[08:22] <vip> hi there
[08:24] <vip> am I only one, who is confused by moving Cancel button on all dialogs to the right?
 https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-18-10-reaches-end-of-life/
 can't say I notice the cancel change
 It's only different in Gnome
 Otherwise rightmost position is normal
 would explain why I didn't notice! 😂
[08:42] <vip> hmm, maybe it is translation problem? are buttons sorted? hmm
[08:45] <vip> no, it is not.
[08:45] <vip> I always thought, that OK/Save/Accept buttons are positioned bottom right
[08:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » linode-01 build #3092: SUCCESS in 1 min 0 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=linode-01/3092/
 https://doc.qt.io/archives/qq/qq19-buttons.html
[08:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » master build #3092: SUCCESS in 1 min 49 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=master/3092/
[08:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » swy-01 build #3092: SUCCESS in 4 min 35 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=swy-01/3092/
[08:51] <vip> looks like I need to switch to mac
[10:34] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_drkonqi build #79: STILL FAILING in 4 min 59 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_drkonqi/79/
[10:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project eoan_unstable_drkonqi build #17: STILL FAILING in 5 min 47 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/eoan_unstable_drkonqi/17/
[10:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project eoan_unstable_khotkeys build #12: FAILURE in 3 min 47 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/eoan_unstable_khotkeys/12/
[10:36] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project eoan_unstable_kdeplasma-addons build #10: FAILURE in 5 min 41 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/eoan_unstable_kdeplasma-addons/10/
[10:38] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_plasma-desktop build #106: STILL FAILING in 5 min 4 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_plasma-desktop/106/
[10:40] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project eoan_unstable_plasma-desktop build #24: STILL FAILING in 6 min 35 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/eoan_unstable_plasma-desktop/24/
[10:41] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project eoan_unstable_powerdevil build #15: FAILURE in 6 min 9 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/eoan_unstable_powerdevil/15/
[10:41] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project eoan_unstable_systemsettings build #17: FAILURE in 6 min 4 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/eoan_unstable_systemsettings/17/
[10:43] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[11:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[11:03] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_kscreen build #77: FIXED in 31 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_kscreen/77/
[11:20] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[11:20] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_akonadi build #1247: FIXED in 14 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_akonadi/1247/
[11:22] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_kcalcore build #53: STILL FAILING in 37 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_kcalcore/53/
[11:22] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project eoan_unstable_kcalcore build #14: STILL FAILING in 40 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/eoan_unstable_kcalcore/14/
[11:23] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Yippee, build fixed!
[11:23] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project merger_kbookmarks build #1326: FIXED in 20 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/merger_kbookmarks/1326/
[11:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_kdeplasma-addons build #58: FAILURE in 12 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_kdeplasma-addons/58/
[11:28] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project eoan_unstable_akonadi build #15: STILL FAILING in 7 min 51 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/eoan_unstable_akonadi/15/
[11:28] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_stable_akonadi build #63: FAILURE in 8 min 0 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_stable_akonadi/63/
[11:30] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project eoan_unstable_messagelib build #13: STILL FAILING in 1 min 37 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/eoan_unstable_messagelib/13/
[11:32] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_akonadi build #75: FAILURE in 12 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_akonadi/75/
[11:33] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_messagelib build #77: STILL FAILING in 42 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_messagelib/77/
[11:33] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project eoan_stable_akonadi build #16: STILL FAILING in 12 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/eoan_stable_akonadi/16/
[11:34] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_stable_kcalcore build #65: FAILURE in 12 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_stable_kcalcore/65/
[11:42] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project eoan_stable_kcalcore build #15: FAILURE in 20 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/eoan_stable_kcalcore/15/
[11:44] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_stable_messagelib build #66: FAILURE in 10 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_stable_messagelib/66/
[11:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_stable_kitinerary build #65: FAILURE in 11 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_stable_kitinerary/65/
[11:49] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_kitinerary build #74: STILL FAILING in 18 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_kitinerary/74/
[11:50] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project eoan_unstable_kitinerary build #15: STILL FAILING in 19 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/eoan_unstable_kitinerary/15/
[11:54] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project eoan_stable_kitinerary build #18: STILL FAILING in 11 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/eoan_stable_kitinerary/18/
[11:59] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project eoan_stable_messagelib build #18: STILL FAILING in 16 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/eoan_stable_messagelib/18/
 good morning everyone
 this is just a test
 santa_ : ping
[13:12] <BluesKaj> pong
[13:13] <santa_> pong from here actually
[13:13] <santa_> I'm testing weechat, I don't like very much the default highlighting
 santa_ : ping
 santa_: ping
 LP looks a bit screwed at the moment 🙄
[15:09] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project eoan_unstable_plasma-nm build #14: UNSTABLE in 4 hr 35 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/eoan_unstable_plasma-nm/14/
[15:09] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_plasma-nm build #78: UNSTABLE in 4 hr 35 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_plasma-nm/78/
 @RikMills, builders still are 'forked'
[16:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project eoan_stable_plasma-desktop build #32: STILL FAILING in 1 hr 18 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/eoan_stable_plasma-desktop/32/
[16:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project eoan_stable_kdeplasma-addons build #17: FAILURE in 1 hr 18 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/eoan_stable_kdeplasma-addons/17/
[16:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project eoan_stable_khotkeys build #19: FAILURE in 1 hr 18 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/eoan_stable_khotkeys/19/
[16:25] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project eoan_stable_systemsettings build #17: FAILURE in 1 hr 18 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/eoan_stable_systemsettings/17/
[17:28] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_kwin build #107: STILL FAILING in 28 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_kwin/107/
[17:38] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project disco_unstable_plasma-workspace build #91: STILL FAILING in 9 min 50 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/disco_unstable_plasma-workspace/91/
[17:39] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project eoan_unstable_plasma-workspace build #21: STILL FAILING in 38 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/eoan_unstable_plasma-workspace/21/
[18:17] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » linode-01 build #3093: SUCCESS in 59 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=linode-01/3093/
[18:18] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » master build #3093: SUCCESS in 1 min 35 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=master/3093/
[18:21] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » swy-01 build #3093: SUCCESS in 4 min 26 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=swy-01/3093/
 @RikMills so I have been looking the frameworks things which might need a fix, do you have a few mins to discuss them?
 @Santa, quickly yes
 ok, to be brief and to sum up, I have checked the oranges from the status pages and they are not trivial, so we would leave that for another moment
 the other thing, beyond the oranges is that bluez-qt new functionality, it comes with an autotest which needs rfkill
 so the autopktest for i386 fails on my servers
 in ubuntu, in the network-manager package there's some hackery to provide a fake rfkill kernel module for the tests
 so I would suggest you to upload it as it is, see if it fails and how it fails @ the official infra and try the fake rfkill hackery
 if it doesn't work we can always disable the test
 agreed. that fw doesn't block anything else if it gets stuck
 ok, so that being said, upload at wiil
 I was expecting the oranges to be easier
 going to be in the morning now
 allright, thank you very much for the packaging work
 @Santa, very much the same to you
 @RikMills, or maybe when the LP builders are not as f***d as they appear to be right now!


[00:48] <ahoneybun> mhall119, ping
[00:51] <mhall119> ahoneybun: pong
[00:52] <ahoneybun> mhall119, I was talking to a local computer store and he wants to do some classes about Ubuntu to people
[00:54] <mhall119> ahoneybun: does he have space to host it?
[00:55] <ahoneybun> mhall119, I'm guessing, he wants me to help him with it
[06:00] <Nothing_Much> ahoneybun: dude! how are you able to do that stuff? where are you starting off Ubuntu classes?
[06:01]  * ahoneybun is half asleep trying to write a scope
[06:01] <ahoneybun> Nothing_Much, I'm in the South Florida area
[06:02] <Nothing_Much> ahoneybun: oh darn, you're doing development stuff
[06:02] <ahoneybun> Nothing_Much, I'm branching out
[06:03] <Nothing_Much> by talking about how Ubuntu and GNU/Linux works in general?
[06:03] <ahoneybun> I'm not really a dev, just showing folks Ubuntu
[06:03] <Nothing_Much> how are you able to do that? how much time do you have on your hands?
[06:06] <ahoneybun> Nothing_Much, just have work and school
[06:06] <ahoneybun> I take few classes
[06:06] <Nothing_Much> full time job or part time?
[06:07] <ahoneybun> part time
[06:07] <ahoneybun> lol
[06:07] <Nothing_Much> oh okay, that explains that then
[06:08] <ahoneybun> XD
[06:08] <Nothing_Much> I wish I could join ya or make my own teaching.. group thing.
[06:08] <ahoneybun> yea I don't really like to talk in public lol
[06:09] <ahoneybun> but I can talk about things I like/love
[06:09] <Nothing_Much> same, but most of the time I complain a lot about how my job uses IE8 and everything is slow because of it and that we're only protected by firewalls
[06:10] <Nothing_Much> that's pretty much it, and I'm not *incredibly* tech savvy when it comes to networking and security and stuff, but i'm pretty sure that firewalls can only do so much...
[06:11] <ahoneybun> yea common sense plays a good size role as well
[06:11] <Nothing_Much> honestly, my job scares me to an extent
[06:11] <Nothing_Much> but hey, I make money now and I plan to move out within 6 months, finally
[06:12] <ahoneybun> oh nice
[06:13] <Nothing_Much> in a perfect world, imo, everything would be FOSS (except maybe time-wasting software, such as video games) and we'd probably be able to apply security patches without restarting computers ever
[06:13] <Nothing_Much> but microsoft still exists
[06:13] <Nothing_Much> and apple
[06:13] <Nothing_Much> and to an extent, google
[06:13] <Nothing_Much> and adobe
[06:13] <Nothing_Much> argh
[06:15] <ahoneybun> lol
[06:18] <ahoneybun> I think I'm done with scopes for this morning lol
[06:19]  * ahoneybun needs to work on stuff for those Ubuntu classes XD and his UNIX hw
[06:22] <ahoneybun> Nothing_Much, I'm getting on Netflix
[06:22] <ahoneybun> Nothing_Much, if you want to know more about the classes shot me a email
[06:23] <Nothing_Much> unix? oh man
[06:23] <Nothing_Much> ahoneybun: I'm in central FL
[06:23] <Nothing_Much> I probably can't and I work full time too :c
[19:29] <ahoneybun> mhall119, their is a event going on in may called HackMiami looking for topics in linux


[16:39] <Aram> so, I'm writing the maas provider for go-juju. I want a test maas environment to work with. there's a mass/vdenv script that seems to bootstrap such an environment.
[16:39] <Aram> Can I use the packaged maas with that script or do I have to use the source? Or do you suggest something else?
[16:39] <Aram> maas/vdenv/HOWTO actually
[16:46] <flacoste> Aram: i'm not sure the state of vdenv tbh, smoser might able to give you more info there
[16:47] <flacoste> Aram: you could also ask milner from the Landscape what they used for integration testing
[16:48] <smoser> Aram, vdenv is probably *close* to working,, but probably not completely.
[16:48] <Aram> so, what do you recommend I should be using?
[16:48] <smoser> well, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~smoser/maas/maas-pkg-test/view/head:/maas-ephemeral-test-quantal.txt is what i was doing to test ephemeral images...
[16:49] <smoser> and we could/should get some solution for "all in one" with kvm like you're wanting and vdenv provided.
[16:49] <smoser> the thing missing from that 'test-quantal.txt' list is power control of instances
[16:49] <smoser> vdenv hooked power control up also.
[16:51] <smoser> Aram, the link above i was doing in a kvm instance (ie, nested virt) but also tested on hardware.
[16:51] <Aram> thanks.
[17:03] <smoser> Aram, i'm sorry i dont have a better answer. i'd really like to have something liek you're after.
[17:03] <smoser> but i dont have the time to fix right now.
[17:04] <smoser> what i'd like to see is vdenv with maas running either in an lxc container or "on the host" rather than in an instance.


[01:33] <iamblackface> hello tennessee :o
[01:34] <chris4585> hello iamblackface
[01:37] <iamblackface>  might anyone have some free time to help me out with a general linux wireless question :D
[01:42] <chris4585> sure
[01:42] <chris4585> I'm not an expert, but someone might know
[01:43]  * chris4585 pokes wrst and cyberanger
[01:43] <iamblackface> im trying to find a command to quickly find the channel of a give network
[01:43] <iamblackface> im using "iw dev wlan0 scan" but that is way too slow
[01:44] <chris4585> lol that is a cyberanger question
[01:44] <iamblackface> poo
[01:44] <chris4585> he is the local network guru dude
[01:48] <Unit193> Hrm, can't you use iwlist for that?  I've actually only used iwscanner to graph it. :P
[01:53] <iamblackface> pretty sure iwlist is slow too, im trying to make a realtime scanner
[01:53] <iamblackface> just using a bash script
[01:53] <iamblackface> just to test antennas
[03:27] <cyberanger> iamblackface: "sudo iwlist $INTF scan|less"
[03:28] <cyberanger> $INTF = wireless interface, typically wlan0
[03:29] <cyberanger> typically that's faster, but it won't be instant, if you've done a scan recently though, don't use sudo, and it'll just repeat the last results
[03:42] <iamblackface> thank you cyber :o
[03:54] <rfinley> acc off
[03:55] <rfinley> oops
[19:32] <wrst> hello linuxman410
[19:32] <linuxman410> hey
[19:32] <linuxman410> hey
[19:33] <linuxman410> trying to sell my mac mini on craigslist
[19:34] <wrst> mac mini, hmm
[19:34] <wrst> got a link?
[19:34] <wrst> someone here might be interested
[19:35] <linuxman410> its on craigslist no pictures look for mac mini morristown
[19:36] <linuxman410> go to craigslist knoxville computer mac mini morristown
[19:38] <wrst> those can be pretty neat little machines
[19:40] <linuxman410> it can run ubuntu since its intel
[19:52] <wrst> yep
[19:52] <wrst> make a dandy little home server
[19:59] <linuxman410> yep
[19:59] <wrst> linuxman410: version of OS X does will it run?
[20:02] <linuxman410> snow leopard
[20:04] <wrst> i sorta like osx


[12:12] <BluesKaj> Hi all
 so far so good ... (re @IrcsomeBot: <RikMills> 5.98.0 is being copied to kinetic-proposed now)
 @RikMills will you be at the summit this coming november?
 or anyone?
 I won't. Don't know about anyone else
 owh .. (re @RikMills: I won't. Don't know about anyone else)
 else would be a life chance to meet you in person
 I think the Kubuntu Focus guy is going
 wink
 i see (re @RikMills: I think the Kubuntu Focus guy is going)
 I'll be there, practically being forced.
 last time i met riddle
 Nah, he won't be there. (re @RikMills: I think the Kubuntu Focus guy is going)
 last time i met jonathan
 c00l ... (re @Eickmeyer: I'll be there, practically being forced.)
 Am I thinking of akademy then? (re @Eickmeyer: Nah, he won't be there.)
 Nah, he won't be there either.
 never had a chance to go to akademy (re @RikMills: Am I thinking of akademy then?)
 Must have dreamt it then :thin (re @Eickmeyer: Nah, he won't be there either.)
 hehehe
 Must have dreamt it then 🤔 (re @Eickmeyer: Nah, he won't be there either.)
 i was at the last UDS .. now .. the summit #comeback
 such a long gap
 almost a decade
 2012 - 2022
 if i remembered correctly
[19:18] <RikMills> mmikowski: Eickmeyer frameworks 5.98 should now be in backports-landing PPA for testing
[19:19] <RikMills> and anyone else for that matter!
[19:25] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: How do we test that against Plasma 5.24?
[19:29] <RikMills> Eickmeyer[m]: 5.25 is no longer in that PPA
[19:29] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: Awesome, thanks.
[21:54] <mparillo> F5\W 5.98 in backports-landing in KK?
[21:55] <RikMills> mparillo: no for jammy. 5.98 is in the main archive for KK
[21:56] <mparillo> Excellent. Not looking back then.
[21:56] <RikMills> I wanted to get that into KK as it is the minimum for plasma 5.26 beta on thursday
[21:57] <mparillo> Ahh, does Kubuntu have any kind of special role in the Plasma Beta?
[21:59] <RikMills> mparillo: nope. I will just try to get a build in the beta PPA available so people can try it if the are slightly nuts
[22:00] <RikMills> which should help upstream fix bugs
[22:00] <mparillo> Thanks. I expect you should be able to count me in, if not on Thursday, at least during the weekend.
[22:01] <RikMills> Yeah, might be a couple of days after thursday until build are done.
[22:02] <RikMills> previously I have had time to make fake tars and throw them at a PPA to get ready. This time no, so will need a day or 2 to make any packaging adjustments
[23:07] <mmikowski> RikMills: Thanks. We propose to run a desktop check. Anything in particular you would like explored?