[23:16] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: wireness interfaces usually starts with wlan*
[23:16] <pfifo> danny, yeah, but im not 100% sure of how well maintained backtracks drivers are for kismet, it can do alot more, where as aircrack is specifically for kismet/airocrack
[23:16] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: wireless*
[23:16] <Pipmas> alexsn:^
[23:17] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: there is nothing relating to 'wireless' in the output
[23:17] <danny> pfifo: Alright thanks! So I should be downloading the "Slitaz Aircrack-ng Distribution" to boot from, right?
[23:17] <alexsn> Pipmas: it's better to mount it using uuid and not by/dev entry
[23:17] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: err return whatever you want to call it
[23:17] <alexsn> Pipmas: run 'blkid'
[23:18] <Diamondcite> ... aircrack.. so that's the purpose ^_^
[23:18] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: what entries do you see?
[23:18] <pfifo> danny, sounds good
[23:18] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: 1. lo: 2. eth0
[23:18] <Henriquez> Does anyone know if you can delay an application (VMware Server 2 ) from running ?
[23:18] <danny> pfifo: perfect, thanks!
[23:18] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: and then gibberish
[23:18] <pfifo> Diamondcite, penetration testing of course
[23:19] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: that means your wireless card is either not connected or there's no driver for it
[23:19] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: crap
[23:19] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: is there any 'hub' for downloading drivers for ubuntu?
[23:20] <Phlunk3> Hi guys, I have an issue with youtube (and all other flash) as well as videos (avi etc on my hdd)  suddenly videos are speed up and there is no sound, can anyone suggest a solution or point me towards some information regarding this?
[23:20] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: not that i know of, you should check the manufacturer site for a linux driver
[23:20] <fhughson_> how is everyone today?
[23:20] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, you shouldnt download software from anywhere except the ubuntu repos, ass a rule of thumb
[23:20] <Pipmas> alexsn: typed that command in terminal, it gave me a list of partitions
[23:20] <alexsn> Pipmas: still need help?
[23:20] <qin> Kr3m1in: Drivers are in repos, PPA, on vendor site, or git, Do not use anything else.
[23:20] <th0r> Kr3m1in: if you have the windows drivers look at ndiswrapper
[23:21] <Pipmas> alexsn: not sure what to do next
[23:21] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: Well I guess i should figure out what wifi card i have in my laptop...
[23:21] <alexsn> Pipmas: ok you got the UUID for /dev/sda2?
[23:21] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: any way to profile that on ubuntu?
[23:21] <Pipmas> alexsn: yes
[23:21] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: *in
[23:21] <vorbis5> alexsn, the computers name is stealthaim-pc with ip of <IP_ADDRESS>
[23:22] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: 'lspci -nv' will give you all the divices
[23:22] <alexsn> Pipmas: ok then, Add the following to /etc/fstab
[23:23] <Benkinooby> hi, i am wirting a small script to suspend my laptop after 30 minutes. #! /bin/bash; sleep 1800; pm-suspend; ... do i have to add an exit 0; ?
[23:23] <alexsn> Pipmas: UUID=xxxxxxxxx     			/mnt/windows 	ntfs 	rw,user,noexec,noatime,umask=0 		0 	0
[23:23] <alexsn> Pipmas: replace xxxx with the uuid you got from blkid
[23:24] <alexsn> Pipmas: and /mnt/windows with the mount point you want
[23:24] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: Is there some sort of identifier that i should look for after i enter the script?
[23:24] <G00053> !automate
[23:24] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: I'm not seeing any 'key words' like 'wifi' etc.
[23:24] <Pipmas> alexsn: thank you so much
[23:24] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: you can filter by class
[23:25] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: I'm not sure which class wifi cards get
[23:25] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: well then...
[23:25] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: perhaps google would help?
[23:25] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: what would I search for?
[23:26] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: try lspci -vv
[23:26] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: it's more verbose
[23:26] <zerosniper> hmmm, startx hangs and crashes to command line unless i use sudo startx any ideas?
[23:27] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: Would the device for ethernet control wifi too?
[23:27] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, just pastebin it, your looking for "ethernet"
[23:28] <qin> zerosniper: Did you stop gdm?
[23:28] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: I did the command lspci -vv, and I see devices for 'ethernet control' as well as 'network controller'
[23:28] <zerosniper> possibly
[23:28] <zerosniper> how can i check?
[23:28] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, does 'iwconfig' give any model numbers/product names
[23:28] <zerosniper> qin: sdm stop/waiting
[23:29] <zerosniper> is this the reason?
[23:29] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: 'ethtool -i eth0'
[23:29] <qin> No, try: xinit -- :1 vt8
[23:29] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, is this a USB device?
[23:29] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: match the bus you see there with the output of lspci
[23:29] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: it is not a usb device
[23:29] <NFischer> Hi all! i need help.. ive created a channels.conf with "scan".. now it did not find many of my wanted channels.. i added them manually into the channels.conf.. now those manually added channels dont give out any video but audio only.. im quite sure that parameters are correct for those channels.. mplayer says "NO VIDEO! AUDIO MPA(pid=102) NO SUBS (yet)!  PROGRAM N. 0" any suggestions of how to solve that issue?!
[23:30] <zerosniper> qin:  can i restart gdm?
[23:30] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, can you just copy paste the output of lspci to http://fpaste.org or do you not have internet
[23:31] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: entered command 'iwconfig' return: lo, eth0, easytether0 (my temp. solution to access my network) status: no wireless extensions
[23:31] <qin> zerosniper: Sure, if you with to see login screen
[23:31] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: oh,
[23:31] <itilious> is there an alternative, better working, flash player for ubuntu besides adobe's flash player?
[23:31] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: thanks, ill try it out...
[23:31] <itilious> never seems to work properly on ubuntu ..
[23:32] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: what would be my wireless: 'network controller' or 'ethernet controller'?
[23:33] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: both devices has a pci bus
[23:33] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, google searh both of them and see if you can determine
[23:34] <Rioting_Pacifist> netstat shows no proccesses communicating on ipv4 but wireshark shows loads of traffic, is there anything i can do to find which process is sending out data?
[23:34] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: the ethernet controller has a pci express fast tag to it
[23:34] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: ok
[23:34] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: you have eth0 on your machine, run 'ethtool -i eth0' and look to the bus for the ethernet card
[23:34] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: your wireless will be the other one
[23:34] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, youll want to put in the model number or chipset name, not just "network controller"
[23:36] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: what type of traffic is it?
[23:36] <Rioting_Pacifist> UDP, TCP and ICMP
[23:36] <Phlunk3> sorry for repeat, but cant seem to figure this one out. I have an issue with youtube (and all other flash) as well as videos (avi etc on my hdd)  suddenly videos are speed up and there is no sound, can anyone suggest a solution or point me towards some information regarding this?
[23:36] <esc__> hello, is there a way to delay the alsa output? i want to "synchronize" an mpd stream and alsa output. mpd is configured to output to alsa and httpd.
[23:36] <pfifo> Rioting_Pacifist, try `sudo netstat -l`
[23:37] <Kr3m1in> alexsn: that command isn't working... i have to install it with a command. I tried the command, installation failed
[23:37] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: icmp packets is handled by the kernel so there's no process associated with it
[23:37] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: what do you want exactly? I'm talking to two people at once, multitasking with my ubuntu laptop and my pc laptop... I apologize because the multitasking is sending my mind in so many different ways
[23:38] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: on the tcp / udp is your machine the destination?
[23:38] <kiichiro> is there a way to search for files on ubuntu?
[23:38] <alexsn> kiichiro: man find
[23:38] <qin> kiichiro: find
[23:38] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, firstly, just do a plain 'lspci' no -vv
[23:38] <Rioting_Pacifist> pfifo: netstat doesn't show anything other than dhcp and now konversation
[23:39] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: ok two results regarding networking...
[23:39] <pfifo> Rioting_Pacifist, are you sure its your computer wireshark is sniffing this traffic from?
[23:39] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: network controller: Ralink corp. device 5390
[23:39] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, what do they say? in detail
[23:39] <Rioting_Pacifist> alexsn: its sometimes source sometimes destination
[23:40] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: and there's no listeners on the dst ports?
[23:40] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 02)
[23:40] <qin> Rioting_Pacifist: iftop
[23:40] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, its the RaLink
[23:40] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: so just google the driver from there, huh?
[23:40] <qin> Rioting_Pacifist: Wireshark "see" many things.
[23:41] <dijonyummy123> anyone might know why nothing happens when i right-click the gnome menu in 10.10 do Edit Menus, it used to give me that alacarte thing but just does nothing now
[23:41] <qin> Rioting_Pacifist: Also ngrep is usefull.
[23:42] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, i googled 'ralink 5930 ubuntu 10.04' and got some good looking hits on how to setup the device
[23:42] <lolmatic> can anyone tell me how to mount an ntfs(-3g) folder read only in another folder by using fstab?
[23:42] <pfifo> 5390*
[23:42] <uqur> hi, i have a problem,
[23:42] <uqur> about compiz
[23:42] <Rioting_Pacifist> qin: iftop is still showing the same results alexsn netstat -lp only shows only dhcp and konversation
[23:43] <pfifo> lolmatic, have you already tried on your own and ran into a problem or do you need a guide for fstab?
[23:43] <uqur> can you help me
[23:43] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: no, its ralink 5390, i apologize for the typo if i entered it wrong when i first send the details
[23:43] <lolmatic> pfifo: i have tried various fstab options. but i didnt get it to work
[23:43] <pfifo> Kr3m1in, i corrected myself a couple lines later
[23:43] <pfifo> lolmatic, can you paste your fstab line please
[23:43] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: if you're machine is the destination but noone listens on the dst port the packet will be discarded
[23:44] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: but wireshark will still see it
[23:44] <lolmatic> pfifo: i always get the message that it is mounted read-write and when i unmount the folder the other mount gets unmounted, too
[23:44] <Phlunk3> sorry for repeat, but cant seem to figure this one out. I have an issue with youtube (and all other flash) as well as in banshee and media player videos (avi etc on my hdd)  suddenly videos are speed up and there is no sound, these same files open fine in vlc, can anyone suggest a solution or point me towards some information regarding this?
[23:44] <Rioting_Pacifist> alexsn: but on some i'm the source
[23:44] <uqur> please help me
[23:44] <Core_UK> my sound just went REALLY weird, can i restart something to correct it
[23:44] <Core_UK> ?*
[23:45] <pfifo> lolmatic, in that case please pastebin the output of this "cat /etc/fstab && cat /etc/mtab && mount"
[23:45] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: what packets are those when you're source
[23:45] <lolmatic> pfifo: /media/STUFF/media      /home/cgboard/download  bind    ro,bind 0       0
[23:45] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: what's above tcp / udp?
[23:46] <Rioting_Pacifist> always going to 6881 which is a torrent port afaik "  3.710363 <IP_ADDRESS> -> <IP_ADDRESS> TCP 6881 > 54940 [RST, ACK] Seq=1 Ack=1 Win=0 Len=0"
[23:46] <uqur> hi, i have a problem compiz, please help me
[23:46] <pfifo> lolmatic, see above, i dont want to tell you something thats going to break something
[23:48] <qin> Rioting_Pacifist: Do you use transmission?
[23:48] <lolmatic> pfifo: well i want the folder /media/STUFF/media which is on an already mounted ntfs-3g partition to be mounted in /home/cgboard/download read only in fstab. i had it running some time ago but i lost the fstab :(
[23:48] <pfifo> qin, transmossion is 51413, rtorrent is 6881
[23:48] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: maybe some is spoofing your machine?
[23:48] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: is that possible?
[23:49] <Rioting_Pacifist> qin: no I use ktorrent but it is off
[23:49] <lolmatic> pfifo: root@Kommander:/home/cgboard# mount download
[23:49] <lolmatic> mount: warning: /home/cgboard/download seems to be mounted read-write.
[23:49] <Rioting_Pacifist> alexsn: but then why would wireshark see the packets
[23:49] <qin> Rioting_Pacifist: sudo netstat -tupa
[23:49] <pfifo> lolmatic, are you familiar with how to use a pastebin?
[23:49] <lolmatic> pfifo: it was only 2 lines
[23:50] <Rioting_Pacifist> qin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/629011/ no torrent programs
[23:50] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: when your machine receives with unexpected seq number you're machine will respond with a RST packet
[23:50] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: it's the way tcp works
[23:50] <centHOGG> sometimes an oatmeal packet
[23:50] <qin> alexsn: Torrent use udp
[23:50] <pfifo> lolmatic, pastebin this "cat /etc/fstab && cat /etc/mtab && cat mount && sudo blkid && sudo fdisk -l"
[23:51] <alexsn> qin: he pasted tcp
[23:51] <pfifo> lolmatic, it should be a huge amount of data
[23:51] <Rioting_Pacifist> alexsn: ok and all the UDP is incoming, so it sounds like my router/firewall is screwed
[23:52] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: is it always from the same host?
[23:52] <skooz2011> my card reader is not working.  using ubuntu 11.04 on an acer laptop
[23:52] <pfifo> Rioting_Pacifist, try "ps aux" to check for a torrent program that is running
[23:52] <qin> Rioting_Pacifist: tcptrack have option to see udp packets, but all you need to do is to restart torrent client and close it gracefully, so all connection should terminate, if this fails (few minutes) restart your router (if possible)
[23:53] <pfifo> Rioting_Pacifist, try 'sudo netstat -lavM'
[23:53] <Rioting_Pacifist> pfifo: netstat: no support for `ip_masquerade' on this system.
[23:54] <pfifo> Rioting_Pacifist, drop the M from that command then
[23:54] <Rioting_Pacifist> qin: I don't have rtorrent or transmition
[23:54] <qin> Rioting_Pacifist: You did not use torrent?
[23:55] <Rioting_Pacifist> qin: no i use Ktorrent
[23:56] <andrewS> question: best software to run windows7 as a vm from ubuntu's 32 bit desktop?
[23:56] <alexsn> Rioting_Pacifist: it's a bit weird, you see incoming udp packets and your machine respond with tcp RST?
[23:56] <Rioting_Pacifist> alexsn: qin: pfifo: thanks guys, I'm pretty sure alexsn is right and my system is fine just getting hit by scans from the internet because my router is screwed
[23:56] <[THC]AcidRain> Question: if i change my hostname, does that mean when someone types in example.com into their browser, it will forward to my ip address?
[23:56] <phrostbite> How do I run a .tgz file?
[23:56] <[THC]AcidRain> just wondering if it even works like that
[23:56] <MrUnagi> how do you open a new shell in cli
[23:56] <[THC]AcidRain> i havent researched it yet
[23:56] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: Ok, I found instructions, however it it is made with 32 bit systems in mind. I run x64. Refer to this: http://atinfinity.wordpress.com/2011/05/21/ralink-rt5390-wi-fi-driver-on-ubuntu-11-04/
[23:56] <centHOGG> dns
[23:57] <tiocsti> phorost: it's an archive. tar -zxf filename.tgz
[23:57] <riddlah> hello folks. I'm going to ask about the topic that everyone's probably sick of.... broadcom sta wireless
[23:57] <ilduska> privet
[23:57] <centHOGG> bcm43
[23:57] <qin> Rioting_Pacifist: ktorrent is also silly
[23:58] <riddlah> I've been able to get b43 working but it's slower than Christmas, and wondering if I could get any better luck with STA. Everything I've tried has failed.
[23:58] <Kr3m1in> pfifo: what do I do with the x64 patch?
[23:59] <Rioting_Pacifist> Kr3m1in: apply it allong with the other patches
[23:59] <clavius_> i need help linking a live.com mail account to my evolution
[23:59] <clavius_> does live use pop protocol?
[23:59] <alexsn> Kr3m1in: you're trying to compile a driver, you sure you know what you're doing?


[07:06] <kuzmaster> hey all!
[06:59] <shwag> is there a security team for packages in universe ?
[07:01] <shwag> trac 0.9.3 has XSS vulnerabilities in it. http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/ChangeLog
[07:54] <fabbione> sharms: #ubuntu-motu
[07:54] <fabbione> universe is not supported
[09:13] <shwag__> I thought I did the exact same thing to set each of these servers up, but somehow one ended up with apache2-mpm-prefork, and the other ended up with apache2-mpm-worker. Any ideas on how that could have happened?
[09:32] <shwag__> Maybe apt-get install apache2  is able to tell which mpm module for apache2 is best based on the processor type ??
[09:36] <thom> no
[09:37] <thom> apache2 depends on worker | prefork  and with no other influence it'll install worker
[09:38] <thom> so i guess you have something that depends explicitly on prefork, like php


 "guys" is useally applied to everyone. Irrelevant to gender
 At one point gay just meant happy. Now it has more then one.
[05:02] <wxl> here we are discussing it because it's not clear. avoid ambiguity: don't use ambiguous words.
[05:03] <wxl> put into the context of software, ambiguous instructions lead to unintended results. follows in real life, too.
 I guess someone can't say "I am gay" because we don't know if they mean I am happy or homosexual?
[05:15] <diogenes_> :)) good point ^^^
 Same with queer
 It's very ambiguous
 and.....strange
[05:30] <wxl[m]> I don't think sometime saying they are queer or gay is the same as referring wholesale to people as guys. If you want to say "I'm a guy" no big deal. Not the same, though.
 I was making the comparison because some words change meaning depending on context. Since ambiguity is trying to be minimized I through in a couple more we should avoid.
[05:40] <wxl[m]> What I'm suggesting is removing ambiguity where it runs the risk of being potentially uninclusive. That wouldn't apply to your examples.
 I guess I just prefer things more concise.
 Hello ✋
 Hey @amaroq :)
 @tsimonq2 [Hey @amaroq :)], hey... 😽
 I'm running Lubuntu on an old machine, here but looking forward to LXQT version.
 Wonderful :)
[12:56] <jrwren> hello, I just noticed the a href to https://lubuntu.me/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/shot_media-1024x819.png is missing on https://lubuntu.me/about/
 @jrwren [<jrwren> hello, I just noticed the a href to https://lubuntu.me/wp-content/uploa …], Good eye!
 I'll fix it unless @VikingRedwolf gets to it before me.
 Is beta testing last stage before final release?
 @amaroq [Is beta testing last stage before final release?], Yes
 @jrwren [<jrwren> hello, I just noticed the a href to https://lubuntu.me/wp-content/uploa …], Added to my tasks. Thanks for noticing 😉
[17:07] <babag> having a problem with multiple (4) monitors.
[17:07] <babag> when i place an icon on my desktop, it appears four times, once on each monitor.
[17:07] <babag> anyone know how to stop this?
[17:08] <babag> this setup is lubuntu fresh install. used nvidia proprietary software to position screens.
[17:08] <babag> screen positioning wasn't possible with native display prefs.
[17:08] <babag> oops. using lxde desktop.
[19:32] <qwefytuoityty> It is necessary to check. If I start pcmanfm with sudo and I edit fstab. After reboot I see many errors (F8) during start of an operating system. After start OS I see text of input of the login and the password, but in OS auto-logon without password. The password doesn't accept or the login. Pcmanfm-> fstab-> edited in leafpad. Reboot OS. 100% of fstab after editing it is correct.
[19:38] <qwefytuoityty> lxterminal -> sudo pcmanfm-> right mouse, open fstab in leafpad, edite, save, close.
[19:41] <qwefytuoityty> btrfs, i use compression zstd
[19:42] <qwefytuoityty> fstab edited for compression
[19:44] <qwefytuoityty> lubuntu 18 64
[19:48] <qwefytuoityty> the right mouse


[09:56] <Rinchen> Re: Matt's fridge story - he's offline for the day so he'll probably fix that in the morning
[09:56] <Rinchen> if one of you guys wants to approve that after that line is rewritten, +1.
[09:56] <Rinchen> or if you find anything else that needs to be rewritten, +2 :-)
[10:50] <robitaille> Rinchen:  I'll take a look at that article tonight
[10:50] <Rinchen> Thanks.
[10:51] <mdke> would be nice to get an article on the Dell story too
[10:51] <mdke> shall we mail the marketing team and ask them to contribute? might be a good chance to get them involved
[10:51] <Rinchen> At this point, Canonical employees cannot comment on Dell.
[10:51] <robitaille> hummm...planet.u.c doesn't  seem to update.  On the day where there is probably a bunch of blog entries about Dell-Ubuntu
[10:52] <mdke> robitaille: yeah, it was disabled. However, now that Canonical has announced the news, it should be reactivated again - I've asked the admins
[10:53] <robitaille> what?  it was disabled because of the Dell story????
[10:53] <mdke> yes, unfortunately
[10:54] <mdke> there was a leak, and it was blocked in a rather heavy handed way, at least that's the impression I got.
[10:54] <mdke> anyway, now the news is all live so we could write something
[10:56] <robitaille> I guess the leak was that Canonical employee who blogged about it...I see that his entry is now gone from the site
[10:56] <mdke> yes, 2 other community members linked to his story and were removed too; seems planet hasn't been updating since then
[10:57] <mdke> but the news has been public for quite a few hours now, no sure why it hasn't been restored
[10:57] <robitaille> I find all this a bit disturbing.  it is one thing to control your direct employees...it is something else to remove entries of community members, and block the whole site for hours
[10:59] <mdke> yes, I agree. There was a bit of an overreaction...
[11:00] <robitaille> Interestingly my blog entry survived on planet...must be because it was clearled labelled a rumour
[11:00] <mdke> exactly, yes
[11:05] <robitaille> I have noticed in recent weeks that  I making the decision on more and more posts of mine to not appear on planet...some sort of self-censorship; even for posts somewhat related to Ubuntu.  I'm starting to think that maybe I should simply remove myself from the planet.
[11:05] <robitaille> going to a more complete freedom of expression :)
[11:06] <Rinchen> robitaille, I hope you don't.  I like the fact that you are there.
[11:06] <robitaille> Rinchen: 90% of my blog posts don't make it on Planet already
[11:06] <mdke> post more to planet
[11:07] <mdke> I like your posts and won't read them unless they end up there
[11:07] <Rinchen> I've noticed but didn't think it was that high a percentage.
[11:07] <Rinchen> I've had to self-censor myself so now I only use my blog to post about ubuntu in general.  The problem is, some of the stuff I really want to post on, I'm not in a position to comment on. :-)
[11:07] <robitaille> essentially anything tag "ubuntu" goes to planet, anything else stay on my blog.   Too much non-ubuntu stuff on planet could be seen as spam
[11:08] <mdke> I think people should post everything on their blog to the planet
[11:08] <mdke> non-Ubuntu related stuff is interesting too, because the whole people is to find out more about contributors
[11:08] <mdke> obviously, if people don't want to, that's fine. I'm just saying that I like seeing it
[11:11] <Rinchen> Me personally, I like to see Ubuntu and related but not anything else except life announcements (e.g. "It's a boy!")
[11:12] <mdke> how come?
[11:13] <Rinchen> info overload
[11:14] <Rinchen> If I like someone's posts in general, I'll add their feed
[11:14] <Rinchen> otherwise, I like to hear the buzz on a particular topic, in this case, Ubuntu and related
[11:14] <robitaille> I know that I write 3-4 posts a day on my blog.  if they all to planet, and 20 others members do the same, that's a very busy planet
[11:14] <mdke> robitaille: nothing compared to planet Gnome
[11:15] <Rinchen> planet mayhem you mean? ;-)
[11:15] <robitaille> mdke:  and that's why I don't subscribe to planet Gnome...too busy and not focused enough :)
[11:15] <mdke> ah, I quite like it


[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #133395 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Wireless hiccuping on Dell XPS M1330" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133395
[12:20] <ubotu> New bug: #133396 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "[Gutsy]  kernel "segmentation fault" messages on start" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133396
[12:25] <ubotu> New bug: #133397 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "[Gutsy]  wireless-connection not ready on start" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133397
[12:35] <ubotu> New bug: #133399 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  Wings 2" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133399
[12:41] <ubotu> New bug: #133400 in Ubuntu "login screen does not display users" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133400
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #133401 in deskbar-applet (main) "tracker plugin should be enabled by default now that tracker is part of default desktop" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133401
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #133402 in tracker (main) "Indexing Preferences menu item shouldn't have redundant 'Preferences'" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133402
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #133403 in ubiquity (main) "ubiquity hangs on step 2 of 7: language selection" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133403
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #133404 in openafs (universe) "openafs-modules-source doesn't build in Gutsy 2.6.22-9-generic" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133404
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #133405 in tracker (main) "Tracker should install a .desktop file that replaces places-search gnome-search-tool" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133405
[01:15] <ubotu> New bug: #133406 in kompile (universe) "kompile cannot decompress/configure" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133406
[02:00] <ubotu> New bug: #133407 in ekiga (main) "Ekiga would not disconnect hang up or quit from self test s" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133407
[02:05] <ubotu> New bug: #133408 in gsynaptics (universe) "[gutsy]  Missing icons after installing gsynaptics" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133408
[02:10] <ubotu> New bug: #133409 in gnome-applets (main) "[gutsy]  font inconsistencies in "add to panel"" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133409
[02:15] <ubotu> New bug: #133410 in grub (main) "Grub crashes when I am manipulating partitions in Windows and then reboot to Linux" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133410
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #133411 in compiz (main) "Workspace issues" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133411
[02:40] <ubotu> New bug: #133412 in Ubuntu "It's not a bug actually. But... The pci.ids needs to be updated." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133412
[02:57] <HugLeo> Hi
[02:57] <HugLeo> I need generate a backtrace
[02:57] <HugLeo> I use the follow command:
[02:57] <HugLeo>  gdb /usr/bin/ooffice  2>&1 | tee gdb-ooimpress.txt
[02:58] <HugLeo> And get the error:
[02:58] <HugLeo> "/usr/bin/ooffice": not in executable format: File format not recognized
[02:59] <HugLeo> :(
[03:03] <HugLeo> Do everybody any help?
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #133414 in linux-source-2.6.20 (main) "Unable to run update" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133414
[03:14] <HugLeo> right now
[03:14] <HugLeo> But
[03:15] <HugLeo> This GDB was configured as "i486-linux-gnu"...
[03:15] <HugLeo> (no debugging symbols found)
[04:11] <ubotu> New bug: #133416 in kdebase (main) "Floppy does not appear on media:/ in Kubuntu 7.10" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133416
[04:11] <ubotu> New bug: #133417 in nautilus (main) "Need a way to tag files in Nautilus using Tracker" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133417
[04:11] <ubotu> New bug: #133418 in kubuntu-docs (main) "[Gutsy]  Missing links for top networking questions" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133418
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #133419 in Ubuntu "installer sees only one drive" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133419
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #133422 in Ubuntu "After update display is shifted to the left" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133422
[04:59] <HugLeo> I'm create a backtrace:
[04:59] <HugLeo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openoffice.org/+bug/133085
[04:59] <ubotu> Launchpad bug 133085 in openoffice.org "I've found a serious error to OpenOffice in ubuntu" [Undecided,In progress]
[05:00] <HugLeo> Is it correct?
[05:02] <HugLeo> *I've...
[05:55] <ubotu> New bug: #133423 in Ubuntu "sun-java5-bin: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 139" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133423
[06:31] <ubotu> New bug: #133425 in f-spot (main) "f-spot refuses to import, System.NullReferenceException: " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133425
[07:26] <ubotu> New bug: #133430 in Ubuntu "7.10 screen resolution rotation does not rotate wacom" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133430
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #133431 in kdebase (main) "Kwrite shouldn't try reading deleted file while saving it" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133431
[07:31] <ubotu> New bug: #133432 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crashed during manual partitioning" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133432
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #133433 in Ubuntu "Feisty Fawn fails to boot/install on new iMac" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133433
[08:05] <ubotu> New bug: #133434 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "I can't blacklist modules in gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133434
[08:23] <Altiric> Anyone happen to be around?
[08:30] <ubotu> New bug: #133436 in app-install-data-ubuntu (main) "package app-install-data 0.4.4 failed to install/upgrade: " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133436
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #133437 in Ubuntu "[needs-packaging]  blueMarine" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133437
[08:35] <ubotu> New bug: #133438 in sauerbraten (multiverse) "Fails to start and dumps garbish instead" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133438
[08:40] <ubotu> New bug: #133439 in Ubuntu "multiple ubuntu boots 7.10 installation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133439
[08:45] <ubotu> New bug: #133440 in Ubuntu "bug reporting tool - installation in 7.10" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133440
[09:20] <ubotu> New bug: #133441 in kubuntu-meta (main) "Improvement of reboot (wishlist)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133441
[11:41] <ubotu> New bug: #133448 in Ubuntu "The icon when updates are available is blurred" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133448
[11:46] <ubotu> New bug: #133450 in Ubuntu "[Gutsy]  nautilus-sendto Thunderbird temp dir" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133450
[11:51] <ubotu> New bug: #133451 in gnome-media (main) "sound recorder will not record" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133451
[12:00] <ubotu> New bug: #133452 in Ubuntu "gutsy amd64: flashplugin-nonfree not working" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133452
[12:15] <ubotu> New bug: #133453 in gaim (main) "gaim 2.0.0beta6 Segmentation fault (core dumped)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133453
[12:45] <ubotu> New bug: #133454 in base-installer (main) "[gutsy]  alternate install hangs cause of false manually configured internet connection" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133454
[12:50] <ubotu> New bug: #133455 in python-debian (universe) "Please sync python-debian (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133455
[12:55] <ubotu> New bug: #133456 in bzr-builddeb (universe) "Please sync bzr-builddeb (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133456
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #133457 in base-installer (main) "[gutsy]  alternate install monitor frequency too high" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133457
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #133458 in mythtv (multiverse) "cannot access mysql database" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133458
[01:05] <ubotu> New bug: #133459 in firefox (main) "Firefox Dom Inspector not compatible to <IP_ADDRESS>" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133459
[01:21] <ubotu> New bug: #133460 in Ubuntu "[Gutsy]  dhcp network fails at startup" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133460
[01:31] <ubotu> New bug: #133461 in Ubuntu "Xfburn says "Operation finished" even when it fails" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133461
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #133464 in Ubuntu "[Gutsy] Adobe Acrobat Reader isn`t working" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133464
[03:06] <ubotu> New bug: #133468 in compiz (main) "[gutsy]  only 3/4 of the screen is displayed properly, Dell Latitude D600" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133468
[03:12] <ubotu> New bug: #133465 in Ubuntu "Feisty : fails to shutdown when unplugging power while system shutting down " [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133465
[03:12] <ubotu> New bug: #133466 in linux-source-2.6.22 (main) "Updated firmware needed for newer DVB-T cards" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133466
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #133471 in edubuntu-meta (main) "failed load xorg on edubuntu7.04" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133471
[03:30] <ubotu> New bug: #133472 in kdeutils (main) "superkaramba doesn't start: python bug?" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133472
[03:35] <ubotu> New bug: #133474 in update-manager (main) "Error during update Gutsy Giggon 7.10" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133474
[03:46] <ubotu> New bug: #133475 in openoffice.org (main) "text instead of icons in OpenOffice.org (Ubuntu Gutsy)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133475
[03:46] <ubotu> New bug: #133476 in mysql-query-browser (universe) "mysql-query-browser crashed with SIGSEGV in MGTableBrowserList::refresh_sp_list()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133476
[03:56] <ubotu> New bug: #133477 in id3lib3.8.3 (main) "[Sync request]  Sync id3lib3.8.3 (3.8.3-7) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133477
[04:00] <ubotu> New bug: #133478 in kubuntu-meta (main) "Kubuntu package manager (wishlist)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133478
[04:01] <ubotu> New bug: #133479 in Ubuntu "Battery info uses wrong units" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133479
[04:05] <ubotu> New bug: #133481 in compiz (main) "Videoclips don't play with the Desktop Effects enabled" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133481
[04:10] <ubotu> New bug: #133482 in marble (universe) "Please update to latest version" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133482
[04:20] <ubotu> New bug: #133484 in openoffice.org-voikko (main) "Problems upgrading in gutsy current (as of 2007-08-19)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133484
[04:25] <ubotu> New bug: #133486 in Ubuntu "Wireless dies and requires total shutdown rt2x00 usb" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133486
[04:30] <ubotu> New bug: #133487 in gnome-panel (main) "Clock doesn't show "on top" when compiz enabled" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133487
[04:51] <ubotu> New bug: #133489 in djplay (universe) "Please sync djplay (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133489
[04:51] <ubotu> New bug: #133490 in libdjconsole (universe) "Please sync libdjconsole (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133490
[04:56] <ubotu> New bug: #133491 in hal (main) "feisty-backports: undefined symbol "libhal_ctx_set_global_interface_lock_acquired" in lshal" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133491
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #133492 in update-manager (main) "disk space calculation fails when symlinks used for directories like /var" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133492
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #133493 in software-properties (main) "new installation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133493
[05:00] <ubotu> New bug: #133494 in Ubuntu "update-manager" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133494
[05:15] <ubotu> New bug: #133495 in totem (main) "some codec crashes totem and gnash on ppc" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133495
[05:30] <ubotu> New bug: #133496 in democracyplayer (universe) "[gutsy]  democracyplayer doesn't play videos (package dependencies problem)" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133496
[05:51] <ubotu> New bug: #133500 in kbd (universe) "console-screen.kbd.sh does not honor setupcon presense and changes font during boot" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133500
[05:51] <ubotu> New bug: #133501 in pidgin (main) "gutsy tribe4: pidgin is no more show in the taskbar" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133501
[06:10] <ubotu> New bug: #133502 in Ubuntu "PlaneShift segmentation fault on Gutsy" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133502
[06:15] <ubotu> New bug: #133504 in net-tools (main) "At suspend recovery network is not reactivated ..." [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133504
[06:45] <ubotu> New bug: #133505 in Ubuntu "scsi error (medium error) when copying from usb stick" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133505
[06:55] <ubotu> New bug: #133507 in qpxtool (universe) "qpxtool binary does not exists in package" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133507
[07:05] <ubotu> New bug: #133509 in aspell-ro (universe) "aspell-ro unusable" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133509
[07:21] <ubotu> New bug: #133514 in debian-installer (main) "hd-media Found 0 package indexes in gutsy tribe 4" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133514
[07:21] <ubotu> New bug: #133515 in acpi-support (main) ""Wireless" button doesn't switch off/on wifi on IBM T40" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133515
[07:40] <ubotu> New bug: #133518 in adept (main) "Update Tool Crashed" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133518
[07:45] <ubotu> New bug: #133519 in Ubuntu "AVG antivirus updates" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133519
[07:50] <ubotu> New bug: #133520 in hal (main) "hal: Patch to auto-mount LUKS key-file encrypted volumes" [Undecided,Fix committed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133520
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #133521 in thunar-volman (universe) "[gutsy]  Please remove thunar-volman from the archive" [Medium,Confirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133521
[08:11] <ubotu> New bug: #133522 in rhythmbox (main) "[gutsy]  rhythmbox doesn't resize again from party mode while using compiz" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133522
[10:40] <ubotu> New bug: #133264 in Ubuntu "Error Message Synaptic Package Manager" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133264
[10:55] <ubotu> New bug: #133541 in gnome-control-center (main) "Gutsy: expand window to full height now goes to far in GNOME" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133541
[11:00] <ubotu> New bug: #133542 in lyx (universe) "Gutsy: lyx cannot by default export to PDF anymore, under Ubuntu installation" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133542
[11:05] <ubotu> New bug: #133543 in evince (main) "Gutsy: evince 0.9.3 fails to "save a copy" of PDF, without warning or error" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133543
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #133545 in gdebi (main) "gdebi-kde crashed with TypeError: invalid result type from GDebiKDEInstall.close()" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133545
[11:21] <ubotu> New bug: #133546 in gftp (main) "gftp 2.0.18 crashes with core dump when new FTP connection times out" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133546
[11:40] <ubotu> New bug: #133549 in gnome-panel (main) "when install p7-zip or ace it wil not appear in the menu" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133549
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #133551 in unattended-upgrades (main) "Config option to enable debug logging" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133551
[11:55] <ubotu> New bug: #133552 in apt (main) "Config option to enable debug logging in unattended-upgrade" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133552
[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #133554 in amarok (main) "Rebuilding collection eats up too much memory" [Undecided,New]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/133554


[01:01] <infinity> sforshee: Your wireless drivers suck.
[01:04] <infinity> sforshee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6012393/
[01:04] <infinity> sforshee: ^-- The result of trying to turn on wireless via my hardware rfkill.  Rebooting "fixed" it.
[01:19] <sforshee> infinity: the log plainly says it's a hardware error, so I'm blameless :-P
[01:19] <infinity> sforshee: Uh huh.  If you say so, Freshest.
[01:22] <sforshee> infinity: which kernel is that?
[01:22] <infinity> sforshee: 3.11.0-3.7
[01:24] <infinity> sforshee: I'm not really in a convenient place to debug/diagnose right now, but it seems that booting with wireless enabled works, resuming with it disabled, then enabling it causes the above.  Untested if booting disabled and enabling does the same, but probably.
[01:32] <sforshee> infinity: okay, I'll try to reproduce later. I think I only have one machine with a hard rfkill switch, and it happens to be the machine I'm using to do stuff right now.
[01:33] <infinity> sforshee: Bonus points if it happens to be an IvyBridge thinkpad (x220, t420, etc)
[01:33] <infinity> s/Ivy/Sandy/
[01:33] <mwhudson> i have an x220 here
[01:33] <mwhudson> otoh, not saucy
[01:34] <sforshee> infinity: it's a thinkpad, but not sandybridge. Arrendale.
[01:35] <infinity> sforshee: Alright, when I'm not squirting blood into a baggie at the Red Cross, I'll see if I can come up with more useful debugging info.  But if you can reproduce, great.
[02:07]  * Sarvatt was expecting brcmsmac fail there since sforshee got pinged, but instead an actual hardware error with "magic" intel firmware..
[02:13] <Sarvatt> hrm can't reproduce it on an x1 carbon with 6205 wifi, guess you need an old 6200 or 6300 using firmware version: <IP_ADDRESS> build 25532
[02:16] <infinity> Sarvatt: I just blame sforshee for *all* my wireless issues.  He did this to himself at one point by being silly enough to actually solicit me for wireless bugs.
[02:16] <Sarvatt> sforshee: your ilk might hit it, most snb shipped with 6205...
[02:17] <Sarvatt> infinity: is that 6300?
[02:17] <infinity> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Ultimate-N 6300 (rev 3e)
[02:17] <infinity> (Yes)
[02:17] <Sarvatt> yeah, they went to a new gen of wifi cards for 6200 series for snb but kept older 6300 around
[02:18] <Sarvatt> but if he has an ilk with 6200 it probably uses the same firmware as that
[02:18] <Sarvatt> obviously a firmware bug, not anything he can fix though :P just need to report it to intel
[02:20] <infinity> I'm less convinced on the "obviously a firmware bug" unless it was recently revved.
[02:20] <infinity> But I can bisect that later too.
[02:21] <Sarvatt> not sure if that was, but some intel wifi firmware did get revved in 3.11, the ones shipping in haswell systems can't use firmware from 3.10 on 3.11 because the api changed
[02:23] <Sarvatt> https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/iwlwifi/iwlwifi-next.git/commit/?id=a2d0909a687b4d250cc2b7481072e361678745ba just 7260/3160, nevermind
[02:30] <Sarvatt> going to assume they broke old cards to make the new ones work right, thats how intel works :) see 4965 and older intel wifi cards having to disable 802.11n after 2.6.35 kernels aka https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/630748
[02:30] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 630748 in module-init-tools (Ubuntu Natty) "iwlagn degrades quickly during normal wifi session" [High,Fix released]
[06:57]  * smb waits for coffee to kick in
[07:01]  * amitk thinks about how effective a coffee bath might be...
[07:03] <smb> Probably depends on how hot the coffee is... but then effective in doing what? :)
[07:04] <amitk> smb: subcutaneous nicotine absorption
[07:07] <smb> amitk, Could it be that you listen to too many urban legends? :)
[07:08] <amitk> :)
[10:52] <rbasak> Do we have an lpae -generic kernel for ARM yet?
[10:52] <rbasak> I'm not sure what naming scheme we settled on in the end. Was it -generic-nonlpae and -generic, or -generic-lpae and -generic?
[12:30]  * henrix -> lunch
[13:48] <rtg> kamal, I've assigned you bug #1215411
[13:48] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1215411 in linux (Ubuntu Saucy) "libcpupower.so is not installed from linux-tools (saucy)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1215411
[14:51] <rtg> jsalisbury, bug #1215051 and bug #1215269 appear to be straightforward Raring regressions. Have you seen them yet this morning ?
[14:51] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1215051 in linux (Ubuntu) "KVM/QEMU guest bridged network loss on kernels 3.8.0-27, and 29" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1215051
[14:51] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1215269 in linux (Ubuntu) "Unable to boot after kenel update (3.8.0-29)." [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1215269
[14:54] <jsalisbury> rtg, I'll look at them now
[15:02] <kamal> rtg, ok, but I'm not sure how we'll address the libcpupower.so problem ...  I omitted the libcpupower.so symlink on purpose:  I think that including it would break the ability to have multiple simultaneous  linux-tools-3.8.0-{nn} packages installed
[15:02] <kamal> rtg, I'll discuss with apw
[15:03] <kamal> rtg, the two raring regressions jsalisbury is looking scare me too
[15:03] <kamal> *looking at
[15:03] <bjf> ogasawara, is .3 going to be released today?
[15:03] <rtg> kamal, I didn't really understand what he was complaining about in the bug, which is why I dumped it in your lap
[15:04] <ogasawara> bjf: I'd assume so, infinity I think it in charge of pulling the trigger
[15:04] <kamal> rtg, ok, I _do_ understand it  :-)   I just don't know how I'll fix it.   my lap is a good place for the bug.
[15:04] <ogasawara> bjf:  I have not heard officially that i's not
[15:06] <jsalisbury> kamal, rtg, 1215051 appears to have been introduced in 3.8.0-27, but 1215269 seems to have been introduced in 3.8.28 or 29.  I'll bisect both of them.
[15:06] <kamal> jsalisbury, excellent, thanks man.
[15:07] <jsalisbury> kamal, np
[15:09] <xnox> So on precise, xubuntu & kubuntu had miss-matched and out of date kernels. I've bumped the seeds, can anyone tell me what else needs to happen such that next cd respin gets matching new kernel & udebs & debs?
[15:09] <xnox> infinity: apw` ^
[15:38] <federico_> Hi. since kernel 3.8.0-29.42 I'm experiencing total freezes at random times. Once or twice a day. No issues with previous kernels. I had freezes in two different machines.
[15:41] <rtg> federico_, kamal and jsalisbury are currently pursuing regressions in 3.8 stable. you should start a new bug using 'ubuntu-bug linux'
[15:43] <federico_> rtg: I booted 3.8.0-27 now, should I reboot on the other version to file the bug?
[15:43] <rtg> federico_, yeah, if it will stay up long enough
[16:13] <henrix> jsalisbury: bug #1214852 may actually be a dup of bug #1215155 as the user refers to an external hd (i'm assuming usb)
[16:13] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1214852 in linux (Ubuntu) "encrypted drive can't boot" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1214852
[16:13] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 1215155 in linux (Ubuntu) "regression in linux-image-3.8.0-29-generic: ipod shuffle 2g does not mount any more" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1215155
[16:14] <henrix> jsalisbury: the installation kernel is -19, which doesn't contain the issue; then, after the upgrade, it doesn't boot. so... it *could* be the same bug
[16:15] <jsalisbury> henrix, ack
[16:15] <jsalisbury> henrix, is the fix you have for 1215155 in the 30.43 kernel?
[16:16] <jsalisbury> henrix, doh, nevermind, I just read your email
[16:16] <henrix> jsalisbury: no, it is not. but i have a test kernel (let me get you the link)
[16:16] <henrix> jsalisbury: :)
[16:16] <henrix> jsalisbury: http://people.canonical.com/~henrix/lp1215155/
[16:17] <henrix> jsalisbury: ^^ this is the test kernel containing the fix
[16:17] <jsalisbury> henrix, great.  I'll ask the bug reporter in 1214852 to test your kernel before all the other testing requests
[16:17] <henrix> jsalisbury: thanks
[17:06] <infinity> xnox: What do you mean by "you bumped the seeds"?
[17:06] <infinity> xnox: I see no seed changes and, in fact, they should have been correct for precise.
[17:07] <infinity> xnox: Oh, ffs.  They use their own installer seed.  I missed that. :/
[17:07] <xnox> that.
[17:08] <infinity> What a mess.  We need to fix that.
[17:08] <xnox> infinity: one of them is using pae, the other one generic. and neither use enablement kernels.
[17:08] <infinity> xnox: Thanks for cleaning that up.
[17:08] <xnox> infinity: no problem. it was guess work for me. I kind of new it was done before, and I went by "bzr log -p"
[17:30]  * rtg -> lunch
[20:05]  * rtg -> EOD
[21:45] <xtofury> ok I finally got my 8" touchscreen working :)  thanks to whomever posted that apk of tscalibrate that actually works proper.
[21:46] <xtofury>  there is one issue that's popped up.  There are no FTDI drivers in makemenu :(
[21:46] <xtofury> anybody deal with this one yet?
[21:47] <xtofury> err menuconfig meant


[16:02] <cjohnston> daker: any chance you have some time to help us work on summit today? there is an event in about 2 weeks that we need to finish working on some stuff


[04:34] <Mirv> greyback's qt5 prob (unity gets deinstalled) is indeed because of the dependency chain, but just more complex ie. bugs need to be fixed in other packages first
[08:26] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: you back'
[08:26] <tsdgeos> ?
[08:29] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: hi
[08:30] <mzanetti> yes, I am
[08:36] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: any chance we can do that "detach CI vm thing" so i can run the qmltests faster? Trying to get more info to make them work more reliable
[08:38] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: sure
[08:43] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: which one do you need?
[08:43] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: qmluitests
[08:47] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: ps-trusty-server-amd64-3
[08:50] <Cimi> hi guys
[09:05] <tsdgeos> Cimi: ho
[09:14] <tsdgeos> so
[09:14] <tsdgeos> this is interesting
[09:14] <tsdgeos> any idea why this may happen
[09:14] <tsdgeos> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/unity-phablet-qmluitests-trusty/797/consoleFull
[09:14] <tsdgeos> search for "qmltestrunner::GenericScopeView::test_filter_expand_expand() A 0 [object Object]"
[09:14] <tsdgeos> and see how a few lines up
[09:14] <tsdgeos> it was
[09:14] <tsdgeos> "qmltestrunner::GenericScopeView::test_filter_expand_expand() A Header_QMLTYPE_11_QML_52(0x1e3f020, "dashSectionHeader0")"
[09:14] <tsdgeos> but the variable does not get reassigned
[09:14] <tsdgeos> so it's just that the thing is disappearing?
[09:16] <tsdgeos> yep it is
[09:22] <tsdgeos> i think i have a fix for the expand_expand test!
[09:23] <tsdgeos> which is not the one i wanted to fix originally
[09:23] <tsdgeos> but oh well :D
[09:30] <tsdgeos> Saviq: mzanetti: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/expand_expand_fix/+merge/200642
[09:31] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: what exactly does this fix?
[09:31] <mzanetti> un unstable test?
[09:31] <mzanetti> ah right
[09:31] <tsdgeos> not the one i wanted to originally fix
[09:31] <tsdgeos> but i can't get the other to fail ^_^
[09:32] <mzanetti> :D
[09:32] <tsdgeos> busy looping now to see how much time the thing runs without failing
[09:32] <tsdgeos> oh
[09:32] <tsdgeos> i'm running the wrong unittest
[09:32] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: do we really need the tryCompareFunction? Looks a bit like a regular tryCompare would be enough
[09:33] <tsdgeos> that'd make sense
[09:33] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: the thing is that the header0 object goes away
[09:33] <mzanetti> ah ok
[09:33] <tsdgeos> at some point
[09:33] <tsdgeos> i need to requery it
[09:33] <tsdgeos> no idea why tbh
[09:33] <tsdgeos> otherwise you end up asking for an x of an object that "is not there" anymore
[09:34]  * tsdgeos runs the correct unittest
[09:40] <mhr3> Saviq, ok to talk about previews and shell tomorrow?
[10:15] <Mirv> greyback: hi! regarding your unity/qt5.2 problem, I wrote about it before Christmas, when I identified at least hud needing a recompile, and hud requires gsettings-qt to be fixed (bug #1257322) - libqtdbustest was already fixed, another pre-requirement
[10:16] <Mirv> greyback: so there's a rather long chain of various dependencies that need to be fixed, about which I also wrote
[10:16] <greyback> Mirv: oh I missed that message, apologies. Ok, I will be patient, thanks
[10:17] <Mirv> greyback: webbrowser-app needs UI Toolkit, which has some segfault in turn
[10:17] <Mirv> but it's good to know that's also required for unity to not be removed when upgrading
[10:18] <Mirv> I'll update the pad accordingly
[10:20] <Saviq> mhr3, yup
[10:21] <mhr3> Saviq, time ok, can move if you'd prefer
[10:21] <mhr3> ?
[10:21] <Saviq> mhr3, fine
[10:21] <mhr3> k
[10:56] <tsdgeos> Saviq: the Dash::test_show_scope_on_load failure is very weird
[10:56] <tsdgeos> it is the listview that is actually not creating the delegate in some cases
[10:57] <Saviq> tsdgeos, hmm, IIRC we have cacheBuffer MAX_INT there effectively?
[10:57] <tsdgeos> yep
[10:57] <tsdgeos> i mean
[10:57] <tsdgeos> it works
[10:57] <tsdgeos> most of the time
[10:57] <tsdgeos> but sometimes not
[10:57] <tsdgeos> which is weird
[10:57] <tsdgeos> because i have never seen the phone just loading 2 of the 4 screens
[10:59] <tsdgeos> i'm wondering if again we're just dealing with the evil scene graph loop from 5.0 failing to "do stuff"
[11:03] <Saviq> tsdgeos, since you have the VM
[11:03] <Saviq> tsdgeos, can you try and upgrade it to 5.2 and see if you can reproduce the issue?
[11:05] <tsdgeos> makes sense
[11:05] <tsdgeos> let me see
[11:11] <Saviq> mzanetti, top-approve expand_expand fix?
[11:12] <mzanetti> Saviq: done. was waiting for jenkins to run through and forgot
[11:12] <Saviq> mzanetti, cheers
[11:23] <tsdgeos> Saviq: i've done something else before the 5.2.0 update
[11:23] <tsdgeos> i've exported QML_BAD_GUI_RENDER_LOOP
[11:23] <Saviq> tsdgeos, righ
[11:23] <Saviq> t
[11:23] <tsdgeos> that runs the non threaded render loop
[11:23] <tsdgeos> and i'm running the tests in a loop
[11:24] <tsdgeos> let's give it some time to see if it fails or not
[11:24] <tsdgeos> and then
[11:24] <tsdgeos> do the 5.2.0 anyway
[11:24] <tsdgeos> since we don't want the non threaded thing
[11:26] <Saviq> tsdgeos, yup
[11:39] <tsdgeos> well, been running for 14 minutes
[11:39] <tsdgeos> so the non theraded loop makes it work
[11:39] <tsdgeos> let's see what 5.2.0 says
[12:31] <tsdgeos> Mirv: i can't install qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-ui-toolkit-plugin when using the ppa for 5.2
[12:31] <tsdgeos> it complains it wants libqt5core5 but the ppa provides libqt5core5a
[12:31] <tsdgeos> any idea?
[12:33] <tsdgeos> Saviq: ↑ you?
[12:33] <greyback> Mirv: I've a branch attached to https://bugs.launchpad.net/platform-api/+bug/1266674 to fix the ftbfs, works for me now. Just need a reviewer
[12:34] <greyback> tsdgeos: I think UITK has a crash bug with 5.2, so wasn't pushed to the PPA yet
[12:35] <tsdgeos> greyback: it is in the ppa
[12:35] <tsdgeos> or so apt-cache says
[12:35] <tsdgeos>      1:0.1.46+14.04.20131129-0~873~ubuntu14.04.1+disabletests2 0
[12:35] <tsdgeos>         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/canonical-qt5-edgers/qt5-beta2/ubuntu/ trusty/main amd64 Packages
[12:35] <tsdgeos> but it's pulling the wrong dependency :/
[12:36] <greyback> tsdgeos: ah I see. Ignore me :)
[12:37] <greyback> but based on the date, I might guess that package was made before the lib name changed to libqt5core5a
[12:38] <tsdgeos> seems
[12:52] <Mirv> tsdgeos: UI toolkit has a failing test when compiled, so it hasn't rebuilt yet. it's blocking continuing from there currently together with gsettings-qt.
[12:52] <tsdgeos> ok :(
[12:52] <Mirv> tsdgeos: see http://pad.ubuntu.com/qt52-dependencies for the approximate dependency chain
[12:52] <Mirv> plus bug links
[12:53] <Mirv> edits welcome to the pad
[13:13] <Cimi> greyback, tried running my carousel shader branch again locally on the nexus 10, it ends with "terminate called after throwing an instance of 'boost::exception_detail::clone_impl<boost::exception_detail::error_info_injector<std::runtime_error> >'
[13:13] <Cimi>   what():  could not activate surface with eglMakeCurrent"
[13:14] <greyback> Cimi: often happens when backlight turned off. Hit the power button and try again
[13:19] <Saviq> tsdgeos, jenkins *really* doesn't want to merge the horizontal journal, it doesn't look like it's random any more...
[13:20] <Saviq> tsdgeos, QFATAL : qmltestrunner::Dash::test_dash_bar_set_index_connection(applications.scope) ASSERT: "modelIndex == m_asyncRequestedIndex" in file /tmp/buildd/unity8-7.84+14.04.20131220/plugins/DashViews/listviewwithpageheader.cpp, line 874
[13:25] <Mirv> greyback: I'm testing that platform-api branch building and approving after that
[13:25] <greyback> Mirv: ack
[13:28] <Cimi> greyback, ok, tested
[13:28] <Cimi> greyback, it's slower
[13:28] <Cimi> but it's already slow in the normal use case
[13:29] <Cimi> and this looks much better
[13:29] <greyback> Cimi: I would argue that smoother is more important than looks
[13:30] <greyback> Cimi: but let's have a third party make that call
[13:32] <Cimi> greyback, it's already bloody slow
[13:32] <Cimi> greyback, we might though want to keep this to test again when mir will be faster
[13:32] <greyback> Cimi: making it slower isn't improving the situation then :)
[13:32] <Cimi> greyback, so postpone the approve
[13:33] <Cimi> greyback, I can try again using layers in qml but I ended up doing shader because layers wasn't working
[13:33] <Cimi> there has been a regression though
[13:34] <Cimi> when you open the preview, you see the carousel zoom popping in and out
[13:34] <Cimi> I'll have a look later this afternoon, now off to the office + lunch
[13:35] <greyback> Cimi: I'm not up on the specifics, I just got worried when I saw you using a shader on a visually large ShaderEffectItem as that's expensive. Hopefully there's an alternative approach
[13:44] <Saviq> Cimi, layers are basically equal to using a shader in terms of GPU usage
[14:00] <tsdgeos> Saviq: right, somehow hadn't see it
[14:01] <tsdgeos> Saviq: thanks for the pointer
[14:01] <tsdgeos> dandrader: i should not have listened to you asking for the assert :D
[14:01] <tsdgeos> now i need to find out why it's asserting :D
[14:01] <dandrader> tsdgeos, :D
[14:02] <tsdgeos> Saviq: ok, so i'll leave the qml error now, knowing it does not happen with the non threaded scenegraph and we can't test 5.2 atm :/
[14:03] <Saviq> tsdgeos, +1
[14:11] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: ok, put the VM back into the pool i guess, we'll be back to it some other day
[14:11] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: tx a log!
[14:11] <tsdgeos> and a lot too!
[14:11] <tsdgeos> :D
[14:12] <mzanetti> :)
[14:12] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: done. thanks
[14:12] <tsdgeos> Mirv: fwiw i reported the gsettings-qt thing and is now fixed upstream, but i think it needs a string of fixes, so we're basically stuck waiting for 5.2.1 i'd say
[14:13] <tsdgeos> Mirv: if you have spare cycles you can try adding https://codereview.qt-project.org/#change,74547
[14:16] <kgunn> ricmm|sick: are we good for Cimi to put together the sidestage preview for design to play with ?
[14:16]  * kgunn think |sick can't be good
[14:17] <olli_> Cimi, re qmlscene, didn't work for me and qtcreator seems to heavy
[14:18] <greyback> kgunn: we have this list of bugs: http://pad.ubuntu.com/qP0HD1BUn4 that we're working through
[14:18] <olli_> kgunn, Saviq is qmlscene --desktop_file_hint=foo.desktop foo.qml how I should be able to launch an app from an adb shell, su - phablet?
[14:18] <olli_> assuming that the files are in the same dir
[14:19] <Saviq> olli_, you need a full path to the .desktop file
[14:19] <olli_> ah
[14:19] <olli_> that might explain the core dump
[14:19] <Saviq> olli_, yeah, it aborts 'cause it's rejected by unity-mir, due to not finding the .desktop file
[14:19] <kgunn> greyback: yeah, i know its not "finished"...but design needed to do some testing of some sort specifically for sidestage
[14:19] <kgunn> so plan was to just provide them a snapshot of our branche
[14:19] <kgunn> s
[14:20] <greyback> kgunn: then it's basically functional
[14:20] <ricmm> sorry, hadnt changed the name on freenode
[14:20]  * kgunn relieved ricmm didn't relapse
[14:21] <ricmm> kgunn: as it stands right now there arent any big functional bugs, except Mir screenshoting garbage sometimes
[14:21] <ricmm> mostly just flickers
[14:21] <olli_> Saviq, thx!
[14:21] <kgunn> ricmm: cool...we can live with that (known bug & someones working)
[14:21] <Saviq> olli_, cheers
[14:21] <ricmm> the flickers and related ones come from feb/march
[14:22] <ricmm> not necessarily new
[14:24] <ricmm> Cimi: so its just the three branches, onto a fresh N10
[14:24] <ricmm> prereqs have hit the archive
[14:24] <ricmm> greyback: lets land platform-api and qtubuntu branches asap, agree?
[14:24] <ricmm> greyback: set-dimensions ones
[14:24] <greyback> ricmm: +1
[14:25] <ricmm> can you do a review of each?
[14:25] <ricmm> although we've built and rebuilt a billion times
[14:26] <kgunn> greyback: ricmm ....so is what you're landing equivalent to "v2" or "v3" referred to in the sketchpad ?
[14:26] <greyback> ricmm: in progress...
[14:26] <ricmm> not landing anything unity-mir yet, will try to fix some of the flickers right now
[14:26] <greyback> just need to pop to post office, back in 5
[14:26] <ricmm> k np
[14:26] <ricmm> kgunn: but cimi can flash latest of the three branches and it will work
[14:27] <kgunn> thanks... ricmm can he just use your zip at people.canonical ?
[14:27] <kgunn> or he needs to rebuild ?
[14:28] <ricmm> its better if he builds his own
[14:28] <ricmm> with the latest image
[14:28] <ricmm> and creates his own deployable set of debs
[14:28] <ricmm> takes about 15 min on a n10
[14:28] <kgunn> Cimi: can you give sidestage a shot ? on tingting's manta
[14:28] <Cimi> kgunn, sure
[14:29] <Cimi> Saviq, if they are equal, I'd keep the shader then
[14:42] <greyback> Saviq: oh idiot, bad timing for me to run to shop, sorry I missed standup
[14:42] <Saviq> greyback, nw
[14:42] <Saviq> greyback, just add your things to the doc if you have anything new to report
[14:44] <tsdgeos> dandrader: ok, now i remember why the if is needed and why the assert has to go
[14:44] <tsdgeos> dandrader: or maybe you prefer me to reflow the code
[14:44] <tsdgeos> dandrader: let me explain
[14:45] <dednick> Saviq: i just flashed device, but cmake isnt installed with run_on_device anymore? :/
[14:45] <dandrader> tsdgeos, explain in a comment in the code, replacing that assert
[14:45] <Cimi> ricmm, to build my own debs, I simply run dpkg-buildpackage on the device?
[14:45] <tsdgeos> dandrader: ok
[14:46] <ricmm> Cimi: build them as you usually build debs
[14:46] <ricmm> first platform-api
[14:46] <ricmm> then qtubuntu and unity-mir
[14:46] <ricmm> whatever your preferred way is :)
[14:46] <Cimi> ricmm, don't know any other way :) but there might be 100 different in debian world :)
[14:48] <ricmm> dpkg-buildpackage it then
[14:48] <ricmm> install deps first, a simple build-dep should do it
[14:52] <Saviq> dednick, you probably have an old build-deps .deb on the device
[14:52] <Saviq> dednick, drop unity8-build-deps*deb from shell/builddir
[14:53] <tsdgeos> dandrader|lunch: comment added
[14:58] <greyback> ricmm: happy to top-approve your papi and qtubuntu
[15:00] <ricmm> go for it
[15:01] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: Saviq: you guys going to do https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/unity8/tabbar_dash ? Don't want it to get stale again, it's a bit of a pain to merge
[15:01] <Saviq> mzanetti, will you?
[15:01] <ricmm> greyback: you can probably approve both, qtubuntu will block on dep wait for 0.20 platform-api
[15:02] <ricmm> I think, I no longer know how these things work
[15:02] <ricmm> who pushes it and what not
[15:05] <Saviq> tsdgeos, http://ubuntuone.com/7dAW1FaKYID6PTx0DnealB - the chevron got cut off
[15:05] <tsdgeos> hmmm
[15:05] <tsdgeos> let me see
[15:06] <Cimi> Saviq, chevron == > ?
[15:06] <Saviq> Cimi, yeah
[15:06] <Cimi> Saviq, it's on the theme
[15:06] <Saviq> Cimi, probably the wrong word to use
[15:06] <Saviq> Cimi, that's tsdgeos's branch
[15:06] <Cimi> Saviq, tsdgeos I can point you to the right piece in the sdk
[15:06] <Saviq> Cimi, and it got cut off by the search input
[15:06] <Saviq> Cimi, it's there, overlaid
[15:07] <Cimi> Saviq, obviusly
[15:07] <dednick> Saviq: having dependency problems with unity8-build-deps
[15:07] <Cimi> Saviq, it's external to the button
[15:07] <tsdgeos> Cimi: i know where it is, i remade the whole code and then the sdk guys remade it all again
[15:07] <Saviq> Cimi, I think you misunderstand
[15:07] <Cimi> button == the title of the current lens
[15:07] <Cimi> ah ok
[15:07] <Saviq> Cimi, it uses a tab-like header in there
[15:07] <Cimi> ah ok, custom one
[15:07] <greyback> ricmm: probably, was just worried that jenkins ci might override the approval before papi landed. Have approved, let's see what happens
[15:08] <mzanetti> Saviq: tsdgeosack
[15:09] <tsdgeos> Saviq: actually i don't think it's overlaid, at most it's "underlaid"
[15:09] <Saviq> tsdgeos, it's overlaid by the text entry ;)
[15:09] <tsdgeos> Saviq: yep
[15:10] <tsdgeos> Saviq: i don't think there's a way to fix that
[15:10] <tsdgeos> Saviq: well we could do something like what the old code did, but someone told me it was a bad idea :D
[15:10]  * Saviq wonders who
[15:11] <Saviq> tsdgeos, aah wait
[15:11] <tsdgeos> Saviq: i.e. the old code took into account the width of the current label to decide if put the search bar on the right or not, which meant that depending on the title length you'd have it there or not
[15:11] <tsdgeos> which is pretty weird if you ask me
[15:11] <tsdgeos> now we're back to the simple "if it's wide enough it'll be there or not"
[15:11] <tsdgeos> don't remember who i talked to regarding this tbh
[15:12] <tsdgeos> may not be even in the company anymore :D
[15:12] <Saviq> tsdgeos, think we could find out the longest label and base on that?
[15:13] <Saviq> tsdgeos, or well... let's just say there needs to be at least 80 GU width?
[15:13] <Saviq> tsdgeos, all labels need to fit in 40GUs to be visible on the phone
[15:13] <Saviq> tsdgeos, and the search entry is 40GU wide
[15:13] <Saviq> tsdgeos, so if we say it only goes to the side when > 80GU
[15:14] <tsdgeos> that works
[15:14] <tsdgeos> probably 90
[15:14] <Saviq> tsdgeos, 80 is fine
[15:14] <tsdgeos> ok
[15:14] <tsdgeos> sure i think that's a saner decision
[15:14] <Saviq> tsdgeos, only other thing I thought of (which is not sane) would be to find out the longest label
[15:15] <Saviq> tsdgeos, so no, let's not
[15:15] <tsdgeos> updated to 80
[15:30] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: should the >80GU thing fix this? http://i.imgur.com/qxsMKRY.png
[15:31] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: no
[15:31] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: that's just unfortunate widths
[15:32] <tsdgeos> ah no
[15:32] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: could we fade it out so it doesn't look so cut off?
[15:32] <tsdgeos> or yes
[15:33] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: we could, but do we do that kind of fading anywhere?
[15:33] <mzanetti> fair point
[15:34] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: we do in the launcher
[15:34] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: with text?
[15:34] <mzanetti> sort of
[15:34] <mzanetti> the icons
[15:35] <mzanetti> if they don't fit they are are folded and faded out
[15:36] <tsdgeos> right
[15:36] <tsdgeos> but it's the whole icon
[15:37] <tsdgeos> in here we'd need some effect that applies to say, the last gu of the right hand side of the tabbar
[15:37] <mzanetti> yep
[15:37] <tsdgeos> something like the BB10 phone does and Saviq said it sucks :D
[15:38] <Saviq> ;D
[15:38] <mzanetti> that's just Saviq and BBX
[15:38] <mzanetti> anyways... I think we should ask jouni on this
[15:38]  * mzanetti continues with the review
[15:38] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: we can, it'd be something for the SDK probably i'd say
[15:39] <mzanetti> I tend to agree
[15:39] <Saviq> yup
[15:48] <Saviq> tsdgeos, FTR, I said it sucked because it was overused, IMO
[15:48] <tsdgeos> ok
[15:48] <tsdgeos> i still like it
[15:51] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: do you really need the dashContentListHolder ?
[15:52] <tsdgeos> yes?
[15:52] <tsdgeos> why wouldn't i?
[15:54] <ricmm> tsdgeos: ping
[15:54] <ricmm> re https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/platform-api/papi.rules.typo/+merge/182354 that saviq re-pinged me about the other day
[15:54] <ricmm> libplatform-api-headers is the right package to ship that on
[15:55] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: i may be able to refactor the code not to, but as it stands now, yes i need it, what's your problem with it?
[15:55] <tsdgeos> ricmm: ok, i'll put it in there
[15:55] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: sorry... got confused
[15:55] <mzanetti> all right
[16:16] <mterry> I'm must be going crazy; neither of my devices are turning on
[16:19] <tsdgeos> ricmm: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/platform-api/papi.rules.typo/+merge/182354 passed, you can now approve
[16:23] <Saviq> mterry, no, they're just completely discharged
[16:24] <Saviq> mterry, connect to a charger, leave them be for a half hour
[16:24] <mterry> Saviq, I figured that, but it's been a while
[16:24] <Saviq> mterry, sometimes they really take their time
[16:24] <Saviq> mterry, IIRC I've actually had more luck connecting to a PC
[16:24] <mterry> Saviq, maybe I just haven't waited long enough, yeah
[16:24] <Saviq> mterry, /laptop
[16:24] <ricmm> mterry: use the n10 charger for all
[16:25] <ricmm> 2A juice makes the world a better place
[16:26] <ricmm> shit
[16:28] <olli_> how do I keep a column from rearanging it's cells when an image in a top cell (in a 2line column) goes to visible:false
[16:30] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: made a few more small comments
[16:30] <mzanetti> olli_: put the Image inside an Item
[16:30] <mzanetti> olli_: or just change it's opacity instead of visible: false
[16:44] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: answered your comments, tell me if i'm making any sense
[16:45] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: but isn't the pageHeader property in GenericScopeView always pointing to the one instance we have?
[16:47] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: ah yes
[16:48] <tsdgeos> the pageHeader property points to the single one
[16:48] <tsdgeos> not the pageHeader of ScopeListView inside GenericScopeView but the pageHeader of GenericScopeView
[16:48] <tsdgeos> what you would prefer me doing?
[16:49] <mzanetti> so I still think the two signals for headerHeight/SizeChanged are not needed
[16:49] <mzanetti> and it could be just set from within GenericScopeView just like all the rest
[16:50] <tsdgeos> ah
[16:50] <tsdgeos> i see what you mean
[16:50] <tsdgeos> sure
[16:50] <tsdgeos> can do that
[16:50] <mzanetti> please. the rest looks good to me
[16:54] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: also, please do another check for warnings. for example: "GenericScopeView.qml:284: TypeError: Cannot read property 'category' of null"
[16:55] <mzanetti> just noticed right now
[16:55] <ricmm> tsdgeos: the file needs to install to /usr/include/ubuntu/application/
[16:55] <ricmm> where it currently installs bsically, check on your local system where it lives
[16:55] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: is this introduced by this?
[16:55] <ricmm> if you just set the file it will install to the wrong loc
[16:55] <tsdgeos> ricmm: ok
[16:56] <tsdgeos> ricmm: honestly i'm going to abandon it and will let you guys fix it
[16:56] <tsdgeos> makes no sense you telling me what to do
[16:56] <tsdgeos> me doing it wrong
[16:56] <tsdgeos> and then you telling me what to do agai
[16:56] <ricmm> tsdgeos: change branch ownership to phablet-team
[16:56] <mzanetti> :)
[16:57] <mzanetti> seems it isnt
[16:58] <tsdgeos> ricmm: done
[16:58] <tsdgeos> ricmm: https://code.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/platform-api/papi.rules.typo
[17:00] <tsdgeos> mzanetti: pushed
[17:00] <ricmm> thanks
[17:01] <tsdgeos> whaaat
[17:01] <tsdgeos> the expand_expand test failed again ^_
[17:02] <mzanetti> meh
[17:02] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: :D wanna know why I told you the thing about the warnings?
[17:02] <mzanetti> file:///home/mzanetti/Development/reviews/tabbar_dash/qml/Dash/GenericScopeView.qml:306: TypeError: Cannot set property 'y' of null
[17:02] <mzanetti> file:///home/mzanetti/Development/reviews/tabbar_dash/qml/Dash/GenericScopeView.qml:302: TypeError: Cannot set property 'height' of null
[17:03] <mzanetti> because I did exactly the same change here and got those two
[17:03] <mzanetti> that tricked me into believing the others were your's too
[17:03] <tsdgeos> well i changed that
[17:04] <tsdgeos> maybe the tests needs adjusting?
[17:04] <mzanetti> no... its not the tests. happens if you run it
[17:05] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: your latest change just misses a if (scopeView.pageHeader)
[17:05] <olli_> mzanetti, will try, thx
[17:05] <tsdgeos> we don't really have one of those, but ok
[17:06] <mzanetti> tsdgeos: ?
[17:06] <mzanetti> yeah... actually a good question why this happens at all
[17:08] <tsdgeos> ahhhhh
[17:08] <tsdgeos> booo
[17:09] <mzanetti> not sure we're talking the same language today :D
[17:09] <tsdgeos> ok, test fixed
[17:09] <mzanetti> thanks
[17:09] <tsdgeos> the pageHeader has changed
[17:09] <tsdgeos> so the thing that was looking for the pageheader in the fix i made this morning was wrong for this one
[17:10] <tsdgeos> makes sense?
[17:12] <tsdgeos> and that said, i have taxes stuff to do
[17:12] <tsdgeos> so see you tomorrow
[17:27] <dednick> eh...wtf is going on with mir and unity8? installing mir 0.1.3 removes unity8... ?
[17:28] <dednick> all sorts of conflicts going on.
[17:36] <dednick> Saviq: ping
[17:36] <Saviq> dednick, pong
[17:37] <dednick> Saviq: hey, there seems to be a problem with latest mir and unity8. when doing build deps for unity8, it's trying to get mir 0.1.3, but that conflicts with current unity8 so it cant...
[17:38] <dednick> current installed ver of mir is 0.1.2, but it's trying to get 0.1.3 dev packages.
[17:40] <dednick> this is presumably only a problem on a clean device...
[17:40] <dednick> or if you do an apt upgrade.
[17:40] <dednick> s/upgrade/update
[17:44] <greyback> dednick: you may have to wait until this lands: https://code.launchpad.net/~ricmm/qtubuntu/papi-setdimensions/+merge/198498
[17:44] <greyback> dednick: oh wait no, please ignore
[17:44] <greyback> different issue, crossed brain wires
[17:45] <Saviq> dednick, hmm, there is no mir 0.1.3 in distro yet https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mir
[17:45] <Saviq> dednick, maybe you have daily-build PPA enabled?
[17:45] <Saviq> dednick, and unity-mir still only requires 0.1.2 http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mir-team/unity-mir/trunk/view/head:/debian/control
[17:46] <Saviq> dednick, the bump is only under review now https://code.launchpad.net/~kgunn72/unity-mir/mir-deb-bump-0.1.3/+merge/200349
[17:46] <dednick> ah. damn. it's that stupid writable image phablet-config command
[17:46] <Saviq> dednick, what's it do?
[17:46] <dednick> Saviq: phablet-config writable-image --ppa ppa:ubuntu-unity/daily-build
[17:47] <Saviq> dednick, ;)
[17:48] <Saviq> dednick, apt-cache policy is always helpful to see where stuff comes from
[17:51] <dednick> Saviq: thanks
[17:51] <dednick> wasted half a day...
[17:59]  * greyback eod
[21:33] <apsassin_> hi all i was hoping somebody could help me figure out how to remove app labels from desktop icons?
[22:54] <mterry_> So the edge demo got disabled somewhere down the line
[22:55] <mterry_> Saviq, was that intentional? ^
[23:00] <mterry_> kgunn, I thought the latest mir was supposed to have landed.  Do you know the ETA?
[23:24] <kgunn> mterry_: most likely tomorrow....
[23:24] <kgunn> mterry_: for once we were waiting on platform-api mp's to land first....
[23:24] <mterry_> kgunn, ok
[23:24] <kgunn> i know its actively being worked by Mirv
[23:24] <mterry_> thanks