[10:53] <spazm> after upgrading to 10.4 I get a lot of errors on my Torrentflux... I tried to re-install it from scratch but still get a lot of errors that look like this: http://pastie.org/953482
[10:53] <red2kic> waan: +1 for Transmission
[10:53] <Pirate_Hunter> erUSUL, thanks will do
[10:54] <bushbaby> obscurant1st: So the icon isn't coming up but there are updated available you mean?
[10:54] <slackjob> Thanks guys, going hunting seeing what I can come up with
[10:54] <obscurant1st> bushbaby, yeah, when i open the update manager update will be there, even now updates were there
[10:54] <waan> red2kic: I tried to get transmission running but it doesn't seem to go anywhere after configuring and restarting the daemon
[10:54] <obscurant1st> bushbaby, yes the icon is not coming!
[10:54] <obscurant1st> but updates are there
[10:55] <B4ckBOne> m-g: red2kic: im connected via ssh so preferably by changing a config file. And i searched the internet for it and did not find anything. Please just tell me the file i have to change. Thank you :-)
[10:55] <Pirate_Hunter> weird aptitude doesn't understand command autoremove... hmmm...?
[10:55] <bushbaby> obscurant1st: Have you checked the settings or preferences of update-manager? There may be a way to enable or disable it?
[10:55] <red2kic> waan: You need to configure /etc/transmission and probably /etc/default/trans*
[10:56] <red2kic> B4ckBOne: Change it in ~/.bashrc
[10:56] <obscurant1st> bushbaby, ok i havent changed anything over there, anyway let me check it.
[10:56] <zord> @pirate_Hunter: Can u autoremove in aptitude??? I thought it was only with apt-get!
[10:57] <obscurant1st> bushbaby, but when i upgraded to lucid from karmic, for the first few times that icon came
[10:57] <m-g> B4ckBOne: you mean, how many entries you can access with the cursor-up key? the people in #bash probably know.
[10:57] <B4ckBOne> thx red2kic. Do you by any chance remember the syntax?
[10:57] <waan> red2kic: Yeah I did that, checked rdp whitelist and port numbers etc. I installed transmission-cli daemon and common. When using the transmission-remote it fails to connect.
[10:57] <spazm> waan: what is the package-name for the Transmission web-client if you're only running a server?
[10:57] <xtaqqqqay> 没中文
[10:58] <Pirate_Hunter> zord, not sure thought both use the same if not similar commands, im still fairly new to aptitude but do find it strange that it has autoclean but not autoremove...
[10:58] <bushbaby> obscurant1st: You haven't changed anything since then?. i.e. it stopped for no reason??
[10:58] <xtaqqqqay> 中文频道在那
[10:58] <waan> spazm: transmission-daemon
[10:58] <DASPRiD> Но ваы
[10:58] <red2kic> B4ckBOne: HISTSIZE=<NUM>
[10:58] <Madpilot> xtaqqqqay, English here please
[10:58] <erUSUL> !cn | xtaqqqqay
[10:58] <B4ckBOne> red2kic: Thank you very much ;-)
[10:58] <red2kic> waan: Are you aware there are transmission channel?
[10:58] <obscurant1st> bushbaby, i havent changed anything since then, atleast for something like this, cos i liked the way it looked!
[10:58] <xtaqqqqay> ytyt
[10:58] <xtaqqqqay> 谢谢
[10:59] <zord> Pirate_Hunter: yeah I haven't used much of aptitude.
[10:59] <red2kic> waan: It probably failed because you never authorized a username in first place. ^_^
[10:59] <red2kic> B4ckBOne: You're welcome.
[11:00] <waan> red2kic: I assumed the username/pass aren't just used in the address but through the interface?
[11:00] <red2kic> waan: I should configure transmission again. I ended up not using it much because I find it easier to use it on my computer and then later, rsync to my HTPC machine when I'm done making pretty filenames and folder.jpg.
[11:00] <bushbaby> obscurant1st: That's odd.. I take it you've done updates if it's appeared before?
[11:00] <AnxiousNut> what would happen if started downloading an app using apt-get then removed the var lock and download another app using apt-get simultaneously?
[11:01] <abadabad00> my sound isn't working when I play flash videos (ehow, youtube). It works fine other than this issue...
[11:01] <Appl6> Pirate_Hunter: Hello again.  aptitude generally does autoremove automatically.
[11:01] <obscurant1st> bushbaby, i dont know. :(
[11:01] <abadabad00> my sound isn't working when I play flash videos (ehow, youtube). It works fine other than this issue... I'm running 10.04 64it
[11:01] <Appl6> Pirate_Hunter: Of course, it will prompt you before removing stuff, but it will offer to.
[11:01] <red2kic> waan: There also are ~/.config/transmission-daemon/settings.json
[11:02] <zord> AnxiousNut: Theoretically that should corrupt some things, but depending on what u r installing it might give ur system the red signal of death.
[11:02] <tsyj2007> hello everyone
[11:02] <zord> Pirate _Hunter: Yeah the prompt is always there.
[11:02] <bushbaby> obscurant1st: So update-manager has alerted you of updates before? the icon has appeared in the systray?
[11:02] <animesh1> PHP_ARUN: http://linux.dipin.info/2009/07/customise-or-remaster-ubuntu-904-jaunty.html
[11:03] <Pirate_Hunter> Appl6, hi how you doing? Hmmm true say noticed it I should pay attention maybe in a bit will make tea and apparently the purge function removed xorg and few other bits and bobs
[11:03] <tsyj2007> but ,I don't know how to use gtalk Group chat
[11:03] <PHP_Arun> thanks animesh1
[11:03] <obscurant1st> bushbaby, only a few times, like 2 or 3 times, i think. and that too appeard just after i upgraded to lucid.
[11:03] <obscurant1st> and yes it was on systray
[11:03] <AnxiousNut> zord, seems gonna try it one day :) probably before formatting :)
[11:04] <zord> Yeah, but i'll try it in a Virtual Machine in VMWare!
[11:04] <Appl6> Pirate_Hunter: Ouch.  Hard way to learn aptitude eh? =\
[11:04] <bushbaby> obscurant1st: Did you upgrade to the beta/RC or just the main release?
[11:04] <red2kic> Pirate_Hunter: You could "cat /var/log/apt/history.log | grep Install:" -- Make notes.
[11:04] <obscurant1st> bushbaby, main release!
[11:04] <slackjob> quit
[11:04] <Appl6> Pirate_Hunter: You might want to try the interface it gives you if you just run "sudo aptitude".  It will make it clearer what it's doing.
[11:04] <mouse> I never heard the end of the argument, are updates evil?
[11:05] <red2kic> mouse: No.
[11:05] <red2kic> mouse: Changes are always good for greater purposes. Old people often hate changes. :(
[11:05] <Pirate_Hunter> Appl6, it is still easier than apt-get in the sense of being more logical and neat do enjoy how search is in alphabetical order and not random and I have no need for the policy command to figure out if it is installed
[11:05] <animesh1>  PHP_ARUN: even that dint help ???
[11:05] <bushbaby> obscurant1st: Prehaps some of the package updates interfered with the update-manager icon appearing? or there was an update to update manager that removed the feature?
[11:06] <red2kic> mouse: But it does not mean changes are necessarily good too. As for upgrading or clean installation, just make your backup first.
[11:06] <zord> mouse:not exactly evil but sometimes they screw up the OS.
[11:06] <Appl6> Pirate_Hunter: You can use "aptitude show PACKAGE"; the second line is "State: " and it will say installed if it is.
[11:06] <PHP_Arun> animesh1 : i am already using the link u gave
[11:06] <PHP_Arun> hehehe
[11:06] <PHP_Arun> :)
[11:06] <PHP_Arun> so its helping me a lo
[11:06] <PHP_Arun> thanks
[11:06] <FloodBot4> PHP_Arun: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:06] <PHP_Arun> :)
[11:07] <waan> red2kic: I've tried to reinstall it but now there are no configuration files
[11:07] <Pirate_Hunter> red2kic, will do that soon instead of concentrating on three machines decided to just work on one at a time something a person can't multi-task
[11:07] <mouse> red2kic, And a backup would just be your personal files and /etc?
[11:07] <animesh1>  PHP_ARUN:  arun what do you wanna do btw
[11:07] <PHP_Arun> am a student
[11:07] <red2kic> waan: Try running it at least once. It should be generated.
[11:07] <PHP_Arun> hehe
[11:07] <PHP_Arun> and a serverside web dev
[11:07] <PHP_Arun> and a digital data forensic evidence analyst
[11:07] <PHP_Arun> :)
[11:07] <geraudk20001> hello
[11:08] <animesh1> oh grt..
[11:08] <red2kic> mouse: /home for Personal Files + Personal Configuration Files
[11:08] <animesh1> now why do you wanna remaster an os ...
[11:08] <red2kic> mouse: /etc for System-Wide Settings.
[11:08] <Pirate_Hunter> Appl6, but it aint needed unless I want more information on the package, aptitude search should tell me if it is installed or not since it indicates with the i, quite hard to believe I used to find the console version of it hard to use...
[11:08] <geraudk20001> how I do, for join #hacker?
[11:08] <red2kic> geraudk20001: /j #hacker
[11:09] <CyberLazi> geraudk: it's invite only. you can't join unless you're invited
[11:09] <waan> red2kic: No cigar, its using /var/lib/transmission/info/settings
[11:09] <geraudk20001> CyberLazi: ok
[11:10] <ubuntu> I'm looking for someone with a Polish
[11:10] <ubuntu> Is there anyone here from the Polish?
[11:10] <red2kic> waan: You check ~/.config/transmission ?
[11:10] <zord> waan: hws transmission's latest version. I used couple of older versions found them corrupting themselves and hell of instable. Now using KTorrent.
[11:10] <red2kic> !pl | ubuntu
[11:12] <waan> zord: Yeah I can't even get the thing installed so I guess it ends there
[11:12] <waan> red2kic: yeah thats empty
[11:12] <Pirate_Hunter> red2kic, that command is the same as dpkg -l, giving me all the packages I've got on my system instead of the most recent install no worries
[11:13] <red2kic> Pirate_Hunter: That command I gave you should only list the recent installations at bottom.
[11:13] <zord> waan: Damn. I used Deluge for couple of months but just a week ago, it stopped working and i'm not much into debugging..
[11:14] <zord> waan: BTW KTorrent looks good and very promising.
[11:14] <spazm> waan: but how do I enable the web-interface? :)
[11:15] <spazm> waan: or.. access it..
[11:15] <bushbaby> update-manager becomes unresponsive while doing distribution upgrade. Call trace says it's dying while trying to establish a connection. anyone else having this issue? (9.04->9.10 but also experienced from 9.a0->10.04LTS)
[11:15] <Pirate_Hunter> red,
[11:16] <waan> spazm: I'm just trying <IP_ADDRESS>:9091 as the doco says
[11:16] <Pirate_Hunter> red2kic, yeah found what you mean need to use less instead of cat for better view found things that should not be there
[11:16] <waan> spazm: remote access is enabled in the config
[11:16] <spazm> waan: yeah ok.. but I have it running on a diff machine.. that's why... opened the port to in the router but still can't access it..
[11:16] <red2kic> Pirate_Hunter: Great. Here you go. :)
[11:16] <haavaros> I get segfault when starting gpointing-device-settings, and the syslog states: "May 10 12:14:41 server kernel: [22701.565299] gpointing-devic[13792]: segfault at 0 ip 00ca1a0a sp bfd0280c error 4 in libc-2.10.1.so[c2f000+13e000]". What can I do to fix it? Reinstall didn't help
[11:17] <mouse> What would be the reason I can't force a version of a plymouth theme?
[11:17] <waan> spazm: does it even work on local?
[11:17] <waan> spazm: I cant even get mine to respond on localhost
[11:18] <spazm> waan: nope, works on neither :/
[11:18] <spazm> connection refused
[11:18] <geraudk20001> how can I do to be invited to the #hacker ?
[11:19] <red2kic> geraudk20001: You don't get invited. You hack #hacker to prove your 1337 skills.
[11:19] <Oer> geraudk20001, pay them ?
[11:19] <mouse> ^
[11:20] <red2kic> waan: Why can't you use TransmissionGUI?
[11:20] <spazm> waan: no luck in #transmission either?
[11:20] <geraudk20001> red2kic: ok
[11:20] <quyongwei> 我是
[11:20] <waan> spazm: just waiting for a response
[11:20] <waan> red2kic: This is on a server
[11:21] <brah-> freenode staff
[11:21] <brah-> own #hacker
[11:21] <spazm> okok
[11:21] <brah-> you should join #freenode and ask them to get in :D
[11:21] <brah-> the channel was made in 2004
[11:21] <quyongwei> 怎么都是外国人
[11:21] <Madpilot> !cn | quyongwei
[11:22] <red2kic> waan: Pure server or with some X (ie XBMC)?
[11:24] <waan> red2kic: not just for a bt client, everything else I do through the console
[11:24] <ukixx> any one now why is the totem movie player youtube plugin not working as ubunte say ..?
[11:25] <red2kic> waan: Okay. You can probably use GUI temporarily to set up username. :O
[11:25] <red2kic> waan: With forwarded X11.
[11:25] <red2kic> waan: Check if transmission-qt will take up lot of your packages.
[11:26] <ukixx> do any one mange totem youtube plugin work ?
[11:26] <red2kic> And from there, link ~/.config/transmission-daemon to... hmm, ~/.config/transmission-whatever?
[11:26] <ukixx> caz i donẗ plz help
[11:26] <40FAAXO1T> hi all
[11:26] <crashev> which package contains php-doc files in ubuntu 10.04 ?
[11:26] <40FAAXO1T> am looking for ati radeon 9200 drivers
[11:27] <GALC8H10N4O2> 40FAAXO1T: Lucid?
[11:27] <waan> red2kic: what gui? ncurses?
[11:27] <ukixx> This is bull no support ....
[11:27] <red2kic> waan: QT.  Just to get you through the configuration files. then purge it afterward.
[11:27] <waan> ukixx: What plugin did you install?
[11:28] <brah-> I have megabytes of logs just for this channel
[11:28] <brah-> you know what that means? you guys talk a lot
[11:28] <brah-> :)
[11:28] <ukixx> waan i did not install any ,,, simple the youtube is not working in side the totem
[11:29] <Galerien> brah-: So what :D Are you the kind of guy that start dating a girl after 5 MB of chat loggs?
[11:29] <ukixx> what do a need to mange that to work  waan .....
[11:29] <sivang> hi a;;
[11:29] <sivang> all
[11:29] <ubuntujenkins> lucid has been working fine untill i rebooted today, my laptop sound card is not detected/working. Neither my usb headphones or my sound card are being shown in the sound preference window. the relvant lshw part is http://paste.ubuntu.com/431023/ . anyone have any suggetions on how to fix it?
[11:30] <sivang> anybody knows what happend to python-gtkhtml2 ?
[11:30] <waan> ukixx: not sure, you could try installing mplayer
[11:30] <ukixx> i install every thing that the say in the totem web side u now gstrem so on ...
[11:30] <sivang> ubuntujenkins: I have video lockups with lucid
[11:30] <40FAAXO1T> hi am looking for  M9+ 5C63 [Radeon Mobility 9200 (AGP) drivers can anyone help
[11:30] <Galerien> 40FAAXO1T: http://www.amd.com/de/Pages/AMDHomePage.aspx
[11:30] <Galerien> "Treiber Download  "
[11:30] <ubuntujenkins> sivang: I have had lucid for ages and now it the sound doesn't work. its so random
[11:31] <waan> red2kic: Isn't QT a graphical package, I'm using ssh
[11:31] <ukixx> mplayer ? well that help if i want to wash youtube inside the totem ?
[11:32] <waan> ukixx: no, mplayer is a video player with support for alot of video files. It has embedded codecs.
[11:32] <RickyWh> does anyone know what comes installed default on these images?  http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/karmic/release/
[11:32] <strike_> une question? depuis que j'ai mis la dernière version d'ubuntu, je ne peux plus entendre les radios de la rtbf, mon ordi affiche qu'il manque des greffons (decodeur /text-uri)et il ne les trouve pas. Que faire?
[11:33] <Galerien> strike_: tu est sur un chan anglais la, essaye ubuntu-fr
[11:34] <strike_> ah oui y m semblait bien merci!
[11:34] <red2kic> waan: Yes. It is graphical. I'm asking you if it ask for many packages or just one. If just one, then you can bring graphical dialog right to your fingertips.
[11:34] <Galerien> strike_: et désolé, mais je n'y connais rien en codecs et tout
[11:34] <ukixx> waan i donẗ need any codecs my movies work i have i good codec but the bug i got is the totem youtube plugin..... do u now how to fix it
[11:35] <HoldenC> I installed lucid, but my system freezes randomly and my caps/scroll lock light blink repeatedly. Has anyone experienced this?
[11:35] <waan> ukixx: sorry no, try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=973828
[11:35] <ukixx> waan do u r totem youtube plugin work ?
[11:35] <Jerkman> hey,
[11:35] <erUSUL> !u
[11:36] <waan> red2kic: will that help with transmission somehow?
[11:36] <erUSUL> HoldenC: caps/scroll lock light blink repeatedly <<<< that's a kernel panic. review the logs /var/log/messages
[11:36] <ukixx> waan tnx man ..
[11:36] <HoldenC> erUSUL: problem is, I got nothing in my logs :( i checked messages, syslog, kernel.log...
[11:37] <red2kic> waan: If you're having problems with setting up configuration file, it can.
[11:37] <Jerkman> ive got a hard drive issue atm, I booted ubuntu yesterday for the first time in a couple months (pc has not been used for that time), and all was fine. Today however, it will no longer boot and worse than that - the 500GB drive does not get recognised in BIOS or on another machine via usb adaptor...
[11:37] <waan> ukixx: Whoops, thats for Apple users, but you might find something on the forums if you search youtube totem
[11:37] <erUSUL> HoldenC: well if the kernel panic is severe enough the kernel may be unable to writte anything to disk ...
[11:37] <erUSUL> HoldenC: have you checked hardware ? memtest =?
[11:38] <red2kic> Jerkman: Your HDD is dying? Possibility.
[11:38] <ukixx> i well ... but it well help if some help right now :)
[11:38] <40FAAXO1T> Galerien: fglrx ain't working for me the video card am using is old and does not respond well to the new driver releases
[11:38] <Jerkman> its not particularly old, and it spins up fine, makes a little reading sound... but keeps spinning with nothing displaying on the pc
[11:38] <HoldenC> erUSUL: I could try alt+sysrq+REISUB, but the problem happens randomly. I have done a full test on my hd with the utility provided by samsum and i'm gonna do a memtest
[11:39] <ukixx> i m not good at fixing bugs ...
[11:39] <waan> red2kic: the configuration actually worked first time I installed but since ive removed it they don't come back. I'll leep trying otherwise might have to try TorrentFlux
[11:39] <andrew_46> strike_: Can you give the url?
[11:39] <HoldenC> erUSUL: it seems like i'm not alone http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1470452 :(
[11:39] <ukixx> are write codes ... waan :)
[11:40] <asfjio> hello, can someone tell me how to disable the tracked process? i've tried to disable indexing and watching from System -> Preferences -> Search and indexing, also tried to remove it from the startup sessions (gnome-session-properties), and finaly i killed the process. but now it is running again. what i'm missing?
[11:40] <dupondje> I got an extremely annoying sound comming from my speakers. When I kill pulseaudio, it stops, when I start it again, it continues :(
[11:41] <dupondje> any idea what could be causing it ?
[11:41] <erUSUL> HoldenC: another thing you can do if you really want to track this dwon is set up netconsole (advanced kernel debugging yay!! ) http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/networking/netconsole.txt
[11:42] <waan> dupondje: I think I had some problems with pulseaudio and had to use alsa instead. Can't remember how I fixed it
[11:42] <waan> dupondje: I think I had problems with sound lag
[11:42] <ukixx> but i haf to say the totem youtube plugin is bad bad code and ubuntu should not have that on the main site or iso
[11:43] <RickyWh> is Karmic Koala the bleeding edge of ubuntu?
[11:43] <claes> how do i add a panel? like the top and bottom one
[11:43] <azareth> my ubuntu hand on loading "/scripts/init-bottom", but I could find that file/directory on the flash drive, can someone help me?
[11:43] <erUSUL> RickyWh: 10.04 lucid lynx
[11:43] <red2kic> !lucid | RickyWh
[11:43] <RickyWh> ok
[11:43] <RickyWh> ls
[11:44] <ukixx> pwd
[11:44] <ukixx> cd
[11:44] <HoldenC> erUSUL: thanks, this seems a bit advanced, i could study the documentation and try.
[11:44] <ukixx> dir
[11:44] <ukixx> ls -l
[11:44] <ukixx> :)
[11:45] <|Jerkman|> im back.. net dropped out
[11:45] <erUSUL> HoldenC: good luck
[11:45] <exploit100> how to set sudo user?
[11:46] <erUSUL> exploit100: just add the user to the admin group
[11:46] <Jerkman> so any thoughts on this HDD? could linux have corrupted it
[11:46] <TheBase> hello
[11:48] <exploit100> i am new
[11:48] <TheBase> I just updated to 10.04 LTS and my VPN is not working. It says it cannot start the VPN service. Anyone know what could be missing? (I'm using the NetworkManager)
[11:48] <exploit100> so where to go to set sudo user please?
[11:49] <seicherlbob> Can someone here tell me how to reload USB after suspend? The bugdescription says, that ehci_hcd needs to be reloaded, but thats no longer a module in lucid. Any suggestions?
[11:49] <exploit100> erUSUL, ?
[11:49] <|Jerkman|> ima be back again
[11:49] <attak4> ciao
[11:49] <attak4> !list
[11:49] <erUSUL> exploit100: if you want another user to be able to use sudo just like the first user you added do this « sudo adduser <username> admin » in a terminal
[11:50] <waan> How do you completely remove a package so it asks you all the configuration options next time its installed?
[11:50] <kjelle> hi. where would I go to find linux-headers for 2.6.18-028stab064?
[11:50] <|Jerkman|> anyone know iif ubuntu could stop the HDD from reading.
[11:50] <waan> Jerkman: unmount it?
[11:51] <brah-> Jerkman?
[11:51] <|Jerkman|> not what i mean
[11:51] <TuGa> hi everyon
[11:51] <slackjob> Anyone know where I can find the "pstoufr2cpca" program?
[11:51] <red2kic> slackjob: Is that even a real command? o.O
[11:51] <oCean_> waan: apt-get purge packagename
[11:51] <|Jerkman|> i mean, the drive no longer is recognised by anything (BIOS, windows via usb adaptor, live cd)... could ubuntu have done this
[11:52] <exploit100> erUSUL, currently i am logged as root, But i want to add sudo user
[11:52] <waan> oCean_: thanks
[11:52] <red2kic> |Jerkman|: Your hard drive may be dying. I mentioned it. Hard drives are the most instable computer parts. FYI.
[11:52] <exploit100> erUSUL, sudo adduser <username> admin . is it the command?
[11:52] <erUSUL> exploit100: replace <username> with the actual one
[11:52] <TuGa> i just upgrade to 10.04 and want to implement some kind of hd encrypt method what do you recomend?
[11:52] <slackjob> Well I have the ppd for my printer but it gives me an error saying I need to install this program
[11:52] <red2kic> TuGa: cryptsetup (and you'd have to do a installation from scratch).
[11:53] <erUSUL> exploit100: the user must exist
[11:53] <|Jerkman|> red2kic: yea, but it doesn't exhibit the usual dying signs such as clicking, or no sound at all..
[11:53] <|Jerkman|> red2kic: it spins up like usual, and even reads something
[11:54] <TuGa> thks red2kic
[11:54] <waan> oCean_: perfect that did the trick
[11:54] <oCean_> waan: ok, good to hear
[11:54] <waan> red2kic: I purged the package and reinstalled, it has all the config back properly now. I'll see if I can get any further with it
[11:55] <exploit100> erUSUL, "jony" is exist user . I want to give to this user sudo power. then please what will be command?
[11:56] <erUSUL> exploit100: « sudo adduser jony admin » in a terminal
[11:56] <red2kic> |Jerkman|: I would suggest for you to check your hard drive. I think it is smartmontools -- I don't know if one exists for GUI. (gnome-disk-utili*) seems to be closest?
[11:57] <exploit100> just 1 mini
[11:57] <Slartibart> How do I make my command line program start from a desktop icon? I tried a program starter with sh -ci "program and args", but no window pops up?
[11:57] <waan> red2kic: Ok its running but netstat shows it's not even listning on any port
[11:58]  * man8 hola , hi
[11:58] <user0815> hey. im installing ubuntu server edition on a 2TB hardware raid10. formatting ext4 is taking over an hour now. is this normal?
[11:59] <andruk> is there a good command for making my device discoverable?
[11:59] <ikonia> user0815: yes
[12:00] <andruk> is there a good command for making my device discoverable via bluetooth?
[12:00] <user0815> ikonia: how long can i expect it to take in total?
[12:00] <ikonia> user0815: depends on a lot of things, it will finish though
[12:00] <user0815> ikonia: ok then. thanks!
[12:01] <animesh1> andruk : cant u do it by network applet
[12:02] <red2kic> waan: I think it's in its own username 'transmission' which you need to change that.
[12:02] <hmw> Hooray! I got my Application Icons (e.g. FireFox icon in the top left of the window) back!
[12:04] <andruk> animesh1: im running an embedded system
[12:04] <Vigo> I forgot or just need to ask where that Custom Spin or RYO widget is or if one exits, i.e. Like a spin of Ubuntu that one could remove not used packages , printing, Bluetooth and other packages?
[12:05] <erUSUL> !minimal
[12:05] <Dede_one> i want to instal wine
[12:05] <Vigo> erUSUL: Thank you.
[12:06] <erUSUL> Dede_one: got to the software center
[12:06] <erUSUL> !software | Dede_one
[12:06] <Vigo> erUSUL: That was one of those palm to face moments, is early yet.
[12:06] <erUSUL> Vigo: :)
[12:07] <squiddy> hi, can i install ubuntu 64bit on a machine that only has 3GB's of RAM ?
[12:07] <om26er> !resetpanel
[12:08] <Oer> squiddy, yes
[12:08] <red2kic> squiddy: It does not care how much RAM you have as long as your machine are capable of 64-bit.
[12:09] <squiddy> 0er & red2kic: i do have 64bit proc. but then someone says to me that it is not a wise option to install a 64bit OS with only 3GB's of RAM
[12:09] <Vigo> erUSUL: I think I can use or set up 1rst Boot Device=USB in BIOS and do that, like a NetInstall or is the pushing it?
[12:11] <waan> red2kic: that could be
[12:11] <erUSUL> Vigo: do what ? minimal is an iso to be burned in a cd ...? netinstall is different thing entirelly afaics
[12:11] <erUSUL> !install | Vigo
[12:11] <red2kic> squiddy: To install 32bit or 64bit have nothing to do with RAM in first place. However, 32bit can't exceed more than 3GB RAM and to fix that because of physical address limitations, you would have to install PAE kernel or server kernel to fix it.
[12:11] <Vigo> erUSUL: Thank you.
[12:11] <minjoo> does anybody use emacs?
[12:12] <slackjob> quit: Thanks all, gonna keep working on it
[12:12] <ne7work> hello all,
[12:12] <squiddy> red2kic: thank you.
[12:12] <erUSUL> !anyone | minjoo
[12:12] <red2kic> squiddy: My laptop have 3GB Ram.  My computer have 2GB Ram. They both are 64bit.
[12:12] <red2kic> squiddy: No problem. Good luck.
[12:12] <ne7work> how to install graphic enviorment for example gnome under ubuntu server edition 10.04 ?
[12:12] <red2kic> waan: That could be what?
[12:13] <ne7work> !flash
[12:13] <red2kic> ne7work: ubuntu-desktop will have *everything* you need.
[12:13] <erUSUL> ne7work: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[12:13] <ne7work> only apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:13] <ne7work> what is aptitude
[12:13] <ripe> I'm trying to run Spotify under wine but for some reason it gives error "The file '/home/user/Lataukset/Spotify Installer.exe' is not marked as executable."
[12:13] <Radio-b> !aptitude
[12:13] <remoteCTRL> hi guys! i am in the process of installing lucid on a brandnew fujitsu s760 but i cant seem to turn on the wireless, the button does nothing... any ideas pls?
[12:14] <red2kic> ne7work: You should be using Ubuntu-Desktop LiveCD instead of using server CD.
[12:14] <Vigo> Now my head hurts, I make some coffee and read all this, thank you again erUSUL.
[12:14] <brah-> ripe
[12:14] <andruk> anybody know how to pair bluetooth devices with a command?
[12:14] <erUSUL> Vigo: no problem
[12:14] <brah-> you need to set it as executable
[12:14] <waan> red2kic: for some reason its using /var/lib/transmission-daemon/info/settings.jsol configuration
[12:14] <brah-> right click and check executable
[12:14] <Oer> ripe chmod +x /path/to/file
[12:14] <waan> red2kic: the file is locked to debian-transmission user:group
[12:14] <Radio-b> apt-get should do the same thing
[12:14] <red2kic> waan: Check /etc/default/transmission (and) /etc/transmission.  Change the username and original path which leads to the said line above.
[12:14] <zege> remoteCTRL: what wireless chip is built in your notebook?
[12:15] <ne7work> only sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop without aptitude?
[12:15] <brah-> really?
[12:15] <Radio-b> iorny
[12:15] <brah-> really guys? 5 floodbots?
[12:15] <zege> ne7work: u can use sudo aptitude install or apt-get install the effect is the same
[12:15] <jrib> brah-: nah, 3 bots but two with multiplicity
[12:16] <waan> red2kic: ahh sweet, thats where the config file setting is..
[12:16] <jrib> brah-: and then bot2 lagging behind the others
[12:17] <red2kic> waan: Right. Change it to your username (and /home/waan/.config).... you get the idea. Debian/Ubuntu like to have daemon to have their own users.
[12:17] <waan> red2kic: this package is very poorly setup
[12:17] <dabblego> why doesn't amarok have a menu option for visualizations?
[12:17] <SIGTERMer> hi, does anyone know where i can get the source for lsof?
[12:17] <waan> red2kic: you can't change the config folder to /etc/ either because you don't want torrent files going there. Have to use /home/username as you said
[12:17] <red2kic> waan: Daemons are not originally designed to serve single user. Think of any other daemons.
[12:17] <Slartibart> Is it possible to run sh from a desktop program starter icon and make the output show up in a (new) terminal window?
[12:18] <Dede_one> i want to install wine always error
[12:18] <Dede_one> i want to install wine but always error
[12:18] <waan> red2kic: true, but this could have better configuration
[12:18] <zege> Dede_one: what errors?
[12:18] <SIGTERMer> freshmeat requires some sort of password :(
[12:18] <Dede_one> i dont know
[12:18] <Dede_one> i cek again now
[12:19] <zege> Dede_one: synaptic must give you some more information. You must enable the advanced view or install it per terminal, so you get the errors displayed
[12:19] <red2kic> waan: There are cupsd, ssh, etc. System-wide config files resides in /etc. :)  It's just following the protocols. Yeah, but now you know and it'll be much easier from now on. ;)
[12:20] <red2kic> waan: Also, Transmissions have some amazing benchmarks compared to other torrents. :3
[12:20] <ne7work> and when i install ubunto-desktop how I can start graphic enviorment?
[12:20] <remoteCTRL> zege please dont lough but i just realized that this thingie has TWO buttons to turn wifi in, i activated the other one too now it works... *shrug*
[12:20] <red2kic> ne7work: It'll be started automatically when you reboot the computer.
[12:20] <SIGTERMer> never mind, got it
[12:20] <erUSUL> SIGTERMer: google ---> http://people.freebsd.org/~abe/
[12:20] <zege> ne7work: on terminal sudo gdm start or startx
[12:20] <waan> red2kic: Did you copy the config from /var/lib/transmission ?
[12:20] <ne7work> and how to stop graphic enviorment?
[12:20] <zege> remoteCTRL np
[12:20] <waan> red2kic: I have no config in home directory
[12:21] <SIGTERMer> thanks erUSUL :)
[12:21] <red2kic> waan: You can copy it, I suppose. I don't remember and I think I have original ~/.config/
[12:21] <zege> when started with startx just log off in the desktopsession, when started with sudo start gdm : sudo stop gdm
[12:22] <red2kic> waan: You should install transmission-qt (and in the terminal, link it to ~/.config/transmission-daemon).  It's a little hack but that works wonders for me.
[12:22] <zege> !gdm ne7work
[12:22] <ne7work> !gdm
[12:22] <red2kic> waan: That way you don't have to set up everything in the console. When you're done, just remove it afterward.
[12:22] <Radio-b> ne7work: startx
[12:22] <SIGTERMer> just a note though, http://people.freebsd.org/~abe/ still requires a password. I downloaded the source from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1346778
[12:22] <ne7work> !gdm?
[12:22] <AnxiousNut> what is the difference between firefox and swiftfox? they run the same config files, what is it that makes it faster?
[12:23] <Radio-b> ne7work: if the ubuntu-desktop installed correctly, that should be all you need
[12:23] <Dede_one> when i install wine >>: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:23] <erUSUL> AnxiousNut: compiller options afaik
[12:23] <stuarta> so why have my window minimize / maximize / close buttons moved from the right to the left of each window?
[12:23] <erUSUL> !controls | stuarta
[12:23] <lucid_lynx> is it possible to move a program from one X server to another on-the-fly?
[12:23] <AnxiousNut> erUSUL, what does that mean? and is it really faster?
[12:23] <erUSUL> lucid_lynx: do not think so
[12:23]  * stuarta wonders why people change the defaults and then hide the controls
[12:23] <Dede_one> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:23] <Dede_one>  ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[12:23] <Dede_one> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:24] <Dede_one> that my problem
[12:24] <erUSUL> AnxiousNut: never  used it so i dunno.
[12:24] <zege> Dede_one: try on the terminal sudo dpkg-reconfigure ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[12:24] <zege> Dede_one: and give me the complete output ;)
[12:24] <Radio-b> !pastebin
[12:25] <red2kic> stuarta: Because you should realize that Ubuntu are different. And not everything works just the same as Windows.
[12:25] <Dede_one> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: ttf-mscorefonts-installer is broken or not fully installed
[12:25] <Dede_one> that
[12:25] <stuarta> red2kic: hah. i've been using linux since 0.99r13
[12:25] <stuarta> i'm not a newbie at this
[12:26] <zege> Dede_one: thats not much information
[12:26] <zege> Dede_one: sudo apt-get install -f
[12:26] <Dede_one> sudo dpkg-reconfigure ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[12:26] <red2kic> stuarta: I didn't say you were. ;)
[12:26] <Dede_one> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: ttf-mscorefonts-installer is broken or not fully installed
[12:26] <waan> red2kic: I like working on problems until I can fix it, rather than going around it if that makes sense. It's fixed now by the way :)
[12:26] <stuarta> i finally moved to ubuntu because i got sick of debian not giving me firefox
[12:26] <Dede_one> in terminal show like that
[12:27] <waan> red2kic: Copied the entire /var/lib/ config to home using su and chown'd debian-transmission. Started daemon and bingo..
[12:27] <zege> Dede_one: sudo apt-get purge ttf-mscorefonts-install; sudo apt-get install ms-ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[12:27] <red2kic> waan: I like seeing things in my own name/group than debian-transmission. :(
[12:27] <red2kic> waan: (when I ls things)
[12:27] <om26er> how can I stop gnome-panels from reswaping?
[12:28] <Dede_one> Building dependency tree
[12:28] <Dede_one> Reading state information... Done
[12:28] <Dede_one> E: Couldn't find package ttf-mscorefonts-install
[12:28] <waan> red2kic: yeah I just put it back as that was how the original files were setup
[12:28] <dsga> hello, I need your help, I have abuntu 9.10The root partition is almost full, meanwhile I have another empty partition and a lot of room in home partition. how can i enlarge it?
[12:28] <zege> Dede_one: sorry, sudo apt-get purge ttf-mscorefonts-installer; sudo apt-get install ms-ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[12:29] <dengar> hi there: after I hibernate or switch off the wireless, I can't reconnect. It keeps saying 'device not ready'. I looked through the forums, but no help.... Anyone?
[12:29] <red2kic> dsga: Use a LiveCD to change /etc/fstab
[12:29] <waan> red2kic: only because thats the user the daemon uses
[12:29] <red2kic> !fstab | dsga
[12:29] <waan> red2kic: I could change the init.d script but its working fine now. THanks for your help too
[12:29] <Dede_one> udo apt-get install ms-ttf-mscorefonts-installer
[12:29] <dsga> i will restar with livecd but i will need your help thank you
[12:30] <Dede_one> Reading package lists... Done
[12:30] <Dede_one> Building dependency tree
[12:30] <Dede_one> Reading state information... Done
[12:30] <FloodBot3> Dede_one: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:30] <VuuuuM> hi
[12:30] <red2kic> waan: No problem. Great. :)
[12:30] <waan> red2kic: I have to say the Transmission interface is very nice indeed, glad I didn't settle on TorrentFlux
[12:30] <VuuuuM> ubuntu from turkýsh chanel ?
[12:30] <zege> !pastebin | Dede_one
[12:30] <VuuuuM> ubuntu from turkýsh chanel ?
[12:30] <erUSUL> !tr
[12:30] <yeryry> since updating to Lucid, I get corrupted graphics after resuming from hibernate..
[12:30] <VuuuuM> tmm soal
[12:30] <Dede_one> ok
[12:30] <red2kic> waan: Yeah, there are minor setbacks and you end up installing one or two packages instead of handful. It's nice and simple. Just grab what you need and get out.
[12:31] <Vigo> dengar: I did see something on that,
[12:31] <om26er> how can I stop gnome panels from autoreswn after manually killing... anyone?
[12:32] <zege> om26er: delete it?
[12:32] <om26er> zege, can't
[12:32] <zege> om26er: mopm
[12:32] <Vigo> dengar: I cannot recall what the fix is, but it is fixed now, or can be with a bit of coding.
[12:32] <zege> om26er: mom
[12:33] <Stereocaulon> om26er, Do you have root on your box?
[12:33] <red2kic> om26er: I don't think you can kill them, but I'm not 100% confident on that answer since gnome-panel is part of Gnome. Meanwhile, you could hide them as an alternative solution.
[12:33] <om26er> Stereocaulon, sudo su will make it root wouldn't it?
[12:34] <uncannywhizz> om26er, i think any two will do the trick; that is su or sudo
[12:34] <zege> om26er: yes
[12:34] <uncannywhizz> om26er,  i think sudo is just for a command and then it goes back to your normal account.
[12:34] <Stereocaulon> om26er, That's right. As a quick fix, you could chmod the application gnome-panels so that it cannot start anymore
[12:35] <zege> om26er: try pkill gnome-panel
[12:35] <Stereocaulon> zege, won't work, will immediately respawn after that
[12:35] <uncannywhizz> om26er, is it a process? i believe kill -9 pid will work fine as well.
[12:35] <dengar> Vigo: thanks!
[12:36] <erUSUL> !rootshell | om26er
[12:36] <Vigo> dengar: You are welcome, it is on Launchpad and other places.
[12:36] <waan> red2kic: Do you know how to place an encrypted password in the config?
[12:36] <dengar> Vigo: Link?
[12:36] <red2kic> Stereocaulon, om26er: Wouldn't it be easier to rename /usr/bin/gnome-panel to /usr/bin/gnome-panel-bak ?
[12:36] <dengar> Or any idea what to look for?
[12:37] <Stereocaulon> red2kic, That would also work, yes.
[12:37] <dengar> Because simply looking for 'Device Not Ready' keeps referring to usage of NDISWRAPPER and that sort of stuff
[12:37] <om26er> red2kic, trying your idea now
[12:37] <dengar> Don't need that really, cause the card works!
[12:37] <dengar> Unless it stops and then you can't get it on anymore
[12:38] <Stereocaulon> om26er, After you have renamed it, you still need a kill, but at least it won't respawn that way
[12:38] <shaullx> any program that can add effects when i use a webcam?
[12:38] <shaullx> i found few for windows but not for linux
[12:38] <red2kic> waan: Not really. I'll tell you what I did in my time. Install transmission-qt, link ~/.config/transmission-qt to the daemon config. Configure your configuration using GUI then when you're done, just purge transmission-qt or leave it around for future configuration. It won't take lot of space.
[12:38] <om26er> red2kic, worked
[12:38] <jacekowski> mplayer could to the trick
[12:38] <jacekowski> with some trickery
[12:39] <red2kic> om26er: Good. :D
[12:39] <zege> om26er: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=405721
[12:39] <blorg> hey, my windows are shown twice.. like a shadow ... and its not a visual effect nor a monitor problem. someone a suggestion ?
[12:39] <shaullx> anyone?
[12:40] <Vigo> dengar: looking now....
[12:40] <zniavre> !wacom
[12:40] <zege> shaullx: cheese
[12:41] <alpha> I have a strange problem. I have ubuntu 9.10 and I am for some reason not able to enter the site arxiv.org. I can not either enter www.arxiv.org but for some reason I am able to enter aps.arxiv.org. This is browser independent and I have not blocked the site
[12:41] <waan> red2kic: Ok i guess I can give that a shot, but I don't want to kill it now its working
[12:41] <jrib> alpha: what happens when you try?
[12:41] <red2kic> waan: Sure.
[12:42] <alpha> jrib: Nothing, it keeps loading for ever (actually, it stops after a while and tells me that it could not connect t the site)
[12:42] <waan> red2kic: meh i'll try it anyway
[12:42] <Stereocaulon> alpha, I run 9.10 as well and can visit that site without any problems
[12:42] <Vigo> dengar: Are a bunch of them: here is one:> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=320282
[12:42] <jrib> alpha: what does "host arxiv.org" return?
[12:43] <waan> red2kic: ok how do you run it?
[12:43] <shaullx> zege cheese doesn't apply effects when i use programs like skype
[12:43] <alpha> jrib: http://pastebin.com/XQwfQMkt
[12:44] <red2kic> waan: Gotta do link first. Go to ~/.config/ and pastebin it.
[12:44] <jdv> Hi I have a live cd 10.04 and it is asking for a username and password. Leaving these blank returns an authentication error. What is the correct pass?
[12:44] <jrib> alpha: and <IP_ADDRESS> in your browser does the same?
[12:44] <red2kic> waan: You're looking for two folder -- transmission-daemon and transmission-qt. Something like that.
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> jdv:  thats weird.. try 'ubuntu' and  just hit return for the password
[12:44] <zege> shaullx:  ah, ok, i didn't know u want that
[12:44] <jdv> Tried that Dr_Willis, doesnt work
[12:44] <Galerien> jdv "root" ?
[12:45] <waan> red2kic: I have transmission-daemon, where all my config is
[12:45] <Galerien> "toor"
[12:45] <jdv> I have tried root, ubuntu, neither work
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> the user and pass should be 'ubuntu' and just a empty password.
[12:45] <alpha> jrib: yes, it just keeps "connecting" without anything happening
[12:45] <Vigo> !root | jdv
[12:45] <jdv> Autentication error
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> of coruse its not supposed to even ask. it ssuppose dto auto login to the desktop
[12:45] <red2kic> waan: Hmm. What doe "dpkg -L transmission-qt" say?
[12:45] <Vigo> jdv: sudo it
[12:45] <dto> hi Dr_Willis. you popped up on my screen because you mistyped my name by mistake :)
[12:45] <dto> "dto"
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> :P
[12:46] <jdv> Vigo huh
[12:46] <jdv> Yea thats irrelevant. :/
[12:46] <rozal22> ??
[12:46] <waan> red2kic: http://pastebin.com/sZEjienS
[12:46] <shaullx> zege anyway to do that in linux?
[12:47] <Vigo> jdv: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[12:47] <red2kic> waan: Okay. I guess you have to generate a config file. Try run "qtr" -- It'll probably fail due to no X Display.
[12:47] <jdv> Vigo this is a live CD login prompt.
[12:47] <jrib> alpha: sounds like some sort of router/network issue to me
[12:47] <waan> red2kic: yeah, no x server
[12:47] <Vigo> jdv: whoops,
[12:47] <red2kic> waan: Look for .transmission-qt  -- Something like that?
[12:47] <zege> shaullx: i do not know any other app that allows u to apply effects to you webcam in live mode.
[12:47] <red2kic> waan: Or .transmission?
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> jdv:  i would wonder if the cd was not burnt properly. or the iso file was currupted.
[12:48] <red2kic> waan: The files should look eerily same in both directories.
[12:48] <waan> red2kic: yeah there is no qt config :(
[12:48] <jrib> alpha: have you tried with a different computer on the same network?
[12:48] <red2kic> waan: That's fine. You want to ln -s the other folder to transmission-daemon
[12:48] <Stereocaulon> alpha, try resetting the cache of your browser, exit your browser and retry.
[12:49] <bushbaby> update-manager becomes unresponsive while doing distribution upgrade. Call trace says it's dying while trying to establish a connection. anyone else having this issue? (9.04->9.10 but also experienced from 9.a0->10.04LTS)
[12:49] <alpha> jrib: nope, unfortunately this is the only computer I have (on the network)
[12:49] <waan> red2kic: so create a .config/transmission-tq and link config file ?
[12:49] <ng3but> hello guys
[12:49] <ng3but> how to change the vpn default port?
[12:50] <red2kic> waan: Let's just rename transmission to transmission-bak -- then something like this. transmission ---> transmission-daemon
[12:50] <red2kic> waan: Link the folder.  Not just a single file.
[12:50] <Vigo> bushbaby: Did you update && upgrade before Dist Upgrade?
[12:50] <aboSamoor> I am trying to use diff with -B switch, but I do not think it is working with me. http://paste.ubuntu.com/431061/
[12:50] <Stereocaulon> alpha, if you have root on you computer, you might try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[12:50] <alienkid10> hello I am trying to reformat a laptop I got second hand
[12:50] <zvacet> bushbaby:  sudo dpkg --configure -a   sudo apt-get -f install if you ge any errors paste it here
[12:50] <bushbaby> Vigo: yes. It goes unresponsive with or withough updating
[12:51] <waan> red2kic: yeah you lost me
[12:51] <jrib> alpha: maybe tracepath will give some insight
[12:51] <zege> alienkid10: and what is the problem?
[12:51] <red2kic> waan: Or you could just rename the folder. Either way works.  I find linking better because I occasionally will change the settings.
[12:51] <bushbaby> zvacet: i'll try that now thanks
[12:51] <alienkid10> and when I try to delate the partition it gives me the following error from libparted
[12:51] <alienkid10> Input/output error during write on /dev/sda
[12:52] <alpha> Stereocaulon, (clearing cache and restarting the network) did not fix the issue
[12:52] <jrib> alpha: arxiv.org resolves to the same ip here by the way
[12:52] <alienkid10> also getting information on the NTFS partition says alot of stuff about $mft
[12:52] <zvacet> alienkid10 : is iso checked with md5sum
[12:52] <ng3but> anyone? please.. how to change pptp vpn server default port?
[12:52] <red2kic> waan: Please pastebin ~/.config/tran*
[12:53] <bushbaby> zvacet: No errors frmo the commands
[12:53] <alienkid10> my iso is yes
[12:53] <bushbaby> from*
[12:53] <robin0800> alienkid10: you can not use parted on a mounted disk
[12:53] <alienkid10> and my CD
[12:53] <Stereocaulon> alpha, please pastebin the output of tracepath www.arxiv.org
[12:53] <alienkid10> robin0800: not mounted
[12:53] <alpha> jrib: http://pastebin.com/ehKEb3ML
[12:53] <zvacet> bushbaby:  lsb_release -a
[12:53] <alpha> Stereocaulon, http://pastebin.com/ehKEb3ML
[12:54] <red2kic> waan: There are multiple transmissions clients, gtk, gt and daemon -- They each have their own file and settings and are treated individually but the configuration files all are same.
[12:54] <krazykrivda> So who here knows hwo to make java work for firefox on 10.4
[12:54] <alienkid10> now it says it doesn't exist in the info thing
[12:54] <red2kic> !anyone | krazykrivda
[12:54] <robin0800> alienkid10: if you install linux from an alternate cd you can format during the install
[12:54] <alienkid10> and mtab(what is it?) is missing too risky to continue
[12:54] <waan> red2kic: http://pastebin.com/yJdVqS1R
[12:54] <jrib> krazykrivda: install sun-java6-plugin from canonical's partner repo (system -> administration -> software sources)
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> Hmm. Install the java packages.. it works..
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> !java
[12:55] <jrib> krazykrivda: and it's 10.04 please
[12:55] <alienkid10> robin0800: isn't it still parted?
[12:55] <Vigo> krazykrivda: You can use Proprietary or Gnash.
[12:55] <Stereocaulon> alpha, it almost looks as if the admin of the website has blocked your IP (or your IP-range)
[12:55] <krazykrivda> jrib: doesn't work for me.. (yahoo games issues) I've been looking for sun-java5
[12:55] <bushbaby> zvacet: Switching irc client to ubuntu box to pastebin output. be right back..
[12:55] <krazykrivda> jrib: 10.04* sry for the typo
[12:55] <robin0800> alienkid10: don't know
[12:56] <red2kic> waan: Okay. "ln -s $HOME/.config/transmission-daemon transmission"
[12:56] <alienkid10> what if I reboot the liveCD
[12:56] <jrib> krazykrivda: pastebin   apt-cache policy sun-java6-plugin
[12:56] <__doc__> just a humble question: why the fuck do we still have to do this?! wtf? http://linuxtree.blogspot.com/2010/05/how-to-play-mp3-avi-in-ubuntu-1004.html
[12:57] <krazykrivda> jrib: I have found install for sun-java5 but they all create various issues (I have read up on google from 5 different forum posts about the issue) none of those solutions have worked for me... by the way.. they are all 3 year old threads
[12:57] <bushbaby_> zvacet, http://pastebin.com/KfsmwYx7
[12:57] <alpha> Stereocaulon, might be that. I guess I'll try to contact the admin and see. thanks
[12:57] <maco> __doc__: watch your language
[12:57] <krazykrivda> jrib: I've removed sun-java6 already
[12:57] <robin0800> alienkid10: I think the alternate cd is better
[12:57] <red2kic> waan: You got transmission -> /home/chris/.config/transmission-daemon/ ... Right?
[12:57] <waan> red2kic: Ok now I have transmission-daemon and transmission configs
[12:57] <Stereocaulon> alpha, the last part of the tracepath is exactly the same on my box, only it ends with"14:  arxiv4.library.cornell.edu (<IP_ADDRESS>)          124.434ms !H"
[12:57] <ng3but> __doc__,  still have trouble with mp3 / avi things?
[12:57] <maco> __doc__: and we have to deal with it because the US has software patents. if youre in the US write to your congresscritter
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> __doc__:  do what?
[12:57] <stpiere> hello, does anyone know how this webcam can be get to work in ubuntu ? Link : http://www.logitech.com/de-de/480/3403?WT.z_sp=Image
[12:57] <__doc__> maco: yeah, still, I've been doing this in ubuntu 6, 7, 8, 9, and now I'll have to do it *again*...
[12:57] <alienkid10> ok
[12:57] <waan> red2kic: rgr
[12:57] <maco> there were no versions 6, 7, 8, or 9
[12:57] <Vigo> !restricted | krazykrivda
[12:58] <Kangarooo> what's wrong with this video? I made it with gtk-recordmydesktop and its fuzzy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XTq3gO9eaM before upgrade I was able to make normal videos and upload them to youtube
[12:58] <jrib> __doc__: you don't... just double click on an mp3 and you'll be able to play it
[12:58] <red2kic> waan: Perfect. Can you ssh out then "ssh -X user@ip" ?  Then run "qtr"
[12:58] <krazykrivda> Vigo: thanks.. i will read that
[12:58] <red2kic> waan: Better to stop transmission-daemon first, just in case.
[12:58] <__doc__> jrib: does not apply to DVDs, AVIs, MPEGs, or pretty much anything else to do with media
[12:58] <bushbaby> zvacet, ok. switch complete. http://pastebin.com/KfsmwYx7 There's output
[12:58] <__doc__> I'm not in the US...
[12:58] <__doc__> I don't care what idiotic laws the US has
[12:58] <jrib> __doc__: it doesn't apply to DVDs, but the other stuff should work fine
[12:59] <Vigo> krazykrivda: You are welcome, that should explain the resolution for you.
[12:59] <stpiere> hello, does anyone know how this webcam can be get to work in ubuntu ? Link : http://www.logitech.com/de-de/480/3403?WT.z_sp=Image
[12:59] <elky> __doc__, why? Software patents.
[12:59] <zvacet> bushbaby_ : so you are using 9.04 and you are trying to upgrade to karmic right
[12:59] <jrib> __doc__: and this channel is for support, not ranting please
[12:59] <__doc__> elky: no software patents here either
[12:59] <waan> red2kic: umm yeah im using putty :(
[12:59] <bushbaby> zvacet, I'm trying to upgrade to 9.10 but eventually to Lucid yes
[12:59] <red2kic> waan: Ugh.
[12:59] <maco> __doc__: the US makes it illegal for things like avi and mpeg codecs to be distributed on the CD.  so enable the restricted repository and install ubuntu-restricted-extras and you're done
[12:59] <bazhang> __doc__, install ubuntu-restricted-extras for nearly everything
[12:59] <newbie> rieccomi
[12:59] <red2kic> waan: That is... :\
[13:00] <alienkid10> robin0800: how big is the altCD and will it let me just partition then back out?
[13:00] <waan> red2kic: lol whoops
[13:00] <red2kic> Anybody here know X11 forward for Windows?
[13:00] <zvacet> bushbaby:  do you have separate home partition
[13:00] <__doc__> mackal, bazhang, jrib: surely it is not illegal to include a *button* in the settings for that?
[13:00] <bazhang> __doc__, lets move this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:00] <Stereocaulon> __doc__, I couldn't agree more...
[13:00] <jrib> __doc__: it does.  It offers to install what you need when you double click on a file or as bazhang said, you can install a single package and get almost everything.  I think DVDs are the exception here
[13:00] <waan> red2kic: I was confused as to where you were going with this X_X
[13:00] <bushbaby> zvacet: No. Current partition setup is just one main boot partition at / for Ubuntu and two others for other distros
[13:01] <stpiere> hello, does anyone know how this webcam can be get to work in ubuntu ? Link : http://www.logitech.com/de-de/480/3403?WT.z_sp=Image
[13:01] <Vigo> !hardware
[13:01] <red2kic> waan: I assume you were on linux system configuring linux server
[13:01] <bazhang> stpiere, checked the supported webcam list yet?
[13:01] <bazhang> !webcam | stpiere
[13:01] <stpiere> thanks
[13:01] <waan> red2kic: Don't worry man, appreciate the help. I have transmission running so its fine
[13:01] <maco> __doc__: you dont need to use command line
[13:01] <zvacet> bushbaby:  backup all valuable files and then  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:01] <maco> __doc__: software center has ubuntu-restricted-extras in it
[13:02] <maco> er wrong channel
[13:02] <red2kic> waan: Try saving the password. Run daemon. Then open the file again, is it hashed?
[13:02] <zvacet> bushbaby:  after thast system>admin>update manager>upgrade to karmic
[13:02] <trouble35> Hi
[13:03] <Stereocaulon> trouble35, How can we help you?
[13:03] <Vigo> Does or will Encrypting /home cause instability?
[13:03] <trouble35> trying to think how to phrase the question
[13:03] <bushbaby> zvacet, update & upgrade completed, no errors. no packages to be removed etc.. update-manager just hangs again..
[13:03] <trouble35> ok, basically I have this CCTV device, it has some video footage on it which I want to get hold of to burn to cd
[13:03] <ng3but> bazhang, how to change pptp vpn server default port?
[13:04] <red2kic> Vigo: Don't use ecryptfs (or something like that) for home encryption. I think it's hassle.
[13:04] <ng3but> i really didn't find about port configuration
[13:04] <usr13> trouble35: you want to make a DVD?
[13:04] <trouble35> the device is AP-2004G by sunivision, its a pretty horrid system has no real interface to it
[13:04] <Vigo> red2kic: Thank you, that makes sense.
[13:04] <Stereocaulon> trouble35, what kind of chipset does your capture card have?
[13:04] <trouble35> no usr13
[13:04] <trouble35> i don't know, ignore the cctv device in question
[13:05] <trouble35> basically I want to connect to it by USB (usb bridge) and move files about
[13:05] <trouble35> is this possible with ubuntu?
[13:05] <red2kic> waan: http://cc.jlab.org/docs/services/windows/X11/
[13:05] <krtek> Hi
[13:05] <Stereocaulon> trouble35, If it registers itself as portable storage, it will be possible.
[13:05] <zvacet> bushbaby:  just a sec
[13:05] <bushbaby> zvacet, no worries
[13:05] <red2kic> waan: Anyway. I think I'm wearing myself out assisting you. I'm going to watch the shows transmission got for me. You can come in here anytime. ;)
[13:06] <trouble35> sterocaulon do you know of any usb bridge cables that will be good for this?
[13:06] <ng3but> hello?
[13:06] <trouble35> hi
[13:06] <usuario_> usuario
[13:06] <usuario_> usuario
[13:06] <Stereocaulon> trouble35, If it doesn't use standard USB, than I wouldn't know.
[13:06] <trouble35> it uses standard usb
[13:07] <trouble35> well usb 2
[13:07] <ng3but> hello
[13:07] <ng3but> guys
[13:07] <trouble35> but its the A type connector on the box
[13:07] <trouble35> so its A/A not A/B
[13:07] <zvacet> bushbaby: sudo aptitude full-upgrade
[13:07] <Kavipone> why not get a camcorder and record wats on the tv, its a cheap suggestion
[13:07] <Stereocaulon> trouble35, when you connect the device to your USB port, does it register in the output of lsusb ?
[13:07] <trouble35> I haven't attempted yet
[13:08] <bushbaby> zvacet, all fine. no errors
[13:08] <alienkid10> ok I rebooted the LiveCD and opened Gparted. I right clicked on SDA1(NTFS) and got info it has heck of a lot of "error reading $mft record(s): Input/output error."
[13:08] <trouble35> I wanted to check before I attempted to do this
[13:08] <alienkid10> anyway to reformat the drive or did I get a useless laptop
[13:08] <ng3but> Stereocaulon, can you help me?
[13:08] <ng3but> i need some clue
[13:08] <trouble35> ng3but fire away, if someone can help they will try
[13:08] <usr13> alienkid10: Might very well be  hardware issue
[13:09] <ng3but> okay
[13:09] <alienkid10> usr13: that's what I was afraid of
[13:09] <zvacet> bushbaby:  that supose to upgrade to next release it should't done that quick
[13:09] <alienkid10> anything I could even try
[13:09] <Stereocaulon> ng3but, please ask your question
[13:10] <bushbaby> zvacet, That just does an extended version of upgrade and update in my terminal. then exits.. no errors though
[13:10] <usr13> alienkid10: hdparm
[13:10] <ng3but> okay, can you gimme clue to change pptp vpn server default port? i couldn't find the configuration
[13:10] <alienkid10> hdparm?
[13:11] <zvacet> bushbaby:  lsb_release -a again and see witch version do you run now
[13:11] <bushbaby> zvacet, It does say that it needs to get 0B of archives and thus use 0B of final storage space which can't be right..
[13:11] <usr13> alienkid10: i.e. hdparm -I /dev/hda
[13:11] <Stereocaulon> ng3but, try this link: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialNetworking.html#VPN
[13:11] <ng3but> thank you Stereocaulon
[13:11] <bushbaby> zvacet, Exact same release as before
[13:11] <xdmx> anyone know the channel of xdmx ?
[13:12] <zvacet> bushbaby:  sudo apttitude dist-upgrade
[13:12] <zvacet> *aptitude
[13:12] <ng3but> *aptitude
[13:13] <bushbaby> zvacet, same output as aptitude full-upgrade
[13:13] <alienkid10> ok
[13:14] <usr13> alienkid10: There's also hdsentinel (and you can run it from a thumb drive). See: http://www.hdsentinel.com/hdslin.php
[13:15] <alienkid10> usr13 what do I do with the -I data
[13:15] <user0815> how do i configure networking in ubuntu server edition from the console?
[13:15] <inoh> hi, how do you take a screen shot during boot up?
[13:16] <lucid_lynx> how can I remove a user from a group in the command line?
[13:16] <alienkid10> inoh a camera
[13:16] <zvacet> bushbaby:  download karmic alternate CD and upgrade with it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades
[13:16] <usr13> alienkid10: just FYI
[13:16] <zvacet> bushbaby:  that is all I can think of right now
[13:17] <bushbaby> zvacet, Ok thanks for your help.
[13:17] <zvacet> bushbaby:  sorry I was not much of help  :(
[13:18] <^Fredrik> lucid_lynx: you can use usermod -G to list the groups that you want the user to belong to
[13:18] <xdmx> !xdmx
[13:19] <private_meta> heya. I have a problem on 10.04. When using Youtube via Firefox, using shockwave flash 10.0 (according to plugins) Youtube doesn't react to any clicks anymore. As this only happens/happenend to me on ubuntu I've come here for help. Any Idea?
[13:19] <zvacet> bushbaby:  download will be the same as network upgrade and you will have CD if you want fresh install
[13:19] <asfjio> hello, can someone tell me how to disable the tracked process? i've tried to disable indexing and watching from System -> Preferences -> Search and indexing, also tried to remove it from the startup sessions (gnome-session-properties), and finaly i killed the process. but now it is running again. what i'm missing?
[13:20] <xdmx> private_meta: try other browser
[13:21] <PHP_Arun> hello ppls....
[13:21] <PHP_Arun> is there any way  by which i can change the about ubuntu documentations..?
[13:21] <private_meta> xdmx: Doesn't work with Chromium either
[13:22] <xdmx> private_meta: google chome? thats strange since flash is bundeled with it
[13:22] <PHP_Arun> and what are the optional mods i can do to remaster an Ubuntu CD 9.04 ?
[13:22] <mariya> what do I need to be able to change language of the kde application under gnome?
[13:22] <Pici> xdmx: chromium is not the same as chrome.
[13:22] <private_meta> xdmx: I said Chromium, from the package, not Chrome... I know there's not much difference, but I think there is
[13:22] <Stereocaulon> PHP_Arun, Try the Ubuntu Customization Kit
[13:23] <oobe> #spider-man
[13:23] <Pici> !remaster | PHP_Arun
[13:23] <xdmx> Pici: l2r, i never said that
[13:23] <private_meta> -package+repository
[13:23] <PHP_Arun> i want to make this Remastered Ubuntu distribution with some extra softwares added for Extreme Development use in Cyber forensics.... and have added a Mac Feel and look to it. and i want to name it iBuntu.....
[13:23] <PHP_Arun> and btw, i am already using a copy of remastersys
[13:23] <xdmx> private_meta: and i said chrome right? :P try chrome? not try chromium?:p
[13:23] <PHP_Arun> but how can i make custom bootsplash screens?
[13:23] <PHP_Arun> ( startup splash)
[13:23] <private_meta> xdmx: you said try another browser, and I did
[13:24] <xdmx> private_meta: ok
[13:24] <PHP_Arun> and also, replace all the Ubuntu refference with iBuntu? like as in the Ubuntu documentations?
[13:24] <Stereocaulon> !splash
[13:24] <Stereocaulon> !splash | PHP_Arun
[13:25] <usr13> asfjio: http://www.askdavetaylor.com/how_do_i_find_all_child_processes_in_unix.html
[13:25] <PHP_Arun> sure ubottu
[13:25] <private_meta> xdmx: I'm downloading Chrome and Opera now for testing, I'm unsure if that helps though
[13:25] <inoh> alienkid10, would you mind looking at this error message?
[13:25] <PHP_Arun> but ubottu , will that change the uSplash or the actual bootsplash shown right after the GRUB bootloader menu
[13:25] <xdmx> private_meta: it wont help
[13:26] <Stereocaulon> PHP_Arun, Sorry mate, ubottu is a bot
[13:26] <PHP_Arun> err, never knew tht
[13:26] <PHP_Arun> hahaha
[13:26] <PHP_Arun> :)
[13:27] <PHP_Arun> so can i change the uSplash or the actual bootsplash shown right after the GRUB bootloader menu? Stereocaulon ?
[13:27] <private_meta> It works with other Flash-Video Sites such as Vimeo, it works with other operating systems (win7), it just seems the combination of youtube + ubuntu 10.04 that breaks it
[13:27] <Stereocaulon> PHP_Arun, Of course you can, but I don't know any programs that will make you design that.
[13:28] <Stereocaulon> PHP_Arun, You might try the grub2 docs, though
[13:28] <PHP_Arun> what if i already have tht .so file?
[13:28] <PHP_Arun> i dont mean the GRUB screen
[13:28] <asfjio> usr13: thanks will look it.
[13:28] <Stereocaulon> PHP_Arun, No, sorry about that
[13:29] <PHP_Arun> err... okay
[13:29] <PHP_Arun> but i have this .so file tht will change the Ubuntu Loading screen to the Mac. Loading screen. isnt there any way to implement it on ubuntu 9.04?
[13:29] <Stereocaulon> PHP_Arun, Here you are: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=228431
[13:30] <waan> red2kic: lol just realised there is a preferences button on the web interface. Its tiny down on the bottom left
[13:30] <PHP_Arun> thank your Stereocaulon
[13:30] <waan> red2kic: basically download location and speeds
[13:30] <Stereocaulon> PHP_Arun, np, just a matter of some good keywords in a google session
[13:31] <PHP_Arun> hehe
[13:31] <PHP_Arun> thanks though
[13:31] <PHP_Arun> :)
[13:32] <PHP_Arun> and , google, infact is a mans best friend
[13:32] <Stereocaulon> PHP_Arun, Well, I am cautious about that last remark, but that is off-topic here
[13:33] <PHP_Arun> hehe
[13:33] <PHP_Arun> kindda
[13:33] <inoh> how do you set the size limit of xchat scrollback logs?
[13:34] <tinku> hi there
[13:34] <Stereocaulon> tinku, hi tinku, what do you want to know?
[13:34] <tinku> I have a problem in installing nvidia driver in ubuntu 10.04
[13:34] <tinku> can any one help me.pls......
[13:35] <Stereocaulon> tinku, please try describing exactly what you encounter in one continuous liine (without Enters)
[13:35] <bushbaby> inoh, Settings->Preferences->Textbox->Scrollback lines.
[13:35] <Italian_Plumber> is there a way to tell the sytem not to do a filesystem check on a drive at startup?  Do I just not mount the drive?
[13:35] <oal> How do I find what version of a package is available with aptitude? If I do sudo aptitude search ajaxterm for example, I can't see what version it is
[13:35] <simar> tinku open ubutu software centre . Enter nvidia there and install !! as simple
[13:35] <tinku> It's showing failed to initialize the graphic driver
[13:36] <Stereocaulon> tinku, do you get any desktop at all, or just text?
[13:36] <CaptainMorgan> wow - 10.04 has seriously impressed me
[13:36] <CaptainMorgan> great work folks
[13:36] <tarzeau> CaptainMorgan: what exactly of it?
[13:36] <tinku> yup....with low grapic mode sometimes terminal alone
[13:37] <usr13> Italian_Plumber: man fstab
[13:37] <CaptainMorgan> tarzeau, everything... I'm coming from 8.04, and it's such an improvement overall
[13:37] <tarzeau> CaptainMorgan: great, when you didn't get hit by any bugs/problems
[13:37] <user0815> how do i set up ubuntu to use a http proxy from the command line?
[13:37] <CaptainMorgan> tarzeau, reminds of a mix between Fedora, Mac and a touch of Windows... Ubuntu is ready for
[13:37] <inoh> thank you bushbaby
[13:37] <simar> can anyone tell how to remove previous ubuntu versions in GRUB ...???
[13:37] <tarzeau> simar: older kernels?
[13:37] <Stereocaulon> tinku, <phone>
[13:38] <tarzeau> simar: just aptitude remove the older kernels... you see them in /boot/
[13:38] <CaptainMorgan> tarzeau, I've been installing stuff for a awhile now... not too many - I will say, I can't program my keyboard shortcut Super L to my home folder... :(
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[13:38] <erUSUL> simar: remove the kernels i synaptic
[13:38] <simar> tarzeau, ya that appear in grub between my windows ... verry anoying
[13:38] <bushbaby> simar: Using grub v1 edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[13:38] <usr13> !grub2 | simar
[13:38] <bushbaby> simar: then "sudo update-grub"
[13:38] <tinku> hey there is no menu.lst in grub2
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> simar: if you can use: http://pastebin.com    and give the output of: uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image     I can advise
[13:39] <bushbaby> tinku, For grub 2 see the link.
[13:39] <Vinny782> alguem do rbasil ae?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> !br | Vinny782
[13:39] <erUSUL> !br | Vinny782
[13:39] <usr13> simar: But if it is old kernels you want to get rid of, use the package manager.
[13:39] <Vinny782> #ubuntu-br
[13:39] <simar> can anyone tell also that what is the need of older kernel .. i mean why they don't autodelete
[13:40] <Vinny782> ei
[13:40] <simar> usr13, whats grub2???
[13:40] <rocket16> !grub2 | simar
[13:40] <CaptainMorgan> simar, that was by far the most shocking to me... grub2
[13:40] <Vinny782> onde acha temas para o ubuntu 10.04
[13:40] <Vinny782> ?
[13:40] <CaptainMorgan> shocking since I have about four other drives that I need to run with grub2... so I had to learn that quick!
[13:41] <usr13> simar: Obviously, so that you can revert to using one of them.  If something works with an older kernel and not with the new one.  For experimentation... etc. etc.
[13:41] <bushbaby> simar, the old kernels don't autodelete so you can fall back to one if a new kernel doesn't work well on your system for example..
[13:41] <CaptainMorgan> turns out grub2 was with 9.04/.10... but I didn't upgrade to those
[13:41] <bushbaby> simar: see usr13
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> simar: they hang around due to possible issues. Ifyou upgrade the kernel and the installer deletes the old ones then what do you do if the new kernel gives you issues. The system would be unusable. Keeping the old kernels allows you to boot to the old kernel, remove the new kernel and log a bug then continue to use the sysyem
[13:41] <rocket16> Friends, in Terminal, is there a way to make a Python compiled file without running the .py? I mean, if I import it from Python with OS module, it'll get executed. But what I want is to build a .pyc without executing.
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Vinny782: /j #ubuntu-br
[13:41] <edlugh> join #brasil
[13:41] <rocket16> Because Ubuntu terminal can execute .pyc directly, using Python,
[13:42] <rocket16> !br | Vinny782
[13:42] <simar> but isn't the old kernels occupying my lot of disc space???
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> simar: if you give the output of the command I can sling together a command to get rid of the superfluous kernels
[13:42] <tinku> in mozilla flash is not working even after installing the adobe flash 10
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> simar: yes ~120mb per kernel
[13:42] <fadil> hi
[13:43] <rocket16> !hi | fadil
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> tinku: can you use: http://pastebin.com    and give the output of: dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[13:43] <simar> oh so i mean is it customary to delete old kernels or to keep them ?? what is advisable ....
[13:43] <bushbaby> rocket16: how do you mean? you wnat to edit a .py file without running it?
[13:43] <usr13> simar: Depends on what your definition of "a lot"?  If you have a 500G HD and the kernel is occupying 50M, well, I'd say that is not "a lot".
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> simar: when you upgrade kernel, try it a few days depending on PC use, if its find then the old can be removed
[13:44] <Italian_Plumber> usr13: Thanks!  It's all there, and it didn't check it.
[13:44] <usr13> simar: If you have a 500M HD, well, that is a different story.
[13:44] <usr13> Italian_Plumber: NP
[13:44] <duongthaiha> Hi I just upgrade to ubuntu 10.04 and i used gnome-mount to auto mount a partition at 9.04 but there is no gnome-mount in 10.04 now. Do you know is there another way to automount a NTFS partition plz? Thanks a lot
[13:45] <rocket16> A shocking thing! I see that g++ is no longer included in Ubuntu as pre-installed package here!
[13:46] <usr13> rocket16: Well, it IS installable.
[13:46] <edlugh> Is there a problem with unbutu Forums (aptitute)?
[13:46] <edlugh> Someone took issue with the firefox flash?
[13:46] <tic^> ntfs-3g | duongthaiha
[13:46] <simar> ok then how to install grub2 ... is it necessary
[13:46] <rocket16> usr13: Lol, I know, just "sudo apt-get install g++", but it would have been nicer to have been preinstalled, :D
[13:46] <edlugh> which channel ubuntu Brazil?
[13:46] <usr13> simar: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> duongthaiha: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/mountwindows#ntfsconfig
[13:46] <Pici> !br | edlugh
[13:46] <rocket16> !br | edlugh
[13:46] <edlugh> tanks
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> rocket16: no but its in build-essential
[13:47] <Pici> edlugh: #ubuntu-br
[13:47] <rocket16> ActionParsnip: Yes, :)
[13:47] <simar> usr13, i have 10.10 latest
[13:47] <duongthaiha> ActionParsnip: thanks :D
[13:47] <rocket16> simar: What? 10.10 of Ubuntu?
[13:47] <tazz> hi, i just upgraded to lucid, i am behind a squid proxy, i used to set http_proxy for using apt-get, but now for some reason i cant use the same config for installing packages.
[13:48] <simar> rocket16, lucid lync i don't remember the version .. :(
[13:48] <arand> simar: If you do run pre-alpha, it's in #ubuntu+1
[13:48] <tazz> any alternatives ?
[13:48] <rocket16> simar: It is 10.04, :) 10.10 is to be released by Octobar 29
[13:48] <usr13> simar: You HAVE grub2.  But, in answer to your question;  Yes, you can remove old/unwanted kernels.  No problem. Just use the packagemanager and remove them.  It will not hurt anything.  It will be fine.
[13:48] <simar> arand, whats that???
[13:48] <nishad> hi
[13:48] <bushbaby> simar: Latest stable non-alpha version is 10.04 Lucid Lynx
[13:49] <simar> ok fine ...  actiually i use 10.04
[13:49] <rocket16> !hi > arand
[13:49] <simar> i will remove old kernels ...  and thanks all
[13:49] <rocket16> arand, oops sorry, :( Please excuse my fault
[13:49] <simar> have a nice day!! :D
[13:49] <usr13> simar: lsb_release -a
[13:50] <ffsdftrr> had anyone else Lucid have a problem with GDM after recent updates, that shit shows no userlist and crash when Button is pressed anyone?
[13:50] <sangho> http://5angh0.shworks.com/images/desktop/tost.png  in this list, how can i remove 2007 Microsoft* ?
[13:50] <michaelxq> did anyone find how to set up the camera in sony vaio VGN-FZ21E??
[13:50] <sangho> i already remove wine and ~/.wine directory
[13:50] <simar> usr13, whats the full form .. actually i'm a new user forget these commands .. so i remember it ...
[13:51] <Radio-b> how would I go about adding network drivers to an install image? is this as simple as copying the driver binaries from my current install?
[13:51] <ffsdftrr> sangho: check your ~/.local/applications dir for possible clues
[13:51] <sangho> thank
[13:51] <subspider> hi guys i have an apache server running and the default folder is /var/www/  do you guys know how to add aother folder ??
[13:52] <ffsdftrr> subspider: create more virtual servers or use symlinks
[13:52] <scryption2> hello there
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> michaelxq: run: lsusb     one line will relate to the camera, use its 8 character hex ID to find guides
[13:52] <subspider> ffsdftrr, how do i do that
[13:52] <subspider> ??
[13:53] <scryption2> is aufs package still broken for ubuntu 10.04 , it does not show up in repo
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> !ohmy | ffsdftrr
[13:53] <michaelxq> ActionParsnip, i'm new to ubuntu can you tell me again more detailed please?
[13:53] <ffsdftrr> subspider: check apache conf files, no idea where they are on Ubix
[13:53] <subspider> ok
[13:53] <ffsdftrr> ActionParsnip: are u high, what was that for?
[13:53] <subspider> ffsdftrr, thanks
[13:54] <Cube``> i'm trying to backup my /home/cube. when i start copying, it tells me that it cannot treat the folder "mozilla_backup_2009_08_05blablabla" because i dont have the permission to read it. any ideas?
[13:54] <scryption2> how would i create an deep freeze kind of ubuntu for demonstrations?
[13:54] <ffsdftrr> subspider: or just create symlink of your content directory in /var/www with ln -s
[13:54] <scryption2> so i do not need to install every time
[13:54] <usr13> subspider: I suggest just using symlinks
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> ffsdftrr: "hat shit shows no userlist and crash when Button is pressed anyone?"  no I'm not high, just keeping the rules of the channel
[13:55] <oCean_> subspider: see /etc/apache2 configuration directory. There is a subdirectory "sites-available"
[13:55] <usr13> subspider: ln -s /home/subspider/public_html /var/www/
[13:55] <usr13> etc
[13:55] <michaelxq> did anyone find how to set up the camera in sony vaio VGN-FZ21E??
[13:56] <subspider> thnks usr13
[13:56] <oCean_> subspider: you could start with the "default" file there, and based on that create your own configuration file. After that you have to create a link from "sites-available" to "sites-enabled" - the command "a2ensite" can do that for you
[13:56] <subspider> usr13, i allready have the folder there
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> michaelxq: if you use: http://pastebin.com   to give te output I can help, clearly the output has confused you
[13:56] <ffsdftrr> i would unadvise symlinks though, because of permision problems possible
[13:56] <rocket16> What is the command to set a shell script to be executed at logon of a particular account? (like .bashrc file in VC, Shell)
[13:56] <usr13> subspider: ln -s /home/subspider/public_html /var/www/MySite  (If you want it to be a different name).
[13:57] <rocket16> I know it can be done with GUI, but  wish to make a script
[13:57] <michaelxq> ActionParsnip, thanks, i'll try and let you know
[13:57] <usr13> subspider: You can move the folder where ever you want and then symlink it to /var/www/
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> usr13: that'll need sudo ;)
[13:57] <AlexzAK> Hi all
[13:57] <ffsdftrr> gdm problem? anyone! has ufter recent updates?
[13:58] <usr13> subspider: And as ActionParsnip says, you will need to use sudo
[13:58] <ab93ab1> Hi, does anybody know to active a hardware driver for my graphic card?, when I open the hardware update menu it get listed
[13:58] <ab93ab1> BUt there is no enable button
[13:59] <subspider> thnks guys
[13:59] <ffsdftrr> honestly i would submit a bug in gdm but has no idea what to write in it :(
[13:59] <subspider> i will try
[13:59] <diddy> Is there a chat channel for the Evolution PIM?
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> ab93ab1: try: gksudo jockey-gtk
[14:00] <ab93ab1> still no ENable button, just a remove button
[14:00] <ab93ab1> oh
[14:00] <jmburgess> Does anyone know how to hide join/part messages in empathy?
[14:00] <chalet16> What is the replacement of  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"  in ubuntu 10.04?
[14:00] <ab93ab1> it activated it, sorry, thank you very much.
[14:00] <AlexzAK> After update to 10.04 i have big black cursor on kde apps. If i run "systemsettings" command and set (already selected) orange one, then my mouse cursor becomes orange.
[14:00] <zhxk> i would like ssh service be on whenever i logined to gnome console or not
[14:00] <AlexzAK> But when i logoff/logon; becomes black again
[14:01] <jbwiv> anyone know of a tool that will show video codecs used by a file?
[14:01] <diddy> Is there a way to change the date format in Evolution from American to European? Month/Day/Dear drives me nuts.
[14:01] <usr13> chalet16: What display adapter are you using?
[14:01] <ffsdftrr> other problem, how to find a package which *provides* some other one?
[14:02] <chalet16> I'm using nvidia but I want to remove it and revert to nv open source driver.
[14:02] <usr13> chalet16: What is  your situation?
[14:02] <usr13> chalet16: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:02] <ZykoticK9> jbwiv, if you use mplayer from command line, I think it will show the codec being used in the text output
[14:02] <michaelxq> ActionParsnip, i'm more confused now...
[14:02] <chalet16> @usr13 and it will automatic recreate?
[14:02] <usr13> chalet16: Or mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak
[14:02] <erUSUL> diddy: that is governed by the current locale. what are you using ?
[14:02] <michaelxq> ActionParsnip, i need drivers to get my camera working woth obuntu
[14:03] <krtek> HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HELP!HE
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[14:03] <FloodBot4> krtek: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:03] <FloodBot2> krtek: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:03] <FloodBot1> krtek: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:03] <usr13> chalet16: But you will need to use sudo
[14:03] <ZykoticK9> chalet16, FYI Lucid uses Nouveau instead of nv by default
[14:03] <azareth> my ubuntu hangs on loading "/scripts/init-bottom", but I could find that file/directory on the flash drive, can someone help me?
[14:03] <zhxk> i would like ssh service be on whenever i logined to gnome console or not
[14:03] <zhxk> i would like ssh service be on whenever i logined to gnome console or not, help me, if you?
[14:03] <chalet16> @ZykoticK9 ok
[14:03] <ffsdftrr> lol those russkies are funny
[14:03] <chalet16> @usr13 So It will automatic recreate after i remove it?
[14:04] <bastid_raZor> zhxk: install openssh-server and it will start at boot
[14:04] <usr13> chalet16: Actually it is not needed.
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> michaelxq: run the command in a terminal, copy the output then go to http://pastebin.com   paste the text there and click the send/paste button. The page will change, copy the new address in the address bar and paste it here
[14:04] <chalet16> ok
[14:04] <chalet16> @usr13 @ZykoticK9 thanks
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> zhxk: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[14:04] <Cube``> ok this is what i get when trying to copy a file from my home folder :S:S:S The folder ".mozilla_backup_2009-08-05T23:37:41+0200" cannot be handled because you do not have permissions to read it.
[14:04] <diddy> erUSUL, Ubuntu 10.04
[14:04] <AlexzAK> Any one have wrong mouse cursor in kde applications?
[14:05] <zhxk> i would like ssh service be on whenever i logined to gnome console or not, help me, if you?
[14:05] <usr13> chalet16: /etc/X11/xorg.conf will be used if it is there.  If it is not there, the OpenSource driver will be loaded and your hardware will be automatically be dectected and configured as needed.
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> Cube``: try this: cd /home; sudo chown -R $USER:$USER ./$USER
[14:05] <sipior> zhxk: if you're not going to read the answers, why bother posting the question?
[14:05] <oCean_> zhxk: read the answers given to you
[14:05] <michaelxq> ActionParsnip, which command should i run??
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> zhxk:  a service should start at boot time. thats why its a service
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> michaelxq: lsusb
[14:06] <michaelxq> ActionParsnip, w8
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> michaelxq: it needs running in a terminal found under Applications menu -> accessories
[14:06] <Cube``> ActionParsnip: ok thanks, its still running, but it already gave me this: chown: cannot access `./cube/.gvfs': Permission denied
[14:06] <ffsdftrr> what is the switch for grep to search for regexps?
[14:06] <stevecam> UBUNTU
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> Cube``:  gvfs is special. Thats 'ok'
[14:06] <nibbier> ffsdftrr,  -e i believe
[14:06] <Pici> ffsdftrr: grep -e  will enable extended regex syntax
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> Cube``: thats fine, its a special file, you'll get a few more. Just makes sure your user is the owner of all its own data
[14:07] <jbwiv> ZykoticK9, ok, thanks
[14:07] <Cube``> Dr_Willis: alright ofc rouse, thanks
[14:07] <Cube``> kk
[14:07] <Cube``> Dr_Willis: whats gvfs anyways?
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> Cube``:  gnome virtual filesystem
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> !hi | stevecam
[14:07] <Cube``> Dr_Willis: ok. ActionParsnip: is it any bad that i set all the permission in my user folder to the same?
[14:07] <erUSUL> Pici: ffsdftrr is grep -E
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> Cube``:  in theory they should all be owned by your user. and set to your users group.
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> Cube``: no, tis is normal. the home folder is your data and should be owned by you
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> Cube``:  if you run some aps as root. it can goof things up
[14:08] <Pici> erUSUL: ah, you're right.  I was thinking too much about egrep (which provides grep -E)
[14:09] <Cube``> ok.
[14:09] <Cube``> i run everything as root
[14:09] <ffsdftrr> have anyone empty user list in Lucid GDM or it's crashing restarting X?
[14:10] <usr13> Cube``: then stop it.
[14:10] <Cube``> haha just kidding. thanks for your help guys, it seems to be working now.
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> !noroot | Cube``
[14:10] <xfact> Hello everyone!
[14:11] <stevecam> although it is possible to set a root passwd
[14:11] <michaelxq> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/search?cx=013305635491195529773%3At-lahnuezfu&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=UTF-8&q=lsusb+Bus+007+Device+001%3A+ID+1d6b%3A0001+Linux+Foundation+1.1+root+hub+Bus+006+Device+001%3A+ID+1d6b%3A0001+Linux+Foundation+1.1+root+hub+Bus+005+Device+001%3A+ID+1d6b%3A0001+Linux+Foundation+1.1+root+hub+Bus+004+Device+001%3A+ID+1d6b%3A0001+Linux+Foundation+1.1+root+hub+Bus+003+Device+001%3A+ID+1d6b%3A0001+Linux+Foundation+1
[14:11] <michaelxq> .1+root+hub+Bus+002+Device+001%3A+ID+1d6b%3A0002+Linux+Foundation+2.0+root+hub+Bus+001+Device+002%3A+ID+05ca%3A183b+Ricoh+Co.%2C+Ltd+Visual+Communication+Camera+VGP-VCC8+[R5U870]+Bus+001+Device+001%3A+ID+1d6b%3A0002+Linux+Foundation+2.0+root+hub&sa.x=0&sa.y=0&sa=Search
[14:11] <usr13> stevecam: never mind.
[14:11] <michaelxq> ActionParsnip, this is what you meant?
[14:12] <stevecam> sudo passwd should do the trick, but once you realise the point of changed your mind
[14:12] <Radio-b> you pasted in the wrong area
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> stevecam: its not advised and not supported
[14:12] <zamba> when upgrading ubuntu server from jaunty to lucid, do i have to do the intermediate step by karmic?
[14:12] <Dr_Willis> and pretty mych not needed. :0
[14:12] <Radio-b> if you want to become root, sudo su
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> zamba: yes you will need karmic first
[14:12] <rww> zamba: yes
[14:12] <xfact> I was wondering when the authority will apply this designed testing Ubuntu homepage http://wubuntu.co.cc/ in the main domain? Lucid is released 2 weeks > passed
[14:12] <ffsdftrr> that's stupid, most *commercially successful* distros have root pasword
[14:12] <xfact> ?
[14:13] <rww> xfact: try #ubuntu-website
[14:13] <stevecam> ffsdftrr, its not stupid
[14:13] <ffsdftrr> rhel, sled & their free ripoffs
[14:13] <stevecam> its actually pretty logical
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> ffsdftrr: its a security thing
[14:13] <xfact> rww, Thanks
[14:13] <zamba> ok
[14:13] <stevecam> the root password is randomised i believe
[14:13] <Radio-b> it's a reasonable choice to limit the number of access points into a system
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> ffsdftrr:  get over it.  Its the ubuntu way and not up for debate. The forums and other sites argue the point in 100000+s of pages of details and flamewars
[14:13] <usr13> ffsdftrr: It is not stupid.  It is the way Ubuntu is designed.  It works quite well actually.
[14:13] <sipior> stevecam: it is not.
[14:13] <rww> stevecam: nope. it's just not there.
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> michaelxq: you paste in the box, not the address bar
[14:13] <stevecam> even better
[14:13] <rww> account is disabled.
[14:14] <ffsdftrr> root password is empty, so it cannot login
[14:14] <ondrejk> ffsdftrr: sudo su
[14:14] <stevecam> i dont recall it being disabled, just not there
[14:14] <usr13> ffsdftrr: Never mind.
[14:14] <psi_> hi guys, i have a backup-script in /etc/rc0.d but isnt executed anymore in 10.04 ??? any hints?
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> ffsdftrr: no, the account is disabled so any password you try will fail
[14:14] <tsimpson> ondrejk: sudo -i is easier
[14:14] <lucid_lynx> is it possible to install other OpenOffice.org programs than the ones included in Ubuntu?
[14:14] <Radio-b> psi_, a service it depends on probably changed order
[14:15] <zhxk> bastid_raZor:i see there is realdy a buildin ssh service already?
[14:15] <ffsdftrr> lucid_lynx: do they exist? o_O
[14:15] <stevecam> i thought it was a stupid idea to begin with, but its pretty good
[14:15] <rww> where a password hash would be, there is "!". "!" is not a hash of any password => can't log in
[14:15] <bastid_raZor> zhxk: to ssh out but you will need openssh-server to be able to accept ssh connections
[14:15] <stevecam> prevents attacks from rootkits
[14:15] <psi_> Radio-b: what do you mean?
[14:15] <zhxk> ActionParsnip:the buildin ssh service cant start at boot ?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> michaelxq: or run this command: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; lsusb | pastebinit
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> michaelxq: what is output?
[14:16] <lucid_lynx> ffsdftrr: yes, there are a few other ones too
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> zhxk: openssh-server not installed by default and once it is, it will start at boot
[14:16] <zhxk> bastid_raZor:i see i can ssh in without open-ssh
[14:16] <Pici> lucid_lynx: Such as?
[14:16] <ab94ac> Is there somewhere you can download sound drivers for ubuntu? the sound works but sounds quite terrible and hacks..
[14:16] <lucid_lynx> Pici: the one I am looking for is the one I think is called "OpenOffice.org Math"
[14:16] <zhxk> bastid_raZor:but the connect break, when i logout from gnome
[14:16] <usr13> !sshd zhxk
[14:17] <usr13> !sshd | zhxk
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> lucid_lynx: press ALT+F2   type oomath   press ENTER
[14:17] <Radio-b> Radio-b: something that your backup script depends on is being shut down earlier in lucid, the links in /etc/rc.0|6/
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> lucid_lynx: its part of a standard install
[14:17] <michaelxq> ActionParsnip, installing some packages...
[14:17] <Pici> lucid_lynx: That package is in the repositories.  You should be able to install it using software center, or you could just do: sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-math   on a terminal.
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> lucid_lynx: its the spreadsheet app
[14:17] <psi_> i dont want to run it on reboot, so only rc0.d an the links is S01backup
[14:17] <lucid_lynx> ActionParsnip: okay, thanks, but why isn't it in the main menu then?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> michaelxq: yes the app will allow you to pastebin from command line, much easier
[14:18] <ffsdftrr> ActionParsnip: it's a formula editor actually
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> lucid_lynx: not sure, run alacarte and see what's going on
[14:18] <bastid_raZor> zhxk: look into using 'screen'  .. if you do not fully shutdown just logout, it should stay running in the background .. man screen for more detailed information
[14:18] <Radio-b> psi_: try running the script directly and see what it says
[14:18] <psi_> Radio-b: it works great
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> ffsdftrr: true, i mixed it with calc
[14:18] <geodatma1> hi
[14:18] <psi_> Radio-b: is there a better way to run a shutdown script?
[14:18] <Radio-b> psi_: and it doesn't spit any messages out on shutdown?
[14:19] <ab94ac> somewhere to find sound drivers for ubuntu? the sound works great in win xp :(
[14:19] <lucid_lynx> ActionParsnip: well, I found it - it was just deactivated by default, so I just had to active it and there it was in the main menu :)
[14:19] <michaelxq> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/5p83We14
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> lucid_lynx: top job :)
[14:19] <psi_> Radio-b: some warnings but its okay, its a selfwritten php script to exec rsync
[14:19] <tesseracter> how do i stop the 10.04 boot at grub?
[14:19] <michaelxq> ActionParsnip, sorry for the delay...i'm new at this!!
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> ab94ac: run: sudo lshw -C sound; lspci | grep -i audio
[14:19] <usr13> tesseracter: Esc
[14:19] <chalet16> I have already remove xorg.conf and then start and my screen resolution go to 1024x768 (normally 1280x800) and xrandr show
[14:19] <stevecam> what is the *nix equivalent to Adobe Illustrator?
[14:19] <chalet16> "Screen 0: minimum 800 x 600, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768
[14:19] <chalet16> default connected 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
[14:19] <chalet16>    1024x768       61.0*
[14:19] <chalet16>    800x600        61.0
[14:19] <chalet16> "
[14:19] <FloodBot3> chalet16: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:20] <DJones> tesseracter: If you hold the shift key down while grub is starting, you should get the grub menu coming up
[14:20] <Pici> stevecam: inkscape is a popular vector paint tool.
[14:20] <psi_> Or is there a "rc.local.shutdown" ?
[14:20] <ffsdftrr> stevecam: inkscape, but it's not an analog sadly
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> michaelxq: ok so it's ID is 05ca:183b  and is a R5U870 lets see what guides we can find
[14:20] <usr13> chalet16: What monitor do you have?
[14:20] <Radio-b> psi_: my best guess is that php is getting killed somewhere downstream
[14:20] <ffsdftrr> it's awful
[14:21] <Radio-b> psi_: or any of the processes invokved
[14:21] <stevecam> i seem to have trouble getting inkscape to work properly
[14:21] <ab94ac> ActionParsnip, that just showed a list of stuff from my hw
[14:21] <chalet16> @usr13 It's a laptop monitor
[14:21] <ab94ac> didn't install any driver, sound still sounds very "echo"
[14:21] <usr13> chalet16: It appears that the monitor is not being detected as it should.  Are you using a KVM switch? or... something...?
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> ab94ac: now you know how linux sees it you can find guides using those texts
[14:21] <ffsdftrr> does lsmod shows all the kernel stuff needed for my system to work?
[14:21] <psi_> Radio-b: thanks, ill try to make some tests on it. But it workd good a long time starting with 8.04
[14:21] <usr13> chalet16: oh sorry....
[14:21] <chalet16> @usr13 Before it work normally
[14:22] <usr13> chalet16: You can try:  sudo xorg -configure
[14:22] <stevecam> it is not snapping properly
[14:22] <oobe> 我希望看您的阴道
[14:22] <chalet16> @usr13 command not found
[14:22] <oobe> #spider-man
[14:22] <ffsdftrr> !zh
[14:23] <chalet16> @usr13 I think you mean Xorg ?
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> michaelxq: doesnt look like an easy one: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/DkmsDriverPackage
[14:23] <usr13> chalet16: You can try:  sudo Xorg -configure
[14:23] <simar>  what to remove in synaptic package manager for removing old ubuntu kernel images???  please help
[14:23] <Omar87> Hi all
[14:23] <oobe> ty ffatman
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> michaelxq: seems it needs the r5u870ze module
[14:23] <ffsdftrr> simar: linux-image-2.<digits>
[14:23] <chalet16> @usr13
[14:23] <chalet16> @usr13 ok thanks I will go to try
[14:23] <oobe> i dont speak chinese im just copying and pasting it from babelfish
[14:23] <maco> simar: you can use computer janitor to clean up old kernel images, among other things
[14:23] <rionstrife> hi all
[14:24] <simar> maco thats a good idea..
[14:24] <Omar87> I'm trying to install Plone 4, but the installation keeps failing, is say it failed to locate the zlib module. How do I fix that?
[14:24] <rionstrife> can i ask u something?my kernel is read only and can u tell me how to remounting my box
[14:24] <Omar87> says*
[14:24] <rionstrife> because i want to edit my fstab but i cant (read only state)
[14:24] <ffsdftrr> Omar87: try install libzlib-dev or something like it
[14:24] <michaelxq> ActionParsnip, i've tried to install that file but nothing happens
[14:24] <zhxk> ActionParsnip:why apt-get install openssh while there have a ssh already?
[14:24] <michaelxq> ActionParsnip, i mean before..
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> zhxk: it's openssh-server
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> michaelxq: this is slightly clearer: http://www.palmix.org/r5u870-en.html
[14:25] <Radio-b> stevecam: InkScape is a vector drawing app that might do the job
[14:25] <oobe> 我嬉戏的上午傻和
[14:25] <Radio-b> stevecam: there's really no equivalent though
[14:25] <Omar87> ffsdftrr, it doesn't exist in the repos.
[14:25] <linenoise> How do you make changes to /etc/security/limits.conf stick and show up in a user shell?  specifically open file limits?
[14:25] <manohar> can i install gibber in ubuntu 8.04?
[14:25] <stevecam> Radio-b, do you have a problem with the snapping?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> !info gibber
[14:25] <usr13> rionstrife: mount -o rw,remount /what/ever
[14:26] <DJones> rionstrife: You need to use the sudo command to prefix your edit command, eg "sudo nano /etc/fstab" or "gksudo gedit /etc/fstab"
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> manohar: doesnt exist in lucid...
[14:26] <ffsdftrr> Omar87: zlib1g-dev it is
[14:26]  * maco hands ActionParsnip a w
[14:26] <manohar> sorry its gwibber
[14:26] <zhxk> ActionParsni:why ? i can ssh in without apt-get install anything
[14:26] <oobe> #spider-man
[14:26] <maco> !info gwibber | manohar
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> maco: i assume noting :)
[14:26] <ActionParsnip> !info gwibber hardy
[14:26] <michaelxq> ActionParsnip, thank you for your time...i'll try and let you know
[14:26] <Radio-b> stevecam: I haven't used it myself. I just know it exists. Not much experience with illustrator or vector apps, sadly.
[14:26] <stevecam> thank you guys anyways
[14:27] <Omar87> ffsdftrr, I already have that.
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> manohar: maco: add this PPA: https://launchpad.net/~gwibber-team/+archive/ppa  it has gwibber for hardy
[14:27] <maco> manohar: its in jaunty, karmic, and lucid
[14:27] <manohar> ubottu, can i install it if i want it?
[14:27] <maco> ActionParsnip: *confused* why would i care?
[14:27] <maco> my computer's going to maverick soon!
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> maco: just an interesting tidbit for you
[14:27] <rionstrife> usr13:thanks it works
[14:28] <manohar> maco: i saw in wiki it tells its not supported in hardy
[14:28] <Omar87> ActionParsnip, sorry to interfere, but you typed "gibber" instead of "gwibber" back there.
[14:28] <ffsdftrr> does lsmod shows all the kernel stuff needed for my system to work?
[14:28] <Omar87> !info gwibber
[14:28] <Radio-b> manohar: you can install gwibber, but it would have to be built from source
[14:28] <maco> manohar: thats why the PPA ActionParsnip mentioned exists
[14:28] <rionstrife> maybe it out of question
[14:28] <usr13> ffsdftrr: you might be looking for dmesg
[14:28] <maco> Radio-b: no you dont. theres a PPA
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Omar87: I know, so did the user asking
[14:28] <tar-> bah.. i totally wrecked my mysql-installation, now it won't work no matter what i do :/
[14:28] <rionstrife> but anyone know about vpon vp100?
[14:28] <linenoise> How do you make changes to /etc/security/limits.conf stick and show up in a user shell?  specifically open file limits?
[14:28] <simar> Hey what is difference between linux kernel image and linux kernel headers???
[14:29] <Omar87> ActionParsnip, I see.
[14:29] <ffsdftrr> usr13: no I need to know all kernel modules needed for my system and drop everything else
[14:29] <linenoise> Seriously.    No, I refuse to believe that it can't be done.
[14:29] <ffsdftrr> usr13: so what is not loaded can be removed from kernel safely?
[14:30] <inoh> hi there
[14:30] <maco> manohar: listen to what ActionParsnip said. go to https://launchpad.net/~gwibber-team/+archive/ppa
[14:30] <zhxk> how to check current init level?
[14:30] <linenoise> ActionParsnip: That means that no user process can have more than 1024 open files + connections
[14:30] <linenoise> ActionParsnip: Which means there are NO UBUNTU DISTROS RUNNING ORACLE
[14:30] <linenoise> ActionParsnip: which is BS
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> linenoise: well its free to try
[14:30] <simar> can i have linux running, without headers ???
[14:30] <manohar> maco, ok
[14:30] <maco> zhxk: if you havent run "telinit" yet, its 2
[14:30] <ffsdftrr> simar: yes
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> simar: i believe its a dep of the kernl to have its eaders around the place
[14:30] <usr13> ffsdftrr: I'm not sure what you are getting at?  Are you wanting to build a leaner kernel?
[14:31] <linenoise> Wow.
[14:31] <ffsdftrr> usr13: exactly
[14:31] <zhxk> how can i manage services to be run on diffrent init level?
[14:31] <Pici> !runlevels | zhxk
[14:31] <manohar> ActionParnship: i am at ur link
[14:32] <manohar> ActionParnship: which one to download
[14:32] <ffsdftrr> oh my god!!! there's new kernel today, are they mad??
[14:32] <krazykrivda> can I not change permissions of something if it is on a seperate partition?  if i can .. what are the filesystemtypes that wont' work w/ it?
[14:32] <linenoise> and I'm done with ubuntu.  Best of luck.
[14:32] <ffsdftrr> it's a week since release and 2 kernel updates already
[14:32] <zhxk> how to manage services on rc.number/ ?
[14:32] <ZykoticK9> krazykrivda, you can't change permission on Windows based file systems (FAT/NTFS)
[14:32] <FoolsRun> So Unity looks neat; is it eventually going to replace the current UNE environment?
[14:32] <manohar> ActionParnship: 0.9.2 or 1.0.1
[14:33] <simar> ffsdftrr, why so many updates of kernels ???
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> manohar: not sure, i dont use it
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> simar:  i would guess.. to fix bugs found.
[14:33] <ffsdftrr> simar: bugs and security vulnerabilities mostly
[14:33] <zhxk> how to manage services on rc.1, rc.2, rc.3 .../ ?
[14:33] <zhxk> how to manage services on rc.1, rc.2, rc.3 ... ?
[14:33] <usr13> ffsdftrr: Ubuntu is fast-track.
[14:33] <simar> ok fine ..
[14:33] <Dr_Willis> !sysv | zhxk
[14:33] <FoolsRun> Simultaneous question: any chance the recent keyring update fixes unlocking the keyring with autologin?
[14:33] <manohar> ActionParnship: anyways thanx
[14:33] <acuster> !seen bryceh
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> zhxk:  read up on the 'sysv' init system.. but ubuntu dosent really use the rc# stuff exctpe for rc2
[14:34] <ZykoticK9> FoolsRun, no - that's a "feature" not a bug
[14:34] <Pici> zhxk: Please READ the responses from ubottu.  We do not use the sysv init system in Ubuntu.
[14:34] <maco> Dr_Willis: ubuntu doesnt use sysv anyway...
[14:34] <zhxk> Pici:whats the alternative?
[14:34] <Pici> zhxk: upstart.
[14:34] <FoolsRun> ZykoticK9: the fact that there's a big "cannot contact keyring process" (or something like that) error when trying to use the keyring with autologin is a feature?
[14:34] <Pici> zhxk:  http://upstart.ubuntu.com/
[14:34] <zhxk> Pici:how to do with upstart?
[14:35] <chalet16> @usr13 I have look at log and it tell that KMS not enabled
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> maco:  sell theres still some serices launched by  upstart from the rc.#  dirs. but thats getting fewer with each release. :) which is good.
[14:35] <FoolsRun> ZykoticK9: because autologin is pretty much broken as it stands
[14:35] <ZykoticK9> FoolsRun, oh sorry - that's not the usual autologin/keyring thing - sorry not sure about your issue.
[14:35] <FoolsRun> ZykoticK9: ah. No worries.
[14:35] <ffsdftrr> can anyone tell tha difference between _generic_ and _virtual_ kernel?
[14:35] <chalet16> @usr13 look like it's currently use failsafe driver ?
[14:35] <FoolsRun> I guess I can try it to find out :)
[14:36] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[14:36] <Nictron86> hello
[14:36] <usr13> chalet16: gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[14:36] <inoh> i recently upgraded to lucid.  i am trying to install the latest nvidia modules, but it tells me can'f find kernel source tree.  install kernel source file.  i can't remember the command to do that.  does anyone know the command?
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> inoh:  why are  You not using the nvidia drivers from the repositories?
[14:36] <ZykoticK9> FoolsRun, FYI even with Autologin, you'll (by default) have to type a password if you have encrypted wifi
[14:36] <chalet16> @usr13 nothing happen
[14:37] <jrib> inoh: system -> admin -> hardware drivers
[14:37] <Reckon> afternoon!
[14:37] <ffsdftrr> inoh: try to install linux-headers metapackage
[14:37] <DingGGu> boot window :)
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> FoolsRun:  you can set a empty/blanlk password for your keyring so wifi auto-connects
[14:37] <usr13> dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[14:37] <expliteSU> halo
[14:37] <maco> usr13: that hasnt done anything in years
[14:37] <inoh> Dr_Willis:  the drivers from nvidia website work better
[14:37] <maco> usr13: like, since 2007
[14:37] <expliteSU> hei
[14:37] <expliteSU> coy
[14:37] <expliteSU> boy
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> inoh:  good luck then.. its very possible they may not work at all
[14:38] <expliteSU> su
[14:38] <chalet16> @usr13 nothing happen again
[14:38] <jrib> inoh: they are the exact same drivers...
[14:38] <chalet16> @usr13 I'm currenly in failsafe mode
[14:38] <usr13> chalet16: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xorg.conf
[14:38] <maco> usr13: that doesnt do anything
[14:38] <evident> hi everybody... can anybody tell me how i can disable the sound the Gnome Login Screen makes when booting? It just makes a litte "Da-Dum". Even if I have my sound muted when logged in it still plays that noise... Is  there any way to turn it off?
[14:38] <inoh> Dr_Willis:  nvidia works pretty closely with linux on this stuff
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> jrib:  i was thinking that also.. but wasent sure of the version #'s
[14:38] <chalet16> Package `xorg.conf' is not installed and no info is available.
[14:38] <inoh> 195.36.24 is the latest
[14:38] <jrib> inoh: simply because something is more difficult or complicated to do does not make it better
[14:38] <FoolsRun> ZykoticK9: I read a thing about editing /etc/pam.d/gdm-autologin to match /etc/pam.d/gdm to automagically unlock the keyring. That's what I'm attempting.
[14:38] <inoh> repository has 195.36.18
[14:39] <maco> chalet16: i think usr13 is getting confused. dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg *used to* let you change drivers.... back in 2007
[14:39] <inoh> jrib:  not being difficult, had to do all this stuff with karmic as well
[14:39] <usr13> chalet16: sudo X -configure
[14:39] <jrib> inoh: not if you use Hardware Drivers
[14:40] <usr13> chalet16: sudo X -configure [Does that work?]
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> evident: sudo apt-get --purge remove ubuntu-sounds
[14:40] <chalet16> @usr13 I have done that and get error (EE) [drm] KMS not enabled
[14:40] <chalet16> and I have to use failsafe mode now
[14:40] <ZykoticK9> chalet16, if you want an xorg.conf file you might want to see http://sites.google.com/site/alucidfs/how-i-do/create-an-xorg-conf-file
[14:40] <FoolsRun> Whomever is having nvidia issues: if it's an issue of resolution, there's an nvidia reconfigure command that fixed it for me... I don't remember what ti was. Something like nvidia-reconfigure
[14:41] <ori> Question: How do I extract a .7z file?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> FoolsRun: sudo nvidia-xconfig    maybe?
[14:41] <jrib> !7z | ori
[14:41] <BluesKaj> evident, look in notifications to disable those annoying sounds
[14:41] <FoolsRun> ActionParsnip: that was it
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> ori: sudo apt-get install p7*
[14:41] <ori> actionparsnip: i just enter that into the terminal?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> ori: you can now use: 7z x file.7z    or use fileroller
[14:41] <Kane_Hart> Is ubuntu more GUI/user friendly less server friendly or is ubuntu great still for datacenter server?
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> ori: yes, you need to install the 7zip stff
[14:42] <siriusly> Guys in Lucid if I want to install KDE what do I install kde-minimal?
[14:42] <FoolsRun> ActionParsnip, or whomever is having the problem: my issue was with resolution on a media-center PC. Running nvidia-xconfig made all resolutinos available.
[14:42] <jrib> Kane_Hart: ubuntu works great as a server (see ubuntu server edition)
[14:42] <usr13> chalet16: May need to remove the Nvidia driver.
[14:42] <geekphreak> hello all
[14:42] <ori> actionparsnip: ok did it. now what?
[14:42] <inoh> i was being told module erro: 0 at startup, driver not found, had to restart xserver.  came across the forums stating that you dont need xserver in lucid and so it was removed
[14:42] <geekphreak> bastid_raZor: morning
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> ori: sudo apt-get install p7zip*   is better
[14:42] <chalet16> @usr13 I have already remove it
[14:42] <bastid_raZor> geekphreak: morning
[14:42] <chalet16> I will going try something myself and will comeback soon
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> ori: then you can open the archive in fileroller using nautilus or the command: 7z x file.7z
[14:43] <inoh> but resolution is still off a little
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> FoolsRun: thats because it makes an xorg.conf the tried and tested way of configuring video and other stuff
[14:43] <inoh> i fixed this problem in karmic by installing latest modules from nvidia
[14:44] <michaelxq> ActionParsnip, thank you very much...
[14:44] <ori> actionparsnip: so im gonna do this: sudo apt-get install p7zip-full
[14:44] <jrib> inoh: what you are saying doesn't make much sense.  You removed xserver?
[14:45] <FoolsRun> ActionParsnip: also either my videocard or TV is terrible at reading or transmitting EDID information. It only recognizes the TV by name every third boot or so.
[14:45] <ori> actionparsnip: ok?
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> ori: sudo apt-get install p7zip*
[14:45] <michaelxq> ActionParsnip, it works but i can't edit module to make some changes
[14:46] <Cube``> im trying to copy my home folder. when i view it in nautilus, it says its 10gb big. when i analyze it (with disc usage analyzer) it says its 10gb as well. but when i try to copy it, it's still preparing the operation and is at 40gb already. :(:(:(
[14:46] <remoteCTRL> !dvd
[14:46] <ori> actionparsnip: thanx
[14:46] <ffsdftrr> how can I make grub2 menu always showing, without shiftpressing maddness
[14:46] <Samus_Aran> how can I set the default version of Python to be used by Ubuntu ?  currently it is using 3.x and I want it to use 2.5, so apps referring to "#!/usr/bin/env python" actually work.
[14:46] <zhxk> how to make /etc/init.d/ssh start run at boot?
[14:47] <geekphreak> zhxk: hello
[14:47] <TuGa> does anyone know on ubu 10.04 how can i disable cupsd, anyone? thks
[14:47] <jrib> Samus_Aran: 3.x is not the default version of python in any ubuntu version
[14:47] <geekphreak> zhxk:  can you open terminal please
[14:47] <zhxk> geekphreak>:yes
[14:47] <Samus_Aran> zhxk: first, check which runlevel you are in (type in "runlevel") then add a symlink for it in /etc/initN.d/ where the "N" is the runlevel number
[14:47] <geekphreak> TuGa:  you too please , both have same option
[14:47] <WillGill> Anyone know how to copy inline html images in evolution
[14:48] <zhxk> geekphreak:n 2
[14:48] <respire> I want to make a screencast tutorial hiding as much of my normal panels and icons as possible. Whats the best way to do this?
[14:48] <geekphreak> zhxk: sudo apt-get install rcconf., then run sudo rcconf  to enable/dsiable service
[14:48] <Vigo> Samus_Aran: Did you remove Python or Py3 ?
[14:48] <TuGa> ok opened
[14:48] <Samus_Aran> jrib: okay, 2.6.1 apparently, but there are only modules for 2.4 and 2.5
[14:48] <respire> Also, I will want to edit that screencast to clip out any mistakes I make, whats the best program for that
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> Cube``: you have hidden config folders which store settings for apps. You can reduce this with bleachbit, close as many apps as you can
[14:48] <jrib> Samus_Aran: modules for what?
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> respire: set the panels to autohide
[14:48] <Samus_Aran> Vigo: sorry, I assume 3.x, but it's 2.6.x that isn't working
[14:48] <Samus_Aran> *assumed
[14:49] <respire> cant i just kill them and tell them to stay dead
[14:49] <WillGill> respire: "shoot" in a  virtual machine then use avidemux to edit
[14:49] <respire> not enough diskspace but good idea
[14:49] <Samus_Aran> jrib: I'm on an older Ubuntu version (8.10 if I recall) and some recentish updates have broken a number of Python apps.  in this case python-wxversion only has 2.4 and 2.5 modules, but not one for 2.6
[14:49] <chalet16> Thanks everyone  it's work now.
[14:49] <Vigo> Samus_Aran: Have you ever used the Residential Config in Synaptic?
[14:50] <chalet16> I reverted thing that I have done in http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> respire: try uninstalling some old kernels and/or apps you no longer use
[14:50] <jrib> !8.10 | Samus_Aran
[14:50] <Samus_Aran> zhxk: rcconf is a handy tool, and I was going to recommend it.  :)  it sets up the symlinks for you, you only need to know which runlevel you are in
[14:50] <ZykoticK9> respire, is something mounted in ~/.gvfs by chance?
[14:50] <Samus_Aran> zhxk: but it doesn't hurt to look in /etc/rc3.d/ or whatever to familiarise yourself with how it all works
[14:50] <jrib> Samus_Aran: seems strange (from memory) that default python is 2.6 there, but in any case 8.10 is eol
[14:50] <simar> can i  use desktop effects in ubuntu 10.04 without nvidia ??
[14:51] <respire> ive got lots of custom panels and launchers that do fun things, can I save their config somehow then just nuke it back to ubuntu default
[14:51] <respire> like some files in the .config dir
[14:51] <Cube``> ActionParsnip: no, but i want these folders to be copied! thats why im doing it in the first place. but why arent they counted when nautilus analyzes the folders, and why the heck are they 30gb? :P thanks for your answers
[14:51] <zhxk> geekphreak:i see rcconf, its good, how to conf it on diffrent runlevel?
[14:51] <ZykoticK9> Cube``, is something mounted in ~/.gvfs by chance?  (sorry respire)
[14:51] <Samus_Aran> jrib: I'll be updating to 10.04 soon, via clean install.  I am aware that it's old, I'm just wondering how one goes about setting the default python version ?  or should I just us mv on the files in /usr/bin ?
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> Cube``: because they are hidden, if you press ctrl+ they will be visible
[14:52] <Cube``> ActionParsnip: ctrl+?
[14:52] <Cube``> ZykoticK9: how to check?
[14:52] <ZykoticK9> Cube``, cd ~/.gvfs
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> Cube``: you most likely have a tonne of temporary interet files and java cache guff as well as some flash anim files cluttering up the place
[14:52] <bastid_raZor> Cube``: ctrl + h
[14:52] <zhxk> geekphreak:how to conf services to run before login to gnome?
[14:52] <jrib> Samus_Aran: you shouldn't change the default python version.  Many scripts that are used by the operating system need the default python version to be what it is and stuff will likely break.  If you need to have some particular script run with 2.5, just use env python2.5 (python2.5 should be in the repositories)
[14:53] <respire> ZykoticK9, gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/me/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=me)
[14:53] <geekphreak> zhxk: 1 sec
[14:53] <WillGill> respire: I am too much of a noob to know exactly how, but it seams plausible maybe gnome.conf
[14:53] <Pici> zhxk: ssh will automatically start if you install it from the repositories, there is no configuration that you need to do beyond that.
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> Cube``: bleachbit can help clean the files down, watch the browser options as there is an option to delete passwords etc (if you store them) and avoid the options wich say they will take a long time
[14:53] <ZykoticK9> respire, whatever is mounted there will also be included in your copy of ~
[14:53] <nelsondiaze> #blender_es
[14:53] <respire> ZykoticK9, i didnt grok
[14:53] <Pici> geekphreak, Samus_Aran: Please stop suggesting to use sysv-style init scripts.  We do not use the sysv init system anymore, we are using upstart.
[14:53] <nelsondiaze> #blender-es
[14:53] <zhxk> Pici:ssh wont starup untill i login to desktop
[14:54] <Samus_Aran> jrib: well, the point is kind of that some apps broke as the result of 2.6 being installed or set to default.  I've run into this problem twice now, where modules don't exist for 2.6, so I wanted to fix future occurances as well
[14:54] <Cube``> ZykoticK9: yeah, the samba share im trying to copy everything to is mounted there lol. but it gives me an error trying to copy that directory so i press skip everytime
[14:54] <progre55> hi people! I use Java under linux (k/ubuntu), but I have a couple of DLL libraries that I need to load in order to run a certain project. Is it somehow possible? on windows, I could just include those DLLs on the Path environment variable..
[14:54] <respire> Pici, except that doesn't seem true cause when i wanted to stop a service starting i had to remove the link from the SysV directory
[14:54] <Vigo> jrib: Good call, could'nt Aran also use or dpkg and have two Python versions, one for the work now and the other for the stable kernel?
[14:54] <respire> so maybe upstart isn't a script but it seems to work a lot like sysv
[14:55] <Samus_Aran> Pici: I am not familiar with upstart, have a link handy that explains it ?
[14:55] <Pici> zhxk: If you are using a wireless connection then networking will not start until you have logged into gnome.  I assure you that ssh will always start automatically if you install it from the repos.
[14:55] <Cube``> ActionParsnip: and see, i do understand the whole concept of hidden folders aka .folders . but still, why is nautilus not counting them!?
[14:55] <jrib> Vigo: sure, python should point to whatever ubuntu expects default to be.  Then there are additional binaries like python2.5, python2.4, and python2.6 that can hang around
[14:55] <Radio-b> !upstart
[14:55] <jrib> Samus_Aran: are you positive that python2.6 was not always the default.  I really doubt that would change in an update
[14:56] <Vigo> jrib: That rather makes sense to me and seems like a good resolution.
[14:56] <zhxk> Pici:ok, it should be connection problems
[14:56] <Samus_Aran> Radio-b: thanks
[14:56] <mwd> Im am using empathy in lucid. In chat-rooms empathy is always auto-scrolling. How can I disable this behaviour?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> Cube``: not sure dude
[14:57] <cardozini> hi!
[14:57] <WillGill> anyone know how to copy and paste inline html images in evolution
[14:57] <goldins> Hi, I just upgraded to Lucid and I lost all USB devices (including keyboard and mouse). I have sshd to the machine and lsusb comes back null. How do I fix it?
[14:57] <manohar> i installed gwibber in hardy just now from PPA instructions... but has problems starting GUI... No menu is available and when starting from terminal it gives few errors
[14:57] <cardozini> how do i reset my seahorse
[14:57] <Cube``> ActionParsnip: ok.
[14:57] <komisch> hi
[14:57] <Samus_Aran> jrib: all I know is that an app I've been using for years no longer loads (because it needs 2.4 or 2.5, not 2.6) and that my own app I was creating with PyGame also wouldn't work on 2.6, as there are again modules only for 2.4 and 2.5
[14:58] <krazykrivda> can I not change permissions of something if it is on a seperate partition?  if i can .. what are the filesystemtypes that wont' work w/ it?
[14:58] <harry-houdini1> can anyone tell me what the command is in the xorg.conf to get compiz to show the top bar of individual windows
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> goldins: try: sudo rmmod usbhid; sleep 5; sudo modprobe usbhid
[14:58] <harry-houdini1> and not hide them behind the task menu
[14:59] <ffsdftrr> krazykrivda: not on external harddrive usually
[14:59] <ffsdftrr> krazykrivda: actually you can, but they are overridden with mount options
[15:00] <Samus_Aran> goldins: not sure why that happened, but try loading the kernel modules: for Mod in usbcore hid usbhid; do sudo modprobe "$Mod"; done
[15:00] <jrib> Samus_Aran: see if you can replicate this behavior on a supported version. You mentioned wx but it certainly works with 2.6
[15:00] <cardozini> how do i reset my seahorse password
[15:00] <respire> ZykoticK9, I am not an ubuntu or gnome guru nor do i have the time to learn i have a LOT of work to do and most of it isn't IT so can you give me the short course?
[15:01] <respire> ZykoticK9, ls: cannot access /home/me/.gvfs: Permission denied  ----- WTF
[15:01] <krazykrivda> ffsdftrr: i've symlinked /home/me/Downloads to a partition on the harddrive so al files are linked in either dualboot, but when i try to change permissions etc.. nothing works unless i move to a none symlinked partition (the system type is Fat32)
[15:01] <Samus_Aran> jrib: as I said, I'm on 8.10, and some update within the last month or so caused it to switch to a default of 2.6 Python, which has broke many apps.  I'll go poke at it manually until I upgrade to 10.04, thanks.
[15:01] <Samus_Aran> respire: that is not a normal file
[15:01] <ZykoticK9> respire, I'm so sorry - i kept getting you wand Cube`` confused -- but i was always *trying and failing* to message Cube`` -- so sorry to confuse
[15:01] <blueking> anyone here up on IBM blades ?
[15:02] <respire> ZykoticK9, ok no worries
[15:02] <_6i> hi everyone
[15:02] <jamshoot> hi there
[15:02] <respire> Samus_Aran, what IS it?
[15:02] <rsk> blueking yea what about it?
[15:02] <jrib> Samus_Aran: as I said, I really doubt an update would change the default python version.  I can't obtain too much info about intrepid however as I don't have an intrepid install and the online tools drop unsupported versions
[15:02] <blueking> rsk can you help me with a js22 blade ?
[15:02] <Samus_Aran> respire: I *think* it's something Gnome uses
[15:02] <rsk> blueking how?
[15:02] <FoolsRun> Could someone with a fresh install of Lucid check something for me? I think I might have found part of my keyring problem
[15:02] <blueking> I have various questions
[15:02] <jacopo> hey
[15:02] <jacopo> gt
[15:02] <jacopo> gt
[15:02] <FloodBot2> jacopo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:02] <jacopo> gt
[15:03] <zhxk>  Pici:i checked its network problem, and fixed it now, thank you
[15:03] <Pici> zhxk: good :)
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> FoolsRun: sure, wassup
[15:03] <cardozini> how do i reset my seahorse password everytime i bootup i have to insert manualy the wireless wep key, and a new key for the seahorse
[15:03] <jrib> Samus_Aran: if you have a broken system already and don't really care if it breaks more I guess you can mess with /usr/share/python/debian_defaults ... (caveat emptor)
[15:03] <Samus_Aran> respire: I would guess Gnome Virtual FileSystem, but I don't use Gnome and that's just a guess based on the acronym.  check what type of file it is (ls -l)
[15:03] <Vigo> FoolsRun: Did you md5 check it?
[15:03] <FoolsRun> ActionParsnip:  System/Preferences/Startup Applications/Certificate and Key Storage  What is the full command in a non-upgraded Lucid?
[15:04] <bushbaby> cardozini: If you leave the password feild blank it should boot without asking for it again.
[15:04] <Samus_Aran> jrib: I'll probably just edit the broken app to use 2.5, seems safest after you've scared me about changing the system default
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> FoolsRun: gnome-keyring-daemon --start --components=pkcs11
[15:04] <Samus_Aran> though I don't see what apps would *need* from 2.6 over 2.5
[15:04] <avis> i can't install amazon mp3 downloader on lucid.  i found the selection in the ubuntu store to be lacking in songs that i'd like to buy.
[15:04] <jamshoot> I have ubuntu 9.10, usb flash drive, winxp .iso image. Goal is instal winxp form usb. So, how to do it? How to create winxp-usb?
[15:05] <jrib> Samus_Aran: I would just install 10.04 and be done with it
[15:05] <Pseudocrat> How would you make a key in authorized_keys be able to use only a specified shell, /usr/bin/nologin?
[15:05] <usr13> chalet16: did you get it yet?
[15:05] <FoolsRun> ActionParsnip: damn. I thought I'd found the problem "Error communicating with gnome-keyring-daemon"  problem.
[15:05] <_6i> hi, i'm experiencing  problems with grub (lucid, not upgraded from karmic):
[15:05] <Vigo> jamshot: Look at Pendrive
[15:05] <chalet16> usr13: yes
[15:05] <cardozini> bushbaby, the problem is that it doesn't save my wep password.... although it askes me everytime for it...
[15:05] <chalet16> usr13: thanks a lot
[15:05] <Samus_Aran> jrib: not that simple, unfortunately.  this system is an NFS server to other computers in the house, and it's also an Internet server, and it's also a multiseat desktop.  so downtime ruins a lot of people's days.  :p
[15:05] <cardozini> it's so bothering...
[15:05] <usr13> chalet16: Very good.
, ok, thx
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> FoolsRun: is it running?
[15:06] <ffsdftrr> krazykrivda: fat32 pemissions are set on mount, with umask and dmask options
[15:06] <Samus_Aran> jrib: I'll probably do the update this weekend at 2:AM or something so nobody's using any of it
[15:06] <Vigo> jamsboot: http://www.pendriveapps.com/
[15:06] <mwd> Im am using empathy in lucid. In chat-rooms empathy is always auto-scrolling, even when I manually scroll up. How can I disable this behaviour?
[15:06] <bushbaby> cardozini: I had the same problem and the WEP key requests went away at the same time..
[15:06] <FoolsRun> ActionParsnip: with autologin this seems to be a common issue. The daemon is running but it can't be communicated with. Searching "Error communicating with gnome-keyring-daemon"  returns a ton of people with the same issue.
[15:07] <Wavesonics> can i get gnome to snap my desktop icons to a grid?
[15:07] <ZykoticK9> krazykrivda, having you home folder on FAT32 probably isn't the best idea
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> FoolsRun: i use autologin, all good here but i always clean install
[15:07] <_6i> after shutdown and sometimes after reboot, too, instead of the grub boot menu, it throws me right to the console
[15:07] <Samus_Aran> well, goodnight allveryone.  thanks for the help jrib et all
[15:07] <krazykrivda> ffsdftrr: i'm not sure what you mean (i'm fairly new) but i've set up in fstab to automount
[15:07] <FoolsRun> ActionParsnip: disabling autologin fixes the issue, but that's not ideal for, say, my wife or my mediacenter PC.
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> krazykrivda: fat32 in general is bad, its not robust
[15:07] <krazykrivda> ZykoticK9: not whole home folder.. just videos/music/docs/downloads
[15:08] <Samus_Aran> krazykrivda: I forgot to say, FAT32 by default doesn't support Unix style permissions.  if you want this, then use UMSDOS or whatever it's called, which overlays Unix-style permissions onto a FAT filesystem
[15:08] <ZykoticK9> krazykrivda, ahhh
[15:08] <FoolsRun> ActionParsnip: does your keyring auto unlock, or do you have to unlock it at login?
[15:08] <krazykrivda> ZykoticK9: ahhh.. = bad? or you understand?
[15:08] <sysRPL> hello
[15:08] <ZykoticK9> krazykrivda, just meant "i understand now"
[15:08] <Samus_Aran> krazykrivda: also notable is that symlinks are incapable of affecting permissions in any way
[15:08] <sysRPL> how do you move the window close/min/max icons from the top left to the top right of all windows?
[15:09] <Pici> !controls | sysRPL
[15:09] <krazykrivda> Samus_Aran: when trying to run a script or instal l things.. such as .py or .bin.. i can't do anythign if it resides in the symlink folder.. if i move it to desktop it works as expected
[15:09] <Samus_Aran> krazykrivda: they merely point to a file or directory, which may or may not actually exist.  apps will attempt to load the directory referred to by the symlink
[15:09] <umang> sysRPL, you'll have to open gconf-editor and change settings.
[15:09] <HoldenC> erUSUL: thanks for the hint on netconsole, it was easier than i thought. Anyway I reinstalled, disabled the sata controller, and it seems to work fine so far
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> FoolsRun: i use no password, so yes it unlocks ;)
[15:09] <umang> sysRPL, it seems you already got an answer. :P
[15:09] <ubuntu> Hey
[15:09] <Samus_Aran> krazykrivda: you'll need to be clearer than "I can't do anything"
[15:09] <erUSUL> HoldenC: ok glad it helped
[15:10] <Vigo> sysRPL: You can also just pick a different theme.
[15:10] <erUSUL> HoldenC: somewhat at least ....
[15:10] <Samus_Aran> krazykrivda: provide the specific error message(s)
[15:10] <FoolsRun> ActionParsnip: aha. That's half the problem. The "Error communication..." thing still looms, though.
[15:10] <ubuntu> I have a problem with my /home folder.
[15:10] <sysRPL> ty all
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> FoolsRun: i'm not experiencing the same
[15:10] <dr0id> hey guys, my FF cant render lucida grande, i just upgraded to karmic from jaunty, any idea y?
[15:10] <usr13> ubuntu: What is the problem with your /home folder?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> !details | ubuntu
[15:10] <ubuntu> After my pute died while upgrading
[15:11] <ubuntu> it sams locked
[15:11] <FoolsRun> I wish there was a "reset everything as though you fresh-installed" command.
[15:11] <Samus_Aran> seems ?
[15:11] <HoldenC> erUSUL: i'm keeping an eye on the output of netconsole on this machine, if it freezes again let's hope i can catch it
[15:11] <edbian> FoolsRun, Ha ha!!  That would be awesome
[15:11] <krazykrivda> Samus_Aran: for example.. i attempted to run a .py script to change the location of controls... right click and run as executable checkbox is NULLED out in folders that are running on fat32 symlinked directory.. but when i moved it to my desktop.. it worked as I read in instructions
[15:11] <Vigo> FoolsRun: There is
[15:11] <ubuntu> well, I can't copy it when i am using my liveCD
[15:11] <dr0id> ActionParsnip: ?
[15:12] <edbian> Vigo, What is it?
[15:12] <FoolsRun> Vigo: does it involve fresh installing, or are you serious?
[15:12] <usr13> ubuntu: try not to fragment your discussion.  It will be hard for any of us to make any sense if it is scattered out.