[00:00] <Frozenthia> : (
[00:00] <SalMi> Any hackers here ?! :/
[00:00] <histo> gmachine_24: Grub doesn't remain if you install windows.  It installs it's bootloader to the mbr
[00:00] <gmachine_24> histo, not in my experience.
[00:00] <ESphynx> millennia: lolz
[00:00] <gmachine_24> histo, Grub remains.
[00:00] <SalMi> HELLLLO
[00:00] <Frozenthia> Is Kubuntu a forbidden topic? I need help. : S
[00:00] <histo> gmachine_24: sure in windows fdisk /mbr   would write it's bootloader.  Or whatever they are using now. fixmbr I think
[00:00] <SalMi> ;D
[00:00] <sevensixtwo> SalMi, do you expect people to raise their hand?
[00:00] <ESphynx> It's installing :P
[00:01] <histo> gmachine_24: fixmbr c:   from a windows cd will overwrite it.
[00:01] <SalMi> just messing around duude :P\
[00:01] <SalMi> hmmm
[00:01] <histo> gmachine_24: However I would write zero's to the drive. People like me could recover your old files even after you loaded windows if you don't
[00:01] <Frozenthia> Well, thanks for the help. >_>
[00:01] <gmachine_24> SalMi this is not 4chan. Do you have an Ubuntu question or problem?
[00:02] <SalMi> Yah
[00:02] <gmachine_24> histo, yes, I know. I overwrite all drives. Just trying something new.
[00:02] <sam555> hello all!
[00:02] <SalMi> How do u change ur background :$
[00:02] <histo> lol
[00:02] <gmachine_24> SalMi, do you mean desktop?
[00:02] <SalMi> Yah .. desktop background
[00:02] <gmachine_24> sam555, questions and problems, please.
[00:02] <SalMi> How ..
[00:02] <sam555> I want to change a password that is very similar to the one I just entered, but it won't let me.  How do I get past this?
[00:02] <lucas_> Hello friends, I am having difficulty using some symbols in Ubuntu.Example: ¬ or §
[00:03] <gmachine_24> SalMi, preferences>desktop settings or right click on the desktop
[00:03] <SalMi> SHIT NO !!!
[00:03] <SalMi> :P
[00:03] <FloodBot1> SalMi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:03] <gmachine_24> language please
[00:03] <barrett> man this channel is usually packed...
[00:03] <SalMi> Sorry :P
[00:04] <SalMi> Waz just messing around guys ..
[00:04] <SalMi> Btw
[00:04] <mernilio> Hi all! :-)
[00:04] <gmachine_24> sam555, you want to change an existing password to a new one?
[00:04] <SalMi> is the Ubuntu for android phone has the same as the Ubuntu phone operating system ?
[00:04] <SalMi> :$
[00:05] <histo> !phone | SalMi
[00:05] <mernilio> why havent i been here before? you all seem like a nice bunch! :-)
[00:05] <ESphynx> this is awesome. love how changing compiz settings render my desktop unusable
[00:05] <SalMi> Ohhh .. THANKS DUUDE :D
[00:05] <gmachine_24> guys, come on, questions and problems. this is not a social chat room.
[00:05] <barrett> can anyone help me figure out why my mdadm raid5 isn't coming on line?
[00:05] <gmachine_24> !offtopic or whatever
[00:06] <mernilio> sorry! ;-)
[00:06] <w0rm-_x> gmachine_24, it is both
[00:06] <gmachine_24> ubottu, it never occurred to me.
[00:06] <w0rm-_x> ESphynx, thinking of getting rid of it, too buggy
[00:06] <lucas_> Hello friends, I have some difficulty for using some symbols in Ubuntu. For example: ¬ or §. How to configure the keyboard correctly for that?
[00:06] <ESphynx> w0rm-_x: Unity? it's the worst
[00:06] <w0rm-_x> ESphynx, compiz
[00:07] <ESphynx> well compiz was OK until Unity came along :P
[00:08] <SalMi> I think unity is a gr8 interface :P
[00:08] <w0rm-_x> ESphynx, I don't know if the existence of both would create a conflict, only started to have problems when setting Compiz up..
[00:09] <ESphynx> w0rm-_x: hmm compiz normally comes with ubuntu/unity does it not?
[00:09] <w0rm-_x> ESphynx, no
[00:09] <ESphynx> It does for me?
[00:09] <SalMi> well its not buggy here .. I have an i5 intel quad core processor, 8 gb ram and Radeon 6570
[00:09] <SalMi> Works gr8 for me .. not buggy at all
[00:09] <w0rm-_x> ESphynx, that's weird
[00:09] <w0rm-_x> SalMi, which one?
[00:10] <SalMi> Wht do u mean which one ? :P Unity .. sorry for my english :/
[00:10] <w0rm-_x> I'm thinking of shutting the whole Ubuntu thing off and switch to Debian
[00:10] <_lucas_br_> Hello friends, I have some difficulty for using some symbols in Ubuntu. For example: ¬ or §. How to configure the keyboard correctly for that?
[00:11] <SalMi> Guys can someone answer that lucas guy he has been asking the same question for like 15 minutes ...
[00:11] <andros> exit
[00:11] <barrett> where is everyone?
[00:12] <histo> !patience _lucas_br_ SalMi
[00:12] <w0rm-_x> _lucas_br_, what do you mean by difficulty?
[00:12] <histo> !patience | _lucas_br_ SalMi
[00:12] <gmachine_24> barrett, everyone as in . . . .
[00:12] <_lucas_br_> Okay...
[00:12] <w0rm-_x> !patience | histo
[00:12] <SalMi> can i swear here ?! :P
[00:13] <Pici> no
[00:13] <histo> w0rm-_x: I don't think you will be pleased with debian. If you want ot take a break for awhile and try something completely different check out Arch
[00:13] <sam555> gmachine_24: I won't to change the password to something very similar to the previous password, but it won't let me because its too similar.  How do I bypass this?
[00:13] <histo> !botabuse | w0rm-_x
[00:13] <w0rm-_x> histo, why what's wrong with Debian?
[00:13] <histo> sam555: where are you trying to change this password?
[00:14] <_lucas_br_> w0rm-_x I need to configure the keyboard for these symbols work, and I can not.
[00:14] <histo> _lucas_br_: can you use alt codes?
[00:15] <histo> _lucas_br_: under keyboard > layout > layout options > compose key   I believe is what you are looking for
[00:15] <ESphynx> ok xubuntu just isn't working
[00:15] <ESphynx> I get this same red backgrond as with unity :S with no dock or anything
[00:16] <ESphynx> still looks like compilz/unity is running :|
[00:16] <w0rm-_x> histo, I don't want something different, just something that is better and has less problems.
[00:16] <sam555> histo: I'm trying to change the password from within the user account.  How would I do it from root?
[00:16] <histo> w0rm-_x: What sort of problems are you having?
[00:16] <blbrown_win3> With ubuntu12.10 when the top window bar is hidden from view, how can I move the window (say with gimp)
[00:16] <Seven_Six_Two> ESphynx, can you open a terminal and type     metacity --replace &
[00:16] <gmachine_24> sam555, http://www.ehow.com/how_5938222_change-password-ubuntu.html
[00:16] <histo> sam555: Change who's passwd?
[00:17] <histo> sam555: you could passwd sam555    in a terminal if sam555 is your username
[00:17] <histo> sam555: if you are logged in as that user just passwd
[00:17] <sam555> histo: I'm changing another admin within the OS.
[00:17] <blbrown_win3> nevermind I went to single window mode
[00:17] <_lucas_br_> histo: Ok
[00:17] <histo> sam555: sudo passwd otherusername
[00:17] <sam555> histo: i used that command, however, it would not let me change it because it was too similar, but I need to make it this particular password.
[00:17] <ESphynx> Seven_Six_Two I couldnt open anything, but in the console I could start xfce...
[00:18] <histo> sam555: can you please pastebin the error you are receiving
[00:18] <w0rm-_x> histo, I keep getting messages stating that there was a problem with the system and keep reporting them without a respond, also Ubuntu gets stuck when shutting it down while the other OSs does not
[00:18] <ESphynx> Where can I configure to run an xfce session instead?
[00:18] <sam555> it worked histo!!!
[00:18] <barrett> gmachine_24, sorry, i'm frustrated because usually its packed in here and my raid array... is not assembling, and i'm panicking and nobody seems to have any advice
[00:18] <histo> sam555: I don't know where you were thinking it was too similiar that should not be an issue
[00:19] <sam555> histo: thanks much.  It was the sudo passwd otherusername that worked
[00:19] <sam555> histo: when I did just passwd, it would give me that error
[00:19] <sam555> thanks for the save
[00:19] <histo> sam555: What error? I've never seen that.
[00:19] <ESphynx> well metacity looks like a nice WM
[00:19] <sam555> histo: it was saying "password too similar"
[00:19] <sam555> something like that
[00:20] <histo> sam555: ahh yeah it does
[00:20] <usr13> ESphynx: There is startxfce4 lightdm etc.  Depends on how you want to start it.
[00:20] <ESphynx> (Yay I got performance back!)
[00:20] <usr13> ESphynx: From the console, startxfce4
[00:21] <ESphynx> the desktop is in a poor state, but once I'm in and metacity and xfce4-session is started everything is good
[00:21] <ESphynx> I was going nuts over the sluggish interface earlier
[00:21] <ESphynx> hope things work better out of the box in VirtualBox for 13.04!!
[00:21] <usr13> ESphynx: What sluggish interface was that?
[00:21] <ESphynx> usr13: that was the default Quantal installed in VirtualBox
[00:22] <usr13> ESphynx: Oh, ok.
[00:22] <ESphynx> Precise worked much much much better.
[00:22] <histo> ESphynx: any reason you need 12.10?
[00:22] <ESphynx> histo Yes I'm trying to test/fix problems for Quantal
[00:23] <ham1> :q
[00:23] <ham1> :q
[00:30] <shufflebot> I have a noob-ish ubuntu permissions problem. https://gist.github.com/9b9246c46ff26f6b2b90 <-- why
[00:31] <Pici> shufflebot: directories need to be executable for them to be traversed into
[00:31] <Ben64> shufflebot: you should really use sudo instead of running around as root
[00:33] <apos> ^^
[00:33] <genoobie> hey all
[00:33] <genoobie> looking for a stripped down distro that runs lightweight for a PIII 800MHz, and 384MB ram (laptop)
[00:33] <apos> xubuntu
[00:33] <shufflebot> Ben64: sudo -i dude ;p
[00:33] <genoobie> apos, xubuntu is a bit laggy...
[00:34] <apos> because you have 384 ram.
[00:34] <KI4RO> Is there a way to tell the software center onto which drive to install software?
[00:34] <Ben64> shufflebot: but then you used su
[00:34] <genoobie> right, but I was thinking just plain old, twm and a simplified de
[00:34] <histo> Pici: in his example puppet is x for user puppet
[00:34] <Pici> histo: but git is in the puppet group.
[00:34] <genoobie> I am running puppylinux and I'm not entirely unhappy with it
[00:34] <apos> your going to have to either use a very old distro from that era, or add a lil more ram
[00:35] <histo> Pici: ahh
[00:35] <genoobie> so apos if I bumped it up to 512MB (max) xubuntu might work nicely?
[00:35] <histo> shufflebot: puppet folder is only x for the user not the g
[00:35] <Ben64> genoobie: you could try lubuntu too
[00:36] <Ben64> not sure which is lighter
[00:36] <genoobie> ben64, I did but the video detect was borked....
[00:36] <genoobie> lubuntu
[00:36] <apos> genoobie,  yes. also it would be a good idea to adjust the "swappiness" so it wont use swap untill it absolutely has to
[00:36] <shufflebot> Ben64: yeah because I'm switching users
[00:36] <apos> lubuntu has more artwork
[00:36] <genoobie> apos more artwork than xubuntu?
[00:36] <apos> yes
[00:37] <genoobie> hmm...I have lubuntu installed on another laptop and it seems reasonable
[00:37] <genoobie> but that laptop is a dual core 1gb
[00:37] <genoobie> anyhow, apos, lubuntu, xubuntu anything more streamlined DE?
[00:37] <histo> Ben64: su = switch user
[00:37] <Ben64> histo: i know...
[00:38] <genoobie> okay, so suppose I go with lubuntu, I have a *nix that has some drivers
[00:38] <apos> no dm and just run in terminal?
[00:38] <apos> lubuntu is fine. just adjust the swapiness
[00:38] <genoobie> should I get a printout of vendors (lspci) before I install lubuntu so the drivers work ok?
[00:39] <apos> if xubuntu works, im sure lubuntu will work
[00:39] <genoobie> yeah, xubuntu didn't quite work b/c of b43 legacy driver for wireless
[00:40] <apos> remove any and all unessesary startup apps and adjust the swapiness.
[00:40] <genoobie> so apos last thing
[00:40] <genoobie> 12.10?
[00:40] <usr13> genoobie: What does a DE have to do with a WiFi driver?
[00:40] <genoobie> usr13, shouldn't have anything to do with it, but one *ntu install worked, the other didn't
[00:40] <genoobie> all same params
[00:41] <genoobie> md5s ok
[00:41] <apos> 12.10 is working fine for me. just make sure your keeping up with the updates as always
[00:41] <genoobie> okay, good enough
[00:41] <genoobie> I could use the graphical installer but it wants lots of mem
[00:41] <genoobie> planning to bump up ram to 512
[00:41] <usr13> genoobie: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[00:42] <genoobie> tx usr13
[00:42] <genoobie> okay, I am off to install!
[00:42] <genoobie> tx and gnite!
[00:45] <histo> apos: there are lighter options than lxde btw.
[00:45] <apos> i would never recommend lxde to begin with
[00:46] <histo> apos: were'nt you guys talking about lubuntu? that's lxde
[00:46] <apos> i told him to use xfce
[00:46] <apos> he wanted lubuntu
[00:47] <unsobill> guys
[00:47] <unsobill> where to drill if I to change my default telnet client
[00:47] <unsobill> ubuntu 12.4
[00:47] <apos> drill?
[00:47] <unsobill> basically i got web-interface that should start telnet windows
[00:48] <unsobill> but it just doesnt open telnet promt ...
[00:48] <unsobill> plz hurry guys :(
[00:48] <apos> use gksudo instead?
[00:49] <unsobill_> gksudo for what ?
[00:49] <histo> unsobill: I don't think you want to change your default telnet app. To do so you would update-alternatives --config telnet
[00:50] <histo> unsobill_: ^^ Although this doesn't sound like your issue
[00:50] <unsobill_> its basically a web form thats calling this command : telnet://xxx.xxx.xxx.xx:2000
[00:51] <dharrison> hi how can i find out how much swap space i have from terminal
[00:51] <unsobill_> on windows associations works and telnet window opens up
[00:51] <unsobill_> df -h ?
[00:51] <Ben64> dharrison: free -m
[00:51] <unsobill_> free -m :D right
[00:52] <histo> unsobill_: Okay well that's browser dependant
[00:52] <ItsMe__> My wireless driver doesn't work on Ubuntu 12.10,  Notebook is HP g6-2206et, what can I do ?
[00:52] <unsobill_> histo...
[00:52] <histo> unsobill_: unsobill_ ...
[00:52] <unsobill_> i need something :D plz help
[00:52] <unsobill_> u suggest using different browser ?
[00:53] <histo> !details would help. | unsobill_
[00:53] <Ben64> unsobill: just open a terminal and type "telnet <IP_ADDRESS>"
[00:53] <histo> !dtailes | unsobill_  This would help.
[00:53] <unsobill_> ben telnet works
[00:53] <unsobill_> trying firefox
[00:53] <Ben64> unsobill: then use telnet
[00:53] <histo> !details | unsobill_  This would help.
[00:53] <unsobill_> i was running it under chrome
[00:53] <histo> unsobill_: In windows or linux?
[00:53] <unsobill_> ubuntu
[00:54] <unsobill_> nothing - same result on firefox as chrome
[00:54] <unsobill_> terminal window not being activated
[00:54] <unsobill_> arfgh
[00:54] <unsobill_> i can open terminal and easily telnet but command from browser doesnt work
[00:54] <histo> unsobill_: What webform?
[00:54] <unsobill_> u want tv ?
[00:55] <unsobill_> its basically lab farm
[00:55] <unsobill_> that has lots of devices to telnet to
[00:55] <unsobill_> u pick one - click open console to it and voila - terminal opens up with telnet connection to it
[00:55] <unsobill_> thats how it is on windows :(
[00:55] <histo> unsobill_: yeah with internet explorer maybe
[00:55] <unsobill_> nah with firefox and chrome
[00:56] <unsobill_> i suspect i has to do with this command :
[00:56] <unsobill_> telnet://xxx.xxx.xxx:xxx
[00:56] <unsobill_> basically ubuntu has no idea what to do with association "telnet://"
[00:56] <unsobill_> tghats my uneducated guess
[00:56] <histo> unsobill_: It's not that ubuntu doesn't but the browsers don't
[00:57] <TheLordOfTime> unsobill, correction: the browsers don't know the connection.
[00:57] <unsobill_> should browser ask OS about associations then...
[00:57] <TheLordOfTime> unsobill, ubuntu doesn't dictate a browser's interpretation of URL prefixes (telnet://, IRC:// etc.(
[00:57] <TheLordOfTime> at least not afaikl
[00:57] <TheLordOfTime> file associations, maybe.  prefix associations, don't think so.
[00:58] <unsobill_> awesome then i need to manually use my gnome connection manager to manually telnet to 30 devices
[00:58] <histo> unsobill_: Have you thought about installing an extension in chrome or firefox?
[00:58] <unsobill_> hmm
[00:58] <unsobill_> perhaps may work
[00:58] <histo> unsobill_: here's one froma  quick google search http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Google-Chrome-Extensions/Telnet-77530.shtml  Althought I would just look int he play store.
[00:59] <histo> unsobill_: also you could add hostnames for each ip.. Then just telnet whateverhostname   in a terminal
[00:59] <unsobill_> i guess i just use terminal manager if nothing else would work fine
[01:00] <unsobill_> no time for drilling
[01:00] <histo> unsobill_: I would look for an extension.
[01:00] <unsobill_> im on ubuntu - no luxury of simplicity :D
[01:00] <histo> unsobill_: would take less than a few minutes.
[01:00] <unsobill_> i installed it
[01:00] <unsobill_> its like 2x2 black box
[01:00] <unsobill_> :D
[01:00] <unsobill_> running in webform
[01:01] <histo> unsobill_: I recomended searching googles extensions. That was just he first one I saw on some 3rd party site.
[01:01] <unsobill_> i just stick to gnome connection manager and will wrrite script to telnet to 30 devices and open 30 windows there...
[01:01] <massey_> Hey, so a while ago I installed skype and while apt-get told me the installation failed the program worked fine. However, now when I try to use apt-get I'm told that certain packages conflict with one another and to run `apt-get -f install` to fix the problem
[01:01] <kitten_mittens> guyss
[01:01] <unsobill_> weird really that theres no way to associate prefix like that
[01:01] <massey_> This is what happens when I run said command http://pastebin.com/6WGFnT6B
[01:01] <unsobill_> in windows u can...
[01:01] <unsobill_> anyway
[01:01] <massey_> any ideas how to fix my package manager?
[01:01] <histo> unsobill_: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/search-extensions/telnet
[01:01] <kitten_mittens> its been over a week now and i havent been able to get ubuntu to work on my laptop or pc
[01:02] <histo> unsobill_: In windows you get viruses and adware also
[01:02] <unsobill_> true :D
[01:02] <unsobill_> anyway histo i insalled that one
[01:02] <unsobill_> its fine
[01:02] <kitten_mittens> i thought it was working fine of my pc, i just updated and now im stuck on the purple ubuntu screen
[01:02] <Ben64> i dunno, i clicked a telnet link in firefox and it asked me what to do with it
[01:02] <unsobill_> see
[01:02] <unsobill_> i had that too
[01:02] <kitten_mittens> like its frozen...
[01:02] <unsobill_> but then i press save settings whaever
[01:02] <unsobill_> BEN does it open telnet window in terminal ?
[01:03] <unsobill_> i guess my settings saved now how do i reset ?
[01:03] <kitten_mittens> can anyone help me?
[01:03] <unsobill_> reinstall chrome
[01:03] <unsobill_> kitten whats up
[01:03] <unsobill_> kitten burn ubuntu cd with speed of 4
[01:03] <unsobill_> or less
[01:03] <kitten_mittens> i did
[01:04] <kitten_mittens> i also did usb
[01:04] <unsobill_> get disk
[01:04] <unsobill_> that works
[01:04] <Ben64> !enter | unsobill_
[01:04] <unsobill_> harddrive issues perhaps or some driver
[01:04] <kitten_mittens> ut was working all last night untill just dow i updated
[01:04] <histo> kitten_mittens: can you ctrl+akt+F1-F6 and get to a tty?
[01:04] <unsobill_> when u boot do u have different options to load different kernet ?
[01:04] <unsobill_> anyway Ben can u answer ?
[01:04] <Ben64> firefox prefrences
[01:04] <kitten_mittens> no its completely frozen before ubuntu starts
[01:04] <histo> kitten_mittens: ctrl+alt+F1 through F6
[01:05] <unsobill_> in firefox after starting telnet did it worked ?
[01:05] <kitten_mittens> as in.. caps lock wont even turn the capslock light on
[01:05] <histo> kitten_mittens: it's locked up. Boot the computer and hold the shift key before the purple screen.  You should get a grub menu
[01:05] <unsobill_> ben thats it probably firefox settings
[01:05] <unsobill_> let me look applications
[01:06] <unsobill_> ben !!!!
[01:06] <unsobill_> telnet - use KtelnetService (default)
[01:06] <unsobill_> what should i cahnge that to ?
[01:06] <unsobill_> how to find out current default terminal ?
[01:06] <kitten_mittens> its not working
[01:06] <Ben64> i dunno, ask google
[01:06] <unsobill_> arfh :P
[01:06] <Ben64> nobody uses telnet anymore
[01:07] <unsobill_> poop
[01:07] <unsobill_> master
[01:07] <histo> unsobill_: update-alternatives --get-selections
[01:07] <unsobill_> thnx histo
[01:07] <kitten_mittens> *cries*
[01:07] <histo> unsobill_: You can see all your defaults
[01:07] <histo> kitten_mittens: Why cry did you boot to a grub menu yet?
[01:07] <kitten_mittens> it wont work
[01:07] <Ben64> it will
[01:08] <unsobill_> histo, update-alternatives --get-selections
[01:08] <kitten_mittens> it wont
[01:08] <histo> kitten_mittens: What won't work?
[01:08] <unsobill_> oops
[01:08] <kitten_mittens> it just goes streight to the purple screen
[01:08] <unsobill_> histo, telnet auto /usr/bin/telnet.netkit
[01:08] <Ben64> then you need to press shift earlier/more
[01:09] <kitten_mittens> ok it worked.. i went rapid fire on both
[01:09] <histo> unsobill_: yes that's fine
[01:09] <unsobill_> oka ywhats KtelnetService
[01:09] <histo> kitten_mittens: okay do you have more than one option for kernel?
[01:09] <unsobill_> i got that as promt - how can i change it to something that will work lol
[01:09] <histo> kitten_mittens: you can try booting an older one.
[01:09] <kitten_mittens> i dont know what a kennel is but i have ubuntu advanced options for ubuntu and system settup
[01:10] <histo> kitten_mittens: can you take a picture of the screen and paste it?
[01:10] <unsobill_> histo I want to select open with Terminal but its not there...
[01:10] <histo> !paste | kitten_mittens
[01:11] <kitten_mittens> i have no camera
[01:11] <histo> unsobill_: I have no idea what you are talking about.  Just please use a addon for firefox or an extension in chrome.  There are many. That functionality is not built into linux versions of those browsers aparently.
[01:11] <histo> kitten_mittens: cell phone w/ camera?
[01:12] <Ben64> unsobill: you should really google your problem, solution is the first link
[01:12] <histo> Ben64: You may want to tell him what you searched for?
[01:12] <kitten_mittens> theres only 3 options, 'ubuntu', 'advanced options for ubuntu' and 'system settup'
[01:13] <Ben64> "ubuntu open telnet url"
[01:13] <histo> lol
[01:13] <kitten_mittens> and e to edit commands and c for command line
[01:13] <Ben64> its not rocket surgery
[01:13] <histo> kitten_mittens: hold on one second i'm checking something on that.
[01:13] <Guest80061> Hi, I have a question about installing Ubuntu on USB w/ persistent file.  When you're doing updates/saving to folders under home folder/etc. does ubuntu automatically save it to the persistent file(casper-rw)?
[01:13] <histo> kitten_mittens: also what version of ubuntu did you install
[01:13] <kitten_mittens> 12.10
[01:13] <histo> Guest80061: yes
[01:14] <Ben64> did 12.10 change the grub menu?
[01:14] <Guest80061> Another question: How can I get my main hard drive to mount when it won't?
[01:15] <histo> kitten_mittens: do you not see something like this http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-JkW4rtv2kGA/T2iNGdO6MLI/AAAAAAAADUY/0NlBNgwJJgQ/s1600/GRUB2-boot-menu.png
[01:15] <histo> Ben64: man friggen 12.10
[01:15] <Ben64> Guest80061: what do you mean "when it won't"
[01:15] <kitten_mittens> yeah but differnt options
[01:15] <ElixirVitae> Hi~
[01:15] <mangdood> What ways are there of changing GNOME 3 settings? I haven't installed it but I'd like to be able to change settings to my preference
[01:15] <histo> kitten_mittens: ahh they changed that in 12.10 select advanced options
[01:16] <kitten_mittens> and my grub is version 2.00-7ubuntu11
[01:16] <Guest80061> When I right click on it from the home folder and click mount I get an error message "unable to mount volume"
[01:16] <ElixirVitae> I was wondering whether setting up a new system from minimal CD and adding packages or deleting certain packages from a normal install have difference.
[01:16] <ElixirVitae> Does it?
[01:16] <histo> kitten_mittens: under advanced options you should be able to select an older kernel version
[01:16] <histo> ElixirVitae: yes gets rid of a lot of bloat
[01:17] <kitten_mittens> ok, theres versions 3.5.0-22 and 3.5.0-17 and both have a recovery option too
[01:17] <histo> ElixirVitae: you can completely customize what's installed
[01:17] <histo> kitten_mittens: slect 3.5.0-17  non-recovery
[01:17] <histo> kitten_mittens: see if the system boots without errors
[01:18] <kitten_mittens> it froze
[01:18] <ElixirVitae> Can't I get rid of the said bloat after install by hunting them down via synaptic?
[01:18] <kitten_mittens> it says loading linux 3.5.0-17-generic... then under it says loading initial ramdisk ... and its frozen
[01:19] <ElixirVitae> I meant normal install, btw.
[01:19] <histo> ElixirVitae: Yeah I guess just a longer way of doing it.
[01:20] <histo> ElixirVitae: like if you are going to just install ubuntu-desktop from a minimal install then there is no difference.
[01:20] <ElixirVitae> I wonder whether they will be more or less equivalent.
[01:20] <histo> ElixirVitae: if you are going to start with a cli system and work up then there would be. I'm sure you'd miss a bunch of stuff going backwards.
[01:20] <ElixirVitae> I sure won't install ubuntu-desktop :)
[01:21] <histo> ElixirVitae: Like what are you trying to accomplish in total?
[01:21] <ElixirVitae> Another question, do configs change between 32 and 64 bit systems?
[01:22] <histo> ElixirVitae: no
[01:22] <ElixirVitae> I want to get a leaner system, and learn more in the process, but wonder whether the hassle would be worth it.
[01:22] <ElixirVitae> If it doesn't give me much benefit, I'd rather install normal and delete some parts.
[01:22] <azbyin> hi all.. How do i ensure that *all* logged in users are able to read/write to a usb disk i have just plugged in?
[01:22] <kitten_mittens> :(
[01:23] <JokesOnYou77> Hi all, how do I start an ssh session and then background it?  (And then bring it back to foreground and/or end it when I want to get rid of it)
[01:23] <histo> ElixirVitae: You could always create a virtual machine and install a minimals system and work up.. Ex: install xorg  then whatever de you wanted.  You don't have to use a login manager for instance or you can pick a lighter one.
[01:23] <histo> kitten_mittens: what did it still lock up?
[01:23] <kitten_mittens> it says loading linux 3.5.0-17-generic... then under it says loading initial ramdisk ... and its frozen
[01:23] <histo> kitten_mittens: okay time to try recovery mode
[01:23] <ElixirVitae> Great, I should test it in VM, that way I can check whether my configs carry over seamlessly as well.
[01:24] <kitten_mittens> mm im just googling it first to see why its happening
[01:24] <ElixirVitae> Thanks histo, much appreciated.
[01:24] <histo> JokesOnYou77: ctlr+z    will dump you back to a prompt then type bg   to background
[01:24] <somsip> JokesOnYou77: use something like screen or tmux, if I understand what you need correctly
[01:24] <kitten_mittens> but my nets going super slow, wont load the pages -_-
[01:24] <histo> JokesOnYou77: fg will bring it back to fore ground.
[01:25] <histo> kitten_mittens: could be many things. Bad hardware or software... We hve to test.
[01:25] <kitten_mittens> its not hardware, i have a nevery expensive motherboard that tells me whenever somethings wrong hardware wise
[01:26] <JokesOnYou77> histo, ctrl+z doesn't seem to work with an ssh session
[01:27] <histo> kitten_mittens: I wouldn't rule it out. Since you are experiencing these wierd issues.  But you need to try booting to recovery mode.  It should dump you at a terminal.  Then we can see if all the updates installed properly.
[01:27] <histo> JokesOnYou77: hold up let me try
[01:27] <kitten_mittens> ok
[01:28] <histo> JokesOnYou77: I would use screen then.
[01:28] <histo> JokesOnYou77: I didn't even think that it would forward the ctrl+z to the remote session
[01:28] <histo> duh
[01:29] <histo> JokesOnYou77: if you want to use jobs ie ctrl+z you have to ~ then Ctrl+z
[01:29] <JokesOnYou77> histo, I figured it out.  I can just use & and then fg the job number it gives when I want to get it back :)
[01:30] <histo> JokesOnYou77: ~ is the escape character
[01:30] <histo> JokesOnYou77: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/42365/how-do-i-background-an-ssh-session/42367#42367
[01:30] <histo> JokesOnYou77: although you still should checkout screen much more powerfull.
[01:30] <Ben64> yes, screen
[01:31] <JokesOnYou77> histo, thanks.  Yeah, my solution didn't quite seem to work, I could get the ssh session back just with fg but then something funky happened with the prompt
[01:32] <JokesOnYou77> And yes, I realize that screen is generally better but I'm using my GUI atm, and I don't like multiple gui terminal windows running AND screen
[01:32] <histo> JokesOnYou77: when you bring it back hit enter for the screen to redraw. But ~ then ctrl+z works here for me
[01:32] <kitten_mittens> histo im in the recovery menu, now what
[01:32] <histo> JokesOnYou77: What I use is screen on the remote machine.   So I can disconnect the ssh session. Then if I want to come back I just ssh back in and reattach the screen starting where I left off.
[01:33] <histo> kitten_mittens: No under Advanced options for Ubuntu boot one of the (reocover mode) kernels
[01:34] <unsobill> OH GOD FINALLY
[01:34] <unsobill> PUTTY SAVED ME
[01:34] <FloodBot1> unsobill: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:34] <kitten_mittens> histo i did, it have me a recovery menu
[01:34] <unsobill> spent 1 hour trying to get firefox to associate telnet or ssh links under ubuntu
[01:34] <unsobill> fuking hell
[01:34] <unsobill> putty FTW
[01:34] <JokesOnYou77> histo, ahhh yes, I see what you mean.  I'm actually starting an ssh session with a dynamically forwarded port to the remot host so I can use it as a SOCKS proxy from browsing on my local host.  I don't have anything to really DO on the remote machine, I just need the tunnel open
[01:35] <histo> JokesOnYou77: then use -N so you don't get a prompt
[01:35] <histo> kitten_mittens: what are your options?
[01:36] <kitten_mittens> resume normal boot, clean, dpkg, grub, network, root, system summery
[01:36] <kitten_mittens> im guessing root? it says drop to root shell promt
[01:36] <JokesOnYou77> histo, perfect! ty :)
[01:36] <histo> kitten_mittens: How is this computer connected to network?
[01:36] <kitten_mittens> wireless
[01:37] <histo> kitten_mittens: is there a netroot option?
[01:37] <JokesOnYou77> histo, w8, but that doesn't give me back my local prompt :/
[01:37] <ekristen> are their any web based repo management tools?
[01:37] <kitten_mittens> no
[01:37] <ekristen> also is there any way to run a repo mirror but be able to approve/disapprove packages before allowing servers to download them?
[01:37] <histo> kitten_mittens: what's under network?  Can you configure your network card. And then drop to root shell that would be the goal here. Sorry it's been awhile since i've been in there.
[01:38] <kitten_mittens> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/images/fixsudoprecise03.jpg
[01:38] <ekristen> I'm looking to run several ubuntu servers internally in a production env, and want to control which packages get advertised for update
[01:38] <histo> kitten_mittens: yeah enable networking and setup your network
[01:39] <kitten_mittens> im confused -_-
[01:39] <histo> kitten_mittens: kitten_mittens use the up and down arrows and hilight network then press enter
[01:40] <kitten_mittens> i did it and it sayd clean, 205505/14581760 files, 3429860/58320640 blocks
[01:40] <kitten_mittens> and it just stoppderscoreed, i have a flashing un
[01:40] <histo> kitten_mittens: What when you clicked networking?
[01:40] <kitten_mittens> yeah
[01:40] <GoGetOperated> Hey
[01:41] <kitten_mittens> i just have a flashing underscore
[01:41] <GoGetOperated> ./Go~Get\.
[01:41] <histo> kitten_mittens: Do you still have a cd lying around that you can boot to?  It would be a lot easier than walking you through configuring a network in command line if you just booted that and we repaired from there.
[01:41] <kitten_mittens> ok, i dont have cd i have usb for my pc
[01:42] <histo> kitten_mittens: or usb. I can't remember what you staid you installed from?
[01:42] <kitten_mittens> because it has no cdrom
[01:42] <histo> kitten_mittens: yeah boot to the usb drive you installed from.
[01:42] <Brewski> I'm looking for a QR barcode scanner solution for Ubuntu. We're looking to scan QR codes into a web form instead of manually typing them, so a "keyboard wedge" would be preferred (like credit card readers).
[01:42] <GoGetOperated> What ar you trying to do
[01:42] <Brewski> I know the software is there, is there hardware compatibility for any USB scanners yet?
[01:42] <kitten_mittens> done histo
[01:43] <GoGetOperated> There is a thing called Google look for ith there
[01:43] <histo> kitten_mittens: I have to go but basically you are going to try. Booting from usb.  Setup your network so it gets online. Mount the hard drive where ubuntu is installed.  chroot /dev/sdx replace sdx with whatever your hdd is.  Then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.
[01:43] <kitten_mittens> ok..
[01:43] <histo> Brewski: Barcode scanners are just detected as keyboards most should work with linux.
[01:44] <NewUbun> hello
[01:44] <Brewski> Sweet! I'll have to buy one and test
[01:44] <Brewski> thx
[01:44] <NewUbun> need some help
[01:44] <kitten_mittens> error, invalid enviroment blook, press any key to continue?
[01:44] <histo> Brewski: like you can scan barcodes into a text document
[01:44] <histo> kitten_mittens: what where?
[01:45] <kitten_mittens> OMFG THIS IS STUPID
[01:45] <histo> kitten_mittens: I really recomend doing a memtest.  Or I suspect your original iso you downloaded was corrupt.
[01:45] <NewUbun> yesterday i installed openproject from sourceforge but it is not workin.. I tried again today and got this msg
[01:45] <histo> kitten_mittens: but I have to go.
[01:45] <kitten_mittens> MY bios goes so fasgt its literally impossible to load the boot menu thing, or open the bios
[01:45] <kitten_mittens> ok thank you
[01:45] <histo> kitten_mittens: perhaps someone else can help.
[01:46] <histo> kitten_mittens: hit the shift key and get the grub menu again and run a memtest
[01:49] <NewUbun> "your java vendor is "oracle corporation". to run OpenProj, you nee dthe sun java iplementation. The auto-detect java runtime used is "java". If you hae a newer version, you can anually cane it by editing the "Java_exe" property in te auto-detection file, "$HOME/.openproj/run.conf" Otherwise, to force auto-detection again you can remove "$Home/.openproj/run.conf"
[01:49] <NewUbun> can someone help
[01:49] <NewUbun> I am new to ubuntu
[01:50] <NewUbun> anyone
[01:50] <NewUbun> ..............
[01:50] <konam> Audacious is incredibly slow to start (a full 20 seconds) after I try to play songs with it be it from the "open with" menu from nautilus or simply starting it through the dash. I don't know why this is, does somebody else experience this? My machine is decent (dell inspiron 14z N411z), and my ubuntu version 12.10
[01:51] <cainus> can anyone tell me the magic behind ln -s and why it never wants to work for me?  isn't it just `ln -s /real/path /pretend/path`  ?
[01:51] <NewUbun> anyone...
[01:52] <NewUbun> I a new to ubuntu and having a small problem with Java
[01:52] <solrac> how do you open firefox in terminal mode
[01:52] <jrib> cainus: sure.
[01:52] <matt> hello my name is matt
[01:52] <NewUbun> can someone help
[01:53] <Guest33132> i need some help
[01:53] <kitten_mittens> can someone help me
[01:53] <solrac> help how do you open firefox in terminal mode
[01:53] <jrib> cainus: so do you have a specific example you are having trouble with?
[01:54] <kitten_mittens> i got told to do this: Booting from usb.  Setup your network so it gets online. Mount the hard drive where ubuntu is installed.  chroot /dev/sdx replace sdx with whatever your hdd is.  Then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:54] <kitten_mittens> but how do i find out what my hard drive is
[01:54] <NewUbun> write firefox and press enter
[01:54] <cainus> jrib: yeah, but it'll just be some different paths from what I pasted
[01:54] <kitten_mittens> anyone?
[01:55] <NewUbun> is there anyone here that can help
[01:55] <cainus> jrib: sudo ln -s build-couchdb/build/etc/logrotate.d/couchdb /etc/logrotate.d/couchdb
[01:55] <cainus> NewUbun: just ask your question
[01:55] <jrib> cainus: you're giving a relative path, make sure that that makes sense relative to the target
[01:55] <Guest33132> im trying to burn an image iso of the newest ubuntu from a windows pc to use as a bootable new installation on my hp laptop that is having issues with windows. i installed a version of ubuntu i had from 2011 on the laptop and it worked except it is out of date and cannot be upgraded. so like i said i downloaded and am trying to burn the iso using nero 9 on a windows pc to then use to boot and install the 12 ubuntu on my laptop any
[01:56] <cainus> jrib: it only makes sense relative to my cwd... should I just give absolute paths?
[01:56] <jrib> cainus: you can use absolute paths if you want, yes
[01:57] <kitten_mittens> i feel as if im asking a pretty simple question
[01:57] <cainus> jrib: ahhh okay... so what does it do with the path?  writes it into the symbolic link?
[01:57] <cainus> jrib: so my relative paths wouldn't wortk
[01:57] <Guest33132> any help?
[01:58] <jrib> cainus: you can use relative paths, but they have to be relative to /etc/logrotate.d/couchdb, not your cwd
[01:58] <solrac> how do you open firefox in terminal mode
[01:58] <solrac> help
[01:58] <NewUbun> write firefox and press enter
[01:58] <solrac> no display
[01:58] <cainus> jrib: ha alright... thanks :)  I've been wondering for years wth I've been doing wrong :)
[01:58] <OerHeks> Guest33132, newest ubuntu 12.10 needs a DVD+r
[01:59] <cainus> solrac: firefox doesn't run in terminal mode
[01:59] <Guest33132> so just burn the iso image to a dvdr?
[01:59] <kitten_mittens> i got told to do this: Booting from usb.  Setup your network so it gets online. Mount the hard drive where ubuntu is installed.  chroot /dev/sdx replace sdx with whatever your hdd is.  Then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:59] <kitten_mittens> but how do i find out what my hard drive is
[01:59] <OerHeks> Guest33132, yes, or use a usb stick if your pc can boot from it.
[01:59] <NewUbun> help plz
[02:00] <Guest33132> i just dont have a stick handy but thanks ill try that and get back thanks.
[02:00] <Justin_jtb7rmv> hi buddy get you to ssh in and set my unrealircd server up?
[02:00] <NewUbun> I a new to ubuntu and having a small problem with Java
[02:00] <kitten_mittens> omg i wanna hit someone..
[02:00] <Justin_jtb7rmv> hi all get you to ssh in and set my unrealircd server up?
[02:01] <NewUbun> help plz
[02:01] <NewUbun> I a new to ubuntu and having a small problem with Java versions
[02:01] <kitten_mittens> nobody helps newubun
[02:01] <NewUbun> nope
[02:01] <ItsMe__> :D
[02:01] <ItsMe__> what kind of help ?
[02:01] <ItsMe__> just ask :p
[02:01] <kitten_mittens> i have like 300 times :)
[02:01] <NewUbun> linux mint wa much better in this regard
[02:01] <OerHeks> kitten_mittens, fdisk -l should tell your drives
[02:01] <ItsMe__> and no one helps me too :p
[02:02] <NewUbun> "your java vendor is "oracle corporation". to run OpenProj, you nee dthe sun java iplementation. The auto-detect java runtime used is "java". If you hae a newer version, you can anually cane it by editing the "Java_exe" property in te auto-detection file, "$HOME/.openproj/run.conf" Otherwise, to force auto-detection again you can remove "$Home/.openproj/run.conf"
[02:02] <NewUbun> i installed open proj an it wont run
[02:02] <OerHeks> openproject and closed oracle java .. i guess you need openJDK
[02:03] <kitten_mittens> i got told to do this: Booting from usb.  Setup your network so it gets online. Mount the hard drive where ubuntu is installed.  chroot /dev/sdx replace sdx with whatever your hdd is.  Then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:03] <kitten_mittens> but when i do choot /dev/sda it says not a directory
[02:04] <gmachine_24> Hello again. I am booted from a live 12.04 LTS USB flash drive and I need to overwrite the hard on this laptop; I am doing to use "dd" and I know the CLI command to overwrite the drive with zeros or randomly . . . but I want to know how to overwrite the drive multiple times. Thanks.
[02:04] <solrac> so you can open a browser onli in graphic mode?
[02:04] <gmachine_24> *hard drive
[02:04] <gmachine_24> and 'going to use'
[02:05] <kitten_mittens> whys it so impossible to get help
[02:05] <NewUbun> anyone
[02:06] <kitten_mittens> i guess nobodys helping today
[02:06] <ItsMe__> NewUbun,  how have u tried to install ? Did u tried this http://bit.ly/9VxNou ?
[02:06] <NewUbun> i really want to start typing in CAP
[02:06] <gmachine_24> kitten_mittens, I don't know. what happens when you do $sudo fdisk -l?
[02:06] <gmachine_24> kitten_mittens, forgive me if you have answered this already. I just got here.
[02:06] <kitten_mittens> it lists my /dev/sda drive
[02:07] <gmachine_24> kitten_mittens, well, ............. can you post the result in pastebin? It lists details........ and those are important
[02:07] <NewUbun> ItsMe: i downloaded it, changed it to .deb and installed it
[02:07] <NewUbun> but looks like it has a problem with my Java
[02:07] <kitten_mittens> the problem is when i turn on my pc, it freezes, so we tryed a differnt kennal thing in grub and it just locks up at loading initial ramdisk
[02:08] <NewUbun> how do i fix tat
[02:08] <ItsMe__> did u changet what to .deb ?
[02:08] <kitten_mittens> i got told to do this: Booting from usb.  Setup your network so it gets online. Mount the hard drive where ubuntu is installed.  chroot /dev/sdx replace sdx with whatever your hdd is.  Then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:08] <gmachine_24> kitten_mittens, did you try a command prompt and then do a filecheck?
[02:08] <kitten_mittens> i dont know how to do that
[02:09] <NewUbun> I changed the folder from rpm to deb
[02:09] <NewUbun> the zip folder i had downloaded was in rpm
[02:09] <gmachine_24> kitten_mittens, well............ if you get to the Grub splash screen . . . you can choose (usually) to go to a command line... there should be that option for every kernel version you have on your drive
[02:10] <kitten_mittens> yeah we tryed that
[02:10] <kitten_mittens> well we tryed a differnt kernal thing
[02:10] <gmachine_24> kitten_mittens, if not, if you have a live USB boot drive - or even a cd - you can boot into the live version and then to a file check from a terminal
[02:11] <kitten_mittens> thts what im doing now
[02:11] <NewUbun> its_me... you here?
[02:11] <NewUbun> anyone????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
[02:11] <ItsMe__> I'm searching NewUbun
[02:11] <gmachine_24> *do a file check from a terminal as in $cntrl+atl+t and then $sudo e2fsck -ef /dev/sda or whatever
[02:11] <NewUbun> ok
[02:12] <gmachine_24> NewUbun - how did you change the folder?
[02:12] <gmachine_24> patience! | NewUbun
[02:12] <gmachine_24> er
[02:12] <gmachine_24> !patience | NewUbun
[02:12] <NewUbun> let me check the command i used
[02:12] <somsip> !patience | NewUbun
[02:12] <kittenmittenz> gmachine_24 http://pastebin.com/NWveRCAm
[02:12] <NewUbun> i am new to all this
[02:12] <gmachine_24> somsip, thank you :)
[02:14] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, did you just change your user name?
[02:14] <loren> I am looking for help with Archive Manager.  What channel is most likely to help?
[02:15] <kittenmittenz> no this is my pc on the live usb, the other is on my laptop, the  key on my pc keyboar oesnt work so i have to use a macro on my game pa which is annoying so i was using the laptop
[02:15] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, well, the instructions you received before don't make sense to me. Your /dev/sda drive is not formatted or partitioned so you can't mount it anywhere.
[02:15] <kittenmittenz> nooo\
[02:15] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, no what
[02:15] <gmachine_24> or nooo\ what?
[02:16] <ItsMe__> NewUbun, go to your home folder than open .openproj/run.conf
[02:16] <kitten_mittens> my sda drive is my sda drive..a s in.. its where i was running ubuntu just fine yesterday until i updated and restarted then couldnt turn back on
[02:16] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, well it looks like it's shot.
[02:16] <kitten_mittens> :(
[02:16] <kitten_mittens> how do i check my hard drive for errors
[02:16] <ItsMe__> then change the line that is 'JAVA_OPTS="-Xms128m -Xmx768m" ' to 'JAVA_OPTS="-Djava.vendor=Sun -Xms128m -Xmx768m" '
[02:16] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, the bare drive?
[02:17] <kittenmittenz> yeah, its an ss
[02:17] <kitten_mittens> its an ssd
[02:17] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, $sudo e2fsck -v -c -c /dev/sda
[02:17] <ItsMe__> it runs on my ubuntu now NewUbun  :)
[02:17] <gmachine_24> you need to do the -c 2x
[02:17] <gmachine_24> it is a quick check
[02:18] <gmachine_24> although..................
[02:18] <kittenmittenz> it keeps saying that it is in use
[02:18] <gmachine_24> yeah. can you umount it?
[02:18] <kittenmittenz> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo e2fsck -v -c -c /dev/sda
[02:18] <kittenmittenz> e2fsck 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012)
[02:18] <kittenmittenz> /dev/sda is in use.
[02:18] <kittenmittenz> e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.
[02:18] <kittenmittenz> i presse the little eject button?
[02:18] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, as in $sudo umount /dev/sda
[02:19] <ItsMe__> NewUbun,  hey have u did it ?
[02:19] <kittenmittenz> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo umount /dev/sda
[02:19] <kittenmittenz> umount: /dev/sda: not mounted
[02:19] <kittenmittenz> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo e2fsck -v -c -c /dev/sda
[02:19] <kittenmittenz> e2fsck 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012)
[02:19] <kittenmittenz> /dev/sda is in use.
[02:19] <kittenmittenz> e2fsck: Cannot continue, aborting.
[02:19] <FloodBot1> kittenmittenz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:19] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, I think you probably have to use dd.
[02:20] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, I think you probably have to use "dd", the command, that is.
[02:20] <kitten_mittens> whats the dd?
[02:20] <NewUbun> nope
[02:20] <ItsMe__> nope what :D
[02:20] <gmachine_24> hang on. let me check this. are you ready to accept you might not get your data back off that drive?
[02:20] <kittenmittenz> that is okay, i only got it working yesteray
[02:20] <NewUbun> i could not find the answer and dono how to fix the problemm
[02:21] <Guest33132> burnt the iso to dvd and it still wants to just boot to my old ubuntu release that is out of date....need help...
[02:21] <ItsMe__> NewUbun, just try it man, it works. resource : http://bit.ly/T7KjW4
[02:22] <ItsMe__> could u open the /home/.openproj/run.conf  file ?
[02:22] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, then why not just reinstall Ubuntu?
[02:22] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, it seems much easier
[02:23] <ItsMe__> when you're your home folder press "ctrl+h" to see the hidden folders , NewUbun
[02:23] <kittenmittenz> because ive been trying to get it working for the past week an it wornt i keep getting errors, the image is fine i check the m5 an ive ownloae it like 10 times now
[02:23] <subb1> Hi guys.
[02:23] <ItsMe__> then open the .openproj folder and run.conf file and change the line, NewUbun  m'kay ? :)
[02:24] <kittenmittenz> like graphics rivers errors, rea onl6 file system errors, now this error
[02:24] <gmachine_24> the gpt listed in your fdisk output is, I guess, a shortcut or abbreviation for GUID - which is partition information of some sort I'm not up on
[02:24] <kittenmittenz> noboy can help me :/
[02:24] <kittenmittenz> i wante ubuntu, i also tye linux mint, it int work either
[02:24] <subb1> I'm trying to remove CUPS from Lucid. But ubuntu-desktop is also among the list of packages that will be removed. How to prevent that being removed and remove cups only?
[02:24] <kittenmittenz> i guess ill go back to winows, thanks anyway
[02:25] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, hang on. if you're willing to wipe the drive ........ you can try the dd command. hang tight.
[02:26] <ItsMe__> windows is bad man, you can't learn anything with that :D just follow the instructions of gmachine_24  :)
[02:26] <Guest33132> any help?
[02:26] <ItsMe__> NewUbun,  ????
[02:26] <ItsMe__> any help about what Guest33132 ?
[02:27] <bravis> l
[02:28] <pertinate_> I need some help, if you guys don't mind. :o
[02:28] <ItsMe__> ok
[02:28] <ItsMe__> :)
[02:28] <Guest33132> i just burnt the newest iso of ubuntu to a dvd to install it into my lapotop and it still wants to load up with my old ubuntu the i had a dvd for that is unsupported now. and the boot option is set to boot from dvd.
[02:28] <pertinate_> I'm in need of enabling my two extra buttons on my mouse: http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/d/comfort-mouse-4500 this is the mouse I'm using.
[02:29] <Hamled> so I'm trying to configure a machine with two ethernet interfaces, both with static IPs. When I do an ifup -a it brings up both interfaces and sets a route for default using one interface, but I want it to use the other instead. I've added such a statement to the correct interface in /etc/network/interfaces but it's still just using the other  interface
[02:30] <Hamled> how can I figure out what is causing it to setup a route for default on one of the interfaces automatically?
[02:30] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, ok, try this
[02:31] <Guest33132> ?
[02:31] <kittenmittenz> ok
[02:31] <ItsMe__> Guest33132,  did u checked md5 ? And are u sure you wrote the iso correctly ? I think u can't see boot menu from dvd ?
[02:31] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, ok, try  $sudo badblocks -v /dev/sda
[02:32] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, ok, try  if you cannot do that, you might have to install the program e2fsprogs as in $sudo apt-get install e2fsprogs
[02:32] <Guest33132> im saying i changed the boot menu in the pc to boot from dvd first. would md5 been when burning or?
[02:33] <kittenmittenz> Checking blocks 0 to 250059095
[02:33] <kittenmittenz> Checking for bad blocks (read-only test):
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[02:33] <kittenmittenz> its not oing anything though..
[02:33] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, yes, that is the one
[02:34] <gmachine_24> do you just have a blinking curser?
[02:34] <ItsMe__> Guest33132,  u must use md5checksum programs to check iso file , search on google "ubuntu md5 check".
[02:34] <gmachine_24> cursor
[02:34] <akar1m> hello guys
[02:34] <kittenmittenz> ya
[02:34] <akar1m> I want tou extend my screen
[02:34] <NewUbun> ItsMe__u ehre
[02:34] <akar1m> I am using ATI VGA card
[02:34] <ItsMe__> If it's correct, u should have burned iso file wrongly i guess.
[02:34] <akar1m> how can I do that ?
[02:35] <ItsMe__> NewUbun,  yeah but i must go :)
[02:35] <ItsMe__> did u try it ?
[02:35] <akar1m> in windows ctrl+p and click extend option
[02:35] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, at the end of the terminal line $ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ or on a blank line?
[02:35] <NewUbun> sorry guys I was trying to copy the nae
[02:35] <NewUbun> name
[02:35] <kittenmittenz> blank?
[02:35] <akar1m> I am using my laptop's screen as a second display
[02:35] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, if it says it's checking then it's checking
[02:35] <kittenmittenz> after rea onlytest: it just has a squar box
[02:35] <akar1m> I got HDMI output
[02:36] <NewUbun> yes but how do i  get to the file... I tried in terminal but could not find the .openproj file
[02:36] <evansch0> i need some help o.o
[02:36] <ItsMe__> don't use terminal, go to your home folder and press "ctrl+h"  then search ".openproj" folder and open the "run.conf" file, NewUbun
[02:37] <evansch0> i need to find out how to connect a device like a usb as a drive like c:\ or D:\
[02:37] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, it is checking. also, when you boot from a live install on a usb drive or cd/dvd there is a choice to do a hard drive check
[02:38] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, that is one of your options.
[02:38] <NewUbun> i used the cd / then cd home and then cd newubun but after that when i tried ls i did not get any file by the name .openproj
[02:38] <kittenmittenz> ill o that next
[02:39] <NewUbun> ok
[02:39] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, and............ if you don't like any of those......... you can do $sudo touch /forcefsck which will force the computer to do a hard drive check on your next reboot
[02:39] <evansch0> so does anyone know how to connect a usb as a main drive
[02:39] <gmachine_24> evansch0, as in you want to boot from it or what
[02:39] <NewUbun> found it
[02:39] <NewUbun> 1 sec
[02:39] <ItsMe__> ok
[02:40] <evansch0> no i want it to be used instead of my hard drive
[02:40] <usr13> evansch0: You mean to set a static mount point?
[02:40] <evansch0> no idea
[02:40] <evansch0> :/
[02:40] <gmachine_24> evansch0, is your os going to be on this drive?
[02:40] <usr13> evansch0: You want to move your /home/directory to it?
[02:40] <evansch0> yes
[02:40] <evansch0> i think
[02:40] <gmachine_24> lol
[02:40] <gmachine_24> yes, to which question
[02:41] <gmachine_24> or both
[02:41] <NewUbun> should i cane it to ""-Djava.vendor = Sun-Xms128m-Xmx768m"
[02:41] <NewUbun> or just Sun-Xms....
[02:41] <evansch0> ok first let me tell you some background on my laptop
[02:41] <evansch0> its an hp 4410t
[02:41] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, depending on your cpu speed and etc. that disk check will take awhile
[02:41] <ItsMe__> -Djava.vendor = Sun-Xms128m-Xmx768m" , it must be this
[02:42] <evansch0> 2 gb on the hard drive xD
[02:42] <usr13> evansch0: For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[02:42] <kittenmittenz> i have an 8core 3.5 ghz?
[02:42] <NewUbun> ok
[02:42] <evansch0> i have 2 ghz
[02:43] <evansch0> the whole hard drive space is basically just the graphical ram
[02:43] <usr13> evansch0: Do you have a portion of your /home/directory that is very large?  Like /home/evansch0/videos  or /home/evansch0/music ?
[02:43] <ugtarmas> apt-get install yum
[02:44] <ItsMe__> ugtarmas,  lol :D
[02:44] <evansch0> and i want to use my sata drive and my usb drive
[02:44] <evansch0> together\
[02:44] <usr13> evansch0: It would be easier to just create a mount point for a particular subdirectory.
[02:44] <ItsMe__> NewUbun,  any result
[02:44] <ItsMe__> ?
[02:44] <evansch0> and i do that how
[02:44] <kittenmittenz> i wish it ha a progress bar
[02:45] <usr13> evansch0: Well, you can, (use the sata and usb drive together), I'm just trying to determine the best way.
[02:45] <Dmnchild> Hey all, can someone help me understand setquota? I am trying to set a users diskspace to 100gb. see the usage help, but still not working for me.
[02:45] <NewUbun> noting i did not get the msg again but the program did not start either
[02:45] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, well........ if you want to see if it's running do $cntrl+alt+t to open a terminal, type $top at the command line and the process should be listed at the top, using most of the cpu
[02:46] <usr13> evansch0: You have to create a mount point for it and then, (if you're going use your /home/dir for it), move /home/evansch0 to it.
[02:46] <evansch0> mount point?
[02:46] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, not most of the cpu, but it will be the process using the most
[02:46] <gmachine_24> cpu cycles
[02:46] <NewUbun> is there a way to uninstall open proj and reinstall it
[02:46] <usr13> evansch0: yes mount point.
[02:46] <NewUbun> to see if tere is a problem there
[02:46] <evansch0> what is a mount point
[02:47] <ItsMe__> new ubun i guess u didn't change correctlye.  JAVA_OPTS="-Djava.vendor=Sun -Xms128m -Xmx768m"
[02:47] <ItsMe__> it must be like this
[02:47] <usr13> evansch0: a mount point is just a directory where files are stored.  /home/evansch0  if it is on another drive is called a "mount point".
[02:47] <evansch0> well i dont have ubuntu installed yet
[02:47] <ItsMe__> can u copy the line that u changed ?
[02:47] <NewUbun> ok let mme try again.. i will copy paste what you typed here
[02:47] <evansch0> that is why i need to use then together
[02:47] <evansch0> *them
[02:48] <usr13> evansch0: But this new location must have an entry for it in the /etc/fstab file. We can show you how.
[02:48] <evansch0> where can you show me
[02:49] <usr13> evansch0: Oh, you havent' done the install yet.  Well, just have the drive plugged in when you do the installed, and designate it as the mount point for /home
[02:49] <NewUbun> thanks it worked this time
[02:49] <NewUbun> thatnks alot
[02:49] <ItsMe__> you're welcome :) I must go, have a nice day :)
[02:49] <usr13> *install*  not installed
[02:49] <evansch0> then i guess i should change the boot device
[02:49] <NewUbun> Thank you Its_Me__
[02:50] <usr13> evansch0: Change the boot device?
[02:50] <NewUbun> you too
[02:50] <usr13> evansch0: No, we're not talking about the boot device here.
[02:50] <evansch0> yes the boot device right now boot device is usb then optical drive then so on
[02:50] <aLeSD> hi all
[02:51] <aLeSD> which is the best fs to format a 1TB external disk ?
[02:51] <usr13> evansch0: So you are NOW saying that you want to do the entire Ubuntu install on the USB device?
[02:51] <evansch0> i should change it from usb to optical drive xD
[02:51] <evansch0> no both devices if possible
[02:51] <usr13> evansch0: (That's ok, we just need to know what it is you really want to do.)
[02:51] <usr13> evansch0: You dan do it on both devices, yes.
[02:51] <evansch0> brb
[02:52] <evansch0> <------ AFK
[02:52] <usr13> evansch0: The larger partition should be /home
[02:52] <kdns_> aLeSD: For what purpose? Probably ext3 or ext4
[02:53] <loren> Need help with file roller
[02:53] <usr13> evansch0: Recommended sizes:  8G swap, 30G /  and the rest, (or what ever you want to use of the USB drive), for /home
[02:54] <aLeSD> kdns_ storage ... and sometime share wit no linux boxes
[02:54] <losticeberg> My network card is not working at all. in ubutu 12.04
[02:55] <usr13> losticeberg: What network card is it?
[02:55] <gmachine_24> loren, as in what specifically?
[02:55] <usr13> losticeberg: lspci |pastebinit
[02:55] <bencc> how much memory does a minimum install of ubuntu server needs?
[02:55] <losticeberg> it in a dell inspion 6000
[02:55] <usr13> losticeberg: and send us resulting URL
[02:55] <losticeberg> ive tryed two diffrent ones
[02:55] <evansch0> im thinking of getting a external hard drive  320 to 500 gigs
[02:55] <usr13> losticeberg: What does ifconfig say?
[02:55] <loren> Trying to connect File Roller 3.4.1 for Gnome to a Windows share.
[02:55] <evansch0> how would i use that device
[02:56] <gmachine_24> losticeberg, can you do a $sudo lspci as usr13 says?
[02:56] <usr13> !paste |losticeberg
[02:56] <Ray> hello, anyone know how to use *.run.gz file??
[02:57] <usr13> losticeberg: Does  ifconfig   show a section for eth0  or  eth1 ?
[02:57] <arp-> hello
[02:58] <usr13> Ray: .gz indicates a compressed file.  see man gunzip
[02:58] <losticeberg> no it dos not even show i have wireless with 12.10
[02:58] <Dmnchild> Anyone able to help me with the setquota command for limiting a specific users /home/?
[02:58] <kittenmittenz> taking forevvver
[02:58] <usr13> losticeberg: So, one card is wireless and one is ethernet?
[02:58] <arp-> How is the binary name of ATI Catalyst control panel?
[02:58] <loren> Yes
[02:58] <Ben64> Ray: what is it, by the way
[02:58] <losticeberg> on 12.04 its a firmware not setup
[02:59] <usr13> losticeberg: what is firmware?
[02:59] <losticeberg> on 12.04 thats what it ses about my wireless card
[02:59] <usr13> losticeberg: Open a terminal window, type   lspci   hit Enter and see what it says about the wireless card.  Show us that line here.
[03:00] <evansch0> so usr if i use a external hard drive would i be able to boot from that
[03:00] <losticeberg> yes one ethernet
[03:00] <Chriys> i'm going to reinstall postfix what config do i need to send email throught my isp smtp server
[03:00] <evansch0> usr13: if i use a external hard drive would i be able to boot from that
[03:00] <usr13> losticeberg: Is the ethernet card working?
[03:00] <usr13> evansch0: Yes, if your computer will boot to it.
[03:00] <losticeberg> not sure no way to hook up to test
[03:01] <evansch0> usr13: i think it will since it booted from a usb one before
[03:01] <usr13> evansch0: If your computer is capable of booting to USB, then yes, you can do the complete Ubuntu install on it.
[03:01] <usr13> evansch0: How big is it?
[03:01] <gmachine_24> losticeberg, for example, $sudo lspci has this as my bottom line "03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 02)"
[03:01] <loren> loren@loren-laptop:~$ sudo lspci
[03:01] <loren> [sudo] password for loren:
[03:01] <loren> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
[03:01] <loren> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 PCI Express Root Port (rev 03)
[03:01] <loren> 00:1a.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03)
[03:01] <FloodBot1> loren: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:01] <loren> 00:1a.1 USB controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03)
[03:01] <gmachine_24>
[03:01] <evansch0> usr13: how big is what?
[03:01] <usr13> !paste | loren
[03:02] <usr13> loren: lspci | pastebinit   #And post resulting URL here.
[03:02] <gmachine_24> loren, do you know how to use the terminal and the command line?
[03:03] <usr13> losticeberg:  Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[03:03] <arp-> I need the binary name of ATI Catalyst GUI , can help me?
[03:04] <evansch0> usr13: what were you reffering to when you said "how big is it?"
[03:04] <usr13> evansch0: Your USB drive.
[03:04] <evansch0> usr13: oh well its only 4 gb xD
[03:04] <dr_willis> arp-: it's   amdccc  or somthing like that
[03:05] <usr13> evansch0: That's pretty small.  A normal Ubuntu install will not fit on 4G
[03:05] <loren> I ran the command in terminal and then tried to paste the display in this message line, resulting in a FloodBot.
[03:05] <evansch0> usr13 well it was only the boot up usb
[03:05] <usr13> !minimal | evansch0
[03:05] <gmachine_24> loten, so use pastebin
[03:05] <gmachine_24> *loren
[03:05] <misterswag_> how to update to frodo with using the webupd8 ppa?
[03:06] <kittenmittenz> i have a question..
[03:06] <kittenmittenz> are we human?.. or are we dancer?
[03:06] <evansch0> i also am using a boot up dvd now 700 mb
[03:06] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, ..............out with it
[03:06] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, we are devo
[03:06] <kittenmittenz> lol
[03:06] <usr13> kittenmittenz: Well, if it's about Ubuntu, you've come to the right place.  If not....well.
[03:07] <usr13> kittenmittenz: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:07] <kittenmittenz> sorry... i have the killers - human stuck in my head
[03:07] <gmachine_24> kittenmittenz, I am running $dd on my hard drive and it is using >60% of the CPU
[03:07] <usr13> evansch0: You do not have a USB drive that is bigger than 4G?
[03:07] <kittenmittenz> naw, gmachine_24 is helping me im just waiting for a stupi check thingie
[03:07] <usr13> evansch0: How big is your sata drive?
[03:08] <evansch0> usr13: what is the ubuntu live user username and password because i cant get back on
[03:08] <kittenmittenz> it says 2.6%
[03:08] <evansch0> usr13: its only 2 gb
[03:08] <filantropus> Hi there
[03:08] <evansch0> xD
[03:08] <filantropus> I have another Pc
[03:08] <usr13> evansch0: That is small!
[03:08] <filantropus> in that one
[03:08] <gmachine_24> evansch0, there is no username or password
[03:08] <kittenmittenz> an compiz is using 22- %
[03:08] <filantropus> i have this msg: "machine check exception"
[03:08] <evansch0> then why does it keep asking for one?
[03:08] <kittenmittenz> 210%
[03:08] <usr13> kittenmittenz: so...?
[03:09] <filantropus> after it, the pc goes down.
[03:09] <usr13> kittenmittenz: Do you have a question?
[03:09] <filantropus> can someone help me?
[03:09] <kittenmittenz> well.. thats more % than i have..
[03:09] <gmachine_24> evansch0, I do not know
[03:09] <evansch0> :/
[03:09] <evansch0> thats weird xD
[03:09] <OerHeks> filantropus, "machine check exception" sounds like a hardwarefailure
[03:09] <usr13> filantropus: Ask a question, if someone knows the answer they will say so.
[03:10] <ahmedipa> I have problem with network manager
[03:10] <ahmedipa> gnome
[03:10] <filantropus> and how can i know what kind of hardware fail is?
[03:10] <usr13> ahmedipa: What problem?
[03:10] <ahmedipa> I removed it by mistake
[03:10] <usr13> filantropus: "fail"?
[03:10] <usr13> ahmedipa: You can re-install it.
[03:10] <filantropus> yes.
[03:10] <gmachine_24> mce result when cpu determines there is a hardware error
[03:10] <usr13> ahmedipa:  Are you connected to the internet right now?
[03:11] <evansch0> usr13, gmachine_24, thank you for your help :D
[03:11] <filantropus> my pc says:
[03:11] <ahmedipa> usr13: how
[03:11] <OerHeks> filantropus, depends on what bios maker, short-long beeps can tell
[03:11] <filantropus> "machine check exception"
[03:11] <usr13> ahmedipa: If so,  sudo apt-get install network-manager
[03:11] <ahmedipa> usr13: yes by usb
[03:11] <usr13> ahmedipa: sudo apt-get install network-manager
[03:11] <gmachine_24> evansch0, anytime
[03:11] <evansch0> See yah everyone :D
[03:12] <kittenmittenz> whats that site where i can put text
[03:12] <evansch0> thanks usr13 :/
[03:12] <usr13> !paste | kittenmittenz
[03:12] <ahmedipa> usr13: but in ubuntu no internet I have
[03:12] <gmachine_24> http://paste.ubuntu.com
[03:12] <usr13> ahmedipa: Why not?
[03:12] <ahmedipa> usr13: may be by package I can do it
[03:12] <loren> Need help sending terminal output.  I tried http:// pastebinit but did not see URL.
[03:12] <kittenmittenz> http://pastebin.com/e3WQ0Xz3
[03:13] <usr13> ahmedipa: Do you have a network cable plugged into your router?  Or are you using wireless?
[03:13] <kittenmittenz> is that ba gmachine?
[03:13] <gmachine_24> I've never seen anything use 211% of the cpu
[03:13] <kittenmittenz> lol
[03:13] <ahmedipa> usr13: I am using wireless by using my usb live
[03:13] <gmachine_24> that would seem impossible
[03:14] <gmachine_24> and the xorg cpu use is high
[03:14] <usr13> ahmedipa: iwconfig   #Tell us the name of the adapter.
[03:14] <OerHeks> 211%/400% 4-core
[03:14] <kittenmittenz> cpu isnt hot so.. i ont think its overclocking it
[03:14] <usr13> ahmedipa: Is it wlan0  ?   Or.... ____________?
[03:14] <gmachine_24> OerHeks, ahhhhhhhhh. thank you.
[03:14] <kittenmittenz> ohh.. i have an 8core
[03:14] <OerHeks>  1 zombie
[03:15] <ahmedipa> usr13: it is iwconfig
[03:15] <gmachine_24> Don't get personal.
[03:15] <ahmedipa> sorry
[03:15] <ahmedipa> wlan0
[03:15] <kittenmittenz> personal?
[03:15] <usr13> ahmedipa: Open a terminal, type   iwconfig  Hit Enter.  See what it says.    If not, do   iwlist wlan0 scan
[03:16] <usr13> ahmedipa: What is the essid? ____________?
[03:17] <st0b> Hey guys. I'm a long time 10.04 user migrating to 12.04. I've had a lot of trouble on a fresh install of 12.04 with my wireless connection slowing to a halt. I've even used different NIC's with the same result
[03:17] <st0b> I've never had any issue similar in 10.04
[03:17] <ahmedipa> usr13: do you mean my network yes I know
[03:18] <usr13> ahmedipa: Yes, network name
[03:18] <ahmedipa> usr13: I found the name of ESSID:
[03:19] <usr13> ahmedipa: network name =  ESSID
[03:19] <ahmedipa> usr13: yeb
[03:19] <usr13> ahmedipa: Does your wireless router use encryption?
[03:19] <ahmedipa> yes
[03:19] <loren> First time on XChat.  How do I send output from terminal to this channel?
[03:19] <ahmedipa> usr13: yes
[03:19] <usr13> ahmedipa: What type? WEP?
[03:20] <ahmedipa> usr13: I don't remember
[03:20] <st0b> loren, post in pastebin and then the link here
[03:20] <usr13> ahmedipa: Ok, can't help you.  YOu will need to get an ethernet cable long enough to reach the router and just plug it in.
[03:21] <ahmedipa> aha
[03:21] <usr13> ahmedipa: Or, login to the router and temporarily turn off encryption.
[03:21] <ahmedipa> usr13: sounds good
[03:22] <usr13> ahmedipa: If you have another computer that has an active connection to the router, you should be able to login to it and turn off encryption.
[03:22] <bencc> can I use selinux in ubuntu?
[03:22] <usr13> ahmedipa: Let us know when you have that done.
[03:23] <usr13> bencc: Yes
[03:23] <billytwowilly> can somebody point me to a repository with php 5.4.11 in it for quantal? the one I was using for precise doesn't have quantal packages and google has been no help...
[03:23] <usr13> bencc: sudo apt-get install selinux
[03:23] <OerHeks> !selinux
[03:23] <ahmedipa> I will back because I have another prplm
[03:24] <usr13> OerHeks: Thanks.
[03:24] <OerHeks> disable appamor first, i think
[03:24] <bencc> OerHeks: so it's not a good idea to use it?
[03:24] <mehwork> how can i iterate through gnome-terminal tabs with my keyboard?
[03:25] <bencc> OerHeks: I mean, if it's a security feature and it's not officially supported
[03:25] <usr13> bencc: As OerHeks points out, you are better off to use AppArmor, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor
[03:25] <st0b> I've been seeking help for my wifi dying after extended use. Restarting the network service seems to remedy the situation temporarily. I experience this on a fresh 12.04 install with multiple wireless NICs
[03:25] <ahmedipa> usr13:I will restart within 10 minute I think I will finish before
[03:26] <usr13> ahmedipa: Do you now have encryption turned off?
[03:26] <OerHeks> bencc,  i have no experience with selinux/ubuntu, i think it is a design choice
[03:27] <malkauns> in 12.10 how do i get empathy to remember my yahoo contacts?
[03:27] <kittenmittenz> i have a 250gb Vertex 4 SSD, is there compatibility issues with it on ubuntu?
[03:27] <mehwork> it seems weird to make security features something that can be disabled
[03:27] <usr13> malkauns: Aren't they on your yahoo web based interface?
[03:28] <usr13> malkauns: Or are you using a PC based email client?  If so, which one?
[03:28] <malkauns> usr13, yea but when i rename a contact in empathy it should remember it
[03:28] <mehwork> it's like giving someone a hard hat but not making them wear it
[03:29] <usr13> malkauns: You have a set of contacts in empathy?
[03:29] <malkauns> usr13, i'm using empathy which is a standalone Multi-IM client for linux
[03:29] <malkauns> usr13, yes
[03:29] <malkauns> usr13, but when i restart empathy it doesn't remember what i renamed my yahoo contacts to
[03:29] <usr13> malkauns: I do not know if mpathy will automatically upload new contact information to Yahoo, but I do not think it does.
[03:31] <usr13> malkauns: I figure it's better to just use the web-based email server.
[03:31] <usr13> malkauns: ... that way, you are not restricted to only using your home PC for email.
[03:32] <malkauns> usr13, erm, not the ideal solution when i use facebook-chat, google-talk and aim
[03:32] <Evansch0> hi
[03:33] <usr13> malkauns: I always thought that was what tabs were for.  (in the browser).
[03:33] <malkauns> usr13, i am aware the pro's and cons or using a web based interface but the problem is Empathy should remember the aliases i set
[03:33] <usr13> malkauns: Maybe it does, I dono
[03:34] <s5fs> Hey, if I've got a service that it started by dbus, and I kill it with 'kill', how do I re-start it? Is there  like a dbus-service-start or whatever?
[03:34] <loren> Finally figured out how to use pastbin.  My URL is http://paste.ubuntu.com/1587756/
[03:35] <usr13> malkauns: http://library.gnome.org/users/empathy/stable/
[03:36] <usr13> s5fs: What service is it?
[03:37] <Evansch0> :3
[03:37] <Evansch0> sup everyone
[03:37] <usr13> s5fs: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus
[03:38] <Guest84410> hey Evansch0
[03:39] <Evansch0> hi
[03:39] <Evansch0> ???
[03:39] <usr13> loren: So it is the wireless that is not working?
[03:40] <Evansch0> sooo......
[03:40] <iManassah> lol, just sayin hi
[03:40] <Evansch0> :P
[03:40] <iManassah> not much going on here
[03:40] <usr13> loren: lsmod |grep iwl   #Tell us what that says.
[03:40] <iManassah> been here for like an hour dicking around
[03:40] <DERP> lol
[03:40] <ahmedipa> hi
[03:41] <ahmedipa> I solve first problem
[03:41] <ahmedipa> but I have second problem
[03:41] <Evansch0> mwahaha
[03:41] <ahmedipa> Wireless disconnects with ubuntu  12.04LTS
[03:41] <ahmedipa> this problem starts today
[03:41] <iManassah> anyone play with yamas?
[03:41] <usr13> loren: If   lsmod |grep iwl  returns nothing, do this:   sudo modprobe iwl3945
[03:41] <ahmedipa> usr13: back
[03:41] <iManassah> mitm for ubuntu
[03:41] <Evansch0> so i have 12.04 lts and im trying to figure out the password and username if the account times out
[03:42] <ahmedipa> thank you for helping me about the first problem
[03:42] <usr13> ahmedipa: Do you now have encryption turned off?
[03:42] <ahmedipa> usr13: my main problem wireless
[03:42] <iManassah> Evans...when your machine first boots up, choose to boot with recovery mode, or something like that
[03:42] <loren> Places in the archive manager does not show the windows share file, so I cannot direct the output to my home server.  Nautilus has no trouble locating the file and allowing me to read and write.
[03:42] <Evansch0> how
[03:42] <ahmedipa> how can I check this
[03:42] <iManassah> Evans:  that will take you to a root prompt, then just passwd (user) to change password
[03:43] <Evansch0> i dont have ubuntu installed
[03:43] <usr13> ahmedipa: Did you log into the router and turn encryption off?
[03:43] <Evansch0> xD
[03:43] <ahmedipa> usr13: I used wired
[03:43] <iManassah> what do you have Evans
[03:43] <Evansch0> a boot up disk
[03:43] <usr13> ahmedipa:  sudo apt-get install network-manager
[03:43] <ahmedipa> usr13: wired instead of wireless
[03:43] <Evansch0> for ubuntu 12.04 lts
[03:44] <iManassah> a boot up disk?
[03:44] <Evansch0> dvd
[03:44] <usr13> ahmedipa: Open a terminal, type:   sudo apt-get install network-manager   Hit Enter.
[03:44] <ahmedipa> usr13: I did it
[03:44] <iManassah> Evans:   can't timeout unless its installed i believe...
[03:44] <usr13> ahmedipa: Good.
[03:44] <Evansch0> lol well it did xD
[03:44] <DigitalPhil> good evening... can anyone help with fancontrol on a gateway laptop? My fan runs at idle...pwmconfig detects no sensors...and the sensors command gives me an accurate (HOT!!!) temperature readout
[03:45] <usr13> ahmedipa: When you reboot, you should see the network-manager applet again.
[03:45] <iManassah> ggggggggggggg
[03:45] <iManassah> sorry cat just walked across my keyboard
[03:45] <Evansch0> lol
[03:45] <loren> neither command returned anything
[03:45] <ahmedipa> usr13: I saw that it tries to find network but after that it says disconnect
[03:45] <iManassah> hmmm whats it say when you login?
[03:45] <DigitalPhil> iManassah: meow.
[03:45] <Evansch0> no login xD
[03:46] <Evansch0> DigitalPhil: nice xD
[03:46] <usr13> !fan | DigitalPhil
[03:46] <antonio_> I'm trying to access a folder called Market Samurai in terminal...what syntax should I use?
[03:46] <ahmedipa> usr13: I can use internet by my mobile whereas I can't in my laptop
[03:46] <iManassah> lol...thanks ya'll
[03:47] <iManassah> just says "no login"
[03:47] <usr13> ahmedipa: Why not?
[03:47] <iManassah> ?
[03:47] <dr_willis> antonio_:  cd 'folder name'
[03:47] <usr13> ahmedipa: What is your native language?
[03:47] <vileman> Chinese
[03:47] <ahmedipa> usr13: I surprise
[03:47] <ahmedipa> usr13: arabic
[03:47] <antonio_> dr_willis: tried that
[03:47] <iManassah> Evansch0:  can you log in as root?
[03:47] <dr_willis> antonio_:  or cd   folder<tabkey> to auto complete the name
[03:48] <antonio_> ha
[03:48] <antonio_> ah
[03:48] <spetsnoz> is ext4 a full 64-bit file system? this part of the ext4 wiki seems to be saying otherwise https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto#Bigger_File_System_and_File_Sizes
[03:48] <Evansch0> no
[03:48] <antonio_> bash: cd: Market: No such file or directory
[03:48] <usr13> ahmedipa: FYI:   #ubuntu-arabic
[03:48] <iManassah> Evansch0:  does it even give you a login screen?
[03:48] <antonio_> dr_willis: don't I need to put a / in between the two words?
[03:48] <dr_willis> antonio_:  you have several folders called market whatever ?
[03:49] <antonio_> nope
[03:49] <antonio_> should it be cd Market\ Samurai ?
[03:49] <dr_willis> antonio_:  tab completion shoudl add it automatically...
[03:49] <antonio_> didn't
[03:49] <dr_willis> antonio_:  try it and see...
[03:49] <antonio_> haha
[03:49] <antonio_> I'm an idiot
[03:49] <dr_willis> cd "dir with spaces" whould work also
[03:49] <dr_willis> stop using spaces in file and dir names = best answer
[03:50] <antonio_> forgot I was already in the folder...
[03:50] <ahmedipa> usr13: may I show you screen shot ?
[03:50] <usr13> ahmedipa: Sure, pastebinit
[03:51] <usr13> !paste | ahmedipa
[03:51] <ahmedipa> I see what you mean
[03:52] <usr13> antonio_: pwd is your friend
[03:53] <DigitalPhil> usr13:  that url from the bot returned a blank page.
[03:53] <ahmedipa> usr13: http://imagebin.org/244765
[03:53] <usr13> dr_willis: Good advice.  It is a bad idea to make file names or directory names that have spaces.  Very confusing.
[03:53] <ahmedipa> usr13: this is the screen shot
[03:53] <usr13> DigitalPhil: What URL?
[03:54] <DigitalPhil> [22:46:22] <usr13> !fan | DigitalPhil
[03:54] <usr13> ahmedipa: There you go.  It's working.
[03:54] <ahmedipa> usr13: this application try to find network but it tell me disconnected
[03:54] <ahmedipa> I used wired not wireless
[03:54] <usr13> ahmedipa: Click up there where the up and down arrows are.
[03:55] <DigitalPhil> usr13: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-12058.html is the url the bot spit out, that url returns blank in three browsers.
[03:56] <ahmedipa> usr13:although I select my network and I type password, it search for network but it tell me disconnected
[03:56] <ahmedipa> usr13: may be because I updated a lot
[03:58] <antonio_> usr13: huh what is pwd
[03:58] <antonio_> ?
[03:58] <zygoptera> antonio_ | pwd is a command that tells you what directory you are in
[03:58] <antonio_> ah
[03:59] <usr13> ahmedipa: Are you sure the passphrase is correct?
[03:59] <ahmedipa>  yes, if incorrect it will tell me
[04:00] <usr13> ahmedipa: If you can login to the router from another PC, you can either see what the password is, or change it.
[04:00] <antonio_> argh
[04:00] <loren> loren@loren-laptop:~$ sudo lsmod | grep iwl
[04:00] <loren> iwl3945                73145  0
[04:00] <loren> iwl_legacy             71187  1 iwl3945
[04:00] <loren> mac80211              436493  2 iwl3945,iwl_legacy
[04:00] <loren> cfg80211              178877  3 iwl3945,iwl_legacy,mac80211
[04:00] <FloodBot1> loren: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:00] <usr13> !paste | loren
[04:01] <usr13> loren: iwconfig | pastebinit
[04:01] <ahmedipa> I am checking
[04:01] <usr13> loren: Open a terminal and type   iwconfig | pastebinit  Hit Enter and send resulting URL [here]
[04:03] <antonio_> I'm getting so damn frustrated
[04:03] <antonio_> I'm trying to install Market Samurai - its an adobe air application...
[04:03] <loren> pastebinit command not found
[04:03] <antonio_> I tried updating it from root a few minutes ago and the entire program was deleted!
[04:04] <ahmedipa> I changed one mistake
[04:04] <ahmedipa> I will reboot and I will see what will happened I think same problem
[04:04] <ahmedipa> happen
[04:05] <usr13> loren: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[04:05] <d1rkp1tt> Hi all, I am running an ubuntu server minus desktop on low memory. Just wondering if anyone has a good resource on what can be safely trimmed from the system to get a very small footprint
[04:05] <TheLordOfTime> d1rkp1tt, how low are we talking for memory?
[04:05] <usr13> loren: http://imagebin.org/244767
[04:05] <antonio_> when I try to install marketsamurai.air an xterm window opens up...and its not accepting my root password...dr_willis: any ideas?
[04:06] <loren> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1587871/
[04:06] <zygoptera> ubuntu doesn't by default have a root password
[04:06] <slipp3d> so here is a wondering ... I have xubuntu installed and working fine .. .but any time I load up a site that has flash on it the computer locks up and the computer is completely unresponsive ... I have to hold the power button down to get it to let go ... any thoughts on that .....
[04:06] <usr13> antonio_: Use user password
[04:06] <antonio_> "this application requires administrative rights to run"
[04:07] <antonio_> usr13: its not working
[04:07] <slipp3d> I have tried different browsers ... but it does not matter ...
[04:07] <usr13> antonio_: what application is it?
[04:07] <zygoptera> slipp3d | flash itself is pretty buggy
[04:07] <antonio_> market samurai...
[04:07] <antonio_> its an adobe air application
[04:08] <blunted> Fdisk and parted cannot seem to find sda. However it is there and has 1&2 mounted, no raid no lvm
[04:08] <slipp3d> zygoptera, I realize that ... but that does not explain why it was working and now it does not
[04:08] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: Ubuntu Server is already pretty thin. It doesn't come with a whole lot of extra stuff by default. But if you want, you can add anything from the repos...
[04:09] <antonio_> usr13: see this picture  the black window at the top is asking for my password
[04:09] <poz> hi
[04:09] <antonio_> http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/con_movies/Screenshotfrom2013-01-29180713_zpse83f7774.png
[04:09] <antonio_> the problem is that its not accepting my password
[04:09] <d1rkp1tt> rob_b ... thanks. It was pretty good out of the box, until i did an apt-get upgrade
[04:09] <zygoptera> slipp3d | did you update your flash?
[04:10] <d1rkp1tt> rob_p the upgrade increased the footprint a bit
[04:10] <blunted> Where do disk and parted look for disk info?
[04:10] <slipp3d> zygoptera, installed from the software center
[04:10] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: Shouldn't have though... upgrades simply replace older versions...
[04:10] <slipp3d> so i would guess that is the most current
[04:10] <antonio_> got it..I had to run sudo /usr/bin/Adobe\ AIR\ Application\ Installer
[04:10] <dr_willis> antonio_: run it as root.. better idea  dont use air at all...
[04:11] <zygoptera> slipp3d | was it  previous version that was working right?
[04:11] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: That's not to say that the newer versions aren't sometimes a little bigger... but not usually significantly.
[04:11] <antonio_> dr_willis: I have to run air for this program..no way around it
[04:11] <dr_willis> id find a differnt program then
[04:11] <slipp3d> 12.04 was working ... 12.10 is broken
[04:11] <antonio_> dr_willis: its the industry standard
[04:11] <dr_willis> air is basically dead on linuxx
[04:11] <d1rkp1tt> rob_p thanks
[04:11] <linux34892> I have no sound in Ubuntu 12.10 and alsamixer says cannot open mixer: no such file or directory, i tried installing alsa and pulseaudio from the repos... still no sound, soundcard is NVIDIA Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[04:11] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: The difference in *most* cases should be negligable...
[04:11] <zygoptera> slipp3d | that's true
[04:11] <antonio_> Thats what drives me nuts about linux... "find a different program"
[04:12] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: Is your system dipping into swap?
[04:12] <dr_willis> antonio_:  adobe ahs killed air on linux.  it may fail to work at any time. no security updates and so forth
[04:12] <usr13> antonio_: I don't know about samurai  How did you install it?
[04:12] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: If not, then there's no need to worry...
[04:12] <usr13> antonio_: Is this it? > http://www.madirish.net/188 <
[04:12] <dr_willis> adobe is great at screwing things up..
[04:13] <antonio_> nope usr13: www.marketsamurai.com
[04:13] <slipp3d> so i guess i'm stuck not using flash at all ... or down grade to 10.04
[04:13] <zygoptera> slipp3d | I thought you said 12.04 worked?
[04:13] <dr_willis> slipp3d:  i ten to use flash downloader extensions, or flash-replacer extsnioons taht play videos in vlc
[04:14] <dr_willis> slipp3d:  but flash is working for me on 12.10  64bit with my nvidia cards
[04:14] <usr13> antonio_: What file did you download? (Can you give us the filename?
[04:14] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: ...but if you're hitting swap, then you might want to look into ways to avoid it.
[04:14] <slipp3d> 12.04 is what I meant to type ...
[04:15] <usr13> antonio_: Does it offer install packages for different distros?
[04:15] <zygoptera> slipp3d | 12.04 isn't so bad, it will be supported much longer
[04:15] <d1rkp1tt> its not yet... but its brand new and I havent loaded it up
[04:15] <d1rkp1tt> Just thinking, it hasnt got much for what I want to do
[04:16] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: Just keep an eye on it.  Also, make sure you understand memory management in Linux before you assume that your system is RAM hungry. Remember, unused RAM is wasted ram! :)
[04:16] <antonio_> usr13: nope
[04:16] <slipp3d> dr_willis, i'm running that on an intel based laptop
[04:16] <antonio_> I've got it working for now
[04:16] <usr13> antonio_: See my PM
[04:16] <d1rkp1tt> rob_p 77mb spare, isnt a lot
[04:17] <usr13> antonio_: ok good.
[04:17] <slipp3d> zygoptera, is 12.04 getting the newest version of xfce? or is it stuck on the older versions?
[04:17] <dr_willis> !latest
[04:17] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: Again, make sure you understand how much *spare* RAM your system actually has!
[04:17] <zygoptera> slipp3d | I believe you can still get the newest xfce
[04:18] <vileman> who know why i couldn't find firefox in awesome except use shell
[04:18] <slipp3d> i'll have to look into that zygoptera that might be an option
[04:18] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: buffers, cache, etc...
[04:18] <cfhowlett> slipp3d, installing xfce is easy ...
[04:18] <zygoptera> slipp3d | but you can't downgrade back to 12.04, you have to reinstall
[04:18] <d1rkp1tt> Yeah I am reading from top and free-m
[04:19] <slipp3d> right ... i'm not worried about it ... just didn't want to backup and reinstall agin ...
[04:19] <slipp3d> +a
[04:19] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: Linux memory management is misleading to the uninformed... (not saying that you are, just saying...)
[04:19] <d1rkp1tt> rob_p its ok... Im no expert
[04:19] <slipp3d> brb ...
[04:21] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: Just keep an eye on swap and if you start digging into it and the value stadily increases, then you are indeed exhausting your physical RAM and then you'd want to address it.
[04:21] <d1rkp1tt> rob_p Thanks.
[04:21] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: Until then, just enjoy your Ubuntu Server! :)
[04:21] <linux34892> I have no sound in Ubuntu 12.10 and alsamixer says cannot open mixer: no such file or directory, i tried installing alsa and pulseaudio from the repos... still no sound, soundcard is NVIDIA Corporation MCP51 High Definition Audio (rev a2)
[04:21] <rob_p> d1rkp1tt: welcome
[04:22] <zygoptera> linux34892 | does alsaconf detect any sound devices?
[04:22] <usr13> d1rkp1tt: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html
[04:23] <linux34892> zygoptera: apt-cache search alsaconf
[04:23] <linux34892> zygoptera: no program found matching that; sudo lspci -v shows a soundcard
[04:23] <usr13> linux34892: What version of Ubuntu did you install?  lsb_release -a
[04:23] <zygoptera> linux34892 | hhm. alsaconf usually comes with alsa
[04:24] <d1rkp1tt> usr13, thanks for that
[04:24] <linux34892> zygoptera: just got it working with sudo modprobe snd_hda_intel
[04:24] <zygoptera> ok
[04:24] <usr13> d1rkp1tt: NP
[04:25] <usr13> linux34892: Good.
[04:25] <linux34892> usr13: Description:	Ubuntu 12.10
[04:25] <usr13> linux34892: Did you do minimal install?
[04:25] <xrs> how to install tty font when fontforge is installed?
[04:25] <usr13> linux34892: (I'm wondering why alsa and pulseaudio was not installed.
[04:25] <Ben64> usr13: i was thinking the same thing
[04:26] <usr13> xrs: What?
[04:27] <xrs> google says just double lick the font and click install, but it opens in fontforge and i dont see an "install" button
[04:27] <zygoptera> xrs | are you sure it isn't already installed?
[04:27] <usr13> xrs: man fontforge
[04:28] <xrs> its a custom font that didnt come with ubuntu
[04:28] <Ben64> xrs: you have to open it with "font viewer"
[04:28] <usr13> xrs: http://font.ubuntu.com/
[04:29] <xrs> ...
[04:30] <wolftune> anybody know how to access DVDs over a network where a mac is the device with the DVD (and set to sharing)?
[04:30] <nyRednek> question, when building a custom livecd image, what needs to be removed to remove the "install" option?
[04:30] <wolftune> I can't seem to get it to show on my Ubuntu system
[04:30] <xrs> Wolfpack,  do you have samba installed?
[04:30] <wolftune> yes I installed samba
[04:31] <usr13> xrs: See:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts  (ttf-mscorefonts-installer)
[04:31] <wolftune> under smb: workgroup I see the mac, but then it times out when I open it
[04:32] <usr13> wolftune: An Apple computer?
[04:32] <wolftune> the Linux computer is not Apple, the Apple is what I'm trying to access
[04:32] <wolftune> I did not install samba specifically on the Apple
[04:32] <Ben64> can you access it with anything else
[04:33] <Ben64> seems like its an apple problem
[04:33] <wolftune> I can use remote desktop and control the Apple that way
[04:33] <genoobie> hey all
[04:33] <wolftune> hi
[04:33] <cfhowlett> genoobie, greetings
[04:33] <genoobie> I just finished installing lubuntu
[04:34] <genoobie> but the video is a bit screwed up
[04:34] <genoobie> at the login if i hit ctrl+alt+f1
[04:34] <genoobie> I get a text / cli
[04:34] <genoobie> and I can loging
[04:34] <genoobie> login
[04:34] <genoobie> not sure how to fix my video tho
[04:35] <Ben64> genoobie: don't use enter as punctuation. how is the video screwed up? can you post a picture? what video card does the computer have?
[04:36] <genoobie> well it's got some form of S3 / Savage
[04:36] <genoobie> It's hard to describe the video screw-up
[04:36] <genoobie> it certainly cannot display correctly
[04:36] <genoobie> the machine says it has 133 pkgs to be updates
[04:37] <Ben64> give us a picture. and you don't need to use so many lines, use commas or periods or something
[04:37] <cfhowlett> genoobie, for a fresh install on first update, that's about right
[04:37] <thoonai> does ping send thing on other pipes as stdout? and how I detect them?
[04:37] <genoobie> okay, I will try not to use enter as a form of punctuation. Sorry.  I can't quite get a picture online.
[04:37] <loren> usr13 did you get my paste?
[04:37] <Ben64> genoobie: you don't have a cell phone with a camera, or a camera?
[04:38] <genoobie> okay, let me see if I can make that happen...
[04:38] <Tecan> http://pastebin.com/DBaeBSVs
[04:38] <Tecan> howcome i get this
[04:38] <thoonai> does ping send thing on other pipes as stdout? and how I detect them?
[04:39] <RocketLauncher> How can I get Gnome's keyboard shortcuts to work with another window manager? I don't want to fiddle with xbindkeys....
[04:39] <kunji> thoonai: Umm, you mean when someone pings your ip?
[04:39] <TheLordOfTime> Tecan, the 404s are because those PPAs likely don't support the relese you're on (thereby there's nothing to find there, hence 404)
[04:39] <Tecan> ya but how do i delete them
[04:39] <TheLordOfTime> Tecan, as for the getdeb one, i think they're down, but if they aren't its a sign you can't get there
[04:40] <usr13> loren: I don't know.   Send the URL again.
[04:40] <TheLordOfTime> Tecan, remove the entries in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ that correspond to the PPAs
[04:40] <TheLordOfTime> s/entries/files/
[04:40] <Tecan> TY
[04:40] <loren> I'll pick up the problem tomorrow. Need to quit.
[04:41] <usr13> loren: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1587756/ ?
[04:41] <thoonai> kunji: I want to call some programms with a python subprocess, so I called ping and read stdout, but just the general stuff and the summeray appeared on stdout, the rest (steps in between) doesnt
[04:41] <kunji> RocketLauncher: I'm not sure if you can, I don't know how that interacts too well though, maybe your other window manager supports assigning them it's own way?
[04:41] <red82> I am trying to optimize the performance of a magento installation on an ubuntu server.  can anyone suggest a good link for me to read?
[04:42] <cfhowlett> red82, this would be a good question for #ubuntu-server
[04:42] <RocketLauncher> kunji: i'm using dwm, my window manager doesn't handle any of that
[04:42] <red82> ty
[04:42] <RocketLauncher> I just wonder if there's daemon or something i can start
[04:42] <kunji> thoonai: That's interesting... because when I ping I see everything getting printed on stdout, you can check on the command line, e.g. ping google.com
[04:43] <kunji> thoonai: Are you using some non-standard implementation of ping?
[04:43] <gayle> exit
[04:44] <genoobie> Ben64 are you still here? This is what the login screen looks like the login screen looks like this....http://postimage.org/image/76g39fvnl/7648fc50/
[04:44] <thoonai> kunji: the original one from ubuntu, nothing changed
[04:44] <thoonai> if I call it in the terminal I get all output too
[04:45] <kunji> RocketLauncher: Well, I guess you wanted minimalism then, I guess you got it :P  Hmm, reading the wiki page for dwm it sounds like there should be a way from how the dmenu section reads: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwm
[04:46] <kunji> thoonai: here's an example of my ping, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1588100/  You're sure yours doesn't do that?
[04:49] <Tristan128> what kernel version is 12.04 using?
[04:50] <kunji> thoonai: Oh, sorry missed that post, so on terminal you get it all, exactly how are you calling it then?  Shell script called from python?  Directly from python?  It would be good if you pastebin the relevant bit of code.
[04:52] <kunji> Tristan128: There is a chart here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases
[04:53] <xrs> okay check this. i can manually install the font into my home dir, but this does not address the root cause of why i am here. i am here because the directions on how to install a font using the GUI do not apply because i have fontforge installed. double clicking on the font opens the font in fontforge and not whatever the ubuntu default is, so can you tell me the name of the package that ubuntu is supposed to be using by default?
[04:53] <makara> hi. I'm (12.04) trying to install the latest Evolution (3.2.3 > 3.4.3). I added ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 and did update, upgrade and install evolution. But it's still 3.2.3?
[04:53] <makara> its so buggy, its a schlepp to use
[04:54] <xrs> you ran sudo apt-get update first?
[04:54] <Tecan> me ?
[04:54] <xrs> @ makara,
[04:54] <djdos> Failed to open a session for the virtual machine ubuntu.  VT-x features locked or unavailable in MSR. (VERR_VMX_MSR_LOCKED_OR_DISABLED).  Result Code: E_FAIL (0x80004005) Component: Console Interface: IConsole {db7ab4ca-2a3f-4183-9243-c1208da92392}
[04:54] <kunji> makara: Why are you trying to use  a newer one....
[04:54] <djdos> whats this for
[04:55] <djdos> ?
[04:55] <ESphynx> Somehow after ditching Unity for XFCE I get nice screensavers =) i think that's the nicest part :P
[04:55] <djdos> whats this error message ?
[04:55] <xrs> djdos,  are you trying to run a virtual machine?
[04:55] <kunji> ESphynx: You can get them in Unity as well, they're just not installed by default.
[04:55] <makara> xrs, yes, I did update
[04:55] <djdos> yes
[04:55] <Rakko> Hi all. Some of you may recall I was complaining about high-latency scrolling in my Ubuntu VM, when using my Mac's trackpad. Well, I just plugged in my mouse, and it has the same problem.
[04:56] <bluebeat09> hello!. i been trying to fix mi wifi connection for weeks now and nothingg--( wifi disconnects frequently) i have: AR9285 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)
[04:56] <makara> kunji, less bugs
[04:56] <bluebeat09> pleasee help!
[04:56] <ESphynx> kunji I just like nice defaults :P
[04:56] <xrs> makara,  open you software sources and try enableing backports and proposed updates
[04:56] <djdos> whats the prob
[04:56] <Rakko> I've been able to pinpoint its behavior a little more: one "click" of the scroll wheel scrolls a very small distance, maybe one line. A more vigorous motion of the wheel scrolls by the "normal" (to my standards) amounts.
[04:56] <Rakko> How do I get the initial scroll increment to not be tiny?
[04:56] <kunji> djdos: Did you read this one yet?  https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=128668
[04:57] <makara> bluebeat09, what version ubuntu?
[04:57] <bluebeat09> makara: 12.10
[04:57] <kunji> ESphynx: Yeah, me too, just seemed like replacing the whole environment was a bigger jump than installing a few packages.  ^_^
[04:58] <kunji> makara: Umm, do you know for sure the new one is less buggy?  I just  don't use it at all myself.
[04:58] <makara> bluebeat09, the latest usually sorts that out. Guess not in your case. Linux been struggling with wifi cards for years
[04:59] <makara> kunji, http://askubuntu.com/questions/167475/evolution-3-4-3-on-12-04
[04:59] <kittenmittenz> wheres the offtopic channel
[04:59] <bluebeat09> makara, new linux user over here... but i figure there is something i can do to make it more stable
[05:00] <thoonai> kunji: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1588124/
[05:00] <djdos> ii disabled it
[05:00] <thoonai> kittenmittenz: huh?
[05:01] <djdos> then it told me you hve to enable it
[05:01] <kittenmittenz> huh?
[05:01] <djdos> thats the solution
[05:02] <kunji> makara: Oh, you have it working, nice ^_^
[05:04] <poz> man, is it ever a hassle to get tor to work on x chat
[05:04] <makara> bluebeat09, do you have 'pre-released updates' on? make sure you get the latest updates
[05:04] <thoonai> kunji: there?
[05:05] <kunji> thoonai: Yeah, umm is the readline mayhaps getting just the last line?
[05:08] <digitalphiltv> !fan
[05:08] <thoonai> kunji: dont know but now it works
[05:08] <kittenmittens> why is it every time i set up my pc, then update it crases and nothing works?
[05:08] <thoonai> kunji: *shrugs* thanks
[05:08] <thoonai> :)
[05:08] <kittenmittens> should i be updating first?
[05:09] <digitalphiltv> ke5pcv-away, de n9td have a good evening
[05:09] <kunji> thoonai: Hmm, I'm starting to wonder if ping is buggy, at least my results seem to be inconsistent with it at the moment.
[05:10] <UndisclosedServe> (don't mean to spam just checking to see if the irc client im using connected properly)
[05:10] <thoonai> kunji: that would be extremely hilarious since ping is from the 1930s
[05:11] <thoonai> kunji: ok its not, but I think ping was the first programm after the invention of tcp/ip
[05:11] <kunji> thoonai: For instance I don't get the summary when I pipe ping http://paste.ubuntu.com/1588137/  Also I'm having another weird issue:  I've noticed something perplexing T.T, any thoughts on this issue would be appreciated.  I can ping from my desktop to my router 0% packet loss, and from my router to google 0% packet loss, but from my desktop to google I get 10-15% packet loss.  This is over > 30 pings each test and I can reproduce it on re
[05:11] <kunji> thoonai: I hope ping is ok though ^_^
[05:11] <digitalphiltv> alrighty... I am still having fan issues...and the url from the bot's !fan command which someone tried to get me to run earlier, leads me to a blank page. I'm running k10temp sensors trying to get lm-sensors' fancontrol script to run my fan because at the moment the fan is IDLING and my laptop is running VERY HOT... any ideas out there? thanks!
[05:12] <thoonai> kunji: may I ask you where do you live ^^?
[05:12] <xrs> okay found the solution. my system was missing the package "gnome-font-viewer"
[05:12] <kunji> thoonai: How specifically :P  Michigan.
[05:13] <thoonai> in soviet russia packet losses you
[05:13] <digitalphiltv> /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed
[05:13]  * digitalphiltv is about ready to shoot pwmconfig
[05:13] <thoonai> kunji: you shouldn't have packet loss there ^^
[05:14] <kunji> xrs: Oh... that is for installing fonts?  I thought it was just for viewing them... I've always just installed them on the cmd so I didn't know the answer to GUI questions about it or I would have helped :P
[05:14] <kunji> thoonai: I know right, especially because it's ping A -> B ok, ping B -> C ok, ping A -> C ERROR
[05:15] <thoonai>  dont know, ethernet is voodoo, nothing to worry about
[05:15] <thoonai> its like hf
[05:17] <Rakko> I find mouse scrolling in modern Ubuntu annoying: one "click" of the scroll wheel scrolls a very small distance, maybe one line. A more vigorous motion of the wheel scrolls by the "normal" (to my standards) amounts. How can I make scrolling always jump a decent (and preferably consistent) amount?
[05:18] <Rakko> I don't remember it being like this in 10.10
[05:18] <thoonai> kunji: thx and I'll quit here and get some stuff working :)
[05:18] <thoonai> cu around
[05:20] <kunji> Rakko: I remember seeing a setting for how many lines it should scroll somewhere.. I can't seem to find it right now though.
[05:24] <Rakko> kunji: hmm.
[05:24] <OpheliaPandide> I need help with wifi upon installing 12.10 onto my mac 10.7
[05:24] <Rakko> actually maybe it's just firefox that is lame in this regard
[05:25] <OpheliaPandide> I have tried a lot of different things and found none to work
[05:25] <OpheliaPandide> I have to use a usb
[05:25] <kunji> Rakko: Oh, I'm pretty sure I can find the firefox setting for that, I'm pretty sure they use their own
[05:25] <Rakko> of course. firefox ftw
[05:25] <kittenmittens> can someone tell e why my laptop and pc both die after i update them
[05:26] <OpheliaPandide> does anyone have any ideas as to the wifi problem??
[05:26] <kunji> Rakko: Well, they have a lot of setting you can play with, type about:config in the address bar, press enter, tell them you'll be careful and search for mousewheel
[05:26] <kunji> *settings
[05:26] <kittenmittens> opheliapandide, have you looked in aditional drivers to see if theres a wifi driver to activate
[05:26] <Rakko> kunji: ok. I turned off "smooth scrolling" and that helped!
[05:27] <kunji> Rakko: nice ^_^
[05:27] <Rakko> but the Mac trackpad support is still laggy-feeling. oh well
[05:27] <Rakko> I'm hopefully gonna ditch this laptop soon
[05:27] <OpheliaPandide> I looked in software sources --> additional drivers
[05:27] <kittenmittens> anyone???
[05:27] <IveBeenBit> I am trying to learn the concepts behind mounting and unmounting. I go to the launcher and type "disks" which is an app that lets you see the drives attached to the system. It says my flashdrive mount point is /mnt/usb-SanDisk_Cruiser... is the mount point. Why is /mnt empty though when I ls -l /mnt?
[05:27] <OpheliaPandide> but no driver
[05:28] <kittenmittens> agh
[05:28] <kittenmittens> i need a ubuntu genious
[05:28] <kittenmittens> or a ubuntu doctor
[05:28] <Rakko> i.e. I have to move my two fingers almost halfway across the trackpad before scrolling even starts. makes everything feel very slow
[05:28] <Rakko> kittenmittens: "die"?
[05:29] <kittenmittens> well on my laptop i get filesyst em is readonly, and on pc it freezes at the startup
[05:29] <kittenmittens> sooo...
[05:29] <kittenmittens> both happen after upadting, so i dont
[05:29] <OpheliaPandide> I tried sudo apt-get install broadcom-sta-common b43-fwcutter
[05:29] <OpheliaPandide> ... from
[05:29] <OpheliaPandide> http://blog.projectz.me/2012/10/21/setting-up-ubuntu-12-10-on-a-macbook-pro/
[05:29] <OpheliaPandide> Getting Wifi on Ubuntu 12.10 needs manual install
[05:29] <OpheliaPandide> How to:
[05:29] <FloodBot1> OpheliaPandide: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:29] <OpheliaPandide> from
[05:29] <kunji> IveBeenBit: Umm... never heard of this disks command.  I think it might be looking at cached default mount points done by the automounting?  I think what you should read on is the mount command, umount, the mtab file, and the fstab file.
[05:31] <Rakko> kittenmittens: ouch. have you asked on askubuntu or a mailing list?
[05:31] <kittenmittens> no
[05:31] <kunji> IveBeenBit: Also for getting general info about your disks read about fdisk, parted, and blkid, also maybe hdparm
[05:31] <IveBeenBit> kunji, "Disks" is a graphical app that came with Ubuntu 12.10 check it out. It reminds me of gparted. Also, thanks for the tips.
[05:31] <kittenmittens> ive been trying to get it to work on both for over a week
[05:31] <kittenmittens> dove every possible harware test, windows works flawlessly, not ubuntu
[05:32] <IveBeenBit> kunji, that's too much info for me right now as I'm still too noobish. I will be happy when I can mount and unmount USBs and IMG files from the terminal. :-)
[05:34] <kunji> IveBeenBit: Hmm, do you know the package name?  I don't have a package called disks.  Maybe udisks, or gnome-disk-utility?
[05:34] <kittenmittens> so am i doomed to windows?
[05:34] <kunji> IveBeenBit: mount is the one you want for mount the USBs, and umount to unmount them.  IMG files I forget the command for, it involves a loopback device gimme a sec to look it up.
[05:35] <IveBeenBit> kunji, This is the homepage from the "about" menu. I think it is just called "disks." https://live.gnome.org/Design/Apps/Disks
[05:35] <kunji> IveBeenBit: Ah, both the packages I mentioned seem to be what it is (read the part under Status)
[05:37] <kunji> IveBeenBit: http://www.tech-recipes.com/rx/2747/ubuntu_how_to_mount_unmount_iso_files/ Hmm, I think it's pretty much the same process for .img as well
[05:37] <np8> Hi! I'm having a problem with my wireless network. On ubuntu 12.04 it is dropping me from the internet. After it has dropped me, it tries to reconnect, asks the password and tries to reconnect forever. I tried disabling->enabling the wireless funtionality (the "flying mode") but it doesn't help. Is here anyone who can read the crash reports (i have it as 9 png's on google drive).
[05:37] <IveBeenBit> kunji, Thanks! Adding it to my reading list now!
[05:37] <kittenmittens> i feel like background noise
[05:39] <antonio_> I'm getting a bunch of errors when I first start ubuntu 12.10 up
[05:39] <ubuntuuser> hello people. having trouble with wifi. lspci shows atheros ar9285. rfkill list shows hardblocked: yes. Side switch on the network has been toggled on/off multiple times. fn+f5 showing wifi signal has been toggled multiple times. nothing. this used to work on live usb on boot. now it doesn't. any help will be appreciated.
[05:39] <antonio_> is there a terminal command I can run to find out what the hell is going on?
[05:40] <antonio_> anyone?
[05:40] <sockswithsandals> Hello
[05:41] <ubuntuuser> lshw -class network still shows *-network DISABLED.
[05:41] <ice-> .
[05:41] <sockswithsandals> Is there a way to get the oldschool verbose boot with the little tux in the upper left corner?
[05:41] <np8> ubuntuuser: I'm having almost the same problem.. my crash report is here: https://docs.google.com/folder/d/0B-msgBr6cWoATmQxVzBuS1VpYjA/edit .. anyone know what I can do? Rebooting helps, though.
[05:41] <antonio_> I'm so over ubuntu
[05:41] <antonio_> nothing is working
[05:41] <antonio_> I can't open pdfs
[05:41] <ubuntuuser> np8: mine doesn't work with rebooting. doesn't work at all. using wired currently.
[05:42] <ice-> anyone knows if there's an IRC channel for picuntu? http://code.google.com/p/rk3066-linux/wiki/PicUntu
[05:42] <kittenmittens> how do i make ubuntu work
[05:42] <ubuntuuser> antonio_: you're trying to open pdf file using what?
[05:42] <sockswithsandals> antonio_: Why not?
[05:42] <antonio_> document viewer
[05:42] <antonio_> doesn't open them
[05:42] <sockswithsandals> WHat does it say?
[05:42] <antonio_> nothing
[05:42] <antonio_> it doesn't do anything
[05:42] <kunji> kittenmittens: It's because no one here at the moment knows the answer and you've been spamming a bit.  Typically you should just ask your question and then be patient because if someone knows they will help.  If your question is long or you have lots of supporting data (logs, screenshots, etc..) you should pastebin them and post the link with your question.  You should probably not ask the question again for at least 15 minutes, otherwise
[05:42] <ubuntuuser> sockswithsandals: the tux logo was part of the free kernel settings. so suppose you'll have to recompile the kernel unless that has changed lately.
[05:42] <sockswithsandals> try opening it in the terminal, antonio_
[05:43] <gh403> Grub2 recommends that it not be installed to a partition's boot sector.  Yet Ubuntu seems to do this if you ask it, during the installation.  Is this an issue in practice?
[05:43] <dr_willis> gh403:  if you tell it to install to sda1 yes it can... but normally it would go on sda
[05:43] <kittenmittens> -_-
[05:43] <gh403> dr_willis:
[05:43] <dr_willis> gh403:  some people want to chainload grub
[05:44] <ubuntuuser> antonio_: it doesn't open any pdfs or just the one you've tried. some pdfs tend to be huge and take a while to open. others tends to be empty.
[05:44] <antonio_> I'm also getting a lot of all pdfs
[05:45] <gh403> Yeah, I want to, dr_willis.  But Grub doesn't like that.  See the blue box in https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GRUB2#Install_to_Partition_or_Partitionless_Disk
[05:45] <antonio_> also I'm getting a lot of "system program problem detected...do you want to report the problem now"
[05:46] <antonio_> is there any way to find out what is broken on my system?
[05:47] <Rabblerouser> I just messed up my Wubi install. :S
[05:48] <ubuntuuser> antonio_: is this a livecd or a properly installed system? system program problem sounds a little serious.
[05:48] <Rabblerouser> Was trying to get graphics drivers on, but.. erm... when I restarted, I had no.. no Unity. No bar at the top when logging in, no sidebar. Just a wallpaper.
[05:49] <dr_willis> Rabblerouser:  what video card?
[05:49] <antonio_> ubuntuuser: its installed
[05:49] <Rabblerouser> I rightclicked to go to appearance settings, then backed out to see it wasn't running under "Unknown" but "VESA RV(something)"
[05:49] <Rabblerouser> ATI Radeon HD 4670
[05:50] <dr_willis> and how did you install the drivers Rabblerouser ?
[05:50] <antonio_> brb
[05:51] <Rabblerouser> Well, I kinda.. forgot there were updates in the background, so I went to looking for guidance online (sorta newbie) The tries in Terminal were blocked because apparently something else was looking at the process?
[05:51] <Rabblerouser> I'll just reinstall the Wubi thing
[05:52] <Rabblerouser> At least I think they USED to call it Wubi.
[05:52] <dr_willis> better to avoid wubi
[05:52] <Rabblerouser> How so, dr_willis?
[05:52] <dr_willis> its fragile, flakey, crashy, and slower then a full install
[05:53] <antonio_> ubuntu 12.10 is starting to get very annoying
[05:53] <Rabblerouser> I did notice it was incredibly slower than the LiveUSB.. I chocked that up to not having a proper graphics driver installed yet
[05:54] <antonio_> 10.04 worked fine...and I stupidly updated
[05:54] <antonio_> I'm getting a ton of crashes
[05:54] <dr_willis> !10,04
[05:54] <antonio_> for example just now
[05:54] <Dorito> PENIS
[05:54] <dr_willis> !10.04
[05:54] <antonio_> "the application photo lens for unity has closed unexpectdly"
[05:54] <Dorito> (sorry)
[05:54] <dr_willis> 10.04 will be eol soon
[05:55] <dr_willis> for desktop at least
[05:55] <antonio_> frick..I can't even open a damn pdf
[05:55] <Rabblerouser> Any idea when a 13.xx LTS might release? :3 And what it might bring?
[05:55] <dr_willis> Rabblerouser:  the version # is the date... year/month
[05:55] <dr_willis> of reelease
[05:56] <Rabblerouser> Aaaah. Gotcha.
[05:56] <dr_willis> Rabblerouser:  the omgubuntu and webupd8 blog sites have articals on whats going to be new in 13.04
[05:56] <antonio_> when I try to open a pdf with xpdf term spits this out
[05:56] <antonio_> http://pastebin.com/txFNHTjs
[05:56] <Rabblerouser> Should note again, I'm a linux newbie, but really wish it well. :) Even if it confounds me sometimes
[05:58] <M4dN3ss> I love penis so much
[05:58] <M4dN3ss> Penises are so nice
[05:58] <M4dN3ss> and soft
[05:58] <M4dN3ss> well
[05:58] <M4dN3ss> sometimes hard
[05:58] <FloodBot1> M4dN3ss: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:58] <Dorito> rarely
[05:58] <antonio_> Looks like the ghost of Steve Jobs is here hating on Linux ;)
[05:59] <Rabblerouser> D: Purge him
[05:59] <dr_willis> antonio_:  core dumps can be very haard to trouble shoot for beginners.. and even experienced  coders.
[05:59] <Dorito> M4dN3ss: omg me too
[05:59] <Dorito> but not really, only mine
[06:00] <antonio_> dr_willis: is there any kind of program I can run silently to find out what the hell is going on???
[06:00] <antonio_> or a term command to fix this crap?
[06:00] <kittenmittens> how do i make ubuntu work
[06:01] <dr_willis> antonio_:   if you ahve a lot of apps core duming. it could be some memory issues.. or other very complex problems that are going to be hard to track down
[06:01] <antonio_> I'm so over ubuntu right now
[06:01] <kittenmittens> lol.. mine wont even start
[06:01] <Rabblerouser> How much of an overhead does Unity ahve?
[06:01] <M4dN3ss> kittenmittens, your penis wont start?
[06:01] <M4dN3ss> that's so weird
[06:01] <M4dN3ss> my penis is always ready to go
[06:01] <dr_willis> I have very few issues with 12.10 on my systeems
[06:03] <Dmnchild_> Anyone familiar with setquota? having a hard time trying to limit a users allocated space to 100gb
[06:03] <Dorito> ubuntu 13.0 will have always-on penis support M4dN3ss
[06:03] <Ben64> antonio_: try evince
[06:04] <neodragon> OK so I am updating my daughters edubuntu 12.04  laptop and the first thing I noticed was it kept hanging when it got to updating initramfs, no errors, it just hung there. I eventually just killed the updater and tried running 'sudo update-initramfs -vvv -u' in a terminal and it keeps hanging again once it gets to 'Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-36-generic-pae/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/hp/hp100.ko' I have found nothing online so
[06:04] <kittenmittens> i dont have a penis
[06:04] <kittenmittens> when can i try 13.0?
[06:04] <antonio_> ben64: whats that?
[06:04] <Ben64> antonio_: pdf viewer
[06:05] <Ben64> !info evince
[06:06] <Ben64> kittenmittens: 13.04 is in alpha, support and discussion in #ubuntu+1
[06:06] <antonio_> ben64: no pdf viewers are working
[06:06] <Ben64> try it and pastebin the result?
[06:09] <antonio_> ben64: no pdf viewers are working
[06:10] <dr_willis> antonio_:  a bigger question is - are other apps crashing the same way
[06:10] <Ben64> yeah i saw that last time you said it
[06:10] <ubuntuuser> antonio_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/133385/getting-system-program-problem-detected-pops-up-regularly-after-upgrade-from-1
[06:10] <scary_one> hey guys... Ubuntu noob here I have a Intel GMA 3150 video card, and I've tried to install XF86-Video-Intel and now my ubuntu boots into low-graphics mode heres my X.org log http://pastebin.com/uJtSmqaz
[06:10] <ubuntuuser> rebooting....
[06:11] <dr_willis> scary_one:  intel drivers re included.. wht did you install exctly? and from where?
[06:13] <scary_one> dr_willis xf86-video-intel - 2.20.12 from 01.org
[06:13] <scary_one> and all the packages it requested
[06:13] <dr_willis> 01.org ? who are they?
[06:14] <scary_one> intel open source technology center
[06:14] <scary_one> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads
[06:14] <gormanator> hey everyone....im kinda new to ubuntu, and trying to get multitouch to work...with limited success, can anyone here point me in the right direction?
[06:15] <gormanator> I can do two finger scrolling...I tried to install touchegg...but nothing happened
[06:15] <dr_willis> scary_one:  you really need to be seeing their forum and support site - since its not  stuff from the ubuntu repositories
[06:15] <gormanator> I was just wondering if anyone here had any experience with getting multitouch to work
[06:15] <gormanator> and if they would help me out...if not no worries
[06:16] <scary_one> dr_willis tried to get help from them :) they directed my here :D
[06:16] <dr_willis> scary_one:  that would be a good sign to not use their stuff...
[06:16] <dr_willis> most people use the xswat ppa's for updateing X stuff.
[06:16] <dr_willis> ive never heard of anyone in here mention 01.org
[06:17] <scary_one> its intel linux site
[06:18] <kunji> dr_willis: Isn't all the stuff on their site already in Ubuntu?  Why repackage it.. weird.
[06:19] <dr_willis> xswat has newer updates not in the official repos
[06:19] <dr_willis> no idea what 01.org is doing ;)
[06:19] <dr_willis> unless its where the xswat guys get the updated patches and code from
[06:19] <neodragon> OK so I am updating my daughters edubuntu 12.04  laptop and the first thing I noticed was it kept hanging when it got to updating initramfs, no errors, it just hung there. I eventually just killed the updater and tried running 'sudo update-initramfs -vvv -u' in a terminal and it keeps hanging again once it gets to 'Adding module /lib/modules/3.2.0-36-generic-pae/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/hp/hp100.ko' I have found nothing online so
[06:20] <kunji> scary_one: I think when they referred you here they meant for you to use the versions in the Ubuntu repos, my best guess is that they package it like that for people that are using distros without their own facilities.
[06:23] <scary_one> any ideas how to fix it?
[06:23] <juliano_> join//
[06:23] <Ben64> scary_one: undo whatever you did
[06:24] <Rabblerouser> What is "mint" btw?
[06:24] <Ben64> !mint | Rabblerouser
[06:24] <Ben64> Rabblerouser: ok thats not really descriptive. its based on ubuntu but uses a different DE and other stuff
[06:24] <Rabblerouser> Domo arigato, Mr. ubottu
[06:24] <scary_one> i think it will be easier and quikcer to reinstall
[06:24] <Ben64> scary_one: could be
[06:24] <scary_one> :)
[06:25] <kunji> scary_one: Could be if you just installed.  Maybe just removing the package an installing from the Ubuntu repos would work.
[06:25] <kunji> *and
[06:27] <neodragon> can anyone help me with a initramfs update that just hangs, no errors, nothing, it just hangs and never completes and now after I killed that process it won't let me use synaptic or apt-get either, it says another process is running
[06:29] <kunji> That 01.org logo looks a lot like the nepomuk one.  They seem legit except that the intel logo is nowhere to be found, there is a copyright notice at the bottom of the page.  Maybe their lack of branding is supposed to make them seem more open source friendly... or to distance the rest of the company from it, who knows...
[06:30] <kittenmittens> is it possible that ubuntu 13.04 will run better on my pc than 12.10, im aving alot of issues with 12.10
[06:36] <xrs> your welcome to try out the latest builds and proposed updates
[06:37] <vvoid> I went through a crypto nightmare, but I could restore my data thanks to all of your good work. Thanks. Btw: never let your ecryptfs mounts run out of space
[06:37] <xrs> or try out an older version that is still supported
[06:37] <xrs> thanks vvoid
[06:38] <vvoid> I used to be more one of the rtfm guys, but there are times when one is in need of good community work
[06:40] <neodragon> ok so even though I see multiple posts online about ubuntu 12.04 hanging in the middle of updating initramfs, no one in here either has any idea about how to fix it or cares to help is that it?
[06:42] <TheLordOfTime> neodragon, or nobody's around who can help.
[06:42] <Ububegin> W: Failed to fetch http://sg.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick-updates/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404  Not Found .... Which repository shld i change to now ?
[06:42] <TheLordOfTime> neodragon, at least in here, that could be the case.
[06:43] <TheLordOfTime> neodragon, hangs are hard to debug - so if there's "no solution" you need patience
[06:43] <TheLordOfTime> !10.10 | Ububegin
[06:43] <TheLordOfTime> Ububegin, solution is to upgrade to a supported release (at least 11.10)
[06:43] <TheLordOfTime> (although i suggest 12.04 since 11.10 EOLs in april)
[06:44] <Ububegin> TheLordOfTime: This is a legacy machine... Isnt there any archives to still cont'd apt-get -ing
[06:45] <TheLordOfTime> Ububegin, not with 10.10.
[06:45] <TheLordOfTime> !eol | Ububegin
[06:45] <xrs> neodragon,  have you tried turning on verbose=yes in /etc/default/rcS and logging the startup?
[06:45] <TheLordOfTime> Ububegin, you can try using old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu instead in your apt repos/mirrors
[06:46] <TheLordOfTime> but those aren't supported, keep that in mind
[06:46] <TheLordOfTime> since 10.10's EOL it gets *no* security updates and *no* other updates
[06:46] <neodragon> xrs: its not the startup/boot that is the problem, it boots just fine, it is the updating of initramfs that hangs and it keeps hanging on '/lib/modules/3.2.0-36-generic-pae/kernel/drivers/net/ethernet/hp/hp100.ko' for some reason, but it gives no errors
[06:47] <lud> i need help on ARM image
[06:48] <neodragon> xrs: or rather it hangs when it gets to adding that module during the update
[06:48] <scaris> hm
[06:48] <scaris> changed my default display manager to gdm
[06:49] <scary_one> now i'm stuck at ubuntu load screen
[06:50] <scary_one> the dot's are channging colors buut nothing else happens
[06:50] <lud> i want to install ubuntu ARM image to an m960 android tablet
[06:55] <xrs> neodragon,  first thing i would try is removing that package, updateing, then put it back on
[06:55] <xrs> driver*
[07:00] <xrs> aww i found an answer for him but he left
[07:01] <kittenmittens> i need answers
[07:02] <xrs> to what? im sorry all i see is your question about 13.04
[07:02] <kittenmittens> dont worry :) nobodys been able to help me all week
[07:03] <xrs> to that i say you are free to roll back to an older version of ubuntu, or try out the latest builds and proposed updates
[07:03] <kittenmittens> ive tryed 12.04 12.10 and im about to try 13.04
[07:04] <Ben64> kittenmittens: give more info. just saying "i need help" or "it doesn't work" does not help
[07:04] <red82> xrs: you were just too slow for neodragon
[07:04] <red82> shame really
[07:06] <kittenmittens> well i dont know whats wrong, after installing i update and everything breaks every time, its always differnt, ether my filesystem goes read only and nobody can fix that for a week, or like now it just wont boot
[07:06] <xrs> lol i know who you are
[07:06] <xrs> what filesystem are you using?
[07:07] <kittenmittens> its not my hardware, redownloaded ubuntu countless times, checked md5 every time, tryed cd and usb, and having the same issues on 2 comouters
[07:07] <kittenmittens> me? ive tryed both ext3 and 4
[07:07] <kittenmittens> no difference
[07:08] <xrs> how long does the clean install take?
[07:08] <kittenmittens> like 10 minutes?
[07:08] <xrs> hmm
[07:08] <xrs> if it was a USB issue it would take a lot longer than that.
[07:08] <kittenmittens> all my hardware is fine
[07:09] <kittenmittens> ive checked literally 50 billion times now, everyone keeps blaming my hardware or the iso
[07:09] <xrs> well i had similar problems and my problem was the thumbdrives. i had to buy new ones
[07:09] <kittenmittens> i tryed cd too
[07:09] <kittenmittens> and 2 thumb drives
[07:09] <kittenmittens> nothing is broke n
[07:09] <xrs> next the problems i was having had to do with udisks. it didnt have proper support for ext2
[07:09] <kepler> install it in a VM on the computer you're on now, if you do everything the same and it works, then it is hardware
[07:10] <kittenmittens> its not the hardware
[07:10] <kepler> well millions of other people are using the same ISOs, so it isn't ubuntu
[07:10] <kepler> it may not be faulty hardware, it may just be unsupported hardware
[07:10] <xrs> kittenmittens,  its a good idea.   when troubleshooting computers you gotta tinker and rule out all possibilities, find out what works (and i dont mean just hardware) and what doesnt
[07:11] <kittenmittens> mhmm.. my brand new computer that has a readout screen of every tiny issue that could possibly happen, on the motherboard hasnt found anything
[07:11] <kittenmittens> ive doe checks and tests people ahve told me to do for days
[07:11] <xrs> so currently it is not booting, can you see anything on the screen?
[07:11] <kittenmittens> ive ruled out hardware
[07:11] <xrs> can you watch the startup process?
[07:11] <kepler> what computer is it? do other operating systems work?
[07:12] <kittenmittens> it goes purple and we tryed a differnt kernal and it gets stuck at initializing ramdisks? or something
[07:12] <kittenmittens> windows works flawlessly
[07:12] <kepler> do you have a link to the hardware in it?
[07:13] <kittenmittens> its an 8core amd 3+ at 3.5 ghz, on an asus crosshair vformula z motherboard, with 16 gigs of ddr3 1866mhz ram at 10 - 10 - 10 -24 clocks, on 2 sticks. i have a 250 gb vortex 4 sata 3 ssd
[07:13] <xrs> kittenmittens,  there is some good info here: http://blog.tridgell.net/?p=57
[07:13] <kittenmittens> and an msi 7950 -_-
[07:14] <kepler> ok, in bios do you have the hd stuff set to ahci, ide passthrough, anything?
[07:14] <kittenmittens> ill check
[07:15] <kittenmittens> the post is so fast you gotta use a button on the motherboard to get to it.. its anoying
[07:15] <kepler> uefi stuff can be weird too
[07:16] <xrs> yeah hardware ment for win8 boots way too fast
[07:16] <kittenmittens> um
[07:16] <kittenmittens> i dont know how to do that on my bios.. theres litterlally thousands of options
[07:17] <kittenmittens> oh i found it
[07:17] <xrs> im sure there was a manual printed
[07:17] <kittenmittens> on chip sata channel is enabled, and they are all set to ahci
[07:17] <kittenmittens> and sata esp is disabled ona ll the ports, i dont know what that means
[07:17] <xrs> bookmark that page i gave ya so u can check it l8r
[07:18] <JustinW> yo
[07:18] <kittenmittens> i cant, i have no stable os atm
[07:18] <xrs> no persistence file?
[07:18] <kittenmittens> so can anyone help me?
[07:18] <JustinW> what is a good tool for automatic file replication between servers?
[07:18] <JustinW> ubuntu linux.
[07:18] <kepler> what other options are there for the ahci?
[07:18] <xrs> yeah that page i gave you has some useful info
[07:19] <kittenmittens> ide and raid
[07:19] <kepler> throw it on ide and see how it goes
[07:20] <kittenmittens> wont that make it slower
[07:20] <kepler> no
[07:20] <kepler> it is still a 3 or 6g sata port, it just pretends it is ide
[07:20] <kittenmittens> locked up on purple screen again
[07:20] <xrs> JustinW, http://sourceforge.net/projects/synchronicity/?source=directory
[07:21] <kepler> what do you see prior to that purple screen?
[07:21] <xrs> kittenmittens,  do you have persistence?
[07:21] <kittenmittens> nothing
[07:21] <kittenmittens> i dont know what that is xrs
[07:21] <kepler> no post, grub, nothing?
[07:21] <kittenmittens> i can get grub if i spam shift like a maniake sometimes