[00:00] <R3dC4p> Also should note that I'm on the HWE kernel.
[00:04] <xrandr> Hi there.  I have an ubuntu 18.04 server, and used netplan to apply a set of static ip addresses. However, when i use ifconfig, I do not see the ips being bound to my server.
[00:07] <TJ-> xrandr: netplan renders the config to systemd.network configuration in /run/systemd/network/ so first check there to ensure the config has been created and looks correct.
[00:07] <TJ-> xrandr: Secondly, are you assigning IP addresses to bridges or raw physical interfaces
[00:08] <xrandr> TJ: I am not sure if this answers your question, but I am renting a server from a server hosting company that has assigned me a /29 range of ips. Looking at the file you told me to look at, I am not sure if it is doing it properly.
[00:09] <TJ-> xrandr: pastebin the netplan config so we can check
[00:09] <teward> oh didn't notice they were in here
[00:09] <teward> in which case...
[00:09] <teward> !crosspost | xrandr
[00:09] <TJ-> xrandr: and let's go to #ubuntu-server where you first asked since that is more appropriate channel
[00:09] <teward> ^ there
[00:10] <xrandr> Ok
[00:10] <xrandr> going there
[00:10] <xrandr> sorry for cross posting.   It keeps saying VirtualBox can't operate in VMX root mode. Please disable the KVM kernel extension, recompile your kernel and reboot (VERR_VMX_IN_VMX_ROOT_MODE).
[00:14] <OnkelTem> Is there some quickfix for that?
[00:15] <OnkelTem> Ah, I know
[00:16] <OnkelTem> nevermind
[00:24] <Apachez> OnkelTem: what was it then?
[00:29] <Mibix> I'm trying to remove my NTFS partition from my drive that also has my main ubuntu partition
[00:29] <Mibix> im a bit worried
[00:30] <Mibix> if i delete it will i still have grub to launch ubuntu? https://imgur.com/a/DNiWJqp
[00:32] <R3dC4p> Mibix: Grub should have installed by default to the linux partition.
[00:32] <Mibix> it looks like it
[00:33] <Mibix> hmm i cant reallocate that space to ext4 either :/
[00:33] <Mibix> maybe in clonezilla?
[00:37] <Mibix> nvm i got it hehe
[00:38] <Sushi-san> I'm having trouble downloading AMD's Radeon driver software on 18.04 LTS. I'm following the instructions on this page (https://amdgpu-install.readthedocs.io/en/latest/install-prereq.html#extracting-the-package-archive), but I get this error: "(child): amdgpu-pro-18.50-708488.tar.xz: Cannot open: No such file or directory"
[00:38] <Sushi-san> What should I do?
[00:38] <tomreyn> use amdgpu instead
[00:39] <R3dC4p> haha, look at tomreyn. answering all the amdgpu questions.
[00:40] <Sushi-san> There is no amdgpu that I can find, only amdgpu-pro
[00:40] <tomreyn> Sushi-san: amdgpu is an open source kernel module which is part of ubuntu 18.04
[00:40] <Sushi-san> Ah, I see.
[00:40] <Sushi-san> How do I access it, then?
[00:41] <R3dC4p> Sushi-san: depending on your card, it may already be running. run lshw -c video
[00:41] <tomreyn> Sushi-san: it should get loaded automatically on compatible hardware.
[00:43] <Sushi-san> It's showing that I have an RX 470 instead of an RX 580, and there aren't any options for me to use
[00:44] <tomreyn> Sushi-san: run this: sudo update-pciids
[00:45] <tomreyn> Sushi-san: this downloads and configures a new database of PCI vendor and device IDs, enabling your system to report more properly on the hardware ou have installed.
[00:45] <Sushi-san> That did it, yes
[00:45] <Sushi-san> Thank you
[00:45] <Sushi-san> But how can I configure things like I would with Radeon Software on windows?
[00:46] <tomreyn> the equivalent for USB is: sudo update-usbids
[00:46] <tomreyn> sorry, i don't know radeon software on windows.
[00:46] <tomreyn> you could describe what you're missing
[00:47] <R3dC4p> Sushi-san: Not even sure if AMD provides an overlay for thier open stack. tomreyn, amd drivers on windows provied a GUI for configuring various settings related to thier hardware. driver forceed antialiasing options and the like
[00:48] <Sushi-san> Exactly
[00:49] <tomreyn> "man radeon" will show the drivers' man page if you'd like to make global settings
[00:49] <Sushi-san> But I should be alright with whatever is preset on 18.04 LTS in terms of GPU drivers, then, R3dC4p?
[00:50] <tomreyn> (requires the 'man-db' package, man pages are also available online at http://manpages.ubuntu.com )
[00:50] <R3dC4p> Sushi-san: I have not yet had any issues with the defaults, but I have also only had the amdgpu driver running for 24 hours or so. I was on here last night trying to get it running.
[00:50] <R3dC4p> Also, tomreyn does man radeon show amdgpu settings? i know amdgpu has it's own man page
[00:50] <tomreyn> i'm using the same hardware for about 1.5 years now with this driver and it works fine for me
[00:51] <tomreyn> R3dC4p: oops i mean man amdgpu, thanks
[00:51] <tomreyn> Sushi-san: ^
[00:51] <Sushi-san> Good to know. I've had this card for 2 weeks now with no problems. Was just curious about the drivers.
[00:52] <tomreyn> a lot more can be controlled with https://www.mesa3d.org/envvars.html
[00:53] <tomreyn> but there's no gui for it, or none that i'm aware of
[00:53] <tomreyn> there is driconf but it's considered legacy
[00:55] <tomreyn> oh look https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/mesa-dev/2018-January/182058.html
[00:56] <Sushi-san> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[00:56] <Sushi-san> this is also useful
[00:57] <UnknowN-Connecti> hi everybody .... some1 had problem with dual video card on laptops ?
[00:58] <Sushi-san> my mistake, this is better https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[00:58] <Sushi-san> *https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AMDGPU-Driver
[01:00] <Term1nal> What are the chances someone has a Dell Precision 7720 that came preinstalled with ubuntu who wouldn't mind letting me use their service tag number to download the Dell-proprietary ubuntu recovery image iso that they lock behind the service tag only valid for that model of laptop having come from the factory with ubuntu?
[01:01] <Term1nal> Since that particular model simply doesn't function stable with the standard ubuntu image, despite being "certified"
[01:08] <R3dC4p> Term1nal: are you unable to get your service tag#? should be available in the BIOS
[01:09] <Term1nal> The machine in question (not mine, helping a friend) did not come factory pre-installed with Ubuntu, therefore is unusable for the purpose of downloading the ubuntu iso image from Dell's site, as it is locked behind a service tag verification check
[01:09] <UnknowN-Connecti> Sushi-san: thanks bro, but i use nvidia
[01:10] <Term1nal> Looking to liberate the poor beast of a machine with Linux
[01:10] <R3dC4p> Ahhh. Well. that's certainly crappy of Dell.
[01:10] <Term1nal> And of Canonical
[01:10] <Term1nal> Canonical should never have "certified" the device if it doesn't work with the standard ubuntu image.
[01:10] <UnknowN-Connecti> i tried something change modprobe setting drm .... looks great now ... i should test better
[01:10] <Term1nal> Seems kind of counter-intuitive
[01:11] <Term1nal> The fact that I need to use a Dell-supplied image with proprietary drivers and special kernel parameters to get the hardware to run properly is pretty asinine of both parties.
[01:13] <R3dC4p> Agreed. This might not help at all, because my mobile workstation is in no way related to the Dell, but are you on the latest BIOS? Is Secureboot enabled?
[01:14] <tomreyn> Term1nal: IIRC "dmesg | grep DMI:" would return the service tag. or dmidecode.
[01:14] <NewToLubuntu> I was wondering if someone would recommend me some low-resource software for basic video editing things
[01:14] <NewToLubuntu> like say pasting together 2 short clips into 1 video file, or possibly cropping off parts of a video file to make it shorter, or splitting a long file into shorter files, etc
[01:14] <tomreyn> Term1nal: what doesn't work well with the default installer?
[01:15] <R3dC4p> NewToLubuntu: I've used both Openshot and Shotcut for that purpose, and found them agreeable.
[01:16] <tomreyn> NewToLubuntu: any of these tasks which don't strictly require a GUI can probably be done with ffmpeg on the CLI (but I would also need to learn how exactly)
[01:18] <NewToLubuntu> is CLI liek the command prompt?
[01:18] <NewToLubuntu> I'm bad at ermembering commands, hoping for some limited visual interface
[01:18] <NewToLubuntu> would both OS and SC run fine on lxde?
[01:20] <Mibix> is there a way to get this unallocated space on to my ext4 partiton?
[01:20] <babuloseo> NewToLubuntu: yes
[01:20] <Mibix> https://imgur.com/a/5y2HN9w
[01:20] <babuloseo> its like command prompt
[01:20] <babuloseo> in Linux we use the command line a lot
[01:20] <babuloseo> its part of the reason why a lot of people use it
[01:20] <babuloseo> in MacOS and Linux the terminal is used heavily
[01:21] <Term1nal> tomreyn: not sure you caught the part about the service tag must also validate that the machine in question came with ubuntu from the factory in order to download the dell ubuntu image, the particular laptop in question was Windows 10 originally.
[01:21] <EriC^^> Mibix: that's pretty odd, i thought you had to have at least 1 primary partition
[01:22] <Mibix> lol there used to be a ntfs partition?
[01:22] <R3dC4p> NewToLubuntu: I don't see any reason why they wouldn't, but i'm not an LXDE user.
[01:22] <Term1nal> tomreyn: in addition to that, as I understand it, ubuntu installed successfully but it's generally unstable/unusable/crashing. I don't have the machine in front of my physically, just trying to help a friend acquire the Dell image that should apparently contain the necessary drivers and kernel parameters of which are unavailable otherwise.
[01:22] <tomreyn> Term1nal: i guess then you'll be out of luck.
[01:22] <Term1nal> My hope was that someone might have one of these units that wouldn't mind letting me use their service tag to acquire the iso
[01:23] <EriC^^> Mibix: 1st i'd recommend to backup the data before trying anything on it
[01:23] <tomreyn> Term1nal: personally i doubt the image will contain anything you can't get from other sources.
[01:23] <R3dC4p> Question repost time. In Kubuntu 18.04, attempting to lauch a Plasma session with Wayland, I get the splash screen, and the session crashes back to SDDM. Graphics drivers in used are i915 (HD Graphics 520) and amdgpu (Opal XT, AKA AMD m265)
[01:23] <Term1nal> according to Ubuntu's certification page, it does.
[01:23] <Term1nal> furthermore, dell's support site does not offer the drivers individually for download
[01:24] <NewToLubuntu> I've been using lubuntu on and off for a couple months but still haven't gotten to the bottom of why I need to make as if I am running a scan and then cancel it to boot up properly
[01:24] <NewToLubuntu> something about canceling the normal graphics I think
[01:24] <NewToLubuntu> would be nice if I could just start and go right to login screen
[01:24] <Term1nal> and I've tried searching the vast interwebs for a copy of the iso, searching by the hash provided on the download page
[01:25] <R3dC4p> Term1nal: it's likely that the necessary modules and such are available elsewhere, if you physically had the unit, you could probably get help with figuring out why it's crashing, and solve the problems manualy.
[01:25] <Term1nal> Yeah I could, but unfortunately not possible, wish I could have it in front of me to troubleshoot
[01:26] <tomreyn> Term1nal: you could have your friend install an ssh server and connect to that
[01:26] <NewToLubuntu> Synaptic Package Manager didn't find shotcut so I'll go with openshot I guess. There's actually a lot of things named that. openshot says (transitional package) at end whereas openshot-qt does not
[01:26] <Term1nal> as I understand it, networking doesn't function either.
[01:27] <EriC^^> Mibix: after doing the backup you could try if gparted could move it to the start of the disk and expand it, or to the same effect you could see where the filesystem starts and from the backup copy it to a fresh partition you make at the start
[01:27] <Mibix> EriC^^ not quite sure how to fix it though
[01:27] <Mibix> i am backing it up before
[01:27] <EriC^^> Mibix: is it backed up already?
[01:28] <Mibix> not yet but shouldnt take long
[01:28] <Mibix> what would i do after?
[01:28] <EriC^^> it's data right? no os or anything?
[01:28] <Mibix> no its my ubuntu install
[01:28] <EriC^^> oh ok
[01:28] <Mibix> i was editing it using the live cd
[01:29] <tomreyn> Term1nal: have them find someone local to them who helps them with the first steps, then you can take over
[01:29] <EriC^^> Mibix: well, once it's backed up, delete the partitions completely, then create 1 big primary partition
[01:30] <EriC^^> Mibix: then create a filesystem using mkfs.ext4 -U <put your old uuid here>
[01:31] <Mibix> nothing ever easy on linux
[01:31] <EriC^^> and mount the backup and use rsync to copy everything to the new partition then chroot into it and reinstall grub to the mbr and update-grub
[01:31] <NewToLubuntu> I have some weird 3.7gb volume which seems to have partitioned as a copy of the lubuntu OS, no idea why
[01:31] <EriC^^> Mibix: you're doing something kinda advanced though, to be fair
[01:31] <EriC^^> it's actually more complex, even not possible using windows tools (ever tried diskpart?)
[01:32] <Mibix> is it because its not contiguous
[01:32] <Mibix> i def spelled that wrong
[01:33] <EriC^^> Mibix: well gparted might know what to do, maybe not, usually you absolutely have to have a primary partition + other extended if you want, so that might throw it off
[01:33] <Term1nal> gparted usually can handle this pretty easily.
[01:33] <Mibix> did you see the screenshot?
[01:33] <Mibix> https://imgur.com/a/DNiWJqp
[01:33] <Mibix> wait wrong one https://imgur.com/a/5y2HN9w
[01:34] <Term1nal> Yes, you should be able to drag that outer layer portion to the left.
[01:35] <Mibix> what? at the top right there?
[01:35] <EriC^^> Mibix: you can right click on it in the table and press move
[01:35] <Term1nal> that graphical representation of the partitions is interactive.
[01:36] <Term1nal> you should be able to use that to move the partitions around.
[01:36] <Mibix> ok let me finish this backup and ill try again
[01:37] <Term1nal> Other option, rsync your home folder to an external storage device, reformat and reinstall fresh
[01:37] <Mibix> no way
[01:37] <Mibix> lol
[01:37] <Mibix> rather lose all that space
[01:37] <NewToLubuntu> R3dC4p: do you know if the "Razor Tool" (red handled scissors) would be how I would split clips up?
[01:37] <NewToLubuntu> I'm a little unclear how to use it, nothing seems to happen when I click the icon
[01:38] <Term1nal> or rsync the entire partition to external storage, reformat to ext4, rsync it back, use grub repair disk to fix the boot loader.
[01:38] <Term1nal> Like nothing happened
[01:38] <NewToLubuntu> oh wait, a little dropdown arrow appears... go it.
[01:38] <NewToLubuntu> they should mention that in the tutorial!
[01:40] <Mibix> im actually gonna try to use that gparted thing now
[01:40] <Mibix> backup will take a long time
[01:40] <EriC^^> Mibix: i'd backup first, resizing moving etc tools aren't that reliable in my experience
[01:40] <R3dC4p> NewToLubuntu: The razor tool cuts wherever you click. :)
[01:40] <Term1nal> might be wise to still backup first
[01:40] <Term1nal> if you resize it and something goes wrong, rip your install
[01:41] <Mibix> i just want to see if its possible
[01:41] <Term1nal> AHAB Always Have A Backup
[01:41] <Mibix> not gonna do it
[01:41] <R3dC4p> Term1nal: I prefer AH3B :P
[01:41] <Term1nal> true
[01:42] <R3dC4p> Local copy, copy on server, copy on remote server at a friends house, in my case.
[01:42] <Mibix> i mean i have backups just not images :p
[01:45] <R3dC4p> Every computer in my house does a full image weekly, and backs up specific folders daily to my rackmount in the basement. That rackmount rsyncs the backup drives monthly to another rackmount 25 miles away. remote server holds 3 moths worth of backups.
[01:45] <fishcooker> im got stuck/error on Boot error: Started update utmp about system runlevel changes... im trying to troubleshooting by searching the syslog but no luck... what should i do when the error happen again... the workaround is try to restart once again by pressing ctrl+alt+del
[01:45] <Mibix> yeah this isnt a VM so its hard to do images
[01:46] <Mibix> its got all my storage too
[01:47] <R3dC4p> Mibix: Start imaging it from a live USB, and store your images on an external hdd
[01:47] <Mibix> i really just dread configuring everything
[01:47] <Mibix> yeah that's what im doing R3dC4p
[01:47] <Mibix> i just got clonezilla
[01:48] <R3dC4p> Mibix: I wouldn't suggest that any home user have the setup that I have. It was a nightmare to set up, and if the equipment wasn't free, It would have cost more thousands of dollars than I want to spend.
[01:49] <Mibix> yeah Term1nal i have no options to resize i knew it!
[01:53] <Mibix> i can only shrink it
[01:53] <Term1nal> rsync your whole partition to external storage, reformat drive to 1GB ext2 partition (for /boot) and the rest ext4, rsync your entire partition back to the ext4 partition, use linux boot repair disc to fix the bootloader.
[01:53] <Mibix> lol
[01:53] <Mibix> another day
[01:53] <Term1nal> your install will work as it did before, and have all of the storage available.
[01:54] <Mibix> can you the ubuntu live disc do boot repair?
[01:54] <Mibix> or where do i get one of these magical disks
[01:58] <NewToLubuntu> ugh somehow when I edit together about 40% of a 5mb video and a 7 mb video I get a 64 mb monstrosity
[01:58] <NewToLubuntu> I think it upscaled somehow, how do I get it to stay the same format when Ie xport?
[02:03] <R3dC4p> NewToLubuntu: Not sure exactly, you should have compression and container options when you export. I'd check the documentation. https://www.openshot.org/static/files/user-guide/index.html
[02:04] <NewToLubuntu> originally 480 x 360, got vids off youtube
[02:05] <NewToLubuntu> 480x480 (SCVD NTSC) sounds like it's the closest
[02:06] <Term1nal> Mibix: I've used https://www.supergrubdisk.org/ with decent success
[02:06] <Term1nal> goodluck
[02:07] <NewToLubuntu> I think prob is quality defaults to high, setting to med
[02:08] <R3dC4p> Youtube is well known for heavily compressing their videos. if there is a web option, i'd use that, that would supply the highest compression or look for a 'Quality' option. alternatively, reencode the video with Handbrake, which I know provides web presets.
[02:12] <Sven_vB> what's the latest fad in config management? is puppet still a thing?
[02:12] <dsc_> nano
[02:14] <dylanc29> Hi everyone.  Kinda dumb question here -- i'm trying to make sure .gif files have thumbnails.  I looked at a few different things and it seems like the .cache folder is root-only.  As a user I don't have access to it.  My question is:  is it safe to change the permissions of the .cache folder?
[02:15] <Sven_vB> dylanc29, where is that .cache folder?
[02:16] <dylanc29> it's just the normal ~/Home/.cache folder
[02:16] <Sven_vB> probably depends on which kinds of attackers and attack vectors you're up against
[02:16] <Sven_vB> then it should probably be writable and owned by the user whose home directory that is.
[02:17] <dylanc29> I guess I should reformulate my question:  is the Thumbnail folder *supposed* to be root only or have I changed it somehow?
[02:17] <Sven_vB> if this were on a webspace, you'd have to make sure no-one abuses upload permissions to store malware or exceed your quotas.
[02:17] <dylanc29> Right, it's just my home pc really.  No worries on that front.
[02:17] <Sven_vB> nah, the root ownership probably happened by accident
[02:18] <dylanc29> Can I get away with changing just the thumbnail folder permissions or does the enclosing folder also have to be set to user access?
[02:18] <Sven_vB> oh actually the .cache directly in a home directory isn't just for thumbnails, but lots of stuff. and it should always be owned by and writable for the home dir owner.
[02:19] <dylanc29> ah i see.  weird!  dunno how i must have changed that be currently it's not even access for a user
[02:19] <dylanc29> because*
[02:20] <Sven_vB> maybe something/someone copied the home dir as root and didn't opt to preserve ownership
[02:24] <Mibix> damn this clonezilla is taking forever lol
[02:24] <Mibix> 40 minutes for 84gb :o
[02:24] <tatertots> that sucks
[02:25] <tatertots> i use clonezilla 240GB SSD and it only takes about 6 or 7 minutes
[02:25] <dylanc29> To make sure I'm not being a total idiot: when I look through the gui and look at the permissions tab I see Owner:me having create/delete file access but group <my name> have none.  Does that actually mean user space has no permissions on that folder?
[02:25] <Mibix> lol this is a SSD
[02:25] <tatertots> to get a image of a ubuntu install
[02:25] <Mibix> but its going to this crappy USB external drive
[02:25] <tatertots> at least it's usb 3.x
[02:26] <Mibix> oh no its not
[02:26] <Mibix> lol
[02:26] <tatertots> it could be slower
[02:26] <Mibix> i just looked it up
[02:26] <tatertots> even still..it could be slower
[02:26] <Mibix> x8dtl-3f
[02:26] <Mibix> ya
[02:26]  * Mibix cries a lil bit
[02:26] <tatertots> i use esata
[02:27] <Mibix> https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/QPI/5500/X8DTL-3F.cfm
[02:27] <tatertots> sata > esata
[02:27] <Mibix> this is an old boye
[02:27] <tatertots> or sometimes i esata > sata (internal drive)
[02:30] <dylanc29> @Sven_vB i seem to have been mistaken!  but if the folder is accessible to me i'm not sure why .gifs aren't being thumbnailed tbh.
[02:30] <Sven_vB> dylanc29, verify your mime type detection
[02:30] <Sven_vB> dylanc29, do thumbs work for other images?
[02:31] <dylanc29> Yep, perfectly for everything else that I can see.  pngs, webms and such.
[02:31] <dylanc29> not for .xcf's I think
[02:36] <dylanc29> Uh, you mean verify it's actually a gif using mimetype as a command in terminal right?  Tested one of the gifs and yeah it's a gif.
[02:36] <matsaman> you talking about 'Files'?
[02:36] <matsaman> it doesn't show you thumbs for GIFs?
[02:36] <dylanc29> Yeah
[02:36] <dylanc29> I thought it was a permissions issue but that's not the case.
[02:39] <dylanc29> it's not very important, of course, but just weird.  it's .xcf's and apparently .gifs
[02:40] <matsaman> XCF is a fairly unique format, I'm not sure that's special
[02:40] <matsaman> you got totem installed?
[02:40] <dylanc29> yeah, meaning the video player right?
[02:40] <matsaman> yeah
[02:40] <dylanc29> I do.
[02:41] <matsaman> this seems a pretty comprehensive solution: https://askubuntu.com/questions/627088/nautilus-not-generating-thumbnails-for-gif-images
[02:43] <dylanc29> Yeah I saw that :\.  Tiny bit complicated for me but I'll take a look and see if it's something I'll do.  Like I said, not the worst issue in the world.  Anyway, thank you and sven both for the  help!  Have a good one.
[02:43] <Sven_vB> yw
[02:43] <subscious> Hello. I tried fixing an issue where xubuntu wouldn't let me into ttys so I installed a nvidia driver. Now the system boots into a black screen most of the times. It doesn't respond to anything. I tryed installing ubuntu but same issue
[02:44] <Sven_vB> subscious, what graphics card do you use?
[02:44] <subscious> a geforce gtx 960m
[02:44] <Sven_vB> subscious, have you searched the web for "ubuntu" + that product name?
[02:44] <subscious> I can boot into recovery mode
[02:44] <subscious> no Sven_vB
[02:45] <Mibix> asd;lkfja.sldjfknlas;l,knfdjh
[02:45] <Sven_vB> if you have a computer working enough, give it a try :)
[02:45] <Mibix> what the hell clonezillaa
[02:45] <Mibix> it just started again
[02:46] <Mibix> ohhh its checking the image
[02:46] <Mibix> derp
[02:47] <subscious> how do I check what nvidia driver is the right one?
[02:49] <Mibix>  can i stop clonezilla in the middle of it checking image after it created one?
[02:49] <Mibix> i assume its done with the image?
[02:50] <Bashing-om> subscious: See: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/141700/en-us . What release do you have installed ?
[02:51] <subscious> lshw shows nothing under configuration. I'm in recovery mode though. does that matter?
[02:51] <NewToLubuntu> I made a video smal lenough but am getting an error "MP4 must be made up of one H264 and one AAC stream only."
[02:52] <Bashing-om> subscious: recover == nomodeset, and yeah .. no upper level driver is loaded.
[02:53] <subscious> Bashing-om: I've seen about that nomodeset thing on the webs but couldn't find out how to do it.
[02:54] <subscious> Is it worth mentioning that booting into a livecd/usb as the same black screen issue? So it doesn't seem to be the installation
[02:55] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | subscious -> One thing at a time and I try and hang with you.
[02:56] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | subscious -> One thing at a time and I try and hang with you.
[02:57] <subscious> Bashing-om: So I entered nomodeset into the grub2 boot thing. is this permanent? And what exactly does this? I get a loginscreen now. But it's low res
[02:57] <Bashing-om> subscious: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 <- How to set NOMODESET and other kernel boot options in grub2.
[02:59] <Bashing-om> subscious: A added boot parameter in grub is one time boot thing.
[02:59] <subscious> Bashing-om: okay
[02:59] <subscious> This did the same thing as going into recovery mode I figure
[02:59] <Bashing-om> subscious: What release are we working with ?
[03:00] <Bashing-om> subscious: recovery mode only loads the bare essentials, All services other you must enable.
[03:01] <subscious> it's ubuntu 18.04
[03:01] <subscious> 18.04.1
[03:02] <subscious> So should I add the nomodeset permanently to grub?
[03:03] <matsaman> subscious: nothing bad happens if you try it
[03:03] <matsaman> it either works or it doesn't
[03:03] <Bashing-om> subscious: NO .. we need to find put why the module (driver) does not load .. nomodeset defeats kernel mode setting and has some far ranging undesired side effects.
[03:04] <subscious> Bashing-om: okay. So how do we proceed?
[03:07] <Bashing-om> subscious: 1st is to lnow what there is to clean up - show us : dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ; sudo find / -name "NVIDIA-Linux-*"
[03:09] <subscious> Bashing-om: it shows nothing (only some access denieds of find)
[03:15] <Bashing-om> subscious: By that ^ I am going to "assume" clean. try ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' When done, reboot to see the effect.
[03:17] <coconut> Can live usb of Ubuntu read all Windows file systems?
[03:19] <leftyfb> coconut: you mean all 4 of them? yes
[03:21] <coconut> Yes i do. (I did not knew them all by name)
[03:21] <coconut> :)
[03:21] <coconut> Thnx leftyfb
[03:23] <subscious> Bashing-om: Still the black screen
[03:25] <Bashing-om> subscious: Pastebin the logfile ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' . See what the manager thinks.
[03:26] <subscious> Bashing-om: Should I boot into nomodeset again then?
[03:27] <Bashing-om> subscious: Well, can you boot as far as the login screen ? and here activate a console interface ( ctl+alt+F2) ?
[03:29] <subscious> I restarted entered grub and accidently started ubuntu unchanged and it made it to the login screen. I can't login though. it just cycles back. I can access tty2 :)
[03:30] <subscious> I get weird screen interferences though. I had that some time back but it disappeared and started turning up randomly after installing linux now.
[03:30] <subscious> how do I pastebin the logfile? I don't know how to network from shell nor do I know if the network is even connected
[03:31] <Bashing-om> subscious: Login there at TTY2 :) .. ' /var/log/gpu-manager.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ' and pass the resulting URL back here.
[03:31] <subscious> no cat?
[03:32] <Bashing-om> subscious: Oppps sorry ,, yeah cat !
[03:33] <subscious> https://termbin.com/soa3
[03:37] <Bashing-om> subscious: Manager is happy ... now do "you" have authorization to access the desktop? '  ls -al .ICEauthority .Xauthority '
[03:39] <subscious> Doesn't find the Xauthority file/folder and has rw 00 on the ICEauthority
[03:39] <subscious> and my usr my group
[03:44] <craigbass76> Is Ubuntu using dnsmasq by default? I know Mint is, but wasn't sure -- I'm on the fence about which to install, and need to set up a whitelisting thing to keep my kids off youtube when they're supposed to be doing schoolwork.
[03:44] <Bashing-om> subscious: And have you ever to this time in this install been able to activate the GUI ? ( why there may be no .Xauthority file ) Mine: -rw------- 1 sysop sysop 3956 Jan 10 15:50 .ICEauthority - -rw------- 1 sysop sysop   54 Jan 10 15:50 .Xauthority ".
[03:48] <subscious> got disconnected :/
[03:48] <efrey> hello, can someone please help me to nstall wine on 18.4? i get strange errors...
[03:50] <Bashing-om> subscious: My last: < Bashing-om> subscious: And have you ever to this time in this install been able to activate the GUI ? ( why there may be no .Xauthority file ) Mine: -rw------- 1 sysop sysop 3956 Jan 10 15:50 .ICEauthority - -rw------- 1 sysop sysop   54 Jan 10 15:50 .Xauthority ".
[03:51] <efrey> hello?
[03:52] <efrey> can someone read me?
[03:52] <Bashing-om> !patience | efrey
[03:53] <subscious> Bashing-om: in recovery mode and nomodeset I could login to the gui. But not in normal boot. even when the login screen showed up it hung up after putting in login info. after doing the full-upgrade now it doesn't freeze but redirects me to the login screen
[03:54] <GunArm_> if I put custom flags on my kernel, and then do apt upgrade later and get a new kernel added, do the flags get copied into the grub config for the new kernel too?
[03:55] <Bashing-om> subscious: Manager is happy .. is X also happy ? .. does ' sudo lshw -C display ' depict the nvidia driver as loaded ?
[03:55] <subscious> the drivers appear yeah
[03:58] <Bashing-om> subscious: I run xfce and do not recall much, but is there a "quest" account available at the login screen ? Try the guest account to rule out a config issue in "your" account.
[04:00] <subscious> Bashing-om: There only shows my account
[04:01] <snowgoggles> Bashing-om:  subscious might have a sli config issue
[04:02] <Bashing-om> snowgoggles: Possible as this is hybrid ( optimus ) system . How to check for a sli issue ?
[04:03] <snowgoggles> Bashing-om: could try turning off sli just in case it auto config'd. let me look something up
[04:05] <fishcooker> i have 4 cards memory how to memtest it... should it be added one by one incrementally first slot then added to second slot till all memory slot filled up... or should we test it one by one?
[04:06] <snowgoggles> Bashing-om: have him try nvidia-xconfig --sli=off and reboot then attempt GUI login
[04:06] <snowgoggles> subscious: ^
[04:07] <subscious> sudo that command?
[04:07] <snowgoggles> yes
[04:07] <Bashing-om> snowgoggles: Learning :)
[04:07] <snowgoggles> Bashing-om: my nvidia fu is dated
[04:09] <subscious> it booted to login after that (might be lluck though) and now it froze after trying to login on gui
[04:09] <Bashing-om> snowgoggles: 18.04 install of Nvidia has a drastic changes - I am still trying to comprehend them from that of 16.04 :(
[04:09] <subscious> well wait. I could go to tty1 again seeing the login screen. But I have the interferences again now :/
[04:10] <snowgoggles> ouch
[04:10] <subscious> The interferences are probably a hardware issue and I can't afford to have it fixed
[04:10] <Bashing-om> subscious: Just to check and verify .. what is in the "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/11-nvidia-prime.conf" file ?
[04:11] <snowgoggles> subscious: what you mean by interference? scattered lines?
[04:12] <subscious> looks weird. as if all pixels are shifted in an area of the bottom (all the horizontal)
[04:13] <subscious> some other artifacs go through the whole screen as the bottom area shifts in size. but it always stays in something like the lower forth of the screen
[04:13] <subscious> I have access to a tty again
[04:14] <subscious> Any other suggestions? Or should I give up on linux and try installing windows again?
[04:15] <Bashing-om> subscious: what driver and libs are installed ' lsmod | grep nvidia ' ?
[04:17] <subscious> nvidia_uvm 0 nvidia_drm 1 nvidia_modeset 3 nvidia_drm ...
[04:17] <subscious> does that mean anything to you?
[04:18] <Bashing-om> SixStr: Pastebin the whole output - please ..
[04:19] <subscious> I do't remember how
[04:19] <Bashing-om> subscious: sorry Eickmeyer for that bad hilight :(
[04:20] <Bashing-om> subscious: ' lsmod | grep nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999 ' .
[04:21] <subscious> https://termbin.com/n6tw
[04:25] <Bashing-om> subscious: Hummm .. not what I had expect to see, I do not think .. I am not on a Nvidia install at this time to check .. but what now shows ' sudo lshw -C display | nc termbin.com 9999 ' ?
[04:26] <subscious> https://termbin.com/yfzr
[04:30] <Bashing-om> subscious: Again, looks good .. what driver installed ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999 ' ?
[04:31] <subscious> https://termmbin.com/ahdf
[04:33] <Bashing-om> subscious: I get connection refused on ^ . try again ?
[04:33] <subscious> https://termbin.com/ahdf
[04:33] <subscious> miswrote the url
[04:37] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-driver-410 bionic
[04:37] <Bashing-om> !info nvidia-driver-390 bionic
[04:40] <Bashing-om> subscious: Humm .. I "thought" 410 was availabale, 390 though should work. Another thought is wayland. what shows ' echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE  ' ? as Nvidia does not play nice with Wayland.
[04:44] <subscious> empty string
[04:45] <Bashing-om> subscious: Ouch ! " echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE >> x11" for me . Getting over my skill level now.
[04:50] <subscious> okay. I'm getting tired anyways. cya
[04:51] <Bashing-om> Sushi-san: I would like to know .. we can dontinue this at a later time .. perhaps too others here will have better guidance .
[04:54] <Sushi-san> what?
[04:56] <Bashing-om> Sushi-san: Sorry, me again not paying attention to my hilighting :(
[04:56] <Eickmeyer> Bashing-om: Two bad highlights in a row! XD :D
[04:57]  * Eickmeyer crawls back to Ubuntu Studio land...
[04:59] <Bashing-om> Eickmeyer: Reminds me to remain humble :P
[05:01] <Eickmeyer> Bashing-om: If I had a nickel for how many typos I had today assisting someone with uninstalling their proprietary AMD drivers after their failed attempt (tedious task involving installing every package that was installed prior to the fail), I'd have made about 20 cents. All that to say, I can relate. :)
[05:02] <Eickmeyer> *uninstalling every package
[05:02] <sys__op> ew AMD
[05:03] <sys__op> thats the cpu maker from the late 90's right?
[05:03] <Eickmeyer> sys__op: -_-
[05:03]  * Eickmeyer has AMD CPU and graphics
[05:11] <kantoi> wow
[05:41] <matthewdumler>  /join #haskell
[06:58] <nojjj> hello all i have installed brave (browser) on 18.04 and when i run brave from terminal the following shows up...should i be concerned-have i been hacked or program altered nefariously ?
[06:58] <nojjj> https://pastebin.com/CcfBuzNZ
[06:58] <nojjj> i am using the browser so that i dont get adds and that i am more secure online
[06:59] <lotuspsychje> nojjj: for the brave snap support, you need to contact the maintainer itself
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> nojjj: snap info brave, to see wich maintainer
[07:00] <nojjj> i shall and thanks but wondered if those msgs (terminal) were only showing up because of ;its a guess -me novice-app ammour
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> nojjj: normally snaps dont get compromized quickly, but never say never..
[07:01] <nojjj> app amour re ubuntu 18.04
[07:01] <nojjj> thank you
[07:03] <nojjj> i dont mean to be a pain but i installed the browser from ubuntu software centre-are snaps available from there-i thought you had to browse to a website like snapstore
[07:04] <nojjj> not that it makes a diff re contacting the soft dev team but im curious
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> nojjj: the ubuntu software, contains now both packages from apt repos and snaps from several maintainers
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> nojjj: the user itself chooses what software he likes/wants/installs
[07:05] <nojjj> thank you for helping me learn more
[07:06] <lotuspsychje> nojjj: the packages from apt you can use ubuntu-bug name, the snaps you need to bug to the right maintainer
[07:06] <nojjj> legend
[08:13] <pikia> what is the default audio manager for ubuntu 18?
[09:08] <madsj> I ran aa-logprof on mysqld, and now it seems to be misbehaving. Is there a way to get the original profile? By default, it's in enforce mode, but I changed it to complain-mode.
[09:17] <ramsub07> Hi, I have the path to my ssh key file saved in ssh_config and added host IP. SSH works fine when i try to access from the terminal, but when I try to access from Nautilus, it doesn't work and gives me an error
[09:17] <ramsub07> The error is "Don't have permission to access the requested location."
[10:08] <V7> Hey all
[10:08] <V7> How to recover mounting of home folder? 1. I remember mount password; 2. I might remember log in password, because: https://hastebin.com/roxoyutaxo.sql. So, as you could see, it shows such strange error: fopen: No such file or directory and, also, when running ecryptfs-mount-private without "sudo" - it fails. What could this be?
[10:11] <V7> Oh, I don't remember mount password actually, but, I remember login password, for sure
[10:58] <lotus|NUC> madsj: perhaps the #httpd guys might know that
[11:06] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:22] <madsj> lotus|NUC: not #mysql?
[11:22] <lotus|NUC> madsj: sure try also
[11:51] <tangorri> hi
[11:51] <tangorri> how can get x11 driver capabilities please (shaders, opengl etc) ?
[11:51] <lotus|NUC> welcome tangorri what can we do for you?
[11:52] <lotus|NUC> tangorri: whats your graphics card chipset and ubuntu version please?
[11:52] <tangorri> I use VM (hyperV) with x11 forwarding
[11:52] <lotus|NUC> oh, not my cup of cake :p
[11:53] <tangorri> if X11 forwarding, the drivers should be the X server one right (my local machine)
[11:53] <tangorri> ?
[12:12] <badr_> Hi
[12:12] <badr_>  how to creat more than 4 diskpatition on ubuntu?
[12:15] <badr_>  /join ubuntu-Brginners
[12:17] <stinkleg> I have a brand new sdcard (256gb, SDXC) which is spitting out alot of various I/O errors in syslog (mostly when writing). During long writes, the system automatically re-mounts the card as read-only and the transfer cancels.. I am running ddrescue on this card now, looking for write errors, and so far no errors (91GB done). Any tips? Is it truly a bad card, or something ubuntu specific?
[12:19] <stinkleg> note that read-only remounts may also happen during long reads from the card
[12:22] <stinkleg> i am on 16.04, kernel 4.15.0-43-generic, and tested the card with EXT-4 and exFat
[12:28] <BluesKaj> too many writes and sdcards begin fail much sooner than other storage devices
[12:29] <BluesKaj> to fail
[12:29] <elias_a> stinkleg: What does brand new mean in days?
[12:30] <stinkleg> elias_a: 1 day
[12:30] <stinkleg> now we are 122GB into the card and still no errors in ddrescue
[12:30] <elias_a> stinkleg: That's odd. Might be faulty card. Do other cards perform well in the same slot?
[12:33] <stinkleg> elias_a: I have not noticed any read/write errors or remounts on other cards
[12:35] <stinkleg> elias_a: though they are significantly smaller, and I typically move a few 100mb's around on them - on this card I am pushing around GB's, if that matters
[12:35] <elias_a> stinkleg: Looks like the card is simply broken.
[12:36] <elias_a> Take it back to the shop. :)
[12:37] <lesshaste> how can I save the annotations I have made with okular?
[12:42] <stinkleg> elias_a: yeah, I probably will.. annoying.
[12:56] <guiverc> lesshaste, i don't know, but a quick exploration of okular on this system has saved settings in ~/.kde.share/apps/okular/docdata/ for me on this box; I'd look there  (for me, it appears to have only saved info on how i last viewed specific files etc)
[12:56] <guiverc> ~/.kde/share/apps/...
[13:13] <visone> howdy
[13:14] <guiverc> howdy visone, if you have a Ubuntu Support question, please just ask it (ideally in a single line, and please be patient waiting for a response, people will respond when & if they can)
[13:14] <visone> guiverc: thanks¡
[13:14] <SwedeMike> I had problems with /boot being full. I then dpkg --purged a lot of kernels that were installed or half-installed. I then did install -f etc to get the latest kernel correctly installed. So now I'm in a situation where I have the running kernel package and the latest package installed. However, during apt-get dist-upgrade I now get lots of initrd.img-4.4.0-108-generic in /boot for kernels that are no
[13:15] <visone> anyone know how set de lenght of a bar in conky
[13:15] <SwedeMike> longer installed. I can remove these files but they might be recreated again later (8 MB files because the modules for that kernel isn't there anymore). Any ideas what file it might be looking into to decide what initramfs files to create?
[13:15] <SwedeMike> because I guess there must have been left over information in there that wasn't correctly removed
[13:17] <ioria> SwedeMike, ls  /var/lib/initramfs-tools
[13:17] <SwedeMike> ioria: great, thanks! that seems to be it.
[13:17] <ioria> ok
[13:24] <unimatrix9> hello all you good people
[13:25] <unimatrix9> is there an way to add download folder to the right klick dialog on ubuntu gnome desktop ?
[13:25] <unimatrix9> or to the dock on the left ?
[13:29] <unimatrix9> found the answer on ask ubuntu .. thanks for your time ;)
[13:29] <unimatrix9> https://askubuntu.com/questions/966740/how-do-i-pin-my-favorite-folders-in-ubuntu-dock-like-in-windows
[13:33] <visone> solved¡¡
[13:55] <Mibix> so i deleted an old windows partition i still had on my ubuntu installation drive and now it looks like this and i cant expand my ubuntu partition https://imgur.com/a/5y2HN9w if i just rsync the root to another drive, format two ext4 partitions, one like 500mb ext4 one for grub and the rest of the drive for my ubuntu installation, can i just rsync my root back to the ubuntu partition and then
[13:55] <Mibix> reinstall grub like this? https://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[13:55] <Mibix> im real scared to do this even though i took a clonezilla last night lol
[14:28] <solars> hey, are there any clipboard tools that allow more than one entry and are accessible via shortcuts/keybindings so I can select the entry I want?
[14:34] <kkspy_> Hello! How do I override capslock to be equal to alt+shift?
[14:43] <Zteam> Hi! I have a huge boot time, sometimes with Ubuntu 18.10 sometimes, boot time is over 10 minutes long, how can I find what's causing this, I already tried  systemd-analyze blame, systemd-analyze critical-chain, systemd-analyze time and dmesg | tail
[14:43] <pragmaticenigma> kkspy_: There are already shortcuts that makes use of the Alt + Shift + {key} ... I don't think you can override them
[14:44] <nekowaiidesu> Anyone able to advise on a data-recovery type issue? External hdd may be damaged, lights on the drive come on but I can't even see it in fdisk / gparted
[14:44] <Zteam> I suspect it's trimming the SSD, which is choosing this
[14:45] <nekowaiidesu> Is there any other way I can try to even initialize it? Or is it beyond recovery at this point?
[14:45] <TJ-> nekowaiidesu: how is the external device connected to the PC? eSATA, USB3, USB2 ?
[14:45] <nekowaiidesu> USB3
[14:45] <nekowaiidesu> USB2
[14:45] <Zteam> nekowaiidesu, does it show up in BIOS?
[14:45] <nekowaiidesu> Lemme check quickly. brb.
[14:46] <pragmaticenigma> Zteam: Them you are alraedy on the right track to findig your answer. you might also consider taking inventory of services setup to run on start
[14:47] <TJ-> Zteam: what did systemd-analyze show as the cause?
[14:48] <Zteam> TJ-, It only listed jobs which lasted at max 2 minutes
[14:48] <Zteam> pragmaticenigma, how do I do that?
[14:50] <TJ-> Zteam: what do you call the 'boot time' if it is long? Time until the greeter appears, or time from when entering password to when desktop is ready?
[14:50] <Zteam> TJ-, I also tried applied your workaround to get fstrim to work normally
[14:53] <TJ-> systemd will report on all units up until the default target is reached, which for desktop is graphical.target. So if systemd-analyze shows it reaching that in good time, then the issue isn't with 'boot' but something else
[14:54] <Zteam> TJ, this picture shows a little bit more, no desktop was loaded, https://imgur.com/a/5TLoHwv
[14:57] <Zteam> TJ-, also, I could use CTRL+ALT+F2 to get to another tty, and log in there, then it's launching the desktop almost immediately
[14:57] <nekowaiidesu> Zteam, rebooted. Stuck on the xubuntu screen. ended up hard restart. The faulty HDD shows in boot options, but PC froze when i tried getting into xubuntu again
[14:57] <nekowaiidesu> removed hdd and booted in fine.
[14:57] <TJ-> Zteam: OK, so it's taking some time for the 'ubuntu' VG to be discovered, would that be a good summary?
[14:58] <nekowaiidesu> Also on windows machine it detects the drive, but can't initialize it (i/O error) -- usually i get that on Windows with bad HDDs but was kinda surprised when it doesnt show at all on linux
[14:59] <TJ-> nekowaiidesu: can you try this: In a terminal do "dmesg -w" which will display and then wait for more kernel messages, then disconnect and reconnect the USB device and show us what is reported - I suspect you'll see multiple I/O errors trying to access the device
[14:59] <Zteam> TJ, well those messages, show up every boot, so I don't think that is the cause, the slow boot happens about once in a week
[15:00] <TJ-> nekowaiidesu: another suggestion - sometimes the USB<>ATA bridge chipsets fail (cheap ones tend to die of overheating) so try connecting the drive directly to a PC using SATA cables
[15:00] <Zteam> TJ, I be happy to provide logs to if that can help
[15:00] <TJ-> Zteam: when did it last happen (we might be able to grab the logs from that occurence)
[15:01] <Zteam> TJ-, today, :)
[15:01] <nekowaiidesu> TJ-, it's an external hdd - no SATA - unless you mean i should open the caddy
[15:01] <nekowaiidesu> well not caddy, but the actual plastic cover
[15:01] <TJ-> nekowaiidesu: that's precisely what I mean :)
[15:01] <nekowaiidesu> Ah, sure
[15:01] <TJ-> nekowaiidesu: that way you can prove if the issue is truly the drive or just the cheap USB chip
[15:02] <nekowaiidesu> dmesg is taking ages on "not responding"
[15:02] <nekowaiidesu> Good point TJ- I will remember that in future too, thanks.
[15:02] <TJ-> nekowaiidesu: I've had more than 5 of those die due to overheating, usually after I've been doing some sustained data transfers
[15:02] <nekowaiidesu> It's 5pm - work is finished. I'll continue this another day :) Thanks for the advice so far
[15:02] <nekowaiidesu> Have a good day/evening to all :)
[15:03] <Zteam> TJ, so what logs, would be useful here? :-)
[15:03] <TJ-> Zteam: did it happen during the current session or a previous boot attempt?
[15:03] <Zteam> TJ, current session :)
[15:05] <TJ-> Zteam: OK, that makes grabbing the log easier! Show us "pastebinit <( journalctl -b -p warning )"
[15:06] <TJ-> Zteam: as an aside, a useful option is "journalctl --list-boots" which helps identify what value to pass to with '-b' if you need to look at a previous boot
[15:06] <Zteam> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/m7GxcPGb49/
[15:07] <Zteam> TJ, interesting :)
[15:08] <TJ-> Zteam: Instantly I suspect a firmware bug, due to "ACPI BIOS Error (bug): Could not resolve [\_SB.PCI0.SAT0.PRT2._GTF.DSSP], AE_NOT_FOUND" -- I decode that as being South-Bridge>PCI Root Domain 0 > SATA controller 0 > SATA Port 2
[15:10] <TJ-> Zteam: there a re far too many warnings/errors there for my liking, across a wide range of programs too.
[15:10] <TJ-> Zteam: It looks like you should disable/mask the lircd service, or remove it entirely, too
[15:11] <Zteam> TJ, I already tried, http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html earlier by your recommendation, what do to now?
[15:12] <Zteam> TJ, also how do get rid of lircd ?
[15:14] <TJ-> Zteam: re: ACPI, using acpi_osi cannot fix all bugs. The messages we see proves the motherboard has a buggy firmware from the manufacturer. As the messages do relate to the SATA ports as well, it could be responsible for issues
[15:15] <TJ-> Zteam: If you don't need lircd you should be able to remove it "sudo apt purge lirc"
[15:17] <TJ-> Zteam: The message about ACPI tells me there are firmware Method _GTF() defined in the ACPI DSDT or SSDTs for the primary SATA controller ports, and they are incorrectly implemented.
[15:17] <Zteam> TJ, mainboard worked very happily with Ubuntu 18.04, should I ask Gigabyte to fix it
[15:17] <Zteam> or should I file a bug ticket?
[15:20] <TJ-> Zteam: the usual thing is to check for newer firmware releases from them, but right now we don't know if it is somehow related to the symptoms or not.
[15:21] <Zteam> TJ, BIOS is already updated to latest version, I could crawl back to Ubuntu 18.04 of course, but that would only help me temporarly
[15:21] <TJ-> Zteam: which release are you using, 18.10 ?
[15:21] <Zteam> TJ, yes 18.10 64-bit :)
[15:22] <TJ-> Zteam: OK - sometime my memory is worse than one of those brightly coloured fish... errr Goldfish!
[15:22] <Zteam> TJ, not sure if I'd told you either :)
[15:23] <TJ-> Zteam: right, lets try to extract the entire current boot log with timestamps but filter out all the lircd spam to make it readable. "pastebinit <( journalctl -b 0 | grep -v lircd )
[15:24] <LuiX> hi, I have a dual-boot Win10/Ubuntu 18.04 machine. I updated the kernel to 4.20 via UKUU and now I only get shown the GRUB prompt at startup. I can boot windows pressing the esc key and selecting the device. boot-repair didn't work. Heres the pastebin of boot-repair http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nCS7hshHpF/
[15:24] <Zteam> TJ, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/83hFnQCykx/
[15:25] <TJ-> Zteam: is this when the delay was?
[15:26] <TJ-> jan 11 14:47:13 steelhead anacron[1141]: Job `cron.daily' terminated
[15:26] <TJ-> jan 11 14:55:19 steelhead systemd[1]: Starting Cleanup of Temporary Directories...
[15:26] <TJ-> Note the timestamp difference
[15:28] <TJ-> Zteam: also, just above those lines note: "systemd[1]: Startup finished in 18.525s (firmware) + 5.049s (loader) + 2min 8.739s (kernel) + 1min 42.659s (userspace) = 4min 14.973s."
[15:28] <Zteam> TJ, seems to be part of it, but the delay lasted until 15:28
[15:30] <TJ-> Zteam: That timespan implicates cron/anacron and systemd-tmpfiles
[15:31] <TJ-> Zteam: First I'd recommend checking all the cron/anacron tasks you've got, especially any you've added yourself
[15:33] <TJ-> Zteam: try for starters "journalctl -u cron.service" and "journalctl -u anacron.service"
[15:33] <ogra> TJ-, Zteam https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+bug/1768230 ?
[15:35] <Zteam> TJ, the one thing I do know is this: @weekly         60      fstrim.cron     /bin/bash/ fstrim / (in /etc/anacrontab  , the idea was to move fstrim to a cronjob, since it made boot time so huge, I later re enabled fstrim at boottime
[15:35] <TJ-> ogra: that's an expected message (failed to connect to lvmetad) in initialramfs because the lvmetad isn't started until systemd starts
[15:35] <TJ-> Zteam: yes, you've had a suspicion it was that all along, so was it triggered today, do the logs show?
[15:36] <TJ-> Zteam: if it is then presumably there's something with the SSD itself that is causing the long delay, so it'd then be worth investigating the SSD make/model thoroughly for indications this is a known issue
[15:38] <TJ-> ogra: the delay Zteam is getting isn't the 30-seconds of that bug, but 10s of minutes after systemd has started the system
[15:38] <ogra> ah, k
[15:41] <Zteam> TJ, I googled for Kingston V300 ubuntu slow boot (and similair phrases, I didn't find anything, I also run both benchmarks, and health control of the drive, from Ubuntu, no issues found.
[15:42] <TJ-> Zteam: I wonder if it is related to those ACPI Methods. Let me see if I can find out what they're supposed to do
[15:43] <ducasse> Zteam: fwiw i have a few of those drives and haven't had any issues
[15:45] <Zteam> TJ. hmmm althought there seems to be a firmware update available for the SSD, I wonder if I should try that? https://www.kingston.com/us/support/technical/downloads/90683
[15:46] <Zteam> ducasse, does your model match this?
[15:46] <Zteam> KINGSTON SV300S37A120G (506ABBF0)
[15:47] <Zteam> TJ, from what I understand I have earlier firmware
[15:50] <ducasse> Zteam: SV300S37A120G, yes, two are 506ABBF0 and one is 603ABBF0. the others aren't installed and powered-on atm
[15:51] <Zteam> ducasse, are you running Ubuntu 18.10 too?
[15:51] <ducasse> one is running 18.04, the other is running 18.10
[15:52] <fkl> Once upon a time in Ubuntu multi-monitor setup was (can be) configured using /etc/X11/xorg.conf; and later it was configured through ~/.config/monitors.xml (this is the case in 14.10 -- my last version until I upgraded to 18.10)
[15:53] <fkl> It looks like neither /etc/X11/xorg.conf nor ~/.config/monitors.xml is used.
[15:54] <fkl> How can I configure my multi-monitor setup in 18.10?
[15:54] <genii> !xorg.conf
[15:54] <Zteam> ducasse, you don't happen to run 506ABBF0, on the machine with 18.10, do you? :)
[15:54] <TJ-> Zteam: I found this and thought I had a match until I read the 2nd UPDATE and laughed! https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/463241/fedora-28-boot-stalls-for-approximately-15-mins-before-loading-into-desktop/467881
[15:55] <ducasse> Zteam: one of them is 18.10, yes :)
[15:55] <jmgb4> Curious when ubuntu is going to upgrade to ffmpeg 4+
[15:56] <ducasse> fkl: have you tried using xrandr, or arandr if you want a gui?
[15:56] <fkl> okay, what about ~/.config/monitors.xml ?   and where should I be doing my multi-monitor setup?
[15:57] <fkl> ducasse: I have not; but xrandr is what I use to configure multi-monitor setup in my Arch installation./
[15:58] <InvisibleRasta> guys i launched something in my MATE De and now i have some numbers showing next to the clock applet in the panel... its not clickable and i cant figure out how to close it https://i.imgur.com/wEFkQON.png
[15:59] <Zteam> ducasse, would be very interesting too, see what happens, if you run sudo fstrim / (assuming this is the root of that drive), because my system was working perfectly on 18.04 but, on 18.10 it's taking forever to do fstrim
[15:59] <fkl> I don't know how things are done in Ubuntu nowadays, and don't want to TIAS b/c I am afraid it might break things b/c I have no time to troubleshoot if something goes wrong.
[15:59] <Zteam> TJ, do you this update could resolve my issue? http://media.kingston.com/support/downloads/60AABBF0_V3_RN_052816.pdf
[15:59] <ducasse> Zteam: how long is 'forever'?
[16:00] <badr_> Hi,I want to create a boot partition and I already have 4 partition https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootPartition
[16:00] <fkl> IMO, ~/.config/monitors.xml was handy-dandy; what happened to it?
[16:00] <Zteam> ducasse, in my case over 10 minutes
[16:01] <badr_> how i can do that?
[16:01] <ducasse> fkl: changes made with xrandr are not permanent, you can just reboot if it messes something up. i believe monitors.xml is a unity thing
[16:01] <jmgb4> Anybody know about ffmpeg 3.4.4 on ubuntu? Tons of cve's coming out for it... Looks like its strongly recommended not to upgrade if you follow the directions on the ffmpeg site which directs you to a ubuntu ppa
[16:02] <ducasse> Zteam: i've not seen that, no
[16:02] <ducasse> Zteam: you could try upgrading the firmware?
[16:02] <TJ-> Zteam: "Fixed case where drive will temporarily become unreadable" sounds close
[16:03] <Zteam> ducasse, yes, I think I need to that, thanks god I got a liveUSB with Windows 10 available
[16:04] <Zteam> TJ, that's what I thought too, wounder how risky it is to update that firmware throught?
[16:04] <fkl> ducasse: btw, nviding-settings can also do the job but since xorg.conf is no longer used changes aren't permanent.
[16:05] <fkl> nvidia*
[16:07] <ducasse> fkl: you can try putting it in a .conf snippet in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d, but i'd just use xrandr
[16:08] <Zteam> fkl, montiors.xml is created by gnome screen settings (or whatever it's called _:)
[16:10] <fkl> ducasse: I am perfectly okay using xrandr; so Ubuntu will read ~/.xinitrc, correct?
[16:11] <ducasse> fkl: ~/.xsessionrc if you use a dm
[16:11] <fkl> I have a 3-monitor setup configured using:
[16:11] <fkl> xrandr --output HDMI-0 --rotate left --output DP-0 --rotate right --output HDMI-0 --left-of DVI-I-1 --output DP-0 --right-of DVI-I-1
[16:12] <fkl> ducasse: great! that sounds promising; I'll TIAS.
[16:17] <gunix> what is the "ppa name" of this ppa? https://launchpad.net/~paskal-07/+archive/ubuntu/softethervpn/+packages
[16:17] <gunix> i am trying to add it with add-apt-repository ppa:softether-vpn"
[16:17] <gunix> but that doesn't work
[16:19] <adrian_1908> gunix: ppa:paskal-07/softethervpn ? (note the paskal-07)
[16:19] <Zteam> TJ, thanks for your help I try with updating BIOS
[16:19] <Zteam> TJ, umm... I mean... SSD firmware... :P
[16:21] <gunix> adrian_1908: yea, in the end i figured that out.
[16:22] <ducasse> gunix: it should also say how to add it near the top of the page
[16:23] <gunix> ducasse: i didn't see any sort of indication
[16:24] <adrian_1908> https://launchpad.net/~paskal-07/+archive/ubuntu/softethervpn/ --> "Adding this PPA to your system"
[16:24] <adrian_1908> you were one sub-directory too low.
[16:24] <ducasse> gunix: ^^
[16:24] <stevenm> if the DVI port of your onboard gpu (a motherboard with G41/X4500 graphics, both a VGA and DVI port) is simply not being acknowledged as EVEN EXISTING by any logs and/or xrandr - what's the next step?
[16:35] <TJ-> stevenm: We've seen that happen due to ACPI bugs in the firmware, and we've also seen it fixed using an acpi_osi= kernel command-line entry
[16:35] <TJ-> stevenm: I've written up on how to apply the workaround: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[16:38] <badr_>  Hi,I want to create a boot partition and I already have 4 partition https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootPartition ,how i can do that?
[16:42] <teward> badr_: is your computer formatted as MBR?
[16:42] <teward> and not GPT?
[16:45] <stevenm> TJ-, nvm it's this ... http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/265741-30-intel-chipset-limitation-video-post-pcie-slot
[16:45] <stevenm> apparently on this intel chipset - if *anything* (in my case a PCI-E x4 NIC with 4 gigabit ports) is plugged into the PCI-E x16 slot - - then you *only* get VGA working and not DVI as well
[16:46] <stevenm> i just tested it - the moment I take that NIC out - bang, even the bios/post shows on both monitors
[16:46] <stevenm> totally bizarre-o
[16:46] <badr_> teward:  MBR: MBR only
[16:47] <stevenm> anyway home time
[16:47] <stevenm> bye for now
[16:47] <TJ-> stevenm: ahhh, makes sense, there's a firmware 'node' used to choose the boot video device, and a PEG (PCIe Graphics) over-rides it
[16:48] <teward> badr_: then if you already have 4 partitions you can't.
[16:48] <teward> badr_: that said, seeing what you're seeing in `gparted` would be nice as a start, if you're full up on partitions though you can't add a new one without deleting another partition, so depending on the layout of the existing drives...
[16:48] <teward> you might not be able ot
[16:53] <badr_> teward; ok thanks
[17:01] <EriC^^> badr_: why do you want a boot partition?
[17:01] <Sven_vB> how do I configure which filename patterns eslint will scan by default?
[17:02] <Sven_vB> sorry wrong channel
[17:02] <badr_> Eric^^: for open my ubuntu
[17:02] <EriC^^> badr_: are you the same badr that was here before?
[17:03] <badr_> Eric^^:yes
[17:03] <EriC^^> badr_: didn't your pc boot before at least to grub? you had mentioned you get a unable to mount rootfs error on block
[17:06] <badr_> Eric^^:if i run my ubunte it give me that https://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1547225480.jpg
[17:07] <EriC^^> badr_: ok, do you see a grub screen before you choose "Ubuntu" option usually?
[17:08] <badr_> Eric^^:yes i see
[17:08] <EriC^^> badr_: ok, go to "Advanced" then after choosing it it will list many Ubuntu options, choose the one with..
[17:09] <EriC^^> do you happen to have your old boot-repair log?
[17:09] <badr_> Eric^^:yes i have
[17:10] <EriC^^> ok, please paste the link
[17:13] <badr_> Eric^^:http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/V4VdDRJ5z7/
[17:14] <EriC^^> badr_: ok, after you press Advanced, choose the Ubuntu 4.15.0-42-generic
[17:15] <EriC^^> it should boot without an error, then come back here to fix
[17:16] <HaMsTeRs> what is he trying to do?
[17:17] <fkl> ducasse, Ubuntu 18.04 doesn't seem to be reading ~/.xsessionrc
[17:17] <niee> hi folks. anyone to help me please? my ubuntu not boot. i see this "error cpu pipe a fifo underrun"
[17:17] <fkl> I mean 18.10
[17:18] <ducasse> fkl: which dm are you using?
[17:18] <fkl> ducasse, whichever one Ubuntu ships by default.  This is a fresh installation
[17:19] <ducasse> fkl: try with lightdm, i think gdm is default
[17:20] <ioria> fkl, xinitrc and xsessionrc are useful if you don't have a login manager (gdm and company)... why ,if you are on a standard install you want .xessionrc ?
[17:20] <fkl> ioria, bc it was a suggested solution for configuring multi-monitor
[17:20] <ducasse> ioria: a dm should source .xsessionrc
[17:21] <fkl> ducasse, how do I change dm?
[17:22] <ioria> fkl, already tried arandr ?
[17:22] <ioria> ducasse, probably, but why ?
[17:23] <ducasse> ioria: sourcing startup scripts and commands in a wm-independent way, for example
[17:23] <ioria> ok
[17:23] <badr_> Eric^^:ok
[17:24] <fkl> ducasse, how can I change my dm?
[17:24] <badr_> ioria; i write lol but i copyed the without read him
[17:24] <ducasse> fkl: just install it, and you should be prompted which one to use. you could also set an xrandr script as a startup app if you use gnome
[17:27] <badr_> copyed the command
[17:30] <daum> hi all i'm having trouble updating my limits.conf on ubuntu 18, i've edited the /etc/security/limits.conf as well as the /etc/systemd/system.conf and user.conf per https://superuser.com/questions/1200539/cannot-increase-open-file-limit-past-4096-ubuntu/1200818#_=_ but still no luck
[17:38] <fkl> ioria, I just tried arandr, but these Screen Layout scripts (basically xrandr command) aren't loaded on startup
[17:39] <fkl> ioria, I already had a working xrandr command that I've been using.  so arandr doesn't really offer much.
[17:40] <ducasse> fkl: as i said above, you can add them as startup apps in gnome. if you use a wm instead most can launch things from their config files
[17:40] <ioria> fkl, so you basically want some scripts executed before the gdm screen ?
[17:43] <fkl> ducasse, How can I add them as startup apps?  (I'll install lightdm only after I can't figure out how to add the script as Startup apps b/c I want to keep the system as close to vanilla as possible to avoid open more can of worms)
[17:44] <fkl> s/open/opening/
[17:44] <ioria> fkl, just press the win key, and type  'startup' ,then Add
[17:48] <fkl> ioria, ducasse okay, that did it.  The changes are permanent.
[17:48] <fkl> Thanks!
[17:48] <bleb> i'm trying to measure the total bandwidth usage for a website (upload and download) over a period of time, anyone know how i'd do that?
[17:48] <bleb> either from within firefox or by measuring the usage of the firefox process
[17:49] <pragmaticenigma> bleb: This is the correct channel for that type of question. Support here focuses on Ubuntu OS. Software recommendations or other topics should be done in #ubuntu-offtopic. Or use !alis to search for a more appropriate channel
[17:49] <pragmaticenigma> bleb: *This isn't the correct channel
[17:53] <fkl> imo, an user should not need to go through these steps to get multi-monitor setup.   In my case, it wasn't too tough for me b/c I already have knowledge of what commands to use and what my managers/systems are at play.  I'd imagine it'd be frustrating for a new Linux user.  It can/shoudl be easier than  this.  Where the Ubuntu experience at? lol
[17:54] <pragmaticenigma> fkl: You likely have an edge case situation. I have several machines with multi monitor and have expirenced no issues install fresh or upgrading them and continuing to use all monitors attached
[18:24] <Dbugger> Would it be possible to use a VPN only when accessing certain URLs?
[18:25] <matsaman> sure
[18:25] <matsaman> there're browser extensions for that, even
[18:25] <sys__op> its not a function of VPN, no.
[18:26] <sys__op> but you can programatically do it.
[18:26] <pragmaticenigma> Dbugger: That would be a question better asked in #networking
[18:26] <sys__op> in order to do something like that you would need stateful packet inspection and a decent appliance/stack/subnet
[18:26] <Dbugger> it is not really something I want for the server
[18:27] <Dbugger> To do home office, I need to use a VPN, but when I am connected to the VPN my whole internet stops working, except for the URLs from my office
[18:27] <Dbugger> it is quite annoying, since I have to switch on and off constantly the whole day
[18:27] <pragmaticenigma> Dbugger: Again, this is a topic for ##networking
[18:28] <Dbugger> pragmaticenigma, will do
[18:28] <pragmaticenigma> please take your question there
[18:28] <pragmaticenigma> thanks
[18:33] <Soopaman> greetings all
[18:33] <Soopaman> I remember there used to be a rack and region method to managing private clouds
[18:34] <Soopaman> is it still the case?
[18:35] <TJ-> Soopaman: I think you need the #maas channel?
[18:39] <Soopaman> thanks TJ-
[18:48] <adam_vollrath> Should I be concerned that the SquashFS file and its GPG signature within ubuntu-<IP_ADDRESS>-live-server-amd64.iso doesn't match the md5sum.txt?
[18:48] <sys__op> meh
[18:49] <sys__op> the government has your back.
[18:49] <sys__op> and your front.
[18:49] <sys__op> and all sides + your children and banks.
[18:49] <sys__op> so no big deal.
[18:50] <sys__op> not like you figured out nuclear fision or anything.
[18:50] <coz_> sys__op, what the heck?  no one to play with?
[18:50] <pragmaticenigma> sys__op: Please stay on topic and keep personal commentary to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:50] <sys__op> yeah sorry.
[18:50] <sys__op> iz so lonely and sorries
[18:51] <sys__op> question, i have a Node 10 app on Ubuntu 14 (yes I know), but is there a way to assign CPU's i guess to the app?
[18:51] <pragmaticenigma> adam_vollrath: I believe I've seen a prior question to the same effect and it is known to be wrong. Does the check sum of the actual image match?
[18:51] <sys__op> its just a bot, but it seems to not want to use the 8 cores available, is that a node.js thing?
[18:52] <lordcirth> Why does the 'cron' package in 16.04 install both /etc/init.d/cron and cron.service? /etc/init.d/cron keeps trying to start 'nscd' even though we use 'sssd' instead
[18:53] <pragmaticenigma> sys__op: perhaps ask that in the node channel?
[18:53] <sys__op> yeah. thanks.
[18:54] <adam_vollrath> pragmaticenigma: yes the .iso checksum matches.
[18:54] <pragmaticenigma> adam_vollrath: I think you are fine then
[18:54] <adam_vollrath> What I'm really troubleshooting is the server installer gets stuck in a crashloop. How can I troubleshoot the installer?
[18:55] <OerHeks> https://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity/+bug/1810633
[18:55] <adam_vollrath> I'm trying to install to an Intel NUC 7
[18:55] <OerHeks> see comments TJ
[18:56] <OerHeks> "won't fix"  and wait for .2 release
[18:56] <adam_vollrath> ok that's fine. how do I troubleshoot the installer crash loop?
[18:57] <OerHeks> soft fix: use the 18.04 live iso?
[18:57] <OerHeks> and update
[18:57] <pragmaticenigma> adam_vollrath: There really isn't a way to troubleshoot the installer... If you're installing additional packages during the main install, try not doing that and see if it installs. For me personally, I download the mini.iso and install from there which fetches pacakges from the repo as it installs, ensuring that I get the latest and any configuration stuff has also been corrected for the install
[18:58] <adam_vollrath> it crashes at the first language selection screen, then immediately restarts. this continues indefinitely.
[18:58] <adam_vollrath> is there a more mini iso than the server iso?
[19:00] <TJ-> adam_vollrath: is the hardware very recent?
[19:00] <coz_> adam_vollrath, yes I believe so
[19:00] <adam_vollrath> Intel NUC 7 so a couple years
[19:05] <TJ-> adam_vollrath: hmm, does the crash happen before you've had chance to interact with the language chooser, or after?
[19:05] <adam_vollrath> before
[19:05] <MagicCheese3755> I was trying to connect to an ssh server with the wrong username and couldn't get out of the enter password p
[19:06] <adam_vollrath> i can do things but it still crashes after a few seconds
[19:06] <oich> I am in a hotel using Ubuntu 18.10. I am using wifi and have connected an ethernet cable to another computer using Windows and I've configured the ethernet device to be "shared to other computers" in nm-connection-editor terminology. On the windows machine, Linux subsytem works and can resolve DNS names, but windows itself cannot. Do you have any idea why htat would be, or how to fix it?
[19:06] <TJ-> adam_vollrath: all I can think of right now is to try the 18.10 desktop installer, just to try to identify if this is an installer, or a hardware, triggered issue
[19:07] <adam_vollrath> desktop installer seems to work
[19:07] <TJ-> adam_vollrath: so this could be something to so with the subiquity server-installer itself
[19:07] <adam_vollrath> yes
[19:08] <MagicCheese3755> I was trying to connect to an ssh server with the wrong username and coulnt get of the enter password promt, I just kept entering random stuff until I got out. Now when I try to reconnect with the correct username I get the error:  "ssh: connect to host host.name port 22: Connection refused". Is this a problem on the servers end or something I am doing wrong? Did entering the wrong pasword for the
[19:08] <MagicCheese3755> wrong user get me banned?
[19:09] <OerHeks> MagicCheese3755, could well be, or banned, or time banned
[19:09] <matsaman> CTRL+c next time, or abandon the shell entirely
[19:11] <lordcirth> MagicCheese3755, many servers run something like fail2ban, try again in a minute/hour/day
[19:11] <lordcirth> And yeah, Ctrl-C is the proper way to abort
[19:11] <adam_vollrath> can I use the Desktop installer in some other minimal way?
[19:11] <MagicCheese3755> works now, was probably some thing like lordcirth was talking about, thanks
[19:12] <tomreyn> oich: local dns caches in hotels arenot rarely overloaded. consider setting fixed public servers such as <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[19:12] <pragmaticenigma> MagicCheese3755: It sounds like the admin of the SSH server blocks after a certain number of attempted logins. You should be contacting the admin of the server, not us.
[19:12] <ioria> adam_vollrath, i guess so, but never tried
[19:13] <ioria> adam_vollrath, https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Ubuntu-18.04-Minimal-Desktop
[19:14] <adam_vollrath> where's this Ubuntu "minimal" spin?
[19:14] <TJ-> adam_vollrath: I don't see any existing bug reports that match your issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/subiquity
[19:14] <adam_vollrath> does subiquity not log or output any troubleshooting info?
[19:15] <ioria> adam_vollrath, i think he mean the 'mini.iso'
[19:15] <ioria> *s
[19:16] <adam_vollrath> yes where's the mini.iso
[19:16] <ioria> !minimal
[19:16] <oich> tomreyn: I've tried setting the nameserver to the ip address that is discovered automatically and it's the same result, works in WSL (Linux subsystem on the windows machine) but not in normal windows
[19:17] <tomreyn> oich: then it really seems like a windows issue to me, try asking in ##windows ?
[19:18] <adam_vollrath> thanks ioria I'll try that now
[19:18] <ioria> adam_vollrath, ok
[19:20] <compdoc> oich, is anything different in the ip settings that WSL sees, and what windows sees?
[19:25] <oich> compdoc not that I can see. The ethernet device has the same ip address and net mask based on ipconfig on windows and ifconfig on WSL
[19:25] <compdoc> what about the gateway address?
[19:46] <oich> compdoc same gateway address
[19:47] <oich> compdoc also nslookup on windows resolves names
[19:49] <compdoc> I dont know enough about WSL. do they normally work together when youre home?
[19:50] <oich> compodoc yes
[19:52] <powerninja> hello, I try running  "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y" and hoping it won't prompt me, but looks like grub package requires user interaction?
[19:52] <compdoc> in windows, what are you doing that isnt working? just browsing?
[19:53] <powerninja> I guess, it's best to keep the local version currently installed, since I'm running on AWS?
[19:53] <powerninja> is there an sudo "apt-get upgrade -y --exclude-package grub" option?
[19:58] <rfm> powerninja, maybe "apt-mark hold grub" is what you want?
[19:58] <powerninja> hi rfm, yeah I saw sudo apt-mark hold package_name
[19:59] <powerninja> so I'll do that before running  "apt-get upgrade -y " thanks
[20:16] <Nexilva> Hello, my Ubuntu 18.04 is taking 17 out of 25 gb on /. How can I free up some space?
[20:18] <OerHeks> Nexilva, sudo apt autoremove # to delete some unused kernels https://itsfoss.com/free-up-space-ubuntu-linux/
[20:18] <lordcirth> Nexilva, apt install ncdu; ncdu / -x
[20:19] <Nexilva> k
[20:21] <avih> high, i'd appreciate help in debugging a dependency issue started with 18.04 LTS (the system started as 14.04 LTS). when trying to install npm i get an error "The following packages have unmet dependencies: [\n] npm : Depends: node-gyp (>= 0.10.9) but it is not going to be installed [\n] E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages". nodejs installs fine. it seems that others having the same exact issue, but i couldn't find a solution. trying
[20:21] <avih> the same "sudo apt install npm" with 18.04.1 LTS live DVD does work fine (universe enabled). i generally try to keey the system tidy, but lots of stuff did get installed over the years. I tried aptitude and its solutions all appear to be doing thing i'd prefer not to do ("hold" packages, etc). how should i go about finding out exactly what's causing it?
[20:22] <avih> preferably i'll find some packages installed sometime from $someplace which i'll just remove, and then it's hopefully fixed
[20:25] <avih> i don't _think_ i have extra PPAs. "software and updates" shows main/universe/multiverse enabled, and "other software" has everything unchecked.
[20:25] <avih> npm did install and update ok with 16.04 before the upgrade
[20:29] <ioria> avih, not good
[20:29] <avih> all the "standard" suggested solution, like cleaning up the packages storage autoremove etc did not seem to help. all updates and installs work fine, except npm which always gives this error (i did uninstall it during the attempts, and now it doesn't install)
[20:29] <avih> ioria: ?
[20:30] <AndroUser> Hi
[20:30] <ioria> avih, already tried the aptitude solution ?
[20:30] <avih> ioria: it suggested 4 solutions. as i said, all of them seem to be of the "bad" kind, like holding packages etc
[20:31] <avih> i don't want any help package. i want to find what's causing it and clean it up.
[20:31] <avih> held*
[20:31] <AndroUser> Eric^^:are you here?
[20:32] <avih> ioria: if you search this error with node-gyp you'll see many others are having the exact same issues. i haven't seen a solution which others (or me) could confirm to work.
[20:32] <ioria> avih, can you try the #6   in here : https://askubuntu.com/questions/899756/cant-install-npm-unable-to-correct-problems-you-have-held-broken-packages?rq=1
[20:33] <avih> ioria: you mean the last one with score of 6?
[20:33] <ioria> avih, yep
[20:34] <tomreyn> avih: can you run this? sudo /bin/true; pastebinit <( lsb_release -ds; cat /proc/version; cat /proc/cmdline; dmesg -t | grep '^DMI:';echo '*****'; sudo apt-get update 2>&1; echo '*****'; sudo apt-get -f install 2>&1; echo '*****'; apt-cache policy 2>&1; )
[20:35] <ioria> tomreyn, i'am afraid the pkg is really broken
[20:35] <avih> ioria: when i try to install the first, it says: "The following packages will be REMOVED:  libcurl4-openssl-dev libssl-dev". it _seems_ to me to want to uninstall new version of libssl-dev and install an older one. is it not?
[20:35] <tomreyn> ioria: which one exactly?
[20:35] <ioria> tomreyn, npm
[20:35] <tomreyn> ioria: in ubuntu proper?
[20:36] <ioria> tomreyn, i guess so
[20:36] <avih> tomreyn: why the sudo bin true? just to prompt for sudo password?
[20:36] <ioria> tomreyn, if you are on 18.04 ... try apt -s installnpm
[20:36] <AndroUser> Eric^^:ïm badr_
[20:36] <ioria> tomreyn, apt -s install npm
[20:37] <tomreyn> oh wow
[20:37] <ioria> avih, yes
[20:39] <tomreyn> avih: yes, just for the password. but you can skip my commands, this was me assuming this was a local issue on your system
[20:39] <avih> tomreyn: https://0x0.st/s7vO.txt
[20:40] <tomreyn> avih: thanks anyways.
[20:40] <avih> it is local, but it also happens to others. as i said, i did try out 16.04.1 live dvd and it installed just fine.
[20:40] <avih> 18.04.01 *
[20:40] <avih> (npm installed fine with the live DVD)
[20:40] <tomreyn> avih: it is a generic issue, the package dependencies in ubuntu 18.04 are currently broken.
[20:41] <avih> tomreyn: thanks. do you have a link to a bug which acknowledges this issue?
[20:41] <ioria> avih, the fix is confirmed here : https://askubuntu.com/questions/1088662/npm-depends-node-gyp-0-10-9-but-it-is-not-going-to-be-installed
[20:41] <tomreyn> this is in the universe repository, so a community maintained package, but a package breaking by depednencies in LTS is still a rare event.
[20:42] <tomreyn> avih: haven'T looked for bug reports, yet, but both ioria and i can confirm that we see the same depednenciy issues as you do.
[20:42] <avih> ioria: as soon as i try to install libssl1.0-dev, it wants to remove libssl-dev. isn't it downgrading? and what if i have otehr packages which do depend no later-than-1.0 libssl?
[20:43] <ioria> avih, i hear you
[20:44] <avih> if it's an upstream system and not a collision specific to my system then i can live without npm till it's fixed upstream. it's not worth the workaround for me. but if it's some unique issue with my system - that is a thing i'd like to solve. but i don't know which one is it
[20:44] <avih> upstream issue*
[20:44] <ioria> avih, it's not your sys
[20:45] <avih> do you think there's a bug for this? i could find similar ones but older than 18.04. didn't find one for 18.04
[20:45] <tomreyn> avih: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/npm/+bug/1809828
[20:46] <ioria> avih, ^^
[20:46] <avih> yeah, reading it. thanks. the last message is a bit weird. after installing it with libssl1.0 and then purging everything, it seems to install without libssl1.0 specific things.
[20:47] <avih> however, i have many dev packages and projects on this system. i really don't want to start dependency-uninstall stuff just for this.
[20:48] <ioria> as i said, not good
[20:49] <avih> well. i can live without npm for now. i'll hope something upstream is able to fix it.
[20:50] <avih> ioria: tomreyn: thanks for your time and help
[20:50] <grendelson> I upgraded Ubuntu 16 -> 18.04 on an HP laptop.  Now whenever I undock the laptop the mouse works and accepts input - but the keyboard doesn't - all keyboard input is ignored.   I have to choose SLEEP with the mouse, then wak up with the power button and upon reawakening the keybaord works fine.
[20:50] <ioria> avih, no prob
[20:50] <grendelson> I'm assuming it has to do with the dock using an external keyboard and htis change not being recgnized when I undock - any potential fixes?
[20:50] <grendelson> or ways to deal with a constantly docking and undocking laptop?
[20:53] <avih> ioria: however, to avoid getting sued for heart attacks, in the future you can replace "not good" with "great", or "very good!", and then continue with exactly the same diagnostics/help as before ;)
[20:53] <ioria> avih, ok :þ
[20:53] <avih> :)
[20:55] <tomreyn> avih: i just updated the bug report
[20:55] <raub> Have a disk image os a OSX drive created using dd. fdisk -l thinks it has 512 byte sectors. Can I trust it?
[20:55] <tomreyn> please consider adding your findings to it, marking it as affecting you and subscribing to the bug report
[20:56] <avih> tomreyn: oh, you have a 18.04 system which reproduces this issue?
[20:56] <tomreyn> avih: for the record, we ususually use the term "upstream" for software that is not originally packaged in ubuntu but synched from debian
[20:57] <tomreyn> avih: yes, both ioria and i seemed to be able to reproduce the issue.
[20:58] <avih> all right. glad(for me)/sad(for you) to hear :) thanks. i don't know if i'll subscribe but i'll definitely bookmark and read it once in a while. much appreciated
[20:58] <tomreyn> avih: i don't use npm so it's not an actual issue for me. but i'm also affected in that i am also unable to install the package in this way.
[20:59] <avih> right
[21:01] <tomreyn> avih: comment #3 of the bug report seems to contain a workaround (have not tried)
[21:01] <avih> yeah, i said earlier it sounds weird..
[21:03] <avih> tomreyn: instead of "upstream", what's the term for getting fixed at the ubuntu side rather than the user's?
[21:04] <tomreyn> avih: "a (ubuntu) bug", i'd say
[21:04] <avih> yeah. agreed it's better :)
[21:06] <tomreyn> avih: if you suspect you may have dependency issues aside of this one (which isn't specific to your system, so it has to be expected), are are a couple tools you can use to find out about them. let me know if you'd like more info on this.
[21:08] <avih> tomreyn: i did try aptitude. i liked that it was able to suggest those things, i just didn't like the suggestions themselves ;) out of curiosity, is likely that a solution would be to update node-gyp (or one of its deps?) to need libssl-dev rather than libssl1.0-dev? (i'm a developer and can build things, but packages were never my thing...)
[21:13] <avih> (and i haven't noticed other dependency issues other than this. and i do install/remove packages regularly)
[21:15] <tomreyn> avih: if installing dependencies of a package first, then this package you actually wants succeeds, but directly installing the package you want doesn't succeed, it means that the dependencies set on one of the packages the main package depends on (or the main package itself) are not correctly set.
[21:15] <tomreyn> this would seem to be the case here, but i have not spent time on figuring out what exactly is wrong.
[21:16] <avih> yeah. no worries. thanks again. i go get it in general, was just curious what the actual issue might be. cheers :)
[21:16] <avih> do*
[21:18] <tomreyn> avih: if you would like to look into this more, you can check the dependencies and recommends of the npm package (both dependency packages and their versions) and all of those dependencies and you should be able to identify the package which has incorrect dependencies set.
[21:19] <tomreyn> "apt-cache policy <packagename>" should help there, as well as "apt-cache depends"
[21:19] <avih> hmm.. this sounds like automating this procedure is really possible
[21:19] <tomreyn> i bet package maintainers have better way to identify such issues, i'm just another user
[21:19] <avih> isn't there some apt util which can pinpoint such dependency problems?
[21:20] <avih> right. same :)
[21:21] <avih> it's the first time i used aptitude, but it's possible its suggestions were not great because it's some ubuntu packages bug. would be interesting to see it it suggests to remove some stale PPA in order to fix similar issues
[21:21] <avih> if*
[21:39] <tomreyn> avih: neither apt nor aptitude will ever recommend removing a PPA or any package source. they take any apt sources as a given, only considing their and apt !pinning priorities.
[21:40] <avih> tomreyn: it's a shame. if my issue was some PPA + package i added and long forgotten of, i'd gladly take a suggestion to remove it.
[21:42] <tomreyn> avih: deborphan may by of use there, as well as ubuntu-support-status, and finally https://github.com/tomreyn/scripts#foreign_packages
[21:42] <Nexilva> I used a bleached bit
[21:42] <Nexilva> I got 1.3gb free!
[21:42] <Nexilva> yay :D
[21:42] <Nexilva> I checked ncdu / -x and it seems /usr is 10gb cuz of stuff I have installed.
[21:43] <Nexilva> I clead up caches and package cache etc.
[21:43] <Nexilva> I think I hve to remove a lot of ubuntu default stuff
[21:43] <Nexilva> I have neve rused 1/2 the stuff ubuntu ships with
[21:43] <Nexilva> you should make it more leaner and cleaner
[21:43] <Nexilva> ship with less stuff, and let people download it or install it from cd
[21:43] <avih> tomreyn: off topic, re "just a couple scripts", in case you're not a native english speaker (i'm not), i've been told repeatedly that "couple of" is very strictly "exactly two" and not "few" :)
[21:43] <Nexilva> dont' automatically install a whole bunch of stuff
[21:44] <NorthwestVegan> i think you could do that by installing ubuntu-server
[21:44] <NorthwestVegan> and choosing to install none of the extras
[21:44] <Nexilva> Yeah, but then you have to setup a desktop manually
[21:44] <tomreyn> Nexilva: if you have an ubuntu support question, this is the right place, for discussion please use #ubuntu-discuss, for feature reqeusts please use the bug tracker.
[21:45] <Nexilva> Thank you
[21:45] <Nexilva> That's useful information
[21:45] <tomreyn> avih: thanks, and indee i'm not.
[21:45] <Nexilva> What is the bugtracking links?
[21:45] <tomreyn> *indeed
[21:46] <tomreyn> part of this info is also in the channel topic
[21:46] <Nexilva> I have a list of things to suggest :)
[21:46] <avih> tomreyn: foreign_packages looks very useful, thanks :)
[21:46] <Nexilva> I did /topic but I don't see any text in channel
[21:46] <Nexilva> I think my irc is broke
[21:47] <Nexilva> it's not in status window either
[21:47] <Nexilva> and the top of the irc window is cut off, text client, I only se up to 16.0
[21:47] <Nexilva> then topic gets cut off
[21:47] <tomreyn> avih: yw
[21:47] <avih> you got starred! :)
[21:48] <avih> ouch #!/bin/bash . where's the posix love? :)
[21:49] <tomreyn> i'm sure there are worse deficiencies in it.
[21:51] <Nexilva> I tried to install apt-get install links2 and it it not instaling
[21:51] <Nexilva> do ubuntu have links2 browser?
[21:51] <pavlos> would that be lynx?
[21:51] <NorthwestVegan> it has lynx
[21:51] <Nexilva> nah. Links has a graphical mode
[21:51] <Nexilva> links2 -g
[21:52] <Nexilva> I  need that to browse, fastly
[21:53] <Nexilva> Oh, I deleted apt cache
[21:53] <Nexilva> no wonder it can't find any packages.
[21:53] <Nexilva> I gotta update the package list
[21:53] <avih> Nexilva: links2 seems to be installable. maybe you should enable the "universe" packages in "software and updates"
[21:53] <Nexilva> no I had to update apt-get update
[21:54] <NorthwestVegan> if you do apt update you get pretty colors :)
[21:54] <avih> also, if you want a fast graphics browser, you should also consider dillo and netsurf. i think both are better than links2
[21:54] <Nexilva> apt?
[21:54] <Nexilva> Oh it's a diff tool!
[21:55] <NorthwestVegan> yeah , you can apt search and apr upgrade too
[21:55] <Nexilva> $  cat tmp/test|nc termbin.com 9999
[21:55] <Nexilva> Oh whoops
[21:56] <Nexilva> https://termbin.com/tist
[21:56] <Nexilva> Here is my .bashrc piece of code
[21:56] <Nexilva> I am gonna update my aliases
[21:56] <Nexilva> so apt is a new colorful better program?
[21:56] <Nexilva> What happened to aptitude? I thought that was a the new one
[21:57] <NorthwestVegan> it also gives you annice little progress bar
[21:57] <Nexilva> does apt also support similar commands and siwtches?
[21:58] <NorthwestVegan> im not sure, i only use it for search, update, and upgrade, i think its recommended to use apt-get in scripts and such
[21:58] <Nexilva> ok
[21:58] <Nexilva> I like progress bars.
[21:59] <Nexilva> What's your favorite pager?
[21:59]  * avih sells cheap progress bars!
[21:59] <tomreyn> aptitude is still there, no longer the default, it doesn't understand the fact that apt marked packages held, so (even though some say it has a better dependency resolver, which i'm not sure about) i recommend against using it.  also because i find it to be overengineered.
[22:00] <Nexilva> less, more, most, w3m
[22:00] <NorthwestVegan> less is the only one i use
[22:01] <avih> same. less.
[22:02] <NorthwestVegan> less you can move with the arrows and do "/ query" to search
[22:03] <Nexilva> more can't scroll backwards through pages
[22:03] <Nexilva> less can
[22:03] <NorthwestVegan> less > more lol
[22:03] <Nexilva> small embedded systems have more but not less
[22:03] <Nexilva> exactly!
[22:03] <avih> and less supports syntax highlighter with pipe, and nice status, amd case insensitive search
[22:04] <Nexilva> They say less is more. But if less is more, then just imagine how much more 'more' would be, right?
[22:04] <avih> not really. the analogy is that more is less.
[22:04] <avih> corrolary*
[22:04] <Nexilva> less is like 25k lines of code or more. more is like 2k lines of code or less.
[22:05] <Nexilva> So in this case, more is less, and less is more!
[22:05] <NorthwestVegan> lol
[22:05] <Nexilva> most is supposed to be more than less
[22:05] <avih> yeah. less is a bit bloated. but if it works, it's good.
[22:05] <Nexilva> scroll left, right, wrapping, multiple pages
[22:06] <avih> less does this too. not sure what "multiple pages" is
[22:07] <Nexilva> most has the ability to decompress gunzip-compressed files before reading like zless
[22:07] <Nexilva> less is more, but more more than more is, so more is less less, so use more less if you want less more.
[22:07] <avih> arrows scroll to the sides too, -S (while in less) toggles wrapping in less
[22:08] <Two_Dogs> yes Martha, there is more to linux than more/less , dont let the geeks depress you
[22:09] <Nexilva> Martha?
[22:09] <Two_Dogs> google it
[22:09] <Nexilva> Who is Martha?
[22:10] <Nexilva> It's a common name. It's not going to help search for it.
[22:11] <powerninja> hello I see 2 packages can be updated, how do I see which packages?
[22:11] <ducasse> powerninja: apt list --upgradable
[22:15] <powerninja> OK, for the same version
[22:33] <niee> anyone to help me please?
[22:33] <niee> [drm:intel_cpu_fifo_underrun_irq_handler [i915]] *ERROR* CPU pipe A FIFO underrun
[22:36] <OerHeks> niee, looks like just a warning, what intel GPU is this?
[22:37] <niee> OerHeks: i dont know. my laptop model "toshiba satellite a300 "
[22:38] <niee> may be ATI
[22:39] <tomreyn> it's intel gpu related. basically it means that the graphics chipset was given more work than it was able to handle in time. but there are also bugs which could cause this. is your system fully updated?
[22:41] <niee> tomreyn: "system fully updated" no. never updated. 16.04 version.
[22:41] <tomreyn> niee: what'S the output of:   lsb_release -ds; cat /proc/version /proc/cmdline
[22:41] <OerHeks> Radeon Mobility HD3470 .. uh oh, not supported
[22:41] <tomreyn> never updated?
[22:42] <OerHeks> but the intel, what gives ' lspci | grep VGA '
[22:42] <niee> tomreyn: yes. never. it is not possible to start to run any command.
[22:44] <tomreyn> niee: how do you mean "it is not possible to start to run any command", what do you try to do, what happens, what would you expect to happen instead?
[22:44] <avih> Iolo: ^ perfect practice for "great! reinstall!" :p
[22:44] <avih> oops, sorry, wrong highlight.
[22:45] <niee> tomreyn: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UE4pW2qtI6LEWxkz8Bg3MXE7Di6OkSnj/view?usp=sharing
[22:46] <tomreyn> oh, so it fails to boot up fully and you end up in a busybox shell during initramfs initialization.
[22:46] <tomreyn> you are welcome to point such things out on your own ;)
[22:46] <avih> :)
[22:47] <avih> "did this system ever work" might also be a question worth answering..
[22:47] <tomreyn> niee: did ubuntu work properly there previously? if so, what happened / was changed in the meantime?
[22:47] <niee> my English is not good and I can not describe it properly. can you get it right?
[22:48] <tomreyn> niee: not without your input, no.
[22:48] <avih> niee: what happened before it broke?
[22:48] <niee> tomreyn: yes. stops electricity many times
[22:49] <tomreyn> okay, we cant fix hardware problems.
[22:49] <TJ-> niee: type "dmesg" and then take a photo of the screen
[22:49] <avih> niee: in the future, a UPS can help if your laptop doesn't have a battery.
[22:50] <niee> TJ-: ok. one moment please.
[22:50] <TJ-> Strange there are no warnings there
[22:50] <niee> tomreyn: if I have to place the hard drive on another computer. it is the same thing, and there we have a problem
[22:51] <tomreyn> hmm, not sure i understand.
[22:51] <TJ-> I think niee means the same boot result no matter what PC it is plugged into :)
[22:52] <TJ-> rather than meaning when mounted as a secondary device
[22:52] <tomreyn> maybe. niee: focus on the dmesg, it is a good start
[22:52] <OerHeks> lucky your Toshiba Satellite A300 has no uefi
[22:59] <niee> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1J7vbYSLoNMPVLBhtuF4zAI2--N7VYH9U/view?usp=sharing
[22:59] <niee> https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZKrXFukVrIi1SgoK-BIbdC0btF80X7TZ/view?usp=sharing
[23:00] <niee> TJ-: tomreyn please see pic
[23:00] <TJ-> niee: disk has all but failed, it has I/O errors and uncorrected reallocation failures
[23:02] <niee> TJ-: can anything be done to get it right?
[23:03] <TJ-> niee: replace the disk, and I hope oyu have back-ups of important data
[23:04] <tomreyn> niee: i agree with TJ. Your Toshiba MQ01ABD100 hard disk drive is faulty. You can replace it by an SSD.
[23:05] <niee> no. i dont have. this is the problem. I managed to transfer most files but I do not know if I can save it phpmyadmin databace.
[23:06] <niee> does anyone know if you can transfer databases from a file folder?
[23:07] <tomreyn> Use dd_rescue to create a full disk image on a separate drive of the same or larger size (which you will overwrite), then try to restore your data from there.
[23:07] <niee> and then import them to the new installation
[23:07] <niee> tomreyn: ok. next time...
[23:08] <tomreyn> i mean this time
[23:08] <niee> this time is not it late?
[23:08] <tomreyn> this is a data recovery approach, not a standard backup approach.
[23:08] <niee> hmm
[23:09] <tomreyn> apparently you are hoping to be table to recover data somehow. so this is a possible approach.
[23:10] <tomreyn> if your filesystem containing the database still works you can just dd_rescue that.
[23:10] <tomreyn> or even copy the data from a read-only mounted file system
[23:11] <TJ-> I don't think that is going to work, part of the problem is the because the underlying disk is failing, the kernel cannot create a DM device (dm-1) which I'm guessing is an LVM
[23:11] <TJ-> so, there are several layers to get through to access the data conventionally
[23:12] <TJ-> In the meantime the drive may be failing more
[23:12] <tomreyn> true, thus the dd_rescue suggestion
[23:13] <tomreyn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RCgGZbaJeE&feature=youtu.be&t=62 explains how to replace the hard drive.
[23:13] <TJ-> Agreed; niee in the meantime I'd recommend keeping that drive powered off to avoid further damage, until you can do a recovery using dd_rescue to another storage device
[23:14] <niee> with live usb disk i have access to all files. I can copy to another hard drive. if this helps save phpmyadmin databases. they're just important to me.
[23:15] <niee> ok. tnx for help for all :).
[23:15] <tomreyn> the safer process is definitely to first create the image on a working storage, then recover what data is left from there (or from another copy of it)
[23:16] <tomreyn> the fact that you are able to mount the file system on another computer doesn't say very much about whether the database itself will still be readable
[23:16] <niee> now I have to find a way to back up with this dd_rescue program, and then see how to get back what can come back
[23:16] <lordcirth_> What if the files are much smaller than the filesystem? Could mounting ro result in less reads and thus faster recovery before it fails?
[23:16] <tomreyn> it is actually likely that reading the data will fail at some point, and that the disk will stop orking entirely then
[23:17] <tomreyn> !pm | niee
[23:18] <tomreyn> be sure to recover both the database files from /var/lib/mysql and all of /etc, or /etc/mysql*
[23:19] <tomreyn> once you have create the image with dd_rescue come back here to get more help with the DB recovery.
[23:20] <niee> tomreyn: ok : ) many tnx for all.
[23:20] <tomreyn> niee: you're welcome.
[23:23] <Nexilva> I am going to attempt to upgrade from 18.04 to 18.10 using apt instead of reinstall
[23:23] <Nexilva> What do you think? Is this recommended?
[23:24] <CodeMouse92> Nexilva: Absolutely not, if you value your system stability.
[23:24] <Nexilva> why?
[23:24] <lordcirth_> Nexilva, "using apt"? Do you mean using do-release-upgrade?
[23:24] <lordcirth_> I personally always reinstall; however, do-release-upgrade is a supported method.
[23:24] <Nexilva> either that, or just changing bionic to cosmic in sources.list and dist-upgrade
[23:24] <Nexilva> or full-upgrade
[23:24] <CodeMouse92> The way I read that, he was talking about manually upgrading all his packages.
[23:25] <lordcirth_> don't do that; do-release-upgrade exists for a reason
[23:25] <Nexilva> looking now
[23:25] <CodeMouse92> Upgrades aren't just package updates
[23:25] <CodeMouse92> That is, release upgrades
[23:25] <lordcirth_> Yeah, you'd get a 95% working (meaning utterly broken) install
[23:26] <Nexilva> Debian based systems can also be upgraded by using apt dist-upgrade. However, using do-release-upgrade is recommended because it has the ability to handle system configuration changes sometimes needed between releases.
[23:27] <Nexilva> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/installing-upgrading.html.en
[23:27] <Nexilva> I'm on desktop lts
[23:27] <Nexilva> sounds good to e
[23:28] <Nexilva> uhm, guys
[23:28] <Nexilva> Checking for a new Ubuntu release
[23:28] <Nexilva> No new release found.
[23:28] <Nexilva> But .10 is out right? What month is this?
[23:28] <lordcirth_> 18.10 = October 2018
[23:28] <Nexilva> yeah, so I'm on .04 and it says no new release found.
[23:29] <OerHeks> Nexilva, change updates in the gui menu from lts > lts to any new version
[23:29] <Nexilva> gui menu?
[23:29] <Nexilva> I'm sorry I don't know how to use a lot of gui stuff.
[23:29] <Nexilva> I'm new to ubuntu after like 17 years of debian.
[23:30] <OerHeks> open software & updates .. https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/10/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-18-10
[23:30] <Nexilva> https://linuxhint.com/upgrade_ubuntu_1804_1810/ found this too
[23:30] <lordcirth_> Nexilva, edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades; change 'lts' to 'normal'
[23:31] <Nexilva> ahh
[23:31] <Nexilva> oh interesting.
[23:31] <OerHeks> i would stick on LTS
[23:31] <lordcirth_> By default, LTS releases only show upgrades to other LTS releases
[23:32] <Nexilva> I figured.
[23:32] <Nexilva> That is even possible>
[23:32] <lordcirth_> I'm personally sticking with 18.04 on my desktop; 6 months isn't enough to be worth upgrading away from LTS
[23:32] <Nexilva> Isn't LTS released every 3 years or something
[23:32] <lordcirth_> every 2 years
[23:32] <lordcirth_> $EVEN.04
[23:32] <Nexilva> upgrading even after 2 years might change thigns drastically
[23:33] <Nexilva> Do you guys make sure it's upgradable before release?
[23:33] <OerHeks> !mm/yy
[23:33] <lordcirth_> Nexilva, I reinstall. Once every 2 years isn't too bad
[23:34] <OerHeks> !yy.mm
[23:35] <Nexilva> I have 25 gb /, out of which 9g is free
[23:35] <Nexilva> I hope that's enough to upgrade.
[23:35] <Nexilva> Otherwise I'm screwed, eh
[23:35] <Schnabeltierchen> Does anybody know a tutorial to install Ubuntu on a HPE ProLiant DL385p Gen8?
[23:36] <lordcirth_> Schnabeltierchen, is there something special about that machine that requires its own tutorial?
[23:36] <Nexilva> Has anyone does this? Do you recommend 18.10?
[23:36] <lordcirth_> Nexilva, if you are not aware of a specific reason to go to 18.10, you should probably stick to LTS
[23:37] <Nexilva> Well, I need latest packages for dev stuff, haskell, xmonada, etc. etc.
[23:37] <lordcirth_> Nexilva, for haskell you should probably be using stack
[23:37] <Nexilva> I have stack, sure.
[23:37] <Schnabeltierchen> lordcirth_ i´ve tried to install the desktop version, i tried the server version, i´ve tried the net-install version. everyone got stuck at the install :(
[23:37] <Nexilva> I think I'll stick with lts
[23:38] <lordcirth_> Schnabeltierchen, ok, where did it get stuck?
[23:40] <Schnabeltierchen> Here comes the point, i think it was after selecting "install ubuntu"... i´ve tried installing it, it was 4 month ago the last time, since then it´s running esxi 6.5.
[23:44] <Nexilva> I think I like ubuntu lts maybe more than debian stable b/c of the packags and stuff
[23:44] <Nexilva> they seem to have more in ubuntu.
[23:44] <Nexilva> mabye.
[23:45] <lordcirth__> Nexilva, it depends which repos you enable in both distros
[23:48] <cnnx> kernel 5.0 is out... any way i can get it on ubuntu or I have to install gentoo?
[23:50] <SlidingHorn> cnnx: You could build it and install it, but know that it would not be supported here or on the forums.
[23:50] <cnnx> ok
[23:51] <OerHeks> kernel 5 is not out
[23:51] <OerHeks> please move to #gentoo :-D
[23:51] <lordcirth__> https://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges 4.20 seems to be the latest
[23:52] <Bashing-om> cnnx: https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=N;O=D :v5.0-rc1  is there for testing.
[23:52] <OerHeks> cnnx, ask there for kernel 6.0 rc1 too
[23:55] <tomreyn> !latest | cnnx
[23:55] <tomreyn> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tag/?h=v5.0
[23:55] <tomreyn> https://www.kernel.org/
[23:55] <tomreyn> no 5.0
[23:57] <OerHeks> just a rc