[00:00] <foxhop> taquitos: You need to extract it
[00:00] <Zacaa> I really hope so Wyzard but I must say that I've tried that already yet it didn't work :)
[00:00] <taquitos> it's extracted.
[00:00] <Zacaa> but maybe the apt-get update was needed first?
[00:00] <Valtor> hey everyone, i have a couple of questions : if I install ubuntu from scratch, considering I have a /home partition, I will have to reinstall all my software right?
[00:00] <Zacaa> but I am rather sure that I did that same process through synaptic
[00:00] <taquitos> i see vmware-install.pl with a little lock in the icon
[00:00] <ezzieyguywu1> when i trigger suspend in ubuntu, I want it to run "metacity --replace" before it starts suspending and "compiz --replace" after it resumes. can someone help me with this? I tried editing "/usr/sbin/pm-suspend" with "metacity --replace &" in the first line in order to accomlish the first half of this, but it does not seem to be working. any ideas?
[00:00] <melee> I installed Samba, I go to network, and it sees the windows computer, but when I open it I don't see any shared folders
[00:01] <psycardis> I was told to add a line to /etc/modprobe.conf.local, and can't find that file can someone help me?
[00:01] <taquitos> i couble clicked it, hit run and "nothing happened"
[00:01] <Wyzard> Zacaa: I'd expect that installing nvidia-glx through synaptic *should* work too, but the Hardware Drivers window is the "official" way to do it
[00:01] <foxhop> taquitos: that is a script to install the software, you might want to read the instructions
[00:01] <osmosis> 3ware raid controller seems slow on hardy 2.6.24-16-server
[00:01] <Valtor> hey everyone, i have a couple of questions : if I install ubuntu from scratch, considering I have a /home partition, I will have to reinstall all my software right?
[00:01] <Wyzard> Zacaa: and you may actually need nvidia-glx-new rather than plain nvidia-glx
[00:01] <algyz> LainIwakura:  strange, after restart of gnome seems it works now, anyway, thanks :)
[00:01] <Pelo> psycardis,  I don'T have that on my hdd either
[00:01] <psycardis> taquitos: there is a readme
[00:01] <LainIwakura> algyz: np
[00:01] <Valtor> what is the general concensus on upgrade/install?
[00:01] <Wyzard> Zacaa: to go with the "nvidia-new" kernel module that you saw mentioned earlier...  I'm not sure what the difference is though
[00:01] <Zacaa> Yes Wyzard, I have actually tried them both
[00:01] <psycardis> pelo: there has to be an equivilant...
[00:02] <zelrikriando> ok nothing much changed
[00:02] <Valtor> I remember upgrading to 7.04 and failing miserably.....
[00:02] <Pelo> psycardis, what are you trying to acheive ?
[00:02] <psycardis> pelo: working on my webcam
[00:02] <howapt> Valtor: its a general yes
[00:02] <howapt> Valtor: with some no
[00:02] <taquitos> psycardis: where is the readme, don't see it
[00:02] <Dial_tone> lol
[00:02] <Pelo> psycardis, what's the line ?
[00:03] <Valtor> howapt: i mean, should I install or upgrade? :P
[00:03] <psycardis> Pelo: I had it working last night, but somehow after rebooting it doesn't work
[00:03] <osotogari> has anyone connected their xbox to their machine via ethernet to share their wireless connection to the internet?
[00:03] <zelrikriando> Pelo: I can only change the resolution through the GUI and it doesnt offer the rez I want
[00:03] <psycardis> pelo: install uvcvideo /sbin/modprobe snd_usb_audio; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install uvcvideo
[00:03] <Zacaa> but thanks for your help, Wyzard, when I have access to download from the internet again I will be sure to come see if you are here
[00:03] <__knight> hello
[00:03] <Pelo> psycardis, adding it to /etc/local.rc maybe ?
[00:03] <lch> Valtor: try upgrade, you can always reinstall if it fails. upgrading worked fine for me :-)
[00:03] <Pelo> zelrikriando, is the resoluton you want listed in xorg.conf ?
[00:03] <ipx> Valtor: for me also
[00:03] <__knight> i've got a problem with ati gfx card in ubuntu 8.04, cant configure anything, the screen is lagging like hell and im clulesss
[00:04] <Valtor> thats what I thought, just wanted to make sure :) thx everyone!
[00:04] <zelrikriando> Pelo : I list that resolution only
[00:04] <foxhop> I'll be back later
[00:04] <foxhop> See you guys
[00:04] <zelrikriando> Pelo: which is 1280x1024
[00:04] <osotogari> can anyone recommend a drum machine for ubuntu?
[00:05] <Pelo> zelrikriando, thinking
[00:05] <ForzaPalermo> can anyonehelp me get azurueus 64bit edition working in ubuntu
[00:05] <Sinister> iv tried apt-get for two days and nothing new i need new stuff and patches its like christmas when it finds 50 things new today its like someone killed the easter bunny
[00:05] <psycardis> pelo: there is no /etc/local.rc
[00:05] <melee> Does anyone know how to access files shared from windows while using ubuntu?
[00:05] <howapt> sper....
[00:05] <howapt> m
[00:05] <psycardis> forza: #azureus
[00:05] <Pelo> psycardis, my mistake   /etc/rc.local  it is used to list scripts you want to run on startup
[00:06] <Pelo> howapt, warning #1 ,
[00:06] <Pelo> howapt, you get one
[00:06] <Dial_tone> melee do you have files shared on windows already?
[00:06] <howapt> Pelo: Microsoft have the main market share?
[00:06] <Cha_sTheory^> I am now running Ratpoison.
[00:07] <Cha_sTheory^> Any tips on how to get started? ^_^
[00:07] <lekremyelsew> hai all
[00:08] <Pelo> psycardis,  toward the end,  I use it to start fancontrol,   add the path and file you need at the end of the file assuming this line is to start a process or perform an action ,   in my case  /etc/init.d/fancontrol
[00:08] <getisboy> is there any way to copy a certain number of bytes from a certain offset in a file besides dd?
[00:08] <zelrikriando> Pelo: what if I do a complete reconfigure?
[00:09] <cdm10> Is there a better tool than dd to use if I want to copy x bytes from x offset from one file to another? Getting the offset right requires bs=1, which results in a ridiculously slow copy.
[00:09] <Pelo> zelrikriando, no idea,  but I have a thought ,  pastbein your new current so I can direct you properly
[00:09] <getisboy> cdm10, ur stealing my question
[00:09] <zelrikriando> Pelo: ok
[00:09] <Pelo> zelrikriando,  what do you mean by complete reconfigure ? clean install ?
[00:09] <cdm10> getisboy: damn, I didn't actually expect you to ask, I was going to do it for you
[00:09] <zelrikriando> Pelo...hm no :)
[00:10] <Pelo> zelrikriando, deleting the xorg.conf file and performing dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg might work
[00:10] <lekremyelsew> hai all, just got 8.04, none of the flash objects in firefox make any sound, with any of the 3 plugins and it still doesnt work with firefox 2
[00:10] <zelrikriando> Pelo : http://pastebin.com/m45962775
[00:10] <gronne> I love Ubuntu
[00:10] <groken> does anyone know why parallels hates ubuntu?
[00:10] <aLeSD> hi all
[00:10] <Pelo> psycardis,  you still haveniT' told me what the line you want to add is ? what werer you tring to put in the other file ?
[00:11] <osama> I am hesitant in installing hardy... any way to install firefox2? I need google browser sync
[00:11] <Pelo> zelrikriando, hold on
[00:11] <howapt> aLeSD: you
[00:11] <SilverReadman> Hey people.
[00:11] <cdm10> lekremyelsew: try installing libflashsupport ( sudo aptitude install libflashsupport )
[00:11] <SilverReadman> I'm an idiot, what's the codename for 8.04?
[00:11] <cdm10> lekremyelsew: that'll redirect Flash sound through PulseAudio... which might result in a slight delay, but it's better than nothing.
[00:11] <aLeSD> where I can find the memorized passwd of the wifi in ubuntu ? I don't remember more the passwd but the SO connects correctly
[00:11] <cdm10> SilverReadman: Hardy Heron
[00:11] <lch> osama: just install the firefox2 package :-)
[00:11] <themoebius_> osama: try using weave to sync ff3
[00:11] <cdm10> aLeSD: are you on Hardy or Gutsy?
[00:11] <LainIwakura> !hardy | SilverReadman
[00:11] <ubotu> SilverReadman: Hardy Heron is the codename for the current release of Ubuntu (8.04-LTS) You can get it now from http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu but please use !torrents
[00:11] <SilverReadman> Thanks cdm10~
[00:11] <aLeSD> cdm10: 8.04
[00:11] <Pelo> psycardis, put that line in exactly like that
[00:12] <jesusfreak940> So what can ubuntu do that windows can't
[00:12] <cdm10> aLeSD: right click on the network applet and go to Edit Wireless Networks
[00:12] <Pelo> psycardis, you also have the option to create the file yo were told to put it in , that might work to
[00:12] <justdave> So grub doesn't handle EFI by itself yet I take it?  Still need rEFIt to put Ubuntu on a Mac Mini?
[00:12] <zelrikriando> jesusfreak940: lots of things
[00:12] <Pelo> psycardis, I'm only guessing but yes
[00:12] <Darmuth> Jesusfreak run a complete operating system on a 700 MB CD?? :P
[00:12] <Wyzard> jesusfreak940: be downloaded for free without violating copyright laws, for starters  :-)
[00:12] <cdm10> aLeSD: that should work, but if not, you can view saved passwords in  Applications>Accessories>Passwords and Encryption Keys
[00:12] <SilverReadman> Ubuntu has a much more visually appealing enviroment~
[00:13] <kklimonda> anyone know from practice how much of the swap space is needed to hibernate system with 4GB ram?
[00:13] <ForzaPalermo> how can u get flash to work in a 32bit firefox using ubuntu 64
[00:13] <cdm10> kklimonda: well, at least 4 GB, for sure
[00:13] <Wyzard> kklimonda: however much of your RAM is actually in-use
[00:13] <jesusfreak940> Wyzard - Am running unbuntu now
[00:13] <lekremyelsew> cdm10 have u seen this before?
[00:13] <cdm10> kklimonda: to be sure.
[00:13] <aLeSD> cdm10: thanks
[00:13] <cdm10> lekremyelsew: have I seen what?
[00:13] <cdm10> lekremyelsew: oh, flash issues?
[00:13] <Pelo> zelrikriando,  ok look at lines 63 to 65 and at lines 66 to 70 ,   see you have lines missing in the first set,   add a Viewport 0 0 and Depth 24
[00:13] <lekremyelsew> cdm10: the flash not work
[00:13] <SilverReadman> JesusFreak ~ All of the programs are open source, and the security is much more complete without annoying you.
[00:13] <kklimonda> Wyzard: but will 4GB be enough? it's still way to much but i could live with that..
[00:13] <lekremyelsew> cdm10: yeah
[00:13] <jesusfreak940> I rather run this program then windows xp or vista
[00:13] <osama> I have never gotten wireless to work in Gutsy/Hardy ... Ran Hardy on an HP dv5000, did not detect any networks while XP on the same machine finds 3...
[00:14] <xb3rt> how do i tell if my laptop has bluetooth capabilities
[00:14] <cdm10> lekremyelsew: well, no... my flash works with or without the package. It might work for you with the package, though, because it'll force it to go through PulseAudio.
[00:14] <SilverReadman> Does the card work?
[00:14] <Wyzard> kklimonda: I doubt you'll actually need 4GB unless all your RAM is actually "full"
[00:14] <Darmuth> xb3rt look at the specs
[00:14] <howapt> Pelo: you
[00:14] <Wyzard> kklimonda: but I'd allocate enough for that, just to make sure
[00:14] <Pelo> xb3rt, check the makers brochure
[00:14] <Darmuth> It should tell you if it has bluetooth
[00:14] <Pelo> !ops | howapt
[00:14] <ubotu> howapt: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpatrick or jussi01!
[00:14] <jesusfreak940> Wyzard What would help unubutu run faster?
[00:14] <zelrikriando> Pelo: I restart x?
[00:14] <kklimonda> i wonder if ubuntu will ever switch to TuxOnIce.. setting 4GB of swap these days isn't really funny :/
[00:14] <xb3rt> Darmuth, is their a command to check the specs
[00:15] <Pelo> zelrikriando, yep
[00:15] <foxhop> Pulse audio is rocking by the way... I can now listen to MP3's and use teamspeak
[00:15] <MidgetSpy> Hey all I'm following the instructions here (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=311158) to recompile my kernel on 8.04 server install, and when I get to the "make-kpkg clean" it's failing looking for a Makefile for the xen architecture. Does that thread not apply to 8.04 or have I missed something?
[00:15] <melee> Dial_tone: sorry for the late response, but yes I do have files shared on windows
[00:15] <Pelo> MidgetSpy, make-dpkg clean maybe
[00:15] <Darmuth> xb3rt I think there is a program for it but I would just go to the manufacturers website and look at the spec sheet
[00:15] <themoebius_> I'm following a guide to get video working on the mac book pro wit ATI and I installed xorg-driver-fglrx_8.471-0*.deb but when I rebooted, update manager says it has a newer version. But the version number is 1:7.10-8-3+<IP_ADDRESS>-16.34. So which one should I use? the one the guide said to download or th one the repos claim is newer?
[00:15] <lch> melee: did you check "places->network" menu?
[00:16] <SilverReadman> Kay guys, I'm setting up my wifi card for Heron, I installed ndiswrapper and ndisgtk, and then I opened the program. Here I encountered my first problem, as I don't know where to find the driver for my wireless card
[00:16] <melee> I can access them, actually, if I type in the whole directory
[00:16] <kklimonda> Wyzard, cdm10: thanks for answers. living with amd64 Ubuntu is too painful.. poor flash ;]
[00:16] <melee> but just typing in "smb://computer/" in nautilus displays nothing
[00:16]  * howapt is staggered
[00:16] <jesusfreak940> does more ram mean faster linux?
[00:16] <ezzieyguywu1> when i trigger suspend in ubuntu, I want it to run "metacity --replace" before it starts suspending and "compiz --replace" after it resumes. can someone help me with this? I tried editing "/usr/sbin/pm-suspend" with "metacity --replace &" in the first line in order to accomlish the first half of this, but it does not seem to be working. any ideas?
[00:16] <SilverReadman> Any body know where to get the driver for it?
[00:16] <Pelo> themoebius_, the guide was probably made before the new package came out , so try the new one ,  no garranties howver
[00:16] <Wyzard> kklimonda: I don't really miss Flash much...  most of the Flash stuff I see on the web is stupid animated banner ads that waste CPU anyway
[00:16] <pinno> whats a good torrent program to use ?
[00:16] <melee> typing in "smb://computer/games/" also does not, but "smb://computer/games/snes/" does
[00:17] <LainIwakura> pinno: you can try transmission, deluge, azeurues
[00:17] <melee> even though the games folder is shared, not the snes subdirectory
[00:17] <Pelo> pinno, transmission is good and preinstalled in hardy
[00:17] <demonspork> Hello, on my Ubuntu 8.04 install running c-f, I get random mouse drifts, the mouse will just randomly move halfway across the screen while I am using it or sometimes even when I am not. What can I do to fix this
[00:17] <Gnine> !torrent | pinno
[00:17] <ubotu> pinno: Torrent clients: Transmission (GTK and terminal-based), Deluge-Torrent, Freeloader, BitStormLite, BitTornado-GUI (GTK), KTorrent (KDE), QTorrent (Qt), Azureus (Java), TorrentFlux (web-based), bittornado, rTorrent, cTorrent, bittorrent, aria2 (terminal-based) - FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html - See also !P2P
[00:17] <zelrikriando> ok
[00:17] <pinno> kk thanks
[00:17] <zelrikriando> no much improvement
[00:17] <ChaosTheory_> How do I make the toolbar width percent go *up* in Fluxbox?
[00:17] <Pelo> zelrikriando, hyou did add the lines right ?
[00:17] <Darmuth> kklimonda I have a AMD 64 but I am running a dual-boot with both Windows and Ubuntu at 32-bits
[00:17] <LainIwakura> ChaosTheory_: right click
[00:17] <SilverReadman> Anybody know where to find the driver for a wireless card?
[00:17] <zelrikriando> Pelo: I did
[00:17] <SilverReadman> ;.;
[00:18] <StFS> hello.. I'm trying to figure out a way to create an ISO with a setup for a specific laptop type. I'd like the end user only to have to supply his username and password, everything else (network, xorg.conf etc) should be configured already.
[00:18] <themoebius_> Pelo: Ok. also, I thought fglrx drivers were supposed to be proprietary so what are they doing in the ubuntu repos?
[00:18] <Wyzard> SilverReadman: for Windows drivers, look on the card manufacturer's website
[00:18] <IndyGunFreak> kklimonda: i agree, just use 32bit, your headaches go away
[00:18] <ChaosTheory_> Awesome. Thanks.
[00:18] <LainIwakura> np
[00:18] <Pelo> zelrikriando, rename your current xorg.conf,  restart x , it iwll fail,  run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and lets see what it comes up with
[00:18] <kklimonda> Wyzard: well, i don't miss it too much but sometimes i need it for some tests or youtube movies. and there is nothing like a good flash ad ;]
[00:18] <cdm10> pinno: try Transmission if you want something easy, small, and fast, and Deluge if you want something more powerful. Azureus can be slow and buggy, but it's ridiculously powerful.
[00:18] <Pelo> themoebius_, I have no idea
[00:18] <Darmuth> Silver I would google the driver and add Linux and see what you find
[00:18] <Wyzard> kklimonda: On those occasions I use my 32-bit laptop, or boot a 32-bit OS in VMware
[00:19] <pen> how to remove vhba-module-1.0.0??
[00:19] <pen> it's from cdemu
[00:19] <Wyzard> Darmuth: He's looking for a Windows driver, to use with ndiswrapper
[00:19] <pen> I want to remove it
[00:19] <pen> I says It can't
[00:19] <Pelo> pen, look in menu > system > admin < synaptic package manager
[00:19] <SilverReadman> Wyzard: I have the driver installed on Windows, any chance of salvaging it from my drive?
[00:19] <engin> any guide for editing /proc/mtrr table?
[00:19] <pen> Pelo: ok, you mean to fix the package? no... it's not broken. I just can't remove it
[00:19] <MidgetSpy> pelo: I don't have make-dpkg - what package is it in?
[00:20] <Pelo> pen,  you can remove it from there as well
[00:20] <pen> Pelo: it gives me an error message
[00:20] <Odd-rationale> How do I remove "Residual config" packages from the command line, instead of from synaptic?
[00:20] <kklimonda> Darmuth: i have 4GB of ram and Ubuntu doesn't support it without server kernel which has some settings i don't like for a desktop. plus i really hate dual boots as i always end up on a wrong system.
[00:20] <SilverReadman> The only one I can find on the net is a .exe, so I can't open it in Ubuntu, and in XP it just installs a program I already have~
[00:20] <Pelo> MidgetSpy, build-essential maybe,   I was justcorrecting the spelling , it looked wrong to me ,
[00:20] <pen> Pelo: E: vhba-module: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
[00:20] <engin> yep, kklimonda .. the same problem here
[00:20] <MidgetSpy> Pelo: oh, no it's supposed to be make-kpkg.
[00:20] <SilverReadman> kklimoda: What? You just choose the right one from the GRUB list.
[00:21] <arrrghhh> where's the autostart location in ubuntu?  in kubuntu i put it in /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsetup... i'm trying to run x11vnc at login so i can login to machines remotely.  worked great in kubuntu.
[00:21] <Pelo> pen, pen what other packges do you have with vhba in it ?   cdemu is borked btw
[00:21] <jim_beam> after ubuntu 8.04 I can't logoff x hangs and need ctrl alt backspace to get back to login screen
[00:21] <Pelo> MidgetSpy, ok , then , nevermind me
[00:21] <pen> Pelo: what do you mean
[00:21] <WhatTheBen> hi
[00:21] <jim_beam> does any have that prob
[00:21] <Wyzard> SilverReadman: In principle it may be possible, but I have no idea where to look on the Windows drive to find the necessary files
[00:21] <pen> Pelo: vhba is the only package related to cdemu
[00:21] <Pelo> arrrghhh, in  /etc/rc.local or in  ~/.config/autostart
[00:21] <pen> Pelo: I can't remove it
[00:22] <CITguy08> can anybody help me configure a wacom tablet?
[00:22] <Pelo> pen, try reinstalling it , and removing after
[00:22] <Pelo> !wacom | CITguy08
[00:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wacom - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[00:22] <SeaPhor_> SilverReadman, what model and chipstet is your card?
[00:22] <WhatTheBen> having trouble with firefox on 7.10
[00:22] <Pelo> damit
[00:22] <lekremyelsew> cdm10: thx it works now :) and there is no delay!
[00:22] <pen> Pelo: I tried. The problem is that it can't even intsall
[00:22] <Deepthought> jim_beam: did you get a note-window saying 'failed to initialise hal'  at startup of gnome ?
[00:22] <pen> Pelo: it says something with the kernel image src
[00:22] <cdm10> lekremyelsew: that's what I thought, but it's noticeable in some games... anyway, if you can't notice it, that's great :)
[00:23] <arrrghhh> Pelo, ok ~/.config/autostart doesn't run it soon enough.  i'll try /etc/rc.local
[00:23] <jim_beam> no
[00:23] <zelrikriando> Pelo: it didnt fail !!!
[00:23] <jim_beam> hal works
[00:23] <lekremyelsew> cdm10 is there a way to fix it without the workaround, or will the developers fix it in the future?
[00:23] <Pelo> pen, in the terminal type  lsmod  find the vhba module in there , note the spelling,    then  sudo modprobe -r  modulename
[00:23] <cdm10> lekremyelsew: i dunno... mine worked without it. Sound didn't go through Pulse, but it worked anyway.
[00:23] <Pelo> zelrikriando, did it make a new xorg.conf ?
[00:24] <zelrikriando> Pelo: no
[00:24] <zelrikriando> :O
[00:24] <lekremyelsew> cdm10: lucky, did u install a clean copy or upgrade?
[00:24] <zelrikriando> I have a xorg.conf~ though
[00:24] <cdm10> lekremyelsew: upgrade.
[00:24] <demonspork> Hello, on my Ubuntu 8.04 install running c-f, I get random mouse drifts, the mouse will just randomly move halfway across the screen while I am using it or sometimes even when I am not. What can I do to fix this
[00:24] <Pelo> zelrikriando, try this ,  restart the comp, not just x   it's bound to fail then
[00:24] <laeg> !codec
[00:24] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[00:24] <pen> Pelo: nothing display
[00:24] <Deepthought> then it's not what I thought; there is/was a bug in hardy that failed to initialise all hardware due to tv-card; among that hardware powermanagement hence no shutdown, but if you don' t have a tv-card and not that message it's something else, sorry - good luck !
[00:24] <foxhop> demonspork: Lappy or Desktop?
[00:24] <Pelo> zelrikriando,  I doubt it looks for backup files
[00:25] <Pelo> pen, lsmod doesn'T dysplay anything ? that is impossible
[00:25] <demonspork> foxhop, desktop and it is a software problem, same result with different mice
[00:25] <SilverReadman_> Wyzard: ;.; The only driver I can find on the net is a .exe file, which upon executing in windows installs the belkin wireless utility, so is that the driver?
[00:25] <matt_4982> #Cedega
[00:25] <Pelo> matt_4982,   /join #cedega
[00:25] <foxhop> usb?
[00:26] <hyjal> Anyone else having trouble with FF3 on hardy? It freezes for several seconds on occations. And it's unresponsive when I load several youtube clips in different tabs
[00:26] <Wyzard> SilverReadman: Sounds like it, though it's a bit of an annoyance if that's the only way it's available
[00:26] <pen> Pelo: I can't find that module in lsmod
[00:26]  * Pelo is annoyed by the smell of propane BBQ drifting through his window
[00:26] <foxhop> demonspork: USB / Wireless / PS2? Optical
[00:26] <SilverReadman_> Wyzard: Should I look somewhere else?
[00:26] <WhatTheBen> hyjal, i'm having probs with ff
[00:26] <kklimonda> hyjal: same here..
[00:26] <Wyzard> SilverReadman: when you run the .exe in Windows, it probably extracts the actual driver files to a temporary directory somewhere, and then runs the real installer from the temporary directory
[00:26] <Pelo> pen, ok lets try   sudo apt-get remove  vhba-module --force
[00:26] <demonspork> foxhop, USB optical mice are what I am using
[00:26] <Jordan_U> hyjal, The problem with multiple youtube clips is most likely flash
[00:26] <kklimonda> hyjal: at least part with short freezes.. ;]
[00:26] <akh3n4t0n> Pelo, can you help me, please? i have an issue with omnibook module [which enables bluetooth on my laptop]: after resuming from hibernation the module must be reloaded [modprobe -r && modprobe]; can i somehow tell ubuntu to do this automatically after resuming from hibernation? thanks
[00:27] <foxhop> demonspork: Try a differnet port?
[00:27] <demonspork> foxhop, and I don't have the problem in 7.10 or windows
[00:27] <hyjal> hm =) maybe it's best to go back to ff2 for a while
[00:27] <demonspork> foxhop, yes
[00:27] <pen> Pelo: still the same error message
[00:27] <WhatTheBen> hyjal, i'm having probs with ff2
[00:27] <zelrikriando> Pelo: it s not failing !
[00:27] <Pelo> akh3n4t0n, I have no pull with the devs,  sorry,  I suggest you look it up in the forum  search on reload after resume or someting
[00:27] <zelrikriando> Pelo: amazing hu.?
[00:27] <WhatTheBen> takes ages or doesnt load pages
[00:28] <pen> Pelo: http://rafb.net/p/9B30De32.html
[00:28] <hyjal> Jordan_U: true, but it wasn't like that when I ran ff2 (in gutsy that is)
[00:28] <Derspankster> Can't believe they put a Beta in a new release.
[00:28] <Miesco> Okay im purchasing a copy of Hardy at the same time as purchasing my DELL XPS 1520.  Im at this page: http://www.thelinuxstore.ca/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=41_47&products_id=1540   now, what is PCC and what is i386?
[00:28] <enaner> I have  a Old DELL INSPIRON 5000, and when i try to install XUBUNTU, it says ... "This kernel requires an x86-64 CPU, but only detectd an i686 CPU. Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU". What Should I DO?
[00:28] <Jordan_U> hyjal, Did you upgrade from the Beta?
[00:28] <bya> #ubuntu-fr
[00:28] <reiki> in Hardy... when volumes "automount" you see them in "Places"... is there a way to keep that functionality but give tehm meaningful names? Or would I have to put entries in fstab and mount them that way in order to get the names I want?
[00:28] <Miesco> Also, does it come with stickers
[00:28] <WhatTheBen> bya, join/ #ubuntu-fr
[00:28] <akh3n4t0n> Pelo, thanks anyway; i tried to find something on resuming from hibernation but to no avail :|
[00:28] <Pelo> zelrikriando, astounding, linux is thougher then I would have thought ,    move all the xorg.conf file and backups out of the /etc/X11  folder and try again
[00:28] <Wyzard> enaner: You're trying to boot the 64-bit installer, which your machine doesn't support
[00:29] <ezzieyguywu1> when i trigger suspend in ubuntu, I want it to run "metacity --replace" before it starts suspending and "compiz --replace" after it resumes. can someone help me with this? I tried editing "/usr/sbin/pm-suspend" with "metacity --replace &" in the first line in order to accomlish the first half of this, but it does not seem to be working. any ideas?
[00:29] <zelrikriando> Pelo: ok :p
[00:29] <demonspork> Derspankster, are you talking about firefox? because the firefox beta is in better shape than anything microsoft has ever called a final release
[00:29] <Wyzard> enaner: Use the 32-bit ("i386") one
[00:29] <decay> anyone else has issues with mysql password?
[00:29] <Darmuth> Miesco you can just download a copy instead
[00:29] <enaner> Wyzard: where can i download that version?
[00:29] <Pelo> pen,  did you install vhba-module by  compiling it ?
[00:29] <pen> Pelo: no, from a deb
[00:29] <Derspankster> demonspork: I don't remember mentioning MS?
[00:29] <hyjal> Jordan_U: hm no, I haven't done any updates. It says beta 5 here. Is that not the newest maybe?
[00:29] <Wyzard> enaner: same place you got the 64-bit one
[00:29] <tim167> hello, can anyone help me? all of a sudden no sound anymore when watching youtube, i do have sound in VLC, and i had sound in browser too before... thanks
[00:29] <Jordan_U> Pelo, Are you trying to get X to fail? If so you should know that it is perfectly happy without an xorg.conf in recent versions :)
[00:29] <zelrikriando> ok
[00:29] <Wyzard> enaner: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[00:30] <quaddi> Im having some trouble hosting games (WC3), with UFW, i allowed the port, but its still not allowing me to host. Any ideas?
[00:30] <zelrikriando> now it s gonna fail
[00:30] <koro> hi, i just updated to 8.04 from 7.10, i used to have an option to choose my monitor by brand, model etc, and now i can't find that anywhere, is it no longer available?
[00:30] <demonspork> Derspankster, I was just making a comparison, saying that beta products are not bad, in fact they are usually pretty good
[00:30] <dabbill> Is there a way to make it so every time you mount a CD it displays the icon in the same place on the desktop every time?
[00:30] <foxhop> quiddi sounds like a firewall / router issue
[00:30] <Pelo> Jordan_U, damn the devs , how can we fix things if we can't brake them anymore ?
[00:30] <pen> Pelo: I download the debs from here http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93175&package_id=256719
[00:30] <Pelo> pen, yeah I figures,
[00:30] <Pelo> brb
[00:31] <arrrghhh> Pelo, interesting /etc/rc.local seemed to work, x11vnc is now running... and i always just run it without a password, and it's asking me for a password... and the root password for that machine or the main user's password doesn't work... i can ssh in with a user, but when i vnc:/<IP_ADDRESS> it asks for a pw and rejects any that i've tried.
[00:31] <Jordan_U> Pelo, One good way is to make an xorg.conf with : Driver "muahahahahahahahaha!"
[00:31] <demonspork> dabbill, mount a cd and drag and drop the icon where you want it, then when you mount a cd in that drive again, the icon should appear in the same spot as your moved it to
[00:31] <enaner> thank you Wyzard ... i am downloading the alternate 1386
[00:31] <Derspankster> demonspark: yeah, FF3 beta isn't bad, should be very good when it's final. Just didn't think they'd release with a Beta. A lot of people had FF2 extensions that they relied on.
[00:31] <Wyzard> enaner: The alternate one may not be what you want
[00:31] <koro> anyone?
[00:31] <hyjal> tim167: I can't help you, but I'm having the same problem as you quite frequently. I haven't found any other solution than relogging.
[00:32] <Jordan_U> Derspankster, You can still install FF2, it's in universe I believe
[00:32] <Wyzard> enaner: That's a plain text-based installer, rather than a liveCD and graphical installer
[00:32] <adubz> is there a way to install .sis files for nokia phones in linux
[00:32] <koro> also emerald theme manager completely stopped working
[00:32] <koro> it opens up and lets me choose the theme but it doesn't do anything
[00:32] <yuri_> I'm trying to convert a postscript file (.ps) to a pdf as quickly as possible. any ideas?
[00:32] <ahboy> hey guys im remastering eeebuntu to fit on my eee 2g computer i was wondering how to list all packages so i can remove them
[00:32] <dabbill> demonspork, where do i drag it from? the places menu? or out of nautilus?
[00:32] <Pelo> arrrghhh, no idea what you just said
[00:32] <reiki> in Hardy... when volumes "automount" you see them in "Places"... is there a way to keep that functionality but give tehm meaningful names? Or would I have to put entries in fstab and mount them that way in order to get the names I want?
[00:32] <koro> but this is irrelevant compared to the fact that my screen resolution is wrong and i can't find the menu to choose my monitor anywhere
[00:32] <GoodJob> hello
[00:32] <Derspankster> Jordan_U: yes, I know. But, how can you go back to the farm once you've seen the Big City?
[00:32] <Pelo> Jordan_U, ;-)
[00:32] <demonspork> koro, hit alt+f2 and type "emerald --replace" and see what happens
[00:32] <pen> Pelo: why I can install it in the first time then i can't remove it after?
[00:32] <enaner> Wyzard: is there a set of instructions I can follow, or can you help me ... cuz it's 92% done already i would hate to cancel
[00:32] <kastrapo> hi there
[00:32] <koro> hey that worked
[00:32] <ahboy> wait wait i got it
[00:33] <demonspork> dabbill, drag the icon that should show up on the desktop
[00:33] <GoodJob> please do  /whois GoodJob  and please tell me what you get
[00:33] <Wyzard> enaner: There's nothing wrong with it (as an advanced user I prefer it, actually) but I don't want you to think that the "alternate" CD is what's needed for a 32-bit machine
[00:33] <Pelo> zelrikriando, well now taht you donT have an xorg.conf   try reconfgure and see what xorg.conf it comes up with
[00:33] <koro> demonspork: is that permanent?
[00:33] <zelrikriando> Pelo: still not failing....hardy heron is tough !
[00:33] <mkquist_> help w/nvidia drivers? just upgraded and cant seem to get 6800gt working past 800x600..  tried enabling, unenabling the redo, no go
[00:33] <ahboy> now is this important? to the system that is.. 120592 adobereader-enu
[00:33] <ferris_> I need a voice recognition to translate it spoken word into text in a text editor.... any advice?
[00:33] <arrrghhh> Pelo, uhm... the /etc/rc.local location seemed to lick the problem, but now x11vnc is running and asking for a password when it never has before...
[00:33] <dabbill> demonspork, i drag it to where i want it, but every time i put in a different CD it moves back to the top left of my desktop
[00:33] <koro> demonspork: or should i modify some config file to make that permanent?
[00:33] <psycardis> how can I see what's using a module?
[00:33] <Pelo> pen, becaue the package was badly made,   I suggest you do a search for vhba and  manualy delete everyting you find
[00:33] <Wyzard> enaner: You've downloaded 92% of a 700MB file in two minutes?
[00:33] <enaner> Wyzard:  is it that much harder?
[00:33] <saminthemiddle> hey guys, I'm having a problem with libdvdcss2, I'm using totem-xine and it says that it can't play it because libdvdcss2 isn't installed when it is. I'm running 64bit hardy
[00:33] <hyjal> reiki: I've added my volumes to fstab now, but they still have the stupid names in Places :P
[00:33] <demonspork> koro, no it is not, but if you add it to you "Session" then it will become permanent
[00:33] <koro> mkquist_: i have a similar problem, i can't find the menu where you choose what monitor you're using
[00:33] <pen> Pelo: the included files only contains a .c file
[00:34] <reiki> hyjal: that seems a bit odd doesn't it?
[00:34] <reiki> :)
[00:34] <Wyzard> enaner: No, not really...  some people just get intimidated by things that aren't graphical
[00:34] <Pelo> arrrghhh, odd I always assumed that suff in /etc/rc.local automaticaly ran as root
[00:34] <Jordan_U> ferris_, Unfortunately I think the best option is to run something like Dragon Naturally speaking in wine :(
[00:34] <mkquist> koro - well thats just system, preferences, screen reslolution.. look there
[00:34] <enaner> Wyzard:  no i was already downloading it bcz of the "Alternate" not because of i386... bcz i was having trouble wit ubuntu and regular xubuntu ...
[00:34] <kastrapo> I'm having a problem with the soundcard on Hardy... when I watch something on flash, it seems to lock the soundcard so I don't have sound on any other app, like mp3s or so
[00:34] <koro> demonspork: thanks
[00:34] <Pelo> pen, I don'T know then , sorry
[00:34] <akh3n4t0n> after resume [from STR] i have to unload the bluetooth module for my system [omnibook module] and load it again; how can i make this work automatically [unload the module before suspend and load it again after resume]? i tried to put omnibook in MODULES [file /etc/default/acpi-support] but to no avail [and i think maybe this only works for suspend/resume and not for hibernate/resume]; can anybody , please, help me with this?
[00:34] <arrrghhh> Pelo, do i put "sudo" before the command then?!?
[00:34] <Wyzard> enaner: The process is basically the same; it just looks different
[00:34] <andre_pl> i get a quick flicker every 20 seconds or so with hardy, I never had this with any other ubuntu since dapper, and not even with the hardy betas.
[00:34] <zelrikriando> is it normal is my computer isnt crashing without any xorg.conf* in my /etc/X11/ directory ?
[00:34] <tim167> hyjal: hm i found my problem: the volume slider in youtube was way down! and it remembers its position even after closing and reopening firefox!, also it never works while i have another program open that uses sound at the same time...
[00:34] <Pelo> arrrghhh, try , can'T hurt
[00:34] <zelrikriando> if*
[00:34] <ahboy> anyone know if this is important to the operation of our system 120592 adobereader-enu
[00:34] <Jordan_U> Pelo, It doesn't?
[00:34] <enaner> Wyzard:  thank you for your help =]
[00:34] <Wyzard> enaner: If you're already downloading it, make sure you're not getting the 64-bit alternate CD; you'll have the same problem with that one
[00:34] <koro> mkquist: no, that only gives a menu to choose among the available resolutions, which are based (or used to be in 7.10 anyway) in the monitor you chose
[00:35] <xubean> hey guys, i'm having trouble upgrading to hardy, it's really weird I get an error that says that I need to clear up space in "/" folder, but the hard drive has more than enough space to install ubuntu... any ideas..???
[00:35] <ferris_> Jordan_U, thanks I can just use Vista then... thanks
[00:35] <koro> what i'm trying to do is run the application that lets you choose the right m onitor
[00:35] <arrrghhh> rebooting machine now... ssh always works great :)
[00:35] <hyjal> reiki: I don't know if it's odd, I'm not really familiar with this.:P At least I got them to automount on boot by putting them in fstab
[00:35] <chaqu1> ive been trying to get my hands on a fun open source game, they all seem to drop a .sh file on my desktop what can i do with it?
[00:35] <koro> it showed all possible brands and models
[00:35] <Pelo> zelrikriando, jordan mentions that the new X deosnT' mind if there is no xorg.conf,   the damn thing is uncrashable
[00:35] <mkquist> koro: youll probably have to reconifigure xorg, have you tried that?
[00:35] <enaner> Wyzard:  fortunately its i386 =]
[00:35] <Pelo> psycardis, so basicaly it's working now ? it's fixed ?
[00:35] <zelrikriando> Pelo: ok
[00:35] <_neon_3> e-sata hd how can i auto mount it everytime i boot, instead of going thru settings/advance/disk&filesystem to enable it
[00:35] <koro> mkquist: no, i was reticent to do that since i didn't have to in 7.10 and i doubted that they would have removed such a nice feature
[00:35] <DaySleeper555> uncrashable X?
[00:35] <koro> did they?
[00:36] <ommegang> i installed the restricted formats for ubuntu 64bit and i cant get mp3/aac to show up as a choice in the cd ripper did i miss something
[00:36] <zelrikriando> Pelo: "Hardy" is a good adjective for that one :)
[00:36] <xubean>  hey guys, i'm having trouble upgrading to hardy, it's really weird I get an error that says that I need to clear up space in "/" folder, but the hard drive has more than enough space to install ubuntu... any ideas..???
[00:36] <koro> i mean, do you know what application i'm taling about?
[00:36] <Pelo> and psycardis  it's not a good idea to ask questions with /notice  , if other ppl can put in there two cents they can'T ,  only use /notice for   offtopic comments with your pals
[00:36] <koro> i don't recal exactly in what menu it was located, but probably system-> administration -> monitor or something
[00:36] <chaqu1> anyone?
[00:36] <arrrghhh> it'll create a new xorg.conf if there isn't one present.
[00:36] <Wyzard> xubean: What does "df -h /" show for your root filesystem?
[00:36] <koro> maybe display
[00:36] <GIn> why does the firefox window become black randomly?
[00:36] <Andronicus> what's the preferred irc client?
[00:36] <laeg> Andronicus: irssi
[00:36] <koro> irssi
[00:36] <laeg> koro: snap!
[00:37] <aLeSD> mmm
[00:37] <Blaenk> Andronicus: xchat
[00:37] <Johnny_5> Andronicus: xchat
[00:37] <Pelo> arrrghhh, I was counting on that but it didn'T it just laughed at us and went on working as if nothing happened
[00:37] <MarcN> Andronicus: pidgin is a fine irc client
[00:37] <psycardis> How can I see what's using a module?
[00:37] <laeg> xchat is for people still clinging to windows
[00:37] <laeg> irssi is for penguin pimps.
[00:37] <mkquist> koro: yeah, know what you mean, what kinda card u running gfx wise?
[00:37] <psycardis> Adronicus: I use pidgin
[00:37] <rod0009> hi
[00:37] <rod0009> anyone can help me?
[00:37] <LainIwakura> Andronicus: irssi
[00:37] <MidgetSpy> Pelo: turns out you have to disable paravirtualization or kpkg fails... hm
[00:37] <xubean> it shows 1.5 g avail out of 9.4G that's 85%
[00:37] <Derspankster> laeg: I LIKE X Chat - never even used it in Windows.
[00:37] <Pelo> psycardis, man modprobe see what options you have
[00:37] <koro> mkquist: nvidia geforce 8800gt
[00:38] <ommegang> how do i get mp3 working in sound juicer? ubuntu 64bit
[00:38] <koro> mkquist: but why is this relevant?
[00:38] <chaqu1> how do i install games on linux?
[00:38] <mkquist> koro: just curious
[00:38] <DaySleeper555> Always only Chatzilla :)
[00:38] <pen> Pelo: how to remove the packages name from the synaptics?
[00:38] <xubean> wyzard: it shows 1.5 g avail out of 9.4G that's 85%
[00:38] <laeg> Derspankster: you've missed the point
[00:38] <Wyzard> xubean: That 1.5GB probably isn't enough for the upgrade
[00:38] <chaqu1> im trying to install vendetta
[00:38] <rod0009> anyone can hlep me install USB?
[00:38] <demonspork> in 8.04, whenever I boot the system networking doesn't work. The only way I can get it to work correctly is to unload the forcedeth kernel module (the nvidia LAN driver) and reload it with the options "msi=0 msix=0". I tried adding those options to the /etc/modprobe.d/options file, but it doesn't seem to work and I still have to reload it manually. What can I do to fix this?
[00:38] <Pelo> MidgetSpy, that is so far over my head I can'T even see it
[00:38] <pen> Pelo: i want to remove the name and reinstall then try to remove it
[00:38] <laeg> chaqu1: www.winehq.com
[00:38] <Andronicus> what's the difference between regular xchat and xchat-gnome, just the ui?
[00:38] <Pelo> pen, you can'T
[00:38] <chaqu1> i have the .sh install file
[00:38] <arrrghhh> Pelo, so sudo before the command yielded the same result... strange when i run x11vnc from ssh, i can connect w/o a pw.  when it's running it from rc.local, it asks for a password.  using the same line.
[00:38] <Derspankster> laeg: I did?
[00:38] <LainIwakura> !games | chaqu1
[00:38] <ubotu> chaqu1: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[00:38] <hyjal> tim167: I'm having the problem right now again. No sound plays from flash, and I've checked the volume slider ;) I don't have any other sound apps running
[00:38] <dabbill> demonspork, i drag it to where i want it, but every time i put in a different CD it moves back to the top left of my desktop any way to fix that?
[00:38] <xubean> wyzard: so how can I clean up just the "/" folder, I cleaned up home, usr folder, i don't know how to clean up just the "/" folder
[00:38] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: You can browse in Add/Remove Programs
[00:38] <DG19075> Pidgin user here too: love the multi-protocol
[00:38] <pen> Pelo: why not?
[00:38] <Pelo> arrrghhh, what's the line ?
[00:39] <chaqu1> i already downloaded the .sh file
[00:39] <Wyzard> xubean: Uninstall packages you don't need?
[00:39] <chaqu1> installer.sh
[00:39] <Piteer> anyome install herdy heron on mother board ASUS M2N-MX ????? i'm have problems in installer indentify the hard drive
[00:39] <dermoth> Hi there. The ubuntu upgrade app crashed after a package installation failed. I fixed the problem installing that package, now how do I go about finishing up the install process?
[00:39] <Wyzard> xubean: ...and what did you "clean up" in /usr?
[00:39] <demonspork> dabbill, I don't know, in 7.10 it would just stay where you put it :(
[00:39] <rod0009> can anyone give me some support?
[00:39] <pen> Pelo: I want to make it broken so I can autoremove or perform other actions
[00:39] <Pelo> pen, synaptic displays the avaialbe packages and just checks them when they are installed,  it's not like you can remove the package
[00:39] <psycardis> how can I see what process is using a module?
[00:39] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: Are you able to open that .sh file? Sounds like a standalone
[00:39] <xubean> wyzard: just like old games and files i didn't need...
[00:39] <Mindaxiz> what the difference between 'main menu' in system>pref. and 'menu editor' in apps>other?
[00:39] <dabbill> demonspork, it wouldnt stay put in 7.10 or 8.04 for me
[00:39] <melee> Okay, lets try asking this again.  When I share a folder in Windows, I can't access it from Places->Network.  It can see the computer on the network, but not any of the computer's shared folders.  When I type in "smb://computer/games/snes" it will show me the shared snes roms, but this is inconvenient, and on top of that, zsnes cannot play these roms.  How can I solve both of these problems?
[00:39] <arrrghhh> sudo x11vnc -http -rfbauth 5900 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -display :0 -forever -bg
[00:39] <koro> it is interesting that my xorg.conf shows the monitor as "generic lcd display" and model name "LCD panel 1680x1050" (which is correct) but it does not list the resolution 1680x1050!
[00:39] <pen> Pelo: I mean remove the name of the package from the list so it won't detect as being installed already
[00:39] <tim167> hyjal: they can even be apps running in the background hijacking your soundcard, or another webpage with a flash player..
[00:40] <pen> Pelo: so I can install deb again
[00:40] <arrrghhh> Pelo, sudo x11vnc -http -rfbauth 5900 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -display :0 -forever -bg
[00:40] <Pelo> pen,  I don' t know how,  you can try this,  get the source and compile it manualy then remove it by compiling it in reverse
[00:40] <pen> Pelo: now i only got reinstall option
[00:40] <pen> Pelo: ok
[00:40] <warmexxus> I've got my Hardy Installed, but I cannot figure out how to install NDISWRAPPER, so I can connect to the internet. I don't have all kinds of stuff like GCC, DPKG-DEV, and so on...is this normal?
[00:40] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: Go to that directory and type ./name.sh
[00:40] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: in the terminal
[00:40] <facontro1> alright can someone help me im trying to install an nvidia card and during the install it says unable to find the kernel source tree for the currently running kernel and I cant find the kernel anywhere what do i do
[00:40] <zelrikriando> Pelo: the reconfigure didnt do anything fancy to my graphics
[00:40] <andre_pl> i get a quick flicker every 20 seconds or so with hardy, I never had this with any other ubuntu since dapper, and not even with the hardy betas.
[00:40] <Andronicus> has anyone gotten remote terminal server to successfully connect to a winxp remote desktop in hardy heron?
[00:40] <koro> so anyone else knows where to find the application to configure the monitor by brand/model ?
[00:40] <chaqu1> it says it cannot open that file
[00:40] <Pelo> zelrikriando, did it do anythig fancy to the xorg.conf file ?
[00:40] <zelrikriando> Pelo: everything is like "default"....no Intel or so
[00:40] <jim_beam> is there X server issues in hardy
[00:41] <dermoth> Hi there. The ubuntu upgrade app crashed after a package installation failed. I fixed the problem installing that package, now how do I go about finishing up the install process?
[00:41] <tim167> hyjal: but it still is an annoying problem, i often have to 'sudo killall' something before i get sound from youtube
[00:41] <dabbill> is there a way i can add an icon to my desktop that will be dedicated to my cdrom that will switch between 2 icons weither its mounted or unmounted?
[00:41] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: What are the permissions of that file?
[00:41] <demonspork> in 7.10, the desktop icons for the mounted media would be named after its mount point, but in hardy I can't get the icons to say anything except "62.9 GB Media" even though they are mounted. How to fix this?
[00:41] <Pelo> zelrikriando,  I give up
[00:41] <hyjal> tim167: yes, I guess there is something running in the background, as a relog will always fix the problem for me :/
[00:41] <zelrikriando> Pelo: my xorg.conf is as light as it could bt
[00:41] <chaqu1> sh: Can't open ./vendetta-linux-x-installer.sh
[00:41] <zelrikriando> be
[00:41] <Jordan_U> warmexxus, Yes, Ubuntu does not come with development tools by default
[00:41] <chaqu1> ive tried doing it sudo and user account
[00:41] <rod0009> hey can anyone read me?
[00:41] <_neon_3> e-sata hd how can i auto mount it everytime i boot, instead of going thru settings/advance/disk&filesystem to enable it
[00:41] <xubean> wyzard: it's weird that when I do "df -h /" , it shows me that my root is "/dev/sda3" but when i got to dev in the root folder i don't see sda3?!
[00:41] <Pelo> zelrikriando, come back during the week in the evenings and try to grab a hold of nickrud , he's a dab hand at X
[00:42] <ouellettesr> hello, I need some help with setting up my phone with bluetooth. I followed the ubuntu tutorial and I cant figure it out
[00:42] <chaqu1> ive tried a few games to the same result
[00:42]  * flyback declairs ubuntu 8 a total epic fail
[00:42] <zelrikriando> Pelo: I know nickrud :)
[00:42] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: Install getlibs from here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=474790
[00:42] <Wyzard> xubean: There's no /dev/sda3 device file on your system?
[00:42] <chaqu1> oh yeah
[00:42] <Pelo> arrrghhh, how about makeing a bash script file with that line and putting a link to the .bin fiile in /etc/rc.local ?
[00:42] <chaqu1> your a genius
[00:42] <ouellettesr> this is the error I get Couldn't display "obex://[00:1e:e2:14:d3:fb]". Ceck if the service is available
[00:42] <Jordan_U> koro, I don't think that it's available in Hardy because it was so flakey in Gutsy and did not allow for dynamic changes, you should be able to use your old xorg.conf though
[00:43] <howapt> Does anyone know how to blacklist a wireless AP? I keep connecting to an unprotected network when mine goes down and Id rather not...
[00:43] <koro> ok i'll try that
[00:43] <koro> also there's soemthing bugging me
[00:43] <ommegang> i installed the ubuntu-restricted-extras for hardy 64 but i cant get aac/mp3 to work in sound juicer any ideas
[00:43] <xubean> wyzard: there is one, but it's like a file and not a folder... and it's 0.0 kb
[00:43] <Pelo> arrrghhh, also you could maybe give full  execute permission to the x11vnc file ?maybe
[00:43] <decay> howcome my pidgin and xchat dont blink in the taskbar anymore when i get messages?
[00:43] <koro> i have the restricted nvidia drivers, which i reinstalled after upgrading (i think i needed to do so because of the kernel modules or something)
[00:44] <LainIwakura> decay: Did you disable visual beep?
[00:44] <hyjal> tim167: I killed the pulseaudio process and restarted it manually. now there's sound ^^
[00:44] <Pelo> zelrikriando, if anyone can figure this one out he would be my choice
[00:44] <arrrghhh> Pelo, is that chmodding to 777 or what?
[00:44] <Orbixx> Recently upgraded to Hardy, wireless now does not work. bcm43xx - any known issues?
[00:44] <koro> but when i go to "hardware drivers" it shows up as "not in use" with a red dot
[00:44] <Pelo> arrrghhh, that's what I was thinking yes
[00:44] <zelrikriando> Pelo: ok :)
[00:44] <koro> any idea why this is?
[00:44] <decay> LainIwakura: don't think so
[00:44] <Wyzard> howapt: NetworkManager only automatically connects to wireless networks that you've connected to in the past...  it keeps a list of networks that it thinks are OK to connect to
[00:44] <koro> it certainly looks like i do have hardware acceleration, but i wonder why it says it's not in use
[00:44] <koro> if not then what driver is it using, how can i check that?
[00:44] <Jordan_U> Orbixx, Have you tried System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers?
[00:44] <zelrikriando> Pelo: it seems I cannot break my video settings now...so I ll be fine waiting :)
[00:44] <dabbill> is there a way i can add an icon to my desktop that will be dedicated to my cdrom that will switch between 2 icons weither its mounted or unmounted?
[00:45] <pen> Pelo: this is what I get with make
[00:45] <koro> (xorg.conf says "nvidia")
[00:45] <Pelo> koro, can't you just check it ?  by clicking on it ?
[00:45] <pen> Pelo: make -C /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build M=`pwd` modules
[00:45] <pen> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-16-generic'
[00:45] <pen> scripts/Makefile.build:46: *** CFLAGS was changed in "/home/penn/Downloads/CDEmu/vhba-module-1.0.0/Makefile". Fix it to use EXTRA_CFLAGS.  Stop.
[00:45] <pen> make[1]: *** [_module_/home/penn/Downloads/CDEmu/vhba-module-1.0.0] Error 2
[00:45] <pen> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-16-generic'
[00:45] <FloodBot2> pen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:45] <rod0009> hey do i need to log in as root to make my usb work?
[00:45] <Orbixx> Jordan_U: It says it's there, enabled and working. But it's not. wlan0 exists, but it finds no wireless access points.
[00:45] <psycardis> Ok, I need to change the way ubuntu inializes a device, change the order of the modules how can I do this?
[00:45] <LainIwakura> decay: right click pidgin and check blink on new message
[00:45] <Wyzard> howapt: If you want to remove the unprotected network from that list, right-click the NetworkManager icon (the one near the clock that shows your wireless signal strength) and pick "edit wireless networks"
[00:45] <koro> Pelo: the checkbox is checked, but under "status" it has a red dot and says "not in use"
[00:45] <rod0009> koro
[00:45] <Pelo> pen, the package it broken , that was my last suggesiton I kno of no other way to fix it , sorry
[00:45] <jim_beam> Deepthought are u there
[00:45] <koro> i don't see a way to enable it
[00:45] <Wyzard> xubean: That's normal
[00:45] <rod0009> koro
[00:45] <alex_mayorga> is there a modeline calculator for xorg?
[00:45] <LainIwakura> decay: same thing for xchat
[00:45] <rod0009> help me out whit something
[00:45] <koro> rod0009 yes?
[00:45] <chaqu1> lainlwakura: it still can't open
[00:45] <Pelo> koro, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  then restart x
[00:46] <Wyzard> xubean: /dev/sda3 is a device file which represents the raw bytes of the drive
[00:46] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: check out this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4796533#post4796533
[00:46] <koro> Pelo: ok but it asks some questions that i don't know how to answer
[00:46] <koro> shoiuld i take the defaults?
[00:46] <Azverkan> Is there any documentation on how to get packages promoted from universe to main?
[00:46] <Wyzard> xubean: Seeing the files within it happens by mounting it, which is already done, in this case on /
[00:46] <Pelo> koro, leave the defaults
[00:46] <koro> ok i'll try that, brb
[00:46] <Pelo> koro, whatversion of ubuntu are you running ?
[00:46] <xubean> wyzard: oh ok.. so how can i free up space in "/" ? i try to remove old packages? from synaptic package remover?
[00:46] <koro> i just updated from 7.10 to 8.04, that's what caused all the havoc
[00:46] <xubean> wyzard: but I've already removed as much as i can!
[00:46] <decay> LainIwakura: thank you. that was it for pidgin. Xchat is actually working
[00:47] <Pelo> xubean, try cleaning up  /var/cache/apt/archives
[00:47] <LainIwakura> decay: ok
[00:47] <icesword> pen: ²âÊÔ
[00:47] <MarcN> xubean: try apt-get autoclean
[00:47] <arrrghhh> Pelo, x11vnc is still asking for a password... this makes no sense!
[00:47] <Jordan_U> Orbixx, try "sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter"
[00:47] <xubean> pelo: just delete stuff from there?
[00:47] <decay> LainIwakura: thank you.
[00:47] <chaqu1> i am a total newb, so i dont know how to bash them other then a way which will make my computer unuseable
[00:47] <psycardis> Ok, I need to change the way ubuntu inializes a device, change the order of the modules how can I do this?
[00:47] <pen> icesword: ?
[00:47] <howapt> Wyzard: That did the trick :) many thanks
[00:47] <enaner> Wyzard:  i am now beginning the process
[00:47] <Pelo> arrrghhh, is this on a remote machine ?
[00:47] <xubean> MarcN: I did do autoclean, but I need to cleanup 450 mb, and not just a few mbs
[00:47] <Pelo> xubean, yes
[00:48] <beernutz> Wyzard: do you know if you can UPGRADE to 64bit -desktop?  i dont want to lost all my settigs and such from the 32bit -server i have now
[00:48] <arrrghhh> Pelo, yes, i'm trying to have x11vnc run persistently so when a machine reboots i can still vnc in and login.
[00:48] <Wyzard> xubean: Yes, uninstall stuff you don't need
[00:48] <MarcN> xubean: do you have the development tools installed?  Remove them and add them afer upgrading.  KDE too if you have it installed.
[00:48] <Wyzard> beernutz: You can't "upgrade" from 32-bit to 64-bit
[00:48] <icesword> pen:can you see it, it means test
[00:48] <Wyzard> beernutz: need to reinstall
[00:48] <Atomic_UE> There seems to be a problem with NetworkManager unable to connect (atleast via wifi) if I use macchanger to change the mac address of my wifi card. It only wants to work if the mac address is set to the default factory one
[00:48] <arrrghhh> i have this working beautifully on my kubuntu machine.  now i'm trying to replicate that success in a plain ubuntu machine
[00:48] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: are you in the directory of the .sh file when you run ./xxx.sh ?
[00:48] <ommegang> how can i get the restricted formats working under 64bit?
[00:48] <IntangibleLiquid> morning guys
[00:48] <pen> icesword: I can't read it.
[00:48] <Pelo> arrrghhh, maybe you can hve it run in a lower rc level ,
[00:49] <psycardis> Ok, I need to change the way ubuntu inializes a device, change the order of the modules how can I do this?
[00:49] <alexbe01> okay, it's official
[00:49] <icesword> penkk
[00:49] <beernutz> Wyzard: wonderful
[00:49] <alexbe01> ff3b5 hates me
[00:49] <psycardis> good morning intangible
[00:49] <arrrghhh> Pelo, ok... in kde i have the run line in /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsetup
[00:49] <xubean> marcn: oh yeah, i could remove kde i guess... what's the command for that, if you know that?
[00:49] <alexbe01> i have disabled *everything*, and it absolutely will not remember any bookmarks
[00:49] <alexbe01> it reverts to the default bookmarks every time
[00:49] <jim_beam> after ubuntu 8.04 I can't logoff x hangs and need ctrl alt backspace to get back to login screen
[00:49] <beernutz> Wyzard: may i PM you?
[00:49] <Wyzard> psycardis: That's possible with some configuration trickery, but to potentially save you some unnecessary work:  why do you think you need to do that?
[00:49] <Wyzard> beernutz: What for?
[00:49] <DASPRiD|lazy> really strange, after the update to hardy, the included card games don't run smooth anymore. it takes the cpu a lot of power to move the cards around
[00:49] <tgm4883_laptop> what package is gnome-display-properties in?
[00:50] <Pelo> arrrghhh, youwould have to run the same in gnome I guess ,
[00:50] <factotum> so, anyone else get the "Could not calculate the upgrade" error when trying to update to 8.04??
[00:50] <beernutz> Wyzard: some more specific questions that i dont think apply to anyone but me
[00:50] <chaqu1> yes i am
[00:50] <chaqu1> :-(
[00:50] <IntangibleLiquid> I have a built-in webcam, but dont know where to begin with the setup. Is it complicated?
[00:50] <Jordan_U> alexbe01, Does it remember anything else? Perhaps the DB it keeps things stored in has screwed up permissions?
[00:50] <jim_beam> xorg.conf ok
[00:50] <pclynch> removing a whole folder with contents is "rm ... what?"
[00:50] <Wyzard> beernutz: Ask in the channel anyway; that way I'm not the only one who can answer
[00:50] <alexbe01> beernutz, all questions get asked here, you have no idea who might be having the same problem :)
[00:50] <Pelo> ok I'M out for now , later folks
[00:50] <MarcN> xubean: Try: dpkg --list |grep kde   and then apt-get remove kde or kde-base or whatever
[00:50] <factotum> i checked up on it and its been filed as a bug
[00:50] <IntangibleLiquid> !webcam
[00:50] <ubotu> Instructions for using webcams with Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam - Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[00:51] <Jordan_U> IntangibleLiquid, It really depends on the webcam, some work out of the box, others just require firmware to work, the rest are generally PITA
[00:51] <Atomic_UE> There seems to be a problem with NetworkManager unable to connect (atleast via wifi) if I use macchanger to change the mac address of my wifi card. It only wants to work if the mac address is set to the default factory one. It all worked perfectly fine in Gutsy, but it's not so happy in Hardy
[00:51] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: what is the name of the .sh file?
[00:51] <pclynch> whats the command to delete a folder with contents?
[00:51] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: is it an installer?
[00:51] <dabbill> is there a way i can add an icon to my desktop that will be dedicated to my cdrom that will switch between 2 icons weither its mounted or unmounted?
[00:51] <enaner> Wyzard: everytime i open"Movie Player" my screen goes dark and everything stops ... what should I do??
[00:51] <chaqu1> vendetta-linux-amd64-installer.sh
[00:51] <IntangibleLiquid> Jordan_U: thanks. I'm reading the website ubotu gave me
[00:51] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: ah ok
[00:51] <factotum> i dont know why, but i have never been able to upgrade to newer releases, I always have to go and do a clean install
[00:52] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: type sh ./vendetta-linux... .sh
[00:52] <theholyduck> enaner, use mplayer instead?
[00:52] <theholyduck> :P
[00:52] <JapyDooge> !vista
[00:52] <ubotu> Vista is a recent version of Microsoft Windows. Discussion on Windows related topics is available in ##windows. General issues on moving from Windows to Ubuntu is convered in the the wiki guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwitchingToUbuntu/FromWindows
[00:52] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: without root, in the dir of the .sh file
[00:52] <theunixgeek> What command do I use to compile a GTK+ program?
[00:52] <beernutz> Wyzard: ok, basically i still need to keep the -server install i have now, but i really need to get the nvidia drivers going.  i am running a 4xdualcore rig with 16 gig of ram as a high end workstation.  The nvidia drivers think i am running a xen kernel, and refuse to contiune.  Not sure how to rememdy this.
[00:52] <theholyduck> theunixgeek, no diffrent from compiling any other program
[00:52] <factotum> and now the update manager says i can do a partial upgrade?? ugh
[00:52] <theunixgeek> theholyduck: is this the correct way to compile? cc buttons.c `pkg-config --cflags --libs gtk+-2.0`
[00:52] <theholyduck> but why are you compiling something  in the first place
[00:52] <Wyzard> enaner: No idea about that one, sorry...  maybe someone else can help
[00:52] <theunixgeek> theholyduck: because I wrote it ;)
[00:52] <tokah_> how do i restart alsa
[00:52] <IndyGunFreak> 16gigs of ram?..lol
[00:53] <xubean> marcN: thanks a lot man, I think that's gonna work for me
[00:53] <theholyduck> theunixgeek, hmm :P
[00:53] <enaner> theholyduck i want to find out what causes it
[00:53] <theunixgeek> tokah_: could always restart the computer
[00:53] <chaqu1> yeah
[00:53] <blah569> I have been attempting to get my wireless card to work with Ubuntu on the Live CD for a long time.  If I install Ubuntu, would I have more luck of succedeing?
[00:53] <theholyduck> enaner, well i wouldnt know :P
[00:53] <chaqu1> the file isnt showing up if i type ls
[00:53] <enaner> Wyzard: so far your suggestion with i386 is working wonderfully :)
[00:53] <tgm4883_laptop> what package is gnome-display-properties in?
[00:53] <theholyduck> blah569, not really :P
[00:53] <Atomic_UE> what's an alternative to network manager?
[00:53] <beernutz> Wyzard: the nvidia driver installer i mean refuses to continue.
[00:53] <theholyduck> blah569, whats your card?
[00:53] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: what about ls -a?
[00:53] <tokah_> theunixgeek, i though this was linux not windows
[00:53] <factotum> i wonder if its because I am running 64-bit...
[00:53] <theholyduck> blah569, some cards require you to install some extra firmware to work
[00:53]  * tokah_ blasphemous
[00:53] <CorbinFox> can i get any help with installing ubuntu to a new comp?  it can't create the ext partitiion during the installation
[00:53] <theunixgeek> tokah_: this IS linux
[00:53] <blah569> RTL8186B.  RTL8187B is supported, RTL8186B is not D:
[00:53] <Marlboro> Ciao a tutti!!!
[00:53] <Wyzard> beernutz: The -server kernel might be Xen-enabled, actually
[00:53] <tokah_> ok, so restarting does what again?
[00:53] <tokah_> nothing.
[00:54] <theunixgeek> !it | Marlboro
[00:54] <ubotu> Marlboro: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[00:54] <chaqu1> no i dont see it
[00:54] <chaqu1> but its on my desktop
[00:54] <chaqu1> :-(
[00:54] <theunixgeek> tokah_: GTK is mainly Linux-oriented
[00:54] <IndyGunFreak> blah569: most likely on an install, you' dhave better luck, most cards require restarting
[00:54] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: try cd /home/yourusername/Desktop
[00:54] <enaner> what's the difference between linux and windows
[00:54] <xubean> marcn: i still can't upgrade, says I need to free an additional 440 m fo disk space on '/'... how do I free space in '/'?
[00:54] <blah569> This sucks.  My card is not supported (RTL8186B), but RTL8187B is supported.
[00:54] <beernutz> Wyzard: i was affraid of that.  How would i de-enable it?  do you know?  or is there another kernel that would see the 16gig of ram, that is still 32 bit?
[00:54] <tokah_> theunixgeek, restarting services the the same thing as restarting
[00:54] <dabbill> is there a way i can add an icon to my desktop that will be dedicated to my cdrom that will switch between 2 icons weither its mounted or unmounted?
[00:54] <theunixgeek> tokah_: oh
[00:54] <theholyduck> enaner,just about everything if you look at it from a computer standpoint
[00:55] <unikon> enaner linux is free
[00:55] <theunixgeek> tokah_: well it could work
[00:55] <lowlux> how would i lock a foler so no one can peak into that folder without a password?
[00:55] <factotum> okay, this channel is making me cross-eyed, im out
[00:55] <theholyduck> but from a user standpoint they can be quite simelar
[00:55] <tgm4883_laptop> beernutz, AFAIK, that is a limitation of 32-bit
[00:55] <MarcN> xubean: remove more packages.  Do you have lots of stuff in /var/cache/?
[00:55] <Jordan_U> xubean, '/' is your main partition, just delete some files
[00:55] <enaner> can i run a server off my old desktop? is that possible?
[00:55] <ommegang> is there something else i need to be able to playback mp3/aac/divx etc on hardy64? pm me plz
[00:55] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: open up a fresh terminal then type cd Desktop
[00:55] <beernutz> tgm4883_laptop: the -server kernel is 32 bit but sees all my ram.
[00:55] <xubean> marcn: no.. i don't have anything!!!
[00:55] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: Do you see the file when you type ls after that?
[00:55] <tgm4883_laptop> hmm interesting
[00:55] <WhatTheBen> hi, can anyone help with wireless probs on ff2
[00:55] <IndyGunFreak> 64codecs
[00:55] <MarcN> xubean: dpkg --list|grep ^ii | wc -l      gives what?
[00:55] <lowlux> how would i lock a folder so no one can peak into that folder without a password?
[00:56] <Wyzard> tgm4883_laptop: 32-bit processors can address up to 64GB of RAM using PAE
[00:56] <Jordan_U> beernutz, I believe the 32 bit -server kernel can see > 4 GIG RAM, though I don't know about 16G
[00:56] <Wyzard> beernutz: Not that I know of...  why don't you want to use 64-bit though?
[00:56] <chaqu1> i got it!
[00:56] <Musashiden> has anybody gotten any luck setting up ATI's Theatre 550 Pro TV tuner, or any tv ati tuner?
[00:56] <ommegang> indygunfreak: tried that doesnt work.. how do i get them
[00:56] <Jordan_U> enaner, Yes, many people ( including me ) use old desktops as servers :)
[00:56] <xubean> marcn: 1897
[00:56] <beernutz> Wyzard: the reinstall will be a rail bear, i have a lot of programs installed
[00:56] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: do you want to install it on desktop?
[00:56] <edward_> Can I change my home partition simply by editing my /etc/fstab? Will this cause any problems?
[00:56] <beernutz> s/rail/real/
[00:57] <chaqu1> no, i want to install it to my games folder
[00:57] <psycardis> Ok, I need to change the way ubuntu inializes a device, change the order of the modules how can I do this?
[00:57] <enaner> Jordan_U: what can i ... any way to profit from running a server on my old desktop?
[00:57] <IndyGunFreak> ommegang: then yu're doing something wrong,... you need the 64bit codec pack.. did youg et them from medibuntu?
[00:57] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: if not, first use nautius (alt+f2, then type nautilus), browse to desktop, then move it to your home folder or game folder
[00:57] <edward_> I currently have my whole OS in one partition, unless you count the swp partition.
[00:57] <lowlux> how would i lock a folder so no one can peak into that folder without a password?
[00:57] <RyanPrior> How can I use upstart to control things like apache? Right now I'm using invoke-rc.d but upstart seems like the direction Ubuntu is moving in.
[00:57] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: ok first move it to your game folder then
[00:57] <ommegang> indygun: yep
[00:57] <MarcN> xubean: I have ~2k packages in ~5.6G on /   My /home is elsewhere
[00:57] <beernutz> Wyzard: do you know if vmware will run in the 64bit kernels?
[00:57] <IndyGunFreak> ommeg, then you did something wrong
[00:57] <WhatTheBen> can anyone help with wireless probs in ff2?
[00:57] <alexbe01> Jordan_U, sorry, i missed your comment earlier - it does appear to save passwords and login sessions
[00:58] <ommegang> indygun: tring the gstreamer stuff atm
[00:58] <Musashiden> has anybody gotten any luck setting up ATI's Theatre 550 Pro TV tuner, or any tv ati tuner?
[00:58] <GIn> how do you upgrade from the rc version to the stable version?
[00:58] <alexbe01> Jordan_U, just not bookmarks.  ever.
[00:58] <xubean> marcn: sorry, and that means?
[00:58] <ommegang> indygun: i also tried ubuntu-restricted-extras no luck
[00:58] <eZe> how can i permanently mount a new parition? doing sudo mount seems to last just for one session
[00:58] <Jordan_U> enaner, You'll have to figure that out on your own :) ( note that many ISPs prohibit using your home connection to host a server )
[00:58] <Wyzard> beernutz: Yes, Workstation 6 has a native 64-bit build and I use it regularly
[00:58] <chaqu1> thats commonly in /usr/games
[00:58] <chaqu1> right?
[00:58] <xubean> marcn: as far as i know, my home is elsewhere in /home as well..
[00:58] <_neon_3> e-sata hd how can i auto mount it everytime i boot, instead of going thru settings/advance/disk&filesystem to enable it
[00:58] <RyanPrior> lowlux: Right click it, select "Properties", then in Permissions and under "Others", select folder access: none.
[00:58] <Wyzard> beernutz: Older versions were 32-bit only but they still ran fine
[00:58] <IndyGunFreak> ommegang: if you're gonna go to the hassle of saying my name, at least say my entire name so it alerts me, otherwise i won';t bother looking for what you're typing
[00:58] <chaqu1> what does sh mean
[00:58] <chaqu1> and whats bash mean?
[00:58] <IndyGunFreak> !tab  | ommegang
[00:58] <ubotu> ommegang: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[00:58] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: actually you can just move it to a game folder in your home folder
[00:58] <Wyzard> beernutz: (64-bit kernels can run 32-bit programs, and VMware bundles all the libraries it needs)
[00:58] <RyanPrior> lowlux: That's a pretty decent way to hide your porn folder.
[00:59] <MarcN> xubean: how much disk is used on your / ?  I have ~2000 packaegs which consume ~5.6G of space. I could remove the dev tools to make it smaller.
[00:59] <beernutz> Wyzard:  and the flash-player?  i actually need it for development
[00:59] <enaner> is there any way to profit financially by running a server on my old desktop??
[00:59] <ahboy> how do you purge all the games off of the system?
[00:59] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: .sh .. is an executable extension
[00:59] <Wyzard> beernutz: There is no 64-bit Adobe Flash, on any platform
[00:59] <RyanPrior> enaner: Yes, get somebody to pay you for hosting, or host something yourself which makes money.
[00:59] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: and it's a bash script
[00:59] <chaqu1> if i were a bill gates supporter that would mean .exe right?
[00:59] <beernutz> Wyzard: i guess i mean will it RUN under the 64bit kernel
[00:59] <Wyzard> beernutz: but it's possible to use the 32-bit plugin with a 64-bit browser via nspluginwrapper
[00:59] <enaner> RyanPrior: what can i host to make me money?
[00:59] <CorbinFox> is there a common reason why ext3 partitions can't be created?  ubuntu (7.10 and 8.04 RC) cant make one for installation.  it isnt because the drive is sata?  I doubt that is it
[00:59] <WhatTheBen> can anyone please help with wireless probs in ff2?
[01:00] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: now open up a terminal and change to the directory where you moved your installer.sh
[01:00] <alexbe01> chaqu1, actually, a bash script would be more comparable to a really advanced batch file
[01:00] <Wyzard> beernutz: I've had mixed success with that in Debian; haven't tried it in Ubuntu because I don't have a 64-bit Ubuntu box
[01:00] <osiris> CorbinFox, bad sectors perhaps ?
[01:00] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: you should move it to a home folder
[01:00] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: e.g., /home/yourusername/games
[01:00] <CorbinFox> osiris: but it does ext2 and other kinds of file systems
[01:00] <MilitantPotato> CorbinFox: How many primary partitions does the drive have?
[01:00] <RyanPrior> enaner: You could post interesting news or fiction, scrape Wikipedia or blogs, or make Flash games and sell advertising.
[01:00] <chaqu1> i actually moved it to my homefolder
[01:00] <psycardis> Ok, I need to change the way ubuntu inializes a device, change the order of the modules how can I do this?
[01:00] <MilitantPotato> CorbinFox: ah nvm then.
[01:00] <ahboy> enaner you want to make money? Learn a programing language and then make a sweet program sell it to gates and be done with it
[01:00] <CorbinFox> militantpotato: it is empty.  i can wipe it clean
[01:00] <beernutz> Wyzard: ok..  thank you.  i guess i will have to start the painful process of upgrading to a 64bit install.  *sigh*
[01:01] <chaqu1> so it should be intalling to my homefolder now
[01:01] <ixian_> does anyone know of a program for using a webcam? i want to see if m;y webcam works in ubuntu
[01:01] <xb3rt> so much for www.cprogramming.com
[01:01] <osiris> CorbinFox, i had a drive that only wanted to do reiserFS accross 4 distros.  i think it was just the drives time to get goofy
[01:01] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: ok browse to that folder in a terminal, then type mkdir bin, then chmod +x installer.sh, then finally to run it ./installer.sh
[01:01] <wolf_> Hey, I am having a problem in ubuntu. When I start the system up it will stay black and continue flicker as if its trying to find a connection.  If it does show something the system doesnt work correctly
[01:01] <RyanPrior> ixian_: Cheese is a sexy new webcam program similar to OSX's photo booth.
[01:01] <edward_> edward
[01:01] <edward_> sorr
[01:01] <enaner> RyanPrior:  but then i can do that from a blog ... i won't need a server ... right?
[01:01] <ahboy> any how, Can someone please fill me in  on how to purge all the games off of my system so i dont have to do each one individually
[01:01] <chaqu1> its doing stuff now
[01:01] <harveyd> im using a fresh install of apache on ubuntu, no hotlink / rewrite rules, but it wont let me access .mp3 files from localhost, I see them in the directory listing, but when I click the link I get a 403
[01:01] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: replace installer.sh with the name of the file
[01:01] <enaner> RyanPrior:  what's the benefit of doing that from my own server?
[01:01] <RyanPrior> enaner: You need to be able to host your blog, and hosting isn't free.
[01:02] <ixian_> RyanPrior: thanks i will check it out
[01:02] <eZe> anybody know how to permanently mount a new partiton? kinda running out of space on this one :)
[01:02] <chaqu1> i wasnt sure if i had it right but it started running
[01:02] <osiris> ahboy, use the add/remove programs dialog ?
[01:02] <osiris> select all games
[01:02] <ahboy> osiris remastering
[01:02] <RyanPrior> enaner: If you host a blog for free with somebody else, then any advertising revenue will probably got ot hem.
[01:02] <ahboy> so i dont have a gui
[01:02] <ommegang> indygun: no workie
[01:02] <beernutz> Wyzard: so 8.04-desktop-amd64 is the one i want?
[01:02] <ahboy> all terminal work here
[01:02] <psycardis> Ok, I need to change the way ubuntu inializes a device, change the order of the modules how can I do this?
[01:02] <osiris> harveyd, 403 forbiden ?
[01:02] <RyanPrior> eZe: Do you have a new hard drive?
[01:02] <eZe> no
[01:02] <harveyd> yup @ os
[01:02] <Wyzard> beernutz: looks right to me
[01:02] <chaqu1> eh
[01:02] <chaqu1> its not working right
[01:02] <chaqu1> darn it
[01:02] <eZe> i just formated a ntfs to ext3
[01:03] <enaner> RyanPrior:  okay ... well what about the URL? do i still hav eto buy a URL?
[01:03] <nephtes> Hello, Broadcom 4306 wifi help, anyone?  The b43 driver & associated firmware appears to be working (iwlist scanning works) but the dhcp client doesn't get any offers...
[01:03] <edward_> I am trying to use another partition for a /home, but I have my home directory in my root partition at the moment. Can I safely and successfully use this other partition as a /home simply by adding a line to my /etc/fstab that says to mount it at /home?
[01:03] <RyanPrior> eZe: Where is this new partition going to be hosted?
[01:03] <tony55> corbinfox you trying to make a primary partion or extended???
[01:03] <osiris> sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www
[01:03] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: did you mkdir bin, chmod +x installer.sh, then ./installer.sh ?
[01:03] <chaqu1> what does all that mean
[01:03] <RyanPrior> enaner: A URL costs less than $10 per year usually, so it's not a huge investment.
[01:03] <CorbinFox> tony55: i believe it is primary.
[01:03] <jrib> edward_: you should move the data on your old /home, but yeah
[01:03] <eZe> mh, on my harddrive, probably /media/hdd6 (thats where it was before i formated it)
[01:03] <beernutz> Wyzard: how can i check if it has 3ware sata drivers on it?
[01:03] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: make a folder to place the files, make the file executable, then run the file
[01:03] <simtower> how do i pick my video driver in ubuntu 8.10
[01:03] <jerbear> i keep getting core dump files stuck in my home directory. i have no clue where they are coming from. what can i do?
[01:04] <osiris> harveyd, run this command
[01:04] <osiris> sudo chown -R www-data:www-data /var/www
[01:04] <edward_> jrib: To where? You mean to back it up or make it accessible in /home?
[01:04] <enaner> RyanPrior:  do you make money in this way?
[01:04] <tony55> corbinfox what partion tool you useing
[01:04] <harveyd> osiris: thanks tons, worked perfectly
[01:04] <RyanPrior> enaner: Nope, I don't have any advertising on my site.
[01:04] <ahboy> Osiris this is an example of what i removed last apt-get remove --purge evolution-common,,,, and now i would like to purge every game off the distro
[01:04] <osiris> np
[01:04] <rod0009> osiris
[01:04] <simtower> how do i... pick my video driver... in ubuntu 8.10??
[01:04] <chaqu1> a folder is a .bin
[01:04] <chaqu1> ?
[01:04] <tgelter> can someone tell me what I'd need to do to get nautilus trash to work? (I'm getting an error "Cannot move file to trash, do you want to delete immediately") I've got ~/Desktop mounted from another partition than the rest of $HOME
[01:04] <Jordan_U> simtower, The current version of Ubuntu is 8.04 , and you can use System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers or modify your /etc/X11/xorg.conf by had
[01:04] <CorbinFox> tony55: i am using the ubuntu installer and when that couldnt do it i tried GPartEd
[01:04] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: well we're using bin in this case. did it work?
[01:04] <CorbinFox> both didnt work
[01:04] <edward_> jrib: If I mount this other partition, will it damage the data in my current home directory on my current root partition? Thanks.
[01:04] <osiris> ahboy, if the game packages depend on that, sudo apt-get autoclean
[01:05] <osiris> that will get rid of all abandoned packages
[01:05] <Wyzard> beernutz: It should have the same drivers as your 32-bit Ubuntu
[01:05] <mkquist_> hardy used firefox beta?
[01:05] <jrib> edward_: well you'll want to move the contents of you current home somewhere, like /home.old, then mount the new partition on /home and move the contents in there.  You should do this in recovery mode so that you never need anything in /home
[01:05] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: make you start at the directory where you placed the instller.sh file
[01:05] <LainIwakura> mkquist_: yes
[01:05] <rod0009> osiris can u help me whit something
[01:05] <osiris> i can try
[01:05] <jerbear> i keep getting core dump files stuck in my home directory. i have no clue where they are coming from. what can i do?
[01:05] <simtower> Jordan_U my friend the driver is not in xorg
[01:05] <ahboy> osiris naw thats just evolution but im not sure what to say for all the games
[01:05] <rod0009> im using ubuntu 8
[01:05] <rod0009> and cant use my usb
[01:05] <fayetteson> would someone please help me with this brown screen of death
[01:05] <edward_> jrib: What do you mean by recovery mode? A failsafe gnome session? Will that do?
[01:05] <beernutz> Wyzard: ok, thank you.  so backup etc, and home dirs, anything else i need to worry about, opt maybe?
[01:05] <tony55> corbinfox did you choose to resize existing pertion or take over whole drive
[01:06] <TaRDy> will ubuntu be able to recognize both of my webcams?
[01:06] <edward_> Oh, of course... you mean the boot menu option
[01:06] <TaRDy> and utilize**
[01:06] <Jordan_U> simtower, You need to add the driver section yourself
[01:06] <jrib> edward_: no.  "recevory mode" in the grub menu gives you a root prompt
[01:06] <edward_> Thing is, I kind of destroyed my sources.list :P
[01:06] <psycardis> Ok, I need to change the way Ubuntu initializes a device, change the order of the modules how can I do this?
[01:06] <bluefox83> fayetteson, brown screen of death? no such animal in ubuntu O.o
[01:06] <ahboy> i will probably have to do them individually thanks Osiris
[01:06] <osiris> rod0009, do lspci | grep USB
[01:06] <edward_> I mean menu/.lst
[01:06] <CorbinFox> tony55: i took over the whole drive.  i have erased the entire drive so it is empty as well, and still no luck
[01:06] <wolf_> I am thinking that the probme i am having is either related to my monitor or to my video card, anyone that could offer assistance it would be greatly appreciated as ubuntu is unusable right now
[01:06] <osiris> ahboy, anytime
[01:07] <rod0009> osiris can i add you to
[01:07] <rod0009> msn?
[01:07] <Alex_Gaynor> How do I make it so that window title bars are always solid?
[01:07] <fayetteson> well what i mean by brown screen of death is after login i get a brown screen with a white window in the corner no desktop no nothing
[01:07] <osiris> i suppose
[01:07] <Col> hello
[01:07] <Jordan_U> simtower, Section "Device"
[01:07] <Jordan_U>         Driver          "<Enter Driver Here>"
[01:07] <Jordan_U> EndSection
[01:07] <edward_> Oh no, it's still here... i just don't have grub configured properly atm as the one on my other os, which determines the menu, isn't set
[01:07] <Col> all
[01:07] <rod0009> is there anyway to speak in private mode?
[01:07] <MachinTrucChose> when I download a package using synaptic or aptitude, where is it stored? I need to format and reinstall HH, and would rather not waste the bandwidth getting my programs back later on
[01:07] <simtower> thx Jordan_U
[01:07] <osiris> rod0009, i sent you a pm
[01:07] <LainIwakura> rod0009: you can message another user with /msg username msg
[01:07] <beernutz> Wyzard: i can just move those dirs into a "holding" directory on the same drive and install over the top right?  it does not need a reformat to install 64bit?
[01:07] <Jordan_U> simtower, np
[01:08] <jrib> !xhangs | fayetteson
[01:08] <ubotu> fayetteson: If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority
[01:08] <rod0009> thx will add u anymoment from now
[01:08] <RyanPrior> How can I use upstart to control things like apache? Right now I'm using invoke-rc.d but upstart seems like the direction Ubuntu is moving in.
[01:08] <Col> i had vista installed, but i didnt like it, so i deleted the partition. But the bootloader is still there. How do i get rid of it without a vista or XP installation disk?
[01:08] <fayetteson> ubotu and u know this works for a fact ?
[01:08] <tony55> corbinfox might try getting the parted magic iso and try setting up the harddrive with that then tryu installing ubuntu
[01:08] <|Dreams|> how do you tell gnome to aways use list as a view
[01:08] <|Dreams|> how do you tell gnome to awlays use list as a view
[01:08] <Alex_Gaynor> How do I make it so that window title bars are always solid colored, as opposed to changing based on focus?
[01:08] <jrib> fayetteson: ubotu is a bot.  It may work, it may not.  It won't hurt anything
[01:09] <fayetteson> thanks rib
[01:09] <demonspork>  People say that if you play Microsoft CD's backwards, you hear satanic things, but that's nothing, because if you play them forwards, they install Windows.
[01:09] <LainIwakura> |Dreams|: set that in preferences
[01:09] <demonspork> :)
[01:09] <CorbinFox> tony55: so just google for parted magic and try that?
[01:09] <IntangibleLiquid> !ubotu
[01:09] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:09] <Col> !ubuntu
[01:09] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[01:09] <LainIwakura> |Dreams|: Go to nautilus preferences then set view new folders to "List View"
[01:09] <psycardis> demonspork: lol
[01:09] <tony55> corbinfox yes
[01:09] <WIDESPREADpanic> Is there a good alternative to dreamweaver or frontpage that i can use in ubuntu?
[01:09] <demonspork> I found that and had to share it
[01:09] <demonspork> it made me happy
[01:09] <CorbinFox> tony55: k, i'll try that out. thanks
[01:09] <Col> widespread have you tried open office?
[01:09] <osiris> rod0009, you may need to be identified for private messaging to work
[01:10] <osiris> did you get my message ?
[01:10] <psycardis> widespread: you might check the appdb on winehq.org
[01:10] <ecc`> hello
[01:10] <RyanPrior> WIDESPREADpanic: there's a program called Nvu Komposer - it isn't great, but it's on par with MS Front Page.
[01:10] <psycardis> widespread see if they run under wine
[01:10] <Wyzard> beernutz: A typical installation involves reformatting; I don't remember offhand whether it's possible to install without doing so
[01:10] <Col> is there a test to tell me if my computer will run Ubuntu on my pc?
[01:10] <Col> i cant get it to install
[01:10] <rod0009> hows that
[01:10] <|Dreams|> thanks i am coming from kde
[01:10] <Col> ive installed it on my laptop before
[01:10] <Miesco> Anyone know about the CD packaging of the Ubuntu CD's at thelinuxstore.ca?
[01:11] <Col> but i want it on my tower now
[01:11] <Miesco> And do they come with stickers?
[01:11] <RyanPrior> WIDESPREADpanic: I highly suggest just learning how to design web pages by hand. It's not hard, and it's much less confusing to debug problems once you understand how the underlying markup works.
[01:11] <Jordan_U> beernutz, If you currently have windows installed you can install Ubuntu without repartitioning, just insert the Ubuntu CD and it should give you that option
[01:11] <jrib> Miesco: you should contact the support for thelinuxstore.ca
[01:11] <Miesco> jrib: K
[01:11] <zelrikriando> hey what is the difference between the package : xserver-xorg-video-intel and xserver-xorg-video-810 ?
[01:11] <psycardis> Ok, I need to change the way ubuntu inializes a device, change the order of the modules how can I do this?
[01:11] <osiris>  rod0009 type /j #wickedtribe
[01:12] <ecc`> I'll find out
[01:12] <Miesco> ANyone knwo where I can get a Ubuntu CD with stickers?
[01:12] <osiris> in the chat window
[01:12] <jrib> Miesco: you realize you can get CDs for free from shipit right?
[01:12] <beernutz> Jordan_U: no, i will be installing over my existing 32bit ubuntu-server install
[01:12] <Col> can someone pull me aside?
[01:12]  * jrib pulls col to the right a little
[01:12] <TaRDy> what is a good video chat client that is compatible with ubuntu and mac?
[01:12] <MarcN> psycardis: check /etc/mod*
[01:12] <DarkBlack> alguien que hable español me puede ayudar porfavor
[01:13] <jrib> !es | DarkBlack
[01:13] <ubotu> DarkBlack: Aquí solamente hablamos inglés. Para Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es - allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[01:13] <beernutz> Jordan_U: want to know if i can move my etc home, opt, etc dirs into a hold dir, then install over the top without loosing all my dirs in the hold dir
[01:13] <RyanPrior> How can I use upstart to control things like apache? Right now I'm using invoke-rc.d but upstart seems like the direction Ubuntu is moving in.
[01:13] <DarkBlack> gracias
[01:13] <RyanPrior> de nada DarkBlack
[01:13] <Col> did someone just pull me into private, or was that a joke?
[01:13] <jrib> Col: it was a joke, just ask your question in the channel and be patient :)
[01:13] <Col> k
[01:14] <Col> how do i delete a partion?
[01:14] <recon> is there any way to find a specific application outputting sound?
[01:14] <Invisionfree> If I use the Hardy 8.04 Alt CD, how long does it take to partition? I think it froze .. HD is making no sound and it's been 33% for like 5min+
[01:14] <jrib> Col: you can use gparted
[01:14] <Col> nah
[01:14] <Col> it wont work for me
[01:14] <laeg> Col: gparted destroyed my ubuntu partition
[01:14] <chaqu1> lainlwakura: chmode bash not found
[01:14] <CorbinFox> tony55: do you think fdisk from the live cd would do anything? maybe i am misunderstanding what fdisk does/is
[01:14] <laeg> Col: after 16 hours of resizing
[01:14] <enaner> how do i watch a girl on MSN thru UBUNTU's Pidgin???????
[01:14] <Col> i have Acronis Disk director suite
[01:14] <Invisionfree> If I use the Hardy 8.04 Alt CD, how long does it take to partition? I think it froze .. HD is making no sound and it's been 33% for like 5min+
[01:15] <RyanPrior> enaner: I don't believe Pidgin does video chat.
[01:15] <Col> but it wont let me delete this extra partition
[01:15] <chaqu1> it doesnt
[01:15] <chaqu1> keopete does
[01:15] <tony55> corbinfox that you could try too
[01:15] <Col> i had OS X86 on it
[01:15] <Col> but that didnt work
[01:15] <Col> so i want to get rid of it
[01:15] <chaqu1> but it doesnt work well
[01:15] <jrib> !enter | Col
[01:15] <ubotu> Col: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[01:15] <Invisionfree> If I use the Hardy 8.04 Alt CD, how long does it take to partition? I think it froze .. HD is making no sound and it's been 33% for like 5min+
[01:15] <chaqu1> looks like you'l have to talk her into stickam
[01:15] <Starnestommy> enaner: I think aMSN can
[01:15] <jrib> !repeat | Invisionfree
[01:15] <ubotu> Invisionfree: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[01:16] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: It's chmod, not chmode
[01:16] <Invisionfree> How about !answer Invisionfree's question?
[01:16] <Col> jrib, sorry im very new to irc and ubuntu
[01:16] <psycardis> !patience
[01:16] <jrib> Invisionfree: I would if I knew the answer
[01:16] <ubotu> The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[01:16] <edward_> Why is there no 'show desktop' widget in my KDE4 installation? How can I get it? Thanks, Ed
[01:16] <psycardis> Ok, I need to change the way ubuntu inializes a device, change the order of the modules how can I do this?
[01:16] <enaner> whats the command to get aMSN in terminaL??????
[01:16] <LainIwakura> Invisionfree: Did you defragment your hard drive before partitioning?
[01:16] <jrib> !apt > enaner (read the private message from ubotu)
[01:16] <chaqu1> ok now what happens
[01:17] <RyanPrior> enaner: aMSN claims webcam support in their capabilities, so give that a try
[01:17] <LainIwakura> enaner: You can try centrim
[01:17] <jrib> enaner: sudo aptitude install amsn
[01:17] <Jordan_U> beernutz, What you want to do is possible with debootsrap but is fairly complicated
[01:17] <LainIwakura> enaner: centerim*
[01:17] <chaqu1> now it scolls a message
[01:17] <LainIwakura> enaner: oh sorry nvm
[01:17] <chaqu1> so fast i can't read it.
[01:17] <Invisionfree> jrib: If it hung, would restarting the install fix it, or should I do a complete erase and reburn the AltCD at min speed?
[01:17] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: what did you do?
[01:17] <simtower> can someone help me enable desktop effects
[01:17] <chaqu1> mkdir bin
[01:17] <simtower> it doesnt work in 8.04
[01:18] <Fogel1497> I've got an s-video cable going from my tv to computer. How can I get s-video working in ubuntu 8.04
[01:18] <jrib> Invisionfree: you should choose the "verify the integrity of the cd" option when you boot from the cd to see if the burn was ok
[01:18] <chaqu1> then chmod +x install.sh
[01:18] <chaqu1> then sh install.sh
[01:18] <Invisionfree> jrib: K, gimme a min.
[01:18] <Fogel1497> Simtower what kind of desktop effects specifically are you talking about
[01:18] <danbhfive> simtower: did you use the restricted-drivers manager?
[01:18] <Dr_willis> Fogel1497,  You Sure the PC has a Svideo IN?
[01:18] <simtower> the desktop effects in the appearance panel
[01:18] <simtower> i didnt need any restricted driver in 7.10
[01:18] <Fogel1497> Yeah i was using s-video in windows
[01:18] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: the last step should be ./installer.sh
[01:18] <enaner> is there any screen recorder software you guys knw about?
[01:19] <MarcN> enaner: recordmydesktop?   Don' tknow if it packaged for ubuntu
[01:19] <duiu> Fogel1497 are you trying to show your comp on your TV, or TV on comp?
[01:19] <Fogel1497> comp on tv
[01:19] <enaner> is there a screen recorder software for ubuntu?
[01:19] <chaqu1> yeah
[01:19]  * AutoMatriX Hello ;)
[01:19] <MarcN> enaner: you don't like my answer?
[01:19] <chaqu1> it scrolls
[01:19] <Dr_willis> Fogel1497,  You mean to say you are using the Svideo OUT from the PC to the TV?
[01:20] <Fogel1497> yes that is correct
[01:20] <Jordan_U> simtower, What GPU do you have?
[01:20] <Fogel1497> dr willis
[01:20] <chaqu1> keep repeating the same thing very quickly
[01:20] <Invisionfree> !istanbul | enaner
[01:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about istanbul - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:20] <norbi> I am a bit confused, trying example from "Linux Bible" about background process.  When i start an application from a terminal, sometimes I have no control of the terminal untill I exit the app.  So by putting the & after the command, it's supposed to put that application in the background so I can continue using the terminal.  Is this not correct?
[01:20] <Col> is there a problem between ubuntu and NVIDIA 8800 with dual screens?
[01:20] <chaqu1> can i pause it to look at it?
[01:20] <simtower> radeon firegl 9000 Jordan_U
[01:20] <Dr_willis> !tvout
[01:20] <ubotu> For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[01:20] <Invisionfree> !info istanbul | enaner
[01:20] <ubotu> enaner: istanbul (source: istanbul): Desktop session recorder producing Ogg Theora video. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.2-2 (hardy), package size 73 kB, installed size 616 kB
[01:20] <danbhfive> what does it mean when ls prints items in black+red?
[01:20] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: no
[01:20] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: the same thing, are you sure?
[01:20] <chaqu1> yes
[01:20] <Starnestommy> danbhfive: I think it might be a named pipe or fifo
[01:20] <MachinTrucChose> enaner: I'm new to Ubuntu but a search for "recorder" in Synaptic showed the "Istanbul Desktop Session Recorder"
[01:20] <RyanPrior> danbhfive: It means your computer is about to die.
[01:21] <Jordan_U> simtower, Can you pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[01:21] <Fogel1497> Dr_Willis im a bit of a linux noob. What does !tvout mean?
[01:21] <IntangibleLiquid> i think I have no luck with my webcam :(
[01:21] <teohhanhui> hi, how do I check if my audio driver is installed and working?
[01:21] <Auctionedllama> Hey all, I have a question.. I downloaded the compiz screensaver, and I have it set for a 5 minute timer, but it never comes on... it goes black screen after 10 minuets, and I have to do it manually.. why is tihs?
[01:21] <RyanPrior> Fogel1497: !tvout is a way of asking Ubotu (the channel bot) to give information about the keyword "tvout".
[01:21] <RyanPrior> !tvout | Fogel1497
[01:21] <ubotu> Fogel1497: For help with enabling the TV-Out, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaTVOutNewbieEdition (Nvidia cards) or http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Tvout (ATI cards, *untested*)
[01:21] <Fogel1497> !tvout
[01:21] <cellofellow> teohhanhui: what's `aplay -l` in a terminal say?
[01:22] <Fogel1497> oook irc command gotcha
[01:22] <Jordan_U> danbhfive, ls -l and look at the first character to see what type of file it is ( ls --colors colors files based on what type of file they are )
[01:22] <Invisionfree> Uh oh
[01:22] <cellofellow> Fogel1497: well, it's an !ubotu command, actually.
[01:22] <simtower> Jordan_U: pastebin.com/m421e4ccc
[01:22] <Invisionfree> This CD-ROM integrity check better not take long
[01:22] <Drezard_> my ATi drivers are stuffed, whenever I load them thro Envy I cant play videos but the pc goes fast, but whenever i unload them i can play videos but everything goes slow....
[01:22] <cellofellow> !ubotu > Fogel1497
[01:22] <Invisionfree> My battery on here is dying ..
[01:22] <Drezard_> help!
[01:22] <Col> is there a problem between ubuntu and NVIDIA 8800 with dual screens?
[01:22] <Invisionfree> !ask | Drezard_
[01:22] <ubotu> Drezard_: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[01:22] <teohhanhui> cellofellow: it lists my audio device
[01:22] <cellofellow> teohhanhui: just a sec...
[01:23] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: if it doesn't stop after a while, consider using ctrl+c to stop it. take a look at how to install vendetta here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=433036
[01:23] <Fogel1497> Thanks everyone for the help with figuring out tv-video
[01:23] <Dr_willis> col works here
[01:23] <Auctionedllama> Hey all, I have a question.. I downloaded the compiz screensaver, and I have it set for a 5 minute timer, but it never comes on... it goes black screen after 10 minuets, and I have to do it manually.. why is this?
[01:23] <RyanPrior> Fogel1497: No problem. Thanks for asking questions. :-)
[01:23] <cellofellow> teohhanhui: try aplay -v /usr/share/sounds/generic.wav
[01:23] <Jordan_U> simtower, I don't know much about the open source ati drivers but try: Driver          "ati"
[01:23] <belkinhelp2> ok i have  a silly question for you.  I changed monitors and finally have the new resolution set.  But it seems that my icons in the control panel are all out of place.  How do I get them back to their original positions?
[01:24] <Col> Dr_willis have any idea why I cant get it to install. It tells me its going into low graphics mode or something like that, then it goes down hill from there
[01:24] <simtower> i tried that first Jordan_U it doesnt work
[01:24] <chaqu1> i just made a bin in the user directory
[01:24] <chaqu1> it seems to have worked
[01:24] <cellofellow> belkinhelp2: you can right-click them and click "move", or just middle-click and drag to move them around on the panel.
[01:24] <belkinhelp2> I have been able to manually move them all except the logoff icon
[01:24] <edward_> I want to get a guy's IP over MSN - how can I do this?
[01:24] <cellofellow> belkinhelp2: it must be locked
[01:24] <belkinhelp2> it seems that the networking icon is "stuck" in the right hand side
[01:24] <|Dreams|> why would you want to do that
[01:24] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: ok try running it then
[01:24] <RyanPrior> edward_: ask him.
[01:24] <edward_> I'm trying to use wireshark, capture traffic and filter it
[01:25] <chaqu1> i did
[01:25] <teohhanhui> cellofellow: no such file or directory
[01:25] <Invisionfree> jrib: Blasted! libjasper failed the integrity check!
[01:25]  * Jordan_U thinks gnome-panel should be smarter about resolution changes
[01:25] <belkinhelp2> cellofellow....there is no "unlock" for the networking icon
[01:25] <chaqu1> theres a long list of steps for installing it to a diffrent dir
[01:25] <edward_> RyanPrior: Not a bad idea
[01:25] <cellofellow> belkinhelp2: no "Lock to Panel" checkbox?
[01:25] <|Dreams|> netstat edward
[01:25] <chaqu1> longer then im gonna play this game's worth
[01:25] <belkinhelp2> cellofellow....there is also no "move" option
[01:25] <cellofellow> teohhanhui: just pick any only wave file, then.
[01:25] <belkinhelp2> cellofellow....no, not for the networking icon
[01:25] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: is vendetta not in add/remove programs?
[01:26] <|Dreams|> Edward_teach,  netstat
[01:26] <belkinhelp2> cellofellow....ive gotten all the others back except that one
[01:26] <LainIwakura> chaqu1: it would be much easier that way
[01:26] <sahak> when I move my windows across the screen the refresh is very slow. and CPU usage goes to 100% in system monitor. However I have dual 3.6GHZ CPU. What is the problem? This is Ubuntu 8.04.
[01:26] <chaqu1> no it isnt
[01:26] <RyanPrior> How can I use upstart to control things like apache? Right now I'm using invoke-rc.d but upstart seems like the direction Ubuntu is moving in.
[01:26] <|Dreams|> edward_, netstat
[01:26] <simtower> i think video card autodetection is broken in 8.04?
[01:26] <sahak> when I move my windows across the screen the refresh is very slow. and CPU usage goes to 100% in system monitor. However I have dual 3.6GHZ CPU. What is the problem? This is Ubuntu 8.04.
[01:26] <chaqu1> i mean it wasnt in the package manager
[01:26] <cellofellow> belkinhelp2: oh, that's in the System Tray applet which has a handle you can move just to the left of the icons.
[01:26] <belkinhelp2> cellofellow...its the "nm-applet 0.6.5" icon
[01:26] <cellofellow> belkinhelp2: yes, nm-applet is running in the System Tray.
[01:26] <Jordan_U> sahak, What GPU do you have, perhaps you need accelerated graphics drivers
[01:26] <Invisionfree> jrib: Thanks again, sir!
[01:26] <chaqu1> its a pay for play game
[01:26] <chaqu1> which would explain why
[01:26] <|Dreams|> man netstat
[01:26] <sahak> Jordan_U: ATI
[01:27] <cellofellow> belkinhelp2: or Notification area or whatever.
[01:27] <WGGMk> is there a workaround for java-ws..?? every time I try and launch java-ws it just doesnt open
[01:27] <alien> help, how to edit inittab on ubuntu7.04
[01:27] <sahak> Jordan_U: I am using open source drivers.
[01:27] <Dr_willis> !inittab
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about inittab - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:27] <belkinhelp2> cellofellow....so how do i get the "log out" icon back to the right of the network icon?
[01:27] <Invisionfree> !info inittab
[01:27] <ubotu> Package inittab does not exist in hardy
[01:27] <jrib> Invisionfree: no problem, burn it slow at 2 or 4x like you said
[01:27] <alien> yes
[01:27] <StevenX> hello all, can someone tell me how to maximize and minimize a game that takes up the whole screen; i.e. EVE Online.
[01:28] <cellofellow> belkinhelp2: the network icon is *inside* the Notification Area applet, which you must move. There's a handle that is part of the Notification Area applet just to the left of the icons in the applet.
[01:28] <alien> becase i don,t need tty2
[01:28] <MachinTrucChose> has anyone here tried most/all indexing software? (Tracker, Beagle, Strigi)
[01:28] <Jordan_U> sahak, You could try the restricted drivers to see if they give better performance. Unfortunately many newer ATI cards are not fully supported by the open source drivers :(
[01:28] <Invisionfree> jrib: Min speed for K3b appears to be 4x .. Strangely enough, this is the first time auto didn't work
[01:28] <belkinhelp2> cellofellow...nm, i see that there is  a divider between the two control panel fields.....wow, with this higher resolution i didnt even see it!
[01:28] <belkinhelp2> lol
[01:28] <teohhanhui> cellofellow: thx, it works fine
[01:28] <[DS]DragonSlayer> hello
[01:28] <TaRDy> what is a good video chat client that is compatible with ubuntu and mac?
[01:28] <Invisionfree> Course, auto tried burning it at appox 16x so .. :P
[01:28] <cellofellow> teohhanhui: goodie!
[01:28] <WGGMk> Does anyone know how to fix the issue with java webstart?? Mine is not working
[01:28] <bigtimer121> i am at my college and we have a limiter on my bandwidth. i was wondering if there was a way i can get around this???
[01:28] <SeaPhor> StevenX, have you tried ctrl+alt+D?
[01:28] <Invisionfree> !java | WGGMk
[01:28] <ubotu> WGGMk: To install a Java runtime/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java6-jre from the !Multiverse repository (in !Backports for !Edgy)
[01:29] <teohhanhui> cellofellow: just a thought, why isn't there something like a device manager in xubuntu?
[01:29] <[DS]DragonSlayer> quick question: I wana install Ubuntu to my laptop, can i install ubuntu along w/ my NTFS (Windows) partition so i can have dual boot w/out deleting windows?
[01:29] <Jordan_U> MachinTrucChose, I still prefer locate ( though it doesn't index contents :)
[01:29] <belkinhelp2> cellofellow....got it.  Thanks.  Been scratching my head for quite some time now.
[01:29] <RyanPrior> bigtimer121: Nope, bandwidth is done on a hardware level and there's probably no way you can hack around the cap.
[01:29] <StevenX> SeaPhor, will that maximze or minimize?
[01:29] <Wyzard> bigtimer121: Possibly, or possibly not, but certainly not without any details on how it works
[01:29] <Ziroday> [DS]DragonSlayer: of course
[01:29] <cellofellow> teohhanhui: not that I'm aware of. Do you mean something like the Windows device manager?
[01:29] <SeaPhor> StevenX, that works like alt+tab for me in City of Heroes
[01:29] <Invisionfree> jrib: See you, gotta do my Wii fitness :P
[01:29] <WGGMk> Invisionfree: ok that doesnt help me. Java is already installed and is working except for java "WEB START"
[01:29] <[DS]DragonSlayer> Ziroday - do i have to install it inside windows? or can i just install thru partitioning bootup?
[01:29] <Invisionfree> What's the web start?..
[01:29] <Jordan_U> [DS]DragonSlayer, Yes, you can even do it without repartitioning at all with wubi!
[01:29] <cellofellow> teohhanhui: might want to ask in #xubuntu.
[01:29] <Wyzard> RyanPrior: That's the ideal way to do it, but I've seen bandwidth quotas done by IP address
[01:29] <MachinTrucChose> jordan: I don't know, indexing would result in faster searches/less hard drive wear
[01:30] <bigtimer121> RyanPrior & Wyzard: thanks
[01:30] <StevenX> SeaPhor, I will try it. thanks.
[01:30] <MachinTrucChose> I used to hate indexing but now that I have a fast computer it doesn't matter anymore
[01:30] <Ziroday> [DS]DragonSlayer: both ways, you can install it inside windows with wubi, or you can install it side by side with dual boot
[01:30] <[DS]DragonSlayer> which is better
[01:30] <SeaPhor> StevenX, hope it works for ya, let me know :-))
[01:30] <[DS]DragonSlayer> i read that it's slower
[01:30] <Ziroday> !install > [DS]DragonSlayer (see PM from ubotu)
[01:30] <[DS]DragonSlayer> or something
[01:30] <Fogel1497> S-video problem again. In windows I would right click the desktop, and go to the monitor tab and hit advanced to select the tv monitor as the output How do i do this in ubuntu hardy heron
[01:30] <Col> anyone know how to get rid of the Vista Bootmanager?
[01:30]  * Pelo seems to recall that in the first beta he tried of hardy,  metacity compositing didn't cast blue shadows over videos
[01:30] <Ziroday> [DS]DragonSlayer: wubi is slower then a normal install
[01:30] <Fogel1497> !metacity
[01:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about metacity - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:31] <[DS]DragonSlayer> yeah i'm planning to do normal install
[01:31] <[DS]DragonSlayer> cuz i don't want it to be slow
[01:31] <RyanPrior> Pelo: supposedly the latest Nvidia driver is causing pink shadows in Compiz, perhaps this is related?
[01:31] <Mindaxiz> There a way to have rhythmbox minimize on close?  i miss foobar
[01:31] <Pelo> Fogel1497, just for sending video to the tv ,  chek in totem's preferences
[01:31] <Pelo> RyanPrior, intel 865g here
[01:31] <RyanPrior> Pelo: I have an ATI driver and Metacity compositing works fine for me,
[01:31] <Jordan_U> [DS]DragonSlayer, It's not a very big difference, the only difference is disk access because it's NTFS, it's still all completely native ( no virtualization )
[01:32] <edward_> What protocol do files get transferred by with MSN?
[01:32] <[DS]DragonSlayer> oo ok
[01:32] <edward_> MSNMS?
[01:32] <Wyzard> RyanPrior: no such problems here -- fresh install of Ubuntu 8.04, using compiz, nVidia 6200, no pink shadows
[01:32] <RyanPrior> Mindaxiz: I miss Foobar too! Such a shame there's no equivalent.
[01:32] <Pelo> RyanPrior, when yuou have a video in totem or vlc or someting,  and another window open and overlapping the video do you get a shadows or a bleu line ?
[01:32] <[DS]DragonSlayer> so i can do normal install w/out deleting my NTFS (windows) right?
[01:32] <RyanPrior> Pelo: let me try quick.
[01:32] <WGGMk> Invisionfree: Untangle Client
[01:33] <Johnny_5> how do i completely purge/get rid of a program on my comp? what command would i use?
[01:33] <Pelo> [DS]DragonSlayer, yes,  you just need to resize it to make some room ,  defrag it a fwe times first and then back up your imporant stuff
[01:33] <jesus__> hello everyone
[01:33] <Johnny_5> i still use 7.10
[01:33] <Fogel1497> ^^faster boot
[01:33] <RyanPrior> Pelo: I get a shadow as I'd expect.
[01:33] <[DS]DragonSlayer> @ Pelo: how do i resize
[01:33] <jesus__> have anyone installed vmware on ubuntu 8.04 ?
[01:33] <Pelo> RyanPrior, what colour shadow 6
[01:34] <Pelo> ?
[01:34] <[DS]DragonSlayer> which F keys to boot up disc?
[01:34] <Wyzard> jesus__: I installed the Server 2.0 beta on the 8.04 release candidate, if that counts
[01:34] <Pelo> [DS]DragonSlayer, the installer will guide you but you can also resize it in menu > system > admin < gnome partition manager , just right click , unmount, resize
[01:34] <jesus__> do you have any tutorials on how?
[01:34] <RyanPrior> Pelo: dark, just like on any surface.
[01:34] <RyanPrior> Pelo: it basically acts exactly as I'd expect.
[01:34] <jesus__> I have the one I had on the 7.10, but it won't install on the 8.04
[01:35] <Pelo> RyanPrior, damit, I knew someting was up , what video player ?
[01:35] <Wolf23> can anyone help me please, after upgrading from gutsy to hardy,the screen resolution looks very bad and it hurts my eyes,anyone please,thanx
[01:35] <Wyzard> jesus__: vmware-config fails while building kernel modules?
[01:35] <jesus__> yes
[01:35] <mohbana> how do i package something?
[01:35] <Pelo> Wolf23, what video card ?
[01:35] <Wyzard> jesus__: You need vmware-any-any-update116 patch to support the newer kernel
[01:35] <Auctionedllama> Hey all, I have a question.. I downloaded the compiz screensaver, and I have it set for a 5 minute timer, but it never comes on... it goes black screen after 10 minuets, and I have to do it manually.. why is this?
[01:35] <jesus__> it says it is installed but it needs to be configured
[01:35] <Wolf23> Pelo:  nvidia
[01:35] <Pelo> mohbana, there is an artical on that on digg do a search
[01:36] <jesus__> let me try with the server then
[01:36] <Pelo> Wolf23, got the restricted driver working ? in menu > system> admi > hardware driver
[01:36] <Wolf23> Pelo:  Pelo on xorg.conf driver is vera
[01:36] <[DS]DragonSlayer> what's a good size (disk space) for ubuntu for dual boot (100 gb HD and it has windows in it)
[01:36] <jesus__> ok
[01:36] <Pelo> Auctionedllama, ask in #compiz
[01:36] <RyanPrior> Pelo: Totem
[01:36] <Auctionedllama> pelo, thanks mate
[01:36] <xb3rt> [DS]DragonSlayer, id say thats plenty
[01:37] <Pelo> Wolf23, goto menu > sstem> admin  > hardware driver
[01:37] <_nix_> hello everybody :) anyone here know how to get a broadband connection up and running on a new kubuntu install? it requires user-id/password..
[01:37] <Pelo> RyanPrior, gstreamer or xine ?
[01:37] <[DS]DragonSlayer> oh what i meant is, what size should i set it for ubuntu
[01:37] <john83> hello guys
[01:37] <RyanPrior> Pelo: gstreamer
[01:37] <[DS]DragonSlayer> 10 gb? 20 gb?
[01:37] <Pelo> !wifi | _nix_
[01:37] <ubotu> _nix_: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:37] <Wolf23> Pelo:  no propietary drivers are in use on this system,
[01:37] <Pelo> RyanPrior, I'll try and switch , see if it is better
[01:37] <_nix_> it aint wireless :( i think its adsl
[01:37] <Fogel1497> I checked TOTEM properties and everything, didn't see anything about sending video to my tv.
[01:37] <Pelo> Wolf23, but does one show available ?
[01:38] <Fogel1497> or a different display in general
[01:38] <Wolf23> Pelo:  no
[01:38] <Pelo> Fogel1497, it says tvout
[01:38] <Pelo> !nvidia | Wolf23
[01:38] <ubotu> Wolf23: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:38] <Pelo> wolf try that
[01:38] <Fogel1497> Where? I looked in movie > properties > and i dont see tv out
[01:38] <Wolf23> Pelo:  ok
[01:39] <simtower> can someone help me enable desktop effects like it was in 7.10
[01:39] <Scunizi> [DS]DragonSlayer: depends on how much you like Ubuntu.. take half and you can adjust later.  You will have at minimum 2 partitions for ubuntu (done automatically) or if you partition manually make 3.  10gig for / (root) ... 1gig max for /swap and the rest for /home (your data)
[01:39] <Pelo> Fogel1497,  edit > preference
[01:39] <L> Hello, everyone.
[01:39] <_nix_> hi!
[01:39] <clayinjars> go to system/administration screen and graphics and you can configure your display outputs there
[01:39] <Pelo> simtower, install the compiz manager thingy and turn the effects on from the appearance dialog
[01:39] <L> Um...  hope this isn't a bother to anyone, but...
[01:40] <L> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=771569
[01:40] <Fogel1497> There are two options for TVout but both have (NVIDIA) in parenthesis. I have an ATI card
[01:40] <L> I could use some help from any who are willing.
[01:40] <simtower> Pelo: error, desktop effects cannot be enabled
[01:40] <Pelo> Fogel1497, sounds like either the driver supports both cards or you have the wrong driver
[01:40] <andre_pl> i get a quick flicker every 20 seconds or so with hardy, I never had this with any other ubuntu since dapper, and not even with the hardy betas.
[01:40] <Pelo> simtower,  what video card ?
[01:40] <dabbill> when i try to browse my network, i can open other computers but it doesnt show me the drives that are shared, if i put in the location for the drive it mounts it. Where can i go to fix this? so i can just browse it as a normal folder?
[01:40] <andre_pl> anyone else?
[01:40] <simtower> pelo: radeon fireGL 9000
[01:41] <flaxcrack> Hi all!
[01:41] <Pelo> simtower, got the restricted driver working ? chck i the admin menu
[01:41] <gustavo_> hi there
[01:41] <simtower> Pelo: the open driver works fine for firegl 9000
[01:41] <flaxcrack> I need a little help opening up a port.  Port 667.
[01:42] <flaxcrack> I exicuted the following command line syntax: iptables -I INPUT -p udp --dport 667 -j ACCEPT
[01:42] <Fogel1497> I used the Ubuntu Third Party Hardware drivers to install the driver. I'm pretty sure its the correct driver.
[01:42] <Wyzard> Can anyone offer some insight into why 8.04 doesn't do font hinting as cleanly as 7.10 and earlier versions did?
[01:42] <Fogel1497> I'll try reinstlaling it
[01:42] <Pelo> simtower, ok then , everything is fine, carry one
[01:42] <flaxcrack> in order to open up for 667, but on an nmap scan: nmap localhost -p0-1000
[01:42] <simtower> not really pelo
[01:42] <flaxcrack> it shows the port still has being closed and rejected by the server.
[01:42] <simtower> some kind of ubuntu bug
[01:42] <koro> hmm. The nvidia driver still shows up as "not in use"
[01:42] <flaxcrack> I also tried to telnet to the port and got the same error message.  Any suggestions?
[01:43] <koro> is anyone here running 8.04 with an nvidia card and the restricted drivers?
[01:43] <Wyzard> koro: I am, among many others
[01:43] <Pelo> RyanPrior, thanks , it works fine with totem-gstreamer but not with totem-xine,  this sucks, t-g does not support  dvd menues
[01:43] <Scunizi> L, broadcom is supported depending on which one.. other here can advise on that. display shouldn't be an issue , depends on vid card..
[01:43] <simtower> can someone help me enable desktop effects like it was in 7.10?
[01:43] <Pelo> simtower, so try the restricted driver then
[01:43] <RyanPrior> Pelo: I use a program called Ogle for DVD menus.
[01:43] <SeaPhor> koro, i was but just went back to 7.10, and now am about to go back to 8.04
[01:43] <koro> Wyzard: if you go to "hardware drivers" in system->administration, does the "nvidia accelerated graphics driver" show up as in use?
[01:44] <koro> or does it have a red ball next to it?
[01:44] <Wyzard> koro: Does yours say "nvidia_new" and show up as enabled but not in-use?
[01:44] <flaxcrack> Anyone?
[01:44] <Pelo> RyanPrior, I use to as well , I just liked the fact that it was all in one with totem-xine
[01:44] <L> Well the thing with the vid card is, the driver can only be gotten from the acer website, but it's only for vista....
[01:44] <RyanPrior> Pelo: yeah, I didn't know that Xine did DVD menus. It's too bad that gstreamer doesn't.
[01:44] <Pelo> flaxcrack, it's easier on us if you state your problem in one line
[01:44] <L> So it won't install without vista.
[01:44] <koro> Wyzard: doesn't say nvidia_new, says "NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (latest cards)" and it is marked as enabled but has a red ball and says "not in use" in status
[01:45] <bigtimer121> L: you are going to have to find it for linux, otherwise your going to have one hell of a task ahead of you
[01:45] <Wyzard> koro: OK, that may not be the same problem that I saw
[01:45] <flaxcrack> OKay: I'm trying to open up port 667 on my ubuntu 8.04 box; however, I am unable to do so.  My syntax is: iptables -I INPUT -p udp --dport 667 -j ACCEPT.
[01:45] <Wyzard> koro: but just in case, close that window, open a terminal and run "sudo apt-get update", then open the Hardware Drivers window again
[01:45] <koro> Wyzard: ojh but you haven't told me what you see?
[01:45] <L> looks like i have one hell of a task ahead of me...
[01:45] <Zambezi> I'm going to stream media. Which is best of VLC or mplayer?
[01:45] <koro> i just did an update, nothing new there
[01:45] <L> ^^'
[01:45] <Scunizi> L, you mean the vista driver can only be gotten from the acer website.. the card will typically be an intel i8xx or i9xx series, an ATI or Nvidia card.. there aint much else out there.. espicially in laptops
[01:45] <Pelo> flaxcrack, by default , no port is closed in ubuntu out of the box
[01:46] <Pelo> later folks
[01:46] <gustavo_> how do i unload a module from the terminal?
[01:46] <Wyzard> koro: still shows up as enabled but not in-use after an update?
[01:46] <koro> there's nothing to update
[01:46] <Johnny_5> how do i completely purge/get rid of a program on my comp? what command would i use?
[01:46] <[DS]DragonSlayer> if i edit a partition that has windows in it, how do i resize it?
[01:46] <Wyzard> koro: update, not upgrade
[01:46] <L> Well, when I tried to get it from the nvidia site, they told me it could only be retrieved by going to the acer site.
[01:46] <Wyzard> koro: just to download new package lists
[01:46] <[DS]DragonSlayer> w/out losing windows files
[01:46] <flaxcrack> Pelo, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-open-bittorrent-ports-from-the-command-line.html says different.
[01:46] <koro> but i did it 15 minutes ago
[01:46] <Zambezi> gustavo_: I minute and I check.
[01:46] <koro> doing it again just in case
[01:46] <L> So, I did, and the only one they have available for download, is for vista.
[01:47] <gustavo_> Zambezi: ok..
[01:47] <koro> yes, still shows as not in use
[01:47] <simtower> can someone help me enable desktop effects like it was in 7.10?
[01:47] <Wyzard> koro: The problem I've seen (both on my system and someone else in this channel) is that the installer didn't download package lists, so apt doesn't know about any available packages whatsoever
[01:47] <Jordan_U> [DS]DragonSlayer, The installation will walk you through that
[01:47] <koro> Wyzard: could you confirm that yours shows as "in use"?
[01:47] <seon> i am searching a file with the command find in my shell how can send it in the reader evince
[01:47] <koro> hmm hold on there
[01:48] <koro> i didn't download the installer through synaptic or apt-get
[01:48] <Wyzard> koro: That causes the Hardware Drivers window to not work properly -- the box is checked but it's not in-use, but instead of "NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (latest cards)" it just says "nvidia_new"
[01:48] <[DS]DragonSlayer> @ Jordan, does it let me choose if i do GUIDE - use freed space?
[01:48] <koro> i downloaded the nvidia installer
[01:48] <RyanPrior> How can I use upstart to control things like apache? Right now I'm using invoke-rc.d but upstart seems like the direction Ubuntu is moving in.
[01:48] <Zambezi> gustavo_: I just remember how to blacklist.
[01:48] <dabbill> when i try to browse my network, i can open other computers but it doesnt show me the drives that are shared, if i put in the location for the drive it mounts it. Where can i go to fix this? so i can just browse it as a normal folder?
[01:48] <Wyzard> koro: I'm recommending you do an update in case that's the problem you're having too, but it might not be, since you don't have one of those two symptoms
[01:48] <RyanPrior> simtower: You do it the same way as in 7.10, through Appearance -> Desktop Effects.
[01:48] <MrKeuner> hi all. Hardy is an awesome release. Personally I would like to thank everybody for developing and/or using it. Great work! Thank you!
[01:48] <[DS]DragonSlayer> @ Jordan right now it says i have 54 gb free space to use for ubuntu, will it let me choose how much to use?
[01:48] <arrrghhh> ok so why would x11vnc being run from /etc/rc.local act differently than running it from an ssh login as root?
[01:48] <RyanPrior> MrKeuner: enjoy!
[01:48] <gustavo_> Zambezi: its something trivial, but i just forgot :(
[01:48] <koro> Wyzard: i just did, nothing changed
[01:48] <[DS]DragonSlayer> @ jordan instead of using the whole 54 gb
[01:48] <simtower> can someone help me enable desktop effects like it was in 7.10? I get an error when enabling it in 8.04
[01:48] <Scunizi> L, but you did that in vista.. and it's a vista driver.. is the dvd or cd you burned a "live cd"? if so boot from it and see what happens.. if everything works great. install. if it doesn't come back here and ask how to "make <thingy> work"  .. I wouldn't sweat the video driver..
[01:49] <Beastmasta> i requested 3 cds from ship it and it said 4 were approved? any help
[01:49] <Wyzard> koro: OK, dunno then
[01:49] <RyanPrior> simtower: What is the error? (The more information you give us, the more help we are able to give!)
[01:49] <koro> Wyzard: but anyway, these drivers i'm talking about are the ones you download from nvidia and that have their own installer
[01:49] <zelrikriando> !seen Pelo
[01:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about seen pelo - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[01:49] <Wyzard> koro: ...oh, don't use that
[01:49] <simtower> RyanPrior: Could not enable Desktop Effects.
[01:49] <zelrikriando> !seen
[01:49] <ubotu> The seen function has not been operational for a long time.  Use /msg seenserv seen nickname instead.
[01:49] <Wyzard> koro: Remove that and use the packages
[01:49] <RyanPrior> simtower: pastebin the output of glxinfo please
[01:49] <koro> Wyzard: why?
[01:49] <gustavo_> Zambezi: rmmod
[01:49] <[DS]DragonSlayer> Will the GUIDE - resize partition allow me to choose how much to use for partition?
[01:49] <L> Honestly, I'm not INCREDIBLY worried about the video driver.
[01:49] <koro> I don't think i can do that, these are not available for amd-64 afaik
[01:49] <LainIwakura> Is there a way to check the permissions of a file in the xxx format? I'm trying to figure out the difference between "drwxr-xr-x" and "drwxrwxrwx" (the latter folder is highlighted in the terminal).. Thanks!
[01:50] <LainIwakura> *folder
[01:50] <L> But what I am worried about is the wireless.
[01:50] <SeaPhor> koro, i had real bad probs with the nvidia drivers
[01:50] <Zambezi> gustavo_: I just wrote that, but erase. You were quicker.
[01:50] <Shpoo1> How do I load ndiswrapper at startup? Someone showed me once, and I can't remember or find the same method.
[01:50] <koro> SeaPhor: what problems?
[01:50] <Scunizi> LainIwakura: the latter one is open to everyone
[01:50] <mocap> Uhmm sorry to ask this, anyone free to help a newbie with an ATI driver problem?
[01:50] <RyanPrior> !anyone | mocap
[01:50] <ubotu> mocap: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[01:50] <L> If by LIVE CD you mean, I restart with the disc in and boot ubuntu via CD, then yes.
[01:50] <[DS]DragonSlayer> @ anyone Will the GUIDE - resize partition allow me to choose how much to use for partition?
[01:50] <Wyzard> koro: because nVidia's generic installer script is not customized for Ubuntu and doesn't integrate properly into the system like the packged version does
[01:50] <DG19075> If anybody has trouble with Audacity-1.3.4 beta not working, I was able to fix that in a roundabout way!
[01:50] <arrrghhh> x11vnc is being run without a password, but when i run it from rc.local it asks for a password.  doesn't ask when i run it from ssh
[01:50] <simtower> RyanPrior, http://pastebin.com/m8b70239
[01:50] <cpk1> should I be able to easily use LVM even if I have never used it before? I will be using newly formatted drives so I don't need to worry about implementing it in an existing system
[01:50] <Wyzard> koro: and the packaged driver should work fine on 64-bit