[18:06] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, but it's still not clear exactly what went wrong as it's such a major f-up that I can't even get to the command line and dmesg etc
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: so far you haven't actually explained what happens when you boot. You've just moaned which helps nobody. Most of all you.
[18:07] <zelozelos> how do i fix it? i found a few posts on bugs but idunno what to do
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: if you make a fresh ubuntu user, is it the same there>?
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: you can press CTRL+ALT+T and run a terminal
[18:07] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, nothing happened when I booted, just a cursor after bios, then bobweaver gave me a link to a series of instructions to reinstall grub, I now have a grub prompt
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: try saying THAT rather than whinging.
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: have you tried the boot option:  nomodeset
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: if you hold SHIFT at boot you should see grub
[18:08] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, I did, but there was not help forthcoming.
[18:08] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, I am at grub, but it's not clear what to do next
[18:09] <wtfnotacceptable> i.e. "grub>" is what I get after boot
[18:09] <wtfnotacceptable> but it's not bash, I can't even use fdisk
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: press E on the kernel to (e)dit the line, delete the words 'quiet splash' and in it's place add 'nomodeset'  press ENTER to boot
[18:09] <tmmunq> yeah, that means theres something wrong with your grub.cfg
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: oh then it sounds like the MBR is a bit freaky
[18:09] <tmmunq> wrong root, initrd, something like that
[18:09] <zelozelos> i would just install grub, like it says ;)
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video   may help
[18:10] <Sach> what's the difference between installing updates though Update Manager and running sudo apt-get update in Termina?
[18:10] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, I don't get a boot menu at all, it was nothing till I booted into a live usb and reinstalled grub. Ok I will check your link
[18:10] <zelozelos> nothing
[18:10] <OerHeks> Sach, none.
[18:10] <dr_willis> Sach:  not much.
[18:10] <dr_willis> ;)
[18:10] <sabel> ok...so..im getting this error when i try to install wine
[18:10] <sabel> sabel@Sabel:~$ apt-get install wine1.4 E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[18:10] <dr_willis> Sach:  sudo apt-get update    just Updates the list of packages to know what updates exist..  you actually Install them via 'sudo apt-get upgrade'
[18:11] <dr_willis> sabel:  you run ONE package manager tool at a time.
[18:11] <dr_willis> sabel:  and you need 'sudo' befor that command
[18:11] <zelozelos> sabel, log out n back in, dont save the session
[18:11] <Sach> dr_willis: so I should run 'sudo apt-get upgrade' frequently?
[18:11] <wtfnotacceptable> Sach, no don't update or upgrade frequency
[18:12] <zelozelos> or srry, sudo what dr said, sudo
[18:12] <wtfnotacceptable> Sach, because it can kill your whole system
[18:12] <Virunga> Hi guys, i'd like to find every file without extension, could you help me, please? This is what i did find . -name '.*\.[^/]+$' -o # ... do something but it didn't work
[18:12] <wtfnotacceptable> Sach, because the updates and upgrades are not tested properly
[18:12] <sabel> ok..so..i ran it again and got this lol..
[18:12] <sabel> sabel@Sabel:~$ apt-get install wine1.4 E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[18:12] <Sach> wtfnotacceptable: so how do I know what and when to update?
[18:12] <wtfnotacceptable> Sach, I
[18:13] <sabel> oops misspaste
[18:13] <sabel> wine1.4 : Depends: wine1.4-amd64 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa3)            Depends: wine1.4-i386 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa3)            Recommends: ttf-droid but it is not installable            Recommends: ttf-mscorefonts-installer but it is not installable            Recommends: ttf-umefont but it is not installable            Recommends: ttf-unfonts-core but it is not installable            Recommends: winbind but it is not go
[18:13] <wtfnotacceptable> Sach, I'd recommend using only LTS if you value your time, and updating only once a week
[18:13] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: you can boot liveCD, that is OS independant. You could even have zero OSes installed and boot live CD
[18:13] <wtfnotacceptable> Sach, Canonical and others think almost daily updates are acceptable, they are not, and they don't test those updates
[18:13] <Sach> wtfnotacceptable: can I assume that all update on LTS are safe?
[18:14] <bazhang> wtfnotacceptable, thats not correct
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: the LTS releases have thorough testing. I suggest you use Precise if you like rock solidness
[18:14] <wtfnotacceptable> Sach, on LTS they are more likely to be safe
[18:14] <bazhang> wtfnotacceptable, please dont spread misinformation
[18:14] <wtfnotacceptable> Sach, I've never had one go wrong on LTS
[18:14] <wtfnotacceptable> Sach, but I just had one go catastrophically wrong on 12.10
[18:14] <wtfnotacceptable> Sach, so I'd recommend LTS for stability
[18:14] <wtfnotacceptable> at least
[18:15] <wtfnotacceptable> bazhang, tell that misinformation to my machine that won't boot
[18:15] <qw[russiaNoName]> help me please install install_flash_player_11_linux_i386.tar.gz
[18:15] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: thats because the testing in LTYS is a lot more, its made to be more solid
[18:15] <bazhang> wtfnotacceptable, your single instance does not define reality.
[18:16] <wtfnotacceptable> bazhang, my machine has been fine for ages and I haven't installed anything system level, only user level, for ages. It's all open source, no binary drivers. I just installed an Ubuntu update which required a reboot and now it won't boot
[18:16] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: have you tested your RAM using memtest on the liveCD? have yuo tested your HDD using manufacturers tools?
[18:16] <DeltaKilo> note to self: when creating VM, make sure you set said VM's VLAn to the correct one
[18:16] <mindbreaker> in skype, there is a method to login with a ms account .. so i also want to have my msn contacts in skype .. in skype for windows, it works, but not on ubuntu .. is there a method to get all my msn contacts, too?
[18:16] <bazhang> qw[russiaNoName], 10.10 is end of life. please upgrade to a supported system
[18:16] <sabel> ..I tried to install wine 1.5 but it says it has unmet dependancies..how do i get the dependancie?
[18:16] <DeltaKilo> derp.
[18:16] <qw[russiaNoName]> bazhang: now upgrade
[18:16] <bazhang> qw[russiaNoName], to what version
[18:17] <DeltaKilo> even though that doesn't solve anything
[18:17] <qw[russiaNoName]> i dont have
[18:17] <bazhang> qw[russiaNoName], you said you are now upgrading; to what version
[18:17] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, I won't rule out a HDD error, but the only think that's changed on the machine in over two weeks is the system update I installed two minutes before it asked me to reboot and it didn't reboot
[18:17] <qw[russiaNoName]> in konsole i am write sudo apt-get dist upgrade
[18:18] <a5m0> are these drivers different than the xorg-edgers? http://intellinuxgraphics.org/ I'm looking for the best drivers so i can do some better gaming :/
[18:18] <Virunga> i'd like to find every file without extension, could you help me, please? This is what i did $> find . -name '.*\.[^/]+$' -o -type f ... # ... do something but it didn't work
[18:18] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, that's why I haven't filed a bug report yet either, I am trying to make sure it's Ubuntu and not my HDD, but all the evidence is pointing at Ubuntu at the moment
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: its worth exploring
[18:18] <bazhang> qw[russiaNoName], thats not how to do it. please read the link I gave you carefully
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: grab the ultimate boot cd, they have drive testers from the main HDD manufacturers
[18:19] <Slart> Virunga: can you define what you mean by "without extension" ? does it have to be 3 characters after a dot? I use blabla.shader   for shader code.. would .shader be an extension?
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> Virunga: i'd ask in #bash
[18:20] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, well I am at grub, I just have to re-learn the whole of grub (fun!)
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: i gave a link how to chroot from live CD and reinstate grub that way
[18:20] <Pici> Virunga: -name does file globbing, not regex. Use -regex instead.
[18:21] <pomeisl> historia est magistra vitae
[18:21] <pomeisl> !hu
[18:21] <Virunga> Pici: i'll do it, thanks
[18:21] <DeltaKilo> blah
[18:21] <Virunga> Slart: without extension i mean it isn't divided in two parts, with the right part without dots, by a dot.
[18:21] <Virunga> ActionParsnip: maybe 'll do it, thanks.
[18:22] <Slart> Virunga: hmm.. give me a minute to think about this.. I'll get back to you
[18:22] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, I've already reinstalled grub in a similar way from another link, I am now able to boot into a grub command line now but I have to figure out what to do next
[18:22] <Virunga> Slart: ok.
[18:22] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, given the other partition is encrypted (last time I make that mistake)
[18:22] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, but even if it wasn't it's not clear what to do next
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: yeah encrypted is all kinds of headache imho
[18:23] <levi> hi all
[18:23] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, I'd rather have not had to reboot and kill my machine
[18:23] <zee> Hello, I am experiencing slight issues with the Firefox version bundled with ubuntu
[18:23] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, I'd rather they tested their updates on at least a subset of machines
[18:23] <bazhang> zee such as what
[18:23] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: they do
[18:24] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, can't be too many, this is all intel all open source, it's not like it needs anything special (works perfectly out of the box from a usb install)
[18:24] <zee> Well, I'm on this site (bad-dragon.com) trying to purchase products of theirs
[18:24] <zee> but I am experiencing issues adding products to cart
[18:24] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, so if it doesn't require anything custom and it's now broken from an update, I say, bad update
[18:24] <zee> yet this works fine on my computer running windows vista and firefox nightly
[18:24] <sabel> i just installed ubuntu. is there any updates or anything like that i should do?
[18:25] <Slart> Virunga: it seems that anything containing a dot would match that definition of "extension", except if the dot is first or last... so this might work  find ./ -type f -regex .[!\.]*.
[18:25] <wtfnotacceptable> sabel, if it's 12.04 install the updates, but a recent update from 12.10 just killed my machine so I wouldn't recommend them at the moment
[18:25] <zee> I'd rather not type my credit card information on the computer that runs vista, as it is so terribly insecure. Can anyone help me with these issues?
[18:25] <wtfnotacceptable> sabel, if it's working as you want it to work, don't bother just now, do it in a few days
[18:26] <Slart> Virunga: I'm not sure that's the answer you're looking for but it's an answer to what you asked for.. =/
[18:26] <sabel> it is working for the most part i just am having some serious trouble installing Wine..
[18:27] <wtfnotacceptable> sabel, updates are unlikely to help with wine, it's just hard to configure as it is, I am not sure why it's the case but wine has forever been a total disaster in terms of default install
[18:27] <zee> can anyone here help me?
[18:27] <wtfnotacceptable> sabel, don't worry though, steam is coming soon
[18:27] <a5m0> are these better/different than using the xorg-edgers ppa? http://intellinuxgraphics.org/2012Q4.html
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: you are the only person in a long time taht has reported this that I have heard of and I help in here literally on a daily basis as well as on launchpad
[18:27] <sabel> right..but..unfortunatly i need wine for most of my games anyway. for one specifically League of LEgends
[18:28] <Night_Elf> Hi all. What is a good software for recording the screen? Something similar to 'fraps' in winWorld ?
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> a5m0: edgers is not for the casual users, it is extremely experimental
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> Night_Elf: kazam or recordmydesktop
[18:28] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, I still haven't ruled out the HDD, but it was directly after installing an update. I am having trouble blaming the hdd at the moment (and grub reinstalled fine onto the non-encrypted bit)
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: maybe a grub update didn't quite complete and caused an issue.
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: I'd also test RAM
[18:29] <Virunga> Slart: no it don't. I wan't a regex that marches for example /path.to.some/thing but not /path/to/something.else or /path.to/so.thing
[18:29] <kvte> hey, could someone please help me with a question?
[18:29] <Virunga> *doesn't
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> kvte: ask away
[18:29] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, as in, browsing with 20 tabs, music, terminals, etc on a machine that hasn't rebooted in a week. update dialogue appears, install, requests reboot, reboot, doesn't boot
[18:29] <kvte> I'm trying to browse motherless.com and for some reason it's telling me that i don't have adobe installed
[18:30] <kvte> flash player works fine on youtube and stuff, it's just motherless thats not working
[18:30] <kvte> do you know what the problem could be?
[18:30] <Slart> Virunga: ahh.. while I go back and try you can see if this works for you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8509187
[18:30] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, is there a website that lists the updates to 12.10 in chronological order? maybe we can see what was updated
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> kvte: have you tried other browsers?
[18:30] <tmmunq> ....how is that ubuntu related?
[18:31] <bhavesh> is there something faster than gparted?
[18:31] <xDesu> kvte, you are shameless. I like you.
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> wtfnotacceptable: if you mount your internal partition and navigate to var/log you can read dpkg.log and see what waas updated
[18:31] <SuperNull> wtf. what is the point of IdleOne ?
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> SuperNull: how do you mean?
[18:32] <wtfnotacceptable> ActionParsnip, k going to try to get the main partition mounted, encrypted though so it might take a while to figure it out. I will be back in a while. I expect to waste three hours on this and just reinstall in the end.
[18:32] <a5m0> ActionParsnip, i realize it's experimental but i was trying to find out if the other drivers were better or if they were the same, it seems like there are no propietary drivers for intel 4000 graphics?
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> a5m0: there aren't. intel themselves make the intel drivers for linux. they also contribute lots to the kernel development too
[18:33] <Virunga> Slart: found it find . -regextype posix-extended -regex '^.*?/[^.]+$'
[18:33] <dr_willis> i belive intel may outsource (or has in the past) some of their linux drivers. ;) they had some legal issues with that a few years back. :P Hopefully they learned to do them all in house now.
[18:33] <yilmaz> jrib, can I simply reset all locale related settings?
[18:33] <Slart> Virunga: nice =)
[18:34] <ClientAlive> what do they call the bar on the left side of gnome 3 that has launchers in it? I've been trying to google how to get rid of it but not sure I'm using the right search words.
[18:34] <yilmaz> jrib, dpkg-reconfigure locales?
[18:34] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  the activies panel/favorites list?
[18:34] <Virunga> Slart: thanks for your time.
[18:34] <Slart> Virunga: you're welcome
[18:34] <tmmunq> i dont recall gnome3 having a bar on the left. maybe you mean unity?
[18:34] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  i doubt if theres a simple tweak for it in gnome-shell ;)
[18:35] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  Unity has the left side launcher panel. Its not removeable. but can be set to auto-hide
[18:35] <cbk> hi all
[18:36] <cbk> have some problems saving GdkColor object to desktopcouch dictionary
[18:36] <cbk> i've used quickly to generate ubuntu-app
[18:36] <cbk> any suggestion?
[18:36] <jiffe98> anyone know why when I use perl's Net::SNMP I'm getting 'perl: warning: Setting locale failed.' in the reply?
[18:36] <jiffe98> my locale is sert
[18:36] <jiffe98> set
[18:37] <cbk> AttributeError: 'Document' object has no attribute 'read'
[18:37] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: I've been searching for a shell extension for that. I got a shell extension called axe menu that I like a lot more but I just have to get rid of that stinkin' bar now.  :(
[18:37] <g_> hi, i have a question/comment on the recent update of ubuntu...
[18:37] <micah__> can someone pleeease help me set up wifi
[18:37] <dr_willis> ClientAlive:  i really dont use gnome-shell, i perfer unity.
[18:37] <bazhang> !wifi | micah__
[18:37] <dr_willis> micah__:  details of whats not working will help us help you
[18:37] <cbk> miacah__ what's big deal?
[18:38] <zee> hi I discovered
[18:38] <micah__> im trying to setup wifi on my old powerbook g4 I had to install ubuntu 9.04 power pc cause it was the only version that would work
[18:38] <zee> an easter egg
[18:38] <zee> in ubuntu
[18:38] <zee> when you run
[18:38] <FloodBot1> zee: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:38] <micah__> and I cant find a way to connect to wireless
[18:38] <ClientAlive> dr_willis: I see
[18:38] <pjotter> Hello everyone. Does anybody know of a recent problem concerning flash and Xubuntu? Most of the flashplayers (e.g. youtube) have suddenly become slow and buggy.
[18:39] <cbk> micah__ find out ya card vendor (lspci | grep Wire)
[18:39] <micah__> how do i find out my card vendor?
[18:39] <yilmaz> jrib, anyways thank for trying
[18:40] <yilmaz> bye all
[18:40] <cbk> pjotter, what arch version of xubuntu are you using?
[18:40] <dr_willis> pjotter:  flash on linux has always been buggy..  its been a top 10 problem in this channel for.. well.. ever.
[18:41] <pjotter> :)
[18:41] <pjotter> I am using 12.04
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> pjotter: could install chrome, it has it's own flash plugin
[18:41] <cbk> dr_willis, i've noticed 32-bit sys has bit better performance the 64bit ones...or i'm wrong o.O
[18:41] <dr_willis> or use the various flash-replacer plugins to watch the videos in vlc.
[18:42] <pjotter> I am trying that right now...
[18:42] <micah__> anyone know how to set up wifi for ubuntu on a laptop?
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> cbk: depends on the task
[18:42] <dr_willis> cbk:  i never use 32bit.. so no idea.  ive no issues with flash on my current machine - and its 64bit
[18:42] <a5m0> ActionParsnip, haha i gave him that same advice in #xubuntu about installing chrome
[18:42] <tmmunq> bugs and poor performance in flash? lol, you dont say
[18:42] <dr_willis> micah__:  for my laptop i just click the wifi icon at the top right.. and connect...
[18:42] <cbk> anyone developing with quickly?
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> a5m0: its all I use, no adobe flash in sight :)
[18:43] <micah__> it wont scan for wireless networks and wont connect when i put mine in manually
[18:43] <a5m0> yep, does chromium have it too?
[18:43] <micah__> when i do it just says wireless disconnected
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> micah__: what wifi chip?
[18:43] <micah__> idk its in an old power book g4 mac
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> a5m0: no, its a proprietary blob added by google. its one of the differences
[18:44] <elstud> micah what do you get when you click on arrows in upper right  hand corner
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> a5m0: you can link the plugin into chromium if you use it though :)
[18:44] <trism> cbk: you might try #ubuntu-app-devel
[18:44] <pjotter> Chrome did the trick. The flash problem lies with firefox, I think.
[18:44] <cbk> trism,  tnx
[18:44] <dr_willis> these days you can get decent USB-wifi dongles on amazon for $18 that work out of the box in ubuntu. ;)   a must have  for my PC toolbox.
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> micah__: run:   sudo lshw -C network    what is output?
[18:44] <micah__> I dont see an arrow in the right hand corner @elstud
[18:45] <micah__> one set actionparsnip
[18:45] <micah__> sec*
[18:45] <Bustacap> I'm having trouble getting a hard drive to be detected :/
[18:45] <micah__> ActionParsnip: it says network 0 and 1 disables
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> Bustacap: does it show in BIOS?
[18:45] <micah__> and ethernet stuff
[18:45] <ActionParsnip> micah__: what is the product line  for the wifi?
[18:45] <elstud> what distro are you using
[18:46] <micah__> wireless IEEE 80211bg
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> micah__: is taht all it says?
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> micah__: not a broadcom or anything like that
[18:46] <s5fs> I'm running 12.04, but I don't have an /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf file. Where would my wifi config file be located?
[18:47] <CQN> anyone here familiar with mozc on xubuntu?
[18:48] <bazhang> CQN, whats the real question
[18:48] <CQN> when i convert text from kana to kanji, it's rendering some kanji using hanzi/hanja fonts
[18:48] <ActionParsnip> micah__: or run:  lspci    it should name a chip there
[18:48] <hsnmck> Hello. I have a file that uses Steganography to hide a message in a text by adding extra whitespaces at the end of the lines. Here is the  original file http://classics.mit.edu/Homer/iliad.mb.txt and here is the modified file http://lacalsrv6.epfl.ch/iliad.txt . I can see the
[18:49] <hsnmck> :b2
[18:49] <bazhang> ibus-mozc  <---- did you mean that CQN
[18:49] <CQN> the only place it doesn't happen are japanese websites, probably due to encoding
[18:49] <CQN> bazhang: yeah
[18:49] <CQN> bazhang: http://i.imgur.com/ajqz5.png
[18:50] <sabel> i am having the most difficult time installing wine..i keep getting hung up on dependancies anyone know how to work around or fix this?
[18:50] <CQN> notice how 神's left radical is rendered differently based on whether i'm on google.com or google.co.jp
[18:50] <bazhang> CQN, thats a firefox conflict with ibus
[18:50] <gordonjcp> sabel: how are you installing it?
[18:50] <CQN> bazhang: i'm also getting the incorrect one (google.com) in other software, like leafpad
[18:50] <sabel> through the software center
[18:51] <CQN> and in the terminal
[18:51] <gordonjcp> sabel: pastebin the exact error you're getting
[18:51] <sabel> how do i message specifically you like you are to me?
[18:52] <sabel> This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.
[18:52] <sabel> is the error
[18:52] <bazhang> sabel, type the first two or three letters, then hit <tab> key
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> sabel: type a bit of the nick and hit TAB to autocomplete it. The name will highlight for who you address
[18:52] <sabel> gordonjcp: This error could be caused by required additional software packages which are missing or not installable. Furthermore there could be a conflict between software packages which are not allowed to be installed at the same time.
[18:52] <sabel> gordonjcp:
[18:52] <sabel> gordonjcp: wine1.4: PreDepends: dpkg (>= <IP_ADDRESS>~) but <IP_ADDRESS>ubuntu7 is to be installed          Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14) but 2.15-0ubuntu10.2 is to be installed          Depends: wine1.4-amd64 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa3) but 1.4.1-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa3 is to be installed          Depends: wine1.4-i386 (= 1.4.1-0ubuntu1~precise1~ppa3) but it is a virtual package
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> sabel: http://techhelplist.com/index.php/tech-tutorials/43-linux-adventures/86-ubuntu-1204-and-percona-toolkit-dependencies-error
[18:54] <bazhang> sabel, you have a PPA there
[18:54] <sabel> bazhang: i'm not sure what you mean
[18:54] <bazhang> sabel, an outside software source that You added
[18:55] <sabel> bazhang: i still don't quite get it...im very new. All i did was use the software manager and attempt to install wine.
[18:56] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[18:59] <duanedes1gn> scp command to transfer from VPS to local box?
[18:59] <Eagleman> What do you suggest for making backups ( synchronising specific files and folders ONE way  Ubuntu>external disk/samba share ) ?
[19:01] <prashant_123456> facing ubuntu bug top and bottom panel dont disapper when viewing fullscreen video (ubuntu classic, not using compiz )
[19:02] <Eagleman> What do you suggest for making backups ( synchronising specific files and folders ONE way  Ubuntu>external disk/samba share ) ?
[19:02] <MestreLion> can someone help me troubleshoot HDMI sound output via discrete ATI video card using catalyst? lspci | grep Audio shows both the onboard and the video card sound devices, but aplay -l shows only the onboard one. Any directions?
[19:03] <MestreLion> can someone help me troubleshoot HDMI sound output via discrete ATI video card using catalyst? lspci | grep Audio shows both the onboard and the video card sound devices, but aplay -l shows only the onboard one. Any directions?
[19:03] <bazhang> MestreLion, no need to repeat so quickly
[19:04] <MestreLion> sorry bazhang , I noticed we were on netsplit, so I wasnt sure if my lines were sent
[19:04] <pjotr> hi... I am a windows user that wants to install ubuntu 12.04... I am in the middle of the process now, and I am using the alternate installer, using recommended way to make bootable usb, install boots up, I select language, keyboard, but then it fails at "cannot mount cdrom", how come?
[19:04] <benth2> hi i was wondering how running Zeitgiest helps me
[19:04] <prashant_123456> MestreLion, any help ?
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> benth2: gets you to the most used apps faster
[19:04] <benth2> ActionParsnip: how so?
[19:05] <prashant_123456>  ActionParsnip any idea of my bug
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> benth2: you click dash, there they are
[19:05] <pjotr> I thought that using the usb should not require cdrom, but I guess this might be some internals how the usb installer works?
[19:05] <benth2> oh okay. well i don't use unity so i guess i'll remove zeitgeist
[19:06] <MestreLion> pjotr: do you need the alternate installer for any particular reason? usually the normal installer handles usb just fine
[19:06] <prashant_123456> facing ubuntu bug top and bottom panel dont disapper when viewing fullscreen video (ubuntu classic, not using compiz )
[19:06] <pjotr> MestreLion: I need encryption, and on 12.04 that is the only way...
[19:06] <chung-chyu> how to install nvidia GT610 drivers for ubuntu 10.04 ?
[19:07] <Eagleman> !10.04
[19:07] <OerHeks> prashant_123456, full screen shows no panel, that is no bug.
[19:07] <MestreLion> pjotr: for *full hd* encryption, yes... but you can encrypt just your home folder, which is for most cases just enough. besides, full hdd encryption will prevent you from using windows
[19:07] <benth2> i don't want ubuntu-geoip running but i want to keep my datetime indicator. is that possible?
[19:08] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, on viewing fullscreen videos top and bottom panels always shows
[19:08] <pjotr> MestreLion: I need full disk encryption, no other options in my work, otherwise my client would not allow me to work for them :)
[19:08] <trism> benth2: install geoclue-manual and then remove geoclue-ubuntu-geoip
[19:08] <pjotr> MestreLion: and I want to throw away Windows...
[19:09] <OerHeks> prashant_123456, no ti doesn't in full screen. try maximize screen, then you would have panels.
[19:09] <pjotr> just assume alternate image on usb is only possible way, because it is :) I have no cdrom, and only usb boot available...
[19:09] <MestreLion> pjotr: have tou tried using an actual cd? maybe alternate installer can't handle usb (wild guess here)
[19:09] <benth2> trism: thank you
[19:09] <Eagleman> What do you suggest for making Incremental backups with compression ( synchronising specific files and folders ONE way  Ubuntu>external disk/samba share ) ?
[19:09] <pjotr> MestreLion: I do not have a cdrom :(
[19:10] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, in simple terms cant view fullscreen youtube videos
[19:10] <pjotr> I tried 10.04 alternate ones before in life, and that was supporting usb...
[19:10] <prashant_123456>  OerHeks top and bottom panels dont disapper they are alwasy there
[19:10] <pjotr> but I must be able to make a hack, meaning mount the usb as /cdrom, no?
[19:10] <MestreLion> I never used alternate, so I can't help. maybe google for any issues regarding 12.04's alternate and usb?
[19:11] <pjotr> googled around, can only find posts regarding old ubuntus (7ish)...
[19:11] <pjotr> someone here who managed to install Ubuntu 12.04 from alternate image with a usb stick?
[19:11] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, any idea
[19:12] <OerHeks> prashant_123456, oh, dont disappear, try F11 = full screen ?
[19:12] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, yes i have tried that also its a bug
[19:12] <OerHeks> IdleOne, capital Q
[19:13] <fakixlix> HOlaaaa alguien habla español??
[19:14] <Eagleman> !es
[19:14] <fakixlix> Gracias
[19:14] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, bug Bug #977438
[19:14] <Eagleman> What do you suggest for making Incremental backups with compression ( synchronising specific files and folders ONE way  Ubuntu>external disk/samba share ) ?
[19:18] <JuJuBee> Im having trouble upgrading a computer to 12.10 in regards to network cards.  I have 3 cards but 12.10 only configures 2 of them.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2084735
[19:18] <JuJuBee> Can someone take a look and offer advice?
[19:18] <pjotr> byebye...
[19:18] <superbbb> hi
[19:19] <superbbb> i've a problem with installation of lubuntu
[19:19] <Eagleman> !lubuntu
[19:19] <gordonjcp> !ask | superbbb
[19:20] <MonkeyDust> superbbb  let's hear it
[19:21] <superbbb> i've a acer 3634wlmi, with no hd
[19:21] <simplew> i have installed plymouth-theme-ubuntu-logo and runned 'sudo update-alternatives --config default.plymouth' and changed to use ubuntu boot theme, but when rebooting it did not appeared with ubuntu theme, any help?
[19:22] <gordonjcp> superbbb: no hd would cause you problems right enough
[19:22] <bazhang> what version of ubuntu simplew
[19:22] <superbbb> lubuntu 12.10
[19:22] <OerHeks> simplew, did you perform "sudo update-initramfs -u " after that ?
[19:22] <OerHeks> !plymouth
[19:23] <MonkeyDust> superbbb  what's the problem exactly
[19:23] <simplew> OerHeks: ok
[19:24] <superbbb> i want to install lubu with usb, in acer 3634wlmi with no hd, in the setup page, when i click install the screen become black
[19:24] <bazhang> superbbb, from usb to what?
[19:24] <prashant_123456> bug #977438  but i dont use compiz , solutions please and i love ubuntu and dont want to switch to another distro please anyone can solve my problem
[19:25] <superbbb> i use 2 usb
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> superbbb  a persistent install on usb?
[19:25] <bazhang> superbbb, why not just make the first one persistent?
[19:25] <superbbb> MonkeyDust i want install it on usb
[19:25] <superbbb> sorry for my english
[19:25] <MestreLion> guys, regarding my HDMI audio issue, I've found this: sudo lshw -C multimedia gives *-multimedia UNCLAIMED . Any way to "claim" it? I can see the device in lspci | grep Audio, but not in aplay -l. Directions please?
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> superbbb  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[19:26] <superbbb> one moment i have to lunch
[19:26] <kevo> Can someone help me please?
[19:26] <superbbb> MonkeyDust i 've problem with sys video driver
[19:26] <bazhang> kevo, with what?
[19:27] <kevo> Having a ton of trouble with Nvidia GTX 670 on Ubuntu 12.10
[19:27] <prashant_123456> bazhang, can u solve my problem
[19:27] <kevo> bazhang, for some reason my drivers are not working properly. I never had this issue before. I'm getting a very tiny resolution and cannot resolve.
[19:28] <OerHeks> prashant_123456, did you try the fix as mentioned in #21 ?
[19:28] <bazhang> kevo, what drivers do you have installed, what resolution do you currently have, what resolution do you wish to see
[19:28] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, please tell me where to see for solution
[19:28] <bazhang> prashant_123456, in your bug report
[19:29] <kevo> Ok I have 310.19 drivers installed, I have a 1024x768 resolution, and I want to see 1920x1080
[19:29] <prashant_123456>  bazhang i dont have bug report
[19:29] <OerHeks> prashant_123456, see your url, answer #21, enable precise-proposed repo
[19:29] <bazhang> prashant_123456, you gave us a bug report
[19:29] <pecc> yo, my sound disappears at random, connect/reconnect dock helps but only until for a few minutes if even that (audio jack is in dock)
[19:29] <prashant_123456> bazhang, ok but i see
[19:29] <prashant_123456> bazhang, dont know what to do please tell me
[19:30] <bazhang> prashant_123456, OerHeks just told you
[19:30] <kevo> I've used LinuxMint 14 perfectly for my drivers and they worked exactly as they should, Ubuntu 12.10 gives me this problem all the time. I did fresh installs of OS numerous times.
[19:30] <prashant_123456> bazhang, not getting any point of you sorry for that
 prashant_123456, see your url, answer #21, enable precise-proposed repo
[19:31] <bazhang> prashant_123456, see above
[19:31] <prashant_123456>  bazhang  ok see above ok
[19:31] <ClientAlive> I installed ubuntu server because I didn't want to deal with all the default stuff that cones with ubuntu desktop. Now I want a better (high performance) kernel.  What is the easiest way to get a different kernel and what am I facing in regard to updates if I do?
[19:31] <kevo> bazhang, any ideas?
[19:31] <OpenSorce> Been dreading this, new kernel time. Now I get to fight with my Nvidia drivers again :-P
[19:31] <OerHeks> prashant_123456, open software centre, edit , sources, enable precise-proposed, close it, and run updates
[19:32] <bazhang> ClientAlive, the real time kernel? what do you mean by "high performance", for what exactly
[19:32] <kevo> OpenSorce, I think that might be my problem is kernel. Is that why my Nvidia drivers are not working properly?
[19:32] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, ok
[19:32] <OpenSorce> kevo, not sure. What is it doing/not doing?
[19:33] <Guest83861> hey please help me
[19:33] <kevo> My monitor is saying it's a laptop screen and outputting low resolutions and not the correct ones.
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> Guest83861  start with a question
[19:33] <OpenSorce> kevo, that's odd. Are they the drivers from the repos or did you manually install it?
[19:33] <rosevp> hello - can someone help me connect remotely to xdm
[19:34] <rosevp> have ubuntu configured but getting xdm errors
[19:34] <kevo> OpenSorce, It's just not working at all. Like the GPU is detected but it's displaying my monitor as a laptop and not my regular 23" 1080P monitor. Can't change any of my resolutions. I get errors during startup of OS.
[19:34] <ClientAlive> bazhang: I seem to have some sort of I/O problem. My mouse pointer freezes (and this is a newer desktop with plenty of ram - 16 gig and a fast processor). I thought I would try getting a different kernel to see if it fixes the issue. I want to start adding things like compiz and am worried about the problem getting worse.
[19:34] <softcoder> hi, using ubu 12.10 nvidia properitary driver (but also seen on another system using latest ubu 12.04 using amd cataylst)... screen resolution randonly changes and i have to go to video card settings to re-adjust
[19:34] <OpenSorce> kevo, take a look at my last question
[19:34] <softcoder> is this a known issue?
[19:35] <softcoder> for the 12.10 system this happens multiple times every day
[19:35] <kevo> OpenSorce, drivers from repos. Did simple apt-get install nvidia-current.
[19:35] <ClientAlive> bazhang: *problem 'would' get worse (wtih compiz installed).
[19:35] <kevo> 310.19 drivers
[19:35] <kevo> I'm running HDMI to monitor.
[19:35] <softcoder> can anyone help?
[19:35] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, ok updating
[19:35] <rosevp> getting the following errors Starting X server on <IP_ADDRESS>:0
[19:35] <deadmund> ClientAlive: mouse = wireless bluetooth mouse?
[19:35] <rosevp> Fri Nov 30 09:58:10 2012 xdm error (pid 12421): Hung in XOpenDisplay(<IP_ADDRESS>:0), aborting
[19:35] <rosevp> Fri Nov 30 09:58:10 2012 xdm error (pid 12421): server open failed for <IP_ADDRESS>:0, giving up
[19:36] <rosevp> Hung in XOpenDisplay(<IP_ADDRESS>:0), aborting
[19:36] <rosevp> Fri Nov 30 09:58:10 2012 xdm error (pid 12421): server open failed for <IP_ADDRESS>:0, giving up
[19:36] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, ok done with update
[19:36] <ClientAlive> bazhang: I don't think it's bluetooth but it is wireless
[19:36] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, now what can i check my video again ?
[19:36] <kevo> OpenSorce, I'm on 310.19 drivers. I was running LinuxMint 14 yesterday and installed the drivers the same way and worked perfectly both video and audio, but with Ubuntu 12.10 I get this problem.
[19:36] <OpenSorce> kevo, cool. I had random issues with that driver and went with ones from Nvidia's website. There are some guys in #nvidia who can be pretty helpful with that
[19:37] <kevo> OpenSorce, thanks bro will check them out.
[19:37] <OpenSorce> kevo no problem, I'm sure you'll get it straightened out
[19:37] <prashant_123456> bazhang, done with update
[19:38] <OerHeks> prashant_123456, yes, if the fix works, you can leave a message @ that bugreport
[19:38] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, let me check please and then i will tell u
[19:38] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, bazhang thanks
[19:39] <pecc> yo, my sound disappears at random, connect/reconnect dock helps but only until for a few minutes if even that (audio jack is in dock)
[19:40] <pecc> running Quantal
[19:40] <prashant_123456> OerHeks, bazhang still having the problem
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> pecc  does it also happen without the dock?
[19:41] <pecc> MonkeyDust, I haven't tried... will be back soon (cannot keep connection up without dock)
[19:42] <OpenSorce> Does anyone else find Unity ugly and a bit sluggish?
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> OpenSorce  wrong channel for that question
[19:42] <pndemc> OpenSorce, not the place.
[19:43] <bazhang> OpenSorce, did you wish to troubleshoot? or just poll
[19:43] <OpenSorce> lollko, sorry
[19:43] <ClientAlive> bazhang: stupidest thing on the planet! <- there was some stuff dried on the bottom of the little pads on the bottom of the mouse. I think it was coffee (with cream and sugar of course - ha ha). I don't know if that was the issue or not but I'm gonna go ahead and install compiz and see if the problem comes up again later. If it does I'll deal with it then.
[19:43] <ClientAlive> ths :)
[19:43] <OpenSorce> What is the channel? #ubuntu-offtopic?
[19:44] <ClientAlive> thx
[19:44] <FloodBot1> ClientAlive: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:44] <superbbb> hi MonkeyDustin the guide there is: Several video drivers are not functioning with some legacy chip-sets
[19:44] <grimeton> how can one shutdown 12.10 ?
[19:44] <superbbb> my video driver is sys 661mx
[19:45] <grimeton> do i have to pray for it to be shutdown or will the power button start working again ?
[19:45] <ClientAlive> hay fooldbot (thought you be a computer program) SOMETIMES PEOPLE HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY DAG NABIT!
[19:45] <TheLordOfTime> ClientAlive, please move this out of #ubuntu, thanks.
[19:45] <theflash397>  !!
[19:45] <theflash397> hello evry body
[19:45] <deadmund> grimeton: sudo shutdown -h now ??
[19:45] <ClientAlive> TheLordOfTime: move what?
[19:46] <grimeton> deadmund: i'm talking about the shutdown option in the upper right
[19:46] <ClientAlive> asking about a kernel? or asking about i/o issues.
[19:46] <rosevp> can someone help me with my xdm issue?
[19:46] <rosevp> is this the correct channel to ask xdm questions?
[19:46] <TheLordOfTime> ClientAlive, your yelling at the bot.
[19:46] <ClientAlive> on an ubuntu 12.04 system
[19:46] <deadmund> grimeton: Oh, IDK :P
[19:46] <theflash397> what are you doing ?
[19:46] <ClientAlive> calm down and let people be people for once
[19:47] <psychopathic> Did you know what the sun of god is doing. He travels in a box out a square and through a tree.
[19:47] <TheLordOfTime> !offtopic | psychopathic
[19:48] <TheLordOfTime> psychopathic, do you an actual support question?
[19:49] <yhusha> working on editing an iso and theres some issues heres the pastebin its relatively short   http://pastebin.com/xjdYvhgZ
[19:49] <yhusha> maybe somebody might see whats going on.. with it
[19:50] <deadmund> yhusha: You're just making typos and not using correct paths.
[19:50] <yhusha> hmm
[19:50] <deadmund> yhusha: As your a beginner, always use full path names.  Also, use the tab key to autocomplete what you're typing.
[19:50] <superbbb> Login screen just flickers on screen then screen goes blank before login screen flickers back on and of for ever more.
[19:51] <superbbb> what can i do?
[19:51] <superbbb> i've a sys 661mmx
[19:51] <superbbb> it's a acer 3634wlmi
[19:51] <ddilinger> random question ... is it possible to downgrade an ubuntu box from 12.10 to 12.04LTS?  or does it have to be re-installed
[19:52] <bekks> ddilinger: You have to reinstall.
[19:52] <ddilinger> k, thats what i figured
[19:53] <OerHeks> superbbb, you have problem with SiS videodriver?
[19:53] <theflash397> what are you donig ?
[19:53] <yhusha> yes the tab done that a few times there was a typo that was fixed where were the others besides the double i in cd: /home/yhusha/livecdtmp
[19:54] <danfg> i have a question regarding the find command, in the -exec part, it substitutes {} for names like '../path//file', how do i get rid of the double slash, or how do i get only the filename, not the path?
[19:54]  * malkauns wonders if he can go a day without a unity crash
[19:55] <OpenSorce> danfg, have you tried man find?
[19:55] <danfg> OpenSorce: i have, do you know of any commands in there i should use?
[19:55] <superbbb> yes OerHeks
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> danfg  the first slash is to indicate that the second is a character, not a symbol -- it's called a regular expression
[19:56] <ddilinger> danfg: well, look at the end of the description for -exec
[19:56] <ddilinger> danfg: and you will have your answer
[19:57] <ddilinger> danfg: quoting the man page " you should use the -execdir option instead", and for -execdir:  ike  -exec,  but  the specified command is run from the subdirectory containing the matched file
[19:57] <OerHeks> superbbb, i think i have bad news, SiS is not well supported in linux.
[19:57] <ddilinger> danfg: end result, it will only be the filename
[19:58] <danfg> ddilinger: hmm ok, it's a workaround
[19:58] <yhusha> mkdir ~/livecdtmp this command failed to create the specified directory
[19:59] <yhusha> or does directory in this scenario mean file
[19:59] <OerHeks> superbbb try the vesa driver, when booting the usb, at the point install/try live, choose with F6 vesa ( if i recall correct)
[19:59] <bazhang> yhusha, on a live cd?
[20:00] <kevo> Okay maybe someone can help me with my driver problem. When I run nvidia-settings in terminal, I get a error saying "You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run ' nvidia-xconfig' as root), and restart the X server."
[20:00] <yhusha> this is being done on a hdd install
[20:00] <yhusha> aready installed
[20:01] <yhusha> operating on an iso from ubuntu.com
[20:01] <yhusha> the system this is being done on is also the same as the iso file
[20:01] <zykotick9> kevo: run "sudo nvidia-xconfig" which will generate a xorg.conf for you.  then restart Xorg.
[20:02] <kevo> zykotic9, how do I restart Xorg?
[20:03] <yhusha> testing this tutorial but it seems theres some errs >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[20:03] <kevo> zykotic9, command?
[20:03] <santiago> Hello everyone
[20:03] <zykotick9> kevo: "sudo service lightdm restart" myabe?  not sure.
[20:03] <Citillara> Hello, anyone knows how can I download the public certificate of a remote server in bash ?
[20:04] <newbiehelp> hi
[20:04] <newbiehelp> i an newbie i need help
[20:05] <newbiehelp> hi i need help for sound issue
[20:06] <yhusha> and for a command like this, sudo mount -o loop ubuntu-9.04-desktop-i386.iso mnt  does the iso have to be in a specific place noticed it wont find it in downloads  by it self but it finds it in /home
[20:06] <newbiehelp> please talk too me if your good with linux
[20:07] <newbiehelp> hello
[20:07] <newbiehelp> anyone there?
[20:07] <yhusha> that happens some times
[20:08] <yhusha> just type more details about the audio issue
[20:08] <rosevp> is the correct place to ask a xdm question?
[20:08] <newbiehelp> ok i will type the detail
[20:08] <zykotick9> rosevp: why on earth are you usind xdm?  is it 1994 again?
[20:08] <newbiehelp> i have pulse audio when i go too configuration there is no sound card
[20:09] <newbiehelp> and when i open gmome alsa there is nothing exect a grey screen
[20:09] <yhusha> check proprietory drivers list
[20:09] <newbiehelp> and with all that sound dont work
[20:09] <newbiehelp> there is no driver listed
[20:09] <yhusha> fresh installl
[20:09] <newbiehelp> yup i have done it
[20:09] <yhusha> done updates yet?
[20:09] <newbiehelp> yup
[20:09] <lalla> identify lalla nadeesh
[20:10] <newbiehelp> how i do that?
[20:10] <yhusha> terminal
[20:10] <newbiehelp> ok
[20:10] <lalla> identify nadeesh lalla
[20:10] <newbiehelp> identify nadeesh lalla
[20:10] <newbiehelp> dentify: unable to open image `nadeesh':  @ error/blob.c/OpenBlob/2489. identify: unable to open image `lalla':  @ error/blob.c/OpenBlob/2489.
[20:10] <yhusha> sudo apt-get update
[20:10] <ajp> i'm trying to write a bash script to resize PDFs after they are scanned (using ghost script) and after resizing i lose the last %25 of the file. It's just white halfway down the page. Can anyone suggest something I can do?
[20:11] <zykotick9> lalla: fail x2.  change your password ;)  you need a / at the beginning, and shouldn't do that in a channel.
[20:11] <bobweaver> !latex | ajp  ?
[20:12] <newbiehelp> done
[20:12] <newbiehelp> update done
[20:13] <newbiehelp> yhusha
[20:13] <yhusha> check the audio
[20:13] <yhusha> if nothing https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[20:13] <ajp> bobweaver: i know what latex is, I don't need it. I'm just trying to resize PDFs using ghostscript from the command line so it can be bash scripted
[20:14] <bobweaver> ajp,  can we see script ?
[20:14] <ajp> bobweaver: sure pm me
[20:14] <rosevp> getting the following from xdm - xdm error Hung in XOpenDisplay(<IP_ADDRESS>:0), aborting
[20:14] <bobweaver>  /msg ajp,  no pastebin ?
[20:14] <bobweaver> er
[20:15] <newbiehelp> no sound card found
[20:15] <yhusha> check the tutorial it should fix it
[20:16] <yhusha> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[20:16] <newbiehelp> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-generic
[20:16] <bobweaver> newbiehelp,  you have tried the command              aplay -l   ?
[20:16] <newbiehelp> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-generic
[20:16] <newbiehelp> i tryed a play
[20:17] <newbiehelp> sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-generic Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package linux-restricted-modules-3.0.0-12-generic E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-restricted-modules-3.0.0-12-generic'
[20:18] <newbiehelp> any help please
[20:18] <newbiehelp> this is the code i get from the commandsudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r` linux-generic
[20:18] <lalla> exit
[20:18] <bobweaver> newbiehelp,  what is output of uname -r ?
[20:18] <ajp> my PDF gs script: http://pastebin.com/aWQ2WB9v
[20:18] <ajp> need helps
[20:18] <newbiehelp> what you mean bob?
[20:18] <bobweaver> newbiehelp,  type it into the terminal        uname -r
[20:19] <bekks> newbiehelp: "uname -r" is a command, and it will produce some output.
[20:19] <newbiehelp> 3.0.0-12-generic
[20:19] <robottinosino> I can't get texlive-base to install in any way: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1400458/
[20:20] <BlackScreen> Hi. My colleague has tried installing Ubuntu Server, Ubuntu Secure Remix, Ubuntu Alternate, and Ubuntu Desktop. Ubuntu Desktop and Ubuntu Secure Remix black screen during install. Ubuntu server/alternate complete the install but when the computer boots and shift is held, it says 'loading grub' then goes to black screen.
[20:20] <BlackScreen> does anybody know how we would proceed?
[20:20] <genii-around> newbiehelp: Use linux-image-extra      instead of linux-restricted-modules           and you may need ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:20] <bekks> !nomodeset | BlackScreen
[20:20] <robottinosino> It appears quite  a few people are having the same problem as me (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1400458/) do you think that's a fair claim?
[20:20] <newbiehelp> genii what you mean?
[20:20] <newbiehelp> genni be clear i am not good
[20:21] <BlackScreen> ubottu: I already said that we cannot boot into grub even if shift is held
[20:21] <BlackScreen> oh
[20:21] <BlackScreen> heh
[20:22] <BlackScreen> wrong person
[20:22] <BlackScreen> bekks: see above
[20:22] <bobweaver> newbiehelp,  what happens when you type this into the terminal "software-properties-gtk"      then click on other tab is all the independent and partners clicked ?
[20:23] <McManiaC> hey, how can you hide avatars in empathy/get a more compact view of your contact list?
[20:23] <genii-around> newbiehelp: eg: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install linux-image-extra-$(uname -r) ubuntu-restricted-extras
[20:23] <rosevp> can't connect to xdm remotely
[20:23] <BlackScreen> so how am i supposed to use nomodeset if it doesnt even go into grub?
[20:23] <ugo> ggggggg
[20:23] <newbiehelp> software-properties-gtk
[20:24] <bekks> rosevp: Thats intended, since you have to enable that security relevant hole before being able to access it remotely.
[20:24] <bobweaver> newbiehelp,  look at this screen shot   http://imagebin.org/237720
[20:24] <newbiehelp> i am looking
[20:24] <robottinosino> Maybe I am lacking experience on this channel… but what would be a good strategy to interest some experts and recruit some help? Just ask and wait?
[20:25] <newbiehelp> genni i am doing the command
[20:25] <bekks> robottinosino: Yes.
[20:25] <robottinosino> bekks: Alright.
[20:25] <newbiehelp> genii
[20:25] <newbiehelp> E: Unable to locate package linux-image-extra-3.0.0-12-generic E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-image-extra-3.0.0-12-generic'
[20:25] <McManiaC> how can you hide avatars in empathy/get a more compact view of your contact list?
[20:26] <newbiehelp> bob what do i do when im on the right tab
[20:26] <kostkon> McManiaC, view → compact size?
[20:26] <BlackScreen> bekks: did you see my question?
[20:27] <kostkon> McManiaC, at least in 10.04
[20:27] <McManiaC> kostkon: where is this "view" menu?
[20:27] <bobweaver> robotfuel_,  what are deps of texlive-luatex   ? apt-cache show texlive-luatex   then look at depends line and make sure that they are installed there is some dep in there that is messing it up
[20:27] <kostkon> McManiaC, in your panel
[20:27] <newbiehelp> bob weaver ?
[20:27] <bobweaver> newbiehelp,  make sure that they are checked like screen shot I sent you
[20:27] <dr_willis> rosevp:  remotely how exactly? xdmcp is turned off by default for security reasons
[20:27] <kostkon> McManiaC, where the global menu is
[20:27] <pecc> MonkeyDust, I'm back. Without the dock Spotify ran faultlessly for ~40 min straight (it pauses on its own when the sound fails) -- what now?
[20:28] <bekks> BlackScreen: Where did you install grub to, while installing? /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 ?
[20:28] <yhusha> any idea why this is happening: sudo mount -o looP ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso mnt
[20:28] <yhusha> [sudo] password for yhusha:
[20:28] <yhusha> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0,
[20:28] <yhusha>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[20:28] <yhusha>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[20:28] <yhusha>        dmesg | tail  or so
[20:28] <FloodBot1> yhusha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:28] <McManiaC> kostkon: i only got a "empathy" menu there
[20:28] <genii-around> newbiehelp: You need to enable additional repositories then in the Software Center
[20:28] <cousin_luigi> Greetings.
[20:28] <kostkon> McManiaC, hmm
[20:29] <newbiehelp> genii ok what i do,? and BOB i dont have the same patern many link miss
[20:29] <cousin_luigi> Is there a place other than /etc/environment to declare global variables?
[20:29] <yhusha> any idea why this is happening http://pastebin.com/cUNhwJLD
[20:30] <robottinosino> As I patiently wait.. is there a better forum to ask about apt-get install problems? Maybe an aptitude channel? For Mac Ports, there is a channel just for packaging… I am only asking because I think my problem might be common to many users..
[20:30] <bobweaver> cousin_luigi,  can you be more detailed ?
[20:30] <kostkon> McManiaC, do you mean the tray icon? are you using unity or somwthing else
[20:30] <bobweaver> !motu | robottinosino
[20:30] <McManiaC> kostkon: standard unity, just installed ubuntu earlier
[20:31] <kostkon> McManiaC, 12.10?
[20:31] <McManiaC> kostkon: yup
[20:31] <Aelingil> In Ubuntu 12.04 (LTS) Is there any way when you click on [Dash] you Default to the "Installed Application" instead of the "Home" Lens?
[20:31] <newbiehelp> no sound card on pulse audio i have been searching for about 4 hours since today too fix it
[20:31] <bobweaver> Aelingil,  press Super+a
[20:31] <yhusha> and then theres this: /livecdtmp$ sudo mount -o loop ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-i386.iso mnt
[20:31] <yhusha> mount: warning: mnt seems to be mounted read-only.
[20:31] <cousin_luigi> bobweaver: I need to define an environment variable and for now I've set it in /etc/environment, but it doesn't look like a particularly clean solution. Could it be done otherwise?
[20:31] <newbiehelp> so i need help im really tired of looking alone
[20:31] <xangua> Aelingil: Super+a
[20:31] <bekks> yhusha: Thats intended for a CD image.
[20:32] <kostkon> McManiaC, hmm ok, i think empathy in 12.10 comes with much less available options.
[20:32] <xangua> Aelingil: if you keep super pressed you can see all unity shorcuts
[20:32] <yhusha> ye thats the idea
[20:32] <bobweaver> cousin_luigi,  say I wanted to set up my email and what not for bzr I would add that to bashrc
[20:32] <yhusha> to extract it this is nessarry
[20:32] <ClientAlive> what up bobweaver?
[20:32] <newbiehelp> -whois genni-around what are the url i need to add?
[20:32] <yhusha> necessary
[20:33] <bobweaver> Hey there brother ClientAlive  how you doing ?
[20:33] <Eagleman> Will this work with include and exclude files with rsync/rsnapshot  http://pastebin.com/JiA5pT8B  ?
[20:33] <cousin_luigi> bobweaver: But then it would be available only for applications started from bash, wouldn't it?
[20:33] <McManiaC> kostkon: there is no "empathy-full" package or something, is there?
[20:33] <bobweaver> +
[20:33] <newbiehelp> genni-around -whois  what are the url i need too add
[20:33] <ClientAlive> bobweaver: not too bad
[20:33] <yhusha> will it not work with a .iso download
[20:33] <bobweaver> cousin_luigi, what is .profile used for ?
[20:33] <newbiehelp> first how do i whisper someone?
[20:33] <kostkon> McManiaC, don't think there is
[20:33] <cousin_luigi> bobweaver: Your guess is as good as mine.
[20:34] <bobweaver> cousin_luigi,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[20:34] <Aelingil> xangua, bobweaver, thank you.. i didnt even think to look for a keyboard shortcut yet.. I was already into Dconf and looking to "reorganize" the order of Dash..
[20:34] <newbiehelp> how do i whisper someone ?
[20:34] <visof> hello
[20:34] <visof> hi
[20:34] <bobweaver> Aelingil,  press and hold super to see menu options
[20:34] <bekks> newbiehelp: By asking before, wether he/she wants that, and then using "/msg nickname hello"
[20:34] <visof> howto build rpm package in ubuntu ?
[20:34] <Aelingil> I can switch App/doc/music but not home.. :)
[20:34] <bobweaver> Aelingil,  which you can chang btw ;)
[20:35] <cousin_luigi> bobweaver: So /etc/environment it is.
[20:35] <bobweaver> visof,  talk to redhat or fedora or who ever
[20:35] <McManiaC> kostkon: that sucks :/
[20:35] <cousin_luigi> bbl
[20:35] <visof> bobweaver: what is the tool i should install in ubuntu to do that ?
[20:36] <bobweaver> there is not *good * tool to do that
[20:36] <bobweaver> but
[20:36] <b0ot> How do I get the GD/GD2 extension?
[20:36] <bobweaver> !info alen | visof
[20:36] <BlackScreen> bekks: my colleague is saying it defaults to MBR, and /dev/sda
[20:36] <newbiehelp> use /msg [genii-around] please help me geniie
[20:37] <newbiehelp> geniie-around /msg newbiehelp what do i have to do?
[20:38] <bobweaver> !pm | newbiehelp
[20:38] <bekks> newbiehelp: "/msg someothernicknamethanyours hello"
[20:38] <bobweaver> !info alien | visof I would NEVER EVER use this
[20:38] <newbiehelp>  !pm | bobweaver so pleaxs bob
[20:38] <bazhang> newbiehelp, just ask the channel
[20:39] <newbiehelp> ok i have no sound card detected by pulse audio
[20:39] <bobweaver> sorry newbiehelp  but I have a million things going On I can not devote time just to you.  that is not fair to everyone else
[20:39] <newbiehelp> i understand take your time
[20:40] <bazhang> newbiehelp, using what exactly to check that. tell us the exact method you are checking that
[20:40] <bobweaver> newbiehelp,  did you check of the software sources that I sent you a picture of ?>
[20:40] <newbiehelp> ok i click on sound panel ok?, then i got no device listed
[20:40] <genii-around> newbiehelp: Apologies, but I have not enough time away from work right now to properly assist
[20:40] <BlackScreen> so basically it should be installing grub to MBR and /dev/sda
[20:40] <newbiehelp> bobwearver yes it does
[20:40] <BlackScreen> but somehow i think it's not installing properly
[20:41] <bazhang> newbiehelp, you checked in pavucontrol?
[20:41] <bobweaver> newbiehelp,  and you have then updated after words ?
[20:41] <bobweaver> good idea bazhang
[20:41] <newbiehelp> nop i will update
[20:41] <bazhang> newbiehelp, what version of UB UNTU is this
[20:41] <newbiehelp> i checked pavu
[20:42] <newbiehelp> linux mint
[20:42] <bazhang> newbiehelp, thats not supported here
[20:42] <newbiehelp> but my uncle told me this site work better for help
[20:42] <newbiehelp> because the command are same
[20:42] <bazhang> he told you wrong
[20:42] <bazhang> !mintsupport | newbiehelp
[20:42] <ajp> anyone here versed in ghostscript's pdfwrite functionality?
[20:42] <newbiehelp>  !mintsupport
[20:43] <newbiehelp> so i have no sound device and alsa gnome dont work
[20:43] <bazhang> newbiehelp, join that server. we wont support MINT here
[20:43] <newbiehelp> where can i joint?
[20:43] <TheLordOfTime> newbiehelp, MINT support is offtopic here.  Their support is on irc.spotchat.org in #linuxmint-help
[20:43] <newbiehelp> thanks sorry
[20:44] <dr_willis> ask the mint guys why they dont set their disrtos irc clients to default to the mint channel. ;)
[20:44] <bekks> dr_willis: They know why ;)
[20:44] <ajp> anyone here versed in ghostscript's pdfwrite functionality? trying to get this script working properly http://pastebin.com/aWQ2WB9v
[20:45] <bazhang> http://milan.kupcevic.net/ghostscript-ps-pdf/   ajp such as this?
[20:45] <ignarps> If I pay for support from canonical,  does using custom ppa's void that support?
[20:45] <dr_willis> Im not really sure what actual paid suppport does. ;)
[20:45] <bobweaver> ignarps,  ask you Ubuntu advantage number
[20:46] <bazhang> ignarps, good question; contact them and ask?
[20:46] <bobweaver> your Ubuntu Advantage person
[20:46] <kostkon> ignarps, +1 for asking them
[20:46] <ignarps> I don't pay for support.  Was curious if anyone had asked this
[20:46] <Renard> Hello! Grub question: when the system is halted improperly, the set GRUB timeout is disabled and GRUB waits for an user input. Is it possible to force the timeout to be always on?
[20:46] <dr_willis> Renard:  you mean have it wait forever? thats doable i recall
[20:46] <ajp> bazhang: yeah but when my PDF comes out the back end it's missing pars as though it didn't load %25 of the page
[20:47] <ajp> parts*
[20:47] <bobweaver> ignarps,  I know that some that have Ubuntu Advantage def have there own repo
[20:47] <Renard> No, never wait. Still boot.
[20:47] <bazhang> ajp, so that page has some of the commands you are using?
[20:47] <superbbb> hey guys can i Downgraded xorg on lubuntu 12.10 on the usb?
[20:47] <ajp> bazhang: yeah
[20:47] <dr_willis> superbbb:  why do you need to downgrade?
[20:47] <bazhang> superbbb, why would you do that? is this a live usb or a persistent install
[20:48] <Renard> Turns out my USB keyboard doesn't work at the GRUB stage during boot, so I can't input anything here. Have to wait for the OS. I don't want to solve this issue, just go around it (easier for the end user)
[20:48] <pecc> my audio dies randomly when connected to dock, disconnect/reconnect helps every time but only until the next time, audio worked 40 min perfectly when disconnected from dock, after reconnecting failed in 10 min
[20:48] <ajp> bazhang: particularly -dPDFSETTINGS=/screen
[20:48] <ajp> bazhang: http://pastebin.com/aWQ2WB9v
[20:49] <dr_willis> Renard:  ive see that issue fixed by using the legacy usb support option in the bios   it may be called differnt things on some machines
[20:49] <g0rs> anybody configured ipv6 by connecting to a ipv6 address in xp?
[20:49] <bobweaver> g0rs,  what is xp  ?
[20:49] <bazhang> g0rs, xp? in #ubuntu ?
[20:49] <dr_willis> XPbuntu ;)
[20:50] <Renard> dr_willis, thanks, but I'd rather have the user not have any input at that stage anyway :p
[20:50] <g0rs> bobweaver: I'm trying to setup a ipv6 tunnel over ipv4 using a tunnel broker
[20:50] <bobweaver> lol dr_willis
[20:50] <ConGiun> :D
[20:50] <ajp> Renard: you can change the timeout period for grub in the config file
[20:50] <dr_willis> Renard:  you can hide the grub menu so they dont even see it
[20:50] <bazhang> g0rs, ##windows for xp
[20:50] <Renard> I just want the computer to resume booting on its default GRUB option even if it hadn't been properly halted
[20:50] <ConGiun> #ubuntu
[20:50] <dr_willis> ive never noticed grub acting differntly if the pc crashed
[20:51] <g0rs> bazhang: thanks
[20:51] <Renard> It waits for the user input
[20:51] <dr_willis> waits for what input exactly?
[20:51] <Renard> Select a line using the keyboard (so you can select a recovery mode or another kernel, if you wanted to)
[20:53] <dr_willis> cant say ive ever seen it do that.
[20:53] <dr_willis> id bet theres a grub setting to have it not do it. ;)
[20:53] <dr_willis> grub has moer settings then you can shake an OS at..
[20:54] <ajp> in grub config you can change the timeout to 1 second
[20:54] <Renard> Yeah but no
[20:55] <genii-around> Renard: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Timed_Display        edit the /etc/default/grub file then do: sudo update-grub
[20:55] <Renard> Already got a timer
[20:57] <BlackScreen> Hello. My colleague has installed Ubuntu Alternate choosing to put grub on /dev/sda, but upon boot he gets a black screen after holding shift to see 'loading grub'
[20:57] <genii-around> Renard: Near that section of documentation is also the values within that file to hide the grub menu, and other settings.
[20:58] <Renard> But this doesn't change the "failure" behavior
[21:00] <genii-around> Renard: Obviously you didn't look at the documentation in the section just under the section I gave entitled "Last Boot Failed or Boot into Recovery Mode"
[21:00] <penk> hi folks, i need to create a bootable USB stick, but i'm sitting on a mac.  The bootable USB stick is NOT for booting a mac, it'll be for booting a thinkpad laptop.  The docs i found ont he wiki create a .dmg file, and dd that to the USB stick (from the ISO).  since the target machine is not a mac, how do i create a bootable image on the usb stick on the mac?
[21:00] <Renard> Ooh. Shiny. My bad :)
[21:01] <Galvatron> Is there any trick to get rid of the titlebars with close buttuns in the "Scale" mode, seemingly hard-coded into Unity and only slowing the whole thing?
[21:01] <bazhang> penk, from the mac command line?
[21:01] <penk> yea
[21:01] <penk> or, i could do it elsewher.e  i'm not proud :)
[21:02] <bazhang> penk, is that a bash shell? or something different
[21:02] <penk> bash
[21:02] <zizzusu> ciao
[21:02] <Renard> This seems to do the trick indeed. Thanks, genii-around !
[21:03] <ndegruchy> penk: the procedure is the same
[21:03] <ndegruchy> I've created a bunch of Ubuntu bootable USB drives on my mac
[21:03] <penk> except the hditool create a 'dmg' file.  the docs say it should create an img
[21:03] <penk> should i just dd the .dmg file to the device?
[21:03] <genii-around> Renard: You're welcome :-)
[21:03] <penk> adn that'll boot on on a wintel generic laptop?
[21:04] <ndegruchy> yeah, the hditool will often times add a img.dmg file
[21:04] <penk> -rw-r--r--@ 1 dshevett  22323  789884928 Nov 30 15:26 ubuntu-12.10-desktop-i386.iso
[21:04] <penk> -rw-r--r--  1 dshevett  22323  789884928 Nov 30 15:57 ubuntu.iso.dmg
[21:04] <penk> okay.  thanks
[21:04] <rosevp> having issues connecting to xdm vir win7 using Xming
[21:04] <rosevp> getting : Hung in XOpenDisplay(<IP_ADDRESS>:0), aborting
[21:04] <penk> ndegruchy: do you use /dev/rdisk or /dev/disk ?
[21:04] <penk> there's notes that the rdisk may be faster
[21:05] <ndegruchy> penk: the installer is so small I don't really notice much of a difference
[21:05] <penk> k
[21:05] <ndegruchy> ~700mb transfers fairly fast over usb, but YMMV
[21:05] <penk> trying it now.
[21:06] <ndegruchy> penk: these are the steps I used: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx
[21:06] <penk> yep
[21:06] <penk> i just got hung up because it jumps to "this is how you boot a mac to run ubuntu'.  thanks :)
[21:06] <ndegruchy> I just stopped before 10
[21:06] <penk> :)
[21:06] <ndegruchy> I actually used that process to build a Kubuntu disk for my desktop at home
[21:07] <ndegruchy> and it seems like the only reliable process for me recently, the Ubuntu Startup Disc creator and the Windows utility never build bootable disks on my machines :\
[21:07] <BlackScreen> Hello. My colleague has installed Ubuntu Alternate choosing to put grub on /dev/sda, but upon boot he gets a black screen after holding shift to see 'loading grub'
[21:07] <pecc> my audio dies randomly when connected to dock, disconnect/reconnect helps every time but only until the next time, audio worked 40 min perfectly when disconnected from dock, after reconnecting failed in 10 min -- anyone have any ideas?
[21:10] <TeraQuibbler> torrents or magnets are faster? i am downloading iso
[21:12] <Guest85346> hello !
[21:12] <Guest85346> i'm i connected to chat now ??
[21:13] <Guest85346> some one can tell Me
[21:13] <Guest85346> suis en ligne ou pas ?
[21:13] <pbxbrian> Guest85346: yes!
[21:13] <Guest85346> salut
[21:13] <Guest85346> pbxbrian: tahkyou
[21:13] <Guest85346> i was thinking that my irc app was in troubble
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[21:14] <rosevp> can someone help me with connecting to box remotely
[21:15] <matanc_> Hello folks
[21:15] <matanc_> quick question
[21:15] <matanc_> anyone here using vim?
[21:16] <bazhang> matanc_, whats the real question
[21:16] <matanc_> The question is
[21:16] <tre> matanc_: post your Q and just wait if anyone will answer it
[21:16] <matanc_> Why are the movement key prests h,j,k,l
[21:16] <bazhang> matanc_, on ONE Line please
[21:17] <rosevp> question ?
[21:17] <rosevp> xdm
[21:17] <rosevp> help
[21:17] <tre> Does anyone know how to change theme in Lubuntu via terminal (not using lxappearance)?
[21:17] <matanc_> I mean, if you're supposed to put your hand normally on jkl; keys, why shift it one to the left?
[21:19] <trism> matanc_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arrow_keys#HJKL_keys and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:KB_Terminal_ADM3A.svg it seems
[21:19] <nardev> is there any peace of software that i can use to listen /dev/ttyACM0 as serial under 9600bps, i need it for arduino app and/or communication with cisco router
[21:21] <pecc> was I silenced? please reply if you can see this
[21:22] <dr_willis> what if we say we cant see it. ;-)
[21:22] <dr_willis> we see you.
[21:23] <pecc> thanks dr_willis, I'll just have to wait for someone then who knows about audio stuff
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> pecc  try #ubuntustudio
[21:24] <Sna4x8> I got an update for linux-image-3.2.0-34 today, and the update is hanging on: Generating grub.cfg ...
[21:24] <pecc> MonkeyDust thank you I will
[21:24] <Sna4x8> Anyone having that issue?
[21:24] <dr_willis> i rarely mess with audio issues
[21:24] <yhusha> does a squashf file ever load in gedit
[21:24] <MonkeyDust> Sna4x8  3.2... that's ubuntu 12.04 ?
[21:24] <ajp> Sna4x8: CLI or GUI?
[21:24] <Sna4x8> Yep.
[21:25] <dr_willis> yhusha: that wouldent make sense
[21:25] <yhusha> to edit it
[21:25] <Sna4x8> ajp: Tried the GUI first when it popped up, then restarted after a few hours and ran apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:25] <Sna4x8> It's been there for a few hours now.
[21:25] <bekks> yhusha: It doesnt make sense to edit a squash fs file.
[21:25] <dr_willis> you dont edit it with a text efitor
[21:25] <dr_willis> in any csde
[21:26] <yhusha> well it was through terminal
[21:26] <ajp> Sna4x8: look for a popup window asking about which grub version you want
[21:26] <dr_willis> yhusha: that wouldent make sense either
[21:26] <bekks> yhusha: Even in a terminal, you do not edit a squash fs file with a text editor.
[21:26] <Sna4x8> ajp: popup from the CLI?
[21:26] <yhusha> gksu gedit /casper/chroot/usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper
[21:27] <ajp> Sna4x8: oh i thought GUI, it should ask you about versioning at this point in the grub update me thinks
[21:27] <robottinosino> Is this a bug? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1400458/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/1400609/
[21:27] <yhusha> does thhat make since
[21:27] <yhusha> sence
[21:27] <yhusha> sense
[21:27] <yhusha> *
[21:27] <dmitchell> is the right channel to ask what kernel parameters are implied by the recovery parameter? my system only boots if I resume from recovery.
[21:27] <dr_willis> i thought squashfs was read only...
[21:27] <yhusha> hold on
[21:27] <Sna4x8> ajp: It's  stuck at "found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin".
[21:27] <yhusha> wrong line
[21:27] <bekks> yhusha: Thats editing a script, not a squash fs file.
[21:28] <yhusha> never mind
[21:28] <yhusha> got it
[21:28] <ajp> Sna4x8: what happens if you press enter?
[21:28] <Sna4x8> Just newlines.
[21:28] <ajp> Sna4x8: I'm not sure, sorry man
[21:29] <Sna4x8> Okay, thanks for the help anyway!
[21:31] <crow> hello!
[21:31] <dmitchell> can anyone help me with this? it looks like I get a soft lock on normal boot, but if I resume from recovery mode it's OK
[21:32] <dr_willis>  tried  the text mode boot yet?
[21:32] <dr_willis> !text
[21:33] <dmitchell> hi. yes, that's the normal boot. I'm using ubuntu server.
[21:33] <dr_willis> where does it lock up at?
[21:34] <dr_willis> im not aware of recoverymode disabling anything other then x starting
[21:36] <dmitchell> dr_willis: hard to say, unfortunately. it prints a lengthy stack trace that fills the screen. I'll reboot and give you my best guess brb
[21:36] <veryhappy> hi guys, where do i have to go to get hints about networking in ubuntu/linux?
[21:36] <veryhappy> is there anything like #network or #networking?
[21:36] <sabel> I am having some serious trouble with my wireless dongle..i have been working at it for almost 5 hours no to no avail. It is a Netgear WNDA4100
[21:36] <dr_willis> hints?
[21:37] <dr_willis> theres dozens of books and sites on networking
[21:37] <veryhappy> dr_willis: tips
[21:37] <veryhappy> dr_willis i have special questions
[21:38] <dr_willis> yes veryhappy .. care to be more specific. ;-)
[21:38] <arosen> I was wondering if anyone know off hand if ubuntu opensources the spec files that they use to create packages? And if so where I could find them?
[21:38] <veryhappy> dr_willis: for sure i have an own brain to know that there must be books :P
[21:38] <veryhappy> about networking
[21:38] <panic_> Hi. I'm running 12.04 LTS and am currently running the Update Manager.  Howeve,r it appears to have stalled at "Configuring linux-image-3.2.0-34-generic."  When I click details it says it's "run-parts: execuring /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-udpate-grub 3.2.0-34-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-34-generic"  I'm not sure what to do.  I don't want to mess up my kernel.  It's been stuck on this for long enough for me to get concerend, install &
[21:39] <veryhappy> dr_willis: is there any possiblity to change advanced wifi options? i want to change options like cts-to-self to rts/cts and so on.
[21:39] <rosevp> is magic-cookie needed w/ Xming/xdm
[21:39] <yhusha> cant get  nautilus-gksu
[21:39] <sabel> I am having some serious trouble with my wireless dongle..i have been working at it for almost 5 hours no to no avail. It is a Netgear WNDA4100
[21:39] <yhusha> E: Unable to locate package nautilus-gksu
[21:40] <sabel> where can i get the drivers for it...? how can i make it work in ubuntu?
[21:40] <Fried_Chicken> I am having some problems with icaclient.  I found a solution online here: http://forums.citrix.com/thread.jspa?threadID=306353&tstart=0  but I can't get it to run dpkg --configure icaclient now
[21:40] <panic_> yhusha: What are you trying to do?  Run nautilus as root?
[21:40] <dr_willis> sabel: what chipset is it using?
[21:40] <Fried_Chicken> I am a new user and am probably doing something super dumb
[21:40] <ClientAlive> I want to do some stuff with compiz but the learning curve seems prohibitively expensive. Does one have to make a career out of learning compiz to enjoy a couple effects here and there?
[21:40] <sabel> dr_willis: one moment let me find out
[21:40] <Fried_Chicken> how do I get the dpkg to run?  I tried the command and sudo
[21:41] <yhusha> yes
[21:41] <blubee> guys ive been googling for a while now and can't find a good answer. Is it possible to have a wine program save files back to a directory local to my ubuntu home directory? If so how can I do that?
[21:41] <dmitchell> ok the last thing I saw was something about 'running /scripts/init-bottom'
[21:41] <gordonjcp> Fried_Chicken: pastebin the command you use and the error you get
[21:41] <gordonjcp> !pastebin | Fried_Chicken
[21:41] <dmitchell> it soft looks soon after
[21:41] <sabel> dr_willis: it uses RAlink chipset
[21:41] <panic_> yhusha: I usually run: gksudo nautilus
[21:42] <guntbert_> dmitchell: what do the logs say? (var/log/syslog)
[21:42] <dr_willis> running nautilus as root can be a bad idea..
[21:42] <dr_willis> bbl.. lunch time
[21:42] <rosevp> can someone direct to a channel for connecting Xwin/xdm
[21:42] <panic_> dr_willis: It can be for sure.  I'm still nto sure what to do aobut this Update Manager being frozen.
[21:43] <sabel> Can anyone help me? im trying to use a Netgear WNDA4100 wireless USB adapter in ubuntu. it uses RAlink chipset. ive been workin on this for nearly 6 hours now and would greatly appreciate some help.
[21:43] <dmitchell> guntbert_: well I'm not sure how to check the logs. the system doesn't seem to finish booting, it just goes into a loop printing a stack trace every few seconds
[21:43] <Fried_Chicken> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1400658/
[21:43] <yhusha> how to unmount a directory
[21:44] <watussi_> hi
[21:44] <dmitchell> if I reboot via recovery->resume, will there be logs saved from the failed boot?
[21:44] <almoxarife> sabel: look at 'nidiswrapper' for an answer to your problem
[21:45] <guntbert_> dmitchell: now I am a little confused - didn't you say that the system resumes fine from a suspend? how do you get to that state?
[21:45] <sabel> almoxarife: Id like to use that..but there are no stand alone drivers to download...i cant exactly use the disk either. it only comes with an EXE
[21:45] <guntbert_> almoxarife: s/ndis/nidis/
[21:45] <dmitchell> no, what I meant is that I can only boot the system by booting into recovery mode and choosing resume
[21:45] <yhusha> made a directory /mnt/iso/ and mounted it but cant unmount to delete it
[21:46] <almoxarife> sabel: what comes via .exe?
[21:46] <llutz> yhusha: sudo umount /mnt/iso
[21:46] <panic_> Update issue Frozen: I'm running 12.04 LTS and am currently running the Update Manager.  Howeve,r it appears to have stalled at "Configuring linux-image-3.2.0-34-generic."  When I click details it says it's "run-parts: execuring /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-udpate-grub 3.2.0-34-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-34-generic"  I'm not sure what to do.  I don't want to mess up my kernel.  It's been stalled on this step at least 20 minutes or so.
[21:46] <sabel> almoxarife: whatcha mean? its an installer ment to be run on windows..i can start it in wine but it crashes. ive scoured the web for the stand alone driver without an installer and there is none to be found.
[21:47] <kristenbb> hi, I'd like to find all files in a folder (and subfolders) that have read access to everyone, and change it to read and write for me only. Please confirm this is it:          find . -type f -perm 444 -exec chmod 600 '{}' \;
[21:47] <yhusha>  sudo unmount /mnt/iso/
[21:47] <yhusha> sudo: unmount: command not found
[21:47] <panic_> yhusha:  umount
[21:48] <llutz> yhusha: sudo umount /mnt/iso            read again
[21:48] <guntbert_> dmitchell: I see - well boot into recovery and check the logs from there ?
[21:48] <yhusha> haha
[21:48] <rosevp> can someone help with my xming/xdm issue?
[21:49] <dmitchell> I was trying to find out what exactly the "recovery" kernel parameter does. I figure it's disabling some kernel features. if I knew what it disabled, that would be a clue to my problem.
[21:49] <dmitchell> guntbert_: hang on, I'll check
[21:51] <watussi_> I use a screen for monitoring and I search a soft to change webpage every 10 seconds
[21:51] <watussi_> do you have an idea ?
[21:53] <rosevp> xdm help?
[21:53] <buar> people, who can help with driver for printer canon pixma 1800?
[21:54] <BlackScreen> Hello. My colleague has installed Ubuntu Alternate choosing to put grub on /dev/sda, but upon boot he gets a black screen after holding shift to see 'loading grub'
[21:55] <brutal_chaos> so I am trying to install video-ati:i386 and ubuntu seems to be missing packages. Package 'keyboard-configuration:i386' has no installation candidate
[21:55] <brutal_chaos> what am I to do?
[21:59] <bmartin4> brutal_chaos: it's just keyboard-configuration drop the i386 part.
[21:59] <MonkeyDust> !info keyboard-configuration | brutal_chaos
[22:00] <force> hello
[22:01] <Inumedia> I'm running 12.10 server, and can't seem to get eth0 working at all.  Boot waits for 120 seconds for network config and then continues on.  Tried doing ifup eth0 and it fails, can anyone help me fix this issue?  I have it running in a VM (Oracle VirtualBox)
[22:02] <force> Kuwait Ubuntu mirror : ubuntu.qualitynet.net is not working and terminate download session if we downloaded only 23MB
[22:03] <Catbuntu> Hey
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> Inumedia  in the vbox settings, try changing NAT to bridged
[22:03] <Inumedia> Tried
[22:04] <Inumedia> I've tried booting with NAT, Bridged to host eth adapter, bridged to host wifi adapter, and host-only
[22:04] <Inumedia> None work
[22:05] <brutal_chaos> MonkeyDust: http://pastebin.com/3a2nMax1
[22:05] <brutal_chaos> i can't drop the :i386
[22:05] <MonkeyDust> Inumedia  try virtualbox-OSE from the repos
[22:05] <Inumedia> OSE?
[22:06] <MonkeyDust> !info virtualbox-ose > Inumedia
[22:07] <Inumedia> apt-get install virtualbox-ose?
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> Inumedia  it's what I use for both windows and linux guests
[22:07] <brutal_chaos> !info keyboard-configuration:i386
[22:07] <brutal_chaos> !info keyboard-configuration:amd64
[22:07] <brutal_chaos> hmmmm
[22:07] <panic_> Is it spammy if I post my question again?  May I?
[22:07] <Inumedia> How am I to apt-get if I can't get network connectivity? :P
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> brutal_chaos  without :386 or :64
[22:07] <bekks> Inumedia: There is no vbox-ose anymore, since version 4.0
[22:08] <brutal_chaos> MonkeyDust: I can't
[22:08] <brutal_chaos> MonkeyDust:http://pastebin.com/3a2nMax1
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> !info keyboard-configuration | brutal_chaos
[22:08] <brutal_chaos> MonkeyDust:http://pastebin.com/3a2nMax1
[22:08] <Jackyzgood> salut
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> brutal_chaos  try sudo apt-get -f install
[22:09] <guntbert_> panic_: repeating your question every 10-15 minutes is quite ok
[22:09] <Jackyzgood> j'ai un soucis avec un pc portable et des cartes graphiques hybride intel/amd
[22:09] <Inumedia> Would changing the mac address to the adapter cause this?
[22:09] <bekks> !fr | Jackyzgood
[22:09] <MonkeyDust> Inumedia  what bekks says, i installed vbox-ose, both it doesnt say ose in 'about', it's oracle
[22:10] <bekks> Inumedia: Yes.
[22:10] <panic_> Update issue Frozen: I'm running 12.04 LTS and am currently running the Update Manager.  Howeve,r it appears to have stalled at "Configuring linux-image-3.2.0-34-generic."  When I click details it says it's "run-parts: execuring /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-udpate-grub 3.2.0-34-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-34-generic"  I'm not sure what to do.  I don't want to mess up my kernel.  It's been stalled on this step at least 20 minutes or so.
[22:10] <Inumedia> bekks: Do you know the solution off hand? :D
[22:10] <brutal_chaos> MonkeyDust: nope
[22:10] <brutal_chaos> didn't work
[22:11] <gordonjcp> panic_: don't worry too much
[22:11] <bekks> Inumedia: Yes. :D Remove the line with the wrong (the old one) MAC from /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and reboot
[22:11] <gordonjcp> panic_: it won't remove your existing kernel
[22:11] <panic_> gordonjcp:  Should I xkill?  It's been sitting like this for about an hour.
[22:11] <gordonjcp> panic_: does it respond to <ctrl-c>
[22:11] <gordonjcp> ?
[22:11] <Inumedia> I'll test and report back as soon as it finishes booting
[22:12] <panic_> gordonjcp:  No, it doesnt appear to.
[22:12] <Chegy> need some advice regarding wn-370usb wireless card to install on bt5 r3
[22:12] <panic_> gordonjcp:  As a note i'm using the GUI as opposed to apt-get update/upgrade
[22:12] <Inumedia> bekks: Would it be safe to just remove all of the lines?
[22:12] <gordonjcp> panic_: well, kill it, and try doing it from a terminal and see if that gives you more information
[22:12] <panic_> gordonjcp: Ty will do.
[22:13] <buar> people, who can help with driver for printer canon pixma 1800?
[22:13] <Chegy> anyone
[22:13] <bekks> Inumedia: No.
[22:13] <Inumedia> Oh.
[22:13] <Inumedia> Well I did.
[22:13] <Inumedia> And it worked.
[22:13] <Inumedia> :P
[22:13] <FloodBot1> Inumedia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:14] <Inumedia> Bekks: thanks! :D
[22:14] <guntbert_> !please | Chegy
[22:14] <Chegy> who is good here with driver support?
[22:14] <bekks> Inumedia: You're welcome :)
[22:14] <dr_willis> buar:  checked the linux-printing.org and cups.org site to see how well that printer is supported?
[22:15] <ashleyludlow> depends on the driver
[22:15] <bekks> Chegy: Another poll? What can we win in the lottery then? :)
[22:15] <guntbert_> Chegy: be patient please
[22:15] <ashleyludlow> chegy what are you trying to install?
[22:15] <buar> dr_willis? i will try it
[22:17] <ashleyludlow> or..not....
[22:17] <dr_willis> ;)
[22:18] <dsaj> I follow the instruction here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7221757/run-automatically-program-on-startup-under-linux-ubuntu to run a program at startup, however when I run "update-rc.d /etc/init.d/test_code defaults", it outputs "update-rc.d: /etc/init.d//etc/init.d/test_code: file does not exist". What do I type wrong?
[22:18] <ashleyludlow> ?
[22:18] <lupin3> ciao
[22:18] <lupin3> !list
[22:18] <Sna4x8> dsaj: update-rc.d test_code defaults
[22:18] <ashleyludlow> cya l8TR
[22:18] <dr_willis> lupin3:  you list every random channelyou join?
[22:19] <panic_> gordonjcp: After figuring out how to unlock the dpkg(?) I ran update, was insturcted to do dpkg --configure -a, did, and I think it fixed the issue.  I just ran update, and I'm about to do upgrade.  Thank you!
[22:19] <dsaj> Sna4xB: thank you
[22:19] <Sna4x8> update-rc.d will look for files in /etc/init.d
[22:19] <panic_> gordonjcp:  Sweet! Everything is good again! Thank you very very much!
[22:20] <ashleyludlow> ok so im gonna sound like a total noob but wtf is !list ?
[22:20] <panic_> I think i'm going to be doing my updates via the terminal from now on.
[22:20] <dr_willis> ashleyludlow:  warez channels  often use it for a list of files.
[22:21] <dr_willis> ashleyludlow:  and it seems theres a dozen people commingin here daily doing Caio, !listing, then exiting...
[22:21] <micah_> can anyone help me with 9.04 ubuntu wifi?
[22:22] <ashleyludlow> and btw i work in a network admin section of the military and we still us bt4 ......and about 5 months ago we were still useing 3. sometimes the newest shit isnt always the best. its like carsah
[22:22] <ikonia> 9.04 is dead sadly
[22:22] <guntbert_> ashleyludlow: and we thank you for not using (even obfuscated) swearwords in here :)
[22:22] <ashleyludlow> SORRY
[22:22] <micah_> so it wont work at all?
[22:22] <ashleyludlow> that was ment for another chat
[22:22] <ashleyludlow> im still getin sed to irssi
[22:22] <ikonia> yeah right
[22:23] <lindenle_> HI guys, just got a kernel update and the depmod command has been runnign for about 4 hours now without completion at or above 80% of my cpu. Is this a known issue?
[22:23] <Sna4x8> lindenle_: Same here.
[22:23] <ikonia> lindenle_: what module are you trying to load ?
[22:24] <lindenle_> ikonia: run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/dkms 3.2.0-34-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-34-generic
[22:24] <brutal_chaos> does 12.04 support having both video-ati i386 and amd64, aka multilib?
[22:24] <lindenle_> ikonia: seems to be just the kernel package
[22:24] <gordonjcp> panic_: cool, glad to hear it
[22:24] <ikonia> lindenle_: so it's actually the update process that's failing/hanging rather than a depmod for a specific module/boot
[22:25] <lindenle_> ikonia: http://pastie.org/5460298
[22:25] <lindenle_> ikonia: it seems so....
[22:25] <ikonia> lindenle_: depmod completed
[22:25] <ikonia> oops, depmod completed
[22:25] <ikonia> it's not depmod that's handing
[22:25] <ikonia> hanging
[22:26] <lindenle_> well the depmod process is still running if I do ps aux
[22:26] <ikonia> according to that output, it's completed and moved onto updating the init ram fs and then what ever is in the post script
[22:27] <ikonia> lindenle_: do you have any 3rd party modules installed ? nvidia, vbox, vmware etc ?
[22:27] <lindenle_> maybe vbox, let me check
[22:27] <Sna4x8> Hrm, mine's been hunger there for many hours too - I have vbox as well...
[22:28] <lindenle_> yeah I have virtualbox installed
[22:28] <ikonia> maybe worth looking at that
[22:29] <brutal_chaos> does 12.04 support having both video-ati i386 and amd64, aka multilib?
[22:29] <Sna4x8> ikonia: Just rmmod vboxdrv temporarily?
[22:29] <ikonia> Sna4x8: not sure if that's a wise move, but possibly yes
[22:29] <ikonia> brutal_chaos: what are you trying to achieve ?
[22:30] <ikonia> brutal_chaos: your xorg will be 64bit, so it will use 64bit modules
[22:30] <ikonia> your kernel is also 64 bit
[22:30] <ashleyludlow> so i have a question of my own, i just updated my lubuntu install, and i saw it updated tpb (think pad buttons). it used to display a little blue bar across my screen for volume and mute, but its gone now... any ideas what i could do?
[22:30] <lindenle_> Snax48: let me know if that works OK
[22:30] <ikonia> ashleyludlow: log a bug
[22:31] <ikonia> ashleyludlow: if an update has killed it, log a bog
[22:31] <ikonia> bug
[22:31] <Sna4x8> lindenle_: I just killed the update, did an rmmod on vbox*, and did a dpkg --configure -a .... Looks like it's hanging, but I'll give it a bit
[22:31] <redheat> folks, I'm using the new Ubuntu 12.10, and I followed the following on how to install a ATI driver for my HP touchsmart tm-2 intel duo-core laptop, anyhow, it went smoothly, but right after that..I decided to uninstall it..
[22:31] <redheat> so I did..
[22:31] <redheat> http://www.my-guides.net/en/guides/linux/394-how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy-drivers-in-ubuntu-1210
[22:32] <redheat> and that is the page that I'm talking about..
[22:32] <redheat> anyhow...
[22:32] <ikonia> why do people use these guides
[22:32] <ikonia> they are just written by "anyone"
[22:32] <ashleyludlow> no the buttons still work, and i reinstalled the previous version its it not displaying. im quite honestly at a loss of where to start if i did want to log a bug..
[22:32] <redheat> no..this is a really good guide on how to run legacy ati drivers
[22:32] <ikonia> there is a whole wiki of ubuntu specific and approved documentation
[22:32] <ikonia> redheat: it's not good...as you're having problems with it
[22:33] <redheat> I'm havinga problem with it because it doesn't work with hybrid, that is AMD/intel, graphic cards..
[22:33] <ikonia> redheat: right....so it's not a good guide
[22:33] <ikonia> so then you're at fault
[22:33] <ikonia> or you're using it for something it's not meant to be used for
[22:33] <dr_willis> i would think you would want the latest/cutting edge for  a hybrid chipset.
[22:34] <redheat> anyhow when I log back in I get a black screen, but I still hear everything in the background, I even wrote down my username and password blindly, and I could hear the
[22:34] <redheat> yeah
[22:34] <redheat> login sound..what I want right now is to restore my Xserver..that's all..
[22:35] <Sna4x8> lindenle_: Bleh, still hung - I'm going to try to reboot and try again.
[22:35] <redheat> I mean the system is working fine, but the Xserver is just..plain PitchBlack
[22:35] <lindenle_> Snax48: i was just trying to update spotify when this started happening... no tunes, no tunes!
[22:35] <ikonia> redheat: drop it back to vesa
[22:35] <redheat> how?..
[22:35] <redheat> that's the question..
[22:35] <ikonia> redheat: boot into single user mode, change the xorg.conf
[22:36] <lindenle_> man I have too many kernels installed
[22:36] <lindenle_> time to clean up
[22:36] <redheat> ok..that's a little bit above my pedigree, what's a single user mode?..and how do I change the xorg.conf
[22:36] <ikonia> sadly, at that point I'm going to back away and get on with some other things
[22:37] <dr_willis> !single
[22:37] <redheat> wait, I am the only user, I don't
[22:37] <dr_willis> could use text mode also.
[22:37] <dr_willis> single user mode boot straight to a shell. similer to recovery mode.
[22:37] <magma> hi. I have some webserver running on my machine. How can I detect which process is opening port 80?
[22:37] <dr_willis> text mode goes to a shell/login screen. does not run X.
[22:37] <redheat> dr_willis, how to use command line, should I go into recovery mode..
[22:37] <lindenle_> magma: netstat
[22:38] <redheat> dr_willis, I should boot into recovery mode and choose which option
[22:38] <dr_willis> redheat:  you could try hiting alt-ctrl-f1 through f6 and see if those get you to a console
[22:38] <dr_willis> I tend to just use 'text' mode
[22:38] <dr_willis> !text
[22:38] <redheat> while I'm at the login screen?
[22:38] <magma> lindenle_: it does not show any port opened
[22:38] <force> /
[22:38] <redheat> dr_willis should
[22:39] <redheat> I do that while I'm at the login window, or during the startup?..in any case what should I write, the xorg.conf..how do I restore it to vesa
[22:39] <lindenle_> magma: netstat -pa
[22:39] <dr_willis> sometimes the ati drivers ive seen mess up the consoles. in that case, the single/text/recovery mode would let you get logged into a console.
[22:40] <redheat> ok, what should I write?
[22:40] <dr_willis> after the system boots.. alt-crtl-FX to get to consoles.
[22:40] <dr_willis> No idea what needs to go in the xorg.conf
[22:40] <redheat> ok..
[22:40] <jklaz> what about configuring it via live-cd
[22:40] <redheat> how do I do that? jklaz?
[22:41] <redheat> I already have a livecd on my usb stick? and I can do it..
[22:41] <jklaz> boot the live-cd instaed of logging into single user mode
[22:41] <redheat> ok
[22:41] <RickZilla> Ok, I've made up my mind. I'm devoting 40G or so of my laptop to an ubuntu install...some apps just thrive more in that environment.
[22:41] <magma> is this tcp        0      0 *:http                  *:*                     LISTEN
[22:41] <dr_willis> be faster to use singlke user mode. ;) would boot faster
[22:41] <jklaz> then in terminal type sudo nautilus in order to be able to change everything
[22:41] <dr_willis> then he could test in single user mode with 'startx'
[22:42] <redheat> ok, but do you guys have any idea on how to restore to vesa..?
[22:42] <redheat> I just need to know how?
[22:42] <dr_willis> remove the drivers you installed perhaps
[22:42] <Sna4x8> lindenle_: So, I did a /etc/init.d/vboxdrv stop, then a dpkg --configure -a (that hung).  I rebooted, and did /etc/init.d/vboxdrv stop again.
[22:42] <force> how can we fuck qualitynet.net that bad company has bad support for downloading ubuntu mirror?
[22:42] <redheat> I did?
[22:43] <Sna4x8> dpkg was already running in the background.
[22:43] <magma> lindenle_: help me to kill this bastard
[22:43] <dr_willis> redheat:  you said you followd some guide to install the legacy drivers i thoght
[22:43] <redheat> I did dr_willis, I already uninstalled all of them, ..
[22:43] <pecc> good folks of #ubuntu, "cannot submit urb (err = -27)" randomly when dock is connected, can you figure out what's causing this and/or how to fix it?
[22:43] <Sna4x8> And it seems to be updated now according to uname.
[22:43] <jklaz> what resolution do you want?
[22:43] <lindenle_> magma: i am pretty sure netstat must be showing something
[22:43] <redheat> yeah, and there was a purge command that uninstalls the ppa, and along with it the driver..
[22:43] <redheat> http://www.my-guides.net/en/guides/linux/394-how-to-install-amd-catalyst-legacy-drivers-in-ubuntu-1210
[22:43] <gordonjcp> pecc: that's probably going to take a bit more context to solve
[22:43] <redheat> give it a look?
[22:44] <redheat> any?
[22:44] <dr_willis> redheat:  then it should be defaulting back to the xorg radeon drivers, unless xorg.conf is incorrect. You could just rename your xorg.conf to xorg.conf.OLD
[22:44] <force> fuck you guys no one answer to me?
[22:45] <redheat> how to do I do that? forgive me I'm still new at linux..so how do I change from this to that..by the way i'm writing from another copy of linux, mint..
[22:45] <lindenle_> magma: sudo netstat -npa | grep tcp | grep ":80"
[22:45] <jklaz> btw  did you saw http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209?
[22:45] <lindenle_> magma: that should narrow it down
[22:45] <redheat> and it is installed on a partition next to ubuntu, so I can access the harddrive, from here..
[22:45] <dr_willis> redheat:  use the shell and with sudo mv foo bar    move the file to some other name
[22:45] <TaZeR> hi i like ubuntu
[22:45] <SolarisBoy> netstat has --tcp also
[22:46] <TaZeR> im using 12.10 x64
[22:46] <lindenle_> magma: ^ See what solarisboy said
[22:46] <redheat> dr_willis, I can do it from here, from mint, and access the partition ubuntu is installed on, and change the xorg.conf..by the way where is xorg.conf located?
[22:46] <pecc> gordonjcp, I've had audio randomly die whenever my lappy is connected to its docking station (my audio output is in that dock) -- disconnect/reconnect dock instantly revives the sound but it'll die soon after -- I checked syslog and "cannot submit urb (err = -27)" is displayed before by USB disconnect/reconnect messages so I'm guessing it has something to do with the audio trouble
[22:46] <SolarisBoy> sudo lsof -i :80 even
[22:46] <bekks> netstat -tulpen or lsof -i :)
[22:46] <magma> lindenle_: cool. I got ~$ sudo netstat -npa | grep tcp | grep ":80" \\ tcp        0      0 <IP_ADDRESS>:80              <IP_ADDRESS>:*               LISTEN      1461/apache2
[22:46] <dr_willis> redheat:  mount the ubuntu install use the proper path to the ubuntu installs  whatever/etc/X11/xorg.conf file, or use a file manager running as root.
[22:46] <lindenle_> magma: /etc/init.d/apache stop
[22:47] <jklaz> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:47] <magma> lindenle_: how can I remove it?
[22:47] <magma> I already did sudo apt-get autoremove apache2
[22:47] <lindenle_> sudo apt-get remove apache
[22:47] <magma> ok
[22:47] <magma> let's see
[22:47] <dr_willis> redheat:  you dont even need to be doing it from a differnt install. You should be able to boot the ubuntu install. go to its console. and use the command line to move /etc/X11/xorg.conf to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.OLD
[22:47] <gordonjcp> pecc: googling for that exact error message brings up a lot of stuff about problems with usb soundcards
[22:47] <gordonjcp> pecc: but of course you already know that
[22:47] <magma> lindenle_: "Virtual packages like 'apache' can't be removed"
[22:47] <lindenle_> but removing it will not kill the process in memory
[22:48] <bekks> magma: remove apache2 then.
[22:48] <lindenle_> magma: sudo dpkg -l apache | grep 'ii'
[22:48] <magma> lindenle_: but I restarted the system after removing
[22:48] <lindenle_> find out what is installed and then remove it
[22:48] <OerHeks> magma, stop the service first: sudo service apache2 stop . then you are able to remove
[22:48] <lindenle_> magma: why did you restart, this is linux my friend
[22:48] <magma> lindenle_: no output with that command
[22:48] <lindenle_> no need to restart until a kernel update comes along
[22:49] <gordonjcp> pecc: it may be that the sound chip in the docking station isn't well supported
[22:49] <gordonjcp> pecc: a bit of googling suggests that it's something deep and technical in the way that USB communicates
[22:49] <lindenle_> or if you use ksplice you may never have to reboot again
[22:49] <redheat> dr_willis, I just located it on my other partition, but it is telling my I don't have enough permission to do it from this environment..
[22:50] <lindenle_> magma: dpkg -l apache*
[22:50] <lindenle_> magma: if you dont see anything you uninstalled it already
[22:50] <dr_willis> redheat:  that makes sence.. you need to use sudo/root to access/alter the file
[22:50] <pecc> gordonjcp I figured this and am having trouble understanding the discussions I find, they incluse terminology I haven't seen ever  before
[22:50] <gordonjcp> pecc: me too, and I am an audio developer ;-)
[22:50] <jklaz> su
[22:51] <abdostar> Anyone could help me to access a server I just installed over IP address ?
[22:51] <redheat> ok..sorry again, dr_willis, how do I list the devices on my harddisk..I think it was..
[22:51] <redheat> -l
[22:51] <lindenle_> abdostar: ssh <ip_address> ?
[22:51] <pecc> gordonjcp D: I guess... I guess it MIGHT be easier to find a way to connect an audio jack direct to what's left of my motherboard...
[22:51] <magma> lindenle_: "un  apache2               <none>                (no description available)"
[22:51] <abdostar> lindenle_: local IP working, but can use internet IP?
[22:52] <MonkeyDust> abdostar  ssh [user]@[remote IP]
[22:52] <redheat> how to list partitions by the way, dr_willis
[22:52] <lindenle_> magma: you should be good then and netsat should show no more apache on port 80
[22:53] <dr_willis> redheat:  mounted file systems - mount, all partions 'sudo fdisk -l'
[22:53] <magma> I'm going to restart to check if it starts again
[22:53] <dr_willis> the nautilus file manager can show the path to the files. ctrl-l
[22:53] <abdostar> MonkeyDust: Connection time out
[22:54] <lindenle_> magma: the init script should not be there anymore
[22:54] <lindenle_> if you uninstalled it
[22:54] <redheat> ok it's located on /dev/sda2
[22:54] <dr_willis> redheat:  thats not its MOUNTPOINT however..
[22:54] <abdostar> MonkeyDust: do I have to configure my router?
[22:54] <magma> lindenle_: the script is there. And I did "sudo apachectl -k start" and it starts working again
[22:54] <dr_willis> so thats not the path to the file
[22:54] <magma> weird
[22:54] <aah> umm is there a way to increase the RAM without having to reinstall ubuntu?
[22:55] <gordonjcp> pecc: or buy a USB device that's supported?  Behringer UCA202 works well for me, and even has an optical out so I can hook it to my mixer
[22:55] <dr_willis> aah:  increase what ram?
[22:55] <lindenle_> magma: did you install it from source
[22:55] <redheat> so how do I get the mounted point/
[22:55] <lindenle_> magma: which  apachectl
[22:55] <magma> lindenle_: that's something I don't know. It's not my machine :S
[22:55] <aah> dr_willis: ram -- random access memory.  ubuntu's ram.
[22:55] <dr_willis> redheat:  mounted file systems - mount, all partions 'sudo fdisk -l' <--------------- The mount command...
[22:56] <dr_willis> aah:  that makes no sence.. You install more ram into the system and ubuntu will use it.
[22:56] <aah> dr_willis: i'm sorry.  i misspoke.  i meant swap space.
[22:56] <aah> :(
[22:56] <redheat> dr_willis, I know I'm badgering you with this I did, so if I want to browse to that partition,  I can write "cd /dev/sda2" is that correct
[22:56] <dr_willis> aah:  you an easially add more swap partions, or swap files.
[22:56] <dr_willis> !swap | aah
[22:56] <lindenle_> magma: that begs the question "why are you messing with someone else's toys"
[22:57] <dr_willis> redheat:  /dev/XXX is NOT a PATH to  the files.. thats the DEVICE NAME..
[22:57] <aah> thanks dr_willis .. i hope i can do it without having to reinstall ubuntu ..
[22:57] <dr_willis> redheat:  you MOUNT a filesystem to a directory...
[22:57] <pecc> gordonjcp, supported by what? All I need really is just single audios in/out 3,5 mm , and wouldn't like to pay extra for mixer connections/such.
[22:57] <aah> i'll check out that link
[22:57] <magma> lindenle_: because now I'm kind of the administrator of this machine
[22:57] <dr_willis> aah:  err... you can add swap on the fly...
[22:57] <joshts386> Hello
[22:57] <gordonjcp> pecc: supported by ALSA
[22:57] <MonkeyDust> abdostar  yeah, you may have to port forward
[22:57] <dr_willis> aah:  you can add swap partions or swap files all day long if you wanted. ;)
[22:58] <joshts386> I am new to ubuntu and have a few questions
[22:58] <aah> dr_willis: that's heartening to hear .. how do i do it?  using gparted?
[22:58] <dr_willis> aah:  No.. You make a swap file and use the swapon command..
[22:58] <magma> lindenle_: assuming it was not installed through some package repository, can I just delete the init script, so that it does not start on booting^?
[22:58] <redheat> ok..ok..got that..
[22:58] <MonkeyDust> joshts386  just ask your question
[22:59] <dr_willis> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/
[22:59] <pecc> gordonjcp, ach, yes... thanks for the help, I'll return later if I get stuck again
[22:59] <roasted> hello!
[23:00] <joshts386> first off, when I use the solitaire game that came with the install, sometimes when I x out it will not completly close out and I have to manually restart my computer
[23:00] <roasted> Question - Ubuntu has the two sided snap vertically. Does that feature exist horizontally, though? In this particular machine I'd prefer to do away with the "slide up to maximize" and have an option to slide up to arrange 50% horizontally, and slide another window down to arrange 50% horizontally. Is that possible?
[23:00] <MonkeyDust> joshts386  alt-fs xkill and click on the window
[23:01] <MonkeyDust> joshts386  alt-f2 xkill and click on the window <-- correction
[23:01] <redheat> dr_willis, how to enable root account?
[23:01] <joshts386> i was wondering if anyone could tell me what might be going on when this happens
[23:01] <netmk> !root | redheat
[23:01] <lindenle_> magma: you can but you can also use update-rc.d to tell it to not start
[23:01] <redheat> I was thinking, I can leave this session, login as root, and then manipulate
[23:02] <magma> lindenle_: good. that's what I want :)
[23:02] <joshts386> thanks monkey
[23:02] <redheat> the folder xorg.conf and get over this pain in the butt process
[23:02] <redheat> netmk
[23:02] <joshts386> there is another issue that has plauged me for awhile now
[23:02] <redheat> netmk, how to enable login window in ubuntu..
[23:02] <lindenle_> magma: update-rc.d manages the soft links in the rcX folders that decide what processes to start at any given run level
[23:02] <redheat> and add a root
[23:02] <lindenle_> check the man page
[23:03] <netmk> it's added right after you install.
[23:03] <joshts386> sometimes when my page is loading the screen will go dim and freeze for a few seconds
[23:03] <MonkeyDust> redheat  you cannot add root
[23:03] <lindenle_> Snax48: I killed mine and re-ran dpkg --confiure -a and it finished
[23:04] <joshts386> this has been an issue for a few months
[23:07] <joshts386> excuse me monkeydust
[23:07] <magma> lindenle_:  this is a directory: /var/lib/update-rc.d
[23:07] <joshts386> ?
[23:07] <magma> oh /usr/sbin/update-rc.d
[23:09] <anon2012> ci sono italiani
[23:09] <ColinApplegate> I know English!
[23:09] <ColinApplegate> Sorry :D
[23:09] <joshts386> i have another issue if anyone would be so kind as to help me
[23:10] <hilarie> I don't think this is the right spot for this, but is there any way to make cinnamon fit on my netbook desktop? it goes up to high
[23:10] <ColinApplegate> what's up Josh! I'll give it my best shot.
[23:10] <joshts386> thanks colin
[23:10] <gperales> exit
[23:10] <aznnobless> wow so many people here.
[23:10] <joshts386> my issue is when my page is loading sometimes my screen will dim and freeze for a second or two
[23:11] <ColinApplegate> of course aznnobless, Ubuntu is the greatest Linux distro on Earth!
[23:11] <ColinApplegate> josh: what page? in a web browser?
[23:11] <joshts386> web browser
[23:11] <ColinApplegate> Firefox?
[23:11] <ColinApplegate> all pageS?
[23:11] <joshts386> usualy something like youtube or any pages like that
[23:11] <yhusha> sudo mount -o loop ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso mnt   is to mount a cd if it were on flash drive what might be an alternative
[23:12] <joshts386> firefox
[23:12] <ColinApplegate> sounds like an issue with the flash player
[23:12] <joshts386> it is different on different pages
[23:12] <ColinApplegate> is it only pages that use Flash
[23:12] <SolarisBoy> yhusha: thats to mount a cd image to a loop device for a flash drive simply mount the drive
[23:13] <joshts386> no not just pages that use flash
[23:13] <aznnobless> any developers here?
[23:13] <yhusha> sudo mount -o /dev/sda2/ubuntu-12.04-desktop-i386.iso mnt   for example
[23:13] <joshts386> sometimes it is facebook and pages like that but it does happen more on pages with flash
[23:13] <SolarisBoy> would mount the iso to mnt (overwriting whats on /mnt) yhusha
[23:14] <aznnobless> I don't like unity.
[23:14] <SolarisBoy> yhusha: well technically i dont think the iso would be on that block device like that either =)
[23:14] <ColinApplegate> Josh: Does your CPU usage spike when this happens? Does the computer become temporarily unresponsive?
[23:14] <magma> lindenle_: thanks for the help. Problem solved :)
[23:14] <joshts386> i have no idea, i just know the page dims and everything freezes for a second
[23:15] <yhusha> am trying to follow this tutorial bt it needs be tuned to 12.04 and flash drive not cd
[23:15] <ColinApplegate> have you tried running Firefox in safe mode?
[23:15] <yhusha> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootToRAM
[23:15] <joshts386> yes i have tried safemode
[23:15] <ColinApplegate> same result?
[23:16] <joshts386> yes
[23:16] <SolarisBoy> yhusha: are you trying to customize a live cd?
[23:16] <yhusha> yes
[23:17] <ColinApplegate> it looks like it's a known bug in 11.04 and nobody has touched it
[23:17] <ColinApplegate> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/800517
[23:17] <yhusha> also using this: sudo mount -o loop /home/user/Desktop/disk1.iso /mnt/disk
[23:17] <SolarisBoy> yhusha: and you are trying on a live usb?
[23:17] <jrib> ColinApplegate: 11.04 isn't supported anymore
[23:17] <joshts386> i am running 12.04
[23:17] <ColinApplegate> jrib: kay! :)
[23:17] <yhusha> well theres a copy of the iso on hdd in /home
[23:18] <yhusha> and on usb
[23:18] <ColinApplegate> i'm just getting back into the linux seen jrib. forgive my ignorance ;)
[23:18] <SolarisBoy> ok you need to mount the iso and then the squashfs in the iso
[23:18] <aznnobless> Isn't it unity problem?
[23:19] <yhusha> not a live usb just a usb with the iso
[23:19] <SolarisBoy> ok so you need to mount the usb first and then mount the iso from there or copy off and then mount the iso
[23:19] <ColinApplegate> well Josh, beats me, man. Sorry. I'm not quite as well versed as a seasoned developer in the OS so my knowledge is limited.
[23:19] <SolarisBoy> the flash drive is just where the iso is at it shouldn't affect anything in that doc your reading
[23:20] <SolarisBoy> where is the usb mounted to on your filesystem yhusha ?
[23:20] <ColinApplegate> man back in the day Jane used to idle here
[23:21] <ColinApplegate> I haven't seen Jane or Mark in years :) Wonder if they even remember me! lol
[23:21] <ColinApplegate> happy Friday everyone! l8r
[23:21] <yhusha> its mounted at /media
[23:22] <yhusha> @ /media/...
[23:23] <Dr_FarFar> Hi All
[23:23] <shadowflee> hey
[23:24] <yhusha> SolarisBoy: @/media/....
[23:26] <ickefes> hi guys. i looked up alsa 1.0.26 and a site said that the changelog was not as exciting as the latest audio updates/features added to kernel. i don't what version of the kernel but do you know what they might be thinking of when they say exciting?
[23:29] <ickefes> anyone have any idea?
[23:29] <bazhang> ickefes, asked in the alsa channel yet?
[23:30] <ickefes> no but i maybe should be doing so. thank you
[23:30] <bazhang> should be #alsa
[23:30] <SolarisBoy> yhusha: ok so load the iso from that path.
[23:30] <ickefes> thank you
[23:31] <fishcooker> i've tried several solution for enabling BT on my asus but it won't work .. fn+ f2 not working, restart bluetooth on /etc/init.d/
[23:31] <fishcooker> install blueman also
[23:31] <fishcooker> doesn't solve the problem
[23:31] <fishcooker> TT
[23:31] <yhusha> so something like sudo mount /media/..../isofile /mnt
[23:32] <recover_ext4> Hi, I need some help. I've tried many tools to recover lost data on an ext4 partition, but its not been possible so far. Most recently I've been tryin photorec, and a few others. I've manged to recover data that existed years ago on the hard drive, but the recent ext4 data hasn't been recovered (from same drive).
[23:32] <sam_nazarko> should i just not use ubuntu? black screen on boot.
[23:32] <sam_nazarko> Jordan_U: are you online
[23:33] <TheLordOfTime> USAArmy1
[23:33] <Jordan_U> sam_nazarko: Yes.
[23:33] <sam_nazarko> do you remember me?
[23:33] <sam_nazarko> had some questions about lvm and grub you answered
[23:33] <recover_ext4> Anyone know data recovery?
[23:33] <Jordan_U> sam_nazarko: Sorry but no.
[23:33] <JerryCotton> hi, i installed ubuntu. unfortunatly grub doesnt find my fedora lvm partition. how can i add that partition in the boot menu
[23:33] <Jordan_U> recover_ext4: How was the data lost, and have you now learned your lesson about keeping good backups?
[23:34] <sam_nazarko> Jordan_U: you told me to dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc and got me booting. But now I only get a black screen after grub. tried removing the quiet and splash options but nothing
[23:34] <zykotick9> JerryCotton: have you tried running "sudo update-grub" to verify?
[23:34] <Jordan_U> sam_nazarko: Have you tried nomodeset?
[23:35] <JerryCotton> zykotick does that make sense? i installed ubuntu 5 minutes ago. i thought grub does update at install?
[23:35] <sam_nazarko> can try, any idea what may be causing it
[23:35] <sam_nazarko> 1min jordan_u
[23:35] <sam_nazarko> it worked before so not sure what's up now. all i did was add a serial port
[23:35] <JerryCotton> i cant even see the lvm partition in nautilus
[23:35] <zykotick9> JerryCotton: during install, it's not surprising it didn't get added.  try it, and see if you notice it in the output.
[23:35] <Jordan_U> JerryCotton: Do you have the "lvm2" package installed?
[23:35] <recover_ext4> Whats the best data recovery tool for ext4?
[23:35] <JerryCotton> ok
[23:36] <zykotick9> !tab | JerryCotton
[23:37] <sam_nazarko> Jordan_U: nomodeset did not help,
[23:37] <sam_nazarko> black screen but it is getting a signal
[23:37] <JerryCotton> !tab test
[23:37] <JerryCotton> ?
[23:37] <JerryCotton> what do you mean?
[23:37] <JerryCotton> the key itself doesnt do anything
[23:38] <zykotick9> JerryCotton: try zyko<TAB>
[23:38] <JerryCotton> zykotick9:
[23:38] <JerryCotton> ah tx :)
[23:38] <sam_nazarko> I have been trying for 7 days to get ubuntu working now
[23:38] <recover_ext4> Does anyone here know data recovery?
[23:38] <sam_nazarko> I'm not an idiot; and know my way around Linux, so I am starting to think this is the product of a 6-month release cycle
[23:39] <Jordan_U> recover_ext4: We can't help you if you don't answer our quetions. Did you see my questions?
[23:39] <bug-traq> recover_ext4,  what you need to know about data recovery ???
[23:39] <JerryCotton> zykotick9: this is the output of update grub: Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-23-generic-pae
[23:39] <JerryCotton> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-23-generic-pae
[23:39] <JerryCotton> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[23:39] <JerryCotton> Found Windows 7 (loader) on /dev/sda1
[23:39] <JerryCotton> done
[23:39] <FloodBot1> JerryCotton: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:39] <lindenle_> magma: +1 good work
[23:39] <JerryCotton> dont see if fedora is includet here
[23:39] <alusion> how do I tell ffmpeg to convert .ogg to .gif or something?
[23:40] <Jordan_U> JerryCotton: Do you have the "lvm2" package installed?
[23:40] <bekks> alusion: .ogg is a sound file, .gif is a graphics file.
[23:40] <JerryCotton> no think not i just installed ubuntu 2 minutes ago Jordan_U
[23:40] <magma> lindenle_: glad there are guys like you here :)
[23:40] <Jordan_U> JerryCotton: sudo apt-get install lvm2
[23:40] <JerryCotton> tx ill try
[23:41] <JerryCotton> after that upgrade grub again?
[23:41] <Jordan_U> JerryCotton: Yes.
[23:41] <lindenle_> magma: ythat is why they pay me the big bux :P
[23:42] <JerryCotton> Jordan_U a get a error message. lvm2 not available
[23:42] <JerryCotton> do i need to add a rep for this?
[23:42] <Jordan_U> JerryCotton: Please pastebin the exact error message.
[23:42] <Jordan_U> JerryCotton: No.
[23:43] <bug-traq> recover_ext4,  try testdisk it is for data recovery on ext4
[23:44] <zykotick9> bug-traq: fyi, photorec is file recovery part of testdisk (which does partition recovery)
[23:45] <bug-traq> zykotick9,  ok ???
[23:45] <zykotick9> bug-traq: they said they'd already tried that...
[23:45] <bug-traq> zykotick9,  testdisk is what i have used and it worked well , just a suggestion  thats all
[23:46] <Jordan_U> JerryCotton: Please pastebin the complete output of "sudo LANG=C apt-get install lvm2".
[23:46] <zykotick9> bug-traq: i hear that.  photorec has been a HUGE benefit to me a couple of times ;)
[23:47] <recover_ext4> I've had plenty of luck recovering other partitions with photorec, just haven't managed to recover ext4.
[23:47] <Jordan_U> recover_ext4: How was the data lost, and have you now learned your lesson about keeping good backups?
[23:48] <sam_nazarko> no ideas then jordan_u
[23:48] <JerryCotton> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1400901/
[23:48] <Jordan_U> sam_nazarko: Does the Ubuntu LiveCD/USB work properly?
[23:48] <bug-traq> recover_ext4, Testdisk will bring back any partitions you accidentally erased or lost. But some data may not come back with the partition. However, you can gain access to that data when the partition table is available again  , this is from the website itself
[23:48] <recover_ext4> For the person who keeps making stupid whisper comments, the data was lost during a backup.
[23:48] <JerryCotton> i have to add the information. this is a fresh ubuntu 12.04. i did do nothing before
[23:49] <sam_nazarko> Yes jordan_u. I had the system booting before, but now all fresh installs are the same
[23:49] <Jordan_U> JerryCotton: You definitely should not be getting that output.
[23:50] <Jordan_U> sam_nazarko: Was it booting before with the same version of Ubuntu? Do you have hybrid graphics?
[23:50] <sam_nazarko> Jordan_U: I am doing this. Netboot, installing to an LVM within RAID1 (mdadm). Grub always fails (installs to /dev/sda), so I chroot in, install to /dev/sdc and /dev/sdc, do dpkg-reconfigure and check /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc as my target drives
[23:50] <sam_nazarko> Integrated graphics, just trying to get a tty, did not install desktop
[23:50] <sam_nazarko> yes, same version
[23:50] <Jordan_U> sam_nazarko: If the installation is failing at installing grub, there may be steps after that that it's not performing.
[23:51] <JerryCotton> Jordan_U any ideas? :)
[23:51] <Jordan_U> JerryCotton: Please pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get update".
[23:51] <sam_nazarko> Jordan_U, after I chroot, I then select 'Finish installation' option in the install and iit goes OK
[23:52] <Jordan_U> sam_nazarko: Installation to /dev/sda should not fail, even if that's not the drive whose boot sector you want grub installed to, and there should be an option to install grub to a different disk, or skip grub installation entirely.
[23:53] <BlackScreen> Hello. My colleague has installed Ubuntu Alternate choosing to put grub on /dev/sda, but upon boot he gets a black screen after holding shift to see 'loading grub'
[23:53] <Jordan_U> sam_nazarko: Is there a reason that you need to use the netboot installer?
[23:54] <JerryCotton> Jordan_U http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1400905/
[23:54] <GartimusPrime> hello
[23:54] <Jordan_U> BlackScreen: Does your colleague have more than one hard drive, and is he sure that his firmware is booting from sda?
[23:54] <GartimusPrime> new guy with a stupid question
[23:55] <GartimusPrime> I have a old desktop collecting dust that I decided to install Ubuntu 12.10 on
[23:55] <BlackScreen> Jordan_U: yeah he has two hard drives, would it be best to just disconnect one then install that way
[23:55] <GartimusPrime> installation went great\
[23:55] <sam_nazarko> Jordan_U: I tried alternate disc, but only ever had luck with the netboot
[23:56] <GartimusPrime> but now I have just a black screen with mouse pointer
[23:56] <GartimusPrime> any suggestions?
[23:57] <bug-traq> GartimusPrime,  i still get a black screen with mouse pointer , if i have my ext. harddrive or phone in the usb upon boot
[23:57] <fishcooker> recover_ext4: afaik photorec still the best sorry
[23:57] <Jordan_U> BlackScreen: The issue isn't so much when installing, it's when booting with two drives in the computer. Right now only sda has a valid bootloader on it, so if the computer boots from the other drive (with a broken old grub install) booting will fail. You can install grub to both drives, so that it doesn't matter which drive the firmware tries to boot from.
[23:57] <fishcooker> why you dont fat.ing your drive ..
[23:57] <fishcooker> there is get data back
[23:57] <fishcooker> in windows
[23:57] <GartimusPrime> all I have is mouse and ir device
[23:57] <fishcooker> :cheers:
[23:57] <bug-traq> GartimusPrime, all i have to do is unplug the ext. hd drive or phone and hit enter and it boots
[23:58] <GartimusPrime> hmm
[23:58] <Jordan_U> recover_ext4: Can you be more specific about how the data was lost? How it was lost makes a huge difference when it comes to recovering it.
[23:58] <GartimusPrime> I have no ext. hd
[23:59] <GartimusPrime> maybe my pc is too old?
[23:59] <BlackScreen> Jordan_U: how would i install grub on both via ubuntu server install?
[23:59] <OpenSorce> What's the channel for steam on linux?