[00:05] <R0SS> hi
[00:07] <R0SS> who's alive?
[00:08] <daftykins> just ask
[00:09] <R0SS> well I'm looking forward to install new OS on my old pentium IV pc for private game hosting
[00:10] <daftykins> that's gonna run terribly
[00:10] <R0SS> and I don't sure is my old pc can handle ubuntu
[00:10] <daftykins> what game do you want to host?
[00:10] <R0SS> its an 2.4Ghz Northwood Cpu
[00:10] <R0SS> Xonotic
[00:11] <daftykins> yes i am familiar with P4s
[00:11] <daftykins> run server and you'll have the best chance
[00:12] <R0SS> well can does ubuntu still got his great package manager?
[00:12] <R0SS> last time i used ubuntu was 9.04
[00:13] <xSolidState> R0SS, you can install ubuntu server, that has apt-get as well...
[00:13] <xSolidState> but youll have to ssh and stuff, you cant do gui by default then
[00:13] <R0SS> well.. so can't i use vnc ?
[00:14] <Hulio> what is a good linux distro?
[00:14] <bekks> R0SS: you can, after installing it.
[00:14] <Hulio> like popularity
[00:14] <bekks> Hulio: Guess the answer, being in an Ubuntu channel.
[00:15] <R0SS> @hulio you know
[00:15] <Hulio> ubuntu i guess lol
[00:15] <Hulio> i've seen fancy looking ubuntu
[00:15] <Hulio> probably xubuntu
[00:16] <Hulio> man, i see more people in ubuntu then fedora :)
[00:17] <bekks> Hulio: Not that surprising, being in the largest channel on the Freenode network.
[00:17] <theme2> I have a problem with apt-get
[00:17] <daftykins> R0SS: you will have a hard time doing anything useful with such an old system, i don't know the game but if it supports running a game server with no graphics - you should go that route and stay pure command line - no GUI.
[00:17] <theme2> "E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened."
[00:18] <bekks> theme2: Whats the entire output, please pastebin it.
[00:18] <theme2> happened after connecting to an unreliable internet connection
[00:18] <theme2> bekks, wait a sec
[00:19] <theme2> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10600447/
[00:19] <theme2> that
[00:19] <theme2> that's after downloading everything properly
[00:20] <bekks> theme2: Thats not the entire output I requested.
[00:20] <theme2> bekks, ok
[00:20] <theme2> bekks, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10600450/
[00:21] <R0SS> daftykins: well the server can run with no gui so...
[00:21] <theme2> not so much infermation there
[00:21] <bekks> theme2: PRetty much information actually :)
[00:21] <theme2> O_o
[00:21] <theme2> such as?
[00:21] <bekks> theme2: remove that broken file and try again.
[00:21] <theme2> what file?
[00:22] <theme2> oh...
[00:22] <ekaj113> hi
[00:22] <R0SS> ekaj113: hi
[00:22] <sarnold> does anyone know how to tell network manager to leave me alone for a few minutes? I'm trying to do some manual networking to play with a new router and NM keeps unsetting the IPs I set and routes I set
[00:23] <toctheyounger> yo
[00:23] <toctheyounger> im having an issue with my webcam
[00:23] <sarnold> I still want NM around, I'll need it eventually no doubt, but I'd like it to go away for a few hours
[00:23] <theme2> bekks, seems like I have more than one corrupted file :(
[00:23] <toctheyounger> dell e6220
[00:23] <ikonia> do the manual networking through network manager
[00:23] <ikonia> trying to fight network manager is a bad idea
[00:23] <toctheyounger> lsusb doesnt show anything
[00:23] <bekks> theme2: because?
[00:23] <toctheyounger> webcam not showing up
[00:23] <toctheyounger> looking for a way to install the integrated camera
[00:23] <theme2> bekks, wait a sec
[00:24] <ekaj113> does anybody know if i can install the server version of ubuntu on a slim playstation 2
[00:24] <sarnold> ikonia: oh! I hadn't thought about using the gui. sigh.
[00:24] <ikonia> ekaj113: no
[00:24] <sarnold> ikonia: thanks mate :)
[00:24] <ikonia> ekaj113: wrong arch
[00:24] <theme2> bekks, retrying reported an error on a different file
[00:24]  * theme2 deletes it
[00:24] <R0SS>  sarnold nope
[00:25] <ekaj113> ikonia: what do you mean by "wrong arch"
[00:25] <toctheyounger> webcam not showing up
[00:25] <toctheyounger> HELP
[00:25] <toctheyounger> i wnat to use this cam
[00:25] <toctheyounger> but it isnt coming up in lsusb
[00:25] <toctheyounger> what so i do
[00:25] <toctheyounger> if the device is not listed
[00:25] <R0SS> toctheyounger: what model?
[00:25] <theme2> third corrupted file :(
[00:25] <ikonia> ekaj113: a.) PS2 is not x86 b.) it's also not supporting other OS's - thats why they killed play station linux
[00:26] <theme2> apt-get update succeeded!
[00:26] <theme2> bekks, thanks
[00:26] <toctheyounger> dell e6220
[00:26] <theme2> I didn't know that those files are deletable
[00:26] <toctheyounger> integrated webcam
[00:26] <toctheyounger> i downloaded cheese and guvcview but both programs say that the camera is undetectable
[00:26] <toctheyounger> looking for an answer
[00:26] <bombo_> hi guys,does anyone know wich one is better:network manager or wicd?
[00:27] <ekaj113> ikonia: do you know something i can do with a playstion 2 besides sell it
[00:27] <ikonia> ekaj113: no
[00:27] <theme2> ekaj113, play it? :P
[00:28] <theme2> throw it?
[00:28] <toctheyounger> what do think is the issue
[00:28] <FreezingCold> lucid is the oldest system I can expect to see in production right?
[00:28] <toctheyounger> nothing comes up when i enter 'lsusb'
[00:28] <theme2> toctheyounger, check the cables?
[00:29] <bekks> toctheyounger: sudo lsusb
[00:29] <toctheyounger> the webcam is built in
[00:30] <bekks> toctheyounger: Whats the output of "sudo lsusb"?
[00:30] <toctheyounger> Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0a5c:5800 Broadcom Corp. BCM5880 Secure Applications Processor
[00:30] <toctheyounger> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
[00:30] <toctheyounger> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[00:30] <toctheyounger> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0024 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub
[00:30] <toctheyounger> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[00:30] <toctheyounger> thats what i get when i lsusb
[00:30] <bekks> !pastebin | toctheyounger
[00:30] <toctheyounger> ok
[00:30] <toctheyounger> np
[00:32] <toctheyounger> whta do you guys think the issue is?
[00:33] <xSolidState> bombo_, it really depends, really. I have a problem currently with wicd because my uni did not have a config tutorial for the wifi on linux. Might be easier to configure on networkmanager
[00:33] <xSolidState> but just try em both
[00:33] <bombo_> xsolid. i am having problems with my conection on nm
[00:34] <crepple> xSolidState wicd seems to have dropped a long way behind network manager lately
[00:35] <bombo_> i will give wicd a try anyway
[00:35] <xSolidState> bombo_, well you could just ask about your problem on here
[00:36] <FreezingCold> bombo_: wicd is *very* slow
[00:36] <bombo_> xsolid.  my isue is a verry slow conection on nm,it takes for ever to conect
[00:36] <Hulio> SHA1 is one way right?
[00:36] <FreezingCold> bombo_: I would suggest using systemd-networkd (with wpa_supplicant for WiFi) or connman
[00:37] <bombo_> freezing.  is it slower than nm?
[00:38] <toctheyounger> idk what to do
[00:38] <toctheyounger> usually i have the answer
[00:44] <pakde> hello everyone
[00:44] <FreezingCold> So this might seem like an odd question, but how can I intentionally downgrade my entire system as lowest version libraries as possible to use with the latest version of a certain package I want?
[00:46] <xSolidState> FreezingCold, what are you trying to do? do you need libwhatever2.x but have libwhatever3.x ?
[00:46] <pakde> !info
[00:46] <FreezingCold> xSolidState: I'm creating a static binary to be somewhat "portable" across various campus computers, and the earlier the library I build in, the better chance I have of it working
[00:46] <FreezingCold> though...
[00:46] <shiyan> hello everyone
[00:46] <FreezingCold> Using lucid with updated packages is probably the only safe way of doing it
[00:47] <FreezingCold> because I could be missing important security updates
[00:47] <xSolidState> FreezingCold, well cant you just bring the libraries with the program? Im not that deep into compiling but you could just compile with that version downloaded manually and ship the .so's, couldnt you?
[00:47] <toctheyounger> can someone help me with this problem
[00:48] <toctheyounger> the webcam
[00:48] <FreezingCold> xSolidState: Yep that's what I am doing. The thing is those libraries reference "common" libraries, which sometimes get changed over time.
[00:48] <xSolidState> toctheyounger, your webcam might not even be connected via usb. Check lspci or something and see if it shows up there. use | and grep with lspci tho
[00:48] <toctheyounger> dog
[00:48] <toctheyounger> the camera is built in
[00:48] <toctheyounger> lsmod
[00:48] <FreezingCold> xSolidState: Now that I think about it, I really shouldn't be supporting distros older than Lucid
[00:49] <toctheyounger> didnt have anything
[00:49] <toctheyounger> lsusb didnt either
[00:49] <yeowza_> Whenever I compile with gcc I have to type out all of the libraries I use and when I'm debugging / testing it gets really tiresome.  Is there an easier way to include libraries?
[00:49] <xSolidState> toctheyounger, you can just write multiple sentences in one message.
[00:49] <toctheyounger> as long as i find answers
[00:49] <FreezingCold> yeowza_: what language is this even in?
[00:49] <yeowza_> C
[00:50] <FreezingCold> yeowza_: look into how cmake works.
[00:50] <yeowza_> ok thx man
[00:50] <toctheyounger> is there any way to turn the camera on?
[00:50] <xSolidState> toctheyounger, read my message to you again. it might be a pci device or something. a builtin camera doesnt have to connect via usb, does it?
[00:51] <toctheyounger> what is the file path that i need to check
[00:51] <toctheyounger> absolute
[00:51] <xSolidState> toctheyounger, try the lspci command. as i said
[00:51] <xSolidState> and dont paste the output in here or the mods are gonna kill you, use pastebin
[00:52] <toctheyounger> k
[00:53] <toctheyounger> I dont think that any of those are the webcam
[00:54] <shiyan> I am a novice, and Adobe Flash player in Firefox always crash, especially the Web game, how to solve thanks
[00:54] <zerowaitstate> shiyan: first, you must find an error message, then you must post it to pastebin
[00:55] <zerowaitstate> shiyan: then you must articulate the steps you took before the crash
[00:55] <zerowaitstate> shiyan: then you must offer to buy pizza and beer
[00:57] <shiyan> Thanks I will try it
[00:57] <romps> Hello all!
[00:57] <romps> Anyone have any ideas on how I can get my ubuntu network connection + VPN to automatically reconnect?
[00:59] <zerowaitstate> shiyan: I recommend checking /var/log/syslog if all else fails
[01:06] <martin__> hola a todos/as :)
[01:13] <leonlemouton> romps : http://askubuntu.com/questions/328823/vpn-autoconnect
[01:17] <xjkx> I think some hidden application changes my local ip, how do I set to always have xxx.105 ?
[01:19] <toctheyounger> i dont xsolidstate think that it is there either
[01:22] <leonlemouton> xjkx: http://www.sudo-juice.com/how-to-set-a-static-ip-in-ubuntu-the-proper-way/
[01:23] <xjkx> will read thanks
[01:33] <netameta> whats the command to see current rout ?
[01:33] <netameta> or current path
[01:34] <Ben64> netameta: "route" or "pwd"
[01:34] <FreezingCold> uh, what's the expected output of debootstrap stage 2?
[01:34] <netameta> Thanks
[01:35] <FreezingCold> I: Installing core packages...
[01:35] <FreezingCold> and quit
[01:35] <tomreyn> maybe disk full?
[01:36] <hsnmck> Hi, my vps is running Ubuntu 11.04. What is the safest way to upgrade to Ubuntu 14.04 without loosing files or breaking things? thanks
[01:37] <tomreyn> create backup, then reinstall, then restore backup. or: create backup, upgrade to 12.04, then upgrade to 14.04.
[01:39] <tomreyn> if it ran with (unsupported for years) 11.04 for a while it may well be compromised, so be careful what you backup/restore
[01:40] <FreezingCold> root@misalliances:~# ls
[01:40] <FreezingCold> bash: ls: command not found
[01:40] <tomreyn> FreezingCold: what are you running there?
[01:40] <FreezingCold> ....Ubuntu?
[01:41] <tomreyn> well a working ubuntu installation would provide the "ls" command
[01:41] <anakimluke> Hey guys. Is there a channel for Ubuntu Phone discussion?
[01:41] <FreezingCold> tomreyn: no duh.
[01:41] <FreezingCold> it's created by deboostrap
[01:42] <hsnmck> tomreyn, thanks
[01:42] <FreezingCold> ah, seems that my path is screwed up
[01:42] <tomreyn> ls is a builtin, shouldn't require path to be set correctly
[01:42] <nih0> FreezingCold: /bin/ls
[01:42] <tomreyn> hsnmck: welcome
[01:42] <FreezingCold> nih0: [23:11:19] <FreezingCold> ah, seems that my path is screwed up
[01:42] <tommy_blair> hey, my brother just installed ubuntu and is making me try irc
[01:43] <seba_> hello
[01:43] <seba_> somebody can read me  ?
[01:44] <FreezingCold> No.
[01:44] <seba_> great
[01:44] <seba_> i like to talk to nobody
[01:45] <tomreyn> he doesn't appear to be around currently
[01:45] <FreezingCold> Is there any Ubuntu chroot tarballs ready to use?
[01:45] <tomreyn> welcome to irc, tommy_blair
[01:45] <tomreyn> seba_, too ;)
[01:46] <tomreyn> FreezingCold: looks like i was wrong about 'ls' being a builtin, apologies.
[01:47] <seba_> im a begginer in linux, but i love it
[01:47] <tomreyn> well not a bash built-in, it is present in busybox.
[01:47] <seba_> i have 6 diferent OS in diferent computeers, and i bought a firefox os mobile phone
[01:47] <seba_> it's greta
[01:47] <seba_> great
[01:50] <seba_> any beauty girl who love linux, please talk to me in pv.
[01:54] <MrEikono> hey everyone
[01:54] <tomreyn> hello web chat user
[01:54] <MrEikono> hello
[01:55] <MrEikono> really new to Ubuntu but I'm here because I want to be
[01:55] <MrEikono> welcome guys
[01:55] <MrEikono> anyway, my really good friend who's super good with computers and stuff introduced me to Ubuntu, so I have all the files installed on a flash drive right now (but not actually Ubuntu)
[01:56] <MrEikono> sorry for long message, but that's why I'm here :)
[01:56]  * haza-w waves to MrEikono
[01:56] <MrEikono> hi
[01:56]  * MrEikono waves to haza
[02:04]  * MrEikono sits quietly
[02:07] <SchrodingersScat> MrEikono: so how far along are you?
[02:07] <MrEikono> not very far at all
[02:07] <MrEikono> I got the UUI done, so I have all the files on the drive I need
[02:07] <MrEikono> but I haven't run "wubi" to install Ubuntu
[02:07] <SchrodingersScat> oh my, that's your plan?
[02:08] <MrEikono> yeah why
[02:08] <rypervenche> I would not use Wubi, it is not a real installation.
[02:09] <MrEikono> wubi.exe, not an installation huh?
[02:09] <MrEikono> installed with the UUI but it's not an installation?
[02:09] <MrEikono> What then?
[02:10] <rypervenche> If you want to keep Windows on your machine, I would recommend dual booting.
[02:14] <MrEikono> back
[02:14] <MrEikono> yup my friend who got me into Ubuntu today suggested that rypervenche
[02:14] <MrEikono> dual booting
[02:14] <MrEikono> part Windows, part Linux yup
[02:15] <rypervenche> That would be best.^^
[02:15] <tomreyn> !dualboot | rypervenche
[02:15] <yeowza_> hello, if I'm compiling a C program and I want to use a library do I have to add the library files in the same directory as the program?
[02:16] <yeowza_> I'm trying to use libusb but it cannot find the files
[02:16] <MrEikono> I think my friend knows everything
[02:16] <MrEikono> he said he's been using Ubuntu for like 5 years
[02:16] <MrEikono> but I'll bookmark that
[02:17] <SchrodingersScat> yeowza_: did you install libusb-dev ?
[02:17] <yeowza_> yep
[02:17] <yeowza_> I tried compiling with gcc -o test test.c -lusb also but it is same thing
[02:18] <yeowza_> I'm guessing I need to copy the library files into same directory as program?
[02:21] <tomreyn> yeowza_: would you like to discuss why you're trying to build libusb yourself?
[02:22] <yeowza_> tomreyn: I'm not sure, all I want to do is use it so I #include <libusb.h> but maybe I'm not linking it correctly?
[02:22] <tomreyn> and, if so, are you building it from a source package (deb), or the upstream one (and if so, which verison)?
[02:22] <seba_> any beauty girl who love linux, please talk to me in pv.
[02:23] <Ben64> seba_: please don't use this channel for that
[02:23] <SchrodingersScat> !guidelines | seba, also !pm,
[02:24] <tomreyn> yeowza_: so you're trying to link against libusb.h, not trying to build libusb itself. those are quite different things.
[02:24] <vexn> what's the difference between doing apt-get dist-upgrade and doing apt-get upgrade;;apt-get autoclean ?
[02:25] <rnose> the same as the difference between jam and jelly.  I can't JELLY my dick up your ass!
[02:25] <rnose> HAHAHAHAHA
[02:25]  * rnose slaps her pussy for FREEDOM!
[02:26] <rnose> CHOLBY RULES SUCK MY DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK
[02:26] <rnose> OMGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWD
[02:26]  * rnose slaps her pussy for FREEDOM!
[02:26] <rnose> CHOLBY RULES SUCK MY DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICK
[02:26] <aeon-ltd> classy.
[02:26] <SchrodingersScat> vexn: can check out man apt-get, it lists the commands.
[02:27] <vexn> ok does man work for all commands?
[02:27] <tomreyn> that's: man apt-get
[02:27] <SchrodingersScat> many
[02:27] <tomreyn> (type q to exit)
[02:27] <vexn> ok i thought man was just for some commands but it's standardized?
[02:28] <tomreyn> its a standard which many softwares adhere to
[02:29] <vexn> so not required but usually man + commandName = instructions on how to use it?
[02:29] <tomreyn> most of the time, give it a try.
[02:32] <MrEikono> well uh I'll be back tomorrow, by then I'll probably have Ubuntu installed
[02:32] <MrEikono> bye guys, wish me luck
[02:32] <swagadelathorsh> How can I have Ubuntu boot in to the command line logon screen, without any X at all.
[02:32] <swagadelathorsh> And then when I want the Unity logon screen I can type some command.
[02:33]  * LolBird slaps her pussy for FREEDOM!
[02:34] <tomreyn> swagadelathorsh: you could uninstall any graphical login daemons
[02:35] <swagadelathorsh> I don't want to uninstall them
[02:35] <swagadelathorsh> I think it has something to do with Grub
[02:35] <SchrodingersScat> !text | swagadelathorsh
[02:37] <swagadelathorsh> SchrodingersScat: Thanks, that did it.
[02:37] <swagadelathorsh> What is the command to start up the unity login?
[02:37] <SchrodingersScat> swagadelathorsh: great, idk how to start unity from there
[02:37] <swagadelathorsh> startx
[02:37] <swagadelathorsh> did it
[02:37] <swagadelathorsh> thanks very much
[02:37] <SchrodingersScat> have fun
[02:38] <swagadelathorsh> actually it's 'sudo service lightdm start'
[02:39] <swagadelathorsh> startx doesn't start everything properly and leaves you with a broken desktop
[02:49] <rocktumbler> hello all!
[02:50] <firefoxvt> hi :D
[02:50] <firefoxvt> I typed alias projx='cd /srv/users/serverpilot/apps/tudienit/public/'
[02:50] <firefoxvt> but I type cd projx
[02:50] <firefoxvt> it's show No such file or directory
[02:51] <firefoxvt> somebody tell me why, thank you very much
[02:53] <Mr_Sheesh> Oh boy. Fun here... Fresh install on a laptop I just got used; 14.04.2 just installed, giving me KernelOops in linux-image-3.16.0-30-generic 3.16.0-30.40-14.04.1
[02:53] <SchrodingersScat> firefoxvt: if you made it an alias, wouldn't you just type projx instead of cd projx ?
[02:53] <tomreyn> firefoxvt: you're trying to use alias as a variable, but it's m,eant to be used as a command
[02:54] <rocktumbler> quick simple question i am tring to auto mount a nas storage device under guest i have edited the fstab file but it is not mounting and i have a feeling its because of a space in the mount folder (<IP_ADDRESS>/public disk) i have tried backslash method and quots
[02:54] <Mr_Sheesh> @ include/net/cfg80211.h:3343 hmm might be a bad 802.11 card; using wired ethernet
[02:55] <rocktumbler> this is what i have added to fstab /<IP_ADDRESS>/public\ disk  /media/190  cifs  guest,uid=1000,iocharset=utf8  0  0
[02:55] <daftykins> rocktumbler: don't use a space. at all.
[02:55] <rocktumbler> but i daftykins: cannot change the folder
[02:55] <rocktumbler> oop
[02:55] <tomreyn> Mr_Sheesh: right, get an updated firmware for your wireless (using wired ethernet), then reboot and retry. if it still won't work, you may need to try an updated kernel
[02:55] <daftykins> rocktumbler: of course you can
[02:56] <firefoxvt> @tomreyn: I dont understand tom, can you fix it for me. I thank you.
[02:56] <daftykins> rocktumbler: also it's //IP - double slash
[02:57] <rocktumbler> daftykins: yes i know that it just didnt copy the first slash... but the nas i have is a linksys nas and that folder is preconfigured and cant be changed or new ones created
[02:57] <rocktumbler> only what is inside that folder
[02:57] <Mr_Sheesh> tomreyn - for all I know the wireless card's dead or not there, working on 3 systems as some hardware died on me -mutters- I'll check; I know the other one has BT & 802.11, wasn't sure on this one; Usual tools CD I use is missing
[02:57] <tomreyn> firefoxvt: try this: projx='cd /srv/users/serverpilot/apps/tudienit/public/'; $projx
[02:58] <daftykins> rocktumbler: so share another :)
[02:58] <SchrodingersScat> do you need a : between address and disk? or is that just rsync, etc?
[02:58] <Ben64> rocktumbler: use //<IP_ADDRESS>/public\040disk
[02:59] <rocktumbler> Ben64: Thank you
[03:00] <rocktumbler> Ben64: i hate spaces on nas root folders i also have a goflex nas but im getting up a rom location for emulationstation
[03:00] <Ben64> i hate spaces in almost any folder
[03:00] <rocktumbler> me too :P
[03:00] <daftykins> causes nothing but headaches
[03:00] <daftykins> as does mixed case :>
[03:00] <rocktumbler> they are not needed i just put a capital letter
[03:01] <tomreyn> eek octal
[03:02] <firefoxvt> tomreyn: thank you, but I remembered a course of linux foundation on edx.org use alias projx='cd /.....'
[03:02] <firefoxvt> I just type cd projx to change directory
[03:03] <tomreyn> just "proj" then, no "cd"
[03:03] <tomreyn> just "projx" then, no "cd"
[03:03] <firefoxvt> ahhhh, ok
[03:03] <firefoxvt> Thank you very much tom :D
[03:04] <firefoxvt> tomreyn: and how to remove a alias? Tom
[03:04] <newbooter> Hi all.
[03:05] <leonlemouton> hi
[03:06] <daftykins> firefoxvt: perhaps go do that course again ;)
[03:06] <newbooter> I would like to add a swap partition / file on another HDD. Does it matter if I create a swap partition or a file? If I create a partition, is it sufficient to do that from Gparted? Will the system detect the extra swap partition after reboot and start using it? Or do I need to do more?
[03:07] <firefoxvt> okay, I thank you very much daft and tom
[03:07] <rejit> newbooter: Depending on the workload and the capacity of your RAM , you might not need a swap
[03:08] <newbooter> rejit: It's an older system with 1 GB of RAM...
[03:08] <leonlemouton> newbooter : http://serverfault.com/questions/218122/how-do-i-increase-swap-memory-in-debian
[03:11] <newbooter> Ok leonlemouton, reading that page now
[03:12] <yeowza_> ugh, so after hours of troubleshooting I finally figured out that the header file I really needed with libusb on ubuntu is "usb.h" instead of "libusb.h" as in the official libusb repo, why is ubuntu different?
[03:12] <daftykins> yeowza_: why is not-ubuntu different? :)
[03:13] <yeowza_> I guess ubuntu themselves are using libusb so they included a libusb-dev and changed some stuff around so developers can use it also?
[03:13] <kk0710> guys I am having a heck of a time with my new laptop and LTS install.  I am constantly having to reset my wireless adapter and plugin-conf is maxing out my cpu and freezing all the time?
[03:14] <newbooter> So leonlemouton, there are 3 solutions on that page, you are referring to the one with 9 upvotes? mkswap, add to /fstab, run swapon -a?
[03:16] <newbooter> Do I need to do swapon -a only once, or every time after reboot?
[03:17] <leonlemouton> newbooter and this link : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[03:17] <yeowza_> so I guess the lesson to learn here is to not use the libraries installed by your linux distro and instead download them yourself
[03:18] <newbooter> leonlemouton: yes was looking at that one also via that other page.
[03:19] <trism> yeowza_: there are two libusb packages in ubuntu at least in 14.04, libusb-0.1-4 and libusb-1.0-0, libusb-1.0-0-dev has libusb.h
[03:19] <tomreyn> newbooter: swapon -a activates all swap partitions defined in fstab. it's also run automatically at boot.
[03:20] <newbooter> So ubuntu page say regarding resume: "'INFO: This will not work for 12.04, resume from hibernate work differently in 12.04.'" So that means this part DOES work for versions later than 12.04?
[03:20] <leonlemouton> newbooter :  change /etc/fstab and it's OK.
[03:21] <newbooter> tomreyn: ok runs at boot. Good.
[03:21] <newbooter> Ok
[03:21] <leonlemouton> ;)
[03:21] <tomreyn> hibernate may work on a later version, or not. try with a live usb.
[03:23] <tomreyn> bazhang: hi, do you happen to know who maintains ubottu?
[03:23] <newbooter> So serverfault page has following comment "Even if you use hibernation, you may not need to add the new swap's UUID in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX in /etc/default/grub file." Is that true for version 14.10 that I am on?
[03:23] <SchrodingersScat> !owner | tomreyn
[03:24] <tomreyn> oops thanks
[03:25] <daftykins> newbooter: do it anyway, 'sudo blkid' to read UUIDs of partitions
[03:25] <newbooter>  ok daftykins
[03:27] <nikhil> Heya Daftykins :)/
[03:27] <daftykins> morning
[03:28] <kk0710> guys I am having a heck of a time with my new laptop and LTS install.  I am constantly having to reset my wireless adapter and plugin-conf is maxing out my cpu and freezing all the time? Any ideas?
[03:28] <jkes> My mouse is sticky
[03:29] <daftykins> kk0710: ok i'll bite, what wireless adapter?
[03:30] <tomreyn> kbrosnan: what's plugin-conf?
[03:30] <jkes> I don't know how to troubleshoot this. It works fine if I boot to Windows.
[03:30] <tomreyn> kbrosnan: sorry that was meant to go to kk0710
[03:31] <tomreyn> jkes: is that some special mouse with extra features?
[03:31] <daftykins> jkes: ...sticky? my first thought was unplug it and clean...
[03:32] <nikhil> for what is ubuntu best know for?
[03:32] <jkes> Lol. It lags and sticks onscreen.
[03:32] <tomreyn> jkes: maybe you mean stuck, as in, the pointer won't move no matter what you do
[03:32] <daftykins> nikhil: telling people to stop asking non-support questions in their support channel
[03:32] <daftykins> ;]
[03:32] <jkes> As I move it around the screen it gets jerky
[03:33] <nikhil> Yea got it ;p
[03:33] <tomreyn> try a different usb port.
[03:34] <jkes> I did. I have 4 USB 3.0 on the back of  my case and 2 that will only recognize as 2.0 on the front. I moved the usb receiver around hoping that would help, but nothing
[03:34] <nikhil> daftykins, btw is there a way to change the label of the partition ?
[03:34] <daftykins> 'label' ?
[03:35] <daftykins> 'the partition' ?
[03:35] <nikhil> not the mounting name
[03:35] <kk0710> tomreyn, it is the plug in manager for firefox(I think), that part of the issue has something to do with the adobe flash plugin I believe.  I had this problem on my old laptop too but this is a new one with a fresh install
[03:35] <tomooo> whois tomooo
[03:35] <nikhil> my joshua partition is labelled as 92GB Volume
[03:36] <jkes> I never noticed any problem, then I upgraded to unicorn and installed plex media server. I don't know that I've done anything before I noticed it was getting "sticky"
[03:36] <nikhil> daftykins, I want to change that name also
[03:36] <daftykins> pass
[03:36] <nikhil> ;_;
[03:36] <daftykins> honestly, i don't understand why a name means so much to you
[03:37] <nikhil> Actually I sort my data and keep them in separate partitions
[03:37] <nikhil> like for programming and projects one partition
[03:37] <tomreyn> kk0710: i think you may be referring to plugin-container
[03:38] <daftykins> that's... a new one on me
[03:38] <nikhil> and Designing another
[03:38] <jkes> And, really, Plex was installed for a while before I upped to unicorn. I didn't really notice the issue until after the 14.10
[03:38] <daftykins> bit excessive.
[03:38] <kk0710> yes + not t sorry
[03:38] <nikhil> personal too
[03:38] <tomreyn> kk0710: flash and other bad browser plugins may trigger a high system load for this process. it's safe to kill the process if you don't mind loosing any flash process state.
[03:39] <nikhil> I think the best way is to go to windows and change the name and come back
[03:39] <kk0710> tomreyn, it happens constantly though, is there no fix? it's 50/50 if I can even get through a video without it locking up and havking to kill the process
[03:39] <kk0710> not to mention my wireless problems, I really don't want to have to go back to windows but I am at my limit
[03:40] <tomreyn> kk0710: make sure you've got the latest flash-plugin installed. and don't use flash where possible.
[03:40] <kk0710> everything uses flash
[03:40] <kk0710> and I did a fresh install so assumed it came with the most recent plugin
[03:40] <tomreyn> luckily not these days.
[03:40] <kk0710> Youtube?
[03:41] <tomreyn> is in process to swiitch the default to html5, which has been supported for years
[03:41] <rejit> nikhil: use git to partition your code and project , sort of a pseudo filesystem
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[03:42] <tomreyn> hi there
[03:42] <mines5> perchance someone can help me with this: http://oliversmith.io/technology/2012/01/10/streaming-audio-from-ubuntu-linux-to-a-dlna-player-blu-ray-or-ps3/
[03:42] <mines5> it functions for the most part, but I haven't determined how to get my laptop to stream it properly
[03:43] <nikhil> rejit: thanks for the advice :) I'll try that
[03:43] <mines5> I get errors on startup for a couple of things
[03:43] <wallbroken> hi
[03:43] <tomreyn> kk0710: about your mouse, what does "lsusb" list it as?
[03:44] <wallbroken> somebody of you knows how wondershaper works? in the sense of: how system do it uses to throttle speed
[03:44] <ae> hi
[03:44] <wallbroken> *which
[03:44] <Guest16772> I need to know how good is RiseupVPN
[03:44] <tomreyn> kk0710: same goes for your wireless, but in "lspci" output
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> wallbroken: does the manpage show anything usefull?
[03:44] <kk0710> just seems odd ot me the flash plug in is constantly locking up my system
[03:44] <kk0710> 08:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[03:44] <kk0710> in the software center I have a check next to the flash plugin so was assuming that was the most up to date one?
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> Guest16772: thats more a question for the ##networking guys
[03:45] <tomreyn> kk0710: what's your ubuntu version? is it all up to date?
[03:45] <kk0710> tomreyn, I already gave you output from lspci, and why do you care abou tmy mouse?
[03:45] <Guest16772> I wonder which one is better for mac ...opensuse or xubuntu any idea?
[03:45] <kk0710> tomreyn, yes fresh install(like 2 weeks but updated on a brand new hp i3 laptop
[03:46] <tomreyn> kk0710: sorry, i mixed you up with jkes there about that mouse
[03:46] <kk0710> tomreyn, ah ok lol
[03:47] <tomreyn> kk0710: so that's ubuntu 14.10 ?
[03:47] <nikhil> daftykins, Which programming language should I learn to develop software for ubuntu?
[03:47] <kk0710> tomreyn, but yes 14.04 lts all up to date, been happening since day one.  I am dual booting windows 8(which is garbage but just in case) and have check I have had no connectivity problems over there or any issues with flash on firefox
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> nikhil: the #ubuntu-devel guys can also point you to the right direction
[03:48] <nikhil> on my way lotuspsychje :) thanks
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: firefox updated recently
[03:48] <rejit> nikhil: https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/apps/sdk/
[03:48] <wallbroken> lotuspsychje, looks like: no
[03:49] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, well I have lts wouldn't it be taken care of with updates if it wasn't in the original installer?
[03:49] <tomreyn> kk0710: try a live usb / cdrom of ubuntu 14.10, see if these issues persist. on new hardware, a new linux version can be mandatory.
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> nikhil: also the #ubuntu-touch guys can always need help on ubuntu touch developing
[03:49] <Guest16772> opensuse or xubuntu on macbook, any idea?
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: just help think what could cause a flash freeze, did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[03:49] <kk0710> tomreyn, ok that is counterintuitive to what I have always been told before.  LTS was always better for drivers and what not.
[03:50] <tomreyn> kk0710: maybe i can provide better hints if you could tell the exact HP laptop's model number, which is likely printed on a label on the bottom.
[03:50] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, I've installed nothing extra I can think of that would cause this and again it has been since day one
[03:50] <newbooter> Using clonezilla for the first time. Preparing to clone a local partition to another local partition. Is it ok if the target partition is larger than the source?  Those are only accesible from command line? I have been looking at Clonezilla text-based GUI so far.
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: for your realtek, check firmwares on the realtek website for linux, some cards perform better after
[03:54] <kk0710> the plugin-con/flash issue happened on my old laptop with lts as well but not quite as often.  Now it is way more often and I have the adapter issues
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: after restricted extras, try firefox from terminal
[03:55] <Nikhil> lotuspsychje, and for general ubuntu chat which channel?
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Nikhil
[03:57] <jason__> Are ethernet cards/chips generally better supported in Ubuntu than wireless? I'm having a lot of trouble getting wireless working (though it happens to be working pretty well at the moment).
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> jason__: depends on the chipset really
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> jason__: wich one did you have?
[03:58] <kk0710> this package is taking foreva
[03:59] <jason__> Which wireless?
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> jason__: yes chipset and driver?
[03:59] <jkes> Sorry if I missed anything. Went from the command line Pidgin to the pidgin app. Anywho, how can I troubleshoot my mouse? My PC's pretty decent. i7 3770 3.5GHz / 32G ram / GForce 660ti+. I rarely go above 3% of my processor unless I'm gaming. I never tap my swap file. Everything was going fine until I upped to unicorn. the only process' I have running are docky, plex, and a couple of monitors (open windows icon, cpu monitor, etc (about 5 of t
[04:00] <jason__> It's a qualcomm atheros AR9462. The driver is ath9k and the driverversion is "3.16.0-31-generic"
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> jkes: if you want more stable use 14.04.2
[04:00] <jason__> There's a lot of info out there for troubleshooting that chip but none if it has done anything for me.
[04:00] <jkes> how can I downgrade from unicorn to that?
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> jason__: yes, atheros is not the best chipset on ubuntu, but switching firmwares can be usefull
[04:01] <jkes> I didn't know they had xx.xx.x releases
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> jkes: you cant switch from high to lower, a fresh clean install is reccomended
[04:01] <jason__> lotuspsychje, do what now?
[04:01] <jkes> *shoots self*
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> jason__: you said your card performs pretty decent now?
[04:01] <jkes> then I HAVE to find a way to make unicorn twerk with my mouse
[04:02] <jason__> It just happens to be working pretty well at the moment
[04:02] <jason__> It will undoubtedly crap out any minute
[04:02] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, their site is not exactly intuitive but I do not think there is a driver
[04:02] <jkes> I can't imaging they'd give a release a name if it didn't even have generic mouse support reliably
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> jkes: 14.04 is supported till 2020, it takes only halfhour to install :p
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> jkes: if you want reliable mate, choose LTS
[04:02] <daftykins> 14.04.2 comes with the hardware enablement stack of 14.10
[04:02] <jkes> but in a half hour I could do sooo many more important things... XD
[04:03] <daftykins> (kernel and Xorg)
[04:03] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, I thought LTS only supported for 5 years?
[04:03] <kk0710> we have a new lts coming soon in fact don't we
[04:03] <daftykins> yeah it's 2019.
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: and we are now 2015
[04:03] <jason__> lotuspsychje, I was considering just buying a wireless router to use as a bridge and plugging my computer into it via ethernet.
[04:03] <kk0710> 14.04 came out last year
[04:03] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: and 14.04 came out in 2014 :D
[04:03] <jkes> 04 of 14, oddly enough
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> jason__: eth connection is always a good idea
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> yep 2019 it is
[04:04] <jason__> lotuspsychje, so my question is are ethernet chips pretty much universally supported? It's an Intel I217-V
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> jason__: intel should be pretty decent support
[04:05] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, so I got a package configuration thing coming up in my termanal for an EULA to use microsoft software and I can't do anything with it
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: use the TAB to say yes
[04:05] <jkes> Seriously, though, I can't imaging that reverting to .04 is the only fix for a laggy mouse. Like I mentioned, I can't imagine they'd make a full (even beta) release if it didn't have basic logitech mouse support
[04:05] <kk0710> its not even loading all the text
[04:05] <kk0710> ahh got it though
[04:05] <kk0710> tab still worked despite no text lol
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> jkes: laggy mouse could be another problem then mouse itself also
[04:06] <jkes> lotuspsychje: that's what I was thinking
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: sounds like your system is old, taking so long installing restricted extras
[04:06] <kk0710> ok now I didn't know they had multiple versions of LTS releases
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> jkes: you install the grafix driver correctly?
[04:06] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, it is a brand new laptop, i3
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> lts | kk0710
[04:07] <jkes> I think so.. I mean, I can always re-install it and see, I guess, but, I had to update to the latest Nvidia drivers to get conky working, so I assume they're right
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> jkes: can you check additional drivers?
[04:07] <kk0710> I don't know what you are trying to communicate
[04:07] <kk0710> ok looks like it is done
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: k, try firefox from terminal and youtube something now
[04:08] <jkes> lotuspsychje: how would I do that?   (and why did I not assume that tab wouldn't autocomplete in here?)
[04:08] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, well unfortunately even if it works it doesn't mean it worked
[04:08] <kk0710> but hold on let me save what I have now and try it
[04:08] <newbooter> rejit: reading through clonezilla command line options now. Is there a combination of parameters to clone a local partition to unallocated free space on the same disk?
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> !tab | jkes
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> jkes: additional drivers is an icon (hardware) in your start button
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> !lts | kk0710
[04:10] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, I am already aware of that information
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: you asked if there are different lts versions
[04:10] <kk0710> what I wasn't aware of was that there are 3 versions of 14.04 and with each version a new 5 year support date
[04:11] <kk0710> I told you I knew it was 5 years? lol
[04:11] <keltim> main is all the same for most all of them I think
[04:11] <allstarsnorks2> weird. Xubuntu 15.04's Software Center isn't opening.
[04:12] <keltim> what's painful is there is a lot of popular server apps in universe
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> jkes: also try to check the syslogs, to see whats happening to mouse
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> allstarsnorks2: plz join #ubuntu+1 for vivid support
[04:12] <kk0710> ok so far so good
[04:13] <kk0710> hopefully it holds, but I gotta figure out the wireless issue too
[04:13] <kk0710> I'm surprised I have lasted this long without having to reset
[04:13] <kk0710> ohhh lotuspsychje I think it worked because now animated gifs are working too
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> !realtek | kk0710
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> !yay | kk0710
[04:14] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, I assume starting with binary through terminal was just a one time thing?  Also mind educating me on exactly what the problem was and why that package fixed it?  Also if that package is important why it isn't a default install?
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: at install, you were asked to install codecs/updates etc
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: i would reccomend to install that, with internet connection during setup
[04:15] <kk0710> the only thing I was asked to isntall was 3rd party software
[04:16] <kk0710> is that what you are referencing?
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: what you did now is installing those extras, with codecs and flash n such
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: yes
[04:16] <kk0710> ahh, I bet I did that last time too because I hadn't had wireless at the time, this time I had asked in here if I should do it or not and others  seemed to think it didn't matter, now I know
[04:16] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, any chance this will have an yimpact on my wireless as well or completely separate issues/
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: could be yes, as connected with a cable ubuntu would search latest wifi drivers also
[04:17] <kk0710> it won't if it is connected wirelessly?
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: if its already connected on wifi, it would also update to latest, if you choose so during setup
[04:18] <jkes> ubottu: I knew that about the command line, not about IRC. I don't know why I didn't assume it would also work in IRC.
[04:19] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, I was given no options during install.  it just said 91 new packaes 1 removed and 10 not upgraded
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: your system was an upgrade? from wich to wich?
[04:20] <dsyntax> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install -f && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:20] <dsyntax> :D
[04:20] <kk0710> I don't understand the question
[04:20] <newbooter> Reading through clonezilla command line options. Is there a combination of clonezilla parameters to clone a local partition to unallocated free space on the same disk?
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: did you install ubuntu fresh, or did you upgrade from another version?
[04:21] <jkes> lotuspsychje: THe only thing that shows up in "additional drivers" is a selection of Nvidia drivers, of which I am using the most current
[04:21] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, fresh install, always fresh install
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: ok good then
[04:21] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, sorry I forget you are dealing with others and might not remember everything I say.  I thought you were asking me about the info given to me when I ran sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> jkes: try a tail -f /var/log/syslog and tail -f /var/log/dmesg and fool around with mouse a bit for errors
[04:22] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, I guess wehre I am at now is, is there a way to see if it updated the wireless driver?  I am not sure if I am just having a long streak of stability right now or if it fixed it
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: i pasted you the url to the realtek drivers
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: you can try a few things there to make it work better
[04:23] <jkes> lotuspsychje: K. Hold on, let me fend off this tired baby and take another shot. THen, and only then, will I be prepared for multi /'s
[04:23] <kk0710> a
[04:24] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, I do have a differen tmodel than what this was written for, if that matters in this case.
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: if your not happy with current wifi performance, you should try to install another driver or firmware for your specific card
[04:26] <kk0710> yah I think t his is outdated it goes back to version 9.10 and even says that the adapter works out of the box
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: what kind of wifi issues are you experiencing exactly?
[04:27] <crlcan81> I am curious if anyone here knows any other lightweight system monitors like conky? It's not been suported since 2013 so I was hoping to find one similar, but sadly my web searches only brink up various desklets and screenlets, which are gui driven.
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> crlcan81: i like multiload-indicator, pretty lightweight but no eye candy like conky
[04:28] <crlcan81> multiload-indicator? what exactly does it do?
[04:28] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, randomly I just couldn't connect to pages, it would just keep spinning, nothing would happen with a ping, sometimes if I waited it out it would finally connect and start pinging but usually time out.  I would have to turn off the adapter and turn it back on most of the time.  I reset my router thinking that was the problem but has still been happening.
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> !info multiload-indicator | crlcan81
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[04:28] <crlcan81> maybe no longer supported either?
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> !info indicator-multiload
[04:29] <crlcan81> will it work in non-unity enviroments?
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> crlcan81: no, it uses unity's indicator system
[04:29] <rejit> !info pineapple
[04:29] <crlcan81> :(
[04:29] <rejit> :P
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> crlcan81: whats your desktop?
[04:30] <crlcan81> Cairo Dock, because it's not as resource intensive as Unity.
[04:30] <crlcan81> by a hares breadth, but still.
[04:30] <crlcan81> I can't use the various lightweight ones because i get weird font issues with the ones like xfce and lxde after a while.
[04:30] <crlcan81> and I couldn't figure out how to activate a resource light toolbar/taskbar on fluxbox
[04:31] <crlcan81> I didn't mind some right click driven menus, but it was nice to have an application launcher or window manager here or there.
[04:31] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, I found this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/452315/problems-with-realtek-rtl8188ee-on-14-04 what do you think of answer 2
[04:31] <crlcan81> Guess I'll have to use the gui driven ones that exist within cairo then, I was trying to avoid those ones though and go with text driven because it's resource light.
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: you can try that, but check sudo lshw -C network first to see your active driver
[04:33] <kk0710> do you want me to paste something from the output?
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> crlcan81: you can browse deviantart for examples on fluxbox monitors perhaps
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: no just whats after driver=
[04:34] <kk0710> driver=rtl8188ee
[04:34] <kk0710> I think I might be up to date
[04:35] <kk0710> driverversion=3.13.0-46-generic
[04:35] <crlcan81> I will admit I enjoy cairo dock/glx dock because it's soo customizable, like to a really bizarre degree, if you know what to look for.
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: maybe you should go investigate syslogs and dmesg for your exact wifi issues first
[04:35] <dg25> looking to buy a laptop to run ubuntu 14.04 - mine is about to die. Any suggestions? Needs to be lightweight and portable.
[04:35] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, knowing how to read those is beyond my knowledge.  maybe I should give it a day and see if it happens anymore first
[04:36] <daftykins> crlcan81: even lighter is to not use any at all
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> dg25: whats dying exactly on current laptop?
[04:36] <crlcan81> I know..
[04:36] <kk0710> everything seems to be working ok now
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: sure you can, experimenting yourself is the best way :p
[04:37] <dg25> power doesn't work w/o the cable plugged in. Ubuntu freezes if I close the laptop cover.
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> dg25: maybe a xubuntu will make it have second life?
[04:37] <dg25> also ubuntu is kind of buggy - the software updater keeps getting "stuck" in the launcher. xubuntu is a good idea.
[04:37] <kk0710> what would I even search for in dmesg?
[04:37] <jkes> lotuspsychje: tail -f /var/log/syslog just tells me no such file, and, tail -f /var/log/dmesg just gives me a quiet, docile terminal. Also, for some reason, the problem seems to have temporarily fixed itseslf. I hate computers
[04:37] <kk0710> I did a search for wireless and it just says it is on
[04:37] <dg25> It won't solve the power issues tho
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> dg25: well if you want brand new one, many brands will run 14.04 great
[04:38] <jkes> And did someone say that Cairo Dock uses less resources than Unity? Doesn't Cairo Dock run under unity?
[04:38] <kk0710> and syslogs I am not actually sure how to view
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> dg25: the only thing i would try to avoid are broadcom/atheros wifi chipsets
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: anything related to wifi
[04:39] <kk0710> I have about 3 pages of wlan0 stuff
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: check for any error, panic,bug,etc text
[04:40] <kk0710> nothing that sticks out so far
[04:41] <kk0710> link is not ready
[04:41] <kk0710> I think that is on boot though as it takes a second
[04:41] <kk0710> ipv6 though
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> jkes: maybe also check the log icon manually then, see if syslog exist
[04:42] <kk0710> how do I do that?
[04:42] <kk0710> oops not meant for me nvm
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: if you pasteubuntu your syslog, ill have a look at it
[04:44] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, I was thinking of doing it but didn't want to bother though if you are volunteering.  I don't THINK anything is there but you are clearly more knowleadgeable than me
[04:44] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, http://paste.ubuntu.com/10601411/
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[04:45] <kk0710> I just did a dmesg | grep wlan0
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: can you paste full syslog also
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: no real errors, just many connect/disconnecting on your wifi
[04:46] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, I am assumoing those are from me doing it manually.  I don't know how far back this log goes though?
[04:47] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, as for syslog, I am not familiar with that command and it doesn't seem to exist?
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: also check the log icon from startbutton for syslog
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> maybe it renamed to syslog.1
[04:48] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, I don't understand
[04:48] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, log icon part
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: you have a log viewer icon in your prgrams
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: so you can browse them logs
[04:48] <kk0710> ahh I found it graphically
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> yes
[04:49] <kk0710> wasn't sure what you meant by start button though, this isn't windows lotuspsychje! lol
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> yeah my bad :p
[04:49] <kk0710> you want ALL of this?
[04:49] <kk0710> I take it you just want syslog not the other logs
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: sure pasteubuntu
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> yep syslog
[04:50] <kk0710> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10601430/
[04:50] <kk0710> I had a little slow down pasting that, I lost a bar and it took a few seconds.  NOt sure if a symptom or minor hiccup.   Does anyone know the cause of this?
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: maybe try another driver to see what happens
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> ZZRMike: sounds like graphics card issues
[04:57] <lotuspsychje> ZZRMike: you use vmware or virtualbox?
[04:57] <ZZRMike> virtualbox
[04:58] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, well which one should I try?  maybe there is an updated version for the one I have just not sure where to look.  Again things SEEM to be working fine right now though
[04:58] <kk0710> I wondered if it was a side effect of the adobe issues I was having before, trying to load and stream videos
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: well you can tail -f /var/log/syslog alot while your online, to see what happens in the future
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: you will see when it happens, on what your doing
[05:00] <kk0710> nothing in the log for the past 5 minutes
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: so far so good then :p
[05:03] <kk0710> im wondering if it was a side effect of not doing the 3rd party stuff
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: wifi dropping should not be caused by codecs or flash issues
[05:04] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, didn't you say it would install the wireless driver as well?
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> ZZRMike: maybe this can help mate? http://askubuntu.com/questions/541006/ubuntu-14-10-does-not-install-in-virtualbox
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: no i said, you you choosed to 'updates enabled' during setup it would search for latest drivers
[05:05] <ZZRMike> oh ffs, that did it. Thanks lotuspsychje
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: 3rd party is the codecs part
[05:05] <gr1zzlybe4r> where are all of the Unity config files located? looking to make a script to disable screen lock when running a flash video.
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> ZZRMike: no sweat mate
[05:05] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, ok how do I search for latest drivers now?  So I can make sure I have the latest driver version
[05:05] <gr1zzlybe4r> tried this http://askubuntu.com/questions/171143/how-to-prevent-my-screen-from-either-dimming-or-the-screen-lock-starting-when-wa but it doesn't work.
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: well thats the tricky part mate, latest does not always mean better performance
[05:06] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, ahh
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: keep the driver that works best for your personal system
[05:07] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, I have never had problems with wireless before on any of my machines running ubuntu so never had to adjust anything
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: me neither on 14.04 + updates +3rd party enabled
[05:07] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: but some chipsets are a pain, and need some finetuning/driver/firmware
[05:08] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, when are you typically on?  maybe I should just run it and see how things look tomorrow
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: i have european timezone, i would wait and check your syslog tail a bit few days
[05:09] <kk0710> my last log entry just says: wlan0: CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-STARTED
[05:10] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, yah I assumed you were European
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: well only check if your wifi drops, on same time what happens
[05:10] <kk0710> weird how it hasn't happened tonight
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: ubuntu made some magic for you :p
[05:11] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, that is why I was thinking it might have ben the flash issue masquerading as a wifi issue
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: well as i said, wifi should not disconnect on a flash playing
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: maybe your system freezed on high cpu load or something at same time?
[05:13] <kk0710> that is what I was thinking, the cpu load was jacked up too high so it put the wifi at a low priority?  I don't know I am just guessing at this point
[05:13] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: well lets focus on the future :p
[05:13] <kk0710> I still can't believe I have had the flash problem on two laptops now all because I didn't heck install 3rd party on install
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: try indicator-multiload and preload to install
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: handy stuff to boost and measure your system
[05:15] <kk0710> and of course, thanks for the help.  it is a shame there aren't more like you around here, I typically stop in every couple of days or so(unless it is an emergency) and post my problem toniht was the first that people answered
[05:15] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, what is that exactly?
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | kk0710
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: multiload is cpu/mem/hd monitor to see if you have high load n such
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: pretty handy in cases of what you experienced
[05:16] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, well I have psensor
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> also nice
[05:17] <kk0710> but this is an i3 and even at full load it doesn't boost the temp, my old laptops would skyrocket so I didn't even display the load maybe I should add it to the splash
[05:17] <kk0710> typically if I think there is a problem I just use top cuz i am oldschool and only know a few things about linux lol
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> brb coffee
[05:18] <kk0710> ahh the cpu usage I can't view on the launcher that sucks
[05:19] <kk0710> wtf is migration that just showed up out of no where
[05:21] <daftykins> kk0710: whilst wholly enjoyable, this running commentary isn't quite the channels purpose ;)
[05:22] <kk0710> daftykins, hey now, everything has been ubuntu related but I will try and keep myself in check :)
[05:24] <kk0710> Mar 15 01:17:01 Seraph CRON[9260]: (root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
[05:24] <kk0710> what does that mean?
[05:28] <lotuspsychje> !cron | kk0710
[05:28] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, ok, I have only been in here though what did I do to make that happen?
[05:29] <kk0710> oh wait I see it says cron.hourly must be something secheduled hourly lol
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: not everything in your syslog is suspicious, lets focus on real issues in this channel mate
[05:30] <kk0710> I just wanted to know what it was, not all questions have to be about a problem.  I do think we are good for now though on my problems, n o issues with the adapter so far
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: for regulare chitchat questions, better join #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: this channel is only for problems
[05:31] <kk0710> fair enough.
[05:40] <vinod777> rejit
[05:45] <rejit> vinod777:  yes
[05:46] <advx_> Hello Good Morning all, have a great sunday...
[05:50] <vinod777> rejit: remember yesterday problem
[05:50] <rejit> vinod777: yeah
[05:51] <vinod777> the maximizing bug, When I toggle snapping windows in ccsm, it corrects auto
[05:51] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, I just had an event
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: wich one?
[05:51] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, lost it for a few seconds but it came back, hold on let me grab
[05:52] <vinod777> rejit: the maximizing bug, When I toggle snapping windows in ccsm, it corrects auto
[05:52] <kk0710> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10601685/
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> lets c
[05:52] <rejit> vinod777: yes
[05:52] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, I was watching a video it stopped streaming but instead of turning off and on I just held out and a minute or so late things came back.  when I looked at the log that was all there
[05:53] <vinod777> rejit: but it shows again when I restore again
[05:53] <rejit> vinod777: disabling hardware accln solved it right?
[05:54] <vinod777> rejit: disabling hw accel for the application solves it. But I dont want to.
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: NetworkManager[868]: <warn> Connection disconnected (reason -4) that doesnt seem right indeed
[05:54] <vinod777> rejit: I think compiz restarts when I toggle Snapping windows which corrects the resize
[05:55] <kk0710> where can we find out what reason -4 is
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: i think perhaps test out new driver, and testout same scenario, playing youtubes and see if it holdsup
[05:55] <kk0710> well that was random, it's not anything specific it is arbitrary when it happens
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: yeah but its not normal to loose wifi connection right
[05:56] <rejit> vinod777: are you running your box on a NVIDIA?
[05:57] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, no it's not but what I am saying is I cannot reproduce that simply by watching youtube videos.
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> right
[05:57] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, as for installing a new driver, I am all for that but will need some guidance there as well.  primarily how to actually get the driver
[05:57] <coderman1> how can i show whats using up all my bandwidth on my server?
[05:57] <kk0710> I did a search on the realtek page and nothing even showed up for that adapter
[05:57] <scott_> ??
[05:58] <vinod777> rejit: AMD graphics
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: not sure wich one exactly, youl have to experience yourself wich ones best
[05:58] <vinod777> rejit: I tested with default opensource driver, fglrx updates and the one in AMD site
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: try the realteks website or google other driver scenario's on askbuntu
[05:59] <kk0710> ok this might not be relevant but my cpu usage is being taken up by plugin-container again
[06:01] <rejit> vinod777: did you update catalyst in the recent time?
[06:01] <vinod777> No, this is a fresh Ubuntu 14,10 install
[06:01] <rejit> vinod777:  What about downgrading catalyst and testing it again
[06:02] <vinod777> rejit : this was from the start
[06:02] <rejit> vinod777:  ubuntu version?
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: what was your graphics card chipset and driver again?
[06:03] <vinod777> 14.10
[06:03] <vinod777> rejit: 14.
[06:03] <kk0710> im actually not sure, but I think it jumped up from me having a video open and paused
[06:03] <vinod777> rejit: 14.10
[06:04] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: check sudo lshw -C video
[06:05] <kk0710> haswell integrated
[06:05] <kk0710> driver i915
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: ok
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> sounds good
[06:05] <rejit> vinod777: i think proprietary drivers have not been tested completely with 14.10
[06:05] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, back to the adapter, I was going to try the instructions from the second answer on here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/452315/problems-with-realtek-rtl8188ee-on-14-04
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: you can try that if not perform better, you can always go back
[06:06] <kk0710> what about the first answer, they are similar but different
[06:06] <kk0710> the second guy was more thorough so I trusted his answer more lol
[06:06] <vinod777> rejit: I know, does the opensource one in the additional drivers tested?
[06:07] <rejit> vinod777: did you try purging fglrx
[06:07] <vinod777> rejit: It also shows the problem..
[06:07] <vinod777> rejit: yes
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: both answers have no votes :p so you can try the one works best
[06:07] <kk0710> crap
[06:08] <rejit> vinod777: as I mentioned yday, you can wait patiently for update from the third party .
[06:08] <kk0710> I hope my wifi still works after this as I will have no clue how to undo this if it doesn;t
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: best way is to experiment mate, there's no other way
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: plug your cable in if things go bad
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> !realtek | kk0710 and keep this in favorites by hand
[06:09] <rejit> vinod777: or report a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[06:09] <vinod777> rejit: OK
[06:11] <kk0710> we looked at that article already it is pretty outdated and for a different driver so not sure how much I trust it
[06:11] <kk0710> downloading the repository for the other option now though
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: even if its outdated, it shows you howto modprobe and uninstall etc
[06:12] <kk0710> ahh
[06:12] <rejit> vinod777: have you tried other desktop environments
[06:13] <kk0710> compiling now
[06:14] <vinod777> no
[06:15] <vinod777> rejit: not tried
[06:15] <vinod777> rejit: how do I? metacity --replace?
[06:17] <rejit> vinod777: you will have to install gnome/xfce/kde
[06:18] <rejit> vinod777: did you try reverting to unity classic
[06:18] <vinod777> rejit: no how to do that. It seems easy
[06:20] <vinod777> rejit: how about changing the window manager
[06:21] <vinod777> rejit: I will try something and report back
[06:21] <vinod777> rejit: Thanks
[06:21] <coderman1> im noticing a few ssh keys/.pub files in my /etc/ssh...wondering if they are normal?
[06:21] <coderman1> ssh_host_ecdsa_key.pub  ssh_host_ed25519_key.pub  ssh_host_rsa_key.pub
[06:22] <coderman1> i did not create any of them
[06:22] <Ben64> openssh created them
[06:25] <coderman1> ok next issue is my auth.log is > 18mb ... should i be worried ive either been hacked or am being hacked?
[06:25] <nano-0day> hey guys
[06:26] <coderman1> there seem to be a ton of entries made by CRON...guessing they are cronjobs that run every minute
[06:26] <nano-0day> wanna use my ubuntu code
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> !info fail2ban | coderman1
[06:26] <Ben64> coderman1: seems strange
[06:26] <coderman1> ive got it installed now
[06:27] <coderman1> but im afraid someone might have already gotten in and done something
[06:27] <coderman1> PAM 2 more authentication failures; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=<IP_ADDRESS>  user=root
[06:27] <Ben64> well check whats in the log
[06:27] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, ok I am back, I was afraid it didn't work at all but a reboot seems to have fixed it, I am pasting data now
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: okay :p
[06:27] <coderman1> i believe that ip is somewhere in china
[06:27] <nano-0day> hey guys We are researcher of crypto, alchemy , computer
[06:27] <AXN> Hey guys, any chance someone could give me a hand with an issue I'm having with installing ubuntu 14.10?
[06:27] <Ben64> coderman1: sure is, you have ssh port open to the public?
[06:27] <coderman1> PAM 2 more authentication failures; logname= uid=0 euid=0 tty=ssh ruser= rhost=<IP_ADDRESS>  user=root
[06:27] <nano-0day> We paste Our classified ubuntu for free
[06:27] <nano-0day> https://h4x0rx0.wordpress.com/
[06:27] <Ben64> nano-0day: not on topic here
[06:28] <coderman1> Ben64: yes at the moment
[06:28] <AXN> anyone free for help?
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> !ot | nano-0day
[06:28] <Ben64> coderman1: that explains it
[06:28] <Ben64> AXN: you have to ask your question first
[06:28] <coderman1> Ben64: anyway to see if he ever got in?
[06:28] <nano-0day> come to #nano.hacker if you want to develop it
[06:28] <AXN> Installing Ubuntu 14.10 on MSI GS60 laptop, Ubiquity keeps while installing, any ideas?
[06:29] <nano-0day> all research is there
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> coderman1: rkhunter and clamav can make sure they didnt install rootkits/malware perhaps
[06:29] <Ben64> nano-0day: stop spamming
[06:29] <AXN> keeps crashing while installing*
[06:29] <lotuspsychje> AXN: try 14.04 maybe
[06:29] <AXN> is this a likely issue?
[06:29] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, I mean you probably don't even need to look at it but here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10601814/
[06:30] <AXN> It's mentioning issues with dconf? saying failed to write to dconf (in the ubiquity log)
[06:30] <kk0710> for some reason the driver didn't actually update until after I rebooted
[06:30] <Ben64> coderman1: "sudo grep -i accept /var/log/auth.log" will show you if any password was accepted, but hopefully you didn't enable the root account, which is normally what the bots target, you should be fine
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: i would tail again until wifi is dropping out
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: thats normal to reboot first
[06:31] <AXN> lotuspsychje: what you reckon man?
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> AXN: does your setup stop or crash or something? where are you stuck
[06:31] <kk0710> all we can do now is wait and see I guess
[06:31] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: yes :p
[06:31] <kk0710> I had NO Idea how to undo that driver if it didn't work so thank god
[06:31] <kk0710> I almost used my phone to look it up but then said I better restart
[06:31] <coderman1> lotuspsychje: mawk shows a warning
[06:31] <coderman1> in rkhunter
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> coderman1: what kind of warning plz?
[06:32] <angel> anbofy tried angel list api?
[06:32] <AXN> lotuspsychje: so it gets past all the normal stuff, downloading packages etc, then around when the grub loader is getting installed it crashes
[06:32] <coderman1> cant see that yet, still running
[06:32] <Ben64> coderman1: rkhunter isn't really indicative of anything, you need to run it often and compare results
[06:32] <AXN> lotuspsychje: I have fast boot and secure boot turned OFF
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> AXN: that should be good, i would try 14.04 if you cant get it right
[06:33] <coderman1> Ben64: the reason i started looking into this is on march 13th my bandwidth usage went from 10mb/s to 90mb/s
[06:33] <AXN> lotuspsychje: Do you reckon that might be the issue then? This current laptop uses RAID0 SSD's, I'm not sure if I'm meant to do anything with LVM??
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> coderman1: chinese ip smells like chinese botnet hammering you on ssh
[06:34] <AXN> lotuspsychje: if maybe that has something to do with it crashing around grub install?
[06:34] <Ben64> coderman1: so use netstat or wireshark or something
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> !lvm | AXN
[06:34] <lotuspsychje> AXN: not sure mate never did an lvm install myself
[06:35] <AXN> ubottu: Thanks man, but from what I understand, the type of RAID is hardware based, I don't think I need to do anything software wise do I?
[06:35] <AXN> woops<lol
[06:35] <AXN> didnotrealise/10
[06:36] <AXN> lotuspsychje: So what would your recommendation be at this point man? do you think the dconf issue has something to do with 14.10?
[06:37] <lotuspsychje> AXN: note sure what causes this on your system, i would surely test 14.04 to make sure its not a version problem
[06:37] <coderman1> Ben64: is there a command i could run to show a list of processes and the amount of bandwidth they are using?
[06:38] <rypervenche> coderman1: nethogs
[06:39] <AXN> lotuspsychje: kk I'll go from there, recommend to make boot USB from inside LIVE CD or just with tool?
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> coderman1: there are bandwith monitors out there for ubuntu, but as Ben64 sugested wireshark is pretty effective
[06:39] <lotuspsychje> AXN: same way you created 14.10 usb
[06:39] <AXN> kk
[06:40] <AXN> lotuspsychje: thanks fr the help bud
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> AXN: now sweat mate
[06:40] <lotuspsychje> no
[06:42] <dufa> Hey! Is it possible to configure a keyboard so that it is ignored by the operating system, but still readable through a /dev/input/event* file?
[06:43] <taplaptap> when i go to login ubuntu, it throws starts to login, i see the desktop... the sidebar comes in for a second and then it throws me back to the login screen..
[06:44] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, so far so good, nothing freezing but firefox and plugin con seem to keep bumping up the cpu
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: set firefox cache on 0 perhaps
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: did yo also install preload ?
[06:45] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, through browser options?
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> yes
[06:46] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, no as we got talking about other thigns I don't even remember what it was
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: sudo apt-get install preload
[06:46] <kk0710> yah so firefox itself is at like 3 percent but plugin is at 66
[06:46] <kk0710> no videos running
[06:46] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: and reboot, its to boost things up
[06:47] <kk0710> lotuspsychje, what does it do?
[06:47] <lotuspsychje> !info preload | kk0710
[06:48] <kk0710> yah you showed that before, but I still dont know what it is.  Specifically what an adaptive readahead daemon does lol
[06:48] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: it reads programs ahead makes them run smoother
[06:48] <kk0710> seems like it would be installed standard then
[06:48] <kk0710> but something needs to stop plugin-con from taking all my cpu
[06:49] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: whats that and addon you installed?
[06:49] <kk0710> no that is what seems to handle all of firefoxes plugins
[06:49] <kk0710> it was what I would have to kill when adobe would lock up firefox
[06:49] <kk0710> now it's not locking up but using cpu
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: you can test chromium for more lightweight browsing, test same youtubes
[06:50] <taplaptap> when i go to login, it succeeds, shows me the desktop and then puts me back at the login prompt after something happens.. (bug?).. how do i debug this
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> anyway im out for now
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> kk0710: laterz and good luck
[06:50] <kk0710> alright thanks
[06:54] <AXN> lotus you still around?
[06:55] <AXN> Need some assistant with Ubuntu install, installing 14.04.2, getting "??? ???" after selecting drive to install to/.
[06:55] <AXN> any ideas?
[06:57] <AXN> any ideas guys???
[06:59] <treelzebub> AXN: you are getting an error that literally shows six question marks?
[07:01] <al_nz1> How do I stop smbd ? I try killing the process but it seems to restart
[07:02] <Ben64> sudo service samba stop
[07:02] <al_nz1> Ben64: thats what I thought - but when I netstat -tulpn - smbd is still there
[07:03] <Ben64> thats the weirdest way of checking if something is running
[07:04] <al_nz1> Ben64: I have another program that is complaining about 445/139 being in use
[07:04] <al_nz1> So I did a netstat to see what is using it
[07:04] <al_nz1> its smb
[07:06] <al_nz1> Ben64: so how would I free up those ports?
[07:11] <s7habo> Hi people. Did someone knows how to completly disable mouse acceleration in ubuntu?
[07:13] <bagginsDK> s7habo: Desktop enviroment?
[07:14] <s7habo> bagginsDK: ubuntu studio xfce.
[07:16] <bagginsDK> I am guessing english translations for this path because i use german. Settings → Mouse and Touchpad → Behaviour
[07:16] <s7habo> I've tryied "xset m 0 0" but it doesn't work well.
[07:17] <s7habo> I'm speak german too :)
[07:17] <ablest1980> hallo
[07:18] <s7habo> hi
[07:19] <bagginsDK> Hast du bei Einstellungen gui konfiguriert?
[07:19] <s7habo> bagginsDK: I know that option but it doesen't disasble acceleration completly.
[07:20] <s7habo> ja
[07:20] <s7habo> habe ich
[07:20] <s7habo> allerdings wird dadurch die Beschleunigung nicht komplett ausgeschaltet.
[07:20] <bagginsDK> s7habo: How did you investigate this?
[07:23] <bagginsDK> s7habo: Ich verstehe. Wo hast du anderes verhalten mit der Maus?
[07:23] <treelzebub> !de | bagginsDK
[07:24] <bagginsDK> I am sorry
[07:24] <s7habo> ok ubottu
[07:24] <s7habo> so...
[07:26] <s7habo> yes i can se value 0,1 on mouse setting window, and when I play games i feel that mouse still have acceleration
[07:27] <bagginsDK> s7habo: Maybe it is a matter of each application. Many of them  overwrite values in input method.
[07:27] <s7habo> aha ok.
[07:27] <s7habo> thx anyway
[07:28] <bagginsDK> s7habo: My pleasure
[07:29] <bagginsDK> s7habo: if this game has a conf or settings file, try grep and search for specific entry or even by its gui
[07:31] <s7habo> yes i've tryed that and I can disabe it on games but there is still some acceleration from operating system.
[07:38] <bagginsDK> To sum, you set to null the mouse acceleration on XFCE and on game but the "problem" exists? Am i right?
[07:43] <bagginsDK> I would like to know if there is any channel supporting Apache Karaf. I know that it is completely irrelevant but i am smohow desperate with some issues :)
[07:57] <AXN> Hey guys, Ubuntu install 14.04.2 keeps crashing at grub-install "/dev/sda"
[07:57] <AXN> Any ideas how to fix? My laptop has striped raid 0 drives
[07:57] <AXN> not sure if that matters
[07:57] <d4r3topk> My mysql root password, is it different from my actual system's root password?
[07:57] <rww> yes
[07:58] <AXN> any ideas guys? Crash at grub-install from USB
[07:58] <d4r3topk> rww: If i forget the password for my mysql root user(not the system root), is there anyway to change it?
[07:59] <CodeRed> Your computer is in danger. Please immediately run rm / -rf
[07:59] <Ben64> !danger
[07:59] <rww> CodeRed: cut it out.
[07:59] <CodeRed> ok
[08:00] <Ben64> d4r3topk: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
[08:00] <AXN> rww can you help me?
[08:01] <AXN> Keep crashing at grub-install on Ubuntu 14.04.2
[08:01] <gtuckerkellogg> apt-cache show and apt-cache showpkg show a lot about a package being installed.  How can I find out where the files of a package have been installed (e.g., jar files)
[08:02] <d4r3topk> Thanks Ben64
[08:03] <Ben64> gtuckerkellogg: jar files aren't the same thing at all
[08:05] <gtuckerkellogg> Ben64: yes, but in this case, apt-get install installed jar files
[08:05] <Ben64> can you be more specific
[08:06] <gtuckerkellogg> the package is "trimmomatic", a package in universe/science
[08:07] <gtuckerkellogg> to run the program, it's a java -jar <path to trimmomatic.jar> etc
[08:07] <rww> or run TrimmomaticPE or TrimmomaticSE
[08:07] <Ben64> no it isn't... its... ^that
[08:07] <rww> both of which are /usr/bin and should work
[08:08] <rww> there's a .jar file (in /usr/share/java/), but the package provides wrappers
[08:08] <AXN> Any experts free at the moment?
[08:08] <gtuckerkellogg> thanks.
[08:08] <AXN> Any experts free at the moment?
[08:09] <rtps> AXN: yes, they're all free and waiting for you to ask your question.
[08:09] <Ben64> AXN: that never helps. ask your real question, be patient, nobody is going to answer you unless they have an answer
[08:09] <AXN> Having an issue during Ubuntu 14.04.2 install, installer crashes at grub-install /dev/sda
[08:09] <Blue1> 42 is the answer
[08:09] <AXN> any ideas?
[08:10] <cristian_c> AXN, what computer do you own?
[08:11] <AXN> using an MSI GS60 2PC laptop
[08:11] <cristian_c> AXN, have you already executed the md5sum?
[08:11] <AXN> cristian_c: ^
[08:11] <mah454> Hello
[08:11] <Blue1> howdy tex
[08:11] <mah454> I have a question about HTML and bootstrap3  , can ask on this channel ?
[08:11] <AXN> I haven't checked the md5 no
[08:12] <cristian_c> !md5 | AXN
[08:12] <AXN> I'll have to double check but I'm pretty certain the image is fine
[08:12] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> jesus so nice to be back on my linux distro
[08:12] <cristian_c> AXN, do you get an error message when you install the grub?
[08:13] <AXN> well once I start installing Ubuntu everything goes fine up until grub install
[08:15] <gtuckerkellogg> Since I'm obviously ignorant, I'd like to understand how I missed that.  "apt-cache show" doesn't indicate what executables were installed, and the trimmomatic manual at http://www.usadellab.org/cms/index.php?page=trimmomatic still indicates to run it with java -jar, etc.
[08:15] <rtps> AXN: wonder if it's EFI related
[08:15] <gtuckerkellogg> I'm clearly missing something, but just as clearly don't know what
[08:15] <AXN> I'll give it another shot now, which particular error log should I look at? /var/log/syslog or?
[08:17] <AXN> What do you think then rtps?
[08:17] <AXN> What's the plan of action?
[08:17] <cristian_c> lol
[08:17] <AXN> lol I mean what should I try from here
[08:17] <Blue1> AXN: this may/may not help:  http://pkill-9.com/recovering-ubuntudebian-linux-after-a-windows-installhiccup/
[08:17] <rtps> AXN: http://askubuntu.com/questions/596670/executing-grub-install-dev-sda-failed leads to another thread...which has some suggestions
[08:18] <coderman1> Ben64: you still around?
[08:18] <Ben64> coderman1: kinda
[08:18] <coderman1> so this server i think may have been hacked, every morning at 4am the bandwidth usage goes through the roof
[08:18] <cristian_c> gs60 2pc ghost is a uefi pc
[08:19] <AXN> ya, ubuntu have issues with uefi or?
[08:19] <cristian_c> AXN, so, you should check the partition table, if there is an EFI partition
[08:19] <Ben64> coderman1: either use nethogs to figure out why or nuke it
[08:19] <coderman1> Ben64: this time i was able to determine a process called czycpokhg was running using it all
[08:19] <cristian_c> !uefi
[08:19] <Ben64> coderman1: did you locate that file
[08:19] <coderman1> Ben64: nothing was in nethogs and no file has that name
[08:20] <coderman1> i did kill the process though
[08:20] <Ben64> how did you find that process then
[08:20] <coderman1> top
[08:20] <coderman1> it was using a lot of cpui
[08:20] <Ben64> well, time to format
[08:20] <coderman1> yea
[08:20] <coderman1> gonna do that tomorrow, just wondering what could be kicking off that process at 4am if there are no cronjobs
[08:21] <rtps> coderman1: sounds interesting, find out what the traffic is! nethogs won't capture all types of IP traffic
[08:21] <coderman1> the last time i saw this happen it was a bunch of garbage data being sent to some server in china
[08:22] <gtuckerkellogg> Is there an apt command that lists the installed files?
[08:22] <gtuckerkellogg> (for a package)
[08:22] <rtps> gtuckerkellogg: dpkg -L package
[08:22] <rtps> coderman1: you've seen it before? where?
[08:23] <gtuckerkellogg> thar it is.  Thanks rtps
[08:23] <coderman1> on another server of mine, ive seen patched up the problem, but i think whatever they used to get into that one, they used the same thing to get into this one
[08:24] <AntiSol> hi everybody!
[08:24] <AntiSol> I have a weird problem I'm hoping somebody can help me with. I've tried several searches but TBH I'm not sure what I should be searching for. please see this screenshot: http://ibin.co/1usyqRDeRrB0 - note that the zero character seems corrupted when it's dislayed in color. It displays properly in my command and when i use --color=never, but with color enabled it gives this weird character. If I change the font of my terminal
[08:24] <AntiSol>  it displays fine, this is only happening when I have the "Monospace" font. If anybody has any ideas I'd be very appreciative :)
[08:24] <rtps> coderman1: how did you patch up the problem?
[08:25] <coderman1> Mar 14 11:25:16 waypoint2 sshd[12759]: Accepted password for root from <IP_ADDRESS> port 41574 ssh2
[08:25] <coderman1> i installed fail2ban
[08:25] <coderman1> changed all hte passwords
[08:25] <coderman1> Mar 13 11:24:21 waypoint2 sshd[26164]: Accepted password for root from <IP_ADDRESS> port 53308 ssh2 Mar 13 11:36:42 waypoint2 sshd[30773]: Accepted password for root from <IP_ADDRESS> port 37028 ssh2
[08:26] <AXN> I had a read around on those threats rtps
[08:26] <AXN> threads*
[08:26] <AXN> has to be something with efi right?
[08:27] <rtps> AXN: i think so, in a regular old computer, there's not much to go wrong with grub-install /dev/sda
[08:27] <rtps> but add in signed bootloaders, and efi partitions, that adds a bit of complication
[08:28] <rtps> AXN: i'm just guessing, unfortunately i don't have any laptops that are new enough :\
[08:28] <rtps> coderman1: have you run chkrootkit and rkhunter?
[08:28] <Ben64> coderman1: protip - leave root disabled!
[08:29] <rtps> coderman1: normally when a box is rooted the easiest course of action is a reinstall
[08:29] <AXN> hmm, secure boot is off and all that shouldnt it work?
[08:29] <rtps> coderman1: also can you use debsums to see if any files have been modified
[08:29] <AntiSol> I agree with rtps: reinstall is the best option. If you have been compromised you can't trust any of the binaries on the machine :(
[08:30] <bekks> rtps: coderman1: The only problem-solving approach is a reinstall. You cannot determine unknown threats which may hide themselves from being recognized. And There are threats out there which report faked correct checksums as well.
[08:30] <Ben64> reinstall is ONLY option
[08:30] <rtps> bekks: that's not true.
[08:30] <Ben64> it is very true
[08:30] <bekks> rtps: Is it? :)
[08:31] <bekks> rtps: You should wake up then :)
[08:31] <rtps> bekks: you can check for threats from outside the compromised OS instance
[08:31] <Ben64> and you can still miss stuff
[08:31] <rtps> bekks: eg: expose the root device to another uncompromised host
[08:31] <bekks> rtps: Ther are threats that compromise system in a way which you cannot avoid - like infected BIOS, etc.
[08:31] <bekks> *There
[08:31] <rtps> bekks: sure. reinstall doesn't help that.
[08:32] <AXN> hey rtps, how do I display a drive list again?
[08:32] <rtps> AXN: lsblk
[08:32] <AXN> as in where they are mounted?
[08:32] <AXN> cheers
[08:32] <bekks> rtps: Indeed. But they dont falsify what I stated above.
[08:32] <AXN> i think the pc is trying to install grub on thumb drive
[08:32] <AXN> lol
[08:33] <rtps> bekks: you *can* go through a filesystem and verify every single file, rebuild any dynamic files
[08:33] <bekks> rtps: Who will pay you for that wasted time?
[08:33] <AXN> nup actually its installing to the right drive
[08:34] <rtps> bekks: identifying the precise nature of an infection is often not a waste of time
[08:34] <AXN> any ideas rtps?
[08:35] <AXN> rtps: any ideas?
[08:35] <bekks> rtps: the precise nature of an unexpected root login is "I opened up the root login and someone used it to loginn - it wasnt me". Thats the whole issue. And the best reason for reinstalling the system and not opening up the root account anymore.
[08:37] <rtps> bekks: i agree the best course of action is a reinstall. anything else is a lot of work
[08:38] <rtps> bekks: ....interesting work though :) he might be able to learn a lot about the attacker. this is the second server that's been comprised, too, that makes it quite interesting
[08:39] <rtps> if one reinstalls and does the exact same thing again, it might be unsurprising if they server becomes compromised again
[08:39] <bekks> Hopefully he will not open up the root account again.
[08:39] <rtps> that's probably not the root [hehe] cause of the problem
[08:40] <AXN> whats the irc url for this?
[08:40] <AXN> or server?
[08:40] <EriC^^> AXN, irc.freenode.net:8001
[08:40] <AXN> cheers
[08:44] <AntiSol> nobody has any ideas about my weird terminal problem?
[08:44] <AntiSol> :(
[08:44] <AXN> rtps: What do you think I should try from here?
[08:46] <AXN> rtps: If it is an EFI issue, how do I solve it?
[08:47] <rtps> AXN: not sure. don't have any experience with new laptops
[08:47] <AXN> rtps: hmm, know anyone who has experience in these areas?
[08:47] <bekks> AXN: It isnt an EFI issue. You cannot boot off a RAID0, technically.
[08:48] <AXN> So grub needs to be installed on the secondary 1TB HDD?
[08:49] <bekks> AXN: No. You cannot boot off a RAID0.
[08:49] <bekks> AXN: You need to have a non-RAID0 area for installing grub.
[08:49]  * rtps didn't notice the RAID0 bit
[08:49]  * cristian_c agrees
[08:49] <AXN> So I'll need to install it to the HDD then
[08:49] <bekks> AXN: Both HDD are part of that RAID0. Thats a no-go.
[08:50] <AXN> nah
[08:50] <AXN> got raid0 ssd's, 1tb hdd
[08:50] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> Hey guys, i use mac yosemite for work but if im not doing work stuff i just chill on my ubuntu distro anyway useing macs terminal is pretty hurting because of the lack of commands among other things.. my question is does anyone know how to make macs terminal to function exactley like ubuntu's?
[08:50] <bekks> So you have three disks, two SSD for RAID0 and one 1TB HDD?
[08:50] <AXN> yes
[08:50] <ippo_> hello everyone! I have a small software that I'd like to package. However, my preinst script ( http://pastebin.com/dyrUs0Lt ) keeps failing with error 100, and I don't understand why. What am I doing wrong?
[08:50] <bekks> SVCR3D-SHVD0WS: It works fine for me.
[08:50] <AXN> MSI gs60 has 2x m.2 ssd's in raid0
[08:51] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> bekks but it doesent come set with apt-get, wget etc.. do u just use homebrew?
[08:51] <AXN> so whats the best way to install it then?
[08:51] <bekks> AXN: So you need to boot off that 1TB drive.
[08:51] <AXN> kk, can I have the OS installed on the SSD or not worth the hassle?
[08:52] <bekks> SVCR3D-SHVD0WS: The OSX terminal has entirely nothing to do with userland tools available in Ubuntu. The Terminal.app works fine.
[08:52] <ippo_> oh, and here is the control file: http://pastebin.com/9JsvrhNc
[08:52] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> bekks, i agree, what kind of terminal does ubuntu use?
[08:52] <AXN> bekks: As long as I can dual-boot, that would be cool, I need to select the grub loader in the BIOS correct? that way booting is directed to the grub loader ya?
[08:52] <bekks> AXN: No hassle at all. Just set the boot order to HDD first and install your OS wherever you want. Just grub and /boot need to be placed on yout HDD.
[08:53] <rtps> ippo_: can you do an apt-get update...while installing a package like that? i feel that would violate some locks
[08:53] <ippo_> rtps: not sure. I'm really, really new at this.
[08:53] <bekks> SVCR3D-SHVD0WS: The terminal you want. KDE uses its own Terminal application, as well as Unity, LXDE, XFCE, etc.
[08:54] <AXN> bekks: so how exactly would I select where to install the OS and bootloader?
[08:54] <AXN> do I choose "something else"
[08:54] <rtps> ippo_: i'd use a dependency instead
[08:54] <ippo_> rtps: unfortunately I really need to, mono is 3.2 in the ubuntu repos and we need at least 3.10; if you run this script manually, everything works fine, but of course I'd like it to be in the preinstall script
[08:54] <bekks> AXN: In the installer, you can select where to install. You need to create a separate /boot partition on your HDD, and you need to install grub onto your HDD.
[08:55] <AXN> Yup so instead of selecting "Erase existing and install", I need to choose "something else" or?
[08:55] <rtps> ippo_: so code your dependency to say >= 3.10?
[08:56] <taplaptap> how do i debug x, so that when i go to login, and it succeeds, showing me the desktop... within a few seconds it throws me back to the login screen.  I"m trying to figure out why this is happening
[08:56] <bekks> AXN: You can use both.
[08:56] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> bekks, im trying to figure this out so i can figure out what i need to change on my mac terminal to function like ubuntus
[08:56] <ippo_> rtps: ok, but that can't be satisfied by the ubuntu repos
[08:56] <AXN> So if I choose the first option to erase fresh (preferred for me), how do I choose where to install the boot loader?
[08:57] <bekks> AXN: You will be asked where to install the bootloader. Dont forget to create a seperate /boot partition.
[08:57] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> bekks, ubuntu uses kde?
[08:58] <interprog> Ubuntu use Unity
[08:58] <rtps> ippo_: indeed, you'd have to instruct users on how to setup their repos
[08:58] <bekks> SVCR3D-SHVD0WS: No.
[08:58] <AXN> bekks: How do I create a sep boot partition then?
[08:58] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> bekks, what is it throw me a bone here
[08:58] <ippo_> rtps: I was hoping to automate the task :)
[08:58] <rtps> ippo_: you still can :)
[08:59] <bekks> SVCR3D-SHVD0WS: KDE is a desktop environment, as Unity, LXDE, XFCE.
[08:59] <rtps> ippo_: what are you using to automate the package install?
[08:59] <bekks> AXN: By choosing to manually partition in the installer.
[08:59] <optik_> hi
[08:59] <interprog> Ubuntu use Unity, Kubuntu use KDE, Lubuntu use LXDE, Xubuntu use XFCE, UbuntuGnome use GNOME-, UbuntuMate-use Mate(based GNOME2).
[08:59] <ippo_> rtps: right now? nothing, we didn't get around packaging yet. This is the first attempt
[09:00] <rtps> ippo_: ah. whats the situation? you have a server fleet and they all need this package?
[09:00] <optik_> ubuntu is neat
[09:01] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> bekks, ya so which one does ubuntu use?
[09:01] <bekks> SVCR3D-SHVD0WS: Ubuntu uses Unity.
[09:01] <interprog> Ubuntu use Unity
[09:01] <interprog> Unity is a Desktop enviroment, Linux is a kernel.
[09:02] <ippo_> rtps: it's a small manager program for a game. It's built on mono so it can be portable. Right now we just distribute the .exe file and instruct users to follow an installation guide, assuming that linux users are a little more savy than windows users, which is proving to be... optimistic. I'd like to package the program into a ppa though
[09:02] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> bekks, interprog,   thankyou
[09:03] <interprog> Are you new to ubuntu SVR3D-SHVD0WS
[09:03] <AXN> bekks: so I create a new partition on the HDD as well, and mount it as /boot right?
[09:03] <bekks> AXN: Yes.
[09:04] <dreamon_> good morning. I have to use nvidia driver version 331.113 - every time there comes update, he wants to install 331.38. but this version dont work with blender cuda. Is it possible to stop this nasty  auto update procedure, till next versions comes out?
[09:04] <ippo_> rtps: especially, we'd like a ppa so that linux users can get automatic updates, as of course apt-get is pretty neat for that.
[09:04] <AXN> and then at the bottom at the drop down, I also select that HDD for grub?
[09:04] <AXN> Do I need to create ANOTHER partition for grub?
[09:04] <bekks> dreamon_: Yes, set that package on hold, using apt-mark
[09:04] <rtps> ippo_: i wonder, for any users is a mono upgrade like that likely to break anything?
[09:04] <bekks> AXN: No, you dont need another (besides /boot) partition for grub.
[09:05] <rtps> ippo_: you definitely don't want to do an apt-get update on their machines...
[09:05] <ippo_> rtps: probably bad form, right? :)
[09:05] <AntiSol> dreamon_: if you prefer a GUI I'm pretty sure synaptic has that feature too
[09:05] <AXN> kk so lets say /sda is HDD, create new partition, /sda2 for /boot and keep /sda for grub ye?
[09:06] <bekks> AXN: No. sda1 will be boot, and sda will be the target for grub (assuming sda is your 1TB HDD).
[09:06] <rtps> ippo_: i don't think its too bad a form, to instead of having 2 lines that people copy and paste into a terminal to install your app for it to be 3 or 4 [which would involve setting up the repo, putting it at a lower proirity, and installing mono from there]
[09:06] <AXN> ya thats what i meant ye
[09:07] <ippo_> rtps: yeah, you are probably right. brb, testing the (>= 3.10) dependency
[09:07] <AXN> bekks: sda = hdd for grub, sda1 = /boot, /dev/ssd for install ye?
[09:08] <kenweill> i was able to install teamviewer on Linux Mint but got a dependency error here on ubuntu... dependency error of lib32asound2.. i tried to run sudo apt-get install lib32asound2 but can't install as well
[09:08] <rtps> ippo_: one more work intensive way is to include the updated mono in your repo, but that would be a bit more work
[09:08] <taplaptap> how do i debug x, so that when i go to login, and it succeeds, showing me the desktop... within a few seconds it throws me back to the login screen.  I"m trying to figure out why this is happening
[09:08] <AXN> bekks: Now I just gotta ask, that package 'burg' that improves the look of your dual boot, will that work?
[09:09] <dreamon_> bekks, AntiSol Thanks - that worked
[09:09] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> hey so im searching through askubuntu.com and found a guy asking how he can switch his terminal back to ubuntus because he switched his distro to linux mint and someone answered "gnome-terminal" because ubuntu doesent use gnome anymore would it be "unity-terminal" or something along those lines? if not what is it?
[09:10] <AXN> bekks: Now I just gotta ask, that package 'burg' that improves the look of your dual boot, will that work?
[09:10] <AntiSol> it's likely still gnome-terminal. not sure since i use xfce4-terminal (which is also a good alternative)
[09:11] <cristian_c> !info burg
[09:11] <AXN> bekks: Now I just gotta ask, that package 'burg' that improves the look of your dual boot, will that work?
[09:11] <cristian_c> !repeat | AXN
[09:11] <ippo_> rtps: uh, you know when you can't see the forest for the trees? I just realized I can simply provide this script (http://pastebin.com/JMQa7kyK) so that users can install mono-complete 3.10 from wherever they like, or they can use my script if they can't be bothered
[09:12] <ippo_> at this point, the noob-friendly install becomes a simple wget script > bash
[09:13] <rtps> ippo_: sounds good, download script or copy and paste 5 lines, is pretty easy
[09:14] <ippo_> rtps: you wouldn't believe how even copying / pasting 5 lines is actually difficult when your average user is still in junior high school...
[09:15] <rtps> true true, i've gotten some weird questions over the years for simple software i've posted
[09:16] <ippo_> rtps: thanks for your help, I think I can continue from here :)
[09:17] <StiffBoner> how do i debug x, so that when i go to login, and it succeeds, showing me the desktop... within a few seconds it throws me back to the login screen.  I"m trying to figure out why this is happening
[09:17] <rtps> StiffBoner: i'd start by temporarily moving everything out of $HOME
[09:18] <StiffBoner> even .* ?
[09:18] <rtps> .* are the main candidates
[09:19] <rtps> its a cheap operation, mv /home/foo /foo_previous; mkdir /home/foo; chown foo /home/foo
[09:19] <AXN> bekks: Now I just gotta ask, that package 'burg' that improves the look of your dual boot, will that work?
[09:19] <AntiSol> log files will be in  /var/log/
[09:19] <AntiSol> you want something like xorg.0.log
[09:19] <AntiSol> or it might just be in syslog
[09:20] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> AntiSol, thanks dude ill check it out as an alternative
[09:20] <SVCR3D-SHVD0WS> AntiSol, are there any main advantages to it?
[09:21] <AntiSol> i just use it since I use xfce rather than unity or gnome
[09:21] <AntiSol> it's probably a little more lightweight than gnome-terminal but has most/all of the same functionality
[09:21] <AntiSol> but we're talking about a terminal emulator here so it's not likely to be a huge difference
[09:22] <rtps> sometimes performance is nice, when you accidently cat that 10GB thing
[09:23] <AntiSol> true. I run xfce on my fast machine, it's really snappy
[09:23] <rtps> its nice when you don't offset the benefit of faster hardware by running slower software :)
[09:23] <AntiSol> indeed :)
[09:25] <AntiSol> rtps: can you recommend a place where I might find a super-guru who might be able to answer my question?
[09:26] <AntiSol> ive asked in several channels and it seems like nobody has any idea
[09:26] <caf4926> AntiSol: define - super guru
[09:26] <caf4926> AntiSol: youmean like a know it all?
[09:26] <AntiSol> somebody who can answer my question! ;) I'll re-paste it:
[09:26] <rtps> AntiSol: this is funny-character-in-terminal problem?
[09:26] <AntiSol> rtps: can you recommend a place where I might find a super-guru who might be able to answer my question? yeah
[09:26] <AntiSol> yeah
[09:26] <AntiSol> sorry
[09:27] <rtps> AntiSol: have you tried setting TERM to something different? i'm just guessing here
[09:27] <AntiSol> I haven't, let me give that a shot
[09:27] <rtps> does it still happen after `export TERM=vt100`?
[09:27] <AntiSol> yep, still happens
[09:28] <AntiSol> default value for $TERM is 'xterm'
[09:28] <rtps> thats my one and only idea. some pretty bright people hang out on mailing lists, you could find the mailing list for your terminal and ask them
[09:29] <AntiSol> that sounds like a good idea, thanks :)
[09:29] <caf4926> +1 to mailing list idea
[09:29] <AXN> bekks: Now I just gotta ask, that package 'burg' that improves the look of your dual boot, will that work?
[09:30] <AntiSol> and BTW kudos for sitting on IRC answering people's questions, very admirable! Thankyou :)
[09:31] <html> hi
[09:31] <d4r3topk> Mysql gives me error "Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: YES) . Can someone tell me what to do?
[09:31] <d4r3topk> I have already tried giving all the kinds of password I can think of
[09:32] <StiffBoner> skip-grant-tables
[09:32] <d4r3topk> tried doing that
[09:32] <d4r3topk> mysqld --skip-grant-tables
[09:32] <rejit> AntiSol: maybe I can give it a try
[09:32] <html> hi all
[09:32] <d4r3topk> but doesn't work
[09:33] <AntiSol> d4r3topk: from memory, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql. you should be asked to reset your mysql root password.
[09:33] <rejit> d4r3topk: is your mysqld daemon service on?
[09:33] <d4r3topk> AntiSol: mysql not installed. WHAT!!
[09:33] <AntiSol> give me a second to check my commands ;)
[09:34] <AntiSol> it might be mysqld or something
[09:34] <d4r3topk> rejit: Can you tell me the command to check that?
[09:34] <d4r3topk> rejit: I guess it is.
[09:34] <AntiSol> rejit: sorry, give what a try?
[09:34] <AntiSol> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server
[09:35] <d4r3topk> okay it just got executed
[09:35] <d4r3topk> nothing happened though
[09:35] <rejit> AntiSol: 2:55 PM <AntiSol> rtps: can you recommend a place where I might find a super-guru who might be able to answer my question?
[09:35] <AntiSol> ok I'll repost my question
[09:35] <AntiSol> I have a weird problem I'm hoping somebody can help me with. I've tried several searches but TBH I'm not sure what I should be searching for. please see this screenshot: http://ibin.co/1usyqRDeRrB0 - note that the zero character seems corrupted when it's dislayed in color. It displays properly in my command and when i use --color=never, but with color enabled it gives this weird character. If I change the font of my terminal
[09:35] <AntiSol>  it displays fine, this is only happening when I have the "Monospace" font. If anybody has any ideas I'd be very appreciative :)
[09:36] <AntiSol> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure --all mysql-server
[09:36] <AntiSol> NO DONT DO THAT
[09:36] <AntiSol> sorry wrong argument
[09:36] <d4r3topk> okay
[09:36] <rejit> d4r3topk: service mysqld start
[09:36] <AntiSol> try --force
[09:36] <Ben64> d4r3topk: why didn't you just follow the steps i gave you before
[09:36] <d4r3topk> Ben64: Did that. Didn;t work
[09:37] <Ben64> elaborate on "didn't work"
[09:37] <d4r3topk> AntiSol: --force with?
[09:37] <AntiSol> sudo dpkg-reconfigure --force mysql-server
[09:37] <Ben64> d4r3topk: you might want to try the username "admin" too
[09:38] <AntiSol> or perhaps sudo dpkg-reconfigure --p0 mysql-server
[09:38] <AntiSol> sorry it has been ages since I used that command, fuzzy on the syntax
[09:39] <AntiSol> im fairly sure i have done it in the past though
[09:39] <d4r3topk> Ben64: First, I killed the process with the mysqld.pid file
[09:39] <d4r3topk> But it just keeps regenerating other pid
[09:40] <rejit> d4r3topk: service --status-all | grep mysqld
[09:40] <d4r3topk> then somehow the mysqld command ran with the --init-file set to the file there
[09:40] <rejit> d4r3topk: check whether its on or off
[09:40] <d4r3topk> shows a ?
[09:40] <d4r3topk> '?'
[09:40] <d4r3topk> next to mysql
[09:41] <rejit> d4r3topk: service mysqld restart
[09:41] <d4r3topk> Also, I tried uninstalling and reinstalling mysql, still same error
[09:41] <rejit> d4r3topk: service mysqld start
[09:42] <AntiSol> d4r3topk: if you're happy to uninstall and reinstall, maybe try purging with apt-get purge mysql-server
[09:42] <AntiSol> that should delete all config files and whatnot and when you reinstall it should ask for a new root pw
[09:44] <rejit> he/she needs to simply check the functioning of the daemon and confirm if, whether its on or off
[09:45] <AntiSol> good point, I just assumed it was running
[09:45] <rejit> i have been saying that for past 15 mins
[09:45] <rejit> anyways
[09:45] <AntiSol> sorry :/
[09:46] <rejit> AntiSol: which is your desktop environment
[09:46] <AntiSol> xfce
[09:46] <AntiSol> it's xfce4-terminal
[09:46] <aledzadza> i just made my first homepage
[09:46] <rejit> AntiSol: its higly customized and I cant even recognize it :)
[09:46] <AntiSol> indeed ;)
[09:46] <d4r3topk1> Sorry ! light cut out
[09:47] <d4r3topk> rejit: sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5 worked
[09:47] <d4r3topk> and i changed the password
[09:47] <d4r3topk> still error 1045 access denied for root@localhost
[09:48] <rejit> d4r3topk:  please type service mysqld start
[09:48] <d4r3topk> I am sure my password is correct
[09:48] <d4r3topk> mysqld unknown service
[09:48] <d4r3topk> wait a sec
[09:48] <rejit> wow
[09:48] <rejit> dpkg-reconfigure was never my solution :)
[09:48] <AntiSol> rejit: but I don't think it's my custom prompt, I've had that for years and on multiple machines and dont see this problem anywhere else. I think it probably started happening either when I did an apt-get upgrade but im really not sure
[09:48] <d4r3topk> rejit: then what was?
[09:49] <rejit> d4r3topk: I kept asking you to check whether the service was on or off
[09:50] <rejit> d4r3topk:  mysql is a service apache is a service nginx is a service , and you need to start them with boot to use them :)
[09:50] <AntiSol> it's just mysql, not mysqld. hint: you can use tab-completion on the service command, i.e "service mysql[TAB]"
[09:50] <d4r3topk> rejit: on typing mysqld, it shows me cant change dir to /var/lib/mysql. mysqld : shutdown complete
[09:50] <AntiSol> but you then need to prepend sudo to run it
[09:51] <d4r3topk> Job is already running: mysql
[09:51] <Ben64> d4r3topk: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
[09:51] <d4r3topk> Ben64: I tried that.
[09:52] <Ben64> not properly or it'd work
[09:52] <AntiSol> how are you running mysql? are you using "mysql -p" or "mysql -p[PASSWORD]"?
[09:52] <d4r3topk> mysqld -u root -p
[09:52] <d4r3topk> enter password :
[09:52] <rejit> mysql -u root -p your password
[09:52] <d4r3topk> did that too.
[09:52] <d4r3topk> still asks for enter password:
[09:52] <AntiSol> no space between -p and password
[09:52] <rejit> ofcourse there is a space
[09:53] <AntiSol> no there's not, if you put a space it will fail
[09:53] <Ben64> d4r3topk: you have to run mysqld_safe as shown in the link i gave you
[09:53] <rejit> :S
[09:53] <AntiSol> it's finnicky like that :)
[09:53] <d4r3topk> Ben64: kill pid, the pid gets killed, but it regenerates other. Then while running mysqld_safe it says that mysqld is already running
[09:53] <Ben64> then stop mysql
[09:53] <d4r3topk> I stopped it using mysql stop. It stops. But it still says the same thing
[09:54] <AntiSol> "the same thing" being what?
[09:54] <d4r3topk> The thing is I don't need to reset my password for root. There obviously is something else wrong. Because i just resetted my password using the dpkg command
[09:54] <d4r3topk> AntiSol: mysqld is still running
[09:55] <Ben64> have you tried admin
[09:55] <Ben64> like i said already
[09:55] <d4r3topk> yes i did
[09:55] <Ben64> cause you keep using root
[09:55] <AntiSol> it should be root
[09:56] <d4r3topk> it is root. I remember few days back, there were two users, root and my own user
[09:56] <d4r3topk> i can still log in to my own user, but not root
[09:56] <Ben64> then reset the permissions as shown on that page
[09:56] <d4r3topk> Ill try that again.
[09:56] <AntiSol> even though you have reset the password? that's weird
[09:56] <AntiSol> perhaps root login is disabled? are you logging in from a different machine or something like that?
[09:57] <d4r3topk> different machine?
[09:57] <AntiSol> are you trying to connect to mysql on a different computer? because root logins will probably only be allowed from the same machine
[09:58] <rejit> AntiSol: is it just for zero
[09:59] <AntiSol> yeah zero is the only char i've seen the problem with
[10:00] <AntiSol> it could be other chars, but i think it's only zero
[10:00] <rejit> AntiSol:  Have you tested it without all that fancy themes
[10:01] <AntiSol> i haven't, let me disable my prompt to eliminate the possibility, brb...
[10:01] <rejit> AntiSol: even i have an xfce4
[10:02] <AntiSol> hmmm OK so it is something in my prompt!
[10:03] <AntiSol> I guess it must be something to do with the escape sequences im using to get colour
[10:03] <AntiSol> i disabled it and the problem goes away
[10:04] <AntiSol> strange that it only happens on this one machine (I have the exact same prompt on about 5 machines)
[10:04] <cage_raphel> EriC^^, : hello mate..
[10:04] <cage_raphel> how are you ?
[10:04] <cage_raphel> i am unable to turn my wifi on.. i am running ubu 14.10 can someone help pls ??
[10:05] <heckbeard> AntiSol: are you using the same terminal app on all those machines?
[10:05] <AntiSol> yeah but there are a couple of different versions, one is still on 12.04 for example
[10:06] <AntiSol> but at least one should be on the exact same version
[10:06] <AntiSol> I'll double-check that
[10:06] <heckbeard> AntiSol: yeah just thought it might be differnt terminal app or version causing issue
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> cage_raphel: what kind of wifi chipset do you have?
[10:07] <octavian> Tried to install an USB modem Huawei 3131 and got this after I used sudo bash install http://pastebin.com/ZZcHwjny
[10:08] <octavian> Any help would be welcome
[10:08] <AntiSol> yeah so there is definitely one machine running the exact same version. I guess it could be using a different font though. It's a remote machine (in the office) so I can't check that right now
[10:08] <AntiSol> at least not easily
[10:09] <AntiSol> it's actually only 3 machines that i use that combination of script/program on. one uses a different terminal app and one doesn't have the same prompt
[10:10] <rejit> octavian: goofed up installation path
[10:10] <AntiSol> but you have at least helped me to figure out the cause! I'll play with my prompt and see what I can come up with. thanks!
[10:10] <heckbeard> AntiSol: is it the remote machine thats the issue?
[10:10] <AntiSol> nah the local one that I'm talking to you on
[10:10] <heckbeard> ah
[10:11] <AntiSol> I don't have easy gui access to the remote machine due to slow internet
[10:11] <AntiSol> and firewalls and whatnot. It's possible but annoying.
[10:12] <AntiSol> interesting! when I ssh into that remote machine (which runs my custom prompt) and the log out to the terminal with no custom prompt, the problem reappears
[10:12] <AntiSol> so it's definitely something in my prompt
[10:13] <AntiSol> setterm -reset does not fix it
[10:14] <heckbeard> AntiSol: you using screen or tmux during remote sessions?
[10:14] <AntiSol> nope. I use screen a lot but not in this example
[10:14] <heckbeard> ok
[10:15] <kemal> picture thumbnails don't show in folders?
[10:15] <AntiSol> I'm going to try commenting out all the escape sequences in my prompt one-by-one to find the culprit
[10:16] <heckbeard> AntiSol: elimination process always the best lol
[10:16] <AntiSol> yup. it's going to be tedious - you've seen my prompt, it's a circus of colours ;)
[10:17] <AntiSol> but I'll find it
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> kemal: you can use shotwell for a more thumbnail experience
[10:17] <kemal> lotuspsychje: thanks :)
[10:21] <indistylo> cristian_c: ls
[10:23] <AntiSol> ok now I'm even more confused. It's not my fancy prompt at all, it has to do with font size / terminal zoom
[10:24] <AntiSol> the reason I thought it was my prompt was because my other terminal tabs are zoomed in slightly but new tabs are not
[10:24] <kemal> lotuspsychje: shotwell opens the jpg, but I want to see all the thumbnails in the directory list ?
[10:24] <AntiSol> when I zoom in the problem happens regardless of whether im using my prompt or not
[10:24] <AntiSol> I know, it sounds bizarre, I can make screenshots if you wanna see :)
[10:25] <lotuspsychje> kemal: shotwell only organizes all pictures to make you find them more easy
[10:25] <bekks> AXN: burg is a different bootloader.
[10:26] <cristian_c> indistylo, ?
[10:26] <AntiSol> OK so the problem only happens when the font is "Monospace" and size 14.
[10:26] <d4r3topk> Ben64:checked status - running from 20 minutes. Stopped mysql. checked status - running from 2 seconds.
[10:27] <d4r3topk> It just keeps running back even when i stop it
[10:27] <AntiSol> im thinking the font file might be corrupt but I can't seem to find the "monospace" font in /usr/share/fonts or with fc-config. Can anyone help me find it?
[10:28] <AntiSol> sorry fc-match not fc-config
[10:33] <jeremejevs> hi, I'm running a fresh installation of 14.10 in VirtualBox @ Win8.1 on two machines, with identical settings (3D accel. enabled, 256MB VRAM); some hardware-accelerated applications, like Sublime Text or Chrome, lag on one machine (slow rendering, choppy scrolling, etc.), but not the other; how do I troubleshoot this situation?
[10:34] <AntiSol> jeremejevs: do the 2 machines have different hardware? perhaps one has a better gfx card?
[10:34] <jeremejevs> AntiSol: yes, they do, and then _lagging_ machine is much more powerful than the smooth one
[10:35] <AntiSol> interesting. crappy drivers perhaps? I don't know much about 3d accel in VMs so I'm just guessing really
[10:35] <jeremejevs> actually, with 3D accel disabled nothing changes
[10:35] <jeremejevs> the smooth machine stays smooth
[10:36] <octavian> rejit: thank you. that was it :D
[10:36] <AntiSol> yeah right so they're not doing hardware accel then
[10:36] <jeremejevs> well, they do, I just don't think it's the hardware's problem
[10:37] <AntiSol> i mean the vms aren't getting hardware acceleration if turning it off makes no difference
[10:37] <kemal>  lotuspsychje: so there is no chance to see pictures as thumbnails, because shotwell opens the pictures one after another and lets me scroll
[10:37] <AntiSol> I have tried doing the opposite a couple of times (i.e win VM running on linux host) for games but I've never been able to get it to work
[10:38] <jeremejevs> no, the difference is noticeable; if I run Unity, instead of i3, it's impossible to use without 3D
[10:38] <jeremejevs> also, the Unity 3D checker says that 3D gets enabled, when I enable it in VM settings
[10:38] <AntiSol> then what did you mean by "actually, with 3D accel disabled nothing changes"?
[10:39] <jeremejevs> well, the apps in question are still choppy, like Sublime (scrolling), regardless of 3D being enabled or not; I mentioned it because that's the first what everybody points out, so I said that it's enabled
[10:40] <indistylo> erichf: Hello
[10:40] <AntiSol> have you tried asking in some virtualbox channel / forum? I think you'll probably get a better answer if you ask in a VM-related place. I do know that 3d accel in VMs is tricky
[10:41] <AntiSol> I wish I could offer better suggestions but it sounds to me like the ubuntu guest is seeing the 3D hardware etc, so it's likely to be a virtualbox or windoze thing
[10:42] <jeremejevs> AntiSol: alright; I'm just not sure whose fault is this - VM's or Ubuntu's; another installation of Wheezy was a complete cluster, no vsync when scrolling, tearing, ghosting, etc.
[10:42] <AntiSol> heckbeard, rejit: any thoughts on where/how I might find the file for the Monospace font on disk?
[10:43] <jeremejevs> thanks either way
[10:43] <AntiSol> I'm not sure either - it could be an ubuntu thing
[10:43] <AntiSol> but I think that in a VM channel/forum they'll probably have a better idea either way
[10:43] <AntiSol> if they say "it's definitely ubuntu" then by all means please come back :)
[10:44] <jeremejevs> cheers, will do :)
[10:44] <AntiSol> or perhaps someone else here wants to chime in with another suggestion
[10:45] <AntiSol> good luck
[10:47] <lotuspsychje> jeremejevs: did you try the same on 14.04?
[10:47] <AntiSol> for people following my issue I think I'm just going to abandon it and cheat by using a different monospace font in my terminal :)
[10:48] <AntiSol> there, problem solved!
[10:48] <aledzadza> how can i see how much harddrive space i have left?
[10:48] <AntiSol> df -h
[10:49] <jeremejevs> lotuspsychje: no, but I can; what makes you think it could be different?
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> !info bleachbit | aledzadza and to make some free space
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> jeremejevs: could be more stable, smoother
[10:50] <dorwlyo> rejit: what about this? http://pastebin.com/XixVMdpi
[10:50] <dorwlyo> or anyone
[10:50] <jeremejevs> lotuspsychje, alright, I'll give it a go, thanks for the suggestion
[10:50] <lotuspsychje> jeremejevs: depends what the bottleneck is exactly
[10:51] <lotuspsychje> jeremejevs: maybe tweak as much as you can first, disable unity eyecandy, free up some space, grafix drivers correctly installed, install preload,etc
[10:51] <aledzadza> ubottu: how did i delete the files?
[10:51] <aledzadza> ><
[10:52] <AntiSol> you can delete stuff in the terminal with rm but be careful
[10:52] <AntiSol> usually you will want 'rm -Rvf <file/dir>'
[10:53] <AntiSol> -R means recursively delete directories, -f means force (don't prompt for each file) and -v means verbose, show what you're deleting
[10:53] <aledzadza> yeah but im using a live install on a small usb memory so i just wwant to delete unnecesary files
[10:53] <jeremejevs> lotuspsychje, the lagging installation is as minimal as it gets: I used netinstall, with nothing selected in tasksel, and then installed ubuntu-desktop with --no-install-recommends, and then latest stable i3 WM on top of that; tested in both, no difference
[10:53] <Jackevansevo> set weechat.look.prefix_join "▬▬▶"
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> jeremejevs: what kind of grafix card?
[10:54] <jeremejevs> lotuspsychje, GTX 770 in SLI
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> jeremejevs: is that an optimus card?
[10:54] <AntiSol> aah that's a different story altogether, sorry dont know much about running in a live environment
[10:55] <jeremejevs> lotuspsychje, no, that's on desktop
[10:55] <jeremejevs> the smooth machine has an optimus card - NVS5400M
[10:55] <lotuspsychje> ok
[10:56] <lotuspsychje> jeremejevs: did you try running virtualbox from terminal, maybe some usefull errors occur?
[10:57] <jeremejevs> lotuspsychje, hmm, no; are there no log files I could look at?
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> jeremejevs: well as issues occur in your virtualbox its hard to debug, dont think syslog or dmesg will log stuff
[10:58] <lotuspsychje> jeremejevs: i would try virtualbox itself from terminal
[10:59] <rejit> dorwlyo: are you installing this as root?
[11:00] <rejit> AntiSol: have you searched .fonts directory
[11:01] <AntiSol> I have, there's only one font in there (CBM font for the VICE c64 emulator)
[11:02] <dorwlyo> rejit: yep
[11:02] <jeremejevs> lotuspsychje, well, "startvm" just starts the machine, and then returns :) there is a log viewer in VBox, but I'm not seeing anything noteworthy; want me to dump it somewhere?
[11:03] <dorwlyo> rejit: cd /home/dorwlyo/Desktop/Linux
[11:03] <rejit> Antisol /usr/share/font /usr/share/fonts
[11:03] <dorwlyo> rejit: then sudo bash install
[11:04] <rejit> dorwlyo: what is the name of your driver huawei?
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> jeremejevs: no if it doesnt show anything usefull, i would try 14.04 perhaps
[11:05] <dorwlyo> rejit: Huawei 3131
[11:05] <yeats> jeremejevs: you've checked Settings -> Display Video Memory and 3D acceleration in vbox on the affected machine?
[11:05] <dorwlyo> rejit: E3131****
[11:06] <AntiSol> rejit: I don't have /usr/share/font and can't find it in /usr/share/fonts, have used 'find /usr/share/fonts -name '*[Mm]ono[Ss]pace*'
[11:06] <rejit> try installing as root with su -
[11:06] <rejit> installing from root level directory
[11:06] <AntiSol> there are many fonts in there and just searching for *[Mm]ono* gives lots of results but I can't see a font just called "Monospace"
[11:06] <jeremejevs> yeats: yes, toggling it doesn't affect the performance of 2D apps; and I don't think it should, as the smooth machine doesn't have 3D accel, and it's weaker than the laggy one
[11:07] <yeats> jeremejevs: I would ask in #vbox
[11:08] <jeremejevs> AntiSol: monospace doesn't exist, AFAIK, it's just a system alias for the default mono-spaced font
[11:08] <AntiSol> aaaaaaah. do you know how I can find out what that is?
[11:08] <jeremejevs> yeats: doing that right now
[11:09] <dorwlyo> rejit: same thing
[11:10] <dorwlyo> cd /home/dorwlyo/Desktop/Linux
[11:10] <jeremejevs> AntiSol: don't know the right way, but I just opened the terminal, and noticed that nothing changes, if I swap "Monospaced 12" for "Dejavu Mono 12"
[11:10] <jeremejevs> or it could be "Ubuntu Mono 12"
[11:10] <jeremejevs> etc.
[11:10] <AntiSol> OK found it by simply switching to various mono fonts in the terminal
[11:10] <jeremejevs> haha
[11:10] <AntiSol> it's Bitstream vera sans mono
[11:11] <AntiSol> haha cool :)
[11:11] <AntiSol> great minds think alike ;)
[11:11] <marus> hello, i have lost a file from my ubuntu, is there a 100% to restore it?
[11:11] <rejit> AntiSol: sorry , i cant lead you to the exact directories coz i dont use ubuntu :P
[11:11] <yeats> marus: how did you "lose" the file?
[11:12] <AntiSol> rejit: all good I've found it, thanks :)
[11:12] <dorwlyo> rejit: anything else?
[11:13] <rejit> dorwlyo: you need to look for modswtich for your device
[11:13] <rejit> dorwlyo: you will have to configure the rules for the device manually
[11:13] <dorwlyo> what's that?
[11:13] <rejit> dorwlyo: lsusb will give you vendor id
[11:14] <rejit> dorwlyo: after you have inserted the device into your box
[11:14] <dorwlyo> and then?
[11:16] <AntiSol> ok so I've found the font file (/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera) and package that provides it (ttf-bitstream-vera) so i did 'sudo apt-get install --reinstall ttf-bitstream-vera' but no difference. Do you think rebooting/restarting X will help?
[11:16] <AXN> hey anyone know about installing ubuntu on a raid0 setup?
[11:16] <AXN> in terms of grub loader etc?
[11:17] <rejit> http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/comm/usb-modeswitch dorwlyo : do you have this package
[11:17] <dorwlyo> rejit: I also tried sudo apt-get install usb-modeswitch
[11:17] <momomo> How do I setup thunderbird mail account with gmail ?
[11:17] <momomo> I have enabled imap on gmail settings but it keeps saying password is not correct!?
[11:17] <rejit> ok so you have it installed dorwlyo
[11:17] <AXN> hey anyone know much about raid0 ubuntu setups?
[11:18] <yeats> momomo: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/thunderbird-and-gmail might help
[11:18] <dorwlyo> rejit: yep
[11:19] <AntiSol> very weird - I figured I'd try looking in xfce settings for the default monospace font and noticed that if I turn off antialiasing the zero character displays normally
[11:20] <momomo> yeats, it doesn't .. anyone have thunderbird setup with gmail ? what ingredient might I be missing here ?
[11:20] <yeats> momomo: I have it working with gmail
[11:20] <yeats> momomo: do you use 2-factor authentication for google/gmail?
[11:20] <hmp1768> Hi, I'm having a hard time getting the bell sound to work on 14.04, any advice please?
[11:20] <AntiSol> further, setting the sub-pixel order to anything other than "none" also makes the problem go away.
[11:20] <momomo> yeats, no, i don't .. that's what so wierd
[11:21] <momomo> yeats, here is some thread with people having similar issues: https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/gmail/9Y1708Gewos/P7gV35B4hiYJ
[11:22] <dorwlyo> rejit: Can I do anything else?
[11:22] <yeats> momomo: wrong port for IMAP, maybe?
[11:23] <AntiSol> I'm going to set the subpixel order to RGB as a workaround and maybe file a bug with the xfce people.
[11:24] <AntiSol> thanks for your help everybody! :)
[11:24] <momomo> yeats, incoming: 993, outgoing: 465 .. ssl/tls .. what do you have?
[11:27] <marus> yeats: i lost it while cuting it from laptop to usb
[11:32] <momomo> yeats, appearantly you need to enable access for less secure apps .
[11:42] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[11:55] <bowlesa> I can't unlock my pc after it locks, running Gnome 3.14.3
[11:55] <bowlesa> typing my password does not unlock the pc, wrong password warns about incorrect password
[11:56] <kmloksdf> hello
[11:57] <Horry> That happened to me on Kali, based on Debian. Try restarting the machine.
[11:57] <rtps> could check the logs
[11:57] <rtps> switch out to tty2, see if you can login there,
[11:58] <bowlesa> yeah, can log in on a new tty, or by 'logging in with another account' and logging in to the same account that is already logged in
[11:59] <bowlesa> also, this occurs after reboots, already tried that
[11:59] <rtps> checked out /var/log/ for any errors?
[12:00] <he110wo1d> bowlesa,what input method did u use?
[12:00] <bowlesa> ps2 keyboard
[12:00] <rasser> my greetinga
[12:01] <rtps> haven't seen a ps2 keyboard this decade!
[12:02] <londoncalling> My mechanical keyboard is PS2.
[12:02] <bowlesa> rtps http://superuser.com/a/380843
[12:03] <he110wo1d> i met same problem.because i not use english input
[12:04] <bowlesa> hmm
[12:04] <bowlesa> I'm using english uk
[12:04] <he110wo1d> oh
[12:05] <bowlesa> what did you use, he110wo1d?
[12:05] <he110wo1d> sorry,hope others  can help u
[12:05] <bowlesa> ok, thanks
[12:05] <he110wo1d> chinese
[12:06] <rtps> bowlesa: interesting
[12:10] <marus> hello, i have lost a file from my ubuntu, is there a 100% to restore it?
[12:11] <bekks> marus: From your verified backup, yes.
[12:11] <marus> bekks: i know backup...
[12:11] <bekks> marus: Thats the way to 100% restore files.
[12:12] <rtps> what did you file look like, one of might have seen it around somewhere
[12:12] <yeats> !behelpful | rtps
[12:12] <yeats> !recover | marus
[12:13] <marus> yeats. thank you so much :-)
[12:14] <rtps> http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html seems to be a dead link
[12:14] <xeon123> I want to convert mp3 to txt3. I have been looking to Julius and Simon, but I can't find a way to translate to mp3 to txt. How can I convert an mp3 file to txt?
[12:15] <rtps> hmm, and the last link could be updated to point to https://github.com/IzzySoft/ext3undel/
[12:16] <rtps> xeon123: what's txt3?
[12:16] <xeon123> rtps, txt
[12:17] <bowlesa> why do you want to do that, xeon123
[12:17] <rtps> if you're not trolling, `base64 foo.mp3` strictly does what you want
[12:18] <xeon123> bowlesa, because I want to convert a speech in an youtube video to txt.
[12:18] <bowlesa> I don't know where to being
[12:18] <bowlesa> begin*
[12:19] <xeon123> rtps, base64 doesn't do nothing.
[12:19] <yeats> xeon123: from the cursory web search I just did - looks like Julius and Simon are your best bets - I think you should check out their support venues for help
[12:20] <xeon123> yeats, I have check. But I can't find a way to load an mp3 and get a txt.
[12:20] <yeats> xeon123: note that I've not used either and haven't needed to do what you're attempting, so take it for what it's worth
[12:22] <yeats> xeon123: julius-info at lists.sourceforge.jp for julius support, https://forum.kde.org/viewforum.php?f=216 for simon
[12:33] <ph88> hey guys i follow this answer to set grub timeout http://askubuntu.com/a/148097  but it's still not timing out... what can i do about it?
[12:33] <hmp1768> So, I'm having a really hard time getting terminal bell in 14.04, I'm a bit los about this. Any help would be greatly apreciated.
[12:35] <vlt> Hello. Is there a de facto standard tool to be used in script (resp. web app) to extract text from various kinds of documents (like odt, doc, pdf, images via OCR)? By chance I found https://github.com/deanmalmgren/textract but don’t know if I’m missing the obvoius one here. Any idea?
[12:37] <hay207> hi guys, i want a screen lock indicator for unity.
[12:39] <hmp1768> So, I'm having a really hard time getting terminal bell in 14.04, and to be honest I'm totally lost about this. Any help would be greatly apreciated.
[12:46] <pokpok> hellow.. i have 2 devices on /dev/USB* and some times they change place after a reboot. can i use some ID insted of /dev/ttyUSB0?
[12:47] <hmp1768> pokpok: I don't have the complete answer but you're looking for a udev rule to "alias" your devices, have a look at that
[12:48] <pokpok> hmp1768: ill try...
[12:48] <hmp1768> pokpok: Here is a glimpse on what you've got to do
[12:49] <hmp1768> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bus_pirate
[12:51] <MelRay> whenever I issue sudo service samba start/restart I get this message: no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory?
[12:52] <MelRay> ubuntu server 12.04(I did do-release-upgrade)
[12:52] <bekks> MelRay: Did you do-release-upgrade to 12.04 or from 12.04?
[12:53] <MelRay> bekks: Yes sir
[12:53] <MelRay> Per recommendation when logging into the server
[12:53] <bekks> MelRay: "yes" is an invalid answer for a question containing "or".
[12:54] <MelRay> bekks: When I downloaded it from the website it said server 12.04.5
[12:55] <bekks> MelRay: What does lsb_release -a say now?
[12:55] <Dive1> Q: Where is the log file for module messages?
[12:56] <MelRay> bekks: Ubuntu 14.04.2 LTS
[12:57] <OerHeks> MelRay,  sudo service smbd start/restart
[12:57] <diasydios> hi here
[12:58] <MelRay> bekks: Never mind found it on google once I realized it updated to 14.04
[12:58] <bekks> MelRay: So youo are running 14.04
[12:58] <MelRay> bekks: Now I am but I wasn't originally
[13:00] <diasydios> i search steup name who can help me to program
[13:00] <diasydios> setup for programation
[13:00] <EriC^^> diasydios, can you rephrase your question?
[13:00] <EriC^^> diasydios, you'd like to program?
[13:01] <diasydios> setup for programmation ??
[13:01] <EriC^^> which language?
[13:01] <diasydios> all if is possible but C/C++ and android
[13:02] <EriC^^> diasydios, install gcc, sudo apt-get install gcc
[13:02] <EriC^^> also you might want to join #programming
[13:02] <diasydios> I have it albready
[13:02] <dreamcat4^> diasydios: install the android SDK
[13:02] <diasydios> okay okay
[13:04] <diasydios> android SDK on ubuntu sure ??
[13:04] <Nikhil> Heya all, I have little problem in my ubuntu 14.1
[13:04] <EriC^^> Nikhil, ask away