[19:21] <sudonano> hi, desktop ubuntu 12.04 64 bit with unity...rear microphone jack works but not the same thing for the jack on front panel: I've already checked volume setting on alsamixer and pavucontrol. both the jacks are connected to the analogic audio chipset integrated in the MB (there's also hd audio on ati hd4830, but alsamixer show correctly only S/PDIF connection). Any idea? (on my previous 11.04 installation front microphone was fu
[19:21] <escott> Steph__, and why do you say "ubuntu can't see the video chip" that is a very specific statement
[19:21] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, openbox: /usr/share/xsessions/openbox-gnome.desktop
[19:21] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, yes it is the output
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: sudo apt-get --purge remove openbox
[19:22] <rbnswartz> bobweaver This look good http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402807/?
[19:22] <rbnswartz>  bobweaver This look good http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402807/ ?
[19:22] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, and what about other desktop environments please
[19:22] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  at any rate we are just going to make you a diff patch in the end I just wanted to show you how to use debuils
[19:22] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  looks great !
[19:22] <rbnswartz> bobweaver: now I do the debuild -S again?
[19:23] <bobweaver> yup
[19:23] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, openbox-kde.desktop
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: use the dpkg -S command again with the other files :)
[19:23] <morfeo_81> I'm scarry about to do great error with iptable.HOw can use ppo connection and create hot spot for ipad?
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> Steph__: what is the output of:   sudo lshw -C display
[19:23] <bazhang> morfeo_81, read the ics link ?
[19:23] <morfeo_81> !ics
[19:24] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  well that is going on open other terminal or new tab and cd ~/Desktop/build-area  or where ever that is and mkdir diffs
[19:24] <rbnswartz> bobweaver ok so I guess I need to give gpg my secret key. I used the gui in order to create it would that cause any problems?
 Yes but the problem I don't understand because I have a ip and how can change
[19:25] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, app-install-data: /usr/share/app-install/desktop/openbox:openbox.desktop
[19:25] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  not sure that is a big question just use our password that you signed you gpg keys with
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: then you know what to remove
[19:26] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  the password is to make sure that it is you . that is how debian based distros know that the people that are altering packages are the people that they claim to be :)
[19:26] <bobweaver> when packaging that is
[19:26] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, when i run dpkg -S openbox-kde.desktop it gives error
[19:26] <rbnswartz> bobweaver  it doesn't give me a chance to this is what I get. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402815/
[19:27] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  again I wanted to just *SHOW* you how debuils works
[19:27] <gandsnut> Can't seem to get out of entering passphrase and "Authentication required for wireless network"
[19:27] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern *openbox-kde.desktop*.
[19:27] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: try:   sudo apt-get --purge autoremove
[19:27] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,   open other terminal or new tab and cd ~/Desktop/build-area  or where ever that is and mkdir diffs
[19:27] <rbnswartz> bobweaver ok done
[19:28] <rbnswartz> bobweaver and then copy the patch?
[19:28] <Steph__> escott, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402817/
[19:28] <bobweaver> go to where src/polkitgnomeauthenticationdialog.c  is
[19:28] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  ^^
[19:28] <escott> Steph__, .... so it can see the card? Why are you saying it cannot?
[19:28] <rbnswartz> bobweaver got it
[19:28] <bobweaver> rbnswartz, then     cp  polkitgnomeauthenticationdialog.c  ../../diffs/altered.c
[19:29] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  make sure that it goes to the right dir :)
[19:29] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, we recently uninstalled xubuntu from system but still at the login prompt i can see xubuntu login but when trying to login not able to login and i want to completely remove xubuntu from the login screen
[19:29] <morfeo_81> I don't understand because I have a ip and how can change it ?
[19:29] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  then go back to  <buildarea>  and mkdir temp
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: could just delete the session file :)
[19:30] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, how to do it
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: sudo rm /usr/share/xsessions/openbox-kde.desktop       ...not obvious?
[19:31] <escott> morfeo_81, thats not even a well formed question. networking is complex. you need to read the documentation and if you have questions about what the documentation is telling you then ask specific questions
[19:31] <rbnswartz> bobweaver the build dir should be outside of the source tree correct?
[19:31] <babalu> Hi everybody I can't get flash images on ubuntu 12
[19:31] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, ok got it sir
[19:32] <Steph__> escott, my mistake.  I couldn't see the chip in the sea of code. I am trying to update/reinstall the driver in case that is the reason nothing happens when I plug a display into the HDMI port
[19:32] <Compaq_Owner> hey so i downloaded that iso torrent, now wat?
[19:32] <prashant_123456> what is the logout command in linux
[19:32] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  ~/Desktop/build-area/  should now have dirs for       diff,temp, and all the other stuff from build
[19:32] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | Compaq_Owner
[19:32] <escott> Steph__, ill go back to question from 15minutes ago. does the TV not show up in displays when the hdmi is plugged in and the tv on
[19:33] <HTC-DZ> guys, how do i check how much disk space openarena <the game> is using? i cant find its installed folder
[19:33] <rbnswartz> bobweaver in that case I got it
[19:33] <escott> prashant_123456, exit on terminal. gnome-session-logout in gui
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> !info openarena
[19:33] <Compaq_Owner> thr different again...
[19:33] <escott> prashant_123456, rather gnome-session-quit
[19:33] <ActionParsnip> !info openarena-data
[19:33] <prashant_123456> escott, ok i will try it
[19:33] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  then cd temp (the dir you just made )   and grab a fresh copy of policykit-1-gnome  (apt-get source policykit-1-gnome )   then *FROM the FRESH*  cd src/  and cp polkitgnomeauthenticationdialog.c  ../../diffs/*
[19:34] <Compaq_Owner> wats the link to the iso torrents?
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> HTC-DZ: 45Mb + 5Mb = 50Mb
[19:34] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, and escott thanks for the help
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> !torrents
[19:34] <bobweaver> sorry no * at the end rbnswartz
[19:34] <bobweaver> so
[19:34] <babalu> could u please help me for flash appropriate to ubuntu, I can't watch videos...
[19:34] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  then cd temp (the dir you just made )   and grab a fresh copy of policykit-1-gnome  (apt-get source policykit-1-gnome )   then *FROM the FRESH*  cd src/  and cp polkitgnomeauthenticationdialog.c  ../../diffs/
[19:34] <Compaq_Owner> thnx
[19:34] <bobweaver> rbnswartz, ^^ is corrct
[19:34] <Steph__> escott, no it does not. It does not show up on the list of available displays from the display setting when it is connected. The TV was on.
[19:34] <ActionParsnip> Compaq_Owner: why do you need the torrent if its finished downloading?
[19:34] <mega1> when i logon to the srver it has mega1@tech:~$ i want to change the tech
[19:35] <Compaq_Owner> cuz the MD5 didnt match again
[19:35] <HTC-DZ> action, where do i use that !info command? and i went to multiplayer and it downloaded a crap load of mods. thats why i wanna see how much space its eating up
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> babalu: can you pastebin the output of:  uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | egrep'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[19:35] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  know  cd ../../diffs/   and ls  there should be two files in there correct ?  the altered.c and the new one or unaltered one correct ?
[19:35] <bobweaver> now *
[19:35] <Compaq_Owner> it STILL doesnt match???
[19:35] <rbnswartz> bobweaver yes that is correct
[19:35] <zykotick9> HTC-DZ: for downloaded content, check your home directory somewhere...
[19:35] <ActionParsnip> Compaq_Owner: what is the hash you calculated?
[19:36] <Compaq_Owner> 6c37b6b39d1c57385ce90aeb22a688e1
[19:36] <babalu> ok
[19:36] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, still having xubuntu session at login prompt
[19:36] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, how to remove it
[19:36] <rbnswartz> bobweaver ok I have a patch generated
[19:36] <babalu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402840/
[19:36] <ActionParsnip> Compaq_Owner: looks fine to me
[19:36] <dr_willis> prashant_123456:  theres a xubuntu.desktop file the defines what sessions are shown by the *DM managers
[19:37] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  diff -u altered.c polkitgnomeauthenticationdialog.c > fix .patch
[19:37] <rbnswartz> bobweaver unless there was a diffrent usage of diff that I should have used
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> HTC-DZ: check in /usr/share/games     or in $HOME somewhere
[19:37] <Compaq_Owner> wen i put it in winMs5sum it says
[19:37] <Compaq_Owner> MD5 Check Sums are different
[19:37] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  go to launchpad page and upload that patch file as a attachment to the bug and you are done.
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> babalu: what is the output of:  dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[19:37] <ActionParsnip> babalu: I missed a space, sorry
[19:38] <rbnswartz> bobweaver redid the patch using the -u option
[19:38] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  sorry about the debuild stuff just wanted to show you .
[19:38] <rbnswartz> bobweaver I understand
[19:38] <babalu> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402848/
[19:39] <rbnswartz> bobweaver I really appreciate it didn't know what all of those tools did.
[19:39] <ActionParsnip> babalu: wat browser(s) do you use?
[19:39] <babalu> firefox but with cromium same I can't watch videos
[19:39] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  I hate quilt and will never understand it. I know why it is there. I am not sure as to why you gpg key is not working nor why it wanted a patch as version number changes should not ask for patch  Oo maybe ActionParsnip  can add to this he has moi moi karma on LP
[19:40] <escott> !hostname | mega1 please read this
[19:40] <bobweaver> maybe you made different tar ? not sure.
[19:40] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, ok now removed
[19:40] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver: whats the issue?
[19:40] <prashant_123456> gnome-session-quit error ** (gnome-session-quit:4583): WARNING **: Failed to call logout: The name org.gnome.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files
[19:41] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  other way to do what you just did. is to bzr branch  <branch>      alter the branch  and just re-upload
[19:41] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip,  package wanted to creat quilt patch even though version number was changed in changelog with dch -i
[19:42] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver: never played with that dude, sorry
[19:42] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip,  I was trying to show rbnswartz  how to use debuild :/
[19:42] <HTC-DZ> no luck. :( any idea where any downloaded apps get installed to by default from the ubuntu software center?
[19:42] <trism> bobweaver: what's the error?
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> HTC-DZ  in /usr/bin/
[19:42] <prashant_123456> cant logout using command gnome-session-logout
[19:42] <dr_willis> HTC-DZ:   the files for a packge go to whatever system dirs they need.. it depends on whats in the package.
[19:43] <babalu> on firefox I put an addon for flash but still doesn't work or I don't know which one is best for this old pc
[19:43] <dr_willis> HTC-DZ:  the binaries normally go to the verions 'bin' dirs
[19:43] <bobweaver> hey there Awesome sause other wise know as trism  it was dpkg source error on build let me find paste
[19:43] <dr_willis> HTC-DZ:  you can use the package manager tools to see exactly what files are in a package and where they get installed to
[19:43] <bobweaver> awesome formerly know as trism,   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1402740/
[19:44] <bobweaver> version # was changed in d/changelog so not sure why it would need a quilt patch Oo  << trism
[19:44] <rbnswartz> bobweaver I added a comment to the bug. Thanks a bunch.
[19:44] <trism> bobweaver: oh, dpkg-source --commit; should take care of creating the patch, or otherwise if the patch is already on top, just: quilt refresh;
[19:45] <bobweaver> trism,  thanks I can and never will understand quilt
[19:45] <bobweaver> :)
[19:45] <trism> bobweaver: takes some getting used to
[19:45] <mega1> how do i view all the hd on my server
[19:46] <bobweaver> trism,  also watch files and the regex that goes into them
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> mega1  df -h
[19:46] <ActionParsnip> mega1: sudo fdisk -l
[19:46] <bobweaver> trism,  like when get upstreamers are not using versioning # in there tar' s
[19:46] <escott> mega1, sudo cat /dev/sd*;
[19:46] <trism> bobweaver: never touch those myself either
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> mega1  correction: try du -sh
[19:47] <dr_willis> mega1:  how aboyt you clarify what you mean...
[19:47] <[4-tea-2]> Can anyone give me a hint how Ubuntu w/ Gnome asks for SSH keys? I'm loading a bunch of keys with ssh-add, yet Ubuntu/Gnome/whoever will still ask me to enter the passphrase for one of they keys that has already been loaded (upon the first SSH connection).
[19:47] <babalu> ActionParnsnip could u please suggest me something to do?
[19:48] <[4-tea-2]> I'd like a way to disable ^ that.
[19:48] <mooriane> babalu: jerk off
[19:48] <escott> dr_willis, taking all the fun out of trying to interpret his question
[19:48] <dr_willis> escott:  ;)
[19:48] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  you have read Ubuntu packaging guide and also debian new maintainers guide ?
[19:48] <HTC-DZ> oh :D i found something quite cool. the app "disk usuage analyzer" did the trick :) open that app, scan home folder, it shows you exactly how much space each app is taking. click on the app, and it actually takes you to the installed folder directory. :) pretty cool stuff.
[19:48] <babalu> mooriane jerk urself first
[19:48] <bazhang> babalu, he's gone, move on
[19:49] <dr_willis> HTC-DZ:  its just showing folders.. ;) the fact theres an app in one.. dosent matter. ;p
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> [4-tea-2]: did you tell the ssh server to not request passwords?
[19:49] <rbnswartz> bobweaver I started to a while ago when I was working on a project for automated deb file creation to find out more of how things are packaged but I don't quite remember it all
[19:49] <rbnswartz> bobweaver I'll be sure to read it. I still have the URL bookmarked I think
[19:50] <[4-tea-2]> ActionParsnip: it's not asking for a password, but for the pass*phrase* for an already loaded (according to ssh-add -L) key. You know, the "secret" used to decrypt a locally stored ssh private key.
[19:51] <rbnswartz> [4tea-2] how do I provide my secret key then?
[19:51] <[4-tea-2]> rbnswartz: ?
[19:51] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,    http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/    http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/       http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/
[19:52] <HTC-DZ> dr willis, its showing what i was looking for which was the space of mods downloaded.  :) which is what i was looking for. lol ay this is going to take a getting used to. :)
[19:52] <rbnswartz> [4-tea-2] I was the person that this started with. How do I provide gpg with my secret key in order to sign things?
[19:52] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  also this is good https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/
[19:53] <RELOL> hi. Ubuntu 12.04 freezes after have pluged an MTP device
[19:53] <dr_willis> HTC-DZ:  err.. that wawsent anyway near  the question i saw you asking. ;P
[19:53] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  look at the help.launchpad for that
[19:53] <RELOL> gvfs-gphoto2 60% cpu
[19:53] <HTC-DZ> i really need to understand how this system works. from what i gather, anything you install goes into a "pool" and any new program doesnt re download whats in the "pool" instead it just uses it from there. correct?
[19:54] <[4-tea-2]> rbnswartz: ActionParsnip responded to my, completely separate, question. Nothing to do with you.
[19:54] <rbnswartz> [4-tea-2] ok then never mind
[19:54] <mega1> how do i fine out how big each partition is
[19:54] <RELOL> DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[19:55] <dr_willis> mega1:  sudo fdisk -l
[19:55] <HTC-DZ> willis, heres the orignal q.  "guys, how do i check how much disk space openarena <the game> is using? i cant find its installed folder" my answer according to disk usage analyzer is 136MB. how is my q not answered?
[19:55] <dr_willis> HTC-DZ:  i saw you asking where speciifc things got installed..
[19:56] <dr_willis> HTC-DZ:  the locate command is handy for finding things you have totally lost  ;)
[19:56] <escott> HTC-DZ, not everyone sees every question. but running dpkg through df and awk can get the answer
[19:56] <HTC-DZ> willis, yes, coz according to windows, if you go to the folder where things are installed you find the size of the program. but this works differently i see.
[19:57] <dr_willis> HTC-DZ:  if you install stuff via the packagte manager tools the apps do not go into a single folder.
[19:57] <dr_willis> come can, and put links to differnt locations.. but not all of them
[19:57] <HTC-DZ> i know escott, im just clarifying myself to willis :)
[19:57] <mega1> would my hd show up if it was not formated
[19:58] <dr_willis> mega1:  you partion hard drives. then format the filesystems on the partions.
[19:58] <dr_willis> mega1:  fdisk shows the disks and how they are partioned.
[19:58] <HTC-DZ> willis, i have gathered that now :) lol
[19:58] <dr_willis> mega1:  gparted can aso.
[19:59] <escott> mega1, fdisk is pretty old and doesnt handle all partition types. sudo parted -l is preferred over sudo fdisk -l.
[19:59]  * dr_willis is old skool
[19:59]  * dr_willis is old....
[19:59] <HTC-DZ> is there a need for an antivirus software for ubuntu 12.04LTS and if so, which is a good free one to have?
[20:00] <dr_willis> HTC-DZ:  not really a need. unless you want to scan windows files
[20:00] <escott> dr_willis, not to worry. there is always someone older, until there isn't. then you die
[20:00] <dr_willis> actually thats about the only use for AV software on linux. ;) scanning your windows stuff
[20:00] <mega1> i cloned my hd onto a bigger one and after it said the linux was 32meg big and the unpartioned space was 32 just trying to format it
[20:00] <escott> !antivirus | HTC-DZ
[20:00] <dr_willis> mega1:  use gparted to 'resize' existing partions. or create new ones.
[20:01] <mega1> when i did fdisk -l it says i have 3 two are linux and the other is extended
[20:01] <darkhalo117> I've been looking through the grub2 configuration page on the community website. It tells me how to change my default OS but it doesn't tell me how to tell which menu entry win xp is. Any help?
[20:01] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: parted is a bit more descriptive than fdisk ;)
[20:02] <dr_willis> you kids and your fancy new commands... get off my lawn! ;P
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: fdisk shows partitions as 'linux'  parted shows them as 'ext4'
[20:02] <newbie|8> J have a problem with amule.  It looks like it starts, but the only way I can get it to run is in sudo mode
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: I'm pretty old school too :)
[20:02]  * bobweaver puts tent on dr_willis  made from html5
[20:02] <bobweaver> lawn ^^
[20:02] <Rocklaw> What about that Bose unit that goes under the TV? Any good? Looks like a large version of the Wave Radio.
[20:02] <k1l> newbie|8: pretty sure you already ruined the rightsmanagment with the sudo-running
[20:02]  * darkhalo117 tricks out his tent with css3
[20:02] <dr_willis> Rocklaw:  :) how is that ubuntu support related.
[20:03] <bazhang> Rocklaw, how is that connected to ubuntu
[20:03] <mega1> it says GtK-WARNING **: cannot open display
[20:03] <dr_willis> Guess it wasent.
[20:03] <newbie|8> k1l: It didn't work before I did the sudo
[20:03] <escott> newbie|8, must need access to a privileged port
[20:03] <newbie|8> escott: What is a priveleged port??
[20:04] <Noskcaj> ActionParsnip, my install was messed up so i put xubuntu on rather than try to fix it
[20:04] <HTC-DZ> ubottu, thanks for that link :)
[20:04] <newbie|8> k1l: Is there a way to fix the rightsmanagement?
[20:04] <escott> newbie|8, a low one <1024
[20:05] <RELOL> libmtp 0.9
[20:05] <HTC-DZ> ubottu, artificial intelligence beats human stupidity any day of the week :p
[20:05] <Compaq_Owner> need help
[20:05] <darkhalo117> How do I get the numbering in my grub2 menu entries so I can change my default os?
[20:05] <bazhang> HTC-DZ, /msg ubottu
[20:05] <Compaq_Owner> I have an aspire one D270-1865 which came with windows 7, and I wanted to get rid of it and replace it with ubuntu. So, I followed the instructions to create a bootable usb with the ubuntu iso and booted it on the system. Everything went fine, and it said the installation was successful and for me to reboot. So I did and nothing happened, no windows or ubuntu. I booted the usb again to...
[20:05] <Compaq_Owner> ...try...	Compaq_Owner	...and reinstall ubuntu but again nothing appeared. So I got out my old desktop and formatted the usb and put dban on it. Then wiped my useless system. Once it was wiped I formatted the usb again and recreated the ubuntu iso on it, and loaded it back onto the wiped PC, but only text appeared.
[20:05] <bobweaver> maybe bose  and tv and barghh One remote http://www.whizzy.org/2012/11/device-control-over-hdmi-via-cec-libcec-ftw/
[20:05] <k1l> newbie|8: take a look into the folder in your home and see if its owned by root. that is wrong it must be owned by your user
[20:05] <escott> newbie|8, seems odd for a p2p client, but its clearly some kind of permissions issue.
[20:05] <ActionParsnip> Compaq_Owner: what video chip does it use?
[20:06] <Compaq_Owner> idk
[20:06] <SonikkuAmerica> darkhalo117: look in the /etc/grub.d/ folder, I think it's there
[20:06] <newbie|8> k1l: Could you give me the command to look in the folder?  I'm a n00b
[20:06] <escott> darkhalo117, the numbering is in order of how they are listed in the grub.cfg which is built by running /etc/grub.d in sequence
[20:07] <k1l> newbie|8: "ls -al"
[20:07] <darkhalo117> Thank you guys!
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Compaq_Owner: seems to be a radeon 6250
[20:07] <new2linx> i need help with my olevia screen going into dpms standby and suspend after ubuntu boots up. I had a mx400 video card and I changed it to nvidia 6200. i can see everything loading, i can even login but the screen soon goes into dpms suspend mode
[20:07] <Compaq_Owner> a wat?
[20:07] <yanick_> Hi, will HDMI sound be supported at some point with the open source ATI driver (for a Radion HD 3xxx card) ?
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> Compaq_Owner: try the boot option:   radeon.nomodeset=1
[20:07] <Compaq_Owner> how?
[20:07] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | Compaq_Owner
[20:08] <newbie|8> k1l: What answer to that will tell me the owner?  I need to look at .amule, right?
[20:08] <SonikkuAmerica> darkhalo117: One more note: If you want to change the boot order, the easiest way to do that is to head for /etc/grub.d/ (as root) and edit the number at the beginning of the title.
[20:09] <battlecat> Hi. I have a HDMI video card. When I used Linux mint it had this feature that auto detected that I needed some restricted nvidia drivers and it always found the right ones. Where can I find that on Ubuntu 12.04?
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> yanick_: maybe, if you use 12.10 you will need the legacy driver via PPA to make it work
[20:09] <battlecat> Sorry I meant 12.10
[20:09] <HTC-DZ> guys, if i remove a game via the ubuntu software center does the mods for said game get deleted as well? or do i have to delete em separately somehow?
[20:09] <darkhalo117> Ok so lowest number boots first?
[20:09] <k1l> newbie|8: the two lines where most times is your username. that is the line for owner and group_owner of the file/folder
[20:09] <escott> HTC-DZ, manually
[20:10] <SonikkuAmerica> darkhalo117: Correct
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> HTC-DZ: depends where they are stored
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: which nvidia gpu?
[20:10] <krabador> hi people, i need help to reconfigure xorg
[20:10] <newbie|8> k1l: the command was ls -aL or -aI?
[20:10] <HTC-DZ> how would i know if they removed automatically?
[20:10] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, I am not sure. Is there a way I can find out without opening the machine again?
[20:10] <k1l> -aL
[20:10] <SonikkuAmerica> darkhalo117: This is typically done when you want to put Windows in front of the other OS'es in GRUB2
[20:11] <SonikkuAmerica> Or another OS
[20:11] <countley> is there a program for fashion design on ubuntu
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> HTC-DZ: if they are stored in a subfolder in $HOME then it will still stand
[20:11] <dr_willis> HTC-DZ:  depends on how the mods got installed. If the files are in the users Home directory (custome maps and so forth that were instaleld by the user) then the software center will NOT touch files in the users home.
[20:11] <mega1> i tried gparted it says GtK-WARNING **: cannot open display
[20:11] <newbie|8> k1l: It tells me that I cannot access al, no such directory
[20:11] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: lspci | grep -i vga
[20:11] <escott> dr_willis, it shouldnt be touching them even if they are in /usr/share/games if they aren't in the package manifest
[20:11] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: Is X11 enabled?
[20:11] <HTC-DZ> oh, i see. that sucks lol
[20:11] <DogP> I just extracted the rootfs of 13.04... can someone tell me what the default user/pass is?  I can't seem to find it.
[20:12] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 8400 GS] (rev a2)
[20:12] <ActionParsnip> countley: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1960709
[20:12] <mega1> dont think so
[20:12] <bazhang> DogP, there is none. #ubuntu+1 for 13.04 not here
[20:12] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: There's your problem.
[20:12] <escott> HTC-DZ, the general rule of thumb is that removing things with apt only removes things that were installed by apt. if you download and install with some other tool its your responsibility
[20:12] <DogP> bazhang: okay, thx
[20:12] <mega1> how do i enable it
[20:13] <Steph__> apparently the old "jiggle the handle" trick works for computers too because we finally out the display to output to the tv but new problem
[20:13] <k1l> newbie|8: ?
[20:13] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: Do you have a GUI (Unity, KDE, etc.) installed?
[20:13] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: and if you run:   apt-cache policy nvidia-current    which version is installed?
[20:13] <mega1> not on the server
[20:13] <newbie|8> k1l: I had forgotten to do the - before the aL.  This time around, the correct command tells me that .amule is under my personal access
[20:13] <k1l> newbie|8: what are you typing? "ls -al" is what i suggested you to put in
[20:13] <Compaq_Owner> !nomodeset
[20:13] <new2linx> I've turned off dpms within the tv setup.
[20:14] <Steph__> the computer cannot see the wireless card when I type nm-tool into the terminal all the display information is about wired internet connections. Any idea how to fix that?
[20:14] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, Installed: 304.51.really.304.43-0ubuntu1
[20:14] <k1l> newbie|8: ok
[20:14] <HTC-DZ> escott, i went in the app and went to ,mutliplayer and stuff downloaded. does that mean i have to delete those mods on my own?
[20:14] <mega1> i ma connecting using putty
[20:14] <newbie|8> k1l: The first time I did the aL, I had forgotten the "-"
[20:14] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: ok, so you have an ok driver. Do you get a low res?
[20:14] <shallwe> hi guys, someone here using ubuntu 12.10 and virtualbox?
[20:14] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: OK that helps me big-time
[20:14] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: Do you have a program called Xming?
[20:14] <shallwe> virtual box instaled in ubuntu 12.10
[20:14] <escott> HTC-DZ, yes. same as if you downloaded something in firefox. apt-get remove firefox should not delete everything you downloaded in the browser
[20:14] <k1l> then type "amule" in the terminal. if the programm gets errors it should state them there. but dont close the terminal
[20:14] <mega1> no
[20:14] <STF> hello guys, i am looking for a dhcp-server which i can configure this way, that i can use it to map 4 Public Ips to 4 virtualbox guests?
[20:15] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, no the res is correct as far as I can tell. What is happening is the audio is sometimes "fuzzy" like static and the image on the HD video gets this effect that I can only think of as tearing.
[20:15] <STF> the vm guest are started in bridgemode
[20:15] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: Google it, download it onto your Windows computer, install it, and switch it on (kill PuTTY first)
[20:15] <newbie|8> k1l: Does this mean anything ...  the directory "." is under me and the ".." is under root?
[20:15] <mega1> i have server 10.04 just ftp ssh were installed
[20:15] <k1l> newbie|8: that is fine
[20:15] <escott> new2linx, /home is always owned by root, as long as you own /home/username thats fine
[20:16] <escott> newbie|8, ^^^
[20:16] <newbie|8> drwxrwxr-x  4 steve steve     4096 Dec  1 21:00 .aMule
[20:16] <newbie|8>
[20:16] <HTC-DZ> oh man :( so now how would i hunt down these add ons? and is the $home folder you referring to the icon below the start icon?
[20:16] <escott> newbie|8, and ".." is up one directory, "." is the current directory (so probably /home/username)
[20:16] <k1l> newbie|8: that is fine
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[20:16] <k1l> newbie|8: lets move on for the next step
[20:16] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: Hmm... You're using server 10.04 right now?
[20:17] <escott> HTC-DZ, its almost certainly in $HOME/.program_name
[20:17] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, that was a neat trick.
[20:17] <newbie|8> k1l: I think I had screwed up before and someone told me to delete something and after that, it worked
[20:17] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=3627ebe296f62c880194f456322caa97bc0772d2
[20:17] <Sivik> anyone else have any video issues when playing any sort of video from a remote computer?  avi or mkv format?
[20:17] <escott> HTC-DZ, otherwise it would have to know how to get root privs to install the programs in /usr/share/games
[20:17] <mega1> yes
[20:17] <Sivik> I'm getting a choppy line about 1/4 down from the top
[20:18] <dr_willis> Sivik:  sounds like video 'tearing' to me.
[20:18] <Sivik> dr_willis, is that something caused by the video or the connection or the video playing?  The videos play fine on my tv
[20:18] <newbie|8> k1l: Something like a *.dat or something like that
[20:18] <dr_willis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screen_tearing
[20:18] <dr_willis> Sil4nc4:  its the nature of videos   dependign on how they get rendered
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: very handy :)
[20:19] <dr_willis> Sivik: :  its the nature of videos   dependign on how they get rendered
[20:19] <gandsnut> Can I run 12.10 with selectable Unity, Gnome or other desktop?
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: do you have onboard sound?
[20:19] <zatan> hey how can I set on file permission like this -rw-rw-r-- ?
[20:19] <mega1> SonikkuAmerica: yes why is something wrong with it
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: I imagine you are using HDMI audio
[20:19] <dr_willis> Sivik:  enabling vsync can get rid of it ive noticed.
[20:19] <Sivik> Ok.
[20:19] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, yes. At least I would like to
[20:19] <Sivik> Let me try doing that in the nvidia control panel.
[20:19] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: Pardon the delay...
[20:19] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: have you disabled the onboard sound in BIOS?
[20:19] <battlecat> I can tell you ActionParsnip that I am using Clementine right now and the audio sounds fine.
[20:20] <escott> zatan, that is 664 see !permissions
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: ok that's cool
[20:20] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: Can you install stuff?
[20:20] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: what apps does the sound go funny?
[20:20] <mega1> yes
[20:20] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, VLC Parole MPlayer
[20:20] <mega1> SonikkuAmerica: yes
[20:20] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: OK, sudo apt-get -y install x11
[20:21] <HTC-DZ> ok i managed to find the .pk3 files. <if that helps> does removing those simply remove the add ons?
[20:21] <battlecat> Playing Mp4 files from youtube ActionParsnip
[20:21] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: tried different sound options in VLC?
[20:21] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, No I have not.
[20:21] <SonikkuAmerica> mega1: Tell me if that works
[20:21] <k1l> gandsnut: yes, you can select at the login
[20:21] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, I have no clue that there was another
[20:21] <zatan> escott, chers
[20:21] <new2linx> how do i purge all nvidia drivers and start over. i am in tty1
[20:22] <du_> users: how can I use ubuntu 10.10 for the internet? I use kubuntu 11.04 for my laptop!  :-|
[20:22] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, The "tearing" is more upsetting
[20:22] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, cant watch anything fullscreen without flinching at it
[20:22] <gandsnut> k1l: OK.  How can I confirm Gnome and other desktops are installed?
[20:22] <Sivik> dr_willis, now to figure out how to enable vsync
[20:23] <gandsnut> With synaptic gone, I'm really lost
[20:23] <mega1> SonikkuAmerica: couldnt fing package x11
[20:23] <k1l> gandsnut: look if the packages are installed?
[20:23] <new2linx> can anyone help me remove nvidia 96.43 and install the correct one for a nvidia 6200?
[20:23] <newbie|8> k1l: I saw something in the .amule directory that seems familiar ... statistics.dat.  Would I be doing something dangerous to delete that?
[20:23] <cxclol> hello how can I unnistal programs by terminal?
[20:23] <gandsnut> k1l: respectfully, I don't know where to look in this Unity
[20:23] <k1l> newbie|8: im not familiar with amule in that case
[20:23] <Sivik> sudo aptitude remove <programname>
[20:23] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: did you set a different video output method in VLC
[20:23] <Sivik> or sudo apt-get remove <programname>
[20:23] <Sivik> !apt
[20:24] <cxclol> thank you
[20:24] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, I have found them but have no idea what to change them to
[20:24] <k1l> gandsnut: you can install synaptic
[20:24] <Sivik> cxclol, man pages are your friends. ;)
[20:24] <k1l> gandsnut: if you are familiar with it
[20:24] <newbie|8> k1l: I'm going to try that ... ActionParsnip, do you see any problem with that?
[20:24] <DJones> !aptitude | Sivik I don't think I would use aptitude any more,
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: Video tab under preferences.....
[20:24] <Sivik> DJones, thats why I gave him the option
[20:24] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: what have you tried doing to resolve this....?
[20:25] <gandsnut> k1l:  well, I don't mind learning the new environment, can you give a suggestion where to look to see what desktops are installed?
[20:25] <newbie|8> ActionParsnip: Do you see any problem with me deleting a file "statistics.dat" in my amule to restart the program
[20:25] <battlecat> LOL I have played around changing settings but well I dont get any results. Do I need to change and exit or just change the setting
[20:25] <dr_willis> Sivik:    you may want to use the 'ccsm' tool and see if 'sync to vblank' is enabled. I thought it was turned on by default. that seems to help my systems.
[20:25] <DJones> Sivik: Yeah, I realise that, just thought it was putting the link in channel for others to reference as well
[20:25] <k1l> gandsnut: a package system you want: softwarecenter, synaptic, apt-get etc etc etc
[20:25] <Sivik> that works.
[20:25] <ActionParsnip> newbie|8: could rename te file instead, less destructive
[20:25] <ftruzzi> Hi, I have an arch installation and my home folder is in a separate hard drive. Can I make a fresh install of ubuntu using that home partition?
[20:26] <k1l> gandsnut: or just log out and see what you can choose in the login screen
[20:26] <Sivik> !ccsm
[20:26] <gandsnut> k1l:  will try, thanks
[20:26] <newbie|8> ActionParsnip: I put it in the trash, but that didn't change anything
[20:26] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, no worries about it. Thank you for your time and help
[20:26] <dr_willis> Sivik:  i also have a similer setting on my Nvidia Control panel tool for my nvidia systems
[20:26] <Sivik> are you using the nvidia-settings program?
[20:27] <CowokAsyik> hmmm
[20:27] <dr_willis> both are enabled Sivik
[20:27] <Sivik> dr_willis, for nvidia, is it the vsync blinking thing?
[20:27] <dr_willis> then theres differnt vlc video filters you could enable. ;) but ive rarey needed that.
[20:27] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: try changing it to X11, see how it goes
[20:28] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, ok will do
[20:28] <mega1> what is x11
[20:28] <dr_willis> Nvidia Settings -> open gl -> Sync to Vblank
[20:28] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: I'm just not seeing what you have done to make this better...
[20:28] <SonikkuAmerica_> mega1: Are you still there? (Solaris was glitching, hard-rebooted back into Ubuntu 12.10)
[20:28] <Sivik> dr_willis, does x have to be restarted to see the change?
[20:28] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, Well I guess other than downloading a few test videos and changing basic settings in the preferences not a whole lot. I am not a programer
[20:29] <dr_willis> Sivik:  not that i know of.
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: you don't have to be a programmer.
[20:29] <Sivik> dr_willis, thats weird, I guess i'm going to have to do something in that ccsm.
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: I'm not....
[20:29] <battlecat> I am thinking that I will go back to Mint since that worked out of the box so to say. I do appreciate your time though.
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: why would you need to be?
[20:29] <dr_willis> Sivik:  you did click the apply button ;)
[20:29] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: the exact same  options for VLC are in Windows, do you need to be a programmer there too/
[20:30] <Sivik> dr_willis, did the save to x configuration file
[20:30] <dr_willis> Sivik:  that WOULD require an X restart then
[20:30] <Sivik> dr_willis, I don't have an apply button
[20:30] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, here is something strange the Youtube video when watched in Firefox are fine but not when watched in VLC. I dont use windows lol I have a mac and a linux box
[20:31] <Sivik> dr_willis, doesn't do it for local videos but does for network videos, would that make a difference?
[20:31] <darkhalo117> Would "30_os-prober" be indicative of a windows boot in grub2?
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: same VLC options are in MacOS...do you need to be a programmer there too?
[20:31] <battlecat> No MAC just works
[20:31] <dr_willis> Sivik:  hve never noticed the network mattering.. unless its real High def videos.
[20:31] <battlecat> lol
[20:31] <escott> darkhalo117, yes
[20:31] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: so what relevance does "I am not a programer"  have, to anything in your situation?
[20:31] <Sivik> hum.
[20:31] <dr_willis> Sivik:  could be its how the videos are getting streamed over the network also.
[20:32] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, I do not want to get into editing text files and all that.
[20:32] <dr_willis> Text files are scary! ;)
[20:32] <SolarisBoy> word
[20:32] <Sivik> dr_willis, maybe but I know its not a thru-put issue.  Its a 1 gbps network connection between the two computers
[20:32] <battlecat> Is there a way to turn off something called compositing if I have it on?
[20:32] <battlecat> found awebpage
[20:32] <escott> darkhalo117, the other thing you can try is /etc/default/grub the one downside to renaming 30 to 09 is if those scripts get updated yours wont
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: you're not, you are changing config via a GUI. Edittin a text file does not constitute programming
[20:32] <dr_willis> battlecat:  that will disable a lot of the video effects/eyecandy
[20:32] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: if you've fixed as many macs as I have. you'd know they don't just work
[20:33] <Sivik> dr_willis, could be the fact its 1080 video.
[20:33] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, Im sorry I dont agree. I work at a university and no one ever complains about MACs but the students complain about windows lol.
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: try installing xfce4, log off and log in to the xfce session and try there
[20:33] <battlecat> dr_willis, I would like to do that then.
[20:33] <dr_willis> Sivik:  i rarely have any 1080p videos so No idea on that.
[20:33] <battlecat> ActionParsnip, I am in XFCE.
[20:33] <darkhalo117> After I make these changes, do I need to run sudo update-grub?
[20:33] <Sivik> dr_willis, thanks for your input
[20:33] <dr_willis> battlecat:  it may be beter if you clarify exactly what you are trying to do wna dwhy.
[20:34] <SillyMe> battlecat, what are you trying to do again?
[20:34] <battlecat> ah back to Linux Mint.
[20:34] <battlecat> Thanks guys.
[20:34] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: I have Linux servers with upwards of 3 years uptime, and Windows SQL servers with similar
[20:34] <dr_willis> Sivik:  vlc has differnt filters that may help also. I tend to only watch anime. :) so action movies and so forth may be differnt
[20:34] <SillyMe> battlecat, if you don't like editing text files, you wouldn't like slackware :)
[20:35] <Sivik> dr_willis, yea, i'm watching fringe in VLC and its doing it. but it is 1080
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> battlecat: editting text files isn't programming, just so you know
[20:35] <escott> darkhalo117, yes
[20:35] <dr_willis> flash is acting weird.. so i will go use mint...  logical..
[20:35] <dr_willis> ;P
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: seen it too many times
[20:36] <dr_willis> VLC has its own 'flash code' dosent it? ive never really noticed. ;)
[20:36] <SillyMe> people are lucky flash ever works right
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> SillyMe: I use chrome and have zero issues
[20:37] <countley> ActionParsnip: cheers
[20:38] <SillyMe> having zero issues when using  anything is practically a chrostmas miracle
[20:38] <bobweaver> all sorts of codex but not fringe :(  http://imagebin.org/237838
[20:38] <SonikkuAmerica_> SillyMe: lol
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> SillyMe: I do, all working here. I shop SMART. Shop S-MART :)
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> SillyMe: Dell D420 works 100% OOTB, with HP Deskjet 960C POS printer needing no config......
[20:39] <protos> Why sudo echo "@setxkbmap -option grp:ctrl_shift_toggle "us,ru"" >> /etc/xdg/lxsession/Lubuntu/autostart  returns access denied? How to do it with sudo rights correctly?
[20:39] <SillyMe> So you never at any time ever had a single issue?
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> SillyMe: using the system for web and chat and spotify.  I buy what is known to work...i have no problems
[20:40] <SonikkuAmerica> ((OK I'm back))
[20:41] <SonikkuAmerica> protos: Do you need 2 ">"s in your command syntax?
[20:42] <escott> protos, no sudo. | sudo tee -a instead
[20:42] <protos> SonikkuAmerica: I need just append a line to file... As I understand I should use >> for that
[20:42] <SonikkuAmerica> OK, then follow what escott said
[20:42] <escott> protos, >> is handled by the shell (bash) which is not sudo
[20:43] <protos> escott: big thanks
[20:43] <du_> users: Are you all on kubuntu x.x? :-|
[20:43] <escott> du_, no
[20:43] <RELOL> No samsung device owners?
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> protos: sudo doesn't traverse te >>
[20:44] <dr_willis> RELOL:  samsung makes a LOT of devices...
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> protos: you need to use:   echo "text" | sudo tee /path/to/file
[20:44] <escott> protos, hopefully that makes sense, but "sudo echo" is rather pointless. echo never does anything that needs root access
[20:45] <RELOL> dr_willis, yes, but MTP makes it unusable on Ubuntu
[20:45] <darkhalo117> You guys are awesome. Do you just chat on irc all day and get paid to do so?
[20:45] <escott> protos, and be careful of the difference between tee and tee -a. tee is like >. tee -a is like >>
[20:45] <dr_willis> RELOL:  actually ive seen guides on getting MTP working. Ive done it befor. but these days i tend to just use wifi to get stuff back/forth to my phones
[20:45] <escott> darkhalo117, paid. please send us your CC number when you are done :-P
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> darkhalo117: I do when work is dead
[20:45] <du_> escott: How does the internet move on ubuntu 10.10? :-|
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> du_: maverick is EOL
[20:46] <RELOL> Wifi direct?
[20:46] <dr_willis> RELOL:  I tend to connect to the local lan and use any of the various tools to transfer files. ssh/scp samba,
[20:47] <darkhalo117> I'll buy a t-shirt from the store haha
[20:47] <dr_willis> I recall following this site once - not sure if its still needed for 12.10 http://ubuntu.mylifeunix.org/2012/05/29/how-to-connect-android-smartphone-ice-cream-sandwich-to-ubuntu-to-browse-files-and-for-file-access/
[20:48] <DogP> is there an OMAP3 build of ubuntu desktop 12.10?  I'm only seeing the OMAP4, but the wiki talks about it for the OMAP3 as well: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/OmapDesktopInstall
[20:48] <escott> darkhalo117, its all volunteer, and not directly affiliated with canonical, but feel free to donate to an open source cause if thats your wish. we are in here because we like freedom (at least thats presumptively true)
[20:49] <Kazfd> Anyone know how to make a restore script in bash? trying to restore it from a file manifest. #BASH is unresponsive. :(
[20:49] <escott> Kazfd, restore what?
[20:49] <du_> ActionParsnip: At first I had kubuntu 10.10 until Nov 2012 online in action, upgrade to 11.04 now! :-)
[20:50] <SonikkuAmerica> du_: You'll want to upgrade to at least 11.10
[20:50] <Kazfd> escott: Restores a file to it's original location. Like the recycle bin in Windows, if something is deleted, the script will restore it to its original location.
[20:50] <bazhang> du_, 11.04 is end of life as well
[20:50] <darkhalo117> Much appreciated, escott. Do you guys know when the Ubuntu for Android is going to be released? I saw the youtube video and it was pretty cool!
[20:50]  * SonikkuAmerica nods to bazhang
[20:51] <escott> darkhalo117, best guess is thats going to have to be sold with specific devices. they may make a development release for people willing to reflash systems, but flashing systems is not something you want just any random Joe doing
[20:52] <escott> Kazfd, i would check FDO (freedesktop.org) and see if there is a command line tool written for that.
[20:52] <darkhalo117> True statement
[20:52] <Kazfd> escott: I need to create it myself. Already looked around for the bash code and haven't found anything.
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> du_: i'd just clean install Precise.
[20:53] <escott> Kazfd, but things like "rm" do not go to any kind of "trash can" its just gone
[20:53] <du_> SonikkuAmerica: I think you know;" Never change a winning horse!" :-)
[20:53] <cc_INC> du_ unless it's EOL :)
[20:54] <Kazfd> escott: I know. I created a delete script that moves to a separate location. However, I am stumped on how it's to restore to an original location.
[20:54] <escott> Kazfd, well when you move it you need to log the location somehow. i would look at how freedesktop.org specifies that is to be done and follow their format
[20:54] <SillyMe> I suppose of there were some final entry point for file deletions in the OS, you might be able to hook it?
[20:55] <Zorro> hello
[20:56] <escott> Guest28487, helo
[20:56] <Guest28487> hello escott
[20:56] <Kazfd> escott: Before a file is deleted, I log it in a manifest log that I created.
[20:56] <ex0a> is it possible to add a 3rd party repository during expert install or should i just wait until i boot into the system the first time?
[20:56] <Guest28487> how are you
[20:57] <Guest28487> bye bye
[20:57] <escott> Kazfd, i would recommend you use the FDO standard whatever that is. but at the end of the day you have to parse your log and figure out the restore location and move it back
[20:58] <SillyMe> what would Kazfd do if the file had been recreated in between?
[20:58] <otend1> is there any way to make the last number of a local IP static without affecting the others?
[20:59] <escott> SillyMe, you are just overthinking things. that will never happen
[20:59] <Kazfd> otend1: Without affecting the others?
[20:59] <otend1> as in, the three other numbers
[20:59] <escott> otend1, no. not possible
[20:59] <otend1> in other words, can I force the local IP of a system to adap--Oh.
[20:59] <otend1> welp.
[21:00] <escott> otend1, what would happen if the next subnet already gave that low bit out
[21:00] <SillyMe> escoot, that happens all the time, when files were automatically generated by any partocular software package "x".
[21:01] <escott> SillyMe, i'm kidding
[21:01] <gordonjcp> otend1: What exactly are you trying to do?
[21:03] <dodoteam> fuck
[21:03] <bobweaver> !language | dodoteam
[21:03] <dodoteam> fuck
[21:03] <bobweaver> thansk DJones
[21:04] <bobweaver> thanks *
[21:05] <gopostal> hi all, my root HDD says its 99%-100% used, but if i trow away big files it will be full again in 1 day. without installing anything that i know of
[21:05] <escott> gopostal, check if any really large files are in /var/log
[21:06] <SillyMe> gopostal, how big is your hard drive?
[21:06] <gopostal> if i select every file on my hdd it states that it is 24.8gb but also something like 38gb is used
[21:06] <gopostal> my hdd is 38,5 (partition)
[21:07] <frederico> hello, i am searchin for someone, who is able to help me for a technical problem. can anyone give some help?
[21:07] <jesusemelendezm> quick question... when executing a c program on command line it gives me a permission denied.
[21:07] <jesusemelendezm> ./programNAME
[21:07] <jesusemelendezm> after it was compiled.
[21:07] <k1l> !ask > frederico
[21:07] <gopostal> escott: the /var/log is 6.4mb in total
[21:07] <SillyMe> did you set it's file attributes to "executable"?
[21:07] <escott> jesusemelendezm, is the c program opening any files?
[21:08] <aTT0> yea u got to change permissions
[21:08] <zykotick9> jesusemelendezm: is it mark executable?
[21:08] <gordonjcp> you shouldn't have to change its permissions at all
[21:08] <gordonjcp> that's stupid
[21:08] <trism> jesusemelendezm: how did you compile it?
[21:08] <escott> SillyMe, zykotick9 GCC should mark a.out as executable
[21:08] <escott> if he isn't using GCC then maybe
[21:08] <zykotick9> escott: thanks, good to know
[21:09] <jesusemelendezm>  gcc -Wall-W-Werror main.c -o HelloWorldC
[21:09] <jesusemelendezm> excample
[21:09] <jesusemelendezm> example
[21:09] <SillyMe> what do you get if you "ls -l main" ?
[21:09] <gordonjcp> jesusemelendezm: can you pastebin exactly what you type to compile it, exactly what you type to run it, and any errors you get?
[21:10] <jesusemelendezm> no errors
[21:10] <escott> gopostal, there is a disk-usage utility that will say where your disk is being used
[21:10] <gopostal> escott, oke i will check that out
[21:10] <SonikkuAmerica> That IS a weird set of args (I know what they all do but why)
[21:10] <escott> gopostal, baobob
[21:10] <escott> gopostal, rather "baobab" is the name of the program
[21:11] <gopostal> escott, thanks
[21:11] <gordonjcp> jesusemelendezm: I didn't ask if there were no errors, I asked you to pastebin exactly what you type and what comes back
[21:11] <escott> !ask | frederico
[21:12] <SonikkuAmerica> gordonjcp: If he's using the webchat there is no pastebin option
[21:12] <angs> how to get a static wireless interface name (e.g. wlan1) on ubuntu 12.04?
[21:12] <gordonjcp> SonikkuAmerica: how do you figure that out?
[21:12] <escott> angs, you can modify udev to look at the mac address and fix the name
[21:13] <angs> escott: how can I do it?
[21:13] <frederico> is it possible that anybody could help me to solve tis problem:
[21:13] <frederico> http://www.physikerboard.de/ptopic,180909.html#180909
[21:13] <gordonjcp> SonikkuAmerica: you paste a link into the channel
[21:13] <escott> angs, /etc/udev/rules.d
[21:13] <escott> angs, http://gorfeulb.blogspot.com/2010/08/udev-update-map-between-mac-addresses.html
[21:13] <gordonjcp> frederico: 1) it's in German, 2) it looks like a homework problem 3) it is not an Ubuntu support issue
[21:13] <angs> escott: thank you
[21:14] <gopostal> escott, oke it seems that thunderbird is using a lot of disk space, i really didnt see that one coming, thanks for you help :)
[21:14] <escott> gopostal, it will keep a local copy of your mail database. might want to delete some older emails
[21:14] <SonikkuAmerica> gordonjcp: That problem is about air pressure
[21:15] <gordonjcp> SonikkuAmerica: I know what it's about
[21:15] <gordonjcp> SonikkuAmerica: I can read, you know
[21:15] <k1l> frederico: that is no ubuntu problem. so this is offtopic here
[21:15] <zykotick9> gopostal: fyi, you need to do something beyond just "deleting" emails to free space in thunderbird...
[21:16] <SonikkuAmerica> Sorry, I didn't know you had translated it... No need to be defensive about it...
[21:16] <gopostal> zykotick9, oke? please tell
[21:16] <zykotick9> gopostal: sorry, i don't remember.  i stopped using thunderbird, in part to due it space usage...
[21:16] <Argure> meh, I think I broke ipv6 :(
[21:17] <gopostal> zykotick9, oke :) thanks anyway i will search for it
[21:17] <Argure> argure@geonosis:~$ ping6 ubuntu.com
[21:17] <Argure> unknown host
[21:17] <SonikkuAmerica> gopostal: What zkyotick9 said and see if you can switch your email services to IMAP (rather than POP)
[21:17]  * Argure goes to play with config files :9
[21:17] <gordonjcp> SonikkuAmerica: Ich kann lesen ein bisschen Deutsch...
[21:17] <zykotick9> SonikkuAmerica: doesn't help with thunderbird, it saves imap local as well :(
[21:18] <SonikkuAmerica> gordonjcp: I believe you, zkyotick9: Really? I didn't even know that...
[21:18] <zvacet> does anyone know how to completely remove unity from 12.10?
[21:19] <gordonjcp> zvacet: install a non-Unity version?
[21:19] <gordonjcp> zvacet: you could just install another DE and use that instead
[21:19] <zykotick9> zvacet: don't install it to begin with?  start from mini.iso and only install what you want.  avoid the *-desktop metapackages...
[21:19] <zvacet> gordonjcp:  :@  and install all over again I don´t think so
[21:20] <boo_> I still use Gnome
[21:20] <gordonjcp> zvacet: why not just install another DE and not use Unity?
[21:20] <zykotick9> zvacet: see "/msg ubottu notunity" for installing alternatives, i wouldn't try to remove unity though...
[21:20] <gordonjcp> zvacet: you could use XFCE if you want a desktop that looks like the early 90s, or LXDE if you want a desktop that looks like the early 80s
[21:21] <boo_> There really isn't a need to remove Unity.  Just install another DE then just use that.
[21:21] <bobweaver> 80's ?
[21:21] <zvacet> gordonjcp: I know what I want but I will be happy to safely remove unity
[21:21] <SonikkuAmerica> gordonjcp: LXDE doesn't feel much like the '80s if you came from a DOS/Windows background... just saying
[21:21] <gordonjcp> zvacet: why bother?
[21:22] <gordonjcp> SonikkuAmerica: I haven't used Windows since 3.1 was current
[21:22] <streulma> zvacet: running the classic shell or gnome shell >> apt-get install gnome-shell gnome-tweak-tool
[21:22] <zvacet> gordonjcp: because i don´t want to have something I will not use
[21:22] <jesusemelendezm> anybody knows the IRC for code blocks?
[21:22]  * SonikkuAmerica smiles at gordonjcp
[21:23] <bobweaver> j/ #codebloacks
[21:23] <SonikkuAmerica> If that's the case, wouldn't Openbox be closer?
[21:23] <bobweaver> that is not going to work lol
[21:23] <gordonjcp> SonikkuAmerica: I do actually have a real, bought-and-paid-for set of 3.1 disks *somewhere*
[21:23] <Argure> wth did I break :(
[21:23] <Argure> argure@geonosis:~$ ping6 2a01:7c8:aaae:218::1
[21:23] <Argure> connect: Network is unreachable
[21:23] <zykotick9> gopostal: this might be of interest to you http://kb.mozillazine.org/Compacting_folders
[21:23]  * Argure kicks ipv6 in the face
[21:24] <gopostal> zykotick9, thank you, will check it out
[21:24] <bobweaver> jesusemelendezm,  yeah it is #codeblocks
[21:24] <zvacet> I tried method described at  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexubuntu but not happy with that
[21:24] <jesusemelendezm> thanks guys.. how about for c++ ?
[21:24] <Mrokii> Hello. For some reason my USB Hub seems to stop working sometimes. When this happens, none of its LEDs for the different ports lights up anymore and nothing connected to it seems to be recognised by the system anymore, until I do a restart. Does anybody know why this happens or what I can do?
[21:24] <SonikkuAmerica> gordonjcp: I have mine as well as the base DOS 6.22 disks back home (I'm in college now)
[21:24] <ThinkT510> !alis | jesusemelendezm
[21:25] <bobweaver>  ##C++ ?
[21:25] <escott> Mrokii, check dmesg see if anything appears there
[21:25] <vbgunz> my computer freezes up randomly. I can lock it up by simply playing Bastion. When I go into the logs hoping I can see something that will stand out I see nothing that says heres why. What are some things I can do to figure out why this is happening?
[21:25] <jesusemelendezm> thanks guys
[21:26] <searching> how to remove flashplayer installed with apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[21:26] <escott> vbgunz, how are you checking the logs on the frozen system
[21:27] <bobweaver> searching,  software center maybe ?
[21:27] <Mrokii> escott: What should I look for? I've tried "dmesg | grep usb" but nothing showed up. But I don't know when the hub stopped working as I haven't used it for a day or two.
[21:27] <searching> where is libflashplugin.so located?
[21:27] <escott> Mrokii, if it has been days it might not be in dmesg anymore. you might need to check /var/log/syslog
[21:28] <Mrokii> escott: Okay, I'll take a look.
[21:28] <vbgunz> I don't check it when it's frozen. only the sysrq keys work, I go through reisub and when it's back up, I check out system log viewer, /var/log/syslog and ~/.xsession-errors. I really don't know what else to check and I've gone through so much over the last week about this, I am exhausted
[21:28] <bobweaver> searching,  locate  libflashplugin.so    or     sudo find / -name ' libflashplugin.so'
[21:28] <escott> vbgunz, so you are doing sync. you might install openssh-server and see if you can shell in when it happens
[21:29] <searching> nothing find
[21:29] <bobweaver> searching,  are you trying to purge it ?
[21:29] <bobweaver> searching,  like apt-get --purge remove <app>
[21:29] <searching> I trying to remove and install flashplayer 10
[21:29] <zykotick9> bobweaver: "apt-get purge foo" works just fine as well
[21:29] <funkt> hi there does anyone know how i could get a bottom bar in unity in 12.04?
[21:29] <Mrokii> escott: searching for "usb" shows a few dozens line with this text: "udevd[24203]: timeout: killing 'mtp-probe /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:02.1/usb1/1-1/1-1.4/1-1.4.4 1 69' [17792]"
[21:30] <vbgunz> in the xorg log I've noticed that I have a warning of hot plug being on and keyboard, mouse, etc will be disabled. maybe that has something to do with it?
[21:30] <bobweaver> searching,  look to see what is installed    dpkg-query -l | grep flash
[21:30] <SonikkuAmerica> searching: Did you try sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplayer-installer?
[21:30] <ThinkT510> funkt: moving the unity bar to the bottom is not supported
[21:30] <searching> yes
[21:30] <funkt> I want the folders to show at the bottom
[21:30] <vbgunz> escott: that's probably a great idea but I don't think I'll do it. I am sure an openssh-server in the wrong hands (mine) would most likely be a bad idea
[21:30] <dr_willis> funkt:  add a dock
[21:30] <searching> but I can enable flashplayer after remove
[21:30] <funkt> right
[21:31] <bobweaver> searching,  can you PASTEbin that for us ?
[21:31] <funkt> how do i do that?
[21:31] <dr_willis> !dock
[21:31] <escott> vbgunz, ok?
[21:31] <searching>  dpkg-query -l | grep flash done nothing
[21:31] <funkt> Ok sounds good how do i do that?
[21:31] <bobweaver> searching,  dpkg-query -l | grep  flash     then pastebin that for us to see
[21:31] <Argure> okay, quick question.
[21:31] <bobweaver> what what what Oo
[21:31] <Argure> I found my problem
[21:31] <Argure> how do I add an ipv6 inet to eth0 again? :P
[21:31] <dr_willis> funkt:  fire up the package manager tools.. pick a dock.. install it.
[21:32] <funkt> whoch dock will give me old school folder tabs?
[21:32] <searching> sudo apt-get install -f and installed flashplayer back
[21:32] <bobweaver> searching,  what about  apt-cache policy  flashplugin-installer
[21:32] <Mrokii> funkt: you could google for something like "ppa cairo-dock" for example.
[21:32] <dr_willis> funkt:  i dont know what you mean by old akool folder tabs.. so no idea
[21:32] <Mrokii> funkt: What are "folder tabs"?
[21:32] <funkt> well for example in the old ubuntu you had a bottom bar
[21:33] <funkt> and you could see all the folders that were open
[21:33] <dr_willis> funkt:  thats not folders... that was showing running apps.
[21:33] <funkt> I cant see that in ubuntu 12.04
[21:33] <funkt> well whatever
[21:33] <escott> !unity | funkt
[21:33] <funkt> can i do that in 12.04?
[21:33] <dr_willis> if you want to old gnome2 look.. then you can use the fallback mode
[21:33] <Mrokii> Cairo-Dock can do this, kind of. It can show open folders.
[21:33] <searching> just a moment
[21:33] <funkt> I dont want the old look
[21:33] <funkt> all i want is one bar at the bottom showing what is open
[21:33] <dr_willis> try some of the docks - see what you like.
[21:33] <escott> funkt, you dont want the old look, you just want the old look
[21:33] <anunakki> funk
[21:34] <bobweaver> !info  gnome-classic | funkt  If you like you can install
[21:34] <anunakki> funkt,
[21:34] <dr_willis> You want a application list.
[21:34] <anunakki> use cairo-dock
[21:34] <bobweaver> lo
[21:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Also, try MATE for the pure GNOME 2.x environment
[21:34] <ThinkT510> funkt: the bar at the side shows what is open
[21:34] <anunakki> would you like a screenshot of what cairo-dock look slike on a clean install?
[21:34] <funkt> oh thanks im going to try google I basically want unity but I want the bar at the bottom
[21:34] <funkt> Im sure it can be done
[21:34] <funkt> some how
[21:34] <anunakki> however, my wm is fluxbox and my OS is fbsd in the screenshot
[21:34] <gordonjcp> what's the obsession with Gnome 2 anyway?  It's horrible
[21:34] <funkt> thank toy
[21:34] <funkt> you
[21:34] <bobweaver> funkt,  you are good at c++
[21:34] <Mrokii> funkt: I have Unity and use Cairo-dock at the same time.
[21:34] <dr_willis> theres UNSUPPORTED hacks to unity to move it to the bottom..  No idea how well they work, if at all any more
[21:35] <anunakki> funkt, i suggest looking into openbox
[21:35] <anunakki> as window manager
[21:35] <anunakki> with cairo-dock
[21:35] <anunakki> but you can use it with unity as well
[21:35] <funkt> ok Ill try cairo dock then!
[21:35] <funkt> thank you
[21:35] <anunakki> np
[21:35] <roezer> Am sick of sync and social networking  just want to use my computer a browser photo and video editor and nvidia support out of the box any ideas of a distro
[21:35] <anunakki> np, uploading screenshot of one of my vms
[21:36] <streulma> ubottu: apt-get install gnome-shell
[21:36] <anunakki> just to give you an idea of what you can do
[21:36] <Mrokii> funkt: Just be prepared to fiddle around with the options. :) There are quite a few and there are a few plugins as well that are interesting.
[21:36] <gordonjcp> roezer: kxstudio?
[21:36] <funkt> superb thanks!
[21:36] <bobweaver> !info gnome-shell | streulma
[21:36] <dr_willis> roezer:  i dont think its legal for disrtos to include the nvidia drivers by default.
[21:36] <invariant> roezer, Linux has Cinerella, but otherwise :/
[21:37] <roezer> yea it's a bummer dr wilis am looking at kxstudio
[21:37] <ThinkT510> roezer: openshot is a good video editor
[21:37] <dr_willis> video editing is a big area with a lot of tools.. but it depends on what sort of editing you want to do
[21:37] <bobweaver> dr_willis, there is a curve on that but not distros that have money. and are registered in certian  areas
[21:37] <invariant> roezer, you should first select a video editor and then an OS, I suppose.
[21:37] <bobweaver> nvidia ^^
[21:37] <roezer> think t510 still it crashes too often and causes a jamming sound in some vids
[21:37] <dr_willis> bobweaver:  then ya got the small guys that just toss it in anyway ;)
[21:38] <bobweaver> dr_willis,  hence how minty things are
[21:38] <bobweaver> ireland
[21:38] <invariant> roezer, geeks generally cared more for text editors and compilers, which is the reason you don't see a lot of those free tools.
[21:39] <ThinkT510> roezer: i've never had a jamming sound but yeah it has crashed for me too, i just save often with it
[21:39] <invariant> roezer, Cinerella has been used professionally, AFAIK.
[21:39] <bobweaver> not the uk and backer is not million dollar man
[21:39] <invariant> roezer, it does require a beast of  a machine and a competent computer user.
[21:39] <roezer> Take shotwell for example it imports images puts them into date based floders
[21:39] <anunakki> frankt, http://i.imgur.com/NJLtU.jpg mind you that is freebsd/fluxbox/cairo-dock but i'm working on a vm with ubuntu/openbox/cairo-dock at the moment and i want to say it looks 100x better running cairo-dock in ubuntu than it does freebsd
[21:39] <anunakki> much more you can do
[21:40] <gordonjcp> I've never managed to get shotwell to work
[21:40] <roezer> I just copy my images into a folder upload what I need and delete the rest dont need those dates
[21:40] <invariant> gordonjcp, I did.
[21:40] <invariant> gordonjcp, I even got old versions to work.
[21:40] <Argure> yay, ipv6 works.
[21:40] <searching> I removed flashplayer 11.x.x.x and I have a .deb file with flashplayer 10.2.159 and it is installing same 11.x.x.x
[21:40] <gordonjcp> invariant: I think I maybe don't understand it
[21:40] <Argure> argure@geonosis:~$ sudo ip addr add 2a01:7c8:aaae:218::1/48 dev eth0
[21:40] <Argure> argure@geonosis:~$ sudo ip route add default via 2a01:7c8:aaae::1
[21:41] <bobweaver> !info unity-lens-photos | gordonjcp  you can synch up on start up :)
[21:41] <gordonjcp> invariant: I plug my camera in, after a few minutes it eventually shows me a window with lots of tiny thumbnails, and that's it
[21:41] <invariant> I think if you are a video engineer, that you should probably just write your own video software.
[21:41] <invariant> If you actually understand what you are doing, that's essentially what it would come down to.
[21:41] <roezer> invariant was looking at  Cinerella but had a kde based system
[21:41] <gordonjcp> bobweaver: none of that makes sense to me
[21:41] <invariant> roezer, how would that be relevant?
[21:42] <SonikkuAmerica> I was just about to ask the same thing
[21:42] <gordonjcp> bobweaver: I just want to open the directory on the camera, and look at the images in an image viewer
[21:42] <levi_> hey some one i seem to have 2 acconts on here how do i swithc back to angelpossum
[21:42] <invariant> roezer, you can run any X application.
[21:42] <gordonjcp> bobweaver: I really want to get rid of the stupid "open this folder in shotwell" bar
[21:42] <invariant> roezer, KDE is built on top of X, just like GTK+ is.
[21:42] <invariant> roezer, there is a slightly more complex structure on some websites explaining the relationship in more detail.
[21:43] <roezer> invariant  so it's loading another wm
[21:43] <levi_> hello
[21:43] <invariant> roezer, no, it is not.
[21:43] <bobweaver> gordonjcp,  then set the default things to what yoou want ... wait are you using unity ?
[21:43] <roezer> like xfce loads gnome
[21:43] <ThinkT510> roezer: no
[21:43] <gordonjcp> bobweaver: yes
[21:43] <invariant> roezer, you have no idea about how things work.
[21:43] <invariant> roezer, before complaining, you should first learn how things do work.
[21:43] <gordonjcp> bobweaver: I might just uninstall rhythmbox and shotwell, since I never use them and they don't work properly
[21:43] <levi_> hey some one i seem to have 2 acconts on here how do i swithc back to angelpossum
[21:44] <invariant> roezer, it's not like the Internet isn't full of free information on how things work.
[21:44] <dr_willis> levi_:  /nick yourothernick
[21:44] <ThinkT510> roezer: there can only be one window manager working at any one time
[21:44] <roezer> invariant  I manage to get them working most of the ime anyway :)
[21:44] <levi_> i need help
[21:44] <invariant> roezer, that's good, but you can just run cinerella on whatever you are doing, but, like I said, it requires some serious skill to use.
[21:44] <bobweaver> gordonjcp,  you have open unity dash and typed in "details "  and open that ?
[21:45] <levi_> didnt work i clicked my self on this bar------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------->
[21:45] <bobweaver> gordonjcp,  then go to default apps you can set weth you want from there
[21:45] <bobweaver> reads over dbus
[21:46] <gordonjcp> bobweaver: yeah, that's not what I was talking about at all
[21:46] <invariant> http://www.heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra_shots.php
[21:46] <invariant> Cinerella looks quite alive and kicking from here.
[21:46] <bobweaver> lol gordonjcp  then what are you talking about
[21:46] <invariant> I never did anything remotely complex with it, however.
[21:47] <drecute> is it compulsory I install Kerberos in order to join to an active directory (samba)
[21:47] <gordonjcp> bobweaver: if I plug my camera in and browse to its directory with nautilus, there's a whacking great bar about an inch high that says "OPEN THIS FOLDER IN NAUTILUS"
[21:47] <levi_> how do i get to default apps
[21:47] <gordonjcp> sorry, not nautilus, shotwell
[21:47] <bobweaver> gordonjcp,  screenshot ?
[21:48] <roezer> invariant will try  Cinerella in a new ubuntu studio install and work from there
[21:48] <gordonjcp> bobweaver: what's *really* annoying is that if I plug my phone in there are two bars, taking up a lot of the window, one for rhythmbox and one for shotwell
[21:48] <BKTech86> hi! I would like to add my bluetooth headphones to the alsa list of devices in Precise.  Can anyone point me in the right direction? thanks!
[21:48] <levi_> gordonjcp:me
[21:48] <bobweaver> !screenshot | gordonjcp would you like to take a screen shot to show this off ?
[21:48] <levi_> will some one help me
[21:48] <gordonjcp> bobweaver: christ on a bike, be patient
[21:49] <gordonjcp> yes, I'll get a screenshot
[21:49] <gordonjcp> I know perfectly well how to get a screenshot
[21:49] <bobweaver> levi_,  open dash type in details open it and go to default apps
[21:49] <gordonjcp> first I have to plug either the camera or the phone in
[21:49] <Guest47682> hi everyone, i need some help. i have a raid 0 set up with 3 hard drives. in that raid 0 setup i partitioned about 75% of the disk space to a windows installation and about 300 gb are not formatted. i'm in the ubuntu live cd right now and would like to format that 300 gb to an ubuntu format and then install ubuntu on the 300gb. gparted doesnt detect the 3 hard drives to be in a raid 0 configuration, even with kparted addon installed.
[21:49] <Guest47682> i tried to install ubuntu already and the installation failed. the installation said ubuntu has experience an internal error; title: ubiquity crashed with KeyError in plugin_on_next_clicked(): 'use_device' executable path /usr/lib/ubiquity/bin/ubiquity
[21:49] <gordonjcp> settle down, dude
[21:49] <bobweaver> gordonjcp,  sorrry
[21:50] <escott> Guest47682, what raid controller
[21:50] <BKTech86> does anyone know how to add audio devices to alsa in precise?
[21:50] <levi_> sorrythanks
[21:51] <invariant> roezer, why would you do a new install?
[21:51] <gordonjcp> bobweaver: http://www.gjcp.net/~gordonjcp/nautilus.jpg
[21:51] <gordonjcp> BKTech86: plug them in, and they are detected
[21:51] <gordonjcp> BKTech86: What exactly are you trying to do?
[21:51] <Guest47682> i have the Asus P8Z77-V Pro. would that be the Z77 chipset?
[21:51] <BKTech86> gordonjcp: I'm trying to use them in audio editing software
[21:51] <escott> !fakeraid | Guest47682
[21:51] <BKTech86> gordonjcp: but according to `aplay -l` they are not detected
[21:52] <invariant> roezer, you can install studio, edubuntu, ubuntu, kubuntu, etc. all at the same time.
[21:52] <BKTech86> gordonjcp: for other sound applications they work fine
[21:52] <escott> Guest47682, long and short is that what you have is not raid, probably wont work, and is not worth your time
[21:52] <gordonjcp> BKTech86: what is it?
[21:52] <Anternat> hi i have 10.04 server which i can only use ssh to access. I have lost access although it stays in the network when powered on.(Neither by hostname nor by ip). Happened after i did an install about security camera software. what are my options to gain access again?
[21:52] <BKTech86> gordonjcp: what is what?
[21:52] <gordonjcp> BKTech86: the sound device
[21:52] <BKTech86> gordonjcp: a bluetooth headset
[21:53] <gordonjcp> BKTech86: ah, I've never successfuly got one of those working
[21:53] <BKTech86> gordonjcp: it works
[21:53] <gordonjcp> BKTech86: yeah, you've had more luck with bluetooth than me
[21:53] <escott> Anternat, console access
[21:53] <gordonjcp> I have a bluetooth earpiece that works with my PS3 but nothing else, and I've no idea why not
[21:53] <BKTech86> gordonjcp: haha .. i dont understand why they made it such an iffy technology
[21:54] <bobweaver> gordonjcp, I see wht you are saying now maybe there is dbus setting ?
[21:54] <BKTech86> gordonjcp: you're familiar with the visibility/pairing process?
[21:54] <gordonjcp> BKTech86: *extremely* familiar
[21:54] <BKTech86> Anyone an alsa expert?
[21:54] <gordonjcp> BKTech86: more so than I could ever wish to be
[21:55] <BKTech86> gordonjcp: once you've gotten it to work, it's actually extremely convenient
[21:55] <Anternat> escott it is a standolone pc, no kb, no monitor, only the network cable connected to my modem port
[21:55] <BKTech86> any idea how i might be able to get this device to show up in the alsa list?
[21:55] <BKTech86> that why i can explicitly request it in my audio editing program?
[21:55] <escott> Anternat, then buy a keyboard and monitor
[21:56] <funkt> Hi there I just posted a question about getting bottom bar in unity to show folders etc I am still trying achieve this if anyone has any ideas this is what I am trying achieve http://i.stack.imgur.com/15F2g.jpg
[21:56] <Anternat> what else can i do ?
[21:56] <dr_willis> funkt:  looks like a frankenstein combo of gnome-classic running unity side panel.
[21:56] <escott> Anternat, yank the drive
[21:56] <bobweaver> gordonjcp,  what is org.gnome.desktop.media-handling
[21:56] <funkt> thats the one"
[21:56] <funkt> I love it!
[21:57] <funkt> any ideas?
[21:57] <bobweaver> gordonjcp, do you have dconf-tools installed ?
[21:57] <dr_willis> funkt:  use the various docks we reccomended.. they are very configurable
[21:57] <funkt> I wish i knew how to do that
[21:57] <dr_willis> install awn, use its themes
[21:57] <funkt> i tried cairo and that just gave me a docky thing with all my applications
[21:57] <OerHeks> gordonjcp,  i understand you want your camera open a specific program, i think that could be done with udev rules > http://www.linuxforu.com/2012/06/some-nifty-udev-rules-and-examples/
[21:58] <gordonjcp> bobweaver: hm, removing rhythmbox now makes it want to open in VLC
[21:58] <dr_willis> They are VERY configurable..
[21:58] <gordonjcp> OerHeks: no, I don't want it to open anything
[21:58] <funkt> not really like above how could I do it do you still suggest cairo?
[21:58] <bobweaver> gordonjcp,  there is also org.gnome.nautilus.desktop but I am not seeing anything in there
[21:58] <gordonjcp> OerHeks: I want the little bar that says "this is a digital camera, open everything in shotwell" in the nautilus window to go away
[21:59] <funkt> all I want to so is show my folders and which one i have open rather than scroll through the unity bar
[21:59] <Anternat> hi i have 10.04 server which i can only use ssh to access. I have lost access although it stays in the network when powered on.(Neither by hostname nor by ip). Happened after i did an install about security camera software. what are my options to gain access again?
[21:59] <dr_willis> gordonjcp:  i think i saw on askubuntu how to do thjat.
[21:59] <funkt> and sometimes loose it all together
[21:59] <bobweaver> ahh maybe org.gnome.nautilus.preferences
[21:59] <bobweaver> I think that that is it could be wrong google foo time
[21:59] <dr_willis> funkt:  you are using the term 'folders' to  mean 'open applications' ?
[21:59] <funkt> erm yeah
[22:00] <funkt> sorry keep referring to that
[22:00] <funkt> yes open applications on a smart bottom bar
[22:00] <dr_willis> funkt:  you can shrink the left side panel to show more icons if thats all you need.
[22:00] <funkt> would be ideal!
[22:00] <dr_willis> most every dock has some sort of 'windows-list' feature
[22:00] <funkt> no I just want to see what folders i have open rather than use unity side bar
[22:01] <funkt> http://i.stack.imgur.com/15F2g.jpg
[22:01] <funkt> just like that screenshot
[22:01] <dr_willis> that screen shot is not showing any open. ;)
[22:01] <funkt> ok well imagine it had some open
[22:01] <funkt> lol
[22:01] <dr_willis> the various docks normally have a 'dock' mode where they look like that
[22:02] <funkt> what docks?
[22:02] <dr_willis> !docks
[22:02] <funkt> sorry I just don't understad
[22:02] <dr_willis> the ones we mentioned earlier...
[22:02] <funkt> stand
[22:02] <funkt> I know you did
[22:02] <funkt> ....
[22:02] <dr_willis> cairo and avant-window-navibator have more features then most people ever need.
[22:03] <dr_willis> http://glx-dock.org/mc_album.php?a=3 cairo dock screen shots
[22:03] <funkt> I mean i used to use a terminal command and the bottom bar would appear and unity sidebar that was in a previous version
[22:03] <InspectorCluseau> plank works for me
[22:03] <funkt> you don't know of any hacks like that?
[22:04] <bobweaver> funkt,  if you like you can use gnome-classic and Unity 2d on top of each other
[22:04] <funkt> thats it!
[22:04] <funkt> thats what i want!
[22:04] <funkt> how do i do that?
[22:04] <funkt> lol
[22:04] <bobweaver> funkt,  you can also kill the pannel in Unity 2d
[22:05] <funkt> brilliant
[22:05] <dr_willis> I said to use the 2 together earlier.......
[22:05] <dr_willis> you said you dident want the gnome2 look.
[22:05] <escott> !pm | Guest47682
[22:05] <rbnswartz> bobweaver is unity 2d still under development?
[22:05] <funkt> how do i do this amazing thing?
[22:05] <escott> Guest47682, I've said all I'm going to say about fakeraid
[22:05] <dr_willis> unity2d is gone in 12.10
[22:05] <bobweaver> rbnswartz,  buy some ;)
[22:05] <soundconjurer> For me, Unity needs to be optimized to run faster. That's my only complaint.
[22:05] <bobweaver> by*
[22:06] <Guest47682> ok, but the installer keeps failing and doesn't recognize a partition in any of my 3 hard drives
[22:06] <bobweaver> funkt,  what is lsb_release -c
[22:06] <bobweaver> funkt,  from terminal that is ^^^
[22:06] <funkt> what and add what is?
[22:06] <dr_willis> seems like a lot of work for just a app-switcher bar.. theres other app-switcher only bars in the repos i recall
[22:07] <bobweaver> funkt,  what version of ubuntu do you hve installed ?
[22:07] <funkt> or just "lsb_release -c"
[22:07] <bobweaver> have *
[22:07] <funkt> 12.04
[22:07] <bobweaver> thanks
[22:07] <dr_willis> !info fbpanel
[22:07] <Dougie187> Does anyone have a good feeling for how the crash report in ubuntu works?
[22:07] <bobweaver> funkt,  open terminal     sudo apt-get build-dep unity-2d
[22:09] <bobweaver> Dougie187,  it uses apport
[22:09] <bobweaver> Dougie187,  you are taling about woopsie ?
[22:09] <abraithwaite> Any networking experts here?
[22:09] <bobweaver> talking *
[22:09] <Dougie187> Is that what it's called?
[22:09] <abraithwaite> I'm having trouble with frequent disconnects
[22:09] <Dougie187> I'm not sure what it's called. but the thing that comes up to make a bug report when some program crashes.
[22:09] <Frostbyte> llutz : there?
[22:10] <bobweaver> Dougie187,  yeah that is it it is awesome what are questions ?
[22:10] <Dougie187> Do you know what it does?
[22:10] <Dave_Maydew> Hi, I have an issue with Unity 3D eating memory
[22:10] <bobweaver> !apport | Dougie187
[22:10] <bobweaver> er
[22:10] <Dave_Maydew> more in 64bit than 32bit
[22:11] <bobweaver> Dougie187,  ther is a GREAT little thing on You tube from the last day (thusday) that talks about what we are up to with that . It is big subject
[22:11] <rreedd4> typing df -h   should show all sda hard drive connected?  sda1 and sda2?
[22:11] <bobweaver> Dougie187, let me try and find link
[22:11] <Dougie187> I'm curious about something kind of weird.
[22:11] <funkt> Ok Bobweaver thanks! what do i do now?
[22:11] <escott> rreedd4, no. only mounted partitions
[22:12] <bobweaver> funkt,  install  gnome-shell
[22:12] <funkt> fbpanel looks just what i want too
[22:12] <xDesu> fdisk -l
[22:12] <Dave_Maydew> Is it a memory leak or another issue with Unity 3D?
[22:12] <abraithwaite> anyone know what could be causing this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/224403/frequent-disconnects-ubuntu-desktop-12-10-x64-intel-82579v-e1000e
[22:12] <funkt> how do i do that bobweaver?
[22:13] <funkt> sudo apt install gnome shell?
[22:13] <Dougie187> bobweaver: ok, so I was banned from Diablo 3 for hacking, and I didn't hack. So I'm trying to come up with a list of things that could be detected as violating the terms of use for Diablo 3.
[22:13] <bobweaver> !hacker | Dougie187
[22:13] <rreedd4> escott how do i see if sda1 and sda2 are connected?
[22:13] <Dougie187> :P I know.
[22:13] <Dougie187> I'm trying to determine if apport, when detecting a crash, could miscorrectly flag warden to think you're hacking.
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> rreedd4  you mean mounted?
[22:14] <rreedd4> yes
[22:14] <MonkeyDust> rreedd4  type mount
[22:14] <escott> rreedd4, are connected. if they exist they are connected
[22:14] <xDesu> !piracy|xDesu
[22:15] <xDesu> Well that answers that question.
[22:15] <xDesu> !piracy
[22:15] <xDesu> ah
[22:15] <Dougie187> bobweaver: does that seem... reasonable?
[22:16] <bobweaver> Dougie187,  I have no clue fin mr pittman all I know is that there is great I mean great great great progress in bug fixing because of woopsie
[22:16] <escott> xDesu, if you want to talk to the bot its best if you chat with it directly
[22:16] <funkt> anybody used fbpanel or ever got it to run?
[22:16] <BKTech86> can anyone help me get my bluetooth headphones to display as a device in alsa?
[22:16] <bobweaver> funkt,  you are missing the - in gnome-shell
[22:16] <funkt> oh cheers
[22:17] <Dougie187> bobweaver: sure. I think apport and woopsie are awesome. I'm just trying to figure out how much information they provide.
[22:17] <xDesu> escott I have no interest in talking to them, I just wanted to know how the bot works.
[22:17] <Dougie187> bobweaver: do you know if there's a way to force a bug report in apport/woopsie?
[22:17] <bobweaver> funkt,  there is more :)
[22:17] <funkt> bobweaver:sudo apt install gnome-shell?
[22:18] <xDesu> *apt-get
[22:18] <bobweaver> funkt,  here     apt://gnome-panel
[22:18] <bobweaver> funkt,  open that in browser
[22:18] <funkt> its already installed
[22:18] <funkt> thank you
[22:18] <bobweaver> sweet
[22:19] <Dougie187> bobweaver: do you know if there is a room dedicated to apport/woopsie developers?
[22:19] <axgb> Hi
[22:19] <bobweaver> funkt,  sounds like you are going to want to kill unity2d-pannel though because you want to run unity 2d and have old ffects right ?
[22:20] <escott> !launchpad | Dougie187
[22:20] <funkt> yeah basically unity and just an open application bar at the bottom
[22:20] <bobweaver> funkt, you have to kill unity panel 2x  like        killall unity-2d-pannel && killall unity-2d-pannel
[22:20] <funkt> ok if I kill them can i get them back?
[22:20] <bobweaver> funkt,  correct so you just want dash and launcher of Unity then
[22:20] <axgb> I have multiple desktop enviroments on my laptop, GNOME (the one i want to use) has a blue desktop background and windows are transparent and graphics really dont work What should I do?
[22:21] <bobweaver> funkt,  launch then again in terminal  unity-2d-pannel
[22:21] <bobweaver> funkt,  but it will cover up for gnome-pannel
[22:21] <bobweaver> but not the bottom one
[22:21] <funkt> ermm.... what I would like is unity and a bottom bar with whatever folders I have open at the bottom like the old gnome style
[22:22] <funkt> one at the top, bottom and unity on the side
[22:22] <axgb>  I have multiple desktop enviroments on my laptop, GNOME (the one i want to use) has a blue desktop background and windows are transparent and graphics really dont work, it is unusable. how do i fix it
[22:22] <bobweaver> funkt,  correct then that  would do that so you need to make sure when you sign in that you use gnome-session then after logging in open terminal and enter in unity-2d
[22:22] <bobweaver> that is it
[22:22] <escott> axgb, its an issue with your graphics card. what kind of card do you have
[22:23] <axgb> im just checking
[22:23] <funkt> oh i see so use those kill functions in the terminal?
[22:23] <bobweaver> funkt,  I mean unity2d can run off walyen for shakes
[22:23] <bobweaver> if configed right ^^
[22:23] <funkt> right
[22:23] <funkt> what does that mean sorry?
[22:24] <axgb> escott ATI radeon 9200
[22:24] <bobweaver> funkt,  unity 2d has three parts to it       unity-2d-shell  unity-2d-spreed unity-2d-pannel
[22:24] <bobweaver> funkt,  all 2 parts are run when you run unity-2d
[22:24] <bobweaver> er 3
[22:24] <funkt> you know what this is far too complicated
[22:24] <funkt> thanks for you help mate!
[22:24] <escott> axgb, what drivers are you using? open source or proprietary (suggestion would be the same in either case -- try the other)
[22:24] <funkt> honestly
[22:24] <dr_willis> funkt:  if you just want a bottom type panel.. use Lubuntu/Lxde ;)
[22:24] <funkt> I am just going to have to get comfortable with this
[22:24] <axgb> how do i check and how do i change
[22:25] <escott> axgb, what version of ubuntu?
[22:25] <bobweaver> funkt,  no probs if you like I was 2d dev I can make a dang bottom pannel in like 5 hours you can come back and find me if you like
[22:25] <axgb> lubuntu 12.04 32bit but i installed edubuntu and gnome, all works except gnome
[22:25] <funkt> dr_willis, bobweaver and all thanks so much for all the help!
[22:25] <dr_willis> funkt:  http://www.debianadmin.com/lubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin-lts-beta-2-screenshots-gallery.html
[22:25] <escott> axgb, jockey-gtk
[22:25] <funkt> hahhaha!
[22:25] <funkt> seriously?
[22:25] <bobweaver> so that it is what you want . But I do have a wish list on amazon ;)
[22:26] <funkt> Ohhh i see
[22:26] <axgb> what is jockey-gtk?
[22:26] <funkt> lol
[22:26] <bobweaver> correct funkt  look at my youtube videos
[22:26] <dr_willis> axgb:  a tool to install addational drivers for some hardware
[22:26] <funkt> well honestly mate I'm sure it would be amazing thank you all the same!
[22:26] <escott> axgb, its a program for proprietary drivers
[22:26] <Dougie187> Does a core dump read ram?
[22:26] <jure> help, got fresh installed ubuntu 12.04 LTS.. got china simbols.. :( need engleash.. :(
[22:26] <funkt> thanks for the help!
[22:26] <Catbuntu> Hi
[22:26] <escott> Dougie187, yes
[22:26] <bobweaver> np have a good one funkt
[22:26] <axgb> shall i check it out and install some other driver?
[22:27] <Dougie187> So, if there is an application monitoring a section of ram, and apport tries to generate a core dump, would that look like you were trying to read the "jailed" section of ram?
[22:27] <dr_willis> axgb:  thats the tool normally used in 12.04 to get drivers for nvidia and ati cards and many wireless cards
[22:27] <axgb> okay
[22:27] <hyun_> Hi, are there many ppl use ubuntu in embedded system?
[22:28] <escott> Dougie187, i think core dumps are triggered by the kernel. i dont think apport does anything to cause the core dump
[22:28] <dr_willis> in 12.10 you get to it from the 'software-sources' tool - it has its own tab
[22:28] <axgb> shall i sudo apt-get install jockey-jtk
[22:28] <dr_willis> axgb:  its installed allready in 12.04
[22:28] <dr_willis> and in that other app in 12.10
[22:28] <escott> axgb, it is probably already installed. run it like you would any other program
[22:28] <Dougie187> escott: the wiki says that apport uses "cat /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern |/usr/share/apport/apport %p %s %c" to get a core dump
[22:29] <bobweaver> funkt,  here is some work that I did for Ubuntu Christians Though i am *NOT* a christian   just like to code :)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po8nqy1PP_U
[22:29] <bobweaver> tat is all untiy 2d
[22:30] <escott> Dougie187, if you look at that /proc/sys file it is describing to the kernel what it should do when it makes a core dump. you could change that to create a core dump file
[22:31] <Dougie187> escott: ok. it's not actually getting a core dump? I'm kind of confused. :P
[22:31] <funkt> hey bobweaver: thats exactly it very nice I have to say!
[22:31] <axgb> a rogram called "additional drivers" popped up, is that it?
[22:31] <funkt> and there you have the bottom bar!
[22:32] <escott> Dougie187, the kernel sees the program do something it should and triggers a GPF. the kernel initiates the core dump and passes the output to the command specified in /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern. the kernel does the memory read. apport is involved after the fact as the kernel feeds it data
[22:32] <escott> axgb, yes
[22:32] <escott> Dougie187, if that file were empty it would probably disable core dumps
[22:32] <Dougie187> escott: ok, so can anything else detect the memory read?
[22:32] <escott> Dougie187, but check the man pages on that file
[22:33] <Dougie187> ok
[22:33] <axgb> it says "no proprietry drivers are in use on your system"
[22:33] <escott> Dougie187, i dont know how something "detects a memory read" is this a hardware feature or are you running something in valgrind
[22:33] <Dougie187> It's not my software. :P It's Blizzards Warden
[22:34] <axgb> escott: what do i do? i have it open, it says "no propartitiory drivers are in use"
[22:34] <bobweaver> funkt,  just start unity-2d after you log into gnome throw back or whatever it is called  just type unity-2d into a termianl
[22:34] <escott> Dougie187, there have been a lot of complaints about blizzard blocking people out of games just because they use linux. Blizzard doesnt seem to care
[22:34] <jure> help!!! please catch me on private if someone has an ideo over this issue -> full language support was impossible to install
[22:34] <jure> [Errno 2] No usable temporary directory found in ['/tmp', '/var/tmp', '/usr/tmp', '/'] -> my ubuntu 12.04 LTS is getting china symbols???
[22:35] <escott> axgb, try enabling the prop drivers. might be better, might be worse, probably will be different
[22:35] <Dougie187> escott: yeah, I'm one of them. I'm trying to figure out why they might have banned me so I can get them to reproduce it. :P
[22:35] <axgb> where do i go to enable it?
[22:35] <escott> axgb, that application should allow you to install those drivers
[22:35] <axgb> there is an enable button, it is grey
[22:36] <escott> axgb, you need to run that program with gksudo then. it should have prompted you for the password, not sure why it didn't. in terminal run "gksudo jockey-gtk"
[22:36] <aboudreault> Do you know that error? g++-4.6.real: error: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.4.3/../../../../lib/crti.o: No such file or directory
[22:36] <aboudreault>
[22:36] <jure> C
[22:36] <jure> C.UTF-8
[22:36] <jure> ja_JP.utf8
[22:36] <jure> POSIX
[22:36] <jure> sl_SI.utf8
[22:37] <FloodBot1> jure: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:37] <jure> zh_CN.utf8
[22:39] <TheShamanoid> hey ubuntu developers
[22:39] <TheShamanoid> just wanted to say that the ubuntu font is one of the most amazing fonts i ever used
[22:39] <TheShamanoid> cheers
[22:39] <axgb> its the same with gksudo, it just says" no proparitory drivers in use", a few empty boxes, and at the bottem a grey(cant be clicked) enable button
[22:40] <crackerjackz> for some reason terminal in xfce doesn't render any text, it's just a blank black background when i open the terminal
[22:40] <escott> axgb, it may be your card is too new to be supported by the prop drivers
[22:41] <axgb> that is not possible, it is a few years old
[22:42] <MonkeyDust> crackerjackz  maybe both foreground and background are black, check the profile settinngs (colors)
[22:42] <crackerjackz> axgb: what are you trying to do?
[22:42] <escott> axgb, you can also try to install via apt-get install fglrx
[22:43] <subman> How can I be sure that my nvidia drivers are actually running?  Within my bug report, I notice that it says:  NVIDIA binary Xorg driver, kernel module and VDPAU library (Proprietary, Disabled, Not in use) in several places
[22:43] <escott> subman, glxinfo | grep -i renderer
[22:43] <axgb> crackerjackerz : i am trying to get gnome to work, the graphics are not working, it is blue and only shows outlines of windows, works c**p
[22:43] <crackerjackz> MonkeyDust: you're a genius, thanks man :)
[22:44] <crackerjackz> axgb: what kind of graphics card do you have?
[22:44] <axgb> ATI radeon 9200
[22:45] <crackerjackz> i used to have that card.. 128 mb right?
[22:45] <subman> escott, OpenGL renderer string: GeForce 6200/PCI/SSE2
[22:45] <axgb> not sure, i think so
[22:45] <subman> escott, that does not tell me which driver is in use though
[22:45] <crackerjackz> axgb: they had two different ones i believe.. one was 128mb and the other was 256 mb
[22:45] <escott> subman, i would think that means the nvidia drivers, but i dont use nvidia so i cant be sure
[22:45] <crackerjackz> thats an old school card
[22:46] <axgb> i know, its a fairly old laptop
[22:46] <crackerjackz> i used to play doom 3 on it
[22:46] <escott> crackerjackz, did ati/amd at some point start renumbering cards. i thought they were pretty consistent in "higher is newer"
[22:46] <crackerjackz> escott: i'm not too sure actually
[22:46] <crackerjackz> axgb: but what version of ubuntu are you using?
[22:47] <axgb> lubuntu 12.04
[22:47] <Faceless> I'm going to buy a new laptop, I'm gonna run Ubuntu on it. I want an SSD, ~13" display and as low price as possible, do you guys have any recommendations?
[22:47] <escott> !hcl | Faceless
[22:47] <dr_willis> system76 - sells ubuntu preinstalled laptops ;)
[22:47] <LordThumper> Hi
[22:48] <subman> escott for future reference, I would grep 'OpenGL version string'.  It revealed the driver.
[22:48] <axgb> one very quick recommendation, faceless, DO NOT get a OCZ ssd as they are very unreliable
[22:48] <jdk> hi, where is #12p  ??????????????
[22:48] <dr_willis> Theres that new chromebook out for lik $250 you can put ubuntu on also. :)
[22:48] <LordThumper> Would a driver module compiled for x86 work on a x64 bit Ubuntu installation?
[22:48] <escott> subman, renderer says it for intel so thats what i always look at
[22:48] <crackerjackz> axgb: do you have the ati catylist control center installed?
[22:48] <souhaib> hi
[22:48] <Faceless> axqb, Noticed. :P
[22:48] <crackerjackz> catalyst*
[22:48] <Faceless> Noted*
[22:48] <jdk> hi, where is #12p  ???????????  i am using Xchat
[22:49] <axgb> my brother lost all his university work due to a wretched OCZ hard drive. Any members on IRC who have one, make a backup, it WILL fail soon.
[22:49] <k1l> jdk: better ask in #freenode
[22:49] <Faceless> ouch
[22:49] <axgb> ive installed fgrlx, what do i do now>
[22:50] <subman> Anyone running a GeForce 6200 successfully with acceptable opengl framerates?
[22:50] <dr_willis> reboot axgb
[22:50] <OerHeks> axgb please don't hoax, one failure is not going to happen to all of us.
[22:50] <jdk> k1l: thanks :P
[22:50] <axgb> no, it said all over the internet that it was very unreliable (according to him)
[22:51] <crackerjackz> if you're still able to mount the drive might be able to recover some of the files with testdisk or photorec
[22:51] <axgb> should i reboot and then what? because the IRC connection will have been ended
[22:51] <crackerjackz> axgb: yeah reboot
[22:52] <escott> axgb, flash drives in general have poor failure modes (sudden and complete)
[22:54] <himawijaya> test
[22:55] <bastidrazor> 1 2, 1 2
[22:55] <guntbert_> himawijaya: not here please
[22:55] <TheLordOfTime> !test | himawijaya
[22:55] <grimeton> testicles ... one ... two ...
[22:55] <gordonjcp> grimeton: get back onto 16kHz, you
[22:55] <himawijaya> sorry
[22:56] <bastidrazor> Ham it up
[22:56] <bobweaver> TheLordOfTime,  you are here no Fear me stuff ? :)
[22:56] <himawijaya> i just installed ubuntu 12.10
[22:56] <bobweaver> always makes me chuckle TheLordOfTime
[22:57] <axgb> i am back and i have restarted and installed thing you said
[22:57] <serp_> axgb: np, just tell him to restore it from his backup
[22:57] <axgb> what, the SSD, he did no backups
[22:58] <serp_> no backups?
[22:58] <axgb> after hearing that they are "super tough and very reliable harddrive techbology"
[22:58] <serp_> i'm glad it failed then, hope he learned his lesson
[22:58] <bobweaver> serp ....
[22:58] <silverfix> hello
[22:58] <escott> axgb, the problem isnt the hardware. its the firmware. until that matures you should be very wary of SSDs
[22:59] <axgb> i restarted and now when i boot into gnome it goes into gnome classic, can i get full gnome>
[22:59] <axgb> *?
[22:59] <escott> axgb, sounds like it likes the fglrx drivers even less than the open source. you may just want to buy a newer card
[23:00] <axgb> can i fix the drivers, its a old-ish laptop, i dont really want do be taking it apart and fitting cards
[23:00] <escott> axgb, they dont even make cards for laptops so...
[23:01] <axgb> there is a sticker on the laptop saying ATI radeon 9200
[23:01] <axgb> i assumed it is correct, the default installed benchmark software said nothing
[23:01] <axgb> but are there any alternatives i can use
[23:02] <axgb> i assumed the sticker is correct
[23:04] <crackerjackz> axgb: does it work from the live cd?
[23:04] <axgb> *sorry, its the mobility radeon 9200, it said on wikipedia that that is used in laptops
[23:04] <axgb> i dont know about live cd, i installed from CD-RW live cd and then deleted it
[23:05] <crackerjackz> axgb: do you have the ati catalyst control center installed?
[23:05] <axgb> this is ubuntu, im not sure about that
[23:06] <escott> axgb, thats an almost 10 year old card. time to start thinking about upgrading
[23:06] <crackerjackz> i used to use that card on gentoo i had the ati catalyst control center installed
[23:06] <axgb> gosh, i thought it was 7 years
[23:06] <crackerjackz> was for the desktop though
[23:07] <axgb> though the laptops motherboard was upgraded, im not sure whether the graphics card was as well, whether the sticker was wrong
[23:07] <escott> axgb, it was released in 2003. it would ship in devices for a couple years, but the chip itself is old old old
[23:08] <escott> axgb, you changed the motherboard on a laptop. who does that? check sudo lshw -C video
[23:09] <axgb> it runs unity fine, it runs lxde fine (of course) it runs gnome classic fine, is there something fundamentally different about gnome 3 - isn't it very simiar to  unity
[23:09] <crackerjackz> axgb: run the command escott gave you
[23:10] <axgb>   *-display UNCLAIMED             description: VGA compatible controller        product: M9+ 5C61 [Radeon Mobility 9200 (AGP)]        vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)        physical id: 0        bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0        version: 01        width: 32 bits        clock: 66MHz        capabilities: agp agp-2.0 pm vga_controller cap_list        configuration: latency=66 mingnt=8        resources: memory:d8000000-df
[23:10] <axgb> yes the sticker is correct
[23:10] <crackerjackz> next time use a pastebin
[23:10] <axgb> gosh, i thought it was like 5 years old, not ten
[23:10] <noiro> Is there a way to compress files as a .zip?
[23:11] <crackerjackz> its and old school card i remember playing doom 3 when it first came out on that card
[23:11] <escott> axgb, you might have bought it more recently, but the age of the chip is counted from when it is first released not from the last device to ship with it
[23:11] <axgb> okay
[23:11] <escott> axgb, if you pay them enough to make it profitable they will print something from the 70s doesn't make it a new chip though
[23:11] <axgb> but will it work with gnome - if gnome is too (whatever) for it, can you tell me
[23:12] <trism> noiro: in nautilus, right click the file/folder, choose Compress... and select .zip in the dropdown
[23:12] <escott> axgb, its not going to work well. paradoxically you might do better with 12.10 or 13.04 (when that is released)
[23:12] <escott> axgb, the gnome team has done some work to improve the software rendering when the hardware is not good enough
[23:13] <axgb> when it did work, and was transparent and did some crap, it did not lagg or anything
[23:13] <crackerjackz> axgb: does jockey show any other drivers for your card?
[23:13] <Qwertba55> #ubuntu-beginners
[23:14] <axgb> no, jockey does absolutely nothing
[23:14] <LordThumper> Sorry for asking again
[23:14] <escott> axgb, sorry i lead you astray there. i thought 9200 meant the card was newer
[23:14] <LordThumper> But would x86 driver modules (.ko) work on a x64 installation?
[23:14] <axgb> no, some other person said it was from 2003
[23:14] <crackerjackz> axgb: it is
[23:15] <axgb> should i give up and just use unity and gnomeclassic
[23:15] <LordThumper> Or do I need to recompile?
[23:15] <axgb> or is there something else i should do
[23:16] <phax> HI guys I am on Ubuntu 12.0.4 and am using a router which gets the DNS from the ISP. Everytime Ubuntu starts up the /etc/resolv.conf the nameserver entries are missing. If i kill and restart dhclient the entries are present...how do I fix it?
[23:16] <axgb> ok goodbye i think i will stick with gnome classic, lxde and unity.
[23:17] <crackerjackz> i was gonna help him but he gave up
[23:17] <RickZilla> ubuntu 12.10, is there a way to remove all of the non-western fonts that come with the default install, without removing them one by one in the software center?
[23:17] <WeThePeople> hi anybody know the command to start chrome?
[23:17] <grimeton> RickZilla: open a terminal and use apt-get
[23:18] <grimeton> WeThePeople: chrome
[23:18] <RickZilla> grimeton: I know how to use a terminal, just don't know the apt-get commands to remove them
[23:18] <RickZilla> I was hoping to do it graphically
[23:18] <grimeton> RickZilla: list the installed packages: dpkg -l
[23:19] <grimeton> RickZilla: grep the fonts packages that are non western dpkg -l | grep non-western-font-packages
[23:19] <grimeton> RickZilla: return the 2nd column: dpkg -l | grep non-western-font-packages | awk '{print $2}'
[23:19] <almoxarife> RickZilla: use synaptic, search for fonts, delete the fonts
[23:19] <RickZilla> k, I'll try that. What is grep?
[23:19] <grimeton> RickZilla: and remove them apt-get remove $(dpkg -l | grep non-western-font-packages | awk '{print $2}')
[23:19] <grimeton> RickZilla: yeah, use synaptic...
[23:19] <RickZilla> almoxarife: I'm not sure 12.10 can use synaptic like that
[23:20] <almoxarife> RickZilla: of course it can
[23:20] <soundconjurer> Yeah, Synaptic can in 12.10
[23:20] <RickZilla> When I try to install something in 12.10 using synaptic, the "apply" button is greyed out
[23:20] <phax> ls
[23:21] <almoxarife> grimeton: why would 'grep' find a 'non-western......' , you seen that?
[23:21] <soundconjurer> I have tried everything to Dual Boot Windows 8 and Ubuntu 12.04 and also tried 12.10 with UEFI hardware. *sigh*
[23:21] <grimeton> almoxarife: it's a placeholder
[23:22] <RickZilla> Synaptic doesn't work for me...I must be seeing something you're not
[23:22] <grimeton> it says:"Crystall ball auditions are delayed because of unforseeable incidents"
[23:22] <almoxarife> RickZilla: operator error
[23:23] <IOmegaZ> hi everyone
[23:23] <RickZilla> almoxarife: I've used synaptic quite a bit in the past...this is a new install, for some reason the apply button is greyed out...no need to assume that first
[23:23] <almoxarife> RickZilla: you are not using synaptic with admin permission, try it from terminal, 'gksu synaptic'
[23:23] <RickZilla> almoxarife: I'll try that
[23:25] <crackerjackz> i think i found the answer to my sound problem but will someone help me understand what it means? this guy on the forums says.. I figured out the issue. Apt-get upgrade had installed pulseaudio-esound-compat:i386, and removed pulseaudio-esound-compat. Apparently pulseaudio won't start when that package is missing. You'd think it would be a dependency or something.
[23:25] <phax> any ideas guys ?
[23:25] <RickZilla> almoxarife: That did the trick, I'll copy that command for future use...I much prefer synaptic to the software center
[23:25] <RickZilla> thanks for the help
[23:26] <almoxarife> RickZilla: :)
[23:28] <almoxarife> RickZilla: btw, you should leave then fonts, some sites will look like swiss cheese without them
[23:28] <crackerjackz> hrmm no that's not my problem.. i have pulseaudio-esound-compat installed..
[23:29] <almoxarife> crackerjackz: do you see 'pulseaudio' running?
[23:32] <psusi> I'm trying to figure out why when I plug in my headphones, the sound stops coming out of the speakers and only comes out of the headphones under 12.04, but not under 12.10 ( comes out both )
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> crackerjackz: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*     wait 10 seconds and then retry sound
[23:32] <ActionParsnip> psusi: different alsa version, different kernel
[23:33] <psusi> ActionParsnip, I tried booting with the older kernel and it didn't seem to matter
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> psusi: weird. You may need an option in /etc/modprobe/alsa-base.conf    to make it load differently
[23:34] <psusi> so you think it's alsa not pulseaudio?
[23:34] <psusi> according to pacmd, the headphone port is selected for output, but it still comes out of the speakers too
[23:34] <Slagwag> apt-get install smbfs should install the smb packages right?
[23:35] <Slagwag> if i want to mount a network path in command line
[23:35] <Slagwag> i am trying to use CIFS but i got an error saying i am missing the wrong handler
[23:36] <Slagwag> but i read that cifs was the successor to SMB so i am now confused
[23:36] <ActionParsnip> psusi: try:     echo "options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null         reboot to test
[23:36] <MonkeyDust> Slagwag  guess cifs is not for windows
[23:36] <MonkeyDust> Slagwag  cifs is similar to nfs
[23:36] <Slagwag> ah ok
[23:37] <Slagwag> now i did sapt-get install smbfs and i believe it installed but when i try to mount using smbfs
[23:37] <Slagwag> it fails and doesnt recognize it
[23:37] <RickZilla> almoxarife: Even non-western fonts, when I'm reading an English site?
[23:37] <steph__> i have spent most of the afternoon trying to install mythtv without any luck - anyone willing to try to help me?
[23:37] <steph__> i run backend set up and all i get is a black screen
[23:37] <Wipster> good evening, in hostapds setting whats the difference between supported_rates and basic_rates?
[23:37] <RickZilla> steph_: I think this is more of an ubuntu channel, is there a mythbuntu channel somewhere?
[23:38] <steph__> RickZilla, I don't know, but I'll dig around
[23:38] <almoxarife> steph__: see what the folk at #xbmc have to say
[23:39] <lucid> steph: try this link , it shows step by step how to install mythtv  --->  http://parker1.co.uk/mythtv_ubuntu.php
[23:39] <Elladan> So, how do I set up encrypted swap in the 12.10 installer?
[23:40] <Elladan> Because I went into the manual partitioner, and set up an encrypted volume.
[23:40] <Elladan> And then it hard errored out and crashed because I had normal swap.
[23:40] <doomlord> gnome-classic: Is there a way to bring up panel options when you can't see any bare panel pixels? (i can only click on window list,launchers, etc). i tried alt+RMB
[23:41] <Elladan> ... but there is no option to create encrypted swap.  Or layer LVM on top of encryption.  Also if you create an encrypted partition you have to reboot the installer to edit it.
[23:41] <doomlord> maybe there's something in settings menu for it, or a textfile?
[23:41] <frustro> hi all, 2 server 12.04 on 2 vps's.  I remembered 11.04 had "install ubuntu cloud" now it's MAAS that requires hardware.  There there something I'm missing? or would cloud never have worked on a vps?
[23:42] <Catbuntu> Hi
[23:43] <lucid> doomlord: just Alt-Right click
[23:44] <doomlord> seems to only ever bring up options for the particular gadget under the cursor (eg 'edit -menu', preferences for window list/desktops..)
[23:46] <phax> hi lucid
[23:46] <lucid> hey phax
[23:46] <doomlord> i guess i'll have to remove some objects to access the underlying panel
[23:46] <phax> can you assist me with a question on how resolv.conf is generated on Ubuntu 12.0.4
[23:46] <phax> I am on Ubuntu 12.0.4 and am using a router which gets the DNS from the ISP. Everytime Ubuntu starts up the /etc/resolv.conf the nameserver entries are missing. If i kill and restart dhclient the entries are present...how do I fix it?
[23:47] <lucid> phax: i will try
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> Elladan: there are issues with hibernate and encrypted swap if memory serves
[23:49] <IT-L> how i config my BIOS to boot ubunto from my usb flash disk?
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> phax: you can add things using  /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/base      those get  added when DHCP completes
[23:50] <blackshirt> it-l, your board should have support to boot from usb
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> IT-L: press F11 (usually) and you can select the USB to boot
[23:51] <IT-L> my board support USB-zip & USB-HDD
[23:51] <lucid> phax: you have a message
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> IT-L: try USB HDD
[23:51] <IT-L> ok, thanks
[23:52] <IT-L> I try...
[23:56] <Elladan> ActionParsnip, that might be true, but the installer both requires and seems to have no option for it...
[23:57] <Elladan> ActionParsnip, hibernate is not really something I care about, in any case.
[23:58] <juanlas> hi all, I just installed 12.10 desktop on VMware player in Win7 and it's kind of sluggish. I've got 2 cores and 4gb of RAM available for the VM. any ideas why it might be sluggish?
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> Elladan: I don't use encryptfs, I think it causes too many headaches. If you don't use hibernate then rock the party :)
[23:58] <Elladan> ActionParsnip, O
[23:58] <psusi> ActionParsnip, nope, that didn't do it
[23:58] <mr-rich> Has anyone here migrated from Evolution 3.2.x to Thunderbird?
[23:58] <Elladan> ActionParsnip, I'm using dm-crypt not that stacked fs thing.
[23:58] <IOmegaZ> anyone know hoe to install xgl?
[23:59] <mr-rich> juanlas: try using Virtualbox from Oracle ...
[23:59] <IOmegaZ> anyone know hoe to install xgl?
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> psusi: ok, remove the line from the file
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> !info xgl
[23:59] <Elladan> ActionParsnip, so I gave up on trying to make the partitioner sane and just hit the automatic partition button with the requisite options.  It seems to have decided to create LVM on top of dm-crypt with swap on top of LVM.