[10:21]  * slashtom would like to float an idea regarding the ubuntu hour...
[10:22] <czajkowski> aloha
[10:22] <slashtom> hey cztab, how's the craic?
[10:23] <czajkowski> ntb
[10:23] <czajkowski> how's life with you?
[10:23] <slashtom> grand, we're back from our summer holidays
[10:24] <czajkowski> nice
[10:24] <slashtom> are you coming to dublin on your visit?
[10:26] <czajkowski> not sure tbh
[10:26] <czajkowski> I'm back for 10 days
[10:27] <czajkowski> and I think this time less running around is needed
[10:27] <slashtom> anyways, my idea for the ubuntu hour was that we could change the venue and time to better accommodate those who cannot or do not wish to enter a licenced premises, and where mid-week may be an issue
[10:30] <czajkowski> could do
[10:30] <czajkowski> aye
[10:31] <czajkowski> what ever works well tbh
[10:31] <slashtom> aye, enjoy. hope the weather stays good for you in lahinch
[10:31] <ebel> yeah
[10:31] <ebel> czajkowski: you back now?
[10:31] <czajkowski> I will say that the venue is great imo, but that's just me, maybe tweeking the day/time might help
[10:31] <czajkowski> ebel: nope, not till the 23rd
[10:32] <slashtom> i have a few problems with the venue, the food choice is very poor if you don't eat meat, and from a non-selfish point of view, we're excluded all under 18's and anyone who doesn't want to enter a licenced premises
[10:32] <ebel> usually not too much of a problem.
[10:33] <slashtom> which isn't ebel?
[10:33] <czajkowski> slashtom: I'll agree with you the menu choice for you isn't great
[10:33] <czajkowski> but we've never had an issue with under 18's
[10:33] <ebel> hehe, I was remarking to slashtom yesterday that many floss groups want to keep venues/events friendly to women and yet have meet ups in bars which is quite muslim hostile :P
[10:33] <slashtom> that's because we meet in a pub and they're not allowed
[10:33] <czajkowski> and it's a hotel so it's ok to have them there, where as if you were in a bar/pub it would be an isue
[10:34] <ebel> I mean the licenced premisis issue.
[10:34] <slashtom> we have had under 18s to a geeknic before
[10:34] <czajkowski> but again I'm not there so not my call
[10:34] <ebel> though 50% of the population are women, and <<<<50% are muslim
[10:35] <czajkowski> ebel: I know pub meet ups don't go down with women in some counteries mostly eastern and even in some usa folks I know
[10:35] <czajkowski> but yer call
[10:35] <ebel> course you wanna go down that route we'd have to think about when ramadan is on, and when lent is on, etc....
[10:35] <czajkowski> what ever ye do is your choice tbh
[10:35] <czajkowski> aye
[10:35] <slashtom> aye, i thought i would float the idea in channel first
[10:36] <ebel> czajkowski: oh i don't really care too much about the pub issue. Just depends on how pedantic you want to be. I think there's a Life of Brian skit about that :P
[10:36] <czajkowski> no I agree if you feel the venue/date/time isn't suiting you should change it
[10:36] <slashtom> my suggestion would be to meet on a saturday lunch/afternoon in a coffee shop
[10:36] <czajkowski> weekends either suit some or not others.
[10:36] <czajkowski> at the end of the day
[10:36] <czajkowski> there is no best day that will get everyone
[10:36] <czajkowski> :)
[10:36] <ebel> course we don't decide on things on abelist grounds either... how wheelchair friendly are we.... etc.
[10:36] <slashtom> suits you well if you live/work in town
[10:36] <ebel> the rabbit hole never ends...
[10:37] <czajkowski> yup
[10:37] <czajkowski> if you start to rule out places due to x y z the list will never ed
[10:37] <czajkowski> *end
[10:37] <czajkowski> but as I say
[10:37] <czajkowski> I'm not there
[10:37] <czajkowski> not my call
[10:37] <czajkowski> :)
[10:37] <slashtom> i used to work out past clonee, that was a pain getting into town for 6pm - i would always be late
[10:38] <slashtom> i also feel that the current type of location and time is on similar ground with the ILUG PoTD
[10:38] <slashtom> why not be different, and expand the scope of the linux community?
[10:38] <czajkowski> yup
[10:38] <czajkowski> can do
[10:39] <ebel> course, do we want to exclude travellers?
[10:39] <ebel> I don't know any travellers, isn't that weird...
[10:40] <slashtom> ebel: i'm not suggesting a sunday, which would clash with the horse fair ;)
[10:40] <ebel> would some venues de facto exclude travellers, do they? wonder if we have a "traveller friendly venue" :P
[10:40] <ebel> course this isn't something that's happened yet :P
[10:41] <tdr112> how about a ubuntu hour on a sat morning , 11 or some thing
[10:41]  * ebel comes back from his tangent to a real conversation :P
[10:41] <slashtom> aye, that's the sort of thing tdr112
[10:42] <ebel> yeah saturday lunch time. go to a café, get some lunch/coffee
[10:43]  * slashtom has memories of being one of the only geeks at school... so i think it would be good to be accessible to a larger audience
[10:43] <czajkowski> just note, if people have families kids hobbies, that weekends tend not to work
[10:43] <czajkowski> often easier to stay out after work for 1/2 jars and chat than leave home on a saturday when kids and parties are on
[10:44] <czajkowski> just my 2 cent
[10:44] <slashtom> the current wedneday in trinity capital hotel isn't working either
[10:44] <ebel> would weekends work for teenagers?
[10:44] <czajkowski> yup fair enough.
[10:44] <tdr112> lets try a few and see if they work better
[10:44] <ebel> easier for teenagers to go into town on a saturday afternoon than go to a pub on a school night.
[10:44] <ebel> suits different people
[10:44] <slashtom> aye, tdr112. i will send an email out to the mailing list later today on the subjet
[10:47] <tdr112> we need to get the emails/blog/tweets out about the picnic
[10:48] <czajkowski> tdr112: if you mail me details I'll add it to mine
[10:49] <slashtom> have you got a location or a big penguin ready for easy location within St Stephens Green?
[15:06]  * slashtom emails the group... maybe it takes a non-irishman to suggest moving out of the pub :)
[15:07] <czajkowski> slashtom: :)
[15:08] <czajkowski> slashtom: just looking at the list of our members I don't notice any large portion or even any minors on the list
[15:08] <czajkowski> but maybe looking at another day/time is a good idea
[15:08] <czajkowski> best of luck :)
[15:08] <czajkowski> nice to have a bit of change
[15:09] <ebel> Tis all just eastern europeans like your self czajkowski  :P
[15:09] <czajkowski> hey blame WWII for my surname
[15:09] <czajkowski> born in UK, lived there for 12 months, and then 30 years in ireland :)
[15:09] <czajkowski> I'm irish
[15:10] <czajkowski> I have no aligance to easten europe one bit
[15:10] <slashtom> tell that to everyone trying to pronounce "cztab" ;)
[15:11] <czajkowski> although http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Czajkowski is my grandfather
[15:11] <slashtom> does the mailing list even store information like DoB?
[15:12] <czajkowski> nope but going by pictures and people I know
[15:12] <czajkowski> ML doesnt ask for DOB
[15:12] <czajkowski> and the grandfather married then divorced and moved back to Poland and didnt settle in UK
[15:15] <czajkowski> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-ie/+mugshots
[15:15] <czajkowski> 118 members
[15:15] <czajkowski> and 5 pending
[15:15] <ebel> czajkowski: Oh I know, I'm just joking with you. :)
[15:15] <czajkowski> touchy subject
[15:15] <czajkowski> I had no issue for so much of my life
[15:15] <slashtom> Bonglord looks very young
[15:15] <czajkowski> then the influx of pols coming in
[15:15] <czajkowski> I got lumped into same bunch
[15:15] <czajkowski> didnt like it
[15:15] <ebel> You're well Irish in my book.
[15:16] <czajkowski> slashtom: that's an 70/80s job pic
[15:16] <czajkowski> I guess we get some young new members like 1st year students come september
[15:16] <czajkowski> but most are 18 starting uni over here
[15:16] <czajkowski> or turning soon
[15:16] <slashtom> aye
[15:16] <czajkowski> I think ya have to do what ye feel is right
[15:17] <tdr112> wow that is a great quote Being a doctor is very depressing.
[15:17] <czajkowski> it's none of my business. I just know people don't like giving up weekends much :/
[15:17] <ebel> anyways, tis always interesting to try to open things up, attrack people who may or may not be able to come
[15:17] <slashtom> i'm not on that list
[15:17] <ebel> sure we'll see what happens.
[15:17] <tdr112> reading all about Mr czajkowski
[15:18] <slashtom> most people aren't willing to give up a wednesday either!
[15:18] <czajkowski> slashtom: did you join the team ?
[15:18] <czajkowski> ebel: exactly
[15:18] <czajkowski> tdr112: I've no polite opinion of the man
[15:18] <czajkowski> he's related by blood and that's it
[15:19] <slashtom> i signed up to the mailing list, i didn't realise i had more to do
[15:20] <ebel> slashtom: launchpad has teams
[15:20] <czajkowski> slashtom: yeah join the team :)
[15:20] <czajkowski> be one of us
[15:20] <czajkowski> ok
[15:20] <czajkowski> hve got to get a cold shower
[15:20] <czajkowski> it's BOILING HOT HERE
[15:20] <czajkowski> toodles folks
[15:21] <czajkowski> tdr112: mail me geeknic info
[23:41] <royan> 'morning.
[23:42] <moylan> tis
[23:46] <royan> Looking for a hint. Trying to install using 10.10 LiveCD, but it gets OOM before reaching desktop, so I'm thinking I might add some usb swap just to get the install going; but how do you interrupt to a shell and then continue?
[23:47] <moylan> how much ram has the system got?
[23:47] <royan> can you set swap in a boot option?
[23:47] <royan> euw, about 256M, minus some for shared gfx
[23:48] <royan> if I switch to a console, I can see the oom killer in action
[23:50] <moylan> that is a little light alright.
[23:51] <moylan> only thing i can see for swap space is; http://codeidol.com/unix/ubuntu/Getting-Started/Customize-the-Ubuntu-Live-CD/
[23:52] <royan> I saw that, the swap considerations there are for a machine /creating/ a CD, not for the target host.


[00:12] <rr72> ok so ubuntu live cd will change my brightness but it won't on my xubuntu install, any ideas?
[00:30] <freaky[t]> hi all is anybody familiar with gigolo? im trying to mount a remote location over ssh. but it always opens / on the remote machine not /home/myuser/ and i couldnt find any setting for setting the start remote folder
[00:34] <_Techie_> freaky[t]: is it too much to navigate to /home/user/?
[00:34] <freaky[t]> every time, if it can be automated - yes :)
[00:35] <_Techie_> this gigolo, is it a mounter or a browser?
[00:36] <rr72> freaky[t]~ your gigolo works for remote connections?! did you do anything special? mind doesn't work
[00:38] <_Techie_> 13 more minutes then i can finally boot back into windows and use my system again
[00:40] <_Techie_> if i had known gparted would take 6 hours a pop to resize and move my partitions i wouldnt have bothered
[00:40] <freaky[t]> rr72, yes ill explain you wait a moment
[00:40] <freaky[t]> mounter
[00:41] <freaky[t]> i think it stores remote locations at least theres an option for it i gotta test but ill first help rr72
[00:41] <_Techie_> freaky[t]: you could just make a symlink to the folder within the mount location
[00:41] <freaky[t]> _Techie_, no that's not the usual way ;p
[00:41] <freaky[t]> and i still have to make 1 extra click then
[00:41] <_Techie_> freaky[t]: haha
[00:42] <freaky[t]> http://www.uvena.de/gigolo/help.html#open-resources-in-thunar-on-xfce-4-4-and-4-6 @ rr72
[00:42] <_Techie_> freaky[t]: you could always make a bash script to mount it and open up your browser
[00:43] <freaky[t]> hm ill have a closer look soon
[00:43] <_Techie_> sorry about the fact that all my answers dont actually fix the problem, they only work around it
[00:43] <freaky[t]> hehe no problem ;D
[00:44] <freaky[t]> i can't find an answer also
[00:45] <freaky[t]> i just noticed it doesnt save the last remote location =(
[00:45] <rr72> cause i get gnome obexftp issues when i try
[00:45] <rr72> wait sorry, wrong bug
[00:46] <rr72> i can't open an application
[00:46] <freaky[t]> rr72, what do you mean?
[00:47] <rr72> error opening location: No application is registered as handling this file
[00:48] <rr72> gvfs-open: <HOST>: error opening location: No application is registered as handling this file
[00:50] <freaky[t]> did u do what they say in that tutorial i gave u a link to?
[00:51] <freaky[t]> ah
[00:51] <freaky[t]> relog
[00:51] <freaky[t]> maybe tht helps
[00:51] <freaky[t]> log out and back in
[00:51] <rr72> no lol
[00:51] <rr72> i didnt read it lol ROFL
[00:51] <freaky[t]> then do what they say
[00:51] <rr72> i am doing it!!!!!!!!! GAWRD!!!!!!!!  I don't want to have to open a terminal to mount FTP/SSH every time.
[01:16] <FrozenFire[work]> Wait, sorry. I just found "Remote Filesystems"
[01:17] <freaky[t]> FrozenFire[work], yea ... it wont work as-is in xfce
[01:17] <freaky[t]> but i can give you a link to make it work with thunar
[01:17] <freaky[t]> (the xfce file manager)
[01:18] <_Techie_> freaky[t], i guess ive got 1 up on ya then, im running pure ubuntu
[01:18] <_Techie_> brb
[01:18] <_Techie_> gotta restart
[01:18] <freaky[t]> http://www.uvena.de/gigolo/help.html#open-resources-in-thunar-on-xfce-4-4-and-4-6
[01:18] <freaky[t]> ok
[01:18] <freaky[t]> ill wait ;D
[01:19] <freaky[t]> FrozenFire[work], you got the problem that your bookmarks dont open up any filemanager?
[01:19] <FrozenFire[work]> freaky[t], Yeah, just hit that :P
[01:19] <freaky[t]> FrozenFire[work], http://www.uvena.de/gigolo/help.html#open-resources-in-thunar-on-xfce-4-4-and-4-6
[01:20] <FrozenFire[work]> Thanks
[01:20] <freaky[t]> np ;D
[01:20] <freaky[t]> FrozenFire[work], the thing you manage remote bookmarks with is called "gigolo" ;)
[01:34] <_Techie_> im soo happy
[01:35] <freaky[t]> _Techie_, ^^
[01:35] <freaky[t]> i miss a lot of stuff on xubuntu
[01:36] <freaky[t]> like a notes application, calendar ... etc.
[01:37] <freaky[t]> but i also like xubuntu
[01:37] <freaky[t]> :/
[01:45] <lcb> hi. please someone help me how to restore top and bottom panels from the desktop? for some reason they vanished from there.
[01:46] <_Techie_> alt + f2    xfce-panel
[01:46] <lcb> panel link on settings is not working
[01:46] <likemindead> That seems to be happening to folks a lot. :-\
[01:46] <_Techie_> your not the first and you wont be the last
[01:46] <likemindead> Hasn't happened to me in over a year, though. Huh...
[01:46] <lcb> ok _Techie_ , iḿ  trying. thanks
[01:46] <rr72> freaky[t]~ a live cd works for my brightness control but my install won'e
[01:46] <freaky[t]> rr72, cant help you there sorry
[01:47] <freaky[t]> lcb, did u relog since then?
[01:47] <lcb> yes freaky[t]
[01:47] <freaky[t]> hm didnt happen to me yet but im using xubuntu since only 2 hours lol
[01:48] <lcb> after trying to solve without it
[01:48] <lcb> freaky[t], , i love it and i recommend it and i believe this happened due to some sort of pc problem with keyboard
[01:49] <freaky[t]> no idea
[01:49] <lcb> at times starts writing zzzz s with no reason
[01:50] <lcb> well, let me try what _Techie_ suggested before. tks _Techie_
[01:52] <lcb> hmmm "the command xfce-panel failed to run. failed to execute child process xfce-panel (no such file or directory)"
[01:53] <lcb> how to recover system essentials??
[01:54] <_Techie_> it might be xfce4-panel, i dont actually run xubuntu myself so im not 100% sure
[01:55] <lcb> _Techie_,  thank you so much. it worked!
[01:55] <lcb> it is indeed xfce4-panel
[01:55] <lcb> tks a lot
[01:55] <_Techie_> no problem
[01:55] <lcb> )
[01:55] <lcb> :)
[01:55] <rr72> _Techie_~ any ideas about brightness control on a laptop? it works on live cd but not 9.10 install
[01:56] <_Techie_> is the livecd plain ubuntu, or is that xubuntu aswell?
[01:56] <rr72> works on both of them
[01:58] <lcb> rr72, i just did a search on add/remove applications under "bright" and you have there some utilities
[01:59] <rr72> it might be a preprtary driver issue with nvidia?
[02:00] <lcb> try "Monitor Settings" application, for instance
[02:00] <rr72> it comes up on the notification area though
[02:03] <lcb> rr72, "NVIDIA X Server Settings" utility (i'm not an expert in any way, if the monitor or any device in the surrounds explodes it's your responsibility )
[02:03] <rr72> brb going to see if i uninstall the nvidia drivers works
[02:04] <rr72> i can set it via CLI
[02:04] <rr72> just not through the buttons
[02:07] <freaky[t]> ill reboot into windows now my laptop just shut itself off again because of overheating
[02:07] <freaky[t]> i dont know - that with xfce
[02:07] <freaky[t]> without doing anything
[02:07] <freaky[t]> i think i need a new laptop
[02:09] <lcb> back to fuse some devices, like router, microwave and wife. I owe you one _Techie_. bbl
[02:09] <_Techie_> lcb, no you dont
[02:11] <lcb> _Techie_,  ido... i know what is helping other on this media :) it's grateful when someone recognize simple gestures, ideas, suggestions from ppl on these help channels.  :)
[02:18] <_Techie_> anyway, im gonna go play some fallout3
[02:20] <rr72> freaky[t]~ i think it is the nvidia drivers, as no it works
[02:20] <freaky[t]> ?
[02:20] <rr72> now*
[02:20] <freaky[t]> im on windows
[02:20] <rr72> lemme install them again and see if they don't work
[02:59] <Oceanwatcher> Hi everyone.
[03:00] <Oceanwatcher> I just finished installing Xubuntu for a friend. I made a login for myself (as admin) and would like to hide it from the login screen. How can I do that?
[03:00] <Oceanwatcher> I have found no place to control the login screen
[03:02] <likemindead> Not sure, Oceanwatcher. Sorry. I use auto-login.
[03:21] <rr72> I I am going to ask in ubuntu tomorrow about my problem
[03:21] <rr72> thankyou all for the help
[03:28] <Oceanwatcher> likemindead: Thx.
[03:29] <Oceanwatcher> I just need to exclude my own login to avoid confusion. Actually, the 9.04 style login was better than the 9.10 login in my opinion. Less cluttered and to the point.
[03:46] <crlsktr> hello?
[03:46] <crlsktr> can someone help me?
[03:47] <crlsktr> hello?
[03:47] <cody-somerville> crlsktr, just ask your question
[03:47] <crlsktr> i have a problem trying to burn an audio cd in brasero
[03:48] <crlsktr> well i just have installed xubuntu 9.10
[03:48] <crlsktr> but i think i haven't installed mp3 support
[04:10] <crlsktr> can you help me ?
[04:11] <crlsktr> it says something like
[04:11] <crlsktr>  file.mp3 is not a valid audio or video file
[04:12] <crlsktr> and it's completely ridiculous 'cos i can play the file and hear it
[04:46] <ironfoot495> I have a serious problem I have the info to change grub to grub2 but I first have to get system to boot which is hanging and has been hung for a few days.!!
[04:46] <ironfoot495> can someone please help me cure this?
[04:46] <ironfoot495> xubuntu 9.10
[11:24] <Balsaq> Howdy Troutspa1n
[11:26] <Troutspa1n> hi there
[11:27] <Troutspa1n> I need to register.
[11:27] <Balsaq> 10-4
[11:27] <Balsaq> do you know how
[11:27] <Troutspa1n> yes
[11:28] <Balsaq> cool
[11:28] <Balsaq> yeah i did it...why not
[14:41] <mantis_> anyone here hosting VM's on XB within 64bits?
[14:44] <_Pete_> I have
[15:17] <Billy_buntu> Hey, do you think Xubuntu 9.10 is stable?
[15:17] <tavasti> for me it is
[15:18] <Billy_buntu> It just froze when I used the update manager on my usb installation.
[15:18] <Billy_buntu> now firefox won't open and no update manager.
[15:18] <Billy_buntu> not stable.
[15:19] <Billy_buntu> I didn't have this problem with 9.04
[15:19] <tavasti> same setup, running on usb-drive?
[15:20] <Billy_buntu> yes.  it downloaded the updates, but froze when installing them.
[15:20] <tavasti> is that usb stick or real hd?
[15:20] <Billy_buntu> usb flash drive.
[15:21] <Sysi> version update or normal updates?
[15:21] <Billy_buntu> normal.
[15:21] <Billy_buntu> the synaptic package manager's not working now.
[15:21] <Billy_buntu> it says:  E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[15:22] <Billy_buntu> billy buntu is not impressed.
[15:22] <Billy_buntu> I spent ages installing it..now this happens..
[15:23] <Billy_buntu> looks like a complete reinstall...unless I get a fix.
[15:23] <Billy_buntu> how do I reset update & synaptic managers?
[15:24] <Billy_buntu> where's the reset button ?
[15:24] <Billy_buntu> the emergency default button?
[15:25] <Sysi> dpkg --reconfigure-a is commonly working fix
[15:25] <Billy_buntu> ok..I'll try that.
[15:25] <Sysi> sudo in front propably
[15:25] <Billy_buntu>  ok
[15:28] <Billy_buntu> it said "command not found"   Did you mean: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[15:30] <Billy_buntu> sorry I made a typing error!
[15:30] <Billy_buntu> it's working now.. at least showing something...wait
[15:32] <Billy_buntu> it gave me a pile of options..what now ?
[15:36] <Billy_buntu> I opened synaptic package manager & got this error:   E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[15:36] <Sysi> run that?
[15:37] <Billy_buntu> I tried...didn't work.
[15:37] <tavasti> _cache->open() failed, flashdrive corruption?
[15:37] <tavasti> end-of-life flash?
[15:37] <Billy_buntu> It's a fairly new flash drive.
[15:38] <Billy_buntu> It froze during the update...I assume it didn't complete the installation and logs.
[15:38] <Billy_buntu> so the new updates have not been recognized.
[15:39] <Billy_buntu> i tried the dpkg command and it said:  dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0000' near line 0:
[15:39] <Billy_buntu>  newline in field name `/bin/sh'
[15:40] <tavasti> what filesystem you have there?
[15:41] <tavasti> and is there some reason why would filesystem be corrupted?
[15:41] <Billy_buntu> don't know..I used the usb creator to format the flash drive and install xubuntu.
[15:41] <Billy_buntu> then i used the update manager & it froze during installation.
[15:42] <Billy_buntu> *the update installation froze
[15:42] <Sysi> so it's actually a live-usb?
[15:42] <Billy_buntu> yes.  a live persistant usb
[15:43] <Sysi> well, then it's not actually installed
[15:43] <Sysi> you can make real installation for usb also
[15:43] <Billy_buntu> how ?
[15:44] <Sysi> hmm, i wonder if there are instructions somewhere
[15:44] <Billy_buntu> pendrive linux has instructions, but you need windows and a special tool.
[15:45] <Sysi> iirc it needs a bit configuring if you want to boot also without usb-stick
[15:45] <Billy_buntu> ok.
[15:46] <Billy_buntu> I used the xubuntu live cd: Applications >> System >> usb startup disk creator.
[15:47] <Billy_buntu> it installed a casper-rw file (4 gigs)
[15:47] <Sysi> hmm, i can't remember if there was something other than placing /boot to hard disc
[15:48] <Sysi> but this is same as in ubuntu, you can ask also from #ubuntu
[15:48] <Billy_buntu> ok.
[15:48] <Sysi> if here isn't anyone wiser than me :b
[15:49] <Billy_buntu> I might create my own capser-rw file  (that's the partition file that saves information)
[15:50] <Billy_buntu> I have instructions.. I'll do it manually.
[15:50] <Billy_buntu> xubuntu uses ext3 file system right ?
[15:51] <Billy_buntu> or ext2 ?
[15:51] <Billy_buntu> use gparted to find out.. I'll check
[15:52] <Billy_buntu> I need to make sure casper-rw is formatted to the correct file type.
[15:53] <Sysi> ubuntu can use manu filesystems
[15:53] <Billy_buntu> but the casper-rw file...does it need a particular file type ?
[15:54] <Billy_buntu> my instructions said to use ext3.
[15:57] <Billy_buntu> the problem could be  "USB startup disk creator"  formatted casper-rw as ext2, when it should have been ext3..
[15:58] <Billy_buntu> because ext3 worked fine in my usb xubuntu 9.04
[15:58] <Sysi> my livesystems have always been on fat32
[15:59] <Billy_buntu> yes I know that...but the capser-rw file should be formatted to ext3
[15:59] <Billy_buntu> that's how it's done in 9.04
[15:59] <Sysi> hmm, i never use usb for longer times so idk
[16:00] <Billy_buntu> the capser-rw file saves your changes...it has to be formated to ext3,  even though the rest of the usb drive is fat32.
[16:00] <Sysi> even though that proper installation was a bit hard because of stupid oem xp
[16:02] <Billy_buntu> does your hard drive installation of 9.10 work ok ?
[16:03] <Billy_buntu> have you tried the update manager ?
[16:03] <Billy_buntu> there should be about 80 updates
[16:03] <Billy_buntu> download the updates..and see if it works..
[16:03] <Billy_buntu> then try downloading a game with synaptic package manager.
[16:04] <Billy_buntu> (if you dare !!)
[16:04] <Sysi> i'm not sure if liveystem is ment to be updated
[16:04] <Sysi> i have working 9.10 in three computers
[16:04] <Billy_buntu> << is not liable for any damage to your system..
[16:05] <Billy_buntu> it's not a live cd... I'm talking about a hard drive installation of 9.10
[16:05] <Billy_buntu> does your hard drive installation update with update manager ?
[16:05] <Sysi> yes, all of them work great
[16:06] <Billy_buntu> ok..
[16:06] <Sysi> only mute-problems with sound
[16:06] <Billy_buntu> did you configure the mixer ?
[16:07] <Billy_buntu> applications >> multimedia >> mixer
[16:07] <Sysi> that's common bug
[16:07] <Billy_buntu> turn up the volume
[16:07] <Billy_buntu> it worked for me.
[16:07] <Sysi> but it isn't issue
[16:07] <Billy_buntu> I played youtube videos with sound no problems.
[16:07] <Sysi> back on mute after reboot
[16:07] <Sysi> but i very rarely reboot
[16:07] <Sysi> and at school sound needs to be muted :P
[16:08] <Billy_buntu> ok. well that's strange because the sound on my 9.10 works fine.
[16:09] <Billy_buntu> maybe it disagrees with your sound hardware.
[16:09] <Sysi> ofc they work when you turn volume up
[16:09] <Sysi> but as said, that's not issue for me
[16:10] <Billy_buntu> ok.
[16:11] <Billy_buntu> I'll use windows to install 9.10 to my usb drive and see if it works any better.
[16:12] <Billy_buntu> there's a windows tool that creates a persistant usb installation of xubuntu 9.10
[16:14] <Billy_buntu> or...I could use "usb disk startup creator"  then reformat casper-rw to ext3.
[16:16] <Billy_buntu> thanks for putting up with my rambling..
[16:18] <Billy_buntu> I'll use the live cd to install 9.10 to my usb flash.  then reformat casper-rw to ext3.
[16:19] <Billy_buntu> bye
[17:58] <Anomos>  i try to access some shared files in windows vista machine from my kubuntu machine. but when i try to open it through samba shares, it asks for credentials...? what credentials do i need?
[18:01] <likemindead> !ntfs | Anomos
[18:02] <Anomos> 2 differenet machiensc
[18:02] <Anomos> connected with ethernet
[18:02] <likemindead> !samba | Anomos
[18:03] <Anomos> ok
[18:38] <francesco_> I am having troubles with a linksys wpc54gs ver 2 card
[18:38] <francesco_> i installed the driver with ndiswrapper
[18:39] <francesco_> but the card is not recognized
[18:39] <francesco_> has anybody else had this problem
[18:41] <likemindead> Sorry, francesco_, I bought a cheap Intel card off of eBay so I wouldn't have to mess with ndiswrapper. :-\
[18:44] <francesco_> thats ok...any clues on how to make the card detectable?
[18:46] <likemindead> !ndiswrapper
[18:46] <likemindead> :-\
[18:47] <likemindead> I don't like dongles anyhow, so I went the cheap, well-supported mini-PCI card via eBay. :-)
[18:48] <francesco_> how much did one of those run you
[18:48] <likemindead> Intel PRO 2200 card was like $12 + $4 shipping. This was awhile back.
[18:48] <likemindead> Let me check for you.
[18:49] <francesco_> thank you ubottu
[18:49] <francesco_> thanks
[18:49] <likemindead> BAMP! http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Pro-Wireless-G-2200BG-2200-MINI-PCI-802-11g-Card_W0QQitemZ270487024043QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3efa4871ab
[18:49] <likemindead> ;-)
[18:50] <likemindead> Should work as long as your laptop has a mini-PCI port.
[18:56] <mnemoc> hi, can one "logout" from command line? (ssh)
[18:57] <likemindead> I believe "sudo powerdown" will do it, mnemoc.
[18:57] <francesco_> thank you likemindead
[18:57] <mnemoc> likemindead: powerdown? :)
[18:58] <mnemoc> likemindead: you probably mean poweroff... but no, i need to backup the home of that person
[18:58] <likemindead> OOOOhhhh...
[18:58] <mnemoc> and i don't want to back it up "hot"
[18:59] <likemindead> Hmm. Reboot into a CLI?
[18:59] <mnemoc> so i can't ask..... xfce4-session? to log off the guy?
[19:01] <mnemoc> well... shooting time :) killall firefox ...
[19:01] <likemindead> Sorry, I'm not sure, mnemoc.
[19:01] <mnemoc> likemindead: np ... it was just a "hope" :)
[19:01] <mnemoc> thanks anyway
[19:09] <likemindead> Hey, mnemoc, try the folks in #xfce ?
[19:12] <mnemoc> likemindead: good idea
[19:28] <mnemoc> likemindead: DISPLAY=:0.0 xfce4-session-logout --logout    :)
[19:30] <mnemoc> bye :)
[20:00] <fooka1> hello.  havent been able to sync tomboy notes with ubuntuone since upgrading to karmic
[20:00] <fooka1> supposedly because default browser is not set
[20:00] <fooka1> although it is
[20:00] <fooka1> anyone got hints/ideas?
[20:05] <Captain_Haddock> I have Kubuntu Karmic installed.. installing XFCE is just a "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" away, right?
[20:05] <Sysi> yes
[20:05] <renata> hello, i am new to xubuntu, I have installed karmic only today, and I have extreme trouble setting shortcuts, especially in sound ajustment on my laptop. please help
[20:07] <Captain_Haddock> Sysi: is there an option to keep things lightweight? I don't particularly want abiword, and stuff like gnome-sudoku ...
[20:08] <Sysi> it's also possible to just install xfce
[20:08] <Captain_Haddock> Sysi: sudo apt-get install xfce ?
[20:08] <Sysi> i'd guess it takes everything needed with it
[20:08] <Sysi> seems to be xfce4
[20:09] <Captain_Haddock> xfwm4?
[20:10] <Sysi> my apt-get finds xfce4 package
[20:23] <renata> I would appreaciate help with sound mixer. I want to assign shortcuts and have no idea how to do that, thanks
[20:47] <Captain_Haddock> Sysi: mine does too - thanks for looking.
[20:47] <Sysi> np
[20:52] <fatih2> hi, i have installed xubuntu 9.10 and i have ati radeon 9200. how can i understand my system has 3d support?
[20:53] <fatih2> when i type glxinfo | grep -i "direct rendering" it says command not found.
[20:53] <Sysi> try just run glxgears
[20:54] <fatih2> thanks. i type it  glxgears but command not found.
[20:54] <renata> hello, I have problems with sound mixer, I would appreciate help. I have just installed karma and the sound icon is strange, shortcuts are not working. thanks
[20:55] <Sysi> fatih2: it should come by default but install it if not
[20:55] <fatih2> sysi: ok thanks. i will.
[21:12] <KindOne> Just installed the lastest version of Xubuntu. When i open a program, it does not have a menu bar thing, and i can not move it around. How can I fix this ?
[21:17] <knome> KindOne, try pressing alt and while pressing click+drag
[21:21] <KindOne> nothing...
[21:21] <knome> well, that definitely should work
[21:23] <KindOne> ill upload a image of my problem
[21:27] <KindOne> http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2rf7btc&s=6
[21:30] <KindOne> any clue how to fix that?
[21:44] <schizoTK> Hello Xubuntu Gurus!
[21:46] <schizoTK> Seeking to edit BOOT.INI on a copied fat32 partition while booted into xubuntu
[21:48] <schizoTK> Looked all over the forums, etc.
[21:49] <schizoTK> Googled since 4 am
[21:49] <schizoTK> How can I edit files on another partition?
[21:50] <schizoTK> From Terminal, how would I access files on /dev/sda8
[21:50] <schizoTK> if I'm currently in /dev/sda3
[21:59] <knome> schizoTK, mount the partition
[21:59] <knome> !mount
[22:11] <schizoTK> In Gparted it says the partition is already mounted
[22:12] <schizoTK> fdisk -l shows the following for the partition in question
[22:12] <schizoTK> /dev/sda8            2026        3504    11880004+   b  W95 FAT32
[22:13] <schizoTK> How do I navigate to the mount point?
[22:25] <schizoTK> OK, Thanks! I got it!
[22:25] <schizoTK> I had to edit /etc/fstab
[22:26] <schizoTK> Thanks once again for answering my newB?
[22:28] <knome> well, that wasn't a totally novice question
[22:30] <schizoTK> I'm trying to edit c:\BOOT.INI on a WinXP partition I copied, and now I can't see the file in question!!! { LoL }
[22:31] <schizoTK> I can see the other files, so maybe I need to look for another?
[22:33] <schizoTK> I've been computing since 1994, but had years where I never touched a PC
[22:34] <schizoTK> Where I live, there are no utilities, no cable, no electricity, no telephone,
[22:35] <schizoTK> So I have only been on the web for a year or two
[22:36] <schizoTK> Only been using linux for about 6 months
[22:38] <schizoTK> I have to say, I am very happy with the Ubuntu foundation, and all of the people who have worked so hard to give to the world this amazing OS
[22:38] <schizoTK> For Free!
[22:40] <knome> :)


[04:19] <mozzarella> I want to try ubuntu touch
[04:19] <mozzarella> but I don't have a phone
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> !devices | mozzarella
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> mozzarella: there is an ubuntu-touch emulator for ubuntu also
[04:19] <mozzarella> lotuspsychje: where
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> mozzarella: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Emulator
[14:05] <jelkner> Do I need to put my phone in developer mode to access it with adb shell?
[14:06] <jelkner> My phone is connected to my computer, but adb devices shows nothing.
[14:15] <jelkner> It mounts on my 14.04 desktop, and I see a directory named Nexus 4 that has the phone's files.
[14:15] <jelkner> I'm trying to figure out how to get GPS data from the phone.
[14:16] <jelkner> I want to work on an app that will require that.
[14:16] <jelkner> Unfortunately, I can't get passed square one :-(
[14:37] <Laney> jelkner: Yeah, via System Settings
[14:39] <jelkner> Laney: so I set a 4 digit access key and switch to developer mode, yes?
[14:40] <Laney> jelkner: Something like that
[14:40] <Laney> I don't have a device handy to check exactly what it is
[14:40] <jelkner> Laney: np, thanks!
[14:42] <jelkner> Laney: that did it.  it can see my device now.
[14:43] <Laney> Nice work
[17:24] <idiotbox_> Any one ported ubuntu touch on Android one devices http://www.android.com/one/india/?
[17:25] <daker> !devices
[17:28] <bobin89> 1Hi guys. I´m trying to do something a bit out off my leauge. Can´t get it to work so asking for help. I have a Windows 8.1 tablet, (HP elitepad 900 g1) that I´m trying to try Ubuntu on or Gnome. I have a sdcard that boots to grub, but when i press Try ubuntu the screen just dosent load more, the tablet get stuck there. Any suggestion?
[19:48] <steffan_> Hello. I keep checking on Ubuntu Touch periodically, escpecially the Galaxy S2 project. What's the kind of general state of things with Ubuntu Touch?
[19:57] <ogra_> steffan_, it will go on sale preinstalled before end of the year
[19:58] <steffan_> ogra_: Allright, that will probably be good for the amount of apps. What about the ports?
[19:59] <ogra_> up to the porters ... most of them didnt see any movement after their initial port to an today obsolete version though
[20:00] <steffan_> ogra_: So anything that isn't actively maintained might as well be restarted from scratch?
[20:00] <ogra_> yeah
[20:01] <steffan_> ogra_: Do you by any chance have an idea of how hard it would be to port touch to the Galaxy S2?
[20:01] <ogra_> you can surely base on the old stuff though, but apart from the nexus5 and nexus7 "deb" port i dont know of any actively maintained ones
[20:02] <steffan_> ogra_: I have a device and a few weeks of free time, so if it's doable I might get into it
[20:02] <ogra_> not too hard
[20:02] <Tassadar> I wouldn't say actively maintained as much as "it didn't break yet" :/
[20:02] <ogra_> yeah, well, the two functional ports rather :)
[20:03] <steffan_> Tassadar: So how stable it the base then?
[20:03] <steffan_> *is
[20:03] <Tassadar> what do you mean by stable
[20:03] <ogra_> what do you mean by base ?
[20:04] <steffan_> Well I'm guessing there is some code that is universal to getting ubuntu touch to work on a device. Is that right?
[20:05] <steffan_> Or is it more like messing about in the particular kernel until you get it working?
[20:05] <ogra_> the system consists of a normal ubuntu install (like on any PC for example) and an lxc container in which a minimal android runs to provide the android HAL
[20:06] <ogra_> (binary blobs and the minimal amount daemons to use them  ... to access sensors, graphics modem etc)
[20:06] <Tassadar> I'm not really using ubuntu touch very much, but they feel confident enough to start seling phones with it, so it might be at least somewhat stable)
[20:06] <ogra_> the whole ubuntu part is generic
[20:07] <ogra_> what you need to port is the content of the lxc container which is based of your android git tree (massively cut down thoug, to the level of some HW bits)
[20:07] <steffan_> ogra_: Tassadar: So just some background, I don't know a lot about phones, but I am a developer and computer science student and I know my way around Linux
[20:09] <steffan_> I'm guessing I should go read the porting guide? :)
[20:09] <ogra_> well, since we (have to) use the android binaryy blobs that is the part you need knowledge about
[20:09] <ogra_> the guide is sadly havily outdated
[20:10] <ogra_> (as the ports are ... nobody has time to update it atm until the first phones go on sale )
[20:10] <steffan_> Yeah I figured that, which is why I came straight here
[20:10] <steffan_> Hmmm. Here right away
[20:10] <steffan_> My Dutch is bleeding through a bit
[20:11] <ogra_> heh
[20:11] <steffan_> So is there documentation somewhere that you would might be relevant?
[20:12] <ogra_> generally you should start by getting a kitkat tree for your device ... the basics of the old porting guide still applies ... cut it down to the minimum ...
[20:13] <ogra_> get libhybris to work in it (that is the communication layer used to have the two systems work together)
[20:13] <ogra_> that should be a good start (and keep you busy for a while)
[20:14] <ogra_> for the S2 there is an xda forums thread somewhere for the old port
[20:14] <ogra_> !devices
[20:14] <ogra_> should be linked somewhere from a subpage of that wikipage
[20:14]  * ogra_ needs to go ...
[20:15] <ogra_> you will best get answers during european and US office times here
[20:15] <steffan_> Alright. Seems like a good way to start. Thanks :)
[20:15] <ogra_> good luck :)
[20:15] <ogra_> (i helped a bit with the old S2 port and would be interested to see a working new one )
[20:16] <ogra_> (i just dont have any spare time to look into it myself)
[20:16] <steffan_> ogra_: If I get anything working I'll let you know :)
[20:17] <steffan_> Or I'll try to
[20:41] <dobey> Tassadar: btw, i was able to see upgrades after i returned home and got back on my wifi. just wasn't working on 3g. weird. :-/
[20:42] <dobey> i wonder if the "auto download" setting has something to do with that
[21:13] <Tassadar> dobey: might be my server is blocked by your carier for some reason
[21:15] <dobey> Tassadar: i'm pretty sure i've installed an update on 3g before though. and the blacklist file was downloaded ok with the system-image-cli command.
[21:16] <dobey> Tassadar: anyway, i'll have to look at it later if i want to figure out why it wasn't working


[00:17] <mschemerii> got a question that I cannot seem to find an answer to...
[00:17] <mschemerii> why is the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file so minimally configured
[00:17] <mschemerii> ?
[00:18] <mschemerii> there is no listing of video card options or what driver is being used, default screen size, etc...
[01:19] <Jinto> Hey, I've got a bit of a problem.
[01:20] <Jinto> Does anyone know what kind of problem it is when a dell inspiron 600m can't boot past bios?
[01:22] <simoo_> Hi does anyonehave the pictures screensaver working?
[03:13] <nikolam> hi
[03:13] <nikolam> i just updated xubunut 8.04.1 64-bit installation
[03:13] <nikolam> And after that system failed to boot
[03:14] <nikolam> update for /boot/grub/menu.lst is broken
[03:15] <nikolam> I boot by copying old menu.lst from backup
[03:15] <nikolam> I I need to manually tune it _Every time_ new kernel update arrives.
[03:15] <nikolam> Bah
[03:16] <nikolam> also update sets false kernel as default.
[03:16] <nikolam> so updated kernel is not used by default
[03:19] <nikolam> also it wrongly points ALL listed ubuntu installs to first ubuntu install it founds. Not regarding what kernel uses what install
[03:20] <nikolam> So install procedure upon kernel update, regarding menu.lst configuration is full of bugs
[03:20] <nikolam> and catastrophic to ordinary user, duing just an upgrade
[03:22] <nikolam> Also this HORRIBLE mousepad BUG with replace persists!!!
[03:22] <nikolam> I even went to 0.2.14 and it is still there!!!
[03:25] <nikolam> Also, Why (Oh why) update procedure leaves Old kernels in /boot. After a while my /boot is full of old kernels and could stop update for not enough space on /boot
[03:27] <nikolam> After surgically repaired menu.lst with gedit (mousepad replace don`t work) I need to reboot now..
[03:59] <papa__> hello everyone.... I've tried Ubuntu livecd. Finally I quit Windows... and I'm going to install xubuntu.
[04:00] <papa__> I'm downloading xubuntu 8.10. I'm going to delete Windows. I want to use only Linux.
[04:01] <papa__> It's Xubuntu 8.10 stable?
[04:01] <litlebuda> yes papa__
[04:02] <papa__> Today, I tried to install Debian... so   many  problems.
[04:03] <papa__> A friend of mine told me Debian is more stable, but I think it's more difficult.
[05:06] <atom_fox> hi guys
[05:07] <j1mc> hola
[05:08] <atom_fox> planning to install xubuntu on my new laptop, I have vista preinstalled on my laptop... I'ts my first time to use Xubuntu, I'm using slackware before. I would just like to know what development tools or apps I can use/need for C++ and other commong programming languages... because KDE has KDevelop. How about xfce?
[05:14] <Kiption> i think there's anjuta
[05:15] <Kiption> but i've not used it
[05:15] <Odd-rationale> atom_fox: xfce uses gtk. gtk apps integrate quite well with xfce. xfce itself is most C++ iirc. there is also pyxfce, and xfce4-perl
[05:15] <Odd-rationale> all you really need is a text editor! :P
[05:16] <atom_fox> so it means xubuntu automatically install essential libs for g++ or c++ i think? because I use g++ on slack...
[05:17] <Odd-rationale> you might need the build-essential package... i'm not sure
[05:17] <Kiption> you def need that
[05:17] <Kiption> gives you all the compilers etc.
[05:18] <atom_fox> is build-essential included on the xubuntu installer?
[05:18] <Kiption> no
[05:21] <atom_fox> could I download it trough the app-get? or package manager of xubuntu?
[05:21] <Kiption> yea
[07:10] <david__> hello guys
[07:11] <david__> My name is David Kirba, am a copywriter in Addis Ababa, Ethiopia
[07:11] <david__> I've been using ubuntu for a while and I decided to give Xubuntu a try so I'm here for help
[07:24] <david__> I need to connect to windows shares
[07:24] <david__> and I also need to access the windows drives on my computer
[07:24] <david__> mounting the lcoal drives, I'll use fstab. I've used it before, just need to brush up
[07:24] <david__> but I'm having trouble with the network
[07:25] <david__> thunar doesn't have a network browser
[07:34] <david__> hello
[07:34] <david__> any one around?
[09:29] <c4nn1b4l> hi
[13:00] <micah> hello everyone i have a simple question
[13:01] <micah> i need to know how to change the hostname of my computer
[13:02] <TheSheep> /etc/hostname
[13:02] <TheSheep> and the hostname command
[13:02] <micah> ?
[13:02] <TheSheep> !
[13:04] <micah> thanks i got it
[13:04] <TheSheep> :)
[13:30] <craigbass1976> I have regular ubuntu here at work, but with xfce installed.  Computer specs (other than being a desktop) are about the same as my laptop at home.  If I run xfce here, it's much slower than a fresh xubuntu install on my laptop.  Is GNOME (is it gdm?) still involved if I'm running xfce on this box?  Where do I shut it off?
[13:31] <craigbass1976> /etc/X11/default-display-manager ?
[13:32] <craigbass1976> If anyone answers, go ahead and hit my name so xchat blinks.  I've got to go on another desktop.  Much appreciated if anyone can help.
[13:45] <TheSheep> craigbass1976: there is a number of services and background programs that may be running
[13:46] <TheSheep> craigbass1976: ubuntu has more of them than ubuntu, check the system->services and settings->setting manager->autostarted applications
[13:47] <craigbass1976> I don't think I'm running too many more, but checking.  Thanks.
[13:48] <craigbass1976> Oops... though I uninstalled postgres...  But that's about it
[15:06] <Grab> hello
[15:08] <Grab> is it the same if i install xubuntu directly or do sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop  from ubuntu ???
[15:10] <ablomen> Grab, yep
[15:10] <Grab> are you sure?
[15:11] <Grab> because ubuntu installed a lot of shit
[15:11] <ablomen> well you can remove that afterwards
[15:11] <Grab> ablomen what should i remove exactly?
[15:11] <Grab> that's the problem :P
[15:11] <ablomen> ubuntu-desktop :)
[15:41] <sinbox> isn't ubuntu-desktop just a metapackage ablomen ?
[15:41] <vinnl> Yep, it is
[15:47] <sinbox> so it wouldn't pull out all of the stuff it pulls in (at least that is what it looked like to me)
[15:47] <vinnl> No it wouldn't
[15:47] <sinbox> K thanks Mr short to the point replies ;-)
[15:48] <vinnl> ;-)
[15:48] <Odd-rationale> !purexfce
[15:48] <vinnl> Sorry I'm editing a movie at the same time :P
[15:48] <sinbox> no probs, short to the point is what is needed as far as I'm concerned
[15:49] <vinnl> :)
[15:52] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: I made a script by which you can keep a DE and remove another. (No reinstalling packages needed.) I guess it could be improved, though.
[15:52] <Odd-rationale> jarnos: cool. can you pastebin it?
[15:56] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: http://rafb.net/p/1J8BV574.html
[15:58] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: It checkes first level recommended packages, but only dependencies of deeper levels for the metapackages.
[15:59] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: I recommend storing its output in a file and checking if too much will be removed.
[16:00] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: You may edit metatokeep, additionallykeep,and metatoremove variables.
[16:01] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: e.g pkgs-to-remove.sh > list
[16:01] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: less list
[16:02] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: sudo apt-get remove `cat list`
[16:06] <Odd-rationale> jarnos: what's the main difference between that, and the command on that website (!purexfce) ?
[16:08] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: in (!purexfce) you have to reinstall xubuntu-desktop.
[16:09] <Odd-rationale> yeah...
[16:09] <Odd-rationale> it brings you to how it would be if you just installed xubuntu from the xubuntu disc...
[16:10] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: and my script is more versatile.
[16:10] <Odd-rationale> ok. i see...
[16:13] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: the script looks a bit complicated, since I could not make apt-rdepends follow Recommends recursively although its man page says it can.
[16:15] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: I don't know, if you can run the (!purexfce) thing from xfce, since it removes temporarily part of xubuntu-desktop.
[16:15] <Odd-rationale> jarnos: yes you can
[16:32] <jarnos> Odd-rationale: did you try the script? You may have to install some apps to make it work.
[16:34] <Odd-rationale> jarnos: no i haven't tried the script... i'm not on a debian-based system... i just was curious on how you did it... :)
[16:44] <jarnos> Should command "apt-rdepends --follow=Depends,PreDepends,Recommends --show=Depends,PreDepends,Recommends xubuntu-desktop" show recursive dependencies of xubuntu-desktop?
[16:55] <medoctron> does anyone how to configure edge switching in openbox
[17:13] <Odd-rationale> medoctron: something like <screenEdgeWarpTime>0</screenEdgeWarpTime> in the <mouse> section... lower value for faster switching
[17:14] <medoctron> i'll give it a try, thx Odd-rationale
[17:14] <Odd-rationale> medoctron: whoops... 0 disables warpping. set it to like 400 or something...
[17:14] <medoctron> ah okay thanks
[17:14] <Odd-rationale> 1000 = 1 sec
[17:15] <medoctron> oh i see... its already set, but it doesnt work for me...
[17:15] <Odd-rationale> hmm... idk...
[17:16] <Odd-rationale> strange
[17:16] <medoctron> its set to 400
[17:16] <Odd-rationale> i guess you should try asking about it in #openbox
[17:18] <medoctron> Odd-rationale hmm it always connects to ##openbox when i type /j #openbox xD
[17:18] <medoctron> very strange...
[17:20] <Odd-rationale> medoctron: i was sure they had their own channel on freenode...
[17:20] <medoctron> i'll try on another server
[17:20] <Odd-rationale> medoctron: ah, they are on irc.oftc.net
[17:20] <medoctron> yeah, that what i just found
[17:21] <medoctron> thanks
[17:28] <slow-motion> hi
[18:06] <misty_> hi I'm having a bit of an issue using xubuntu with compiz
[18:08] <misty_> I'm trying to disable all of the xfce panels and have compiz come up as my only windows manager
[18:08] <misty_> however xfce seems to always turn on or at least have one panel open
[18:31] <jAguAr`> how do i change the default window manager from kdm to gdm?
[18:32] <Odd-rationale> jAguAr`: you mean display manager? try installing gdm. then try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[18:35] <jAguAr`> Odd-rationale, then i'll have to reboot, right?
[18:40] <jAguAr`> Odd-rationale, thanx, that worked :)
[18:40] <jAguAr`> Odd-rationale, but when i rebooted, it still showed that it was loading "kubuntu" does that make any difference?
[18:47] <sinbox> well, you need to change the session if kubuntu is set as your default desktop environement
[18:50] <jAguAr`> sinbox, okay, when i just rebooted my puter, i set gdm as the default session, so is that gonna show up again if i reboot?
[18:51] <sinbox> yes gdm should now be your display manager, but you still need to tell it to change the session you actually want, you can just log off no need to actually reboot
[18:51] <jAguAr`> ok, brb, lemme see if that works
[18:53] <jAguAr`> sinbox, it looks like it worked
[18:53] <sinbox> only looks like?
[18:53] <sinbox> '-)
[18:54] <jAguAr`> well, when i logged in this time after rebooting, it went straight to the gdm, but as it was loading it showed kubuntu
[18:55] <jAguAr`> oh! and while i'm thinkin about it, is there any way to have the desktop pics change every so often in gnome the way that kde does?
[18:56] <sinbox> ah yes, you'll need to change the splash on boot, not sure how to do that, but a quick search of the forum  or ubuntu wiki should yield some results if no one turns up to answer tthat query. as for the autochange of background I don't know how to do that, I'm not so big on eye candy stuff :)
[18:57] <jAguAr`> okay, thanks anyway :)
[19:05] <xd0> I need to boot xubuntu from usb pen but I can't rember how I did this last, anyone?
[19:06] <xd0> remember
[19:06] <xd0> *
[19:06] <Odd-rationale> jAguAr`: i think you need to have xubuntu-artwork-usplash installed...
[19:08] <jAguAr`> Odd-rationale, it's not that big of a deal, as long as everything works right in gnome, i don't care what the splash screen for boot up says
[19:09] <Odd-rationale> k
[19:20]  * xd0 ,f
[19:54] <federaco78> hi, someone can help me with a terminal problem in xubuntu ?
[19:55] <federaco78> I can't get the function keys to work F1 to F12
[19:56] <federaco78> hello ?'
[19:56] <federaco78> please !
[20:04] <federaco78> hello ????
[20:04] <Odd-rationale> hi!
[20:05] <federaco78> hi, I have a problem with my terminal in Xubuntu
[20:05] <Odd-rationale> what's wrong with it?
[20:05] <federaco78> I can't get the F1 to F12 keys to work
[20:06] <Odd-rationale> what do you mean?
[20:06] <Odd-rationale> (they usually don't do anthing, anyways...)
[20:06] <federaco78> I'm trying a system that runs in a terminal and it uses the Function keys F1, F2, etc
[20:07] <federaco78> and I need them to work, I looked at the configuration but nothing
[20:07] <Odd-rationale> what system?
[20:08] <federaco78> a custom made system
[20:08] <federaco78> the system is already installed but the only problem is that those keys don't work
[20:10] <federaco78> i installed the same system in a Yoper distro and there the terminal program have the configuration option to change the keyboard to vt100
[20:10] <federaco78> and it worked !, but i cant find that option in the xubuntu terminal
[20:20] <federaco78> hellooooooooooo ???
[20:24] <Odd-rationale> I haven't used xfce terminal in a while... so i have no idea...sorry...
[20:26] <federaco78> ok thanks
[22:03] <jxander> i am trying to use a synCE gvfs volume that works fine under gnome, but under xfce won't appear. please help! :-s
[22:36] <source> saluton
[22:59] <flammenwurfer> hell0o
[23:40] <rods> hi
[23:40] <rods> Im trying to find someone help me with VirtualBox
[23:43] <c4nn1b4l_> rods: whats the problem?
[23:45] <R1cochet> rods try #vbox
[23:46] <batcoder-7> back when i had xubuntu 8.04 it seemed much faster and snappier
[23:46] <batcoder-7> is it all in my head but when i installed this it seems more resourceful and not as quic ?
[23:47] <rods> #vbox did not have anyone available.
[23:48] <R1cochet> im trying to set my etho device to manual settings and every time i restart my pc i have to reconfig the settings again. how can i get the settings to save?
[23:50] <Odd-rationale> hmm.. try the /etc/network/interface file... i think there is a manpage for it too..
[23:51] <R1cochet> umm theres only 2 lines in it
[23:53] <Odd-rationale> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man5/interfaces.5.html
[23:58] <grap> hello
[23:58] <grap> anybody around?
[23:58] <forces> hi!


[06:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted flint [ppc64el] (noble-proposed) [3.0.1-1]
[06:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted wims [s390x] (noble-proposed) [2:4.27a+dfsg1-1]
[08:19] <LocutusOfBorg> hello vorlon reverse-depends  -r noble -a i386 src:ocaml shows "nothing"
[08:19] <LocutusOfBorg> time to kick ocaml out on i386?
[08:20] <LocutusOfBorg> it was keep due to "sdl2*" regex matching some unused ocaml-foo libraries on i386... maybe now that they are gone... ocaml can go too?
[10:45] <LocutusOfBorg> seb128, hello
[10:45] <LocutusOfBorg> $ reverse-depends  -r noble -a i386 src:ocaml shows "nothing"
[10:45] <seb128> LocutusOfBorg, hey, how are you?
[10:45] <LocutusOfBorg> fine, trying to kick some i386 stuff out from the archive :)
[10:46] <seb128> :)
[10:46] <LocutusOfBorg> we used to have ocaml-sdl2 on i386 due to *sdl* matching the regex
[10:46] <LocutusOfBorg> I think now src:ocaml can stop build on i386, what do you think?
[10:48] <seb128> LocutusOfBorg, I don't know, I would expect the update-i386-whitelist to suggest removing it from the whitelist if nothing is using it
[10:48] <seb128> maybe vorlon knows why this is not happening?
[10:49] <LocutusOfBorg> I did rmadison and all the reverse dependencies were arch:all
[10:49] <LocutusOfBorg> so... maybe we can do it, I did ping earlier but you werent there
[10:49] <LocutusOfBorg> :)
[10:50] <seb128> ack, well I'm going to see if he has a clue/reply at some point later on today
[10:50] <seb128> if he doesn't I might poke a bit at it later
[10:50] <LocutusOfBorg> yeah no big deal, but dropping ocaml might find some build dependencies of it also droppable
[10:52] <LocutusOfBorg> however src:ocaml has a really strict number of build dependencies...
[11:29] <LocutusOfBorg> btw seb128 if you have time to go through this list, it would be really appreciated
[11:29] <LocutusOfBorg> https://mensuel.framapad.org/p/2mcz5hj98l-a4vl?lang=en
[11:29] <LocutusOfBorg> the big ghc transition is mostly over
[11:34] <seb128> LocutusOfBorg, I've removed the packages on that list now
[11:34] <LocutusOfBorg> WOW
[11:34] <LocutusOfBorg> thanks!
[11:35] <LocutusOfBorg> lets see how britney behaves now
[11:35] <RikMills> ubuntu-release: daily ISOs are failing as desktop-common is trying to pull in the now dropped transitional ghostscript-x package, and the ISO build doesn't seem to want to install it via the new Provides: in the ghostscript package
[11:36] <RikMills> instead picking the NBS ghostscript-x package which now has impossible depends
[11:37] <RikMills> so can we NBS cleanup ghostscript as their is a provides. or change desktop-common seed away from ghostscript-x
[11:37] <RikMills> or both
[11:37] <RikMills> *there is
[11:55] <RikMills> https://code.launchpad.net/~rikmills/ubuntu-seeds/+git/platform/+merge/457422
[11:59] <seb128> RikMills, I've removed the NBS binary from noble now
[12:01] <RikMills> seb128: thanks!
[12:01] <RikMills> trying kubuntu ISO again to see what happens
[12:03] <seb128> RikMills, you probably need to wait a publisher run for the change to reflect on the archive and retry your ISO build
[12:05] <RikMills> seb128: yeah, being too keen there :/
[12:21] <LocutusOfBorg> seb128, considering python-aiortc is out from testing, and last blocker for libvpx7 transition end (NBS cleanup of old library), what about killing it with fire?
[12:22] <LocutusOfBorg> it will eventually come back from Debian once it gets fixed
[12:24] <LocutusOfBorg> or maybe I just NMU in debian
[12:41] <seb128> LocutusOfBorg, clearing NBS isn't a priority at this point on the cycle, there is a newer version in proposed than needs to be fixed to build instead
[12:50] <RikMills> kubuntu ISO did build \o/
[12:51] <seb128> RikMills, great!
[14:07] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: heimdal (mantic-proposed/universe) [7.8.git20221117.28daf24+dfsg-3ubuntu1 => 7.8.git20221117.28daf24+dfsg-3ubuntu1.1] (i386-whitelist)
[14:20] <LocutusOfBorg> seb128, due to debian bug: #1040334 facet-analyser can't be built, this makes paraview not migrating...
[14:20] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Debian bug 1040334 in facet-analyser "facet-analyser - build-depends on conflicting packages" [Serious, Open] https://bugs.debian.org/1040334
[14:20] <LocutusOfBorg> can you please do something about it, like kick out from release pocket?
[14:24] <seb128> LocutusOfBorg, removed
[14:25] <LocutusOfBorg> 💖
[14:28] <LocutusOfBorg> seb128, question, I think we are removing haskell lua support on ppc64el due to some compiler issues
[14:29] <LocutusOfBorg> this means, dropping binaries for ppc64el for haskell-lua haskell-lpeg haskell-lua-arbitrary haskell-hedis haskell-hslua-core haskell-hslua-marshalling haskell-tasty-hslua haskell-hslua-classes haskell-tasty-lua haskell-hslua-aeson haskell-hslua-objectorientation haskell-hslua-packaging haskell-hslua haskell-hslua-module-path haskell-hslua-module-system haskell-hslua-module-text haskell-hslua-module-version haskell-pandoc-lua-marshal
[14:29] <LocutusOfBorg> do you think it can be done?
[14:30] <LocutusOfBorg> remove haskell-hedis from that list...
[14:30] <LocutusOfBorg> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1057857
[14:30] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Debian bug 1057857 in ftp.debian.org "RM: haskell-lua [ppc64el ppc64] -- ROM; FTBFS" [Normal, Open]
[14:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Packageset: Added ncompress to i386-whitelist in noble
[15:16] <jbicha> ubuntu-sru: I'm requesting that osinfo-db (Jammy & Mantic), fonts-noto-color-emoji (J&M), gnome-characters (M), gnome-shell (M), mutter (M) be accepted into -updates tomorrow even though they will only have been in proposed for 6 days
[15:17] <jbicha> to avoid asking someone to look at them over the holidays & to get them to users before January
[15:32] <rbasak> jbicha: I'm rapidly running out of not-meeting time today, but give me one of those to prioritise please and I'll do what I can.
[15:49] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-settings [source] (mantic-proposed) [<IP_ADDRESS>]
[15:52] <jbicha> rbasak: fonts-noto-color-emoji since I remembered I want to phase it before we release gnome-characters
[16:01] <ricotz> ddstreet, hello :), please could you accept libreoffice for jammy-backports
[16:24] <bdmurray> jbicha: nobody should release packages to -updates over the holidays as there won't be anybody to deal with regressions
[16:25] <jbicha> bdmurray: but tomorrow is still ok, right?
[16:30] <bdmurray> jbicha: In theory! I wouldn't look closely at SRU team member's calendars though.
[16:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rustc [i386] (noble-proposed/main) [1.72.1+dfsg0ubuntu1-0ubuntu1] (i386-whitelist)
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[17:41] <ginggs> any ubuntu-archive around?  I'd appreciate a quick RM of r-bioc-dss and r-bioc-demixt so the rest of r-bioc-* can migrate LP: #2046366
[17:41] -ubottu:#ubuntu-release- Launchpad bug 2046366 in r-bioc-dss (Ubuntu) "r-bioc-biocgenerics: Please RM r-bioc-dss and r-bioc-demixt" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/2046366
[17:45] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rustc [s390x] (noble-proposed/main) [1.72.1+dfsg0ubuntu1-0ubuntu1] (i386-whitelist)
[17:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: tinygltf [riscv64] (noble-proposed/universe) [2.8.19+dfsg-1] (no packageset)
[18:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: designate (mantic-proposed/main) [1:17.0.0-0ubuntu2 => 1:17.0.1-0ubuntu1] (openstack)
[18:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: magnum (mantic-proposed/universe) [17.0.0-0ubuntu1 => 17.0.1-0ubuntu1] (openstack)
[18:29] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: manila (mantic-proposed/universe) [1:17.0.0-0ubuntu1 => 1:17.1.0-0ubuntu1] (openstack)
[18:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: rustc [arm64] (noble-proposed/main) [1.72.1+dfsg0ubuntu1-0ubuntu1] (i386-whitelist)
[18:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: nova (mantic-proposed/main) [3:28.0.0-0ubuntu1 => 3:28.0.1-0ubuntu1] (openstack)
[18:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: neutron (mantic-proposed/main) [2:23.0.0-0ubuntu1 => 2:23.1.0-0ubuntu1] (openstack)
[19:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: zfs-linux (mantic-proposed/main) [2.2.0-0ubuntu1~23.10 => 2.2.0-0ubuntu1~23.10.1] (core, kernel-dkms)
[19:04] <mirespace> hi, may I ask to hold on heimdal in noble-proposed, please?
[19:09] <bdmurray> mirespace: if you don't want it to migrate out of -proposed there is a bug tag that will do that
[19:09] <bdmurray> mirespace: its either block-proposed or block-proposed-noble.
[19:10] <mirespace> block-proposed ! Thankyou bdmurray ... done
[19:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: tinygltf [armhf] (noble-proposed/universe) [2.8.19+dfsg-1] (no packageset)
[19:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: tinygltf [arm64] (noble-proposed/universe) [2.8.19+dfsg-1] (no packageset)
[19:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: designate (jammy-proposed/main) [1:14.0.3-0ubuntu1 => 1:14.0.4-0ubuntu1] (openstack)
[20:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ethtool (mantic-proposed/main) [1:6.5-1 => 1:6.5-1ubuntu0.1] (core)
[20:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ethtool (lunar-proposed/main) [1:6.1-1 => 1:6.1-1ubuntu0.1] (core)
[20:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ethtool (jammy-proposed/main) [1:5.16-1 => 1:5.16-1ubuntu0.1] (core)
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[20:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: neutron (focal-proposed/main) [2:16.4.2-0ubuntu6.3 => 2:16.4.2-0ubuntu6.4] (openstack, ubuntu-server)
[21:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: nvidia-graphics-drivers-535 [amd64] (noble-proposed/restricted) [535.146.02-0ubuntu1] (i386-whitelist)
[21:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: nvidia-graphics-drivers-535 [arm64] (noble-proposed/restricted) [535.146.02-0ubuntu1] (i386-whitelist)
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[02:18] <cprov> morning
[05:51] <glatzor> is lp down?
[05:51] <glatzor> i get a timeout trying to connect
[05:54] <mpt> works for me, glatzor
[05:55] <mdke> dodgy here too
[05:55] <mdke> very slow to respond
[05:58] <glatzor> hi mdke, sorry to bother you once again. but at which level should I file bugs against the desktop guide? only major ones?
[07:07] <sivang> mpt: thanks!
[07:07] <sivang> mpt: (just saw your response to my previou sinquery about writing a design spec)
[07:09] <sivang> mpt: in any event , if you design the complete system (as planned for edgy+1) I will just cut down design stuff as per the features I think can be implemented for edgy
[07:10] <sivang> mpt: and save it for edgy+1 , but again - many thanks , and ping me when you you're done so I can review it. Cheers.
[07:20] <mpt> sivang, right, my plan is to spec the simplest useful thing, so you can tell me whether it's implementable before September
[07:20] <mpt> and if it's easily finishable, I'll add more stuff :-)
[07:21] <marga> Hi! I'd like to get in touch with the people that develop/ed Rosetta... Does anyone here know who they are?
[07:23] <matsubara> marga: you want to talk to carlos, but he's not here atm
[07:23] <mpt> marga, carlos at canonical dot com should work
[07:24] <marga> Is he the main dev?
[07:24] <mpt> yes
[07:24] <matsubara> marga: jordi may also help, if it's rosetta community related
[07:24] <marga> Oh, jordi might be an option, since we know each other.
[07:25] <marga> It's a bit flamey subject.  I'd rather talk it with jordi first.
[07:25] <marga> tnx
[07:30] <fabbione> hey marga
[07:30] <marga> hey
[07:30] <fabbione> marga: go for jordi and carlos. carlos is a good guy ;)
[07:31] <marga> fabbione: yeah, I'm sure. I'd still rather have this conversation in private with jordi first. Maybe we can figure something out.
[07:31] <fabbione> marga: i have no doubt :)


[19:46] <dreko> hello
[19:48] <dreko> im leurning some java and wanted to show my friend what i made, so i exported in eclipse to a jar, it works on my pc but not my friends or my other computers
[19:58] <dreko> is anyone here?
[23:21] <zacarias> how do you allocate more memory to java (using OpenJdk)?