release in Ubuntu +1 (forum) and call for additional testers :)
[17:39] <brainwash> too bad that the alpha release still does not contain some of the exiting new features to lure people to do some testing
[17:53] <elfy> brainwash: that's ok up to the point gnome/lubuntu/kubuntu do the same :p
[17:54] <elfy> yea - hopefully we'll have them all there for beta1, but who knows
[17:54] <elfy> any later than that and someone else can worry about testing
[18:10] <elfy> brainwash: that said we get full marks :p "Testing still needs to start for Edubuntu and Ubuntu Kylin.  Full marks to Xubuntu and Ubuntu Gnome for getting theirs done."
[19:02] <elfy> Noskcaj: hey - I ended up wandering off to work this morning and not talking to you further re for power manager (saucy) and weather-plugin (precise)
[19:02] <Noskcaj> that's fine, i wasn't there either
[19:03] <elfy> if they've been checked as part of the sru process - is there any need to do more?
[19:05] <Noskcaj> for bug 1244629, we need people to check, since it will just be a sync. and for saucy people need to check upower still works fine
[19:09] <elfy> Noskcaj: make a call after tomorrow - there's nothing on our schedule between now and feb 6th
[19:10] <Noskcaj> ok.If corsac is around soonish to sponsor 3.3.1, maybe a gthumb call too
[19:10] <Noskcaj> ochosi, Do we want light locker 1.1 for trusty or stay at 1.0?
[19:10] <elfy> ok - but come beginning of february there's going to be calls constantly for packages and images
[19:11] <elfy> !team
[19:11] <elfy> ^^ that - so don't leave it too late
[19:13] <lderan> :P
[19:14] <lderan> shall be doing some testing at about 9pm, possibly sooner
[19:14] <elfy> :)
[19:28] <knome> elfy, waah?
[19:30] <elfy> knome: pedal?
[19:34] <knome> pinging people
[19:34] <elfy> yea
[19:34] <elfy> is there another way to tell people that they've not got long left
[19:34] <knome> for what?
[19:34] <knome> :P
[19:35] <elfy> come beginning of february there's going to be calls constantly for packages and images
[19:35] <knome> yep.
[19:35] <elfy> but personally I'm coming around to the point of view that I could just send mails out go blah blah blah and it'd not make any difference at all to the result
[19:36] <knome> i'm getting into the QA loop more and more
[19:36] <knome> even mor hurdles are now overcome
[19:36] <elfy> :)
[19:36] <elfy> I'm not pointing fingers knome
[19:37] <knome> i am, me fingers point at me :P
[19:38] <elfy> :)
[19:38] <pleia2> I'm not getting on an airplane for 30 whole days, so I should have some time for testing
[19:38] <pleia2> (and have pre-alpha images prepped for testing tonight, woo)
[19:38] <knome> oh yay
[19:39] <pleia2> I appreciate the reminder emails :)
[19:39] <elfy> serious point - do you see any point in getting it rebuilt re "If any gtk using flavours want it in alpha 2 please let me or another archive admin" which refers to
[19:39] <elfy>                 https://launchpad.net/bugs/1260396
[19:39] <elfy> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1260473
[19:40] <elfy> personally I don't
[19:40] <pleia2> no
[19:40] <knome> elfy, stgraber said it's stuck on a queue, so not worth it...
[19:40] <pleia2> but hooray for it being fixed
[19:40] <pleia2> just a note in release notes about it landing too late
[19:41] <elfy> knome: ok
[19:41] <knome> note about something we don't have?
[19:41]  * knome doesn't understand
[19:41] <knome> just don't mention it, if it hasn't landed and we didn't promise it to!
[19:41] <pleia2> it makes the installer window look very wonky, people will notice :)
[19:42] <elfy> pleia2: I also want to list those who tested like we did last time
[19:42] <pleia2> elfy: yes!
[19:43]  * elfy wanders off to mark alpha2 as released to catch out people who keep saying they'll test manana :p
[19:44] <pleia2> too late to test?
[19:44] <knome> pleia2, they want to release it some time after noon UTC today
[19:44] <knome> err,
[19:44] <knome> tomorrow
[19:44] <elfy> today
[19:45] <elfy> ?
[19:45] <elfy> yea - tomorrow
[19:45] <elfy> pleia2: no - it's not too late - I'll mark it tomorrow morning sometime around 0700UTC
[19:45] <pleia2> okie
[19:45] <elfy> unless knome has a problem with that :p
[19:45] <knome> not at all
[19:46] <elfy> k
[19:46] <pleia2> having more time to test would be good, I was all ready to test on monday!
[19:46] <pleia2> was a bank holiday here, would have been great
[19:46] <knome> elfy knows better what the situation re: being ready to release is anyway
[19:46] <elfy> pleia2: all our's are done, testcase wise - but more eyes never hurts
[19:46]  * pleia2 nods
[19:47] <knome> unless they pop in in weird places, like ears :/
[19:47] <elfy> "Full marks to Xubuntu and Ubuntu Gnome for getting theirs done."
[19:47] <elfy> is what we got :)
[19:47] <pleia2> oh, eyes on ears, yes, that would be odd
[19:47] <knome> marks, like the old finnish or danish marks? :P
[19:47] <elfy> yep
[19:48] <elfy> full marks in any currency you like :D
[19:48] <knome> lol
[19:48] <knome> you can only have full marks in mark-currencies!
[19:48]  * knome stops being silly and goes help the wife in kitchenwork
[19:48] <elfy> I got more than full marks in a maths exam - still no idea how they worked that out
[19:50] <elfy> knome: when you get back ping me re that merge and bug
[19:59] <lderan> elfy, I got 100% in a negative marked exam once. Was tempted to ask if the machine they used to do the multiple choice test was broken :P
[20:00] <elfy> :)
[20:04] <knome> elfy, what merge and bug?
[20:05] <elfy> https://code.launchpad.net/~elfy/ubuntu-manual-tests/1628change/+merge/202716
[20:06] <elfy> or we should make that testcase optional http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/testcases/1628/info
[20:06] <elfy> or I'll be failing it close to each and everytime
[20:06]  * knome shrugs
[20:06] <knome> what do you think?
[20:07] <elfy> well ... all of the things we test then get tested elsewhere anyway for one
[20:07] <elfy> but if we're going to test it then it shouldn't be failable just because of wording
[20:08] <elfy> though each seperate thing says 'if ... '
[20:08] <knome> yeaah...
[20:09] <elfy> mmm
[20:09] <knome> dunno, i can merge if you want
[20:10] <elfy> I'd rather do that I think
[20:10] <elfy> I know it's not much - but then I'm checking all of them as I go through them for things like that
[20:14] <knome> elfy, done
[20:15] <elfy> thanks knome :)
[20:15] <knome> np
[20:28] <GridCube> ok, some bugs, at least from my understanding, http://goput.it/122r.png <<< there is no default list of backgrounds available, it doesnt show the default background neither
[20:29] <GridCube> on 1024x768 the sudoku screen doesnt show complete, its like its default is larger than 1024px wich makes no sense http://goput.it/v/sou4.png
[20:29] <GridCube> and this might not be a bug, but why does pavucontrol has white parts? http://goput.it/bims.png
[20:30] <elfy> white here
[20:31] <elfy> GridCube: first one - you've got folder set to none - what happens if it's not
[20:31] <knome> last one looks like a theming bug
[20:31] <GridCube> elfy, that lets me choose my default home folder or the images folder, either of which have no images on them
[20:32] <elfy> perhaps it's a bug then :)
[20:33] <GridCube> http://goput.it/70l4.png
[20:34] <elfy> knome: and my final 'I'm not sure why we even' for today - live session "Use and execute the default applications found for the desktop enviroment being run"
[20:34] <elfy> why?
[20:34] <knome> GridCube, can you file a bug for that, against xfdesktop
[20:34] <elfy> and why not "Use and execute the default applications found for the desktop enviroment being run" then report the results on the package tracker"
[20:35] <GridCube> knome, kk
[20:35] <knome> elfy, the point was to gather random/exploratory testing bugs rather than the same old package tests
[20:35] <knome> elfy, so people can test random things, and if they appear in the ISO test... well, the bugs are at least filed
[20:35] <knome> elfy, we should probably expect people find those with the package tests as well, but those can never cover 100%
[20:36] <elfy> ok I can go with that - but that's a lot of default packages :p
[20:36] <knome> well... again, the point is to not restrict people to do certain kid of testing
[20:37] <knome> *kind
[20:37] <elfy> ok - I'll go back into my box now :)
[20:37] <knome> could be reworded to "do what you usually do", but otoh, that would again restrict people from thinking out of the box
[20:37] <knome> if you get what i'm saying
[20:38] <elfy> yea - better not to do that
[20:38] <GridCube> knome, http://goput.it/hxv8.png
[20:38] <knome> so yep, i think the current wording is fine until somebody comes up with a better wording :P
[20:38] <GridCube> will do it manually from this other vm
[20:38] <elfy> on the whole I'm quite relaxed about that now we've got packages going
[20:38] <knome> GridCube, i think it's just xfdesktop
[20:38] <knome> oh, hmm
[20:38] <GridCube> that package doesnt exists
[20:38] <knome> !info xfdesktop
[20:38] <knome> !info xfdesktop4
[20:38] <Unit193> xfdesktop4
[20:39] <knome> ok, weird..
[20:39] <knome> oh, ah,
[20:39] <elfy> did one of the 'ppa' things get in
[20:39] <knome> did you enable PPA's?
[20:39] <knome> yeah, that's why it says so
[20:39] <GridCube> me?
[20:40] <knome> if it's not a PPA, something else might be going on
[20:40] <knome> for now, i think you can still gather the data for the bug with ubuntu-bug
[20:40] <knome> if not, just file one manually
[20:40] <knome> that's a trivial thing; we need to set a sane default directory
[20:43] <GridCube> i have not set any ppa its just a default installation
[20:44] <GridCube> bug #1271713
[20:44] <elfy> GridCube: that's odd - works ok here for the live image
[20:45] <GridCube> im using the i386 iso
[20:45] <GridCube> if that means anything
[20:45] <elfy> ok - not looked at those I'm afraid
[20:46] <knome> can't think of any reason why the arch would matter
[20:46] <GridCube> no idea
[20:47] <elfy> then again why would ubuntu-bug xfdesktop4 work ok here for me
[20:50] <Noskcaj> elfy, perhaps the latest version you have is from the repos?
[20:50] <elfy> Noskcaj: then why is the 32 bit image not using the latest
[20:50] <elfy> and why is it using one apparently from a ppa?
[20:51] <Noskcaj> i've got no idea.
[20:51] <elfy> that's 4 of us then :p
[20:53] <GridCube> :/
[20:54] <GridCube> should i file a bug report about it
[20:54] <GridCube> ?
[20:54] <elfy> the ubuntu-bug thing?
[20:57] <elfy> GridCube: ^^
[20:58] <GridCube> yes
[20:58] <elfy> you can - but it'll fester forever I'd guess
[20:58] <elfy> I me too'd the desktop settings one
[20:59] <GridCube> bug 1271720
[21:02] <elfy> knome: I see what you mean by "reworded to "do what you usually do"" GridCube apparently plays games and fiddles with the wallpaper :p
[21:03] <GridCube> P: i do that
[21:03] <elfy> :)
[21:03] <elfy> I'd be reporting that clementine doesn't install and play music :)
[21:04] <elfy> me too'd the sudoku one as well :)
[21:06] <elfy> can't horozontally resize it either
[21:06] <elfy> GridCube: ^^
[21:07] <GridCube> no
[21:07] <GridCube> its stuck at more than 1024
[21:07] <GridCube> i cant resize it even here in 13.04
[21:07] <elfy> oh yea - read your bug properly now lol
[21:07] <elfy> that's really annoying for someone who uses it ...
[21:11] <GridCube> i would assume so
[21:11] <GridCube> true is that 1024 screens are less usual nowdays, but still
[21:12] <GridCube> it makes no sense why it would not resize if the sudoku itself resizes
[21:12] <elfy> it works in Ubuntu
[21:13] <elfy> odd
[21:13] <GridCube> it does?
[21:13] <GridCube> D:
[21:14] <elfy> yep - just asked balloons
[21:14] <GridCube> thats relly weird
[21:14] <elfy> yea
[21:17] <brainwash> GridCube: did pavucontrol look different before? it looks just as it did always to me
[21:18] <GridCube> brainwash, http://goput.it/kbe4.png
[21:19] <brainwash> mmh, now I'm not sure anymore :D
[21:20] <elfy> I looked at that in 64bit - was white - same as here on this machine
[21:21] <elfy> wonder if there's something odd going on with 32bit then
[21:21] <GridCube> it should not be white
[21:21] <GridCube> it should look like that last screenshot
[21:22] <elfy> well it's white here and on 64bit
[21:22] <brainwash> GridCube: please open abiword, is the top ruler hidden behind a white area?
[21:22] <GridCube> yes
[21:22] <brainwash> elfy: there was some recent change which turned some grey theme elements white
[21:22] <brainwash> same applies to abiword
[21:22] <GridCube> i think i added that to the test report
[21:23] <elfy> brainwash: in ppa or properly?
[21:23] <knome> elfy, heh :)
[21:23] <knome> off, bbl
[21:23] <elfy> cya tomorrow
[21:23] <knome> you too
[21:23] <GridCube> but is not white brainwash
[21:24] <GridCube> is grey http://goput.it/10h9.png
[21:24] <elfy> GridCube: is pavu white in the a2 ?
[21:24] <elfy> thought that's what you said earlier
[21:24] <GridCube> http://goput.it/str/bims.png
[21:25] <GridCube> yes is white
[21:25] <elfy> ok
[21:25] <elfy> so where's the grey one come from?
[21:26] <elfy> I'm confused now :p
[21:26] <brainwash> well, it's just a minor theme glitch
[21:26] <brainwash> white pavucontrol doesn't even look bad, looks almost perfectly normal
[21:27] <elfy> yep still needs reporting though - and GridCube has issues reporting with ubuntu-bug - it thinks he's got ppa's in the a2 live image
[21:27] <GridCube> elfy, the grey is the way it used to look on 13.04
[21:27] <elfy> which is weird as well
[21:27] <elfy> GridCube: I can't remember that far back :)
[21:27] <GridCube> and everytime before that
[21:27] <brainwash> run  apt-cache policy xfdesktop4
[21:28] <elfy> the sudoku thing is weird too
[21:29] <GridCube> brainwash, http://goput.it/7di8.png
[21:29] <GridCube> but maybe its because that box doesnt have a conection to the outside of the internet
[21:29] <GridCube> and can't download the apt lists
[21:30] <GridCube> ?
[21:30] <GridCube> xubuntu doesnt let people set up proxies in easy ways
[21:31] <brainwash> this would mean, that you cannot report anything via ubuntu-bug
[21:31] <GridCube> true. but why would it say, http://goput.it/hxv8.png
[21:32] <GridCube> it should says like "you are not connected to the internet" or something like that
[21:32] <elfy>   Installed: 4.11.2-0ubuntu1
[21:32] <elfy>   Candidate: 4.11.2-0ubuntu1
[21:32] <elfy>   Version table:
[21:32] <elfy>  *** 4.11.2-0ubuntu1 0
[21:32] <elfy>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages
[21:32] <elfy>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[21:32] <elfy> oops
[21:32] <GridCube> /exec -o
[21:32] <elfy> is what I get in 64bit a2
[21:32] <Unit193> GridCube: inxi -r  lists no ppas?
[21:32] <brainwash> according to apt-cache it's listed a local package without repo source
[21:33] <GridCube> Unit193, i can't install inxi with no internet
[21:33] <GridCube> :P
[21:33] <GridCube> brainwash, then why i get that message then?
[21:33] <brainwash> maybe yet another bug
[21:33] <brainwash> I'm not familiar with ubuntu-bug
[21:34] <elfy> GridCube: what's the md5sum of the image? should be cafd1e7ea0ea269e732ec9302f467ad0
[21:35] <GridCube> how do i get that
[21:36] <elfy> md5sum /path/to/the/download I guess
[21:36] <GridCube> mmm
[21:36] <GridCube> cafd1e7ea0ea269e732ec9302f467ad0
[21:36] <GridCube> it looks the same
[21:36] <elfy> yep
[21:37] <elfy> just thought I'd ask :)
[21:37] <GridCube> :)
[21:37] <Unit193> Noskcaj: ...Did you copy all patches?  Including wait-for-settings-manager.patch?  brainwash wanted me to add that to test something, which it didn't fix.  Might want to drop it.
[21:37] <Noskcaj> Unit193, oh. I'll drop that one now
[21:37] <Unit193> Unless he says otherwise, yeah.
[21:38] <brainwash> mmh, right... eric did not respond yet with a new (working) patch
[21:38] <brainwash> the current one is harmless, does basically nothing
[21:39] <Unit193> Yep, else I would have reverted it.
[21:42] <Unit193> brainwash: Do you think this fix will land in xfdesktop or another package?
[21:43] <brainwash> in xfdesktop4
[21:50] <elfy> back tomorrow
[22:15] <brainwash> Noskcaj: is your xfce4-indicator-plugin package (PPA) built from git/master?
[22:16] <Noskcaj> brainwash, no. 2.2.0
[22:17] <brainwash> so we need to wait for a new release then, some issues have been fixed recently (occasionally missing indicator icons and widget management)
[22:18] <Noskcaj> ok.
[22:18] <Noskcaj> Still no news of a panel or garcon release either?
[22:19] <Noskcaj> I can make a git snapshot if we really need it though
[22:21] <brainwash> it would help testing the new stuff which will land eventually in trusty, but on the other hand.. we have almost no testers
[22:22] <Noskcaj> I think i'll leave it for official releases from now, or patches. the ubuntu devs are worried about 4.11 being unstable, let alone git snapshots
[22:23] <brainwash> yes
[22:24] <brainwash> but we will ship xfwm4 4.11 or?
[22:25] <brainwash> 4.11 already includes the needed patches for bug 1232804
[22:25] <Noskcaj> brainwash, if possible
[22:25] <Unit193> But no tabwin. :(
[22:25] <Noskcaj> i've got the branch up, just need to bride someone with upload rights.
[22:26] <Noskcaj> Unit193, is tabwin able to be put in a release soon, or a least one, stable, patch?
[22:26] <brainwash> on top of that, the xfwm4 package requires to be build with MONITOR_ROOT_PIXMAP defined to actually enable the seamless transition
[22:26] <brainwash> it's not build that way by default
[22:28] <brainwash> and it's need to be tested of course, if it causes some unexpected trouble, we could disable it for the final release
[22:29] <Noskcaj> brainwash, i'd rather not risk uploading stuff that might break, what could it break and what does it do normally?
[22:29] <Unit193> Not sure if the issues I've had were with xfdesktop of xfwm, end up killing both.
[22:29] <brainwash> currently it doesn't break anything
[22:30] <brainwash> everything is patched to work properly
[22:30] <brainwash> xfwm 4.11 + xfdesktop 4.11
[22:31] <brainwash> basically we need it to tested by a large group of people :/
[22:31] <Noskcaj> I'd like to wait for more 4.11 stuff to land first, just so we know if it alone has bugs
[22:32] <brainwash> yes, but I'm afraid that a decision might get delayed until it's too late
[22:33] <brainwash> ali1234: ^ any thoughts?
[22:34] <Noskcaj> my suggestion is wait till early next month, since i should have upload rights then and we'll know if anything major has been broken
[22:34] <brainwash> can you subscribe to the linked bug report please? :)
[22:35] <brainwash> don't want to bother you with this over and over again, following the report should help instead
[22:39] <brainwash> GridCube: pavucontrol is mainly white in saucy with greybird from git, you should target your report against shimmer-themes
[22:41] <brainwash> but I assume that this is an intended change
[23:13] <bluesabre> Noskcaj: thanks for the upload, looks like menulibre is in sid and trusty now :)
[23:36] <xnox> pleia2: knome: it was not stuck on a queue at all. new ubiquity in release pocket for 4 hours now. SO if a respin is done, it will be picked up.
[23:37] <xnox> not sure who / why unblocked it from -proposed.


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[17:03] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, happy new year, I have a request. Can we consider unblocking i386 for a ppa and some packages that are not in the Ubuntu suite?
[17:03] <LocutusOfBorg> context is https://kx.studio/News/?action=view&url=changes-in-kxstudio-repositories-2
[17:03] <LocutusOfBorg> kxstudio-debian is the ppa...
[17:04] <LocutusOfBorg> context is that professional sound like DAW is crippled without those i386 proprietary libraries
[17:05] <LocutusOfBorg> I don't really know the context, but giving them i386 builds will allow them to move from 18.04 to 20.04 and newer without loosing everything
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[17:51] <Eickmeyer> LocutusOfBorg: Pretty sure he could request that from #launchpad if he wanted.
[17:51] <Eickmeyer> I'm friends with him IRL, I'll tell him.
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[02:05] <Pasq89> anybody knows how to send notifications from bash? (like the battery full notification)
[02:13] <Unit193> notify-send
[02:28] <Boom_Farmer> I'm trying to manually add a session option to lightDM. Is this the right place? Who do I do it?
[02:40] <Pasq89> Unit193, thanks a lot! do you know how \n is in there?
[02:41] <Unit193> notify-send Hello 'Hello\npeople'
[02:49] <Pasq89> Unit193, thank you again!!
[02:50] <Unit193> Sure.
[06:54] <Vermicelli> I just installed hamachi and some prereqs, and noticed that I've lost my wallpaper and my icons are rearranged and different. Logging out and back in shows me my old desktop look fora  second, but then the background goes blue, my icons change, and thunar shows me my home folder. Any ideas?
[06:55] <chelz> check your installer logs, undo the changes, see if the desktop comes back
[06:56] <chelz> if it does you can then install the prereqs one by one to see which breaks your desktop
[06:56] <Vermicelli> It doesn't seem totally broken, though. It shows me how it utually looks for justa  second, after I log back in.
[06:58] <Vermicelli> Google's not showing me right away- could you direct me toward the installer log?
[06:59] <chelz> there are a few i think. there's the dpkg and apt logs. not sure which would have it.
[06:59] <chelz> pretty sure its in a log somewhere
[06:59] <Unit193> /var/log/
[07:02] <Vermicelli> Nothing here I can use.
[07:07] <Vermicelli> So I removed everything I installed, through memory and autoremove. Desktop's fine now, but /home still opens as I log in, and now I have no window borders/frames. X-|
[07:08] <chelz> odd. well something you installed messed with stuff i guess, so one of those is to blame
[07:08] <Unit193> You can remove .cache/sessions (iirc) and you *can* nuke your settings, or backup and del.
[07:10] <Vermicelli> xfwm4 --replace did it.
[07:10] <Vermicelli> At least the borders part.
[07:13] <Vermicelli> What can I do to not have /home open at login?
[07:13] <beata1> I have sort of an opposite problem to puzzle out: I have maximus running, but my maximised windows come up with decorations at login. Unmaximising and maximising thereafter works as expected.
[07:23] <jadoe> beata1: I had that problem for years. I switched to devil's pie.
[07:26] <beata1> That may also be able to solve the issue with firefox not being restored to the proper workspaces. I shall look at it further.
[08:53] <dan64> I am running Xubuntu on a VirtualBox virtual machine. Running nmap kills the internet connection. Any ideas why this might be the case?
[08:58] <Unit193> https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/2899 Anything close to that?
[09:11] <calico> how could i make the mixer icon added thru Add new items on the panel work?
[11:54] <Kingsy> if I have a dual monitor setup.. can I add panels on the second monitor ?
[11:55] <Kingsy> oh lol nm
[12:21] <ronsonol> Installed 12.04 beta 1 AMD64 -- so far so good.
[12:21] <jatt> are new changes for xubuntu?
[12:21] <jatt> new xfce?
[12:21] <jatt> in 12.xx?
[12:22] <ronsonol> Mostly cosmetic, though alacarte is now included.
[12:27] <ronsonol> I was experiencing killer bugs with gimp in final days of 11.10 -- all appear resolved with 12.04.
[12:28] <Lachezar> Hello. Can I get gnome-keyring-manager to work in XUbuntu? I can see it running, but nether gpg-agent is available, and there is another ssh-agent impeding.
[12:29] <Lachezar> Which Gnome service should I start in order to get Multimedia Keys to work?
[12:29] <Lachezar> How do I configure keyboard with the same goodies as in Ubuntu?
[13:30] <Marzata> hey, after fresh install and upgrade, the default applications are missing. any idea for a fix?
[13:35] <Marzata> Lachezar: keyboard?
[13:35] <Marzata> Lachezar: installed xfce4-goodies?
[13:51] <Lachezar> Marzata: I want to use the Menu key to access special symbols (like Degree symbol with Menu+G).
[13:52] <Lachezar> Marzata: I have not installed all <goodies>, but installed the keyboard applet. Its configuration is ridiculously limited.
[13:54] <Marzata> menu+G?
[13:54] <Marzata> I just type it
[13:54] <Marzata> °
[13:55] <Marzata> altgr+shift+0
[13:55] <Marzata> °
[13:55] <Marzata> or the Icelandic ÞÐÆ...
[14:05] <Lachezar> Marzata: For me AltGr+G opens the Go menu inthe terminal, and AltGr+Shift+G does nothing.
[14:05] <Lachezar> Marzata: I regularly use the Right-Alt as normal Alt. That's why I want the Menu button for that.
[14:07] <Marzata> Ŋ - this is altgr+shift+G
[14:10] <TheSheep> Marzata: Ū
[14:10] <TheSheep> Marzata: every keyboard layout has different characters under alt+gr
[14:10] <TheSheep> alt_gr
[14:10] <TheSheep> Lachezar: you might want to set yourself a compose key
[14:14] <Marzata> what do you need the menu key for?
[14:26] <Lachezar> TheSheep: Compose is too-much work. When I was with Ubuntu the keyboard settings allowed me to select Menu for the Level3 switch (or something like that) and add additional graphics characters...
[14:27] <TheSheep> Lachezar: you can do that, with console-setup, iirc
[14:27] <TheSheep> Lachezar: dpkg-reconfigure console-setup --all
[14:27] <Lachezar> TheSheep: I am using a Terminal in XUbuntu, not the consoles.
[14:28] <TheSheep> Lachezar: the keyboard config is shared
[14:28] <Lachezar> TheSheep: DOH!
[14:28] <Lachezar> TheSheep: I actively reject the idea, that all users on the machine will have the same preferences!
[14:29]  * Lachezar wonders how will he make it up to his colleagues for making them switch to Linux...
[14:30] <TheSheep> then I guess it's playing with keyboard maps
[14:31] <TheSheep> well, excuse me that nobody did the work of including your specific configuration in some gui tool
[15:06] <mongy> what wrong with just using xmodmap for just your user to make a compose key.
[15:11] <TheSheep> mongy: you would need to touch the keyboARD
[15:11] <TheSheep> sorry for caps
[15:14] <mongy> :)
[15:17] <Marzata> the default applications are missing. any idea for a fix?
[15:18] <knome> ?
[15:18] <Marzata> install, add extras, do upgrade and ... this is the result
[15:20] <Marzata> ah, I did also install xfce4-goodies
[15:20] <TheSheep> Marzata: can you install xubuntu-desktop without uninstalling anything?
[15:21] <Marzata> Thermi: on the top of xubuntu?
[15:21] <Thermi> hm?
[15:22] <Marzata> Thermi: sorry, had to be for TheSheep
[15:22] <TheSheep> Marzata: why do you mean 'on top'?
[15:22] <Thermi> k.
[15:23] <Argafal> hi folks. I configured a xubuntu 11.10 installation in a way that the default user does not need a password but is readily logged-in after boot-up. I'd like to change this now and get a login manager instead - can someone tell me how to do this please?
[15:23] <Marzata> TheSheep: let me see
[15:26] <TheSheep> Argafal: how did you configure it?
[15:33] <Marzata> and why thunar starts slow?
[15:33] <Argafal> TheSheep: I was asked during installation
[15:35] <hobgoblin> Argafal: I'd look to see if it's set in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[15:36] <hobgoblin> that at least is where I put it manually
[15:36] <Argafal> hobgoblin: bingo, that's where it is.
[15:36] <hobgoblin> cool - comment it out or remove it and that should do it :)
[15:43] <Argafal> hobgoblin: thanks for pointing it out, did exactly what i wanted it to do.
[15:43] <hobgoblin> welcome - glad I could help :)
[15:47] <Lachezar> RE. I've finally found out what I need to do to get Menu+? combinations to work:
[15:47] <Lachezar> setxkbmap -option lv3:menu_switch,misc:typo
[15:47] <Lachezar> Now the question is how to make use of it, because now when I switch my layout it reverts these settings.
[15:49] <Lachezar> ... actually it is zeroed out when I open the Keyboard Applet preferences, not when switching layouts.
[19:19] <darkurza__> hi people, i have a question
[19:19] <darkurza__> i bought an EEE PC R052C yesterday and installed xubuntu
[19:19] <darkurza__> right now the resolution is stuck at 800x600 and cant be changed
[19:19] <darkurza__> hot keys wont work either
[19:19] <darkurza__> is there a known fix for this?
[20:30] <joana> Hi all. Got a nasty problem. Downloaded JWM to try it out.  Only the cursor shows. I can't log out and a reboot won't help cause autologin is enabled. Ideas anyone? I'm a little desperate...
[20:31] <TheSheep> joana: JWM?
[20:31] <joana> joes window manager
[20:31] <joana> http://askubuntu.com/questions/109494/jwm-session-shows-black-screen-in-xubuntu
[20:31] <TheSheep> how did you install it?
[20:31] <Sysi> altGr printScrn K could give you login screen
[20:32] <joana> synaptic --> jwm
[20:34] <joana> @sysi no login screen :-(
[20:37] <joana> any ideas?
[20:41] <Sysi> press Ctrl Alt F6, do you get text login?
[20:43] <joana> Ctrl-Alt-F3 gives me text login but I don't know how to choose xubuntu session
[20:43] <joana> do you know the command?
[20:43] <joana> sudo service gdm restart
[20:43] <joana> I mean lightdm
[20:43] <joana> but how to log into a xubuntu session?
[20:45] <holstein> i would disable auto login
[20:45] <holstein> espeially if you want to be experimenting with different DE's at login
[20:47] <joana> yeah I know
[20:47] <joana> fucked up...
[20:48] <holstein> joana: try and keep it clean in here.. its logged an official support channel and all that
[20:48] <holstein> joana: what you got is totally fixable... just annoying... and now you know :)
[20:49] <joana> well sorrz
[20:49] <joana> sorry
[20:50] <jonatan> Hello :)
[20:50] <TheLastBaron> And I said HeeeEyyeEEEyEEEYEE
[20:54] <joana> Does anybody know where the config file is located that states the default session?
[20:56] <hydester> i started to use compiz on xubuntu.  it seems okay, but i can't change my Window Manager settings via the settings menu.  there are no longer options in the panel.
[20:56] <TheSheep> joana: .dmrc
[20:57] <hydester> i want to change it to have window focus follow mouse, where it did before running compiz
[20:57] <TheSheep> !compiz | hydester
[20:58] <hydester> TheSheep: it just looked like it isn't playing nice with xfwm settings.  wasn't sure which part to pursue
[20:59] <TheSheep> hydester: if you use compiz, you are not using xfwm anymore
[20:59] <TheSheep> hydester: so those settings are irrelevant
[21:01] <hydester> ok, i'll just go back to xfwm.  just discovered Awn and was thinking compiz was needed for it.  it looks like it still works and icons jump when using xfwm
[21:02] <hydester> it just seemed that this panel was nicer than xubuntu stock
[21:02] <hydester> i wonder if this is what inspired the unity panel
[21:03] <TheSheep> unity was mostly "inspired" by macosx
[21:04] <TheSheep> awn too
[21:06] <joana> fixed it, did a boot from cd and deleted jwm session
[21:41] <beata> Mrgh. MacOS system 7, now there was a system =)
[22:10] <TheLastBaron> I have ubuntu right now
[22:10] <TheLastBaron> and in a couple of minutes I will go over to Xubuntu permanently :)
[22:58] <TheLastBaron> Is anyone awake around here :D ?


[16:07] <jpds> Why does the vivid-lts kernel on trusty install thermald?
[17:50] <apw> jpds, because it is recommended with the pstate_idle that contains
[19:01] <unixabg> apw: greetings, any word on the overlayfs and casper?


[00:07] <morri> how can I see how much my internet traffic is? can I see it in terminal?
[00:12] <phillw> morri: not a default for lubuntu, but  there are programs which can do it.
[00:13] <morri> Is there one which just gives you the numbers via terminal (so doesn't need a gui or browser just show numbers?
[00:15] <phillw> morri: let me have a quick dig for you, it will be several minutes.
[00:16] <pcroque> morri: I like iptraf
[00:17] <morri> thanks it is not in the repositories is it?
[00:18] <phillw> pcroque: looks good so far... no dependaencies :)
[00:19] <pcroque> Project page is: iptraf.seul.org
[00:20] <morri> last news were from 2005 , but as long as it will work
[00:24] <phillw> morri:  take a look over http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-ubuntu-users.html and see which is best for you.
[00:25] <morri> I'll have a look thanks
[08:51] <LubuntuPowered> anyone have a screenshot of 12.04 so i can masturbate to it properly please
[09:30] <bkerensa> !rules | LubuntuPowered
[09:30] <ubot5`> LubuntuPowered: The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines
[09:33] <bkerensa> LubuntuPowered: Lets keep it appropriate please
[09:34] <bioterror> ? D:
[09:34] <bioterror> bkerensa, next time: !language
[09:34] <bkerensa> bioterror: thanks :)
[09:44] <head_victim> bioterror & bkerensa - also !codeofconduct ;)
[09:44] <head_victim> http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu&search=&order=popularity%20DESC&page=0 if you get bored :)
[09:45] <bkerensa> head_victim: Thanks :) I was just tired with I did rules (It is almost 2am here)
[09:45] <head_victim> No worries, I bookmarked the db so I can always find what i need in a hurry
[09:45] <head_victim> I didn't know it existed for ages though
[09:46] <bioterror> !langauge
[09:46] <ubot5`> Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.
[09:46] <bioterror> :D
[09:52] <iceroot> great now we have a lock-screen shortcut and the focus-bug on lxpanelctl run fixed :)
[17:44] <LubuntuPowered> my smart phone (birth year 2010 - free with 2 year plan) is more powerful than my pc (birth year 2000 - around $2000)
[17:45] <LubuntuPowered> that is all.
[17:47] <Myrtti> right?
[17:50] <Sentynel> moore's law strikes again
[18:34] <DJango_Novice> hi
[18:35] <DJango_Novice> im using and lubuntu and when try to open user and group management in gui.. it seems to be disabled
[18:35] <DJango_Novice> any idea???
[18:39] <LubuntuPowered> reformat
[18:39] <DJango_Novice> LubuntuPowered: is it for me
[18:46] <DJango_Novice> my user-admin is disabled
[18:46] <DJango_Novice> any idea???
[18:48] <holstein> DJango_Novice: what are you trying to accomplish?
[18:50] <DJango_Novice> holstein: I juset want to add few users for SVN but my user settings is disabled
[18:51] <DJango_Novice> it opens a window but every input control on it is disabled
[18:53] <holstein> sudo adduser whoever... you can try opening the application in the terminal to see if you have any error messages... you can try opening it with gksudo command.... i cant remember what the application is called in lubuntu off the top of my head
[18:56] <DJango_Novice> holstein: its called user-admin and im using gksudo ...its not giving me any errors on terminal but it should work in gui as well
[18:56] <DJango_Novice> this user settings window seems to be loading forever
[19:32] <smile> doei :)
[20:53] <grobda24> Can I setup a wireless access point in the gui to connect an eeepc and a nintendo ds ?
[21:16] <bioterror> grobda24, it should be possible to configure your wlan as hotspot
[21:17] <grobda24> bioterror, through the usual network config gui ?
[21:17] <bioterror> yes
[21:18] <bioterror> there should be option "Create a new wireless network"
[21:18] <wxl> grobda24: assumedly you mean uhhh ad hoc mode? is that right?
[21:18] <grobda24> infrastructure
[21:18] <grobda24> I don't think the nitendo ds deos adhoc
[21:18] <bioterror> and remember DS likes WEP
[21:18] <bioterror> at least my old 1st gen NDS only accepts WEP
[21:19] <grobda24> yes, I'm using an eee pc so I can isolate it all from my network
[21:19] <wxl> i have the DSi doing WPA2
[21:20] <bioterror> things have changed since 2005
[21:20] <wxl> a bit
[21:20] <grobda24> it's not for net access, just for transferring files
[21:21] <wxl> sure sounds like ad hoc to me
[21:21] <wxl> maybe i'm confused tho so i'll shut up ;)
[21:21] <grobda24> but I wonder if the the ath5k driver is capable of it as this guide changes the driver .. which I don't have installed ... yet
[21:21] <grobda24> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1218554
[21:22] <wxl> i guess there's only one way to find out :/
[21:32] <micahg> anyone available to test gecko-mediaplayer on lucid and maverick from -proposed?
[21:33] <wxl> micahg: i would but i'm running oneric and building a new precise vbox while doing my regular work so processor is a bit limited right now :)
[21:34] <micahg> wxl: doesn't have to be right, now, but you think you could do it?
[21:37] <wxl> micahg: maybe. i've got a ton of things going on. maybe check if there's any others that can help in #lubuntu-offtopic
[21:38] <wxl> micahg: possibly #ubuntu-testing
[21:41] <micahg> well, I figured to try here since I thought lubuntu ships it, I put out a call for testing in other channels before and no one's tested it AFAICT
[21:43] <wxl> micahg: my deal is i haven't used anything prior to natty EVER.
[21:48] <micahg> wxl: there's a version in natty-proposed as well :)
[21:49] <AmberJ> Hello
[21:50] <AmberJ> I have xchat set to autostart on system startup. It worked fined for few weeks but now when system boots, neither xchat window is not in "Task Bar"  nor xchat button is in system tray
[21:51] <AmberJ> 'ps aux | grep xchat' shos xchat running in background but I don't see any window/button
[21:52] <Sentynel> AmberJ: try switching virtual desktop
[21:52] <AmberJ> This problem happens only with xchat that is autostarted on system startup. If I manually start xchat, I see xchat window on my desktop
[21:52] <AmberJ> Sentynel, tried that. It's not visible on any of virtual desktops
[21:53] <Sentynel> if you manually start it does it have a systray item as well as the taskbar?
[21:54] <AmberJ> yes, both
[21:55] <Sentynel> try changing the autostart command so xchat's stdout and stderr are written to a file somewhere, then have a look at that and see if there's anything illuminating in it
[21:56] <wxl> micahg: i know i have it going in oneric but my time with natty was pretty short
[21:56] <wxl> it meaning -rposed
[21:56] <wxl> grr proposed
[21:56] <wxl> i'd be curious if that's not a problem with xchat
[21:56] <wxl> but i gotta jet