[12:15] <smaggard> how come kubuntu doesnt have the new firefox 2.0 in package manager yet?
[12:15] <smaggard> still <IP_ADDRESS>
[12:16] <smaggard> i fetched updates too...
[12:16] <Schuenemann> I believe edgy does
[12:16] <billytwowilly> because it's in edgy...
[12:16] <billytwowilly> update to new kubuntu...
[12:16] <Schuenemann> I installed it in dapper, though
[12:16] <smaggard> so u mean a new kubuntu comes out and they stop updating packages for the old one?
[12:17] <smaggard> dinners ready bbl
[12:17] <billytwowilly> afaik they never updated the packages in old kubuntu at all.  Just security updates.
[12:17] <smaggard> hmmm
[12:17] <billytwowilly> you must hav a backports repository to get backports
[12:17] <smaggard> so i guess everybody updates
[12:17] <billytwowilly> and those aren't supported by canonical, which probably won't matter to you that much.
[12:18] <billytwowilly> well, if you don't want to update see if it is in backports
[12:18] <Schuenemann> smaggard: I followed a step-by-step tutorial on how to install fx 2, but I can't access web now to find it again
[12:21] <Goofy_OS2> hiho/2
[12:24] <Goofy_OS2> I have Kubuntu v6.10_x64 installed. After a shutdown it will not boot completly. I get message on the screen like: /etc/rcS.d/S20checkroot.sh: 407: readlink: Permissions denied and more lines like Cannot initilaize /etc/mtab or Unable to execute /bin/sh for rc.default... Any idea how to fix?
[12:26] <RoKFiT> I need an ftp applicatoin
[12:26] <RoKFiT> application
[12:26] <cntb> setxkbmap -option grp:lswitch,grp:lalt_toggle,caps:shift_lock,grp_led:scroll,numpad:microsoft,grp:alt_shift_toggle
[12:27] <cntb> cntb> alt+shift  wont change language
[12:28] <aleksanteri> hey has anyone got a link to a page which has the konsole commands?
[12:28] <cox377> can anyone recommend a way to speed up kubuntu???
[12:29] <pablo7> cos377: don't run kde.
[12:30] <cox377> pablo7: Ummm what do u mean? any recommendations?
[12:31] <Goofy_OS2> I have Kubuntu v6.10_x64 installed. After a shutdown it will not boot completly. I get message on the screen like: /etc/rcS.d/S20checkroot.sh: 407: readlink: Permissions denied and more lines like Cannot initilaize /etc/mtab and Unable to execute /bin/sh for rc.default... Any idea how to fix?
[12:31] <UncleDrug> pablo7:  close IRC
[12:31] <cox377> UncleDrug: how come?
[12:32] <UncleDrug> cox377: sarcasm
[12:32] <cox377> UncleDrug: kk
[12:34] <word> how do you re do the mbr for grub after winders overwrites it?
[12:35] <MenZa> !grub
[12:35] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[12:37] <pablo7> cox377: you could try another window manager (like ratpoison), maybe just use the console.
[12:38] <pablo7> UncleDrug: thanks for the advice.
[12:43] <Schalken> How would one go about changing a 60GB reiserfs partition to ext3 without loosing it's data?
[12:49] <aleksanteri> yeah has anyone got a page to konsole commands?
[12:49] <doppelganger_> hey guys, i'm trying to install vmware-workstation now after having used the free vmware player for a while
[12:50] <doppelganger_> it says it won't install because there is another vmware installed
[12:50] <doppelganger_> but i've gone through adept and removed all packages
 a very good question but a very small answer to that try!!!:)
[12:50] <LordOliver> anyone here work with 56k modem compatibility
[12:50] <LordOliver> ?
[12:51] <Schalken> gilt: that would mean just format it which will erase the data :O
 Just transfer the data to another harddisk and format to reisure filesystem
[12:52] <Schalken> gilt: i dont have another disk :(
[12:52] <gilt> copy to dvd
[12:53] <IronM> Hi Kano
[12:53] <IronM> good evening
[12:53] <Schalken> 60gb/4gb=15 dvds!
[12:53] <LordOliver> Schalken: I assume you are backing up windows data, yes?
[12:54] <gilt> no other option because some much data but there is no solution other than this in your situation
[12:54] <LordOliver> or data that is accessed via a Win* OS
[12:54] <Schalken> LordOliver: no...its my linux home partition.
[12:54] <LordOliver> that sucks
[12:54] <LordOliver> I am recovoring from a format myself
[12:55] <gilt> <lordoliver what modem you were talking about
[12:56] <Schalken> actually...if i delete my windows partition and my root partition, i will have enough room to copy the reiserfs partition, format the original to ext3, and copy the data over...
[12:56] <Schalken> but then i have to reinstall widows which is a pain in the ass :(
[12:56] <drack> hola
[12:56] <LordOliver> gilt: well, it seems from what I have read a linmodem is non existant for my architecture (or at least elusive, highly) I am looking at maybe a US ROBOTICS usb modem and I was just wondering if it would be compatible without alot of work
[12:57] <drack> algun latino
[12:58] <gilt> wait a moment let me check
[12:58] <LordOliver> gilt: ok
[12:58] <drack> hola
[12:59] <gilt> <loroliver is it conexant based chip
[12:59] <drack> yap alo
[12:59] <LordOliver> gilt: that ain't good
[01:00] <gilt> <you mean u have tried the linuxant driver
[01:00] <LordOliver> oh well, I guess I can use my old dell as a modem network server and connect it to my lappy via wireless
[01:00] <LordOliver> gilt: yes
[01:01] <gilt> <there r two versions of the linuxant driver: free versus licenced..which one u tried
[01:01] <LordOliver> free
[01:01] <gilt> free only gives 14.4k
[01:01] <gilt> licencedversion will give full speed
[01:02] <LordOliver> gilt: so I have to buy an external modem and then buy a driver to use said modem? I thought they were supposed to be pnp
[01:03] <gilt> well it is linux and you know vendors..they all go for microsoft stuff<:
[01:04] <LordOliver> that blows
[01:04] <billytwowilly> and that is why vista is the best thing for linux since sliced bread. It's poorly compatible with previous apps, so it gives a compelling reason to switch.
[01:04] <billytwowilly> More switchers = more market share = more drivers
[01:05] <ThePub> is there a way to reliably setup kwin to have all windows centered on display 1?  center doesn't seem to do it.
[01:05] <LordOliver> billytwowilly: hmmm... that'd be nice
[01:06] <malik_> hi guyz can some one tell me how to increase the time of the bubble which apears above an icon giving its description?
[01:06] <billytwowilly> malik_: doesn't it just stay if you don't move the  mouse off the icon?
[01:06] <LordOliver> billytwoworth: I believe it collapses in like 10 seconds
[01:06] <gilt> i agree  with billtwowilly
[01:06] <coreymon77> guys
[01:06] <coreymon77> i cant get a krfb thing working
[01:06] <coreymon77> he sends me the invite
[01:07] <coreymon77> i open it
[01:07] <coreymon77> and it says that there is no server operating at that host and port
[01:07] <billytwowilly> k, then I have no idea how to fix your problem malik;) And here I thought I was being all smart and stuff;)
[01:07] <RawSewage> Question:  I ran sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  then ESC before finishing.  now it says it's locked.  how can I unlock it
[01:07] <coreymon77> i mean
[01:07] <BluesKaj> good question malik_, I've been wondering that myself ,and i'm a pretty fast reader...collapses in more like 3 secs
[01:07] <RawSewage> I already tried sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:08] <coreymon77> connection failed. no server running at the given adress and port
[01:08] <malik_> no it disappears after abt 3 or 4 second .............im specially talkin abt time clock in the task bar coz i have added few timezones n its bubble is not long enuf to let me chk out all the time zones
[01:08] <LordOliver> this is probably a #D question, but has anyhere tried/installed the D compiler?
[01:08] <gilt> hello everybody...can anbody tell me where to get video 4 linyx 2 with framework version 2.0
[01:09] <BluesKaj> or read whats playing on streamtuner thru xmms
[01:09] <billytwowilly> oooh.. one better than c;) but is it better than C++? how much awesome do the two plus signs give?
[01:09] <malik_> yeppers u r right mate.......but whats the remedy?............any idea guyz?
[01:10] <LordOliver> malik_: I just timed it 8 seconds
[01:10] <RawSewage>  /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process
[01:10] <RawSewage> How do I unlock it
[01:10] <billytwowilly> it collapses fast on edgy.. darn.
[01:11] <BluesKaj> I think it's in system settings/ window behavior...but I'm not sure what control it is , malik_
[01:11] <LordOliver> billytwowilly: nope, I am on edgy, 8 seconds
[01:11] <LordOliver> maybe it is processor specific
[01:11] <malik_> in my installtion its just abt 4 esc plus im slow.................:(........okie i ll have a look
[01:11] <billytwowilly> LordOliver:  are you on some weird euro version?;) I swear it is 3 seconds here. I just timed it.
[01:12] <malik_> plus how do u send me the msg in red?............sorry if it sounds too stupid but i dont know how to use things in irc?
[01:12] <moS-uu>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY
[01:12] <LordOliver> billytwowilly: x86_64 from the good 'ol USof A
[01:13] <cntb> ->   /msg NickServ IDENTIFY Pa5sw0rD moS-uu
[01:13] <coreymon77> malik_:  type the persons name you want it to appear red to and then a : infront of your message
[01:13] <LordOliver> or a ',' works
[01:13] <cntb> np malik
[01:13] <billytwowilly> LordOliver: i386 that's weird that it is different though. Are you using beryl or something? Mine's just the default install.. oh wait, update from breezy, so maybe that is breezy's setting..
[01:13] <cntb> malik_, np
[01:14] <malik_> thanx gyz
[01:14] <LordOliver> billytwowilly: I was going to use Beryl, but the install seems like too much work for so little reward
[01:15] <LordOliver> just like trying to NDIS wrapper in Zod
[01:15] <LordOliver> *to install
[01:15] <billytwowilly> LordOliver: it's probably a breezy setting then
[01:16] <LordOliver> billytwowilly: you ever try making Beryl work?
[01:18] <BluesKaj> it's a bitch with ATI cards , LordOliver ...ben trying all day off and on but I keep getting the message that XGL isn't found ..
[01:18] <ThePub> LordOliver: none of the composite servers are worth the time, unless you only use a desktop like a show car :)
[01:18] <ThePub> BluesKaj: I read somewhere that the ATI driver doesn't support compositing.
[01:19] <moS-uu> hm, what happend to /etc/inittab in edgy, does someone know?
[01:19] <galathalion> anyone got a sombrerohat for sale+
[01:19] <LordOliver> ThePub: I spend 90% of my time in the terminal
[01:19] <BluesKaj> well, ThePub you may be right but in the wkis there are some who claim it works
[01:20] <LordOliver> BluesKaj: ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M :(
[01:20] <BluesKaj> yup, LordOliver
[01:20] <LordOliver> ThePub: hmmm... making it look pretty is always nice :)
[01:20] <BluesKaj> managed to get direct rendering tow ork but that was it
[01:21] <ThePub> LordOliver: it can look pretty without wiggly though windows surely?
[01:21] <LordOliver> ThePub: of course, just gotta watch out of themes that say "Best with Beryl" or crazy shit happens
[01:21] <ThePub> er.. swap that "though" and "windows", then add a comma after them.
[01:22] <LordOliver> ThePub: I got it... I normally hang out at ##C so I have seem some horrible 3 graderish typing
[01:23] <LordOliver> though I would like it to look like Mac OSX
[01:23] <ThePub> LordOliver: I suppose that is a bonus, being compared to third grade writing!
[01:23] <ThePub> So buy a mac? :)
[01:23] <LordOliver> ThePub: can't stand the OS, just like how it looks :)
[01:26] <LordOliver> ThePub: I have a Mac anyhow
[01:27] <sdlnxgk> anyone know how to set an environment variable for BROSWER????
[01:27] <BluesKaj> daughter just bought an refurb'd IMAC tiger for her graphics work
[01:27] <ThePub> LordOliver: I'm not too infatuated with the various versions of osX UI.. grew up on MacOS and the new operating system is a poor excuse for an apple creation imo.
[01:32] <LordOliver> ThePub: I am running 8.3(?) on my MAC
[01:34] <jetc> hrmm...windows effect for beryl don't work
[01:34] <jetc> :-/
[01:35] <Endler> Does anyone have kilot working properly in 6.10?  My snyc stops at 30%.  Read it was a bug in the KDE 3.5.5 version, that's been patched in the CVS.  It there an edgy package available somewhere?
[01:35] <Guest232> hello?
[01:36] <Endler> Hello guest.
[01:36] <Sergi0> hi reallylinuxn00b
[01:36] <reallylinuxn00b> I recently installed Kubuntu, and have a broadcom wifi network card (linksys). I need to know how to install it.
[01:37] <malik_> guyz still no luck with finding a way to increase the duration of popup bubble in kubuntu..................any idea where can i find it?
[01:37] <reallylinuxn00b> ...
[01:40] <Endler> I've never installed a broadcom based card, but most wireless cards turn out being a pain in the ass to install under Linux.  It's one of it's Achilles heals, unfortunately, so don't expect it to be too easy..
[01:42] <Endler> I guess everyone has started their weekend and is out having fun.  It's usually a lot busier in here.
[01:42] <ubuntu__> ola
[01:43] <notech> reallylinuxn00b: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:43] <LordOliver> reallylinuxn00b: install automatix2 then download then google your broadcom and download that it is really easy in kubuntu
[01:44] <LjL> !automatix
[01:44] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:44] <LordOliver> LjL: automatix2 works damn good for installing the NDIS wrapper
[01:44] <notech> broadcom shouldn't be much of a problem using ndiswrapper
[01:44] <Amority> has anyone had a problem where when they connect a USB device, it is recognized and asks what you wish to do, but after you select open in new window, it doesnt do anything? I dont why this has been happening lately :S
[01:45] <LjL> alright i'm not even gonna argue
[01:45] <notech> LordOliver: but why use something so risky when it's pretty simple following the docs?
[01:46] <LordOliver> notech: not motivated to do it the hard way when the easy way works just fine
[01:46] <notech> LordOliver: guess you never looked at the docs, its not hard
[01:46] <danychouinard> I've been able to enable my TVOUT on my HP laptop, how do I quickly switch to a lower resolution?
[01:46] <LordOliver> notech: plus, it was a fresh install so what was the worse to happen, I spend 20 minutes installing it again?
[01:47] <Amority> no one has ever encountered my USB mounting problem?
[01:47] <LordOliver> Amority: I don't know what is up... is the usb device on the desktop?
[01:47] <uptopux> hola
[01:47] <notech> LordOliver: whatever, but might be noce if you were to warn people about these risky apps when you suggest them. others may not want to reinstall
[01:48] <Amority> LordOliver, no it isnt. Lately when I connect a USB device, it will pop up asking what I want to do. After that it does nothing. The icon doesnt even appear anymore and the device isnt found in 'storage media'
[01:48] <vado> Bondoir
[01:49] <LordOliver> Amority: I am assuming just a small usb storage device?
[01:49] <Amority> For the most part, yes. Im also trying to connect my Camera, which (in the past) would be recognized like a USB storage device
[01:49] <danychouinard> Amority: Anything in dmesg?
[01:49] <LordOliver> notech: if I am to warn people of all the dangers in the world, I would be busy for along time
[01:50] <Amority> danychouinard, .. what do you mean dmesg? sorry Im still new. Is that a command?
[01:50] <LordOliver> Amority: try and find out
[01:50] <Amority> ok
[01:50] <Amority> ok :D
[01:50] <LordOliver> Amority: at least man it
[01:51] <Amority> it says :
[01:51] <Amority> [17217221.792000]  usb-storage: device scan complete
[01:51] <Amority> [17217341.556000]  usb 1-1: USB disconnect, address 2
[01:51] <LordOliver> if I am playing Mr Saftey always man a new command before use
[01:51] <danychouinard> amority : try and find out :)  But do it in a konsolne
[01:51] <danychouinard> konsole
[01:51] <Amority> there's more to it but thats all i could find that had USB in it
[01:51] <LordOliver> wow, that is one short man page
[01:52] <Amority> LordOliver :P i just pasted the bottom
[01:52] <LordOliver> Amority: no I just man'ed "dmesg"
[01:52] <notech> LordOliver: that's pathetic. do whatever you want, you can always change nicks or something after helping a few destroy their systems. i'v got no more to say.
[01:53] <Amority> is there a mount command that I can use?
[01:53] <Endler> I've used automatix on two systems   without any issues.
[01:54] <LordOliver> Amority: for future refrence to learn about a command use man <command>
[01:54] <Amority> ok thanks LordOliver
[01:54] <Amority> woah :D I see now
[01:55] <LordOliver> notech: is it safe to use "man" or should I war people about the power of knowledge also?
[01:55] <danychouinard> lol
[01:55] <LordOliver> Amority: if there is also info <command> sometimes it has different info
[01:55] <Amority> ok thanks :D
[01:56] <LordOliver> no problem
[01:56] <notech> LordOliver: stupid question since using man to learn a command will not possibly destroy a system.
[01:56] <danychouinard> I'm in KDE, should I be able to quickly witch resolution?
[01:57] <LordOliver> notech: what if the command they learn causes massive system failure?
[01:57] <mike-linux> where do I find all needed codecs etc/
[01:57] <mike-linux> what repo?
[01:57] <cpk1> libxine-extracodecs
[01:57] <Amority> universe and multiverse i think
[01:58] <mike-linux> ok I am new to kubuntu
[01:58] <notech> LordOliver: user error, not caused by using a risky app. now please quit using my nick. i do not agree with advising risky apps with no warning and never will, you do.
[01:58] <malik_> yes multiverse n universe
[01:58] <cpk1> !libxine-extracodecs
[01:58] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB
[01:58] <mike-linux> and vlc,w32,jre all in there?
[01:58] <danychouinard> me bad, sorry.  I only have one resolution listed in my xorg.conf, I guess my ctrl-alt-minus would be working now.
[01:59] <malik_> yes
[01:59] <LordOliver> it is the wrong time of the month for someone I see
[01:59] <malik_> but for jr u need to follow the instructions on the ubuntu or kubuntu hel pages
[01:59] <reallylinuxn00b> hi. I'm still having trouble installing my wifi card driver.
[02:00] <malik_> plus u dont really need to install jre on kubuntu
[02:00] <reallylinuxn00b> ^
[02:00] <mike-linux> for frostwire
[02:00] <LordOliver> malik_: some Java IDE's require it
[02:01] <Alter-Ego> in kontact, there is a spot for locality and region, where does state fall in this ?
[02:01] <malik_> okie then if u need it(jre) follow simple instruction on help pages of ur distro
[02:01] <fangorious> the livecd isn't displaying in 1680x1050, even though it put that as the default res in xorg.conf (and it is the native res of my display)
[02:01] <LordOliver> Alter-Ego: I would assume region
[02:03] <mike-linux> can I save /home?
[02:03] <CaBlGuY> !gaim
[02:03] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[02:03] <LordOliver> mike-linux: what do you mean?
[02:03] <LordOliver> it should say "poorly supporting MSN"
[02:04] <CaBlGuY> how would I go about upgrading gaim?
[02:04] <mike-linux> when installing I would like to save /home  petition
[02:05] <LordOliver> CaBlGuy: download the new one, and follow the instructions in the INSTALL file
[02:05] <CaBlGuY> LordOliver:  k..
[02:06] <Endler> It makes life a lot easier if you use a separate partition for home.
[02:06] <LordOliver> CaBlGuY: to keep various people around here happy... there are risks associated with Gaim
[02:06] <mike-linux> Endler: I have from a prevoius install
[02:07] <mike-linux> and would like to save it ,:and in debian etch installer
[02:07] <mike-linux> as^^
[02:07] <Endler> Oh, then upgrading shouldn't be a problem.  Just make sure you tell the installer to mount, but not format your home partition
[02:07] <mike-linux> Endler: cheers
[02:08] <mike-linux> brb 20 min ,,,install
[02:08] <CaBlGuY> LOL   yea, I  kinda know that already LordOliver, thanks anyway..  ;-)
[02:10] <danychouinard> I'm back, I was not able to switch xorg resolution after all
[02:11] <LordOliver> that sucks... I am too risky to help though ;)
[02:13] <danychouinard> When I was on ubuntu 5.10, I had that switch resolution application.  Is there something similar in KDE?
[02:15] <thill2708> how do I get my program into the repositories?
[02:15] <crimsun> thill2708: see the topic in #ubuntu-motu
[02:15] <CaBlGuY> ok, how do I install the gaim .rpm package?
[02:15] <thill2708> thanks
[02:16] <crimsun> CaBlGuY: why not use the included version in the repository? You can use adept, apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, dselect to install it
[02:16] <LordOliver> danychouinard: there is a resapplet in the repositories
[02:16] <CaBlGuY> I got 1.5 already installed, I wanna upgrade to 2.0
[02:17] <crimsun> CaBlGuY: which kubuntu release are you using?
[02:17] <danychouinard> LordOliver: looking.  thanks
[02:17] <CaBlGuY> ummm   6.0 I think...
[02:17] <crimsun> CaBlGuY: ``lsb_release -r''
[02:17] <LordOliver> danychouinard: but, I am forced to tell, you that it may not be safe ;-)
[02:17] <danychouinard> I almost asked :D
[02:18] <LordOliver> danychouinard: I installed and it seems cool on my system though
[02:18] <CaBlGuY> 6.06
[02:18] <gator> I dont want to interupt - so Ill ask and then wait for someone to respond - Ive a little question about an nvidia graphics card...any help would be greatly appriciated...
[02:18] <danychouinard> Is the a way to query the package description beforehand - in case it is not safe for example?
[02:19] <danychouinard> from the CLI of course
[02:19] <danychouinard> gator:just ask
[02:19] <CaBlGuY> crimsun:  should I just get the Ubuntu upgrade?
[02:20] <noiesmo> !ask | gator
[02:20] <ubotu> gator: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:20] <CaBlGuY> gator:  do you have drivers installed yet?
[02:20] <crimsun> CaBlGuY: gaim hasn't been backported to 6.06
[02:20] <gator> I dont know what driver to use - I go through the vid setup - and I see drivers for my card - but the system says its a diff one...Im afraid if I change it, it might fart on me....
[02:20] <gator> I think I do....
[02:20] <gator> It says nv
[02:21] <CaBlGuY> gator:  do you get the Nvidia splash screen when u boot??
[02:21] <noiesmo> gator, open konsole type lspci | grep VGA
[02:21] <gator> nope...
[02:21] <gator> well maybe
[02:21] <CaBlGuY> K, u aint got them installed
[02:21] <gator> do you mean the text at the top showing the specs....
[02:21] <noiesmo> gator, that will tell you what card you have
[02:21] <CaBlGuY> crimsun:  so, upgrade Ubuntu then..  yes?
[02:22] <mike-linux> I am unable to install!
[02:22] <gator> yep - I actually still have the box - it says its a geforce fx 5500 but the sys says its an geforce 4
[02:22] <crimsun> CaBlGuY: I wouldn't do that just to get a newer version of gaim.
[02:22] <CaBlGuY> gator:  OK, u got the same card I do.
[02:22] <noiesmo> gator, check this its the easiest it downloads the latest driver of the net or you can use the nvidoia-glx from repos
[02:22] <CaBlGuY> crimsun:  well, I need to upgrade my Ubuntu anyway..   to get the new bells n wistles..  :p
[02:23] <mike-linux> My lcd screen gets muddled during install?
[02:23] <CaBlGuY> !tell gator about glxr
[02:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glxr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:23] <CaBlGuY> !tell gator about glx
[02:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about glx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:23] <CaBlGuY> there
[02:23] <CaBlGuY> dangit..  :/
[02:23] <gator> which works best - -plus should I try the ones listed - Im running kubuntu 6.10
[02:23] <noiesmo> gator, http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html <-- link to download site the apps on launchpad also
[02:23] <LordOliver> mike-linux: is it truly LCD?
[02:24] <mike-linux> 1024x768 lcd=yes
[02:24] <danychouinard> LordOliver:resapplet is cool, worked pretty well.   I'm just tryin to remeber.. :p
[02:25] <CaBlGuY> Listen to noiesmo..  ;)
[02:25] <LordOliver> has anyone ever installed D compiler on edgy?
[02:26] <gator> okay - Ill give it a run...thanks, Ill come back and let you know if I can....lol
[02:26] <crimsun> LordOliver: yes, it required a fair bit of work, but it's certainly feasible.
[02:26] <CaBlGuY> gator:  if you get the driver installed right..  you'll know..  ;)
[02:26] <gator> cool thnks again....ltr
[02:26] <LordOliver> crimsum: damn, I was hoping for the quick and dirty
[02:26] <CaBlGuY> c-ya o/
[02:26] <noiesmo> gator, just check my site notes
[02:26] <LordOliver> crimsun: damn, I was hoping for the quick and dirty
[02:27] <danychouinard> LordOliver: anyway, I did not follow what append first, but I know that one cannot complain for not doing there homework.
[02:27] <CaBlGuY> eeewww    quick n dirty..   just like the street walkers..   :p
[02:27] <noiesmo> !envy
[02:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about envy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:27] <crimsun> noiesmo: use standard blootbot syntax
[02:27] <noiesmo> how can we add envy to bot
[02:27] <LordOliver> crimsun: did you ever find a kubuntu friendly IDE for D?
[02:27] <crimsun> envy is blahblahblah
[02:28] <crimsun> LordOliver: I'm an nvi user.
[02:28] <malik_> LordOliver: is it possible to have restore session or restore a closed tab function of opera in konqueror?.........or there exists any extension for konqueror?
[02:28] <noiesmo> crimsun, I havent done before sorry dont know howto
[02:28] <crimsun> noiesmo: what is envy?
[02:28] <LordOliver> malik_: Opera works fine under kubuntu
[02:29] <BluesKaj> I like opera at times for something different , and itworks very well
[02:29] <noiesmo> crimsun, envy is a pearl script that install's nvidia drivers from nvidia very easy
[02:30] <noiesmo> crimsun, i used it and it works great
[02:30] <malik_> LordOliver:i tried opera but it didnt detect any multimedia plugins n i tried alotta different packages n ways, wasting my time for abt a wk b4 i got rid of it coz it wont play any thing off of the internet.
[02:30] <noiesmo> crimsun, here's the home page http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[02:31] <noiesmo> crimsun, project is registared on launchpad
[02:31] <noiesmo> crimsun, https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[02:31] <SupremeBeing> crimsun: Hey I remember you =) my name before was ColonelKernel :)
[02:31] <BluesKaj> one of best test of a browser for plugins is youtube , yahoo, amazon music sites
[02:32] <malik_> otherwise it was faster than konqueror n displays webfonts better
[02:32] <LordOliver> malik_: firefox?
[02:33] <crimsun> ubotu: envy is a Perl script that eases installation of the official Nvidia drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy
[02:33] <LordOliver> crimsun: don't forget the inherent risks involving scripts
[02:33] <LordOliver> ;-)
[02:34] <ScottA> Can anyone help me set up my wireless LAN?
[02:34] <malik_> LordOliver:firefox starts crashing alot and becomes slow after i install all the extensions to have all the features  of opera.............konqueror is working grately just one fucntion is missing which is restore closed tab or last session of tabs. if u r a programmer cant u guyz make some code into it n make it easy for all of us :)
[02:34] <ScottA> well, connect to my existing lan.
[02:34] <Jucato> !wireless
[02:35] <SupremeBeing> ScottA: sure
[02:35] <ScottA> I recently installed Kubuntu, and need to install the drivers for my wifi card, but don't know how.
[02:35] <Jucato> malik_: you can somewhat imitate the "last session of tabs" in Konqueror, but you have to do it manually...
[02:35] <SupremeBeing> ScottA: Are you sure you need to install the drivers?  I never have had to
[02:36] <SupremeBeing> ScottA: Have you tried simply using Wireless Assistant?
[02:36] <LordOliver> hmm... malik_, I am using firefox and it is fast enough, but I will look at konq for you
[02:36] <ScottA> Wireless Assistant doesn't recognize a connection
[02:36] <ScottA> its a linksys card
[02:36] <ScottA> it works fine in windows.
[02:36] <SupremeBeing> ScottA: Mine's linksys too.  Hmm, is your network encrypted?
[02:36] <ScottA> no
[02:36] <malik_> jucato: how do we do that?............can u point me in the right direction?
[02:36] <ScottA> how did you get yours to work?
[02:36] <LordOliver> ScottA: kcontrol and is eth0 disabled?
[02:37] <ScottA> hld.
[02:37] <SupremeBeing> ScottA: I just opened Wireless assistant and hit refresh, found my network, connected
[02:37] <ScottA> eth0 is disables.
[02:37] <Jucato> malik_: Settings -> Save View Profile will save the opened tabs (make sure the "Save URLs in profile" option is enabled)
[02:37] <ScottA> *disabled
[02:37] <SupremeBeing> is it pci or usb?
[02:38] <ScottA> pci
[02:39] <HabaKKuk> hello
[02:39] <HabaKKuk> im looking for english native speakers
[02:39] <HabaKKuk> ;/
[02:39] <SupremeBeing> Plenty here :)
[02:40] <HabaKKuk> are u one of them ?
[02:40] <HabaKKuk> ;)
[02:40] <malik_> Jucato: yes thats true but that is like a backup....................personally i still love opera n god knows i crave for it. its way faster than other browsers
[02:40] <LordOliver> malik_ that is true, it is just not supported well/at all
[02:41] <Jucato> remember I said you can "imitate"? I didn't say it was exactly the same
[02:41] <malik_> LordOliver: yes i know and i cant understand why the linux community doesnt like opera?
[02:42] <Jucato> malik_: 2 words: closed source
[02:42] <hans> malik_: is opera open source?
[02:42] <LordOliver> malik_: I think it may be too sunish for them linux people have unix/sun nightmares ;-)
[02:42] <Jucato> anyway, the whole linux community doesn't "doesn't like" opera
[02:43] <pacman> what's the easiest way to move a folder from my buddies linux server to my computer
[02:43] <SupremeBeing> Firefox is only about 8 million times better
[02:43] <Jucato> mostly just those who are really conscious about free/open source software
[02:43] <malik_> well opera has on their website different packages for nearly all the major linux flavours so im guessing on some level it is open source or free to use
[02:43] <LordOliver> telnet
[02:43] <hans> malik_: and by the way, for me it's not just that opera is closed source there are better open source browsers available
[02:43] <Jucato> malik_: free as in free beer, not free/open source
[02:44] <Jucato> tbh, though, opera is good
[02:44] <larson999> i like opera but it seems like it's not as friendly to some of the 'wild' code out there.
[02:44] <Jucato> and one of the best when it comes to mobile browsers
[02:44] <mike-linux> I get a pink screen when trying to install
[02:44] <mike-linux> fine line
[02:44] <hans> opera is great, firefox is better with the plugins
[02:45] <mike-linux> v^
[02:45] <SupremeBeing> Firefox + NoScript = God
[02:45] <larson999> i'd prefer opera if a few of the sites i use worked better with it.
[02:45] <hans> and addblock plus
[02:45] <SupremeBeing> that too  :) adblock is great
[02:45] <Jucato> anyway... it's all about choice. you have a choice, so there
[02:45] <SupremeBeing> and the web developer plugin is wonderful
[02:45] <Jucato> getting close to being -offtopic here
[02:46] <SupremeBeing> it's tangently related, all good
[02:46] <hans> and flashblock
[02:46] <SupremeBeing> ubotu left the server?!
[02:46] <SupremeBeing> lol
[02:46] <mike-linux> anyone else had probs installing/
[02:46] <SupremeBeing> mike-linux: installing what?
[02:46] <Ubotwo> Sorry, package searching is not available - try http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:46] <hans> mike-linux: lots of ppl have had problems
[02:47] <SupremeBeing> mike-linux: are you using a downloaded iso or a ship-it cd?
[02:47] <mike-linux> I get a pink screen early innto the install process
[02:47] <mike-linux> iso is good
[02:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about left the server?! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:47] <malik_> hans: any suggestions other than firefox which will work in kubuntu............. already using konqueror but not gr8ly impressed ..........tho it gets the job done..............but missing  good mouse gestures n restoring closed tabs
[02:48] <hans> konquerror malik_
[02:48] <hans> not much else
[02:48] <Jucato> malik_: mouse gestures in KDE are global. they don't apply only to Konqueror
[02:48] <larson999> malik_ you looking for a browser?
[02:49] <mike-linux> SupremeBeing: downloaded
[02:49] <SupremeBeing> mike-linux: Did you run checksums?
[02:49] <hans> malik_: but by all means use opera
[02:49] <mike-linux> yes
[02:49] <mike-linux> all good
[02:49] <mike-linux> fine live
[02:50] <malik_> well i suppose one can use opera but then again for multimedia files i wud have to use konquerror........so its kinda pain
[02:50] <Jucato> konqueror also has a crash recovery plugin. and like I said earlier, you can manually save opened tabs. those 2 are enough for me to match Firefox's/Opera's similar features
[02:50] <Jucato> apokryphos: huh?
[02:50] <apokryphos> Jucato: problems with ubotu, so got a temporary replacement -- Ubotwo
[02:50] <LordOliver> kate': not bad... maybe not so good for me to pause Casino Royale, but not bad :-)
[02:50] <Jucato> apokryphos: ah no wonder that clone is there.... :)
[02:51] <LordOliver> oops, wrong channel
[02:51] <larson999> malik_ why can't you use opera for mulitmedia files?  there's also seamonky, mozilla.
[02:51] <LordOliver> seamonky is scary
[02:51] <SupremeBeing> I hate seamonkey
[02:51] <SupremeBeing> it's like Firefox for retarded people
[02:52] <SupremeBeing> jk lol
[02:52] <shadowhywind> stupid question, how does one remount a file-system as rewriteable from the konsole
[02:52] <LordOliver> man mount
[02:52] <hans> remount -o rw ??
[02:53] <LordOliver> man remount
[02:53] <LordOliver> it ain't that hard
[02:53] <larson999> i like seamonkey and mozilla for some things
[02:53] <malik_> larson999: i cudnt figure out how to make opera detect multimedia plugins n play video files off the net altho it was playin youtube files but bbc and npr.org and sydney morning herald n couple other ethnic sites were not working at all
[02:53] <SupremeBeing> malik_: That's because Firefox is better XD
[02:54] <larson999> malik_: oh?  i thought all i did was the same thing i did to get them to play in ff
[02:54] <digitalfreedom> my firefox hngs up sometimes loading pages
[02:54] <mf_debian> mount -o remount,rw /dev/something
[02:54] <SupremeBeing> digitalfreedom: Don't blame the browser =P probably ur lack of connection speed and/or RAM
[02:54] <hans> mf_debian: yep thats it
[02:55] <digitalfreedom> on the mandriva boards i here ppl speak of a "cooker" real fast could some tell what this "cooker" is?
[02:55] <mf_debian> digitalfreedom: same as sid
[02:55] <larson999> cooker is kinda lik edgy
[02:55] <digitalfreedom> ok now if i knew what sid was..id be happy
[02:55] <mf_debian> no edgy is stable now
[02:55] <malik_> may be i stuffed up somewhere but thing is no one on those days was free to help i asked for help alot but no answer so i tried alotta stuff on my own n it didnt really worked
[02:56] <mf_debian> sid == still in development, debian unstable branch
[02:56] <malik_> cooker is the apt-get of mandriva far as i know
[02:56] <digitalfreedom> dewd if got 1 gig of ram and i connect t 3306 ok its not me
[02:56] <digitalfreedom> firefox hangs and thats the end of it
[02:56] <larson999> cooker is kinda like the next edgy :)
[02:57] <digitalfreedom> hmmmmm neat
[02:57] <malik_> larson999: may be i stuffed up somewhere but thing is no one on those days was free to help i asked for help alot but no answer so i tried alotta stuff on my own n it didnt really worked
[02:57] <malik_> larson999: are u using opera?
[02:57] <shadowhywind> does my fstab have to have rw in it?
[02:58] <digitalfreedom> rw ?
[02:58] <mf_debian> shadowhywind: no
[02:58] <mf_debian> shadowhywind: defaults is fine for most partitions
[02:59] <shadowhywind> because i am doing mount -o ro /dev/hda1 and it still comes back as read-only file system
[02:59] <mf_debian> ro == read only rw == read write
[02:59] <mf_debian> which do you want?
[02:59] <hans> shadowhywind: is that a windows file sytem
[02:59] <shadowhywind> vfat
[03:00] <shadowhywind> thanks that worked
[03:00] <kn0ck0ut> anxious for upcoming version 7........... 3D desktop seems promising
[03:00] <kn0ck0ut> it is gonna blow vista
[03:00] <digitalfreedom> vista blows
[03:00] <shadowhywind> oh when i was looking at the man page, i read the wrong line, hehe
[03:01] <larson999> malik_: i am not.  i'm away from home staying in a hotel and not on my main machine
[03:01] <kn0ck0ut> I been away from linux a long time, just installed kubuntu two weeks ago I am loving it
[03:01] <digitalfreedom> version 7 of what?
[03:01] <digitalfreedom> kubuntu is the kill
[03:02] <coreymon77> guys
[03:02] <coreymon77> i accidentally pressed hide menubar in konqueror
[03:02] <coreymon77> how do i get the menubar back
[03:02] <digitalfreedom> hahah
[03:02] <kn0ck0ut> Ubuntu 7.04 Feisty Fawn Herd 1
[03:02] <kn0ck0ut> that is what I am talking about
[03:03] <hans> coreymon77: try [Alt] [Tab]
[03:03] <kn0ck0ut> W coreymon77
[03:03] <kn0ck0ut> hit F9
[03:03] <malik_> coreymon : press ctrl=m
[03:03] <malik_> ctrl+m
[03:04] <coreymon77> thank you malik
[03:04] <malik_> welcome mate
[03:04] <kn0ck0ut> sorry was confused with the sidebar
[03:06] <digitalfreedom> no i look fatter holding zilla
[03:11] <pacman> okay, I'm a dumbass
[03:11] <pacman> someone help me out here
[03:11] <pacman> I want snag a folder off my buddies server, and put it on my desktop
[03:12] <mike-linux> pacman: whats broken?
[03:12] <pacman> what is it: scp <folder name> *<???>
[03:12] <aseigo> pacman: konqi is your friend
[03:12] <mike-linux> I cannot even install
[03:12] <digitalfreedom> install what mnike?
[03:12] <aseigo> pacman: open konqueror and type fish://user@server/path
[03:12] <aseigo> pacman: drag 'n drop to your hearts content
[03:12] <mike-linux> Feisty
[03:12] <aseigo> pacman: there's also sftp://
[03:13] <pacman> holy crap, batman
[03:13] <pacman> I've never done the fish:// business before....
[03:14] <ThePub> hmm, can amarok play modules?
[03:14] <digitalfreedom> yahoo just died
[03:14] <pacman> my yahoo just died too
[03:14] <digitalfreedom> kopete is geeking out
[03:14] <flaccid> guys looking for a program to look at what iso format my cd is?
[03:14] <aseigo> pacman: it just uses ssh but it's ++useful
[03:14] <digitalfreedom> wow really pacman?
[03:14] <pacman> yeah
[03:15] <Jucato> flaccid: k3b?
[03:15] <aseigo> Jucato: sftp requires sftp turned on in your ssh daemon.
[03:15] <Jucato> aseigo: ah ok. thanks :)
[03:15] <aseigo> Jucato: fish uses plain ol' ssh
[03:15] <pacman> is it Kopete or Yahoo that's down?
[03:15] <flaccid> hmm where would i go Jucato?
[03:15] <digitalfreedom> its yahoo my moms died
[03:15] <digitalfreedom> and she is on xp
[03:15] <Jucato> pacman: both are fine here
[03:15] <ThePub> pacman: Kopete can't go 'down' it's just a client.
[03:15] <pacman> hmm
[03:15] <digitalfreedom> i.l try again
[03:16] <digitalfreedom> nope
[03:16] <digitalfreedom> lastnight i got a message about yahoo doing work on the system
[03:16] <flaccid> Jucato: k3b says its iso9660. i mounted it but cannot see any files
[03:16] <Jucato> !iso
[03:16] <ubotu> To mount an ISO disc image, type "sudo mount -o loop my.iso <mountpoint>" There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before burning.
[03:17] <flaccid> i'll try that thanks
[03:17] <flaccid> um
[03:17] <flaccid> no thats an iso
[03:18] <flaccid> i want to mount my iso9660 cd which is apple computer type 002
[03:18] <malik_> hey guyz my amarok wont add my music to the library saying taglib package might be broken ...........i have uninstalled n then reinstalled it off the net with apt-get but still same prob...................any idea?
[03:18] <digitalfreedom> i do have a real question tho....i got this file and its a .package extension how do i install this? nvr seen that ext b4
[03:18] <Jucato> pacman: spoke too soon, Yahoo's dying on me too
[03:18] <pacman> jucato that sucks
[03:19] <LordOliver> yahoo, just kicked it on me also
[03:19] <Jucato> now I don't know whether that's just Yahoo-KOpete, or Kopete in general
[03:19] <digitalfreedom> its crapping out guys i cant see it now...the servers maps are all going blank
[03:19] <Jucato> err. I meant Yaho in general
[03:20] <digitalfreedom> this is soooooooooooo WEAK
[03:20] <LordOliver> yahoo server maps are a joke, they are the equivlant to saying "why sure I will drop my pants and take it up the ass"
[03:21] <digitalfreedom> hhahahah @ Lord Oli
[03:22] <digitalfreedom> thats true tho
[03:22] <ThePub> yahoo put out a message last night they were going down about this time for updates
[03:22] <digitalfreedom> i got that but didnt believe it]
[03:22] <digitalfreedom> thought it was spam
[03:22] <digitalfreedom> guess not :-P
[03:26] <LordOliver> digitalfreedom: spam? me? flame yes, spam is just not healthy
[03:26] <malik_> hey guyz can any1 help me?.................... my amarok wont add my music to the library saying taglib package might be broken ...........i have uninstalled n then reinstalled it off the net with apt-get but still same prob...................any idea?
[03:26] <LordOliver> I use noaton
[03:27] <BluesKaj> does anyone's browser play this movie? http://homepage.mac.com/savagebean/iMovieTheater11.html   ... if so lemme know what plugins I'm missing
[03:28] <Skeez187> How do I use different wallpapers for the 4 virtual desktops?
[03:29] <Jucato> Skeez187: choose the desktop you want to apply the wallpaper to in the drop down list at the top
[03:29] <flaccid> what is the native gui mount tool to kubuntu
[03:29] <malik_> LordOliver: whats Noaton?
[03:30] <noiesmo> BluesKaj, mozilla-mplayer
[03:30] <noiesmo> !mozilla-mplayer
[03:30] <ubotu> mozilla-mplayer: MPlayer-Plugin for Mozilla. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.31-1 (edgy), package size 467 kB, installed size 1616 kB
[03:30] <Jucato> flaccid: Disks & Filesystem in System Settings
[03:30] <ubuntu> !grub
[03:30] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:30] <noiesmo> LjL, will the envy info be in all ubuntu channels
[03:30] <LordOliver> malik_: media player app
[03:30] <Skeez187> Thank you very much Jucato
[03:30] <Skeez187> :D
[03:31] <LjL> noiesmo: yes, it wasn't added as a channel-specific factoid
[03:31] <ubuntu> !wiki
[03:31] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[03:31] <noiesmo> LjL, cool :)
[03:31] <BluesKaj> noiesmo, I have mozilla - mplayer installed...kaffeine won't start for some reason :(
[03:31] <noiesmo> !w32codecs | BluesKaj
[03:31] <ubotu> BluesKaj: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:32] <hans> BluesKaj: I get "No stream found"
[03:32] <pacman> anyone ever use a Sansa mp3 player and try and use Linux to ptu files on it and stuff
[03:32] <RoC_MM_0w> Any idea why a .procmailrc file wouldn't be being read by on dapper drake?  I have postfix&procmailrc installed, and the user owns the directory and it's files.  It's totally not reading the procmailrc at all.
[03:33] <noiesmo> hans, site works for me mozilla-mplayer kicks in
[03:33] <noiesmo> BluesKaj, I added some symbolic links to my w32codecs folder
[03:33] <hans> noiesmo: not for me, I even got the html and tried mplayer directly
[03:33] <BluesKaj> noiesmo, you using FF ?
[03:34] <noiesmo> BluesKaj, yes firefox
[03:34] <jorge__> hi
[03:35] <BluesKaj> noiesmo, what symbolic links did you add ?
[03:35] <RoC_MM_0w> Anybody with procmail experience?
[03:35] <ubuntu> does anyone know the link to the site that tells you how to add windows to your grub menu?
[03:36] <RoC_MM_0w> !grub
[03:36] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:36] <ubuntu> it dosnt say how to there
[03:37] <noiesmo> BluesKaj, I have unpacked w32codecs to /usr/lib/codecs
[03:37] <RoC_MM_0w> It's relatively easy, the file is /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:37] <noiesmo> BluesKaj, I then have a link from codecs to /usr/lib/win32
[03:37] <hans> ubuntu http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_Windows_entry_into_GRUB_menu
[03:37] <noiesmo> BluesKaj, I also have one from codecs to /usr/local/lib/codecs
[03:38] <ubuntu> hans: thanks
[03:38] <lrentz> How can you integrate Kate into konqueror.  I switched from suse to kubuntu and I got quite fond of that configurations
[03:38] <Jucato> right-click Preview in Embedded Text Editor?
[03:39] <lrentz> hmmm. let me see.
[03:39] <BluesKaj> thanks noiesmo , installed the plugin ...it works !
[03:40] <noiesmo> BluesKaj, :)
[03:41] <lrentz> is there a way to preview it default.
[03:41] <lrentz> open in a new tab works as well.
[03:42] <RawSewage> Is it normal to have a lot of kio_file and kio_html slave socket things in the process table?
[03:42] <lrentz> automatically previews it.
[03:42] <lrentz> I thought that I actually got the editor in suse.
[03:43] <RawSewage> whats' kdeinit
[03:44] <RawSewage> can I shut off kdeinit
[03:44] <RawSewage> it seems to be making lots of slave sockets
[03:44] <malik_> noiesmo: how do we can i make this link?.............from /usr/lib/codecs to /usr/local/lib/codecs.................?
[03:45] <RawSewage> Is it normal to have a lot of kio_file and kio_html slave socket things in the process table?
[03:45] <TheDebugger> cd /usr/local/lib         ln -s /usr/lib/codec
[03:46] <RawSewage> kdeinit is creating a ton of slave sockets
[03:46] <TheDebugger> cd /usr/local/lib         ln -s /usr/lib/codecs           ...
[03:46] <hans> malik_: ln -s  /usr/lib/codecs /usr/local/lib/codecs
[03:50] <malik_> thanx to all the guys who responded
[03:50] <noiesmo> malik_, sorry dude was doing how to for this for my site lol
[03:51] <malik_> thats okie
[03:51] <malik_> i think its great thant linux has come so far
[03:52] <malik_> specially for total nebiz like me
[03:52] <malik_> im loving it n probably wud love it even more when i ll b able to figure out how to make opera function properly in linux
[03:53] <noiesmo> malik_, yeah but opera is free as in free beer but not free open source
[03:55] <vanique> okay well
[03:55] <vanique> any native english speaker there ?
[03:55] <vanique> :)
[03:56] <crimsun> there are quite a few.
[03:56] <BluesKaj> yup, several
[03:56] <vanique> i just need one only for improvment of one pharse
[03:56] <vanique> ;)
[03:57] <BluesKaj> vanique, ask your question
[03:58] <ubuntu_> !grub
[03:58] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:03] <digitalfreedom> well chit
[04:15] <crazyreddwolf> hello i'm looking for some help in setting up my ftp server i ran the apt-get part that in the server guid but can't seem to get in to configure it
[04:15] <ubuntu_> !grub
[04:15] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:16] <crazyreddwolf> i also get a message that the zeroconf is not running so how would i get it running again
[04:18] <ThePub> crazyreddwolf: do nothing of course!  it's "zero conf" afterall, right?
[04:18] <crazyreddwolf> thats what it says
[04:19] <crazyreddwolf> would i need it running for the other computers on my network to see the ftp server
[04:19] <Whopper> hello
[04:19] <ThePub> evening
[04:19] <Whopper> there is a problem: when i try to boot, it says frequency out of range. I'm new, what can i do to fix this?
[04:19] <crazyreddwolf> hello
[04:19] <ThePub> crazyreddwolf: no clue, sorry.  haven't been paying attention.
[04:19] <Whopper> well, it says 78k / 97 hz
[04:20] <crazyreddwolf> hello i'm looking for some help in setting up my ftp server i ran the apt-get part that in the server guid but can't seem to get in to configure it
[04:20] <crazyreddwolf> for me to finish seting up the ftp server i have running
[04:20] <crazyreddwolf> but i get the message about the zeroconf
[04:21] <philip> Can anyone recommend to me a simple game which I could play without much thought while listening to an audiobook
[04:21] <lrentz> frozen bubbles
[04:22] <Hirvinen> philip: Why not just listen?
[04:22] <lrentz> true haha
[04:22] <hans> or sleep?
[04:22] <philip> For some reason I can listen better when I'm playing a simple game like Tron.
[04:23] <crazyreddwolf> is there anyone that could help me with my dilema
[04:24] <noiesmo> how can I create a text file with a list of all directories and the disk space used for each specifically my users home space
[04:26] <fm-2> noiesmo: cd /home; du > space.txt
[04:26] <redleader> evening folks
[04:26] <redleader> got a quick question
[04:27] <fm-2> shoot
[04:27] <redleader> I'm attempting to play a dvd on 6.10, and the title pops up when I insert the disc (autoplay) but when I go to play it in kaffeine, it says that the disc is blank or I dont have permissions
[04:27] <fm-2> ugh... brb
[04:28] <noiesmo> fm-2,  cheers
[04:28] <crazyreddwolf> hello i'm looking for some help in setting up my ftp server i ran the apt-get part that in the server guid but can't seem to get in to configure it
[04:28] <redleader> as in : The source can't be read. Maybe you don't have enough rights for this, or source doesn't contain data (e.g: no disc in drive). (Error reading NAV packet.)
[04:31] <digitalfreedom> where should i install java to ? or better yet where at../usr/bin? /usr/local...
[04:34] <crazyreddwolf> ok then can some one point me in the right direction for help with setting up a ftp server
[04:34] <crazyreddwolf> with out going to the server guid
[04:37] <redleader> I'm noticing a lack of support in this "support" chan
[04:37] <crazyreddwolf> i see the same thing it like they don't evn care
[04:37] <redleader> ah well, back to reading the useless FAQ
[04:37] <redleader> should be a party
[04:37] <crazyreddwolf> true
[04:38] <crazyreddwolf> i'm doing that right now
[04:38] <crazyreddwolf> with getting a server running
[04:40] <redleader> hows that working out for you?
[04:40] <redleader> I'm just trying to watch a dvd
[04:40] <crazyreddwolf> not good
[04:40] <hans> crazyreddwolf: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#FTP_Server
[04:40] <crazyreddwolf> hans i have that already and it is doing me no good
[04:41] <hans> crazyreddwolf: so what is the problem?
[04:41] <crazyreddwolf> redleader hows yours going
[04:42] <redleader> I have no idea what I'm doing
[04:42] <redleader> its great
[04:42] <crazyreddwolf> i can't get the ftp server to configure
[04:42] <crazyreddwolf> and i get a zeroconf message
[04:42] <redleader> all I want to do is change permissions on a dvd drive
[04:42] <tamacracker> Hey guys?
[04:42] <crazyreddwolf> thats true
[04:42] <abattoir> redleader: you have libdvdcss installed?
[04:43] <crazyreddwolf> hello
[04:43] <tamacracker> How do I stop a specific site from loading pop ups?
[04:43] <redleader> I dont even know what that is
[04:43] <abattoir> !dvd | redleader
[04:43] <ubotu> redleader: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:43] <abattoir> hmm, i guess that's too ubuntu specific...
[04:43] <abattoir> wait a sec
[04:43] <redleader> is it in adept?
[04:44] <abattoir> redleader: install libdvdnav and libdvdread3 from adept
[04:44] <abattoir> (if you have multiverse enabled)
[04:44] <tamacracker> Does anyone now how to stop pop ups from a specific website when using firefox?
[04:44] <tamacracker> now - know
[04:45] <redleader> I have libdvdnav4 installed, is that okay?
[04:45] <abattoir> redleader: once you've installed libdvdread3, go to /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3(preferably in a terminal)
[04:45] <abattoir> redleader: yeah, install libdvdread3 too
[04:45] <redleader> got both
[04:45] <abattoir> redleader: ok, open up a terminal(konsole)
[04:45] <redleader> k
[04:45] <abattoir> redleader: cd /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3
[04:46] <abattoir> redleader: sudo ./install-css.sh
[04:46] <abattoir> redleader: (btw, doing this might be illegal in your country, check w/ local laws)
[04:46] <redleader> oh... alrighty
[04:46] <redleader> its installing
[04:46] <abattoir> redleader: cool, try playing a dvd after that's done
[04:47] <No1Viking> I must have done something really wrong here. I get new downloaded e-mails into my draft folder instead of inbox. Any ideas why?
[04:47] <redleader> kaffeine crashed, I'm gonna try it again
[04:48] <redleader> awesome!
[04:48] <redleader> thanks!
[04:48] <losguachones> alguien de chile
[04:49] <redleader> I'm gonna go watch a movie, many thanks
[04:50] <tamacracker> Can someone tell how I can block a specific site, please?
[04:52] <crazyreddwolf> that sight is usless to me i have kubuntu 6.06 not the ubuntu 6.10
[04:55] <crazy_bus> I installed normall ubuntu.  And then installed the package 'kubuntu-desktop' to get the KDE windows manager.  But for some reason KDE is different from when I got it from straight kubuntu.  The font's are different, firefox looks half GNOME, and item on the KDE menu bar flicker if you hover over them.  Does anyone know anything about this?
[05:00] <noiesmo> crazy_bus, did you install kubuntu-default-settings
[05:01] <chih>
[05:01] <chih>
[05:01] <Jucato> !cn
[05:01] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[05:02] <Jucato> !jp
[05:02] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp
[05:04] <crazy_bus> noieesmo, apt-get install, says that I already have the latest version of kubuntu-default-settings.
[05:10] <syntaxx> anyone know the md5sum of the kubuntu 6.10 i386 cd?
[05:11] <Dr_willis> it should be in a file on the ftp sites syntaxx
[05:12] <syntaxx> ok thanks
[05:13] <[RIP] d3jake> okay, if when starting up the install of the newest version of Kubuntu, I get this on the top of the screen: Loading /casper/vmlinuz ... isolinux:Disk error 80, AX = 4200, drive 9F <= What' does that mean?
[05:13] <syntaxx> Dr_willis: when i check defect the cd it says checksum 1 failed.. but the md5sum is correct that would be burn error right?
[05:14] <Dr_willis> sounds likely.. or you are checking the cd wrong
[05:14] <Dr_willis> or got the wrong md5sum file :)
[05:15] <syntaxx> i downloaded the file here http://ftp.yz.yamagata-u.ac.jp/pub/linux/ubuntu/releases/kubuntu/edgy/
[05:15] <syntaxx> the kubuntu desktop i386
[05:15] <[RIP] d3jake> `I did too
[05:16] <Dr_willis> 1f9baed847eff89b03c754fcaea8070e  kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso
[05:16] <syntaxx> anyone know a good m5sum checker for windows?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. I installed Opera - and somehow its set to the default browser
[05:17] <Dr_willis> syntaxx,  i recall one that put 'check md5sum' in the right click menus under windows.
[05:17] <Dr_willis> but i aint used it in ages
[05:17] <syntaxx> ok
[05:18] <[RIP] d3jake> is it my turn to ask a question..?
[05:19] <Dr_willis> you just did.. care to ask another. :)
[05:19] <digitalfreedom> !java
[05:19] <[RIP] d3jake> :p
[05:19] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:19] <[RIP] d3jake> okay, if when starting up the install of the newest version of Kubuntu, I get this on the top of the screen: Loading /casper/vmlinuz ...isolinux:Disk  error 80, AX = 4200, drive 9F <= What' does that mean?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> Your cd/disk is bad most likely.
[05:20] <Dr_willis> burnt wrong/bad download/or somthing similer
[05:20] <[RIP] d3jake> aww
[05:20] <Dr_willis> hence the use of the term 'Disk  error' :)
[05:20] <[RIP] d3jake> though I did order one...though I was told that the version that you can order is old?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> its possible the cd/dvd drive is flakey..
[05:21] <Dr_willis> the ones they send are the LTS version. so its the 'long term support' version
[05:21] <Dr_willis> You can upgrade from it to the latest
[05:21] <[RIP] d3jake> so..?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> It also can take some time to get to you.
[05:21] <[RIP] d3jake> heh
[05:21] <[RIP] d3jake> couplea weeks?
[05:21] <Dr_willis> Ive heard some times several months. :)
[05:22] <Dr_willis> but i normally download the images
[05:22] <[RIP] d3jake> that i did... though I"ll probably set up the download on a diffrent computer...
[05:22] <ThePub> last time I looked at the page it said it could be as much as 12 weeks
[05:22] <[RIP] d3jake>  O_O
[05:23] <[RIP] d3jake> this comp likes to randomly stop downloading when I set it up to download overnight
[05:23] <Dr_willis> or go to the latest bookstore and find a linux magazine with the cds
[05:23] <ThePub> just do a network install using grub for windows :)
[05:23] <[RIP] d3jake> ``net install? I've heard of Grub, but that's about all I know...
[05:24] <[RIP] d3jake> but Windows I know alot about :)
[05:25] <ThePub> couple months back I did that with dapper and it worked like a charm.  takes modifying your windows boot sequence though, and unless you know something about windows boot sequences and grub can be a real pain.  forget I suggested it :)
[05:25] <[RIP] d3jake> ah, sounds good :)
[05:26] <ThePub> but it allows a person to install w/o needing to burn/write any disks.  which was a lifesaver for me ;)
[05:26] <[RIP] d3jake> ah, then again I don't really want to mess with my boot start up thingie...
[05:27] <[RIP] d3jake> I'll try to get a new CD burned, I"ll come back in here, whether it works or not
[05:27] <[RIP] d3jake> talk to y'all later
[05:27] <ThePub> thanks for the warning?
[05:27] <Dr_willis> Grub is one of those tools thats worth  reading/learning/and learning well.
[05:28] <ThePub> isn't that true?  it's one of those tools that you don't think anything about until you need it, and that's just about the time you wish you knew a bit more about it :)
[05:29] <ThePub> all new linux users should be made to use Lilo first.. just so there is an appreciation of what Grub offers ^^
[05:30] <campbch> ello
[05:30] <ThePub> evening
[05:31] <digitalfreedom> hi
[05:31] <campbch> are there problems occurring with the flash player? i can't get any sound periodically :(
[05:31] <campbch> like, now-ish
[05:31] <campbch> is there any way to reload it? it should work based on the content, it's just youtube
[05:32] <digitalfreedom> which brwoser?
[05:32] <ThePub> stop and start your browser :)
[05:32] <campbch> firefox
[05:32] <campbch> i stopped, started, stopped x, restarted, which im sure does the sound
[05:32] <campbch> it's still not doing anything
[05:33] <campbch> im definately not muted :p
[05:33] <campbch> and other sound, .ogg files and such work
[05:34] <campbch> :o
[05:34] <campbch> does it stop and start things differently?
[05:34] <campbch> i did it again, and now it works :o
[05:34] <campbch> disproving the literal definition of insanity
[05:34] <ThePub> maybe you should make a sacrifice to the adobe gods?
[05:52] <malik_> hello ppl............can some one tell me plz how to fix or restore my desktop theme back to system default in kubuntu ..................i was fiddling with it n now it looks like really bed version of win98
[05:52] <abattoir> malik_: you mean the widget style?
[05:53] <abattoir> malik_: or the colour?
[05:54] <malik_> everything has gone haywire.............i have fixed the blue color bar at the top of the page but actual page n text on it are not recoverd yet
[05:54] <abattoir> on top of which page?
[05:54] <malik_> they r very bland..........not like shiny n spiffy when i installed linux
[05:55] <abattoir> malik_: could you post a screenshot?
[05:55] <abattoir> malik_: at imageshack.us, for example
[05:56] <malik_> i can but how do i do that?..........do i have to have amembership?
[05:56] <abattoir> malik_: no it's free
[05:56] <ThePub> malik_: go into the control panel
[05:57] <ThePub> expand appearance and  themes
[05:57] <ThePub> click on theme manager
[05:57] <ThePub> choose a theme on the left side of the right panel :)
[05:57] <malik_> oki im in theme manager
[05:57] <ThePub> those are all the basic ones that come with theme
[05:58] <ThePub> with kde
[05:59] <malik_> yea i know that much but ...........its very bland now
[05:59] <ThePub> so what's diff?
[05:59] <malik_> b4 pages were nice n shiny n spiffy
[06:00] <ThePub> all the "spiffy" features are under the appearances section.. for the most part ^_^
[06:00] <malik_> now they are greyish
[06:00] <ThePub> web pages?
[06:02] <malik_> yes
[06:02] <malik_> abattor: here is the screenshot...................... http://img246.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot1oe5.png
[06:06] <ThePub> malik_: expand internet and network, then web browser and you may wish to look under fonts
[06:07] <ThePub> malik_: in fact.. if you go down all those different options and just hit the "defaults" button.. they'll all go back to the default :)
[06:08] <intelikey> or logout and rm ~/.kde -r       resets most everything
[06:09] <malik_> would that even reset my plugin settings too? and the icons on the panel bar too?
[06:10] <intelikey> plugins for ?    pannel yes.
[06:10] <malik_> plugins formultimedia in konqi
[06:10] <malik_> plugins for multimedia in konqi
[06:10] <intelikey> yeah
[06:11] <malik_> u mean it wud or it wudnt?
[06:11] <malik_> im bit confused
[06:11] <intelikey> it should
[06:12] <malik_> bugger
[06:12] <malik_> that means im stuffed
[06:12] <DennisTT> Hi
[06:12] <DennisTT> I'm wondering how much swap space I should allocate for my Kubuntu
[06:13] <malik_> aussie aussie aussie.........................
[06:13] <malik_> lets see if some one can reply
[06:15] <intelikey> heavy ram usage would be in the line of 1+g    medium usage  190m to 900m       and light ram usage  12m to 128m     so figure that as real ram plus swap space DennisTT
[06:15] <DennisTT> Thanks
[06:19] <intelikey> without doing major hacking about 12m is as light as i can run ubuntu linux      an ultra-light truely minimalist linux can be as small as 64k ram    but is generally about 4m.   didn't figure that would apply tho.
[06:24] <intelikey> specally seeing that i found it impossable to boot a default ubuntu kernel in 4m    the kernel + initrd wont uncompress in that amount of space.
[06:25] <intelikey> which is propper,   uncompress or decompress ?
[06:27] <Hawkwind> Decompress
[06:27] <Hawkwind> There is no such word as uncompress
[06:28] <intelikey> poppycock.
[06:28] <Hawkwind> Could have answered your own question by going to google.com and typing   define:uncompress
[06:30] <intelikey> so you say google doesn't know about uncompressed things ?      oh well that's just another shortcomming of google.
[06:30] <Dr_willis> you uncompress the .zip. but the diver underwent decompression :)
[06:30] <genii> Hello. Is anyone aware of a precompiled kernel with sshd? I'm doing netboots, want to monitor the stations without a mess of KVM etc
[06:31] <intelikey> Dr_willis actually i think you decompress the .zip  but it is afterwards uncompressed....
[06:31] <intelikey> i could be wrong.
[06:31] <NewNovice> Any help here on changing the monitor power-off time from the default (5 min) such that the change stays through a reboot? (desktop use)
[06:32] <NewNovice> running dapper
[06:33] <intelikey> NewNovice if you can reset a box without it waking the monitor there is something wrong with the hardware.
[06:34] <genii> I believe his issue is that he can set it to turn off in whatever time, but that the change gets wiped next time he starts the system
[06:34] <intelikey> NewNovice i'm saying it can't be done.    let he who will prove me wrong.
[06:34] <RoKFiT> can anyone help me with something in the gimp?
[06:34] <intelikey> genii ah youre probably right.
[06:34] <NewNovice> genii: correct.
[06:35] <intelikey> NewNovice ok how do you change it to begin with ?
[06:35] <intelikey> an init script can set things at boot time.
[06:35] <NewNovice> I can change the time, and it sticks only for that X session.
[06:36] <genii> NewNovice I think you need to set another option that saves your session.
[06:36] <NewNovice> Changed using system settings
[06:36] <NewNovice> OK how?
[06:37] <intelikey> mmmmm ok that's kcontrol.     mmmm   save session as default ?
[06:37] <genii> Unfortunately I'm not on a  KDE box right now to go find it :( But if you poke around I'm sure it's not extremely hidden
[06:37] <NewNovice> How do I get to kcontrol?  I thought that was replaced by system settings.
[06:37] <Hawkwind> Dr_willis: uncompress is *not* a word.  It does not exist.  It's always been *decompress*.  You decompress a compressed file, and the diver underwent decompression
[06:38] <genii> hawkwind - I agree with you.
[06:38] <intelikey> Hawkwind we use it too much for it to "not exist"  google is wrong.
[06:38] <Hawkwind> intelikey: I never said google doesn't know about uncompressed things.   For instance, you can have an uncompressed file which has not been previously compressed. Therefore it cannot be stated to be decompressed.
[06:39] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Computer is a word.  google.com and type   define:computer
[06:40] <Hawkwind> genii: That's still decompressed
[06:40] <genii> hah so true
[06:40] <intelikey> but webster's dictionary doesn't list it.  so it's not a word.     point being what you use for the authority on the issue makes all the differance.
[06:40] <Hawkwind> uncompressed is in no dictionary at this current time.  If it's not in Websters then it's not a word
[06:40] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Yes it most certainly does
[06:41] <intelikey> and i don't count google as an anthority on ... well much of anything except search engines
[06:41] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Sounds like you better learn to use dictionary.com before you speak
[06:41] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Then that's where your problem lies
[06:42] <genii> Does anyone know ehre to find precompiled kernels with certain feature sets? I need an installation kernel for netboot installs which will let me ssh into that box.
[06:42] <intelikey> Hawkwind no not my problem.
[06:42] <ThePub> Using Webster's to determine a words' validity is like basing contemporary history on a geologic history framework.
[06:42] <intelikey> ThePub so you agree with me....
[06:42] <Hawkwind> ThePub: Thta's how it's done.  If it's not in the Websters or Meriams, then it's not recognized as a word.  It's been that way for many years now
[06:43] <ThePub> Maybe if a person wants to naively argue a point, sure.
[06:44] <RoKFiT> can anyone help me do a transparent layer in gimp
[06:44] <Hawkwind> Look up the word funner.  It's not a word, and it's also not in any dictionary
[06:44] <NewNovice> How do I get to kcontrol?  I thought that was replaced by system settings.(dapper)
[06:44] <ThePub> I think you'll find that the popular vernacular will hold more sway outside if the five or so people per college campus who use the dictionary rule.  ;)
[06:44] <Hawkwind> RoKFiT: Tried #Gimp ?
[06:44] <genii> Alternately a method to pre-execute or insert a kernel module for sshd
[06:44] <RoKFiT> yeah, no one is replying
[06:44] <ThePub> RoKFiT: create a new layer and set it to transparent.. it's not hard :)
[06:45] <RoKFiT> ThePub, how?
[06:45] <unix_infidel> RoKFiT: there should be a layer option for transparent.
[06:45] <ThePub> open the "Layers" window and click on the "New Layer" button
[06:45] <unix_infidel> its just like Photoshop since like PS6.0
[06:45] <RoKFiT> under transparency there are like 5 different options for layers
[06:46] <RoKFiT> add color to alpha or add to alpha
[06:46] <ThePub> you're making it too difficult.
[06:46] <intelikey> un- is of much wider application, and is attached at will to almost any adjective, or participle used adjectively, or adverb, from and is also, but less freely, prefixed to nouns.   <--- noah webster on un-    so uncompressed is as valid as unleaded or unused or any other word that we apply it to...
[06:46] <ThePub> go to the dialogs menu, click on layers
[06:46] <weswh-> where do i go to change my network settings? (i want to give myself a static ip)
[06:46] <RoKFiT> okay
[06:46] <ThePub> in the new layers window, click on "new layer" (looks like a page in lower-right corner)
[06:47] <ThePub> under "layer fill type" click "Transparency"
[06:47] <genii> weswh you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[06:47] <ThePub> click "ok"
[06:47] <ThePub> delete old layer
[06:47] <RoKFiT> why can i not edit the tranparency of an existing layer?
[06:47] <ThePub> bada bing, bada boom, presto changeo.. problemo solved
[06:48] <intelikey> the fact that google doesn't find uncompressed doesn't mean it's not a word.    absense of evidance is not evidance of absense    if all the uses of un-  were listed the dictionary would be almost twice as large.
[06:48] <ThePub> intelikey: there is a difference between words and bad english though.
[06:48] <Dr_willis> unbeliveable!
[06:48] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:49] <RoKFiT> thep
[06:49] <Dr_willis> understandable
[06:49] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:49] <RoKFiT> ThePub: read what i wrote
[06:49] <Dr_willis> is 'derstandable' a word?
[06:49] <ThePub> RoKFiT: maybe you can.. but I don't know.  Maybe check out a gimp channel or mailing list or howto for more specific stuff.
[06:49] <RoKFiT> why can't i make an existing layer semi trans..
[06:49] <RoKFiT> i am in gimp
[06:49] <RoKFiT> idk how
[06:49] <intelikey> Dr_willis hehhe
[06:49] <RoKFiT> nobody is responding
[06:49] <weswh-> genii - no graphical tool?
[06:50] <ThePub> RoKFiT: it's IRC and probably a under-used or cared-for channel.  don't sweat it, don't expect miracles and don't expect instant gratification.
[06:50] <Dr_willis> 'expect the unexpected'
[06:50] <ThePub> RoKFiT: I know there's some pretty extensive books on the gimp homepage.
[06:50] <Dr_willis> unless thats not a word.
[06:50] <RoKFiT> i'll check the forums
[06:50] <Dr_willis> 'unless' theres another..!
[06:50] <genii> weswh Well there likely is but I'm a command-line guy. It's not that difficult, there are scores of examples out there. You can use konsole from X and it's not so painful
[06:51] <ThePub> So anyhow, someone said something about "funner".  Which is not a word, it's a violation of the English language ruleset.
[06:51] <weswh-> genii - do i have to set all of the information, or can i let dhcp handle any of it? like, do i need to give it dns
[06:51] <weswh-> i see some examples that seem to exclude dns
[06:51] <intelikey> enough with the unwarrented undesirable and uneducated uses of un.....
[06:51] <intelikey> down with the UN
[06:51] <RoKFiT> ThePub: what is the url?
[06:51] <genii> wes - 1 minute, I'll ssh into a boxen and pull an example for you
[06:52] <ThePub> weswh-: kcontrol -> internet & network -> network settings doesn't work for you?
[06:52] <Dr_willis> funner is not? but funnier is?
[06:52] <genii> There ya go :) A graphical interface
[06:53] <ThePub> RoKFiT: gimp.org I'd imagine.
[06:53] <Dr_willis> I recall a paper out years ago about re-engineering english. :) really irked the english majors.. would of put a lot of them out of a job.
[06:53] <Dr_willis> +good ++good.
[06:53] <ThePub> lol
[06:53] <RoKFiT> nothing about transparencies in the how to, and i'm not buying a book
[06:53] <weswh-> i don't see Kcontrol? i see Kinfo..
[06:53] <intelikey> Dr_willis i don't speak english anyway,  :)
[06:54] <intelikey> very few of us do.
[06:54] <ThePub> RoKFiT: then wait on irc, search the web, or wait patiently here I suppose.  I have given you the sum total of my experience on gimp and transpariencies.  It's worked for years for me that way :)
[06:54] <Dr_willis> 'us'? Egads! you are one of 'them!'
[06:54] <genii> wes - Anyhow basically you just replace "dhcp" with "static" then below that you put "address x.x.x.x" "netmask x.x.x.x" "default-router x.x.x.x" all on separate lines with appropriate values.
[06:54] <ThePub> I don't speak English either.  I'm American, we speak Mutt.
[06:54] <intelikey> us and them, we and they, why does it all come down to black and white like that.....
[06:54] <RoKFiT> ThePub: well with your method, do you know how to adjust the amount of transparency?
[06:55] <genii> wes - and without the quotes around the lines
[06:56] <ubuntu> hello everone...trying to get this demo disk to install anyone care to kill a few minutes with me?
[06:56] <ThePub> I really wish konversation didn't use the visited link color for lines that have your name in them :(
[06:56] <intelikey> ubuntu not at all
[06:56] <darkangel_> hi! I need help with my sound card, i tried to compile alsa driver byt i had problems with that and now I can't heard anything, someone could helpe me please?
[06:56] <ThePub> RoKFiT: hmm, haven't tried that for years.. let me check something.
[06:56] <Dr_willis> 'what' demo disk?
[06:57] <genii> darkangel Which chipset?
[06:57] <darkangel_> via 8237 genii
[06:57] <ubuntu> you know the disc that has linux on it without installing it first
[06:57] <ThePub> RoKFiT: you're not looking for transparency but a solid mask, right?
[06:57] <genii> darkangel thats not a soundcard chipset
[06:57] <Dr_willis> ubuntu - you are refering to the Kubuntu "Live cd" ?
[06:58] <ubuntu> yeah a live cd
[06:58] <ubuntu> thats it
[06:58] <RoKFiT> ThePub: no i want to make it 50 percent transparent to see the layer behind it partially
[06:58] <darkangel_> well it's the south brige
[06:58] <genii> darkangel Most likely some ESS chipset. You should open your box and look at what ist says on the largest chip there.
[06:58] <max_> can someone give me the lionk to the site that tells you how to add a windows entry to a
[06:58] <max_> Grub
[06:58] <Dr_willis> max_,  an example is in the grub's menu.lst config file
[06:58] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:59] <ThePub> RoKFiT: in the layers window check out opacity maybe :)
[06:59] <Dr_willis> i normally uncomment it - to put 'windows' at the top grub entry
[06:59] <RoKFiT> thanks
[06:59] <intelikey> eeeek  a massive outage......
[06:59] <genii> darkangel I mean the largest chip on the soundcard, or it may be on the motherboard but it controls the sound, etc
[06:59] <xsacha> goodbye world
[06:59] <max_> !grub
[06:59] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:59] <intelikey> well when the net splits i think i'll split from it....
[06:59] <RoKFiT> lol ThePub it was there the whole time
[06:59] <RoKFiT> lol
[07:00] <ThePub> there's a difference between being transparent and opaque
[07:00] <Dr_willis> i got parts/joins hidden.. i never see net splits
[07:03] <ThePub> I'll take some cherries on my netsplit!
[07:04] <genii> Well that was exciting
[07:04] <darkangel_> genii what can I do for fix my alsa driver?
[07:05] <RoKFiT> open image as new layer
[07:05] <ThePub> RoKFiT: I'm really in no position to give much advice about GIMP.  Last time I seriously used it the program was competing with MS Paint.  :)
[07:05] <RoKFiT> paste as new layer, HOW!!??!
[07:05] <digitalfreedom> FYI yahoo is back up
[07:05] <ThePub> digitalfreedom: Yahooooooooo for Yahoo!
[07:05] <ThePub> ?
[07:05] <digitalfreedom> hahaha
[07:06] <DennisTT> How do you restart the x server?
[07:06] <genii> darkangel The best thing is to first find what hardware your soundcard is based on. Then when you are sure it is the right chipset, you can choose a module for it, and then add it in to /etc/modules
[07:06] <Hawkwind> DennisTT: ctrl-alt-backspace
[07:06] <ThePub> RoKFiT: if you paste something into an image and create a new layer, the floating object becomes a layer.
[07:06] <Hawkwind> DennisTT: killall kdm, telinit3, killall X, many other ways
[07:06] <digitalfreedom> wtf
[07:07] <RoKFiT> oh sweet
[07:07] <RoKFiT> thanks
[07:07] <genii> darkangel i had to do this with an ESS1869 souncard recently
[07:07] <digitalfreedom> mass boot?
[07:07] <ThePub> RoKFiT: now please, do some exploration on your own.
[07:07] <RoKFiT> will do, thank oyu
[07:07] <DennisTT> digitalfreedom: They're restarting the servers
[07:07] <RoKFiT> :D
[07:07] <RoKFiT> you*
[07:07] <digitalfreedom> oh
[07:07] <DennisTT> They announced it earlier today
[07:07] <ThePub> RoKFiT: The GIMP follows many Photoshop-isms.
[07:07] <wes_> ThePub: what do you think of the azureus native code version?
[07:08] <RoKFiT> it didn't with the layer thing
[07:08] <ThePub> wes_: idk, never used it.
[07:08] <ThePub> RoKFiT: depends on the version you're used to I suppose :)
[07:08] <wes_> i have to get sun java to use the regular one right
[07:09] <digitalfreedom> java bleh
[07:09] <ThePub> Never used another java myself.  Sun FTW.
[07:09] <RoKFiT> i will figure it out, but thanks for the help
[07:10] <RoKFiT> how do i change open with file types in system settings?
[07:10] <ThePub> Especially Groovy + Java :)
[07:12] <RoKFiT> i found it
[07:12] <ThePub> yipee.. kmail finally decided to thread my inbox!  :)
[07:12] <digitalfreedom> alright
[07:13] <ThePub> only took a restart of my computer.
[07:13] <darkangel_> genii I foun wich was my sound controller AC97 Audio Controller
[07:14] <ThePub> hmm, is there a setting I'm missing?  kde seems to think there's a panel on my second monitor at the top.  it exapands windows fine, but I'm unable to drag unmaximized windows all the way to the top of the desktop.
[07:15] <DennisTT> Kubuntu runs the hard drive surprisingly quiet
[07:15] <digitalfreedom> my HDD's spin like made
[07:15] <digitalfreedom> they zing all the time
[07:15] <digitalfreedom> mad*
[07:15] <DennisTT> But I don't get why my desktop doesn't "fit" the monitor
[07:16] <DennisTT> it always scrolls like 20px down
[07:16] <ThePub> digitalfreedom: swap is not memory! :D
[07:16] <genii> darkangel OK.. AC97 is only a kind of standard. You still need to find who actually makes it so you know what chips it needs drivers for.
[07:16] <DennisTT> when my mouse is at the bottom
[07:16] <digitalfreedom> i got plenty of ram
[07:16] <DennisTT> and when my mouse goes to the top, it scrolls the whole desktop up 20px
[07:16] <DennisTT> Ok make that like 100 pixels
[07:16] <DennisTT> lol
[07:17] <darkangel_> digitalfreedom I have problems with my sound card
[07:17] <digitalfreedom> chk yer pm's
[07:17] <digitalfreedom> and how to post ppl's names like that?
[07:19] <wes_> azureus says i am using java 1.4.2 which is not compatible - how do i switch to the 'right' java?
[07:20] <digitalfreedom> do a !java and see the pages
[07:20] <digitalfreedom> !java
[07:20] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[07:20] <digitalfreedom> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[07:21] <genii> darkangel - can you type in sudo lspci and tell me what it says by pasting it to the pastebin?
[07:23] <genii> !pastebin
[07:23] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:24] <darkangel_> sorry I'm new and I don't understand what exactry do you want me to paste :(
[07:24] <digitalfreedom> da open konsole type lspci
[07:24] <edgy> Hi, I am subscribed to a mailing list via my google account but kmail doesn't bring the message I sent to the list myself thought it brings others messages properly.  The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:25] <darkangel_> 00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
[07:25] <notech> lol
[07:26] <darkangel_> 00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86)
[07:26] <digitalfreedom> lol
[07:26] <darkangel_> 00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge [KT600/K8T800/K8T890 South]
[07:26] <darkangel_> 00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[07:26] <darkangel_> 00:13.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[07:26] <darkangel_> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. UniChrome Pro IGP (rev 01)
[07:26] <digitalfreedom> just find the audio part
[07:26] <genii> LOL
[07:26] <digitalfreedom> thats all we need
[07:26] <genii> OK I see the relevant part in there
[07:27] <genii> Give me a minute to do some research on it
[07:27] <digitalfreedom> good cause i was laughing so hard i missed it
[07:27] <digitalfreedom> ROFL
[07:27] <notech> should maybe say lspci | grep -i audio next time :)
[07:27] <digitalfreedom> maybe
[07:27] <digitalfreedom> lol
[07:28] <genii-away> yes, my bad
[07:28] <digitalfreedom> its all good tho
[07:29] <prophitinc> need help finding the fstab and mtab files on here
[07:29] <genii> darkangel - You need the via82cxxx module.
[07:29] <digitalfreedom> for fstab just do cat /etc/fstab
[07:29] <prophitinc> says cant mount to second harddrive
[07:29] <digitalfreedom> from the konsole
[07:29] <prophitinc> is that the one i need to change?
[07:30] <digitalfreedom> i dont know thats how you look at it tho
[07:30] <darkangel_> ok how can I get It? :(
[07:30] <prophitinc> i need to mount to another drive
[07:30] <digitalfreedom> google DA is an awsome tool
[07:30] <genii> darkangel - please do a lsmod |grep via82cxxx and put the results in the pastebin - DO NOT CUT AND PASTE THEM HERE
[07:30] <digitalfreedom> no mount from konsole?
[07:30] <genii> !pastebin
[07:30] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[07:31] <prophitinc> no from storage media
[07:31] <prophitinc> how would i do that
[07:31] <darkangel_> ok sorry but I'm learning :(
[07:31] <digitalfreedom> yes DA we know its cute really
[07:31] <genii> darkangel Thats OK we were all newbies once
[07:32] <digitalfreedom> i love linux just for this
[07:32] <digitalfreedom> you HAVE to learn and RTFM
[07:32] <digitalfreedom> its gr8
[07:32] <genii> :)
[07:32] <prophitinc> no a harddrive
[07:33] <prophitinc> says cant mount cause couldnt find it in fstab or mtab
[07:33] <prophitinc> i did and i found it
[07:33] <digitalfreedom> ok
[07:33] <digitalfreedom> is it a backup hdd?
[07:33] <genii> darkangel by the way it may not find anything when you do that. If so just say
[07:34] <prophitinc> but still i did this last time and had to change something in the folder but what do i change and where did the folder go
[07:34] <digitalfreedom> im lost
[07:35] <darkangel_> :( ok I got the result but how do I paste it? I opend the window for pasting but It says: Make a correction, what's wrong?
[07:35] <digitalfreedom> i couldnt get to my 2nd hdd and i gave up
[07:35] <DennisTT> How can I install Firefox on Kubuntu?
[07:35] <prophitinc> i cant give up
[07:35] <digitalfreedom> dennis apt-get install firefox
[07:35] <genii> Dennis apt-get update && apt-get install firefox
[07:35] <digitalfreedom> hahaha
[07:35] <notech> prophitinc: where is located in the ide chain?
[07:35] <digitalfreedom> gennii is on top of it
[07:35] <digitalfreedom> genii
[07:36] <prophitinc> what do you mean notech
[07:36] <darkangel_> I have firefox genii
[07:36] <darkangel_> ahh sorry it's for denny
[07:36] <notech> prophitinc: primary master, primary slave, etc
[07:36] <prophitinc> linux is on hdd1 and the drive i need to mount is on hdd0
[07:36] <prophitinc> linux is the secondary drive
[07:37] <genii> proph Thats not another drive.
[07:37] <prophitinc> how do i get to the fstab and mtab folders
[07:37] <prophitinc> sure it is...
[07:37] <notech> lost me. a drive has no partition number unless something changed in kubuntu
[07:37] <digitalfreedom> i told you cat /etc/fstab from konsole
[07:37] <genii> No, if it was hda or hdb or hdc it would ne another dirve
[07:38] <prophitinc> linux is on an 8gb bigfoot and the other drive is an 80gb western digital im sure they are different
[07:38] <genii> hdd1 hdd2 hdd3 etc are all partitions on the same drive
[07:38] <notech> prophitinc: hda is primary master, hdb is primary slave, etc
[07:38] <prophitinc> linux is on hdb and the other is hda
[07:38] <genii> There should not even be a hdd0 since they start at 1
[07:38] <prophitinc> ok gotch now...sorry
[07:38] <notech> and which are you trying to mount?
[07:38] <prophitinc> well i have hdd0 hdd1 hdd3
[07:39] <prophitinc> hdd2
[07:39] <prophitinc> to the 80gb
[07:39] <prophitinc> hda
[07:39] <digitalfreedom> so try mount /dev/dd2
[07:39] <digitalfreedom> hdd2
[07:39] <digitalfreedom> hda w/e
[07:39] <digitalfreedom> i need a drink
[07:39] <prophitinc> will that be a permenant mount?
[07:39] <notech> hdd2 would, should be, the second partition on the secondary slave
[07:40] <digitalfreedom> im giving up
[07:40] <digitalfreedom> im just gonna watch
[07:40] <notech> digitalfreedom: am i wrong?
[07:40] <digitalfreedom> no its not you
[07:40] <digitalfreedom> no no no
[07:40] <notech> heh, ok
[07:40] <genii> darkangel - So anyhow. Something that may help with your sound problem. Open up the file /etc/modules and add to the bottom "via82cxxx"  without the quotes. Next time you boot it will load that module.
[07:40] <digitalfreedom> how do you do that
[07:41] <notech> do what?
[07:41] <digitalfreedom> put ppl's names in front like that
[07:41] <digitalfreedom> its been since i used irc
[07:41] <digitalfreedom> years*
[07:41] <genii> I just type em in :)
[07:41] <notech> in xchat just type the first letter or 2 and hit tab for auto complation
[07:42] <genii> (since I'm somewhat anal)
[07:42] <digitalfreedom> sweet
[07:42] <notech> completion
[07:42] <unix_lappy> evenin'
[07:42] <notech> genii: you type too fast then :)
[07:42] <genii> Yeah sometimes
[07:43] <digitalfreedom> notech: i did it
[07:43] <digitalfreedom> thank you
[07:43] <digitalfreedom> it works in Konversation too
[07:43] <genii> I'm using chatzilla so I dunno if it has those features
[07:43] <notech> digitalfreedom: kewl :)
[07:44] <notech> digitalfreedom: just watch it it when there are several nicks that start the same, it'll get you. sometimes you need to hit tab more than once
[07:45] <digitalfreedom> i noticed that
[07:45] <notech> lol
[07:46] <digitalfreedom> i like using keyboard shortcuts anyway...ppl are like wow when you alt+tab through open windows
[07:46] <digitalfreedom> lol
[07:46] <darkangel_> genii i did it, so what exactly is going to happen when I boot?
[07:47] <digitalfreedom> your computer will melt
[07:47] <digitalfreedom> j/k it should load the module nd you should have sound
[07:47] <digitalfreedom> if that was the problem
[07:47] <genii> darkangel When you boot the module which is for the chipset of your soundcard will be loaded into the kernel. So after you get into KDE the speaker icon should be active
[07:48] <digitalfreedom> yeah what i said
[07:48] <digitalfreedom> lol genii just adds more stuff
[07:48] <genii> darkangel if it does not work first time you may need to specify irq dma and some other stuff in there after. But hopefully it will work first time with defaults
[07:49] <darkangel_> I hope so :( well if not I think I'm going to be here asking you crying for help :(
[07:49] <genii> I'll be around :)
[07:50] <genii> darkangel - before you leave hangon a minute
[07:50] <darkangel_> ok
[07:51] <genii> darkangel - Since you will need to reboot anyhow... when the box powers up go into bios and look up the info about what irq, dma and so on the sound is using (if it is on your motherboard which likely it is). then you will have that handy if it needs to be put in hte /etc/modules
[07:52] <genii> If you need to put that stuff I will be around to help you still
[07:52] <digitalfreedom> im making popocorn
[07:53] <genii> OK again I'll ask about my prob LOL - anyone know how to ssh into a headless machine during a netboot install?
[07:53] <digitalfreedom> 0.o
[07:54] <darkangel_> sorry I don't understand.... If it is not enough my english is not so good but in es chanel anyone helped me, could you tell me again what is going to happen but easier to underderstan please, sorry for be so stupid :(
[07:54] <digitalfreedom> your gonna have sound
[07:54] <notech> how could you? if it's still on install then no ssh server has been started
[07:55] <digitalfreedom> if you dont have sound then come back in here
[07:55] <digitalfreedom> cha cha
[07:56] <darkangel_> ok so I'll reboot my pc and I'll tell you what happened
[07:56] <genii> darkangel - You need to reboot your computer for the change in /etc/modules to take effect. When you reboot, before the computer begins loading, you should hit "del" or "f1" etc to go into the BIOS. In the bios you should try to find where the settings for your onboard devices are. You need to look at what interrupt, DMA and other info it gives about that and then write this down.
[07:57] <genii> notech Well I think there may a couple ways to do this
[07:57] <genii> 1- get a kernel with sshd compiled in
[07:57] <genii> 2 - use a pre-execute sommand to insert it as a module
[07:57] <notech> sshd is a server, don't believe that can be compiled in. not like itts a module
[07:58] <digitalfreedom> very advanced
[07:58] <genii> Well, nfs can be compiled in.
[07:58] <digitalfreedom> !nfs
[07:58] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[07:59] <digitalfreedom> wow it came up
[07:59] <notech> good point. never heard of it done with sshd, would be interesting
[07:59] <genii> heh :)
[07:59] <RoKFiT> can anyone help me get giFT to connect with apollon?
[08:00] <notech> althhough nfs isn't exactly a server as far as i know
[08:00] <genii> my current prob is I have 2000 systems to netboot and install and thats a *LOT* of keyboards/monitors/mice etc to have laying around to monitor the process
[08:00] <ajopaul_> i have two sound cards one is pci other is onboard how do i make my one of them as the default one?
[08:00] <genii> nfsd is a server. debian provides a nfs-kernel but I dunno about ssh-kernel
[08:02] <genii> I was toying with building a custom initrd.gz which would have the proper stuff on it but mkinitrd is such a pain in the ass
[08:03] <digitalfreedom> more sound card stuff
[08:04] <digitalfreedom> wel lyou can disable one or the other i suppose
[08:04] <genii> ajopaul - if you're not using both at once I'd suggest disabling the one on your motherboard
[08:04] <genii> LOL dig
[08:04] <digitalfreedom> lol
[08:04] <digitalfreedom> gr8 minds babe
[08:04] <digitalfreedom> lol
[08:04] <notech> genii: not finding anything on google about a ssh-kernel
[08:04] <genii> damn
[08:05] <RoKFiT> what do i have to do to be able to play wmv's
[08:05] <genii> There is a way intftpd to insert stuff to execute before the installer and preseed stuff goes. I may have to do it somehow this way
[08:05] <genii> more PITA reading howtos etc
[08:06] <prophitinc> anyone know how to get into the root account
[08:06] <genii> yes
[08:06] <digitalfreedom> yep
[08:06] <genii> sudo passwd
[08:06] <prophitinc> sudo
[08:06] <prophitinc> ok
[08:06] <genii> then change it to whatever you like
[08:06] <digitalfreedom> or sudo -u -i root
[08:06] <digitalfreedom> then password
[08:06] <digitalfreedom> or open a root shell
[08:07] <digitalfreedom> and then type rm -r /home
[08:07] <digitalfreedom> MWWAAHAHAHAH
[08:07] <genii> heh
[08:07] <digitalfreedom> no dont type that
[08:07] <notech> shouldn't really do that, noob's don't know any better and will do it before you can say don't
[08:08] <digitalfreedom> i know but i cant resist
[08:08] <genii> you know, onetime by accident I installed a program which needed to be installed as it's user. But I did it as root. In the installer it had somewhere "cd / && rm -R *"
[08:08] <digitalfreedom> i have messed my system up so bad sometimes
[08:08] <digitalfreedom> with one mouse click i dropped the ext3 off
[08:08] <digitalfreedom> and got kernel oanic
[08:08] <digitalfreedom> on the restart
[08:08] <notech> so why have others mess up theirs?
[08:09] <digitalfreedom> when you first get linux its hard
[08:09] <genii> "with great power comes great responsibility"
[08:09] <digitalfreedom> no exe's?
[08:09] <digitalfreedom> hahaha
[08:09] <digitalfreedom> and the most is whats a tarball?
[08:10] <notech> even harder when someone tells you to wipe the /home
[08:10] <Phoenix7477> lol
[08:10] <notech> thankfully you left of the -f
[08:10] <digitalfreedom> yeh i know i feel bad now but he hanst left the chat yet
[08:11] <genii> prophitinc - You should probably not mess with logging in as root. Do everything by sudo
[08:11] <digitalfreedom> i left it out and you just old it
[08:11] <digitalfreedom> told
[08:11] <digitalfreedom> yes duo is best
[08:11] <digitalfreedom> sudo
[08:11] <digitalfreedom> some ppl wil type in anything to see wht happens i know i did
[08:12] <notech> digitalfreedom: true, i did. but wasn't given in a complete command :)
[08:12] <digitalfreedom> i know no thats good too
[08:12] <genii> something interesting: if you login as a regular user then execute rsync by way of sudo the files get transferred into the regular users ownership not root
[08:13] <notech> usually the users that say 'what will that do' are eithher wise or been gotten by a given command before. heh
[08:13] <genii> I found this out the hard way
[08:13] <digitalfreedom> ouch genii
[08:13] <genii> I wonder if darkangel's sound is back on :)
[08:14] <notech> yeah, because even as sudo you are still the user, just given power to run a root command
[08:14] <digitalfreedom> they aint back yet so maybe something happend
[08:14] <notech> probably getting irq's, dma's, i/o addresses of all devices :)
[08:15] <digitalfreedom> hopefully anyway
[08:15] <RoKFiT> ThePub: you here?
[08:15] <RoKFiT> wmv support for kaffeine... does anyone know how?
[08:15] <genii> I wonder if I'll have to walk him through how to navigate his bios... I hope not. This stuff can get tedious
[08:16] <notech> guess i'll go watch Stargate. have a good one.
[08:16] <digitalfreedom> yeah even more when you cant see the screen they are looking at
[08:16] <digitalfreedom> peace NT
[08:16] <genii> yup
[08:16] <digitalfreedom> get the single malt whiskey out genii
[08:17] <genii> I think I'll smoke something instead :)
[08:17] <digitalfreedom> yeah now were talking
[08:17] <digitalfreedom> ganga good windows bad
[08:18] <genii> oh something just occurred to me...about firefox etc
[08:18] <digitalfreedom> its better than IE?
[08:18] <genii> anyone know how to specify to use xmms etc to play a url that starts mms://thisplacewithmusic.example
[08:18] <digitalfreedom> mine does it by default
[08:18] <digitalfreedom> after i installed xmms
[08:18] <genii> right now I'm getting some error about unknown protocol etc
[08:19] <genii> Hmm maybe I'll purge xmms and reinstall it then
[08:20] <genii> My friends do a web radio site but I can't get it on linux right now
[08:20] <digitalfreedom> try eh properties downloads view and edit actions
[08:21] <digitalfreedom> then change action
[08:22] <genii> Hmm maybe I'll do that. The problemmatic url is  mms://<IP_ADDRESS>/broadcast   can you get it to play normally? I know he uses windoze stuff as a backend, thought that might be the underlying issue
[08:22] <RoKFiT> can anyone help me play wmv's in kaffeine?
[08:23] <digitalfreedom> take the mms off the url
[08:23] <ajopaul_> i have two sound cards one is pci other is onboard how do i make my one of them as the default one?
[08:24] <genii> something about one of them to be soundcard0 but I forget where to set that
[08:26] <digitalfreedom> did we just go over this
[08:26] <digitalfreedom> my movies wont play all the way neither i get the fbi warning and then it stops
[08:27] <genii> Probably some regional settings crap
[08:27] <abattoir_> digitalfreedom: do you have libdvdcss2 installed?
[08:27] <DennisTT> Hey
[08:28] <DennisTT> I'm trying to edit my Sharing - System Settings
[08:28] <DennisTT> And it asks me to click on the Administrator mode button
[08:28] <DennisTT> And I click it
[08:28] <DennisTT> And it pops up: Su returned with an error.
[08:28] <DennisTT> What am I supposed to do?
[08:28] <digitalfreedom> no but i just read that on the kaff page AB
[08:28] <digitalfreedom> im getting it now
[08:29] <abattoir> DennisTT: it doesn't prompt you for a password?
[08:29] <DennisTT> Nope it just pops up with "Su returned with an error."
[08:29] <genii> odd that su and not sudo
[08:29] <abattoir> DennisTT: did you modify /etc/sudoers?
[08:30] <DennisTT> Nope
[08:30] <DennisTT> I'm going to restart and see if that fixes it
[08:30] <abattoir> DennisTT: try a sudo command in a terminal
[08:30] <abattoir> DennisTT: you should get a more descripted error
[08:30] <DennisTT> Ok I will in a minute
[08:30] <genii> You may want to try apt-get remove --purge su && apt-get install su
[08:31] <genii> I think it could still be a separate package than sudo
[08:31] <RoKFiT> adept_manager and updater keep closing after i've added a repository
[08:32] <RoKFiT> E: Type 'ftp://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/plf/ubuntu/plf/' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:32] <genii> put deb before it
[08:32] <vorpal_> RoKFiT: it needs a deb
[08:32] <vorpal_> genii: beat me to it
[08:32] <genii> :)
[08:33] <genii> sorry
[08:34] <RoKFiT> Still I get... The APT Database could not be opened!  This may be caused my incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem.
[08:34] <genii> try first apt-get update
[08:34] <genii> could be no databse exists yet
[08:34] <RoKFiT> removing the line fixed it
[08:34] <DennisTT> Ok the restart seemed to fix it
[08:35] <DennisTT> Thanks abattoir anyway
[08:35] <RoKFiT> but how can i get kaffeine to play .wmv files?
[08:35] <abattoir> DennisTT: np
[08:35] <abattoir> !codecs | RoKFiT
[08:35] <ubotu> RoKFiT: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:35] <genii> since wmv format is microsoft proprietary I suspect you'll have to wait til someone reverse engineers the codec
[08:35] <abattoir> RoKFiT: follow the links.... unless you use amd64
[08:35] <RoKFiT> i use amd64
[08:36] <abattoir> RoKFiT: oh, then wmv9 doesn't work afaik
[08:36] <digitalfreedom> configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[08:36] <digitalfreedom> nice one
[08:36] <RoKFiT> anything else i can use?
[08:36] <MistaED> wmv plays with the latest mplayer and i think vlc, with open source codecs
[08:36] <abattoir> digitalfreedom: install 'build-essential'
[08:36] <RoKFiT> nothing for kaffeine?
[08:36] <_goofy_> im having problem streaming video off a usb hdd any one have a clue
[08:36] <genii> mplayer is likely best bet
[08:36] <abattoir> digitalfreedom: in either adept or through 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[08:36] <RoKFiT> nothing for kaffeine?
[08:37] <abattoir> RoKFiT: i think a 32-bit chroot is the only option
[08:37] <digitalfreedom> awsime
[08:37] <digitalfreedom> ty
[08:37] <genii> RoK you may want to check sourceforge but I'm doubtful
[08:37] <RoKFiT> do i just have to wait?
[08:37] <abattoir> RoKFiT: i've tried both vlc and mplayer, neither play wmv9 stuff for me
[08:37] <RoKFiT> so...
[08:38] <RoKFiT> just wait?
[08:38] <RoKFiT> heh, when will one be released?
[08:38] <abattoir> RoKFiT: wait for what?
[08:38] <RoKFiT> a w32 codec for kaffeine
[08:38] <abattoir> RoKFiT: for microsoft to port it to 64-bit?
[08:38] <genii> You may want to try something like a windows exe codec for wmv that can support the -d (decompress to raw) then execute it in wine
[08:38] <RoKFiT> no to install a plugin for kaffeine to play wmv
[08:39] <abattoir> no wine in 64-bit as well :)
[08:39] <RoKFiT> just a wmv plugin for kaffeine
[08:39] <genii> geez that sucks
[08:39] <vorpal_> abattoir: why would the codec matter if its run on 64 or 32 bit archatecture?
[08:40] <genii> probably because code-base for wine is intel based
[08:40] <abattoir> vorpal_: because those are 32-bit windows binaries
[08:40] <RoKFiT> so my options are mplayer or vlc and none for kaffeine?
[08:41] <genii> RoK I have a minute or 2 here. I'll look around for something if you can hangon
[08:41] <RoKFiT> thanks
[08:41] <RoKFiT> yeah i saw on the forums people use gstreamer
[08:41] <MistaED> where's the multiarch ubuntu support for apt? :P i reckon there should be an option to have amd64 but have 32-bit programs where it is really needed like codecs/browsers for flash, etc.
[08:41] <RoKFiT> i don't want to do anything illegal though
[08:42] <abattoir> MistaED: they are waiting for dpkg(hence debian) to get it from the ground up
[08:42] <RoKFiT> kaffeine-gstreamer, but i couldn't find it
[08:42] <vorpal_> RoKFiT: are you in the US?
[08:42] <RoKFiT> yes
[08:42] <MistaED> abattoir: ok so in 20 years? cool
[08:42] <MistaED> :)
[08:42] <abattoir> MistaED: hehe
[08:42] <abattoir> MistaED: i heard working is starting after etch(??) is released
[08:42] <abattoir> (hear-say stuff though)
[08:42] <RoKFiT> why vorpal
[08:42] <digitalfreedom> damn it
[08:42] <vorpal_> from what i hear it will be illeagal here is aus too
[08:42] <digitalfreedom> nothing but the warning
[08:43] <vorpal_> cause the US has stupid IP laws that makes everything illegal
[08:43] <abattoir> digitalfreedom: which warning?
[08:43] <vorpal_> (slight exageration)
[08:43] <digitalfreedom> the movie awarning
[08:43] <RoKFiT> yeah i figured using microsoft codecs would be
[08:43] <digitalfreedom> i gt 15 sedonds of video from the dvd then nothing
[08:44] <digitalfreedom> seconds
[08:44] <abattoir> digitalfreedom: you installed libdvdcss?
[08:44] <digitalfreedom> yes
[08:44] <abattoir> digitalfreedom: do you have libdvdread3, libdvdnav4 ?
[08:44] <vorpal_> RoKFiT: it might not be. I know some of the non-free stuff is but i don't know which bits
[08:44] <digitalfreedom> libdvdcss-1.2.9.tar.gz
[08:44] <genii> RoK - There seems to be something useful here about it http://flavor8.com/index.php/2005/10/22/wmv-codecs-for-mplayer-linux/
[08:44] <RoKFiT> it'd just be nice to use 1 player like kaffeine
[08:45] <abattoir> digitalfreedom: ok, do as i say
[08:45] <genii> but your mileage may vary
[08:45] <abattoir> digitalfreedom: make sure you have the universe and multiverse repos enabled...
[08:45] <abattoir> digitalfreedom: do you have them?
[08:45] <digitalfreedom> not yet
[08:45] <digitalfreedom> but im working on it
[08:46] <abattoir> digitalfreedom: ok, once you have them enabled, search for libdvdread and libdvdnav
[08:46] <digitalfreedom> i just get no menu is all
[08:46] <abattoir> digitalfreedom: install those two packages
[08:46] <RoKFiT> genii: anything for kaffeine?
[08:47] <genii> Nah looks mplayer centric
[08:47] <genii> gimme a minute tho and I'll look
[08:47] <abattoir> RoKFiT: tell me if you find a working solution :P
[08:47] <DennisTT> hmmm
[08:48] <abattoir> (apart from a chroot, i.e)
[08:48] <RoKFiT> what is a chroot
[08:48] <DennisTT> What's the username/password to login to samba
[08:48] <DennisTT> from another computer
[08:48] <RoKFiT> abattoir: what is a chroot
[08:48] <genii> RoK according to kaffeine FAQ on their homepage at sourceforge:
[08:48] <genii> 4. How can i play WMV/Quicktime/Real Media files?
[08:48] <genii> Again: Download the latest win32 codecpack from www.mplayerhq.hu and copy all files to /usr/lib/win32.
[08:49] <abattoir> RoKFiT: it's like running a 'mini 32-bit' version... you change root into that to run 32-bit stuff
[08:49] <abattoir> !chroot | RoKFiT
[08:49] <ubotu> RoKFiT: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot use this to build 32 bit environments on a 64 bit box
[08:49] <DennisTT> Oh and how do I change the workgroup of the samba server?
[08:49] <genii> !xen
[08:49] <ubotu> XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenOnEdgy
[08:50] <genii> dennis edit the smbd.conf file
[08:51] <RoKFiT> genii, where is the win32 download located on the page
[08:51] <genii> I'm not sure but it shouldn't be too hidden
[08:51] <RoKFiT> wait, i found it
[08:51] <genii> lemme look LOL
[08:51] <genii> Ah good
[08:51] <RoKFiT> lol
[08:51] <DennisTT> genii: where's the smbd.conf file located?
[08:52] <genii> deniis usually in either /etc or /etc/samba
[08:53] <DennisTT> Thanks genii
[08:53] <genii> Sorry may be named smb.conf not smbd.conf
[08:53] <genii> <- my bad
[08:54] <DennisTT> Yeah it was, no worries I found it
[08:54] <RoKFiT> i can't create a win32 folder
[08:54] <genii> dennis There is an extensive man page for smb.conf with all the things you can set also
[08:54] <genii> RoK You need to do it with sudo mkdir    and so on
[08:55] <RoKFiT> just did
[08:55] <RoKFiT> see this is why i want to run as root
[08:55] <RoKFiT> that kind of work is annoying
[08:55] <genii> LOL
[08:55] <genii> But it constantly reminds you of why it's neccesary
[08:55] <RoKFiT> still no wmv video in kaffeine with that mod genii
[08:56] <RoKFiT> audio though
[08:56] <genii> Interesting
[08:56] <genii> RoK I'm out of ideas ATM now
[08:56] <RoKFiT> vlc works
[08:57] <vorpal_> RoKFiT: before i reinstalled i'm pretty sure i could play wmv in kaffiene, so it can be done
[08:57] <RoKFiT> maybe if i switch the codec to mplayer in kaffeine
[08:58] <genii> I need to go get a coffee. If darkangel returns please let him know I'll be back in about 5-10 minutes
[08:59] <vorpal_> genii: bring me back a mug of caffiene too thanks
[08:59] <vorpal_> black no sugar
[08:59] <RoKFiT> ah shoot now kaffeine isn't playing regular avis
[09:00] <RoKFiT> what did i do?
[09:00] <RoKFiT> i switched to mplayer encoder then switched back to kaffeine and now it's not playing
[09:01] <RoKFiT> oh yeah it is
[09:01] <RoKFiT> sorry
[09:01] <vorpal_> RoKFiT: lol
[09:01] <vorpal_> what was wrong?
[09:01] <RoKFiT> idk i had to switch tabs
[09:01] <RoKFiT> i was on the right tab, but switching tabs worked
[09:02] <prophitinc> notech i know the drive now its hdb1 thats what i want to mount to...how do i do that
[09:02] <Zamber>  how to disable that circle-baloon-whatever tootlips in the bottom bar?
[09:03] <RoKFiT> unlock panel, configure panel,...
[09:03] <prophitinc> can anyone help me mount to hdb1?
[09:04] <RoKFiT> no it's in system settings, appearance
[09:04] <vorpal_> prophitinc: what do you want to do?
[09:05] <prophitinc> i want to mount to my 80g windows harddrive to get my files
[09:05] <prophitinc> and save things there if i can
[09:05] <prophitinc> its hdb1
[09:05] <prophitinc> i know i have to do something like mkdir or whatever
[09:05] <vorpal_> do you know if it's ntfs or fat32?
[09:06] <prophitinc> yes ntfs
[09:07] <vorpal_> sudo mkdir <somedirectory>
[09:07] <vorpal_> depends where you want it to mount
[09:07] <vorpal_> may not need sudo depending on where you choose
[09:07] <prophitinc> does it matter where i mount it?
[09:07] <vorpal_> not really
[09:08] <vorpal_> then
[09:08] <flaccid> mount it in /media or /mnt
[09:09] <vorpal_> sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /<yourdirectory>
[09:09] <vorpal_> no wait a second
[09:09] <vorpal_> you probably want to mount it read only
[09:09] <vorpal_> genii: :)
[09:09] <flaccid> !ntfs
[09:09] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[09:10] <prophitinc> ok
[09:10] <flaccid> ^^ has correct options and masks for ntfs,fat etc
[09:11] <vorpal_> sudo mount -t ntfs -r /dev/hdb1 /<yourdirectory>
[09:11] <vorpal_> i think that should work
[09:11] <vorpal_> prophitinc: make sure you don't write to it or you could seriously fuck it up
[09:12] <genii> yeah ntfs write support is still messed
[09:12] <prophitinc> ok...lol
[09:12] <RoKFiT> bbl
[09:14] <flaccid> use the mask on the help page
[09:27] <ubuntu> hi all ! I have a probem with the arts daemon. When i log in, my computer stops responding for a while, and the arts daemon is using 90% of my CPU usage. Can someone help me ? (I use KUBUNTU Edgy with kde 3.5.5)
[09:30] <vorpal_> ubuntu: is it a fresh install?
[09:30] <ubuntu> yes
[09:30] <llutz> Moin
[09:31] <ubuntu> now i am running from the livecd
[09:31] <ubuntu> and i have the same problem
[09:35] <ubuntu> and other question: I have a Nvidia GeForce4 MX 4000 ; what i must install to have 3d acceleration ( nvidia-glx, or i have to use the nvidia installer )?
[09:41] <sparr> Just encountered the debian mailing list posting from ten years ago where someone pointed out that bashisms are a problem when using another provider of sh.  Always interesting how problems like this seem inconsequential to people with no forward vision.
[09:44] <Linux_Galore> cool just hacked the suse menu (kickoff) onto my kubuntu install
[09:45] <Linux_Galore> Im just hacking some of the eye candy bugs out
[09:46] <Linux_Galore> is very responsive, allot better than kbfx
[09:46] <Linux_Galore> its*
[09:46] <vorpal_> !kickoff
[09:46] <ubotu> Kickoff is a new KDE menu replacement developed by openSUSE. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2331
[09:46] <Linux_Galore> yeah www.kde-apps.org has a .deb  for kubuntu
[10:01] <flaccid> i can't find kick off on kde-apps
[10:04] <aleksanteri> what's the root password by default?
[10:06] <Zamber> man sudo
[10:07] <flaccid> no root pass
[10:09] <aleksanteri> thx
[10:10] <Linux_Galore> flaccid: you wont, its replaces the normal kde menu
[10:11] <flaccid> i found it there 102mb
[10:11] <flaccid> oh they omitted it from serach heh
[10:11] <Linux_Galore> flaccid: just start the normal kde menu in the applets, logout or restart kicker
[10:11] <flaccid> i aint got the bandwidth to d/l it yet dang
[10:12] <Linux_Galore> I had to edit the kmenu.png and the kmenu_basic.mng file
[10:13] <Linux_Galore> wrong size icon
[10:13] <Linux_Galore> I kicked the kbfx menu icons I was using
[10:13] <Linux_Galore> nicked*
[10:13] <Linux_Galore> used gimp to convert one of the png kbfx icon themes to kmenu_basic.mng
[10:25] <digitalfreedom> hi
[10:26] <aleksanteri> i don't remember which kubuntu version have i got (6.06 or 6.10), how can i get it?
[10:26] <llutz> cat /etc/issue
[10:27] <aleksanteri> ok it's 6.06, thx
[10:28] <digitalfreedom> anyone know anyfree ebooks ob cli?
[10:28] <digitalfreedom> on cli?
[10:29] <lotusleaf> digitalfreedom: are you looking for intro to cli basics?
[10:29] <digitalfreedom> something like that..
[10:29] <fdoving> !cli
[10:29] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:29] <lotusleaf> digitalfreedom: check the links @ http://lotusleafslinks.tuxfamily.org/ <- Linux/Command Line
[10:29] <digitalfreedom> awsome
[10:29] <lotusleaf> digitalfreedom: check out linux/command line as well as misc/online books free and linux/various
[10:30] <digitalfreedom> kewl guys thanx..i need mostly network commands netcat..finger whios stuff like that
[10:31] <lotusleaf> digitalfreedom: all that and more =)
[10:31] <lotusleaf> digitalfreedom: yw
[10:31] <digitalfreedom> but im going to make it my goal to be a CLI guru
[10:31] <digitalfreedom> thats a good goal right?
[10:31] <lotusleaf> digitalfreedom: indeed
[10:31] <digitalfreedom> yeah i gave up o nthe underware model career
[10:31] <digitalfreedom> lol
[10:34] <digitalfreedom> call me a throwback but i like reading actual paper books...
[10:34] <digitalfreedom> ok another question im viewing a man page now and how do esc back to cli
[10:35] <lotusleaf> digitalfreedom: hit the q key?
[10:35] <digitalfreedom> beau@beau-desktop:~$ man mkdir
[10:35] <digitalfreedom> Reformatting mkdir(1), please wait..
[10:35] <digitalfreedom> is that bad?
[10:35] <digitalfreedom> i hit q b4 you posted and i got that
[10:35] <digitalfreedom> should i call an ambulance?
[10:36] <lotusleaf> digitalfreedom: there are some good beginner tutorials @ linux.org as well as other places, check the links on my site
[10:42] <digitalfreedom> found a gr8 and im gonna shre the link
[10:42] <digitalfreedom> http://www.hackemate.com.ar/textos/Linux/Linux Complete Command Reference/Linux Complete Command Reference.pdf
[10:47] <flaccid> !openvpn
[10:47] <ubotu> openvpn: Virtual Private Network daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.7-1 (edgy), package size 317 kB, installed size 948 kB
[10:58] <boud> Morning. Does anyone know where the krandr resize and rotate tray applet has gone in edgy?
[10:59] <jasin> hi
[11:05] <vorpal_> !krandr
[11:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about krandr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:05] <Linux_Galore> vorpal_: pfft that wont answer his question
[11:06] <vorpal_> Linux_Galore: i had no idea what it was
[11:06] <vorpal_> i was seeing if it did
[11:06] <Linux_Galore> boud: its an image resize tool
[11:06] <vorpal_> cause i was curious
[11:06] <jasin> hmmm
[11:07] <boud> Linux_Galore: no, it for dynamically setting the resolution and rotation of your screen
[11:07] <boud> using the xrandr protocol
[11:07] <Linux_Galore> boud: I know
[11:08] <boud> Linux_Galore: ok
[11:08] <FreddyM> how can i set Konqueror to have middle click close a tab
[11:08] <boud> Linux_Galore: I'm going to give a presentation today and I used to use it before to set the resolution to the beamer's resolution.
[11:09] <boud> Of course, I can use the command-line utilty xrandr, but I was a comfortable little applet.
[11:11] <Linux_Galore> boud: its in the utilities section under the main menu
[11:12] <boud> Linux_Galore: that's where I looked, but it isn't there, and I cannot find it in adept_manager either.
[11:12] <Linux_Galore> boud: it is for me
[11:12] <Linux_Galore> boud: just run krand in a terminal
[11:13] <Linux_Galore> boud: so you dont have it installed yet ?
[11:13] <FreddyM> !konqueror
[11:13] <ubotu> konqueror: KDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 1953 kB, installed size 5280 kB
[11:14] <boud> Linux_Galore: apparently I had it installed, because from the commandline it worked. Thanks!
[11:14] <Linux_Galore> boud: I dare say its not in your main menu yet because kicker hansnt refreshed
[11:14] <boud> Linux_Galore: that's possible.
[11:15] <genii> !gizmo
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gizmo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <Linux_Galore> boud: also doesnt help that Ive updated my main menu to kickoff so thing are a bit different
[11:15] <genii> !gizmoproject
[11:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gizmoproject - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:15] <genii> hmm
[11:16] <Linux_Galore> genii: its like skype
[11:16] <Linux_Galore> but uses open standards
[11:16] <genii> Yes I know, I have it installed :)
[11:16] <genii> And patched into an esterisk box actually
[11:16] <Linux_Galore> genii: its also closed source so wont be listed
[11:16] <genii> asterisk
[11:17] <aleksanteri> !firefox
[11:17] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[11:17] <aleksanteri> :P
[11:17] <aleksanteri> !opera
[11:17] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[11:17] <genii> hmm I thought it was open
[11:17] <aleksanteri> ^_^
[11:17] <Linux_Galore> it isnt
[11:17] <aleksanteri> no it isn't
[11:18] <Linux_Galore> thats why no one installed opera by default
[11:18] <ubuntu> salut  tous
[11:18] <Linux_Galore> installs*
[11:18] <aleksanteri> :|
[11:18] <aleksanteri> i really should ask them why
[11:18] <Linux_Galore> aleksanteri: because opera is now moving to the portable market
[11:18] <Linux_Galore> ie mobile phones
[11:19] <ubuntu> y a t'il une persone francophone qui peut m'aider s.v.p merci
[11:20] <genii> !conexant
[11:20] <genii> LOL
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about conexant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <jasin> firefox was not default on my system knqueror was.
[11:20] <Linux_Galore> they should but kickoff as the new default menu in kubuntu, it makes kbfx look clunky
[11:20] <aleksanteri> Linux_Galore: ok
[11:20] <Linux_Galore> jasin: thats because ff is gtk
[11:20] <Linux_Galore> jasin: kde isnt
[11:20] <Linux_Galore> sorry konqueror isnt
[11:21] <Linux_Galore> konqueror uses qt like the whole of kde
[11:21] <FreddyM> !fr | ubuntu
[11:21] <ubotu> ubuntu: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[11:21] <jasin> kde? i'm runing kubuntu
[11:22] <jasin> konqueror was default
[11:22] <Linux_Galore> jasin: k = kde in kubuntu
[11:22] <FreddyM> jasin: KDE is the Desktop Envirement
[11:22] <jasin> yes, I'm aware of that
[11:22] <aleksanteri> K Desktop Enviroment
[11:22] <FreddyM> ah okay
[11:22] <aleksanteri> that's where the name comes from
[11:22] <Linux_Galore> ubuntu uses the gnome desktop based on gtk
[11:22] <jasin> I know what kde is
[11:23] <jasin> kubuntu usses kde
[11:23] <B-Minus> nice
[11:23] <jasin> I prefer kde
[11:23] <genii> CDE = Common Desktop Environment  KDE = pun
[11:24] <Linux_Galore> genii: CDE is different
[11:24] <genii> Yes I know. But they modelled KDE after it
[11:25] <aleksanteri> lol
[11:25] <Linux_Galore> genii: to some degree yes. bit like saying Linux is based on Unix, it is to some degree but isnt any more
[11:25] <gposabella> hi there
[11:26] <genii> Well, yes, they are wildly divergent these days :)
[11:26] <Linux_Galore> genii: yeah, edgy killed the init startup
[11:26] <Linux_Galore> genii: thank god for that
[11:26] <gposabella> please, where is the inittab in Edgy ?
[11:26] <dannybuntu> test
[11:27] <genii> Linux is only modelled on Unix as much as Minix was... they do not share a common core tho. *BSD of course has it's more truer unix roots
[11:27] <Linux_Galore> genii: Linus removed all the minix code years ago
[11:28] <jasin> "KDE" stands for "the K Desktop Environment".
[11:28] <jasin> The "K" did indeed stand for "Kool" for a brief period of time back when the earth was warm and dinosaurs terrorized Ringo Starr.
[11:28] <genii> jasin Yes. The K does not stand for a longer word
[11:28] <genii> heh
[11:28] <Linux_Galore> here I was thinking is stood for krap :-P
[11:28] <jasin> In October 1996, Matthias Ettrich posted a message asking for help creating a desktop for his girlfriend which he called the "Kool Desktop Environment", mostly as a pun on CDE (the Common Desktop Environment).
[11:29] <Linux_Galore> s/is/it/
[11:29] <lm_> hey there can anybody tell me, why the **** my xp machine still asks for a username and pass, even thought my shared folder is public?
[11:29] <lm_> i just dont get it
[11:29] <jasin> kde i smuch better then gnome
[11:29] <jasin> kde is much better then gnome
[11:29] <genii> I actually prefer gnome
[11:29] <Linux_Galore> lm_: whats XP
[11:29] <jasin> lol
[11:29] <lm_> windows xp
[11:29] <aleksanteri> dead smiley
[11:29] <digitalfreedom> whats windows?
[11:29] <lm_> lol
[11:29] <aleksanteri> lol
[11:29] <Linux_Galore> lm_: you have a window called XP ?
[11:30] <lm_> comon...be seriously :D
[11:30] <lm_> nope
[11:30] <lm_> its called ibm
[11:30] <digitalfreedom> lol
[11:30] <digitalfreedom> o.0
[11:30] <aleksanteri> Windows XP (dead smiley :P )
[11:30] <lm_> hehe
[11:30] <genii> lm_ you are trying to access a shared folder on your windoze box from an ubuntu machine?
[11:30] <Linux_Galore> lm_: I wouldnnt have a clue, I havent used a crashware Microsoft program in 9 years
[11:30] <lm_> genii: nope the other way around
[11:30] <digitalfreedom> crashware YEEEHAAAAAA
[11:31] <lm_> genii: trying to acces my home folder on my kubuntu box
[11:31] <jasin> linux is not uncrashable
[11:31] <Linux_Galore> jasin: neigther is a T-72 tank, so
[11:31] <jasin> linux is actually quit easy to crash
[11:31] <Linux_Galore> jasin: neither is a T-72 tank, so
[11:31] <Linux_Galore> grr
[11:31] <jasin> linux is actually quit easy to crash
[11:31] <lm_> digitalfreedom: at least, windows lets me share my folders prperly and withot problems
[11:32] <digitalfreedom> lnux lets me too
[11:32] <digilux> hey
[11:32] <genii> lm_ the login name you use for windows login is what gets passed to the samba so it it isn't the username on the ubuntu box it will fail auth and ask you again
[11:32] <lm_> digitalfreedom: hmmm... i guess linux favors you
[11:32] <Linux_Galore> lm_: actually I share files between machines all the time, I can start a random ftp file share in 4 seconds
[11:32] <digilux> where: Metamorfozis ???
[11:32] <digilux> XD
[11:32] <digitalfreedom> because i let go of windoze for stable reliabe bug free os
[11:32] <Linux_Galore> lm_: theres even a simple share applet in kde, but you dont know that because your stuck in winsuck land
[11:33] <digitalfreedom> you just have to RTFM with liux its not the lazy mans OS windoze
[11:33] <jasin> linux just dont crash on a daily bases like windows does, but it is crashable, its actually quit easy to crash linux.
[11:33] <genii> lm_  you can set in the smb.conf something which I think is "guest ok = yes" or similar which will override it
[11:33] <Linux_Galore> jasin: I havent crashed a linux machine in months
[11:33] <lm_> genii: ....what? so you meani should login with the user and pass i use to login on my windows box?
[11:34] <lm_> oh ok
[11:34] <Linux_Galore> jasin: you can crash Linux but only if you do something really dumb as root
[11:34] <digitalfreedom> yeah like i did once when i eleted my ext3 off the drive
[11:34] <digitalfreedom> deleted
[11:34] <digitalfreedom> single malt whiskey is good
[11:35] <digitalfreedom> but it sometimes impeded the typing skillz
[11:35] <digitalfreedom> and vision
[11:35] <genii> lm_ No. What I'm saying is if you have a folder on the samba box whose files are owned by "george" but you default login to windows as "administrator" the XP box tries to auth as "administrator" to the samba server to get files owned by "george". So it fails then asks you for the user and password again
[11:35] <digitalfreedom> hardyar
[11:36] <Linux_Galore> yeah, the problem with windows is it keeps shifting how it uses smb on every update, why cant Microsoft just stick to one method instead of adding layers of BS that stuff it all up
[11:36] <digitalfreedom> one of the gr8 unanswerale questions of the universe
[11:37] <Linux_Galore> I have zero issues with samba and the Linux desktops at work, but god help me every time a XP machine updates it cant find samba
[11:37] <digitalfreedom> i know how to fix your problem lm sudo to root then type rm -r /home then look away
[11:38] <genii> lm_ Anyhow there are a *LOT* of options for smb.conf which can be seen with man smb.conf   One of them is to allow guest access which is likely what you want.
[11:38] <digitalfreedom> znd throw in -f oo
[11:38] <Linux_Galore> anway, as of last week all the XP machines got formated into hell
[11:38] <Linux_Galore> anyway*
[11:38] <digitalfreedom> anowho
[11:38] <digitalfreedom> anywho*
[11:39] <lm_> genii: thanks alot ill try my way trough this
[11:39] <genii> lm_ break a leg :)
[11:39] <digitalfreedom> or a keyboard
[11:39] <genii> heh
[11:40] <jasin> The Synaptics TouchPad driver for linux crashes many distros. It'll crash the system is bad that'll it'll break the kernel.
[11:40] <digitalfreedom> anyone here read the book The Heretic?
[11:40] <genii> also you can purposely set a null password for a samba user with smbpasswd -n username
[11:41] <jasin> linux is not crash proof.
[11:41] <llutz> jasin: never had any trouble with xorg-driver-synaptics in any distro
[11:41] <genii> but it has better airbags
[11:42] <jasin> I have, with ubuntu and fedora.
[11:42] <llutz> jasin: not with knoppix, kanotix, dapper, edgy, grml
[11:42] <digitalfreedom> apps might crash but not the whole system
[11:42] <digitalfreedom> no blue screen hell or memory dumps
[11:43] <genii> no just the occasional core dump :)
[11:43] <genii> LOL
[11:43] <digitalfreedom> lol
[11:43] <Linux_Galore> I havent had a core dum in 2 years
[11:43] <Linux_Galore> dump*
[11:43] <jasin> digtal, a kernel panic is basically the entire system going down.
[11:43] <digitalfreedom> better se a doc for that man
[11:43] <digitalfreedom> sounds painfull
[11:43] <digitalfreedom> ROFL
[11:43] <jasin> digtal, i got those all the time in redhat.
[11:43] <Linux_Galore> usually I find core dumps are due to beta code
[11:43] <genii> I think the last core dump I had was on a freebsd 4.8 box
[11:44] <genii> more often it's "kernel panic" this or that
[11:44] <digitalfreedom> tried to kill init process
[11:44] <digitalfreedom> lol
[11:44] <Linux_Galore> yeah I used to  have kernel panics in the old 2.4 days but you shouldnt have them now
[11:45] <vlad92> i have a Genius eye 311Q webcam; how can i use it on Kubuntu (i don`t find any drivers) ?
[11:45] <jasin> most of the time when i got a kernel panic it would either kill the entire system or it'd kick me back to lilo.
[11:45] <Linux_Galore> vlad92: did you look it up on www.google.com/linux
[11:45] <genii> I would get total system freeze with all keyboard lights goin
[11:45] <jasin> linux, yeah, there what .. s11's now?
[11:46] <vlad92> no
[11:47] <vlad92> i didn`t know this site
[11:47] <vlad92> thanks
[11:47] <Linux_Galore> vlad92: there are over 2-3 million devices you can plug into a PC, so best to check on www.google.com/linux first