[00:14] <vychune> o/
[01:00] <vychune> heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[01:07] <chris4585> pace_t_zulu, I was until today, basically instead of basename which gives you the filename, it will give you the dir up until the filename
[01:07] <chris4585> I didn't know it existed until today
[01:08] <chris4585> chris@RX881:~$ basename Movies.txt
[01:08] <chris4585> Movies.txt
[01:08] <chris4585> chris@RX881:~$ dirname /home/chris/Movies.txt
[01:08] <chris4585> /home/chris
[01:08] <chris4585> simple but powerful..
[01:09] <chris4585> or rather
[01:09] <chris4585> chris@RX881:~$ basename /home/chris/Movies.txt
[01:09] <chris4585> Movies.txt
[01:18] <linuxman410> anyone here
[01:25] <vychune> me
[01:26] <vychune> need some help with sum?
[01:26] <linuxman410> ubuntu 11.04 is junk i cannot get it to go full screen on my 22 inch monitotr even in classic mode
[01:27] <chris4585> linuxman410, is there an auto button?
[01:27] <linuxman410> on monitor
[01:28] <vychune> how old is the monitor
[01:28] <linuxman410> monitor is a couple of years old about 2
[01:29] <linuxman410> is chakra a rolling release
[01:29] <vychune> tryed the auto adjust?
[01:29] <linuxman410> tried the auto ajust nothing
[01:29] <chris4585> linuxman410, yes
[01:29] <vychune> what model?
[01:30] <chris4585> linuxman410, have you tried rebooting with 11.04?
[01:30] <linuxman410> it is a gateway 22 in monitor
[01:30] <vychune> drivers?
[01:30] <linuxman410>  i have rebooted a bunch of times only shows up on right half of screen
[01:31] <linuxman410> 10.10 worked just fine same monitor
[01:32] <vychune> login screen does the same thing/
[01:32] <vychune> ?
[01:32] <linuxman410> yes
[01:33] <chris4585> linuxman410, does the video card have multiple outputs and one plugged in possibly?
[01:33] <chris4585> linuxman410, what happens if you try ctrl+al+f2 ?
[01:33] <chris4585> alt*
[01:34] <linuxman410> nothing
[01:35] <chris4585> strange..
[01:35] <vychune> mooooooooooooo
[01:35] <chris4585> linuxman410, perhaps you should wait until the final is released to try again?
[01:35] <linuxman410> chris4585 is chakra secure enough to pay bills as long as it is updated
[01:35] <vychune> does the live cd do the same?
[01:35] <linuxman410> vychune yes
[01:35] <vychune> damn
[01:36] <vychune> u may need the drivers this time
[01:36] <vychune> brb
[01:37] <chris4585> linuxman410, I would say so, but it is alpha - beta
[01:39] <linuxman410> chris4585 either that or i am going to try fedora 15 and see what it does
[01:41] <linuxman410> chris4585 i need to find a rolling release instead of one i have to reinstall all the time
[01:41] <chris4585> fedora 15 is also beta but it looks nice with gnome 3
[01:41] <chris4585> linuxman410, well arch / chakra is that
[01:42] <linuxman410> i am downloading chakra right now
[01:42] <chris4585> I saw a 28min review earlier today on fedora 15
[01:43] <linuxman410> i have been using fedora since it first came out on and off
[01:44] <linuxman410> chris4585 there are just a bunch of knuckleheads in their irc channel though
[01:46] <linuxman410> they always have something smart to say when u ask a question
[01:49] <chris4585> I wouldn't know I try to figure things out my own way.. and don't bother asking in support channels
[01:49] <chris4585> usually it leads no where
[01:56] <linuxman410> chris4585 fedora 15 does not work either
[01:56] <linuxman410> so next
[01:57] <linuxman410> chakra is next
[01:59] <chris4585> maybe its something to do with your drivers?
[01:59] <chris4585> what video card do you have?
[02:00] <linuxman410> intel 845 built in
[02:01] <linuxman410> i booted up tried to change resolution it will not let me
[02:02] <vychune_unclelou> then it is the drivers and i said that long ago
[02:03] <linuxman410> but it works fine with 10.10\
[02:04] <vychune> the drivers may have been removed
[02:05] <linuxman410> well if ubuntu removed drivers for a video card i will have to find another os
[02:06] <linuxman410> my
[02:06] <linuxman410> video card
[02:07] <linuxman410> cause i cannot afford new hardware
[02:08] <linuxman410> ubuntu does not have to act like windows release a upgrade and have to buy a new computer
[02:08] <vychune> just install it
[02:08] <vychune> and i may be worng
[02:08] <linuxman410> vychune it did not find no restricted drivers
[02:12] <vychune> oh yeah forgot about that daig
[02:12] <chris4585> linuxman410, I would wait and see the final released to make final judgments
[02:12] <vychune> *diag
[02:13] <linuxman410> well if it does not support it with final release then i change oses
[02:15] <linuxman410> see everyone is suping up linux so it does not run on old hardware no more even lubuntu is going to unity
[02:16] <linuxman410> debian 6 did not go to unity they stayed regular gnome
[02:17] <linuxman410> debian 6 still supports old hardware
[02:21] <linuxman410> even freegeek in portland is still with ubuntu 8.04 according to their website
[02:24] <vychune> smh
[02:30] <chris4585> linuxman410, wha? lubuntu going to unity?
[02:33] <linuxman410> yes i sam subsribed to their email and lubuntu is going to unity
[02:37] <chris4585> well before you put it down have you tried unity 2d?
[02:37] <chris4585> it uses qt which might work kind of well on older computers
[02:38] <linuxman410> chris4585 i tried unity 2d same thing half a screen cannot change resolution
[02:39] <chris4585> linuxman410, this appears to be a driver issue, unity 2d wouldn't have a thing to do with that though
[02:40] <linuxman410> chris4585 maybe it is a glitch in the beta
[02:40] <chris4585> maybe
[02:40] <chris4585> I've been running it for the past ~3months
[02:48] <chris4585> fedora does some things strangely.. why is the iso file named .diso ?
[02:52] <chris4585> whoo torrents are awesome, downloading the fedora iso in less than 5mins
[03:10] <vychune> LOL
[03:14] <chris4585> I wont lie, I'm a bit over surprised and shocked by how well fedora 15 is..
[03:14] <vychune> lol brb
[05:00] <chris4585lappy> I'm loving gnome3, and starting to think ubuntu made the wrong decision..
[05:20] <Juzzy> welcome to ubuntu
[05:20] <Juzzy> ;/
[05:20] <Juzzy> I'm so not impressed with ubuntu desktop
[05:39] <chris4585lappy> Juzzy, unity is alright but doesn't compare to gnome3
[11:47] <wrst> chris4585: I agree what distro are you using gnome 3 on?
[12:04] <cyberanger> wrst: your up early, bad night?
[13:03] <wrst> no cyberanger just the usual
[13:03] <wrst> how are you doing cyberanger?
[13:03] <cyberanger> reasonable
[13:04] <cyberanger> some things have simplified, some things are complicated
[13:04] <cyberanger> it's just a funny week
[13:04] <wrst> such seems to be the course of life :)
[13:05] <cyberanger> indeed
[14:18] <vychune> o/
[14:29] <Xpistos> Hey vychune
[14:29] <vychune> long time no see dude
[14:29] <Xpistos> seriously
[14:29] <Xpistos> wrst where be you
[14:29] <Xpistos> pace_t_zulu
[14:30] <Xpistos> need some cron love over her dudes
[14:30] <vychune> lol
[14:30] <Xpistos> vychune: what you got going on today brutha
[14:30] <wrst> hey pace_t_zulu
[14:30] <vychune> linuxmanyou awake?
[14:30] <wrst> i mean hey Xpistos :)
[14:30] <Xpistos> lol
[14:30] <vychune> sit around doing nothing
[14:30] <Xpistos> is that a Greek Slur?
[14:30] <Xpistos> !
[14:31] <Xpistos> ?
[14:31] <wrst> not intentional :)
[14:31] <vychune> my job left for jackso, TN im all alone
[14:31] <Xpistos> Is that good or not good?
[14:31] <vychune> not good
[14:32] <vychune> im broke that the Govt
[14:32] <vychune> *broker
[14:33] <Xpistos> I feel ya
[14:33] <Xpistos> I am broke as a joke
[14:33] <Xpistos> I am so Poo, I can't afford the R
[14:33] <Xpistos> I am so broke, I can't afford to pay attention
[14:34] <cyberanger> Xpistos: cron you say
[14:34] <Xpistos> I am looking at the dog eat everymorning and thinking two things: Man that Alpo looks good OR Doggie Kabobs?
[14:34] <Xpistos> cyberanger:
[14:34] <vychune> ROTFLLOL
[14:36] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: i probably can't be available till this afternoon... but i'll be happy to help then
[14:37] <Xpistos> pace_t_zulu: Oh well, I have church crap and teenage son in school crap to do then, but we will hook up later
[14:38] <Xpistos> cyberanger: I ask #linux about cron stuff and i get "man cron" doesn't quite help me here
[14:39] <vychune> lol
[14:39] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: maybe i can help quickly... what are you trying to do?
[14:41] <pace_t_zulu> ...
[14:43] <pace_t_zulu> well i have to go... catch y'all later
[14:45] <Xpistos> Damn my work sched!
[14:49] <wrst> Xpistos: what are you trying to do ?
[14:54] <cyberanger> Xpistos: sounds about right
[14:54] <cyberanger> what's the details here
[14:56] <Xpistos> ok
[14:57] <Xpistos> I have to set an email backup to run at 1 am every morning
[14:57] <Xpistos> the catch is, I can't test it because it will shut down the email server
[14:57] <Xpistos> The command is a preset script
[14:57] <Xpistos> what I need to do is tell the cron to run the script everday
[14:58] <Xpistos> I tried crontab -e
[14:58] <Xpistos> and added the script, but
[14:58] <Xpistos> no love
[14:58] <Xpistos> and I don't know where to find it now?
[14:58] <Xpistos> Thank You!
[14:58]  * Xpistos bows and then puts the business end of his glock in his mouth
[14:59] <Xpistos> I am a WEEE bit frustrated with this
[14:59] <Xpistos> Which you all know is so out of character for me
[14:59] <cyberanger> Xpistos: don't do that, that's a waste of a perfectly good bullet
[14:59] <cyberanger> wait, that didn't come out right
[15:00] <Xpistos> ouch
[15:00] <cyberanger> what did you put into crontab when you did that
[15:01] <Xpistos> let's see
[15:01] <Xpistos> 0 1 * * * root /usr/src/ oZimbraBackup_1.0.1/oZimbraBackup.sh
[15:03] <cyberanger> hrm
[15:04] <cyberanger> something seems off on that, let me compare mine
[15:06] <Xpistos> and I do crontab -e to add it
[15:07] <cyberanger> seems I may have spotted the issue,
[15:07] <cyberanger> sudo crontab -e to edit it
[15:08] <cyberanger> include adding additional jobs
[15:08] <cyberanger> why the space here "/usr/src/ oZimbraBackup_1.0.1/oZimbraBackup.sh"
[15:08] <Xpistos> well as much as you are going to hate this it is in the user account. Not my decision and I have bitched about ti before
[15:08] <Xpistos> no space
[15:09] <Xpistos> /usr/src/oZimbraBackup_1.0.1/oZimbraBackup.sh
[15:09] <cyberanger> so "0 1 * * * root /usr/src/ oZimbraBackup_1.0.1/oZimbraBackup.sh" was a typo?
[15:10] <cyberanger> the cronjob is? or the backup?
[15:22] <Xpistos> yues
[15:22] <Xpistos> no space in the cronjob
[15:23] <cyberanger> Xpistos: is that the line nano shows with sudo crontab -e?
[15:24] <cyberanger> if so, I think I see the issue
[15:24] <Xpistos> let me check
[15:27] <vychune> o/
[15:27] <cyberanger> hey vychune
[15:28] <cyberanger> does your arm ever get tired? :-)
[15:28] <vychune> of doing what?
[15:29] <Xpistos> cyberanger: nano doesn't show anything
[15:30] <Xpistos> I don't see the job anywhere and not sure where to look
[15:30] <Xpistos> This is also a Centos Based server
[15:30] <vychune> member:identifier:xpistos still working on cron huh?
[15:30] <Xpistos> yep
[15:31] <cyberanger> Xpistos: sudo crontab -e shows nothing?
[15:31] <Xpistos> yep
[15:32] <Xpistos> I added it by typing cronjob -e and a vi editor openend , which I can't stand
[15:37] <wrst> Xpistos: nano is for little girls ;)
[15:37]  * wrst uses nano :)
[15:37] <Xpistos> cyberanger: should I add it that way?
[15:37] <cyberanger> yes
[15:37] <Xpistos> or should I be in /etc/cron.daily and at it there
[15:37] <cyberanger> wrst: vi is a pain though
[15:37] <Xpistos> or add it there
[15:38] <cyberanger> Xpistos: crontab it
[15:38] <Xpistos> wrst: So I am a little girl
[15:38] <wrst> i agree cyberanger, i don't understand the vi love?
[15:38] <Xpistos> how do I edit it with nano?
[15:38] <Xpistos> crontab -e opens vi
[15:38] <cyberanger> Xpistos: sudo crontab -e
[15:38] <cyberanger> oh, your editor isn't, right
[15:39] <Xpistos> rihgt
[15:39] <cyberanger> check that nano is an option first
[15:39] <Xpistos> how
[15:39] <Xpistos> oh it is
[15:39] <cyberanger> ok
[15:40]  * Xpistos starts singing a Justin Bieber song in the corner ...
[15:40] <Xpistos> "baby, baby, baby"
[15:41] <cyberanger> Xpistos: type 'which nano' if you would
[15:41] <Xpistos> /user/bin/nano
[15:41] <cyberanger> and please don't do that again, each time Bieber sings, a kitten is mauled to death
[15:42]  * Xpistos hates cats
[15:42] <Xpistos> I feel a chorus of Never Say Never coming up
[15:42] <cyberanger> this just makes sure we can do this, we'll come back to adding it long term
[15:43] <cyberanger> 'EDITOR=/user/bin/nano sudo crontab -e'
[15:43] <vychune> what is so wrong with justin bieber?
[15:44] <Xpistos> lol
[15:45] <Xpistos> "user"
[15:45] <Xpistos> okay I see it now
[15:45] <cyberanger> vychune: should I list alphabetically or chronalogicly
[15:46] <vychune> whatever works for you
[15:47] <cyberanger> vychune: Usher as a role model would be a good start
[15:47] <Xpistos> Okay I am looknig at it in cron
[15:47] <vychune> whats wrong with that?
[15:47] <Xpistos> # Email backup to windows server
[15:47] <Xpistos> 0 1 * * * root /usr/src/ oZimbraBackup_1.0.1/oZimbraBackup.sh -msg-diff > /dev/null 2>&1
[15:48] <vychune> as long as you dont look behind the scenes
[15:48] <Xpistos> "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain"
[15:48] <vychune> pointing and picking the women he wants
[15:52] <Xpistos> cyberanger: oh, and for some reason my "A" record was point to the wrong place at godaddy that is why my ssh wasn't working
[15:53] <Xpistos> so a few more days
[15:54] <cyberanger> Xpistos: ah
[15:54] <cyberanger> I'm seeing a space again
[15:55] <cyberanger> that's part of it
[15:55] <cyberanger> "0 1 * * * root /usr/src/ oZimbraBackup_1.0.1/oZimbraBackup.sh -msg-diff > /dev/null 2>&1"
[15:55] <Xpistos> damn
[15:55] <Xpistos> I didn't see that
[15:55] <cyberanger> that's what you have?
[15:55] <cyberanger> and remove root
[15:55] <cyberanger> it's implied anyhow
[15:56] <cyberanger> those two should allow it to run
[15:56] <cyberanger> provided permissions are right, and the script itself works
[15:56] <Xpistos> 0 1 * * * /usr/src/oZimbraBackup_1.0.1/oZimbraBackup.sh -msg-diff > /dev/null 2>&1
[15:56] <cyberanger> sudo chmod +x /usr/src/oZimbraBackup_1.0.1/oZimbraBackup.sh
[15:56] <cyberanger> yes
[15:57] <Xpistos> I am checking that right now
[15:58] <cyberanger> actually, in crontab -e, I'd change 0 1 to 0 3
[15:58] <Xpistos> why?
[15:58] <Xpistos> can I change the name of the file?
[15:58] <cyberanger> 1 AM for email seems likely, we've chatted past 1AM before
[15:58] <Xpistos> cause it is saving it as /tmp/crontab.XXXhpDzjV
[15:58] <Xpistos> these are for work not home
[15:59] <Xpistos> so 6pm everyone is gone
[15:59] <cyberanger> ah, then that's good
[15:59] <Xpistos> I would like the file to be called crontab.embackup
[16:00] <cyberanger> don't change that, it's being saved to tmp cause there is a script that follows that takes it an has it applied to the current cron daemon
[16:00] <cyberanger> when you close, that file will vanish shortly
[16:01] <Xpistos> cdit has full permissions
[16:01] <Xpistos> it has full perms
[16:01] <Xpistos> yes I don't see it there
[16:01] <Xpistos> now if I want to edit it. Where can I find it?
[16:02] <Xpistos> and I have two other crontab.XXXX files that do show up
[16:02] <Xpistos> can I delete those
[16:02] <cyberanger> their in /tmp right?
[16:02] <Xpistos> yes
[16:03] <cyberanger> leave them
[16:03] <Xpistos> ok
[16:03] <cyberanger> that directory has a way of managing itself
[16:03] <cyberanger> short of any real problems
[16:22] <vychune> did i get kicked or something
[16:24] <cyberanger> you quit
[16:25] <cyberanger> according to the message I see, perhaps a networking glitch
[16:36] <vychune> mustve stepped on my wire
[16:38] <chris4585> wrst, fedora and it was all beautiful
[16:39] <cyberanger> I keep trying to do that at the library, used to wires, wifi is just so odd
[16:39] <cyberanger> chris4585: and yum?
[16:39] <cyberanger> Xpistos: but you cannot test it, right?
[16:39] <Xpistos> not now
[16:39] <Xpistos> but I will know in the morning
[16:39] <chris4585> cyberanger, I don't know the first thing about yum
[16:40] <Xpistos> I am off tomorrow, but I will check it to make sure cause we need to get this retnetion policy setup
[16:40] <Xpistos> well this one uses apt actually
[16:40] <Xpistos> CentOS with Apt-Get
[16:40] <Xpistos> Clear OS - gateway/firewall
[16:40] <wrst> chris4585: i agree with you about unity
[16:41] <chris4585> unity could be as good as gnome but I think mark has blinders on
[16:41] <cyberanger> Xpistos: perhaps we want to edit it one more then, have output to a file, instead of /dev/null
[16:41] <cyberanger> further proof it's working, and we'll go back once it is
[16:42] <wrst> chris4585: i agree why depart from gnome 3 when it is very good now and will only improve
[16:42] <Xpistos> well the script will shutdown the email server so that can't happen now
[16:42] <wrst> you could put the ubuntu touch on it and have something much better out of the box
[16:42] <chris4585> exactly
[16:42] <wrst> chris4585: i think unity looks dated/old compared to gnome 3
[16:42] <Xpistos> you can add gnome 3 to ubuntu
[16:42] <chris4585> a little bit, its not as dynamic
[16:42] <chris4585> indeed you can but thats not the argument
[16:43] <chris4585> the argument is that ubuntu made the wrong choice
[16:43] <wrst> yes chris4585
[16:43] <wrst> i certainly agree
[16:43] <wrst> chris4585: i love ubuntu but i don't see me using it much with unity
[16:45] <chris4585> yeah, I'm currently using ubuntu / unity on my desktop and wish I had gnome 3 on it, but I'm keeping  unity to see how it turns out by release
[16:45] <chris4585> fedora / gnome3 on my laptop and its so awesome..
[16:47] <wrst> chris4585: i agree i was shocked at how well i liked gnome 3 after hearing all the negatives against it
[16:47] <wrst> there are some work flow things that take some getting used to
[16:47] <wrst> but as they say if you use it for a week
[16:47] <chris4585> the only thing I wish gnome3 had is the global menu and the controls on the panel.. that would make it complete
[16:48] <chris4585> wrst, exactly, at first I hated unity but after using it on my laptop for a week I liked it
[16:48] <wrst> chris4585: i'm not so big of a fan of the global menu especially since i use dual monitors some
[16:48] <chris4585> ah I'd say not then, but I love it
[16:48] <wrst> but i think they could tone down the theme a little to save some space that would be nice
[16:48] <chris4585> wrst, did you edit gnome3 so it has minimize too?
[16:49] <wrst> but over all gnome3 > unity
[16:49] <wrst> chris4585: yes
[16:49] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: why do you need the script to shutdown the email server?
[16:49] <wrst> chris4585: do you have the gnome-tweak-tool installed?
[16:49] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: part of the backup process
[16:49] <chris4585> wrst, no, I don't know fedora well enough..
[16:49] <wrst> just use the pacakge gui and search for it, has some useful settings
[16:50] <cyberanger> Xpistos: I understand it can't be run now, but when it runs tonight, you'll have more data, more proof it did run
[16:50] <cyberanger> when you check it in the morning
[16:50] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: you reckon it's a necessary part? shouldn't the server have some functionality that allows you to export a backup if its running (if it is ill advised to run an ordinary backup with the server running)
[16:50] <chris4585> wrst, I'm surprised its in there, installing
[16:51] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: you can use a dummy cronjob that doesn't shut down the server to test and be sure that you've got your crontab right
[16:51] <wrst> chris4585: i think from the cli it would be # yum install gnome-tweak-tool
[16:51] <wrst> if i remember yum at all
[16:51] <wrst> chris4585: i think that should be standard with gnoem actually, its not 100% ad you have to log out and back in for many changes to take place
[16:51] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: that is correct yum syntax
[16:52] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: to an extent, some daemons are that big a kludge, so it depends on what's actually rused
[16:52] <wrst> thanks pace_t_zulu its been a while after opensuse and fedora can't say i'm fond of the 'rpm' based distros
[16:52] <pace_t_zulu> the gnome tweak tool i believe is not standard in gnome 3 ... it's just a stopgap till they flesh out the control panels
[16:52] <cyberanger> and I did forget about a dummy run, but it won't test the actual script
[16:52] <cyberanger> too
[16:52] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: i think you are correct
[16:53] <pace_t_zulu> i doubt the gnome tweak tool is an official part of gnome
[16:54] <pace_t_zulu> i'm going to have to go afk for a little bit at 11
[16:54] <chris4585> wrst, I agree completely that or gnome improve their settings
[16:54] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: you saw my latest PM?
[16:55] <Xpistos> pace_t_zulu: hit me with one big pappa!
[16:56] <wrst> but chris4585 hurts me to leave ubuntu but i think if i set anything up for people it will probably be kubuntu now
[16:56] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: you're a definite maybe ... ? for the natty party
[16:57] <chris4585> in all seriousness, I don't really try to set people up with ubuntu anymore, it just gives me a headache and I'm tech support until someone dies
[16:58] <wrst> ha ha what do you do chris4585? just fix windows?
[16:58] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: the desire is there, two things got added to that same weekend since we planned it, one was a clerical error
[16:59] <cyberanger> so yes, not confirmed, but extremely high odds
[16:59] <cyberanger> 90%
[16:59] <chris4585> wrst, pretty much
[17:00] <cyberanger> one thing might much it up, and as it currently stands, puts me roughly 20-30 minutes late
[17:00] <wrst> depends on the situation with me chris4585
[17:00] <chris4585> bbiab
[17:00] <wrst> if they are straight up browse the web, chat/IM, email i put ubuntu on their machine
[17:01] <cyberanger> it's a meeting, never leave on time, either early or late, and I'm factoring the usual when I say that
[17:01] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: does that make sense?
[17:02] <Xpistos> How can I setup a dummy cronjob
[17:02] <cyberanger> wrst: I've wound up in a middle ground, lubuntu or crunchbang
[17:04] <cyberanger> Xpistos: we can create another crontab set to go off at 11:30
[17:04] <cyberanger> that'd be the best way
[17:04] <Xpistos> okay well what do I put like touch testfile or something like that
[17:05] <wrst> lubuntu is a possibility, but i think kubuntu is the easiest transition from someone who has been a windows user
[17:09] <Xpistos> 15 11 * * * touch /tmp/testfile
[17:10] <Xpistos> look okay?
[17:11] <cyberanger> it's gotta be 20 11 now
[17:11] <cyberanger> a certain amount of time to kick in
[17:11] <Xpistos> time on server is 11:10
[17:11] <cyberanger> OH, and one blank line at the end
[17:11] <cyberanger> yes, plus at least 5 minutes
[17:12] <Xpistos> okay 6 mins from now
[17:12] <cyberanger> (the commands run on time, but we're adding too close to the time, a update delay of 5 minutes I think)
[17:12] <cyberanger> one blank line at the end
[17:13] <cyberanger> hit enter twice
[17:13] <Xpistos> do I have to have blank lines after each cron command in there or just after the end
[17:13] <cyberanger> for sure, just after
[17:13] <cyberanger> mine is just at the end
[17:13] <Xpistos> you should post a copy of your crontab so I can see
[17:20] <cyberanger> 2 */12 * * * /usr/local/bin/mirrorbuild.sh
[17:21] <cyberanger> that runs 2 minutes after the hour, every 12 houls
[17:21] <cyberanger> I've got others on other servers, happen to have that one close by
[17:28] <Xpistos> mtest file worked
[17:28] <Xpistos> 18 11 * * * touch /tmp/testfile
[17:28] <Xpistos> worked
[17:31] <cyberanger> ok, so as long as your script itself works, that line looked good
[17:38] <Xpistos> good
[17:39] <Xpistos> now I can do this on my own machine at home too
[17:39] <Xpistos> yeah
[17:42] <Xpistos> anybody know how to make an animate graphic
[17:47] <Xpistos> So am i going to be better off with 10.10 than 11.04 or what?>
[18:17] <pace_t_zulu> xpistos rolls through here like a tornado ... and then he's gone
[18:20] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: i think Xpistos needs a personal tech support :)
[18:20] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: he's doing many (seemingly) unrelated things
[18:21] <wrst> yes, adult ADD/ADHD ?
[18:22] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: that really seems to be something common I help with some tech support with a project and once you get people to focus on the issue at hand they then see how simple it is
[18:22] <wrst> not that all that cron stuff is simple but what i help with usually is simple
[18:23] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: cron doesn't need to be hard.... it's a very simple tool.... he never communicated his problem to me
[18:23] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: i have found there are usually simple tutorials out there for most things in cron
[18:52] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: do you know what his issue was?
[18:52] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: was he just trying to verify the job ran?
[18:53] <wrst> i don't know cyberanger was helping him out, he's a little rapid fire for me to help while i'm at work
[18:58] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: i hear that
[18:58] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: what was the nature of xpistos' cron problem?
[20:33] <pace_t_zulu> i guess no one else is around
[20:36] <pace_t_zulu> my voice just echoes off these walls....
[20:38] <wrst> ha ha i'm here :)
[20:43] <pace_t_zulu> yay
[20:43] <pace_t_zulu> i'm not alone
[20:55] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: fair to assume you will not be available to attend a natty release party?
[20:57] <wrst> yes sir if i tried that it would be fair to assume i would need a divorce attorney :)
[20:58] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: not a problem at all
[20:58] <pace_t_zulu> family always comes first
[21:09] <wrst> i am finding that out more than ever
[21:16] <pace_t_zulu> i imagine it becomes considerably more serious when the little ones arrive
[21:17] <wrst> ha ha more for the mother's sanity :)
[21:37] <chris4585> when you move large files around on a hard drive, it shouldn't take long because the physical file itself doesn't move right? just the header changes
[21:40] <pace_t_zulu> chris4585: if you do an 'mv' it should be pretty much instant
[21:41] <pace_t_zulu> a 'cp' of course copies the file
[21:41] <pace_t_zulu> chris4585: what's the problem/
[21:41] <pace_t_zulu> ?
[21:41] <chris4585> there is no problem just trying to understand
[21:42] <chris4585> its not every day I move 20gbs on my hard drive, so it was instant
[21:48] <chris4585> I wish there was a history window for nautilus that showed every file operation, that would be pretty useful
[21:48] <wrst> chris4585: you still in gnome 3?
[21:49] <chris4585> no my desktop will stay unity for a while
[21:50] <chris4585> my laptop is gnome3 though
[21:50] <wrst> i have it on my laptop and love it, on my desktop i love it two but didn't like how it handled dual desktops but got that resovled
[21:50] <chris4585> ah
[21:51] <wrst> yes only had workspaces on one monitor and that is the intended default
[21:56] <pace_t_zulu> chris4585: isn't journaling supposed to provide some of that functionality
[21:56] <pace_t_zulu> ?
[21:56] <pace_t_zulu> i'm not an expert of file systems
[21:56] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: does that fat titlebar not annoy you at least on the laptop?
[22:14] <wrst> no not really but it is a little wide i will readily admit that
[22:14] <wrst> and wide for no reason pace_t_zulu
[22:14] <wrst> i suspect that will be tweaked in the future
[22:21] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: no doubt it will be tweaked... and no doubt native theming support will be added in the future as well
[22:21] <wrst> yes that is a little bit annoying that it can't really be themed right now
[22:21] <wrst> but i think they have done what they have done well so i'm sure the rest will come
[22:22] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: yea, but theming should never have been release critical...
[22:22] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: that is a feature that can easily be added in the future ... there are bigger priorities for the initial rollout
[22:22] <wrst> yes
[22:22] <wrst> and the default look is very very nice
[22:30] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: its a good first release


[20:36] <waterbender> idk it wont install the upgrade my buddy said to use  the terminal but idk how
[20:36] <leptone> beldar, aaah this is only for Intel GPUs got it
[20:36] <Beldar> leptone, I had not answered you fast enough and you said, "Beldar, you still there?"
[20:36] <waterbender> he derps alot
[20:37] <idontgiveafutch> waterbender Ctrl + Alt + T > sudo apt-get update > sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:37] <leptone> how can i see what GPU i have?
[20:37] <idontgiveafutch> waterbender just type this on your keyboard
[20:37] <waterbender> alright thanks and do that for anything i want installed?
[20:38] <idontgiveafutch> leptone glxinfo
[20:38] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, is that a terminal command
[20:38] <idontgiveafutch> waterbender no. Example. If I want to install Firefox I would type > sudo apt-get install firefox
[20:38] <Beldar> leptone, Is this just a whim, are you really having any problems, is this just trying to improve a system working fine already?
[20:38] <Guest88658> Any suggestions?  I can say that the audio (mic and headphone jacks) work fine
[20:39] <idontgiveafutch> leptone So, search for "Details"
[20:39] <leptone> beldar, no there is really a problem however pasting in the text from the article seemd to solve it
[20:39] <leptone> but id like to confirm that i have the correct gpu now
[20:39] <OerHeks> leptone, lscpu
[20:40] <Beldar> leptone, Hmm, no problem that you fixed. ;)
[20:40] <OerHeks> oh GPU , not CPU > lspci | grep -i VGA
[20:40] <idontgiveafutch> waterbender Or you can open Ubuntu Software Center and search for a lot of software. Just clicking on "Install"
[20:41] <leptone> beldar, i have a very difficult time understanding the ideas you are attempting to communicate. there was a problem. i followed the article. it is fixed. you got me worried that i didnt have an intel gpu now i want to check. if i have an intel gpu ill consider the problem resolved. if not i will remove the text i added and search for a new solution
[20:42] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, ok im in details
[20:42] <idontgiveafutch> leptone what's your problem?
[20:42] <leptone> I JUST WANT TO DETERMINE IF MY GPU IS INTEL OR NOT
[20:42] <idontgiveafutch> leptone just go for last option. There are a few information about CPU and your GPU
[20:42] <leptone> thats i
[20:42] <leptone> it
[20:42] <FloodBot1> leptone: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:43] <Beldar> leptone, This is what you said when I asked if you had a problem. " beldar, no there is really a problem" You are not realizing what you are saying, if you are confused on responses you might read what you post. ;)
[20:43] <idontgiveafutch> leptone Do you found?
[20:43] <leptone> very possible
[20:44] <idontgiveafutch> leptone Just take a screenshot and post here
[20:45] <leptone> ok so when i look in details>graphics i see "Driver GeForce GT 330M/PCIe/SSE2" whihc is nvidia right? but when i do the command that OerHeks gave me, lscpu, i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557919/
[20:45] <leptone> Vendor ID:             GenuineIntel
[20:46] <leptone> so i ask the whole channel. what kind of gpu do i have?
[20:47] <idontgiveafutch> leptone Two. An intel HD graphics and a dedicated GPU Nvidia?
[20:47] <idontgiveafutch> !
[20:47] <Guest16899> Hello
[20:47] <Guest88658> Anyone wanna see the thing that is bothering me?
[20:47] <leptone> ok thx you idontgiveafutch
[20:48] <leptone> what does that mean for this article http://linuxg.net/fix-slow-graphics-performance-on-ubuntu-13-04-intel-gpu/
[20:48] <Guest16899> i booted ubuntu over network via pxe but i have no internet
[20:48] <Guest88658> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557926/
[20:48] <idontgiveafutch> leptone plz, type this and post on pastebin > sudo /sbin/lsmod | grep nvidia
[20:48] <Guest16899> can you help me please?
[20:48] <MonkeyDust_> leptone  does this line help      cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep GPU
[20:48] <idontgiveafutch> leptone you're welcome
[20:49] <Guest16899> for example ariva rescue cd has internet
[20:49] <Guest88658> Guest16899: That is a question that I no longer ask
[20:49] <leptone> MonkeyDust_, idk what would i do with that?
[20:49] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557940/
[20:49] <idontgiveafutch> leptone okay. Your Nividia card is installed.
[20:49] <Guest16899> with live cd i have internet but over network not
[20:49] <MonkeyDust_> leptone  you want to know your GPU? use that line to find out, in a terminal
[20:50] <Guest16899> Guest88658, why not?
[20:50] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, i am trying to do this http://linuxg.net/fix-slow-graphics-performance-on-ubuntu-13-04-intel-gpu/
[20:50] <MonkeyDust_> leptone  open a terminal and paste this line     cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep GPU
[20:51] <Guest88658> Guest16899: Not knowing the question, it is impossible to know whether or not one can help
[20:51] <idontgiveafutch> leptone I don't recommend
[20:51] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, this is what i have now http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557951/
[20:51] <Guest16899> Ubuntu PXE, I have no Internet
[20:51] <q0> apt-get install gets stuck at Saucy /universe
[20:51] <q0> Waiting for headers...
[20:51] <idontgiveafutch> leptone Is your mac too slow?
[20:51] <q0> Even if i change the server still the same ?
[20:51] <Guest16899> please help
[20:52] <q0> please help
[20:52] <leptone> MonkeyDust_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6557955/
[20:52] <Guest88658> Guest16899: remind me the question you need help with
[20:52] <q0> oh apparently it was just a huge delay, it continues....
[20:52] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, yes it was super laggy after upgrading to 13.04
[20:53] <waterbender> idontgiveafutch it says E:the update takes no arguments
[20:53] <q0> Why would it take 5 minutes to get a header from a server with <50ms to me ?
[20:53] <leptone> should i remove that piece from xorg.conf and un comment the original section?
[20:53] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, ^
[20:53] <Guest16899> Guest88658, i started ubuntu over network with PXE Boot but then i have no internet why?
[20:53] <Guest88658> Guest16899: I would like to help, but I doubt I have any answers
[20:53] <Guest16899> q0, maybe firewall
[20:54] <Guest88658> Guest16899: Guest16899: Prior to PXE, did you have network?
[20:54] <idontgiveafutch> leptone you can try... But I don't recommend. Try this: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-ringtail-nvidia.html
[20:55] <Guest16899> Guest88658, i do nor know firefox can not show me website
[20:55] <leptone> should i just delete the xorg.conf file? and start over
[20:55] <idontgiveafutch> waterbend Can you take a screenshot? Use imgur.com plz
[20:55] <idontgiveafutch> leptone NO.
[20:55] <leptone> ok should i remove the piece i added and uncomment the piece i commented
[20:55] <Guest16899> Guest88658, other distros can go internet
[20:55] <Guest88658> Guest16899: I need help, too, with a USB hub and memory card reader thing that doesn't seem to function correctly... well mic and heaphone works, though usb and memory card reader doesn't
[20:55] <waterbender> nope
[20:56] <idontgiveafutch> leptone ok. If it works, tell me! hehehe
[20:56] <Guest16899> and on live cd ubuntu can too but not over PXE
[20:56] <leptone> wht do u mean works?
[20:56] <Guest88658> Guest16899: Are you doing multiple boots?
[20:56] <Guest16899> yes
[20:56] <leptone> like i thought you said that i shouldnt follow that article bc i have an nvidia card
[20:56] <idontgiveafutch> leptone If you don't get a black screen when you reinitialize.
[20:56] <leptone> so should i undo what i did
[20:57] <idontgiveafutch> leptone ok. Try this!
[20:57] <auronandace> Guest88658 + Guest16899: perhaps you should change your nick's to make it easier for people to follow
[20:57] <idontgiveafutch> waterbender okay... I'm trying help you...
[20:58] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, try what. what i just said. or do u have an idea?
[21:00] <stevebelgium> I am trying to understand why I get sound through the headphone, but that the usb ports of the same item doesn't work
[21:00] <dimadima_> Quick question to see if anyone has ever had this problem. I'm trying to install ubuntu on my new laptop, and am booting to a USB drive that has ubuntu on it. First time I tried booting, I just got a black screen. Then I added nomodeset to the boot options, and instead of a black screen, I got 3 (columns) identical screens on like the top 10% of my screen. The text was way too small to read, so I didn't know what to do. I tried othe
[21:00] <dimadima_> any thoughts?
[21:01] <stevebelgium> dimadima_:My thoughts are that I'm lost
[21:01] <dimadima_> as in, I wasn't very clear? I can try again in that case
[21:01] <stevebelgium> dimadima_: J";
[21:01] <stevebelgium> m
[21:02] <stevebelgium> dimadima_: I'm the poster child of "newbie"
[21:02] <dimadima_> haha, gotchya
[21:02] <dimadima_> I've installed linux before, and it's becoming super frustrating
[21:02] <dimadima_> need some tables to flip
[21:03] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, so i just reverted the xorg.conf file back to how it was before i change it rebooted and my system is really slow again
[21:04] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, so i just reverted the xorg.conf file back to how it was before i change it rebooted and my system is really slow/laggy again
[21:05] <stevebelgium> dimadima_: I have a media center with usb ports, memory card slots and a mic/headphone set.  I connected the connector from the unit to the JAUDIO thing on the mother board, the two USB wires to JUSB1 and JUSB2 and the SATA wires to two SATA ports on the mother board.  Only the audio functions
[21:06] <waterbender> thanks idontgiveafutch
[21:07] <idontgiveafutch> leptone hahaha I say it. I don't recommend make it. Just try this: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-ringtail-nvidia.html
[21:09] <Monier> Could someone help me with the ubuntu terminal? I'm trying to set up a Starbound server using this: http://goo.gl/SFvfnP guide. But I'm currently stuck at the type ./update_starbound.sh as it gives me an error that it can not find the a directory. http://imgur.com/pT1BMzD
[21:10] <CarlFK> what is the sudo shutdown like thing to hybernate?
[21:10] <Monier> of course in the i removed my actual account details in the screenshot, but they are there in the actual file
[21:10] <CarlFK> suspend isn't.. it keeps waking up 10 seconds later
[21:10] <Monier> in the image*
[21:10] <stevebelgium> A new development ... the SD RAM card reader works, but USB is still not functional
[21:12] <neur95> ciao ragazzi
[21:12] <stevebelgium> neur95: ciao
[21:12] <stevebelgium> come va?
[21:13] <neur95> non è che qualche guru di linux mi può dare una mano ?
[21:13] <Pici> !it | neur95
[21:13] <neur95> sorry
[21:13] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, ok so basically just install the latest nvidia driver from the ubuntu software center?
[21:14] <neur95> where is some "linux-guru" that could help me ?
[21:15] <Ice_Strike> How to change ubuntu server ip
[21:16] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, so we are just trying a differnt driver?
[21:16] <stevebelgium> idontgiveafutch: Any ideas on my problem?  I have three connectors on the mother board (MS-7502) for JUSB.  I disconnected the two things that were on JUSB1 and JUSB2 and connected the two wires from my new thing on the same connectors (JUSB1 and JUSB2)
[21:17] <stevebelgium> Is there a command line thing that will show what the system thinks about the media center?
[21:17] <artrafael> #teamxbmc
[21:18] <leptone> 'thinks'?
[21:19] <mustmodify> I am missing /lib/init but a script is expecting it ( specifically /lib/init/vars.sh ) .. my impression is that I can get that by installing rcs... but that seems like a really old version of git. Is it a typical dependency?
[21:19] <stevebelgium> Can anyone explain to me this ... http://paste.ubuntu.com/6558076/
[21:19] <cripto> stevebelgium: what do you want to know
[21:20] <cripto> its a list of usb devices connected to the bus and who wrote the driver
[21:20] <k1l> stevebelgium: that is the usb-hub-ports and the hardware that is connected there
[21:21] <Hassen> hello
[21:22] <Hassen> lately once i start my PC,ubuntu gets a startup error: "display devices could not be captured" repeatitively at every startup
[21:22] <Hassen> fortunately i have win7 in dual boot so i coumd join here to ask
[21:22] <idontgiveafutch> stevebelgium what's exactly your problem?
[21:22] <Hassen> any help
[21:22] <stevebelgium> cripto: I have an internal thing that has 8 USB ports, a SD memory card reader and headphone and mic jacks.  It has SATA and  other things that I don't need.  I listen to music through the headphone jack. I put the microSD card in an adaptor in the SD card reader and they both work, but the USB ports don't seem to recognize or access the various USB things I put in the USB ports
[21:23] <idontgiveafutch> leptone your graphic card is installed?
[21:23] <Hassen> *so i could*
[21:23] <MonkeyDust_> Hassen  and does the boot sequence does not continue?
[21:24] <Hassen> MonkeyDust_, it continues in those low-graphic-mode repeatitive menus,then finally ends up in black terminal screen where nothing can be inputed correctly
[21:25] <stevebelgium> idontgiveafutch: On the back of the computer, there are 6 usb ports.  They are against the wall, so ok for things that I don't change or move, but not for things like USB flash drives.  I have installed physically the hub and the wires that seem to be necessary, but USB doesn't make available the contents to the USB drives.
[21:25] <idontgiveafutch> Hassen What do you installed recently?
[21:25] <leptone> idontgiveafutch, i switched to the driver they used in the article the one with '313' and the system is still very slow
[21:25] <stevebelgium> I want to use the 8 USB ports on the front but don't think they are available
[21:27] <Hassen> idontgiveafutch, i can't remember exactly,but i'm sure that i didn't install any weird stuff at the last working session,also many free softwares in the software center could not be installed like VLC/Webcamstudio, those weird things happened in the last working session.
[21:27] <stevebelgium> idontgiveafutch: I don't understand command line, but want to learn ... and can't understand what is working or not and how to get it to work
[21:28] <stevebelgium> idontgiveafutch: I can type command line things if someone tells me to, and get information that helps the people who help understand my problem and find the solution to the problem
[21:30] <stevebelgium> idontgiveafutch: After lsusb, I can type what else to figure out what is not working and why?
[21:35] <arm1e> has anyone managed to get ios 7 devices working?
[21:37] <arm1e> libmobiledevice were working on it back in August but no firther news of when 1.1.7 is due out
[21:37] <arm1e> *further
[21:38] <stevebelgium> arm1e: I'd like to have an IOS7 device
[21:38] <stevebelgium> You've got one to give me?
[21:38] <stevebelgium> ;)
[21:38] <MonkeyDust_> stevebelgium  it has to be plugged into USB
[21:39] <arm1e> stevebelgium: no point if it cant connect to pc! :)
[21:40] <stevebelgium> MonkeyDust_: Well; I plugged the two wires that said "USB" on them to the JUSB ports of the mother board.  I have a USB flash drive in one USB port
[21:42] <stevebelgium> MonkeyDust_: And audio works as does the SDHC card reader on the unit
[21:42] <killajk2201> does anybody use backtrack
[21:42] <stevebelgium> So SOME things work, but USB doesn't.  I need to diagnose the problem so I can fix it
[21:43] <maujhsn> Can anyone tell me if a 32GB usb flash drive is suitable for a full ubuntu- 13.10  new installation?
[21:43] <k1l> killajk2201: 1st. backtrack is deprecated, 2nd both are not supported here
[21:43] <k1l> !kali | killajk2201
[21:44] <OerHeks> maujhsn, minimal is 5gb so yes
[21:45] <mustmodify> I am missing /lib/init but a script is expecting it ( specifically /lib/init/vars.sh ) .. my impression is that I can get that by installing rcs... but that seems like a really old version of git. Is it a typical dependency?
[21:45] <mustmodify> or alternately, please let me know whether you have a /lib/init directory
[21:48] <OerHeks> mustmodify,  /lib/init/vars.sh does exist on my system
[21:48] <glitsj16> mustmodify: /lib/init/vars.sh is part of the 'initscripts' package .. sudo dpkg -S /lib/init/vars.sh tells me that
[21:49] <mustmodify> glitsj16: wow ok I had no idea you could reverse-lookup things that way.
[21:49] <glitsj16> mustmodify: yes, very handy command
[21:52] <hatchetjack> hey
[21:53] <hatchetjack> ubuntu 13.10 and I cannot kill mysqld
[21:53] <hatchetjack> maybe something with systemd?
[21:53] <hatchetjack> I dunno
[21:53] <hatchetjack> what the heck?
[21:53] <k1l> i bet its not systemd
[21:55] <hatchetjack> k1l: I'm listening
[21:56] <k1l> hatchetjack: give more details and error messages. just with guessing its quite hard to find the reason
[21:57] <hatchetjack> k1l: well if I find the pids for mysql and I kill -9 mysql just spawns back with a new pid
[21:58] <jfreak53> @hatchetjack kill the daemon
[21:58] <jfreak53> hatchetjack kill the daemon
[21:58] <MonkeyDust_> hatchetjack  and killall ?
[21:58] <stevebelgium> MonkeyDust_: What needs to be plugged into USB?  I have a flash drive in one of the USB ports on the thing.  The thing is connected via two wires that say (USB) on them to the JUSB connectors of the mother board
[21:59] <hatchetjack> yeah tried killall too
[21:59] <MonkeyDust_> stevebelgium  i have no clue, sorry
[22:00] <glitsj16> hatchetjack: have you tried stopping it yet? what does 'sudo service mysql stop' do?
[22:00] <stevebelgium> You do understand that I'm trying to get it right
[22:01] <hatchetjack> glitsj16: it laughs at me
[22:01] <MonkeyDust_> stevebelgium  i understand that your usb ports don't work, but i have no clue what could be wrong
[22:02] <stevebelgium> Thx anyway
[22:02] <toss2> can someone please look at this http://pastebin.com/UGDb8qVJ
[22:02] <toss2> I am trying to stop mysql server from ubuntu and this comes
[22:02] <hatchetjack> thing is all I did was add federated support
[22:03] <hatchetjack> and then I could not log in with credentials
[22:03] <Pici> toss2: Did you try doing what it said?
[22:03] <MonkeyDust_> toss2  did you try    service mysql stop
[22:03] <k1l> toss2: the error message explains itself
[22:04] <toss2> yesh
[22:04] <toss2> its sas no such command
[22:04] <toss2> root@wordpress:~# root@wordpress:~# service mysql stop
[22:04] <toss2> root@wordpress:~#: command not found
[22:04] <glitsj16> hatchetjack: so i take it 'sudo service mysql status' is laughing as well ?
[22:04] <Pici> toss2: What does cat /etc/issue say?
[22:05] <toss2> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[22:06] <Pici> toss2: What about   echo $PATH
[22:06] <MonkeyDust_> toss2  in a terminal, type    man 8 stop       is it useful?
[22:07] <toss2> ahh I just need to stop mysql I have a lot of work to do :((
[22:07] <pvl1> is there a really simple DM. or can i make my DM not start on boot
[22:07] <toss2> ok.. thanks anyway
[22:07] <quadHelix> toss2:  you tried `sudo service mysql stop`?
[22:07] <toss2> echo $PATH
[22:08] <maujhsn> OerHeks By installing ubuntu rather than just trying it on the USB ,what the difference if your still using it from an (USB)external device?
[22:10] <rantic> Hi everyone, could anyone help me to understand why after installing the proprietary Nvidia driver on Ubuntu it breaks the boot process and makes it ugly?
[22:10] <toss2> mysql is down omg sorry all
[22:10] <toss2> and thanks
[22:11] <pvl1> rantic: are you getting errors
[22:11] <rantic> pvl1: No
[22:12] <pvl1> rantic: so it works! now you probably need to config ur xorg
[22:12] <rantic> pvl1: Every distribution I've ever used (and now Ubuntu) has this happen. Everything technically works but the boot splash is gone and everything is ugly.
[22:12] <godzi> Can anyone help with upgrading from 9.04
[22:13] <rantic> pvl1: I'm sure it's just a configuration issue on my part which I'm too much of a newbie to understand, I just wanted to know if anyone knew _why_ it happened.
[22:13] <pvl1> rantic: boot splash has nothing to do with nvidia driver... to my knowledge
[22:13] <godzi> When I try to go from 9.04 to 9.10 is says there is a network error or something
[22:14] <rantic> pvl1: Boot splash probably isn't the correct term ... everything after that all the way up to the display manager
[22:14] <MonkeyDust_> !eolupgrade | godzi
[22:14] <pvl1> rantic: the windows driver just pools the screen to configure right. linux wants YOU to do it
[22:14] <pvl1> rantic: the DM is what starts Xorg
[22:14] <maujhsn> pvli In the ubuntu-10.04 distro this problem did not occur when NVIDIA drivers were installed...What has happened over a a three year period?
[22:15] <HereticLocke> Hello
[22:15] <glitsj16> rantic: there's a few things you can try to make it less ugly .. what version of ubuntu are you on?
[22:15] <HereticLocke> Can someone please confirm something for me?
[22:15] <rantic> glitsj16: 13.10, I believe I've found an article to fix it. I just came here out of pure curiosity to understand why.
[22:15] <k1l> HereticLocke: depends
[22:15] <ses1984> hi, i'm having an issue trying to add an nvidia graphics card to my system. it worked fine until i tried to enable the proprietary driver, now i can't get back to a gui
[22:15] <maujhsn> OerHeks  By installing ubuntu rather than just trying it on the USB ,what the difference if your still using it from an (USB)external device?
[22:16] <HereticLocke> k1l: I agree. Are you subscribed to the Ubuntu Voice mailing list?
[22:16] <MonkeyDust_> HereticLocke  ask your question and wait
[22:16] <ses1984> when i boot i get a message about being in low graphics mode. if i try to stay in low graphics mode for the session, it warns me about restarting X or something like that, then X closes but never comes back
[22:16] <rantic> maujhsn: If you use Ubuntu off a USB device, it doesn't actually affect your computer. Your hard drive will remain untouched.
[22:16] <k1l> HereticLocke: just state a detailed question. no need for 30minutes foreplay :)
[22:16] <ses1984> if i try to reconfigure graphics, i can hit ok then i get dumped back to the same dialog
[22:16] <HereticLocke> :)
[22:17] <HereticLocke> MonkeyDust_,:I'm trying  to find out who won the Ubuntu Voice 'Goodie Bag' or whatever?
[22:17] <maujhsn> rantic Yes this seems to be true!
[22:19] <pvl1> rantic: i would try #linux
[22:19] <maujhsn> rantic But GUI functionality is suspect with the so called improvements either made by Ubuntu, or NVIDIA!
[22:20] <Guest38385> NVIDIA is finally putting some more effort into drivers which is cool
[22:21] <pvl1> maujhsn: Guest38385 rantic the nvidia in the repo im almost positive is not the official nvidia driver
[22:21] <HereticLocke> No one?
[22:21] <glitsj16> rantic: i think it is because of conflicting resolution settings between nvidia and plymouth (the boot screen) .. FYI, many scripts on the net to fix it use hwinfo to get framebuffer resolution, but that is no longer in 13.10 .. you can get the same info by getting into a grub prompt at boot and using the native vbeinfo command
[22:22] <toss2> how can I search for a filename?
[22:22] <Guest38385> I read on the web they are going into more development with Linux
[22:22] <maujhsn> rantic, pvli, when I say GUI functionality I am specifically referring to the the nautilus desktop!
[22:22] <rantic> Guest38385: You can thank Linux and his middle finger.
[22:22] <rantic> Linus*
[22:22] <k1l> HereticLocke: i dont know of that, but this is a more technical support channel. maybe you are better off in #ubuntu-offtopic or if that project got another own channel
[22:22] <maujhsn> pvli I did not know that!
[22:23] <toss2> ah ok thanks but
[22:23] <toss2> how to use vi to edit file
[22:23] <Guest38385> When using grub customiser do I have to install the changes to the MBR for them to take effect?
[22:23] <HereticLocke> k1l: No it doesn't but offtopic is a good idea I didn't think of. Thanks!
[22:23] <toss2> after I run vi how to make to write in file
[22:23] <toss2> was alt+ z or?
[22:23] <rantic> pvl1: What do you mean not the official driver? How do they produce their own version of a binary?
[22:23] <jhutchins> toss2: esc,w
[22:24] <maujhsn> Guest38385 How were you able to acquire this information about the driver!
[22:24] <jhutchins> toss2: Sorry, esc,:,w,enter
[22:24] <toss2> um
[22:24] <toss2> ok
[22:24] <toss2> thanks
[22:24] <Guest38385> Good question I saw it on a Linux Website today and guess what I cant remember the name of it
[22:24] <toss2> a\h I can't type in vi :((
[22:25] <toss2> I type :w enter
[22:25] <toss2> and nothinfg
[22:25] <toss2> so I need to do :w (enter) ?
[22:25] <nespik> Press ESC
[22:25] <maujhsn> Guest38385  Hmmmm!
[22:25] <nespik> Then :w enter
[22:25] <toss2> thanks ne0sis
[22:25] <nespik> I am still getting acclimated to vi
[22:25] <toss2> thanks nespik
[22:25] <pvl1> rantic: idk never looked into it. maybe they take the nvidia sources and do some work. but its not what you would get if you downloaded from nvidia
[22:26] <Guest38385> I did see it
[22:26] <Guest38385> no kidding
[22:26] <Guest38385> Working on Bumblebee and Optimus in particular
[22:26] <toss2> how to save now?
[22:26] <toss2> :(
[22:26] <nespik> ZZ
[22:26] <toss2> sorry about this
[22:26] <nespik> Save and exit is ZZ
[22:26] <toss2> thanks I am in BIG chaos right now :( thanks
[22:26] <k1l> guys no need to panic. it takes some time untill the driver is stable enough to get in the ubunut repos
[22:26] <nespik> It takes time to get used to it toss2
[22:27] <MonkeyDust_> Guest38385  please change your nickname to something more readable
[22:27] <Guest38385> Hi MonkeyDust how do I go about doing that?
[22:27] <MonkeyDust> Guest38385  type    /nick blah
[22:28] <skraito_> http://0x71.org/2013/12/11/0x71-xc-our-boss-which-is-jesus-christ-code-this-we-are-releasing-this-0day-assembly-compiler-ide-for-windows-under-his-command-all-glory-belong-to-him-enjoy-thank-you-lord-jesus-christ/
[22:28] <toss2> pls see http://pastie.org/8545867
[22:28] <toss2> I am trying to reset my mysql password
[22:28] <toss2> I edited my.cnf
[22:28] <Guest38385> Lets see if that worked
[22:28] <toss2> and now I cant start mysql
[22:28] <Guest38385> nope
[22:29] <knightshade> Hello
[22:29] <Guest38385> now?
[22:29] <knightshade> How do I temporarily disable automatic suspend mode via commandline in xubuntu 12.04?
[22:29] <maujhsn> For anyone interesting in making ubuntu- portable on a 32 GB "USB"!  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GF4GGP8/ref=cm_sw_r_fa_myi?m=A366Z5T5ZQ30R4
[22:29] <Guest38385> ok now
[22:29] <Guest38385> nope ll
[22:30] <knightshade> I just wanted to copy some files via ssh and the client was going to suspend mode while copying. :-/
[22:31] <jhutchins> toss2: I think vi is great.  Another write, exit sequence is esc,wq,enter.
[22:32] <toss2>  http://pastie.org/8545875 this is mysql erro log
[22:32] <toss2> thi sis syslog  http://pastie.org/8545877
[22:32] <pvl1> i dont really need a dm to run i3 right?
[22:33] <toss2> hiw can I exit from vi?
[22:33] <jhutchins> toss2: ubuntu's mysql comes pre-configured with a user and password that are used to start and stop the service.  If you change them or overwrite the mysql internal database, the init script won't work, although you can still start the daemon manually as root.
[22:33] <jhutchins> toss2: esc,:,q
[22:33] <Guest99736> esc
[22:33] <Guest99736> ,:
[22:33] <Guest99736> then q!
[22:34] <toss2> esc :q! ?
[22:34] <jhutchins> toss2: The password and how to fix it are documented in the /usr/share/doc/mysql* files.
[22:34] <toss2> wihout ,?
[22:34] <jhutchins> toss2: Yes, no commas.
[22:34] <toss2> ok
[22:34] <jhutchins> Exclamation point forces quit without write.
[22:34] <toss2> any idea how to
[22:34] <toss2> see why mysql wont start?
[22:34] <jhutchins> toss2: ubuntu's mysql comes pre-configured with a user and password that are used to start and stop the service.  If you change them or overwrite the mysql internal database, the init script won't work, although you can still start the daemon manually as root.
[22:34] <jhutchins> toss2: The password and how to fix it are documented in the /usr/share/doc/mysql* files.
[22:35] <toss2> sorry
[22:35] <toss2> how can I write in vi again?
[22:37] <jhutchins> toss2: i to insert, r to replace, escape to access command mode, : to issue commands.
[22:37] <n008> how do I solve the freezing fullscreen flash problem
[22:37] <toss2> I can't start mysql after putting this line in my.cnf skip-grant-tables=1'
[22:37] <n008> on ubuntu
[22:38] <toss2> thanks
[22:38] <n008> my computer freezes if flip to fullscreen mode on flash
[22:38] <jhutchins> toss2: https://www.shell-tips.com/2006/10/29/help-sheet-for-vi-editor/ http://www.viemu.com/a_vi_vim_graphical_cheat_sheet_tutorial.html
[22:39] <bennypr0fane> hello, what is, in your opinion, the best GUI-application for ripping a DVD and compressing it to one file
[22:39] <jhutchins> toss2: http://zzyxx.wikidot.com/vim
[22:40] <jhutchins> n008: Faster computer, faster CGI, faster downlink.
[22:40] <jhutchins> bennypr0fane: dd
[22:41] <bennypr0fane> jhutchins thanks, but i did ask for GUI-program
[22:41] <jhutchins> bennypr0fane: dd if=/dev/dvd of=/path/to/dvdtitle.iso
[22:41] <bgy> hi
[22:41] <jhutchins> bennypr0fane: By all means run it in a GUI.
[22:41] <bennypr0fane> haha
[22:41] <q0> Hello, I made a startup disk for arm devices as ubuntu, but after I format the micro SD, it shows the same files again ??????
[22:42] <jhutchins> bennypr0fane: I hear good things about handbrake but I'm not familiar with what it actually does.  The above works, makes a mountable/playable file that can be burned to a blank DVDR, and sometimes even overcomes DRM.
[22:43] <rypervenche> q0: How did you format it?
[22:43] <bgy> How could change the ulimit for an user? I tried to set "user - nofile 10240" to /etc/security/limits.conf and then tried sudo su user --shell /bin/bash --command "ulimit -n10000" but the operation is not permited
[22:43] <bgy> currently the limit is 1024 and if i try to set it to 1000 it works because the hard limit is not reached
[22:44] <bgy> I also tried to reboot the machine to make sure the limits.conf is "loaded"
[22:44] <q0> rypervenche, via ubuntu startup d creator, also with nautilus file manager which has an option to format
[22:45] <bennypr0fane> jhutchins:  that would be a bit too simple, I have a more complicated case. 1. the outcome needs to playable without mounting it to a disk first, just a media file 2. when I have that, I need to also get the soundtrack in a separate file
[22:45] <Ben64> q0: so what is the actual problem you are encountering
[22:46] <neomaskadax> Hey
[22:46] <rypervenche> bgy: What happens when you type "sudo ulimit -n 1000" ?
[22:46] <jhutchins> bennypr0fane: I'd look at handbrake then.  You can play the iso directly with mplayer.
[22:46] <n008> my computer freezes if flip to fullscreen mode on flash
[22:46] <jhutchins> n008: Yep.  Flash is a horrible format.
[22:47] <jhutchins> n008: Does it matter if the file is local vs. remote?
[22:47] <bennypr0fane> thanks
[22:48] <jhutchins> n008: Can we assume that you're playing it with the Adobe plugin for firefox?
[22:50] <q0> Ben64, after formatting the files reappear
[22:51] <Oliver_> Would someone be able to help me?  I have an extra laptop, a dell latitude running Ubuntu.  I was wondering if I could set up an ssh tunnel on it so that when I go to school I can connect to it.  Like using it as a VPN.
[22:52] <Oliver_> So I can be on my school's wifi on my Android phone and connect to the PC to use my home wifi so I can use Facebook and the like.
[22:52] <Ben64> q0: what files
[22:53] <q0> Ben64, the files inside the SD card I'm formatting
[22:53] <Ben64> q0: what files
[22:54] <q0> boot files and a bunch of arm device os rootfs
[22:54] <q0> as two different partitions
[22:54] <Ben64> because you told the startup disk creator to make those?
[22:55] <Ben64> use gparted if you really want to wipe everything from it
[22:55] <q0> the first time I did was with dd, I'm not sure but the last time was with startup disk creator I think yes
[22:55] <bgy> rypervenche, sudo: ulimit: command not found
[22:55] <jhutchins> Oliver_: That depends on the router/firewall between your home PC and the network, and on whether you can track the public IP address.
[22:55] <q0> ahh. Gparted.. Ok this is a tip. Thank you
[22:56] <bgy> but if I do sudo su user --shell /bin/bash --command "ulimit -n1000" then sudo su redis --shell /bin/bash --command "ulimit -n" it returns 1000 (or whatver I previously set)
[22:56] <Oliver_> jhutchins: Ok, I have the wifi pass. for the school wifi, and I obv. have my own.
[22:56] <jhutchins> Oliver_: You want to set the router to "forward a port" to the internal server.  I would suggest that you NOT use port 22.  You may have to tell your sshd to listen on the additional port.
[22:56] <Ben64> q0: if you used dd, then yeah you should use gparted to get back to a normal state. you could have really weird partition stuff going on there
[22:56] <Oliver_> I'm only 5 minutes walking from my school anyways
[22:57] <Oliver_> jhutchins: ok
[22:57] <bgy> I'm just limited to 1024 no matter I set up the limits.conf correctly (I think)
[22:57] <jhutchins> Oliver_: Usually the router has the public IP address, and the internal computers have private, non-routable addresses like <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:58] <Nothing_Much> Are there any encryption GUI front-ends for the Archive Manager in Xubuntu 13.10?
[22:58] <Oliver_> jhutchins: ok
[22:58] <jhutchins> Oliver_: On my old router, I could forward say 222 to 22 on my desktop, and 223 to 22 on my server.  New router, 222 has to go to 222, so desktop now listens on 22 and 222 (similar on server).
[22:58] <bgy> rypervenche, when I do it with my own user it works (after logout/login) but in my case it is the redis user which don't have shell or anything
[22:58] <Oliver_> gotcha
[22:59] <Ben64> Oliver_: why not concentrate on school work while at school?
[22:59] <jhutchins> Oliver_: If you can figure out the brand and model of the router, there are probably instructions on the internet.  Some ISPs user routers that can't do that, but they're getting rare.
[22:59] <Oliver_> Ben64: I have an hour long lunch, I eat in class most of the time.
[22:59] <Oliver_> Ben64: Netflix to pass the time.
[22:59] <Nothing_Much> Are there any encryption GUI front-ends for the Archive Manager in Xubuntu 13.10?
[23:00] <Ben64> well netflix definitely isn't going to work with that method
[23:00] <Oliver_> Ben64: Why is that?
[23:00] <Ben64> your connection will be much too slow routed through your house
[23:01] <Oliver_> Ben64: Really?  Isn't it just forwarding to my home connection?
[23:01] <Ben64> school -> house -> netflix -> house -> school
[23:01] <Oliver_> Ben64: Oh, gotcha.
[23:02] <Ben64> everything will be limited by your upstream, which on a residential connection, is bad
[23:02] <Oliver_> Ben64: Is there a way to do something similar?
[23:02] <Ben64> get a real server, with 100mbit
[23:02] <Oliver_> lol, not a possibility.  Thanks though.
[23:02] <Oliver_> Gonna save up to build my Desktop and my HTPC first.
[23:02] <Ben64> they're not hard to get
[23:03] <Oliver_> Ben64: 100mb is when I'm still with my paretns.
[23:03] <q0> Ben64, trying it with gparted but it's not even recognizing : Device has zero length, can't possibly store.....etc.
[23:03] <Ben64> q0: whats the device name, if you know? (like /dev/sdd)
[23:03] <q0> sdc
[23:03] <talin> hello. i don't like the idea of installing a "complete" desktop or server edition. is it possible to download and install a sort of minimal edition of ubuntu? and is it likely that it'll get me into some difficulties later?
[23:04] <Ben64> !minimal | talin
[23:04] <Ben64> q0: what does "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdc" say? if its more than 2 lines, use a pastebin
[23:04] <talin> Ben64: ah cool. can i install it on a usb stick as well?
[23:04] <q0> Ben64, nothing
[23:04] <Ben64> talin: not sure, but i don't see why  not
[23:05] <Ben64> q0: unplug it, wait a bit, then plug it back in, then pastebin "dmesg | tail -n20"
[23:05] <q0> Ben64, it recognizes only the two partitions when I plug it in again
[23:05] <talin> i come from debian. what is the main difference between it and ubuntu?
[23:05] <q0> so when it's out it's sdc when in sdc sdc1 sdc2
[23:06] <Ben64> q0: ok
[23:07] <iceroot> talin: upstart instead of initd/systemd, unity as default, sometimes major updates during a release, its based on debian sid, new releases every 6 month
[23:08] <q0> Ben64, http://pastebin.com/Sa2Gcg3A
[23:08] <iceroot> talin: and more non-free software in the system (e.g. firmware) while debian is 100% Free in the isos
[23:08] <shams> hello friends, i have removed my wubi ubuntu 12.04 and installed it from DVD  as suggested here, shrinked  window in 100 GB and reserved 400 for Linux, but during the installation i was never asked where to install Linux, how do i know that space 400 GB is being used by Linux http://www.pasteall.org/pic/63857
[23:08] <q0> the files still show up though...
[23:08] <Ben64> q0: looks like you can use gparted on it. but its /dev/sdb not sdc
[23:09] <q0> gparted doesn't recognize anything though, maybe i should restart
[23:09] <Ben64> q0: are you ejecting it before trying to use gparted?
[23:10] <talin> iceroot: aah, cool
[23:10] <talin> iceroot: but if i install mini.iso, i won't' get unity, and i can pickanything i like
[23:10] <Ben64> you could also remove unity easily if you do the normal install
[23:10] <Ben64> or use lubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu
[23:11] <iceroot> talin: the mini.iso is asking you if you want a GUI
[23:11] <q0> Ben64, ejecting, still same result
[23:11] <talin> i see.
[23:11] <Ben64> q0: no no, you don't want to eject. that removes the device and gparted can't see it anymore
[23:11] <talin> i was hoping i could try enlightenment, but i don't suppose it's' available with apt-get? atleast it's' not on debian
[23:11] <iceroot> talin: you can also remove unity (ubuntu-desktop) later and install any other desktops (kubuntu-desktop, lubuntu-desktop and so on)
[23:11] <iceroot> talin: packages.ubuntu.com
[23:12] <iceroot> !info | e17
[23:12] <ice9> how to find installed libraries names?
[23:12] <iceroot> !info e17
[23:12] <q0> Haven't been ejecting.. Absolutely hopeless now
[23:12] <iceroot> talin: its in the ubuntu repos
[23:13] <iceroot> talin: and of course its also in debian
[23:13] <Ben64> q0: plug it in, don't do anything else except "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sd[x]"
[23:13] <talin> hmm, so it's avail with apt-get if i install "saucy" (newest ubuntu?) and not with lucid (stable?)
[23:13] <iceroot> !info e17 lucid
[23:13] <Ben64> q0: make sure you have the right one, it could be sdb or sdc or sdd or sde or...
[23:13] <shams> hello friends, i have removed my wubi ubuntu 12.04 and installed it from DVD  as suggested here, shrinked  window in 100 GB and reserved 400 for Linux, but during the installation i was never asked where to install Linux, how do i know that space 400 GB is being used by Linux http://www.pasteall.org/pic/63857
[23:13] <iceroot> talin: its not on ubuntu 10.04 right, but 10.04 is no longer supported on the desktop
[23:14] <iceroot> talin: you should at least use 12.04 and there is e17
[23:14] <iceroot> !info e17 precise
[23:14] <q0> I'm sure it's sdb, which doesn't show up anything with fdisk. But other partitions sdb1 (boot) sdb2 (rootfs) show up in fdisk
[23:14] <Ben64> shams: it shows on that picture. ~22GB used
[23:15] <q0> Ben64, and also, sdb2 in fdisk says it doesn't have a valid partition table
[23:15] <talin> iceroot: i think i might try mini.iso then and just try to install enlightenment. i am kind of annoyed with how strict stuff is in debian. no firefox, it's called iceweasel, etc...
[23:15] <shams> Ben64, I want all that 400 for Linux, how do i do that.
[23:15] <iceroot> talin: how cares if it is called firefox/thunderbird or iceweasel/icedove
[23:15] <iceroot> who
[23:16] <talin> iceroot: well, that's just one of many things
[23:16] <shams> Ben64, I want all that 400 for Linux, how do i do that.
[23:16] <iceroot> talin: its all about free software and freedom
[23:16] <Ben64> q0: ok... you can just smash everything. use "sudo umount /dev/sdb1" and all the others that are mounted from it, then "sudo dd bs=1M if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb" and make sure its sdb you want to kill, because it will kill.
[23:16] <waykool99> isn't Iceweasel the alpha or beta to Firefox?
[23:16] <talin> iceroot: it's a nightmare to install e17
[23:16] <Ben64> shams: it is
[23:16] <iceroot> talin: ubuntu does not really care about that (e.g. these shopping lenses)
[23:16] <iceroot> talin: sudo apt-get install e17, on ubuntu and debian
[23:17] <talin> iceroot: "unable to locate package e17"
[23:17] <Kablam> help please i dont have any sound in xbmc and when i do aplay -l it says no sound but if i do sudo aplay-l i get sounddevices ... must be permission problem.... what should i do?
[23:17] <iceroot> talin: debian 7 does have e17. i have it here
[23:17] <talin> iceroot: how? i am running debian 7
[23:17] <mengesb> Chromium recently updated to 31.0.1650.63; now I can't run it... is there a known issue currently ?
[23:18] <iceroot> talin: ah is see its not in the main repo, i am using other repos as well, so on ubuntu just sudo apt-get install e17
[23:18] <q0> Ben64, wish there was some way of thanking you for spending this time
[23:18] <q0> all good :)
[23:18] <talin> iceroot: hmm. ithink i will give the minimal ubuntu a try then
[23:18] <Ben64> q0: just type "!cookie | Ben64" in here
[23:18] <q0> !cookie | Ben64
[23:18] <Jonbo> | isn't here
[23:18] <q0> lol
[23:18] <Ben64> :D
[23:18] <talin> iceroot: thanks for all the info (and for knowing both debian and ubuntu :-)
[23:19] <Ben64> !cookie bot?
[23:19] <Jonbo> bot? isn't here
[23:19] <shams> Ben64, thank you, but this time i see no Proprietary drivers, i have an nvidia GT 640,
[23:19] <waykool99> yes, there are some issues with google Chromium. check their website. i got locked out of some Advanced settings then crashed earlier.
[23:20] <Ben64> !cookie iceroot
[23:20] <Jonbo> You don't have any cookies to give!
[23:20] <talin> do you recommend 12.04 or 13.10?
[23:20] <Kijutsu> Help -- I upgraded to ubuntu 13.10, and now I have a PHP script that no longer functions.  Was a major upgrade done on PHP going into 13.10?
[23:20] <iceroot> Kijutsu: apt-get changelog php5
[23:21] <iceroot> Kijutsu: and yes, normally there are major updates during release changes (and normally its the fault of the programer using strange php5 stuff which is not working in newer versions)
[23:21] <mengesb> anyone else having issues with 12.04 LTS amd64 chromium or google-chrome on version 31.0.1650.63-1 ?
[23:22] <iceroot> !details | mengesb
[23:22] <iceroot> talin: 12.04
[23:22] <waykool99> i was mengesb.
[23:23] <Kijutsu> iceroot: long story short, I use a php script to tweet out song titles during automated playback of a shoutcast server.  and now i get fwrite/fclose errors. expected parameter 1 to be resource, boolean given and the script hangs
[23:23] <iceroot> talin: i dont like non lts releases in ubuntu, they are introducing normally new stuff which is not tested very good compared to lts releases
[23:23] <mengesb> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS amd64 - recent chromium update renders the browser unusable, It doesn't give any feedback - attempts to start then exists. Chromium has an error that the core dumped; google-chrome gives a little more info: [7:7:1211/152058:ERROR:base_feature_provider.cc(122)] manifestTypes: Allowing web_page contexts requires supplying a value for matches. [10204:10204:1211/152058:ERROR:base_feature_provider.cc(122)] manifestTypes: Allowing web_page
[23:23] <iceroot> Kijutsu: maybe #php can help
[23:24] <Kijutsu> iceroot: invite only :/
[23:24] <mengesb> chromium and google-chrome are both failing to run with what appears to be ultimately the same exit result: Illegal instruction (core dumped)
[23:24] <Kijutsu> damn these upgrades never go smoothly.
[23:24] <shams> Ben64,  i see no Proprietary drivers, i have an nvidia GT 640, do i have to install ? like sudo apt-get install nvidia ?
[23:24] <mengesb> waykool99: did you resolve it?
[23:25] <mengesb> I've tried full purge/re-install; removing cache, removing all config
[23:25] <waykool99> no, i formatted the drive to test other versions of Ubuntu.
[23:28] <waykool99> does Ubuntu's built-in or burned live CD of GParted have a way to write all zero's to the MBR and the rest of the drive?
[23:29] <Kijutsu> waykool99: you can use dd from a console to write zeros to a drive
[23:30] <waykool99> wow. didn't know that. thank you.
[23:30] <Kijutsu> it gives no warnings.. no errors.. no second chances..
[23:30] <Kijutsu> so use caution
[23:32] <shams>  i see no Proprietary drivers, i have an nvidia GT 640, do i have to install first ? like sudo apt-get install nvidia ?
[23:33] <waykool99> i have an 8 year old Western Digital Diagnostics CD that write millions of zero's at beginning and end of drive -or- zero's the entire drive. called WD. CS guy said they stopped giving those CD's with drive's anymore.
[23:34] <waykool99> he wouldn't say why
[23:34] <waykool99> my WD diag CD only works on drives less than 900 GB
[23:35] <Kijutsu> waykool99: if you're looking for a quick way to erase a drive, look up DBAN, boot and nuke.  Fully wipes a hard drive with DOD standards
[23:36] <Beldar> shams, You may of had the nvidia drivers install from the repos upon installing, everything look good and running fine?
[23:36] <waykool99> lol. cool.
[23:36] <waykool99> thanks for that
[23:39] <Beldar> waykool99, If this is a big HD this is going to take some considerable time so be prepared for that.
[23:39] <Kijutsu> Beldar & waykool99: indeed...DBAN typically takes around 3 hours for a 3 round randomized wipe on a 160GB drive.
[23:40] <waykool99> biggest drive i have is WD (formerly from USB drive) SATA 3 TB. 2- 2 TB, 1 TB. dozen or so smaller SATA and IDE drives
[23:41] <Kijutsu> Yeah it'll be a while to wipe it fully
[23:41] <Kijutsu> Unless you're concerned about virus or sensitive data, a zero write of mbr and partition table should be enough
[23:42] <waykool99> the WD Diag cd, to write zero's to 650 GB SATA drive takes over 2 hours.
[23:43] <ButtGoof> o/
[23:43] <andygraybeal> ufw allows outbound traffic by default right?  i don't have to right explicit outbound rules.
[23:43] <ButtGoof> ufw?
[23:43] <waykool99> good point Kijutsu. it gives you option to write millions of zero's at beginning and end of drive.
[23:43] <andygraybeal> ufw, the firewall
[23:44] <shams> Belder, yes running fine, only the proprietary driver window i see nothing.
[23:44] <andygraybeal> iptables interface in ubuntu
[23:44] <MarGul> I want to make sure that I have the proprietary drivers installed. I have a Radeon HD 6400M and when I run the command fglrxinfo I get my information (is this so I know I have proprietary drivers installed)
[23:44] <knightshade> waykool99: if you use dd, don't forget to specify a blocksize value like bs=2048; with the standard value of 512 it's very slow
[23:45] <ButtGoof> yes
[23:45] <ButtGoof> and make sure dest size is bigger
[23:46] <Guest59120> So I am having a install issue with ubuntu 12.04. I have tried usb keys and cd. My resources are limited to what I can do. I can't reinstall from 32 - 64 bit because I installed the wrong version.
[23:46] <Guest59120> Can anyone help me at all
[23:47] <ButtGoof> just reinstall
[23:47] <Guest59120> I tried
[23:47] <Guest59120> it goes to the logo screen on boot
[23:47] <Guest59120> then freezes and my keyboard and mouse turn off
[23:47] <ButtGoof> what logo
[23:47] <Guest59120> or it goes to busy box
[23:47] <Guest59120> ubuntu
[23:47] <Guest59120> with the dots under it
[23:47] <ButtGoof> install mint
[23:47] <Guest59120> what is that?
[23:48] <ButtGoof> its a cleaner version of ubuntu
[23:48] <Guest59120> ok
[23:48] <waykool99> i've found using "Testdisk" incl in Live CD GParted that many old ext 4, swap's, FAT 32 partitions stay on. like they're 'appending' to the MBR.
[23:48] <k1l> Guest59120: dont mind the troll
[23:48] <ButtGoof> realy u crazy hitler child
[23:49] <knightshade> o.O
[23:53] <wad> So I'm trying to get the NVidia driver working on my new laptop. Installed it, but the video isn't working. X reports that: (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[23:54] <wad> Looking in xorg.conf, it's trying to set up a screen... what could be wrong?
[23:58] <hengha> I kept getting mising -lresolv on ubuntu 13.10, I got build-essential installed already, which package may I missed already ?


[15:41] <ChinnoDog> swift110-phone__: I don't fit in because I don't have many common interests with other peeps in there.