[08:32] <der_On> Shazburg: what if i accidently dropped it onto trash and now if i want to open trash, it says: The folder contents could not be displayed.
[08:32] <Neroon> @neil hm
[08:32] <Shazburg> der_On: That would be a bad thing.
[08:32] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: What should I write in this file?
[08:33] <der_On> maybe recovery?
[08:33] <Shazburg> der_On: What filesystem are you using?
[08:33] <Bundestrojaner> how can i install an older version of nvidia-glx? the newest version in apt doesn't support geforce 4
[08:33] <Neroon> @staticrails you shouldnt need to add anything. but the first line should be your install media
[08:33] <ActionParsnip1> CorpX: putty -log ~/newLogFileName
[08:33] <der_On> Shazburg: the folder was on an ntfs file-system
[08:33] <Neroon> @staticrails it might have an # in front of it
[08:34] <Shazburg> der_On: This might suck then. Hold on a sec.
[08:34] <DaveTarmac> Hi folks - having a bit of a dumb morning, how do I create a tar.gz file that includes all files in a dir, including hidden files?
[08:34] <neil> I tried it yesterday and it allowed a a higher resolution but the aspect ratio wasn't correct to fit correctly on 15.5 inch wide screen correctly and when I reloaded unbuntu today it was back to normal with the maximum at 800x600
[08:34] <Slart> Bundestrojaner: use the hardware drivers dialog thingy.. it has older versions as well
[08:34] <der_On> Shazburg: ive already opened the terminal and found out there is a ntfsundelete command. I think i need to unmount the drive first, cause it says that the drive is in use.
[08:34] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: the top line shold mention the install media, uncomment it and save the new fike. then have the device attatched and run: sudo apt-get update
[08:34] <DaveTarmac> I tried "tar -czvf nameoffile.tar.gz ."
[08:34] <CorpX> ActionParsnip1, i want to start a new log file in the middle of a session
[08:34] <ActionParsnip1> CorpX: man putty      is goooood :)
[08:34] <billy> wow i like record my desktop :D
[08:35] <spikemcc> hi ?
[08:35] <ActionParsnip1> CorpX: not sure then dude
[08:35] <spikemcc> !paste
[08:35] <der_On> Shazburg: i found it! it was on the same drive under .Trash-0/files
[08:35] <billy> i recorded 4 mins with music and it was only 15mb
[08:35] <Shazburg> der_On: Congratulations.
[08:35] <DaveTarmac> but when I did that, it seemed to copy EVERY file and folder within the folder and prefix them with ._
[08:36] <der_On> Shazburg: it was my damn project folder!!! My heart nearly stopped
[08:36] <der_On> Shazburg: thank you anyway.
[08:36] <ActionParsnip1> der_On: couldve restored from backup if anything went wrong
[08:36] <Shazburg> der_On: I'll take a problem like this over a real one any day. For the future, take a look at TimeVault: http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/150600
[08:37] <spikemcc> http://paste.ubuntu.com/218658/ can you check theses errors I need numby package I think
[08:37] <haanuj> my 3D effects are not permanent plzz tell me what to do
[08:38] <Revo> anyone know how to remove all proxy settings that where set in gnome prefs from ubuntu from SSH command line only?
[08:38] <Flannel> spikemcc: try sudo apt-get install python-numpy
[08:39] <ActionParsnip1> Revo: if you run:   echo $http_proxy
[08:39] <neil> I'm sorry to go on about this but has anyone got any ideas on why the resolution isn't working. It's just that I am looking to move to a linux OS permanently but I want to try using it on my windows system first and I really can't use it properly if I only have a small window sized display
[08:39] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: tar cfv test.tar test/
[08:39] <ActionParsnip1> Revo: does it show
[08:39] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Will grab everything in the directory, including hidden files.
[08:39] <dsotr> hey guys, once I found a website about command line - programs, does anybody know it, I can't remember the website address...
[08:39] <ActionParsnip1> neil: what is the output of:   lspci | grep -i vga
[08:39] <fwaokda> how can i find all the ATi packages I have installed so I can remove them all?
[08:40] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: will it include JUST the contents on the directory, or the directory itself?
[08:40] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda: dpkg -l | grep -i ati | less
[08:40] <jigp> hello bitlbee users..how to visible in a particular person using yahoo...
[08:40] <haanuj> hey HELP me plzzz
[08:40] <Flannel> dsotr: There's lots of websites about command line programs.  Anything in particular you can remember about it? what was it for? etc?
[08:40] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda: will help
[08:40] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: The directory itself, and it's contents.
[08:40] <fwaokda> thanks
[08:40] <Neroon> @neil sorry, but i don't know about ubuntu in a virtual machine
[08:41] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | haanuj
[08:41] <dsotr> Flannel: I think there was "cli" in the name :)
[08:41] <neil> @ActionParsnip1sorry totally new to learning PCs in depth and don't exactly understand the latter part of your question
[08:41] <fwaokda> ActionParsnip1, is there a way i can write that to a file so i can see all of it at once?
[08:41] <neil> @Neroon Thank you anyway
[08:41] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: is there a way to get it to do jsut the contents, only I'm moving the files to a web server and I'd rather not extract them and then copy them all to the root dir
[08:41] <haanuj> i have a problem with 3D effects. that's not permanent
[08:41] <Flannel> fwaokda: instead of | less, do > file
[08:42] <dsotr> Flannel: can you point me to one of them anyways? they may have a link to the one I'm looking for
[08:42] <Flannel> fwaokda: so, dpkg -l | grep -i ati > file.txt
[08:42] <Flannel> dsotr: What are you looking to learn on this website?
[08:42] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda: sure, instead of ' | less' change it to ' > ~/output.txt'
[08:42] <dsotr> Flannel: a nice command-line music player, like xmms
[08:42] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda: dpkg -l | grep ati > ~/stuff.txt
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> neil: its a command line command, run i in terminal
[08:43] <fwaokda> ActionParsnip1, Flannel, thanks
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda: 'ati' is fairly common in the english language
[08:43] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda: if you want, you can grep it again to reduce results
[08:44] <haanuj> plzzz HELP me
[08:45] <fwaokda> ActionParsnip1, well i purged quite a few packages(?) already that were ati packages but I still see menu shortcuts and stuff so im wondering if i got everything
[08:45] <Slart> !details | haanuj
[08:45] <fwaokda> ActionParsnip1, this is the only thing I see possibly related to ATi, ii  fglrx-modaliases                           2:8.620-0ubuntu1                               Identifiers supported by the ATI graphics dr
[08:45] <fwaokda> ActionParsnip1, think it is safe to remove that?
[08:46] <ActionParsnip1> not sure, i dont buy ati cards so i'm not the guy to ask
[08:46] <neil> @ActionParsnip1 It says: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: InnoTek Systemberatung GmbH VirtualBox Graphics Adapter
[08:46] <fwaokda> ActionParsnip1, ok thanks
[08:46] <fwaokda> ActionParsnip1, think im gonna leave it and do my reinstall of the drivers now
[08:46] <haanuj> every time i do compiz then 3D effects come but after restarting it's gone       plzzz tell me what to do
[08:46] <ActionParsnip1> neil: ok, so its a virtualbox
[08:46] <ActionParsnip1> neil: have youinstalled the guest additions?
[08:47] <neil> yep, its sun virtual box and yes i have run the additions
[08:47] <haanuj>  every time i do compiz then 3D effects come but after restarting it's gone       plzzz tell me what to do
[08:47] <Slart> !repeat | haanuj
[08:48] <haanuj>  every time i do compiz then 3D effects come but after restarting it's gone       plzzz tell me what to do
[08:48] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Still here?
[08:48] <ActionParsnip1> neil: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=777759
[08:48] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: yeah mate
[08:48] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Okay, I think I got you covered.
[08:48] <ActionParsnip1> neil: edit your xorg.conf and make the display sections similar
[08:48] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: tar cvf test.tar `ls -A1`
[08:48] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Those are backticks.
[08:49] <billy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt5iFG-uhHc
[08:49] <ActionParsnip1> neil: actually i'd just use the whole thing
[08:49] <anaxa> #kubuntu
[08:49] <ActionParsnip1> neil: your keyboard may be different (that example uses US layout, you can omit that line)
[08:49] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: So that 'ls' will create a file list and tar will add them to the archive, recursively, with hidden files.
[08:49] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: ok, I'll give that a go, cheers
[08:49] <smilenet> #jakarta
[08:49] <ActionParsnip1> neil: you will need    gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    to edit ti
[08:49] <Neroon> @haanuj can you deliver some more info, what and when works with your compiz?
[08:50] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Cheers.
[08:50] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: if I wanted to .gz that, I would add the 'z' flag, yeah?
[08:51] <haanuj> Neroon : it's 3D effect problem.. whenever  i restart then 3D effects are gone....
[08:52] <smilenet> yeye
[08:52] <Neroon> @haanuh so, you want to have compiz enabled every time you start X?
[08:52] <Neroon> @haanuj so, you want to have compiz enabled every time you start X?
[08:52] <haanuj> Neroon: after doing "compiz" it's back.. everytime i do the same process
[08:52] <rd1089> hi, is it possible to set environment variables at startup/system boot?
[08:53] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: tar zcvf test.tar.gz `ls -A1`
[08:53] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: did that, it started to zip the folder, then folders around it
[08:53] <neil> @Action Parsnip1 Still no luck, but to be honest I'm really not sure if I have did it correctly
[08:53] <ActionParsnip1> rd1089: you can add them to ~/.bashrc
[08:54] <neil> I am totally new to anything linux and these are the kind of things I hope to be learning
[08:54] <ActionParsnip1> neil: if you tab complete my name its easier, and it will highlight your text
[08:54] <ActionParsnip1> neil: you will learn
[08:55] <ActionParsnip1> neil: you need to get that text file as it is in the link i gave, then reboot. As long as you have the guest additions installed correctly then it will be fine
[08:55] <ActionParsnip1> neil: you needed to execute the .run file on the guest additions CD for your architecture
[08:55] <zaphod_home> hi, i've a problem with my whole system... it's a quad-core. when i'm doing heavy hdd load (copy GBs from sda1 to sdb1) systemload is going to 3.8 and i cant use the system any more. is there possibilty to speed this up?
[08:55] <fwaokda> I just activateded the Restricted Drivers Ubuntu listed and my machine is running "sluggish" like its skipping. I tried to go to display settings and check the settings but all that comes up is the display settings window with a horizontal gereen bar inside it. Anyone know anything I can try???
[08:56] <staticRails> when I login the system takes me back to the login screen again and I receive the following error when i login in failafe terminal: : "An error occured while loading or saving config info for evolution-alarm-notify..."
[08:56] <staticRails> is there any idea?
[08:57] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Not sure why. Here's how I tested it: http://pastie.org/546527
[08:57] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: does it do it for all users?
[08:57] <Slart> zaphod_home: there's ionice
[08:57] <neil> ActionParsnip1: I did the run for the additions and I have got the text file and I'm just gonna reboot see if that sorts it. Thank you and I will be back to et you know if I am up and running or not
[08:57] <staticRails> yes
[08:57] <Slart> zaphod_home: but I think it has to be run for each copy command
[08:57] <anaxa> Greetings
[08:58] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: yes. I created a new user using command line. the result is same.
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: nice one
[08:58] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: if you log into command line then run: startx   is it ok?
[08:58] <rd1089> ActionParsnip1, i was looking for something that does not require the user to login
[08:59] <anaxa> After long search and digging i end up here for help with pulsaudio (in kde4). i keep having problems to disable the annoying POKE sound of some applications.
[08:59] <ActionParsnip1> rd1089: you can enable autologin. not very secure but its available
[09:00] <zaphod_home> hm, ionice doesn't change performance :-(
[09:00] <zaphod_home> but thanks. didn no it
[09:00] <rd1089> ActionParsnip1, no i don;t want to enable autologin
[09:01] <Slart> zaphod_home: but it should make the computer usable while it is copying, if I understand that command correctly
[09:01] <rd1089> ActionParsnip1, i just want to be able to set env variables at startup.. to enable a program written in c work properly
[09:01] <corey_> Hi, I'm currently on a live cd and I have 9.04 installed on my disk. The issue is a new version of libglib2.0-0 was compiled which broke a symbol causing 90% of the applications to stop working (xserver being the important one). So I'm left at the terminal and I'm trying to revert to the old version of libglib2.0-0. Any helpful pointers?
[09:02] <dsotr> rd1089: you can put the line in /etc/rc.local so
[09:02] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: "Fatal server error" server is already active for display 0"
[09:02] <zaphod_home> yes... should ^^
[09:02] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Did that help?
[09:02] <ActionParsnip1> rd1089: you could add them to /etc/rc.local
[09:02] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: still did the same thing - probably OS X's quirkyness
[09:02] <DaveTarmac> thanks for the help anyway
[09:02] <zaphod_home> ionice -c3 -p10998 w/ 10998 is the PID of cp
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: try: sudo killall gdm    first
[09:03] <corey_> How can I remove a package without uninstalling it's dependencies?
[09:03] <DaveTarmac> I'm being lame now and trying to use CyberDuck's extract feature :(
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> corey_: sudo apt-get --purge remove <package>
[09:03] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Oh! Yeah, OSX != Ubuntu. They have a different version of tar, so you'll get different behaviour.
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> corey_: the deps will stay
[09:03] <neil> ActionParsnip1: Nope, still no joy. To be honest, I'm feeling a bit crap because I feel like I'm bugging people, I feel like I should know the basics before I start asking for help but I can't start learning the basic until I can actually use my full screen.
[09:03] <ActionParsnip1> corey_: to remove the deps run: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[09:04] <Slart> corey_: apt-get remove/purge won't uninstall the dependencies
[09:04] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: yeah, I figured that much - thought I'd take a gamble though, how different can a tar command be?
[09:04] <mjkl> Hi.  I have a dual XP setup (Home 32bit & Pro 64bit).  I also want to install 9.04.  However, it only seems to recognise one XP install and want to put 9.04 after this, not at the end of the disk as required.  Any ideas?!
[09:04] <DaveTarmac> that little exercise showed me!
[09:04] <ActionParsnip1> neil: its all learning dude, dont sweat it
[09:04] <Veratyr9> is there a program similar to netstumbler for linux?  i'm in an apartment that gets free wifi from the landlord, signal sucks and need to play around with the antenna watching the signal change in real time (rather than the overall average that the standard icon displays)
[09:04] <ActionParsnip1> neil: maybe someone in #vbox can help
[09:04] <neil> ActionParnsip1: thanks for understaning
[09:04] <Neroon> @neil that's why people are here, to help and getting help
[09:04] <corey_> Great. Could I chroot to a different disk and run the package manager on that?
[09:04] <ActionParsnip1> neil: as you use the OS you will get better at it
[09:05] <ActionParsnip1> neil: just like i'm sure you are with microsoft products
[09:05] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Quite a bit. BSD vs GNU and all that. But looking at the man files for OSX ls and tar, I don't see a reason why you'd be having that problem.
[09:05] <neil> I'll give that a try. Thanks for at least for trying to solve my issue.
[09:05] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: probably one of those days
[09:06] <neil> thats part of the reason i thought id give linux a try i was getting bored of windows
[09:06] <corey_> Is it possible to modify packages on disk when I'm running from livecd?
[09:06] <jamiewan> neil: stay with it im new too and will never go back
[09:06] <neil> Anyway, thanks for the help. See ya.
[09:06] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Well, you can fight it and find a way to bend the shell to your will, or you can accept the default and live with the parent directory being in the tarball.
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> corey_: you can install and uninstall packages like an installed system
[09:06] <ActionParsnip1> corey_: your "disk" space is limited to how much ram you have
[09:06] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: a lengthy error...  the last line is : "xauth: error in locking authority file /home/username/.Xauthority
[09:07] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: You could always extract it in /tmp, then move the files where you need them.
[09:07] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: I'll just live with it
[09:07] <corey_> ActionParsnip1: I am talking about a physical disk installed with ubuntu
[09:07] <DaveTarmac> more than one way to skin a cat
[09:07] <Slart> ActionParsnip1: I think he means "can I install stuff to the installed system on disk while using a live cd"
[09:07] <corey_> ActionParsnip1: this ubuntu has a broken symbol, I want to replace the package while on the livecd
[09:07] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: ok, whats the output of:  ls -l ~/.Xauthority     ?
[09:08] <Slart> corey_: how many packages are you looking at reinstalling? just one?
[09:08] <ActionParsnip1> corey_: you can chroot to the installed system
[09:08] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: anothe line which i think may be useful: "failed to initialize GEM. Falling back to classic."
[09:08] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Quite so. Best of luck to you.
[09:08] <corey_> Slart: yes, one.
[09:08] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: thanks again
[09:08] <staticRails> the owner is root root
[09:08] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: thats why
[09:08] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: the owner is root root
[09:08] <corey_> ActionParsnip1: and once chroot'd any dpkg command will effect that system?
[09:08] <Slart> corey_: either use chroot.. or just download the package and install it in recovery mode
[09:09] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: have you been running   sudo gedit  and/or   sudo nautilus   ?
[09:09] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: when?
[09:09] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: when you had a desktop boot
[09:10] <corey_> Slart: actually, the package I want to overwrite with is from the livecd, where could I find the .deb?
[09:10] <Slart> corey_: packages.ubuntu.com
[09:10] <corey_> Slart: so the packages on the livecd is obfuscated?
[09:10] <Slart> corey_: I'm not sure of the structure of a live cd.. it should be on it somewhere.. but I have no idea where
[09:11] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: I think it has crashed during the last night (when I was asleep in front of display.... lol)
[09:11] <fwaokda> my xorg is running at 100% after installing the restricted drivers... is there a way i can end the process in ubuntu until I can download a fix I've found?
[09:11] <shaullx> is there a way to read my BIOS settings in linux?
[09:11] <shaullx> output them to a txt file i dont know something
[09:12] <ravindu> i;
[09:12] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: if you run:   whoami    does it say root or your user name?
[09:12] <staticRails> username
[09:12] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: username
[09:12] <shaullx> anyone? please
[09:12] <shaullx> that important :(
[09:13] <ravindu> Is that true Ubuntu jaunty does not support compiz fusion
[09:13] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: ok then you have borked your ownerships. most likely by launching gui apps with sudo instead of gksudo
[09:13] <Shazburg> fwaokda: CTRL+ALT+F1 will drop you to another terminal and you can login, then drop to runlevel 3 from there.
[09:13] <Shazburg> shaullx: Nope.
[09:13] <DaveTarmac> Shazburg: don't know if you're interested, but it turns out that in an archive, OS X creates an __MACOSX directory with a mirror of the archive inside it, funnily enough with ._ prefixed to the filenames
[09:13] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: if you run:  sudo chown -R $USER:$USER /home/$USER
[09:13] <Slart> shaullx: I have no idea.. possibly you could get to the cmos somehow and download it.. but then you'd have to interpret it.. sounds hard and, honestly, kind of meaningless.. what are you trying to do?
[09:13] <Shazburg> shaullx: That sort of thing is up to your motherboard manufacturer.
[09:13] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: definitely you are right... I hadn't used gksudo in my life... :o
[09:14] <fwaokda> Shazburg, I was with you until the runlevel3 part... is that a command I just type in?
[09:14] <spikemcc> hi someone can help me make a shortcut to lauch a python script (fof game)
[09:14] <Shazburg> DaveTarmac: Fancy old Apple and their directory litter.
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: sudo is for command line commands ONLY, like apt-get, cp, mv, ln etc
[09:14] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: gksudo is for GUI apps, like gedit, nautilus etc
[09:15] <Shazburg> fwaokda: You can. "sudo runlevel 3" should work.
[09:15] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: ... thx. how can it be fixed?
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: if you use sudo for gui apps it doesnt set up the environment correctly and you get garbaged ownerships just like you are seeing
[09:15] <fwaokda> Shazburg, says "unkown"
[09:15] <OpenBluntSurgry> is there anyway to install ubuntu from live CD and keep my music I have now?
[09:15] <fwaokda> Shazburg, unknown rather
[09:15] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: the command I gave, to chown your files back to your user
[09:16] <Shazburg> fwaokda: runlevel 3 means most of your daemons will run (if they're configured to do so), you'll have networking, and X won't start.
[09:16] <Shazburg> fwaokda: One sec.
[09:16] <fwaokda> Shazburg, seemed to do the trick though after alt f7'n back in thanks
[09:16] <Slart> !runlevel
[09:16] <mjkl> Hi.  I have a dual XP setup (Home 32bit & Pro 64bit).  I want to install 9.04 after XP64 (40GB free) but partitioner want to resize XP and install in the middle somewhere :-/ is that normal?
[09:16] <Slart> Shazburg: I think ubuntu only uses runlevel 2 and 5
[09:16] <Slart> Shazburg: it's different from.. say Debian
[09:17] <ActionParsnip1> mjkl: if thats where the unallocated space is then its fine
[09:17] <ravindu> Is that true Ubuntu jaunty does not support compiz fusion??
[09:17] <chartoin> Hi, I have an issue and the day has been really bad, can someone help me with ubuntu+windows MBR issue?
[09:17] <Slart> !runlevels | Shazburg
[09:18] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1:
[09:18] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: new problem
[09:18] <ravindu> compiz -fusion no glx found
[09:18] <OpenBluntSurgry> chartoin whats the problem
[09:18] <ActionParsnip1> ravindu: if you install compizconfig-settings-manager then you will get compiz
[09:18] <chartoin> thanks for replying OpenBluntSurgry.
[09:18] <chartoin> Here is the problem
[09:18] <ActionParsnip1> ravindu: then you need to install video drivers
[09:18] <chartoin> I had windows/ubuntu 7.10 dual boot
[09:18] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1:  The last line of the lengthy error is: "xinint: connection to X server lost"
[09:18] <Shazburg> Well how about that.
[09:18] <ravindu> i installed compiz setting manager and compiz icon
[09:19] <mjkl> ActionParsnip1: XP home & XP64 should be contiguous though?  With 40GB free after XP64.
[09:19] <ActionParsnip1> ravindu: if you dont have 3d accelleration, you can't run compiz
[09:19] <chartoin> something happened to windows ntfs filesystem and it wouldnt boot, I put in the win xp installation disk but it wouldnt boot
[09:19] <spikemcc> need help to complete frets on fire install by source with a mod
[09:19] <ravindu> i install all nvvida drivers
[09:19] <chartoin> after the press any key to continue...the screen went blank
[09:20] <ravindu> compiz worked in intrepid not for jaunty now
[09:20] <Shazburg> fwaokda: Did you see that about the runlevels in Ubuntu?
[09:20] <OpenBluntSurgry> what bootloader
[09:20] <ActionParsnip1> mjkl: if they are seperate boots it doesnt matter, the partitions for each individual boot should be contiguous
[09:20] <joejc> is there a channel for people that want to put linux on there routers?
[09:20] <spikemcc> ravindu try the drivers directly from nvidia
[09:20] <chartoin> I searched for this (googled) and found out that its an MBR problem
[09:20] <indus> who knows about tv tuner cards
[09:20] <fwaokda> Shazburg, thanks! :)
[09:20] <chartoin> the bootloader is GRUB
[09:20] <Shazburg> fwaokda: So just ignore what I said about runlevels. Glad you're working better.
[09:20] <ravindu> yes I tried drivers from nvidia also
[09:20] <OpenBluntSurgry> joejc checkout dd-wrt.com
[09:20] <spikemcc> dd-wrt joejc maybe
[09:20] <indus> who knows about tv tuner cards
[09:20] <ActionParsnip1> ravindu: if you run:   gksudo nvidia-settings   does it show the driver version and not show any error messages?
[09:20] <watino> Please someone: what's the package to install to get Hardware Driver Manager?
[09:20] <chartoin> OpenBluntSurgry, the bootloader is GRUB
[09:20] <fwaokda> Shazburg, yes thanks
[09:20] <mjkl> ActionParsnip1: ok, thanks!
[09:20] <spikemcc> but not all routers works ...
[09:21] <indus> watino: its already installed, its called jockey-gtk
[09:21] <ravindu> it shows no glx found with compiz -fusion command
[09:21] <spikemcc> indus If you find help for that I need also
[09:21] <jfj1> hola alguien escribe en espanol
[09:21] <chartoin> OpenBluntSurgry, also I accedentally wiped my MBR using dd command and then got it back using the gpart command using knoppix live CD
[09:21] <ActionParsnip1> ravindu: does nvida-settings look ok?
[09:21] <indus> spikemcc: what help you need
[09:21] <ravindu> yes I'm sure
[09:21] <ActionParsnip1> !es | jfj1
[09:21] <chartoin> OpenBluntSurgry, this is what happened today
[09:22] <jfj1> grasias
[09:22] <ActionParsnip1> ravindu: can you use a pastebin and give us the output of:   compiz --replace
[09:22] <watino> Thank you Indus
[09:22] <indus> watino: welcome
[09:22] <spikemcc> for tv card I have to know how to make it work, mine as a driver included in the kernel
[09:22] <chartoin> OpenBluntSurgry, I found that when I wiped the MBR, the windows setup worked...but it didn't before or after
[09:22] <ravindu> not now I'm in office now any sugestions?
[09:23] <CliffS> Morning. Odd problem, wonder if anyone's seen it. 9.04 with metacity & FGLRX works fine BUT, on login if I drag a window on the screen, the entire machine crashes. After a few minutes, I can drag as much as I like, this only happens just after logging in.
[09:23] <indus> spikemcc: my tv card works with tvtime ,but myth tv wont tune as it doesnt have country specific frequency,tvtime is smart just tuned everything
[09:23] <L33tHaxor666> Hey peoples what is good
[09:23] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1:  the problem is not solved... when I changed the owner to my user. but when I try to login it takes me back to the login screen again...
[09:23] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: ok, but you should be the owner of all files in your home folder
[09:23] <L33tHaxor666> I was wondering if anyone knows anything about widesrceen formatting
[09:24] <L33tHaxor666> i have spent the last 3 hours trying to figure this stuff out..
[09:24] <chartoin> ActionParsnip1, can you help me?
[09:24] <spikemcc> indus ok I will try when I got it back I lended it for a while to help a friend on vista 64 (outch the troll)
[09:24] <indus> ActionParsnip1: now is that true?if you install something as root, its not the case
[09:24] <chartoin> ActionParsnip1: can you help me?
[09:24] <ActionParsnip1> indus: all installs are as root
[09:24] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | chartoin
[09:24] <L33tHaxor666> damn u ubuntu
[09:24] <indus> ActionParsnip1: third party installs do it sometims
[09:25] <Revo> ActionParsnip1: sorry for the slow reply, echo $http_proxy does indeed return the proxy
[09:25] <ravindu> I will try what is your suggestion to do further?
[09:25] <chartoin> ActionParsnip1: windows setup goes blank ofter "press any key to continue" because of MBR issue
[09:25] <ActionParsnip1> indus: then the file will not be in any other place other than home as users only have write access to their home folder in a standard install
[09:25] <ActionParsnip1> chartoin: ask in ##windows then
[09:26] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: Hell of a nick you have there. What isn't working?
[09:26] <indus> ActionParsnip1: i remember when i installed quake4,it gave root permissions to quake4 folder in home, i changed it back though
[09:26] <L33tHaxor666>  well i dont have any widescreen resolution
[09:26] <chartoin> ActionParsnip1: thank you.
[09:26] <L33tHaxor666> and i cant seem to find the right cmds
[09:26] <ActionParsnip1> indus: the home folder is made for user data, you probably ran the installer as root and then told it to install to your user area
[09:26] <neil> ActionParnsip1: Just to let you know I now have a full screen ubuntu. Also, to give you a bit of a laugh. The reason for it not working cos some numpty didn't realise that the update manager hadn't been ran.
[09:26] <L33tHaxor666> i have an i965
[09:26] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: What resolution are you going for?
[09:26] <L33tHaxor666> vaio fz240e
[09:27] <L33tHaxor666> umm
[09:27] <indus> ActionParsnip1: yep
[09:27] <L33tHaxor666> that wide one
[09:27] <L33tHaxor666> lol
[09:27] <L33tHaxor666> 1240x800
[09:27] <L33tHaxor666> that one is wide right
[09:27] <Ramonster> I get this error when trying to ./configure on ubuntu: checking for ssl... configure: error: Cannot find ssl libraries
[09:27] <L33tHaxor666> ?
[09:27] <ActionParsnip1> indus: then the crated files will be owned by root as the app running was running as root. if you'd ran it as yourself the files would be owned b you
[09:27] <L33tHaxor666> im newbie from windows
[09:28] <indus> ActionParsnip1: ya i know,but i couldrun the game just fine
[09:28] <L33tHaxor666> i ran all the updates
[09:28] <ActionParsnip1> indus: maybe it was chmodded a+x ;)
[09:28] <L33tHaxor666> have new spiffy splash screens and everything
[09:28] <indus> ActionParsnip1:no it already had those permissions
[09:29] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1:  I changed the owner of the home directory using -R option... the problem persists.
[09:29] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: Please preface my name when you write back. Get's crowded in here. Okay, well you need to know what your monitor's max resolution is first.
[09:29] <indus> ActionParsnip1: i had to change ownership of hidden quake folder to me as nvidia wont load drivers
[09:29] <ActionParsnip1> indus: exactly, so although owned by root, every man and his dog has access
[09:29] <L33tHaxor666> shazburg: let me look it up
[09:30] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: Yesterday I tried to install my vga driver. it is onboard and my mainboard is intel
[09:30] <indus> staticRails: well,i believe your driver is automatically installed ,why would you need to install it again?
[09:30] <neil> Now that I'm up and running I was wondering if someone could recommend a good place to start learning about linux/ubuntu from scratch.
[09:31] <longsleep> anyone knows how device mapper table entries are added on boot up (i ignore a certain device in udev but its still added to the table)
[09:31] <indus> neil: use the forums ,its great
[09:31] <L33tHaxor666> kk
[09:31] <Shazburg> neil: http://gentoo.org
[09:31] <staticRails> indus: Just to upgrade it or... I don't know...
[09:31] <L33tHaxor666> shazburg: 15.4" WXGA LCD XBRITE ECO (Resolution: 1280 x 800 pixels
[09:31] <indus> neil: also,google is great
[09:32] <staticRails> indus: any idea about my problem?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip1> neil: as is ask.com  msn.com  yahoo.com
[09:32] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: Are you running non-free video drivers? ie NVidia or ATI?
[09:32] <L33tHaxor666> umm
[09:32] <indus> staticRails: could you tell me the problem again please
[09:33] <L33tHaxor666> Shazburg: how would i tell
[09:33] <Neroon> neil: or try ubuntuforums.org
[09:33] <L33tHaxor666> shazburg: i have an i965, so i dont think so
[09:33] <neil> Indus: Spot on. Thanks. Same to you Shazburg.  And ActionParsnip1  and Neroon. I'm now gonna try and learn the basics so i don't feel as much as a numpty. :)
[09:33] <ravindu> Is there any people who work in ubuntu server edition to get xen and backup like solution on it?
[09:33] <neil> Laters all
[09:33] <L33tHaxor666> the screen looks good, so got black bars on the sides
[09:33] <staticRails> indus: when I login ... the I am taken back to the login screen again ....
[09:33] <L33tHaxor666> . just*
[09:34] <indus> staticRails: hmm difficult to diagnose,can u paste the output of dmesg
[09:34] <linuxboy> hi, I have a strange problem with the gnome panel. I set up everything in the position that I want, but after a few reboots it changes order. how do I fix this?
[09:34] <staticRails> indus: I have both gnome and kde... it happens in both of them
[09:34] <spikemcc> someone can help me to convert a folder that come from a source to put installed on usr like normal apps with a shortcut on the gnome menu ?
[09:35] <staticRails> indus: what is dmesg?
[09:35] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: Go to "System > Preferences > Display" What do you see?
[09:35] <fwaokda_> I finally got my restricted drivers for my display to cooperate... only thing left is my main display in display properties doesn't show it's max resolution of 1920(?)x1080... anyone have any ideas on how i can fix this? I am using dual monitors btw and the second monitor has a resolution of 1680x1050 (which is what they are both currently set at) ???
[09:35] <ActionParsnip1> staticRails: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; dmesg | pastebinit
[09:35] <indus> staticRails: its aa bunch of messages the kernel spits out on loading the OS,what loaded what didnot errors etc
[09:35] <spikemcc> the app work as a python script ...
[09:36] <Neroon> staticRails: anything in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[09:36] <L33tHaxor666> 1024x768 (4:3)
[09:36] <L33tHaxor666> shazburg:
[09:36] <L33tHaxor666> :p
[09:36] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda_: you can use xorg.conf to specify weird resolutions
[09:36] <L33tHaxor666> thats the highest
[09:37] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: And it won't let you select the resolution you want, correct?
[09:37] <fwaokda_> ActionParsnip1, is there a howto somewhere that will explain to me how to edit it?
[09:37] <L33tHaxor666> shazburg: nope
[09:37] <L33tHaxor666> shazburg: thats the highest
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda_: if you search round the web you can find example files
[09:37] <L33tHaxor666> i looked online and found out about xorg
[09:37] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda_: sec
[09:37] <L33tHaxor666> but i dont know what to type
[09:37] <fwaokda_> ActionParsnip1, ok ty
[09:38] <pawan> hi
[09:38] <L33tHaxor666> i know dos
[09:38] <L33tHaxor666> lol
[09:38] <pawan> vuze cant update
[09:38] <staticRails> indus: the Xorg.0.log contains a very lengthy text
[09:38] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: Open Terminal, and type "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf". Copy the output and pastie it (http://pastie.org)
[09:38] <L33tHaxor666> cd...
[09:38] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda_: here's mine: http://pastebin.com/f16fa7b2f
[09:38] <L33tHaxor666> let me try that
[09:38] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda_: i need to specify a lot in mine as I use an old CRT monitor
[09:38] <fwaokda_> ActionParsnip1, ahh ok
[09:38] <Ramonster> I get this error when trying to ./configure on ubuntu: checking for ssl... configure: error: Cannot find ssl libraries
[09:39] <indus> staticRails: yeah iam like a driver who always opens the bonnet and looks under the hood,even though i dont know what iam looking for
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda_: so i have to specify refresh rates etc so I can get a full display
[09:39] <ravindu> why it shows glx not found when $compiz -fusion
[09:39] <indus> staticRails: but do paste both dmesg and xorg.log
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda_: as my monitor doesnt talk back to my video card when its asked
[09:39] <pawan> update directory /usr/share/vuze isint writable
[09:39] <b1n42y> hi all, cant run k3b in normal user but able to via su, throws cannot create directory errors via normal user,suggestions?
[09:39] <ActionParsnip1> pawan: does it exist?
[09:39] <indus> ActionParsnip1: crt's are not old :D I use a 17 inch one
[09:40] <Boohbah> Ramonster: sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
[09:40] <pawan> yes
[09:40] <hermitmode> Hello
[09:40] <ActionParsnip1> indus: its not a fancy flat screen though like all the cool kids have
[09:40] <indus> !who
[09:40] <Ramonster> Boohbah, got that 1
[09:40] <ActionParsnip1> indus: ;)
[09:40] <indus> ActionParsnip1: i need a big lcd soon as they are as good as CRT's now
[09:40] <fwaokda_> What do i do to fix an error about a public key after adding two lines into my software sources?
[09:41] <L33tHaxor666> SHAZburg: thats not working
[09:41] <pawan> i cant update vuze
[09:41] <indus> ActionParsnip1: also,IPTV is on the horizon in india, and i got a tv tuner card installed,so thats great
[09:41] <L33tHaxor666> Shazburg: did u type-o
[09:41] <staticRails> indus: it is on another computer... that doesn't working and i can just work in command line. it is not coonected to the net. so I can't paste the messages.
[09:41] <indus> staticRails: thats bad
[09:41] <L33tHaxor666> cat /etc/X11/xorg.con
[09:41] <indus> staticRails: which intel driver did you install
[09:41] <ravindu> ActionParsnip1-why it shows glx not found when $compiz -fusion
[09:42] <L33tHaxor666> config?
[09:42] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf" with an "f"
[09:42] <staticRails> indus:during the system load... I just receive one fail.. which I think that is normal
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> ravindu: can you put the output of the command on a pastebin so we can see it
[09:42] <Neroon> L33tHaxor666: xorg.conf
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> ravindu: compiz --replace
[09:42] <staticRails> indus:  that is for kvm module.
[09:42] <ActionParsnip1> !paste | ravindu
[09:43] <b1n42y> pawan: i think vuze requires write permissions on a certain directory, find out which one and change permissions
[09:43] <ravindu> I'm not with my ubuntu machine now even I can not launch xbmc It asks for OpenGL support
[09:43] <indus> ravindu: also in terminal  have you done .... glxinfo | grep render
[09:43] <L33tHaxor666> shazburg cat: /etc/x11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[09:43] <Flannel> L33tHaxor666: X11 not x11
[09:43] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf" with an "f"
[09:43] <L33tHaxor666> cps matter
[09:43] <indus> staticRails: i dont know what is kvm,btw which intel driver did you install? what onboard card is it?
[09:44] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: Always.
[09:44] <staticRails> indus: the command i ran is "sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 4f191a5a8844c542"
[09:44] <indus> staticRails: huh ,are you using a PPA?
[09:44] <ravindu> thanx indus , ActionParsnip1 I'll try and come back with more details.
[09:44] <staticRails> indus: the mainboard is dg31pr
[09:44] <L33tHaxor666> http://pastie.org/546552
[09:44] <L33tHaxor666> wow pastie is cool
[09:44] <ravindu> This Channel is great my second time.
[09:45] <L33tHaxor666> shazburg: http://pastie.org/546552
[09:45] <b1n42y> so how do i give k3b permissions for creating folders
[09:45] <b1n42y> -s
[09:45] <indus> staticRails: can i see dmesg output pelase
[09:45] <indus> please
[09:45] <ActionParsnip1> b1n42y: depends where they are to be made
[09:45] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip1: home folder
[09:46] <indus> staticRails: seems like a good mobo for linux
[09:46] <ActionParsnip1> b1n42y: then if you run it as you then it can make folders, as you are the owner and the app is running as you
[09:46] <leaf-sheep> I take it that cryptsetup (crypto_LUKS) does not work on KDE4? I plugged in the external HDD. It shows up. I toggle the HDD and it prompts me for password. I type in. Nothing. Repeat. Nothing. Repeat.
[09:46] <L33tHaxor666> (>")>  UBUNTU  <("<)
[09:47] <staticRails> indus: I haven't pastebinit installed and also am not able to install it now. coz I don't have any connection on the ubuntu pc...
[09:47] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip1: well im logged in as myself non root run k3b and it fails at above task, i run it as root and its happy
[09:47] <DVA5912> anyone know why google earth is so slow? It wasnt this slow in windows
[09:47] <indus> !paste | staticRails
[09:47] <DVA5912> Its it the opengl thing?
[09:47] <indus> staticRails: aah where is that pc now/?
[09:47] <L33tHaxor666> they need something better then xorg i think
[09:48] <indus> anyone knows anything about lirc with tvtime?
[09:48] <ActionParsnip1> b1n42y: launch k3b from terminal, see what is output
[09:48] <DVA5912> wow my cpu just went ape wall because of google earth
[09:48] <indus> ActionParsnip1: b1n42y he probably installed from some where else
[09:48] <staticRails> indus: i am using another pc now. the problematic pc is here to.. but not connected
[09:49] <indus> DVA5912: Well, google earth freezes for me
[09:49] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip1: already done that, thats why Im saying it fails creating folders in home
[09:49] <yurikoles> how to use amd64 flash in azureus
[09:49] <L33tHaxor666> the i965 is made nvidia i think
[09:49] <fwaokda_> ActionParsnip1, here is my xorg.conf file... I don't see where to put my resolution though -- http://pastebin.com/m4c48e25f -- I thought perhaps I just need to change the virtual resolution thats there but what would be the virtual resolution for 1920x1080 & 1650x1050 ?
[09:49] <yurikoles> in amd64 azureus ofcoourse
[09:49] <indus> staticRails: hmm press ctl-alt-f1 in that pc and go to console
[09:49] <DVA5912> indus: hmmm. This is just one more reason for me to have to go back to windows. i use google earth alot
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> b1n42y: ok try this: ls -la ~/ | grep root | less
[09:49] <indus> DVA5912: yeah why u a spy? :P
[09:49] <ActionParsnip1> b1n42y: do any files show?
[09:49] <staticRails> indus: I am there
[09:49]  * DVA5912 whistles
[09:50] <indus> staticRails: what happens when you type startx
[09:50] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda_: line 34 in that pastebin, if you look at mine you can compare
[09:50] <staticRails> indus: "server is already active for display 0"
[09:51] <indus> staticRails: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:51] <L33tHaxor666> oops
[09:51] <c_nick> is there a community for finance n stock market oriented stuff
[09:51] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip1: 2 - Adobe reader.desktop and .kde
[09:51] <fwaokda_> ActionParsnip1, you don't have a part in yours labeled, "Viewport" that i see
[09:52] <staticRails> indus: stopping ... [ok]
[09:52] <moymoy> hey all.. anyone awakee?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda_: its not that EXACT line, its just in that subsection
[09:52] <chartoin> does ubuntu 9.04 have a command line version of choosing monitor resolution and frequency?
[09:52] <indus> staticRails: ok now type startx
[09:52] <ActionParsnip1> chartoin: xrandr
[09:52] <moymoy> anyone here using the nfs-kernel-server?
[09:52] <indus> staticRails: sorry, that same command but now say start
[09:52] <indus> staticRails: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:52] <fwaokda_> ActionParsnip1, your subsection only has "Depth 24" in it...
[09:53] <staticRails> indus: I typed: startx....  halted..
[09:53] <DVA5912> so just to be clear directX is totaly un avalible in ubuntu?
[09:53] <dsotr> chartoin: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:53] <indus> staticRails: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:53] <chartoin> also ubuntu 8.10 installation live CD doesnt work in my pc...I get the ubuntu loading screen and then it restarts
[09:53] <L33tHaxor666> you guys got my hopes up
[09:53] <staticRails> indus: let me reset it.
[09:54] <chartoin> dsotr, that command has only keyboard setting starting from 8.10
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> fwaokda_: ok here's a better one: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-847670.html
[09:55] <progre55> hi people! I have just downloaded some fonts, but how to install them? :) they a just a bunch of .ttf files..
[09:55] <staticRails> indus: I have the login screen now
[09:55] <ActionParsnip1> !fonts | progre55
[09:55] <fwaokda_> ActionParsnip1, edited it gonna go try it out brb
[09:56] <Ademan> is there a command or something to tell if my laptop is acpi or apm? (can it be both? basically i want to know if i can get rid of apmd from my init)
[09:56] <L33tHaxor666> OK i need xorg helps
[09:56] <moymoy> anyone here using the nfs-kernel-server?
[09:56] <L33tHaxor666> they is xorg not have a config vi?
[09:56] <staticRails> indus: I stopped the gdm and the restarted it using the command you gave me... now I have the login screen
[09:57] <b1n42y> firefox 50-66 % cpu usage with 60 tabs boooo
[09:57] <L33tHaxor666> why*
[09:57] <L33tHaxor666> I WANT CONFIG VI
[09:57] <progre55> ActionParsnip1, thanks )
[09:57] <Cybertinus> hi
[09:57] <staticRails> actionparsnip
[09:58] <dsotr> chartoin: mmm, then try  dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg :)
[09:58] <staticRails> ActionParsnip1: r tu there ?
[09:58] <L33tHaxor666> kk
[09:58] <b1n42y> (18:56:15) ActionParsnip1 left the room.
[09:58] <Petein> I have a directory with many other directories with images(jpg). How can i create a dir in each directory with the name Images and put all the jpgs there?
[09:58] <pawan> hi
[09:58] <Cybertinus> I'm looking at the blueman page at launchpad.net. But I can't seam to find the URL and stuff to add Blueman to my repositories so I can install it. Where on that page do I find the URL for synaptic?
[09:58] <pawan> vuze cant update
[09:58] <pawan> directory isint writable
[09:59] <b1n42y> pawan: make it writable
[09:59] <pawan> how
[09:59] <staticRails> indus: r u there??
[09:59] <moymoy> pawan: getting vuze to update isn't worth the work.. the version in the repos is out of date.. just get vuze from their website
[09:59] <L33tHaxor666> dsotr: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root
[09:59] <L33tHaxor666> ??
[09:59] <b1n42y> pawan: well i go gksu nautilus in terminal then properties
[09:59] <chartoin> dsotr, here is the wierd thing. My ubuntu 8.10 installatio cd worked only once a long while ago when i didn't know about the command you agve me and I gave up and installed 7.10 instead. Now the SAME 8.10 live cd doesnt work..
[10:00] <b1n42y> pawan: but im sure theres a chmod command for it
[10:00] <L33tHaxor666> root?
[10:00] <dsotr> L33tHaxor666: yep
[10:00] <chartoin> dsotr, it restarts after it enters the ubuntu loading screen
[10:00] <L33tHaxor666> dsotr: how do i run it as root?
[10:01] <moymoy> L33tHaxor666: sudo
[10:01] <b1n42y> pawan:  moymoy has a point i'd even go getdeb
[10:01] <chartoin> L33tHaxor666,prefix your command by "sudo "
[10:01] <dsotr> chartoin: on the same machine you mean?
[10:01] <dsotr> L33tHaxor666: type sudo in front of it :)
[10:01] <chartoin> dsotr, yes on the same machine
[10:01] <b1n42y> pawan: as in www.getbed
[10:01] <pawan> ok
[10:02] <b1n42y> pawan: erm www.getbed.something
[10:02] <b1n42y> OMG
[10:02] <b1n42y> GETDEB
[10:02] <moymoy> b1n42y: rofl!
[10:02] <moymoy> getdeb.net
[10:02] <L33tHaxor666> chartoin: xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly-customised configuration
[10:02] <L33tHaxor666>    file; backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.20090715050154
[10:02] <dsotr> chartoin: I'm puzzled, It shouldn0e behave like that
[10:02] <moymoy> i wish they would finish playdeb.net already!
[10:02] <spikemcc> how do you put dual-screens settings on hardy ?
[10:03] <chartoin> dsotr, frankly i am puzzled too. I dont know what to do...
[10:03] <staticRails> indus: .... I am waiting...
[10:03] <dsotr> chartoin: try to check the xorg.conf file while you are running the live cd
[10:03] <L33tHaxor666> i hope ur not talking about me
[10:03] <indus> staticRails: sorry was away
[10:03] <staticRails> indus: nop
[10:03] <chartoin> dsotr, I can only do that if it actually loads the live cd
[10:03] <L33tHaxor666> k
[10:03] <moymoy> anyone here have NFS exports on their desktops?
[10:04] <dsotr> L33tHaxor666: that's what the command is supposed to do, overwrites the previous xorg configuration
[10:04] <staticRails> indus: thx for comming bakc... I was disappinted ...
[10:04] <indus> staticRails: do a safe login ,check options at left corner
[10:04] <spikemcc> ouou ?
[10:04] <L33tHaxor666> ok
[10:04] <L33tHaxor666> whats sudo mean?
[10:04] <indus> !SUDO | L33tHaxor666
[10:04] <chartoin> L33tHaxor666, super user do
[10:04] <Neroon> substitute user do afaik
[10:04] <chartoin> probably
[10:04] <Neroon> L33tHaxor666:  substitute user do afaik
[10:05] <L33tHaxor666> wtf
[10:05] <ikonia> L33tHaxor666: please control your language
[10:05] <L33tHaxor666> +
[10:05] <indus> !language | L33tHaxor666
[10:05] <staticRails> indus: failsafe gnome or terminal?
[10:05] <indus> :)
[10:05] <chartoin> L33tHaxor666, dont get confused..it just means do the command as a super user
[10:05] <indus> staticRails: failsafe
[10:06] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: If that reconfig doesn't work, here is an xorg conf for you: http://pastie.org/546562
[10:06] <indus> chartoin: use gksu for graphical apps and sudo for command line
[10:06] <crimzor> How do I add a certificate authority to the list of trusted certificate authorities in Ubuntu? I need to have my entire server (not just the web browser) to accept my self signed cert.
[10:06] <spikemcc> hey how do I can put dual screens setting on hardy
[10:06] <dsotr> chartoin: I don't remember if you can start the live cd in non-graphics mode
[10:06] <staticRails> indus: I have to failsafe options: failsafe GNOME and failsafe Terminal
[10:06] <indus> staticRails: falsafe gnome :)
[10:06] <spikemcc> Ati software don't do it as I like ...
[10:06] <chartoin> dsotr, what should I be looking for in the xorg.conf?
[10:07] <staticRails> indus: halted
[10:07] <Neroon> spikemcc: welcome to the club ... had some troubles the last 4 days with ati
[10:07] <spikemcc> and resolution app don't work at all for the 2nd screen
[10:07] <indus> dsotr: chartoin it can be started in safe graphics mode, the alternate cd installer gives you text mode installation
[10:07] <chartoin> spikemcc, ATI and Linux are not friends
[10:07] <b1n42y> !dualscreens
[10:07] <Neroon> spikemcc: but it is possible
[10:07] <gabkdlly> spikemcc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[10:07] <L33tHaxor666> wow
[10:07] <L33tHaxor666> SHAZBURG
[10:07] <b1n42y> !dualmonitors
[10:07] <spikemcc> Ati work perfect on 8.04 LTS man
[10:08] <L33tHaxor666> now...how do i enter that
[10:08] <spikemcc> don't touch a non LTS ubuntu that's all
[10:08] <indus> staticRails: hmm
[10:08] <Neroon> spikemcc: I do have 8.04 here and it was a pain you know where
[10:08] <L33tHaxor666> Shazburg: how would i put this into the xorg
[10:09] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: But from the looks of it, you are going to need a lot more help than we can provide. Linux isn't for the feint of heart. While Ubuntu does it's best to make the experience as safe and friendly as possible, you have the misfortune of using a somewhat unusual laptop for your first venture. Be ready to read alot and see if you can find a local LUG (Linux Users Group)
[10:09] <indus> staticRails: have you done any messing aroundwiththat pc?
[10:09] <Andorin> Muting from the keyboard no longer works, even when I change the shortcut. Help?
[10:09] <richardcavell> why is anyone using a non-current release? The only good reasons are if you're on non-Intel hardware, you have an old computer, or you are doing something that's mission-critical
[10:09] <chartoin> dsotr, what should I be looking for in xorg.conf?
[10:10] <staticRails> indus: the only thing I think may caused problem is installing vga drvieer...
[10:10] <spikemcc> use the ati catalyst 9.4 and it work for me
[10:10] <Neroon> spikemcc: so you want 2 separate X on each monitor?
[10:10] <L33tHaxor666> I just need to know how to enter this last config
[10:10] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: You can use whatever editor you choose. gedit will likely be easiest. Run "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.orig". Then run "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and paste the new config in.
[10:10] <L33tHaxor666> COME ON...come on
[10:10] <L33tHaxor666> ahh
[10:10] <L33tHaxor666> like regedit
[10:10] <indus> staticRails: how did u install it if you dont have a net conection
[10:10] <L33tHaxor666> ?
[10:10] <staticRails> indus: when I use failsafe terminal I am able to run firefox nautilus and so on...
[10:10] <staticRails> I had...
[10:10] <dsotr> chartoin: check if the configuration differs from the one you've got working on 7.10
[10:10] <indus> staticRails: firefox from a terminal? how
[10:10] <spikemcc> just do all the things of the doc even the stuff for troubleshooting
[10:11] <chartoin> dsotr, okay I will
[10:11] <staticRails> indus: everything was go ... till the morning.
[10:11] <Neroon> spikemcc: sure, use the 9.4 with a x1650. And good luck, since they dont work together
[10:11] <staticRails> indus: failsafe terminal
[10:11] <spikemcc> just the max resolution of each screen will be enough
[10:11] <indus> staticRails: why exactly did you install the intel vga?
[10:11] <staticRails> indus: when I use failsafe terminal the xwindo is loaded..
[10:11] <Shazburg> L33tHaxor666: Your impatience and petulance is wearing. There is no regedit. Everything you know about Windows: chuck it.
[10:12] <Neroon> Shazburg: he's kinda annoying ...
[10:12] <spikemcc> x1650 but I got an ati readeon xpress 1150 256Mo laptop
[10:12] <Boohbah> Shazburg: what about gconf?
[10:12] <Boohbah> L33tHaxor666: http://projects.gnome.org/gconf/
[10:12] <L33tHaxor666> Shazburg: dont worry, ill grow on you (like fugus)
[10:12] <staticRails> indus: I had noting im my hardware list. taught it may be better to install it...
[10:12] <Andorin> Muting from the keyboard no longer works, even when I change the shortcut. Help?
[10:13] <L33tHaxor666> n
[10:13] <Shazburg> Boohbah: his monitor is kinda funky and doesn't auto-detect.
[10:13] <grawity> Shazburg: registry = gconf. shortcuts = launchers. taskbar = panels. and so on ;)
[10:13] <indus> staticRails: intel drivers are open source, hardware drivers only lists proprietary devices
[10:13] <staticRails> indus: I had no problem with it.
[10:13] <joejc> could i use a modem to connect to dsl?
[10:13] <grawity> joejc: only if the modem supports DSL.
[10:13] <dsotr> !search audio*
[10:13] <Shazburg> Maybe I'm just in the wrong channel.
[10:13] <indus> staticRails: just do this when you have internet, sudo apt-get reinstall xserver-xorg-intel
[10:13] <joejc> how much would one that does cost?
[10:13] <staticRails> indus: a very expensive experience...
[10:14] <indus> staticRails: just hook this internet to that pc and do it
[10:14] <staticRails> indus: is it possible to have internet when i am in termianl...
[10:14] <Paddy_NI> staticRails: no reason why not
[10:15] <Andorin> Okay, what the deuce. Repeatedly pressing the key for fun got it to work once out of maybe fifty presses.
[10:15] <joejc> where would i buy a pci modem that supports dsl?
[10:15] <Neroon> staticRails: of course it is
[10:15] <indus> staticRails: of course
[10:15] <staticRails> indus: i have internet... how I can have internet on that pc?
[10:16] <Ramonster> I get this error when trying to ./configure on ubuntu: checking for ssl... configure: error: Cannot find ssl libraries
[10:16] <indus> staticRails: just connect network cable there and you got it
[10:16] <indus> staticRails: just do this when you have internet, sudo apt-get reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel
[10:16] <Andorin> I don't know how, but "Mute" is just NOT working. The system detects that I press the key, but it's not doing anything.
[10:16] <Andorin> Somebody please advise.
[10:16] <indus> staticRails: also first do sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[10:16] <moymoy> staticRails: if you have your internet configuration in your /etc/rc.local file, then you'll have internet on startup, in the terminal
[10:16] <chartoin> dsotr, 7.10 is now an old release right?
[10:16] <staticRails> indus: it is wireless.. adn the usb card is connected to the case..
[10:16] <chartoin> dsotr, how do I change the repos?
[10:16] <dsotr> chartoin: y
[10:16] <indus> staticRails: thats ok,if it was working before,it will work now
[10:16] <moymoy> Andorin: does the volume icon change when you press the button?
[10:17] <Andorin> moymoy: Nope.
[10:17] <indus> moymoy: hello
[10:17] <dsotr> chartoin: do you want to upgrade it to another version?
[10:17] <moymoy> indus: hey indus
[10:17] <dsotr> !search upgrade
[10:17] <indus> iam here at odd hours :D
[10:17] <staticRails> indus: ping www.yahoo.com => "unknown host ...
[10:17] <moymoy> indus: what file system are you using? i had data loss when i had to force shutdown my computer =[ .. you're just a lucky guy
[10:18] <chartoin> dsotr, I will do that a little later
[10:18] <indus> staticRails: its wireless, takes a min to start
[10:18] <chartoin> dsotr,  maybe like tomorrow, right now I want to download a partition manager to ubuntu 7.10 and apt-get doesn't seem to work
[10:18] <L33tHaxor666> SHAZBURG: I Put in your info?
[10:18] <moymoy> Andorin: are you on a laptop? what kind?
[10:18] <L33tHaxor666> Do i need to restart opr something?
[10:18] <staticRails> indus:
[10:18] <indus> staticRails:
[10:18] <staticRails> indus:  it is 5 minute it is on....
[10:18] <ikonia> chartoin: 7.10 has been end of lifed, and the repos are now in the "old-release" server
[10:18] <L33tHaxor666> i pressed save
[10:19] <ikonia> chartoin: you'll probably need to update your sources.list
[10:19] <dsotr> chartoin: the repos are located in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:19] <Andorin> moymoy: Nope, on my PC. Though Mute stopped working on my laptop quite some time ago. PC is an HP Pavilion a6512p running Jaunty.
[10:19] <indus> staticRails: hmm ok use a wired cable
[10:19] <chartoin> dsotr, how do I update the sources.list?
[10:19] <L33tHaxor666> LOL..
[10:19] <indus> staticRails: best is.. use live cd ,boot up,install the packages and you will be fine
[10:19] <dsotr> chartoin: but to repartition you hdd I'd suggest using the live distro GParted
[10:19] <ikonia> chartoin: open it with a text editor, or use the software sources editor gui
[10:19] <indus> dsotr: gparted is also present on the live cd
[10:20] <Ramonster> I get this error when trying to ./configure on ubuntu: checking for ssl... configure: error: Cannot find ssl libraries
[10:20] <grawity> Ramonster: you need libssl-dev, I think.
[10:20] <ikonia> Ramonster: you need the ssl libraraies from the development package - what are you trying to build ?
[10:20] <dsotr> indus: ups :)
[10:20] <chartoin> dsotr, I'll use the live cd
[10:20] <moymoy> Andorin: sorry .. i was just interested in your problem.. didn't actually know how to fix it.. althought it might be that the kernel doesn't support the hardware (extra buttons your computer has)
[10:20] <dsotr> !dist-upgrade | chartoin
[10:20] <Ramonster> grawity: got that one\
[10:20] <Neroon> L33tHaxor666: Shazburg has left the channel
[10:20] <chartoin> ikonia, what do I change in the sources  list?
[10:20] <Ramonster> ikonia, trying to build arcemu
[10:20] <indus> dsotr: but you are right too, gparted has an iso for doing cool stuff
[10:20] <staticRails> indus: is it possible to boot from live and install something on installed ubuntu??
[10:20] <L33tHaxor666> damn
[10:20] <ikonia> !info arcemu
[10:20] <Andorin> moymoy: It was working earlier.
[10:20] <indus> !gparted
[10:21] <L33tHaxor666> i mean
[10:21] <L33tHaxor666> poo poo
[10:21] <indus> staticRails: of course it is
[10:21] <Andorin> moymoy: And it doesn't work even if I set the shortcut to something like Alt+M.
[10:21] <ikonia> chartoin: change the hostname of the releases to be old-releases.ubuntu.com
[10:21] <ikonia> chartoin: then do apt-get update
[10:21] <moymoy> Andorin: are you using the right sound mixer? accidentally switched by any chance?
[10:22] <ikonia> chartoin: so the hostname for each repo should be "old-releases.ubuntu.com"
[10:22] <Andorin> moymoy: How do I check?
[10:22] <staticRails> indus:  can't we use the packages on the live to install it?
[10:22] <L33tHaxor666> Do i need to restart to get this to work
[10:22] <indus> staticRails: i dont understand
[10:22] <L33tHaxor666> anyone know
[10:22] <L33tHaxor666> ?
[10:23] <indus> L33tHaxor666: when i doubt,restart :)
[10:23] <L33tHaxor666> ok
[10:23] <indus> L33tHaxor666: when in doubt,restart :)
[10:23] <staticRails> indus: I mean isn't x-server available on the live cd? and if it is can't we install that without having internet connection?
[10:23] <moymoy> Andorin: you can go to the sound preferences and there are various things you can test.. and also test the volume slider controls.. because that's what your keyboard is controlling right? is it controlling MASTER?
[10:24] <staticRails> indus: I am on with the live version.
[10:24] <indus> staticRails: yes ok
[10:24] <indus> staticRails: you need to point the installer to the live cd package
[10:24] <Andorin> moymoy: I can right-click the Volume icon in the panel and hit Preferences... it is indeed set to Master.
[10:25] <indus> staticRails: go to synaptic and add the cd i guess
[10:25] <Andorin> moymoy: I also can't think of anything I've done today that would change anything regarding my volume.
[10:25] <moymoy> Andorin: okay.. does the volume slider work to change your volume?
[10:25] <Andorin> moymoy: Yup. And the Volume Up/Down keys on my keyboard work. Just not Mute.
[10:26] <staticRails> indus: ok... the live cd is up and I also have internet connection. how I am able to tell him the location of the installed version of ubuntu.... (
[10:26] <moymoy> Andorin: that's so strange.. all the keyboard commands should be controlling the same thing.. i'm assuming you set with the "keyboard shortcuts" in preferences?
[10:26] <L33tHaxor666> WOOT
[10:26] <moymoy> Andorin: have you tried logging out and back in?
[10:26] <L33tHaxor666> YOU GUYS DID IT
[10:27] <indus> staticRails: go to synaptic> repositories and add the cd
[10:27] <L33tHaxor666> my whole screen is working...
[10:27] <Andorin> moymoy: Yes, I did. The default is the Mute key and I even tried changing the shortcut. Doesn't work. No, I haven't tried logging out.
[10:27] <L33tHaxor666> ubuntu is my new OS
[10:27] <moymoy> L33tHaxor666: what was your problem anyway?
[10:27] <L33tHaxor666> I couldnt get high resolution support
[10:27] <moymoy> Andorin: give it a shot.. let's see what happens when GNOME reloads
[10:28] <Andorin> moymoy: K, brb.
[10:28] <dsotr> aps ncmpc
[10:28] <moymoy> L33tHaxor666: how high is your resolution?
[10:28] <staticRails> indus: my question is not to use cd as a repository... I am asking you how to tell the live running os to install the x-server org package for my installed version of ubuntu
[10:28] <Ramonster> I get this error when trying to ./configure on ubuntu: checking for ssl... configure: error: Cannot find ssl libraries - what could this be since im almost sure I got the right ssl libs :s
[10:28] <L33tHaxor666> now its at 1280 by 800, i couldnt get any wide screen
[10:28] <L33tHaxor666> before
[10:28] <indus> staticRails: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg?
[10:29] <indus> easy
[10:29] <L33tHaxor666> add lines with gedit
[10:29] <L33tHaxor666> was how
[10:29] <indus> staticRails: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core , sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[10:29] <moymoy> L33tHaxor666: 1680x1050  xD
[10:30] <staticRails> indus: it is trying to install on the live version.....
[10:30] <L33tHaxor666> show off
[10:30] <owen1> how to run an app on boot, in a specific monitor (I have 2)?
[10:30] <Neroon> anyone know why the network loses connection to the router (lan) after a while?
[10:30] <owen1> i have it in .xinit rc, before starting my wm, but it only shows in one of my monitores.
[10:30] <indus> staticRails: ya wait i min
[10:30] <moymoy> L33tHaxor666: i'm just happy, this monitor came with DELL for a good price!
[10:30] <hantu> hey my mbr has moved to my usb stick and not my hd
[10:30] <indus> staticRails: hmm what do you mean live version? its a cd
[10:30] <indus> staticRails: but i get your point
[10:31] <L33tHaxor666> u got hdmi?
[10:31] <hantu> how do i change it bace
[10:31] <hantu> back
[10:31] <awake> hi everyone, i wanted to use the script in this thread > http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=451344&page=2 to spin down my external hard drive, but i have a different ext hard drive and it has 2 partitions
[10:31] <staticRails> indus: you get?
[10:31] <to_> how can I know my private ip address?
[10:31] <awake> will the script still work?
[10:32] <phishie> to_: ifcongif /all
[10:32] <L33tHaxor666> no hdmi huh :D
[10:32] <phishie> to_: ifconfig /all
[10:32] <grawity> to_: ifconfig -a
[10:32] <phishie> soz
[10:32] <grawity> phishie: /all is on WIndows.
[10:32] <Neroon> Need help, network loses connection to router after a while (LAN). Even network restart doesnt help
[10:32] <Andorin> moymoy: Still doesn't work.
[10:32] <phishie> oops
[10:33] <kke_> truecrypt says unable to create loop device when trying to mount, any ideas?
[10:33] <phishie> ifconfig would do lol
[10:33] <indus> staticRails: not sure how we can do this
[10:33] <Neroon> noone?
[10:33] <indus> staticRails: i suggest you boot normally and install from command line, network should work
[10:33] <to_> phishie: grawity: but can't see any address like 192.168.x.x in, why?
[10:34] <indus> staticRails: ok wait hold on
[10:34] <staticRails> indus: ok. I 'll try
[10:34] <indus> staticRails: reinstall :)
[10:34] <grawity> to_: you probably don't have one.
[10:34] <moymoy> Andorin: sorry dude, i don't know what the problem is.. since everything else seems to work fine
[10:34] <phishie> maybe you are connected directly?
[10:35] <staticRails> indus: reinstall what?
[10:35] <indus> staticRails: ubuntu
[10:35] <Andorin> moymoy: Thanks anyway for trying; I'm going to register on the forums and post my question there.
[10:35] <indus> staticRails: but nvm, try booting normally and network should work,its not depending on GUI
[10:36] <indus> staticRails: why dont you try failsafe terminal then?
[10:36] <staticRails> indus: reinstall a fresh ubuntu???
[10:36] <staticRails> indus: i used it.. i don't have any connection in that.
[10:36] <mzz> so how do I get a list of the roots used by apt-get autoremove? deborphan -a is close, but seems to treat suggests and recommends identically.
[10:36] <indus> staticRails: you said x works with failsafe,then shouldnt you be able to install packages
[10:36] <mzz> (either gui or cli is fine)
[10:36] <moymoy> indus: i thought on a standard ubuntu installation, the networking is handled by GNOME, so one has to at least log into a gnome session to get networking ready
[10:37] <to_> phishie: grawity: yes, should be that, but in this tutorial https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/dns-configuration.html , they have <IP_ADDRESS> as IP for their server, so what do I set for it if I havent a such address?
[10:37] <indus> moymoy: nope
[10:37] <staticRails> indus: there is no connection in failsafe.
[10:37] <indus> staticRails: hmm
[10:37] <mzz> moymoy: I haven't used them, but I'm pretty sure networkmanager has a cli interface too
[10:37] <indus> moymoy: networking is a service started on boot time
[10:37] <indus> moymoy: gui makes it easy to configure of course, imagine entering ip addresses without a gui :)
[10:38] <moymoy> indus: when boot up, ping'ing google results in the host not resolving (before i log in to GNOME) .. but now i have my configuration in my rc.local file
[10:38] <gsnedders> Hey, I'm using BitlBee, yet the init script isn't starting it as the bitlbee user
[10:39] <indus> moymoy: hmm you probably trying before networking has started,but yes probably that rc.local has some settings
[10:39] <indus> moymoy: but i think that too is read before gdm loads up
[10:39] <devil> need to install gcc java on ubuntu.
[10:40] <indus> devil: sudo apt-get install gcc
[10:40] <mzz> ooh, apt has python bindings. Perhaps those can tell me.
[10:40] <indus> devil: which java. there are quite a few
[10:40] <moymoy> indus: yup, it is.. maybe it was just a kink left from my upgrade from 8.10.. but i did a fresh install with a 9.04 minimal CD and networking works after boot, even before i login through gdm .. but i edited my rc.local file because i wanted a static LAN ip
[10:41] <devil> indus: i have downloded gcc C++ compiler .
[10:41] <indus> moymoy: ya think about ubuntu servers, they dont have gdm :)networking depending on gui wil kill the whole concept
[10:42] <indus> devil: ok and?
[10:42] <indus> devil: why download when you can install from synaptic
[10:42] <indus> devil: main menu> system>administration>synaptic
[10:42] <devil> indus: its because i dnt have a hard disk and i am booting ubuntu via usb .
[10:42] <vise> Hi.. why is my overal download speed in Transmission double that of the only torrent im downloading? The torrent shows 8 kB/s (only torrent) and the overall speed is 16 kB/s.. why so?
[10:43] <indus> devil: ok and?
[10:43] <Slart> vise: overall=upload+download? just a guess
[10:43] <devil> indus: hence i am looking forward to get all the necessary packages on the usb and install them each time i log on
[10:44] <vadi> audio not working help me plz
[10:44] <indus> devil: hmm that way, check packages.ubuntu.com
[10:44] <vise> Oops.. sorry.. So why is the torrent download speed less than the total download speed on Transmission? The only torrent i am downloading shows 8 kB/s and the overall is 16 kB/s.. Theres no upload taking place...
[10:44] <indus> devil: you want to download the binaries then install on some other system?
[10:44] <moymoy> vise: the overall accounts for protocol traffic also.. because your client has to communicate with the tracker as well as all of the peers you're connected to
[10:45] <indus> i hate torrents, i get the worst speeds with them
[10:45] <vadi> audio promblem in 9.04 is a bug ?
[10:45] <moymoy> vise: also.. what kind of internet do you have? is 16kb/s normal for you?
[10:45] <devil> indus: hmm yes .
[10:45] <bullgard4> Where can I find a definition of the term 'host bridge'? (lspci uses it.)
[10:45] <indus> !packages
[10:45] <vise> moymoy, Okay, but in utorrent on windows, there is not much difference in the two rates...
[10:45] <vise> moymoy, Yes 17 is normal...
[10:46] <gsnedders> How can I find out what user a daemon is running as?
[10:46] <indus> devil: use the firefox ubuntu package search tool in location bar
[10:46] <devil> indus: tell me.. i have downloded  files .. a tar.bz2 and tar.gz  can i use apt-get to install the package
[10:46] <moymoy> vise: utorrent is probably much better at handling connections.. not that transmission isn't a great client also.. i personally use Deluge, and it maxes out my bandwidth
[10:46] <grawity> gsnedders: "ps u"
[10:46] <vise> moymoy, Il try Deluge...
[10:47] <Nameless_au> moymoy: what is ur opinion on ktorrent?
[10:47] <indus> devil: nope apt get is only for deb files but no problem, you can install tar files from the system by untarring them
[10:47] <moymoy> indus: always maxes out my bandwidth =] .. even if there're like 5 seeds, within those 5 seeds lurks some kind soul that has an upload rate of 70kb/s
[10:47] <indus> devil: umm i mean
[10:47] <vise> moymoy, What speed do you get.. just curious..
[10:47] <moymoy> vise: 110-140kb/s
[10:47] <indus> moymoy: actually, i have tried last 10 years and still dont know how to use a torrent
[10:48] <vise> moymoy, Ah good.. I must upgrade this ** connection.. :)
[10:48] <Cybertinus> I'm running Ubuntu 9.04 on my Eee 901. I installed a PPA for Blueman. Then the package manager did a little wierd (Synaptic didn't want to start, the update manager didn't want to install updates) so I rebooted Ubuntu. And now X doesn't want to start :(. And there is nothing wierd in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:48] <moymoy> Nameless_au: ktorrent is a good client.. and has lots of features(that i don't use) so that's why i went with Deluge... (plus kde apps look bad on gnome)
[10:48] <Cybertinus> how could I see why X isn't starting?
[10:48] <indus> devil: tar xzvf <filename> for gz extentions
[10:49] <pinoyskull> anybody> i have a file...   file A contains 1 2 3 4 5     then file B contains 1 2 3 4 5 6     i want to compare file A and B then the difference will be outputted to file C
[10:49] <devil> indus: ok ill try
[10:49] <grawity> indus: tar xvf is enough, tar autodetects everything now.
[10:49] <grawity> pinoyskull: "diff fileA fileB > fileC" ?
[10:49] <indus> grawity: ok cool, when did that happen
[10:49] <grawity> indus: long ago
[10:49] <pinoyskull> grawity:  hmmm, that simple?
[10:49] <pinoyskull> ill try that
[10:49] <moymoy> Cybertinus: have you tried reconfiguring X? .. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:50] <moymoy> vise: what kind of connection do you have? dialup?
[10:50] <Cybertinus> moymoy: running that now
[10:51] <indus> devil: ok so you got that?
[10:51] <pinoyskull> grawity:  is there a way to sanitize diff output? like removing the codes
[10:51] <moymoy> indus: so many great torrent guides out there..
[10:51] <indus> Cybertinus: check /var/log/Xorg.log
[10:51] <devil> indus: i gave the comm tar xf <archive name>.tar  it isnt ble to find the file
[10:52] <moymoy> indus: he said nothing weird showed up in there
[10:52] <indus> moymoy: huh what? who said?
[10:52] <moymoy> indus: Cybertinus said.
[10:52] <indus> devil: try tar xvf <filename>
[10:52] <indus> devil: is the file on the desktop?
[10:53] <indus> devil: then first cd Desktop, then command
[10:53] <awake> i have an external hd connected via firewire. after i unmount both partitions, the drive is still spinning, how can i spin down the hard drive?
[10:53] <devil> indis" tell me how to copy the file from usb to desktop.. i am unable to execute the cp command
[10:53] <awake> i've tried sdparm but i get permission denied error
[10:53] <indus> devil: u using live usb right?
[10:53] <hrga> how to check which OpenGL extensions are supported?
[10:53] <Slart> awake: tried using sdparm with sudo?
[10:54] <indus> devil: i mean.... live cd or how exactlyt are you online now?
[10:54] <devil> indus: yes i\live session through usb  ubuntu 9.04
[10:54] <awake> Slart, oh it worked, thanks a lot :)
[10:54] <Slart> awake: you're welcome
[10:54] <indus> devil: ok then ,hmm i havent booted usb before,but iam sure you can copy files there
[10:55] <indus> devil: just right click on that file? copy to usb or something?
[10:55] <mzz> hrga: try "glxinfo"
[10:55] <Cybertinus> moymoy: thnx, sort of :). I reconfigured xserver-xorg, and now I see the normal login again :D
[10:55] <Cybertinus> moymoy: only it chrashes as soon as I press a key :p
[10:55] <indus> staticRails: hi hi hi i forgot that simple step
[10:56] <devil> indus: theres the problem..iam able to access it through terminal only.
[10:56] <indus> staticRails: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorf
[10:56] <moymoy> Cybertinus: hmm maybe reconfigure the keyboard input also .. sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-input-kbd
[10:56] <staticRails> indus:
[10:56] <indus> staticRails: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:56] <staticRails> indus: ok
[10:56] <indus> devil: cp <filename> <location>
[10:57] <devil> indus: lemme see
[10:57] <staticRails> indus: you mean I run this instruction when I run live ubuntu?
[10:57] <indus> devil: can u tell me the output of mount
[10:58] <staticRails> indus: you mean I run this instruction when I run live ubuntu?
[10:58] <indus> staticRails: no
[10:58] <devil> indus: i gave the command sudo cp <filename> /desktop...no error but the file isnt there
[10:58] <indus> staticRails: normal boot, then just say yes no etc
[10:59] <indus> devil: you need to copy the file from desktop to the usb drive iam i correct?
[10:59] <devil> indus: yes  via comand line
[10:59] <indus> devil: right now , do u see the files on your desktop? or you dont have a display?
[10:59] <Cybertinus> moymoy: I haven't reconfigured the keyboard input yet, but now I have the following lines in /var/log/Xorg.0.log: "(EE) Error compiling keymap (server-0)" and "(EE) XKB: Couldn't compile keymap" and "(WW) Couldn't load CXKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap"
[11:00] <devil> indus: no there r not there.
[11:00] <indus> devil: do ls -l
[11:01] <indus> devil: do u have a graphical session now? or you in some black screen
[11:01] <devil> indus: no its not there on dektop
[11:01] <devil> indus: i have the graphical interface
[11:02] <crimzor> Does Firefox use /usr/share/ca-certificates as a list of trusted authorities?
[11:03] <grawity> Probably not, but try it anyway
[11:03] <crimzor> Ok does not.
[11:04] <storr> what is the story of cron on ubuntu
[11:04] <Bala> hi anybody tel me how to install beryl emarald theme on ubuntu 9.04
[11:04] <devil> indus: is the comand sudo cp <filename> \Desktop correct?
[11:05] <moymoy> Cybertinus: anything in  /var/log/gdm.log? .. or kdm if that's what you're using
[11:05] <grawity> No
[11:05] <grawity> devil: it's sudo cp <filename> ~/Desktop
[11:06] <Bala> hi friends
 thnx a ton to u ...thnx to indus as well
[11:06] <Bala> need ur help for install emerald theme
[11:06] <moymoy> Cybertinus: anything in  /var/log/gdm.log? .. or kdm if that's what you're using
[11:06] <Cybertinus> moymoy: I'm using gdm
[11:06] <Cybertinus> moymoy: there is something there
[11:07] <moymoy> Cybertinus: any errors?
[11:07] <Cybertinus> moymoy: yeah
[11:07] <Cybertinus> moymoy: let me see how I'm gonna get them online
[11:08] <moymoy> Cybertinus: can you pm them?
[11:08] <bullgard4> Where can I find a definition of the term 'host bridge'? (lspci uses it.)
[11:08] <qe2eqe> When I move a hardrive from one computer to another, what should I do for smooth operation?
[11:08] <Bala> moymoy how to install emerald theme on 9.04 ubuntu
[11:08] <moymoy> !emerald
[11:08] <Cybertinus> moymoy: no. The computer running Ubuntu isn't the computer I'm using to IRC ;)
[11:08] <Bala> moymoy yeah
[11:09] <Cybertinus> moymoy: but I've found a way. I'll let you know when they are online ;)
[11:09] <moymoy> Cybertinus: oh... then pastebin it xD.. you got me, i'm sleepy
[11:10] <Bala> moymoy do u know how to install that one?
[11:11] <moymoy> Bala: why do you want emerald?
[11:11] <Bala> i don't knw abt emerald yaar i'm newbie
[11:11] <devil> grawity: now the file has been copied to dektop..i am using the command sudo apt-get install <filename>..but it isnt working.. am i dng something wrong.. the file has .tzr.bz2 extension
[11:11] <indus> so did the devil get help ? :)
[11:11] <indus> brb smoke
[11:11] <Bala> beryl emerald theme moymoy
[11:12] <moymoy> Bala: you can install emerald using synaptic.. but i'd recommend sticking with the default (metacity)
[11:12] <grawity> devil: apt-get only installs packages from repositories
[11:12] <moymoy> Bala: but if you really want to install emerald, then `sudo aptitude install emerald` in the terminal
[11:12] <mobi-sheep> .bashrc does not depends on distros, right?
[11:12] <grawity> devil: and .tar.bz2 archives have to be uncompressed with tar xvf <filename>
[11:12] <grawity> mobi-sheep: should not
[11:12] <devil> indus: yes but no..!!
[11:12] <indus> devil: grawity why did u copy the file from home folder to desktop btw?
[11:13] <indus> hmm
[11:13] <oldude67> devil, plus you will need build essentials for that as well.
[11:13] <indus> anyways u learnt a command so thats nice
[11:13] <indus> brb
[11:13] <grawity> indus: he wanted to.
[11:13] <grawity> indus: either that, or someone told him to.
[11:13] <Cybertinus> moymoy: I've put in on a pastebin :). http://pastebin.org/1662
[11:14] <devil> indus: i thought installaton would work that way so i asked grawity
[11:14] <Blindblade> Hey guys I have a bit of a lame question.
[11:14] <Cybertinus> moymoy: this is the file /var/log/gdm/:0.log
[11:14] <erUSUL> !ask | Blindblade
[11:14] <Blindblade> Ah i see thanks.
[11:14] <Bala> moymoy ok thanks
[11:15] <devil> grawity: so will after uncompressing the installation work?  itwas much easier in windows..!!!
[11:15]  * grawity sighs and leaves.
[11:15] <moymoy> Cybertinus: PM me
[11:15] <Cybertinus> moymoy: ok
[11:15] <erUSUL> devil: what are you trying to install ?
[11:15] <Blindblade> Well, I've installed ubuntu then vista.. all that has happened.. and i dont know how to figure out where the vista partition is on my drive so I can add it to the grub. I remember doing it off a live cd with some utility though having problems with my dvd drive at the moment.
[11:16] <mzz> Blindblade: err, does that mean you can still boot into ubuntu but not vista?
[11:16] <oldude67> Blindblade, you installed ubuntu then vista?
[11:16] <erUSUL> Blindblade: just look at « sudo fdisk -l » output (or paste it in pastebin)
[11:16] <mzz> Blindblade: if you can still get into ubuntu you should be able to just edit grub's menu.lst from there
[11:16] <devil> erUSUL: i wish to install java and c++ COMPILERS using usb ...
[11:16] <mzz> Blindblade: (it's harder if vista boots but ubuntu does not)
[11:16] <Bala> moymoy how to install icons i downloaded
[11:17] <Blindblade> yes oldude67 and mzz
[11:17] <erUSUL> devil: using usb ? in a computer without internet conection ?
[11:17] <yoman> I want to make a backup and reformat my partitions to create new ones but should I use tar?
[11:17] <devil> erUSUL: i have gcc java and c++ compilers in 4 file 2 .tar.gz  and  .tzr.bz2
[11:18] <Blindblade> ahh
[11:18] <erUSUL> !software | devil
[11:18] <Blindblade> thank you very much. found it. thanks for the help.
[11:18] <Bala> erUSUL how to install icon themes?
[11:18] <erUSUL> devil: just go to aplications>add/remove and install from there
[11:18] <yoman> why gparted does not show me partitions?
[11:18] <yoman> neither the livecd
[11:18] <erUSUL> Bala: drag and drop the tar.gz over the change icon theme window
[11:19] <erUSUL> devil: installing from source is not recomendez
[11:19] <erUSUL> devil: installing from source is not recomended
[11:19] <Bala> erUSUL that icon only also i did that shown not valid themes
[11:19] <Milos> hello. I have one problem. When my Ubuntu is starting, I get some error msgs saying that X server already started on screen :0 and it tries then screen :1. That happens every time I turn my computer on. Anybody can help me with this one?
[11:19] <gabkdlly> yoman: you probably have not selected the device. Look in the upper right hand corner of the window
[11:19] <Milos> And yes, when I login, it says that my screen isn`t composited...
[11:19]  * mzz is currently in the process of proving synaptic is not idiot-proof: marking a bazillion packages "Automatically installed" is pretty glacial
[11:19] <Milos> mzz: hi!
[11:19] <Milos> :)
[11:20] <jrib> mzz: what?
[11:20] <mzz> Milos: are you actually running two servers
[11:20] <mzz> Milos: (check in top or system-monitor or something)
[11:20] <thecat> hi
[11:21] <Milos> mzz: Yes, but how can I fix that so next time I start my computer it starts only one instance?
[11:21] <mzz> jrib: trying to accomplish the equivalent of a gentoo "world file": a list of everything I've explicitly installed. Unfortunately it looks like the entire base system was explicitly installed, so I'm throwing out all "explicitly installed" marks and starting over
[11:21] <mzz> Milos: well, if you really *are* running two servers you should figure out where they're both starting from.
[11:21] <Bala> erUSUL that file name is Black_Mac_Icons_by_Jameshardy88.gz
[11:21] <mzz> Milos: did you do anything unusual that might explain why you're getting two of them?
[11:22] <jrib> mzz: erm, ok.  Why don't you just subtract all of the dependencies of ubuntu-desktop from your list?
[11:22] <mzz> jrib: why is that easier and how do I do it?
[11:22] <Milos> mzz: nothing but starting Ubuntu in live mode(from a install CD)
[11:22] <mzz> Milos: you mean you're currently booted off a livecd, not an installed system?
[11:23] <jrib> mzz: apt will probably tell you you don't need stuff because you didn't explicitly install it when you actually do need it; don't know offhand
[11:23] <Milos> Nope, now I`m on system(HDD). But this problem started to happen after I logged in with live CD
[11:23] <mzz> jrib: basically if deborphan -a actually worked I'd use that, but it seems to get "Recommends" and "Suggests" mixed up
[11:23] <henke123> can you get help here even if you run eeebuntu?
[11:24] <mzz> jrib: so it misses things like mercurial which I explicitly installed) which has a dependency loop with mercurial-common
[11:24] <L33tHaxor666> can anyone tell me what ubuntu feisty is?
[11:24] <mzz> L33tHaxor666: an oldish version of ubuntu
[11:24] <Milos> codename for a version
[11:24] <L33tHaxor666> oh
[11:24] <oldude67> !feisty | L33tHaxor666
[11:24] <jrib> mzz: does apt-get autoremove not work?
[11:25] <RobRokken> holy crap theres a lot of people in here
[11:25] <jrib> mzz: never mind, you have a different purpose right?
[11:25] <mzz> jrib: I want a list of its roots, basically.
[11:25] <RobRokken> hello btw :)
[11:25] <mzz> jrib: unfortunately deborphan does not seem to use the same criteria autoremove uses.
[11:25] <jrib> mzz: ok, I can think of one way to get the list: from a pristine new install
[11:25] <oldude67> henke123, not if you dont ask, but is there not a channel for eeebuntu?
[11:26] <RobRokken> Any of you recording using Reaper?
[11:26] <mzz> jrib: I'm just doing it the other way around now: mark everything auto-installed, then mark stuff manually installed until autoremove doesn't want to remove anything.
[11:26] <mzz> jrib: shouldn't be too hard.
[11:26] <jrib> mzz: nope, not too hard, but backup what you change at least in case I am correct about my warning above
[11:26] <mzz> jrib: which one?
[11:27] <jrib> mzz: apt will probably tell you you don't need stuff because you didn't explicitly install it when you actually do need it; don't know offhand
[11:27] <RobRokken> Got wubi fired up right now :)
[11:27] <mzz> jrib: I'll sanitycheck its decisions, don't worry. And even if I screw up: this is a scratch install.
[11:27] <henke123> i cant get my wireless to work with my eeebuntu, i use wicd manager and i can see my network but i cant connect to it. It fails all the time, anyone has any ideas?
[11:28] <jrib> mzz: out of curiousity what purpose does this serve?
[11:28] <optimus> hi
[11:28] <mzz> jrib: I want a list of stuff I've manually installed for easier maintenance (both so I can install the same stuff on other systems and so I know what to remove to reclaim disk space)
[11:28] <dstaubsauger> hi, i have the /var/www of my jaunty server mountet on my intrepid desktop via sshfs. in the intrepid machine, nautilus shows 0b free space in the folder and its subfolders, and when i try to copy files there, i get an error. i can still "copy" files by doing "touch ./destination" and "cat /source/file > ./destination". how can i fix that error?
[11:30] <RobRokken> damnit, my cd drive is dead, is there a way to install 64studio without a dvd ?
[11:30] <RobRokken> I liked what I've seen with the live cd
[11:31] <staticRails> indus:
[11:31] <staticRails> r u there?
[11:32] <dstaubsauger> RobRokken: a) get a new cd drive | b) try making a bootable usb stick | c) use their channel to ask
[11:32] <indus> yeah yeah yeah
[11:32] <indus> staticRails: yes sir
[11:32] <RobRokken> But their channel has 4 people in it lol... :(
[11:32] <staticRails> indus: :) seems here is your home
[11:32] <dstaubsauger> ><
[11:32] <indus> yeah
[11:33] <indus> feels nice to be among good helpful people
[11:33] <Milos> mzz: it looks like it tries to start x server again when it`s starting login manager
[11:33] <RobRokken> thank you, I have a usb stick but its not bootable .... ahhh well.. sorry to bother you..
[11:33] <Milos> that might be it...
[11:33] <b1n42y> is anyone having issues with firefox 3.5 consuming vasts amounts of resources ?
[11:33] <staticRails> indus: I am running with command line and online.
[11:33] <dstaubsauger> RobRokken: you need a new cd drive anyway :P
[11:33] <indus> staticRails: you have internet on that pc? good
[11:33] <mzz> Milos: well, obviously the login manager is going to start *one* server.  Time I upgrade to dvd anyway ;)
[11:34] <staticRails> indus: I issued the command : "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:34] <indus> and
[11:34] <Milos> mzz: in system monitor I see only one Xorg process
[11:35] <staticRails> indus: about 6 windows with ok button. all of them was fro keyboard setting
[11:35] <Milos> and one x session manager
[11:36] <indus> staticRails: didnt get anything to configure display? hmm i think they changed somethings in that command
[11:36] <staticRails> indus: after finishing: "xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibliy customised configuration file backup in /etc/X11/xorg.conf....."
[11:36] <vadi> I am new to ubuntu, audio is not working. I tried many instructions from web still no audio please help me. http://paste.ubuntu.com/218789/
[11:36] <indus> staticRails: ya thats normal warning
[11:36] <staticRails> indus: how about reinstalling vga driver
[11:36] <staticRails> ?
[11:36] <indus> staticRails: so do u have internet in taht pc?
[11:36] <staticRails> ya
[11:38] <indus> staticRails: ok then sudo dpkg -reinstall xserver-xorg
[11:38] <henke123> i cant get my wireless to work with my eeebuntu, i use wicd manager and i can see my network but i cant connect to it. It fails all the time, anyone has any ideas?
[11:38] <Blindblade> Is it okay to type the output of commands here in public or rather not?
[11:38] <Blindblade> Just need ot for a bit of help.
[11:38] <indus> !paste | Blindblade
[11:38] <vadi>  I am new to ubuntu, audio is not working. I tried many instructions from web still no audio please help me. http://paste.ubuntu.com/218789/
[11:39] <Blindblade> Thanks.
[11:39] <indus> vadi: what happens when you click on sound icon on panel
[11:40] <vadi> Indus, When i click sound icon all the volume bar goes up and down and in the end every things goes to mute
[11:40] <staticRails> indus: the command is not correct
[11:40] <vadi> Indus: When i click sound icon all the volume bar goes up and down and in the end every things goes to mute
[11:41] <indus> staticRails: ok then sudo dpkg -i xserver-xorg
[11:41] <Blindblade> Okay, so my problem is: I've installed ubuntu, then vista, wanting to boot into vista via grub now and cant find to set my grub up properly to boot from my vista partition. My output is posted here http://paste.ubuntu.com/218792/
[11:41] <indus> vadi: can u post a screenshot of that
[11:41] <indus> !paste | vadi
[11:41] <vadi> ok
[11:42] <indus> Blindblade: you are always required to first install windows, then ubuntu on top of it
[11:42] <indus> Blindblade: because windows overwrites teh MBR(Master boot recor)
[11:42] <oldude67> indus, Blindblade thats what i was thinking
[11:43] <Blindblade> I know it's better to do that, but I also know it's possible to boot Windows from grub.
[11:43] <indus> Blindblade: np, just boot up a live cd and come back, we ll help you
[11:43] <khelvan> Blindblade - I have a link for you, hold on
[11:43] <Paddy_NI> Blindblade: http://apcmag.com/howto_home.htm
[11:43] <Blindblade> Alright, thanks.
[11:43] <staticRails> indus: this command worked: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg and the output is 0upgraded, 0 newly installed and 0 to remove
[11:43] <Paddy_NI> check out the dual booting guide on that link I gave Blindblade
[11:44] <indus> staticRails: ya but did it install anything , nope
[11:44] <khelvan> Blindblade - video tutorial on just this subject, made by a beautiful girl: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtBBl6HvdpM
[11:44] <khelvan> That should help you.
[11:44] <Blindblade> I actually used the apc mag guide to do this ;) My only problem is I can't figure out which mapping to use in menu.lst for   (hd1,1) or (hd0,1) etc etc.
[11:45] <tofix> hello all , i have some issue with Xen
[11:45] <vadi> indus:http://imagebin.org/55983 - Please  check the screen shot
[11:45] <tofix> i made a bond that enslave 2 eth in active backup mode , and i bridge it ;
[11:45] <khelvan> Ahh, well, I'm not sure it is in-depth enough for that.
[11:45] <indus> staticRails: sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg
[11:45] <tofix> everything seems fine
[11:45] <tofix>  until i want to shut or restart one of the vm,on this time xend takes 100%CPU and i can't have any return from any xm command
[11:45] <tofix> i run xen 3.3 , on a 2.6.27 , i  can do everything i want with xm tools, create list... until i try to destroy or shutdown or reboot a VM, then i loose communication with hypervisor
[11:45] <Exile> hey guys does anyone know why firefox 3.5 isnt being installed via the repository?
[11:45] <indus> vadi: select alsa mixer from devices
[11:46] <Paddy_NI> !firefox-3.5 | Exile
[11:46] <indus> Exile: install the package firefox-3.5 it coexists with older ff 3.0
[11:46] <staticRails> indus: how to reinstal gconf
[11:47] <indus> staticRails: gconf? why
[11:47] <vadi> indus: you need screen shot from alsa mixer
[11:47] <indus> vadi: sure
[11:47] <indus> staticRails: sudo apt-get --reinstall xserver-xorg
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[11:48] <andrey_> всем привет
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> is there a 64bit netbook remix iso? or a way o get a 64bit kernel on it?
[11:48] <staticRails> indus: when i loged in the failsafe... it saied it can't load some configuration files.
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> !ru | andrey_
[11:48] <b1n42y> !ru
[11:49] <indus> staticRails: nvm all that, did u reinstall xorg?
[11:49] <vadi> indus: http://imagebin.org/55984 - screen shot from alsa mixer
[11:49] <staticRails> indus: ya.
[11:49] <indus> staticRails: also sudo apt-get --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-intel
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> you mean     sudo apt-get --reinstall install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[11:49] <indus> vadi: well,looks fine and not muted,so logout and login again
[11:50] <tado> hey everybody! i have a problem with my wireless: i'm connected and suddenly i can't browse or do anything, even if the icon in tray says i'm online. this especially happens when a consistent amount of data is transfered (downloads, updates, you tube...). the problem is that my laptop on other networks works smoothly, as well as other laptops on my own network! anybody could help? it's extremely annoying!
[11:50] <indus> ActionParsnip: yeah yeah ok ok
[11:50] <indus> ActionParsnip: man pages dont list typing install again so...
[11:50] <indus> hmm
[11:50] <staticRails> indus: installed
[11:50] <vadi> Indus: ok i will be back
[11:50] <indus> ok good
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> tado: get connected again, when it drops again run: dmesg | tail
[11:50] <indus> staticRails: now try logging in
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> tado: should give a clue
[11:51] <indus> staticRails: also this time i want dmesg
[11:51] <tado> ActionParsnip: only after it drops?
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> tado: yes so we can see the system messages and it should show why it dropped
[11:51] <staticRails> indus: a problem: it said there is a problem with the driver and a report is shown in a text mode window
[11:52] <indus> staticRails: good , paste the message
[11:52] <tado> ActionParsnip: cool, i'll make it drop. (just going on you tube..). it might take a couple of minutes before i'm in here again. soon
[11:52] <staticRails> i am typeing on another pc...
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> tado: np, we just need the info :)
[11:52] <staticRails> indus:
[11:52] <demogorgon15> hello
[11:53] <staticRails> indus: x.org x server 1.6.2 release date 2009-7-7 \ x protocol verstion 11 ....
[11:53] <indus> staticRails: that doesnt look like an error
[11:54] <staticRails> indus: "not starting x display manager (slim); it is not the default display manageer.
[11:54] <indus> staticRails: hmm never heard of taht before
[11:54] <indus> staticRails: give me dmesg
[11:54] <tado1> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/218799/
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> tado1: iwl3945: Microcode SW error detected.  Restarting 0x82000008.    is the issue
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> tado1: you need to find what it means
[11:56] <tado1> ActionParsnip: thought so... :) you have any clue?
[11:57] <staticRails> indus: give me the instruction for dmesg again
[11:57] <indus> in terminal type dmesg
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> tado1: http://intellinuxwireless.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1593
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> tado1: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/226134
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> tado1: seems common, i think you may need a different firmware from what i'm reading but i am unsure of what or where
[11:59] <staticRails> indus: i restarted the pc. a blue text screen with a gray window is shown
[11:59] <tado1> ActionParnisp: all right. thanks a lot. i'll read through it and see what comes out. i'm not particularly good in understanding these bug pages, but i reckon i'll have to!
[11:59] <Armageddon> anyone got any idea on how to fix this error ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/218803/
[11:59]  * mzz groans, now mercurial/mercurial-common *still* stay installed for no reason...
[11:59] <indus> staticRails: whats in the text, and why arent you giving me dmesg
[11:59] <Exile> ok can I install firefox 3.5 thats not called 'Shiretoko'. The reason I dont want to install this version is It completely shortcircuits the package manager which means that you will have to install future updates independently of the rest of the system. also When Ubuntu gets upgraded, it's very likely this firefox installation will stop working as it depends on libraries that will have changed version.
[11:59] <staticRails> indus: the message: "ailed to start the x server (your graphical interface). it is likely that it is not set up correctly whould you like view the ...."
[12:00] <indus> Exile: it doesnt shortcircuit the package manager
[12:00] <Exile> so I will get all updates?
[12:00] <otto_teik> hi, I may somebody help me in ubuntu?
[12:00] <mzz> Exile: shiretoko installed through apt is quite safe updates-wise
[12:00] <indus> Exile: its officiallyt available from repos andwill co exist with existing one, and both will get updates
[12:00] <RyuSlash> Hello everyone
[12:00] <indus> staticRails: i need dmesg , i wont repeat it again
[12:01] <indus> !who | Exile
[12:01] <mzz> Exile: what's not safe is grabbing a shiretoko build from ftp.mozilla.org and installing it system-wide
[12:01] <CapeONE> .join #linux
[12:01] <staticRails> indus: I am chatting with another pc . and don't know how to connect to irc channel in a text mode of that pc. help me to connect from that pc to irc and help me to paste the dmseg for you.
[12:01] <Armageddon> i got an error when i use apt-get update, can anyone help ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/218803/
[12:01] <indus> staticRails: aah
[12:01] <Armageddon> staticRails: use irssi !
[12:01] <indus> !irssc
[12:01] <allan_> hello all
[12:01] <Armageddon> !irssi
[12:02] <indus> ActionParsnip: whats taht irc command line thing called
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Exile: if you install 3.5 from repos you will have 3.0 and 3.5 side by side
[12:02] <indus> Armageddon: thanks man
[12:02] <Armageddon> indus: yw dude :)
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> indus: can you expand please
[12:02] <indus> ActionParsnip: nvm
[12:02] <Armageddon> staticRails: sudo apt-get install irssi | then irssi to open it and /server irc.ubuntu.com to connect here :)
[12:02] <allan_> hello
[12:02] <allan_> i have a problem
[12:03] <allan_> :)
[12:03] <Exile> mzz: what do I do instead?
[12:03] <cemc> hi. is there a good reminder app for gnome?
[12:03] <indus> staticRails: also if u dont have gui,then u cant paste it either
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> tado1: you could set the link speed lower in the interim
[12:03] <mzz> Exile: as mentioned above: use your favorite apt frontend to install shiretoko
[12:03] <Armageddon> indus: yes he can :/
[12:03] <demogorgon15> anyone here uses cbt nuggets?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> tado1: set it to say 12M and it may bail less
[12:03] <Exile> mzz: apt-cache showpkg firefox-3.5 shows 3.5~b4~hg20090330r24021+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 which I think is a beta
[12:03] <demogorgon15> how do you open the hta files in ubuntu
[12:03] <indus> Armageddon: how? no browser. ,
[12:03] <fuzzybunny69y> hey everyone for some reason my sound will work to play a couple songs or in a few videos and then all of sudden it will just get staticy and then go completly silent. I have a **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
[12:03] <fuzzybunny69y> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC262 Analog [ALC262 Analog]
[12:03] <fuzzybunny69y>   Subdevices: 1/1
[12:03] <fuzzybunny69y>   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[12:03] <FloodBot3> fuzzybunny69y: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:03] <Armageddon> indus: he can use links
[12:04] <indus> Armageddon: pastebininit
[12:04] <Armageddon> indus: sudo apt-get install links
[12:04] <indus> Armageddon: ok just tell him
[12:04] <tado1> ActionParsnip: how or where do i set that?
[12:04] <fuzzybunny69y> !pulseaudio
[12:04] <Armageddon> indus: what;s his nick again ? :S
[12:04] <indus> staticRails:
[12:04] <allan_> hello
[12:04] <fuzzybunny69y> !ESD
[12:04] <mzz> Exile: that's the jaunty version, the jaunty-updates one is 3.5 final. Try "apt-cache policy firefox-3.5"
[12:04] <Armageddon> staticRails: sudo apt-get install links | once you have it do "links paste.ubuntu.com" and paste it there
[12:04] <fuzzybunny69y> !alsa
[12:04] <oldude67> !hi | allan
[12:05] <Armageddon> staticRails: select to copy and click on both mouse clicks to paste :)
[12:05] <allan_> hi
[12:05] <allan_> i have a gaming problem
[12:05] <mzz> Armageddon: or use pastebinit, it's pretty nice if you're on the cli
[12:05] <oldude67> !ask | allan
[12:05] <staticRails> Armageddon: thx
[12:05] <allan_> can you help
[12:05] <indus> allan_: what kind
[12:05] <Armageddon> mzz: he doesnt have GUI and i dont know what's pastebinit
[12:05] <staticRails> indus: I cant exit iriss
[12:05] <Armageddon> staticRails: yw :)
[12:05] <Armageddon> staticRails: /exit
[12:05] <allan_> well i cant run doom3 in native installation
[12:05] <indus> lol
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> tado1: sudo iwconfig <wifi device name> rate 12M    (e.g.  sudo iwconfig eth1 rate 12M)
[12:06] <giaco> I need help from one of you to make a complete checkup of my system regarding video acceleration & flash player ( that's incredibly choppy ), please contact me in private, or here
[12:06] <indus> allan_: go ahead
[12:06] <allan_> cant open in full screen
[12:06] <Armageddon> indus: can you help me out ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/218803/
[12:06] <mzz> Armageddon: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /path/to/some/file
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> allan_: have you installed video drivers?
[12:06] <staticRails> Armageddon: how to copy it ?
[12:06] <allan_> yes
[12:06] <Armageddon> staticRails: select
[12:06] <indus> ActionParsnip: cant run doom 3 without it :)
[12:07] <mzz> Armageddon: if I had to guess I'd say broken mirror or broken proxy between you and the mirror
[12:07] <emilien> Bonjour a tous
[12:07] <allan_> thats work ok i can run Quake 2 in wine good
[12:07] <Armageddon> staticRails: to paste, use double mouse clicks (right and left at the same time)
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> allan_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Doom3
[12:07] <indus> aah ok he said he cant run
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> indus: exactly, start with the basics
[12:07] <bazhang> emilien, #ubuntu-fr pour francais
[12:07] <Armageddon> mzz: how can i fix it ?
[12:07] <indus> allan_: what graphics card do u have
[12:07] <staticRails> Armageddon: i am in text mode... how I can copy in text mode?
[12:07] <allan_> just cant open native games in fulls screen opengl that is
[12:07] <mzz> Armageddon: depends on which it is. If it's not a proxy simply retrying later may fix it. But do seek a second opinion, I'm pretty new to apt still.
[12:07] <staticRails> Armageddon: I don't have mouse in text omde
[12:07] <indus> allan_:in terminal output of glxinfo | grep render
[12:07] <Armageddon> staticRails: oh wait ! there was a way :/
[12:07] <allan_> any suggestion
[12:07] <indus> !who | allan_
[12:07] <tofix> hello all , i have some issue with Xen, i use 3.3 on a 2.6.27,... i enslave 2 eth in a bond0 that i bridge to xenbr0, no problem with this... with xen tools i can create and start as needed, but each time i try to shut or reboot or even destroy a domain,  the dom0 cpu load go to 100% and the communication with hypervisor seems to be closed , an idea ?
[12:07] <mzz> staticRails: what are you trying to paste(bin)?
[12:08] <Armageddon> mzz: thanks
[12:08] <lex1> serious trouble with ubuntu 9.04 on a acer aspire 5672 wlmi
[12:08] <allan_> oh ok
[12:08] <lex1> i cant boot properly
[12:08] <staticRails> dmesg
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> allan_: maybe  doom3 --fullscreen
[12:08] <staticRails> mzz:  dmesg
[12:08] <mzz> staticRails: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; dmesg | pastebinit
[12:09] <Cube> hey, im having troubles compiling NEWSBEUTER on ubuntu 810, it says i dont have sqlite3 to compile it BUT I DO!
[12:09] <lex1> after the splash screen i get a black screen with some shizzle on (graphic errors)
[12:09] <indus> staticRails: yah directly paste from command line i suppose
[12:09] <tado> ActionParnsnip: same same...
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> allan_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25490
[12:09] <jrib> !compile > Cube
[12:09] <allan_> allan@Morphus1:~$ glxinfo | grep render
[12:09] <allan_> direct rendering: Yes
[12:09] <allan_> OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 3870
[12:09] <allan_>     GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_NV_copy_depth_to_color,
[12:09] <allan_> allan@Morphus1:~$
[12:09] <FloodBot3> allan_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:09] <Armageddon> mzz: its not a proxy, its a broken mirror i guess ! and its been that way for a long time
[12:09] <indus> Armageddon: whats ur error
[12:09] <mzz> Cube: you're probably missing sqlite3-dev
[12:09] <Armageddon> indus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/218803/
[12:09] <tado> ActionParsnip: same same
[12:09] <Exile> mzz: cheers that done the trick!
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> tado: try 1M just to test
[12:09] <mzz> Cube: or libsqlite3-dev even
[12:09] <Cube> mzz: ye. and i typed in sudo
[12:09] <Cube> aaah
[12:09] <Cube> there you go
[12:09] <indus> Armageddon: did u mess with your sources list?
[12:09] <Cube> thanks mzz
[12:10] <FloodBot3> Cube: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:10] <Armageddon> indus: no
[12:10] <indus> Armageddon: or use custom ppa?
[12:10] <allan_> indus
[12:10] <staticRails> indus: http://pastebin.com/f55324e87
[12:10] <Exile> mzz: so the updates should defiantly come thru the usual channels? I wont need to install manually?
[12:10] <Armageddon> indus: maybe
[12:10] <lex1> how can i start ubuntu without my graphic drivers ?
[12:10] <indus> allan_: yes allan?
[12:10] <Armageddon> indus: the second one yes !
[12:10] <allan_> allan@Morphus1:~$ glxinfo | grep render
[12:10] <allan_> direct rendering: Yes
[12:10] <allan_> OpenGL renderer string: ATI Radeon HD 3870
[12:10] <allan_>     GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_NV_copy_depth_to_color,
[12:10] <allan_> allan@Morphus1:~$
[12:10] <FloodBot3> allan_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:10] <staticRails> Armageddon: \http://pastebin.com/f55324e87
[12:10] <allan_> i did that and thats is indus
[12:10] <Armageddon> staticRails: lemme checl
[12:10] <indus> allan_: aah ok so 3d is enabled
[12:10] <bazhang> allan_, paste.ubuntu.com with errors NOT here
[12:10] <staticRails> thx
[12:10] <mzz> Exile: as long as you install through apt (apt-get, synaptic, aptitude, whatever) and don't add any stupid repos to sources.list then sure, updates will come in automatically
[12:10] <staticRails> Armageddon:  you know my problem?
[12:10] <lex1> i cant start ubuntu :( plz help
[12:11] <allan_> yes
[12:11] <mzz> Exile: this definitely includes firefox-3.5 from the ubuntu repos
[12:11] <indus> allan_: always paste the output then give us the url here
[12:11] <Armageddon> staticRails: no
[12:11] <mzz> Exile: (why do you think this is not the case?)
[12:11] <indus> !paste | allan_
[12:11] <indus> allan_: run doom 3 from terminal
[12:11] <allan_> Ok indus
[12:11] <lex1> after the splash screen i get a black screen with red and green lines on it
[12:11] <Armageddon> indus: here's staticRails pastebin :P http://pastebin.com/f55324e87
[12:11] <jrib> Cube: why are you compiling it at all? newsbeuter is in the repositories
[12:11] <indus> Armageddon: you solve it :P
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> tado1: i guess it still sucks
[12:11] <gabkdlly> lex1: try the alternate cd
[12:11] <mzz> jrib: heh, good point, I should've checked for that
[12:11] <Cube> jrib: lol the 0.9 version or something? they're already at 2.0
[12:12] <Armageddon> indus: no idea what's his problem lol
[12:12] <Kartagis> how can I solve http://pastebin.com/m3786cf56 without rebooting?
[12:12] <lex1> alternate cd ?
[12:12] <tado1> ActionParsnip: good guess _)
[12:12] <allan_> allan@Morphus1:~$ doom3
[12:12] <allan_> DOOM <IP_ADDRESS>4 linux-x86 Jan 16 2007 21:58:02
[12:12] <allan_> found interface lo - loopback
[12:12] <allan_> found interface wlan0 - <IP_ADDRESS>/<IP_ADDRESS>
[12:12] <allan_> ------ Initializing File System ------
[12:12] <FloodBot3> allan_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:12] <allan_> Loaded pk4 /usr/local/games/doom3/base/game01.pk4 with checksum 0x51c6981f
[12:12] <lex1> i can boot from a live cd normal
[12:12] <bazhang> lex1, text based installer
[12:12] <Armageddon> allan_: use pastebin next time
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> allan_: use the pastebin
[12:12] <Armageddon> lol
[12:12] <lex1> well i dont want to reinstall all that
[12:12] <nibbler_> Kartagis: /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart, maybe rmmod/modprobe the drivers for your audiohardware? (just guessing)
[12:12] <indus> sexy dmesg :)
[12:13] <bazhang> lex1, try restarting in safe mode
[12:13] <lex1> doesnt work too
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> allan_: insteaad of putting the text in here and scrolling the channel, put the text in the pastebin then give us the link to the new page you are taken to
[12:13] <mzz> Kartagis: err, I'm pretty sure pulse normally runs as "you", not systemwide
[12:13] <Exile> mzz: I'm not sure, the version I installed the way you suggested is still named Shiretoko and there is no update option under help in firefox.
[12:13] <lex1> tried ...generic-11 and 13
[12:13] <lex1> both dont work
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> allan_: this will allow you to give multiple lines of textwithouot ruining everyones irc experience
[12:13] <bazhang> lex1, what errors do you get restarting in safe mode; be very clear as 'doesn't work is too vague
[12:13] <Cube> mzz: ok how can i get libcurl!?
[12:13] <Exile> mzz: its probably fine just want to make sure
[12:13] <mzz> Kartagis: so I wouldn't use the /etc/init.d/ script for it, I'd check if the user instance crashed or didn't start
[12:13] <lex1> i dont get any error message :(
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> tado1: ok use the command to set it back to 54M
[12:14] <indus> allan_: when you go to paste.ubuntu.com you will see a text box , paste the output there, write your name and click on send, then you will get a new page with a url, give us just the url here
[12:14] <tado1> ActionParsnip: done already
[12:14] <Kartagis> mzz, it must have crashed, because it was working this morning
[12:14] <lex1> it's just an black screen with grphic "errors" on it
[12:14] <lex1> e.g red lines
[12:14] <Armageddon> Cube: sudo apt-get install libcurl3
[12:14] <bazhang> lex1, so you are able to successfully start in safe mode then
[12:15] <mzz> Cube: recommend you at least try the packaged version first, as mentioned by jrib (I see 1.3, there may be a ppa with a more recent version). If you insist on compiling: apt-cache search libcurl, the relevant -dev package should be listed.
[12:15] <nibbler_> bazhang: safemoe is without X?
[12:15] <Cube> thanks
[12:15] <lex1> ... i can start it but after the ubuntu start (splash screen) i get a black screen
[12:15] <bazhang> nibbler_, without the drivers, vesa
[12:15] <indus> staticRails: aah the intel 915 chipset
[12:15] <mzz> Kartagis: check if it's not running or if the connection's refused for some other reason. If it's not running: restart it. Forgot how, but it may be as simple as "pulseaudio" in a terminal.
[12:15] <Cube> mzz: where would that ppa be?
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> lex1: can you press alt+f2 to get a dialogue box up?
[12:15] <lex1> it worked yesterday :(
[12:15] <indus> allan_: did u start doom3 in terminal?
[12:15] <lex1> no
[12:15] <mzz> Cube: there's a search function for ppas, which in turn you can search for via google :)
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> lex1: does it happen if you log in as another user?
[12:16] <bazhang> lex1, what video card, what driver and how installed; include my nick in your response
[12:16] <lex1> i cant log in
[12:16] <lex1> Radeon X1600 (in a acer aspire), driver installed via sudo
[12:16] <indus> lex1: use the person's nick in your answer or question so that it will highlight for that user
[12:16] <jrib> Cube: apt-get build-dep newsbeuter will install the build dependencies for the newsbeuter package fwiw, but finding a ppa would be preferrable to compiling
[12:16] <indus> lex1: like this
[12:16] <indus> lex1
[12:17] <lex1> but the driver was for a X1400 :(
[12:17] <indus> lex1
[12:17] <indus> lex1
[12:17] <lex1> indus, kk
[12:17] <FloodBot3> indus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:17] <staticRails> indus: what should i do?
[12:17] <indus> floodbot muted me :P
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> lex1: you can log in to root recovery mode add use the adduser command ;)
[12:17] <allan_> :P
[12:17] <Cube> jrib: ok. but i cant find any ppa with some decent version - maybe im not searching the right way?
[12:18] <lex1> bazhang: how can i un-install a graphic driver without logging into the system
[12:18] <lex1> bazhang: from a live system on the same pc
[12:18] <indus> staticRails: now what is the status? did u get some graphical scrren?
[12:18] <jony123> !hacker
[12:18] <indus> allan_: is your problem solved?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> lex1: i told you, boot to recovery mode root console
[12:19] <lex1> root console and than ?
[12:19] <lex1> actionParsnip: i am sorry but i am a linux nOOb
[12:19] <jrib> Cube: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=newsbeuter
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> lex1: make a new user using adduser
[12:19] <Cube> jrib: gracias
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> lex1: if you can't log in as that user, boot to root console again then uninstall the driver
[12:20] <lex1> so i just write in the console (root-consol) adduser ?
[12:20] <giuseppe_> join #ubuntu
[12:20] <giuseppe_> hi
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> lex1: well no, you need to specify a new user name
[12:20] <lex1> nice thx
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> lex1: e.g.   adduser failsafe    will create a new user named filsafe
[12:20] <giuseppe_> hi there is someone can help me \.9
[12:21] <giuseppe_> :)
[12:21] <lex1> actionparsnap: you made my day :D
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> lex1: you will then need to run: passwd failsafe    to set the password (if adduser doesnt make you set it)
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> lex1: you can have any username you like except the ones that already exist
[12:21] <FreshPies> Ain't nothin quite like a fresh pie
[12:21] <giuseppe_> guys someone is capable to resolve a problem with wireless on eeepc
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> FreshPies: is it fresh fish pie
[12:22] <bazhang> !ot > FreshPies
[12:22] <FreshPies> Oh ok
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> giuseppe_: ask the room, it will reply if it can
[12:22] <FreshPies> I thought this was a food channel
[12:22] <FreshPies> isn't ubuntu like a kind of gumbo?
[12:22] <maddie> anyone alive in here?
[12:22] <oldude67> FreshPies, google it
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> FreshPies: its an african word meaning "together"
[12:23] <bazhang> FreshPies, please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:23] <misfitx7> you mean gum-ball?
[12:23] <indus> maddie: iam
[12:23] <maddie> I am so effin bored
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> maddie: play tux racer ;)
[12:24] <jrib> maddie: learn something new...
[12:24] <maddie> whats that?\
[12:24] <allan_> No problem still
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> maddie: a cool game
[12:24] <allan_> indus
[12:24] <FreshPies> maddie: sometimse when i'm bored, i bake pies
[12:24] <jrib> FreshPies: do you have a question about Ubuntu?
[12:24] <maddie> just wanted to maybe chat...new to the whole linux thing
[12:25] <FreshPies> no, i'm just here to help
[12:25] <jrib> maddie: #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting
[12:25] <indus> so all are in the mood for off topic
[12:25] <maddie> I type that in?
[12:25] <indus> cool
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> maddie: this is support, chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:25] <vasser> hello
[12:25] <jrib> maddie: you type: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:25] <Supersaiyan_IV> maddie, it's difficult to chat in here, as there's 1354 user heres
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> !hi | vasser
[12:26] <Supersaiyan_IV> here*
[12:26] <vasser> i wish to install ubuntu using WUBI, is it possible to use ext4 as the FS inside wubi ?
[12:26] <Supersaiyan_IV> interesting question
[12:26] <maddie> not sure it worked
[12:27] <vasser> also, will it even make a difference ?
[12:27] <maddie> apparently I am clueless
[12:28] <jrib> maddie: you can probably just right click on the word #ubuntu-offtopic and hit join channel
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> vasser: should be, ext4 is faster but i don't personally use it due to the reports of data loss early on.
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> maddie: we all are :)
[12:28] <allan_> indus http://paste.ubuntu.com/218827/
[12:28] <vasser> it is not safe ?
[12:29] <allan_> indus are you there
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> vasser: the early design was with hard shutdowns. ive not read the latest
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> vasser: it will be defaul in karmic which is out in october
[12:30] <vasser> good to know, thanks ActionParsnip
[12:31] <allan_> indus is this a hard one to fix
[12:32] <Supersaiyan_IV> vasser, http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto#For_people_who_are_running_Ubuntu don't think you can use it within wubi, you could mount a ext4 disk from wubi though
[12:32] <roberto_> hi
[12:33] <roberto_> what i have to put in menu.lst to use kernel 2.6.28-14-generic ? grazie:)
[12:33] <Blindblade> to no avail
[12:33] <b1n42y> lex1: vt?
[12:33] <Blindblade> looks like editting menu.lst does nothing
[12:34] <vasser> is it possible to convert ext3 to ext4 after installing ubuntu ?
[12:34] <allan_> hello indus
[12:35] <b1n42y> vasser: yes but u will lose some ext4 benefits
[12:35] <roberto_> I don't know what to write in the file
[12:35] <b1n42y> vasser: which u probably wont care for
[12:35] <vasser> which benefits, for example ?
[12:35] <alteregoa> i am looking for quato
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Blindblade: you need to run  sudo update-grub after editting it
[12:36] <Blindblade> oh dammit.
[12:36] <Blindblade> I feel like a moron. thanks A
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> vasser: you can convert ext3 to 4 but you dont get all the benefits of ext4
[12:36] <alteregoa> i have to find quato
[12:36] <b1n42y> vasser: i cant remember, server related i think, larger fs support for one i think
[12:36] <Blindblade> ActionParsnip:
[12:36] <oldude67> Blindblade, this is the reason that they say to run windows first then ubuntu. its easier
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> !grub | Blindblade
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Blindblade: the documentation is pretty good for grub
[12:37] <Blindblade> I know oldude67. Figured my problem though, thanks to ActionParsnip.
[12:37] <b1n42y> vasser: its probably better to wait till october when its been tested etc it will be default in koala
[12:37] <Blindblade> Alright.
[12:37] <Blindblade> THanks guys, I might be back.
[12:37] <vasser> will do, thanks, b1n42y
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> oldude67: or just omit the windows install all together, super easy ;)
[12:37] <alteregoa> vasser: wait till a online fraggles are out for ext4
[12:38] <oldude67> ActionParsnip, now your talking...hate windows
[12:38] <shaullx> how to install adobe flash player on 64bit?
[12:38] <shaullx> and why can't i see any menu in my firefox (they are there i just can't see them)
[12:38] <vasser> thanks for all the help, bye now
[12:38] <alteregoa> ask them to write a 64bit version for flash
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> oldude67: don't hate it, I just realise that linux does everything that windows can do (well, for my needs anyhoo)
[12:39] <shaullx> na i rather get another quick term solution:)
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> shaullx: you can install the flashpluin-installer package
[12:39] <tado> ActionParsnip: i followed this, and with the following command it seems to work!
[12:40] <tado> ActionParsnip: echo -e 'alias wlan0 iwl3945 \noptions iwl3945 disable_hw_scan=1' > /etc/modprobe.d/iwl3945
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> shaullx: or you can download the 64bit .so from adobe and put it in your plugins folder
[12:40] <Until_It_Sleeps> It is alright to leave your computer on 24/7?
[12:40] <shaullx> witch one is better?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> tado: nice one bro :D
[12:40] <tado> ActionParsnip: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=820297
[12:40] <Until_It_Sleeps> ...or is ##hardware a better question for this?
[12:40] <Until_It_Sleeps> erm, a better channel*
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Until_It_Sleeps: i do. my file server has little over 3 years uptime
[12:40] <oldude67> Until_It_Sleeps, mine runs 24/7
[12:40] <tado> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot again. this definitely made my day!
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> tado: np man
[12:41] <Until_It_Sleeps> ActionParsnip: Well, with servers, it's only natural that they run 24/7. I'm talking about desktops and the like...
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> shaullx: i use the 64bit one, its beta but runs really well
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Until_It_Sleeps: no difference, its just a pc
[12:41] <oldude67> Until_It_Sleeps, mine is a desktop as well
[12:41] <alteregoa> i am looking for douglas quaid
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> Until_It_Sleeps: in fact its ancient (P3 500 CPU, 128Mb RAM)
[12:41] <RandomTime> Until_It_Sleeps: It's ok to leave your computer on 24/7 - Linux works much better 24/7 than Windows (windows likes to reset and get slow)
[12:42] <b1n42y> how can i get a cpu load over time for one pid
[12:42] <lex1> how can i uninstall a driver when it'S not a proprietary driver ?
[12:42] <KC|work> i am quaid
[12:42] <alteregoa> linux has a monolithic kernel, its obsolete
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> lex1: how did you install it?
[12:42] <alteregoa> i hope the hurd project goes to ubuntu
[12:42] <lex1> actionPar: via sudo i think
[12:43] <lex1> actionPar: yeah with the terminal
[12:43] <bazhang> !ot
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> lex1: using the repos?
[12:43]  * Until_It_Sleeps wishes his group could get the C++ version of his Wikipedia program completed faster, then he would migrate to Windows without hesitation.
[12:43] <Until_It_Sleeps> erm
[12:43] <Until_It_Sleeps> migrate to Linux*
[12:43] <b1n42y> can i have a command that will enable me to track cpu load for one process please
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> alteregoa: its worked since the 70s and works very well
[12:44] <lex1> ActionPar: omg i am a total nOOb i use linux for 2 days now...
[12:44] <Until_It_Sleeps> See, I get confused 30 minutes after I wake up... :P
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=509138
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> lex1: did you use apt-get install?
[12:45] <lex1> cant remember
[12:45] <lex1> w8
[12:45] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip: thanks, btw i love how the new notifications work with pidgin
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: i turn those off, very annoying
[12:45] <indus> allan_: hi
[12:45] <indus> was afk
[12:45] <bullgard4> How is 'host bridge' definiert? (It is used in lspci.)
[12:46] <lex1> ActionPar: yep i used apt get
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> lex1: then you can remove it with: sudo apt-get --purge remove <pakage name here>
[12:46] <indus> allan_: does doom3 have any display options inside? resolutions etc?
[12:46] <indus> allan_: i have quake 4 and it has the same options
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> allan_: doom3 runs amazingly under wine if all else fails
[12:47] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip: well when you replied how would i have known that or for that matter how would you know if someone responded to you ?
[12:47] <bullgard4> How is 'host bridge' defined? (It is used in lspci.)
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: the icon in the task bar turns into a smiley yellow face from green
[12:47] <allan_> indus well it does but it dont display long engough
[12:47] <lex1> ActionPar: how do i now the pakage name :(
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: thats enough notification for me
[12:47] <indus> allan_: what do you mean?
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> lex1: what video card is it for?
[12:48] <deany> and it also flashes the taskbar when im in another desktop
[12:48] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip: haha but i just read both your messages whilst checking out the thread you pointed me to
[12:48] <lex1> Radeon X1400
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> lex1: or you can run:  history | grep install      may show you
[12:48] <allan_> well installed doom3 in native files but it just flashed the screen and that it
[12:48] <deany> I dont like the notify system..it shows for few seconds and then doesnt... least iif ive gone away I come back and see my taskbar flash and my icon in tray smiling still.
[12:48] <allan_> so i cant get to the options
[12:49] <lex1> ActionParcnip: i get: 2 history | grep install
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: i just dont like stuff popping up and trying to grab my attention. I'll do it when i'm ready not because some intransient occurance happened.
[12:49] <false> rg/55984 - screen shot from alsa mixer [05:49] [false(+ei)] [6:Freenode/#ubuntu(+JLcfnt)] [Act: 5,7,8]
[12:49] <lex1> but i am in  a live system atm....
[12:49] <false> [#ubuntu]
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> lex1: does one look like the driver you installed?
[12:49] <lex1> i only see: 2 history | grep install
[12:50] <lex1> Atcion: nothing more just that line
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> lex1: i see
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> lex1: then try:    dpkg -l | grep ati | grep video
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> lex1: once you know the package name you can wrench it out
[12:51] <lex1> ActionParsnip: ii  xserver-xorg-video-ati                     1:6.12.1-0ubuntu2                 X.Org X server -- ATI display driver wrapper
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> lex1: does that sound riht to you?
[12:51] <lex1> ActionParsnip: it does ;)
[12:52] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip: ye im like that as well, hate ads on internet, TV and OS's that bug me, im just saying i think as far as pidgin integration its a +, each to their own though, now stop replying coz you're popping up in the top right hand corner whilst im trying to decypher this code on the thread LOL
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> lex1: then run:   sudo apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-video-ati
[12:52] <lex1> allready did :D
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> lex1: top man
[12:52] <lex1> reboot now, cya in a bit
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> peace
[12:56] <b1n42y> ActionParsnip: i need that over time, im seeing how firefox behaves without flash coz 60 tabs with java turned on is killing this 1.7ghz tablet
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: well yeah, firefox sucks at ram too
[12:58] <b1n42y> it looks like disabling java has decreased cpu usage by 40% to 20% from 60%
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> b1n42y: try a lighter DE too like LXDE or xfce to save more cpu
[12:58] <CrAzYoNi> Hi all
[12:58] <chrissmithy> Hi hope some one can help I am trying to get my usb mf627 modem working have tried doing whats reccomended in the forums to no avail