[00:37] <jthan> Hey guys - I'm from the PA LoCO
[00:38] <jthan> I was actually curious if you guys could shed some light on Boulder.  I have applied to college at the University of Colorado and have yet to visit.  Pending my acceptance I am going to fly out.  But it's always good to hear what the natives have to say.


[03:33] <np> Hi, how can I change the Alt+F shortcut in QTerminal so I can use Alt+F in emacs? I've looked through the Openbox lxqt-rc.xml file and checked the shortcuts in QTerminal but I cannot see it.
 file —> Prefernces in qterminal and select the shortcut tab and then change it to something else np
[04:35] <np> Thanks lubot. I don't think the Alt+f keyboard shortcut can be configured from QTerminal. However, you can toggle the menu (Ctrl+Shift+M) which releases the Alt+f and Alt+b shortcuts to the terminal which will do for me.
[09:10] <kc2bez> np: If you go to file -> Preferences and tick the "No menu bar accelerator" it might help.
[11:23] <Lev39> Hello I can't seem to enter bios in order to boot from CD. Whenever I press f2 or esc it enters the gnu grub menu instead
[11:36] <bekzat> Hello
[11:36] <bekzat> Hi
[11:36] <bekzat> Iam using Lubnunt
[11:36] <bekzat> Really?
[11:36] <bekzat> Yes
[11:36] <bekzat> Cool)
[11:36] <bekzat> Hello, world!
[11:37] <bekzat> Hello, world!
[11:37] <bekzat> Hello, world!
[11:37] <bekzat> Hello, world!
[11:37] <bekzat> Hello, world!
[12:30] <np> kc2bez: Thanks, but I cannot see the tickbox in any of the Preferences tabs. FYI - fresh install of Lubuntu 20.04 (Qt 5.12.8, QTerminal 0.14.1).
 I’m looking for hardware req’ments for 21.04 and am coming up blank.
 Can I assume if the machine runs 20.04, it should be fine?
 Oh nvm.   Sorry
 Apt full-upgrade is the way I think.
[19:52] <Guest44> hi guys
[20:14] <el> inzo: if you ask your question here someone might understand/answer
[20:17] <inzo> ok
[20:18] <inzo> hola me gustaria saber por que Skype no se conecta luego de instalado
[20:18] <inzo> alguien me podria ayudar
[20:22] <krytarik> !es | inzo
[20:33] <lubuntu> Yo
 Do I need to install PPA for Anbox? (Ubuntu 20.10)
 you will yes, but I suggest you avoid Anbox, I couldn't get it installed on anything newer than 18.04 (I think it's suffering from bitrot)
 Right, what do you suggest for android emulator? (re @teward001: you will yes, but I suggest you avoid Anbox, I couldn't get it installed on anything newer than 18.04 (I think it's suffering from bitrot))
 base suggestion: find a non-Android solution for whatever you're emulating.
 In fact, I want run whatsapp on linux because of its new privacy policy. (don't want to use it but have to) 😖 (re @teward001: base suggestion: find a non-Android solution for whatever you're emulating.)
 well the first problem is, whatsapp needs a valid phone number and phone app that works to properly function.  so you will need that on your phone first.  then there's a web whatsapp client you can login to from your phone.  Unfortunately, if you don't have a phone number that works to do the first phase of verification you're not getting in
 so even with emulation i don't think you'll be able to get whatsapp working
 also running it on Linux doesn't make it any more secure
 so if security is your concern you're not going to get it.
 the closest you'll get to emulation that works is by installing Android Studio and its emulator tools on your system, and then use that thing's Emulator to run apps in an actual phone image.
 but you still won't get past that first phone # verification step
 Really thank you so much for your help. 🙏
 sorry it wasn't super helpful though.
 It was so helpful for me


[03:45] <kees> anyone around to talk me through bleeding-edge intel?  I've got stuff from the xorg-edgers PPA installed, but when I forced on UXA, 3d performance dropped by about 60%.
[07:09] <tjaalton> kees: still around? check the log if DRI is enabled
[07:41] <tjaalton> hmm, mfb has been disabled and xf1bpp purged from the server sources.. maybe time to let x-x-v-sunbw2 go :)
[16:51] <kees> tjaalton: yup, dri2 is enabled
[16:56] <tjaalton> kees: hum, ok. maybe it needs a newer mesa or something
[16:57] <tjaalton> there is a "2008-q4" branch available, dunno when it's going to be merged to master. maybe that could help
[17:03] <kees> tjaalton: yeah, I'm reading http://intellinuxgraphics.org/download.html at the moment
[17:03] <kees> tjaalton: sounds like the ppa libdri2 is a few days behind
[17:08] <tjaalton> kees: heh, could be
[17:24] <tormod> I think stuff that came in libdrm after c86d431f is mostly kernel-mode-setting stuff
[17:25] <tjaalton> kees: which app are you using for testing?
[17:25] <kees> tjaalton: I'm using tremulous
[17:25] <kees> tormod: any ideas what I should change/tweak?
[17:25] <kees> right now the only non-default thing I have set in xorg.conf is to use UXA
[17:26] <tormod> kees: I have very little hands-on on intel. sitting on one now over Christmas but haven't tested all the edgy stuff.
[17:27] <tormod> are there any complaints in the log?
[17:27] <kees> tormod: okay, cool.  I'm happy to be a tester for you :)
[17:27] <kees> not that I've found
[17:28] <tormod> well I actually have -intel git master and libdrm from ppa installed, so I am almost on the edge :)
[17:28] <kees> tormod: though, it seems to load the i915 driver, not i965.
[17:29] <kees> tormod: where is the git master ppa?  I saw stuff from about 9 days ago on xorg-edgers
[17:29] <tormod> kees: there's none. I can push it to xorg-edgers.
[17:29] <kees> cool, yeah
[17:31] <kees> (WW) intel(0): ESR is 0x00000001, instruction error
[17:31] <kees> (WW) intel(0): Existing errors found in hardware state.
[17:31] <kees> that's the only error I can find
[17:44] <crevette> kees, does tremulous works well for you performance-wise ? because for me is slow as hell somtimes, fps decreases to 3
[17:47] <tormod> kees, it's building in the ppa now.
[17:47] <kees> crevette: with EXA, and all the fancy stuff turned down, I usually stay above 6fps
[17:47] <kees> tormod: cool
[17:47] <kees> crevette: normally it's around 15-30, with simple rooms at 90
[17:47] <kees> crevette: with UXA, it's about 2fps
[17:48] <crevette> kees, for me I didn't touch anything in xorg so I believe I have no xorg.conf
[17:48] <crevette> so I wondered if I didn't miss something in my conf (not in a required group, ...)
[17:49] <kees> crevette: with normal (exa/dri) I just turn all the fancy stuff off in tremulous
[17:49] <crevette> kees, for 3D performance, I just need to be in video group, right ?
[17:50] <tormod> crevette: yes
[17:50] <crevette> okay
[17:50] <tormod> glxinfo should confirm it's ok
[17:50] <crevette> yeah, I use dri
[17:52] <tormod> oh I forgot, nothing builds in Jaunty now, because of a conflicting drm headers in linux-libc-dev ...
[17:54] <tjaalton> again?
[17:55] <tjaalton> I thought the kernel header should not be installed until libdrm is fixed
[17:56] <tormod> last time I added a Replaces: linux-libc-dev (<= 2.6.28-3.4) to libdrm, but now a new kernel is out with the same issue.
[17:57] <tjaalton> oh right, it was fixed with a Replaces in libdrm
[17:57] <tormod> I'll drop the versioning in the ppa. and there will be a new libdrm from master git for kees :)
[17:59] <tormod> last time I tried k-m-s in the ppa I discovered many people were using it :) I hope current libdrm is more backwards compatible.
[20:33] <tormod> kees, with updated libdrm and -intel, glxgears went up from 800 to 930, but enabling UXA gives 390 - because then I get DRI2 I guess.
[21:51] <kees> tormod: upstream told me that glxgear isn't a good measure of performance, but yeah, 3d still is way slow.  dang.
[21:52] <tormod> kees: I know, it's just so handy :)
[21:52] <tormod> is it faster with EXA for you?
[21:53] <kees> exa is faster than uxa, but I didn't compare old driver to new driver with exa.  nothing jumped out at me.  I get about 2400 fps with glxgears on exa, and about 900 on uxa


[00:43] <Guest77318> can sombody tell me if lamp supports ajax
[00:43] <sarnold> Guest77318: it does if you write your application that way...
[00:44] <Guest77318> do you know javascript
[01:16] <roasted> hello!
[01:16] <roasted> I'm running ubuntu server 12.04.1. I just moved my hardware to another box (new mobo and cpu, same hdd's and same install) and now it won't find the network.
[01:16] <roasted> I have the server set to DHCP with an IP reservation from the router. Eth0 is failing to come up and I'm not enturely sure why.
[01:17] <roasted> interfaces config file looks normal... auto eth0            iface eth0 inet dhcp
[01:17] <roasted> ifconfig only brings up lo, but lspci shows the realtek gigabit onboard ethernet in the listing.
[01:17] <PryMar56> roasted, /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules (edit or delete)
[01:18] <PryMar56> the old NIC macs are persisted
[01:19] <roasted> PryMar56: thank you! I knew there was something I was forgetting.
[01:19] <roasted> Oddly enough I knew it had a 7 in it for some reason... I just forgot... everything else :/
[01:19] <roasted> PryMar56: we're up and running now. I owe ya a beer.
[01:19] <PryMar56> roasted, cheers
[01:20] <roasted> :D
[01:33] <avickery> howdy
[09:31] <psivaa> Today's server installations fail because linux-headers-server have unmet dependencies (linux-headers-generic (<IP_ADDRESS>.13)
[09:32] <psivaa> who should i report the bug against?
[09:32] <psivaa> Daviey: jamespage ^^
[09:32] <jamespage> psivaa, linux kernel please
[09:32] <jamespage> its probably transitory
[09:35] <psivaa> jamespage: ahh ok thanks. normally the mismatch in d-i installer and the archive give a different error message, i'll confirm with release or kernel then
[09:39] <Daviey> jamespage / psivaa: You'd hope that with the proposed usage now, we'd not get this!
[09:43] <psivaa> Daviey: thanks, ill report a bug anyway and see how it goes
[09:45] <Daviey> psivaa: could i ask you to let me know how it turns out please?
[09:48] <psivaa> Daviey: infinity is fixing the 'proposed migration' and then the images will have to be respun . the issue seems to be in the desktop images too
[09:49] <Daviey> psivaa: yeah, i just caught it in -release.. thanks :)
[09:49] <Daviey> appreciate you following it up
[10:07] <jamespage> Daviey, I uploaded hp3parclient to NEW in raring yesterday if you have time to review and accept
[10:07] <jamespage> yolanda2, ^^ fyi
[10:08] <yolanda2> jamespage, so we could add it as a dependency when it's done?
[10:08] <jamespage> yolanda2, yes - but lets hold off until after g2 is out in the distro
[10:08] <jamespage> yolanda2, it will need to go through MIR
[10:10] <Daviey> jamespage: ok, chuck asked me to do 2 others first... i'll do them today for sure
[10:10] <jamespage> Daviey, great - thanks
[10:30] <dijit> Hello
[10:30] <dijit> I have a server (Ubuntu 10.04 LTS)
[10:30] <dijit> which will not boot, it drops to busybox with the line "Could not open /dev/mapper/<servername>-root"
[10:31] <dijit> however, the block file exists, and I can mount it and move around the filesystem.. (it's definitely my filesystem, not initramfs)
[10:31] <dijit> I assumed it was pvscan taking a while, so I've tried adding rootdelay=60
[10:31] <dijit> but that's not working either.
[10:32] <dijit> after it goes to busy box; a ^D will take me to another screen "Waiting for device / press S to skip or M to manually mount the device"
[10:32] <dijit> pressing "M" takes me to a shell that's mounted in ro mode.
[10:33] <dijit> I can remount,rw and get networking up.
[10:33] <dijit> but the machine will not boot into init 5
[10:47] <dijit> http://superuser.com/questions/256856/ubuntu-alert-dev-mapper-localhost-root-does-not-exist-dropping-to-a-shell
[10:59] <sw> Hi, I've setup samba on a remote Ubuntu server but when our Windows server tries to connect it says that the password is incorrect? Connecting to \\ip\backups as user 'backups' who is in write users in the samba.cfg.
[10:59] <sw> root works fine.
[11:04] <tdn> I have a complete disk image (dd if=/dev/sda of=foo.bin) that contains several partitions and LVM logical volumes on which there are ext4 filesystems. How do I mount one of the filesystems on this diskimage? I assume I have to use a loopback device somehow, but I am not sure how to do it when I have the entire device as an image and not just one filesystem.
[11:11] <xnox> tdn: look into kpartx, you may need to use it recursively to get into lvm.
[11:12] <xnox> (if your lvm volumes also have partition table)
[11:12] <xnox> kpartx -a path/to/foo.bin; vgchange -ay should do it, fi you don't
[11:13] <sw> Hi, I have a user 'backups' trying to access a samba share \\ip\backups from a Windows machine but can't get authorized. It's using the correct password and is in write users for that share. root is too and that works.
[11:24] <tdn> xnox, ok
[11:46] <dijit> I found another sysadmin with my problem.
[11:46] <dijit> update, reboot -> no longer boots
[11:48] <dijit> I'm going to try updating to a newer version of the OS using do-release-upgrade
[12:15] <samba35> i am planning to upgrade/install (from source ) libvirt version on ubuntu 12.04.1 from 9.13 to version 1.0.x? willl that create a problem ?
[12:49] <dijit> so my install is now almost completely broken
[12:49] <dijit> I'm going to reinstall using centos.
[12:49] <dijit> after copying all my VM's off.
[13:23] <TheBronx> Hi all!
[13:24] <TheBronx> RoyK, sarnold, my server "survived" his first attack xD
[13:24] <RoyK> :)
[13:24] <TheBronx> the server was unaccessible, or ultra slow, but alive, and once the attack stopped, was still there!
[13:25] <TheBronx> CSF bloqued a ton of IPs
[13:25] <TheBronx> blocked*
[13:25] <TheBronx> no messages of "dst cache overflow" in the logs
[13:29] <TheBronx> I think i'm going to reduce the synflood parameters in CSF
[13:33] <TheBronx> http://i.imgur.com/m1oly.png
[13:34] <TheBronx> still a lot of very similar IPs. It would be great if the firewall could block the entire range when 3 or more similar IPs are already blocked
[13:55] <zul> jamespage or yolanda2: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/cinder/cinder-g2/+merge/142900
[14:01] <jamespage> zul, approved
[14:20] <zul> jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/glance/glance-g2/+merge/142906
[14:29] <jamespage> zul, approved
[14:43] <zul> jamespage:  next https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/horizon/horizon-g2/+merge/142908
[14:55] <zul> jamespage: next https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/keystone/keystnoe-g2/+merge/142911
[15:08] <zul> jamespage:  i thought you added alembic to quantum?
[15:10] <jamespage> I did
[15:12] <zul> jamespage: nm i suck
[15:24] <zul> jamespage:  https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/quantum/quantum-g2/+merge/142916
[15:32] <jamespage> zul, all approved
[15:32] <zul> jamespage:  thanks there is a couple of more to do...but im making my way through it
[15:40] <zul> jamespage: https://code.launchpad.net/~zulcss/python-glanceclient/grizzly-g2/+merge/142919
[15:43] <dijit> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lvm2/+bug/596554
[16:05] <thompcha> Hey, I've got an issue with tomcat taking more than 20 minutes to start on Ubuntu Server 12.10. I've written up the problem in detail here: http://serverfault.com/q/466190/45607
[16:06] <thompcha> Any suggestions?
[16:10] <pmatulis> thompcha: check logs and available resources (cpu, memory, disk)
[16:24] <Crazy_Spai> Ahoy.
[16:30] <thompcha> pmatulis: I'm trying to make the logs output more.
[16:33] <TheBronx> hm, I have an idea, but I don't know if it is possible or how can I implement it
[16:34] <TheBronx> capture example, from the last attack: http://i.imgur.com/m1oly.png
[16:34] <TheBronx> is it possible to count the number of SYN packets from each /24 IP block?
[16:34] <TheBronx> for example:
[16:35] <TheBronx> <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -> 27 SYN packets
[16:35] <TheBronx> <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -> 2 SYN packets
[16:35] <TheBronx> and so on
[16:35] <TheBronx> if a /24 block has more than X packets, it gets blocked
[16:36] <TheBronx> is it possible?
[16:37] <jamespage> zul, Daviey: bah - openvswitch dkms package is not liking 3.8.0 kernel
[16:37] <zul> jamespage:  meh
[16:40] <jamespage> zul, Daviey: I really think we should drop whoopsie from the kernel seed
[16:40] <jamespage> server seed rather
[16:40] <zul> jamespage: how come?
[16:42] <jamespage> zul, it does *nothing* in server world AFAICT
[16:42] <zul> jamespage: im ok with it
[16:43] <jamespage> thompcha, tomcat7 does some key/crypto init on startup - if you have poor entropy on your system it may take some time
[16:43] <jamespage> thompcha, installing haveged might help
[16:49] <jamespage> thompcha, hmm - its not that "INFO: Creation of SecureRandom instance for session ID generation using [SHA1PRNG] took [164] milliseconds."
[17:11] <jamespage> smb, still around?
[17:15] <sarnold> TheBronx: woot! good work. :)
[17:16] <TheBronx> under attack again. I've posted a thread in CSF forums: http://forum.configserver.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6134&p=18807
[17:17] <TheBronx> that feature in CSF would be great I think. or a script that can do that
[17:17] <patdk-wk> hmm?
[17:17] <patdk-wk> synfloods are pretty well blocked by the kernel on its own, for me atleast
[17:17] <patdk-wk> I got a huge one a few days ago
[17:18] <TheBronx> but if each different IP only sends 1 SYN packet
[17:18] <patdk-wk> but beyond that, you should have something doing watching and blocking, sure
[17:18] <TheBronx> both the kernel and the firewall (CSF) will do nothing
[17:19] <patdk-wk> dunno about a csf thing
[17:19] <Crazy_Spai> Is UFW not enough?
[17:19] <patdk-wk> I use fail2ban and some scripts that upset ipset for banning stuff
[17:19] <patdk-wk> ufw is static, not active
[17:19] <Crazy_Spai> Fair enough, pardon my ignorance.
[17:20] <jdstrand> I was actually thinking about adding ipset support to ufw
[17:20] <patdk-wk> he wants some kind of indrusion detecton thing
[17:20] <Crazy_Spai> Is there a different between denyhosts and fail2ban? I'm under the impression that fail2ban is just more confurable
[17:20] <Crazy_Spai> configurable
[17:20] <patdk-wk> ipset kicks ass, except you need to install xtables
[17:20] <patdk-wk> Crazy_Spai, same idea, ya
[17:21] <Crazy_Spai> Figured as much, thank you.
[17:22] <TheBronx> CSF uses iptables, but it is easy to configure, for example for SYN flood attacks
[17:22] <TheBronx> you can set a limit, for example: 30/s SYN packets
[17:23] <TheBronx> but this limit is applied per IP
[17:23] <Crazy_Spai> Couldn't you use another program to block those IP's
[17:23] <TheBronx> and what I want is to block the entire /24 block of IPs, as that is what the attackers are using
[17:24] <TheBronx> yeah, if know one that can do what I want, of course!
[17:24] <TheBronx> if you know*
[17:24] <Crazy_Spai> Couldnt fail2ban monitor a log set by csf?
[17:24] <Crazy_Spai> *I'm not too sure of anything, but from my understanding just trying to learn through brainstorming with you
[17:24] <patdk-wk> fail2ban can monitor anything, and call any script
[17:25] <patdk-wk> I dunno how you detect a single syn, as bad though
[17:25] <patdk-wk> but fail2ban can easily grep the kernel iptables logs and ban ranges based on that
[17:25] <Crazy_Spai> That's the route I was thinking was possible.
[17:26] <patdk-wk> I guess if you log based on an INFO rule, it would get *LOTS* of info
[17:27] <TheBronx> but SYN packets are not logged, so fail2ban can't know what is happening
[17:28] <TheBronx> it is possible to use the CSF logs, so that when an IP is blocked for SYN flood, fail2ban can call a script that bans the entire range
[17:28] <patdk-wk> sure
[17:28] <TheBronx> but again the problem is that CSF only blocks IPs that send more than 30 SYN packets per second (or 20 or whatever I set in the config)
[17:29] <Crazy_Spai> Well, you have control over that frequency
[17:29] <patdk-wk> personally, 30 syn per second is acceptable to my http servers
[17:29] <patdk-wk> as that is normal
[17:30] <TheBronx> less than 30 is just paranoid hehe
[17:30] <TheBronx> as patdk-wk says, 30 syn is acceptable
[17:30] <TheBronx> the key is frequency per /24 block, not frequency per single IP
[17:31] <patdk-wk> I personally allow 80/s per ip
[17:31] <TheBronx> that's the key, as the attack uses a lot of IPs from the same block
[17:31] <patdk-wk> any my syncflood only come in at like 1000/sec
[17:32] <TheBronx> CSF is not blocking anyone. The logs are clean of banned IPs, until an attack starts
[17:32] <TheBronx> when an attack starts, CSF starts blocking IPs, that's what I see in the logs
[17:32] <TheBronx> so it seems 30/s is nice for my server
[17:37] <patdk-wk> well, normal clients, will generate about 6 syn per webpage normally
[17:37] <patdk-wk> unless you use multible hostnames, then 6 per hostname
[17:38] <patdk-wk> I use 5 hostnames, so that gets me up to the 30 range per client
[17:48] <TheBronx> yeah, I only have one site (and a few small blogs and static sites) so 30/s is enough
[18:07] <dijit> http://pastebin.com/pdPNRMnH
[18:09] <sarnold> dijit: apt-get install python-gnupginterface first ?
[18:10] <dijit> shouldn't I already have that.
[18:10] <dijit> isn't that like, a dependancy?
[18:11] <dijit> http://pastebin.com/PQBFvhH4
[18:11] <sarnold> one would hope..
[18:11] <dijit> yeah this is very broken now.
[18:11] <dijit> I tried to run an apt-get dist-upgrade before.
[18:12] <dijit> that might be why.
[18:12] <sarnold> dijit: .. to upgrade between distributions?
[18:12] <dijit> well, what else is it for?
[18:12] <dijit> (I'm on 10.04)
[18:12] <dijit> this happened /after/ my issues earlier.
[18:13] <sarnold> sadly, some larger changes are difficult to do entirely via dist-upgrade, which is why the do-release-upgrade (or whatever the name tis..) was introduced.
[18:13]  * dijit sighs
[18:13] <dijit> I wish I knew that.
[18:14] <dijit> anyway, this server is a lost cause, it's not booting with LVM anymore because, god knows why.
[18:14] <dijit> I'm just going to rebuild it as a centos vm host or something.
[18:14] <dijit> and I happened to fuck up apt anyway.
[18:14] <dijit> so, I think it's time.
[18:14] <dijit> xD
[18:15] <sarnold> sometimes not solving a problem is easiest :)
[18:20] <ckramer> can someone explain the purpose or point me towards some documentation covering the precise-server-cloudimg-amd64-loader ?
[18:22] <ckramer> I get an qemu error when I try to use it with a libvirt direct kernel boot.
[18:26] <ckramer> Also, I'm looking for an initramfs for the Precise cloud image but I don't see any listed on http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/precise/current
[18:26] <ckramer> am I missing something basic here?
[19:06] <adam_g> jamespage: re: that keystone charm branch, looks like the swift stuff landed while i was working on it and just needed to be rebased against the upstream trunk. doing that now
[19:14] <jamespage> adam_g, great!
[19:14] <jamespage> I thought that might be the case
[19:29] <kieppie> happy new year all.
[19:29] <kieppie> I've just set up a new OS (12.04) from the mini.iso - all looks good, but I don't have any video-out (VGA or DV. I'm able to log in via SSH, but bupkis on the TTY's. headless setup (no X)
[20:10] <kieppie1> is it possible to push my headless/CLI TTY's to all display outputs?
[20:13] <sarnold> kieppie1: the console= kernel boot param may let you select something.. or you may need to use netconsole (though I don't think that allows for interacting..)
[20:13] <kieppie1> sarnold - cheers
[20:14] <kieppie1> found the issue to my previously stated problem: I have multiple graphics cards on this machine, & it was defaulting to an output that had no monitor connected
[20:14] <sarnold> ah!
[20:14] <sarnold> I've done that. :/ hehe.
[20:14] <kieppie1> silly really
[20:15] <kieppie1> it's going to be a headless resver, no X installed, so it's a bit silly that it's not simply throwing out TTY to all displays :/
[20:20] <kieppie1> sarnold - I'm finding references to enabling the serial console (probably not a terrible idea), but not for VGA. got any refs please?
[20:20] <Daviey> zul: pecan.. ./pecan/middleware/recursive.py is a different licence to the rest?
[20:21] <adam_g> zul: http://people.canonical.com/~agandelman/g2_deps/ <- added, alembic, python-webob, python-testtools, python-testscenarios, testrepository
[20:23] <zul> Daviey: erp
[20:24] <Daviey> zul: I also don't really agree with keeping the experimental changelog entry, as it seems it hasn't been published there?
[20:25] <zul> Daviey: ok ill have another look
[20:25] <sarnold> kieppie1: darn. maybe video= is the better starting point?
[20:26] <kieppie1> sarnold - cheers. brub/kernel options does seem the way to go at least. I'll keep digging, thanks
[20:26] <Daviey> zul: not a requirement for NEW'ing.. but.. is this intentional? "python setup.py test --functional || true"
[20:27] <zul> Daviey: yeah i didnt spend alot of time with the testsuite
[20:30] <Daviey> jamespage: python-hp3parclient looks good.. but i note it has a testsuite that will probably need enabling for MIR.. if we need it.
[20:43] <Daviey> zul: python-ceilometer, should it be arch: any .. and there is boilerplate left in debian/copyright
[20:44] <zul> doh
[20:45] <Daviey> zul: ok, i'll reject it for now.
[20:45] <zul> at least g2 is uploaded except for ceilometer
[20:46] <Daviey> \o/
[20:47] <Daviey> zul: i'll reject python-pecan whislt you look into the licence, if it is indeed good.. it can be salvaged from the queue
[21:08] <stiv2k> hi
[21:08] <stiv2k> i need some help
[21:09] <stiv2k> i replaced the hdd enclosure for my server's external disk
[21:09] <stiv2k> and now during bootup
[21:09] <stiv2k> presumably on the fsck stage
[21:09] <stiv2k> it says HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed for '/dev/sdb' invalid argument
[21:10] <subman> I'm trying to add a repository on one of my Ubuntu 12.04 servers with the command:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:openbravo-isv/ppa but I get a "sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found" in response.  I did this on another server with no issue.  What am I missing?
[21:11] <sarnold> subman: it's apt-add-repository not add-apt-repository
[21:12] <subman> sarnold, Wow, didn't notice that at all!  I was just copy/pasting instructions right from the OpenBravo website.
[21:12] <tjaalton> virt-manager is giving pain on raring.. I keep getting 'Error starting domain: internal error Failed to get user record for name '116': Connection refused', 116 is the uid of libvirt-qemu
[21:13] <tjaalton> can't start any vm
[21:13] <subman> sarnold, but that gives the error:  "sudo: apt-add-repository: command not found"
[21:13] <stiv2k> here http://i.imgur.com/SBICT.jpg
[21:13] <stiv2k> is my error
[21:13] <stiv2k> ^^^
[21:13] <sarnold> subman: haha
[21:14] <sarnold> subman: that's hilarious. I just typed "apt-<tab>" and thought you had it wrong..
[21:14] <sarnold> subman: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 Sep 28 07:06 /usr/bin/apt-add-repository -> add-apt-repository
[21:14] <sarnold> subman: install the python-software-properties package  :)
[21:16] <stiv2k> anyone
[21:16] <stiv2k> sarnold: ping
[21:17] <subman> sarnold, why thank you!
[21:18] <sarnold> stiv2k: sorry, I don't know much there, except that it _looks_ bad.
[21:18] <tjaalton> looks like I hit https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=883547
[21:18] <stiv2k> its not bad
[21:19] <stiv2k> im sure the disk is fine
[21:19] <stiv2k> it was JUST working
[21:19] <stiv2k> all i did was put a new enclosure
[21:19] <sarnold> stiv2k: yeah, but your enclosure looks like it is giving results that disagree with the old enclosure about drive size
[21:19] <sarnold> stiv2k: it feels like it steals a sector for its own use? or .. why would it report something different?
[21:19] <stiv2k> i dunno
[21:28] <jamespage> Daviey, great - I have the test suite working as of this morning - I'll upload a fix early next week
[21:41] <eutheria> is there a server and client like ubuntu one just for syncing files to your own server?
[21:41] <sarnold> eutheria: rsync is neat..
[21:42] <TheLordOfTime> what sarnold said
[21:42] <eutheria> sarnold, rsync requires me to remember to run it
[21:42] <TheLordOfTime> not if you use a crontab
[21:42] <sarnold> eutheria: indeed :)
[21:42] <sarnold> eutheria: cron may help
[21:42] <eutheria> ubuntu one syncs things for me
[21:43] <TheLordOfTime> eutheria, there's no client/server system i'm aware of similar to ubuntu one that you can easily set up for your system, except for an rsync set up to run every so often via cron
[21:43] <eutheria> fair enough
[21:43] <TheLordOfTime> and to be honest...
[21:43] <eutheria> deja-dup created me a useless backup
[21:43] <TheLordOfTime> i have that running on 4 servers.
[21:43] <sarnold> it would be keen to have an inotify-aware rsync daemon thingy...
[21:44] <TheLordOfTime> agreed with sarnold
[21:44] <sarnold> (piecing something together with imcron and rsync would be _painful_, don't do that.)
[21:45] <TheLordOfTime> (heh)
[21:45] <eutheria> i guess i could use rsync
[21:46] <eutheria> maybe there is a task manager to remind me to backup
[21:46] <TheLordOfTime> or you can just schedule the rsync with cron to run at a given time each day
[21:46] <TheLordOfTime> or multiple times per day
[21:46] <eutheria> it is a laptop
[21:46] <eutheria> it might be off at that time
[21:47] <eutheria> for a server sure
[21:47] <TheLordOfTime> as i said, set it up for multiple times per day :p
[21:47] <TheLordOfTime> or don't its your  call
[21:47]  * TheLordOfTime returns to poking at nginx's source code
[22:07] <adam_g> zul: dont suppose you've seen this one: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/128227169/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-i386.testrepository_0.0.11-0ubuntu5~cloud0_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[22:08] <syncsys> cannot set JAVA_HOME in /etc/enviroment  with JAVA_HOME="/home/syncsys/bin/jdk1.7.0_10/"    echo give me that but its not a correct java home or i need something else?
[22:52] <Quest>  please see this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14287501/java-home-in-etc-enviroment-in-ubuntu    any help?
[23:22] <sw__> Hi, I installed nagios3 through apt-get but on the tutorial that I'm looking at it shows that the web interface should be setup automatically to http://localhost/nagios, is this correct? It's not even listed as running through apache2 at the moment, should I cp the sample conf to /etc/apache2/sites-available and then a2enable it?
[23:22] <sw__> I've tried #nagios, but there doesn't seem to be many signs of life over there at the moment.
[23:48] <sarnold> sw__: they'd probably tell you to find details on distribution packaging from your distro.. :)
[23:48] <sarnold> sw__: I think your a2enable idea is good, give that a shot..


[04:55] <guruprasad> Chalky, this is a channel for the Launchpad project. Can you provide more details about your issue and how it is related to the the Launchpad project?
[06:27] <tmow[m]> Can someone bump this please https://code.launchpad.net/~remmina-ppa-team/+archive/ubuntu/remmina-next-daily/+build/23576287
[06:27] <tmow[m]> Thanks!
[06:34] <guruprasad> cjwatson, can you help with the above request?
[06:40] <ricotz> hello :), most of the builds running on lcy02-* are stuck and would need a restart
[06:45] <tmow[m]> ricotz: Thanks, I will
[06:46] <rs2009> oh, so the build issues have been fixed?
[07:44] <jugmac00> rs2009: no, unfortunately not
[07:50] <RikMills> ricotz: done the universe ones
[07:53] <tmow[m]> Is it possible to do a package that warns the user that having universe enabled is a requirement?
[07:53] <tmow[m]> I've a package that depends on ffmpeg, that is only available in universe.
[07:53] <tmow[m]> for the PPA. sorry, I was not clear
[08:06] <cjwatson> tmow[m]: only by putting it in the PPA description.  Nearly everyone does have universe enabled though, so I don't think that's a remarkable thing that needs to be called out
[08:07] <cjwatson> tmow[m]: the build you asked to be prioritized above seems to have been cancelled, which isn't compatible with being prioritized.  Do you need it to be retried?
[08:10] <tmow[m]> cjwatson: No, thanks, I cancelled it myself and started a new build. Thanks also for the advice concerning universe
[09:16] <EmixamPP> Hello, is the login platform down ? I can't connect for two days (note that I have a new account).
[09:19] <cjwatson> EmixamPP: What's the exact symptom?  Do you get an error ID?
[09:22] <EmixamPP> I am redirected to the Ubuntu one to approve the connection, and then I get an "Oops! Sorry, something just went wrong in Launchpad".
[09:22] <EmixamPP> Error ID: OOPS-e131dbf3b5cb69f728d2b8fa695da437
[09:22] <cjwatson> OK, guruprasad should be able to help you out with that.  It's not the login service being down, it's a problem with your account
[09:23] <cjwatson> (Because you had a previous account, and this has confused things)
[09:23] <EmixamPP> Ah yes indeed ...
[09:26] <EmixamPP> Do I have to contact anyone or mail support to report my issue ?
[09:26] <cjwatson> No, guruprasad should be able to deal with it when he sees this
[09:27] <cjwatson> Though you can email<EMAIL_ADDRESS>if that doesn't happen and then that goes into our ticket queue
[09:28] <EmixamPP> Ho great, thank you both in advance !
[09:43] <guruprasad> EmixamPP, checking the issue now.
[09:52] <EmixamPP> Unfortunately the issue still there, Error ID: OOPS-8838288f29a87495abbcc9defad084f6
[09:53] <guruprasad> EmixamPP, please wait until I confirm.
[09:53] <guruprasad> You will keep seeing the same issue till I fix the duplicate account issue.
[09:56] <guruprasad> EmixamPP, I have fixed the issue now. Please try logging in again and let us know if you run into any more errors.
[09:57] <emixampp> If this is too complicated to fix, I can always create an new account with another email address.
[09:58] <guruprasad> emixampp, see my message above about the issue now being fixed. Your username (belongs to your previous account with the same email address) will be 'emixam.'
[09:58] <guruprasad> You should be able to log in without any issues now.
[09:58] <jugmac00> And FWIW - you can change your username at any time.
[09:59] <emixampp> ho sorry I didn't see your previous message (the webclient disconnect me). Yes, everything is working now, thank you so much !
[09:59] <guruprasad> emixampp, note that if you wish, you can change your Launchpad username - see https://help.launchpad.net/YourAccount/NewAccount for details.
[09:59] <emixampp> Have a nice day :)
[10:00] <guruprasad> emixampp, you too. Happy to help :)
[16:38] <qqz> Hi, I wanted to update my gpg key at launchpad
[16:38] <qqz> following the instructions I did at first upload it to hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com
[16:38] <qqz> then I registered the fingerprint at launchpad and got an encrypted email
[16:38] <qqz> I have decrypted that email with my key which did work fine
[16:38] <qqz> the key fingerprint in the decrypted message was correct and so I opened the url referenced in the decrypted message
[16:39] <qqz> .. however then the browser showed me this error message: http://pastie.org/p/5EyzWMcBmNNAfa35Vm0ISl
[16:40] <qqz> how can the published key not be correct when I just got a message encrypted with that key and decryption went fine
[16:55] <qqz> I have now generated a new 4096 bit key and uploaded it to the keyserver.ubuntu.com.
[16:56] <qqz> How can I check whether the key is already there because now I get the following error: http://pastie.org/p/0tyD273iSsccxflqOBbk3Q
[16:56] <qqz> fingerprint must be complete as before
[16:56] <qqz> where that step had worked
[16:58] <qqz> ok; will have to wait
[18:27] <qqz> the new key is now available and as I wanted to activate it via decryption I got:
[18:28] <qqz> gpg: checksum error; aab7d6 - dc3aab
[18:31] <qqz> tried a second time and the new email was not decryptable either due to a checksum error
[18:31] <qqz> I have followed the procedure exactly as before with the old key some minutes ago and that time decryption did work
[18:34] <qqz> is there a mailinglist where I could ask for help if that does not work?
[19:24] <qqz> how can I upload a new version of a package to launchpad
[19:24] <qqz> the former version did not compile in the launchpad environment and that should be fixed now
[20:16] <damonlynch> I think the launchpad project files downloaded counter has stopped working (at least it has for my project) i.e. https://launchpad.net/foo/+download
[20:23] <jugmac00> damonlynch: Could you please file a bug report over at https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad? Please include some details, especially our project.
[20:27] <damonlynch> thanks, done https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1971198


[00:22] <ali1234> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-14305667?postId=109829019#comment_109829019
[00:22] <ali1234> fail
[00:28] <ali1234> i really want to reply to that post, but i don't have an account on the bbc comments and i can't be bothered to make one
[00:30] <hamitron> :)
[00:31]  * hamitron offers ali1234 a cup of tea to sit down and chill with
[00:48]  * penguin42 waits for his main machine to finish upgrading to oo
[00:48] <Jora> Hi brits
[00:52] <hamitron> penguin42: oo?
[00:52] <hamitron> hi Jora
[00:53] <penguin42> hamitron: Oneiric Ocelot
[00:53] <hamitron> :/
[01:07] <mattt> evening
[02:29] <Bomster> evening
[08:00] <MooDoo> morning all
[08:00] <_serial_> morning
[08:00] <MartijnVdS> hi
[08:10] <popey> Morning
[08:12] <MooDoo> morning popey
[08:20] <nperry> morning all o/
[08:23] <MooDoo> :)
[09:58] <brobostigon> good morning veryone.
[10:58] <scoundrel50a> test
[10:58] <scoundrel50a> so it is working.....its very quiet
[11:00] <MooDoo> it always is on a sunday
[11:00] <MooDoo> besides it's F1 day :D
[14:53] <mattt> me naps
[15:39] <MooDoo> >
[15:52] <brobostigon> o/
[15:57]  * penguin42 thinks most people are napping today
[15:57] <MooDoo> snooooooooor
[15:58] <penguin42> zzzzzz
[16:03] <shauno> meh.  I'm at work :/
[16:03]  * brobostigon is watching tv, with a beer.
[16:07] <MooDoo> me too shauno
[16:10] <brobostigon> :(
[16:11]  * brobostigon gets beer ready for shauno and MooDoo
[17:17] <AlanBell> I have not been napping
[17:17] <AlanBell> I found a 750W reciprocating power saw in the garage that I forgot I owned
[17:18] <AlanBell> so I chopped most of my garden down
[17:19] <penguin42> is that good?
[17:19] <AlanBell> felt good doing it
[17:19] <AlanBell> big boys toys :)
[17:24] <bigcalm> Is it better to use PHP's Mail() or SMTP when both are useable?
[17:25] <StevenR> bigcalm: whatever you do, submit to localhost and have it relay
[17:25] <StevenR> (if it's PHP, have it spit the mail at localhost ... not sure what you mean by "or SMTP" ... does Mail() not do SMTP?)
[17:28] <bigcalm> I'm using Mail_Queue for the bulk sending of emails. You have to specify a driver, such as: mail, smtp, sendmail
[17:32] <StevenR> bigcalm: it doesn't sound like it would matter too much (unless the Mail() config in... I think php.ini...  is something that you don't want to use)
[17:34] <StevenR> (I'd still submit mail to localhost though, and let the local MTA handle forwarding it on)
[17:34] <daubers> lo
[17:37] <StevenR> high
[18:32] <Am|n> hi
[18:32] <Am|n> hru
[18:51] <popey> evening
[18:52] <brobostigon> evening popey
[19:12] <bottomface> hey you guys
[19:13] <bottomface> playdeb keeps giving me software not in my sources when i click install from the site
[19:14] <bottomface> I cant figure it out I've added the repository and everything.
[19:24] <daubers> lo
[20:45] <Datass> irc.geekshed.net
[21:04] <dogmatic69_> o/
[21:28] <vuth> hi UK
[21:32] <vuth> anyone know a lot about building PC?
[21:35] <StevenR> it depends what you want to know :)
[21:35] <Azelphur> vuth: yea
[21:35] <vuth> okok
[21:35] <vuth> k i have a HP SR5152NX desktop and it has a micro motherboard inside it but the case is a medium size according to the specs
[21:36] <vuth> can i use the case and buy a new motherboard maybe a medium size one
[21:37] <StevenR> vuth: probably. you should be able to measure the inside of the case, and look at the specs of the motherboard. Why do you need a larger motherboard?
[21:37] <Azelphur> vuth: motherboard size specifications arn't medium or small
[21:37] <Azelphur> they are ATX, or micro ATX
[21:37] <Azelphur> or both, there are a few other specs but they arn't widely used
[21:37] <Azelphur> make sure your case can take full size ATX motherboards and as StevenR says measure up.
[21:38] <Azelphur> all well and good being big enough, but if you don't have the ATX screw holes it's not gonna be fun unless your handy with a drill.
[21:38] <dogmatic69_> you can get a new case for 10 bucks if you check the internet for about 3 minutes
[21:38] <Azelphur> ^ that too
[21:39] <vuth> so there is only 2 types Azelphur?
[21:39] <Azelphur> vuth: there are other types, but the vast majority are ATX/Micro ATX
[21:40] <Azelphur> your gonna be hard pressed to find the other types
[21:40] <vuth> mATX = micro ATX right?
[21:40] <Azelphur> yea
[21:41] <vuth> are u running Ubuntu 64 bit right now?
[21:41] <Azelphur> yes
[21:42] <vuth> the latest version or the Long Term SUpport version 10
[21:42] <vuth> ?
[21:42] <Azelphur> latest
[21:42] <vuth> kewl...do u run many windows program?
[21:42] <vuth> or games...since theres not many good game that is linux native
[21:43] <Azelphur> some, I obviously avoid it when able
[21:43] <Azelphur> yes, mostly games.
[21:43] <Azelphur> I'm one of the few nutty Linux gamers
[21:43] <vuth> and u use wine for that right?
[21:43] <Azelphur> yep
[21:43] <dogmatic69_> minecraft works fine, what more do you need?
[21:44] <brobostigon> good night everyone, sleep well.
[21:44] <dogmatic69_> later brobostigon
[21:44] <brobostigon> dogmatic69_: good night.
[21:45] <dogmatic69_> anyone fly rc stuff by chance?
[21:47] <vuth> :P
[21:48] <vuth> does ubuntu have the snap to screen feature liek win 7?
[21:49] <vuth> like u drag the window to the top and it auto maximizes, to the right it max on the right side only, etc.?
[21:49] <dogmatic69_> yes
[21:49] <dogmatic69_> but only if it was big
[21:49] <dogmatic69_> from screen 1 -> 2 etc
[21:50] <vuth> remote control planes?
[21:51] <dogmatic69_> yip
[21:51] <dogmatic69_> and/or helicopter
[21:51] <vuth> no i dont...exxpensive hobby that is
[21:51] <dogmatic69_> only when you learning ;)
[21:51] <vuth> i sometimes build military models..tanks and fighters
[21:53] <vuth> im building a T-80BV right now
[21:58] <vuth> libreoffice and open office same thing right?
[22:14] <AlanBell> vuth: pretty much
[22:15] <AlanBell> LibreOffice is a fork, slightly different licensing situation and slightly different branding, nothing you are likely to notice
[22:36] <directhex> vuth: the picture i just found of a SR5152NX definitely does not appear to be full ATX
[22:38] <directhex> ultrabudget nforce 6150se board, by the look of it
[22:40] <directhex> power supply seems a funny shape, to my eye. which is bad for replacing the innards, since OEM power supplies tend to be useless
[22:42] <directhex> 550w? hm, could be worse, then
[22:48] <C-S-B> I've got the feeling that rsync is backing up hardlinks/softlinks and using up twice as much space... is that right?


[08:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: netplan.io [amd64] (mantic-proposed/main) [0.107-3] (core)
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[09:14] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gnome-font-downloader [riscv64] (mantic-proposed/universe) [10.0.0-2] (no packageset)
[09:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gnome-font-downloader [amd64] (mantic-proposed) [10.0.0-2]
[09:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gnome-font-downloader [armhf] (mantic-proposed) [10.0.0-2]
[09:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gnome-font-downloader [riscv64] (mantic-proposed) [10.0.0-2]
[09:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gnome-font-downloader [arm64] (mantic-proposed) [10.0.0-2]
[09:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gnome-font-downloader [s390x] (mantic-proposed) [10.0.0-2]
[09:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted gnome-font-downloader [ppc64el] (mantic-proposed) [10.0.0-2]
[09:21] <LocutusOfBorg> hello, can any ubuntu-archive please NBS-proposed cleanup glgrib on armhf and s390x?
[09:21] <LocutusOfBorg> missing build on armhf: glgrib-egl, glgrib-glfw, glgrib-tk, libglgrib-egl-dev, libglgrib-glfw-dev, libglgrib-glfw-perl, libglgrib-headers, liblfi-dev, liblfi0, python3-glgrib-glfw (from 1.0-3)
[09:21] <LocutusOfBorg> (context is LP: #2024934)
[09:21] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2024934 in eccodes (Ubuntu) "eccodes: RM on armhf and s390x" [Undecided, Fix Released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2024934
[12:44] <coreycb> ahasenack: hi, thanks for reviewing LP:#2030514. I uploaded one more package for the stable openstack releases. if you get a chance could you take a look?
[12:44] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2030514 in magnum (Ubuntu Lunar) "[SRU] antelope stable releases" [High, Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2030514
[13:15] <ahasenack> coreycb: ok, let me take a look
[13:20] <ahasenack> coreycb: magnum?
[13:20] <coreycb> ahasenack: yes that's the one
[13:21] <ahasenack> coreycb: does it need to be in sync with magnum-ui?
[13:21] <ahasenack> not exact version numbers, but api-wise
[13:21] <coreycb> ahasenack: no, they can release stable releases separately
[13:43] <ahasenack> coreycb: 16.0.1-0ubuntu1 is later than what is in mantic currently (16.0.0+git2023061415.b578bd8a-0ubuntu1)
[13:45] <coreycb> ahasenack: checking. I created a new version but maybe forgot to upload.
[13:46] <coreycb> ahasenack: that's now building at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/magnum/16.0.1+git2023082416.f241d15f-0ubuntu1
[13:49] <ahasenack> ok, no FFe needed I suppose?
[13:57] <coreycb> ahasenack: no, not for openstack
[14:52] <ahasenack> coreycb: you don't need the oslo.messaging version bump in the depends for lunar?
[14:52] <ahasenack> - python3-oslo.messaging (>= 12.2.0),
[14:52] <ahasenack> + python3-oslo.messaging (>= 14.1.0), ^ in mantic
[14:56] <coreycb> ahasenack: It looks good the way it is. upstream has requirements.txt has oslo.messaging>=12.2.0 for 16.0.1.  I can see how the versioning we use for development releases can be confusing though because it is 16.0.1+git* which means it is not really 16.0.1, it is 16.0.1 plus extra stuff in the main branch.
[14:57] <ahasenack> right, the +git could be changing anything, the version number is not the same
[14:58] <ahasenack> it's something after 16.0.1
[14:58] <ahasenack> just checking
[15:08] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: glgrib binaries removed
[15:15] <LocutusOfBorg> ta
[15:16] <LocutusOfBorg> also vorlon ... halide/riscv64 removal?
[15:16] <LocutusOfBorg> LP: #2027852 Debian maintainer answered
[15:16] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2027852 in halide (Ubuntu) "RM halide [riscv64]" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2027852
[16:26] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted magnum [source] (lunar-proposed) [16.0.1-0ubuntu1]
[18:29] <seb128> could someone consider letting gtk4 migrate despite the rust-g(td)k/s390x autopkgtest failures?
[18:30] <seb128> we are trying to unblock the new GNOME, that's one of the problematic pieces
[18:31] <seb128> s390x isn't a target arch for desktop
[18:35] <Eickmeyer> It was proposed by jbicha to let those failures be skiptested.
[18:36] <jbicha> specifically here, the tests will pass once they are run by the new rust packages in -proposed but the s390x autopkgtests haven't been running
[18:37] <Eickmeyer> Either way, skiptesting s390x on desktop-only packagest sounds like a sane thing to do.
[19:03] <vorlon> jbicha: s390x autopkgtests have been running but slowly.  The queue is visible again on https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/running and you can see s390x is a bit behind
[19:05] <vorlon> it's true that s390x isn't a target arch for desktop; I'm hesitant to extrapolate from that to ignoring failures of core graphics libraries however, since remote X display is still a thing
[19:07] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: um are all of these manually-triggered tests for you in the s390x autopkgtest queue because you thought the tests had been lost?
[19:09] <jbicha> in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rust-gdk4-sys/0.6.3-2 & https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rust-gtk4-sys/0.6.3-3 we are specifically skipping the part of the autopkgtest that failed
[19:15] <jbicha> some background at bug 2032698
[19:15] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Bug 2032698 in gtk4 (Ubuntu) "rust gtk4 autopkgtests failing" [High, Fix Committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2032698
[20:46] <LocutusOfBorg> vorlon, yes
[20:46] <LocutusOfBorg> queue was shown as empty :/
[20:48] <LocutusOfBorg> (but not all of them)
[21:23] <vorlon> LocutusOfBorg: ok I've flushed all of your requested s390x retries from the queue; I don't really have a good way to be selective about the ones I delete.  you can requeue any that are still needed
[21:55] <bdmurray> The queue is no longer showing as empty
[22:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-advantage-tools (bionic-proposed/main) [28.1~18.04 => 29.3~18.04] (core)
[22:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-advantage-tools (focal-proposed/main) [28.1~20.04 => 29.3~20.04] (core)
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[22:39] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-advantage-tools (xenial-proposed/main) [28.1~16.04 => 29.3~16.04] (no packageset)
[22:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-advantage-tools (lunar-proposed/main) [28.1~23.04 => 29.3~23.04] (core)


[04:01] <w3br3ap3r> hey what is the command for getting the sizes of directories like a list (as in case of files ls)... ?? I tried du but it doesn't seem to give a list of directories in current directory with their sizes..
[04:03] <holstein> w3br3ap3r: you want that in a command line? you dont want to right click in a filemanager?
[04:03] <w3br3ap3r> yes ofcourse in command line
[04:03] <w3br3ap3r> for using in ssh
[04:04] <holstein> w3br3ap3r: well, this is not the server channel, so its not that obvious.. you would need to specify
[04:04] <w3br3ap3r> oh sorry about that
[04:05] <holstein> w3br3ap3r: du is working pretty well for me.. what is it that you are tring to get that du is not providing?
[04:06] <w3br3ap3r> well a list of directories in current working directory with the size of each...
[04:07] <w3br3ap3r> du gives me some data.. but i cant get it in this particular format
[04:07] <holstein> and that format is?
[04:08] <holstein> du is cranking that out for me.. you think its permissions related?
[04:08] <w3br3ap3r> no no... du is working and giving the data... i think its just the way i use it .. :(
[04:09] <w3br3ap3r> du -sh
[04:09] <w3br3ap3r> and it gives me the full size
[04:09] <w3br3ap3r> not the individual components of current directory
[04:09] <holstein> w3br3ap3r: im literally typing du and hitting enter and its listing directories and sizes
[04:09] <holstein> i dont think im clear on what it is you want to see.. you want the sub directories?
[04:09] <w3br3ap3r> yes yes i do
[04:09] <w3br3ap3r> and no files
[04:10] <w3br3ap3r> and not to go down more than one level
[04:10] <holstein> well, you can just ignore the files
[04:10] <holstein> thats not going to work for you?
[04:10] <w3br3ap3r> that gives all the sub-sub directories too.. ( i hope you got me)
[04:11] <w3br3ap3r> oh i just looked it up....
[04:11] <w3br3ap3r> du -sh *
[04:11] <holstein> cool.. enjoy!
[04:11] <w3br3ap3r> thats what i was looking for
[04:11] <w3br3ap3r> :)
[04:11] <w3br3ap3r> holstein, thanks for your brainwave
[04:12] <holstein> w3br3ap3r: :)
[04:56] <w3br3ap3r> saji89, hey
[04:56] <saji89> w3br3ap3r, Hi.
[04:57] <w3br3ap3r> saji89, how u doing today?>
[04:58] <saji89> w3br3ap3r, Doing good. Just woke up. ;)
[04:58] <w3br3ap3r> :)
[19:18] <kruptos> I've upgraded from Ubuntu 12.10 automatically from 12.04 and I've lost my sound
[19:19] <holstein> kruptos: i would check that nothing is muted.. i would mute and unmute.. i would look in pavucontrol ..i would look in alsamixer in the terminal
[19:19] <holstein> !sound
[19:19] <ubot2> If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.
[19:20] <kruptos> Thank you for the response.  I'm going to try those suggestions... one sec
[19:20] <holstein> i would open the terminal and run lspci.. i would look for the audio device. i would then run "aplay -l" ...if you see it there, alsa is using it
[19:22] <kruptos> I'm not muted.  When I run aplay -l I see 2 divices under "PLAYBACK hardwre devices"
[19:22] <holstein> kruptos: im not saying "you muted it and dont know"
[19:22] <holstein> im saying, sometimes, you need to mute and unmute
[19:23] <holstein> there is a known bug in XFCE where when you mute with the hardware keyboard sitch, you cant unmute it there
[19:23] <holstein> kruptos: you can download the ubuntu 12.10 live CD and try it, so you'll konw that the sound works and its just something you need to "set" properly
[19:24] <kruptos> Oh ok. That sounds like it could be the problem.  At the top you said to look in Pavucontrol,  do I have to install that?
[19:27] <holstein> kruptos: you dont have to, but you can.. and it might be helpful
[19:28] <kruptos> alsamixer looks to be set up right
[19:28] <kruptos> Nothing is muted
[19:28] <holstein> kruptos: i would literlaly mute and unmute *everything*
[19:28] <holstein> i would not trust any labels
[21:07] <DreadNaught> hello all, I'm in need of a bit of help if anyone can please?
[21:09] <DreadNaught> seems I'm getting a 'nonetype' object has no attribute 'get_info" error and not sure since I'm new with linux
[21:09] <DreadNaught> trying to insteall it and it won't install from the disk at all but trying the windows installer and that's what happens


[00:05] <charlie-tca> hm, you did shutdown after running the "install oem"? A restart fails, AFAIR
[00:06] <bladernr> fader_:  yeah, prompts, but still allows.  My password for my encrypted lvm is 'a'
[00:06] <fader_> charlie-tca: You know, I'm not 100% sure now.  I know at least one of my attempts was a restart, but I don't remember if I also attempted a shutdown :[
[00:07] <fader_> bladernr: Ah, okay.    Do you really want to do that?  You do, huh?  Okay."
[00:08] <bladernr> fader_:  indeed... but add to that the fact that once you've installed, it's impossible to create single char passwords, and even somewhat random ones like z1c3b5 were rejected for begin too simple (granted that one is a bit simple)
[00:08] <fader_> Ah, heh
[00:09] <fader_> bladernr: There's *always* a way... you may have to work around the UI, but there's always a way :P
[00:09] <bladernr> we need to either enforce a more common sense and worthwhile password policy across the board, or just stop requiring passwords.
[00:09] <fader_> +1
[00:09] <charlie-tca> You should be allowed to be as dumb/ignorant as you desire
[00:09] <fader_> Though I'm in favor of allowing it to be overridden
[00:10] <bladernr> fader_:  nah... tried in both console and GUI and the tools in each require minimum of 6 chars
[00:10] <fader_> bladernr: Hex editor?
[00:10] <fader_> ;)
[00:11] <bladernr> charlie-tca:  true, but we're also trying to tell the world that Ubuntu is better than Windows, and Windows doesn't even allow passwords that simple (though it does allow you to use it without passwords)
[00:11] <bladernr> fader_:  heh... no one really uses those things anymore
[00:11] <fader_> Hehe
[00:11] <charlie-tca> oem on 386 hardware from the Ubuntu alternate image worked
[00:12] <bladernr> anyway, for whatever reason, completely unintentionally, this is bugging me as much as the grub issue in Lucid bothered me... sigh...
[00:12] <bladernr> I'm so gonna get fired.
[00:13] <charlie-tca> nah, I think you are right. After logging in, /etc/login.defs prevents passwords shorter than whatever is set in it. During the install, the same default length should be enforced.
[00:13] <fader_> bladernr: I'd propose something for UDS about it
[00:14] <fader_> Or find a session you can hijack
[00:14] <bladernr> heh
[00:15] <fader_> Nah, seriously
[00:15] <fader_> It's a worthwhile point and sounds like a foundations issue
[00:15] <fader_> Or a foundations papercut at least
[00:15] <bladernr> yeah... we'll see what happens (I seriously doubt this will get fixed before Sunday) but I'll wait till then
[00:16] <caglar_> Hi
[00:16] <caglar_> I encounter with a problem on Maverick and need help
[00:17] <bladernr> caglar_:  is this a problem with Maverick ISOs that are currently being tested?
[00:17] <caglar_> It's related with the software
[00:18] <caglar_> Maverick software
[00:18] <fader_> caglar_: Feel free to ask, but you might have better luck in #ubuntu+1 -- this channel is used for coordinating testing, so not many people idle here listening for questions :/
[00:19] <caglar_> ok I will try the other channel
[00:20] <bladernr> caglar_:  sorry, wasn't trying to sound harsh, asking because of what fader_  said.
[00:20] <ameetp> fader_, bladernr: any of you run into problems with ubuntu server when you don't select grub?
[00:20] <bladernr> more likely to find answers that are ISO/installer related in here right now, where you'll probably have better luck in +1 for more related things
[00:20] <bladernr> ameetp:  did you set your single char password?
[00:21] <bladernr> sigh... I need to just stop.
[00:21] <fader_> ameetp: Er, not sure what you mean, "don't select grub"
[00:21] <fader_> ameetp: What are you seeing?
[00:21] <bladernr> ameetp:  I did a couple server runs later, but no I did not notice any issue at all
[00:21] <bladernr> err... earlier, not later
[00:21] <bladernr> crap... gotta throw some clothes on and run to the store before it closes... bbiab
[00:22] <ameetp> fader_: got the option to install grub, but if you say 'No' the screen just goes blank and nothing happens
[00:22] <fader_> Ah, hmm I haven't tried that one
[00:22] <fader_> ameetp: IIRC it *should* take you through the reboot stuff after that; I know I tried it around beta time and didn't get hung up
[00:22] <charlie-tca> and you can't go into rescue mode on the server cd to fix grub, either
[00:23] <ameetp> fader_: yeah that's what I thought.
[00:23] <ameetp> fader_, bladernr, charlie-tca: If you guys get a chance, could you double check and let me know
[00:24] <charlie-tca> Sure. but it might be a while
[00:24] <fader_> ameetp: I'm actually about to bolt and make some food before my blood sugar drops to 0, so it'll be a while for me too
[00:24] <charlie-tca> ameetp: does it matter which arch?
[00:24] <fader_> I'll kick off a server install before I do and come back to punch grub in the face though
[00:25] <charlie-tca> fader, you gonna run 32bit or 64bit?
[00:25] <fader_> charlie-tca: Heh, I was waiting for you to pick one :)
[00:25] <fader_> charlie-tca: I'll grab 64
[00:25] <charlie-tca> Okay, I will run 32bit
[00:26] <ameetp> thanks fader and charlie-tca.  I've only tried it on 64 bit
[00:27] <charlie-tca> ameetp: any particular install? I am not familiar with server anymore
[00:27] <fader_> ameetp: My install is running... I'll come back in an hour or two to check out grub and let you know
[00:27] <charlie-tca> Mine is started, I'll try to stay with it
[00:28] <ameetp> charlie-tca: I was trying the encrypted LVM one, but I don't think it matters... But I am checking now ;)
[00:28] <fader_> In the meantime, fader needs food badly
[00:28] <fader_> BBIAB
[00:55] <ameetp> hmm... it worked this time on server amd64.  Maybe I fat fingered through the screens
[00:56] <charlie-tca> ameetp: I have the question "Install the GRUB boot loader to the master boot record?"
[00:56] <charlie-tca> Is that when I say no?
[00:56] <ameetp> yeah, then manually specify the partition or place you want it
[00:56] <charlie-tca> Okay, where should it go?
[00:57] <charlie-tca> or does it stay empty?
[00:57] <ameetp> on the next screen you specify where it goes
[00:57] <charlie-tca> Right, I have that screen now. that is the one I leave empty now/
[00:58] <charlie-tca> ?
[00:58] <ameetp> I specified /dev/sda
[00:58] <charlie-tca> It doesn't care
[00:58] <charlie-tca> I left it empty, but it is finishing the install
[00:59] <charlie-tca> Locked on the reboot, since there is no GRUB installed
[00:59] <ameetp> yeah, you need specify something
[00:59] <charlie-tca> Okay, but it never blanked out
[00:59] <ameetp> ah okay
[00:59] <ameetp> good to know
[00:59] <charlie-tca> I will run it on hardware in about an hour
[01:00] <ameetp> charlie-tca thanks for trying this
[01:00] <ameetp> I need to get some food
[01:00] <ameetp> bbiab
[01:06] <fader> ameetp: I can confirm charlie-tca's report... ubuntu-server amd64 default install on virtualbox
[01:06]  * fader goes to eat his tasty-smelling food. :)
[01:07] <areeda> Hi,  If I want to run an ISO test, should I use the Daily or the Maverick RC?  just want to verify
[01:09] <bladernr> areeda:  you need to use the current iso
[01:10] <bladernr> areeda:  if you look at the top of the test case you select (for example: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/4650/58 ) you'll see a download link that points you to the right ISO image.
[01:10] <bladernr> otherwise, you need daily-live/current/*.iso or daily/current/*.iso depending on the ISO you want to test
[01:10] <areeda> Thanks but that's my question: which one do we defines as the "current" iso,.  I think you answered my question
[01:11] <areeda> What is the difference between daily and daily-live?
[01:13] <bladernr> heh... honestly, I'm not entirely sure... I think the chief difference is that daily images are spun daily, while daily-live are spun AT LEAST daily, but maybe more than that... but that's just a guess.  The DVD images are dailys but also have the LiveCD environment (I originally thought the diff was liveCD vs debian-installer)
[01:13] <bladernr> but I never paid enough attention to the two, I just sync them all automatically and test away.
[01:14] <areeda> great!  I'll start downloads of daily then go make dinner.
[01:14] <areeda> Thanks again
[01:15] <bladernr> sure!  cheers
[01:25] <charlie-tca> when you look in http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/ under each version, there is a directory called "current" which has the latest image
[01:26] <charlie-tca> Daily is the alternate installer image, daily-live is the destkop image that most people will download
[01:33] <bladernr> charlie-tca:  where is it that I can cause server to fail like ameetp was describing?
[01:33] <bladernr> I'm sitting at a "configure grub" screen in d-i that is simply asking if I want to install to mbr
[01:34] <bladernr> charlie-tca:  NM... saw it in the scrollback
[01:34] <charlie-tca> that's it. Tell it no
[01:35] <bladernr> yeah, then tell it /dev/sda
[01:35] <charlie-tca> The failure was a blank screen when hitting enter after saying no at that screen
[01:35] <bladernr> ahhh... didn't see that.  Selected "No" and got the screen to enter the location for grub, so I entered /dev/sda
[01:35] <bladernr> now it's ready to reboot.
[01:35] <charlie-tca> yup
[01:36] <bladernr> got grub and it's booting
[01:36] <charlie-tca> The failure was not getting the screen you could enter the location on
[01:36] <bladernr> ahhh... yeah, didn't get that
[01:36] <bladernr> err... didn't fail like that
[01:36] <charlie-tca> neither can anyone else yet. I will try a hardware install next
[01:38] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu alternate images - 32 & 64 done except ltsp
[01:43] <charlie-tca> Hardware server encrypted LVM running now
[02:14] <charlie-tca> 386 server - encrypted LVM on hardware passed
[02:18] <charlie-tca> back in an hour to finish up 64bit xubuntu tonite
[02:20] <areeda> What speeds do you typically get downloading an iso image?  Seems to me it was pretty good last time by right now I'm only getting 40KB/s and I still get decent rates on other sites.
[07:12] <bladernr> ok... 31 tests knocked out... time to go to bed I think...
[07:19] <skaet> bladernr,  thanks for all your efforts on the tests!   Sleep well.   our shift over here is starting to wake up....
[07:25] <ara> good morning all!
[07:25]  * skaet is delighted by how many test cases have been covered already when she woke up.  very cool!!
[07:25] <skaet> good morning ara
[07:26] <ara> good morning skaet
[07:26] <ara> skaet, already at the office?? is too early for you!
[07:27] <skaet> ara, working from hotel room.  Jet lag has its uses ;)
[07:27] <ara> skaet, yeah :)
[07:29] <skaet> ara, from a quick scan of the bugs on the scoreboard,  looks like ubiquity is the problem child for the release.
[07:29] <ara> skaet, yes, apparently oem-config is not working for some people
[07:30] <ara> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/650703
[07:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 650703 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "OEM config appears to work but user setup is not run after reboot (affects: 2) (heat: 500)" [Undecided,New]
[07:30] <skaet> yup,  more than that.  Will bounce you the ones I'm seeing...
[07:31] <skaet> in particular, am a little concerned about the translation side as well.
[07:31] <skaet> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/629061
[07:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 629061 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 1 other project) "Desktop is in english after an installation in French (affects: 1) (heat: 106)" [Undecided,New]
[07:33] <ara> skaet, OK, I will start my day with an installation in Spanish to see if I can confirm the issue
[07:33] <skaet> is this still a valid issue?  do we have positive proof translations work for some languages and the issue is localized.
[07:33] <skaet> thanks ara. :)
[07:34] <skaet> I'll bounce some others to your inbox, as well.   The one on the plan to discuss with robbie and colin this morning.   ;)
[07:34] <ara> skaet, thanks
[07:36] <ara> skaet, I will ask for more information to Jean Baptiste, he did not mention if he had internet connection or not, which historically has had side effects on lang packs
[07:36] <skaet> ara,  good thing to confirm.   didn't know about the side effect, but it makes sense.
[07:37] <ara> skaet, French is included in the CD, so it should be mostly in French even if he hadn't Internet connection. But the more information, the merrier
[07:38] <skaet> ara, indeed.  :)
[08:55] <alourie> good morning
[09:01] <ara> jibel, related to bug 629061, is this happening with current images as well?
[09:01] <ubot4> ara: Bug 629061 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/629061 is private
[09:01] <ara> (the bot seems broken, the bug is public)
[09:01]  * jibel reading the report
[09:02] <ara> it was filed 5 days ago
[09:03] <jibel> oh, that's my report. It was filed 1month ago and 5days ago.
[09:03] <jibel> yes, latest zsync
[09:04] <jibel> as of yesterday evening.
[09:05] <jibel> I resynced this morning and retried the LiveCD installation and it's still broken.
[09:05] <jibel> Don't you see that in spanish ?
[09:05] <ara> but always using Wubi?
[09:05] <jibel> no, livecd too
[09:05] <ara> jibel, mmm, weird, let me check one thing
[09:05] <ara> (I don't see that in Spanish)
[09:09] <ara> jibel, I know what's happening, let me comment the bug
[09:10] <ara> jibel, well, when launchpad becomes r/w again...
[09:10] <jibel> The "language & Text" dialog is in French, in "Language for windows and menus" 'Français is the only value in the list, but the langpacks are not installed
[09:11] <ara> the thing is that French is not in the CD, so it has to be installed from the Internet
[09:11] <ara> jibel, but bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/656037 is preventing that
[09:11] <ubot4> ara: Error: Bug #656037 is private.
[09:11] <ara> everything has the same root cause
[09:12] <davmor2> morning ara, I doubt I'll be able to do any testing I'm afraid no spare time
[09:12] <jibel> ara, right, I confirm that
[09:13] <ara> davmor2, OK, no worries
[09:13] <alourie> folks, if I update my Maverick-pre right now, I will get to the latest, right?
[09:14] <ara> alourie, yes
[09:16] <alourie> thanks ara
[09:16] <alourie> wow, it's done
[09:16] <alourie> so it was pretty up to date I guess :-)
[10:47] <sulumar> Greetings
[10:49] <ara> hello sulumar, welcome
[11:02] <sulumar> before i start doing something useless
[11:03] <sulumar> is there anything that needs to be tested on 10.10
[11:03] <sulumar> ?
[11:06] <jibel> We are currently testing ISOs. You'll find the list of test cases http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/
[11:06] <jibel> You can start by any uncovered test case.
[11:12] <sulumar> ok ill download Xubuntu alternate and test it to start
[11:14] <ara> sulumar, great, thanks
[11:14] <ara> sulumar, you can mark the test as "Started" in the tracker
[11:18] <sulumar> Idiot question; how to mark the test as started
[11:18] <ara> sulumar, have you open an account in the tracker?
[11:19] <sulumar> i have
[11:19] <ara> then, log in, and select the testcase you are about to start
[11:19] <ara> you can submit your result as "Started"
[11:20] <sulumar> ok done
[11:20] <ara> great
[11:20] <sulumar> ok done
[11:27] <marjo> sulumar: welcome to qa team!
[11:29] <sulumar> thx
[11:29] <sulumar> expoiting the advantages of a laboratory machine setup for virtualisation
[11:35] <marjo> sulumar: nice
[11:37] <sulumar> an i7 with 12gb ram isnt too bad to virtualize ubuntu
[11:37] <marjo> sulumar: good to know
[11:38] <marjo> sulumar: nice system
[11:39] <sulumar> sadly not mine and i can only use it until december
[11:39] <marjo> sulumar; glad you have it available now; very timely
[11:42] <sulumar> at home i am under Fedora LXDE on 512 MB ram. A 12 Years old machine
[11:46] <sulumar>  Install (auto-resize) Xubuntu alternat: Passed
[11:48] <sulumar> Next one
[12:18] <sulumar> resizing the disk is kinda slow
[12:23] <ara> sulumar, yes, that's normal
[12:24] <ara> it is not a trivial task to do :)
[12:24] <sulumar> well it works, thats what matters. Test Passed
[12:25] <sulumar> now for the encryption one
[12:29] <sulumar> until there nothing went wrong
[12:42] <sulumar> wasnt there a meeting yesterday ??
[12:43] <ara> yes, there was
[12:45] <sulumar> is the report allready avidable
[12:45] <sulumar> ??µ
[12:48] <ara> not yet, I guess charlie-tca will send it today
[12:49] <sulumar> good
[12:50] <sulumar> another good news ist that the Xubuntu Alternate i386 passed all mandatory testcases without a singel bug
[12:54]  * ara -> lunch
[12:59] <sulumar> passing to the mandatorys of Ubuntu Studio
[13:10] <sulumar> its kinda funny to make iso testing that way
[13:11] <pbaxter> hello all
[13:11] <pbaxter> what do i have to change to upgrade to ubuntu 10.10 from lucid?
[13:13] <sulumar> execute update-manager -d from command line
[13:13] <pbaxter> thanks
[13:56] <charlie-tca> Good mornig
[13:56] <jibel> Morning charlie-tca
[13:58] <ara> morning charlie-tca
[13:58] <jibel> what's the package to report bugs against kubuntu in general ? e.g when testing the LiveCD the desktop completely freeze after a few minutes.
[13:59] <charlie-tca> Doesn't kubuntu still use ubiquity?
[13:59] <charlie-tca> or rather, casper
[14:00] <jibel> never mind, I'll use kubuntu-netbook
[14:04] <bladernr> morning all :-)
[14:06] <ara> good morning bladernr
[14:08] <hggdh> yo bladernr
[14:08] <bladernr> :-)
[14:09] <bladernr> holy ara, hggdh
[14:09] <bladernr> errr... hola, not holy
[14:09] <bladernr> sigh
[14:09] <hggdh> but holy does make sense in regards to Ara :-)
[14:09] <bladernr> it's true
[14:09] <hggdh> applying it to me, it is quite a stretch, though
[14:11] <jibel> good morning bladernr!
[14:12] <bladernr> heh...  well, maybe in the terms of "Holy crap, hggdh what have you done now?!  or "Holy Cow, hggdh , who is that svelte older lady chatting you up at the bar?" :-)
[14:12] <bladernr> jibel:  morning!
[14:12] <pedro_> lol
[14:17] <charlie-tca> ara: that shutdown issue with xubuntu, hardware or VM?
[14:17] <ara> charlie-tca, kvm
[14:17] <charlie-tca> Okay. I haven't seen it in hardware
[14:18] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu Desktop 64 will need a respin. It is still oversized on the testing candidate
[14:20] <ara> everything is likely to need a respin
[14:20] <hggdh> bladernr: what old lady, sir
[14:21]  * hggdh has no recollection of that event
[14:21] <bladernr> heh...
[14:21] <hggdh> :-)
[14:22] <skaet> hi ara,  just finished talking with cjwatson.  We're waiting for the ubiquity builds to upload and then the image builds will start.  Est. is about 1.5 hrs, before the first images roll off.
[14:22] <ara> skaet, thanks for the update
[14:23]  * charlie-tca will be gone from about 18:00 UTC for the day today.
[14:52] <bladernr> skaet:  is that a respin of everything?
[14:52]  * bladernr just noticed that the kubuntu dvd images disappeared while he was in the middle of syncing them
[14:55] <charlie-tca> ara: yes, I will get the QA meeting notes and logs out today
[14:55] <hggdh> ara: we are missing the UEC tests in the QA tracker
[14:56] <ara> who usually posts those?
[14:56] <ara> is ttx?
[14:57] <ara> hggdh, I am asking him about it
[14:58] <bladernr> ara:  are we respinning every image? if so, shouldn't we kill the tracker for now?
[14:58] <ara> bladernr, it shouldn't be me who decide that
[14:58] <ara> skaet, ^?
[15:00] <bladernr> ara:  just noticed that kubuntu DVD download links have disappeared, but the cases aren't marked as respinning...
[15:00] <bladernr> :(
[15:09] <alourie> ara: great screenshot of the first experience. I thought maybe adding screenshots from the first release for comparison :-)
[15:13] <skaet> ara, bladernr,  we're respinning them all.  I'll go in and kill the ones in the tracker now.
[15:14] <bladernr> skaet:  ahhh, thanks.
[15:14] <skaet> sorry,  was in discussion about the grub bug
[15:14] <bladernr> skaet:  no worries... I can well imagine what it's like over there today... I don't envy you ;-)
[15:15] <skaet> :)  its quite interesting actually,  learning alot as I go,  which is cool.
[15:15] <bladernr> excellent!
[15:23] <skaet> ara, bladernr  - images disabled now.
[15:24] <charlie-tca> Thanks, skaet.
[16:35]  * ara needs to step out for some errands. She will be back in about 1 hour
[17:22] <ara> ubuntu alt posted
[17:24]  * pedro_ syncing
[18:06] <hggdh> new server images posted
[18:07] <fader> hggdh: I'm not sure but they might end up getting respun again, so you might want to wait a few minutes
[18:07] <ara> my alternate installation failed, due to some uninstallable packages
[18:08] <hggdh> fader: hope springs eternal...
[18:08] <fader> Hehe
[18:08] <fader> hggdh: My hope is that cjwatson has figured out bug 641259... he is making optimistic noises about it right now :)
[18:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 641259 in grub2 (Ubuntu Maverick) (and 2 other projects) "grub does not appear to load after maverick post-beta install (affects: 12) (heat: 82)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/641259
[18:09] <hggdh> fader: yes, but keep in mind that cjwatson is usually making noises/grumbling, so it is all question of how one interprets it...
[18:12] <fader> hggdh: Yes, but usually his noises aren't this happy sounding :)
[18:12] <hggdh> ooohhh
[18:13] <ara> no panic, wrong image
[18:13] <fader> hggdh: In fact, sounds like it's not going to require a respin, so ignore what I said earlier
[18:13] <hggdh> fader: you see -- hope, etc...
[18:13] <marjo> fader,hggdh: cjwatson has a proposal for a workaround
[18:13] <fader> Hehe
[18:14] <fader> marjo: Indeed, he and I have been speaking
[18:14] <marjo> and then maybe you can try it on one or a couple of systems before we go for dinner (will make me feel better)
[18:14] <hggdh> what, going to dinner?
[18:15] <marjo> hggdh: yes, i do have to eat a little and drink a little
[18:15] <marjo> ttx is proposing indian food
[18:15] <hggdh> marjo: oh, that is good, and London has pretty good indian restaurants!
[18:16]  * hggdh meanwhile watches 4 systems install the new ISO server image
[18:27]  * skaet just posted kubuntu-alternate,  kubuntu-desktop
[18:28]  * skaet got the blessing from cjwatson, and have restarted the arm-* builds too.
[19:15] <njin> hello, i'm testing ubuntu amd64 2010107, everythings ok, but at the start just after grun i've modprobe fatal error ....kernel 2.6.35..-generic. then plymouth stat regularry. In logs don't seems to be nothing relevant, but can you tell me where to look to found track of this ?
[19:16] <njin> Are someone having this?
[19:16] <njin> Thanks
[20:02] <xdatap> hello. I just received notification for an Ubuntu Netbook Test but the image doesn't exist. Ubuntu Netbook Edition [20101007]: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/4705
[20:02] <xdatap> Is it going to have another respin?
[20:10] <ara__> xdatap, the image exists
[20:10] <xdatap> ara, oh, now it works. Let's sync :)
[20:10] <ara> :)
[20:24] <highvoltage> is edubuntu dvd really rebuilding?
[20:25] <highvoltage> (iso.qa says so)
[20:45] <bladernr> so before I start up again... are the things that are present really present, or is there another respin in the works (looking at the Kubuntu stuff for now)
[20:59] <ara> jibel, have you tried installing in French with the latest builds?
[21:16] <jibel> ara, I'm testing it now.
[22:10] <jibel> installation in French is fixed with the latest iso and sources.list is correct.
[22:14] <skaet> \o/
[23:09] <bladernr> What the heck is AzBot and why am I getting messages from it when it bans someone?
[23:58] <marjo> edubuntu, mythbuntu posted
[23:59]  * fader starts re-syncing
[23:59] <marjo> fader: thx!
[23:59] <fader> marjo: Go to bed! :P


[02:43] <Eickmeyer> Big mention on Forbes, everyone! https://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2018/09/25/open-source-challenge-why-one-band-chose-linux-to-record-their-new-album/#65c10f9e4439


[07:47] <happyaron> FJKong: so lenky is releasing new version?
[08:10] <FJKong> happyaron: he merged my patch
[09:37] <ypwong> wuxiaoyi, hi
[09:37] <ypwong> wuxiaoyi, 我有个问题
[13:24] <FJKong> ？
[15:13] <happyaron> https://github.com/lenky0401/fcitx-qimpanel-configtool/issues/11
[15:29] <JackYu> :)


[02:37] <karanveersingh56> Hi Team
[02:37] <karanveersingh56> Commissioning process is halted due to lldpd package not found
[02:38] <karanveersingh56> i dont have internet access in maas server now , how can I fix this
[03:09] <karanveersingh56> anyone who can advice
[03:09] <karanveersingh56> Commissioning process is halted due to lldpd package not found
[03:09] <karanveersingh56> i dont have internet access in maas server now , how can I fix this
[03:19] <karanveersingh56> anyone reply please
[03:19] <karanveersingh56> Commissioning process is halted due to lldpd package not found
[03:19] <karanveersingh56> i dont have internet access in maas server now , how can I fix this
[05:04] <karanveersingh56> Hi Guys , please advice
[05:05] <karanveersingh56> How can I commission without internet , I have local apt repo updated in maas but still lldpd package is failing to install
[22:22] <mup> Bug #1897184 opened: MAAS should have option to disable cloud-init after machine is successfully deployed <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1897184>
[22:28] <mup> Bug #1897184 changed: MAAS should have option to disable cloud-init after machine is successfully deployed <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1897184>
[22:37] <mup> Bug #1897184 opened: MAAS should have option to disable cloud-init after machine is successfully deployed <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1897184>


[00:22] <hatch> rick_h_ well doesn't look like Ubuntu is going on my MBP either....same issue as your air
[00:23] <rick_h_> hatch: yea? sucky. Wonder how the other guy got it going?
[00:24] <hatch> no idea, maybe he has an older MBP or something
[00:24] <hatch> or he was full of it and just runs it in a vm :P
[00:24] <rick_h_> glad it's not just me though. I was starting to think maybe it was me as it seems others have it going
[00:24] <rick_h_> hatch: did you try the upstream kernel per the bug as well?
[00:25] <hatch> I don't know how to install a separate kernel :)
[00:25] <hatch> since I can't even get to a terminal
[00:28] <rick_h_> ah, the instructions are in the bug report
[00:28] <rick_h_> when you get to the grub boot screen, hit 'e'
[00:29] <rick_h_> then go down to there it says 'quiet spash' and change it to 'noquit nosplash nr_cpus=1'
[00:29] <rick_h_> then hit f10
[00:29] <rick_h_> and it should boot
[00:29] <rick_h_> and you have the ethernet adapter, make sure to boot with that in
[00:29] <rick_h_> then you can use that to get to the net, get the kernels mentioned in the bug report, etc
[00:30] <hatch> cool I'll try that - although if you had the same issue it's unlikely that it's going to work :)
[00:31] <hatch> how did you get that dump which starts with ProblemType: Bug ?
[00:32] <hatch> I should add mine to the bug report if the upstream doesn't fix it
[00:36] <rick_h_> hatch: yea, the idea is that you must have some different hardware
[00:36] <rick_h_> so it can help narrow down, provide more detail, etc
[02:40] <hatch> rick_h_ sorry I couldn't get on freenode for a couple hours
[02:45] <rick_h_> all good
[03:04] <hatch> rick_h_ if you're still around, what command did you run to get that bug detail list?
[17:47] <hazmat> rick_h_, looks like some breakage on manage.jujucharms.com .. http://manage.jujucharms.com/search?search_text=openstack&op=
[17:47] <hazmat> can't search for anything
[18:22] <hazmat> Makyo, jcastro afaics search on jujucharms.com and manage.jujucharms.com is broken
[18:22]  * hazmat wonders who to call
[20:01] <jcastro> hazmat, I had issues yesterday but not that bad
[20:01] <jcastro> I'll ask around
[22:54] <rick_h_> hazmat: jcastro looking
[22:59] <rick_h_> jcastro: I've got no permissino to the RT. It looks like ES server is having issues in prodstack. Error is from ue: [-] Incoming
[22:59] <rick_h_>      Subject: Search on jujucharms.com broken
[22:59] <rick_h_> bah
[22:59] <rick_h_>        Owner: Nobody
[22:59] <rick_h_>   Requestors<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:00] <rick_h_> error is from ue: [-] Incoming
[23:00] <rick_h_>      Subject: Search on jujucharms.com broken
[23:00] <rick_h_>       Status: newbah
[23:00] <rick_h_>        Owner: Nobody
[23:00] <rick_h_>   Requestors<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[23:00] <rick_h_> ElasticHttpError that is
[23:00] <rick_h_> jcastro: if you get get me access I'd like to add content and I'll watch out and worst case get Australia webops Sunday night.
[23:00] <rick_h_> jcastro: hazmat the default content is loading at the moment so it's at least not failing on page load :/


[16:34] <ailo> status.ubuntu.com for US looks really bad :(. That will change soon though
[17:04] <scott-work> ailo: many times it is because we haven't updated a blueprint
[17:05] <scott-work> i.e. to say "DONE" or "INPROGRESS"
[17:06] <ailo> scott-work: May be. But I also think we have a lot in progress right now that will end up being done, just a bit later
[17:14] <scott-work> ailo: i found that many times last cycle that i would say "crap!  we're soooo behind the curve (or straight line)" and then update the blueprints and BAM, we were actually ahead of schedule :)
[17:14] <scott-work> i think the "status by asignee" is also a very telling section
[17:15] <ailo> I feel pretty confident about the current situation, but it'll get a little crazy for a while, I would think
[17:19] <scott-work> hehehe, it seems to, i guess getting more done earlier is better
[21:53] <len-dt> ailo, I am not sure what I will work on... so when I start it is inprogress.
[21:54] <len-dt> ailo, the comments I have got on application changes (2 of them) have been all positive. I will change the seeds next.
[23:15] <ailo> len-dt: Yeah, I will have to lay low for another couple of weeks, as promised, and then see how best I can make those blueprints get done in best order
[23:16] <ailo> Feel like I'm building Noahs Arc
[23:16] <ailo> Been sort of working on the same thing now for almost 3 years
[23:16] <ailo> And this summer it just has to get applicable enough for live use
[23:19] <len-dt> ailo, I'll keep pecking away at things.


[09:40] <Keybuk> sadmac2: hi
[09:41] <Keybuk> mbiebl: they probably were once ;)  no C programmer is perfect at cleaning up #include lines
[13:30] <mbiebl> Keybuk: ok, I'll remove them then.
[13:31] <mbiebl> A nice side-effect of cleaning up the header is, that it compiles on ia64
[13:38] <ion> lc
[14:01] <sadmac> Keybuk: in furtherance of some of the changes I'm making to how blocking is done, I'm making EventOperator be an N-ary tree
[14:02] <sadmac> its a space optimization, but its more to make it simpler to figure out certain things about them just by looking at them
[14:10] <sadmac> Keybuk: also, should a "finished" event still be blocking other events? because it seems like it would happen from the code.
[14:41] <mbiebl> Keybuk: would you mind applying this patch upstream: http://paste.debian.net/42850/


[04:12] <willwh> hi guys - anyone awake?
[04:12] <willwh> johanbr: you're not alive are you?
[04:19] <IdleOne> I'm awake, sorta
[06:21] <BobJonkman> I'm still awake. Hi willwh, IdleOne
[14:45] <IdleOne> Canadian Women!!!! \o/
[15:14] <genii> IdleOne: Did you catch the Canada - USA score? It was 1-0 US when I left for work
[15:16] <genii> Ah, http://nesn.com/2014/02/usa-canada-womens-olympic-hockey-live-grudge-match-picks-up-in-sochi/ tells me we won 3-2 !!!
[15:17]  * genii does a happy-dance in his Team Canada Oympic jersey
[17:58] <willwh> hi
[18:01]  * genii slides willwh a delicious beverage
[18:32] <willwh> :D
[18:32] <willwh> thanks genii
[18:32] <genii> Anytime, of course!