[21:24] <kjd-ro> ------------>  how to enable, make mosue scroll work under 8.04 <---------  ?????? GUYS.. common... someon must know this, is it working for you guys (i ahev ps/2 mouse)
[21:24] <delf0s> i install the !new!drivers first.. then toggle the administration tool?
[21:24] <justin420> Can anybody help me with getting a Sound Blaster X-Fi card working on hardy? its pci id is 1102:0009
[21:24] <SuN13> adc: i use utorrent stand alone through wine
[21:24] <ReaperWitobi> neurobuntu: From gutsy - the upgrade refuses to finish, because certain repositories seem to be missing, specifically: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/Release, http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-updates/Release, &  http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy-security/Release
[21:24] <tschaka> kjd-ro do you mean in ubuntu in general or in firefox?
[21:24] <neurobuntu> justin420<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:24] <delf0s> or i install the drivers from www.nvidia.com?
[21:24] <Thecool1> hjfghnfjignhkbgijhportgh
[21:24] <Thecool1> h
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[21:25] <Thecool1> g
[21:25] <Sanketsu> ASULutzy, Ok, it seems to be working...  I've got alot more resolutions to choose from, but now I'm updating...  I'll get back with you after the updates are done.
[21:25] <FloodBot1> Thecool1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:25] <Thecool1> hjdfg
[21:25] <Thecool1> h
[21:25] <neurobuntu> justin420: other then what I've just posted I know of no one getting xfi workgin
[21:25] <justin420> thanks neurobuntu; ill have a look at it! :)
[21:25] <DarkAudit> if it weren't for Ubuntu, I'd have never found Picard... cleaning out all the *crap* WMP put in my mp3 collection
[21:25] <neurobuntu> ReaperWitobi: thats weird, have you considered posting to the ubuntu forums?  What about doing a clean reinstall
[21:25] <ASULutzy> Sanketsu: Great! Glad to hear it worked
[21:25] <taime1> is there a tutorial for using compiz on an ati?
[21:25] <tschaka> adc deluge is worht a try too
[21:26] <TuniX12> !compiz
[21:26] <TuniX12> !ati
[21:26]  * Flare183 is back
[21:26] <ReaperWitobi> neurobuntu: I was hoping someone else had had the same problem on the channel.  The forums are my next step.
[21:26] <justin420> deluge kicks @$$
[21:27] <Flare183> !msgthebot | TuniX12
[21:27] <ReaperWitobi> neurobuntu: Thanks for your help any way...
[21:28] <Guest58586> how come when i upgraded from 7.10 to 8.04 my crontab stopped working?
[21:28] <neurobuntu> ReaperWitobi, I usually find better luck on the forums as the conversations are stored and searchable, with IRC its kind of hit or miss
[21:28] <neurobuntu> ReaperWitobi: but thats just me
[21:28] <TuniX12> ok Flare183
[21:28] <awinder> hey guys ive got a quick question, I installed perl 5.10 to run side-by-side with the default perl that shipped on gusty, but if I type "perl" its linking up to the new version instead of the old one
[21:28] <kjd-ro> tschaka: i mean in ubuntu in general.... need to restart GDM, problem is in xorg.conf ... i hope
[21:28] <Sanketsu> ASULutzy, the updates are finished...  I'm in 1360x768 mode, and everything seems a bit squished...  But that might just be my eyes adjusting back from the 1600x1200 tinyness that it was.
[21:28] <awinder> how do i get it to link back to the "old" one?
[21:28] <swirvbox> anyone know of a good audio editor that does work with alsa/pulseaudio?
[21:29] <Thecool1> fhbgshjdfghugvsdfhvjhfnjkghsdjkhfghsjkdf,ghbuhjfnhnhunfbhogkhsdfhbsdufgjsdfbuignbsdhfgsjdfbuiafhguisdhfgsjdfhgskdgfjsdbfjighdfjbghdbfhgsjfgudjfhhfjghdjfshgjsdhfjghsdfjhgjdsfhgsdfgfdfjkgsdkjf
[21:29] <Thecool1> fjgsdf'
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[21:29] <Thecool1> sdf
[21:29] <Thecool1> hd
[21:29] <FloodBot1> Thecool1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:29] <Thecool1> fg
[21:29] <tschaka> swirvbox tried audacity?
[21:29] <MolePrince> Hello.  Has anyone here used the ACR30U smart card reader please?
[21:29] <Sanketsu> ASULutzy, Thanks, I appreciate all the help.
[21:30] <swirvbox> audacity does not work with pulseaudio
[21:31] <Thecool1> ghdf
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[21:31] <Thecool1> sd
[21:31] <Thecool1> g
[21:31] <FloodBot1> Thecool1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:31] <Thecool1> hd
[21:31] <Thecool1> fh
[21:31] <Flare183> Thecool1: don't make me call the ops
[21:31] <kjd-ro> YEX ! mouse scroll still not working !!!!!
[21:31] <justin420> anybody figure out how to get flash on linux 64 bit to not do the fullscreen being choppy on nvidia's gpu's?
[21:32] <MolePrince> I am looking for a driver to use an ACR30U smart card reader with Ubuntu server please.
[21:32] <Flare183> !flash64 | justin420
[21:32] <Leviathan> isnt flash always choppy in fullscreen?
[21:32] <neurobuntu> Leviathan, no
[21:32] <justin420> Leviathan: Not on windows vista home premium 64 bit; which im am sad to say i run :(
[21:33] <SuN13> i had problems going full screen flash in firefox until i disable compiz
[21:33] <hwilde> !offtopic > vista
[21:33] <Leviathan> Saw some improvement with the flash 10 beta and firefox rc's
[21:34] <qt-x> dose ubuntu 8.4 last update have kernel 2.6.24-19-generic ?
[21:34] <Leviathan> other than that... flash is choppy for meh. :)
[21:34] <neurobuntu> when firefox 3 goes final will it be added to the hardy repos?
[21:34] <Rampage> does the slocate database index files on external drives?
[21:34] <Thecool1> g
[21:34] <DarkAudit> Leviathan: is the issue with flash not displaying on occasion a firefox or flash issue?
[21:34] <Thecool1> fg
[21:34] <Thecool1> sdfg
[21:35]  * philosophe Leaves IRC !
[21:35] <neurobuntu> can we BAN thecool1
[21:35] <Rampage> some people are just silly
[21:35] <delf0s> I just installed the NEW nvidia drivers.. and my resolution is horrid.. how can i fix resolution_
[21:35] <Rampage> anyway, any one know about slocate?
[21:36] <adc> tschaka: thank you very much, and where could i search for torrents?
[21:36] <Leviathan> id guess, its flash. Read something at adobes dev blog about.
[21:36] <cincinnatus> Just to put it out there again: my wireless isn't working.  It says it's connected, ifconfig and iwconfig reports look correct, but no program (firefox, ssh, ping) can connect to anything outside of localhost.   Any ideas?
[21:36] <AHA> Wifi wont work on my fresh ubuntu install, but works fine on my two window installs on computers within 5 feet of the ubuntu one. Any help?
[21:36] <hwilde> delf0s, nvidia-settings
[21:36] <Sanketsu> Any chance someone could point me to a Firefox 3 support IRC somewhere?
[21:36] <adc> do those torrent clients also have a search mechanizm?
[21:36] <hwilde> adc, google
[21:36] <adc> ok
[21:36] <tschaka> adc depends on what u want to download. google would be your friend there.
[21:36] <delf0s> hwilde> where do i type that.. in terminal?
[21:37] <kjd-ro> hollaryus... :)) getting creazy here... mouse scroll still aint working at all in 8.04 geee.. that's a HUUGE BUUUG
[21:37] <hwilde> delf0s, yes
[21:37] <Myrtti> Flare183: if he returns, use the holler. I didn't ban him yet
[21:37] <tschaka> kjd-ro did it work in earlier versions?
[21:37] <nickolaus> I am trying to setup a kubuntu box so I access media from my ubuntu laptops could someone please explain why I can't see my files?
[21:37] <adc> tschaka: so searching for words with torrent will deliver results?
[21:37] <Flare183> Myrtti: ok I will
[21:37] <delf0s> hwilde> sudo nvidia-settings?
[21:37] <Flare183> Myrtti: Thanks again
[21:37] <Myrtti> Flare183: if he returns and continues, that is
[21:37] <tschaka> guess so, just try a bit :)
[21:37] <kjd-ro> tschaka ! of course ! i worked in live cd .. before install !!!
[21:37] <Flare183> Myrtti: I understand
[21:37] <justin420> delf0s: or System > Preferences > Screen Resolution and click detect displays? maybe?
[21:37] <Leviathan> DarkAudit, http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/
[21:37] <delf0s> no.. not working
[21:38] <justin420> delf0s: probably gksudo nvidia-settings
[21:38] <DarkAudit> delf0s: nvidia-settings will be in the System>Adminstration menu
[21:38] <qt-x> dose ubuntu 8.4 last update have kernel 2.6.24-19-generic ?
[21:38] <Rampage> umm, does locate index files on external drives?
[21:38] <dbendit> cincinnatus, Can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[21:38] <Rampage> or just ext3 drives?
[21:38] <SuN13> adc: try btjunkie
[21:38] <tschaka> kjd-ro pretty much strange, i'm not that into it, but i'll check google for a few secs :P
[21:38] <Flare183> Rampage: it should index the drive that it is installed on I think
[21:39] <delf0s> i didnt install the drivers from www.nvidia.com... i installed the NEW nvidia drivers that come with ubuntu
[21:39] <Rampage> Flare183: so if you have separate root and home partition? will it index both?
[21:39] <kjd-ro> did that.. and still do ... see how comes up whit a solution faster .. :D
[21:39] <Flare183> Rampage: It should then yes
[21:39] <hwilde> delf0s, not sudo jjust nvidia-settings
[21:39] <cincinnatus> dbendit: nope, i get "sendmsg: operation not permitted"
[21:39] <DarkAudit> delf0s: dvi or VGA connector to your monitor?
[21:40] <delf0s> vga
[21:40] <Rampage> Flare183: ah good, i don't suppose it does ntfs drives?
[21:40] <Flare183> Rampage: I don't think so, let me look to make sure. Give me a second.
[21:41] <hwilde> !ntfs | Rampage
[21:41] <Tstantonfsu> when i am using firefox 3 beta 5 the one htat comes with ubuntu it go unresposive like 5 mins into using it then i wont be able to open a new one
[21:41] <DarkAudit> delf0s: if DVI is an option, try that... the drivers will find and use the monitor's natives settings.. otherwise you may have to adjust the resolution yourself
[21:41] <Flare183> Rampage: nope it doesn't
[21:42] <Rampage> Flare183: okay, thanks for confirming :)
[21:42] <elliotjhug> hi all, I've been able to identify my wireless cards chipset  through lspci on my system - but I have no way of knowing what that translates to in terms of what driver I need - any ideas? I'm trying to get hold of a driver for ndiswrapper
[21:42] <Flare183> Rampage: n[
[21:42] <Flare183> opps
[21:42] <cincinnatus> dbendit: any ideas?  i need to head out, but if you're working on it i can leave you contact info
[21:42] <Flare183> oops*
[21:42] <Flare183> Rampage: no problem
[21:42] <FloodBot1> Flare183: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:42] <DarkAudit> any further and I'll have to start pulling answers out of my butt... neither of us want's that ;0
[21:42] <Flare183> .....
[21:42] <dbendit> cincinnatus, No, sorry...never seen a connection do that before...almost seems like a module problem
[21:42] <Wrec> has anyone reported nautilus or Window Manager errors. This error is my exact problem<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[21:43] <cincinnatus> dbendit: okay, thanks anyway
[21:43] <tschaka> kjd-ro btw, which mouse model do you use? standard 3 button?
[21:43] <SeanL9941> my old system running xp pro amd socket A 2.2ghz 1gb ram , ti4200 video card, cant play 720p video it just stutters..  would ubuntu help me?
[21:43] <ben__> can ne1 help me get these ipwraw intel 3945 drivers working ?  a wifi0 or wlan0 device does not exist
[21:44] <SuN13> elliotjhug: what is your chipset and what version ubuntu you running
[21:44] <ben__> 3945 7.10
[21:44] <vikram> SeanL9941, well it will allow you to fine tune your system, which you cannot do with XP
[21:44] <vikram> SeanL9941, i'd definitely give it a go
[21:44] <SeanL9941> yea im just thinking without buying more ram..or a new comuter
[21:44] <danbhfive> SeanL9941: I don't think anyone can answer that without trying it out.  You could try Wubi.  Thats supposed to let you try Ubuntu out without much changes
[21:44] <elliotjhug> SuN13: Ubuntu 8.04 64bit with Atheros Communications Inc. AR5413 802.11abg NIC - which madwifi doesn't work with
[21:45] <nano> hi
[21:45] <SeanL9941> ok another question, i am getting a live cd version of ubuntu, will that give me a real world example of how it would run installed?
[21:45] <delf0s> i installed the nvidia settings.. but it doesnt let me pick higher resolutions.. how can i fix that?
[21:45] <vikram> minus the sluggish'ness from the cdrom drive, yes sorta
[21:45] <nano> nanopaprika.eu a interesting social networ, somebody works in nano field?
[21:45] <Myrtti> SeanL9941: roughly yes, though a slower one
[21:45] <kjd-ro> !!! MOUSE SUPORT SUCKS.. !!! it's 23:45 here and tommorow this pc must work ... for my boss not to fuck me... !!!
[21:45] <ASULutzy> SeanL9941: It should run a little bit better after it's installed of course, since you won't have the overhead you do with a live-cd
[21:45] <ben__> how do u scroll up in bitchx ?
[21:46] <danbhfive> SeanL9941: yes, except for resctricted drivers / content
[21:46] <tschaka> kjd-ro btw, which mouse model do you use? standard 3 button?
[21:46] <kjd-ro> yes standard
[21:46] <SeanL9941> ok, would it recognize my wifi/dvd drive/mouse/keyboard/videocard...etc and if all that works can i get to my nas with all my music/movieS?
[21:46] <kjd-ro> ps/2
[21:46] <thenetduck> is there a channel for help with programming?
[21:46] <kjd-ro> brand new...
[21:46] <SuN13> elliotjhug: are the restricted drivers installed
[21:46] <SeanL9941> er...if it(live cd) doesnt see my wifi adaptor, would instlling the full ubuntu help?
[21:46] <nano> www.nanopaprika.eu
[21:46] <danbhfive> delf0s: im jumping in the middle i think, but why didnt you use the driver manager?
[21:46] <poypoy> is anyone useiing ubuntu 1.8 ultimate edition
[21:47] <tschaka> guess u tried Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" in xorg.conf mouse section already?
[21:47] <elliotjhug> thenetduck: programming is a BIG topic - try finding a language specifically - or tutorials
[21:47] <kjd-ro> SeanL9941 NO WAY
[21:47] <ASULutzy> kjd-ro: a PS/2 mouse should just work out of the box I would think, did you try reconfiguring xorg? sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[21:47] <elliotjhug> SuN13: Yes they are - not working. Getting the error [291012.817678] wifi%d: unable to attach hardware: 'Hardware self-test failed' (HAL status 14)
[21:47] <tschaka> kjd-ro guess u tried Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" in xorg.conf mouse section already?
[21:47] <Jimboy> Hi - New to this Ubuntu - Running Hardy Heron w/Gnome desktop - my display is currently 1600 X 1200 - Would like to make resolution bigger - How about 1024 X768 - Would this be ok?
[21:47] <kjd-ro> tschaka: u gess right... not thing
[21:47] <thenetduck> elliotjhug, looking for php programming hel p
[21:47] <yeniklasor> Is there any way to connect a wireless network on command line ?
[21:47] <elliotjhug> SuN13: Which according to the madwifi bug tracker is a common issue
[21:47] <delf0s> i did use the driver manager.. everything is installed.. but for some reason... im getting really really low resolutions
[21:47] <tschaka> SeanL9941 it could help i guess.
[21:47] <ASULutzy> yeniklasor: Yea, use iwconfig
[21:47] <danbhfive> yeniklasor: iwconfig
[21:47] <neurobuntu> yeniklasor: YES! try google
[21:47] <kjd-ro> tschaka: i even tyryed emulate3 button mouse option
[21:48] <yeniklasor> ok :D
[21:48] <kjd-ro> tshine: nothing
[21:48] <tschaka> kjd-ro tried to reconfigure xserver with the command ASULutzy recommended?
[21:48] <SeanL9941> for someone like me total noob to linux, how do i go about getting drivers for stuff? example my usb belkin wifi
[21:48] <nickolaus> I am trying to setup a kubuntu box so I access media from my ubuntu laptops could someone please explain why I can't see my files?
[21:48] <ASULutzy> kjd-ro: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[21:48] <kjd-ro> no.. hmmm can you past repet that ?
[21:48] <elliotjhug> thenetduck: try online documentation or #php perhaps?
[21:49] <kjd-ro> ASULutzy: i need save VGA, cus normal VGA ain working..
[21:49] <nano> nanoscience www.nanopaprika.eu
[21:49] <danbhfive> SeanL9941: the story is, that allot of wifi cards don't have support in linux, but there is a program called ndiswrapper that lets you use the windows driver
[21:49] <kjd-ro> ASULutzy: gess -phigh is for high resolution...
[21:49] <danbhfive> !wireless > SeanL9941 start here
[21:49] <SeanL9941> is there a 'windows media center' like version of linux? that might be better then ubuntu? and i dont currently use wmc, i just use vlc
[21:50] <thenetduck> ty
[21:50] <Pixeltime> Anyone else using Screenlets ?
[21:50] <danbhfive> kjd-ro: -phigh is not for high resolution
[21:50] <delf0s> how can i manually over ride monitor resolutions
[21:50] <kjd-ro> danbhfive: restaring now
[21:51] <Majost> Has anyone seen an issue with building binary-custom kernels, and at the very end when it is building the package it errors out saying: "dh_installchangelogs: package linux-image-2.6.24-18-core2 is not in control info"
[21:51] <pen> how do I make evdev detect my vx revolution after boot?
[21:51] <SeanL9941> do i just need to partition my harddrive and then pop the (install)disc in and pick the letter? or is there more to it, cause i will keep xp and would like both xp and ubuntu
[21:51] <Tstantonfsu> how do i install firefox 2 after i download it
[21:51] <pen> my mouse can't work if I don't plug the receiver in before boot
[21:52] <genius> hello! I use Compiz-Fusion and due some error i have lost all decorations! I have console. How to fix?
[21:52] <Pixeltime> I am using a VX revo, it just works
[21:52] <SuN13> elliotjhug: what kernel restricted driver do you have installed
[21:52] <kjd-ro> hello back.. still no succes ...whit mouse scroll!!!!
[21:52] <Pixeltime> best moue ever made
[21:52] <Skitt> genius: which DE are you using?
[21:52] <Majost> Tstantonfsu: You should just be able to do 'sudo apt-get install firefox-2'
[21:52] <danbhfive> SeanL9941: well, the best is to make 3 partitions for linux (its a partition hog)
[21:53] <SeanL9941> what would i do with the 3rd?
[21:53] <RULR_> how to reconnect my dsl from icon?
[21:53] <Rampage> SeanL9941: 1 for swap, 1 root, 1 home partition
[21:53] <ASULutzy> SeanL9941: I'm lazy, I just have a root "/" partition and a swap partition. If you really want you can make /boot a separate partition, and /home a separate
[21:53] <elliotjhug> SuN13: nm - I've got a solution here
[21:53] <genius> Skitt, what is DE? you mean Hardy?
[21:53] <elliotjhug> SuN13: Thanks for the help
[21:53] <Rampage> i'm even lazier, no swap just one linux partition
[21:53] <flaccid_> whats the go with ubuntuu brainstorm showing ticks on the website for items not implemented ?
[21:53] <SeanL9941> im to much of a noob i guess
[21:54] <genius> Skitt, gnome!
[21:54] <Majost> Rampage: you really need to have a swap
[21:54] <danbhfive> SeanL9941: how do you even know what to do with the second?    What others is saying is true btw
[21:54] <Rampage> Majost: nope, no swap
[21:54] <danbhfive> ASULutzy: why a separate /boot?
[21:54] <Pixeltime> Swap is pretty important
[21:54] <ASULutzy> danbhfive: I don't have it setup that way, but I've seen people separate /boot on another partition
[21:54] <Majost> swap is very important
[21:54] <tschaka> kjd-ro upload your xorg.conf to pastebin?
[21:54] <Majost> heh
[21:54] <Rampage> Majost: using a dell, so already 3 partitions used, and i was too lazy to bother with extended partitions so just have one extra for linux
[21:55] <SeanL9941> xp pro amd 2500+ oc'd @ 2.2ghz 1gb pc3200 , nvidia ti4200 80gb and 200gb and i want it to see my network drives (4tb's)
[21:55] <danbhfive> ASULutzy: yes, I have too, and they report problems when trying to upgrade.  I don't understand the advantage
[21:55] <sinisterporpoise> okay...  anyone familiar enough with DEbian to help me with a wireless netowrking card problem?
[21:55] <ASULutzy> I would argue that swap is pretty important, but on my desktop the output of free -m never really has swap being used ryan@ryan-desktop:~$ free -m
[21:55] <ASULutzy>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[21:55] <ASULutzy> Mem:          3959       1944       2015          0        487       1053
[21:55] <ASULutzy> -/+ buffers/cache:        402       3556
[21:55] <ASULutzy> Swap:         9381          0       9381
[21:55] <FloodBot1> ASULutzy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:55] <ASULutzy> Oh whoops
[21:55] <Rampage> Majost: I have 2GB ram, and i rarely use over 1gb in a session, even when i used windows i used to disable pagefile
[21:55] <Majost> Rampage: If you use all your available ram, you are likely to have weird crashes
[21:55] <Majost> when linux runs out of memory
[21:55] <danbhfive> ASULutzy: in theory, you can mount every folder as a separate partition
[21:55] <Skitt> genius: a metacity --replace should fix it for the moment
[21:55] <Majost> and there is no available swap
[21:55] <sinisterporpoise> <-- which is why I'm not running Ubuntu on this laptop
[21:55] <Majost> it just kills ANY random process
[21:56] <ASULutzy> danbhfive: Well, you'd have to use extended partitions, but yea
[21:56] <Rampage> Majost: yeah, i just have to be careful i don't do that i guess
[21:56] <tschaka> http://paste.ubuntu.com kjd-ro
[21:56] <flaccid_> can anyone comment on ubuntu brainstorm ie. http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com , it appears to be misleading
[21:56] <Majost> Rampage: Thats pretty hard to do seeing that it caches everything. =P
[21:56] <danbhfive> SeanL9941: Are you using a whole drive for Ubuntu?
[21:56] <sinisterporpoise> anyway, my dhclient keeps coming up with a  no working leases in persistent database error message.  Can anyone help?
[21:56] <ASULutzy> But yea, I would certainly recommend everyone have a swap partition
[21:56] <SeanL9941> i have yet to get ubuntu at al
[21:56] <SeanL9941> all
[21:57] <delf0s> ahas anyone had problems with resolution with the nvidia drivers?
[21:57] <Rampage> Majost: so far i've never used more than 1gb of my ram, and thats with leaving firefox and thunderbird on for ages, and as a precaution i tend to restart X after a few days
[21:57] <SeanL9941> id like to keep xp installed and just have dual boot
[21:57] <AHA> Wifi wont work on my fresh ubuntu install, but works fine on my two window installs on computers within 5 feet of the ubuntu one. Any help?
[21:57]  * flaccid_ thinks this channel is a case of too many cooks
[21:57] <Majost> Whatever works for you I suppose...
[21:57]  * Majost shrugs
[21:57] <danbhfive> Aha: whats the card?
[21:57] <Jimboy> Hi - I'm using FireFox 3 - I need to use another browser besides Firefox - How about Opera ? Any suggestions ? ?
[21:57] <Pixeltime> Swap is also used for application startup, for things that will only be used ONCE
[21:57] <nickolaus> How would I stream media from a kubuntu computer to a ubuntu computer?
[21:57] <ASULutzy> SeanL9941: setting up a dualboot really isn't that hard... It can be tricky if you only have one hard drive and NTFS is taking up all of it, but the install cd should be able to resize it for you?
[21:58] <flaccid_> nickolaus, any way you like
[21:58] <AHA> danbhfive, some integrated one. Its a laptop. Wifi worked fine on the previous version on ubuntu
[21:58] <Rampage> Majost: i'm planning on getting a desktop, well build one so will sort that one out with proper partitions
[21:58] <nickolaus> flaccid what software do I use?
[21:58] <ASULutzy> SeanL9941:  the install cd pretty much takes care of the entire dualboot for you and sets up grub correctly
[21:58] <kjd-ro> ahaaaaaaa i am getting there.... !!!
[21:58] <SeanL9941> is there a 'noobish' step by step online somewhere i can view?  i looked and i couldnt get all my answers
[21:58] <flaccid_> nickolaus, samba
[21:58] <danbhfive> AHA: I would file a bug report then
[21:58] <ASULutzy> kjd-ro: so reconfiguring xserver worked?
[21:58] <kjd-ro> XORG config PROBLEM !!! geee soo nubish .. to mess up this as well
[21:59] <SeanL9941> ok, i just didnt wanna trust it thats all, dont want to loose anything on that comp
[21:59] <Pixeltime> The install CD can partition, make the partitions, migrate windows settings, and setup dual boot
[21:59] <nickolaus> flaccid okay I have samba setup but I am unable to view my media files.
[21:59] <AHA> danbhfive, but there is nothing i can do in the meantime?
[21:59] <SuN13> Jimboy: goto ad/remove program and search for browser
[21:59] <tschaka> kjd-ro whats up? :D
[21:59] <flaccid_> nickolaus, explain why
[21:59] <ASULutzy> SeanL9941: Well, I would certainly make sure you check with others that you know what you're doing. If you tell it to format your NTFS partition it will
[21:59] <Rampage> Majost: i would have thought 2gb ram would be sufficient under normal use?
[21:59] <ASULutzy> SeanL9941: You don't want it to do that :)
[21:59] <TuniX12> AHA file to the manufacturer
[21:59] <Rampage> hmm, guess i'll stop being lazy and sort out my partitions
[21:59] <kjd-ro> ASULutzy: no, actually it is not working.. i think it dosnt generate config file corectly.. i am chaking a wolrking config file .. a sec..
[21:59] <danbhfive> AHA:  well, you would need to figure out what card you have, since the problem you have is likely specific to it
[21:59] <sinisterporpoise> no  help with getting the wirless networking card to connect to the Internet? I've gotten the driver installed with Ndiswrapper, but it seems that I'm not getting assigned an IP address
[21:59] <tschaka> nickolaus you might want to try gnump3d
[22:00] <Jimboy> SuN13: Thanks installing Opera ok.....
[22:00] <flaccid_> hmmm too many indians no chiefs in this channel
[22:00] <ASULutzy> sinisterporpoise: This may be noobish of me, but I remember with my laptop just using ndiswrapper -i didn't work quite right for me, but I installed ndisgtk, a graphical front end for ndiswrapper, and told it what windows driver to use and everything just worked
[22:00] <kjd-ro> tschaka: everithing is down.... moral and nervs.. and all
[22:00] <tschaka> nickolaus its a browser based system, so you can browse and open your files directly through your browser.
[22:00] <Pixeltime> sinisterporpoise: Did you do ALL the settings, for ndis
[22:01] <tschaka> kjd-ro yea, can imagine this. but did u found some solution or something?
[22:01] <SeanL9941> i am looking at like 6 different versions of kubuntu dont even konw which one to get i see desktop cd - alternate install cd - desktop dvd  and there is Kubuntu Xubuntu and Ubuntu all version 8.04  (hardy heron)
[22:01] <sinisterporpoise> here's the problem -- I've got it working under Ubuntu just fine, but Ubuntu doesn't work well on this older laptop.  I installed samba on it and set some of the folders to share but they're not showing up on any of the network computers.
[22:01] <kjd-ro> tschaka: i think .. check this out.. what is the pastebin address ?
[22:01] <fuffwork> is there any linux equivalants to programs like onenote (for using a tablet for note taking)
[22:01] <joaopinto> sinisterporpoise, please ask on #debian, not here
[22:01] <tschaka> http://paste.ubuntu.com kjd-ro
[22:01] <SeanL9941> i mean dvd..more stuff in the install?
[22:01] <danbhfive> SeanL9941: probably
[22:02] <SeanL9941> so ..useless?
[22:02] <SuN13> SeanL9941: depends on what hardware u want and what your needs are
[22:02] <flaccid_> nickolaus, that doesn't say much. i have nothing to go on. learn samba and linux?
[22:02] <sinisterporpoise> I can try but since they are the same underlying system the process hould be the same
[22:02] <SuN13> u got*
[22:02] <RULR_> can anyone tell me how to reconnect my dsl connection from desktop icon?
[22:02] <SeanL9941> i just want an alternative to xp on my old-outddated-but still working amd/htpc
[22:02] <Pixeltime> Alternate CD is if you need extra install options, such as some unsported hardware
[22:02] <CaptainAmerica> when i installed ubuntu i accedentally got rid of my Windows XP OS how do i reinstall??
[22:03] <joaopinto> CaptainAmerica, please join ##windows
[22:03] <Pixeltime> Use a live CD, test it all out, then install from it
[22:03] <CaptainAmerica> joaopinto: kk
[22:03] <SuN13> SeanL9941: well if it is too old ubuntu desktop will not run as well
[22:03] <kjd-ro> check this out: http://paste.ubuntu.com/18890/       !!!!!
[22:03] <danbhfive> SeanL9941: just go with the desktop cd.  I think its what you are looking for.  After you get it installed, the cd you picked won't make much of a difference
[22:03] <SeanL9941> Sun its 2.2ghz 1gb ram
[22:04] <SeanL9941> ok dan, thanks
[22:04] <Rampage> SeanL9941: ubuntu will be fine on that
[22:04] <SuN13> SeanL9941: yeah but i dont think u will be 3d effects
[22:04] <tschaka> kjd-ro is this your whole xorg.conf?
[22:04] <SeanL9941> yea, i had it installed on my 1.5centrino frankenlaptop for about a week looong time ago ran beryl and all that jazz but didtn do much with it
[22:04] <tschaka> kjd-ro and does X still start normally after u ran dpkg?
[22:04] <Luig1> Hi there. I'm looking at this (http://preview.tinyurl.com/2d6dnq) USB external hard disk drive, and it seems to be going for a good price, but I fear that I may have to install some kind of 'drive manager' or something to take hold of the 'advanced features'. Are my fears founded?
[22:05] <joaopinto> erm, did anyone add any issues with the latest firefox upgrade ?
[22:05] <SeanL9941> ti4200 can run quake 3 pretty good :)
[22:05] <Tar-Get> does someone know the command make mysql a command, so i don't have to change directory to the mysql path?
[22:05] <ASULutzy> Luig1: What advanced features do you mean?
[22:05] <Pengytheduckwin> When I switched from vista, my wireless Internet connection won't work, did anyone else have this problem and if so can you help me?
[22:05] <Rampage> Luig1: external hard drives are formatted FAT32 by default and ubuntu reads that fine
[22:05] <Pixeltime> Luig1: Its a good drive, just plug it in
[22:06] <SeanL9941> ok, so now i need to know Kubuntu Xubuntu or just Ubuntu
[22:06] <ASULutzy> Luig1: It's USB, USB is plug and play on pretty much any operating system
[22:06] <Pixeltime> no drivers or whatever
[22:06] <kjd-ro> tschaka: yes ....
[22:06] <tschaka> kjd-ro         Identifier      "Configured Mouse"
[22:06] <tschaka>         Driver          "vmmouse" thats all my xorg says for my mouse. worked out of the box. Section InputDevice
[22:06] <nickolaus> flaccid okay I got it working now when I try to use media on it without copy/paste I get Unable to open 'smb://yahweh/Media1/Full Metal Panic/[BakaKozou]Full_Metal_Panic_TSR_-_02_[15D95CF8].avi'
[22:06] <Luig1> ASULutzy: Well, it says 'Includes drive management features like automatic power-up and LED status lights.'
[22:06] <Flare183> !paste | tschaka
[22:06] <Rampage> SeanL9941: depends what interface you want, gnome, kde or xfce
[22:06] <danbhfive> Luig1: well, you probably simply wont get those feature on ubuntu, at least not the way they list it.  You can probably get those features otherways.  So yes, your fears are founded
[22:06] <Pixeltime> works on windows, PS3, linux, mac outa the box
[22:06] <tschaka> Flare183 soz, thought for 2 lines it would be ok.
[22:06] <SeanL9941> Rampage: dont know the diff...ill look it up, unless u can give it to me stright
[22:06] <Flare183> tschaka: I'm just saying...
[22:06] <Luig1> Well, thanks everyone! I guess I'll just buy it and send it back if it doesn't work right or something.
[22:07] <ASULutzy> Luig1: ... I don't know that I would consider those advanced features per say lol, but yea, the LED's should work just fine. All completely plug and play
[22:07] <SeanL9941> which is the most user friendly?
[22:07] <tschaka> i suggested some guy to use pastebin 2 mins earlier. but thx anyway :)
[22:07] <kjd-ro> i hate this... still not working...
[22:07] <SuN13> SeanL9941: ubuntu
[22:07] <Rampage> SeanL9941: i myself don;t know what the key differences are, but from what i have read its the way the graphical interface is bundled and they have their own bundles of appliactions
[22:07] <ASULutzy> Luig1: Video cards, and other weird PCI devices can be tricky in Linux, but USB storage is pretty much universal across all OS
[22:07] <Rampage> SeanL9941: all 3 are user friendly, i use gnome (so standard ubuntu)
[22:08] <SeanL9941> alright i;ll give it a go, ill probably be back in a few hours with many questions :)
[22:08] <Slashx> Anyone here use Audacity?
[22:08] <afallenhope> where's the device manager in Hardy Heron?
[22:08] <Rampage> goodluck SeanL9941
[22:08] <nickolaus> when I try to stream media via samba shares in konqueror I get an error in vlc Unable to open 'smb://yahweh/Media1/Full Metal Panic/[BakaKozou]Full_Metal_Panic_TSR_-_02_[15D95CF8].avi'
[22:08] <ASULutzy> SeanL9941: I prefer gnome, but lots of people are die hard KDE fans. Really a matter of preference
[22:08] <SuN13> SeanL9941: I installed on my thinkpad 2.2 ghz and it basically installed itself no problems
[22:08] <nickolaus> any ideas?
[22:08] <SeanL9941> nice :) thanks alot guyus
[22:08] <dieter_> Hi everyone, i m not able to install ubuntu. I erased gutsy to do a fresh install of hardy, but installing from live cd freezes my pc at 22%(copying files). I tried the alternate cd, but there the installation freezes at 18%(per of gsfont configuration). The cd's are checked and are fine. Any ideas?
[22:08] <Slashx> Anyone have a package for Audacity VST?
[22:08] <Luig1> ASULutzy: yeah, LEDs aren't exactly futuristic, but it said 'drive management', so I figured they were some kind of customizable LED readout or something.
[22:08] <SeanL9941> peace out
[22:09] <Rampage> Luig1: i wouldn't worry about that
[22:09] <tschaka> kjd-ro >> private msg
[22:09] <Pixeltime> I know for a fact, THAT drive will work on the systems I mentioned, out of the box
[22:10] <Rampage> Luig1: i have a seagate internal and samsung internal drives connected to my laptop via a usb caddy and it works fine (both formatted NTFS)
[22:10] <gorg> which torrent-klient is the best for ubuntu?
[22:10] <Rampage> gorg: i like rtorrent
[22:10] <tschaka> gorg deluge, transmission
[22:10] <ASULutzy> gorg: Preference. But I love rtorrent
[22:10] <gorg> hmz :)
[22:10] <Pixeltime> gorg: I use Transmision
[22:10] <ASULutzy> gorg: But only because it lets me download stuff on my home machine from work using ssh, if you want a flashy GUI, you can't go wrong with azureus
[22:10] <Rampage> gordonjcp: rtorrent is command line and very easy to use plus very light on system resources
[22:10] <gorg> seems like its 50/50 Transmission / rtorrent :)
[22:11] <ASULutzy> gorg: Yea, again rTorrent is all command line
[22:11] <TuniX12> i have a stupid question the ubuntu offical kernel is i686 only??
[22:11] <david_> gorg Transmision here cos it has a gui
[22:11] <danbhfive> ASULutzy: heh, I found azureus to be very buggy on linux, almost unworkable
[22:11] <SuN13> gorg: i used utorrent standalone with wine..works perfect
[22:11] <patricknn> how do you change gnome-do key commands?
[22:11] <david_> TuniX12: using AMD64
[22:11] <Rampage> ASULutzy: the ncurses interface for rtorrent makes it rather easy to use don't you think?
[22:11] <ASULutzy> gorg, danbhfive: I used azureus for a while... It was alright, I bet most of the linux problems on azureus are related to java being weird at times
[22:11] <DarkAudit> danbhfive: the officia package, or the Vuze verzion?
[22:11] <tschaka> gorg transmission is light and easy. deluge comes with some more options and stuff. azureus is way to heavy for my taste + it runs on java, which brings many dependencies.
[22:11] <DarkAudit> official*
[22:11] <solexious> [Q] How can i use rm to remove any files ending in .ini from current folder and folders inside current folders?
[22:11] <gorg> thanks for all reply, i would have to consider a little
[22:12] <Rampage> java is a memory hog too
[22:12] <nickolaus> anyone know how to stream movies/music from a kubuntu computer via samba shares?
[22:12] <ASULutzy> Rampage: Oh, I've never used a front end for rTorrent. I only use it so like I said, while I'm at work like I am now, I can ssh to my desktop at home and tell it to start downloading stuff so it'll be there waiting for me when I get back
[22:12] <flaccid_> i never get help here. get some chefs.
[22:12] <Lenny1729> Hi, did anyone run into problems with firefox after the update to rc1?
[22:12] <david_> find -name "*.ini" | xargs rm
[22:12] <ASULutzy> Lenny1729: You mean RC2?
[22:12] <Rampage> ASULutzy: thats how i use it too, it has no graphical frontend
[22:12] <TuniX12> david_: amd64 is not the same as i686 right?
[22:12] <tschaka> nickolaus either u configure samba properly (samba tutorlias, + edit smb.conf) or use gnump3d its a media streaming server.
[22:13] <tschaka> nickolaus its in the repos.
[22:13] <danbhfive> DarkAudit: the official package.  This was when I first started on ubuntu, on dapper.  I knew Azureus from windows, so I used it, but it crashed all the time.  On windows, it was great...
[22:13] <david_> TuniX12: no i686 is PentiumPro 32-bit
[22:14] <TuniX12> david_ how i get an optimized kernel for intel core duo without compiling please?
[22:14] <Lenny1729> ASULutzy: synaptic says rc1
[22:14] <Rampage> Lenny1729: is there an update to rc1?
[22:14] <Rampage> i didn't think there was
[22:14] <ASULutzy> Lenny1729: Oh, weird, on firefox's homepage they link to RC2
[22:14] <gordonjcp> Rampage: ?
[22:14] <DarkAudit> danbhfive: I've got the 3.0 Vuze version, seems to work fine for me... actually better than in Windows here
[22:14] <Lenny1729> Rampage: no, not in the ubuntu repository
[22:14] <ASULutzy> http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-rc.html
[22:14] <Rampage> ah okay Lenny1729
[22:14] <Rampage> gordonjcp: whats that>
[22:14] <Lenny1729> After my last upgrade firefox doesn't start
[22:15] <nickolaus> tschaka do I install gnump on the computer receiving the file of the one sending?
[22:15] <Lenny1729> anymore
[22:15] <DarkAudit> all my torrents were yellow in windows, not in Linux, and my ISP and router settings never changed
[22:15] <gordonjcp> Rampage: you highlighted me talking about torrent clients?
[22:15] <Rampage> what does yellow mean
[22:15] <solexious> [Q] How can i use rm to remove any files ending in .ini from current folder and folders inside current folders?
[22:15] <david_> TuniX12: if u want fully optimized you probably need to compile it yourself, but personally I would  stick with either 32bit or 64bit generic kernels
[22:15] <ASULutzy> solexious: Someone already gave you the answer to that if you scroll up
[22:15] <Lenny1729> Rampage, ASULutzy: firefox starts up with a strange yellow window and a XUL error
[22:15] <tschaka> nickolaus u need to install gnump3d only on the host server. the clients will connect via your favorite browser.
[22:15] <david_> solexious:  find . -name "*.ini" | xargs rm
[22:15] <DarkAudit> did Firefox RC2 post since yesterday morning? -proposed had RC1 yesterday morning US EDT
[22:16] <kevinh90> I am having trouble getting the builtin compiz to work on hardy
[22:16] <Slart> solexious: david answered that one already
[22:16] <solexious> ASULutzy: sorry must have missed it, ty
[22:16] <Rampage> hmm, sorry gordonjcp just saw it was a typo and poor tabcompletion from me
[22:16] <Rampage> sorry bout that gordonjcp
[22:16] <nickolaus> tschaka samba is saying that I don't have permission...
[22:16] <tschaka> nickolaus gnump3d creates playlists for every folder and comes with a nice web interface. + it streams movies too
[22:16] <kevinh90> my computer has a internal graphics card that is blacklisted
[22:16] <Rampage> Lenny1729: no idea, sorru
[22:16] <Rampage> *sorry
[22:16] <solexious> david_: Thank you
[22:16] <kevinh90> i am not using that card, but compiz still sees it and wont run because of it
[22:16] <ASULutzy> tschaka, nickolaus: I love gnump3d, use it all day at work to stream my mp3's to me
[22:16] <tschaka> nickolaus u gotta edit smb.conf then most likely
[22:16] <tschaka> :)
[22:17] <kevinh90> my other card is a nvidia, and it works with compiz(it worked before installing some updates)
[22:17] <yesudeep2> nickolaus: Or you can install system-config-samba and use that to configure samba
[22:17] <kevinh90> is there a way to remove a line from blacklisting?
[22:18] <Jimboy> Any suggestion what I would use to get my scanner working - It's a Epson 2480 ? ? ?
[22:18] <nickolaus> asulutzy could you help me configure it?
[22:18] <Malik_> i got a question
[22:18] <patricknn> anyone have a  nvidia card with s-video out?
[22:18] <carpet_the_walls> hi, i have a dir full of files in the form "thing.jpg.gz" how can i recurrsivly remove all the .gz extensions from all files please
[22:18] <benpicco> Hi, has someone experience with effectv? Where can I add plugins?
[22:18] <kjd-ro> >>>this is soo fck up <<< no mouse scroll .... guys i am too out to think.. where else can it be disabled ???  or enabled ? how can i check ?
[22:19] <ASULutzy> nickolaus: I suppose, what's the problem?
[22:19] <Rampage> carpet_the_walls: don't you want to extract the contents rather than remove the file extension?
[22:19] <kevinh90> patricknn: I have an nvidia card with svideo out, although I have never tried to use the svideo out
[22:19] <rado_> start
[22:19] <nickolaus> asulutzy I just installed gnump on the host computer. what do I do now?
[22:19] <Saar> please check:  http://pastebin.com/d16a7ac9e My question is how to resolve this? The files it complains about do not exist
[22:19] <ASULutzy> nickolaus: You need to edit /etc/gnump3d/gump3d.conf to point to your media
[22:20] <Rampage> hmm, firefox updates, wonder what version the repos have now
[22:20] <Saar> this is a result of someone upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04 without removing envy
[22:20] <carpet_the_walls> Rampage:  i ran "gzip *.* >> zipfile.zip" and it added .gz to all the files ???, so now i need to remove the .gz so i can have another go at zipping them
[22:20] <patricknn> kevinh90: yeah i've been trying for a while with no luck the xorg files confuse me
[22:20] <nickolaus> asulutzy okay, I'm there how so?
[22:20] <ASULutzy> nickolaus: one sec, let me open it
[22:20] <david_> lmao
[22:20] <kjd-ro> ahaaa... gdm.log>>>(EE) VMWARE(0): vmmouse enable failed
[22:21] <afallenhope> is there a cam software that supports JPEG cameraS?
[22:21] <ASULutzy> nickolaus: Just scroll down a bit and there'll be a line called root = /something/
[22:21] <david_> carpet_the_walls: use gunzip *.gz
[22:21] <Rampage> carpet_the_walls: i normally prefer tar, or rar for this sort, but hmm, i guess you could do a script to rename the files
[22:21] <ASULutzy> nickolaus: Change that to root = /the/path/of/your/music
[22:21] <Rampage> use calc i suppose carpet_the_walls
[22:21] <nomopofomo> Did anyone else just have to update Firefox?
[22:21] <Rampage> nomopofomo: yes
[22:22] <Rampage> nomopofomo: updating now actually
[22:22] <nomopofomo> Is that the final version of 3.0
[22:22] <nomopofomo> I wonder...
[22:22] <carpet_the_walls> Rampage: not familiar with calc, ill look it up, thanks for your help
[22:22] <nomopofomo> Kind of exciting
[22:22] <yesudeep2> Rampage: What does aptitude show firefox show you?
[22:22] <Rampage> nomopofomo: no idea, i'll install and check
[22:22] <ASULutzy> nomopofomo: if you go to firefox's website, they're at release candidate 2 of ff
[22:22] <yesudeep2> Mine shows me rc1
[22:22] <ASULutzy> ff3*
[22:22] <Rampage> carpet_the_walls: ok, what i would do is "ls | grep -i ".jpg""
[22:23] <nomopofomo> I noticed, ASULutzy, but sometimes software is released before it is announced.
[22:23] <Saar> anyone?
[22:23] <ASULutzy> nomopofomo: Well, RC2 only came out on June 4th
[22:23] <Rampage> carpet_the_walls: stick all those names in coulmn b and c, and put mv in column a, and then in coulmn c run a replace to remove the .gz
[22:24] <nomopofomo> ASULutzy, indeed.
[22:24] <Rampage> then make that a sh script by copying to gedit carpet_the_walls and done
[22:24] <Y-Town> anyone have any suggestions for firewall and antivirus for 8.04?  I know there are a couple in repos but would kinda like to hear whats simply and efficient to use
[22:24] <carpet_the_walls> Rampage: thankyou!
[22:24] <kjd-ro> question: where can i find the mouse driver for xorg..  to specify in the config file.. ????
[22:24] <Majost> Has anyone seen an issue with building binary-custom kernels, where at the very end when it is building the package it errors out with: "dh_installchangelogs: package linux-image-2.6.24-18-optimized is not in control info"
[22:24] <nickolaus> asulutzy root =/var/music?
[22:24] <ASULutzy> Y-Town: Don't bother
[22:24] <Rampage> Y-Town: firewall is already installed, iptables
[22:24] <yesudeep2> Y-Town: You don't need an antivirus on Ubuntu.
[22:24] <moDumass> hey all just realised that when i press the cz key I get the zc key also... any ideas..
[22:24] <kjd-ro> << thinking, maybe the driver is missing ... need to check it
[22:24] <Rampage> carpet_the_walls: you're welcome
[22:24] <ASULutzy> nickolaus: Where is your music saved? Yea you'd want to change root = /var/music to root = /where/your/music/is
[22:24] <tschaka> kjd-ro did you read my priv messages?
[22:25] <moDumass> hang on C key and Z key register and both keys
[22:25] <Rampage> Y-Town: only time you want an antivirus is if you are running a mail server
[22:25] <kjd-ro> no, just logged in...
[22:25] <nomopofomo> ASULutzy, would it say Firefox 3.0 RC2 in the "About Mozilla Firefox" dialog?
[22:25] <Y-Town> I know I dont need antivirus for me and ubuntu but I do have a coupe win boxes on my network
[22:25] <yesudeep2> Rampage: Any form of communication middleman or file storage area too.
[22:25] <ASULutzy> nomopofomo: No, I just installed RC2 on my windows VM and it doesn't mention RC2
[22:25] <kjd-ro> tschaka: could you repost it ???
[22:25] <gorg> as i am a newbie with linux, should i use Transmission, or would you think i can manage rtorrent as it seems to have the nice feature of starting stuff from work?
[22:25] <Y-Town> Rampage: is there any GUI for iptables available?
[22:25] <nomopofomo> ASULutzy, ah.
[22:26] <CaptainAmerica> How do i install wine??
[22:26] <mDemocritus> gorg: how comfortable are you with console?
[22:26] <Renate> hi all.  ubuntu n00b here, needs help before she pulls her hair out.
[22:26] <nomopofomo> sudo apt-get install wine
[22:26] <yesudeep2> CaptainAmerica: sudo aptitude install wine
[22:26] <Rampage> hmm, mine just says firefox 3, nothing about rc1 or rc2
[22:26] <MrPocknix> I've set up VSFTPD as a FTP server
[22:26] <solexious> [Q] What do I need to have installed to have my ipod show up in Rythambox?
[22:26] <MrPocknix> how do i select which files I want shared, or access them from other computers?
[22:26] <magnetron> !wine > CaptainAmerica
[22:26] <yesudeep2> solexious: It should show up automagically does it not?
[22:26] <Rampage> Y-Town: there are gui's for iptables, but i like to do it command line
[22:26] <nickolaus> asulutzy my music is on my network computer called Yahweh in a media drive called media 1
[22:26] <yesudeep2> MrPocknix: You use Samba and right click the drive you wish to share in nautilus.
[22:26] <Rampage> Y-Town: and i script a lot of the firewall commands, where a gui is useless
[22:27] <Y-Town> Rampage: kewl thanx
[22:27] <RULR_> how to set rythmbox music player for default mp3 player
[22:27] <yesudeep2> s/drive/directory/
[22:27] <Rampage> Y-Town: read the man pages, very helpful
[22:27] <ASULutzy> nickolaus: So maybe try smb://that/path ?
[22:27] <solexious> yesudeep2: sadly not, it did in 7.08 but on in this fresh 8.04 install
[22:27] <gorg> mDemocritus: i am not comfortable with console atm, but i would like to start learning it
[22:27] <nickolaus> asulutzy thanks
[22:27] <solexious> yesudeep2: 7.10 sorry*
[22:27] <ASULutzy> nickolaus: I'm not 100% sure on the syntax, as mine is a local hard drive, /media/TB/music
[22:28] <ASULutzy> nickolaus: Just tinker with it, I'm sure you'll get it
[22:28] <Rampage> yesudeep2: what version of firefox have you got now?
[22:28] <yesudeep2> solexious: libipod0 should be it.
[22:28] <mDemocritus> gorg: rtorrent is powerful, but it's fairly confusing for a newbie...i know it was for me...
[22:28] <yesudeep2> Rampage: 3.0 rc1
[22:28] <CaptainAmerica> yesudeep2: i got a message in terminal reading "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[22:28] <CaptainAmerica> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[22:28] <mDemocritus> gorg: are you looking for a specific feature?
[22:28] <Rampage> yesudeep2: ah yes, aptitude says rc1
[22:28] <Rampage> the about help was just saying 3
[22:28] <solexious> yesudeep2: will try, ty
[22:28] <tayfun> hey  people i got a question how can i install beryl ?? i aint got no paket from beryl or somethin else tell me what should i type to install it ?
[22:28] <ASULutzy> CaptainAmerica: You probably had Synaptic open at the same time you were trying to use apt-get?
[22:28] <yesudeep2> CaptainAmerica: Are you using synaptic or another package management tool to install/upgrade something?
[22:29] <nickolaus> asulutzy so smb://yahwah/media 1/ music ?
[22:29] <gorg> i heard ASULutzy were talking about starting downloads from work
[22:29] <yesudeep2> solexious: Check whether your iPod shows up in the Places menu.
[22:29] <tayfun> i dont know
[22:29] <ASULutzy> You can't have spaces, maybe try smb://yahwah/media\ 1/music
[22:29] <nickolaus> asulutzy and once I do that how do I use it? Just open the media with samba?
[22:29] <yesudeep2> solexious: If that's the case, as on one of my computers, right clicking it seems to mount it and show it on the desktop.
[22:29] <CaptainAmerica> ASULutzy: im not using synaptic
[22:29] <tayfun> hey people help me
[22:30] <mDemocritus> gorg: your best bet is a client that has a web inteface... there are some for rtorrent, and ktorrent has one built in
[22:30] <tayfun> pls tell me how can i install beryl
[22:30] <xzedn> all sdl programs/games won't run and tell me on the shell "no available audio device"
[22:30] <xzedn> sound doesn't work in flash either
[22:30] <addison> is there a version of java for Power PC ubuntu???
[22:30] <yesudeep2> tayfun: Beryl has been replace by compiz fusion.
[22:30] <xzedn> but i get startup sounds
[22:30] <ASULutzy> nickolaus: You just browse to it with a browser on the port that it says at the top of /etc/gnump3d/gnump3d.conf, I believe it defaults to :8888
[22:30] <gorg> but it seems i should start with Transmission and when i have practiced console i may convert
[22:30] <xzedn> and music through banshee
[22:30] <yesudeep2> tayfun: You should have compiz installed already.
[22:30] <solexious> yesudeep2: installed, not showing up but will try a restart, no it is not showing up in places
[22:30] <ASULutzy> nickolaus: So you'd go to http://whatever.your.ip.is:8888 in a webbrowser
[22:30] <Rampage> firefox is still buggy
[22:30] <mDemocritus> gorg: that's probably the best idea
[22:30] <yesudeep2> tayfun: You may find this package useful too:  compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:30] <Rampage> taking up 100% CPU
[22:30] <tayfun> yesudeep but i dont have beryl how can i see if i have or how can i install it again
[22:30] <CaptainAmerica> yesudeep2: im not using synaptic
[22:30] <gorg> ok thanks,
[22:31] <Rampage> gorg: you can go to console straight away
[22:31] <gorg> should i just google for it?
[22:31] <gorg> hmm.. u think?
[22:31] <Rampage> gorg: if you don't try now, you willkeep delaying it
[22:31] <gorg> that might be very right
[22:31] <tayfun> yesudeep but i dont have beryl how can i see if i have or how can i install it again
[22:31] <Renate> with the lastround of updates, ubuntu decided to stop recognizing my wireless keyboard.  i have the driver install disk, but it won't even install under wine (it's a ms wireless desktop elite).  it worked fine up until now.
[22:31] <Rampage> gorg: http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/RTorrentUserGuide
[22:31] <addison> is there java for power pc linux
[22:32] <gorg> ok, i give it a go and if i get angry i swap :p
[22:32] <Y-Town> Next question:  I have a small home server running Ubuntu 8.04 desktop.  This system will be used for file sharing/storage and a backup for my other systems.  Would I be better of setting up a share directory under the user or making a partition designated to sharing/storage?  Keep in mind this system may be used by me from time to time but not intended to be used as a dialy web surfer system
[22:32] <tayfun> what should i write to install beryl?
[22:32] <yesudeep2> tayfun: You don't need to install beryl.  It's deprecated.  do you see "Visual effects" in the appearances dialog box?
[22:32] <Rampage> gorg: rtorrent is extremely easy to use, and with time you will realise how important console is, or how useful
[22:32] <yesudeep2> addison: There should be.
[22:32] <Pixeltime> addison: yes, there is
[22:32] <xzedn> can anyone help with my sound problem?
[22:32] <addison> where???
[22:32] <yesudeep2> CaptainAmerica: Ok.  Is there any other update running in the background?
[22:32] <steven2> ?
[22:32] <mangojambo> Hi... do someone here have a minidv-coder and use kino to pick the video ?
[22:32] <Pixeltime> I installed it for my PS3/Linux install
[22:32] <yesudeep2> addison: aptitude search java
[22:32] <Rampage> anyone else having trouble with firefox rc1 using 100% CPU
[22:33] <addison> okay thnx
[22:33] <Mets> Hi, how do I install the firefox/seamonkey plugin for java applets (sun-java not openjdk)
[22:33] <ouellettesr> hello for some reason my flippy drive isnt showing up, and ideas
[22:33] <gorg> Rampage: i will follow u're advice, downloading rtorrent
[22:33] <DarkAudit> Mets: either way it spells loser (Let's go Bucs!) :)
[22:33] <Pixeltime> its on IBMs site
[22:33] <ouellettesr> *any ideas?
[22:33] <Rampage> gorg: well done :-)
[22:33] <EADG> gorg: rtorrent + screen on an ssh connection to the remote box = happiness :)
[22:33] <Rampage> gorg: let me know if you need any help
[22:33] <Mets> DarkAudit: hehe, you wish :)
[22:33] <ASULutzy> gorg: rTorrent is all command line, so if you're expecting something flashy, rtorrent isn't it. But it's powerful, and the command line thing is great, like I said, allows you to use it through ssh remotely
[22:34] <Rampage> Ah yes gorg , do what EADG says. Use rtorrent in a screen :)
[22:34] <yesudeep2> CaptainAmerica: Can you please paste the output of 'ps -aux' at http://rafb.net/paste?
[22:34] <Pixeltime> if you want a torrent client that just works, its Transmission ;)
[22:34] <Rampage> Pixeltime: i can say the same about rtorrent :P
[22:34] <goldbond> hey, i just restarted by ubuntu install and now 800x600 is the highest resolution i can set. what could my problem be?
[22:34] <w0ss4g3> Hi, can someone help me? I've just installed x86_64 hardy heron on my lappy, and when i access the terminal from the apps menu, i dont get a bash shell... only the default gnome terminal.. obviously it works if i type bash, but can someone tell me how to fix it so it goes straight to bash?
[22:34] <yesudeep2> Transmission should expand to become a full-featured download manager.
[22:35] <EADG> gorg: I just set up 3 xfers and changed my dowload speed limit on my server 1200Km away.
[22:35] <Rampage> yesudeep2: you having trouble with firefox-3rc1? using 100% CPU while browsing?
[22:35] <yesudeep2> Rampage: Nothing of that sort.
[22:35] <Rampage> hmm
[22:35] <yesudeep2> Rampage: Which addons are you using?
[22:35] <xzedn> what about my lack of sound?
[22:35] <gorg> hehe
[22:36] <yesudeep2> xzedn: Ok, which sound card do you have?
[22:36] <gorg> i ll try, and i will pop in here when i get stuck
[22:36] <Y-Town> Rampage: I have a problem with my top menu bar with the X being gone and firefox flickers when I right click
[22:36] <yesudeep2> xzedn: And does Linux detect it?
[22:36] <Renate> can someone help me with installing/reinstalling a 3rd party driver on my system?
[22:36] <Rampage> yesudeep2: downloadthemall, english dictionary, useragent switcher
[22:36] <gorg> a nice little community
[22:36] <yesudeep2> Rampage: Try disabling all addons and enable them one at a time.
[22:36] <doctor_thunder> gas prices will make ubuntu soar
[22:36] <acgiglyph> w0ss4g3: From the GUI or the command line?
[22:36] <doctor_thunder> akakakakakaka
[22:36] <xzedn> im not sure what sound card i have
[22:36] <Rampage> yesudeep2: ok
[22:36] <yesudeep2> Rampage: Let the ubuntu firefox extensions on
[22:36] <sapph424> I did some Googling and found that this error is not unknown, but I haven't found a fix: Every time I try to install Ubuntu, it hangs at 94%.  Status shows: "Installing GRUB boot loader" and bottom text reads 'Running "update-grub"...'  Its been at 94% for over 8 hours.
[22:36] <xzedn> i can hear some sound
[22:37] <xzedn> like music from banshee
[22:37] <imafreak> omg... I was wondering why my home folder was full of a sudden... my ~/xsession-errors was 25G big!! anyone can explain that?
[22:37] <chuy_max> !wmv
[22:37] <yesudeep2> xzedn: Oh, you can hear sound, so what exactly is the problem?
[22:37] <johnnypea> !alltray
[22:37] <acgiglyph> w0ss4g3: From the go to preferences and then select your profile and select the advanced tab, then select your desired shell.
[22:37] <moDumass> please help me here guys, my keyboard is reassigning keys and some of them are for passwords and logins, and its eating me
[22:37] <Shandel[[WHOA]]>  irc.icq.com
[22:37] <Saar> how can i tell a package to be ignored by apt-get?
[22:37] <CaptainAmerica> yesudeep2: http://rafb.net/p/a6ar9Z47.html
[22:37] <Mets> Saar: don't tell it to install it
[22:38] <Rampage> yesudeep2: get spikes in CPU usage even with just the ubuntu addons on
[22:38] <xzedn> i can't hear sound in any sdl apps or flash
[22:38] <msnbot> hello, my ubuntu has no fork() function installed. no ip_fw.h header file. how to get all those development stuff
[22:38] <xzedn> i used to be able to
[22:38] <xzedn> but not anymore
[22:38] <moDumass> why would z and c when pressed bring up zc and also 1 & 3 bring up 13?
[22:38] <Saar> MetaBot: won't work, I do apt-get upgrade and get this:
[22:38] <xzedn> its only been installed for about a week
[22:38] <Saar> http://pastebin.com/d16a7ac9e
[22:38] <w0ss4g3> acgiglyph: via sys -> admin -> users and groups ? - its all blanked out :/
[22:38] <moDumass> ok, that sounded wrong, when either 13 or 13 are pressed
[22:38] <moDumass> arghh
[22:38] <tschaka> question, when ubuntu runs in low graphic mode, does and if, which config (xorg.conf) X use?
[22:39] <moDumass> 1 or 3
[22:39] <acgiglyph> w0ss4g3: Which version are you useing?
[22:39] <w0ss4g3> ubuntu 8.04 with the .18 kernel
[22:39] <jahrel> hi, i'm getting 404 erros while trying to apt-get update my system (edgy). the entire repository seems to be missing. any clues why? thanks :)
[22:39] <johnnypea> hello, how can I list all the commands for "alltray" app
[22:40] <ASULutzy> jahrel: Edgy is old news, no longer supported :D
[22:40] <gorg> rTorrent 0.8.0 is the latest rTorrent klient right?
[22:40] <bazhang> !info rtorrent
[22:40] <Renate> how do i get ubuntu to recognize my wireless keyboard/mouse again?  in the last round of updates, it decided to not recogize it
[22:40] <Rampage> gorg: corrcet
[22:40] <msnbot> what package it needs for system programming in Ubuntu?
[22:40] <acgiglyph> w0ss4g3: Choose "unlock" next to the close button and authenticate, then choose your login name and click properties, then choose advanced.  Then type /bin/bash in the shell input.
[22:40] <PROZAC> ALGUM BRASILEIRO???
[22:40] <Slart> johnnypea: no man page?
[22:40] <PROZAC> ALGUM BRASILEIRO???
[22:40] <PROZAC> ALGUM BRASILEIRO???
[22:40] <FloodBot1> PROZAC: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:40] <PROZAC> ALGUM BRASILEIRO???
[22:40] <PROZAC> ALGUM BRASILEIRO???
[22:40] <PROZAC> ALGUM BRASILEIRO???
[22:40] <PROZAC> ALGUM BRASILEIRO???
[22:40] <TecnoBrat> time to open a can of "OMG preference!" I'm having issues with UltraVNC (on my windows box) to my ubuntu box (screen not refreshing / UltraVNC crashing).  Can anyone suggest a good VNC client for windows that works nicely with the pre-installed VNC server?
[22:40] <mushir> my arabic folder names looks like tha ??????? plz help
[22:40] <goldbond> hey, i just restarted by ubuntu install and now 800x600 is the highest resolution i can set. what could my problem be?
[22:40] <yesudeep2> CaptainAmerica: sudo kill -9 6059
[22:40] <Slart> !res | goldbond
[22:40] <bazhang> !br | PROZAC
[22:41] <w0ss4g3> acgiglyph: just trying that now.. do I need to logout and back in?
[22:41] <yesudeep2> CaptainAmerica: Type that.
[22:41] <jahrel> ASULutzy: any way to upgrade via command line? this is a dedicated server
[22:41] <Bodsda|COFFEE> How can i make a title in vim? im thinking of a bigger font size and bold?
[22:41] <yesudeep2> CaptainAmerica: Then type whatever was told to you earlier.
[22:41] <w0ss4g3> acgiglyph: still the same
[22:41] <Rampage> gorg: aptitude has the latest client so no compiling what so ever :)
[22:41] <Aslanix> hi every body!
[22:41] <johnnypea> Slart: where?
[22:41] <BCM43> Hi Aslanix
[22:41] <xzedn> Bodsda|COFFEE: Doesn't vim just edit plain text?
[22:42] <Slart> johnnypea: most linux programs come with a manual.. or a man page
[22:42] <moDumass> zcxzcvbnm,.asdfghjkl;'qwertyuiop132134567890
[22:42] <ASULutzy> jahrel: Edgy support officially ended on 4.25.08, I think you're stuck compiling from source/finding packages on your own
[22:42] <xzedn> i think my problem has something to do with the sound system used by different programs
[22:42] <Slart> johnnypea: open a terminal and type "man alltray"
[22:42] <Bodsda|COFFEE> xzedn, it does so much more
[22:42] <jahrel> ASULutzy: thanks :)
[22:42] <xzedn> wow, i never knew that
[22:42] <xzedn> maybe emacs
[22:42] <acgiglyph> w0ss4g3:You should not need to but to avoid the reboot you can just source your profile.
[22:42] <CaptainAmerica> yesudeep2: its working now TY
[22:42] <johnnypea> Slart: aha thx :)
[22:42] <xzedn> but i would have never guessed vim
[22:42] <Renate> can anyone here elp me with a driver issue????
[22:42] <Renate> *help
[22:43] <w0ss4g3> acgiglyph: in fact when I change it, as soon as I go back it's defaulted back to /bin/sh. how do I source my profile?
[22:43] <moDumass> !#keyboard
[22:43] <BCM43> !ask | Renate
[22:43] <Bodsda|COFFEE> xzedn, your answer to how to do something in vim is to use its rival emacs?
[22:43] <xzedn> im not saying that
[22:43] <cggabriel> can anybody help me with video card problems on ubuntu 8.04!?
[22:43] <Y-Town> Next question:  I have a small home server running Ubuntu 8.04 desktop.  This system will be used for file sharing/storage and a backup for my other systems.  Would I be better of setting up a share directory under the user or making a partition designated to sharing/storage?  Keep in mind this system may be used by me from time to time but not intended to be used as a dialy web surfer system
[22:43] <ASULutzy> !ask | cggabriel
[22:43] <Slart> johnnypea: that works for almost everything.. "man ls" will give you info on the ls command, "man gedit" will give you info on the gnome text editor etc etc
[22:43] <xzedn> im just saying that i would more expect emacs to do things like that
[22:43] <derspankster> Has anyone have any experience with a stardot wincam live? I had it working in Feisty then it quit and I've never been able to get it to work again. I ran it with Wine. Now, the camera can't communicate with the computer.
[22:43] <gorg> Rampage: ok, now i've downloaded this zip-file(?) and wants to extract it. where is the usual place to extract to? my ubuntu is installed for 1 hour ago
[22:43] <TecnoBrat> easier question .. what windows VNC client do any of you use? :P
[22:43] <Renate> i have asked.  several times.  no response.
[22:43] <gorg> (in windows i used /program files/
[22:43] <bazhang> gorg that is not the way to install stuff on ubuntu
[22:43] <Saar> soo, how can I tell apt to ignore a certain package?
[22:43] <Rampage> gorg: zipfile? where from and what is it?
[22:44] <BCM43> Renate: then we might not be able to help. try asking again
[22:44] <Renate> once again...  i have a wireless keyboard and mouse set. al of a sudden ubuntu refuses to recognize them
[22:44] <Slart> TecnoBrat: there are a few.. I think they are pretty equal.. some support scaling and such
[22:44] <johnnypea> Slart: ok ,great , ty
[22:44] <acgiglyph> w0ss4g3: source ~/.profile
[22:44] <bazhang> gorg sudo apt-get install rtorrent
[22:44] <w0ss4g3> acgiglyph: where "profile" = my username ?
[22:44] <gorg> ops :p.. let me see
[22:44] <Renate> i have the driver disk and a dl'd copy of the driver.exe
[22:44] <Slart> TecnoBrat: ultravnc is the one I've used in the past.
[22:44] <xzedn> does anyone know what sound system banshee uses?
[22:44] <acgiglyph> w0ss4g3: no, just as I showed above
[22:44] <bazhang> !repos | gorg
[22:44] <Rampage> gorg: always good to look in the repository for the easy install :)
[22:44] <BCM43> Renate: driver for what?
[22:44] <gorg> from here:   http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/rTorrent-Download-2673.html
[22:44] <acgiglyph> w0ss4g3: ~/ means go to the current users home folder
[22:45] <TecnoBrat> Slart, yea, I'm having issues with it not refreshing / crashing (works fine when connecting to my other windows box with a VNC server on it)
[22:45] <Rampage> gorg: delete that and do what bazhang said
[22:45] <gorg> ok - sorry, ill use some time there before bothering u about easy questions :)
[22:45] <Rampage> gorg: sudo aptitude install rtorrent  incase
[22:45] <Renate> bdm43:  ms wireless desktop elite (kybd and mouse).  it worked just fine, until the last round of updates.
[22:45] <gorg> alright
[22:45] <ASULutzy> gorg: In ubuntu you don't install things the same way you do in Windows (usually), delete what you've downloaded and instead take advantage of the secure repositories. To do that, you can either click system->administration->synaptic and search for rTorrent, or you can click applications->accessories->terminal and type sudo apt-get install rtorrent
[22:46] <Aslanix> seems ubuntu 8.04 can't be installed on my system wich has sata HD, the olnly choice for me is to use the wubi wich i don't like cause its unsafe
[22:46] <bazhang> gorg you can use sudo aptitude install packagename or sudo apt-get install packagename
[22:46] <cggabriel> i have problems configuring xorg and video drivers on ubuntu 8.04
[22:46] <ASULutzy> Aslanix: I installed Hardy just fine to a sata hdd.
[22:46] <Slart> TecnoBrat: give one of the others a try then.. see if they work better.. realvnc or tightvnc
[22:46] <w0ss4g3> acgiglyph: source: command not found :\
[22:46] <bazhang> Aslanix, sata do fine
[22:46] <ASULutzy> Aslanix: And yea, wubi isn't an ideal solution
[22:47] <TecnoBrat> Slart, cool, thanks for the suggestion
[22:47] <Slart> Aslanix: you can install on sata drives..
[22:47] <ttt> guys, I have a nVidia card, I used the installer from nvidia.com, now every time i reboot ubuntu I get the X failsafe and in the logs something like: Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 71.86.04,
[22:47] <ttt> but this NVIDIA driver component has version 173.14.05. Can anyone plx help me get rid of this? :)
[22:47] <cggabriel> vcard nVidia GeForce 5200
[22:47] <Slart> TecnoBrat: here's a nice list of clients ... http://gentoo-wiki.com/VNC
[22:47] <ASULutzy> ttt: I would edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf to use "vesa" driver, and then install EnvyNG to install your graphics drivers for you
[22:48] <Slart> ttt: if you're using the driver from the nvidia site you have to uninstall the kernel module from synaptic
[22:48] <TecnoBrat> Slart, oh awesome :)
[22:48] <w0ss4g3> acgiglyph: in fact, it says /home/username/.profile: no such file or directory
[22:48] <acgiglyph> w0ss4g3: Can you try that command from a bash shell?
[22:48] <w0ss4g3> just did ^^
[22:49] <icqnumber> ttt, well do not thinks, if you do not know hwat are you doing
[22:49] <cggabriel> i use the EnvyNG to install the drivers and it went bad
[22:49] <w0ss4g3> acgiglyph: also, I've just checked and my fstab appears to be blank :/
[22:49] <w0ss4g3> acgiglyph: just says # UNCONFIGURED FSTAB FOR BASE SYSTEM
[22:49] <icqnumber> ttt, you have to remove all nvidia drivers for now
[22:49] <philosophe> hi all :)
[22:50] <jagez> Hi, shouldn't the /boot/config-2.6.24-18 file perfectly represent the kernel binary it is shipped with? Because I just used it to compile a new package with one extra driver and it turned out not to have alsa ... Confused!
[22:50] <xzedn> why would sound not work in sdl and flash if it works in other places?
[22:50] <xzedn> hi
[22:50] <Renate> BCM43:  ubuntu is refusing to recognize my "ms wireless desktop elite" kybd and mouse, since the last updates.  when i reboot, it flashes when loading the dell bios, but then goes off once ubuntu takes over.  i have the driver.exe on disk and downloaded, but it will not let me install it, even under wine.
[22:50] <philosophe> Looking for driver of my Wirless Adapter on my Hp dv6000 !
[22:50] <BCM43> !sound | xzedn
[22:50] <acgiglyph> hmm, sounds like you may be having other issues.  If you reboot, will the machine come back online.  I ask because it's "starting" to sound like a drive issue.
[22:50] <philosophe> Can anyone helps me ?
[22:50] <BCM43> Renate: any errors?
[22:50] <ttt> Slart: thx, I'll try it
[22:51] <kjd-ro> tschaka: well .. evdev ?? what's that ? i did not try .. let's see now
[22:51] <ttt> icqnumber: how do I remove them? :-z
[22:51] <cggabriel> how do i uninstall all the vcard drivers and all the xorg.conf.backup from the system?
[22:51] <tj83> anyone have any indication as to why If i set in networkmanager my ip address to manual <IP_ADDRESS> i cannot ping that address from my laptop (<IP_ADDRESS>) given a DHCP address? I will note that it was using IPv6 but If confirms the IPv4 address of xxx.xxx.xxx.106?
[22:51] <ASULutzy> philosophe: I have a dv6000, got it working using ndiswrapper and the windows driver
[22:51] <Renate> BCM43: gave me an error popup about whether i had permission when i tried to install it.  other than that, no.
[22:52] <BCM43> Renate: try installing as rooot
[22:52] <BCM43> Renate: try installing as root
[22:52] <philosophe> ASULutzy>>  how can i manage this ? apt-get install  ?
[22:52] <snarkster> afternoon... I need to restart samba as i adjusted the the workgroup name.. how do i do that?
[22:52] <Renate> BCM43:  and now i'm clueless.  (a true n00b at linux)
[22:52] <BCM43> !root | Renate
[22:52] <icqnumber> ttt, sudo apt-get remove <package name>
[22:53] <xzedn> i looked at the devices
[22:53] <ASULutzy> philosophe: Mind if I send you a PM? It's sort of involved(not complicated really) but don't want to flood the channel
[22:53] <xzedn> i have two alsa mixers
[22:53] <Renate> BCM43:  thanks.  will try there.
[22:53] <philosophe> Yes PM me :)
[22:53] <blackvd> What's the easiest way to figure out x and why position on your screen? I want to set place windows option for a embedded bash at the bottom left corner of my screen.
[22:53] <ttt> icqnumber, I installed them with the sh script from nvidia.com
[22:53] <xzedn> one was already the one that appeared as soon as i opened it
[22:53] <w0ss4g3> acgiglyph: don't worry.. I think I've made some mistakes on install.. going to start again
[22:53] <xzedn> the other had nothing show up in the window after selecting it
[22:53] <snarkster> !services
[22:54] <BCM43> !prefix | xzedn
[22:54] <moDumass> hey all, zcant type .zcom any more bezcause zc and zc are both appearing at the same time. any ideas would be awesome, this si a new mizcrosoft wireless keyboard and their hardware is usually pretty solid
[22:54] <xzedn> !tab ok
[22:54] <steven2> hi
[22:54] <xzedn> BCM43: ok
[22:54] <BCM43> !tab | xzedn
[22:55] <steven2> only on certain apps btw ;)
[22:55] <TecnoBrat> <3 tab completion
[22:55] <steven2> not on all of them
[22:55] <xzedn> i see
[22:55] <steven2> yeah tab completion is pretty cool
[22:55] <xzedn> BCM43: i see
[22:55] <TecnoBrat> steven2, the good ones!
[22:55] <steven2> i added it the other day ;)
[22:55] <softsantear> i want to add some sata drives to an old system and need a pci sata controller that will work in ubuntu 8.04... is anyone using one to some success?  it seems like there are very few that are definitely supported
[22:55] <steven2> granted, im still in beta :D
[22:55] <Miesco> Is there xmms in ubuntu repository?
[22:55] <TecnoBrat> steven2, what app?
[22:55] <xzedn> sometimes im not talking to anyone in particular, though
[22:55] <steven2> but man, my "scroll to bottom unless you already were scrolling up to read what someone said" is very broken
[22:55] <steven2> its what im testing right now
[22:56] <xzedn> BCM43: well, what should i do now?
[22:56] <steven2> even if you have scrolled up, it very much doesnt care, and jerks you to the bottom
[22:56] <steven2> and sometimes it doesnt scroll all the way to the bottom! :(
[22:56]  * steven2 is done with the offtopic rant
[22:56] <BCM43> xzedn: is it a sound prob?
[22:56] <xzedn> BCM43: afaik
[22:57] <Fosco-> clear
[22:57]  * david_ wipes Fosco's screen clear
[22:57] <unbkbl> hello, i've just update my ubuntu to 8.04 and i've installed kde4 i wanna know how can i run kde 4 and gnome simultaneously. GNOME un pty7 and kde4 on pty8...
[22:57] <Miesco> What packge is xmms in?
[22:57] <BCM43> xzedn: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[22:57] <Slart> Miesco: apt-cache search xmms
[22:57] <tschaka> Miesco it isnt in hardy repos anymore. try audacious instead.
[22:58] <Miesco> tschaka: Why isn't it?
[22:58] <Fosco-> Would I need to install the windows drivers with wine to run games in wine (high performance games)?
[22:58] <softsantear> no one knows anything about pci sata port replicators?
[22:58] <unbkbl> any ideas?
[22:58] <tschaka> Miesco dont ask me. audacious is similar, only gtk2 instead of 1
[22:58] <tschaka> :P
[22:58] <danbhfive> Fosco-: I dont think so
[22:58] <bazhang> unbkbl, you cannot
[22:58] <danbhfive> Fosco-: besides, you cant install drivers in wine, period
[22:58] <xzedn> BCM43: i'll reboot now
[22:59] <bazhang> softsantear, try #hardware
[22:59] <unbkbl> hmmmm
[22:59] <Miesco> But xmms is like the most popular player, it should be at least in the repository for optional install...
[22:59] <bazhang> !xmms | Miesco
[22:59] <tschaka> Miesco yeah, but i cant do anything about this, sorry :P
[22:59] <softsantear> bazhang: it's just called #hardware?
[22:59] <Fosco-> danhbfine, i keep getting driver errors from Guild Wars, do you know why?
[23:00] <bazhang> ##hardware softsantear
[23:00] <CaptainAmerica> how how do i set up windows XP in a virtual machine on linux
[23:00] <unbkbl> why?
[23:00] <addison> how do you find out your root password???
[23:00] <tschaka> Miesco and audacious really feels like xmms :p
[23:00] <zaklinux> Is this the correct channel for Absolute beginners?
[23:00] <Slart> !root | addison
[23:00] <softsantear> thanks!
[23:00] <steven_> how can i enable mult workstations on xubuntu?
[23:00] <Rampage> addison: there is no root user by default
[23:00] <Slart> zaklinux: yes.. ask away
[23:00] <Rampage> root password rather
[23:01] <CaptainAmerica> how do i set up windows XP in a virtual machine on linux
[23:01] <Miesco> tschaka: Is it as featurefull
[23:01] <addison> thank you
[23:01] <danbhfive> Fosco-: did you use the appdb?
[23:01] <cggabriel>  icqnumber that command is not doing it, sudo apt-get remove xorg.conf.backup
[23:01] <david_> softsantear: try http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html
[23:01] <chimp> Ubuntu is forcing a fsck on bootup can anyone tell me how to disable it? (its causing a kernel panic)
[23:01] <bazhang> !vm | CaptainAmerica
[23:01] <steven_> chimp
[23:01] <Slart> CaptainAmerica: at least wait 5 minutes before repeating your question.. use the time to google and search the ubuntu forums
[23:01] <steven_> download a program
[23:01] <zaklinux> I need some help installing Gimpshop. I'm very to Ubuntu but I'm loving it so far. Thus far, I've download the Deb package and I can confirm it was installed successfuly sincee I see it in Synaptec manager, but when I open Gimp, it still looks the same.
[23:01] <steven_> search
[23:01] <Fosco-> danhbfive, for?
[23:01] <steven_> um it's called
[23:02] <danbhfive> !appdb > Fosco-
[23:02] <steven_> damn i forget lol
[23:02] <tschaka> Miesco didnt miss anything yet. give it a try
[23:02] <steven_> anyone know mult desktops xubuntu?
[23:02] <CaptainAmerica> ubottu: how would i do it using !VMWare
[23:02] <Miesco> Whats pulseaudio, is that like the new better sound system for linux?
[23:02] <tschaka> Miesco used xmms for a very long time, and didnt see any similar player yet, except when i first started with audacious :P
[23:02] <CaptainAmerica> ubottu: lol
[23:03] <Slart> CaptainAmerica: just type !WMWare and ubottu will give you some info
[23:03] <icqnumber> cggabriel, doing what?
[23:03] <McJester> I have Ubuntu 6.06 and I have done all the updates, but the upgrade to 8.04 option is not showing, any ideas?
[23:04] <bazhang> McJester, install update-manager-core
[23:04] <puff> Given that my fiddling with the various kernel packagesinstalled has had negative results, what's the easiest way to simply restore my hardy install to the most-up-to-date configuration?
[23:04] <McJester> bazhang, thanks
[23:04] <siekacz> hello everyone
[23:04] <ASULutzy> McJester: To upgrade to hardy you'll have to add the hardy repository to your sources list and do a dist-upgrade... Or maybe bazhang's method is the way to go
[23:04] <Slart> !upgrade | McJester
[23:04] <legend2440> zaklinux: try typing gimpshop in terminal
[23:04] <CaptainAmerica> ubottu: !WMWare
[23:04] <McJester> thanks Slart, I have already reviewed that link
[23:05] <bazhang> !vmware | CaptainAmerica
[23:05] <CaptainAmerica> ubottu: !VMWare
[23:05] <cggabriel> i need to remove all the vcard drivers and all the xorg bacups that r in the folder, me trying to get this vcard to work on my 8.04 distro, vcard is GeForce 5200
[23:05] <puff> Ubuntu is running  in low-graphics mode.  \nYour screen and graphics card could not be detected correctly.  To use higher resoulutions, visual effects of multpile screens, you have to configure the display yourself.
[23:05] <Miesco> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/07/msg00026.html -- Doesn't work
[23:05] <siekacz> i have a problem with ov51x-jpeg
[23:06] <mst_> Hey, quick question: Does anyone know the variable name / how to tell Emacs what I want to to use as its working / current directory?
[23:06] <zaklinux> legend2440: bash: gimpshop: command not found (I believe gimpshop is just supposed to make Gimp look more like Photoshop so I don't think its a standalone application.
[23:06] <puff> mst_: From within emacs?  Ask on #emacs
[23:06] <mst_> thanks pub
[23:06] <siekacz> closed-source applications doesn't work right with camera
[23:07] <puff> mst_:  Though emacs tends to go with whatever directory your current buffer is loaded from.
[23:07] <puff> Anyone?  Kernel updates?
[23:07] <w0ss4g3> When installing manually, and using debootstrap - what is the correct name to put after it for hardy heron? Or does it not matter?
[23:07] <Rampage> kernel updates, hmm no
[23:07] <legend2440> zaklinux: i haven't tried gimpshop myself but here are instruction.   http://delirial.com/archives/howto-gimpshop-on-ubuntu/
[23:07] <puff> Back in a bit, gonna restart my irc client.
[23:08] <tschaka> Miesco works here.
[23:08] <zaklinux> Legend: Okay thanks. I'll try that!
[23:08] <Miesco> tschaka: really?
[23:09] <Miesco> tschaka: Can audatious use xmms skins?
[23:09] <tschaka> Miesco yeah, classic winamp 2.x skins, means xmms ones too
[23:10] <Miesco> tschaka: K, and any idea why they didn't fix the gui skin loader bug in xmms?
[23:11] <tschaka> Miesco no
[23:11] <puff> Looks like a whole slew of updates got released just recently.
[23:12] <puff> Argh, the dreaded ipw2200 parity error. Wtf does that *mean*?
[23:12] <icqnumber> cggabriel, backup files do not effect you system, they are for you only to restore you box...there is no reason to remove them
[23:12] <siekacz> does anyone uses webcam with ov51x chipset?
[23:13] <cggabriel> icqnumber i need to remove all the vcard drivers and all the xorg bacups that r in the folder, me trying to get this vcard to work on my 8.04 distro, vcard is GeForce 5200
[23:13]  * ElefanteMArfim ouvindo FV Coerente - A Familia ! [quality:128kbits 44KHz time:04:52] -=[Cyber]=-
[23:14] <nagappan> any reason why I get "pam_authenticate conversation error" ? on doing sudo
[23:14] <nagappan> I have a VM image with Ubuntu 7.04
[23:15] <cggabriel> icqnumber i need to remove all the vcard drivers and all the xorg bakup's that r in the folder, me trying to get this vcard to work on my ubuntu 8.04 distro, vcard is GeForce 5200
[23:15] <icqnumber> cggabriel, can you explain me why do you want to  remove xorg backup file? they are like .txt files in windwos, just for you to see what your original setup was!!
[23:15] <rkroetch> I am having an issue with cross-compiling in scratchbox, anyone have any experience with it?
[23:15] <cggabriel> i can get to it
[23:16] <icqnumber> cggabriel, sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx
[23:16] <cggabriel> is just to many txt files men
[23:17] <chimp> Ubuntu is forcing a fsck on bootup can anyone tell me how to disable it? (its causing a kernel panic) (sorry for repeat)
[23:17] <Rampage> chimp, let it run
[23:17] <Rampage> oh no idea how to stop it
[23:18] <avis> has anyone heard of the problem in hardy where atapi dvd burners will not recognize blank media or burn them ?
[23:18] <rkroetch> chimp: I don't know many off hand, but check for options you can pass grub
[23:18] <cggabriel> plus i need to configure the vcard and xorg... pls help me icqnumber
[23:18] <ttt> icqnumber, I've tried removing the drivers with envyng and reinstalling, it reboots to something very weird, failsafe mode with decentralized image or something
[23:18] <puff> Hm, I did an aptitude full-upgrade from the console.  It keeps asking me: "There appears to be an X server running on display :0.  Should another display number by tried?  Answering no will cause GDM to attempt starting the server on :0 again.
[23:19] <puff> It's asked four times and each time I select "no" and it comes up again.
[23:19] <moDumass> 1321313eqqeadzczczcZC
[23:19] <moDumass> sorry
[23:19] <puff> Should I stop the previously-running X session, and if so, how?
[23:19] <benpicco_> chimp, it shoud not cause a kernel panic
[23:20] <benpicco_> chimp, why does it panic?
[23:20] <legend2440> avis: if you google          hardy atapi dvd bug       a bunch of bug reports pop up
[23:20] <DJ_Cranky> would sharing over a network be problematic with 2 ubunty hardy comps both on wifi with ndiswrapper?
[23:20] <daves111> can anyone help? running ubuntu and updates won't load
[23:20] <tj83> does ubuntu have ssh server installed by default? and if so.. how to initiate it? I was using openssh-server under xubuntu but its not installed nor in repository.
[23:20] <Stroganoff> tj83: sudo apt-get install ssh
[23:20] <benpicco_> daves111, what hapens if you enter sudo apt-get upgrade in terminal?
[23:20] <rkroetch> chimp: Actually, what I would do is boot from the ubuntu CD / DVD if that is an option. Then mount the drive and figure out why it is failing, or mount your root partition and have it no be automounted
[23:20] <azathoth99> how do I restart networking on ubuntu?
[23:20] <tschaka> tj83 openssh-server is in repos.
[23:20] <Stroganoff> tj83 to activate it, use this: sudo invoke-rc.d ssh start
[23:20] <puff> Argh.  I switched to the terminal that X was running on, it was the "low-graphiocs mode" dialog, I selected "shutdown", thinking that would shut X donw.  No, it shutdown the entire system.
[23:21] <daves111> haven't tried that ... not too good with terminal
[23:21] <chimp> oops sorry was called away
[23:21] <tj83> tschaka, I didnt see it. I'll look again
[23:21] <chimp> Ill show you the forum post i made yesterday
[23:21] <tschaka> tj83 sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[23:21] <Stroganoff> tj83 stop looking, use the terminal.
[23:21] <avis> can anyone tell me if they have a SATA dvd burner, running hardy, and have no problems seeing blank media or burning dvds or cds ?
[23:21] <legend2440> daves111: does update manager try to start then just stop?
[23:21] <tschaka> tj83 works like a charm here :)
[23:21] <puff> azathoth99: Depends on what you mean by "networking" and how it was stopped.  Start wtih /etc/init.d/networking<enter>
[23:21] <tj83> Stroganoff,  I tired apt-get install
[23:21] <daves111> yes, it just stays with "hourglass" running
[23:21] <azathoth99> say i add a static ip to /etc/network/interfaces
[23:22] <azathoth99> I then run /etc/init.d/networking restart?
[23:22] <Rampage> tj83: sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[23:22] <legend2440> daves111: can you paste your   /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname files in pastebin?
[23:22] <legend2440> !paste
[23:23] <Miesco> tschaka: What big audio player do you use, like amoraK
[23:23] <puff> azathoth99: Usually yeah.
[23:23] <CaptainAmerica> how do i install VirtualBox?
[23:23] <chimp> benpicco_ , rkroetch: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=822597
[23:23] <Rampage> tj83: it is most definitely there in the repo
[23:23] <puff> azathoth99: Or force-reload
[23:23] <tschaka> Miesco i use audacious.
[23:23] <daves111> yes, I'll try to
[23:23] <tschaka> Miesco i use audacious.
[23:23] <tj83> it is installed on my notebook... so i will agree with you now... on the server it didnt find it.. I will check repository
[23:23] <nkostop> does anybody knows about sierra wireless cards for 3G networks?
[23:23] <Miesco> tschaka: Does it support albums?
[23:23] <Rampage> tj83: sudo aptitude install openssh-server
[23:23] <chimp> Suffice to say, it really shouldn't cause a kernel panic but it does, and i don't know how to stop it
[23:23] <Miesco> Does rhythymbox support closing to tray?
[23:23] <tj83> Rampage,  i am not at the machine at the moment
[23:24] <Rampage> Miesco: yes
[23:24] <Rampage> tj83: ok
[23:24] <azathoth99> oh that is very similar to archlinux then
[23:24] <azathoth99> on redhat you go service network restart
[23:24] <gorg> rampage rock!
[23:24] <nkostop> does anybody knows about sierra wireless cards for 3G networks?
[23:24] <tschaka> Miesco others would be banshee, rhythmbox or exaile. try them. audacious doesnt come with media library or something. it's basically the same functionality as xmms
[23:24] <azathoth99> where is the ubuntu page on howto do that stuff?
[23:24] <Stroganoff> on suse you open YaST
[23:24] <azathoth99> all I see is this:
[23:24] <azathoth99> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html
[23:24] <Miesco> Rampage: I cant find out how, like to hit the x button and it just goes to tray so its not in my taskbar
[23:24] <Rampage> Miesco: click on the tray icon
[23:25] <tschaka> Miesco click on the try icon.
[23:25] <daves111> how do I get to pastebin,
[23:25] <Maimster> Hi all.
[23:25] <Rampage> !paste
[23:25] <Miesco> oh
[23:25] <legend2440> !paste
[23:25] <Miesco> Okay
[23:25] <Stroganoff> daves111 use your web browser.
[23:25] <nkostop> does anybody knows about sierra wireless cards for 3G networks?
[23:25] <puff> Ughh, I just realized that I still had hardy-proposed in my /etc/apt/sources.list when I did a full upgrade.  Still, I guess it couldn't break things worse than they already are.  Is it feasible to revert from doing a full-upgrade to hardy-proposed?
[23:26] <legend2440> daves111: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:26] <addison> i need help with updating
[23:26] <Rampage> whats up addison
[23:26] <puff> azathoth99: I'm not sure what you're asking?
[23:26] <nkostop> does anybody knows about sierra wireless cards for 3G networks?
[23:26] <benpicco_> chidge, that indeed looks wired
[23:26] <icqnumber> cggabriel, well the simplest way of doing it, if you have not allready distroyed you system is, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, select there to activate the "kernel framebuffer device interface" in X server and follow the steps...
[23:26] <addison> after I update and do the system restart i can't login anymore
[23:27] <a-l-p-h-a> is there a way to tell me what distro a linux box is running? "uname --all" does not do it.
[23:27] <Rampage> addison: any error in particular?
[23:27] <Stroganoff> nkostop most likely someone will know something so the answer would be "yes". next question?
[23:27] <puff> Anybody know how to get X to reconfigure?
[23:27] <benpicco_> chimp,  that indeed looks wired
[23:27] <Rampage> a-l-p-h-a: lsb_release -a
[23:27] <benpicco_> chimp, have you tried running memtest?
[23:27] <daves111> http://paste.ubuntu.com/18911/
[23:27] <addison> not that i know of by the way i'm on ppc
[23:27] <chimp> benpicco_: Yeah i know, even if the hard drive is buggered, it shouldnt cause a kernel panic
[23:27] <chimp> memtest runs fine
[23:27] <Rampage> addison: just doesn't accept the password?
[23:28] <daves111> and http://paste.ubuntu.com/18913/
[23:28]  * puff tries sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-org.
[23:28] <chimp> Only fsck on that partition causes the problem, otherwise its stable
[23:28] <addison> it accepts the password but the screen just goes blue after that
[23:28] <benpicco_> chimp, maybe a kernel bug?
[23:28] <a-l-p-h-a> Rampage, I figured it out. uname -a, does report it.. it's just openvz.
[23:28] <chimp> benpicco_: I thought thats a possiblity, thats why i also tried the earlier kernel with no luck, but i dont know how to proceed
[23:29] <Rampage> addison: hmm, not sure, you tried running recovery and fixing X
[23:29] <addison> ???
[23:29] <Rampage> a-l-p-h-a: for the distro details lsb_release -a works nicely
[23:29] <benpicco_> chidge, you could try a 2.4 kernel
[23:29] <Rampage> when you boot, select recovery mode addison
[23:30] <chimp> By burning an earlier live cd?
[23:30] <addison> okay but what is x?
[23:30] <benpicco_> chimp, DamnSmallLinux provides one
[23:30] <Rampage> a-l-p-h-a: uname-a doesn;t say if its ubunut, debian, fedora, suse etc
[23:30] <tschaka> Rampage when he's getting a blue screen after logging in, isnt it rather a gnome/kde issue?
[23:30] <David__> hello everyone
[23:30] <Rampage> tschaka: Oh
[23:30] <legend2440> daves111: the problem is your /etc/hosts file does not match your /etc/hostname file .. so in /etc/hosts file change   <IP_ADDRESS> daves111-desktop.<IP_ADDRESS>     to       <IP_ADDRESS>      daves111-desktop  and that should fix it
[23:30] <chimp> I have a usb that i can use to boot off, so i might try it
[23:31] <daves111> legend2440: ok, I could try that ... won't hurt anything, right?
[23:31] <David__> i am back and i got a problem....I installed ubuntu with the alternate cd and i am getting this messege.http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/IncomingF5/DSC00349.jpg
[23:32] <addison> Rampage: what is x?
[23:32] <Rampage> addison: your desktop environment, X window system
[23:32] <David__> the cut off part said something about not read only or is read only i didnt now i missed that when i took a picture.
[23:32] <daves111> legend2440: how would it have gotten wrong?
[23:32] <addison> Rampge: how would i fix it???
[23:32] <legend2440> daves111: write down what is says before you change it so you can change it back if you have to.but it should fix the problem
[23:33] <reportingsjr> does anyone know of a beat mapper/maker like fruity loops or logic pro?
[23:33] <daves111> legend2440: thanks, I'll try it
[23:33] <chimp> benpicco_: Should i just use the latest version of damn small linux
[23:33] <legend2440> daves111: not sure but its happening a lot lately with all the updates
[23:34] <benpicco_> chimp, yes, they use the 2.4 kernel tree to provide optimal performance for older machines
[23:34] <icqnumber> puff, better do a new install, if you have nothing to lose, upgrade will follow you for sure into troubles
[23:35] <ttt> guys, can anyone help me remove the nvidia module? I've removed the .ko files from /lib/modules/..., I've done modprobe -r nvidia, i've removed the nvidia file from /etc/modprobe.d, but the module still shows on modprobe -l and modprobe nvidia, can anyone tell me how to get rid of it plz? :>
[23:35] <mrlinky> #linuxhelp
[23:35] <benpicco_> ttt even after reboot?
[23:35] <ttt> yep :(
[23:36] <matt444> I don't have a .Trash folder any more.
[23:36] <legend2440> !trash
[23:36] <ttt> benpicco_, now it just says FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules... since I moved the file
[23:36] <benpicco_> ttt why didi't you use the uninstall method provided by the driver?
[23:36] <newbyx86> I've got a question about my network interface statistics resetting whenever the RX / TX transmit # passes ~4GB. Anybody care to confirm this as a bug or as a "feature" for me?
[23:36] <azathoth99> puff: one I edit netowrk file how do i restart network on ubuntu box?
[23:37] <ttt> I installed the driver using the sh script from nvidia.com, it had some trouble with a existing module, and I didn't find a uninstall option there
[23:37] <azathoth99> like once edit /etc/network/interfaces
[23:37] <Starnestommy> azathoth99: try sudo invoke rc.d networking restart
[23:37] <azathoth99> how restart so it takes effect
[23:37] <newbyx86> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart <-- try that?
[23:37] <addison> How do I fix Windows X
[23:37] <azathoth99> 'invoke rc.d networking restart'
[23:37] <ttt> benpicco_, I installed the driver using the sh script from nvidia.com, it had some trouble with a existing module, and I didn't find a uninstall option there
[23:37] <azathoth99> ok
[23:37] <Starnestommy> azathoth99: er, sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart
[23:37] <azathoth99> ok
[23:37] <FloodBot1> azathoth99: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:38] <benpicco_> ttt tried module-assistant to disable it?
[23:38] <matt444> legend2440:  does the Trash applet know that the location has changed?  Because mine is showing up as full.
[23:38] <l3x> what is the name of console web browser? links or lynks or lynx, or what?
[23:38] <azathoth99> newbyx86: that works? ok on archlinux is /etc/init.d/network
[23:38] <azathoth99> ok
[23:38] <azathoth99> Ive never used sudo
[23:38] <azathoth99> t kinda confuses me
[23:38] <azathoth99> it
[23:38] <FloodBot1> azathoth99: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:38] <ttt> benpicco_, nope, installing it now :)
[23:38] <newbyx86> azathoth99: It should work in theory. I tried it a minute ago but I had routing issues...
[23:38] <newbyx86> (Yours should just be fine.)
[23:38] <legend2440> matt444: can't empty it?
[23:39] <matt444> legend2440:  correct, can not.  i used the terminal and cleared out the folder.  no change.
[23:39] <newbyx86> Can you just point the trash applet? Right click and hit properties or whatever?
[23:39] <icqnumber> ttt, sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx
[23:39] <newbyx86> See where it's pointing, just update it if it's wrong.
[23:39] <thehumanerror> I just deleted my /media/cdrom0 and /media/cdrom1 because I wanted Ubuntu to just use cdrom0, and I deleted the soft link cdrom as well, fully expecting Ubuntu / HAL or something to make it again when the device is re-plugged. It didn't. Now what do I do!
[23:39] <thehumanerror> please
[23:40] <ttt> icqnumber, I already did apt-get remove nvidia* :)
[23:40] <legend2440> matt444: thats seems to be happening a lot.  not sure why
[23:40] <matt444> newbyx86:  huh?  trash applet doesn't have a properties.
[23:40] <l3x> what is the name of console web browser? links or lynks or lynx, or what?
[23:40] <newbyx86> matt444 -- sorry then. I use Ubuntu Server; my desktop is Vista. :P
[23:40] <matt444> legend2440:  because it's hardcoded in, i'm sure.
[23:40] <newbyx86> l3x: links or lynx is a CLI web browser.
[23:40] <newbyx86> are both*
[23:40] <Starnestommy> l3x: there are several.  links, links2, lynx, w3m, ane elinks are some
[23:40] <icqnumber> ttt, then reconfigure X, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[23:40] <l3x> newbyx86: than you.
[23:40] <matt444> legend2440:  is then an upstream change or just ubuntu?  Seems insane to change directory structure that has existed for a long long time.
[23:40] <l3x> newbyx86: thanK you:)
[23:41] <ttt> icqnumber, I changed it manually to the vesa driver
[23:41] <alecs> hi
[23:41] <legend2440> matt444: yes it does. not sure if its just ubuntu or not
[23:41] <jerkface03> hie
[23:41] <icqnumber> ttt, manually is not the way is prefered
[23:41] <codecaine> :)
[23:41] <daves111> legend2440: couldn't change it ... says I don't have permissions necessart
[23:41] <ttt> icqnumber, ok, i'll do what you said :)
[23:42] <daves111> legend2440: I mean necessary
[23:42] <icqnumber> ttt, you have allready installed that manually :-P is it not enough for you
[23:42] <legend2440> daves111: in terminal type   gksu gedit /etc/hosts   then edit and save file
[23:42] <daves111> legend2440: ok
[23:43] <alecs> i would like to configure and install from sources git on my computer ... how can i instruct configure command to install it in a certain dir "/usr/local/git"
[23:43] <newbyx86> ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/git
[23:43] <newbyx86> ?
[23:43] <Rampage> alecs: use PREFIX swithc
[23:43] <Rampage> newbyx86: looks right
[23:44] <newbyx86> It'll stick them in /usr/local/git/bin, /usr/local/git/lib, etc
[23:44] <newbyx86> but it'll be contained in /usr/local/git
[23:44] <matt444> !trash
[23:44] <ttt> icqnumber, the nvidia module is still there :(
[23:44] <philosophe> !seen asul*
[23:44] <Starnestommy> newbyx86: /usr/local should work
[23:44] <Acglaphotis> hey, does anyone know of a way to invert the colors on the screen without compiz?
[23:44] <newbyx86> Starnestommy: someone wanted to install something in /usr/local/git, not /usr/local
[23:44] <newbyx86> Otherwise prefix isn't needed necessarily. :P
[23:44] <daves111> legend2440: just get a blinking cursor
[23:44] <philosophe> !seen folders
[23:45] <Starnestommy> philosophe: ubottu doesn't understand !seen
[23:45] <philosophe> How to write in floders locked by root ?
[23:45] <newbyx86> philosophe: use sudo
[23:45] <puff> icqnumber: Thanks.
[23:45] <Shak-> I'm having a sound problem, I can hear those sound notifications in gmail chat but I don't hear anything when I go to play a video file or mp3..  any idea? a reboot usually fixes this but I'd like to know whats wrong
[23:45] <David__> http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b321/IncomingF5/DSC00349.jpg can anyone tell me what the problem is there the cut off part said something about not read only or only read only
[23:45] <philosophe> in the graphical Mode i mean
[23:45] <philosophe> ?
[23:45] <legend2440> daves111: do you see anything in the file?
[23:45] <newbyx86> Are you trying to edit a file or just browse?
[23:45] <Starnestommy> philosophe: alt+F2, then enter gksudo nautilus
[23:45] <newbyx86> Or that.
[23:45] <newbyx86> That works too. :P
[23:45] <philosophe> Cool i'll give a try
[23:46] <Starnestommy> philosophe: but be careful if you're dealing with important files
[23:46] <Rampage> i'm never too keen on opening nautilus as root
[23:46] <newbyx86> only way to learn is to break
[23:46] <daves111> after I typed what you said, I just get a cursor ... nothing else .... nothing else on that line
[23:46] <Rampage> newbyx86: yep :)
[23:46] <daves111> legend2440: see not above
[23:47] <daves111> legend2440: I mean note above
[23:47] <legend2440> daves111: ok in terminal  type   gksudo gedit /etc/hosts
[23:47] <jerkface03> Anyone know where one would get the sourcecode to xclock/xeyes/etc.. (xapps)?
[23:47] <philosophe> Good xD
[23:47] <philosophe> it works :)
[23:47] <philosophe> OK
[23:47] <mneptok> jerkface03: from the source packages perhaps?
[23:48] <daves111> legend2440: nothing but the black block cursor
[23:48] <jerkface03> mneptok: where can i go to find the source package?
[23:48] <Shak-> anyone? why does my sound just stop working randomly then come back when I reboot
[23:48] <Jordan_U> Shak-, I think that's because flash does not work with pulseaudio yet, you have a few options if that is the problem you are having. 1: install libflashsupport to get in development and still buggy ( makes flash less stable ) support for flash in pulseaudio 2: stop using pulseaudio and instead use ALSA directly ( this can be done from System -> Preferences -> Sound )
[23:48] <deeperror> yey ff3 rc1
[23:48] <SonicComKid> Quick simple question guys. I'm installing Ubuntu. At the last step when it asks about installing a boot loader, if I tell it to install the boot loader to the Ubuntu partition, that means as long as that partition is active, it'll boot, right? Meaning I don't have to install it to the master boot record, right?
[23:48] <legend2440> daves111: ok close and then open new terminal and try     sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[23:48] <Shak-> Jordan_U: wait, why is flash involved?
[23:49] <newbyx86> SonicComKid: are you using any other operating systems?
[23:49] <daves111> legend2440: same thing
[23:49] <Rampage> SonicComKid: if its XP you are using you can install it as master
[23:49] <newbyx86> SonicComKid: If you install to the MBR, and Windows is/was previously installed, the MBR will boot over your Ubuntu partition.
[23:49] <newbyx86> er, don't install to the MBR, and ...
[23:49] <newbyx86> Yeah.
[23:49] <SonicComKid> yes sda1 is XP, sda2 is reserved for Vista, and sda3 is Ubuntu
[23:49] <legend2440> daves111: ok try in new terminal  gksudo nautilus
[23:50] <newbyx86> If you don't install to the MBR I doubt it'll boot Ubuntu.
[23:50] <newbyx86> SonicComKid: And btw, when you install Vista, it'll overwrite whatever's on your MBR.
[23:50] <newbyx86> So I'd install Vista then install Ubuntu. :)
[23:50] <fiXXXerMet> I have two hard drives in my computer, with ubuntu on the first.  Can I install xp on the second drive and then just pick wich hard drive to boot to from the bios?
[23:50] <SonicComKid> I already talked about the Vista issue
[23:50] <newbyx86> fiXXXerMet: It'll boot the MBR/first partition of the first hard-drive.
[23:51] <fiXXXerMet> If I I tell the bios to boot from the second drive?
[23:51] <SonicComKid> what I want to know is if I install the boot loader to sda3, as long as sad3 is the active primary, will Ubuntu boot?
[23:51] <daves111> legend2440: same thing; maybe I need to go to different directory or sign in with pass
[23:51] <newbyx86> SonicComKid: I don't think so. If there's anything on the MBR it'll boot the MBR first.
[23:51] <SonicComKid> sda*
[23:51] <mneptok> jerkface03: enable source repos in /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:51] <electroman87> hello
[23:51] <newbyx86> fiXXXerMet: I don't know.  :P
[23:51] <mneptok> SonicComKid: you need to put GRUB in the MBR
[23:52] <SonicComKid> Last time I did this, I installed it to the master boot record, and it completely screwed up XP. Even though GRUB had an entry pointing to XP's parition correctly, it would not boot
[23:52] <legend2440> daves111:  in terminal try   sudo -i
[23:52] <SonicComKid> I don't want to do that error again
[23:52] <Rampage> SonicComKid: I'm dual booting with XP and i have no such problem
[23:52] <newbyx86> SonicComKid: That's weird. XP/Vista's boot loader won't load Ubuntu.
[23:52] <mneptok> SonicComKid: Windows happily uses other bootloaders, including GRUB
[23:52] <newbyx86> So you should try GRUB and if that fails, look into LILO.
[23:52] <newbyx86> I used LILO when I dualbooted Slackware and XP.
[23:52] <Jack_Sparrow> SonicComKid Make a backup of the mbr so you can easily restore it
[23:52] <newbyx86> And it worked just peachy.
[23:52] <SonicComKid> ...okay.. I'll try the master boot record again, but I had troubles with that before
[23:53] <newbyx86> Jack_Sparrow: no need to really make a backup eitherw ay. Can always just put in an XP CD and fixmbr from a recovery console.
[23:53] <SonicComKid> I have no tools to backup the MBR
[23:53] <daves111> legend2440: ok, asked for pass; I put it in and now says root@daves111-desktop
[23:53] <mneptok> newbyx86: the NT bootloader can load Linux (or other OSes), but it's a PITA to set up
[23:53] <Rampage> i tend to restore the mbr using the windows recovery CD and running fixboot and fixmbr
[23:53] <newbyx86> mneptok: You have to take the first 512 bytes or whatever and put it in a file?
[23:53] <Jack_Sparrow> newbyx86 Personally I always backup my mbrs
[23:53] <newbyx86> I've read through that -- it doesn't look like fun or like it's worth it :P
[23:53] <siekacz> hello
[23:53] <legend2440> daves111: ok good. now type gedit /etc/hosts
[23:53] <mneptok> newbyx86: nothing relating to Windows is "worth it" ;)
[23:53] <newbyx86> Haha.
[23:54] <SonicComKid> boot loader is installing to sda
[23:54] <newbyx86> Anyway, anybody want to confirm for me whether or not the statistics for a network interface reset at like, 4GB transmitted (RX or TX independent)?
[23:54] <Jack_Sparrow> SonicComKid   cd Desktop     sudo dd if=/dev/sda of=mbr.backup bs=512 count=1
[23:54] <Jack_Sparrow> assumind sda
[23:54] <daves111> legend2440: ok .. worked
[23:54] <Jack_Sparrow> assuming sda
[23:54] <legend2440> daves111: try to open update manager
[23:54] <siekacz> compiz works, but cases many artifacts :/
[23:54] <genius> is there some software, that will allow to record my desktop - i want to record a tutorial!
[23:55] <Rampage> only at 1.2GB and 2GB here
[23:55] <mneptok> !info recordmydesktop
[23:55] <Rampage> @ newbyx86
[23:55] <genius> gnome
[23:55] <newbyx86> Rampage: for transmitting?
[23:55] <genius> thnx!
[23:55] <newbyx86> I transmitted ~20GB of music and such, and it would never go past 4GB.
[23:55] <SonicComKid> Jack_Sparrow, uhh... no idea where that'd be saved, nor how to restore it after
[23:55] <genius> mneptok: thanx!
[23:55] <newbyx86> I'd ifconfig and it would be at like... 30MB received when I know I've sent more.
[23:55] <SeanL9941> im back,
[23:55] <daves111> legend2440: ok it's open
[23:55] <Rampage> newbyx86: TX 1.2GB RX 2GB
[23:56] <daves111> legend2440: it's ready ... am I?
[23:56] <Jack_Sparrow> SonicComKid it will be saved to the hd desktop and you use live cd to mount the hd to restore it.. one sec for that command
[23:56] <Rampage> I have a 50GB upload on linuxdc++ so i'm guessing thats correct newbyx86
[23:56] <SeanL9941> i put the ubuntu disc in my other comp and i get to 'run from disc to try out..' and all i get from there is command prompt that says (initramfs) _
[23:56] <newbyx86> Haha.
[23:56] <legend2440> daves111: ok good. that will also fix the problem you were having with gksudo gedit /etc/hosts
[23:56] <newbyx86> That's weird stuff I guess. I wonder if that's a feature or just a random bug.
[23:56] <jobr07ab> Hay peole
[23:56] <Rampage> never noriced it though newbyx86
[23:56] <SonicComKid> Jack_Sparrow, I'm using live CD, I don't have any hard disks mounted
[23:57] <Rampage> as long as it works no point poking it :P
[23:57] <newbyx86> I first noticed it and I thought "oh no, did my computer randomly reboot?" and a w confirmed it didn't.
[23:57] <Jack_Sparrow> SonicComKid You can save the mbr to a usb...Boot Livecd...Insert USB Drive...Copy the mbr.backup to the Desktop...go to Terminal...dd if=mbr.backup of=/dev/sda bs=1
[23:57] <SonicComKid> I just told the installer to write the boot loader to sda
[23:57] <newbyx86> Not very important, but hey, something neat. :P
[23:57] <newbyx86> Oh well. Thanks for confirming that Rampage. I guess I'll hang around now and help other people :P
[23:57] <Rampage> newbyx86: I'll try monitor mine and see if it goes over
[23:57] <daves111> legend2440: God bless you! I've tried to fix this for a long time; even re-installed ubuntu
[23:57] <Jordan_U> Shak-, Do mp3s work after boot but before opening the browser?
[23:57] <ttt> by the way, problem solved, just uninstalled and deleted nvidia* and reinstalled using the nvidia.com script :)
[23:57] <SeanL9941> Rampage: i put the livecd/install cd in my comp and all i get is initramfs, what do i type besides Help
[23:57] <Rampage> i should go off and do some revision
[23:57] <legend2440> daves111: no problem   take care
[23:58] <daves111> legend2440: I've been on here before but have got the strangest answers
[23:58] <SeanL9941> there isnt a specific amd and/or intel version like the osx86 ?
[23:58] <daves111> legend2440: it is downloading as we speak
[23:58] <Shak-> Jordan_U: they work fine most of the time (even when the browser is in use), I think its when something takes over the audio controller that everything else can't play
[23:58] <Rampage> SeanL9941: this when you try booting from the disk?
[23:58] <legend2440> daves111: its kind of a new problem. i think the updates are changing that file
[23:59] <SeanL9941> yes from the cd
[23:59] <ttt> anyway thx for the help icqnumber and benpicco
[23:59] <SeanL9941> and i get the language option, pick english then i have 3-4 other options "try it out" or "install"
[23:59] <Jordan_U> Shak-, Then that thing taking over is most likely flash, try either of the two options I mentioned
[23:59] <jobr> This is very long time since i have been at IRC, how do i list channels/rooms
[23:59] <Rampage> install SeanL9941
[23:59] <SeanL9941> but i wanted to 'try it' first?
[23:59] <daves111> legend2440: legend2440would that also effect some other things
[23:59] <Shak-> Jordan_U: my audio controller has always been set to HDA Intel (Alsa mixer)
[23:59] <SeanL9941> er... just a guess but the installer runs the live first doesnt it?
[23:59] <Rampage> SeanL9941: try it out will load it all up in ram for that session only