[04:49] <MightyF> SeamusLP, yay, browser doesn't crash anymore
[04:49] <XTCboarder> or maybe a car :p
[04:49] <nickrud> XTCboarder, don't do that, she'll kill you
[04:49] <XTCboarder> :p
[04:49] <lexxan> I got a nice truck :/
[04:49] <XTCboarder> i ain0t doing it
[04:50] <SeamusLP> MightyF:  Cool.  So far the only problem with totam-xine I've had is with a handfull of wmvs with messed up sound.  I just download those and play them in mplayer.
[04:50] <SeamusLP> ah, gone, heh.
[04:51] <nickrud> SeamusLP, so the mozpluggerrc uses totem in ubuntu?
[04:51] <XTCboarder> the only problem i have with sound is i can't hear stuff from vcd's
[04:52] <anto9us> XTCboarder: could be a codec problem perhaps
[04:52] <SeamusLP> nickrud that particular config file does...  Maybe you could read the mozplugger man page for awhile and figure out how to use mplayer
[04:52] <nickrud> SeamusLP, I'm agnostic, I'll try anything for a lark :)
[04:53] <nickrud> And, I learned it once, I'm not sure I want to go through it again for a lark
[04:53] <XTCboarder> yeah......
[04:53] <SeamusLP> well I'm certainly not going to when totem is working just fine
[04:54] <SeamusLP> And hopefully that totem / mozilla plugin will come out and we'll be able to get a progress bar
[04:55] <nickrud> yeah, I've read a bit about that. I do kinda miss unstable already, you never know what'll show up tomorrow :)
[04:55] <lexxan> There's a firefox totem plugin for breezy?
[04:56] <nickrud> no, I was wondering what the status was in debian unstable, probably not there
[04:57] <lexxan> check! :P
[04:57] <blujay> an apt-cache search for "mozilla plugin" doesn't find anything for totem
[04:58] <nickrud> yeah, it's still blue sky stuff, but, ircc, it's being done by cluefull people, so it'll show up someday
[04:58] <helio7> usynic: http://prism54.org/supported_cards.php shows only one SMC pci not pcmcia card as supported; am I misinterpreting?
[04:59] <delltony> hi anyone had any luck converting files to xvid format using mencoder i keep getting mplayer not compiled with libmp3lame and unfortunate for me i'm not good enough to know to compile mplayer with this support
[05:00] <Quinn_Storm> delltony: the problem is ubuntu stripped mp3 support out of everything.  you would have to install a non-ubuntu mplayer or recompile ubuntu's mplayer
[05:01] <p0m> Ubuntu didn't strip anything from anywhere. It was debian.
[05:01] <delltony> ok so just downoad the binaries and simply run ./configure ?
[05:01] <Quinn_Storm> debian's core packages -do- have mp3 support
[05:01] <Quinn_Storm> ubuntu's don't
[05:01] <delltony> well any way i can get the core package then?
[05:01] <p0m> Quinn_Storm: I keep getting told that, yet I can play mp3's fine on base ubuntu.
[05:02] <SeamusLP> Quinn_Storm:  That's funny, I'm playing mp3s in mplayer right now and I haven't recompiled anything
[05:02] <Quinn_Storm> p0m: you probably installed a package you didn't know you did
[05:02] <Quinn_Storm> SeamusLP: yeah you probably have the marrilat mplayer
[05:02] <sig> Quinn_Storm: yes it does
[05:02] <sig> I have a base install with no extra packages
[05:02] <sig> pure cd install with nothing else
[05:02] <p0m> Quinn_Storm: Highly unlikely, as the box wasn't even connected to the network until today.
[05:02] <delltony> Quinn_Storm, sorry to bother but where could read about recompiling the ubuntu mplayer. i know google but really sure what to search for
[05:02] <sig> I play mp3's
[05:03] <Quinn_Storm> delltony: I'm not sure the easiest way
[05:03] <delltony> hard way would be fine as long as i understand or have a walk thru
[05:03] <nickrud> sig, what player?
[05:04] <Quinn_Storm> btw, even if mplayer has mp3 decoding compiled in, mp3 encoding is a separate thing which is the libmp3lame is for
[05:04] <delltony> Quinn_Storm, in a nutshell if you don't mind how can i accomplish this :)
[05:05] <Quinn_Storm> delltony: make sure you have libmp3lame-dev installed, apt-get source mplayer, cd into it, dh_buildpackage (I think)
[05:05] <delltony> ok let me try and thanks
[05:05] <BLACKSTEALTH> hhi
[05:06] <BLACKSTEALTH> ddoes the new ubuntu live cd play wmvs?
[05:06] <SeamusLP> blackstealth:  Highly doubt it
[05:06] <jacquesmerde> why did ubuntu decide to use gstreamer?
[05:06] <BLACKSTEALTH> gah..
[05:06] <BLACKSTEALTH> hm..
[05:06] <BLACKSTEALTH> any live that does?
[05:06] <hector_> hello! nyone could help me with my usb printer permissions? Is there a way of not having to change the permissions of /dev/usb/lp0 each time I reboot in order to be able to print? If I don't do it I get a permission denied error
[05:06] <Amaranth> jacquesmerde: Because it's a part of the GNOME Desktop?
[05:06] <BLACKSTEALTH> how about movix2?
[05:07] <sig> http://johnvansickle.com/stuff/misc/encode.dv.xvid
[05:07] <delltony> hmm Quinn_Storm i see a problem i see no libmp3lame in synaptic :(
[05:07] <jacquesmerde> Amaranth: is it really? it cant be compiled without it?
[05:07] <Amaranth> BLACKSTEALTH: No Live CD will play WMV3 files. That would require the dll file from windows which is illegal to use without owning a copy of Windows that you aren't using.
[05:07] <Quinn_Storm> delltony: ok, hang on
[05:08] <Amaranth> jacquesmerde: It might be able to but it's no reccomended, why?
[05:08] <delltony> np
[05:08] <Quinn_Storm> try just liblame-dev
[05:08] <BLACKSTEALTH> hm.. great ok
[05:08] <BLACKSTEALTH> thanks
[05:08] <Amaranth> jacquesmerde: It's just a layer on top of either esd, oss, or alsa.
[05:08] <SeamusLP> blackstealth:  Your best bet would be to install ubuntu on a portable harddrive or something
[05:08] <jacquesmerde> sorry, major newb question, but i've followed the "How can i share my printer on my LAN" in the ubuntu FAQ, now how do i access the printer from another linux computer? do i just edit cups stuff? does it transmit it through ipp?
[05:08] <BLACKSTEALTH> clostest thing to that is my ipod
[05:09] <Amaranth> jacquesmerde: heh, no clue
[05:09] <hector_> anyone could help me with my printing problems, please?
[05:09] <speedy2782> is it possible to have macos run on a pc?
[05:09] <SeamusLP> blackstealth:  heh...  You know people have put linux on an ipod...
[05:09] <Predius> speedy2782, using PearOS
[05:09] <SeamusLP> blackstealth:  Personally I wouldn't try it
[05:09] <BLACKSTEALTH> same lol
[05:09] <speedy2782> what is pearOS?
[05:09] <BLACKSTEALTH> it might fry
[05:09] <BLACKSTEALTH> thanks
[05:09] <BLACKSTEALTH> good night all
[05:09] <Amaranth> speedy2782: Only with emulation with PearPC. It runs 10-40x slower than a low-end mac though. And that's only if you have a fast x86 machine.
[05:09] <benplaut> woohoo! just converted another person to Ubuntu :)
[05:10] <jacquesmerde> Amaranth: i have no clue either. i go to all the trouble of de-n00bing myself, but i completely forgot to learn about printing
[05:10] <Amaranth> jacquesmerde: I can't print either. :)
[05:10] <nickrud> hector_, if /dev/usb/lp0 is getting wrong permissions, it's probably a bug. check bugzilla.ubuntu.com and search for cups and see if someone lese has the problem
[05:10] <speedy2782> I have a 2.0 celeron laptop with 128 ram and shared video
[05:10] <speedy2782> using ubuntu
[05:10] <speedy2782> what are the chances that it would work at all
[05:10] <speedy2782> 10-40 times slower
[05:10] <hector_> nickrud thanks, I'll do that right now
[05:10] <Quinn_Storm> looking up now the -exact- commands for recompiling
[05:10] <Amaranth> speedy2782: It wouldn't work. At all.
[05:10] <speedy2782> that sucks
[05:11] <Nalioth> speedy2782, it is a PowerPC emulator for you to use
[05:11] <Amaranth> speedy2782: You need to feed it at _least_ 256MB dedicated to PearPC (you need 384MB or more).
[05:11] <Cowlike> can you install ubuntu without X? don't recall the install giving me that option
[05:11] <speedy2782> would it run on my 3.2 1gig
[05:11] <g14> Cowlike: the server install is the minimal install without x
[05:11] <Amaranth> speedy2782: PearPC will never be able to emulate a Mac good enough to make running OS X all the time usable.
[05:11] <nickrud> Cowlike, use the server install
[05:12] <Cowlike> thx
[05:12] <gp_aaron> Amaranth, no but cherryOS will </sarcasm>
[05:12] <nickrud> hector_, you still there?
[05:12] <delltony> Quinn_Storm, thanks
[05:12] <hector_> nickrud yes
[05:12] <SeamusLP> Amaranth:  Whats the address to your website?  I lost it yet again
[05:12] <nickrud> hector_, search also under udev on bugzilla
[05:12] <Nalioth> speedy2782, it does not run fast on any machine at this time
[05:12] <speedy2782> is there any desktop environments on linux the are close to macos x
[05:12] <Amaranth> SeamusLP: http://www.realistanew.com
[05:13] <hector_> nickrud I'll do, thanks
[05:13] <jacquesmerde> crikey, i can find info on getting OSFOO to print to the linux cups printer, for all os's EXCEPT linux
[05:13] <SeamusLP> Amaranth:  Aha, new menu editor.  Looks great.
[05:13] <nickrud> hector_, it's easy to point someone at a bug list :)
[05:13] <Amaranth> speedy2782: No, not really. If you've used OS X you know it's more than just a look. It's all the little details.
[05:13] <Nalioth> gp_aaron, yes, i would like to buy a box of CherryOS, the one with the free terabit network card free inside
[05:14] <Amaranth> speedy2782: GNOME is actually the closest, believe it or not.
[05:14] <speedy2782> I would really like the dockbar on gnome
[05:14] <speedy2782> but I can't seem to find one...and get it to work
[05:14] <ksnyder> i can't mount my cdrom drive when i try to do it like it says in the ubuntu guide i get the following error
[05:14] <ksnyder> ksnyder@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /media/cdrom0/ -o unhide
[05:14] <ksnyder> mount: /dev/scd0 is not a block device (maybe try `-o loop'?)
[05:14] <gp_aaron> Nalioth, and they use anti-aging pills as packaging foam
[05:15] <Predius> Amaranth, the deal with OSX is the fact that it has perfect compability with its hardware
[05:15] <Predius> and the look, too
[05:15] <Amaranth> Predius: Not even that. Have you ever used OS X and iLife?
[05:16] <gp_aaron> does anyone know how to add items to the computer:/// area?
[05:16] <Amaranth> Predius: It could look like total shit and I'd still want to use it because of the details.
[05:16] <gp_aaron> iLife is drool worth
[05:16] <stryderjzw> Hi everyone, I was wondering if anyone can help me diagnose a problem
[05:16] <gp_aaron> y
[05:17] <ksnyder> can anyone help me with my cd rom drive? i'm trying to upgrade to hoary, and when i put the cd in it just keeps making a clicking noise and never does anything
[05:17] <hector_> nickrud I found the bug reported as http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10037
[05:17] <hector_> nickrud no answer
[05:17] <Quinn_Storm> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=111204 - adapt the info here to rebuild mplayer
[05:17] <ksnyder> when i boot it, it hangs at the sony screen and the cdrom makes a noise like it's trying to read it, but it justs loads as usual after about a minute
[05:18] <SiRrUs> hello
[05:18] <karljp> anyone know how to override reply-to and actually reply to the original sender in tbird?
[05:19] <Nalioth> i like using OSX cuz when i plug in a new firewire/usb device, it doesnt ask for drivers or nothing, "It Just Works(tm)"
[05:19] <karljp> the reply to is set to a list address, and I don't want to reply to the list
[05:19] <karljp> but "reply to sender only" still obeys the reply-to header
[05:19] <delltony> ok going to look now and i get an error when doing the apt-get source mplayer-586
[05:19] <stryderjzw> My Ubuntu won't boot all of a sudden and before it gets to login screen, it freezes and now it jumps between tty1 and tty7
[05:19] <nickrud> hector_, udev controls permissions on dynamic devices, look there too, there may be a fix
[05:19] <Quinn_Storm> delltony: try just apt-get source mplayer
[05:19] <Edgan> stryderjzw: X problems
[05:20] <Edgan> stryderjzw: you install nvidia or ati binary drivers?
[05:20] <delltony> i did that as well
[05:20] <Quinn_Storm> delltony: not sure then
[05:20] <stryderjzw> Edgan: I just did a shutdown yesterday
[05:20] <stryderjzw> Edgan: it was normal
[05:20] <gp_aaron> Linux will always be my server OS
[05:20] <delltony> delltony@bubbabox:~$ sudo apt-get source mplayer
[05:20] <delltony> Reading package lists... Done
[05:20] <delltony> Building dependency tree... Done
[05:20] <delltony> E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_deb_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)
[05:20] <delltony> delltony@bubbabox:~$
[05:20] <gp_aaron> I had bad luck with panther server
[05:20] <IIIEars> uhelper - nvidia video card?
[05:20] <Edgan> stryderjzw: that doesn't mean much
[05:20] <Quinn_Storm> delltony: you need to apt-get update
[05:20] <p0m> delltony: Might want to update your lists :)
[05:21] <joshua___> Does hoary change firefox's font, or did I do something?
[05:21] <delltony> with the update?
[05:21] <delltony> as in apt-get update
[05:21] <joshua___> Doesn't make sense to change user preferences if it was the upgrade, imo
[05:21] <helio7> what's the advantage of a wifi card that's a/b/g vs b/g? does anyone need a?
[05:21] <stryderjzw> Edgan: Is there logs I can see to check wut's wrong?
[05:21] <Edgan> stryderjzw: maybe /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:21] <delltony> same thing after running apt-get update
[05:22] <stryderjzw> Edgan: I can access recovery mode... so there's a good sign
[05:22] <benplaut> helio7: not really, but ABG cards usually excell in other areas, aswell... higher class models
[05:22] <Nalioth> Amaranth, you are a prince among men.
[05:22] <benplaut> helio7: IBM Atheros ABG?
[05:22] <Amaranth> Nalioth: ?
[05:22] <helio7> benplaut: http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=viewProduct&localeCode=EN_USA&cid=5&scid=&pid=300
[05:22] <Nalioth> Amaranth, just accept the compliement gracefully
[05:23] <delltony> Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hoary/Release  Unable to find expected entry  deb/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[05:23] <delltony>  when i do apt-get update
[05:23] <nickrud> delltony, you're using synaptic, right?
[05:23] <delltony> i use apt-get install and or synaptic but yes
[05:23] <hector_> nickrud no fix found under udev
[05:23] <delltony> mostly apt
[05:24] <stryderjzw> Edgan: I don't see much in the logs
[05:24] <ritalin> hello
[05:24] <agnes> hey all!!
[05:25] <Marble2> what switches can I use in ps to view memory usage
[05:25] <angel12> how do i update warty to hoary?
[05:25] <benplaut> helio7: for cardbus, the most important thing is to have native linux support, so if you're only buying now, look for that first; ndiswrapper is a hassle
[05:25] <ritalin> Is it possible to get java on ppc? The wiki only has instructions for x86
[05:25] <ritalin> ?
[05:25] <nickrud> delltony, it looks like, from the error, that you've added a new repository
[05:25] <nowen> The gnome desktop doesn't align the icons very well... is there a way to fix this? there is a lot of overlapping.. and no proper grid..
[05:25] <Marble2> angel12: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, change every instance of warty to hoary
[05:25] <agnes> I have a quick question.. I had successfully set up pppoeconf, but now I'm moving the pppoe-login off to my wireless router.. how do I *disable* pppoeconf and restore my network card to dhcp?
[05:26] <Quinn_Storm> agnes: if you had to apt-get install it...try just apt-get removing it
[05:26] <Nalioth> ritalin, i wish you the best of luck at getting java on PPC
[05:26] <nickrud> delltony, and haven't apt-get update , so it's saying it should have that file (from the repository) but it doesn't
[05:26] <helio7> yeah ben, thanks googling that a-g model vs the g model returns far fewer hits; though neither is listed at prism54.org I found one tutorial for enabling in debian for the g model; thanks.
[05:26] <delltony> i have done apt-get update
[05:26] <agnes> Quinn_Storm: Actually, I didn't apt-get install pppoe.. however, I would still rather not do that, since I may someday need pppoe, no?
[05:26] <Nalioth> ritalin, there is a wiki for java on PPC at the site
[05:26] <delltony> maybe my sources.list is not right
[05:26] <Quinn_Storm> agnes: yeah you're right
[05:26] <speedy2782> Chat room Poll! are there any desktop viewers...or GUI...that are out there besides gnome that are worth giving a try?
[05:26] <nickrud> delltony, that's where I would look
[05:26] <benplaut> helio7: good luck! i have never had very good luck with wifi on any OS :^S
[05:26] <delltony> you mind posting your source list to a pastebin so i can have a look?
[05:27] <Marble2> what switches can I use in ps to view memory usage
[05:27] <nickrud> delltony, np
[05:27] <agnes> Quinn_Storm: so, is there a way to restore it?
[05:27] <hector_> nickrud I'm back sorry
[05:27] <Quinn_Storm> agnes: I've never used pppoe
[05:28] <agnes> Quinn_Storm: It occurs to me that this is the sort of thing that a good central ubuntu tool would do : )
[05:28] <QMario> Why isn't the user field given when trying to connect to a Linux computer on the network using Windows?
[05:28] <ritalin> Nalioth: linky?
[05:28] <agnes> Quinn_Storm: how does one "configure" an interface?
[05:28] <Quinn_Storm> agnes: in /etc/network/interfaces, I think
[05:28] <hector_> nickrud did you post anything after I said that I couldn't find a bug under dev?
[05:28] <agnes> Quinn_Storm: there isn't a tool to do it?
[05:28] <Quinn_Storm> agnes: I don't know
[05:28] <hector_> nickrud udev
[05:28] <nickrud> hector_, not yet. yeah, udev :)
[05:29] <agnes> anyone else know if ubuntu has a good tool to configure a network interface?
[05:29] <speedy2782> What is Cairo?
[05:29] <nickrud> hector_, what I know about udev you could write on the head of a pin
[05:29] <hector_> nickrud lol
[05:29] <Edgan> agnes: check the menus, it is there
[05:29] <nickrud> there are files you can edit to fix the permission problem, but I've only looked at them, not messed with them
[05:29] <QMario> Is anyone listening?
[05:29] <agnes> edgan: any hints?
[05:30] <hector_> nickrud well... maybe someone else knows about this bug
[05:30] <delltony> nickrud, you gotta chance to post your sources.list yet?
[05:30] <Edgan> agnes: the third menu, under system something
[05:30] <agnes> Edgan: I'm in Kubuntu, so maybe that makes things different.. I see nothing obvious..
[05:30] <hector_> nickrud thanks anyway... I'll keep trying
[05:30] <Edgan> agnes: I figured you were going to say that. That puts you on your own.
[05:31] <agnes> Edgan: well, what's the utility?
[05:31] <ShadowRage> okay, um
[05:31] <agnes> other than "in the third menu" : )
[05:31] <ShadowRage> dist-upgrade is failing
[05:31] <agnes> I could probably apt-get it..
[05:31] <Cowlike> QMario: connect how?
[05:31] <Edgan> agnes: I don't have ubuntu in front of me to tell you
[05:31] <nickrud> http://pastebin.com/278927 , delltony
[05:31] <helio7> agnes are you in #kubuntu as well?
[05:31] <agnes> Edgan: alright, thanks..
[05:31] <delltony> agnes there is a way to do network under control panel in kde but it doesn't work worth a damn
[05:31] <agnes> helio7: nope
[05:31] <nickrud> the security line is a bit optomistic, but
[05:31] <delltony> its network settings in the control panel
[05:31] <ShadowRage> dpkg: error processing /cdrom//pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.2-0ubuntu5_i386.deb (--unpack):
[05:31] <ShadowRage>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libnkgnomevfs.so', which is also in package mozilla-firefox
[05:31] <ShadowRage> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[05:32] <stryderjzw> Edgan: I was wondering if you can help me debug this... I'm totally lost
[05:32] <Nalioth> ritalin use your google...hint ---->  java ppc site:ubuntulinux.org
[05:32] <speedy2782> I am interested in the Cairo. What is required to install it- other than cairo?
[05:32] <hector_> other question: anyone here using Smeg 0.5?
[05:32] <QMario> Cowlike, When I try to connect to my Ubuntu computer over the network using my Windows XP computer the username box is grayed out.
[05:32] <anto9us> well, I've backed up my important stuff, I'm about to install ubuntu on my Dell Inspiron 9100, any last minute tips from you guys?
[05:32] <delltony> easiest way honestly is to edit your /etc/network/interfaces file agnes
[05:32] <ritalin> java ppc site:ubuntulinux.org
[05:32] <delltony> and nickrud thanks will go look
[05:32] <ritalin> doh
[05:32] <Edgan> stryderjzw: try stopping X and then try startx
[05:33] <Cowlike> QMario, using samba?
[05:33] <ritalin> Nalioth: cheers, ty
[05:33] <agnes> dell: not the friendliest path though.. there must be some ubuntu/kubuntu tool
[05:33] <delltony> dang nickrud you have no deb-src 's in there at all
[05:33] <nickrud> delltony, just repeat the deb line and head it with deb-src
[05:33] <Cowlike> anto9us, it will work. you'll have to tweak a few things but it will work
[05:34] <stryderjzw> Edgan: how do I stop X?  it keeps jumping around
[05:34] <benplaut> speedy2782: i would love to get cairo working... candy galore!
[05:34] <agnes> there's no kubuntu equivalent for "drakconf" or "yast" or the like?
[05:34] <nowen> The gnome desktop doesn't align the icons very well... is there a way to fix this? there is a lot of overlapping.. and no proper grid..
[05:34] <anto9us> Cowlike: any preperations for tweaking I should make now do you think?
[05:35] <Cowlike> anto9us, not really. my inspiron 8200 just worked. including the wireless adapter
[05:35] <Edgan> stryderjzw: try rescue mode and then start xfs, then startx
[05:35] <anto9us> Cowlike: your wifi isn't a 1450 I would guess, is it?
[05:36] <stryderjzw> Edgan: kk, I'll go try that
[05:36] <Cowlike> it's a cardbus card
[05:36] <speedy2782> benplaut:what is needed to get it working?
[05:36] <agnes> hmmm.
[05:36] <agnes> how did ubuntu install my network card when I installed it, then?
[05:37] <anto9us> ok, I know mine will work with ndiswrapper anyway, I'll use eth0 for setup
[05:37] <benplaut> speedy2782: i dunno... i'm also trying to figure it out
[05:37] <speedy2782> do you have X installed?
[05:37] <oasiao> ahhh
[05:38] <anto9us> see you all later and thanks for the tips
[05:38] <stryderjzw> Edgan: ok... how do I start xfs?
[05:38] <ShadowRage> can anyone fucking HELP me?
[05:38] <Edgan> stryderjzw: /etc/init.d/xfs start  maybe
[05:39] <ShadowRage> mozilla won't install
[05:39] <HrdwrBoB> hrm
[05:39] <ShadowRage> thus fucking up the whole hoary install
[05:39] <ShadowRage> all over some fucking trivial thing
[05:39] <HrdwrBoB> anyone has cpu throttling working on a dual opteron?
[05:39] <bob2> ShadowRage: stop it
[05:39] <jsgotangco> stop the F word
[05:39] <delltony> nickrud, this is working thanks question though you happen to know where i can find the libmp3lame source or whatever?
[05:40] <ShadowRage> bob2: why is mozilla refusing to install during a dist-upgrade?
[05:40] <ShadowRage> bob2: I even disabled all online repositories
[05:40] <Nalioth> ShadowRage, do you have unorthodox repos in your sources.list?
[05:40] <nickrud> deltony, you were trying to do something with mplayer, or am I confused
[05:40] <delltony> i am
[05:40] <bob2> ShadowRage: I have no idea
[05:40] <ShadowRage> Nalioth: nope, I only have the cdrom rep on
[05:40] <stryderjzw> Edgan: I can't seem to find xfs... wut is it?
[05:40] <bob2> ShadowRage: but swearing will not help
[05:40] <bob2> ShadowRage: did you ever use "backports"?
[05:40] <ShadowRage> dpkg: error processing /cdrom//pool/main/m/mozilla-firefox/mozilla-firefox-gnome-support_1.0.2-0ubuntu5_i386.deb (--unpack):
[05:40] <ShadowRage>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/components/libnkgnomevfs.so', which is also in package mozilla-firefox
[05:41] <delltony> i'm trying to compile it with libmp3lame support so i can use it in conjuction with mencoder
[05:41] <nickrud> delltony, compile, right?
[05:41] <ShadowRage> that's the error
[05:41] <Edgan> stryderjzw: the font server
[05:41] <stryderjzw> Edgan: o, X font server... makes sense
[05:41] <bob2> ShadowRage: did you ever use backports or not?
[05:41] <ShadowRage> nope
[05:41] <bob2> if so, you get to keep both pieces
[05:41] <nowen> How can I make "open with" selection, permanent?
[05:42] <bob2> then just put firefox on hold in aptitude or synaptic
[05:42] <bob2> and continue the update
[05:42] <nickrud> delltony, did you notice I have no sources in my sources.list (pun intended)
[05:42] <ShadowRage> bob2: what are backports?
[05:42] <bob2> ShadowRage: nevermind
[05:42] <ShadowRage> k
[05:43] <bob2> and even if you are frustrated, swearing here again will get you banned, not helped
[05:43] <nickrud> delltony, but with those repositories, do an apt-cache search lame | grep lame
[05:43] <ShadowRage> bob2: I'll disable firefox atm
[05:43] <delltony> nick yes i did
[05:43] <bob2> ShadowRage: no, put it on hold
[05:43] <stryderjzw> Edgan: I can't find xfs... hmmmmmmm
[05:43] <delltony> i added the deb-src to that and i stated that very thing to you
[05:44] <ShadowRage> too late, damn
[05:44] <ShadowRage> bob2: I can continue it later, right?
[05:44] <bob2> ShadowRage: I have no idea what you've done now
[05:44] <ShadowRage> I simply unmarked bob2
[05:44] <ShadowRage> er
[05:44] <ShadowRage> I simply unmarked firefox
[05:44] <ShadowRage> for now
[05:44] <agnes> hmmm. what package is "network-admin" in?
[05:44] <agnes> or how could I find out?
[05:44] <nickrud> delltony, no offence, but there are two things I never do: networking and compiling, because nearly everyone knows more than i do ;)
[05:45] <ShadowRage> I'll reinstall it later when there's a less chance of it being bitchy
[05:45] <ShadowRage> er, sorry
[05:45] <delltony> gotta start somwhere man
[05:46] <delltony> i have done compiles and all before just wasn't sure how to do it on debian done it on gentoo and all many of times
[05:46] <delltony> in any case i believe i need this liblame-dev - LAME Ain't an MP3 Encoder
[05:46] <stryderjzw> hey, i'm in GRUB and how do I make it text-mode boot?  i forgot
[05:46] <bob2> delltony: what are you trying to do?
[05:47] <bob2> stryderjzw: you can't, easily
[05:47] <lexxan> I didn't know grub had a gui thingy
[05:47] <bob2> stryderjzw: unless you mean single-user mode?
[05:47] <lexxan> You mean no menus??
[05:47] <stryderjzw> yeah
[05:47] <bob2> lexxan: he/she presumably means "boot ubuntu without X"
[05:47] <bob2> stryderjzw: then append 1 to the kernel command line
[05:47] <ShadowRage> bob2: does that sound alright?
[05:48] <stryderjzw> thx bob2
[05:48] <ShadowRage> bob2: I unmarked it for upgrades at the moment
[05:48] <ShadowRage> bob2: it's conflicting
[05:48] <bob2> ShadowRage: I don't know what that means, I've never used synaptic
[05:48] <bob2> ShadowRage: if it means "hold this version", then that's fine
[05:48] <ShadowRage> it means, "dont upgrade, dont bother"
[05:48] <dazzed> np: 311 - Light Years at 128kbps [0:09 of 2:28]
[05:48] <agnes> *cough*.. any leads on which package network-admin is in?
[05:49] <ShadowRage> and OW, my head.
[05:49] <crimsun> agnes: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=network-admin&searchmode=searchword&case=insensitive&version=hoary&arch=i386
[05:49] <delltony> bob2, trying to in a nutshell get mencoder to work so i can convert some of my "yes i bought them" dvds to xvid see i do alot of traveling and its a pain to lug around a bunch of dvds and all where i could make a dvd of say 4 dvds in xvid and cut down on space
[05:49] <agnes> crimsun: thank you so much
[05:50] <delltony> but i need to recompile mplayer for libmp3lame support and the alike
[05:50] <bob2> dazzed: please turn that off
[05:50] <stryderjzw> does X stop booting by iteself often?  man, this is frustrating.  I really need the computer tonite
[05:50] <bob2> delltony: you don't need to compile anything for tihs
[05:50] <delltony> cool now you tell me :)
[05:50] <dazzed> bob2: i was just testing something dont get your panties in a bunch :)
[05:51] <bodaciousb> how do i make sure im not running a default firewall?
[05:51] <bob2> bodaciousb: there is no default firewall
[05:51] <bodaciousb> bob2, allrighty then
[05:51] <lexxan> Does warcraft 3 run on linux
[05:51] <bob2> lexxan: perhaps in winex
[05:51] <bob2> lexxan: ask transgaming.com
[05:51] <delltony> bob2, if you don't mind a good tutorial on this would be benifical. only thing i have found with a google search is a gentoo howto and i keep getting mplayer not compiled with libmp3lame support when i do as the guide states
[05:51] <bob2> dazzed: make sure it doesn't happen again
[05:52] <dazzed> bob2: calm down...its no big deal...its just an IRC chat
[05:52] <bob2> delltony: my mplayer is compiled with lame support
[05:52] <bob2> dazzed: blah blah blah
[05:52] <delltony> for encoding?
[05:52] <dazzed> bob2: you all of a sudden turned soooo particular lately...
[05:53] <bob2> because this channel is getting worse and worse
[05:53] <stryderjzw> man, linux can't be this hard
[05:53] <gardion> Anyone know if an "enterprise edition" of unbuntu will ever come out?  Ie specialized towards servers?
[05:53] <dazzed> bob2: its fine...people come in and ask questions and the regulars stay...no prob if i advertised a song in here
[05:53] <dazzed> one time
[05:53] <dazzed> :)
[05:53] <bob2> gardion: Ubuntu as it stands is an excellent server system
[05:53] <dazzed> bob2: currently ... hoary is excellent server system?
[05:53] <Edgan> bob2: It needs a little more work to be an excellent server system
[05:54] <lexxan> If you select server when you install it.. no desktop crap installed.. why not
[05:54] <bob2> dazzed: indeed
[05:54] <bob2> Edgan: e.g.?
[05:54] <dazzed> bob2: do you read the forums ever?
[05:54] <pztak> is there a mytunes/ourtunes equivalent for linux?
[05:54] <bob2> dazzed: hell no
[05:54] <gardion> bob2: Well, What I'd like to see a more integrated server system.  ie a common authentication for samba, nfs, and opengroupware
[05:54] <bob2> pztak: best to explain what it is...
[05:54] <dazzed> bob2: you probably should read server seection
[05:54] <lexxan> though I'd be using freebsd anyway :P
[05:54] <Edgan> bob2: software raid support only being 3/4 done
[05:54] <bob2> gardion: you mean you want gui wizards?
[05:54] <gardion> bob2: That would be nice as well.
[05:54] <bob2> dazzed: from my random sampling of the forums, very little of use gets discussed
[05:54] <delltony> 77 audio & 188 video codecs
[05:54] <delltony> File not found: 'frameno.avi'
[05:54] <delltony> Failed to open frameno.avi
[05:54] <delltony> MPlayer was compiled without libmp3lame support i'm confused bob2
[05:55] <Edgan> bob2: A few more server packages could be in main, like squirrelmail
[05:55] <pztak> sorry, its a program that lets you access itunes music that is shared on the network.. search all of the files, and download whichever ones you want
[05:55] <gardion> But the main work is getting everything to work together.
[05:55] <gardion> but wizzards are nice.
[05:55] <dazzed> bob2: ok...but my oppinion is that ubuntu has the opporitunity to be an excellent server system....def. not tehre yet
[05:55] <_agnes> hmmm..
[05:55] <bob2> Edgan: it's horribly insecure, I doubt that will ever happen
[05:55] <_agnes> OK, last question.. how do I disable a service?\
[05:55] <Edgan> bob2: What would you suggest?
[05:55] <bob2> dazzed: then please discuss it in a place people with clue hang out, like the mailing lists
[05:55] <bob2> Edgan: I don't know of any non-crap webmail systems
[05:55] <QMario> Cowlike, yes I'm using Samba
[05:56] <dazzed> bob2: im just saying...you cant say that if its not
[05:56] <bob2> dazzed: yes, I can
[05:56] <dazzed> bob2: but if you believe it
[05:56] <Edgan> bob2: webmail is a must
[05:56] <dazzed> then go for it
[05:56] <bob2> ubuntu is working amazingly well on my mail/web server
[05:56] <bob2> perhaps because I know how to admin a unix machine
[05:56] <dazzed> bob2: it just makes you look like a fool :)
[05:56] <Edgan> haha
[05:56] <bob2> it seems you guys are saying it needs to be easier, not better
[05:56] <dazzed> not saying that you do
[05:56] <bob2> jesus, be quiet
[05:56] <FunnyLookinHat> anyone know why Totem and VLC both can't seem to play a .wmv?
[05:56] <bcowan> there any rsync servers with the warty iso on them?
[05:57] <dazzed> dont make stupid comments then
[05:57] <bob2> FunnyLookinHat: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:57] <lexxan> FunnyLookinHat, You got w32codecs installed?
[05:57] <bob2> dazzed: don't be such a gimp
[05:57] <bob2> bcowan: yeah, cdimage.ubuntu.com
[05:57] <dazzed> only towards people that have no courtesey
[05:57] <QMario> Cowlike?
[05:57] <FunnyLookinHat> lexxan, most likely not...
[05:57] <gp_aaron> FunnyLookinHat, ususally that is a sign that it is a unsupported wmv, for me some work, some dont
[05:57] <bcowan> thanks bob2
[05:57] <lexxan> Goto that link he just said
[05:57] <revelater> is there any video editing software in synaptic?
[05:57] <gp_aaron> kino
[05:58] <Cowlike> QMario: sorry, was in other channel. i'm afraid i don't know the answer. not a samba guru
[05:58] <revelater> kino?
[05:58] <gp_aaron> yes
[05:58] <benplaut> :gp_
[05:58] <Cowlike> try joining #samba
[05:58] <benplaut> woops
[05:58] <benplaut> never mind
[05:58] <gp_aaron> never used it but I hear it is a fairly good video editer
[05:58] <lexxan> bob2, Do you know the locations where I can edit my gnome menu?
[05:59] <bob2> lexxan: no
[05:59] <revelater> can it hadle avi also?
[05:59] <p0m> lexxan: applications:///
[05:59] <revelater> ohh
[05:59] <bob2> delltony: get marillat's mplayer
[05:59] <bob2> delltony: or just use thoggen
[05:59] <lexxan> p0m, Doesn't do anything for me ;/
[05:59] <p0m> Err, take away the last /
[05:59] <charles> can i get a copy of nigger linux too?
[05:59] <lexxan> two doesn't work for me :(
[06:00] <gp_aaron> p0m, do you know how to add items to computer:///
[06:00] <charles> I WANT NIGGER LINUX!!!!
[06:00] <charles> I WANT NIGGER LINUX!!!!
[06:00] <charles> I WANT NIGGER LINUX!!!!
[06:00] <p0m> lexxan: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[06:00] <charles> me?
[06:00] <fsapo> wth?
[06:00] <p0m> gp_aaron: No, sorry.
[06:00] <lexxan> p0m, 5.04
[06:00] <Nalioth> how misguided
[06:00] <revelater> charles: it may be a while befor nigger linux is realesed
[06:00] <charles> lol
[06:00] <charles> this is nigger linux
[06:01] <Nalioth> perhaps charles already uses it
[06:01] <p0m> lexxan: There's a post on the forum about a program to do it, give me a second, I'll find it.
[06:01] <bob2> nickoli: my apologies
[06:01] <revelater> never herd of nigger linux.. is it all black? :P
[06:01] <lexxan> p0m, I know that program.. It doesn't list the entry i need to remove :(
[06:01] <bob2> enough
[06:01] <nickoli> bob2 so whats a good prog
[06:01] <bob2> nickoli: for what?
[06:01] <lexxan> Enemy Territory put an "other" category on my menu =[
[06:02] <nickoli> bob2 cd buringing k3b keeps crashing on me
[06:02] <killapop> raghu: hi
[06:02] <lexxan> I just wish i could right click and delete ;/
[06:02] <bob2> nickoli: nautilus works fine for me
[06:02] <p0m> lexxan: Strange.
[06:02] <nickoli> bob2 i cant get that to do audio cds
[06:02] <Nalioth> lexxan see or google the ubuntu wiki for "gnome menu editor"
[06:02] <bob2> nickoli: oh well
[06:02] <gp_aaron> lexxan, wget -c http://frankandjacq.com/ubuntuguide/smeg_0.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[06:02] <gp_aaron> sudo dpkg -i smeg_0.5-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[06:03] <bob2> I wouldn't be downloading .debs from random people on IRC
[06:03] <Nalioth> lexxan, there are links to several (all developemental)
[06:03] <Nalioth> bob2 i second that motion
[06:03] <gp_aaron> its from ubuntuguide.org
[06:03] <msacco> Evening all.
[06:03] <revelater> what about audio editors?
[06:03] <bob2> yes, I wouldn't download packages from ubuntuguide either
[06:03] <gp_aaron> I just copied the exact post
[06:03] <Nalioth> revelater, audacity?
[06:03] <bob2> nor ubuntuforums
[06:03] <bob2> revelater: sweep is nice, too
[06:03] <gp_aaron> it is the gnome menu editor
[06:03] <gp_aaron> works fine for me
[06:03] <revelater> Nalioth, can audacity splice?
[06:03] <Nalioth> revelater, yes
[06:04] <Nalioth> revelater, audacity.sourceforge.net
[06:04] <bob2> gp_aaron: how would you know if it had installed a ssh server on a high port on your machine?
[06:04] <benplaut> relevator: search ubuntuforums for instructions to get it to work- it's a bit finicky
[06:04] <bob2> gp_aaron: or if it had emailed your password to someone in new zealand?
[06:04] <revelater> Nalioth, can i synaptic it?
[06:04] <Nalioth> revelater, not sure, i havent tried
[06:04] <benplaut> relevater: yes
[06:05] <msacco> I'm seeking help installing ubuntu on a mac.  Anyone care to lend a hand?
[06:05] <Nalioth> msacco, mac user here
[06:05] <gp_aaron> bob2, personally on the box I installed it on, it really doens't matter, and second I changed my password weekly
[06:05] <bob2> gp_aaron: that doesn't help if your machine has been compromised
[06:05] <bob2> msacco: best to just ask your question
[06:06] <msacco> Nalioth: I bought a second harddrive, used the Guided partition to use the whole drive, but the computer just keeps booting into osx.
[06:06] <lexxan> gp_aaron, That works fine except it doesn't display the "other" menu I have.
[06:06] <gp_aaron> oh
[06:06] <msacco> hitting option key on boot shows the other drive (penguin icon).
[06:06] <gp_aaron> sorry I dont know then
[06:07] <Nalioth> msacco can you hold the "alt-option" key upon power up for the open firmware boot menu?
[06:07] <lexxan> bob2, Can you ban ppl from #ubuntu-doc ? charles is in there now.
[06:07] <msacco> I click on it, see the yaboot menu (I'm assuming l for linux, x for mac), but hitting l just takes me to the hard drive icons again
[06:07] <gijosh> I upgraded to hoary.  How do I go back to warty's gnome theme?  Also, how do I go back to the old font?
[06:07] <Nalioth> msacco, what kind of mac are we talkin about?
[06:07] <msacco> power g5
[06:08] <bob2> lexxan: I can't, unfortunately, but I'm trying to find someone who can
[06:08] <lexxan> bob2, thanks
[06:08] <Huey> how do i see what files a particular package touched/added/
[06:08] <Huey> ?
[06:08] <bob2> dpkg -L packagename
[06:08] <lexxan> Huey, Synaptic or dpkg -L
[06:08] <Nalioth> msacco, so when you power up and hold the alt-option key, you see the bootable images of all your system, you clik the penguin and then click "l" and it takes you back to the alt-option boot screen?
[06:09] <msacco> ok, held option, see two hdd icons, one for mac, one for linux
[06:09] <msacco> yes
[06:09] <msacco> only the graphics look weird, like the bit depth drops from 24 to 8 or something
[06:09] <Nalioth> msacco, and when u click the penguin, it takes you back to open firmware..
[06:10] <msacco> click on penguin, see First Stage Ubuntu text menu
[06:10] <msacco> enter "l", back to two hdd icons
[06:10] <Nalioth> msacco, that is weird
[06:10] <Nalioth> i've never heard of yaboot sending you back to open firmware
[06:11] <msacco> :) I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks so!  I tried a ubuntu disk and a kubuntu disk, so I don't think the install is messed up.
[06:11] <bob2> it could do that if you broke the yaboot setup
[06:11] <Nalioth> perhaps a boot from the live ubuntu ppc disk, a quick look at your yaboot.conf and see wtf?
[06:11] <msacco> I never got to set it up though?  How do I access the yaboot.conf file, isn't it on the linux part?
[06:12] <fsapo> somebody could help me please? i m stuck here trying to install transcode.. i get this: Depends: libvorbis0 (>= 1.0rc3-1) but it is not installable
[06:12] <krazeivan> have a quick question
[06:12] <fsapo> any ideas?
[06:12] <Nalioth> msacco, you'll need to boot from a live ppc ubuntu disk
[06:12] <msacco> got one.  one sec
[06:12] <Nalioth> fsapo, are your repositories in order?
[06:13] <krazeivan> following the wiki on ndiswrapper but i have AMD64 and when im doing make deb i get this error
[06:13] <krazeivan> dpkg-gencontrol: error: current build architecture amd64 does not appear in package's list (i386)
[06:13] <fsapo> Nalioth, i think so
[06:13] <msacco> booting...
[06:13] <krazeivan> and returns error 2
[06:13] <gp_aaron> nite all
[06:13] <gp_aaron> opps wrong one
[06:13] <krazeivan> where can i change the build arch?
[06:13] <Nalioth> fsapo, you may have to have apt build the libvorbis0 from source
[06:14] <tractor> if I have a .deb file, how can I install it?
[06:14] <msacco> ok, boot prompt
[06:14] <fsapo> Nalioth, how do i do it?
[06:14] <fsapo> tractor, dpkg -i file.deb
[06:14] <Nalioth> fsapo "man apt-get" read about building from source
[06:14] <angel12> has anyone here gotten an orinoco wifi card working in hoary? i am going to follow whats in the wiki when my upgrade is finished (warty to hoary)
[06:14] <revelater> i need to make a link to a directory, how doi  do it, it isn't letting me...
[06:14] <bob2> krazeivan: ... you can't install i386 packages on amd64
[06:14] <tractor> fsapo, thank you
[06:14] <krazeivan> right
[06:14] <krazeivan> its source
[06:14] <bob2> krazeivan: er
[06:14] <krazeivan> trying to build
[06:15] <bob2> krazeivan: you know you'll need a 64-bit windows ndis driver, right?
[06:15] <krazeivan> yeah
[06:15] <krazeivan> sawthem on the forums
[06:15] <bob2> ouch
[06:15] <bob2> so, why are you building it at all?
[06:15] <revelater> how do i create a link to a directory?
[06:15] <krazeivan> i cant find a amd64 prebuild
[06:15] <lexxan> ln -s
[06:15] <bob2> revelater: you can only make symlinks, ln -s
[06:15] <Nalioth> revelater, "man ln"
[06:15] <msacco> now..I saw something online along the likes of "cd-linux kernel=/dev/<disk>"?
[06:16] <revelater> ln -s gives me a file
[06:16] <Nalioth> y'all don't pass out fish, teach these folks TO fish
[06:16] <bob2> revelater: it makes a symlink
[06:16] <bob2> krazeivan: edit debian/control, change 'Architecture: i386' to 'Architecture: any'
[06:16] <helio7> has anyone successfully updated gpg to v1.4.1 ?
[06:16] <bwb> hey.. having problems configuring a simple samba file server....
[06:16] <bwb> just want users to be able to login under their unix user names (tho I
[06:16] <bwb>           did add entries with smbpasswd)
[06:16] <Nalioth> linux is all about learning
[06:16] <Niterider> hello
[06:16] <bwb> and access shares
[06:16] <krazeivan> ah!
[06:16] <krazeivan> thnks :)
[06:16] <bwb> from a windows xp client it prompts for username/passwd
[06:16] <bwb> but just says share is inacessible
[06:16] <bwb>  even if it is a root (browseing?) path (ie \\bree)
[06:16] <bwb> any ideas?
[06:16] <lexxan> bwb, You have to setup the conf properly..
[06:16] <Niterider> what repo do i add to get a jre in hoary
[06:17] <lexxan> bwb.. lemme get link
[06:17] <Nalioth> msacco, how we doin?
[06:17] <krazeivan> damn
[06:17] <krazeivan> same thing
[06:17] <msacco> I'm at boot
[06:17] <Nalioth> ?? restricted
[06:17] <[uhelp] > restricted: To find out more about java, dvd playing, codecs etc. see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[06:17] <krazeivan> does make deb rewrite the file?
[06:17] <Nalioth> Niterider, see what uhelp said above
[06:17] <msacco> fans are starting to go crazy
[06:17] <Niterider> k  ty
[06:17] <bwb> lexxan: k... this is actually on a debian (testing) server... but figured ubuntu ppl might know
[06:18] <bwb> lexxan: I've read through the samba 3 howto (the official one) and couldnt' find anything
[06:18] <lexxan> bwb, you could always install swat heh
[06:18] <Nalioth> msacco, when you achieve takeoff speed , we'll be watching
[06:18] <bwb> lexxan: swat?
[06:18] <lexxan> web config
[06:18] <lexxan> just apt-get it and browse to localhost:901
[06:19] <msacco> Nalioth: so what do I type at boot: prompt?
[06:19] <Parkway> Anyone know why I would get a "bash: cvs: command not found" with the following "cvs -d `pwd`/CVS co at76c503a" ?
[06:19] <bwb> lexxan: k i'll try that, thanks
[06:19] <krazeivan> you need to install cvs
[06:19] <bwb> lexxan: any idea offhand tho.. it's pretty weird
[06:19] <krazeivan> or its not in your path
[06:19] <Predius> #apt-get install cvs
[06:19] <Parkway> hrmm ok
[06:19] <lexxan> bwb, It's just a setting in ur config i'm pretty sure
[06:19] <lexxan> /etc/samba/smb.conf
[06:20] <fsapo> damit i cant install this shit :(
[06:20] <lexxan> [homes]
[06:20] <lexxan>        comment = Home Directories
[06:20] <lexxan>        browseable = yes
[06:20] <lexxan> you need something like that
[06:20] <bob2> fsapo: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[06:20] <bob2> fsapo: if you're trying to use backports or marillat's archive, it probably won't work
[06:20] <lexxan> What are you installing fsapo?
[06:20] <fsapo> bob2, i have the libvorbis installed
[06:21] <fsapo> lexxan, transcode
[06:21] <lexxan> god i love my new intellimouse
[06:21] <revelater> nothing i do is creating a link with directorys
[06:21] <bob2> fsapo: that's not the point
[06:21] <bob2> fsapo: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[06:21] <Parkway> Danke Krazeivan and Predius!
[06:21] <fsapo> bob2, but it says that my versin dont match the requirements or something like it
[06:21] <bob2> revelater: what are you *really* trying to do?
[06:21] <Nalioth> msacco, sorry but i dont know the exact details, but you'll need to mount your HD with linux on it as read and write
[06:21] <krazeivan> yw :)
[06:21] <bob2> fsapo: yes, I know.  stop ignoring what I'm saying and paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood.
[06:21] <msacco> I typed rescue-power4
[06:21] <bob2> fsapo: no one can help you until you do.
[06:21] <bob2> msacco: you do not have a power4.
[06:21] <msacco> it's loading kernel now
[06:21] <Nalioth> msacco, that may not work due to permissions, so you may have to chroot to your HD linux
[06:21] <bob2> unless you have a g5
[06:22] <revelater> bob2: i have a folder that has all of my music files, but it is in a hidden folder, and i do not want to move it, so i must link it so other programs can easily see it
[06:22] <msacco> I have a G5
[06:22] <bob2> revelater: "hidden folder"?
[06:22] <revelater> with the . in front
[06:22] <bob2> revelater: ln -s /path/to/music/dir/ ~/music/
[06:22] <fsapo> bob2, i just commented the hoary lines but i cant install the libvordbis package anyway
[06:22] <Nalioth> bob2 i'm the one with the ancient G3 iBook   :)
[06:22] <a_monkey> anyone mac os x'ers here use missingmediaburner to burn their install cd?
[06:23] <bob2> fsapo: you're doing it wrong
[06:23] <bob2> fsapo: commend out the two bottom lines, uncomment the top two
[06:23] <Nalioth> a_monkey, i never found it to work
[06:23] <fsapo> bob2, ok.. but i already have the ubuntu version for the libvorbis
[06:23] <bob2> fsapo: yes, and you're trying to install a broken version of transcode
[06:23] <fsapo> bob2, but transcode is "unstalable"
[06:24] <revelater> bob2: it creates a file, not a folder though....
[06:24] <bob2> revelater: dude
[06:24] <bob2> revelater: it makes a symlink
[06:24] <bob2> revelater: this is what you're trying to do
[06:24] <Nalioth> fsapo its installable, i did it yesterday
[06:24] <fsapo> bob2, updating the list
[06:24] <bob2> fsapo: no, it's "uninstallable".  now paste the output of "apt-cache policy transcode" to #flood.
[06:25] <fsapo> bob2, ok, just wait i m updating
[06:26] <msacco> what are the device names for SATA drives?  When ubuntu installed, it said sdg but the rescue system says special device sdg# does not exist
[06:26] <Nalioth> msacco, have ya tried plain vanilla hd*?
[06:26] <bob2> /dev/sdX, find X by trial and error or examing "dmesg" output
[06:28] <bwb> damnit can't connect to swat for some reason
[06:28] <msacco> how weird.  hda is my cdrom?
[06:28] <msacco> just mounted it.
[06:28] <a_monkey> well... who's successfully used missingmediaburner?
[06:28] <bob2> that sounds more like a #macos question
[06:28] <a_monkey> bob2: it was
[06:28] <Nalioth> bob2 it is
[06:29] <a_monkey> nobody knows about mmb there
[06:29] <Nalioth> a_monkey, there are other opensource burning softwares that will do the same thing
[06:29] <a_monkey> lots of ubuntu'ers have used mmb
[06:29] <krazeivan> bob2 sorry to bug ya but i canged the arc and it rewrote it to i386 is there a main template somewhere i need to change?
[06:30] <bob2> krazeivan: I don't know, it depends on the source package
[06:30] <krazeivan> ok
[06:30] <bob2> grep around for i386 in the debian/ dir
[06:33] <msacco> found it, /dev/sdf3 is "/" of ubuntu
[06:33] <lexxan> Anyone know a way to mount a bin & cue file or if i convert it to an iso
[06:33] <lexxan> ?
[06:33] <JustOneIt> Hi! :)
[06:33] <a_monkey> let's just say that i have to use missingmediaburner
[06:33] <a_monkey> how do i do it?
[06:34] <bob2> lexxan: use bchunk to ocnvert it to a useful format
[06:34] <|iceman|> ne1 know of an audio editor that work with mp3 files
[06:34] <a_monkey> what driver, and write mode
[06:34] <msacco> so now, I chroot to /mnt/sdf3, and then is the command "ybin -v"?
[06:34] <a_monkey> (n00b)
[06:34] <Nalioth> lexxan, use binchunker
[06:34] <bob2> a_monkey: dude, try a macos channel or mailing list or whatever
[06:34] <JustOneIt> is it possible to configure a user to start with another wm (different from gnome)?
[06:34] <bob2> JustOneIt: yeah
[06:34] <lexxan> Ok so once its an iso.. how can i mount it?
[06:34] <lexxan> I don't have any cds
[06:34] <bob2> lexxan: come back and ask when you've converted it
[06:35] <lexxan> It is converted with bchunk
[06:35] <Nalioth> a_monkey go to versiontracker and get you a working software
[06:35] <JustOneIt> bob2: :) would ya help me to do it?
[06:35] <bob2> lexxan: sudo mount -o loop -t iso9660 ./foo.iso /mnt/
[06:35] <bob2> JustOneIt: just tell us what you want to do
[06:35] <lexxan> cool thx
[06:36] <Nalioth> |iceman|, audacity
[06:36] <|iceman|> kewl... good for trimming, fades, etd?
[06:36] <Nalioth> |iceman|, you bet
[06:36] <JustOneIt> bob2: ok... :) i have a user who works with gnome... I've just created another user and i would like to let him start with icewm...
[06:36] <lexxan> bob2, Is there a special way to unmount.. i'm getting umount: it seems /upstairs is mounted multiple times
[06:37] <bob2> JustOneIt: echo exec icewm > ~/.xsession
[06:37] <bob2> JustOneIt: as that user.  then get them to select "default session" or whatever it is in gdm
[06:37] <bob2> lexxan: is it mounted multiple times?
[06:37] <lexxan> Well i only mounted it once lol.
[06:37] <JustOneIt> bob2: ok... :)
[06:37] <lexxan> and no matter how many times i hit umount /upstairs it sticks lol
[06:38] <dross> Okay, I plug in my pen drive, and the device isn't created. What is wrong?
[06:38] <dross> I've been seeing this all over the forums?
[06:38] <dross> is it a bug?
[06:38] <crimsun> as in /dev/sda doesn't exist?
[06:38] <msacco> OK, I ran ybin and recieved the error "unable to find OpenFirmware path for boot=/dev/sdg2"
[06:38] <SeamusLP> dross:  I believe you're going to need to add a line to your fstab
[06:38] <angel12> is the orinoco support built in the stock hoary kernel?
[06:38] <dross> correct
[06:39] <crimsun> dross: and sd_mod is loaded?
[06:39] <dross> mmm
[06:39] <bob2> dross: is it formatted?  are you using an ubuntu kernel?
[06:39] <bob2> if you're using a custom kernel, all bets are off.
[06:39] <SeamusLP> dross: ah, the device isn't created... nevermind
[06:39] <dross> crimsun: blast. thats the problem
[06:39] <lexxan> Well that mount thing really borked my machine.. reboot time
[06:39] <dross> crimsun: what does GNOME use to mount it automatically?
[06:40] <crimsun> dross: gnome-volume-manager
[06:40] <dross> crimsun: I've been using KDE lately.. so no gnome magic :)
[06:40] <synd> xfce4 : )
[06:40] <JustOneIt> bob2: thanx! :)
[06:40] <angel12> is the orinoco support built in the stock hoary kernel?
[06:40] <msacco> how do I find out the openfirmware path?
[06:41] <dross> synd: sorry, I require advanced desktop for corporate usage
[06:41] <synd> say what?
[06:41] <dross> synd: I require a Desktop which has the ability of setting policies
[06:41] <dross> synd: which KDE has in the policy manager
[06:42] <synd> hmm
[06:42] <kingsley> Will someone here please try the following test and tell me if your xfstt has port 7101? ( netstat -l ; netstat -plunt ; lsof -i -n ) | grep 7101
[06:42] <dross> synd: its the only reason I choose to run KDE.
[06:42] <synd> KDE feels like it's made by Fischer-Price
[06:43] <dross> synd: corporate conversion == money for me :)
[06:43] <angel12> lets not get into kde-vs-gnome tonight please
[06:43] <lexxan> When i used KDE konquerer or whatever crashed every time i used it ;/
[06:43] <dross> synd: well.. the default theme makes me want to puke :)
[06:43] <lexxan> The sickest default is how huge the taskbar is
[06:43] <synd> what corporation?
[06:43] <lexxan> looks disgusting
[06:43] <dross> synd: plastik is okay... but I require tweaking :) and the gtk-manager-qt program thing
[06:43] <fsapo> bob2, please take a look at #flood
[06:44] <dross> lexxan: Thank you! :) /me sizes down the big bloated bar
[06:44] <synd> dross: i just hate the damn huge fonts
[06:44] <synd> its seems its for like the elderly
[06:44] <dross> I thought I was the only one who thought the KDE bar was insanely huge
[06:44] <lexxan> huh?
[06:44] <lexxan> o
[06:44] <angel12> dross synd, lets not get into this
[06:44] <lexxan> I put it on tiny
[06:44] <dross> synd: I convert companies
[06:45] <dross> lexxan: I do ;)
[06:45] <crimsun> fsapo: which debian-marillat repo are you using?
[06:45] <Ksmurf> Anyone have advice for getting an Audigy 2 Soundcard working?
[06:45] <dross> right now.. I'm converting a bunch of baptists to Linuxism
[06:45] <synd> dross: i see
[06:45] <crimsun> Ksmurf: what doesn't work? (I presume you're using Horay)
[06:45] <msacco> Thanks all for getting me this far.  I gotta go to bed.  When I get more free time I'll sign on here again.
[06:45] <crimsun> (Hoary^)
[06:45] <synd> dross: so youre a linux "pope"
[06:46] <fsapo> crimsun, bob2 said to comment the marillat entries O.o
[06:46] <angel12> lol, ha, linux pope
[06:46] <dross> synd: hehe
[06:46] <synd> ive converted many to OSX
[06:46] <dross> synd: well, I'm going to be launching a linux compaign
[06:46] <Ksmurf> Crimsun Yes Hoary.... My sound card is not loaded.. and I'm a noob
[06:46] <synd> only a few to linux..
[06:46] <dross> synd: :) I love MacOSX
[06:46] <dross> synd: its the only way to design ;)
[06:46] <crimsun> Ksmurf: cat /proc/asound/cards
[06:46] <synd> dross: my absolute favorite OS, period
[06:46] <synd> do you have Tiger?
[06:47] <dross> synd: *grin*
[06:47] <dross> synd: why do you ask? :)
[06:47] <bwb> hey does anyone know if swat can have smbd reload the config file (vs. restarting smbd)
[06:47] <Ksmurf> 0 [Audigy2        ] : Audigy2 - Sound Blaster Audigy2
[06:47] <Ksmurf>                      Sound Blaster Audigy2 (rev.4) at 0xdf00, irq 21
[06:47] <dross> synd: I barrows it from the Chinese ;)
[06:47] <crimsun> Ksmurf: it actually is loaded ;)
[06:47] <icebalm> <-- will have OSX soon, mini is coming
[06:47] <synd> dross: doesnt everyone? :p
[06:47] <Ksmurf> lol
[06:48] <dross> synd: they have every software pirated first
[06:48] <crimsun> Ksmurf: please paste the output of ,,amixer'' onto http://pastebin.com
[06:48] <Ksmurf> then why is it not working... rofl
[06:48] <dross> synd: yes, but the Chinese always have the goods to test out before buying ;)
[06:48] <Ksmurf> ..amixer.. ok
[06:48] <synd> thats true
[06:48] <dross> I used to have 5 killer g4 servers :/
[06:48] <synd> ooo
[06:49] <dross> now they are closet machines because they have no idea what to do with them :) oh well.  I would say email.. but I'm creating a video for an admin at a ded center :)
[06:51] <kompulsive> all you need is a little hustle.
[06:51] <angel12> bwb, Mcmurry in abiline tx
[06:52] <kompulsive> especially if you're still living at home! there's no rent to pay ;-)
[06:52] <fsapo> crimsun, i tried it.. i end up with  uninstalable dependecies
[06:52] <crimsun> Ksmurf: unmute the 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack'
[06:52] <icebalm> angel12: linux tablet sounds cool tho, how does the stylus work? just like an emulated mouse?
[06:53] <angel12> icebalm, then i am sure you will like it, im sure if i knew it i would have liked it. the stylus works just like it would in winxp, took a lot of hacking to get it to work though
[06:53] <angel12> icebalm, i guess you could call it emulated mouse
[06:53] <kompulsive> what's going on with winxp these days anyhow? my XP box went nutty.
[06:53] <bwb> angel12: coo
[06:54] <pdk001> hi
[06:54] <angel12> yeah, my little bro got a virus on his xp computer so i am setting it up with ubuntu, not the best
[06:54] <kompulsive> it's doing some crazy thing where it won't accept any drivers except these presets that windows forces it to use.
[06:54] <angel12> kompulsive, use linux
[06:54] <dross> angel12: I just started to convert business people to ubuntu, be happy ;)
[06:54] <kompulsive> i'm using ubuntu right now.
[06:54] <kompulsive> but i need my XP box for other things.
[06:54] <synd> kompulsive: xp = xtremely pointless.
[06:55] <crimsun> fsapo: what sort?
[06:55] <fsapo> kompulsive, just do what i did.. format your ntfs partition as reiserfs, install ubuntu and be happy
[06:55] <angel12> does anyone know if the stock hoary kernel has the orinoco wifi drivers installed?
[06:55] <dross> synd: I could think of a few good uses with xp :)
[06:55] <kompulsive> yeah, really pointless. i mean, whoever wanted to do something stupid like play games on their computer and audio/video production?
[06:55] <kompulsive> how pointless.
[06:55] <dross> synd: especially sexual type jokes.. eXtra Pu...
[06:56] <synd> i leave my gaming to my xbox
[06:56] <kompulsive> what's pointless is arguing that UNIX is "better" than macOS/windows, etc
[06:56] <dross> synd: I recall the OpenBSD joke poster with a female blow fish being exploited :)
[06:56] <synd> and my audio/video production to OSX
[06:56] <kompulsive> i use macOS, UNIX, and windows
[06:56] <kompulsive> they all have their uses.
[06:56] <synd> dross: hahah
[06:56] <kompulsive> synd; do they make WoW for the xbox?
[06:56] <fsapo> crimsun, transcode is depending on it: libvorbis0 it is already installed but the version doesnt match the transcode requirements -_-
[06:56] <angel12> kompulsive, linux/unix=stable, windows=games/media. macos=production
[06:57] <crimsun> fsapo: you're using the testing repo?
[06:57] <fsapo> crimsun, i was
[06:57] <dross> hmm 12M of updates since yesterday
[06:57] <synd> no, but if you wanna spend $1000+ to play games..which 95% of them are available on the xbox/ps2.. then i mean
[06:57] <fsapo> crimsun, but i cant install another libvorbis anyway
[06:57] <kompulsive> angel12, you won't find me arguing.
[06:57] <kompulsive> synd; 95%? that's ridiculous.
[06:57] <undre61> umm how do I know if the ati drivers work
[06:57] <crimsun> fsapo: please paste the precise dependency error(s) in #flood or on http://pastebin.com
[06:58] <kompulsive> there's not even CLOSE to as many games for xbox as there is for the PC.
[06:58] <Ksmurf> all hail crimsun the sound god/godess
[06:58] <synd> kompulsive: nonetheless, more and more developers are developing games for linux
[06:58] <crimsun> pshh
[06:58] <synd> kompulsive: of course.
[06:58] <fsapo> crimsun, ok but i ll have to update the repositories here.. its going to take a while
[06:59] <synd> kompulsive: most big production games are available on both platforms.
[06:59] <lexxan> xboxs are for people who have friends.. computer games are for loners
[06:59] <lexxan> :P
[06:59] <synd> lexxan: :D
[06:59] <Ksmurf> now for the next trick .... I'm off to try and install the nvidia driver for my card
[06:59] <lexxan> Ksmurf.. not too difficult
[06:59] <lexxan> ?? nvidia
[06:59] <[uhelp] > nvidia: to setup your xorg binary nvidia driver see - http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto -OR- http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#installnvidiadriver -ALSO- http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html
[06:59] <bcowan> I can't seem to rsync the stinkin iso...can someone post the url to the rsync i386 cd iso
[06:59] <Ksmurf> nvidia 6600 GT
[07:00] <Parkway> ?? networking
[07:00] <[uhelp] > networking[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:00] <undre61> is there one for ati??
[07:00] <Parkway> dah well
[07:00] <nickrud> ?? bugs
[07:00] <[uhelp] > bugs[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:00] <lexxan> ?? ati
[07:00] <[uhelp] > ati: To setup your xorg binary ati driver see - http://ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:00] <nickrud> ?? bugzilla
[07:00] <[uhelp] > bugzilla[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:00] <synd> wow, i love streamtuner
[07:00] <lexxan> nickrud, Why don't you think up something creative for those two :P
[07:01] <Parkway> Anyone know anything about getting a wlan up and running?  Finally got it added to the Network Manager list and it says I can activate it, but doesnt do jack ;P
[07:01] <lexxan> ?? wireless
[07:01] <[uhelp] > wireless: For listed hardware support see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards | Setup see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/WiFiHowto
[07:01] <JustOneIt> bob2: Thax... Things work great! :) Just another little question...  But I was used to gentoo... where i can find the startup scripts like sshd and so on? :)
[07:06] <nickrud> lexxan, and if someone does write one, make sure it mentions reportbug ;)
[07:06] <lexxan> nickrud, I'm sure you can create a quick 2 lines before you goto bed
[07:06] <lexxan> lol
[07:06] <nickrud> hahhahahaa
[07:06] <fsapo> danko123456, brazil.. what about you?
[07:06] <danko123456> Canada
[07:06] <cadence> i am trying to install a library for a third-party program here on my new Ubuntu setup, and when i execute the 'install.sh' in either the regular or root terminal I get an error telling me that the library doesnt exist...however It most certainly exists right before my eyes. Could anyone please tell what it is that I am doing wrong here? (Linux Newb)
[07:07] <danko123456> cool
[07:08] <danko123456> If I want a page like the pastebin on my computer, where should I look?
[07:08] <Ksmurf> Well that was cool
[07:09] <blujay> Justin: /etc/init.d
[07:09] <blujay> oops
[07:09] <blujay> JustOneIt: /etc/init.d
[07:10] <blujay> cadence: what library??
[07:10] <cadence> libborqt-6.9.0-qt2.3.so
[07:11] <Ksmurf> My limited knowledge in linux is with KDE ... Gnome seems great!  Any more noob hints for me?
[07:11] <danko123456> What do you want to do?
[07:11] <blujay> cadence: is the library not available in apt?
[07:11] <cadence> the PIM i am trying to install said that library is what i need for it
[07:11] <danko123456> Just go with it is my advice
[07:11] <danko123456> :)
[07:12] <cadence> no, its not in apt
[07:12] <JustOneIt> blujay: thanx! :)
[07:12] <Ksmurf> go with it?
[07:12] <blujay> cadence: what does install.sh do?
[07:12] <danko123456> Like, yeah, I dont know...maybe its stupid...
[07:13] <Ksmurf> shell script right?
[07:13] <fsapo> anyone here knows where i can find these deb packages: gawn and libpvm3?
[07:13] <cadence> install: cannot stat `libborqt-6.9.0-qt2.3.so': No such file or directory
[07:13] <cadence> cp: cannot stat `libborqt-6.9.0-qt2.3.so': No such file or directory
[07:13] <fsapo> gawk*
[07:13] <cadence> is what it spits out
[07:13] <blujay> cadence: and where is taht file?
[07:13] <danko123456> gawk?
[07:13] <cadence> on the desktop
[07:13] <danko123456> isnt taht standard installed?
[07:14] <blujay> cadence: and where is the install.sh script?
[07:14] <Ksmurf> thanks all for the help... off to read the starters guide
[07:14] <danko123456> bye
[07:14] <blacknyx> guys, is installing things like MPlayer still a gigantic hassle with 20 seperate things to install?
[07:14] <danko123456> cya
[07:14] <cadence> the script is with the rest of the files
[07:14] <danko123456> it nmay be, blacknyx
[07:14] <blujay> cadence: which is where?
[07:14] <blujay> blacknyx: google?
[07:14] <lexxan> blacknyx, Not if you use a package.
[07:14] <danko123456> since you ned support for restricted formats...
[07:15] <lexxan> ?? restricted
[07:15] <[uhelp] > restricted: To find out more about java, dvd playing, codecs etc. see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:15] <blacknyx> blujay: google's too vague
[07:15] <blujay> danko123456: all you need is w32codecs and totem-xine
[07:15] <danko123456> thats what I use...
[07:15] <danko123456> Xine.
[07:15] <blujay> blacknyx: google.com/search?q=ubuntu+mplayer
[07:15] <danko123456> XineUi.
[07:15] <cadence> um its all located in a directory placed on my desktop
[07:15] <danko123456> It works as good as Mplayer did for me,..
[07:15] <cadence> does it need to be launched from a specific place?
[07:15] <blujay> cadence: is there a readme?
[07:15] <danko123456> then send the install.sh to that folder.
[07:15] <blujay> cadence: or a file called "INSTALL"?
[07:16] <blacknyx> blujay:  still vague.  still doesn't answer the specific question if ubuntu has made it an easier process to install large program with lots of dependancies such as MPlayer
[07:16] <danko123456> or read what thje script does if you can understand it
[07:16] <cadence> nope so singular file called install
[07:16] <danko123456> yes, they havem blacknyx
[07:16] <blujay> blacknyx: second hit: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-21138.html
[07:16] <danko123456> not that it worked for me...
[07:16] <Raskall> can I hope that I can apt-get upgrade to get clamav 0.84 soon?
[07:16] <lexxan> blacknyx, I just gave you the link.
[07:17] <kompulsive> anyone here have much experience when it comes to intrusion detection?
[07:17] <blujay> kompulsive: looked at snort?
[07:17] <danko123456> heh, rear intrusion?
[07:17] <kompulsive> blujay; i'm totally a UNIX n00b ;-(
[07:18] <blujay> blacknyx: "is it easier" is not a very specific question either.  Read that URL I sent you, it has all the information you need (and it was the second Google hit...)
[07:18] <blujay> kompulsive: google for "snort ids"
[07:18] <kompulsive> but i have a domain now and webspace with cpanel so i'm going to have to figure out some kind of logging system/intrusion detection solution before i can start working with oscommerce
[07:18] <blujay> kompulsive: are you running your own server?
[07:18] <crimsun> fsapo: please _uncomment_ the main restricted repos
[07:18] <crimsun> fsapo: additionally, comment out the stable debian-marillat
[07:19] <crimsun> fsapo: then update, and install transcode
[07:19] <blacknyx> blujay: well since you already dont appreciate my asking a question, I figured i'd be as vague as I could.   This link isn't telling me what I didn't already know
[07:19] <fsapo> crimsun, i m downloading the gawk package.. hope it works
[07:19] <danko123456> Be more specific, blacknyx
[07:19] <blujay> blacknyx: Well, I mean, if you need to install it, there's how...so...
[07:19] <danko123456> What exactly do you mean?
[07:20] <cadence> well i opened the script up in texteditor and then pasted it into the terminal... got a new error:  /sbin/ldconfig: Can't create temporary cache file /etc/ld.so.cache~: Permission denied
[07:20] <blujay> blacknyx: if you want an easier from-the-start process, I guess you'll need to wait for breezy
[07:20] <kompulsive> blujay; no ;-( it's like VPN i'm pretty sure. i have a shared IP.
[07:20] <danko123456> not that I will have any info for you:P
[07:20] <blacknyx> danko12345:  I'm merely asking as a gentoo user wanting to go back to ubuntu bot remembering my frustration with having to install 30 components seperately for MPlayer
[07:20] <blujay> kompulsive: you should probably ask your hosting provider if they have any IDS
[07:20] <blacknyx> and not all of them having all of their dependancies so having to search for dependancies for those dependancies
[07:20] <blacknyx> so I gave up.
[07:20] <blujay> blacknyx: just use that repository, install mplyaer, and that's it.  apt takes care of dependencies for you.
[07:21] <lexxan> blacknyx, Stop being stubborn. Google is vague? Oh I know that link? it _EXPLAINS_ exactly how to install it.
[07:21] <danko123456> oh, ok...
[07:21] <blacknyx> ok ok sorry I'm not trying to be stubborn, I just kinda thought it'd be a simple answer.  I've been reading manuals for the past 5 days straight, I'm tired and want something simple.
[07:22] <fsapo> OMFG IT WORKED!
[07:22] <danko123456> well, I tried, and it was harder than in Warty, meaning the same instructions that worked in warty, do not work in hoary.
[07:22] <lexxan> It takes about 30 seconds to put in the marillat repository
[07:22] <fsapo> crimsun, installing :D
[07:22] <blujay> blacknyx: it won't take more than 5 minutes to do what it says there
[07:22] <lexxan> and apt-get update
[07:22] <danko123456> great, fsapo.
[07:22] <fsapo> crimsun, i ve commented everything but the unstable release.. and now its installing :D
[07:22] <fsapo> danko123456, man i m trying to install it for a week O_O
[07:22] <lexxan> ?? repository
[07:23] <[uhelp] > repository[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:23] <lexxan> hrm
[07:23] <danko123456> nice, fsapo.
[07:23] <fsapo> ^^
[07:23] <danko123456> but then I use xine now...
[07:23] <danko123456> Im open minded.
[07:23] <danko123456> Use anything that works.
[07:24] <fsapo> now i just need some fireworks to celebrate haha
[07:24] <danko123456> heh
[07:24] <lexxan> blacknyx, echo deb http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat unstable main| sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:24] <lexxan> then apt-get update
[07:25] <lexxan> then apt-get install mplayer-386=1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6 0
[07:25] <lexxan> as long as you have multiverse enabled.
[07:25] <lexxan> oops
[07:25] <lexxan> apt-get install mplayer-386=1:1.0-pre6-0.3ubuntu6
[07:25] <blacknyx> thanks lexxan.  I'll save that in case I decide to install ubuntu I can do it simply.
[07:25] <Anubis> menu editor adds but does not seem to remove entries
[07:26] <danko123456> all or some?
[07:26] <Anubis> huh?
[07:26] <crimsun> lexxan: except you don't want to use the unstable repo with Hoary.
[07:26] <danko123456> some dont want to lleave on mine
[07:26] <crimsun> lexxan: you want to use the testing repo with Hoary.
[07:27] <Bachus9000> OK, guys, I've got a tiny problem with xcompmgr and the gnome panel.  Basically, it's drawing the shadows regardless of whether or not I use the -C option.  I don't see this behavior with XFCE.
[07:27] <lexxan> crimsun, Ah well I should find the wiki page that says to use unstable
[07:27] <crimsun> lexxan: and fix it.
[07:27] <Anubis> now I have a doublr realplayer entry
[07:28] <danko123456> heh mine too
[07:28] <danko123456> I deleted, and it added one
[07:28] <Anubis> it won't delete
[07:28] <Ksmurf> what does gpg do?
[07:28] <danko123456> I like how OS x you just drag it off the dock, and it goes away..
[07:28] <Anubis> pgp keys
[07:28] <danko123456> maybe gnome should do that,
[07:29] <Ksmurf> ok pgp ... encrpytion or athentication?
[07:30] <Anubis> both
[07:30] <danko123456> I didnt fail one of my courses...yay...
[07:30] <danko123456> I just found out today
[07:30] <danko123456> I got a B...
[07:30] <Ksmurf> just the info transfer or on my system?
[07:30] <danko123456> not thaT it is related...
[07:30] <danko123456> I should get a life, it seems.
[07:30] <danko123456> :)
[07:31] <Raskall> where do I send a request for getting a package updated?
[07:31] <danko123456> santa:P
[07:32] <danko123456> how can I change my quit message in Gaim, or IRC?
[07:32] <mebaran151> hey
[07:32] <danko123456> hey
[07:32] <mebaran151> how can I make a bash script echo its steps
[07:33] <mebaran151> would that be echo on
[07:33] <mebaran151> jsut on the the top
[07:33] <IIIEars1> Hi - Is it possible to work with a graphical interface as root?
[07:33] <p0m> Short answer, no.
[07:33] <danko123456> Longer answer, why?
[07:34] <p0m> Heh.
[07:34] <IIIEars1> ouch - i am really struggling with the command line.
[07:34] <danko123456> Ok...
[07:34] <p0m> danko123456: In your gaim settings there should be an option for them.
[07:34] <gorilla_> why?? because bad things can potentially happen if you run X as root.
[07:35] <p0m> IIIEars1: The long answer is that Sudo is used instead of a root user.
[07:35] <danko123456> IIIEars1: http://ubuntuguide.org/#allowrootlogingnome
[07:35] <p0m> ?? SudoRoot
[07:35] <[uhelp] > sudoroot[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:35] <danko123456> This page may be it?
[07:35] <p0m> ?? RootSudo
[07:35] <[uhelp] > rootsudo[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:35] <IIIEars1> Just moving a fortune text from the desktop to /games/fortune is giving me a headache - lol
[07:35] <p0m> Weird.
[07:35] <lexxan> ?? root
[07:35] <[uhelp] > root: Root is disabled in Ubuntu by default. Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:35] <lexxan> ?? sudo
[07:35] <[uhelp] > sudo: Root is disabled in Ubuntu by default. Please see - http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:35] <danko123456> Ill tell you how exactly.
[07:35] <lexxan> heh
[07:35] <p0m> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:35] <IIIEars1> Ya-ay!
[07:35] <p0m> lexxan: Too late.
[07:35] <p0m> :)
[07:35] <danko123456> If you want, tell me file...
[07:35] <danko123456> And whatever..
[07:35] <Anubis> so my menu is just borked?
[07:35] <gorilla_> p0m, no just sudo ... for example "sudo whoami" enter your own password when prompted.
[07:36] <danko123456> Not sure, Anubis...
[07:36] <IIIEars1> lol - he needs a throttle - i question a minute maybe
[07:36] <p0m> gorilla_: Err?
[07:36] <danko123456> IIIEars1: that works?
[07:36] <Anubis> it says its deleting the entry
[07:36] <Anubis> but its still there
[07:36] <IIIEars1> fotunes-new to games/fortune
[07:36] <danko123456> thats just a gdm settings.
[07:36] <Anubis> should I kill the panel?
[07:36] <p0m> To be honest, it's rather silly to run Gnome or anything as root really.
[07:36] <danko123456> p0m: did you see taht page I had?
[07:36] <danko123456> try, Anubis
[07:37] <danko123456> it works, i guess..
[07:37] <lexxan> Anubis, I can't remove enemy-territory from my menu.. pisses me off =[
[07:37] <danko123456> Just by delfault its off.
[07:37] <fsapo> anyone here knows if those onboard winmodems works with ubuntu?
[07:37] <IIIEars1> uhelp - you are a nice bot glad you have joined #ubuntu
[07:37] <danko123456> cause more ppl dont want it that do, I guess.
[07:37] <p0m> IIIEars1: So you want to be root so you can read fortune on the desktop?
[07:38] <IIIEars1> just wanted to add new text to the screensaver (sheepish grin)
[07:38] <Anubis> amazing
[07:38] <p0m> Err.
[07:38] <danko123456> sudo mv fortunes-new /games/fortune
[07:38] <Anubis> something as simple as a menu editor
[07:38] <danko123456> but, its all case sensitive, and all, be careful
[07:38] <p0m> Why not just run the config program with sudo?
[07:38] <Anubis> why would gnome do this?
[07:38] <p0m> gnome-control-panel or something.
[07:38] <danko123456> if you are in that folder where the fortunes-new is.
[07:38] <p0m> Anubis: What's the program?
[07:39] <IIIEars1> okay - a new os hasn't helped my spelling very much - grin
[07:39] <p0m> That you're trying to remove.
[07:39] <danko123456> menu editor.
[07:39] <danko123456> pom
[07:39] <p0m> ^^
[07:39] <danko123456> It will eventally help, IIIEars1
[07:39] <danko123456> Yu cant help it...
[07:39] <mebaran151> how do I set DMA for an sda drive 9 (sata scsi)
[07:39] <mebaran151> I mean
[07:40] <mebaran151> I have a /dev/sda
[07:40] <p0m> Isn't DMA normally set in the bios?
[07:40] <mebaran151> I set it in the bios
[07:40] <danko123456> (00:40:08) ***[uhelp]  pets IIIEars1 hah
[07:40] <IIIEars1> danko123456 - Thanks
[07:40] <mebaran151> but the kernel needs to actually use it
[07:40] <danko123456> Yeah, youre welcome...
[07:40] <lexxan> mebaran151, Might wanna check out hdparm
[07:40] <danko123456> NOt familiar with the shell, eh?
[07:40] <mebaran151> hdparm
[07:40] <mebaran151> does not work
[07:40] <p0m> mebaran151: That's what I was about to suggest.
[07:40] <lexxan> ya I dunno never used sata <-- poor
[07:41] <danko123456> IIIEars1: hey, you got that page on enabling login with root?
[07:41] <mebaran151> wrong ioctl (hdparm was meant for ide drivers, not scsi based)
[07:41] <danko123456> you can log in.
[07:41] <mebaran151> do you think it might be set now
[07:41] <p0m> mebaran151: Did you try hdparm -d 1 /dev/sda9 ?
[07:41] <IIIEars1> 1 week and 1day using linux - 3 days uptime no reboots err-- could ya tell me is my computer really running? - grin
[07:41] <Raskall> Agh... someone is trying to hack into my sshd 2-3 times a day.  I am trying to boot from the LiveCD and I cant get it to boot
[07:42] <IIIEars1> IRC is scarey - the wise waiting for the unwarey.
[07:42] <mebaran151> but it reports the ioctl was inappropriate
[07:42] <mebaran151> that makes sense as I am not using an ide driver
[07:43] <mebaran151> I am using a scsi driver
[07:43] <mebaran151> under libata
[07:43] <p0m> mebaran151: But hdparm should work with sata scsi.
[07:43] <danko123456> xxviperzlairxx: did you download it?
[07:43] <Raskall> lexxan: :) I am not very afraid. Have all the latest updates and only allows pubkey-auth with 2K keys, but it's still a bit annoying that they waste resources on my server.
[07:43] <Ksmurf> is there anyway to find my critical voltages and temps in linux?
[07:43] <xxviperzlairxx> yes
[07:43] <xxviperzlairxx> and Burne dit to a CD
[07:44] <Raskall> hey hey hey.. this one has webmin open to the net.
[07:44] <danko123456> how did you download?
[07:44] <danko123456> ftp?http?torrent?
[07:44] <p0m> Ksmurf: Search for lm-sensors on the forum. There's a guide to setting it up.
[07:44] <danko123456> ?? ftp
[07:44] <[uhelp] > ftp[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:44] <xxviperzlairxx> uhh one sec ill check
[07:44] <danko123456> ?? go learn it...
[07:44] <p0m> mebaran151: try this -- for disc in `ls /dev/sd?`; do hdparm $disc; done
[07:44] <[uhelp] > go[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:45] <fsapo> Ksmurf, http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/categories.php?func=gd_show_app_list&gd_sub_app_list=37
[07:45] <p0m> fsapo: Got to make sure lm-sensors is working first :)
[07:45] <xxviperzlairxx> http
[07:45] <underlord> who do i nag to update the monodevelop package in hoary to the latest version?
[07:45] <danko123456> crimsun: is that good? could it be a checksum error?
[07:46] <Hardy`> is anyone here particularly good with setting up ALSA?
[07:46] <damnhatesyou> hello is the Unofficial Ubuntu Add-On CD from http://ubuntuguide.org  any good???
[07:46] <p0m> Got it!
[07:46] <p0m> mebaran151: sdparm
[07:46] <mebaran151> sdparm
[07:46] <mebaran151> ok
[07:46] <IIIEars1> Can i add an alias to cd to type in the the desktop or home path auto magically?
[07:46] <mebaran151> let me try it
[07:46] <danko123456> damnhatesyou: what do you mean good?
[07:46] <lexxan> ** danko
[07:46] <[uhelp] > Found 1 matches. Sorted: danko. (0.002s)
[07:46] <Hardy`> particularly, with say a compile error 1 when "make" ing the alsa driver?
[07:47] <mebaran151> p0m, not installed
[07:47] <p0m> underlord: tseng (Brandon Hale)
[07:47] <mebaran151> I got to go find IT
[07:47] <lexxan> wtf
[07:47] <p0m> mebaran151: That would be a good idea :) sdparm works mainly the same way.
[07:47] <lexxan> who is brandon hale?
[07:47] <mebaran151> it isnt in apt
[07:47] <p0m> lexxan: It's the Mono master.
[07:47] <mebaran151> what might it be part of
[07:47] <p0m> He's*
[07:47] <damnhatesyou> is it worth downloading my main linux pc does not have the net
[07:47] <xxviperzlairxx> any one have suggestiongs on how to get the LiveCD to boot?
[07:47] <lexxan> my old best friend has that name
[07:48] <danko123456> xxviperzlairxx: you know how to check the checksum md5 something?
[07:48] <lexxan> but he moved to toronto canada
[07:48] <p0m> mebaran151: sd, just search through synaptic for "scsi"
[07:48] <xxviperzlairxx> i do not
[07:48] <danko123456> k, giev me a sec, maybe I can find out.
[07:48] <p0m> xxviperzlairxx: What is the error message?
[07:48] <xxviperzlairxx> no error message, i am trying to boot the LiveCD
[07:49] <danko123456> md5sum file.iso > file.iso.md5
[07:49] <jiyuu0> damnhatesyou, the add-on cd is good for ppl who doesn't have internet
[07:49] <fsapo> anyone here knows if those onboard winmodems works with ubuntu?
[07:49] <xxviperzlairxx> I have an AMD64 so i got the 64 version (.iso) and burn it to a CD
[07:49] <danko123456> md5sum -c file.iso.md5
[07:49] <danko123456> after that.
[07:49] <danko123456> try that.
[07:49] <damnhatesyou> cool thank will it let me watch divx movies
[07:49] <p0m> mebaran151: If you can't find it, the main page for sdparm is -> http://sg.torque.net/sg/
[07:49] <jiyuu0> i'm uploading a new version now... it includes a script to install all the add-on apps... but by answer [y/n]
[07:49] <Parkway> No luck with any of the ?? wireless help.  Cant get this damn thing to work period.
[07:49] <holycow> http://dilbert.com/  <-- *gasp*
[07:49] <xxviperzlairxx> do i have to have linux for it to work?
[07:49] <holycow> i wonder what tommorrows strip is going to be
[07:49] <holycow> -_-
[07:49] <p0m> ?? sdparm
[07:49] <[uhelp] > sdparm[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:49] <mebaran151> which of these is right
[07:49] <synd> Parkway: ndiswrapper?
[07:49] <p0m> [uhelp]  sdparm is http://sg.torque.net/sg/
[07:49] <mebaran151> I found in the repos
[07:50] <p0m> mebaran151: Cool.
[07:50] <mebaran151> scsitools, blktool
[07:50] <danko123456> rightm, yes
[07:50] <danko123456> you do
[07:50] <Parkway> Dont think Ive tried that because I wasnt sure what to do with it
[07:50] <p0m> Parkway: What's the card you're using?
[07:50] <mebaran151> and sg3-tools
[07:50] <danko123456> that sucks, eh?
[07:50] <mebaran151> I dont think it is sg3
[07:50] <p0m> mebaran151: It should be sg3-tools.
[07:50] <Parkway> Its a USB Adapter, Linksys
[07:50] <mebaran151> no but it isnt an sg driver
[07:50] <mebaran151> it is sd
[07:50] <danko123456> not really knowledgeable, I heard you can do that, to see if it is good.
[07:51] <mebaran151> I read that in my mplayer manual ;)
[07:51] <synd> Parkway: do you have the WinXP drivers for it?
[07:51] <Parkway> On a CD, ya
[07:51] <synd> Parkway: i can walk you thru it
[07:51] <p0m> mebaran151: sg3 is an sd driver. It stands for SCSI generic driver 3.
[07:51] <danko123456> hi ogra
[07:51] <xxviperzlairxx> Do you have to be running linux for the LiveCD to boot?
[07:51] <synd> xxviperzlairxx: no
[07:51] <p0m> xxviperzlairxx: No.
[07:51] <synd> xxviperzlairxx: you have to boot from CD
[07:51] <xxviperzlairxx> i cannot get the CD to boot
[07:51] <Parkway> Great! I mean, I have it in my Network list, and I can ifconfig and it shows up, but no signal??
[07:52] <danko123456> off course not, that is the idea;)
[07:52] <lexxan> xxviperzlairxx, Check your BIOS and make sure its set to boot off cdrom.
[07:52] <synd> xxviperzlairxx: you press like f12 right when you start up to check the boot sequence
[07:53] <xxviperzlairxx> ok, ill go try
[07:53] <synd> xxviperzlairxx: some computers check the cdrom/floppy before booting off the HD, some done
[07:53] <synd> dont
[07:53] <lexxan> f12 or f1 f2
[07:53] <lexxan> del
[07:53] <lexxan> usually
[07:53] <synd> yeah
[07:53] <p0m> synd: Most don't. It wastes bootup time.
[07:53] <synd> it should say for a brief period of time
[07:53] <Raskall> is there a way to search for a certain host on irc? I have found out that the person hacking me is at uphosting.com.br
[07:53] <mebaran151> looks like I need sgparm
[07:53] <mebaran151> sdparm I mean
[07:53] <mebaran151> they should put it in the archive
[07:53] <p0m> Raskall: Unless they've gotten in, they aren't hacking.
[07:53] <danko123456> they should, like mine
[07:53] <Hardy|ALSAsucks> ?? alsa
[07:53] <[uhelp] > alsa[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:53] <p0m> mebaran151: http://sg.torque.net/sg/sdparm.html
[07:54] <Raskall> p0m: ok.. trying, then..
[07:54] <p0m> There's a deb there.
[07:54] <lexxan> p0m, I added it just for u :P
[07:54] <p0m> lexxan: Added?
[07:54] <lexxan> ?? sdparm
[07:54] <[uhelp] > sdparm: Check out - http://sg.torque.net/sg/sdparm.html
[07:54] <lexxan> heh
[07:54] <p0m> Ohh, thanks.
[07:54] <Parkway> synd, Any help is much appreciated ;)
[07:54] <p0m> How'd you add it?
[07:55] <me101> hi guys
[07:55] <p0m> Hi me101.
[07:55] <me101> wich is the best Linux OS
[07:55] <danko123456> haha
[07:55] <danko123456> awesome
[07:55] <p0m> Haha.
[07:55] <lexxan> p0m, with my secret commands@)@$*$%
[07:55] <p0m> me101: Are you trying to start a flamewar? :)
[07:55] <synd> me101: ubuntu, of course
[07:55] <danko123456> www.bestLinuxOS.org
[07:55] <paulproteus> me101: Peanut Linux is the best.
[07:55] <synd> Parkway: PM?
[07:55] <p0m> lexxan: Ohh, you own the bot?
[07:56] <lexxan> ya just started it the other day
[07:56] <lexxan> lackin definitions :P
[07:56] <p0m> Cool.
[07:56] <danko123456> its funny, though
[07:56] <me101> I've just installed unbutu, fantastic stuff
[07:56] <danko123456> You **danko
[07:56] <p0m> You might want to add a in-channel command for people to add to it.
[07:56] <danko123456> I agree, pretty good
[07:56] <synd> mandrake is nice
[07:56] <danko123456> I love it too...
[07:56] <synd> linspire
[07:56] <fsapo> me101, now just uninstall windows and be happy :)
[07:56] <lexxan> People who want to add can ask lol
[07:56] <lexxan> As if i'm gonna let everyone go nuts.
[07:56] <synd> fsapo: i agree :D
[07:56] <shido6> I still keep and run my xp
[07:56] <shido6> but a lot less now that I have ubuntu
[07:57] <p0m> lexxan: Just add a userlist of some form, so that you can let people you know use it.
[07:57] <lexxan> its already set that way
[07:57] <fsapo> synd, man.. i dont regret uninstalling that shit!
[07:57] <lexxan> !learn add danko Channel Clown.
[07:57] <p0m> lexxan: Ohh, fair enough.
[07:57] <me101> in the way Linux has advanced, leaves MS for dead
[07:57] <shido6> anyone familiar with getting OpenAL and esd to work?
[07:57] <p0m> ?? danko
[07:57] <[uhelp] > danko: Channel Clown.
[07:57] <danko123456> funk that...
[07:57] <danko123456> I try to help...
[07:57] <synd> fsapo: me too.. it was just taking up space :D
[07:57] <lexxan> hahaha
[07:57] <me101> there is one problem, however
[07:57] <danko123456> I helped a couple ppl...
[07:57] <lexxan> !learn del danko
[07:58] <danko123456> Anyhow, thats not nice...hah
[07:58] <lexxan> just messin with ya =]
[07:58] <danko123456> But, its funny,.
[07:58] <me101> which is the problem that I had (lets hope)
[07:58] <danko123456> :)
[07:58] <me101> didnt know which version of Linux to install
[07:58] <fsapo> synd, and thanx to the epic games i can play ut2k4 :D i love those guys haha
[07:58] <dell500> i'm trying to isntall cedega cvs, i was wondering if anyone here has done it?
[07:58] <lexxan> I don't know much.. i just point people to wikis :P
[07:58] <me101> there are a few
[07:58] <p0m> mebaran151: You still there?
[07:59] <p0m> me101: If you get Ubuntu, Canonical will ship it to you :)
[07:59] <Parkway> ?? cedega
[07:59] <[uhelp] > cedega[x] : No defenition found for word.
[07:59] <danko123456> yeah, Canonical covers even the shipping, and cd, thats funny.
[07:59] <Anubis> crimsun, is there some real help comming in the way of fixing the gnome menu system ie. editing?
[07:59] <fsapo> p0m, i ve asked for a cd 2 weeks ago.. i m wondering when is it going to arive here
[08:00] <me101> Unbutu is fantastic in the way it installs
[08:00] <p0m> me101: http://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[08:00] <lexxan> off topic.. anyone here seen man of the house with tommy lee jones
[08:00] <lexxan> isn't it 4-6 weeks
[08:00] <p0m> fsapo: Ubuntu Down Under was just on, so I'd say some time in the next two-three weeks.
[08:00] <p0m> Or what lexxan said.
[08:00] <me101> it even, I think, updates itself on the Net while it installs
[08:00] <fsapo> p0m, hum.. nice :)
[08:00] <me101> thanks p0m
[08:01] <danko123456> me101: I think it hjust says that
[08:01] <fsapo> lexxan, i dont have problems with the download but i want the pretty cd :D
[08:01] <danko123456> told me that and I was not even connected.
[08:01] <p0m> danko123456: I'm interested to see if Canonical will support the free shipping of ubuntu-sbs and ubuntu-server when they come out.
[08:01] <danko123456> but, yeah very cmooth default.
[08:01] <danko123456> oh, so new versions?
[08:01] <p0m> I think mainly they will be metapackages, but it would be nice to see separate Iso's.
[08:01] <danko123456> that is kinda against what they said in the beginning.
[08:01] <danko123456> But, whatever, I dont need uit.
[08:02] <p0m> danko123456: They're being designed by volunteers. One's mainly going to be like Windows SBS.
[08:02] <me101> amayzing, it has everything you need to get started
[08:02] <danko123456> what is that sbs anyhow?
[08:02] <Ksmurf> Can someone pls point me in the direction of where ubantu store types of files... I figure / is system files ... /usr are user configs /home are user docs and such... but I'm lokking for a package that was install with synaptic and I am suppose to find the .sh file
[08:02] <danko123456> right.
[08:02] <danko123456> And more...
[08:02] <p0m> It's mail, dns, directory etc all integrated.
[08:02] <danko123456> And after you connect to the internet, anything you want to install is at your fingertips.
[08:02] <p0m> Ksmurf: What program was it?
[08:02] <danko123456> amazing, as you say.
[08:02] <lexxan> Ksmurf, If you right click the package and goto properties.. you can see the installed files tab.
[08:02] <Ksmurf> lmsensors
[08:02] <danko123456> the real stuff, how it should be.
[08:03] <Ksmurf> thanks lexxan
[08:03] <abarbaccia> hey all - how do i upgrade to breezy from hoary
[08:03] <p0m> Ksmurf: The sh doesn't come with the install :) You just have to copy and paste the script the howto supplies.
[08:03] <lexxan> That would be a downgrade.
[08:03] <abarbaccia> or run the "unstable" whatever you want to call it
[08:03] <fsapo> man.. ubuntu just isnt perfect for one think
[08:03] <fsapo> it doesnt make coffee for me
[08:03] <lexxan> oh i misread
[08:03] <p0m> lexxan beat it to me.
[08:03] <lexxan> n/m :P
[08:03] <p0m> Heh.
[08:03] <lexxan> i need sleep
[08:04] <fsapo> when ubuntu learn how to make coffee it will be the perfect os :)
[08:04] <lexxan> or more pot
[08:04] <p0m> fsapo: Google around, there's a coffee brewing program. There's also an eggtimer.
[08:04] <me101> Bill Gates can now go and get stuffed
[08:04] <abarbaccia> hey guys - anybody here know how to use breezy
[08:04] <fsapo> p0m, hehe i know it.. i m just kidding :)
[08:04] <p0m> There's also a guide to make coffee machines controllable by serial.
[08:04] <danko123456> I misread it because of you too.
[08:04] <danko123456> pretty weird.
[08:04] <me101> how do I know wether I've got the latest version????????
[08:04] <p0m> I made one, all you need is a couple of resistors, a relay, and some wire.
[08:05] <p0m> me101: 5.04 is the latest version.
[08:05] <danko123456> well, not yet, me101
[08:05] <Anubis> fsapo, no, when it learns to allow menu editing it will be perfect
[08:05] <paulproteus> fsapo: Especially given the color scheme.
[08:05] <fsapo> Anubis, hehe
[08:05] <p0m> There's a testing version of Breezy about, which is 5.10? but it apparently isn't all that stable yet.
[08:05] <danko123456> me101: tell me what word)(hoary, warty) in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:05] <me101> thanks p0m, but how can I tell whats installed on my system
[08:06] <fsapo> i m wondering why my clock is ALWAYS wrong =/
[08:06] <me101> because as I access ABOUT, it takes me to a WebSite
[08:06] <p0m> me101: Ohh.
[08:06] <p0m> I don't think a uname -a would suffice, would it.
[08:07] <danko123456> me101: tell me what word)(hoary, warty) in your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:07] <danko123456> add is I guess.
[08:07] <Seveas> me101, 'sudo cat /etc/issue' will tell you which version of ubuntu you have
[08:07] <Seveas> me101, dpkg -l will tell you the version of each installed package
 dont quiet understand you, sorry
[08:09] <danko123456> thats cool
[08:09] <danko123456> open a terminal...
[08:10] <danko123456> and do what Seveas said
[08:10] <da_bon_bon> hiya all
[08:10] <me101> ahh, I see in the command line ????
[08:10] <danko123456> heyy
[08:10] <da_bon_bon> danko123456: hi
[08:10] <danko123456> right
[08:10] <danko123456> 'sudo cat /etc/issue'
[08:10] <danko123456> and enter
[08:10] <danko123456> no '
[08:12] <danko123456> hehe, so homewrok done?
[08:12] <me101> ok
[08:12] <danko123456> what version did it tell you?
[08:12] <me101> I got it
[08:12] <me101> thanks
[08:13] <danko123456> welcome
[08:13] <danko123456> which version?
[08:13] <me101> 4.10
[08:13] <danko123456> that is the older.
[08:13] <danko123456> Did you just install?
[08:13] <danko123456> just now?
[08:13] <crimsun> Anubis: I'm not current with any
[08:13] <danko123456> No addons?
[08:14] <me101> yes <danko123456
[08:14] <danko123456> Cool, you can upgrade then, you never changed anything in the sources.list file?
[08:14] <Seveas> me101, if you have a broadband connection, it is advisory to upgrade to hoary
[08:14] <me101> nice interface, but obviously one would still have to get to know some code
[08:15] <ivoks> hi folks
[08:15] <me101> <danko123456,......... nothing changed
[08:15] <ivoks> i hate ubuntu :)
[08:15] <danko123456> cool, open a terminal, and type in gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:15] <danko123456> change every entry of warty to hoary
[08:15] <me101> thanks Seveas
[08:15] <ivoks> :)
[08:16] <danko123456> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:16] <danko123456> then cahnge ity
[08:16] <danko123456> then save it and close.
[08:16] <danko123456> and then type in sudo apt-get update
[08:16] <harsha_> can someone help me install Yahoo Messenger in Kubuntu Hoary release
[08:16] <danko123456> and when that is done, apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:16] <paulproteus> harsha_: Use Kopete or gaim instead.
[08:17] <danko123456> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:17] <p0m> harsha_: That would be kopete or gaim.
[08:17] <paulproteus> Yahoo messenger for Linux totally sucks.
[08:17] <danko123456> then youll update to the newer...
[08:17] <harsha_> yeah i have both
[08:17] <p0m> paulproteus: They actually released a client for it?
[08:17] <harsha_> but i just want to try yahoo msnger once
[08:17] <paulproteus> p0m: Yeah, there's an official AIM, too.  It's total trash.
[08:17] <gorilla_> paulproteus, try gaim :-)
[08:17] <paulproteus> gorilla_: I use gaim!  I'm warning harsha_ to avoid the commercial, sucky clients. :)
[08:17] <me101> thanks danko123456
[08:18] <harsha_> yeah i will have to go back to GAIM
[08:18] <me101> I'll follow instructions
[08:18] <paulproteus> harsha_: Kopete - have you tried that?
[08:18] <harsha_> yeah
[08:18] <paulproteus> harsha_: If you really want, ask me again and I'll look into this closed-source Yahoo messenger.
[08:18] <harsha_> kopete is better than GaiM
[08:18] <lexxan> all I ask of gaim is to change their default sounds
[08:18] <harsha_> hey paul may be u can help me
[08:18] <abarbaccia> harsha_, no way - kopete is terrible i think
[08:18] <p0m> You could also try Psi and Exodus, connecting to Yahoo Gateways through the Jabber Network.
[08:19] <paulproteus> harsha_: http://messenger.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html - follow the instructions for Debian
[08:19] <harsha_> GAIM has access to yahoo,MSN and all msngers
[08:19] <harsha_> haan
[08:19] <Seveas> kopete starts with a K, so it must suck...
[08:19] <harsha_> i have done everything
[08:19] <harsha_> including the DEPS
[08:19] <harsha_> i have a problem running it
[08:19] <paulproteus> Seveas: gaim starts with a G, it must suck.
[08:19] <harsha_> i get the error
[08:19] <harsha_> Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
[08:19] <harsha_> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:19] <harsha_> Xlib: No protocol specified
[08:19] <harsha_> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[08:19] <paulproteus> harsha_: You must stop running it as root.
[08:20] <lexxan> harsha_, Are you su'd to root?
[08:20] <harsha_> when i try to run it in a X terminal
[08:20] <p0m> paulproteus: Good call.
[08:20] <lexxan> heh
[08:20] <danko123456> me101: welcome
[08:20] <danko123456> why hate?
[08:20] <harsha_> oh i see
[08:20] <lexxan> I've done that way too many times
[08:20] <harsha_> hang on paul
[08:20] <harsha_> lemme try it
[08:20] <paulproteus> (Score one point for pattern recognition ;)
[08:20] <harsha_> hey paulproteus
[08:21] <harsha_> i didnt work as a normal user too
[08:21] <harsha_> the error says
[08:21] <harsha_> Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
[08:21] <me101> <danko123456, .. sources.list opened read only
[08:21] <harsha_> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[08:21] <harsha_> Xlib: No protocol specified
[08:21] <harsha_> Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0.0
[08:21] <harsha_> Gdk-WARNING **: locale not supported by Xlib, locale set to C
[08:21] <harsha_> Segmentation fault
[08:21] <p0m> I think they broke it.
[08:21] <bob2> the program is horribly broken
[08:21] <Seveas> isn't the display just :0
[08:21] <bob2> or you have disk corruption/bade ram
[08:21] <Seveas> and not :0.0
[08:22] <p0m> bob2: It's yahoo, I'd put all my money on horribly broken.
[08:22] <paulproteus> Seveas: :0.0 - display 0, screen 0
[08:22] <Seveas> k
[08:22] <p0m> You could always try to strace it.
[08:22] <paulproteus> That'd be fun! :)
[08:22] <Seveas> ouch
[08:23] <p0m> Seveas: :0 is over the network :)
[08:23] <p0m> Wherease :0.0 is local.
[08:23] <Seveas> thou shall not strace closed source programs if thou does not wish to despair :)
[08:23] <p0m> Haha.
[08:23] <p0m> I have IDA running here.
[08:23] <bob2> no
[08:23] <bob2> :0 is local, too
[08:23] <paulproteus> p0m: That's untrue.
[08:23] <p0m> Well, there you go.
[08:23] <paulproteus> :0.0 - display 0, screen 0
[08:24] <paulproteus> Xinerama lets you use different screens on a single display, iirc.
[08:24] <fsapo> is anyone here used to make "dvd backups?"
[08:24] <bob2> yup
[08:24] <harsha_> so paulproteus
[08:24] <paulproteus> harsha_: go on
[08:24] <harsha_> is there any solution
[08:25] <paulproteus> You can try removing that package...
[08:25] <fsapo> i wanna know how to make a double-layer dvd fit on a 4.7gb midia =/ anyone here knows how to make it?
[08:25] <paulproteus> ...and installing the one for RedHat 9.
[08:25] <paulproteus> You'd have to convert it to a Debian package using "alien", but that should be easy enough.
[08:25] <harsha_> which package
[08:25] <paulproteus> http://messenger.yahoo.com/messenger/download/unix.html - download the redhat9 package
[08:25] <harsha_> can u help me do that
[08:25] <harsha_> and then
[08:25] <paulproteus> It's really late and I must sleep.
[08:26] <paulproteus> alien -d filename.rpm
[08:26] <_4strO> then after dpkg -i filename.deb
[08:26] <_4strO> :p
[08:26] <bob2> why don't you just use gaim?
[08:27] <harsha_> thanx paul i hope that works
[08:27] <harsha_> hey bob2
[08:27] <harsha_> i think i wll go back to gaim
[08:27] <harsha_> gaim does not support yahoo smileys
[08:27] <p0m> fsapo: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26965
[08:27] <p0m> That should be a good start.
[08:28] <danko123456> he left
[08:28] <Xirdneh> hi there, does anyone knows how to play .ogm files?, i have xine and xine-lib 01, and vlc, it tells me theres no plug in :s
[08:28] <bob2> ogm is a container
[08:28] <Xirdneh> .
[08:28] <HrdwrBoB> ...
[08:28] <bob2> you need something that supports whatever is inside it
[08:28] <HrdwrBoB> or you could just apt-get install dvdrip
[08:28] <HrdwrBoB> and use that
[08:28] <bob2> ie wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:29] <Xirdneh> so how do i know whats in it?
[08:29] <bob2> just get mplayer or whatever
[08:29] <cvncpu> hello
[08:29] <Xirdneh> mplayer also doesnt play it :s
[08:29] <bob2> then get the will windows dlls
[08:29] <bob2> ie, read that wiki page
[08:29] <Xirdneh> ok, let me go through it, thnx :p
[08:31] <danko123456> mr
[08:31] <cvncpu> when i try and compile fluxbox i get this error: checking how to run the C++ preprocessor... /lib/cpp
[08:31] <cvncpu> configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[08:31] <danko123456> me101: cant be readonly with  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:32] <bob2> cvncpu: install build-essential
[08:32] <me101> ok
[08:32] <cvncpu> ok
[08:32] <crimsun> cvncpu: (or use fluxbox from universe)
[08:32] <paulproteus> harsha_: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/themes.php?action=showtheme&id=66
[08:32] <paulproteus> harsha_: There are smiley packs for gaim for yahoo smileys.
[08:32] <paulproteus> that's a sample link; others may be better.
[08:33] <danko123456> me101: still read only?
[08:33] <me101> I guess automazation, like in Win XP, is yet to be achived
[08:33] <HrdwrBoB> automation
[08:34] <HrdwrBoB> no z :)
[08:34] <danko123456> well, somewhat
[08:34] <cvncpu> crimsun: get it form where?
[08:34] <danko123456> its pretty good now...
[08:34] <danko123456> just has so many options...
[08:34] <danko123456> thats the thing...its advanced.
[08:34] <me101> <HrdwrBoB.......... english teacher, .....thanks
[08:35] <crimsun> cvncpu: wiki.ubuntu.com/UniversePackages
[08:35] <cvncpu> crimsun: thanks
[08:36] <synd> me101: english teacher?
[08:36] <synd> me101: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=automazation
[08:36] <danko123456> windows xp == crap...
[08:36] <me101> sorry, I was just being smart
[08:37] <synd> its cool
[08:37] <synd> danko123456: everyone knows this
[08:37] <synd> we wouldnt be here if we thought otherwise
[08:38] <danko123456> me101: NO NEED TO BE SORRY, THOUGH:)
[08:38] <danko123456> HAH CAPs
[08:38] <danko123456> nuts
[08:38] <me101> movin on, now
[08:39] <me101> <danko123456, well, now its crap, having seen UBUNTU
[08:40] <danko123456> got upgraded?
[08:40] <synd> i really dont mind win2000
[08:40] <danko123456> i dont mind any...but the compariwson...
[08:40] <synd> i *hate* the fischer-price feel of xp
[08:40] <danko123456> right
[08:40] <me101> indeed
[08:40] <me101> ok
[08:40] <Rydekull> You really dont have your facts straight if you say that win2k sp4 is better then winxp sp2
[08:40] <me101> <danko123456, come again
[08:41] <cvncpu> ok wait
[08:41] <cvncpu> it says
[08:41] <danko123456> did you upgrade your Ubuntu?
[08:41] <me101> replace Warty with ?
[08:41] <synd> Rydekull: lol
[08:41] <cvncpu> On the right hand size of the center panel, you will see two lines with universe at the end. Follow the first line and make sure the checkbox at the left is checked.
[08:41] <cvncpu> i don't understand
[08:41] <fsapo> p0m, i have dvdrip here just installed.. but it seems that justs convert o avi or svcd
[08:42] <p0m> fsapo: You just wanted to copy the DVD itself?
[08:42] <fsapo> p0m, yes
[08:42] <p0m> Err.
[08:42] <fsapo> p0m, but some dvd have more than 4.7gb
[08:42] <p0m> I'm not exactly sure how you'd go about doing that.
[08:42] <p0m> I'm thinking dd, but that probably wouldn't burn back.
[08:42] <fsapo> p0m, =/
[08:43] <me101> not yet danko123456, I'm still finding my way around this new OS
[08:43] <cvncpu> fsapo: you're using ext3 i assume?
[08:44] <danko123456> hoary
[08:44] <cvncpu> can anyone help me with my universal problem?
[08:44] <fsapo> cvncpu, ext3? reiserfs in my partitions
[08:44] <danko123456> scroll up, I guess you cant...
[08:45] <fsapo> cvncpu, but what have ext3 to do with dvd?
[08:45] <danko123456> shoulda saved it
[08:45] <finn> hi people... is there a way of making my laptop automatically enable it's wireless card (need to press Fn-F1 before the bootup process gets to setting up network at the moment)
[08:45] <cvncpu> fsapo: reiserFS should support files larger than 4.7GB
[08:45] <jblack> I've put up my ubuntu down under pics up. It'll probably be slow for awhile, but http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005
[08:45] <fsapo> cvncpu, but the problem is that i cant burn it to a 4.7gb dvd-r disc
[08:46] <fsapo> cvncpu, i need some kind of compression for the dvd itself
[08:46] <me101> danko123456, can you please repeat your instructons, or am I able to look up history on thi IRC ?
[08:46] <cvncpu> fsapo: try DivX or Xvid
[08:46] <me101> *this
[08:46] <danko123456> ill get it for ya, sure
[08:46] <me101> thanks
[08:47] <me101> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 4.10 _Warty Warthog_ - Preview i386 Binary-1 (20041020)] / unstable main restricted
[08:47] <me101> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty main restricted
[08:47] <me101> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty main restricted
[08:47] <me101> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[08:47] <me101> ## repository.
[08:47] <me101> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[08:47] <me101> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[08:47] <me101> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[08:47] <me101> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[08:47] <me101> ## team.
[08:47] <cvncpu> fsapo: DivX is my personal favorite but XviD has better quality
[08:47] <me101> # deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty universe
[08:47] <me101> # deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty universe
[08:47] <danko123456> danko123456: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  danko123456: then save it and close. danko123456: and then type in sudo apt-get update danko123456: and when that is done, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade danko123456: then youll update to the newer...
[08:47] <me101> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty-security main restricted
[08:47] <me101> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu warty-security main restricted
[08:47] <danko123456> dont paste that big
[08:47] <cvncpu> me101: what file is that?
[08:48] <danko123456> its too big
[08:48] <danko123456> there is soething called www.pastebin.org
[08:48] <me101> mistake, oops
[08:48] <cvncpu> lol
[08:48] <cvncpu> hey me101 what file is that?
[08:48] <danko123456> or www.pastebin.com
[08:48] <fsapo> cvncpu, i know it i use xvid but...
[08:48] <p0m> There's also #flood
[08:48] <fsapo> cvncpu, i want to make a dvd to play it on a dvd player
[08:48] <danko123456> you paste in, and give us the URL
[08:49] <cvncpu> fsapo: isn't there a way to get DivX and XviD to DVD format
[08:49] <bob2> fsapo: this isn't a "copying cds you rented" channel
[08:49] <fsapo> bob2, dunno =[
[08:49] <bob2> fsapo: try #mplayer or something
[08:49] <cvncpu> hellO!
[08:49] <cvncpu> me101: what file was that you pasted into this channel????
[08:50] <danko123456> bob2: haha
[08:50] <p0m> bob2: Good call.
[08:50] <me101> foreget it, guys, didnt mean to paste it
[08:50] <danko123456> I love that guy
[08:50] <danko123456> thats fine
[08:50] <cvncpu> me101: what file?!
[08:50] <me101> sources.list
[08:50] <danko123456> jsut told you what to do, if you wnt to in the future
[08:50] <cvncpu> ok
[08:50] <fsapo> bob2, thanx =P i m asking there
[08:50] <p0m> cvncpu: It was his sources
[08:50] <cvncpu> p0m: i need to enable universal
[08:51] <ek__> go ahead
[08:51] <cvncpu> and the "center panal" doesn't exist on my copy of synaptic
[08:51] <jblack> (second mention for those that missed the first) I've put up my ubuntu down under pics up. It'll probably be slow for awhile, but http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005
[08:51] <danko123456> Yeah, universal is good
[08:51] <p0m> cvncpu: Easist way is in Synaptic.
[08:51] <p0m> jblack: Cool :) I missed it because Treenaks told me a day too late it was on :(
[08:51] <cvncpu> p0m: synaptic doesn't have this option in the repos menu
[08:52] <cvncpu> where is that file?
[08:52] <cvncpu> i don't mind just uncommenting it
[08:52] <fsapo> =[ seems that everybody is sleeping on the other channels :P
[08:52] <p0m> It should be /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:52] <p0m> Or something similar
[08:52] <me101> danko123456, your instructions difer from prior, dont I first need to replace some words
[08:53] <me101> you said, replace Warty with:
[08:53] <danko123456> hoary
[08:53] <me101> ok
[08:53] <me101> got you
[08:53] <danko123456> then save and all that.
[08:53] <danko123456> cool
[08:53] <danko123456> do that...
[08:53] <danko123456> it will upgrade you to hoary
[08:53] <danko123456> the current stable version
[08:53] <cvncpu> p0m: now i get : W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com hoary/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_hoary_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[08:53] <me101> and then
[08:53] <danko123456> hoary hedgehog
[08:53] <me101> something about ity
[08:54] <cvncpu> where can i find a valid universal repo URL?
[08:54] <p0m> cvncpu: Now you have to apt-get update
[08:54] <mpt> jblack: The guy whose name you don't remember on page 1 is Bjorn Tellenius (sp?), my roommate
[08:54] <cvncpu> p0m: ok thanks
[08:55] <p0m> Damn, I missed the Launchpad talk.
[08:55] <danko123456> me101: whats that last part?
[08:55] <k31th> Morning Guys :D
[08:55] <jblack> mpt: fixed. Thanks.
[08:56] <cvncpu> oik
[08:56] <bob2> cvncpu: wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[08:56] <cvncpu> bob2: that needs to be updated
[08:57] <cvncpu> bbl
[08:57] <geneo93> anyone have xmms working with fm radio card
[08:57] <mpt> jblack: In http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005/img_0283 Mako is not the person on the left. Mako is the person on the right, and the person on the left is Breezy icon artist Andrew Fitzsimon
[08:58] <transgress> where is the modules blacklist?
[08:59] <bob2> transgress: /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[08:59] <transgress> thanks
[08:59] <mako> wow, i look pretty good in that pic
[08:59] <jsgotangco> hey mako
[08:59] <mako> ;)
[08:59] <mako> jsgotangco: whats up
[08:59] <mpt> jblack: I don't know the names of the people in http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005/img_0288 but kiko will, I think they're his colleagues
[08:59] <jsgotangco> mako, tired
[08:59] <mako> jsgotangco: unfortunately, i am not
[08:59] <mpt> (or two of them are)
[08:59] <mako> jsgotangco: it's 3AM and i am not tired AT ALL
[08:59] <jsgotangco> haha
[08:59] <jblack> mpt: fixed.
[09:00] <mako> jetlag sucks :)
[09:00] <jsgotangco> hey look its andy
[09:00] <mako> i should nkow them
[09:00] <mako> i think i knew everyone there
[09:00] <mpt> jblack: in http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005/img_0279 the guy on the right is the founder of Kubuntu whose name starts with J
[09:00] <mpt> erm
[09:00] <JaneW> mako: *nod* *yawn*
[09:00] <mpt> Jonathan someone
[09:00] <geneo93> tritium:  any ideas how to get that to work
[09:01] <jsgotangco> jonathan riddell
[09:01] <mako> ok, in 279, it's jorge bernal on the right
[09:01] <bob2> JaneW: did you manage to get a visa to go *back*? ;)
[09:01] <jblack> mpt: if you find the name, I'll happily fix it. :)
[09:01] <mpt> jblack: The person on the right in http://gallery.linuxguru.net/UbuntuDownUnder-4-2005/img_0276 is nobody important
[09:01] <bob2> jblack: mpool, not mpoole
[09:01] <mako> bob2: you joke, but exit visas are quite common in much of the third world
[09:01] <mpt> dammit I always manage to close my eyes when people are taking photos
[09:02] <mako> bob2: i've had to get them
[09:02] <JaneW> bob2: hehe they were happy to see the last of us actually, and we barely noticed customs in SA.. they were so friendly :P
[09:02] <bob2> mako: haha
[09:02] <jsgotangco> JaneW, hey!
[09:02] <mako> ok.. 288 sorry
[09:02] <mako> 288 is the spainards
[09:02] <JaneW> hey jsg
[09:02] <jblack> Are you mpt?
[09:02] <jblack> Are you the somebody else? :)
[09:03] <mpt> yeah
[09:03] <bob2> jblack: 0258 is whiprush
[09:03] <jblack> mpt stands for?
[09:03] <mpt> Matthew Paul Thomas
[09:03] <bob2> jblack: 0253 is paul sladen
[09:03] <bob2> jblack: 0254 is mr business card
[09:04] <bob2> haha
[09:04] <mako> jblack: in 288 is it's javier carranza, juan jesus ojeda and jorge bernal
[09:04] <Rydekull> uh.. where was the meet?
[09:04] <JaneW> haha, it's not that hard
[09:04] <bob2> mpt: don't screw up, one of them signs your paychecks
[09:04] <mako> jblack: from right to left to left
[09:04] <mako> yeah<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:04] <Levander> How are you guys installing eclipse?
[09:04] <mako> or<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:04] <JaneW> displaying the fact that she does wield SOME power
[09:04] <mako> depending on your predisposition
[09:05] <bob2> JaneW: plus, she knows our names
[09:05] <JaneW> the latter
[09:05] <mako> bob2: JaneW  doesn't need to know your name
[09:05] <JaneW> so do I *sideshow*!
[09:05] <bob2> mako: well, true
[09:05] <mpt> ...cheques@ for the Lightwave employees, ...checks@ for the Canonical employees
[09:05] <bob2> dammit!
[09:05] <jblack> Claire!  :P
[09:07] <bob2> Rydekull: sydney
[09:07] <jblack> mako: Its his "free pr0n h33r!!"  Figured it was as useful as a license agreement.
[09:08] <JaneW> can of coke
[09:08] <bob2> jblack: mako made it up so people couldn't blame him for anything
[09:09] <jsgotangco> ive read it though but i haven't signed it yet
[09:09] <mako> bunch of hippy bullshit
[09:09] <jsgotangco> "I WILL SIGN IT SOON"
[09:09] <JaneW> we have to sign it!?
[09:09] <mako> all about "respect" and "responsibility"
[09:09] <mako> JaneW: YES
[09:09] <mako> JaneW: seriously though
[09:09] <JaneW> COC!
[09:09] <jsgotangco> YEAH
[09:09] <mako> JaneW: any member should
[09:09] <mako> JaneW: actually, any member *must*
[09:09] <JaneW> mako: I do agree
[09:09] <mako> JaneW: not enough
[09:09] <JaneW> makes sense
[09:09] <jsgotangco> i prefer to fax it though
[09:10] <mako> jsgotangco: that's fine, my fax number is all over the web
[09:10] <jblack> Mako: I bet I could list a couple people at the company that respect your coc. ;)
[09:10] <jsgotangco> at least you can have a hard copy of the COC
[09:10] <bob2> jsgotangco: 1-900-HOT-MAKO
[09:10] <jsgotangco> no
[09:10] <JaneW> 1-900-COC-MAKO
[09:10] <jsgotangco> 1-900-HOT-MAKO-COC
[09:10] <mako> jsgotangco: too many digets
[09:10] <crimsun> mako: could be an extension.
[09:11] <mako> jblack: dude, pretty soon, everyone in the company that uploads to ubuntu will respect my coc
[09:11] <mako> jblack: that's on my todo list
[09:11] <crimsun> wait, I think that reveals too much about my knowledge of 900 #s
[09:11] <jblack> mako: Just to be clear, you're the coc-master?
[09:11] <mako> jblack: one could say that
[09:11] <jsgotangco> jeezz
[09:11] <mako> dude, i'm about to ban you all
[09:11] <jsgotangco> now i know why we had a BOF to clean this CHANNEL
[09:11] <mako> including myself
[09:11] <bob2> ahahaha
[09:12] <mako> for bob2 op me
[09:12] <jblack> jsgotangco: What did I say?
[09:12] <JaneW> every commnity memeber will have to accept mako's coc before they'll be allowed to join....
[09:12] <mako> bob2: ban me
[09:12] <mako> or at least kick me
[09:12] <mako> and janew
[09:12] <jsgotangco> haha
[09:12] <jblack> JaneW: do company members need to sign the coc?
[09:12] <mako> i learned my lesson
[09:12] <mako> jblack: only company members that upload
[09:12] <bob2> JaneW: "NEVER"
[09:12] <jblack> Because I was just thinking.. the company is about 99% male...
[09:13] <Burgundavia> jblack, martin pitt is pitti not mpt
[09:13] <jblack> burgundavia: Hmm? Which photo?
[09:13] <Burgundavia> 21
[09:13] <jsgotangco> mpt is matthew thomas from NZ
[09:13] <Burgundavia> he is the one who wrote the "rant"
[09:13] <jblack> burgandavia: It should be a 4 digit number.
[09:14] <jblack> 0253 for example.
[09:14] <Burgundavia> 0305
[09:14] <mako> i at least have the excuse that i am trying to overcome jetlag by ingesting large quantites of whiskey
[09:14] <mako> due to timezones and all, i can't imagine that janew has the same excuse at the moment
[09:14] <Burgundavia> mako, do not drink and irc
[09:14] <ajmitch_> mpt: launchpad? :)
[09:14] <mpt> yeah
[09:15] <mpt> First: Get a working Internet connection
[09:15] <mpt> Second: Get famous from Launchpad
[09:15] <bob2> Third: profit!
[09:15] <Burgundavia> we have succesfully kicked all the normal users off the channel
[09:16] <geneo93> oh you think
[09:16] <bob2> see
[09:16] <bob2> and now we've solved all #ubuntu's problems in one fell sweep
[09:16] <JaneW> mako: what time dod you get back home?
[09:16] <bob2> er, swoop.
[09:16] <Burgundavia> indeed
[09:16] <jblack> I think conference would have been more effective if we had started the day with jello shots.
[09:16] <jsgotangco> yeah mentos can be hard on the face
[09:17] <bob2> jblack: amen
[09:17] <bob2> mako: is it too late to do a JellyShotSpec?
[09:17] <jblack> Oh man. I don't want to see another mento if its the last thing I do.
[09:17] <bob2> mentos can be harder on your laptop
[09:17] <bob2> if your name is thom
[09:17] <mako> JaneW: about 30 hours ago
[09:17] <jsgotangco> jblack, i even had some while on the plane doh
[09:17] <nullaresnata> Hello, how do I tell the driver to use in xorg.conf file for my graphical card?
[09:18] <mako> JaneW: i basically used the whiskey recovery method last night as well
[09:18] <bob2> nullaresnata: it should be detected automatically
[09:18] <mako> JaneW: ended up sleeping like 15 hours straight :)
[09:18] <xukun> I dont see the open programms anymore, I have to use the ctrl + tab to switch between programms
[09:18] <jblack> nullaresnata: the Driver line.
[09:18] <nullaresnata> It's for a second one.
[09:18] <JaneW> mako: insane, but probably effective
[09:18] <bob2> nullaresnata: well, what card do you have?
[09:18] <jblack> bob2: what window am I?
[09:18] <mako> well i like drinking whiskey quite a bit so this is a very convenient excuse
[09:18] <JaneW> hehe
[09:18] <nullaresnata> This one:
[09:19] <mako> today, i change windo manager for the first time in YEARS
[09:19] <mako> i changed from ion2 to....
[09:19] <mako> (get ready)
[09:19] <mako> ion3
[09:19] <nullaresnata>  S3 Inc. 86c864 [Vision 864 DRAM]  vers 1
[09:19] <bob2> jblack: 111
[09:19] <jsgotangco> that sucks
[09:19] <mako> JaneW: i drank red wine on the plane too :)
[09:19] <mako> lots
[09:19] <jblack> I rank 111 in your life? Oh man!
[09:19] <JaneW> ;)
[09:20] <mako> drinking on the plane can be effective, but ends up making me SO dehydrated
[09:20] <jsgotangco> how many movies does a trans atlantic flight show on the plane
[09:20] <bob2> nullaresnata: s3, I think
[09:20] <nullaresnata> Thanks!
[09:20] <nullaresnata> gonna try that.
[09:20] <mako> the two most dehydrating things i do regularly are drinking and flying
[09:20] <bob2> jsgotangco: .au -> .uk gives you time for 13
[09:20] <JaneW> jsg: about 5
[09:20] <mako> jsgotangco: trans *atlantic*?
[09:20] <mako> JaneW: no way
[09:21] <jsgotangco> 13 movies jeeezzz
[09:21] <darmou> Is there a hardware compibility database for ubuntu, I want to get a duel layer dvd burner
[09:21] <mako> JaneW: jfk -> lhr is like 3-4 max
[09:21] <mako> jfk -> capetown is a whole different story
[09:21] <jblack> mako: Hey, where'd you get that battery?
[09:21] <mako> jblack: it's called a powerpad
[09:21] <JaneW> mako: we had 'Ray', 'In Good COmpany', 'Coach Carter', 'Incredibles', Meet the Fockers'
[09:21] <mako> search on froogle
[09:21] <bob2> darmou: they generally just work
[09:21] <mako> JaneW: that's trans AU and trans indian, not trans atlantic :)
[09:22] <jsgotangco> Fockers is good
[09:22] <nullaresnata> It's vesa.
[09:22] <mako> i saw every one of those
[09:22] <nullaresnata> Found here, on someone's site.
[09:22] <mako> and a few others
[09:22] <JaneW> mako: oh DUH, yeah INDIAN
[09:22] <jblack> What do you have? a 120? 160?
[09:22] <mako> i did syd -> lax -> jfk
[09:22] <mako> it was quite long
[09:22] <ajmitch_> we just had one movie for transtasman
[09:22] <mako> jblack: 120b
[09:22] <mako> depends on your laptop
[09:23] <mako> my laptop pull between 10-20 depending on how hard i drive it
[09:23] <mako> so i get between 6-12
[09:23] <mako> usually around 10 hours
[09:23] <JaneW> ok, I got heaos of stuff to do, including figure out how to get GAIM to connect to jabber in Ubuntu...
[09:23] <JaneW> heaos - heaps
[09:24] <jsgotangco> doh just use XP why bother
[09:24] <jblack> oh darn. Looks like they don't make them for vaios.
[09:24] <jsgotangco> *joke*
[09:24] <JaneW> mako: cool, I seem to get 1-2 - sucky!
[09:24] <mako> JaneW: buy a powerpad.. they rock
[09:24] <mako> JaneW: i can get them for like $220 US
[09:24] <mako> JaneW: if you want one, i can bring it to the next conference
[09:24] <JaneW> btw was anyone working already yesterday?
[09:25] <bob2> JaneW: yes
[09:25] <jblack> janew: Yeah. :(
[09:25] <JaneW> mako: I'll think about it, this T42p is pretty cool, but it;s heavy and the battery drains fast...
[09:25] <bob2> even after working saturday and anzac day
[09:26] <mako> JaneW: i worked yeterday.. or at least tried
[09:26] <JaneW> bob2: I worked the previous Sat night and the Sunday b4 the conference, and the wednesday was a public holiday in SA
[09:26] <bob2> JaneW: hah
[09:26] <bob2> JaneW: make sure you get them back
[09:26] <bob2> JaneW: so you can drink red wine all day
[09:26] <JaneW> mako: I was non functional yesterday, wanted to at least go to the gym, but got all sweaty just walking to the couch!
[09:26] <jsgotangco> i like the weather at sydney
[09:27] <JaneW> bob2: well it was a holiday here yesterday, so I took it ;)
[09:27] <jblack> mako: btw, May 19 is a holiday.
[09:27] <jsgotangco> jblack, the photos are great thanks, i took them all
[09:28] <jblack> jsgotangco: Glad to hear it. Next time I'll try to take more.
[09:28] <JaneW> any ideas as to why I get 401: unauthorised, if I try to log on to jabber.org/gaim?
[09:28] <jblack> janew: raw guess here, but sounds like user not found to me?
[09:28] <fsapo> bob2, i managed how to install transcode.. i needed to comment everything but the debian unstable rep, the install some dependencies manually... and then transcode worked :P
[09:29] <bob2> oh god
[09:29] <xukun> ist normal to switch between open programms only with ctrl + TAB in ubuntu?
[09:29] <bob2> fsapo: you're using Debian packages as well?
[09:29] <JaneW> jblack: ok... I'll fiddle some more
[09:29] <bob2> xukun: alt-tab is the default key binding
[09:29] <fsapo> bob2, yes i do
[09:29] <jblack> janew: maybe you changed your password and forgot.
[09:29] <mako> jblack: which holiday?
[09:29] <jblack> mako: Star Wars opens.
[09:29] <bob2> fsapo: that's why you're having so many problems
[09:29] <fsapo> bob2, is there a transcode package in the ubuntu reps?
[09:29] <mako> jblack: OMG YES
[09:29] <jblack> mako: I've already defined it as a holiday. All day catching up on the old ones to see it in the theater.
[09:30] <jblack> The company can take away my birthday, but star wars.... heh. I don't think so. :)
[09:30] <mako> jblack: dude, you should come to nyc
[09:30] <geneo93> help with xmms-fm plz
[09:30] <mako> jblack: i'll try to get jbailey down her for it
[09:30] <JaneW> jblack: no I am tryig to connect from ubuntu for the first time, so it's all different
[09:30] <mako> jblack: we can make an event of it
[09:30] <jblack> I could probably pull that off.
[09:31] <mako> jblack: sure, i have space to put you up. in manhattan even
[09:31] <jblack> Manhattan?
[09:31] <xukun> bob2, sorry I mean that yes alt+tab, but I need to see the open programms so I can swith between the with the mice, now I dont see anything till I use the alt+tab key
[09:31] <mako> jblack: yeah dude
[09:31] <bob2> xukun: I don't know what you mean
[09:31] <mako> jblack: quite uptown, but still manhattan
[09:31] <bob2> geneo93: you need to ask a question
[09:31] <jsgotangco> jblack, you watch boxing?
[09:31] <jblack> Since you've got room, count me in.
[09:31] <xukun> hmm
[09:31] <mako> jblack: think about it.. we have time to think :)
[09:31] <mako> rad
[09:32] <mako> alright.. slee
[09:32] <mako> sleep even
[09:32] <geneo93> bob2:  i want to use fm radio card in xmms how do you get fmr file
[09:32] <mako>  i think i am sufficiently intoxicated
[09:32] <mako> ;)
[09:32] <mako> who needs melatonin
[09:32] <jblack> jsgotangco: Yup. I'm rather new to it (a friend of mine decided I needed a new hobby), but I like it.
[09:32] <bob2> geneo93: try asking on the user list
[09:32] <jblack> mako: My excuse is "I'm avoiding skin cancer"
[09:32] <geneo93> ??
[09:32] <[uhelp] > ??[x] : Usage: ?? <word> [> nick]
[09:32] <bob2> mako: hah, kinnison tried to buy some in the uk, only to be told it was a "controlled substance"
[09:33] <jsgotangco> jblack, because i saw pacquiao in one of your galleries hehehehe...i watched him live like 10 times already when he wasn't that big yet
[09:33] <bob2> geneo93: http://lists.ubuntu.com/
[09:33] <jblack> jsgotangco: If you can make it to NE-Pa, I have parties from time to time. The next time a good fight comes on ppv, I'll invite you
[09:33] <jsgotangco> great
[09:34] <jblack> Here in the downtown Wilkes-Barre, PA canonical office. ;)
[09:34] <jblack> That's the one with the bar, the pool table and the bigscreen. :)
[09:35] <jblack> I have a couple guest rooms too, if you care to stay over.
[09:35] <jsgotangco> ill look forward to that
[09:35] <geneo93> bob2:  no luck
[09:35] <JaneW> jblack: any specific server jabber I should connect to?
[09:35] <bob2> geneo93: what do you mean, "no luck"?
[09:35] <jblack> janew: The one you created the account on. Possibly jabber.com or jabber.org
[09:36] <geneo93> i'm looking for a specific thing
[09:36] <bob2> geneo93: you need to ask your question on there and hope someone answers it
[09:36] <bob2> it seems no one here knows what you're talking about
[09:39] <geneo93> yeah its not like gnomeradio is enough
[09:39] <mark> anyone here use gmail?
[09:40] <JaneW> jblack: hmmm, think it was org... thanks
[09:40] <mark> i send emails from my gmail account to my gmail account.....
[09:40] <bob2> you can't send to yourself
[09:40] <mark> and both thunderbird and evolution never pick it up
[09:40] <mark> why is that?
[09:40] <mark> why cant you i mean
[09:40] <jsgotangco> its conversation based
[09:40] <bob2> don't know
[09:40] <bob2> perhaps to stop you trivially using it as a disk
[09:40] <mark> well, if i go to gmail and login, the email is there though
[09:41] <mark> i just cant get it from the client
[09:41] <jblack> janew: So you're good to go now?
[09:41] <mark> i dont understand this
[09:41] <jsgotangco> if you send via gmail's web interface, the client retrieves it and puts it on inbox
[09:41] <JaneW> jblack: no now I get other errors *grrr*
[09:41] <concept10> anyone here have success with netgear wg311 wireless pci? any links so i can refer to TFM?
[09:42] <goose> um can anyone help me with an nvidia driver problem?
[09:43] <jblack> janew: Ahh. You'll find that under the definition of "progress". What's happening now?
[09:43] <bob2> goose: way better to just ask
[09:43] <goose> ok so I changed the driver from the default "nv" to "nvidia", I followed some steps to get it installed it works fine and all
[09:44] <goose> but, before when I had the "nv" as my driver I could get 1280x1024@85Hz
[09:44] <goose> now I can only get 1260x1024@60Hz
[09:44] <goose> if it is at 85Hz the desktop is bigger than the view screen and you can kinda scroll around it
[09:45] <mark> you're right
[09:45] <goose> I looked at /etc/X11/xorg.conf and the monitor should allow the frequency to be that high
[09:45] <mark> if i send from the web to client it works
[09:45] <mark> if i send from client to client, it doesnt work
[09:46] <mark> is this the way my smtp is setup perhaps for gmail sending?
[09:47] <jblack> oh man, how did I ever get up to 2k emails a day
[09:47] <JaneW> jblack: now it says 'couldn't connect to host'
[09:48] <jblack> janew: I'm not sure what's wrong. I'm not much of a jabber user either, to be honest
[09:48] <drcoded> Hi all
[09:48] <jsgotangco> wait ill register to jabber and see what i get
[09:48] <drcoded> any one install dri.sf.org?
[09:48] <drcoded> I try to install it in ubuntu 5.04 and got lots of error at install