[02:19] <Derander> Has anyone had any trouble/experience with installing msttcorefonts?
[02:19] <darknessinc> no one have any idea on how to fix audio problem?
[02:19] <clint101> when I try to upgrade the package list, it always tells me it had trouble updating 3 of them
[02:20] <edwin> every time i uninstall a wine program the program's menu entry remains. why is that?
[02:20] <Krimson> darknessinc: Check master volume.
[02:20] <Gohalien> SeaPhor, http://www.pastebin.org/35002
[02:20] <Derander> darknessinc: try alsamixer to check the master volume
[02:20] <UnknownFear> any have any idea why my boot time takes an incredibly long time?
[02:20] <bazhang> _newbie__00, do you have a router? if so is it wireless or wired, which computer will act as the hub if dont have a router, have you read up on how to do this before coming here or do you need an in-channel tutorial from the very beginning, etc
[02:20] <i-hope-this-name> edwin: good question, ive been wondering the same thing, and how to get rid of them
[02:20] <fde> edwin: right click "Applications" > "Edit Menu" ... browse to Wine folder and uncheck/delete the entries...
[02:20] <darknessinc> its at 87%
[02:20] <clint101> (it is amazine to watch all the discussions going on here)
[02:20] <UnknownFear> just to restart my computer and wait to get to the grub menu, takes a good 10 minutes
[02:21] <bazhang> clint101, which three
[02:21] <clint101> bazhang ... let me check
[02:21] <darknessinc> brb gonna try restart
[02:21] <i-hope-this-name> has windows become way too confusing to anyone else, or is it just me?
[02:21] <Derander> has anyone had any experience with apt-get failing to install msttcorefonts with an error regarding a proxy?
[02:21] <darknessinc> maybe my computer hates me
[02:21] <AdemoS> >>>Please respond   Ubuntu 8.04 Live CD--- Wireless Modem Issue: (worked out of the box with 7.10) Right before booting into the desktop GUI, I get a "IO Read Error" on zd1211, and then when attempting to use NMGnome, it sees my modem but cannot find any Wifi networks. Manually entering the networks doesn't work either.
[02:21] <RyanPrior> arbir: I get this info mostly from reading Planet Compiz-Fusion.
[02:21] <SeaPhor> Gohalien, says Nvidia, should be good :-))
[02:21] <arbir> RyanPrior: link please
[02:21] <RyanPrior> arbir: http://planet.compiz-fusion.org/
[02:21] <edwin> fde: that's a sloppy work around. not to mention, the items are still there. i know how to get rid of them manually, i just don't know why it doesn't work automatically. thanks though
[02:21] <i-hope-this-name> SeaPhor: Nvidia or nvidia? linux is case-sensitive
[02:22] <Gohalien> SeaPhor, hehe, yes, but I dont know what version of the driver I am using >.< if the "new" one or not
[02:22] <bazhang> darknessinc could you clarify please
[02:22] <UnknownFear> nvidia
[02:22] <arbir> RyanPrior: i enabled the cube... but it only flips when i change my work space... is there no way to just see the cube float in space ?
[02:22] <clint101> bazhang, they are Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016)]/dists/gutsy/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[02:22] <clint101> Failed to fetch cdrom:[Ubuntu 7.10 _Gutsy Gibbon_ - Release i386 (20071016)]/dists/gutsy/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Please use apt-cdrom to make this CD-ROM recognized by APT. apt-get update cannot be used to add new CD-ROMs
[02:22] <clint101> Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[02:22] <Krimson> amenado: you there man?
[02:22] <i-hope-this-name> arbir: nah, just when you change workspaces AFAIK
[02:22] <RyanPrior> arbir: hold ctrl+alt and click+drag
[02:22] <clint101> opps
[02:22] <Derander> has anyone had any experience with apt-get failing to install msttcorefonts with an error regarding a proxy?
[02:22] <clint101> oops
[02:22] <bazhang> AdemoS, sounds like a router issue
[02:22] <clint101> let me go into a text editor and clean that up
[02:23] <AdemoS> bazhang, I had no issues, router or modem in 7.10 live cd though....
[02:23] <fde> edwin: It is not a sloppy workaround, it is a GUI for managing .desktop files... Windows apps know nothing about Linux, Wine would remove the entries via 'Uninstall Windows Applications" ime, but if they don't go, you have to remove the entry.
[02:23] <bazhang> clint101, remove the cdrom as a software source in software sources then hit reload
[02:23] <i-hope-this-name> Derander: do you get that error only with that package, or when you try to install anything?
[02:23] <clint101> baz ... can you tell me where I'd find that?
[02:23] <AdemoS> bazhang, and even if I use 7.10 live cd now, it works
[02:23] <arbir> RyanPrior: boy o boy! thats like a dream come true
[02:23] <bazhang> AdemoS, well then you need to give tons more info--'it worked in gutsy' is of little help thanks
[02:23] <SeaPhor> i-hope-this-name, not ALL-ways case sensitive, can be if chosen as option, but he has not config'd that option that he has said
[02:23] <_newbie__00> bazhang ,  i have two 10\100mb  card and   1 comp have adsl modem but  i dont need  internet sharing i m need only folders sharing
[02:23] <RyanPrior> arbir: Pretty slick, eh? :-)
[02:23] <AdemoS> bazhang, I have a seperate computer this time, what do you need?
[02:23] <Gohalien> SeaPhor, anyway how to check what version of nvidia driver I am using ?
[02:24] <bazhang> AdemoS, then perhaps you should stick with gutsy for the moment
[02:24] <chetnick> anyone sucessfully installed vmware workstation on 8.04?
[02:24] <arbir> RyanPrior: can I leave a desktop in that half turned state ? it always gets back to normal state
[02:24] <i-hope-this-name> SeaPhor: ah, i missed that part
[02:24] <Derander> i-hope-this-name: after I attempt to install the package, I get it when I try to install anything.  When I run the following command: "sudo /usr/bin/defoma-font register-all /etc/defoma/hints/msttcorefonts.hints" to enable me to remove the package, I once again am able to install (at least until I try and install microsoft fonts again)]
[02:24] <bazhang> _newbie__00, both are linux or one linux and one windows
[02:24] <AdemoS> bazhang, I have, but all my software updates have been stoped for gutsy, so I'm forced to upgrade
[02:24] <RyanPrior> arbir: In the future you might be able to, but right now you have to be viewing a viewport full-on to interact with the windows.
[02:24] <arbir> RyanPrior: this is super slick....
[02:24] <bazhang> AdemoS, gutsy will still be supported for quite a while-->if it works for you best to do that then
[02:25] <_newbie__00> bazhang 2 ubuntu 8.04
[02:25] <i-hope-this-name> Derander: that is very strange, ive never had that happen to me. perhaps you could find it as a .deb somewhere online and install it that way?
[02:25] <Derander> i-hope-this-name: found one, same problem. :-(
[02:25] <SeaPhor> Gohalien, try lspci, for pci device,,, (sudo always) sudo lshw and see what those tell u
[02:25] <arbir> RyanPrior: compizconfig-settings-manager is already installed in my machine... i dont see it in the menus though
[02:25] <Derander> i-hope-this-name: found two, actually
[02:25] <bazhang> AdemoS, there is no 'forced to upgrade in linux' some people still use breezy
[02:25] <AdemoS> bazhang, getdeb.net dropped support, and all ubuntu repos have old versions of software, for my uses, I need the latest versions
[02:25] <Gohalien> SeaPhor, Ok
[02:25] <i-hope-this-name> Derander: wow.
[02:25] <i-hope-this-name> Derander: lemmie think
[02:25] <RyanPrior> arbir: It'll be in System -> Preferences -> Advanced Desktop Effects Settings
[02:25] <bazhang> _newbie__00, what about nfs then /msg ubottu nfs
[02:26] <Mimi> arbir,     go to preferences    > advanced animation settings or whatever its called ;p
[02:26] <Derander> i-hope-this-name: this is all building up to hopefully getting flash to work
[02:26] <dessnr> !nfs
[02:26] <arbir> yeah yeah i saw this.... @ RyanPrior
[02:26] <i-hope-this-name> Derander: ah-ha.
[02:26] <Starnestommy> someone needs to get ubottu to set unfiltered on with nickserv
[02:26] <arbir> RyanPrior: yesterday i got upto this menu and then i did something and i could not click on any button... i had to reinstall my Ubuntu
[02:26] <clint101> baz ... I found it in System > Administration > Software Sources
[02:26] <j1solutions> how much does linux cost?
[02:27] <Chris|> bazhang, would you care to help me with this error? configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:27] <edwin> fde: when i have to delete the entire programs folder and reinstall wine just to get the default back, yes it is sloppy. I can't just uninstall the program's menu entry because wine doesn't work like that. wine uses a symbolic link and tells alacarte to display everything in it
[02:27] <i-hope-this-name> Derander: another idea, download the fonts on their own and move them to ~/.fonts
[02:27] <RyanPrior> arbir: Yup. The advanced settings gives you enough rope to do some cool tricks, but also enough to hang yourself unfortunately.
[02:27] <bazhang> AdemoS, then you need to suffer with the rest of us in crushing the bugs in Hardy ;]
[02:27] <i-hope-this-name> Derander: assuming that's where they go... might not be; they might be in /usr/local/fonts or somesuch systemwide dir
[02:27] <Derander> i-hope-this-name: yeah, was about to do that.  I was hoping I wasn't going to need to though :-(
[02:27] <Sergeant_Pony> bazhang: is there a real good wireless connection manager for Gnome? I have several networks I connect to.
[02:27] <Starnestommy> Chris|: is build-essential installed
[02:27] <Chris|> it is now
[02:27] <Derander> i-hope-this-name: yeah, I know where they're supposed to go
[02:27] <fde> edwin: uhh, I said nothing about that... if the entry wasn't there... then it just hadn't updated the menu yet, and would have been gone just by loading that app.
[02:27] <j1solutions> Seageant:  WICD is good
[02:27] <i-hope-this-name> Derander: are you behind a proxy, anyway?
[02:28] <AdemoS> bazhang, yeah, hense why I'm trying to fix the issue, but internet access cancells out all other work to be done (like getting the restricted drivers for vid card etc)
[02:28] <bazhang> Sergeant_Pony, wicd perhaps (some have reported success with that); not sure really
[02:28] <Derander> i-hope-this-name: not that I know of
[02:28] <i-hope-this-name> Derander: also, your repo list might be old, try updating it
[02:28] <i-hope-this-name> Derander: that's really weird.
[02:28] <Derander> i-hope-this-name: it's trying to use proxy http://:8080 (i.e. nothing)
[02:28] <_newbie__00> bazhang i  not using nfs but it need ?
[02:28] <Sergeant_Pony> bazhang: where can I find that? package manager doesn't list it
[02:28] <Derander> i-hope-this-name: how exactly do I update my repo list?  sudo apt-get upgrade?
[02:28] <fde> !repomirror | Derander
[02:28] <bazhang> Sergeant_Pony, I forgot the url just a sec
[02:28] <arbir> i got shot out
[02:29] <bazhang> http://wicd.sourceforge.net/ Sergeant_Pony
[02:29] <SeaPhor> Gohalien, you might ask open in room, i am still a n00b and don't know the easiest way for that
[02:29] <Sergeant_Pony> bazhang: thanks
[02:29]  * Derander mutters about GUIS
[02:29] <bazhang> AdemoS, I forgot your issue sorry :)
[02:30] <Mimi> How can I make all my applications look about the same? Kde apps, X apps, java apps,  look veeerrrry ugly on gnome - thanks in advance!
[02:30] <Gohalien> SeaPhor, Ok
[02:30] <i-hope-this-name> Derander: i believe so. are you in term? if you have X up, just gksudo synaptic and hit the 'reload' button on the left
[02:30] <AdemoS> bazhang, Ubuntu 8.04 Live CD--- Wireless Modem Issue: (worked out of the box with 7.10) Right before booting into the desktop GUI, I get a "IO Read Error" on zd1211, and then when attempting to use NMGnome, it sees my modem but cannot find any Wifi networks. Manually entering the networks doesn't work either.
[02:30] <clint101> bazhang ... that seemed to do it ... now says '... updated less than an hour ago'
[02:30] <Fishscene> Hello everyone. I have a 3D question. I have a program that runs a test with a window of spinning gears. The window shows up fine, but the application can't detect that 3D acceleration is perfectly fine. Do I need to find a non-free video driver?
[02:30] <clint101> thanks.
[02:30] <bazhang> mimi there is a gtk-qt package that does that-->forgot the name though
[02:30] <i-hope-this-name> Derander: might be `sudo synaptic update` too
[02:30] <Mimi> And while we're at it, how can I set my cursor theme to be the only one used? Depending what window I am, I see 3 diff kinds of cursors :p
[02:30] <Gohalien> People, how to check what nvidia driver/packet version I am using ? I dont know if nvidia, nvidia-new or nvidia-glx-new
[02:30] <fde> Derander: System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager... Settings > Preferences > "Network" tab > "Manual proxy configuration"
[02:30] <i-hope-this-name> Derander: **`sudo apt-get update`
[02:31] <dessnr> Mimi: http://www.gnome-look.org/
[02:31] <Mimi> dessnr, .....
[02:31] <bazhang> AdemoS, adsl modem? you got a router?
[02:31] <Derander> fde: I ran the "select best server" - it told me that there was no suitable server ;-)
[02:31] <Mimi> dessnr,  read the question, LOL
[02:31] <Scunizi> Fishscene: usually all you need to do is go to the restricted drivers manager and enable the video drivers..
[02:31] <fuzzybyt1> why does my ubuntu keep randomly resetting the X server for no reason??
[02:31] <bazhang> Mimi, delete the others
[02:31] <fuzzybyt1> it happens every few hours
[02:31] <edwin> fde: which means I then have to edit the "wine-Programs.menu" file by hand and/or delete the appropriate desktopfile from ~/.local/share/applications/wine/Programs folder
[02:31] <j1solutions> harley davidson
[02:31] <Fishscene> Scunizi, no restricted drivers are listed. =\
[02:31] <dessnr> Mimi: i read the question, the link i provided will make gnome look nicer.  it has themes.
[02:31] <fde> Derander: ahh... well, pick one from the list and see if it'll do its thing... what version of Ubuntu?
[02:31] <AdemoS> bazhang, modem = belkin F5D7050  router = 2wire
[02:31] <Scunizi> Fishscene: do you have ati or nvidia or something else?
[02:32] <Derander> fde: hardy, downloaded last night
[02:32] <Fishscene> I believe ATI. I can research this though.
[02:32] <Derander> fde: trying to get flash running
[02:32] <fde> edwin: Umm, or just use the tool I showed you...
[02:32] <bazhang> AdemoS, can you connect to the router?
[02:32] <Mimi> dessnr,  thanks  but ive been going  to that site for  about 2 years now. Its now what I asked, however. the themes are only applied to gnome apps.
[02:32] <Derander> i-hope-this-name: yeah, I did those things and it is still failing on the install
[02:32] <fde> edwin: which does exactly that.
[02:32] <edwin> fde: as far as hasn't updated the menu, it doesn't.
[02:32] <Scunizi> Fishscene: someone else will have to guide you for ati.. nvidia should be a slam dunk
[02:32] <dessnr> Mimi: Understood.
[02:32] <fde> Derander: your internet is up?
[02:32] <edwin> fde: no it doesn't
[02:33] <fde> (on the Ubuntu machine)
[02:33] <Fishscene> Scunizi, thanks
[02:33] <bazhang> Mimi, you want kde themes? I'm not sure I am understanding you either-->thought it was making kde stuff look more gnome-ish
[02:33] <Scunizi> Fishscene: np.. wish I could do more.
[02:33] <amenado> Krimson
[02:33] <edwin> the only menu entry in alacarte i get for wine is "Programs"
[02:33] <Derander> fde: That is how I'm speaking to you - this box is running hardy and installing everything else like a champ ;-)
[02:33] <Jordan_U> Mimi, There is a way to make gtk apps match your qt themes, I think visa versa is possible as well
[02:33] <fde> edwin: Uh, yes it does... read the source for alacarte please...
[02:33] <edwin> fde: nothing about individual entries for programs installed via wine
[02:34] <randal> does anyone know how to make your window when you close it like burst into fire
[02:34] <SeaPhor> bazhang, its been my xp and i can be wrong but 2wire makes modem/router combos and belkin makes routers
[02:34] <AdemoS> bazhang, yes, 8.04 is the first to give any issues with this modem
[02:34] <Achoth> How do you make the apache webserver from an external source?
[02:34] <Achoth> How do you make the apache webserver reachable from an external source?
[02:34] <Jordan_U> !ccsm | randal
[02:34] <Mimi> bazhang,  well it would be great if the cursorrs, icons, themes are the same across all the applications, but if it's not posisble Ill take the best I can get. Jordan_U  I have a kde theme  which thankfully makes kde apps look okay. but what if im using a root app? What if its a window not styled by gnome or kde?  eh... ^^;;;;;; I ask for too much?
[02:34] <fde> edwin: I'm not arguing with you, do it the hard way, I only have 8 years of experience dealing with the issue, and have read the alacarte source... what do I know.
[02:34] <Derander> It's amazing to me how 8.04 has been aproximately as bad an experience as 7.04, whereas the non-lts 7.10 was plug and play :-P
[02:35] <bazhang> AdemoS, okay; let's leave that out of the equation shall we? It worked in gutsy, etc does NOT matter-->we want it to work in Hardy right?
[02:35] <randal> ubottu: whats the code agian to install it
[02:35] <Mimi> Achoth,    #ubuntu-server
[02:35] <lorenzo_> hi, I cant seem to find the compiz plugin options under system->preferences. where am i supposed to look? it may sound silly but i cant tell
[02:35] <randal> ubottu: whats the code agian to install it
[02:35] <bazhang> mimi install fluxbox and avoid the headache
[02:35] <Mimi> randal,    sudo apt-get install simple-ccsm
[02:35] <edwin> fde: 8 years experience and still can't give clear instructions. it's not under wine. you have to expand wine looks like
[02:35] <joetheodd> randal, he can't answer you :P
[02:35] <AdemoS> bazhang, okay, it can be found, but can not find any wifi, so I assume no connection to router
[02:35] <Derander> lorenzo_: system->preferences->appearance->visual effects
[02:35] <Achoth> Mimi: I'm doing it on Ubuntu Desktop, not Ubuntu Server
[02:35] <Mimi> bazhang,   how come? Explain! Im curious :D
[02:36] <bazhang> AdemoS, you need an ethernet cable to connect to the modem
[02:36] <yit4s> how can i get ubuntu to boot faster?
[02:36] <Mimi> Achoth,  thats ok, its still a server question, youll get better help there
[02:36] <bazhang> AdemoS, err the router
[02:36] <Achoth> Mimi: Roger that, I'll ask there
[02:36] <lorenzo_> Derander: yeah that is what i thought, i can only select No effects, normal or Additional effects there. I do not see the plugins tab
[02:36] <Jordan_U> Mimi, Firefox3 should match your gtk theme ( even though it uses XUL, not gtk ), applications run as root IMHO *should* look different but you can also just copy over your theme preference files to /root and there are few major applications that don't use gtk or qt
[02:37] <fde> edwin: Didn't occur to you to click the triangle by the word 'Wine' ? I refuse to assist someone so rude though, knock yourself out.
[02:37]  * spass is away: spi
[02:37] <AdemoS> bazhang, I wanted to try this guide, but I don't understand how I could do this....unless I'm supposed to use a ethernet cable, run it, and bring it back.... http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2007/08/howto-setup-belkin-wireless-g-f5d7050.html
[02:37] <Derander> lorenzo_: Ah, you'll have to install "compizconfig-settings-manager".  in terminal: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:37]  * Derander will be back.
[02:37] <dessnr> Mimi: As far as I know there is no way to have, how you theme gnome, effect KDE at the same time.  They are two separate desktops.
[02:37] <yit4s> mimi: i havent resolve my mount disk issue... :d
[02:37] <jrib> lorenzo_, Derander: in hardy, you need to install simple-ccsm
[02:37] <bazhang> AdemoS, we may or may not need that; did that get it working for you?
[02:38] <sbansal> how to connect laptop to TV through S-video cable
[02:38] <Mimi> bazhang,  does  fluxbox run well with compiz? in gnome, I dont even just the panel, just compiz, emerald and awn
[02:38] <AdemoS> bazhang, haven't been able to try it yet, since I can't get a connection to wget
[02:38] <lorenzo_> jrib: oh, so i gave  sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager, what should i do?
[02:38] <judgepg> guys, anyone know why I get a white screen when I change users in Ubuntu?
[02:38] <Mimi> Oh hello yit4s. If I remembered correctly, you wanted your NTFS/windows partition to be mounted as soon as you login, right?
[02:38] <lorenzo_> jrib: remove that and install simple ccsm?
[02:38] <bazhang> Mimi, flux with compiz? if you want awn and the rest best stay with gnome then
[02:38] <jrib> lorenzo_: you can still use ccsm, but to get the option in preferences, you'll have to install simple-ccsm as well
[02:39] <Mimi> thanks bazhang
[02:39] <yit4s> mimi:yeah
[02:39] <Mimi> yit4s,  did anyone help you out? If so, was there any progress?
[02:39] <sbansal> anybody knows how to see the video signal from my laptops on TV
[02:39] <yit4s> mimi:i also need to make my ubuntu boots faster
[02:39] <yit4s> mimi:none
[02:39] <lorenzo_> so i do  sudo apt-get install simple-ccsm?
[02:39] <mickey> anybody know why flash isn't installing for non admin accounts?
[02:39] <bazhang> AdemoS, do you have an ethernet cable? attach it to the router and to your computer and then use a browser to connect
[02:39] <sbansal> please help
[02:39] <sbansal> ????///
[02:40] <bazhang> AdemoS, back in a second
[02:40] <Simonf2> hello?
[02:40] <lorenzo_> jrib: ok, got it, thanks a lot!
[02:40] <yit4s> mimi:i'm not sure what fstab does after i man fstab-ed terminal
[02:40] <sbansal> how  to connect s-video cable from my ubuntu laptop to TV
[02:40] <DIL> is the root password the same as sudo password if not how do you assigne the sudo pw to be diff from root
[02:40] <Mimi> Ok, yit4s  I'm a bit tired, so I'm going to try to have us do this slow, to make sure we dont mess up okay? ^_^; Ok. fstab is a small text file that tells your computer which drives/partitions to mount, and where to mount them at.
[02:40] <lorenzo_> jrib: yeah i see the preferences button now, thanks for your help
[02:40] <sbansal> how to see the video signal
[02:41] <AdemoS> bazhang, yeah I guess I'll bring the massive beast to the basement, and hook it up via ethernet cable. I was just trying to avoid that because it's heavy and it wouldn't allow me to use my machine till I fixed it
[02:41] <Fishscene> !sudo
[02:41] <Fishscene> ...dang, wrong command
[02:41] <AdemoS> bazhang, thanks for your help, later
[02:41] <joetheodd> yit4s, fstab is the "file system tab" -- it basically lists off which devices (file systems) will be mounted where on system start
[02:41] <Fishscene> !root > DIL
[02:41] <yit4s> mimi: okay. we should start at the beginning because i'm really not sure how to do stuff in ubuntu
[02:41] <amenado> whose using Bonding? does the load balancing work ? how do you test it? i tried unplugging one ethernet but the whole connection fails..
[02:41] <arbir> compiz rules!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[02:42] <yit4s> mimi: like it took me 2 days to get my wireless working
[02:42] <sbansal> anybody knows about it????? Please help, how to see my laptop display on TV
[02:42] <arbir> i think, i wont buy a Mac .... its put off my decision
[02:42] <zelrikriando> arbir: welcome :)
[02:42] <WanderingStar> sbansal, what type of video card do you have in your laptop?
[02:42] <Elazar> I've installed Hardy on my Sony Vaio VGN-NR298E. I attempted to install the latest iwl4985 driver using ndiswrapper. The installation seemed to work fine, but when I rebooted I get this: "udevd-event[3171]: run_program: '/sbin/modprobe' abnormal exit [fail]" and then it hangs on the process of "Loading manual drivers." Any suggestions on how I can rectify this? Can't even boot to GNOME anyymore. :\
[02:42] <DIL> Fishscene: blud claat
[02:43] <sbansal> i am not sure, how to check it
[02:43] <sbansal> ?
[02:43] <phixxor1> hey I set up a vlc stream and specified the target ip address, now how do I connect to it?
[02:43] <arbir> zelrikriando: can you change the size of your firefox tab buttons ?
[02:43] <Fishscene> DIL: hm?
[02:43] <HermanChess> how do I add a user to a group ?
[02:43] <Mimi> yit4s,  that's okay.   Okay, first off, I dont remember which was your drive, only that it was mounted at /media/disk.  yit4s  if your drive is mounted at the moment, could you go to a TERMINAL and type       mount   (press enter)   and paste the output  at paste.ubuntu.com
[02:43] <dessnr> yit4s and Mimi:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432659
[02:43] <zelrikriando> arbir: I dont know. I dont use FF
[02:43] <arbir> HermanChess: open the /etc/groups files
[02:43] <joetheodd> I'm having the problem with compiz being enabled and hiding the window border / title bar. I can disable it just fine, but can anyone tell me how to fix the problem so I can use compiz?
[02:43] <amenado> HermanChess-> useradd ..i dont remember all the options..man useradd
[02:44] <fuzzybyt1> why does my ubuntu keep randomly resetting the X server for no apparent reason every few hours? help pleaaase :(
[02:44] <WanderingStar> sbansal, what type of notebook?
[02:44] <arbir> zelrikriando: how can i change the colour of my windows in the taskbar.... mine are difficult to recognize.. which window is currently in focus
[02:44] <sbansal> dell Inspiron
[02:44] <sbansal> 1525
[02:44] <Mimi> fuzzybyt1,  (cute name btw!)   what do you mean ressetting? you mean it "crashes" and you need to log in again?
[02:44] <Fishscene> ok. apparently I have an Intel 945GM Display chipset. Does anyone know of a way to force recognition of 3D accelleration?
[02:44] <arbir> sbansal: whats ur question ?
[02:44] <yit4s> mimi: here it is>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11212/
[02:44] <zelrikriando> arbir: I dont get it :)
[02:45] <sbansal> i have connect my laptop via s-video cable to TV but i am not able to see any signal
[02:45] <sbansal> on TV
[02:45] <usser> Fishscene, intel drivers should have 3d by default
[02:45] <arbir> zelrikriando: i have a few windows in my task bar .... but all of them look the same.... i want  way to colour those windows where the currently in focus window's colour stands out
[02:45] <usser> Fishscene, now compiz on those is another story
[02:45] <arbir> sbansal.. you have to enable second monitor on ur laptop
[02:46] <fuzzybyt1> Mimi: exactly
[02:46] <usser> Fishscene, last i remember intel was blacklisted due to problems with compiz and xv video playback
[02:46] <zelrikriando> arbir: I am not sure...but you can try installing different themes...to see
[02:46] <sbansal> how to do that?
[02:46] <chaosrl> can anybody help me get compiz working with an ATi x1400?
[02:46] <arbir> or press Fn + f10 in ur dell laptop @ sbansal
[02:46] <Fishscene> usser, I'm able to enable compiz just fine actually- jiggly windows and all. And when I perform 3D tests, I see the rotating gears (indicating that 3D is supported), however, the application thinks that 3D is not supported
[02:46] <Mimi> thanks yit4s   okay, could you    run      sudo /etc/fstab       copy everything from that file and paste it to me too.   (make sure you dont change ANYTHING on that file :)
[02:46] <fuzzybyt1> Mimi: it happens totally randomly. i don't know what's causing it tough
[02:46] <tkraus> is it just me or does the monitor/resolution detection in 8.04 blow goats? i'm so frustrated with this right now I'm about ready to blow it away and find a new distribution, and i've been using ubuntu for years
[02:46] <WanderingStar> sbansal, if you run "xranr --auto" what happens?
[02:46] <Fishscene> usser, is there any way to unblacklist my chipset?
[02:46] <arbir> zelrikriando: let me see what i can do.
[02:46] <phixxor1> hey how do I connect to a stream with vlc
[02:46] <usser> Fishscene, do glxinfo | grep direct
[02:47] <zelrikriando> !themes
[02:47] <zelrikriando> arbir:  :)
[02:47] <usser> Fishscene, and cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep intel
[02:47] <Wise-Guy> i can't get my DVD R drive to mount
[02:47] <Mimi> dessnr,   I understand s/he could just go to that forum thread, but s/he will follow it and not learn anything. It looks like s/he wants to be taught, which is so great! I can try to help slowly and s/he'll probably learn somemthing good from it ^_^
[02:47] <kindofabuzz> is it not possible to virtualbox an os on a seperate partition?
[02:47] <arbir> thanks a ton @ zelrikriando
[02:47] <Wise-Guy> i have the error message still up
[02:47] <Fishscene> ok first command "direct rendering: Yes"
[02:47] <Mimi> kindofabuzz,    its possible
[02:47] <usser> Fishscene, first one should say Yes and second should produce a line that has Intel in it
[02:47] <arbir> is gone for dinner
[02:47] <kindofabuzz> Mimi: got a link? =)
[02:47] <yit4s> mimi: is it <run sudo /etc/fstab> or <sudo /etc/fstab>?
[02:48] <Fishscene> 2nd one is blank
[02:48] <zelrikriando> arbir: some themes do changes things quite a lot...so you might be lucky
[02:48] <Mimi> yit4s,           sudo   /etc/fstab
[02:48] <zelrikriando> the colors that is
[02:48] <usser> Fishscene, do cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Driver
[02:48] <arbir> zelrikriando: i have messed up my comp so many times due to these themes
[02:48] <fuzzybyt1> Mimi: it's not really a crash even actually. it's the same as pressing ctrl+alt+del.
[02:48] <sbansal> nothing happens, may be i donot know how to run it?
[02:48] <yit4s> mimi: i get command not found
[02:48] <usser> Fishscene, last line should be your video driver?
[02:48] <Mimi> kindofabuzz,  I didn't have to follow a guide... i had a .vdi (virtual disk) on another partition as a back up. i installed  virtual box and told it where the .vdi was, and it uses it :)
[02:48] <arbir> zelrikriando: still i am greedy :-)
[02:48] <sbansal> nothing happens, may be i donot know how to run it?
[02:49] <arbir> zelrikriando: there was one problem which i could not solve..
[02:49] <Fishscene> usser, there is no video driver listed..
[02:49] <kindofabuzz> Mimi: well how would i make a vdi of that os?
[02:49] <zelrikriando> arbir: I can tell you about some I use...I have some black ones
[02:49] <Mimi> yit4s,   im so sorry !!!   sudo  gedit /etc/fstab                (told ya im tired!! )
[02:49] <Fishscene> Just "kbd", "Mouse", and "Synaptics"
[02:49] <eisenhower> hey, how can i figure out what version of java i have installed on my system?
[02:49] <arbir> zelrikriando: please tell me
[02:49] <kindofabuzz> eisenhower: java --version
[02:49] <bazhang> ademos you still around?
[02:49] <bazhang> oh he left
[02:49] <sbansal> how should i enable 2nd monitor on my laptop
[02:49] <usser> Fishscene, what is there, can u just pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:49] <Mimi> kindofabuzz,  mmmm are you trying to say you want to use virtual box to run a REAL  OS that's on a partition? not a virtual OS?
[02:49] <Fishscene> sure
[02:49] <usser> !pastebin | Fishscene
[02:50] <arbir> zelrikriando: i am unable to bind my Super key with any of my shortcuts.... the moment i press my super key, a command gets executed
[02:50] <kindofabuzz> Mimi: yeeh, i'm gonna put freeBSD on another partition, and was wondering if i can virtual box it while in ubuntu
[02:50] <yit4s> mimi: lol! here it is> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11213/
[02:50] <Eppy> hi, all.
[02:50] <Mimi> arbir,  zelrikriando   could you both  highlight me when you talk about that issue? I got it too... Id like to follow the discussion ^^
[02:50] <Wise-Guy> tell me how to find out why my DVD drive won't mount
[02:50] <sbansal> how should i enable 2nd monitor on my laptop? Please help?
[02:50] <Eppy> just started xchat, and it defaulted here.  not sticking around long.
[02:50] <Mimi> it cant kindofabuzz  :(
[02:50] <Wise-Guy> and i'll paste the answer there
[02:50] <WanderingStar> kindofabuzz, - I think using non-image disks is vmware only...
[02:51] <kindofabuzz> Mimi: damn ok
[02:51] <kindofabuzz> WanderingStar: oh i can vmware it?
[02:51] <STSX> Does anyone know a good reference for all the "ctrl-alt---" commands, like cntrl-alt-F2, ctrl-alt-Sys Rq, etc?
[02:51] <zelrikriando> arbir: so for GTK : Wii-black , dodol..
[02:51] <WanderingStar> kindofabuzz, yes, VM-Ware server should be able to...
[02:51] <kindofabuzz> WanderingStar: thanks buddie
[02:51] <WanderingStar> kindofabuzz, np
[02:51] <bazhang> kindofabuzz, you can take the vmware image and install to a partition
[02:52] <arbir> zelrikriando:   Mimi: i just cannot use my super key.... i have bound Super + E.. to show my home folder.. but the moment i press super key.. it shows, it. it does not wait for the E key to be pressed after super key is pressed.
[02:52] <sbansal> i have connect my laptop via s-video cable to TV but i am not able to see any signal
[02:52] <Fishscene> usser, I'm having difficulty saving the output. ROFL. I always have difficulty trying to navigate the filesystem =(
[02:52] <eisenhower> alright , I def need help then. I installed java 6. but not it says i have 1.5  . Any idea what to do?
[02:52] <raulh> does anyone know how to get my rythym player to detect files that are hidden because of ipods stupid security?
[02:52] <kindofabuzz> so install the os, install vmware server, make an image, and mount it in vmware client in ubuntu?
[02:52] <arbir> zelrikriando: Wii-black eh ? let me take a loo k? is it in gnome-art.org ?
[02:52] <usser> Fishscene, just do cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf > file.txt
[02:52] <paulcross> Everyday I received about 20 blank emails from<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Is this a bug?
[02:52] <usser> Fishscene, then copy/paste that file.txt
[02:52] <zelrikriando> arbir: yup it is...it s quite a nice one
[02:52] <bazhang> arbir, then yo need to reset keybindings
[02:53] <arbir> bazhang: how do you do that ?
[02:53] <Mimi> Thanks yit4s   .... okay,  let me just make sure you really got this installed. type          which ntfs-3g           and tell me what it says to you
[02:53] <raulh> paulcross: hows this have to matter with ubuntu ?
[02:53] <bazhang> in ccsm arbir
[02:53] <kindofabuzz> for all you ipod users, google rockbox, total firmware replacement
[02:53] <raulh> i have rockbox
[02:53] <raulh> i have a dead screen and a pod stuck on hold
[02:53] <zelrikriando> arbir: Mimi I dont have any real problem with key-bindings...try to find out if there are conflicts...
[02:53] <bazhang> paulcross, best to contact canonical about that
[02:53] <arbir> bazhang: what is ccsm ?
[02:53] <WanderingStar> kindofabuzz, not done it, so don't know the specifics, however documentation exists... somewhere I can't find :)
[02:53] <kindofabuzz> raulh: rockbox locked it up?
[02:54] <raulh> so rockbox locks it? not ipod's firmware?
[02:54] <paulcross> raulh, because canonical is the company which produced ubuntu.
[02:54] <Fishscene> usser: http://pastebin.com/d525a18c2
[02:54] <bazhang> paulcross, nothing to do with this channel
[02:54] <raulh> k, sorry, my bad paul
[02:54] <SeaPhor> paulcross, have you replied and asked "why am I ,,"
[02:54] <yit4s> mimi: from <which ntfs-3g>, i get /bin/ntfs-3g
[02:54] <kindofabuzz> raulh: i don't know anything about it, just seen it, i heard you can reconnect to itunes and get the original firmware back
[02:54] <Mimi> zelrikriando,   arbir  the issue is, when you go to assign a binding, say "Ok, I want to show the Run dialog when I hit Super+R" so you go and tell it to use it... it doesn't  let you put the combo in there. it really stinks!
[02:54] <raulh> dude i have original firmware
[02:54] <raulh> my music is locked
[02:55] <raulh> and i cant access it
[02:55] <paulcross> SeaPhor, .........................
[02:55] <zelrikriando> arbir: http://img163.imageshack.us/my.php?image=capturevq5.png
[02:55] <arbir> Mimi: ditto.. ihave same problem
[02:55] <kindofabuzz> raulh: you just said you have rockbox
[02:55] <raulh> im wondering how can i access it is it rockbox who locks it or ipods firmare
[02:55] <bazhang> raulh, how is rockbox to do with ubuntu
[02:55] <raulh> someone mentioned it
[02:55] <usser> Fishscene, whatta, you sure thats all?
[02:55] <raulh> and i said i had it
[02:55] <bazhang> raulh, it s offtopic here
[02:55] <raulh> rythmbox wont detect these files in my ipods drive
[02:55] <kindofabuzz> bazhang: lol i dunno, it's in the 6 degrees of seperation though i bet lol
[02:55] <raulh> and its completley ontopic
[02:55] <raulh> please learn to read
[02:56] <Fishscene> usser, I didn't delete anything. I'm using UBuntu Hardy Heron
[02:56] <bazhang> raulh, you addressing me
[02:56] <randomwalker> i have to say i'm amazed by the total lack of anything resembling human-friendly webcam software
[02:56] <Flannel> randomwalker: What are you looking for when you say "webcam software"?
[02:56] <raulh> afk
[02:56] <Mimi> yit4s,   you still have that fstab  file open? If so ,  replace everything by   http://paste.ubuntu.com/11214/
[02:56] <kindofabuzz> randomwalker: why do you need software just to se a video image from a cam?
[02:56] <SeaPhor> paulcross, well if you are receiving email by mistake,, they should know, imagine the security issues,, canonical is the owner of Ubuntu, right?
[02:56] <usser> Fishscene, open up terminal and type sudo apt-get install 915resolution
[02:56] <zelrikriando> Mimi: arbir do you have an example of binding that doesnt work? so I can try
[02:56] <Mimi> yit4s,  im sorry use this one instead http://paste.ubuntu.com/11214/plain/   (easier to see)
[02:57] <usser> Fishscene, after its done do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:57] <eisenhower> can someone help me get the right version of java?
[02:57] <sbansal> i have connect my laptop via s-video cable to TV but i am not able to see any signal
[02:57] <randomwalker> because it has to let me preview the live stream and hopefully have some limited gui editing features
[02:57] <bazhang> eisenhower, which version is right one for you
[02:57] <arbir> zelrikriando: Mimi: Super + E should open my home folder
[02:57] <usser> Fishscene, its going to reconfigure your xorg
[02:57] <kindofabuzz> randomwalker: there are several in the repos
[02:57] <sbansal> any ideas how to do it
[02:57] <ibleed> .
[02:57] <zelrikriando> arbir: that does expo with me
[02:57] <eisenhower> bazhang: it says 1.5.0 but I don't know where its installing it...
[02:57] <Flannel> randomwalker: You want to stream to what though? web server? another person? images?
[02:57] <Fishscene> ok
[02:57] <arbir> zelrikriando: when i press super + E, it always shows it as super + L
[02:57] <Mimi> zelrikriando, arbir   anything that uses super key. if you go to the keybinding tool, and you *try* to tell it to use anything with super + a letter, it will only assign super, not the letter, i think thats whats hapennig
[02:57] <WanderingStar> randomwalker, cheese perhaps?
[02:57] <eisenhower> bazhang: i installed java 6 using apt-get ..
[02:58] <arbir> Mimi: exactly, you have hit the nail on the head
[02:58] <bazhang> eisenhower, could you please clarify the issue thanks
[02:58] <usser> Fishscene, just answer its pretty simple questions, select intel driver when it asks etc if anything is confusing ask me
[02:58] <randomwalker> i've tried cheese. it's the only one that *tries* to do what i want, but it doesn't work.. 2 second lag
[02:58] <eisenhower> bazhang:  I installed java 6 but it keeps saying i have 1.5.0
[02:58] <randomwalker> which many other people have also reported. it's addressed in the faq but the fixes didn't work
[02:58] <bazhang> randomwalker, have you checked the webcams supported in ubuntu list
[02:58] <randomwalker> bazhang, it's not a driver issue
[02:58] <yit4s> mimi: everything in the bin??
[02:58] <Fishscene> usser, ok, I'm in the configuration thing.
[02:58] <randomwalker> basic video capture works fine
[02:58] <Flannel> randomwalker: please fully specify what you're looking for, or else we can't help.
[02:58] <Fishscene> It's asking me "Use Kernel framebuffer device interface?"
[02:58] <usser> Fishscene, right what does it say?
[02:59] <usser> Fishscene, leave default
[02:59] <bazhang> randomwalker, then the issue is lag? could be internet speed as well
[02:59] <Carpe^Noctem> Boo Bitches
[02:59] <ibleed> eisenhower, you can try sudo apt-get remove sun-java5-bin sun-java5-jre if you already have sun-java6-jre
[02:59] <bazhang> carpe language
[02:59] <Mimi> yit4s,  oopsy, no, run                     sudo gedit  /etc/fstab
[02:59] <randomwalker> bazhang, lag between camera and screen man!
[02:59] <Mimi> yit4s,  and repalce everything on that file with the new one I sent you
[02:59] <kindofabuzz> randomwalker: sudo apt-get camorama?
[02:59] <randomwalker> i'm not looking for anything fancy. nothing even has basic functionality.
[02:59] <yit4s> mimi: okay
[03:00] <kindofabuzz> camorama has preview and settings
[03:00] <randomwalker> kindofabuzz, tried that, exits with some error.
[03:00] <bazhang> randomwalker, not sure what to say-->many do work, not sure of your issue at this point sorry
[03:00] <randomwalker> bazhang, its ok, thanks
[03:00] <yit4s> mimi: okay, saved it
[03:00] <kindofabuzz> randomwalker: well what's the error, you gott abe specific to get a solution
[03:00] <eisenhower> ibleeed: It says it isn't installed... isn't that wierd....     java --version   ->  java 1.5.0
[03:00] <usser> Fishscene, how is it going?
[03:00] <tj43876_> i have 8.04 installed and i can not get emerald to work compiz effects work fine but i can't change default theme except in theme emerald does nothing when i click on a themes
[03:00] <paulcross> where to download the source code of  EVIENCE. I couldnt get it from its website.
[03:00] <yit4s> mimi:what do i do now?
[03:01] <Fishscene> I just finished
[03:01] <randomwalker> kindofabuzz, "could not connect to the video device /dev/video0"
[03:01] <jrib> paulcross: apt-get source evince
[03:01] <tj43876_> 64bit edition
[03:01] <ibleed> eisenhower, yes that is odd.  sorry i dont know the solution
[03:01] <bazhang> tj43876_, you have emerald manager installed
[03:01] <tj43876_> yesd
[03:01] <randomwalker> kindofabuzz, the other programs are at least able to connect to the device
[03:01] <kindofabuzz> randomwalker: then your cam isn';t on/dev/video0 evidently
[03:01] <Mimi> yit4s,   reboot and let me know if it mounts it this time
[03:01] <Coder8> Okay, what do I need to do to get audio working properly
[03:01] <yit4s> okay
[03:01] <usser> Fishscene, nice now do cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf > file.txt and pastebin it again
[03:01] <bazhang> tj43876_, what about alt f2 emerald --replace
[03:01] <usser> Fishscene, lets see what this thing came up with
[03:01] <Coder8> it works in some applications, but not in others
[03:02] <bazhang> Coder8, which dont work
[03:02] <randomwalker> kindofabuzz, it's the only video device that i have
[03:02] <paulcross> jrib, oh thank you
[03:02] <Fishscene> usser: http://pastebin.com/d126562cc
[03:02] <tj43876_> thanks i forgot to try that
[03:02] <chejrw> How do i boot from a live CD on a mac?
[03:02] <bazhang> intel mac? chejrw
[03:02] <chejrw> yes
[03:02] <Coder8> bazhang: well, for example, audio in flash in firefox
[03:02] <arbir> Mimi: did you solve that key binding issue ?
[03:02] <Dr_willis> chejrw,  depending on the mac. you hold down some key. C perhaps?
[03:03] <Fishscene> Chejrw, put the CD in the drive and while it is booting, press and hold the alt or control key when you hear the startup sound
[03:03] <nick_> i currently have ubuntu taking up my whole hard drive, and i need to repartition to install vista. does it matter what order i place my partitions in?
[03:03] <Coder8> bazhang: yet playing DVDs works fine
[03:03] <Mimi> arbir,   no i have not
[03:03] <bazhang> Coder8, that is an adobe bug-->libflashsupport *may* fix that
[03:03] <chejrw> ok
[03:03] <chejrw> ty
[03:03] <kindofabuzz> nick_: why would you wanna do that?!?
[03:03] <Flannel> chejrw: command-option-shift-delete
[03:03] <chejrw> is there a possibility I will lose all my data from mac osx?
[03:03] <Coder8> bazhang: okay, I'm also having trouble with some wine programs
[03:03] <arbir> Mimi: do you use firefox ?
[03:03] <Flannel> chejrw: or mabye 'c' depending
[03:03] <bazhang> nick_, you will need to fix grub afterwards
[03:03] <sbansal> i have connect my laptop via s-video cable to TV but i am not able to see any signal? any ideas how to do it? also the video card i have in my laptop is:  Intel Graphics Media Accelerator X3100
[03:03] <Mimi> yes arbir
[03:04] <Fishscene> nick_, Windows does not play nicely with non-windows OS's. You will need to re-install grub or re-install ubuntu after you install Vista
[03:04] <bazhang> Coder8, wine tends to hog the audio
[03:04] <arbir> mimi.. how can i increase the size of my close buttons on the tabs ?
[03:04] <nick_> bazhang, ok, what about the order of the partitions, does that matter?
[03:04] <WanderingStar> nick_, no, but windows needs a primary parition..
[03:04] <Coder8> bazhang: I really just want to get audio working in wine+oblivion to tell you the truth
[03:04] <bazhang> nick_, likely no
[03:04] <sbansal> Please help me?
[03:04] <bpat1434> Anyone here use avant window navigator/
[03:04] <bpat1434> ?
[03:04] <bazhang> Coder8, does appdb say that works
[03:04] <Mimi> arbir,  Thats a interesting question... !  Other than getting a new theme for firefox, I don't know, never thought of it!
[03:04] <usser> Fishscene, hm weird didnt change at all, u picked intel when it asked?
[03:04] <Daisuke_Ido> bpat1434: yep, what's the issue?
[03:04] <Mimi> yes i do bpat1434
[03:05] <WanderingStar> sbansal, if you run xrandr --auto what happens?
[03:05] <bazhang> bpat1434, what is your issue please
[03:05] <LeetSweden> Gi
[03:05] <LeetSweden> *Hi
[03:05] <sbansal> how to run that
[03:05] <nick_> ok, do i need to keep my swap and ubuntu partition next to eachother?
[03:05] <Mimi> !awn
[03:05] <bazhang> LeetSweden, hi ;]
[03:05] <Coder8> bazhang: I've had it working in wine before, just not under ubuntu
[03:05] <bpat1434> For whatever the reason is the AWN doesnt' save any of my data after I logoff or resteart
[03:05] <WanderingStar> nick_, nope
[03:05] <shane2peru> !hi | LeetSweden
[03:05] <yit4s> mimi: you rock!
[03:05] <Fishscene> usser, I just stuck with defauls. Let me run it again because I don't remember it asking me about Intel
[03:05] <nick_> okie dokie, thanks heaps!
[03:05] <Coder8> bazhang: usually the problem is video, but video works just fine
[03:05] <arbir> Mimi.. also i cannot tell which tab is currently in focus.. they all look the same to me right now... i have disbaled the close button, so only the current tab has the close button, I am surviving on that
[03:05] <Mimi> I take that it worked yit4s  ?! :D
[03:05] <bazhang> Coder8, well appdb talks about it working or not in different distros
[03:05] <LeetSweden> Anyone who tested KDE4?... It is good? :P
[03:05] <yit4s> mimi: very
[03:05] <usser> Fishscene, it should ask you something about the driver
[03:06] <Mimi> arbir,  uuuughh I had that problem, until I tried a different Gnome theme >.>
[03:06] <bpat1434> Daisuke_Ido: My "launchers" don't really save after I restart / quit, or if I happen to need to restart X
[03:06] <bazhang> LeetSweden, very neat but needs some work-->please join #kubuntu-kde4 for more
[03:06] <Fishscene> usser: no questions about Video of any sort other than the framebuffer. It was mainly a keyboard setup. O_o?
[03:06] <Mimi> yit4s,  Cool yit4s  :D  Let me know if I can helpp with anything else
[03:06] <sbansal> WanderingStar : Please tell me, how can i run the command
[03:06] <arbir> Mimi... i will get another theme once i solve this Super key issue.. i think i am getting close to it. i will tell you the solution if i solve it now
[03:06] <yit4s> mimi: yeah one more thing. i need to get my ubuntu boots faster
[03:06] <bazhang> sbansal, from the terminal
[03:07] <tmapj> can anyone tell me how to uninstall firefox
[03:07] <WanderingStar> sbansal, applications -> accessories -> terminal -> copy the command xrandr --autp
[03:07] <Mimi> Thanks arbir  !
[03:07] <usser> Fishscene, right i just ran it myself weird
[03:07] <LeetSweden> aha, ok!.. I useually install KDE after the installwith ubuntu^^
[03:07] <WanderingStar> sbansal, applications -> accessories -> terminal -> copy the command xrandr --auto
[03:07] <Fishscene> usser: lol. :P
[03:07] <usser> Fishscene, oh well do sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:07] <yit4s> mimi: some guy said yesterday that ubuntu dont normally takes alot of time to boot
[03:07] <usser> Fishscene, find Device section
[03:07] <bazhang> tmapj, you want ff2?
[03:07] <arbir> Mimi: u are welcome.. just ping me if u need to talk to me... i am looking at something else to solve this key prob
[03:07] <tmapj> yes
[03:07] <SeaPhor> nick_, have you tried not using wine, but using Cedega, has worked with everything i have wanted to play
[03:07] <bazhang> tmapj, then install it
[03:07] <DrMitch> anyone know why i can't make it so that sudo NEVER asks for a password? i do $ sudo visudo ... add a line: "%sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL" AND "user ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL" then save changes, but 5 minutes later, i have to enter the pw again :-(
[03:07] <sbansal> It doesnot give me any message
[03:08] <usser> Fishscene, found it?
[03:08] <Fishscene> just a sec
[03:08] <sbansal> thus it runs sucessfully
[03:08] <tmapj> but I need to uninstall ff3 for technical reasons
[03:08] <bazhang> DrMitch, that is very unwise security-wise
[03:08] <Mimi> yit4s,  how long does yours take to load?  mine takes about 30 seconds. You have to remember though, since you are using Wubi (that is, you installed Ubuntu like it was a windows program, just to test it before doing a real  Ubuntu install) because of that, it will run a litle slower.
[03:08] <Fishscene> found it.
[03:08] <DrMitch> bazhang, i know and don't care
[03:08] <usser> Fishscene, add this line	Driver		"intel" right after 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[03:08] <DrMitch> it's my home computer
[03:08] <bpat1434> Daisuke_Ido: any ideas?
[03:09] <bazhang> DrMitch, you want to run as root? on irc? ;]
[03:09] <Fishscene> Done
[03:09] <DrMitch> i don't sudo xchat
[03:09] <SeaPhor> tmapj, put the person you are talking to in the conversation
[03:09] <Fishscene> Let me modify my X11 now.
[03:09] <sbansal> WanderingStar : What should i do next??
[03:09] <DrMitch> i just sudo aptitude and shit
[03:09] <usser> Fishscene, modify?
[03:09] <bazhang> DrMitch, language please
[03:09] <WanderingStar> sbansal, what happend when you ran that, was there any output?
[03:09] <yit4s> mimi: yeah i do think that wubi is the cause. hmmm i guess it's about 50 secs or so
[03:09] <sbansal> no, there was no output
[03:09] <Fishscene> I edited the text dump =\
[03:09] <yit4s> mimi: but definitely longer than my XP to boot
[03:09] <Coder8> bazhang: appdb lists hardy, but with a different version of wine
[03:10] <Streett> Anyone in here Running on a Dell Machine?
[03:10] <dutch> hey all. after recently rebooting, gstreamer apps dont seem to be able to make any sound. the system makes its sounds, and mplayer can too, but totem and rythnbox are silent. any ideas as to why?
[03:10] <bazhang> Coder8, you want to try that version then?
[03:10] <sbansal> WanderingStar : no, there was no output
[03:10] <zChris> Im trying to mount a NFS share, but since i need to do it as root i dont have permission to write to the folder i mounting, Any Suggestions?
[03:10] <yit4s> mimi: i'm using Intel Celeron 2 Ghz with 512MB ram
[03:10] <usser> Fishscene, oh lol
[03:10] <Streett> I am comparable to..
[03:10] <WanderingStar> sbansal, since its a dell try hitting fn+f8 a couple of times, see if cycles to the tv..
[03:10] <bazhang> Streett, what is your issue
[03:10] <Streett> Help me run through these config for sound..
[03:11] <Fishscene> ok! Done :D
[03:11] <Mimi> yit4s,  Yeah, to make it easier for people to *try* Ubuntu before they decide if they want to stick with it, Wubi lets you install Ubuntu in a *fake* partition, so it's a bit slower than it would be if you installed Ubuntu *for real*
[03:11] <Coder8> bazhang: well, I'd rather stick to packages available through synaptic, but I guess I could try the latest from winehq
[03:11] <Streett> When I go to a Video Platform No Sound through the Headset
[03:11] <usser> Fishscene, other than that your config looks fine and pretty standard,
[03:11] <bazhang> Coder8, good point
[03:11] <keisangi> hi there.. how do you call the part of linux which isn't graphical ? "root terminal" ? i would like to change "root terminal" keyboard layout, someone can help ?
[03:11] <usser> Fishscene, what program complains about 3d support btw?
[03:11] <Streett> Want to check config to see if they are correct
[03:11] <Fishscene> EVE-Online Linux Version
[03:12] <Starnestommy> keisangi: it's just called a terminal or a console.
[03:12] <keisangi> Starnestommy, thanks
[03:12] <keisangi> Starnestommy, any idea how to change console keymap ?
[03:12] <which123> for Mldonkey,Where can i find the downloaded files?There's nothing in ~/.mldonkey/incoming
[03:12] <Mimi> yit4s,  play around with ubuntu for a while, if you decide you really like it, and want to install it as a real operating system, you should do that (you can ask here :) )  and then it will be much faster.
[03:12] <RoAkSoAx> keisangi, root terminal or console while refer to the console of the user root
[03:12] <arbir> Mimi: i solved it
[03:12] <Mimi> arbir,  :O do tell
[03:12] <dutch> hey, would anyone mind helping me get sound working with gstreamer apps? :)
[03:12] <arbir> yeah its easy
[03:12] <yit4s> mimi: i have default partition (C and D drives). D drive is empty so i installed ubuntu on that drive, instead of C, which the XP default drive
[03:12] <Streett> Crimsun istalled AsoundConf Set Default Card
[03:13] <Fishscene> usser: I'm going to restart X and see what happens. Anything else?
[03:13] <keisangi> RoAkSoAx, ok thanks.. how can i change console keymap ?
[03:13] <arbir> Mimi: goto System - > preferences - keyboard
[03:13] <Starnestommy> keisangi: I'm not sure
[03:13] <usser> Fishscene, hm... nope thats it, try to restart it
[03:13] <arbir> Mimi: click on layouts tab
[03:13] <bpat1434> Daisuke_Ido: figured it out in #awn....
[03:13] <arbir> Mimi: then goto layout options
[03:13] <WanderingStar> sbansal, it might not actually be working in hardy - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/178505
[03:13] <Coder8> will just removing pulseaudio break anything major?
[03:13] <esotericism1> evening
[03:13] <yit4s> mimi: i got everything to work on my ubuntu! webcam, printer, wireless etc.
[03:13] <Streett>  Want to Go to Sound to Conifg
[03:13] <arbir> Mimi: alt/win key behaviour
[03:14] <darkcrab> is there a shockwave plugin for ubuntu
[03:14] <esotericism1> anyone know of an application that monitors a folder and subfolders along with files for changes then uploades them?
[03:14] <emma> congrats yit4s
[03:14] <arbir> Mimi: chose Meta is mapped to win-keys..... and then now try to redefine ur windows keys
[03:14] <Mimi> yit4s,  wooooowww conider yourself lucky =^_^=
[03:14] <bazhang> darkcrab, nay
[03:14] <emma> I'm thinking about doing my install to Hardy now also.
[03:14] <esotericism1> WinSCP has this function, but I switched my laptop to ubuntu so don't really want to use WinSCP on WINE
[03:14] <esotericism1> anyone?
[03:14] <Mimi> Oh my! You're a genious arbir  !  really cool!
[03:15] <Streett>  Anyone want to help with Config of Sound.. I am on a Dell Machine 512
[03:15] <Coder8> it seems pulseaudio causes quite a few audio problems, why can't I just use alsa directly?
[03:15] <usser> Fishscene, u here?
[03:15] <zChris> Im trying to mount a NFS share, but since i need to do it as root i dont have permission to write to the folder i mounting, Any Suggestions?
[03:15] <arbir> esotericism1: get Filezilla it was sftp and scp
[03:15] <arbir> esotericism1: or you can use scp from command line
[03:15] <Mimi> Coder7,  you can, go to system>preferernces>sound   pick alsa for all of them
[03:15] <esotericism1> zChris: use sudo -i
[03:15] <Dr_willis> esotericism1,  proberly a dozen ways to do it.. I tink theres a 'fuse' fileystem  that can do that.  also i recall a 'FAM' deamon that monitored changes
[03:15] <WanderingStar> esotericism1, ifolder?
[03:15] <Streett>  PulseAudio is Killed
[03:15] <yit4s> mimi: haha thanks... i'm surprised that everything on my laptop work very well in ubuntu
[03:15] <Ashfire908> How do I get Evolution to reload the list of folders on an IMAP server?
[03:15] <RoAkSoAx> keisangi, let me search
[03:15] <esotericism1> arbir: but Filezilla doesn't watch folders for changes
[03:15] <arbir> Mimi: i am no hero.. just an imposter who is fumbling his way around linux desktop
[03:15] <Mimi> ^_^;;
[03:15] <Streett>  Making Me Jealous Mimi
[03:16] <arbir> esotericism1: hmmm.. i missed that line of urs
[03:16] <zChris> esotericism1: ill give it a try
[03:16] <yit4s> mimi: last time i installed linux was on 2001 and it was a disaster. i cant even get my sound to work
[03:16] <esotericism1> arbir:  its cool
[03:16] <shivali_> WanderingStar: Do you have any other solution to my problem
[03:16] <arbir> Mimi: somehow, i cannot bind Windows + E. when i do that.. my compiz does something to my desktop
[03:16] <esotericism1> zChris: just type sudo -i then your password and  you will get root shell
[03:16] <SeaPhor> i'm with arbir
[03:16] <shivali_> I would really appreciate if someone could help me?
[03:16] <Mimi> yit4s,  yeaahh.... back then it was so nasty....
[03:16] <RoAkSoAx> keisangi, try doing sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[03:16] <arbir> esotericism1:  use nautilus.. for scp
[03:16] <bazhang> arbir, you need to disable that compiz keybinding then
[03:16] <Mimi> arbir,   does it show all 4 desktops when you hit win + e ?
[03:16] <Mimi> ;p
[03:17] <WanderingStar> shivali_, sorry, I don't -- I have nvidia here so its a little different - xrandr should work on intel chips, but apparently not so much :)
[03:17] <keisangi> RoAkSoAx, i've found /etc/defaults/console-setup
[03:17] <arbir> Mimi: i work with only one work space.... so my window just sinks in with a big border around it
[03:17] <keisangi> thanks for the help
[03:17] <yit4s> mimi: but still can i at least improve my startup time?
[03:17] <Mimi> arbir,  oh yeah, that.
[03:17] <shivali_> Thanks for your help!!!!!
[03:17] <bbyever> where can i get the ubotu source code?
[03:17] <zChris> esotericism1: yeah but the thing is that i want to mount that nfs shares as user and not as root
[03:17] <arbir> esotericism1: Places -> connect to server and you can specify scp
[03:17] <bazhang> arbir, that is the scale plugin iirc
[03:17] <yit4s> mimi: like get rid those unwanted startup programs or something
[03:17] <Intelligitimate> I am having trouble getting the Adobe Flash Player working, keep getting the md5 failure on 6.0.6.
[03:17] <Mimi> arbir,  i dont actually think any of my Keyboard Shortcuts work, now that i think of it! i think I might have them all set up in compiz?  NEVER! :P
[03:18] <zChris> arbir: i couldnt find scp there
[03:18] <esotericism1> if the owner owns it then mount as the owner
[03:18] <Mimi> well yit4s  you've only been using it for a couple days, no?  I found this guide http://www.ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/04/tweak-and-optimize-ubuntu-linux-boot.html   but    your install is fresh, it shoudlnt have a lot of junk
[03:19] <Ashfire908> How do I get Evolution to refresh/reload the list of folders on an IMAP server?
[03:19] <Intelligitimate> The official Fix doesn't work...
[03:19] <arbir> zChris..... then it must be sftp.. cannot remember i used something
[03:19] <Intelligitimate> Doesn't do squat....
[03:19] <Vladimir32tl> can anyone give me some advise? i wanted to install unrar so i typed sudo apt-get install rar, and a package was installed, but i meant to write sudo apt-get install unrar, which i then did. everything worked but, what installed when i first typed sudo apt-get install rar?
[03:19] <bazhang> arbir, then go through all the keybindings and check which one-->or spend five seconds in #compiz-fusion and let them tell you
[03:19] <arbir> Vladimir32tl: nothing must have got installed as you were a normal user
[03:19] <yit4s> mimi: been about a week now. and it's been 3 days in a row without having to boot into windows
[03:19] <Fishscen1> usser: Yea, same scenario =\
[03:20] <arbir> bazhang: where can i go through the compiz key bindings ?
[03:20] <bazhang> advanced desktops effects manager arbir
[03:20] <arbir> bazhang: i am there
[03:20] <arbir> but which option there ?
[03:20] <m1ke_l> why is there no compiz settings manager in "Apperance Pref"  "Visual Effects" tab anymore?
[03:20] <huhuhuh> helou
[03:20] <Vladimir32tl> arbir: well, unrar did install properly because i can open rar files, i was just worried that maybe i installed a bad program when i first typed sudo apt-get install rar
[03:20] <Mimi> yit4s,  so what are your intentions? Did you mean to have Ubuntu become the OS you want to use? Or do you want to keep using Windows mainly, and just use Ubuntu to play around?
[03:21] <bazhang> arbir look through them all ;]
[03:21] <STSX> Can someone please point me to some online reference for the "ctrl-alt-" keystrokes, like ctrl-alt-S, ctrl-alt-R, etc?
[03:21] <you_jelek> surabaya
[03:21] <arbir> Vladimir32tl: try an sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:21] <you_jelek> olpuiopiy
[03:21] <arbir> Vladimir32tl: this should clean up any mess made
[03:21] <bbyever> Vladimir32tl:  you installed the rar archiver. you can uninstall by using sudo apt-get remove rar
[03:21] <usser> Fishscen1, take a look here http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=631647 looks like linux client doesnt support intel graphics
[03:21] <bazhang> you_jelek, english please
[03:22] <Vladimir32tl> arbir and bbyever: thanks a lot guys
[03:22] <arbir> u are welcome Vladimir32tl enjoy
[03:22] <bbyever> Vladimir32tl:  no
[03:22] <yit4s> mimi: i want to have both but i'm not sure now
[03:22] <usser> Fishscen1, you may have better luck running windows client thru wine
[03:22] <bbyever> Vladimir32tl: problem
[03:22] <arbir> bazhand which ws that irc channel for compiz ?
[03:22] <yit4s> mimi: since i get do much of the stuff on ubuntu
[03:22] <Fishscen1> usser: yea probably.
[03:23] <Fishscen1> Usser: Thank you so much for all your help :D
[03:23] <bbyever> where can i get the ubotu source code?
[03:23] <usser> Fishscen1, no problem
[03:23] <bazhang> bbyever, the bot?
[03:23] <bbyever> bazhang: yes
[03:23] <Starnestommy> bbyever: it's a supybot using a factoid plugin
[03:23] <RoAkSoAx> keisangi, install the console-data package: sudo apt-get install console-data and you will see...
[03:24] <bbyever> Starnestommy: thanks
[03:24] <RoAkSoAx> o/ bbyever
[03:24] <RoAkSoAx> bbyever, here are the factoids: http://jussi01.com/web/
[03:24] <arbir> mimi are you there ?
[03:24] <jgoo> Hey all. I've been scouring the webs looking for a solution to my problem now, since 1:20am... SSH and SCP work. I've tested them both. However sshfs, nautilus and gftp all fail. What am I doing wrong?
[03:24] <Mimi> yeah arbir
[03:24] <arbir> Mimi: do you realise you cannot just bind the super key
[03:24] <bbyever> RoAkSoAx: thanks
[03:24] <tiger_evan> what is the three different type of relation-ship between the classes ?
[03:24] <jgoo> I've killed my known_hosts in case, I've read up a few things that seemed irrelevant (sshd and sftp and some more keys stuff)
[03:24] <arbir> Mimi: you cannot make the start menu popup with the windows key
[03:25] <bazhang> tiger_evan, off topic for here
[03:25] <Mimi> arbir,  the thought didnt occur to me, beacause I  *dont* want to bind just the Windows key *shudder*
[03:25] <arbir> Mimi: it has to be a combination
[03:25] <yit4s> mimi: in that article you gave me, it said something about preload application
[03:25] <cgentry72> i just installed a .deb file, how do i uninstall it?
[03:25] <Mimi> arbir,  I think the current   for that is Ctrl + Esc?
[03:25] <jgoo> I can ssh, and scp, but nautilus, gftp and sshfs all give the same error... is this a ssh version issue? are those apps seeing something different to my ssh and scp ?
[03:25] <Odd-rationale> cgentry72: open synaptic. seach for the package and uninstall
[03:25] <adam7> cgentry72: use the package manager to remove the program -- it should have a name similar to the .deb
[03:25] <arbir> Mimi: yeah yeah thats a good old combo
[03:25] <Intelligitimate> I can't get Adobe Flash working...
[03:26] <arbir> Mimi: also , you canot configure the right windows key..
[03:26] <cgentry72> i looked there and didnt see it
[03:26] <adam7> cgentry72: if it was a .deb, it's there
[03:26] <cgentry72> adam7, nevermind i found it sorry
[03:26] <^Tech-Help^> is there a way i can disable my caps lock key in ubuntu?
[03:26] <adam7> cgentry72: no worries :)
[03:27] <Mimi> yit4s,   I think if you're going thrugh all that trouble to make it faster, you should at least do a "real" install of Ubuntu *wink* otherwise it's still gonna be slower than a real Ubuntu install , you know?
[03:27] <adam7> ^Tech-Help^: in the Keyboard preferences, you can change the behavior of the caps key to a ctrl key or something
[03:27] <emma> cgentry72, dpkg -r packagename
[03:27] <arbir> Mimi: my keys dont work, even though they have been programmed.. i think compiz is holding them tight
[03:27] <^Tech-Help^> adam7 ok thanks
[03:27] <Sergeant_Pony> bazhang: I installed WICD. thanks it's working great so far
[03:27] <cgentry72> emma, got it thanks though
[03:27] <yit4s> mimi: i guess so
[03:27] <bazhang> glad to hear it sgt
[03:27] <Mimi> arbir,  might be, but i just ran  shift  alt  up    (which is a gnome keyboard shortcut , not compiz) and it worked
[03:28] <andronicus> does kde remember window sizes and positions?
[03:28] <bazhang> andronicus, sure
[03:28] <andronicus> gnome/metacity certainly fails in that respect
[03:28] <arbir> shift + alt + up.. shows me all two of my windows tiled @ Mimi
[03:28] <yit4s> mimi: what else do i need??
[03:28] <andronicus> k i'm gonna try kubuntu
[03:28] <Odd-rationale> andronicus: look up devilspie
[03:28] <emma> andronicus, okay good luck.
[03:28] <Mimi> What do you mean, yit4s ? For what?
[03:29] <Mimi> andronicus,  or just switch to gnome Muahahaha!!!
[03:29] <yit4s> mimi: one thing is my sound. it produces nothing after some time i use ubuntu
[03:29] <andronicus> is there a xubuntu specific channel? or can i post my xubuntu questions here?
[03:29] <bazhang> post here if you wish
[03:29] <adam7> andronicus: #xubuntu, I think
[03:29] <Odd-rationale> andronicus: yes #xubuntu
[03:29] <emma> andronicus, there is a #xubuntu
[03:29] <yit4s> mimi: some guy said yesterday that i should disable the SPDIF something
[03:29] <andronicus> kk ty
[03:29] <Vladimir32tl> i have an hp psc 750 printer and it is set a the default printer and it prints, but sometimes it will slow down print towards the end and will halt the print so that the last 5% or so does not print out. i was printing .pdf files. may any one help me out? (using 8.04)
[03:29] <adam7> andronicus: but feel free to post here as well, I think :)
[03:29] <Fishscen1> yit4s, try closing programs if your sound stops working. I've found firefox beta 3 sometimes locks my audio
[03:30] <Odd-rationale> andronicus: if is it xfce specific, ask there...
[03:30] <matthew_> hello?
[03:30] <emma> hello.
[03:30] <matthew_> this the help channel?
[03:30] <Mimi> yit4s,  Mmmm...  What happens? Works randomly? What applications work and which do not, if that's the case?
[03:30] <yit4s> fishscen1: i think it's amarok. after i closed it, the sound stops working.
[03:30] <emma> matthew_, yes if you have a question just jump in with it.
[03:31] <matthew_> I can't get my wine window to close, how can I open something, similar to windows task manager to close it?
[03:31] <yit4s> mimi: if that happens, i just CTRL+ALT+backspace my ubuntu
[03:31] <emma> mathew -- open a terminal and type killall wine
[03:31] <Streett> I am on a Dell Machine Running 8.04
[03:31] <WanderingStar> matthew_, xkill works too
[03:31] <^Tech-Help^> hmmm adam7 making caps key the cntl key is just as annoying, im on a small keyboard (laptop) and i keep accidentally hitting caps button
[03:31] <Streett> Been trying to Config Sound
[03:31] <^Tech-Help^> is there a way to completely disable it?
[03:31] <Fishscen1> yit4s, if it happens, run "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart"
[03:32] <matthew_> What about just a certain application, just type exp.  killall firefox or does it only work for some stuff?
[03:32] <emma> matthew_, let me know if that works please.
[03:32] <Mimi> eek, nasty. yit4s   could you go to  Preferences>Sound and tell me what it's setup to? Is it pulseaudio? If so, can you hit the Test button on all to see if they will make a sound? Though its odd amarok does that
[03:32] <Streett> Can Someone Please Assist?
[03:32] <Mimi> !ask | Streett
[03:32] <Mimi> !patience
[03:32] <adam7> ^Tech-Help^: probaly - I don't know how though :(
[03:32] <mneptok> Streett: did your Dell come with Ubuntu pre-installed?
[03:32] <emma> matthew_, if you know the right name it works. for example to shut down firefox you have to say killall firefox-bin
[03:32] <^Tech-Help^> ok thanks anyway :D
[03:32] <Mimi> !enter
[03:32] <matthew_> emma: wine: no process killed matthew@matthew-desktop:~$
[03:33] <emma> matthew_, okay then wine isnt' the right word
[03:33] <WanderingStar> matthew_, killall will work for most processes - if you would like a graphical way gnome-system-monitor (system->administration) works
[03:33] <Mimi> I think its wineserver
[03:33] <mneptok> matthew_: ps aux | grep wine
[03:33] <marckie> hi mimi
[03:33] <adam7> ^Tech-Help^: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=412311
[03:33] <Mimi> Hey marckie
[03:33] <m0u5e> when using apt-build how do i figure the source version of the app i would like to build?
[03:33] <emma> matthew try killall wineserver
[03:33] <Streett> Crimsn Used Asound Set Default Car in the Terminal
[03:33] <Streett> Card
[03:33] <marckie> wazzup mimi?
[03:34] <emma> matthew_, if that does not work then in terminal type: top
[03:34] <Streett> No My Dell didn't come with 8.04 I installed it myself
[03:34] <Mimi> marckie,   not much, just trying to stay awake ... lol ... How you doing? What brings you here tonight ;)
[03:34] <yit4s> mimi: my device on that sound properties is HDA Intel (Alsa Mixer)
[03:34] <yit4s> mimi: i dont realize you can turn off the nasty beep on that properties!
[03:34] <Fishscen1> m0u5e, have you tried "apt-build --help"?
[03:34] <mneptok> Streett: oh, OK. no Dell techs for you. :)
[03:34] <bazhang> !ask | marckie
[03:34] <marckie> just surfin
[03:34] <matthew_> oh wow, I just came from 7,10 to now im on 8.04 the system monitor has changed
[03:34]  * mneptok has been annoying them all night
[03:34] <m0u5e> Fishscen1: yes, info does not give me the version number
[03:34] <marckie> hardy rocks!
[03:34] <Fishscen1> oh
[03:34] <bazhang> !ot | marckie
[03:34] <Streett> When I go up to Any Video Platform.. Like YouTube..Graphics are Fine.. I can't get sound through My Headset
[03:35] <m0u5e> Fishscen1: where does apt-build fetch the source files from? ... is it the ubuntu repos (same versions as apt-get)
[03:35] <Mimi> yit4s,  Yeah, nasty beep  gives me nightmares lol   ---- not the device, but the things above it. the ones that have "Test" next to it
[03:35] <marckie> before I used to create scripts and edit config files to make my vbox run
[03:35] <arooni-mobile> d
[03:35] <Streett> USB .. I can hear the Ubuntu Theme when Plugged in
[03:35] <marckie> and usb and shared folders to work
[03:35] <marckie> rock solid indeed!
[03:35] <Streett> And When a stream is running through the Video player I can hear
[03:35] <matthew_> yeah hardy is really nice
[03:35] <emma> matthew_, if you want a GUI way to do this, then right click on the Gnome pannel and select 'add to pannel' and then select "force quit" icon
[03:35] <Fishscen1> m0u5e, I have no idea, I just know the help command :P
[03:35] <jgoo> Any ssh gurus , or someone who has the same problem, google has found 2/3 similar but unrelated issues : ssh and scp work, but nautilus / sshfs / and gftp don't make ssh connections.....
[03:36] <emma> matthew_, so were we successful already or do we still need to close the hung window?
[03:36] <Streett> It is Just when I go to YouTube, Viddler, Or Meta Cafe Or Any other platform that I am having sound issues
[03:36] <LeetSweden> what is the max of SWAP-disk size?
[03:36] <LeetSweden> in ubuntu
[03:36] <matthew_> i still have a hung window...a install window, a game that was trying to also install directx, through wine
[03:36] <bazhang> LeetSweden, whatever you choose-->I've got 6GB
[03:36] <matthew_> im gonna add that to my panel
[03:37] <emma> matthew_, cool please let me know when it is on your pannel.
[03:37] <LeetSweden> Ok... I useually got 2GB
[03:37] <Streett> Here is the last thing that Crimsun did.. Http://Paste.Ubuntu.Com/11028/
[03:37] <matthew_> emma: yeah I have "force quit" on my top panel
[03:37] <Odd-rationale> matthew_: did you try alt+f2 and type in xkill then click on the title bar of the hung window?
[03:37] <bazhang> LeetSweden, more than enough likely
[03:37] <m0u5e> Fishscen1: anyone here using apt-build? can you offer me any insight the pros to using it?
[03:37] <arooni-mobile> is there a glipper substitute for ubuntu hardy .... in gutsy it worked but it didnt like?
[03:37] <m0u5e> Fishscen1: oops not directed at you xD
[03:37] <LadyNikon> !locate
[03:37] <emma> Okay then click on it and then click on the window you want to force to quit
[03:37] <Fishscen1> No problem. lol
[03:37] <matthew_> yeah I did alt f2 , also no response
[03:38] <Streett> And   Http://paste.ubuntu.com/11030/
[03:38] <matthew_> also force quit didn't do it, ill will just have to restart maybe
[03:38] <chaosrl> could someone tell me about EnvyNG?
[03:38] <yit4s> mimi: everything works perfectly fine now
[03:38] <Mimi> !envyng
[03:38] <Odd-rationale> !envy | chaosrl
[03:38] <Mimi> yit4s,  what did you do?
[03:38] <bazhang> chaosrl, installs drivers for you
[03:38] <yit4s> mimi: not sure
[03:38] <emma> matthew_, no dont restart
[03:38] <chaosrl> do i get it directly from synaptic?
[03:39] <bazhang> yes chaosrl
[03:39] <emma> matthew_, i would like to try some other things if you don't mind.
[03:39] <chaosrl> bazhang, thanks
[03:39] <emma> matthew_,  open a terminal and type top
[03:39] <yit4s> mimi: god i should hold my books and study because i have exam tomorrow!
[03:39] <matthew_> emma: im open to new ideas, im still a ubuntu newbie sorry
[03:39] <Mimi> yit4s,  exams, poo..... ;p  well, have fun studying ^^
[03:40] <emma> matthew_, believe me I am too. No worries. :)
[03:40] <arooni-mobile> one is there a glipper substitute for ubuntu hardy .... in gutsy it worked but it doesnte exist (the thing that lets you copy & paste and remember what you pasted)
[03:40] <yit4s> mimi: bleh, i hate school
[03:40] <emma> matthew_, did you start top in the terminal?
[03:40] <matthew_> yeah, alot of stuff on there now
[03:40] <Streett> Inside of Sound Preferences Audio Conferencing > Sound Capture is Not Testing
[03:40] <emma> okay look down the right hand column to find wine or something like it.
[03:41] <emma> The column that says command.
[03:41] <RoAkSoAx> matthew_, try doing in terminal: ps faux | grep windows-app (replace windows-app with the actual name of the app)
[03:42] <matthew_> i dont see anything to do with wine there
[03:42] <Mimi> matthew_,    you can also try      ps   -ax  | grep wine
[03:43] <matthew_> sry its a lil long
[03:43] <matthew_> matthew@matthew-desktop:~$ ps   -ax  | grep wine
[03:43] <matthew_> Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
[03:43] <matthew_> 14482 pts/1    R+     0:00 grep wine
[03:43] <RoAkSoAx> matthew_, nothign with wine but do you see something related to the windows app?
[03:43] <Mimi> dont post it all here
[03:43] <Bassoon> No!
[03:43] <Bassoon> You spell little.
[03:43] <Bassoon> Not "lil"
[03:43] <Bassoon> Little.
[03:43] <Bassoon> There are two ts and an e in there.
[03:43] <yit4s> hmmm
[03:43] <emma> Mimi - I like your command a lot. What a nice way to get the PID
[03:43] <matthew_> sorry, its faster for me to type lil not little or c not see sometimes....all i see is ubuntu apps
[03:43] <matthew_> what happens if i just restart my system?
[03:43] <yit4s> can i uninstall firefox 3 and install firefox 2?
[03:44] <Mimi> matthew_,   hehe      make sur eyou type the   hiffen, not copy paste...  type the command
[03:44] <Bassoon> Faster is no reason to sound stupider.
[03:44] <yit4s> i just hate software in beta version
[03:44] <emma> Mimi -- I always tried to get the PID from top. I don't see why a person would use top to get the PID when your way works so nicely.
[03:44] <Mimi> emma,  yeah I got sicking of tunning top ;p
[03:44] <RoAkSoAx> matthew_, you can do that too
[03:44] <RoAkSoAx> emma, is easier by doing ps ax | grep something
[03:44] <matthew_> restarting wont damage anything?
[03:45] <emma> RoAkSoAx, without the hyphen?
[03:45] <RoAkSoAx> matthew_, i don't think so
[03:45] <Mimi> matthew_,    please try this:   wineboot
[03:45] <RoAkSoAx> emma, yeah without it
[03:45] <plague27> Hi guys, I am new and have a quick question
[03:45] <plague27> involving vmware fusion
[03:45] <Mimi> !ask | plague27  go ahead and ask :
[03:45] <Mimi> !enter | plague27
[03:46] <chaosrl> envyNG doesn't really work with my computer, but can anyone help me with getting compiz fusion to work? when i try to "enable desktop settings" it says "can not enable desktop effects"
[03:46] <matthew_> says, preloader, warning failed to reserve range...a few times
[03:46] <Mimi> matthew_,   thats okay.
[03:46] <emma> RoAkSoAx, I don't see a difference in the outupt betwen ax and -ax
[03:46] <plague27> How do I get nvidia driver support working under macbook pro vmware fusion installs?
[03:46] <matthew_> i think ill just restart...
[03:46] <Mimi> matthew_,  did   wineboot  kill the wine application you were running?
[03:47] <Mimi> Okay
[03:47] <RoAkSoAx> emma, but when you use it this appears: Warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'? See http://procps.sf.net/faq.html
[03:47] <emma> plague27, are you sure that's an Ubuntu question?
[03:47] <matthew_> no, its still open
[03:47] <mneptok> matthew_: ps aux | grep wine
[03:47] <Dr_willis> ps dosent need a - befor its arguments these days
[03:47] <mneptok> (in a terminal)
[03:47] <Mimi> RoAkSoAx,  I think he copy/pasted, he should have typed it out  so that  it uses the correct   -  symbol
[03:47] <emma> RoAkSoAx, is that something different in Hardy? Both ways work for me.
[03:47] <mneptok> matthew_: pastebin the output
[03:47] <plague27> no, I am not, but I would preferrably like to have a native macbook pro install of ubuntu, anyone familiar with it?
[03:47] <Mimi> really Dr_Will? I didnt know, than ks for the tip ^_^
[03:48] <Mimi> plague27,  is that a cute white laptop with a bitten apple on the backside?
[03:48] <Mimi> jk :)
[03:48] <hotmonkeyluv> !envy
[03:48] <RoAkSoAx> matthew_, ps ax | grep word (for example)
[03:48] <plague27> no, its silver :P
[03:48] <kindofabuzz> envy works fine
[03:48] <eisenhower> To note , the  anser to install java 6 on hardy heron. Solution: make shift work arround but no real solution
[03:48] <mneptok> *sigh*
[03:48]  * Mimi pats mneptok  on the back
[03:49] <Barr2> Greetings. I'm trying to configure ThinkFinger on a T43, but now I'm being told my name is no longer in the sudoers file when I try to do anything. Any ideas?
[03:49] <emma> matthew_, mneptok would like you to pastebin the output.
[03:49] <m0u5e> so anyone know anything about apt-build?
[03:49]  * mneptok already asked for this like 30m ago
[03:49] <matthew_> output of ps ax - grep wine?
[03:49] <mneptok> matthew_: ps aux | grep wine
[03:49] <mneptok> (in a terminal)
[03:49] <mneptok> matthew_: pastebin the output
[03:49] <Mimi> plague27,
[03:49] <matthew_> k 1 min
[03:50] <Mimi> gah!!!
[03:50] <plague27> yes?
[03:50] <emma> matthew_, you need that pipe in there.
[03:50] <Mimi> plague27,   https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[03:50] <Mimi> Sorry, my copy paste is ifffy :p
[03:50] <tanath> can someone help me get pulseaudio working?
[03:50] <tanath> when i try to use it, i get no sound
[03:51] <Zaiden> Hello
[03:51] <emma> It's ps ax | grep wine  not ps ax - grep wine
[03:51] <mneptok> emma: it's "ps aux | grep wine"
[03:51] <matthew_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11217/
[03:51] <tanath> alsa works, but PA would be an improvement if it worked...
[03:51] <mneptok> emma: please stop repeating commands i have given and typo'ing them
[03:51] <emma> I'm not.
[03:51] <plague27> Mimi, I tried that guide once and ended up killing my entire hard drive
[03:51] <chris062689> Hello my fellow Ubuntuians!
[03:52] <mneptok> emma: i suggest you look again
[03:52] <Odd-rationale> chris062689: hi
[03:52] <emma> No.
[03:52] <mneptok> ps aux | grep wine
[03:52] <matthew_> also
[03:52] <matthew_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11218/
[03:52] <mneptok> PEE ESS AY YOU EKS
[03:52] <mneptok> not ps ax
[03:52] <tanath> y'know, instead of ps, you could use the gnome system monitor
[03:53] <mneptok> matthew_: sudo kill -9 14487
[03:53] <matthew_> i tryed the system monitor, didnt close it
[03:53] <Odd-rationale> lol, so many ways to skin a cat...
[03:53] <Mimi> mneptok,   both of them give us what we need which is the pid
[03:53] <Mimi> yeah but people need to stick to their guns uh ;p
[03:53] <Boohbah> tanath: no you couldn't
[03:53] <matthew_> sudo kill -9 14487 did not seem to do anything
[03:53] <matthew_> brb, im just gonna restart now
[03:53] <Boohbah> tanath: it doesn't produce output that can be piped to grep
[03:54] <binarymutant> how can I get xmms2 to play streams, I tried xmms2 add stream.pls but it didn't work
[03:54] <tanath> Boohbah, you wouldn't need grep. you'd be able to see it in the list
[03:54] <Mimi>  /facepalm
[03:54] <Fishscen1> LOL Mimi
[03:54] <Mimi> Fail. Epic Fail.
[03:54] <Odd-rationale> Boohbah: there is a search function...
[03:54] <Mimi> GUI? What's a GUI? I can push buttons? nowai!! ^_^;;;;
[03:55] <secret901> I'm trying to output video from my laptop to my TV screen.  When I login to Ubuntu, the logon screen is displayed on the TV, but when I'm logged in, I can't see anything on the TV
[03:55] <Boohbah> we must stop this rampant GUIfication!
[03:55] <Fishscen1> lol
[03:55] <paulcross> How to find some words in some files located in a folder.
[03:55] <tanath> heh
[03:55] <Dr_willis> paulcross,  grep is normally used for such a task.
[03:55] <secret901> anyone know how to set up Ubuntu so that I can output video to TV?
[03:55] <Boohbah> paulcross: not with a GUI :)
[03:55] <Dr_willis> !tvout | secret901
[03:55] <spork969> why won't songjuicer extract from my cd in mp3 format? i have the profile enabled and i can play mp3s
[03:56] <tanath> paulcross, tracker search, or beagle search. tracker is default.
[03:56] <Dr_willis> secret901,  depends on your video card/chipset to a large degree.
[03:56] <Mimi> paulcross,   hit the magnifying glass  icon
[03:56] <Mimi> holy bunny of GUI's
[03:56] <plik> spork969: got lame?
[03:56] <Dazedit-laptop> I installed and turned on the pripority nvidia drivers by my resolution is stuck on 640x480
[03:56] <tanath> paulcross, Apps > Accessories > Search
[03:56] <spork969> plik, i believe so.
[03:56] <spork969> plik, what packages should i look for?
[03:56] <Ashfire908> How do I get Evolution to refresh/reload the list of folders on an IMAP server?
[03:56] <Mimi> Why complicate it ? just click the effbunny magnifing g,lass  on your file manageer,, sheesh
[03:56] <plik> lame and ermm.... that should do it
[03:56] <secret901> Dr_willis: what the heck? I still have to manually edit the conf file in this day and age in Ubuntu???
[03:57] <Krimson> Does anyone know how to change an iPod's association so that Amarok will run when the iPod is plugged in, as opposed to Rhthym box?
[03:57] <paulcross> Boohbah, If I use the command line.which command should I use?
[03:57] <plik> spo you probably need to tell soundjuicer to use it
[03:57] <Dr_willis> secret901,  no idea. i dont have to woth my nvidia cards.. :) i use the nvidia setting tools.. ati has similer tools..   it DEPENDS on your exact chipset/card/
[03:57] <plague27> is there problems with installing 8.04 natively on a macbook pro?
[03:57] <tanath> Mimi, that generally doesn't search _within_ files
[03:58] <spork969> plik, how would i tell soundjuicer to do that? also, is lame-extras reccomended?
[03:58] <Mimi> paulcross,      ls -a  /home/paulcross  | grep  WhatYoureLookingFor
[03:58] <Mimi> OH
[03:58] <secret901> Dr_willis: my card is an Intel accelerator card
[03:58] <Doobe08> hey everyone, would anyone be abe to help me with new ubuntu install, wifi does not work, have WPA with TKIP encryption...any ideas why it wont connect?   maybe driver?
[03:58] <paulcross> tanath, In order to run fater.I already shut the tracker off.
[03:58] <Mimi> WITHIN files. OOPSY my bad :P :P :P
[03:58] <tanath> paulcross, fater?
[03:58] <plik> spork969: you probably need to tell soundjuicer to use it - somewhere in the config - not sure exactly as I don't use soundjuicer
[03:58] <Dr_willis> secret901,  i got no idea on intel cards. I dont have a single machine  with one. sorry cant help.
[03:58] <paulcross> tanath, faster
[03:58] <Krimson> I have checked under system > preferences > removable drives and media, but I do not see a multimedia tab.
[03:58] <spork969> plik, what do you use to extract audio from cds?
[03:58] <Mimi> tanath,  I thought he meant, "the word is part of the file name", not  "the word is INSIDE the file name" my mistake ^_^;;
[03:58] <Gohalien> Any step by step guide to install vmware server in ubuntu 8.04 ?
[03:58] <tanath> paulcross, well, you should see the search thing at Places > Search too
[03:58] <tanath> paulcross, um..
[03:58] <thomas__> Dr. Willis, do you live in Jette Meadows?
[03:58] <Ashfire908> nvm at last question
[03:59] <plik> spork969: no idea whats in lame-extras, but if you're not short on space it can't hurt
[03:59] <Krimson> Doobe08: You need to awaken your AP association.
[03:59] <binarymutant> how can I get xmms2 addpls <file> to work with streams?
[03:59] <tanath> paulcross, you can change the settings to use less cpu & index slower...
[03:59] <spork969> plik, what do you use to extract audio from cds?
[03:59] <randal> hi for some reson when i turn the 3d cube thing on when ever i try use it it goes werid
[03:59] <Krimson> amenado: Are you there bud?
[03:59] <xcorpitx> hi abuntu :)
[03:59] <tanath> binarymutant, why not use mplayer or something?
[04:00] <tanath> binarymutant, 'mplayer $url'
[04:00] <Doobe08> Krimson: have a link with a tut or anything? or is it a simple command?
[04:00] <Ashfire908> how do i get apport to run through and report all the unreported stuff?
[04:00] <paulcross> tanath, I dont know how to do that. Right now I am trying the "grep' command. hope it work
[04:00] <Mimi> spork969,    have you tried Sound Converter   found in   applications> sound and video
[04:00] <plik> spork969: abcde on linux / bsd   or EAC / LAME on windows
[04:00] <secret901> anyone know why I can get the video to output to TV on the login screen but not when I'm logged in?
[04:00] <randal> hi for some reson when i turn the 3d cube thing on when ever i try use it it goes werid
[04:00] <Mimi> randal,    #compiz
[04:00] <Krimson> Doobe08: It's a command. Amenado is the man to speak to concerning that. He seems to be AFK, so try googling it.
[04:00] <vfronda> E: msttcorefonts: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:00] <plik> spork969: abcdee is command line not GUI
[04:00] <cupid> iub890u098u098
[04:01] <vfronda> whats with this error message E: msttcorefonts: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:01] <SlimThug875> what is "terminal server client"??
[04:01] <spork969> plik, oh
[04:01] <Mimi> vfronda,   http://www.google.com/search?q=+msttcorefonts%3A+subprocess+post-installation+script+returned+error+exit+status+1&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a
[04:01] <plague27> is there problems with installing 8.04 natively on a macbook pro?
[04:01] <SlimThug875> what is "terminal server client"??
[04:02] <SlimThug875> how do i use it?
[04:02] <SlimThug875> anyone have answers?
[04:02] <Mimi> SlimThug875,    i think it allows you to login to a remote console (the black window )
[04:02] <plague27> Does anyone know how to properly setup refit so that 8.04 does not crash on a triple boot with a macbook pro?
[04:02] <andronicus> ok I'm back and I seem to have gotten compiz to work! hooray!
[04:02] <tanath> paulcross, run tracker-preferences
[04:02] <Doobe08> ok, thanks Krimson
[04:02] <spork969> is it possible that a cd won't let you extract in mp3 format?
[04:02] <Mimi> I have answers, but usually the answers make me think of more questions SlimThug875    (just teasing :) )
[04:02] <Odd-rationale> andronicus: good!
[04:02] <Mimi> !enter
[04:02] <Krimson> Doobe08: Not a problem. Sorry I couldn't be more help.
[04:02] <SlimThug875> how do i use it?
[04:03] <plik> spork969: it's usual to rip to wav, then encode to mp3 (or whatever) (then delete the wav if required)
[04:03] <Mimi> SlimThug875,  do you have a computer to connect to?
[04:03] <Gohalien> Any step by step guide to install vmware server in ubuntu 8.04 ?
[04:03] <adam7> Gohalien: yeah, one second
[04:03] <binarymutant> tanath how do I get mplayer to play streams?
[04:03] <SlimThug875> what do you mean?
[04:03] <Barr2> Hello. I tried to configure ThinkFinger on a T43, and now it tells me I'm not in the sudoers file. How do I make this all work again?
[04:03] <Gohalien> ^^ thanks adam7
[04:03] <spork969> plik, sounds like a lot of effort, i was hoping there would be a simple way considering i have to import about 30 cds
[04:03] <Doobe08> Krimson:  I found it, i will give it a try, thanks for pointing me in the right direction
[04:03] <plik> spork969: if you're having probs with mp3,., try one of the free open formats like ogg or FLAC
[04:03] <SlimThug875> can it be any comp?
[04:03] <adam7> Gohalien: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=779934 <--- I'm working on it right now - I did get Vmware to start :)
[04:03] <Mimi> SlimThug875,  for example, say you need to connect to MY computer from YOUR computer, you would use THAT application.
[04:03] <Krimson> Doobe08, where is it?
[04:04] <Krimson> (I'm having similar problems)
[04:04] <Gohalien> adam7, thanks !
[04:04] <SlimThug875> how?
[04:04] <tanath> binarymutant, just run 'mplayer $url' in terminal, where $url is the address of the stream
[04:04] <spork969> plik, ipod only plays mp3
[04:04] <Mimi> SlimThug875,  what are you trying to do? if you can be more specific maybe we can help
[04:04] <plik> spork969: it is simple - once you set the dir structurethe ripper (abcde) take care of the rest
[04:04] <Starnestommy> SlimThug875: I think it has to be one that is running VNC or RDP
[04:04] <Doobe08> Krimson:  not sure if this is the right thing but sounds like my problem, here is the link -> http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-wpa-wireless-access-point-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[04:04] <Krimson> Thanks a lot Doobe08.
[04:04] <secret901> are there anywhere in Ubuntu to set my video output preferences besides "Screen Resolution"?
[04:05] <geekkitt> does anyone know of a good link that details how to trick windoze XP into installing on a drive that is not the master? it wants to diddle the master drive (and install its MBR) but that's the drive that my ubuntu 7.10 OS is on and i don't want XP to bugger that.
[04:05] <Doobe08> No prob Krim
[04:05] <SlimThug875> can it be a comp running win xp??
[04:05] <Mimi> yes it can SlimThug875
[04:05] <tanath> secret901, run 'gksu displayconfig-gtk'
[04:05] <plik> spork969: if you're serious about a good collection that you don't want to rip again when technology gets better rip to FLAC (lossless) and then encode to mp3 after
[04:05] <i-hope-this-name> plik: i'd reccomend grip for ripping cds
[04:05] <Odd-rationale> geekkitt: /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[04:05] <joetheodd> spork969, it also plays apple lossless, but I doubt he'd have any easier time with that.
[04:05] <SlimThug875> what information do i need from the computer i want to connect to?
[04:05] <plik> spork969: see hydrogenaudio.org for good info
[04:05] <Odd-rationale> SlimThug875: the ip address.
[04:05] <SlimThug875> thats it?
[04:05] <Odd-rationale> SlimThug875: and a username on that machine
[04:05] <SlimThug875> ok
[04:05] <spork969> joetheodd, that's m4a, right?
[04:06] <SlimThug875> what can i do once i am connected?
[04:06] <geekkitt> Odd-rationale: ?? dual boot not xorg
[04:06] <binarymutant> can mpd play streams and pls/m3u/etc?
[04:06] <joetheodd> spork969, i believe so.
[04:06] <Mimi> SlimThug875,     http://www.watchingthenet.com/how-to-connect-to-a-windows-terminal-server-from-ubuntu.html    (scroll down)
[04:06] <plik> i-hope-this-name: I'll give that a whirl if I ever need a gui to rip (unlikely) but cheers
[04:06] <SlimThug875> ok
[04:06] <spork969> joetheodd, i can rip to that... maybe that will work
[04:06] <Mimi> SlimThug875,  you can whatever the bunny you want
[04:06] <secret901> tanath: thanks
[04:06] <tanath> secret901, np
[04:06] <i-hope-this-name> plik: ah-ha, a terminal user. rock on
[04:06] <plik> :)
[04:06] <Ashfire908> how do i get apport to run through and report all the unreported stuff?
[04:06] <secret901> tanath: is there a way to enable the secondary screen from that window?
[04:06] <SlimThug875> lol ok
[04:06] <Odd-rationale> geekkitt: oh sorry, wrong nick...
[04:06] <Gohalien> adam7, can you recomend me any good multithread downloader for ubuntu ?
[04:07] <geekkitt> Odd-rationale: sokay :)
[04:07] <tanath> secret901, yep. i haven't used it, but it's there
[04:07] <adam7> Gohalien: if you're using Firefox, downthemall works well
[04:07] <SlimThug875> would i need the password to the user login name?
[04:07] <Mimi> SlimThug875,  read that link please
[04:07] <Odd-rationale> SlimThug875: yes
[04:07] <Gohalien> Thanks
[04:07] <Mimi> im so installing  it on my boyfriends computer so i can spy on him
[04:07] <Mimi> jk!!
[04:07] <tanath> Gohalien, and if you're looking for a standalone one, you might look at d4x
[04:07] <andronicus> can i get xubuntu to remember window positions on my second monitor?
[04:07] <joetheodd> spork969, m4a is actually the same as mp4, which is just an extension to mp3, according to wikipedia
[04:08] <secret901> tanath: I can only either set it as the default screen or disabled
[04:08] <Gohalien> thanks tanath
[04:08] <adam7> if you install all the gstreamer plugins, you can play anything
[04:08] <spork969> joetheodd, mp4 is video...
[04:08] <bazhang> andronicus, why the worry about window position
[04:08] <Krimson> How do I comment out something?
[04:08] <joetheodd> spork969, or maybe not, I get easily confused :P
[04:08] <Krimson> In gedit
[04:08] <bazhang> Krimson, with a #
[04:08] <tanath> secret901, then chances are you need to make sure you have the right video driver. it can help you with that too. there's a handy test button as well
[04:08] <adam7> Krimson: depends on the language/file
[04:08] <Starnestommy> Krimson: put a # at the begining of a line
[04:08] <Mimi> Krimson,   remove the    #   symbol
[04:08] <scribawf> Whats gud to burn avi to dvd?
[04:08] <Mimi> guys he said  comment OUT
[04:08] <andronicus> i don't like having to move windows over to my second monitor every time they are opened, e.g. firefox
[04:08] <secret901> tanath: I know it's possible to output the video to TV, but dunno how.  when I'm in the login screen it's output to TV but when I'm logged in it's not
[04:08] <bazhang> mimi you mean add ;]
[04:08] <Mimi> no?
[04:09] <Mimi> oopsy
[04:09] <joetheodd> spork969, apparently the container format m4a can contain Apple Lossless, but I'm not sure if ripping to m4a is necessarily going to be Apple Lossless, if you follow
[04:09] <adam7> Mimi: comment out is adding a #
[04:09] <andronicus> is this not possible on xubuntu as well?
[04:09] <i-hope-this-name> if i install 8.04 onto a broken 7.04/7.10 install on / ( /home is on a seperate disk), what will i lose? will it format and install fresh, or upgrade?
[04:09] <Krimson> Can I do like #<comment># to block off a comment? Or do I do #<comment>/#?
[04:09] <Krimson> Or something?
[04:09] <Odd-rationale> Mimi: you must be getting sleepy... ;)
[04:09] <sonic_> voltei
[04:09] <tanath> scribawf, devede
[04:09] <joetheodd> spork969, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Lossless and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4A
[04:09] <bazhang> Krimson, before the line
[04:09] <sonic_> demorei mais voltei
[04:09] <i-hope-this-name> Mimi: it's kinda hard to comment _in_
[04:09] <Mimi> arg i was thinking 'comment' would be 'add #'    and 'comment out'/'remove a comment' would be 'remove a $'
[04:09] <adam7> Krimson: you should just need a single # at the beginning of each line
[04:09] <Squa7ch> could someone help me get compiz working with my laptop, ATI Mobility Radeon 7500?
[04:09] <Flannel> i-hope-this-name: It will install fresh, yes.  And since home is separate, you wont lose anything there.
[04:09] <bazhang> !fr | sonic_
[04:09] <Mimi> Odd-rationale,  tell me about itlol
[04:09] <i-hope-this-name> Flannel: but i'll have to reinstall all my apps?
[04:09] <Krimson> Ok, thanks
[04:09] <tanath> secret901, i have no experience with that. sorry
[04:10] <plik> Krimson: depends on the config file usually # to end of line
[04:10] <scribawf> tanath - devede? is that c orrect?
[04:10] <Odd-rationale> i-hope-this-name: yes.
[04:10] <yit4s> what is wine?
[04:10] <Krimson> plik: It's a gedit
[04:10] <Odd-rationale> !wine | yit4s
[04:10] <spork969> joetheodd, yeah i get it. thats why im trying grip. m4p is protected version of m4a which is apples propeitary audio format, based off mp3
[04:10] <Flannel> i-hope-this-name: Yes
[04:10] <bazhang> way to run games and such yit4s
[04:10] <Mimi> I'm going to bed,  good night all
[04:10] <tanath> scribawf, yep. you can find it in add/remove, or synaptic, or install it via terminal
[04:10] <Krimson> yit4s: Drink made from grapes and sometimes honey. =D
[04:10] <SlimThug875> does the comp you want to connect too have to have tsc?
[04:10] <Ashfire908> how do i get apport to run through and report all the unreported stuff?
[04:10] <sonic_> sera q o moço q tava mi ajudando ta ai ainda?
[04:10] <adam7> i-hope-this-name: you'll lose all your apps, but not your personal settings, but you will lose systemwide settings -- however, its really easy to have synaptic generate a list of packages to reinstall when you get your new system
[04:10] <yit4s> can i install it on ubuntu?
[04:10] <Krimson> Night mimi
[04:10] <Odd-rationale> yit4s: yes
[04:10] <bazhang> sonic_, english here please
[04:10] <Krimson> yit4s: Yes
[04:11] <scribawf> tanath gud 'nuf tnx much will give it a try!
[04:11] <SlimThug875> does the comp you want to connect too have to have tsc?
[04:11] <i-hope-this-name> adam7: hmm. how would i create this list?
[04:11] <Starnestommy> SlimThug875: no, but it needs an RDP or VNC server
[04:11] <yit4s> what is the difference between wine and qemu?
[04:11] <i-hope-this-name> adam7: actually, i don't think it would work. IIRC synaptic doesn't exist anymore
[04:11] <Gohalien> omg
[04:11] <i-hope-this-name> Flannel: alrightie, thanks
[04:11] <SlimThug875> whats that?
[04:11] <m0u5e> AHAHa! i figured it out
[04:11] <Odd-rationale> yit4s: wine is a compatibility layer, qemu is a virtual machine
[04:11] <Starnestommy> yit4s: wine is a compatibility layer and doesn't need you to install windows on it.  qemu requires that you install windows on it
[04:11] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, say what? i use synaptic all the time..
[04:11] <secret901> anyone know how to set up Ubuntu so that it outputs the video to tv with an Intel 945 accelerator?
[04:11] <adam7> i-hope-this-name: I hope it does, I'm using it :/
[04:11] <Odd-rationale> somthin like that...
[04:11] <Gohalien> I love it, my isp made a mistake, gave me double bandwidth !
[04:11] <m0u5e> was it emma that asked about apt-build last night?
[04:12] <adam7> i-hope-this-name: synaptic being the package manager, yes?
[04:12] <bazhang> secret901, via vga or other
[04:12] <yit4s> what do you mean by installing windows on it?
[04:12] <Krimson> Ok, how do I create a file from the terminal? Like <create command> /etc/default/wpasupplicant?
[04:12] <m0u5e> emma: anyways (if it is you) i used apt-get build-dep to build the dep *-dev files, and then checkinstalled to install
[04:12] <i-hope-this-name> tanath, adam7: i tried to upgrade from 7.04 to 7.10 using update-manager, left it on overnight and awoke to a completely broken system
[04:12] <usser> Krimson, touch
[04:12] <secret901> bazhang: s-video
[04:12] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, strange...
[04:12] <Krimson> usser: The create command is touch?
[04:12] <Starnestommy> yit4s: you have to install windows in qemu to run windows stuff.  Wine doesn't need you to install windows in it
[04:12] <i-hope-this-name> adam7: yeah, synaptic package manager
[04:13] <adam7> i-hope-this-name: oh, on *your* system synaptic doesn't exist :)
[04:13] <usser> Krimson, yep :)
[04:13] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: very strange.
[04:13] <Krimson> Thanks usser
[04:13] <Ashfire908> Am I being /ignore d or something?
[04:13] <bazhang> secret901, what have you tried--mine senses tv at startup
[04:13] <i-hope-this-name> adam7: exactly. very few apps still do.
[04:13] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, try again?
[04:13] <adam7> i-hope-this-name: anyway, it won't do you much good if the packages you want aren't installed at the moment
[04:13] <yit4s> oh
[04:13] <usser> Krimson, but it has to be prepended by sudo since /etc is system catalog
[04:13] <Krimson> usser: It says permission denied. Any suggestions?
[04:13] <secret901> bazhang: at the logon screen, it outputs to TV, but when I'm logged in it won't
[04:13] <i-hope-this-name> adam7: they /might/ be installed, but I cant get to them
[04:13] <usser> Krimson, use sudo
[04:13] <Krimson> Oh, ok. Thanks again!
[04:13] <Squa7ch> Ubuntu 8.10 ATI Mobility Radeon 7500?
[04:13] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: which part?
[04:14] <bazhang> Ashfire908, that is a tough question so many are not able to answer it most likely
[04:14] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, um, the upgrade part? :P
[04:14] <Krimson> usser: sudo touch /etc... ja?
[04:14] <adam7> i-hope-this-name: it sounds to me like you'd be best off with a fresh install and just installing the apps by hand :)
[04:14] <usser> Krimson, yes
[04:14] <musikgoat> anyone who's used lynx to grep some information from a page,  do you know of any way to do it with a logged in session?
[04:14] <adam7> i-hope-this-name: can you still boot into your system?
[04:14] <i-hope-this-name> adam7: that's what i was afraid of. now i just need to figure out how to use windows to get me an iso
[04:14] <SlimThug875> what is "RDP" or "VNC"??
[04:14] <Krimson> usser: Sudo does what? Tells it to use admin or root privileges?
[04:14] <Flannel> musikgoat: use wget
[04:14] <Starnestommy> Krimson: yes
[04:14] <secret901> bazhang: does it continue to output to TV for you after you logged in without having to do anything?
[04:15] <i-hope-this-name> adam7: well, i can get to a terminal, but gdm, login and mpd aren't working
[04:15] <tanath> !sudo
[04:15] <Starnestommy> SlimThug875: they're two protocols used for remote desktop connections
[04:15] <tanath> Krimson, ^
[04:15] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: i tried upgrading from 7.04 to 7.10 and it... didn't.
[04:15] <adam7> i-hope-this-name: well, there is an apt-get command that'll list the installed packages
[04:15] <ouellettesr> whats the name of an app fo change the resolution in gnome
[04:15] <bazhang> secret901, yes but this is via vga-->never tried with s-video
[04:15] <usser> Krimson, yes it escalates your privileges to basically god of the system
[04:15] <ouellettesr> to*
[04:15] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, heh. and did you try it again?
[04:15] <SlimThug875> do win xp usually have it or is that somthing the user needs to install??
[04:15] <musikgoat> Flannel: my desire is to find out when certain subject headings come into gmail, and to check it via a cron job... but i have to be logged in to grep any email,  suggestions?
[04:15] <i-hope-this-name> adam7: and i just pipe this to a text file or something?
[04:15] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, you can do it from a cd/dvd too if necessary
[04:15] <Krimson> usser: Lol, ok. One last question. (hopefully) What is the Open file command?
[04:16] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, with a trick or two
[04:16] <secret901> bazhang: did this work in previous versions of Ubuntu?
[04:16] <adam7> i-hope-this-name: yeah, and then you *should* be able to pipe it back into apt-get or something
[04:16] <andronicus> so, does anyone know a way for any distro of ubuntu to remember windows positions?!?!??!?!!?!?!?!?!?!!?!!?!?!?!?!
[04:16] <Flannel> musikgoat: with wget, you can do all that stuff, cookies, etc
[04:16] <usser> Krimson, as in open for editing?
[04:16] <ForzaPalermo> anyone having any trouble with envyng... cant get it to work period, i get the   File "interface.py", line 8, in <module>
[04:16] <ForzaPalermo>     from Envy import main etc etc errors
[04:16] <bazhang> ouellettesr, hardy or gutsy
[04:16] <Krimson> Yes
[04:16] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: try upgrading again? i can't, really
[04:16] <Serveck> hey, i burned the latest version (8.04) what is the easiest way to UPDATE the OS? not reformatting?
[04:16] <Odd-rationale> andronicus: did you look up devilspie?
[04:16] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, why not?
[04:16] <SlimThug875> do win xp usually have it or is that somthing the user needs to install??
[04:16] <matthew> ok im not gonna worry about wine for right now...can anyone help me to get my monitor past 1024 x 768 pixels? it does 1280 x 1024 native but it wont let me go to 1280 x 1024...
[04:16] <ouellettesr> bazhang, fiesty
[04:16] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, and, if you can boot from a disc, then yes you can
[04:16] <i-hope-this-name> adam7: and if not, i can turn it into a .sh
[04:16] <musikgoat> Flannel: i'll look more into wget then... didn't think down that route
[04:16] <bazhang> SlimThug875, xp?
[04:16] <musikgoat> Flannel: thanks
[04:16] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: gdm doesn't work
[04:16] <SlimThug875> yes
[04:16] <scribawf> What works on "udf" files?
[04:16] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, if you have an ubuntu disc that is
[04:16] <Flannel> musikgoat: its all in the man page
[04:16] <andresj> Serveck: just distro upgrade
[04:16] <adam7> i-hope-this-name: theoretically, yes
[04:16] <Serveck> how?
[04:16] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: yup, on one right now
[04:16] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, well, you can upgrade from CLI too
[04:16] <x1250> I have a nvidia 8600gt, but compiz performance is poor (seems laggy). Is there any xorg.conf option I should use with nvidia cards? (well, its not my card, a cousin's)
[04:17] <andronicus> odd-rationale: i have, but it seems to be quite evil to install, /pun
[04:17] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: oh?
[04:17] <wirechief_> matthew what does xrandr give
[04:17] <Serveck> im booted into 8.04 (off the disk)
[04:17] <usser> Krimson, just prepend the filename by the your favorite editor's name, like sudo gedit filename or sudo nano filename
[04:17] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: how would i do that?
[04:17] <Krimson> usser: Thanks - =D
[04:17] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: the ubuntu repos are slowwwww as hell right now, but it's worth a shot
[04:17] <Odd-rationale> andronicus: also i thing fluxbox has that nice functionality...
[04:17] <SlimThug875> how can i hide my IP address?!?
[04:17] <matthew> wirechief_:  xrandr in terminal ?
[04:17] <adam7> SlimThug875: from who?
[04:17] <bazhang> ouellettesr, not sure about feisty, but gutsy is sudo dpkg-configure xserver-xorg and hardy is gksudo displayconfig-gtk
[04:17] <SlimThug875> everyone
[04:17] <wirechief_> matthew use xrander -s 1024x768 or what ever you are trying
[04:17] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[04:17] <adam7> SlimThug875: on irc?
[04:17] <SlimThug875> yeah
[04:17] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, try another mirror
[04:17] <wirechief_> matthew yes
[04:17] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: ah-ha. lemmie jot that down
[04:18] <sonic_> aqui é só ingles?
[04:18] <Starnestommy> SlimThug875: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks
[04:18] <bazhang> ouellettesr, oops reconfigure
[04:18] <adam7> SlimThug875: get a cloak -- but what are you worried about?
[04:18] <sonic_> qual server brasil?
[04:18] <Odd-rationale> !es | sonic_
[04:18] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: okay, how do i switch mirrors in CLI?
[04:18] <bazhang> !br
[04:18] <andronicus> odd-rationale: does fluxbox work with compiz?
[04:18] <Odd-rationale> andronicus: no
[04:18] <ouellettesr> yeah i just need to change the rez real quick i dont want to reconfigure x
[04:18] <bazhang> sonic_, /join #ubuntu-br
[04:18] <Serveck> whats the keycombio for forquitting a program?
[04:18] <matthew> its showing max is 1024....my screen does 1280 x 1024 though..
[04:18] <wakka> kinda silly, how do i login root in the terminal
[04:18] <Odd-rationale> andronicus: it is much faster than compiz ... :)
[04:18] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, there's an app you can install to find the best mirror... lemme find it...
[04:18] <secret901> I'm trying to ouput S-video to the TV using an Intel GM 945 accelerator card.  It's able to output at the login screen but couldn't after I'm logged in.  Anyone know if Ubuntu lauches anything else for X during login?
[04:18] <scribawf> what works on "udf" files?
[04:19] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: thanks
[04:19] <Starnestommy> wakka: sudo -i, but it's not usually needed or recommended
[04:19] <i-hope-this-name> wakka: in fact, it's reccomended against
[04:19] <andronicus> odd-rationale: but is it prettier?
[04:19] <wirechief_> matthew well you may need to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  in a teminal then do the xrandr to set
[04:19] <i-hope-this-name> scribawf: IIRC there's a udf to iso converter, udf2iso, i think
[04:19] <yit4s> any recommendation on what software to use for MSN/Yahoo webcamming?
[04:19] <Odd-rationale> andronicus: umm, it *can* be...
[04:19] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, netselect-apt
[04:19] <yit4s> i used aMSN and i hate it
[04:20] <wirechief_> matthew if you dont know the answers to the questions just select default by using the return key
[04:20] <wakka> i-hope-this-name: thank you
[04:20] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: awesome, thanks
[04:20] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, so, 'sudo apt-get install netselect-apt && sudo netselect-apt' ought to do it
[04:20] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: right on.
[04:20] <scribawf> i-hope-this-name OK tnx will check it out!
[04:20] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: is there any way to log onto that install from this livecd without rebooting?
[04:20] <andronicus> odd-rationale: i believe i think I am going to reinstall ubuntu and try to get devils pie to work as it looks like it would partially alleviate my primary gripe with metacity
[04:20] <i-hope-this-name> scribawf: hang on, lemmie find the name for you
[04:21] <Odd-rationale> andronicus: ok
[04:21] <adam7> i-hope-this-name: you might be able to chroot into it
[04:21] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, yep
[04:21] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, chroot
[04:21] <scribawf> i-hope-this-name OK standing-by
[04:21] <andronicus> odd-rationale: ty for your assistance
[04:21] <Odd-rationale> andronicus: np
[04:21] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, be root though
[04:21] <i-hope-this-name> adam7, tanath: sudo chroot?
[04:22] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, use the root terminal
[04:22] <graham> is it possible for ubuntu overwrite an NTFS and format it, then install
[04:22] <graham> even when you never told it to format it..
[04:22] <tanath> graham, yes
[04:22] <adam7> i-hope-this-name: yeah, sudo chroot /path/to/install
[04:22] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: root term? sudo -i ?
[04:22] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, it's best to use the root terminal shortcut
[04:22] <adam7> i-hope-this-name: yeah, sudo -i works fine
[04:22] <graham> becuase i just TRIED to install it to my ext and swap partitions
[04:23] <graham> but it put it on my raid NTFS (i think) instead
[04:23] <graham> would it whipe out windows?
[04:23] <i-hope-this-name> adam7, tanath: excellent
[04:23] <tanath> adam7, he's looking to upgrade the system from a chroot. i've done it before. best to use the actual root terminal
[04:23] <graham> or just mess up the booting
[04:23] <Starnestommy> graham: probably both
[04:23] <adam7> tanath: what's the different? they're both root?
[04:23] <eisenhower> hey can someone tell me what i need to run to install build-essential?
[04:23] <matthew> ok, is there anything i can type into the terminal to change my resolution? I did what you said in that xserver screen
[04:23] <Starnestommy> eisenhower: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:23] <tanath> adam7, well, for instance i had some complaints about things not being mounted in /proc
[04:23] <eisenhower> ty
[04:23] <matthew> still shows 1024
[04:23] <adam7> eisenhower: sudo apt-get instlal build-essential
[04:23] <graham> wait.. if ..oh
[04:23] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install eisenhower
[04:23] <i-hope-this-name> scribawf: i lost my cheatsheet file, but i do believe its udf2iso
[04:24] <tanath> adam7, and frankly, i forget how to fix it :P
[04:24] <graham> if it installed on my NTFS that means it must have formatted it
[04:24] <adam7> tanath: that's cause you probably have to mount --bind /proc into the chrooted system's filesystem
[04:24] <wirechief_> matthew use xrandr and see if you have other resolutions available now
[04:24] <graham> that ticks me off, i never told it to.
[04:24] <tanath> adam7, something similar to that
[04:24] <scribawf> i-hope-this-name,  OK can give it a go I'll figure it out - Tnx much
[04:24] <graham> but now im in a pickle, i cant run windows or ubuntu 8 becuase it says error grub error
[04:24] <matthew> i did use xrandr, no other resolutions are there, i was at 1280 x 1024 in ubuntu 7.10 and win xp
[04:24] <graham> 21
[04:24]  * i-hope-this-name nods
[04:25] <wirechief_> matthew then use xrandr 1280x800 or whatever you have available that you want to use
[04:25] <bazhang> graham, did you have a backup
[04:25] <i-hope-this-name> adam7, tanath: so, my term says "root@ubuntu:/#" now... i'm good to go?
[04:25] <wirechief_> matthew xrandr -s
[04:25] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, yep
[04:25] <adam7> i-hope-this-name: yeah, I think so
[04:25] <Krimson> usser, that worked. Now I have another question
[04:25] <graham> well no, but i tried putting in my windows disk
[04:25] <graham> when i try and recover it says cannot find C
[04:25] <graham> so windows does not recognize my previously NTFS raid drive
[04:25] <i-hope-this-name> adam7, tanath: "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." might this have something to do with my broken install?
[04:25] <graham> and linux cant load it
[04:25] <graham> and slax coudlnt mount it to view files....
[04:26] <bazhang> graham, it is gone then
[04:26] <adam7> i-hope-this-name: yeah, run the command it gives you, it should fix the problem
[04:26] <graham> for sure? is there anyway to use raid or somethign on linux
[04:26] <graham> to somehow..view it..
[04:26] <bazhang> graham, unless it is just the partition tables missing
[04:26] <i-hope-this-name> adam7: alright
[04:26] <i-hope-this-name> adam7: ha, it's complaining about not being able to create /dev/null... that wont cause problems, will it?
[04:26] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, yep
[04:26] <Krimson> Does anyone know how to change my iPod's association from rhythmbox to amarok?
[04:26] <graham> well it had no partitions, all NTFS
[04:27] <graham> one drive one partition
[04:27] <secret901> does Ubuntu load any additional x programs after you get past the login screen?
[04:27] <bazhang> Krimson, install amarok
[04:27] <tanath> secret901, yes
[04:27] <i-hope-this-name> secret901: thinks like conky, i believe
[04:27] <adam7> i-hope-this-name: well, technically, if you're chroot'ing into a system, you probably should be mounting /dev, /proc, and /sys in the chroot'ed system's filesystem hierarchy, but keep going if it doesn't die on you
[04:27] <secret901> tanath: what are they? are they needed?
[04:27] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, i think i've had that before.. :-/
[04:27] <graham> im just confused at how ubuntu didnt isntall itself on the ext3 partition i MADE DURING the installation
[04:27] <jlc> has anybody gotten lightscribe to work under 8.04 AMD64?
[04:27] <m8i-freya> I got a problem that selinux cannot be installed if its boot manager is lilo, and cannot be removed after the bad installation.
[04:28] <tanath> secret901, you mean, before it finishes logging in? or after?
[04:28] <i-hope-this-name> adam7: it looks like it's doing alright
[04:28] <midori> how do i open pictures through the terminal?
[04:28] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: had what?
[04:28] <Krimson> Bazhang, I have installed amarok. However, when I plug in my iPod it does not run, rhythmbox does. I went to system>preferences>removable drives and media and I do not see a multimedia screen underwhich my ipod is listed.
[04:28] <secret901> I mean between the time you enter your login credentials
[04:28] <squee> graham: Did you give it the right location?
[04:28] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, that /dev/null thing
[04:28] <wirechief_> matthew try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh
[04:28] <m8i-freya> Is there someone using selinux?
[04:28] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, not sure what i did, or if it mattered
[04:28] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: ah, okay
[04:29] <secret901> tanath: I mean the time after you enter your login credentials and when your desktop shows up
[04:29] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: well, if it's tossing something to /dev/null, it doesn't matter if that's not a real location, that's kinda the point IIRC
[04:29] <graham> idk, i made the partition,. converted 2 fat32's to ext3 and swap, made the ext3 have a "/" directory or whatever
[04:29] <bazhang> Krimson, tried removing rhythmbox
[04:29] <tanath> secret901, _after_ desktop shows up, and everything seems done?
[04:29] <graham> then clicked next
[04:29] <graham> and it installed
[04:29] <adam7> Krimson: you want preferred applications instead of that
[04:29] <secret901> tanath: yes
[04:29] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, true
[04:29] <graham> but instead i think it installed on my already used....ntfs...
[04:29] <adam7> Krimson: system -> prefs -> preferred aps
[04:29] <graham> with windows.
[04:29] <tanath> secret901, well, some things are scheduled
[04:29] <Krimson> adam7: Is it under that? I'm sorry, let me take a look...
[04:29] <midori> how do i open pictures through the terminal???? command /home/usr/image.png   something like that
[04:29] <adam7> Krimson: it is on mine :)
[04:29] <bazhang> wirechief_, does it not matter where the -phigh goes? thought it was in the middle
[04:29] <matthew> ok i did
[04:29] <tanath> secret901, but as for user apps, you can check your sessions applet
[04:30] <secret901> tanath: what I'm seeing is when the login screen is displayed, the computer outputs video to TV, but when I'm logged in, it doesn't do that
[04:30] <adam7> midori: are you running X?
[04:30] <tanath> secret901, System > Prefs > Sessions
[04:30] <matthew> warning: overwriting possibly-customized configuration
[04:30] <midori> adam7, yes i am.
[04:30] <Krimson> adam7: Do I just use "custom" and type in amarok?
[04:30] <secret901> tanath: I'm wondering if any program is launched during that time that would change that
[04:30] <wirechief_> bazhang i have tried it both ways
[04:30] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys i have a manual installation of firefox, anyway to install the mplayer mozilla plugin without installing firefox from the repos becvause it "depends" on it?
[04:30] <tanath> secret901, weird. i don't know much about that though
[04:30] <bazhang> wirechief_, both work then? thanks ;]
[04:31] <wirechief_> bazhang at least on other distros ;)
[04:31] <adam7> Krimson: I think that would probably work - I don't own an iPod though :)
[04:31] <i-hope-this-name> aw crap, how do i get out of a man page?
[04:31] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, it shouldn't matter, but if the app gets an unexpected error, it could halt things
[04:31] <adam7> i-hope-this-name: press q
[04:31] <i-hope-this-name> adam7: awesome! thanks
[04:31] <graham> do raid harddrives show up in the ubuntu disk management?
[04:31] <matthew> wirechief_: I did what you put, still nothing.
[04:31] <bazhang> i-hope-this-name, q
[04:31] <graham> (from the installer)
[04:31] <Krimson> It did not when I plugged in my iPod, adam7. Do you have any further suggestion as to what to type into the custom box? Do I need any variables such as %d?
[04:32] <i-hope-this-name> it wants to turn on avahi-daemon... any reason that would be off?
[04:32] <Serveck> how do i update via cd without having to reformat my partition?
[04:32] <secret901> anyone knows which processes related to x are running when the login screen is displayed?
[04:32] <Serveck> i want to retain /home
[04:32] <bazhang> alt cd Serveck
[04:32] <wirechief_> matthew what graphics card do you have ?
[04:32] <Serveck> damn.. no way to do it with this?
[04:32] <adam7> Serveck: you can stick the cd in the drive and use apt-cdrom to update,  Ithink
[04:32] <Serveck> or through terminal?
[04:32] <matthew> xfx nvidia 128mb 6600gt
[04:32] <bazhang> nay Serveck  if this refers to live cd--> terminal sure no prob
[04:32] <adam7> Serveck: on mine, the package manager opens when I put a ubuntu cd in the drive
[04:33] <num_l0ck3d> Hi guys...
[04:33] <midori> how do i open images through the terminal??? command /home/usr/image.png
[04:33] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, not sure that it matters...
[04:33] <secret901> midori: try display
[04:33] <Serveck> ooh.. so put cd in AFTER booting up?
[04:33] <num_l0ck3d> can anyone tell me what is the default kernel version for ubuntu 7.10 (gutsy gibbon) ??
[04:33] <adam7> Serveck: yeah, that might do it :)
[04:33] <Serveck> ok
[04:33] <graham> anybody know if the ubuntu 8 install GUI disk manager can recognize OR format OR read RAID harddrives
[04:33] <bazhang> adam7, not for the livecd no
[04:33] <bazhang> Serveck, only alt cd
[04:33] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, right now you just want it working. you can tweak things after :P
[04:33] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: alright. i decided to turn it on anyway, might have even fixed my problem with hald not starting at login
[04:33] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: very true
[04:33] <adam7> bazhang: if he wants to update the current system, the cd goes in after the system is booted to load the packages off of it, right?
[04:34] <Serveck> argh.. i dont want to have to tre-dl
[04:34] <bazhang> adam7, he want to change versions
[04:34] <wirechief_> matthew maybe need a nvidia driver. well xrandr is what i use and the dpkg reconfigure, do you have a xorg.conf from a different debian distro you could use ?
[04:34] <Serveck> from 7.10 to 8.04
[04:34] <bazhang> Serveck, then upgrade via net
[04:34] <secret901> anyone know which x program is launched after you log in?
[04:34] <Serveck> takes too long to download
[04:34] <midori> secret901, let me try. thank you for a reply
[04:34] <wirechief_> matthew if it worked from 7.10 you could use the xorg.conf from it
[04:34] <Krimson> *sigh* linux hates me.
[04:34] <adam7> bazhang: Serveck: how do i update via cd without having to reformat my partition?  <--- boot into 7.10, use apt-cdrom to load the cd, and then apt-get update or something, right?
[04:35] <matthew> wirechief_: I just enabled restricted drivers from the top panel, im not sure what you mean, im still sorta new to linux
[04:35] <matthew> my 7.10 is gone
[04:35] <ForzaPalermo> hey guys i have a manual installation of firefox, anyway to install the mplayer mozilla plugin without installing firefox from the repos becvause it "depends" on it?
[04:35] <bazhang> adam7, nay
[04:35] <matthew> this is a clean install of 8.04
[04:35] <graham> anyone know if the partition managers can recognize RAID?
[04:35] <LadyNikon> !exim
[04:35] <LadyNikon> anyone use exim and like it?
[04:35] <adam7> bazhang: how do you mean?
[04:36] <midori> secret901, display did not work.
[04:36] <wirechief_> matthew well you can try the restricted see what happens
[04:36] <secret901> midori: do you have imagemagick installed?
[04:36] <jlc> has anybody successfully gotten lightscribe to run in 8.04 AMD64?
[04:36] <midori> secret901, i have the default, the eye of gnome
[04:36] <bazhang> adam7, to upgrade versions you need either the alt cd (he has live cd) or via the net--otherwise his /home will be erased
[04:36] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: hmm, dpkg died 'cause of too many errors... i guess i have to reboot and login properly
[04:36] <matthew> thats what im running on now, the resticted drivers
[04:36] <secret901> what command did you try?
[04:36] <matthew> restricted*
[04:36] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, what was the first one?
[04:37] <wirechief_> matthew i would do this cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak  to make a backup first
[04:37] <secret901> midori: which command did you use?
[04:37] <adam7> bazhang: but wouldn't using apt-cdrom from the existing installation pull the packages off the CD instead of the net?
[04:37] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: first one? it keeps complaining about /dev/null
[04:37] <secret901> midori: installing imagemagick would help
[04:37] <bazhang> adam7, there is newer stuff on the net by now
[04:37] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, and actually, since you can get to a terminal, you ought to upgrade that way
[04:37] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: indeed.
[04:37] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, rather than using the disc
[04:38] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: well, thanks for the help, sir!
[04:38] <adam7> bazhang: yeah, but it'll get the versions of packages that are on the cd and not download them, save a bit of time maybe
[04:38] <matthew> wirechief_: type that into the terminal?
[04:38] <i-hope-this-name> tanath: off to try this
[04:38] <tanath> i-hope-this-name, ah. yeah, just do that...
[04:38] <midori> secret901, i don't know the command to view images with eye of gnome.
[04:38] <midori> secret901, imagemagik work with gnome
[04:38] <tanath> midori, eog i believe
[04:39] <midori> tanath, eog is corrent. thank you sir.
[04:39] <spork969> plik, what is the command for abcde once i have it installed to rip audio in mp3 to ~/Music?
[04:39] <midori> tanath, :(
[04:39] <tanath> midori, np
[04:39] <tanath> midori, ?
[04:39] <Serveck> sweet! 7.10 recognized the new 8.04 disk.. do i just install the new packages?
[04:39] <midori> tanath :)))) i mean happy face
[04:39] <tanath> midori, hah
[04:39] <midori> tanath, ha >.<
[04:39] <bpat1434> Are there issues with gdesklets and x64?
[04:40] <adam7> Serveck: yeah
[04:40] <ForzaPalermo> whats better to use the restricted drivers for nvida, or envyng drivers?
[04:40] <secret901> anyone knows what is changed in the display manager in Ubuntu between the time it shows the login screen and the time it's logged in?
[04:40] <matthew> can someone view this? and explain to me how i should install it?
[04:40] <matthew> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_169.12.html
[04:40] <shimanoid> Hi, is there a way to use SSL with pidgin?
[04:40] <tanath> shimanoid, i think there's a plugin for that