[05:22] <trace> crimsun: ok one sec
[05:22] <Jeffrae> scripts/basic/fixdep.c:105:23: error: sys/types.h: No such file or directory
[05:22] <trace> crimsun: ok
[05:22] <crimsun> Jeffrae: you don't have build-essential installed?
[05:22] <Jeffrae> that is where my make-dpgk modules_image goes haywire
[05:23] <Jeffrae> no
[05:23] <crimsun> so install it.
[05:23] <Jeffrae> the instruction did ask for it
[05:23] <Jeffrae> just kernel souce and linux headers
[05:23] <Jeffrae> how do I get build essential?
[05:23] <crimsun> sudo apt-get install build-essential, or use Synaptic
[05:24] <hope> hey room
[05:24] <trace> crimsun: brb
[05:24] <ddg_bluesky> Man I have just had ubuntu up and running for 2 days now , and I just love how easy it is to install stuff - I just love it
[05:24] <Jeffrae> thanks
[05:24] <Jeffrae> this has some more source or something?
[05:25] <Jeffrae> DUDES
[05:25] <Jeffrae> crimsun, That helped
[05:25] <Jeffrae> I wonder why the document didn't state to get this
[05:25] <Jeffrae> oh well
[05:26] <Jeffrae> Maybe I should write the lirc people
[05:27] <bimberi> Jeffrae: is the document an ubuntu one?  if not it probably assumes that the compilers/tools/basic-libraries are already present (usually a safe assumption for linux but not for ubuntu)
[05:27] <Jeffrae> make-dpgk modules_image is asking all sorts of questions not even related to my lirc module
[05:27] <Jeffrae> that is the only module in etc/src/modules
[05:28] <Jeffrae> /usr/src/modules
[05:28] <Misnix> ls -l src/modules
[05:28] <Misnix> ls -l /usr/src/modules
[05:28] <Misnix> oops
[05:29] <Jeffrae> just lirc is there like I said
[05:29] <Jeffrae> it is asking stuff like... BSD Process Accounting (BSD_PROCESS_ACCT) [Y/n/?]  y
[05:29] <tkup> I just had the scare of my life! My system freezed and on reboot, fsck fails on my reiserfs. It died asking for an fsck.reiserfs --rebuild-tree! When the rebuild finished I rebooted and every seems OK now. The hard drive is not making any funny noises or sporadically going on and off. On reboot, I check the log and I noticed two lines: Mar 21 22:01:31 localhost kernel: [4592512.405000]  ReiserFS: warning: is_tree_node: node level 26708
[05:29] <tkup> does not match to the expected one 1
[05:29] <tkup> Mar 21 22:01:31 localhost kernel: [4592512.405000]  ReiserFS: hda1: warning: vs-5150: search_by_key: invalid format found in block 5899228. Fsck?
[05:30] <thomas`> anyone here have problems using ipods on linux?
[05:30] <thomas`> im trying to get some music on here.. but when i use gtkpod it doesnt show up on ipod in the music list at all
[05:30] <rdw200169> you can get an ipod working, it's just a pain in the butt
[05:30] <Drac[Server] > Is it possible to set an Ubuntu user up in such a way that it can't access the "preferences" and "administration" submenus within the "system" menu?
[05:30] <IdleOne> !tell thomas` about ipod
[05:31] <thomas`> if i upload a whole library its like not there..
[05:31] <FliesLikeABrick> Drac[Server]   may I ask why?
[05:31] <crimsun> trace: I need to sleep.
[05:32] <Jeffrae> When compiling a module ie lirc-module how do I use the "sudo make-kpkg modules_image
[05:32] <Jeffrae> " command I am asked tons and tons of questions not even related to lirc.  is there a way around this?
[05:32] <Drac[Server] > FliesLikeABrick, I'm putting my school on Linux. We can't have students playing around with the system configuration. :P
[05:32] <Dr_Willis> Drac[Server] ,  i Know kde has variuous Lockdown modes/methods for that.. Im thinking that Gnome does as well.
[05:32] <FliesLikeABrick> Drac[Server]   its great to hear that a school is using linux ;)
[05:32] <prop2> Exist some kind of "frontend" or GUI to access all documentation installed on a ubuntu system?
[05:32] <FliesLikeABrick> Drac[Server]   i'll browse around for a bit and see if I come up with anything
[05:33] <rdw200169> as long as the users' accounts don't have sudo access, it shouldn't be a problem
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> FliesLikeABrick, there are thousands of school systems around the world switching to Linux
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> it's just safer
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> period.
[05:33] <FliesLikeABrick> i know nomasteryoda  thats why I like hearing about more of them doing it ;)
[05:33] <Drac[Server] > FliesLikeABrick, It's not on Linux just yet. This project is to convince them that they should. :)
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> Exclamation Point!
[05:33] <nomasteryoda> yup
[05:33] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:33] <FliesLikeABrick> nomasteryoda I work at the computing helpdesk for my college.  with luck soon we're going to officially support linux (we don't even officially support macos yet)
[05:34] <protocol1> does anyone know where to get a limewire ready for ubuntu?
[05:34] <nomasteryoda> wow
[05:34] <IamEthos> how can I make Ubuntu ignore my windows partition?
[05:34] <lootpuppy> Can someone please point me to a dcent set of instructions on how to make my computer dual boot Windows XP / Ubuntu? I can find heaps for Red Hat but my GRUB appears to work differently to the one described in the instructions.
[05:34] <FliesLikeABrick> protocol1  limewire is one of those pieces of software that any inteligent computer user wouldn't touch
[05:34] <prop2> Exist some kind of "frontend" or GUI to access all documentation installed on a ubuntu system?
[05:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell lootpuppy about dualboot
[05:34] <IdleOne> !tell lootpuppy about dualboot
[05:35] <FliesLikeABrick> lootpuppy  use partition magic or some other tool to resize your ntfs partition, then just load the ubuntu CD and the rest is self explanitory
[05:35] <Hexidigital> lootpuppy, you can't use partition magic if you have dynamic volumes, however
[05:35] <Jeffrae> Hello has anyone here done make-kpkg modules_image
[05:35] <Jeffrae>   before?
[05:35] <IzeyJr> anyone using dapper yet?
[05:35] <trace> crimsun: back do  need to install something to make the sound work?
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> IzeyJr,   lots of people in #ubuntu+1 are
[05:35] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:35] <protocol1> FliesLikeABrick, what would you reccomend for dl'ing music?
[05:36] <FliesLikeABrick> lootpuppy  the ubuntu install CD detects other operating systems and loads them into grub by default
[05:36] <silvaran> Any howtos for setting up breezy "server" install as a router (nat+firewall, 2 interfaces, pppoe)
[05:36] <prop2> Exist some kind of "frontend" or GUI to access all documentation installed on a ubuntu system?
[05:36] <Eleaf> Humm
[05:36] <Eleaf> I really can't figure out this ftp problem..
[05:36] <IzeyJr> lol okies its pertty stable then
[05:36] <FliesLikeABrick> protocol1 I spend hours every week removing spyware and viruses from the computers of windows users that use limewire
[05:36] <bimberi> Drac[Server] : have a look at pessulus and sabayon
[05:36] <nalioth> prop2: point your web browser toward file:///usr/share/doc/
[05:36] <crimsun> trace: no. Verify that no alsa modules are loaded: lsmod|grep ^snd
[05:36] <crimsun> trace: that should return nothing
[05:37] <FliesLikeABrick> protocol1 of course downloading music is not quite legal, but it is said that bit-torrent is popular enough that it works
[05:37] <Hexidigital> flieslikeabrick, so that means no limewire  :)
[05:37] <Drac[Server] > bimberi, what are those?
[05:37] <venox> how can I make every new file inside a directory to use the chmod 550 and the group "shared"?
[05:37] <crimsun> trace: and I'm very tired, and I'm going to sleep in 5 minutes.
[05:37] <prop2> Exist some kind of "frontend" or GUI to access all documentation installed on a ubuntu system?
[05:37] <protocol1> thanks for the information because...i never installed it on my windowx or linux.....and from what im hearing I dont think I want to
[05:37] <rdw200169> who wants limewire??? just use another gnutella software... its all the same network
[05:37] <trace> crimsun: yea nothng returned
[05:37] <IamEthos> how can I keep ubuntu from mounting partitions on startup?
[05:37] <IdleOne> !tell Hexidigital about frostwire
[05:37] <Drac[Server] > gtk-gnutella. Mmmm.
[05:37] <rdw200169> limewire is just a commercial front end
[05:37] <Hexidigital> idleone, i didnt want it... someone else did
[05:37] <FliesLikeABrick> protocol1  almost any popular windows p2p client is a bad idea
[05:37] <trace> crimsun: ok ty for your help
[05:37] <crimsun> trace: ok, now try ``sudo modprobe snd-cs46xx''
[05:37] <rdw200169> to the gnutella network
[05:37] <Hexidigital> i was only commenting
[05:38] <IdleOne> Hexidigital, then tell them about it :P
[05:38] <protocol1> ok...i got ya
[05:38] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah, sorry protocol1  that i couldn't suggest anything, I don't use p2p much after so many people at my college getting sued by the RIAA
[05:38] <venox> IamEthos, `noauto` flag on /etc/fstab
[05:38] <prop2> Please helpme, I dont know how to see all the documentation installed. I need help.
[05:38] <bimberi> Drac[Server] : sorry breezy only has sabayon (dapper has pessulus)  -  they enable desktop lockdown
[05:38] <FliesLikeABrick> about 2% of my school's population has gotten sued
[05:38] <Hexidigital> well, i didnt' know about frostwire, idleone :)
[05:38] <Hexidigital> i do now
[05:38] <protocol1> heh....
[05:38] <trace> crimsun: ok it returned to prompt
[05:38] <nalioth> prop2: i just told you how to access some of it
[05:38] <Drac[Server] > bimberi, I'm on dapper. :P
[05:38] <crimsun> trace: cat /proc/asound/cards
[05:39] <bimberi> Drac[Server] : both available to you then :)
[05:39] <trace> crimsun: says no sounds cards
[05:39] <IdleOne> p2p isnt only for downloading music and movies there are alot of helpful files that can be downloaded using p2p :)
[05:39] <Jeffrae> hell has anyone done sudo make-kpkg modules_image
[05:39] <Jeffrae>  before?
[05:39] <Drac[Server] > bimberi: Yay! :D
[05:39] <crimsun> trace: ok, unload it, try snd-cs4236 or snd-cs4232
[05:39] <crimsun> trace: I'm off to bed.
[05:39] <Hexidigital> idleone, when i use windows and it crashes, that's were i get all of my .dll files from
[05:39] <prop2> nalioth, thank you
[05:39] <FliesLikeABrick> Drac[Server]   perhaps allow users to change their preferences, just have their /home mounted from a server so that their preferences follow them around the network.  doing that and disallowing sudo access should prevent most problems that come to mind right now
[05:40] <trace> crimsun: ok ty
[05:40] <Hexidigital> !frostwire
[05:40] <trace> crimsun: good nite ;)
[05:40] <Drac[Server] > FliesLikeABrick, I plan to do that, also. This is just for additional safety. :P
[05:40] <syllogism> where does libstdc++ come from? - the gcc* source files?
[05:40] <FliesLikeABrick> well Drac[Server]   without sudo none of those things on the menu can be used to modify any important configuration settings
[05:41] <FliesLikeABrick> IdleOne but unfortunately p2p clients for windows entirely too often are loaded with spyware and back doors (kazaa, limewire, and many others come to mind quickly)
[05:41] <prop2> nalioth, besides the url you give me, there is some tool with a frontend that enable Search features?
[05:41] <Jeffrae> Hello can someone asnwer a "make-kpkg modules_image
[05:41] <Jeffrae> " question?
[05:41] <FliesLikeABrick> IdleOne  even if they have useful files.  plus there are too many viruses that propagate through p2p by posing as useful files
[05:41] <Drac[Server] > FliesLikeABrick, right, but if the computers are supposed to look uniform, kids playing around with the themes and junk wouldn't be a good idea.
[05:41] <FliesLikeABrick> point taken Drac[Server]
[05:41] <FliesLikeABrick> Jeffrae  we are here to answer questions ;)
[05:41] <IdleOne> FliesLikeABrick, that was my legal disclaimer so I dont get sued for promoting p2p :)
[05:41] <Jeffrae> ok
[05:41] <Jeffrae> I am running sudo make-kpkg modules_image
[05:41] <Hexidigital> !dos2unix
[05:41] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, Hexidigital
[05:42] <Jeffrae> I am doing this to compile the lirc-modules-source I got from synaptic
[05:42] <FliesLikeABrick> IdleOne  I doubt there are any representatives of the RIAA and other organizations lurking here looking for targets.
[05:42] <IdleOne> :)
[05:42] <Jeffrae> lirc is the only thing in usr/src/modules directory
[05:42] <Jeffrae> for some reason I get a million one question when executing sudo make-kpkg modules_image
[05:43] <Jeffrae> is there a way to just have it take what is already in place?
[05:43] <Jeffrae> I don't want to change anything
[05:43] <Jeffrae> all I want to do is compile a lirc module
[05:43] <FliesLikeABrick> Drac[Server]   the more I think about it, the more I want to set up a bunch of desktops in my house and play with kerberos and network homes on them ;)
[05:43] <nalioth> prop2: system > help
[05:43] <Drac[Server] > FliesLikeABrick: Hehehe.
[05:44] <bimberi> Hexidigital: try '/msg ubotu find dos2unix'
[05:44] <allen> hey
[05:44] <allen> anyone there?
[05:44] <Jeffrae> am I missing a switch?
[05:44] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell allen about ask
[05:45] <prop2> nalioth, thank you very much!!
[05:45] <FliesLikeABrick> hm, allen just joined, asked if anyone was here, then ran off after being prompted to ask a question
[05:45] <mattt_> how can i install ubuntu on a partition i've already got setup?  i want to dual boot but i don't want ubuntu's installer going any where near the partition table and i don't want it reformatting disks
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> Matt_ clarify "set up"
[05:46] <FliesLikeABrick> mattt_ run the install CD and choose to set up the partitions manually rather than using the guided partitioning
[05:46] <Jeffrae> is there another channel wher eI may want to ask my question?
[05:46] <mattt_> Dr_Willis: it exists, it's got a filesystem
[05:47] <FliesLikeABrick> mattt_ all you have to do is tell it what partition to install on, then it won't change anything.  it will verify before it makes any changes (unlike other proprietary operating systems)
[05:47] <mattt_> hmm
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> mattt_,  so you got an existing filesystem with data on it you want to install ubuntu to?  no 'unallocated' space?
[05:47] <FliesLikeABrick> mattt_ just remember to "configure partitions manually" rather than use guided partitioning.  it is very easy to see how to do it after that
[05:47] <mattt_> Dr_Willis: yeah
[05:48] <mattt_> FliesLikeABrick: yeah, i tried that, but i must have missed something.. then i just tried going to the install menu and skipping the partitioning part.. i saw a dialog come up saying something like "repartitioning disks"
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> mattt_,  Im thinking you are trying to do somthing sort of odd. :)    or you are not explaining somthing very well.
[05:48] <mattt_> nearly had a heart attack :O
[05:48] <mattt_> mashed the reset button :P
[05:48] <FliesLikeABrick> no worries Dr_Willis, I understand him
[05:48] <Jeffrae> can someone help me with make-kpkg modules_image?
[05:48] <Dr_Willis> FliesLikeABrick,  sounds like he wants 2 linux disrtos on the same filesystem/partition. ?
[05:48] <FliesLikeABrick> mattt_  you have to tell it to use that partition, not to format it(it is default not to format), and tell it to mount it at /
[05:48] <mattt_> Dr_Willis: i'm running gentoo, my HD already has a variety of partitions.  i want to install ubuntu on one of those partitions
[05:49] <mattt_> FliesLikeABrick: ok, thanks
[05:49] <tristanmike> mattt_, also read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SmartBootManagerHowto/  for making a boot floppy so you don't write over your mbr
[05:49] <FliesLikeABrick> mattt_ odds are that you forgot to tell it to mount and use as / last time
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> mattt_,  ok - that clear things up. :p
[05:49] <tristanmike> mattt_, that's if you don't want to write over your mbr that is
[05:49] <mattt_> hm
[05:50] <FliesLikeABrick> it sounds like mattt_ understands the logistics of the mbr and what he wants to do, he just needed to know the specifics of how to get it to do what he wanted ;)
[05:50] <mattt_> can i set it up to use my existing grub installation?
[05:50] <mattt_> during the install process, that is
[05:50] <boo> hey, i have a logitech keyboard with play pause, ect buttons on top, is there any way i can use them.
[05:50] <mattt_> FliesLikeABrick: i just needed to make sure i wasn't gonna loose 100+GB of data :P
[05:50] <tristanmike> FliesLikeABrick, that's cool, I misunderstood, I was thinking he didn't want to touch that at all
[05:50] <Jeffrae> can someone help me with make-kpkg modules_image?
[05:50] <FliesLikeABrick> yes mattt_ just tell it not to install grub when it asks.  or mattt_ it is safe to have the ubuntu install grub again as long as the installer finds all the other operating systems
[05:51] <mattt_> snap
[05:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Jeffrae about repeat
[05:51] <FliesLikeABrick> mattt_ it will say "we found these other operating systems : <list of OS here>.  if all your operating systems are shown, it is  most likely safe to isntall grub again"
[05:51] <Jeffrae> sorry
[05:52] <Jeffrae> is there another channel where I may want to ask?
[05:52] <Jeffrae> I have been searching the forums
[05:52] <`Boo`> hey, i have a logitech keyboard with play pause, ect buttons on top, is there any way i can use them.
[05:52] <FliesLikeABrick> Jeffrae  you may ask here, just don't repeant over and over and have a bit of patience
[05:52] <FliesLikeABrick> repeat*
[05:52] <Jeffrae> ok
[05:52] <Jeffrae> sorry dude
[05:52] <FliesLikeABrick> `Boo` what keyboard?
[05:53] <mattt_> yeah.. i got a whacked out booting setup though.  i installed an SATA drive (and hw controller - no onboard support) along side my existing ata drive, but my mobo wouldn't boot from the sata drive.. so i had to setup a boot partition on the ata drive (for grub and kernel), then use the sata as the root drive :P
[05:53] <FliesLikeABrick> `Boo`  see if these results help you out: http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=logitech+keyboard+buttons+ubuntu+play+pause&btnG=Search
[05:53] <`Boo`> its a logitech wireless keyboard
[05:54] <morpheus2485> join #c++
[05:54] <Eleaf> will somebody nmap ethanlofton.no-ip.org and see what is open for me?
[05:54] <morpheus2485> oops...
[05:54] <morpheus2485> i hate that
[05:55] <NickGarvey> oh eleay
[05:55] <NickGarvey> I did
[05:55] <Eleaf> oh cool
[05:55] <NickGarvey> yeah its long gone though
[05:55] <NickGarvey> oh wait!
[05:55] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, what happened?
[05:55] <Eleaf> hmm
[05:55] <NickGarvey> clipboard restorer
[05:55] <Eleaf> lol
[05:55] <NickGarvey> mwahaha knew it would come in handy
[05:55] <`Boo`> FliesLikeABrick, it doesnt work
[05:56] <NickGarvey> http://pastebin.com/615637
[05:56] <FliesLikeABrick> `Boo`  what did you do to try and get it to work?
[05:56] <FliesLikeABrick> and can you please tell me the model of your keyboard, rather than just "logitech wireless keyboard" ?
[05:56] <`Boo`> i dont know where to start, the volume and mute work.
[05:56] <Jeffrae> Does make-kpkg modules_image  have a switch or something to bypass all of the questions and just leave eveything as is?
[05:56] <`Boo`> cordless elite duo.
[05:57] <NickGarvey> Eleaf: mind a security test?
[05:57] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, what do you mean?
[05:57] <NickGarvey> see if I can get into your system?
[05:57] <FliesLikeABrick> `Boo`  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=125333
[05:57] <mattt_> hm, ubuntu doesn't setup ndiswrapper for wireless biz during installation, eh?
[05:57] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, lol, why?
[05:57] <malv> incase you need some file and are not sure which package contains that file, try to use http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[05:57] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, what ports are open?  just msg me
[05:57] <malv> what an immensely useful tool
[05:57] <sail_> join #ubuntu-cn
[05:58] <FliesLikeABrick> Jeffrae  do make-kpkg --help and see if it has a "quiet" option
[05:58] <FliesLikeABrick> Jeffrae  or man make-kpkg and see if it has a "quiet" option there
[05:58] <silvaran> Matthewv: Nope... apt-get install ndis-utils (I think), and you need your windows drivers.
[05:58] <Jeffrae> ok
[05:58] <Jeffrae> I did the help one with no luck
[05:59] <Jeffrae> I will try the man manual
[05:59] <morfeus>  if [ [ "$lists" -ge 1 ]  && [ "$syntaks" != "0" ]  ]   <--it says too many arguments
[05:59] <silvaran> Whoops, ndiswrapper-utils
[05:59] <FliesLikeABrick> `Boo`  after doing anything with X configuration for your keyboard you will likely have to restart X with ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:59] <morfeus> if [ "$lists" -ge 1 && "$syntaks" != "0" ]   <--what is wrong with this?
[05:59] <`Boo`> rgr
[05:59] <venox> is there any cron frontend?
[05:59] <Jeffrae> FliesLikeABrick, have you ever used  make-kpkg moduls_image?
[05:59] <Abnix> can anyone tell me what I broke?  everytime I try to run a requires-root program I input my password and get "Failed to run **** as user root. Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file."
[06:00] <FliesLikeABrick> no Jeffrae  I have not, I'm just suggesting using the normal methods that I use to find options like that
[06:00] <miguel> hi all. I'm new to ubuntu and linux systems. i'd like to have developing tools installed. is there some easy way to get it? like the 'add application' tool.
[06:00] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, ?
[06:00] <NickGarvey> I msged you I thought
[06:01] <pvd2006> What is the command to see how much space you have left on linux again?
[06:01] <pvd2006> My head went blank
[06:01] <NickGarvey> du
[06:01] <NickGarvey> wait
[06:01] <FliesLikeABrick> pvd2006  df -h
[06:01] <NickGarvey> that shows how much you have used
[06:01] <NickGarvey> okie
[06:01] <pvd2006> df, thats right, thanks
[06:01] <Jeffrae> FliesLikeABrick, no quiet option
[06:01] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, it didn't show up
[06:01] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, are you registered?
[06:01] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, just join #blendistribute
[06:01] <Jeffrae> FliesLikeABrick, if I press enter it will take a default, but i have been pressing enter for like 5 minutes now hahaahahah
[06:02] <pvd2006> crap, I only have 2.2gigs left on my linux partition. I need to start saving stuff to my windows partition but when I try to right click and save as to hdc1 it won't save it just says the file is automatically done.
[06:02] <VR_> is there an official ubuntu blog of some kind where i can keep up with the news?
[06:02] <Abnix> oh, huh, I think I found out why...     Why is it my fresh install of this...OS has used 100% of my 72gig drive?
[06:02] <Abnix> I mean this is crazy! /dev/hda1              72G   69G     0 100% /
[06:02] <miguel> hi all. I'm new to ubuntu and linux systems. i'd like to have developing tools installed. is there some easy way to get it? like the 'add application' tool. anyone?
[06:02] <FliesLikeABrick> perhaps you should just go through all the defaults, it may be faster than looking for an option that may not exist.  where can I install this make-kpkg command so I can help you better?
[06:02] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell miguel  about repeat
[06:03] <pvd2006> that means you have 69gigs free, abnix
[06:03] <pvd2006> I think
[06:03] <Abnix> no
[06:03] <Abnix> it means that I am using 100% of my drive
[06:03] <Drac[Server] > Volume controls don't work for the new user I created. Is there a "sound" group I need to add it to?
[06:03] <FliesLikeABrick> no pvd2006  I think he's right
[06:03] <pvd2006> abnix, from installing what OS, ubuntu?
[06:03] <FliesLikeABrick> Abnix  perhaps you have some program that filled the drive up with logs?
[06:03] <Abnix> pvd2006: yup
[06:03] <nalioth> miguel: open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[06:03] <FliesLikeABrick> pvd2006  he came to this channel with that concern, so it is a safe bet that he's talking about ubuntu
[06:04] <FliesLikeABrick> Abnix  do this "sudo du -h /home"
[06:04] <pvd2006> abnix, that is crazy
[06:04] <Abnix> hmm, so it's something in my home dir....
[06:04] <Abnix> 64G     /home
[06:04] <pvd2006> wow!
[06:04] <pvd2006> :-x
[06:04] <FliesLikeABrick> mk, now use that same command to track down what folder in /home is doing it
[06:05] <miguel> thanks!
[06:05] <pvd2006> would there be a reason why when I try to save as link through firefox it wont save to my windows NTFS partition? It just says its the file is done downloading but theres nothing in it.
[06:05] <Drac[Server] > I'm trying to design a Linux installation that will work for my school. Please help. This new user lacks control of sound stuff. What gives?
[06:06] <FliesLikeABrick> pvd2006  linux currently cannot write to NTFS filesystems
[06:06] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, ? lol
[06:06] <_6ix_> I'm trying to share a drive with an XP box right now.  I have a couple questions.  Do I have to "boot" SAMBA, or is it automatically running?
[06:06] <Abnix> hahaha you guys are gonna LOVE this
[06:06] <Abnix> -rw-------   1 abner abner  64G 2006-03-21 23:06 .xsession-errors
[06:06] <FliesLikeABrick> _6ix_  samba starts at boot if it is installed
[06:06] <FliesLikeABrick> haha Abnix
[06:06] <pvd2006> .xession-errors taking up 64gigs, that is crazy. I am going to have to watch that.
[06:07] <FliesLikeABrick> Abnix  just remove that directory or all of the stuff in it and watch it as it grows again
[06:07] <FliesLikeABrick> see what is causing the problems
[06:07] <_6ix_> Okay.  Next question.  I have this ready made form I found on the Wiki to help me, called "smb.conf".  What dir should that go in?
[06:07] <FliesLikeABrick> _6ix_  /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:07] <Abnix> FliesLikeABrick: yea, I would hav eliked to see what was in that file, but I know better than to try and open a 64 GIG file for 'browsing'
[06:08] <_6ix_> /etc/samba?
[06:08] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah Abnix  just remove it and watch it while it is small
[06:08] <FliesLikeABrick> yes _6ix_
[06:08] <_6ix_> Oh, okay, thanks
[06:08] <Drac[Server] > Gah... I need to get to sleep soon... Will somebody tell me why a newly created user can't access the sound controls?
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> 'using Samba' is a book. thats aviliable online.. and well worth reading - for all your samba needs
[06:08] <_6ix_> I just found it, sorry for asking...
[06:08] <bimberi> Drac[Server] : are they a member of the 'audio' group?
[06:08] <FliesLikeABrick> Drac[Server]   did you break access to the sound controls while pruning permissions?
[06:08] <FliesLikeABrick> ah yes that too
[06:08] <FliesLikeABrick> forgot about that
[06:08] <Drac[Server] > How do I edit groups, again?
[06:08] <FliesLikeABrick> Drac[Server]   adduser <username> <groupname>
[06:08] <Drac[Server] > Ah.
[06:08] <FliesLikeABrick> to see if a user is a member of a group
[06:08] <FliesLikeABrick> do
[06:08] <FliesLikeABrick> groups <username>
[06:09] <bimberi> Drac[Server] : or System -> Administration -> Users & Groups
[06:09] <FliesLikeABrick> i'm assuming knowing the command line commands would be useful in case you plan to write a script to automate permissions setting on those desktops
[06:09] <`Boo`> whats xF86Config-4
[06:10] <mconroy> Does anyone know where to find the kernel source for ver <IP_ADDRESS>.... I can only find <IP_ADDRESS> and below. Any ideas?
[06:10] <FliesLikeABrick> mconroy  www.kernel.org
[06:10] <bimberi> Drac[Server] : you're aware of edubuntu? - http://edubuntu.org/
[06:10] <mconroy> tried that site, and can only find <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:10] <FliesLikeABrick> ah yeah Drac[Server]  bimberi I completely forgot about that
[06:11] <malv> any good gnome music players besides rhythmbox?
[06:11] <GigaClon> XMMS
[06:11] <FliesLikeABrick> malv xmms
[06:11] <Abnix> xmms
[06:11] <NickGarvey> I like xmms but I have heard good things aboout bmp Malv
[06:11] <malv> eh, slightly more evolved
[06:11] <malv> something like a jukebox system
[06:11] <Drac[Server] > bimberi, yeah... Dapper is the only thing that likes this network card and stuff... I'll try edubuntu dapper if I can't get this working the way I want it to.
[06:11] <malv> yea, currently using bmp
[06:11] <tristanmike> malv, it's not gnome, but it works just dandy, amarok
[06:11] <Abnix> malv: try xine?
[06:12] <bimberi> Drac[Server] : kk, just checkin' :)
[06:12] <`Boo`> still doesnt work FliesLikeABrick
[06:12] <`Boo`> i followed that config
[06:12] <FliesLikeABrick> `Boo`  you restarted X after making the changes?
[06:12] <`Boo`> er, that tut.
[06:12] <`Boo`> oh
[06:12] <`Boo`> doh
[06:12] <`Boo`> brb
[06:13] <grateful> whats the easiest way to add a new (empty) to ubuntu   ?  I have plugged it in and it is set to slave, but how do I get ubuntu to recognize it?
[06:13] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  hard drive you mean?
[06:13] <grateful> yes sorry
[06:13] <grateful> i thought i typed that
[06:14] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  would you rather use command line tools or graphical tools?
[06:14] <rasmus> Anyone here have valgrind and valgrind-callgrind installed where valgrind is version 2.x instead of 3.x?
[06:14] <grateful> command line is good
[06:14] <NickGarvey> grateful: first IDE channel?
[06:14] <FliesLikeABrick> alright grateful  I'll help you out
[06:14] <grateful> thanks  flies
[06:14] <rasmus> I am having trouble getting a non 3.x combination of those two packages to install
[06:14] <bimberi> FliesLikeABrick: lol at that question
[06:14] <FliesLikeABrick> why bimberi ?
[06:14] <NickGarvey> grateful: asmmuing it is, mkdir /mnt/hdb1 && mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt/hdb1
[06:14] <bimberi> FliesLikeABrick: in the context of earlier :)
[06:15] <FliesLikeABrick> bimberi  spell it out for me, i'm tired and miss the humor
[06:15] <grateful> btw it a second drive i already have one with ubuntu
[06:15] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  do sudo fdisk -l and take note of the /dev/hdX device that has no partitions and is the right size (the same size as the drive you know you just added)
[06:15] <grateful> okay doing it
[06:15] <bimberi> FliesLikeABrick: nvm
[06:15] <FliesLikeABrick> no bimberi  you can't do that to me, I'm curious ;)
[06:15] <Davey> is there any application that can help me find what files and directories on my system are using up all ym space?
[06:16] <FliesLikeABrick> Davey  systematically use sudo du -h <folder path> to see what folders are using how much space
[06:16] <Eleaf> mmmmm
[06:16] <Abnix> Davey: are you having out of space issues like me?
[06:16] <Davey> FliesLikeABrick: yeah, thats not exactly what I had in mind
[06:16] <grateful> Disk /dev/hdb: 250.0 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes
[06:16] <grateful>    is what it says
[06:16] <Davey> Abnix: yup
[06:16] <Abnix> it jsut....disappears....
[06:16] <FliesLikeABrick> Abnix  yeah you help him ;)
[06:16] <FliesLikeABrick> alright grateful
[06:16] <grateful> followed by :  Disk /dev/hdb doesn't contain a valid partition table
[06:16] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  do sudo fdisk /dev/hdb
[06:17] <Abnix> FliesLikeABrick: oh I'm not outa the woods yet...
[06:17] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, are you like attacking me? lol
[06:17] <FliesLikeABrick> yep grateful  thats because its new.  we're going to partition it now.  do you know how many partitions you want on it?
[06:17] <bimberi> FliesLikeABrick: earlier you suggested adduser and groups, then i came in with the GUI method.  Now you offer either :)
[06:17] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah Abnix  but you know the place he should check if his space is disappearing for no reason :P
[06:17] <ubuntu_> hello
[06:17] <grateful> just one parttion
[06:17] <NickGarvey> Eleaf: you didn't give me an ok
[06:17] <Abnix> that space is still showing as gone, but a sudo du -h / shows only 5.6g, but a df -h shows 100% of my /
[06:17] <Davey> do I need to keep around my /var/cache/apt/archives?
[06:17] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah bimberi, considering I own and operate about 15 servers I tend to be more of a command line type
[06:17] <FliesLikeABrick> alright grateful
[06:17] <kuja> And look, it's rasmus. But why do I think it's not him? Oh, cause I think Rasmus wouldn't go Comcast :)
[06:18] <NickGarvey> Eleaf: I'm not a black hat :P
[06:18] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, lol
[06:18] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  are you in the fdisk program?
[06:18] <grateful> i appreciate this a lot flies
[06:18] <NickGarvey> Eleaf: is that an ok?
[06:18] <FliesLikeABrick> np grateful, anything to help people get onto linux
[06:18] <Jeffrae> Goodnight all
[06:18] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, ;).  What ports did you see open?
[06:18] <FliesLikeABrick> gnite jeff
[06:18] <grateful> flies whats the command to enter it?
[06:18] <NickGarvey> ones in the paste bin
[06:18] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  sudo fdisk /dev/hdb
[06:18] <ubuntu_> how do i get to the grub menu to add ubuntu back in the menu?
[06:18] <NickGarvey> I was going to attack the ftp port
[06:18] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, which one? lol
[06:18] <bimberi> FliesLikeABrick: and fair enough too
[06:18] <NickGarvey> check for weak users
[06:18] <NickGarvey> http://pastebin.com/615637
[06:19] <Eleaf> woah
[06:19] <grateful> FliesLikeABrick im in the fdisk prompt
[06:19] <Eleaf> NickGarvey, it actually shows those open? cool..
[06:19] <FliesLikeABrick> alrigt Grarg
[06:19] <Eleaf> wait
[06:19] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  alright, type "n" then enter, then "p"
[06:19] <Eleaf> why does it actually show closed NickGarvey ?
[06:19] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  that is telling it to greate a new partition of type primary
[06:19] <NickGarvey> no idea
[06:19] <FliesLikeABrick> oh sorry grateful  you don't need the enter after p I think
[06:20] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  use common sense, i'll just tell you what to type ;)
[06:20] <grateful> it asks for partion number
[06:20] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful 1
[06:20] <FliesLikeABrick> bimberi  well I don't want to help someone with a graphical method when they are better with console, and vice-versa
[06:20] <grateful> then it asks for first cylinder number
[06:20] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  just hit enter
[06:20] <grateful> ok
[06:20] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful then just hit enter for the end cylinder too
[06:21] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  that will tell it to use defaults
[06:21] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful (the whole drive)
[06:21] <grateful> then  it goes back to the prompt
[06:21] <vice-versa> FliesLikeABrick: thanks! :)
[06:21] <Aggrav8d> I have two machines on a LAN, one win32 one linux.  I set up a samba share that was working, then reinstalled everything on the win32 box.  now that box doesn't find the network neighborhood.  I know it's something stupid like setting up the...
[06:21] <FliesLikeABrick> alright grateful  now hit "w" to tell it to "write-out" the table to the drive
[06:21] <Aggrav8d> ...workgroup name, but I can't remember what to set it to.  where do i look?
[06:22] <grateful> its working
[06:22] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  alright, does it say you need to reboot for it to take effect?
[06:22] <FliesLikeABrick> Aggrav8d  use  the same workgroup name as what you use on your windows computers
[06:22] <FliesLikeABrick> Aggrav8d  if you're using windows XP on the other computers, it doesn't matter much
[06:22] <chadstato> I am having a wierd problem with X11, I am using an Nvidia card and It has two outputs, A DVI and a VGA. The DVI goes to my primary display and the VGA goes to my secondary. My problem is that its sending the Primary display to the secondary monitor, How do I reverse the outputs on my card?
[06:22] <jbritz22> Hey all
[06:22] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell jbritz22 about ask
[06:23] <grateful> last thing it said was syncing disks... then back to my shell
[06:23] <FliesLikeABrick> chadstato one second and I can tell you how to fix that
[06:23] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful now do mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1
[06:23] <chadstato> I am running it with xinerama and not twinview.
[06:23] <jbritz22> Whats the most lightweight web browser for linux that retains the best page viewing quality?
[06:23] <FliesLikeABrick> chadstato ah well my solution may still work, hold on
[06:23] <bimberi> Aggrav8d: /etc/samba/smb.conf - search for workgroup
[06:23] <FliesLikeABrick> jbritz22 firefox for a real browser, or lynx for a text-based one
[06:23] <cerebrix> if anyone here has experience going thru the faq at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132406 please message me, got a few questions... thanks :)
[06:24] <regeya> what's the best car for the money, jbritz22?
[06:24] <jbritz22> Flieslikeabrick, firefox is not lightweight...
[06:24] <grateful> thanks flies.. now its  doing it
[06:24] <FliesLikeABrick> sorry jbritz22 just seemed like the right answer
[06:24] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  do you know where you want to mount this new drive?
[06:24] <grateful> writing inodes...
[06:24] <jbritz22> FliesLikeABrick, no prob, just everyone gives that now adays, XD
[06:24] <grateful> im not sure
[06:24] <FliesLikeABrick> well jbritz22  what specs does the machine have that you're looking to run it on?
[06:25] <regeya> seriously, what's the best car for the money
[06:25] <regeya> nobody ever gives the right answer XD
[06:25] <jbritz22> flieslikeabrick 600mhz, uhh, 256mb ram, 16mb vid car
[06:25] <regeya> hmm....wait a sec...
[06:25] <FliesLikeABrick> jbritz22 I've run firefox perfectly on far less than that, but it is up to you to find something lighter.  perhaps search through apt for options
[06:26] <grateful> is there a way i can see that drive through konqueror now?
[06:26] <FliesLikeABrick> haha jbritz22  look what apt says about firefox: firefox - lightweight web browser based on Mozilla
[06:26] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  wen eed to mount it somehwere in your filesystem first
[06:26] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  you're just looking to use it for storage?
[06:26] <FliesLikeABrick> we need*
[06:26] <grateful> flies yes
[06:27] <jbritz22> FliesLikeaBrick, Ok, I'll just fool around with some settings in firefox, one more question, why do I get a dcopserver erro r when trying tro run amarok on fluxnoxx?
[06:27] <slavik> if I have some modules black listed, when I dist_upgrade to dapper, will that blacklist be carried over to dapper?
[06:27] <jbritz22> FliesLikeABrick, fluxbox*
[06:27] <graft> anyone know anything about dovecot? I can't figure out how to get this thing to let me log in...
[06:27] <grateful> just for storage
[06:27] <regeya> how about opera, jbritz22?
[06:27] <graft> and the documentation is, typical of free software projects, less than adequate
[06:27] <FliesLikeABrick> jbritz22 try to use the fasterfox firefox extension to optimize your firefox configuration
[06:27] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  would mounting it at /storage be sufficient for you ? ;)
[06:27] <slavik> also, in breezy, how can I restart X? (ctrl+alt+backspace close it up completely and it has to be restarted with 'startx')
[06:27] <chadstato> Did you manage to find the xconfig thing?
[06:27] <grateful> flies sure
[06:28] <FliesLikeABrick> alright grateful, is this on a personal computer? if so, how many users?
[06:28] <_6ix_> Do I need to reboot for new SAMBA definitions to take place?
[06:28] <jbritz22> regeya, I dont like opera's page output, methinks, I'll stick with firefox, its helped me for a long time now, I shouldnt be so switch to ditch it
[06:28] <bimberi> slavik: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[06:28] <grateful> just me
[06:28] <graft> slavik: run ... yeah.
[06:28] <grateful> personal
[06:28] <slavik> ty, bimberi
[06:28] <FliesLikeABrick> _6ix_  no, just do sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[06:28] <bimberi> jbritz22: epiphany ?
[06:28] <_6ix_> Thanks
[06:28] <regeya> o_O
[06:28] <slavik> anyone know on the blacklist dist-upgrade issue?
[06:28] <jbritz22> bimberi, ill look it up
[06:28] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  alright then we'll mount it at /storage with your username as the owner
[06:28] <jbritz22> anyone got anyhing on my amarok issue?
[06:28] <graft> amarok issue?
[06:29] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  do sudo nano /etc/fstab, we're going to add a line in there to mount this drive at boot
[06:29] <louise> can someone tell me, what is the name of the new system-tray program for beagle? 'best' has disappeared
[06:29] <bimberi> jbritz22: kk - ubuntu package is 'epiphany-browser' btw
[06:29] <louise> in dapper
[06:29] <grateful> okay im in nano
[06:29] <jbritz22> bimbi, sweet
[06:29] <jbritz22> thanks ;)
[06:29] <bimberi> louise: i think the deskbar works with beagle
[06:29] <bimberi> jbritz22: yw :)
[06:29] <_6ix_> Why do you think there might be no "samba" file in /etc/init.d/?
[06:30] <louise> bimberi, deskbar?
[06:30] <graft> jbritz what's your amarok issue?
[06:30] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  alright, type this into that file, as a new line.  I'll explain it afterwards.  /dev/hdb1 /storage  ext3 defaults 0 0
[06:30] <_6ix_> And yes, I have samba installed
[06:30] <regeya> jbritz22: epiphany.  uses gecko just as firefox does, tends to be a bit less top-heavy, and tends to be gnome-centric.
[06:30] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  give meo ne second to get my laptop out and test something
[06:30] <louise> beagle has changed the name of it's system-tray client from best to something else, i've used it before but i've forgotten the name and i need to run it for a new syste,
[06:30] <regeya> if that floats your boat, rock on.
[06:30] <louise> system
[06:30] <jbritz22> does anyone know what a dcopserver error is?
[06:30] <FliesLikeABrick> jbritz22  did you google it?
[06:30] <bimberi> louise: a new and very nice little applet (right click on panel, select Add To Panel...,  at the top)
[06:31] <grateful> thanks flies  ,, i made that change and saved it
[06:31] <louise> bimberi, what's it called?
[06:31] <jbritz22> flieslikeabrick, yup nothing
[06:31] <jbritz22> !dcopserver
[06:31] <ubotu> Did you get hit by a windmill? Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/, jbritz22
[06:31] <bimberi> louise: Deskbar
[06:31] <graft> jbritz22 you know what dcop is?
[06:32] <grateful> it shows up in konqueror now
[06:32] <malv> is there a way to remove the packages a meta package brings in?
[06:32] <malv> e.g. ubuntu-desktop?
[06:32] <regeya> jbritz, dcop is what kde uses for ipc
[06:32] <regeya> fyi
[06:32] <graft> malv: write clever recursive scripts using cat and awk and grep, etc.?
[06:33] <bimberi> malv: if you use aptitude to install them then it will know what to uninstall.  Otherwise there's debfoster
[06:33] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah grateful  but right now you can't write to it except as root,  thats what i'm looking for the best way to change
[06:33] <louise> bimberi, got it, awesome =)  couldn't see it before, it was too yellow
[06:33] <jbritz22> I get it whenever trying to run any kde program, im using fluxbox
[06:33] <grateful> okay
[06:33] <bimberi> louise: lol
[06:33] <malv> or i can recursively unclick everything in synaptic
[06:33] <malv> eh, might as well redo the chroot environment
[06:33] <regeya> jbritz22: what's the error?  that can't be everything...
[06:34] <jbritz22> here
[06:34] <jbritz22> ill pastebin it
[06:34] <FliesLikeABrick> alright grateful we're going to change the ownership of the mount point to the username that you use all the time, k?
[06:34] <Eleaf> somebody is trying to telnet into me
[06:34] <Eleaf> lol
[06:34] <grateful> again thanks in advance flies
[06:34] <regeya> rofflecopters.
[06:34] <FliesLikeABrick> np grateful.  do sudo mount /storage
[06:35] <FliesLikeABrick> then grateful  do sudo chown <your normal username> /storage
[06:35] <louise> bimberi, is there anything else but deskbar?
[06:35] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  or you can do sudo chmod 777 /storage
[06:35] <grateful> mount: mount point /storage does not exist
[06:35] <FliesLikeABrick> oh grateful do sudo mkdir /storage
[06:36] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  then do the last things i've said since mount /storage
[06:36] <FliesLikeABrick> grateful  including mount
[06:36] <gtrplr> hello
[06:37] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell gtrplr  about ask
[06:37] <grateful> okay i did all that
[06:37] <FliesLikeABrick> mk grateful  now try saving something in /storage
[06:37] <FliesLikeABrick> or making a folder in konqueror
[06:37] <jbritz22> first I will give you the text that comes up int he terminal
[06:37] <bimberi> louise: i don't know sorry.  That probably wasn't the answer to your original question.
[06:37] <gtrplr> I have a windows partition that I can not get to without root perm, I am owner
[06:37] <jbritz22> http://pastebin.com/615652
[06:38] <grateful> thanks so much flies
[06:38] <FliesLikeABrick> np grateful, just pass it on by helping someone else when you have the ability to ;)
[06:38] <vars> how do i use cli to zip a folder
[06:38] <grateful> I REALLY appreciate all that you have helped
[06:38] <louise> bimberi, deskbar looks interesting, but i need to be able to type in stuff and have results come up instantly
[06:38] <graft> jbritz22, is KDE installed?
[06:38] <grateful> the IRC gods have spoken...
[06:39] <bimberi> louise: yes, you need someone who knows beagle better than me
[06:39] <DarthShrine> Afternoon.
[06:39] <grateful> thanks again
[06:39] <vars> anyone?
[06:39] <gtrplr> how do I change permission on a NTFS folder?
[06:39] <graft> vars: there's a 'zip' utility
[06:39] <vars> gtrplr, i think you can with sudo
[06:39] <gtrplr> vars, what do you mean
[06:39] <FliesLikeABrick> gtrplr just a moment, let me refresh my memory then i'll let you know
[06:39] <jbritz22> graft, just the libs
[06:39] <gtrplr> vars, I tried
[06:39] <jbritz22> graft, just installed amarok, and all the required dependicies
[06:39] <graft> or you can make a tarball, tar -czf or tar -cjf <files>
[06:39] <vars> what is the command to zip a folder
[06:40] <pk_volt> how do I use pscp to transfer a file from windows to linux?
[06:40] <gtrplr> vars, zip
[06:40] <graft> jbritz22: um... ah... well, does ~/.kde exists?
[06:40] <vars> i need to transfer it to windows
[06:40] <thenuke> gtrplr: http://www.psychocats.net/linux/mountwindows.php
[06:40] <gtrplr> look at the help
[06:40] <liquidboy> i'm having a problem with tuxkart. i get the start screen, but it's very slow, and when i click "play" the window goes away... something about hardware accelleration?
[06:40] <FliesLikeABrick> gtrplr alright I've got it
[06:40] <graft> pk_volt: you have to connect from windows to linux
[06:41] <FliesLikeABrick> gtrplr  do you mount it using /etc/fstab ?
[06:41] <graft> windows has no remote capability whatsoever, because it sucks
[06:41] <jbritz22> graft, in the root directory?
[06:41] <Madpilot> liquidboy, have you got 3d drivers installed for your graphics card?
[06:41] <graft> jbritz22: no, in your home directory... /home/jbritz22/.kde
[06:41] <graft> does it exist?
[06:41] <gtrplr> FliesLikeABrick, yes, but as media/hda1
[06:41] <pk_volt> graft - what command do I type in dos to connect to it
[06:41] <thenuke> gtrplr: in my url, you find info about howto mount windows partition automagically (fstab) and so that you dont need to be root to access it
[06:41] <pk_volt> and send a file
[06:41] <jbritz22> graft, lemme check
[06:41] <liquidboy> probably not
[06:41] <graft> pk_volt: get winSCP3 via google
[06:41] <jbritz22> graft, nopers
[06:41] <FliesLikeABrick> gtrplr when you mount it, mount it with the option uid=<the username you want to access it from>
[06:42] <graft> jbritz22: create it... that might solve your problems
[06:42] <liquidboy> Madpilot, im just using the default ones that came with ubuntu 5.10 - i've got an S3 prosavage ddr graphics card
[06:42] <FliesLikeABrick> that will allow that user to read it, rather than having to be root
[06:42] <jbritz22> ok maybe it is there
[06:42] <liquidboy> Madpilot, i was told that s3 = sucks
[06:42] <bimberi> jbritz22: looks to me like some of your files have become owned by root - 'sudo chown -R jbritz22:jbritz22 /home/jbritz22'
[06:42] <liquidboy> don't know if thats true or not
[06:42] <jbritz22> graft, mkdir: cannot create directory `.kde': File exists
[06:42] <Madpilot> liquidboy, you might be right, at least for 3d stuff - I run an ATI board myself
[06:42] <gtrplr> FliesLikeABrick, will do. Its odd not having a root user
[06:43] <concept10> liquidboy, I have that same card in my music production box
[06:43] <chadstato> FliesLikeABrick: Have you found the thing that will reverse the displays?
[06:43] <FliesLikeABrick> no chadstato  sorry, my way is for twinview only :-/
[06:43] <Blue-Steel> is the #root passwd the same as the user passwd  on ubuntu ?
[06:43] <liquidboy> if there are 3d drivers for my card, would they be avaliable in synaptic?
[06:43] <graft> jbritz22: check permissions/ownership on it
[06:43] <concept10> liquidboy, and its not great at all, slow refreshes
[06:43] <graft> make sure you can write to it...
[06:43] <FliesLikeABrick> gtrplr root exists, ubuntu just doesn't use it by default
[06:43] <jbritz22> graft, is there a command for that
[06:43] <bimberi> Blue-Steel: no, the root password is not set, so the account can't be logged into
[06:43] <FliesLikeABrick> doesn't use it directly, rather
[06:44] <graft> jbritz22: yeah, ls -l /home/jbritz22/.kde
[06:44] <Blue-Steel> bimberi  i just want to su to root
[06:44] <liquidboy> concept10, oh yep, that makes sence, i had serious lag issues with metacity in gnome (the windows lagged severely when i dragged them around)
[06:44] <Blue-Steel> andredekito
[06:44] <graft> Blue-Steel: sudo -i
[06:44] <FliesLikeABrick> Blue-Steel  in order to su to root, you have to do sudo passwd to set a root password
[06:44] <Blue-Steel> ups
[06:44] <Blue-Steel>  ok
[06:44] <bimberi> Blue-Steel: sudo -i     <--  gets you a root shell
[06:44] <cerebrix>  if anyone here has experience going thru the faq at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=132406 please message me, got a few questions... thanks :)
[06:44] <Blue-Steel> ah
[06:44] <FliesLikeABrick> oh sorry Blue-Steel do what bimberi  said
[06:44] <Madpilot> !tell Blue-Steel about sudo
[06:45] <gtrplr> FliesLikeABrick, you saved me
[06:45] <gtrplr> thanks!
[06:46] <FliesLikeABrick> np gtrplr, I'm here to help
[06:47] <graft> just out of curiosity, why do people hang out here and answer questions?
[06:47] <pk_volt> how do i find my hostname?
[06:47] <Blue-Steel> to help each other
[06:48] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt  cat /etc/hostname
[06:48] <jadaz87> can anyone tell me what the command is for listing all of the channels on a ircserver?
[06:48] <graft> pk_volt: cat /etc/hostname
[06:48] <Blue-Steel>  /list
[06:48] <FliesLikeABrick> jadams  usually it is /list
[06:48] <graft> jadaz87: /list -YES, usually
[06:48] <jadaz87> oh ok thanks
[06:48] <graft> but probably a bad idea
[06:48] <Tido> could take awhile to list them all lol
[06:48] <michael> how do i start the graphical search from terminal?
[06:48] <jadaz87> graft oh why whould you say that?
[06:48] <pk_volt> and how do I start ssh server
[06:48] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt  apt-get install ssh
[06:48] <pk_volt> i installed it already
[06:48] <graft> jadaz87: you'll get about 150,024 pages of spam
[06:48] <FliesLikeABrick> er pk_volt  sudo apt-get install ssh*
[06:49] <pk_volt> how do I start it
[06:49] <jadaz87> oh ok
[06:49] <gtrplr> brb
[06:49] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt  it is usually started after it is installed
[06:49] <pk_volt> hrm
[06:49] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt  but if not, sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[06:49] <jbritz22> graft, http://pastebin.com/615664
[06:49] <jbritz22> graft, theres the permissions on .kde
[06:49] <bimberi> michael: gnome-search-tool
[06:49] <michael> ty
[06:49] <graft> jbritz22: err crap... you need to do ls -al
[06:49] <jbritz22> graft, ok
[06:50] <pk_volt> it says "Open bsd secure shell       [FAILED]
[06:50] <jbritz22> graft, http://pastebin.com/615666
[06:50] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt check your logs to see why it failed
[06:51] <bimberi> jbritz22: still looks to me like some of your files have become owned by root - 'sudo chown -R jbritz22:jbritz22 /home/jbritz22'
[06:51] <michael> ok, didn't find it, i have my Nomad Creative Jukebox mounted using gnomad2, where is that mount point?
[06:51] <pk_volt> which logfile do i look for in /var/log
[06:51] <graft> jbritz22: yeah, bimberi is correct
[06:51] <graft> that's your problem
[06:52] <liquidboy> Madpilot, i searched synaptic, for 'savage' - i saw the drivers that were installed, but there were none saying they were 3d drivers.. i guess that means there aren't any for my graphics card?
[06:52] <FliesLikeABrick> i'm not sure pk_volt
[06:52] <cerebrix> anyone here ever built xgl and compiz from cvs?  im trying to build libs and getting a lot of errors.  never built anything this big before so im wondering if these errors are ok
[06:52] <pk_volt> err
[06:52] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt  try doing grep -R ssh /var/log | grep fail
[06:52] <jbritz22> blimberi, ok did that, now should I try amarok?
[06:52] <graft> cerebrix: don't bother, compiz and xgl are both in dapper
[06:52] <bimberi> gksudo
[06:52] <Madpilot> liquidboy, I don't know anything about s3/savage vid cards, really
[06:52] <bimberi> jbritz22: yep
[06:52] <bimberi> !gksudo
[06:53] <ubotu> Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root privileges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[06:53] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt  that might show you which log file it is in
[06:53] <bimberi> jbritz22: ^^^^ that might be why
[06:53] <liquidboy> Madpilot, oh yep, thanks anywya
[06:53] <cerebrix> theres a bug in that version that the latest cvs fixes for nvidia cards. wasnt added until yesterday or the day before i believe
[06:53] <liquidboy> *anywya
[06:53] <Blue-Steel> what am i missing here to start sshd ? its installed and not when i try to start it it gives me {Fail}
[06:53] <FliesLikeABrick> Blue-Steel  it sounds like you're having the same problem as pk_volt
[06:54] <graft> cerebrix: ah... can't wait like four days or whatever it'll take 'em? :P
[06:54] <jbritz22> blimberi, nike! no errors
[06:54] <bimberi> just do it :P
[06:54] <FliesLikeABrick> Blue-Steel  i'm working with pk_volt  to track down the right error log right now
[06:54] <FliesLikeABrick> anyone know what log would contain sshd errors?
[06:54] <Blue-Steel> ok
[06:54] <pk_volt> hrm
[06:54] <graft> maybe daemon.log
[06:54] <pk_volt> nothing showed up
[06:54] <pk_volt> gonna try rebooting
[06:54] <FliesLikeABrick> no pk_volt  don't bother
[06:54] <ic56> FliesLikeABrick: /var/log/auth.log
[06:55] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt  try tail /var/log/daemon.log or tail /var/log/auth.log
[06:55] <cerebrix> kind of doing it for the learning experience of building something large as well
[06:55] <cerebrix> nothing on tv tonight =p
[06:55] <FliesLikeABrick> ic56  would that contain runtime problems with sshd rather than just authentication problems?
[06:55] <graft> it's auth.log i think
[06:55] <graft> at least i have ssh crap in mine
[06:55] <jbritz22> thanks everyone who helped me :D
[06:55] <michael> how can I find the mount point of my creative nomad jukebox?
[06:55] <FliesLikeABrick> michael  cat /etc/mtab and look for /dev/sda1
[06:56] <PokerFacePenguin> auth.log is for connection attempts and whatnot...it sounds as if his service isn't starting
[06:56] <FliesLikeABrick> yes PokerFacePenguin  I know, we're trying to find out why it isn't starting
[06:56] <ic56> FliesLikeABrick: yes, auth should contain all sshd output.
[06:56] <FliesLikeABrick> which is why I didn't think we should look in auth.log
[06:56] <FliesLikeABrick> alright  ic56  thanks
[06:56] <vook> michael, df also is a good choice
[06:56] <FliesLikeABrick> Blue-Steel try tail /var/log/auth.log and tell me what it says
[06:56] <fyrestrtr> FliesLikeABrick: /var/log/messages
[06:56] <malv> ok, i have something funny to say
[06:56] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah Blue-Steel  tail everything recently mentioned here and look for problems ;)
[06:57] <malv> so I did an rm -rf on my /chroot directory and I forgot to unbind home in my fstab
[06:57] <Blue-Steel> i was tailing /var/log/messages and nothing
[06:57] <Blue-Steel>  let me see that one
[06:57] <malv> my mighty porn collection is now gone
[06:57] <PokerFacePenguin> FliesLikeABrick: might be easier to cat the file and grep for ssh
[06:57] <malv> along with some lesser important things
[06:57] <FliesLikeABrick> PokerFacePenguin  don't tell me, tell them ;)
[06:57] <malv> is there anyway to retrieve that porn somehow? I am using reiser
[06:57] <graft> messages won't have ssh stuff
[06:57] <Blue-Steel> ah ! fatal . cant bind port 22 to <IP_ADDRESS>
[06:57] <FliesLikeABrick> there you go
[06:57] <PokerFacePenguin> :)  just makin a suggest
[06:58] <FliesLikeABrick> is ssh already running you guys?
[06:58] <pk_volt> i don't get any errors
[06:58] <graft> malv... there's some file recovery tools
[06:58] <pk_volt> i do a ps -ef | grep ssh
[06:58] <vook> malv, it's only wednesday man, that is friday night jabber
[06:58] <michael> Can you tell me which one it is mounted to?     http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/10627
[06:58] <pk_volt> and it says /usr/sbin/sshd
[06:58] <FliesLikeABrick> michael  thanks for using pastebin.  it does not appear to be mounted
[06:59] <malv> well, luckily I always back up my data, and everthing is stored using svn
[06:59] <pk_volt> but when i try to login using winSCP
[06:59] <pk_volt> it says no host found
[06:59] <malv> except the porn of course
[06:59] <vook> for shame
[06:59] <michael> and yet i'm getting info from it using gnomad2?? kinda like the windows problem i had with this brand
[06:59] <graft> pk_volt: ssh localhost?
[06:59] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt host not found?  that is more than your ssh not just listening
[06:59] <FliesLikeABrick> graft i'm guessing he's trying from another comp, on windows
[07:00] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt  are you using the correct local IP?
[07:00] <graft> FliesLikeABrick: yeah, but he can test to see if his ssh server works that way
[07:00] <FliesLikeABrick> agreed graft
[07:00] <pk_volt> where do I typ in teh ip in winscp?
[07:00] <pk_volt> oh wiat
[07:00] <pk_volt> I have to do hostname@ip?
[07:00] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt  on the linux box try doing ssh localhost at the command line
[07:00] <FliesLikeABrick> if that gives ytou something aside from an error, it is working
[07:01] <Blue-Steel> well for some reason  i cant bind port 22 to any address ....
[07:01] <FliesLikeABrick> and no pk_volt  you just give it an IP
[07:01] <FliesLikeABrick> Blue-Steel  is it because ssh is already running?
[07:01] <FliesLikeABrick> Blue-Steel try ssh localhost
[07:01] <pk_volt> ok
[07:01] <pk_volt> i logged in'
[07:01] <FliesLikeABrick> k pk_volt  it is working fine then
[07:01] <vook> malv, just a plug for xfs, the tools are outstanding and effective.
[07:01] <FliesLikeABrick> I suspect Blue-Steel  is doing the same thing and trying to start ssh when it is already running
[07:01] <damian_> do i change gnome panels application button icon?
[07:01] <damian_> i couldnt find the ubuntu logo anywhere
[07:02] <MarcC> anybody have a jabber account I can PM real quick to test? :D
[07:02] <pk_volt> working good
[07:02] <pk_volt> thanks
[07:02] <Blue-Steel> yes working
[07:02] <Blue-Steel> restart  solved it
[07:02] <damian_> not in /usr/share/icons or */pixmaps
[07:02] <graft> malv check out http://e2undel.sourceforge.net/recovery-howto.html
[07:02] <FliesLikeABrick> MarcC  you can PM me
[07:02] <PokerFacePenguin> MarcC<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[07:02] <malv> yep, found a way to recover with reiserfsck
[07:02] <MarcC> ok, thanks :)
[07:02] <rss> Hi! PS/2 Optical mouse is not working, it is not even displaying the light in Breezy, any known fix for this, this is same as bug#16723
[07:02] <graft> oh wait reiser anyway...
[07:02] <malv> me and my porn thank you
[07:03] <graft> so should everyone be using reiser at this point anyway? or is there not that much point?
[07:04] <graft> rss if it's not even lighting up i would guess it's just broken...
[07:05] <rss> graft: It is working perfectly well in Windoze XP
[07:05] <rss> graft: also in the live cd
[07:05] <graft> rss well... hrm... is it USB mouse?
[07:05] <rss> graft: PS/2
[07:05] <graft> rss oh duh... and your mouse line in xorg.conf is...?
[07:06] <rss> graft: I tried /dev/input/mice and also /dev/psaux with protocol as "intellimouse"
[07:07] <rss> graft: it was working with /dev/input/mice and intellimouse in the live cd and fedora
[07:07] <graft> rss protocol oughta be like... ImPS/2 or something
[07:07] <rss> graft: tried even that
[07:08] <graft> well bugger
[07:08] <graft> i still don't get why it wouldn't even light up... that's not normal...
[07:08] <graft> that's like a basic machine-level thing
[07:09] <graft> um... you'd probably hit me, but did you check the plug?
[07:09] <FliesLikeABrick> I agree iwht graft
[07:09] <FliesLikeABrick> with*
[07:11] <CoolGal22> This is a real newb question but can anyone tell me why certain applications will not minimize the the taskbar? They just "dissapear"
[07:11] <DarthShrine> In the Ubuntu 5.10 LiveCD, my "0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)" was working perfectly. I installed from the LiveCD, and now the audio is not working. What can I do to get it working again?
[07:11] <FliesLikeABrick> DarthLappy  may I ask why you installed from the LiveCD instead of an install CD?
[07:12] <graft> those LiveCDs are always so much better than real installs...
[07:12] <graft> Knoppix always does stuff with my computers that i never even knew they could do...
[07:12] <DarthShrine> FliesLikeABrick, 1) Didn't need to download another image, 2) Didn't need to use another CD, 3) Why bother to do that when I can install from a LiveCD?
[07:12] <graft> i mean... wtf... why don't they just make the whole OS behave like that all the time, with that autoconfiguration?
[07:12] <FliesLikeABrick> fair enough DarthLappy  just asking
[07:12] <pk_volt> I'm trying to install the ati fglrx drivers for my laptop, but i get an error in a log saying precompiled kernel version mismatch
[07:13] <FliesLikeABrick> !tell pk_volt about ati
[07:13] <DarthShrine> graft, Yeah.
[07:13] <vice-versa> anyone here using a Acer Travelmate 2300?
[07:13] <FliesLikeABrick> pk_volt  have you followed the instructions in that message you just got from ubotu ?
[07:13] <DarthShrine> I installed the 2.6.12-10-686-smp kernel, and VMWare broke :(
[07:13] <pk_volt> looking
[07:13] <FliesLikeABrick> DarthLappy  you probably need to recompile the module used by vmware for the new kernel
[07:13] <FliesLikeABrick> unless I'm just thinking of the VMWare server
[07:14] <Blue-Steel> no amsn on apt-get ? whats the name  that ubuntu uses for it ?
[07:15] <DarthLappy> FliesLikeABrick, Yeah, I had to run vmware-config.pl again, but it froze twice, and VMWare crashed when I ran it after getting the module to compile, then it froze again
[07:15] <gn0me> When I run normal X, I have direct rendering. When I run Xgl, I don't.. Might anyone have a similar issue?
[07:15] <nalioth> Blue-Steel: amsn is in the repos, make sure you have universe an multiverse repos enabled
[07:15] <graft> argh... too many Darths in here
[07:16] <graft> always two there are
[07:16] <Blue-Steel> nalioth  i have no idea what that is
[07:16] <nalioth> Blue-Steel: ah, watch your priv msgs
[07:16] <Blue-Steel> ok
[07:16] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Blue-Steel about repos
[07:16] <DarthShrine> graft, :D Want me to join on my server too?
[07:17] <nalioth> Blue-Steel: enable the universe and multiverse repositories, and you'll have over 17,000 programs to play with
[07:17] <FliesLikeABrick> goodnight everyone
[07:17] <DarthShrine> G'night FliesLikeABrick
[07:17] <pk_volt> i downloaded the ati installer
[07:18] <Blue-Steel> i remember it was a list conf somewhere with debian where we put all the mirrors
[07:18] <Blue-Steel> what is the path  to it
[07:18] <DarthShrine> Could anybody try and help with my audio prob then?
[07:18] <Blue-Steel> i cant remember
[07:18] <pk_volt> and now it's asking for an installation path
[07:18] <nalioth> Blue-Steel: it's in the link ubotu sent you
[07:19] <CoolGal22> I need to know how to get apps to minimize to the tray instead of dissapearing when I minimize them
[07:19] <pk_volt> the ati flglrx installer is asking me for an installation path
[07:19] <pk_volt> what should I type in?
[07:20] <malv> are there any downsides to lvm?
[07:21] <pk_volt> how do i find out my ubuntu version?
[07:21] <gn0me> System->About Ubuntu
[07:21] <gn0me> I think
[07:21] <pk_volt> how do i check in termianl
[07:21] <fyrestrtr> pk_volt: uname -a
[07:21] <Blue-Steel> i see.... but i was looking for a cmd line to do it
[07:22] <gn0me> Or that, with the terminal.
[07:23] <DarthShrine> In the Ubuntu 5.10 LiveCD, my "0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)" was working perfectly. I installed from the LiveCD, and now the audio is not working. What can I do to get it working again?
[07:23] <Tido> how would I go about setting up ubuntu to run as a vpn server?
[07:24] <ejofee> is there any way to use bum in order to make a certain service be automatically run on startup
[07:24] <ejofee> ?
[07:25] <Frogzoo> ejofee: yes, but you still have to create the startup script yourself...
[07:25] <graft> DarthShrine: can't you just load up the right module and run along?
[07:26] <CoolGal22> ok then, I have KDE 3.5 on a disc, all the tar files...How would I go about installing it in ubuntu?
[07:26] <DarthShrine> graft, I thought so, but nopr
[07:26] <ejofee> Frogzoo: my /etc/init.d/ is already populated with a lot of scripts waiting to be automatically run from startup (some of which i am also eager to run)
[07:27] <ejofee> s/from/at/
[07:27] <Blue-Steel> !easysource
[07:27] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:27] <graft> DarthShrine: what do you mean, nopr? they don't load or what?
[07:28] <Frogzoo> ejofee: then tell bum to run them, & it will symlink where needed
[07:28] <DarthLappy> graft, They load, they just don't seem to do anything :)
[07:28] <graft> DarthLappy: did you load alsa modules?
[07:28] <graft> and do you have alsa libs installed?
[07:28] <DarthLappy> graft, I shall try once again
[07:29] <graft> i hate all those alsa modules... this is why i always build them into the kernel
[07:29] <Russ_> I would echo Tido's question. I'd like to set up my Ubuntu computer as a VPN server. Where would I start?
[07:30] <graft> there's any number of VPN packages in the ubuntu repository
[07:31] <Tido> Russ_, I just found openVPN and Poptop as solutions
[07:31] <Bytewalker> will ubuntu work off the cd with my "Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN"? (from winxp ipconfig /all)
[07:31] <Tido> though, their names are all I know about them atm :p
[07:32] <Blue-Steel> what is the name of the full kde package ?
[07:32] <DarthLappy> graft, And after loading all those modules...?
[07:32] <DarthLappy> Should it magically work?
[07:32] <ejofee> Frogzoo: i know how to start them up from bum, it's just that there's no option like "also start on next boot up"
[07:32] <nalioth_zZz> Blue-Steel: kubuntu-desktop
[07:32] <graft> DarthLappy: should...
[07:32] <Russ_> Tido: I've heard of OpenVPN. Looking up some setup instructions now.
[07:33] <DarthShrine> graft, Doesn't seem to.
[07:33] <graft> Russ_, Tido: there's a buncha vpn packages in the repository...
[07:33] <graft> including openvpn
[07:33] <DarthShrine> graft, Should I compile the newest kernel maybe?
[07:33] <DarthShrine> graft, And the newest ALSA?
[07:33] <graft> DarthShrine: um... have you got all the ALSA libs?
[07:34] <graft> you don't need to compile ALSA libs, the ones in the repository should be fine...
[07:34] <lunari> w00t! I figured something out for myself!
[07:34] <jehnx> Anyone willing to help me get my usb sound adapter to work?
[07:34] <DarthShrine> graft, I *think* so. Though I dunno...I have alsa-base, alsa-oss, alsa-utils
[07:34] <jehnx> I usually hear crickets when I ask that.  :-/
[07:35] <Frogzoo> ejofee: ok, try 'sudo update-rc.d service defaults' & rerun bum
[07:36] <graft> DarthShrine: got libasound1 and all that?
[07:36] <ejofee> Frogzoo: you actually mean update-rc.d saves the current running/(not running) status of the processes?!
[07:36] <DarthShrine> graft, libasound2
[07:36] <graft> libasound2 i mean
[07:36] <graft> yeah
[07:36] <graft> um.
[07:37] <graft> what're you using to test it?
[07:38] <DarthShrine> graft, The alsamixer command
[07:38] <DarthShrine> I don't really know what I should be using...
[07:38] <noumaan> I have some questions not relevant to ubuntu but Open Source
[07:38] <Frogzoo> ejofee: no - but update-rc.d will create symlinks in rc*.d for any init.d script
[07:38] <ejofee> noumaan: it doesn't matter, go on
[07:39] <IzeyJr> is there a generic way to get most packages to build sources?
[07:39] <noumaan>  We are working on a project to digitalize Urdu Ebooks like Project Gutenberg. We are creating html pages aswell as unicode text for library. I wanted to know how do I let the search engines know that the document we are uploading is licensed under GNU ?
[07:39] <graft> DarthShrine: um... alsamixer doesn't work, eh... that's not encouraging at all
[07:39] <Frogzoo> ejofee: once the script has an rc*.d symlink, you can change the priority through bum
[07:39] <graft> what's the error say?
[07:39] <DarthShrine> graft, alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: Permission denied
[07:39] <Tido> I don't get it, why would you want to use IPX for a VPN?
[07:39] <graft> Permission denied?
[07:40] <graft> try it as root?
[07:40] <DarthLappy> Indeed.
[07:40] <DarthLappy> graft, That works.
[07:40] <Frogzoo> noumaan: you could pass a meta tag - there may even be a standard for doing this
[07:40] <graft> okay... got mplayer?
[07:40] <graft> play some mp3 as root with mplayer
[07:41] <Frogzoo> noumaan: or... just append a copyright footer
[07:41] <DarthShrine> graft, "sudo cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" "bash: /dev/dsp: Permission denied"
[07:41] <ejofee> noumaan: i don't think there's some special functionality of search engines to distinguish gpl from non-gpl stuff
[07:41] <graft> DarthShrine: err, did you modprobe snd_pcm_oss anyway?
[07:41] <graft> you might have to add your user to the audio group
[07:42] <Kovecses> so the dapper date moved huh?
[07:42] <DarthShrine> graft, Yes.
[07:42] <jehnx> Anyone willing to help me get my usb sound adapter to work?
[07:42] <DarthShrine> graft, Oh.
[07:42] <Frogzoo> Kovecses: yup
[07:42] <graft> and then relog so your groups will be updated
[07:42] <Kovecses> Frogzoo, ahh..... well i guess they gotta do what they gotta do
[07:42] <graft> so long as they don't end up  like Debian!
[07:43] <ejofee> noumaan: i guess simply mentioning it on the bottom of each page would be enough (something like "copylefted under gpl")
[07:43] <graft> are they pushing back enough for KDE4 to be in dapper?
[07:43] <Frogzoo> Kovecses: I just don't see any reason to upgrade atm - breezy meets all my needs
[07:43] <Kovecses> graft, the process of making .debs is long
[07:43] <Hobbsee> graft: definetly not
[07:43] <Kovecses> Frogzoo, oh i totally agree
[07:44] <CoolGal22> Anyone tell me how to install KDE 3.5 in Ubuntu from a disc?
[07:44] <graft> Frogzoo: it's not about needs, it's about WANTS
[07:44] <Frogzoo> graft: lol :D
[07:44] <Kovecses> Frogzoo, although im on gentoo atm
[07:44] <CoolGal22> I am confused by "konstruct"
[07:44] <ejofee> noumaan: however, i recommend that you use english instead of urdu, as most people in the usa have strong difficulties in understanding urdu
[07:44] <Kovecses> CoolGal22, add the repo.. and apt-get it
[07:44] <ejofee> noumaan: (that was a joke) :)
[07:45] <Frogzoo> ejofee: phew...
[07:45] <DarthShrine> graft, How do I add my user to the audio group?
[07:45] <CoolGal22> Kove, is it in the repo yet?
[07:45] <CoolGal22> I dont think it is
[07:45] <graft> DarthShrine: sudo adduser whoeverthefuck audio
[07:45] <Kovecses> CoolGal22, not in the main repo... but there are repos
[07:45] <Frogzoo> DarthShrine: sudo vi /etc/group & add your user id to audio
[07:46] <ejofee> Frogzoo: were you getting ready for another reply? :)
[07:46] <CoolGal22> Kove I am not downloading 100 MB of stuff on a 14.4 modem when I have it on a DVD already
[07:46] <DarthLappy> I hate not having used Linux for a while...I forgot everything and I feel like a noob
[07:46] <Kovecses> CoolGal22, what do you have on dvd
[07:46] <CoolGal22> KDE 3.5, all of the files
[07:47] <CoolGal22> all the tar files
[07:47] <graft> tar files?!
[07:47] <Kovecses> CoolGal22, have fun with that
[07:47] <graft> you're going to build KDE from scratch?
[07:47] <CoolGal22> It is a prepackaged DVD, I bought it
[07:47] <cafuego> Don't download tar files for Ubuntu.
[07:47] <Frogzoo> ejofee: I wasn't sure where that was headed
[07:47] <cafuego> Ubuntu is pre-built, putting some self-compiled unpatched source on top will _break_ things.
[07:47] <CoolGal22> graft, I hear it takes a couple days to compile but many people on the forums I visit seem to have done it
[07:48] <graft> yeah, maybe
[07:48] <cafuego> CoolGal22: A better bet is to order a free Dapper CD when it is released.
[07:48] <graft> people have also shot themselves in the foot
[07:48] <Kovecses> CoolGal22, yeah but in the end it wont be worth it
[07:48] <graft> but i'm not gonna do it
[07:48] <CoolGal22> When will Dapper be released?
[07:48] <FlannelKing> CoolGal22: June 1
[07:48] <Frogzoo> 1 june supposedly
[07:48] <cafuego> June, looks like
[07:48] <Russ_> haha
[07:48] <graft> CoolGal22: go visit a friend with a cable modem, download the debs and burn them to a disk
[07:48] <Kovecses> CoolGal22, if you want to compile use gentoo
[07:48] <CoolGal22> I am a newb so I have two discs, one for Ubuntu and one for Mandriva 2006
[07:49] <CoolGal22> Honestly Mandriva is slightly easier
[07:49] <Kovecses> mandriva sucks
[07:49] <FlannelKing> CoolGal22: wait for Ubuntu 6  to decide that ;)
[07:49] <jehnx> Mandriva definitely has the easiest installation, but you'll likely enjoy ubuntu more.
[07:49] <CoolGal22> It is what it is, but for me EVERYTHING worked outta the box
[07:49] <Kovecses> ubuntu, gentoo.  only ways to go... or fedora
[07:49] <cafuego> CoolGal22: You can use 'Syanptic' to generatye a package download script, which you can run on another box with decent internet access.
[07:49] <Frogzoo> CoolGal22: that will happen sometimes - even for windows ;)
[07:50] <Kovecses> CoolGal22, think of it this way..... you take a couple days to compile or a day to download the ubuntu packages that install in 5 minutes
[07:50] <CoolGal22> On Ubuntu I had to change the xorg.conf file to recognixe proper resolution
[07:50] <Frogzoo> CoolGal22: that's very hardware dependent
[07:50] <lunari> Is there a command to delete a directory from the shell and everything that's in the directory also?
[07:51] <Kovecses> CoolGal22, for the record....... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ... would have set your reso
[07:51] <Frogzoo> lunari: rm -rf xxx           (take care you name the right directory, using '.' is bad practice)
[07:51] <Phlosten^> lunari, 'rm -r directory'
[07:51] <CoolGal22> However, Ubuntu does seem to have the balance for a newd, easy but challenging enough to learn..Nothing as hard as Slackware (what a nightmare for me) and not as newb oriented as Mandriva
[07:52] <DarthLappy> graft, Well, now that command runs, nothing comes out of my headphones or speakers though. Also, when I was in the LiveCD, I remember having to change the audio device.
[07:52] <Kovecses> CoolGal22, ever try gentoo?
[07:52] <CoolGal22> I hear a ton about gentoo but I hear you have to compile it yourself..Sounds worse than Slackware to me
[07:52] <cafuego> Kovecses: P'ah. Compared to Slack 3 gentoo is for kiddies.
[07:52] <Blue-Steel>  CoolGal22  nop
[07:52] <Frogzoo> CoolGal22: the big difference, for me, is documentation, the community, and stability
[07:52] <Blue-Steel>  it compiles itself with emerge
[07:53] <Kovecses> cafuego, how so..... this coming from a ubuntu user?
[07:53] <Blue-Steel> gentoo rocks ;)
[07:53] <IzeyJr> whats mcop stand for?
[07:53] <cafuego> Kovecses: I run Ubuntu *now* on *this* amchine, but haven't always :-)
[07:53] <CoolGal22> If I can find a disc at the bookstore I will try gentoo
[07:53] <Kovecses> cafuego, slack 3?
[07:53] <cafuego> Kovecses: Started with Slackware 3.0 on a 486
[07:53] <cafuego> Kovecses: The joy of a floppy install...
[07:54] <Kovecses> cafuego, oh i see........ i never said gentoo was hard?
[07:54] <CoolGal22> Ok back to my original q....On ubuntu i am having issues getting apps to minimize to my tray without dissapearing..Any trick I need to know?
[07:54] <Kovecses> cafuego, i think gentoo is ver very easy
[07:54] <graft> CoolGal22: which apps?
[07:54] <Blue-Steel> Kovecses  thanks  to the wiki and docs :)
[07:54] <cafuego> Kovecses: Yeah, just wastes so much time, though.
[07:54] <CoolGal22> Mainly Firestarter and Gaim
[07:54] <cafuego> (and raises the power bill)
[07:54] <CoolGal22> I even configured firestarter to go to my tray but it still will not..
[07:55] <graft> Firestarter...
[07:55] <roxanne> Can anyone help me?
[07:55] <CoolGal22> so I have to run it in a separate workspace
[07:55] <Frogzoo> CoolGal22: look for an appn option to minimize on close - at least for firestarter this is necessary
[07:55] <CoolGal22> On Mandriva, it behaves fine, nice little icon on the taskbar
[07:55] <graft> and for gaim i think
[07:55] <IzeyJr> when I try to setup audio in wine it crashes saying "Creating link /home/james/.kde/socket-IzeyJr.         can't create mcop directory"
[07:55] <Kovecses> cafuego, yeah it sucks waiting to compile....but i have installed everything..... ubuntu is for my lappy
[07:55] <CoolGal22> Frog, Already did..The box is checked
[07:55] <graft> actually no you can minimize gaim
[07:55] <roxanne> I just installed Ubuntu, and my computer is really slow.
[07:55] <Bytewalker> will a "Broadcom 802.11b/g WLAN" WIRELESS laptop thingy work??
[07:56] <noumaan> roxanne,  try ubuntulite
[07:56] <batman> bleh can someone please help me with installing my wifi with ndiswrapper... i did it before and used the same exact files but for some reason its not working now o.O
[07:56] <Frogzoo> CoolGal22: have you removed your messages applet from the toolbar?
[07:56] <Hobbsee> !tell Bytewalker about wireless
[07:56] <cafuego> Bytewalker: It will on Ubuntu Dapper (to be released in 2 1/2 months)
[07:56] <dmizer> i updated my thunderbird 1.5 with a new extention, and now its not looking in the right place for my mail settings.  my mail is still there, but it doesn't show up.
[07:56] <CoolGal22> Frogzoo, messages applet?
[07:56] <roxanne> I posted a message on a forum, but they told me to "disable nonessential services"
[07:56] <Frogzoo> CoolGal22: *notification*
[07:56] <graft> err sorry, Darth
[07:56] <graft> um... change the audio device?
[07:56] <roxanne> What is ubuntulite?
[07:56] <CoolGal22> Frog, I am not sure what u mean
[07:57] <DarthShrine> graft, Um, how?
[07:57] <noumaan> roxanne,  or go to synaptic and search for ICEWM install it and log back in on logon screen use sessions and change to ICEWM
[07:57] <cafuego> roxanne: What sort or cpu/ram does your computer have?
[07:57] <Kovecses> yeah what is ubuntulite
[07:57] <graft> DarthShrine: no i mean, what the heck do you mean by 'change the audio device'?
[07:57] <roxanne> what is synaptic?
[07:57] <Frogzoo> CoolGal22: try right click on menu bar -> add applet -> utilities -> notification area
[07:57] <Mabus06> what version of xchat comes with ubuntu?
[07:57] <roxanne> I know nothing, seriously I've been using this for a day.
[07:57] <Kovecses> 2.4.5
[07:57] <graft> Mabus06: what version of ubuntu?
[07:57] <Kovecses> i think
[07:57] <IzeyJr> man I'm ganna have to reinstall I am using gnome desktop why it is goin to KDE is unknown to me
[07:57] <dmizer> roxanne: it's your package manager.  it's how you add programs.
[07:58] <Mabus06> graft: breezy, 386
[07:58] <lunari> I just installed Breezy on another system of mine, had to edit the xorg.conf and such to get it to boot into x
[07:58] <lunari> and then
[07:58] <CoolGal22> Frogzoo Ur a genius, there pops Firestarter and gaim!
[07:58] <lunari> i fix it, reboot
[07:58] <roxanne> it's a 1.5 ghz with 256 kb
[07:58] <CoolGal22> on my toolbar
[07:58] <DarthShrine> graft, System->Preferences->Sound...There's an audio device box. On the LiveCD there were two options, and the one that wasn't selected by default worked.
[07:58] <Kovecses> IzeyJr, just pick gnome at login
[07:58] <lunari> log in, and it updates itself from ubuntu to edubuntu!
[07:58] <cafuego> You mean Mb, right?
[07:58] <Frogzoo> CoolGal22: well I do have my good days - glad this helped
[07:58] <roxanne> yeah...
[07:58] <roxanne> sorry
[07:58] <CoolGal22> LOL
[07:58] <lunari> automatically!, is there a way to change it back?
[07:58] <Bytewalker> THANKS BTW!!
[07:58] <serph> does ubuntu generate ipv6 IPs by default?
[07:58] <CoolGal22> Other than that annoyance, everything seems to work great on ubuntu now
[07:59] <roxanne> how do I change the package manager?
[07:59] <Frogzoo> roxanne: please don't do that
[07:59] <graft> DarthShrine: err, you mean like hw:0 or something?
[07:59] <CoolGal22> Does ubuntu come with mp3 support?
[07:59] <roxanne> ok
[07:59] <CoolGal22> or must I get a decoder from the repos?
[07:59] <Frogzoo> !tell CoolGal22 about restricted
[07:59] <DarthShrine> graft, I dunno.
[07:59] <cafuego> !restrictedformats
[07:59] <ubotu> I heard restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:00] <graft> well what's listed now?
[08:00] <DarthShrine> graft, In there? Nothing
[08:00] <roxanne> how do I disable nonessential services? I have no printer and no network.
[08:00] <DarthShrine> In alsamixer it says Realtek 880
[08:00] <graft> ah... you still have permissions problems, methinks
[08:01] <graft> although on what i'm not sure...
[08:01] <kingspawn> roxanne, system->admin->services
[08:01] <roxanne> I have so many questions! How would I change to ubuntu Lite?
[08:01] <lunari> whats the command to copy a file?
[08:01] <kingspawn> lunari, cp
[08:01] <roxanne> thanks
[08:01] <lunari> ty
[08:01] <CoolGal22> Frogzoo, restriced?
[08:01] <lunari> and where is the xorg.conf located once again?
[08:01] <lunari> lol
[08:02] <miguel> HI, I'm new to unbunu and linux. I'm not being able to play my mp3 files on ubuntu.
[08:02] <miguel> what should i do? dwnload some package?
[08:02] <kingspawn> !restrictedformats
[08:02] <ubotu> methinks restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here can be replaced by !FreeFormats
[08:02] <serph> miguel, look over here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:02] <dmizer> miguel: you need the w32codecs.
[08:03] <roxanne> does anyone have any suggestions which service to disable first?
[08:03] <graft> DarthShrine: do you get the same error message if you run alsamixer as user still?
[08:03] <roberto> c' qualcuno che parla l'italiano?
[08:03] <bluefoxicy> ubotu, sudo
[08:03] <ubotu> [sudo]  a command that will let users run commands as root. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:03] <Frogzoo> CoolGal22 check ubotu's pm
[08:03] <CoolGal22> Frogzoo I did but I dont understand what he is talking about
[08:03] <DarthShrine> graft, Nope
[08:03] <CoolGal22> he gave me a link but didnt explain
[08:03] <graft> that works ok?
[08:03] <frantic> quick question or two, can anyone tell me what version of mono is in dapper drake repositories?
[08:04] <graft> and mixer volume is up?
[08:04] <Frogzoo> CoolGal22: the wiki page explains how to install all proprietary drivers, codecs etc.
[08:04] <pk_volt> how do i find out what my ubuntu version is?
[08:04] <graft> by default it's usually at 0
[08:04] <jbritz22> is it possible to move files to a ntfs partition from linux?
[08:04] <Frogzoo> pk_volt: cat /etc/issue
[08:04] <frantic> not really jbritz
[08:04] <frantic> you can do it from the windows side thanks to a few programs that read ext partitions
[08:05] <Frogzoo> pk_volt: actually, cat /proc/version is preferable
[08:05] <jbritz22> Fracture, damn, that kinda sucks, I had like an 11 gb partition for music on windows for music, sucks I cant use it, I can read from it...but damn
[08:05] <CoolGal22> Frogzoo why do some distros come with mp3 support and others not?
[08:05] <frantic> if you really need to be able to write to a partition with both windows and linux, you should use a fat32 partition
[08:05] <graft> jbritz22: that's not really true, there's write support for ntfs in the latest kernels
[08:06] <graft> and i think it's even considered safe by now...
[08:06] <graft> but you might have to compile the module yourself
[08:06] <frantic> woah, since when?
[08:06] <frantic> oh hmm
[08:06] <graft> dunno, 2.6.8 or something?
[08:06] <frantic> well ok, anyone running dapper drake?
[08:06] <FlannelKing> yep.
[08:06] <cafuego> Nearly everyone on #ubuntu+1
[08:06] <jbritz22> graft, i think I have the latest kernel
[08:06] <graft> i am
[08:07] <Phlosten> frantic, try #ubuntu+1
[08:07] <frantic> can you tell me what version of mono dapper drake uses?
[08:07] <graft> jbritz22: yeah but they might not have enabled write support for ntfs in the module they built for ubuntu
[08:07] <jbritz22> graft, damn...
[08:07] <arrinmurr> isn't it only possible to modify existing files on a ntfs partition, not create new ones?
[08:07] <jbritz22> graft, can you give me a chmod command to at least try?
[08:08] <graft> chmod command?
[08:08] <jbritz22> well, something to change the permissions
[08:08] <jbritz22> doesnt chmod do that?
[08:09] <graft> yeah...
[08:09] <Phlosten> jbritz22, you need to modify /etc/fstab
[08:09] <graft> what do you want to chmod?
[08:09] <graft> arrinmurr: yeah you can't make new files...
[08:09] <Phlosten> or do a manually mount if it isnt already mounted
[08:09] <roccociro_> #hackernet
[08:09] <jbritz22> graft, /media/hda5
[08:09] <Phlosten> moron
[08:10] <roccociro_> #hacker
[08:10] <FlannelKing> #cheese
[08:10] <Phlosten> #moron
[08:10] <graft> hmm... #moron actually sounds like a fun channel
[08:10] <TPS> hello
[08:10] <graft> !ask
[08:11] <TPS> does anyone in here have kde ubuntu?
[08:11] <graft> kubuntu
[08:11] <graft> i do
[08:11] <Phlosten> the world is full of too many morons, and that aint fun
[08:11] <gimmulf> When is next ubuntu version released?
[08:11] <graft> some of them are even president
[08:11] <TPS> i like gnome
[08:11] <graft> june, gimmulf
[08:11] <gimmulf> oki :)
[08:11] <Phlosten> graft, oddly enough, yes
[08:11] <Madpilot> gimmulf, June 1st, I think
[08:11] <frantic> juuuunne??? i was thinking it'd be aprilish
[08:11] <graft> it was supposed to be...
[08:11] <Phlosten> pushed back 6 weeks
[08:11] <TPS> i just installed ubuntu today
[08:12] <jbritz22> graft, /media/hda5 is what I wanna chmod, whats the command to make it writeable by anyone
[08:12] <TPS> its sweet
[08:12] <frantic> fair enough
[08:12] <Phlosten> ish
[08:12] <TPS> i like slackware better though
[08:12] <Phlosten> jbritz22, forget the chmod reference
[08:12] <gimmulf> Is there any great framework to use for webbdevelopers in linux btw? im currently just using VIM but it takes time, would be great with some kind of developing platform
[08:12] <Frogzoo> jbritz22: the perms of the device don't matter but the perms on the mounted file system
[08:12] <gimmulf> framework maybe wasnt the best word
[08:13] <frantic> ok please, how can i find out what packages are currently in dapper drake repositories
[08:13] <Phlosten> jbritz22, do you want to mount that device read/write everytime you boot ubuntu?
[08:13] <ejofee> how do i specify it in bum that i want a certain service to be run at the next startup?
[08:13] <acetech> gimmulf: checkout screem and bluefish
[08:13] <jbritz22> phlosten, if you mean, be able to read/write to it everytime, yes
[08:13] <gimmulf> oki
[08:13] <Phlosten> frantic, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[08:13] <frantic> thanks
[08:13] <KakiPukul> hi ubuntu'ers
[08:14] <zErO-bReAk> ai alguien de chile?
[08:14] <Phlosten> jbritz22, you need to open the /etc/fstab file in a terminal text editor and modify it
[08:14] <Frogzoo> !es
[08:14] <Pietras1988> http://s2.bitefight.pl/c.php?uid=35036
[08:14] <ejofee> what is the meaning of k20 and s20?
[08:14] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:14] <Phlosten> jbritz22, with 'sudo'
[08:14] <Phlosten> jbritz22, do you know how to do that?
[08:14] <frantic> oh excellent, mono 1.1.13
[08:14] <graft> gimmulf: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=ebe7b79cc4b1c5da24b809e79a9a8957&t=409044
[08:14] <jbritz22> Phlosten, yup, i got it in gedit now
[08:14] <KakiPukul> ejofee: L those are "kill" and "start" script with their order
[08:14] <jbritz22> Phlosten, what do I change
[08:15] <Phlosten> jbritz22, have you opened it as a SU?
[08:15] <jbritz22> yes
[08:15] <jbritz22> phlosten, http://pastebin.com/615703
[08:16] <ejofee> KakiPukul: wow, cool... but why do half of my services have priority 20? what does this mean? "do not start"?
[08:16] <Phlosten> jbritz22, follow the format of the other entries, append an extra line at the bottom
[08:17] <DarthLappy> graft, Well, now that command runs, nothing comes out of my headphones or speakers though. Also, when I was in the LiveCD, I remember having to change the audio device.
[08:17] <DarthLappy> Oops
[08:17] <DarthLappy> Success! Is what I meant to say.
[08:17] <KakiPukul> ejofee: , do you know how init start services?
[08:18] <jbritz22> http://pastebin.com/615704 does that look right?
[08:18] <Phlosten> *loooks*
[08:18] <graft> DarthLappy: what was your issue?
[08:18] <DarthLappy> graft, I needed to log out I think. Hehe
[08:18] <graft> ah
[08:18] <graft> yeah that's annoying about groups
[08:19] <graft> one of the few basic flaws in the Lunix operating system
[08:19] <DarthLappy> Oh well, guess I should auto modprobe those modules now?
[08:19] <dj-fu> ejofee, priority 20 means 'only run when nothing else is running'
[08:19] <dj-fu> iirc.
[08:19] <graft> yeh
[08:19] <ejofee> KakiPukul: i don't know... i guess it's something like i see in msconfig.exe startup tab, right?
[08:19] <Phlosten> jbritz22, where'd you get all the option tags from?
[08:19] <zF> what can I use in Ubuntu to extract rars?
[08:19] <KakiPukul> nay,, ejofee
[08:19] <dj-fu> zF, rar
[08:19] <dj-fu> (/clap)
[08:20] <jbritz22> phlosten, just took it from the other one
[08:20] <ejofee> dj-fu: i thought priority 20 simply meant "this app is the 20th to be started"
[08:20] <miguel> thank u guys. mp3 works now.
[08:20] <KakiPukul> init will start services according to the file sys default file tree, in order A-Z 1-20
[08:20] <zF> dj-fu, thanks a lot - very helpful
[08:20] <KakiPukul> 1-99 :)
[08:20] <Phlosten> jbritz22, well the 'ro' will mount it read-only
[08:20] <zF> what can I use in Ubuntu to extract rars?
[08:20] <Phlosten> jbritz22, you dont want that
[08:20] <dj-fu> zF, 'unrar'
[08:20] <dj-fu> zF, `apt-cache show unrar`
[08:21] <graft> jbritz22: that last line doesn't belong there, eh
[08:21] <zF> dj-fu, I have unrar-free
[08:21] <zF> but both unrar and rar are not coming up as commands in bash.
[08:21] <dj-fu> It's on the multiverse.
[08:21] <KakiPukul> in order to get "KXX" script will be executed first, where XX start from -00 till 99, ejofee, listening? nvm
[08:21] <zF> Yes, I have the package.
[08:21] <ejofee> what priority should i choose in order for a service to *actually* run?
[08:21] <ejofee> KakiPukul: i am following, yes
[08:22] <zF> unrar-free is already the newest version.
[08:22] <zF> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 26 not upgraded.
[08:22] <Phlosten> jbritz22, just checking something, bear with me
[08:22] <dj-fu> Setting up unrar (3.5.4-0.1) ...
[08:22] <dj-fu> What's unrar-free?
[08:23] <jbritz22> graft, ok
[08:23] <lunari> Is there a way to check to see which video card driver is actually being used?
[08:23] <KakiPukul> and next after all the "KXX" scripts are done... init continues to "SXX" where XX is still 00 till 99, scripts with lower number is executed first, because that's how linux read the fs...
[08:23] <KakiPukul> so, to setup a script at lower priority, XX must be very high, 99 for example
[08:24] <ejofee> KakiPukul: what is the purpuse of their being so confusing for the beginner?
[08:24] <Phlosten> jbritz22, change it to '/dev/hda5  /mnt/hda5  ntfs  defaults  0 0'
[08:25] <Phlosten> jbritz22, you then need to create the /mnt/hda5 directory
[08:25] <KakiPukul> ejofee: , the basic idea that kill script first, and then start script later
[08:25] <Phlosten> jbritz22, then prob best to reboot
[08:25] <KakiPukul> K comes before S in English alphabet right?
[08:25] <jbritz22> phlosten, is that right, http://pastebin.com/615710 then jkust mkdir /mnt/hda5
[08:25] <eddie> hi everyone, I'm having problems running "apt-get install" when I install packeges
[08:25] <Phlosten> jbritz22, yer
[08:26] <Phlosten> jbritz22, to save rebooting you could unmount it (if you have it mounted now) and then run 'mount -a'
[08:26] <jbritz22> phlosten, ok, how do I unmount
[08:27] <Phlosten> jbritz22, what did mount it with?
[08:27] <jbritz22> jbritz22, just a simple script
[08:27] <jbritz22> jbritz22, someone in here told me about it
[08:27] <Phlosten> jbritz22, your in gnome?
[08:28] <jbritz22> Phlosten, fluxbox
[08:28] <Pistahh> hi
[08:28] <DrBanzai> Hi
[08:29] <lunari> In my Xorg.0.log it says: LoadModule: "fglrx" then a few lines down.. Module fglrx: vendor="FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc." compiled for 6.8.0, module version = 8.23.7 Module class: X.org Video Driver ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 0.7
[08:29] <lunari> Does that mean that it IS using the fglrx driver? so I have hardware acceleration?
[08:29] <graft> lunari: depends if you have the right libs installed
[08:29] <Pistahh> I have a fresh install of flight4+upgrade from the net. I get ip address by dhcp. When I boot, I get the ip address but /etc/resolv.conf is not updated by the nameserver. If I manually do an ifdown+ifup eth0, then it is updated. Is this a known problem?
[08:30] <graft> the real test is to run fgl_glxgears in X
[08:30] <Phlosten> jbritz22, to be honest i havent ever unmounted anything, you could just reboot?
[08:30] <lunari> because I am only getting around 30fps on the screensaver with the ants, and under 400 in glxgears
[08:30] <jbritz22> one sec
[08:30] <jbritz22> anyone in here know how to unmount from terminal?
[08:30] <lunari> which is what I got using the regular ati driver that comes with ubuntu
[08:31] <lunari> brb
[08:31] <dj-fu> jbritz22, 'unmount /path/to/mount'
[08:31] <DrBanzai> lunari, also which kernel are you using?
[08:31] <Phlosten> jbritz22, just noticed it may be 'umount'
[08:32] <DrBanzai> Also, 'umount /dev/whatever' works too, if you know the /dev name
[08:32] <graft> jbritz22: umount <directory>
[08:32] <jbritz22> ok
[08:32] <jbritz22> thanks
[08:32] <dragoon> hey guys, whats the kernel source package called in ubuntu ?
[08:32] <Phlosten> knew it was simple, just couldnt think
[08:32] <dragoon> for the latest 2.6 kernel in 5.10
[08:32] <graft> linux-source-2.6.whatever
[08:32] <dj-fu> kernel header or kernel source?
[08:32] <dragoon> source
[08:33] <Phlosten> brb
[08:33] <dj-fu> apt-cache search `uname -r`|grep source
[08:33] <dragoon> thanks guys
[08:33] <dj-fu> may just be linux-kernel-source
[08:33] <dj-fu> is on Dapper anyway
[08:34] <jbritz22> ok im gonna try it now
[08:34] <jbritz22> got it unmounted and mounted succesfullymethinks
[08:34] <dragoon> dj-fu: can i upgrade to dapper easily ?
[08:34] <dragoon> without reinstalling
[08:34] <dj-fu> Dunno about easily
[08:34] <DrBanzai> Anybody had any luck getting a BroockTree 878 working under Ubuntu?
[08:34] <dj-fu> will be a lot of packages
[08:34] <dragoon> dj-fu: that doesnt bother me
[08:35] <dj-fu> then sure
[08:35] <dragoon> would i just need to change the entrys in my apt config ?
[08:35] <dj-fu> replace all the 'breezy' with 'dapper' in your /var/apt/sources.list and apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:35] <dragoon> thanks
[08:35] <graft> apt-get update first, obviously
[08:35] <dragoon> yeah
[08:35] <DrBanzai> Will upgrading like that screw up the things that my "extras" CD did?
[08:35] <graft> anyone here run dovecot?
[08:36] <dragoon> this is one of those times i want faster internet then 512k adsl
[08:36] <graft> DrBanzai: it'll just upgrade... if there's newer packages, they'll be installed... if there aren't, it'll stay in place
[08:36] <DrBanzai> Sweet...
[08:36] <DrBanzai> Thanks graft
[08:36] <jbritz22> Phlosten, ok, I dont think I can access it at allnow
[08:37] <dragoon> dj-fu: is dapper overly stable ?
[08:37] <graft> dapper is plenty stable
[08:37] <dj-fu> dragoon, it's stable enough for me to use.. but I like unstable things. I just like runing the latest packages
[08:37] <dj-fu> but in most cases, yes, It's stable.
[08:37] <dj-fu> in the sense of a final release stable, no, it's not.
[08:37] <Phlosten> jbritz22, did you 'mount -a'?
[08:37] <jbritz22> Phlosten, yes
[08:37] <dragoon> dj-fu: seeing i run ~x86 gentoo on my other boxes :)
[08:38] <graft> so... what's after dapper, anyway?
[08:38] <DrBanzai> Is it safe to assume that dapper is the latest release?
[08:38] <Phlosten> jbritz22, no errors?
[08:38] <graft> dapper is the latest not-yet-release
[08:38] <farous> anyone know of a good program to capture what is happening on the screen and capture sound from my mike. I am trying to make a wmv presentation and need something to capture the screen in video mode
[08:38] <jbritz22> Phlosten, none, but say in, amaroK i get an error, and it says cannat access hda5
[08:38] <zF> Question
[08:38] <Pistahh> farous: try google linux+create+screencast
[08:39] <zF> How can I transfer files from my Linux partition to my windows partition?
[08:39] <farous> thanx Pistahh
[08:39] <Phlosten> jbritz22, you created the directory ok? you can see if in a file browser?
[08:39] <zF> Google has nothing for me :(
[08:39] <dj-fu> dragoon, Gentoo looked alright, I don't have the time to wait around for my base system to compile though
[08:39] <Madpilot> DrBanzai, Dapper hasn't been fully released yet - there are betas available to test, if you're brave
[08:39] <dj-fu> Brave people rock
[08:39] <dragoon> welll in..... 3.5 hours ill be running dapper on here (laptop)
[08:39] <jbritz22> Phlosten, I dotn wanna load nautilus up cause it messes with my flux, any alternativces
[08:39] <dj-fu> Test it out, show it off - it's beautiful.
[08:39] <dragoon> dj-fu: thats when you use stage3
[08:39] <DrBanzai> Ahh, ok, thanks Madpilot
[08:39] <dragoon> i end up recompiling the base system anyway
[08:40] <dragoon> i use distcc, so i have about 5 pcs that are 2ghz + compiling simultaneously
[08:40] <cuen> so if you have older hardware, do you turn to gentoo or linux os that work well with old hardware?
[08:41] <zF> How can I transfer files from my Linux partition to my windows partition?
[08:41] <Daskies> What is the folder fonts are stored in?
[08:41] <frantic> compiling your own packages is overrated
[08:41] <DrBanzai> zF mount your windows partition under Linux, and just copy the files over
[08:42] <Seveas> Daskies, ~/.fonts and /usr/share/fonts
[08:42] <jbritz22> Phlosten, any ideas?
[08:42] <frantic> it's highly debatable whether your executables are going to be any faster, and the time you spend compiling is certainly going to outweigh it
[08:42] <zF> DrBanzaiy: You cannot copy from Linux to windows in Linux.
[08:42] <Daskies> Seveas, Thanks
[08:42] <dragoon> yes you can
[08:42] <dragoon> its called fat32
[08:42] <dragoon> ;)
[08:42] <DrBanzai> Says you, I've done it...
[08:42] <dragoon> or captive-ntfs
[08:42] <zF> Seveas: what's the program (or web app) used to copy files from Linux --> Windows?
[08:42] <farous> jbritz22: just use natalius --no-desktop. This will preserve your desktop and will not mess anything
[08:42] <dragoon> that uses the windwos ntfs.sys to read/write ntfs
[08:42] <farous> jbritz22: how does natalius mess your flux ? it is working flawlessly here
[08:42] <jbritz22> farous, sweet
[08:42] <KonphuzeD> hey there, unfortunately ive come across my first failed ubuntu install
[08:43] <jbritz22> farous, last time the wallpaper covered my menu bar and I couldnt access anything
[08:43] <zF> DrBanzai: If you're correct, excuse me for being ignorant.
[08:43] <DrBanzai> Well zF, first is your windows partition Fat32 or NTFS?
[08:43] <zF> NTFS.
[08:43] <farous> jbritz22: to get the fonts. run gnome-settings-daemon first put it in your startup
[08:43] <DrBanzai> Ok, and which Linux do you use?
[08:43] <alimh> I'm using Ubuntu on my laptop. Where can I change parameters of powernowd when the comptuer starts?
[08:43] <farous> jbritz22: the no desktop option will do the trick. otherwise check roxfiler
[08:44] <jbritz22> Phlosten, i can acceess hda5 with nautilus
[08:44] <jbritz22> Phlosten, dunno why amaroK is being whiny
[08:45] <LesleyW> KonphuzeD, what went wrong?
[08:45] <DrBanzai> zF?  Which Linux do you use?  I assume Ubuntu, but which version?
[08:45] <zF> DrBanzai Ubuntu Dapper Drake
[08:45] <zF> I know there's a program in Windows that allows you to copy
[08:45] <zF> Even a web app
[08:45] <KonphuzeD> 80 gig sata drive that was preformatted as 40GB dedicated to a Fresh WinXP install (no hassles or problems there yet) leaving the rest to be dedicatd to ubuntu install. This went fine until the buntu install was formatting the remainder of the drive. it seemed to hang and fail formatting / and or /swap each time
[08:45] <DrBanzai> zF, ok, the only way I know to do it, is from the command prompt...
[08:45] <farous> ok than you all
[08:45] <farous> .exit
[08:45] <zF> Seveas: Do youk now the program that allows you to copy from your Linux partition in Windows?
[08:46] <jbritz22> Phlosten, in amarok I get an error, could not enter folder /mnt/root, do I have to run amarok as root?
[08:46] <dragoon> zF: what filesystem ?
[08:46] <frantic> there's a kernel mod for windows that allows you to read ext partitions like normal disks
[08:46] <zF> dragoon: NTFS
[08:46] <KonphuzeD> i used the rescue cd as indicated and got the 2 partitions formatted succesffully and did another install attempt
[08:46] <frantic> one sec, i have it on my windows partition, i'll look
[08:46] <KakiPukul> KonphuzeD:  formatted using, the ubuntu's installer formatter or gparted?
[08:46] <dragoon> zF: your linux partition
[08:46] <zF> dragoon: ext 3
[08:46] <frantic> there's explore2fs which is a program
[08:46] <dragoon> cant write to it in windows
[08:46] <dragoon> can read, just not write
[08:46] <KonphuzeD> first install formatter then rescue disk qtparted isnt it?
[08:46] <frantic> there's also Ext2IFS
[08:47] <dragoon> cant write to ext3
[08:47] <zF> frantic: that's the one, thanks
[08:47] <HymnToLife> dragoon> wrong
[08:47] <HymnToLife> http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/
[08:47] <zF> !explore2fs
[08:47] <dragoon> i know what it is
[08:47] <dragoon> and when ive used it
[08:47] <dragoon> it hasnt written
[08:47] <KonphuzeD> then the install by passed the format part and started unpacking files which got to unpacking mii to 42% and then appeared to freeze again
[08:47] <HymnToLife> dragoon> worked like a charm for me
[08:48] <dragoon> mok
[08:48] <KakiPukul> KonphuzeD: did you install fine with other OSes installers?
[08:48] <jbritz22> whats the command to run a program as root?
[08:48] <kingspawn> jbritz22, sudo
[08:48] <ph1qt10n> how can i remove the mounted icon on the desktop?
[08:48] <jbritz22> ok
[08:48] <HymnToLife> or gksudo if it's a grphical appp
[08:49] <jbritz22> thanks kingspawn
[08:49] <damian_> whats this
[08:49] <damian_> checking for g++... no
[08:49] <damian_> checking for c++... no
[08:49] <damian_> checking for gpp... no
[08:49] <damian_> checking for aCC... no
[08:49] <damian_> checking for CC... no
[08:49] <damian_> checking for cxx... no
[08:49] <damian_> checking for cc++... no
[08:49] <damian_> checking for cl... no
[08:49] <damian_> checking for FCC... no
[08:49] <damian_> checking for KCC... no
[08:49] <damian_> checking for RCC... no
[08:49] <dragoon> damian_: stop!
[08:49] <HymnToLife> !tell damian_ about pastebin
[08:49] <alimh> when in the laptop boot process does powernod get called? how do i modify the parameters?
[08:49] <frantic> haha looks like u need compilerz
[08:49] <damian_> checking for xlC_r... no
[08:49] <kingspawn> damian_, sudo apt-get install build-essential - and dont paste here
[08:49] <damian_> checking for xlC... no
[08:49] <damian_> checking for C++ compiler default output file name... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
[08:49] <damian_> See `config.log' for more details.
[08:49] <dragoon> damian_: stop ffs
[08:49] <damian_> damian@thiscomputer:~/lmms$
[08:49] <damian_> oops didnt mean to paste so much
[08:49] <KakiPukul> yo, pastebin please
[08:49] <Seveas> !tell damian_ about compiling
[08:49] <Seveas> !tell damian_ about pastebin
[08:49] <Seveas> !tell damian_ about rules
[08:49] <KakiPukul> damian_: , btw please isntall "build-essential" first
[08:49] <KonphuzeD> i believe mii is related to the nforce 430/410 chipset - eth controller on the board as the bios enables setting the onboard gig ethernet to mii mode  aswell the installers network autoconfig failed even though the router hands out dhcp
[08:50] <ph1qt10n> how can i remove the mounted icon on the desktop?
[08:50] <HymnToLife> ph1qt10n> right click > Unmount
[08:50] <KonphuzeD> XP installed with out a hitch
[08:50] <KakiPukul> "sudo apt-get install build-essential" >> damian_, or install it using GUI tools like "synaptic" or "aptitude"
[08:51] <number5> how can i configure right video card driver for a DELL desktop
[08:51] <KonphuzeD> with xp i then installed the motherboard cd drivers, avg, spybotS&D, blackvipered the services. all with out a hitch
[08:51] <ph1qt10n> HymnToLife: the question was to remove the icon, not to unmount the volume
[08:51] <KonphuzeD> oh mozilla of course and uninstalled outlook and msn
[08:51] <HymnToLife> ph1qt10n> well, unmounting it kind of works =)
[08:52] <HymnToLife> besides that I don't know...
[08:52] <damian_> tyanks
[08:52] <damian_> whats this mean now
[08:52] <damian_> checking QTDIR... configure: error: *** QTDIR must be defined, or --with-qtdir option given
[08:52] <ph1qt10n> how can i remove the mounted icon on the desktop?
[08:52] <damian_> ive always wondered that too
[08:53] <damian_> i use computer://
[08:53] <KonphuzeD> does any one know for sure what this mii pacakge is for
[08:53] <KakiPukul> libqt<version>-dev, damian_
[08:53] <KakiPukul> btw wth are you trying to compile, damian_?
[08:53] <damian_> KakiPukul: do i have to install that
[08:54] <damian_> yes imm just missing some packages
[08:54] <fyrestrtr> I am trying to build a program, and it is saying that evolution-data-server is not installed, but apt-get reports it as installed. Where is the prefix in ubuntu so I can pass the correct argument to configure?
[08:54] <KonphuzeD> im a tad concerned this install failure could be realated to the newness of the board and chipset from nvidia
[08:54] <damian_> oh what
[08:54] <damian_> LMMS
[08:55] <fyrestrtr> KonphuzeD: mii-tools ?
[08:55] <KonphuzeD> thus im curious if a dapper install might be required to make this work. Any input on that idea please
[08:55] <LesleyW> number5, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[08:55] <firebird619> ph1qt10n: check out http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75710.html        It explains there how to remove the icons for Ubuntu 5.10
[08:55] <number5> LesleyW, thanks
[08:56] <KonphuzeD> fyrestrtr, im not familiar with mii or mii-tools  .   do you know what mii stands for?
[08:56] <ph1qt10n> firebird619: thanks bro
[08:56] <LesleyW> number5, hope it helps, if not, use the service tag and look up the hardware details on Dell's website
[08:56] <fyrestrtr> no, but mii-tools is for configuring ethernet cards.
[08:56] <firebird619> np
[08:56] <KonphuzeD> hmmmm
[08:57] <alimh> from which file is powernowd called on boot?
[08:57] <KonphuzeD> well eth ports are suppose to be simple but realtech based nvidia GB eth ports could easily be another story
[09:00] <jbritz22> whats the best terminal app to run in fluxbox
[09:00] <kingspawn> alimh, i suggest you grep the files in /etc for powernowd
[09:00] <frantic> i've always liked Eterm
[09:00] <KonphuzeD> wow cool im gonna try this easyubuntu on my box here
[09:01] <jbritz22> frantic sweet theanks
[09:01] <jbritz22> frantic sweet thanks*
[09:01] <alimh> kingspawn: i did "more * | grep powernowd" in the /etc directory and did not find anything
[09:02] <fyrestrtr> alimh: grep -R powernowd /etc
[09:03] <alimh> fyrestrtr: oh... thanks. -R = recursive so it goes through all the subdirectories, correct?
[09:03] <KakiPukul> correcto
[09:05] <KonphuzeD> well away it goes
[09:06] <lunari> It's such a cool feeling to know you don't NEED windows for anything
[09:06] <lunari> I was just able to play WoW emulating it with wine!
[09:06] <dj-fu> Feh.
[09:06] <dj-fu> I can't get it working properly on Dapper.
[09:07] <pabrero> albelda
[09:07] <dj-fu> Doesn't perform well, at all.
[09:07] <Frogzoo> KonphuzeD: fyrestrtr any idea how to set my eth0 to 10baseT-FD as default? no autoneg?
[09:07] <lunari> Sure it doesn't run decent even.. but the fact that I can even run it in linux
[09:07] <lunari> 800x600 at about 15fps lol
[09:08] <KonphuzeD> yeah so whats the best project for running microsoft environment based games on ubuntu??
[09:08] <lunari> I don't know
[09:08] <vars> KonphuzeD, caldega
[09:08] <Frogzoo> KonphuzeD: wine usually
[09:08] <lunari> is caldega pretty good?
[09:08] <KonphuzeD> Frogzoo, System -> Admin -> Networking
[09:08] <vars> it sounds good
[09:08] <dj-fu> Cedega, not caldega
[09:08] <DrBanzai> I tried to use caldega to ply Ultima Online, and it didn't work.
[09:09] <dj-fu> never heard of caldega
[09:09] <number5> what does Cedega do? emulate a DirectX?
[09:09] <dj-fu> yes, number5 - reverse engineered DX9.
[09:09] <alimh> exit
[09:09] <mzinz> I'm looking a BMPx screenshots (I just installed it), and most of them have transparent playlists.. anyone know how to do that?
[09:09] <dj-fu> transset, maybe :P
[09:09] <lunari> wow
[09:09] <dj-fu> enable composite in X
[09:09] <lunari> they have a 14 day demo of cedega
[09:09] <lunari> I might have to check it out
[09:10] <ReWT_AxS> i need some serious help
[09:10] <jbritz22> what command is it to show me what applications are running, and whats the command to kill a certain application
[09:10] <ReWT_AxS> The only thing running fine is my failsafe session
[09:10] <KonphuzeD> ah, raw cacao beans makes it all better
[09:10] <dj-fu> ReWT_AxS, surely you should be able to haxor it.
[09:10] <ReWT_AxS> When I boot into my default session, I get an error GDM_Failsafe.GNOME.desktop is not installed?
[09:10] <dj-fu> with a name like that, one could only imagine your elite hacking skill
[09:10] <ReWT_AxS> I have no panels
[09:11] <ReWT_AxS> nor do I have buttons on my windows
[09:11] <ReWT_AxS> ?
[09:11] <DrBanzai> jbritz22 at the command prompt it's top to show the running processes and K from in there to kill one off
[09:11] <ReWT_AxS> Any ideas?
[09:12] <KonphuzeD> jbritz22,   simply    ps    for all software running,  ps auxw|grep $partialname    will list just a few you are looking for and provide the PID needed to kill it
[09:13] <KonphuzeD> jbritz22, then     kill -9 $PID    will abruptly drop the process
[09:13] <pabrero> ola
[09:13] <dj-fu> !es
[09:13] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:14] <ilba7r> !recording
[09:14] <ubotu> ilba7r: NO SPEAKE ENLISH! Try searching at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[09:14] <jbritz22> KonphuzeD, thanks :D
[09:14] <KonphuzeD> E: msttcorefonts: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1   ...   is there some way i can correct this or is it useless cause of being just microsoft fonts
[09:14] <ReWT_AxS> well, anyone have any help for meh?
[09:14] <ilba7r> anyone know what i should enable to enable sound recording. Mic is working, capturing is on but can not seem to record with gnome-sound-recorder
[09:14] <Hobbsee> KonphuzeD: pastebin the entire error?
[09:15] <Hobbsee> KonphuzeD: and do you have cabextract installed?
[09:15] <KonphuzeD> that is the entire error
[09:15] <ilba7r> KonphuzeD, did you have net problems
[09:15] <KonphuzeD> maybe there is more in a log file somewhere
[09:15] <KonphuzeD> i may have had net problems but I believe it was all predownloaded
[09:16] <KonphuzeD> i ran the easyubuntu scripts but may be just the script was downloaded before running.
[09:16] <KonphuzeD> everything after the mttsfonts installed successfully
[09:16] <dragoon> easyubuntu ?
[09:17] <KonphuzeD> http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org
[09:18] <KonphuzeD> ok i now have a window open for congiuring xserver-xorg for my ati card so if sometin goes wrong i'll be back after a reboot
[09:18] <ilba7r> anyone can help with sound recording i think it is just an option i need to enable
[09:18] <dragoon> crazy
[09:20] <bean> hi i need some help
[09:20] <mzinz> I just got winrar and unarchived it.  Is there a visual UI in the linux version? Or no?  When I execute rar it just gives me a list of possible parameters
[09:20] <bean> how can i extract 7-zip in ubuntu?
[09:20] <Frogzoo> mzinz: nautilus can handle rar
[09:21] <bean> it can't seem to handle 7-zip though
[09:21] <dragoon> mzinz: rar e extract
[09:21] <dragoon> er extracts
[09:21] <KonphuzeD> uh tricky question; enter amount of memory to be used by your video card.    - the card has memory on it already. is this querry looking for the amount of ram on the video card or the amount of mobo RAM to use as video ram??
[09:21] <mzinz> Frogzoo, meaning I didn't need to DL it?
[09:21] <dj-fu> KonphuzeD, the amoun of ram on the card
[09:21] <ilba7r> recording level meter is showing ok i can hear the sound but can not record why?
[09:21] <DrBanzai> The amount it already has
[09:21] <KakiPukul> KonphuzeD: , just leave it... it is no necessary
[09:21] <KonphuzeD> bean, you will find 7-zip with http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org
[09:22] <Frogzoo> mzinz: sudo apt-get install unrar
[09:22] <joachim-n> is OOo really so rubbish that I can't drag a file onto the window to open is???
[09:23] <Frogzoo> joachim-n: try the 2.0.2 test repo
[09:23] <Frogzoo> !tell joachim-n about ooo2
[09:23] <ilba7r> ooo2 is rubish it nearly broke the system here
[09:23] <mzinz> Frogzoo, thx
[09:24] <KonphuzeD> use kernel frame buffer device or no ?? is the one that could kill my xserver setup ??
[09:24] <KakiPukul> joachim-n: , there is no dnd in oo
[09:24] <KakiPukul> you rub the rubbish now
[09:25] <mzinz> What is Python?
[09:25] <fyrestrtr> a programming language
[09:25] <KakiPukul> it's a snake? mzinz :) nay interpreted programming language
[09:25] <mzinz> KakiPukul, oh, duh.
[09:26] <mzinz> XMMS is required if I want the mplayer plugin for mozilla? Do I have any alternatives?
[09:26] <KakiPukul> yes, gxine plugin... or totem plugins
[09:27] <DrBanzai> So...how come I don't get any audio when I use amarok?  Xmms works fine...
[09:27] <KonphuzeD> oh shit I just hit cancel
[09:27] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: OSS handles only one input at a time - so close xmms & try amarok
[09:28] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Okay, I've tried that already...
[09:28] <KakiPukul> you can configure amarok to use Alsa instead
[09:29] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: from amarok -> settings -> confgr amarok -> engine - check settings
[09:30] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, My choices are aRts or no engine
[09:31] <Blue-Steel> where is the grub.conf on ubuntu ? i m asking this because i will be installing windows in on a second partition and unless ubuntu/grub detects it i will have to edit the conf .
[09:31] <KonphuzeD> oh phew I redid easyubuntu but just the ati drivers and thus rexoncigure x-org and it all appears to happily be done now
[09:31] <KonphuzeD> a logout then in is the only way to be sure right
[09:31] <KakiPukul> Blue-Steel: , its "menu.lst" not "grub.conf"
[09:32] <KakiPukul> "/boot/grub/menu.lst", Blue-Steel
[09:32] <Blue-Steel> ah thank  you
[09:37] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, still here?
[09:37] <stoned> I dunno if I can wait another few weeks.  I want to isntall dapper right now.  I am on debian sid right, and I need a netinstall thingy for dapper
[09:38] <stoned> !dapper
[09:38] <ubotu> The next release of Ubuntu is Dapper Drake. Currently this is BETA software. Release date is June 1 - http://tinyurl.com/qyrkq. /join #ubuntu+1 for discussion
[09:38] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: mebbe try 'system -> prefs -> multimedia selector - sound output = oss
[09:39] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Hmmm...it was set to EDS...
[09:39] <Frogzoo> think oss should fix you up
[09:40] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Hmmm, I switched it to OSS, and hit the test button, and I get an error that says: Failed to construct pipeline for OSS
[09:40] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: you are running oss? not esd?
[09:40] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, To be honest, I'm not sure
[09:40] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: try alsa
[09:41] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: default is oss - still try also
[09:41] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: default is oss - still try alsa
[09:41] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Ok, the ALSA test works at least, which aRts didn't
[09:41] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: & amarok?
[09:41] <ReWT_AxS> okay i created a new user......and the error only seems to be on my main account?
[09:41] <DBO> frogzoo, whichis better, OSS or ALSA (both work for me)
[09:41] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, So now under amarok, do I set it to no engine, or aRts?
[09:42] <Frogzoo> DBO: esd is best - allows multiple, simultaneous sources
[09:42] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: try both?
[09:42] <ReWT_AxS> can anyne help me restore my account back to a previous state?
[09:42] <ReWT_AxS> maybe then the error will go away
[09:42] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, That would be nice...now when I have XMMS open, I don't get my gAIM sounds
[09:42] <damian_> awhats the thing i enable to get shadows and shuff like that
[09:43] <Frogzoo> !esd
[09:43] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Ok, if I set amarok to no engine, it says can't playback, no engine...so I'll try aRts
[09:44] <Frogzoo> what's the point in having a bot if they turn it off?
[09:44] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Hmmm, set to aRts, when I hit play nothing happens.  It dosen't even look like it's playing, in the player window
[09:44] <stoned> im on sid, how can i install ubutu dapper
[09:44] <Madpilot> !+botsnack
[09:44] <ubotu> :)
[09:44] <Madpilot> Frogzoo, it's not turned off :P
[09:44] <Frogzoo> !botsnack
[09:45] <ubotu> thanks frogzoo :)
[09:45] <Mabus06> What do I do when somebody tries to hack me? my system log is FULL of failed logins from the same user
[09:45] <Frogzoo> o_O
[09:45] <Madpilot> Frogzoo, ubotu probably sent you a pm w/ the esd info, it's a long factoid
[09:45] <DrBanzai> !esd
[09:45] <jbritz22> hey anyone here familiar with "fluxmenu"?
[09:45] <Frogzoo> Mabus06: please install a firewall so they can't get access to a remote logon
[09:45] <fek_> moin
[09:46] <Mabus06> Frogzoo: but do I report them or something, somewhere? The ip they tried at me from has an ssh server on right now
[09:47] <Frogzoo> Mabus06: your choice
[09:47] <dragoon> 1 hour 40 mins until im running dapper
[09:47] <jbritz22> anyone know how to edit fluxmenu's meny to run something from root
[09:47] <ReWT_AxS> the error is even in the recovery mode for this main account
[09:47] <ReWT_AxS> !ndiswrapper
[09:47] <ReWT_AxS> !tell ReWT_AxS about ndiswrapper
[09:47] <ReWT_AxS> arg
[09:47] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is, like, totally, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[09:47] <ReWT_AxS> anyone out there?
[09:47] <ReWT_AxS> how do I reinstall the gnome display manager?
[09:48] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: apt-get intall --reinstall gdm, or do it in synaptic. the real question is "why"
[09:48] <Madpilot> apt-get install, even - spelling counts on the command line :P
[09:49] <Frogzoo> o i c Madpilot, thx
[09:49] <topyli> Madpilot: "login failed. only perfect spellers may enter this system"
[09:49] <Madpilot> something like that :P
[09:50] <ReWT_AxS> topy, i did something to my ubuntu....now when i run as the user i created on install, i get the error, "GDM_Failsafe.GNOME.desktop is not installed" When I boot into my ubuntu, I have no panels, nor do I have buttons on any of my windows? the only thing that boots up on startx is nautilus
[09:50] <topyli> Madpilot: that was one of the entries in the "error message haiku" contest by salon magazine
[09:50] <ReWT_AxS> u think if i reinstall gdm it will fix it?
[09:50] <ReWT_AxS> Every other user works
[09:51] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: did you check 'output plugin' = oss?
[09:51] <schmirgo> hi, if i use dapper flight 5 can i use apt-get to update the distro lateron to the final release of dapper or do i have to reinstall?
[09:51] <Frogzoo> schmirgo: update should work - fingers x'd
[09:51] <schmirgo> Frogzoo: ok, ill give it a try ^^
[09:51] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: dunno, but if it only affects only one user, it's not the system's fault. your user's gnome session settings are broken
[09:51] <Frogzoo> schmirgo: but realise the update process is, like the rest of dapper, currently beta
[09:52] <ReWT_AxS> topyli, well how do I go about fixing it?
[09:52] <Mabus06> Frogzoo: is there more I can see in auth log? Like see what password they tried to enter on me?
[09:52] <schmirgo> Frogzoo: thats ok ;)
[09:52] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: that's what i was referring to by "dunno" :(
[09:52] <Frogzoo> Mabus06: /var/log/auth*
[09:52] <ph1qt10n> how can i convert RPM to DEB
[09:52] <ReWT_AxS> Anyone know how to fic a users gnome session setting?
[09:52] <ReWT_AxS> *fix
[09:53] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: i'd start deleting my gconf and gnome settings in my home directory, outside the gnome session
[09:53] <Mabus06> Frogzoo: what's the difference between auth.log and auth.0.log?
[09:53] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Well, now I have it set to ALSA as when I set it to OSS and test it, it gives that unable to create pipeline error
[09:54] <ReWT_AxS> topyli, how and what do I do after it's deleted?
[09:55] <weekang> hi
[09:55] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: sorry, I meant from amarok -> settings -> engine
[09:55] <weekang> i have trouble accessing a network windows share
[09:55] <weekang> drive
[09:55] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: there's an option for 'output plugin'
[09:56] <jbritz22> can anyone here help me with fluxbox menuy
[09:56] <Phlosten> jbritz22, find the fluxbox page on the wiki
[09:56] <topyli> ReWT_AxS: logout, login at the console, delete (or rename) the .gnonfd and .gconf directories
[09:56] <jbritz22> !fluxbox
[09:56] <ubotu> it has been said that fluxbox is a lightweight window manager.  Installation instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox.  More information at http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net
[09:57] <Phlosten> that one
[09:57] <jbritz22> I dont need installation instructions
[09:57] <jbritz22> Just need to know how to run something from root from the menu, putting sudo amarok doesnt work
[09:57] <Phlosten> jbritz22, read that page as there is information about fixing a menu issue with it
[09:57] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Well, under engine, the only choice I have is aRts, or no engine, and I don't see anyway to configure the engine it's self.
[09:57] <Phlosten> jbritz22, ah, try 'gksudo
[09:57] <Frogzoo> Mabus06: auth.log.0 is an archived log
[09:57] <jbritz22> Phlosten
[09:57] <ReWT_AxS> topyli, what would the command be, I'm kinda new to this...what will happen when these are deleted, and will i lose my information? (this is on my account i installed ubuntu with)
[09:57] <jbritz22> Phlosten, ok will do
[09:57] <Phlosten> jbritz22, graphical sudo
[09:58] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: half way down the page... output plugin
[09:58] <jbritz22> sweetness
[09:58] <Mabus06> Frogzoo: So what should I do? Call somebody, or just post in irc.2600.net that <IP_ADDRESS> has an open sshd server?
[09:58] <jbritz22> it worked man
[09:58] <jbritz22> thanks
[09:59] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Ok, I go under settings, and then I go to configure amarok, and under there I don't have anything that says output plugin
[09:59] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, On the left, I have "General, Apperance, Playback, OSD, Engine, Collection, Scrobbler"
[09:59] <dragoon> DrBanzai: try it
[10:00] <BugS> i upgraded to dapper yesterday, and now the system monitor is reporting 10 times less memory usage
[10:00] <BugS> how can that be ?
[10:00] <BugS> firefox and thunderbird used to take over 150MB of memory each
[10:00] <BugS> now i have 30MB for firefox and about 20MB for thunderbird
[10:01] <IzeyJr> I reinstalled my sound driver and made sure I booted in gnome and wine still wants to make a KDE folder and link to mcop any ideas on how to fix this?
[10:01] <razorclaw> how do i install the python source ?
[10:01] <RolfKaese|x> hay
[10:01] <jbritz22> why the hell does amarok lag my system so much when I run it from root, it never did this normally
[10:02] <RolfKaese|x> I have a major problem with my ubuntu / win xp :/
[10:02] <ReWT_AxS> topyli, what would the command be, I'm kinda new to this...what will happen when these are deleted, and will i lose my information? (this is on my account i installed ubuntu with) dunno if you seen this message haven't gotten a reply, sorry to be a pest :(
[10:02] <DarthShrine> Don't run it from root?
[10:02] <jbritz22> DarthShrine, I need to, otherwise can't access my partitions
[10:02] <DarthShrine> O_o
[10:02] <Matthewv> hi ESPOiG
[10:02] <ReWT_AxS> RolfKaese|x, , what's the problem?
[10:02] <DarthShrine> That doesn't sound normal
[10:03] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: my setup is different because I'm running esd, but under engine, there's gstreamer confign - output plugin
[10:03] <RolfKaese|x> yesterday i updated ubuntu since i didnt log on to it for few weeks
[10:03] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Which engine are you using?
[10:03] <basti__> what is that software called to rip cd's to mp3s?
[10:03] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: gstreamer
[10:03] <RolfKaese|x> it updated the kernel and some more stuff, and it told me that its recommended to reboot, so i did, but afterwards windows xp disappeared from GRUB menu
[10:03] <DarthShrine> basti__, LAME?
[10:03] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Ahh, see, I don't have that choice for some reason
[10:04] <RolfKaese|x> i looked up the menu.lst and the win xp entry is missing
[10:04] <DarthShrine> basti__, There are many.
[10:04] <ReWT_AxS> edit your grub boot menu and add it onto it?
[10:04] <RolfKaese|x> i re-added it but it doesnt work
[10:04] <basti__> DarthShrine: the easy one with a gui
[10:04] <RolfKaese|x> by trying to choose it from grub it told me filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x82
[10:04] <Frogzoo> DrBanzai: this will probably help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Amarok
[10:04] <RolfKaese|x> along with error 12 invalid device requested
[10:04] <ReWT_AxS> hmm dunno? did you check forums? a lot of poeple were having problems with windows dissappearing from grub
[10:04] <RolfKaese|x> :/
[10:05] <RolfKaese|x> y i did
[10:05] <basti__> DarthShrine: I read about it in a howto but forgot what it was called
[10:05] <RolfKaese|x> but nuthing helped :|
[10:05] <DrBanzai> Frogzoo, Thank you!
[10:05] <IzeyJr> razorclaw...why would ya want to do that when you can goto package manager and just install from there?
[10:05] <RolfKaese|x> now i went so far using my xp recovery cD
[10:05] <razorclaw> IzeyJr, wouldn't a apt-get source python work ?
[10:05] <ReWT_AxS> i dunno mate im having problems with my gnome display manager
[10:05] <Matthewv> RolfKaese|x  did u add it to menu.lst with the right options
[10:05] <RolfKaese|x> yup
[10:05] <RolfKaese|x> didnt work
[10:05] <RolfKaese|x> i could access it through gnome though
[10:06] <RolfKaese|x> BUT
[10:06] <IzeyJr> razorclaw....it would be bettter to go to they're website and DL it
[10:06] <RolfKaese|x> now with recovery console i used "fixmbr"
[10:06] <RolfKaese|x> and now the partition is missing from the table
[10:06] <razorclaw> IzeyJr, u mean www.python.org ?