[07:24] <melodie_> Priyantha, good ! now do you have a file in /etc/X11 which has for a name "xorg.conf" ?
[07:24] <L3top> Priyantha: What exactly is the problem?
[07:24] <Priyantha> after running the nvidia-xconfig there is no statement in the xorg.conf with  pci bus id
[07:24] <melodie_> L3top, I was going to ask him,
[07:24] <Priyantha> yes I have ;)
[07:24] <Priyantha> the problem is as follows
[07:25] <Priyantha> when I am visiting websites or just opening programs
[07:25] <Priyantha> the screen wil flicker a lot
[07:25] <Priyantha> when I open for example this console(for irssi)
[07:25] <Priyantha> there is some transparancy going on then
[07:25] <Priyantha> BUT when I reboot my system
[07:25] <L3top> lspci -nn | grep VGA     please
[07:25] <Priyantha> I can see still that screen during the Bios POST
[07:26] <melodie_> Priyantha, this is probably coming from Flashplayer
[07:26] <Priyantha> and even during the grub screen
[07:26] <melodie_> each time I have viewed a flash video it does that in my machine
[07:26] <melodie_> Priyantha, and when I close the tab where the video is present, then it stops
[07:26] <melodie_> you might want to try
[07:26] <Priyantha> when I am waiting logn enough, the image disapears, it looks like Plasma retention
[07:27] <melodie_> Priyantha, did you read me ?
[07:27]  * L3top suspects Priyantha is correct about the framebuffer.
[07:27] <Priyantha> yes I did :)
[07:27] <melodie_> did you see L3top asking you a command line output ?
[07:27] <Priyantha> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF106 [Quadro 2000M] [10de:0dda] (rev a1)
[07:27] <Priyantha> Here it is :)
[07:27] <Priyantha> Yeah I do think it's with the framebuffer
[07:27] <Priyantha> I am quite technical myself ;) but it's so long ago I used Linux on a desktop
[07:28] <melodie_> L3top, Priyantha can you explain why the framebuffer, and not the flash videos ?
[07:28] <mbleigh> i can't seem to get my system recognizing grub as the bootloader
[07:28] <L3top> Priyantha: did you install nvidia-current or nvidia-current-updates?
[07:28] <Priyantha> Because melodie_ I didn't opened sites using Flash ;)
[07:28] <Priyantha> I tried both L3top
[07:28] <L3top> Because it is retaining BIOS post. This is something grabbing hold and not letting go from jump street
[07:28] <melodie_> Priyantha, good point
[07:29] <Priyantha> and even tried the newer nvidia drivers from the x-updates ppa
[07:29] <Priyantha> but that didn't solve it either
[07:29] <L3top> I would purge the nouveau driver from your system.
[07:29] <melodie_> Priyantha, did you try nouveau ?
[07:29] <melodie_> L3top, this is also a good idea
[07:29] <melodie_> either or
[07:29] <Priyantha> No I didn't EDawg878 :)
[07:30] <L3top> that card is pretty spankin new... I would go with the nvidia driver over nouveau... for a lot of reasons...
[07:30] <melodie_> Priyantha, try that ? and for the framebuffer you could modify the kernel command line in one of those numerous grub files, I am not sure which one
[07:30] <melodie_> ...
[07:30] <melodie_> going now...
[07:31] <ganesh_> can u switch kernal in burgback
[07:31] <Priyantha> apt-get remove --purge libdrm-nouveau2 xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[07:31] <Priyantha> Reading package lists... Done
[07:31] <ganesh_> back*
[07:31] <Priyantha> doing that now :)
[07:31] <L3top> then reboot please and see if you can reproduce the problem Priyantha.
[07:31] <Priyantha> yes I will :)
[07:31] <ganesh_> anyway i am installing a new kernal and i am using burg
[07:32] <Priyantha> I don't thing I am going to use the nouveau driver
[07:32] <Priyantha> that driver is still to much in development
[07:32] <ganesh_> so i was wondering if u can change ur kernal same like in grub2
[07:32] <auronandace> ganesh_: you should just stick with grub, burg isn't supported
[07:32] <Priyantha> going to alter /etc/default/grub to disable the splash shizzle
[07:32] <L3top> well... it is a losing battle unfortunately Priyantha... but they do awesome work... considering.
[07:32] <ganesh_> so there is no way?
[07:33] <Priyantha> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="vga=normale nomodeset"
[07:33] <Priyantha> that is what I am going to put
[07:33] <Priyantha> should be good I think :)
[07:33] <Priyantha> yes it is L3top
[07:33] <Priyantha> they are doing great work yes I know :)
[07:33] <ganesh_> i do have grub customizer and it does support burg so can u use that change kernal?
[07:33] <Priyantha> will update-grub and then reboot L3top see you a 2 minutes ;)
[07:34] <auronandace> ganesh_: if you need help with ppas then contact their maintainers
[07:34] <auronandace> ganesh_: they are unsupported here
[07:35] <Priyantha> back :)
[07:36] <ganesh_> i see
[07:36] <Priyantha> mmmm made a  typo in my Grub line :P
[07:36] <Priyantha> normale had to be normal ;)
[07:36] <L3top> doh.
[07:37] <Priyantha> It didn't help though :(
[07:37] <Priyantha> still the flickering
[07:37] <L3top> fraid of that.
[07:37] <Priyantha> uhu same here ;)
[07:37] <michaelrose357> Hi what packages should I need to mount an encrypted raid created with fedora?
[07:37] <michaelrose357> or an encrypted raid array in general
[07:38] <Priyantha> I was wondering melodie was talking about altering the xorg.conf
[07:38] <jimmy8888> i seem to be missing "update-rc.d" command in 12.04 - does anybody else have it?
[07:38] <Priyantha> but that line he talked about, it not by default in the config
[07:39] <gaelfx> michaelrose357: not completely sure, but I would assume whatever software was used to create the encryption should be able to do it
[07:39] <michaelrose357> that is probably correct but not extremely useful it was created by anaconda
[07:39] <Priyantha> but I can put it myself of course
[07:39] <michaelrose357> during installlation
[07:39] <Priyantha> just a BusID statement
[07:39] <Priyantha> but is that going to help is the question ;)
[07:40] <L3top> Priyantha: It is a tad more complicated than stuffing it in there... you need to convert it.
[07:40] <Priyantha> yeah I know, from the lspci statement
[07:40] <bekks> michaelrose357: Then you have to ask the Fedora support to please tell you how the encrypt a RAID using anaconda.
[07:41] <L3top> Priyantha: but all that does is designate the correct bus output... in case it is confused... but you would have to have more buses avail which you do not appeear to.
[07:41] <gaelfx> michaelrose357: so ask in the fedora room what packages anaconda uses for encryption
[07:41] <michaelrose357> packages can't be exactly the same...hmm
[07:42] <Priyantha> L3top: exactly what I thought, and that is not the case on my laptop ;)
[07:43] <Jonny1> Hi. I am trying to get multichannel sound from a Nicole USB 6ch sound module. In the sound settings I can only get the first 2 channels to work
[07:43] <L3top> Priyantha: If you wanted to though... lspci | grep VGA | head -1 | while IFS=':. ' read -r tok1 tok2 tok3 rest; do printf '%2s %2s %s\n' "$((16#$tok1))":"$((16#$tok2))":"$((16#$tok3))" | sed -e 's/ //g'; done      will give you what you need ;P
[07:44] <Priyantha> is not really working L3top ;) I think you didn't close it right your string
[07:44] <Priyantha> but it doesn't matter I converted it already by hand :P
[07:44] <Priyantha> But I am not going to that route I think
[07:45] <Priyantha> I can't see why that should solve it
[07:45] <L3top> lspci | grep VGA | head -1 | while IFS=':. ' read -r tok1 tok2 tok3 rest; do printf '%2s %2s %s\n' "$((16#$tok1))":"$((16#$tok2))":"$((16#$tok3))" | sed -e 's/ //g'; done
[07:45] <L3top> 1:5:0
[07:45] <Priyantha> there are no more than 1 graphicscard in y laptop
[07:45] <Priyantha> root@HP-EliteBook-8560w:~# lspci | grep VGA | head -1 | while IFS=':. ' read -r tok1 tok2 tok3 rest; do printf '%2s %2s %s\n' "$((16#$tok1))":"$((16#$tok2))":"$((16#$tok3))" | sed -e 's/ //g'; done
[07:45] <Priyantha> 1:0:0
[07:45] <Priyantha> sorry ;)
[07:45] <Priyantha> :+
[07:45] <FloodBot1> Priyantha: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:46] <Priyantha> that bot is quite aggressive tuned by the way ;)
[07:46] <gaelfx> Priyantha: as per guidelines, we try to discourage people from useint the !enter key too often
[07:46] <auronandace> Priyantha: spammers are also rather agressive
[07:47] <gaelfx> it's intended to keep things readable in IRC
[07:48] <Priyantha> Yeah I know auronandace ;)
[07:48] <Priyantha> I am a long-time IRC user myself :)
[07:49] <L3top> You do realise it has to convert from base hex to base 10 right? It isn't a straight swap the dots... regardless. I wonder what it desided your hz is. Does      xrandr --verbose | grep EDID         return a result?
[07:49] <L3top> Priyantha: ^
[07:50] <EdBrill> BONJOUR
[07:50] <L3top> That wouldn't account for the bios post retention though... man thats weird.
[07:51] <L3top> !fr
[07:51] <decci> I got two server - Linux(Ubuntu) and Windows(2003) from webhosting company. I can connect to them and login. When I see Ubuntu machine, it reports some IP X and Z(two entries on /etc/resolv.conf). Say,  nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>  while Windows Machine too shows the first DNS server entry on nslookup.   >nslookup localhost <IP_ADDRESS>  I am able to ping Windows machine from Linux machine but unable to ping Lin
[07:51] <Priyantha> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=175647
[07:51] <Priyantha> this looks like my problem :)
[07:51] <gaelfx> I am using NFS to access my /home on my mainbox from my laptops in my home, the /home in question is on an external drive connected via USB3.0, and sometimes it works perfectly fine, other times it works particularly slow, can someone help me diagnose the problem, if not solve it?
[07:51] <Priyantha> L3top: I don't get any output after that command
[07:52] <decci> This could be incomplete domain name(I guess?) What domain name shall I need to add to Windows?
[07:52] <Priyantha> no EDID info
[07:52] <gaelfx> Priyantha: are both of your cards listed in lspci?
[07:52] <Priyantha> there is one card gaelfx
[07:52] <Priyantha> no two
[07:53] <gaelfx> Priyantha: ok, is IT listed in lspci?
[07:53] <L3top> yes that thread sounds EXACTLY like your issue.
[07:53] <Priyantha> yes it it gaelfx :)
[07:54] <Priyantha> I think there is also a solution there
[07:54] <onery1> how can i learn how to partition a hd?
[07:54] <Priyantha> I am going to read it more thourough
[07:54] <gaelfx> onery1: I believe there is a guide in the documentation on the website, but do you have a more specific question you might want to ask? I could give you general advice if you like
[07:56] <xplover> hi
[07:56]  * L3top wonders if it is related to the lack of edid data and its guess at your hz... Priyantha can I get a pastebin of xrandr --verbose      as well as your  /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[07:56] <Priyantha> yes of course L3top
[07:58] <Priyantha> here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069003/
[07:58] <Priyantha> I am going to reboot, I changed some settings in the nvidia-settings
[07:58] <Priyantha> ah well
[07:58] <Priyantha> I am to put the xorg.conf also for you
[07:59] <Priyantha> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069006/ here is my xorg.conf
[07:59] <superJ> hello
[08:00] <L3top> Priyantha: you DO have EDID data in there...  odd that it did not return a result...
[08:02] <L3top> Oh... you meant that it did not return the data itself... my fault for not being clear. When I ask if it "returns a result" I mean ANY result... I was just looking for the line that says EDID: the data itself follows after newline... just means it sees some.
[08:04] <Priyantha> back :)
[08:04] <L3top> Priyantha: That is a terribly lame xorg.conf... I am going to generate one for you. Please back that one up in case I blow your stuff up... but... I really shouldn't. That is one heck of a laptop btw. I am a bit jealous.
[08:04] <Priyantha> aah okay sorry
[08:04] <Priyantha> thx ;P
[08:04] <Priyantha> It's quite a beast yes :)
[08:05] <Priyantha> with a 30bit screen FHD and stuff :)
[08:05] <Priyantha> and currently since a couple of days with a ssd
[08:08] <Priyantha> going to purge xorg-edgers
[08:08] <Priyantha> and try to use the latest 'stable' nvidia driver
[08:08] <Priyantha> because now I am using a 302.x driver
[08:08] <Priyantha> that's are the betas
[08:10] <gzimmerer> where to find help on nic drivers??
[08:11] <Priyantha> what kind of nic drivers ?
[08:11] <Priyantha> most of the are already in the kernel includes gaelfx
[08:11] <Priyantha> uhmm gzimmerer
[08:11] <Priyantha> sorry gaelfx ;)
[08:12] <gzimmerer> dell d600 yeah well I've been working on this for two weeks no luck..  I am new to linux/Ubuntu
[08:12] <gaelfx> I am using NFS to access my /home on my mainbox from my laptops in my home, the /home in question is on an external drive connected via USB3.0, and sometimes it works perfectly fine, other times it works particularly slow, can someone help me diagnose the problem, if not solve it?
[08:12] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: what seems to be the problem?
[08:12] <Priyantha> what kind of nic gzimmerer ? your cabled nic ? or wireless ?
[08:12] <gzimmerer> laptop worked well with XP dule boot now that I wiped and put Ubuntu I get wifi but no ethernet.
[08:13] <wdp> gzimmerer, try to ask more detailed questions. describe your problem. you just asked "hey, can someone help me with my bycycle" without telling whats your problem.
[08:13] <gzimmerer> when I do hardware I only see Intel Pro Wireless
[08:13] <Priyantha> L3top: going to install nou nvidia-current-updates by the way :)
[08:14] <Priyantha> and then alter the nvidia-settings according to that thread and look if it is solved
[08:14] <L3top> Priyantha: http://pastebin.com/yn32QHVk        give that a try... if it pukes I will tweak a couple of things... I am making some broad assumptions ... I think they will go.
[08:14] <L3top> Priyantha: I wouldnt
[08:14] <onery1> anyone know if there are NES emulators for Ubuntu?
[08:14] <Priyantha> ah okay
[08:14] <Priyantha> not altering the settings ?
[08:14] <Priyantha> or not purging the xorg-edgers repo ?
[08:14] <gaelfx> onery1: yes, look in the software center, you should find them by searching NES
[08:14] <wdp> nvidia in ubuntu seems to be a little bit difficult anyway.
[08:15] <L3top> Well... the 295.40 driver has a regression issue which is better with the one you have... but it is yours to do with as you wish Priyantha
[08:15] <onery1> thanks gaelfx
[08:15] <gaelfx> wdp: still easier to deal with than fglrx though
[08:15] <wdp> due to compiz I guess.
[08:15] <wdp> if i try to use my sli setup in ubuntu, i get very low fps.
[08:15] <Priyantha> ah okay :P well I want to try the best I can haha L3top ;) so I am keeping the xorg-edgers then :)
[08:15] <wdp> if i disable sli and try to play videos, vdpau causes sometimes freezes.
[08:15] <wdp> and i get overall stuttering.
[08:15] <SadlyMistaken> Hello, I just suprimated the clock,the messages icon, the net-wifi indicator, etc... could someone help me?
[08:15] <wdp> only chance to play back videos --- -vo xv.
[08:16] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: perhaps you could pastebin the output of 'lspci | grep -i network
[08:16] <wdp> but yeah. still easier than fglrx :)
[08:16] <L3top> Priyantha: might do that if this all fails... I didnt see a solution... I saw one guy say he thought it was related to DPMS... and several others say "no" but its worth a shot....
[08:16] <gaelfx> wdp: what are you using to play videos?
[08:16] <wdp> mplayer (hence -vo xv)
[08:17] <Priyantha> well the 'solution' I found was altering the dithering in the nvidia-setings screen
[08:17] <gaelfx> wdp: did you try using VLC and enabling GPU accelleration?
[08:17] <SadlyMistaken> Hello, I just deleted the clock,the messages icon, the net-wifi indicator, etc... could someone help me?
[08:17] <wdp> not yet, can do later. though i really would prefer to use mplayer.
[08:18] <gaelfx> wdp: yeah, that's what I usually use, but I've found VLC actually does a better job a lot of the time (only recently though)
[08:18] <wdp> mhm
[08:18] <wdp> lemme check later, sorting my backups currently :)
[08:18] <gaelfx> no problem
[08:18] <Priyantha> going to try your xorg.conf now L3top :)
[08:19] <Priyantha> thx
[08:19] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: do you know how to use pastebin?
[08:19] <meisth0th> hello
[08:20] <Priyantha> rebooting ;) see ya in a minute of 2
[08:20] <meisth0th> i want to upload my application to launchpad to a ppa, i activated ppa for my application but i don't know how to create a package, i was following packagingguide on wiki but i already have 123918731 tabs open. isn't there an easy way?
[08:22] <gaelfx> meisth0th: easy ways tend to lead to crappier software,imo
[08:22] <meisth0th> lol
[08:22] <meisth0th> i already stayed awake for nights to write to code
[08:22] <Priyantha> L3top: your config made my screen go b0rked ;)
[08:22] <Priyantha> just green and other colors flickering
[08:22] <gaelfx> plus, it kind of needs to be complicated so that the package dependencies and whatnot don't break the system
[08:23] <Priyantha> without seeing the actual content
[08:23] <Priyantha> so reverted to 'no' xorg.conf
[08:23] <L3top> well... I did mention I took some liberties and it might
[08:23] <L3top> And I did tell you to back up your old one so you could revert...
[08:24] <L3top> One second I will give you a safer one
[08:24] <Priyantha> L3top: my fickering is gone
[08:24] <Priyantha> :D
[08:24] <Priyantha> it's done by altering
[08:24] <Priyantha> the nvidia-settings windo
[08:24] <L3top> in what way?
[08:24] <gzimmerer> no sorry i was looking for pastebin
[08:25] <Krammer> Hey :) I've installed the package of 7zip, but I can use it, why ? and how ?
[08:25] <Priyantha> under the Dithering controls, I changed "Dithering enabled" to 'enabled', "mode" to "Static 2x2" and Depth to 6 bpc
[08:25] <Priyantha> mmm 8 looks like working too
[08:25] <Priyantha> changed it now to 8 bpc
[08:25] <gaelfx> L3top: would you have any idea why my mainbox always boots up to 1080i instead of 1920x1080@60hz? (using NVidia drivers) It causes a goodly portion of the screen to remain off-screen
[08:26] <L3top> sweet! Thanks for figuring it out. I will save that, so perhaps I can help someone else.
[08:26] <L3top> gaelfx: all the way around?
[08:26] <gaelfx> L3top: not sure what you mean
[08:26] <Priyantha> Yeah :)
[08:26] <Priyantha> nice stuff, thanks for your great help L3top :)
[08:27] <Priyantha> I will stay here around to help others if I can :)
[08:27] <L3top> meaning not the left side, or the top... but there is a portion of the screen missing on all four sides...
[08:27] <Priyantha> after all I am quite experienced with server systems and running diverse Unix and Linux variants :)
[08:27] <gaelfx> L3top: yeah, that'd be a good description of it :)
[08:27] <L3top> Priyantha: ;) you did all the work... it is nice when helping someone who knows what they are doing...
[08:28] <Priyantha> gheghe I know L3top ;) but two minds can think more than just one
[08:28] <Priyantha> gaelfx can't you force that resolution setting inside the nvidia-settings panel ?
[08:28] <L3top> gaelfx: it is called overscanning... and it has to do with your tv. There is no reason, at all, for TV manufacturers to still use this... but they do. There should be something in the nvidia configuration tool to account for this.
[08:29] <gaelfx> L3top: thanks, I'll look into that then
[08:29] <gzimmerer> Is this how to pastbin?
[08:29] <gzimmerer> http://pastebin.com/rizppHfR
[08:29] <L3top> gaelfx: Many tvs have a way to account for this as well in their menus.
[08:30] <Priyantha> gaelfx: http://priyantha.nl/GoT/Screenshot%20from%202012-07-01%2010:29:12.png
[08:30] <Priyantha> for example
[08:30] <gaelfx> eh, it's a Chinese TV, I'm lucky it has English menus at all
[08:31] <Priyantha> lol
[08:31] <mrguser> ya
[08:31] <Priyantha> you can disable overscanning in the TV settings yes
[08:31] <LeJoker> Evening, #ubuntu. Anyone wanna help me installing an x64 version of Java?
[08:31] <L3top> Priyantha: depends on the tv. My Samsung plasma, for instance (which actually uses LG boards) cannot.
[08:32] <kav> hello , i need help regarding  Shell SCript
[08:32] <kav> can somebody help me
[08:32] <Priyantha> here it says: "16:9 Overscan" 'off'
[08:32] <mrguser> I know it
[08:32] <Priyantha> on my Panasonic TX-P50VT30 Plasma
[08:32] <xpistos> hey guys. Anyone know where I might get some help with a dd-wrt router
[08:32] <Priyantha> wow that's quite annoying L3top
[08:32] <L3top> !details | kav
[08:33] <Priyantha> Isn't here a hidden option for it then L3top ?
[08:33] <kav> ok ! i need want to enter password in script
[08:33] <L3top> Priyantha: Yep... very but our project has its own overscan fixer thingamajig.
[08:33] <Priyantha> It sound so strange, maybe a inside a debug menu or something :)
[08:33] <kav> how can i do that
[08:34] <L3top> kav: sending passwords in the clear is a very bad idea. You should ask how to do this in #bash the correct way... but... truthfully... this should not be done.
[08:34] <kav> i enter sudo bash in script ---> after that i it need password ---> i want to feel the passeord by defualt in script
[08:34] <bekks> Ouch.
[08:35] <kav> O   ! but i need
[08:35] <bekks> Hardcoded passwords - not a single person on this planet needs that.
[08:35] <L3top> kav... just run the script as root.
[08:35] <LeJoker> Anyone wanna help me install an x64 copy of Java? I have a .tar.gz file but I'm not entirely sure what to do with it.
[08:35] <LeJoker> bekks: Hackers do :P
[08:36] <LeJoker> That'd be like christmas!
[08:36] <kav>   GNU nano 2.2.6               File: Music
[08:36] <kav> mkdir .Music_Store
[08:36] <kav> ln -d /home/kav/Music/ /home/kav/Desktop/.Music_Store/
[08:36] <kav> rhythmbox  /home/kav/Desktop/.Music_Store/*.mp3
[08:36] <FloodBot1> kav: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:36] <bekks> LeJoker: Christmas, birthday, Easter, everything. :)
[08:36] <Priyantha> what are you trying to do kav ?
[08:36] <L3top> Priyantha: I have opened up the service menu on my tv... and in fact even changed the model designation to open up 24p... I promise you... there is NO way to do this.
[08:36] <Priyantha> transfering files to other pc's ?
[08:36] <Novasun> joker what version of ubuntu do you use?
[08:37] <Priyantha> ah okay L3top :P strange tho :D
[08:37] <Jonny1> Can anyone help me get surround sound in Ubuntu 12.04 using a Nicole 6ch USB sound card, please?
[08:37] <LeJoker> Novasun: 12.04
[08:37] <kav> i want to transfer files from MUSIC to .Music_Store (hidden)
[08:37] <kav> for that it need a password
[08:37] <Priyantha> on the same machine kav ?
[08:37] <kav> yup
[08:37] <Priyantha> you're using the sudo command in front ?
[08:37] <kav> permission denied !
[08:37] <Priyantha> to do it as 'root' privileged user ?
[08:37] <kav> i tried ! but failed
[08:38] <bekks> kav: You dont need a password at all in your example given.
[08:38] <decci>  I have been provided with two servers Linux and Windows from webhosting company. If I configure one of them with my own DNS server, will it be reachable from here. Or do I need to stick to their DNS server
[08:38] <bekks> Both directories belong to the same user - no password needed at all.
[08:38] <Priyantha> uhu sounds strange, the .Music_Store should be belonging to the same uid/guid's
[08:39] <kav> yup ! it belongs to me i.e kav
[08:39] <L3top> kav... you have been told about your hyperactive use of the enter key... and if this is local, change the ownership/permissions of the hidden folder.
[08:39] <Novasun> joker x64 or x32?
[08:39] <bekks> kav: Then you dont need a password to copy stuff to that directory.
[08:39] <LeJoker> Novasun: x64
[08:40] <kav> i have tried it .... chmod 777 *
[08:40] <NielsMkn> hello everyone
[08:40] <L3top> kav ls -l .Music_Store
[08:40] <Priyantha> 09:37 < Jonny1> Can anyone help me get surround sound in Ubuntu 12.04 using a Nicole 6ch USB sound card, please?
[08:40] <NielsMkn> I have a big problem here
[08:40] <L3top> whatever path that precedes it kav
[08:40] <Priyantha> Jonny1, is it a Chinese sound card or something ?
[08:40] <Priyantha> can you do a lsusb ?
[08:41] <Novasun> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk
[08:41] <Priyantha> and copy/paste it to a pastebin ?
[08:41] <Jonny1> Priyantha: Yes it was made in China, but then so is everything these days
[08:41] <Novasun> java 7 is said to mess up firefox
[08:41] <NielsMkn> I formatted one of my partitions as fat and now my laptop is stuck at the boot screen (HP Logo) and I can't even enter the bios menu.
[08:41] <Priyantha> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[08:41] <L3top> Novasun: that will not work anymore I do not believe
[08:41] <kav> i have  mention it above
[08:41] <LeJoker> Novasun: I'm looking for java 7 and that installed x86 for me last time
[08:41] <Priyantha> I know Jonny1 :P but I meant the brand it self Jonny1
[08:41] <gaelfx> Jonny1: what does lspci/lsusb show it as?
[08:41] <LeJoker> Java 7 has never messed with firefox for me
[08:41] <kav> wait a minute
[08:41] <gaelfx> Jonny1: knowing the manufacturer usually doesn't help since they probably didn't make the chip they're using
[08:42] <NielsMkn> So when I remove the hdd and boot from usb, I'm able to get into the 'try ubuntu' thing but can't see my hdd even if I connect it.
[08:42] <Priyantha> Jonny1: because google'ing on that sound card doesn't revaal a lot ;)
[08:42] <NielsMkn> Any idea how to solve this issue?
[08:42] <LeJoker> although I installed the JRE, I don't need to develop anything. does the JDK default to x64?
[08:42] <L3top>  Novasun when oracle bought sun they pulled the license nonsense and it has been removed from the repos.
[08:43] <Priyantha> NielsMkn: yes I do have a clue
[08:43] <gzimmerer> Where can I find information on Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter (rev 04)?
[08:43] <Jonny1> Priyantha: lsusb shows it as Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0c45:17cf Microdia
[08:43] <NielsMkn> ah great how do I do it Priyantha ?
[08:43] <Priyantha> it's because you'r HP has it's Bios on a hidden partition I think
[08:43] <Priyantha> I had it also when I put my new SSD in it
[08:43] <kav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069047/
[08:44] <kav> check it !
[08:44] <L3top> What information are you trying to find gzimmerer
[08:44] <NielsMkn> ah it didn't boot when you inserted the ssd?
[08:44] <gaelfx> Jonny1: ok, so run 'alsamixer' and see if you can select it as your sound card
[08:44] <Priyantha> yes NielsMkn
[08:44] <gzimmerer> First question is this both wifi and ethernet?
[08:44] <Priyantha> I had to plug my old hdd in
[08:44] <NielsMkn> so how did you fix it?
[08:44] <bekks> kav: Then fix the permissions instead of breaking even more permissions when using sudo.
[08:44] <Priyantha> well you can try it with a windows 7 install disk
[08:44] <Priyantha> from HP itself
[08:44] <Jonny1> gaelfx: I can select it in alsamixer as usb audio but it only shows 2 channels
[08:44] <Priyantha> and install the uefi bios tooling
[08:44] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: no, it's wireless, your wired card is probably something else. Why don't you pastebin 'lspci | grep -i network' for us?
[08:45] <Priyantha> you can still change you boot order ?
[08:45] <Priyantha> or choose a boot device ?
[08:45] <Priyantha> or even that not ?
[08:45] <kav> Ok ! lets me try again
[08:45] <gzimmerer> http://pastebin.com/rizppHfR
[08:45] <Priyantha> by pressing the "ESC" button or "F9" NielsMkn ?
[08:45] <gzimmerer> Shows only the ProWireless... perhpas my ethernet is on the MB?
[08:45] <NielsMkn> Priyantha, I can't enter the bios setup options while the hdd is connected.
[08:45] <Priyantha> and if you disconnect the hdd ?
[08:46] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: probably, yes, but it should show up in lspci. how about pastebinning 'ifconfig'
[08:46] <Priyantha> you don't need to enter the bios itself
[08:46] <gzimmerer> sure, but same problem just a sec.
[08:46] <Priyantha> just only the boot menu
[08:46] <NielsMkn> If I remove it and then boot from the windows 7 disc, I can't see the hdd when I connect it later
[08:46] <Novasun> http://www.webupd8.org/2011/09/how-to-install-oracle-java-7-jdk-in.html  ??
[08:47] <Priyantha> mmmm strange stuff NielsMkn...
[08:47] <Priyantha> let me thing :P
[08:47] <Priyantha> *think
[08:47] <gzimmerer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069049/
[08:47] <NielsMkn> yeah I know, I'm totally stuck :P
[08:47] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: sorry, that was my fault, I should have asked for lspci | grep -i ethernet
[08:47] <bekks> NielsMkn: You dont have a hot plug hdd. :)
[08:47] <bekks> NielsMkn: Most likely, you will electrically break it when doing so.
[08:47] <NielsMkn> hot plug hdd?
[08:48] <shafi> anyone here has experienced pdnsd with dhcp?
[08:48] <Priyantha> try to put your hdd in a usb case :)
[08:48] <Priyantha> or just the s-ata>usb converter
[08:48] <gzimmerer> No prob.... but it showed up blank
[08:48] <Priyantha> that should do it
[08:48] <gaelfx> Jonny1: what does it call the device in alsamixer?
[08:48] <kav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069050/
[08:48] <NielsMkn> So first I need to buy a s-ata to usb converter?
[08:49] <kav> check out this one
[08:49] <Priyantha> I have put my old HDD also trough a s-ata to usb converter on my laptop
[08:49] <gzimmerer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069051/
[08:49] <Priyantha> yes that should give you a big chance yes
[08:49] <kav> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069050/      i have addes sudo in it
[08:49] <bekks> kav: OUCH. DONT mess up the permissions even more.
[08:49] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: ok, just pb the whole lspci
[08:49] <bekks> kav: Use this:
[08:49] <Mayazcherquoi> Hey guys, how can I make it so that when I disconnect my headphones from the computer, the volume will become mute and vice versa?
[08:49] <gzimmerer> okay will do
[08:49] <Mayazcherquoi> Just like on Windows?
[08:50] <shafi> anyone here has experienced pdnsd with dhcp?
[08:50] <bekks> kav: chmod -R youruser:youruser ~/Music/; find ~/Music/ -type d -exec chmod 755 {}\; find ./Music/ -type f -exec chmod 644 {}\;
[08:50] <Priyantha> NielsMkn: http://www.priyantha.nl/GoT/Screenshot%20from%202012-07-01%2010:50:06.png
[08:51] <Priyantha> this is how my partition table looks like
[08:51] <gzimmerer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069053/
[08:51] <NielsMkn> I see, thanks Priyantha
[08:51] <kav> ?   ...   can you simplify above ..............Aha ....
[08:51] <NielsMkn> Can you show me a screenshot of your s-ata to usb converter?
[08:52] <kav> bekks   : can you train me
 http://askubuntu.com/questions/132770/how-do-i-stop-sound-coming-from-my-speakers-with-a-faulty-headphone-socket
[08:52] <kav> bekks  : O god
[08:53] <Novasun> seems like it could relate to what you are searching for
[08:53] <bekks> kav: chown -R recursively sets ownership to your user/group. The first find gets all directories and sets useful permissions to them; the second one does the same for all files.
[08:53] <fluffyguy> anyone knows why lxpanel and openbox keeps "restarting" (Its like im on windows and explorer keeps dying on me) ?
[08:53] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: wow, that kind of makes me think that nic in your machine is fried, unless the driver for it somehow got blacklisted. Did you do any blacklisting to get other stuff working?
[08:53] <fluffyguy> Im using lubuntu 12.04
[08:54] <shafi> anyone?
[08:54] <shiftingcontrol> I searched in synaptic and apt-get doesn't install libpcslite-dev, where can I get that
[08:54] <Jonny1> gaelfx: Alsamixer shows it as USB Audio
[08:54] <L3top> !anyone | shafi
[08:55] <gaelfx> I am using NFS to access my /home on my mainbox from my laptops in my home, the /home in question is on an external drive connected via USB3.0, and sometimes it works perfectly fine, other times it works particularly slow, can someone help me diagnose the problem, if not solve it?
[08:55] <gzimmerer> don't know blacklisting, so probably not... It was dual boot with XP working, then reload with Ubuntu finds wifi as eth0 but no wired network.
[08:55] <Mayazcherquoi> Novasun: That isn't really my problem. My socket is not faulty, and sound from the speakers does cease when I plug headphones in. What I am asking, is, how can I have two separate volume levels? One when the headphones are plugged in, and one without? Like Windows 7.
[08:55] <kav> bekks : hey ! what is the difference between locate and finf
[08:55] <kav> bekks : *find and locate
[08:56] <L3top> locate = where does the system think this is, find = seek out anything matching this pattern wherever I tell it to look kav
[08:56] <Priyantha> locate is built with a database, that database has to be up-to-date to know exactly the real location
[08:57] <Priyantha> find is just plain old searching the location without using a database backend
[08:57] <gaelfx> Jonny1: what software are you using to try and play the audio?
[08:57] <Priyantha> locate is most of the time faster, but is only usable when it is already indexed :)
[08:57] <Priyantha> updatedb will update the locate database by the way kav ;)
[08:57] <Novasun> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio
[08:57] <L3top> gzimmerer: does windows find/use it?
[08:57] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: and is the ethernet working under windows?
[08:58] <emoney> quick Q: my buddy DL'd ubuntu12 but would prefer 10,04LTS, and he's dual-booted w/ windows. Can 10.04 be installed over 12 w/o reinstall windows?
[08:58] <shafi> I have configured pdnsd and dhcp-server on my 11.10 ubuntu server, when I set the pdnsd IP in dhcpd.conf as a option domain-name-servers, then the clients are not able to ping google, but they are able to ping the google ip, any idea?
[08:58] <kav> bekks   : i think i asking a stupid question ............... suppose i want to find all file related to .mp3   then if i type                                            find . *.mp3
[08:58] <kav> what shpuld be the output
[08:58] <Novasun> Mayazcherquoi  http://www.schaeben.info/alsamixer.jpg ?? alsamixer
[08:58] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: my wireless shows up as Eth1, so that's just a naming convention for network adapters
[08:59] <kav> bekks :   find         .                                        *.mp3
[08:59] <gzimmerer> Yes Windows finds and used it before the wipe
[08:59] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: did it work in the live environment? could you try to see if it does?
[08:59] <L3top> gzimmerer: can you pastebin your /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[09:00] <shafi> bekks, locate *.mp3
[09:00] <emoney> So if I DL 10.04, burn as ISO to disk, can I just reappropriate the space for Ubuntu12 as space for 12? (as long as I get the partition names correct)
[09:00] <kav> O ! hey ! shafi where is bekks
[09:00] <Jonny1> gaelfx: I want to route 2 different media players to different outputs on the sound card so I can use one to preview on headphones and the other to play my playlist on loudspeakers. So far I am using Rhythmbox and havent installed a second player yet. But jack control only shows 2 outputs at the moment.
[09:01] <L3top> shafi: do you have any other name servers listed? and what does your resolv.conf look like
[09:01] <kav> i think he is using ssh server
[09:01] <Novasun> alsa mixer is in the software center just type alsa
[09:01] <kav> L3top : i think he is using ssh server
[09:01] <shafi> L3top, the ISP dns servers are place in pdnsd.conf file, and within the resolve.conf I only have the localhost IP
[09:02] <gzimmerer> full lshw here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069064/
[09:02] <gzimmerer> rulesd here  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069067/
[09:02] <L3top> Jonny1: it sounds as if you will need to designate outputs on the specific media players... if I understand your goal.
[09:02] <emoney> quick Q: my buddy DL'd ubuntu12 but would prefer 10,04LTS, and he's dual-booted w/ windows. Can 10.04 be installed over 12 w/o reinstall windows?
[09:02] <Novasun> if you type alsa there are others that show up I haven't tested them
[09:02] <Jonny1> gaelfx: I have just found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SurroundSound and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=795525 so Im trying changing "default - sample-channels = 2" to "default - sample-channels = 6". I will have to reboot after doing that
[09:03] <L3top> !downgrade | emoney
[09:03] <Jonny1> L3top: Yes you understand perfectly.
[09:03] <emoney> !downgrade
[09:03] <kav> hey ! i want to plug net shutter in my ubuntu , how can i do that without using network connection API
[09:03] <cybic_> ubottu, to my mind it's nearly impossible to downgrade...
[09:03] <Jonny1> L3top: but at the moment ubuntu is only showing 2 outputs so I am not as far as allocating players to outputs yet. Need to reboot and see if it works
[09:03] <gzimmerer> BTW, How do you guys make your posts on this thread all the same color?
[09:03] <emoney> downgrade from 12 to 10 is an upgrade, imo. But dont want to start the age-old "unity vs gnome" argument
[09:04] <cybic_> emoney, so please do not start ;)
[09:04] <bekks> kav: I am here. Why?
[09:04] <L3top> Jonny1: what does alsamixer show? Does it have a designated headphone mixer?
[09:04] <kav> bekks : hey ! i want to plug net shutter in my ubuntu , how can i do that without using network connection API
[09:04] <emoney> cybic_, I wont...just helping a buddy start out on ubuntu, and 10.04 is far more user-friendly when migrating from windows
[09:05] <kav> bekks ; i want to use system files
[09:05] <bekks> kav: Did they three commands I gave you work out?
[09:05] <cybic_> emoney, and here it goes again :D
[09:06] <emoney> I'll PM for info if you have? Just so it's off main
[09:06] <L3top> Unfortunately emoney, your question has been answered.
[09:06] <kav> i haven't try it out , but i have note them ..i will  try them after clearing my doubts
[09:06] <kav> Aha ...
[09:06] <Jonny1> L3top: For the internal soundcard alsamixer does show a headphone and speaker output. But I need to use the headphone connector to connect a PA system so thats not too helpful as there is only one headphone socket. For USB Audio, alsamixer only shows a single entry "PCM"
[09:06] <kav> bekks : hey ! i want to plug net shutter in my ubuntu , how can i do that without using network connection API
[09:07] <bekks> kav: What is a "net shutter"?
[09:07] <jetole> Does anyone know which room I would use to send a message to ubuntu maintainers or admins?
[09:07] <kav> bekks : can you help me
[09:07] <bekks> kav: I never heard of a net shutter until now.
[09:07] <L3top> Jonny1: That is going to be a bit of a trick.
[09:07] <kav> !net\shutter
[09:07] <shafi> L3top, please see configuration detail here.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069076/
[09:07] <julia> Hi
[09:08] <gaelfx> gzimmerer: for that rules.d you need to open it in gedit and then paste the contents
[09:08] <Jonny1> L3top: Im trying editing pulse audio settings as shown in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=795525. I will have to reboot before I can see if it works.
[09:08] <kav> bekks : net shutter : is pendrive like connector used to plug externally in computer's slot to use internet
[09:09] <bekks> kav: I am sorry, I didnt get that sentence. It makes no sense to me, so please rephrase it.
[09:09] <L3top> Jonny1: this will likely get you 6 chan... but designating them is going to be a trick.
[09:09] <kav> bekks : https://www.google.com/search?q=net+shutter&hl=en&client=ubuntu&hs=Taw&channel=fs&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=HBLwT__JLIHVrQfr0qy9DQ&ved=0CFEQ_AUoAQ&biw=670&bih=316
[09:09] <L3top> lol@ google search link
[09:09] <Novasun> patchage in software center might work it seems to offer allot of customization
[09:09] <Jonny1> L3top: Once I have 6 channels to play with then I think Jack Control Panel's patchbay will do the trick
[09:09] <L3top> checking shafi...
[09:09] <kav> bekks : click on that link
[09:09] <bekks> kav: No. Why?
[09:10] <L3top> not if it thinks the front and the back are the same output Jonny1... If I understand your setup correctly.
[09:10] <julia> I installed 12.04 but my screen is not recognized (Ilyama E2607WS)
[09:10] <julia> any tip?
[09:10] <kav> it will show you net shutter ...........................................believe me , its not a virus
[09:10] <bekks> kav: It downt want a picture of a net shutter, I want an explanation what it is doing. And you . key is freaking out.
[09:10] <L3top> what do you mean the screen is not recognized julia... What is the actual problem?
[09:11] <Novasun> http://drobilla.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/patchage.png
[09:11] <kav> O !
[09:11] <Jonny1> L3top: I need to see what happens after I change the settings and reboot
[09:11] <jetole> Does anyone know which channel I could find ubuntu admins/maintainers. There seems to be a outage on a set of repos at the moment
[09:11] <L3top> kav... stop with the nonsense space eating posts... please. Again. For the 3rd day.
[09:11] <julia> L3top: actually it's recognized as a Ilyama 25
[09:11] <d4v1d> hey guys...anyone knows about the wacom-grafictablett problem in dualmonitor use? Even if i assign my laptopscreen to the tablet, in the mainsettings, the mice is 5cm away from my pen, cause it thinks the whole desktop is my screen..the changed settings are never saved when i close and open the settings again. using updatet ubuntu 12.04 on a lenovo x61t.thx4 reading...doubble thx4help :)
[09:11] <L3top> What problem does this create julia?
[09:12] <kav> netsetter
[09:12] <julia> I' got the twice the information
[09:12] <julia> like 2 bars on each side of the screent
[09:12] <L3top> !details | julia
[09:12] <julia> like "sur iimpression"
[09:13] <gaelfx> I am using NFS to access my /home on my mainbox from my laptops in my home, the /home in question is on an external drive connected via USB3.0, and sometimes it works perfectly fine, other times it works particularly slow, can someone help me diagnose the problem, if not solve it?
[09:13] <kav> internet Data Card which plug externally to PC
[09:14] <julia> Ok I installed Ubuntu 12.04 deskotp, same thing with server version. the screen is recognized as Ilyama 25, when it's a 2607WS, as a result 2 bars on the left and on the right of the screen are re-impreted on top of the already displayed infomration
[09:15] <kav> bekks : its a data Cars which plug externally to PC , to access internet
[09:15] <kav> i think you have seen in it breaks ...............    Net setter giving 2G and 3G  connection
[09:15] <bekks> kav: Use a SINGLE . please.
[09:15] <kav> bekks : ok !  i think you get me now
[09:15] <L3top> I am not sure I can help shafi... I have not seen a conf like that before... Sorry.
[09:15] <julia> Samre results with VGA and HDMI
[09:16] <kav> bekks : sorry , my english is very poor : )
[09:16] <shafi> L3top, no problem, thanks anyway
[09:16] <shafi> hope some one else could help me with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069076/
[09:16] <lgp171188> Hi, I am getting a 404 on ubuntu repositories when I do an apt-get update in my precise amd64 installation. Something like Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]. I haven't modified my sources.list in a long long time. Any clues as to what might be wrong?
[09:16] <bekks> kav: And from what I've found in a 30s google experience is, that this "netsetter" is a USB 3G Stick, which uses a Huawei E1550 chipset.
[09:17] <kav> bekks : yup ! you are right
[09:17] <Novasun> julia like how the bars on a wide screen tv movie?
[09:17] <kav> bekks : can you connect them using system files
[09:17] <julia> Novasu, no because there is twice the same information
[09:18] <bekks> kav: Huh? You have to configure it.
[09:19] <kav> bekks : how to configure it ?   , i'm a newbie : )
[09:19] <julia> Novasun: I was wandering if at least, I could do something to specify things manually
[09:19] <L3top> julia: what resolution is this set at? It sounds as if it is reading EDID data and misreporting... you might have to set a NoEdid value either in xrandr or an xorg.conf... i would have to look up which and how.
[09:19] <kav> bekks : actually i don't know which file i have to configure
[09:20] <julia> L3top: it does the same thing whatever the resolution, I tried all, I'm now on 1920x1200
[09:21] <julia> L3top: thanks I'll try to have a look at xrandr
[09:21] <L3top> julia: lspci -nn | grep VGA     please paste the output
[09:21] <julia> xrandr
[09:22] <gzimmerer> Anyone know if you can you search http://paste.ubuntu.com for all paste from a specific user?  As in to see past history?
[09:22] <killer_> hi....i created  a adhoc connection using nm-applet .......but the problem is that it is not detected by any of my wireless device
[09:22] <glitsj16> shafi: have you tried setting /etc/pdnsd.conf to use eth0 as server_ip instead of <IP_ADDRESS> yet (line 14)?
[09:23] <gzimmerer> L3top: sorry I dropped out for a few minutes... I am still new to chat.
[09:23] <Novasun> julia would this help ? http://www.didiergalland.com/2009/08/05/adding-undetected-resolutions-on-my-sony-vaio-z41-syncmaster223bw/
[09:23] <julia> L3top: SORRY, I was wrong, it does work on VGA, but not in HDMI
[09:23] <kav> bekks : are you busy
[09:23] <julia> L3top: VGA will do the trick,
[09:24] <shafi> glitsj16, not yet, let me just try..
[09:24] <gaelfx> is there anything that I could use to auto detect the character encoding for a text file?
[09:24] <L3top> gaelfx: file
[09:25] <L3top> mcc@cylon:~$ file saned          (newline)    saned: ASCII English text
[09:26] <kav> have any one use alert command
[09:26] <kav>  " alert   "
[09:27] <kav> alert " Hello "                          ### how can i gave  iconto this alert command
[09:28] <julia> Novasun: thanks, I'll give it a try, since in Vga, it's still a identified as 25''
[09:28] <gaelfx> eh?
[09:28] <julia> thanks everybody, have a good day
[09:28] <Novasun> np tell me if it works out
[09:29] <only_u> how can I unrar in ubuntu?
[09:29] <Jonny1> L3top: I changed the pulse audio config and now I have 6 channels all working. Now need to see if I can map them to different players
[09:29] <kav> alert command
[09:29] <L3top> kav... every time you hit enter, I am less inclined to help you. The more you disregard what you have been told for 3 days now... the closer you get to /ignore
[09:29] <L3top> !patience | kav
[09:29] <kav> O ! sorry
[09:30] <L3top> I cant even get libnotify installed and you have posted 5 times.
[09:30] <L3top> You keep saying sorry, and continue to do it.
[09:30] <sbarcteam> hi.
[09:30] <kav> L3top can you help me
[09:30] <sbarcteam> I want to use linux 3.4.4 on ubuntu.
[09:31] <sbarcteam> Is there a ready to use package for it ?
[09:31] <Priyantha> you don't want to use the newer 3.5.0 ? sbarcteam
[09:32] <L3top> kav: alert --help          Most commands have this.
[09:32] <mwozniak00> sbarcteam: you can use 3.5-rc kernel but on 12.10 alpha 2 ;)
[09:32] <Novasun> http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/libnotify1  did you try the .deb file based install?
[09:33] <sbarcteam> mwozniak00: I don't want 3.5-rc. and I'm on 12.04. Do I go make-kpkg route ?
[09:33] <gzimmerer> L3top: You seem busy, I will google some more and perhaps check back some other time... thanks for your help.
[09:34] <L3top> sorry gzimmerer I did not realize you were waiting for me.
[09:34] <glitsj16> sbarcteam: have you tried http://askubuntu.com/questions/142192/can-i-install-linux-kernel-3-4-in-ubuntu-and-kubuntu-12-04 yet?
[09:34] <Priyantha> I am using the 3.5 kernel from the xorg-edgers repo at the moment
[09:34] <L3top> Please refresh me... where are we at?
[09:34] <gzimmerer> this was my last... http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069098/
[09:34] <Priyantha> but that's also because I want to use the latest Xorg shizzle
[09:34] <Priyantha> so it can that you don't want that ;)
[09:34] <Priyantha> because it can be unstable
[09:34] <gzimmerer> L3top: this was my last http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069098/
[09:35] <L3top> sorry gzimmerer  cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[09:36] <NielsMkn> Priyantha, fixed my problem :D
[09:36] <Priyantha> cool !
[09:36] <Priyantha> how NielsMkn ?
[09:36] <gzimmerer> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069105/
[09:36] <kav> alert --icon=Path\ my \Icon   "My Message"
[09:37] <NielsMkn> I connected my hdd after entering the bios boot menu, instead of entering ubuntu live mode and then connecting it. This way the disk utility recognised my hdd and I was able to re-format the FAT partition back to NTFS which solved the problem :D
[09:37] <gaelfx> ok, so the next question is, how can I change the character encoding for a file?
[09:37] <brodul> Hi, how to disable ssh-agent in ubuntu ?
[09:38] <L3top> gzimmerer:  your system does not appear to see this nic at all.  And want to keep the wifi passwords unlocked. I just want ubuntu to "forget" password of my private ssh keys
[09:39] <kav> i want my alert not to show command alert --icon=Path\my\Icon "My Message"                when it pop up on Screen ... Can any one help me
[09:39] <xcervo> hello guys, how i can download free mp3 I'm using ubuntu 12.4
[09:40] <Dr_Willis> xcervo:  theres numerous web sites with legally free mp3s amazon even has some free ones eveyr day.
[09:40] <LjL> xcervo: Amarok and Banshee have Jamendo functionality
[09:40] <kav> xcervo : use dilandau.com
[09:40] <xcervo> thanks guys i'll check that
[09:41] <fk3> any good pdf reader with option to highlight text and add notes ?
[09:41] <pimperle> did archive.ubuntu.com just break? i get lots of 404s when running apt-get update and this started about 3 minutes ago.
[09:41] <kav> Dr_Wills : hey how are you
[09:41] <L3top> gzimmerer: please check your bios settings, to make sure the onboard is not disabled. You can also sudo mv /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules ~              this file should be regenerated on boot.
[09:41] <L3top> gzimmerer: if something odd is happening then we can move it back afterwards.
[09:42] <Novasun> does ssh auto start?
[09:42] <Priyantha> 10:37 < NielsMkn> I connected my hdd after entering the bios boot menu, instead of entering ubuntu live mode and then connecting it. This way the disk utility recognised my hdd and I was able to re-format  the FAT partition back to NTFS which solved the problem :D
[09:42] <Priyantha> Cool NielsMkn :)
[09:42] <Priyantha> happy to hear that !
[09:42] <Priyantha> so you're now back in business :D
[09:43] <NielsMkn> Thanks a lot for your help Priyantha :D. Fortunately yeah :)
[09:43] <Priyantha> no problem :)
[09:43] <Priyantha> so you have now you bios full working again too ? :D
[09:44] <NielsMkn> yup, everything works perfectly :D
[09:44] <fk3> good pdf reader for ubuntu with options to highlight text and add notes ? i hate xournal
[09:44] <kav> i want my alert not to show command alert --icon=Path\my\Icon "My Message"                when it pop up on Screen ... Can any one help me
[09:44] <fk3> mendeley desktop is another option but it's too heavy.
[09:45] <kav> fk3 : use foxit reader
[09:45] <L3top> !poll | fk3
[09:45] <kav> fk3 : its now available on ubuntu
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> kav: notify-send -i /home/willis/.config/cairo-dock/themes/MeeGo/icons/gedit.png "Demonstration"
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> kav:  dosent show the command it ran here...
[09:45] <Dr_Willis> kav: http://www.barregren.se/blog/pop-notification-command-line
[09:46] <LjL> L3top: he did specify some features he wanted
[09:46] <L3top> And that changes what?
[09:46] <Dr_Willis> kav:  also seems to be some built in icons...
[09:46] <Dr_Willis> kav notify-send -i face-cool "I'm cool."
[09:47] <LjL> L3top: that changes the fact that if you're asking for a program with specific features, that is not a "poll". the only thing that may have triggered your factoid was the "good" adjective, but that really seems pretty venial.
[09:47] <kav> Dr_Willis   : cool
[09:47] <Priyantha> cool NielsMkn :)
[09:47] <Priyantha> what kind of HP was it by the way ?
[09:47] <L3top> So... if you narrow down your poll for a good pdf reader with certain wants it is no longer a poll?
[09:48] <LjL> L3top: correct.
[09:48] <Dr_Willis> notify-send -i face-wink "Wink"
[09:48] <L3top> No... no it is not.
[09:48] <LjL> L3top: note the factoid includes "features you require", so it makes sense that if you specify such features, it's fine.
[09:48] <NielsMkn> Priyantha, Its hp dv6 2165tx
[09:48] <LjL> L3top: i wrote the factoid, maybe i know.
[09:49] <shafi> thanks glitsj16 , now I can ping, but when I am trying to browse the squid server give me DNS time out
[09:49] <L3top> I am simply speaking to the terms of the question as I posed it... and yes... you would know.
[09:49] <kav> thanks Dr_Willis
[09:49] <gzimmerer> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069117/
[09:49] <Dr_Willis> kav:  seems you can use any of the default gnome themes icons without needing to use the full path.
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> notify-send -i printer-error "Printer Is On Fire"
[09:50] <NielsMkn> Priyantha, From what I understood, I can't have a FAT partition since as the laptop starts, the bios searches for a fat partition (which is supposed to be the HP Tools Partition) and it halts there if you don't have the proper data in that partition.
[09:50] <L3top> gzimmerer: that should be fine... but I would have put it someplace else.
[09:50] <L3top> udev is a bit weird... but... should be fine.
[09:50] <Priyantha> cool NielsMkn :)
[09:50] <kav> Dr_Willis : yup !    and thanks you man ... You are great
[09:50] <gzimmerer> L3top: I will move it.
[09:50] <Priyantha> yeah that's true yes NielsMkn
[09:50] <Dr_Willis> kav:  its the alert alias that you are using - that seems to be causing the issue. due to how bash is parseing the alias
[09:50] <Priyantha> you have to have the HP_Tools partition there
[09:50] <Priyantha> or nothing :P
[09:50] <glitsj16> shafi: np, wasn't aware of squid also being in your setup .. i'm afraid i can't help you there
[09:51] <NielsMkn> Priyantha, yeah just learnt that the hard way :P
[09:51] <Priyantha> Is that laptop by the way fully working with Ubuntu hardware-wise ?
[09:51] <kav> Dr_Willis :  i need one more help
[09:51] <shafi> glitsj16, no problem, but this was a gr8 help, I am trying to find out this time out problem
[09:51] <NielsMkn> Yup, everything works totally fine :) (With a few proprietary drivers though)
[09:51] <shafi> Many thanks
[09:51] <L3top> LjL: This was not my understanding. Clearly I defer to your judgment. I was misinstructed.
[09:51] <Priyantha> gheghe cool :) that's nice
[09:52] <NielsMkn> So which model do you use?
[09:52] <kav> Dr_Willis  : how to add password in your bash Script when you working on same machine
[09:52] <Priyantha> I am using a HP Elitebook 8560w
[09:53]  * L3top wonders if that refers to the wattage
[09:53] <Dr_Willis> kav:  not sure what you mean by adding a password.
[09:53] <kav> Dr_Willis   : i want to password for my sudo
[09:53] <glitsj16> shafi: you're welcome .. since 12.04 throws dnsmasq into the mix by default (see http://www.stgraber.org/2012/02/24/dns-in-ubuntu-12-04/) complexities rise a bit .. maybe that page has some info on squid
[09:53] <L3top> kav... again... this is not necessary. You are creating a bad symlink and had weird permissions.
[09:53] <Priyantha> NielsMkn: LY528EA is the exact type
[09:54] <shafi> glitsj16, ok, thanks
[09:54] <NielsMkn> Priyantha, oh so you do have the option to enable UEFI Boot? :O
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> kav:  if the script needs sudo rights, then it should ask for the password as part of the script. or you should run  the script with sudo. you do NOT put a password IN a script. thats security 101 basics. ;)
[09:54] <kav> L3top : but i need  , i want to learn this
[09:55] <L3top> kav then please learn, never send a pass in the clear.
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> kav:  if the script is running specific commands that need sudo rights. you can set up the sudoers file where sudo's password is not needed for specific commands.
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> so i think thats the 3 only options.
[09:55] <kav> Dr_Willis   : ok !
[09:55] <kav> i think that can work
[09:55] <Priyantha> Yes I have NielsMkn :)
[09:55] <Priyantha> but don't use it ;)
[09:56] <NielsMkn> ah, well your laptop is awesome :D Wish I had that one :)
[09:57] <gzimmerer> L3top: to check BIOS I will need to reboot BRB
[09:57] <LjL> L3top: can you answer my PM please? i'd rather discuss this than make it an argument from authority, if you're so inclined
[09:57] <kav> Dr_Willis   : hey is there any system file which can i edit to connect with net setter (USB internet )
[09:57] <Priyantha> haha :)
[09:58] <Priyantha> It's working quite okay now
[09:58] <Priyantha> after some little tweaks
[09:58] <kav> Dr_Willis   : i don't want to connect my net setter using ubuntu API "network Connection"
[09:58] <NielsMkn> oh you had some problems getting ubuntu on it?
[09:59] <jim__c> Can I bring up a degraded nvidia fakeraid 5 using dmraid?
[10:00] <jim__c> The BIOS is happy to boot from it, after giving me a Scary Warning
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> kav:  never heard of 'net setter' so no idea. I just use the normal network manager stuff on my home lans.
[10:00] <jim__c> But dmraid just says "wrong # of devices" and refuses to start it
[10:00] <kav> Dr_Willis   : net setter is like mobile broadband
[10:00] <Dr_Willis> kav:  never used it. Other then basic phone teathering, I only use my home network.
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> time to go to work.. bye all.
[10:01] <kav> Dr_Willis   : Ok !  thanks you very much .... you saved my day .....and bye bye
[10:01] <Priyantha> NielsMkn: yes I had :) it was primary with the graphics
[10:01] <Priyantha> and that is now solved
[10:02] <jim__c> Am I missing something basic, or is dmraid really that broken?
[10:02] <NielsMkn> Priyantha, Cool :D Can't help but feel a bit jealous about the i7 and full hd resolution :P
[10:03] <Priyantha> haha :) sorry :P
[10:03] <Priyantha> I bought in the first place a 8540w with the same screen
[10:03] <Priyantha> but that one broke down
[10:03] <Priyantha> and got this as a replacement
[10:03] <NielsMkn> Wow thats great :D
[10:04] <Priyantha> but only after I had asked and asked for replacement because I didn't had any trust anymore in the older one
[10:04] <Priyantha> :D
[10:04] <DarkSim> Hello, I'm using 12.04 and I'm trying to use a Canon Laser Shot LBP-1120 printer but it doesn't print anything, I don't know what to do anymore
[10:04] <NielsMkn> Interesting so you only paid the price difference or did you have something more? :o
[10:05] <Priyantha> I did not pay anything :)
[10:05] <Priyantha> but the 'old' one was not that old
[10:05] <Priyantha> it was bought in december 2010
[10:05] <Novasun> I want a Autostereoscopic tv
[10:05] <NielsMkn> ah so the price was the same for both?
[10:05] <Priyantha> and in november 2011 it was replaced after dropping it :P and my inssurance paid for that
[10:06] <Priyantha> yes the price was nearly the same yes
[10:06] <Priyantha> same class
[10:06] <Priyantha> and warranty is 3 years
[10:07] <glitsj16> DarkSim: you have the linux driver installed for that printer?
[10:07] <DarkSim> I think I installed a driver called 2.40 from Canon's website
[10:07] <DarkSim> But I am not sure if it really works
[10:07] <NielsMkn> Priyantha, pretty cool :D
[10:08] <kav> Hey ! Priyantha , Novasun , glitsj16 : which is the best server for gaming purpose
[10:08] <Priyantha> yeah it is NielsMkn :D
[10:08] <Priyantha> what kind of server do you mea kav ?
[10:09] <glitsj16> DarkSim: does it show up in CUPS (http://localhost:631)?
[10:09] <Priyantha> well, I think I am going to download a Debian iso :P
[10:09] <glitsj16> DarkSim: sorry typo .. http://localhost:631
[10:10] <Priyantha> I don't think I can get used to the unity interface
[10:10] <DarkSim> glitsj16: Yes
[10:10] <kav> i want to setup server having many client who  can communicate with each other and play on same game
[10:10] <Priyantha> I can't find for example just a simple DPI setting 8)7
[10:10] <kav> Priyantha : is there any server
[10:10] <DarkSim> Would be so much easier if I just could share my desktop with you guys :/
[10:11] <kav> DarkSim : means Remote Assistance
[10:11] <glitsj16> DarkSim: no go when printing test page and/or self test in CUPS?
[10:12] <DarkSim> It says that the print was successful pretty fast
[10:12] <DarkSim> but the printer itself never does anything
[10:12] <L3top> DarkSim: I have power now. Did you remove the other various drivers prior to grabbing the cannon driver?
[10:13] <DarkSim> I am very new to Linux so I guess I haven't done that yet L3top
[10:13] <DarkSim> I don't know how to do that
[10:14] <L3top> If it were me... I would try and get back to scratch. Remove the driver you installed from cannon, and then reverse the steps you took with the site which seemed to lead you down this path to begin with.
[10:14] <L3top> DarkSim: ^
[10:14] <DarkSim> But how do I remove drivers L3top?
[10:15] <L3top> did you download a deb DarkSim?
[10:15] <L3top> Please find the links for me that you used, and I will try and guide you through backing out so we can start fresh.
[10:15] <LjL> kav, there isn't such thing as a "generic" server for gaming that will support any game... you need a specific server for what you want to play - if i understand your question correctly
[10:15] <Saiki> can anyone help me with a shell script?
[10:16] <DarkSim> I don't think I can find those exact downloads again :/
[10:16] <L3top> What is the script and what is it supposed to do Saiki?
[10:17] <Saiki> L3top: I need an option. "Do you wish to continue?" and a simple y/n if yes, run the script. if no, kill it.
[10:17] <L3top> DarkSim: if you are referring to the Canon link... if you can find the file you downloaded that will suffice... the other one was fairly involved... I will need that one. I can backscroll if need be. My irc client has a DB. I can go back to day one. if I gotta.
[10:18] <kav> LjL : Could be a WoW Private Server or a Counter Strike server call of duty the popular games.
[10:18] <DarkSim> L3top: http://www.canon.co.uk/Support/Consumer_Products/products/printers/Laser/Laser_Shot_LBP-1120.aspx?DLtcmuri=tcm:14-846492&page=1&type=download
[10:19] <LjL> kav: well, as i said, you need a WoW server program, a CS server program, or a CoD server program. there is no generic program.
[10:19] <Saiki> kav: Most WoW servers run on windows, other servers you'll have to dig for
[10:19] <qw[UA]> hello all
[10:20] <Novasun>  Xenon servers $0.35 per slot  or gamingdeluxe 12 slots: £15.00
[10:20] <kav> LjL  : O !    is their any popular server which is very useful for  a  beginner to learn
[10:20] <qw[UA]> help me please
[10:20] <computa_mike> quick question : any one know how to install   libMagick++.so.3 onto precise?  it was there in oneric, but the upgrade removed it - It's only one application I get that uses it, so was wondering if there was a process to add it back in, or should I just recompile against   libMagick++.so.4?
[10:20] <DarkSim> Must I have the exact downloads just to remove the drivers?
[10:20] <SilvereX> 7
[10:20] <Novasun> just got back scrolled up :D
[10:21] <qw[UA]> i am install ubuntu 10.04 and i would like update/upgrade my system
[10:21] <jim__c> Or, failing that ^ any bright ideas for converting fakeraid in-place to md? :/
[10:21] <Saiki> kav: What are you trying to do, exactly?
[10:21] <kav> LjL : i'm  a newbie , and i want to learn to set up a small server  in my house {may contain 3 - 4 PC }
[10:21] <LjL> kav: i'm afraid i don't really know, as i'm not into gaming. but i'd start with something that is in the repositories (mostly open source games), try doing "apt-cache search game server | grep server"
[10:22] <Saiki> LjL: most servers won't be found on th repos
[10:22] <Saiki> lJL: not like what he's talking
[10:22] <Saiki> kav: are yu paying attention to me?
[10:23] <LjL> Saiki: well, servers for open source games can. if he wants to "learn", i don't see how that prevents him from learning... if he wants to install proprietary blobs, he can do that without my help ;)
[10:23] <kav> Saiki : yup !
[10:23] <Saiki> kav: What exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[10:23] <Saiki> LjL: granted. but even prop. servers take some work
[10:23] <DarkSim> I think I have tried in total 3 diffrent drivers, no way to remove them all and start fresh without having to find where I downloaded them all
[10:24] <raven> xubuntu 12.04 new installation + nvidia quadro 620: monitor stays black after loading grub
[10:24] <kav> 3 - 4 PC clients connected to my PC , i want to control them using My server
[10:24] <Saiki> LjL: I'm installing a propiatary server right now myself
[10:24] <Eagleman> How to locate where the binary of a command is?
[10:24] <kav> how can i do that ?
[10:24] <L3top> Saiki: http://pastebin.com/gHkgDwMS   try that. I didn't test but should be right.
[10:24] <Saiki> kav: a game server of some sort, or a telnet/ remte controll server?
[10:25] <Saiki> L3top: thank you
[10:25] <kav> ok ! i want to start from beginning then i'll choose a remote controll server
[10:25] <Eagleman> Would this work in crontab?  1        *       *       *       *       init 6
[10:26] <kav> Saiki : after that i'll go with gaming server
[10:26] <Saiki> L3topI can just use Y) someline here  <new like> more code here?
[10:26] <raven> xubuntu 12.04 new installation + nvidia quadro 620: monitor stays black after loading grub what could be wrong??
[10:26] <Saiki> kav:Gaming servers are easier to set up
[10:26] <DarkSim> Maybe I should back the whole OS back to fresh install? Should be faster, no? L3top
[10:27] <Saiki> raven: does the failsafe kernel work?
[10:27] <kav> O ! i that so , ut still i go with remote controll srver
[10:27] <Saiki> kav: That's beyond me. I can't help you there
[10:27] <kav> i willl go with remote controll server
[10:28] <L3top> Saiki: I am not sure I understand your question. I just used echoes to demonstrate the ability to put a command there... You can do whatever you want before the ;;   and Y|y allows upper or lower case. I am not sure I understand your question.
[10:28] <kav> O ! ok ! can you gave me some links regarding remote controll server
[10:28] <L3top> Saiki: oh... and as I made it a function, it will have to be invoked... obviously...
[10:29] <gzimmerer> L3top: I have reviewed the bios NIC and both onboard and docking station are enabled.  Did ifconfig and same result.
[10:29] <joerh99> 怎么没人说话啊
[10:29] <Nicekiwi> how do i copy a folder to my iphone? ive mounted it successfully with ifuse, but the cp command is not working
[10:29] <L3top> !cn | joerh99
[10:29] <Saiki> L3top: this work? http://pastebin.com/UCDFDsnh
[10:29] <kav> !in
[10:29] <Saiki> L3top: I want to go to the directory and run the script, as is
[10:30] <Saiki> L3topso basically: cd /my/place && ./install.sh
[10:30] <raven> Saiki seems to work but the strange thing is: this is a testing machine yet and i installed exactly the same setup yesterday and today again - and yesterday it worked without problems. how could that be?
[10:30] <joerh99> 谢谢
[10:30] <gzimmerer> L3top: I think I have had enough for now... thanks for your help (and apparently you give a lot so double thanks)
[10:30] <joerh99> 哦  原来如此
[10:31] <L3top> yes... if you throw the actual ask_them call where you want it in the rest of the script... and quit should probably be exit 0 Saiki
[10:31] <kav> hey ! LjL are you indian
[10:31] <DarkSim> Can I back a 12.04 install back to a fresh install, or do I have to reinstall it manually?
[10:31] <Saiki> joerh99: ??????????,?????????? ???
[10:31] <Saiki> dangit..
[10:32] <joerh99> 我输入 /join #ubuntu-cn  可是没有反映啊
[10:32] <L3top> DarkSim: If you have nothing else on the machine you could do a fresh install...  but in general one learns from fixing broken things... and when you DO have a ton of data on there, this will not be an option.
[10:32] <DarkSim> Yeah I know
[10:32] <kav> joerh99 : just type /j #ubuntu-cn  and hit enter , a new tab will open and go there
[10:33] <DarkSim> but I did install it yesterday and I do only want Firefox, Spotify and that damn Printer to work first
[10:33] <pale3> I can't find anything on net about monitoring currrent clock rates of gpu with nouveau drivers. Is there solution to this?
[10:33] <L3top> gzimmerer: I am sorry... but it looks like your nic is fried... can you see if you have the /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules ?
[10:33] <LjL> kav, nope
[10:33] <DarkSim> and there doesn't seem to be a way to back installed drivers so I can't really do anything
[10:33] <gzimmerer> sure
[10:33] <kav> so, why are you in #ubuntu-in
[10:33] <Novasun> there are probably cheaper or better ones then the ones ive listed
[10:34] <LjL> kav: because i'm in many channels as i'm an Ubuntu IRC operator
[10:34] <kav> LjL   : O !    that is great .
[10:35] <Saiki> L3top: but if I instructed someone to do that, cp (dir) and run the script. as it stands now, would that work?
[10:35] <kav> LjL :can you list me some best remote control server name ?
[10:35] <Saiki> L3top: ignoring the commands, they will change, obviously
[10:35] <DarkSim> But after I've done the reinstallation can you get me helped with clean from the start L3top?
[10:35] <LjL> kav, stop with the "best" thing, it's all subjective. but what do you mean by "remote control server"?
[10:35] <L3top> It would have to begin with #!/bin/bash     and end with ask_them
[10:35] <L3top> Saiki:
[10:35] <raven> Saiki seems to work but the strange thing is: this is a testing machine yet and i installed exactly the same setup yesterday and today again - and yesterday it worked without problems. how could that be?
[10:35] <DarkSim> If I can't get this printer to work, I have no choice but to install WinXP
[10:36] <Saiki> raven: I heard you
[10:36] <Saiki> raven: my issues issimpler, let me fix mine first. ok?
[10:36] <kav> LjL : Sorry ...    a server to control my clients' activities
[10:36] <raven> ok
[10:37] <innociv> I'm having trouble installing dtrace. "ERROR: /lib/modules/3.2.0-24-virtual/build does not exist".
[10:37] <innociv>   But when I google that, I'm not finding anything useful with my knowledge.
[10:37] <gzimmerer> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069179/ same as before, I think I am going to try to reload XP and see if I can learn HW and driver set or just dual boot as before.
[10:37] <L3top> DarkSim: I am happy to try and help. Either we can try and find the site with all of the stuff you did, but yes... at this point... a fresh install will take about 30 min. You wont need to do anything magic, just during the installer options, choose "Use entire drive" if there are no other OSes on there
[10:38] <LjL> kav: i don't know, something like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagios ?
[10:38] <kav> LjL : what about OpenSSh server , is it good
[10:38] <L3top> gzimmerer: I have about a 81% confidence level that this nic will not appear in windows... unless you have dumped it into a file in /etc/modprobe.d as a blacklist
[10:38] <Saiki> L3top: http://pastebin.com/mph3wJxR
[10:39] <DarkSim> I'll reinstall and immediately come back here so you can help me right from the start
[10:39] <Nicekiwi> how do i copy a folder to my iphone? ive mounted it successfully with ifuse, but the cp command is not working
[10:40] <DarkSim> Cya in 30-60min L3top
[10:40] <Saiki> raven: This isn't my area of knowlage, but I have found that crazily sometimes you can make exact replications and something can be different. In my opinion, it's a matter of luck
[10:40] <Saiki> L3top: like that?
[10:40] <LjL> kav: that's a very basic thing any server should have installed.
[10:40] <kav> LjL : i'm  using SSH and SOCKS to connect internet with my firefox  ... But i don't know how to use OPENSSH server as a Remote Control Server
[10:40] <AkhlD> Nicekiwi, use cp -R :)
[10:41] <Nicekiwi> AkhlD: whats that?
[10:41] <LjL> kav: uh, you just type "ssh hostname", give your password, and then put commands in it remotely like it were a local shell
[10:41] <AkhlD> Nicekiwi, that command recursively copy all contents of folders
[10:41] <Saiki> kav: OPENSSH isn't a "remote controll server" it's a shell connection
[10:41] <Nicekiwi> AkhlD: ahhh sweet
[10:42] <Mlysian> Hi , I am installing lamp stack by terminal, "sudo tasksel install lamp-server". I unable to type in the password
[10:42] <kav> Saiki  : Okkk !
[10:42] <Saiki> kav: have you ever used FTP?
[10:43] <L3top> Saiki: like this http://pastebin.com/s1HUcvwr
[10:43] <kav> Saiki : yup !
[10:43] <LjL> Mlysian: define "unable". does it say it's the wrong password?
[10:43] <Mlysian> no
[10:43] <Saiki> kav: openssh = FTP (but SLIGHTLY different)
[10:43] <Mlysian> it want me try again
[10:43] <Saiki> L3top: thank you
[10:43] <L3top> Saiki: you can literally just drop that into a new text file... name it... say, askem... and type bash askem
[10:44] <kav> !openssh
[10:44] <LjL> Mlysian: then it's saying it's the wrong password. i assume it happens for anything you do with "sudo"?
[10:44] <gzimmerer> L3top:  blacklist is more than I can handle right now.  I am US CTime  Starbucks is about to open I think I'm ready :)  I will raise a glass to you... THANKS L3top!!!
[10:44] <Saiki> L3top: ./askthem.sh should work too, yes?
[10:44] <oCean> Saiki, kav: NO. ssh is nothing like ftp
[10:44] <kav> !ftp
[10:44] <oCean> kav: what is your goal? What are you trying to do
[10:44] <Saiki> oCean: OPENSSH, not ssh
[10:44] <LjL> Saiki: difference being?
[10:44] <L3top> yes Saiki. http://pastebin.com/9e6c1FUN
[10:44] <LjL> Saiki: i thought openssh was an implementation of the ssh services
[10:45] <Novasun> FileAid on your iPhone/iPod touch then start the app  Click on the share Icon then right click Start press Open then right click Start and press Open Enter ftp://(Blank)  In the empty blank area, fill in the IP number port it gives you in the application  look at the app in your iPhone
[10:45] <kav> O god ! you are coonfusing me
[10:45] <Saiki> LjL: always though of ssh being command like. and open as being more FTP-like
[10:45] <oCean> kav: again, what are you trying to do? I'm not sure what "controlling clients activities" means
[10:45] <Novasun> then drag and drop the files
[10:45] <L3top> Saiki: you will want to change that to be an executable to avoid opening with bash. sudo chmod +x askthem.sh
[10:45] <LjL> Saiki: that's not the case to my knowledge. when you install "openssh-client" on an Ubuntu machine, that's what provides the "ssh" command.
[10:46] <kav> ioCean : i want to set up a server like we have in college
[10:46] <oCean> kav: ok, some details?
[10:46] <Saiki> L3top: can that be done and carried over to windows though?
[10:47] <L3top> It is a BorneAgainShellScript... so no. You would need to use a windows scripting language.
[10:47] <Saiki> kav: you mean where they can shut down a PC if you're on somehting they don't want you on?
[10:47] <L3top> *BorneAgainSHell script
[10:48] <kav> details : a server which act as FTP from which my clienst can download , and also manage who log when and when he log out , and what they access
[10:48] <Saiki> oCean: (trying to help you on hat lol)
[10:48] <Saiki> L3top: I mean. I make it on linux, chmod it and then can I copy it to windows and when it goes to a new linux pc it will work as intended?
[10:48] <kav> is there any server for me according to my details
[10:49] <geobilalis> im on Xubuntu, how can i change keyboard layout in order to swith languages when i  type?
[10:49] <L3top> Saiki: ah... I believe that would depend on how you copied it.
[10:49] <Saiki> L3top: openssh server to windos to ISO
[10:50] <L3top> so windows is client?
[10:50] <oCean> kav: I would suggest you start reading here: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/index.html The guide has various very helpful topics
[10:50] <Saiki> L3top: no, linux is client. it's a file I need to share with others
[10:50] <L3top> I really don't know the answer to be honest. I don't even have any windows machines anymore so I can't test... and I mean that you are sshing from windows in putty or something Saiki.
[10:50] <phelipe> help
[10:50] <Saiki> L3top: it's a server setupscript
[10:50] <k0nichiwa> hello ubuntu 8.1 i can't add/remove software, the repositories seem to be bogus or something (specifically Eclipse)
[10:50] <kav> hey ! can any one help me , how to use FileZilla
[10:51] <geobilalis> anyone knows how to change keyboard layout?
[10:51] <dr_willis> !8.10
[10:51] <Saiki> kav: rtfm?
[10:51] <oCean> kav: have you started reading the link I send?
[10:51] <Mlysian> LjL: sudo: tasksel: command not found. This is what I got after typing in the password. The password typing into terminal is invisible?
[10:51] <oCean> Saiki: that is NOT welcome here
[10:51] <k0nichiwa> !upgrade
[10:51] <geobilalis> Mlysian yes it is invisible
[10:51] <k0nichiwa> oh no, i hope the upgrade process is easy
[10:51] <k0nichiwa> or ill have to resinstall the virtual machine =)
[10:52] <Saiki> L3top: I am sshing from windows, but I have physical access to the machine
[10:52] <oCean> k0nichiwa: if you have decent backups, you could reinstall and restore the data you need
[10:52] <Saiki> L3top: I am setting up a server
[10:52] <kav> oCean : yup  ! hey ! i have a doubt , ubuntu launch to two type of falvours 1. ubuntu server 2. desktop ubuntu
[10:52] <LjL> Mlysian: yes, it's invisible
[10:52] <kav> what is the difference
[10:52] <geobilalis> Xubuntu change keyboard layout? i need two languages to swith when pressing alt+shift?
[10:52] <L3top> Saiki: so you are using putty on windows?
[10:52] <k0nichiwa> oCean, yeah thats one way to do it
[10:52] <LjL> Mlysian: and apparently tasksel is not installed by default
[10:52] <Saiki> L3top: WinSCP
[10:53] <Mlysian> LjL:  O
[10:53] <LjL> Mlysian: sudo apt-get install tasksel should get it for you - but maybe there's a reason why it's no longer installed, not sure
[10:53] <Saiki> L3top: graphical, not command line
[10:53] <oCean> kav: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications (webserver etc)
[10:53] <dr_willis> winscp is a must have tool  ;)
[10:53] <L3top> I don't know is the answer frankly... With regards to executable bits on shell scripts pulled from ubuntu onto windows... "probably" is the best answer I can give.
[10:53] <Mlysian> LjL: yes ,I got it from documentation,but can't install
[10:54] <kav> oCean : O !
[10:54] <LjL> Mlysian: what happens when you try
[10:54] <L3top> Saiki: I do not understand the roll or necessity of a windows machine at all.
[10:54] <Saiki> L3top: quess I won't know till I try lol. I have a gunea pig I can test on :P
[10:55] <Mlysian> LjL: after type in the password , sudo: tasksel: command not found
[10:55] <Saiki> L3top: the windows pc is MY pc. the linux pc is a server VM
[10:55] <LjL> Mlysian: i mean after you try doing "sudo apt-get install tasksel"
[10:55] <Saiki> L3top: hence why I am using WinSCP to access it. my windows PC has everthing on i and I'm copying it to the server
[10:55] <kav> !raid
[10:56] <Mlysian> LjL: it show [sudo] password for weng:
[10:56] <kav> hey ! what is software RAID ?    i'm confuse
[10:56] <Mlysian> LjL: I think is my password
[10:56] <oCean> kav: I asked you to start reading the server guide.
[10:57] <kav> oCean : i'm reading that guid , there i found Software Raid and i get confuse
[10:57] <Mlysian> LjL:  whole process  weng@ubuntu:~$ sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[10:57] <Mlysian> [sudo] password for weng:
[10:57] <Mlysian> sudo: tasksel: command not found
[10:57] <Saiki> L3top: make more sense now?
[10:58] <stueng> you know when you are at the desktop and you can click up at the top where it says Ubuntu and "connect to server" how can I start that another way?
[10:58] <LjL> Mlysian, what i'm saying is that BEFORE running tasksel, you need to INSTALL tasksel. that's done with "sudo apt-get install tasksel"
[10:58] <kav> Mlysian : install it ................                            sudo apt-get install tasksel
[10:59] <Mlysian> ok, thanks
[10:59] <L3top> So copy the stuff to the server burn the disk from server vm... growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=/path/to/image.iso       or /dev/sr0 or whatever
[11:00] <L3top> Saiki: ^
[11:00] <NielsMkn> gtg now later
[11:01] <Saiki> L3top: growisofs -Z /update.iso  ?
[11:01] <k0nichiwa> hm im having more sucess installing eclipse now
[11:01] <k0nichiwa> i just added the respository sources from the "upgrade instructions" for 8.1
[11:02] <k0nichiwa> maybe i dont have to upgrade ubuntu
[11:02] <Saiki> L3top: growisofs -Z /update.iso   or is it.. growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=/update.iso ?
[11:02] <oCean> k0nichiwa: please understand that End Of Life also means that you cannot get upgrades/newer versions etc
[11:03] <L3top> well Saiki, you would want to create the iso on linux... so... it gets a bit more complicated... are you trying to make an installable cd/dvd?
[11:03] <k0nichiwa> i c its going to install a really old version of eclipse
[11:03] <oCean> indeed
[11:03] <k0nichiwa> well 2010 version may be ok for me
[11:03] <Saiki> L3top: can im pm you?
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> k0nichiwa  why not upgrade to 12.04 then?
[11:04] <L3top> growisofs -Z /dev/dvd=/home/Saiki/update.iso   for instance... unless update.iso was on the root
[11:04] <L3top> sure
[11:04] <k0nichiwa> i just use this ubuntu for the occassional linux work, its not a main OS for me currently
[11:04] <DarkSim> L3top: I'm back, fresh and all
[11:04] <L3top> woohoo
[11:04] <k0nichiwa> so if i can install eclipse and compile this eclipse project, thats all i need
[11:04] <DarkSim> 269 updates from update manager
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> k0nichiwa  then upgrading to 12.04 may be what you want: better support, newer software, less issues
[11:05] <kav> oCean   , LjL  :  ifconfig -a | grep eth
[11:05] <k0nichiwa> chill out dude, its an OS, its not a cult
[11:05] <kav> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:24:21:a5:a7:a3                        .....................what is  HWaddr 00:24:21:a5:a7:a3        ?   is that my Mac Address
[11:05] <LjL> kav: should be, yes
[11:05] <stueng> you know when you are at the desktop and you can click up at the top where it says Ubuntu and "connect to server" how can I start that another way?
[11:06] <k0nichiwa> ur  pushing 12.1 on me like your a moonie and 12.1 is the unified church
[11:06] <kav> LjL : O !
[11:06] <LjL> k0nichiwa: you mean 12.10? who's pushing 12.10?
[11:06] <DarkSim> Gonna let it install all these updates first
[11:06] <DarkSim> then we shall get things going
[11:06] <k0nichiwa> oh 12.04
[11:06] <k0nichiwa> whatever =)
[11:06] <LjL> k0nichiwa: you can use other versions too, it's just not recommended to use versions that are EOL
[11:07] <DarkSim> Even got some hot water with honey in it, let's get to it!
[11:08] <ragon> hello! can i ask something about "quickly"?
[11:09] <DarkSim> ragon: apparently you never ask about asking a question
[11:09] <DarkSim> just ask the question
[11:09] <ragon> ok! do you know how i can create a "Save as..." dialog with quickly?
[11:10] <Krammer> Hey :) How can I use 7zip software ? I can just use the basic software :/
[11:11] <stueng> apt-get install 7zip ?
[11:11] <oCean> ragon: if no one here nkows, you could try asking in the #ubuntu-app-devel channel
[11:11] <oCean> knows*
[11:12] <ragon> oCean: nice, thanks!
[11:12] <kav> LjL  : what is PPP0 ?
[11:12] <kav> I know that it is  a Point to Point Protocol .But why we use this protocol ? Is this is a mobile BroadBand Protocol ? If so , then where in File System i can found Its System file to configure .
[11:12] <DarkSim> L3top: I will soon be at your disposal, updating soon done
[11:16] <zastaph> there must be 100 ways to get Ubuntu onto a pendrive.. I'm lost
[11:16] <zastaph> whats the benefit of using the pendrive as a live cd? can live cd's be updated?
[11:16] <mi3> zastaph: yes
[11:16] <MonkeyDust> zastaph  unetbootin is the most used way, what issue are you having?
[11:16] <kav> zastaph : use unebootin
[11:17] <zastaph> and my first thought was simply to boot live cd from cdrom, and just choose install directly to the pendrive
[11:17] <mi3> zastaph: and you store the settings too and pendrives are faster then live cd's I'd say.
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> zastaph  the benefit is, that it's faster and you can easily erase the pendrive
[11:17] <zastaph> but them I read about not good idea to have /tmp partition on the drive, better in ram
[11:17] <kav>  what is PPP ?
[11:17] <kav> I know that it is  a Point to Point Protocol .But why we use this protocol ? Is this is a mobile BroadBand Protocol ? If so , then where in File System i can found Its System file to configure .
[11:18] <wylde> !ppp > kav
[11:19] <zastaph> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent/#Method_1:_Installing_Ubuntu_directly_to_USB_drive_from_installer_CD
[11:19] <leonjeru> what's the wiki page for ubuntu, package distribution files ? thanks
[11:19] <zastaph> it describes the problem with /tmp and wear out
[11:19] <zastaph> but I can't seem to find the solution
[11:20] <zastaph> why can't the installer just give you the option during install?
[11:20] <Novasun> pen drives are more secure since they use transistors normal harddrives that are not solid state have residual paramagnetic traces of old data even when wiped
[11:21] <Krammer> stueng : I've add the package with the software-center :/
[11:21] <zastaph> yeah but pendrives wear out
[11:21] <zastaph> so I want swap/tmp in ram
[11:21] <Jonny1> Can anyone help me get Jack audio working, please? I get the errors shown at http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1069211/. Its the same using a usb sound card or the built in one. My setup (the default) is shown at http://picpaste.com/Screenshot_from_2012-07-01_12_16_40.png
[11:21] <Novasun> if you wipe a flash drive it is wiped like if you use kill disk in a live cd
[11:22] <zastaph> I just can't find any docs that tell me how
[11:22] <DarkSim> L3top: I should be ready now!
[11:23] <DarkSim> Clean install and the first batches of updates are done, I am now at your command
[11:24] <Krammer> What is the better ? apt-get remove or apt-get clean ? or other ?
[11:25] <mi3> can someone suggest how the terminal knows in which directory it is when we click on "Open in Terminal " ? which command is it ?
[11:25] <marun> Hi how do i check if my server needs to be rebooted? Is there any flag sort of thing?
[11:25] <oCean> Krammer: those are totally different commands
[11:26] <DarkSim> I hate printers
[11:26] <DarkSim> Don't you?
[11:26] <Krammer> to get 7zip, the command is "sudo apt-get install p7zip-full" ?
[11:26] <Jonny1> mi3: I would guess the terminal would start in its default directory which would be ~ (your home directory). Or maybe it starts in the application directory called by the command you are running
[11:26] <mi3> Jonny1: but which command is it ?
[11:27] <oCean> Krammer: yes, that would install that package
[11:27] <Elchzard> marun: afaik the server will tell you when you login if it needs to be rebooted
[11:27] <Krammer> mi3 : isn't "pwd" ?
[11:27] <Krammer> oCean : yes, I've installed that, but now, what I must do to open 7zip ?
[11:27] <mi3> Jonny1: for example, when I installed nautilus open terminal, it gave me the option "Open in terminal" but how does the terminal come to know that I am in that directory ?
[11:28] <marun> Elchzard:  i wanted to write a script to send me automatic notifications when a server needs to be rebooted. So where can I get the  status from?
[11:29] <notjoe> marun, depends on what you want to use as the trigger to reboot the server
[11:29] <oCean> Krammer: the command is /usr/bin/7z   7z --help shows options (or man 7z)
[11:29] <mschr> Yo, whats up with the HDMI playback for time being?? How come it doesnt 'just-work' :/
[11:29] <Jonny1> mi3:  Sorry I guess I didnt read from the start of your posting. Could you repeat the whole question (all on one line), please?
[11:30] <mi3> Jonny1: sure
[11:30] <mschr> i have tried multiple approaches, none seemed to work. Only thing left for me - given my knowledge of the sound system - is to manually compile alsa
[11:31] <mi3> can someone suggest how the terminal knows in which directory it is when we click on "Open in Terminal " ? which command is it ?
[11:31] <mi3> Jonny1: for example, when I installed nautilus open terminal, it gave me the option "Open in terminal" but how does the terminal come to know that I am in that directory ?
[11:31] <kav> i'm reading PPP , then i came to topic wvdial , i open its conf file ....   i'm still on mobile Broadband (MTS Mblaze) , so why it don't detect my Modem
[11:31] <Krammer> oCean : I cannot use it with Nautilus integration, or like a basic Software ?
[11:31] <ikonia> mi3: what do you mean how it knows ?
[11:31] <ikonia> mi3: it's passwd through dbus to open a terminal in the current working directory
[11:31] <k0nichiwa> whats hdmi playback
[11:31] <mschr> HDMI device shows fine everywhere and modules are loaded, however no audio is sent through.. aplay -D hw:hdmi_ints ..wav ?> channel count not available
[11:31] <kav> please check this file  : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069233/
[11:32] <k0nichiwa> oh its like multiple monitors connected via hdmi cable
[11:32] <Krammer> oCean : O_o 7zip is only usable with Terminal ?
[11:32] <mschr> k0; analog audio playback => mini-jack speakers output, digital audio playback => optical jacks etc.. hdmi => passthrough audio to receiving device
[11:32] <mi3> ikonia: umm when we click on open in terminal, it has to issue some command which will enable it to know which directory it will open
[11:33] <k0nichiwa> mschr, you mean you connect a multimedia system to your machien using an hdmi cable
[11:33] <mschr> aplay -D plughw:hdmi_ints ..wav no error - yet no sound
[11:33] <ikonia> mi3: it's passed through dbus via the desktop
[11:33] <mschr> k0nichiwa yes
[11:33] <k0nichiwa> mschr, have you tried mplayer / vlc ?
[11:33] <mschr> k0nichiwa yes ofc
[11:33] <kav> Try smplayer ...
[11:34] <Jonny1> mi3: I suspect whatever you are running from the GUI is sending  command like /some/path/somefilename. So if you tell it to run in a terminal I would guess the terminal session would run in the directory /some/path as specified in the command sent by the GUI. Sorry if that answer is not helpful
[11:34] <DarkSim> L3top: Are you still there?
[11:34] <k0nichiwa> mschr, any help ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1111396
[11:34] <mschr> discussions about the topic comes in multiples with many many forums
[11:34] <Krammer> Sometimes Windows is better, very better than Linux :/
[11:34] <jim__c> I gave up trying to bring up the raid degraded and restored the metadata from the 3rd disc.
[11:34] <k0nichiwa> well yeah but that shows how to tell mplayer to route to the hdmi
[11:34] <kav> Krammer : what happen ?
[11:34] <jim__c> Now it thinks there are 2 arrays, both degraded :(
[11:35] <k0nichiwa> mschr, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1111396
[11:35] <kav> Krammer : i'll help you
[11:35] <k0nichiwa> oh sorry
[11:35] <k0nichiwa> mschr mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=0.3
[11:35] <MonkeyDust> mschr  maybe this page is useful - i don't use hdmi myself, so it's just a hint http://voices.canonical.com/david.henningsson/2012/04/14/audio-over-hdmi-and-displayport-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[11:35] <mi3> f I want it to open in the Downloads folder, now when I click on open in terminal , it will show that the pwd is /Downloads, how does it do that ? its bcos of dbus ?
[11:35] <k0nichiwa> mschr, have you tried the various -ao possibilities with mplaye r?
[11:35] <mi3> or what ?
[11:35] <ikonia> mi3: the terminal is opened with a current working directory
[11:36] <mi3> ikonia:  then what about open in terminal option ?
[11:36] <ikonia> mi3: what about it ?
[11:36] <Krammer> kav : to have graphical insertion of 7zip :/
[11:36] <L3top> sorry DarkSim
[11:36] <L3top> HERE
[11:36] <mi3> ikonia: http://i.stack.imgur.com/cArXe.png can you explain this to me ?
[11:36] <mschr> k0nichiwa how would i know for sure which hw:x,y is the right one?
[11:36] <mi3> what parameters is it using ?
[11:36] <kav> Krammer : Let me see , wait a minute
[11:36] <L3top> for the most part... 730 am now... give me just a minute to finish this.
[11:37] <Krammer> kav : to have "add to..." and other things in contextual menu
[11:37] <ikonia> mi3: it's opening a terminal with the current working directory as a variable
[11:37] <ikonia> mi3: that variable is passed to the terminal when launching, so ti's current directory is where you are
[11:37] <mi3> ikonia: ok, can it be assigned as a keyboard shortcut
[11:37] <mi3> ?
[11:37] <DarkSim> L3top: Ok :)
[11:37] <ikonia> mi3: not really, as there will be no working directory to pass
[11:37] <ikonia> (assuming I'm understanding what you mean)
[11:37] <mi3> ikonia: umm ok, thanks for the explanation :D
[11:38] <MonkeyDust> mschr  there's also this, seems they found a solution http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1961114
[11:38] <Jonny1> mi3: What are you trying to do?
[11:38] <mi3> I wanted to know how it worked, now I know it uses some variable.
[11:38] <Krammer> kav : thanks :) and there isn't possibility to get PeaZip or like that on uBuntu ?
[11:38] <k0nichiwa> mschr, it probabl isnt the right one for you
[11:38] <mi3> Jonny1: nothing, trying to understand that
[11:38] <L3top> ugh... wifes home... this is gonna be a min DarkSim.
[11:38] <k0nichiwa> mschr, you'd have to research that part some more
[11:38] <DarkSim> L3top: No worries
[11:38] <mi3> Jonny1: thanks to you too
[11:39] <k0nichiwa> mschr, maybe its a device listed in your /dev or whatever
[11:39] <DarkSim> L3top: If I can get this printer to work in the end, it's all worth it
[11:39] <k0nichiwa> that linux directory that lists all the devices on your machine
[11:39] <raven> how to connect virtual box with a 26 i/o audio card (pci)?
[11:40] <kav> Krammer : in ubuntu their is a Tool 7zip
[11:40] <k0nichiwa> mschr, obviously you can make some guesses and try all the possibilities pretty quickly
[11:40] <k0nichiwa> mschr, another thing ive found with alsa if you are using that
[11:40] <kav> Krammer : what you want from it
[11:40] <k0nichiwa> is that alsa for me would somtimes have various outputs and inputs set to 0 volume
[11:40] <k0nichiwa> i think it was alsactl in a terminal that would let you control that
[11:40] <Krammer> kav : not have to use Terminal for 7zip
[11:41] <Krammer> kav : graphical insertion like in Windows
[11:41] <kav> actually , you don't need temianl for that
[11:42] <nicholaspugh> What channel should i join to ask about drivers?
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> nicholaspugh  try #ubuntu
[11:42] <kav> Krammer : just right click on that you want to encompress , it will encompress
[11:42] <Krammer> Kav : and how I do that think ?
[11:42] <Krammer> kav : I can't do that :/
[11:43] <kav> which distro are you using ?
[11:43] <nicholaspugh> Alrighty. Where is a good place to get drivers for a netgear n600 wireless N Adapter?
[11:43] <Saiki> what does this do?: fromdos /home/*.sh
[11:43] <Krammer> kav : yes I can do that, but there isn't so many options like 7zip software
[11:44] <Jonny1> mi3: OK. When you click on an application, you are actually calling a shortcut. For example, /some/path/somefilename which has been set up in the shortcut. If you are running gnome you can see this by editing the applications menu and looking at one of the shortcuts for an application. I dont know how to that in unity. If you selected an option to run in terminal then I am not sure if the terminal would run in your home directory ~ or would r
[11:44] <kav> choose .zip , if you want to that stuff on windows
[11:44] <mschr> i was noticing some bumping 'ticks' on my TV over hdmi once i turn up volume 50% + (very loud). Reinstalled fglrx with one shipped on ubuntu repositories and now its gone (thumbing). yet still no audio
[11:44] <kav> Krammer : ubuntu offer you many functionality to comtpress
[11:45] <mi3> Jonny1: ok, understood, meaning the parameter cannot be assigned to the shortcut in this case, but it can be assigned only to the open-in-terminal, right
[11:45] <kav> Krammer : Enjoy Ubuntu !        Feel its Power , you can't imagine what are you using .....Aha !!!
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> Saiki  in a terminal, type apt-cache show tofrodos     to find out what it's for
[11:46] <Krammer> kav : I'm just realising that WinRAR is just the better unarchiver x)
[11:47] <Krammer> kav : better than 7zip, even on Windows, because we can use Profiles :p
[11:47] <kav> Krammer : well, you need to spend time on ubuntu .
[11:47] <Saiki> MonkeyDust thank you
[11:48] <kav> Krammer : which Ubuntu version  you have
[11:48] <Saiki> MonkeyDust: some of these things I'm seeing are completely new to me
[11:48] <Jonny1> mi3: Yes I think so. You might be able to tell the application you are using to run in a certain directory. Then if you run it in a terminal, the terminal might also run in that directory. Again, I am guessing so someone else correct me please.
[11:48] <mschr> k0nichiwa, MonkeyDust thx but sadly none of the above forum threads is the solution
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> Saiki  that's called 'learning'
[11:49] <Saiki> MonkeyDust: something like that :P
[11:49] <Krammer> kav : last times I've spent more time on uBuntu than on Windows, but I'm finding huge defaults of ubuntu which I haven't on other OS :D
[11:49] <Krammer> kav : Euhhhh... 12.04 I think :D
[11:49] <kav> Krammer : are you using Laptop or Desktop for Ubuntu .Which one ?
[11:49] <mi3> Jonny1: yeah, thanks for the explanation, I think I will stay with my present pwd when the terminator starts :D
[11:49] <mschr> the HDMI output device lists fine with aplay -l and pacmd list-sinks both an analogue and the hdmi sinks
[11:49] <Krammer> kav : Laptop Acer Aspire 7741G :p
[11:50] <kav> Krammer : o ! nice
[11:50] <Krammer> kav : why ? x)
[11:50] <kav> krammer : what is your battery backup on ubuntu
[11:51] <kav> krammer : i think atmost 1.5 hours
[11:51] <Saiki> MonkeyDust: in this case it's more "monkey see, monkey do"
[11:51] <vato__> hi
[11:51] <Krammer> kav : Only AC :p never use without battery, but with other OS, I can watch 2 movies in one battery life
[11:52] <m0ss> I just made a bootable USB thumb drive in Mac OS X and I can't boot from it..
[11:52] <mschr> card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC663 Analog [ALC663 Analog]; card 1: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI] and then
[11:52] <Krammer> kav : (in economical power)
[11:52] <mschr>  aplay -D plughw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav no error, has playback
[11:52] <m0ss> My macbook isn't recognizing it after reboot.
[11:52] <mschr>  aplay -D plughw:1,3 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav no error, No playback
[11:52] <kav> krammer : ubuntu has less compatibility with hardware
[11:53] <Novasun> is it supposed to auto boot the usb?
[11:53] <kav> krammer : Ubuntu now saying , that they removed that problem in 12.10
[11:53] <Saiki> MonkeyDust:I'm loking at pre-made scripts
[11:53] <VirtualBlackness> ok DarkSim... printer model please
[11:53] <mpma__> Hello everyone
[11:53] <geobilalis> How can i add more apps in the XUBUNTU dock???
[11:53] <kav> Krammer : in 12.10 , you may get more battery backup
[11:53] <Krammer> kav : before I've formated all my HDD (3 days ago), no hardware problem with both OS
[11:53] <DarkSim> VirtualBlackness: Canon Laser Shot LBP-1120
[11:54] <Krammer> kav : yes, I've 12.04 LTS
[11:54] <DarkSim> L3top: ^
[11:55] <Krammer> kav : and I can upgrade without lose data ?
[11:55] <kav> krammer : LTS means you ubuntu version will pay more attention than others in term of time
[11:55] <geobilalis> support etc
[11:55] <m0ss> Novasun
[11:55] <m0ss> its not supposed to, i press alt/option on boot
[11:55] <m0ss> but it only recognizes my main hard drive
[11:55] <DarkSim> L3top: Canon Laser Shot LBP-1120
[11:55] <SkippersBoss> !patience | geobilalis
[11:55] <kav> Krammer : if you on 11.04 , even then you can upgrad without loss of data
[11:56] <L3top> What country are you in DarkSim
[11:56] <DarkSim> Sweden
[11:56] <SkippersBoss> geobilalis, You want to add another launcher to the panel ??
[11:56] <Krammer> kav : so LTS is for Laptop ?
[11:56] <m477> have can I check if I have installed java JRE and JDK?
[11:57] <DarkSim> L3top: Sweden
[11:57] <SkippersBoss> I guess not hmm
[11:57] <kav> krammer : Haha !   well may be .. It designed for both desktop and Laptop
[11:57] <Krammer> kav : maybe in one year when i'll go to university I'll happy to have more autonomy :D
[11:58] <raven> how to connect virtual box with a 26 i/o audio card (pci)?
[11:58] <kav> Krammer : take an example of MAC , if you have MAC then your Battery Backup will more if you install window / ubuntu on MAC system
[11:58] <Krammer> kav : I have not all understood on "LTS means you ubuntu version will pay more attention than others in term of time" :/
[11:59] <glitsj16> mschr: have you tested each subdevice on your hdmi card yet? it might be a different subdevice than 1,3
[11:59] <kav> Krammer : take an example of MAC , if you have MAC on mac system then your Battery Backup will more compare to when you install window / ubuntu on MAC system
[11:59] <kav> Krammer : LTS : Long Time Support
[12:00] <Krammer> kav : and there is a link between LTS and battery backup ?!
[12:00] <mschr> glitsj16 there is only the one for card 1
[12:00] <kav> Krammer : 8.10 is not LTS , after few years Ubuntu will stop making packages for 8.10
[12:01] <L3top> DarkSim: what does Handböcker mean in English?
[12:01] <kav> LTS and Battery BAckup has no link
[12:01] <Krammer> kav : ooh, I understand now :)
[12:01] <mschr> glitsj16 i know it looks odd and i also find it weird, that the device # starts with 3
[12:01] <DarkSim> L3top: Basically it means a guide/manual
[12:01] <kav> krammer : any other problem
[12:02] <glitsj16> mschr: can you pastebin aplay -l please, or provide a link to it if you already done that
[12:02] <Krammer> kav : but maybe in some years, 12.04 LTS will not be continued to have package ? (bad sentance :D)
[12:02] <dr_willis> !lts
[12:02] <mschr> glitsj16 thing is, plughw:1,3 has a pause, says 'playing WAVE' but nothing is heard
[12:02] <kav> well , i think it will be supported till 2017
[12:02] <SkippersBoss> !lts | krammer
[12:03] <glitsj16> mschr: device #'s for hdmi usually do start at 3, but what is weird is only 1 subdevice
[12:03] <L3top> DarkSim: Does that look right? http://www.canon.se/Support/Consumer_Products/products/printers/Laser/Laser_Shot_LBP-1120.aspx?DLtcmuri=tcm:87-846510&page=1&type=download
[12:03] <Krammer> Okay, I think I've understood that :)
[12:03] <pity123> hello
[12:04] <DarkSim> L3top: Yeah, that's my printer alright
[12:04] <mschr> glitsj16 i have an onboard sound device, a dedicated video card. fglrx provides the HDMI card
[12:04] <L3top> go ahead and dl DarkSim
[12:04] <kav> krammer : Aha ! o god !  i think we are of same age   , i want to go in  university : (     . ... in a good university
[12:04] <L3top> DarkSim: go to bottom and accept the mile of agreements
[12:05] <kav> krammer : Aha !    , happy ubuntu
[12:05] <DarkSim> L3top: File downloaded
[12:05] <glitsj16> mschr: okay, what i was thinking: your card does have several subdevices, but pulseaudio configuration uses the wrong one, so no error + no sound
[12:06] <L3top> mschr: does sudo speaker-test -c 2 -t sine -l 1 -D hw:1,3           make noise?
[12:06] <mschr> http://pastebin.com/zQ6MLbWj
[12:06] <glitsj16> mschr: thanks, checking
[12:06] <kav> dr_willis : read this http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069233/
[12:06] <mschr> l3top nop
[12:07] <Krammer> kav : another problem, I don't have microphone on skype
[12:07] <Krammer> kav : but on PulseAudio, I can talk easily
[12:08] <kav> dr_willis : i'm using MTS MBlaze ( PPP modem)    , but when i use wvdial.conf   , it doen't detect my modem
[12:08] <kav> krammer : i never use skype    ...          Sorry !
[12:08] <pollymath> part
[12:09] <mschr> glitsj16 oh and btw hda-intel module gets 3stack-dig however i dont think it has anything to do with it
[12:09] <dr_willis> kav ive not used a dialup modem in 13+ years
[12:09] <L3top> mschr: can you add      options snd-hda-intel model=auto        to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf      at the end and then sudo alsa reload
[12:09] <Krammer> erf... somebody can help me ? I cannot use microphone on Skype, but I can use it on PulseAudio !
[12:09] <kav> dr_willis : O !
[12:09] <L3top> mschr: then speakertest again
[12:09] <mschr> l3top same story, no audio
[12:10] <glitsj16> mschr: l3top has loads more knowledge on this, forget what i was saying (that referred to nvidia)
[12:10] <kav> L3top : please took here http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069233/    ,i'm using MTS MBlaze ( PPP modem)    , but when i use wvdial.conf   , it doesn't detect my modem
[12:10] <L3top> mschr: can you put a hash # in front of what I just gave you and put options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=0 index=-2  in there instead... and sudo alsa reload  and then speakertest
[12:11] <L3top> dunno anything about that kav...
[12:11] <L3top> DarkSim: I have a terrible connection. I am almost done
[12:12] <kav> La3top  : Ok !
[12:12] <L3top> mschr: there are no error messages or warnings at the beginning when you do alsa relaod right
[12:12] <mschr> l3top Terminating processes: 9142lsof: WARNING: can't stat() fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon file system /home/mschr/.gvfs
[12:13] <mschr> 4 warnings on gvfs
[12:13] <kav> !gvfs
[12:13] <L3top> Can you reboot please mschr and speakertest
[12:13] <sasho> what is the best antyVirus sofware ?
[12:13] <oCean> !av | sasho
[12:14] <mschr> aye captain :)
[12:14] <jim__c> ok, the raid is restored to life
[12:15] <sasho> :)
[12:15] <L3top> DarkSim: have you extracted that archive yet?
[12:15] <jim__c> now I have to find my wife's backup drive and get her to move her stuff off it
[12:15] <jim__c> because my own is not big enough for everything I need to back up
[12:15] <sasho> the bot is good mate
[12:15] <DarkSim> L3top: Yes
[12:16] <jim__c> congratulations dmraid, for simultaneously convincing me once and for all I don't want to be using you and making it very difficult to stop
[12:17] <L3top> DarkSim: uname -m
[12:17] <mschr> l3top the msi switch renders no-cards-found
[12:17] <DarkSim> L3top: Should I just write that in terminal?
[12:17] <compdoc> pssst: dmraid is not alive
[12:17] <mschr> [    8.484915] snd_hda_intel: `-' invalid for parameter `index'
[12:18] <L3top> can you hash that and unhas the last and reboot please... (sorry... alsa is... annoying this way)
[12:18] <L3top> DarkSim: ^
[12:18] <DarkSim> I'm not sure I get what you want me to do L3top
[12:18] <sasho> #electronics
[12:18] <jim__c> compdoc, why do you think I'm trying to convert to mdraid in the first place?
[12:18] <L3top> type uname -m DarkSim
[12:18] <L3top> tell me what it says please DarkSim
[12:19] <L3top> DarkSim: in a terminal
[12:19] <DarkSim> L3top: i686
[12:19] <kav> L3top : what  is the difference between gksu and gksudo ?
[12:19] <AndroidBeing> am trying to configure xdmcp with lightdm, have added "[XDMCPServer] enabled=true" but it doesn't work, is there anything else I need to change?
[12:19] <miadbahrami> how to recover my file in ubuntu & linux ?
[12:19] <mschr> gawd i love ssd :)
[12:20] <ircnode0> I unmute and maximize everything (except rear mic boost), but there are no sound?
[12:20]  * miadbahrami how to recover my file in ubuntu & linux ?
[12:20] <L3top> DarkSim: in terminal, please navigate to the extracted directory, the the 32bit directory then the Ubuntu directory
[12:20] <compdoc> mschr, ssd is nice, but make sure you enable trim in fstab
[12:20] <ircnode0> with alsamixer
[12:20] <mschr> l3top no noise
[12:20] <mschr> compdoc ?
[12:21] <ircnode0> can I do something to get sound back?
[12:21] <compdoc> http://askubuntu.com/questions/18903/how-to-enable-trim
[12:21] <L3top> mschr: amixdigital=$(amixer | grep "Simple" | cut -d' ' -f4,5,6 | sort | uniq); for output in $amixdigital; do amixer sset $output unmute; done 2>/dev/null; alsactl store
[12:21] <compdoc> mschr ^
[12:21] <mschr> options snd-hda-intel enable_msi=0 is valid, cards are listed but no hdmi audio
[12:21] <DarkSim> L3top: I'll try and navigate with terminal, haven't done that yet though
[12:21] <mschr> compdoc what does it do?
[12:21] <L3top> DarkSim: what browser did you use to download?
[12:21] <DarkSim> L3top: Firefox
[12:22] <L3top> DarkSim: cd ~/Downloads
[12:22] <compdoc> mschr, trim is a method of deleting data that ensures the ssd drive lives a long life
[12:22] <L3top> did you extract it with ark there?
[12:22] <mschr> ahuh
[12:22] <DarkSim> just had to change downloads with hämtningar
[12:22] <L3top> mschr: aplay -l | grep -i hdmi
[12:22] <DarkSim> gonna be a pain with swedish words, but I hope you can endure
[12:23] <mschr> l3top yea, none muted neither :p
[12:23] <L3top> lol
[12:23] <L3top> mschr: just checkin
[12:24] <L3top> mschr: lspci -nn | grep VGA   please
[12:24] <DarkSim> L3top: is the Debian folder the Ubuntu folder?
[12:24] <L3top> sorry Debian yes DarkSim... not ubuntu
[12:25] <m0ss> does ubuntu support EFF
[12:25] <DarkSim> L3top: I am now in the debian folder in the 32-bit driver folder in terminal
[12:25] <mschr> l3top: http://pastebin.com/zQ6MLbWj && 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series [1002:95c4]
[12:26] <L3top> DarkSim: sudo dpkg -i cndrvcups-common_2.40-1_i386.deb cndrvcups-capt_2.40-1_i386.deb
[12:27] <L3top> ERg...
[12:27] <L3top> mschr: lsmod | grep fglrx
[12:27] <DarkSim> L3top: How do I know if it did everything correctly?
[12:27] <L3top> It will install
[12:27] <L3top> and not yell at you
[12:28] <L3top> mschr: does that return an output?
[12:28] <mschr> l3top yes
[12:28] <mschr> Driver version: 8.95-1202414a-134397C-ATI
[12:28] <L3top> mschr: You cannot run that driver
[12:29] <mschr> fglrx loaded and linked with agpgart
[12:29] <L3top> mschr: In the infinite wisdom of ATI, you must use the radeon driver.
[12:29] <mschr> hmm
[12:29] <L3top> One moment
[12:29] <DarkSim> L3top: This is basically what came out http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069318/
[12:29] <DarkSim> I ran it through google translate to fix the swedish words, hopefully it's still readable
[12:30] <L3top> DarkSim: sudo apt-get install libglade2-0
[12:30] <mschr> l3top radeon driver is xorg default fallback right?
[12:31] <DarkSim> L3top: Done with that command
[12:31] <L3top> mschr: they are incompatable... you will have to purge and reload a heap of stuff unfortunately...
[12:31] <muelli> DarkSim: if you ran "export LC_ALL=C" beforehand, you'd have everything in proper English
[12:32] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[12:32] <DarkSim> I'm very new to Linux and I'd want the menus to be in Swedish since it's for my father
[12:33] <L3top> DarkSim: that command is just for the session
[12:33] <Saiki> DarkSim: change the system langage to sweedish and reboot. the system should ask if you want to convert the folders
[12:33] <DarkSim> L3top: I should've said I have executed it
[12:34] <DarkSim> My folders are in swedish, most of them already
[12:34] <L3top> one second mschr not forgotten you... just trying to do both of these things at once
[12:34] <mschr> l3top im quite certain that i heard people over on #ati having audio working with fglrx..
[12:34] <zastaph> what's the difference of installing Ubuntu to pendrive between using Unetbootin or the "Startup Disk Creator" from Ubuntu self?
[12:34] <L3top> Not on that chipset in 1204 mschr
[12:34] <L3top> check with them.
[12:35] <L3top> mschr: before I give you these commands I am looking for the notice of support drop to confirm
[12:35] <L3top> mschr: that is why it is taking me forever
[12:36] <L3top> mschr: I may be confused...
[12:36] <mschr> oh but i have no issue with trying out the radeon driver
[12:36] <mschr> i'd just be happier with fglrx running as should
[12:36] <L3top> mschr: Yes... sorry... I am wrong... it is not till the 12-5 catalyst... this is the 12-4 equiv in repo.
[12:36] <L3top> I think
[12:37] <L3top> bah.
[12:37] <L3top> DarkSim: did you sudo apt-get install libglade2-0
[12:37] <DarkSim> L3top: Yes
[12:37] <L3top> DarkSim: sudo dpkg -i cndrvcups-common_2.40-1_i386.deb
[12:38] <DarkSim> L3top: Done
[12:38] <L3top> no errors?
[12:38] <MK`> My ram got low and so ubuntu started allocating some things to swap. Now that my ram usage is down, it still shows 5% swap in use, is there a way for me to transfer that out of swap?
[12:39] <DarkSim> L3top: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1069329/
[12:39] <DarkSim> L3top: Doesn't seem like an error to me at least
[12:39] <L3top> DarkSim: sudo dpkg -i cndrvcups-common_2.40-1_i386.deb
[12:40] <DarkSim> L3top: Same things as before
[12:40] <djiefo> Hi, how to install gnome themes comming in zip file? thru 12.04 thx
[12:40] <L3top> Does anyone know if you need to reload cups or anything after installing printer drivers?
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> djiefo  unzip, then install, or is that not exactly what you mean
[12:41] <wdp> is there a way, to limit the kernels and files in /boot in ubuntu?
[12:41] <L3top> just fyi mschr http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_catalyst_legacy2&num=1
[12:41] <djiefo> MonkeyDust,  it's not that simple...
[12:42] <Mlysian> Hi, where is my file location after install lamp server by terminal
[12:42] <wdp> I used to have /boot on a separate partition since I use linux, usually like 150 MB for /boot. So I did when I installed my mom ubuntu. The problem is now, /boot runs full, hence my question if it's possible to keep only the current kernel and the one before that as fallback (automatic)
[12:42] <L3top> mschr: has that other one out... I will find a better msi for your specific card... I am almost done with Dar
[12:42] <DarkSim> L3top: I think you have to, I remember reading that somewhere
[12:43] <Sparky_> ARGHH
[12:43] <L3top> DarkSim: just reboot... if you dont mind... I just like reboots. Nobody else does.
[12:43] <DarkSim> Oh ok
[12:43] <DarkSim> Rebooting
[12:43] <mschr> whats msi short of
[12:44] <uzumati> what's up fellas
[12:44] <Sparky_> Whenever I open the Ubuntu Software Center, I get an error, Over and Over and Over again! "Items cannot be installed or removed until the package catalog is repaired. Do you want to repair it? 'Once Update Manager has finished the repairs, you can close it and return to the store.'"
[12:45] <djiefo> MonkeyDust,  when I extract, it gives me 2 files (1 tar.gz and 1 .emerald)
[12:45] <L3top> The index address... I was just giving you quick cheats that work for almost every nvidia thing out there... and some ati... thats why I asked about the GPU, and then thought (mistakenly) that the fglrx could have been the problem. I do not believe it is teh case... I have to find the matrix for individual doodads.
[12:45] <L3top> mschr: ^
[12:45] <DarkSim_> L3top: Done
[12:45] <L3top> Lets try and print.
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> Sparky_  avoid expressions like "Over and Over and Over again" -  in a terminal try sudo apt-get install -f        -f means fix
[12:45] <Sparky_> lol
[12:46] <DarkSim_> Gonna start up the printer
[12:46] <alankila> Sparky_: command-line time. Try 'sudo apt-get update', see if it's more illuminating about what goes wrong
[12:46] <Sparky_> ok
[12:46] <bencc> how can I measure cpu and ram usage during a load test?
[12:47] <L3top> bencc: top
[12:47] <DarkSim_> L3top: I can't see my printer
[12:47] <Sparky_> Command-line? How do I get to that?
[12:47] <L3top> one moment DarkSim
[12:47] <MonkeyDust> Sparky_  a terminal, ctrl-alt-t
[12:47] <Sparky_> ah
[12:48] <Sparky_> Yeah I know Terminal lol
[12:48] <bencc> L3top: can I save top results to a file?
[12:48] <Sparky_> Argh
[12:49] <Sparky_> "Your computer has 0 bytes disc space left"
[12:49] <vlt> bencc: "top -n 1" or something like that. See manpage.
[12:49] <uzumati> Anyone can you tell me how to get sensor for Intel HD 3000  VGA ?
[12:49] <Sparky_> Ubuntu hasn't been pleasing me lately -_-
[12:49] <bencc> vlt: L3top: thanks
[12:49] <MonkeyDust> bencc  top | tee blah      then you see top and it creates a file called blah
[12:50] <anon_> Would it be possible for the developers of Ubuntu to integrate Yacy into Ubuntu so even Ubuntu beginners don'tg have to use Google anymore ? http://yacy.net
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> anon_  what's yacy?
[12:51] <Sparky_> Aff
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> !brainstorm| anon_
[12:51] <anon_> MonkeyDust, it is an anonymous, distributed search engine.
[12:51] <Sparky_> When I installed Ubuntu, I installed it alongside XP, and XP is taking up all my disc space, how do I delete it?
[12:51] <MonkeyDust> anon_  you mean like duckduckgo?
[12:52] <anon_> MonkeyDust, with it you can search the Internet anonymously whereas Google tracks your every move.
[12:52] <RAITAR> I also want to ask this question
[12:52] <aristidesfl> I restarted my machine and now can't connect via ssh `ssh: connect to host <IP_ADDRESS> port 22: Connection refused`
[12:52] <Sparky_> <IP_ADDRESS> is a local IP
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> anon_  offtopic: https://duckduckgo.com/privacy.html
[12:52] <aristidesfl> Sparky_ I'm in a local network
[12:52] <mschr> l3top perhaps this will help ? http://pastebin.com/jyXGDyEK
[12:53] <anon_> If Linux is the counterpart to Windows then yacy is the counterpart to Google yacy.ne
[12:53] <anon_> net
[12:53] <tehNewb> hi guys/girls
[12:53] <anon_> MonkeyDust, is duckduckgo distributed or in the hand of one organization?
[12:53] <anon_> yacy.net
[12:53] <tehNewb> i'm new at ubuntu and have a little problem. can someone explain me why i can't start the live version of ubuntu on my laptop?
[12:53] <tehNewb> it works at my pc
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> anon_  guess you can read it on the ddg pages
[12:54] <Sparky_> UGH
[12:54] <tehNewb> but the laptops wont boot from usb stick.. but i changed it in the bios :s
[12:54] <aristidesfl> Sparky_ I've disabled gnome but have xorg enabled, how can I access a terminal?
[12:55] <Sparky_> Can someone tell me how to clear my disc so I can install Ubuntu with a completely clean slate?
[12:55] <thaurwylth> I've had problems with mini laptop stick boot as well earlier. Live CD worked.
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> Sparky_  use gparted, delete the partition you need
[12:55] <thaurwylth> This was with 11.10. With 12.04, also the stick started working.
[12:55] <Sparky_> aristidesfl, I dunno o_o I'm no Ubuntu wiz, I started using it yesterday lol
[12:55] <Sparky_> I wanna just delete it all
[12:55] <Sparky_> I don't have anything important on my computer
[12:55] <Sparky_> lol
[12:56] <thaurwylth> So in a nutshell the answer would be, laptop stick boot works in mysterious ways.
[12:56] <anon_> MonkeyDust, as expected it is in the hand of one organization. Promises of privacy are nonsense.
[12:56] <tehNewb> @laurwylth my netbook has no cd drive
[12:56] <aristidesfl> Sparky_ use the installation disk/usb
[12:56] <Sparky_> I have a USB with Ubuntu on it, I just don't know how to wipe my computer clean of everything
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> anon_  you can use brainstorm then, type !brainstorm to repeat the factoid
[12:57] <thaurwylth> Sparky, you can do that during the installation.
[12:57] <Sparky_> Really?
[12:57] <Sparky_> How do I do it?
[12:57] <thaurwylth> Yes. You don't need to pre-empty yuour machine.
[12:58] <thaurwylth> Wait a second.
[12:58] <Sparky_> Oh how convinient lol
[12:58] <anon_> !brainstorm
[12:58] <DarkSim> How is it going over there L3top?
[13:00] <thaurwylth> http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/dual-boot-windows-7-and-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/   <== ctrl + f Next, choose the option highlighted below (Something else) and click ‘Continue’
[13:00] <alexander_> how to make dell latitude e5520 see its own mic?
[13:00] <thaurwylth> That third option, the Something else option, allows you to reallocate disk space.
[13:00] <Sparky_> o.o
[13:00] <thaurwylth> At that point, you can wipe out all existing stuff from the disk.
[13:00] <Sparky_> Could you put that in noob language XD
[13:01] <thaurwylth> Let's see. I'm not sure whether there's a thorough tutorial of it online.
[13:01] <Sparky_> Hrm :/
[13:02] <Sparky_> Dual boot windows 7 and Ubuntu?  At least regular Ubuntu install does that. Then --
[13:02] <thaurwylth> Dual boot is not important here.
[13:03] <Sparky_> Ok
[13:03] <thaurwylth> The image of the three options was what I was after.
[13:03] <thaurwylth> I just recalled that it is conveniently on that page.
[13:03] <Sparky_> So, I guess I will just plugin my USB and install and hope for the best :3
[13:03] <thaurwylth> Wait a second.
[13:03] <Sparky_> Mm?
[13:03] <thaurwylth> You will first need to make some notes on how to set up the disk space.
[13:03] <Sparky_> oh ok
[13:03] <thaurwylth> Or make sure that you have another computer with IRC available.
[13:04] <Sparky_> lol I do
[13:04] <thaurwylth> Oh, then you can fire away, I guess.
[13:04] <Sparky_> Ok :P
[13:04] <Sparky_> Wish me luck XD
[13:05] <thaurwylth> Just remember that 'Something else' option, it will allow you to do stuff for the disk space.
[13:06] <thaurwylth> My choices, which I guess are hugely old-fashioned today, are typically a tri-partition of the disk: one part for /, one part for swap and one, the biggest part for /home .
[13:07] <alexander_> why is Settings->Sound->Input disabled (dell lat. e5520)?
[13:07] <thaurwylth> But hey, people, I actually came here because I have a question myself. This is about Win 7 double-boot. Please allow me to skim through the Code of Conduct and FAQ first...
[13:10] <HelloWorld321> alexander_ : probably because it doesn't detect your microphone ((sound input device)
[13:11] <thaurwylth> OK. Here goes. My problem is sort of this backwards. 'I installed Windows (or another Operating System) and now I can't get into Ubuntu! See the RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows page.' Let me elaborate.
[13:11] <DarkSim> L3top: Are you here?
[13:11] <HelloWorld321> alexander_: do you have one?
[13:11] <[dlp]> Hi all... is there a PPA for more up-to-date mainline kernels?
[13:11] <[dlp]> The daily build PPA looks defunct.
[13:11] <alexander_> yes, according to specifications it comes with one (or many)
[13:12] <LjL> !mainline | [dlp]
[13:12] <[dlp]> Thanks.
[13:12] <thaurwylth> This machine has two disk and FIRST, Win 7 was installed on one and both disks were made NTFS. Then I - without doing anything pre-emptive for the disks inside Windows, sorry for this - stuck in Ubu 12.04 Live and made the empty disk NTFS ==> Ext4 and installed Ubuntu there and GRUB to the boot sector of the remaining Windows disk. TO BE CONTINUED --
[13:13] <automaciej> I'm trying to track down the current state of pitivi. There's a bug which says "fix released". https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pitivi/+bug/1001516 -- but this is only to precise-proposed. There's a page with an automatically generated list of packages in the process of SRU: http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html -- and it doesn't mention pitivi.
[13:14] <thaurwylth> Now GRUB boots just fine, Ubuntu boots just fine, and I have set also the Windows disk to mount to Ubuntu via /etc/fstab . CONTINUED --
[13:14] <thaurwylth> However, when I tried to do a Windows boot, it crashes. I guess this is due to the other disk being 'done stuff to' so that the Windows system information is now incompatible.
[13:15] <thaurwylth> The Windows install I have there is fresh, so I could just well do another install, but I'd try to avoid it, if possible, because then I will have to do also a GRUB reinstall. So are there any easier workarounds for me?
[13:16] <BluesKaj> thaurwylth, grub should have been installed on the kubuntu disk , it would have detected the windows mbr on the other disk , if not sudo update-grub would probly have picked it up
[13:16] <HelloWorld321> alexander_: I've gotten you as far as I go (I don't go very far).  You probably need to install drivers for your sound device.  Find out what sound device you have, and then ask again how to install it.
[13:17] <thaurwylth> Yes, it recognizes the Windows boot just fine. The problems start, when the Windows boot loader kicks in.
[13:19] <BluesKaj> thaurwylth, the mistake was to install grub in the windows boot sector
[13:19] <thaurwylth> This is only me guessing, but I think that the problem is as follows. Windows has stored system information and it thinks that hey, by golly, I should have two NTFS disks here. However, since my Ubuntu installation this has changed. So system information does not match with existing reality ==> crash.
[13:19] <thaurwylth> I see.
[13:20] <DarkSim> Craaaaap
[13:21] <achirura_> hey i'm using Xubuntu and i've got Creative Soundblaster 5.1 Vx soundcard my problem is when i try to listen music or talk in skype sounds coming 2x faster or more and i cant really understand whats going on... anyone can help me?
[13:21] <BluesKaj> installing grub on the kubuntu disk as if it was an independent install works , grub will pick up thgew windows mbr on the other disk during the grub update
[13:21] <BluesKaj> thaurwylth, ^
[13:22] <thaurwylth> So you don't think changing one of the disks from NTFS to Ext4 is part of the problem at all?
[13:22] <BluesKaj> no
[13:22] <inashdeen> hi, can someone point me how do i connect to xkb developer
[13:23] <thaurwylth> Will I be able to fix also the Windows MBR without a reinstall? I know that getting GRUB on the other disk should be easy; if nothing else, I can also hack it from the Live stick.
[13:23] <NsrUbuntu> hi
[13:24] <tezter> hi
[13:24] <BluesKaj> thaurwylth, however windows looks for the /dev/sda/ partition no matter which disk has theat designationeven if it's ext or ntfs
[13:24] <tezter> how to check the load of each process shown with `top`? (not RAM, but load, on a 1-core VPS)
[13:25] <alankila> tezter: the % estimate given by top is not sufficient for you?
[13:25] <gaelfx> I'm using NFS to access my /home on my main box from my laptops around the house, the /home is on an external HD connected via USB3.0, and sometimes when my client connects, it's really slow, other times it's perfectly fine, can anyone help me diagnose or possibly solve this issue?
[13:25] <BluesKaj> thaurwylth, I'm not sure but perhaps the repair windows optionwith windows install will rstore the mbr
[13:25] <thaurwylth> By the way, goddamnit, it seems that for some reason the Windows system information and, well, full install in general has been done on /dev/sdb . This was done before I got my hands on this computer.
[13:26] <BluesKaj> restore
[13:26] <NsrUbuntu> I need help related to Usb 3g modem .. please PM me
[13:26] <tezter> alankila: whenever nagios was warning me about high load, i checked with top and not any of the processes was suspicious.
[13:26] <thaurwylth> And, thus, my Ubuntu disk is now /dev/sda . Is this a problem?
[13:26] <alankila> tezter: yes, because load doesn't really relate to CPU use that well.
[13:27] <alankila> tezter: load average is the average number of processes in runnable state, but if they don't run for whatever reason they give a high load average. Often slow i/o causes this, as the processes are runnable but have to wait for disk
[13:27] <tezter> alankila: how else can i find out the bad process? i am pretty sure apache+mysql are OK, but have no idea about postfix and others.
[13:27] <BluesKaj> thaurwylth, not if you managed to install windows onm sdb , however that's probly how kubuntu sees the disk , and windows may see it as sda
[13:28] <alankila> tezter: look for processes that are either in R or D state as shown by top, frequently at the top when measured by cpu usage too
[13:28] <alankila> tezter: also try a program called iotop (may need to be installed first)
[13:28] <tezter> io is fine. i checked this already.
[13:29] <BluesKaj> er ubuntu
[13:30] <dkmt> hi~
[13:30] <tezter> no peaks if no backup is being written at the moment. the downtimes or issues happen at any time, around 3-6 days of running. no peak times, hardly any traffic.
[13:30] <BluesKaj> thaurwylth, the situation I described above happened to me