[06:18] <tsrk> usaguy987: It depends if you do a default server or truly minimal (JeOS) install
[06:18] <blud> woot, i actually got my shared network folder stuff working
[06:18] <rww> usaguy987: It uses bash, not busybox by default. nano is default; for pine you'd want to install the 'alpine' package
[06:18] <tsrk> usaguy987: I think the default server install includes nano and stuff
[06:18] <tzyys> i had install ubuntu to dell netbook it work well
[06:18] <daedaluz> how is busybox not full unix command set?
[06:19] <usaguy987> alright- but they can all be installed? I ask this because I am reading "teach yourself unix in a week" by dave taylor, and I need a good distro with all the commands he talks about. I have Puppy linux now, and most of the commands he uses in the book do not work on it....
[06:19] <potat0> usaguy987: mandriva for newbies
[06:19] <potat0> ive heard its good for atleast newbies
[06:20] <daedaluz> just install the tools
[06:20] <potat0> i've had the back luck(or good?) of starting with gentoo
[06:20] <potat0> made life hell
[06:20] <potat0> but taught moar
[06:20] <rww> usaguy987: yes, they should all be there or be installable
[06:20] <dnivra> usaguy987, you can find out what tools he uses and install them. i think only the installation part would vary. tool would work the same.
[06:20] <sacarlson> usaguy987: doesn't the book recommend what destro to use?  if you choose to follow that book best to use his input
[06:21] <usaguy987> well I'm a newbie, but not in the true sense of the word... I want to learn unix from the ground up- that is, from the command line. I could care less about the GUI at this point. I want to learn the basics... operate it fully from an ssh client... That is my goal for now, I can learn a gui anytime....
[06:21] <potat0> im way too happy today
[06:21] <daedaluz> install Gentoo
[06:21] <daedaluz> be a pro in seconds
[06:21] <potat0> ^ only if you've a second box with google
[06:21] <usaguy987> well this book was written 7 years ago! lol.... he recommends telnetting into a unix box... lol
[06:21] <potat0> telnet _is good_
[06:21] <rww> no, it's not
[06:22] <dnivra> potat0, definitely not good!
[06:22] <potat0> well, for some reasons it is good
[06:22] <Gimbli> usaguy987: try debian netinstall. it offers the basic operating system without any additional tools or server services and you only need apt or aptitude to add additional stuff :)
[06:22] <liverwurst> telnet will save your butt one day
[06:22] <rww> If you're looking to get your password stolen, it's a good choice.
[06:22] <industry__> if that book is still using telnet then it's really old
[06:22] <daedaluz> it sounds cool, kinda like Telstar, the satellite the guys made a pop song out of
[06:23] <potat0> for diagnostics (and non paranoid mode) telnet is great
[06:23] <usaguy987> lol I know haha
[06:23] <rww> not throwing your password out there in plain text isn't paranoia, it's common sense
[06:24] <industry__> netcat is a far more useful tool than telnet
[06:24] <dnivra> usaguy987, any distro with a CLI. since he says telnet, you choose any distro. read his command, run it, get an error find out what's wrong and try fixing it. google will help a lot here. the tools as rww should be there and installable. you'll have slight hiccups only mostly but you'll get along fine.
[06:24] <daedaluz> srsly, install Gentoo or Arch if you want to learn CLI the good way
[06:24] <rww> and between that and openssh-server being horribly easier than any telnetd to set up on Debian/Ubuntu, there's no reason to use telnetd :\
[06:24] <usaguy987> OK cool thanks guys! I'm excited to learn this!! :)
[06:25] <potat0> true about the plaintext thing
[06:25] <potat0> oh well
[06:26] <akshit_> I have installed Ubuntu 10.10 on My Laptop with full Hard Drive Space, and now I wanna also install Windows 7 with it, so how can I make a partition for installing Windows 7????
[06:26] <dnivra> rww, and openssh-server being much more secure than telnetd :).
[06:26] <potat0> akshit_: fdisk?
[06:26] <potat0> gui: gparted
[06:26] <deww> akshit_: gparted, maye need to be installed
[06:27] <deww> windows 7 may attempt to takeover the bootloader so you may need to fix that
[06:27] <Gimbli> akshit_: and you should have a ubuntu cd at your hands afterwards as you might need to fix your mbr
[06:27] <potat0> talking of windoze
[06:27] <akshit_> potat0 and deww: Can you tell me in steps
[06:27] <dnivra> deww, not attempt to, it will :).
[06:27] <potat0> i forgot i needed to download win7 64bit
[06:27] <industry__> and also, you should back up your data before you try to install windows, as it has a good reputation for wrecking data
[06:28] <akshit_> Gimbli, but I installed it via a Pen Drive
[06:28] <dnivra> !fixgrub | akshit_
[06:28] <potat0> www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html
[06:28] <dnivra> akshit_, you'll need the grub thing later.
[06:29] <ugmg> akshit :  first windows and then  linux   or if u have enough Ram and disk space use vmware and install windows
[06:30] <akshit_> dnivra, OK
[06:30] <potat0> how much space is needed for windows 7?
[06:30] <potat0> i was thinking of gaming (haven't in a long while)
[06:30] <potat0> 20 gb?
[06:30] <dnivra> ugmg, i'd prefer virtualbox over vmware :)
[06:30] <rww> potat0: no idea. ask ##windows :\
[06:31] <sacarlson> I can't seem to find the zebedee package in synaptic in my ubuntu 10.04,  can someone look and see if this is just a mirror problem on my side by looking in your synaptic?
[06:31] <rww> !info zebedee lucid
[06:32] <Chris-Linux> Excuse me Dear Ubuntu Users, anyone here any good with Kernels/
[06:32] <Chris-Linux> ??
[06:32] <potat0> rww: seems dead, but asked there
[06:32] <potat0> Chris-Linux: ask
[06:32] <Chris-Linux> Basically i installed Ubuntu Ultimate which is running Mavrick.
[06:33] <Chris-Linux> And when i go to Compile ALSA it says that a ncursers library is missing
[06:33] <rww> Chris-Linux: Ubuntu Ultimate isn't supported here.
[06:33] <Chris-Linux> Noo, this is about Mavrick
[06:33] <potat0> Chris-Linux: install ncurses
[06:33] <akshit_> potat0, the setup is 3.5 GB and you can make hard disk 20GB Minimum, for best use.
[06:33] <rww> Chris-Linux: No, you're running an unofficial derivative, so you can't use #ubuntu for support.
[06:33] <potat0> its not there by default in ubuntu
[06:33] <Chris-Linux> Exactly, what command would i use to install it?
[06:34] <Chris-Linux> thats all im asking
[06:34] <Chris-Linux> because i have the same problem on my 10.10 install
[06:34] <potat0> apt-get install ncurses
[06:34] <rww> uh huh.
[06:34] <potat0> wait
[06:34] <Chris-Linux> it says there is no such package :(
[06:34] <potat0> apt-get install ncurses-* OR search and install
[06:34] <industry__> try aptitude search ncurses to find the right library
[06:34] <potat0> libncurses5 is what you're looking for
[06:34] <horseatingweeds> Is there a handy software package for monitoring board temps, fans, and so on?
[06:34] <potat0> probably
[06:34] <rww> !lm-sensors | horseatingweeds
[06:35] <industry__> you mean lm-sensors?
[06:35] <potat0> akshit_: thanks
[06:35] <Chris-Linux> not a problem. Thanks peoples =D
[06:35] <industry__> beat me to it, rww
[06:35] <sacarlson> rww: well that explains it ,  I guess it's no longer supported?  seems it stoped at karmic
[06:35] <sacarlson> rww: thank you
[06:35] <foolhardy> in the gui I can tell ubuntu to use "NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version 173)", how can this be accomplished in cli
[06:36] <rww> sacarlson: correct. it was removed from lucid per https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/495216
[06:36] <dnivra> foolhardy, try lshw.
[06:37] <foolhardy> dnivra, sudo lshw?
[06:37] <dnivra> foolhardy, yeah it does need sudo.
[06:37] <pssalman> KM0201: sorry for bothering... i have downloaded and installed gnome ppp (all downloads using windows) but the software doesn't detect my modem
[06:38] <gonzoism> i haven't been able to burn a cd in linux for a year.  anyone else been having these problems ?
[06:38] <foolhardy> dnivra, "sudo: lshw: command not found"
[06:38] <dnivra> foolhardy, it works fine here for me.
[06:38] <foolhardy> I'm using a stripped down ubuntu from xbmclive
[06:38] <foolhardy> ---xbmclive with geforce fx5500, so I have to tell it to use legacy drivers
[06:39] <gonzoism> it has been very irritating.
[06:39] <gonzoism> today i am getting this: wodim: CD/DVD-Recorder not ready.
[06:39] <gonzoism> different drives, different computers, different distros; all the same problem.  can't burn a cd.
[06:40] <dnivra> foolhardy, no idea. maybe somebody else can help. i'm not sure if lshw is the correct command either; just a thought.
[06:40] <gonzoism> km0201  do you know what kind of modem you have ?
[06:40] <rww> foolhardy: You'd have to ask the XBMC people about it. xbmclive makes packaging changes that we don't support, and isn't an official or supported derivative of Ubuntu.
[06:41] <rww> foolhardy: additionally, I don'
[06:41] <nit-wit> gonzoism, you can't burn a cd that boots or one at all
[06:41] <rww> t think we even support Ubuntu MID (which is what it's based on) any more :\
[06:41] <akshit_> I have installed Ubuntu 10.10 on My Laptop with full Hard Drive Space, and now I wanna also install Windows 7 with it, so how can I make a partition for installing Windows 7???? Can someone tell me how to do this, in steps.
[06:41] <gonzoism> nit-wit  one at all.
[06:42] <pavanai> akshit:do u hav gparted?
[06:42] <akshit_> pavanai, yes
[06:42] <xangua> !grub2
[06:42] <xangua> akshit_: always better install windows first and then anything else; you will need to restore grub
[06:42] <nit-wit> gonzoism, that s strange I have had very little problems, I know it doesn't help to say that sorry.
[06:42] <pavanai> akshit:try a resize
[06:42] <akshit_> pavanai, how
[06:42] <nit-wit> xangua, that is incorrect
[06:42] <pssalman> i need help with my usb adsl modem and ubuntu 10.10
[06:43] <pavanai> akshit:open gparted
[06:43] <akshit_> pavanai, ok
[06:43] <gonzoism> nit-wit:  that is ok.  i'm thinking it is some kind of kernel problem being it is across distros, i was looking for the answer you gave.  are you 32 bit or 64 ?
[06:43] <pavanai> akshit:select the partition
[06:43] <akshit_> pavanai, selected
[06:43] <pavanai> akshit:right click and click on resixe
[06:43] <nit-wit> xangua, restore grub yes but W7 can be installed second
[06:43] <pavanai> akshit:right click and click on resize
[06:43] <nit-wit> gonzoism, 32bit
[06:44] <akshit_> pavanai, Resize option is unclickable
[06:44] <nit-wit> pavanai, turn off the swao
[06:44] <sacarlson> so would strongswan be a better tunnel method for a client to setup reverse tunnel to enable a host to remote desktop in,  then an ssh tunnel method?
[06:44] <xangua> nit-wit: i said always better, not Allways by force
[06:44] <xangua> ......
[06:44] <pavanai> swap?
[06:44] <gonzoism> nit-wit  oddly enough, 8.04.4 can with different burners.  thanks
[06:44] <me__w> hey
[06:44] <horseatingweeds> rww, looks like I have lm-sensors installed. Are there commands or a UI? lm-sensor.org is confusing me.
[06:44] <pavanai> akshit:swao?
[06:45] <akshit_> pavanai, what swao?
[06:45] <me__w> nit-wit: m back,pls tell me how to install kubuntu on my lapi?
[06:45] <pavanai> akshit:turn off swao?
[06:45] <rww> horseatingweeds: take a look at the guide ubottu linked you to ;)
[06:45] <nit-wit> pavanai, hold on a second
[06:45] <gonzoism> horseeatingweeds:  you have the sensors command.  man sensors and see what it says at the bottom on "see also:"
[06:45] <akshit_> pavanai, how?
[06:45] <horseatingweeds> rww, I am. lm-sensors.org.
[06:46] <rww> horseatingweeds: the link was https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto :\
[06:46] <nit-wit> akshit_, are you on a live Ubuntu cd
[06:46] <me__w> i hav kubuntu.iso setup and dont know how to install it???????/pls elp me
[06:46] <akshit_> nit-wit, no I have installed it
[06:47] <akshit_> nit-wit, on My Laptop
[06:47] <nit-wit> me__w, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop in the terminal
[06:47] <akshit_> nit-wit, with full hard drive space
[06:48] <pavanai> akshit:wt u mean by swao?isit swao or swap?
[06:48] <me__w> nit-wit: no man i hav downloaded kubuntu dekstop from download them all in mozilla now how to install it in laptop
[06:48] <akshit_> pavanai, when did I say swao, nit-wit said it
[06:48] <nit-wit> akshit_, so you want to shrink the HD to fit W7 in you need to resize that Partition from a live Ubuntu cd using gparted, and right click the swap to turn it off
[06:48] <akshit_> pavanai, its swap
[06:48] <pssalman> anyone would help with my usb adsl modem
[06:49] <xangua> me__w: no idea what you want to do, just make a partiton to it and install it like you installed ubuntu
[06:49] <thinh_> co ai o vietnamese ko
[06:49] <horseatingweeds> rww, indeed. That page is more helpful.
[06:49] <akshit_> nit-wit, thats it?
[06:49] <pavanai> akshit:did u get that resize option?
[06:49] <me__w> xangua: how to make partition dn
[06:50] <xangua> me__w: with gparted
[06:50] <xangua> from the live cd
[06:50] <akshit_> pavanai, let me go to Live USB, and then I'll chat wid u
[06:50] <nit-wit> akshit_, shrink the Ubuntu and make a ntfs partition for WE7 put a boot flag on it then install to that pre made partition.
[06:50] <akshit_> ok
[06:50] <me__w> nit-wit: after partition how to run dat setup
[06:50] <bucky> pssalman, have you checked this out https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/modems-adsl-usb.html
[06:50] <xangua> always better to make a copy of your files before modifying a partiton me__w
[06:51] <akshit_> nit-wit, how to make boot flag?? Is there an option for that?
[06:51] <me__w> xangua: ok thanks
[06:51] <pavanai> akshit,ok
[06:51] <thinh_> co ai o VietNam ko na
[06:51] <nit-wit> akshit_, you would right click on the ntfs and then flag then click boot
[06:52] <akshit_> nit-wit, ok thanks
[06:52] <akshit_> :)
[06:52] <nit-wit> akshit_, you build this partition to keep W7 from making Ubuntu unallocated. Do you know how many partitions are on the computer now?
[06:53] <Rena-> hi, I've been tinkering with xorg.conf and I have it seemingly working great - "sudo startx" gives me a nice working desktop, login screen looks fine... but when I log in the screen flashes and it logs me out again.
[06:54] <nit-wit> pavanai, sorry I didn't mean to interupt you I was just making sure we were on the same page.:)
[06:55] <coolness88> hi
[06:55] <deco> hello
[06:56] <TheMusicGuy> Happy new year.
[06:56] <Rena-> is there a config file or something that runs when I log in, that I need to tweak or get rid of to make GDM login work again?
[06:56] <comulent> hey all. i know this isn't exactly an ubuntu related question, but i have this super irritating bluetooth mouse that i can't figure out how to make it discoverable. It's branded "tecom" and I can't find any websites by them that would reveal the solution to this mystery.... any ideas? And yes, i've already tried holding down buttons in various combinations for more than 5 seconds at a time.....
[06:57] <TheMusicGuy> That being said...Why does nautilus crash when I try to view the properties on a .it (Impulse Tracker Module) file?
[06:57] <rooks> how to zoom out from zoom in? somehow my cat managed to enable zoom in feature in my ubuntu by lying on my laptop
[06:57] <xangua> rooks: Control+scroll
[06:57] <xangua> Super(windows)+scroll ; sorry
[06:57] <TheMusicGuy> xangua, actually those are both different types of zoom.
[06:58] <Ripley> I am having an odd issue with SSH tunneling.  I have a VPS of Ubuntu 10.04.  I get this error - Client connection closed before completion of protocol.  It seems to stall the page loading.  Its a fresh install.  I can also use the same setup with 2 other SSH servers without issue.
[06:58] <rooks> xangua, ah, thanks , its windowskey+scroll btw
[06:59] <tipu> is it possible to get some help regarding ubuntu?
[06:59] <xin> Anyoen have any idea on how to change BIOS Splash Screen??
[06:59] <rooks> !ask | tipu
[06:59] <raj-k> boards.4chan.org/g/res/15117172
[06:59] <raj-k> is this possible?
[06:59] <Xin> anyoen?
[06:59] <raj-k> or even likely?
[06:59] <raj-k> subject: Major flaw in kernel
[07:01] <tipu> i have fubared my ruby installation with Ubuntu 10.04.1. i got it from the repositories, then built my own using a tar file, and now would like to purge my both installations of it completely. how would i go about doing that?
[07:03] <xangua> tipu: just read the instructions to uninstall, normally just delete the program directory
[07:03] <bucky> tipu, does the build directory you dl'd have an option for make uninstall or some such?
[07:03] <CQN> hi, can anyone help me fix overscan with the radeonhd driver? i'm trying to do it with xrandr
[07:03] <CQN> i'm using this command: xrandr --output HDMI-0 --scale 0.9x0.9 --pos 500x500
[07:04] <CQN> the scale should be right or close to it, but the picture is still anchored in the top left, off screen
[07:04] <CQN> and --pos doesn't seem to fix that
[07:04] <bucky> tipu, if not you can probably remove it by manually deleting the ruby files under /usr/local  look at the time stamps if in doubt
[07:04] <gozznail> happy new year everyone
[07:04] <tipu> bucky: i am not sure, if it did i wouldn't be able to determine it, i'm relatively now to linux/ubuntu
[07:04] <sync3times> gozznail, happy new year
[07:05] <potat0> happy near year everyone
[07:06] <MrAnthrope> :)
[07:06] <tipu> does whereis help me in this situation at all? how do i determine whether it's been completely removed?
[07:06] <bucky> tipu, ls /usr/local/bin  is there a ruby binary in there?
[07:06] <gozznail> i have been trying to find a command to stop the xserver so i can install the nvidia drivers but all i can find on the net is wrong
[07:06] <MrAnthrope> Could someone explain to me how to get this installed and working in wine? This page is like no help, right? http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=5997
[07:06] <tipu> bucky: no
[07:06] <bucky> tipu, you installed it from a tar ball?
[07:06] <tipu> bucky: but there is in /usr/bin/ruby1.8 (this particular one was installed from the repositories)
[07:06] <tipu> bucky: yes
[07:07] <gozznail> seems it has changed
[07:07] <xangua> MrAnthrope: just install wine and then just install that app¿
[07:07] <MrAnthrope> It's not working as intended :(
[07:07] <bucky> tipu, did you use a ./configure --prefix=/usr  or someother place?
[07:08] <tipu> bucky: no
[07:08] <MrAnthrope> When I try to click on Everquest2 it opens another launcher window with what looks like IE and the page doesn't load.
[07:08] <tipu> also, where can i go to determine the $PATH of a fresh ubuntu installation?
[07:08] <bucky> tipu, did you actually make install when it got done compiling?
[07:09] <apostatedpriest> happy new year everyone.
[07:09] <bucky> tipu, type env
[07:10] <tipu> bucky: i believe so. i am not 100% certain to be honest, as i was mostly following some site's guide
[07:10] <tipu> bucky: ok
[07:10] <bucky> tipu, which site?
[07:11] <Rena-> anyone? when I try to log in it just flashes and takes me back to the login screen. nothing in GDM logs to explain why.
[07:11] <tipu> bucky: unfortunately i am unable to determine at this point. i've visited well over 30+ sites trying to solve this particular problem and so i have forgotten.
[07:11] <Rena-> is there maybe a local xorg config file conflicting with xorg.conf?
[07:12] <tipu> bucky: what was the purpose of env?
[07:12] <bucky> tipu, go into synaptic and search for ruby and mark all for complete uninstallation and see if that cleans it out
[07:12] <bucky> tipu, it tells you your PATH
[07:13] <tipu> bucky: i am able to determine path by echo $PATH, but i was worried if i have added too much stuff to it and wanted to return it to it's original state.
[07:13] <toloykhan> hello
[07:13] <toloykhan> any body here
[07:13] <bucky> tipu, go into synaptic and search for ruby and mark all for complete uninstallation and see if that cleans it out
[07:13] <dnivra> is there a tool to defragment ntfs drives in ubuntu? I don't have windows anymore and fear that my ntfs partitions would get fragmented if I don't defragment.
[07:13] <tipu> bucky: i am doing that as we speak. i was originally connected via SSH, so this will take a bit to go into the GUI portion of it. i appreciate all the help thus far.
[07:13] <dnivra> toloykhan, there are about 1300 users here; not all are active though.
[07:15] <toloykhan> dnivra, I hope that you are active
[07:15] <dnivra> toloykhan, if you've a question about ubuntu, do ask. if somebody does know, they'll help out.
[07:16] <sync3times> dnivra,  not sure if its a good idea or not, but can you copy all your files out, delete them, then copy them back.   They would be optimal at that point
[07:16] <xper> happy new year...
[07:16] <toloykhan> ok, the question is how to add yahoo chat room to my xchat
[07:16] <dnivra> sync3times, wrong person perhaps?
[07:16] <sync3times> dnivra, maybe as part of a backup?
[07:16] <smw> toloykhan, I do not believe xchat can do that
[07:16] <sync3times> dnivra, you asked about defrag?
[07:16] <dnivra> toloykhan, use empathy or pidgin for that.
[07:16] <smw> toloykhan, the im client probably can
[07:17] <toloykhan> so, even with empathy I can't do that
[07:17] <dnivra> sync3times, oh yeah. okay. well i wish i could do that but i simply do not enough space on my hard disk to copy files and copy back. it is a good solution though.
[07:18] <smw> toloykhan, it probably can
[07:18] <toloykhan> im clint?
[07:18] <dnivra> toloykhan, empathy i'm not sure. pidgin sure can.
[07:18] <tipu> bucky: there was a number of ruby stuff there (gems as well), i marked everything for removal and applied it. it's removing as we speak.
[07:18] <horseatingweeds> rww, sensor-detect only found one driver, and that doesn't seem to give anything when you run sensors command.
[07:18] <bucky> tipu, if you're using the command line maybe apt-get purge ruby1.8  would be less trouble
[07:18] <toloykhan> I also try pidgin , but I don't know how to use it
[07:19] <tipu> bucky: i did that before. there was still a number of ruby items i had installed (a lot of them gem related, i believe).
[07:19] <dnivra> toloykhan, you can ask in #pidgin for pidgin related help.
[07:19] <tipu> bucky: now that's all gone, should i try installing again from repos? also, does apt-get vs. aptitude make a big difference in my case (that of a noob, i just want a dev server that's the whole purpose of this)
[07:20] <Jari0001> Hello!
[07:20] <bucky> tipu,  do you have the ruby command now?
[07:20] <bucky> is it gone
[07:20] <Jari0001> happy new year 2011
[07:20] <bucky> happy happy
[07:20] <tipu> bucky: The program 'ruby' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: sudo apt-get install ruby
[07:20] <Jari0001> i have 80 cd's i need to transfer to mp4
[07:20] <bucky> tipu, good.. start over
[07:21] <Jari0001> when i rip my cds with rhytmbox i wont get all the information what there is to get
[07:21] <tipu> bucky: i will be using the guide here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RubyOnRails
[07:21] <Jari0001> there is no artist name or number of the song
[07:21] <Jari0001> do i need to install a plugin ?
[07:21] <toloykhan> I will check that out and back here soon, thanx dnivra and others
[07:21] <landingonwater> auch.. updated ubuntu... cant boot now.
[07:22] <dnivra> toloykhan, no problem :).
[07:22] <landingonwater> i run vista and latest ubuntu
[07:22] <dnivra> landingonwater, what happens when you start the machine?
[07:22] <landingonwater> i choose ubuntu, and it just reboots into the bootmanager again :(
[07:23] <tipu> bucky: WOW, that fixed it. my problem was that 'gem command', gem was always giving me this odd ball error. so i nuked everything and it seems to have work. my only concern is that if i only had the CLI, how could i have done that?
[07:23] <landingonwater> i updated in ubuntu, and didnt notice the kernel update. stupid
[07:23] <bucky> tipu, rubygems is in the repos for maverick already just make sure you get the right version
[07:23] <landingonwater> dnivra: is there anything i can do ?
[07:23] <tipu> bucky: i think it was nuking the gems as well that helped, however i am not 100% sure. there is no command line possibility for nuking gems, AFAIK.
[07:23] <dnivra> landingonwater, can you access an older kernel?
[07:23] <tipu> bucky: i am not sure what maverick is
[07:23] <bucky> tipu, ubuntu 10.10
[07:24] <dnivra> tipu, maverick is the code name for ubuntu 10.10.
[07:24] <landingonwater> dnivra: i cant access anything. i do have a peppermint on cd though. but i dont know what the problem is.
[07:24] <tipu> i am not cool enough for code names, heh.
[07:24] <dnivra> landingonwater, you said you can access grub right?
[07:24] <tipu> bucky: i really appreciate the help. didn't think any place would be available at 11:24 PST new years eve, thanks again!! been driving me crazy for past 3 days, this problem.
[07:24] <landingonwater> dnivra: if i see the choice between windows and ubuntu, i guess thats the grub im looking at ?? or ??
[07:25] <dnivra> landingonwater, yeah. and do you see multiple entries of ubuntu there?
[07:25] <landingonwater> dnivra: ooh.. thats maybe windows ?
[07:25] <landingonwater> dnivra: i only see vista and ubuntu.. no more on that list :(
[07:26] <dnivra> landingonwater, do you see ubuntu more than two times?
[07:26] <landingonwater> dnivra: only once
[07:26] <dnivra> landingonwater, you updated ubuntu and there was a kernel update? are you sure?
[07:26] <tipu> does freenode block access from mibbit?
[07:27] <landingonwater> dnivra: yes.. there was a kernel update, and i was told to reboot to finish the installation
[07:27] <dnivra> tipu, yes it does. for more queries related to the above, please head to #freenode.
[07:27] <dnivra> landingonwater, and did you do anything like uninstalling old kernels before rebooting or did you reboot straight after update?
[07:27] <landingonwater> dnivra: when i chose Ubuntu, It just reboots
[07:28] <landingonwater> dnivra: there was a message saying i had to restart to finish the installation. i clicked resttart, and now im stuck.
[07:28] <landingonwater> dnivra: pretty dangerous update i would say :(
[07:28] <nullp0inter> im trying to find my Windows hard drive through xubuntu, however the 'Places' part of the task menu doesnt show up like it did with gnome...anyway to find it?
[07:29] <dnivra> landingonwater, so i'm pretty sure that old kernels still exist. could you pastebin your grub menu-i'll wait till you type everything out.
[07:29] <Guest24653> oh great a dumbed down version of xchat :P
[07:29] <dnivra> !pastebin | landingonwater
[07:29] <tipu> is kde vs gnome completely a subjective matter, or is there a technical reason to choosing one over the other?
[07:29] <nullp0inter> tipu, memory usage perhaps?
[07:30] <landingonwater> ubottu: thanks :)
[07:30] <dnivra> nullp0inter, you should perhaps ask in #xubuntu about this.
[07:30] <landingonwater> dnivra: how do i get the dump from grub ? i will need the peppermint then ?
[07:31] <dnivra> landingonwater, just boot your computer, type out the entries you see in grub and pastebin it. i assume you are using another computer?
[07:31] <rooks> tipu, KDE is prettier, but is more resource hungry, gnome gets stuff done and isnt an eyesore, just its not as shiny as kde
[07:32] <dnivra> landingonwater, if you are using the same computer, you can just pastebin grub.cfg/menu.lst depending on your version of ubuntu.
[07:32] <landingonwater> dnivra: only one laptop. but there is nothing to see really. after i chose Ubuntu and hit enter, it just restarts the machine. i think it say ntfs or something. maybe i cant see the disk ?
[07:32] <nullp0inter> dnivra #xubuntu is dead
[07:32] <landingonwater> dnivra: oohh.. crap... could that be the reason ?
[07:34] <denile> Hello all
[07:34] <Ripper_Owens> hello denile
[07:34] <Ripper_Owens> =D
[07:34] <cytenticle> Happy new years everyone
[07:34] <dnivra> landingonwater, could what be the reason? AFAIK, if there is a kernel update, a new grub.cfg/menu.lst is automatically generated which has entries for the new and old kernel. so you should be able to boot the old kernel still.
[07:34] <cytenticle> make 2011 awewsome
[07:36] <landingonwater> dnivra: okay.. i dont get the list showing the new and old kernel.
[07:37] <landingonwater> dnivra: will boot the peppermint now. auch... first day of the year :( what a sweet beginning :(
[07:40] <toloykhan> dnivra, and the other thanx for help , it's much easy with pidgin
[07:42] <pssalman> since my usb modem red light works ... how can i make a connection
[07:43] <pssalman> please help
[07:44] <toloykhan> passalman did you try sakis3g
[07:45] <pssalman> what is that?
[07:45] <sresu> I'm not able to use Amarok. <amarok --debug> gives this - http://pastebin.com/jvm8cSKc . How cxan I fix it?
[07:45] <dnivra> toloykhan, yeah sure. no problem :).
[07:46] <pssalman> toloykhan: what is sakis3g
[07:46] <dnivra> sresu, you should perhaps in #amarok.
[07:46] <fzlamn> what is the purpose of archive manager?
[07:47] <toloykhan> sakis3g is a software that help you connect with usb modems and phones
[07:47] <sresu> fzlamn: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[07:47] <toloykhan> you can download it form www.sakis3g.org
[07:47] <landingonwater> dnivra, im in peppermint now. opened a console. i see my ubuntu dir. i used wubi to install ubuntu. what should i look for _
[07:47] <fzlamn> sresu: thanks
[07:48] <clgshaft> any experts for nvidia and hdmi audio? i cannot get it to work
[07:48] <R3D> Happy New Years 2 All
[07:48] <Ripper_Owens> thanks R#D
[07:49] <Ripper_Owens> *R3D
[07:49] <sresu> !tab | Ripper_Owens
[07:49] <Ripper_Owens> lol yeah i fail at life too. i wish tab could ocmplete that
[07:50] <Ripper_Owens> complete*
[07:50] <pssalman> toloykhan: that's for 3g broadband... i dun think it will work
[07:50] <deepsix> #twil
[07:50] <deepsix> oh shit
[07:50] <Re1ndeer> Hello, everyone. Heard about Ubuntu because The Summit Bechtel Family National Scout Reserve facebook page talked about a Eagle Scout using Ubuntu as an OS. The OS sounded interesting. Just wondering if someone could exsplain more about Ubuntu.
[07:50] <toloykhan>  passalman  what is your modem type?
[07:51] <smw> Re1ndeer, it is not something easily explained
[07:52] <smw> Re1ndeer, imagine asking us to explain windows to you ;-)
[07:52] <Re1ndeer> true.
[07:53] <dnivra> landingonwater, sorry mate was away. yours is a wubi install eh? should've mentioned that. can you boot windows?
[07:53] <bucky> ubuntu is so easy... even a scout can use it
[07:53] <smw> Re1ndeer, I am sure plenty of users here would be willing to answer narrower questions :-)
[07:54] <Re1ndeer> Well, lets start with how do I get started. :P
[07:54] <Bacta> How would I best diagnose a problem with my touchpad? It went dead a couple of weeks ago and I'm wanting to know whether it's hardware or something that went wrong with Ubuntu
[07:54] <UBuxuBU> driver issue
[07:55] <smw> Re1ndeer, download the live cd, burn it, and test it
[07:55] <Bacta> UByxyBU: Yes, apologies
[07:55] <smw> Re1ndeer, you do not need to install it to test it, but data is not saved between reboots and it runs dead slow
[07:55] <landingonwater> dnivra, so i have different problem maybe because i used wubi installer _
[07:55] <ox3a> I am getting a error "wget:invalid option -- '/' " (This was my first test but this error). someone can help me please?
[07:55] <nit-wit> landingonwater, did you losse the windows boot or just ubuntu
[07:56] <nit-wit> *lose
[07:56] <smw> ox3a, what were you doing when you got the error?
[07:56] <ox3a> smw, 1 sec.. screen shot
[07:56] <landingonwater> nit-wit, vista works fine, and the ubuntu shows up as an option when i boot. but restarts when i chose it
[07:56] <Re1ndeer> smw, so when it asks me to save, I save it to a blank CD?
[07:56] <dnivra> nit-wit, quick update-he updated his ubuntu, there was a kernel update, he restarted and when he chooses ubuntu now, it restarts instead of booting.
[07:57] <landingonwater> nit-wit, ubuntu is my main now, so im pretty screwed
[07:57] <nit-wit> landingonwater, hold on there is a thread for this on a forum
[07:57] <dnivra> nit-wit, ^^ is what landingonwater is having.
[07:57] <smw> Re1ndeer, you first download it, then burn it to a disk. I recommend using infrarecorder for burning it
[07:57] <Re1ndeer> ok
[07:57] <bucky> Re1ndeer, https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/installation-guide/index.html
[07:57] <denile> ox3a, try quotes in your command maybe :)
[07:57] <smw> Re1ndeer, ubuntu is mostly for technically apt people. How good are you with computers?
[07:57] <nit-wit> dnivra, thanks
[07:58] <dnivra> nit-wit, sure np :).
[07:58] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, please tell us more
[07:58] <new> 大家聊什么呢
[07:58] <dnivra> !cn | new
[07:59] <denile> nice
[07:59] <new> 谢谢
[07:59] <Re1ndeer> swn, I think I am ok with computers. But I am willing to learn. :D
[07:59] <ox3a> denile, UBuxuBU i am taking a screeshote
[07:59] <landingonwater> haha.. the chinese are coming >D
[07:59] <Bacta> He said Thank you ;)
[07:59] <denile> ox3a, ok
[07:59] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, that / in a moount point
[07:59] <smw> Re1ndeer, being willing to learn is the best answer possible :-)
[07:59] <nit-wit> landingonwater, here is the thread the bootscript is really the important part in diagnosing this, this is mentioned in the main thread post, run it and post there, or read through and see if you recognize the fix. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1639198
[08:00] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, did you install a dual boot
[08:00] <view666> 新年快乐
[08:00] <Iszak> When is the usb-creator on Ubuntu going to be fixed? i can't even use it because it keeps erroring with "failed to install the bootloader"
[08:00] <okapi> Hi to all and happy new year
[08:00] <SwedeMike> !cn | view666
[08:00] <denile> okapi, Hello. Happy new year
[08:00] <dnivra> Iszak, it's worked for me but not in 10.10. you can try unetbootin-works the same.
[08:01] <dnivra> !info unetbootin | Iszak
[08:01] <smw> HAPPY NEW YEAR! (in California)
[08:01] <view666> sorry,happy new year,everynoe
[08:01] <okapi> my synaptic seems to be broken, I can not update my system anymore. Anyone can help?
[08:01] <dnivra> smw, view666 okapi welcome to the new year :).
[08:01] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, yeah with vista
[08:01] <landingonwater> nit-wit, checking it out now >( guess many others will run into this problem. im in peppermint now. guess thats a good idea. burned it for fun, but now it seems useful, i hope
[08:02] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, did u do advanced or side by side
[08:02] <smw> dnivra, we survived yet another year
[08:02] <nit-wit> landingonwater, the wubi if fixed can also be moved to a actual partition if you want a little more stability.
[08:02] <Re1ndeer> HAPPY NEW YEAR (Washington State)!!!!!!!
[08:02] <Tito0096_> HAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPYYYY NEW YEARS FROM THE PST
[08:02] <landingonwater> nit-wit, dnivra thanks ... really... this is so messed up
[08:02] <Tito0096_> HAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPYYYY NEW YEARS FROM THE PST
[08:02] <FloodBot4> Tito0096_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:02] <Iszak> dnivra, yeah i used that before.. but it makes me wonder why package and not test the usb-creator in 10.10
[08:02] <new> 我怎么去中文频道阿
[08:02] <nit-wit> landingonwater, your probably okay
[08:02] <dnivra> landingonwater, it always is. you're welcome :).
[08:03] <landingonwater> nit-wit, __ to an actual partition .. ooh.. so the wubi install is a problem in itself ?
[08:03] <DarkDante> hello and happy new year
[08:03] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, No just testing it only but i will do with advance option if it success(my test)
[08:03] <anon__> HAPPY NEW YEARS.
[08:03] <new> mi to
[08:03] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, did u use wubi
[08:03] <dnivra> smw, welcome to 2011 :). we will continue to survive-human spirit doesn't die easily just like ubuntu's spirit :).
[08:03] <new> new year haha
[08:03] <Tito0096_> WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooo!
[08:03] <new> 怎么去中文频道阿
[08:03] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, yeah
[08:03] <dnivra> new, this is english support channel.
[08:04] <dnivra> !cn | new
[08:04] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, THE / indicates a mount point error
[08:04] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, wubi has some issues
[08:04] <cutiyar> iam using 9.04 now and i want to upgrade to 10.04 Lts DIRECTLY HOW CAN I DO THIS?
[08:04] <DarkDante> please help for ubuntu in italian
[08:04] <rww> !it
[08:04] <nit-wit> landingonwater, there are a few assoiciated with it like grub updates that put grub in the mbr then nothing boots, easy fix though. It has its use for some I don't use it myself.
[08:04] <ox3a> denile, UBuxuBU smw http://img195.imageshack.us/i/screenshotdmf.png/
[08:05] <smw> ox3a, what command did you run?
[08:05] <dnivra> cutiyar, two ways to upgrade to 10.04 are get the cd/iso and install 10.04 or 9.04 -> 9.10 -> 10.04.
[08:05] <nit-wit> landingonwater, if you post the script  will give you my forum link for you to PM me if needed.
[08:05] <nit-wit> 8I
[08:05] <nit-wit> *I
[08:06] <cutiyar> I KNOW ABOUT DOWNLODING BY IT WITH isO,BUT I NEED IT DIRECTLY TO 10.04
[08:06] <landingonwater> nit-wit, great.. that would be nice. and many other unlucky wubi victims will have use of it
[08:06] <cutiyar> dnirva,I KNOW ABOUT DOWNLODING IT WITH isO,BUT I NEED IT DIRECTLY TO 10.04
[08:06] <deepsix> Happy new years, everyone!
[08:07] <smw> !caps | cutiyar
[08:07] <ox3a> smw, i did run anything manually (Just i follow uck step). And uck did not give any wget option .
[08:07] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, u are going to have to uninstall wubi and reinstall it
[08:07] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, wubi is problem?
[08:07] <cutiyar> dnirva, it take too long if i didi 9.10 > 10.04
[08:07] <dnivra> cutiyar, if you download 10.04 iso and install, you'd be upgrading to 10.04 direct right?
[08:07] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, the wubi uninstaller is fast and uninstalls everything
[08:07] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, best ubinstaller ive seen
[08:08] <cutiyar> dnirva,yes but i wanted it by upgrading not downloading it by iso and burn it
[08:08] <UBuxuBU> then reinstall wubi or ill help u do a real dual booter
[08:08] <cutiyar> dnirva, ok thank i will download the lLTS 10.04
[08:09] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, yes somtimes wubi just fails
[08:09] <cutiyar> dnivra: ok thank i will download the lLTS 10.04
[08:09] <chalcedony>  i have a problem with installing ubuntu to usb. it says it's unable to mount
[08:09] <rww> cutiyar: There is no supported way to upgrade directly from 9.04 to 10.04. You need to go through 9.10.
[08:09] <cutiyar> rww, ok thanks
[08:10] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, i like wubi, i am using it now but i had to renstall it a couple times
[08:10] <dnivra> cutiyar, you can backup your packages and restore them if you like. i'll get you the link hold on.
[08:10] <dnivra> cutiyar, hope this helps http://www.ubuntugeek.com/backup-installed-packages-on-ubuntu.html.
[08:10] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, but it say downloading fail: gfxboot-them-ubuntu
[08:10] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, my real dual booters are better
[08:11] <cutiyar> dnivra, thnaks but its new install to 9.10
[08:11] <dnivra> cutiyar, oh fresh install eh? okay then :).
[08:11] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, try to fix it if u like but wubi uninstalls 1oo% in 2 seconds
[08:11] <cutiyar> dnivra,yes
[08:11] <UBuxuBU> and reinstalls fast
[08:13] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, how to uninstall it?
[08:13] <Evgeniy27> åñòü òå êòî ïî ðóññêè ãîâîðèò?
[08:13] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, windows add remove
[08:14] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, You mean uninstall vista?
[08:14] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, wubi is just a file in windows in your programs add remove section or it may be called uninstall install in vista
[08:15] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, yes the uninstall section of vidta
[08:15] <UBuxuBU> vista
[08:15] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, i had to redo my wubi a few times in 6 mos
[08:15] <ox3a> UBuxuBU,then i need to restart my pc
[08:15] <UBuxuBU> yes
[08:16] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, it is a great uninstaller gts it all out
[08:16] <UBuxuBU> back up all files
[08:17] <UBuxuBU> but u just installed it so u prolly have none
[08:17] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, i will get it as wubi.exe in add remove program?
[08:17] <UBuxuBU> ill look in mine ox3a
[08:17] <landingonwater> nit-wit, great instruction in the forum. i will find my old laptop and move on with the surgery. AND there is a fix for future problems wubi. but guess i will never use wubi again.
[08:18] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, IN W7 uninstall it shows the ubuntu emblem and says ubuntu
[08:18] <fluid217> Happy new year everyone
[08:19] <landingonwater> nit-wit, ubuntu site doesnt warn against Wubi. Apparently Wubi is only for testspin, and not for usage
[08:19] <fluid217> I'm using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS and have 2x wpasuplicants starting
[08:19] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, If windwos is problem then i can remove it
[08:19] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, only use the uninstall part in vista
[08:19] <nit-wit> landingonwater, it has its moments, yeah it is for trying out really.
[08:20] <fluid217> any ideas where the '/sbin/wpa_supplicant -s -B -P /var/run/wpa_supplicant' is being launched from ?
[08:20] <dnivra> landingonwater, i would suggest using a VM for a test spin though.
[08:20] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, dont go lookin for exe's
[08:20] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, somtimes vista and wubi clash
[08:20] <nit-wit> dnivra, I had LinuxMint in Vbox it ran quite well
[08:20] <nit-wit> dnivra, mint 10
[08:21] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, let me check it. But what if i do not install it again?
[08:21] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, thats ok too
[08:21] <dnivra> nit-wit, i run windows on vbox :). it's easier to test using VM's totally.
[08:21] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, ok
[08:21] <Rena-> anyone? can't log in, GDM stuck in endless loop, getting pretty annoying.
[08:22] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, if u want a real dual booter i have done about 30 of them
[08:22] <landingonwater> dnivra, well.. it was a testspin actually, and then i sort of just moved to Ubuntu :D
[08:22] <Rena-> can start x manually as root in VT but not through GDM. soon as I log in it goes blank and back to login screen.
[08:22] <dnivra> Rena-, press ctrl + alt + f1, login and run the command 'sudo service gdm stop'. then run 'sudo service gdm start'. hope this works.
[08:22] <Rena-> dnivra: done that numerous times now
[08:22] <dnivra> landingonwater, you could have just used live cd to test right?
[08:23] <dnivra> Rena-, i'm not quite sure how to help. maybe somebody else can. meanwhile check /var/log/messages to see if something is going wrong.
[08:23] <okapi> my synaptic seems to be broken, I can not update my system anymore. Anyone can help?
[08:24] <dnivra> okapi, what happens when you try to open synaptic?
[08:24] <UBuxuBU> ox3a the windows/ubuntu dual boot using side by side is better than wubi and extremely easy and the advanced is even better but more work
[08:25] <MSaki> wow
[08:25] <TULeGiT> hmm
[08:25] <TULeGiT> ok wait
[08:25] <MSaki> dont
[08:25] <landingonwater> dnivra, haha.. true.. you are right, but live cds are so slow, and i wanted to play with lightzone and some ruby, but i hate vista with all my heart, and i got into the nasty habit of playing urban terror as well :D
[08:25] <TULeGiT> y
[08:26] <okapi> dnivra: I am trying to update the system but nothing happening. Also the software update shows out of date for more than 40 days.
[08:26] <TULeGiT> wtf
[08:26] <dnivra> landingonwater, oh yeah they're very slow. that's why i boot iso's via grub2 to test or use VirtualBox.
[08:26] <dnivra> okapi, how are you trying to update the system?
[08:26] <MSaki> heh ubuntu freezes on older computers after hd instal why is that
[08:27] <dnivra> Rena-, gdm also creates logs in /var/log/gdm. check them out too.
[08:27] <dnivra> Rena-, maybe check only them ^^.
[08:27]  * skraito say hi all
[08:27] <Rena-> checked those, nothing unusual there
[08:27] <UBuxuBU> msaki its a kernal issue
[08:27] <okapi> dnivra: 2 ways: with the synaptic by reloading and marking all update and by using apt-get command
[08:28] <MSaki> wow
[08:28] <Rena-> the one thing I do see is in .xsession-errors: fatal IO error 2 (No such file or directory) on X server ":0.0"
[08:28] <UBuxuBU> ram leak
[08:28] <UBuxuBU> wb ox3a
[08:28] <avis> :/
[08:28] <MSaki> it gets to login and keeps bumping me back out of ubuntu desktop
[08:28] <dnivra> okapi, when you use apt-get command what happens?
[08:28] <MSaki> no answer? switchen to fedora
[08:28] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, do you want a realdualbooter
[08:29] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, i don't see any installed program in add remove
[08:29] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, i do not need it. Just i use it for wimax internet
[08:29] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, did u uninstall it
[08:29] <dnivra> okapi, are you able to download the package lists using 'sudo apt-get update' successfully?
[08:30] <okapi> dnivra: apt-get clean && apt-get update the system is reloading the repositories with few errors about pgp keys. Then apt-get upgrade nothing happening. No update found
[08:30] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, i do not see any program in win add remove
[08:30] <Rena-> oh, hey. someone chown'd my .ICEauthority. now it looks like it's working.
[08:30] <Rena-> wonder why that didn't show up before...
[08:30] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, its in vista uninstall
[08:30] <UBuxuBU> if u had wubi
[08:30] <Rena-> time to reboot and see what happens then
[08:30] <okapi> dnivra: I am using sudo -s before I start
[08:31] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, were u running the live cd or did u do a wubi install
[08:31] <dnivra> okapi, that's the issue probably. it fails to download a few package lists, uses the old package lists and so no updates but the package lists are indeed old.
[08:31] <dnivra> okapi, try a different mirror. might work.
[08:31] <avis> :)
[08:31] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, no direct dual boot
[08:32] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, u said wubi before
[08:32] <fluid217> hi everyone. On Ubuntu 10.04LTS (upgraded from previous versions) and I'm getting 2x wpasuplicant's launched on boot.
[08:32] <UBuxuBU> then its not in add remove oruninstall
[08:32] <fluid217> I'd like to find what's starting this one: '/sbin/wpa_supplicant -s -B -P /var/run/wpa_supplicant'
[08:33] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, sorry misunderstanding. So?
[08:33] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, if u wish to remove it u jist delete the partition if u backed up files
[08:34] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, do u have all files backed up and vista restore disks
[08:35] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, I can delete it no problem . Just i need to solve it in order to making costomize ubuntu
[08:35] <bruenig> suppose I resize my root partition (I have no separate /boot) by shrinking it from the front, will that fuck up efforts to boot from it?
[08:36] <UBuxuBU> it would be easier to delete the ubuntu prtition and reinstall it if u have ni important files in it
[08:36] <UBuxuBU> no*
[08:36] <bruenig> don't want to reinstall
[08:37] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, is this an fresh install or something you had for awhile
[08:38] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, Actually which i need to delete . windows ?
[08:38] <milligan> Morning. Anyone here experienced with wifi networks? I'm having some problems at home .. I'm getting packet loss to the router, and it's working quite unstable in general. I have a D-Link DIR-615. There are about 15 wifi networks in the area, so I'm suspecting interference, but forcing the channel to the most lone one (1) didn't make any noticable difference. Any suggestions ?
[08:38] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, what is your main os
[08:38] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, Ubuntu
[08:38] <UBuxuBU> oh now i get it ox3a
[08:38] <UBuxuBU> u installed vista 2nd
[08:38] <ox3a> yeah
[08:39] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, yeah
[08:39] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, its best to do vista 1st
[08:39] <UBuxuBU> then buntu
[08:39] <UBuxuBU> u prolly needto reinstall grub now
[08:40] <milligan> ..which is very easy if ubuntu is intact ..
[08:40] <UBuxuBU> but i have not done it tat way
[08:40] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, I also installed wine of ubuntu
[08:40] <UBuxuBU> try installing grub
[08:40] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, How?
[08:41] <UBuxuBU> have you backed up all your filees ox3a
[08:41] <UBuxuBU> files
[08:41] <milligan> ox3a, insert your ubuntu cd and boot from it. You can chose to do a repair in the menus. In the repair menu, chose to reinstall grub.
[08:42] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, that is mean installing ubuntu again?
[08:42] <UBuxuBU> listen to milligan
[08:42] <UBuxuBU> look up a few lines
[08:43] <UBuxuBU> just install grub , boot ubuntu cd , use repair option
[08:43] <UBuxuBU> install grun ox3a
[08:43] <UBuxuBU> grub
[08:44] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, no..reinstalling grub is not reinstalling the entire ubuntu os
[08:44] <nit-wit> milligan what repair menu
[08:45] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, ok. But you think uck problem will be solve then?
[08:45] <magn3ts> I can't login to my Google Account. My username is magn3ticpersonality (or<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and my password is st3ngam67UiX1! This has only happen since upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10.
[08:45] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, i think so
[08:45] <milligan> nit-wit, booting the cd there's a menu called repair, if iirc
[08:45] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, did u back up all files
[08:45] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, OK... can you tell me how to reinstall grub?
[08:46] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, From CD?
[08:46] <gobbe> magn3ts: login with browser or what?
[08:46] <UBuxuBU> i havent done that but milligan told u....boot cd, use repair, install grub
[08:46] <magn3ts> gobbe, yes
[08:46] <gobbe> magn3ts: contact google, logging to webservice has nothing to do with your operating system
[08:46] <nit-wit> milligan, I do this every day and I have never heard of reloading grub this way, to the mbr?
[08:46] <magn3ts> gobbe, it worked fine in windows
[08:47] <gobbe> magn3ts: what kind of error message do you get?
[08:47] <UBuxuBU> he installed vista 2nd
[08:47] <milligan> nit-wit, huh? You do what every day? I believe the CD has an option to reinstall grub. If not, you can drop to a console and repair it.
[08:47] <avis> rescue mode
[08:47] <milligan> nit-wit, and if you know the correct procedure, you should tell him how to do it, instead of arguing with me :)
[08:47] <avis> reapir grub
[08:48] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, OK
[08:48] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, sit tight for a moment
[08:48] <nit-wit> milligan, it is quite simple, you just boot the live cd and two commands in the terminal
[08:48] <ox3a> UBuxuBU, Going to do it right now
[08:48] <rww> magn3ts: Go ask Google about it. It has nothing to do with Ubuntu.
[08:49] <UBuxuBU> ox3a, well u will not say if u backed up files so...
[08:49] <nit-wit> milligan, I'm not argueing  was just trying to get the correct information posted
[08:49] <magn3ts> >:(
[08:50] <milligan> nit-wit, no probs :) As I stated earlier, I don't remember the exact details. Memorizing the ubuntu boot cd options hasn't been my main priority ;)
[08:50] <nit-wit> milligan, they will be back if they don't get it.:)
[08:51] <rallias> What package do I need to install to give my web server wpa compatibility?
[08:51] <deepsix> How can I tell if my CPU is 64 bit?
[08:52] <rallias> deepsix: whats the model?
[08:52] <UBuxuBU> look in bios
[08:52] <magn3ts> deepsix, in a terminal: uname -a
[08:52] <rww> uname -a just says whether your kernel is 64-bit, not the machine.
[08:52] <deepsix> Model is Intel celeron series
[08:52] <UBuxuBU> 32bit
[08:52] <rallias> deepsix: when did you get it.
[08:52] <rww> deepsix: some Celerons are 32-bit, some are 64-bit. Do you have the model number?
[08:53] <deepsix> shit dude this thing was running XP
[08:53] <UBuxuBU> 32bit
[08:53] <theholder> Hi
[08:53] <deepsix> um, I got the clock speed where is the model number?
[08:53] <rallias> deepsix: What year did you buy it in?
[08:53] <deepsix> I didn't
[08:53] <deepsix> I adopted it from my gramps
[08:53] <theholder> deepsix
[08:53] <rallias> what year was it built?
[08:53] <rww> deepsix: are you running a Linux on it right now, or Windows?
[08:54] <deepsix> I adopted it ha
[08:54] <theholder> good question rww
[08:54] <deepsix> idk
[08:54] <theholder> =O
[08:54] <deepsix> Ubuntu Lucid
[08:54] <rallias> deepsix: Just to be safe, run 32 bit.
[08:54] <rww> deepsix: run 'cat /proc/cpuinfo', get the model name
[08:54] <UBuxuBU> or look in bios
[08:54] <deepsix> yeah, I am on a i686
[08:54] <theholder> lolol
[08:54] <UBuxuBU> but its a 32 bitter
[08:54] <theholder> can anyone help
[08:55] <UBuxuBU> shoot theholder
[08:55] <theholder> Ubuntu 10.10 on an asus eee pc 701sd wifi when its turned off it locks up
[08:55] <deepsix> processor	: 0
[08:55] <deepsix> vendor_id	: GenuineIntel
[08:55] <deepsix> cpu family	: 15
[08:55] <deepsix> model		: 2
[08:55] <deepsix> model name	: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.60GHz
[08:55] <FloodBot4> deepsix: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:55] <deepsix> stepping	: 9
[08:55] <theholder> the whole netbook
[08:55] <theholder> idoru :D
[08:55] <theholder> nice to see you
[08:56] <theholder> any idea UBuxuBU
[08:56] <laptop> pakielaewa
[08:56] <theholder> :O
[08:57] <UBuxuBU> i ned more information
[08:57] <deepsix> http://paste.ubuntu.com/549228/ heres the output
[08:57] <UBuxuBU> need
[08:57] <UBuxuBU> Deepsix the answer is inbios but its 32
[08:57] <deepsix> SOAB
[08:57] <deepsix> ok cool thanks
[08:58] <deepsix> I am going to go sob in my miserable corner
[08:58] <UBuxuBU> why
[08:58] <deepsix> ...with a 32bit cpu
[08:58] <UBuxuBU> nice lil unit
[08:58] <theholder> it is
[08:58] <theholder> UBuxuBU
[08:58]  * UBuxuBU waves to six..
[08:58] <UBuxuBU> yes theholder
[08:58] <theholder> what did need?
[08:59] <UBuxuBU> i am thinking
[08:59] <theholder> oh sorry =/
[08:59] <UBuxuBU> need more info
[08:59] <UBuxuBU> tell us more
[08:59] <theholder> well i can turn the wireless on and it functions fine
[08:59] <Rad-> Hey what's the name of the new X11 utlity thing that Ubuntu was thinking of using again?
[08:59] <Rad-> (forgot what category X11 falls into sorry)
[08:59] <rww> Rad-: Wayland?
[08:59] <Rad-> Thanks mate
[09:00] <theholder> its when i goto disable it the whole os and netbook freezes
[09:00] <Rad-> Display servers?
[09:00] <UBuxuBU> ur pullin my leg
[09:00] <rww> Rad-: yes
[09:00] <Rad-> thanks
[09:00] <theholder> ?
[09:00] <fictionboy> ...
[09:01] <UBuxuBU> theholder why do u disable it
[09:01] <theholder> because i dont need to use wifi all the time
[09:01] <fictionboy> hahaha
[09:01] <theholder> it has a fn key function
[09:01] <UBuxuBU> hmmm
[09:01] <UBuxuBU> u disable it and run the pc offline
[09:01] <fictionboy> ,.,
[09:01] <UBuxuBU> and it all freezes
[09:02] <Re1ndeer> Does anyone know why I am getting the message, "SYSLINUX 4.02 2010-07-21 EDD Copyright (C) 1994-2010 H. Peter Anvin et al" on a black screen?
[09:02] <r00t4rd3d> Re1ndeer, wait ....
[09:02] <r00t4rd3d> sometimes it takes a minute
[09:03] <theholder> yes
[09:03] <Re1ndeer> ok, that is what i thought it was.
[09:03] <r00t4rd3d> Re1ndeer, do you have a usb keyboard ?
[09:03] <fictionboy> 测试
[09:03] <Re1ndeer> I just wanted to know I wasn't going to be sitting for a hour for nothing.
[09:03] <r00t4rd3d> it should not be an hour
[09:03] <r00t4rd3d> like 1 minute
[09:04] <Re1ndeer> rOOt4rd3d: no
[09:04] <Myrtti> fictionboy: did you have a ubuntu question?
[09:04] <fictionboy> 很多阿
[09:04] <Re1ndeer> I don't have an USB Keyboard.
[09:04] <fictionboy> much more
[09:04] <r00t4rd3d> ok
[09:05] <fictionboy> 我是新手。。。
[09:05] <r00t4rd3d> how long did you let it sit ?
[09:05] <Myrtti> !english | fictionboy
[09:05] <fictionboy> ok thx
[09:05] <Rad-> fictionboy's a newbie?
[09:05] <Rad-> =P
[09:06] <Re1ndeer> r00t4rd3d, I just started it, I just wanted to make sure I didn't mess it up. :P
[09:06] <Rad-> I'm surprised irssi let's me see unicode. xchat sure as hell doesn't
[09:06] <r00t4rd3d> fictionboy is in china
[09:07] <fictionboy> newbie
[09:07]  * Rad- understands chinese lol
[09:07] <fictionboy> yes
[09:07] <r00t4rd3d> #ubuntu-cn ?
[09:07] <Rad-> Although I am having trouble getting something to...type chinese on linux.
[09:07] <fictionboy> yes ylmf ubuntu
[09:07] <Rad-> It's why I still stick with windows a lot of the time.
[09:08] <Rad-> I'm sorta running xmonad..so I don't exactly have a tray (nor particularily want one)
[09:08] <fictionboy> how to sync backup my web and mysql date?
[09:08] <fictionboy> data ..
[09:09] <fmoo> I really, really want  meta (instead of alt) to send ^[ to my terminal, without swapping alt and meta entirely (I prefer the existing bindings for alt and meta in metacity).  Does anyone have any idea how to do this?
[09:09] <theholder> UBuxuBU any ideas then?
[09:09] <MrDudle> say i went to download a copy of ubuntu 10.10 and it directed me to an attack site
[09:10] <theholder> :O
[09:10] <MrDudle> linuxfreedom was the mirror
[09:10] <MrDudle> firefox has not failed me yet
[09:11] <kingbdogz> Hello.
[09:11] <r00t4rd3d> why goto a 3rd party site to start with ?
[09:13] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
[09:13] <kingbdogz> Hey guys I have a problem. I'm trying to install Starcraft 2 - Wings of Liberty on my Ubuntu 10.10. I've ran into a problem while running the Installer.exe with Wine. I have Version 1.3 on Wine.
[09:13] <MrDudle> r00t4rd3d: i didn't
[09:13] <MrDudle> i clicked the little download button on ubuntu.com
[09:14] <MrDudle> redirected me to linuxfreedom.com which is an attack site
[09:14] <theholder> what does it say kingbdogz
[09:14] <kingbdogz> The problem is that it says it has "too many files open", so I checked up on google to see what was wrong. People suggested to increase ulimit (which I did, via ulimit -n 10000) but that did not solve the problem.
[09:15] <theholder> i normally use PlayonLinux
[09:15] <theholder> never had any issues
[09:15] <kingbdogz> What is it?
[09:15] <r00t4rd3d> kingbdogz, http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=20882
[09:16] <kingbdogz> r00t4rd3d I am aware of that, and I have followed the directions.
[09:16] <r00t4rd3d> hmm
[09:16] <r00t4rd3d> try PlayOnLinux
[09:16] <r00t4rd3d> its an app
[09:16] <kingbdogz> Yes, I have copied the files onto my hardrive and then ran them through wine. Still no luck.
[09:17] <r00t4rd3d> You can get PlayOnLinux threw the synaptic package manager
[09:17] <UBuxuBU> got disconnected, where were we...
[09:17] <kingbdogz> Okay I'll check that out. Thanks for the help, I'll come back if I have any problems.
[09:17] <landingonwater> nit-wit: im back. fixed the problem with the info from the ubuntu forum. edited grub.cfg
[09:17] <r00t4rd3d> or here http://www.playonlinux.com/script_files/PlayOnLinux/3.8.8/PlayOnLinux_3.8.8.deb
[09:18] <lahwran> kingbdogz: attnetion please
[09:18] <landingonwater> nit-wit: will try their fix as well.. hopefully that will prevent further accidents.
[09:18] <nio707> hello all
[09:18] <nit-wit> landingonwater, cool I looked at that and just shook may head and said better  you then me.:)
[09:19] <billy> i cant get a dvd to play can anybody help
[09:19] <landingonwater> nit-wit: i used peppermint konsule to mount and then edit. hahaha.. yeah.. what a ride. wubi is not a good idea.
[09:19] <nit-wit> landingonwater, do you want the wubi to a partition link for a bookmark
[09:20] <fmoo> wow, I did a google search for: 'PlayOnLinux PPM'  and the top 10 results are for sulfide testing kits
[09:20] <UBuxuBU> billy what version of buntu
[09:21] <billy> 10.04 i think
[09:21] <landingonwater> nit-wit: what do you think is the best solution ?
[09:21] <landingonwater> nit-wit: what do you mean by bookmark ?
[09:22] <UBuxuBU> Install the libdvdread4 package bily
[09:22] <nit-wit> landingonwater, I would dual boot it but it is good to look at the HD setup first. I don't know what you have in it now
[09:22] <Shoggoth> everytime I go to the "Places" menu and try to browse a folder or a filesystem from the gnome desktop for some reason it opens vlc rather than a file browser
[09:22] <Shoggoth> any idea what would cause this?
[09:22] <billy> through the terminal?
[09:23] <UBuxuBU>  sudo apt-get install libdvdread4
[09:23] <UBuxuBU>     * Then open a terminal window and execute:
[09:23] <UBuxuBU>  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[09:23] <nit-wit> landingonwater, here is a link for you to bookmark save of how to move that wubi to a partition as well if your brave. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1519354
[09:23] <nio707> where i can find good books on directfb development
[09:23] <carson> Desbian Vs Ubuntu, i cant get Ubuntu on my desktop <I have it on this laptop>, but is desbian a good alternative? whats the difference from ubuntu and desbian?
[09:24] <landingonwater> nit-wit: well.. there is the wubi partition on sd1
[09:24] <Shoggoth> anyone?
[09:24] <nit-wit> landingonwater, do you have a raid setup
[09:24] <UBuxuBU> corruption
[09:24] <carson> *debian
[09:24] <billy> billy@billy-DIM4500:~$ sudo apt-get install sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh Reading package lists... Done
[09:24] <billy>  Building dependency tree
[09:24] <billy> Reading state information... Done
[09:24] <billy> E: Unable to locate package /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4
[09:25] <FloodBot4> billy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:25] <UBuxuBU> try synaptic billy
[09:25] <UBuxuBU> update 1st
[09:26] <nio707> can any one please suggest me good book on directfb
[09:26] <UBuxuBU> billy i need to know if its really 1004 lucid
[09:26] <landingonwater> nit-wit: no raid. only one HD. its a laptop. haha.. i just look at your link. looks great.. not so great if anything goes wrong :D
[09:27] <Shoggoth> can anyone help?
[09:27] <billy> yeah it is i rememebered i downloaded a new copy and rebooted last week
[09:27] <landingonwater> nit-wit: what Ubuntu should offer is some migration software that could handle this problem.
[09:28] <UBuxuBU> i am goin to boot into lucid now billy
[09:28] <Shoggoth> please help!
[09:28] <landingonwater> nit-wit: at least i found you guys here on IRC, but a total noob would be lost completely
[09:29] <billy> thankyou
[09:30] <nit-wit> landingonwater, yeah it would be nice to see more work done with wubi so it is better
[09:31] <landingonwater> nit-wit: so... I should write the Ubuntu dev team so they can at least give better warning on the Ubuntu website maybe ? because I thought It was okay to run with the Wubi install
[09:31] <nit-wit> landingonwater, you know about partition limitation s in amounts and types
[09:32] <landingonwater> nit-wit: been awhile since i played with that. so i guess i dont. but for moving to a new partition i would need alot of free space i guess.
[09:33] <carson> Does anyone know of any good video/audio software for linux? not like itunes, but like adobe premiere elements and cooleditpro <adobe auditions>, some mixing tool of somesoft?
[09:33] <r00t4rd3d>  /set irc_conf_mode on
[09:33] <landingonwater> nit-wit: is it correct to assume that my current install depends on a healthy vista partition ?
[09:33] <nit-wit> landingonwater, you can have 4 primary partitions maximum, but you can have 3 primaries and then a extended which can have a unlimited logical type. Ubuntu installs to a logical and boots fine
[09:34]  * UBUxUBU sharpenshis cletes...
[09:34] <UBUxUBU> where were we
[09:35] <landingonwater> nit-wit: aah.. i see... so i better check twice before attemting anything. uuh... too much action for 1st of jan
[09:35] <Flannel> landingonwater: Your wubi install depends on a healthy NTFS partition, not the actually Windows install on that partition (except the boot loader stuff)
[09:35] <nio707> carson you can install vlc or mplayer
[09:35] <nio707> i use them and i like them
[09:35] <billy> hello
[09:35] <nerxgas> whats the advantage of 64-bit ubuntu over 32-bit?
[09:35] <landingonwater> nit-wit: so at least moving the bootloader is a good idea.
[09:36] <carson> okay il check them out, can they be profetional and really good, or are they like windows movie maker quality programs?
[09:36] <landingonwater> carson: i didnt follow that one.. what are you looking for ?
[09:36] <nerxgas> nevermind
[09:36] <nio707> carson if you want convertor or mixing software ?
[09:37] <nit-wit> landingonwater, with a partitioned install the grub bootloader would be installed and grub to Ubuntu. In wubi it isn't running grub or using it as a bootloader exactly, it is sort of a illusion
[09:37] <carson> nio707 Mixing, editing software
[09:37] <Flannel> carson: There's some stripped down versions, and some cadillacs as well
[09:37] <r00t4rd3d> carson, ReZound and Audacity
[09:37] <Flannel> carson: If you want simple you can get it, if you want whistles and bells, there's other programs that do that too.
[09:37] <nio707> for small conversion mplayer has mencoder which is perfect utility but it is a command line
[09:37] <nio707> utility
[09:37] <carson> landingonwater like how windows has windows movie maker (Adobe Premiere Elements is better but same idea), some editing/mixing softwares for audio and/or video
[09:38] <ox3a> I also tested UCk but still problem
[09:38] <jdoe123123> Where does Nautilus store the metafiles for folder views?
[09:38] <nit-wit> landingonwater, the dila partitined install would have grub in the mbr, and the grub menu for Ubuntu amd Windows
[09:38] <UBUxUBU> billy To install extra codecs, press Applications → Add/Remove..., type “codec” in the Search box and select which codecs you want to install. Press Apply to install the selected codecs.
[09:38] <nit-wit> *dual
[09:38] <r00t4rd3d> carson wine will also run cooledit pro
[09:39] <carson> Flannel well Im looking for a replacement for my Windows softwares, by whistles and bells do you mean lots of effects/filters/really good, or as in looks pretty
[09:39] <jdoe123123> Anyone know how to set the folder view global in nautilus?
[09:39] <carson> r00t4rd3d i tried cooleditpro threw wine and it crashs on startup
[09:39] <jdoe123123> I can only do it on a per folder bases
[09:39] <Teemu_K> is there a way to mount that ntfs drive which I used for wubi install
[09:39] <billy> i was just looking there it says i need ffmpeg codec library
[09:39] <Flannel> carson: The former
[09:39] <nio707> carson i never used vidio mixing software but you can use avidemux
[09:40] <Teemu_K> currently mount -t ntfs /dev/sda3 /mount/place doesn't work
[09:40] <carson> Flannel okay il check it out, is that for audio or video?
[09:40] <carson> nio707 avidemux, il check it out, thanks
[09:40] <landingonwater> nit-wit: hmm.... so there is no way around it unless i migrate it complete. would almost think a clean install would be an easier solution.
[09:40] <UBUxUBU> i never had to mount anything using wubi it does the loop for u
[09:40] <r00t4rd3d> carson, they say it should work ....http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=19
[09:41] <nio707> carson also you can install kdenlive it is  very powerful software if yu want professional software
[09:41] <nit-wit> landingonwater, I would go clean install if it was me
[09:41] <Flannel> carson: the spectrum is available for both.  I didn't name any programs though, so you might be thinking of someone else recommending something.
[09:41] <billy> sorry removed dont worry i havnt slept from last night thanks for the help
[09:41] <carson> root4rd3d il check out ReZound, ive already used audacity on windows, and personaly id rather stick to other softwares but i could use that as a last resort
[09:41] <carson> nio707 kdenlive, okay il check this out, gotta write down all these softwares :P
[09:42] <carson> Flannel u said The former, i thought that was a program :P
[09:42] <ox3a> back
[09:42] <landingonwater> nit-wit: i think you are right. even though it might be possible to dig out of it. a clean install. and then ask Ubuntu to put a big warning sign on their website. Wubi is for trial only
[09:42] <ouyes> I have some data stored in my hard drive , that is very important to me, I do not want others to copy these data, is there a way to protect these data that anything copied from my hard drive would become trashes, no just encryption?
[09:42] <nit-wit> landingonwater, I have W7, and in a extended Maverick, linuxmint10, and Natty the release
[09:42] <Teemu_K> UBUxUBU: Well I'd like to use my stuff that is inside storage. and my ubuntu is installed there. ubuntu mounts it as blkdev. and I cannot use example game executables
[09:42] <jdoe123123> Anyone know how to set a folder view global in Nautilus?
[09:42] <nio707> carson for your reference there is a linux distribution which have all video editing mixing and dj software in it actually i forgot the name but it is ment for this purpose only
[09:42] <ouyes> of course I am running gnome 10.04
[09:42] <ox3a> UBUxUBU, still the error
[09:42] <Re1ndeer> is waiting 30 min for the OS to boot too long?
[09:43] <nit-wit> Re1ndeer, yeah
[09:44] <landingonwater> nit-wit: well.. im sick of the vista anyways. so maybe i will wait some time and simply clean the whole machine. im a photographer, so i need win for most editing. DxO, Lightroom and photoshop. Only programs I cant replace.
[09:44] <carson> nio707 really? well  if you think of it please tell :P im gonna go look up these softwares thanks everyone!
[09:44] <Re1ndeer> so what do I do?
[09:44] <cctx05> Hey everyone
[09:44] <_6502_> hello... how do I shut down that F**KING DUMB self proclaimed "smart" tab completion ?
[09:44] <carson> Thanks everyone for the softwares, im gonna check em all out :)
[09:44] <landingonwater> carson: bulgarian friend of mine is an editor
[09:44] <cctx05> I'm brand new to Linux...I'm LOVING Ubuntu so far....I'm sad I took this long to jump on board
[09:44] <Flannel> _6502_: Please mind your language.  Which tab completion?  What software?
[09:45] <nit-wit> landingonwater, you can do a W7 upgrade that is a little cheaper then a full price retail.  only have W7 because of a student discount, I'm a 99% open source user
[09:45] <landingonwater> carson: he tried out the linux stuff, and he says its not worth the while. so I guess you should go for a dual boot and whatever is your flavor.
[09:46] <landingonwater> nit-wit: a win7 upgrade ? hmm.. i have a legal vista. so that would be great.
[09:46] <ox3a> UBUxUBU,
[09:47] <UBUxUBU> billy You have to make sure you have enabled universe,multiverse repositoriesNow you need to run the following command to update the source list   sudo apt-get updateInstall mplayer using the following command   sudo apt-get install mplayer
[09:47] <nit-wit> landingonwater, I think you can still get upgrades from MS, not sure though. W7 isn't a bad set up,  just don't really need it, but 25$ well spent got the pro version retails at 200$
[09:47] <carson> landingonwater yah i have some good software for Windows, but it isnt compatible with Windows 7 <I miss XP soo much, hate 7> and i just wanna see if i can stick to linux instead of having to use the stupid windows 7 and do everything the hard way *IE Record everything in 7, then share files with XP in virtualbox <Cant record there because its not compatible with my mic> and mix it in virtualbox.*, I just wanna see if i can stick to j
[09:47] <carson> ust Linux or if i halfto do it on windows :P
[09:47] <UBUxUBU> sup ox3a
[09:47] <_6502_> flannel: ok... you know that self proclaimed smart feature so that when you press tab it only shows you what it thinks are reasonable completion instead of just completing using globbing ? ok... i want to kill, erase, drop, trash, annihilate, destroy that nice piece of software and I just want a bare tab completion... how can I do that ?
[09:48] <ox3a> UBUxUBU, still the error
[09:48] <Flannel> _6502_: In what software? firefox? a terminal? some other program?
[09:48] <_6502_> flannel: bash, sorry.... i thought it was obvious but probably it isn't indeed
[09:48] <UBUxUBU> what are you trying to accomplish ox3a
[09:48] <potat0> almost all terminals have tab completion
[09:49] <ox3a> UBUxUBU, UCK
[09:49] <UBUxUBU> tellme
[09:49] <landingonwater> nit-wit: win7 can be installed from hardrive as update. bit of a nightmare though. but since i dont want this wupi setup anyway, i might just wipe the whole disk.
[09:49] <ox3a> UBUxUBU, ?
[09:49] <Flannel> _6502_: To be honest, I'm not sure what smart tab completion you're talking about.  Is it substituting for what you've already typed somehow? or can you give an example?  my bash tab completion always does what I think your target behavior is
[09:50] <UBUxUBU> what is it that u truly seek ox3a i can easily do a real dual booter
[09:50] <UBUxUBU> i am not well heeled on the vista 1st thing u did
[09:50] <nit-wit> landingonwater, you can do a fresh install with the upgrade, I gotta crash now, glad your all et for now.:)
[09:51] <landingonwater> carson: win7 is not that bad. i have no problems with video editing. i use Vegas. but have vista on my new laptop. and Vista sucks bigtime.
[09:51] <ox3a> UBUxUBU, You mean which i have installed first vista or ubuntu ?
[09:51] <_6502_> flannel: i want to be able to say go to a directory where there is a file named foo.bar, type "gunzip foo<tab>" and getting it completed to "gunzip foo.bar" even if bar is not the filename extension that gunzip normally would expect
[09:51] <landingonwater> nit-wit: thanks alot for your help :)
[09:51] <UBUxUBU> ox3a, u said u had ubu 1st vista 2nd
[09:51] <UBUxUBU> i can do it the other way easy
[09:52] <ox3a> UBUxUBU, It was also misunderstanding
[09:52] <ox3a> UBUxUBU, I installed Vista first and then Ubuntu
[09:52] <UBUxUBU> shheez u change a lot
[09:53] <carson> landingonwater well videoediting is fine for me, id rather stick to one system but video editing isnt the problem, its audio thats my problem. I used CoolEditPro wich is an older software, not completly compatible with Windows 7, so i record audio in Windows 7, then bring it to XP to mix <I cant record in XP because VirtualBox crashs when i use my mic> and mix it in XP, so im trying to find a way to stick to one software
[09:53] <_6502_> flannel: ok... found it
[09:53] <UBUxUBU> well i can do a clean dually no sweat
[09:53] <jpapertowels> hey guys i'm considering switching my gaming desktop to ubuntu with wine being so improved since i last tried, but i'm worried about audio quality... is there a way i can get virtual 7.1 surround like i can with the THX option on windows with my SoundBlaster X-Fi MB2?
[09:53] <_6502_> flannel: i've had to remove something from .bashrc
[09:53] <UBUxUBU> if u back up all files
[09:54] <UBUxUBU> ox3a, does vista boot properly
[09:54] <ox3a> UBUxUBU, yeah
[09:55] <UBUxUBU> ok ox3a DO U HAVE impoertant files in the ubuntu installation
[09:55] <cctx05> I have a question..is it tough to upgrade to a new version of Ubuntu (or another distro)? I'm used to only upgrading an OS every few years with Windows...so I'm a little nervous about losing files
[09:56] <ox3a> UBUxUBU, Just downloaded some package for future installation(from Synaptic)
[09:56] <jpapertowels> so im guessing theres nothing for linux like the THX crystallizer that i can use with my sound card? its like the only thing keeping me from switching lol
[09:56] <ox3a> UBUxUBU, As my internet too slow
[09:57] <UBUxUBU> ox3a, ok, well, if vista in your 1st OS and its all good, and the ubuntu u tired to dual is not good, delete the ubuntu partition as long as there is no important files on it and as long as the other ppl here cant help u reinstall grub.
[09:57] <pa> happy new year
[09:58] <UBUxUBU> then we can do  GOOD DUAL BOOTER
[09:58] <UBUxUBU> ooops caps
[09:58] <_Synergy_> Anyone know what I need for ubuntu to recognize my hardware RAID 0 (ntfs) array? I'd like to be able to mount it after I boot into ubuntu.
[09:58] <pa> how do i install nvidia restricted module also on a custom compiled kernel?
[09:58] <pa> (i can enter X by changing back to nv driver)
[09:58] <ox3a> UBUxUBU, But is the dual boot issue with UCK ubuntu coustomize tool?
[09:59] <UBUxUBU> ox3a, i dont know
[09:59] <UBUxUBU> i think its a mount issue or grun i really dont know
[09:59] <UBUxUBU> grub
[10:00] <Gimbli> pa: I think that nvidia provides a binary package which will create the necessary driver while being executed
[10:00] <ox3a> UBUxUBU, Just i need UCK to work to customize Ubuntu properly
[10:00] <UBUxUBU> if u have just done the ubuntu install and have no fiwhat the UCK is UCK
[10:00] <UBUxUBU> ooops typo
[10:01] <UBUxUBU> i meant what the UCK is UCK
[10:01] <Gimbli> pa: that's how it worked while i was using Debian in the past on my desktop machines
[10:01] <UBUxUBU> if u cant even boot to the ubuntu partition who cares about customizing at this point..u need a good dual os 1st
[10:02] <UBUxUBU> u can try to use the repair options mentioned earlier or we can start again
[10:03] <UBUxUBU> u said vista works fine, and u have no important files in ubuntu so....lets boogie.
[10:04] <UBUxUBU> lets do this...
[10:05] <ox3a> UBUxUBU, OK.... Will it delete all the downloaded package from synaptic(my internet is very slow ... )? Just i installed the ubuntu 4 hours ago
[10:05] <Guest9688> is there  a prob with the 10.10 network - tried kubuntu and ubuntu  and a distro based on it and can't connect eth0 or wlan0
[10:05] <gobbe> _Synergy_: what kind of hardware raid-device you are using?
[10:06] <UBUxUBU> ox3a, yes
[10:06] <UBUxUBU> ox3a, u try try other ppl here maybe they can fix it i cant
[10:07] <UBUxUBU> i just know how to dual boot cause i have done a bunch of them
[10:08] <UBUxUBU> you seem to have inferred the repair options failed
[10:08] <pjs_> Hi, can anyone tell me what to do if gnome-panel has its config corrupted? my hard drive had bad sectors and now all I get at login is my desktop, no icons/menus/task-switcher
[10:09] <juniour> hi
[10:09] <UBUxUBU> Download panel restore
[10:09] <juniour> happy new year to laa
[10:10] <UBUxUBU> $ gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel      $ pkill gnome-panel
[10:10] <juniour> hey i have install universal usb installer and installes this in my usb now wt ? to do to boot through usb
[10:10] <skumara> when I connect my ipod touch 4G it is mounted as camera at gphoto2://[usb:002,005]/. I can't sync with rhytmbox nor mount it as a removable drive. Can anyone help me to sync ipod to ubuntu?
[10:10] <juniour>  help me
[10:10] <eryio> hi
[10:11] <eryio> is it possible to jailbreak iphone with ubuntu ?
[10:11] <aurilliance> I'm trying to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixShowAllUsers but there is no directory /apps/gnome-system-tools. I'm running the latest stable version of ubuntu. Advice?
[10:11] <juniour>  hey i have install universal usb installer and installes this in my usb now wt ? to do to boot through usb
[10:11] <UBUxUBU> JUNIOR set bios to boot from usb
[10:11] <Flannel> aurilliance: create it.
[10:11] <skumara> ubottu ipod
[10:12] <juniour> iUBXxBUX i hve to give 1st priorty to usb for boot
[10:12] <gobbe> juniour: how did you create usb-stick?
[10:12] <aurilliance> Flannel, really? I don't see any option to add a folder, only the ability to add a new key...
[10:12] <UBUxUBU> yeah juniour or at least make sure it set to boot before the HD
[10:13]  * UBUxUBU does a lil ap dance around juniour ...
[10:13] <juniour> gobbe i have installed universal usb installer in my 4gb pen grive
[10:14] <juniour> gobbe?
[10:14] <gobbe> juniour: installer? you need to create a stick with installer
[10:14] <juniour> how
[10:14] <gobbe> juniour: so you run installer and select correct iso-image to be copied to stick
[10:14] <juniour> gobbe wt stick
[10:14] <juniour> ya
[10:14] <juniour> ya
[10:15] <juniour>  i havs selected the iso
[10:15] <juniour> then it started compressing
[10:15] <juniour> gobbe this the way na
[10:15] <juniour> ?
[10:16] <gobbe> juniour: so you selected iso from step 1, choose correct drive from step 3 and clicked create?
[10:16] <juniour> ya
[10:16] <juniour>  then it started compressing
[10:17] <UBUxUBU> boot it
[10:17] <juniour> it installed here bu how to boot
[10:17] <gobbe> and when it is done you jsut boot your computer
[10:17] <juniour> ?
[10:17] <juniour> gobbe
[10:17] <juniour> ?
[10:17] <gobbe> and select usb
[10:17] <FloodBot4> juniour: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:17] <UBUxUBU> go to set up and set it  to boot from usb baby
[10:18] <juniour> ya i vave booted but windows open only
[10:18] <juniour> no other option
[10:18] <UBUxUBU> sometimes you have to press f8 at start up
[10:18] <UBUxUBU> to get into bios
[10:18] <UBUxUBU> tap tap tap f8 or another f key at start up junior!
[10:18] <juniour> f8 for advancd recovery
[10:19] <UBUxUBU> try f2 juniour
[10:19] <UBUxUBU> or f12
[10:19] <UBUxUBU> its one of em
[10:19] <juniour> k
[10:19] <UBUxUBU> what brand of computer juniour
[10:19] <juniour> sony vaio
[10:20] <UBUxUBU> f2 on vios
[10:20] <ox3a> UBUxUBU,
[10:20] <UBUxUBU> junior its f2 on sony vios
[10:20] <juniour> k
[10:20] <juniour> i will try
[10:20] <UBUxUBU> peace be with you man
[10:21]  * UBUxUBU hands junior a few walnuts...
[10:21] <frobisher> ox3a look at PinguyOS,just google it.
[10:21] <UBUxUBU> sup ox3a
[10:22] <UBUxUBU> what can i do you fir?
[10:23] <ox3a> frobisher, that is OS?
[10:23] <frobisher> ox3a,yes it is.
[10:24] <ox3a> frobisher, Ubuntu base which is made someone... So like this i want to make
[10:24] <frobisher> It is all configuered right out of the box.
[10:24] <frobisher> It is ubuntu based
[10:25] <UBUxUBU> all roads lead to gnome...
[10:25] <XuMuK> Happy New Year!! :)
[10:26] <_Synergy_>  Anyone know what I need for ubuntu to recognize my hardware RAID 0 (ntfs) array?    [ a link to the motherboard: http://ca.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=YATvwCy0OZLGNWwp ]
[10:26] <UBUxUBU> driver issue
[10:26] <gobbe> _Synergy_: that's not real hardware raid
[10:27] <_Synergy_> I'm using a software raid?
[10:27] <_Synergy_> it is recognized in my bios before i even go into an OS
[10:27] <UBUxUBU> is it SATA synergy?
[10:28] <_Synergy_> yes
[10:28] <UBUxUBU> yikes
[10:28] <UBUxUBU> how old is the computer
[10:28] <_Synergy_> I cant find the name of the raid controller, all I see is an "SB850 chipset) on that page
[10:28] <gobbe> _Synergy_: yes it is, but it's not proper hardware raid, so you need to have drivers for that
[10:28] <_Synergy_> the motherboard is 6 months old
[10:28] <UBUxUBU> thats not a good thing
[10:28] <_Synergy_> thanks gobbe, any idea where I can get a driver for linux? I got one for windows from asus but there are no linux downloads there
[10:29] <gobbe> _Synergy_: try to google with your motherboard model and linux
[10:31] <UBUxUBU> new mobos should handle sata NP
[10:31] <_Synergy_> sata ya.. but sata & raid is another ballgame, yes?
[10:31] <UBUxUBU> still should
[10:31] <UBUxUBU> on new one
[10:31] <UBUxUBU> hmmm
[10:31] <UBUxUBU> what is the mobo model number
[10:32] <_Synergy_> i'm starting to think there is no linux driver because it's semi new
[10:32] <UBUxUBU> that is what i was worried about earlier
[10:32] <_Synergy_> ubu: http://ca.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=YATvwCy0OZLGNWwp it's an M4A87TD
[10:32] <UBUxUBU> but asus should be able to help u
[10:33] <UBUxUBU> whatv linux distro have u tried
[10:33] <ox3a> 1 ,omo
[10:34] <nawk> The aufs file system for '/' created by the Ubuntu 10.10 liveUSB is too small, is there a way I could configure it so that it will create a filesystem of a larger size?
[10:34] <nawk> Once I'm in the LiveCD environment, the amount of free space is ~5MB
[10:34] <_Synergy_> ubu : just ubuntu 10.04
[10:35] <UBUxUBU> try kubuntu
[10:35] <UBUxUBU> 1004 or 1010
[10:35] <_Synergy_> hmm you think kubuntu comes bundled with it?
[10:36] <UBUxUBU> its possible
[10:36] <UBUxUBU> it may be your only hope
[10:37] <UBUxUBU> kubuntu is LOADED
[10:38] <UBUxUBU> but asus already knows if they have driver support for that mobo
[10:45] <UBUxUBU> http://www.mododl.com/nt/ubuntu-10-10-sata-raid     may help u _Synergy_
[10:45] <UBUxUBU> 10.10 mayb help in this case
[10:45] <lahwran> sed -i is "alter in-place" correct?
[10:46] <_Synergy_> hmmm thanks
[10:46] <UBUxUBU> that link offers sata raid drivers
[10:46] <UBUxUBU> hehe
[10:46] <UBUxUBU> but u may need 10.10 ubuntu
[10:46] <UBUxUBU> i would be interested in knowing if that worked
[10:50] <exxtreme> Is there a bluetooth file transfer application (besides kbluetooth)  with a GUI ?  I want to transfer files from mobile phone to linux
[10:52] <gobbe> exxtreme: gnome has also bluetooth-gui
[10:53] <exxtreme> ok. thanks
[10:55] <juniour> hey happy new year to all
[10:56] <juniour> hey i am using ubuntu 10.10 in usb
[10:56] <juniour> and there is insall option forf that
[10:57] <r00t4rd3d> should be right on the desktop
[10:57] <juniour> i fi i install this my earlier ubuntu 10.04 will runied or not
[10:58] <juniour> i have installed ubuntu in windows 7 through wubi
[10:58] <juniour> 10.04
[10:58] <gobbe> juniour: why don't you just update your current one to 10.10?
[10:58] <r00t4rd3d> ya
[10:58] <juniour> how to do that
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> ive heard bad things about upgradeing wubi installs..
[10:58] <juniour> ?
[10:59] <juniour> how i update my 10.04 to 10.10
[10:59] <r00t4rd3d> i personally would just uninstall 04 and go with a frsh 10
[10:59] <gobbe> aah, sorry
[10:59] <gobbe> i didn
[10:59] <juniour> then wt?
[10:59] <gobbe> i didn't notice wubi
[10:59] <juniour> ya then
[11:00] <juniour> ther is wubu for 10.10
[11:00] <r00t4rd3d> yeah
[11:00] <juniour> gobbe  there is wubi for 10.10
[11:00] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/windows-installer
[11:00] <pavanai> how to change theme for cairo?
[11:01] <r00t4rd3d> will be fun when the date is 11/11/11 the world is going to blow up
[11:01] <skumara> when I connect my ipod touch 4G it is mounted as camera at gphoto2://[usb:002,005]/. I can't sync with rhytmbox nor mount it as a removable drive. Can anyone help me to sync ipod to ubuntu?
[11:02] <buntu> how do u add a user to the su group?
[11:03] <r00t4rd3d> add a new user
[11:03] <r00t4rd3d> under System , admin , users and groups
[11:04] <amfamf> I downloaded and installed ubuntu now and it's my first time using this os... I had a great time with my first day and it seems that I'm getting it. I can't find the programming language support though? any idea on this?
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> amfamf:  what language?
[11:04] <buntu> root4rd3d: terminal?
[11:04] <amfamf> c++,java
[11:04] <r00t4rd3d> no threw the desktop
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> you can install java and c++ files via the pacakge manager
[11:04] <Dr_Willis> !java | amfamf
[11:05] <juniour> gobberoot4rd3d that wubi for 10.04 i think wubi for 10.10 hvent release yet
[11:05] <amfamf> ok
[11:05] <amfamf> i thought you have to go to -sudo or something
[11:05] <juniour> root4rd3d that wubi for 10.04 i think wubi for 10.10  hvent release yet
[11:05] <r00t4rd3d> no juniour its for 1010
[11:05] <ccaggie05> For those long term users...has Ubuntu completely replaced Windows/Mac usage?
[11:05] <rethus> i've try to add ppa:xubuntu-team/ppa to repositories, but got an error
[11:05] <Gimbli> amfamf: For Java I would recommend eclipse. If you want to program in C++ I would choose the Qt Creator as an IDE
[11:05] <amfamf> so i have to go to the package manager
[11:05] <rethus> https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-team/+archive/ppa
[11:05] <ccaggie05> I'm shocked by how practically every program I use in Vista has a replacement here
[11:05] <rethus> done like there describe: https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-team/+archive/ppa
[11:05] <rethus> even didn't work with ubuntu
[11:06] <amfamf> so which is much better install the ide's packed with the compilers?
[11:06] <amfamf> like codeblocks and eclipse?
[11:06] <amfamf> or install it via package manager
[11:07] <Gimbli> amfamf: depends on your needs I guess. if you do not have any special recommendations you can install them via package manager
[11:07] <juniour> r00t4rd3d earlier i have tried it hasent work for 10.10
[11:07] <Gimbli> amfamf: s/recommendations/requirements/ ;)
[11:08] <juniour> r00t4rd3d when i run 10.10 through usb there is option for installing 10.10
[11:08] <amfamf> Gimbli: is that a directory which i can access through the terminal?
  funny microsoft never mentioned that..
[11:08] <juniour> r00t4rd3d and if i run that option there is option f install along side other os
[11:09] <amfamf> I am so noob
[11:09] <juniour> if i do this cani use boths 10.10 and 10.04
[11:09] <Gimbli> amfamf: what kind of directory do you mean? if you mean the package manager I would recommend the "GUI" way via synaptic
[11:09] <amfamf> hahahha not that
[11:09] <juniour> r00t4rd3d?
[11:09] <amfamf> the s/recommendations/requirements u say
[11:09] <amfamf> sori man
[11:09] <Gimbli> amfamf: no problem ;)
[11:10] <skumara> anyone know how to mount my ipod on /dev/ipod?  lsusb show this info http://pastebin.com/mGJCW26U please help?
[11:10] <juniour> r00t4rd3d?
[11:10] <Gimbli> amfamf: sorry, gotta be off now. perhaps someone else can guide you to install the IDEs you want :)
[11:10] <amfamf> guess i have to study more on linux commands and the architecture of it... I totally love this ubuntu
[11:10]  * KM0201 wakes up
[11:11] <UBUxUBU> juniour, i am usind wubi 0n 1004 right now
[11:11] <amfamf> Gimbli: I'll just google it...
[11:11] <Gimbli> amfamf: ah, it should not be that difficult. everything you need can be found in the repositories, I guess
[11:11] <krogers0001> is it true that hackers wrote linux?
[11:11] <juniour> UBXxUBX I AM USING SAME
[11:12] <juniour> UBXxUBX ug to my ques
[11:12] <amfamf> i'll be out now.. thanks guys
[11:12] <andismith> test
[11:12] <juniour> UBXxUBX have u tried wubi for 10.10
[11:13] <juniour> UBXxUBX
[11:13] <juniour> ?
[11:13] <andismith> hi is there a way to use the blackberry-gps-device (connected via usb to the notebook) fos gpsd?
[11:13] <UBUxUBU> preference...admin...disk util         for mounting stuff
[11:13] <andismith> cant find any information for this on the net
[11:13] <UBUxUBU> no i havent tried 1010 junior
[11:13] <juniour> K
[11:13] <krogers0001> is there any way to chat on irc through the terminal
[11:13] <krogers0001> ?
[11:14] <gobbe> krogers0001: yes, like irssi
[11:14] <krogers0001> thank you
[11:14] <juniour> krogers0001 ya
[11:14] <juniour> krogers0001 sudo apt-get install -y irssi
[11:14] <UBUxUBU> skumara, try preferences...administration...disk utility...
[11:14] <UBUxUBU> look in there
[11:15] <UBUxUBU> right now 10.04 is still the schidddt
[11:15] <Kevin`> how can I remove nvidia's glx
[11:15] <skumara> UBUxUBU, my ipod does not show up in disk utility as a portable disk.
[11:16] <skumara> UBUxUBU, fdisk -l does not have my ipod.
[11:16] <kevin_> sweet i'm chatting in terminal
[11:16] <UBUxUBU> WHAT BRAND
[11:16] <skumara> UBUxUBU, ipod touch 4G
[11:17] <kevin_> exit
[11:17] <UBUxUBU> no wonder
[11:17] <krogers0001> how do i boot directly into the command line?
[11:17] <UBUxUBU> ipod is a nono
[11:17] <UBUxUBU> gentoo
[11:18] <UBUxUBU> or arch
[11:18] <krogers0001> ubuxubu are you talking to me?
[11:18] <gjm> Hi. I need a C++ IDE. What is good?
[11:18] <skumara> UBUxUBU, u mean i have to use gentoo or arch linux?
[11:19] <Sriram> gjm: Have heard that anjuta is pretty nice
[11:20] <jcdusse> gjm: or code blocks
[11:20] <gjm> thanks
[11:20] <Sriram> gjm: Or just use vim with extensions :)
[11:20] <krogers0001> i'm using ubuntu 10.04 and i would like to boot into the command line can someone help?
[11:21] <gjm> Sriram: ;]
[11:21] <krogers0001> and thanks for telling about irssi i love it
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> krogers0001:  use the 'text' option at teh grub menu. edit the boot line. replace 'quiet splash' with 'text'
[11:21] <juniour>  krogers0001 while booting select command line
[11:21] <Dr_Willis> recovery mode = command line only i thought.
[11:21] <gjm> Sriram: and what about NetBeans?
[11:22] <ouyes> I have some data stored in my hard drive , that is very important to me, I do not want others to copy these data, is there a way to protect these data that anything copied from my hard drive would become trashes, no just encryption?
[11:22] <juniour>  krogers0001 recovery mode command line
[11:22] <Dr_Willis> ouyes:  not that ive ever seen.
[11:22] <krogers0001> juniour how do i go into recovery mode?
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> ouyes:  perhaps some of the fuse tools.. but o doubt if what you are asking is possible,.
[11:23] <wd4lko> ctrl+alt+1 gives you a terminal with the command line
[11:23] <ouyes> Dr_Willis, I think it is possible
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> krogers0001:  the grub menu normally has a  normal boot  option, and below that a 'recovery' option.
[11:23] <Aihetleos> guys the window border is not appear on the window and i dont know how to make ot appear. do you have any idea???
[11:23] <wd4lko> +F1 i meant
[11:23] <Dr_Willis> Aihetleos:  try alt-f2  then run 'metacity --replace'
[11:23] <juniour>  krogers0001 while booting u get option like generic below there is option for recovery or command line
[11:24] <juniour>  krogers0001 got it
[11:24] <krogers0001> ok
[11:24] <juniour> ?
[11:24] <krogers0001> yeah thanks
[11:24] <UBUxUBU> disable gdm, kdm, or xdm in you window manager of choice depending on your window manager of choicethen you when you boot up (or logout) you will be at the command line. Then to start your window manager (depending on which one) usually you can just type startx cheers
[11:24] <krogers0001> really appreciate it
 im pressing alt f2 but nothing appears
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> Aihetleos:  then gnome really crashed. can you open a terminal via the menus?
 yes
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> Aihetleos:  open a terminal then and try 'metacity --replace'  in it.
 use alter +f2
[11:25] <Dr_Willis> Aihetleos:  open a terminal then and try 'metacity --replace &'  in it.  if alt-f2 is not working
[11:26] <CyL> Happy New Year folks...
 i open terminal and it works
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> use the 'exit' command to close the terminal
[11:27] <juniour> hi
[11:28] <Ranjan> is their any alternative for Notification Area in gnome ?
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> Ranjan:  you mean to put the mail/volume icons somewhere else?
[11:29] <Dr_Willis> or you mean the OSD type messages?
[11:30] <pratz> hey guys can i recover my os with pen drive ??
[11:30] <Ranjan> Dr_Willis ::: mail/volume icons ...  osd is not an issue
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> pratz:  you can fix a lot of problems with a bootable flash drive. yes.
[11:30] <Dr_Willis> Ranjan:  what do you want to do with them? Some docks have  a way to 'hold' the icons also.
[11:30] <UBUxUBU> You might want to check out Tint2 at http://code.google.com/p/tint2/.
 puppy linux is good for that. It boots as root and allows you to access all your devices instantly.
 i went to the applications then to others and i press the metacity app then it work. Do you have any idea why it crashed?
[11:32] <Dr_Willis> Aihetleos:  if compiz, or metacity crashes, then you lose you window borders. most likely you were using compiz and that crashed. meticty does the same job and is a bit more stable. but not  as fancy effects.
[11:33] <Ranjan> Dr_Willis:: well I was looking out for thing that can reduce this space from panel cause I am using ubuntu on hp mini where work area is very limited ....
 ok thanks!!!
[11:34] <pratz> yesterday i started my laptop and i got an error for low graphics , i have no idea how to fix that
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> Ranjan:  i recall some alternative menu item for the panel that put the apps,places,system menus - into one pull down menu.
[11:34] <mina> salam canale iraniha kojas?
[11:35] <pratz> Dr_Willis: yesterday i started my laptop and i got an error for low graphics , i have no idea how to fix that
[11:35] <Dr_Willis> pratz:  whats your vdeo card?
[11:37] <valcom87> --help
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> !ask
[11:37] <Ranjan> Dr_Willis: I was going though with some article on internet in which they were talking about in the future versions of ubuntu their'll not be any notification area ...
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> Ranjan:  who can tell... they may change their mind 100 times.. in the next year.
[11:38] <p_res> Ranjan: I don't use one now. I've dumped it.
[11:38] <p_res> I use a tri-panel system but have no notificationsas it is.
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> I like panels and panel applets.. easy to undertand and customize. Now theres some weird anti-panel-status-bar disease going around..
[11:39] <Ranjan> Dr_Willis :: ha ha :)
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> at least we seem to be getting away from the 'desktop widgit'  obeseeion.
[11:40] <Ranjan> Dr_Willis: thanks .. and have an great time ahead ....
[11:40] <mina> I am Iranian.
[11:40] <rww> !ir
[11:40] <ccaggie05> I have a question for experienced users...is it possible to upgrade to a new version of Ubuntu (or another linux distro) without losing your Linux or Windows files?
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> ccaggie05:  Upgradeing is a feature of the pacakge manager. so yes its possible.
[11:41] <p_res> Dr_Willis: I'm not anti-panel. I have three of them! But I only have what's necessary on those panels.
[11:41] <gobbe> ccaggie05: yes it is
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> upgrading to a differnt disrto = not really a good idea.
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> upgradeing ubuntu - should not affect windows at all.
[11:42] <Ranjan> ccaggie05: but some times .. system fails to boot up after upgrade ... may be system can get broke
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> Keeping /home/ on its own partition. can make  life a lot easier.
[11:42] <Ranjan> ccaggie05: in your linux part
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> then you can do a clean reinstall. and not lose your users information/files.
[11:43] <ccaggie05> can you use the same /home partition with other distros?
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> ccaggie05:  you can. but need to be carefull.  sunce the order of the users added, and the uid's assigned to them. can cause issues.
[11:43] <Dr_Willis> ccaggie05:  use differnt usernames on each disrto would be a good idea.
[11:44] <ccaggie05> you mean usernames for the OS?
[11:44] <Dr_Willis> the names of the Users you add when you install.. yes.
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> if you install 2 differnt ubuntu variants (for example) you could get away with same users. IF you added them in teh same order.
[11:45] <matrix12> ciao
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> otehrwise user #1 files may show up as user #2's files if you added them in reverse order.
[11:45] <Dr_Willis> when you boot the other disrto.
[11:46] <pavanai> what is the command to install tiddlywiki?
[11:46] <ccaggie05> oh ok
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> user id's start at 1000 in ubuntu. If you add 10 users. they will be 1001, and so on up to 1010. If you do it in a differnt order. then theuir uid's will differ.
[11:46] <ccaggie05> thanks for that tip
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> pavanai:  you just download the file and put it in a directory. theres no install to it.
[11:46] <Dr_Willis> pavanai:  its a stand alone wiki-in-a-html-file
[11:47] <ccaggie05> I'm liking Ubuntu...but with so many options out there it's tough not to want to try them out...
[11:47] <pavanai> Dr_Willis that site aint working
[11:47] <Dr_Willis> pavanai:  theres otehr tiddlywiki sites out with  enhanced versions.  theres also the #tiddlywiki channel i recall
[11:48] <Dr_Willis> pavanai:  in theory you can save any tidlywiki web site/page to a file. and have the whole site downloaded, you could then edit as you want.
[11:49] <p_res> ccaggie05: That's why we have Live CD's.
[11:49] <shaggy2> is anyone here got expirence with AWStats issues?
[11:49] <KM0201> ccaggie05: if your PC is powerful enough... use virtualbox to try new distros... i do that a lot
[11:50] <Dr_Willis> pavanai:  this site is working it seems -> has a download button --> http://tiddlywiki.com/#GettingStarted
[11:50] <shaggy2> I have an issue with AWSTATS
[11:51] <shaggy2> issue is: Error: SiteDomain parameter not defined in your config/domain file. You must edit it for using this version of AWStats.
[11:52] <shaggy2> I have ubuntu 10.10 Apache2 AWStats is isntalled and setup for a multiple vhosts is there anyway I can tell awstats what config file it needs to look for for a certain domain
[11:52] <gnugr> hi everyne and happy New Year, ! reinstalled 10.04 distro but i lost permisions for /home how gan i get permisions back, what is terminal command to fix it?
[11:53] <gnugr> sorry for my typping
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> gnugr:  chown it to the user you want to accesss their /home/username
[11:53] <gnugr> lots mistakes
[11:53] <Dr_Willis> gnugr:  check permissions of /home/* the users dir IN home. and of /home/ itself
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> ls -ld /home
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 2010-10-16 06:31 /home
[11:54] <shaggy2> is anyone able to help with my issue?
[11:54] <Dr_Willis> gnugr:  and - should be like ->   ls -ld /home/willis
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> drwxr-xr-x 93 willis willis 12288 2011-01-01 06:51 /home/willis
[11:55] <huazai> hello
[11:55] <gnugr> ok ty
[11:55] <royale1223> Dr_Willis, WHY AM I GETTING AN ERROR WHEN TRYING TO COPY CONTACTS FROM EVOLUTION?
[11:55] <huazai> who are  you?
[11:55] <rethus> have installed ubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop and lubuntu-desktop. Than i removed ubuntu-desktop... but in the loginscreen of xubuntu i still have all the sessions from ubuntu choosable.
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> royale1223:  no idea. I never use evolution.
[11:55] <rethus> how can i remove them
[11:55] <Dr_Willis> !support | huazai
[11:55] <rethus> royale1223:  no shouting here!
[11:56] <royale1223> Anybody here familer with evolution?
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> rethus:  they are defined by various .desktop files.
[11:56] <rethus> Dr_Willis: where are these file slocated?
[11:56] <Dr_Willis>  rethus  'locate gnome.desktop' tells me they are in...
[11:56] <Dr_Willis> /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop
[11:56] <shaggy2> I have ubuntu 10.10 Apache2 AWStats is isntalled and setup for a multiple vhosts is there anyway I can tell awstats what config file it needs to look for for a certain domain I get this error when I navigate to www.mydomain.net/awstats/awstats.pl
[11:57] <Ranjan> Thanks every body ... It's an great time today... I wish all the users an great , Happy and prosperous new year 2011... have an great time ahead ..:)
[11:57] <bt> installed ubuntu on a samsung q310, fn for sound works fine, whenever i touch anything regarding screen brightness the brightness tooltip goes in a loop and system freezes, any idea how to approach?
[11:58] <rethus> Dr_Willis: thanks, thats what i'm searching fore
[11:58] <rethus> -e
[12:01] <gnugr> still no permisions on /home
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> gnugr:  what are the current permissions on /home/ ?
[12:01] <gnugr> as root
[12:01] <gnugr> not as user
[12:01] <Dr_Willis> and your users dir in home?
[12:02] <`marianne`> hey, is there any way to install the hypercube screensaver? it's usually part of xscreensaver, but it's not in xscreensaver's list
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> `marianne`:  i think theres some glscreensavers in teh package listings you can install
[12:02] <shaggy2> gnugr type ls -la in the root dir
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> ls -ld /home
[12:03] <`marianne`> Dr_Willis, i already installed those, and hypercube doesn't use opengl
[12:03] <`marianne`> it's just lines, no fancy textures or anything
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> `marianne`:  no idea then - i dont mess with screensavers much.
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> may be in some other xscreensavers pavkage.
[12:04] <shaggy2> if need be you can type sudo su then input your sudo users password then you'll be logged in as root, and you can then change chown on any directory
[12:04] <`marianne`> i miss hypercube :( lol
[12:04] <shaggy2> gnugr: if need be you can type sudo su then input your sudo users password then you'll be logged in as root, and you can then change chown on any directory
[12:04] <Dr_Willis>  /home seems to be mode '755' here
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> its better to use 'sudo -i' not 'sudo su'
[12:05] <alex_under> hi
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[12:05] <alex_under> I made a iptables nat
[12:05] <alex_under> and on the client PC
[12:06] <alex_under> I can't access some websites
[12:06] <alex_under> like Facebook
[12:06] <alex_under> can some one tell me why ? :|
[12:06] <john> i am putting ubuntu on my laptop and when i get to the point were it says preparing to install the courser starts spining and it just has been siting that way for over an hour any ideas
[12:06] <gnugr> most dirs in /home are www-data mode
[12:06] <`marianne`> i think i just found a bug? the package xscreensaver-data-extra describes itself as having hypercube but it does not
[12:07] <Dr_Willis> gnugr:  you may want to pastebin the output of 'ls -l /home'
[12:07] <gnugr> ok hang on
[12:07] <Dr_Willis> gnugr:  each user has their own dir in /home/ that should be owned by that specific user.
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> and seems to have a mode of '755' here.
[12:09] <Gryllida> locate: fatal error: Could not find user database '/var/lib/slocate/slocate.db':  No such file or directory
[12:09] <Dr_Willis> Gryllida:  try 'sudo updatedb' ?
[12:10] <Gryllida> updatedb: fatal error: load_file: Could not open file: /etc/updatedb.conf: No such file or directory
[12:11] <pomka> hi all
[12:11] <gnugr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/549247/
[12:11] <pomka> Есть русские?
[12:11] <Gryllida> !ru | pomka
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> Gryllida:  weird. seems that locate dident properly install.
[12:14] <alex_under> noone can help me ?
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> !find updatedb.conf
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> alex_under:  thats a bit of a complex task. i havent used nat in years. so not sure what to say.
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> alex_under:  could be some other firewall rules causing issues.
[12:15] <gnugr> Dr_Willis: did you see my pastebin?
[12:16] <alex_under> I see
[12:16] <alex_under> Dr_Willis thanks
[12:16] <john> ok i already have ubuntu on my laptop and when i go to load it up it says ubuntu, with linux 2.6.35-23- generic-pae and when i click it, it goes to a bios type black screen with the word initramfs please some one help me
[12:17] <Dr_Willis> gnugr:  files IN your users home dir. shoudl proberly be owned  by your user - not www-data
[12:18] <gnugr> is this command correct: chown vangelis:vangelis /home -R *
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> gnugr:   so you would want to do somthing like 'sudo chown   vangelis:vangelis    /home/vangelis/*'
[12:18] <john> i tryed to reinstall but it wont reinstall with the disk what should i do please help
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> yea the -R would be recursive.. like you said..
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> gnugr:  you ARE confuseing /home/ with /home/vangelis
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> gnugr:  the 2 are Radically different. :)
[12:19] <gnugr> ok
[12:19] <Dr_Willis>  /home/vangelis is also known as ~ or your users 'home' not the same as /home/
[12:20] <john> please i cant figuer this out
[12:20] <daniel_cynthiak> hi
[12:20] <john> hi
[12:20] <daniel_cynthiak> can someone please help?
[12:21] <CyL> !help daniel_cynthiak
[12:21] <daniel_cynthiak> female preferred
[12:21] <Dr_Willis> john:  try a non pae kernel perhaps? those can have issues with some hardware
[12:21] <CyL> !ask | daniel_cynthiak
[12:21] <gnugr> okay done thnks alot, Happy New Year
[12:22] <CyL> !detail | john
[12:22] <daniel_cynthiak> any females to help with my?
[12:22] <john> ok this will sound stupid but i dont understand
[12:22] <CyL> !details | john
[12:22] <buntu> hi! i have an issue. My /home is running out of disk space, i added an extra HD, but what's the method to move home to new HD?
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> john:  the 'pae' kernel is a 32bit kernel with extras to allow access of over 4gb of ram. Its  can have issues with some hardware.
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> john:  that wouldent explain why you cant boot the cd again and reinstall however.
[12:23] <daniel_cynthiak> ???
[12:23] <Dr_Willis> daniel_cynthiak:  you have not asked an actual question that ive seen.
[12:23] <buntu> hi John
[12:23] <CyL> buntu: partition the new hd, format it, copy files, remount the new hd as your home (optinionally wipe your old home so that you can save some space after being sure everything is fine with the new home)
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> !movehome
[12:24] <buntu> Cyl: great, will figure out
[12:24] <john> the boot cd goes to the preparing to install and just sits there
[12:24] <Dr_Willis> theres some move home factoid. but i cant rember it.
[12:24]  * bonjoyee Wishes a Happy New Year:)
[12:25] <daniel_cynthiak> how do i re do my whole ascend m860 after formatting it?
[12:25] <CyL> Dr_Willis: People can't blame you for not having a RAM instead ofa human brain ;)
[12:25] <sresu_> I'm not able to start cron daemon. <sudo cron> gives -  cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 1067: Resource temporarily unavailable. But  <ps aux | grep crond> gives
[12:25] <sresu_> hsr      11772  0.0  0.0   4008   764 pts/1    S+   17:55   0:00 grep --color=auto crond
[12:25] <rumpe1> buntu, or you choose the easy way and just mount your new HD into your home as a directory, where you can store your additional stuff
[12:25] <buntu> john: try other install options on menu? or try a memtest?
[12:26] <CyL> daniel_cynthiak: why would you prefer a female to answer this quetsion?
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> daniel_cynthiak:  and whats an ascent m860 exactly?
[12:26] <kevin_> quit
[12:26] <buntu> rumpe1: that sounds like what im after
[12:26] <john> right now im on a black screen with the word initramfs
[12:26] <daniel_cynthiak> an huaWEI ascend m860
[12:27] <rumpe1> buntu, i prefer not to mount every partition available, when i only need them seldom ... and you save some effort, when the partitions are checked at bootup
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> daniel_cynthiak:  and that answer does not really tell us much new infomation.
[12:27] <buntu> rumpe1: so what happens to my old /home? i dnt have much in old home. just curious
[12:27] <sresu_> How do I start cron daemon? The time schedule server "cron(d)" does not seem to be running.
[12:27] <daniel_cynthiak> why  Cyl u a female? :0)
[12:28] <john> ok im am running memtest
[12:28] <CyL> buntu: if you mount your mount your new home without moving it before, the old files become unacessible..
[12:28] <rumpe1> buntu, nothing... just create /home/user/newstorage -directory and create an fstab entry (e.g. without auto-option) ... then you can mount via nautilus, if you need it by clicking
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> buntu:  you could move the current /home to /oldhome, and make a new /home/ that points to the new filesystem
[12:28] <CyL> daniel_cynthiak: If I am?
[12:28] <buntu> what is ubuntu 10 system requirement?
[12:29] <daniel_cynthiak> r u flirting with me cyl?
[12:29] <buntu> google
[12:29] <CyL> !offtopic | daniel_cynthiak
[12:29] <daniel_cynthiak> i know sorry just waking up
[12:30] <buntu> john: also note the system requirement of ubuntu 10 https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[12:30] <rumpe1> buntu, but if your old /home is on the same partiton as /, i would recommend moving your home to the separate partition
[12:30] <buntu> rumpe1: ok
[12:30] <john> ive been running it for about two weeks or more now and the prob just started today
[12:31] <buntu> ic
[12:31] <daniel_cynthiak> my huawei m860 was formatted but i can't figure out how to put an O.S. back on it
[12:32] <buntu> what's your boot medium? cd/dvd/usb?
[12:32] <buntu> @john
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> Pop in a cd.. boot it up.. insdtall... daniel_cynthiak
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> or boot from flash drive.
[12:32] <john> dvd
[12:33] <daniel_cynthiak> it is a smartphone no cd drive
[12:33] <DiagonalArg> Ignore - New at this, just trying to figure out who I am ... :)
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> daniel_cynthiak:   I imagine you will need to be doing some googling soon on that then.
[12:34] <sresu_> !info gadmin-rsync
[12:34] <buntu> Ok, can we help John here> i think the problem is beyond my linux/ubuntu understanding
[12:34] <shaggy2> I have ubuntu 10.10 server with Apache2, I have installed and configured awstats for use on multiple domains, how ever I get th error "Error: SiteDomain parameter not defined in your config/domain file. You must edit it for using this version of AWStats." when I navigate to www.mydomain.net/awstats/awstats.pl, Can anyone assist me with this error? I have googled the error and found no reference
[12:34] <shaggy2> to this error
[12:34] <FloodBot4> shaggy2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:35] <daniel_cynthiak> why u can't help me?
[12:35] <shaggy2> eh say what I didn't flood :S
[12:35] <sacarlson> anyone get pptpd working in ubuntu10.10? I get GRE: Bad checksum from pppd , seen in my host /syslog  and fails to connect on my client side
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> daniel_cynthiak:  i doubt if anyone in this channel has managed to format their cellphone, or installed ubuntu onto one.
[12:35] <bartek> hi
[12:36] <john> any ideas please
[12:36] <buntu> @john.... is this scenario correct. Running Ubuntu for 2 weeks, now the system crashed and trying to reinstall but freezes after few lines
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> john:  the live cd still boots up and works fine?
[12:37] <john> ya pretty much @ buntu
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. live cd does not work. any more.
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> no other hardware changes?
[12:37] <buntu> john: k do what a Dr_Willis suggested
[12:37] <Jaaccs> HI every one
[12:37] <john> yes i just used it to install on desktop
[12:37] <shaggy2> john: maybe HDD failed, might have dead sectors, might have simply died, do you hvae another HDD you can install to??
[12:38] <john> worked fine just not on laptop
[12:39] <buntu> john: do a hd check to confirm
[12:39] <john> maybe hdd it would be the second one on this laptop had older version no it befor
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> if you have a spare flash drive. you may want to try making a bootable flash drive and see if the laptop boots from that.
[12:39] <rooks> can i use few crontab commands in one line?  like → cp /a /b; rm /a; mkdir /a
[12:39] <john> well it will do the tial no prop
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> rooks:  try it and see.. but i dont recall ever seeing that done. You may want to vall them from a simple script.
[12:40] <john> just wont install
[12:40] <rooks> Dr_Willis, yeah, thought the same,, but im lazy :P
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> john:  so ubuntu was working on the laptop however.. installed from that cd befor?
[12:40] <john> yes
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> john:  are there any other kernel entries on that machine in the grub menu? one thats not a 'pae' kernel?
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> hit shift at boot time to see th full grub menu.
[12:41] <shaggy2> I have ubuntu 10.10 server with Apache2, I have installed and configured awstats for use on multiple domains, how ever I get th error "Error: SiteDomain parameter not defined in your config/domain file. You must edit it for using this version of AWStats." when I navigate to www.mydomain.net/awstats/awstats.pl, Can anyone assist me with this error? I have googled the error and found no reference
[12:41] <shaggy2> to this error
[12:41] <FloodBot4> shaggy2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:41] <Jaacs> which version should I install on my laptop the netbook version or the desktop version
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> Jaacs:  i woudl say go wih the desktop version.
[12:42] <Jaacs> Willis can u please help me understand both versions
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> shaggy2:  theres #ubuntu-server also
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> Jaacs:  differance is the default desktop interface.
[12:42] <CyL> Jaacs: They differ primarily on the appearance, but I'd also go with the desktop
[12:42] <john> idk i dont know a hole lot about it
[12:42] <shaggy2> ok thank you DR_Willis
[12:43] <Jaacs> coz with the 10.4 that I have currently installed does not detect my webcam
[12:43] <john> how would i cheak
[12:43] <Jaacs> is that coz of the desktop thing?
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> john:  when the laptop boots up. you see a list of items.. ubuntu , then ubuntu (recovery), and how may other items? if theres more then those 2. try some farther down the list. see if any of those work. Look for one that does NOT have 'pae' mentioned in its name.
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> Jaacs:  webcam support would be the same in mosta ll ubuntu variants./
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> Jaacs:  10.10 may have support for more cals.
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> cams.
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> Jaacs:  how are you testing the webcam? did you try it in cheese?
[12:44] <CyL> Jaacs: harware compatibility would not change.. the netbook version albeit being more tailored to small screen lappys is not so efficient as the desktop version, even with a small screen IMHO (maybe with a touch screen this is different...)
[12:45] <john> ok there isnt one that does not have that accept memtest
[12:45] <angelo> ciaooooooooooooo e buon anno a tutti
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> john:  i have to wonder how pae kernels got installed onyour laptop. How much ram does it have?
[12:45] <john> 4g
[12:45] <rumpe1> Jaacs, the difference is not so big, you can always switch from one to another without big effort.
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> john:  so the pae kernel isent gaining you anything anyway.
[12:46] <chefBaggins> Happy new Year Ubuntu users!
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> john:  so you just have 3 entries on the grub menu? ubuntu , ubuntu (recovery) and memtest ?
[12:46] <john> no 6
[12:47] <LittleCj3k> exit
[12:49] <john> ubuntu, with linux 2.6.35-23-generic-pae times 2 and 2 with recovery and memtest (memtest86
[12:50] <john> +  ) and memtest (serial console 115200
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> pay attention to the last #  the -23  - one of those shold be different. I would try the other linux ones. and see if any of them, work.
[12:50] <Scottzor> I installed ubuntu server edition on my pc I'm dedicating as a samba server today, in the installation it asks me what type of server I wanted it to be and what I wanted to install, I selecting Samba yet I can't find it in my server?
[12:50] <john> ok ya ther is a -22
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> Scottzor:  try installing it by hand.. 'sudo apt-get install samba' and see if it installs
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> Scottzor:  you would still need to configure your samba shares.
[12:51] <john> no black screen with a lot of stff on it and at the bottom (initramfs)
[12:51] <llutz_> hi, happy new year
[12:51] <Scottzor> Ok
[12:51] <wyclif> llutz: happy new year, hello
[12:52] <wtz> hi
[12:52] <john> stff=stuff
[12:53] <toiletduck> was wondering if anyone here has any knowledge of WUBI???
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> toiletduck:  ive seen enough people with problems with it in here.. to suggest not using it.
[12:54] <wyclif> toiletduck: there's probably some ppl in here that do the wubi
[12:54] <wyclif> toiletduck: installing?
[12:54] <usr13> !WUBI | toiletduck
[12:54] <ChefBaggins> toiletduck, forgett about it... It's a nightmare...
[12:54] <toiletduck> ive used it before
[12:54] <Scottzor> I installed manually, now where do I go to configure it?
[12:55] <toiletduck> but i had to format my hard drive and now my system asks if i want to boot win or ubuntu at start up even though ubuntu is no longer on my system
[12:55] <sresu_> How do I start crond daemon??
[12:55] <toiletduck> and thats the part im trying to fix
[12:55] <wyclif> toiletduck: is there some reason you don't want to install the normal way?
[12:55] <usr13> toiletduck: Notice the "Please file bugs at..." part
[12:55] <toiletduck> wyclif i dont want to install at all
[12:56] <toiletduck> usr13 its not a bug though, its something im trying to fix on my netbook
[12:56] <usr13> sresu_: Should already be installed.
[12:56] <toiletduck> was just wondering if anyone else here knew about it
[12:56] <sresu_> usr13: Yes, it is. Im asking about starting it
[12:56] <usr13> sresu_: See crontab -i
[12:56] <Scottzor> ?
[12:57] <wyclif> toiletduck: are you going to set up dual boot?
[12:57] <sresu_> usr13: crontab: usage error: file name must be specified for replace
[12:57] <usr13> sresu_: Correction:  crontab -l   (not -i)
[12:57] <wyclif> toiletduck: why not just reformat with Ubuntu and install it w/o wubi?
[12:58] <sresu_> usr13: No crontab for user. Don't you know about the change that crontab is been made system wide?
[12:58] <toiletduck> wyclif: i dont want to install ubuntu
[12:58] <wyclif> toiletduck: OK
[12:58] <davids9d0f> I want to mount /dev/sdb1 to /mnt/coolfolder, but coolfolder doesn't exist. Is there a parameter I can use that creates the folder automatically and deletes it when I call umount?
[12:58] <toiletduck> when i turn my netbook on it asks me if i want to boot window 7 or ubuntu
[12:58] <toiletduck> the problem being is that Ubuntu is not installed!
[12:58] <sresu_> usr13: cat /etc/crontab
[12:58] <usr13> sresu_: Oh, no, I guess not.
[12:58] <Linux_Galore> toiletduck: thats normal
[12:58] <toiletduck> and rebuilding the boot manager in windows doesnt work
[12:58] <Linux_Galore> toiletduck: you are confusing two different things
[12:58] <wyclif> toiletduck: you want to get rid of the Ubuntu boot option
[12:59] <john> @ dr_willis should i just make another disk and see if it works
[12:59] <Linux_Galore> toiletduck: what you are seeing is grub, it is a boot manager
[12:59] <toiletduck> yes wyclif
[13:00] <usr13> davids9d0f: If you want to create a special mount point of your own, you will have to do it yourself.
[13:00] <sresu_> usr13: It says - /etc/crontab: system-wide crontab Unlike any other crontab you don't have to run the `crontab' command to install the new version when you edit this file and files in /etc/cron.d. These files also have username fields, that none of the other crontabs do.
[13:00] <toiletduck> I know its grub Linux_Galore, but being that i only have ONE Operating system on my netbook, i dont want to see it.
[13:00] <wyclif> toiletduck: listen to what Linux_Galore is saying. I think it's just a matter of editing your grub2 config file
[13:00] <Linux_Galore> toiletduck: basically you need to remove grub from the mbr and install the default windows mbr
[13:00] <usr13> sresu_: You can't just do   crontab -e  ?
[13:00] <sresu_> usr13: I just want to start it
[13:01] <toiletduck> how would i do that Linux_Galore?
[13:01] <wyclif> Linux_Galore: yep, bingo
[13:01] <toiletduck> cos if i boot into the are of windows to fix the mbr through command line, it doesnt change anything.
[13:01] <usr13> sresu_: I do not think  you need to start it.
[13:01] <Linux_Galore> toiletduck: never done it myself, need to use a windows partition management tool
[13:01] <geirha> sresu_: It's already started, unless you specifically stopped it.
[13:01] <Linux_Galore> toiletduck: windows itself wont do it
[13:01] <toiletduck> so what should i google for exactly?
[13:02] <Linux_Galore> toiletduck: remove ubuntu grub windows mbr
[13:02] <sresu_> usr13:geirha: Well, then why it isn't running scripts which I've added?
[13:02] <geirha> sresu_: ''service cron status''
[13:02] <geirha> sresu_: Most likely your script fails for some reason.
[13:02] <usr13> sresu_: Maybe there is an error in the script?  Show us.  Pastebin the output of crontab -l
[13:03] <usr13> sresu_: Have you tested them?
[13:03] <sresu_> geirha: Yeah, its running - cron start/running, process 1067 Same what ps aux | grep cron gives
[13:03] <litel> Hello, i would like to know if it is possible to reinstall linux completly without live cd or usb ? (sorry for the rotten english btw )
[13:03] <sresu_> usr13: One moment
[13:03] <wyclif> toiletduck: boot from your Windows CD if you have one, and enter console mode
[13:03] <wlodek> hey
[13:03] <wyclif> toiletduck: Recovery Console, when it asks if you want to boot Windows or not
[13:04] <Linux_Galore> litel: yes, depends on your bios but you can do a network install
[13:04] <geirha> sresu_: If you install the bsd-mailx package, cron should mail you with the output of the script.
[13:04] <toiletduck> netbook doesnt have cd drive, but it does have recovery built in
[13:04] <wyclif> toiletduck: Press "R" when it asks you whether you wanna install Windows
[13:04] <litel> Linux_Galore: Yes I can but how does it works ?
[13:04] <toiletduck> so will try through that.
[13:04] <geirha> sresu_: You can read those mails by running the mail command.
[13:05] <SC-M> how to connect to IRC server by telnet?
[13:05] <wyclif> toiletduck: when you get to the console, if you enter "fixmbr" it will delete GRUB and then yu should be able to boot Win
[13:05] <Linux_Galore> litel: basically you have a boot image file on a ftp server and you point your bios at it
[13:05] <toiletduck> wyclif ive tried that before many times
[13:05] <toiletduck> and it doesnt fix it.
[13:05] <toiletduck> still comes up with grub when i boot
[13:05] <wyclif> toiletduck: but you have built-in recovery, right? on the netbook?
[13:05] <litel> Linux_Galore: oh i see and is it possible do to do from the hdd ?
[13:06] <Linux_Galore> litel: its how old unix servers used to work, no floppies etc, just grab a boot image of a central server
[13:06]  * SC-M shalat dolo
[13:06] <sresu_> usr13: geirha: Yes I tested that last script - gadmin one, its running. cat /etc/crontab - http://pastebin.com/H0uyaEM4
[13:07] <geirha> sresu_: You want it to run every minute from 4 am to 5 am?
[13:07] <toiletduck> ok i googled it
[13:07] <toiletduck> and did what someone said to do
[13:07] <acerB> hey people
[13:07] <toiletduck> but it doesnt remove the option of what to boot to on start up
[13:07] <acerB> just a quick question
[13:07] <sresu_> geirha: That was just set as parameter to see if it atleat works. I would change it if it works
[13:07] <toiletduck> its still asking about ubuntu or win 7
[13:07] <wyclif> toiletduck: can you access a DOS prompt?
[13:08] <john> hey linux galore you sound like u can help me i cant get ubuntu to install on my laptop well reinstall when ever i boot up the cop it goes to the grub menu and nothing works if u go up u can see the rest of what i have been talking about
[13:08] <toiletduck> i did it through dos
[13:08] <toiletduck> fixmbr doesnt fix it
[13:08] <sresu_> geirha: I don't find any mistake in the script nor in crontab. Is it?
[13:08] <Linux_Galore> toiletduck: means the mbr hasnt been reoplaced
[13:08] <acerB>  how do i read or mount .bin images in ubuntu?
[13:08] <geirha> sresu_: Well, either install the bsd-mailx package, or put at the end of the command:    >/tmp/output 2>&1
[13:08] <toiletduck> well Linux_Galore what else would you suggest?
[13:08] <geirha> sresu_: Then look at /tmp/output to see what's wrong.
[13:08] <Jacs512> Hi Team how can I acces this chat using empathy? can anyone guide me
[13:09] <wyclif> toiletduck: have you tried running fdisk/ MBR?
[13:09] <sresu_> geirha: I don't want mail of the ouput.
[13:09] <sresu_> geirha: Hold on
[13:09] <Linux_Galore> toiletduck: usually I replace the mbr from within linux'
[13:09] <litel> Linux_Galore: ok ok thx
[13:09] <toiletduck> do i type fdisk/ mbr into the command?
[13:09] <Linux_Galore> toiletduck: no'
[13:10] <sresu_> geirha: The file/folder /tmp/output doesn't exist
[13:10] <Jacs512> Hi Team how can I acces this chat using empathy? can anyone guide me
[13:10] <wyclif> toiletduck: you'd need to use a boot disk for that, but I forgot you already said this is a netbook =(
[13:10] <geirha> sresu_: * * * * * root /etc/gadmin-rsync/scripts/gadmin-rsync-Ubuntu.sh >/tmp/output 2>&1
[13:10] <bonjoyee> Jacs512: just add your freenode acc to empathy..then "join room"
[13:10] <sresu_> geirha: Oh sorry. Where do you want me to add it
[13:10] <sresu_> Gotcha
[13:11] <geirha> sresu_: Then wait a couple of minutes for cron to detect the new job and run it.
[13:11] <Jacruth> hi guys, may I ask something?
[13:11] <rumpe1> !ask | Jacruth
[13:11] <sresu_> geirha: You want me to add the line you suggested?
[13:11] <toiletduck> yeah but wyclif the netbook has the recovery built into. so i can format and reinstall and stuff like that.
[13:11] <geirha> sresu_: Yes, for testing.
[13:11] <wyclif> toiletduck: there is another way
[13:11] <bonjoyee> Jacs512: also make sure "telepathy-idle" is installed
[13:11] <sresu_> geirha:  * * * * * root /etc/gadmin-rsync/scripts/gadmin-rsync-Ubuntu.sh >/tmp/output 2>&1? Instead of the old ones? There is no time set for it all *
[13:12] <toiletduck> wyclif can you pm me? its so confusing in this channel
[13:12] <wyclif> toiletduck: you can still use GRUB to boot Windows by telling it to load your NTLoader