[00:00] <slangasek> krafty: and when you say that oo-about-ubuntu-ru.rtf is in Greek, are you sure it's Greek as opposed to Russian, which is what it's supposed to be?
[00:00] <slangasek> (it displays fine in Russian for me on an installed system)
[00:27] <stgraber> ubuntu alternate amd64/i386 manual + LTSP will be done in an hour, they are installing now
[00:55] <TheMuso> Thanks to whoever is testing studio i386.
[01:04] <stgraber> alright, laptop is doing so much ISO testing that I can't even switch windows on it, it's time for some food while waiting for things to become fast again :)
[01:08] <heno> TheMuso: that would be pedro
[01:09] <TheMuso> heno: Yes I saw.
[01:11] <stgraber> ok, with the tests I'm currently doing, we'll then have Ubuntu alternates and Ubuntu desktops done
[01:12] <stgraber> not sure what I'll take next though, I can't really start downloading some new images due to the slow internet ... I'll probably just continue doing some more testing on already validated ones
[01:14] <heno> stgraber: that would be good - it would be great to get double coverage on all cases (or at least the key ones)
[01:15] <stgraber> yeah
[01:16] <stgraber> and we really need testers for Mythbuntu
[01:20] <heno> stgraber: I'm doing that now
[01:20] <stgraber> ok
[01:21] <heno> though some Mythubuntu people who know better what it should do would be great
[01:21] <heno> I can confirm that it installs, plays sounds, starts the mythtv apps, etc
[01:33] <stgraber> that's 3 more images done :) I now take server amd64, doing that remaining lvm + erase disk testcase and confirming all the others
[01:52] <TheMuso> Ok studio tests are all validated at least once.
[02:09] <slangasek> \o/
[02:21] <stgraber> nobody happens to have an ESX setup at home ? :)
[02:21] <stgraber> that's the only remaining testcase for Ubuntu server
[02:23] <heno> I'm going to get some sleep - back in a few hours
[02:23] <stgraber> heno: good night
[02:25]  * stgraber takes Ubuntu server i386
 ping
[02:29] <slangasek> krafty: hi
[02:29] <krafty> slangasek: hey, sorry, it was my first time through the test suite
[02:29] <slangasek> no worries, I just need some clarification :)
[02:30] <krafty> slangasek: its a pass. i just started a week and half ago; just trying to helo
[02:30] <krafty> slangasek: do i need to change the report or is all cool?
[02:31] <slangasek> krafty: I've marked it as a pass now, thanks :)
[02:32] <krafty> slangasek: cool, thanks. sorry for any confusion.
[02:32] <slangasek> no worries
[03:03]  * TheMuso goes to validate the two remaining tests for kubuntu alternate amd64.
[03:04] <stgraber> cool
[03:04] <stgraber> we'll also need someone who can easily setup VMs for test upgrade (Xubuntu)
[03:05] <TheMuso> Sure, I can power up a xubuntu hardy vm for a test upgrade.
[03:05] <stgraber> would be cool, I don't quite have the bandwidth to download Xubuntu hardy + the upgrade :( I really need to order that 10Mbit internet :)
[03:06] <TheMuso> Does it matter what vm software is used?
[03:06] <TheMuso> stgraber: I keep a local mirror hardy and intrepid here.
[03:06] <stgraber> no, I'm doing everything in kvm myself because it's the easiest to setup but everything should work now (wasn't the case with the alphas)
[03:06] <TheMuso> But in this instance I'll probably use my ISP's mirror.
[03:06] <TheMuso> right
[03:18] <rimestad> hi, i have a quick question about Intrepid. It's just that i'm missing a file, and i don't know if it is just me! The package x11-common installs a symbolic link from /usr/share/X11/rgb.txt to /etc/X11/rgb.txt, which is used by some programs, but the file /etc/X11/rgb.txt dos not exist with me and I can't find it any where else! Is that just me or are any other with x11-common installed missing that file to?
[03:21] <stgraber> rimestad: that file exists here
[03:21] <stgraber> stgraber@castiana:~$ dpkg -S /etc/X11/rgb.txt
[03:21] <stgraber> x11-common: /etc/X11/rgb.txt
[03:22] <stgraber> so it came with x11-common, but as it's a config file, if you remove it or something removes it, it won't be restored on update
[03:22] <stgraber> (except if the update actually changes the file)
[03:23]  * stgraber hopes his memories of how config files are handled are right :)
[03:23] <persia> Well, there are different kinds of configuration files in /etc : some are conffiles, and some are not conffiles, but that's close enough to correct that the details don't matter in this case.
[03:24] <rimestad> ok :)
[03:24] <persia> (there are also somethings files that can be used for configuration in /usr/share/ but those are not considered either conffiles or configuration files, but that's even less relevant in this case)
[03:24] <persia> s/somethings/sometimes/1
[03:25] <rimestad> is there a way i can restore it then?
[03:25] <rimestad> cause im missing it and i have a application needing it!
[03:25] <persia> You could download and extract the package, and copy it from the package source, or purge and reinstall the package (this probably has unfortunate domino effects for x11-common)
[03:26] <persia> s/package source/extracted package/
[03:26] <rimestad> ok, I will go for the download an extract then :)
[03:26] <rimestad> thanks
[03:31] <TheMuso> /c/c
[03:42] <rimestad> The only rgb.txt file I can find in the x11-common (1:7.4~5ubuntu3) package is the symbolic link! so the file /etc/X11/rgb.txt is not created by this package! i have looked a little around the web and it seems that this has been a problem before where the xrgb package provided the file, but that package don't exist any more!
[06:44]  * heno preps for some upgrade tests
[06:58]  * heno starts ubuntu DVD oem test
[07:11] <liw> good morning
[07:12] <liw> heno, which upgrade tests? I'm about to start the xubuntu ones (i386 and amd64)
[07:12] <liw> or, rather, just the i386 one, since I didn't manage to create an amd64 hardy image
[07:13] <heno> liw: I'll do the kub 64 first then
[07:14] <liw> heno, ack, I didn't manage to create a kubuntu amd64 hardy image, either
[07:14] <heno> ok
[07:35] <ara> morning all :)
[07:54]  * liw takes Kubuntu DVD amd64 ubiquity OEM install test
[08:02]  * liw takes Ubuntu DVD amd64 debian-installer install test
[08:26] <heno> Hi ara. Happen to have any 64-bit VMs lying around?
[08:27] <heno> Hardy, that is
[08:27] <davmor2> Good Morning Everybody
[08:27] <ara> hello heno. I am afraid, not
[08:27] <heno> hey davmor2
[08:27] <davmor2> heno: what do you need
[08:27] <heno> davmor2: we need 2 64-bit upgrade tests
[08:28] <heno> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/untested
[08:28] <davmor2> heno: yeah I can do them
[08:28] <heno> davmor2: rock!
[08:28] <davmor2> apparently liw was having issues with 64bit in vm on kubuntu yesterday
[08:29] <heno> I'm having the same problems liw did creating hardy 64 kvm images
[08:29] <heno> yeah, it's a kvm-on-intrepid bug
[08:30] <davmor2> so I'll take the 2 64bit then if you can retest the edubuntu netboot against the gb server
[08:30] <davmor2> heno: ^
[08:31] <heno> davmor2: will do
[08:31] <davmor2> cool
[08:32] <davmor2> heno: do you want a load of packages installing before upgrade?
[08:32] <heno> ah! got a hardy 64 VM now with the server ISO
[08:35]  * ara takes xubuntu i386 upgrade testing
[08:38] <liw2> yo
[08:38] <slangasek> wow, we're down to only 3 unfinished tests?  great work, all
[08:38] <slangasek> that gives us extra time to reroll the DVDs then, right? :-)
[08:42]  * davmor2 Hears shots from all around the world heading in slangasek's direction
[09:05] <liw> ubuntu server again needs tests by someone with vmware
[09:06] <liw> slangasek, three unfinished tests? I count four
[09:07] <slangasek> liw: I was going by the above-mentioned http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/untested, which seems to count differently
[09:07] <liw> slangasek, ah yeah, that lists stuff that hasn't even been started yet
[09:07] <heno> there is also http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/build/all/inprogress
[09:08] <slangasek> liw: oh, right
[09:08] <liw> davmor2 is doing the 64-bit upgrade tests, so we now need to hunt down someone who can be forced to admit to having vmware
[09:09] <slangasek> specifically vmware ESX, no?
[09:09] <heno> vmware with ESX, a rather specialised setup
[09:10] <davmor2> slangasek: I think it's safe to assume that if the server guys who setup the option don't have then we're screwed :)
[09:10] <slangasek> I've pung them already, yes
[09:10] <slangasek> but possibly before any of them were awake
[09:10] <liw> slangasek, you have phone numbers, use them!
[09:11] <slangasek> heh
[09:11] <liw> I should note that since all my testing is under kvm, I haven't had any success with stuff that uses audio -- might be good for someone to test some of that on real hardware
[09:11] <slangasek> more effective to wait for them to wander sleepily to the computer on their own, and /then/ pounce
[09:13] <heno> davmor2: edubuntu netboot still hangs on the .gb mirror, trying the .no one
[09:17] <mathiaz> slangasek: hm - ESX - I may be able to get access to an instance
[09:17] <mathiaz> slangasek: we used to have one community member doing the testing
[09:18] <slangasek> mathiaz: it would be good if someone could get access to an instance if this is going to remain on our list of test cases, yes :)
[09:27] <heno> hm, edu netboot hangs on no.archive.u.c too; trying archive.u.c sanity check
[09:27] <ara> upgrade testing on xubuntu (with 'es' lang support) is 941 packages. not too bad :)
[09:42] <davmor2> mvo: do you deal with the kubuntu upgrades too?
[09:50] <mvo> davmor2: maybe, what is the issue?
[09:51] <davmor2> I keep getting error messages could not install x the upgrade will continue.... but this might not work....
[10:01] <mvo> davmor2: urgs, please keep it running and file a bug, that is bad(tm)
[10:01] <mvo> davmor2: do you remember which one the first package was that gave this error?
[10:01] <mvo> davmor2: apport should pop up at the end of the upgrade
[10:05] <davmor2> nvidia-glx-new bug filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/290638
[10:05] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 290638 in update-manager "kubuntu upgrade error" [Undecided,New]
[10:05] <davmor2> mvo: that's the exact message but I'm on about number 6-7
[10:06] <davmor2> mvo: the log will be in /var/log/dist-upgrade right?  If so I'll attach it to the bug
[10:09] <mvo> davmor2: yes, that is the dir. if you don't mind file a new bug (with apport) that should be the easiest, we can always duplicate it
[10:10] <davmor2> mvo: I'm not sure it crashes it's just error but I can try for you
[10:22] <davmor2> mvo: apport reports no crashes
[10:23] <persia> davmor2, Remember that in today's images apport is off by default.
[10:24] <davmor2> persia: it's apport that is reporting there are no crashes :)
[10:25] <davmor2> persia, mvo: sorry with you.  I'll restart with hardy and add apport
[10:26] <mvo> davmor2: please save the logs first :)
[10:26] <mvo> davmor2: and/or attach to the bugreport you mentioned earlier
[10:28] <davmor2> mvo: do you want all the logs or just main.log/apt.log
[10:30] <mvo> davmor2: main.log and term.log (or apt-term.log) are the most important ones
[10:31] <davmor2> no probs
[10:34] <davmor2> mvo: main and term are up.  apt-term is empty
[10:34] <davmor2> mvo: anything else before I wipe it?
[10:35] <mvo> davmor2: in #290638 ?
[10:35] <mvo> davmor2: /var/log/apt/term.log (just for completness)
[10:35] <davmor2> yes and Ill upload it now
[10:36] <mvo> thanks davmor2!
[10:37] <davmor2> mvo: /var/log/apt/term.log is empty too
[10:43] <mvo> davmor2: ok, thanks
[10:45] <mvo> davmor2: do you still have the base image of that install?
[10:46] <davmor2> mvo: the kubuntu hardy one?
[10:47] <mvo> yes
[10:47] <davmor2> mvo: just reinstalling it now and adding apport to the mix
[10:54] <davmor2> mvo: is there anything you would like me to try with it or just add apport?
[10:55] <mvo> davmor2: it looks like for some reason your nvidia-glx-new install was broken
[10:55] <mvo> and I wonder why
[10:55]  * heno afk
[10:55] <mvo> on the hardy system, so it would be cool if you could try if you can reproduce the fialure
[10:56] <davmor2> I shall try
[11:06] <davmor2> mvo: I think I know what happened D'oh my bag.  I think I did the nvidia update restarted so I could see the whole screen and then did the updates.  I'm trying it the other way around now see if that fixes it :)
[11:26] <davmor2> mvo: Right that's nvidia enabled and in use.  installing apport and then I'll go for the upgrade again
[12:19] <stgraber> morning
[12:28] <ara> morning stgraber :-)
[12:29] <davmor2> mvo: still throwing up the errors
[12:34] <davmor2> stgraber: morning dude
[12:40] <pips1> stgraber: hi
[12:41] <pips1> stgraber: i see you tested ltsp and the edubuntu add-on cds..
[12:44] <stgraber> pips1: yeah
[12:45] <davmor2> mvo: same issue
[12:46] <pips1> stgraber: have you been in touch with RichEd lately?
[12:46]  * ara -> lunch
[12:47] <stgraber> pips1: not really, saw him on #edubuntu two weeks ago while he was with ogra in germany (IIRC)
[12:47] <pips1> stgraber: I won't be able to put the edubuntu release notes on the website tomorrow, because I'm busy with work meetings.. so I want to find a replacement to help out with the e.o website
[12:48] <pips1> I noticed some new drupal accounts in e.o, perhaps they can help.. you know tirion and nubae?
[12:53] <mvo> davmor2: interessting, was that a fresh kubuntu install and then you added nvidia and it crashed?
[12:53] <mvo> davmor2: I will try to reproduce it here, I wonder why its happening on kubuntu but not on ubuntu
[12:53] <davmor2> mvo: it didn't crash though that is what is so confusing.  The whole process works as expected until the upgrade.
[12:55] <davmor2> mvo: Yeap straight install I added some apps and bookmarks first time round.  But second time was a vanilla install plus updates plus nvidia
[12:56] <davmor2> mvo: jockey starts up the after reboot and informs you that the nvidia drivers are in use
[12:56] <mvo> davmor2: thanks, I give it a go now (kubuntu regular, not the kde4 version?)
[12:56] <davmor2> kubuntu 3.5.6 or whatever it is yes
[13:07] <davmor2> mvo: would it be worth trying against kde4 too, to see if you get the same issue?
[13:14] <slangasek> mvo: nvidia-glx-177 Conflicts: nvidia-glx, nvidia-glx-new Provides: nvidia-glx; so nvidia-glx-new should have been uninstalled before the nvidia-glx-177 preinst ever triggered?
[13:43] <james_w> Hi, the ISO tracker looks full, but I know that's no reason to stop.
[13:43] <james_w> any suggestions for what I hammer on?
[13:46] <ogra> james_w, ubuntu-umpc ;)
[13:46] <ogra> or -mid
[13:54] <persia> Generally, hit whatever has the lowest test count.
[13:56] <mvo> davmor2: hm, I can not reproduce the issue here it seems, let me try again
[14:14] <davmor2> mvo: I'm retrying here too
[14:37] <davmor2> heno: this one preserve home you might want to think about adding it as a testcase sound important if it is going to affect that quantity of cd's and dvd's
[14:40] <heno> davmor2: right. perhaps we should just modify the manual partitioning case for this run
[14:43] <heno> davmor2: did you write something? I can merge it in there
[14:43] <heno> (or I can write something)
[14:44] <davmor2> heno: I'm not sure we got as far as actual install methods.  Although there might be one on the old server
[14:48] <davmor2> heno: it's there but basic for manual partitioning https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Ubuntu/LiveCd/LiveInstall  but I think this would need a separate case specifically.  I can write one up for jaunty but it want be in time for this round.  Although the instructions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbiquityPreserveHome should be good enough for now.
[14:52] <heno> davmor2: indeed - I'll have a look. Not sure how quickly stgraber can get a new case on the tracker
[14:52] <davmor2> heno: for now just add a note to manual I think it'll be the easiest
[14:53] <heno> agreed
[14:53] <davmor2> and then sort out a proper testcase etc for jaunty
[15:00] <davmor2> sounds like it might be a late night then.
[15:14] <ogra> hrm
[15:15] <ogra> "ConsoleSetup failed with exit code 10. ...." in ubiquity ubuntu-mid, german instally trying to select an us keyboard
[15:15] <ogra> lool, ^^^ :(
[15:17] <lool> ogra: File a bug
[15:17] <ogra> will do indeed
[15:17] <ogra> after the install finished
[15:36] <ogra> lool, bah, that issue makes the install fail badly in the end
[15:39] <lool> ogra: Could you file it and look into it with persia or other installer people?
[15:39] <ogra> on it
[15:42]  * persia is hungry for a bug number
[15:43] <davmor2> persia: bug 1 go on fix that ;)
[15:43] <persia> davmor2, I'm trying, but it's a hard one, so I appreciate your help.
[15:43] <davmor2> :D
[15:46] <ogra> persia, sorry, took a moment to get the logs
[15:46] <ogra> persia, bug 290760
[15:49] <persia> ogra, Could you also attach /var/log/syslog ?  (and /var/log/partman might be interesting, but I don't think so in this case)
[15:50] <ogra> on its way, dont be pushy, i need to get them copied over first :)
[15:50] <ogra> partitioning worked fine, but i'l attach the partman log anyway
[15:52] <ogra> done
[15:52] <ogra> persia, i'll start over now to get a properly finishing install
[15:52] <ogra> shout if i shouldnt :)
[15:53] <persia> Before you reboot, could you check for /etc/default/console-setup?
[15:54] <ogra> there is /etc/default/console-setup.pre-ubiquity only
[15:54] <ogra> and afaik that gets only installed if console-setup is getting installed
[15:55] <ogra> hmm
[15:55] <persia> How about /target/etc/default/console-setup ?
[15:55] <ogra> syslog disagrees
[15:56] <ogra> target has it
[15:56] <ogra> bt the command seems to try to copy it from /
[15:56] <persia> syslog seems to imply you connected the keyboard after you got the keyboard setup error.
[15:56] <ogra> i didnt connect anything
[15:56] <ogra> i just selected an US kbd
[15:56] <ogra> on the Q1
[15:57] <ogra> the question is why does ubiquity expect /etc/default/console-setup?
[15:57] <persia> Dunno then.  Take a look at 15:41:35 [1846.716058]
[15:58] <persia> That's because console-setup needs it to be missing to setup the console properly.
[15:59] <persia> Might try the same with -desktop from usb-creator.  I'm curious if it's different (shouldn't be)
[16:03] <ogra> cjwatson commented in devel
[16:21] <davmor2> heno: is the meeting on tonight?
[16:22] <heno> davmor2: yes, but it will mainly just be about the testing to be done
[16:52] <davmor2> heno: should we split this up between us as to the hardy installs?
[16:53] <heno> davmor2: ok. I've just prepared ubuntu and kubuntu 64-bit images, will you take i386?
[16:53] <davmor2> no probs
[16:53] <davmor2> which just leave xubuntu
[16:55] <heno> actually - we could probably use the same hardy image for several of these
[16:56] <persia> You really just need one per arch.  Might be extra-interesting to try hybrids, as it would be more obvious if something didn't work.  Remember to create a file in $HOME/Desktop or something as a flag.
[16:57] <heno> indeed
[16:58] <liw> what's up?
[16:58] <persia> liw, testing the install preserving /home case
[17:05] <liw> if I can help with that, do tell
[17:07] <persia> bug #287747, but other traffic in -meeting is probably more interesting until the respin lands.
[17:13] <liw> if there will be new images, do they need to be re-tested from scratch again?
[17:13] <persia> Yes, they need normal testing as well as testing of the new test case.
[17:14] <liw> ok. I'll stay around to help with that, at least
[17:15] <sbeattie> heno: is it expected that the driver cd option is only available from gfxboot on the desktop cd and not the others?
[17:19] <heno> sbeattie: don't know. do have a hardy kubuntu CD to check previous behaviour?
[17:20] <sbeattie> yeah, one sec.
[17:22] <sbeattie> err, perhaps I'm not being clear, though: it shows up as an option in the F4 menu for the desktop cd (kubuntu-ibex is my test disc) but not for the alternate or server images.
[17:22] <sbeattie> but I'll try with a hardy alt disk
[17:36] <sbeattie> okay, it's not on the hardy alt disk menu either.
[17:41] <liw> hm, if there's going to be a whole new round of iso testing, I think I'm going to need some caffeine
[18:05] <davmor2> Right hardy i386 ready to rock :)
[18:08] <liw> any idea of ETA for new images? (read: should I eat dinner now or tomorrow? :)
[18:08] <davmor2> liw: Friday's free you can eat Friday ;)
[18:09] <ScottK-laptop> liw: Never pass up a chance to eat.  You never know for sure when the next one will be.
[18:09] <davmor2> I'm going for tea an second regardless I just readied my machines for the test that killed our results :)
[20:19] <Keybuk> liw: did you eat?
[20:39] <liw> Keybuk, yes
[22:10] <mathiaz> kirkland: what kind of tests can you do for iso-testing? amd64, i386?
[22:10] <kirkland> mathiaz: i can do amd64
[22:10] <kirkland> mathiaz: are the iso's available yet?
[22:10] <pgraner> cking:  what kind of tests can you do for iso-testing? amd64, i386?
[22:10] <mathiaz> kirkland: nope.
[22:10] <cking> pgraner: amd64
[22:10] <kirkland> mathiaz: k, ping me when they become so
[22:11] <mathiaz> kirkland: can you prepare for kubuntu cd manual amd64?
[22:11] <pgraner> cking: standby you'll see when images are ready, mdz will hit you up for the exact test case
[22:11] <kirkland> mathiaz: consider me "prepared"
[22:12] <cking> pgraner: ack
[22:12] <stgraber> oh oh, ISO testing in London offices ? :)
[22:12] <kirkland> mathiaz: post a url specifically to the iso you want tested, when it's available
[22:13] <pgraner> cking: can you do CD Live Session for both Ubuntu & Kbuntu amd64 pls?
[22:14] <cking> pgraner: OK - can I be given the url for these tests so I don't screw up
[22:14] <pgraner> cking: you can get ubuntu amd64 that image is ready
[22:15] <cking> pgraner: where?
[22:16] <evand> pgraner: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20081029.2/
[22:17] <cjwatson> stgraber: bandwidth for the win
[22:17] <pgraner> cking: use url above
[22:18] <cking> pgraner: ok
[22:19]  * cjwatson overwrites a Kubuntu 6.06 powerpc DVD
[22:19] <cjwatson> things you don't expect to find still lying around
[22:20] <cking> pgraner: any idea of the url of the page that describes the tests for this ISO?
[22:20] <cjwatson> they should be linked off iso.qa.ubuntu.com
[22:21]  * TheMuso always uses rewritables for testing.
[22:22] <davmor2> is that them up at last ?
[22:22] <cjwatson> ubuntu desktop is
[22:22] <cjwatson> oh, huh, let me update the tracker
[22:22] <mathiaz> cking: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Cases/LiveCDSession
[22:23] <cking> mathiaz: many thanks - that's what I was looking for!
[22:23] <cjwatson> damn, will have to rebuild ubuntu desktop
[22:23] <cjwatson> i386 has the wrong version of ubiquity
[22:24] <davmor2> cjwatson: Please god say that's a really bad joke
[22:25] <cjwatson> sorry, no
[22:25] <cjwatson> I'll keep the tracker up to date
[22:25] <davmor2> cjwatson: is 64bit alright or is that screwy too?
[22:25] <cjwatson> nobody ever put ubuntu desktop i386 on the tracker ...
[22:25] <cjwatson> amd64 is fine
[22:25] <cjwatson> I just updated the tracker with that
[22:26] <cjwatson> I can respin i386 and leave amd64 intact (the build number will change but it'll be identical)
[22:26] <davmor2> heno: you still around?
[22:26] <heno> yep
[22:27] <davmor2> can you cover the preserve home so I can nail the wubi/m-a installs please?
[22:28] <cjwatson> we can take care of wubi here if that would help
[22:28] <heno> preserve /home, yep
[22:29] <davmor2> cjwatson: I got xp/vista partimaged so it's no hassle
[22:33] <mathiaz> kirkland: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/2178/55
[22:34] <kirkland> mathiaz: url to the iso?
[22:34] <kirkland> mathiaz: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/intrepid-alternate-amd64.iso ?
[22:34] <mathiaz> kirkland: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/info/2178
[22:35] <evand> Anyone able to test Wubi with Vista?
[22:35] <davmor2> evand: Yes
[22:35] <evand> ah, right, I wasn't sure if you were on XP or Vista
[22:35] <evand> great
[22:36] <kirkland> mathiaz: got it
[22:37] <davmor2> evand both
[22:37]  * heno starts ubuntu amd64 manual-partition test
[22:39] <cjwatson> kubuntu desktop up
[22:39]  * davmor2 setting up xp and vista
[22:41] <schwuk> any tests needing urgent attention?
[22:41] <davmor2> schwuk: all of them ;)
[22:42] <schwuk> davmor2: :)
[22:42] <bdmurray> I'll be starting on kubuntu desktop i386 real soon now
[22:42] <ogasawara> bdmurray: I can help with some of those tests too
[22:43]  * davmor2 wubi and vista
[22:43]  * liw runs rsync
[22:43] <bdmurray> ogasawara: which isos do you have available for sync'ing?
[22:45] <ogasawara> bdmurray: I've got desktop, alt, and dvd
[22:45] <sbeattie> once my rsync finishes, I'm about to do a kubuntu i386 upgrade.
[22:45] <bdmurray> are upgrades necessary?
[22:46] <bdmurray> ogasawara: I'll start off with kubuntu i386 manual
[22:46] <heno> I don't think upgrades are needed
[22:47] <cjwatson> at least one upgrade would be good
[22:47] <cjwatson> oh, actually, no
[22:47] <cjwatson> the base-files change is in -security not release
[22:47] <ogasawara> bdmurray: ok, I'll get the Live Session real quick and then do the auto-resize
[22:48]  * davmor2 kubuntu burning, vista installing, ubuntu 64 wubi started
[22:51] <mdz> I'm finding that pidgin doesn't work properly in my test installs in KVM
[22:51] <bdmurray> Where should the kubuntu release notes link to?
[22:52] <mdz> it connects to irc.ubuntu.com, but then hangs shortly thereafter and stops redrawing
[22:52] <davmor2> mdz: I'll try it on hw in a second
[22:52] <liw> mdz, hmm, it took me up to half a minute to connect but otherwise worked
[22:54] <mdz> I get "spoofing your IP, congrats" then "idoru set your hostname to..." and then it no longer responds
[22:58] <liw> I got nothing like that
[23:01] <stgraber> 15 more minutes before I get something to test ...
[23:01] <liw> rsync finished -- what should I test?
[23:03] <bdmurray> liw: maybe something in ubuntu amd64?
[23:03] <heno> liw: start with some longish tests like oem?
[23:03] <mdz> davmor2: it works fine for me on real hardware
[23:04]  * liw starts on Ubuntu Desktop amd64 oem
[23:06] <liw> hm, I get different md5sums for what rsync downloaded and what the tracker tells me
[23:07] <davmor2> 1 down
[23:08] <liw> is the tracker's md5sum correct? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/20081029.2/intrepid-desktop-amd64.iso and f9cdb7e9ad85263dde17f8fc81a6305b?
[23:08] <stgraber> liw: the tracker reads the MD5SUM file on cdimage
[23:08] <schwuk> liw: already started that one
[23:09] <mdz> can anyone else reproduce this problem with pidgin?
[23:09] <liw> stgraber, so that would be a yes, then; something is therefore wrong with my rsyncing
[23:10] <davmor2> mdz: it is probably just kvm
[23:10] <liw> are these new images visible on chromium?
[23:11] <davmor2> liw: seem to be
[23:12] <davmor2> liw: there's a .4 on chromium did you get that instead of .2
[23:13] <liw> davmor2, dl-ubuntu-test-iso uses /current/ so I guess I'm getting whatever that points to
[23:13] <sbeattie> liw: are you using the dl script? ./dl-ubuntu-test-iso --version | grep /ubuntu/intrepid-desktop-amd64.iso will tell you what version the iso thinks it is.
[23:13] <davmor2> liw: .4 then I'm guessing
[23:14] <davmor2> slangasek: why we got ubuntu.4 on server and only .2 on the tracker
[23:14] <jon9314> does 8.10 upgrade smooth?
[23:15] <heno> the preserve /home test checks out for ubuntu 64bit, starting kubuntu 64
[23:16] <liw> sbeattie, hmm. --version or --versions? neither seems to output anything useful
[23:16] <slangasek> davmor2: the one posted to the tracker is the one to use
[23:16] <davmor2> no probs just wondering
[23:16]  * liw does manual rsyncs to be on the safe side
[23:19] <davmor2> slangasek: any sign of xubuntu coming through at all?
[23:19] <slangasek> checking its progress
[23:21] <liw> is Kubuntu Desktop amd64 20081029.1 good for testing? if so, I can take the oem test to start with
[23:21] <kirkland> mathiaz: Riddell: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/2178/55
[23:21] <kirkland> mathiaz: my test succeeded, no problems
[23:22]  * heno starts ubuntu-64 desktop auto-resize
[23:22] <kirkland> Riddell, et al: nice job with Kubuntu, I haven't seen it in ages ;-)
[23:22] <mvo> kde4 looks pretty nice
[23:23] <heno> Windows 7 is going to look like a cheap rip-off of Kubuntu :)
[23:25] <heno> (similar window boundaries and panel)
[23:25] <schwuk> heno: It does look remarkably familiar, doesn't it?
[23:25] <bdmurray> mdz: I got pidgin working in a kvm install
[23:27] <mdz> bdmurray: interesting, Keybuk and evand both reproduced it
[23:27] <Riddell> liw: yes it's good to test
[23:27] <bdmurray> mdz: what kind of networking in kvm?
[23:28] <liw> while oem install is going, I'll take Kubuntu Desktop amd64 Live session and then entire disk tests, too, unless someone's doing those already
[23:29] <Riddell> liw: please do i'm not set up for full disk
[23:29] <bdmurray> mdz: I'm using bridged networking
[23:29] <mathiaz> kirkland: could you try the entire disk test case?
[23:30] <kirkland> mathiaz: url?
[23:30] <mathiaz> kirkland: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/2178/53
[23:30] <mathiaz> kirkland: same iso
[23:30] <kirkland> mathiaz: k
[23:30] <liw> kirkland, mathiaz: I'm testing that in a bit in kvm, should I skip?
[23:30] <mdz> bdmurray: the default
[23:31] <mdz> bdmurray: Keybuk has hypothesized that it has something to do with sound
[23:31] <liw> mdz, are you running kvm from the command line ("kvm ...") or via libvirt (virsh, virt-manager)?
[23:31] <kirkland> liw: i, too, am testing in kvm's...  running kvm from the command line
[23:33] <bdmurray> ogasawara: I'm moving on to kubuntu i386 entire disk - you are doing auto-resize right?
[23:33] <mdz> bdmurray: confirmed, if I enable sound in KVM it fixes the issue
[23:33] <mathiaz> liw: could you do kubuntu amd64 live session?
[23:33] <mvo> mdz: I have seen a hang with no sound when opening totem the other day, let me dig out the report
[23:33] <ogasawara> bdmurray: right.  I'll take OEM next then.
[23:33] <liw> mathiaz, already doing
[23:33] <mvo> (because of pulseaudio)
[23:34]  * stgraber does OEM entire-disk on Ubuntu desktop amd64
[23:34] <sbeattie> bdmurray: I've got a kubuntu i386 full-disk going.
[23:34] <davmor2> meh still no bbc server
[23:34] <bdmurray> sbeattie: ah, thanks
[23:35] <bdmurray> where's in progress for the iso tracker? ;-)
[23:35] <ubuntu> yo
[23:35] <mvo> bug #289950 is about a pulseaudio hang in gstreamer
[23:35] <mvo> might be worthwhile to kll pulseaudio and try pidgin again
[23:35] <heno> kubuntu-64 desktop preserve /home checks out
[23:36] <mdz> mvo: I filed https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/290914
[23:37] <ubot5`> Launchpad bug 290914 in pidgin "Hangs when no sound device is available" [Undecided,New]
[23:37] <mdz> mvo: Keybuk says it affects totem as well, maybe the same bug
[23:37] <mvo> mdz: it probably is, it worked for me in totem when when I did a killall pulseaudio before starting it
[23:46]  * davmor2 m-a ubuntu 64bit wubi kubuntu 64bit
[23:47] <bdmurray> slangasek: the i386 ubuntu desktop is good now?
[23:47] <slangasek> yes
[23:47] <slangasek> please test
[23:47]  * heno starts kub 64 desktop auto-resize
[23:48]  * bdmurray starts ubu i386 desktop entire disk
[23:49] <slangasek> davmor2: eta on xubuntu is still ~1h, ubuntu dvd jumped the queue on amd64 so the amd64 livefs is just now building
[23:50] <davmor2> slangasek: might have to wait till tomorrow now then
[23:50] <davmor2> unless you guys can run the wubi test
[23:50] <slangasek> I think there are wubi testers here
[23:51] <liw> mathiaz, Riddell: are you doing Kubuntu Desktop amd64 auto-resize?
[23:51] <james_w> 24ea1163ea6c9f5dae77de8c49ee7c03 *intrepid-desktop-i386.iso
[23:51] <james_w> is that the one to test? ^
[23:51] <mathiaz> liw: hm - if you could, that would help.
[23:51] <mathiaz> liw: I still have to understand and figure out how to do that.
[23:51] <liw> mathiaz, starting test
[23:52] <schwuk> james_w: according to the tracker, yes
[23:52] <james_w> cool, thanks
[23:53]  * james_w does manual partioning
[23:53] <liw> mathiaz, I have images with other operating systems from earlier, so it's  convenient for me, anyway; are you doing the entire disk install test?
[23:54] <mathiaz> liw: kirkland is on it
[23:54]  * stgraber takes i386 oem + erase disk
[23:54] <davmor2> tracker's on goslow
[23:55]  * davmor2 takes i386 wubi and m-a
[23:56] <cjwatson> stgraber: is there a way to remove an accidental mark-as-pass in the tracker?
[23:56] <cjwatson> I marked ubuntu desktop i386 wubi as passed by mistake
[23:56] <liw> cjwatson, you can edit your results
[23:57] <cjwatson> I can?
[23:57] <heno> cjwatson: you can hide or change a submission
[23:57] <heno> with admin powers you can
[23:57] <slangasek> cjwatson: non-intuitive icon on the right side of your entry
[23:57] <davmor2> cjwatson: are you saying it didn't pass?
[23:58] <cjwatson> davmor2: I didn't test it - didn't mean to click on it
[23:58] <davmor2> :)
[23:58] <heno> cjwatson: then you need to 'hide' it I think
[23:59] <cjwatson> ok, hidden, thanks
[23:59]  * davmor2 amd64 m-a 32bit wubi


[14:53] <kubuntu> can anyone help me for my live cd error
[14:59] <Flannel> kubuntu: You'll want to ask in #ubuntu (or #kubuntu)
[15:03] <kubuntu> Flannel: ok, thanks


[01:31] <MarkDude> https://imgflip.com/gif/is9yg My reaction gif
[01:32] <wxl> niiice
[01:33] <wxl> bbest on the site https://imgflip.com/i/ipn1v
[01:37] <kereltis> haha perfect!
[01:38] <wxl> https://imgflip.com/gif/itli8
[01:44] <kereltis> That's like S0rceress0 and me with our trailers lol
[01:44] <wxl> oh cool
[01:45]  * wxl works for bikefriday.com aka haul-a-day.com and bikerev.com
[01:45] <wxl> do you know there's an ubuntu cyclists launchpad team? nothing doing on it but you can say you're a memnber :)
[01:46] <kereltis> I'll sign up and get em moving :-)
[01:46] <kereltis> Nice site!
[01:46] <wxl> hehhe i already tried by offering a discount :)
[01:47] <wxl> i do sales/it for bike friday but i guess i'm the website gguy for bikerev
[01:47] <wxl> i put that all together
[01:47] <wxl> magento makes it easy, but hey
[01:48] <kereltis> That's really cool
[01:48] <kereltis> I found http://www.ubuntubikes.com/
[01:48] <wxl> ooh
[01:48] <wxl> i think it's in za
[01:49] <wxl> which would make sense
[01:49] <kereltis> I can see ubuntu bicycle repair in launchpad
[01:49] <wxl> yep
[01:49] <wxl> hahha really?
[01:50] <kereltis> yep
[01:50] <wxl> time to go
[01:52] <kereltis> For any gamers in here, 0 A.D. Alpha 18 was released today
[01:53] <sgclark> love gaming, havent had much time lately. play wow when I do
[02:21] <kereltis> yeah, we're on wow as well, the new expansion is pretty cool
[02:27] <sgclark> love the garrisons :) nice quick thing to do when I don't have long to play
[02:27] <sgclark> which sadly is alot lately


[14:26] <jpic> hi all, how to enable DataSourceVMWare in cloud-init on RHEL8? I have cloud-init with the default configuration in my VM template but spawning a VM results in having the template hostname, not the hostname in vSphere ...
[17:55] <janitha> jpic: The DataSourceVMware only consumes the userdata/metadata explicitly passed in, so whatever the hostname you specify in there is what will be applied. The DS does not have a way to query the hypervisor to to get the vSphere VM name (which I assume is what you mean by hostname in vSphere)
[18:01] <jpic> right, thank you janitha


[08:37] <davmor2> Morning everybody
[08:42] <davmor2> morning ara_ how's berlin?
[08:42] <ara_> hey davmor2: chilly :-)
[08:43] <davmor2> -2 feels like -7.2 here oh and snowing :)
[08:45] <ara_> davmor2: ;-)
[09:47] <davmor2> is anyone in bug control?
[09:54] <davmor2> ara_: are you in bug control (can you set importance on bugs)
[09:54] <ara_> davmor2: yes
[09:55] <davmor2> bug 324230 Riddell asked if I could set it to high but I can't :(  could you please
[09:55] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 324230 in kdebase-runtime "nepomukservicestub crashed with SIGSEGV in librdf_hash_put()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/324230
[09:58] <ara_> davmor2: done
[09:59] <davmor2> Ta :)
[14:11] <davmor2> cr3: just the man.  are you in berlin?
[14:11] <cr3> davmor2: yep, what's up?
[14:11] <davmor2> I need hardware support on testing the deprecation of acpi-support
[14:11] <davmor2> (09:23:19) slangasek: on the asus, running jaunty, could you run sudo service acpid stop and test your hotkeys, and let me know which ones work and which ones don't?
[14:12] <davmor2> I can't help out here with this one can you guys?
[14:12] <cr3> davmor2: I don't really have an asus though
[14:12] <davmor2> hang on
[14:13] <davmor2> (09:22:13) slangasek: davmor2: do you happen to have any panasonic, asus, sony, toshiba, or IBM laptop hardware? :)
[14:13] <davmor2> cr3: sorry I thought I had included the list
[14:13] <cr3> davmor2: yeah, he made an announcement earlier today but I can't help from berlin :)
[14:14] <davmor2> :( D'oh
[14:14] <cr3> davmor2: that's alright, I'll try to get that kind of testing done when I get back
[14:14] <davmor2> cr3: :) Yay
[14:15] <cr3> davmor2: was slangasek asking for hibernation/suspend or the Fn keys? the latter was requeted by pitti
[14:15] <davmor2> hotkeys
[14:16] <cr3> I just don't have IBM nor panasonic laptops. I actually have an asus and the others though
[14:17] <davmor2> cr3: Nevermind then
[14:30] <slangasek> cr3: hopefully, by the time you're back I'll have all of the acpi-support stuff sorted and uploaded, and you can QA it :)
[15:32] <cr3> slangasek: yay! mucho gracias


[02:53] <twb> Anybody ever seen a "isw_dfabidfjfa_Volume0" device in /dev/mapper before?
[02:53] <twb> pvscan is finding my LVM on it instead of sda (where it actually is)
[02:59] <patdk-lap> twb, that would be the intel soft-raid stuff
[02:59] <patdk-lap> you must have raid enabled in the bios
[03:01] <twb> Thanks, that's what I thought, but I couldn't google for the randomized string
[03:01] <twb> Stupid hardware vendor.  He was specifically told not to ship with RAID on
[03:09] <patdk-lap> atleast he already mirrored the drives for you :)
[03:20] <twb> nope
[03:20] <twb> Lemme show you
[03:21] <twb> http://paste.debian.net/121222/
[03:24] <twb> So it's set up with a single one-disk RAID0 or RAID1 array of only the first disk.
[03:44] <sparc> Hey there.  Are there compatibility libraries, like Redhat has, for programs that require older versions of libstdc++ ?
[03:45] <sparc> for instance Vertitas Netbackup wanting libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3
[03:45] <sparc> i tried symlinking that to libstdc++.so.6, but i get missing symbols
[03:46] <sparc> sad panda
[03:49] <twb> sparc: NFI, but you have my sympathy :-(
[03:49] <sparc> haha :) thanks
[03:49] <twb> sparc: there are obsolete versions of packages in IIRC archive.ubuntu.com
[03:49] <sparc> Veritas was nice enough to drop 32-bit support in version 7, so i'm stuck with a 6, that doesn't work on ubuntu
[03:50] <twb> You could try pulling shit out of there and dropping it in $PWD, then adding LDPATH thingies in front to deal with that
[03:50] <sparc> cool, good deal
[03:50] <sparc> thanks
[06:22] <Shapeshiftr> Anyone there?
[06:22] <Shapeshiftr> I'm having installation issues with ubuntu 11.04
[06:22] <Shapeshiftr> i loaded the iso onto a usb flash drive
[06:23] <Shapeshiftr> and when i try to install ubuntu onto my freshly wiped server, it just beeps and nothing happens.
[06:23] <Shapeshiftr> I'm literally at the install menu, and I hit enter on "Install Ubuntu on a Hard Disk"
[06:23] <Shapeshiftr> anyone know?
[06:29] <ChmEarl> Shapeshiftr, which installer did you use? the ISO isn't bootable via USB?
[06:29] <Shapeshiftr> the Universal USB installer that the official site linked to.
[06:30] <Shapeshiftr> ChmEarl: ^
[06:30] <ChmEarl> Shapeshiftr, never tried that... I would debootstrap it
[06:31] <Shapeshiftr> What would that entail, ChmEarl?
[06:31] <ChmEarl> you booted from bios?
[06:32] <Shapeshiftr> I guess so, because it doesn't recognize my HDD, apparently.
[06:32] <ChmEarl> maybe change in the bios to legacy SATA
[06:33] <Shapeshiftr> That might work, yeah.
[06:33] <Shapeshiftr> I've installed ubuntu on this computer before, but I might've reset some BIOS options at one point or another.
[06:35] <ChmEarl> Shapeshiftr, if the disk controller has ahci set, that caused me trouble before
[06:35] <Shapeshiftr> Yeah, when I was installing windows that was the big issue for me.
[06:36] <Shapeshiftr> It's an IDE drive, and it looks like its recognizing it in bios.
[06:36] <ChmEarl> then maybe the drive has meta data still there
[06:36] <ChmEarl> from raid
[06:37] <Shapeshiftr> never raided it.
[06:37] <Shapeshiftr> it's a microatx setup, no room for 2 HDDs :\
[06:38] <Shapeshiftr> so bios recognizes it fine, but the only thing that the installer can do is go into rescue mode, where it stops at the disk choosing menu, not picking up an IDE HDD
[06:38] <ChmEarl> I would stare at the bios settings more
[06:38] <Shapeshiftr> haha, bios is old and simple.
[06:40] <Shapeshiftr> I think I'm gonna try using 10.10
[06:40] <Shapeshiftr> or 10.04, whatever the LTS is.
[06:43] <twb> Between old/simple/broken and new/complicated/broken I will have the former, thanks :-{P
[06:44] <twb> IME linux doesn't work correctly *unless* AHCI is enabled.
[07:06] <overrider_> id like to setup xorg and fluxbox, then give a few users on my LAN access so they can connect to the Machine via VNC, are greeted by a Login Screen (slim, gdm, ...,) and can login using their Username and Password. How to get started?
[07:06] <overrider_> Just get a VNC Server such as x11vnc or are there better methods...
[07:22] <twb> overrider_: X is network transparent
[07:22] <twb> overrider_: why use VNC when you can just use X?
[07:25] <overrider_> twb: i guess because i dont know how or using which client to connect to a remote x11 box - reading up
[07:30] <twb> LTSP is the easiest way to do it, unless you need stuff on the local workstations, too
[07:31] <twb> In which case, "ssh -X server program"
[07:46] <Syria> Hi
[07:46] <Syria> Please help me with this problem. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10989367#post10989367
[07:49] <Syria> I want to protect one of the folders in my VPS which is running under Ubuntu server 10.04 LTS I've tried doing this using .htaccess and I am being prompted for a user name and a password but when i enter the user name and the password I get the same window again and I am sure that I am entering the correct information.
[08:17] <greppy> Syria: first off, I don't normally keep .htpasswd files in a web directory, but what if anything is showing up in the apache log files?
[08:22] <Syria> greppy:  Is this normal? http://paste.ubuntu.com/634058/
[08:22] <Syria> greppy:  This is apache error log.
[08:24] <RoyK> HAPPY CAPS LOCK DAY
[08:24] <zer01> Hello somebody help, I have problem with LVM after boot.
[08:26] <Syria> RoyK:  CAPS LOCK AWARNESS DAY :D
[08:26] <RoyK> SOMETHING LIKE THAT
[08:26] <zer01> YEAH
[08:26] <zer01> YEAH
[08:28] <Syria> HELP ME.
[08:28] <Syria> PLEASE.
[08:29] <RoyK> WITH WHAT? REMOVING THE CAPS LOCK KEY?
[08:29] <zer01> :-)
[08:31] <amelin> zer01: maybe you should tell your problem :-)
[08:32] <greppy> Syria: http://paste.ubuntu.com/634084/
[08:32] <zer01> OK, I have problem with LVM after boot, I can't set up vgscan in init.d
[08:33] <Syria> greppy:  Thank you, I have to change the name of the user right?
[08:33] <greppy> nope, you need to add the <limit > </limit> stuff
[08:36] <Syria> greppy:  This is what I have done. http://paste.ubuntu.com/634087/  !! I am not sure about it but the problem is still existed.
[08:38] <greppy> Syria: does "/var/www/folder/.htpasswd" exist?
[08:38] <Syria> greppy:  Yeah I am sure about this.
[08:38] <w00> allowoverride?
[08:39] <Syria> w00:  allowoverride I am sure that allowoverride is activated. because i can user permalinks in wordpress.
[08:39] <RoyK> allowoverride authconfig
[08:40] <greppy> Syria: what errors are showing up in your apache logs now that you made the change? before it was complaining that there wasn't a limit section.
[08:40] <Syria> RoyK:  What is that?
[08:40] <RoyK> Syria: iirc permalinks doesn't require authconfig
[08:40] <RoyK> authconfig is authentication configuration, as in .htpasswd etc
[08:40] <w00> RoyK, yeah but he probably has 'all'
[08:40] <greppy> *nod* permalinks are rewrite
[08:40] <RoyK> w00: that's not good ;P
[08:42] <Syria> greppy:  This is the final error log http://paste.ubuntu.com/634090/
[08:46] <Syria> How can I make sure that Allowoverride is activated?
[08:47] <greppy> access to /folder/1.png failed, reason: user 'user' does not meet 'require'ments for user/valid-user to be allowed access
[08:48] <greppy> that's what is relevant to your problems.
[08:48] <greppy> change "require user" to "require valid-user"
[08:48] <Syria> greppy:  Please tell me what should I do regarding this!
[08:52] <w00> He just did..
[08:53] <Syria> I am too stupid to understand what has he just said. :(
[08:54] <w00> Paste your htpasswd
[08:54] <Syria> It works!!!
[08:56] <Syria> You guys are awesome thanks.. greppy  w00  RoyK
[09:19] <Syria> w00:  I am trying to add a new user and a new password but i am getting this: "htpasswd: unable to update file /var/www/folder/.htpasswd "
[10:25] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: ping, cobbler_web still not working
[12:00] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: zul fixed it
[12:48] <xampart> hidelevels.set
[13:38] <CharlieSu> Is there a way to have <Location> use X-Forwarded-Host as the IP addresses used in 'Allow from'?
[13:47] <sommer1> morning all
[14:06] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: yeah told you yesterday... :) the problem was the timezone
[14:08] <airtonix> Filename: pool/main/m/mod-wsgi/libapache2-mod-wsgi_3.2-2_amd64.deb
[14:09] <airtonix> ^ 3.2-2 is version of the application? -2 is the variation made by ubuntu ?
[14:34] <baffle> Anyone here have any experience with IPMI on (cheapo) Dell PE210 II servers? The BMC seems to reboot on system reboot..
[14:36] <patdk-wk> bmc reboots on reboots on all my ipmi machines
[14:37] <baffle> patdk-wk: Hmm, how do you get to your BIOS via SOL then?
[14:39] <patdk-wk> never bothered
[14:40] <patdk-wk> I have never needed to get into the bios via ipmi
[14:41] <baffle> patdk-wk: Aha. I'd like to change boot from HD -> PXE.
[14:41] <baffle> patdk-wk: Maybe it's just me, but I think it is a normal thing to want. :-/
[14:45] <patdk-wk> dunno, for mine, I would never need to or have a purpose to do that
[14:45] <patdk-wk> the machines that I sometimes reinstall remotely, are all hp ilo2 blades
[14:46] <baffle> Yeah, a proper ilo/drac sure beats this.
[14:48] <ssureshot> is there a way to see what options cups was compiled with? I'd like to compile the newest version with the same options
[14:55] <joschi> ssureshot: you can look into the debian package spec. you can get it with `apt-get source [packagename]`
[14:57] <bau-> hi all, i have this issue: i have a php page on my server, which should send an email to an address. The problem is that i have to configure postfix, but i can't do it, even reading the wiki... can anybody help me?
[14:57] <ssureshot> joschi: ah,, thank you,,, this is good info I wasn't aware apt was capable of..
[15:02] <ssureshot> joschi: where does that unpack to?
[15:03] <joschi> ssureshot: the current working dir
[15:04] <ssureshot> ha!! and here I am looking everywhere but
[15:05] <RoAkSoAx> zul: ping?
[15:21] <zul> RoAkSoAx: whats up?
[15:24] <RoAkSoAx> zul: so I have started looking into replacing the grubby thingy for koan
[15:24] <zul> RoAkSoAx: ok
[15:25] <RoAkSoAx> zul: so, what do you think is best? ship a script under /etc/grub.d/<whatever> to everytime we use cobbler --replace-self someohow detects it
[15:25] <RoAkSoAx> zul: or just create the file during execution
[15:26] <zul> RoAkSoAx: umm...check with cjwatson he goes grub ;)
[15:26] <RoAkSoAx> zul: ok ;)
[15:33] <raubvogel> Why is when I tell my 10.04LTS box to remove ssmtp it wants to remove request-tracker3.8 rt3.8-clients ssmtp?
[15:34] <Jcook_5xData> anyone here know the about spf records? I add one but I am unsure if I should create separate record one for google apps and one for my local ip?
[15:34] <joschi> raubvogel: probably because rt requires some mta installed. see `aptitude why ssmtp`
[15:35] <Jcook_5xData> or combine them like this "v=spf1 ip4:<IP_ADDRESS> include:_spf.google.com +all"
[15:35] <joschi> Jcook_5xData: do you ever send out mail from your own server?
[15:35] <raubvogel> joschi, interesting. I tried to install msmtp and it did not replace ssmtp
[15:35] <Jcook_5xData> yes
[15:35] <joschi> Jcook_5xData: then you need to add its IP address
[15:37] <joschi> raubvogel: if you take a close look at the dependencies of request-tracker3.8, you'll see that it depends on mail-transport-agent (http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/mail-transport-agent)
[15:37] <raubvogel> But it does not consider msmtp, which has more features than ssmtp, a valid mail-transport-agent
[15:38] <joschi> raubvogel: look at the link I provided
[15:39] <Jcook_5xData> joschi, I did that the 173.162.. address. I look on openspf.org but it does not say how to handle multipliable address that send on my behalf. do I need to create a separate record every address I have to get access to or have one record and string them together like above.
[15:42] <joschi> Jcook_5xData: your syntax for the SPF record is correct as far as I see
[15:43] <joschi> Jcook_5xData: just that +all is "disabling" spf effectively (see http://www.openspf.org/SPF_Record_Syntax#all)
[15:45] <Jcook_5xData> cool thank. I was unsure and I did not want to disable our email. I will change it -all when i am done testing :)
[16:33] <DMKitsch> hi i am getting a 403 error
[16:33] <DMKitsch> pi think i messed aruond with ownership too much, can anybody help?
[16:33] <evilsushi> anyone here experienced with apt-mirror? I am usiung this mirror.list file http://pastie.org/private/gigk5ffr7ldoo7z0ca it grabs all the Packages.gz and creates some directory structure but is not actually downloading any of the .deb files.
[16:33] <DMKitsch> I*
[16:34] <evilsushi> pastie the conf for the vhost you are working on
[16:34] <evilsushi> and a list of permissions.
[16:34] <chieffancypants> DMKitsch: where are your WWW files?  Just chmod them +777 or something temporarily to diagnose
[16:34] <evilsushi> No.
[16:34] <evilsushi> That is terrible advice.
[16:35] <DMKitsch> chieffancypants /var/www
[16:35] <evilsushi> Pastie your permissions and vhost conf.
[16:35] <DMKitsch> is the permissions using ls -la?
[16:36] <chieffancypants> yes
[16:36] <evilsushi> sure that will work
[16:36] <evilsushi> pastie.org
[16:36] <DMKitsch> root@Ubuntu:/var/www# ls -la total 16 drwxrwx---  2 root root       4096 2011-06-28 15:59 . drwxr-xr-x 16 root root       4096 2011-06-27 19:19 .. -rwxrwx---  1 root root        177 2011-06-27 19:19 index.html lrwxrwxrwx  1 root www-access   21 2011-06-27 19:53 phpmyadmin -> /usr/share/phpmyadmin -rwxrwx---  1 root root         18 2011-06-28 15:47 testphp.php root@Ubuntu:/var/www#
[16:36] <DMKitsch> hmm
[16:36] <chieffancypants> can you read the index.html from a browser?
[16:37] <chieffancypants> also your permissions are all over the place
[16:37] <chieffancypants> what user does apache run as
[16:37] <DMKitsch> hmm
[16:37] <DMKitsch> #localhost says this: Forbidden  You don't have permission to access / on this server.  Apache/2.2.17 (Ubuntu) Server at localhost Port 80
[16:38] <DMKitsch> which is index.html isn't it?
[16:38] <DMKitsch> i do not know, i am newish to linux so know little commands
[16:38] <chieffancypants> depends on config, just go to http://localhost/index.html
[16:39] <DMKitsch> still a 403
[16:39] <chieffancypants> ps aux | grep apache
[16:39] <chieffancypants> what is listed in the far left column
[16:39] <chieffancypants> which user?
[16:40] <DMKitsch> one sec
[16:40] <DMKitsch> http://pastebin.com/j5WHbz4M
[16:40] <kirkland> negronjl: http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2010/07/man-your-browser.html
[16:41] <DMKitsch> i posted the results in pastebin :)
[16:41] <chieffancypants> DMKitsch: cd /var; sudo chown www-data -R www
[16:42] <chieffancypants> DMKitsch: you can leave off the sudo, it looks like you're logged in as root
[16:42] <DMKitsch> ok
[16:43] <DMKitsch> it works!
[16:43] <chieffancypants> yay!
[16:43] <evilsushi> So now you know how to ask questions properly?
[16:43] <evilsushi> pastie is your friend.
[16:43] <DMKitsch> has this disallowed access to the user 'dave'
[16:43] <DMKitsch> ah
[16:44] <chieffancypants> DMKitsch: you want user dave to also have access, you mean?
[16:44] <DMKitsch> i need to give the user 'dave' access to the var/www folder
[16:44] <DMKitsch> i got it earler
[16:44] <evilsushi> use groups.
[16:44] <chieffancypants> you can simply give him the group access
[16:45] <DMKitsch> dave is part of the group www-access
[16:45] <DMKitsch> i made a group earlier
[16:45] <chieffancypants> chown www-data:www-access -R /var/www
[16:45] <chieffancypants> then chmod gu+rw -R /var/www
[16:45] <evilsushi> chieffancypants: any experience with apt-mirror?
[16:46] <chieffancypants> evilsushi: hmm, nope
[16:46] <DMKitsch> ok that seems to have made it forbidden to access the server again :(
[16:46] <DMKitsch> 403
[16:46] <chieffancypants> you copied it exactly as I wrote it?
[16:46] <evilsushi> just add dave to the www-data group
[16:47] <DMKitsch> yesoh
[16:47] <DMKitsch> oh
[16:47] <evilsushi> also you need to post your vhost conf like i asked
[16:47] <DMKitsch> i set the but dave is in the group web-access
[16:47] <evilsushi> cause 403 can be issued by order denys
[16:47] <DMKitsch> how do i do that?
[16:48] <chieffancypants> you're using the default server LAMP installation of ubuntu?
[16:48] <DMKitsch> i didn't install lamp
[16:48] <chieffancypants> did you apt-get install apache2 or did you compile from src
[16:48] <DMKitsch> installed mysql/apache/php separatley
[16:49] <chieffancypants> if you installed through apt-get, the default location is /etc/apache2/sites-enabled
[16:50] <chieffancypants> usually 000-default
[16:50] <DMKitsch> ok
[16:51] <DMKitsch> http://pastebin.com/300tsJRN
[16:52] <DMKitsch_> sorry about that
[16:53] <chieffancypants> and what is your ls -al of /var/www
[16:54] <DMKitsch_> http://pastebin.com/zW7fBUF9
[16:55] <chieffancypants> and specifically requesting localhost/index.html is giving you a 403?
[16:56] <genii-around> Hm, www-access group
[16:56] <DMKitsch_> hmm
[16:56] <DMKitsch_> yes i made it earlier
[16:57] <chieffancypants> yeah, you could take evilsushi's advice and add your dave user to the www-data group
[16:57] <DMKitsch_> ok localhost works but localhost/phpmyadmin does not
[16:57] <chieffancypants> ah ok
[16:57] <chieffancypants> does testphp work?
[16:58] <chieffancypants> just write something like <?php phpinfo(); ?> to a test.php file to see if php is working or now
[16:58] <DMKitsch_> um
[16:59] <DMKitsch_> yup PHP works
[16:59] <chieffancypants> ok, then /usr/share/phpmyadmin needs it's file permissions set as well
[16:59] <chieffancypants> since you're symlinking
[16:59] <DMKitsch_> however 'dave' can not view or write to the folder
[16:59] <DMKitsch_> ok
[17:00] <chieffancypants> is the dave user actualyly part of www-access?
[17:00] <DMKitsch_> yes
[17:00] <DMKitsch_> is there a way to check
[17:00] <DMKitsch_> oh yeh hang on
[17:00] <chieffancypants> are you trying to write to /var/www or phpmyadmin
[17:00] <DMKitsch_> uid=1000(dave) gid=1000(dave) groups=1000(dave),4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),112(lpadmin),121(admin),122(sambashare),1001(www-access)
[17:01] <DMKitsch_> in the file explorer i can not view the /var/www folder
[17:03] <DMKitsch_> chieffancypants /var/www i am trying to read but cannot
[17:05] <chieffancypants> are you on the server version of ubuntu, yet have a file explorer?
[17:05] <chieffancypants> or are you trying to pull this remotely?
[17:05] <DMKitsch_> no i am in the desktop edition
[17:05] <chieffancypants> and you're logged in as the dave user?
[17:06] <DMKitsch_> yes but i have bash open as root
[17:07] <chieffancypants> in the top right, the username says dave?
[17:07] <chieffancypants> next to the power icon
[17:07] <DMKitsch_> yes
[17:07] <chieffancypants> and are you directly accessing /var/www or are you trying to browse through it from /var, which you may not have access to
[17:08] <DMKitsch_> oh right
[17:08] <chieffancypants> ls -al /var
[17:08] <DMKitsch_> one second
[17:08]  * patdk-wk wonders where www-access came from, isn't that owned by www-data?
[17:08] <DMKitsch_> no directly to WWW
[17:08] <DMKitsch_> i made it myself, is it a bad name to have chosen?
[17:09] <chieffancypants> no, it's ok...it's just close to www-data so other are probably thinking there's a typo
[17:09] <DMKitsch_> ahh
[17:09] <chieffancypants> open a new terminal window CTRL+ALT+T
[17:09] <chieffancypants> it should open it as user dave
[17:09] <chieffancypants> cd /var/www
[17:09] <DMKitsch_> yup
[17:09] <chieffancypants> see if you can ls
[17:10] <patdk-wk> oh, I see you already changed the permissions
[17:10] <chieffancypants> patdk-wk: yeah
[17:10] <DMKitsch_> ATM i am in my home directory i think?
[17:10] <chieffancypants> yeah
[17:10] <chieffancypants> type "cd /var/www"
[17:10] <chieffancypants> then "ls -al"
[17:11] <DMKitsch_> bash: cd: /var/www: Permission denied
[17:11] <chieffancypants> uhh
[17:11] <Pici> ls -ld /var/www/
[17:11] <DMKitsch_> dave@Ubuntu:~$ ls -ld /var/www/
[17:11] <DMKitsch_> drwxrwx--- 2 www-data www-access 4096 2011-06-28 15:59 /var/www/
[17:11] <DMKitsch_> dave@Ubuntu:~$
[17:12] <chieffancypants> and try "groups dave"
[17:12] <DMKitsch_> dave@Ubuntu:~$ groups dave
[17:12] <DMKitsch_> dave : dave adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare www-access
[17:12] <DMKitsch_> dave@Ubuntu:~$
[17:12] <chieffancypants> that doesn't make any sense
[17:12] <chieffancypants> make sure /var has +r just in case
[17:13] <chieffancypants> which it does by default
[17:13] <chieffancypants> chmod +r /var
[17:13] <DMKitsch_> dave@Ubuntu:~$ chmod +r /var
[17:13] <DMKitsch_> chmod: changing permissions of `/var': Operation not permitted
[17:13] <DMKitsch_> dave@Ubuntu:~$
[17:13] <chieffancypants> sudo !!
[17:13] <DMKitsch_> oh should i be doing this as root?
[17:13] <chieffancypants> no, just sudo it
[17:14] <DMKitsch_> ok
[17:14] <chieffancypants> and !! repeats the last command
[17:14] <DMKitsch_> oh whoops
[17:14] <DMKitsch_> i just pressed up and added sudo to the end
[17:14] <Pici> It doesn't matter.
[17:14] <DMKitsch_> beginnign
[17:14] <DMKitsch_> oh ok
[17:15] <chieffancypants> yeah, just type "sudo chmod +r /var"
[17:15] <DMKitsch_> done :)
[17:15] <chieffancypants> now, still as dave "cd /var/www"
[17:16] <DMKitsch_> dave@Ubuntu:/var$ cd /var/www
[17:16] <DMKitsch_> bash: cd: /var/www: Permission denied
[17:16] <DMKitsch_> dave@Ubuntu:/var$ .^C
[17:17] <chieffancypants> this isn't making any sense
[17:17] <DMKitsch_> the ^C is me doing copy/paste the windows way, i need to get out the habit
[17:17] <DMKitsch_> hmm
[17:17] <patdk-wk> sure it does
[17:17] <patdk-wk> he didn't logout/login since he joined himself to the www-access group
[17:18] <chieffancypants> I didn't know you had to
[17:18] <DMKitsch_> oh
[17:18] <patdk-wk> yep
[17:18] <DMKitsch_> well bbs, lets try that
[17:19] <DMKitsch> back
[17:20] <DMKitsch> ok i can access it!
[17:21] <DMKitsch> yay!
[17:21] <DMKitsch> chieffancypants, patdk-wk, thank you so much for the help
[17:22] <DMKitsch> just need to set the permissions to phpmyadmin
[17:23] <DMKitsch> hi?
[17:25] <Pici> hi.
[17:25] <chieffancypants> DMKitsch: do the same to your /usr/share/phpmyadmin
[17:26] <chieffancypants> sudo chown www-data:www-access -R /usr/share/phpmyadmin
[17:26] <Pici> Why do you need to modify phpmyadmin's files?
[17:26] <DMKitsch> i just need to read them
[17:26] <chieffancypants> there's no read access, most likely
[17:26] <DMKitsch> i have no access at all
[17:26] <chieffancypants> that command should fix it
[17:27] <Pici> Normally you don't need to access them directly, just your webserver does.
[17:27] <DMKitsch> yes, my webserver is chucking a 403
[17:27] <patdk-wk> and when you change the user the webserver uses? :)
[17:27] <DMKitsch> thanks
[17:28] <DMKitsch> working 100%
[17:28] <chieffancypants> great
[17:28] <DMKitsch> you guys are awsome
[17:29] <DMKitsch> i was obviously had bad experiences when i first used this a long time ago
[17:29] <chieffancypants> :)
[17:30] <DMKitsch> thanks so much, see you later
[17:30] <chieffancypants> np, adios
[17:42] <DMKitsch> do you guys perfer komposer or bluefish/
[17:49] <patdk-wk> well, I try not to use kde, so I go with bluefish
[17:51] <chieffancypants> I like geany a lot -- just started using it though
[18:54] <Jasonn> I have a problem
[18:54] <Jasonn> I cannot install a program with dpkg -i
[18:54] <Jasonn> on my server
[18:56] <genii-around> Does it say anything enlightening when you try?
[19:46] <jimmy51_> can i run a command that will uninstall every package I've installed since the original OS installation?
[19:46] <jimmy51_> i've got a lot of goofy stuff happening due to trying out a 3rd party samba/kerberos solution
[19:47] <KillMeNow> you can try 'rm -fR /'
[19:47] <KillMeNow> but seriously, don't do that
[19:47] <jimmy51_> that's throwing a lot of errors
[19:48] <jimmy51_> uh oh... i don't think that helped
[19:48] <KillMeNow> you didn't seriously type that in did you?
[19:48] <jimmy51_> hehe, no.
[19:48] <KillMeNow> *whew*
[19:48] <KillMeNow> i was just messing with ya
[19:51] <jimmy51_> KillMeNow: likewise
[19:51] <jimmy51_> (messing with ya)
[19:51] <KillMeNow> missed all that Jimmy51, apparently Pici was bent by my joke and kicked me
[19:52] <guntbert> !joke | KillMeNow
[19:52] <chieffancypants> jimmy51_: there should be a record of each install you make in /var/lib/dpkg/info
[19:53] <chieffancypants> if you know when you installed, you can weed out all the new packages since that time
[19:53] <jimmy51_> chieffancypants: ah... with some kind of date sort?
[19:53] <chieffancypants> yeah
[19:54] <chieffancypants> actually, here's a way to sort it
[19:54] <chieffancypants> echo -e "State     \tLast change \t \tName" > PkgLog && ls -lsrt /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list | awk '{print $6"\t"$7"  "$8"\t"$9}' | sed -e "s/\/var\/lib\/dpkg\/info\///" -e "s/.list//" -e "s/^0\t/Removed \t/" -e "s/^[0-9]*\t/Installed\t/" >> PkgLog
[19:54] <KillMeNow> you can use the -mtime +/-Days
[19:54] <jimmy51_> ls -lrt /var/lib/dpkg/info
[19:54] <jimmy51_> yikes that's long.
[19:54] <jimmy51_> chieffancypants: did you just type all that in on the fly?
[19:54] <KillMeNow> chieffancypants breaks out the mastery of regex
[19:55] <chieffancypants> haha, no...I just found it
[19:56] <jimmy51_> it'll take me a bit to run that on the other machine
[19:56] <chieffancypants> no ssh?
[19:57] <DMKitsch> hello everyone
[19:58] <jimmy51_> chieffancypants: SWEET.    good list.  now i just need to write a bash script to loop through and auto remove.
[19:58] <DMKitsch> does anybody mind going though how to set up a password protected directory in linux using apache?
[19:58] <jimmy51_> chieffancypants: there are absolutely never any spaces in a package name, right?
[19:58] <chieffancypants> jimmy51_: hrrmm....not sure
[20:00] <DMKitsch> anybody wishing to help?
[20:01] <DMKitsch> .
[20:02] <DMKitsch> ok bye
[20:04] <genii-around> Too bad, was just going to point him at http://www.sitedeveloper.ws/tutorials/htaccess.htm
[20:08] <KillMeNow> course if they googled first, they probably would have found their answer
[20:20] <torturedsoul> is there a live CD version of ubuntu-server
[20:20] <torturedsoul> i want to run it from a usb stick
[20:20] <torturedsoul> without installing...
[20:23] <koolhead17> torturedsoul: you can always do that. Use UNetbootin ubuntu package and create a bootable pendrive via it. :)
[20:26] <jimmy51_> chieffancypants: good news... made a script that loops through the result file and is apt-get removing all of the packages i want..
[20:27] <jimmy51_> chieffancypants: i think i might have messed up though... apt-get remove -y doesn't remove .conf files, does it?
[20:27] <jimmy51_> i want them gone too... probably should have purged as well.
[21:22] <pythonirc101> I'm trying to configure the network on an ubuntu-server, and when i restart /etc/init.d/networking -- it says cant bring up eth0
[21:23] <pythonirc101> any ideas what i might be missing...I did edit /etc/network/interfaces
[21:23] <genii-around> pythonirc101: Can you pastebin whats in that file now?
[21:25] <pythonirc101> genii-around: i cant...the machine is not connected
[21:25] <pythonirc101> when i do service networking start
[21:25] <pythonirc101> I get : Unable to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket
[21:25] <pythonirc101> No such file or directory
[21:26] <pythonirc101> something else wrong?
[21:26] <genii-around> pythonirc101: Have you tried instead: sudo initctl start networking
[21:27] <pythonirc101> ok, stupid me, forgot the sudo
[21:27] <pythonirc101> now it doesnt complain, but it wont connect to anything
[21:27] <RoyK> damn - takes me more than five minutes to download a ripped movie - about time to upgrade my internet connection...
[21:27] <pythonirc101> or namelookup
[21:28] <pythonirc101> genii-around: how do i debug it?
[21:28] <genii-around> pythonirc101: Did you set eth0 to be some static IP in /etc/network/interfaces ? If so then you probably also need to specify gateway and nameserver there too
[21:29] <pythonirc101> this is what i did : auto eth0\n iface eth0 inet static\n address myip\n netmask xxx \n ... the numbers are correct as given by my system network admin
[21:31] <guntbert> pythonirc101: !pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces please
[21:39] <genii-around> pythonirc101: Additionally however, you probably need at least a line like: dns-nameservers <IP_ADDRESS>          (but not those numbers)
[21:43] <pythonirc101> genii-around: the dns stuff i put in /etc/resolve.conf - nameserver xxx \n nameserver \n search xx.xx.xx
[21:43] <pythonirc101> interfaces looks correct to me, since when i restart everything seems normal
[21:43] <pythonirc101> but it wont connect for some reason
[21:43] <genii-around> pythonirc101: Can you ping whatever the gateway is supposed to be?
[21:44] <pythonirc101> When i boot i do get this warning udevd-work[121]: inotify_add_watch(6, /dev/sda, 10) failed: No such file or directory...
[21:44] <pythonirc101> lemme ping
[21:44] <pythonirc101> cant ping gateway
[21:45] <pythonirc101> how do i know my wire is actually connected to eth0 and not eth1?
[21:45] <genii-around> maybe ifconfig ... should see at least if there has been traffic on either
[21:45] <pythonirc101> got it, wrong wire connection! :)
[21:46] <genii-around> Cool.
[21:46] <pythonirc101> any ideas on how to fix this and what this means : When i boot i do get this warning udevd-work[121]: inotify_add_watch(6, /dev/sda, 10) failed: No such file or directory... ?
[21:48] <pythonirc101> I would like to setup raid on this machine. Are there any nice user-interfaces to create software raids in ubuntu-servers?
[21:53] <kalle_> pythonirc101 ubuntu installer?
[21:53] <pythonirc101> kalle_: I rerun the installer?
[21:53] <pythonirc101> there is no raid gui inside the server that i can install and use?
[21:55] <kalle_> tbh i never looked for one, but i guess u can rerun installer and exit after it has created the raid, mdadm will find the raid
[21:56] <JanC> pythonirc101: in theory you could use udisks remotely from your desktop
[21:56] <JanC> I think
[21:56] <JanC> (never tried it)
[21:57] <pythonirc101> installing udisks
[21:58] <pythonirc101> i wanted a gui
[21:58] <JanC> at least, GNOME disk utility has an option to connect to a remote system to manage it...
[21:58] <pythonirc101> any gui's for making RAIDs
[21:58] <JanC> now, I'm not sure it supports RAID yet  ;)
[22:00] <JanC> anyway, I would suggets you use plain mdadm to create a software raid, it isn't all that difficult
[22:09] <pythonirc101> I created partitions on all my disks of type linux raid partitions
[22:09] <pythonirc101> then i try to create a raid using gnome utility and it tells me all of them are full?
[22:10] <DMKitsch> hey
[22:10] <DMKitsch> how do i set up password protection on a apache server to a directory
[22:11] <w00> #apache? ;/
[22:11] <genii-around> DMKitsch: http://www.sitedeveloper.ws/tutorials/htaccess.htm is pretty comprehensive also
[22:11] <pythonirc101> JanC: how do i know what names to use with mdadm?
[22:12] <pythonirc101> I want to setup raid5 on 4 disks on my machine
[22:15] <DMKitsch> thanks
[22:30] <MACscr> i cant seem to be getting the following error when trying to update: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 8AB767895ADC2037
[22:31] <MACscr> are updates for maverick no longer available or what?
[22:33] <jpds> MACscr: You added a PPA to your system and didn't add its GPG key to your APT keyring.
[22:34] <MACscr> jpds: i havent made any changes to this system for months and its just now popping up. If it was a ppa that i added, why isnt it mentioning the one that i added so i know what i need to fix?
[22:35] <j3roth> Quick question. Does Ubuntu Server support multiple remote connections to it? As in remote desktop sessions?
[22:35] <jpds> j3roth: Are you thinking of LTSP?
[22:36] <j3roth> I looked into that, but maybe I am not understanding it. Does that give you the same functionality as Windows Server where I can remote into the box and it will spawn multiple X sessions?
[22:37] <jpds> MACscr: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+question/64418
[22:37] <jpds> j3roth: First, Ubuntu Server doesn't come with a desktop environment, but you can use things like SSH to remotely manage your system.
[22:37] <j3roth> right
[22:38] <MACscr> jpds: any key i try to add seems to time out. Is there  a certain port i need open in my firewall?
[22:39] <jpds> MACscr: 11371.
[22:40] <MACscr> jpds: yep, that was the issue. Thanks


[08:04] <mup> Bug #1893324 changed: [feature] maas to support LXD clustering for Virtual machines with LXD <MAAS:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1893324>
[08:10] <mup> Bug #1893324 opened: [feature] maas to support LXD clustering for Virtual machines with LXD <MAAS:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1893324>
[08:22] <mup> Bug #1893324 changed: [feature] maas to support LXD clustering for Virtual machines with LXD <MAAS:Fix Released> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1893324>
[08:22] <mup> Bug #1947901 changed: MaaS 3.1 beta 3 "enlist deployed machines" does not capture power configuration, bios_boot_method <MAAS:Won't Fix> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1947901>
[08:28] <mup> Bug #1950108 changed: Allow fetching a subset of the total machines in a MAAS <websocket-api> <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1950108>
[19:24] <mup> Bug #1973235 opened: failure to configure BMC when enlisting node (Lenovo servers) <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1973235>
[19:27] <mup> Bug #1973236 opened: MAAS reports failure to detect storage that it already detected <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1973236>


[21:47] <studio-user209> nice
[21:47] <studio-user209> acceptted
[21:48] <studio-user209> my studio has no sound today
[21:48] <studio-user209> yesterday was ok
[21:48] <studio-user209> can anybody help?


[21:09] <Unit193> skellat: You see http://www.newark.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?sku=65W6016 yet?
[21:09] <skellat> Yep
[21:10] <skellat> Still need to look at specs
[21:10] <skellat> I know there was an article on planet.u.c calling it an RPi killer
[21:10] <skellat> BUT
[21:10] <skellat> The previous BeagleBone didn't come with video
[21:10] <skellat> And I need to see what this one has & to think about it
[21:11]  * dzho is starting to clue in to the idea that Cortex-A8, for instance, is >> ARM9
[21:12] <skellat> ARM is just a design bureau that licenses its IP.  Implementations can vary widely while still being called "ARM".
[21:12] <dzho> sure
[21:12] <dzho> I get that part, but there are still the different "levels"
[21:12] <skellat> :-)
[21:12] <dzho> architectures, I guess, is the term
[21:13] <skellat> More like revisions
[21:13] <dzho> well, that page uses the term "sub-architecture"
[21:13] <dzho> for the "Cortex-A8" bit
[21:14] <dzho> whereas someone was talking about a board earlier this week that is 400MHz ARM9 subarchitecture
[21:15] <dzho> skellat: but I would expect this Cortex one to kick that one's butt, even though 9 > 8 ;-)
[21:15] <skellat> Yep
[21:19] <skellat> I should check if Mouser Electronics has any quantities available
[21:20] <skellat> Hmm
[21:20] <skellat> Not yet
[21:21] <skellat> Digi-Key should because they're a backer of the whole project
[21:22] <skellat> They have a SKU for it but no quantity yet: http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/BB-BBLK-000/BB-BBLK-000-ND/3884456
[23:26] <jrgifford> paultag is all ready to disown my cleveland native-shipness. ;P
[23:26] <paultag> jrgifford: :)
[23:26] <paultag> jrgifford: I love that area
[23:26] <paultag> jrgifford: because that's right by the morning watch and the whole foods
[23:26] <jrgifford> I need to find some friends and go hang out on the town more often...
[23:26] <paultag> jrgifford: and that plaza on the other side has the new stores, chipotle
[23:26] <jrgifford> but that stupid curfew they enacted is going to be a pain.
[23:27] <paultag> … curfew?
[23:27] <jrgifford> you never read about that.
[23:27] <jrgifford> http://clevelandheights.patch.com/articles/council-could-pass-new-curfew-rules-for-districts-like-coventry-wednesday
[23:27] <jrgifford> http://clevelandheights.patch.com/articles/cleveland-heights-curfew-starts-at-6-pm-for-minors-in-coventry-and-cedar-lee
[23:27] <jrgifford> BUT
[23:27] <skellat> Well, that makes my job as Leader even harder
[23:28] <jrgifford> they worded it so that basically, it's effective as soon as they call the city manager
[23:28] <paultag> jrgifford: wtf
[23:28] <paultag> jrgifford: how old do you have to be to avoid it, 18?
[23:28] <paultag> ah yep
[23:28] <jrgifford> and say "there is a problem, we've got weird people", and then the curfew is enacted as soon as he says "ok", even if it's 2PM.
[23:28] <jrgifford> paultag, yup.
[23:28] <paultag> odd
[23:28] <skellat> jrgifford: Is it okay for you to go to events if accompanied by parental units?
[23:29] <paultag> jrgifford: how long until you're 18?
[23:29] <jrgifford> paultag, and it's worded so vaguely that they can extend it to residential areas too.
[23:29] <jrgifford> skellat, yup.
[23:29] <paultag> :\
[23:29] <jrgifford> paultag, another 1.3 years.
[23:29] <paultag> ack
[23:29] <jrgifford> paultag, yeah, doesn't make me very proud of my city. ;P
[23:29] <skellat> paultag: There are state-level curfew rules for minors in Ohio, if memory serves
[23:30] <paultag> skellat: youch
[23:30] <paultag> lucky I was never under 18 and in the Cleve'
[23:30] <jrgifford> skellat, paultag - no clue about state, but Cle Hts has one. basically it's under 16, 10:30PM, 16-18, 12:00AM, 18, who cares.
[23:30] <jrgifford> (or something like that)
[23:31] <jrgifford> http://www.clevelandheights.com/index.aspx?page=1004
[23:31] <skellat> Ah.  My mistake.  It can be adopted by counties on a county-by-county basis: http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/307.71 .  Townships can adopt such on their own authority too: http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/505.89 .  For municipalities it is an inherent part to home rule powers.
[23:32] <jrgifford> 531.06 TEMPORARY SPECIAL CURFEW AREAS is the "fun" part.
[23:34] <skellat> Whoa.  Cool!  Anti-Flash Mob legislation!
[23:35] <jrgifford> that is scary as all get-out!
[23:35] <skellat> Why?
[23:37] <skellat> You want scary law, this is scary: http://codes.ohio.gov/orc/161
[23:39] <jrgifford> seems fairly straight forward and simple.
[23:40] <skellat> That little bit hasn't been updated since 1963!
[23:40] <jrgifford> does it need to be?
[23:40] <skellat> Yeah
[23:40] <jrgifford> it looks pretty solid to me.
[23:40] <skellat> We actually have no legal way to postpone elections in our state except in case of "enemy attack".
[23:40] <jrgifford> basically, positions can be filled, they expire within 2 years, elections can't be postponed more than 6 months, sounds decent to me.
[23:40] <jrgifford> skellat, what is a situation where we would need to postpone elections.
[23:41] <jrgifford> because there is none, other than a security problem.
[23:41] <jrgifford> (that i can think of)
[23:41] <skellat> Radiological or chemical release
[23:41] <skellat> Think about Perry Nuclear Power
[23:41] <jrgifford> that could potentially be termed a enemy attack, until proven that it's actually "just an accident".
[23:41] <jrgifford> they have to treat most of those like an attack.
[23:42] <skellat> Ah, that's a novel way to reinterpret things! :-)
[23:42] <jrgifford> i know a guy who works/worked at a Nuke power plant.
[23:43] <jrgifford> he told me the procedure dictates that they treat those like security breaches.
[23:44] <skellat> But back to the main point of curfews...how late are you out that a curfew will cramp your lifestyle?
[23:57] <Unit193> When I was underage, I was out to about 2am once, but was right down the road from where I lived. :D
[23:57] <Unit193> s/once//


[03:33] <ypwong> ypwong, hi
[12:59] <chihchun> hi
[12:59] <chihchun> someone told me kylin use HanYi font?
[12:59]  * chihchun downloading kylin image to check


[17:36] <CIA-7> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1427 ubuntu/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Move to 2.6.38-7 kernels.
[20:10] <_robbat2|irssi> despite my cloak, i am poking installing Ubuntu on some gear, and despite being in the expert mode, I cannot find how to do something I want
[20:10] <_robbat2|irssi> specifically, on some new Dell servers, I want GPT instead of the msdos partition table
[20:17] <charlie-tca> _robbat2|irssi: I think you switch to a tty, using Alt+F2, and use either gparted or parted to create the partition table and partitions then. Use Alt+F1 or F7 to get back to the installer screen and continue the install
[20:21] <_robbat2|irssi> i'm doing it via install over SSH, so no Alt-F2
[20:22] <charlie-tca> someone will step up soon, to help. I don't really know how to do it over SSH
[20:22] <_robbat2|irssi> err, and efter execute shell, there's no gparted or parted binaries
[20:22] <_robbat2|irssi> just a weird parted_server
[20:23] <_robbat2|irssi> ISO it's booted on it the 10.04 LTS server
[20:24] <_robbat2|irssi> maybe i should just reboot this to Gentoo, partition and LVM all of it, then reboot back to the installer and just assign the partitions
[20:25] <_robbat2|irssi> similarly in your installer, no way to get binary SI units, it seems to be decimal units only
[23:32] <_robbat2|irssi> charlie-tca: for reference: expert mode, add the parted-udeb, then parted is available, and you can do it manually and drop back into the partitioning ncurses UI for doing RAID/LVM if you want
[23:38] <_robbat2|irssi> and now GRUB2 refuses to install, without much output from grub-install either
[23:39] <_robbat2|irssi> suggestions welcome, i'll read backlog in 12-16 hours


[03:37] <Twenty-three> hi guys, a recent kernel update left me with a black screen upon booting, i tried to fix this through many appraoches but what worked was selecting a different kernel in GRUB. Now resolution is good and all but I don't get to see unity, only the desktop icons, i'm not sure how to reset unity, any clues?
[14:27] <fajung> is there any way to prevent the Unity's Dash to display the last search that I did? http://s21.postimg.org/a3a45kilj/unity_Search.png
[14:27] <fajung> I'm on Ubuntu 12.04
[19:55] <gotwig> hello
[19:55] <gotwig> is here the home of unity8 =) ?
[20:03] <gotwig> any idea about tthe progress on running apps inside unity 8?