[01:18] <rick_h__> party
[01:23] <snap-l> Evening
[01:23] <jjesse> that it is
[01:23] <jjesse> made the mistake of going to meijer
[01:24] <jjesse> i think i know what one of the levels of hell must be like
[01:25] <rick_h__> ugh
[01:27] <_stink_> haha
[02:18] <snap-l> You haven't found levels of hell until you've tried to clear out a Meijer on Christmas Eve.
[02:19] <snap-l> Hundreds of people wondering why you're kicking them out at 7pm on Christmas Eve
[03:17] <rick_h__> jrwren: bmark.us back up
[03:18] <rick_h__> jrwren: let me know if you hit any issues
[03:18] <rick_h__> little more work to do, but running > *
[13:44] <snap-l> Well, I think I just bought my last ASUS laptop
[13:44] <snap-l> there's no way to replace the hard drive externally.
[13:49] <mydogsnameisrudy> its not removeable?
[14:03] <snap-l> Apparently today is happy technology day
[14:04] <snap-l> the machines are rebeling. :)
[14:11] <snap-l> rick_h__: Seen any sheep recently?
[16:43] <jrwren> yay! bmarks
[21:10] <greg-g> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Detached_Umbilical_Cord.jpg
[21:10] <greg-g> :)
[21:31] <rick_h__> greg-g: heh
[21:35] <rick_h__> snap-l: issues today?
[22:41] <rick_h_droid> mmm phone irc
[22:42] <rick_h_droid> Let's see how this destroys my battery
[23:10] <greg-g> rick_h__: the "how" is "quickly"
[23:12] <rick_h_droid> lol
[23:23] <Blazeix> rick_h_droid: cool, got your nexus? when did it show up?
[23:24] <rick_h_droid> yesterday
[23:24] <Blazeix> nice
[23:24] <rick_h_droid> I didn't get much work done in the afternoon
[23:27] <rick_h_droid> Blazeix so what do you think? good upgrade from the old DROID?
[23:32] <Blazeix> definitely, I was worried it might be too big, but the size is great.
[23:32] <Blazeix> the widgets screen is kind of weird, but that's a very minor point
[23:35] <rick_h_droid> yea I'm missing my hardware button
[23:35] <rick_h_droid> for instance it'd complete names in irc
[23:36] <rick_h_droid> and the hard menu key for showing /hiding the keyboard
[23:36] <rick_h_droid> the text input is much nicer though
[23:37] <rick_h_droid> I definitely  think I have to get extended battery though


[17:04] <Mister_> EriC^^, i was so angry , i didn't know how a such trouble could exist! I even think tha my cat did the job: it always come one my keyboard . I sarted suspect him to push some key that could launch a fatal erasing process
[17:06] <EriC^^> Mister_: lol :D
[17:07] <ash_work> can you search for multiple files?
[17:07] <EriC^^> ash_work: find -iname "something" -o -iname "something"
[17:07] <Mister_> EriC^^, yes it's the truth. My cat always disturb me.Always looking afte me whereever i go.But more seriously i suspect bandit to be the reason of my crash.
[17:08] <burk_20> Hi all, the partition (SSD) of my ubuntu is almost full and I would like to use the hard disk for more expace. Is it possible to extend the SSD space with the hard disk?
[17:09] <ash_work> EriC^^: that wasn't want I meant
[17:09] <burk_20> I am not talking about mounting the hard disk, but on extending the available space. I need to install more programs in the "SSD"
[17:09] <ash_work> what*
[17:09] <compdoc> burk_20, you could mount whole directories on the other drive, like /home
[17:09] <burk_20> cl ö
[17:10] <burk_20> compdoc, that I already have in /home, is it possible to "move" or "extend" it with the hard disk using the mount option?
[17:10] <zach2825> hi, does anyone here know postfix?
[17:10] <burk_20> I dont want to mount on new folders
[17:10] <ikonia> many people
[17:10] <zach2825> lol thank you.
[17:11] <zach2825> im trying to see which domain which domain is queuing email
[17:11] <Bodsda> Hi, my xorg.conf is getting overwitten on every reboot. Can anyone suggest a way of identifying what program is overwriting it? -- I'm running ubuntu 15.04 + fluxbox
[17:11] <Mister_> EriC^^,you know my personnal job is creation (3D ) .So i am so dissapointed !
[17:11] <EriC^^> burk_20: use /home on the ssd instead and you'll get the space that /home takes up right now
[17:12] <EriC^^> to install programs
[17:12] <EriC^^> Mister_: should be ok
[17:13] <Mister_> EriC^^, thats all what i hope. (i saw so many stange troubles). It's one of the reason that make me join linux community.
[17:13] <zach2825> i currently host a few wordpress instances and one of them is hacked but i cannot tell which one is sending out the emails..
[17:15] <zach2825> oh and my server is ubuntu 14.04 and the mail service is postfix
[17:16] <Mister_> EriC^^,if you help me to solve my trouble , i 'll sent you a small Demo (about my job). just tell me yes if i ask you later to accept my present
[17:17] <moat_joe> Can I upload a .crash file to have it analyzed?
[17:17] <moat_joe> or can I get some useful info (like a backtrace) from it?
[17:17] <echo1> I have solved my problem: 1. Uncomment everything in /etc/network/interfaces under interface lo, in other words uncomment wlan and eth configuration. 2. Reboot. 3. Run: nmcli dev wifi con SSID_name password SSID_password iface wlan0
[17:18] <Noobi> is ubuntu good for programming?
[17:18] <Noobi> with python
[17:18] <Noobi> or should I try another *buntu version
[17:19] <echo1> Noobi: is not good, it is great
[17:19] <Noobi> ideal?
[17:19] <echo1> Noobi: each distro is fine actually, it depends on your pc
[17:20] <Noobi> It's a decent PC
[17:20] <echo1> Noobi: ubuntu is the way to go
[17:20] <Noobi> so I guess doing Lubuntu would be pointless since I don't have any performance issues
[17:20] <Noobi> Ok thanks :)
[17:20] <echo1> Noobi: that's right
[17:21] <lucidguy> ok confused.  Just changed my UID, but didn't have to chmod mass change all my $/* files.  Shouldnt all my old files still be listed with the old UID?
[17:21] <Bashing-om> Noobi: The only difference between (l)ubuntu and (u)buntu is the desk top and the default installed apps. The kernel is the kernel is the kernel and is the same .
[17:23] <Noobi> Bashing-om: So choosing between *buntu versions is not that important
[17:23] <bazhang> Bashing-om, the repos and the package mgmt as well
[17:23] <echo1> Noobi: for python it's not that important. Some packages they do change
[17:24] <bazhang> Noobi, important when ram etc is limited
[17:24] <Noobi> Also my tutorial requires I do bash first
[17:24] <jhutchins> lucidguy: How did you change it?
[17:24] <Noobi> So is ubuntu fine in that sense?
[17:24] <Bashing-om> Noobi: Subjective as to personal preference, and IF the hardware supports higher demands ( like 3d accelleration and so forth) .
[17:25] <echo1> Noobi: for python just install ubunti, is the easiest way and dont worry
[17:25] <dgarstang> Where's the best place to put a persistent lock file?
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> dgarstang  look in /Var/Lib/Apt/Lists/Lock
[17:26] <dgarstang> MonkeyDust: it's not for apt tho
[17:27] <josePHPagoda> hello everyone.  I'm trying to increase the stack size limit on my phpfpm daemon
[17:27] <josePHPagoda> i can't seem to get it to change
[17:27] <josePHPagoda> i've tried changing the init script to have ulimit -s unlimited
[17:27] <josePHPagoda> at the beginning and it doesn't seem to do anything
[17:31] <OneM_Industries> I am attempting to set up a pair of bluetooth headphones, but they will not play sound. I cannot find them in the sound settings, and I am not sure what I would need to do to get them to work.
[17:32] <OneM_Industries> They show up under bluetooth devices, but that is it,
[17:34] <Mister_> Eric^^, so i just crash scanning 2 probable suspect text files. And suddenly crash (Explorer dissapead ,Main Menu too)
[17:34] <Mister_> EriC^^,  But test disk terminal still running
[17:35] <EriC^^> run analyze
[17:36] <Mister_> let me check the directoy size where 2 txt files are  located .Cause i was backing up this directory
[17:39] <Mister_> This directory seems no to be backup , but it should be ! One strange thing mow , all directory on USB key are drawing with a padlock ICON .Why?
[17:40] <EriC^^> Mister_: it's probably mounted by root
[17:40] <Mister_> i was wrong part of dirctoy is backup
[17:40] <OerHeks> OneM_Industries, you might need the stream2ip package >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothHeadset
[17:40] <Mister_> i check both size now
[17:41] <Mister_> linux tells 407 Mo size for original directory
[17:42] <Mister_> and said 406.8 Mo for backup directory , all is nearly good
[17:42] <Mister_> but very strange txt files . Maybe zipping then before copy
[17:43] <Mister_> i am fed up so i launch analyse now?
[17:44] <EriC^^> ok
[17:44] <Mister_> i try with help of GOD now
[17:44] <EriC^^> Mister_: do you have any file you remember from the dir that was deleted?
[17:45] <EriC^^> what was the dir called?
[17:45] <OneM_Industries> OerHeks: How would I verify that I have that? Synaptic Package Manager does not show that package.
[17:45] <Mister_> no because there were so many files. But i can look after very old backup to know about some name.
[17:46] <EriC^^> Mister_: what was it called?
[17:46] <Mister_> can you imagine about 200 Mo of some text files !
[17:46] <EriC^^> ( the dir )
[17:46] <OerHeks> OneM_Industries, good point, i only read the manual
[17:47] <Mister_> EriC^^,  i can't tell the names because my job is secret (CREATION)
[17:47] <Mister_> lets return to testdisk
[17:47] <EriC^^> Mister_: ok, type sudo find /path/to/usb -iname "*dirname*"
[17:48] <EriC^^> Mister_: i think you might have moved the file and dropped it into another dir
[17:49] <Mister_> i ' ve already think about what you say.But i launch disk cat on some linux OS and even on Win XP :  they didn't found any files  and not the directory
[17:50] <Mister_> all have dissapeard , but my usb key is now 395 Mo free and before the crash 40 Mo free maybe
[17:51] <EriC^^> oh ok
[17:51] <Mister_> thats why i tell you i lost 400 Mo datas
[17:52] <Mister_> main impotant files  are some kind of txt files !  Did i tell you my USB key has only one partition !
[18:01] <Mister_> ok p : list files
[18:01] <Mister_> i should see deleted files if they exist you mean EriC^^ ?
[18:01] <EriC^^> Mister_: yeah
[18:02] <EriC^^> they should show up in red
[18:02] <Mister_> ok i understand why you wanted to know if i remember deleted file names!
[18:02] <alphagene> hello, port 25 is open on my machine (nmap localhost). I runned netstat but I do not get any further information which program has opened that port. Do you have any tips?
[18:02] <alphagene> how to find the program
[18:03] <Pici> alphagene: sudo netstat -tanp | grep 25 will show you which process has that port open
[18:03] <EriC^^> Mister_: it should show you the dir that you deleted
[18:03] <Mister_> i 'll recognize them don't worry : before i must jump into ... into nothing cause directory has been deleted . i mean i only look for directory name
[18:04] <alphagene> hmm, curious, it says tcp6, what is this?
[18:04] <alphagene> @Pici
[18:04] <EriC^^> Mister_: actually i asked that to run the search
[18:04] <Mister_> EriC^^,  oh strange thing , some red file names apprears
[18:04] <EriC^^> Mister_: anyways, it should show you the deleted dir in red
[18:05] <Mister_> ok i can see some of them in root USB dir !
[18:05] <Pici> alphagene: because it is listening on your ipv6 address. The process name is on the far right.
[18:06] <Mister_> i look for application directory first  (existing dir)
[18:06] <alphagene> Pici, thanks a lot, my terminal window was too small to see. It says 'master'? what is this?
[18:06] <brad_> I'm running 14.04 LTS and my computer lags out when I watch streaming videos.
[18:06] <brad_> Is there a fix for this?
[18:06] <ioria> postfix
[18:07] <Pici> alphagene: as ioria says, its postfix
[18:07] <OerHeks> brad_, we need more details, specs of your machine? videocard?
[18:07] <Mister_> EriC^^,  what about locked directory ? sould they be visible?
[18:07] <brad_> 16 gb ram. graphics: Intel® Ivybridge Mobile. processor: Intel® Core™ i7-3630QM CPU @ 2.40GHz × 8
[18:08] <Amoz> brad_, what browser?
[18:08] <alphagene> I purged postfix, do you haveany idea what it could have caused? I do not run a mail server or any thing like that
[18:08] <OerHeks> Intel® Ivybridge Mobile, is that intel 3000 ?
[18:08] <linocisco> pdf printer for ubuntu please
[18:09] <MonkeyDust> linocisco  more details please
[18:09] <Mister_> ok founded
[18:09] <reisio> linocisco: probably already have one
[18:09] <brad_> Amoz firefox
[18:09] <linocisco> MonkeyDust, i want to print my document in pdf format
[18:09] <xxavi> hi
[18:09] <Amoz> linocisco, from Libreoffice?
[18:09] <reisio> linocisco: that's called saving or exporting
[18:09] <OerHeks> brad_, oh i found it, intel 4000. not a racemonster, but should be able to play 720p
[18:10] <reisio> don't ask me why it's sometimes called exporting, though
[18:10] <reisio> xxavi: hi
[18:10] <xxavi> I get this message: "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Unknown protocol 'webcals'.". Any idea ?
[18:10] <xxavi> reisio: hi
[18:10] <Mister_> EriC^^,  white log file appears in testdisk it said "npacking ../libsexy2_0....."
[18:10] <linocisco> reisio, Amoz yes
[18:10] <brad_> OerHeks, so it's expected that this will happen?
[18:10] <EriC^^> Mister_: hmm
[18:10] <alphagene> xxavi, kde perhaps?
[18:10] <xxavi> alphagene: yes
[18:10] <Amoz> brad_, what stream are you referring to?
[18:10] <Mister_> EriC^^,  found working deleed dir called SAMPLE in red
[18:11] <OerHeks> brad_, expected?
[18:11] <EriC^^> Mister_: did you find the dir that has the 400mb?
[18:11] <brad_> it's happened both on youtube and facebook
[18:11] <Mister_> yes ,
[18:11] <OerHeks> i just said 720p should do fine, do you play full hd?
[18:11] <Asta666> hello
[18:12] <Mister_> what do i do with red dir ?
[18:12] <OerHeks> brad_,  then try chrome browser with buildin pepperflash
[18:12] <reisio> Asta666: hi
[18:12] <alphagene> xxavi, install kinit kio kio-extras (sudo apt-get install...)
[18:12] <EriC^^> Mister_: ok press C over it
[18:12] <xxavi> alphagene: ok, I try it, thanks
[18:13] <alphagene> xxavi, no problem
[18:13] <Mister_> c to perform a copy i suppose !
[18:13] <EriC^^> Mister_: yes press c and then type the destination where to copy to
[18:13] <Mister_> ok now we must select destination dir i suppose. Lets select  system root dir
[18:13] <brad_> OerHeks it happened again in chrome
[18:14] <Mister_> ok path selected , must press Y i suppode
[18:14] <EriC^^> yes
[18:15] <Mister_> ok copying ...
[18:15] <Mister_> ok testdist , returns in disk dirctory list now
[18:16] <EriC^^> ok
[18:16] <EriC^^> press q a bunch of times til it quits
[18:16] <Mister_> oh no dirctory is empty
[18:17] <EriC^^> go back to testdisk
[18:17] <Mister_> ok still running
[18:17] <ioria> alphagene, you purged postfix ?
[18:18] <EriC^^> go to the dir thats red, press the right arrow
[18:18] <Mister_> do i press and go into delete dir ?
[18:18] <EriC^^> yeah
[18:18] <alphagene> ioria: Yeah, it isn't a bad thing, is it?
[18:18] <Mister_> ok inside deletesd dir i can see big red filename list
[18:19] <ioria> alphagene, and you have process master running ?   try ps -A | grep master and catch the id
[18:19] <Mister_> i press c on one file it said Copy one (green ink)
[18:19] <Mister_> let me check result
[18:19] <ioria> alphagene, then sudo ls -l /proc/(pid id)/exe
[18:19] <fontis> Hmm, anyone here running Elementary Freya? I'm just looking to see if it's worth "downgrading" from ubuntu gnome 15.04 to it. Or if it's just not worth the hassle
[18:20] <Mister_>  ok recovered this perticuliar  file it seems
[18:20] <daftykins> !elementary | fontis Sorry, no talk of it here.
[18:20] <alphagene> ioria, thanks a lot, but I do not have any process listen on that port, hope my machine is not going to explode
[18:20] <OerHeks> fontis, ask in their support room, you would get funny answers here :-D
[18:20] <fontis> I know
[18:20] <fontis> Which is exactly why I'm asking it here haha
[18:20] <fontis> I'm trying to get "our" perspective on the switch u see :P
[18:21] <daftykins> fontis: well the perspective is no Elementary chat here thanks
[18:21] <OerHeks> fontis, oke, we had a good laugh, now please keep this channel clear for ubuntu support, thanks
[18:21] <ioria> alphagene, the port is 25 is for mta .... you need the pid of 'master', then you can trace which program has lauched it
[18:22] <alphagene> ioria, thanks a lot I will trace it on another machine
[18:23] <ioria> alphagene, ok
[18:23] <dangoo87> hi there, I have an issue with sound, I have managed to get teamspeak to play through headphones, but that seems to be the only program that does.  I can play everything else through my monitor speakers, but when I try and set it up for my headphones, nothing but teamspeak plays through it. Anyone have any ideas?
[18:24] <EriC^^> Mister_: did you press C or c?
[18:24] <EriC^^> when you recovered the dir
[18:24] <Mister_> ok EriC^^  , i crash again cause of my antyvirus ! . I must check if the recoverd file is ok now.i mus see what it looks like
[18:24] <EriC^^> ok
[18:24] <TomyWork> can i downgrade firefox to 38.0 somehow? it's not listed as an available version on aptitude
[18:25] <TomyWork> the reason being that it cannot connect to a certain intranet server anymore
[18:25] <TomyWork> i use firefox pretty much only for that server
[18:25] <alphagene> TomyWork, have you configured the proxy settings
[18:25] <reisio> TomyWork: what's it say when you try?
[18:26] <no_gravity> Anybody here using Ubuntu with unity and a task bar? I wonder if I should install tint2 or conky.
[18:26] <daftykins> TomyWork: browsers should be kept up to date to remain secure online.
[18:26] <daftykins> TomyWork: is this down to SSLv3 certificate failure?
[18:26] <TomyWork>  SSL received a weak ephemeral Diffie-Hellman key in Server Key Exchange handshake message. (Error code: ssl_error_weak_server_ephemeral_dh_key)
[18:27] <TomyWork> alphagene no proxy needed. i tried disabling it entirely already, same error.
[18:27] <TomyWork> reisio see above
[18:27] <TomyWork> daftykins i dont use that browser for the internet, only that one intranet page on which it fails now
[18:27] <TomyWork> i use chromium for everything else
[18:28] <daftykins> that's nice
[18:29] <TomyWork> i tried adding the host to "security.tls.insecure_fallback_hosts" already and all the ciphers listed under about:config are enabled
[18:29] <alphagene> TomyWork, type about:config in the url  menu, and set these settings     security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_aes_128_sha
[18:29] <alphagene>     and security.ssl3.dhe_rsa_aes_256_sha to false
[18:30] <TomyWork> wouldnt that disable those ciphers?
[18:31] <TomyWork> oooh, that worked
[18:31] <TomyWork> thanks a lot
[18:31] <alphagene> TomyWork, no problem
[18:32] <nino> ciao
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> alphagene  that's so specific, how did you know?
[18:33] <alphagene> MonkeyDust, Google is awesome haha
[18:34] <TomyWork> yeah i think i found the same thing. i thought i had to set the to true to enable them
[18:34] <Mister_> EriC^^,  guess what ?
[18:34] <EriC^^> what?
[18:35] <Mister_> i did complete crash  ! I've just reboot all system .
[18:35] <ioria> the cat ?
[18:35] <Mister_> No the cat  not this time. It's Antivirus's fault i suppose
[18:35] <ioria> ok
[18:36] <Mister_> so i did sudo apt-get update , i must have text editor and  picture viewer to install now .before using testdisk
[18:36] <EriC^^> ok
[18:37] <TomyWork> i installed a package with dpkg -i, turns out i need some java package first that i cant get to right now. now i need to install something else and apt-get refuses to comply without fixing that unrelated package first.
[18:37] <Mister_> i put gedit but look for picture viewer EriC^^  now
[18:37] <daftykins> TomyWork: yeah so remove that one with dpkg -r
[18:37] <TomyWork> is there a way to do that or do i need to uninstall the broken package?
[18:37] <ioria> maybe purge it and install with apt ?
[18:37] <TomyWork> ioria it's not in the ubuntu repos
[18:37] <ioria> oh...
[18:37] <TomyWork> intellij community edition
[18:38] <ioria> i'd purge it anyway ... but it's me
[18:38] <Mister_> USB key plugged testdisk launched
[18:40] <Mister_> EriC^^,  and what about multi selection in testdisk?
[18:41] <TomyWork> oooh i found my java package
[18:41] <Mister_> ok 3 files recovered .Let me check them
[18:41] <ioria> TomyWork, the thing is that if you run apt-cache search intellij-*    you get result .... libgradle-plugins-java, i know that doesn't fit
[18:41] <EriC^^> Mister_: ok
[18:42] <Mister_> oh a whole sub-dir has been recover it seems !
[18:43] <TomyWork> ioria yup. gradle works with intellij, that's the relation. it's mentioned in the package's description
[18:44] <ioria> TomyWork, i see
[18:44] <Mister_> backing up all .ok successful text file
[18:44] <EriC^^> Mister_: ok, great, press c over the main dir, it should recover everything
[18:44] <fontis> I just got a random curious question, is anyone here running gnome 3.16 on 15.04?
[18:44] <EriC^^> ( c not C )
[18:44] <Mister_> i fear the worst ! But i try !
[18:45] <Mister_> copying ...
[18:45] <Mister_> copy done , lets check now
[18:45] <EriC^^> hmm that was quick
[18:45] <fontis> Cause the gnome3-staging ppa install seems to ruin my setup completely, throws me into endless chaos. Still not managed to cleanly install 3.16 on 15.04 :(
[18:45] <Mister_> ok 313 Mo recovered
[18:45] <EriC^^> nice
[18:46] <LordThumper> Hi
[18:46] <Mister_> ok the cat did the worst fear in my life. ok i know what i said...
[18:47] <OerHeks> fontis, PPA's happen to break, and unfortunately not supported here.
[18:47] <alphagene> Unity is really awesome if you disable that sidebar, clearly superior to gnome
[18:47] <OerHeks> fontis, ask next time who runs that staging ppa ;-)
[18:47] <LordThumper> I am trying to boot into a Ubuntu live cd.
[18:47] <LordThumper> I am on Windows 10 with fast boot enabled. Is it possible?
[18:47] <wileee> alphagene, unity runs on top gnome
[18:47] <Mister_> i said i'll give something to you : so do no change your nick in the future  .Cause i 'll need to contact you
[18:47] <OerHeks> LordThumper, most times not, fastboot prevents booting from media
[18:48] <no_gravity> I tried tint2 and did not like it. now i installed conky - how do i start it?
[18:48] <Mister_> just  let me time enough to find a subjet for your present , EriC^^
[18:48] <LordThumper> OerHeks: I see, I intend to install Ubuntu on a USB drive, and it is quite a hassle to disable fast boot each time I need to boot
[18:48] <EriC^^> Mister_: it's ok, none required :)
[18:48] <ioria> Eric^^ beer ?
[18:49] <EriC^^> sure
[18:49] <Mister_> a little game only for you (if you want)
[18:49] <alphagene> I mean the gnome shell
[18:49] <ioria> Mister_, a lifetime forniture of beer
[18:49] <wileee> alphagene, It's all gnome 3, yes we understand your like.
[18:50] <Mister_> let me translate ...
[18:50] <Mister_> let me translate ... My English is not ok.English is not my primary language you know
[18:51] <EriC^^> Mister_: it's ok, thanks anyways though :)
[18:51] <ioria> Mister_, a lifetime stock of beer
[18:51] <Mister_> he he !
[18:52] <reisio> nomnom
[18:53] <__raven_> hi
[18:53] <reisio> heyo
[18:53] <__raven_> how to disable a specific usb device in 14.04.3?
[18:54] <Mister_> Be back later 1 mounth less, to install Ubuntu MATE USB live (i already test) . Keep it  for a long time use (especially if Wine compatible)
[18:54] <reisio> __raven_: what for?
[18:54] <Mister_> ok tnx to all of you !
[18:55] <h4k1m> hi all
[18:55] <h4k1m> what's the vnc client/server recommended to use on ubuntu?
[18:55] <__raven_> reisio: cut the power of a device what sends broken messages on the hub
[18:55] <Mister_> Bye bye.
[18:55] <jackhum> I want to setup simple proxy in my 14.04 , earlier when i was using windows i used a sofware named proxifier , i usually entered my public ip and port 3128 , into it and it worked fine. How can i setup proxy in ubuntu
[18:56] <ioria> h4k1m, vino server is installed and vingagre is the client ... but you can choose
[18:56] <ioria> *vinagre
[18:56] <jackhum> i already googled but each blog mentions something like squid , can anyone tell me how can i configure proxy on my ubuntu
[18:56] <ioria> h4k1m, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Servers
[18:57] <ioria> h4k1m, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Clients
[18:57] <teward> jackhum: what do you mean by 'simple proxy' in this case?
[18:57] <h4k1m> ioria: thank you ^^
[18:58] <ioria> h4k1m, my advice is for x11vnc
[18:58] <TomyWork> how do i wireshark as non-root?
[18:58] <ioria> h4k1m, if the server is windows, then rdesktop
[18:58] <TomyWork> the group wireshark doesnt exist, so i cant give myself that
[18:58] <h4k1m> ioria: I didn't find anything for tigervnc on ubuntu, does it exist in the repos?
[18:59] <h4k1m> no windows is actually the client and ubuntu is the server
[18:59] <jackhum> teward: the proxy was really easy to setup , you know i am not very familiar with linux terminal env, right now
[18:59] <teward> jackhum: that wasn't my question
[18:59] <ioria> h4k1m, mmm... maybe not
[18:59] <ioria> !info tigervnc
[19:00] <EriC^^> TomyWork: setcap 'CAP_NET_RAW+eip CAP_NET_ADMIN+eip' /usr/bin/dumpcap
[19:00] <jackhum> teward: then what are you trying to ask ?>
[19:00] <teward> [2015-08-28 14:55:41] <jackhum> I want to setup simple proxy in my 14.04 , earlier when i was using windows i used a sofware named proxifier , i usually entered my public ip and port 3128 , into it and it worked fine. How can i setup proxy in ubuntu    <-- what do you mean by 'simple proxy'
[19:00] <h4k1m> ioria: I'm using rdp right now (on an Amazone EC2 server), I'm wondering if VNC is more efficient
[19:00] <teward> or proxy in this matter
[19:01] <h4k1m> I guess I need to try x11vnc
[19:01] <ioria> h4k1m, no clue, sorry
[19:01] <TomyWork> EriC^^ i found dpkg-reconfigure wireshark-common
[19:01] <jackhum> teward: my college has blocked some sites , and i want to access those site
[19:02] <mistralol> would somebody be able to help me with xsp4. I have an application that work sin 14.10 but not in 15.04. Under 15.04 every pages returns a 404 not found ....
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> jackhum  then ask to unblock them
[19:02] <teward> jackhum: ask them to unblock.  if they won't, then you may want a VPN rather than a proxy
[19:02] <teward> so you can connect through the college network to a remote server that then acts as your 'proxy' point
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> jackhum  how legal is what you want to do?
[19:02] <teward> (it also makes you look like the server, to the outside world)
[19:02] <teward> but also that's a valid question, the legality of what you're trying
[19:03] <jackhum> Its very legal , infact everyone in the college uses windows
[19:03] <h4k1m> ioria: thanks again for the links
[19:03] <ioria> h4k1m, no problem
[19:03] <alphagene> jackhum, I suggest using Tor
[19:03] <jackhum> the proxy is really easy to setup in windows , but i am getting a hell lot of trouble to setup it in ubuntu
[19:04] <MonkeyDust> jackhum  why are the sites blocked?
[19:04] <Johnny_Linux> jackhum  https://www.torproject.org/download/download-easy.html.en
[19:04] <alphagene> jackhum, what proxy settings are you meaning?
[19:04] <jackhum> alphagene: i tried tor , and it gets stuck  . on my ubuntu , on windows it is working fine
[19:04] <ioria> h4k1m, if you use vino, you could have some trouble during authentication with a win machine : use this (only on lan) : gsettings set org.gnome.Vino require-encryption false
[19:04] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[19:05] <ubuntu-mate> ping
[19:05] <jackhum> MonkeyDust: you wont believe , me these idiots have blocked every site which has hack word in it
[19:05] <ubuntu-mate> exit
[19:05] <jackhum> even irc clients dont work , i am using irccloud.com to talk to people here
[19:05] <h4k1m> ioria: I need to install vino first
[19:06] <alphagene> If you need to use a http proxy to circumvent your limitation, you can do that in the proxy settings in your browser. Tor works perfect in Linux, I am using it… (Go to the tor page and download the browser bundle) If you ned help just ask
[19:06] <ioria> h4k1m, no, it's installed by default.... go in dash and type vino
[19:06] <Bray90820> So this script I have here runs wether or not the network/destination drive is available
[19:06] <Bray90820> rsync -r -t -p -o -v --progress --delete --ignore-existing -s /data /media/aaron/backup
[19:06] <Bray90820> What I want is for it to check if the drive is available so it doesn't copy everything to my internal drive
[19:07] <jackhum> alphagene: i know , everyone in the world is using it , but i cant make it to work on ubuntu
[19:07] <ioria> h4k1m, it' s a server, not a client
[19:07] <TomyWork> i have a package that downloads stuff via https. for some reason dpkg knocks out https_proxy before running the package's downloader
[19:07] <TomyWork> what could that be?
[19:07] <TomyWork> http_proxy is also not what i entered
[19:07] <h4k1m> ioria: ok, so you would connect to it from windows using remote desktop as usual, right?
[19:08] <ioria> h4k1m, no.... you 'll need tightVNC...
[19:08] <jackhum> i just need to know what is the way of doing things on ubuntu , i know how to setup proxy on my windows , but on ubuntu i am failing really badliy
[19:08] <ioria> h4k1m, tightVNC viewer
[19:08] <TomyWork> ah, there was "Acquire::http::Proxy" in apt.conf but nothing for https
[19:08] <ed_> hi
[19:09] <h4k1m> ioria: I'll try it right now
[19:09] <ioria> h4k1m, you have to configure vino first... with passwd
[19:11] <TomyWork> man, next machine i'm gonna set up myself again... bloody admins
[19:12] <jackhum> teward: ?
[19:13] <TomyWork> basically took them 2 weeks to install stuff i dont need and now i have to figure out what they did in order to fix things up
[19:13] <h4k1m> ioria: ok I set the password with `vino-passwd` now how do I run it?
[19:13] <h4k1m> I mean to start the service...
[19:14] <jackhum> here's my question : http://askubuntu.com/questions/393912/how-to-set-https-proxy-in-privoxy , someone has already asked
[19:14] <ioria> h4k1m, to start it just press close...
[19:15] <ioria> h4k1m, to check   ps -A | grep vino      you should see   vino-server
[19:16] <alphagene> jackhum, what kind of proxy do you have?
[19:16] <jackhum> alphagene: i dont know , https ?
[19:17] <alphagene> Then just open your browser
[19:17] <alphagene> Goto preferences
[19:18] <alphagene> Advanced > Network > Settings... enter https proxy
[19:18] <TomyWork> how does one get an oracle jdk these days?
[19:18] <jackhum> alphagene: i already linked you a question , my problem is same , i know how to setup proxy in my windows , but in ubuntu i have no idea
[19:18] <espagnol> hi guys!, we speak english here right?
[19:18] <TomyWork> my old methods are failing
[19:18] <OerHeks> !java | see this page TomyWork
[19:19] <alphagene> TomyWork, openjdk-8... works perfect for me
[19:19] <Jordan_U> espagnol: Yes, though there are different Ubuntu support channels for many other languages as well.
[19:20] <asad2005> I tried upgrading to 15.10 beta and update-manager failed at package installation two packages failed one is modemmanager and nfs-common now i am stuck how can i undo the changes before i restart?
[19:20] <akik> TomyWork: search for oracle java archive
[19:20] <OerHeks> asad2005, ask in ubuntu+1 until 15.10 is released
[19:21] <jackhum> alphagene: no its not working that way
[19:21] <h4k1m> ioria: actually, what worked for me is `$ /usr/lib/vino/vino-server` to launch it... I verified that the service is listening on port 5900 using `netctl`
[19:21] <ioria> h4k1m,   ps -A | grep vino  ?
[19:21] <TomyWork> OerHeks i can't use a non-oracle jdk. this software is messy
[19:21] <alphagene> jackhum, are you trolling or are you serious? How does your proxy look like you have to configure?
[19:21] <h4k1m> ioria: yes its process is running
[19:22] <OerHeks> TomyWork, your solution is on that page too
[19:22] <jackhum> alphagene: my friend uses tor browser on his ubuntu , and it connects fine to the internet , but the strange thing is he use wine to run tor on ubuntu
[19:22] <ioria> h4k1m,   ok, if th client is a win machine i think that Remote Desktop it's not going to work ... so you need another client
[19:22] <jackhum> alphagene: nope , i am not trolling , i really hate switching to windows
[19:23] <alphagene> jackhum, okay no problem
[19:23] <jackhum> alphagene: do you know how to configure privoxy ?
[19:24]  * jackhum alphagene: i need alternative for this https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CB4QFjAAahUKEwikrsiuwMzHAhWEH44KHVdYCas&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.proxifier.com%2F&ei=QrXgVaSFL4S_uATXsKXYCg&usg=AFQjCNF4fzeE3FcVnBpuF2TTeTmfShM7dw&sig2=kmiKKB371Uf8c5f7W9MrWg
[19:24] <TomyWork> http://bugs.java.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=7108196 resolution: Won't fix -_-
[19:24] <jackhum> oops sorry
[19:24] <OerHeks> TomyWork,  we do not care about oracle bugs :-D
[19:24] <TomyWork> OerHeks i.e. you didnt read it
[19:24] <akik> TomyWork: search for oracle java archive
[19:25] <TomyWork> akik they only have rpms and tar.gzs
[19:25] <TomyWork> no .deb
[19:25] <akik> TomyWork: so?
[19:25] <TomyWork> so i cant install things that depend on java
[19:25] <zagaza> hi guys, I asked this before but I haven't gotten any good answer.. is there any way to send encrypted emails without having to install keys on the reciever end? like, only the server encrypts the email and the reciever doesn't have to do anything.. is there such a thing?
[19:26] <TomyWork> unless i step into a snake pit of having more than one java
[19:26] <OerHeks> TomyWork, don't want too read that, and the wiki gives great solutions for installing oracle blobs
[19:26] <wad> Hey guys, trying to get a laptop working with Ubuntu. It's 14.04 64-bit desktop, with an NVidia 860m in it. It was working great, then an update nuked the video driver somehow. We've been trying to get it back, now it's totally hozed. :(
[19:26] <OerHeks> including howto select the java to use
[19:26] <TomyWork> OerHeks the webupd8 method?
[19:26] <wad> Can no longer CTRL-ALT-F1 to get a prompt even. It just hangs on boot.
[19:27] <TomyWork> that started failing at some point
[19:27] <TomyWork> and anyway i cant use anything past 7u40-ish
[19:27] <wad> We can get a recovery mode root shell prompt. Any ideas?
[19:27] <TomyWork> again, messy software
[19:27] <wad> At this point we just want to recover the ability to boot.
[19:31] <genii> wad: mount -o remount,rw /       ...then I suggest:  update-grub
[19:32] <wad> thanks. Right now we're just trying to get it to a read-write filesystem. :(
[19:32] <muhammaduxama12> hi
[19:33] <Nikesh> I have two laptops, both running 14.10 and Firefox 39, except that the one that should be faster (8GB RAM, 2.17ghz quad core) is terribly slow using Firefox and looking at htop, there is a lot of CPU usage (30-50% on all four cores sometimes).. where I can barely type into a text box. On the older machine (4GB RAM, i3) it is snappy. Any ideas as to why?
[19:34] <Jordan_U> Nikesh: Do both have proper GPU drivers installed?
[19:34] <reisio> muh-die-kuh: hi
[19:34] <Nikesh> Jordan_U: I had a feeling it could be that. I don't know. Can you point me how to check?
[19:35] <h4k1m> ioria: I was able to connect with the remote desktop control of windows as opposed to vncviewer (integrated to tightvnc).
[19:35] <ioria> h4k1m,   how ?
[19:35] <wad> Is there any way, from grub, to boot to a text terminal only?
[19:36] <wad> The hoarked graphics driver on this machine make it freeze on boot.
[19:36] <ioria> h4k1m,   win8 ?
[19:36] <h4k1m> ioria: using vnc any option (port 5900)
[19:36] <h4k1m> no windows 7
[19:36] <TomyWork> blah, add-apt-repository still doesnt work through a proxy
[19:36] <akik> wad: you can boot to single user mode by adding single to the end of kernel line
[19:36] <wad> ok
[19:36] <AEL-H> what is \u003cb? I am very confused. It looks Unicode-ish, does anyone know what this might be?
[19:37] <bekks> wad: And to text mode by replacing single with text.
[19:37] <wad> thanks
[19:37] <reisio> ϋ kewl
[19:38] <reisio> AEL-H: hit CTRL+SHIFT+u, then type 003cb, then ENTER
[19:38] <jhutchins> 003b
[19:39] <jhutchins> 003cb
[19:39] <AEL-H> xd
[19:39] <ioria> h4k1m,   good for you ... i don't find that option ...
[19:39] <jhutchins> Nope.
[19:39] <AEL-H> That is what I was expecting..
[19:39] <poppe> Hi all again :). i try to download sources for a kernel. "I get Invalid operation source" when I use apt source linux-image-3.19.0-26-generic" I dont know what is wrong. i looked at "man apt" and cant see the "source" option. newly installed lubuntu.
[19:39] <jhutchins> Then again, I'm on irssi over ssh from putty on Windows...
[19:39] <h4k1m> ioria: thanks a lot for the help (it's in the list of modules)
[19:39] <alphagene> poppe, apt-get source?
[19:39] <jhutchins> !source
[19:40] <jhutchins> When did apt as a command start being included?
[19:40] <alphagene> wow, I didn't know that apt was a command
[19:41] <OerHeks> poppe, ' sudo apt-get source linux-image-3.19.0-26-generic' work her
[19:41] <AEL-H> reisio: Nothing is happening?
[19:41] <alphagene> no root needed OarHeks
[19:41] <reisio> AEL-H: do it right and something will
[19:41] <ioria> h4k1m,  ok i got it ... it'a another program
[19:41] <AEL-H> reisio: What am I doing wrong ?
[19:42] <ioria> h4k1m,  no problem ... i thought you were using the default one  :-)
[19:42] <reisio> AEL-H: you either aren't doing what I said to do, or you're typing it into some strange window other than your IRC client, or you have zero fonts
[19:42] <reisio> or your system is configured to use some bizarre encoding, etc.
[19:42] <h4k1m> ioria: I have no idea it's my try on rdp and vnc
[19:42] <h4k1m> I'm used to teamviewer
[19:42] <ioria> h4k1m,  ok ^_^
[19:43] <AEL-H> ϋ
[19:43] <AEL-H> omfg lol
[19:43] <reisio> lawlz
[19:43] <reisio> you can actually type just the '3cb'
[19:43] <AEL-H> yeah I noticed the 0's weren't doing anything, why is this?
[19:43] <reisio> though the 0's are likely included in the official codepoint
[19:44] <reisio> 'cause they're leading 0's
[19:44] <AEL-H> ah of course
[19:44] <reisio> some kind GTK+ author decided to spare us the hassle of pointlessly tapping 0
[19:44]  * reisio splits for lunch
[19:44] <AEL-H> but what is the \u about
[19:45] <lucidguy> Is their a decent client for MS Lync on Linux?
[19:46] <wad> Yay, we got command prompt again! With network!
[19:47] <OerHeks> lucidguy, what does ms lync ?
[19:47] <wad> It still crashes on normal boot though.
[19:47] <jhutchins> lucidguy: I thought they deprecated lync in favor of Skype-for-Business.
[19:47] <jhutchins> lucidguy: Traditionally it's been difficult to interface with MS proprietary protocols like that...
[19:49] <espagnol> i cannot use my touchpad. Is there anybody that can help me?
[19:49] <lucidguy> jhutchins: In this office I access their "chat" via OWA.  I can now get my Exchange email via Thunderbird, that leaves my chat ability.
[19:49] <jhutchins> lucidguy: There appears to be a plugin for Pidgin.  Google link for linux and you should have enough to at least give it a try.
[19:49] <TomyWork> is there any reason why a modern OS like ubuntu 14.04 lacks hibernate, btw?
[19:50] <lucidguy> Pidgin .. jezz forgot about that
[19:50] <TomyWork> i know i can enable it, but shouldnt that be kind of a priority to fix and make stable and such?
[19:50] <jhutchins> TomyWork: Ubuntu can hibernate.  If you have a desktop install it might not be installed.
[19:50] <poppe> @ all: thanks!!! One more question if you can bear with me. I know I get a tarball. I get 4 files: .diff.gz (that is the patch i think) .orig.tar.gz (that is the version 0) the .dsc . and a folder linux-3.19.0 (is that the uncompressed tarball from the 0 version?)
[19:50] <MonkeyDust> TomyWork  yes, it should be easier, i agree   http://paste.ubuntu.com/12217167/
[19:51] <Smashcat> Hi, I've got an old 12.10 server that I need to copy all the files from to a NAS. The NAS has rsync, but the server seems to have a broken version of rsync (or they're not compatible) so it just falls over with an error after attempting to transfer the first file. Is there a newer binary for rsync I could use?
[19:51] <TomyWork> jhutchins you said "installed" is there a package?
[19:51] <espagnol> somebody can help me with my touchpad?
[19:51] <espagnol> it doesnt work at all.
[19:51] <TomyWork> or should i take the config file MonkeyDust posted?
[19:51] <bekks> Smashcat: Whats the rsync command you are using?
[19:51] <jhutchins> TomyWork: Not sure if the package is pm-utils or just hibernate, gnome power manager should interface with it.
[19:51] <Smashcat> (the server does have rsyncd running, but it's an old broken version)
[19:51] <TomyWork> using kde
[19:51] <ar> hi. where can i find usb image for installation from a pendrive?
[19:52] <Smashcat> rsync -vr username@<IP_ADDRESS>::video/Movies ./media/
[19:52] <TomyWork> pm-hibernate works fine, but it doesnt show up in the menus
[19:52] <espagnol> hi ar, what do you want to install?
[19:52] <MonkeyDust> ar  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/
[19:53] <bekks> Smashcat: "the server" is your NAS.
[19:53] <espagnol> if you are running Windows, you can download Lili Live Image Creator
[19:53] <MeatPopsicle> So is Ubuntu or Debian more privacy friendly (after disabling the amazon stuff of course)?
[19:53] <Smashcat> bekks: No, the server is the linux box. The NAS is the client, pulling the files across
[19:54] <bekks> Smashcat: So where are you typing in that command?
[19:54] <MoPac> Hello. I'd really like to take better advantage of my multitouch screen in Ubuntu. I'm wondering if there are any alternatives to, or good new controls for, ginn, which has never really worked for me.
[19:54] <espagnol> ar, it will automaticly download your image and makes your usb booteable
[19:54] <Smashcat> bekks: On the NAS - it also runs linux
[19:54] <alphagene> MeatPosicle, Ubuntu is just Debian that works
[19:54] <MoPac> I've started using Easystroke for press-and-hold-to-right-click, butI still can't find a way to, e.g., zoom/scroll with two points
[19:54] <bekks> Smashcat: So try running it on the linux box.
[19:55] <TomyWork> MonkeyDust thanks for that quick guide and sudo -e :)
[19:55] <AEL-H> reisio : Thank you for what you showed me, however, it was just unicode. I wrote it down wrong too, the b was seperate, \u003c is <
[19:55] <AEL-H> it was \u003cb\u003e --> "<b>". Thank you for the interesting aside though :)
[19:55] <TomyWork> very useful
[19:55] <TomyWork> going home now, finally
[19:55] <MonkeyDust> TomyWork  glad i could help
[19:56] <bekks> Smashcat: Since it is a linux box, you can just use the syntax user@host:/path/to/files/ since you have ssh access, too.
[19:56] <reisio> AEL-H: :p
[19:56] <Smashcat> bekks: Works on the linux box. I suspect the version of rsync is incompatible. I'll just use Samba to copy them over I think
[19:56] <bekks> Smashcat: Since it works on the linux box - why do you want to use samba?
[19:56] <ar> MonkeyDust: that takes me to an .iso image which is about as useful for installing onto a usb as xfs is useful for sharing data with windows users
[19:57] <Smashcat> bekks: Because I need to copy from the linux box to the NAS. Not from the linux box to the linux box
[19:57] <bekks> Smashcat: So please try what I suggested.
[19:57] <Smashcat> bekks: Samba is work, so it's all good now :)
[19:57] <Smashcat> *working
[19:58] <MonkeyDust> ar  it's a normal .iso to install ubuntu, everyone uses it, not sure what you mean
[19:58] <AEL-H> Guys, what do you reckon this is ?
[19:58] <AEL-H> "m_en_us1271970.001"
[19:58] <Smashcat> Looks like I need to leave my PC on for 8 hours to copy the files across between the boxes though :))
[19:58] <bekks> ar: dd if=file.iso of=/dev/yourusb
[19:58] <bekks> ar: Thats how "useful" it is.
[19:59] <ar> bekks: you sure? most iso images don't have the required isolinux/syslinux configuration for that
[19:59] <MonkeyDust> AEL-H  it's a line of context-less characters
[19:59] <bekks> ar: 1000% sure, using it for a long time like that.
[19:59] <bekks> ar: ubuntu isos are hybrid images.
[20:00] <ar> ok
[20:00] <Guest55596> compiz
[20:00] <safe_> When did synergy become priced? How else to crossplatform control both linux and windows?
[20:00] <poppe> does anyone know if I get a patched folder after downloading the kernel? I got a text file (stdout) from the event but dont really understand it.
[20:01] <Guest55596> ok sure
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> !info synergy | safe_ find it in the repos
[20:02] <poppe> I think i got it :)
[20:03] <safe_> MonkeyDust: it's paid software though, also on windows
[20:03] <safe_> MonkeyDust: it has always been free
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> safe_  i see no price in the software center
[20:05] <MonkeyDust> safe_  what makes you think it's paid?
[20:05] <wad> Still trying to get this laptop working again. Video drivers got messed up on an update. I can get to a shell prompt, with a rw filesystem. Any ideas on what to do now? The googles show me a bunch of different apt-get commands to try, but they result in "held packages" errors.
[20:06] <safe_> MonkeyDust: It says so on it's homepage, if i want to download it unto windows. Which i understand isn't directly ubuntu-related
[20:06] <wad> When it boots, it shows the "Ubuntu" purple screen, with some dots below it, then it immediately goes black and stays that way.
[20:06] <espagnol> disconnect
[20:07] <wad> We tried install the proprietary nvidia drivers, and tried installing the noeview drivers, and tried some commands to put the drivers back to the original (whatever that was, was working originally).
[20:07] <wad> Nothing works.
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> safe_  sudo apt install synergy does the trick
[20:08] <safe_> MonkeyDust: Cost money on windows (as far as i can tell) and looking for a free alternative
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> safe_  this is ubuntu support, i have no information about windows, ask in ##windows
[20:08] <safe_> MonkeyDust: I understand and i thank you for your help :)
[20:09] <bekks> wad: So you mixed up drivers, right?
[20:09] <wad> Yes, I'm sure they're quite mixed up right now. :(
[20:09] <bekks> wad: So uninstall all traces of your attempts then.
[20:10] <stanley_robertso> hi all
[20:10] <wad> bekks: We tried this:  sudo apt-get auroremove --purge nvidia-*
[20:10] <ablest1980> hi
[20:10] <wad> We now get "not installed, so not removed".
[20:10] <wad> Not sure what else to do for removing that...
[20:10] <bekks> wad: so check that using dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[20:10] <wad> bekks, empty.
[20:10] <wad> :)
[20:11] <wad> Doing the same thing for noveau.
[20:11] <bekks> wad: And how did you install the nvidia drivers?
[20:11] <wad> "apt-get install nvidia-current" I think.
[20:11] <Bashing-om> wad: Optimus ? is old install of BumbleBee a factor ?
[20:11] <bekks> wad: So you did not manually install them by downloading them from nvidia?
[20:12] <wad> The system got messed up due to a normal (gui) update.
[20:13] <bekks> wad: Which doesnt answer my question.
[20:13] <wad> The apt-get nvidia command was done *after* the system was messed up.
[20:13] <wad> Other than the apt-get, we didn't manually download and install any drivers.
[20:13] <wad> Not sure what optimus or bumblebee are...
[20:14] <bekks> wad: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics
[20:14]  * wad clicks
[20:14] <wad> This laptop has the nvidia 860n in it. There is also the video on the i7 chip.
[20:16] <daftykins> wad: pastebin of lspci would suffice. also 'n' isn't a thing
[20:18] <wad> daftykins, here it is: http://wadhome.org/~wad/lspci.txt
[20:18] <daftykins> sorry not looking at your home links :) http://paste.ubuntu.com
[20:19] <wad> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12217372/
[20:19] <wad> For obvious reasons, I'm not on that machine right now. So I just scp the file to my server.
[20:19] <daftykins> mmhmm nvidia 860M optimus setup
[20:20] <daftykins> "pastebinit" is ace in such circumstances
[20:20] <wad> Ah...
[20:20] <daftykins> wad: so what was this update you speak of?
[20:21] <daftykins> wad: also "dpkg -l | grep nvidia | pastebinit" and "dpkg -l | grep bumble | pastebinit" <-- that one should say trying to send blank document
[20:21] <wad> daftykins, the update the killed the box was a normal Ubuntu update.
[20:21] <daftykins> as in a single one, not a release upgrade?
[20:21] <wad> correct
[20:21] <daftykins> and this is what, 15.04?
[20:21] <wad> 14.04 64-bit desktop
[20:21] <Yesid> Hello....
[20:22] <wad> This is the LTS.
[20:22] <Yesid> Hello...!!!!
[20:23] <wad> Thanks for the ideas so far guys. Hopefully we can get this thing working again.
[20:23] <Bashing-om> Yesid: Hello. ubuntu support channel, you have a question ?
[20:24] <daftykins> wad: so can you create those pastebins? you'll need pastebinit installed first of course
[20:24] <Yesid> I would like to know how to format a USB to install Ubuntu...
[20:24] <wad> Oh, sure.
[20:24] <wad> Have to retype the commands over there.
[20:24] <dangoo87> I have downloaded a zip with an experimental driver for a HD game capture device from elgato.  I've extracted the files like so: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12217402/  - I'm not sure how to install it from here, I've tried ./configure etc. but that's clearly not the right answer. Any suggestions?
[20:24] <xangua> !usb | Yesid
[20:24] <wad> They are both empty, daftykins.
[20:25] <wad> We get a couple of entries for nouveau though.
[20:26] <daftykins> wad: that doesn't matter
[20:26] <wad> We're removing them anyway. :)
[20:26] <daftykins> wad: and what's your kernel on this machine?
[20:26] <daftykins> you already had done apparently
[20:26] <wad> pastebin: 12217434
[20:26] <daftykins> make it into a URL
[20:27] <wad> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12217434/
[20:27] <wad> That's the output of `uname -a`
[20:27] <Yesid> thank you.... I'll try
[20:28] <daftykins> wad: ok you're on an ancient kernel, so there's no point even fixing anything up until you're up to date. run a "sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade"
[20:28] <wad> ok!
[20:28] <daftykins> thing is right now your desktop should be coming up fine with just the intel in use, is that not true? no X at all?
[20:28] <wad> Is that "apt" or "apt-get"?
[20:29] <daftykins> i typed it as i did on purpose
[20:29] <TheRealSol> Does anyone have a suggestion for a Launcher that I can use on a X server running on a Windows PC connected to a Ubuntu 15.04 desktop via SSH?
[20:29] <wad> k
[20:29] <wad> just checking.
[20:29] <wad> Commands are running.
[20:29] <alphagene> TheRealsol, dmenu, or what are you meaning with launcher?
[20:30] <dangoo87> !makefile
[20:30] <wad> daftykins, it insists that it's up to date. o_O
[20:31] <daftykins> wad: sudo apt install linux-generic && sudo apt full-upgrade
[20:31] <TheRealSol> basically a simple control that allows access to the apps via a GUI as opposed to constantly needing to use a shell to start apps
[20:31] <alphagene> TheRealSol, ah okay, dmenu is great
[20:33] <TheRealSol> alphagene: that looks like it will do the trick
[20:33] <dangoo87> Does anyone know how I can install the driver from this list of files?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/12217402/  There's no instructions in the readme
[20:35] <wad> `apt install linux-generic` did some stuff, but `apt full-upgrade` said it was up to date. Rebooting now.
[20:35] <bekks> dangoo87: Where did you get that driver from?
[20:35] <dangoo87> bekks, https://github.com/tolga9009/elgato-gchd
[20:35] <dangoo87> it's an experimental driver for an Elgato Game Capture HD device
[20:36] <daftykins> heh
[20:36] <wad> daftykins, okay, so the kernel is still 3.16.
[20:36] <dangoo87> based on videos published, it works, mostly, so I'm assuming it's the answer to 99% of my current problems
[20:37] <wad> It doesn't seem to be able to find anything newer.
[20:37] <ivan_> prog python africa
[20:37] <wad> On the ubuntu machine I'm typing this on (a working one), it's using 3.13.0-62-generic.
[20:38] <alphagene> dangoo87 insmod
[20:38] <Jordan_U> dangoo87: Try simply "make".
[20:38] <dangoo87> alphagene, "error missing file name" - do I need to put a filename after it? do you know which one?
[20:39] <bungle> hi - im looking for some help setting file permissions.  when setting with sudo chown and sudo chmod - the files revert back to original settings within a few seconds
[20:39] <dangoo87> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12217558/
[20:39] <dangoo87> if only it was that easy :(
[20:40] <ivan_> ubuntu web server
[20:40] <ivan_> ^^
[20:40] <wad> I think we're just going to wipe the drive and reinstall.
[20:41] <daftykins> wad: use 14.04.3 media, that install isn't up to date
[20:41] <bungle> what could be changing the file permissions back?
[20:41] <alphagene> dangoo87 write the maintainer
[20:41] <daftykins> bungle: is it even a POSIX file system? perms won't change on FAT/NTFS
[20:42] <bekks> dangoo87: install clang first.
[20:42] <bungle> ive successfully changed them before though
[20:42] <bungle> ubuntu running on vm
[20:43] <bungle> the permission appears to change correctly, but then changes back within a few seconds - no errors thrown
[20:43] <dangoo87> bekks, installing now, then what?
[20:43] <bekks> dangoo87: run make again.
[20:43] <dangoo87> alphagene, I have literally no idea what that is, I'm trying to google but I'm not finding much info, will keep trying to understand that
[20:44] <dangoo87> ok, bekks thanks.
[20:45] <dangoo87> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/12217617/
[20:45] <dangoo87> different error to last time (prior to clang)
[20:45] <bungle> the owner is also changing to root
[20:46] <bekks> dangoo87: Yeah, since now you have installed the missing clang compiler. Now it errors out on missing dependencies. You really have to ask the author.
[20:47] <dangoo87> I see, ok thanks bekks .  There are 2 files in the "Firmware"/ folder, but I think I should just speak to the author then at this stage.  Thanks for your help
[20:47] <OerHeks> bungle, it "cannot change back" to root, as you cannot change ntfs/fat32 permission, as it is not posix. so it never changed. mount it correctly.
[20:47] <TechMonger> hello people
[20:47] <wad> daftykins, thanks for the help, but he's left. Just gonna reinstall.
[20:47] <daftykins> bungle: http://paste.ubuntu.com <-- put there "ls -al" in the path and also "mount"
[20:48] <reisio> 'lo tech
[20:48] <daftykins> wad: "he" ? if we were doing proxy support, don't waste our time in future - make the person come here.
[20:48] <wad> He was sitting next to me.
[20:48] <TechMonger> i am trying to rsync files to and from a fat files system drive and some of the files i want to put on it are too large for the file system
[20:48] <TechMonger> can rsync skip those files?
[20:48] <bekks> TechMonger: No.
[20:48] <TechMonger> xp
[20:48] <daftykins> TechMonger: why not re-do it as exFAT?
[20:48] <wad> I'll pass on the tip on using up-to-date media though, for the reinstall.
[20:48] <TechMonger> i guess i have to
[20:48] <TechMonger> lol
[20:49] <TechMonger> its primaraly windows stuff
[20:49] <bungle> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12217647/
[20:49] <daftykins> bungle: funny there's one of two things i asked for there
[20:50] <TechMonger> i can skip the files if i copy and paste...
[20:50] <bungle>  sorry missed that one - http://paste.ubuntu.com/12217659/
[20:51] <bungle> i dont understand whats different because the server is running on a vm and ive changed file permissions successfully in the past without any issues?
[20:52] <bekks> bungle: Which command did you run?
[20:52] <bungle> to change the permissions?
[20:52] <bekks> bungle: Yes.
[20:52] <EriC^^> TechMonger: rsync has an --exclude feature
[20:53] <TechMonger> hmm
[20:53] <bekks> EriC^^: But that options works on filenames, not file sizes.
[20:53] <TechMonger> boom
[20:53] <TechMonger> lol
[20:53] <daftykins> bungle: maybe you should stop your web server just in case too
[20:53] <bungle> first i ran sudo chown -R www-data:ww-data /var....etc
[20:54] <bekks> bungle: "/var...etc" is too generic. State the exact path please.
[20:55] <bobsteve> Yo
[20:55] <bobsteve> How is it going today?
[20:55] <TechMonger> bueno
[20:55] <bungle> first > sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www/crm/cache/modules
[20:56] <bekks> bungle: And which commands did you run after that?
[20:56] <bungle> then > sudo chmod -R 775 /var/www/crm/cache/modules
[20:57] <bungle> then ls - l   and the owner shows as www-data...... but after a few seconds ls -l shows owner as root
[20:57] <daftykins> those aren't even wise permissions heh
[20:58] <bungle> no but they are needed temporarily while i upgrade suitecrm
[20:58] <bekks> bungle: The owner for symlinks is irrelevant.
[21:01] <bungle> i see - but the write permissions are also changing as well as owner.  what i dont understand is that ive done it this way before so something must have changed i guess
[21:01] <bekks> bungle: And which permissions arent correct now?
[21:02] <daftykins> obviously you've got an overriding process running
[21:02] <Nikesh> Can anyone help me look into whether I have the proper graphics card drivers installed? Here's the output for https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GraphicsTroubleshootingProcedure --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/12217750/
[21:03] <Nikesh> daftykins: Btw, I installed in legacy mode!
[21:03] <daftykins> what a whole bunch of spam
[21:03] <daftykins> just "lspci" would be good
[21:03] <bungle> sorry bekks i thought i understood what you meant about the symlinks owner being irrelevant - and was thinking even though thats the case the write permission should be
[21:04] <bungle> will try stopping the webserver temporarily daftykins
[21:06] <bungle> keeps reverting back even with apache stopped
[21:06] <bekks> bungle: So another process is still running.
[21:06] <daftykins> ^
[21:08] <bekks> bungle: This reverting of permissions - which permissions are set?
[21:11] <bungle> im trying to set permission of /var/www/crm/cache/modules/Users/Uservardefs.php to www-data:www-data with rights of 0775
[21:11] <bungle> and also some other files
[21:11] <Berry> Hey, quick question. I installed a Ubuntu startup disk on my flash drive. I use Unity 14,04 64 bit. The startup disk installed gnome.
[21:11] <Berry> Any reason?
[21:11] <bekks> bungle: Thats not an answer to my question.
[21:12] <bekks> Berry: Any reason for what?
[21:12] <Twirl> Berry: what did u expect?
[21:12] <Twirl> Berry: windows NT?
[21:12] <Berry> Twirl: Well, I run Ubuntu Unity, and it made gnome. I was expecting it to make Unity.
[21:12] <reisio> Berry: what makes you think it's not Unity?
[21:13] <Berry> reisio: Because my main computer is unity, and I know what gnome looks like
[21:13] <Twirl> Berry:  man, unity and gnome are not the same thing
[21:13] <Berry> Twirl: Hence my confusion
[21:13] <Twirl> Berry: nope, they both run on your machine, they are for different things
[21:13] <jeffreylevesque> how can i ensure upstart script starts every boot-up
[21:14] <bekks> Twirl: What different things are Unity and Gnome for?
[21:14] <Twirl> Berry: maybe u want KDE?
[21:14] <Berry> Twirl: Let me re-explain this. I am currently talking in this chat on a computer that is currently running Ubuntu Unity OS. We good on that part?
[21:14] <Berry> Twirl: Using "Startup Disk Creator", a default software, I made a boot disk on my flash drive for
[21:14] <bungle> sorry - not quite sure i understand then - the file has the permission set as rw-r-xr-x
[21:14] <Berry> Twirl: Ubuntu (sent too early)
[21:15] <Berry> Twirl: The ubuntu it installed on the disk, however, was gnome
[21:15] <Twirl> Berry: stop the nonsense man, unity and gnome are for different things
[21:15] <Berry> Twirl: I know they are
[21:15] <EriC^^> Berry: it depends on the .iso you used
[21:15] <bekks> Twirl: For WHICH different things are Unity and Gnome for?
[21:15] <bekks> Twirl: BOTH are desktop environments.
[21:16] <Berry> EriC^^: I used Startup Disk Creator, which uses the current OS that is running... which was Unity
[21:17] <Berry> Don't get me wrong guys, I want Gnome more. I am glad it made gnome, but I am completely baffled as to what on earth happened
[21:17] <Twirl> bekks: i thought he was talking about a different kind of gnome then :\
[21:17] <bungle> is that what you were asking?
[21:17] <Twirl> this will clear things up a bit http://askubuntu.com/questions/333237/difference-between-unity-and-gnome
[21:18] <Twirl> " theUnity shell and GNOME Shell (which are the only things that can be accurately compared)."
[21:18] <EriC^^> Berry: you made a live usb using gnome startup disk creator and it created one with unity? ( or vice versa?)
[21:18] <bekks> bungle: thats 466.  I misread.... yes, I used a gnome iso
[21:20] <Berry> Well, that's the second time I made a fool of myself on this irc in two days
[21:20] <Berry> RIP my reputation
[21:20] <daftykins> you didn't have one :)
[21:20] <Berry> ;(
[21:22] <paulsen> hi, I have a problem with my Ubuntu 14.04 install: Night before last, I ran apt update which installed some generic ubuntu base update, something related to SMB/WINS I think, and some encryption stuff(?). Yesterday, when I booted up, I logged in but Unity doesn't start properly.
[21:22] <paulsen> I tried with unity tweak tool to reset unity, that didn't work
[21:22] <bekks> paulsen: so what exactly did it do?
[21:22] <Berry> paulsen: What do you mean "not properly"?
[21:23] <Twirl> everyone, listen up! berry is a noob!
[21:23] <Twirl> Berry: there u go
[21:23] <bekks> Twirl: You too.
[21:23] <Berry> Twirl: It's true. I so far have trashed two hard drives by using bad commands, at one point chmodding all of "/" to a user that didn't exist because I mistyped the user
[21:23] <bungle> sorry - i think its set as 665 and im trying to set it as 775 - no typo :-)  tried after a reboot - but will check no chmods in queue
[21:24] <paulsen> I see the desktop itself, and that's all. The sidebar isn't loaded up, and the windows I open (by adding shortcuts on the desktop) doesn't have the menubar and icons
[21:24] <bekks> bungle: You "think" its 665?
[21:24] <Twirl> bekks: well i've been using ubuntu for a couple of years now
[21:24] <Twirl> Berry: congrats man
[21:24] <bekks> Twirl: And you didnt know that Gnome is a desktop environment. :)
[21:24] <paulsen> Right now I have booted on live usb to hopefully get it working again, somehow
[21:25] <Twirl> bekks: i already proved i was right,
[21:25] <bungle> -rw-r-xr-x 1 www-data www-data 23773 Aug 28 22:25 Uservardefs.php
[21:26] <Twirl> bekks: "the Unity shell and GNOME Shell (which are the only things that can be accurately compared)." http://goo.gl/tAwi4d
[21:26] <bungle> :) typo
[21:27] <paulsen> I tried deleting .config/dconf/user, I tried resetting unity with the tweak tool, but nothing works
[21:29] <bungle> the owner is no longer changing - but permission is>   http://paste.ubuntu.com/12217990/
[21:30] <joeav> ver rizon
[21:30] <Syg> can someone help me figure out why my ubuntu can't ping anything on the internet?
[21:30] <Jordan_U> Syg: Does "ping <IP_ADDRESS>" succeed or fail?
[21:30] <Syg> i can't ping <IP_ADDRESS>, irc.freenode.net, google.com, netflix.com, nothing
[21:30] <Syg> Jordan_U, no
[21:31] <Jordan_U> Syg: What is the last successful hop from "tracepath <IP_ADDRESS>"?
[21:32] <Syg> 1:  FIOS_Quantum_Gateway.fios-router.home                 0.715ms
[21:32] <Syg> seems to get to the gateway and die
[21:32] <Syg> but somehow i can get on irc?
[21:32] <Syg> can get on skype, aim, jabber
[21:32] <paulsen> ping might be blocked by a firewall?
[21:33] <Jordan_U> Syg: Can other machines access the internet normally?
[21:33] <Syg> Jordan_U, i've had this issue before while other machines worked fine
[21:33] <Syg> also issues with the wifi being super weak at 2 feet from the router
[21:33] <Syg> i think it's an os issue
[21:33] <Forrest_> Hell my friends
[21:34] <Syg> other machines can ping just fine Jordan_U
[21:34] <Nikesh> If anyone can advise, I've posted my question here --> http://askubuntu.com/questions/666951/high-cpu-load-with-only-a-few-programs-open-are-my-gpu-drivers-misconfigured
[21:35] <sproc> Greetings.  Often my print jobs sit in a status of 'Rendering completed' indefinitely until I submit a second job, and then the first one comes out of the printer ...
[21:35] <sproc> ... rather than continuing to submit 2nd jobs to 'push out' the first ones, is there a command to 'flush' the print queue?
[21:36] <Richer> Hello
[21:37] <Richer> Alright, it works, sorry for disturbing you ppl
[21:37] <bungle> nope - the owner finally changed back to root
[21:37] <bungle> -rw-r-xr-x 1 root     www-data 23773 Aug 28 22:36 Uservardefs.php
[21:38] <guidovanrossum> geeeeeeks!!!
[21:38] <bekks> bungle: And why do you want to change them?
[21:38] <wileee> Nikesh, 14.10 is not supported
[21:39] <Wader8> hello
[21:39] <Wader8> I have problems booting USB Ubuntu installer
[21:39] <guidovanrossum> which version are you using?
[21:39] <Nikesh> wileee: I've tried the same on 14.04
[21:39] <Wader8> I used the Pinus Universal USB boot
[21:39] <bungle> because im trying to upgrade my instance of suitecrm using the installer - the installer wont work unless the file permissions are set correctly
[21:39] <Nikesh> wileee: Rather, have the same experience
[21:39] <Wader8> and used the LTS Ubuntu installer
[21:40] <Wader8> sorry not pinus, Pendrive*
[21:40] <daftykins> bungle: what, on a fresh boot?
[21:40] <wileee> Nikesh, means nothing in this context.
[21:40] <bekks> bungle: File permissions of 777 for non-temporary files are the most wrong thing to do.
[21:40] <paulsen> I take it formatting is my only option :/
[21:40] <bungle> it needs the permissions 775 just for the installation
[21:41] <bekks> bungle: Whats the exact message of the installer regarding "wrong" permissions?
[21:41] <Nikesh> wileee: I don't understand. Do I need to install 14.04 to be able to get help on this?
[21:41] <Wader8> oops ... sorry guys i have two identical USBs and used the wrong one :facepalm:
[21:41] <bekks> Nikesh: Either 14.04 or 15.04
[21:42] <daftykins> Nikesh: are you seriously saying after all this drama you were using 14.10? :(
[21:42] <wileee> Nikesh, You need a supported release, look in the chanel header they are shown
[21:42] <alphagene> ;q!
[21:43] <kookaburra-bg> hi
[21:43] <Nikesh> daftykins: I had 14.04, was having graphics problems, so I thought I'd try throwing on 14.10. Then I had problems installing. Now I have 14.10 but still this high CPU load.. so here I go again in a circle :P
[21:43] <wileee> Nikesh, Also comparing the two computers is a waste of time, it has no value, address the one that is the issue.
[21:43] <Bray90820> I have a script here that checks to see if a drive is mounted and tells you if it is or not what I want is a second drive added to the script
[21:43] <Bray90820> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=pRxLpPjC
[21:43] <Bashing-om> paulsen: (RE-)install is the nuclear solution. rarely advised . Need to determine if this is a config issue with unity, or a graphics issue with the desktop . What exactly happens when booting up and expecting to see the desktop ?
[21:43] <Nikesh> wileee: I see. I'm just trying to illustrate my point that what should be a smooth experience is not
[21:44] <Nikesh> In any case, if in order to address this I need to be on 15/14.04, then I'll come back with that..
[21:44] <wileee> Nikesh, your point has no measurable in the real world value is all, this is facts, not it seems like this is happening.. ;)
[21:45] <mac1986> ello
[21:45] <sudormrf> how is the 4k scaling coming along in 15.10?
[21:45] <mac1986> help with irssi?
[21:45] <Syg> Jordan_U, any ideas?
[21:45] <bungle> will have to run the installer to get exact message, but basically there is a check process that runs and then it says 'view files with bad permissions' and lists the files with permissions 0655
[21:45] <Syg> someone suggested checking sel
[21:45] <paulsen> Bashing-om: I (re)boot and come to the login screen. Then I log in, and nothing more really happens. The expected unity bar(?) as well as the top menu bar never loads. I can create shortcuts on the desktop, that's about it. The shortcuts I made are so I can open a file browser and a terminal window.
[21:46] <enitiz> Hi. Is there any way to improve audio? Music goes a bit muffled in my laptop.
[21:46] <Bashing-om> mac1986: There is a dedicated channel for irssi; #irssi ; you may get better results there .
[21:46] <mac1986> thank you!
[21:48] <Bashing-om> paulsen: Now that sounds more like a graphics driver issue, Proprietary driver installed, and in the update process that driver got broke ?
[21:48] <Kermit_> anyone on?
[21:49] <lickalott> hey guys, I just installed 15.04 and I've noticed that my cursor disappears when I go to the top of the screen.  Is there a fix for this or just live with it?
[21:49] <paulsen> Bashing-om: That might be the problem, but there hasn't been any updates to it, to my knowledge. Is it supposed to actually say "nvidia driver" or similar in the update list?
[21:49] <bekks> Kermit_: Anyone on what?
[21:50] <ningu> hi, I have a very general question so please lmk if you need more info. I'd like to be able to run an ubuntu vm on a new windows laptop and am wondering about hardware requirements. am I right that (1) ram is the main requirement, (2) 8GB is probaby enough to run a commandline-only ubuntu vm?
[21:50] <ningu> that is, 8GB on the laptop; not sure how much I'd have to dedicate to the vm.
[21:50] <Kermit_> Hey! I am trying to install Ubuntu 15.04 on my Dell Inspiron and it says that it dosen't finds the kernel. HALP!
[21:50] <Syg> can anyone help me figure out why my ubuntu can't ping <IP_ADDRESS> but can be in this channel?
[21:51] <daftykins> ningu: i'd run 3 desktop VMs with 2GB RAM allocated each atop that just fine.
[21:51] <reisio> ningu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[21:51] <reisio> ningu: it's something like 6.7GB for plain Ubuntu
[21:51] <ningu> daftykins: hehe ok. cool.
[21:51] <Bashing-om> paulsen: IF you are running a proprietary driver - built from the old kernel - then when a new kernel is installed, that driver is broke . Is this a likelu situation ? Should we try: purge and re-install the graphics driver ?
[21:51] <daftykins> Syg: if things work, what's the point?
[21:51] <daftykins> <IP_ADDRESS> is google DNS, pinging it isn't necessary
[21:51] <Bashing-om> likely *
[21:51] <ningu> reisio: you mean storage or ram?
[21:51] <reisio> ningu: storage
[21:51] <Syg> daftykins, because i can't ping anything
[21:51] <reisio> ningu: ram is not an issue
[21:52] <ningu> reisio: oh, I am not worried about storage
[21:52] <ningu> ok
[21:52] <Syg> <IP_ADDRESS> was just a bulletproof control
[21:52] <paulsen> Bashing-om: That seems like a plausible next step. What do I need to do then?
[21:52] <reisio> ningu: it'll work with any amount of ram you give it, but it'll work better the more you give it
[21:52] <ningu> yes, but keep in mind windows will also be running and if windows is taking most of the ram up then ubuntu's 1gb or 2gb of ram will induce swapping
[21:52] <reisio> swapping is normal
[21:52] <Syg> can anyone help me figure out why my ubuntu can't ping any server outside my network but can be in this channel?
[21:53] <reisio> to put it into perspective, I used to virtualize OSes with less than a gig of ram for the entire host
[21:53] <ningu> that may be, but I'd like to not thrash too much... but this laptop will have an ssd so maybe that won't be a big deal, I dunno
[21:53] <reisio> it's not an issue
[21:53] <daftykins> Syg: what system?
[21:53] <reisio> ningu: nah
[21:53] <reisio> you'll probably replace the computer before the ssd gives out
[21:53] <ningu> I am talking about speed really, not failure
[21:53] <Bashing-om> paulsen: K; lets look at the hardware, see what driver is required . ' sudo ubuntu-drivers devices ; sudo ubuntu-drivers list ' These commands are valid for 14.04 + ,
[21:53] <Syg> daftykins, 15.04
[21:53] <reisio> moreover if you worry about writes on an ssd, you kind of nullify the point of having them
[21:54] <reisio> ningu: as it relates to... swapping?
[21:54] <daftykins> Syg: desktop or server?
[21:54] <Syg> daftykins, desktop
[21:54] <daftykins> Syg: and behind a home router? are you saying you can't reach websites?
[21:54] <paulsen> Bashing-om: I know I have an nvidia NVS3100M card
[21:54] <Syg> daftykins, yes, no websites, behind verizon quantum fios router
[21:55] <ningu> reisio: yes. in my experience windows and os x can both nearly grind to a halt if they don't have enough ram, so I just want to be sure I won't be dragging the whole machine down with the vm. it isn't really a question of how much ubuntu needs but how much windows needs
[21:55] <Syg> daftykins, laptop right next to this one hardwired to the same router/modem works FINE pings and can visit anything
[21:55] <ningu> maybe I am in the wrong channel ;)
[21:55] <paulsen> Bashing-om: There are 4 options listed; nvidia-304, nvidia-331-updates, nvidia-304-updates, nvidia-331
[21:56] <ningu> I have a friend with an old (3-4 years) laptop that he recently 'upgraded' to win 10 and the whole machine is apparently much slower. just trying to avoid that sort of situation.
[21:57] <ningu> I assume it's due to increased ram requirements rather than win 10 being lousy but who knows :)
[21:57] <bcooke1> I need help
[21:57] <ningu> we all need help
[21:58] <Bashing-om> paulsen: Never heard of that one . Do you know how to use pastebin ? I get some additional info from you and do the research to see what we are going to do // 331 driver goes back a ways .
[21:58] <daftykins> Syg: share a full "route -n" and "ip a" on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[21:58] <paulsen> Bashing-om: You want the entire output from the above commands?
[21:58] <paulsen> or rather, the first one.
[21:58] <Syg> daftykins, i can't get to paste.ubuntu.com to do that...
[21:58] <reisio> ningu: 8GB is on the order of 4-8 times more RAM than you need
[21:58] <Syg> i guess i can use a thumbdrive :/
[21:59] <daftykins> Syg: i know. you're going to type it out.
[21:59] <reisio> ningu: I'd leave half for the host, unless you're using the guest for some kind of low-intensity idle processing
[21:59] <Syg> can you get me the ip for paste.ubuntu.com?
[21:59] <Syg> that might connect
[21:59] <reisio> then you can give the guest even less and not care
[21:59] <Syg> seeing as i'm on irc
[21:59] <ningu> reisio: ok cool. thanks
[21:59] <daftykins> Syg: no, you have two systems, do some work.
[21:59] <Bashing-om> paulsen: O "thinl" the 1st will give me the relevant info to do the loo;n about .. That ole of a card, not sure . can try and see what ' sudo ubuntu-drivers devices ' relates .
[21:59] <reisio> anyway, ram won't be an issue :)
[22:00] <reisio> you can possibly save some storage space by starting with a lighter variety of Ubuntu
[22:00] <reisio> xubuntu, lubuntu, server
[22:00] <Bashing-om> "think"*
[22:00] <bxx> When requiring more privileges, I got an 'Authentication required' window asking for 'Administrator' password instead of mine.
[22:00] <bxx> What is the application responsible for this ? Of course 'Administrator' does not exists, and authentication fails:
[22:00] <bxx> polkit-agent-helper-1[2074]: pam_unix(polkit-1:auth): authentication failure; logname= uid=1000 euid=0 tty= ruser=root rhost=  user=root
[22:00] <bxx> Also even by setting a root password and typing it, authentication always fails
[22:00] <ningu> reisio: yeah, I've run ubuntu on very small amounts of ram before, with decent success. I'll look into those distros
[22:00] <paulsen> Bashing-om: http://pastebin.com/50q1uHsY
[22:01] <ningu> basically all I need is perl, python, build-essential, basic unix utils, some perl and python modules
[22:01] <Bashing-om> paulsen: Look'n at your http://pastebin.com/50q1uHsY . Be back soonest .
[22:02] <bcooke1> I've got a question about mirroring a root disk
[22:02] <ningu> cygwin is another option but a real ubuntu install is preferable for various reasons
[22:03] <daftykins> ningu: so... get to it?
[22:04] <ningu> daftykins: hehe I will, still need to order the laptop(s) for work, basically just wanted to sanity check the specs
[22:05] <Wader8> hello
[22:05] <bcooke1> exit
[22:06] <ningu> one of our employees wants to just use ubuntu and we're getting a system76 laptop, I'm curious how that will turn out
[22:06] <Wader8> Ubuntu doesn't boot and causes my PC to go into emergency shutdown
[22:06] <Wader8> this is just weird
[22:07] <Wader8> I have win10 and linux mint installed on the HDD i want to install Ubuntu over the Linux Mint
[22:07] <reisio> ningu: should turn out nicely for them
[22:07] <Hootch> Wader8: make a clean install and be happy
[22:08] <lickalott> hey guys, I just installed 15.04 and I've noticed that my cursor disappears when I go to the top of the screen.  Is there a fix for this or just live with it?
[22:08] <Wader8> Hootch it doesn't boot
[22:08] <Wader8> from the USB
[22:08] <Bashing-om> paulsen: Nvidia recommends the 340 version driver ( huh ?) / Let's try this ' sudo apt-get purge nvidia* ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' See what the package manager recommends . And install the driver .
[22:08] <Hootch> Wader8: bios boot options checked?
[22:09] <Wader8> black screen, then I reset the PC, and then the PC reset itself again (usually that's a overclocking failsafe)
[22:09] <jdvs> i'm having an issue getting any package to install: http://pastie.org/pastes/10382455/text
[22:09] <paulsen> Bashing-om: I take it I have to boot back to normal to do that? I'm on live usb now you see
[22:09] <jdvs> how can i fix that?
[22:10] <Wader8> Hootch this is after ubuntu boot screen, i tried the live and installer option, nothing
[22:10] <Hootch> Wader8: can you make a new usb image or boot a dvd?
[22:10] <Bashing-om> paulsen: Yeah, ya want to do this from the install . You can get a console @login screen ( ctl+alt+F1 ) .. yes ?
[22:11] <Wader8> hootch well i'll try on a DVD then
[22:11] <paulsen> Bashing-om: yes, but I can also launch a terminal from a desktop shortcut I made, hehe. I'll reboot and come back in here!
[22:11] <Wader8> I just need to get ZFS running for my backup archival HDD
[22:12] <Bashing-om> paulsen: Good deal. I await the result .
[22:12] <Wader8> i wanted to try FreeBSD but i'm not sure why is memstick and DVD images so varying in size, the download is slow, I cancelled the DVD download as it's going super slow
[22:13] <daftykins> Wader8: single HDD? :P
[22:15] <quinnwizard> howdy all :)
[22:16] <Wader8> daftykins yes
[22:16] <daftykins> Wader8: that's ridiculous :)
[22:16] <paulsen> alright, let's see what happens..
[22:16] <Hootch> Wader8: for all this things - relax, make a tea etc., relax
[22:16] <Wader8> well i have a lot of HDDs but when I go into win10 or linux mint i use a separate HDD
[22:16] <Wader8> I use Win7 mainly which is on a SSD
[22:16] <Wader8> and I hoped I could use ZFS file system for my new 2TB WD Green i just got today
[22:17] <daftykins> oh dear not a green
[22:17] <daftykins> ZFS on single disk seems pointless
[22:17] <paulsen> Bashing-om: it seems to be 340 it wants now yeah =)
[22:17] <ningu> hmm... I thought ZFS had features that made it attractive even on single disks but I have no idea
[22:20] <Wader8> brb restarting router
[22:22] <paulsen> Bashing-om: it installed, I rebooted. It didn't work (so far at least)
[22:22] <usuario> adriano
[22:23] <mzgnr> Hi everyone. I bought a macbook air 2015. I know that this is ubuntu channel but I want to know your experience for macbook air.
[22:23] <supusr> anyone know anything about point linux?  Reliable?  Supported?  Secure?
[22:23] <ningu> what experience?
[22:23] <mzgnr> Installation, dualt booting, driver issues ningu
[22:24] <k1l> supusr: ask in ##linux if its not an official ubuntu version
[22:24] <supusr> ok
[22:24] <ningu> iirc there are wiki pages on installing ubuntu on apple hardware
[22:24] <ningu> for example https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir
[22:25] <mzgnr> I know there are wiki pages. I've been arch user :) But It might be useful to know experience
[22:25] <Wader8_> back
[22:27] <Bashing-om> paulsen: Shucks, OK .. Lry's see what the system says when we re-configure unity . Do in terminal ' sudo service lightdm stop ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity-greeter ; sudo service lightdm start ' Does the desk top start ?
[22:29] <Wader8_> anything bad using one disk with ZFS ?
[22:29] <Wader8_> you guys think it's unneded ?
[22:30] <paulsen_> Bashing-om: just ran it, still no joy :/
[22:31] <Bashing-om> paulsen_: well.. next is ' rm ~/.dmrc ' (again) see if that has a positive result when rebooted .
[22:32] <paulsen_> Bashing-om: there's no such file
[22:33] <Bashing-om> paulsen_: Strange ( file should exist as you have rebooted) . Think'n .
[22:34] <Bashing-om> paulsen_: Let's run ' sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop ' see if now the desk top will start .
[22:35] <paulsen_> Bashing-om: I assume a reboot is necessary after that too?
[22:35] <Bashing-om> paulsen_: Yeah .. Let's reboot to make sure the change propagates.
[22:35] <paulsen_> brb
[22:37] <zorkata> I installed my ubuntu but I have Windows 7 why my pics displays which operating system to let the restart and how to fix it
[22:37] <the_coun1> Bashing-om: Back... All seems in working order now except for two/three finger clicks, two finger scroll, etc...
[22:38] <zorkata> help me
[22:38] <daftykins> zorkata: be patient, your question doesn't make much sense in English
[22:39] <paulsen> Bashing-om: Damn it, that didn't work either
[22:42] <the_count> Bashing-om: I was disconnected in case you responded.
[22:42] <zorkata> with Windows 7 but I put on and restart ubuntu but not showing me what OS to ask
[22:43] <daftykins> !bootrepair
[22:43] <daftykins> zorkata: ^
[22:44] <macbash_> channel to help me with irssi suggestions?
[22:44] <daftykins> what?
[22:45] <Bashing-om> paulsen: OK. last thing I know to try ' dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ ; unity --reset-icons ; setsid unity ' . See what results . ( mauy have to install dconf ) .
[22:45] <EriC^^> paulsen: what's up?
[22:45] <zorkata> with Windows 7 but you've installed and ubuntu
[22:46] <zorkata> but restart not show me which OS to ask
[22:46] <Bashing-om> the_count: "xserver-xorg-input-synaptics" installed completely ?
[22:46] <the_count> macbash_ THere is #irssi, or as first resort, irssi.org
[22:46] <daftykins> zorkata: you don't make any sense.
[22:46] <the_count> Bashing-om: It said that it was the newest version
[22:47] <EriC^^> zorkata: sometimes ubuntu doesn't pick up windows and you have to add it manually
[22:47] <Bashing-om> the_count: 'dpkg -l xserver-xorg-input-synaptics ' comes back with "ii" as the status ?
[22:48] <the_count> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12218572/
[22:48] <zorkata> how to add
[22:49] <the_count> zorkata: What os is it booting into?
[22:49] <EriC^^> zorkata: try sudo update-grub first
[22:49] <Bashing-om> the_count: Yepper, it is installed. If now you have touch pad issues, Beyond my knowledge to assist further .
[22:50] <the_count> Bashing-om: Thank you, and would you reccomend anyone to ask?
[22:52] <Bashing-om> the_count: No, I can make no recommendation as I do not know any who have experience with a touch pad / Reprase the question and ask of the channel in general .
[22:53] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, thank you Sir, and have a good day!
[22:53] <Bashing-om> the_count: :) People such as yourself make it so .
[22:53] <the_count> BAshing-om: Good, have a good one. :D
[22:55] <billp> hi, is there a way to get rid of the overlay that pops up in ubuntu gnome when the screen times out - I have tried disabling all lock screens but ...
[22:56] <paulsen> Bashing-om: I tried your last command, it gave some output but was hanging for a really long time at a point, several minutes went by. I hit Ctrl+C and it says something along the lines of "dconf connection refused"
[22:56] <paulsen> Bashing-om: I  assume that is an error ouput when interrupting the job
[22:57] <the_count> Bashing-om: Ok, the settings I had entered before upon install had been overwritten, so I will have to add them again. :D
[22:58] <dresuer> Hi all!
[22:58] <EriC^^> paulsen: login loop?
[22:58] <EriC^^> no desktop icons?
[22:58] <paulsen> EriC^^: no, unity doesn't work. I login, and unity doesn't start/work.
[22:58] <EriC^^> does it work with the guest account?
[22:58] <paulsen> I'll give it a try, gotta reboot tho
[22:59] <EriC^^> ok
[23:00] <Bashing-om> PaulCapestany: At this point, might be of benifit to update and clean the system up, Then see what state the package manager is in .
[23:01] <paulsen> EriC^^: I'm in the guest account now, and it works just fine here
[23:01] <leverquin_> hello  i just broke my system settings. first icon on left vanished second when i try to click on system setting on top right corner won't open. i am on 14.04
[23:01] <EriC^^> paulsen: ok, it's a user config issue then
[23:02] <EriC^^> paulsen: press ctrl+alt+f1, login, and type rm -r .compiz , then press alt+f7 to get back here, try to login to your user from the top right corner
[23:03] <EriC^^> paulsen: if it doesn't work,
[23:03] <dresuer> I've a big problem with all distributions of GNU/Linux. No matter what distribution I using. When I connect my Ethernet cable, after a seconds my machine reset.
[23:03] <dresuer> Why!?
[23:03] <EriC^^> you can always type sudo service lightdm restart in ctrl+alt+f1 to reset the login screen
[23:04] <Smashcat> Dresuer: Probably a hardware incompatibility problem
[23:04] <MonkeyDust> dresuer  this is ubuntu support, type /j #linux for general linux support
[23:04] <EriC^^> paulsen: also type rm -r ~/.config/compiz-1
[23:06] <Yuken> How exactly would I allow all workspaces to be displayed at once?
[23:07] <paulsen_> EriC^^: just tried removing .compiz - it didn't work either
[23:08] <EriC^^> paulsen_: try ~/.config/compiz-1 and later ~/.config or ~/.gconf
[23:08] <paulsen_> EriC^^: hehe, I'll give them all a try
[23:08] <EriC^^> paulsen_: try mv ~/.config ~/.config.old
[23:09] <Bashing-om> paulsen: EriC^^ Permissions in /home ?
[23:11] <Guest33135> installed his ubuntu but not run restart
[23:11] <Guest33135> http://blog.en.uptodown.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/2/files/2013/01/Install-Ubuntu-and-Windows-8.jpg
[23:12] <Guest33135> help
[23:12] <true-techie> does anyone know why upstart is not creating the log for my service inside var/log/upstart/ ? the only thing relating to my service are .gz files in this format myservice.log.1
[23:13] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: who knows
[23:15] <Guest33135> Do not give me that
[23:15] <Guest33135> http://blog.en.uptodown.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/2/files/2013/01/Install-Ubuntu-and-Windows-8.jpg
[23:15] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Done most all I can think of . If there are problems removing unity config files, all I can come up with is a permissions kind of thing .
[23:16] <Guest33135> how to fix it
[23:16] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: i don't think he has problems removing them
[23:16] <Emulator> hello everyone
[23:16] <EriC^^> did i miss that?
[23:16] <bazhang> !patience | Guest33135
[23:17] <Emulator> is this place where to look for ubuntu, xubuntu help? :)
[23:18] <EriC^^> Bashing-om: i think he was talking about unity not working still
[23:18] <Bashing-om> EriC^^: Naw, do not think you missed anything.  Seems I am reading more into it "  EriC^^: just tried removing .compiz - it didn't work either " .
[23:20] <Emulator> i hope this is right place. well i want to install xubuntu alongside with windows. problem is that xubuntu dont see hdd on my system, there is no error or anything just gparted scaning my pc for 5min now
[23:22] <Bashing-om> Emulator: UEFI system, and did you boot up in CCSM mode ?
[23:22] <MonkeyDust> Emulator  are you in ubuntu now, a live session?
[23:22] <EriC^^> Emulator: sometimes stray gpt confuse the installer, grab your disk's name from sudo parted -l, and type sudo fixparts /dev/sdX
[23:22] <Emulator> im on live usb. and im not sure if i have uefi
[23:23] <MonkeyDust> Emulator  what's the outcdome of   lsblk   <-- use a pastebin
[23:26] <Emulator> MonkeyDust, hers the paste http://pastebin.com/0h49JiGL
[23:28] <Emulator> MonkeyDust, it seems like it detect drive this way but why gparted failing?
[23:28] <EriC^^> Emulator: try sudo parted -l
[23:30] <Emulator> now console thinking long
[23:30] <Emulator> terminal that is
[23:30] <EriC^^> ok, try sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[23:32] <Emulator> Cannot open /dev/sda
[23:32] <Emulator> weird
[23:33] <MonkeyDust> Emulator  with sudo
[23:34] <Emulator> nop, it stuck again
[23:34] <EriC^^> Emulator: try sudo blkid -p /dev/sda
[23:34] <OneM_Industries> I am attempting to set up a pair of bluetooth headphones, but they will not play sound. I cannot find them in the sound settings, and I am not sure what I would need to do to get them to work.
[23:35] <OneM_Industries> They show up under bluetooth devices, but that is it. I am not sure if I have the stream2ip package, as it is not showing up in the Synaptic Package Manager.
[23:36] <Emulator> and that do nothing too. well i guess i need to check bios to make sure thers everything like should be
[23:36] <Emulator> tnx for trying to help guys
[23:37] <EriC^^> Emulator: give sudo fixparts /dev/sda a shot
[23:37] <OneM_Industries> And now, oddly enough, they will connect, then disconnect after a couple of seconds.
[23:38] <OneM_Industries> Repairing them with the computer does not help.
[23:38] <Emulator> EriC^^, how long it should take?
[23:38] <MonkeyDust> OneM_Industries  in a terminal type this, do you see anything disturbing   alsamixer
[23:38] <EriC^^> almost instantly
[23:38] <Saku9> hey guys, can anyone help me, for some reason ctrl + left mouse click launches an xterm terminal session, currently running ubuntu 12.04 lts
[23:39] <Saku9> i have no idea why
[23:39] <Emulator> EriC^^, got loading mbr data text and nothing more
[23:39] <OneM_Industries> What do you mean by disturbing?
[23:39] <EriC^^> Emulator: no stray gpt data?
[23:40] <Emulator> EriC^^, no just says loading mbr from /dev/sda and thats it
[23:40] <OneM_Industries> And they are still connecting then disconnecting from the computer...
[23:41] <EriC^^> Emulator: odd
[23:42] <Emulator> EriC^^, ill switch to win and check manuall how to config win 10 for duallboot again. i think i mised something somewhere
[23:43] <EriC^^> ok
[23:44] <apb1963> Is anyone using pipelight on ubuntu 14.04 with firefox?   I can't get it installed and working.  #pipelight is apparently dead, despite all the corpses littering the channel.
[23:44] <daftykins> apb1963: trying to use something like netflix? you're years too late
[23:44] <apb1963> daftykins: no
[23:45] <OerHeks> chrome, is the answer
[23:45] <daftykins> apb1963: an explanation would be handy then
[23:45] <apb1963> daftykins: I'm trying to use a county website, who in their infinite wisdom decided that one must be an MS lover to use their site.
[23:45] <apb1963> OerHeks: chrome does not work with silverlight
[23:46] <daftykins> so it's using some kind of silverlight content?
[23:46] <apb1963> daftykins: correct
[23:46] <OneM_Industries> Anyone have an idea why these headphones connect then almost instantly disconnect?
[23:47] <apb1963> daftykins: and I have no choice.  If I want their info. - and I do - I must use something that understands silverlight and can render it.
[23:47] <MonkeyDust> OneM_Industries  try blueman for better connection
[23:48] <poppe> in lubuntu, does someone know how to redirect sound through a display port (nvidia gtx 960 proprietary driver) to my monitor w speakers?
[23:48] <jdvs> i'm hoping someone here might be able to help me fix this problem i'm having with apt: http://pastie.org/pastes/10382455/text
[23:48] <daftykins> apb1963: heh i'd sooner VM Windows to get the job done, a native solution is a waste of effort
[23:49] <apb1963> daftykins: yeah, only problem is my cpu doesn't have vt-d or vt-x
[23:49] <daftykins> apb1963: that's not even necessary
[23:49] <apb1963> daftykins: it is for VM
[23:50] <daftykins> no. it is not.
[23:50] <daftykins> it simply accelerates it, it doesn't stop it being possible
[23:52] <apb1963> well, it was quite a while ago since I tried it... I don't remember the exact issue, but I do know I got halted by not having vt-{d,x}...  I was trying to setup a machine to for an android VM and I couldn't do it.  Maybe it was restricted to that app, as I say... I don't recall the precise issue.
[23:52] <daftykins> depends on the virt tech you try and use
[23:53] <daftykins> but no, it's not a thing - which CPU model exactly?
[23:53] <OneM_Industries> MonkeyDust: I tried using blueman, for some reason it says "Device added successfully, but failed to connect." Any ideas?
[23:53] <apb1963> daftykins:  Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     E7500  @ 2.93GHz
[23:54] <daftykins> i'm sure something like qemu would work
[23:54] <Aleepor> do i need to create a swap particion in the instalation of ubuntu? is that required? what benefits swap particion has?
[23:55] <apb1963> daftykins: I did not try qemu... I tried virtualbox if memory serves.
[23:55] <Jordan_U> daftykins: qemu without kvm is so slow as to be basically unusable for most purposes.
[23:55] <daftykins> Aleepor: ability to sleep, hibernate... ability for machine not to grind to a halt
[23:55] <Ben64> Aleepor: you only need swap if you have low ram, or want to hibernate
[23:56] <Bashing-om> Aleepor: 8 Gigs of ram, one can maybe do without - if you do not hebernate. But a swap partition is cheap insurance to help take the load of the processor .
[23:56] <daftykins> Jordan_U: i don't know how those fit together- but i'm not the helpee here.
[23:57] <MonkeyDust> OneM_Industries  no, is it with the earphones only?
[23:57] <Aleepor> i have 6gb and it fits me, so i wont create
[23:57] <Aleepor> thanks
[23:57] <Jordan_U> apb1963: Please pastebin the output of "sudo kvm-ok".
[23:57] <OneM_Industries> I don't have any other bluetooth devices, so not sure.
[23:57] <apb1963> Aleepor: if, like me... you typically have 35-50 browser windows open, and a buttload of other things running, along with multiple desktops and virtual machines, then you might run short on RAM, at which point the CPU will need a swap partition, to swap out those processes not actively running to make room for more processes.
[23:58] <Ben64> Aleepor: 6 is a bit low for no swap
[23:58] <Jordan_U> apb1963: If you don't have kvm-ok then "sudo apt-get install cpu-checker" first.
[23:58] <apb1963> Jordan_U: read my mind... working onit
[23:59] <apb1963> Jordan_U:
[23:59] <apb1963> INFO: /dev/kvm exists
[23:59] <apb1963> KVM acceleration can be used


[02:12] <happyaron> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-May/037074.html
[03:17] <jzheng> FJKong, happyaron: if you like, you can also get 27 TB cloud storage from 360 for free from http://huodong.yunpan.360.cn/xt
[03:17] <happyaron> \o/
[08:54] <happyaron> JackYu https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1197220
[08:54] <happyaron> the review is at https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/ubiquity/use-RELEASE-instead-of-Ubuntu-more/+merge/171000
[10:09] <hulu> 大家好
[10:09] <hulu> JackYu: 你好
[10:11] <FJKong> hulu: hi
[10:11] <hulu> FJKong: 你好
[10:12]  * hulu 找 JackYu 请教个问题


[05:34] <DonkeyHotei> !help
[05:34] <DonkeyHotei> no bot...
[05:35] <DonkeyHotei> is there any hope of a ppa with dkms'ed drivers for the Ceton InfiniTV?
[05:43] <tgm4883> DonkeyHotei, doubtful, as none of the mythbuntu developers have that card. Is there info/instructions on that somewhere?
[05:44] <DonkeyHotei> http://cetoncorp.com/infinitv_support/linux_drivers/
[05:46] <tgm4883> hmm, no license info
[05:47] <tgm4883> without some license info, it's pretty difficult for us to put it on a PPA
[05:47] <DonkeyHotei> there's no copyright statement, either. the module signature says "GPL v2"
[05:48] <tgm4883> I won't say it's not going to happen, but it's not exactly at the top of our todo list
[05:50] <DonkeyHotei> kernel updates would make the device a pain otherwise, and it's one of only three such things mythtv supports
[14:41] <qwebirc920> I have a question about mythbuntu.  It might be more related to ubuntu and vlc.
[14:53] <rhpot1991> qwebirc920: better to just ask your question and wait for a response
[14:53] <rhpot1991> people come and go here
[14:53] <qwebirc920> I have the basic mythbuntu installation 12.04 with frontend and backend on same laptop.  Right after I installed it, I tried to play a DVD for the first time. I was prompted with a dialog asking what to   do with the file.  I VLC and checked "do not ask again".  Later, when i learned a little more about mythtv, I   noticed that when I put a DVD in (while in the mythtv front-end) that that mythtv would open vlc and begin   pl
[14:54] <qwebirc920> But it appears that ubuntu is also opening vlc and playing the same file.  My question is; How do I undo the ubuntu auto run of the dvd?
[15:07] <gregL> qwebirc920, I believe if you look under frontend set up,then General the 4th screen in uncheck Media monitor...
[15:20] <qwebirc920> Thanks for responding greg.  It was not checked.  If I select play optical disk in Mythtv, it plays the video in the mythtv front-end interface.  But VLC appears to launch directly from ubuntu.
[15:21] <qwebirc920> Consequently the same video is playing twice (at the same time).
[15:43] <qwebirc920> Ok.  New information.  It looks VLC is being launched by ubuntu.  The association is user specific.  I created another user and tested it.  before launching mythtv front end, I inserted a DVD.  A dialog displayed asking what to do.  I selected nothing (do same in future).  Of course VLC did not launch.  When I started the frontend and selected play DVD, only one video was playing.  In the other user, I selected to play VLC e
[15:46] <qwebirc920> It looks like I am running xcfe4.  I do not see any associations listed in the "drives and media" interface dialog.  What else might be launching vlc when a dvd is inserted?
[16:51] <qwebirc59292> Mythbuntu install 12.04.2  - xfce4 : question about thunar "removable drives and media".  On a new installation, the first time I inserted a DVD I was prompted with a dialog asking what to do.  I chose open VLC with the option to not ask again.  I now want to change the setting so that upon inserting a DVD nothing executes.  However, the on the Multimedia tab of Thunar volman (gui), there is nothing set, the text box is gr
[16:53] <qwebirc59292> Is there a configuration file I can update manually to remove the entry to lauch VLC when a DVD is inserted?
[17:13] <SteveGoodey> qwebirc59292: http://www.randommadness.co.uk/support/19-xubuntu-1110-vlc-default-media-player-thunar. Any use?


[00:52] <ibeardslee> what is the difference between a scope and a lense?
[18:05] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:49] <kcj[work]> Morning.
[20:50] <ajmitch> morning