[00:00] <corinth> Pupeno: What does Mono's installer du?
[00:00] <BluesKaj> !hi | Nurburgring
[00:00] <ubotu> Nurburgring: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[00:00] <Pupeno> corinth: it installs Mono.
[00:00] <corinth> Pupeno: Lol, sorry. What is Mono?
[00:00] <Pupeno> corinth: a recent nice version, with dev tools.
[00:00] <Pupeno> corinth: an free implementation of .Net.
[00:01] <Pupeno> corinth: http://mono-project.org
[00:04] <mihai_> Does anyone know why i get the message BREAK (install) each time I try to install something in Adept?
[00:05] <draik> mihai_: It means that a package you are trying to install conflicts with something that is installed.
[00:05] <vzduch> mihai_: didn't you have that earlier today already? o0
[00:06] <Kveldulf> hello
[00:06] <draik> sMonk: I would suggest that you google "install GRUB"
[00:06] <Pupeno> mihai_: if you are not afraid, I'd recommend you to open a terminal (konsole) and run aptitude.
[00:06] <draik> Hello Kveldulf
[00:06] <Nuked> can anyone help me convert a video_ts folder to an .ogm xvid 2000kbps with ac3 ?
[00:07] <draik> Nuked: Have you tried FFMPEG?
[00:08] <Nuked> draik.. that and transcode scare me more than freddy cruger and oprah winfrey
[00:08] <Kveldulf> could I maybe get some advice?  having some problems with installing K locks up every time i get to formatting the disk.
[00:08] <vzduch> Nuked: transcode can be used w/ K3b
[00:08] <vzduch> Nuked: then there's k9copy and dvdrip
[00:08] <vzduch> pick one
[00:08] <Nuked> dvdrip produces a file that is most undesirable
[00:09] <vzduch> huh?
[00:09] <Nuked> Im having issues with dvdrip
[00:09] <draik> Freddy is friendly and Oprah is tax loophole-abusing, dolphin saving salmon eating hypocrite.
[00:09] <mihai_> vzduch : Yes, but i'm still having problems
[00:09] <Nuked> draik, see why im scared!
[00:10] <vzduch> who the hell is Freddy?
[00:10] <Nuked> the output causes the video to slow every couple of seconds
[00:10] <Nuked> vzduch, the evil version of edward scissorhands
[00:10] <Nuked> kind of
[00:10] <vzduch> ah, that Freddy..
[00:11] <Nuked> yep
[00:11] <vzduch> Krueger is his last name
[00:11] <Kveldulf> so maybe someone has seen that kind of thing and could advise me?
[00:11] <Nuked> they both pale in comparison next to these video conversion programs
[00:12] <Nuked> draik, do you think you could possibly provide a command that I could use or something?
[00:12] <draik> Since we're speaking of video, what can I use to record Uplink (http://www.uplink.co.uk)
[00:12] <draik> Nuked: Hmmm... DO IT! DO IT NOW!!!
[00:12] <vzduch> mihai_: as I said hours ago.. paste the output of apt-get to pastebin where the error occurs - everything from entering the command to the next prompt
[00:13] <draik> Nuked: That's a pretty direct command :p
[00:13] <Nuked> draik, get out of the chopper
[00:13] <Nuked> (who is your daddy and what does he do)
[00:13] <Kveldulf> no one?
[00:13] <mihai_> vzduch : I did
[00:13] <mihai_> under the name mihai
[00:13] <draik> Nuked: GET DOWN!
[00:14] <Nuked> RUBBER BABY BUGGY BUMPERD
[00:14] <Nuked> D
[00:14] <Nuked> dang
[00:14] <BluesKaj> nuked there's also an alternative that recommend that you can run in the CLI or GUI , called Tovid ...the app also has a support chat on this server  , #tovid
[00:14] <draik> Bumper?
[00:14] <Kveldulf> this is a support channel?
[00:14] <draik> Kveldulf: Define "support"
[00:14] <vzduch> wth..
[00:15] <vzduch> !paste > vzduch
[00:15] <Nuked> d is next to the r and
[00:15] <Kveldulf> like some one might try to help
[00:15] <denn_on_livecd> hey guys...have a bit of a tough decision to make here cause new installation doesn't want to boot (fsck problem but fsck -r <dev> doesn't help), so i need some help)
[00:15] <_michael> Hello I'm having a problem using GCC 4.1.2 on Kubuntu 7.04. I think it has to do with the header file locations but I can't be certain. The gcc -v error output is at http://pastebin.com/m51219228 I'd appreciate any help or suggestions you can offer.
[00:15] <draik> Kveldulf: You mean help with something they might know and say nothing if they don't?
[00:16] <draik> !anyone | Kveldulf
[00:16] <ubotu> Kveldulf: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[00:16] <Kveldulf> so no one here has ever heard of k failing to install correctly?
[00:16] <vzduch> mihai_: the pastebin doesn't seem to have a search function.. you still have the link?
[00:16] <draik> Do you mean KDE?
[00:16] <Nuked> BluesKaj, that program does the opposite of what I need to have done
[00:17] <Kveldulf> didnt see my first post?
[00:17] <denn_on_livecd> history: installed kubuntu 7.10, with other partitions for gentoo; installed gentoo ok, but now kubuntu, at boot, says 3 partitions (related to gentoo) have probs,
[00:17] <Kveldulf> failure to format the hard disk
[00:17] <Kveldulf> kubuntu install disk
[00:17] <Kveldulf> not kde
[00:18] <denn_on_livecd> what to do?
[00:19] <wwZ|Commi> michael: Seems that you're missing libstdc++
[00:19] <xevil> Kveldulf: give us some background... you have an OS on that drive at all?
[00:19] <denn_on_livecd> i'm afraid that if i use the old pre-gentoo mbr-backup the UUID's won't be valid anymore for gentoo partitions
[00:20] <mihai_> vzduch: No, i don't have it :(
[00:20] <Kveldulf> no
[00:20] <Kveldulf> brand new
[00:20] <Nuked> draik, some help you are (lol)
[00:20] <vzduch> mihai_: I just checked my log, you didn't give a link
[00:20] <Kveldulf> even tried disconnecting all the other drives
[00:20] <draik> Nuked: Huh?
[00:21] <Kveldulf> any other info that would be helpful?
[00:21] <Nuked> draik, started off with ffmpeg and got into Arnold Schwarzenegger
[00:21] <_michael> wwZ|Commi: I have the /usr/include/c++/4.1.2 header files there are there any package names that I have to install because libstdc++6 is installed (not the dev though)
[00:21]  * draik has ADD among other things
[00:22] <wwZ|Commi> I think you have to install the dev-Package too
[00:22] <denn_on_livecd> how do i fix this fsck problem so kubuntu will boot if 'fsck -r..." doesn't work?
[00:22] <Nuked> draik, it would seem that im destined to stay solutionless
[00:23] <wwZ|Commi> michael: should be something like libstdc++6-dev
[00:23] <draik> Nuked: in Konversation (or any other CLI terminal) "sudo apt-get install ffmpeg && ffmpeg --help"
[00:24] <vzduch> mihai_: again.. run the command that results in the 'break' message, then paste all of its output to pastebin and give us the link to the resulting webpage
[00:25] <Nuked> draik, ffmpeg: missing argument for option '--help'
[00:25] <Nuked> what were the odds of that?
[00:25] <_michael> wwZ|Commi: When installing libstdc++6-dev and it says it will install cpp, g++, and gcc version 3.4 will this affect my current gcc 4.1.2?
[00:25] <draik> Nuked: man ffmpeg
[00:25] <wwZ|Commi> Uhm...
[00:26] <_michael> wwZ|Commi: I don't think it should it doesn't say it will remove gcc-4.1.2
[00:26] <wwZ|Commi> As far as I know it should't do so
[00:26] <wwZ|Commi> shouldn't
[00:26] <xevil> Kveldulf: you're sure the install disk has no errors?
[00:26] <_michael> wwZ|Commi: ok good
[00:27] <wwZ|Commi> On my system theres gcc 3.4, 3.3, 4.1 and 4.2 installed
[00:27] <Kveldulf> not sure, Its downloaded?
[00:27] <Kveldulf> how to be sure?
[00:27] <wwZ|Commi> And as default it uses 4.1
[00:27] <_michael> wwZ|Commi: Do you know how to get extra directories searched for header files? Is there an environment variable?
[00:28] <wwZ|Commi> I just know the parameter for gcc
[00:28] <xevil> Kveldulf: you might also try MEMTEST on the install disk to see if you might have a memory problem
[00:29] <mihai_> vzduch : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46378/
[00:29] <wwZ|Commi> But I don't know, how the environment variable is named
[00:29] <Kveldulf> ill try that now back in a few.
[00:29] <Kveldulf> afk
[00:30] <level1> hi, I'm trying to make a bootable ubuntu flash drive.  It boots and is able to mount file systems, but it then it drops into some sort of (initramfs) prompt for no reason... there are no error codes to indicate why...
[00:31] <vzduch> mihai_: thanks.. as a 2nd thing, a look at your /etc/apt/sources.list would be helpful :)
[00:31] <mihai_> vzduch : ok, just a minute
[00:32] <_michael> wwZ|Commi: It didn't work 3.4 gives me this error http://pastebin.com/m34741599
[00:32] <mihai_> vzduch: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46380/
[00:32] <wwZ|Commi> hmmm
[00:33] <wwZ|Commi> How do you compile it? Do you type the whole thing in or are you running it within an editor or something?
[00:34] <xevil> Kveldulf: you can check your CD with one of these utilities... http://www.kvipu.com/CDCheck/
[00:35] <_michael> wwZ|Commi: I am in an embedded konsole in kdevelop I type in: "gcc ./"Hello World.cpp" (with -v ) for verbose sometimes but nothing special
[00:36] <draik> Other than gtk-recordmydesktop, krecordmydesktop and screenkast, what can I use to actually record my desktop? This is what I don't want... http://www.draikunderlord.com/uplink.ogg
[00:36] <vzduch> mihai_: comment line 1 out (put a # before it), and uncomment (remove # before the resp. line) lines 6, 8, 13, 15, 63, 65, 67, 69, 71, 73, and if you like, 52 and 59
[00:36] <vzduch> mihai_: to do that, open /etc/apt/sources.list as root ('sudo') w/ a text editor
[00:37] <vzduch> or kdesudo, respectively, if you're going to use a graphical text editor like e.g. KWrite
[00:37] <vzduch> use 'Run Command' in the menu for that
[00:38] <vzduch> when you're done, run 'sudo apt-get update', then try again
[00:38] <wwZ|Commi> michael: What includes are you using? It can also be that you have to give used libraries by hand. I remember a programm I wrote using GMP, I had to use "-l gmp" so gcc realized it had to include the GMP-Libs
[00:40] <_michael> wwZ|Commi: I have "#inlcude <iostream>" as the first line of the file
[00:40] <_michael> *"#include <iostream>"
[00:40] <mihai_> vzduch : works now, indeed
[00:40] <mihai_> thanks!
[00:40] <wwZ|Commi> hm
[00:41] <vzduch> mihai_: you're welcome :)
[00:43] <_michael> wwZ|Commi: Interesting though I just successfully compiled a basic C program and it worked
[00:43] <Nurburgring> how do I get write access in Dolphin to /root/boot/grub so I can copy in the "chain0" file for being able to boot OSX86
[00:44] <wwZ|Commi> Mhm...
[00:44] <wwZ|Commi> I'm trying to figure out what goes wrong :D
[00:44] <wwZ|Commi> I think it's a normal "Hello World"-programm?
[00:44] <HeppyCat> good evening channel
[00:46] <_michael> wwZ|Commi: Well these are the source lines http://pastebin.com/m5a408a39 I think everything is ok though
[00:47] <wwZ|Commi> michael: I just tried that programm in my own machine, for me it works fine using "g++"
[00:47] <wwZ|Commi> instead of "gcc"
[00:47] <wwZ|Commi> I think thats the solution, you have to use g++, not gcc
[00:48] <wwZ|Commi> When trying gcc it gives me the same error as you had
[00:48] <HeppyCat> any ideas how i can burn a .dmg (mac) cd image?
[00:50] <BluesKaj> Nurburgring, alt+F2 kdesu kate /boot/grub/menu.lst
[00:50] <_michael> wwZ|Commi: I can't thank you enough :-) It works now I'm gonna just change my bash alias around to g++ and I'll be running normally. Thanks Again :-)
[00:50] <wwZ|Commi> michael: no problem :)
[00:50] <Kveldulf> xevil: where is that option to check the memory?
[00:51] <xevil> Kveldulf: it's on the install disk
[00:51] <xevil> Kveldulf: you can check your CD with one of these utilities... http://www.kvipu.com/CDCheck/
[00:52] <maverick_> so, is it time now to try kde4 on gutsy
[00:52] <maverick_> ?
[00:52] <squarebottle> Hey, can anybody recommend a KDE application that I can use to syncronize two folders?
[00:52] <maverick_> i had 2 unsuccessful trials to install it on feisty...
[00:53] <Kveldulf> xevil: i did try check cd on the install disk and it locked up about 2/3 done so maybe its a bad disk but bad mem seems a real possibility too
[00:53] <xevil> Kveldulf: probably a bad disk... can you burn the ISO image again?
[00:54] <Kveldulf> xevil: but I did not find an option to check the mem
[00:54] <corinth> squarebottle: Beep me when you get an answer, I'd like to know, too.
[00:54] <Nurburgring> blueskaj: l did that and it brought up menu.lst in Kate... i already added "title "OSX86" rootnovereify bla bla bla" but what about putting the chain0 filr in the directory /root/boot/grub?
[00:54] <HeppyCat> squarebottle: rsync?
[00:54] <Nurburgring> thanks 4 reply
[00:55] <Kveldulf> xevil: not tonight, going to need to buy some more dvds
[00:55] <xevil> Kveldulf: the program name is memtest... I think an option comes up to run it when the CD first boots
[00:56] <xevil> Kveldulf: a bad disk or a memory problem is all I can think of that would cause your troubles
[00:56] <squarebottle> HeppyCat: rsync is a protocol, not a frontend.
[00:57] <squarebottle> HeppyCat: Also, rsync requires a remote server to have rsync installed, so it's not appropriate for portable media devices really.
[00:57] <Kveldulf> xevil: Ill look again, but if its the cd there is nothing I can do tonight. Thanks for helping. Ill maybe check back tomorrow.
[00:57] <xevil> Kveldulf: n/p later dude
[00:57] <wordupson> halp
[00:57] <wordupson> i need to figure out what model my wifi usb adapter is
[00:57] <wordupson> and what driver ubuntu is using for it
[00:57] <BluesKaj> Nurburgring, i gotta confess that I'm not familiar with root/root/files
[00:57] <wordupson> how can i figure that out?
[00:58] <Kveldulf> xevil: later
[00:59] <BluesKaj> err rot/boot
[01:00] <xevil> lsusb -v
[01:00] <BluesKaj> <---getting tired , can't read or type
[01:00] <Nurburgring> BluesKaj: k, thanks for tryin, i think I just need to have root privlage to copy the chain0 file there but kubuntu is only my second distro ever and Im not sure how to get admin root access. I wish there were a "browse as root" button
[01:01] <Anon6702> Bjr je galère avec Kubuntu 7.10 et l'afficahe 3D
[01:03] <BluesKaj> !root
[01:03] <ubotu> Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth.. there is no root password. Then you will see that it is sudo that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:03] <xevil> Nurburgring: have you tried kdesu konqueror?
[01:04] <Nurburgring> xevil: is that a joke?? :)
[01:05] <user1> hello
[01:06] <xevil> Nurburgring: you said you wanted to browse as root... :)
[01:07] <Nurburgring> fk :)
[01:08] <Impiety> i've done literally everything i could find to do to try to get mp3s to play with amarok, but for some reason it won't work
[01:08] <Impiety> would anyone know why?
[01:08] <ZaNGaMaN> i think i will instal kubuntu
[01:09] <BluesKaj> Impiety, install libxine1-ffmpeg
[01:09] <Impiety> i have
[01:09] <Impiety> it still isn't working
[01:09] <Impiety> i've tried removing xine entirely
[01:09] <Impiety> and reinstalling it
[01:09] <BluesKaj> have you setup and unmuted alsamixer
[01:10] <Impiety> uh yeah, wmas work
[01:10] <Impiety> just not mp3
[01:10] <Impiety> amarok says it can't play it and asks if i want to let it install whatever it needs
[01:10] <Impiety> however, what it needs is installed
[01:10] <BluesKaj> then go for it
[01:10] <Impiety> which confuses
[01:10] <Impiety> me
[01:10] <Impiety> I used juk and with the gstreamer engine it worked
[01:11] <Impiety> but not with the xine engine
[01:11] <tuxthepenguin533> will kde4 make its way into kubuntu gusty
[01:13] <ubuntu> Hi, I successfully install ubuntu to a livecd.  apt-cache search firefox returns results but apt-cache search vlc or apt-cache search yakuake don't... are there extra repos I have to add?
[01:14] <Impiety> i'm just going ot remove all of the xine and amarok stuff
[01:14] <Impiety> and see what happens
[01:15] <xevil> Impiety: do you have libxine1 installed?
[01:16] <Impiety> yes
[01:16] <Impiety> that's why all of this is so confusing
[01:16] <Impiety> everything that it needs to work is installed
[01:16] <Impiety> but it's still giving me an error message
[01:16] <Impiety> so i'm just going to try it all again
[01:16] <Radi01> libxine1_ffmpeg
[01:17] <Radi01> -
[01:17] <Impiety> yeah
[01:17] <ZaNGaMaN> for a newbie wich is better
[01:18] <ZaNGaMaN> kubuntu or mandriva?
[01:18] <Radi01> ^ is the mp3 driver also libvisual needs installed
[01:18] <Impiety> libvisual
[01:18] <Impiety> hrm
[01:18] <Impiety> 1 sec
[01:18] <Radi01> let me get the right one brb
[01:19] <Impiety> yeah
[01:19] <Impiety> libvisual was installed
[01:19] <eean> NetworkManager has gone totally nuts on me
[01:20] <eean> right now its connecting and unconnecting about twice a second or something
[01:20] <Nurburgring2> xevil: in konqueror i go to /root and therfe are no items... same with /root
[01:20] <Radi01> 0.4-0
[01:20] <eean> how do you get a 'clean slate' with NetworkManager?
[01:20] <Nurburgring2> same with /root/boot/grub of coarse
[01:20] <Impiety> yeah, it's that version
[01:21] <Radi01> when all else fails re-boot to see if the scripts set..ya never know.
[01:21] <Impiety> good idea
[01:21] <Radi01> hey
[01:21] <Radi01> wait
[01:21] <Radi01> sudo touch /forcefsck
[01:21] <Radi01> do that to make a good clean boot
[01:22] <Impiety> cool
[01:22] <Impiety> i'll brb
[01:22] <Radi01> k
[01:22] <Impiety> thanks for the help man
[01:22] <Radi01> np
[01:24] <markc> anyone available to help a new user
[01:25] <xevil> just ask your question... maybe someone can help
[01:26] <Nurburgring2> xevil: thanks i got it straitend out
[01:26] <Xacarith> Has any one in here used openrpg?
[01:26] <xevil> Nurburgring2: hidden files?
[01:27] <Nurburgring2> nope, konqueror somehow wasn't pointed correctly to my root
[01:27] <markc> I instatlled Kubuntu on my Dell Opti gx150.  intel 815 graphics are showing vertical lines about every 3cm on screen.  any sugguestions??
[01:27] <Impiety> yeah
[01:27] <Impiety> that didn't work
[01:27] <Radi01> work
[01:27] <Radi01> oh boy
[01:28] <Nurburgring2> xevil, any ways, got the chain0 file there now and show have succesful tri boot  (xp,osx,Kubuntu)
[01:28] <Radi01> It does not play or what does it not do
[01:28] <Impiety> it's weird
[01:28] <xevil> Impiety: do you have libxine1-plugins installed?
[01:28] <Impiety> well, i did
[01:28] <Impiety> and it made no difference
[01:29] <Radi01> try installing those libs again since you have a clean boot
[01:34] <markc> I instatlled Kubuntu on my Dell Opti gx150.  intel 815 graphics are showing vertical lines about every 3cm on screen.  any sugguestions??
[01:36] <Impiety> umm
[01:36] <Impiety> what driver did xorg use
[01:36] <Impiety> well, what driver is it using
[01:36] <Radi01> If no one here can help try ubuntu markc.
[01:36] <Impiety> check int /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:36] <markc> hold on
[01:37] <Radi01> Still nothing on amarok?
[01:37] <Impiety> nah
[01:37] <Impiety> i'm just completely removing all of the xine libs
[01:38] <markc> Intel Corporation 82815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller]
[01:38] <Radi01> ok
[01:38] <Impiety> and amarok
[01:38] <Impiety> and reinstalling them
[01:38] <Impiety> umm
[01:38] <Impiety> what driver did it use though
[01:38] <Radi01> cool just use the libs necessary for amarok 1rst..c what happens
[01:38] <markc> intel
[01:38] <Impiety> hrm
[01:38] <Impiety> yeah, that's what i'm going to try
[01:38] <Impiety> hrm
[01:38] <Impiety> it says intel next to driver
[01:39] <Radi01> ill get the exact ones 4 ya /stand by
[01:39] <Impiety> I appreciate it
[01:39] <Impiety> hrm
[01:39] <markc> yes it does.  under the device section
[01:39] <Impiety> i've never tried to install with integrated stuff
[01:40] <Impiety> my other crappy comptuer has an integrated graphics thingy
[01:40] <Impiety> and it's sis
[01:40] <Impiety> and it didnt' work
[01:40] <markc> is there a intel 815 driver?
[01:40] <markc> or just the generic intel
[01:41] <Impiety> how old is that laptop?
[01:41] <markc> not a laptop
[01:41] <markc> desktop
[01:41] <Impiety> oh wait
[01:41] <Impiety> duh
[01:41] <Impiety> you never said it was
[01:41] <Impiety> haha
[01:41] <Impiety> well, either way
[01:41] <markc> its cool
[01:41] <Impiety> how old is it
[01:42] <markc> a few years
[01:42] <Impiety> intel has some drivers on their site
[01:42] <markc> what distro
[01:42] <Impiety> well
[01:42] <markc> deb or RPM?
[01:42] <Evil_> not sure if I should ask this here or ##c, but, where can I get the C include files (stdio etc etc) it says I don't have them
[01:43] <Impiety> just scroll down, it explains the stuff to you
[01:43] <Impiety> tell me if that works
[01:43] <Impiety> there's quite a few forums talking about that chipset
[01:43] <Impiety> and if all else fails, you can always try setting the driver to vesa
[01:43] <Impiety> and see if that works
[01:44] <Impiety> but that wouldn't support opengl
[01:44] <tom_> did u try i810
[01:44] <Radi01> libxine1-ffmpeg   and libxine1              those are the (only) ones need for music for amarok. /for visuals  libvisual-0.4-0
[01:44] <Impiety> sweet thanks man
[01:44] <Radi01> k
[01:44] <Impiety> i'm goign to reinstall those right now
[01:45] <Impiety> if this doesn't work, i'm just going to give up and not use amarok
[01:45] <Radi01> ok
[01:45] <Impiety> the gstreamer engine works in juk
[01:45] <Impiety> so i guess i could just use that
[01:45] <Radi01> it should work..no reason why it shouldnt
[01:45] <Impiety> i know, it's weird, it was working yesterday
[01:45] <Impiety> and then I got rid of a bunch of gnome crap
[01:45] <Radi01> interesting
[01:45] <Impiety> and all of a sudden it didn't work
[01:46] <Radi01> ah..somthing came up missing then
[01:46] <Radi01> re-install amarok 2 maybe
[01:46] <Impiety> i'm doing that
[01:46] <Radi01> 1rst
[01:46] <Impiety> right now
[01:46] <Radi01> im with ya buddy hope it works
[01:47] <Impiety> hopefully with fresh config files things will work
[01:47] <gONIK> Hi everyone. I just connected a USB device to my computer, and I have a CD with the driver for the device. Now how can I install that driver?
[01:47] <Impiety> umm
[01:47] <Impiety> is the driver on your computer
[01:47] <Impiety> and where modules go?
[01:47] <gONIK> no on the CD-ROM
[01:48] <gONIK> that came with my device
[01:48] <Impiety> umm
[01:48] <Impiety> it has linux drivers on it?
[01:48] <gONIK> yes
[01:48] <Impiety> what's the device
[01:48] <gONIK> Wireless adapter
[01:48] <Impiety> oh
[01:48] <Impiety> umm
[01:48] <tom_> what's the extension on the drivers
[01:48] <Impiety> is there a .deb package?
[01:48] <gONIK> tar.gz I think
[01:49] <zibrah3ed> find the*.inf file for it, then ndiswrapper -i *.inf
[01:49] <tom_> do u know how to extract it
[01:49] <gONIK> No, I am a total newb
[01:49] <tom_> tar -xf filename.tar.gz
[01:49] <Impiety> tar xzvf blah.tar.gz
[01:49] <Impiety> blah = what it's called
[01:49] <tom_> xzvf is probably better
[01:50] <gONIK> What is the difference between -xf and xzvf?
[01:50] <Impiety> hrm
[01:50] <Impiety> dunno
[01:50] <Impiety> i just use xzvf
[01:50] <tom_> x is extract f is force
[01:50] <Impiety> z =  gz
[01:50] <zibrah3ed> v = verbose
[01:50] <tom_> v is verbose i believe
[01:50] <Impiety> yeah
[01:51] <gONIK> That is very helpful
[01:51] <gONIK> Thanks
[01:51] <Impiety> amarok is a no go
[01:51] <Impiety> haha
[01:51] <Impiety> this is fantastic
[01:51] <Radi01> bummer
[01:51] <Impiety> it makes no sense
[01:51] <Radi01> it dont
[01:51] <tom_> what's wrong with it?
[01:51] <Impiety> i twont play mp3s
[01:51] <Impiety> i installed everything necessary for it to do so
[01:51] <Impiety> and it sitll won't
[01:51] <Impiety> it's being difficult
[01:52] <tom_> u have liblame?
[01:52] <tom_> idk if thats the exact name
[01:52] <Impiety> hrm
[01:52] <Impiety> i do
[01:52] <Radi01> somthing got borked
[01:53] <Radi01> what about doing it from terminal 2 c if there are errors
[01:53] <vzduch> tom_: not entirely right.. x = extract, z = gzip compression, v = verbose, f = file (takes filename as argument)
[01:53] <gONIK> thanks
[01:54] <gONIK> ok so after I extracted it
[01:54] <tom_> vzduch: yeah, sorry about that
[01:54] <gONIK> now what
[01:54] <Impiety> go to the directory it made
[01:54] <tom_> wat files did it extract
[01:54] <Impiety> is there something that says "configure" in that dir
[01:55] <gONIK> Nope
[01:55] <gONIK> there are two .gz
[01:56] <gONIK> and the rest are shell scripts
[01:56] <gONIK> and plain text files
[01:56] <tom_> what are the names of the scripts
[01:56] <vzduch> wth are you doing anyway?
[01:56] <gONIK> wlan0up
[01:56] <gONIK> Ok
[01:56] <gONIK> let me start from the beginning
[01:56] <gONIK> I bought a wireless adapter
[01:57] <gONIK> Now I connected it to my computer
[01:57] <gONIK> I have a CD for it
[01:57] <Impiety> what kidn of wireless adapter
[01:57] <gONIK> With all the drivers, for Windows, Linux, Mac and so on
[01:57] <gONIK> Alfa 500mw
[01:57] <vzduch> if you're running, or planning to run, Linux, look at hardware compatibility lists beforehand
[01:57] <gONIK> I am trying to install it, so that the operating system sees it
[01:58] <tom_> he said there are linux drivers on a cd
[01:58] <tom_> try ./wlan0up
[01:58] <vzduch> I'd prefer to see a directory listing of the .tar.gz file's content
[01:59] <vzduch> instead of wild guessing :>
[01:59] <tom_> yeah i guess that's the smart idea
[01:59] <tom_> and can u tell us the name of the device
[02:00] <tom_> Impiety: are u still there?
[02:02] <vzduch> anyway, it's late, so I'll try to get a bit of sleep :)
[02:02] <vzduch> good night folks :)
[02:04] <Radi01> have a good one V
[02:06] <gONIK> there is an autorun.inf file on the cd
[02:06] <gONIK> will it help me somehow?
[02:06] <Impiety> tom_: yeah, sorry, i had to go do something really quickly
[02:06] <Impiety> libmad0 is installed
[02:07] <tom_> impiety: what engine are you using
[02:07] <Impiety> xine
[02:07] <Impiety> that's the only engine that I seemlingly can install for amarok
[02:07] <tom_> goink: i think that's mostly for windows computers that automatically load the cd
[02:07] <gONIK> yea I figured
[02:08] <gONIK> when I type lsusb it sees my device
[02:08] <tom_> what is the name of the device
[02:08] <gONIK> Alfa 500mw
[02:08] <Impiety> weird
[02:08] <Impiety> noatun plays mp3s
[02:09] <tom_> and amarok still doesn't?
[02:09] <Radi01> weird
[02:09] <tom_> goink: http://blog.data-alliance.us/index.php?/archives/34-Alfa-500mW-USB-on-Fedora-7-Linux-Chipset-RealTek-8185.html
[02:09] <tom_> thats a page about installing it in fedora
[02:10] <tom_> it mentions install wlassistant
[02:10] <mihai_> I cannot run Firefox in Kunbutu after installing the browser. After it starts loading, the window closes automatically ?
[02:11] <tom_> and adding the line alias wlan0 rtl8187 to /etc/modprobe.conf
[02:11] <tom_> mihai_: try running it from the terminal to see the error message
[02:11] <mihai_> tom_ : /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: 424: /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: not found
[02:12] <fulat2k> hi folks, i'm getting dpkg errors when doing a dist-upgrade which includes kde4: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46381/
[02:12] <fulat2k> any help on how i can fix it?
[02:12] <fulat2k> running sudo apt-get --purge remove $(dpkg -l | egrep '(KDE 4|KDE PIM 4|-kde4)' |cut -d ' ' -f 3) kdebase-workspace doesn't work...
[02:13] <gONIK> when I try to install wlassistant
[02:13] <tom_> mihai: how did u install it
[02:13] <gONIK> It says "couldn't find wlassistant"
[02:14] <tom_> goink: did you check you network settings
[02:15] <tom_> in system setting
[02:15] <tom_> settings*
[02:15] <mem2> Passing startup args to already-running Azureus java process listening on [<IP_ADDRESS>: 6880]
[02:15] <mem2> help plz
[02:15] <mem2> :P
[02:15] <mihai_> tom_ : First i tried installing it unsuccessfully by downloading the archieve and I think that messed it up.. The second time i installed it using Adept
[02:15] <mem2> checked all forum threads and nothing
[02:15] <mem2> netstat -tp doenst show az
[02:15] <mem2> java isnt running
[02:15] <mem2> fresh install
[02:15] <tom_> mihai_: try sudo apt-get remove firefox
[02:16] <tom_> then install
[02:17] <Radi01> tom
[02:17] <tom_> yes
[02:17] <Radi01> where do removed packages go to
[02:18] <mem2> hello
[02:18] <mem2> any1 have / know of this azurues issue
[02:18] <tom_> idk
[02:18] <mem2> restarted lo as 1 of the ubuntu threads suggested
[02:18] <Radi01> I think there is a trash file/I just havent found it.
[02:19] <tom_> radi01: when u say remove do you mean for apt-get or rm
[02:19] <Radi01> both
[02:19] <tom_> im basically positive rm is permanent
[02:19] <mem2> meh
[02:19] <Radi01> ok
[02:19] <mem2> guess no help on azurues
[02:20] <tom_> mem2: could you use another client
[02:20] <mem2> tom_: thats the kind of solution I expect from morons tom
[02:20] <mem2> I could use gentoo to
[02:21] <mem2> distro that works outright with mp3s etc
[02:21] <Radi01> whats with the name calling.
[02:21] <dixon2> hola a todos
[02:22] <mem2> kubuntu bugfix for azureus issue: dont use it
[02:22] <mem2> surely not
[02:23] <tom_> right but i do not know the solution to your problem
[02:23] <mihai_> tom_ : Still doesn't work after removing it and reinstalling
[02:23] <tom_> if you need to use it then using a different client would be the quickest solution
[02:23] <dixon2> not you espanit
[02:24] <mem2> tom_ thanks for pointing out the obvious
[02:24] <mem2> I appreciate you trying to help
[02:24] <mem2> but if u dont know u dont know
[02:24] <tom_> mihai: you said you installed it from source first correct
[02:24] <mihai_> tom_ : It appears as the program is loading and then it simply doesn't start and closes
[02:24] <dixon2> no hay perosnas que hablen en español
[02:24] <mihai_> tom_ : Yes, i tried but it failed because I assume I did something wrong
[02:25] <tom_> mihai: do you still have the archive
[02:25] <dixon2> not
[02:26] <mihai_> tom_ : No
[02:27] <tom_> mihai: i believe theres a way to remove all the files it made with the source
[02:27] <mihai_> however, i see there still is a folder called "firefox" in /etc/
[02:28] <tom_> mihai: after the source installation failed did you do make uninstall(possibly called something else)
[02:28] <mihai_> tom_ : No
[02:28] <mihai_> I just left it like that
[02:29] <tom_> mihai: did it install with a makefile or a script
[02:29] <mihai_> i think a makefilef
[02:30] <tom_> try downloading and extracting the source again and configure it
[02:30] <tom_> then look at the contents of the makefile and there should be a command like uninstall
[02:30] <tom_> then just do sudo make uninstall
[02:33] <mihai_> ok
[02:36] <tom_> mihai: it doesn't use a makefile but i'll look around for a way to uninstall the source
[02:37] <mihai_> good
[02:37] <mihai_> tom_ : How do I remove a folder with sudo?]
[02:37] <tom_> does it have contents
[02:37] <mihai_> i see some firefox files that are not supposed there
[02:37] <mihai_> i see some firefox files that are not supposed to bethere
[02:38] <tom_> rm -r folder
[02:38] <tom_> with sudo
[02:38] <corinth> I want to download an ISO from opensuse. Would it be faster to use the standard download, or to use bittorrent?
[02:39] <tom_> corinth: how big is the file
[02:39] <corinth> tom: 4.1 GB
[02:39] <mihai_> tom_ : I keep getting all these messages : rm: cannot remove `/etc/firefox//profile/chrome/userContent-example.css': Permission denied
[02:40] <tom_> corinth: i would think bittorrent would be faster if you have it set up properly
[02:40] <tom_> mihai: did u use sudo
[02:41] <mihai_> tom_ : I typed in rm -r /etc/firefox
[02:41] <tom_> put sudo in front of it
[02:41] <tom_> sudo rm -r /etc/firefox
[02:41] <corinth> tom_: What do I need to make sure to do to ensure it is set up properly?
[02:41] <tom_> corinth: your ports are forwarded
[02:42] <corinth> Through my router?
[02:42] <tom_> and a firewall should not be blocking it
[02:42] <tom_> yes
[02:42] <corinth> Thanks.
[02:42] <tom_> you should be able to test it with the client
[02:42] <mihai_> mihai@kubuntu:/etc/firefox$ sudo rm -r firefox/ sudo .......  cannot get working directory ....... rm: cannot remove `firefox/': No such file or directory
[02:42] <tom_> and normally there are indicators at the bottom
[02:42] <spar> Hello
[02:43] <spar> I am loco lol
[02:43] <tom_> mihai: cd .. then type the command
[02:43] <spar> is there a room for video capture?
[02:43] <tom_> or u could just type sudo rm -r /etc/firefox when your not in the folder
[02:44] <danny500> XD
[02:44] <danny500> so ya, is there a room for video capture?
[02:45] <danny500> or does anyone here know about recording tv onto the computer?
[02:45] <tom_> danny500: do you have a tv tuner card for you computer
[02:45] <danny500> yes
[02:45] <danny500> When I try to use it it tells me I need an extender
[02:46] <tom_> what card is it
[02:46] <danny500> no clue
[02:46] <danny500> um I'll check
[02:47] <tom_> mihai: the firefox website says to remove the folder /usr/lib/firefox-<version>
[02:49] <mihai_> tom_: found it, what's the command again?
[02:49] <tom_> the command to remove a folder and its contents?
[02:50] <mihai_> ok
[02:50] <mihai_> i've done it
[02:50] <tom_> wat did u remove exactly
[02:50] <mihai_> the folder /usr/lib/firefox
[02:51] <tom_> try to run firefox
[02:51] <tom_> it should say its not found
[02:51] <tom_> or unknown command*
[02:51] <tom_> command not found**
[02:51] <mihai_> tom_ : The program 'firefox' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:51] <mihai_> thats correct
[02:52] <tom_> yea
[02:52] <tom_> type what it says
[02:52] <tom_> 'sudo apt-get install firefox
[02:52] <danny500> I found what it is
[02:52] <tom_> '
[02:52] <danny500> Asus/ViXS Combo-210E NTSC/ATSC TV Tuner
[02:52] <tom_> what is it
[02:53] <tom_> danny500: you want to be able to record tv with it correct?
[02:53] <danny500> yes
[02:54] <mem2> tom_: my error was caused by having the gcj version of azurues installed
[02:54] <danny500> I have Windows Vista (Ya I know BOOOOOO!!!!!) I'm on here because I'm setting up an Ubuntu 7.10 computer for my uncle because I'm just cool like that. >_>
[02:55] <tom_> danny500: i don't know then idk much about vista
[02:55] <mihai_> tom_: Now i'm still getting the same message The program 'firefox' is currently not installed even after installing it
[02:55] <danny500> has nothing to do with Vista I can figure that out myself I just need to know what the unit is called
[02:56] <tom_> mihai: try installing it with adept
[02:56] <danny500> I know there is another unit that connects to the tv tuner and you plug your tv into that I just don't know what it's called
[02:56] <tom_> danny500: do you want to hook up the cable or something like svideo or rca
[02:57] <danny500> rca
[02:57] <tom_> what inputs does the card have
[02:58] <danny500> cable-ntsc- cable atsc Audio/Visual RCA in
[03:00] <tom_> danny500: i'm not sure i understand your problem   u are unable to phisically hook up your tv to the card?
[03:00] <danny500> ya I know thats gay
[03:00] <danny500> wait nvm, I figured it out
[03:00] <tom_> does the tv have any outputs
[03:00] <danny500> this is what I needed
[03:00] <danny500> http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=547&sec=1
[03:01] <mihai_> tom_: still doesnt work
[03:01] <Evil_> when I try to sudo apt-get install g++, it wants me to put in the kubuntu disk, anyway to not have to? (sorta lost it lol)
[03:01] <tom_> danny500: you know that just lets you access the media center from your tv
[03:02] <mihai_> tom_: there was still a firefox directory in /opt/ with a bunch of files
[03:02] <mihai_> even after uninstalling the program
[03:02] <tom_> mihai: typing firefox in the terminal still says its not installed
[03:02] <mihai_> yesd
[03:03] <mihai_> and i can't install/remove it either from terminal
[03:03] <mihai_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:03] <tom_> thats b.c u have adept open
[03:03] <mihai_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:03] <mihai_> oh
[03:03] <tom_> u need to close adept before using it
[03:03] <mihai_> lol
[03:04] <flaccid> !adeptfix
[03:04] <ubotu> If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »
[03:07] <mihai_> mihai_ : still nothing
[03:07] <tom_> does sudo apt-get install firefox return an error
[03:07] <mihai_> no
[03:08] <tom_> it says its installing it each time you type it
[03:08] <mihai_> every time yes
[03:09] <tom_> apt-get remove says its not installed?
[03:10] <tom_> also try sudo apt-get purge firefox
[03:11] <mihai_> ok
[03:11] <mihai_> what does that do?
[03:11] <mihai_> remove it?
[03:11] <tom_> purge removes basically every trace
[03:12] <mihai_> i did
[03:12] <mihai_> let me reinstall now
[03:12] <mihai_> The program 'firefox' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[03:12] <mihai_> sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:12] <mihai_> even after purge and installing again
[03:12] <mihai_> maybe i should restart
[03:13] <tom_> it may help but i dont see how it would
[03:14] <Impiety> Radi01: hey, I figured something else about amarok
[03:15] <Impiety> it works if i use root
[03:15] <Impiety> like mp3s play only if i use sudo amarok
[03:15] <Impiety> otherwise it doesn't
[03:16] <mihai_> I might as well switch back to Ubuntu
[03:16] <mihai_> from Kubuntu
[03:16] <mihai_> i'm having a bunch of problems with it
[03:17] <tom_> how long have you had kubuntu for
[03:17] <mihai_> ~15 hours
[03:20] <Radi01> what did U find ut.
[03:20] <Impiety> mp3s play as root
[03:20] <tom_> he can play mp3s when hes root
[03:20] <Impiety> in amarok
[03:20] <Impiety> so, I dunno what else to do
[03:20] <Radi01> no errors
[03:20] <Radi01> ?
[03:20] <Impiety> nope
[03:21] <Impiety> no errors at all
[03:21] <Impiety> works perfectly
[03:21] <Radi01> 2 weird
[03:21] <Impiety> yeah
[03:21] <Impiety> there's gotta be a permissions problem somewhere
[03:21] <Impiety> but i have no idea where to look
[03:21] <Impiety> i'm looking in libs
[03:21] <Impiety> err /usr/lib
[03:21] <Impiety> but
[03:21] <tom_> see what groups your in
[03:21] <Impiety> yeah
[03:21] <Impiety> hrm
[03:21] <Impiety> good idea
[03:28] <Impiety> umm
[03:28] <Impiety> my groups are fine
[03:28] <Impiety> this is frickin' weird
[03:28] <Radi01> sudo apt-get uninstall ./Bill Gates.
[03:29] <Radi01> j/k
[03:29] <tom_> yea lol
[03:32] <cje> hi, I am using Kubuntu Gutsy and I would like to set the default view for tree view, as opposed to icon view.
[03:32] <cje> How do I do this
[03:32] <Viper> Damn... is it strange that the #ubuntu channel is so much more talkative then this one?
[03:36] <theverant> is there a way to get multiple file selection in dolphin preview mode to select files a, ..., z in a filname based line, instead of a -> z as a physical line, depending on how the view window is opened?  IE the way that Windows Explorer allows multiple selections to happen from icon or preview view modes?
[03:36] <Radi01> Most that use ubuntu downloaded it first not knowing about kubuntu.
[03:36] <theverant> it's making me crazy that it selects all the files straight down, instead of all the files between two given files
[03:40] <theverant> seems like there should be a hot key to enable that functionality... it's making me crazy
[03:40] <Impiety> oooooooohhhh
[03:42] <Impiety> Radi01: I figured it out
[03:42] <Impiety> !!!!
[03:42] <Radi01> what was it
[03:42] <Impiety> well
[03:42] <Impiety> I don't really know
[03:42] <Radi01> lol
[03:42] <Impiety> but instead of using amarok
[03:42] <Impiety> i found this thingy
[03:42] <Impiety> in /usr/bin
[03:42] <Impiety> it said kubuntu-media-amarok
[03:42] <Impiety> it's an executable
[03:42] <Impiety> so, I tried it
[03:42] <Radi01> ah
[03:42] <Impiety> and it worked
[03:43] <Impiety> so umm
[03:43] <Radi01> can U axcess the icon now
[03:43] <Impiety> well
[03:43] <Impiety> I changed it
[03:43] <Impiety> the way it was in the menu
[03:43] <Impiety> so instead of amarok, i used the kubuntu-media-amarok
[03:43] <Impiety> and it works
[03:43] <Radi01> nice..did U load the libvisuals too
[03:43] <Impiety> yeah
[03:44] <Radi01> nice job it should work good
[03:44] <Impiety> I just don't understand why that worked and the other thing didn't
[03:44] <Radi01> maybe deleting xine it saved the exe for amarok
[03:44] <Impiety> it's possible
[03:45] <Impiety> ohh
[03:45] <Impiety> haha
[03:45] <Impiety> nevermind,
[03:45] <Impiety> i'm retarded that had nothing ot do with it
[03:45] <Radi01> c'mon tell me
[03:45] <Radi01> lol
[03:45] <Impiety> i updated something
[03:45] <Impiety> wiht synaptic, i added a couple more repositories
[03:45] <Radi01> ah ha
[03:45] <Impiety> and it upgraded libxine
[03:46] <Impiety> so it was libxine being dumb
[03:46] <Radi01> I did mine and that didnt happen to me
[03:46] <Impiety> yeah
[03:46] <Radi01> sudo apt-get update  ?
[03:47] <Impiety> I must have messed up something
[03:47] <Impiety> somehow
[03:47] <theverant> anyone know of a good eBay watcher for KDE kinda like JBidwatcher?
[03:47] <Impiety> well, i used synaptic
[03:47] <Radi01> ah
[03:47] <Impiety> i'm lazy
[03:47] <mihai_> i judst installed Chimera on Kubuntu but don't know how to run it ?
[03:47] <Radi01> next time use sudo
[03:47] <Impiety> either way
[03:47] <mihai_> does any one know the command to run it?
[03:47] <Impiety> well, Radi01thanks for all of the help, i'm relieved now
[03:48] <Radi01> any time buddy anytime
[03:49] <Radi01> try ubuntu mihai..most of the tech here are sleeping
[03:49] <Viper> I've never heard of Chimera...
[03:49] <mihai_> ok
[03:50] <Viper> Did you install it via apt-get?
[03:50] <mihai_> yes
[03:50] <mihai_> it's a web browser
[03:50] <flaccid> do you have a comand chimera
[03:50] <mihai_> since i can't get firefox to work and Konqueror is horrible
[03:50] <mihai_> i tried it
[03:50] <flaccid> where did you d/l it from
[03:51] <Viper> how bout find / -name "chimera"
[03:51] <Viper> that'll look for any file named chimera on your system...
[03:51] <flaccid> or wheris chimera
[03:51] <flaccid> or which chimera
[03:51] <flaccid> but they are unlikely to work
[03:51] <flaccid> whereis
[03:52] <flaccid> isn't chimera like pretty old
[03:53] <Radi01> but mihai cant get firefox to work..no one knows how.
[03:53] <flaccid> whats the problem with firefox
[03:53] <mihai_> well
[03:53] <mihai_> it won't simply not load
[03:53] <flaccid> goto konsole
[03:53] <mihai_> i tried installing and reinstalling all over again
[03:53] <flaccid> type firefox
 and then pastebin output
[03:54] <timberwolf_> Hey when is the new package for firefox <IP_ADDRESS> going to be available.  the current upgrade to <IP_ADDRESS> won't let me print pages for some odd reason.  Samething happened in Windows.
[03:54] <mihai_> The program 'firefox' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[03:54] <mihai_> sudo apt-get install firefox
[03:54] <mihai_> this is what i'm getting
[03:54] <mihai_> even though it's installed
[03:54] <Viper> why can't you install it via apt-get mihai?
[03:54]  * flaccid waits
[03:54] <mihai_> i can
[03:54] <mihai_> and i did already..
[03:54] <mihai_> but it won't work either
[03:55] <flaccid> !doesntwork
[03:55] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[03:55] <Viper> FF did install?
[03:55] <mihai_> yes
[03:55] <Radi01> lol
[03:55] <Viper> what output do you get when you type in /usr/bin/firefox in the konsole?
[03:56] <Viper> And are you using a 64-bit OS... I don't think my FF installed come to think of it either.....
[03:56] <mihai_> yes
[03:56] <mihai_> i'm using 64
[03:57]  * flaccid still waits
[03:57] <Radi01> there it is..U need 32 bit
[03:57] <Radi01> ff
[03:57] <mihai_> hmmmmmmmmmmmm
[03:57] <flaccid> paste uname -a please
[03:57] <flaccid> paste something at least heh
[03:58] <mihai_> Linux kubuntu 2.6.22-14-generic #1 SMP Sun Oct 14 21:45:15 GMT 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[03:58] <flaccid> and can you paste the others requested to to pastebin
[03:59] <Viper> I think I just ended up downloading the FF binary from their website using konqueror and copying it into /usr/local....
[04:00] <Radi01> Most that have 64 bit use flash they need 32 bit ff.
[04:00] <flaccid> i'll wait for more output to see the problem
[04:00] <flaccid> but 64bit firefox works
[04:00] <t1n0m3n> so I am installing kubuntu on my laptop upgrading from 32 bit to 64 bit 7.10....  The network connection is incredibly slow.  I have tried both wireless and wired and surfing the internet is moving like molasses.  http://www.linuxquestions.org/ takes like 10 to 15 seconds to load.  I am doing the adpet upgrade and it has taken over 2 hours now...  any ideas on where to look?
[04:00] <flaccid> and this is a cool project: http://ubuntuzilla.wiki.sourceforge.net/
[04:01] <t1n0m3n> Dell Precision M90 - Kubuntu 7.10/Core2Duo T7400/Intel 3945 Wireless/200G 7200rpm HD/2G 667mhz Ram/Quadro FX2500M
[04:01] <Viper> For me, 64-bit FF works, but no add-ons work with it, that's why I ended up downloading the official version from their website.
[04:01] <flaccid> !opera
[04:01] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" (dapper only) is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[04:02] <flaccid> just use opera and be done with it if you can't paste output from firefox command..
[04:03] <mihai_> i'll just get opera..
[04:03] <t1n0m3n> ifconfig doesnt show an excessive amount of errors either
[04:03] <flaccid> test ping replies and dns lookups t1n0m3n
[04:03] <flaccid> as well as traceroute
[04:05] <t1n0m3n> 29 to 31 ms to google...
[04:05] <flaccid> anyone know of a script or way to echo your current amarok mp3 title and artist in konversation ?
[04:05] <flaccid> and no packet loss
[04:05] <flaccid> or very little?
[04:05] <t1n0m3n> 0 packetloss
[04:05] <flaccid> and how long are dns lookups taking
[04:05] <flaccid> fast?
[04:06] <t1n0m3n> cant traceroute yet, package not installed yet... still waiting on adept to do its thing
[04:06] <flaccid> host google.com
[04:06] <t1n0m3n> dns lookups seem normal... i.e instant
[04:06] <flaccid> ok
[04:06] <flaccid> do you know how to use wget?
[04:06] <t1n0m3n> oh, hehe, yep, lemme get it
[04:07] <flaccid> test some small and large files wget in /tmp
[04:07] <flaccid> if you see no bottleneck there
[04:07] <flaccid> then i guess its in application layer
[04:07] <flaccid> or userspace
[04:07] <t1n0m3n> k
[04:07] <flaccid> how many browsers you tested?
[04:08] <t1n0m3n> konquerer
[04:08] <Minifig> !samba
[04:08] <ubotu> samba is is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:08] <flaccid> try opera and firefox
[04:08] <flaccid> if you have same problem then hmm
[04:08] <t1n0m3n> This is just now installed
[04:08] <t1n0m3n> kk
[04:08] <flaccid> also start the browsers from konsole to see errors
[04:08] <t1n0m3n> ahh, cool, that works
[04:10] <mihai_> flaccid i installed opera using sudo aptitude install opera
[04:10] <mihai_> How do I run it now?
[04:11] <flaccid> opera
[04:11] <mihai_> yes
[04:11] <flaccid> or opera & from konsole to go to background for example
[04:12] <mihai_> i tried typing opera
[04:12] <mihai_> bash: opera: command not found
[04:13] <flaccid> what does dpkg -l | grep -i opera return?
[04:13] <mihai_> ii  eject                                      2.1.5-2ubuntu2
[04:13] <mihai_> ejects CDs and operates CD-Changers under Li
[04:14] <flaccid> its not installed ..
[04:14] <flaccid> are you sure they are being installed?
[04:14] <t1n0m3n> interesting.  everything I try to download, downloads at 7.2KBps
[04:15] <flaccid> right
[04:15] <flaccid> what is shaping you ?
[04:15] <mihai_> flaccid: well after i typed sudo aptitude install opera looks like it got installed
[04:15] <flaccid> mihai_: pastebin the output from that command
[04:15] <flaccid> !pastebin | mihai_
[04:15] <ubotu> mihai_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:16] <mihai_> flaccid: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46401/
[04:16] <flaccid> you could be shaped around 64kbps
[04:17] <Minifig> Can anyone help me with getting KDE to see my Windows shared folder, please.
[04:17] <Minifig> I have samba installed.
[04:17] <t1n0m3n> it has to be this machine then, 32 bit kubuntu on the same laptop (I have multiple HDs) downloads at around 600 to 620 KBps
[04:17] <flaccid> mihai_: what does the command which opera return?
[04:17] <t1n0m3n> or 5Mbps
[04:18] <flaccid> thats weird t1n0m3n
[04:18] <mihai_> mihai@kubuntu:~$ opera
[04:18] <mihai_> bash: opera: command not found
[04:18] <t1n0m3n> I think it may be a driver issue and maybe the adept update will fix it
[04:19] <flaccid> your packages don't seem right mihai_ 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 3 to remove and 42 not upgraded.
[04:19] <flaccid> some important libs in there i think
[04:19] <mihai_> why it that
[04:19] <Minifig> I get this error message: 'Could not connect to host for smb://minigroup/'
[04:19] <mihai_> ok
[04:19] <t1n0m3n> I am 96% into this 2.5 hour update, I think I will see soon
[04:19] <Viper> minifig: Are you trying to share your linux folders to win, or access your windows machine from linux?
[04:20] <flaccid> mihai_: i would recommend regenerating your sources/making sure they are right then update and upgrade to make sure your system is complete. reinstall the meta pacakges ubuntu-minimal and kubuntu-desktop
[04:20] <flaccid> something is not right
[04:20] <t1n0m3n> its smb:/    one slash
[04:20] <Minifig> I am trying to have Linux access Windows 98SE.
[04:20] <flaccid> pastebin sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade ..
[04:20] <Viper> LOL, gl.... win98 folder sharing SUCKED!
[04:20] <Minifig> I have 98 with sharing enabled and one folder shared.
[04:20] <Radi01> haha
[04:21] <t1n0m3n> smb:/minigroup/
[04:21] <Viper> It was bad enough getting XP to even read those shares!
[04:21] <mihai_> flaccid : ok
[04:21] <Minifig> 98<>XP is a b...  lol
[04:21] <Viper> Try the IP address instead...
[04:21] <flaccid> you can try #samba . its not that basic and im a bit busy sorry
[04:21] <flaccid> test with smbclient
[04:22] <Radi01> My dog ate my 98 disk..he then ran away from home.
[04:22] <Minifig> lol
[04:22] <flaccid> 98 is discontinued by m$ and is a security threat
[04:23] <Radi01> I learned on 98   what a nite mare.
[04:23] <Radi01> I installed once a week
[04:23] <flaccid> horrible stuff it was
[04:23] <Viper> Easiest way to get the 98 HDD shared to a linux box: Buy an IDE-USB adapter... plug HDD into adapter, plug adapter into Linux!
[04:23] <t1n0m3n> Minifig : what did using one slash return?  smb:/minigroup/
[04:24] <Radi01> dont use (promise)
[04:24] <Radi01> junk
[04:24] <Minifig> smb:/minigroup/ turned into smb://minigroup/
[04:24] <t1n0m3n> ahh
[04:25] <Minifig> I like 98, especially since I have an old PC.  lol
[04:25] <Minifig> I use it constantly and no problems.
[04:25] <flaccid> smb4k is handy
[04:25] <flaccid> !info smb4k
[04:25] <ubotu> smb4k: A Samba (SMB) share advanced browser for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4-1 (gutsy), package size 1788 kB, installed size 3832 kB
[04:25] <Minifig> If you want a laugh, I had 98SE running 2 weeks before I finally turned off the PC.  166Mhz 128MB PB computer.
[04:25] <Radi01> I worked it to death..
[04:25] <t1n0m3n> it stays one slash in dolphin for me
[04:25] <Viper> At least 98 is still a better OS then Vista.....
[04:25] <Radi01> ya
[04:25] <flaccid> you can use dif auth settings in the config of smb4k..
[04:26] <flaccid> Viper: its not
[04:26] <Minifig> Friends don't let friends use ME or Vista.
[04:26] <Radi01> lo
[04:26] <Minifig> brb
[04:26] <Radi01> I use 2k  it inmho is pretty good
[04:26] <Viper> flaccid: 98 may not be quite as secure... but it sure is a helluva faster then vista!
[04:27] <Viper> and it may not be able to network with anything....
[04:27] <Viper> Nor can you really use that ancient OS for anything more then Sol.exe... but still ^_^
[04:27] <mihai_> Has anyone tried BeOS/Zeta?
[04:28] <flaccid> speed means nothing. 98 has no firewall.
[04:28] <Radi01> I used zone labs.
[04:28] <Radi01> had t
[04:28] <Radi01> to'
[04:28] <Minifig> I use Windows 98 with the POwer Pack and Revolutions installed.
[04:28] <Ahmuck>  6613 ?        S      0:06 d3lphin -icon d3lphin -miniicon d3lphin -caption Dolphin system:/media
[04:28] <Ahmuck> does that look right?
[04:28] <Viper> Yeah, I'd prefer ZA or Linux over M$'s firewall anytime.
[04:28] <Ahmuck> d#lphin ?
[04:29] <Radi01> dolphin
[04:29] <Ahmuck> yes, but look at the process.  it says d#lphin
[04:29] <Ahmuck> er, d3lphin
[04:29] <EightiesK> hey is EDUbuntu kde or gnome?
[04:29] <Radi01> thats the old name
[04:29] <Ahmuck> ah, ok
[04:30] <adamonline46> Can anyone help me get to this channel using kopete?  I seem to be lame... 8)
[04:30] <kub^> hi have a noob question with amarok, when i install a new style it just stays the same, do i need to restart x or something?
[04:31] <Minifig> Load kopete and add IRC
[04:31] <Minifig> Choose Freenode
[04:31] <underdog44> can somebody here help me with an stunnel4 probelm?
[04:31] <Minifig> then join channel #kubuntu
[04:31] <Viper> The themes are buggy in amarok... You may need to reboot...
[04:31] <Viper> minifig, we're in kubuntu...
[04:31] <Minifig> I am using Kopete right now as my main messenger.
[04:32] <Dr_willis> kub^,  perhaps restart amarok.
[04:32] <Minifig> Viper someone asked how to get here in Kopete.
[04:32] <kub^> tried restarting amarok i'll give restarting x a go or rebooting pc, thanks :)
[04:32] <Minifig>  Can anyone help me get to this channel using kopete?  I seem to be lame...
[04:33] <flaccid> Minifig: use /join #kubuntu
[04:33] <Minifig> That was from adamonline46
[04:33] <Dr_willis> Minifig,  you mean to say you cant figre out how to use kopete?
[04:33] <Minifig> No, I was answering the message from adamonline46
[04:33] <Viper> Oh, not paying attention.... right right
[04:33] <Dr_willis> heh
[04:33]  * Dr_willis goes back to sleep/
[04:33] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:33] <Minifig> I adore Kopete.
[04:33] <Dr_willis> ill stick with xchat for now
[04:33] <Minifig> I am actually adoring Linux also.  lol
[04:33] <Viper> Kopete is cool, until you connect to Y! on another machine with kopete still connected....
[04:34] <Radi01> I like my paper cup.
[04:34] <Minifig> I used to badmouth and really put down Linux.
[04:34] <Minifig> Not anymore.  lol
[04:34] <Viper> heh
[04:34] <Viper> Once you pop.......
[04:34] <Minifig> lol
[04:34] <Minifig> I have 2 versions installed, if you wanna call it that.
[04:34] <adamonline46> Minifig: It works now!  :O
[04:34] <Radi01> me 2 both
[04:34] <Minifig> Kubuntu Linux and LInux Mint KDE
[04:35] <Minifig> Wonderful adamonline46
[04:35] <adamonline46> Minifig: ty
[04:35] <Minifig> Glad to help.
[04:35] <Radi01> I tried mandrake..what a disaster
[04:35] <Minifig> I tried Mandriva, but not Mandrake.
[04:35] <Radi01> same
[04:35] <Minifig> Oh.  lol
[04:36] <Radi01> it lasted 3 installs and went to the recycle box out back
[04:37] <Minifig> When it comes to using Linux, it helps of you're not a gamer, or not a BIG gamer.  lol
[04:37] <Dr_willis> Minifig,  You do realize that under Linux Mint - you can just install 'kubuntu-desktop'  :)
[04:37] <flaccid> i have to change vid drivers to play games like et
[04:37] <Ahmuck> so what's different about linux mint?
[04:37] <Radi01> mihai is really having a hard time..poor kid.
[04:37] <Dr_willis> Ahmuck,  codecs and a few toher things installed by default.
[04:38] <Minifig> Its quite interesting.  Seems to come with alot more installed than normal.
[04:38] <Dr_willis> Ahmuck,  and a few config tools.
[04:38] <jetsaredim> anyone know of a way to stack multiple xvid video files into a single dvd?
[04:38] <t1n0m3n> ok this is getting weird, I can do a samba transfer at 8.5 MBps
[04:38] <Minifig> Compiz, java, and other hard to install stuff.
[04:38] <Minifig> I still cannot get samba to work.
[04:38] <Ahmuck> jessaredim, as in so you can watch in multiples?
[04:39] <Ahmuck> er, sequence
[04:39] <Minifig> I think it does work in Kubuntu, but not sure how it was done.
[04:39] <flaccid> bbl
[04:39] <Ahmuck> Minifig: smb
[04:39] <Minifig> smb is installed.
[04:39] <Dr_willis> Minifig,  most of that stuff can be installed rather trivially under Gutsy Now. :)
[04:39] <t1n0m3n> flaccid; you think this could be some ipv6 issues?
[04:39] <Dr_willis> You installed the 'samba' package?
[04:39] <Minifig> Yes
[04:40] <Minifig> Could not connect to host for smb://minigroup/
[04:40] <Dr_willis> did you edit the samba config? to enable some shares?
[04:40] <Minifig> No.
[04:40] <Dr_willis> did you givbe the user a samba password?
[04:40] <Dr_willis> There ya go.. :)
[04:40] <Minifig> I am still new to this Linux treasure.  lol
[04:40] <Viper> smb://user@minigroup/
[04:40] <Minifig> Need to make notes.
[04:40] <Viper> or smb://user:password@minigroup/
[04:40] <Viper> But does that work on win98?.....
[04:40] <Dr_willis> install the samba-doc package and read the 'using samba book' thats in the package.
[04:41] <Dr_willis> smb:// is kde's method of giveing samba type ur;s
[04:41] <Dr_willis> urls
[04:41] <Minifig> Will do.  I think I did tell it to install the doc.
[04:41] <Dr_willis> the default workgroup will also need 5to be set right.
[04:41] <adamonline45> Minifig: Any idea how to get rid of the 'topic' being mashed over all the chat text?
[04:42] <Minifig> No.
[04:42] <Minifig> Sorry.
[04:42] <Minifig> Where do I find the samba config file?
[04:42] <adamonline45> Minifig: That's ok...
[04:42] <adamonline45> /etc/samba/smb.conf
[04:43] <Ahmuck> i have a zip drive i added to my pc.  does kubuntu have some type of autodetect?
[04:43] <Ahmuck> ah, nm, i recall that i have ide2 switched off in the bios
[04:43] <Minifig> Thank you.  On the way.
[04:43] <Agent_bob> anyone know a way to make blind bios switch to agp card from pci card which i don't have ?
[04:44] <Viper> eh?  blind BIOS?  are you just trying to activate an AGP card when you also have an on-board GPU?
[04:45] <Agent_bob> Viper no onboard
[04:45] <Radi01> trying to get compriz to work with onboard chip?..lol
[04:45] <Viper> I think I'm lost here... but the bios should switch GPU's automatically.....  if that's what you mean...
[04:46] <Dr_willis> Viper,  yea.. any decent bios Should.. :)
[04:46] <Agent_bob> Radi01 no. trying to get vidio   the bios reset to pci   i dont have a pci vidio card to plug in the thing
[04:46] <Radi01> here is compriz with on board chip
[04:46] <Radi01>  ¿ʇı xıɟ ı uɐɔ ʍoɥ 'uʍop ǝpısdn sı uǝǝɹɔs ʎɯ
[04:46] <Radi01> lol
[04:46] <Radi01> ok
[04:46] <adamonline45> ha
[04:46] <Agent_bob> Viper one would think so.   but this one is old
[04:47] <Viper> LOL, that's awesome...
[04:47] <Viper> Bob: Reset the BIOS with the jumper?...  That may work....
[04:48] <Radi01> i pulled that in #ubuntu/ they didnt like it/ lol
[04:48] <Agent_bob> the ati agp card isn't tripping the switch to make it use it  and i can't get past bios to boot the thing headless       so  "blind bios"
[04:49] <Radi01> no bios?
[04:49] <Agent_bob> Viper i fear that the default is pci rather than agp   and that's how i got blinded
[04:49] <Agent_bob> Radi01 please keep up.
[04:50] <Radi01> ah ok
[04:50] <Viper> Hmm.... that's a good one...
[04:50] <Agent_bob> heh  i don't "cry wolf"   lol
[04:50] <Viper> Is there a GoodWill computer store nearby, or a used computer shop...
[04:50] <Agent_bob> Viper there is "nothing" nearby.
[04:50] <Viper> That's what I'd try.... just buy a cheapy $5 card.
[04:50] <Agent_bob> sand
[04:51] <Radi01> there is a hewlet packard used dept close by
[04:51] <Agent_bob> plenty of sand
[04:51] <Agent_bob> heh how did you know where i was lol
[04:51] <Viper> Well, I wouldn't suggest trying that to get PCI to work... silicate may not be friendly to mobo's....
[04:52] <Viper> Dallas....
[04:52] <Radi01> I still have a paqard bell around some where
[04:52] <Agent_bob> Viper one one think.
[04:52] <Viper> Oh, you're on the level3 network, cool...
[04:53] <Confused> Can someone please, please help me?
[04:53] <Viper> Not if you don't tell us your problem....
[04:53] <Confused> Heheh.
[04:53] <Confused> I just switched to Kubuntu from Winxp.
[04:53] <Agent_bob> Radi01 brand on the tower is "zeos-486"  heh  but it's had plenty of transplants and face lifts maybe a tummy tuck
[04:53] <Viper> Grats on the upgrade ^_^
[04:53] <Confused> I feel as if I had been dropped in the middle of China...
[04:54] <Radi01> a whole 12 mhz?
[04:54] <Viper> That's the general feeling for the first month of so.
[04:54] <Agent_bob> oh don't be silly 486's reached 66mhz without over clocking
[04:54] <yurimxpxman> what's the best browser ID setting to view gmail in konqueror?
[04:54] <Confused> I went out a bought a Wireless USB Adapter.
[04:55] <Radi01> ya I forgot 66 mhz
[04:55] <Viper> Yeah bob, I'd try to find a PCI card laying around somewhere, or borrow it from a friend, etc... that's probably your only choice.
[04:55] <Viper> confused: and you can't get wifi working?
[04:55] <Confused> I tried to install the drivers but Kubuntu doesnt like exe files.
[04:55] <t1n0m3n> well, I am re-installing kubuntu right now and I see the same exact problem, 7.2 KBps to the internet, I guess I will load the 7.10 32 bit install and chalk this up to a bug
[04:55] <Confused> I'm not sure if it works with Linux.
[04:55] <Viper> What's the model of the device?
[04:56] <Radi01> good luck t
[04:56] <Agent_bob> Viper looking that way.   unless i can find a way to make bios attempt a boot with out recognizing any vidio     that's what i was hopping for.
[04:56] <Confused> D-Link WDA-130
[04:56] <Viper> Well, first thing..... erm... what's the package manager called in KDE?....
[04:56] <Confused> DWA***
[04:56] <Confused> eh....
[04:56] <Confused> ^.^?
[04:56] <t1n0m3n> Viper: adept
[04:56] <Viper> Thank you!
[04:57]  * Viper is running Gnome presently....
[04:57] <Viper> Open up adept and look for a program called ndiswrapper
[04:57] <Confused> Adept?
[04:57] <Confused> Oh.
[04:57] <Viper> There should be a search option somewhere....
[04:57] <Radi01> @ the top
[04:57] <Confused> I had to transfer that to my computer.
[04:57] <adamonline45> Does anyone here have a core2duo macbook, and perchance be willing to help me out with a couple things?
[04:57] <Agent_bob> Radi01 i said the brand on the tower,  the mainboard has been changed ya know.  k6 cpu  still old but  not 486 class
[04:57] <Confused> And it just gave me a bunch of text documents :(
[04:57] <t1n0m3n> kmenu > System > Adept Manager
[04:58] <Radi01> ya 500 mhz?
[04:58] <Agent_bob> 6
[04:58] <Radi01> ah
[04:58] <Confused> one sec
[04:58] <yurimxpxman> what's the best browser ID setting to view gmail in konqueror?
[04:58] <Confused> gotta run to the other comp
[04:59] <Agent_bob> ie-6 yurimxpxman ?
[04:59] <Confused> It asked me for a password?
[05:00] <Viper> adept did, then enter your password....
[05:00] <yurimxpxman> Agent_bob: haha.. it says it requires activex
[05:00] <Viper> LOL
[05:00] <Confused> What password..o_O?
[05:00] <Viper> your user password
[05:00] <Confused> aah
[05:00] <Confused> k
[05:00] <yurimxpxman> Agent_bob: looks like only the old version of gmail will work with konqueror (must be set to FF 1.5*)
[05:01] <Viper> Anytime you open an application that is an administrative-type program, you need to type in your password.
[05:01] <Viper> It's a security feature on Linux, much like the "Are you sure you meant to click on this file", "Are you sure you wanted to click yes on the previous confirmation?" thing on Vista....
[05:01] <Agent_bob> yurimxpxman i didn't know.   now i do.
[05:02] <Confused> Yay, it opened.
[05:02] <yurimxpxman> konqueror makes me login to everything every time I open it.. is there any way to make it keep those cookies?
[05:02] <Confused> Now what?
[05:02] <Viper> in the search bar, type in     ndiswrapper
[05:02] <Confused> k
[05:02] <Viper> you should see ndisgtk, ndi... common, and utils.
[05:02] <Viper> Right-click -> Request Install.
[05:03] <Viper> It may say that it needs some packages, or dependencies.. go ahead and confirm them.
[05:03] <Agent_bob> hey hey hey,  i got it to boot the linux cd   but there still hasn't been any activity on the monitor...    does linux have to have bios to access vidio ???
[05:03] <Confused> Nothing showed up.
[05:03] <t1n0m3n> yurimxpxman: Make sure tools > HTML settings > Cookies is checked
[05:04] <yurimxpxman> t1n0m3n: yeah, it is.. and I don't have the "treat all cookies as session cookies" checked, either..
[05:04] <Radi01> I think so bob..i once forgot to have my bat in and it kept looking and would not boot
[05:04] <adamonline45> Agent_bob: No, I use efi...
[05:04] <Viper> Somewhere he has to enable 'universe' repository...
[05:04] <Confused> I downloaded ndiswrapper and put the folder to the desktop, but it just gave me a bunch of coding in text documents...
[05:04] <Agent_bob> efi ?   electronic fuel injection ?
[05:04] <Viper> tin || radio, remember where that is in KDE's Adept?
[05:05] <adamonline45> hehheh... no, it's intels new 'bios', used on macbooks
[05:05] <Radi01> oh no
[05:05] <Viper> Confused: If you can help it, don't download source like that... it's not healthy for your sanity ^_^
[05:05] <adamonline45> no me likes it ho
[05:05] <adamonline45> er, tho*
[05:05] <Confused> But someplace online said I was suppose to get ndiswrapper...
[05:05] <Viper> There's a better way to get it...
[05:05] <Radi01> sudo apt-get uninstall ./bill gates
[05:06] <Viper> I'm trying to find where the option is...
[05:06] <Confused> Okay...
[05:06] <Confused> heheh
[05:06] <Agent_bob> lol
[05:06] <t1n0m3n> adept > manage repositories
[05:06] <Agent_bob> sudo dpkg -P bill-gates
[05:06] <t1n0m3n> check the "community maintained" checkbox
[05:07] <Agent_bob> ooops forgot     --force-all ^
[05:07] <t1n0m3n> actually I just check them all
[05:07] <hydrogen> bill gates is community maintained?
[05:07] <Radi01> ya lol
[05:07] <Viper> LOL
[05:07] <t1n0m3n> sorry that was for viper
[05:07] <Confused> :-\...
[05:08] <adamonline45> -purge?
[05:08] <Viper> In the menu Adept, there's an option Manage Reps..  does it do anything for ya?
[05:08] <Confused> I've been searching google for 3 hours on how to use Linux...
[05:08] <Confused> Uhm...
[05:08] <Confused> let me check
[05:09] <t1n0m3n> it is on the menu along the top, confused, inside of adept
[05:09] <Confused> It brought up a list of words that all seem to be faded.
[05:09] <Viper> G.D. people on comcast trying to poke at my ports 1026/1027.. stop it, I'm not running winblows already!
[05:09] <Confused> At the bottom says "New Resp"
[05:09] <Radi01> lol
[05:09]  * Agent_bob needs lessons on how to use a computer...     actually no.  he doesn't need a teacher, he likes being a self made moron.
[05:10] <Radi01> Thats why I use adsl
[05:10] <Radi01> screw scamcast
[05:10] <Viper> Those idiots are fine.. they're safely behind my firewall.  It's just bothersome.
[05:11] <Radi01> me 2
[05:11] <Confused> To install drivers for my Wireless USB Device I need to use the inf files?
[05:11] <t1n0m3n> disable gatuitus pings and you will see hack attempts go down by about 90% over a month or two
[05:11] <Viper> yeah
[05:11] <t1n0m3n> lol
[05:11] <t1n0m3n> *gratuitus* that is
[05:11] <Viper> You need an INF file and the SYS file, probably named similiarly.
[05:11] <Radi01> in firefox?
[05:11] <Confused> yeah
[05:11] <Radi01> firestarter
[05:11] <Confused> I found both of those files... But how?
[05:11] <Viper> ^_^
[05:12] <Viper> Somewhere on that page Adept -> Manage reps., there's an option to enable community, or universe.. something like that
[05:12] <Confused> then what?
[05:13] <t1n0m3n> Viper: it is "Community-maintained Open Source software (universe)
[05:13] <Agent_bob> !repos | Viper this what you want ?
[05:13] <ubotu> Viper this what you want ?: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:13] <Viper> save changes (if any button), and go back to search.... look for ndiswrapper
[05:13] <Viper> Yeah, I'm running gnome, and adept's acting up... so I'm trying to walk him through blindly.. lol
[05:13] <t1n0m3n> it will pop up a reload dialog box too
[05:14] <Agent_bob> are we all playing "blind man's bluff" today ?
[05:14] <Viper> Evidently so....
[05:14] <t1n0m3n> I am running off of the live cd, lol
[05:14] <Confused> heheh thanks alot...
[05:14] <Confused> but..ehmm..
[05:15] <Confused> Do I hit the reset button...?
[05:15] <Viper> yeah
[05:15] <Viper> sure...
[05:15] <Radi01> on that k6
[05:15] <Viper> why not?
[05:15] <Confused> k....
[05:15] <Viper> lol
[05:15] <t1n0m3n> Confused: reload right?
[05:15] <Viper> The reset || reload wtf the is... should get the new list of files you can download.
[05:15] <t1n0m3n> yep
[05:16] <Viper> Then the prized ndiswrapper should be downloadable.
[05:16]  * Viper whispers to tinomen, 'after this we can tell him about Wine ^_^'
[05:16] <Agent_bob> well looks like that box just became spair parts.   not a pci vidio card within miles of here.
[05:17] <Viper> bob, send me your add and $4 for shipping, I'll send ya one ^_^  I've got PCI's o'plenty.
[05:17] <Confused> I'm not on the internet with that computer....
[05:17] <Agent_bob> i'd send you my address.  but then i'd have to kill you...
[05:17] <Radi01> lol
[05:17] <t1n0m3n> Viper: actually the "W" in 7.10 is tons better than it was in 7.04
[05:18] <Agent_bob> and we dont want that.
[05:18] <Confused> My delimma is that I need to find a way that will allow me to install the INF files for the drivers so that my wireless usb will work.
[05:19] <Viper> Yeah, I know!  I tried 7.10 on another laptop, quite nice!
[05:19] <Confused> I hit the manage resp button and it didn't do anything but give me these weird faded links.
[05:19] <t1n0m3n> OK, install is done, brb with installed 64 bit kubuntu goodness
[05:19] <Viper> NDISwrapper allows you to install M$ INF files for wireless devices on linux.
[05:20] <Confused> oh
[05:20] <Confused> Heheh
[05:20] <Confused> Then how do I get ndiswrapper?
[05:20] <Confused> :-D
[05:20] <Viper> Nothing comes up when you go back to the main screen?...
[05:20] <Confused> In Adept?
[05:20] <Viper> yeah
[05:20] <Confused> Unless I searched in the wrong search bar...
[05:21] <Viper> oh wait, does the machine your installing ndiswrapper have internet now?
[05:21] <Confused> Nope
[05:21] <NickPresta> LOL
[05:21] <Viper> ah, tiss be your problem
[05:21] <Confused> :(
[05:21] <Viper> I just caught you saying that above....
[05:21] <NickPresta> Confused, if you don't have internet, you can't install packages from the Repos
[05:21] <Radi01> oi
[05:21] <Confused> But I need to install the inf to get the internet...
[05:21] <Confused> I seem to be in a paradox..
[05:21] <Viper> can't you plug a cable into it?
[05:21] <NickPresta> Confused, if you like, you can download the deb package and transfer it via USB or floppy/CD and install it locally
[05:22] <Confused> That sounds a lot easier.
[05:22] <NickPresta> Confused, give me a minute to get you the Gutsy deb
[05:22] <Confused> Would you be able to provide me with a juicy link?
[05:22] <Radi01> do U have pay pal
[05:22] <Viper> AMD 64 or i386?
[05:23] <NickPresta> Confused, I'm downloading it as we speak
[05:23] <Confused> whats gutsy deb?
[05:23] <Viper> it's ubuntu 7.10
[05:23] <Viper> the fancy name for it....
[05:24] <Confused> I have a 1gb usb, will that work?
[05:24] <Viper> Well, Gutsy is the name, a deb is an installation file, much like M$'s MSI file or EXE installer.
[05:24] <Viper> Yeah, ndis is about 3Mb.
[05:24] <Viper> correction, 500k
[05:24] <tamgo> stupid questions: in kde 4, how do I switch virtual desktops? How do I move plasma icons?
[05:24] <Confused> Er...
[05:24] <Confused> Wait, what am I installing?
[05:24] <Confused> UBuntu or ndis?
[05:25] <Viper> The other machine you are trying to get wifi running on is running Ubuntu, right?
[05:25] <Viper> er, Kubuntu, same diff....
[05:25] <NickPresta> Confused, ndiswrapper-common (http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/misc/ndiswrapper-common) ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 (http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/misc/ndiswrapper-utils-1.9). Click on the "architecture" link to donwload the package
[05:25] <t1n0m3n> tamgo: Ctrl+F1 ... F2 ... etc
[05:25] <Confused> Viper: Yes.
[05:26] <t1n0m3n> Confused: Could you refresh my memory and tell me what WiFi chipset you are using?
[05:27] <Viper> D-Link DWA-130
[05:27] <Confused> Probably one that isn't supported by linux.
[05:27] <Confused> heheh
[05:27] <Confused> Yeah.
[05:27] <t1n0m3n> kk thx
[05:27] <Viper> With ndiswrapper, it should work....
[05:27] <Confused> Uhm..
[05:27] <Confused> Which one am I downloading?
[05:27] <Viper> both
[05:27] <t1n0m3n> breaking out some google goodness so I can learn while viper is helping
[05:27] <NickPresta> Confused, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#head-f23c29cc02764d709130d736be45147457c69eab Follow those instructions after you install ndiswrapper and have your windows inf file
[05:28] <NickPresta> Confused, you download both the common and utils file.
[05:28] <Confused> k
[05:29] <Viper> I was trying to find the gtk package also...
[05:29] <Confused> Do I have to dl all of those files?
[05:29] <Confused> I clicked the first one, and it gave me like 10 more links.
[05:29] <Confused> lol
[05:29] <Confused> I clicked the list of files...
[05:29] <Confused> vm
[05:29] <Confused> nvm
[05:30] <NickPresta> Confused, you click on your Architecture link (i386, or All, if there is no difference) Then it should give you a list of mirrors
[05:30] <Agent_bob>     well. i guess some days you eat the bear, and some days the bear eats you...     i guess today i'm Ursus repast   ;/
[05:32] <Confused> Sorry.
[05:32] <Confused> Wron botton...
[05:32] <Agent_bob> oh by the way.   does anyone know a way "without doing a full e2fsck"  to set the state bit to "clean" ?
[05:33] <Viper> do the full scan and go to sleep......
[05:33] <Agent_bob> doesn't fit within specified parameters ^
[05:34] <Radi01> What do U want cleaned
[05:34] <Agent_bob> ext2 fs
[05:34] <Viper> HAH!  finally found that damn ndisgtk....
[05:35] <Confused> Yay
[05:35] <Agent_bob> it's not dirty, just marked as such.
[05:35] <Viper> This util will help you also, this way you won't need to mess with the command line.
[05:35] <Confused> Putting the files on my usb
[05:35] <Radi01> kleansweeper?
[05:35] <Confused> <3
[05:35] <Confused> So... Why is linux better than windows?
[05:35] <Viper> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/n/ndisgtk/ndisgtk_0.7.2-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb for x84_64
[05:35] <Viper> http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/n/ndisgtk/ndisgtk_0.7.2-1ubuntu1_i386.deb if it's 32-bit
[05:35] <Agent_bob> Radi01 heh no.
[05:36] <Confused> I want to download those aswell?
[05:36] <Viper> Yeah
[05:36] <Viper> One or the other...
[05:36] <Viper> If you have a 64-bit instll, then chose that, if you have a regular, chose the 32.
[05:36] <Agent_bob> Confused    EULA?    price?      doesn't get virii?        support community?
[05:36] <Viper> Or if you have a 64-bit in still....... erm
[05:36] <Agent_bob> business practices ?
[05:37] <Confused> Bob... That went in one ear and out the other...
[05:37] <Viper> M$ newest OS: $400, Linux newest: $0.00
[05:37] <Confused> ohh
[05:37] <Radi01> yay
[05:37] <Confused> Hehehe.
[05:37] <Viper> M$ releases: 6-years apart: linux: 6-months max
[05:37] <Viper> M$: Phone support over in India.....
[05:37] <Radi01> M$ spayware linux not
[05:37] <Viper> Linux: us ^_^
[05:38] <Agent_bob> Confused and did i mention,  that you own your linux os, it's yours.   and you rent the right to use in the way they dictate their os
[05:38] <hydrogen> staying on topic?: priceless
[05:38] <Viper> It's on topic... See linux in the discussion?
[05:38] <Agent_bob> hydrogen he asked.  i'm on topic this time.
[05:38] <Agent_bob> :)
[05:38] <NickPresta> Viper, this is the Kubuntu support channel. General chatter in #kubuntu-offtopic
[05:38] <hydrogen> Viper: I see ms in the discussion as well as linux
[05:39] <jalbert> Linux doesn't get viruses, doesn't need to be rebooted after sofware installation, doesn't need to be defragmented, can read any filesystems of other OSs...
[05:39] <hydrogen> at that point its no longer about support
[05:39] <jalbert> runs faster
[05:39] <jalbert> takes up less space
[05:39] <jalbert> has less bullsh*t in general
[05:39] <Agent_bob> more powerfull
[05:39] <hydrogen> less polished
[05:39] <jalbert> you can actually have control over your machine
[05:40] <Confused> Will I still be able to Run Age of Empires, and various video games?
[05:40] <Viper> possibly with Wine
[05:40] <t1n0m3n> lol spayware
[05:40] <hydrogen> !appdb
[05:40] <ubotu> The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org
[05:40] <jalbert> sure
[05:40] <Agent_bob> hydrogen there aren't very many of us that actually count that as a plus tho
[05:40] <jalbert> Wine, WMware
[05:40] <jalbert> *VMware*
[05:40] <hydrogen> running games in vmware is a lot like pulling ones teeth out through ones cornea
[05:41]  * Viper agrees
[05:41] <Agent_bob> ouch
[05:41] <Viper> your better off with wine.
[05:41] <jalbert> yeah
[05:41] <Agent_bob> one must needs ask, "why remove the teeth?"
[05:41] <jalbert> VMware does have a lot more overhead
[05:41] <t1n0m3n> I run WoW under wine and it works great
[05:41] <Radi01> ram killer
[05:42] <jalbert> yeah most Adobe aps do too
[05:42] <Viper> Confused || Trillis, get those files alirght?
[05:42] <jalbert> so does HalfLife 2
[05:42] <Trillis> yeah
[05:42] <Trillis> Sorry.
[05:42] <Trillis> I've been reading this conversation and entertaining company.
[05:43] <t1n0m3n> you've been reading this converstion to your company?
[05:43] <t1n0m3n> j/k
[05:43] <Trillis> Heheh, no.
[05:43] <Trillis> I've been being talked at by my company.
[05:44] <Viper> ah, well, when you get ready to install them on your machine that needs ndis, either double-click (or single-click in KDE), or in the konsole terminal: sudo dpkg -i ndisgtk_0.7.2-1ubuntu...deb ndiswraper-common-version.dep ndiswrapper-other-file......deb
[05:44] <Trillis> Whilst reading your conversations and gigling inside.
[05:44] <t1n0m3n> kk, was wondering about the nerdiness of your company
[05:44] <Radi01> talking and typing is rude..lol
[05:44] <Agent_bob> linux has traditionally been more for the "hacker" "cracker" "programmer" and "geek"  than for the "point and click, never read the message, just click yes"   type crouds   if you fit any of those you'll love it.
[05:44] <Trillis> I've been more the point and click...
[05:45] <t1n0m3n> my company, that would be normal... but you never know
[05:45] <Viper> I think we could have guessed.... ^_^
[05:45] <Radi01> point and hack
[05:45] <Trillis> Transerfering the files now.
[05:45] <Trillis> Viper I still have to dl the oens you gave me.
[05:45] <Viper> "Never underestimate the bandwidth of a stationwagon flying down the interstate loaded with data tapes"
[05:45] <t1n0m3n> lol
[05:46] <Viper> **or now-a-days:  flying down loaded with USB-keys....
[05:46] <Radi01> my modem is solar powered.
[05:46] <Trillis> Okay
[05:46] <Trillis> I have three files I need to transfer?
[05:47] <Trillis> The two bob gave me and one of the two Viper gave me, correct?
[05:47] <Viper> OMFG.. I need to do an IP-physical address reverse lookup and slap these damn win users who keep trying to access those ports....
[05:47] <Viper> Yeah
[05:47] <Trillis> k
[05:47] <Radi01> prolly queers
[05:47] <t1n0m3n> arin.net?
[05:47] <Viper> No, they're neighbors judging by the IP's.... they're the same subnet as me...
[05:48] <Trillis> okay
[05:48] <Trillis> when I extract them to the comp wth linux, then what?
[05:48] <Trillis> Should I put them any where specific?
[05:48] <t1n0m3n> lol, my video card is saying it needs to resart the comp... weird  I could probably get away with an X restart...  oh well brb
[05:48] <Trillis> Or just drag them on to my desktop?
[05:48] <Viper> desktop
[05:48] <Trillis> k
[05:48] <Viper> click // dbl click on them...
[05:48] <Trillis> nbrb
[05:49] <Agent_bob> heh is that  // right dbl click     or  \\ left dbl click    ?   :)
[05:50] <jalbert> hey can anyone recommend a good irc fileserver?
[05:50] <Viper> erm... ftpd?....
[05:50] <Radi01> what uses those ports
[05:50] <Agent_bob> which ports ?
[05:51] <Radi01> the ones that are being banged @ vipers place
[05:51] <Viper> What?  The ones that these dips keep poking?... it's some micro, erm... other OS.. **looks at H**, program.
[05:51] <Radi01> ah
[05:51] <Trillis> er...
[05:51] <Viper> 1026 and 1027
[05:51] <Trillis> "Utility is not in the path" or some kind of error when I click on them...
[05:52] <Viper> I forgot exactly what they do, but a quick online google will retrieve what they do.
[05:52] <Viper> Ok, then try this:  Open terminal or Konsole (both same)
[05:52] <Trillis> Is this when I go to Adept?
[05:52] <Viper> It's in the menu under system or utilities I think...
[05:52] <Trillis> Guess not.
[05:52] <Viper> type    cd Desktop
[05:53] <Viper> followed by    sudo dpkg -i ndis*.deb
[05:53] <Viper> **and enter your password when it requests is**
[05:53] <Agent_bob> Viper grep in /etc/services   nothing is defaulted there
[05:53] <Radi01> callander axcess porst
[05:53] <Trillis> So I go to the Konsole
[05:53] <Trillis> type in
[05:54] <Viper> It's access radio?  wtf....
[05:54] <Trillis> sudo dpkg -i ndis* .deb
[05:54] <Radi01> i"m not as think as you drunk i am.
[05:54] <Viper> You forgot      cd Desktop
[05:54] <Trillis> damn
[05:54] <t1n0m3n> before I get deep into the google, can anyone tell me the best way to disable ipv6?
[05:54] <Agent_bob> Radi01 sober not me some more ?
[05:54] <Trillis> cd Desktop then sudo dpkg -i ndis* .deb?
[05:54] <Viper> yup
[05:54] <Radi01> hiccup
[05:55] <Trillis> k
[05:55] <Trillis> brb
[05:55] <Viper> I think that'll work.... lol
[05:55] <stdin> t1n0m3n: put "blacklist ipv6" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[05:56] <t1n0m3n> stdin: thx!
[05:56] <Viper> If nothing else, it's good excersize for him....
[05:57] <Trillis> k
[05:57] <Trillis> It filled the konsole up with errors.
[05:57] <Trillis> :-D
[05:57] <Viper> Ahhh, port 1026UDP is that annoying messenger thing....
[05:58] <Radi01> it said allot of spam on that one 2
[05:58] <Agent_bob> the errors are actually encoded clues that linux geeks use to send messages about what really happened to your program.
[05:58] <Viper> Hmm..
[05:58] <Viper> I still think that you should just plug a cable into the box and download the packages that way....
[05:58] <Trillis> Something about dependance issues...
[05:59] <Viper> GAH, we forgot about them...
[05:59] <Trillis> what exactly does the sudo command do?
[05:59] <Trillis> What?
[05:59] <Agent_bob> 42
[05:59] <Viper> sudo allows you to run an application as the 'root' user.
[05:59] <Viper> Or it does 42 according to bob...
[06:00] <Radi01> lol
[06:00] <Radi01> ya 10
[06:00] <Trillis> I thought 42 was the answer to everything?
[06:00] <Trillis> :(
[06:00] <Agent_bob> Trillis   man <any_command_you_want_to_read_about>
[06:00] <hydrogen> and hope that it ships with a man page
[06:00] <hydrogen> or use the awesome man kioslave
[06:00] <INIT_6> to make kde4 run right do you have to have kde4libs?
[06:00] <Agent_bob> hydrogen ubuntu does
[06:00] <jalbert> 42 is the answer to Life, The Universe and Everything
[06:00] <Radi01> when in terminal hit tab 2wice it gives a list
[06:00] <hydrogen> and view it at man:/command in konqueror
[06:00] <t1n0m3n> !42
[06:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 42 - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <t1n0m3n> lol
[06:00] <hydrogen> Agent_bob: right, but all commands availible in ubuntu do not
[06:01] <Trillis> Er... Now what am I doing?
[06:01] <stdin> INIT_6: yeah, every kde(4) app needs kde(4)libs
[06:01] <t1n0m3n> err...hmm
[06:02] <Trillis> After the konsole got errors
[06:02] <Viper> well, dependencies are how Linux controls cross-application ... troublefreeness....
[06:02] <Viper> It's late, that's the best terminology I can think of...
[06:02] <Trillis> ah.
[06:02] <Radi01> east coast?
[06:02] <Trillis> What should I do now?
[06:02] <Viper> But, we can rattle off all the deps that those apps need and you can download them, then try to install all at the same time using the dpkg command....
[06:02] <Agent_bob> hydrogen only ones that i know of that don't are bash builtin's and gui crap.    the built-ins     help <blah>   works.      ummmm or there might be a few scripts that ubuntu adds that don't have a manpage    idk about that.  i just  less `which script` on those.
[06:03] <Viper> Or just plug a damn cable intot he machine and run the online updater, which will install all of the deps without you hassling over it.
[06:03] <isa268[FAN]> get a cable and hook it up directly to the net.  IMO
[06:03] <Trillis> would the command just be dpkg -i ndis* .deb?
[06:03] <INIT_6> When i try to install kde4libs and kde4libs-data it breaks. and tried it in command line also.
[06:03] <Viper> radio: Yeah, I'm a few timezones east of ya.
[06:03] <Trillis> The computer is upstairs.
[06:03] <INIT_6> whines about a broken pipe
[06:03] <Radi01> im in the same place
[06:03] <Trillis> And I don't have a long enough ethernet cord to reach.
[06:03] <stdin> INIT_6: just install "kdebase-dev-kde4 kdebase-workspace-dev kdebase-runtime"
[06:03] <Agent_bob> Trillis yes.     sudo dpkg -i /path/to/package-name.deb
[06:04] <Viper> Unplug all the cords, and drag the tower downstaris!
[06:04] <Viper> As long as you don't trip over the down stars..... erm....
[06:04] <Radi01> lol
[06:04] <Agent_bob> and it will error out with the missing dependancies   and you can install them the same way
[06:05] <Viper> don't you mean, it won't error out...
[06:05] <Agent_bob> no. i mean it will.
[06:05] <Agent_bob> but we'll see.
[06:05] <Viper> WEll, it'll just display a notice to intall them too...
[06:05] <Agent_bob> yeah and fail to configure the package
[06:06] <Agent_bob> and thus have to retry to configure it each time dpkg runs
[06:07] <Trillis> o_O
[06:07] <Trillis> okay
[06:07] <Agent_bob> or one might say it will "half install a broken package"   that when you install the last of the deps will become "installed and not broken"
[06:07] <Trillis> I'm going to drag it downstairs.
[06:07] <Viper> ndisgtk requires python >= 2.5, but < 3, ndiswrapper-util, python-gtk, and python-glade2.....
[06:07] <Trillis> I'll be ack.
[06:08] <Viper> See why manually installing software is a pain trillis?
[06:08] <Agent_bob> too late
[06:08] <Viper> I guess he didn't..
[06:08] <Viper> Oh well, he's draggin the machine down anyways.
[06:09] <jalbert> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZN1puUwH0c
[06:09] <Viper> erm, a random utube vide.. do we even want to?..
[06:09] <Viper> Ok, that works
[06:10] <Agent_bob> short answer,  no
[06:10] <t1n0m3n> pasting it to my other machine to watch, this one still cant D/L fast enough to watch it
[06:10] <Viper> don't
[06:10] <Viper> it's worthless
[06:11] <Agent_bob> i still don't know why the bot doesn't auto ban if youtube.com/  is in the url ...
[06:12] <stdin> because ubotu can't ban anyone
[06:12] <Viper> it can't?....
[06:12] <stdin> nope
[06:13] <Agent_bob> not the only bot in the channel
[06:13] <maduser> whats the banning bot?
[06:13] <stdin> it's the only "active" bot (or it should be)
[06:13] <t1n0m3n> ok, I should have listened to viper
[06:13] <Viper> LOL
[06:13] <Agent_bob> i agree you don't want bot wars
[06:14] <Viper> Why not, that could be fun ^_^
[06:14] <maduser> have you ever seen a bot war?
[06:14] <Agent_bob> *!ubotu tell 'otherbot' about help
[06:14] <t1n0m3n> is that where you get 2 bots to respond to each other?
[06:15] <Agent_bob> or kick eachother if they are oped
[06:15] <t1n0m3n> lol
[06:15] <maduser> once on another irc channel i got the banning bot to ban the info bot
[06:15] <joseph> that's always fun
[06:16] <Radi01> We used to get that to happen in icq  was way funny
[06:16] <Agent_bob> why ?     you disrupt the normal chatter for that ?

[06:16] <Viper> wow.... an IRC infi-loop situation... like the autoaway message being bounced continuesly....
[06:16] <Agent_bob> some people get their jollies in the strangest ways.
[06:16] <stdin> off-topic chat should be in #kubuntu-offtopic ;)
[06:16] <maduser> ok
[06:17] <Agent_bob> unless you are talking to stdin :)
[06:17] <Viper> Yeah we know, just making idle chat since no one is requesting help ATM.
[06:18] <maduser> true
[06:18] <stdin> Viper: yeah, but we have a whole (dead) channel for that :)
[06:18] <t1n0m3n> ok, I need help
[06:18] <maduser> whats the problem?
[06:18] <t1n0m3n> I am having issues installing bonzi buddy
[06:18] <Agent_bob> t1n0m3n 42
[06:18] <t1n0m3n> lol
[06:18] <maduser> you don't need to ask to ask for jelp
[06:18] <stdin> jelp?
[06:18] <stdin> :p
[06:18] <Agent_bob> yelp
[06:18] <t1n0m3n> ok, I just always wanted to say that
[06:19] <maduser> say waht?
[06:19] <t1n0m3n> ask for help installing bonzi buddy on a linux irc channel
[06:19] <Radi01> hahaha
[06:19] <NickPresta> Out of curiosity, I came across 'hot-babe' when looking at medibuntu a couple days ago. I decided to check it out, purely out of curiosity, and it locked up X so bad I had to restart my machine. Anyone else with the same prolem?
[06:19] <NickPresta> s/prolem/problem
[06:20] <maduser> hot babe?
[06:20] <NickPresta> http://dindinx.net/hotbabe/ Might be NSFW but has no nudity
[06:20] <Agent_bob> surely just out of curiosity.  nothing more.
[06:20] <NickPresta> heh. Male curiosity :P
[06:20] <Radi01> honest
[06:20] <Agent_bob> :)
[06:21] <maduser> yeah that what i need
[06:21]  * Agent_bob sheepishly admits to peeking at a magizine cover one time.
[06:21] <maduser> just the cover?
[06:21] <Agent_bob> only once.   and i didn't inhale
[06:21] <Agent_bob> :)
[06:22] <t1n0m3n> Agent_bob: You missed out
[06:22] <maduser> yeah
[06:22] <t1n0m3n> You should always inhale
[06:22] <NickPresta> heh. Well, I'm `cd`ing to /dreamland looking for `more dreams`. Goodnight all.
[06:22] <stdin> off-topic chat should be in #kubuntu-offtopic (and this is definitely off-topic chat)
[06:22] <hydrogen> any plans for kubuntu to redo the sound scheme to be as soothing as microsofts? http://support.microsoft.com/kb/261186
[06:22] <Radi01> chowv nick
[06:22] <Agent_bob> NickPresta shalom
[06:23] <t1n0m3n> I usually turn off all sounds in every OS I use
[06:23] <Radi01> use vlc
[06:23] <Agent_bob> sox
[06:24] <t1n0m3n> so I am not too familiar with linux sounds
[06:24] <maduser> let me see
[06:24] <Radi01> look
[06:25] <Agent_bob> open thine eye young man!
[06:26]  * Agent_bob now imagines at least nine people attempting to raise the core temp of their machines....
[06:26] <Radi01> Mine has auto temp.
[06:26] <Agent_bob> "quick, compile a kernel"
[06:26] <Viper> About sounds, I enjoyed the 'system error' sound of a laptop when the sound system kept defaulting back to MAX volume on each reboot....
[06:27] <Viper> Anyone know if KDE kept the shattering glass error sound in KDE4 that comes with gutsy?
[06:27] <yurimxpxman> what's the name of the program to install deb files?
[06:28] <Viper> dpkg
[06:28] <trillis> Hahah!
[06:28] <Viper> dpkg -i name_of_file.deb
[06:28] <t1n0m3n> OK, so here is the scoop so far:  I can download fast from my XP machine, I download slow from my x64 linux, I download fast from my x32 linux (on the same machine), I download fast from my x64 machine over smb
[06:28] <trillis> I was chatting here last time using a java applet.
[06:28] <trillis> so I was trying to install a java applet and I was lost...
[06:28] <Agent_bob> yurimxpxman apt-get install   if it's in the repos   dpkg -i   if it's on disk
[06:28] <Viper> An issue with a lib in 64?....
[06:29] <t1n0m3n> Viper: I think so, but I have yet to find a similar issue in google.
[06:29] <Viper> trillis: install a java applet?.... you don't install them.. .just make sure that you have java installed and key in java -jar /path/to/java_program.jar
[06:29] <trillis> Viper: I'm on the Linux comp, now what?
[06:29] <trillis> arg..
[06:29] <trillis> Thatpart confused me.
[06:29] <trillis> Something about this wierd SU command.
[06:29] <trillis> Apparently I don't know the password.
[06:30] <Viper> trill, what are you trying to do now, run a java command or adept?
[06:30] <trillis> Well...
[06:30] <Agent_bob> t1n0m3n only a thought,   could be that ipv6 issue   the forums has chatter about.
[06:30] <trillis> Now I'm fine.
[06:30] <trillis> I just need to get the things you told me.
[06:30] <trillis> I hooked this computer up to the internet
[06:30] <Viper> **and su works differently then sudo**
[06:31] <Viper> The load up adept_manager from the menu or sudo adept_manager from the terminal...
[06:31] <Agent_bob> trillis ummm   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f          ?
[06:31] <t1n0m3n> Agent_bob: I thought that too, I have put ipv6 in the blacklist and rebooted already
[06:31] <Viper> And Nick, this babe application looks interesting.... you said it broke X?
[06:31] <trillis> just type in sudo adept_manage in konsole?
[06:32] <trillis> manager*
[06:32] <stdin> "kdesu adept_manager"
[06:32] <Viper> Yeah, that'll load the GUI for it.
[06:32] <stdin> don't use sudo
[06:32] <Agent_bob> Viper he signed off already.
[06:32] <maduser> sudo adept_manage
[06:32] <Viper> ah... well it still look interesting none-the-less....
[06:32] <maduser> sudo adept_manager
[06:32] <trillis> Hm...
[06:32] <maduser> doesn't work
[06:32] <trillis> adept manager is open
[06:32] <Agent_bob> maduser no.   you should make it a habbit of advising  kdesu for gui apps.
[06:33] <Viper> And trill, I suppose standard knows KDE a bit more then I do, probably since he's/she's sitting at KDE...
[06:33] <stdin> do not use sudo with GUI apps...
[06:33] <trillis> Standard?
[06:33] <Viper> standard, what is the issue with sudoing GUI's?
[06:33] <stdin> !kdesu
[06:33] <ubotu> In KDE, use « kdesudo <program> » (Gutsy) or « kdesu <program> » (Feisty and earlier) to run graphical applications with root privileges when you have to. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why)
[06:33] <Viper> stdin == standard in in C++
[06:33] <Agent_bob> maduser ^ see ubotu
[06:34] <t1n0m3n> oh wow stdin, you just gave me an idea on some shell scripts
[06:34] <stdin> Viper: actually "cin" (console in) is the equivalent of stdin in C++
[06:34] <stdin> stdin in just generic :p
[06:34] <trillis> k
[06:34] <trillis> Adept manager open.
[06:34] <Viper> erm... close enough
[06:34] <Viper> Oh, sorry trill... search for ndiswrapper
[06:34] <Agent_bob> Viper also in shell scripting   linux has device /dev/stdin /devstdout /dev/stderr
[06:34] <maduser> kdesudo Adept
[06:35] <trillis> :(
[06:35] <trillis> Broken?
[06:35] <maduser> kdesudo Adept Manager
[06:35] <Viper> Ok, I get it.. it's nearly 2am, I'm tired!  lol
[06:35] <maduser> nothing
[06:35] <trillis> I found the ndisgtk
[06:35] <stdin> maduser: "Adept" is not a program name and neither is "Adept Manager"
[06:35] <trillis> and wrapper
[06:35] <Viper> Trill: ndis doesn't bring anything up?
[06:35] <trillis> I found them.
[06:35] <Viper> Can you install them?...
[06:35] <trillis> But the status says "BROKEN".
[06:35] <trillis> In red.
[06:36] <Viper> what context menu is there (right-click)
[06:36] <stdin> maduser: it's "adept_manager"
[06:36] <trillis> I just requested an install.
[06:36] <trillis> But its not doing anyting..
[06:36] <stdin> trillis: you have to click the apply button to get it going
[06:36] <Agent_bob> i told you to issue the command     sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f         then they all said open the package manager...   if done in that order you wouldn't be looking at a broken package.
[06:37] <trillis> "There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages"....
[06:37] <Viper> install -f... I'm always hesistant to use force in installing apps...
[06:37] <t1n0m3n> yay firefox is installed... hehe
[06:37] <trillis> heheh
[06:37] <Agent_bob> Viper -f is not force.  it's finish.
[06:37] <trillis> Let me try bobs way...
[06:38] <Viper> Oh... for incomplete installs... OK
[06:38] <Viper> Like I said, I'm tired....  that's the excuse I'm using!
[06:38] <Agent_bob> i'm an idiot,  i don't need an excuse.
[06:38] <Agent_bob> :)
[06:39] <trillis> Unable to lock...
[06:39] <trillis> the admin directory
[06:39] <Viper> sudo
[06:39] <Agent_bob> cause you didn't close the adept
[06:39] <stdin> trillis: you need to close adept too
[06:39] <trillis> hahaha
[06:39] <trillis> oops
[06:39] <trillis> uhm...
[06:39] <trillis> a lot of words came up
[06:39] <trillis> and said DONE
[06:40] <trillis> DONE
[06:40] <trillis> DONE
[06:40] <trillis> DONE
[06:40] <trillis> etc...
[06:40] <Viper> @ not running sudo for graphic apps... Yeah, I remember what that does....   it's kind of annoying when that happens..
[06:40] <Viper> well trill, done is a good thing!
[06:40] <trillis> Do I want to continue?
[06:40] <Agent_bob> yes
[06:40] <Viper> I'm going to guess... yeah
[06:40] <trillis> reading database...
[06:40] <Viper> Since you've only been fighting with this for the past several hours....
[06:41] <trillis> I started this quest around 8 or so... heheh.
[06:41] <trillis> It's no 2am.
[06:41] <trillis> now*
[06:41] <maduser> google your error
[06:41] <maduser> it always works
[06:41] <trillis> I did.
[06:41] <trillis> IWell.
[06:41] <trillis> Actually.
[06:41] <trillis> I didn't have an error to google.
[06:41] <maduser> what happened?
[06:41] <trillis> I accidently found out there was a chat for kubuntu
[06:41] <Agent_bob> no error means no error.
[06:41] <trillis> I'm retarded.
[06:41] <trillis> << Winxp user.
[06:41] <stdin> trillis: try to keep responses on one line, makes it easier to read :)
[06:42] <trillis> Ah, sorry.
[06:42] <Viper> Especially when you have 50 people posting things at the same time...
[06:42] <maduser> i know the fix to your probelm
[06:42] <Agent_bob> now if the packaging cricisus is over i'll let you fellas finish what you started with him.
[06:43] <maduser> trills: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[06:43] <maduser> run this as root
[06:43] <Agent_bob> maduser heh. no.
[06:43] <maduser> it should work:)
[06:43] <trillis> Right now the last things the konsole said was "(Reading database ... 65809 files and directories currently installed.) Removing ndisgtk... Removing ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 ...
[06:43] <Agent_bob> ok you should be ready to install ndiswarper through adept as they said
[06:44] <trillis> k
[06:44] <Agent_bob> maduser he doesn't have a problem atm.
[06:45] <Agent_bob> maduser you are just a minute behind.  but keep trying. :)
[06:45] <trillis> The only thing showing up on Adept is ndisgtk
[06:45] <maduser> trills do you use a broadcom wireless card?
[06:45] <Viper> erm... Ok, I think you have better luck with the terminal...
[06:45] <Viper> D-Link DWA-130
[06:45] <Agent_bob> and it make Agent_bob look silly to answer pm's in the channel....
[06:45] <trillis> This is my entire dilema.
[06:46] <trillis> Getting to instal those drivers hehehe.
[06:46] <trillis> install*
[06:46] <trillis> So do I want to install the ndisgtk?
[06:46] <Viper> GAH, You jinxed me stdin!  I have that error caused by sudoing graphical apps....
[06:46] <Viper> Yeah
[06:47] <stdin> Viper: so chown your $HOME :)
[06:47] <Agent_bob> lol
[06:47] <Viper> yup...
[06:47] <Viper> problem is that I have well over 500gigs in that dir :(
[06:48] <Agent_bob> own your home     own your own home    !
[06:48] <trillis> I requested Install... But it's not doing anything...
[06:48] <stdin> chown shouldn't take long, takes longer on lots of small files than a few large ones
[06:48] <stdin> trillis: again, remember to click apply
[06:48] <Viper> Takes even longer when it tries to chown a 500gig NTFS drive :(
[06:48] <Agent_bob> stdin even faster if one find ./ first  lol
[06:48]  * flaccid sips tea
[06:49] <trillis> The apply button is fadded so I can't click it.
[06:49] <Viper> LOL, just go back to the command line....
[06:49] <trillis> Maduser: I'd reply to you PM but something about a spam block...?
[06:49] <stdin> !pm > maduser
[06:50] <Agent_bob> you too ?
[06:50] <Dr_willis> Only Registered nicks can PM.
[06:50] <maduser> trills: do you use a broadcom wireless card?
[06:50]  * trillis is back in the konsole...
[06:50] <Viper> No, he has a d-link
[06:50] <maduser> ok
[06:50] <maduser> never mind
[06:50] <stdin> trillis: the command is "sudo apt-get install ndisgtk"
[06:50] <Viper> sudo apt-get install whatever you need
[06:51] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install pkg1 pkg2 ...
[06:51] <trillis> sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[06:51] <trillis> whoops
[06:51] <Agent_bob> popy and caste
[06:51] <Viper> W00t!  hotbabe compiles!    GAH
[06:52] <trillis> Whats pkg1 and pkg2?
[06:52] <Agent_bob> that's what NickPresta said.   drug it down to a reboot.
[06:52] <trillis> Package?
[06:52] <Dr_willis> Hmm. Hotbabe was in one of the repos. :)
[06:52] <Viper> he's saying that you can install several packages at once.
[06:52] <Dr_willis> severas repo i think.
[06:52] <flaccid> trillis: example names of packages
[06:52] <trillis> Hm... "Package ndisgtk has no installation canditate".
[06:52] <Dr_willis> !find  ndis
[06:53] <ubotu> Found: linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-386, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-generic, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.22-14-server, ndiswrapper-common, ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 (and 5 others)
[06:53] <Dr_willis> !find  ndisgt
[06:53] <ubotu> Found: ndisgtk
[06:53] <stdin> universe...
[06:53] <Dr_willis> !info  ndisgt
[06:53] <ubotu> Package ndisgt does not exist in gutsy
[06:53] <Dr_willis> !info  ndisgtk
[06:53] <ubotu> ndisgtk: graphical frontend for ndiswrapper (installation of Windows WiFi drivers). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.2-1ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 18 kB, installed size 172 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[06:53] <Agent_bob> Dr_willis yeah you must have missed the Q.   NickPresta asked if it bogged anyone elses system down to a reboot    so all the "guys" in here jumped on the chance to test it.
[06:53] <Dr_willis> There we go. :P
[06:53] <stdin> Dr_willis: you trying to kill ubotu?
[06:53] <t1n0m3n> how do I set the DF flag with ping in kubuntu?  The man page does not say
[06:54] <Dr_willis> Agent_bob,  hotbabe? it never slowed down my systems much that ive noticed.,
[06:54] <Agent_bob> yes hot-babe
[06:54] <Viper> I think that app fights with beryl....
[06:54] <Dr_willis> me pets ubotu.
[06:54] <trillis> erm....
[06:54] <Dr_willis> Everything fights with beryl :)
[06:54]  * Viper pet ubotu
[06:54] <t1n0m3n> ugh, beryl
[06:54] <Agent_bob> !botsnack
[06:54] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[06:55] <t1n0m3n> lol
[06:55] <t1n0m3n> that is a good one
[06:55] <stdin> trillis: easiest way to enable the repositories you need is to (sigh) go back into adept. from there go to the "Adept" menu and click on "Manage Repositories" and then check all the boxes in the first tab
[06:55] <Viper> that line is so humerous.. if you know what it means
[06:55] <trillis> "This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only availbale from another source.
[06:55] <trillis> "
[06:55] <trillis> Aah
[06:56] <Viper> Well, I now have a new program to scp onto someone's machine during a LAN party ^_^
[06:56] <flaccid> check repos/versions
[06:56] <Agent_bob> Viper hot-babe ?
[06:56] <Viper> yup ^_^
[06:56] <Agent_bob> figured.
[06:56] <Viper> Last time it was xsnow, now it'll be this
[06:56] <trillis> What boxes?
[06:57] <Viper> Actually... xsnow is a good trick to do with your classmates in a linux course!
[06:57] <maduser> !xsnow
[06:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xsnow - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:57] <t1n0m3n> in windows ping -f www.google.com means that you are sending a ping with the do not fragment flag set, is there a way to set the DF flag with ping in ubuntu?
[06:57] <Agent_bob> Viper what does xsnow do ?     or is the name obvous enough ?
[06:57] <trillis> I don't see any boxes :(....
[06:57] <stdin> trillis: "box" is a shorthand for "computer system"
[06:57] <trillis> oh.
[06:57] <trillis> heheh
[06:57] <Viper> viperbot: xsnow = application for gnome to make snow appear over the desktop, covering windows and the taskbar... also santa flys across randomly
[06:58] <Agent_bob> stdin actually that time i think it was "check boxes"
[06:58] <trillis> So what am I looking for?
[06:58]  * leileiloll is away: off to play non-Free 2
[06:58] <stdin> Agent_bob: yeah, actually just saw that :p
[06:58] <stdin> trillis: what do you see?
[06:59] <trillis> comment # Line Commented out by installer becase it failed to verify
[06:59] <Viper> I think at this point.. it would just be easier if he initiated a remote assistance connection to one of us... more namingly, stdin.
[06:59] <trillis> There is a few of those, and the some deb http://www.link...blah..
[06:59] <trillis> :-o
[06:59] <stdin> trillis: if you right-click on the greyed out ones do you see an option to "enable" ?
[06:59] <maduser> xsnow = sweet
[07:00] <trillis> Yeah
[07:00] <stdin> trillis: do that for all the ones there that start with "deb http://"
[07:00] <trillis> k
[07:00] <jaime> hello guys
[07:00] <jaime> anybody running laptops?
[07:00] <trillis> Why though
[07:00] <maduser> xsnow looks a liitle laggy
[07:00] <trillis> ?
[07:00] <Viper> I would, but linux hates @ sound drivers && wifi drivers.
[07:00] <t1n0m3n> jaime: Dell laptop here
[07:01] <stdin> trillis: you should see it removing the "#" sigh, that activated the repository. a repository is a site that stores packages you can install with Adept or apt-get
[07:01] <Viper> maduser: I ran xsnow on non-beryl/compiz machines, and it ran fine... they probably just have issues with composite manager.s
[07:01] <stdin> s/sigh/sign/
[07:01] <jaime> t1n03n what vid?
[07:01] <t1n0m3n> jaime: NVidia Quadro FX2500
[07:02] <t1n0m3n> jaime: NVidia Quadro FX2500m that is
[07:02] <Viper> G.Dit.... unblock maduser > Viper plz
[07:02] <t1n0m3n> jaime: Its a Dell Precision M90
[07:03] <Viper> or whatever that command is, as I can't reply to anyone's PM.
[07:03] <jaime> :)
[07:03] <jaime> i'm getting a sony for christmas
[07:03] <trillis> My adept doesnt want to load...
[07:03] <jaime> very nice indeed
[07:03] <jaime> but
[07:03] <stdin> Viper: you have to register, or just join your own channel like ##Viper
[07:03] <jaime> just searching around for a good linux os for it
[07:03] <jaime> i'll bring the specs
[07:04] <t1n0m3n> jaime: kk
[07:04] <jaime> the thing is its a intel card :(
[07:04] <Viper> erm... ok
[07:04] <Viper> ##Viper
[07:04] <maduser> blocked?
[07:04] <t1n0m3n> jaime: like an 815 onboard video adapter?
[07:04] <stdin> !register
[07:04] <ubotu> By default, only registered users can send private messages - Information about  registering your Freenode nick can be found at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration
[07:04] <jaime> anybody with something like this? http://www.amazon.com/Sony-VGN-FS640-Notebook-Processor-Centrino/dp/B0008EZBSE
[07:04] <Viper> Yeah, I suck at IRC... new to this still...
[07:04] <jaime> dunno
[07:05] <maduser> oh viper is not registered
[07:05] <trillis> k... No do I try and get the ndisgtk?
[07:05] <maduser> I freaked out for a second
[07:05] <Viper> mad, I'm in that channel he just typed, if you click on ##Viper I think you'll go there... maybe
[07:05] <maduser> viper just register
[07:05] <stdin> trillis: did you click the "apply" button after enabling all of them?
[07:05] <trillis> Yes.
[07:05] <Agent_bob> seems i'm for ever having trubble with the clock on these stupid computers
[07:05] <t1n0m3n> jaime: what video card does that use?
[07:05] <flaccid> ntpdate is good
[07:06] <stdin> trillis: ok, is adept still open or did you close it?
[07:06] <jaime> look at the link
[07:06] <jaime> http://www.amazon.com/Sony-VGN-FS640-Notebook-Processor-Centrino/dp/B0008EZBSE
[07:06] <trillis> I closed it, but then reopened it.
[07:06] <t1n0m3n> jaime: I am, but I cant find that paticualr spec
[07:06] <jaime> Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900
[07:06] <stdin> trillis: click the "Fetch Updates" button on the top row
[07:07] <jaime> See more technical details
[07:07] <trillis> holy crap
[07:07] <jaime> click on that
[07:07] <maduser> yo stdin would a remote destop connection or desktop sharing help
[07:07] <t1n0m3n> jaime: ahh, k
[07:07] <jaime> cum on
[07:07] <jaime> :P
[07:07] <maduser> we could do everything directly
[07:07] <stdin> maduser: possibly, but that's way against policy
[07:07] <trillis> Done (100%) is appearing aloottt....
[07:07] <stdin> trillis: yeah, it's updating it's package list
[07:07] <trillis> k
[07:08] <trillis> It brought me back to the main thing...
[07:08] <Viper> in IRC:: How do you change your nick?
[07:08] <trillis> With a bunch of things saying "Not installed"
[07:08] <t1n0m3n> jaime: what is the issue?
[07:08] <jaime> i want to know what hardware would i have trouble
[07:08] <jaime> also does ubuntu support that grahpic card? with full acceleration
[07:09] <jaime> without doing mods
[07:09] <stdin> trillis: in the search box type in "ndisgtk", it'll then filter and you'll see the package in the list. just right click and request install
[07:09] <stdin> trillis: then click apply
[07:09] <intelikey> ooops
[07:09] <t1n0m3n> jaime: have you checked out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=54544
[07:09] <intelikey> what am i missing here?   http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d64dde806   if anyone knows...
[07:10] <trillis> Yay.
[07:10] <trillis> It's installing.
[07:10] <Viper> one min. mad, I'm figuring out how to change my nick...
[07:10] <maduser> installing does not mean it will work
[07:10] <stdin> Viper: /nick newnick
[07:11] <Viper> oh.. that all?
[07:11] <maduser> i have that millions of times
[07:11] <eVipere> oooooh, I see ^_^
[07:11] <trillis> k
[07:11] <trillis> it finished installing
[07:12] <trillis> Now how can I install the inf file?
[07:12] <stdin> trillis: you should now see a new entry in KMenu > System   called "Windows Wireless Drivers"
[07:12] <stdin> that's the tool you use
[07:13] <trillis> I saw that awhile ago...
[07:13] <stdin> it wasn't installed properly back then, but it is now
[07:13] <trillis> hm...
[07:13] <jaime> what other issue i need to look for
[07:14] <trillis> Why isn't it starting up?
[07:14] <jaime> is kubuntu easy to learn?
[07:14] <t1n0m3n> jaime: I think it is easier than most
[07:14] <eVipere> Yeah.... for the most part
[07:15] <intelikey> jaime no.  you will spend more than 8 hours trying to learn it all.
[07:15] <maduser> not as easy as ubuntu
[07:15] <trillis> I clicked the wireless devices but nothing happened... :(
[07:15] <eVipere> Isn't it under something else?...
[07:15] <stdin> trillis: has it opened?
[07:15] <trillis> No.
[07:15] <stdin> trillis: just press Alt-F2 and put in "kdesu ndisgtk" then
[07:15] <jaime> hm
[07:15] <t1n0m3n> jaime: any linux is a mindset change from windows.... that is the hardest part
[07:15] <jaime> yea i suck on learning too
[07:15] <maduser> runing form the teminal
[07:15] <jaime> windows just work out of the box
[07:16] <jaime> installing driver so easy
[07:16] <jaime> is kubuntu meant for me?
[07:16] <maduser> is it?
[07:16] <jaime> i want one that is easy to config
[07:16] <jaime> dunno
[07:16] <intelikey> try it and see,   you are the only one that can deside that.
[07:16] <jaime> man i'm running gentoo right now
[07:16] <trillis> yay
[07:16] <trillis> It opened.
[07:16] <jaime> sabayon linux
[07:16] <eVipere> Oh, I guess it is called "Windows Wireless Devices"...
[07:16] <jaime> works out of the box
[07:17] <jaime> ubuntu i cant get acceleration working on nvidia 6200
[07:17] <t1n0m3n> jaime: Not necessarily, there is a lot that even I take for granted about Windows, that is a complete reverse in linux
[07:17] <stdin> trillis: click "Install new driver" and locate the .inf file
[07:17] <jaime> dist like window, that works most hardware without needing to update drivers?
[07:18] <intelikey> so   troll here often ?
[07:18] <jaime> in windows i'm crazy i love keeping up to date, same to driver and games patches and 3rd party application
[07:18] <trillis> It's not thinking at all...
[07:18] <t1n0m3n> intelikey: I think jaime has a valid ?
[07:18] <trillis> I selected the inf.
[07:18] <videoeddie_> asl
[07:18] <trillis> But it was directly from a CD>
[07:19] <videoeddie_> aasl
[07:19] <stdin> !ot | videoeddie_
[07:19] <ubotu> videoeddie_: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[07:19] <t1n0m3n> jaime: however, I have spent a lot of time on windows and take for granted the methods used to make things work
[07:19] <trillis> I hit the install button and it doesn't do anything.
[07:19] <Lynoure> jaime: Linspire I think is the one that tries to be most Windows-like, but so far, I have had to update drivers way more often in Windows than Linux. But I did choose hardware with a thought.
[07:20] <stdin> trillis: does it show anything in the main window?
[07:20] <jaime> well windows is so easy to update
[07:20] <jaime> and work many things like linux
[07:20] <jaime> but linspire have their issue too
[07:20] <trillis> Currently Installed Windows Drivers: Is blank.
[07:20] <Lynoure> jaime: apt-get dist-upgrade  is easy to me. :)
[07:20] <jaime> hm
[07:20] <mikeo> anyone have problems with their whole computer locking up (laptop) with kubuntu?
[07:20] <jaime> is kubuntu debian?
[07:21] <eVipere> yeah
[07:21] <intelikey> debian based
[07:21] <Lynoure> jaime: it's based on Debian.
[07:21] <stdin> trillis: did you click ok the inf and click "open"
[07:21] <mikeo> seems to be when opening lots of windows with compiz-fusion
[07:21] <eVipere> it's Debian + KDE + a commercial company.
[07:21] <mikeo> firefox or konqueror
[07:21] <trillis> Yes, then install.
[07:21] <t1n0m3n> jaime: yes, it is easy to update windows, but it is just as easy to update ubuntu... once you learn where all the tools are... it would work the same way if you were good in linux and were trying to learn windows
[07:21] <stdin> trillis: did you make sure to click the right inf file
[07:22] <trillis> Aah..
[07:22] <trillis> how do I tell which is the right one?
[07:22] <eVipere> You guess....
[07:22] <trillis> hah
[07:22] <eVipere> It should say hardware present if it's the right onw.
[07:22] <trillis> Looks like the autorun was.
[07:22] <trillis> Yeah
[07:22] <trillis> Thats what it says
[07:22] <eVipere> Ok, then I had to run a command to get it to recognize the change.
[07:23] <trillis> Now what?
[07:23] <eVipere> stdin, you'll probably have to correct on this.. but I think it was sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper
[07:23] <t1n0m3n> jaime: I think the hardest part of linux is trying to unlearn what windows has taught you
[07:23] <stdin> trillis: does it show anything in the main window?
[07:23] <trillis> Yeah
[07:23] <eVipere> followed by sudo modprobe -i ndiswrapper
[07:23] <trillis> "Autorun: Hardware present"
[07:23] <stdin> eVipere: the gui should do it for him
[07:24] <jaime> yea
[07:24] <jaime> is there a channel of
[07:24] <jaime> that talk about different dist
[07:24] <eVipere> it doesn't....
[07:24] <eVipere> at least it didn't for me.
[07:24] <jaime> and speak everything about linux
[07:24] <intelikey> jaime ##linux maybe ?
[07:24] <jaime> ?
[07:24] <stdin> eVipere: it will load it, just won't autoload at boot
[07:24] <t1n0m3n> jaime: for example, windows teaches that your harddrive is c: but that makes no sense in linux
[07:25] <jaime> good job intelikey
[07:25] <trillis> Er.. Now what?
[07:25] <intelikey> t1n0m3n if he's running gentoo i think he's past that stage...
[07:25] <stdin> trillis: ok you can close that and just do "sudo ndiswrapper -m" in konsole
[07:25] <t1n0m3n> just speaking in generic terms
[07:25] <eVipere> Didn't you just tellme that the GUI should handle that?....
[07:26] <trillis> modprobe config already contains alias directive?
[07:26] <stdin> eVipere: I said "it will load it, just won't autoload at boot" < "ndiswrapper -m" makes it autoload at boot
[07:27] <eVipere> oh.... my problem was that the kernel didn't see the new INF driver... that's why I had to do -r followed by -i
[07:27] <stdin> trillis: ok, try rebooting then, without the network cable in. see if it picks up the wireless net
[07:27] <intelikey> and his return seems to indicate that it's already done...
[07:27] <trillis> k
[07:27] <trillis> brb
[07:29] <t1n0m3n> jaime: one thing I will note though.  linux seems to make you learn more about your system than windows does.  You become more "in tune" with your computer than in windows.  It seems to me that windows makes people a bit too far removed from the goings on of their hardware for my taste.
[07:31] <t1n0m3n> jaime: and with that comes a tad bit more complexity
[07:31] <intelikey> t1n0m3n yep.  what i call the "think for them cause they are too dumb to do it themselves" syndrom
[07:31] <intelikey> and i hate to see linux moving in that dirrection.
[07:31] <intelikey> and i'm off topic.
[07:32] <mikeo> lol
[07:32] <intelikey> "why doesn't it just do it for me"  </whine>     >:|
[07:32] <mikeo> is there a good online resource for practical bash scripting
[07:32] <intelikey> mikeo #bash
[07:32] <intelikey> see the topic
[07:33] <mikeo> do you guys know how to write scripts?
[07:33] <mikeo> and did it take you a long time to learn?
[07:33] <intelikey> yes and no
[07:33] <mikeo> cool
[07:33] <t1n0m3n> anyway, that is where I like ubuntu.  not quite easy enough for the casual windows user, but accessible.  and the complexity keeps coming the more you dig into it
[07:33] <stdin> if you can type commands in sequentially, you can make basic scripts script
[07:34] <eVipere> like ps -ax | grep lagging_program
[07:36] <intelikey> echo -e '#!/bin/sh \n\n# this is a test script. \n\necho "now running the test script"\nls -sh \n' > test_script.sh ;chmod 755 test_script.sh        <<< mikeo
[07:36] <mikeo> like cat /dev/urandom
[07:36] <mikeo> are the \n's line breaks?
[07:36] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: haven't seen you around lately
[07:36] <intelikey> yep
[07:37] <mikeo> whats the s flag for ls?
[07:37] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido haven't hung out here much lately
[07:37] <mikeo> i know h is human, but never used s before
[07:37] <intelikey> size
[07:37] <mikeo> and -e for echo?
[07:38] <intelikey> extended   means inturpret the \* chars
[07:38] <t1n0m3n> anyone know how to make the ping command set the "do not fragment" flag?
[07:38] <mikeo> interesting
[07:38] <Daisuke_Ido> intelikey: i noticed, but good to see ya again
[07:39] <Daisuke_Ido> but for now, gotta sleep
[07:39] <intelikey> mikeo that's the most basic of scripting.   stdin is considered a pro.  if you need help     and i'll be glad to answer what questions i can if i'm here.   but for advanced bash questions   #bash  is the best bet.
[07:40] <intelikey> Daisuke_Ido peace bro
[07:40] <Daisuke_Ido> the missus is dragging me out of bed in 5 hours to go get cookies
[07:40]  * intelikey looks up code word "get cookie"
[07:40] <intelikey> heh ok.  have fun.
[07:40] <intelikey> :)
[07:41] <trillis> arg...
[07:41] <eVipere> !cookies
[07:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cookies - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[07:41] <eVipere> sorry intelikey... no help here...
[07:41] <Daisuke_Ido> no, real cookies.  two of the churches have their annual bake sale on the first saturday in december...  unfortunately that's today
[07:42] <trillis> It didn't work :(
[07:42] <Daisuke_Ido> and now, gnight
[07:42] <t1n0m3n> hmm, weird "ping -M dont -s 1300 www.google.com"
[07:42] <intelikey> oh   ok.   well i always liked it when the missus would mention cookies and bed in the same sentance  :)
[07:43] <eVipere> trillis: windows wireless devices shows that it's present, right?
[07:43] <trillis> If I could open that >.<
[07:43] <trillis> It doesn't like to pop up.
[07:43] <t1n0m3n> the flag "-M dont" is equal to the windows "-f" flag?
[07:43] <stdin> t1n0m3n: "man ping" and see
[07:44] <trillis> whats the run command?
[07:44] <eVipere> what does kdesu ndisgtk   reveal?
[07:44] <trillis> sudo ndistkg?
[07:44] <trillis> damn
[07:44] <trillis> Autorun: Hardware Present: No.
[07:45] <t1n0m3n> stdin: man is rather cryptic in this regard
[07:45] <trillis> Should I plug in the usb adapter?
[07:45] <eVipere> yeah....
[07:45] <trillis> heheh
[07:46] <trillis> k
[07:46] <trillis> The adapter should be blinking, but its not
[07:46] <eVipere> That's ok, for right now... does it show hardware presnt?
[07:47] <trillis> nope
[07:47] <eVipere> can you open the ndisgtk app even?
[07:47] <trillis> yeah
[07:47] <trillis> The Wireless networkd driver gui?
[07:47] <eVipere> Ok... go back to terminal and....        dmesg | grep ndis
[07:47] <t1n0m3n> ok, my MTU is 1072 using -M dont  what the h3ll!?
[07:48] <trillis> whoah.
[07:48] <t1n0m3n> do I subtract the normal 28 bytes to get true MTU then?
[07:48] <trillis> Now what?
[07:49] <eVipere> Open a new PM to me or stdin and paste what you get so you don't flood the channel..
[07:49] <stdin> !paste
[07:49] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[07:49] <trillis> Can't.
[07:49] <trillis> Says something about spam.
[07:49] <eVipere> ah... that issue... lol
[07:49] <eVipere> Ok, or use pastbin as per stdin...
[07:50] <intelikey> http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/pastebin.php
[07:50] <intelikey> try that one.
[07:50] <trillis> cyntax?
[07:50] <asm> hi
[07:50] <eVipere> trillis: The spam thing is because you didn't do /msg nickserv register command....
[07:50] <stdin> trillis: just post the text in and click send
[07:51] <trillis> In here?
[07:51] <asm> i ve a question about how to make kubuntu  in 3 d desktop
[07:51] <asm> any help
[07:51] <t1n0m3n> lol, sorry self inflicted wounds here, I set my mtu to 1100  (1100 - 28 = 1072)
[07:51] <stdin> trillis: no, on the pastebin site
[07:51] <eVipere> paste the URL of the pastebin, not the content.
[07:51] <trillis> k
[07:51] <trillis> posted
[07:51] <stdin> now post the address back
[07:52] <trillis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46408/
[07:53] <eVipere> stdin:: all up to you on that post... something looks astray with ndis...
[07:53] <stdin> trillis: try posting the output of "grep 'loadndisdriver' /var/log/syslog" to pastebin
[07:53] <trillis> k
[07:55] <eVipere> well, I'm guessing it'll be # 46409 once he gets it posted....
[07:56] <trillis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/46409/
[07:56] <trillis> heheh
[07:56] <trillis> Jesus...
[07:56] <trillis> I've been at this for 6 hours...
[07:56] <trillis> er...
[07:56] <trillis> 7
[07:57] <eVipere> as per the config file, I'm guessing that you may need to reinstall windows drivers.....
[07:57] <trillis> It's on a cd though.
[07:57] <eVipere> You had a .INF and the .SYS files there?
[07:57] <trillis> Yeah
[07:57] <stdin> what's on a cd?
[07:57] <eVipere> preferebly for an XP machine of the same arch.
[07:57] <trillis> yeah
[07:57] <eVipere> Then try a 2000 driver.
[07:58] <trillis> I tried, but the only one that apears in the window of the wireless drivers is the autorun inf file.
[07:58] <eVipere> one sec, let me fish around dlink's website for a second...
[07:58] <trillis> k
[08:00] <eVipere> and just a quickie.. uname -a reveals what on your system?
[08:01] <trillis> Linux 2056 2.6.15-26-386 #1 PREEMPT Thu Aug 3 02:52:00 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[08:01] <eVipere> Ok perfect, standard XP drivers should work fine
[08:03] <trillis> damn
[08:03] <trillis> I can't find my cdrom directory...
[08:03] <eVipere> Your little device is an 802.11N card?....
[08:04] <trillis> Sounds write.
[08:04] <trillis> right*
[08:04] <t1n0m3n> ok, I have ruled out MTU as being my culprit on my slow internet downloads.  Using the "ping -M dont" I have verified that my laptop is in fact being limited by my DSL to 1492 and I have set me MTU to 1491 and I get the max 7.2MBps download rate.  Weird thing is, that if I set my MTU to 1100 or so, my max download rate drops considerably.  Which makes no sense to me.
[08:05] <t1n0m3n> yet another potential issue eliminated
[08:07] <trillis> The inf file that seems to work is the Autorun.
[08:07] <trillis> hm... I wonder..
[08:08] <eVipere> no... whatever your thinking.... no
[08:08] <trillis> Oh :(
[08:08] <trillis> LOL
[08:09] <trillis> It worked.
[08:09] <eVipere> what did?
[08:09] <trillis> Kinda I suppose.
[08:09] <trillis> There were three inf files there.
[08:09] <trillis> one for win 2000, xp, and the autorun.
[08:09] <eVipere> and you loaded up the XP one?....
[08:10] <trillis> I just copy the inf winxp from the cd to the desktop and it showed up on the wireless driver
[08:10] <trillis> yeah
[08:10] <trillis> but it still says no hardware
[08:10] <trillis> But it could be that I'm using my ethernet right now.
[08:10] <eVipere> No, it's not... I'm looking at extracting the required inf from the drivers now......
[08:11] <trillis> Theres sime lights on in the back of my computer I didn't see before...
[08:11] <trillis> heheh
[08:11] <import> hey guys love your system need a hand though i have to get a patch and the url says to do something like this get http://patches.aircrack-ng.org/madwifi-ng-r1679.patch
[08:11] <trillis> Just my imagination.
[08:11] <import> but the problem is get isnt a reconised
[08:12] <import> function
[08:12] <eVipere> trillis, do you still have winxp installed that used to use that device?
[08:12]  * trillis is retarded when it comes to linux
[08:12] <trillis> No.
[08:12] <intelikey> import wget  ?
[08:12] <trillis> Winxp never touched that device
[08:13] <import> i tried to apt-get install get but it dint work
[08:13] <import> oh maybe
[08:13] <import> let me try thanks intelikey let you know if it works
[08:13] <import> your the man
[08:13] <import> :)
[08:14] <import> or women what ever it may be
[08:14] <eVipere> GAH!  I can get a file count of this blasted .cab, but I can't extract the data :(
[08:15] <eVipere> trillis, want to try extracting some cab files on *nix, I think since you have a 32-bit OS it may work for ya....
[08:15] <trillis> Sure, how?
[08:16] <eVipere> first, you need a couple applications...    sudo apt-get install cabextract unshield
[08:16] <intelikey> import if that's the only problem you ever have with linux,  you are the man.      or woman...   or irc robot or what ever...
[08:17] <intelikey> !botsnack | import
[08:17] <ubotu> import: Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[08:18] <surgy> how do i get and install new splash screens? other than the ones that came with kubuntu?
[08:18] <trillis> k
[08:18] <trillis> got it
[08:19] <import> :)