[00:01] <icimabue> If I download Java's JDK, manually, where is a good place to put it?
[00:01] <Dr_willis> !java
[00:03] <cihhan> escott: i just checked and yeah they are sata
[00:05] <nibblyn> ...can't connect with XChat 2.8.8 -> Connecting to irc.freenode.net (<IP_ADDRESS>) port 8001. Connection failed. Error: Connection timed out. Help please.
[00:06] <cc11rocks> escott - The manual tells me I have to open the file with Adobe's proprietary garbage program, download the .epub file, then import that into calibre. Thanks for the help. :(
[00:06] <Dr_willis> hmm.. port 8001 is a valid port?
[00:06] <three18ti> nibblyn, isn't 8001 SSL port?
[00:06] <cc11rocks> 443 is SSL...
[00:06] <three18ti> cc11rocks, ... O.o are you even paying attention?
[00:06] <cc11rocks> Oh, sorry...We're talking about a program
[00:06] <cc11rocks> My bad
[00:06] <three18ti> ;)
[00:06] <three18ti> lol.
[00:07] <cc11rocks> I'm out guys...Thanks
[00:07] <ejo> Hi -- You know in Ubuntu Software Center where it says "you need to install this before you can review it"?  It always says that for me, for apps I installed long ago or just recently or even reinstalled.  It *always* says it.  Can I fix that?
[00:07] <three18ti> I really wasn't trying to be a dick... lol.
[00:07] <nibblyn> three18ti:  checking, thanks
[00:08] <Dr_willis> ejo,  just my 2 cents.. but i find most reviws in the software center useless. ;)'
[00:08] <ejo> Me too.  I just had an idle curiosity about it working properly.
[00:08] <three18ti> nibblyn, how -are- you connected now?  WebIRC?
[00:08] <Dr_willis> the whole star rateing, reviews. has been basically abused to uselessness on some other marketplaces.. :P
[00:08]  * ejo agrees.
[00:08] <lauratika> hi im trying to use cryptkeeper to set a couple of spaces for privacy for chat applications,is this enough or i should use truecrypt better?
[00:09] <ejo> cryptkeeper sounds creepy...
[00:09] <nibblyn> three18ti: yep. anyway, 8001 comes right from the repos... fixing it, thanks
[00:11] <lauratika> why?
[00:11] <lauratika> dead people also needs privacy
[00:11] <ejo> sure; the dead would not be creeped out and that is well and good.
[00:12] <the_smart_chef1> hey
[00:13] <lauratika> yep, but then truecrypt will be for patriots only...true is the core of a nation
[00:13] <the_smart_chef1> im getting ubuntu and kubuntu
[00:13] <the_smart_chef1> and my computer is triple boot, windows xp, windows 7 and mac
[00:13] <gdane> hi
[00:13] <the_smart_chef1> so how do you install those into a triple boot computer (if you install them, quintuple boot computer)
[00:14] <gdane> can u send me url of manuals about unity and gadgets&
[00:14] <gdane> ?
[00:14] <gdane> thanks
[00:14] <nibblyn> ...Connecting to irc.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) port 6667. Connection failed. Error: Connection timed out -> what's wrong with XChat 2.8.8? (btw irc.debian.org works fine)
[00:14] <lauratika> so anyone
[00:15] <gdane> i wanna try to make gadged as small character, what usefull manuals i have to read about?
[00:16] <josvuk> Hello, what is bioethanol, is it 100% ethanol (is it denaturated alcohol) Can I use it for milling Al for my ubuntu embeded computer?
[00:16] <the_smart_chef1> g2g
[00:17] <PrototypeX29A> hi
[00:18] <PrototypeX29A> I've got troubles printing anything. just days ago it was working fine, but now I have three jobs in my queue, none which is being printed
[00:19] <PrototypeX29A> (stdin) Pending,  Untitled.pdf Held, Untitled.pdf Pending
[00:19] <PrototypeX29A> maybe my first try (using xpdf) clogged the whole thing?
[00:20] <apremalal> hi all
[00:21] <apremalal> how can i add environment  variables in ubuntu?
[00:22] <apremalal> I have tried by editing Profile but it didn't work.
[00:22] <nibblyn> PrototypeX29A: unclog it :) remove everything from the print list, check your printer.
[00:22] <ameen> sup yall
[00:23] <PrototypeX29A> nibblyn: hmm no, i removed all jobs, tried turning off/on, retried but it just doesn't react
[00:23] <PrototypeX29A> though it makes printer-typical sounds when turning it on, i guess it is a healthy printer
[00:24] <PrototypeX29A> is there a log-file or something i can check?
[00:25] <apremalal> afu,
[00:25] <PrototypeX29A> HP-LaserJet-Professional-P1102w is not ready <- looks like the printer is detected but, well, not ready
[00:27] <PrototypeX29A> ok thanks, it worked after i randomly pushed some buttons and kept deleting things from the queue
[00:28] <wolter> when I run sudo -s I get an error related to virtualenvwrapper.hook_loader file, how can I remove thid?
[00:28] <wolter> this*
[00:30] <nibblyn> PrototypeX29A: huh, maybe something in cups, maybe something under /var/log. btw, I'm not expert, someone wiser may pick you up with that, but imho you should try to print something autogenerated by the printer intself, a test page
[00:31] <Jordan_U> wolter: Please pastebin the complete error message.
[00:33] <apremalal> Jordan_U,
[00:33] <apremalal> how can i set environment variables?
[00:34] <nibblyn> ...Connecting to irc.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) port 6667. Connection failed. Error: Connection timed out -> what's wrong with XChat 2.8.8? (btw irc.debian.org works fine)
[00:34] <PrototypeX29A> apremalal: try 'export', i don't know the exact syntax but there is a manpage for that
[00:34] <apremalal> PrototypeX29A:Thank you.
[00:35] <agoodm> im getting machine check exceptions logged on my lenovo x220 when I push the cpu with demanding tasks, such as gaming or compiling
[00:35] <dax> nibblyn: does connecting to chat.freenode.net work?
[00:36] <wolter> Jordan_U, http://dpaste.com/768812/ I installed virtualenvwrapper but I don't know why it hooks itself to such a primal action as sudo -s
[00:36] <agoodm> used mcelog to decode the mce's and they suggest that im hitting the max temp and therefore its throttling... I think this is expected behaviour?  The cpu is turbo boosting...
[00:37] <nibblyn> dax: nope
[00:39] <dax> nibblyn: Odd. <IP_ADDRESS> isn't a freenode server address, so it sounds like there's a DNS problem somewhere. Try plugging in a specific freenode server (e.g. pratchett.freenode.net) for right now, and retry chat.freenode.net or irc.ubuntu.com in a few days.
[00:39] <dax> (using a specific server will cause issues if the server goes down, so you probably want to switch back to the original address at some point, and hopefully this is just a temporary issue)
[00:39] <wolter> when I run sudo -s I get an error related to virtualenvwrapper.hook_loader file, how can I remove this? This is the error message http://dpaste.com/768812/
[00:41] <nibblyn> dax: yep, you are right. UFF damn dns servers. again. thanks, will investigate that.
[00:42] <dax> nibblyn: if it ends up being non-temporary, and you figure out it's not a local issue (i.e., your ISP is being silly, or we screwed something up on our end), feel free to drop by #freenode and give us a heads up, btw
[00:46] <nibblyn> dax: my ISP dns servers are not realiable, even if the company is the biggest national broadband provider. Have to check if I'm actually on freedns or not. thanks for your catch!
[00:47] <IlikeMoose> anyone know why this error pops up and i can'
[00:47] <IlikeMoose> 't eject my disc without rebooting?? Error ejecting: eject exited with exit code 1: eject: unable to eject, last error: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[00:47] <moes> I have 10.04 lts installed along with two other distros all using grub2 from 10.04...I want to install 12.04 and use the grub 2 from 10.04...Where would I install grub 2 from 12.04 on boot or on root ???
[00:50] <Jordan_U> wolter: What if you just run "sudo true"? If you don't get an error then then it's probably hooking into .profile or similar rather than sudo itself.
[00:54] <escott> moes, presumably you wouldn't install grub for 12.04, but would let 10.04's os-prober find the 12.04 kernels
[00:55] <cihhan> Im having some problems with the installation of Ubuntu 12.04 Server. When it comes to the "partition disks", I only see (1) Configure iSCSI, (2) a completely blank line, (3) Undo, (4) Finish -- (2) should normally have guided partitioning... Any ideas?
[01:00] <nibblyn_> dax, pratchett.freenode.net works fine, Connecting to irc.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) port 6667 does not. Will report back in a few days.
[01:02] <wolter> Jordan_U, sudo true returns nothing
[01:03] <wolter> what does that tell you?
[01:04] <Jordan_U> wolter: It tells me that the issue is not with sudo, but with starting a root shell.
[01:05] <wolter> Jordan_U, do you have a clue as to where could this hook live?
[01:07] <escott> wolter, /root
[01:12] <StretchedALot> snardbafulator
[01:12] <StretchedALot> how do you like those dickupackets?
[01:16] <StretchedALot> snardbafulator
[01:16] <StretchedALot> are you there?
[01:16] <dax> StretchedALot: Do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[01:17] <StretchedALot> yes
[01:17] <StretchedALot> snardbafulator  what version of ubuntu do you use?
[01:17] <StretchedALot> I want to ask you about if you have had a certain aconteciemiento
[01:17] <StretchedALot> :D
[01:20] <starredsteria> Hiya.... Does anyone here run a Trendnet Wireless card on 12.04?
[01:21] <lynx> hi
[01:21] <lynx> hello
[01:22] <dax> StretchedALot: Then I recommend asking it.
[01:22] <wolter> escott, /root/.bashrc and /root/.profile don't show traces of virtualenv
[01:22] <Debolaz> Hmm, when using the dash key, is it normal for the dash to wait about a second after I've released the key before it appears?
[01:22] <linuxjones> is there a way to create a recovery partition where i can recover/reinstall ubuntu if a main partition fails?
[01:22] <trojan> what?
[01:23] <StretchedALot> snardbafulator   have you had problems with exploits?
[01:23] <StretchedALot> what is your current version of ubuntu?
[01:23] <escott> wolter, i wasnt following the original problem
[01:23] <h00k> StretchedALot: If you don't have a support related question, please keep the chatter elsewhere, like #ubuntu-offtopic.
[01:23] <StretchedALot> h00k it is support related
[01:23] <wolter> when I run sudo -s I get an error related to virtualenvwrapper.hook_loader file, how can I remove this? This is the error message http://dpaste.com/768812/
[01:23] <StretchedALot> now go suck on a cumsock
[01:23] <wolter> escott, ^
[01:24] <wolter> If you have time
[01:24] <starredsteria> I'm having issues with constantly being disconnected from my wifi card (Trendnet using ndiswrapper) running 12.04
[01:24] <wolter> hahah
[01:24] <starredsteria> I have 3 comps... and all but the one with ndiswrapper works fine...
[01:25] <starredsteria> so I know it isn't the router... anyone else experiencing issue with ndiswrapper or Trendnet?
[01:25] <wolter> starredsteria, do you use ipv6?
[01:25] <escott> wolter, so that suggests that the problem is not what is in .bashrc but what is NOT in .bashrc in particular that environment variable
[01:25] <D-Chymera1> hi guys - how do I split a cue files in individual tracks?
[01:25] <Debolaz> linuxjones: I've never tried doing it, but I suspect the easiest approach is going to be to create a partition thats large enough to hold the ubuntu iso, or whatever CD image you want to use for recovery, then tell grub to boot from it.
[01:25] <starredsteria> ... don't think so
[01:25] <wolter> escott, I have tried uninstalling python-virtualenv (because I don't really need it) but the problem persists
[01:26] <starredsteria> nope.. its on ipv4
[01:26] <Debolaz> linuxjones: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[01:26] <wolter> starredsteria, can you check on your network settings if the connection requires ipv6 to finish? This happened to me once; it might not be your solution though
[01:26] <Firefly776> hiya, having a bit of an issue with GRUB not recognising my "Tesco K211" keyboard unless I interact when it first boots (in the BIOS) if I don't do anything in the BIOS GRUB doesn't recognise it at all, if I do it's fine
[01:26] <Firefly776> it works in the Windows multi-boot... why not GRUB?
[01:27] <starredsteria> how do I know if it requires it? I'm connected now
[01:27] <starredsteria> the issue is that many times when I reboot I have to reinstall the trendnet driver
[01:27] <Firefly776> (it also works when I actually get to the OS... even if it doesn't in GRUB)
[01:27] <starredsteria> wolter: sometimes I have to do that a few times to get it connected....
[01:28] <escott> Firefly776, bios issues
[01:28] <Firefly776> escott: it works with other USB keyboards
[01:28] <Firefly776> escott: and when Windows is in the MBR
[01:28] <Firefly776> this seems to be a GRUB issue to me
[01:29] <escott> Firefly776, the bios is in charge of usb devices until the kernel takes over
[01:31] <starredsteria> wolter: both ipv4 and ipv6 were set to automatic. I disabled ipv4 but it isn't looking hopeful so far
[01:31] <wolter> starredsteria, in the network settings, in the ipv6 tab
[01:31] <wolter> starredsteria, no, disable ipv6 instead
[01:31] <starredsteria> ahh ok
[01:32] <starredsteria> wolter: can't disable but setting to ignore... lets see if this works
[01:33] <Ctm54> talked to a few people on here yesterday to see if they could help me connect to the internet via ethernet on 12.04...consensus was it had something to do with my router. Anyone have any ideas for settings i should look for on the router?
[01:34] <starredsteria> Ctm54: Do you know the address to connect to your router's settings?
[01:34] <Ctm54> starredsteria: yup i can pull up the gui easily on my laptop
[01:34] <starredsteria> what kind of router do u have?
[01:35] <Ctm54> asus rt-n12
[01:35] <starredsteria> wolter: yep no luck with setting ipv6 to 'ignore'
[01:35] <wolter> starredsteria, ah
[01:37] <starredsteria> wolter: yep... completely disconnected again... time to reinstall the driver :(
[01:37] <wolter> starredsteria, but that solution has appeared not to work very well has it?
[01:38] <starredsteria> its the only way to get connected lol
[01:38] <starredsteria> it just keeps kicking me off...
[01:38] <sankey_> is this currently the easiest way to install nouveau in 12.04? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1046504
[01:38] <starredsteria> then I have to either reinstall or restart to get it to work again
[01:39] <starredsteria> never had this issue on 11.11
[01:40] <histo> ?
[01:42] <Ctm54> starredsteria asus rt-n12
[01:42] <D-Chymera1> hi guys - how do I split a cue files in individual tracks?
[01:43] <histo> starredsteria: what chipset does your card have?
[01:43] <starredsteria> .... like my processor?
[01:44] <histo> starredsteria: lspci | grep Network
[01:44] <histo> ~info cuetools
[01:44] <histo> !info cuetools > D-Chymera1
[01:46] <starredsteria> histo: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd RTL8190 802.11n Wireless LAN
[01:47] <BlueJau> Hey guys where would I go to get general support for hardware?
[01:47] <histo> starredsteria: why are you using ndiswrapper then?
[01:47] <escott> !alis | BlueJau
[01:47] <starredsteria> histo: because it is a trendnet wireless card
[01:47] <starredsteria> histo: won't work otherwise
[01:47] <bazhang> ##hardware BlueJau
[01:49] <histo> starredsteria: should work
[01:49] <histo> starredsteria: unless its a rtl8192d usb or rtl 8190p pci
[01:49] <Booga-Booga> Hi everyone! I got some quick questions about setting up my personal media server. :)
[01:50] <deco> anyone know what's this in octal ? drwxrwxr-x
[01:50] <starredsteria> histo: It has always required ndiswrapper - Never recognized the card out of the box :(
[01:50] <histo> starredsteria: what version of ubuntu areyou using?
[01:51] <starredsteria> Ctm54: Have you tried setting your ipv4 settings to manual?
[01:52] <Ctm54> starredsteria yes, it tells me it's connected but then i don't have internet access and can't even ping the router
[01:52] <starredsteria> Ctm54: And you are using an IP address that no other device is currently using?
[01:52] <escott> deco 775
[01:52] <kitties> deco, 755
[01:52] <kitties> damn
[01:52] <deco> escott: kitties  thanks!
[01:53] <Ctm54> starredsteria yes, if the network map on my router is to be believed
[01:53] <histo> Ctm54: what are the results of ifconfig in a terminal and is this wireless or wired?
[01:54] <Ctm54> histo wired, gimme a sec and i'll link a pastebin
[01:55] <Ctm54> histo http://pastebin.com/UnvF2jej that's from before trying to set a static IP
[01:55] <starredsteria> histo: I'm on 12.04... didn't have an issue on 11.11
[01:56] <tobiasr33per> who want to bash heads about an Nvidia Powermizer issue?
[01:57] <histo> starredsteria: did you blacklist the rtl8190 driver?
[01:57] <histo> Ctm54: are you using network manager?
[01:58] <starredsteria> histo: blacklist?
[01:59] <ctm54_> histo yes
[01:59] <histo> starredsteria: lsmod | grep rtl   see if the kernel is tryinjg to load drivers for your card
[01:59] <SilverLightEnJin> goodmorning.
[01:59] <starredsteria> histo: that didn't do anything...
[02:00] <histo> ctm54_: open a terminal and try sudo dhclient -r && sudo dhclient
[02:00] <hpuser89479> Installed ubuntu + lxde desktop with mini.iso.  Lubuntu software centre gives internal error after installing apps.
[02:00] <histo> starredsteria: lsmod | grep 819
[02:01] <starredsteria> nvidia only loaded
[02:01] <hpuser89479> <ubuntu 12.04 mini.iso + lxde desktop.
[02:01] <histo> starredsteria: nvm my blacklist comments then.  If you are using the same windows driver with ndiswrapper that your were using with 11.10 therre should be no issue.
[02:02] <ctm54_> histo both of those don't print anything and just return a new entry line
[02:02] <starredsteria> histo: lol keyword 'should'
[02:02] <hpuser89479> gpointing-device-settings app's desktop icon doesn't work in lxde also.  The .desktop file category line needs fixing.
[02:02] <starredsteria> histo: what would r8169 be?
[02:03] <histo> starredsteria: but according to wireless.kernel.org that rtl8190 is supported by the kernel. It looks like ubuntu had some bugs with lucid etc... but it should be working. I'd check launchpad and the forums for people with that card and precise
[02:04] <lubuntuHDD> hello -- I suspect errors on my computer's HDD (which cannot boot). Can I just run "fsck /dev/sda" from my live cd? or is there a better thing?
[02:04] <starredsteria> histo: I've already checked... I can try uninstalling and see if it will be supported by default. But I doubt it because upgrading to 12.04 removed a ndiswrapper package that I had to install manually
[02:04] <histo> ctm54_: Can you describe the problem you're having and what you've tried to fix it for me?
[02:04] <edlang> Hi - does anyone know where I can find some details of system administrator training and certification for Ubuntu?
[02:05] <edlang> Preferably in Australia
[02:05] <hpuser89479> i mean the gpointing-device-settings MENU ICON doesn't show up in lxde desktop's menu.
[02:05] <ctm54_> histo my machine won't connect to the internet via ethernet...when i tell it to connect auto with dhcp it spins and then disconnects, when i do it manual it says it's connected but i can't access the internet or even ping the router...built this machine myself and it's my first build so i'm not ruling out a hardware issue
[02:06] <ctm54_> histo p.s. ethernet is the only network interface my machine has, i'm using the port that's right on my motherboard
[02:06] <JokesOnYou77> lubuntuHDD: you could always try and boot from a tool like Spinrite but if you're familiar with the command line tools I'd say that you're better off using the live CD
[02:06] <histo> ctm54_: does it have a solid link light by where they cable plugs in on themachine and the router?
[02:07] <Lirth> I'm getting a problem with my "gnome-keyring". I have no idea what this means. It happens when I try to run steam after I tried to reinstall.
[02:07] <histo> lubuntuHDD: yeah fsck it
[02:07] <lubuntuHDD> JokesOnYou77: I can use the commandline tools -- I've just never tried to run fsck on a whole disk before
[02:08] <ctm54_> histo link led on my box is blinking red, router doesn't have those on the port but the light on the front is blinking blue
[02:08] <starredsteria> histo: wireless .kernal.org is actually telling me it is unsupported
[02:09] <starredsteria> histo: rtl819x is.. but under that says RTL8190P PCI is listed under unsupported
[02:09] <ctm54_> histo but same cable/router port works on other machines and different cable going to linux box same problem
[02:09] <JokesOnYou77> lubuntuHDD: Me neither.  I usually pop in a liveCD with a GUI and run palimpsest to run a few diagnostics to confirm any theories I have before doing anything else.  I suspect that running fsck on the whole disk would definitely be an overnight task though
[02:10] <escott> lubuntuHDD, you cannot fsck sda there is no fileystem to check
[02:10] <escott> lubuntuHDD, if you think the drive is bad install smartmontools
[02:10] <lubuntuHDD> thanks! I'll try those things
[02:11] <histo> ctm54_: lspci | grep Ethernet
[02:11] <genii-around> lubuntuHDD: Some bios will also halt before booting if you have SMART monitoring enabled
[02:11] <Jon--> Upgraded from Ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04, sound now comes out of both headphones and speakers at the same time. Help?
[02:11] <histo> starredsteria: that's what I said earlier unless it's an 8190p or 8190usb it should work
[02:11] <ctm54_> histo NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2)
[02:12] <genii-around> ( and warn your hd is developing bad sectors, etc , back up, etc )
[02:12] <histo> starredsteria: So now we know you definately need ndiswrapper. I would make sure you are using the exact same windows driver as you did with 11.10 since you know that was working.
[02:13] <escott> Jon--, intel HDA?
[02:16] <histo> ctm54_: well if you're shure the cable and router are okay then the card must be faulty
[02:16] <starredsteria> histo: Yep.. using from the CD... XP 86 version. (none of the others work anyway)
[02:17] <ctm54_> histo so if i buy another wireless card it will work? it can't be an issue of my router not talking to machine correctly somehow?
[02:18] <starredsteria> histo: do you think setting a manual address work? I know I couldn't connect at all when disabling ipv6....
[02:18] <histo> ctm54_: or possibly your router isn't setup for dhcp and when you specified and ip it was outside the subnet
[02:18] <starredsteria> I'm about ready to scrap the wifi card and get a new one :(
[02:18] <histo> ctm54_: there are plenty of issues it "could" be. I would try another machine connected the router. Or slap another nic in your machine and try that.
[02:18] <histo> starredsteria: well I may have found something
[02:19] <infinitux> I disabled the flash plugin in chrome because it keeps loading with the system wide flash plugin and crashing as a result. How can I point chrome at the system wide flash plugin as to fix my shockwave flash player crash issue?
[02:20] <tinkster> ubuntu 12.04, dhcp networking ... I can't seem to get name resolution going.  Other clients (e.g. SLES, debian squeeze) on dhcp get a resolv.conf from the dhcp server and are happy.  On the ubunut host it stays a symlink to an empty file
[02:20] <histo> starredsteria: i've found a few forum posts of people who have found a realtek driver
[02:20] <tinkster> how do I make this work?
[02:20] <Lirth> I'm trying to run a program and I for some reason nothing happens. What does it mean when I get this as an output? http://pastebin.com/daeVTsrx
[02:21] <Jon--> escott, Do you want lspci outout?
[02:21] <Jon--> output*
[02:21] <escott> Lirth, you need to install gnome-keyring:i386
[02:21] <escott> Jon--, sure
[02:21] <Jon--> escott, Also, yes.
[02:22] <escott> Jon--, i just want to know the chipset
[02:22] <Lirth> escott: I'm fairly new to ubuntu. How would I go about doing that?
[02:22] <Jon--> escott, http://pastie.org/4229260
[02:22] <escott> !apt-get | Lirth
[02:22] <Jon--> Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[02:22] <histo> starredsteria: nvm looks like they are confused
[02:23] <Lirth> escott: So just type sudo apt-get install gnome-keyring:i386 into the terminal?
[02:23] <escott> Jon--, http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA. if you want to you can use the hda_analyzer tool to fiddle with registers
[02:23] <escott> Lirth, yep
[02:23] <whit3b0y> Whats the best package to use as a proxy server between two versions of Apache
[02:23] <Lirth> escott: thanks
[02:23] <Jon--> escott, Why did this break on dist upgrade?
[02:23] <histo> infinitux: mv the flashplugin in your ~
[02:23] <whit3b0y> need to hide the fact that one is running on 81 and the other 80
[02:23] <escott> Jon--, new kernel, assumes a different layout for the pins
[02:24] <Lirth> escott: new problem http://pastebin.com/EUw4aHeV
[02:24] <andygraybeal_> seems vino server keeps taking a lot of cpu -- i wonder if there is a fix or something to replace vino with - i'm in 10.04
[02:24] <Lirth> escott: That was from trying to get gnome-keyring
[02:24] <andygraybeal_> it looks like tightvnc is a good alternative
[02:24] <escott> Lirth, E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. <<<< that about says it all
[02:25] <infinitux> histo: move it into ~? or into somewhere within ~/* ?
[02:25] <whit3b0y> noone?
[02:25] <Lirth> escott: so how would I fix it?
[02:25] <escott> !best | whit3b0y
[02:25] <escott> Lirth, remove your holds
[02:25] <Lirth> escott: Could you explain that?
[02:25] <whit3b0y> escott - I've never used one
[02:25] <infinitux> histo: you still there?
[02:25] <Jon--> escott, No change.
[02:26] <Jon--> I adjusted volumes and set capture device with space, I still get audio through headphone jack AND PC speakers.
[02:26] <whit3b0y> I don't even know of a name of one...whats most popular or easiest to setup?
[02:26] <escott> Lirth, the error message indicates that you have enabled holds on certain packages. unless thats incorrect you would need to disable those holds
[02:26] <Lirth> escott: I don't know how to enable the holds nor how to disable the holds. How would I go about that?
[02:26] <escott> whit3b0y, the most common proxy is squid
[02:27] <Jon--> plus capture is recording isn't it?
[02:27] <escott> !pinning | Lirth
[02:28] <whit3b0y> Will Squid allow me to mask the fact my second apache is running on port 81?
[02:28] <escott> whit3b0y, im sure it can
[02:29] <Lirth> escott: I don't even know what I have holds on. How would I find that out?
[02:29] <escott> Lirth, read the link ubottu sent you on pinning. if you dont have anything held then its something else about that package configuration
[02:30] <starredsteria> histo: lol it happens
[02:30] <escott> Jon--, nothing you do in alsa is going to make a difference. you need to tell the kernel with a module argument to assume a different board layout, or tweak the layout with hda_analyzer
[02:31] <histo> infinitux: you wanted to use the system wide flash plugin instead of one in your ~/.mozilla/plugins
[02:31] <Jon--> escott, Well that just sounds lovely. I have hda analyzer open, just try enabling/disabling layouts until I find it?
[02:31] <histo> infinitux: righT?
[02:31] <Lirth> escott: How would I tell if I've put a hold on anything
[02:33] <escott> Jon--, the easiest way to do this is to boot your old kernel. run hda_analyzer in monitor mode, and see what it changes when you plug in your headphones. then you can boot the new kernel and apply those changes to the pins to make it switch
[02:33] <Jon--> escott, I think I removed my old kernel.  I get no change in the GUI or in my CLI output here, but I do get audio out.
[02:35] <escott> Jon--, depends. it might be seeing the press detect and enabling the headphone jack but not disabling the speakers in which case you just need to find the speaker pin and turn it off. or it might be missing the press detect entirely in which case you have to find both pins
[02:36] <Jon--> escott, I'm a developer, relatively new to Linux I suppose, and confused as hell. Very few pins even have enable/disable options in hda... -_-''
[02:36] <Jon--> by pins do you mean nodes?
[02:37] <Jon--> Nevermind, I'm being dumb. I'll get back to you in 5ish.
[02:37] <escott> Jon--, the headphone jack pin is the easiest to find because it will have a press detect capability. im pretty sure they were called pins, been a long time since i've looked at the gui
[02:39] <Jon--> escott, I've found the pin for my headphones but it does not offer the ability to disable, if I untick out, it still plays fine....
[02:40] <escott> Jon--, its been so long since ive looked at that gui. i think there is an output checkbox
[02:40] <starredsteria> histo: ... omg.... Trendnet didn't list any update to the driver... sure enough though when I installed the one from the website instead of the one from the cd... it working great so far!
[02:40] <Jon--> escott, There's IN OUT and HP, and they don't seem to be doing anything at all.
[02:41] <escott> Jon--, you could change what input it has selected. i know it can be done, i just dont know whats on the screen. if you want to post a screenshot
[02:41] <Jon--> escott, Those checkboxes are the only editable part for my headphones, some other pins have volume sliders and other things.
[02:42] <Jon--> escott, I'd love to, except gnome-screenshot completely broke on upgrade to 12.04. I have a ticket in. Ubuntu has so many bugs after upgrading -_-
[02:43] <doofy> anyone have suggestions on the easiest way to get ubuntu installed on my macbook pro with gfx switching for the 2 cards in the easiest way possible? I can't seem to put all of the different pieces together (EFI boot, gfx switching, etc)
[02:43] <Jon--> It doesn't save to ~/Pictures as it is supposed to due to upstream changes, does not prompt me to save screenshot, nor does it copy anything to clipboard. I created a bug report a month ago, not a single person has responded. I'm not pleased with 12.04 so far, to say the least.
[02:44] <whit3b0y> escott, thanks m7
[02:44] <whit3b0y> m8
[02:45] <Jon--> escott, Do what you can, I'm not trying to troll or complain about Ubuntu, but I literally cannot take a screenshot due to another bug, which I am 99% sure I'll have to reinstall (problem from upgrading distributions), or is specific and will need a bug-fix. In either case, it is not usable now, even purging and reinstalling the package :(
[02:49] <histo> starredsteria: that's cool
[02:52] <starredsteria> histo: pretty lame at the same time lol
[02:54] <histo> starredsteria: what's lame?
[02:55] <arulmozhi> When I download Blender build from graphicall.org and eztract them into home folder with executable permission. The blender will be launched if I dbl clikck the blender program in the extracted folder. But in Ubuntu 12.04 it is not the case. it just stay low... not execution... wat to do?? urgent
[03:02] <brainwave> how to see if a particular driver is installed in my ubuntu?
[03:02] <jQr> I have a fun issue: I have my old mail backup from when I used Mac Mail. it's in some format that has folders called .mbox and they contain Info.plist files. I'd like to convert them to actual .mbox files. Any ideas? The eventual goal is to upload them to gmail, so if I can skip the middle step somehow, I'm all ears.
[03:03] <genii-around> brainwave: If it's available at all" modprobe -l | grep drivername     ... if it's loaded: lsmod | grep drivername
[03:04] <Justrouble> Hello, can anyone help? I'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 on a dell inspiron e1505 laptop and I can't get the internet to work. How would I go about correcting this?
[03:05] <histo> Justrouble: are you in ubuntu now on the machine?
[03:06] <Justrouble> No, I'm in Windows.
[03:07] <Justrouble> I checked the dell web site and it was no help at all.
[03:07] <Justrouble> Unless I missed something.
[03:07] <tinkster> resolvconf guru anyone?
[03:09] <alex2020> how to I compile and install this:https://github.com/Mach5/supersonic
[03:09] <alex2020> here are the instructions
[03:09] <alex2020> https://github.com/Mach5/supersonic/blob/master/INSTALL
[03:10] <alex2020> Im im new to linux...
[03:10] <alex2020> can you put the codes I need to do on pastbin
[03:11] <nenicholas> I have an e-mail worm (sending e-mails to my contact list) and I have NO idea how to stop it on Linux.  I haven't been able to download and successfully use a Linux based anti-virus.  I did run ClamTk, but it didn't find anything.  Can anyone help?
[03:12] <Justrouble> I may have found my answer. Did a blanket search on Google. Found the problem solved for 11.04 so I assume it will work on 12.04. Here's hoping, and thanks for trying.
[03:14] <usr13__> nenicholas: The answer is that it is not coming from your computer.
[03:15] <usr13__> nenicholas: Bottom line is that you can't stop it.
[03:15] <nenicholas> usr13__: Oh...really?
[03:18] <usr13__> alex2020: pastebinit
[03:19] <semitones_irssi> hello! new to this channel here -- I was just wondering if you can use fsck to check every partition it can find on a disk? I've only used it to check individual partitions before... thanks!
[03:19] <semitones_irssi> with this nick anyway :) my quassel is down
[03:20] <coolpro> when I turn on a pc, I get the error; i386_start_kernel+0xa9/0xb0 can anyone explain, why?
[03:20] <usr13__> semitones_irssi: You have to tall fsck which partitions to check.  See:  man fsck
[03:20] <uw> so i have apache installed and working, however i would like the contents of certain directories visiable.  anybody know how i would go about doing that?
[03:21] <uw> is it just a permissions thing or something else
[03:22] <usr13__> semitones_irssi: Actually, you can use the -A option.
[03:23] <usr13__> semitones_irssi: with the -A  option, fsck  will  default  to  checking  filesystems  in /etc/fstab serially.
[03:24] <usr13__> semitones_irssi: I've never done it that way, so I dono, but what I will tell you is that the partition(s) should not be mounted when you rnu fsck against them.
[03:24] <nenicholas> If I have an e-mail worm...do I have to close my e-mail account and open a new one?  To stop the e-mails being sent out from my account?
[03:24] <semitones_irssi> usr13__: thanks a lot for your advice! I'm using a livecd now, so I think it should be ok to do -A
[03:25] <usr13__> semitones_irssi: Go for it...
[03:26] <alex2020> so can someone help?
[03:26] <ramboIII> ciao
[03:26] <ramboIII> lista
[03:26] <johnjohn1011> was thinking of new computer equipment. any recommendations for new video, intel or amd (on board cpu). or nvidia?
[03:26] <alex2020> Go with intel
[03:27] <johnger> hola
[03:27] <johnger> n
[03:27] <usr13__> alex2020: Well, it says:  sudo apt-get install maven2 openjdk-6-jdk
[03:27] <alex2020> then what? I need to complie it, and itall it. I don't know how to do that
[03:28] <genii-around> johnjohn1011: intel or nvidia video, intel cpu
[03:28] <johnjohn1011> alex2020, so onboard graphics with sandy or ivy bridge?
[03:28] <usr13__> alex2020: Yea, that is the first step, those are "the packages needed to build Supersonic"
[03:29] <johnjohn1011> genii-around: why not any of the AMD FM1 chips?
[03:29] <alex2020> but then what? sorry if I sound rude... but im new to linux.
[03:29] <usr13__> alex2020: Probably need to read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[03:30] <genii-around> johnjohn1011: My recommendation is just from personal experience where most of the AMD chipsets I've worked with either had overheating issues or needed special drivers
[03:30] <usr13__> alex2020: It says the second step is:  sudo dpkg -i subsonic-installer-debian/target/supersonic-<version number>.deb
[03:30] <Pici> alex2020: It looks like theres an easier to setup version of that software at http://www.subsonic.org
[03:30] <genii-around> johnjohn1011: Almost all Intel stuff "just works"
[03:31] <Pici> alex2020: I highly suggest that you use that unless theres something that you really need from this fork.
[03:31] <usr13__> alex2020: (That would be after you've downloaded the subsonic-installer I suppose
[03:31] <johnjohn1011> genii-around: yeah, i have the cheapest intel board and can usually run the live cd in 3d right off the bat
[03:32] <usr13__> alex2020: It is always best to install what ever software you need from the package manager.
[03:33] <u_just_got_nayna> lol
[03:36] <semitones_irssi> usr13__: can I do something like "fsck /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2" ?
[03:37] <usr13__> semitones_irssi: I would suggest one at a time.  Do you suspect a problem?  Why are you doing it?
[03:37] <usr13__> semitones_irssi: you probably want to use the  -y  switch
 alex2020: It says the second step is:  sudo dpkg -i subsonic-installer-debian/target/supersonic-<version number>.deb  what does it mean by: target/supersonic-<version number>.deb
[03:38] <usr13__> alex2020: Did you see Pici's advice?
[03:39] <alex2020> Im not taking his/her advice
[03:39] <usr13__> alex2020: Ok, that is up to you.
[03:40] <alex2020> but does it mean by the /target?
[03:40] <semitones_irssi> usr13__: I had lubuntu installed, but about a month ago it crashed, wouldn't boot up, and failed to reinstall. I think the harddisk might have a bad spot somewhere on it keeping me from using linux.
[03:41] <Need2Grow> linux is named after peanuts character linus?
[03:42] <usr13__> Need2Grow: No
[03:42] <histo> Need2Grow: try again
[03:43] <usr13__> Need2Grow: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux
[03:43] <histo> Need2Grow: linus torvalds
[03:44] <Need2Grow> thats what i meant
[03:45] <usr13__> semitones_irssi: Do the partitions one at a time.  e.g.  fsck -y /dev/sda1
[03:46] <usr13__> semitones_irssi: If you really must do both with one command:  fsck -y /dev/sda1 ; fack -y /dev/sda2
[03:46] <usr13__> semitones_irssi: If you want to see what you have:  sudo fdisk -l
[03:47] <usr13__> semitones_irssi: Actually, the fsck commands must be run as super-user so:  sudo fsck -y /dev/sda1 ; sudo fsck -y /dev/sda2
[03:48] <reuf> i want to search bash history for a command containing certain string - how do i go about this?
[03:48] <usr13__> reuf: history |grep <string>
[03:49] <launch> qql connais ladresse http://www.google.com ?
[03:50] <launch> avant jallais sur http://www.yahoo.com ?
[03:51] <Pici> !fr | launch
[03:53] <launch> i like http://www.google.com nice address
[03:54] <tinkster> lol
[03:54] <uw> anybody here know apache?
[03:55] <uw> trying to set up a public directory to share files
[03:55] <usr13__> uw: Ask your question and see.
[03:55] <AcidRain2012> uw: why not do ftp?
[03:55] <semitones_chatzi> usr13__: hey -- i dc/d there.. did you suggest the -y flag for automatically fixing things with fsck?
[03:56] <usr13__> semitones_chatzi: Yes
[03:56] <semitones_chatzi> ok giving it a shot, thanks!
[03:56] <usr13__> semitones_chatzi: But not on fat or ntfs or.. other non linux partitions.
[03:57] <launch> I also like http://www.yahoo.com when http://www.google.com dont work
[03:58] <usr13__> uw: ... or you may be interested in  nfs
[03:58] <usr13__> !nfs | uw
[03:59] <Lymphocyte> how do i defrag?
[03:59] <uw> id like to set up a directory where users can browse files through a browser
[03:59] <usr13__> Lymphocyte: No need....
[03:59] <Lymphocyte> i mean defrag free space?
[03:59] <usr13__> Lymphocyte: You don't defrag free space
[04:00] <sertaconay> Lymphocyte you can use ubuntu-tweak to clear download caches.
[04:00] <Lymphocyte> well i ran e2freefrag and got
[04:00] <Lymphocyte> Num. free extent: 154190
[04:00] <Lymphocyte> 154190 free space fragments
[04:00] <L3top> !defrag | Lymphocyte
[04:00] <Lymphocyte> so basically the only way is to backup and restore?
[04:00] <uw> usr13__, these people wont have anyway to use NFS
[04:01] <L3top> read.
[04:01] <Lymphocyte> cuz i delete about 2 million files on a 3 year old ext4 FS
[04:01] <L3top> read.
[04:01] <Lymphocyte> read what?
[04:01] <Lymphocyte> That is a dead link
[04:02] <launch> sometime http://www.ubuntu.com may seem better than http://www.ubuntu.org
[04:02] <L3top> oops... so it is. Sorry. One second Lymphocyte.
[04:02] <Dayofswords> L3top:  yep, dead link, it's a parked domain now
[04:03] <Lymphocyte> yeah i know ext4 dosent need defragmenting but... 150K+ free space fragments that will just cause more fragmentation
[04:04] <anderson> hola
[04:04] <Need2Grow> are-ola
[04:05] <anderson> alguien de colombia
[04:06] <L3top> !es | anderson
[04:06] <dax> anderson: try #ubuntu-co
[04:06] <anderson> ok
[04:08] <L3top> Lymphocyte: if you believe you need to, then yes... backup and restore is the best way to do it... but there are tools that will address it. I just am not sure it is really going to gain you anything due to the journaling system.
[04:08] <Rikun> Need help with corrupted USB.  Will Ubuntu help me find those files?
[04:09] <L3top> You will have to give more details Rikun.
[04:09] <Rikun> Of course.
[04:10] <Rikun> I have a USB that got corrupted by improper ejection.  It now says I have to reformat before I can use again.
[04:10] <zamn> hey where can i find all of the options for .desktop files?
[04:10] <L3top> is this in windows Rikun?
[04:10] <Rikun> I was told that using Ubuntu will allow me to mount this USB and extract the files.
[04:10] <Rikun> Yes, it happened on Windows.
[04:11] <L3top> It is certainly possible, but far from guaranteed Rikun. There are tools on both sides of the fence which can help.
[04:12] <L3top> However in linux you can force it to mount... but it might not be the best approach Rikun.
[04:12] <Rikun> Really?  If there's a Windows tool I can use I'd love to hear it.
[04:13] <L3top> check in ##windows Rikun.
[04:15] <ki4ro> .
[04:15] <tr3nton> In this screenshot, the lens is selected as a drop down list from the search bar. Does anyone know how to use this instead of icons at the bottom of the screen? http://i.stack.imgur.com/cdL2l.png
[04:16] <yggdrasil> is there a way to turn off the monitor in an x session from a ssh session?
[04:16] <yggdrasil> like dpms it
[04:17] <_Andrew> Can anyone link me to documentation on how to do a command line install like on the alternative cd but using the DVD release? The DVD release is the only version that boots on my mac mini.
[04:17] <MageofHope> Hello; how would I add this workaround to a program's code?
[04:17] <MageofHope> https://github.com/ebihara/touchegg-mirror/commit/11e4b3d6cc0ca313ec0d29f45546eb3b9850d187
[04:17] <_Andrew> I want a headless server
[04:19] <hylian> Hello all.
[04:29] <doggy_> a
[04:31] <dooglus> something's going horribly wrong with this laptop.  it's really slow
[04:32] <dooglus> taking up to 5 minutes to open a local mp3 file for instance
[04:32] <dooglus> I suspect either the encrypted home filesystem or a hard drive failure - how can I find out which, if either it is?
[04:32] <dooglus> and what happened to this channel?  it used to be busy
[04:39] <Dan-mc> hey im on 10.04 on my server and is there a way to get sun-java6-jdk on my syste
[04:39] <Dan-mc> system*
[04:40] <Giovanik2012> ciao
[04:40] <Giovanik2012> !lista
[04:43] <coolstar> Can someone direct me to the dev channel?
[04:44] <jrdnn> coolstar: ubuntu-devel
[04:45] <Dan-mc> is there a way to get sun-java6-jdk on my server
[04:45] <Canadian1296> What install disk do I need to download for a 64 bit computer that is not AMD. I tried the AMD64 one, and it didn't boot. So what do I need? I'm positive the computer is 64 bit, as I ran ubuntu 10.04 64 bit on it.
[04:45] <coolstar> jrdnn: I went there, and the topic said it's #ubuntu-app-devel
[04:46] <jrdnn> coolstar: Sorry.
[04:46] <Canadian1296> nevermind, it just booted.
[04:50] <[flux]> Ubuntu 9.04 is installed on my laptop, and I want to upgrade it to 12.04.
[04:51] <andrewh192> hey, was wondering what room i would go to to get help with installing something via a command line
[04:51] <[flux]> I have a live disc, can someone tell me how to go about it?
[04:52] <andrewh192> i am not sure [flux] but I think you should be able to boot with the live disk and then just install from there..
[04:52] <eth0h4cker> Need help with keeping mdadm raid intact after fresh os install.
[04:52] <[flux]> andrewh192: And it will upgrade?
[04:52] <eth0h4cker> Anyone point me to a good guide?
[04:53] <andrewh192> [flux]: i am not sure to be honest, never really had to do that. But i think u might also be able to go to the update center and it should give you a list of ways to upgrade to 12.04 as well.. not that much experience with upgrading to a new version myself but that would seem like a good place to start
[04:54] <[flux]> Ah okay
[04:54] <[flux]> Hmm
[04:54] <[flux]> Seems like I can Erase and install
[04:54] <[flux]> Might as well
[04:55] <andrewh192> hey, would u know what channel i would be able to find some help with installing programs via a command line?
[04:56] <uw> andrewh192, make install?
[04:57] <uw> probably configure, make, make install
[04:57] <andrewh192> ok, i was having alot of error messages coming up when i was just "making" it
[04:57] <andrewh192> wasn't sure why
[04:58] <andrewh192> tryin to install a program called SoX - Sound eXchange
[04:58] <andrewh192> and it wasn't going so well... wasn't sure why though...
[04:59] <andrewh192> use of C99 long long integer constant [-Wlong-long] was just one of the error messages that i got
[05:00] <Pici> andrewh192: sox is in the package repositories.  sudo apt-get install sox
[05:01] <ovnicraft> hello i recently install a pptp services in my ubuntu now clients are connected but just they just can ping to IP server
[05:01] <ovnicraft> but between them can't ping
[05:01] <al3x> [flux]: boot it and see what it says... make sure it offers ugrade as an option or something before you commit to an install...i have never upgraded ubuntu, so i cant tell you anything for sure
[05:01] <ovnicraft> i am in 10.04 server edition
[05:01] <ovnicraft> usung pptpd services
[05:02] <ovnicraft> s/usung/using
[05:03] <andrewh192> cool, thanx for the info Pici
[05:03] <andrewh192> got it installed and working... :-) yay!!
[05:22] <dan64> on Ubuntu, in which file is /usr/local/bin added to the PATH?
[05:23] <dan64> I checked /etc/profile and ~/.profile
[05:25] <TeknoJuce> is it possible to open multi screen sessions via screenrc not (-t)
[05:25] <apremalal> hi
[05:25] <dooglus> dan64: maybe /etc/environment ?
[05:25] <apremalal> how can i set the path variable permanently in ubuntu?
[05:26] <apremalal> i tried by editing profile
[05:26] <apremalal> ad tried export command
[05:26] <apremalal> but when i close the terminal PAHT does not exist
[05:27] <dooglus> apremalal: log out and in again?
[05:27] <apremalal> dooglus, ok let me see
[05:27] <dooglus> apremalal: or what are you trying to do?  if you set it in .profile, it will be defined in child processes of any shell you run
[05:27] <dooglus> apremalal: if you want it set in something that wasn't run from a shell, put in it .xprofile
[05:31] <apremalal> dooglus, i tried by log out and printenv PATH.but my path is not there
[05:32] <apremalal> dooglus,
[05:32] <apremalal> if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then
[05:32] <apremalal>     PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH:/home/anuruddha/Programs/android-ndk-r8"
[05:32] <apremalal> fi
[05:32] <FloodBot1> apremalal: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:32] <apremalal> dooglus, above is the edited profile
[05:33] <Sphinx> backtrack
[05:37] <dan64> dooglus, that's it, thanks
[05:46] <pablo_> hola
[05:49] <Gini> I need some help since I installed Ubuntu 12.04 and LibreOffice I have been unable to open my old Open Office password protected odt files. I've checked the Ubuntu help files and the problem seems to be connected to Firefox, but I cannot understand the solutions posted. I have uninstalled Firefox and uninstalled and reinstalled LibreOffice but that did not help.
[05:51] <crimsonmane_> gini, in the chat here, type without the quotations "/join #libreoffice"
[05:51] <Gini> Thanks!
[05:52] <Gini> join #libreoffice
[05:52] <crimsonmane_>  /
[05:52] <crimsonmane_> at the beginning
[05:52] <crimsonmane_> that's their channel, it'll be slow to get an answer but if anyone knows, they should.
[05:56] <jagginess> Gini, if you lost your password or wiped out your old machine, theres' a company working on a product here http://lastbit.com/OpenOffice/default.asp
[06:01] <grendal> hey just out of curiosity..does anybody actually use unity?
[06:02] <cvr> grendal: no
[06:02] <jagginess> grendal, for me its forbidden
[06:02] <jagginess> grendal, more like diss-unity for me..
[06:03] <grendal> talk about a piece of crap
[06:03] <grendal> whos idea was that?
[06:03]  * jagginess believes at least gnomes-hell is better :) ahem.. gnome-shell i mean :)
[06:03] <grendal> i mean i get they whole single desktop several screen size things but.
[06:04] <grendal> come on...work on the thing that works... 10.04 had the most functional desktop of any os hands down..and they striped that out?
[06:04] <crimsonmane_> 10.04 popped my linux cherry
[06:05] <grendal> I keep thinking its going to get better...i keep just switching it back to gnome classic
[06:05] <grendal> i hate to be a downer an all that but..why the hell cant you just create a launcher on your desktop?
[06:06] <grendal> it is very bazar
[06:08] <grendal> oh oh and a huge one for me..i use quanta plus..well i use to
[06:09] <grendal> i see no way of installing this unless you are upgrading and its already on the machine?
[06:09] <dooglus> try xfce4 grendal?  i like it
[06:10] <grendal> i like gnome...i just got use to useing it..
[06:10] <dooglus> ok
[06:10] <grendal> it just seems like just a huge mistake changing the default desktop ..
[06:11] <jagginess> grendal, yes.. once you do.. unity gets broked if you try to set it back on..
[06:11] <grendal> anyway..anybody on how to get quanta plus installed on a 1204 gnome desktop?
[06:12] <grendal> na jagginessi have both i can switch between them i just dont see unity getting the things fixed that need to be fixe
[06:12] <robert45> hi guys, how can I automatically exclude a package isnide apt config file ?
[06:12] <grendal> d
[06:13] <grendal> I have had no problems migrating customers to the 10.04 desktop from mac and windows platforms..but 12.04 they are like  "how does this work again?"
[06:14] <jagginess> grendal, ubuntusoft center is slow, there's synaptic..
[06:14] <mflum> Where can I find help with a failed Java 7 Install
[06:15] <grendal> jagginess ya, accept that package is not available in any repo..and ya that software center is a nightmare
[06:16] <grendal> i gave up on that thing like 2 days after 12.04 upgrade
[06:16] <grendal> its got more adds than the vegas strip
[06:17] <Guest80581> hi. im trying to install ubuntu 12.x onto a thumb drive from the "preview" version of Ubuntu. using the installer on the desktop, i get to the partition page. but i dont know which listing is my thumb drive. how do i find out?
[06:18] <jrdnn> Guest80581: It should start with da, if not unplug your thumb drive, refresh the list, see which entry is gone,. plug it back in, refresh, install to that entry
[06:20] <Guest80581> would it be bad if the "preview" version is -on- the thumb drive?
[06:21] <jrdnn> Guest80581: That would probably crash then, unless it loaded everything to memory :/
[06:22] <Guest80581> hhmm..
[06:22] <Guest80581> after this vid, ill try it
[06:23] <grendal> you should be able to run it from a thumb drive..ive done that several times
[06:23] <Guest80581> if u dont see me later, thanks
[06:23] <jordan__> Can you make scripts like a windows batch file in ubuntu?
[06:23] <grendal> create a startup disk on the thumb drive
[06:23] <jrdnn> jordan__: Google "learn bash scripting"
[06:24] <jordan__> jrdnn, k thanks.
[06:26] <extraymond> Hi I got a problem with liferea, gwoffice and lightread, in which I'm no longer able to access my google account.
[06:26] <extraymond> Anyone can help me? Thank you!
[06:30] <Gini> Thank you Jagginess
[06:32] <brightbeat> yo
[06:32] <brightbeat> so many ppl, no questions!
[06:34] <Blue1> indeed
[06:41] <OliveiraBorges> hi, i need help with dkim files, anybody can help me
[06:41] <Lymphocyte> does installing ia32-libs cause performance hit?
[06:41] <OliveiraBorges> i show you the name error
[06:42] <Lymphocyte> does installing ia32-libs cause performance hit?
[06:43] <OliveiraBorges> what ?
[06:44] <jrdnn> Lymphocyte: Only if it makes you almost out of disk space
[06:44] <Lymphocyte> but the ia32-libs will only load when needed right?
[06:44] <Lymphocyte> android sdk
[06:45] <OliveiraBorges> you talk with me ?
[06:46] <jrdnn> Lymphocyte: Shared objects/libraries are just loaded when a program uses them and only loaded once across the system
[06:48] <OliveiraBorges> when i try restart the dkim-filter show the error : failed to kill 8849: no such process, what i do ?
[06:52] <kbotnen> hi, is there any mechanism that allow regular users to use the update-alternatives system? without sudo?
[06:54] <rypervenche> kbotnen: Yep. suid or guid
[06:56] <kbotnen> rypervenche, like suid the needed symlinks?
[06:56] <fidel> ahoi
[06:56] <kbotnen> I tried to create a script that inviked with the update-alternatives and suid on that, but that did not work actually.
[06:56] <krr> Hello, do someone have experience with Varnish caching?
[06:56] <rypervenche> kbotnen: suid the update-alternatives binary.
[06:58] <hipitihop> Anyone know what the magic incantation is to get second monitor supported on a gigabyte nvidia GTX 560
[07:00] <kbotnen> rypervenche, I could try that. sounds a bit scary though, security wise. but thanks for the tip.
[07:01] <rypervenche> kbotnen: Always is, security wise.
[07:02] <rypervenche> kbotnen: You could also make sudo passwordless for that one command.
[07:02] <kbotnen> I just want users to switch between versions of certain specific programs, not to be able to ruin the whole system or open a potential security risk :)
[07:05] <joubin> If there are any ubuntu developers here, I just like to say thank you for doing what you do
[07:08] <ryannathans> how does one change the 'res' of their term? I'm not using a gui
[07:15] <Dayofswords> ryannathans: you have a gui right now?
[07:20] <voldyman> can ubuntu-bug or apport-bug work with third party apps??
[07:21] <extraymond> test hi
[07:22] <auronandace> voldyman: i think it is only intended for software that ubuntu can bug fix
[07:22] <auronandace> voldyman: or at least send the reports upstream
[07:22] <voldyman> auronandace, i thought it helped file a bug in launchpad
[07:22] <auronandace> voldyman: 3rd party apps are unsupported
[07:23] <auronandace> voldyman: yes
[07:23] <voldyman> auronandace, is this documented somewhere ?
[07:24] <voldyman> in the man page firefox is given as an example
[07:24] <auronandace> voldyman: i'm not sure sorry, see if it has a man page?
[07:25] <gvandeweyer> is it possible to upgrade the kernel to 2.6.37+ on an ubuntu-10.4-lts server? I have an amd 6276 running but performance is low due to only basic support by the kernel.
[07:25] <gvandeweyer> and I'd rather not upgrade to 12.04 before the launch of 12.04.1-lts
[07:25] <auronandace> gvandeweyer: you can upgrade the kernel but you will lose support
[07:26] <gvandeweyer> auronandace: that is by manual download and compile then? apt-get linux-headers are blocked at a lower version
[07:27] <auronandace> gvandeweyer: yes, or by ppa but if you do we can't help you, it is unsupported
[07:27] <gvandeweyer> hmm
[07:28] <gvandeweyer> and would it be safe to install 12.04-lts yet ? (by cd/usb/image)
[07:28] <auronandace> gvandeweyer: sure, works great here
[07:28] <gvandeweyer> auronandace: and then I'd still have lts support? dist-upgrade does not give support untill release of 12.04.1
[07:28] <auronandace> gvandeweyer: i always fresh install (never upgrade, too much can go wrong)
[07:29] <auronandace> !dist-upgrade | gvandeweyer
[07:29] <gvandeweyer> !upgrade
[07:30] <gvandeweyer> auronandace: i meant do-release-upgrade, my mistake
[07:31] <auronandace> gvandeweyer: now you know the difference, many people make the same mistake
[07:32] <LostyJai> hey guys, i'm running 10.04LTS with ntp 4.2.4p8
[07:32] <LostyJai> is there any way to upgrade that?
[07:33] <auronandace> !info ntp lucid
[07:33] <dileep> ubuntu miltilink bluetooth
[07:33] <auronandace> LostyJai: not if you still want support
[07:34] <LostyJai> is there any way to get a newer version of ntp?
[07:34] <auronandace> LostyJai: not if you still want support
[07:34] <NoOova> hello all! My ubuntu freezs when system has more than 2gb
[07:34] <LostyJai> maybe upgrade to latest 12 LTS
[07:34] <NoOova> freezes after some time
[07:34] <NoOova> 1-10 minutes
[07:34] <NoOova> why it is possible
[07:35] <LostyJai> faulty ram?
[07:35] <LostyJai> this a vm?
[07:35] <auronandace> LostyJai: yes, that would get you a newer version (sorry, i thought you wanted to stick to 10.04)
[07:35] <dileep> ubuntu miltilink bluetoot
[07:35] <LostyJai> auronandace: thanks
[07:35] <kristenbb> @escott hi, are you there?
[07:36] <NoOova> LostyJai: at 4 gb of ram windows is working ok (from usb stick) but my ubuntu freezes
[07:36] <NoOova> ram is not faulty
[07:36] <NoOova> i tried other rams
[07:36] <NoOova> with 2gb all ok
[07:36] <NoOova> with 4gb freezes =(
[07:37] <NoOova> memtest show no errors
[07:37] <NoOova> with night of testing
[07:37] <NoOova> and windows works ok
[07:37] <auronandace> !enter | NoOova
[07:38] <NoOova> auronandace: sorry, ok
[07:38] <aleksian_> 123
[07:40] <dileep> ubuntu miltilink bluetoot
[07:40] <prats3113> Hi. Whenever I do a sudo apt-get upgrade, I get the following error:  Internal Error: Could not find image (/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-25-generic-pae) dpkg: error processing linux-image-3.2.0-25-generic-pae (--configure):  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2 dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-image-generic-pae:  linux-image-generic-pae depends on linux-image-3.2.0-25-generic-pae;
[07:40] <prats3113> Please help me out
[07:40] <auronandace> dileep: not sure what you are trying to accomplish with three words. maybe you'd like to ask for help, if so you'd need to provide details
[07:41] <killer_> hi...when i run vmware i get "several modules must be compiled and loaded into the running kernel"
[07:41] <prats3113> I guess the entire error could not be pasted in one go
[07:41] <dileep> yes
[07:41] <auronandace> !vmware | killer_
[07:43] <dileep> help mp
[07:43] <prats3113> Hi. Can anyone help me out with my problem?
[07:43] <auronandace> dileep: how can anyone help? you haven't explained your problem
[07:44] <dooglus> prats3113: did you miss it?  he said "ubuntu miltilink bluetoot".  what more do you need??
[07:45] <besTKoDerEverR> hi guys
[07:45] <auronandace> prats3113: did you apt-get update before?
[07:45] <prats3113> dooglus: who said it? and what is ubuntu multilink bluetoot?
[07:45] <dileep> yes
[07:45] <besTKoDerEverR> should the JAVA_HOME variable be set in: .bashrc   or in /etc/enviroment file ? Or both??
[07:45] <prats3113> auronandace: yes I did. and it was successful. No errors.
[07:46] <auronandace> prats3113: how about: sudo apt-get install -f
[07:46] <dileep> ppp miltlink
[07:46] <prats3113> auronandace: gimme a minute, I'll try and get back to you.
[07:47] <prats3113> auronandace: Tried. But getting the same error.
[07:47] <vlt> Hello. I got this kernel msg in syslog: http://pastebin.com/GfKQsqHf   Where does this come from?
[07:48] <auronandace> prats3113: hmm, you haven't manually deleted anything under /boot have you?
[07:48] <prats3113> auronandace: No. I haven't.
[07:48] <prats3113> auronandace: Infact I havent deleted anything!
[07:48] <fiete> what is the standard mail server for ubuntu? procmail, sendmail, exim?
[07:48] <auronandace> !fixapt | prats3113
[07:50] <besTKoDerEverR> should the JAVA_HOME variable be set in: .bashrc   or in /etc/enviroment file ? Or both??
[07:50] <besTKoDerEverR> i guess in enviroment?
[07:50] <prats3113> ubottu: tried both the commands. getting the same error.
[07:50] <besTKoDerEverR> environment
[07:51] <auronandace> prats3113: i'm out of ideas
[07:51] <prats3113> auronandace: the file under /boot is missing right?
[07:51] <auronandace> prats3113: that appears to be the case
[07:52] <prats3113> auronandace: currently, versions 23,24 and 26 are present in the boot folder. 25 is not there?
[07:52] <prats3113> auronandace: can there be any hack for this?
[07:52] <auronandace> prats3113: can you repaste the error in a pastebin?
[07:53] <logiclord> I am looking for someone to configure my lan infrastructure using ubuntu in Delhi India ..... Any idea ?
[07:53] <vlt> !details | logiclord
[07:53] <prats3113> auronandace: haven't used pastebin before. will take some time.
[07:55] <MacroMan> I added a software repository to a text file to get some software a while ago, but now I'm getting an error using the update manager telling me the it couldn't download the repository index. Does anyone know where the text file is so I can remove the repository?
[07:55] <auronandace> logiclord: configure your lan infrastructure? sounds like a hardware thing
[07:55] <prats3113> auronandace: was quite easy. here's the link : http://pastebin.com/jnp6KGff
[07:55] <MacroMan> I've forgotten where it is.
[07:57] <auronandace> prats3113: silly suggestion: try installing that package
[07:58] <ui> Macroman: maybe /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:59] <prats3113> auronandace: which one? there are dependency problems as well.
[07:59] <MacroMan> ui: Yup, got it thanks
[07:59] <ui> you're welcome
[08:02] <auronandace> prats3113: linux-image-3.2.0-25-generic-pae
[08:02] <prats3113> auronandace: I think the main problem is with that missing file in /boot. If that is resolved, everything will be fine I guess. What do you think?
[08:03] <auronandace> prats3113: have you had a powercut or an unexpected restart (like overheating that interrupted an update)
[08:04] <prats3113> auronandace: Same error again. It starts with setting up linux-image-3.2.0-25-generic-pae.....and then that Internal error:
[08:04] <prats3113> auronandace: No. Never.
[08:05] <auronandace> prats3113: i can't think of why that file isn't there
[08:05] <prats3113> auronandace: if I get a version25 file from somewhere and paste it in /boot, will it be OK?
[08:05] <brainwave> i need some help in ssh, i'm getting pubkey denied error
[08:05] <brainwave> ssh: Could not resolve hostname umask 077; test -d ~/.ssh || mkdir ~/.ssh ; cat >> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys: Name or servicn
[08:06] <brainwave> this is the output of final step of ssh -v <hostname>
[08:06] <auronandace> prats3113: i'm not sure sorry
[08:06] <prats3113> auronandace: can you please check your /boot? is that file there in your system?
[08:07] <auronandace> prats3113: i don't use a pae system (mine is 64bit)
[08:07] <prats3113> auronandace: Oh, ok
[08:07] <Cyanure> How do I install gcc-4.8 ?
[08:08] <auronandace> !info gcc
[08:08] <auronandace> Cyanure: if you still want support, you don't
[08:08] <joelperez> i can't get my wireless card to work
[08:09] <Cyanure> auronandace, ok, do you know when it will be supported ?
[08:09] <joelperez> fresh install
[08:09] <joelperez> for a BCM4311
[08:09] <prats3113> auronandace: Thanks for your time. I'll figure out something.
[08:09] <hipitihop> I have borked my nvidia driver install, how can I reinstall the default current driver from cli
[08:09] <auronandace> Cyanure: i assume the next release would ship with it
[08:09] <joelperez> i even followed these instructions - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[08:09] <auronandace> prats3113: no worries :)
[08:09] <joelperez> could someone pleas help me
[08:09] <Cyanure> ok thx
[08:11] <kristenbb> hi, I have a problem to connect to my ssh server. It says 'shared connection to myserver closed'. I think it has to do with me using a controlmaster, and an existing ssh connection with no pty allowed. Is it possible to create a tunnel with new rights from within the control master?
[08:11] <auronandace> Cyanure: my mistake, so far the next release seems to have 4.7
[08:11] <starbuck33> help
[08:11] <auronandace> !info gcc quantal | Cyanure
[08:12] <fidel> !ask > starbuck33
[08:12] <fidel> just crying help isnt that helpful ;)
[08:13] <starbuck33> sorry, i was writing in the wrong channel =D
[08:15] <joelperez> neither are these wireless drivers helpful!
[08:16] <auronandace> joelperez: broadcom isn't helpful, use a better wifi chip
[08:16] <lion> hello all can i install java to run faster firefox?
[08:17] <melvin_>   0012345
[08:17] <auronandace> lion: no
[08:17] <lion> why people say this on ubutnu software center?
[08:17] <auronandace> lion: why would you think java makes firefox faster?
[08:17] <lion> maybe some of codes to run faster firefox most have java for example that is a booster
[08:18] <auronandace> lion: no, that is utter rubbish
[08:18] <auronandace> lion: firefox doesn't depend upon java
[08:19] <lion> thanks for your answers :) bye
[08:20] <hipitihop> I have removed nvidia drivers, how can I force a reconfigure to detect and reinstall
[08:22] <moutaman> Question: Hi everybody, I am new to ubuntu development and python, i had created a hello world app with quickly , it work fine for the first time but after that when i try " quickly run" it give me this message "(widecloud:5603): GLib-GIO-ERROR **: Settings schema 'org.gnome.desktop.interface' is not installed" , iam using 12.04, any ideas?
[08:22] <brainwave> anyone help me with ssh?
[08:22] <brainwave> i am getting pubkey denied error
[08:23] <moutaman> brainwave, did you setup the keys, try use ssh-keygen
[08:23] <brainwave> yes
[08:23] <brainwave> i set them up, then added them to ssh-agent
[08:24] <moutaman> brainwave, can you post the result when you try to connect?
[08:24] <brainwave> yes just a minute
[08:25] <brainwave> http://pastebin.com/dP5GtXft
[08:31] <moutaman> brainwave, try using ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id-dsa.pub "user@host -p 6000"
[08:32] <moutaman> brainwave, where id-dsa.pub is your pub key
[08:33] <McPels> hi
[08:34] <moutaman> brainwave, any new results
[08:34] <McPels> I received a file by blue tooth but i do not know where it's gone!
[08:35] <auronandace> McPels: there is a public folder under your home directory
[08:36] <sam1967> ive got an icon n the bottom left corner of my desktop.it looks like a globe. when i put my mouse over it it says posted image open url . then a url of a gif of a funeral which i did not post. any chance ive been hacked. its ubuntu 12.04
[08:36] <McPels> auronandace:  Tnx, it was necessary!
[08:37] <coder2> what are templates in ubuntu?
[08:40] <usr13__> coder2: Can you elaborate just a bit?
[08:41] <coder2> usr13__, as i click on desktop-->new document--->no templates installed| in ubuntu 12.04
[08:42] <usr13__> coder2: Well, templates you must download from various places...
[08:42] <usr13__> coder2: What do you need?
[08:43] <rtyg> .
[08:43] <riex> Hello. Someone here that know how much memory debian 64 bit can show with the normal kernel?
[08:43] <usr13__> coder2: If you have a set of templates on a MS Windows PC, you could copy them over...
[08:43] <usr13__> coder2: Is that your issue?
[08:43] <SwedeMike> riex: more than you are likely to have in the machine.
[08:43] <coder2> usr13__, i want that as i click on new document different option should open like librewriter document etc.
[08:44] <riex> SwedeMike: How much?
[08:45] <usr13__> coder2: Normally, we dont user a template for a new document.  It is up to the user how to fromat a new document.  Exactly what are you trying to do, maybe I can help you.
[08:45] <vlt> riex: 16 exabytes
[08:45] <SwedeMike> riex: terabytes of memory most likely. I can't find the limit.
[08:46] <dD0T> Two questions on shortcuts in 12.04. Is there a way to make Ctrl+Win+Arrow right/left move windows between monitors when they are already snapped to the edge? Also are there shortcuts to enable/disable secondary monitors (kind of like a beamer mode). Thanks.
[08:46] <riex> Ok only 64 bit or both?
[08:47] <SwedeMike> riex: 64bit or 32bit with PAE.
[08:47] <coder2> usr13__, i just want to use like in mac we have similar option for creating template for a xcode application , so why do we are not using that option given in ubuntu
[08:48] <sam1967> ive got an icon n the bottom left corner of my desktop.it looks like a globe. when i put my mouse over it it says posted image open url . then a url of a gif of a funeral which i did not post. any chance ive been hacked. its ubuntu 12.04
[08:48] <riex> SwedeMike:  Also debian?
[08:49] <SwedeMike> riex: what?
[08:49] <riex> I know ubuntu can
[08:49] <riex> The question was about debian. :P
[08:49] <mavericksam> Anyone knows about ldap client authentication in ubuntu 12.04 ?
[08:49] <SwedeMike> riex: I am running debian stable with PAE 32bit kernel with 10 gigs of ram and it's working fine.
[08:49] <SwedeMike> riex: yes, I was talking about debian all along.
[08:51] <mavericksam> Openldap on ubuntu, anybody ??
[08:52] <riex> SwedeMike:  i Also run debian 32 bit. But it Can only show 3.8gb
[08:52] <riex> With the normal kernel
[08:52] <riex> :O
[08:52] <prats3113> auronandace: Hi. Just came back to tell you that my problem got solved.
[08:52] <SwedeMike> riex: you need to use the -bigmem kernel
[08:53] <prats3113> auronandace: I downloaded linux-image-3.2.0-25-generic-pae_3.2.0-25.40_i386.deb using apt-get download. And then installed using dpkg -i method. Now, everything is back to normal. :)
[08:54] <riex> SwedeMike: Thx :)
[08:56] <usr13__> coder2: I don't have any experience with xcode applications, but I found a couple of sites that I think discuss this type of issue.  I'll share links if you like.
[08:56] <zatan> hey I have added new user on ubuntu server just ssh, but when i change user su username, its switch to new user, but do not show my home directory ?
[08:56] <usr13__> coder2: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/MacOSX_Debug_OpenOffice.org_using_XCode
[08:56] <coder2> usr13__, sure!
[08:56] <usr13__> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/759903/how-can-i-insert-source-code-from-xcode-into-openoffice-without-getting-an-parag
[08:57] <coder2> usr13__, i dont want xcode template all i want are default office templates of libre office
[08:57] <usr13__> zatan: How did you create the new user?
[08:58] <zatan> usr13__,  useradd username       and adduser username sudo
[08:58] <__sjh> anyone know of something like rsync (or a patch for rsync) that will take note of moved files? I have a scenario where a backup needs to run daily to a remote host, but there could be enough data moved in a day that the backup takes >24 hours
[08:58] <usr13__> coder2: http://www.libreoffice.org/features/templates/
[08:59] <optimight> Hi ...  How to initiate chat with freenode support?
[09:00] <usr13__> zatan:  Those scripts create home directory by defaut as far as I know.  What OS do you have installed.
[09:00] <zatan> usr13__, 12.04
[09:00] <zatan> lts
[09:00] <usr13__> zatan: Actually useradd does not.  adduser does
[09:01] <cristian_c> Hi
[09:01] <bonno> i i need help with xubuntu i go to xubuntu channel?
[09:01] <usr13__> zatan: With useradd, I suppose you have to do it manually...
[09:01] <cristian_c> How can I activate gestures with Ginn?
[09:01] <bekks> useradd -d /your/home -m
[09:01] <bekks> Of course useradd does create a home directory.
[09:01] <cristian_c> there is this wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch/Ginn
[09:01] <dD0T> Also is there any way to get programs to be consistent in the way they react to mousewheel stuff...there seems no central config for this and chrome not acting like gedit which doesn't act like terminal (and so on) gets old quick...
[09:02] <usr13__> zatan: You could just userdel and delete the new user and then use adduser
[09:02] <cristian_c> but I don't understand how to use it
[09:02] <cristian_c> Any ideas?
[09:02] <zatan> usr13__, i will give a go
[09:02] <coder2> usr13__, i got my answer here is an template http://templates.libreoffice.org/template-center/simple-todo-list
[09:03] <usr13__> zatan: bekks is telling you how to simply create the home dir, so....  either way.
[09:03] <usr13__> coder2: Ok, well there you go.  (I didn't know...)
[09:04] <usr13__> coder2: Thanks for the info.
[09:04] <bonno> how i copy paste something in here?
[09:05] <compdoc> bonno, pastebin
[09:05] <compdoc> http://pastebin.com/
[09:05] <usr13__> bonno: If it is just one line, highlight and hit middle mouse button.  If not use pastebin  or install and use pastebinit
[09:05] <bonno> i right click and there is not option copy.. (i wanna copy what you wrote for example)
[09:06] <bonno> how do i do that? pastebin?
[09:06] <usr13__> bonno: Use the mouse to highlight what you want to copy.
[09:07] <usr13__> bonno: When you get to where you want to dump it, hit middle mouse button.
[09:07] <bonno> middle mouse button works for a line.. but for many lines it shows some wierd chars on the paste
[09:07] <usr13__> works for me... I dono
[09:07] <usr13__> bonno: But you could do  Alt-c  and Alt-v  maybe...
[09:08] <usr13__> Sorry  Ctrl-c  and Ctrl-v
[09:08] <bonno> didnt thought of that lol
[09:08] <bonno> oh..its the same with middle mouse button anyway thanks
[09:08] <usr13__> bonno: I was wrong, it's not Alt  It is Ctrl-c and Ctrl-v
[09:09] <bonno> yeah mater i know the combo..thanks anyway :)
[09:09] <usr13__> bonno: Well, not totally, there are uses for one or the other.  The methods are similar but a little different in what you can do with them.
[09:10] <bonno> what are you refering to?
[09:11] <usr13__> bonno: Well, for instance, if you want to get two sections of text from two different places at once:  Hightligh one section, do Ctrl-c   Highlight another section. Go to where you want to dump, Ctrl-v will dump the first, middle mouse button will dump the second.
[09:12] <usr13__> bonno: But you would have to do it in that order, (Ctrl-v first and then must highlighting text second, because each time you highlight text, you will be able to dump the last highlighted text with middle mouse button).
[09:13] <bonno> so you say cntl+c and middle mouse button are different functions?
[09:13] <usr13__> Yes, a little different process.
[09:14] <bekks> Same process, different clipboards.
[09:14] <bonno> i get it :) thanks different functions .same job :p
[09:14] <bonno> oh..ok
[09:14] <usr13__> But as you can see, if you master how the work, it adds a bit of functionality to your ability to transfer text from one place to another.
[09:15] <usr13__> how *they* work.  (typo)
[09:16] <usr13__> bonno: Yea, bekks puts it more plainly / concise,  "Same process, different clipboards"
[09:16] <sassas123> jthan: here you are: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1084160/
[09:16] <bonno> thanks man
[09:17] <usr13__> bonno: But sometimes, when  you are dumping to a terminal window with middle mouse button, you may have to use shift key.  (And Ctrl-v does not work there, so...)
[09:18] <bonno> cntl +zhift +c/v works though :p
[09:18] <bonno> *shift
[09:18] <usr13__> bonno: For instance if you are dumping text into the vim editor in a terminal window... I think you will need to use shift
[09:18] <mavericksam> ldap client fails through GUI in ubuntu 12.04..help ?
[09:18] <bonno> can i send you private about something else?
[09:19] <bonno> usr13_ ..
[09:19] <usr13__> bonno: Yes, please do.
[09:20] <Guest33943> hello
[09:20] <featherspeed> Does anyone have opinions on sucureboot
[09:21] <featherspeed> Hi guest
[09:21] <MonkeyDust> featherspeed  type !poll
[09:21] <Guest33943> hi
[09:21] <BuenGenio> hi
[09:21] <featherspeed> !poll
[09:22] <BuenGenio> so I used to have 2 windows installs (XP & 7) in addition to the Ubuntu boot
[09:22] <BuenGenio> I've now deleted the XP parition from Windows 7
[09:22] <Guest33943> how?
[09:22] <BuenGenio> but now when I try to boot into 7 again I get grub 012345E346920 "no such device" hd1 "cannot get C/H/S values?
[09:23] <BuenGenio> will grub-update fix that?
[09:23] <sam1967> how do  i remove a launcher ?
[09:24] <sassas123> hey, guys.. I have non-working ethernet in my notebook in Ubuntu.
[09:26] <makara> hi. What can I use to change an HFS+ drive label? Gparted doesn't support it
[09:26] <sassas123> makara: sudo apt-get install hfsprogs
[09:27] <M1k1> hi
[09:27] <histo> sam1967: right click on the launcher and select undock
[09:27] <M1k1> who can help set network interface if suspend i lost wired connection pleasE?
[09:28] <makara> sassas123, thanks. What command changes the label?
[09:28] <histo> M1k1: have you restarted since suspend?
[09:28] <M1k1> yes if i restart that's works but if i suspend lost wired
[09:28] <hulk> hi
[09:29] <sassas123> makara: Just change it in Gparted
[09:29] <sassas123> makara: But I'm not sure it works
[09:29] <sam1967> i only get launch and properties
[09:30] <M1k1> any idea :x?
[09:30] <histo> M1k1: open a terminal and run lshw  find out which driver your network card is loading
[09:31] <newubuntuusertha> hey guys
[09:31] <sassas123> I have non-working ethernet in my notebook in Ubuntu.
[09:31] <newubuntuusertha> have you tried turning it on and off again that fixed it for me
[09:31] <M1k1> histo: display this PCI (sysfs)
[09:32] <histo> M1k1: it will be on the line "driver=" in the -network section
[09:32] <histo> M1k1: or you can pastebin the output of lshw and I will take a look
[09:32] <bekks> lspci -k will be ok too :)
[09:32] <M1k1> histo: http://pastebin.com/G2gZrs73
[09:33] <newubuntuusertha> anyone know  just a good chat channel
[09:34] <DJones> newubuntuusertha: The general ubuntu chat channel is #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:35] <histo> M1k1: okay now pastebin /etc/pm/config.d/config
[09:35] <DJones> !alis | newubuntuusertha It depends what you're looking for, the link the bots gives will let you search for channels around a particular subject,
[09:36] <M1k1> histo: its empty?
[09:36] <bekks> M1k1: Whats the output of lspci -k ?
[09:36] <histo> M1k1: in that file add a line SUSPEND_MODULES="via-rhine" save it and give that a try
[09:38] <M1k1> bekks: http://pastebin.com/PTHdrZ2p
[09:38] <M1k1> histo: i need to save this to file?
[09:38] <histo> M1k1: yes
[09:40] <histo> M1k1: save changes in that file then reboot and test
[09:41] <M1k1> histo: okey its help for wired?
[09:42] <stiv2k> how do i change the font sizes in ubuntu :|
[09:44] <KJB> seriously, what the hell is with Compiz?
[09:44] <KJB> having to run Unity 2D, looking at using XFCE instead..
[09:45] <usr13__> KJB: Try it, you'll like it.
[09:45] <usr13__> .... I do  ....
[09:46] <ssrvm> KJB, try an unofficial, officially not tasted - cinnamon.
[09:46] <makara> the hfsutils don't seem to work with hfs+
[09:47] <makara> how can I change the label?
[09:47] <usr13__> stiv2k: Settings -> Appearance -> Fonts
[09:48] <M1k1> Harpoon:
[09:48] <M1k1> help meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[09:49] <geirha> stiv2k: In the accessibility settings
[09:50] <bonno> i wonder when will i be able to provide help here too :/
[09:50] <usr13__> stiv2k: System -> Preferences ->  Appearance -> Fonts
[09:51] <stiv2k> usr13__ no
[09:51] <stiv2k> doesn't exist
[09:51] <stiv2k> i did it using myUnity
[09:51] <usr13__> stiv2k: no?  Oh unity  sorry...
[09:52] <stiv2k> usr13__ can i not use unity?
[09:54] <stiv2k> also how can i stop the snapping behavior in the middle of my two screens
[09:54] <usr13__> stiv2k:  "gnome-tweak-tool" or "dconf-editor"
[09:54] <usr13__> stiv2k: I don't know about a snapping behavior
[09:55] <stiv2k> usr13__ ?
[09:56] <dD0T> stiv2k: It's in the displays dialog. called "Sticky Edges"
[09:56] <dD0T> stiv2k: If you mean slowing down of the mouse that is
[09:56] <stiv2k> yes
[09:56] <stiv2k> its annoying because its right in the middle
[09:57] <geirha> stiv2k: System Settings -> Universal Access
[09:58] <usr13__> stiv2k: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1779999
[09:58] <usr13__> geirha: Thanks.
[09:58] <stiv2k> the window borders are extremely thin
[09:58] <stiv2k> it makes window resizing a challenge of its own
[09:59] <mavericksam> Any idea about this log from auth.log -- Jun 30 10:37:11 test polkitd(authority=local): Unregistered Authentication Agent for unix-session:/org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Session1 (system bus name :1.35, object path /org/gnome/PolicyKit1/AuthenticationAgent, locale en_IN) (disconnected from bus)
[09:59] <geirha> stiv2k: I hold down Alt, then drag near the borders with the middle mouse button to resize windows
[09:59] <ngtrieuvi92> #bkitsec
[10:00] <geirha> With that approach, you don't have to hit that one pixel to resize, just somewhere nearby
[10:00] <dD0T> stiv2k: You can use Ctrl + Super + Arrow keys if you just want to split (Aero Snap like). Doesn't work for moving between monitors though it seems :-(
[10:00] <MonkeyDust> mavericksam  are you using maverick? if yes, it's EOL
[10:00] <usr13__> stiv2k: Yes, we should have asked which fonts, where?
[10:00] <stiv2k> geirha that's a close second as far as difficulty
[10:01] <stiv2k> i'm done with the fonts! i have tweak tool and myUnity now
[10:01] <stiv2k> thanks
[10:01] <usr13__> stiv2k: Ctrl +  is difficult?
[10:01] <dD0T> stiv2k: Just tried it and it works for me. Be sure to use middle mouse
[10:01] <stiv2k> the middle mouse button is also scroll
[10:01] <dD0T> (I pressed LMB and was wondering why I was only moving...)
[10:02] <usr13__> stiv2k: so....?
[10:02] <dD0T> stiv2k: Ah. I guess whether that's a problem depends on the mouse you are using ;-)
[10:02] <stiv2k> it tends to scroll at the same time while i resize
[10:02] <usr13__> stiv2k: Oh ....
[10:05] <stiv2k> how can i not use unity?
[10:05] <MonkeyDust> stiv2k  type !notunity
[10:05] <stiv2k> !nounity
[10:06] <usr13__> stiv2k: sudo apt-get xubuntu-desktop  #Is what I did.
[10:07] <MonkeyDust> stiv2k  i use classic mode, no whistles and bells
[10:07] <rax-> what's the benefit/difference with http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu ?
[10:07] <usr13__> stiv2k: thunar is a very good file manager, imho
[10:08] <usr13__> stiv2k: http://www.xfce.org/
[10:11] <rax-> I'm setting up a local mirror and it's downloading 87GiB of data
[10:11] <rax-> does this seem too much for 10.04 only?
[10:12] <rax-> http://pastie.org/4230846 mirror list
[10:12] <bekks> rax-: Lucid is 10.04
[10:13] <rax-> yea I know, I said I was setting it up for 10.04
[10:13] <rax-> but is 87gb about right for this?
[10:13] <bekks> Sure, why not?
[10:13] <usr13__> rax-: Hard drive space?
[10:14] <rax-> no issues with space, just online it's estimated to be ~30gb
[10:14] <hansz> on update (using aptitude) I have "/etc/grub.d/proxifiedScripts/linux.save.1: 139: /etc/grub.d/proxifiedScripts/linux.save.1: Syntax error: "}" unexpected (expecting "fi")
[10:14] <rax-> but I assume it's because I'm mirroring both 32 and 64bit packages?
[10:14] <usr13__> hansz: use apt-get
[10:14] <cwillu_in_flight> In an initramfs shell prompt, how does how continue the boot?
[10:14] <cwillu_in_flight> ctrl-d just gives "attempted to kill init"
[10:15] <hansz> this does not allow me to install these three packages: linux-image-3.2.0-26-generic, linux-image-generic and linux-generic.
[10:15] <bekks> rax-: Yes.
[10:15] <hansz> usr13__: why?
[10:15] <cwillu_in_flight> (rebooting doesn't help me, as I can only fix the failure to mount the filesystem during the boot)
[10:16] <minas> When ubuntu shuts down, does it do any logging on the processes it kills?
[10:16] <rax-> thanks bekks
[10:16] <hansz> usr13__: I have the same error using apt-get.
[10:16] <usr13__> hansz: http://pad.lv/831768
[10:16] <usr13__> hansz: What error?
[10:17] <usr13__> oh I see...
[10:17] <hansz> /etc/grub.d/proxifiedScripts/linux.save.1: 139: /etc/grub.d/proxifiedScripts/linux.save.1: Syntax error: "}" unexpected (expecting "fi")
[10:17] <usr13__> hansz: 12.04?
[10:17] <hansz> usr13__: yes.
[10:20] <usr13__> hansz: Well, I don't know if this is relevant but:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1786722.html
[10:21] <hansz> usr13__: thanks. I'll have to look into that.
[10:22] <cwillu_in_flight> what is proxifiedScripts/linux.save.1?
[10:23] <cwillu_in_flight> hansz, what's the context?
[10:23] <cebor> is there a shortcut overview for ubuntu 12.04 in the web ???
[10:24] <LjL> cebor: there is for Unity, http://askubuntu.com/questions/28086/what-are-unitys-keyboard-and-mouse-shortcuts/28087#28087
[10:25] <cebor> ty
[10:25] <usr13__> http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/whats-new
[10:25]  * cwillu_in_flight pokes at hansz with a stick
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> cebor  there's also this (old, 2007) http://ulyssesonline.com/2007/10/25/compiz-fusion-keyboard-shortcuts/
[10:27] <hansz> cwillu_in_flight: the context is updating the system.
[10:27] <cwillu_in_flight> hansz, I came in mid-way, but know something about grub :p
[10:27] <hansz> cwillu_in_flight: so I am left with 3 packages which are partially installed.
[10:28] <cwillu_in_flight> hansz, can you pastebin /etc/grub.d/proxifiedScripts/linux.save.1?
[10:28] <cwillu_in_flight> and do you know where that came from?
[10:29] <cwillu_in_flight> hansz, should be a simple fix, but if there's a package putting a broken script in grub's config, a bug should get filed
[10:29] <hansz> cwillu_in_flight: moment.
[10:30] <Aritz> hi
[10:30] <hansz> cwillu_in_flight: http://pastebin.ca/2169317
[10:31] <cwillu_in_flight> thanks
[10:32] <Aritz> why tcpdump finish, there is no count report?
[10:33] <Aritz> where can i see packets dropped by kernel  with tcpdump? Normally at the end but i dont see any
[10:33] <Lloir> anyone able to help me out? im stuck in an endless dependancy need loop? tried aptitude to fix it and apt-get -f and so on
[10:33] <cwillu_in_flight> hansz, with your preferred editor, delete the white space in front of the EOF on line 98
[10:33] <cwillu_in_flight> that shouldn't be there
[10:33] <cwillu_in_flight> (the closing string in a shell "here-doc" must not be indented)
[10:34] <cwillu_in_flight> hansz, did you edit that file previously, or is that how it came?
[10:35] <cwillu_in_flight> it looks like you might have deleted a line, and mucked up the indentation by accident :p
[10:35] <oCean> tazjin: please use your /away status in your client instead of nick changes
[10:39] <hansz> cwillu_in_flight: no, I have not.
[10:40] <hansz> cwillu_in_flight: I have edited the file. I'll try to update again.
[10:40] <seven> ciao a tutti
[10:41] <hansz> cwillu_in_flight: works! looks like a bug, eh?
[10:49] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[10:49] <bonno> hi
[11:05] <drigollier> hi all
[11:05] <waxkel> hi
[11:06] <robinp> If I have 8 GB of ram - how important is it to have a swap partition - using it for general use and a little developing ….
[11:06] <drigollier> hi waxkel, what's news ?
[11:06] <waxkel> No news for the moment
[11:06] <bekks> robinp: Without swap, you cant hibernate at all.
[11:07] <robinp> bekks: ok, so kinda important for a laptop - but not so much for a desktop (usually left on)
[11:08] <bekks> robinp: For energy saving reason, I am hibernating my desktop when I'm not at home.
[11:10] <robinp> bekks: ok so if I have an 120G SSD and a 750GB HDD - what size and where should I looking at putting my swap (on a Core 2 MacBook Pro)
[11:10] <Ragnareg> hi to all
[11:11] <BluesKaj> robinp, how much RAM ?
[11:11] <robinp> 8GB
[11:11] <kanliot> i can't find out if i'm running fglrx or not.  it says not installed. please help
[11:11] <BluesKaj> no swap needed IMO , robinp
[11:11] <robinp> I'm going to attempt to set it up to triple boot
[11:12] <bekks> BluesKaj: For hibernation, there is always swap needed.
[11:12] <bekks> robinp: I'd put 8GB swap on the 750GB HDD. For hibernation.
[11:12] <kanliot> i would never install without swap even if it's only 400MB
[11:12] <BluesKaj> bekks ..why hibernate
[11:13] <robinp> does the swap therefor need to be 8 GB (to accommodate a 1-to-1 copy of the RAM) ?
[11:13] <LarsN> If I have two ubuntu 12.04 servers running apache. and i want to be able to keep the webroot folders in sync bi-directionally between the servers what solutions would you all suggest?
[11:13] <bekks> BluesKaj: Why not?
[11:13] <bekks> robinp: Yes.
[11:13] <BluesKaj> 8G is plenty for hibernation
[11:13] <BluesKaj> RAM that is
[11:14] <bekks> BluesKaj: Having 8GB RAM, 8GB swap is needed for hibernation. Else, there's the risc that you are using more RAM than you have swap and you cant hibernate anymore.
[11:14] <LarsN> bekks, BluesKaj: this is why it "used" to be common practice to set swap at 2x RAM
[11:14] <bekks> BluesKaj: hibernation means suspend to disk aka swap, standby means suspend to RAM.
[11:14] <bekks> BluesKaj: Dont mix that up please.
[11:14] <LarsN> bekks, BluesKaj: of course now that everyone has a million gigs of ram..... :)
[11:15] <fabian__> Hello everybody!
[11:15] <bekks> LarsN: I've got 16GB and 8GB in my hosts. :)
[11:15] <oCean> LarsN: aside from using a shared filesystem such as NFS or GlusterFS, I would suggest using rsync to synchronize
[11:15] <LarsN> bekks: most the production servers are > 96G now :)
[11:15] <root_348> hi
[11:15] <LarsN> oCean: can rsync take care of bidirectional synchronization?
[11:16] <LarsN> oCean: or do i need to set aside one machine as an admin server.
[11:16] <bekks> LarsN: Thats FUD, honestly.
[11:16] <fabian__> I got Ubuntu 12.04 showing me a message like: "Sorry, Ubuntu 12.04 has experienced an internal error." I can show details. I wonder if someone could help me figure what error is this and how to solve it please?
[11:16] <LarsN> bekks: I was referring to my production servers.
[11:16] <bekks> LarsN: Only production servers with a usage requirement for much RAM do have much RAM.
[11:16] <bekks> Like virtualization hosts.
[11:17] <LarsN> bekks: s/most the production/most of my production/g
[11:17] <LarsN> happier?
[11:17] <bekks> yes :)
[11:17] <robinp> see thinking about it - does the laptop hibernate when it runs low on power - like where does OS X put the RAM image (since it doesn't have swap)
[11:17] <bekks> robinp: when configuring your laptop to do so, it will do so.
[11:18] <LarsN> oCean: have you used GlusterFS at all?
[11:18] <BluesKaj> well , I don't use a laptop or hibernation , but never seen my swap space used
[11:18] <oCean> LarsN: the rsync command/script can reside on any of the webservers. It is able to push or retrieve updated files. rsync has many options, also able to run over ssh etc. Quick search shows a basic example: http://jessesanford.blogspot.nl/2009/09/use-cron-and-bash-script-rsync-to.html
[11:18] <LarsN> oCean: it looks like i might be able to set up a "mirror" between the two (or more) servers.
[11:18] <oCean> LarsN: only in a test setup. But I'm very impressed with gluster
[11:19] <oCean> LarsN: RedHat bought gluster, and now it is called RedHat Storage I think. You can setup mirrorred or distributed storagemembers
[11:19] <bonno> can i join this channel or any other form a browser?  new on irc and dont know ow to find faq and wiki's ..please help
[11:19] <LarsN> oCean: Gluster was going to be my sledgehammer solution to this problem.  the current solution is a hosts file entry, and an: rsync -av -e ssh...  from that host to the slave(s)
[11:19] <BluesKaj> I lied , I do have a laptop , but never use hibernation on it
[11:20] <DJones> bonno: You can connect to this channel using http://webchat.freenode.net/ and filling in yuor nick, channel name etc
[11:21] <clepto> hello, is Jono Bacon log in? whats his nickname?
[11:21] <bonno> thanks a lot..is there any faq answering this although?
[11:21] <DJones> bonno: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml
[11:21] <BluesKaj> bonno, for browser IRC try chatzilla on Firefox
[11:22] <LarsN> oCean: i think I'll spin up a pair of test instances and see if Gluster on ubuntu will work in my environment.  Thanks.
[11:22] <bonno> thanks.. chatzilla is an add-on?
[11:22] <oCean> LarsN: cheers
[11:22] <robinp> bonno: yep
[11:22] <BluesKaj> bonno,I think so yes
[11:22] <bonno> ok
[11:24] <LaOdeAliFarisi> setelah pasang dan konfigurasi conky.. tapi conkynys menutupi shortcut di dekstop?... bgmn caranya utk memunculkan shortcutnya kembali..... tanpa menghapus conkynya?
[11:27] <DJones> !id | LaOdeAliFarisi
[11:27] <kristenbb> hi, I have a problem to connect to my ssh server. It says 'shared connection to myserver closed'. I think it has to do with me using a controlmaster, and an existing ssh connection with no pty allowed. Is it possible to create a tunnel with new rights from within the control master?
[11:30] <kristenbb> ok an easier question then, how to remove everything recursively except for hidden folders ?
[11:32] <kristenbb> ok easier then, what is 1+1 ?
[11:33] <elky> no need to be cheeky, there's just no many people around at the moment.
[11:33] <kanliot> kristenbb, bash channel likes riddles
[11:34] <kristenbb> I don't have a good GUI that tells me how many people there are, but it seems like there is quite a lot
[11:34] <kanliot> rm * -rf should work but it will delete hidden subdirs
[11:34] <kristenbb> well yes I knew that, I want to exclude '.svn'
[11:35] <kanliot> write a recursive functionin bash
[11:35] <kristenbb> that sounds difficult
[11:35] <elky> kristenbb, use this as a guide, but make sure to take a backup first: http://www.tomauger.com/2012/tips-and-tricks/unix-1-liner-delete-all-directories-except-a-particular-one
[11:36] <simosx> What's the IRC channel for the Ubuntu Apps Showdown competition?
[11:36] <SmashLink> hey guys! Does anyone know about any tutorials/examples about ptpd?
[11:37] <SmashLink> i've got it running but i don't even know what to do next to do some tests
[11:37] <kristenbb> elky: thanks. I don't understand the ! .* part. Does that mean that without it, it would remove parent directories as well ?
[11:38] <kristenbb> I mean, the     ! -name '.*'     part
[11:38] <vlt> Hello. I got this kernel msg in syslog: http://pastebin.com/GfKQsqHf   Where does this come from?
[11:39] <BluesKaj> bekks, my apologies for recommending no swap, I didn't realize that "hibernation" meant writing to the swap file from RAM ,and then turning the power off. Hibernation to me means a lower level of power keeping the memry powered up and active . Hibernation in the computer sense of the word is a misnomer..to me and the dictionary , hibernate implies asleep with low power setting
[11:40] <oCean> simosx: I think that would be the #ubuntu-app-devel channel
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> simosx  http://developer.ubuntu.com/showdown/
[11:42] <elky> kristenbb, without that, it'd remove anything starting with a ., so dotfiles and dotdirs. as i said, take a backup first and then you can keep trying until you find the right combination for your expected outcome.
[11:44] <zax> hi how to change permissions from -rw-r--r--  to   -rw-------
[11:45] <SmashLink> some ptpd tutorials?
[11:45] <bugs_bugger> hi there. i've got a question about compiling: i'm trying to build gimp 2.8. one of the dependencies is babl which i compiled with a prefix. how can i set the prefix right in the gimp configure so that it detects the installed babl package?
[11:46] <MonkeyDust> zax  try chown 600
[11:47] <zax> MonkeyDust; thanks
[11:47] <bekks> chown wont work, chmod will work.
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> idd
[11:47] <bekks> chmod g-rw o-rw ...
[11:49] <jillsmitt> where can i check out system requirements of software center apps?
[11:51] <maximb> hello, I've just finished installing a new ubuntu server and I want to update it, for some reason when I do "apt-get update" I get : The following packages have been kept back:
[11:51] <maximb>   linux-headers-server linux-image-server linux-server  , why kept back ?
[11:53] <Darkasakerionz> Hello, there is any way to put tightvnc over ssh and not over internet? Thanks
[11:53] <BluesKaj> maximb, run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:54] <maomao> ping
[11:54] <imanc> to install 12.10 on a win7 machine, as the sole OS, do I need to use a pen drive or something?
[11:54] <imanc> or can I initiate the installation from win7 itself
[11:54] <simosx> oCean, MonkeyDust: thanks (for the irc channel)
[11:55] <maomao> how to use this?
[11:55] <imanc> ping url ?
[11:55] <BluesKaj> imanc, are you going to just ubuntu or dual boot , your question isn't clear
[11:56] <BluesKaj> just use
[11:56] <imanc> BluesKaj: just ubuntu, I think
[11:56] <imanc> BluesKaj: I'm not entirely sure yet - it may be worth me leaving win7 here. But I'd tend to only use win7 for testing purposes (in browsers), so I'd probably just run it through virtualbox, hence thinking I may be better to just run ubuntu
[11:56] <BluesKaj> so you want to get rid of windows ? ..we need to be sure about this
[11:57] <imanc> BluesKaj: OK, yes I want to get rid of it
[11:57] <ikonia> imanc: take some time to think
[11:57] <imanc> ikonia: to dual boot, or not to dual boot. That is the question.
[11:58] <imanc> I take it dual booting is easiest from win7
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> imanc  you mean wubi?
[11:58] <maximb> BluesKaj: 10x it worked, but why it doesn't work with regular napt0get update ?
[11:58] <SimonJai> hey there, is there a way to route all ntp traffic to go out through a specific ethernet using iptables?
[11:58] <imanc> MonkeyDust: yes
[11:58] <BluesKaj> imanc, you can also dual boot windows and ubuntu if you wish , but it's a longer process involving windows resizing partition then installing anew ext partition for ubuntu
[11:59] <maomao> me too
[11:59] <MonkeyDust> imanc  what BluesKaj says, it's easier in the long term
[11:59] <LarsN> SimonJai: I'm not 100% sure but you might even be able to configure that in the ntp client.
[11:59] <imanc> OK, here's the deal… I guess. I don't care about win7 at all. But I have a fairly large hard drive and if it's quicker to just leave it in place, then so be it. But if it's actually quicker to remove it, then even better.
[11:59] <SimonJai> LarsN: not in the NTP version I'm using
[11:59] <ikonia> SimonJai: sure -p for ports and -s -d source/destination and -i interface
[12:00] <ikonia> SimonJai: you should be able to tell ntp to listen on speicif interfaces, which will force it out of those interfaces also
[12:00] <SimonJai> i set it using "-I eth0:0" parameter but doesn't seem so
[12:00] <SimonJai> =/
[12:01] <robinp> can linux read and write to JHFS+ partitions or do they need to be HFS+
[12:02] <SimonJai> "iptables -A OUTPUT -p udp --dport 123 -i eth0:0"
[12:02] <maomao> apple?
[12:02] <SimonJai> that doesn't look right =/
[12:03] <BluesKaj> imanc, well , that's your decision  , but either way DL an ubuntu iso/image and burn it to media first. Also if  you wish to dual boot gparted livecd is agood way to setup your partitions for windows and ubuntu . If your'e not familaier with partitioning , suggest you do some reading /research
[12:03] <lion> Hello all I want a pdf  reader with highlight and comment support.Do you know one of the best?
[12:03] <robinp> maomao: yeah
[12:03] <nag_> hi all, Is there any gui tool like Adobe photoshop
[12:04] <rudivs> I use the following command to limit internet access to a 'trusted shell': "sudo -g internet -s; sudo iptables-restore < /etc/iptables.rules"; is there some way to get the restore part to run even if the terminal is closed without exiting the shell?
[12:04] <maomao> gimp
[12:04] <sherlockholmes> Hello everyone, where can I find the source for libebook-1.2 ? Is it embedded within gnome-extras ?
[12:04] <LjL> nag_: GIMP and Krita
[12:04] <BlouBlou> lion: okular, but it will install kde librearies
[12:04] <BlouBlou> libraries*
[12:05] <nag_> ljl: thnx
[12:05] <narayana> imanc: avoid installing with wubi if you're going to work on ubuntu primarily. if win7 is screwed, so might your linux. Create separate partitions for linux, and install using the live cd/usb
[12:05] <imanc> BluesKaj: thanks. I don't have any media to stick the iso on, but it seems like the simplest option, so i'll go out and buy a usb drive
[12:05] <imanc> narayana: thanks; makes sense.
[12:05] <lion> thank you but I want to use gnome...................
[12:05] <lion> can you say 3 anothers?
[12:05] <BlouBlou> lion: it works fine with gnome, it just will use qt under gnome
[12:05] <BluesKaj> imanc, cds are easier to use for installation and have fewer problems
[12:06] <narayana> lion: xournal is nice, so is pdfedit but the latter is more work
[12:06] <imanc> BluesKaj: I take it here's no issue burning to dvd either?
[12:06] <BluesKaj> imanc, no dvd is fine
[12:06] <bekks> BluesKaj: Easier than...?
[12:06] <imanc> BluesKaj: thanks
[12:07] <BluesKaj> usb, bekks
[12:07] <lion> I am using a programme that wrote on the qt frame work  it means I have kde libraries?
[12:07] <ikonia> lion: it means you have QT libraries
[12:08] <maomao> yes
[12:08] <lion> How i can install okular ? only sudo apt-get install okular ?
[12:08] <BlouBlou> lion: yep
[12:09] <lion> and it automatic install kde libreries?
[12:09] <BlouBlou> it will install qt libraries, yeah
[12:09] <ikonia> lion: it will install what it needs
[12:10] <lion> on the software center we have 4 Okular    what is diffrent between them?
[12:10] <ikonia> lion: what does the descriptions say
[12:10] <maomao> 看不懂阿
[12:11] <MonkeyDust> !cn
[12:11] <lion> no i searched okular on software center and it shows 4 oklur
[12:11] <feisar> Hi, the following gives me an error: 'sudo ufw allow from any to <IP_ADDRESS> port 60000:65535'
[12:11] <feisar> ERROR: Must specify 'tcp' or 'udp' with multiple ports
[12:11] <maomao>  /join #ubuntu-cn
[12:12] <BlouBlou> lion: install it by "sudo apt-get install okular" then, so you won't have to choose
[12:12] <erinaceus_> Evening, I just bought a new laptop with a 24 GB ssd cache thingy and a 500gb HDD. If I uninstall windows and install / on the ssd  will the laptop still work or ist the sdd hard wired as cache
[12:12] <feisar> but this doesn't work either: sudo ufw allow from any to <IP_ADDRESS> port 60000:65535/tcp
[12:12] <MonkeyDust> feisar  tcp is checked on errors, udp isn't
[12:12] <lion> tnx
[12:12] <feisar> MonkeyDust: thanks but what do you mean?
[12:13] <ahhughes> how the &*(#@# do you close Banshee? I go media, close... and it minimizes and continues to play, there is nothing in the task bar, only if I expand the sound/speaker icon in the top rhs of screen.
[12:13] <feisar> how would I open a port range for one specific IP address (interface) using ufw?
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> feisar  my guess: udp is used for streaming media (among others), and that isnt allowed by the filter
[12:13] <ahhughes> I can only pause
[12:14] <erinaceus_> ahhughes: ctrl+q ?
[12:14] <kristenbb> isn't svn supposed to refuse the commit if there are conflicts ?
[12:14] <ahhughes> nope erinaceus_
[12:14] <feisar> MonkeyDust: but I'd like to open TCP 60000-65535 for a specific IP address (interface)
[12:15] <erinaceus_> ahhughes: Well then i dont know
[12:15] <ahhughes> reboot
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> feisar  isnt that an ip-tables thing?
[12:16] <feisar> MonkeyDust: ultimately yes it's IP-Tables but I'm using UFW to make the rules
[12:16] <BluesKaj> feisar, does your router/modem have application support in tcp/udp ports? if so you might try that option
[12:17] <feisar> BluesKaj: my router does yes but I need to sort out the firewall on the ubuntu server first
[12:17] <MonkeyDust> feisar  there's also gufw
[12:17] <BluesKaj> feisar, nevermind ..UFW needs configuring
[12:17] <feisar> I have no gui
[12:18] <MonkeyDust> ok
[12:18] <feisar> are you saying that I may have hit a ufw limitation?
[12:18] <erinaceus_> So noone has an opion to my question?
[12:19] <OerHeks> erinaceus_, i think your 24 gb ssd will work as a normal systemdisk
[12:19] <bekks> erinaceus_: We have no clue how the SSD in your laptop is wired.
[12:19] <BluesKaj> feisar, if you enable the application support in your router , most will then block all other ports except those you choose to open for your apps
[12:19] <erinaceus_> OerHeks: Thx, that's what i wanted to hear ;)
[12:20] <bekks> And a 24GB SSD is most likely supposed to be used as Intel-Whatever-Fast-Cache, and cant be used as a native SSD.
[12:20] <abdul_> jugno
[12:20] <erinaceus_> bekks: No, but could've been someone hat a similar situation
[12:20] <erinaceus_> *had
[12:20] <feisar> BluesKaj: I need to resolve the issue I have on this Ubuntu server, not on my router but thanks
[12:21] <BluesKaj> feisar, I was merelyhinting that you have dual FWs running in your case
[12:22] <feisar> BluesKaj: oh right, sorry, I misunderstood. How/why would I have two firewalls running on an Ubuntu Server install?
[12:22] <BluesKaj> one on the router if you have application support enabled and UFW
[12:23] <aetoxx> Can someone please tell me what this options mean? (I)nherit / (P)rofile / (C)hild / (N)ame / (U)nconfined / (X)ix / (D)eny / Abo(r)t / (F)inish
[12:23] <aetoxx> It's for configuring AppArmor.
[12:23] <aetoxx> But AppArmor apparently thinks that's clear.
[12:25] <BluesKaj> uhoh ...problems here ... telephone co is outside , gonna lose internet service for 15mins or so, or so I'm told
[12:25] <feisar> BluesKaj: fixed it, my syntax was not quite right, it should have been: 'sudo ufw allow proto tcp from any to <IP_ADDRESS> port 60000:65535'
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> feisar  how did you find out?
[12:25] <BluesKaj> feisar, cool , good to hear
[12:28] <feisar> MonkeyDust: I studied this a little more carefully: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man8/ufw.8.html
[12:31] <Pupeno_W> What's the proper place to modify the prompt system wide?
[12:32] <Golf> ciao
[12:33] <Golf> !list
[12:35] <mobodo> I just updated my ubuntu computer and now eth0 has disappeared… is this a known issue?
[12:35] <geirha> Pupeno_W: You cannot and should not. Not for existing users anyway. You can modify /etc/skel/.bashrc to change the default prompt new users will get.
[12:36] <geirha> Pupeno_W: Assuming, of course, you're talking about the bash prompt
[12:36] <bekks> mobodo: Just take a look at ifconfig -a
[12:38] <mobodo> bekks: ahhh! it is there… so I guess it's just not active anymore
[12:38] <Pupeno_W> thanks geirha .
[12:39] <mobodo> I also get a crash on startup for aptd, wonder if that's related...
[12:40] <Pupeno_W> Does root get a different set of files than other users? they seem to differ to .skel.
[12:40] <dezertir> русские есть?
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[12:42] <arcaico> Hello. I want to install my bluetooth module
[12:42] <arcaico> Anyone Can help me?
[12:42] <urshx> arcaico: yeah
[12:43] <VectorX> hi, i want to implemeting multiseat, sounds like its not available in gnome, would it work in kubuntu ?
[12:43] <arcaico> urshx, I installed bluez and bluetooth packages
[12:43] <aetoxx> Can anyone tell me what Child and Name mean here? (I)nherit / (P)rofile / (C)hild / (N)ame / (U)nconfined / (X)ix / (D)eny / Abo(r)t / (F)inish
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> arcaico  install blueman
[12:44] <urshx> идите нахуй.
[12:45] <urshx> и хуй сосите :)))
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> !ru
[12:45] <T3X> I bough a new ethernet network Adapter and installed in my destop but ubuntu didnt detect it. ifconfig still showing that i have only one network interface which eth0
[12:45] <mouse_> I have a problem.  Every time I try to run a game it always goes into fullscreen mode by default which puts my widescreen monitor resolution out of range.  I alt-tab and alt-f4 won't reset the resolution and not only that but alt-f4 rarely ever closes the program.  And even if I go into another tty and kill the program then go back to x session, the monitor will still say out of range and I have to reboot before I can see anything again.
[12:45] <mouse_>   Does anyone have any experience or solutions for this other than changing each config file for every program manually?
[12:46] <arcaico> MonkeyDust, How I configure blueman? not found my module automatic
[12:46] <urshx> !ru сосите
[12:46] <T3X> I bough a new ethernet network Adapter and installed in my destop but ubuntu didnt detect it. ifconfig still showing that i have only one network interface which eth0. How do i check if my new ethernet adapter working or not?
[12:47] <BluesKaj> T3X, run lshw to see if it's listed
[12:47] <arcaico> using blueman-assistant -- No such adapter
[12:47] <mobodo> what are the tools to configure the network on 12.4? When I go in the control panel it tells me the "system network services are not compatible with this version"?
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> arcaico  install blueman, it appears as an icon, click on it to configure
[12:51] <T3X> BluesKaj: yes it there
[12:51] <mobodo> weird - "sudo NetworkManager" brought back the network connection...
[12:52] <T3X> BluesKaj:: stated like this "*-network DISABLED"
[12:53] <C112911> hey how to hack atm
[12:53] <C112911> ...:............................................................................................
[12:53] <C112911> ,,,,,,,,
[12:53] <chu> Pardon C112911?
[12:53] <DJones> C112911: Thats not a topic for tis channel
[12:53] <DJones> s/tis/this/
[12:54] <BluesKaj> T3X, what about network manager , does it list another ethX
[12:54] <T3X> BluesKaj: there is no destop interface for me i am running server edition
[12:54] <bekks> T3X: NetworkManager has a CLI too.
[12:55] <T3X> bekks: How?
[12:55] <chu> T3X: I believe it's called nmcli
[12:56] <chu> !info nmcli
[12:56] <chu> Mmm, maybe not. Ignore me :(
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> ./ignore chu ;)
[12:57] <launch> jaime bien http://www.google.com entk
[12:57] <chu> :)
[12:57] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[12:57] <Pici> T3X, chu: network-manager itself provides /usr/bin/nmcli
[12:59] <launch> the official website is http://www.ubuntu.com ?
[12:59] <arcaico> MonkeyDust, not found =/
[12:59] <bekks> launch: Yes.
[12:59] <arcaico> but in dmesg I find
[12:59] <launch> thanks
[13:00] <BluesKaj> T3X, what does,  lspci | grep -i net , show
[13:00] <BluesKaj> ?
[13:01] <T3X> BluesKaj: shows Two diffirent Ethernet controller one is intel and ather one is VIA.
[13:02] <r3m> is http://www.ubuntu.org official too?
[13:02] <Rovanion> Is there a command for changing locale permanently?
[13:02] <BluesKaj> T3X, what's the purpose of 2 NICs anyway ?
[13:02] <lion> excuse me when i go to update manager i seecommon data for vlc but I can not check that .why?
[13:03] <T3X> BluesKaj: for setting it up as router and firewalle box
[13:03] <MonkeyDust> !locale| Rovanion
[13:03] <T3X> BluesKaj: cant afford to buy $2000 Cisco Router to secure my network
[13:04] <BluesKaj> T3X, how many machines on your network ?
[13:05] <T3X> BluesKaj: between 20~50
[13:06] <T3X> BluesKaj: ifconfig eth1 up, start showing data transmission but i think i need to add it in /etc/network/interfaces and configure it manualy right
[13:07] <BluesKaj> T3X, yes have you set tthe infaces file up for static internal IP ?
[13:08] <BluesKaj> interfaces file
[13:08] <T3X> BluesKaj: will do now
[13:09] <MonkeyDust> T3X  use pastebin to show the interfaces file to the channel
[13:10] <BluesKaj> T3X, dunno how this will apply to a large network, but here's a guide , http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-ubuntu-linux-convert-dhcp-network-configuration-to-static-ip-configuration.html
[13:14] <Kartagis> does nslookup care /etc/hosts?
[13:14] <PapaSierra> what's the significance of the 3 in libpcre3-dev? how do i verify that these isn't a newer version for ubuntu 12 for example?
[13:15] <BluesKaj> Kartagis, ??
[13:16] <Kartagis> BluesKaj: I mean, does /etc/hosts get considered when using nslookup?
[13:18] <BluesKaj> Kartagis, nameservers should be listed in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head
[13:18] <BluesKaj> Kartagis, or list the IPs in /etc/hosts.allow
[13:19] <gemini123> how should i completely remove dropbox from ubuntu
[13:19] <gemini123> via terminal if possible?
[13:20] <gemini123> will this work..
[13:20] <gemini123> sudo apt-get remove dropbox; rm -rvf ~/.dropbox ~/.dropbox-dist
[13:20] <Kartagis> BluesKaj: I don't mean nameservers. suppose I've put in <IP_ADDRESS> www.example.com for testing purposes but actually it has the IP <IP_ADDRESS>. does nslookup show me <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>?
[13:20] <habib> Hi! How to know wifi adapter model in notebook?
[13:21] <bekks> Kartagis: Depends on your configuration.
[13:21] <bekks> habib: "lspci | grep -i net" is a good point to start
[13:21] <habib> thnx
[13:22] <MrMirth> good moring.  I have a dell D430 that has a core2duo processor.  is that processor a 64 bit processor?  what is the best version of ubuntu to use?
[13:22] <BluesKaj> gemini123, what about purge rather than rm -rf
[13:23] <gemini123> i dont know i am completely noob in it ...i googled to remove and found in https://www.dropbox.com/help/41/en
[13:23] <gemini123> but i dont understand what it says
[13:23] <gemini123> i know it will remove it
[13:23] <BluesKaj> sorry Kartagis , I don't what you mean
[13:24] <gemini123> but i want to know how command was written
[13:24] <BluesKaj> know
[13:25] <drag0nius> might be a bit off-topic, but is there way to access router in Bridge Only mode, DHCP not running and ARP blocked?
[13:25] <Rovanion> Do I need to completely restart my computer after changing locale or will all processes started after I've changed /etc/default/locale start with that locale?
[13:26] <BluesKaj> gemini123, that's from the dropbox site ..I think they know bettern than we do how to remove dropbox completely , so run the command
[13:26] <bekks> Rovanion: The former.
[13:26] <Rovanion> Ha
[13:26] <Rovanion> Thanks bekks
[13:26] <Hexeon> hey bekks. didn't know you were here too
[13:27] <calbadude> hey simon
[13:28] <gemini123> BluesKaj... thats ok but how can one make his own command to remove dropbox
[13:28] <gemini123> experts in terminal may never look on dropbox page to find command to copy and paste... hurray they did it
[13:28] <gemini123> but how can one write his own
[13:29] <BluesKaj> gemini123, copy and paste the command into the terminal and run it
[13:30] <gemini123> Original command: udo apt-get remove dropbox; rm -rvf ~/.dropbox ~/.dropbox-dist
[13:30] <gemini123> explanation:
[13:30] <gemini123> sudo(superuser) apt-get(to get) remove(and remove) dropbox(this application); rm(???) -rvf(???) ~/(???).dropbox(???) ~/.dropbox(???)-dist(???)
[13:31] <gemini123> i want to know those ???
[13:31] <lion> excuse me how i can write comment with adobe acrobat reader ?
[13:31] <fidel> lion: how is that an ubuntu question?
[13:32] <fidel> i mean ...its an acrobat question isnt it? ;)
[13:32] <T3X> BluesKaj: it working like a charm, I just had to identify it in /etc/network/interfaces, after that execute ifconfig ethX up.
[13:32] <compdoc> lion, you can write in Writer or any editor, and then print to a pdf file
[13:32] <BluesKaj> T3X, cool :)
[13:33] <lion> I can not comment a page on acrobat on ubuntu but this option was on windows
[13:34] <lion> can any body answer?
[13:34] <compdoc> many pdf files are locked. Did you use a pdf editor liek Acrobat?
[13:35] <fidel> lion: the question: why cant you create comments in your acrobat on linux?
[13:35] <fidel> what version have you tried - is there an error text or similar
[13:35] <fidel> feed us with informations and dont assume we read your brain ;)
[13:35] <lion> yes , version 9, and there is not the comment icon that is on windows
[13:35] <OerHeks> lion use pdfedit ?
[13:36] <lion> oerHeks ,no
[13:36] <BluesKaj> gemini123, yes , copy and paste this command into the console and click enter , it will remove dropbox completely , sudo apt-get remove dropbox; rm -rvf ~/.dropbox ~/.dropbox-dist\
[13:36] <BluesKaj> gemini123, yes , copy and paste this command into the console and click enter , it will remove dropbox completely , sudo apt-get remove dropbox; rm -rvf ~/.dropbox ~/.dropbox-dist
[13:37] <BluesKaj> gemini123, ignore the first post post
[13:37] <gemini123> yes i know that ... and have already removed i just dont understand how this is written
[13:37] <gemini123> places where i putted ??? means what?
[13:39] <OerHeks> lion i guess you cannot edit a pdf with acrobat. good luck.
[13:39] <BluesKaj> those commands mean to remove all dropbox folders , files and configuration files for dropbox
[13:39] <BluesKaj> gemini123, ^
[13:40] <gemini123> can u please please do that in brackets
[13:40] <gemini123> eg.
[13:40] <gemini123> sudo(superuser) apt-get(to get) remove(and remove) dropbox(this application)
[13:40] <lion> no i want only type a "comment"
[13:40] <fidel> lion: so your actual question is: does acrobat 9 on linux supports the comment-function?
[13:40] <gemini123> pleaseeeeeeeeeeee
[13:40] <FloodBot1> gemini123: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:40] <lion> actually yes
[13:40] <BlueEagle> lion: Did you check the Adobe Acrobat documentation?
[13:40] <lion> no why?
[13:41] <BlueEagle> lion: I guess it would say if it was supported or not. Just a hunch.
[13:41] <fidel> lion: cause thats the way to check
[13:41] <BluesKaj> !cli | gemini123
[13:41] <Rovanion> my LANG=sv_SE.UTF8 but I still can't type åä and ö into my terminal. I'm connected over ssh.
[13:41] <lion> Ok if it does not support the comment -function can you type a pdf reader for linux that support>
[13:41] <lion> ?
[13:41] <fidel> lion: besides: i just installed acrobat 9 for testing it - and i do see a comment button - not sure if it works - as i really dont care ... but there is one in the sidebar ;)
[13:42] <lion> thank you
[13:42] <lion> tnx fidel
[13:42] <BlueEagle> lion: I do belive that Foxit supports it.
[13:42] <lion> tnx i'll check it
[13:43] <fidel> lion: maybe use a search for alternative linux opdf readers- random hit: http://maketecheasier.com/8-alternative-pdf-readers-for-your-consideration/2010/11/12
[13:43] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/17031/is-there-a-way-to-enable-commenting-adobe-pdf
[13:43] <gemini123> Ok boss
[13:44] <lion> there is one comment butoon on adobe reader but how  add a comment?
[13:44] <fidel> man
[13:45] <BlueEagle> lion: Just a wild guess: Click the comment button, click on the document where you want to add the comment, enter comment.
[13:45] <BlueEagle> lion: If that doesn't work try clicking the "Help" lable in the menu bar.
[13:46] <lion> aha thanks
[13:46] <fidel> BlueEagle: seems like they ship a button - but not a working one
[13:46] <fidel> at least i wasnt able to use it within 30 sec so i removed the entire package again as i dont see a reason to have it installed in the first place to be honest
[13:47] <fidel> lion: either write a mail to adobe and wait for ever without getting a reply - or search a solution yourself. best solutiuon is most likely choosing something not crappy as adobe itself as alternative reader
[13:47] <SmashLink> does somebody know about any ptpd tutorials?
[13:49] <K1rk> Anyone running a Dell Latitude 2120 with Ubuntu 10.04 LTS?  I'm encountering a strange issue with the wired network interface, which is a Broadcom NetXtreme BCM57760.  See: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2021681
[13:50] <legolaas> hey guys can you check does okular has add comment support
[13:50] <legolaas> ?
[13:50] <musa> hello, I have upgraded my kernel to 3.4.4 under 12.04 using dpkg -i. How do I downgrade back to official kernel? Is it safe to do dpkg -r?
[13:51] <OerHeks> nice logolaas /lion to change your name ...
[13:51] <bekks> musa: After ensuring you have another kernel installed, yes.
[13:52] <legolaas> only answe this
[13:52] <legolaas> who is lion?
[13:52] <BlueEagle> K1rk: First let me commend you on an excellent help request. Secondly the massive amount of collisions indicate a speed issue. This may be a NIC running at 1000MBPS on one end and 100MBPS on the other. I had this issue when transferring more than a few consecutive MB and it was caused by a faulty cable.
[13:52] <legolaas> oerHeks: are u ok?
[13:52] <OerHeks> legolaas lion check it out yourself, i gave a link some minutes ago : ocular comments are only visible in ocular.
[13:53] <haylo> what parts of linux are written in C ? is it mostly the kernel and maybe the installers ?
[13:53] <OerHeks> legolaas it is not done changing your name while you get help.
[13:53] <musa> bekks: well I had the official kernel prior to dkpg install
[13:53] <BlueEagle> K1rk: I am making the assumption that you are receiving an IP address from a DHCP-server of sorts. Is this from the ISP or from a router in your house? Does resetting the router resolve the issue? Also, have you experienced this issue with other operating systems on the same computer?
[13:53] <legolaas> tnx bye
[14:00] <SmashLink> any ptpd tutorials?
[14:00] <moes> I have 10.04 installed with grub 2 to mbr...I also have 2 other distro booting from 10.04 grub2...now I want to add 12.04 to a partition and boot it from 10.04 grub...To what partition do I install grub 2 in 12.04 ???
[14:01] <K1rk> BlueEagle, I have not really used any other operating system on this computer, however we have 200 of them.  I am using 3 for testing.  Of the 3 I left on last night, 2 exhibit this issue this morning.    So I'm ruling out the network as a cause.
[14:01] <brainwave> I have an ubuntu headless
[14:01] <brainwave> with xfce desktop
[14:01] <usr13__> K1rk: Try another NIC ?
[14:02] <brainwave> What i need is, when i try to ssh into it, the x11vnc creates a display
[14:02] <kokjo> hi im having problems with ssh and ipv6. i have setup a server with a ipv6 tunnel from he.net, and a client running miredo. i can connect to the server over ipv6(via nc). but i can't login to the server via ssh over ipv6. can anybody help me?
[14:02] <brainwave> and i am presented with login screen
[14:02] <K1rk> usr13__, it's a netbook.  I suppose a USB nic would be possible but otherwise...
[14:02] <usr13__> O
[14:03] <BlueEagle> K1rk: That would also rule out faulty cabling (unless both the ones with the issue have faulty cables and that makes no odds). Is there any events on the windows DHCP server that can indicate when/what caused the loss of lease? Anything useful in /var/log/kern.log or /var/log/dmesg ?
[14:04] <BlueEagle> K1rk: Ofcourse a driver issue in linux may be just as likely, but then I do not see why the 3rd one didn't also go hay-wire.
[14:04] <K1rk> BlueEagle, it doesn't seem like a loss of lease to me.  The interface disappears from network manager. If it were a loss of lease, I would expect to be able to renew the lease.
[14:04] <usr13__> K1rk: Maybe an IP conflict.  Do you have any static IPs within the DHCP pool?
[14:05] <usr13__> if so, move them outside the pool
[14:05] <BlueEagle> usr13__: Did you even read the forum post?
[14:05] <dpy> hi guys
[14:05] <K1rk> usr13__, we do have statics and reservations but the DHCP server is working great for hundreds of other computers.  Also an IP conflict wouldn't cause the interface to disappear from Network Manager Gnome, I don't think.
[14:05] <K1rk> I think I agree with BlueEagle that it's a driver issue.  I downloaded the latest driver from http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/netxtreme_desktop.php and I am going to compile it this morning.
[14:06] <popo> selam
[14:06] <popo> [tr]hi
[14:06] <usr13__> BlueEagle: Yes
[14:06] <dpy> doesn anyone know of you can skip a particular dkms build for a particular kernel?  I have three kernels here, for one the DKMS build fails, so it fails for all.
[14:06] <BlueEagle> K1rk: Are you all IP6?
 what will happen if in extras-myapp.desktop i will make terminal =true?
[14:07] <BlueEagle> wooo: Make a backup of the file and try it. If it no longer works then restore the backup.
[14:07] <kokjo> \join #linux-net
[14:07] <usr13__> K1rk: Are these static IPs set by the DHCP server?  Or are they hard coded into the individual PC's config files?
[14:07] <K1rk> BlueEagle, no we're a flat IPv4 network, a /16
[14:08] <K1rk> usr13__, static IPs are not set by DHCP server but they aren't in the DHCP pool range.  10.9.1.x is reserved for static assignment.  10.9.6.x through 10.9.19.x are pool. 10.9.20.x are reservations.
[14:08] <K1rk> usr13__, "reservations" are my way of saying the static is assigned by DHCP
[14:08] <K1rk> 10.9.1. are servers and hence cannot rely on DHCP.
[14:08] <lion> how i can use "HUD" on KDE desktop
[14:08] <BlueEagle> K1rk: If you look at the output you will see that the NIC has got no IP4 address. It does however have an IP6. Not sure if it should matter, but there ought to be a setting to disable IP6 on the NIC and that may help.
[14:08] <K1rk> Especially since one of them is the DHCP server. :P
[14:08] <usr13__> K1rk: Maybe change to /24 ?
[14:09] <K4k> I restarted my system today and after reboot, nm-applet does not start at login any more. I've checked under startup applications and it was missing. I added it back there and it's still not starting. Anywhere else I might check?
[14:09] <popo> :@
[14:09] <popo> (6)
[14:09] <popo> :|
 my application is in pending review status...i want that my application will start in terminal...would it be ok if i put terminal =true?????
[14:09] <K1rk> usr13__, why would that be necessary?  This is the first time I have ever seen this problem.  It seems to me it's specific to this model of device.
[14:09] <popo> 144
[14:09] <K1rk> BlueEagle, I thought all network interfaces autoconfigured with a link local IPv6 address with no outside help?
[14:09] <lion> popo please don't trolling
[14:09] <K1rk> BlueEagle, I'm open to the idea of turning off IPv6 but I'm going to try the new driver first I think.
[14:10] <oCean> !tr | popo
[14:10] <lion> Hello guys can i use HUD onkde
[14:10] <lion> ?
[14:11] <compdoc> heads up display?
[14:11] <wooo>  BlueEagle: my application is in pending review status...i want that my application will start in terminal...would it be ok if i put terminal =true?????
[14:11] <K1rk> BlueEagle, we should be able to get away with compiling drivers as we do not automatically push out kernel updates. But I'd rather avoid them because the end-user will be able to update their kernel on these...
[14:11] <K1rk> BlueEagle, but if the compiled driver fixes the problem, then you gotta do what you gotta do.
[14:11] <usr13__> K1rk: You are probably correct in thinking it's a driver issue, or an issue with having a mix of gigabit and 10/100, I'm just digging up alternative ideas.
[14:12] <K1rk> usr13__, for testing, I have all 3 of these netbooks plugged into a gigabit Netgear Prosafe switch on my desk.  But I have had this issue on various Cisco switches as well.
[14:12] <BlueEagle> K1rk: Just to assert another assumption I made; Are the three ports on the Cisco router configured identically?
[14:12] <BlueEagle> ...oh. That answered my question then.
[14:12] <K1rk> BlueEagle, since this Netgear switch is just a cheap unmanaged switch, yes.
[14:13] <giga2> I am trying to install kubuntn on an old computer and get error message sis630 smbus not detected no module found anyone have any ideas
[14:13] <K1rk> Part of the reason I did that was to eliminate that possibility.  Since before, I was connected to several different closet switches via wall ports.  This way it's a controlled testing environment @BlueEagle, @usr13__
[14:14] <usr13__> K1rk: I wouldn't rule out a systemic network config problem though.... Sometimes it can effect only certain devices.  Such as with an IP conflict, if there is an IP conflict, the Linux computer will fail and the MS Windows computer will not.
[14:14] <SmashLink> i'm looking for a ptpd tutorial
[14:14] <wooo>  my application is in pending review status...i want that my application will start in terminal...would it be ok if i put terminal =true in extras-myapp.desktop?????
[14:14] <nnn> Hello all can you answer my questions?
[14:14] <wooo> someone pls help its urgent!!
[14:15] <nnn> ??
[14:15] <genii-around> !ask | nnn
[14:15] <K1rk> BlueEagle, refresh my memory... I'm compiling my driver by the instructions. Is this a problem?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1084534/
[14:15] <BlueEagle> !ask | nnn
[14:15] <K1rk> usr13__, I'm familiar with how Ubuntu handles, we've been running it in production on 500 computers in our building for the past 11 months.
[14:15] <nnn> can i use "HUD" on the kde desktop?