[12:15] <AWOSDev> Ace2016 ogm = pale yellow.  mkv = I have no clue what it is...question mark
[12:15] <AWOSDev> ?
[12:15] <cpk1> Alarm: probably because I dont think its an actual file...
[12:15] <Alarm> which means ?
[12:15] <AWOSDev> ogm = OGg Movie right?
[12:16] <HymnToLife> cpk1, if it is not a file, how come wr can cat it ?
[12:16] <HymnToLife> AWOSDev, OGg Media, rather
[12:16] <HymnToLife> you can put sound only in them
[12:16] <AWOSDev> HymnToLife ah.
[12:16] <AWOSDev> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2007-02-10 18:12 /proc/cpuinfo
[12:16] <AWOSDev> ^ real file!
[12:16] <cpk1> size of 0 and its also empty too AWOSDev
[12:17] <cpk1> if you file it
[12:17] <parkerw207> whats this new update were getting , its huge!
[12:17] <Ace2016> yellow it is, seems nice
[12:17] <amoun> Hi folks. I have just installed ubuntu and am not happy with the font rendering. Monocrome is very rough and I don't want smoothing. Does the KDE environment have a 'better' clean font rendering method.
[12:19] <Sanne> amoun: you can turn off the smoothing altogether, or only for small sizes, it's in system settings.
[12:20] <Sanne> amoun: under appearance/fonts
[12:20] <amoun> Thanks Sanne. I've done that but the resulting font is very scrapy. Windows with no smoothing is clean and sharp. I was hoping Kubuntu or the KDE may be better
[12:21] <Sanne> amoun: if you like to have the ms fonts like arial, verdana etc you can install a package, let me get the name for you
[12:21] <amoun> bye the way I'm using windows to irc as I can't get my modem or wifi to work on my laptop yet
[12:21] <Sanne> amoun: it's package msttcorefonts
[12:22] <Sanne> amoun: I'm using arial for my interface font, without smoothing, and it's nice and crisp.
[12:23] <Sanne> amoun: can't help you with modem or wifi, sorry, I'm on dsl that just works.
[12:23] <amoun> thanks Sanne I'll try that. Before I go can you tell me how to download the kde environment anyway. I have a Kubuntu disk but it won't load. Are there pakes on the CD I can extract and transfer?
[12:23] <cpk1> Alarm: locate didnt work on proc because it isnt a real file system
[12:23] <amoun> no I'll leave the connection problems till later
[12:23] <Alarm> oh ok. thank u, got it no
[12:23] <Sanne> amoun: you can only use packages from the alternate cd. The desktop/live cd has a different package format.
[12:24] <cpk1> Alarm: proc is basically a snapshot of your running processeses
[12:24] <Alarm> got it
[12:24] <Alarm> my mistake
[12:24] <Alarm> and what happens if i want to search a file also in there ?
[12:24] <Alarm> whereis would work ?
[12:24] <amoun> ok I'll look for the msttcorefonts and see if that's better
[12:24] <Sanne> amoun: do you need help finding the alternate cd?
[12:25] <Sanne> amoun: wait
[12:25] <parkerw207> how do i get a program to show my system uses ?
[12:26] <parkerw207> like my processors and stuff?
[12:26] <cpk1> Alarm: dunno but you will most certainly need root
[12:26] <Sanne> amoun: the msttcorefonts package is only a script that downloads the ms fonts. They can't be included because of the license. I recommend for now to just copy over your ms fonts to /home/yourusername/.fonts
[12:26] <amoun> I can't download loads of megs
[12:26] <Alarm> okie :)
[12:27] <intelikey> parkerw207 ?
[12:27] <cpk1> parkerw207: there are all sorts of tools you can use, gkrellm is a good monitor, there are some good monitors you can get if you use super karamba, and kde has a system monitor as well
[12:27] <parkerw207> thanks :)
[12:27] <AWOSDev> parkerw207: from the command line, top
[12:27] <AWOSDev> type "top" into Konsole.
[12:28] <AWOSDev> shows processor usage, memory usage, swap, everything.
[12:28] <cpk1> AWOSDev: yes, but you look cooler if you use super karamba
[12:29] <AWOSDev> cpk1: no clue, I don't know what that is.
[12:29] <andrei> hello
[12:29] <intelikey> parkerw207 did they answer your question or were you looking for something like lshw ?
[12:29] <andrei> can you please help me with something
[12:29] <andrei> ?
[12:29] <Sanne> parkerw207: ksysguard is the gui kde performance monitor, it's also very nice.
[12:30] <smoze> what was the tool to manage disk partitions?
[12:30] <AWOSDev> Sanne, ah yes, forgot about that.
[12:30] <AWOSDev> smoze qtparted
[12:30] <andrei> if I use telnet to connect to a website
[12:30] <Sanne> AWOSDev: :)
[12:30] <AWOSDev> Sanne :)
[12:30] <intelikey> was also already mentioned
[12:30] <AWOSDev> andrei yes...?
[12:30] <amoun> just got the font thing and noticed I've been downloading Kubuntu total for the last hour :)
[12:30] <andrei> how do I make telnet read the commands
[12:30] <AWOSDev> amoun hehe
[12:30] <Sanne> amoun: wow!
[12:30] <andrei> automatically?
[12:30] <andrei> i mean...
[12:31] <AWOSDev> andrei type something like "GET /file/name"
[12:31] <smoze> the same one i used on live-cd?
[12:31] <parkerw207>  thanks
[12:31] <AWOSDev> smoze qtparted
[12:31] <andrei> yes,lets say GET / HTTP/1.0
[12:31] <andrei> but i have to type it
[12:31] <AWOSDev> andrei correct.
[12:31] <amoun> OK I have the fonts. Do you mean just by copying them they will be available ???
[12:31] <intelikey> andrei  don't have to  you could use "expect"
[12:32] <andrei> but how can i not type it
[12:32] <andrei> ?
[12:32] <andrei> expect?
[12:32] <AWOSDev> amoun yeah...copy them to your fonts directory.
[12:32] <intelikey> yes
[12:32] <andrei> can you give me an example?
[12:32] <Sanne> amoun: you can put ttf fonts to /home/user/.fonts, they will be available eventually (maybe alfter logout/login). If you installe dmsttcorefonts with apt-get/adept, you don't need to do anything else.
[12:32] <intelikey> you setup an expect script to do the read/answer part then turn it over to you...
[12:33] <andrei> i tried something like this :
[12:33] <premier> I just created a new user called "beryl" and I cant access things with 'su'
[12:33] <smoze> ok, thx
[12:33] <premier> it says, "communication with su failed"
[12:33] <andrei> telnet www.something. 80 < file.txt
[12:33] <andrei> and i wrote "GET / HTTP/1.0" in file.txt
[12:34] <AWOSDev> amoun copy them to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/<make a new folder name here.
[12:34] <AWOSDev> s/./>/
[12:34] <AWOSDev> !sudo | premier
[12:34] <ubotu> premier: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:34] <Sanne> amoun: if you copy the fonts manually, there's a command to update the font cache immediately to make them available right away. I just can't remember what it was.
[12:35] <AWOSDev> Sanne, amoun, you mean fc-cache?
[12:35] <Sanne> AWOSDev: I think yes
[12:35] <AWOSDev> run as sudo.
[12:35] <AWOSDev> sudo fc-cache
[12:35] <AWOSDev> Sanne :)
[12:35] <Sanne> AWOSDev: ah, yes, thanks :)
[12:35] <amoun> Ok will transfer the fonts and see what happens thanks all. Got to go offline from windows and reboot to do it all.
[12:35] <amoun> thanks again bye
[12:35] <Sanne> bye, good luck
[12:35] <poseidon> how can I insert special characters, like ~ over n, on a virtual terminal?
[12:35] <Sanne> ...too late...
[12:36] <ubuntu> hello is there a way to make a linux boot disk with USB support so I can boot to my USB hard drive?
[12:36] <intelikey> example expect script: expect "username"  ;send "name"  ;expect "password"  ;send "passwd" ;expect
[12:36] <AWOSDev> Sanne np :)
[12:36] <parkerw207> how do i get widgets for linux ?
[12:37] <AWOSDev> poseidon wow, I've been wondering the same thing.
[12:37] <AWOSDev> parkerw207...like for Kicker the taskbar?
[12:37] <poseidon> AWOSDev: let's start a pettition :b
[12:37] <intelikey> ooops forgot      "spawn telnet adderess "    then the expect part.
[12:37] <parkerw207> ermm like you get for macs ?
[12:37] <AWOSDev> poseindo :D
[12:38] <AWOSDev> parkerw207 sorry about that, I'm not familiar with Macintosh.
[12:38] <parkerw207> like waht vista has now
[12:38] <poseidon> maybe there's a way youo can change the keyboard layout?
[12:38] <parkerw207> little programs that sit on desktop
[12:38] <parkerw207> like that display the weather stuff :
[12:39] <AWOSDev> parkerw207 oh oh oh
[12:39] <AWOSDev> parkerw207 those are only available for Kicker, but...
[12:39] <AWOSDev> parkerw207 right-click Kicker, click Add Applet To Panel, and then there's your widgets
[12:40] <AWOSDev> there is a Kweather
[12:40] <parkerw207> whats kicker ?
[12:40] <parkerw207> i dont think i have it
[12:40] <AWOSDev> and various other little thingies like that
[12:40] <poseidon> parkerw207: it's the taskbar-thing
[12:40] <AWOSDev> parkerw207 kicker is your taskbar
[12:40] <AWOSDev> I think you have it :)
[12:40] <parkerw207> ooo i am dunno :S
[12:42] <premier> Im having trouble with su
[12:42] <parkerw207> how do i get my takbard back !
[12:42] <parkerw207> it just dissapeared :S
[12:42] <premier> I created a new user, and It cant do things through su or sudo. I just added it to the group sudo, but that doesnt fix it
[12:43] <Sanne> parkerw207: superkaramba may also what you are looking for, it's in universe repositories which you may have to enable first. I never used superkaramba myself, though.
[12:43] <parkerw207> i got it back lol
[12:43] <intelikey> no it's admin  not sudo  group
[12:43] <intelikey> premier
[12:43] <premier> what is superkaramba?
[12:43] <premier> thanks, intelikey
[12:43] <parkerw207> yeah ?
[12:44] <lancelot_br> hello guys... im trying to install Kubuntu 6.06 64-Bit, but it crashes on installation (reading mirror) part...? anything to do ??
[12:44] <intelikey> well by default,  root jr.  == anyone in group admin
[12:44] <Sanne> premier: you can read info here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/kde/superkaramba
[12:45] <lancelot_br> anyone could help me?
[12:45] <intelikey> andrei did you get anywhere with "expect" yet ?
[12:46] <_6StringKng_> caould someone help me?
[12:46] <Sanne> lancelot_br: I would to, in this order: 1. check cd integrity (option in boot menu), 2. check RAM (also on boot menu), 3. download the alternate text based installer cd and try that.
[12:46] <intelikey> !help
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[12:46] <_6StringKng_> a friend of mine is having trouble with the NVIDIA Drivers
[12:46] <intelikey> !ask
[12:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:46] <_6StringKng_> for a 7600GT
[12:46] <_6StringKng_> PCI-e x16
[12:46] <intelikey> !ati | _6StringKng_
[12:46] <ubotu> _6StringKng_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:47] <lancelot_br> sanne, i have already installed kubuntu today here.. but i need to reinstall it.. and after 1st installation.. it didnt work anymore =
[12:47] <Sanne> lancelot_br: oh... so it worked with this same cd before?
[12:47] <lancelot_br> Sanne ,yes the same one
[12:48] <AWOSDev> Bye!
[12:48] <amoun> Hi Sanne Excuse  my idiocy. I didn't pay attention well enough. Where is the font folder I can transfer to. The one I found in etc. doesn't allow write to  : )
[12:48] <lancelot_br>  i`ve already tryied manual partition, automatic partition.. tried to fdisk /mbr, remove paritions using fdisk...
[12:49] <Sanne> lancelot_br: those things drive one crazy, dont they? ;) So, what could that be? Maybe CD gone bad somehow? Don't think so, but make the test. And also the memory test, just to be sure (let it run for some hours).
[12:49] <AWOSDev> amoun /usr/share/fonts/truetype/<create folder here>
[12:49] <Sanne> amoun: you can also use the kde font installer, forgot to mention that
[12:50] <lancelot_br> yeah.. this make me go crazy here LOL ... i`m using now Kubuntu livecd... its working pretty weel
[12:50] <lancelot_br> well*
[12:50] <Sanne> amoun: there you can choose to install only for your user, or systemwide.
[12:50] <AWOSDev> amoun I usually make the folder name based on what it is...like when I copied some fonts from Windows XP I made folder /usr/share/fonts/truetype/xp-fonts
[12:50] <lancelot_br> so, i dont think there`s something wrong =/
[12:50] <lancelot_br> but it crashes..
[12:50] <AWOSDev> amoun also realise after you copy that you have to exit any applications you wish to use with the new fonts, and restart the programs.
[12:50] <amoun> thanks both bye again - same with ubuntu I hope
[12:50] <Sanne> amoun: AWOSDev's methos would install them system wide.
[12:50] <AWOSDev> bye amoun!
[12:51] <AWOSDev> Sanne, yeah :)
[12:51] <Sanne> amoun: the kde installer is in system settings
[12:51] <AWOSDev> lancelot_br specific error message?
[12:51] <patrick_> hello
[12:51] <lancelot_br> AWOSDev: just a minute... i will check it
[12:51] <AWOSDev> sorry I must leave....goodbye!
[12:51] <Sanne> amoun: if you install manually system wide, you need to do all with sudo.
[12:51] <amoun> bye
[12:51] <AWOSDev> lancelot_br altight
[12:51] <Sanne> bye AWOSDev
[12:52] <AWOSDev> s/altight/alright/
[12:52] <AWOSDev> bye Sanne!
[12:52] <Dante123> 	Hi all! I would like to reinstall Ubuntu on a partition on my HD.....however........I want to make sure that I do not mess up the other OS on there.....(Windoze) as this computer belongs to the school where I teach......how do I go about reinstalling Ubuntu....and still leave the Grub setup as is......any suggestions or tips are appreciated....thanks.
[12:52] <Dante123> I should add that Windoze is on a separate partition....but boots first on grub
[12:53] <AWOSDev> Dante123 may I ask a question?
[12:53] <AWOSDev> Dante123 how did you get the font to italicise in your question!?
[12:53] <lancelot_br> AWOSDev: can i send by PVT to you
[12:53] <lancelot_br> ?
[12:53] <AWOSDev> lancelot_br sure.
[12:53] <AWOSDev> but I must be going soon.
[12:53] <lancelot_br> AWOSDev: just take little seconds
[12:53] <lancelot_br> =)
[12:53] <Sanne> lancelot_br: I also would like to know the error message
[12:54] <AWOSDev> lancelot_br okay :)
[12:54] <Sanne> lancelot_br: you can paste to paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:54] <Dante123> I don't know...I just copy pasted it
[12:54] <AWOSDev> Dante123 hehe okay :D
[12:54] <lancelot_br> just a minute.. i must register to send PVT msgs
[12:54] <Dante123> i posted same question in ubuntu room
[12:54] <Sanne> lancelot_br: just use the pastebin
[12:55] <Dante123> any suggestions on my question?
[12:55] <AWOSDev> Dante123 and irt your question.  just install Ubuntu again it should work.
[12:55] <AWOSDev> that's what I did when I broke it, it left GRUB alone
[12:55] <Dante123> will it alter the grub?
[12:55] <AWOSDev> at least I think it did
[12:55] <AWOSDev> not too sure...that was long time ago
[12:55] <Dante123> okay....thanks.
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[12:57] <lancelot_rw> AWOSDev: Sanne: both received error msgs (PVT) ?
[12:57] <AWOSDev> lancelot_rw yes
[12:57] <AWOSDev> that's WAYYYYYYYYYY out of my league :)
[12:57] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: yes, but if you had used the pastebin, others could have a look also and maybe help. I don't know what's wrong, sorry.
[12:58] <lancelot_rw> pastebin ?
[12:58] <lancelot_rw> sorry, too may time no using linux LOL
[12:58] <AWOSDev> !paste | lancelot_rw
[12:58] <ubotu> lancelot_rw: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[12:58] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: as I said, paste.ubuntu-nl.org, there you can paste text and send us the url.
[12:58] <AWOSDev> bye!
[01:00] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: PasteBin > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5146/
[01:01] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: ah, much better, thanks :)
[01:01] <lancelot_rw> =)
[01:01] <lancelot_rw> i need to install KUBUNTU.. LOL.. i like it ?-)
[01:02] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: all I see is that it's a python script error and concerning ubiquity. I'm looking up what it's supposed to do.
[01:03] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: thanks.. i`ll try to figure out a solution at google
[01:03] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: wait
[01:03] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: if you find something, help me too
[01:03] <lancelot_rw> =)
[01:03] <mwerner> hi. does somebody know how to solve drdsl-freezes?
[01:03] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: it seems it's for the live cd installer, so I really recommend trying the alternate cd. Look here, first entry, for ubiquity: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=ubiquity&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all
[01:05] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: i copied this cd from a friend... he has the original one (shipped to him)...
[01:05] <lancelot_rw> im going crazy with this.. because it already installed and runned ok today..
[01:05] <lancelot_rw> now this is not working =/
[01:06] <lancelot_rw> and i dont have another blank CD here
[01:06] <fernando> someone is using beryl here???
[01:06] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: still... lot of people who had problems with live, could install using alternate cd with text based installer.
[01:06] <lancelot_rw> to burn another one
[01:06] <lancelot_rw> i think this live CD has a menu to select text install, am i right ?
[01:06] <fernando> anyone is using Beryl with Nvidia graphic car????
[01:07] <slyfox> what plugin do I need to play divx video ?
[01:07] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: never heard about this option.
[01:07] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: well,.. this option can be from another linux distro i tryied to install today..
[01:07] <lancelot_rw> but, anyway... i`ll try again
[01:07] <lancelot_rw> let me start installation
[01:08] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: I think so. All I heard is that live is graphical, alternate is text based.
[01:08] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: ok
[01:08] <fernando> users from beryl???
[01:08] <cpk1> i think the dvd has gui and text based
[01:08] <lancelot_rw> i`ll try it... if i cant install.. monday I will buy empty CDs
[01:09] <fernando> what is you problem lancelot??
[01:09] <Sanne> fernando: lancelot_rw can't install from live cd: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5146/
[01:10] <fernando> but are you sure that is possible to do that??
[01:10] <fernando> normally you need an alternate CD
[01:10] <lancelot_rw> fernando: yes, it is possible
[01:10] <lancelot_rw> fernando: i've already installed this today...
[01:11] <fernando> lancelot: you did it.. and what is the problem??
[01:11] <Sanne> fernando: of yourse you can install from the live cd... *mostly* it works, but not always...
[01:11] <lancelot_rw> fernando:  but needed to re-install... after 1st install.. didnt installed anymore
[01:12] <fernando> Sanne: yes, you "can", but you the mosly time doesnt work really
[01:12] <Sanne> fernando: heh... I never tried it myself, I also use the alternate cd.
[01:13] <Sanne> fernando: s/also/always
[01:13] <frood> I'm trying to compile some drivers for a Lexmark multifunction printer/scanner and when I run the ./configure script i get an error saying "No compiler found". I checked Adept and I have GCC installed. What gives? Is there a system variable for the compiler location I need to change or something?
[01:14] <fernando> frood: normally you need to have install "g++" package
[01:14] <Sanne> frood: also install build-essential
[01:15] <lancelot_rw> it is installing... lets try it.. :-)
[01:15] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: good luck :)
[01:15] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: thanks
[01:15] <frood> okey.
[01:15] <lancelot_rw> i have ubuntu 32-bit CDs... (shipped to me) .. is there a way to change it later to 64-bit (stupid question, but anyways...)
[01:16] <MarcoPau> in kaffein I only get Netscape plugin viewer as an entry for Settings -> Player engine
[01:16] <MarcoPau> even thou mplayer, kmplayer, xine and stuff are installed. what am I supposed to do in order to pick either mplayer or xine as engines?
[01:16] <frood> Does it matter which version of G++ I install? I've got 3.4 - 4.0
[01:16] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: no, don't think you can convert 32bit to 64bit install - it would be like a complete reinstall anyway.
[01:17] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: ok. (i hate when I dont have empty CDs at home)
[01:17] <fernando> frood: It matter!!, install the package "g++" even if you have some highest version
[01:17] <frood> okey
[01:17] <Sanne> frood: install build-essential first, you should get the default g++ with that package
[01:17] <lancelot_rw> if I have one... i could download kubuntu and burn it again..
[01:17] <lancelot_rw> fernando: where're you from ?
[01:18] <fernando> lancelot: I have the 64 bit version, but I have many problem with plugin for firefox
[01:18] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: if you burn a new cd, burn it slowly (-> less errors)
[01:18] <fernando> lancelot: I live in germany, but I come from chile
[01:19] <lancelot_rw> fernando: ok, i though you were brazilian (Fernando, ordinary name in brazil)
[01:19] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: ok, i'll pray now to work!
[01:19] <lancelot_rw> my kubuntu is not Plug and Play ... it is Plug and PRAY!
[01:19] <frood> Okey. Installing Build Essentials.
[01:20] <lancelot_rw> *bad joke* LOL
[01:20] <fernando> jajaja
[01:20] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: I'm holding my breath ;)
[01:20] <fernando> lancelot: that was good jaja
[01:20] <lancelot_rw> =)
[01:20] <fernando> anyone is using here Beryl???
[01:21] <lancelot_rw> "Plug and Pray" ... thats nice isnt it? LOL
[01:21] <Sanne> frood: after that, try configure again, you should have at least your compiler now.
[01:21] <lancelot_rw> well.. i think now its installing properly
[01:21] <lancelot_rw> ...configuring hardware...
[01:21] <lancelot_rw> ..detecting devices..
[01:22] <fernando> lancelot: with graphic video car do you have??
[01:22] <lancelot_rw> i think the part of "Scanning mirros" have already finished... (the part that was erros)
[01:22] <fernando> lancelot: wich..
[01:22] <lancelot_rw> fernando: NVidia GForce MX-440 64MB
[01:23] <lancelot_rw> more than 3 minutes... configuring hardware 96% .. ARGH!!
[01:24] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: try the alternate
[01:24] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: i dont have one empty CD
[01:25] <lancelot_rw> [23:17]  *** Mythbusters  <<<< I would need them!!
[01:25] <lancelot_rw> LOL
[01:25] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: I know. Try it another day. It's healthier ;)
[01:25] <fernando> lancelot: I agree with Sanne
[01:25] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: i'll try it later... but today i need to find something to do... LOL
[01:26] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: hmmm, there's also net install, is there not? I dunno how it works, though, if you still need a cd.
[01:26] <andrei> intelikey , thank you very much for helping me
[01:26] <slyfox> what command or plugin do I need to isntall to play video ?
[01:26] <vellu> help me out, i cant get taskbar to appear
[01:26] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: i like so much net installers... if i could find a way to boot via live cd and install using net install..
[01:27] <fernando> slyfox: look this -> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/news.html
[01:27] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: let's look in the wiki
[01:29] <Sanne> slyfox: vlc player should play lots of formats, you can install it via apt/adept/what you prefer.
[01:30] <MarcoPau> in kaffeine the subtitles in an avi movie won't be italics when there are <i> and </i> flags... I tried changing fonts but that didn't really help
[01:30] <Sanne> slyfox: install package wxvlc from universe, it's the gui frontend and also installs vlc engine.
[01:32] <Nontitle> what does vlc stand for again?
[01:32] <crazy_penguin> Good night all!
[01:32] <Nontitle> bye
[01:34] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: seems pretty complicated, but maybe it helps you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[01:37] <lancelot_rw> sorry ... my system crashed
[01:37] <lancelot_rw> lets try install it again..
[01:37] <lancelot_rw> lol
[01:38] <Whopper> :P
[01:38] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: seems pretty complicated, but maybe it helps you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[01:39] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: i'll check it
[01:41] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: i think this is just for local network installation... not for internet installation
[01:42] <Sanne> oh
[01:46] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: i'll let it installing here.. i think using live CD and installing at the same time is crashing it...
[01:46] <lancelot_rw> brb
[01:48] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: ok
[01:55] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: =)
[01:55] <lancelot_rw> Now its installed on my harddisk!
[01:56] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: !! coolo !!
[01:56] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: now. its the hardest part.. conf. all the system
[01:57] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: first thing: which repository should I add to apt-get source.list to get software.. like, xmms, opera, gaim....
[01:57] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: yup, that can take awhile. But it's also nice, like make the system your own, sorta :)
[01:58] <coreymon77> lancelot_rw: i can give you my sources.list
[01:58] <coreymon77> its pretty complete
[01:58] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: I just activate all... there's a sources.list generator somewhere, sec
[01:58] <lancelot_rw> coreymon77: great.. send it by email or PVT
[01:59] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:59] <coreymon77> pastebin
[01:59] <[Marvin] > hm, this is odd. I just started my computer for the first time in a couple of days - and for some reason the entire right half of the KDE panel is blank and everything's squeezed together in the left side.
[01:59] <coreymon77> ill kist put in on pastebin
[01:59] <lancelot_rw> coreymon77: ok.
[01:59] <lancelot_rw> Kubuntu 6.06 is the Dapper one, right?
[02:00] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: yes, it's Dapper
[02:00] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: for opera, you need to enable some commercial repository. Dunno if it's also generated by easysource.
[02:01] <coreymon77> lancelot_rw: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5154/
[02:01] <coreymon77> wait a sec
[02:01] <coreymon77> you want to use dapper?
[02:01] <lancelot_rw> yes
[02:01] <coreymon77> oh
[02:01] <lancelot_rw> i use dapper 64-bit
[02:01] <coreymon77> cause this is for edgy
[02:01] <coreymon77> why not use dapper
[02:01] <coreymon77> i mean
[02:01] <lancelot_rw> can i just change the name of lines from dapper to edgy ?
[02:01] <coreymon77> why not use edgy
[02:01] <coreymon77> you could do that
[02:01] <coreymon77> but why not upgrade?
[02:01] <lancelot_rw> coreymon77: i get this CD with a friend.. just to test... and liked it
[02:01] <lancelot_rw> :-P
[02:02] <coreymon77> you like dapper
[02:02] <coreymon77> well edgy is<PHONE_NUMBER>0000x better
[02:02] <coreymon77> atleast
[02:02] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: here's mine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5129/
[02:02] <coreymon77> thats my opinion
[02:02] <coreymon77> once again
[02:02] <coreymon77> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5154/
[02:02] <jhutchins> [Marvin] : Sounds like you have something odd running in the panel.
[02:02] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: this is sources.list from dapper ?
[02:02] <coreymon77> i love edgy
[02:02] <[Marvin] > jhutchins: hmm, dunno...
[02:03] <coreymon77> but if you wanna stay with dapper
[02:03] <coreymon77> okay
[02:03] <jhutchins> coreymon77: dapper lts is a bit more stable, particulary for 64.
[02:03] <coreymon77> oh
[02:03] <coreymon77> i havent had any problems
[02:03] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: yes, mine, but customized and cleaned. You would need to take out the cd line, as you have the live cd and can't use this as repository.
[02:03] <jhutchins> [Marvin] : See if you can right click the black part, or find a handle for it.
[02:03] <coreymon77> but i have x86
[02:03] <lancelot_rw> i use Dapper 64-Bit .. Atlhon 3000+
[02:03] <[Marvin] > I've tried closing all the applets and then starting them again. Now the clock, quicklaunch etc. are all over the place...still squeezed, though.
[02:03] <coreymon77> lancelot_rw: you can use mine and then just change all the edgys to dappers
[02:04] <jhutchins> coreymon77: We've seen some trouble reported with edgy, particulary for upgrades but clean installs too.
[02:04] <lancelot_rw> ok Sanne .. i'll update my sources.list
[02:04] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: oh, and you should also change the //de to your country code
[02:04] <jhutchins> (Although, come to think of that, it was a kde upgrade.)
[02:04] <[Marvin] > Hm, how do I move the clock, quicklaunch and the pager? pressing Alt doesn't do anything...
[02:04] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: make a backup first and don't shoot me if it fails ;)
[02:04] <coreymon77> mine are all coms
[02:05] <coreymon77> mine is the default sources,list
[02:05] <coreymon77> plus the repos for the new kde
[02:05] <jhutchins> [Marvin] : If you hover over the separator, you'll see a little triangular spot at the top.  That's the "Handle", click it and you get a menu.
[02:05] <lancelot_rw> Sanne: back up ? welll sorry.. i didnt do that... LOL
[02:05] <lancelot_rw> but is ok.. :>
[02:05] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: also look at coreymon77 's and compare.
[02:05] <coreymon77> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/5154/
[02:06] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: I would have the original one still, if you should need that (*I* did back up first njah njah)
[02:06] <coreymon77> but remember
[02:06] <coreymon77> if you want to use mine and stick with dapper
[02:06] <coreymon77> you have to change everywhere is says edgy to dapper
[02:06] <lancelot_rw> ppl... is there a way to install packages (.deb) including all the dependencies automatically...
[02:07] <coreymon77> thats what apt does
[02:07] <[Marvin] > jhutchins: I see no seperator anywhere...
[02:07] <lancelot_rw> ok coreymon77
[02:07] <coreymon77> btw Sanne, your sources.list file backsup automatically
[02:07] <lancelot_rw> well.. didnt find opera browser using atp-get
[02:07] <coreymon77> let me check
[02:07] <[Marvin] > jhutchins: oh, sorry....I disabled them.
[02:07] <Sanne> coreymon77: well, depends if you configured your editor to do that ;)
[02:07] <jhutchins> [Marvin] : Should highlight if you put your mouse over the applet, ie hover over the clock.
[02:07] <jhutchins> Heh.
[02:07] <jhutchins> Well then.
[02:08] <fernando> lancelot: right click on the debian package and install
[02:08] <[Marvin] > jhutchins: enabling them did the trick, yaddi yaddi, thanks for the help :o)
[02:08] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: opera is in a commercial repository
[02:08] <Jonty>  /j #sqlobject'
[02:08] <Jonty>  /j #sqlobject
[02:08] <fernando> any one is using beryl???
[02:08] <Jonty> arlg, sorry
[02:09] <lancelot_rw> anyone know a good 64-bit browser ??
[02:09] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: details here: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/08/introducing-the-dapper-commercial-repository/
[02:09] <fernando> lancelot: firefox
[02:09] <CrakeHunter> hello, how do i exit from xserver - and enter text mode?
[02:09] <lancelot_rw> fernando: firefox is 32bit
[02:09] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: firefox from the repositories is 64bit
[02:09] <lancelot_rw> CrakeHunter: Crtl+alt+F2 .. F3 ...
[02:10] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: you won't be able to use some plugins with that one, though.
[02:10] <fernando> lancelot: did you installed? you will se that is a 64bit version
[02:11] <lancelot_rw> fernando: i assume that firefox is 32 bit 'cause on the web site there's no 64 version... but i'll install it over apt-get
[02:11] <lancelot_rw> =)
[02:11] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: opera is only available as 32 bit, so no install throught apt-get for you.
[02:11] <lancelot_rw> fernando: Sanne told me that this repository has a 64 bit version
[02:11] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: the ubuntu compiled firefox is 64 bit for you. Mozilla.org only has 32bit versions for download.
[02:11] <fernando> lancelot: the web site has nothing to do with a broswer..
[02:12] <fernando> lancelot: install firefox.. and you wil see that is 64 bit
[02:12] <fernando> lancelot: but I will not recomend if you visit website such as youtube
[02:12] <fernando> lancelot: you will not able to see videos
[02:13] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: try to look for software first in the ubuntu repositories and on packages.ubuntu.com if it's available.
[02:13] <coreymon77> here
[02:13] <coreymon77> deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free
[02:13] <coreymon77> thats the repo
[02:14] <sparr> i have a sound blaster, emu10k1 chip, that isnt working in ubuntu.  help?
[02:14] <lancelot_rw> brb guys... i'll change to XChat
[02:14] <lancelot_rw> =)
[02:14] <Sanne> coreymon77: no 64 bit version there
[02:14] <coreymon77> gah
[02:14] <dct391> does anyone know where all the links went
[02:14] <coreymon77> you people make it so complicated
[02:15] <Sanne> ?
[02:15] <dct391> the club autos
[02:15] <Sanne> lanclot_rw asked for a 64 bit browser
[02:15] <coreymon77> everything is no 64 bit version
[02:16] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: if you want to use all those fancy plugins (java, flash...) you would need to install the 32 bit firefox, as those plugins have no 64 bit version.
[02:16] <lancelot_rw> Sanne, to install 32 bit version i should download it from website right?
[02:17] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: wait. there's a howto in the wiki, I'll find it for you
[02:17] <lancelot_rw> my repositories (list u sent me) are only for 64-bit software, right?
[02:17] <coreymon77> umm
[02:17] <coreymon77> i dont think there is an opera 64 bit verseion
[02:18] <fernando> lancelot: the repositories that come with kubuntu 64, are for software 64 bits
[02:18] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: for a 64 bit installation, you will get the 64 bit software automatically. There are some 32 bit compatibility packages if you want to run 32 bit programs.
[02:18] <fernando> lancelot: the are precompile software for the kubuntu group
[02:18] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava
[02:19] <lancelot_rw> Sanne, the repositories you sent me are 64 or 32 bit ones?
[02:19] <coreymon77> guys
[02:20] <coreymon77> look at the convo me and that dct391 guy just had
[02:20] <coreymon77> [20:16]  <dct391> hey cory do you know where all the autos went from the site
[02:20] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: I already answered!
[02:20] <coreymon77> [20:16]  <coreymon77> the what?
[02:20] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: for a 64 bit installation, you will get the 64 bit software automatically. There are some 32 bit compatibility packages if you want to run 32 bit programs.
[02:20] <coreymon77> [20:16]  <dct391> the auto links to help club pogo members get badges
[02:20] <coreymon77> [20:17]  <coreymon77> do you know which channel this is
[02:20] <coreymon77> [20:17]  <dct391> no
[02:20] <coreymon77> [20:17]  <dct391> why?
[02:20] <coreymon77> [20:18]  <coreymon77> this is the kubuntu linux channel that you are on
[02:20] <coreymon77> [20:18]  <coreymon77> not the club pogo channel
[02:20] <coreymon77> [20:19]  <dct391> oh sorry
[02:20] <coreymon77> auto links that help club pogo members get bages?
[02:20] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: youmight also find help and info here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=191205
[02:21] <coreymon77> what kind of bs is that
[02:24] <sparr> how can i make ubuntu re-do whatever magic it does at install time to configure my sound card?
[02:25] <Kr4t05> http://pastebin.ca/349785  <- Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong, here?
[02:28] <mackinac> are there any SFTP or SSH server apps with a GUI and easy to set up ?
[02:29] <Sanne> Kr4t05: looks more like a bug in the package to me
[02:29] <mackinac> (i miss filezilla server)
[02:34] <lancelot_rw> Sanne, i'm reading Firefox + flash + java how-to.. and there's a command: gksudo
[02:34] <lancelot_rw> but this doesnt works..
[02:34] <lancelot_rw> should I use only "sudo" instead of "gksudo"
[02:34] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: oh sorry, should have mentioned it. It's for gnome, in kde use kdesu.
[02:35] <zach> How do I write to a USB stick
[02:35] <lancelot_rw> ok, thanks
[02:35] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: don't use sudo for graphical apps
[02:36] <zach> How do I write to a USB stick
[02:36] <lancelot_rw> "kdesu" didnt work
[02:36] <lancelot_rw> but sudo works pretty well :>
[02:36] <zach> How do I write to a USB stick
[02:37] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: sudo shouldn't be used for graphical apps. What's the error when you try kdesu?
[02:38] <lancelot_rw> well.. my system is a little bit crazy... now it worked... LOL
[02:38] <zach> !mayonnaise
[02:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mayonnaise - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:39] <zach> Help me
[02:39] <Kr4t05> zach: Most USB flash drives work without any extra software.
[02:39] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: ah, I had this also. Sometimes it didn't work. It may have to do with some default entries in xorg.conf for devices that are not present, for me it was those wacom thingies.
[02:39] <Kr4t05> Just insert into a USB port and it should mount automatically.
[02:39] <lancelot_rw> yeah.. i dont know what happend here.. but now its ok
[02:39] <lancelot_rw> :>
[02:40] <zach> Kr4t05: It will read but not write
[02:40] <Sanne> mayonnaise? Lol!
[02:40] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: just keep it in mind for later ;)
[02:40] <Kr4t05> zach: Then it's probably formatted with NTFS. Copy all the files over and reformat it as FAT32.
[02:40] <zach> How do you do that
[02:40] <CrakeHunter> hello, i am trying to install nvidia drivers: i am missing the "libc header files" the installer says. what should i do?
[02:41] <sparr> how does the ubuntu installer configure sound cards?
[02:41] <lancelot_rw> Sanne, i'll do it :-)
[02:41] <Sanne> :)
[02:41] <zach> Kr4t05: how do you do that
[02:41] <Kr4t05> -.-
[02:41] <Kr4t05> zach: Do you have all the files copied from the flash drive?
[02:42] <zach> Kr4t05: yes
[02:42] <Sanne> lancelot_rw: well, unfortunately I gotta go. I wish you much success and fun with Kubuntu and your configuring. :)
[02:42] <lancelot_rw> Sanne, many thanks... see ya later.. ;-)
[02:42] <Sanne> you're welcome, lancelot_rw. Bye all.
[02:43] <lancelot_rw> bye
[02:43] <zach> Kr4t05: huh?
[02:44] <Kr4t05> zach: If so, open a terminal window and type "ls /dev/sda1"
[02:45] <Kr4t05> Let me know what it says.
[02:45] <zach> Kr4t05: no such file or directory
[02:45] <sparr> How can I find out what modules and module parameters a livecd is using the make my sound work?  So that I can duplicate those options on my main OS.
[02:45] <Kr4t05> zach: The flash drive is connected?
[02:46] <Kr4t05> zach: Try it again, only change it to "/dev/sdb1"
[02:46] <intelikey> sparr lsmod
[02:46] <sparr> intelikey: and parameters?
[02:46] <Kr4t05> Better yet...
[02:46] <intelikey> sparr
[02:47] <Kr4t05> zach: Wait... I just thought of a better way.
[02:47] <intelikey> shouldn't need any
[02:47] <sparr> intelikey: thanks.  got an answer without "should" in it?
[02:47] <zach> h
[02:47] <Kr4t05> zach: "mount -l"
[02:47] <MotorCityMadMan> is kde 3.5.6 compatible with dapper ?
[02:47] <intelikey> sparr should i have ?
[02:47] <Kr4t05> zach: Sorry... "mount -l | grep usbdisk"
[02:47] <zach> Kr4t05: mount -"?"?
 The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:49] <Kr4t05> kristjan_: That was my bad.
[02:49] <zach> Kr4t05: what
[02:49] <Kr4t05> clear
[02:49] <zach> Kr4t05 clear what
[02:50] <Kr4t05> [20:47]  <Kr4t05> zach: Sorry... "mount -l | grep usbdisk"
[02:50] <Kr4t05> Type that command.
[02:51] <zach> Kr4t05: I did
[02:51] <Kr4t05> zach: Then, why did it print all of that other stuff.
[02:52] <toko123> can I upgrade from 5.10 to 6.10?
[02:52] <zach> Kr4t05: that was mount -l
[02:52] <Kr4t05> zach: It should have printed only one line... Did you use a pipe (|)? It's \+Shift.
[02:52] <zach> yes
[02:52] <Kr4t05> Hrm...
[02:52] <intelikey> toko123 you can.   but it's not supported.
[02:52] <Kr4t05> Well, even with that, it looks like the flash drive isn't being mounted.
[02:53] <toko123> is 5.10 supported?
[02:53] <Kr4t05> zach: Try reconnecting the flash drive and do the command again. Only make sure it's "mount -l | grep usbdisk"
[02:53] <intelikey> toko123 if you are intent on trying it may i sujest you uninstall everything possable first.  makes do-able
[02:53] <Kr4t05> zach: I can't help you much longer, though.
[02:53] <intelikey> toko123 yeah for another month or two
[02:53] <toko123> thanks
[02:54] <ernie> Kr4t05 - you can also do a quick check with lsusb to see what USB thingys are dangling off the box
[02:54] <Kr4t05> ernie: Heh, forgot about that handy command. Thanks. :P
[02:54] <intelikey> toko123 upgrading from 5.10 to 6.6 is supported  and pretty safe
[02:55] <Kr4t05> zach: Hate to bail out on you, but I have to go.
[02:55] <toko123> what command to use or procedure
[02:55] <ernie> Kr4t05 - Glad I know something I can help with :)
[02:55] <zach> OK
[02:55] <Kr4t05> zach: I sure someone else in here might be able to help you figure this out.
[02:56] <fernando> anyone here is using BERYL ???
[02:56] <intelikey> toko123 you edit /etc/apt/sources.list   change all "breezy" to "dapper"  save it,  issue; 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:58] <toko123> intelikey, thanks, i can handle that
[02:58] <intelikey> toko123 and lay your rosery on the keyboard and hang your st. christofer's meddel on the monitor and wait to see if it takes....
[02:58] <MotorCityMadMan> is it safe to upgrade from kde 3.5.2 to 3.5.6 in dapper ?
[02:58] <intelikey> :)
[02:59] <toko123> well I have another maching went from ubuntu 6.06{didn't compile a ton of stuff} to 6.6 works fine
[03:00] <ubuntu_> hi when you download a program, wher does it go, cause it's not in the kubuntu menu ??
[03:00] <intelikey> toko123 i only added the last because it's not fool proff, and there is no guerantee that it will finish without errors  but it generally goes pretty somthly.
[03:01] <intelikey> smoothly   even
[03:01] <toko123> intelikey, thanks again
[03:01] <intelikey> np
[03:02] <intelikey> ubuntu_  "when you download a program"  please clearify that for us ?
[03:03] <_6StringKng_> need help installing ati drivers, forgot the url of the site I was looking on the last time
[03:03] <intelikey> !ati
[03:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:04] <ubuntu_> i've downloaded from the adept manager, and it say's that it's installed but i dont know where it is
[03:05] <intelikey> ubuntu_ ok.  what was it you installed?  cli apps dont show up in any menu normally.
[03:05] <ubuntu_> it 's a clock
[03:05] <intelikey> xclock ?
[03:05] <intelikey> clock ?
[03:06] <ubuntu_> yah
[03:06] <intelikey> which ?
[03:06] <ubuntu_> xclock
[03:06] <intelikey> you can start it by pressing   alt+f2  type in  xclock
[03:07] <intelikey> you can add it to the pannel with right click
[03:07] <intelikey> right click the pannel
[03:09] <intelikey> ubuntu_ ffr anything you install that doesn't show up in the kmenu  (or the debian menu if you have "menu" installed)   can usually be executed via the command line  in  alt+f2   or  konsole
[03:11] <Phlosten> allo all
[03:11] <intelikey> also of note,  the kmenu does not update instantly  things that are installed may not show up in the menu right away.     " kbuildsycoca "   will rebuild (update) the kmenu
[03:11] <ksnipa> I got a sis card installed (yes its shit), and anytime i run glxinfo my comp restarts any ideas on how I can fix that? and yes I do realize that my card wont be to run direct draw but the whole it resetting on me when i type glxinfo just bothers me
[03:13] <intelikey> !glx
[03:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <ubuntu_> intelikey: thanks, but it s oclock. When i type xclock theres a picture of a clock, and when i right click i dont have xclock it is running tight now in my upper left screen
[03:14] <ubuntu_> i'm almost there
[03:14] <intelikey> :)
[03:14] <intelikey> xclock != oclock    heh
[03:17] <intelikey> when i press  ctrl+alt+esc  i don't get the skull & crossbones
[03:18] <ubuntu_> Well there is a new clock in my bar on the left but i dont know if it's the one, and it's not in the menu
[03:19] <intelikey> it's probably the one
[03:19] <ubuntu_> yeah that's what i think
[03:19] <intelikey> cat /etc/sudoers
[03:19] <intelikey> ALL     ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD :ALL
[03:20] <intelikey> my sudo don't work.
[03:20] <Linux_Galore> !metabar
[03:20] <intelikey> oh wait yes it does
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about metabar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:20] <intelikey> it works for root
[03:21] <Linux_Galore> hmm cant seem ot find tghe metabar in konqueror
[03:21] <intelikey> metabar ?
[03:21] <Linux_Galore> doesnt seem to be a packafe for it either
[03:21] <Linux_Galore> package*
[03:21] <intelikey> whz dat ?
[03:22] <renewip> hi all
[03:22] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=53028
[03:22] <renewip> iam using Kubuntu 6.10
[03:22] <intelikey> metabar - Context sensitive sidebar plugin for Konqueror
[03:22] <intelikey> !info metabar
[03:22] <ubotu> Package metabar does not exist in edgy, edgy-seveas
[03:22] <intelikey> !info metabar dapper
[03:22] <ubotu> metabar: Context sensitive sidebar plugin for Konqueror. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 91 kB, installed size 372 kB
[03:22] <Linux_Galore> what a load of ***
[03:22] <intelikey> not in edgy
[03:23] <renewip> and I can't set envinronment vars after kde start
[03:23] <renewip> :-(
[03:23] <intelikey> renewip what do you need to set ?
[03:24] <renewip> I mean how to set automatically an env var
[03:24] <renewip> I want to set LD_PRELOAD var
[03:24] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: cant seem to find the sidebar either
[03:24] <intelikey> put in /etc/evnironment    or /etc/profile    depending on var and usage/need
[03:25] <justin1278> hello
[03:25] <Linux_Galore> hmm no shortcuts for sidebar
[03:25] <justin1278> I was wondering if somebody could help me with KBFX
[03:25] <intelikey> Linux_Galore isn't it  view > something > sidebar  ?
[03:26] <justin1278> Can somebody help me with KBFX?
[03:26] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: not in any of the menu's
[03:27] <user_> hey does anyone know if ubuntu distro autodetects multiple drives?
[03:27] <user_> i.e. 3 sata drievs
[03:28] <intelikey> hmmm can't look it up for you Linux_Galore i don't even have kde installed
[03:28] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: aaah, press F9
[03:28] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: good old google
[03:28] <intelikey> user_ if it doesn't i'll be very surprised
[03:28] <justin1278> Can somebody help me with kbfx?
[03:29] <user_> really?  cause i love kde, but cant get the drives to get up and running, so if ubuntu will fix this i think i may have to switch
[03:29] <user_> :(
[03:29] <intelikey> user_ switch from what ?
[03:29] <user_> kubuntu to ubuntu
[03:30] <intelikey> user_ sorry chap.  that wont help a thing.
[03:30] <intelikey> kubuntu is ubuntu
[03:31] <user_> yahhhhhhhh i thought it was relatively the same, but more development, i.e, install drives, and drives work with fulll read write access and no permissions garbage
[03:31] <intelikey> *buntu is all one distro  just different default gui's
[03:31] <justin1278> Is there somebody who can please assist my with kbfx?
[03:31] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: add freespire 2.0 to the list
[03:32] <renewip> sorry, but my /etc/environment has LD_PRELOAD="/lib/mylib.a"
[03:32] <intelikey> user_ what exactly is the problem   if it's not too depressing to tell it...
[03:32] <user_> like i was trying to deal with this yesterday.... basically it got to the point of being mounted, and all that, but the god damn permissions wouldnt allow me to creat folders or copy onto the drives
[03:33] <renewip> anh my /etc/profile has export LD_PRELOAD="/lib/mylib.a"
[03:33] <renewip> but when I start KDE
[03:33] <renewip> run (Alt F2) echo $LD_PRELOAD > /t.txt
[03:33] <renewip> and...
[03:33] <renewip> bum ... my /t.txt is empty
[03:34] <intelikey> renewip you want that module loaded in xorg ?    add it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf  in the modules section
[03:34] <renewip> I can't know why
[03:34] <Linux_Galore> user_: if the drive is ntfs its not a permissions problem
[03:35] <user_> but i thought ntfs doesnt work with kubuntu
[03:35] <user_> only fat 32 does
[03:35] <user_> that has changed?
[03:36] <user_> i thought it was propritary format????
 run (Alt F2) echo $LD_PRELOAD > /t.txt  <<<  that's a good test.  but konsole should have the var set in it...
[03:36] <Linux_Galore> user_: you can red ntfs but not write
[03:36] <Linux_Galore> read*
[03:36] <intelikey> !ntfs
[03:36] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:36] <intelikey> !ntfs-3g
[03:36] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Installation instructions at http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710 (Dapper) and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009/ (Edgy)
[03:36] <intelikey> !fuse
[03:36] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:37] <Linux_Galore> well you cant write "safely"
[03:37] <intelikey> user_ anyway i suspect your drive was not ntfs ?
[03:37] <user_> naw, they are brand new, and i want them in ext3 format thats the thing
[03:38] <user_> i only have a windows partition for games
[03:38] <user_> other then that, i dont need ntfs
[03:38] <user_> my entire system is to be ext3, except the windows partition and fat32 swap area
[03:38] <intelikey> user_ and you partitioned and made file systems on these disks ?
[03:38] <Linux_Galore> user_: open konqueror as root  ie sudo konqueror   goto the sub directory were the disk/media is mounted and right click on the device icon/directory icon  and then properties  and just change the permissions
[03:39] <intelikey> *** sudo konqueror ***  not recomended
[03:39] <intelikey> kdesu konqueror
[03:39] <intelikey> !kdesu
[03:39] <ubotu> In KDE, use  kdesu  to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Do *not* use  sudo <GUI application> ; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[03:39] <user_> yah man, did allllllllllllll that, like the thing is they work, it was fine, i even ran those test code things outta terminal with the help of some of the guys here, and they wrote to the drives, but accessing them thru konquerer doesnt work
[03:39] <justin1278> Hello, can somebody please assist me with KBFX?
[03:40] <Linux_Galore> user_: you need to set it so read write is for everyone
[03:41] <intelikey> user_ let me see if i have this streight,  you say the drive/s work, mount ok, can read/write from konsole, but can't access from konqueror ?
[03:41] <user_> yes exactly, but i have no idea how to do that, and no one knew how when they were helping me out
[03:41] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: you manage it from within kcontrol
[03:41] <user_> :(
[03:41] <user_> yup thats the case
[03:41] <Linux_Galore> user_: trun konqueror under root,  root has no permissions restrictions
[03:41] <user_> cannot create files, nor drag and drop files onto the drives via konqueror
[03:41] <intelikey> user_ chmod 777 /mountpoint/
[03:42] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: How do
[03:42] <user_> how do you turn konqueror to root!?
[03:42] <user_> that would be excellent
[03:42] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: How do I use that?
[03:42] <intelikey> user_ wait
[03:42] <intelikey> user_ wait
[03:42] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: Sorry, I'm a noob at linux.
[03:42] <intelikey> user_ is the drive mounted ?
[03:43] <Linux_Galore> justin1278:  press alt F2  type kcontrol,  it in the look and feel section
[03:43] <user_> yah, they are mounted and fine, that was the purpose of that test code to see if they were mounted.  i ran the code as root and it worked just fine.  but via konqueror i cant
[03:43] <intelikey> user_ where ?
[03:43] <user_> i tried that chmod thing as well, didnt work before either
[03:43] <user_> and they are all mounted to media
[03:43] <intelikey> user_ i'm trying to help you here.
[03:43] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: Ok, now what>?
[03:44] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: look in the look and feel section there is a kbfx manager
[03:44] <intelikey> user_ /media  or /media/something ?
[03:44] <user_> 2 x 500GB drives, and 1X 360
[03:44] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: if it not there you havent installed it
[03:44] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: Ok, it is there.
[03:44] <user_>  /media/something is what they are under
[03:44] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: I have clicked on it and i'm in it now
[03:45] <intelikey> user_  sudo chmod 777 /media/*
[03:45] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: goto  kde-look.org  and get your themes
[03:45] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: I have downloaded the theme, it was in a .zip file
[03:45] <justin1278> Linux_Galore:
[03:45] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: then unpack it
[03:45] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: I extracted it
[03:46] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: no go into the kbfx manager and select the icon file you want from the theme folder
[03:46] <intelikey> now in normal konqueror you should be able to navigate to    /media/
[03:46] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: ok
[03:46] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: done
[03:46] <intelikey> click the folder the fs is mounted on and have full access
[03:47] <Linux_Galore> user_: or just type media:/
[03:47] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: I have clicked apply, but nothing happened.
[03:47] <intelikey> uesr_ is gone
[03:47] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: it wont
[03:47] <intelikey> and it's a good thing
[03:47] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: I see the preview, but its not my start menu icon...
[03:47] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: Ok then what now?
[03:47] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: have to reload it
[03:47] <intelikey> cause media:/ is not the same as /media/
[03:47] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: takes a few second to load
[03:48] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: Ok, I clicked reload and nothing happened.
[03:48] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: wait for it
[03:48] <intelikey> that's a phisical ext3 you should NOT be accessing through media:/
[03:48] <justin1278> ok
[03:48] <intelikey> in fact the mountpoint should not even be in /media/ for that matter
[03:48] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: Still nothing...
[03:49] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: shrug,  did you click on apply
[03:49] <justin1278> yes
[03:50] <user_> intelikey: hey sry, just got a call, its a friends bday... this is going to have to wait ANOTHER night.... frick
[03:50] <user_> lol
[03:50] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: have to understand I dont use kbfx anymore i use kickoff
[03:50] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: is kickoff better?
[03:50] <user_> i will try that code out tomorow though man, and most likely be back on here to let yu knoe if your around
[03:50] <intelikey> user_ np
[03:50] <intelikey> it's not code       it's a command.
[03:50] <user_> intelikey: thanks again, ttys
[03:51] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: for me it is, i found kbfx a bit flakky, have to be carefull though the .deb package over writes your normal menu setup
[03:52] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: ok, have any ideas what i can do to use KBFX?
[03:52] <sudoman> hi all
[03:52] <antibody> hey...I have /lib/modules/version/volatile
[03:52] <intelikey> sudo
[03:53] <antibody> I don't want nvidia.ko from volatile
[03:53] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: I found sometime you have to reload it twice,  make sure the icons are in the path next to each of the three
[03:53] <antibody> how can I keep it from loading from boot?
[03:53] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: also try clicking on the menu
[03:53] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: Still nothing..
[03:53] <intelikey> you could remove it.   it being linux-restricted-modules
[03:54] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: Is it possible for you to connect remotely to assist me?
[03:54] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: you may have to log out and back in
[03:54] <sudoman> anybody can help me??  I want to configure my network intefaces but i dont know the name of the configuration File
[03:54] <maximo> hola alguien habla espaol?
[03:54] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: Ok, I will try that
[03:54] <sudoman> maximo: yo pero estoy pidiendo ayuda XD
[03:54] <maximo> a ok yo tambien
[03:54] <antibody> sudoman: /etc/network/interfaces
[03:55] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: have you added the kbfx applet to kicker ?
[03:55] <sudoman> antibody: thanks :)
[03:55] <intelikey> sudoman /etc/network/interfaces  ?
[03:55] <intelikey> oh i'm late
[03:55] <sudoman> i guess :)
[03:55] <sudoman> THNX
[03:55] <sudoman> :)
[03:55] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: have you added the kbfx applet to kicker ?
[03:56] <justin1278> no
[03:56] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: how do I do that?
[03:56] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: aah kmenu applet isnt the kbfx applet there totally different programs
[03:56] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: ok, how do i do this?
[03:56] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: thats why it didnt change you still have the kmenu applet
[03:57] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: ok, how do i fix this?
[03:57] <intelikey> antibody i can think of three ways.  1 remove the module  2 blacklist the module   3 remove any referance to it in the config that is loading it...   if my guess is correct it's xorg.conf  but i could be wrong.
[03:57] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: right click on the kicker taskbar  configure-> add applet
[03:58] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: should open a window,  then select kbfx
[03:58] <intelikey> antibody if it's xorg.conf you probably want to change nvidia to nv
[03:58] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: yes it worked! but now i have 2 start menus
[03:59] <sudoman> ok this the configuration file but no work
[03:59] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: same process but now  "remove applet"
[03:59] <sudoman> I have a ethernet card
[03:59] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: yes i figured that out
[03:59] <intelikey> ifconfig
[03:59] <intelikey> iwconfig  for wifi
[03:59] <sudoman> But this detect it  how eth1
[03:59] <intelikey> !wifi
[03:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:00] <intelikey> ifconfig eth1 up
[04:00] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: now just move the kbfx applet to the left
[04:00] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: yes
[04:00] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: thats it all done
[04:00] <Stapol> Can someone tell me the best live cd
[04:01] <Stapol> For any distro
[04:01] <intelikey> knoppix
[04:01] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: well im having an issue now...
[04:01] <Stapol> My mac is limited on ram
[04:01] <sudoman> $ sudo ifconfig eth1 down
[04:01] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: my system menu is not right next to it now
[04:01] <sudoman> $sudo ifconfig eth0 up
[04:01] <sudoman> Don''t work
[04:01] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: its farther the the left
[04:01] <sudoman> :(
[04:02] <intelikey> eth0 eth1 ?
[04:02] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: remove what you dont want and move what you have to were you want it
[04:02] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: its not letting me move it
[04:02] <Stapol> I have a limited G4 Mac with no harddrive so knoppid is the best OS to run on a live cd?
[04:02] <sudoman> eth0> ERROR while getting interface flags: no such device
[04:02] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: never mind i fixed it
[04:02] <antibody> intelikey: I have other nvidia.ko
[04:02] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: do you see the handles to the left of each applet or have you set them to be hidden
[04:02] <antibody> I don't want to the lrm one to be loaded but the more recent one
[04:02] <Dr_willis> man - my bash-fu is lacking...
[04:03] <sudoman> intelikey: i have a integrated network card but is detect it how eth1
[04:03] <antibody> going away
[04:03] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: i fixed it, they were locked
[04:03] <antibody> bye
[04:03] <antibody> it's late :(
[04:03] <sudoman> should be eth0
[04:03] <sudoman> :(
[04:03] <Dr_willis> trying to get the output of a command. and put " quotes " around it.. and  do a little more work to it - to send the data to my G15 keyboard lcd
[04:03] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: once you have ti all setup you can hide the handles to make the taskbar look clean
[04:03] <Dr_willis> echo 'TL "Hello World" ' > g15pipe
[04:04] <intelikey> sudoman you need Dr_willis or someone that does networking  i do fs's and base configs..
[04:04] <Dr_willis> trying to replace "Hello World" with for example  the Top output.
[04:04] <Dr_willis> err. uptime  i mean. :)
[04:04] <justin1278> Ok, thanks
[04:04] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: how do I hide handles?
[04:05] <sudoman> mmm ok
[04:05] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: right click on kicker Confgiure->Appearance click on advanced bottom left and them tick the hide box
[04:05] <sudoman> >
[04:05] <sudoman> :(
[04:05] <hatta> justin1278, loose shirts
[04:06] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: in the second section down in the advanced section Applet Handles
[04:06] <sudoman> Dr_willis: can you help me ??
[04:06] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: mark hide  then click on apply
[04:06] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: I found it
[04:06] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: thanks
[04:07] <intelikey> Linux_Galore you know ifconfig stuff ?   sudoman needs some networking help.
[04:07] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: becomes a problem though when you want to move applets later you have to unhide the handles again
[04:07] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: ok
[04:08] <Linux_Galore> justin1278: bit the hassle is worth the eye candy heh
[04:08] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: let me read the history
[04:08] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: no problem
[04:08] <Stapol> Is there a good palce tog et cheap hardware that ships to canada
[04:08] <TehUni> i've currently got 2 hard drives setup in raid 1 (software, md). i'm reinstalling linux. what do i need to do to be sure nothing happens to the data? then how do i reconstruct the array and have mdadm recognize it as one that was previously created?
[04:09] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: I have a question, under themes it says Invalid Base Path under the Installed Theme section.
[04:09] <justin1278> Linux_Galore: What's wrong with it?
[04:09] <intelikey> Stapol ebay
[04:10] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: ve been cheating lately and using kwlan,  it allows you to start restart configure your lan connections
[04:10] <sudoman> Linux_Galore: I have a 2 network card, but i extract 1 of the PC, now my PC have a integrated network card but this detect how eth1
[04:10] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: on the fly
[04:10] <Stapol> I mean a reputable pleace not ebay
[04:10] <Stapol> Something like tigerdirect or newegg for canada
[04:11] <Linux_Galore> sudoman: eht1 or 2 doesnt really matter to be honest,  you can define your network rules either way
[04:11] <Linux_Galore> eth*
[04:12] <sudoman> Linux_Galore: can you teach me
[04:12] <BluesKaj> Stapol, there is a tigerdirect.ca
[04:12] <sudoman> for todo
[04:12] <sudoman> to do *
[04:12] <Linux_Galore> sudoman:   run  kdesu systemsettings  and just setup your network connection rules for that device under the network section
[04:13] <Stapol> Anything else? I like having options
[04:13] <Linux_Galore> sudoman: disable and enable the device  eth0/1/2 whatever and it will restart
[04:14] <Linux_Galore> sudoman: you may also have firewall issues so install firestarter and use that to konfigure your routing rules
[04:15] <sudoman> THNX so much all
[04:15] <sudoman> :) i have to go
[04:15] <sudoman> Linux_Galore:  :)
[04:15] <sudoman> exit
[04:16] <Minataku> !find genii
[04:16] <ubotu> Package/file genii does not exist in edgy
[04:16] <Minataku> I know !seen doesn't work so I thought it was something else now
[04:16] <Minataku> lol
[04:17] <underdog5004> Minataku, find is only for packages, not for people, lol
[04:17] <Linux_Galore> intelikey: Im using kubuntu way too much lol
[04:17] <Minataku> underdog5004: I thought !search was for packages (it is, BTW XD )
[04:17] <Minataku> underdog5004: He took !seen out, though
[04:17] <Minataku> !seen genii
[04:17] <underdog5004> oh...I guess both...I'm still a noob...
[04:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen genii - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:17] <Minataku> How lame is that
[04:17] <underdog5004> weird, why did seen disappear?
[04:18] <Minataku> It was either broken, disabled or removed
[04:18] <Linux_Galore> !latest kernel
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about latest kernel - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <Linux_Galore> thats a question, whats the difference between  2.6.17-11 and the 2.6.17-50  kernel
[04:19] <zach> how do I get ext2
[04:19] <underdog5004> stability?
[04:19] <underdog5004> zach, mkfs.ext2 /path/to/device
[04:20] <Linux_Galore> dont know, just noticed it on the repo
[04:20] <underdog5004> be careful, that'll format the device
[04:20] <Kyral> but why use Ext2 when Ext3 exist
[04:20] <underdog5004> Kyral, I think it's easier to recover data from...that's what I heard, anyway
[04:20] <Linux_Galore> Kyral: just use mkfs.ext3  if you want to I do
[04:21] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: For the really latest kernel, www.kernel.org
[04:21] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: duh
[04:21] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: The -XX is the patchlevel, I believe
[04:21] <Kyral> underdog5004: Interesting that you say that when you consider that you can switch back and forth between ext2 and ext3 at will on a partition without data loss
[04:21] <Minataku> But if you're going to be a jerk maybe I won't bother helping you
[04:21] <underdog5004> Kyral, I think there is more journaling or something...
[04:21] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: yeah but why the huge version number leap and why does the adept update tool ignore it
[04:21] <underdog5004> I'm not really an expert
[04:22] <Kyral> underdog5004: ext2 doesn't have Journalling :P
[04:22] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: No clue how *buntu does things
[04:22] <Kyral> underdog5004: in fact thats the big difference
[04:22] <underdog5004> ah, so infinetly more journaling, then
[04:22] <mart81> anyone here have read a freesoftwaremagazine? I am curious whether the magazine is any good. :)
[04:22] <Minataku> I'd think the former is because patches between just weren't released
[04:22] <underdog5004> mart81, I read it occasionally, it's really not that great...
[04:22] <Kyral> underdog5004: In fact if you specify the -j option to mkfs.ext2 its the same as mkfs.ext3 :P
[04:22] <antibody> hey hi
[04:22] <antibody> one simples question
[04:22] <Minataku> The latter perhaps because it's flagged in the repository to be ignored or it could be some undefined stupidity
[04:23] <antibody> what's the dir to make some modules load with any option?
[04:23] <antibody> (not any....with some specified options)
[04:23] <Minataku> I get/compile my kernels straight from kernel.org whenever I feel like updating my kernel
[04:24] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: Sorry to snap at you like that, BTW
[04:24] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: meh, Im in marketing
[04:24] <Dr_willis> Wee - i got my G15 keyboard actually doing things in Linux now. :)
[04:25] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: and your human
[04:25] <Minataku> You assume... correctly
[04:25] <Minataku> XD
[04:25] <Minataku> Sorry, lame joke X3
[04:26] <enzo_> Anyone know where I'd be able to find a torrent for Spector 6?
[04:26] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: people always say things they regret later, we all do, i just accept people have emotions and sometimes they can take over the mind
[04:26] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: Definitely
[04:26] <Minataku> enzo_: We aren't asking for warez, are we?
[04:26] <enzo_> Nope
[04:27] <Minataku> Because we don't support such activities nor sites like thepiratebay.org
[04:27] <flaccid> thanks Minataku i'll check it out
[04:27] <Minataku> lol
[04:27] <flaccid> any others we don't support?
[04:27] <enzo_> My mother-in-law wants to know what her son is upto and I thought about this app a while back and just now got around to wanting to test its features and see if it suites what she wants to do
[04:28] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: aaah, you wont like my mythbox machine that runs ubuntu, the start sound is "YO-HO Yo-HO a pirates life for me"
[04:28] <Linux_Galore> heh
[04:28] <flaccid> arrr arr
[04:28] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: lol
[04:28] <Minataku> Take note "we" doesn't include myself
[04:28] <flaccid> treasure
[04:28] <enzo_> I can easily find spector 5, but 6 has MySpace controls so that she can see what he's doing and saying and all of that good stuff
[04:28] <Minataku> ;3
[04:28] <flaccid> well this channel aint #spector
[04:28] <zach> !gnome
[04:28] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[04:29] <Minataku> enzo_: I take it this is some sort of commercial spyware?
[04:29] <Minataku> Which more than likely doesn't run on Linux anyway?
[04:29] <enzo_> Minataku: Somewhat
[04:30] <zach> how do I write to a floppy
[04:30] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: stole the sound file from my old amiga, there was an app used to copy files bit by bit,  the start sound was the "Yo-HO"  sound file
[04:30] <Minataku> enzo_: Sorry if this sounds condescending, but why would you ask a Linux channel about Windows software?
[04:30] <lancelot_rw> hello guys... helpme?
[04:30] <lancelot_rw> Starting LimeWire...
[04:30] <lancelot_rw> Java exec found in PATH. Verifying...
[04:30] <lancelot_rw> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. LimeWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com
[04:30] <Minataku> Especially one we'd never support even if we did use Windows?
[04:30] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: means you have to install java
[04:30] <Linux_Galore> !java
[04:30] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:30] <Minataku> Instead of spying on your child, try talking to him/her instead
[04:30] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, but i have it installed
[04:30] <enzo_> Minataku: Believe me, it hit me a bit late
[04:31] <Dr_willis> lancelot_rw,  use java --version (or -version) to see which java you are using
[04:31] <zach> how do I write to a floppy
[04:31] <Minataku> Conversation will get you a whole lot farther than a complete and utter violation of trust
[04:31] <lancelot_rw> java version "1.4.2"
[04:31] <lancelot_rw> humpf.. now i found the problems
[04:31] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: did you set the default java version as mentioned near the end of the howto, the normal default is a gnu java hack that wont work with comercial apps
[04:32] <Minataku> enzo_: Sorry to be a jerk, BTW, I'm just in a mood like that I guess
[04:32] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, i will try to install it via apt-get.. because my version is java version "1.4.2"
[04:32] <lancelot_rw> if it doesnt work out.. i will try the how-to , ok ?
[04:32] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: yeah 1.4.2 is deprecated with p2p apps
[04:32] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: need version 5
[04:32] <Minataku> As for where to find it, I certainly wouldn't expect such to be somewhere like thepiratebay.org, not that I'd suggest you look at a place that deals in P2P sharing of various things
[04:32] <zach> how do I write to a floppy
[04:33] <Minataku> zach: Depends how you need to write to it
[04:33] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore,  get:5 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/multiverse sun-java5-jre 1.5.0-06-1 [7341kB]
[04:33] <Minataku> Raw or standard?
[04:33] <lancelot_rw> im downloadin via atp-get
[04:33] <enzo_> Minataku: I deal with idiots all day long... I'm in TechSupport
[04:33] <Minataku> enzo_: Heh, I apologize to you and you call me an idiot? ;3
[04:33] <zach> Minataku: what is the diffrence?
[04:34] <Minataku> zach: Raw is if you have a floppy image you want to write to a floppy
[04:34] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: dont forget to set your default java version because that will install another version of java but it wont remove the old version so you have to set your default new version
[04:34] <lancelot_rw> how do I set it ?
[04:34] <Minataku> zach: Standard is if you're trying to save a file or two to a filesystem on a floppy
[04:34] <zach> Minataku: wel then, standard
[04:34] <Minataku> zach: Gotta mount it
[04:35] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[04:35] <zach> Minataku: I mounted it an it says I need administrative rights
[04:35] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: it will list all the installed version of java and ask you to select one
[04:35] <Minataku> enzo_: Sorry (again)... just read carefully my tips, while it looks like I'm not helping you, read closer
[04:36] <Minataku> zach: Do you mean you tried to mount it and it failed?
[04:36] <zach> no
[04:36] <Minataku> Sorry, I don't use KDE
[04:36] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, yes.. i did that.. but lime didnt started...
[04:37] <zach> Who USes KDE?
[04:37] <Minataku> So I don't know what kind of errors it spews in situation X or Y
[04:37] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, now it worked
[04:37] <lancelot_rw> =)
[04:37] <lancelot_rw> many thanks man
[04:37] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: aaah, use frostwire
[04:37] <Minataku> zach: You use KDE, or at the very least you use a KDE IRC client
[04:38] <zach> I know
[04:38] <enzo_> Minataku: Sorry, I was away for a bit. I was talking about your "mood". I have them screaming in my ear, sending in incoherent emails, etc. Your "mood" doesn't even come close.
[04:38] <Minataku> zach: Either way, your user account lacks, for one reason or another, permission to read/write to the floppy
[04:38] <Minataku> enzo_: Ah
[04:38] <Minataku> No worries
[04:38] <zach> how do I  gel permission to write to a floppy?
[04:39] <Linux_Galore> zach: ?? what are you mounting
[04:39] <Minataku> enzo_: Yeah, tech support personell tend to get the short end of the stick
[04:39] <zach> Linux_Galore: Floppy
[04:39] <Linux_Galore> zach: add you user to floppy group
[04:39] <enzo_> Minataku: and also all the transferred calls
[04:40] <Minataku> enzo_: Indeed
[04:40] <Minataku> Thanks, Linux_Galore and sorry I couldn't assist, zach
[04:40] <Minataku> lol
[04:40] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: I used one just yesterday
[04:40] <zach> Thank You
[04:40] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: lucky you, I hate the things
[04:41] <Minataku> Hell, I bent over backwards figuring out how to replace the FDD in my "new" Dell System 326LT
[04:41] <Minataku> *316LT
[04:41] <Linux_Galore> zach: get a USB thumb drive, floppies are terrible devices
[04:41] <Minataku> Which would only work with some dumbass Sony FDD
[04:41] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: No, they're not, and keep opinions like that out of the assistance
[04:42] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: ooh yeah, they are so great, single threading with rubbish ide protocols that make it hang your machine, goto love it
[04:43] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: one of the reason Apple got rid of the floppy was its such a bad design when used with a multi user OS
[04:43] <Minataku> Always good to have a floppy around to save your ass
[04:43] <lancelot_rw> hwo do I set an icon on "K bar" (KDE) to show the Desktop.. (like windows*)
[04:43] <Linux_Galore> Minataku:  havnet used a floppy in 3 years, no issues recovering any systems yet
[04:44] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: Apple does a lot of stupid things for a lot of even stupider reasons
[04:44] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: a floppy isnt multi user
[04:44] <Minataku> Considering hardly any Apple machines run Multiuser
[04:44] <Minataku> That's really a nonissue
[04:45] <Minataku> They dropped it because it was "obsolete" or rather, by their reasoning, "not cool"
[04:45] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: also a 32mb thumb drive is like $8
[04:45] <zach> How do I add myself to the floppy group?
[04:45] <mart81> lancelot_rw: unlock panel, right click, add to panel, view desktop. (note: translated)
[04:45] <Linux_Galore> zach: look in kcontrol
[04:45] <Linux_Galore> zach:  alt F2  kcontrol
[04:46] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: I'm a computer collector, and floppies are quite invaluable to me
[04:46] <Kyral> lancelot_rw: It might be called "Show Desktop"
[04:46] <Minataku> Considering on most of these machines I'd be 100% aground without them
[04:46] <Minataku> s/most/a\ number/
[04:46] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: I collect PDA's,  less pace wasted and they look cool all lines up on the wall behind glass
[04:46] <Linux_Galore> space*
[04:47] <Minataku> While that's a nice collection, I can't say I appreciate you taking a shot at what I like to collect
[04:47] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: over sized paper weights heh
[04:47] <Kyral> ....
[04:47] <Kyral> both of you...
[04:47] <Linux_Galore> heh
[04:48] <Minataku> How does he do it!?
[04:48] <Kyral> ....
[04:48] <Kyral> Both of you take it to PM
[04:48] <Minataku> lol
[04:48] <Linux_Galore> aaaw, no fun
[04:48] <Minataku> Actually I'm in a better mood now, I'd rather apologize and just end it instead
[04:48] <DBO> head sphincter interaction should be kept in private
[04:48] <Minataku> Sorry about all that, Linux_Galore
[04:48] <lancelot_rw> mart81, Kyral thanks!!
[04:49] <Kyral> Linux_Galore: More like I have a headache and tired and am approaching BOFH mode :P
[04:49] <Kyral> lancelot_rw: np
[04:49] <Minataku> Kyral: Instead of taking it out on people, go take some Tylenol and have a nap
[04:49] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: Nothing in there anyway *grabs it back*
[04:49] <Kyral> Minataku: Oh if I went to BOFH mode I'd be the one being banned :P
[04:50] <Minataku> Kyral: lol
[04:50] <Minataku> Kyral: Hard to tell around here, considering the practice of hiding status
[04:50] <Kyral> ?
[04:50] <lancelot_rw> Kyral, i installed Kubuntu today.. and i'm now configuring my system
[04:50] <Kyral> I meant literally banned from the channel
[04:50] <Linux_Galore> its like 34C here in Sydney
[04:51] <enzo_> What is the command to restore GRUB?
[04:51] <Minataku> Kyral: I know
[04:51] <Kyral> lancelot_rw: Have fun. And words of advice...don't be afraid to break it :D
[04:51] <Minataku> And I was saying that I wouldn't know if you would be banner or banee
[04:51] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: like  grub-install
[04:51] <Kyral> Its how I learned 90% of the stuff I know :D
[04:51] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: no
[04:51] <Minataku> Since nobody shows status around here
[04:51] <Linux_Galore> heh
[04:51] <lancelot_rw> Kyral, yeah.,. im not.. thanks! :>
[04:51] <enzo_> Linux_Galore: nope
[04:51] <zach> !grub
[04:51] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:51] <enzo_> Let me clarify my question...
[04:51] <Minataku> Indeed, you can't really learn unless you're allowed to hurt yourself
[04:52] <enzo_> What METHOD can actually restore GRUB?
[04:52] <Minataku> You don't really know that "FIRE BAD" until you touch it and get burned
[04:52] <Kyral> enzo_: Read the link
[04:52] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: depends what you means by restore.
[04:53] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: restore the mbr ?? restore the default setup ?
[04:53] <Minataku> But yeah, sorry all for getting out of hand
[04:53] <linija> Ummmm. Newbie here... How do I change to directory (cd command) with 2 words with space between words. (underscore doesn't do it)?
[04:53] <Minataku> Sorry especially to you, Linux_Galore XD
[04:53] <Minataku> linija: \
[04:53] <linija> thank you
[04:53] <Minataku> np
[04:54] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, is this FrostWire a clone of LimeWire ?
[04:54] <lancelot_rw> LOL
[04:54] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: yep, same service less ram
[04:55] <Kyral> Linux_Galore: That describes Linux (in relation to Windows :P)
[04:55] <Minataku> enzo_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows << That should do it for ya
[04:55] <underdog5004> rofl
[04:55] <Minataku> Windows is a jerk and overwrites the MBR
[04:55] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, great! :>
[04:55] <Minataku> If the MBR is trashed then GRUB is too
[04:55] <Minataku> But if GRUB alone is trashed, then the same applies
[04:55] <Minataku> It has to be reinstalled
[04:55] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: aah,  windows is like when your mum visits and changes everything without asking
[04:56] <Minataku> enzo_: Are you getting "GRUBGRUBGRUBGRUBGRUB..." when you boot?
[04:56] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: Precisely
[04:57] <Minataku> Keep in mind I consider Windows' excuse for a bootloader as a trashed MBR
[04:57] <Minataku> lol
[04:57] <enzo_> Yes Minataku
[04:58] <Minataku> enzo_: Then yeah, GRUB needs to be reinstalled
[04:58] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: need to reinstall grub
[04:59] <Minataku> That link should be just what you need despite not being for the specific reason
[04:59] <Minataku> enzo_: Sorry again about earlier ( I apologize a lot because I have an OCD... sorry >.< )
[05:00] <Minataku> But yeah, if GRUB gets hosed and prints that over and over it just needs a reinstall
[05:00] <Minataku> mart81: Really that's not even needed in this case, just keeping the LiveCD handy can get you out of this problem
[05:01] <mart81> Minataku: i know, but having todo a single command just rocks :p
[05:01] <Minataku> I gotta go take my pills then reboot my SPARCstation LX into Solaris
[05:01] <enzo_> Minataku: You're fine in my book :)
[05:01] <Minataku> enzo_: :D
[05:02] <Minataku> mart81: True, but it's a bit more technical than most Kubuntu users would be willing to attempt
[05:02] <underdog5004> lol, speaking of LiveCDs, DSL (www.damnsmalllinux.org) is, IMHO, the best liveCD ever (let the flamers begin)
[05:02] <enzo_> So now my question becomes HOW do I reinstall GRUB. Every other method has failed on me so far
[05:02] <Minataku> enzo_: Booting from the LiveCD and running grub_install should be it
[05:03] <Minataku> Or even using GRUB from the LiveCD to boot into installed
[05:03] <Minataku> Then reinstalling from there
[05:03] <Minataku> Sorry, but I gotta go take my pills, bbiab
[05:04] <Dr_willis> or boot a live cd, chroot over to the installed system and run grub_install
[05:04] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: I suspect grub itself is broken, most people foget grub isnt the code that resides in the mbr its on the first primary partition of the OS
[05:07] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: basically you need to boot of the cd  chroot the /  partition cd to  the chrooted  and apt-get install grub again but use the version of apt  in the chrooted directory
[05:08] <snowrichard> \
[05:08] <ernie> has anyone with Kubuntu 6.10 had Konqueror Web Links open up In the Kate editor instead of a webpage when clicked on
[05:10] <juano__> hello everyone!
[05:10] <mart81> ernie: yup, i have, sometimes it does not give any option, really odd.
[05:10] <mart81> ernie: but that is not only the case in 6.10 afaik
[05:11] <mey> pordon para entrar en un canal espaol?
[05:11] <mey> Hola
[05:11] <ernie> mart81 - ok - I cant seem to find where you can - turn that "feature" off :)
[05:12] <cpk1> if I installed a bunch of stuff via apt and it still is in my cache is there a way I can have another computer on the same network pull those same apps from there instead of the web?
[05:12] <juano__> !es | mey
[05:12] <ubotu> mey: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[05:12] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: if grub is corrupted I would expect many other things are broken too
[05:12] <enzo_> I can boot into the / partition with Super Grub Disk
[05:12] <bomber> i need help
[05:13] <enzo_> so really I just need to login, and "sudo apt-get install grub"? or what is the pkg name?
[05:13] <bomber> i am getting no signal in tvtime
[05:13] <mart81> ernie: tell me about it, my personaly fix is to right click the page and choose "open with firefox", which is an extra option which should appear when you have firefox installed.
[05:13] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: being able to see a partition or file doesnt mean its not corrupted
[05:13] <Minataku> Back
[05:13] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: yeah. basically reinstall grub
[05:13] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: I've had the same issue before
[05:14] <jay> How is vmware different from Qemu?
[05:14] <Minataku> If it prints "GRUB" over and over a simple reinstall is all you need
[05:14] <Dr_willis> jay,  similer tools.. differnt people/companies wrote  them.
[05:14] <enzo_> Thank you Minataku and Linux_Galore
[05:14] <Minataku> enzo_: np
[05:14] <Dr_willis> qemu is gpl. vmware is not.
[05:14] <Dr_willis> the 2 are similer in what they do. but not related otherwise.
[05:15] <Minataku> QEMU is an open-source virtualization system, targeting various architectures
[05:15] <ernie> mart18 :) Well I kind of just run FF instead for browsing now - although on a "thinking about other stuff" moment - Click - up pops Kate :)
[05:15] <jay> I swear I saw somewhere on some site where qemu emulates things "better" than vmware where a window appears with it''s own native window manager inside ur linux os
[05:15] <Dr_willis> jay,  i dont even understand what you just said. :)
[05:15] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[05:15] <Minataku> VMWare is a commercial virtualization system, targeting one or two architectures and providing far greater "oomph"
[05:15] <jay> lol
[05:16] <Minataku> VMWare will typically produce a faster emulated system
[05:16] <Dr_willis> vmware-server is a lot of fun to play with. ya can run live cd's with it. and other neat tricks.
[05:16] <Dr_willis> saves me a lot of cd's
[05:16] <mart81> ernie: yeah it's frustating sometimes, the other bugger it that is wants you to save *.php files from time to time for whatever reason.
[05:16] <Minataku> Whereas QEMU is slower (faster with the binary KQEMU, though)
[05:16] <jay> For example.. if you installed Internet Explorer, instead of having the entire os running in a window, the applications running in the guest os run in their own window in your OS
[05:16] <jay> that's incorrect?
[05:16] <Minataku> jay: Both do the same
[05:16] <Dr_willis> jay,  with vmware/qemu - you DONT just install internet explorer..
[05:17] <Dr_willis> they emulate the whole machine and need a whole os.
[05:17] <ernie> Jay - thats a program called Wine that can do that - not in all cases though
[05:17] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, do u know any other p2p app?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> with 'wine' you can install IE. (ick)
[05:17] <Minataku> QEMU and VMWare both run an emulated system within the confines of the host OS
[05:17] <jay> I have vmware installed.. I was just wondering if Qemu actually did what I just said
[05:17] <Minataku> jay: It does
[05:17] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, frost and lime are not downloading songs =/
[05:17] <Minataku> I know what you're getting at and it does
[05:17] <Minataku> lol
[05:17] <Linux_Galore> jay: I use a thing called crossover, basically  90% of all my windows apps run in Linux without windows being installed
[05:17] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: install firestarter and manage your routing
[05:18] <jay> 90%??? wow.. that's alot
[05:18] <jay> I can't even get CS2 to run
[05:18] <juano__> Linux_Galore: yep, i do crossover too
[05:18] <Linux_Galore> yeah, even WoW works
[05:18] <Dr_willis> 'games' dont count. :)
[05:18] <Dr_willis> heh heh
[05:18] <ernie> Linux_Galore - what kind of things can crossover - not run - besides really badly written windows apps
[05:18] <Linux_Galore> well office XP pro works fine
[05:18] <Minataku> Games are more on Cedega's side than Crossover
[05:18] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, let me try
[05:18] <Dr_willis> WoW seems to break somthing with wine/cedega/whatever - with every new WoW patch
[05:18] <juano__> Dr_willis: Cedega can run some games.. though its not XP :) lol
[05:18] <Minataku> My suggestion if you're a PC gamer
[05:19] <Dr_willis> WoW is evil! Friends dont let friends play WoW
[05:19] <Linux_Galore> lol
[05:19] <Minataku> Keep a high-end Windows PC for games ONLY
[05:19] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:19] <Minataku> Keep an older/cheaper Linux PC for EVERYTHING ELSE
[05:19] <juano__> Minataku: very true
[05:19] <Linux_Galore> get a XBOX360, end of issue, also consoles now get games released before the PC
[05:19] <Minataku> Caps necessary
[05:19] <Minataku> Mmmm... XBox 360
[05:20] <Linux_Galore> if got my xbox working with my samba shares now so it playes my video files on my file server
[05:20] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: Cool
[05:20] <Minataku> XBox 360 connected to a Linux Media System XD
[05:20] <Minataku> FIGHT THE POWER
[05:20] <Minataku> X3
[05:21] <Linux_Galore> Minataku: yep, works a treat,  just use the xbox as a front end to my media/file server
[05:21] <Minataku> Sweeeet
[05:22] <Linux_Galore> my media server grabs stuff of cable then ripps it to avi on the fly, get home and watch it on my TV via the xbox
[05:25] <Linux_Galore> I cant see the logic now of having a PC for games, the new consoles are so powerfull and they support on-line gaming now so why bother with a PC with wincrap just for games
[05:26] <lancelot_rw> yeah, i agree with you Linux_Galore
[05:26] <Linux_Galore> also PC games come out later than the console version
[05:27] <underdog5004> ummm, can anyone tell me why my box freezes (sometimes unfreezes) whenever I use skype to call someone? Only when I call someone, not when I start skype...
[05:27] <Linux_Galore> got a 52" 16:10 1080i/p LCD last xmas on special and its great with games
[05:27] <Dr_willis> i dont see the need for a console. we got IRC!
[05:27] <Linux_Galore> 8ums refresh
[05:27] <Linux_Galore> 8ms*
[05:28] <underdog5004> Linux_Galore does have a point
[05:28] <Linux_Galore> underdog5004: sounds like it having issues connecting to the sound server
[05:29] <Linux_Galore> underdog5004: make sure it set to use alsa
[05:29] <Minataku> Linux_Galore: I'm a console gamer as well
[05:29] <Linux_Galore> underdog5004: i think the "Linux doesnt have games" think is a none issue now
[05:29] <Linux_Galore> thing*
[05:31] <Linux_Galore> Linux is great as a destop/ office XP works thansk to crossover and I use Linux as a media backend for the xbox
[05:31] <Linux_Galore> I have no logical use for windows
[05:31] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, crossover is like an emulator for win apps?
[05:31] <underdog5004> Linux_Galore, why use office XP?
[05:31] <underdog5004> !openoffice
[05:31] <ubotu> a free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org". User help available in #users.openoffice.org
[05:32] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: not really, crossover pretends to be the win32 api sp windows apps think they are running in windows
[05:32] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: I wouls say its more of a win32 api translator
[05:32] <Linux_Galore> would*
[05:33] <enzo_> Minataku: Linux_Galore: Would I have to first uninstall/remove grub and then install it again, or just install and let it pave over?
[05:33] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, great.. i'll try it... google? can i find it there?
[05:33] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: no just install it again
[05:33] <Linux_Galore> enzo_: it will overwrite the old one
[05:34] <enzo_> I hope so
[05:34] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: hold on let me hand you the link
[05:34] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, okey man
[05:36] <Minataku> Yeah, just overwrite (sorry for the delay)
[05:37] <enzo_> Cross your fingers and your nodes...
[05:38] <enzo_> Nope
[05:38] <enzo_> Still GRUBGRUBGRUBGRUBGRUBGRUBGRUBGRUBGRUB
[05:38] <enzo_> ...
[05:39] <enzo_> Oh well, it was worth a shot
[05:39] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: did you get the link
[05:40] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, yes
[05:40] <lancelot_rw> i'll download that
[05:41] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: yep  , unpack it , cd to the Linux directory, I installed the version that installs in the users account that way its more secure
[05:42] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, any torrent app for linux?
[05:42] <lancelot_rw> found it
[05:42] <lancelot_rw> ;-)
[05:42] <Dr_willis> theres dozens of torrent clients out for linux
[05:42] <Dr_willis> ktorrent is very nice
[05:42] <underdog5004> lancelot_rw, rtorrent, ktorrent, azureus
[05:42] <underdog5004> i prefer rtorrent on my server...awesomeness
[05:42] <lancelot_rw> underdog5004, thanks
[05:43] <flaccid> i don't like ktorrent
[05:43] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, do I have to download OSX files too ?
[05:43] <lancelot_rw> notech, right?
[05:43] <lancelot_rw> notech, sorry
[05:43] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw:  upack it  cd ~/Crossocer\ 6 \Final/Linux/Loki \Installer/  then chmod a+x install-crossover-pro-6.0.0.sh  then ./install-crossover-pro-6.0.0.sh
[05:43] <notech> lancelot_rw: no problem :)
[05:44] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: no the osx stuff isnt needed but its a zip file so there is little choice
[05:44] <flaccid> sh ./nonexec.sh
[05:44] <solidsource> anyone here use Automatix and get the error "E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes"...specifically the nvidia driver
[05:44] <Linux_Galore> solidsource: automatix is a great way to break you install
[05:44] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, when I added the torrent to the Ktorrent it lets me to choose download only linux folder
[05:45] <Linux_Galore> your*
[05:45] <lancelot_rw> it will take 1 hour of download
[05:45] <lancelot_rw> nops.. 30 minutes LOL
[05:45] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: cant do that with ktorrent it breaks it ive tried it already
[05:45] <solidsource> Linux_Galore: I have had good luck with Automatix before, this is first problem I'm had
[05:45] <solidsource> I've*
[05:45] <crazy_bus> I
[05:46] <flaccid> !automatix
[05:46] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[05:46] <flaccid> hehe
[05:46] <Linux_Galore> solidsource: there is actually no logical reason to use automatix, all the packages are in adept anyway
[05:46] <crazy_bus> I'm downloading a video tutorial, but unfortunatly its in .swf format.  What linux player can play it besides a webrowser?
[05:46] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, i will restart download than
[05:46] <flaccid> !swfplayer
[05:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about swfplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <lancelot_rw> then*
[05:47] <flaccid> !find swf
[05:47] <ubotu> Found: gstreamer0.8-swfdec, libflash-swfplayer, libswf-perl, libswfdec0.3, libswfdec0.3-dev (and 1 others)
[05:47] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: azureus can split files but ktorrent cant
[05:47] <solidsource> Linux_Galore: yeah, keep getting a gamma problem when I do it that way or even just using the script
[05:47] <lancelot_rw> sometimes english fails .. LOL
[05:47] <flaccid> !libflsh-swfplayer | crazy_bus
[05:47] <flaccid> !libflash-swfplayer
[05:47] <ubotu> libflash-swfplayer: GPL Flash (SWF) Library - stand-alone player. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.13-8ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 12 kB, installed size 68 kB
[05:48] <Linux_Galore> actually kaffeine can play flash files if you install the player
[05:49] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, limewire doesnt connects... the network metter is red.. =/
[05:49] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: means you dont have a port open
[05:50] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: install  firestarter
[05:50] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, i click connect and it doesnt work
[05:50] <Linux_Galore> lancelot_rw: it allows you to manage your ports graphically on the fly
[05:50] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, i've already installed Firestarter.... i will try to use that
[05:50] <flaccid> thats not going to help if the router aint forwarding
[05:51] <crazy_bus> flaccid: the package is named libflash-swfplayer for me instead of libflsh-swf....
[05:51] <solidsource> I find Frostwire to work better
[05:52] <flaccid> yeah fish was a spelling mistake soz
[05:53] <crazy_bus> that program doesn't seem to work for me, it just slows the computer right down and doesn't load properly
[05:53] <flaccid> crazy_bus: yeah i get that a lot
[05:53] <flaccid> seems to be borked on ubuntu
[05:54] <crazy_bus> is there a plugin to get it to work on kaffeine, mplayer etc?
[05:54] <flaccid> oops
[05:54] <lancelot_rw> Linux_Galore, FireStarter = Allow Service (Unknown) Port 7760 For Everyone
[05:54] <lancelot_rw> and it is still red (limewire)
[05:55] <crazy_bus> I can play the file in konqueror.  The only problem is that its scaled or something.  The text looks weird
[05:58] <Linux_Galore> crazy_bus: install the flash player then restart kaffeine and you can change the engine under Setting Player Engine
[05:59] <lancelot_rw> brb
[06:03] <Lebowski_> i type sudo oem-config-prepare in run command and nothing happens
[06:04] <illusin1> Hi, how do you "reinstall" an existing kernel (wipe the existing instance and replace it with a fresh copy)?
[06:04] <flaccid> whats a gui program to rip dvds?
[06:04] <solidsource> K9Copy works well
[06:05] <LaNCeLoT_RW> great! now my frostwire is downloading! thanks Linux_Galore
[06:06] <Lebowski_> how do i get rid of this oem user
[06:06] <stdin> Lebowski_: it's a shell command, you should now just restart and setup should continue
[06:06] <flaccid> thanks solidsource
[06:06] <stdin> illusin1: why would you need to ?
[06:07] <flaccid> solidsource: can you rip to anything kind of thing. what can you rip dvd video to?
[06:08] <Hail_Spacecake> does anyone know of an ubuntu repository that has ZSNES on it?
[06:08] <solidsource> flaccid: I have been able to rip every kind of DVD (not sure if I've tried HD DVDs yet). its default is to rip into ISO format, but you can change that setting to a couple others
[06:09] <flaccid> solidsource: can you rip a dvd and encode to say divx/xvid/mpg etc. ?
[06:09] <MuJ> Hail_Spacecake: multiverse
[06:09] <solidsource> flaccid: hold on let me verify
[06:10] <Lebowski_> i rebooted and asking for oem password again
[06:10] <Hail_Spacecake> multiverse?
[06:10] <stdin> !repos | Hail_Spacecake
[06:10] <ubotu> Hail_Spacecake: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:10] <flaccid> thanks mate
[06:11] <stdin> Lebowski_: this is the help page for OEM installs https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ubuntu_OEM_Installer_Overview
[06:11] <Lebowski_> thanks
[06:11] <illusin1> stdin: I need to do this because I tried to follow a guide for beryl installation (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=263851) and it messed up my system (even when I revereted the xorg.conf file to it's original copy)
[06:11] <solidsource> flaccid: you can do xvid, but if you want that, you might want to try something else
[06:12] <stdin> illusin1: that's nothing to go with the kernel
[06:12] <solidsource> flaccid: generally only copy any DVD for a backup, which means I just burn a disc immediately
[06:13] <illusin1> std: it seems it does, as when I switched to an older kernel, it started to work (albeit with only one screen now)
[06:14] <Linux_Galore> yeah, kaffeine can play swf file just set  netscape Plugin viewer  as the engine
[06:14] <stdin> illusin1: can't see how it is anything to do with the kernel, but, boot in to the older kernel then remove the newer kernel, then just install it again
[06:14] <Linux_Galore> under the Settings -> Engine menu in kaffeine
[06:15] <illusin1> stdin: how do I "delete" a kernel version? do I need to delete the directory in /usr/linux/src (or wherever it is)?
[06:15] <Linux_Galore> illusin1: no,  run adept and remove the kernel packages for the old version
[06:15] <stdin> illusin1: no, just remove the package in adept, or with apt-get
[06:16] <solidsource> flaccid: try DVDrip and AcidRip, they have more features than k9copy
[06:16] <illusin1> stdin/Linux_Galore: got it, thanks :)
[06:19] <solidsource> has anyone been able to get the visualizations to work in amarok, installed libvisual and the libvisual plugins and getting nothing
[06:21] <flaccid> thanks solidsource
[06:21] <vursitis> hello everyone
[06:21] <solidsource> np flaccid
[06:31] <lancelot_rw> still doesnt appearing
[06:31] <flaccid> ah well
[06:31] <flaccid> log out and then back in
[06:32] <lancelot_rw> i've already restarted my computer
[06:32] <flaccid> maybe you removed the thing from the tray that gives it
[06:32] <lancelot_rw> flaccid, take a look
[06:32] <lancelot_rw> http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/109/snapshot1tl0.png
[06:32] <lancelot_rw> please
[06:32] <darweth> Anyone know why the public key on Riddell's Amarok repos is not writing?
[06:33] <flaccid> add the task bar applet back if it aint there
[06:33] <stdin> darweth: do you have the error message ?
[06:34] <darweth> kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg: Permission denied
[06:34] <darweth> Cannot write to `kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg' (Permission denied).
[06:34] <darweth> with a wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[06:34] <flaccid> ask jriddell about it
[06:34] <lancelot_rw> flaccid, thanks man
[06:34] <stdin> darweth: make sure you are saving it in your home directory, just type "cd" and press enter first
[06:34] <flaccid> lancelot_rw: np
[06:35] <darweth> yeah.  i am in home. :)
[06:35] <darweth> oh wait.
[06:35] <darweth> doh.  thanks. :P
[06:35] <flaccid> oh
[06:35] <flaccid> i misread
[06:35] <stdin> darweth: heh, we all have one of those moments :P
[06:36] <darweth> i already had a horrible moment today out of stupidity. :P
[06:36] <darweth> i just had to reinstall Ubuntu.  hehe.
[06:36] <flaccid> you don't need to keep the key once installed so you could wget it in /tmp, add the key then it will be cleared from /tmp on reboot
[06:36] <stdin> I just do "wget URLofKey -
[06:37] <stdin> ahh, :P I just do "wget URLofKey -O-|sudo apt-key add -"
[06:37] <lancelot_rw> anyone knows how can i add a 32-bit apps repository?
[06:37] <darweth> just don't do a chmod -R 777 on your entire master drive from a live disc.
[06:37] <flaccid> !repos
[06:37] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:37] <darweth> :O :O :O
[06:37] <flaccid> haha
[06:37] <flaccid> i prefer rm -Rf /
[06:38] <jessej> how do i install kdevelop?  it's grayed out in add/remove programs
[06:38] <flaccid> !kdevelop
[06:38] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB
[06:38] <stdin> enable universe
[06:38] <flaccid> enable universe repos then you should be able to install it
[06:38] <jessej> where do i enable universe?
[06:38] <stdin> !repos | jessej
[06:38] <ubotu> jessej: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:39] <lancelot_rw> great.. but anyone knows a repository link? 32-bit apps
[06:39] <lancelot_rw> kubuntu 6.06 (dapper)
[06:40] <stdin> lancelot_rw: there is no "32-bit" reop, apt/dpkg decide what architecture to use
[06:40] <lancelot_rw> =/
[06:40] <lancelot_rw> thats not nice .. LOL
[06:41] <geekgod_> anyone know how to patch wine with a bin file
[06:45] <stdin> lancelot_rw: looking about, I think all you need to "enable" you to run 32bit apps are these packages "ia32-libs ia32-libs-kde ia32-libs-gtk linux32 lib32asound2"
[06:47] <lancelot_rw> stdin, i'll download and install all of these packages
[06:47] <geekgod_> any idea how to make apt respect prefrence file
[06:47] <lancelot_rw> =)
[06:48] <lancelot_rw> guys.. im using KPF to share files.. is there a way to upload files from another computer to mine using this app?
[06:49] <jessej> kdevelop is still grayed out in add/remove programs after activating universe
[06:49] <stdin> jessej: can you install it in adept manager?
[06:50] <flaccid> jessej: can you run a command in konsole like sudo apt-get install kdevelop ?
[06:50] <jessej> hold on i will check
[06:50] <flaccid> yeah try adept first sorry
[06:50] <jessej> i tried the command in command line and that didn't work
[06:50] <stdin> lancelot_rw: don't think so, kpf is just a small http server
[06:50] <lancelot_rw> ok.
[06:50] <Minataku> !find mame
[06:50] <ubotu> Found: kxmame, xmame-common, xmame-gl, xmame-sdl, xmame-svga (and 2 others)
[06:50] <jessej> a search for kdevelop in adpt turned up no results
[06:50] <Minataku> Hm
[06:50] <Minataku> !find sdlmame
[06:51] <ubotu> Package/file sdlmame does not exist in edgy
[06:51] <Minataku> Bah
[06:51] <Minataku> Someone needs to get on the ball
[06:51] <stdin> jessej: make sure you "Fetch all updates" in adept (top left button, that looks like a refresh button)
[06:51] <lancelot_rw> why my KTorrent stalled download at 99,85% ??
[06:51] <lancelot_rw> oh my god
[06:51] <solidsource> anyone getting this problem: Adept Notifier saying there is an update even though you have downloaded them all and even rececked the sources?
[06:51] <Minataku> XMAME is pretty much dead
[06:51] <TheDebugger> Have you ever had that problem... When you're in the system settings, you click on Administrator mode for System Services or User Management and you never get the authentification prompt?
[06:51] <stdin> solidsource: try opening adept manager and updating from there
[06:52] <Minataku> TheDebugger: Is it caching the last time you authenticated?
[06:52] <solidsource> have done that
[06:52] <Hail_Spacecake> i installed the GNOME version of ubuntu
[06:52] <vursitis>  do you have all of your repositories enabled?
[06:52] <Minataku> I vaugely remember long ago only having to type it once
[06:52] <TheDebugger> Minataku: Doesn't look like that :/
[06:52] <Hail_Spacecake> but I like KDE better :)
[06:52] <solidsource> still reports there is an update
[06:52] <Minataku> TheDebugger: Weird
[06:52] <Hail_Spacecake> so what do I need to do to get KDE on the system?
[06:52] <logan> does anyone have  trouble with their icons' thumbnails (image files) not refreshing on the desktop after alteration?
[06:52] <Minataku> Hail_Spacecake: Install KDE
[06:52] <stdin> Hail_Spacecake: just install the package "kubuntu-desktop" that's it
[06:52] <Minataku> !kde
[06:52] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[06:53] <stdin> Hail_Spacecake: DON'T install the "kde" package
[06:53] <jessej> kdevelop is not listed in adept
[06:53] <vursitis> check your repositories
[06:53] <Hail_Spacecake> okay
[06:53] <Hail_Spacecake> but why not?
[06:53] <Hail_Spacecake> what will that do?
[06:53] <vursitis> see if all of them are enabled, and have you added the multiverse one?
[06:53] <niles> hi
[06:53] <stdin> solidsource: try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" in konsole, and post the output to pastebin ( http://pastebin.ca )
[06:53] <Minataku> Hail_Spacecake: Make your life difficult
[06:54] <Minataku> In making things easier, behind the scenes things are harder
[06:54] <jessej> i added universe with the multiverse edit just as that page directed
[06:54] <ernie> jessej - I have kdevelop listed under my Adept Manager
[06:54] <Minataku> So just do that line there
[06:54] <Minataku> !kde | Hail_Spacecake
[06:54] <ubotu> Hail_Spacecake: KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[06:54] <niles> what is the command to have my video card drivers use vesa ?
[06:54] <Minataku> Which is probably a metapackage that grabs everything that's needed
[06:54] <andres_> who knows of this error:    there was an error loading the theme human             can't open file/usr/share/gdm/themes/human/human.xml
[06:54] <niles> i pulled my hard drive out of a PC using ati drivers,  and now i need to switch to vesa.
[06:54] <flaccid> kde is part of kubuntu, Minataku
[06:55] <flaccid> Hail_Spacecake: you didn't install kubuntu desktop, only minimal?
[06:55] <stdin> Hail_Spacecake: the KDE package is the normal kde meta-package, kubuntu-desktop installed a default Kubuntu desktop, different from the KDE package
[06:55] <andres_> who helps me?
[06:55] <Hail_Spacecake> no, I installed the GNOME desktop
[06:55] <lancelot_rw> anyone knows a good Messenger client?
[06:55] <Minataku> flaccid: I know that, he wanted KDE but he installed Ubuntu
[06:55] <Minataku> Not Kubuntu
[06:55] <Hail_Spacecake> I accidentally downloaded the wrong ISO and I didn't feel like redownloading it
[06:55] <Hail_Spacecake> yes, exactly
[06:55] <stdin> andres_: that's a gnome/gdm issue, ask in #ubuntu
[06:56] <ernie> :) that would be an appropriate message for some peoples PC's - you need to install a new human :) Good title for a blog
[06:56] <flaccid> Minataku: i'm sorry i misread earlier
[06:56] <flaccid> sorry guys im' a bit drunk
[06:56] <stdin> lancelot_rw: kopete is good, and installed by default in Kubuntu
[06:56] <Minataku> flaccid: lol, np
[06:56] <lancelot_rw> stdin, is there another one?
[06:56] <Minataku> flaccid: BTW; friends don't let friends IRC drunk
[06:56] <Minataku> Give me your keyboard
[06:57] <stdin> lancelot_rw: there are a few...
[06:57] <solidsource> stdin: ok, give me sec, still waiting on a large program to finish installing
[06:57] <stdin> !messenger | lancelot_rw
[06:57] <ubotu> lancelot_rw: Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[06:57] <flaccid> Minataku: since when. i thought it was kosha
[06:57] <stdin> lancelot_rw: just search adept for "messenger"
[06:57] <Minataku> flaccid: Last time a friend of mine was on IRC when he was drunk he was deopered for his behavior
[06:58] <dawn> beryl running nice on my Dell C521
[06:58] <flaccid> Minataku: i'm not that friend of yours, i'm a different person
[06:58] <lancelot_rw> stdin, i'll try it
[06:58] <dawn> nvidia card mind you
[06:58] <flaccid> and i'm not an op
[06:59] <Minataku> flaccid: Still, bad memories for me
[06:59] <Minataku> lol
[06:59] <flaccid> its just the internet
[06:59] <dawn> how can I have same desktop icons on all 4 desktops?
[06:59] <dawn> ?
[06:59] <Minataku> That's what they all say, next thing they know their monitor is wrapped around a tree
[06:59] <niles> why do i not get a picture while installing kubuntu from a live cd,  yet i can with knoppix ?
[06:59] <ernie> Minataku :)
[06:59] <flaccid> Minataku: hehe
[06:59] <Minataku> XD
[07:00] <flaccid> i'm not drink driving IRC
[07:00] <flaccid> thats a dif story...
[07:00] <flaccid> reminds me of crank yankers
[07:00] <flaccid> niles: picture?
[07:01] <niles> no
[07:01] <darweth> Does anyone know what the dev packages I need to compile mplayer with xv and alsa are again?
[07:01] <niles> it goes so far into the installtion then my monitor stays black
[07:01] <flaccid> playboy then?
[07:01] <flaccid> niles: try the alternate cd
[07:02] <niles> what alternate CD
[07:02] <flaccid> the one available for download
[07:02] <niles> i downloaded/burned from the kubuntu website
[07:02] <flaccid> that is where you get it
[07:02] <niles> it passes md5sum
[07:02] <Minataku> There are two install images
[07:02] <flaccid> !alternate
[07:02] <ubotu> The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.
[07:02] <Minataku> Instead of the one you have, go get the other one instead
[07:02] <niles> oh ok.
[07:03] <niles> thanx guys
[07:03] <Minataku> np
[07:03] <flaccid> kubuntu installer/X has probs with some systems for some reason
[07:05] <jessej> okay i got kdevelop listed now, i had to click on "fetch updates" for it to show up
[07:05] <flaccid> ah yeah
[07:05] <flaccid> sorry jessej forgot to mention that
[07:06] <jessej> thanks for all the help anyways :)
[07:06] <flaccid> np
[07:06] <flaccid> kdevelop is nice
[07:06] <flaccid> well i just use kate
[07:07] <jessej> does kate do c++ syntax?
[07:07] <Minataku> Any self-respecting multi-language IDE with syntax highlighting does C++
[07:08] <lancelot_rw> OMG .. Kmess ... Kmess = Kmessed up !!
[07:08] <lancelot_rw> i'll use aMSN
[07:09] <ScottK> jessej: KATE will do C++ syntax hilighting.
[07:09] <jessej> i sure love kubuntu so far, a lot prettier than ubuntu and i have always liked KDE more than gnome in all my experimenting with linux
[07:09] <Minataku> I read source in Cooledit
[07:09] <Minataku> Which is a long-dead little editor
[07:09] <Minataku> At least I think it's kind of stangant, anyway
[07:10] <Minataku> I think I had to grab the source from Ibiblio and it was dated 2003 or 2004
[07:10] <Minataku> But yeah, GNOME == crap
[07:11] <ScottK> !language
[07:11] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:11] <flaccid> !crap
[07:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about crap - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:12] <flaccid> hmm someone needs to add crap to ubotu
[07:12] <jessej> i'm trying out the translucency effects under window behavior, i hope KDE 4 improves on that to really compete with what vista and os x do graphically
[07:12] <CVirus> ubotu: hey .. watch your language
[07:12] <flaccid> me too
[07:12] <ernie> This KDevelop is pretty grand :)
[07:12] <Minataku> ScottK: "Crap" is not bad language
[07:12] <flaccid> ernie: except that you cant get stuff to open in same session externally
[07:13] <Minataku> I suggest you update your bad lanugage file... yours seems to be from 1807
[07:13] <flaccid> !define bad language
[07:13] <Minataku> Then again I don't think "crap" ever was considered bad language
[07:13] <ScottK> In my opinion it's marginal, but additionally it really isn't necessary to be negative about Gnome.  I don't much care for it either, but negativity really doesn't help.
[07:13] <jessej> the stuff i read about KDE 4 sounds like it's new interface is designed to compete with vista
[07:13] <solidsource> I have have no bad language file....its all good language
[07:13] <margis> hello all
[07:13] <margis> new  user  of   linux  here
[07:14] <margis> i   have  a  problem
[07:14] <ScottK> Hello margis
[07:14] <margis> i cant   download programms  with  adept
[07:14] <Minataku> ScottK: You need to ligthen up, I'd hate to see your ears burst into flame because you left the house or turned on a TV
[07:14] <margis> why?
[07:14] <flaccid> ScottK: actually negativity is very effective....
[07:14] <stdin> does your space key stick or something ?
[07:14] <flaccid> jessej: yes marketing bullshit exists in the open world too
[07:15] <Minataku> flaccid: Now that's on the edge
[07:15] <stdin> !language | flaccid
[07:15] <Minataku> lol
[07:15] <ubotu> flaccid: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:15] <flaccid> its in the dictionary
[07:15] <margis> kanenas  na botithisei?
[07:15] <flaccid> look it up
[07:15] <margis> can anyone help me?
[07:15] <juano__> can anyone help me with an itunes ipod?
[07:15] <flaccid> my family swears lots...
[07:15] <Minataku> margis: Is there an error?
[07:15] <jessej> yes eye candy is not needed but with so much more computing power might as well make use of the extra power while doing basic tasks
[07:15] <ScottK> margis: When you try to download, what error message do you get?
[07:15] <Minataku> flaccid: Mine too
[07:15] <margis> i need to  istall  firefox and ati drivers
[07:15] <stdin> !ipod
[07:15] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto See !rockbox for information on liberating your iPod
[07:15] <flaccid> its all too subjective
[07:15] <flaccid> which means i would win in court
[07:15] <margis> scotkk wait  to see it
[07:15] <Minataku> flaccid: They're not bad words unless you ascribe them the status of bad
[07:16] <Minataku> If nobody did that they wouldn't be "bad" words
[07:16] <juano__> !rockbox
[07:16] <Minataku> They'd be words
[07:16] <ubotu> rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for MP3 players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio.  See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!
[07:16] <margis> i cant  open now  the  adept
[07:16] <flaccid> undefined things deserve arbitary responses.....
[07:16] <Minataku> Therefore, bad words do not actually exist
[07:16] <Minataku> Only words exist
[07:16] <margis> it says  that it  runs  already
[07:16] <margis> i  cant  see it
[07:16] <stdin> |aptfix
[07:16] <stdin> !aptfix
[07:16] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:16] <stdin> heh
[07:17] <flaccid> in reality there is no authority in the universe...
[07:17] <lancelot_rw> what is the command to see my kDE version ?
[07:17] <flaccid> except for the limitations of known science...
[07:17] <margis> ok wait to do this
[07:17] <stdin> lancelot_rw: kde-config --version
[07:17] <ScottK> margis: you can also just reboot the computer.
[07:17] <Minataku> Since opinion ascribes them the status of "bad", and opinion should be ignored in lieu of facts
[07:17] <dawn> so besides beryl what is there else that I can try?
[07:17] <Minataku> The fact is that they are just plain words
[07:17] <ScottK> It's not the 'best' way, but it may be the simplest if you're new to Linux
[07:17] <stdin> lancelot_rw: actually you can just put
[07:17] <Minataku> And therefore swearing is logically impossible
[07:17] <Minataku> :D
[07:17] <dawn> maybe I coulf go one step up in resolution
[07:17] <stdin> lancelot_rw: .. "--version" after any kde app
[07:18] <flaccid> the fact is that intelligience is a contradiction of terms when used in the context of human
[07:18] <manchicken> *cough*offtopic*cough*
[07:18] <flaccid> or perhaps an oxymoron
[07:18] <stdin> !offtopic | flaccid, Minataku
[07:18] <ubotu> flaccid, Minataku: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:18] <lancelot_rw> stdin, thanks.. i'll save this commands.. =)
[07:18] <jessej> i just got my new computer recently so i will be getting vista since it only costs me $10 shipping and handling and it will be the only way to play halo 2,  i have windows for gaming and kubuntu for experimenting
[07:18] <Minataku> ubotu needs a !shoveitinyourhat
[07:19] <dawn> how old is halo2?
[07:19] <makuseru> really
[07:19] <lancelot_rw> im searchin for KDE 3.5.2 thems for AMD64... anyone knows where to find? kdelook.org there're only 2 of them
[07:19] <jessej> from 2004 but this will be the pc version with higher res graphics
[07:19] <ScottK> And yet people wonder why there's no one here that knows how to answer their questions....
[07:19] <manchicken> lancelot_rw: Most of them come in either source form, or not-code form.
[07:20] <solidsource> anyone know if rockbox will still allow music to be transfered from other machines (windows or mac)?
[07:20] <margis> it says   waiting  for  headers
[07:20] <manchicken> lancelot_rw: I'd be surprised if you found too many that didn't work with amd64.
[07:20] <dawn> hmmm I have run steam - HL1 & 2 on kubuntu via wine
[07:20] <margis> why  i cant  connect to  download  from adept?
[07:20] <margis> what  happens?
[07:20] <lancelot_rw> manchicken, i try other ones..
[07:20] <Minataku> jessej: I recommend fighting for a refund on Vista
[07:20] <stdin> solidsource: yeah, it won't play DRMed files tho
[07:20] <dawn> lol
[07:20] <Minataku> Then spend the refund on XP if you really need Windows
[07:20] <kintaro0e> hello guys..how to recover password from kwallet..i forgot the password
[07:20] <manchicken> solidsource: I believe rockbox is compatible with most media players that'll work with standard non-DRM USB music devices.
[07:21] <jessej> then i won't be able to play halo 2 since ms is making it a vista only game and the cost of me getting vista is only $10
[07:21] <Minataku> jessej: Go buy a console for games
[07:21] <solidsource> don't use DRM, so I don't care about that
[07:21] <flaccid> !offtopic
[07:21] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:21] <Minataku> And tell Microsoft to piss off
[07:21] <dawn> i wrote a letter to Dell telling them that our company will not be using Vista
[07:21] <solidsource> I just want to be able to get my Toshiba Gigabeat to work with all computers
[07:21] <jessej> i have a wii as my console and my pc is for better graphics
[07:21] <kintaro0e> is there a way to recover it?
[07:21] <manchicken> solidsource: No, I'm saying the media program should support them if they support standard non-drm devices.
[07:21] <Minataku> dawn: Sweet. What company?
[07:21] <ScottK> margis: Only one program at a time can access the package database.  Currently you're package database is locked.
[07:21] <dawn> I showed the owner and CFO unbunto distros
[07:21] <margis> can any one speak to me   prive  and  lep me?
[07:22] <manchicken> solidsource: Like I don't think itunes would work with it, but I think WMP and WinAMP and the handful of Free Software media players would work.
[07:22] <dawn> small company
[07:22] <jessej> xbox 360 and ps3 overheat so wii is the only console that works for me so i need PC for other games
[07:22] <dawn> <50 ppl
[07:22] <Minataku> dawn: I must know what company, it's one I'd enjoy doing business with
[07:22] <margis> scottk  why?
[07:22] <margis> what i must  do?
[07:22] <ScottK> margis: You can clear the lock using the command you were given a few minutes ago, or just reboot the computer and it should be fine.
[07:22] <dawn> we service data centers
[07:22] <Minataku> jessej: XBox 360 only overheats if you put it in a stupid place
[07:22] <flaccid> !offtopic
[07:22] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:22] <margis> i rebooted   10 times and  the same thing
[07:22] <jessej> i had a launch day system that was well ventilated and burned out on me
[07:22] <dawn> om going to offtopic
[07:23] <margis> i cand   get programms  with adept
[07:23] <ScottK> margis: OK.  Let's give up on that idea.
[07:23] <Minataku> jessej: That's what support is for
[07:23] <manchicken> margis: What's the problem?
[07:23] <Minataku> margis: We helped you with this
[07:23] <jessej> pcs don't have these kind of heating problems
[07:23] <solidsource> manchicken: ok, but rockbox is on the MP3 player, just wondering if I will be able to transfer songs from any operating system with simple drag and drop
[07:23] <Minataku> !aptfix | margis
[07:23] <ubotu> margis: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:23] <margis> i cant   fetch  updates  on  adept
[07:23] <manchicken> solidsource: I would think so.
[07:23] <stdin> solidsource: yeah, you can, it just acts as a USB hard drive
[07:23] <ScottK> margis: Do you know how to open a command line window using Konsole?
[07:23] <Minataku> jessej: Sure they do. All it takes for a PC is for one fan to fail and BAM
[07:24] <Minataku> Out of service
[07:24] <margis> yes i know
[07:24] <solidsource> manchicken / stdin: ok, well guess its worth a shot
[07:24] <margis> i  done  it
[07:24] <margis> now?
[07:24] <ScottK> OK.  Do that
[07:24] <ScottK> Yes
[07:24] <margis> Kill process 4969 ? (y/N) y
[07:24] <jessej> but at least the are more open inside and the fans are far better than the ones i seen on the xbox 360 and i assume is better than what sony calls an efficient cooling system in ps3
[07:24] <margis> i  pressed  y
[07:24] <stdin> solidsource: then you can convert your media to ogg :)
[07:25] <ScottK> OK
[07:25] <margis> now?
[07:25] <Minataku> jessej: The PS3 is total garbage
[07:25] <ScottK> Now try this...
[07:25] <solidsource> stdin: don't use ogg, just MP3
[07:25] <manchicken> !offtopic | jessej, Minataku
[07:25] <ubotu> jessej, Minataku: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:25] <ScottK> sudo apt-get update
[07:25] <stdin> solidsource: don't use mp3, just ogg
[07:25] <margis> ok wait
[07:25] <Minataku> Stores that couldn't keep them in stock last month can't get rid of them this month
[07:25] <jessej> sorry
[07:25] <solidsource> stdin: ogg would come in conflict with my other stuff
[07:25] <stdin> solidsource: why?
[07:26] <Minataku> Agreed, sorry
[07:26] <Minataku> Personally I'm fine with unprotected MP3
[07:26] <manchicken> solidsource: If you're running rockbox, I would think flac would be your best choice.
[07:26] <margis> 0% [  archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]  [  security.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]  [  medibuntu.sos-sts.com]  [
[07:26] <margis>  http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com edgy Release.gpg
[07:26] <margis>        'medibuntu.sos-sts.com'
[07:26] <Minataku> margis: Oooh, fancy
[07:26] <Minataku> You Greek?
[07:26] <margis> yes
[07:26] <manchicken> margis: You're going to have to translate that for us.
[07:26] <Minataku> Cool
[07:27] <margis> error
[07:27] <ScottK> margis: What's the error?
[07:27] <Minataku> I'm part Greek myself, but that's getting offtopic again
[07:27] <margis> temporary fail to find  the  medibuntu
[07:27] <stdin> solidsource: I found that you can get a higher quality at a lower bitrate with ogg/vorbis and so smaller file sizes
[07:27] <Minataku> I'd guess his system is having network issues
[07:27] <solidsource> I use MP3 because my friends use windows and also my stereo can't read OGG files, only MP3/WMA
[07:27] <Minataku> Look at the IP
[07:27] <Minataku> <IP_ADDRESS> is NOT valid
[07:27] <margis> it is  <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:27] <margis> why?
[07:27] <stdin> looks like a DNS error
[07:27] <margis> how i change this?
[07:27] <jessej> i best be going now, happy kubuntu using
[07:28] <manchicken> margis: Where'd you get that source from?
[07:28] <Minataku> I'm not versed in DNS, sorry
[07:28] <ScottK> margis: Are you connected now on your Kubuntu machine?
[07:28] <manchicken> margis: In your /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:28] <margis> and  what  i must do now?
[07:28] <Minataku> I just know well enough that <IP_ADDRESS> is garbage
[07:28] <margis> i  have corect  sources
[07:28] <margis> i am sure
[07:29] <manchicken> margis: Either your source is incorrect or you're having network difficulties.
[07:29] <stdin> try restarting the network, sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[07:29] <margis> when i searchfor  programs     i  find  them
[07:29] <manchicken> Later.
[07:29] <margis> but  i cant  download
[07:29] <ScottK> margis: Something is obviously wrong and so checking your sources is a good next step
[07:29] <margis> i can  update  wallpapers  themes etc
[07:29] <margis> but  no programms
[07:29] <ScottK> Open the file /etc/apt/sources.list and copy it to pastebin so we can check it.
[07:29] <Minataku> margis: You're definitely having a network issue, I think, if not that, something is screwed somewhere
[07:29] <ScottK> !pastebin
[07:29] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:30] <margis> can i  paste them here?\
[07:30] <margis> or  get baned?
[07:30] <Minataku> NO. Put them in a pastebin