[10:43] <zequence> k, now they're discussing whether or not have a feature freeze :P
[10:55] <astraljava> What, is the non-UDS going now?
[11:29] <zequence> No feature freeze before Thursday anyway
[11:29] <zequence> Well, that's the pre decided date
[11:30] <zequence> So, no change really
[11:30] <zequence> Just the uncertainty that it may never happen
[11:36] <astraljava> That's the best ever.
[11:36] <zequence> astraljava: the non-UDS begins at 14.00 UTC today
[11:38] <zequence> What will happen next? Ubuntu changes its name to Ubuntulene and starts wearing dresses?
[11:40] <zequence> ..only that it would be surprising, nothing else
[11:52] <zequence> micahg: I did a test build of the meta, and it works. The auto build recipy did not(but that seems to have been because of an old BZR version)
[11:53] <zequence> hmm, actually
[11:53] <zequence> I've changed the seeds since then, only slightly
[11:53] <zequence> But, I'm pretty sure that change does not do anything for the meta
[11:54] <zequence> Rather a question of why the build failed, and what other changes to the seed may come
[11:54] <zequence> anyway, the metas are doing what they are supposed to now
[12:55] <zequence> astraljava: Len-nb holstein: UDS introduction will be at #ubuntu-uds-plenary 14.00 UTC, so I guess in one hour
[12:56] <zequence> And the link to the video is http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/meeting/21601/introduction/
[13:03] <astraljava> zequence: *smirk* Always expect the unexpected. Murphy's law, evil will prevail yadda yadda. :) I'll see if I can make it, but I could only stay for less than half an hour, gotta go play badminton.
[13:04] <astraljava> Though I'd like to see sadbfl present Ubuntu on Toasters in a pretty dress. That would rock.
[13:04] <zequence> That would be almost expected
[13:05] <zequence> ..considering how many surprises we are getting now
[13:06] <zequence> At 18.15 UTC, they discuss whether or not keep rolling release http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1303/meeting/21683/community-1303-rolling-release/
[13:08] <zequence> smartboyhw: Hi
[13:08] <zequence> Well on time for the UDS introduction, I see
[13:08] <smartboyhw> no
[13:09] <smartboyhw> I''m on mobile
[13:09] <smartboyhw> I am supposed to be revising for tests.
[13:17] <smartboyhw> zequence: ^
[13:24] <zequence> smartboyhw: Well, there are probably more important sessions to attend anyway
[13:24] <zequence> It's just nice to be there from the start, I think
[13:25] <smartboyhw> zequence: Just update us along the way. I'm off my computer for 3 days because of tests.
[13:25] <zequence> smartboyhw: School tests, you mean?
[13:26] <zequence> That's too bad. The videos will be available aftwerwards, so you won't miss anything
[13:26] <smartboyhw> yep
[14:05] <smartboyhw> UDS time!!!!
[16:14] <smartboyhw> zequence: Good post.
[16:16] <zequence> smartboyhw: Thanks
[16:41] <zequence> Funny that my website ISP went down just as I'm actually using it
[20:24] <micahg> zequence: ok, let me try to update based on your branch then
[20:45] <zequence> micahg: Thanks
[20:51] <zequence> micahg: I think that might be the best. Since the meta seems good, I can just work with the seeds. I might need some help debugging them. Who should I ask about that? I noticed cjwatson been helping us some on that
[20:51] <zequence> I'm thinking people are rather busy right now
[20:52] <micahg> I'll take a look at the logs a bit later
[20:53] <zequence> The logs just end with "building dependencies..". No clue to what went wrong there, from where I stand
[20:55] <micahg> hrm, might be the metas
[20:56] <micahg> hrm, dvd logs look good, weird
[20:56] <micahg> ah, it's 2 days old :)
[20:57] <zequence> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/raring/ubuntustudio-dvd/20130305/livecd-20130305-amd64.out
[20:58] <zequence> So, all the packages are rebuilt for each DVD build?
[20:59] <micahg> no, but the dependency tree has to make sense
[20:59] <zequence> hmm, ok
[21:01] <micahg> zequence: FTW, fiddling with the seeds won't help if what it's pulling from the archive doesn't install together
[21:11] <zequence> micahg: Ok. I was doing that a bit, but since you mentioned the upload, my latest commit should be ok for the metas