[10:15] <_4strO> jan__: i will verify on my laptop
[10:15] <jan__> Sound Juicer works fine. Acidrip as well (for video that is)
[10:15] <jan__> _4strO: thanks
[10:15] <Jucato> how about kaudiocreator?
[10:16] <jan__> Jucato: haven't tried that one yet. One moment.
[10:16] <Jucato> and the audiocd:/ kioslave? hm.. how about installing "liblame0"? not really sure
[10:17] <_4strO> ha yes, i cant encode in mp3 with k3b
[10:17] <_4strO> thought so ...
[10:17] <ardchoille> k3b rocks!
[10:17] <_4strO> sure
[10:17] <jan__> Jucato: liblame0 is installed
[10:17] <Jucato> hm...
[10:18] <jan__> Jucato: kaudiocreator has MP3 as an option
[10:18] <Jucato> have you tried restarting k3b?
[10:19] <jan__> Jucato: yep, a few times already
[10:19] <Jucato> does audiocd:/ also have an MP3 folder?
[10:20] <jan__> Jucato: yes, it does
[10:20] <Jucato> it's not empty?
[10:20] <Jucato> if so, it might be a K3b problem...
[10:20] <jan__> I see files, so you might be right then
[10:21] <jan__> Blast, there goes a chapter in the book
[10:23] <jan__> It is to risky to describe this option for newbies if it doesn't work out of the box. Too bad, but thanks for helping out.
[10:23] <jan__> I will add the audiocd:/ option to the chapter instead.
[10:24] <Jucato> or kaudiocreator, if you want a specialized app for it
[10:26] <jan__> Jucato: that one too, as an alternative to Sound Juicer
[10:26] <jan__> Okay, back to writing it is. See you all and thank you
[10:45] <jordo23> Why whenever I use ark to extract a .tar.gz file I get an error that says the extraction operation failed....
[10:45] <TheInfinity> ark sometimes strange errors ...
[10:45] <TheInfinity> *has
[10:45] <TheInfinity> did you try it by using console?
[10:46] <jordo23> TheInfinity: no....will try......which options would ark emulate?
[10:47] <jordo23> by default...
[10:47] <TheInfinity> hmm ... something like tar -xf yourarchivename.tar
[10:47] <TheInfinity> thats unextracting ... perhaps there you will get a better descr ...
[10:48] <jordo23> TheInfinity: Would the fact it's final extension is .gz matter?
[10:49] <premier_> Hello, I'm having trouble with png support.  Earlier today someone told me to reinstall qt... I'm hoping for a better answer
[10:49] <premier_> Its not showing pngs in konqueror, and nothing seems to display them correctly, such as gwenview... krita doesn't know how to use them, but...
[10:50] <premier_> konqueror will show them if they are part of a webpage.  Also, firefox will show them without any trouble
[10:51] <TheInfinity> then its a tar.gz ... so ypou have to use tar -cvzf file.tar.gz
[10:52] <TheInfinity> args sorry wrong
[10:52] <TheInfinity> tar xvzf file.tar.gz is should be
[10:54] <jordo23> TheInfinity: Is there a better GUI archive program?
[10:54] <TheInfinity> jordo23: good question ... i never found one ... sometimes i miss winrar unde rlinux
[10:55] <jordo23> TheInfinity: lol
[10:55] <TheInfinity> i like rar because its extreme efficent ;)
[10:59] <bahr> TheInfinity: You can get rar and unrar for linux?
[10:59] <TheInfinity> yes but not rar with such a lot options ;)
[11:00] <bahr> TheInfinity: What options are you looking for?
[11:00] <TheInfinity> for example the reconstruction of damaged archives is with rar really good
[11:01] <bahr> TheInfinity: Have you seen the man page for rar? There are options for reconstruction
[11:02] <TheInfinity> or - on the other hand - compression rate ... also really nice :)
[11:04] <bahr> TheInfinity: Ok I don't know about compression rate, but I know there are many options with rar which you can configure
[11:06] <kraut> moin
[11:11] <annee> Heeey
[11:13] <david2> What's the nest way to make a full backup an exact mirror of a linux install?
[11:16] <bahr> david2: I use acronis, but that's not open-source but it works very well for my needs
[11:17] <david2> I saw something about rsync
[11:17] <david2> but I always f up using that
[11:23] <bahr> david2: well you need to update your grub.conf if you want the option to press F11 at boottime to restore
[11:29] <Simeon_H> why did my CD's arrive so quickly? :/
[11:30] <Jucato> and you're complaining? O.o
[11:31] <Lynoure> Simeon_H: you can shelf it for a week or five if you wish
[11:32] <Simeon_H> no I just wanna know why they only took like two weeks to get from the Isle of Man to australia and through customs and everything :/
[11:32] <Simeon_H> or more importantly, how
[11:33] <Jucato> of course by the magic of Ubuntu :)
[11:33] <Simeon_H> meh it says pass it on?
[11:34] <Simeon_H> is this like the shareware version of doom where if you don't distribute it to everyone some dude comes and hacks your arms off?
[11:35] <bahr> I got my CD's within two weeks too :)
[11:37] <bahr> If I want to get involved with Kubuntu programming slowly, what kidn of programming languages do I need to learn? And is it possible to start slowly and build up skills in programming and still help? I only have experiences with C and C# programming
[11:37] <stalker_> i think c is enough
[11:38] <stalker_> but kde is c++ btw
[11:38] <Chousuke> C++ is pretty easy to learn if you know C
[11:38] <Chousuke> even easier if you know C# I suppose
[11:38] <Lynoure> but C is not easy to do well.
[11:39] <Chousuke> true.
[11:39] <stalker_> and don't start writting your own programs, start by examining existing ones, and impoving them
[11:39] <stalker_> like making patchs, and so on
[11:39] <bahr> I'm not an advanced C programmer
[11:39] <bahr> but I would like to be :P
[11:40] <bahr> allright, where do I find the source code for these programs?
[11:40] <stalker_> i'm not advanced too, and i wrote a bunch of gnome apps:/
[11:40] <Simeon_H> I wouldn't
[11:40] <stalker_> don't worry about that
[11:40] <Simeon_H> I'd like to be an electronics engineer
[11:40] <Simeon_H> seeing as that's what I'm studying :/
[11:40] <stalker_> go to kde site, there you can find
[11:40] <Lynoure> bahr: that's why you should prepare for them to reject/modify your patches the first 15 times :) It's good for the skin too, thickens it :)
[11:41] <stalker_> bue beware that kde is currently working on 4.0 version
[11:41] <stalker_> so you come in some fog right now
[11:41] <bahr> Lynoure: well I have nothing against that, I know there are a bunch of people out there, who are lightyears in front of my programming skills :) I just want to help, and hopefully I get better with time and experience.
[11:42] <Lynoure> bahr: sounds like you have what it takes then: motivation and willingness to learn
[11:42] <bahr> Ok, well I am looking for a starting point
[11:42] <stalker_> how long do you use kde?
[11:42] <bahr> Lynoure: yeah that I definitely have :)
[11:42] <stalker_> did you noticed any bug that is pissing you off?
[11:43] <stalker_> if so, dive into the code:)
[11:43] <stalker_> join mailing list
[11:43] <bahr> stalker_: Well not that long, I have used some different things during the time I used linux. Fluxbox, KDE, Gnome etc. but now I stick to KDE. It's the one I like the most
[11:43] <stalker_> hint: don't say on it: an i work on this bug:)
[11:43] <stalker_> can*
[11:43] <bahr> stalker_: but I don't know anything about the "inner" workings of KDE though
[11:44] <stalker_> you don't need, starts with some app in kde, not kde core
[11:44] <pand> Hello
[11:44] <Simeon_H> DOWN WITH TEH SOFTWARE PATENTS!
[11:44] <bahr> stalker_: ok :)
[11:45] <pand> I wonder how can I translate KDE documentation into other languages e.g. into Polish
[11:45] <pand> anybody knows where I can find documents explain it?
[11:45] <stalker_> translators.kde.org, i think, then find your countrymates first
[11:45] <pand> I'm going to check it, thanks
[11:46] <stalker_> don't be one man show, there's are many polish guys working on it
[11:46] <stalker_> best practice i saw is to ask what need s to be translated on polish lang mailing list
[11:46] <Skrot-> Hi. Any chance 2.6.21 will be backported to feisty?
[11:46] <_4strO> http://l10n.kde.org/
[11:46] <_4strO> pand: http://l10n.kde.org/$
[11:47] <pand> so firstly I want to get knowledge how to make translate and then I'm going to join to the Polish team
[11:47] <_4strO> oups without the $
[11:47] <bahr> But If I install a c/C++ dev environment, am I then ready to start playing around with patches and things that annoy me?
[11:47] <stud> ...     .?
[11:47] <stalker_> you need .po file and kbabel app - that's it;)
[11:47] <bahr> ok :)
[11:47] <pand> Thanks once again : )
[11:47] <stalker_> if you can compile it, then you're ready
[11:48] <bahr> Well I better get started now then :P
[11:49] <stalker_> take it slowly;)
[11:49] <stalker_> just don't give up on first error:)
[11:49] <bahr> stalker_: hehe I keep that in mind :)
[11:49] <stalker_> beggining to work on someone else code is far more harder then any programming
[11:50] <stalker_> hint: take smaller apps:D
[11:50] <_4strO> stalker_: depend of the original programmer ;)
[11:50] <stalker_> yeah:)
[11:50] <bahr> stalker_: Yeah I have experience with that from my education :)
[11:50] <stalker_> but, lloking to me, i would rather write my 10.000 lines of code then add 100 in existing:)
[11:51] <_4strO> i'm trying to learn C but it's very hard :p
[11:51] <Simeon_H> no it isn't
[11:51] <bahr> stalker_: sometimes working with your own OLD code with out comments, can be worse to lol
[11:51] <Simeon_H> if you use printf and scanf to output :P
[11:51] <stalker_> your code 6 months old is not your code anymore:D
[11:51] <_4strO> ^^ thats the magical thing :)
[11:52] <stalker_> printf is a joke, right?
[11:53] <Simeon_H> ....
[11:53] <Simeon_H> no I use it
[11:53] <stalker_> dont' use printf if possible, good old debbuger is only thing you need
[11:53] <stalker_> even gdb from console is better then inserting random printf
[11:53] <Simeon_H> meh It's all I need to know at this bound
[11:53] <Simeon_H> *point
[11:53] <_4strO> a="is"; printf("think it %s",a);
[11:54] <Jucato> ... and the magical !offtopic flag will soon be raised...
[11:54] <Simeon_H> next up is microcontroller asm :S
[11:54] <stalker_> lol
[11:54] <mikelima> hi all.
[11:54] <_4strO> hi
[11:55] <stalker_> is ktorrent mature enough? (azureus mature?)
[11:55] <mikelima> I am a bit puzzled. I'm trying to install wine on a kubuntu feisty (AMD_64) installation.
[11:55] <mikelima> Isn't wine supported on 64bit?
[11:55] <mikelima> because I can't find the package...
[11:56] <Jucato> mikelima: I'm afraid not.
[11:56] <mikelima> only winelib.
[11:56] <mikelima> Oh. Ok.
[11:56] <n0ts> Hi,
[11:56] <Jucato> mikelima: better ask in #winehq to be sure
[11:57] <Jucato> stalker_: I guess that depends on the azureus features that you are looking for. for basic torrent needs, ktorrent is good enough, without the overhead of java
[11:57] <mikelima> Well, thank you.
[11:57] <stalker_> last time i used it (6 months ago) and wanted to only seed existing torrent, it added 700mb to tracker (as i downloaded it:o)
[12:00] <Jucato> stalker_: lot of versions released since that time
[12:01] <stalker_> yeah, i guess it's ok now
[12:01] <stalker_> it works ok, and jvm is'nt more in memory:)
[12:06] <strog_> hi
[12:06] <strog_> i have a porblem with using the apt-get install in the console
[12:07] <strog_> i always get an error message that it couldnt find the package
[12:07] <strog_> famous ones like kdevelop or vlc mediaplayer
[12:09] <strog_> anybody there?\
[12:10] <rbrunhuber> Can anybody help me with debugging/testing cronjobs?
[12:10] <stalker_> better ask on #ubuntu
[12:14] <stalker_> you cant' debug it
[12:14] <strog_> i have a problem with the apt-get install command, when i want to install vlc mediaplayer i get the error message that the package isnt there
[12:15] <stalker_> but you can `touch` some file, and see later if it's vreated
[12:15] <stalker_> strog_: try on #ubuntu or some debian, obviously noone knows
[12:17] <Jucato> strog_: check if you have the correct repositories enabled. have you tried installing using Adept?
[12:22] <flake> is xrandr unsupported on feisty?
[12:23] <flake> trying to link against  /usr/bin and finding some undefined references
[12:23] <Skrot-> What are you trying to compile?
[12:23] <flake> an irrlict program
[12:23] <phpcode> do linux have a program thats like deamon tools in windows?
[12:24] <flake> trying to get it to restore the desktop after fullscreen
[12:24] <Skrot-> I think xrandr is supported
[12:25] <Skrot-> flake: You might want libxrandr-dev libxrandr2 and xlibs-dev installed though
[12:25] <Skrot-> hum.. xlibs-dev depends on libxrandr-dev so no need to install both
[12:27] <tarelerulz> It there any easy way to see if  you have wep for or way to install it ?
[12:27] <tarelerulz> For wireless connnections?
[12:28] <flake> I already have the packages
[12:30] <ktarded> tarelerulz: What are you trying to do?
[12:32] <tarelerulz> Well, I will network that are not free like library and stuff and I want to know what I will need to get onto them and I thought wep was something I need
[12:34] <tarelerulz> On stuff like library I don't think you need something like wep ,but on not open network I would like to know what I need ?
[12:36] <tarelerulz> Ktarded , what do you think ? what do you need for stuff like coffie shop and other hot spotes
[12:36] <AdrenaliN198306> Hi, I was wondering if someone could help me through downloading and install the orinoco wireless driver in kubuntu i386
[12:38] <faik> hello
[12:38] <faik> anyone installed Geforce 7600 on ubuntu ?
[12:39] <morfejas> sweiki yra lt?:)
[12:39] <faik> does anyone speak russian ?
[12:39] <morfejas> I not
[12:39] <morfejas> :)
[12:40] <faik> where are u from ?
[12:41] <tarelerulz> I have aunt that is Runssain . I learn the word for yes haha
[12:44] <faik> so anyone know how to install Geforce 7600 driver on ubuntu ?
[12:44] <loxley_> ps aux
[12:44] <loxley_> oops :)
[12:44] <faik> lol
[12:45] <faik> aux )
[12:46] <faik> anyone play world of warcraft ) ?
[12:47] <tarelerulz> Faik, So you have verion of warcraft tha works with wine
[12:51] <flake> why is it, when playing wolf - et, the monitor goes dark and I have to calibrate the gamma to reset the brightness?
[12:51] <flake> using feisty
[12:52] <flake> it's kind of annoying, wondering if it has to do with a screensaver setting or power option or something
[12:58] <tmulvaney> is kubuntu feisty faster than edgy due to qt4?
[12:58] <sercik> Hi people!!
[12:59] <Fusselwurm|w0rk> feisty uses kde3.x, just as edgy... and kde3 depends imho on qt3
[12:59] <sercik> i'm here to help! because i have solver all my problems with kubuntu (??)
[12:59] <tmulvaney> is worth upgrading to?
[01:00] <tmulvaney> it looks the same, whats under the hood
[01:02] <sercik> feisty is slower than edgy
[01:04] <lucifer_>
[01:04] <lucifer_> ?
[01:10] <Fusselwurm|w0rk> ubuntu, wrong channel ;)
[01:17] <caris_mere> I need some help installing Kubuntu
[01:17] <caris_mere> I am installing with disk. it now says "/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[01:20] <caris_mere> What does this mean? /bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off
[01:21] <caris_mere> I can't get my computer to start up the live disk
[01:37] <Stardog> ! tar.bz2
[01:37] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[01:39] <Stardog> so... I have a file wich is kompressed in tar.bz2..... it wont open with ark... or.. it opens in a window... but nothing will apear... anyone know why?
[01:40] <Skrot-> Stardog: Try "bunzip2 yourfile.tar.bz2" in a shell
[01:41] <darkolaus> hello everybody
[01:41] <darkolaus> i have a question with KPPP, may I ask?
[01:41] <seishinbyou> good evening
[01:41] <Skrot-> !ask
[01:41] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[01:41] <sherin> hey guys
[01:41] <Stardog> Skrot-: k... thx
[01:42] <darkolaus> ok iv just installed kubuntu 7.04
[01:42] <darkolaus> and when i start KPPP error message appears:
[01:42] <darkolaus> /etc/resolv.conf is missing or can't be read!
[01:42] <darkolaus> Ask your system administrator to create this file (can be empty) with appropriate read and write permissions.
[01:42] <nate_> so whos next inline to help with my simple yet gay problem lol
[01:42] <darkolaus> when i try to create the file
[01:42] <darkolaus> i cant, that is i dont have permitions
[01:43] <darkolaus> im a linux novice
[01:43] <darkolaus> so any help is appreciated
[01:43] <Skrot-> darkolaus: Do you know how to access the shell/terminal?
[01:43] <darkolaus> i think so
[01:43] <Skrot-> Or command line interface
[01:43] <Skrot-> Whatever it's called :p
[01:43] <darkolaus> i know
[01:43] <dhq> hey i have nvdia grafix card mx 4 i dont know how to get it to work
[01:43] <darkolaus> i need to do a sudo thingy
[01:43] <darkolaus> right?
[01:43] <Skrot-> Maybe, lets see
[01:44] <darkolaus> ok lets see
[01:44] <Skrot-> Open the command line interface and enter "cat /etc/resolv.conf" -- let me know if that returns anything
[01:44] <Skrot-> Without the "'s around
[01:44] <darkolaus> ps im on windows now
[01:44] <seishinbyou> nvidia?  Did you install the restricted drivers?
[01:44] <Skrot-> ah
[01:44] <darkolaus> but ok i can hybernate and then return here
[01:45] <Skrot-> If you can return here while in linux, why do you need KPPP?
[01:45] <dhq> hey i have nvdia grafix card mx 4 i dont know how to get it to work
[01:45] <seishinbyou> what isn't working
[01:45] <darkolaus> no no no ill try what you said
[01:45] <Skrot-> darkolaus: ah hold on
[01:45] <darkolaus> on kubuntu and then return to windows
[01:45] <Skrot-> darkolaus: You've got something to write on?
[01:45] <darkolaus> yes
[01:45] <flake> dhq - are you running feisty
[01:46] <dhq> flake, yes
[01:46] <flake> get driver from linux website
[01:46] <dhq> flake, huh
[01:46] <seishinbyou> I did mine by installing "restricted-manager"
[01:46] <flake> doh from nvidia website
[01:46] <seishinbyou> and using that to get the nvidia drivers
[01:46] <flake> my bad
[01:46] <Skrot-> darkolaus: Okay, try "cat /etc/resolv.conf" first. If that says no such file or something similar, try "sudo touch /etc/resolv.conf;sudo chmod 755 /etc/resolv.conf"
[01:46] <flake> and be in terminal - non-gui mode, to install it
[01:46] <darkolaus> skrot-: ok thanx ill try it
[01:47] <dhq> flake, i installed nvidia-glx it doent load the module
[01:47] <nate_> well, heres the deal, ive install fiesty on my laptop, all went well, update, got berly going, installed some apps. i dont know what i did but all the little icons in the bottom right next to the clock are gone, and even tho i right click, add times, the ones i want arent there, main one is knetwork manager, so i can use mu wireless, how the hell do i get them all back there? :( also my sound is borked, but after some googling thats going to be a pain in the
[01:47] <nate_> as
[01:47] <flake> still need the driver from nvidia
[01:48] <seishinbyou> beh, for the nvidia thing, I just did "sudo apt-get install restricted-manager" from a terminal, ran it, clicked the nvidia box, entered a password, and after restarting X, *poof* much happiness
[01:48] <dhq> !nvidia
[01:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:49] <Skrot-> nate_: Right click the kicker panel (the one where the clock is) -> Add Applet to Panel -> System Tray -- if it's not on that list something else is wrong.
[01:51] <nate_> ok i did that, the only things that came up where, the speaker, clip board, and battery :(
[01:51] <Skrot-> nate_: Then start the other apps.. "knetworkmanager" for instance
[01:51] <Skrot-> nate_: If it doesnt appear after that, try "killall knetworkmanager" and start it again
[01:53] <nate_> yay, its there, thanks heaps, also, my boot process takes a while, it pauses on looking for resume image, even when i shut down
[01:53] <nate_> adds a good 15seconds or so
[01:53] <Xtacy> IS there a problem with nvidia on fiesty ?
[01:54] <Skrot-> Ive got nvidia on feisty without any trouble
[01:54] <seishinbyou> Not for me...
[01:57] <soviet>
[01:57] <seishinbyou> Is it possible to have SCIM allow for input from two different keyboards in two different layouts in the same time? (i.e. Japanese on the QWERTY, Arabic on the DVORAK)
[01:57] <nate__> how do i turn off the mouse over info in the tabs, it looks crap cause the beryl ones are working
[02:00] <seishinbyou> nate__: In the System Settings,
[02:00] <soviet>   .   ;;
[02:00] <seishinbyou> Actually, right click the panel and go to settings
[02:00] <seishinbyou> In the "Appearance" section
[02:00] <seishinbyou> uncheck the "General" boxes
[02:00] <seishinbyou> I'm not using an English interface, so I don't know what it is in English
[02:04] <flake> dhq, are you doing ok with it so far
[02:04] <nate__> any ideas on how to get  a intel HDA card working :( its the only thing make me sad now
[02:04] <Skrot-> Funny.. my intel hda card worked out of the box
[02:05] <Skrot-> nate__: lsmod | grep snd return anything
[02:05] <Skrot-> ?
[02:06] <nate__> shouldi paste here?
[02:07] <dhq> flake, do i have to install build-essentials
[02:07] <Skrot-> No, no need. Did it return "snd_hda_intel" and "snd_hda_codec"?
[02:07] <Skrot-> Among others
[02:07] <nate__> ill look
[02:07] <nate__> nate@natious:~$  lsmod | grep snd
[02:07] <nate__> snd_hda_intel          21912  5
[02:07] <nate__> snd_hda_codec         205440  1 snd_hda_intel
[02:07] <Skrot-> right. Try starting kmix and check that the sound isn't muted
[02:07] <flake> wouldn't hurt
[02:08] <dhq> flake, flake ???
[02:08] <darkolaus> thanx skrot- that worked
[02:08] <flake> dhq  I'm here, it wouldn't hurt
[02:08] <Skrot-> darkolaus: No problem. You're online from linux now?
[02:08] <darkolaus> no i have just one more problem
[02:08] <Dekkard> !mp3
[02:08] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:08] <darkolaus> how to find out where my winmodem is linked i tried /dev/modem
[02:09] <Skrot-> No idea about winmodem .|
[02:09] <flake> did you see the nvidia instructions on installing the driver?
[02:09] <darkolaus> ok nvmind
[02:09] <darkolaus> does anyone knows?
[02:09] <BluesKaj> howdy all :)
[02:09] <Skrot-> darkolaus: Are you trying to connect using dial-up modem?
[02:09] <dhq> flake, where do i see
[02:09] <darkolaus> skrot-: yes
[02:09] <dhq> flake, just help me
[02:09] <flake> you say it is geforce 4 series?
[02:09] <nate__> the 2 top ones were full, bottom one was half, and how do you force kill apps, amarok keeps freezing everytime i try and place somthing
[02:10] <dhq> flake, yes
[02:10] <Skrot-> darkolaus: Might want to have a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[02:10] <flake> quadro fx 4600 or 5600
[02:10] <flake> that type?
[02:10] <darkolaus> dial-up modem = winmodem
[02:10] <flake> http://www.nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp
[02:10] <darkolaus> skrot: ok i'll look
[02:10] <flake> select Graphics Driver, cardtype, then os
[02:11] <flake> it will take you to the screen w/ instructions
[02:11] <Dekkard> how do you get mp3 playback with noatun?
[02:13] <darkolaus> skrot-: ok thanx i found smth that i think is usable, your the best
[02:13] <flake> you can't install the nvidia driver while kde is up, I believe
[02:14] <flake> dhq what's your status
[02:16] <dhq> flake, just a sec
[02:17] <dhq> flake, nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x]  (rev c1)
[02:18] <flake> yes you want the gforce 4 series driver
[02:18] <flake> I assume you are on a 32-bit os, so here:  http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-9755.html
[02:19] <flake> click on supported products on left and you'll see your card in the list
[02:22] <nate_> what are some must have apps for linux?
[02:22] <flake> gimp
[02:22] <flake> open office, MM3D
[02:23] <flake> wine if you want to try running some of your windows stuff
[02:23] <nate_> whats MM3D? i have office and gimp
[02:23] <seishinbyou> sshd?
[02:23] <nate_> and is there away to have widgets? and change the clock to 12hr lol
[02:24] <flake> mm3d is if you want to build some basic 3d models and animate them
[02:24] <Jucato> !superkaramba | nate_
[02:24] <ubotu> nate_: superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[02:24] <flake> you have to build from source though
[02:24] <Jucato> nate_: to change to 12-hour, right-click on the clock -> Date & Time Format -> Date & Time tab
[02:25] <BluesKaj> !qemu
[02:25] <ubotu> qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[02:26] <nate_> yay
[02:27] <nate_> is there away to emulate xp in linx and have full support on everything? or the best would be to dual boot for gaming
[02:27] <flake> for gaming, best to dual boot imo - emulating xp is like putting a volvo engine in a lambroughini
[02:27] <seishinbyou> For gaming, if it won't run under wine, then dual boot
[02:27] <seishinbyou> VMWare is available, but you won't get native speed on 3d graphics
[02:28] <seishinbyou> It is more than sufficient for things like photoshop and msoffice if you need it
[02:28] <seishinbyou> or any work-related windows-only software
[02:28] <nate_> oh ok, thats handy
[02:28] <seishinbyou> qemu is the free alternative to vmware
[02:28] <seishinbyou> kqemu is the accelerated version I think
[02:29] <Jucato> kqemu is an accelerator of sorts for qemu. it's not a qemu version (afaik)
[02:29] <flake> can qemu handle windows 98 for the older games, including the directx3-6 range?
[02:29] <nate_> its funny that wireless worked out the box with kubuntu but didnt for xp/vista, ive migrated from xp>vista>xp>osx86>xp>kubuntu, abit confusing, but seems nicer
[02:30] <seishinbyou> Possibly, but I haven't tried.  I could try firing up Diablo or something
[02:30] <seishinbyou> dosbox is good for the older dos games
[02:30] <seishinbyou> depends on what you are running, actually
[02:31] <olympic_> fwfewefwef
[02:32] <nate_> are there any "special repositories" if you know whati mean, and is a anti virus needed on linux?
[02:32] <flake> mech 2 mercenaries - titanium, and mech 2 titanium
[02:33] <flake> wine wouldn't handle it, or something about my xrander libs but everything seems up to date
[02:35] <nate_> is there a better kernel i should be using with a core duo?
[02:38] <flake> dhq how are you doing
[02:41] <seishinbyou> mech 2 mercs?  Dosbox should be able to handle that
[02:42] <seishinbyou> nate_: anti-virus on Linux?  Erm...you could try using Wine to run Kapersky if you *really* wanted
[02:43] <llutz> antivirus: amavis, clamav, f-prot (all native linux, no wine required)
[02:43] <ubuntu> ahoj potrebuju pomoct ohledne linux kubuntu
[02:43] <Jucato> !cz | ubuntu
[02:43] <ubotu> ubuntu: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[02:44] <seishinbyou> Meh
[02:45] <seishinbyou> But I remember using f-prot
[02:45] <seishinbyou> (old DOS version)
[02:50] <sercik> hi
[02:51] <sercik> someone is interested to a program like babylon in windows??
[02:51] <skane> how i can open reposites in kubuntu 6.06 LTS?? thx
[02:51] <seishinbyou> babylon?
[02:52] <seishinbyou> Oh
[02:52] <_4strO> skane: kdesu /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:52] <RobNyc-work> Hello, as I'm using xchat on gnome each channel is highlighted in red when i receive messages, but here in kubuntu it doesnt work like that
[02:52] <Jucato> !repositories | skane
[02:52] <ubotu> skane: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:52] <_4strO> skane: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:52] <sercik> is a program that tranlate on the fly
[02:52] <sercik> from many to many languages
[02:52] <Jucato> !info kbabel
[02:53] <ubotu> kbabel: PO-file editing suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.6-0ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 1664 kB, installed size 5380 kB
[02:53] <skane> thx veru much
[02:53] <sercik> Jucato: i have found a procedure and a great guide to use babylon dictionary and convert it to .dict
[02:53] <MementoMori> hi all
[02:53] <sercik> if someone is interested...
[02:53] <dhq> flake, pm please
[02:53] <MementoMori> I have a problem install kubuntu on a i386 pc
[02:53] <stdin> can someone with a fresh feisty install check if there is a drop down menu on top of the configure panel dialog, from right-clicking the panel and choosing "Configure Panel..."?
[02:53] <seishinbyou> translation on the fly is a real pot-shot, but it depends on your source material
[02:54] <seishinbyou> stdin: yes
[02:54] <sercik> MementoMori: what do you need??
[02:54] <flake> dhq ok one sec
[02:54] <stdin> seishinbyou: like this? http://www.zone.ee/zeroconf/errors/kubuntu_7-04_taskbar_changes_not_working/kubuntu_6-10_KDE_3-5-4.png
[02:54] <MementoMori> I did text install from dvd and put grub in mbr but after reboot  grud loads until stage 1.5 and then it says "Error 17"
[02:55] <MementoMori> s/grud/grub
[02:55] <seishinbyou> right click, go to $B%Z%M%k%a%K%e!<(B and select $B%Q%M%k$N@_Dj(B
[02:56] <MementoMori> I saw a strange thing while I was installing the system
[02:56] <sercik> i have found a guide in italian that say the problem could be a alsa module
[02:57] <MementoMori> I have only a ide hd on primary master and two dvd device on secondary channel
[02:57] <MementoMori> but installer saw my hd as sda
[02:57] <seishinbyou> stdin: I see
[02:57] <MementoMori> instead of hda
[02:57] <seishinbyou> If you don't have 2 panels, I don't know if that is displayed
[02:57] <sercik> i don't know why but sometimes happens, this shouldn't be a problem
[02:57] <llutz> MementoMori: sda because of the libata, all ide-devices are mapped now into sdX
[02:57] <sercik> do you have a linux live cd??
[02:58] <stdin> seishinbyou: it normally is, and I do have 2 panels
[02:58] <seishinbyou> stdin: Oh.  Just a second.  I'll try some things
[02:58] <MementoMori> llutz: ok so sda/hda name swapping isnt a problem
[02:58] <MementoMori> but what about grub error?
[02:58] <sercik> no don't worry
[02:58] <sercik> you can try to reinstall grub
[02:58] <annee> heeyyy
[02:59] <MementoMori> I have a generi floppy disk with grub
[02:59] <MementoMori> may I use it?
[02:59] <stdin> seishinbyou: I didn't notice it missing before, but someone posted a message to the mailinglist saying it was missing. and it is for me on a new install, but it's there on a system upgraded from edgy
[02:59] <MementoMori> or there is a way to boot from dvd in rescue mode?
[03:00] <sercik> if you can access to your linux partition you can send me your menu.lst file
[03:00] <sercik> the problem should be that grub is not able to mount partition
[03:00] <Jucato> stdin: what's missing?
[03:00] <sercik> probably because an error in menu.lst
[03:00] <RobNyc-work> Hello, as I'm using xchat on gnome each channel is highlighted in red when i receive messages, but here in kubuntu it doesnt work like that .. anyone else using xchat ?
[03:00] <MementoMori> sercik: I'll try to access the disk but gimme just 10 minutes, ok?
[03:00] <sercik> konversation
[03:01] <sercik> yes
[03:01] <sercik> i'm here
[03:01] <stdin> Jucato: the panel chooser dropdown menu: http://www.zone.ee/zeroconf/errors/kubuntu_7-04_taskbar_changes_not_working/kubuntu_6-10_KDE_3-5-4.png
[03:01] <MementoMori> ok thank you
[03:01] <seishinbyou> stdin: Okay, that might be the case
[03:01] <seishinbyou> I'm on an upgraded system
[03:01] <Jucato> stdin: is it your problem? just restart kicker
[03:01] <sercik> RobNyc-work: i like konversation as irc client
[03:01] <seishinbyou> I would have to install a new system to try
[03:01] <sercik> is already installed in kubuntu
[03:01] <Jucato> afaik it's a KDE 3.5.5-.6 intermittent bug
[03:01] <RobNyc-work> sercik, i dont think there are any scripts for it like sysinfo ones
[03:01] <stdin> Jucato: I have it too, but others have it (it was reported on the mailing list)
[03:02] <sercik> RobNyc-work: i don't use script sorry!
[03:02] <Jucato> stdin: yeah it's sort of a bug that I still haven't been able to pin down
[03:02] <RobNyc-work> hehe
[03:02] <sercik> you can tri to wun mirc wirth wine!
[03:02] <sercik> you can try to run mirc wirth wine!
[03:02] <seishinbyou> why would you do that?
[03:02] <zenekk> dupa
[03:02] <stdin> Jucato: restarting kicker doesn't solve it here
[03:03] <Jucato> stdin: "dcop kicker kicker restart" doesn't work?
[03:03] <seishinbyou> konversation isn't going to save the world, but I don't have a problem with it, and it works with international character sets just fine
[03:03] <seishinbyou> mIRC keeps screwing up the CJK encoding for me :(
[03:03] <robewald> hi, how can i make the java console visible in firefox?
[03:03] <stdin> Jucato: it restarted kicker, but didn't bring back the dropdown menu
[03:04] <sercik> seishinbyou: i like konversation its clean and speed and works good for me
[03:04] <Jucato> stdin: hm... can you try looking into kcontrol itself? and do you have 2 panels right now?
[03:05] <stdin> Jucato: ahh, it just showed up
[03:05] <stdin> Jucato: strange little bug there
[03:06] <DJServers> hi all
[03:06] <Jucato> the fact that it's so intermittent makes it annoying even more
[03:08] <sercik> can i have krandrtray in kubuntu??
[03:08] <sercik> i like it but i can't find
[03:08] <sercik> or to have another tool in tray that permit to switch resolution??
[03:09] <Jucato> hm? Alt+F2, "krandrtray"
[03:10] <sercik> i'm stupid!!
[03:10] <sercik> i search in apt-cache and in synaptic but i wan not able to find it
[03:10] <MementoMori> sercik: ok. I have menu.lst
[03:10] <MementoMori> !paste
[03:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[03:11] <MementoMori> !nopaste
[03:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nopaste - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:11] <seishinbyou> krandrtray, woot.  Now I can run at 320x240
[03:11] <makki> after update no taskbar!! please help to return it
[03:11] <sercik> MementoMori: paste that
[03:11] <MementoMori> sercik: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21127/
[03:11] <sercik> that you need to explain me: how much hard disk do you have??
[03:12] <seishinbyou> makki: right click the panel.  "Add to Panel"  Select Taskbar
[03:12] <Jucato> sercik: it's because it's not in a separate package. krandrtray is part of kdebase
[03:12] <MementoMori> sercik: I have sda1: windows; sda2: swap; sda3: /; sda4: /home
[03:12] <sercik> Jucato: thank you!!
[03:12] <sercik> MementoMori: do you have only one HD??
[03:13] <sercik> and is configured as primary master??
[03:13] <MementoMori> sercik: yes
[03:13] <sercik> are you able to start other OS?
[03:13] <MementoMori> sercik: no because of grub error
[03:14] <sercik> ah so you don't see list of operating system?
[03:14] <MementoMori> grub stop working before menu loads
[03:15] <MementoMori> no. grub stop at stage 1.5 with error 17
[03:15] <sercik> can you edit menu.lst file??
[03:15] <orient2000> Hi! I have some problem with Evolution. I have only one font style. No bold characters for e-mail or diferent size. Do I miss some any packages?
[03:15] <MementoMori> yes I can because I booted with a finnix live cd
[03:16] <sercik> probably if you can't see list of operating system the problem is in grub and not in menu.lst you can try for a guide in internet..
[03:17] <sercik> it is possible to copy grub in a floppy and start the system with it
[03:17] <MementoMori> sercik: how can I do this?
[03:17] <sercik> you can also try to substitute hd0 with sd0 in menu.lst
[03:18] <sercik> but first you could delete grub from mbr at least you could boot windows xp
[03:18] <sercik> you need a dos boot disk and do the command fdisk /mbr
[03:19] <seishinbyou> will that work on a usb clipdrive, too?
[03:19] <seishinbyou> assuming you can boot from usb
[03:20] <MementoMori> what should I copy to the floppy to have a grub shell on boot?
[03:20] <sercik> i have a guide but is in italian
[03:20] <MementoMori> sercik: this is great because I'm italian ;)
[03:21] <seishinbyou> lucky night
[03:21] <sercik> Ciao!
[03:21] <MementoMori> ciao!
[03:22] <sercik> wait a minute i search it
[03:22] <MementoMori> ok
[03:23] <sercik> i remeber bad i have found the guide but is in english but i don't think this is a problem for you
[03:23] <seishinbyou> wow, ntfs tools didn't choke on my ntfs drive
[03:24] <seishinbyou> will wonders never cease
[03:24] <seishinbyou> Which is great because Windows chokes on that drive
[03:25] <DJServers> i have a question
[03:26] <stdin> !ask | DJServers
[03:26] <ubotu> DJServers: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[03:26] <DJServers> i have downloaded an MTA Server but when i try t install it in konsole i typ: sudo apt-get install mta_server but then it says cannot find tthe file
[03:27] <seishinbyou> !uboto
[03:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uboto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:27] <seishinbyou> just checking :)
[03:27] <DJServers> somebody nows i need the server before saturday
[03:28] <BluesKaj> DJServers, to what folder where did you downloads the file ?
[03:29] <DJServers> to; /home/frank/MTA-Server
[03:29] <DJServers> test
[03:29] <BluesKaj> what kind of file is it ?
[03:29] <DJServers> wait a sec
[03:30] <jakelights> help please what is the command if my adept crashes?
[03:31] <DJServers> ehm.. how to say it in english it is an useble file or something:P i am from hollan so
[03:31] <stdin> !aptfix | jakelights
[03:31] <ubotu> jakelights: If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[03:32] <jakelights> thanks
[03:32] <BluesKaj> DJServers, what's the file extension ?
[03:33] <DJServers> where can i see that?
[03:33] <stdin> !postfix
[03:33] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[03:33] <BluesKaj> usually the last couple of letters in the file name
[03:34] <DJServers> BleusKaj, where can i see that ?
[03:34] <BluesKaj> the name of the file
[03:35] <DJServers> there just stand mta_server
[03:35] <DJServers> not any more
[03:38] <BluesKaj> DJServers, http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialMailMTA.html#MTA
[03:38] <DJServers> BleusKaj. what to do now?
[03:38] <DJServers> o
[03:38] <stdin> or use postfix
[03:38] <DJServers> and that is
[03:38] <stdin> !postfix
[03:38] <DJServers> but its an game server
[03:38] <ubotu> postfix is the default Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) for Ubuntu. Read more about setting it up here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix or here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto
[03:38] <DJServers> no no not the MTA Mail Server
[03:39] <DJServers> the MTA Game Server For GTA San Andreas
[03:39] <stdin> where did you download it from?
[03:40] <BluesKaj> DJServers, http://wiki.mtasa.com/index.php?title=MTA:SA_Race-Linux_Server_Guide
[03:40] <DJServers> http://www.mtasa.com/dl-archive.html
[03:41] <DJServers> i have a look there
[03:43] <BluesKaj> !dual-boot
[03:43] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[03:46] <ubuntu> hi, hab rger mit der kubuntu installation. kann mir jemand helfen?
[03:47] <dergringo> ubuntu: #kubuntu-de
[03:47] <Jucato> !de | ubuntu
[03:47] <ubotu> ubuntu: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:49] <mo0osah> !konversation
[03:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about konversation - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:49] <BluesKaj> what's the best way to preserve grub (dual boot) while reinstalling windows ?
[03:50] <Jucato> there is no way... you will have to reinstall grub
[03:50] <Jucato> Windows doesn't really give you the choice not to install it's own bootloader
[03:51] <BluesKaj> ok , wife insists on the windows option til she gets used to edgy.
[03:51] <Jucato> reinstall windows, then reinstall grub
[03:51] <stdin> vmware not an option?
[03:51] <BluesKaj> she's very reluctant
[03:51] <Jucato> or that
[03:52] <BluesKaj>  not on her old pc
[03:52] <stdin> just follow the reinstalling grub guide then
[03:53] <BluesKaj> right , I have the supergrub cd
[03:54] <mo0osah> How do I make the user list visible in konversation
[03:55] <zhangkai> ctrl+h
[03:55] <zhangkai> mo0osah
[03:55] <mo0osah> thanks!
[03:57] <DJServers> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[03:57] <DJServers>   Major opcode:  145
[03:57] <DJServers>   Minor opcode:  3
[03:57] <DJServers>   Resource id:  0x0
[03:57] <DJServers> Failed to open device
[03:57] <_4str1> !baddevice | DJServers
[03:57] <ubotu> DJServers: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[03:58] <DJServers> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[03:58] <DJServers>   Major opcode:  145
[03:58] <DJServers>   Minor opcode:  3
[03:58] <DJServers>   Resource id:  0x0
[03:58] <DJServers> Failed to open device
[03:58] <DJServers> kdecore (KProcess): WARNING: _attachPty() 11
[03:58] <DJServers> i get that
[03:58] <DJServers> o thx
[03:58] <mo0osah> Is it possible to make konversation transparent?
[03:58] <AFaith> hello people
[03:58] <AFaith> have a question
[03:58] <AFaith> does anyone of you know
[03:58] <AFaith> what happens on pclinuxos irc channel ?
[03:59] <sercik> AFaith: yesterday you asked how to create a .deb package??
[03:59] <AFaith> sercik: yes :P
[03:59] <sercik> i have created three .deb
[03:59] <sercik> but i suspect that they are not able to check dependendies
[04:00] <AFaith> sercik: i've found a very good tutorial on howtoforge
[04:00] <AFaith> about creating deb packages
[04:00] <sercik> the program is checkinstall you need only to ./configure and then you need to do sudo checkinstall
[04:00] <AFaith> yes, i referring on the same program :)
[04:00] <sercik> at the end you have a backup a .deb qnd the software already installed
[04:02] <sercik> i need the last thing to make my kubuntu perfect... an installation of win2k with usb working
[04:02] <AFaith> sercik: i don't understand
[04:03] <AFaith> whats the connection between a perfect kubuntu and win2k ?
[04:03] <sercik> i mean win2k virtualized under kubuntu
[04:03] <sercik> i have tried but i'm not able to do usb working
[04:04] <AFaith> oh... i see
[04:06] <pgquiles> is there anything like manedit for KDE?
[04:09] <DJServers> http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors  i cant change the xorg.conf then it says connot be saved no acces to this file
[04:09] <DJServers> only the owner can change the acces
[04:11] <_4strO> DJServers: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:12] <unixguru88> what is java path which is to be set in opera
[04:16] <DJServers> i cant rewirt the .conf file
[04:16] <seishinbyou> I just use "sudo vi xorg.conf", but you would have to know the vi commands
[04:16] <_4strO> DJServers: kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:17] <DJServers> yeah i can open it but when i changed it i cant save it
[04:17] <DJServers> thats the prob
[04:17] <_4strO> DJServers: ??? you type 'kdesu' ?
[04:18] <DJServers> where to type? in konsole ?
[04:18] <_4strO> DJServers: yes, type : kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:18] <mo0osah> !rar
[04:18] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[04:18] <neurobug> hi everyone
[04:18] <_4strO> last time i say it to you ...
[04:19] <neurobug> somebody help meeeeeee!
[04:19] <_4strO> !ask | neurobug
[04:19] <ubotu> neurobug: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:19] <DJServers> look now i get this wait a sec
[04:20] <neurobug> I changed the screen resolution to 1440x900 but when I reboot the pc, the resolution is 1024x768 again
[04:20] <DJServers> kbuildsycoca running...
[04:20] <DJServers> kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!
[04:20] <DJServers> Invalid entry (missing '=') at /tmp/kde-root/kconf_updateKARzQa.tmp:1
[04:20] <DJServers> kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:20] <seishinbyou> neurobug: using a thinkpad?
[04:20] <_4strO> DJServers: dont paste plz
[04:20] <_4strO> i know what you have ...
[04:20] <DJServers> ok srry
[04:20] <DJServers> hey it open
[04:20] <_4strO> ;)
[04:20] <seishinbyou> hooray for modern technology
[04:20] <DJServers> but can i now change it?
[04:21] <seishinbyou> you're the one with the keyboard
[04:21] <_4strO> DJServers: you open it as the root user (kdesu) so you can do everything
[04:21] <DJServers> okay thx
[04:22] <DJServers> its saved thx you!! very much!! no lets see if the server rins
[04:22] <_4strO> neurobug: can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[04:23] <DJServers> *runs
[04:23] <neurobug> I'm using a laptop: hp pavilion dv9000
[04:24] <neurobug> The nvidia driver are succesully configured
[04:24] <_4strO> neurobug: can you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[04:24] <style> good morning
[04:24] <_4strO> yop style
[04:24] <DJServers> _4str0 how to delete the backup file: xorg.conf-old
[04:25] <style> hi _4strO
[04:25] <_4strO> DJServers: why you wanna delete this file
[04:25] <DJServers> well i still get the same error when i open my server
[04:25] <_4strO> is you have any pb one day, it could be usefull to have a correct backup
[04:25] <DJServers> yeah but now my server still dunst work
[04:26] <DJServers> wait a sec
[04:26] <DJServers> nope
[04:26] <neurobug> nop, i can't paste it... the Konversation blocks the flood
[04:26] <_4strO> DJServers: if you have modify something in your xorg.conf you have to reload your X server
[04:26] <DJServers> i still get the same error
[04:26] <NiceGuyUK> !paste > neurobug
[04:26] <DJServers> how to do that?
[04:26] <DJServers> i am new whit linux
[04:26] <_4strO> !paste | neurobug
[04:27] <ubotu> neurobug: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[04:27] <NiceGuyUK> lol, thx _4strO
[04:27] <DJServers> how to restart X Server ?
[04:27] <sercik> DJServers: listen me
[04:27] <NiceGuyUK> DJServers: CTRL-ALT and Backspace
[04:27] <DJServers> ok
[04:27] <sercik> press ctrl-alt-F1
[04:27] <_4strO> DJServers: close your session and reopen it or just ctrl-alt-backsapce (will close the session)
[04:27] <sercik> you go in console
[04:27] <sercik> then you need to do sudo /etc/init,d/kdm stop
[04:28] <sercik> then you can try to edit your xorg.conf
[04:28] <sercik> and you can try to start X with command startx
[04:28] <_4strO> sercik: [16:27]  <-- DJServers a quitt ce serveur (Remote closed the connection).
[04:28] <sercik> so you can see error in console and you can search on google fot that error or ask gere
[04:29] <sercik> _4strO: probably he hace pressed ctrl-alt-F1 too soon :)
[04:29] <_4strO> sercik: ctrl-alt-backspace i think
[04:30] <sercik> ctrl-alt-backspace
[04:30] <sercik> is to close X
[04:30] <sercik> but kdm always restart itself
[04:30] <_4strO> i know i know ...
[04:30] <NiceGuyUK> better than ALT-SysReq-S,U,B I suppose ;-)
[04:30] <sercik> What??
[04:31] <NiceGuyUK> sercik: kernel level reset
[04:31] <sercik> i don't know that command couls you explain better?
[04:31] <seishinbyou> You could rip the power cable out, plug it back in and boot again, but I'm impatient
[04:31] <seishinbyou> s/impatient/overstressed/
[04:31] <NiceGuyUK> sercik: that combination of keys sync's disks, unmounts them, then reboots the machine
[04:32] <NiceGuyUK> sercik: useful when things lock up completely, cos its at kernel level so normally works in emergencies
[04:32] <sercik> but which is the key sysreq??
[04:32] <sercik> S.U.B. i don't understand
[04:32] <NiceGuyUK> sercik: shared key with PrintScreen
[04:34] <main2> does kubuntu have a firewall turned on by default?!
[04:34] <NiceGuyUK> sercik: means hold the ALT and SysReq keys, then press S then U then B (BUT NOT NOW! ;-) )
[04:34] <sercik> increbible combination!!
[04:35] <NiceGuyUK> designed so you don't press it by accident :-)
[04:35] <NiceGuyUK> main2: no, but it doesn't have many ports open by default either
[04:35] <sercik> i can't resist i need to try!!
[04:36] <NiceGuyUK> lol
[04:36] <_4strO> NiceGuyUK: what about iptable N
[04:36] <_4strO> ??
[04:37] <seishinbyou> main2: lokkit, guarddog are available
[04:37] <seishinbyou> haven't tried firestarter
[04:37] <NiceGuyUK> _4strO: I think its installed but not enabled.  could be wrong though
[04:37] <NiceGuyUK> sercik: see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/457 for more magix SysReq commands
[04:37] <sercik> try kmyfirewall is very complete and have a nice interface
[04:37] <seishinbyou> iptables is there by default, though
[04:37] <sercik> NiceGuyUK: you are a Guru nice to meet you
[04:38] <cristina>
[04:38] <mo0osah> how do you minimize firefox to tray
[04:38] <sercik> the name of my girlfriend is cristina :) but she don't like pc
[04:38] <dromer> I'm trying to install the ubuntu.deb of BALLview: http://www.ballview.org/BALL/Downloads/BV-1.1.1/  but I'm having unmet dependecies: python2.3
[04:38] <dromer> but I can't get python2.3 from the repo's
[04:38] <sercik> so you are not she
[04:38] <dromer> can I use 2.4 or 2.5 instead?
[04:39] <NiceGuyUK> dromer: best thing is to just try I think
[04:39] <dromer> er, is that the _best_ thing?
[04:39] <dromer> I was hopeng advice from someone ith experience could help me better ;)
[04:40] <flyingyellowpig> hi there'
[04:41] <seishinbyou> Does the "windows" key have a function by default in KDE (am I missing something if I don't have that key?)
[04:42] <sercik> no it doesn't
[04:42] <seishinbyou> Okay then.  No loss
[04:42] <dromer> hmm, I really need python 2.3 I guess, the program can't run on 2.4 or 2.5 (which I already have installed ..)
[04:43] <NiceGuyUK> dromer: 2.3 hasn't been offered in the repos since the old Warty release.  I'd try to find a 2.3 deb from Google or something
[04:43] <flyingyellowpig> does anyone in here have tried fedora 7 or fedora core?
[04:43] <NiceGuyUK> dromer: do they offer a source tarball of the app instead of the deb ?
[04:44] <seishinbyou> why wouldn't you want the deb for (k)ubuntu?
[04:44] <amik> hi all, I have a question about Kate search/replace regex syntax
[04:44] <seishinbyou> dpkg -i (package).deb
[04:44] <seishinbyou> replacing what with what?
[04:44] <NiceGuyUK> seishinbyou: cos of dependency issues
[04:44] <dromer> NiceGuyUK: http://www.ballview.org/BALL/Downloads/BV-1.1.1/
[04:45] <amik> how do I specify a placeholder in the replace string if it's followed by a digit?
[04:45] <dromer> NiceGuyUK: ok, http://www.ballview.org/Downloads/Releases/BALL-1.1.1.tar.gz
[04:46] <NiceGuyUK> dromer: are you familiar with compiling from code or would you need help ?
[04:46] <dromer> NiceGuyUK: I _have_ done it before, but I don't do it that often, I could use some help yes ;)
[04:46] <NiceGuyUK> hmm, if its python, its not compiled anyway
[04:46] <NiceGuyUK> I'm downloading it to take a look
[04:47] <dromer> ok thnx :)
[04:47] <amik> for example, moving digits 3,4 in a 4 digit number to positions 2,3: "10([0-9] [0-9] )" -> "1\10"
[04:49] <nordseebaer> hi
[04:49] <seishinbyou> my mind is a blank for that; I'd just give up and use a perl/python script, but I'm funny that wayu
[04:50] <Daisuke_Ido> hmm
[04:51] <Daisuke_Ido> decided to bind win+k to konqueror.  it crashed kicker :\
[04:51] <sparrw> when i click a system tray icon and it opens/displays a window, i would like that window to appear on the current desktop.  is that possible at a WM/DE level?
[04:51] <sparrw> Daisuke_Ido: im still trying to figure out why two kubuntu installs from the same disc have different kde hotkeys.  one has alt+f2 for the run dialog, the other has win+r
[04:52] <Daisuke_Ido> that is odd
[04:54] <mo0osah> is there a disk management tool in kde
[04:54] <mo0osah> !disks
[04:54] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[04:54] <seishinbyou> like what, gparted?
[04:55] <NiceGuyUK> dromer: they hard-coded the dependency to a particular version.  You could edit the deb and make it more generic I suppose
[04:55] <mo0osah> no like just something to see how much space you have on your disks
[04:55] <dromer> NiceGuyUK: hmm, how could I do that? :$
[04:55] <NiceGuyUK> mo0osah: from a console, try df -h
[04:56] <sparrw> amik: good luck re kate regex...  its horrible
[04:56] <dromer> NiceGuyUK: I'd really like to try this software
[04:56] <NiceGuyUK> dromer: open the deb with Ark, extract control.tar.gz, open that with Ark, edit the file called control
[04:56] <NiceGuyUK> dromer: then archive it back up again
[04:56] <NiceGuyUK> messy, but it might work
[04:57] <amik> sparrw: thanx :-) but I'm just wondering if there's an undocumented way of doing it, or if it's a bug (I get an error message looking for placeholder number 10)
[04:57] <mo0osah> NiceGuyUK, thanks
[04:58] <dromer> NiceGuyUK: hmm :S
[04:58] <mo0osah> NiceGuyUK, there's nothing graphically equivalent?
[04:58] <dromer> maybe next time :S
[04:58] <mo0osah> !processes
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about processes - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <amik> though maybe the fact that it's undocumented can be filed as a bug anyway...
[04:58] <mo0osah> !process manager
[04:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about process manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:58] <sparrw> amik: afaik, the entire regex part of kate is undocumented
[04:59] <seishinbyou> processes?  ps -ax
[04:59] <seishinbyou> paramaters vary
[04:59] <NiceGuyUK> dromer: in the source package is a debian folder, with an install script for making it from source
[04:59] <NiceGuyUK> might be easier
[05:00] <amik> sparrw: IM doing my best to migrate from Windows, but this system just has so many loose ends interfering with day to day work :-(
[05:00] <amik> this is just one small one amongst many
[05:00] <flyingyellowpig> Which one is better fedora core/7 or kubuntu?
[05:00] <sparrw> amik: i moved from textpad on windows to kate on linux, so everything was an improvement.  if youre used to something like ultraedit then youre in for a small step down  :(
[05:01] <Flosoft> hi
[05:01] <Flosoft> I want to add an Epson Stylus C66 to my printers
[05:01] <amik> sparrw: I actually used both TextPad and Notepad++. TextPad can do a whole lot of stuff I'm really missing (or were u referring to Notepad? no argument there...)
[05:02] <Flosoft> but when I want to add a printer connected to USB, what URI do I need to put in?
[05:02] <aaroncampbell> What do you guys use for downloading from SVN repositories?
[05:02] <sparrw> amik: i meant textpad.  what do you miss?
[05:02] <sparrw> Flosoft: hmm...  is it not being detected?
[05:02] <Flosoft> well no :S
[05:02] <Jucato> !away > Freejack_CSI
[05:03] <Flosoft> how can I check?
[05:03] <sparrw> amik: ridiculously undocumented and incorrect regex implementation is something i definitely dont miss from textpad
[05:03] <amik> sparrw: macros, marking lines in a search and then copying/deleting just those, and other stuff
[05:04] <amik> sparrw: I used regexes regularly there too - never had much of a problem
[05:04] <sparrw> you may want to consider kdevelop
[05:04] <Jucato> sparrw: this not enough documentation? http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/kate/regular-expressions.html
[05:04] <sparrw> even for non-programming stuff, its a much more robust editor
[05:04] <amik> sparrw: so my 'quick' workaround is the kate textfilter plugin and learning awk from scratch...
[05:05] <Jucato> (funny thing is, KDevelop is actually just using Kate)
[05:05] <sparrw> no
[05:05] <NiceGuyUK> dromer: I'm close to a solution....
[05:05] <sparrw> kdevelop is NOT "using kate"
[05:05] <amik> sparrw: I find learning tools a good experience generally. but when I'm in a rush, learning new cli tools just takes a bit too long...
[05:05] <Flosoft> !printers
[05:05] <sparrw> they both use the kde editor element
[05:05] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[05:05] <Jucato> sparrw: it uses katepart
[05:05] <sparrw> just like kedit
[05:06] <Jucato> no
[05:06] <Jucato> kedit is very far from it all
[05:06] <sparrw> and what is katepart based on?
[05:06] <Jucato> kate/kwrite/katepart
[05:06] <sparrw> thats like saying kate uses konsole
[05:06] <Jucato> katepart isn't based on anything
[05:06] <Jucato> it's in kdelibs
[05:07] <Jucato> no, I'm saying that KDevelop, just like Quanta, is using the katepart in kdelibs, which is basically kate's, for the text editing/writing functions
[05:07] <sparrw> as to documentation...  thats actually news to me.  im glad they finally admitted that their implementation isnt compatible with anyone elses, although i had figured that out already
[05:07] <dromer> NiceGuyUK: wow thnx!
[05:08] <Flosoft> anyone able to help me detect my printer?
[05:08] <Flosoft> and install it?
[05:08] <amik> sparrw: oh yes, a few wierd backslashes here and there... but the docs iirc were full and consistent - I always ended up being able to do what I aimed to do
[05:09] <amik> btw I'm a noob but I do recall seeing somewhere that kwrite and kate use the same backend (so I just stuck with kate anyway)
[05:10] <Jucato> http://kate-editor.org/katepart
[05:10] <Jucato> amik: yes they do
[05:10] <Jucato> KDevelop, Quanta, KWrite, Kate
[05:11] <amik> anyway, for my particular daily tasks, textpad offers much more functionality. I know I can get more using classic command line tools and scripts, but it would be darn nice having them as a toolbar button in Kate.
[05:11] <Flosoft> what is the URI I need to enter for the USB printer?
[05:14] <amik> oh and another thing (maybe possible but I didn't figure it out yet) - in textpad was possible to save settings per document types
[05:15] <amik> e.g. for python files save tabs as spaces, but not for other files
[05:15] <amik> hehe... I said 'was possible'... I guess I'm already leaning more on the Kubuntu side than on Windows :-))
[05:18] <icecruncher> what do you type into the comandline to remove a broken program?
[05:18] <NiceGuyUK> icecruncher: kill
[05:18] <NiceGuyUK> !kill
[05:18] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[05:19] <icecruncher> i mena unistall
[05:19] <icecruncher> *uninstall
[05:19] <NiceGuyUK> icecruncher: how was it installed?
[05:19] <icecruncher> via terminal
[05:19] <icecruncher> but interrupted
[05:19] <NiceGuyUK> icecruncher: was it from source, from the repositories or from some other method?
[05:20] <icecruncher> NiceGuyUK: deb file
[05:20] <Jucato> icecruncher: the installation was interrupted? try "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[05:20] <icecruncher> k
[05:21] <bassgoon> well, I'd have to say, that as far as I can tell, ubuntu still isn't ready for the average user
[05:22] <bassgoon> when I went to install gaim, it asked for the install cd, and it couldn't find the cd
[05:22] <bassgoon> I had to use term to mount it in /cdrom
[05:22] <seishinbyou> you didn't get it from the net?
[05:22] <bassgoon> well...when I used add programs...it wanted the disc
[05:23] <Jucato> maybe because he didn't have his CD-ROM repository disabled
[05:23] <Jucato> just as simple as that
[05:23] <seishinbyou> probably
[05:23] <NiceGuyUK> bassgoon: sounds like a quirk of you're setup rather than a Ubuntu fault as such
[05:23] <bassgoon> well...what I'm saying is that if an average user is going to use it...it should just work
[05:24] <seishinbyou> When I did an install without my ethernet cable plugged in, the default apt/sources list only had the CDROM as the source
[05:24] <NiceGuyUK> my mother uses it - it just works :)
[05:24] <seishinbyou> that was with Dapper *I think*
[05:24] <icecruncher> is broken or not fully installed
[05:24] <icecruncher> error when trying to reconfig
[05:24] <bassgoon> I mean...I dunno why it wouldn't mount the cd right
[05:24] <bassgoon> well...it was mounted right
[05:24] <NiceGuyUK> icecruncher: sudo aptitude remove --purge <program name>
[05:24] <bassgoon> just not where it was supposed to be
[05:24] <NiceGuyUK> icecruncher: then try reinstalling
[05:25] <tough> HI All
[05:25] <bigdad1e> whats a good program to emulate windows? besides wine
[05:25] <NiceGuyUK> bigdad1e: after WINE, you're better looking at virtualization rather than emulation
[05:25] <seishinbyou> bigdad1e: qemu or vmware if you want virtualization
[05:26] <bigdad1e> no i just want to use windows active sync for my phones
[05:26] <NiceGuyUK> bigdad1e: me too, its not gonna work for some time yet
[05:26] <bigdad1e> no?
[05:26] <bigdad1e> damn
[05:26] <NiceGuyUK> bigdad1e: there are some attempts to make it work natively, depending on what version of Smartphone you have
[05:27] <bigdad1e> hp 6515
[05:27] <NiceGuyUK> bigdad1e: as in Smartphone 2003 or SmartPhone 2005 for the OS
[05:27] <bigdad1e> i need to reinstall the rom so i can unlock it but ... i donno how to do it with linux
[05:27] <Jucato> bigdad1e: there are some things that could provide you with that function. try researching on opensync and synce
[05:27] <tough> bigdadle - there is an excellent virtual box I've used named VirtualBox - it works great and is free.
[05:28] <bigdad1e> ive tried all the sync programs for linux and could never get even one to work with my old nokia
[05:28] <Jucato> the thing is... in virtualization... the virtual OS will only be able to use hardware that is properly detected by the host OS (Linux)
[05:29] <tough> hmmm that's something i didn't know
[05:29] <NiceGuyUK> seishinbyou: it is USB, but newer windows Smartphones are detected as some kind of network device
[05:29] <bigdad1e> this is killing me
[05:30] <seishinbyou> That's kind of odd/neat.  I'll make a note to study that
[05:31] <rbrunhuber> maybe a complete dumb question: how do i grep for "---"
[05:31] <Jucato> I was able to browse my old windows smartphone using SynCE before..
[05:31] <bigdad1e> this is a newer phone and i need to install a updated rom on it
[05:32] <mo0osah> !vmware
[05:32] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. For VMWare Server, instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers
[05:32] <seishinbyou> meh, it is half past midnight.  Time for bed.  Happy (K)ubuntuing
[05:32] <pag> rbrunhuber, try grep \---  or grep "---"
[05:32] <Jucato> whoa
[05:32] <Jucato> seishinbyou: what country?
[05:32] <seishinbyou> JP
[05:32] <Jucato> lol should have guessed :)
[05:32] <Jucato> +1 hour away
[05:32] <Jucato> oyasumi nasai!
[05:32] <seishinbyou> $B$*$d$9$_!A(B
[05:32] <rbrunhuber> pag: neither of them work
[05:33] <bigdad1e> well thanks im gonna go dig a hole nd put my head in it.. take care
[05:33] <stdin> rbrunhuber: grep "\---" or grep -- ---
[05:34] <stdin> or even grep \\---
[05:34] <rbrunhuber> stdin: thanks worked.
[05:34] <rbrunhuber> stdin: are you good with cron?
[05:35] <stdin> rbrunhuber: I just use kcron
[05:35] <amik> if anyone cares, I found how to set per-document-type settings in kate - lookup "kate variables"
[05:35] <stdin> Jucato: you could just /whois me
[05:35] <Jucato> stdin: yeah, but that wouldn't say that I'm subscribed to the ML, right? :D
[05:36] <stdin> heh, guess not :p
[05:36] <rbrunhuber> if i put a script with x bit in /etc/cron.hourly should this be executed then? how can i test this? how can i write to the syslog?
[05:37] <icecruncher> how can you find a folder or file and delete it in one command combo like locate file > rm -fr file?
[05:38] <stdin> rbrunhuber: yeah, if it's in the directory
[05:38] <stdin> icecruncher: maybe with xargs
[05:38] <rbrunhuber> stdin : but how can i test/proof this?
[05:40] <stdin> rbrunhuber: like "locate file| xargs echo rm-fr"
[05:40] <stdin> that will print the command it would do
[05:40] <stdin> remove "echo" to make it actually do it
[05:41] <rbrunhuber> stdin: sorry, meant how can i test that my script gets executed by cron.hourly?
[05:43] <stdin> rbrunhuber: put a script in the directorym like: 'echo "This works" > /home/me/log' then if that makes /home/me/log then it works (replacing /home/me/ with your home dir)
[05:49] <JuJuBee> I just re-installed ubuntu 7.04.  I want to add kde now.  What is the best/preferred way?  Installing kubuntu-desktop?
[05:50] <Jucato> if you want to get the Kubuntu defaults. yep
[05:50] <Jucato> JuJuBee: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[05:52] <stdin> I'd use aptitude tho, instead of apt-get
[05:54] <cyt> Any guys tried KDE4 Alpha 1?
[05:54] <JuJuBee> Oh yea, where is the restart & shutdown option?  When I hit the power icon there is no restart or shutdown...Nor is there the option at the login screen.
[05:56] <JuJuBee> What is the diff between using aptitude vs. synaptic?
[05:58] <Jucato> JuJuBee: aptitude is a command-line app. synaptic is graphical
[05:58] <JuJuBee> Same results?
[05:58] <NiceGuyUK> dromer: you still there?
[05:58] <JuJuBee> or is synaptic gui for apt?
[05:58] <stdin> JuJuBee: synaptic is a gui for apt, yes
[05:58] <stdin> !aptitude
[05:58] <ubotu> aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT, like apt-get. However, aptitude can remember the dependencies installed with a package and remove them if you uninstall. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptitudeSurvivalGuide
[05:58] <Jucato> JuJuBee: yeah. synaptic is a gui for apt. aptitude is an alternative to apt
[05:59] <JuJuBee> I see, I will use aptitude then.
[05:59] <NiceGuyUK> JuJuBee: and adept is an alternative to synaptic :)
[05:59] <JuJuBee> I never got used to adept.
[05:59] <JuJuBee> Seemed too hard to find what I wanted...
[06:00] <Jucato> heh it's so easy :)
[06:00] <NiceGuyUK> not as easy for beginners as synaptic, but then its more powerful
[06:00] <Jucato> heh I find it easier to search in adept
[06:00] <Jucato> but the "response time" is a bit slower
[06:00] <stdin> a bit? :p
[06:00] <dromer> NiceGuyUK: yeah but I'm running out atm
[06:01] <NiceGuyUK> dromer, can you PM me with a contact email. I've fixed the deb for you
[06:01] <JuJuBee> So I guess I should install the kubuntu-desktop then ?  Some students  use kde some use gnome.  I dont want to limit either desktop env.
[06:01] <dromer> NiceGuyUK: wow, thnx !!
[06:01] <eeos> hi there. Prblem with videos from mobile phone (extension 3gp). I can play them with kaffeine, but cannot hear any sound. What is wrog with it?
[06:01] <dromer> NiceGuyUK: pm sent :)
[06:02] <dromer> NiceGuyUK: later
[06:02] <NiceGuyUK> I don't see the PM
[06:02] <lenscape> !growisofs
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about growisofs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <mo0osah> !superkaramba
[06:04] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[06:05] <JuJuBee> Is it ok to use synaptic to install simple things like a kde game or something like that or should I always use aptitude or adept?
[06:06] <Jucato> JuJuBee: use whatever you want
[06:06] <Jucato> :)
[06:06] <linenoise> growisofs is nice
[06:08] <balaji> hi friends
[06:08] <balaji> i have a doubt to clarify
[06:08] <balaji> is it possible to upgrade from kubuntu edgy to ubuntu feisty?
[06:09] <stdin> yes
[06:09] <linenoise> yes
[06:09] <stdin> !upgrade
[06:09] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[06:09] <balaji> i have the installation live CD for fiesty
[06:09] <JuJuBee> Any idea where my restart/shutdown options went off to?
[06:09] <linenoise> dangit.... stdin is too fast
 but i have kubuntu edgy and ubuntu fiesty
[06:10] <balaji> pls help
[06:10] <stdin> balaji: you don't need the CD
[06:10] <balaji> but my net is slow
[06:10] <stdin> balaji: just install "ubuntu-desktop" after you upgrade to install ubuntu
[06:10] <balaji> how?
[06:11] <stdin> balaji: just install the "ubuntu-desktop" package from Adept/Synaptic/apt-get/aptitude
[06:11] <chakie> has anyone noticed that a feisty on a system with an nvidia card is an order of magnitude slower graphically than edgy ever was? it's painfully slow. the nvidia-new driver is in use along with a stock kernel
[06:11] <balaji> that is after the upgrade or before?
[06:12] <Jucato> balaji:  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/gnome
[06:12] <stdin> balaji: either, but if you do it before the upgrade then it will have to be downloaded twice, so I'd install it after
[06:12] <esunder> is there any way to change my account settings or something so that i can stop typing sudo
[06:13] <esunder> i realize its for my own safety, but i think i know my way around enough to not f-up my install :D
[06:13] <stdin> esunder: if you want a root shell, type: sudo -i
[06:13] <balaji> but i tried upgrading using gksu "sh /cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[06:13] <balaji> but i got some protocol errors and also GTk errors
[06:13] <esunder> i dont want a root shell, i want to stop having to type sudo all the time
[06:14] <esunder> i want to be root
[06:14] <stdin> esunder: you will be root in a root shell
[06:14] <_4strO> is there a way to recovery data deleted by a rm command ?
[06:14] <esunder> i realize that, but cant i just be root everytime i open a shell, regardless
[06:14] <stdin> nope
[06:14] <stdin> not really
[06:14] <stdin> not on a ext2/3 fs anyway
 how to upgrade using a CDROm
[06:15] <balaji> ?
[06:15] <NiceGuyUK> hope dromer got my message, time to go
[06:15] <chakie> i can't be the only one with a nvidia card?
[06:16] <chakie> when using 1920x1200 you have plenty of time to see the individual pixels get redrawn
[06:17] <esunder> chakie: ATI here ;)
[06:17] <_4strO> stdin: and if it's a FAT32 partition, how can I recovery the data ?
[06:18] <chakie> esunder: heh, i guess nobdy uses nvidia anymore
[06:18] <esunder> chakie: im surprised, supposedly nvidia supports beryl, etc better
[06:19] <chakie> esunder: well, with the crawling speed i see on my desktop the last thing i want is more effects to make it even slower
[06:19] <esunder> chakie: ive got my ATI with dual monitors/ 2560x1024 resolution and beryl running though
[06:19] <balaji> is it possible to save data and upgrade frm Kubuntu edgy to ubuntu Fiesty?
[06:19] <esunder> mine seemed slow too until i installed beryl actually
[06:19] <chakie> esunder: yum :)
[06:19] <chakie> edgy was much, much more snappy, so it's something that's fubar:ed when i updated to feisty
[06:19] <esunder> i think the XGL actually helps because my vid card is doing the graphical processing now
[06:19] <stdin> _4strO: don't know, you'll have to google it
[06:20] <esunder> chakie: if you have time you might want to try it, it did take me 2 whole days to get it working tho :(
[06:20] <_4strO> stdin: ok thx
[06:21] <chakie> esunder: i can't afford any new hw at the moment though
[06:21] <DJServers> hi all
[06:21] <DJServers> i almost lost my linux
[06:21] <esunder> chakie: im saying try beryl on your nvidia, what card do you have?
[06:21] <chakie> i'm actually contemplating moving back to edgy, this is so fscking slow it's not useful
[06:22] <chakie> esunder: a 6600, i think. and it was fast on edgy
[06:22] <esunder> chakie: wow, that should be plenty fast, how much ram/cpu power you got?
[06:22] <chakie> my working style depends heavily on switching virtual desktops for docs etc, and a 1s repaint each time isn't really normal
[06:22] <eeos> hi there. Problem with videos from mobile phone (extension 3gp). I can play them with kaffeine, but cannot hear any sound. What is wrong with it?
[06:23] <chakie> esunder: 1g, 2400+
[06:23] <chakie> esunder: so it's not that the hw should really be this slow, something has broken, but i can't find anything in wikis or bug lists
[06:23] <esunder> chakie: you should be fine, i dont know how to trouble shoot your situation but i would expect your system to handle it
[06:24] <chakie> esunder: yup, it's annoying though
[06:25] <DJServers> !baddivice
[06:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about baddivice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <DJServers> o lol
[06:26] <DJServers> !BadDevice
[06:26] <ubotu> If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[06:27] <stdin> eeos: http://www.thisismobility.com/blog/?p=156
[06:28] <DJServers> ehm... what is the command in the console to open xorg.conf?? and changing it? i forgot is
[06:30] <pag> DJServers, sudo <editor> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:31] <eeos> stdin: thanks!!!!
[06:32] <DJServers> pag that not the one i mean
[06:33] <DJServers> there is some command dont whit sudo but whit some other then you log in as root
[06:33] <pag> DJServers, hmm... sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ?
[06:33] <eXistenz> Hello, is it recommended to upgrade to feisty?
[06:34] <stdin> eXistenz: sure, it's the newest version
[06:34] <eXistenz> stdin: to upgrade or install afresh?
[06:35] <stdin> eXistenz: upgrade, unless you want a fresh install that  is
[06:35] <stdin> !upgrade
[06:35] <ubotu> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft) to Kubuntu 7.04 (Feisty Fawn)
[06:35] <DJServers> !2screens
[06:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 2screens - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <stdin> !dualhead
[06:36] <ubotu> Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama
[06:36] <DJServers> !games
[06:36] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[06:40] <DJServers> !xampp
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xampp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <DJServers> some one nows xampp here?
[06:40] <DJServers> !mtaserver
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mtaserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:42] <DJServers> !BadDivice
[06:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about baddivice - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:44] <Jucato> !baddevice | DJServers
[06:44] <ubotu> DJServers: If you are receiving an error similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", it can be safely ignored. If you want to get rid of the error messages then please visit this page: http://seerofsouls.com/wiki/How-Tos/BadDeviceErrors
[06:45] <JuJuBee> How do I restart my compuer if there is no restart button when I click the power button on the screen?  I cannot shutdown or restart.
[06:45] <Jucato> JuJuBee: log off first.
[06:45] <JuJuBee> There is no restart or shutdown option at the login screen.
[06:46] <JuJuBee> Shuld I just hit the power button on the box?
[06:46] <DJServers> lol
[06:46] <Jucato> JuJuBee: there should be. there's a menu in the login screen right?
[06:46] <Jucato> I'm not familiar with GDM (the login manager for GNOME)
[06:47] <JuJuBee> Yes, but no shutdown or restart... There used to be...
[06:47] <JuJuBee> Should I switch to kdm after installing kubuntu-desktop?
[06:48] <xxx_> zdar nejaky cech?
[06:48] <Jucato> !cz | xxx_
[06:48] <ubotu> xxx_: esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[06:48] <Jucato> JuJuBee: if you want to be able to shutdown/restart from KDE. but you won't be able to shutdown/restart from GNOME I think
[06:49] <DJServers> !nl | DJServers
[06:49] <JuJuBee> What is causing this?
[06:49] <eeos> stdin: well, actually it does not solve my problem. Do not want to convert only to play the videos :(
[06:49] <mo0osah> !ftp
[06:49] <ubotu> FTP clients: !Nautilus, !gFTP (for !GNOME) - !Konqueror, !Kasablanca, !KFTPGrabber (for !KDE) - See also !FTPd
[06:49] <xxx_> a tam se dostanu jak?
[06:49] <mo0osah> !ftp server
[06:49] <ubotu> FTP servers: !ftpd, !proftpd, !pure-ftpd, !twoftpd, !vsftpd, !MuddleFTPd, !wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: !PureAdmin, !GProftpd (for !GNOME), !KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP
[06:49] <Jucato> xxx_: English only please
[06:49] <DJServers> !webhosting
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about webhosting - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:50] <xxx_> HOw i can jion czech canal????
 xxx_: ?esk u?ivatele ?dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. ?esky je mo?no se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. D?kujeme.
[06:50] <Jucato> xxx_: just click on the channel name
[06:51] <Cosmo__> someone had suggested sphinx to me as a speech to text replacement for dragon naturally speaking for dictation, anyone know much about it?
[06:51] <JuJuBee> Jucato : is there some reason I cannot restart/shutdwon from GNOME anymore?  Is this normal?
[06:52] <Jucato> JuJuBee: not really sure. but if you use KDM to start a GNOME session, you can only logout. if you use GDM to start a KDE session, same thing. But I thought they fixed that already
[06:53] <eeos> is there any good reason why ffmpeg is compiled without xvid support on kubuntu???? ($%$&$&$&!!!!)
[06:53] <JuJuBee> I haven't started a KDE session yet.  Still only have GNOME installed.  kubuntu-desktop is installing now...
[06:54] <DJServers> how to unpack a .tar.gz whit console?
[06:55] <DJServers> !.ta.gz
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ta.gz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <JuJuBee> DJServers : tar -xzf {filename}
[06:55] <DJServers> o ok
[06:55] <JuJuBee> without brackets...
[06:55] <DJServers> i now
[06:56] <Jucato> DJServers: use Ark?
[06:56] <DJServers> do i have to typ it like this? /home/frank/filename ??
[06:57] <ober0ne> hey, anyone have problems with USB mice in feisty?
[06:57] <eeos> !xvid
[06:57] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:57] <mo0osah> anywhere I can get information on the ftp servers?
[06:57] <mo0osah> in terms of freedom, ease of use, security...
[06:58] <ober0ne> my mouse stops responding at random, and I have to restart my compy to get it working again
[07:00] <DJServers> my sound is so butiful whit linux its very difrend then windows
[07:00] <ober0ne> any ideas?
[07:00] <DJServers> dont now
[07:03] <ober0ne> !mouse
[07:03] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[07:07] <DJServers> each  file i try to start whit console it says: cant find the file
[07:08] <DJServers> am i doning something wrong or?
[07:10] <eeos> !eclipse
[07:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eclipse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:10] <ubuntu> hi, how can i install firefox in kubuntu 7.04?
[07:11] <ubuntu> eeos: what is your problem with eclipse?
[07:11] <anno_> easy
[07:12] <anno_> with  adapt remuve
[07:12] <stdin> ubuntu: either with Add/Remove Programs, Adept, or by doing "sudo apt-get install firefox" in konsole
[07:12] <vmuser> hi...i just installed kubuntu for the first time ever....i remember that i had to create a user account and its password...but what about the root account? what about that password?
[07:12] <stdin> !sudo | vmuser
[07:12] <ubotu> vmuser: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:12] <stdin> vmuser: you use _your_ password
[07:13] <vmuser> right....but what about when i  have to install something.... su
[07:13] <vmuser> whats that pass?
[07:13] <stdin> vmuser: you don't use su, use sudo
[07:13] <vmuser> it should not be the same as my user's
[07:13] <stdin> vmuser: sudo command
[07:13] <vmuser> right
[07:15] <vmuser> but cant u get root running su ? thats the problem..i want to be root ... but i have never given a password for that account when i installed kubuntu
[07:15] <stdin> vmuser: if you want a root shell, then do "sudo -i"
[07:15] <stdin> vmuser: you don't need a root password, it's more secure _not_ having one
[07:16] <jughead> How do you change the default application for items that are not listed under system settings?  System settings lists things like e-mail client and web browser, but not things like .mp3s or .wmv's.  I'd like VLC to open pretty much all of my media files.
[07:16] <stdin> jughead: in konqueror settings
[07:17] <jughead> ahh thanks stdin that makes sense
[07:20] <Sanne> jughead: you can also try to find things in kcontrol, the default kde control center, if you don't mind wading through multitude of config options ;)
[07:22] <defcon> sup
[07:23] <defcon> how do I make a menu item in kde menu editor for a terminal app to stay open
[07:23] <ubuntu_> defcon: don't end the program from what I know
[07:23] <defcon> it is ending it
[07:24] <defcon> it opens it and closes it
[07:24] <ubuntu_> Yeah I know :)
[07:24] <defcon> all cmd line apps, is there a argument to add
[07:24] <defcon> how do I keep it from closing
[07:24] <defcon> so I can input cmds
[07:24] <ubuntu_> What command is it?
[07:27] <defcon> any command
[07:28] <defcon> ive tried --noclose
[07:28] <defcon> doesnt workl
[07:29] <balaji> hi friends i have a fiesty fawn CD with me but i want to install this on a USB harddrive
[07:29] <balaji> how to do this can somebody give me all the steps
[07:29] <balaji> by the way USB harddrive has a space of 80 gb
[07:30] <balaji> ??
[07:31] <bch> try google
[07:32] <balaji> can anybody provide a opinion on my qn?
[07:33] <eeos> thanks everybody, have a nice evening!
[07:33] <genii> balaji I arrived afterwards. What was your question?
[07:33] <balaji> i have a fiesty fawn CD
[07:34] <balaji> how to install this on a USB harddrive with 80GB space how to do this?
[07:34] <arkanabar> I installed KDE and made it my default desktop.  Now I don't have the "Options" menu on my login screen that used to let me choose what kind of session I want ... how do I get it back?
[07:34] <mo0osah> is it easy to install vnc? is it graphical?
[07:35] <genii> balaji The installer should see the drive as a SCSI device eg: /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or so on. You should be able to install to that without an issue.
 yes u can install VNC from www.realvnc.com
[07:36] <balaji> my harddrive (USb) is not formatted as NTFS or FAt?
[07:36] <genii> balaji The installer will put the ext3 filesystem usually.
[07:36] <balaji> and how to boot from this drive?
[07:37] <guillermo> i've got a quiestion
[07:37] <guillermo> how does kubuntu, or linux in general trate virus?
[07:37] <genii> balaji You may want to make sure you have a recent bios which allows to look to usb devices for booting. If it does not you will need to put the boot manager (grub) onto floppy or the first regular hard drive
[07:37] <guillermo> is tehre any presintalled antivirus? or how does it work?
[07:37] <defcon> How do I keep my apps open and switch from kde to gnome
[07:37] <zzsputnik> !foo2zjs
[07:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about foo2zjs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <balaji> is this possible with a live cd install?
[07:38] <zzsputnik> i cannot install foo2zjs to my kubuntu 6.0.6
[07:38] <zzsputnik> 6.06
[07:39] <genii> balaji Yes, the livecd is also the installer cd. There is a shortcut on the desktop which does an install
 can u provide me with a documentation?
[07:40] <genii> balaji For installation to usb drive?
[07:40] <balaji> yes
[07:40] <ubuntu_> balaji: You can install it to your USB drive :)
[07:40] <ubuntu_> balaji: never used lInux before I'll guess?
[07:41] <ubuntu_> !virus
[07:41] <balaji> i use linux only but started very recently
[07:41] <ubotu> A/V software is available, however read this to understand why Linux does not have a virus problem: http://librenix.com/?inode=21
[07:41] <genii> balaji There is no special method. You just do a normal install but put the files to the device it sees which is the usb drive. Normally this will be /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or so on
[07:41] <ubuntu_> defcon: You can have gnome on a different terminal
[07:41] <balaji> ok thank you
[07:42] <genii> balaji You are welcome
[07:42] <ubuntu_> !antivirus | guillermo
[07:42] <ubotu> guillermo: antivirus is something you don't really need on Linux, unless you serve windows clients. ClamAV and aegis are decent linux virusscanners. Also see !linuxvirus
[07:42] <balaji> oh yes i want toa ask u one more thing
[07:43] <balaji> is it possible to upgrade from Kubuntu 6.10 to ubuntu 7.04
[07:43] <genii> clamav/klamav frontend works fine but you need to make sure the freshclam part gets in first or it spits out errors
[07:43] <balaji> i have the CD for ubuntu thts why
[07:44] <genii> balaji Yes, there is a page for upgrading from 6.10 to 7.04 Would you like me to give you the link?
[07:44] <balaji> i have tried out various links but my problem is peculiar u see
[07:44] <balaji> kubuntu-ubuntu using CD?
[07:44] <balaji> and that too upgrade
[07:45] <genii> balaji Here is the standard ubuntu information page for upgrading: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading
[07:45] <JuJuBee> I got kubuntu-desktop finally installed.  When I log into my account (gnome for the moment) and try to run users and groups, I cannot. GDM not running.  I switched to KDE and in kcontrol opend user management and when I hit administrator mode, I get an error. tells me that the module failed to load.  problem due to an error during the last upgrade.
[07:45] <JuJuBee> or old 3rd party drivers lying around.
[07:47] <genii> balaji It does not matter if you have the ubuntu (gnome version) or the kubuntu (KDE version) of ubuntu. You can install either from either cd install. For kubuntu from a gnome install you put:   sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop    and the reverse method for gnome install from a kubuntu cd
[07:47] <ubuntu_> JuJuBee: can You do users on the command line?
[07:48] <JuJuBee> never tried.
[07:48] <ubuntu_> genii: I think he was asking about upgrading
[07:48] <ubuntu_> I don't think that you can upgrade from either CD
[07:48] <balaji> yeah
[07:48] <anno_> hi guys i have a qwastion whou can i install wine on kubuntu?
[07:48] <ubuntu_> Well yeah technically you can but you have to download a slew of things after
[07:48] <ubuntu_> !wine
[07:48] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[07:48] <anno_> thx
[07:48] <genii> balaji Ah, OK. No, you cannot upgrade from the cdrom
[07:49] <ubuntu> genii: yes you can
[07:49] <genii> (unfortunately)
[07:49] <ubuntu> just no the Live Cd
[07:49] <ubuntu> not
[07:49] <JuJuBee> ubuntu_ : how do I manage users from command line?
[07:49] <genii> So Alternate then?
[07:49] <ubuntu> JuJuBee: how do you mean manage
[07:49] <balaji> wht is the alternate CD? its specified in the site
[07:50] <xxx_> Hi everbody
[07:50] <cox377_> does anyone know whree the php binary is kept
[07:50] <JuJuBee> If I want to add/remove/modify/change group memebership etc...
[07:50] <ubuntu> groupmod will modify/change
[07:50] <cox377_> i've checked / /usr/bin/php
[07:50] <genii> balaji The alternate cd is for putting the server version for instance, or a command-line only version, or for problemmatic machines which do not like the regular cd
[07:50] <ubuntu> groupdel will remove
[07:50] <cox377_> anyone?
[07:50] <ubuntu> groupadd does something but I forget what
[07:50] <genii> server version default install is command-line only by the way
[07:51] <ubuntu> cox377_: the php binary?
[07:51] <Sanne> cox377: default php install is as an apache module, so no binary, as far as I remember
[07:51] <balaji> ok thanks a lot for the info
[07:51] <cox377_> ubuntu: yeh i'm trying to set uo torrentflux and it states i must specify the path
[07:51] <balaji> do u have a registration with the ubuntu site?
[07:51] <cox377_> Path : php
[07:51] <cox377_> Specify the path to the php binary (/usr/bin/php):
[07:51] <JuJuBee> ubuntu_ : still, something is wrong if i cannot run the gui version, isn't it?
[07:51] <balaji> so that i can add u as a friend there?
[07:52] <genii> balaji: Yes, I am there with the same name as here
[07:52] <balaji> ok thnx
[07:53] <cox377_> anyone?
[07:53] <JuJuBee> This was a brand new install this morning.  How can it be broken already?
[07:54] <ubuntu> JuJuBee: Yep
[07:54] <ubuntu> JuJuBee: I'm going to look at that in a second
[07:54] <ubuntu> Just thought you needed to do something in a hurry
[07:55] <JuJuBee> ubuntu : thanks.  I got time...
[07:55] <ubuntu> JuJuBee: you should probably try apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:55] <ubuntu> Should grab all missing libs etc
[07:55] <JuJuBee> I did aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[07:55] <JuJuBee> to get it originally
[07:56] <JuJuBee> Should I still do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[07:57] <azzco> Where should I go if I need help with tv-out/xorg config?
[08:02] <guillermo> anyone knows how to make amarok play stramingfiles
[08:02] <guillermo> like radio
[08:02] <anno_> hi i need help whyle instaling wine i gat the maseg (destroy/instal than some problems whyle downloading)
[08:03] <ubuntu> JuJuBee: can't hurt
[08:03] <ubuntu> azzco: Here I guess
[08:03] <boss>      .?
[08:03] <boss> hi
[08:03] <ubuntu> guillermo: click on the file
[08:03] <ubuntu>  !ru
[08:03] <ubotu>    #ubuntu-ru       /  Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke
[08:04] <anno_> ^_^
[08:04] <JuJuBee> ubuntu : did already, nothing to update.  Still problem with user management module...
[08:04] <tomg> hi all! anyone know of a sims 2 like game for linux?
[08:04] <anno_> hi i need help whyle instaling wine i gat the maseg (destroy/instal than some problems whyle downloading)
[08:04] <ubuntu> tomg: Sims2 :)
[08:04] <ubuntu> anno_: pastebin the error message
[08:04] <tomg> ubuntu: no go under wine
[08:04] <ubuntu> !paste | anno_
[08:04] <ubotu> anno_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:05] <ubuntu> tomg: Hmm. can't think of any off the top of my head
[08:05] <tomg> ubuntu: you could rack some votes up for it in the appdb if you wouldnt mind ;)
[08:05] <ubuntu> JuJuBee: What
[08:05] <ubuntu> 's the error the module gives you?
[08:05] <ubuntu> tomg: Don't lookit me :) join #winehq or #cedega :)
[08:06] <ubuntu> #cedega will be more sympathetic :)
[08:06] <tomg> yea but they want money lol
[08:06] <JuJuBee> Module could not load "error during last kde upgrade leaving orphaned control module" or "you have an old 3rd party module lying around"
[08:07] <tomg> so if anyone wants to vote sims2 at appdb.winehq.org..... it would be appreciated ;)
[08:07] <gnomefreak> tomg: please leave offtopic topics in #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:07] <routh> I need a hand from someone - I installed feisty, upgraded pmount, and installed ntfs-3g - but I can't access a USB hard drive I have - I get this error: hal-storage-removable-mount-all-options refused uid 1000
[08:09] <azzco> I'd like to clone my CRT to my TV, I only get Twinview ATM, Could someone lend a hand?
[08:10] <genii> routh Put in the /etc/fstab the option   user
[08:11] <routh> genii: the drive isn't in fstab as it's a removable USB drive
[08:12] <genii> routh Most likely it IS there, with a UUID number to ensure the proper device gets mounted
[08:13] <mc3> salve  a tutti
[08:13] <routh> genii: nope - not there - I would see /dev/sda1 somewhere - there are no sda drives?
[08:13] <JuJuBee> ubuntu : any ideas?
[08:14] <logixoul> Hi. How do I get the desktop-switching menu in the center of the screen?
[08:14] <Nicky> There should be two hardrives in my machine but I can only see one, how can I check if there are two?
[08:14] <genii> routh 1 moment I'll try to find where the hald stuff is
[08:14] <routh> genii: k
[08:15] <logixoul> Nicky: where did you see just one hdd?
[08:15] <Nicky> when I clicked on the home folder
[08:16] <Nicky> I have been told that I need to move my pictures from one disk to the other one, I just don't know how
[08:17] <ubuntu> JuJuBee: try apt-get purge kcontrol and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:17] <logixoul> Nicky: you can't see hard disks in your home folder. Try opening media:/
[08:17] <JuJuBee> K
[08:17] <Nicky> logixol, there I can see cdrom0, cdrom1, floppy0 and hdb1
[08:18] <JuJuBee> Invalig Operation purge
[08:18] <JuJuBee> *invalid
[08:19] <defcon> anyone try to run konversation in gnome
[08:19] <Nicky> The guy I bought the computer from said that there was two disks and that they were partioned or something like that
[08:19] <defcon> im having a problem where the server list wont close
[08:19] <defcon> in gnome
[08:20] <genii> routh Please tell what directories/files are in /etc/hal/  (use pastebin if large)
[08:21] <Nicky> I really would need to get my pictures ready so that I can print them, I have a shoot tomorrow morning and need to bring them with me..
[08:22] <Nicky> [505]  Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems
[08:24] <phoenixbyrd> Have you tried looking in hdb1?
[08:24] <Nicky> yes, the pictures I need is not there, they are on the other drive, my old one
[08:24] <phoenixbyrd> ah
[08:25] <logixoul> Nicky: what in your /dev/ dir begins with hd or sd?
[08:25] <phoenixbyrd> did you open the case and actually check if there are two?
[08:25] <Nicky> The guy I bought the machine from said that he put in my old disk in the machine but I cannot find any of the photos or documents now
[08:25] <Nicky> haha..I dont know how to open the machine
[08:25] <phoenixbyrd> o.0
[08:25] <phoenixbyrd> that should be common sense and a screwdriver
[08:26] <Nicky> there is nothing in the /dev that has hd or sd
[08:26] <r3> helo ... i have aborted one download by apt-get .. . since then , if i want to use it, it always wants to continue the old download first
[08:26] <r3> how do i cancel it
[08:26] <r3> ?
[08:26] <r3> pls
[08:26] <sercik> hi!
[08:26] <Nicky> Oops, sorry, there are things there
[08:26] <sercik> someone know hot to change permission of proc/bus/usb at every startup??
[08:27] <Nicky> hda, hda1, hda2, hda3, hda5, hdb, hdb1, hdb2, hdb5, hdc, hdd but most of them have a hanglock on them
[08:28] <phoenixbyrd> sudo konqueror ... idk
[08:29] <ubuntu> JuJuBee: sorry apt-get remove kcontrol --purge
[08:29] <Nicky> Now I almost broke a nail when I tried to open the machine
[08:29] <Nicky> Is there anyway to get my pictures without removing the disk?
[08:30] <ubuntu> Nicky: Mount the drives
[08:30] <Nicky> Now you are talking greek my friend
[08:30] <r3> helooo
[08:31] <ubuntu> Nicky: type mount on the command line and then pastebin it
[08:31] <ubuntu> !paste | Nicky
[08:31] <ubotu> Nicky: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[08:31] <ubuntu> r3: Hello
[08:31] <mo0osah> how do you make konversation your default irc client
[08:32] <ubuntu> !defaults
[08:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about defaults - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:32] <Nicky> that was easy
[08:32] <ubuntu> !default
[08:32] <ubotu> To change the default application for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties -> Open With, and then change the setting. In Kubuntu, Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure and then hit "File Associations"
[08:32] <venik> has anyone else gotten the error message: operapluginwrapper has failed  ?
[08:32] <ubuntu> Nicky: what was?
[08:32] <Nicky> this is the one I got from them http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21168/
[08:33] <venik> It has to do with the Flsh player plugin for Opera 9.2
[08:33] <Nicky> ubuntu, I can tell you that I did not understand one single word of what it did say though
[08:34] <r3> helo ... i have aborted one download by apt-get .. . since then , if i want to use it, it always wants to continue the old download first
[08:34] <azzco> I really need some help with cloned output..
[08:34] <r3> howto cancel pls ?
[08:34] <Nicky> r3, you can turn off the machine, that is what I would do
[08:34] <r3> ???????? how would this solve my problem ?
[08:34] <azzco> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21165/ How do I give the two monitors the same image?
[08:34] <mo0osah> ubuntu: there aren't any protocols
[08:35] <mo0osah> ubuntu: i want to make konversation default app for irc protocol
[08:35] <ubuntu> Nicky: What's in /media/hdb1 ?
[08:35] <ubuntu> Not your files ?
[08:35] <Nicky> Do I have to pay for this support or how does it work?
[08:35] <ubuntu> mo0osah: Umm not sure
[08:36] <ubuntu> Nicky: Nope it's free
[08:36] <Nicky> ubuntu, that is nice
[08:36] <Nicky> There are files in that folder but not the ones I would need
[08:37] <Nicky> There is Launch Google Earth.lnk, ntldr, ntdetect, QuickTime Player.exe and a lot of other files
[08:37] <ubuntu> ok
[08:38] <aleksanteri> how can i remove a package installed with # make install?
[08:38] <ubuntu> Nicky: type sudo umount /mnt/hdb1
[08:38] <ubuntu> Nicky: there should be nothing in that folder after you type that
[08:38] <ubuntu> aleksanteri: make uninstall
[08:38] <aleksanteri> ok
[08:38] <Nicky> The pictures I have got from the agency is taken with some digital camera and there are videos of me as well
[08:38] <aleksanteri> where i do this?
[08:39] <ubuntu> aleksanteri: In the same folder you did make install
[08:39] <ubuntu> Nicky: The files are gone ?
[08:39] <azzco> Seriusly how do I get dual monitors with the same image?
[08:39] <aleksanteri> geez... already removed that folder :|
[08:39] <genii> aleksanteri: Actually the best way is to:  make dist-clean   or make dist
[08:39] <genii> (this clears any remnants of it out)
[08:40] <ubuntu> azzco: Xinerama I think
[08:40] <azzco> I mean cloned
[08:40] <aleksanteri> genii: already said that i had removed the folder
[08:40] <ubuntu> Nicky: after you did the sudo umount command type in the terminal
[08:40] <azzco> I have my TV like 2 meters from the CRT, so cloning is the only thing I'd want
[08:40] <Nicky> ubuntu, I gave this guy my old computer when I bought a new one, he said that he had moved the whole disk in to the new machine
[08:40] <ubuntu> sudo mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/hdb1 -o umask=0022
[08:41] <Nicky> he said that I have two disks but I don't know
[08:41] <ubuntu> Nicky: I know I'm mounting the drives for you
[08:41] <ubuntu> Nicky: You do
[08:41] <Nicky> it is asking for a password
[08:41] <Nicky> do I write the password he gave me?
[08:41] <ubuntu> that;s your password
[08:41] <ubuntu> that you used to login
[08:42] <Nicky> it said not found
[08:42] <Nicky> it said /hdb1 not found
[08:42] <genii> aleksanteri: You can re get the original tarball or whatever you used before, then put it like last time. Then do the make dist-clean then remove the folder again
[08:42] <genii> aleksanteri: Otherwise it's a case of trying to track all the stuff it put in whatever dir
[08:43] <aleksanteri> geez feared that
[08:43] <Nicky> A stupid question, but are there many girls asking stupid questions like this in here?
[08:44] <ubuntu> Nicky: somedays :)
[08:44] <Sanne> Nicky: it's not stupid, you're just new to this, don't worry :)
[08:44] <aleksanteri> hmm... i can't find a trace of it :/
[08:44] <ubuntu> Nicky: can you press up on the terminal and paste back what you typed here
[08:44] <ubuntu> I want to see why it
[08:44] <ubuntu> 's asking for /hdb1
[08:44] <genii> aleksanteri: Is the thing it made still running/causing grief?
[08:45] <Nicky> umount: /mnt/hdb1: not found
[08:45] <aleksanteri> hmm kbfx is still running
[08:45] <aleksanteri> that did it :P
[08:45] <aleksanteri> thx
[08:45] <ubuntu> Nicky: hmm ok
[08:45] <ubuntu>  Nicky do a ls /dev/hdb1
[08:45] <Nicky> haha, I found a picture but it is not my pictures, someone elses
[08:45] <Sanne> ubuntu, Nicky: wan't it /media/hdb1?
[08:45] <ubuntu> wait
[08:46] <Sanne> wasn't
[08:46] <ubuntu>  /media/hdb1
[08:46] <Sanne> :)
[08:46] <genii> aleksanteri: :) Remember to do the dist-clean before removing source code dir if you want all traces gone next time
[08:46] <Nicky> Sorry, what do I write? :)
[08:46] <aleksanteri> ok :)
[08:47] <Nicky> Atleast you can't blame me for being a stupid blone, I'm a brunette :)
[08:47] <ubuntu> sudo umount /media/hdb1
[08:47] <Nicky> ubuntu, it didn't say anything this time
[08:47] <Nicky> and that folder is empty now
[08:48] <ubuntu> Nicky: good
[08:48] <ubuntu> Nicky: sudo mount /dev/hdb2 /mnt/hdb1 -o umask=0022
[08:48] <ubuntu> Nicky: sudo mount /dev/hdb2 /media/hdb1 -o umask=0022
[08:48] <ubuntu> media not Mnt :)
[08:48] <Nicky> so is that hdb1 his drive and mine is called something else?
[08:48] <aleksanteri> hmm.. brb
[08:48] <ubuntu> tell me what's in the folder now?
[08:49] <ubuntu> Nicky: I think that the hdb1 is your drive but maybe your C:
[08:49] <Nicky> It say that I have to describe the file when I typed that text
[08:49] <Nicky> like this: sudo mount /dev/hdb2 /media/hdb1 -o umask=0022
[08:50] <ubuntu> Describe?
[08:50] <ubuntu> Hmm
[08:50] <Nicky> He said something about my disk being a secondary disk or something like that
[08:50] <ubuntu> Nicky: change /dev/hdb2 to /dev/hb5
[08:50] <Nicky> second drive?
[08:51] <Nicky> Now I got some really weird text
[08:51] <ubuntu> pastebin it :)
[08:52] <Nicky> haha, I don't even understand the language
[08:52] <ubuntu> paste the output on the website I gave you earlier
[08:52] <ubuntu> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:53] <Nicky> the whole system is in finnish and I don't understand finnish, how can I get it to english? :)
[08:53] <genii> nicky hda = primary hdb = secondary   numbers after eg: hdb5 is the partition on the drive
[08:53] <Nicky> My old computer was in english
[08:54] <Nicky> that website doesn't work now
[08:54] <Nicky> sorry, now it started and this is the page, but I don't know if makes any sense to you http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21170/
[08:55] <ubuntu> Hmm
[08:56] <ubuntu> ANyone speak finnish? :)
[08:56] <Nicky> I have a CD with the kubuntu text on it but I was told that if I use that one that I will loose my pictures, so I need to print them first and then I will try to run the blue CD to get this machine in english
[08:56] <genii> ubuntu Fluently but only when I'm roaring drunk unfortunately
[08:57] <Nicky> Someone told me that you can have many languages at the same time and simply switch between them, but of course I don't understand how to switch :(
[09:00] <ubuntu> :-)
[09:00] <chakie> ubuntu: sure
[09:00] <Nicky> Look, now I found something
[09:00] <ubuntu> Nicky:  is there anything in the /media/hdb1 folder now?
[09:00] <ubuntu> chakie: You speak finnish?
[09:00] <Nicky> It says: removing finnish language support :)
[09:01] <chakie> ubuntu: yeah
[09:01] <Nicky> Now, it is empty
[09:01] <Nicky> It says: Translations and language support for finnish has been removed, but it's still in finnish though :)
[09:01] <ubuntu> chakie: can you tell me what http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21170/ says ?
[09:02] <chakie> "2 /dev/hdb5 seems to be swap space, not attached"
[09:02] <chakie> "3 you must give the file system type"
[09:03] <chakie> not attached -> not mounted
[09:05] <ubuntu> Ah
[09:05] <ubuntu> :-)
[09:05] <Nicky> Do you think that the pictures that I have is gone?
[09:05] <ubuntu> No :)
[09:06] <ubuntu> the mount command that you ran before change /dev/hdb5 to /dev/hda1
[09:06] <Nicky> Thank you, I really hope that I can find them
[09:07] <Nicky> I don't understand what that means but I am happy that you do :)
[09:09] <mo0osah> how do you get bookmarks toolbar in konquer
[09:10] <ubuntu> Nicky: are those your files in /media/hdb1 now?
[09:10] <Nicky> No, it is still empty
[09:10] <Sanne> mo0osah: under settings/toolbars
[09:12] <mo0osah> I added some bookmarks
[09:12] <mo0osah> but the toolbar doesnt show up
[09:12] <Sanne> Nicky, ubuntu: sometimes you have to press F5 in konqueror to renew directory information.
[09:13] <Nicky> It is still empty, should I restart the computer?
[09:13] <ubuntu> Nicky: type mount | grep hda1
[09:14] <Nicky> nothing happened
[09:15] <Nicky> It is quite funny, I know nothing about computers but still I can type quite fast
[09:15] <ubuntu> :-)
[09:15] <ubuntu> ok then it didn't mount
[09:15] <Nicky> If you say so :)
[09:15] <markku> hmm
[09:15] <ubuntu> Nicky: what did you type?
[09:16] <Nicky> mount | grep hda1
[09:16] <ubuntu> Nicky: sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/hdb1 -o umask=0022 ?
[09:16] <markku> what were kubuntus hardware reqs?
[09:16] <Nicky> in the black window
[09:16] <Nicky> should I type that text again? What you just wrote?
[09:16] <mrdlouisd> i lost the hdd in my laptop, so i use a live cd to rdp to my windows server until i can raise the funds to buy a new hdd, i rdped to my windows server regularly when i had a working hdd and the audio worked, it does not work since using the livecd is there an audio driver i have to install to get the sound to work?
[09:16] <routh> genii: I had to run out - did you ever find the hald stuff?
[09:17] <Nicky> I am sorry if I am bothering you, just let me know when you've had enough of me
[09:17] <genii> routh I found some stuff that may get you in the right direction
[09:17] <markku> start Kconsole. you can find it from system menu
[09:17] <Nicky> Now I got a text like this: /dev/hda1 on /media/hdb1 type ntfs (rw,umask=0022)
[09:17] <ubuntu> Nicky: naw I'm good
[09:18] <genii> routh Looks like where you put stuff like mount options for hal is in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi      or that dir anyhow
[09:18] <vaxo> hii
[09:18] <ubuntu> Nicky: whats in /media/hdb1 ?
[09:18] <Nicky> Now there are files there again, the same ones as before
[09:19] <pollyo> Hello
[09:19] <mo0osah> how do you make bookmark toolbar show up
[09:19] <Sanne> mo0osah: under settings/toolbars
[09:20] <ubuntu> the same?
[09:20] <ubuntu> What the same?
[09:21] <markku> hmm
[09:21] <markku> has anyone used xubuntu?
[09:21] <routh> genii: thanks
[09:22] <Nicky> It is still the same files as I saw before, the Google Earth launch, the ntldr file and lots of other things
[09:22] <ubuntu> really? :)
[09:22] <ubuntu> Cool
[09:22] <ubuntu> ok
[09:22] <ubuntu> sudo umount /media/hdb1
[09:22] <ubuntu> and then
[09:22] <genii> routh np. Here is a link in that area, tho not exactly what you are looking for http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=93669
[09:22] <ubuntu> Nicky: sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/hdb1 -o umask=0022 ?
[09:22] <Nicky> with the question mark on the end?
[09:22] <markku> i installed xubuntu on really old computer and somekind reason desktops taskbars and toolbars wont show up at all
[09:23] <ubuntu> nope
[09:24] <Nicky> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1,
[09:24] <Nicky>        missing codepage or other error
[09:24] <Nicky>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[09:24] <Nicky>        dmesg | tail  or so
[09:24] <genii> markku You will need at least about 128Mb of ram for it to run right
[09:24] <markku> i have
[09:25] <Nicky> Now it is in english again :)
[09:25] <genii> (or physical ram + swap space => 128)
[09:25] <markku> i think swap is atleast 390Mb
[09:25] <markku> i have 20Gb harddisk but somekind reason i failed to set up partions manually
[09:25] <markku> so i had to use guided
[09:26] <luca> hi everyone
[09:26] <Nicky> One of me girlfriends said that I should try to get my pictures from the old disk, move them to the new and then empty the old one, will that work?
[09:26] <luca> I have problem compiling kbfx 0.49.3
[09:26] <markku> hmm
[09:26] <markku> nicky that is possible
[09:27] <luca> says it cannot find kde3 headers and core library - even if I have installed the kde metapackage? O_o
[09:27] <mrdlouisd> i lost the hdd in my laptop, so i use a live cd to rdp to my windows server until i can raise the funds to buy a new hdd, i rdped to my windows server regularly when i had a working hdd and the audio worked, it does not work since using the livecd is there an audio driver i have to install to get the sound to work?
[09:27] <markku> you just have to connect old hard disk to same computer with new hard disk or upload them on internet packed as rar and load them from there
[09:27] <ubuntu> Nicky: hmm ok
[09:27] <Sanne> luca: are you compiling from source because of newer version?
[09:27] <ubuntu> Nicky: sudo mount /dev/hda5 /media/hdb1 -o umask=0022
[09:27] <Nicky> I would really need to get the pictures tonight since I need to print them and give them to the agency tomorrow morning, otherwise I might loose this shoot
[09:28] <Nicky> /dev/hda5 looks like swapspace - not mounted
[09:28] <Nicky> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[09:28] <luca> Sanne: yep wanted to give it a try - although I also posted in the forums kindly asking someone better than me to create the package ;)
[09:29] <Sanne> luca: heh :). You most likely need some *-dev package of the one it's complaining about. Let me find you the package name.
[09:29] <ubuntu> Nicky: sudo mount /dev/hda3 /media/hdb1 -o umask=0022
[09:29] <ubuntu> You have a lot pf swapspace
[09:30] <luca> Sanne: ok thanks a lot! :)
[09:30] <markku> hmm
[09:30] <Nicky> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[09:30] <markku> it says it is swap type?
[09:31] <Sanne> luca: try installing kdelibs4-dev. The description of the package looks like it's the one you need.
[09:31] <markku> well im not sure about mounting lol
[09:31] <ubuntu> Nicky: what did you have before windows or linux ?
[09:31] <markku> i even failed partioning
[09:31] <Nicky> markku, I just typed the line that ubuntu gave me and it replied: mount: you must specify a filesystem type, I don't know either :)
[09:31] <luca> Sanne: ok thx
[09:31] <Sanne> luca: you're welcome :)
[09:32] <luca> oh it also misses the dcoplib and dcoplib2cpp :$
[09:34] <Sanne> luca: try to find the name of the corresponding *-dev package for anything it complains about, either in adept/synaptic/apt-cache search, or at packages.ubuntu.com. If you don't succeed, shout :)
[09:34] <Nicky> Is this something that I can try and follow? http://www.debianadmin.com/mount-your-widows-partitions-and-make-it-readwritable-in-ubuntu.html
[09:34] <Sanne> luca: usually those are libraries that start with "lib"
[09:35] <markku> hmm
[09:35] <markku> guess my 350Mhz, 128Mb ram computer is bit too old for linux too lol
[09:35] <Nicky> I think I had windows on the other machine I had
[09:36] <Nicky> But this Linux is much more difficult to use
[09:36] <Sanne> luca: oh, another tip! You can search for the build dependencies of the version in ubuntu, you most likely would need those packages to build your version. Let me get you the file. Yre you on feisty?
[09:36] <jhutchins> Nicky:  http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html
[09:36] <luca> yes
[09:36] <luca> the cmake however functioned :)
[09:37] <luca> trying to see about the make
[09:37] <Sanne> luca: ah, cool. I still get you the page, for educational purposes ;)
[09:37] <luca> ok thanks ;)
[09:38] <Nicky> haha, that really was like greek to me :)
[09:38] <luca> *sigh* watching the Punisher on tv...absolute ****, I mean, the comic was manichean, but the movie is even worse... :-/
[09:39] <Sanne> luca: at the end of the package page for kbfx (http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/kde/kbfx) in section "More information..." is a link called [dsc] . That's the package description file with the build deps: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/k/kbfx/kbfx_<IP_ADDRESS>~rc4-1.dsc
[09:39] <alban_> Bonjour !
[09:39] <Nicky> jhutchins, do you know how I can find/move pictures from one disk to the other one?
[09:39] <alban_> Bon, je viens de me lancer dans Kubuntu ! Depuis hier
[09:39] <jhutchins> Nicky: Have you been able to mount the disk?
[09:39] <Sanne> !fr | alban_
[09:39] <ubotu> alban_: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[09:39] <alban_> je suis un "total newbie" comme on dit, mais mon site prenant de l'ampleur j'ai du passer sur ddi, et donc me mettre  linux
[09:39] <luca> Sanne: thanks :)
[09:39] <alban_> Ho, sorry I just didn't see I was in an english chan
[09:40] <alban_> I can continue in english without so many problems
[09:40] <Sanne> luca: you're welcome :)
[09:40] <Nicky> I don't know, obviously ubuntu told me that it didn't work, but I don't know
[09:40] <alban_> so : I'm a real newbie int he linux world. I've just installed Kubuntu last night
[09:40] <WillLuongo> How can I restart dhcpd from the command prompt?
[09:40] <alban_> The apt-get install amsn doesnt visibly work. What should I do to install it ?
[09:41] <keith> hi, when I press Alt + left mouse button, I can move whatever window I have on top.  Is there a way to disable this?
[09:41] <Nicky> I am not very technical at all, but I really need to find my pictures
[09:41] <jhutchins> Nicky: Why don't you know where they are?
[09:41] <WillLuongo> alban_: did you look in adept?
[09:42] <aro> Anyone recommend a good ssh client?
[09:42] <jhutchins> Nicky: I can probably help you, but you have to be willing to answer my questions.
[09:42] <alban_> WillLuongo: Yep, it's not in it too :(
[09:42] <WillLuongo> aro: the default ssh is very nice for linux, for windows I recommend putty
[09:42] <Nicky> jhutchins, I will explain it from the start, so hopefully it makes sense
[09:42] <alban_> aro : I just use the ssh command. But that's my first day on linux, so it can be a little bit.. boring
[09:42] <alban_> :D
[09:43] <aro> :)
[09:43] <Sanne> keith: yes, go to system settings/desktop/window behaviour
[09:43] <alban_> Did someone installed amsn on kubuntu ?
[09:43] <WillLuongo> alban_: Do you have multiverse and universe in your repositories list?
[09:43] <KiPSeRoN> somone can help me i install beryl in kubuntu and when i change to the beryl window manager its just dont open the windows manager and i stay with no windows manager and i back agein to kwin and its working well
[09:43] <KiPSeRoN> ?
[09:43] <luca> Sanne: uhrm.
[09:43] <alban_> WillLuongo: I saw that on ubunut website, but i didn't understand how to do it
[09:43] <_StefanS_> KiPSeRoN: try #ubuntu-effects
[09:43] <luca> Sanne: I have installed with no problems, but I do not have the applet for the menu, which means it is useless :-/
[09:43] <keith> sanne: thanks
[09:44] <WillLuongo> alban_: go into adept
[09:44] <Sanne> keith: then click the tab "Window Actions", "Modifyer key + left button"
[09:44] <alban_> WillLuongo: ok, i'm in it. and ?
[09:44] <Sanne> keith: I set the modifyer key from ALT to META, so I can move windows with the windows key.
[09:44] <WillLuongo> alban_: then click manage repositories in the adept nmenyu
[09:44] <WillLuongo> menu even
[09:45] <ubuntu> Nicky: yes
[09:45] <Nicky> I bought a new computer from a guy and he took my old one, then he said that he moved the old disk to the new machine, but now I can't find my pictures and documents from that old disk
[09:45] <WillLuongo> alban_ then just check universe, restricted, and multiverse.
[09:45] <ubuntu> jhutchins: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21168/
[09:45] <Sanne> luca: is it an applet? If so, you may need to restart x (I'm not sure though=
[09:45] <ubuntu> That's her mtab
[09:45] <luca> Sanne: ...... if I check the kbfx package details I have only two files, one of which is a DEB!!! O_o
[09:45] <jhutchins> Nicky: fdisk -l will show all the available partitions.  Put them in a pastebin.
[09:46] <Nicky> nothing happened when I typed fdisk -l
[09:46] <ubuntu> I've figured out that most anything with a 5 is swap
[09:46] <Sanne> luca: it's the the link [dsc]
[09:46] <Sanne> luca: at the far bottom of the page
[09:46] <jhutchins> Nicky: Sorry, sudo fdisk -l
[09:46] <alban_> WillLuongo: a search on "universe" does'nt match any result. But for "restricted", i've got : ubuntu restricted extras"
[09:47] <alban_> do I install it ?
[09:47] <Nicky> and the password that he gave me?
[09:47] <Sanne> luca: in this line: Source Package: kbfx, Download: [dsc]  [kbfx_<IP_ADDRESS>~rc4.orig.tar.gz]  [kbfx_<IP_ADDRESS>~rc4-1.diff.gz]
[09:47] <ubuntu> Nicky: yes
[09:47] <jhutchins> Nicky: Your regular password
[09:48] <alban_> WillLuongo: Click on manage what ? I don't see any management on the menu
[09:48] <Nicky> I put that text here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/21178/
[09:48] <WillLuongo> alban_: In adept, click the adept meny
[09:48] <WillLuongo> alban_ then click manage repositories
[09:48] <luca> Sanne: ok what do I do of this? 'cause that tells me nothing :) sorry but really I am trying this out of fun more than sense, given that I seldom compile ;)
[09:49] <alban_> I've just got "quit" on "adept" menu
[09:49] <markku> yay
[09:49] <markku> taskbar works now
[09:49] <markku> lots of work to get it work
[09:49] <Ace2016> did google just update its look for searches?
[09:49] <gilles> hi everyone, does anyone has a link to download the CGWD Themer ?
[09:49] <WillLuongo> alban_: you should have "Fetch Updates" and "Manage Repositories"
[09:49] <Sanne> luca: this dsc file has a line "build depends" that tells you what ubuntu needed to compile the package. Chances are, when you build a newer version, that you would need those packages also. Good way to find what you have to install.
[09:50] <alban_> i've just got "quit" :/
[09:51] <jhutchins> Nicky: Your pictures are probably on /dev/hda1 - can you boot to windows?
[09:51] <luca> hrum. Sanne: I guess I will wait for techies to build it for me, or so I am tempted ;)
[09:51] <routh> genii: I can't find anything on what should be in that file
[09:51] <Nicky> jhutchins, one of my girlfriends suggested that I should move all of my pictures and documents to the new disk and then empty the old one. I've been told it's possible, but how do I even now where all the files are? And again, sorry for being so completely retarded when it comes to computers
[09:52] <Sanne> luca: you can also automate this. You would enable the source repositories in your sources.list and do: apt-get build-dep <packagename>
[09:52] <WillLuongo> alban_: I don't really know why you would only have quit.
[09:52] <Sanne> luca: that would pull those build dependenceis automatically.
[09:52] <luca> uhm ok I am trying it
[09:52] <Sanne> luca: I hope I didn't overload you now ;)
[09:52] <jhutchins> It looks like your windows partition is /dev/hda1 (not hdb).
[09:52] <WillLuongo> alban_: are you using the Adept Manager in the System menu?
[09:52] <Nicky> I don't know, how would I check if I can boot to windows, do I just restart the system?
[09:53] <luca> Sanne: nah I already used apt-get ;)
[09:53] <jhutchins> !ntfs | nick
[09:53] <ubotu> nick: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:53] <Sanne> luca: as for kbfx not showing up, did you get my suggestion of restarting x?
[09:53] <genii> routh I had difficulties finding much on it as well. Right now am not on a *nix box so cannot do something like man hal    or so :(
[09:53] <phpcode> how can i get a valid ident on Konversation?
[09:53] <alban_> WillLuongo: Yes ! Add and remove programs"
[09:54] <alban_> Ho no !
[09:54] <routh> genii: I wish I could just find the one that comes with the base install of dapper - USB hotplug worked perfect on a new install of dapper
[09:54] <alban_> I was in adept installer
[09:54] <jhutchins> Ok. that's it.  I'm tired of people who ask questions and can't even sustain an intelligible dialog.  I have other things to do.
[09:54] <WillLuongo> alban_: I was kind of wondering if that was the case
[09:54] <WillLuongo> lol
[09:55] <genii> routh you have dapper/edgy/feisty?
[09:55] <luca> Sanne: not yet in any case done the build-dep
[09:55] <alban_> WillLuongo: the uni, multiverse and restricted were already crossed
[09:55] <luca> Sanne: now what? do I rerun cmake, make, checkinstall?
[09:55] <routh> genii: grr - I tired manually mounting the file by adding it to fstab and it tells me I don't have access rights - I have fiesty
[09:56] <Sanne> luca: if you already compiled successfully, you don't need to again. That was just so that you know about those tricks in the future (sorry, should have said it clearer...)
[09:56] <luca> oh ok but still...well, restarting x, but I have no luck ;)
[09:56] <genii> routh I'm seeing also something about using Automatix will mess up automounting ntfs drives. Did you use automatix recently?
[09:57] <WillLuongo> alban_: now just type amsn into the little filter thing
[09:57] <luca> mean, no faith
[09:57] <luca> back in a second :D
[09:57] <alban_> nothing
[09:57] <alban_> WillLuongo: it doesn't match anything
[09:57] <routh> genii: yeah I used automatix to add codecs and software after install - however the automounting wasn't working before I used it...
[09:57] <WillLuongo> alban_: try hitting fetch updates
[09:58] <routh> genii: trust me I tried - all my music is on this usb drive - I need tunes man - lol
[09:58] <genii> routh I hear ya :)
[09:58] <luca> Sanne: I was right :(
[09:58] <alban_> fetch updates ? where
[09:58] <alban_> ?
[09:58] <vbgunz_> !uuid
[09:58] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[09:58] <alban_> ho wait
[09:59] <alban_> it downloads somethging
[09:59] <Nicky> I followed the advice that jhutchins gave and now there is a hda1 in the /media folder, but it's empty. The /hdb1 is still there and it contains the same files as previously
[09:59] <ubuntu> hi to everybody!
[09:59] <alban_> ok i've found it
[09:59] <alban_> the bibliaries were obsolets
[09:59] <genii> routh Well, if Automatix is the cause of it,  there may be something enlightening herefor you: http://www.getautomatix.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=863    otherwise I'm outta immediate ideas
[10:00] <routh> genii: I'l lhave a look
[10:00] <Sanne> luca: sorry to hear that. I'm out of ideas then, unfortunately, and I also need to run now. Hopefully another one can continue helping you, good luck :)
[10:00] <luca> thanks :)
[10:00] <luca> Sanne: trying to remake the whole procedure, who know ;)
[10:01] <Sanne> luca: good luck, I'll be back in about an hour. Will chekc on you then.
[10:01] <luca> ok thanks ;)
[10:01] <jaims> hello all
[10:02] <ubuntu> does anybody wanna chat?
[10:02] <jaims> does anyone have been able to use the cube thing with the touchpad of a laptop?
[10:03] <jaims> compiz
[10:03] <SlimeyPete> ubuntu: if you just want to chat, you're best off going to #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:03] <ubuntu> asas
[10:06] <toma> ubuntu: i thought you needed a hand in here
[10:07] <toma> hmpf
[10:09] <alban_> Waw. I'm gonna try to synchronise thunderbird and firefox on my vista and kubuntu
[10:12] <ubuntu> !adept crash fix
[10:12] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:12] <Daisuke_Ido> someone mentions vista, they become persona non grata :)
[10:15] <sayers__> When I maximize things they still allow me to stretch them.......
[10:15] <routh_> Well that got me nowhere - I'm still getting the message that hald is refusing access to the USB drive for user 1000
[10:16] <alban_> Hm.
[10:16] <alban_> How can I change my screen resolution ? It does'nt seems to be like in windows( right click on the desktop)
[10:17] <nimble> kmenu>system settings>monitor & display
[10:18] <Daisuke_Ido> alban_: that's because it isn't windows :)
[10:18] <Daisuke_Ido> try ctrl-alt-+ or -
[10:18] <phpcode> how to install ident server?
[10:18] <genii> alban_: Use ctrl-alt then + or - keys
[10:18] <aleksanteri> hey how can i change the kde's program keyboard button associations?
[10:18] <genii> Daisuke_Ido: heh :)
[10:18] <aleksanteri> like i have a "calculator" button here
[10:18] <aleksanteri> but i want to change it's association to kcalc
[10:19] <marko> alban:from where are you
[10:19] <aleksanteri> as me thinks kcalc is better than speedcrunch ^__^
[10:19] <nimble> speedcrunch seems quite unstable
[10:19] <genii> Daisuke_Ido: BTW I had someone ask about changing ctrl-alt-+ and ctrl-alt--   to just ctrl-alt + and ctrl-alt - the other day LOL
[10:20] <Daisuke_Ido> genii: i think that just made my head explode
[10:20] <alban_> genii: I've tried but it doesn't work( i'm on a laptop : no pad)
[10:20] <marko> alban: in system settings you can change the resolution
[10:20] <Lectus> Hello
[10:21] <Lectus> I just installed Kubuntu, but the system is all in english. How can I change it to portuguese?
[10:21] <larry> hey all
[10:21] <genii> alban_: For laptops usually they have a function key (FN) that if you just hit that no other keys in F1-F8 range then it turns on the numpad up around the uiop jkl nm area
[10:21] <Black_Cat> Lectus, KMenu - System - Language Selector
[10:22] <Lectus> Black_Cat: I do it. But portuguese does not appear on the list.
[10:22] <marko> Lectus run adept and search for portugal
[10:22] <larry> has anybody gotten  crossover linux  to work on ubuntu?
[10:23] <marko> you will find localisation pakages
[10:23] <alban_> I've just tried again with the function key
[10:23] <alban_> it didn't work
[10:23] <chris_scummette> !register
[10:23] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[10:23] <Black_Cat> Lectus, it's strange.  see Portuguese there
[10:24] <Black_Cat> * I see
[10:24] <luca> Sanne: for when you're back...unsuccessful. Dunno why, I am giving it up :P
[10:24] <marko> where can i find the Desktop efects in 7.04
[10:24] <frode_> rei rei....
[10:25] <genii> alban_: Then use marko's suggestion :)