[11:21] <zetheroo> is there a command which will install all perl modules? ... just wondering ...
[11:22] <histo> henry3: boot to that and use gparted to remove partition and expand your others etc... just make sure you have a backup incase of a failure.
[11:22] <henry3> will that remove anything i have already saved to ubuntu section of hardrive
[11:23] <histo> zetheroo: are they all named similar where you could do apt-get install some-perl-package-*
[11:23] <histo> henry3: Only if there is a failure of some kind. Like a power failure or crash/lockup or if you do something silly in there and remove the wrong partition.
[11:23] <henry3> ok thanks for the help!
[11:24] <histo> henry3: that's why you backup first
[11:24] <zetheroo> histo: unfortunately it would not seem so to me ... the names are very different
[11:25] <RJ_> guys ....was just about to watch a show and head to bed but i have no audio .......un muted all un auto muted the ???aslmixer .....checked audio settings... i have 3 devices but none of them have audio ...any help would be nice :)
[11:28] <histo> zetheroo: then I can't think of a way unless there is a meta package
[11:28] <histo> !sound | RJ_
[11:31] <RJ_> i am using vlc and i troubleshot with no luck everything seems to be there...hummmm....still reading ;)
[11:31] <TheGrey> o/ I keep getting Playback open error: -16,Device or resource busy error when trying to do a speaker test..my alsamixer is turned up to full.. Why is my device busy?
[11:32] <zetheroo> arg, I cannot believe that 12.04 is still using Qemu 1.0 ....
[11:33] <zetheroo> this means Ubuntu will not be replacing Debian on our KVM servers anytime soon :P
[11:33] <devsoul> a
[11:35] <histo> zetheroo: What?
[11:36] <zetheroo> histo :  ?
[11:36] <histo> zetheroo: your qemu comment?
[11:36] <histo> zetheroo: What do you mean ubuntu is still using qemu
[11:36] <zetheroo> histo: Qemu 1.0
[11:37] <zetheroo> histo: it's a very old version
[11:37] <histo> zetheroo: and you think debian has a newer version?
[11:38] <zetheroo> histo, I know it has ... we are using Qemu 1.1.2  ...
[11:38] <scribble> Hi sorry to interrupt, I have this message from trying to use a kernel on a VirtualBox  - -> Specify KERN_DIR=<directory> and run Make again.
[11:38] <histo> !backports | zetheroo
[11:38] <scribble> is that suppose to go in  -- --> /etc/profile
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> !info qemu
[11:39] <zetheroo> what about this: https://launchpad.net/~jacob/+archive/virtualisation/+build/3778829
[11:40] <zetheroo> histo, can I just do a upgrade-distro on this machine?
[11:41] <zetheroo> to get it to quantal
[11:41] <cfhowlett> zetheroo, dist-release ...
[11:41] <zetheroo> ?
[11:41] <histo> zetheroo: I wouldn't run quantal ona  server though
[11:41] <histo> I would just backport qemu
[11:42] <histo> zetheroo: nvm it's not in backports
[11:42] <zetheroo> doh - ok
[11:43] <RJ_> tried to see install sound modules with ....       find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd ...........no such file or directory ...................tried   sudo aplay -1 ...........aplay invalid option
[11:43] <histo> zetheroo: you could always build the current version yourself which is 1.4.0  or 1.2.0 from their site.
[11:43] <histo> RJ_: -l  not -1
[11:43] <histo> RJ_: lowercase L
[11:44] <RJ_> k thanks will try
[11:45] <RJ_> it shows 3 devices which i tried all 3...still no sound
[11:45] <silvan_> test
[11:45] <zetheroo> pity, was hoping to move to Ubuntu :(
[11:45] <silvan_> Works :)
[11:46] <dydzEz2> whats a good tool to just monitor overall network traffic through the terminal on ubuntu
[11:46] <dydzEz2> like tells me what ports i just opened to go to a certain site or somethin
[11:47] <Mayazcherquoi> Hey guys. Just wondering, how does the most recent Ubuntu release compares with Windows 7 & 8 battery/power management?
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> dydzEz2  lsof or so
[11:47] <zetheroo> histo: would you not recommend this?  https://launchpad.net/~jacob/+archive/virtualisation/+build/3778829
[11:48] <MonkeyDust> dydzEz2  try lsof -i
[11:49] <dydzEz2> you gotta keep typing lsof -i
[11:49] <dydzEz2> anything good thats like real time
[11:53] <RJ_> everything that seemed relevent worked except -----   find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd   ----- and when i tried to do the apt-get it says ...unable to get package
[11:53] <MoL0ToV> http://pastebin.ca/2313123 how i can find in what package are include all these libs? so i can install missed (required) packages?
[11:54] <MonkeyDust> dydzEz2  in a terminal, type apt-cache show snort -- is it useful?
[11:55] <vnc786> i am cloning sda to sdb with dd but can some tell me about bs=??? shuld i keep or not ??
[11:55] <zetheroo> what is a nice clean command for rebooting ?
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  sudo shutdown -r now
[11:56] <|nv|s|b|e> sudo reboot
[11:56] <DJones> zetheroo: sudo reboot ?
[11:56] <safridzal> reboot
[11:56] <safridzal> ah, ping time.. slow inet..
[11:56] <dydzEz2> yeah snorts actually quite good
[11:56] <zetheroo> hehe .. ok ... reboot and shutdown -r now ... are they the same?
[11:58] <safridzal> zetheroo: man reboot
[11:58] <safridzal> there's a lot to read there :D
[11:58] <zetheroo> heh
[11:58] <safridzal> and man shutdown
[11:59] <theperfectpunk> hello
[11:59] <theperfectpunk> i have errors while compiling drivers
[11:59] <theperfectpunk> http://pastebin.com/eGiwPVwj
[11:59] <theperfectpunk> can anyone help?
[11:59] <vnc786> any help?? on dd
[12:00] <zetheroo> thing is that when I do 'sudo shutdown -r now' on this system it shutsdown but then does not boot up again .. just remains powered on with flans blowing
[12:00] <dr_willis> installed the build-essential package? Installed the proper headers? ;) 2 common  issues theperfectpunk
[12:00] <dr_willis> vnc786:  use a bs= size yes....
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  the -r means reboot
[12:00] <Guest70747> someone known how crack use bt4??
[12:00] <dr_willis> unless you want really really really slow speeds
[12:00] <MonkeyDust> Guest70747  type /join #backtrack-linux
[12:00] <theperfectpunk> i'll check
[12:00] <dr_willis> Guest70747: better to spend your time learning some real skills.
[12:01] <vnc786> dr_willis: bs=1M what this will do instead of bs=4M
[12:01] <cfhowlett> Guest70400, also BT is not supported here ...
[12:01] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: yes, but the system does not reboot ... it shutsdown and then remains powered on but does not boot back up ... I have to power it off manually and back on again
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  try sudo init 6
[12:02] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: tried that before already ... which is why I was asking for another way to do it
[12:03] <theperfectpunk> i had installed the headers using sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-generic
[12:03] <dr_willis> !headers
[12:03] <tata_> hey i have a problem my ubuntu-server tell me add-apt-repository: command not found but I have the package python-software-properties Installs?
[12:04] <zetheroo> how does one check the version of qemu in Ubuntu?
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> zetheroo  apt-cache policy qemu
[12:04] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, flying fingers on the keyboard!
[12:04] <theperfectpunk> it says already installed
[12:04] <theperfectpunk> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:04] <zetheroo> MonkeyDust: thanks
[12:05] <tata_> qemu:
[12:05] <tata_>   Installiert: (keine)
[12:05] <tata_>   Kandidat:    1.2.0+noroms-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>
[12:05] <tata_>   Versionstabelle:
[12:05] <tata_>      1.2.0+noroms-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> 0
[12:05] <FloodBot1> tata_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:05] <tata_>         500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal-updates/universe i386 Packages
[12:05] <theperfectpunk> dr_willis installed
[12:06] <MonkeyDust> Guest36247  keep it in the channel please
[12:06] <theperfectpunk> ubottu already installed
[12:06] <Guest36247> what
[12:06] <theperfectpunk> any more suggestions?
[12:07] <theperfectpunk> dr_willis?
[12:08] <dr_willis> Not sure what you are compiling exactly. but the headers, and the build-essential package should cover most all you need. Unless you need the actual kernel source tree
[12:15] <Gusteru> hi ! anyone can help me to install sun java please ?
[12:15] <dr_willis> !java
[12:19] <Gusteru> hi ! anyone can help me to install sun java please ??
[12:19] <dr_willis> !java | Gusteru
[12:19] <MonkeyDust> Guest36247  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java#Oracle_.28Sun.29_Java_6
[12:20] <Gusteru> dr_willis:  I want to install Sun Java and not JDK
[12:20] <kingbeast> good morning everyone
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> kingbeast  other timezone
[12:20] <Guest36247> why are you linking me this MonkeyDust Oo
[12:20] <Ben64> Gusteru: you might want to read more
[12:20] <dr_willis> You mean Oracle java?
[12:20] <kingbeast> good day MonkeyDust
[12:20] <dr_willis> and i belive the guides cover all of them
[12:20] <MonkeyDust> Guest36247  wrong tab, it was for Gusteru
[12:20] <Guest36247> oh ok
[12:21] <Gusteru> dr_willis: Sunt Java from www.java.com
[12:21] <dr_willis> Gusteru:  oracle bought sun out some time back.
[12:21] <Ben64> Gusteru: you should really check the link you've been given twice
[12:22] <cfhowlett> kingbeast, greetings
[12:22] <dr_willis> the Iced tea java is in the repos. then theres the official javas from Oracle  you can use.. depending on your needs
[12:22] <Gusteru> dr_willis: thank you !
[12:22] <ivotkl> Good morning everyone.
[12:23] <kingbeast> ivotkl, morning
[12:24] <kingbeast> anyone need some help?
[12:25] <clipper> bitch i trade 10 whips for a spaceship
[12:26] <dr_willis> seems some people are beyond help these days kingbeast  ;)
[12:26] <cfhowlett> clipper, wrong channel ...
[12:26] <kingbeast> dr_willis, would be a good thing!!!
[12:27] <clipper> nope i'm in the right spot, thats just how i say Hi now... u mad O_o
[12:27] <kingbeast> clipper, well then please watch the language
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> clipper invent something appropriate to say hi
[12:28] <clipper> im sorry :( i apologize for my language
[12:28] <cfhowlett> !language|clipper, y
[12:28] <clipper> better?
[12:28] <clipper> i know i knowwwwww i have a poty mouth
[12:29] <clipper> i get ahead of myself
[12:29] <kingbeast> now do you have a quesstion clipper?
[12:29] <clipper> then its like OH SNAPS what just happened here meow
[12:29] <clipper> maybe i do, maybe i dont
[12:29]  * STMelon hmms, was school canceled today?
[12:29] <clipper> maybe you have a question for me is better ?
[12:29] <MonkeyDust> clipper  i guess this is not the channel you want or need
[12:29] <kingbeast> no not really, and maybe you will get help maybe you won't
[12:30] <nearst> #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:30] <safridzal> im listening....
[12:30] <clipper> is everyone like super cereal here or something, i actually did have a random question but figured i would have some fun on my entrance and you guys are acting like im a black guy on voting day
[12:30] <clipper> oh snaps
[12:30] <clipper> there it goes again
[12:30] <DJones> clipper: This channel is for Ubuntu support, not general chat
[12:30] <clipper> Sorry
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> clipper  stop
[12:30] <clipper> Ok question then
[12:31] <superdo> If I want to resize my current ubuntu partition, I have to unmount, but will my system work so?
[12:31] <clipper> Calm down monkey!
[12:31] <cfhowlett> clipper, insincere apology aside, what is your ubuntu question?
[12:31] <clipper> you can demand anything you want, so can I, so you stop
[12:31] <clipper> ok I have an android
[12:31] <clipper> and recently installed ubuntu apps
[12:31] <clipper> are you familiar?
[12:32] <superdo> anybody?
[12:32] <nearst> android use apk . not deb
[12:32] <clipper> yes its an emulator i know this
[12:32] <clipper> im simply asking if anyone here has used these apps on their droids
[12:32] <clipper> as i had questins pertaining to them
[12:32] <clipper> emu, what a silly creature
[12:32] <clipper> gives me a chuckle
[12:33] <cfhowlett> superdo, you want to a live dvd/usb and run gparted from there to resize your hdd
[12:33] <dr_willis> you dont resize a partion/filesystem thats in use superdo
[12:33] <clipper> so?
[12:33] <superdo> thanks guys
[12:34] <dr_willis> If you are using ubuntu in a vm/chroot on android.. you install the debs/package manager as you would a normal install  from what ive seen...
[12:35] <cfhowlett> superdo, have fun, be safe
[12:37] <kingbeast> well just highlight me if needed, I'm going to play some pokerth... :-P
[12:38] <nearst> *play pokerth too. lol
[12:39] <makara> when I mount an iso with archive mounter, what is its path?
[12:40] <nearst> mount
[12:41] <makara> nearst, there's /mnt, but it's empty
[12:42] <screen2342> makara: type "mount" or "cat /proc/mounts" in a terminal
[12:43] <dr_willis> or access its icon with the file manager - and hit ctrl-l to see its path
[12:43] <screen2342> makara: the output of "cat /proc/mounts" should include a line with /dev/loop*
[12:45] <nearst> default mount auto mount place should be on /media
[12:45] <cangrejo> hi
[12:45] <cfhowlett> cangrejo, greetings
[12:46] <makara> dr_willis, ctrl+l gives the address of the iso image
[12:46] <makara> nearst, nothing in /media
[12:46] <raven_> how to split and recombine a 2 gb file into 25 mb pieces?
[12:46] <makara> screen2342, I see many things with mount and cat ...
[12:46] <dr_willis> there should be an entry for the mounted iso at the left side
[12:47] <dr_willis> i just mount the things by hand. ;)
[12:47] <dr_willis> mount | grep loop    may show the proper entry
[12:47] <makara> dr_willis, left side of nautilus. but I need to access from terminal
[12:47] <dr_willis> makara:  so access it from nautilus.. and see what ctrl-l says its path is..
[12:48] <makara> dr_willis, no grep loop
[12:48] <dr_willis> or try the mount | grep loop
[12:48] <nearst> try manual mount
[12:48] <dr_willis> unless the fs archiver gool was using some fuse features.
[12:48] <makara> dr_willis, address is of the iso image
[12:48] <jrib> raven_: look into the "split" command (man split).  Use "cat" to recompose the pieces
[12:48] <dr_willis> and what address is that?
[12:49] <nearst> check on ls -al .gvfs ?
[12:49] <raven_> jrib, ok tnx
[12:49] <makara> dr_willis, archive://file%253A%252F%252F%252Fhome%252Fmar%252FZ6%252FDungeon%252520Keeper%252520Gold%252FDungeonKeeperGold.iso/
[12:49] <makara> :)
[12:49] <dr_willis> so its using a special url then. the archive://
[12:50] <dr_willis> !iso
[12:50] <dr_willis> it should have an entry in .gvfs i belive
[12:51] <makara> screen2342, I've unmounted the iso and mount gives identical output
[12:52] <raven_> what is the command for 7z to split the archive into pieces?
[12:53] <makara> dr_willis, .gvfs, yes
[12:54] <makara> that's it then
[12:55] <screen2342> makara: okay, if it's gvfs i have no idea. i usually mount images by "sudo mount -o loop ..."
[12:56] <dr_willis> if he unmouinted it.. its not  going to be in .gvfs any more. ;)
[12:56] <nearst> screen2342, Archive Mounter mount usually on .gvfs,
[12:56] <makara> dr_willis, ipuditback
[12:57] <dr_willis> i would have allready used the mount command and been done with it by now. ;)
[12:58] <screen2342> nearst: i don't even have gnome installed, just a plain window manager. and i really don't need gui tools to do loop mounts. ymmv.
[12:58] <raven_> what is the command for 7z to split the archive into pieces?
[13:01] <nearst> raven, 7z a -v50M OutputFilename ~/FileFolder
[13:08] <raven_> jrib, is sure cat file* always combines the split files in the right order?
[13:08] <jrib> raven_: you must list them in the right order
[13:09] <raven_> jrib, its aa, ab, ac ..... so its not sure it will be in the right order automatically right?
[13:10] <g16> raven_: * gives alphabetical ordering http://serverfault.com/questions/122737/in-bash-are-wildcard-expansions-guaranteed-to-be-in-order
[13:10] <jrib> raven_: that should get expanded correctly
[13:11] <raven_> jrib, g16 ok sounds good
[13:11] <vnc786> i ran  dd if=/dev/sdb of=/sda bs=1M conv=noerror but now when i am trying to boot it says Disk Read Error
[13:12] <g16> vnc786: should be of=/dev/sda
[13:12] <dr_willis> err you ment /dev/sda right?
[13:12] <dr_willis> ;)
[13:12] <riply> hi all, is there someone here who would be able to help me regarding squid/public proxy? I want to setup a squid proxy accessible via the WAN/www. There are plenty tutorials available, however they all seem to be 'public'. I want to have authentication ie so that when popping in the proxy details into the browser, they are prompted for auth or rejected.
[13:12] <dr_willis> were the 2 hard drives the same size?
[13:12] <vnc786> yes
[13:13] <nearst> riply, http://cpanelforums.net/how-to-install-squid-with-password-authentication-in-ubuntucentosfedoraredhat/
[13:13] <vnc786> dr_willis: sdb(source)=250gb sda(dest)=500gb
[13:14] <dr_willis> see if you can mount the cloned disk.  Ive cloned 8gb usb flash drive installs of ubuntu onto 1+TB internal HDS and booted them befor
[13:14] <dr_willis> used gparted afterwards to resize/use the unallocated space. ;)
[13:14] <riply> nearst, thank you so much man! You're a better googler than I!
[13:15] <vnc786> okay now i have booted systemrescuecd and fdisk -l output says "partition 1 does not start on physical sector boundary" and so on
[13:16] <salaet> Hi !
[13:16] <technojabber> Hi
[13:16] <salaet> anybody knows how can use scp command without sudo
[13:17] <jrib> salaet: why do you need sudo?
[13:17] <vnc786> dr_willis: how can i make it bootable ..?
[13:17] <nearst> sudo -i scp
[13:18] <salaet> because I write a script with python that call scp
[13:18] <technojabber> No
[13:18] <salaet> And the permision i forbid
[13:18] <salaet> is forbid
[13:18] <technojabber> Tech me python please
[13:18] <jrib> salaet: well what are you trying to copy?
[13:18] <jrib> technojabber: #python can help you with that
[13:19] <technojabber> OK thank
[13:19] <zetheroo> I am doing apt-get upgrade but am getting a message like "The following packages have been kept back:" with a list of packages there
[13:20] <zetheroo> why are they being "held back"?
[13:20] <salaet> i'm running django+uwsgi and the uwsgi log  accessible: Permission denied.
[13:20] <salaet> Host key verification failed.
[13:20] <jrib> zetheroo: pastebin.  But it's probably kernel packages and so you need to do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[13:20] <salaet> I change the owner of .pem file and group and I'm becoming crazy with this
[13:20] <jrib> salaet: you keep changing the problem
[13:21] <zetheroo> jrib:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1643747/
[13:21] <vnc786> what shuld i do now ?
[13:21] <zetheroo> jrib: I want to update libvirt
[13:21] <vnc786> should i make image first and than write that image ???
[13:22] <jrib> zetheroo: so what happens when you do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"?
[13:22] <salaet> jrib: it's possible that a service has permissions to run scp?
[13:22] <jrib> salaet: sure, scp is not special
[13:23] <zetheroo> jrib: seems to be working now - thanks
[13:23] <jrib> salaet: you should give more details.  Say exactly what you are calling, how, and as what user.  And pastebin details
[13:25] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:26] <salaet> I'have a server that perform some mathematical calculations with images... when this mathematical calculations finish , save and I need to upload to amazon ec2.If I use sudo scp -i bla bla I don't have any problem , but when the django+uwsgi runs this  commands I have the problem.
[13:26] <jrib> salaet: well what user is scp being run as?
[13:26] <salaet> I think its beacause uwsgi dosnt have permisions to use .pem file
[13:28] <salaet> now like this "scp -i bla bla" and not run if i use "sudo scp -i bla bla" runs good only in command line but in the script it's not posible but i need to introduce the password of sudo
[13:28] <salaet> sorry for my worst english
[13:29] <Zoooooooo> Hi guys! I'm trying to understand how to better setup a cross-compiler toolchain for armhf. When I installed the cross-compiler from the package /usr/arm-.../lib/ folder was created. I may find all the target libraries there which is nice. But I need to have some additional libs (mesa) to compile my app. How can I install armhf development package (mesa-dev) to make sure that it will be placed into this 'safe' folder (usr/arm-..)
[13:29] <screen2342> salaet: the message "Host key verification failed." does not refer to permissions of a file to be copied by scp. looks more like scp/ssh prompted for verifying the host key of the ssh server side, which must be answered with "yes".
[13:30] <rvgate> How do i know if my session is using unity or unity-2d
[13:30] <tafsen> Yo guys. Is it possible to change the color of the border you get when you are running split-screens?
[13:31] <tafsen> *in GNU-Screen
[13:32] <screen2342> salaet: so it's important to know if your python script runs scp as the same user as you run scp interactive
[13:32] <usr13> rvgate: http://askubuntu.com/questions/171853/how-to-change-from-unity-2d-to-3d
[13:32] <salaet> screen2342:thanks
[13:33] <screen2342> salaet: scp/ssh looks for the cached host key in $HOME/.ssh/known_hosts. so it makes a difference which user runs scp/ssh.
[13:34] <salaet> I'm going to investigate the solution with paramiko module.
[13:35] <screen2342> salaet: sorry, i don't know any python
[13:35] <salaet> don't worry ! thanks for your time
[13:40] <DEac-> hi
[13:42] <DEac-> i've a problem while booting with lvm. it doesn't found my root-lv. /boot is a partition on the first hd and my pv is the hole second disc. if i type vgchange -ae and close shell, it boots clean. but i won't enter vgchange -ae on every boot
[13:44] <mehdi> guys im having problem with sound when i volume up the sound just drops off and come up
[13:45] <usr13> mehdi: alsamixer
[13:45] <mehdi> usr13, wat? is that?
[13:46] <ewook> Heyya. I've forgotten what name a binary got that you run to get the linked dependencies of another binary.
[13:47] <ewook> Anyone got a clue?
[13:47] <cracken> #OpsSchool
[13:48] <zetheroo> anyone know how to see the Qemu emulation version?
[13:48] <ikonia> zetheroo: there is only one version installed
[13:48] <ikonia> zetheroo: it will default to the version you are using
[13:48] <zetheroo> ikonia: but there is a command to check the version ... no?
[13:49] <ikonia> zetheroo: look at the package version
[13:50] <mehdi> usr13, i installed but it doest work?
[13:50] <mehdi> usr13, i installed but it doest work
[13:50] <zetheroo> ikona: ok ... I thought there was a command that gave an output like "QEMU emulator version 1.2.1 (qemu-kvm-1.2.0) "
[13:51] <usr13> mehdi: alsamixer doesn't work?
[13:51] <rocket> I'm still trying to solve that problem i have.
[13:51] <usr13> mehdi: You had to install alsamixer? (Should have already been there.)
[13:51] <technojabber> Any one wanna buy my Nokia n800
[13:52] <rocket> Whenever i update, my computer display acts weird, and the OS hangs.
[13:52] <mehdi> usr13, it just install alsamixergui
[13:52] <usr13> mehdi: Why?
[13:52] <mehdi> usr13, i thought it was the same as u said
[13:54] <ewook> ldd
[13:55] <vsms01> hi I have a production problem with reprepro database. can someone help?
[13:58] <mehdi> can sb tell me about this config http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=58b61231bd0bfa4a90bbc2f442d917ab6abc040f  while i volume up music comes and goes
[14:00] <anne_> hey, I am fixing my mums computer. The printer seems to have gone a bit bonkers - I think I need to perge the print queue using the comand line, can anyone help?
[14:01] <anne_> she is on kubuntu
[14:02] <technojabber> What is a shell
[14:03] <nearst> !shell | technojabber
[14:03] <haitham__> this picture problem http://imagebin.org/246544
[14:03] <theseus> does anyone have the problem where the top of their screen get pixelated or turns black when typing or left alone for a while?
[14:03] <ikonia> haitham__: why is that a problem ?
[14:04] <haitham__> time any program staillion
[14:04] <DJones> haitham__: If you're trying to click the ok button, you need to use the tab key and then the enter key to continue
[14:04] <haitham__> install
[14:04] <anne_> ah
[14:05] <anne_> not for me? ikonia the problem is that the queue is full of this same job over and over again, you cant delete them, it just crashes the printer applet
[14:05] <anne_> not sure what to do
[14:05] <haitham__> ok
[14:06] <haitham__> thank
[14:06] <nearst> sudo system-config-printer-applet ?
[14:07] <anne_> nearst and what will that do?
[14:08] <pdiddles03> Hey everone, I need some help.  I installed ubuntu on my macbook pro, so now my macbook is a triple boot machine  but now, after rebuild the mbr, windows just sits at the starting windows screen
[14:08] <nearst> sudo system-config-printer --show-jobs
[14:09] <marktaff> HI guys
[14:09] <traveller`> hello
[14:09] <anne_> nearst, comand not found :/
[14:09] <traveller`> from where this chat room ?
[14:09] <DJones> traveller`: This is the Ubuntu support channel
[14:10] <traveller`> is it room for chatting or for what
[14:10] <traveller`> what that mean what ubunto mean ?
[14:10] <DJones> !ubuntu | traveller`
[14:10] <anne_> nearst, still comand not found :S
[14:10] <OliveiraBorges> traveller` where are you from ?
[14:10] <marktaff> I dist-upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04, but am having errors with openssh-server not configuring properly after being installed.  Any ideas that might help?  Thanks.  See: http://paste.kde.org/670256/
[14:10] <nearst> sudo system-config-printer --debug
[14:10] <traveller`> good
[14:11] <traveller`> where can  i make chatting in this server in which room?
[14:11] <anne_> nearst, system-config-printer: command not found
[14:12] <nearst> usually default ubuntu installation should have that
[14:12] <DJones> !alis | traveller`: I would suggest #defocus that is a general chat channel, or you can use the service bot to search for a channel,
[14:12] <technojabber> Do you have the commands line for zorin is 6
[14:13] <DJones> !zorin | technojabber
[14:13] <technojabber> Zorin is 6
[14:13] <technojabber> 0s 6
[14:13] <DJones> technojabber: Sorry, I thought there was a factoid about zorin, its not supported here, I think they've got their own support channel mentioned on their website
[14:14] <technojabber> Do you know it
[14:14] <DJones> I don't, have a look at their website, it should tell you there
[14:15] <Go-Sub> somebody have ubuntu 12.10 and xchat with ssl ?
[14:16] <Go-Sub> I need a secure chat channel.
[14:16] <nearst> Go-Sub, +Z
[14:17] <Go-Sub> +Z
[14:17] <nearst> Go-Sub, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto
[14:19] <Francuz> Hey everyone, I'm having a little problem with a cronjob I'm trying to set :
[14:19] <Francuz> i'm trying to turn on a program everytime it gets shut down by using onscheduler.sh and putting it in crontab.
[14:19] <Francuz> When i run it manually from /root/ it does not work, when i run it manually from /root/bet / it works, when I run it from crontab it does not work, (even if I add "cd /root/bet/" at the begining of the onscheduler.sh script)
[14:19] <Francuz> crontab : http://www.pastebin.ca/2313408
[14:19] <Francuz> onscheduler.sh : http://www.pastebin.ca/2313409
[14:19] <FloodBot1> Francuz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:19] <jrib> Francuz: your slashes are backwards and "sh" is redundant
[14:22] <jrib> Francuz: also this script seems very fragile.  What happens if you start running other java programs?
[14:22] <SolarisBoy> indeed...
[14:23] <SolarisBoy> a better way to test is not by empty string but by return code as well like grep -q returns 0 if found but 1 if not - in your case you may catch your own grep line though.
[14:23] <Francuz> it works with other java programs, the problem is probably due to the fact that the java is using mostly relative path and no absolute path, but as i am not the one who wrote the java, I don't know how to change it,
[14:23] <YokoBR> hi dudes
[14:24] <Francuz> ok, thanks for the grep -q option, what do you mean by fragile ? i'm pretty new at writing scripts so i do not have the "basic reflexes",
[14:24] <YokoBR> please, i have a hybrid apu/gpu, a HP G42, both AMD. I just can't enable the discrete one.
[14:25] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: thers a lot of ways that script will go wrong -
[14:25] <jrib> Francuz: I'd go to #bash, explain what your actual goal is, and ask for best practices.  And SolarisBoy might have some suggestions here too of course
[14:26] <SolarisBoy> jrib: good point - i'd say other than your code which you should check if it works it works, ensure it is executable, put a sheabang line at top and take the redundant things jrib pointed out the crontab, ensure its in roots crontab if you need root to run it as well
[14:26] <SolarisBoy> thats it =)
[14:26] <SolarisBoy> + redirect 2>&1 somewhere to log the run and you'll be fine eventually - sorry for the spam afterthough
[14:27] <technojabber> When i click on update on zorin os 6 it was puting Ubuntu 11.10 on my system then my computer would not boot so I had to reinstall zorin
[14:27] <Francuz> i'm in root's crontab,
[14:28] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: you can pm me if you want to avoid cluttering the room i have some suggestions for you though
[14:28] <Physicist> how send a text to you hekp me?
[14:29] <jrib> SolarisBoy: it's pretty quiet here and others might be interested :)
[14:29] <SolarisBoy> cool - didn't want to impose or anything
[14:29] <Noctis_> I installed Ubuntu as a second OS and now I cannot reach Win7. This was probably caused by the fact that while installing I first formated the partition which contained Win XP (I had Win Xp and & in dualboot before installing Ubuntu, it was installed first and XP - now Ubuntu partition is boot partition). and its bootloader.  Most of the grub guides are outdated, the new ones advice using grub customiser, which I installed but when I
[14:30] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: so i would say number one lets ensure your script a) runs manually b) has a shebang line c) is executable
[14:30] <Noctis_> password and does nothing afterwards. Can somebody advise?
[14:30] <technojabber> The ubuntu GUI would not load on my old PC with 735 of ram
[14:30] <jrib> Noctis_: can you get to ubuntu now?  Through grub?
[14:30] <Francuz> the script is chmod 777
[14:31] <jrib> !who | Francuz
[14:31] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: thats overkill you can do chmod u+x to the file and ensure it is owned properly in the future thats just allowing anyone to do anything to the file they want -
[14:31] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: but it is executable so fine -
[14:32] <Noctis_> Well yes, I'm using it now.
[14:32] <Physicist> Anybody could say, how can I fix that error? - locale.Error: unsupported locale setting
[14:32] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: ok the first thing in your script should be the shebang line if you intend for other things to run it like cron without specifically saying which shell to use - #!/bin/sh should the first line, in your case it's not so you can fix that quickly?
[14:33] <Francuz> be back in a minute with it changed,
[14:33] <SolarisBoy> k
[14:34] <Noctis_> I mean it loads and works fine, I just can't get to Win 7. The partition is there, I can see it mounted. It is just the grub that doesn't see it.
[14:34] <Physicist> Anybody could say, how can I fix that error? -> locale.Error: unsupported locale setting
[14:35] <Blkrdo> I am trying to install amd driver using the root shell in recovery mode but i am geting a permission denied,how to do it?
[14:35] <SolarisBoy> Physicist: do you have something incorrect in /etc/locale.conf?
[14:35] <SolarisBoy> Physicist: when do you get the error?
[14:36] <Francuz> !SolarisBoy dont, see any changes, (not working with cron, still working normally)
[14:36] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: thats fine you have added the line correct?
[14:37] <Francuz> !SolarisBoy => I just have to add "!/bin/sh" ?
[14:37] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: no on line 1 of the script you need to add exactly this (inside qoutes) "#!/bin/sh"
[14:38] <SolarisBoy> sorry if that was confusing, you need to add whats inside the quotes
[14:39] <Francuz> done, but as it has a # at the begining isn't it worthless? (or #! is a special command I don't know about )
[14:39] <Physicist_> SolarisBoy: I do not know if exist any error in the referenced file system. I get when use the terminal for: update, upgrade, installation...
[14:39] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: correct #! has a special meaning when at the top of your shell files
[14:40] <Francuz> what is it (every new knowlage is good to have )
[14:40] <Francuz> ?
[14:41] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: it means "this script should be run under this interpeter"
[14:41] <genii-around> The "shebang"
[14:41] <learningLinux> My start menu pops up everytime I turn on my computer???   How to stop it?
[14:41] <Physicist_> SolarisBoy: I do not know if exist any error in the referenced file system. I get when use the terminal to: update, upgrade, installation...
[14:42] <SolarisBoy> Physicist_: got it - what locale were you looking to have installed English/UTF-8?
[14:42] <learningLinux> Also, I get the system program problem bug going.. can someone help me solve it?
[14:43] <learningLinux> small system program problem detected window comes up shortly after getting to the desktop
[14:43] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: ok once you have that fixed with the proper shebang line - try to run it again, but this time, this time you should run it like this "./your_script >/tmp/error.log 2>&1"
[14:44] <berdario> Hello, is anybody here knowledgeable about udev? I'm trying to understand what exactly is the kernel name of a device
[14:44] <SolarisBoy> berdario: which device?
[14:44] <Francuz> so I have to run it manually or from the crontab with this command ? and what does it do?
[14:44] <berdario> SolarisBoy: a ZTE usb 3gmodem
[14:45] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: this command runs your script but redirects any error/output to a file under /tmp/
[14:45] <berdario> SolarisBoy: I read this: "%k evaluates to the kernel name for the device, e.g. "sda3" for a device that would (by default) appear at /dev/sda3"
[14:45] <SolarisBoy> berdario: i assume you have the /sys device name?
[14:45] <SolarisBoy> berdario: correct
[14:45] <Physicist_> SolarisBoy: I do not understand. I am in Brazil and The locale is configured as São Paulo..
[14:45] <SolarisBoy> berdario: type sudo udevadm monitor and plug in and out your modem
[14:45] <genii-around> berdario: Almost all  those get assigned a tty device like /dev/ttyUSB0  or such
[14:46] <SolarisBoy> yea what genii-around said is also right
[14:46] <SolarisBoy> i think it already has a udev rule thats doing that -
[14:46] <phunyguy> I know regular Ubuntu has system-wide proxy capability, but I am on Kubuntu, and I cannot for the life of me find any similar setup to make this happen.  I am on a very restricted network at work, but they have proxies set up for everything.  How can I make Kubuntu use a http and socks proxy for everything? Thanks.
[14:46] <berdario> SolarisBoy: ok, how come if I connect an usb mass storage, and I do sudo udevadm info --name=/dev/bus/usb/002/037 --attribute-walk (with the usb storage on bus2 and device37) "sdb" is nowhere to be foun?
[14:46] <SolarisBoy> sd* names are dynamic
[14:47] <berdario> because apparently, the kernel name for my modem is "5-1"
[14:47] <SolarisBoy> if your looking specifically for one in a staatic manner you may be faulted
[14:47] <berdario> SolarisBoy: ok, so that line I pasted before
[14:47] <berdario> is outdated?
[14:47] <SolarisBoy> you should find a more stable attribute to walk
[14:47] <Francuz> when starting it manually with this command error.log is unchange(still empty),
[14:47] <SolarisBoy> it probably has a serial id you can use or such which is more unique
[14:48] <berdario> ok, but just to be explicit
[14:48] <berdario> this: "%k evaluates to the kernel name for the device, e.g. "sda3" for a device that would (by default) appear at /dev/sda3"
[14:48] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: did the command work? that may indicate it did - what is the result of your script?
[14:48] <SolarisBoy> berdario: thats correct
[14:48] <berdario> isn't true anymore, when talking about the names... because now they're setted dinamically?
[14:48] <Francuz> it worked, the java turned on, ad usual when doing it manually, I'm putting this command in cron now,
[14:49] <SolarisBoy> berdario: it is true
[14:49] <SolarisBoy> berdario: is that whats returned from your modem is what your saying?
[14:49] <Physicist_> SolarisBoy: I do not understand. I am in Brazil and The locale is configured as São Paulo.. Any problem with that?
[14:50] <SolarisBoy> Physicist_: you most likely just need to map that to a actual local name int he expected format - not sure what that is for Sao-Paulo =)
[14:50] <berdario> SolarisBoy: not quite, the kernel name is used as an argument in a udev rule
[14:50] <SolarisBoy> you may want to start with en_US.UTF-8 until you get it figured Physicist_
[14:50] <SolarisBoy> berdario: got you
[14:50] <berdario> SolarisBoy: so, if it's true... udevadm info DOESN'T return the kernel name, is this correct?
[14:51] <SolarisBoy> udevadm returns both kernel and sys class names
[14:51] <SolarisBoy> it really depends on the argument fed after that command what your viewing
[14:51] <jim_ec2> how do you disable services with the new services interface?
[14:51] <Physicist_> SolarisBoy: Thank you.
[14:52] <SolarisBoy> Francuz: ok there are other things in your script i would fix however but as mentioned the shebang was likely the issue
[14:52] <SolarisBoy> *showstopping issue
[14:53] <ankur> hey
[14:53] <ankur> i am using iball 3.5g dongle to connect to the internet in windows 8
[14:53] <ankur> but
[14:54] <ankur> i want to use that dongle in ubuntu
[14:54] <ankur> can any one please help me
[14:54] <ankur> how can use that modem in ubuntu
[14:54] <ankur> i have no idea
[14:55] <mahesh> ankur : Boot in to Ubuntu and connect the modem in to USB port
[14:55] <ankur> mahesh but how to configure it
[14:55] <ankur> with ubuntu
[14:56] <ankur> in windows i first install the driver of the dongle
[14:56] <mahesh> ankur : you will have to configure the internet connection manually
[14:56] <ohmage> hey guys, just a quick question, 12.10 is supposed to be UEFI Secure boot enabled yet when i enable secure boot and put the disc in it tells me that the cd drive is disabled under the current boot settings? any ideas as to why this happens. i thought that 12.10 was supposed to have the signed efi bootable files in
[14:56] <ohmage> thanks
[14:56] <ankur> and then connect using that driver
[14:56] <ankur> from where
[14:56] <ankur> mahesh
[14:57] <ohmage> is there something specific i should be doing before hand for secure boot to allow the disk to boot from cd rom
[14:57] <mahesh> you can see the network connection icon on right corner
[14:57] <ankur> yaa
[14:57] <ankur> then??
[14:58] <ankur> edit connection and then mobile broadband??
[14:58] <mahesh> ankur: go to manage connections
[14:58] <mahesh> ankur: configure in Mobile Broadband
[14:58] <ankur> there is a option of "edit connection"
[14:59] <ankur> okkkk
[14:59] <mahesh> "add"
[14:59] <phunyguy> !enter | ankur, mahesh
[15:00] <ankur> how can i connect to this profile when i plugin my dongle ...there is no connect buttton
[15:01] <ohmage> hey guys, just a quick question, 12.10 is supposed to be UEFI Secure boot enabled yet when i enable secure boot and put the disc in it tells me that the cd drive is disabled under the current boot settings? any ideas as to why this happens. i thought that 12.10 was supposed to have the signed efi bootable files in
[15:03] <airos> hello everyone
[15:03] <airos> I need help
[15:03] <phunyguy> !ask | airos
[15:03] <iron> salut
[15:03] <ohmage> hey guys, just a quick question, 12.10 is supposed to be UEFI Secure boot enabled yet when i enable secure boot and put the disc in it tells me that the cd drive is disabled under the current boot settings? any ideas as to why this happens. i thought that 12.10 was supposed to have the signed efi bootable files in
[15:03] <phunyguy> !patience | ohmage
[15:04] <ohmage> sowwie
[15:04] <phunyguy> don't be sorry, just fix it.  :)
[15:05] <ohmage> being sorry is part of fixing a mistake
[15:05] <ankur> hey thanksss dude ...i have connected to internet using my dongle
[15:06] <ohmage> ;) thing is i know i can just disable secure boot and boot from cd anyway, but as 12.10 is advertised as uefi secure boot enabled i thought id give it a go but it seems my bios disables the cd rom on secure boot
[15:06] <ankur> thanxs a lot mahesh
[15:06] <airos> So I have to perform vulnerability detection improvment in openvas, and the goal is to recognize when php5 package is an ubuntu one (like PHP/5.2.4-2ubuntu5.10 instead of PHP/5.2.4).
[15:06] <airos> And I need to find a web site or somethign like that where I can update my database of security good package
[15:07] <airos> OR a web site where I put my package version and I get all the vulnerabilities know on it
[15:07] <phunyguy> !enter | airos
[15:08] <airos> I have found only this one: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php5/ and I wont to know if someone know another site
[15:08] <airos> sorry for the multiple lines
[15:13] <ankur> i want to install a package from terminal so i went to that directory from terminal and type the command "./configure" it generated some output and then i typed the second command "make" but it shows "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop." this massege i dont know what dows it means and what should i do to install my package
[15:13] <LaserShark> ankur: what is the package
[15:13] <ankur> wine
[15:13] <LaserShark> ankur: just do in terminal
[15:14] <LaserShark> ankur: "sudo apt-get install wine", you shouldn't have to configure and make it
[15:14] <ankur> i am doing it in terminal
[15:14] <LaserShark> ankur: did you do "sudo apt-get install wine" in terminal?
[15:14] <LaserShark> (without the quotes)
[15:15] <ankur> i am doing this right now but i want to know that if i have a package sooo how can i install that package on my own
[15:15] <LaserShark> ankur: well, normally ./configure && make && make install does the trick with most packages, i don't know why make would be failing
[15:16] <LaserShark> ankur: in terminal, do "ls"
[15:16] <ankur> yaa i also read the same commands and procedure in an article but still i am having this problm
[15:17] <LaserShark> and post it in pastebin
[15:17] <LaserShark> and give me a link
[15:17] <ankur> what is pastebin
[15:18] <savagecroc> sysctl -w kernel.shmmax=17179869184 << when does this take effect, immediatly or do i have to reboot?
[15:18] <LaserShark> ankur, go to http://pastebin.com/
[15:18] <LaserShark> and post the output there
[15:18] <ankur> okkk....wait for a while
[15:18] <LaserShark> ok
[15:20] <ankur> LaserShark: http://pastebin.com/Qb7VyUfC
[15:20] <LaserShark> ankur, ok i see the problem
[15:21] <LaserShark> "Makefile.in" should be just "Makefile"
[15:21] <LaserShark> "mv Makefile.in Makefile"
[15:21] <heywood> LaserShark: shouldn't ankur try autoconf to create the makefile?
[15:21] <ankur> k
[15:21] <LaserShark> heywood: i'm just assuming it's something stupid
[15:22] <LaserShark> ankur, don't try that yet
[15:22] <ankur> ok
[15:22] <LaserShark> i'm pretty newish to linux, but shouldn't ./configure create the makefile
[15:22] <elena-IK> Problem with compiz keybindings: If I bind anything to <anyModifier>+asciicircum, that keybinding stops working after reboot. If I unset it and set it again, it works again, until reboot. dr_willis_ asked if this happens for all users: to check I created a second user and disabled autologin. Now the keybinding worked fine for _both_ users. I reenabled autologin for my main user, the keybinding didn't work. I enabled autologin for the second user, the keyb
[15:22] <elena-IK> inding didn't work. If after autologin I logout and login again, the keybinding works. Then I disabled autologin again, and again it worked fine for both users. Any ideas?
[15:22] <Francuz> if anyone wanted to see the solved problem => http://paste.ubuntu.com/1644305/
[15:22] <dydzEz2> anyone know some good terminal based programs that are just good for monitoring network traffic
[15:23] <Kireji> 64;1;2;6;9;15;18;21;22c/wc
[15:23] <dydzEz2> or even computer hardware
[15:23] <ankur> may i now able to install the package with tha "./configure,make and make install" command
[15:23] <LaserShark> ankur, just a sec
[15:24] <LaserShark> ankur: try "make depend"
[15:24] <ankur> k
[15:24] <LaserShark> ankur: it's listed here: http://www.winehq.org/docs/wineusr-guide/installing-wine-source
[15:24] <RFleming> Morning
[15:25] <ankur> now by "make depend " this output is generated "Makefile:40: *** missing separator.  Stop."
[15:25] <ikonia> ankur: what ar eyou doing ?
[15:25] <RFleming> What's the name of the program that takes a picture using the webcam during install?
[15:25] <RFleming> is that Cheesy?
[15:25] <LaserShark> ikonia, trying to build wine
[15:25] <ikonia> why ?
[15:25] <LaserShark> ikonia, i told him to use apt-get
[15:26] <LaserShark> ikonia, and he did, but now he wants to build wine as well
[15:26] <heywood> considering fail2ban, sshguard, and denyhosts for protecting my ssh server. does each one of those do something the other two don't? or is installing all three redundant?
[15:26] <ikonia> why ?
[15:26] <LaserShark> ikonia, i haven't a clue
[15:26] <ankur> hey it all about of my knowledge
[15:26] <ikonia> what knowledge ?
[15:26] <ikonia> why are you doing this /
[15:27] <ankur> i am installing wine right now by apt-get install command
[15:27] <RFleming> heywood, used to use fail2ban
[15:27] <ankur> but
[15:27] <RFleming> heywood, but realized better firewall rules work better.
[15:27] <ankur> still i want to know that if ever i have a package then how can i install it
[15:28] <ikonia> ankur: you don't want to do this
[15:28] <ikonia> ankur: each package is different that works different at build tine
[15:28] <ikonia> time
[15:28] <craigbass1976> I'm about to install ubuntu for a fellow who is used to Vista.  I will no be able to support him very well.  Which desktop (I can monkey with XFCE, but was hoping to avoid the monkeying part) acts most like xp/vista/win7 ?
[15:28] <RFleming> heywood, I secured up my SSH server by disallowing the typing of passwords.  Authentication is key-based only.
[15:28] <heywood> RFleming: it's a remote server that i only ssh into every once in a (rare) while. i like one (or more) of those b/c they can dynamicaly adjust the FW rules (well, at least hosts.deny).
[15:28] <ikonia> wine is not something you should be trying to build unless you have a valid reason
[15:28] <heywood> RFleming: PW auth already disabled. ssh keys only.
[15:29] <atari314> Hello, I did a minimal install (minimal-CD) of Ubuntu 12.10. Afterwards I installed xserver-xorg and xserver-xorg-video-intel. But while testing 3d rending the glxgears program returns libGL error: failed to load driver: i915. Any ideas about this?
[15:29] <RFleming> heywood, you on a static IP address, or posess the ability to vpn into the network the box is on, or is this truly a public box?
[15:29] <ankur> ikonia: apt-get needs internet connection for the installation but what can i do when i dont have a internet connection ???
[15:29] <ikonia> ankur: nothing, as you can't download the source if you don't have an internet connection
[15:30] <ikonia> ankur: if you don't have an internet connection, you are stuck for any form of packages, and compiling does not get around that
[15:30] <philinux> craigbass1976: let him try a live usb. ubuntu and kubuntu
[15:30] <heywood> RFleming: box is a server at my family's home. (long story, but there's a valid reason it has to be there, not at my own place or co-located.)
[15:30] <craigbass1976> Any of the tutorials I see are old
[15:30] <genii-around> !offline
[15:31] <heywood> RFleming: it has a static IP from their ISP AFAIK, but every once in a while that IP changes (i think the last time was after a power failure).
[15:31] <heywood> RFleming: or when the cable modem reboots.
[15:31] <ankur> so there is no way to download the software at once and keep that setup in a pendrive and install it when ever i need it
[15:31] <ikonia> ankur: check the link ubottu just gave you
[15:31] <heywood> RFleming: guess i could try to set up dynDNS or something. but for now i'm treating it as a public box.
[15:32] <jpds> ankur: There is, apt-get install -d <package name> and look in /var/cache/apt/archives/ .
[15:32] <ankur> sory,,,,but i missed it
[15:32] <craigbass1976> philinux, he's going to be on his own.  I'm wondering though, with browsing the internet being his primary activity, if he could deal with Unity.  He doesn't have a smart phone, so he's not really used to that type of intercface at all.
[15:32] <xeviox> hi guys, how can I mark a self created package as "security update" so it will be updated automatically by the package manager?
[15:33] <ankur> k....i get it ...thanxxx for the support
[15:33] <Helmuthonian> Hi I have a script.sh that opens a java program. So I start this script in terminal. How can I put the current location of the terminal in my shell script.
[15:33] <jpds> xeviox: I don't believe you can.
[15:33] <heywood> RFleming: as for VPN, i suppose i could do it, but the box is the only server on the LAN side of the home network. it runs 12.04.1 LTS. i'd been advised (here and elsewhere) that ssh is much more lightweight than setting up a full-blown VPN.
[15:33] <jpds> xeviox: Also, just because it's a security update, doesn't mean that every client is set to update like that.
[15:33] <philinux> craigbass1976: all he has to do is click the firefox icon
[15:34] <jpds> heywood: openvpn isn't that heavyweight...
[15:34] <ankur> hey  can i login as a root
[15:34] <philinux> craigbass1976: you could unlock from the launcher any he doesn't need
[15:34] <jpds> !root | ankur
[15:34] <xeviox> jpds: no I run a server instance of Ubuntu that gets packages of a self hosted repository. The server is set up with the option "install security updates automatically". No I want to mark an updated package (self created) as security update so that it gets installed automatically
[15:35] <heywood> jpds: ok, will take a look. but ssh from commandline (possibly with X forwarding) already does everything i need. is there some other reason to use openvpn instead?
[15:35] <craigbass1976> philinux, and there's a way to tone stuff down right?  This is an older Toshiba laptop.
[15:35] <Eagleman> I am unable to connect from the outside with my current iptables, i have no clue what is wrong:  http://pastebin.com/ynyxHPvm   simply reloading the exact same rules will solve the problem for a few hours but then it starts over
[15:35]  * fully_human thinks whoever came up with that root quote is a genius!
[15:35] <philinux> craigbass1976: what are the specs
[15:35] <jpds> heywood: In case of IP changes?
[15:36] <ankur> soo when ever i run a command which needs the root privilages i should mention "sudo" before the command again and again and type the password after that
[15:36] <ankur> ??
[15:36] <craigbass1976> philinux, I don't know yet.  It just landed in my lap.  Stand by a minute.
[15:36] <jpds> ankur: Yes, and it caches the password for a few minutes.
[15:36] <ankur> k
[15:37] <heywood> jpds: ok, but the client on the remote end still needs to know where to connect to, right? i assume that would be via dyndns or some such...
[15:37] <RFleming> heywood, the reasons I suggested that is because what you're looking for is more a rate limiter than anything else.
[15:37] <theperfectpunk> hey escott :-)
[15:37] <jpds> heywood: Oh, I thought the home server would be a vpn client too and you'd have a central server somewhere. Sorry - misread.
[15:37] <theperfectpunk> how are you?
[15:37] <RFleming> you don't want that.  You want to be able to guarantee secure access to the box 100% of the time (when it's running).
[15:37] <heywood> jpds: no prob.
[15:38] <theperfectpunk> escott i couldn't set up bluetooth
[15:38] <escott> theperfectpunk, i dont know much about bluetooth
[15:38] <theperfectpunk> won't turn on
[15:38] <theperfectpunk> do you know anyone here who does?
[15:39] <Eagleman> I am unable to connect from the outside with my current iptables, i have no clue what is wrong:  http://pastebin.com/ynyxHPvm   simply reloading the exact same rules will solve the problem for a few hours but then it starts over
[15:39] <heywood> RFleming: that's about right. i'm not worried about someone breaking my ssh auth keys -- rather someone either DOSing the machine by hammering it, or compromising it via some (as-yet unknown) bug in ssh or something.
[15:39] <theperfectpunk> bluetooth not turning on
[15:39] <theperfectpunk> anyone help
[15:39] <theperfectpunk> someone
[15:39] <theperfectpunk> ralink rt3290
[15:39] <ikonia> Eagleman: drop your rules totally and run for a few hours see if the problem comes back
[15:40] <miebster_atwork> is 13.04 stable yet?
[15:40] <heywood> RFleming: from what i read in the manpages, all three (sshguard, fail2ban, denyhosts) do roughly what i want -- just trying to understand what the overlap / redundancy is.
[15:40] <theperfectpunk> 12.10 isn't completely stable
[15:40] <bazhang> !helpme | theperfectpunk
[15:40] <miebster_atwork> what is stable?
[15:40] <bazhang> miebster_atwork, no it's not, discussion in #ubuntu+1
[15:40] <theperfectpunk> bazhang?
[15:41] <bazhang> miebster_atwork, the latest is 12.10
[15:41] <Touhou11> miebster_atwork: Debian is quite stable
[15:41] <Eagleman> ikonia, it wont
[15:41] <bazhang> Touhou11, thats not helpful
[15:41] <ikonia> Eagleman: it won't what ?
[15:41] <theperfectpunk> bluetooth rt3290 anyone>
[15:41] <theperfectpunk> ?
[15:41] <theperfectpunk> not working
[15:41] <theperfectpunk> not turning on
[15:41] <theperfectpunk> !helpme
[15:41] <xangua> ...
[15:41] <bazhang> theperfectpunk, be patient, stop repeating
[15:42] <Eagleman> ikonia, the problem wont come back, it started when i started using iptables. But the problem is that i dont see what's wrong with my current set of rules
[15:42] <theperfectpunk> they won't be able
[15:42] <theperfectpunk> to read it
[15:42] <ikonia> Eagleman: home network ?
[15:42] <theperfectpunk> if i don't type again
[15:42] <theperfectpunk> would they?
[15:42] <RFleming> heywood, they all roughly do the same thing.  fail2ban requires iptables.  It monitors your logs and then places a ban on the ip address via iptables
[15:42] <ikonia> theperfectpunk: they can't read it if they put you on ignore for being annoying
[15:42] <bazhang> theperfectpunk, try once every 15 minutes, not every 15 seconds
[15:42] <FloodBot1> theperfectpunk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:42] <escott> Eagleman, those would be a bit easier to read if they were in iptables -L format
[15:42] <RFleming> heywood_away, the problem with all of them is that you can actually self-DoS yourself :)
[15:42] <theperfectpunk> 15 min
[15:43] <heywood_away> RFleming: funny you say that. that's exactly what prompted my question! :O
[15:43] <Eagleman> escott, you sure? this is exactly the format how they want it in #netfilter
[15:43] <ikonia> Eagleman: what did netfilter say about the problem ?
[15:43] <heywood_away> i managed to lock myself out b/c denyhosts banned my remote IP.
[15:43] <Eagleman> ikonia, nothing they'r afk
[15:44] <RFleming> heywood_away, that's why a vpn would be better suited.
[15:44] <ikonia> Eagleman: then how do you know it's the format they wanted it in ?
[15:44] <heywood_away> RFleming: had to go to a neighborhood starbucks to get back in there. then spent a few hours trying to figure out which of the three was the culprit.
[15:44] <Eagleman> escott, iptables -L wont show everything
[15:44] <Eagleman> ikonia, because its in their topic
[15:44] <ikonia> Eagleman: ahh, fair enough
[15:44] <heywood_away> RFleming: (hours rather than minutes b/c i'm learning on the fly)
[15:44] <RFleming> you take SSH off of the publicly facing side, and move it in. You VPN in, then ssh into the box
[15:44] <ikonia> Eagleman: is this on a home network ?
[15:45] <Eagleman> ikonia, a bit, my server does have a WAN ip address attached to eth1.10
[15:45] <philinux> craigbass1976: what model is it
[15:45] <heywood_away> RFleming: right, but VPN into what? something's got to be running the VPN server, right?
[15:45] <ikonia> Eagleman: I'm wondering if the dhcp resust / refresh is killing the nat/masqurade
[15:45] <Eagleman> ikonia, everything is static
[15:45] <ikonia> Eagleman: even the wan ?
[15:45] <Eagleman> except the WAN ip address, but it did not changed for over an year now
[15:45] <escott> Eagleman, i find that hard to read... maybe im just not practiced
[15:46] <RFleming> heywood_away, you limit what's publicly facing, DROP (not reject) all inbound requests to invalid ports (really slows down a port scan), and put in rules for banning bad vpn client requests.
[15:46] <ikonia> Eagleman: the change may not be the problem, the request/lease renew maybe
[15:46] <RFleming> then you can guarantee yourself access to the box whenever without self-DoSing yourself.
[15:47] <Eagleman> ikonia, their lease time is 48 hours, still wont explain the problem coming back every few hours
[15:47] <Intensity> Hi. I'm pleased that Ubuntu gracefully sets up my AT&T mobile broadband card (Momentum 4G) when I connect it (logged in via Unity interface).  It interactively asks me for details such as carrier.  But I'd like to know how I can replicate that setup from scratch by copying created configuration files so that I can have network access on a text-based system too.
[15:47] <Intensity> Does anyone have an idea where such configuration files are stored and written to?
[15:47] <RFleming> heywood_away, there are decent routers out there now that have integrated VPN and place your hosts in a DMZ so they're not totally exposed as well... shore it up with hardware.
[15:48] <RFleming> that's another option to look at.
[15:48] <genii-around> Intensity: Usually somewhere like /etc/ppp/peers
[15:48] <ikonia> Eagleman: it still checks ever $x time
[15:48] <LoneTrooper> HI, Is there a difference between tar.gz and *.deb (or other package for specific distro) for installing programs? In windows its wiser to use portable packages in cost of comfort (no registry entires= less mess) and i dont know how its with linux i mean is it safer to use tar.gz than *.deb packages? What are consequences of using each of these type of files to install software?
[15:48] <yourimym1> hello is there chatroom for tech supp for nvidia geforce ubuntu ?
[15:48] <jambibot> yourimym1: Hello from QtJambiBot!
[15:48] <craigbass1976> Satellite A215-S4807   I've already got the pdf form http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/support/jsp/home.jsp?nav=Product%20Support  : AMD TurionTM 64 X2 Dual-Core Mobile Technology TL56, 2048MB DDR2 SDRAM...
[15:48] <craigbass1976> philinux, ^^
[15:48] <heywood_away> RFleming: ok, i will take a look at the openvpn docs. main thing is that the setup is 2000 miles away from where i am now, so any HW changes will have to wait a long while.
[15:48] <ikonia> jambibot: are you a bot
[15:48] <Eagleman> ok, i didnt knew that ikonia, any idea how to be sure that is the problem?
[15:49] <ikonia> hello test
[15:49] <jambibot> ikonia: Hello from QtJambiBot!
[15:49] <Eagleman> ikonia, dhcp doesnt use any port right?
[15:49] <LoneTrooper> so anyone knows the difference?
[15:49] <genii-around> Eagleman: Port 67
[15:49] <delkin> Hi guys! Here is the problem: I am accessing a windows share folder that I have mounted. And I am not able to 'cd' to windows shortcut. It appears as 'filename.lnk'. What is the best way to handle this issue in order to allow me travel into that folder?
[15:49] <heywood_away> RFleming: meantime i will take a look at the openvpn docs.
[15:49] <ikonia> Eagleman: udp port
[15:50] <ikonia> Eagleman: can't remember which one
[15:50] <heywood_away> RFleming: as for the router, it's an old linksys. i have to check, but i think i have dd-wrt on it. so i assume i can set up some sort of VPN functionality on it. and it does have a DMZ.
[15:50] <RFleming> heywood_away, oh yeah!
[15:51] <escott> delkin, thats what a link is in windows. its a file with the name of the path to traverse to inside it
[15:51] <Touhou11> LoneTrooper: The Windows registry has its uses, there are limitations to portable software. The package manager is aware of files installed via *.deb, whereas tar.gz software is outside of its control. Always use deb files where possible
[15:51] <RFleming> heywood_away, http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/VPN
[15:51] <heywood_away> RFleming: checking router now (via ssh -X). brb...
[15:52] <LoneTrooper> touhoull so isnt that safe right? By using portable apps on linux i put my pc at risk right?
[15:53] <LoneTrooper> i used to portable apps i dont need data to be stored about them because i know where i installed them i can remove them easy
[15:53] <philinux> craigbass1976: should run just fine and dandy
[15:54] <LoneTrooper> or should i install portable apps in file system for extra security?
[15:54] <dydzEz2> whats a very popular terminal based monitoring tool for network
[15:54] <kenshiro> Hi, is there any way to request an open source application is included in Ubuntu repos? It's an open source game, ZEQ2 Lite based on Dragon Ball Z :-)
[15:55] <escott> kenshiro, you can become a packager and submit it to debian
[15:55] <Intensity> genii-around: Yeah I would have expected to see something there if there was good integration between the GUI and the typical text-based setups.  But, there is nothing new (besides standard details) in /etc/ppp nor /etc/chatscripts
[15:55] <dydzEz2> like something similar to top
[15:55] <dydzEz2> i really like top
[15:55] <ikonia> nettop
[15:55] <ikonia> ntop
[15:56] <dydzEz2>  ntop is browser based for the stas
[15:56] <dydzEz2> on top you see whats up in the terminal
[15:56] <ikonia> ntop runs in the terminal
[15:56] <dydzEz2> oh i gues im just having a lot of problems with it on a VM
[15:56] <dydzEz2> for some reasono
[15:56] <KI4RO> .
[15:57] <craigbass1976> philinux, I'm all over it then.
[15:57] <kenshiro> escott I'm very interested, I will invetigate that, I'm programmer but never submitted a package to a distro :)
[15:57] <LoneTrooper> http://www.moddb.com/games/zeq2lite hes that game in summary it says in supports linux so extract archive and look for linux executables
[15:57] <escott> !packaging
[15:57] <escott> kenshiro, ^^^
[15:58] <ikonia> you're right, ntop needs a browser, sorry
[15:59] <dydzEz2> yeah
[15:59] <dydzEz2> is nmon popular?
[15:59] <kenshiro> escott and LoneTrooper, thank you for your help :-)
[15:59] <LoneTrooper> np
[16:00] <akSeya> hello folks :)
[16:01] <user01> i have a question about unicode, i see there are different versions, etc . . . 5.0, 6.0 etc . . . how do you know what "version" is supported?
[16:02] <nomodeset> Hello, i've installed gajim
[16:02] <nomodeset> but i need python-farsight
[16:02] <nomodeset> python-farsigth
[16:02] <nomodeset> to enable video/audio
[16:03] <escott> user01, as i understand things the versions just mean that additional characters have been added. so in some sense "all" are supported (they all parse) and "none" are supported there is no one font that includes all glyphs
[16:03] <nomodeset> but that package does not appear at the repos
[16:03] <kicklighter__> nomodest python-farsight is only for windows internals....
[16:04] <nomodeset> kicklighter__: Hello, then what i can do to enable
[16:04] <nomodeset> this features on gajim
[16:04] <akSeya> listen I have two nics in my computer, eth0 with internet access and eth1 for internal network. I want to block everything from outside (eth0) and allow only specified ports while letting all ports open for eth1. I guess I can do this with this command "iptables -P INPUT DROP; iptables -A INPUT -i eth1 -j ACCEPT; iptables -A INPUT -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT" right?
[16:04] <user01> escott: so when they add a character to a codepoint . . . how would you know if it is supported?  what does it mean "add a codepoint"?  I know the space is the same 1 million plus combinations
[16:04] <philinux> craigbass1976: if it can boot from usb all the better.
[16:05] <Intensity> I believe that it's nm-applet that's setting that up; it's certainly running.
[16:05] <user01> there wouldnt be a way to know for instance what version of unicode my linux system supports?
[16:06] <escott> user01, in some sense there is not operating system anywhere the supports unicode. its not practical. the number of people who read/write documents in korean, arabic, english, and elvish is very small
[16:06] <escott> s/not/no
[16:07] <genii-around> Hehe, elvish
[16:07] <user01> escott: I would say there are a lot that write in english actually . ..
[16:07] <escott> genii-around, yeah thats terribly inaccurate of me. i didnt specify which elvish. tengwar in this case :)
[16:07] <Eagleman> ikonia, what will happen when the dhclclient and server cant contact each other?
[16:07] <escott> user01, AND. ie all in the same document
[16:07] <Intensity> Aha.  I did a text search and I believe that it's being stored in /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/
[16:08] <Eagleman> ikonia, the IP address is not changing or removed from my eth1.10 interface
[16:08] <user01> escott: really?  I would think in ubuntu there would tons of people writing documents in all the different languages
[16:08] <escott> user01, pick any font face you want. there are many many codepoints in unicode that the font face does not have a corresponding glyph for and you would see that block with numbers in it
[16:09] <escott> user01, and they use different fonts. koreans use korean fonts but dont bother to install arabic/tengwar/cyrrilic/etc
[16:11] <escott> user01, at the end of the day its the installed typefaces that dictate if the unicode sample is rendered in a meaningful fashion or not.
[16:12] <escott> user01, tengwar is a great example as you almost certainly dont have it installed and so the sample on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tengwar won't render correctly, but if you install the fonts it will
[16:12] <VOice> I need help.
[16:12] <tgm4883> !ask | VOice
[16:13] <VOice> How do I install a wireless driver? I have a Toshiba C850-B705
[16:13] <genii-around> VOice: More details of what you need help with could be useful to us
[16:13] <YokoBR> hey guys, i have a hybrid hp g42, with amd/amd apu/gpu... how can i install them drivers
[16:13] <YokoBR> ?
[16:13] <VOice> How do I install a wireless driver? I have a Toshiba C850-B705. I'm using Ubuntu 12.10.
[16:13] <compdoc> YokoBR, what drivers do you need?
[16:14] <user01> escott: actually i think it does, i installed symbola, which includes the symbols added in unicode 6.0 such as 'pile of poo'
[16:14] <philinux> VOice: does wireless not work at all. Can you connect wired first
[16:14] <VOice> I'm on wired.
[16:14] <YokoBR> HD 4200 (apu) and HD 6310 (gpu)
[16:14] <YokoBR> compdoc
[16:14] <philinux> VOice: look in additional drivers. what version ubuntu
[16:14] <VOice> 12.10
[16:15] <VOice> I installed Additional Drivers using Ubuntu Software Center but it's not showing anything, empty.
[16:15] <philinux> VOice: top right select system settings and look in additionnal drivers.
[16:15] <fego> .2
[16:15] <YokoBR> VOice, you can also try ndiswrapper
[16:16] <VOice> How? Any tutorial?
[16:16] <VOice> And aditional drivers is empty.
[16:16] <compdoc> YokoBR, amd recently released new drivers. you might start there:  http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx
[16:16] <VOice> Aditional Drivers says: NO proprietary drivers are in use.
[16:17] <genii-around> VOice: If you put the results of the command: sudo lshw -C network     into a pastebin for us to look at, it could be helpful. Also the result of:  lspci -nn
[16:17] <VOice> OK, I will, 1 minute.
[16:17] <jil> hello
[16:18] <escott> user01, perhaps fontconfig doesn't know about the font? isn't configured to use the matching symbols from that font?
[16:18] <escott> user01, check with gnome-character-map to see if it gets picked up at the codepoint
[16:18] <user01> escott: the font displays for me . . . i was wondering about other people
[16:19] <jil> can encode mp3 sound with vlc on ubuntu?  I receive a message say ffmpeg (libav..) does not includ mpeg layer I et II
[16:19] <user01> escott: they would have to have the font installed basically
[16:19] <jil> can I (sorry)
[16:20] <user01> escott: like if i encode it in unicode, they cant read the pile of poo unless they have one
[16:20] <escott> user01, unicode has this big set of rules regarding what to do when an exact codepoint match is not found
[16:20] <VOice> genii-around: http://pastebin.com/rCV8w4DK
[16:21] <escott> user01, sometimes it can render in another glyph that is close (ie maybe missing an accent) in other cases you get a box with little numbers in it (that basically means "there should be a unicode glyph here but i can't render it")
[16:22] <theperfectpunk> sudo make works
[16:22] <genii-around> VOice: http://askubuntu.com/questions/139632/wireless-card-realtek-rtl8723ae-bt-is-not-recognized
[16:22] <theperfectpunk> but sudo make install does not
[16:22] <theperfectpunk> can anybody tell me what's wrong>
[16:22] <VOice> genii-around: will that work?
[16:22] <theperfectpunk> ?
[16:23] <jil> any mp3 on ubuntu ?  I also get an error with avidemux.
[16:23] <escott> user01, there is no way for you to know what they will see. no more than you can say if they will view your webpage in a Sans Serif or a Serif font. for all you know they are blind.
[16:23] <philinux> VOice: what happens when u unplug wired. does it offer any wirelss points
[16:23] <VOice> No.
[16:23] <theperfectpunk> escott sudo make install doesn't work in a package
[16:24] <theperfectpunk> what to do?
[16:24] <theperfectpunk> but sudo make does
[16:25] <genii-around> VOice: It's a pain, I know, but it looks like this is the case with the adapter you have which is unclaimed, the driver needs to be manually made for it ( vendor:device code of 10ec:8723  )
[16:26] <VOice> genii-around: i ran the commands you gave me, after checking this showed:
[16:26] <VOice> FATAL: Module rtl8723e not found.
[16:27] <escott> theperfectpunk, you should not "sudo make" its unnecessary and potentially dangerous
[16:27] <dydzEz2> man i cant find a good stock market watcher on ubuntu
[16:27] <theperfectpunk> ok i did make
[16:27] <theperfectpunk> but make install did not work
[16:27] <theperfectpunk> they are drivers from secure source
[16:28] <theperfectpunk> to get bluetooth workin
[16:28] <escott> theperfectpunk, if you have to run "make install" that has to be "sudo make install" because unless you ./configure --prefix=/home/username/something
[16:28] <theperfectpunk> there is no configure file in the package
[16:29] <theperfectpunk> m trying to install the bluetooth driver in this
[16:29] <theperfectpunk> http://downloads.zotac.com/mediadrivers/mb/download/NB087_Ubuntu.zip
[16:29] <escott> theperfectpunk, then "make; sudo make install" would be sensible (provided checkinstall is not working)
[16:30] <theperfectpunk> let me check if checkinstall is working
[16:31] <theperfectpunk> checkinstall not working
[16:31] <YokoBR> guys, i think i found out my problem. My hybrid apu/gpu needs both legacy and new amd drivers.. how do i solve that?
[16:31] <theperfectpunk> no rule to make target install
[16:31] <theperfectpunk> is the error
[16:32] <TheHawk> Hey under 100% cpu load how much temp must the cpu sensor say to be sure its not heating? under 60 celsius?
[16:32] <VOice> SO, what do I do with my problem?
[16:32] <jil> theperfectpunk, it sound like you make did not go as expected.
[16:33] <jil> likes your
[16:33] <theperfectpunk> no errors with make
[16:33] <theperfectpunk> jil
[16:34] <theperfectpunk> escott any more idead?
[16:34] <theperfectpunk> *ideas
[16:35] <escott> theperfectpunk, you've fallen into the bad habit of putting sudo in front of everything even when it doesnt need sudo. always try things without sudo first.
[16:35] <Fuzzles> whats better ubuntu 12.04 or 12.10?
[16:35] <escott> theperfectpunk, i haven't been following your problem so i dont know what you are dealing with at the moment
[16:35] <escott> !lts | Fuzzles
[16:35] <escott> Fuzzles, there is no best. depends on what you want
[16:35] <theperfectpunk> make alone doesn't work
[16:36] <theperfectpunk> it gives permission denied
[16:36] <theperfectpunk> so i sudo make
[16:36] <jose__> Hello guys. Is there a command to open an application but not bringing it to the front?? I looked for gvfs-open options but found none. Thanks.
[16:36] <escott> theperfectpunk, you probably unpacked things with sudo
[16:36] <theperfectpunk> no other choice escott
[16:36] <Fuzzles> escott, well i heard 12.10 had and has a lot of problems
[16:36] <g16> theperfectpunk: under DPOinuxSTA_V2600_/README_STA_pci, I read: Supporting kernel: Linux 2.4 and 2.6 series. Does that match the number you see by running uname -r on the terminal?
[16:36] <theperfectpunk> nope mine is 3.2
[16:36] <theperfectpunk> kernel
[16:37] <theperfectpunk> so these drivers won't work?
[16:37] <escott> theperfectpunk, what you should be doing is: (a) downloading a tarball (b) unpacking that tarball without root permissions ie tar -xzvf filename.tgz [NO SUDO] (c) running configure and make without root (d) running checkinstall/make install as root
[16:37] <g16> They're not guaranteed to work.
[16:38] <fego> theperfectpunk: there should also be a README or INSTALL file, they might be helpul in installation
[16:38] <theperfectpunk> http://downloads.zotac.com/mediadrivers/mb/download/NB087_Ubuntu.zip nothing have a look
[16:38] <theperfectpunk> m trying to install bluetooth odriver not lan
[16:38] <theperfectpunk> escott
[16:39] <theperfectpunk> are the tar balls extracted with sudo
[16:39] <theperfectpunk> require root permission to be modified or deleted?
[16:39] <escott> theperfectpunk, you should not extract tarballs as root. there is no need to
[16:39] <theperfectpunk> the folder is not getting deleted
[16:39] <SonikkuAmerica> Just [ tar -flags ] them.
[16:40] <escott> theperfectpunk, if you do sudo tar -xzvf then you've made it so that only root can work with those files
[16:40] <Fuzzles> escott, i hear theres some problems with 12.10 is taht true
[16:40] <theperfectpunk> yeah
[16:40] <xangua> theperfectpunk: a bluetooth dongle¿ how do you know your bluetooth is not recognized¿
[16:40] <theperfectpunk> i can't delete them
[16:40] <escott> theperfectpunk, forcing you to use a privileged make which is silly
[16:40] <genii-around> VOice: Apologies on lag, work required me for a while. You may require a reboot for the system to see the new driver was built. There may be some command to force it to see a new module immediately like ldconfig works for libraries, but I do not know it offhand.
[16:40] <SonikkuAmerica> xangua: You do realize you're using an inverted question mark, right?
[16:40] <theperfectpunk> no it's a internal bluetooth
[16:40] <escott> Fuzzles, there are problems with all software
[16:40] <theperfectpunk> escott u are a genius
[16:41] <VOice> ok genii
[16:41] <theperfectpunk> xangua
[16:41] <genii-around> VOice: This is assuming you did not receive any errors on all the previous steps
[16:41] <theperfectpunk> can't turn it on
[16:41] <escott> theperfectpunk, I would sudo rm -rf ./the_folder_you_extracted and then redo the tar -xzvf without sudo
[16:41] <theperfectpunk> escott will do
[16:41] <theperfectpunk> thank you
[16:42] <xangua> theperfectpunk: was it recognized when you used a live cd/usb¿
[16:42] <theperfectpunk> nope i installed a driver for it
[16:42] <theperfectpunk> it's ralink rt3298
[16:42] <theperfectpunk> bluetooth
[16:43] <xangua> theperfectpunk: i had to install blueman to show the indicator even when my bluetooth dongle was recognized
[16:43] <SonikkuAmerica> xangua: On which distro? I have no trouble with GNOME showing the indicator.
[16:43] <theperfectpunk> ok m installing blueman'=
[16:43] <SonikkuAmerica> And come to think of it neither does Unity.
[16:44] <xangua> SonikkuAmerica: on ubuntu 12.04
[16:44] <SonikkuAmerica> xangua: That's weird. I might have to Google that...
[16:44] <SonikkuAmerica> (Well, Google is a bit extreme, I just created a /command for it on XChat. lol)
[16:45] <theperfectpunk> installed didn't work
[16:45] <theperfectpunk> everything is grayed out
[16:45] <SonikkuAmerica> xangua: The System Settings > Bluetooth didn't work?
[16:46] <k1l_> does it have bluetooth? does lspci/lsusb see it? is it blocked by rfkill?
[16:47] <xangua> SonikkuAmerica: like i said, my bluetooth dongle was recognized but it was just the default indicator not showing up; installed blueman and it showed blueman's indicator
[16:47] <xangua> anyways i am not the one with a problem here :)
[16:48] <SonikkuAmerica> xangua: I know, I was just a little quizzical as to why you suggested to theperfectpunk that installing blueman was the only way a BT indicator would show up.
[16:49] <XtremeWiz> Hi everyone. I am trying to delete the contents of a directory using "rm -rf directory_name" but I am getting "Permission Denied" error. Does this have anything to do with CHMOD permissions of the folder(s) inside directory_name?
[16:50] <pipopopo> XtremeWiz: more ownership problems there
[16:50] <XtremeWiz> pipopopo: didn't get you.
[16:51] <himsin> hi, whenever I connect android phone in ubuntu 12.04 it becomes very slow and almost unresponsive but it works fine in windows. Any ideas why this is happening?
[16:51] <anant> hie
[16:52] <anant> no body is replying ? :(
[16:52] <pipopopo> XtremeWiz: chown
[16:52] <escott> XtremeWiz, more likely the owner of the folder (chown)
[16:52] <tgm4883> !ask | anant
[16:52] <anant> i m new in ubuntu ... can u help me
[16:52] <pipopopo> XtremeWiz: do ls -l and see if the ownership is ok
[16:52] <himsin> I also tried with other android phones and same results
[16:53] <anant> my printer is not working on ubuntu :(
[16:53] <philinux> anant: just tell us your problem
[16:53] <anant> when i connect it to usb
[16:53] <philinux> anant: make and model would help
[16:54] <anant> it adds automatically the printer
[16:54] <anant> but when i give command to print
[16:54] <anant> it says printing fail
[16:54] <anant> printer model is lbp2900
[16:54] <philinux> anant: make and model would help
[16:54] <anant> Canon lbp 2900
[16:55] <XtremeWiz> pipopopo: yeah, I made the folder chmod 777 and it worked. Thank you.
[16:55] <tgm4883> anant, http://askubuntu.com/questions/145769/how-do-i-get-a-canon-lbp-2900-printer-working
[16:55] <pipopopo> XtremeWiz: np
[16:56] <escott> himsin, the phone or the computer? and is this android 4.0+ or <4.0
[16:57] <anant> How can i configure my adnroid phone with ubuntu ?
[16:57] <ikonia> what ???
[16:57] <anant> any pc suite for android phone in linux ?
[16:57] <ikonia> anant: what are you talking about
[16:57] <ikonia> anant: what do you actually want to do
[16:58] <himsin> escott, ics
[16:58] <himsin> escott, the pohne
[17:00] <jeph> good evening i would like to ask help. actually i have installed ubuntu 12.04 but i get crashed most of the time so i think that it may be the incompatible packet i might have installed .i would like to uninstalled it and and reinstall it again i would like to keep some of appliation i have  i would like to ask if there is a way of backup apps or even be aware of all application install so that i can install them again
[17:01] <escott> himsin, maybe more ptp requests are being made than the phone can handle
[17:02] <jeph> good evening i would like to ask help. actually i have installed ubuntu 12.04 but i get crashed most of the time so i think that it may be the incompatible packet i might have installed .i would like to uninstalled it and and reinstall it again i would like to keep some of appliation i have  i would like to ask if there is a way of backup apps or even be aware of all application install so that i can install them again
[17:03] <escott> !clone | jeph
[17:05] <d8bhatta> How to connect ubuntu with tp-link router?
[17:05] <d8bhatta> any idea guys?
[17:06] <ikonia> d8bhatta: it's just a standard wireless router isn't it ?
[17:06] <Quest> how to delete all files in a folder and its subfolders that match this pattern *_1.* ?
[17:06] <d8bhatta> ikonia:  yes its wireless router
[17:07] <escott> Quest, find . -name '*_1.*' -delete
[17:07] <ikonia> d8bhatta: there are many notes on how to connect to wireless router, including the official guide on https://help.ubuntu.com
[17:08] <Quest> escott any other way?
[17:08] <escott> Quest, sure
[17:08] <Bollsaq> Is the netbook-remix interface still available? I wanna try it on a regular laptop.
[17:09] <k1l_> Bollsaq: no
[17:09] <technojabber> I just download Linux lite set it to boot from the live DVD an it ask for a password I put one in but will not accept
[17:09] <Bollsaq> damn
[17:10] <Bollsaq> I think it would be nice, better than Unity.
[17:10] <k1l_> Bollsaq: it was back in the 11.04 days and that is end-of-life now
[17:10] <Quest> escott like?
[17:10] <k1l_> Bollsaq: unity runs very well on my samsung nc10 netbook
[17:10] <Bollsaq> k1l_: Easypeasy is still in development, so was wondering if that desktop interface had a PPA or something.
[17:10] <escott> Quest, you could write a c program to do it
[17:11] <Quest> escott no, just linux and windows terminals
[17:11] <k1l_> Bollsaq: "still in development" = last release was in april 2010. i wouldnt count on that
[17:11] <escott> Quest, im not sure why you would want another way to do it
[17:12] <Quest> escott ok
[17:12] <Quest> thanks
[17:12] <Bollsaq> k1l_: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=easypeasy it says active.
[17:13] <k1l_> Bollsaq: that doesnt change anything of the facts i mentioned
[17:14] <VulcanRidr> Got a minor problem. I need a newer version of torque than is in the repos for precise, so, for the first time in 10 years or so, I am attempting to roll a deb. It's erroring out just before creation of the debs. Is there somewhere (pastebin?) that I can stick the errors and can someone walk me through what I'm missing?
[17:14] <Bollsaq> k1l_: Oh I thought active meant still supported, must've misunderstood
[17:15] <Halite> How do I create a new directory in the terminal
[17:15] <llutz> Halite: mkdir directory
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> Halite  mkdir
[17:16] <pringlescan> I'm getting a new server for work and I have to run several VMs on it… I'll need to run Windows, Linux and possibly OSX. Should I spring for VMWare, use virtualbox, or something else?
[17:17] <VulcanRidr> pringlescan: What about kvm?
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> pringlescan  virtualbox is in the ubuntu repos and free, vmware isnt
[17:17] <theperfectpunk> is it possible to set a bin file to execute at startup?
[17:18] <liquidmetal> Any recommendations for some video editing software for ubuntu? I know of blender - but anything else?
[17:19] <xangua> liquidmetal: as far as i know belnder is a 3d modeling program, not a video editor
[17:20] <liquidmetal> xangua: it has video editing functionality as well! It even has compositing!
[17:20] <sotiris> hello guys
[17:21] <sotiris> please i need help with sslstrip runiing on ubuntu
[17:22] <jangoler> i can't join to any channel, why?!
[17:22] <Pici> jangoler: you're here.
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> !info sslstrip
[17:22] <jangoler> yeah i know
[17:22] <Pici> jangoler: if you're having issues with other channels, you'll need to ask in #freenode
[17:22] <jangoler> but i wanna join to #ikariam.ir
[17:22] <pringlescan> It seems like VMware fairs better in benchmarks, but the license cost is comparable to a CPU upgrade that would negate the benefits
[17:22] <jangoler> tnx
[17:23] <escott> pringlescan, you could also use xen or kvm. what you use is much more of a question of management time and capabilities than cost as you are realizing
[17:24] <Bollsaq> I suddenly miss netbook-remix
[17:27] <VulcanRidr> Can anyone help me with my deb building problem? The end of the build is at http://pastebin.com/3BjG1x1e
[17:28] <spizzo> I've just updated all packages on my system and java -version still shows I'm on 1.6 even after installing openjdk 7 packages. How do I get to java version 1.7?
[17:29] <dydzEz2> If i installed a program like netbeans, where would i find it in the file system
[17:29] <GuidoPallemans> dydzEz2: probably /usr/bin
[17:30] <dydzEz2> check that, if not -- where else? or how do i found out the name
[17:30] <dydzEz2> because i installed something from the software center
[17:30] <dydzEz2> and if i type the name in the terminal it doesnt launch
[17:30] <pringlescan> escott, mostly it would be for me to set up a couple of VMs, but I'm at an edu institution and I'd like to use something like zen or openvz to teach them basic server admin and have their own system to use
[17:30] <dydzEz2> so im figured its named something else
[17:30] <GuidoPallemans> probably
[17:31] <pringlescan> has anyone ever set something up to scale down CPU clockspeed when the system is on a UPS?
[17:32] <jeph> i got another problem.i have install ubuntu 10.04 in my sumsung laptop  and i am missing wireless drivers can some tell me how to get them
[17:32] <jeph> please
[17:32] <craigbass1976> Ok, I'm trying to install on a Vista machine.  I don't see options to resize partitions during the install, and gparted won't let me either.  The up down arrows are greyed out, nor can I drag the arrows when the partition in question is highlighted.
[17:33] <escott> pringlescan, so openvz is containers and not a real VM
[17:33] <Pici> !floodbots | sotiris
[17:34] <pringlescan> escott, I do know that, but I don't think they need to play with Kernels, I was thinking of having a large VM running that, I realize that's not very efficient, but unless I can get AWS to give them free usage tier w/o a credit card, that's my best option
[17:34] <escott> pringlescan, re UPS wouldn't make that much of a difference, you might be able to reduce power by 30% with a big hit on efficiency. the end result may be greater power consumption overall
[17:34] <jeph> i got another problem.i have install ubuntu 10.04 in my sumsung laptop  and i am missing wireless drivers can some tell me how to get them please?
[17:34] <pringlescan> jeph, do you know the model number of your wireless card?
[17:34] <jeph> let me check
[17:35] <theperfectpunk> hello
[17:35] <craigbass1976> Is there a way to resize with fdisk?
[17:35] <theperfectpunk> how to run scripts at bootup?
[17:35] <pringlescan> escott, I'm just concerned about running my main db and app server in a VM, so I was thinking of running it on the host
[17:35] <zgr> hey guys I have strange problem with blanks cd-rs i can't write any, on two different pcs running ubuntu (12.04 and 12.40). When I insert blank cdr it spins and spins...
[17:35] <theperfectpunk> escott
[17:36] <theperfectpunk> i finally got the bluetooth to work
[17:36] <pringlescan> zgr, try a different brand of media, check the manufacturer of the optical drives, see if they are the same, google for the combination of media brand and manufacturer and see if there's anyone else having that problem
[17:36] <craigbass1976> zgr, is this new?  I've run across some bunk batches of blanks.  I think the last was Staples brand.
[17:37] <agu10^> hi people!
[17:37] <SilverOrange> Hey! I have a quick question. I have a mid range video card in a server, using ubuntu server. Do I need to install the drivers for it? Does it provide any benifit at all?
[17:37] <g16> craigbass1976: fdisk resizes the partitions, but you should first resize the filesystem with the appropriate tool. If Vista uses ntfs, then check for ntfsresize.
[17:37] <yashi> ive got some serious noise issues with my mic... deinstalled pulse so far. tried everything in alsamixer -v=all. any ideas?
[17:37] <g16> Or better, do the resize from within Vista and using Vista's native tool.
 this is : AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter
[17:38] <sideeffect> taking in to account that till now noone as given in apropriate channel an ansmer to this. and probably it may affect ubuntu users very well too: feel free to help :D :D --> http://www.forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=288767
 this is : AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter
[17:39] <SilverOrange> Hey! I have a quick question. I have a mid range video card in a server, using ubuntu server. Do I need to install the drivers for it? Does it provide any benifit at all? or should I just take it out.
[17:39] <theperfectpunk> escott how to run some commands at bootup?
[17:40] <pringlescan> jeph, did you try googling that network card and the version of ubuntu?
[17:40] <escott> theperfectpunk, what commands do you want to run
[17:41] <theperfectpunk> sudo insmod rtbth.ko
[17:41] <zgr> pringlescan craigbass1976 just tried on laptop with windows cdrs are detected properly, and while spinning it on ubuntu ps aux shows only udev accessing dev/sr0
[17:41] <theperfectpunk> escott
[17:41] <theperfectpunk> sudo mknod /dev/rtbth c 192 0
[17:41] <theperfectpunk> and finally
[17:41] <escott> theperfectpunk, you just list modules you want to run in /etc/modules
[17:41] <theperfectpunk> ./rtbt.bin
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> theperfectpunk  is this link useful http://superuser.com/questions/471253/ubuntu-how-to-run-a-terminal-command-on-boot
[17:42] <pringlescan> zgr, I haven't tried burning in linux in ages, I used to work in a print shop where we burned 1,000s a month and I just know to check the top and the bottom of the spindle :-( and switch brands
[17:42] <escott> theperfectpunk, you should not have to make device nodes, udev should be doing that. perhaps you can update its rules
[17:42] <escott> theperfectpunk, no idea what the final binary does...
[17:42] <jeph> i read that i have to install windows driver  but i failed to locate the file  window.inf that i had to find inside it the driver i need
[17:42] <theperfectpunk> it enables bluetooth
[17:42] <theperfectpunk> service
[17:42] <jeph> so i you know how i can find that file may be it can help
[17:42] <theperfectpunk> i want it to run automatically each time the system boots up
[17:43] <VulcanRidr> is there a better channel to ask about deb build questions?
[17:43] <escott> theperfectpunk, /etc/rc.local as a last ditch location. all paths should be full paths in that
[17:44] <theperfectpunk> the commands use two files
[17:44] <theperfectpunk> where should i put the two files?
[17:44] <theperfectpunk> actually not just two files i think it uses the whole folder
[17:45] <escott> !fhs | theperfectpunk
[17:47] <sarthor> Hi, I have linux installed 14. how to install USB 4610 SureMark Printer on Linux. My linuxt can see the printer in tail -f /var/log/syslog but the printer is not listed in the printers area. Help please
[17:48] <theperfectpunk> escott can i pm you?
[17:48] <theperfectpunk> plz
[17:48] <theperfectpunk> i am at the verge of getting it to work completely
[17:48] <escott> theperfectpunk, i have not been following everything you have done. i honestly don't know why you keep singling me out
[17:49] <theperfectpunk> i can't read all that now
[17:49] <theperfectpunk> it's 11:19PM here
[17:49] <unheeding> sarthor: what do you mean linux installed 14?  are you using Linux Mint?
[17:49] <theperfectpunk> could you explain how will it access the files required>
[17:49] <theperfectpunk> ?
[17:50] <sarthor> mint 14
[17:50] <theperfectpunk> escott i have worked really hard to get so close
[17:50] <unheeding> you should ask in the mint support channel, I don't know if it is the same as ubuntu
[17:50] <theperfectpunk> escott, it's been nearly 5 hours figuring this out
[17:50] <k1l_> !mint | sarthor
[17:51] <theperfectpunk> and i'm not singling out'
[17:51] <sarthor> I have ubuntu installed too. I am can plug the usb cable to 12.10 desktop.
[17:51] <theperfectpunk> i just don;t understand you
[17:51] <theperfectpunk> bcoz m not a linux genius
[17:51] <sarthor> and same on ubuntul unheeding
[17:52] <theperfectpunk> escott can u please tell me how it will access those files?
[17:52] <theperfectpunk> i have to run three commands :
[17:53] <theperfectpunk> a) “sudo modprobe bluetooth" to make sure that BlueZ related service
[17:53] <OerHeks> theperfectpunk, MonkeyDust gave you a url with an answer
[17:53] <theperfectpunk> launched.
[17:53] <theperfectpunk> b) “sudo insmod rtbth.ko”
[17:53] <theperfectpunk> c) “sudo mknod /dev/rtbth c 192 0
[17:53] <FloodBot1> theperfectpunk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:53] <theperfectpunk> and ./rtbt.bin
[17:53] <theperfectpunk> OerHeks
[17:53] <escott> theperfectpunk, if you dont understand me why do you keep asking? im happy to answer but i havent been following so its hard for me to get context
[17:53] <Estrobeda> Is this only ubuntu and support or can i ask something diffrent?
[17:53] <Halite> What is the command to initate a Kernel BugCheck
[17:53] <theperfectpunk> ok let's start from the beginning
[17:53] <escott> theperfectpunk, modules are usually loaded through /etc/modules where you just list the module you want to load
[17:54] <theperfectpunk> by modules you mean binary files?
[17:54] <escott> theperfectpunk, also mixing modprobe and insmod is really strange. they do the same thing. you would modprobe both. or more simply list both in /etc/modules
[17:55] <escott> theperfectpunk, as for mknod udev is responsible for /dev so you would usually make a rule in /etc/udev.d/rules for your device
[17:55] <yourimym1> hello is there nvidia-ubuntu support chanel
[17:55] <theperfectpunk> what will the rule do?
[17:55] <escott> theperfectpunk, this final ./rtbt.bin.... since I don't know what it does i can only suggest that you put it in /etc/rc.local with a full path to the executable
[17:56] <Metalhead1337> hi
[17:56] <escott> theperfectpunk, the udev rule would run the mknod file on the appropriate event. i dont know much about udev so i can't really advise you on that.
[17:56] <escott> theperfectpunk, you can also just dump everything in /etc/rc.local which is ugly but should work
[17:56] <Metalhead1337> can anyone point me to a guide to setup a simple and private IRC server on Ubuntu 12.10 x64?
[17:57] <theperfectpunk> ok escott i got the two commands
[17:57] <theperfectpunk> how to implement this sudo insmod rtbth.ko
[17:57] <theperfectpunk> it requires the rtbth.ko file
[17:57] <Metalhead1337> anyone?
[17:57] <theperfectpunk> where to copy the rtbth.ko
[17:57] <Metalhead1337> can anyone point me to a guide to setup a simple and private IRC server on Ubuntu 12.10 x64?
[17:58] <Metalhead1337> hello?
[17:58] <Metalhead1337> can anyone point me to a guide to setup a simple and private IRC server on Ubuntu 12.10 x64?
[17:59] <escott> theperfectpunk, usually that would just be modprobe rtbth. im not sure why you would be messing with insmod
[17:59] <theperfectpunk> escott it's in the guide
[17:59] <theperfectpunk> under module installing'
[17:59] <osmdave> hi can someone help me get started. hp g6 intel i5 ubuntu 12.10 install with updates and wifi from cd. boots to purple screen. nomodeset does not fix it
[18:00] <Lofde_> i have installed vino and remmina on a lubuntu box , and i cant vnc to <IP_ADDRESS> i get connection refused (i tried this after i used my other ubuntu box to connect to it on the same network and was getting a connection refused too) i have it set in vino-preference to share desktop and allow remote control with no password.. anyone have any ideas where i should start to troubleshoot on the lubuntu machine
[18:00] <Metalhead1337> please
[18:00] <Metalhead1337> can anyone point me to a guide to setup a simple and private IRC server on Ubuntu 12.10 x64?
[18:01] <DJones> Metalhead1337: Its not something I've done, but this may help https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/irc-server.html
[18:01] <Metalhead1337> will it work in 12.10?
[18:01] <DJones> Metalhead1337: More recent version https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/irc-server.html
[18:01] <Metalhead1337> thanks!
[18:02] <DJones> Metalhead1337: Change the 12.04 in the address to 12.10 thats the latest version
[18:02] <craigbass1976> What do we do when checkdisk /f isn't possible on a drive before setting up a dual boot?  Windows won't boot is the problem to begin with.
[18:02] <Metalhead1337> DJones: I already did but thanks anyway
[18:02] <An-IP-BreAKDoWN> Metalhead1337 if the repo isn't up to date then do this http://inspircd.github.com/wiki/Installation/Source.html
[18:03] <Metalhead1337> thanks!
[18:03] <theperfectpunk> what do i need to enter in /etc/udev.d/rules?
[18:03] <theperfectpunk> escot
[18:03] <escott> craigbass1976, boot a windows rescue disk and run chkdsk there
[18:05] <escott> theperfectpunk, i dont know. i cannot tell you how to slay the monsters on the journey, i can only point you down the correct path
[18:05] <theperfectpunk> ok got it
[18:06] <theperfectpunk> one more question escott
[18:07] <theperfectpunk> escott, what does sudo insmod rtbth.ko
[18:07] <theperfectpunk> do? and is it a one time operation only?
[18:08] <escott> theperfectpunk, its a lower level version of "sudo modprobe rtbth" it finds a file named rtbth.ko which is a Kernel Object file (ie computer code) and instructs the kernel to load it into the kernel
[18:08] <escott> theperfectpunk, that gives the kernel some additional capabilities, presumably knowledge of how to control this bluetooth card
[18:09] <theperfectpunk> escott, so it needs to be done everytime the system boots or only one time?
[18:09] <escott> theperfectpunk, and it will stay loaded until you either unload it with rmmod or reboot
[18:09] <heywood> RFleming: (back now... sorry that took so long)
[18:09] <heywood> RFleming: anyway, checked router -- it does _not_ have dd-wrt on it, only the stock FW.
[18:10] <theperfectpunk> escott
[18:10] <theperfectpunk> my question is
[18:10] <theperfectpunk> in what directory do the rc.local run?
[18:10] <heywood> RFleming: so to set up VPN that way, i'd need to do a remote FW upgrade (which sounds like an exceedingly bad idea).
[18:10] <escott> theperfectpunk, you should never assume anything about the working directory of an init process. you should always include full paths.
[18:11] <theperfectpunk> escott, so instead of
[18:11] <theperfectpunk> sudo insmod rtbth.ko
[18:12] <theperfectpunk> i should sudo insmod <path of rtbth.ko>
[18:12] <theperfectpunk> ?
[18:12] <Kireji> has anyone recently checked out laptops that support ubuntu?  would love to chat, looking at buying one soon - would like to use 12.10 full disk encryption - so a CPU/chipset with AES support, or a drive with FDE support built in a plus
[18:13] <heywood> RFleming: i'll poke around https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN and see if i can get that running from here.
[18:13] <escott> theperfectpunk, (a) init runs as root so you would remove the sudo (b) im back to my original question. why are you using insmod and not modprobe? if modprobe doesnt work then you may have misconfigured/misinstalled the module and it may not be in the correct path for modprobe to pick it up. you should fix that (c) I would list the modules i need in /etc/modules and not be manually issuing modprobe directives anyways
[18:14] <MonkeyDust> Kireji  start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Laptops?action=show&redirect=HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops
[18:14] <SuperLag> I have a desktop with Ubuntu 12.10 on it. I have a drive that's external currently, and I'd like to install Ubuntu on that, is there a way to run an install from an existing install? (i hope that makes sense)
[18:14] <yourimym1> ubuntu-nvidia ?
[18:14] <ozzloy> when i try to login from 12.04, the screen goes black for a second, then i'm put right back at the login screen.  how do i troubleshoot that?
[18:14] <heywood> RFleming: BTW, the advice i got in this forum (suggesting ssh as the appropriate tool for my needs) was to prefer ssh to *VNC*, not VPN...
[18:14] <Kireji> MonkeyDust: thanks
[18:14] <ozzloy> i'm still able to log in in a terminal
[18:15] <ozzloy> i'm logged in through ctrl+alt+f1 right now
[18:15] <escott> Kireji, just because this is recent and perhaps relevant http://blogs.gnome.org/desrt/2013/02/12/dear-lazyweb-thinkpads-and-ata-passwords/
[18:15] <dydzEz2> whats the closest thing to mspaint on ubuntu, like the easiest image editor ever
[18:15] <dydzEz2> gimp is meh
[18:15] <Kireji> escott: reading - thanks
[18:16] <escott> dydzEz2, there is kpaint, but i dont think of mspaint as an image editor but rather a bitmap editor
[18:16] <ozzloy> i'm guessing something in my graphical login settings is fubared, so it fails and brings me back to the login screen
[18:16] <escott> !gksudo | ozzloy
[18:16] <yourimym1> does anyone now if there ubuntu-nvidia orc chat ?
[18:16] <g16> dydzEz2: pinta, Paint.NET
[18:16] <Kireji> escott: what a nightmare
[18:17] <escott> ozzloy, you probably didnt follow the above and need to "sudo chown username:username ~/.Xauthority
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> !find paint | dydzEz2
[18:17] <Kireji> what is Luks?
[18:17] <escott> ozzloy, so "ctrl-alt-f1" login, run "sudo chown username:username ~/.Xauthority", then ctrl-alt-f7 back to the login screen
[18:17] <ozzloy> escott, i sure don't run graphical applications as root
[18:17] <yourimym1> plz
[18:17] <Kireji> "ösoftware uses this (kernel interface). Using dm-crypt (Luks) does this for sure."
[18:17] <ozzloy> i'l see if Xauthority is owned by me
[18:17] <dydzEz2> man you know whad be a cool program, just a picture of the globe and you can click anywhere on it to test your pring and tracert
[18:18] <ozzloy> escott, yep, it's owned by me.  it's chmodded 600.  is that what it should be?
[18:18] <escott> ozzloy, then its something else
[18:18] <ozzloy> darn
[18:19] <escott> ozzloy, you can "mv ~/.config ~/.config.bak" you might also try the .compiz folder
[18:19] <ozzloy> kk.  i'll try those.  thanks for the suggestions!
[18:20] <yourimym1> does anyone now if there ubuntu-nvidia orc chat ?
[18:21] <Praxi> I'm having to convince my boss that raid is significantly faster than single drives.  Does anyone have any links to some good easy articles?
[18:21] <ozzloy> nope, neither of those.  i mv .compiz .compiz.bak.2013-02-13
[18:21] <k1l_> yourimym1: ask if its related to ubuntu
[18:21] <ozzloy> and .config .config.2013-02-13
[18:21] <xjkx> [off] I would like to test something, long story. Anyway, I have a router, the ip is <IP_ADDRESS> and I have another router with the same IP, what happens if I plug one in the other, and expect the router that was plugged, to offer wifi ? Their same ip has a problem ?
[18:22] <yourimym1> k1l / i can't find the right driver for my nvidia
[18:22] <ephesius> xjkx: they would need different ip addresses
[18:22] <ozzloy> are there log files i can check?
[18:23] <markgifford> wc
[18:23] <ozzloy> what log files would be related to graphical login failures?
[18:23] <k1l_> yourimym1: which card do you have?
[18:23] <escott> Praxi, that would depend on what kind of raid it is. but you can find benchmarks for things like mdadm online
[18:23] <xjkx> ephesius: I can really change that in the web interface ?
[18:23] <chadams42> can someone please help me with some group permission issues
[18:23] <k1l_> yourimym1: show the line in "lspci" that mentiones your card please
[18:23] <escott> ozzloy, /var/log/Xorg.0.log might say something ~/.xsession-errors might be more helpful since X seems to be working
[18:24] <chadams42> I'm trying to understand how I setup my groups so that I can securely have multiple people edit websites
[18:24] <yourimym1> k1l_ / geforce GT N620 "core edition" 2gb ddr3
[18:24] <ephesius> xjkx: yes you should be able to, what kind of router is the one you're trying to connect to the main router
[18:24] <Osakasa^> no mut toi o iha siisti
[18:24] <Osakasa^> sorry wrong channel
[18:24] <escott> chadams42, add them to the www-data group
[18:25] <xjkx> ephesius: tp link w8951nd
[18:25] <escott> chadams42, you might also want to setgid/setuid on the directory
[18:25] <gmachine_24> Greetings. Using partimage to clone a partition to a different hard drive, do I need to have a partition created in advance or will partimage create the partition on the target disk as part of the process. Neither drive has the OS on it.
[18:25] <xjkx> ephesius: they wont both offer wifi, thats why I hoped I didn't need to change
[18:26] <ozzloy> escott, i was just checking /var/log/Xorg.0.log!  yay, i am starting to know where to look.  i'll check xsession-errors
[18:26] <ozzloy> x is working, yes.  the graphical login screen shows up fine
[18:27] <yourimym1> ?
[18:27] <escott> !permissions | chadams42 otherwise your question is a bit vague so...
[18:28] <ephesius> xjkx: since thats a modem+router i doubt it will work the way you are thinking
[18:28] <k1l_> yourimym1: please show the exact line mentioned in "lspci"
[18:28] <SuperLag> Is there a way to initiate an install from a running desktop, that you want to put on an external hard drive? or do you have to reboot and run the installer from media?
[18:29] <xjkx> ephesius: hmm, ok thanks :)
[18:29] <chadams42> in /etc/passwd GID is The primary group ID (stored in /etc/group file) but, in /etc/group GID is "number in your /etc/passwd" this is confusing?
[18:30] <chadams42> how do you know which one to change, they ref each other?
[18:31] <yashi> im using two displays with different refresh rates (75 and 60hz) on the 75hz tft everythings fine. but playing on the other one is impossible. tearing to the max :x
[18:31] <escott> chadams42, you should NEVER directly modify /etc/passwd /etc/groups
[18:32] <escott> chadams42, always use the usermod/adduser/useradd tools
[18:32] <yourimym1> hello , i have a problem with my vga driver it's {geforce GT N620 "core edition" 2gb ddr3} , and i tried noueveau but it runs too slow , the i've tried nvidia-current updates and the propritly drive , binary one also , but my desktop vanished after that , then i had to fresh install noueva again , what should i do , btw i tried manually install the driver then i've messed up my pc , and had to re-install , what should i do  to get the right vga that works f
[18:32] <escott> yashi, i would think so
[18:32] <yashi> escott: any idea how to fix it? vsync syncs to 75hz everywhere ><
[18:32] <k1l_> yourimym1: nvidia-current didnt work?
[18:33] <sandeepr> in ubuntu 12.10, i want to add a static route so the server is pingable from my laptop
[18:33] <yashi> escott: im chekcing if i can force 60hz onto the other one ...but thats kind of stupid imo
[18:33] <yourimym1> k1l_, desktop vanish after instaled also
[18:33] <DoWhileGeek> I just got a ssd. How do I image my current hdd and put it on there?
[18:33] <yourimym1> no side or top bar
[18:34] <sandeepr> i used route add -net x.x.x.x netmask x.x.x.x gw x.x.x.x
[18:34] <BluesKaj> yourimym1, have you checked the "additional drivers" ?
[18:34] <yourimym1> yes i've tried almost all of them
[18:34] <sandeepr> its not pingable yet
[18:35] <escott> DoWhileGeek, i would not do that
[18:35] <sandeepr> the route -n has an entry for eth2 which i want to delete
[18:35] <escott> DoWhileGeek, a reinstall or a file level copy is preferable
[18:35] <sandeepr> what is the correct syntax with route del to be used?
[18:35] <DoWhileGeek> escott:  I assume file level copy is copying all the relevent directories?
[18:36] <DoWhileGeek> escott: assuming I dont do anything out of the norm with my filesystem, what directories should I copy?
[18:36] <escott> DoWhileGeek, yes a "cp -a" is ok but dont do a "dd"
[18:36] <DoWhileGeek> escott:  dd?
[18:36] <Kireji> has anyone tried 12.10 on Dell XPS 13?
[18:36] <mehdi> hey guys i folow instruction here : http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/01/how-to-remove-pulseaudio-use-alsa-ubuntu-linux/     now i dont have hotkeys for volume wat should i do?
[18:36] <Duke_Puke> Hi. Does anybody got the switchable graphics overheating problem in 12.10?
[18:37] <yourimym1> hello , i have a problem with my vga driver it's {geforce GT N620 "core edition" 2gb ddr3} , and i tried noueveau but it runs too slow , the i've tried nvidia-current updates and the propritly drive , binary one also , but my desktop vanished after that , then i had to fresh install noueva again , what should i do , btw i tried manually install the driver then i've messed up my pc , and had to re-install , what should i do  to get the right vga that works f
[18:37] <escott> DoWhileGeek, you said "image" which usually indicates a low level copy (bit-for-bit) with a tool like dd/ddrescue/etc
[18:38] <DoWhileGeek> escott:  ok, thanks for the tip
[18:39] <yourimym1> :) so , does anyone know nvidia tech support room ubuntu !
[18:39] <bobana> #burza
[18:40] <jtek> Hi guys, I am having some issues getting ubuntu 12.04 to boot using btrfs anyone have a mind to help me out?
[18:41] <s9iper1> i need to set up a proxy on ubuntu  for youtube any help
[18:41] <s9iper1> ??
[18:41] <escott> jtek, what kind of issues?
[18:42] <tworkin> on ubuntu 12.04, how would I go about getting a newer verison of nodejs than 0.6.12 that apt-cache shows?
[18:42] <gmachine_24> Greetings. Using partimage to clone a partition to a different hard drive, do I need to have a partition created in advance or will partimage create the partition on the target disk as part of the process. Neither drive has the OS on it.
[18:42] <theadmin> tworkin: Generally, to get a package version newer than provided by Canonical, you search for a PPA, or if that fails, try to install from source
[18:46] <escott> !pm | jtek and your problem seems unrelated to btrfs
[18:46] <s9iper1> i need to set up proxy on ubuntu  any body help ??
[18:46] <OerHeks> theadmin, could backports provide him with 0.6.19 ? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nodejs
[18:46] <g16> tworkin: apt-get update
[18:47] <theadmin> OerHeks: Oh, backports may work too, forget about those most of the time
[18:47] <jtek> escott, my apologies
[18:47] <tworkin> thanks all
[18:47] <jtek> I should preface my issue by informing that if installing using ext4 I have no issues whatsoever
[18:48] <MrHacks> Anyone know how to get MATE-Desktop installed. The public key exists on the mate download websites but apt-get keeps saying the public key is not available.
[18:49] <theadmin> MrHacks: There are detailed instructions on their website for Ubuntu... Just follow them and you'll be fine, if you can't follow the instructions that means you shouldn't be installing third-party software.
[18:49] <theadmin> MrHacks: For you, specifically, the idea is you're supposed to import the key (apt-key-add)
[18:49] <escott> jtek, you might start by sending the output of "sudo parted -l"
[18:50] <Fuzzles> is there a program for ubuntu that allows you to gutmann harddrives?
[18:50] <dchevak> hello
[18:51] <yourimym1> ubuttu
[18:51] <yourimym1> ubottu
[18:51] <MrHacks> theadmin: Yeah, that's the problem I followed those install instructions (http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download) but it doesn't say anything about "apt-key-add" on it.
[18:51] <MonkeyDust> !info wipe | Fuzzles
[18:53] <escott> Fuzzles, on most filesystems wipe/shred doesn't work
[18:53] <Fuzzles> anyone know of a program to wipe a hard drive using gutmann method?
[18:53] <Quest> escott,  $ find -name *_1.* -delete
[18:53] <Quest> find: paths must precede expression: text_1.txt.odt
[18:53] <Fuzzles> escott, what you mean?
[18:53] <chadams42> why when I "sudo usermod -G developer developer; groups developer" it outputs "developer : chadams developer"
[18:53] <escott> Fuzzles, if you need to destroy the entire drive contents a simple cat /dev/urandom > /dev/sdX will do
[18:53] <chadams42> where did "chadams" come from?
[18:54] <escott> chadams42, -a -G always -a
[18:54]  * MrHacks hopes someone else can explain the apt-key-add thing for mate-deskop without the smug attitude
[18:54] <Quest> escott,  whats wrong
[18:54] <MonkeyDust> Fuzzles  if what escott says about wipe is right: secure-delete uses the gutmann method
[18:55] <chadams42> -a is append, and I want to reset the groups on that account. besides adding -a does;t change anything
[18:55] <escott> Quest, "*" got expanded by the shell. so thats not what you want
[18:55] <Quest> escott,  meaning?
[18:56] <Goranek> Hey guys, cna someone please hell me with alsamixer & sound? I spend 2 hours trying to make sound work..but no success.. :/ I mean i can make it work on Archlinux..but can't force it to work on Ubuntu Minimal
[18:56] <genii-around> Fuzzles: I think nwipe might have an option for the 35 pass Guttman wipe
[18:56] <MoPac> [GVFS mount question] Hello - can anyone here help me get a Gigolo-connected ftp volume  mounted in /home or another user folder? gvfs-fuse is running butlocation doesn't appear in /hom/****/.gvfs
[18:56] <Goranek> "aplay -l" shows 2 devices ( hda ati sb analog , ati hdmi), i've added my user to group audio
[18:56] <Goranek> pleasee :(
[18:56] <yashi> how do i force one of my displays to 60hz? xrandr lists its compatible if i type xrandr. but im not sure what the name of the display is
[18:57] <MoPac> I'm using nemo as default file manager in case that matters
[18:57] <theadmin> MrHacks: Not directly, no, but "sudo apt-get install mate-archive-keyring" will give you the key after the repo has been added and apt-get update ran.
[18:57] <escott> Quest, meaning if you had file that matched the expression in the working directory then what got executed was "find -name text_1.txt.odt -delete" and not find -name *_1.* -delete
[18:57] <chadams42> sudo usermod -a -G developer developer; groups developer still outputs "chadams"
[18:57] <ovejanegra> hey! I am trying to backup my archives in order to reinstall ubuntu. i am running the live cd now. but i cannot transfer the files because it says i dont have permission to read the folder. please help!
[18:57] <escott> Quest, you want globbing to happen in find not in bash
[18:57] <Quest> question:  how can i save the output of the terminal to a text file ? (i observe scroll has a limit)
[18:58] <escott> Quest, command > output.txt
[18:58] <escott> chadams42, sorry you are trying to remove chadams from developer
[18:58] <MrHacks> That's the thing, theadmin, I added the repo to /etc/apt/sources.list and got the GPG error message saying the key was not available.
[18:58] <Rm55> exit
[18:58] <Quest> escott,  so why it didnt deleted text_1..txt.odt  as it falls in *_1.*
[18:58] <MrHacks> apt-get update didn't like it
[18:59] <jrtappers> Is it possible to make apps for ubuntu in java, and if so what limitations are caused by using it?
[18:59] <theadmin> MrHacks: Right, it won't automatically become available, you need to "apt-get install mate-archive-keyring". It will complain about the package being unauthenticated blah blah, tell it to install anyway, done
[18:59] <chadams42> echinos_: yea
[18:59] <theadmin> MrHacks: Might need to re-run apt-get update after getting the keyring
[19:00] <chadams42> escott: yea I'm trying to remove "chadams" from developer
[19:00] <Fuzzles> genii-around, can you get ir from software centre?
[19:00] <escott> chadams42, so a bit about group membership
[19:00] <ovejanegra> hey! I am trying to backup my archives in order to reinstall ubuntu. i am running the live cd now. but i cannot transfer the files because it says i dont have permission to read the folder. please help!
[19:00] <escott> chadams42, its set at login for the session, so running "groups myself" will output my current active group permissions which may not match what i have in /etc/groups
[19:01] <escott> chadams42, so if you are logged in as developer right now you need to logout first
[19:01] <chadams42> I'm logged in as chadams
[19:01] <Fuzzles> ovejanegra, open terminal and put sudo nautilus to gain permission
[19:02] <Quest> escott,  i just recovered files form formated disk. now i have "afile.ext" and a duplicate "afile_1.ext" too.  iam getting rid of duplicates but i endangeour that i might not delete important files with that wild card
[19:02] <escott> chadams42, and to be clear "developer" is another username which you had previously added to the developer user membership in the chadams group, and you want to undo that
[19:02] <MrHacks> OK. sorry for being stupid. It's just the dumbest thing for someone to set up a repo like that. I
[19:02] <chadams42> escott: yea
[19:03] <chadams42> trying to fix my groups
[19:03] <genii-around> Fuzzles: Yes.
[19:03] <escott> Quest, if they are true duplicate there are dedup tools which will use checksums to identify actual duplicates
[19:03] <Fuzzles> genii-around, whats the program called?
[19:03] <chadams42> escott: my groups are chadams sudo www-data
[19:03] <MrHacks> I'll chew out the guys at #mate later
[19:03] <genii-around> Fuzzles: "nwipe"
[19:03] <chadams42> I'm trying to get this up so that developers have access to the www folder and can all edit
[19:03] <Fuzzles> genii-around, cant find anything under nwiope
[19:03] <Fuzzles> genii-around, nwipe
[19:03] <chadams42> and I can control their access
[19:04] <genii-around> !info nwipe quantal
[19:04] <genii-around> Bah.
[19:04] <Quest> escott,  what do dedup tools do? compare the bytes?
[19:05] <genii-around> Fuzzles: Apologies, it is in my 13.04 in the universe repository, but i guess now that it was only just added
[19:05] <Quest> escott,  so why it didnt deleted text_1..txt.odt  as it falls in *_1.*
[19:05] <Fuzzles> genii-around, so it will come in 13.04?
[19:05] <escott> chadams42, that is weird "sudo usermod -G developer developer" should mean that the "developer" user has only one group namely "developer"
[19:05] <genii-around> !info nwipe raring
[19:06] <chadams42> escott: yea this is why I think I may need to edit the file manually ugh
[19:06] <genii-around> Fuzzles: Yes.
[19:06] <escott> Quest, its find /path/to/start/in -name *pattern* -action
[19:06] <simpson_> Can anyone help me with a cluster?
[19:06] <escott> Quest, so find . -name ...
[19:06] <escott> Quest, but if you have true duplicates then a dedup tool would be safer
[19:07] <escott> chadams42, does usermod not give an error?
[19:07] <chadams42> escott: no
[19:07] <escott> chadams42, messing with those files could be the cause of the problems because you might have some locking issues
[19:07] <chadams42> escott: no error
[19:07] <Quest> escott,  yes. but thats what i was saying
[19:07] <Quest> escott,   text_1..txt.odt  as it falls in *_1.*
[19:07] <ovejanegra> Fuzzles, I did that and it worked. thank you! but then i got some weird messages in the terminal. http://paste.ubuntu.com/1645693/ Can anyone tell me what it means?
[19:08] <escott> chadams42, grep chadams /etc/group
[19:08] <chadams42> sudo:x:27:chadams
[19:08] <chadams42> www-data:x:33:chadams,www-data
[19:08] <chadams42> chadams:x:1000:kelly,www-data
[19:08] <escott> Quest, try '*_1\.*' then
[19:08] <Quest> it says $ find -name *_1.* -delete
 find: paths must precede expression: text_1.txt.odt
[19:08] <chadams42> ugh, sorry all, probably should have PM'ed that
[19:08] <Quest> escott,   text_1.txt.odt  as it falls in *_1.*
[19:08] <Quest> *
[19:08] <MoPac> [GVFS mount question] Hello - can anyone here help me get a Gigolo-connected ftp volume  mounted in /home or another user folder? gvfs-fuse is running butlocation doesn't appear in /hom/****/.gvfs
[19:09] <escott> Quest, find <you need a path here> <you need a quote here>*_1<this might need to be \. not just .>*<another quote here> -delete
[19:09] <Quest> escott,  is it taking . as a regular expression?
[19:09] <Fuzzles> ovejanegra, im not sure when i use that to move files it gives me errors purely because i close the terminal did you do that or close the program when your done?
[19:09] <escott> Quest, find <you need a path here> -name <you need a quote here>*_1<this might need to be \. not just .>*<another quote here> -delete
[19:10] <escott> chadams42, then chadams42 is not in developer. grep developer /etc/group
[19:10] <LiquidDemocracy> Is there a way to extract .vce files on Ubuntu?
[19:10] <ovejanegra> i dont think so
[19:10] <Quest> escott,  i am already in that directory. so path is not needed. is it?
[19:10] <chadams42> escott: developer:x:1003:www-data,developer
[19:11] <escott> Quest, yes it is needed. thats what find keeps telling you
[19:11] <ovejanegra> maybe its because my hdd is flawed
[19:11] <Fuzzles> ovejanegra, i wouldnt worry tbh
[19:11] <yourimym1> hello , i have a problem with my vga driver it's {geforce GT N620 "core edition" 2gb ddr3} , and i tried noueveau but it runs too slow , the i've tried nvidia-current updates and the propritly drive , binary one also , but my desktop vanished after that , then i had to fresh install noueva again , what should i do , btw i tried manually install the driver then i've messed up my pc , and had to re-install , what should i do  to get the right vga that works f
[19:11] <escott> chadams42, and groups developer doesn't print out "www-data developer"
[19:11] <escott> chadams42, sorry got that backwards.
[19:11] <chadams42> escott: it prints "developer : chadams developer"
[19:12] <escott> chadams42, looks ok. groups seems to be confused
[19:12] <escott> chadams42, or groups is somehow out of sync with /etc/groups
[19:12] <Quest> escott,  /media/work/test$ find -name '*_1.*' -ls            is ok?
[19:12] <escott> chadams42, because www-data and developer are the only users in developer group
[19:12] <escott> Quest, NO
[19:13] <sandeepr> i get a SIOCADDRT: No such process while adding a static route via the route add -net command, googled around and am not finding defintive way to add the route
[19:13] <yashi> how do i force one of my displays to 60hz? xrandr lists its compatible if i type xrandr. but im not sure what the name of the display is
[19:13] <chadams42> escott: I was thinking to remove all groups, then add developer to www-data
[19:13] <sandeepr> any one can please help?
[19:13] <escott> Quest, <find . -name '*_1.*'>  or <find . -name '*_1\.*'> i'm not sure which one
[19:13] <Quest> how about $ find /media/work/test -name '*_1.*' -ls
[19:13] <escott> Quest, thats ok
[19:13] <chadams42> escott: so developers can edit the web files under /www
[19:13] <escott> chadams42, you can't add groups to groups
[19:14] <chadams42> developer is a user
[19:14] <escott> chadams42, i think you are confused by the fact that on ubuntu many users have a group of the same name, but its not a recursive structure
[19:14] <chadams42> escott: yea that is cinfusing
[19:14] <escott> chadams42, I'm going to start appending a "U" to every user and a "G" to every group. this is not how it appears in the system though
[19:15] <escott> chadams42, suppose that chadamsU is a member of chadamsG and developerG
[19:15] <escott> chadams42, further suppose that developerU is a member of www-dataG
[19:16] <escott> chadams42, suppose a file is owned by www-dataU:www-dataG. then members of www-dataG can edit that file
[19:16] <unknownFreq> Hello there. Anyone familiar with the PHC cup undervolt module?
[19:16] <unknownFreq> cup = cpu
[19:16] <escott> chadams42, those individuals include: www-dataU and developerU, but does not (and cannot) include developerG because groups cannot be members of groups
[19:17] <escott> chadams42, so chadamsU who is a member of developerG is unaffected by the membership of developerU in www-dataG
[19:17] <chadams42> escott: so I would need to www-dataG to chadamsU to allow chadamsU to edit the files
[19:18] <escott> chadams42, yes "sudo usermod -a -G www-dataG chadamsU" (and of course removing U/G in the actual command)
[19:18] <ozzloy> escott, yay, it's fixed!
[19:18] <escott> ozzloy, cant remember what it was but good!
[19:20] <yourimym1> hi , is any one familiar with nvidia driver issues ?
[19:20] <DoWhileGeek> I like the sleek as phuck design of macbook, does it play nice with ubuntu?
[19:20] <ozzloy> escott, logging in to my account graphically.  it was my .profile.  had a typo
[19:20] <DoWhileGeek> macbook pro/air
[19:20] <escott> !language | DoWhileGeek
[19:21] <DoWhileGeek> escott: I have no idea what your talking about
[19:21] <krilkov> Can someone help please? I lost in lubuntu, the win equivilant of a task bar, how do I get it back?
[19:21] <Quest> escott,  thanks
[19:22] <Quest> escott,  what do dedup tools do precisly, compare bytes?
[19:24] <escott> DoWhileGeek, "easy as ph..."
[19:25] <escott> Quest, essentially
[19:25] <escott> !dedup
[19:25] <escott> Quest, there was a good one, if i can find it again
[19:25] <DoWhileGeek> escott: isnt even a word dude
[19:25] <Quest> escott,  so the theory is that two files cannot have exactly the same number of "bytes" if they are not duplicatis
[19:25] <escott> !info fslint | Quest
[19:26] <escott> DoWhileGeek, thats true of most curse words
[19:26] <idodeisuke> !help
[19:26] <jtek-live> escott, here is that output, sorry for the delay:
[19:26] <jtek-live> luninux@LuninuXOS:~$ sudo parted -l Model: ATA INTEL SSDSA2M080 (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 80.0GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: gpt  Number  Start   End     Size    File system     Name  Flags  1      1049kB  500MB   499MB                         bios_grub  2      500MB   1000MB  500MB   ext2  3      1000MB  3048MB  2048MB  linux-swap(v1)  4      3048MB  80.0GB  77.0GB  btrfs   Error: /dev/sr0: unrecognised d
[19:26] <Quest> escott,  so the theory is that two files cannot have exactly the same number of "bytes" if they are not duplicates*
[19:26] <idodeisuke> !info moo
[19:26] <chadams42> escott: what were those commands again so new files get right group permissions in folders
[19:26] <Quest> escott,  so fslint does that?
[19:26] <escott> !paste | jtek-live
[19:27] <escott> chadams42, you want to setgid on the folder(s) and possibly setuid as well
[19:27] <Oneill> so, my hdd were failing and tried to replace them (raid 1 setup), i replaced one drive and it synced properly, then i tried to replace the other one (expecting the new one already had the proper mirror) but i only get a blinking cursos when i try to boot... any ideias?
[19:27] <escott> chadams42, only on folders though. not on files
[19:28] <escott> Oneill, you probably never installed the bootloader on the other drive
[19:28] <jtek-live>  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14	luninux@LuninuXOS:~$ sudo parted -l Model: ATA INTEL SSDSA2M080 (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 80.0GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: gpt  Number  Start   End     Size    File system     Name  Flags  1      1049kB  500MB   499MB                         bios_grub  2      500MB   1000MB  500MB   ext2  3      1000MB  3048MB  2048MB  linux-swap(v1)  4      3048MB  80.0GB  77.0G
[19:28] <jtek-live> I feel like a newb
[19:28] <escott> jtek-live, not going to read that formated like that. paste.ubuntu.com
[19:28] <jtek-live> pastebin automatically pastes the content in?
[19:28] <escott> jtek-live, no you have to paste it to the website and then send us the link
[19:29] <Oneill> escott, probably not...
[19:29] <escott> !info pastebinit | jtek-live
[19:29] <jtek-live> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1645844/
[19:29] <Oneill> trying to boot from ubuntu livecd
[19:29] <escott> !grub | Oneill you can just follow the "lost grub after installing windows" instructions
[19:29] <Oneill> thanks
[19:29] <Oneill> will ry that
[19:29] <jtek-live> I'm sorry for needing the hand holding there
[19:30] <SuperLag> jtek-live: everyone starts somewhere. If you keep this up, one day you will help in answering the questions. :)
[19:30] <Quest> escott,  busy?