[06:52] <Scorp_> wols_: Hey, can u tell me the launcher for CompizConfig Settings manager ?? and also Emerald theme manager
[06:53] <illmortal> Does anyone know if missing codecs (such as mp3) would cause a media server to not transcode?
[06:53] <Jordan_U> Qster: "readlink $(readlink $(which rcp))" :)
[06:53] <Whiz2> if I download and install unbuntu onto a machine that already has windows on it, will it allow to resize the windows partition (safely) and create a new partition to install ubuntu without losing data in the other partitions?
[06:53] <shrimants> anyone?
[06:53] <balz> Whiz2:  yes
[06:53] <abe3k> Jordan_U :  It worked !, seems that I have to turn the blur option in compiz for the effect to work correctly in emerald :D
[06:53] <shrimants> because my $TERM and $LANG variables are stuck
[06:53] <Whiz2> illmortal: it is possible, but I can't say for sure
[06:54] <Av1> i can see a folder examples
[06:54] <Av1> but i cannot access it from command line why?
[06:54] <Jordan_U> shrimants: "Stuck" in what way?
[06:54] <Whiz2> balz: thanks
[06:54] <Theaxiom> What does LTS mean? And do I want that version of ubuntu?
[06:54] <balz> illmortal:  yeah that could definitely do it.  have you downloaded the ubuntu restricted package?
[06:54] <Qster> Jordan_U: i dont understand so rcp is still scp? why two commands then
[06:54] <illmortal> Whiz2... what files/codecs do I need in order to play mp3s?
[06:54] <Whiz2> illmortal: I don't have that information
[06:54] <Flannel> !mp3 | illmortal
[06:55] <balz> illmortal:  you'll need the ubuntu restricted multiverse package
[06:55] <Quiescent> thanks, i'll try those. maybe it will help if i be more specific, i'm designing a webpage and i want it to look as close as it possibly can on windows, linux, and osx, does anyone have any suggestions?
[06:55] <illmortal> balz.. no I haven't. So far I have been able to install a codec for amarok but I think I'm missing general codecs.
[06:55] <balz> illmortal:  i forget the package name, but if you go into add/remove software and search for "ubuntu restricted" it should appear
[06:55] <shrimants> Jordan_U: basically, $TERM will not unset, reset, or set to anything. it stays with a value of urxvt no matter what i do
[06:55] <Av1> some one help me please
[06:55] <illmortal> k ill check it out balz. thanks for your input.
[06:55] <balz> illmortal:  no problem.  sounds like that's your problem
[06:56] <Whiz2> Quiescent: Are you trying to create  a webpage that will look exactly the same on all operating systems that view it?
[06:56] <carandraug> Av1: maybe because the folder examples is a link
[06:56] <Av1> i can see a directory examples but i cant access it from command line
[06:56] <shrimants> similarly, $LANG will not revert to both utf-8 and iso, it stays at just utf-8
[06:56] <abe3k> Thanks guys for the help !
[06:56] <shrimants> i followed the directions here http://wiki.afterstep.org/index.php?title=Rxvt-Unicode_Configuration_Tutorial
[06:56] <Quiescent> illmortal: add the medibuntu repositories and then when you try to play an mp3 it will find and show you codec packages that have the codecs you need through the package manager
[06:56] <Jordan_U> shrimants: Can you run "script", do some TERM="Hello World" ; echo $TERM and other such tests and pastebin the result?
[06:56] <Quiescent> Whiz2: yes, that's the goal
[06:56] <carandraug> Av1: that folder is actually in /usr/share/example-content
[06:56] <illmortal> medibuntu? nice ill check now.
[06:56] <Av1> yeah thanks
[06:57] <balz> Can anybody help me out with my smb.conf?  I have it pastebinned at http://pastebin.com/m3f7d1195
[06:57] <Whiz2> Quiescent: Web pages (as far as I know) are not OS specific, but browser specific.
[06:57] <shrimants> Jordan_U: i've tried that sort of thing. it sets it in that specific terminal and the changes are reflected if i type just set or export
[06:57] <krut> hey
[06:57] <carandraug> Av1: if you try ls to your home directory you'll notice a different color
[06:57] <shrimants> but if i try to use another terminal or echo, it says urxvt
[06:57] <Quiescent> Whiz2: the thing i'm concerned about is the fonts, Windows, Ubuntu, and OSX don't have the same fonts
[06:57] <Whiz2> Quiescent: some browsers display web pages differently than others, so I'm not sure it's really possible
[06:58] <GT> Does anyone know where I can get help with PulseAudio? Is there a channel or something?
[06:58] <GT> I can't find it.
[06:58] <Whiz2> Quiescent: there should be a generic font you can use, or just use the default font (by not specifying one in the <font> tag)
[06:58] <illmortal> balz, I just installed the ubuntu restricted (extras) do I need to do an apt-get update?
[06:58] <Jordan_U> Qster: Same reason ftp links to sftp, "real" rcp is unbelievably insecure
[06:59] <balz> illmortal:  i don't believe so, but it certainly can't hurt
[06:59] <dpyro> Does anyone know how to open a Mac pkg file?
[06:59] <illmortal> ok
[06:59] <_coredump_> moinsen
[06:59] <Quiescent> Whiz2: that's fine, i've never thought about developing webpages that will look the same on different platforms before, i was just wondering what everyone else does with fonts
[06:59] <Whiz2> Quiescent: I just don't bother specifying one lol
[07:00] <illmortal> balz, now that I have installed, should I shut down the media server then restart?
[07:00] <GT> PulseAudio help, anyone?
[07:00] <balz> illmortal:  i doubt it'll be necessary.  how are you serving the files?
[07:00] <iamas>  /msg ubottu etiquette
[07:00] <illmortal> I'm using uShare to stream media over to my PS3.
[07:01] <shrimants> Jordan_U: any ideas?
[07:01] <balz> illmortal:  try sudo /etc/init.d/ushare restart
[07:01] <illmortal> k
[07:02] <reasonpun> sometimes i will
[07:03] <Jordan_U> shrimants: Do you just want it to be set that way in all shells or in all applications?
[07:03] <shrimants> im not sure what it used to be set to, but i think it was just set to xfce4's terminal
[07:03] <Finnish> Anyone know how High Precision Event Timer affects ubuntu if it's disabled?
[07:04] <SitUbuntuSit> All of your events will be "slightly" off
[07:04] <shrimants> Jordan_U: i just want it to be set back to its original setting, when it would launch xfce's terminal
[07:04] <Jordan_U> shrimants: AHH, $TERM has nothing to do with what X terminal emulator is run by default
[07:05] <Finnish> SitUbuntuSit: Really...
[07:05] <Quiescent> has anyone figured out how to get the latest release candidate of Flash 10 to work in 8.04 and FF 3.0.1 yet?
[07:05] <SitUbuntuSit> Finnish, no
[07:05] <Jordan_U> shrimants: I think you want to look at update-alternatives
[07:05] <shrimants> Jordan_U: but if i try to launch weechat "in terminal" then it doesnt work
[07:05] <SitUbuntuSit> well maybe
[07:05] <balz> anybody here able to help with a samba config problem/
[07:05] <shrimants> i fi try to use nano it fails
[07:05] <shrimants> update alternatives?
[07:05] <SitUbuntuSit> Finnish, don't really know much about it
[07:06] <iamas> How can I disable the gesture to switch workspaces (dragging towards the edge of the screen) in Ubuntu using Gnome?
[07:06] <Finnish> http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=1101416&mpage=1&key=&#1101416
[07:06] <Whiz2> what is the difference between ubuntu, edubuntu, and kubuntu?
[07:06] <Quiescent> i mean, has anyone figured out how to get the latest release candidate of Flash 10 to work in Firefox 3.0.1 in 64-bit 8.04?
[07:06] <Jordan_U> shrimants: Still, that has nothing to do with the $TERM variable ( that variable tells you what shell terminal emulator you are using, it doesn't change what terminal emulator should be started by default if you need another )
[07:06] <balz> Whiz2:  desktops and apps
[07:07] <Finnish> It's related to that post, it seems disabling it makes vista more stable at low latencies (it's for my music making partiotion), otherwise I'm on ubuntu
[07:07] <balz> Whiz2:  ubuntu uses gnome and GTK apps, kubuntu uses KDE and qt apps, and edubuntu uses gnobe (afaik) and it's more geared towards education
[07:07] <Whiz2> balz: I've never used gnome before. How drastically different is it from KDE?
[07:08] <Av1> when a drive is mounted
[07:08] <Av1> where is it mounted?
[07:08] <Quiescent> lol, i haven't used KDE in a long time
[07:08] <Jordan_U> Av1: Usually /media
[07:08] <balz> Whiz2:  it looks fairly different.  I'm sure if you google imaged it you'd get a good idea.
[07:08] <Jordan_U> Av1: Or rather, a subdirectory in /media
[07:08] <balz> Whiz2:  i've found that gnome is usually better supported, but support for KDE is certainly out there
[07:09] <balz> Whiz2:  what are you trying to do with your ubuntu box?
[07:09] <Whiz2> Av1: You can also choose the mount point yourself I usually mount them to a subdirectory in /media
[07:09] <deltaslaya> Hey, whats the best way to put photos on my iPod in Ubuntu?
[07:09] <Av1> how do you mount yourself
[07:10] <Av1> and it is showing 2 cdroms where as i have only one
[07:10] <Whiz2> balz: I'm more or less trying to use it the way i use my windows PC. to browse the web, access my network, play games, listen to music, etc... but I'm not very educated on the linux command line stuff
[07:10] <Daisuke_Ido> deltaslaya: probably gtkpod, but i don't have any experience, so not entirely sure
[07:10] <Av1> how do you mount a drive by command
[07:10] <illmortal> ah damn...  I found out that uShare is specifically for XBOX and transcoding is completely different for PS3. uShare is useless lol.
[07:11] <illmortal> Back to the buggy and slow, "mediatomb'
[07:11] <deltaslaya> Daisuke_Ido: AFAIK gtkpod doesn't support photos? I tried gpixpod but the pictures on the ipod come out all distorted?
[07:11] <Daisuke_Ido> ah...  not sure then
[07:12] <Whiz2> balz: I need something that will let me do it all from the GUI, and still allow the use of advanced, and admin stuff
[07:12] <balz> Whiz2:  well not to discourage you, but you shoudl think carefully about that.  I tried, and found that strange issues can pop up (stuff like MS word document compatability) ... but i'd stick with gnome just bc of the support
[07:12] <balz> Whiz2:  and that's another thing.  Sooner or later you will use the command line
[07:12] <Av1> jordan how do you mount a drive from command line
[07:12] <Whiz2> balz: what kinds of things does gnome support that KDE doesn't?
[07:12] <genii> Av1: First you need to know 3 things.   The filessytem type. The /dev name of the block device. And the directory you are mounting it underneath.      Then you do: sudo mount -t filesystem-name /dev/its-devname  /its-mounting-directory
[07:13] <Whiz2> balz: yes I know I will use the command line, but the less I have to the better, because unlike dos, it's very confusing lol
[07:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> balz: he can have both gnome and kde installed and have both KDEs programmmes
[07:13] <Jordan_U> Av1: sudo mount /dev/<device> /mountpint
[07:13] <CostaRicanQuaker> and gnomes
[07:13] <balz> Whiz2:  they are both very mature, but with regards to ubuntu, you'll find more help, more readily if you stick with gnome
[07:13] <deltaslaya> OK, can anyone give me a suggestion for how to get photos on my iPod?
[07:13] <balz> CostaRainQuaker:  that's also true
[07:13] <genii> Av1: If it's ext/ext3/ext3   you don't need the -t filesystem-name     part as Jordan_U just showed the syntax as
[07:14] <balz> Whiz2:  i'd really stick with gnome.  the forums are more populated as are the irc channels.  it's not that gnome can do something that kde can't ... it's just that i've found that more pple use gnome, at least for ubuntu
[07:14] <genii> *ext2/ext3
[07:14] <iamas> How can I disable the gesture to switch workspaces (dragging towards the edge of the screen) in Ubuntu using Gnome?
[07:14] <genii> (put ext3 twice earlier)
[07:14] <Av1> its NTFS
[07:14] <superpushy> superpushy
[07:14] <Whiz2> deltaslaya: if it mounts as a removeable drive then just copy/paste
[07:14] <balz> Whiz2:  this channel is actually for ubuntu... I believe you'd have to go to #kubuntu for kde related issues.  Not taht you're not welcome here or anything
[07:15] <Whiz2> balz: hmm... maybe they can help me with my other problem from earlier
[07:15] <Jordan_U> genii: In fact most file systems don't require -t explicitly
[07:16] <balz> Whiz2:  definitely worth a try
[07:16] <genii> Jordan_U: It will try to decide what to use but often fails
[07:16] <Whiz2> balz: thanks I'll switch channels :-D
[07:16] <balz> Whiz2:  be sure to tell them whether you're using kde3 or kde4
[07:16] <balz> Whiz2:  np. good luck! it does get easier
[07:16] <deltaslaya> Whiz2: But how can I do it in a way so I can access them on the iPod?
[07:16] <Whiz2> balz: I'm using an old version of kubuntu 6.06.2 lol
[07:17] <Qster> update that!
[07:17] <balz> Whiz2:  ditch it and get the latest version.  That's going to probably eliminate half of yoru problems
[07:17] <Jordan_U> deltaslaya: Never used the program myself so I don't know what features it has but have you tried gtkpod?
[07:17] <Whiz2> deltaslaya: honestly the only way I know to mess with an iPod is through iTunes on a windows machine
[07:18] <Whiz2> balz: I'm not putting the newest version onto a 400mhtz machine with 256MB of ram... doubt it would run very well lol
[07:18] <balz> Whiz2:  try xubuntu
[07:18] <balz> and btw, KDE is a memory whore compared to gnome
[07:18] <Whiz2> balz: another problem is that changing my version may undo a lot of the things I had to do in order to get the server to work in the first place...
[07:19] <Jordan_U> Whiz2: This is Linux, Hardy will probably run just as fast if not a little faster than Dapper, and if not like mentioned before you should go with Xubuntu anyway
[07:19] <ActionParsnip> gnome is a memory whore compared to fluxbox
[07:19] <rgnr> ppl
[07:19] <rgnr> how do i remove pidgin manually?
[07:19] <HelloHelloHello> Do you think Xubuntu Alternative will work on a 500mhz 192 mb RAM
[07:19] <Flannel> rgnr: manually?
[07:19] <HelloHelloHello> system
[07:19] <balz> Whiz2:  ActionParsnip is right, but I find that fluxbox is a bit harsh on newer users.  I'd try xubuntu first and if that's still too heavy, try fluxbuntu
[07:19] <Jordan_U> rgnr: What do you mean "manually" ?
[07:19] <balz> Just my opinion though
[07:20] <Flannel> HelloHelloHello: yes, use the alternate CD to install.
[07:20] <HelloHelloHello> OK because the regular one on a live cd was sloooooow
[07:20] <Quiescent> UGH, Screem keeps crashing
[07:20] <rgnr> Jordan_U: i installed it with make
[07:20] <carandraug> iamas: you have compiz setting manager installed?
[07:20] <HelloHelloHello> I use to have Windows 2k Pro on it will it run as good a Windows
[07:20] <Flannel> HelloHelloHello: yeah, thats expected on only 192MB
[07:21] <iamas> I have a fresh Hardy Heron install
[07:21] <Whiz2> balz and Jordan_U: updating and changing version is all fine and dandy, but I have no idea how I would get the system back to it's current configuration so that it works like it should... it took a LOT of work, and physical help from others to configure it
[07:21] <Flannel> HelloHelloHello: full install will run a lot smoother
[07:21] <iamas> so if that means I do then yes
[07:21] <rgnr> Jordan_U: so i cannot remove it in regular way as it is not officially installed
[07:21] <Jordan_U> balz: Fluxbuntu is dead as far as I can tell, they released their "rc" for 7.10 and still haven't done anything since
[07:21] <HelloHelloHello> full install instead of what?
[07:21] <balz> Jordan_U:  shows you how much I use it ;-)
[07:21] <carandraug> iamas, then go to add/remove and search for ccsm
[07:21] <balz> Whiz2:  you could start by just installing the xfce desktop and using that on your current install
[07:21] <Quiescent> iamas: open a terminal and: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:22] <iamas> ah thx
[07:22] <Flannel> rgnr: Hopefully it installed to /usr/local/?
[07:22] <balz> Whiz2:  and then upgrading to the latest version
[07:22] <iamas> removing it will make the gestures go away?
[07:22] <rgnr> Flannel:  /usr/bin/
[07:22] <carandraug> iamas: no. You have to install it. It doesn't come by default
[07:22] <MonthOLDpickle> what flash do I install?
[07:22] <HelloHelloHello> Do you think it will be able to run starcraft or any other old games under wine or is that to processor intesive. Sorry for all the question I just want to see what it can can't do.
[07:22] <iamas> ah thanks
[07:22] <Jordan_U> Whiz2: Though far from guaranteed I would guess that 90 % of the problems you had with 6.04 will not exist in 8.04
[07:23] <Whiz2> balz: how do I do that? and if the desktop change, or upgrade screws something up, can I go back?
[07:23] <illmortal> does anyone know if Fuppes is more light weight than Mediatomb?
[07:23] <balz> Whiz2:  yeah you'll still have kde to revert to. and the upgrade really shouldn't screw much up.  Is this your primary workstation/
[07:23] <balz> ?
[07:23] <Flannel> rgnr: ... that's wrong, to begin with.  Locally compiled stuff go to /usr/local/{bin,lib,etc}.  Do you still have the source?  if so, is there a make clean?
[07:23] <MonthOLDpickle> I have three choices... abode flash, gnash swf player, or swfdec player  for adobe/macromedia
[07:23] <Whiz2> balz: no it is a dedicated web server
[07:23] <hateball> MonthOLDpickle: I'd go with Adobes
[07:23] <rgnr> nope
[07:24] <rgnr> Flannel:  nope
[07:24] <balz> Whiz2:  the main point is that if you have anything critical on it, it should be backed up no matter what.  Especialy since you're still starting out with linux
[07:24] <hateball> MonthOLDpickle: gnash and swfdec still arent 100%... not that adobes is either :D
[07:24] <Whiz2> balz: 10 years old at that lol
[07:24] <Jordan_U> Whiz2: And you can always try it out on the ( though it will be painfully slow on your comp, running from CD is especially taxing on older systems so don't let it fool you into thinking an installed system will be as sluggish ) LiveCD to see that everything works
[07:24] <Flannel> rgnr: Alright, well, either grab it again, and hope there's a make clean, if there's not, or you don't feel like it, you get to delete everything manually.
[07:24] <balz> lol
[07:24] <Quiescent> MonthOLDpickle: install the latest version of Flash 10, you can find a tutorial on how to do it online, Flash 9 constantly crashes in Firefox
[07:24] <rgnr> Flannel:  and how do i do that?
[07:24] <balz> Whiz2:  I can't guarantee taht nothing will break, but in my opinion upgrades solve problems.  They rarely create them
[07:25] <Whiz2> Jordan_U: you are missing the point
[07:25] <Detrix> Hello all, I need to get ubuntu update (specifically the build essential package) but I need to get it through windows. I can not get ubuntu to recognize my dialup modem or wifi. so I have to go through windows.
[07:25] <Jordan_U> Whiz2: That being?
[07:25] <Flannel> rgnr: Do what?  remove stuff manually?  with rm, and... patience.
[07:25] <okeefferd> hmm i'm having an issue mounting a samba share using the hostname of the computer.  I am issuing the following command: #mount -t smbfs -o username=user,password=pass //hostname/share /mnt/share
[07:26] <puccio> hi, can someone give me a hint on how do I launch a sequence of commands with "nohup" ?
[07:26] <Jordan_U> Detrix: You can generate a list of URL's to download packages from with Synaptic in Ubuntu
[07:26] <okeefferd> the same command works when using the IP
[07:26] <Whiz2> Jordan_U: it's not the computer itself I'm worried about working with the upgrade... it's the webserver configuration, symbolic links/directories, email server, and VNC setup for my desktop that can not change, or I will never figure out how to get it back
[07:26] <puccio> I would like to launch many of them in sequence, and being able to disconnect from the console
[07:27] <Detrix> Jordan: thanx
[07:27] <Whiz2> Jordan_U: those things have to be exactly the same, or better after an upgrade
[07:27] <Jordan_U> Whiz2: You can do a complete backup of your install with partimage then try an upgrade and go back to 6.04 if the upgrade fails
[07:28] <balz> Whiz2:  you could backup the relevant config files
[07:28] <Detrix> Since I am on windows at this moment, and anyone give me the URL for the build essential package???
[07:28] <rgnr> Flannel:  you mean just rm all files in here? http://paste.ubuntu.com/39310/
[07:28] <balz> Detrix:  have you considered installing it via SSH?
[07:28] <Jordan_U> Detrix: Problem is that it isn't as single package so there are multiple URL's
[07:28] <Whiz2> balz: since i dunno what those files are, I would have to backup the entire linux partition.
[07:28] <balz> Whiz2:  you should start by looking those up
[07:29] <davi> hi all
[07:29] <Detrix> Jordan_U: thanx
[07:29] <Flannel> rgnr: Those would be some of them, but not all of them.
[07:29] <Whiz2> Jordan_U: can it be backed up to a network drive then made into a bootable disc?
[07:29] <rgnr> Flannel:  but those r the only ones he located i don't need to remove dependencies cuz i
[07:29] <Flannel> rgnr: the best thing is probably to download the same version you had, do make, but not make install, and then get a list of files from that make, and then delete them in the real filesystem
[07:30] <Whiz2> balz: I didn't do the config stuff myself, and dunno what all programs are involved in everything that was done, so i have nothing to really base my searches on
[07:30] <rgnr> Flannel:  gonna compile a newer version
[07:30] <Flannel> rgnr: Right, but not everything that pidgin installed has "pidgin" in the name.
[07:30] <Flannel> rgnr: Don't compile.  Use packages.  Can't you tell how much of a headache this is?
[07:31] <Whiz2> balz: if I were to backup, i would rather just backup the installation drive where the config files are stored
[07:31] <Jordan_U> Whiz2: A bootable internal hard disk yes, a bootable DVD or USB drive would be possible but far too much work to be worth it
[07:31] <rgnr> Flannel:  but compiling adopts the package to that specific machine
[07:31] <balz> that works
[07:32] <Flannel> rgnr: You won't see any/much benefit, but if you'd like, would you like to buy the golden gate bridge?
[07:32] <rgnr> Flannel:  what is that?
[07:32] <Whiz2> Jordan_U: i can't make a backup CD from the linux machine as it only has cd-rom. the only way to back it up is to a network share on one of my windows clients
[07:33] <okeefferd> anyone have an idea on my smb issue
[07:33] <Whiz2> okeefferd: what is the issue?
[07:33] <Jordan_U> Whiz2: You can back up the image partimage creates to anything you want
[07:34] <rgnr> Flannel:  btw there's no pidgin 4.5 for ubuntu yet
[07:34] <okeefferd>  I am issuing the following command: #mount -t smbfs -o username=user,password=pass //hostname/share /mnt/share
[07:34] <Jordan_U> Whiz2: You can only easily restore it to and boot from another internal HD ( you can restore it to whatever you want as well, it just won't be bootable )
[07:34] <okeefferd> but it seems to be upset
[07:34] <okeefferd> if i use the ip address instead of hostname it works fine
[07:34] <arktvrvs> you're issuing the command with # on it?
[07:35] <okeefferd> no thats just the prompt
[07:35] <okeefferd> sorry
[07:35] <arktvrvs> oh gotcha
[07:35] <Whiz2> Jordan_U: I want to be able to use a bootable CD to restore it
[07:35] <arktvrvs> use the ip then.  the other machine must have nmbd or some such name daemon running
[07:35] <Jordan_U> Whiz2: You would be able to use the standard Ubuntu ( or any other distro ) LiveCD and partimage to restore it
[07:35] <Flannel> rgnr: At the very least, in the future always use /usr/local
[07:36] <okeefferd> it doesnt work with dns resolution?
[07:36] <AlNahar> hi
[07:36] <Jordan_U> rgnr: You mean 2.5 ?
[07:36] <arktvrvs> not unless you have an entry in your hosts file
[07:36] <balz> dumb quesition:  how do you exit a man page?
[07:36] <Jordan_U> rgnr: http://www.getdeb.net/app/Pidgin
[07:36] <arktvrvs> balz, press 'q'
[07:36] <sluimers> join #openchrome
[07:36] <abe3k> Hi guys, is there any "Throw window" method that I can use with hardy ?
[07:36] <okeefferd> hmmm, that sux
[07:37] <Whiz2> balz: could I upgrade kubuntu to say... xubuntu just by using the latest xubuntu install CD?
[07:37] <Whiz2> balz: press Q
[07:37] <balz> Whiz2:  yeah
[07:37] <okeefferd> does smbmount treat it similarly or might that be a solution
[07:37] <alistair_> Help: how can I edit and save a protected script file?
[07:37] <arktvrvs> okeefferd, smbmount its what mount uses when you specify -t i believe
[07:37] <balz> Whiz2:  wait. are you trying to upgrade your current installation/
[07:37] <okeefferd> ah
[07:37] <ianm_> ahhh flash is crashing on dailyshow and colbert report... emergency.... emergency....
[07:37] <Jordan_U> alistair_: What file are you trying to edit specifically?
[07:38] <Bigmack83> is there a way i can copy an ubuntu installation currently installed on my HDD onto an external HDD so i can boot from it? or do i have to reinstall it?
[07:38] <alistair_> Jordan_U, script file /usr/bin/compiz
[07:38] <okeefferd> well then, besides adding the ip and name to the hosts do you know of any wya to mount a share using the hostname?
[07:38] <arktvrvs> okeefferd, you MAY be able to use dns, if your router supports it
[07:38] <okeefferd> it does, pfsense :)
[07:38] <arktvrvs> for example, i can do computername.gateway.2wire.net, its something my router does
[07:39] <abe3k> Hey Jordan_U, you know of any program that gives a throw window effect ?
[07:39] <okeefferd> yea, and I know it works as I can ssh to user@hostname and it works
[07:39] <Jordan_U> alistair_: "gksudo gedit /usr/bin/compiz" ( If you are unblacklisting your card remember not to make a bug report if there are any compiz problems, you are warned :)
[07:40] <Jordan_U> abe3k: Describe the effect, what does it do?
[07:40] <ianm_> Jordan_U: how will it get unblacklisted if there are no bug reports? :)
[07:40] <Whiz2> how do I know what version of mysql-server i'm using?
[07:40] <alistair_> Jordan_U, OK tks.
[07:40] <balz> how do i add a password to a user i created via command line?
[07:40] <abe3k> Jordan_U: I grab a window, drag it for a little while and leave it move then it stops by itself
[07:40] <Jordan_U> alistair_: np :)
[07:41] <Kartagis> is it not possible to load more than 4 keyboard layouts?
[07:41] <arktvrvs> balz, passwd username
[07:41] <balz> arktvrvs:  do i need sudo for that?
[07:41] <arktvrvs> yes
[07:41] <abe3k> Jordan_U: kinda like throwing the windows from place to place
[07:41] <Jordan_U> abe3k: Wobbly windows does that, but also makes your windows wobbly :) I don't know if there is a plugin that just does that but I would expect there is
[07:42] <jahnkeanater> i am trying to add a upload page to my websight but it dosent work
[07:42] <Quiescent> what web development IDE does everyone recommend?
[07:42] <eyyYo> Is it possible to turn one screen in my dual monitor setup off with a command or something like that? That is, not having to restart X11.
[07:42] <abe3k> Jordan_U: I liked the wobbly window throw method but the window moves only for a short distance
[07:42] <balz> arktvrvs:  i'm lost (already lol).  What do I type verbatim?
[07:43] <arktvrvs> balz, sudo passwd username
[07:43] <Jordan_U> abe3k: Have you tried changing the viscosity and other settings in ccsm ?
[07:43] <BlearyBram> hello, did you have any issue with Java on Ubuntu 8.04.1 (Header 2.6.24-19)?
[07:44] <balz> arktvrvs:  got it.  i'm a bit slow today
[07:44] <arktvrvs> no problem
[07:44] <BlearyBram> many times after I had a successful run on the JRE then suddenly it stopped working.
[07:44] <abe3k> Jordan_U: yeah tried changing the parameters but nothing extended the distance :(
[07:44] <balz> arktvrvs:  how can I make a particular user an administrator over cli?
[07:45] <Theaxiom> How do I setup an ubuntu computer to be browse-able on the network?
[07:45] <alistair_> Jordan_U, Tks that worked, but the change of video to VIA didnt. Pity :-(
[07:45] <Av1> i need to unzip a file
[07:45] <Av1> how do i do it
[07:45] <Jordan_U> Av1: Double click it
[07:45] <ianm_> Av1: right click on it
[07:46] <vryk014k45> My monitor settings are for 50 hz, but my monitor is rated for 60 hz, how can I set the monitor to 60hz?
[07:46] <Theaxiom> Av1: tar -zxvf [filename]
[07:46] <Skaag> how do I know if bsd process accounting is enabled on my ubuntu machine?
[07:46] <ianm_> Av1: choose one... ;P
[07:46] <Gumby> Theaxiom: you need to setup samba server and some of the options
[07:46] <Theaxiom> Gumby: thanks
[07:46] <balz> What command do i use to make a user an administrator?
[07:46] <arktvrvs> balz, visudo
[07:46] <Theaxiom> balz: It is in the control panel of users
[07:46] <arktvrvs> You have to edit the sudoers file
[07:46] <Jordan_U> balz: You add the user to the "admin" group
[07:47] <balz> thanks
[07:47] <Av1> i am trying to access a folder but not able to why?
[07:47] <balz> arktvrvs:  where's the sudoers file located?
[07:47] <sluimers> Hi, I'm having trouble with installing openchrome on my VIA computer, can anyone help me with this? sudo modprobe drm gives me an unknown symbol in module error
[07:47] <vampire> how can I set my screen rate to 60hz?
[07:48] <Av1> i am trying to access a folder but not able to why?
[07:48] <arktvrvs> in /etc/sudoers
[07:49] <djhash> hey.. what package/sources i need to have libcurl installed?
[07:49] <Av1>  i am trying to access a folder but not able to why?
[07:49] <djhash> !repeat | Av1
[07:49] <arktvrvs> Av1, evidently you dont have the correct permissions to
[07:50] <Av1> no arkt thats not the case
[07:50] <ianm_> djhash: apt-cache search libcurl
[07:50] <ianm_> djhash: or search in Synaptic
[07:51] <arktvrvs> Av1, have you sudo'd?
[07:51] <Av1> no
[07:51] <Av1> ark tell me how to
[07:51] <Jordan_U> abe3k: Possibly check out mouse gestures
[07:51] <balz> how does one check the permissions of a drive?  I want to make sure that my user owns a particular drive (/media/500gb)
[07:51] <djhash> ianm_: the only thing I get is libcurl3.. but even after installing it ./configure still tells me that libcurl is not installed
[07:51] <Whiz2> would a command such as sudo apt-get upgrade do an upgrade of my version of ubuntu straight from the internet, or do I have to actually upgrade using an installation CD?
[07:51] <arktvrvs> what directory cant you get to Av1
[07:52] <Jordan_U> djhash: What are you trying to compile?
[07:52] <Av1> a directory on my disk
[07:52] <djhash> Jordan_U: oddcastv2_xmms plugin..
[07:52] <BigBuddha> my fans are staying on 24/7 at full tilt, can someone help me? I am using Ubuntu hardy
[07:52] <Kartagis> is it not possible to load more than 4 keyboard layouts?
[07:53] <ianm_> Whiz2: from the internet
[07:53] <Whiz2> BigBuddha: what fans are you talking about specifically?  I can change the desktop later
[07:55] <Flannel> !upgrade | Whiz2
[07:55] <Whiz2> BigBuddha: then it's possible something is heating your system up (which would cause the fans to spin like that)
[07:55] <Qster> any idea why firefox crashes when i load a myspace page?
[07:56] <Qster> have flash 10
[07:56] <Jordan_U> Qster: It's trying to do you a favor :) ?
[07:56] <arktvrvs> bad flash code?
[07:56] <Apolinario> YEah
[07:56] <Apolinario> why?
[07:56] <Apolinario> I think
[07:56] <Apolinario> its all about
[07:56] <Apolinario> flashy thingys
[07:56] <FloodBot1> Apolinario: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:56] <Apolinario> cya
[07:56] <ianm_> Qster: I see crashes due to flash now too
[07:56] <Whiz2> crashes the same for me on opera with flash 10 as well
[07:56] <BigBuddha> Flannel: hey, hows it going, is there anyway you could help with my fan problem? or how can i check to see whats causing it?
[07:56] <Whiz2> i think it's a problem with flash 10
[07:57] <Av1> avinash@avinash-desktop:/media/disk-1$ cd /OracleSetup bash: cd: /OracleSetup: No such file or directory
[07:57] <nihl> how do you even get flash to work
[07:57] <Av1> avinash@avinash-desktop:/media/disk-1$ cd /OracleSetup         bash: cd: /OracleSetup: No such file or directory
[07:57] <arktvrvs> Av1, then the directory doesn't exist.
[07:57] <Flannel> BigBuddha: fans being on shouldn't cause the PC to freeze... they only aid in cooling.
[07:57] <nihl> I've been trying to get flash 9 to run as a plug-in for firefox, but I can't get it to work
[07:58] <Av1> it does exist
[07:58] <ianm_> nihl: download the .tar.gz from Adobe, open it, run the script
[07:58] <arktvrvs> Av1, type ls /
[07:58] <Flannel> Av1: Try without the leading /
[07:58] <arktvrvs> You wont see it there
[07:58] <nihl> I ran it in a terminal
[07:58] <mespejel> hello for some reason.. i stuck while booting..
[07:58] <nihl> it said installation is complete
[07:58] <lachlan> Hi---silly question, but how can I push a window up past the top of the screen? Non-resizable installer that has the "next" button at the bottom.
[07:58] <BigBuddha> Flannel, hmmm, well i know there must be something wrong, because now the fans are deafening
[07:58] <Av1> same
[07:58] <arktvrvs> lachlan, i had that problem.  increase your screen resolution
[07:58] <mespejel> and i dont want to force to shudown the laptop.. how can i restart or something if im in.. mespejel_laptop login:
[07:58] <mespejel> what should i use
[07:58] <Jordan_U> lachlan: Hold alt and drag it
[07:58] <mespejel> to boot or restart
[07:58] <nihl> I deleted xpti.dat like it said
[07:58] <mespejel> whatever i just want to get out of here
[07:59] <arktvrvs> meshuga_, login and type sudo reboot
[07:59] <Av1> same problem
[07:59] <Flannel> BigBuddha: I won't argue that.  Check your BIOS-y stuff?  I know some bios things (I know you're using EFI, but there's probably an equivalent?) handle the fan states.
[07:59] <lachlan> Jordan_U: That's what I'm doing---it won't let the top of the window past the panel.
[07:59] <mespejel> i try sudo reboot
[07:59] <mespejel> didnt work
[07:59] <nihl> and whenever I run anything with flash it says I need to install it
[07:59] <Jordan_U> mespejel: Didn't work in what way?
[07:59] <Flannel> !flash | nihl
[07:59] <Jordan_U> mespejel: Did you log in first?
[07:59] <nihl> ubottu: thanks
[07:59] <c0mp133713313371> lachlan - You're holding Alt and clicking anywhere on the window?  (Not just the titlebar?)
[07:59] <lachlan> Yeah.
[07:59] <BigBuddha> Flannel, ok so its in dos right
[08:00] <Achoth> Hello. Recently I've noticed that Ubuntu has become exceedingly slow. Things like starting a terminal or a browser can take 20 seconds, and heavier stuff like starting Gparted just doesn't happen. What can be causing this annoyance?
[08:00] <lachlan> And the screen res thing won't let me make it any higher.
[08:00] <Flannel> BigBuddha: er.. no, not DOS.  BIOS.  But, I'm not sure what EFI's equivlaent is.
[08:00] <BigBuddha> hmmm
[08:00] <c0mp133713313371> lachlan: There's an option in the gconf-editor that allows windows to go above the top.  Can't remember where it is off the top of my head though....
[08:00] <mespejel> jordan. im stuck in CLI.. while booting. i dont know why i and i dont want to make a force shutdown.. so my state now is... mespejel-laptop login:
[08:00] <mespejel> what should i use to boot or to reboot
[08:00] <Jordan_U> lachlan: In ccsm uncheck "constrain" for the "move" plugin
[08:00] <arktvrvs> meshuga_, you have to log in first
[08:00] <arktvrvs> meshuga_, with your username and password
[08:01] <arktvrvs> blah
[08:01] <arktvrvs> mespejel, that was for you
[08:01] <mespejel> ok
[08:01] <lachlan> cssm?
[08:01] <sgt_keroro> mespejel: tru to login using yyour account
[08:01] <ianm_> Achoth: run gnome-system-monitor and look for CPU usage, heavy disk usage, etc.
[08:01] <lachlan> oh
[08:01] <lachlan> Whoops.
[08:01] <Jordan_U> mespejel: Type your user name, hit enter, it will ask you for your password
[08:01] <BigBuddha> Flannel: how could i check to see what might be causing it to overheat?
[08:01] <mespejel> ok done
[08:01] <mespejel> thank you
[08:01] <arktvrvs> welcome
[08:01] <sgt_keroro> "shutdown -r now" will restart your laptop
[08:01] <Av1> should i create a directory by mkdir and then try
[08:01] <lachlan> I don't think I'm using compiz...or is it in the default now?
[08:01] <Fredd> why sometimes i get files created that are such like file.blah and file.blah~
[08:02] <Flannel> BigBuddha: I have no idea.  If the fans are on full blast, it shouldn't be overheating.
[08:02] <Jordan_U> lachlan: It's the default now.
[08:02] <jimenez> Flannel: acidrip works, i just hadnt installed the w32codecs
[08:02] <jimenez> hehe
[08:02] <jimenez> good night
[08:02] <ianm_> Achoth: when it gets slow does the hard drive make lots of noise?
[08:02]  * jimenez is a putz
[08:02] <BigBuddha> Flannel, i mean something might be causing them to go at it like that
[08:02] <Jordan_U> lachlan: Plus I think that metacity doesn't constrain windows by default while compiz does :)
[08:02] <jimenez> Thanks for the help
[08:02] <Achoth> ianm_: Nothing uses alot of processor, and nothing uses alot of RAM.
[08:02] <Achoth> ianm_: No, it's perfectly quiet
[08:03] <Whiz2> Flannel: thanks for the upgrades page, but it won't help me very much as I have to upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10 and 6.10 is no longer supported so I can't seem to get upgrade information that way... (it says only u pgrade in increments of fresh)
[08:03] <Flannel> Whiz2: No.  6.06 to 8.04 upgrade is supported
[08:03] <lachlan> Argh, I'm having the same problem in the appearance box.
[08:03] <Achoth> ianm_: In fact I think my entire computer has gone slow for some reason, XP won't even boot correctly.
[08:03] <lachlan> Time to give it a try over SSH.
[08:03] <Flannel> Whiz2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades#Network%20upgrade%20for%20Kubuntu%20desktops%20(recommended)
[08:04] <ianm_> Achoth: you might want to add System Monitor to your panel and watch for any (; suspicious behavior ;)
[08:04] <Achoth> ianm_: Already done sir :)
[08:04] <Flannel> Whiz2: er, I think I gave you the wrong link.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardyUpgrades#Upgrade%20from%206.06%20LTS%20to%208.04%20LTS
[08:04] <Whiz2> thanks
[08:04] <BigBuddha> Flannel, i'll check the BIOS, but another issue is that my sound isnt right, it is turned up all the way but its as if its at 40%
[08:04] <navjot> how to install iso file
[08:05] <arktvrvs> navjot, you burn it to a cd as ISO image
[08:05] <Jordan_U> Whiz2: Oh, you are using 6.06 ?! As a server? Make sure that ssh is not open to the internet and upgrade as soon as possible, there was a serious security vulnerability that was fixed in ssh that I believe 6.06 is vulnerable to ( but not 6.04, which I thought was what you had )
[08:05] <[matrim]> Hi, I'm having some trouble mounting /dev/sdb1 on my 8.04 server
[08:05] <ianm_> Achoth: if it's flaky in Windows also, you might want to unplug it, open it up, and make sure all the wires are tight, nothing is sparking, etc.
[08:05] <Av1> how can i check which process is going on and what is the status
[08:05] <arktvrvs> Av1, top
[08:05] <ianm_> Av1: gnome system monitor
[08:05] <navjot> arktvrvs i don't have writer other way plz
[08:06] <Whiz2> Jordan_U: i have it set so that I can login from the internet using SSH as the server is DMZ
[08:06] <Whiz2> Jordan_U: never been hacked
[08:06] <dumbdum> How do i setup 3 seagate SCSI drives with jumper assignments on a three plug cable. Thanks
[08:06] <BigBuddha> !volume control
[08:06] <arktvrvs> navjot, the only other thing you can do is mount it into a filesystem
[08:06] <arktvrvs> but you likely wont be able to install from it
[08:06] <Achoth> ianm_: Something that may be suspicious is that when I try to do something like open a terminal or browser, the processor isn't used at all for 15 seconds... then when the application is actually opening processor usage is 50% for half a second... It's like Ubuntu is waiting to start the application
[08:06] <arktvrvs> since its meant to be booted
[08:07] <Achoth> ianm_: That I shall do
[08:07] <navjot> arktvrvs how to mount ut
[08:07] <navjot> arktvrvs how to mount it
[08:07] <Whiz2> Jordan_U: do I *need* to close ssh off from the internet before upgrading?
[08:07] <arktvrvs> navjot, use mount with -o loop
[08:08] <arktvrvs> like mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/file /mountpoint
[08:08] <arktvrvs> i think its iso9660.. or cd9660?
[08:08] <iarwain1> iso
[08:08] <Jordan_U> Whiz2: I guess a few more hours can't hurt, but you may have been compromised already and just don't know it
[08:08] <navjot> arktvrvs i can't understand i m new to linux can u explain plz
[08:08] <arktvrvs> navjot, yes i can explain.  "You have to burn that ISO onto a cd."  end of story
[08:09] <sebrock> The non-graphical installer wont get pass the partitioner here... it did before? There is no output on why
[08:09] <Flannel> sebrock: do you have a root partition?
[08:09] <Jordan_U> Whiz2: Let me check that 6.06 is in fact vulnerable
[08:09] <[matrim]> how can I check what FileSystem a partition is?
[08:09] <ale22945> hi all! Does anyone know why my laptop battery with ubuntu last only 1h45' and with winzozz more than 3hrs? Thanks!
[08:09] <arktvrvs> [matrim], type df in terminal
[08:09] <Flannel> Whiz2, Jordan_U: Dapper is safe
[08:09] <sebrock> Flannel: yes ext3 on /
[08:09] <fauzie> what driver should i use for Canon ip1700?
[08:09] <liquidbeef> Hello, I'm reading a book (LDD Linux Device Drivers) and I want to start doing some of the examples. In the book, it tells me to build my own kernel so that I can have the proper headers, but reading some other discussions, it tells me I just need the kernel headers package (check), how do I properly link to them?
[08:09] <navjot> arktvrvs thanks for this story
[08:10] <sebrock> Flannel: even guided wont work
[08:10] <Jordan_U> Flannel: Whiz2 Sorry, my bad, I forgot that 6.06 was what should have been 6.04 but got delayed, I was thinking that you were using edgy :)
[08:10] <[matrim]> arktvrvs, I meant how do I check that file sustem a partition is so that I can mount it
[08:10] <Flannel> sebrock: file a bug on LP, they'll give you magic juju to type to to find out the secret error (or at least, why there is no displayed error, etc)
[08:10] <Whiz2> Jordan_U: nope it is dapper
[08:10] <arktvrvs> [matrim], ohh, hm not sure. what do you think the filesystem is?
[08:11] <jamus> after kernel update i misscalibrated my screen res where can i fix it?
[08:11] <sebrock> Flannel: uh... worked before... suckage
[08:11] <Jordan_U> Whiz2: Now that I have made you sweat a little, you can upgrade directly to hardy in one step :)
[08:11] <Whiz2> Jordan_U: lmao
[08:11] <Jordan_U> Whiz2: LTS to LTS can be done in one step, other releases cannot
[08:11] <Flannel> Jordan_U: I already mentioned that
[08:11] <[matrim]> I'm almost 100% sure it's ext3, it's supose to be the backup drive, so I want to mount it, but mount commands sais it's wqrong FS or bad superblock on /dev/sdb1 when I try to mount using -t ext3
[08:11] <Flannel> Jordan_U: keep up with the times :)
[08:12] <arktvrvs> [matrim], have you tried ext2 or reiserfs?
[08:12] <nihl> so, how long have you guys been running Ubuntu?
[08:12] <Whiz2> Jordan_U: yeah the website I'm looking at tells me I can upgrade directly to 8.04 LTS without going incrementally
[08:12] <Flannel> sebrock: Did you create the partition in the parittioner?  Ubiquity had that bug (not that debinstall and ubiquity are related in any way, but who knows)
[08:12] <[matrim]> arktvrvs : same result
[08:12] <Flannel> nihl: Chatting stuffs is in #ubuntu-offtopic, since its far too busy here
[08:13] <Whiz2> Jordan_U: I honestly didn't even realize I had a lts (long term) installation until today lol
[08:13] <[matrim]> arktvrvs : I created it during the server install and I don't see any other choice I could have made except ext3, thats why I'm so confused
[08:13] <arktvrvs> [matrim], you might not have the device name entirely correct
[08:13] <Jordan_U> Whiz2: It's a good thing, otherwise you would have been forced to upgrade a long time ago :)
[08:14] <arktvrvs> or the filesystem is corrupt.  not sure what the deal is.
[08:14] <[matrim]> arktvrvs : fdisk -l line ( /dev/sdb1          0+  30393   30394- 244139773+  83  Linux )
[08:14] <Newbuntu2> anyone know of an open source mail client that will work with a microsoft exchange server?
[08:14] <Whiz2> jordan how do I find the free space on my installation drive without it combining the free space of each thing mounted in /media?
[08:14] <arktvrvs> ahh well
[08:15] <Jordan_U> Whiz2: df -h will show per device space left
[08:15] <balz> how can i check if  my user owns a drive?
[08:15] <Whiz2> Jordan_U: thanks
[08:15] <Jordan_U> Whiz2: np
[08:15] <[matrim]> arktvrvs : thanks anyway
[08:16] <Av1> is it possible to down load a package which plays FM radio
[08:16] <Flannel> Newbuntu2: Evolution would be your best bet.  And it's rude to cross post.
[08:16] <Whiz2> oh goodness... will it run on a system with a 3.7GB hard drive? I've only got 897MB left free... that's not good
[08:17] <jorrit_> I'm trying to get Ubuntu to display VLC on my 2nd X-screen (screen 1) when inserting a DVD
[08:17] <balz> lol, Whiz2, you might be in the market for some new hardware =)
[08:17] <Flannel> Whiz2: xubuntu will require less, but Kubuntu takes 2.1G on a fresh install.
[08:17] <jorrit_> I'm using nVidia Binary drivers, using Xinerama with 2 different X-displays.
[08:17] <jorrit_> Ubunto 8.04
[08:17] <Av1> is it possible to play FM radio by downloading a pacakge
[08:18] <balz> So I can't for the life of me figure out why only one of my smb shares won't grant me write access... the only thing that's different about it is the drive it's on.  smb.conf here: http://pastebin.com/m3f7d1195
[08:18] <sebrock> Flannel: its the partitioner in the installer
[08:18] <jorrit_> Avl, do you have an fm-radio hardware?
[08:18] <Av1> no i dont
[08:18] <BigBuddha> how do i check the version sound card i have in the terminal?
[08:18] <Whiz2> Flannel: it's taking up 2.7 right now out of 3.7
[08:18] <jorrit_> Avl, then you should look for stations that allso broadcast online in a suitable streaming format
[08:18] <Jordan_U> jorrit_: Is it a combined display ( can you move windows from one to the other ) ?
[08:19] <jorrit_> Jordan_U, Yes it is
[08:19] <Jordan_U> jorrit_: Then I don't know, might try devilspie
[08:19] <lonejack> hi, I've a pc which can be used by many users. Does somebody know if it is possible to hide an external hd to some of the users(but not all)? Thank you
[08:19] <Av1> what about gkrellm-radio
[08:20] <sebrock> LOL now it doesnt even find the ISO anylonger
[08:20] <sebrock> what a joke
[08:20] <jorrit_> Avl, you'd need proper hardware to receive FM-radio.
[08:20] <Av1> does this work gkrellm-radio
[08:20] <Av1> oh ok
[08:20] <Av1> thats jorrit
[08:20] <jorrit_> np
[08:20] <Av1> thanks
[08:20] <jorrit_> Avl, np
[08:20] <arktvrvs> FM radio means frequency modulation, electromagnetic waves.  you need an FM receiver for FM radio ;)
[08:21] <balz> I'm going to burn samba at the stake...
[08:21] <Whiz2> where is smb.conf stored?
[08:21] <dinesh_> hi
[08:21] <arktvrvs> lol
[08:21] <arktvrvs> samba has given me some nice headaches in the past
[08:21] <balz> whiz2:  /etc/samba/smb.conf
[08:21] <jorrit_> arktvrvs, Avl: lol
[08:22] <balz> arktvrvs:  i just got off the freaking valium too. my tension headaches are about to come back
[08:22] <jorrit_> Jordan_U, thanks for the suggestion!
[08:22] <arktvrvs> ohh yay
[08:22] <dinesh_> i am beginner in linux so plz help me from where to start as well suggest some books and websites
[08:22] <Jordan_U> jorrit_: np
[08:22] <Av1> hey what are .cpio files
[08:22] <balz> dinesh_ :  lifehacker
[08:22] <esac_> i installed ubuntu 8.04 and the scrollwheel on the edges of my mousepad always worked. i had to reinstall and i installed 8.04.1 and now it doesnt. any ideas ?
[08:23] <Totakeke> Lol it's me again. Quick question. You know how I was trying to install Ubuntu to a flash drive? Is it possible to just install it? Because it gave me some problems. In fact they even have a utility out there that someone made that installs Linux to a flash drive. So is it even possible to just install Ubuntu to a flash drive or do I have to go through some kind of complicated, special process?
[08:23] <navjot> how to install iso file without burn
[08:23] <Av1> what are .cpio files
[08:23] <arktvrvs> navjot, you dont.
[08:23] <Flannel> !install | Totakeke
[08:24] <Flannel> Totakeke: There's instructions on that page for installing to a drive
[08:24] <Jordan_U> esac_: You can add back the option in your xorg.conf,
[08:24] <navjot> i mounted it but now what
[08:24] <Jordan_U> !synaptics | esac_
[08:24] <udssr_shorty> has someone of u ever undervolted an intel core 2 duo T9300?
[08:24] <alistair_> Help: has anyone tried to install the via drivers - nvidia intel ati radeon i810 via
[08:24] <arktvrvs> navjot, like i said, you wont be able to install, its means to be burned to a cd and booted
[08:25] <Av1> what does .cpio files stan for
[08:25] <Av1> stand for
[08:25] <arktvrvs> Av1, have you tried asking google?
[08:25] <Av1> yeah
[08:25] <Av1> it says binary file
[08:25] <evild_> Im running Ubuntu 8.04. Would anyone be able to tell me how to turn the screensaver off?
[08:26] <jorrit_> Avl, Google is your friend. It mostly works if you have general questions. For really specific ones, it's best to ask a forum, if a query on Google doesn't return anything useful
[08:26] <arktvrvs> googling for "CPIO file"  tells you exactly what it is in the very first link
[08:27] <balz> *punches samba in the face
[08:27] <evild_> I'm running Ubuntu 8.04. Would anyone be able to tell me how to turn the screen saver off?
[08:27] <Jordan_U> evild_: System -> Preferences -> Screensaver uncheck "activate when idle"
[08:27] <evild_> ty
[08:27] <Totakeke> Lol it turns out that the Live USB system creator thing is on the help page for installing Ubuntu to a flash drive
[08:27] <Totakeke> -.-
[08:27] <balz> evild_  Look for display under 'preferances"
[08:28] <Totakeke> At least I know that the Ubuntu people acknowledge that the utility is safe :P
[08:28] <evild_> I got it. Thanks for the help guys.
[08:28] <dinesh_> i am new to linux suggest me some books or websites to learn
[08:28] <Av1> i have downloads oracle 10g and it was is .gz format
[08:28] <Av1> so i unzipped it
[08:28] <balz> dinesh_:  google is the book
[08:29] <Av1> and not it is in .cpio format
[08:29] <Enigma> dinesh_: learning by doing
[08:29] <Jordan_U> Totakeke: If you just want linux easy on a flash drive fedora has a great installer that will even let you keep the files currently on your drive
[08:29] <wols_> dinesh_: help.ubuntu.com tldp.org
[08:29] <balz> Enigma:  word.  I used a fossilized box to learn about ubuntu
[08:29] <dinesh_> avl:actually i have seen lot of books on google and confused which to follow
[08:29] <moazzam> hello. can anyone help me with nvidia drivers
[08:30] <wols_> !anyone | moazzam
[08:30] <Av1> i used this comand cpio idmv file name it waited for a long time but nothing happened
[08:30] <balz> dinesh_:  the problem with books is that they're usually task specific.  you're better off experimenting and opening threads  in forums
[08:30] <moazzam> well... im having problem installing nvidia drivers
[08:31] <wols_> moazzam: you repeat yourself. with the amount of info you gave us no one can help you so far
[08:31] <balz> mozzam:  what kind of card do you have?  you could try envyng if you want the easy way out, but it's not supported officialy
[08:32] <kaiwen> !fedora | Jordan_U
[08:32] <Av1> i used this comand cpio idmv file name it waited for a long time but nothing happened
[08:32] <kaiwen> !envy
[08:32] <moazzam> sorry about that.. i have tried every howto on the net but i still get a blank screen... and my computer hangs (numlock responds after a while).. envy also gave me a black screen
[08:32] <moazzam> im using a Geforce 6200 Agp 8x
[08:33] <wols_> moazzam: have you used envy or envyng?
[08:33] <jorrit_> moazzam: I use the exact same card
[08:33] <jahnkeanater> what is chmod 777
[08:33] <MindVirus> What's the runlevel that reboots the computer?
[08:33] <wols_> !permissions | jahnkeanater
[08:33] <Jordan_U> !permissions | jahnkeanater
[08:33] <wols_> MindVirus: 6. is halt
[08:33] <Av1> there is one problem that i am facing
[08:33] <moazzam> used envy on gutsy ... now i have hardy so i used envyng
[08:33] <Av1> i installed mt ATI graphics card with envy
[08:33] <wols_> moazzam: same install (upgraded)?
[08:34] <moazzam> new install
[08:34] <jorrit_> moazzam: I got it running by starting ubuntu with this parameter: vga=711
[08:34] <Av1> it is not working fine
[08:34] <MindVirus> wols_, which one's user-defined?
[08:34] <mysteriousways> histo, when I try to execute alsamixer as normal user I get a error alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device. But I root the erro does not happen ... What should I do ?
[08:34] <evild_> Anyone know how I would check the system uptime in Ubuntu 8.04?
[08:34] <wols_> Av1: your problem if you botched your ubuntu install. please stop asking about it here
[08:34] <jorrit_> moazzam, sorry: vga=771
[08:34] <wols_> MindVirus: none?
[08:34] <wols_> evild_: "uptime2
[08:34] <evild_> In the terminal?
[08:34] <wols_> yes. *uptime
[08:35] <zeelot> hey guys
[08:35] <moazzam> ohhh and one more thing ... even though my card is AGP lspci returns PCI:1:0:0 as the card address
[08:35] <moazzam> is that normal
[08:35] <wols_> moazzam: that's normal
[08:35] <moazzam> ok
[08:35] <moazzam> thanx
[08:35] <evild_> wols_: Thanks.
[08:35] <wols_> moazzam: check yourg Xorg.0.log
[08:35] <jorrit_> moazzam, when  choosing standard install even the terminal consoles become unreadable) , vga=771 is the fix until you have installed the Binary driver from nvidia from install/ remove programs in your main menu
[08:35] <moazzam> ok
[08:36] <Av1> wols what do you mean?
[08:36] <wols_> Av1: envy KILLS your ubuntu. the end
[08:36] <moazzam> i have tried installing it from the ubuntu repositories as well but the same error occurs
[08:36] <jorrit_> wols_, I think that moazzam can't read that file if he is using the same GPU as I am. Even the text terminals are totally unreadable and stripy without the proper parameter
[08:37] <zeelot> was wondering if you guys could help, trying to use apache2 on ubuntu 8.04, and it works fine but I make an alias to point to /media/data/Websites and it just gives me forbidden error, the directory is on an NTFS partition and I can't seem to chmod or chown the dir so maybe that's the issue? can anyone help?
[08:37] <Av1> so i tried installing it from hardware drivers
[08:37] <Av1> then it stopped working
[08:37] <wols_> zeelot: mount thte NTFS properly. with uid, gid and umask the apache process can read. e.g world readable at least
[08:37] <gonzaloaf_laptop> hi, why does the win+v shortcut just works when I'm in the amarok window? I use ubuntu 8.04
[08:38] <jorrit_> Avl, you might be suffering from an apic ar acpi error, try lapic=no as parameter
[08:38] <zeelot> wols_: where do I change how the drive is mounted?
[08:38] <wols_> zeelot: /etc/fstab for example
[08:38] <jorrit_> Avl, this is suggested when you look under F6 during the fiorst install screen
[08:38] <jorrit_> fiorst => first
[08:38] <housetier> what does "headless" mean WRT some java packages?
[08:39] <zeelot> wols_: thanks
[08:39] <wols_> headless generally means lacking screen, keyboard and often videocard too
[08:40] <lazyPower> exit
[08:40] <housetier> thank you wols
[08:40] <Av1> should i uninstall envy?
[08:40] <Av1> and then reinstall it
[08:41] <wols_> Av1: you can't
[08:41] <Av1> so what do you suggest wols
[08:42] <geirha> ubottu: tell Av1 about envy
[08:44] <djhash> how do you install xmms plugin after "make install"
[08:44] <BigBuddha> i need help with a sound issue--all sound levels are showing maxed out, but in reality audio is at about 45%
[08:45] <jorrit_> Did anyone get the stable version of Koffice working on Ubuntu 8.04?
[08:45] <balz> god damn samba is made of fail
[08:45] <Quiescent> anyone know any good front-ends to xmms?
[08:45] <alistair_> Help: Im a programmer and would like to contribute to Ubuntu where does one go anyone know?
[08:45] <Av1> is there a way of changing settings of graphics card
[08:46] <jorrit_> DCOP complains that it's server isn't running and that certain directories don't exist yet.
[08:46] <Av1> is there a way of changing settings of graphics card
[08:46] <jorrit_> I have just setup the package kdebase
[08:46] <Quiescent> Avl: can you be more specific? Do you want to change resolutions, refresh rates, drivers, wallpaper?
[08:46] <Quiescent> av1: read up there ^^
[08:46] <jorrit_> Avl, what setting do you mean?
[08:46] <Av1> i want to change the anti aliansing setting
[08:47] <alistair_> Av1, yes, but try not to get into editing files use the system options on your menu for safety
[08:47] <Av1> and 3d setings
[08:47] <balz> Av1, what kind of card?
[08:47] <jorrit_> Avl, that can be done from within th nVidia ocntrol panel under Advanced settings.
[08:47] <Av1> but i have ATI card
[08:47] <Av1> not Nvidia
[08:47] <jorrit_> balz, He's using nVidia 6200 GPU
[08:47] <Quiescent> av1: open a terminal and type: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:48] <Flannel> Av1: You should be able to configure it in the default install (the AA anyway)
[08:48] <Quiescent> there is an nvidia control panel for ubuntu?
[08:48] <zeelot> once I change the fstab file, how can I remount the changed partition?
[08:48] <wols_> !Info fglrx-config
[08:48] <Jordan_U> zeelot: sudo mount <device>
[08:48] <Flannel> zeelot: mount -a
[08:48] <wols_> zeelot: unmount it, mount it again
[08:48] <Quiescent> av1: nevermind what i said unless you are looking for desktop cube
[08:48] <jorrit_> Quiescent, yes if you install the binary driver package from within the universe repository
[08:48] <zeelot> thanks
[08:49] <wols_> !nvidia-xconfig
[08:49] <wols_> !info nvidia-xconfig
[08:49] <BigBuddha> how do fix vlc in the terminal?
[08:49] <Quiescent> i should have asked here for help, i never thought about it
[08:49] <Av1> can nvidea package be used for ATI?
[08:50] <wols_> Av1: no
[08:50] <jorrit_> BiBuddha, you can pass lots of command-line parameters to VLC
[08:50] <wols_> BigBuddha: fix what?
[08:50] <Av1> wols what do i use then?
[08:50] <wols_> Av1: depends what you want to change
[08:50] <BigBuddha> wols the sound is faint in vlc
[08:50] <Av1> for changing the graphics setting
[08:50] <Quiescent> i was installing ubuntu on a friends machine and he has an ATI X1300 something or other. it would start up fine but then when you installed the restricted drivers the entire screen would turn white but you could still click around like everything was there, it was just all white
[08:50] <wols_> BigBuddha: check other programs. same faint sound?
[08:50] <Flannel> Av1: Check under preferences, under fonts.  There's a subpixel rendering/anti aliasing config
[08:50] <BigBuddha> wols: just a sec
[08:51] <jorrit_> BigBuddha, choose the option "-volume 512" for instance
[08:51] <Quiescent> after a restart the login screen would come up but once you logged in the same thing would happen and the entire screen would turn white
[08:51] <wols_> Av1: WHAT settings
[08:52] <BigBuddha> jorrit: it is already at 512
[08:52] <mespejel> hello one question.. if install xfce to ubuntu.. would be the same as xubuntu? will look the same?
[08:52] <Jordan_U> Quiescent: Sounds like a compiz problem, try disabling compiz
[08:52] <Flannel> mespejel: Yes, install xubuntu-desktop
[08:52] <Quiescent> also, i still can't figure out how to install the latest flash 10 release candidate in firefox on 64-bit ubuntu 8.04
[08:52] <jorrit_> BigBuddha, does this only occur within VLC? No other programs having trouble with sound?
[08:52] <wols_> mespejel: if yu install xubuntu-desktop. some gnome remnants might be in RAM still, some gnome programs loaded in background basically
[08:52] <BigBuddha> jorrit_:  i am trying out amarok now
[08:53] <mespejel> i see
[08:53] <Jordan_U> Quiescent: Thought the compiz problem would be a direct result of driver problems
[08:53] <wols_> Quiescent: there is no 64bit flash
[08:53] <Quiescent> Jordan_U, that's the thing, it wasn't enabled to begin with. I even tried uninstalling it through the package manager but it still just gave a white screen
[08:53] <Flannel> wols_: Not when you log in to xfce, no.
[08:53] <jorrit_> BigBuddha, linux has lots of sound-daemons, your problem may be tied to the one VLC is currently using
[08:53] <BigBuddha> jorrit_: it is only in vlc
[08:53] <wols_> Flannel: not even background stuff, like hal, dbus or whatever?
[08:53] <Av1>  Av1: Check under preferences, under fonts.  There's a subpixel rendering/anti aliasing configv
[08:53] <mespejel> so pure xubuntu may be still faster than ubuntu with xfce
[08:53] <mespejel> ?
[08:53] <Av1> Flannel: cant find it
[08:53] <Quiescent> wols_, i know but there is some way that you could install the beta using nswrapperplugin, it just won't work for the latest version
[08:53] <wols_> mespejel: very minor
[08:54] <mespejel> ok
[08:54] <Jordan_U> Quiescent: Did you remove compiz or compiz-fusion from synaptic?
[08:54] <BigBuddha> jorrit_: how can i correct that?
[08:54] <Flannel> Av1: What version of Ubuntu are you running?
[08:54] <Av1> 8.04
[08:54] <Flannel> Av1: And you do, or don't have a fonts menu item under preferences?
[08:54] <mysteriousways> histo, when I try to execute alsamixer as normal user I get a error alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device. But as root the erro does not happen ... What should I do ?
[08:54] <Quiescent> jordan_u, now i can't remember. i'm pretty sure i did "sudo apt-get remove compiz"
[08:54] <jorrit_> BigBuddha, I'm not sure it might be in VLC´s settings for output. Normally all Ubuntu programs use ESD as sound-daemon
[08:54] <ay^> I want to download directories containing files recursively through sftp, is that somehow possible?
[08:55] <Ontolog> I'm so fvcking sick of Flash stuff crashing Firefox!!!!
[08:55] <Ontolog> When will this madness end
[08:55] <Flannel> Ontolog: No need for language
[08:55] <Quiescent> ontolog: same here
[08:55] <Av1> Flannel: i donthae it
[08:55] <Jordan_U> Quiescent: If you just removed compiz-fusion that would only remove the extra plugins, that's why I ask
[08:55] <BigBuddha> hmm, jorrit_ thank you, i will tinker around and get back to you
[08:55] <jorrit_> BigBuddha, np
[08:55] <Ontolog> I installed the libflashsupport plugin, same result
[08:55] <Ontolog> nothing works
[08:55] <Ontolog> god, we're at FF3.0 and still having Flash crash the browser
[08:55] <jorrit_> Can anyone help to get Koffice 1.63 working in Ubuntu?
[08:55] <Flannel> Ontolog: Write a letter to macrodobe, or support gnash.
[08:56] <wols_> !errors | jorrit_
[08:56] <jorrit_> Can anyone help to get Koffice 1.63 working in Ubuntu 8.04?
[08:56] <Quiescent> jordan_u, eh, i just reinstalled ubuntu because I couldn't figure out how to remove the restricted drivers using only bash and made sure not to install them after i reinstalled ubuntu.
[08:56] <Av1> Flannel: i dont have fonts option
[08:56] <Ontolog> Why is it *crashing* FF, FF should not *crash*
[08:56] <Quiescent> Ontolog: install Flash 10 Release Candidate
[08:56] <Ontolog> the crashing part is FFs fault
[08:56] <Ontolog> Quiescent: I'll check it out
[08:56] <Flannel> Av1: Interesting.  Maybe its only available if the driver supports it.
[08:56] <Dillo_of_Faeo> hey all.  Is there a way to do window transparency with just x11?
[08:56] <wols_> Ontolog: of course it should. if flash makes a boboo, ffox crashes since plugin in browser run in the same address space
[08:57] <Av1> Flannel: should i remove envy
[08:57] <Ontolog> wols_: your saying FF should not recover from a plugin doing something stupid?
[08:57] <Av1> and try to install hardware drivers
[08:57] <Quiescent> ontolog: that's what i did on my 32-bit system and it doesn't crash anymore, it's a little whacky though. can't get it to work on 64-bit systems even though there is supposed to be some plugin wrapper that does it
[08:57] <vlad> всем привет
[08:57] <Flannel> !ru | vlad
[08:58] <Jordan_U> Quiescent: For future reference just rebooting into "recovery mode" and choosing "Fix X" would have disabled the restricted drivers, and to remove them completely would be sudo apt-get remove xorg-driver-fglrx ( you can search for packages in the terminal with apt-cache search )
[08:58] <Ontolog> Quiescent: is this a package in Ubuntu or do I have to dl it separate?
[08:59] <Av1> Flannel: should i remove envy and then try to install hardware drivers
[08:59] <Quiescent> ontolog: get the tar.gz from adobe's flash 10 website here: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/ then if you look around online there is a tutorial that shows you how to install it specifically on ubuntu 8.04
[08:59] <Flannel> Av1: Removing envy won't remove the stuff its done.  But apart from that, I'm not sure what ATI drivers support, so I have no idea
[09:00] <Quiescent> jordan_u, thanks, i'll keep that in mind for next time. I've only been using Linux for a couple of months now so I don't really know my way around yet
[09:00] <Av1> Flannel: thanks for your help
[09:00] <jorrit_> I'm trying to get KOffice 1.63 working on Ubuntu 8.04. I have installed kdebase 3.5.9-4Ubuntu and whenever I try to start a Koffice program, such as kivio, it gives me the following error: see pastebin: http://pastebin.ca/1180472
[09:01] <Av1> so its not posible to remove Envy once you have installed it?
[09:02] <BigBuddha> jorrit_: i cant make heads or tails of it mate
[09:02] <Av1> is it not possible to remove ENvy once itis installed
[09:02] <jorrit_> Avl, a colleage of mine got even compiz working on an ATI card, so there should be proper drivers for it. My colleague did spend a lot of time figuring out how to get that ARadeon working on Centos 5.2
[09:03] <mysteriousways> mysteriousways@mysteriosways-laptop:~$ aplay -l aplay: device_list:204: nenhuma placa de som encontrada... (No sound card found) mysteriousways@mysteriosways-laptop:~$ sudo aplay -l**** Lista de Dispositivos PLAYBACK Hardware ****placa 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], dispositivo 0: ALC260 Analog [ALC260 Analog]  Dispositivo secundário: 1/1  Dispositivo secundário #0: subdevice #0placa 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], dispositivo 1: ALC260 Digital [ALC260 Digital]  Disp
[09:03] <mysteriousways> ositivo secundário: 1/1  Dispositivo secundário #0: subdevice #0placa 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], dispositivo 6: Si3054 Modem [Si3054 Modem]  Dispositivo secundário: 1/1
[09:03] <jorrit_> BigBuddha, are you referring to VLC and sound-daemons?
[09:03] <BigBuddha> jorrit_: aye
[09:03] <kaiwen> Av1 apt-get purge envy
[09:03] <hahahehe> does ubuntu hardy come with firewall enabled by default?
[09:03] <mysteriousways> a normal user don't have permission to use sound, how can I give permission to normal users use the sound
[09:03] <kaiwen> hahahehe aptget install firestarter
[09:04] <kaiwen> hahahehe no, it doesn't firestarter is the firewall most ppl use
[09:04] <hahahehe> so no firewall by default?
[09:04] <abchirk> mysteriousways adding them to the group audio
[09:04] <hahahehe> basically, i dont want any firewalls
[09:04] <kaiwen> hahahehe, no but it's not that hard to install, search firestarter in synaptic, real  easy to use
[09:04] <Av1> kaiwen: i should remove the driver before purging it
[09:04] <mysteriousways> firestarter is only a front end to iptables
[09:04] <hahahehe> i want my system to be exposed to the whole world
[09:04] <kaiwen> mysteriousways, noob friendly
[09:04] <hahahehe> well i dont want a firewalll
[09:04] <hahahehe> so how do i disable it?
[09:04] <jorrit_> BigBuddha, this may help you: Go in VLC to Preferences -> Audio -> Output modules
[09:05] <kaiwen> hahahehe, well it's disabled
[09:05] <mysteriousways> and ubuntu comes with iptables by default, but you need to setup the rules
[09:05] <kaiwen> by guys
[09:05] <BigBuddha> jorrit_:   ok
[09:05] <kaiwen> finals tom.
[09:05] <hahahehe> how do i disable iptables
[09:05] <hahahehe> i think thats whats blocking my access
[09:05] <Av1> kaiwen:
[09:05] <jorrit_> BigBuddha, if everything is allright, you should setting for both ALSA and OSS, different sound-daemons ;-)
[09:05] <BigBuddha> jorrit_:  i am there
[09:05] <Av1> should i remove drivers before purgin Envy
[09:06] <hahahehe> basically, i want to be exposed naked as a virgin
[09:06] <hahahehe> how can i do so?
[09:06] <jorrit_> BigBuddha, ^^
[09:06] <milligan_> hahahehe, iptables -F
[09:06] <Flannel> hahahehe: For what purpose?
[09:06] <Theaxiom> Hey guys, I installed ubuntu as dual-boot with vista, I realized after installing ubuntu that I installed i386 instead of x64. So from Vista I deleted the ubuntu partition, and burned a corrupt ubuntu x64 disk. Now I can not boot into vista because grub is broken. How can I fix grub so I can boot into vista again?
[09:06] <BigBuddha> jorrit_:  alsa is 'default' and OSS is '/dev/dsp'
[09:06] <mysteriousways> i don't have a adui group abchirk
[09:06] <balz> anybody have experience setting up mt-daapd to host a music share on an ubuntu box?
[09:07] <mysteriousways> i don't have a audio group abchirk
[09:07] <Theaxiom> I need to boot into vista to burn a good copy of ubuntu x64...
[09:07] <vega--> hahahehe: use some graphical frontend, firestarter or such, if you don't know iptables well enough
[09:07] <jorrit_> BigBuddha, if you try setting it to OSS and you get a different sound output, then you might look into the ALSA settings.
[09:07] <Ontolog> Quiescent: awesome, works, thanks
[09:07] <jorrit_> BigBuddha, this way you can pinpoint the source of the incident
[09:08] <BigBuddha> kk
[09:08] <Av1> thank you everyone for yuor help
[09:08] <milligan_> hahahehe, I'll repeat .. type in, as root: iptables -F . The -F stands for flush, and will clear out all your rules, leaving you wide open.
[09:08] <Av1> your help
[09:08] <balz> what's the linux version of bonjour called again/
[09:08] <jorrit_> Avl, np
[09:08] <balz> ?
[09:08] <cemc> hi. i have a gnome configured on one ubuntu box, and i would like to copy that configuration to another. what files/directories do i have to copy ?
[09:08] <abchirk> mysteriousways hm
[09:08] <Theaxiom> Does anyone here know how to fix a broken grub boot-loader?
[09:08] <Flannel> !grub | Theaxiom, first link
[09:08] <Av1> will come and trouble u later on
[09:08] <balz> !bonjour
[09:08] <Theaxiom> Flannel: Thanks
[09:09] <Quiescent> balz: what is the purpose of bonjour?
[09:09] <abchirk> mysteriousways but you can listen to sound with your standard user?
[09:09] <vlad> привет
[09:09] <balz> Quiescent:  honestly... no idea.  I just know mt-daapd needs it to host a music share
[09:09] <Flannel> balz: Avahi
[09:09] <Flannel> balz: its a zeroconf sort of thing
[09:09] <Flannel> !ru | vlad
[09:09] <hahahehe> what is apparmor
[09:09] <mysteriousways> abchirk, with a standar user no, only as root
[09:09] <balz> Flannel:  that's it!  what's zeroconf?
[09:09] <jorrit_> mysteriousways, try to see if /dev/dsp is writable for the user you have problems with
[09:10] <Quiescent> lol, alright
[09:10] <mysteriousways> jorrit_, how can I check it ? chmod ?
[09:10] <Flannel> balz: zero conf is a service discovery... thing.  You can figure out what stuff on your network can do, so you don't have to manually say "I want to find a printer" or in your case "I want to find my music share"
[09:10] <jorrit_> mysteriousways, no chmod, just ls -la
[09:10] <abchirk> or the group pulse?
[09:10] <abchirk> @ mysteriousways
[09:10] <balz> oh i see. cool cool
[09:11] <balz> Flannel:  what's the avahi package name?
[09:11] <Flannel> balz: Its installed by default... but I have no idea.  search for avahi.  probably like avahi-daemon?
[09:11] <wols_> balz: avahi-daemon
[09:12] <DIFH-iceroot> balz: sudo apt-cache search avahi
[09:12] <balz> wols_, flannel:  thanks much
[09:12] <hahahehe> how do i find out all the ports i have open
[09:12] <pr0fane> hey
[09:12] <mysteriousways> crw-rw-rw- 1 root audio 14, 3 2008-08-19 14:04 /dev/dsp jorrit_
[09:12] <Flannel> hahahehe: What are you trying to do?
[09:12] <pr0fane> How to find out my x version?
[09:12] <wols_> hahahehe: sudo netstat -anp |grep LIST
[09:12] <Kirann> hahahehe: netstat -ntlp
[09:12] <wols_> pr0fane: dpkg -l |grep xserver-xorg
[09:12] <balz> Flannel:  i'm on mythbuntu, so a lot of stuff isn't installed by default
[09:13] <wols_> balz: avahi is a good thing to miss :)
[09:13] <jorrit_> mysteriousways, if it is owned by the group audio, your problem should be solved by making the the faulty user a member of the audio group
[09:13] <balz> wols_, ain't that the truth =)
[09:13] <balz> Does anybody know where the mt-daapd config file is located?
[09:13] <wols_> balz: /etc as everything. that'S policy
[09:14] <pr0fane> thx man
[09:14] <mysteriousways> jorrit_, but I don't have a group called audio, should I creat one ?
[09:14] <balz> wols_:  sorry... my n00bness is displaying itself.  You're saying /etc/mt-daapd.conf ?
[09:14] <jorrit_> mysteriousways, if you don't have a group audio you ca opt to create one, but the default one is probably "pulse"
[09:14] <wols_> balz: no I said inside /etc as all config files (systemwide) are supposed to be
[09:15] <jorrit_> jorrit, abchirk was so kind to point that out
[09:15] <jorrit_> mysteriousways, , abchirk was so kind to point that out
[09:15] <balz> wols_ okay let me have a look... how do you search again?
[09:15] <abchirk> hehe
[09:15] <Dillo_of_Faeo> why would my xorg.conf show "Configured Video Device" and "Configured Monitor"?
[09:15] <wols_> balz: find, locate,...
[09:15] <balz> nvm. found it
[09:16] <wols_> Dillo_of_Faeo: why wouldn't it?
[09:16] <mysteriousways> jorrit_, I saw, and tks abchirk for that ... but i also don't have a group called pulse
[09:16] <mysteriousways> I creat a group called audio
[09:16] <mysteriousways> and i will test
[09:17] <jorrit_> mysteriousways, that doesn't work if your user is not a member yet.
[09:17] <abchirk> hm strange :P mysteriousways what does ls -l /dev/audio or ls -l /dev/dsp say?
[09:17] <jorrit_> mysteriousways, of the group audio I amean
[09:18] <mysteriousways> jorrit_, I creat a group called audio, I add the user to it, and as you said it dont work
[09:19] <mysteriousways> crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 4 2008-08-19 14:04 /dev/audio and crw-rw-rw- 1 root audio 14, 3 2008-08-19 14:04 /dev/dsp abchirk
[09:19] <wols_> is your user partof group "audio"?
[09:20] <abchirk> hm but the standard groups are right. Maybe you should add again a group called audio. But you have to relogin if you add your user to group audio
[09:20] <mysteriousways> wols_, I just creat the group audio, and add the user to it, and still don't work
[09:20] <abchirk> mysteriousways relogin
[09:20] <mysteriousways> ok
[09:20] <SAngeli> Does anyone know how to migrate my mail from kmail into a compatible mail format for Windows mail or outlook under windows os?
[09:20] <wols_> mysteriousways: you need to relogin
[09:20] <MeVsTheVoices> Is there an application for ubuntu that will monitor a folder an encrypt its contents?
[09:20] <jorrit_> SAngeli, try Thunderbird as an inermediate
[09:22] <vincentyy> this is my first time being here
[09:22] <balz> && runs two separate commands from the same input, right?
[09:22] <Cheiron> Maybe you meant: . ? @ v
[09:22] <Lynx_> Hi all! Is there a way to find out how busy the harddisk is, a measure like % CPU usage?
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[09:22] <abchirk> hey ActionParsnip
[09:22] <jorrit_> SAngeli, http://email.about.com/od/mozillathunderbirdtips/qt/et_export_to_oe.htm
[09:23] <MeVsTheVoices> Is there an application for ubuntu that will monitor a folder an encrypt its contents?
[09:23] <abchirk> !patience MeVsTheVoices
[09:23] <mysteriousways> it is so beaultfull the "clik clek ton tun" ak the load of desktop ... tks guys, the sound is back
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> MeVsTheVoices: you could create a partition using encryptfs
[09:23] <mysteriousways> :)
[09:23] <jorrit_> lol
[09:23] <SAngeli> jorrit_, thks
[09:23] <jorrit_> SAngeli, np
[09:24] <MeVsTheVoices> Thank you, I was being patient, one word answer would have been sufficient, thank you again muchly
[09:24] <jorrit_> SAngeli, but are you sure? Thunderbird is much better as a mail program than OE will ever be.
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> MeVsTheVoices: np man
[09:24] <MeVsTheVoices> Is that ok for solid state, or optimized I should say?
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> jorrit_: im sure both have advantages
[09:24] <SAngeli> jorrit_, it is just for a user that does not need any fancy programs
[09:25] <jorrit_> SAngeli, OK, it's their loss.
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> MeVsTheVoices: it can be compiled to optomise to your liking but i dont think anything can be optomised for solid state
[09:26] <MeVsTheVoices> You can, mainly if your using as a boot partion though, Thanks again ActionParsnip
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> MeVsTheVoices: just find some space (or usb stick) format it encryptfs and all the data will be encrypted
[09:26] <MeVsTheVoices> Twas about to
[09:26] <MeVsTheVoices> tyty
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> MeVsTheVoices: can you send me a link to this optomisation please/
[09:26] <naughtykid001> *newbie warning* I found that copy file using usb pendrive is a lot faster than windows, is that true?
[09:27] <ActionParsnip> naughtykid001: copying file in what way?
[09:27] <jorrit_> naughtykid001, just be sure to umount it befor you unplug your stick, or you might loose files.
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> naughtykid001: oh you mean usb pendrive access is faster?
[09:28] <MeVsTheVoices> Its separate, some filesystems are just optimized to take more advantage of linear disk geometry, ext3 for example is set for hard disks while others are not
[09:28] <MeVsTheVoices> For, NTFS is actualy faster than Ext on a solid state, because ext goes on how little it has to move the head to get full files
[09:29] <galleta_> hi
[09:29] <galleta_> i need help please
[09:29] <MeVsTheVoices> ActionParsnip: thank you again
[09:29] <DIFH-iceroot> is there a good guide for optimizing a ubuntu-system if i am using SSD? so that the SSD will not be used to often for writing (cache size, write the date of access to a file and so on)
[09:29] <galleta_> can someone help me with same problem i have
[09:29] <galleta_> i just install ubuntus
[09:30] <jorrit_> galleta, just describe your problem
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> DIFH-iceroot: have another stick (if you can) for your home folder
[09:30] <galleta_> i want to know if someone help me with my sound card
[09:30] <galleta_> its not working under ubuntus
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> !sound | galleta
[09:30] <jorrit_> galleta, please be specific,
[09:30] <DIFH-iceroot> ActionParsnip: i have / on the SSD and /home + swap on a SD card
[09:30] <bullgard4> What is an ALSA_Sequencer? (appears in Device Manager: "Device file: /dev/snd/seq").
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> DIFH-iceroot: so you are using 2 cards?
[09:31] <dbl17z> hello everyone..
[09:31] <jorrit_> galleta, Waht audiocard are you using?
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> !hi | dbl17z
[09:31] <DIFH-iceroot> ActionParsnip: eeepc 4GB version, the internal SSD is / and the home is SD card (16GB)
[09:31] <abcZ> ?
[09:31] <dbl17z> I am having issues with fglrx drivers
[09:31] <galleta_> im very specific
[09:31] <galleta_> is just not working i cant listen any music
[09:31] <galleta_> or youtube
[09:31] <galleta_> nothing
[09:32] <jorrit_> galleta, what is your audio hardware?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> DIFH-iceroot: thats cool, the home dir gets written to lots, and your backup will enable you to restore when the card wears out
[09:32] <jorrit_> galleta, is it SB Audigy2?
[09:32] <galleta_> i dont know my friend
[09:32] <galleta_> how can i check that
[09:32] <dbl17z> I am using a Dell Inspiron 9200.. Whats happeneing is that if I switch from to vterm or restart x with ctrl+alt+bksp it locks up.
[09:32] <jorrit_> galleta, try /proc/lspci
[09:32] <DIFH-iceroot> ActionParsnip: yes and i can easily plugin my /home into another pc
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> dbl17z: wassup with your ati card
[09:32] <dbl17z> I wanted to swith to the opensource drivers for ATI
[09:33] <jorrit_> galleta, just type lspci
[09:33] <dbl17z> The closed source binary for the card make it act all wonky
[09:33] <DIFH-iceroot> ActionParsnip: but if i am correct linux/ubuntu is writting every access to a file on the drive
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> dbl17z: tried envy?
[09:33] <dbl17z> I just wanted to know the name for the opensource drivers to install them.
[09:33] <dbl17z> envy is the name of the drivers ActionParsnip ?
[09:33] <galleta_> jorrit not working
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> dbl17z: im not knowledgable of that, sorry
[09:33] <galleta_>  /proc/lspci
[09:33] <galleta_> not working
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> dbl17z: its an app to install drivers
[09:34] <jorrit_> galleta, become root first
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> dbl17z: sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk
[09:34] <jorrit_> galleta, try sudo -s and afterwards type your password
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> jorrit_: users can run lspci
[09:34] <jorrit_> ActionParsnip, thanks for the correction
[09:34] <galleta_> yes
[09:34] <galleta_> is there
[09:35] <galleta_> but its a lot of information, i need to see which is my card
[09:35] <galleta_> wait
[09:35] <jorrit_> galleta, I meant try lspci, with /proc
[09:35] <dbl17z> o.. the drivers are installed, they work when I am in gnome, but just when I try to switch between vterms
[09:35] <dbl17z> Its annoying
[09:35] <galleta_> lspci /proc?
[09:35] <galleta_> like this?
[09:35] <jorrit_> galleta, Sorry for the confusion, just try lspci without anything else
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: in all that text a line will detaill your sound card
[09:36] <galleta_> ok
[09:36] <galleta_> i trying
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: find the line and paste it in here (ONLY that line too)
[09:36] <jorrit_> ActionParsnip, lol
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> mind you, floodbot protects us :)
[09:36] <galleta_> Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 04)
[09:36] <jorrit_> galleta, if you can't find the line, use this pastebin: http://www.pastebin.ca/
[09:37] <aj_> has anyone used postgre SQL on ubuntu
[09:37] <tyler> hey i get an error when i try to start synaptic manager to download programs...it wont open and says unable to copy the users Xauthorization...failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user root
[09:37] <DIFH-iceroot> aj_: yes, what is your question?
[09:37] <jorrit_> aj_, I have installed it without problems, why?
[09:37] <dbl17z> ActionParsnip: I installed envy.. testing it out now.
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> tyler: gksu synaptic_installer
[09:37] <galleta_> This is the line I found: Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 04)
[09:37] <dbl17z> Thanks in advanced
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> !envy | dbl17z
[09:38] <jorrit_> galleta, lookup your sound card in the Ubuntu compatibility DB
[09:38] <dbl17z> ok
[09:38] <galleta_> where?
[09:38] <dbl17z> rebooting now..
[09:38] <galleta_> what is DB?
[09:38] <dbl17z> wish me luck on this..
[09:38] <dbl17z> ATI is a PAIN !!
[09:38] <aj_> DIFH-iceroot: how do i create a server and access it
[09:38] <jorrit_> galleta, You might have a chipset that is too new to have any open source drivers for it yet. Then again, Intel might have provided them
[09:39] <jorrit_> galleta, DB = Database
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: some dude followed this to make his work http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Ubuntu_7.10_(Gutsy_Gibbon)_Tribe_5_on_a_ThinkPad_T61#Audio
[09:39] <abcZ> how to install webcam a?
[09:39] <DIFH-iceroot> aj_: sudo apt-get install postgresql
[09:40] <DIFH-iceroot> aj_: thats it
[09:40] <galleta_> action what is tthat? i couldnt see anything
[09:40] <galleta_> blue screen
[09:40] <galleta_> jorrit can you teach me how to go to database please
[09:40] <galleta_> i dont know how
[09:40] <balz> my mt-daapd share isn't showing up in itunes... i don't even know where to start. i can provide the config file if needed... any help?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: run alsamixer in terminal. Is the sound muted?
[09:41] <aj_> DIFH-iceroot : ok..thanx..done...how do i run and access it now??
[09:41] <jorrit_> galleta, please check out the Ubuntu hompage before asking this general question.
[09:41] <wols_> aj_: you run it with /etc/init.d/ script (done by default) and access it via unix socket
[09:41] <DIFH-iceroot> aj_: /etc/init.d/postgresql start or something like that for staring the server
[09:41] <galleta_> it does not appear as muted
[09:41] <galleta_> action
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: you can press tab to complete peoples names dude
[09:42] <chronographer> hi i have a new pc and ubuntu can't see the new hdd. I partitioned it with gparted live cd, fine,  is there any way I can test to see if it is workable?
[09:42] <DIFH-iceroot> aj_: for access look at the postgresql manual
[09:42] <jorrit_> aj_, if you want to access it remotely through TCP-IP, you have to open the server for that in the config files
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: ok have you run your updates yet?
[09:42] <wols_> chronographer: sudo fdisk -l
[09:42] <galleta_> yes
[09:42] <galleta_> i did
[09:42] <wols_> aj_: but doing so is a bad idea generally
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: run that line
[09:43] <chronographer> the installer and also gparted on the ubuntu live cd see nothing... sudo fdisk -l outputs nothing
[09:43] <jorrit_> wols, It was the only way I could access it remotely through JDBC
[09:43] <wols_> chronographer: if it outputs nothing, you don't run ubuntu
[09:43] <chronographer> really...
[09:43] <havocstorm> Can anyone recommend any good ubuntu programs?
[09:43] <galleta_> all lines together?? or sudp apt-get update first.. then the second then the third one?
[09:43] <chronographer> is it the hsdd?
[09:43] <chronographer> *hdd
[09:43] <aj_> wols_: do u have any other option then?
[09:43] <DIFH-iceroot> havocstorm: for what?
[09:43] <chronographer> I can put another hdd in
[09:43] <wols_> jorrit_: sure. it'S still a bad idea. DBs should never be accessible from outside/the internet if you can help it
[09:43] <jorrit_> wols, if you know of a way to use a Unix socket for JDBC instead, I'd be interested
[09:43] <havocstorm> DIFH-iceroot, anything really
[09:44] <DIFH-iceroot> havocstorm: ...
[09:44] <DFggf9879se7f7> How can one use samba to share a folder with Windouze so that everybody has all rights and no authentication is required?
[09:44] <hateball> !best | havocstorm
[09:44] <dog12345> test
[09:44] <wols_> jorrit_: if the jdbc runs on the same host you can listen on localhsot only for postgres
[09:44] <havocstorm> DIFH-iceroot, well general computing, but I'm also looking for something like MS onenote on ubuntu, beside bsketnotes
[09:44] <jorrit_> wols, my VPS is not powerful enough to run Tomcat
[09:44] <wols_> havocstorm: packages.ubuntu.com has TONs of good programs
[09:44] <chronographer> wols, iwll a different hdd have a different affect? will ubuntu se it?
[09:44] <DIFH-iceroot> havocstorm: i dont know ms onenote
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: copy the line I typed and paste to the terminal
[09:45] <wols_> chronographer: check dmesg. is any hdd visible there?
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: each command will run in turn'
[09:45] <chronographer> dmesg
[09:45] <havocstorm> wols_, thhanks
[09:45] <galleta_> i did
[09:45] <galleta_> i did the 3 anyway
[09:45] <wols_> chronographer: if you partitioned with live cd and it worked then it will show up in sudo fdisk -l
[09:45] <galleta_> already
[09:45] <galleta_> don
[09:45] <galleta_> done
[09:45] <FloodBot1> galleta_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:45] <wols_> !enter | galleta_
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: is it downloading a tonne of stuff?
[09:46] <jorrit_> ActionParsnip, lol
[09:46] <galleta_> it did a bit, but already finish
[09:46] <chronographer> it says program parted devices is using deprecated scsi ...  is that important?
[09:46] <galleta_> but the last 2 it apperas as no upgrades
[09:46] <galleta_> ActionParsnip: What is the next step.
[09:47] <wols_> chronographer: that's gibberish
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: ok apparently some dude fixed it compiling the driver from the realtek site
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: are you on a laptop or a desktop?\
[09:47] <wols_> "program parted devices" is just nonsense
[09:47] <galleta_> ActionParsnip: Laptop
[09:47] <chronographer> ok... i see no hdd mentioned
[09:47] <wols_> andatche: realtek 8187b?
[09:47] <chronographer> or sdd ...
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: what make and model?
[09:47] <wols_> chronographer: pastein
[09:47] <wols_> *pastebin
[09:48] <galleta_> ActionParsnip: Macbook Black 2.4 duo
[09:48] <chronographer> its not really conected... wait a bit i'll get a usb
[09:48] <jorrit_> galleta, http://www.pastebin.ca/
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: wow you got money to burn...gimme a sec
[09:48] <balz> Anybody know why my firefly (mt-daapd) share won't show up in itunes?  I can't find any offending line in the config file... i've tried configuring through the webUI as well
[09:48] <wols_> balz: not enough info given to help
[09:48] <galleta_> ActionParsnip: lol, ok i wait
[09:49] <balz> wols_:  more than happy to provide more.  I'm not sure what needs to be known =)
[09:49] <balz> I can provide the config file if necessary...
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: theres a whole section on sound
[09:50] <wols_> errors for starters
[09:50] <galleta_> ActionParsnip: I Know, thats why i come here. It does not work.
[09:50] <Bobo_PK> wow it works im in
[09:50] <chronographer> http://pastebin.com/m58bae37
[09:50] <Bobo_PK> anybody there?
[09:50] <chronographer> I hope it can work!
[09:50] <balz> bobo_pK  aks away
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> Bobo_PK: hi, im here, theres always people here
[09:51] <Bobo_PK> cool, i need help... as you might guess
[09:51] <wols_> chronographer: how is the hdd connected?
[09:51] <chronographer> sata i think
[09:51] <wols_> chronographer: and is this the ONLY hdd?
[09:51] <chronographer> yep
[09:51] <wols_> chronographer: internal hdd?
[09:52] <galleta_> ActionParsnip: I want to contact the guy who did it. And there are no comments to see if is working for other people or not.
[09:52] <chronographer> like i said, gparted live cd saw it
[09:52] <chronographer> yep
[09:52] <wols_> chronographer: what hdd controller?
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=198453
[09:52] <chronographer> i dont know
[09:52] <Bobo_PK> I got ubuntu like 2 weeks on my laptop and normally my firends helping me.. but he cant right now
[09:52] <wols_> chronographer: then find out
[09:52] <chronographer> i dont know how!
[09:52] <Bobo_PK> could some 1 explain how to get a wlan stick work on 7.1 ?
[09:53] <wols_> chronographer: lspci
[09:53] <wols_> !wireless | Bobo_PK
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: as you found that page you should be able to find more, I dont use any of apples rubbish but im sure there are a million pages out there of people sticking Linux on their macbook
[09:53] <chronographer> k
[09:53] <galleta_> yeah
[09:53] <naughtykid001> ActionParsnip: normal copying from pc to pendrive. Tested 2 methods, one is large file and another one is small file(but a lot of files). Both tested is faster than xp
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> Bobo_PK: plug it in and run lspci and lsusb
[09:53] <galleta_> ActionParsnip: thanks, i will try to do my research.
[09:53] <galleta_> I really want to make xubuntu works under this magnificient machine..
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> naughtykid001its all down to config and drivers dude
[09:53] <Bobo_PK> ok let me try lsusb says that there is some thing pluged in
[09:54] <galleta_> ActionParsnip: Xubuntu is botting in 25 seconds in macbook.
[09:54] <chronographer> intel ICH10 4 port and another 2 port
[09:54] <tary> hi
[09:54] <galleta_> Almost the same as leopard.
[09:54] <marenostrum> Hello. With WildMidi, I can not use option "n" (Next Midi) . What I try to do is, to press "n" while I am playing a midi file in a directory, I suppose the next file in the directory will be played. But instead, WildMidi shuts down. Am I doing something wrong?
[09:54] <Bobo_PK> lspci says that tehre is a wireless thing
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> galleta_ i prefer fluxbox
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> Bobo_PK: ok, what does it say it is?
[09:55] <chronographer> wols: its plugged into the intel ICH10 6 port sata hub
[09:55] <galleta_> fluxbox is super lightweight but
[09:55] <galleta_> xfce as well..
[09:55] <galleta_> xfce is more complete i mean is not only a windows manager..
[09:55] <blackZero> Hi..I am new to BT..I downloaded latest .ISO. now when i boot my system with this CD..I get a Log in prompt..But i am unable to enter username..when i do..I get "unable to determine tty type" error. I tried searching around on net and BT forums..but to no avail..I would appreciate If someone could help me with this.
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> oh totally, and blackbox too, theres tonnes of lightweight DEs
[09:55] <chronographer> er... an array of 6, composed of one 2 and one 4 port
[09:55] <galleta_> i may try it someday
[09:56] <galleta_> anyway,, i need to work a lot with this
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> blackZero: did you md5 check the image?
[09:56] <galleta_> see you later guys
[09:56] <blackZero> yes..its all good..
[09:56] <Bobo_PK> ok lspci says nothing about the usb.. the lsusb says Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0ace:1215 ZyDAS
[09:56] <jorrit_> galleta, good luck!
[09:56] <blackZero> I was even able to boot it in VMware
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> Bobo_PK: is that the whole line?
[09:57] <Bobo_PK> thats was lsusb is telling me yes...
[09:57] <havocstorm> hey guys, I've installed wine, how to I install programs to run under it?
[09:57] <chronographer> wols: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5607010   ... I might have to download intrepid... and hope for the best!
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> Bobo_PK:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92327
[09:58] <Bobo_PK> Thx ill read and try my best. damm i hate people like me who dont ask google...
[09:58] <havocstorm> hey guys, I've installed wine, how to I install programs to run under it?
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> Bobo_PK: i use many search engines. google misses some decent sites sometimes
[09:59] <bullgard4> What is an ALSA_Sequencer? (appears in Device Manager: "Device file: /dev/snd/seq").
[09:59] <ActionParsnip> havocstorm: wine /path/to/setup.exe
[09:59] <DIFH-iceroot> havocstorm: just click on a *.exe file and wine runs it automaticly
[09:59] <ikonia> bullgard4: audio sequencer for alsa
[09:59] <DIFH-iceroot> havocstorm: or wine programname.exe
[09:59] <Bobo_PK> holymoly that looks complicated..
[09:59] <marenostrum> havocstodm, as I know far you just doubleclick exe files and they are installed.
[09:59] <Bobo_PK> well ok ill do it step by step..
[09:59] <bullgard4> ikonia: hm
[10:00] <havocstorm> hmm, I installed wine but the exes don't seem to work
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> Bobo_PK: best way :)
[10:00] <havocstorm> I'll try the command lines
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> havocstorm: best way :)
[10:00] <balz> Additional information regarding my mt-daapd share:  I can now connect with itunes, but no files are being served.  i double checked and the directory is correct.  I did a few hundred full scans... what gives?
[10:00] <Bobo_PK> i think i have to change the comands from 1211 to 1215 like mine is
[10:00] <Bobo_PK> ?
[10:00] <balz> does mt-daapd scan folders recursively?
[10:00] <Bobo_PK> sounds logical
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> Bobo_PK: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/zydas_zd1211#Installation%20Instructions
[10:01] <marenostrum> havocstorm : try google ubuntu+wine
[10:01] <jorrit_> I am going to grab a bite, see you later!
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> Bobo_PK: the above link looks simpler
[10:01] <ActionParsnip> Bobo_PK: by far
[10:01] <havocstorm> marenostrum, ok
[10:01] <Bobo_PK> xyep.. argh i need network connection.. *pulljng the wire *
[10:02] <havocstorm> I think I downloaded the wrong version, the exe says iTunes64
[10:02] <ikonia> havocstorm: isn't wine 32bit only ?
[10:02] <hahahehe> how do i create a Partition table?
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: thats correct
[10:02] <hahahehe> hello
[10:02] <hahahehe> how do i create a Partition table?
[10:02] <ikonia> hahahehe: any partition tool, such as fdisk, gparted, disk drid etc
[10:02] <Bobo_PK> 1 more question this is for 1211 do i just have to change the tags?
[10:02] <havocstorm> ikonia, I dunno, but I have a 32bit maschine, so I'll have to redownload the install
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> hahahehe: with fdisk
[10:03] <Bobo_PK> into 1215
[10:03] <ikonia> havocstorm: it is 32bit only
[10:03] <hahahehe> okay so with fdisk, how?
[10:03] <havocstorm> ikonia, I hate microsoft and apple
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Bobo_PK: what is 1215?
[10:03] <ikonia> havocstorm: what has that got to do with anything
[10:03] <hahahehe> does it mean, i need to assign a FS ?
[10:03] <ikonia> havocstorm: thats a pointless saying
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> havocstorm: dont buy their stuff then
[10:03] <hahahehe> is that what that means?
[10:03] <havocstorm> iActionParsnip, gah, I bought my ipod before I started using ubuntu
[10:03] <ikonia> hahahehe: you put a file system on the partitions after they are created
[10:04] <Bobo_PK> ID 0ace:1215 ZyDAS
[10:04] <tanath> I have a quick question regarding free space. System Monitor shows I have 7.4Gb of unavailable free space. Is there anything I can do about that?
[10:04] <betzi> how can i set the emailadress in xchat-gnome for bouncer usage?
[10:04] <ikonia> havocstorm: there are other options than itunes
[10:04] <achadwick> hahahehe: you're not committed to using what you say in the partition table. It's just a good idea.
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> Bobo_PK: gimme a sec
[10:04] <ikonia> tanath: look at why its unavailable
[10:04] <hahahehe> if i alrady have a working OS, can i still do this?
[10:04] <tanath> ikonia: how?
[10:04] <ikonia> tanath: swap partition, hibernation etc etc
[10:04] <Bobo_PK> i got a lot of time today :)
[10:04] <ikonia> hahahehe: not if you want to partition the disk your on
[10:05] <havocstorm> ikonia, rhythmbox doesn't synch, amarok does some crazy collections thing, and songbird doesn't do albumart
[10:05] <tanath> ikonia: i'm talking about on my main hard drive
[10:05] <ikonia> havocstorm: amarok works fine on my ipod touch
[10:05] <hahahehe> huh?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> Bobo_PK: it might still work
[10:05] <ikonia> hahahehe: you can't repartition the drive your using - while your using it
[10:05] <hahahehe> hmm
[10:05] <Bobo_PK> :D sounds... okay 4 me :D
[10:05] <jorrit_> \leave
[10:05] <hahahehe> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[10:05] <hahahehe> /dev/sda1              19G  1.5G   17G   8% /
[10:05] <hahahehe> none                  257M     0  257M   0% /dev/shm
[10:06] <hahahehe> sorry
[10:06] <havocstorm> ikonia, really? you can synch?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> havocstorm: sell your ipod and get something decent instead :)
[10:06] <ikonia> havocstorm: yup
[10:06] <tanath> ikonia: i need more space. i have more unavailable than i have free
[10:06] <havocstorm> huh...wine makes you screen go nuts
[10:06] <hahahehe> but, see,  i only have ONE partition /
[10:06] <ikonia> tanath: look at what it things is not usable
[10:06] <hahahehe> how would i create a partition table on this
[10:06] <naughtykid001_> ActionParsnip: so that's doesn't rely on the os itself?
[10:06] <havocstorm> ActionParsnip, lol, but I really do like the interface on the ipod
[10:06] <ikonia> hahahehe: if you have space on this disk to create a partition you can
[10:06] <tanath> ikonia: you didn't say how
[10:06] <hahahehe> how would i do that?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> naughtykid001 not really its how the sytem interfaces with it
[10:07] <tanath> ikonia: it says how much is free, and how much is available, and there's a 7
[10:07] <ikonia> tanath: I don't use the tool your talking about, so I have no idea, try using another tool such as du and df to verify the space and layout
[10:07] <betzi> how can i set the emailaddress in xchat-gnome for bouncer usage?
[10:07] <ikonia> betzi: for bouncer use ?
[10:07] <betzi> yes
[10:07] <achadwick> hahahehe: alt+f2, type "gksudo gparted", and reads some docs first because this can destroy your disk
[10:07] <ikonia> betzi: isn't it just a field you enter into the x-chat preferences
[10:08] <betzi> not really
[10:08] <tanath> ikonia: i have used df, and it agrees
[10:08] <achadwick> (well, render it unbootable)
[10:08] <tanath> ikonia: there's a 7.4Gb difference between what's free and what's available
[10:08] <ikonia> tanath: what do you mean, it agrees. That only shows disk usage
[10:08] <betzi> theres only "nick, realname" which belong to the ident
[10:08] <ikonia> tanath: can you show me the output of df -h in a pastebin post please.
[10:08] <havocstorm> argh... wine lags
[10:08] <tanath> ikonia: df -h gives me the same info as gnome system monitor
[10:08] <Bobo_PK> uname means username right?
[10:08] <ikonia> tanath: can you show me in a pastebin so I can visualise it please.
[10:08] <ikonia> Bobo_PK: no
[10:09] <ikonia> Bobo_PK: thats a command
[10:09] <tanath> ikonia: the relevant part is: /dev/sda1             146G  134G  4.9G  97% /
[10:09] <Bobo_PK> okay.. sorry but im a real noob on linux ;)
[10:09] <betzi> ikonia:  theres only "nick, realname" which belong to the ident
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> havocstorm: its doing a hard job plus its windows stuff so in some cases it runs poorly. Maybe theres a guide to make it better
[10:09] <tanath> ikonia: oops, that leaves out the headings...
[10:09] <tanath> ikonia: Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[10:09] <ikonia> tanath: thats ok, I know the headings
[10:09] <havocstorm> ActionParsnip, yeah..wish apple would make a damn linux itunes clinet
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> Bobo_PK: run it to see what it does (it only outputs text)
[10:10] <Bobo_PK> kk
[10:10] <ikonia> tritium: you'll find that is just rounding
[10:10] <ikonia> oops
[10:10] <ikonia> tanath: you'll find that is just rounding
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> havocstorm: ive heard that a lot. easier way is to put rockbox on it. gives your ipod about a million times more horsepower
[10:10] <tanath> ikonia: i've been deleting stuff to free space, but since there's so much unavailable, i want to do something about that
[10:11] <tanath> ikonia: 7.4Gb of rounding?
[10:11] <ikonia> tanath: yes possibly
[10:11] <Bobo_PK> ok its downloading some things.. damm 47Kb/s .. my internet sucks
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> tanath ikonia, look at 120Gb HDDs
[10:11] <tanath> ikonia: that's quite a big error... if it's not, then how would i proceed?
[10:11] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: pardion ?
[10:11] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: pardon
[10:11] <havocstorm> actionparsnip
[10:11] <talx> i need help with the partitioning during installation
[10:12] <tanath> ActionParsnip: o.O
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: the rounding makes them like 112 or somesuch
[10:12] <havocstorm> actionparsnip, but second gen apple isn't supported :(
[10:12] <DIFH-iceroot> talx: ask your question
[10:12] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: yes, thats what I've just said
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> just giving another exmple
[10:12] <betzi> yeah, with that damn roundig they fetch our fuckin dollar$
[10:12] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: ahh I see
[10:12] <talx> i got 250GB HD, how i should divide it
[10:12] <Bobo_PK> if any 1needs help with PSPs.. im your man ;)
[10:12] <ikonia> betzi: stop that language now please
[10:12] <ikonia> betzi: it's uncalled for and not welcome
[10:12] <tanath> ikonia, ActionParsnip: alright, then how do i get accurate info?
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> talx: whats it for?
[10:12] <betzi> i only told the facts :)
[10:13] <talx> im installing ubuntu right now
[10:13] <ikonia> betzi: that language is not needed to tell the facts
[10:13] <betzi> k i'm sorry
[10:13] <galleta_> Oh god, i believe would be the same to fallow tutorials for ubuntu and working for xubuntu
[10:13] <galleta_> is not the same at all
[10:13] <galleta_> and there is no support for xubuntu, im in big problems
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> talx: 2Gb for /swp 100Gb for / and the rest for /home
[10:13] <talx> k ill try
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: its the same, just a different DE
[10:14] <hahahehe> can i run a vps inside a vps ?
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> talx: it depends on what its for but thats a basic generalisation
[10:14] <galleta_> ActionParsnip: I add the line, then... reboot.. and double click volume icon will not show nothing.. cant enable pcm or front in preferences.. there are no preferences! lol
[10:14] <galleta_> its totally different
[10:14] <ikonia> hahahehe: vps ?
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> talx: for me / is like 5Gb as I do very little in the way of apps but want maximum space for user files
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: then you have missed something
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: its all ubuntu under the hood, theres a million buntus
[10:15] <galleta_> well
[10:16] <galleta_> i add that the line and reboot
[10:16] <kane77> can anyone suggest me cheap webcam that works under ubuntu? I desperately need one..
[10:16] <galleta_> there was no options to unmute pcm and front..
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> !hcl | kane77
[10:16] <galleta_> and there was no right click to select pcm
[10:16] <DIFH-iceroot> kane77: eye toy :)
[10:17] <galleta_> is there a xfce volume icon similar to the one of gnome?
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> kane77: just nont dodgeytech, they dont like no linux
[10:17] <galleta_> cause this one is totallly weird
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: yu need to run the xfce volume manaer
[10:17] <talx> ActionParsnip http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/7474/screenshotrs7.png
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> talx: fine, what is your system going to be doing?
[10:18] <talx> humm what do u mean?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> talx: what will you be using the system for??
[10:19] <arquebus> talx-how much ram do you have?
[10:19] <kane77> ActionParsnip, I bought the genius e-messenger 112 and it just doesn't work.. (I thought it was gf112 which should work out of the box..)
[10:19] <galleta_> ActionParsnip: there is only one sound icon and is under xfce settings manager
[10:19] <talx> i got 1gb ram
[10:19] <talx> programming, music
[10:19] <talx> IM
[10:19] <talx> thats it
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> talx: should be fine then
[10:19] <talx> some little video
[10:20] <talx> k
[10:20] <talx> ill continue
[10:20] <DIFH-iceroot> 20gb, 2gb swap, rest for /home i think
[10:20] <arquebus> talx-you might only want to use 500mb swap if you only have that much ram
[10:20] <DIFH-iceroot> 20gb = /
[10:20] <hyperair> where's the repositories list located for synaptic?
[10:20] <kane77> normally I wouldn't care for webcam, but I am doing GSoC and the last part of my work is on lti-civil, which is image capture library..
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> DIFH-iceroot: i only gave those figures as i had so little knowledge
[10:20] <talx> thats nvm
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> talx: 20gb for / is fine
[10:21] <kibibyte> how to make visible hidden files in open file dialogs ?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> talx: / == applications and OS
[10:21] <kane77> kibibyte, ctrl+h
[10:21] <talx> i know it
[10:21] <DIFH-iceroot> talx: so use / = 20GB, SWAP = 2GB, rest for /home
[10:21] <talx> i used ubuntu about a half year ago
[10:21] <kibibyte> kane77, ???
[10:22] <talx> thats too late
[10:22] <talx> nvm
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> talx: you could redo your partitions
[10:22] <mars_> hi
[10:22] <talx> well, ill do it later :D
[10:22] <kane77> kibibyte, press ctrl+h to make hidden files visible..
[10:22] <talx> 50 gb for /
[10:22] <mars_> i just tried sudo gem install rails and it does not work.
[10:22] <kibibyte> doesnt work
[10:22] <talx> lets finish the installation first
[10:22] <wols_> chronographer: ICH10 is not supported in ubuntu yet
[10:23] <kane77> mars_, what is the message?
[10:23] <mars_> is it possible to use gems to install rails instead of the deb packages?
[10:23] <kane77> mars_, yes it is possible
[10:23] <wols_> chronographer: you can try AHCI _or_ you use the intrepid kernel. but the kernel ONLY. that's not really supported either but works afaik
[10:23] <mars_> kane77: my bad... i forgot to update the gem repos ;)
[10:23] <galleta_> ActionParsnip: i wonder if there is an option to install gnome on xubuntu as ironic as it may sound.. try to fix everything under gnome and then go back to xfce
[10:24] <mars_> kane77: everything works fine now.
[10:24] <mars_> its the simple things that break your neck.
[10:24] <kane77> mars_, ok.. enjoy the ride :D
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> !puregnome | galleta_
[10:28] <galleta_> ActionParsnip: what is that command for? that will give me the option to start as ubuntu?
[10:28] <galleta_> next time i reboot/
[10:28] <galleta_> ?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: it will install the ubuntu desktop which you can use instead of the xubuntu destop
[10:29] <galleta_> ok thanks
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> galleta_: you need to lo off after install and change the session type to gnome or ubuntu or whatever its called
[10:29] <galleta_> so this is
[10:29] <galleta_> gnome of course isnt
[10:29] <Keiyentai> hello
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> !hi | Keiyentai
[10:31] <Keiyentai> I have a question. I have used Ubuntu before along with WIndows but I decided for my laptop I wanted it to be Linux only. So I was wondering if there is like a forum post or a site with "reccamended" Programs.
[10:31] <kei> Hey all, Ubuntu on an Acer Aspire One netbook. Problem connecting to a WPA-protected access point with NetworkManager (using the madwifi drivers). Syslog says: Activation (ath0/wireless): association took too long (>60s), failing activation. I can connect to that AP with my phone, so I know for sure it's working. Any ideas what I might be doing wrong?
[10:31] <hwilde_> kei, is the key ascii or hex
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> Keiyentai: how do you mean?
[10:31] <kei> hwilde_: ascii
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> Keiyentai: ubuntu will install some standard apps which please most users
[10:32] <hwilde_> kei, did you try wext drivers
[10:33] <kei> hwilde_: Nope, do they work with the atheros chipsets?
[10:33] <hwilde_> kei, should
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Kei: which theros do you have?
[10:33] <kei> okay, let me check that out. I went with madwifi because the guy who wrote the ubuntu install guide for the Acer One said it works.
[10:33] <kei> ActionParsnip: Uhh, let me look that up
[10:34] <bullgard4> ikonia: Google does not know any "audio sequencer for alsa". So this practically does not exist.
[10:34] <Keiyentai> I was just wondering like  programs people reccamend or use. Also when I got my wifi working I used a different tutorial then last and I don't have the NetWork Manager where I can see multiple APs I just have the one where I have to type in the SSID
[10:35] <hwilde_> Keiyentai, there are a lot of programs in Synaptic.  the ones that say ubuntu in the version are more or less recommended
[10:35] <koshari> Keiyentai really depends on what you want to do,
[10:35] <Keiyentai> ok.
[10:35] <smee> bullgard4: audio sequencer? you mean like fasttracker or fruityloops?
[10:35] <kei> ActionParsnip: AR242x 802.11abg pci express adapter rev 01
[10:35] <hwilde_> Keiyentai, you know synaptic?
[10:35] <Keiyentai> ya
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Keiyentai: there are no recommended programs to use, neither is there in windows, you use what you like. If you are more specific with the area of the application (email, file browser) then i can recommend some but millions would disagree and millions would agree
[10:36] <tuxsudo> anyone have the problem with typing getting lagged in firefox when upgrading ubuntu?
[10:36] <smee> bullgard4: i think one of the lugradio guys made a program like this
[10:36] <Keiyentai> ok sorry for the braud question. I am kind of out of it
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> Kei: have you install the restricted drivers
[10:36] <koshari> Keiyentai for instance i like gnome commander but many wouldnt.
[10:37] <bullgard4> smee: I mean the entry in the GNOME Device Manager with 'Device file: /dev/snd/seq'.
[10:37] <smee> bullgard4: ah ok i misunderstood
[10:37] <bullgard4> smee: What is 'lugradio'?
[10:37] <kei> ActionParsnip: I installed madwifi, not sure what the restricted drivers are
[10:37] <uz> hello peeps
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> Kei: search in synaptic
[10:38] <smee> bullgard4: group of guys who do a weekly radio show...lug is short for Linux User Group
[10:38] <bullgard4> smee: Do you speak about Internet radio?
[10:38] <uz> can anyone point me to a repository with the eclipse 3.3 ide, pls
[10:39] <smee> bullgard4: I mentioned lugradio because one of the guys (jono i think his name is) created a program for making audio...works pretty uch like fruity loops or any other kind of "layered audio tracker"
[10:39] <bullgard4> uz: You could try to find out yourself using packages.ubuntu.com
[10:40] <jono> smee: Jokosher :)
[10:40] <smee> ja that is it
[10:40] <bullgard4> smee: Ah, ok.
[10:40] <smee> reminds me i should grab some of their latest shows...lots of great news and humour too
[10:40] <uz> bullgard4: ty, m going there
[10:41] <BVBBQ> hmm, can someone try to help me get my video card drivers to work?
[10:41] <smee> I have a question myself, related to making gtk/metacity themes: what is the name of the program that lets me mouse over a gui element and retrieve it's ctk widget name?
[10:42] <smee> gtk*
[10:42] <smee> "something"view i think it is ,,,, just not sure
[10:42] <third3ye> Whats the partition type for writable ntfs in fstab? ntfs-fuse or ntfs-3g?
[10:42] <hwilde_> !ntfs  | third3ye
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> third3ye: ntfs-3g
[10:42] <ikonia> third3ye: ntfs-3g
[10:42] <SNuxoll> third3ye: ntfs-3g
[10:43] <SNuxoll> shazaam, beaten again
[10:43] <smee> so you see thirdeye, it depends on your ntfs access driver
[10:43] <Keiyentai> is there a certant program I need for .rar file. Cuase I just downloaded one and the archive Manager said it doesent suppot .rar
[10:43] <SNuxoll> Keiyentai: ubuntu-restricted-extras will install it
[10:43] <smee> Keiyentai: sudo aptitude install rar
[10:43] <third3ye> Well I'm trying to run VirtualBox with physical access to a specific partition
[10:43] <Keiyentai> ty
[10:44] <SNuxoll> smee: it's unrar
[10:44] <BVBBQ> for some reason my computer refuses to let me use the driver from ATI, and on top of that i am stuck using the highest resolution possible, it wont let me switch because of something wrong with X server it says that XRandR extension isnt supported
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> Keiyentai: sudo apt-get install unrar
[10:44] <smee> it is rar
[10:44] <DistroJockey> !rar
[10:44] <third3ye> Turns out I can't do that unless I make write access available for... you know, fuck that. I'm not compromising my work. I'm copying over.
[10:45] <bullgard4> !language | third3ye
[10:45] <nextplace> Hi guys, does anyone know, how I can change my Monitor-Model with a GUI?
[10:45] <third3ye> Oh, excuse me ^^;;
[10:45] <third3ye> Kinda used to the free speech at club ubuntu by now
[10:45] <BVBBQ> Nextplace, i think you can do it under the screen resolution tool in preferences
[10:46] <nextplace> BVBBQ: nope
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> !ndiswrapper > ActionParsnip
[10:47] <smee> should be using "sudo aptitude install blahblah" instead of "sudo apt-get blahblah" as aptitude will track dependancies for when you need to uninstall...apt-get wont...leaving many unused libs hanging around
[10:47] <BVBBQ> nextplace, hmm, well you've got me there, i seemed to remember being an option there. why do you need to change your monitor model?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> smee: Ive always used apt-get and had zero issues
[10:48] <CaT_MaNZz> hello all, witch version of ubuntu is best for PC EEE using. I have got pc eee 901 (intel atom)
[10:48] <smee> the benefits are more apparent when you decide to remove a program whose dependancies are not used by any other program
[10:48] <hwilde_> smee, apt-get can autoclean or autoremove unnused stuff.
[10:48] <nextplace> because my Brother got a new one (widescreen)
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> smee: and considering the vast majority of the ubuntu community documentation uses apt-get...
[10:48] <Ziroday> CaT_MaNZz: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> CaT_MaNZz: eeeXUbuntu
[10:49] <wols_> smee: this doesn't apply to ubuntu.
[10:49] <hwilde_> smee, apt-get can autoclean or autoremove unnused stuff.
[10:49] <Jampiter> Hi, I have a quick Q
[10:49] <smee> yes it does
[10:49] <CaT_MaNZz> ty
[10:49] <wols_> smee: no
[10:49] <smee> yes
[10:49] <BVBBQ> nextplace, hmm, this may work but it isnt perfect. download the resolution switcher, it has some widescreen display options
[10:49] <wols_> smee: stop if you're clueless. apt-get now autoremoves as well
[10:49] <Jampiter> IF I get normal Ubuntu, how easy is it to put KD,E or other window managers on there
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> it doesnt autoremove, you have to poke it to do it
[10:49] <Ziroday> ActionParsnip: eeexubuntu is no longer supported, please don't recommend it
[10:49] <nextplace> BVBBQ: via Synaptic?
[10:49] <Jampiter> ?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Ziroday: really, crazy...it rocks
[10:49] <hwilde_> !kde | Jampiter
[10:49] <DIFH-iceroot> Jampiter: use kubuntu or just install kubuntu-desktop
[10:50] <BVBBQ> nextplace, or from the applications manager downloading thingie (tm)
[10:50] <Jampiter> So I just send of for a Kubuntu CD instead?
[10:50]  * Jampiter is an amateur
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> Jampiter: you can probably download it faster
[10:50] <Jampiter> My parents won't let me <_<
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> Jampiter: why not? Get it via torrents and you can do it a bit at a time ;)
[10:51] <BVBBQ> Can someone help me to get propriatery drivers working for my videocard? the utility refuses to notice my video card
[10:51] <Jampiter> Would it run on a 6-7 year old PC?
[10:51] <nextplace> BVBBQ: but there must be a GUI for it, because, if you change the resolution in the xorg.conf to a wrong one, Gnome starts it automatically
[10:51] <DIFH-iceroot> Jampiter: i am using kde on a eeepc, which is 6-7 years old :)
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Jampiter: should be fine, just run xubuntu or ubuntu, stay away from kde and you're fine
[10:52] <Jampiter> Ok :p
[10:52] <Jampiter> Thanks for your help! :D
[10:52] <DIFH-iceroot> ActionParsnip: kde is also working great on older pcs
[10:52] <hwilde_> icewm :)
[10:52] <DIFH-iceroot> ActionParsnip: like the eeepc 701g
[10:53] <Ziroday> DIFH-iceroot: err, eee's aren't 6 years old
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> DIFH-iceroot: i like kde apps but find the thing nasty so I run fluxbox on top of kde
[10:53] <BVBBQ> nextplace, that is what resolution switcher does. right now the only way for me to use a half normal resolution is through the switcher. and you can change on the fly. i believe this might be a temporary fix for you
[10:53] <DIFH-iceroot> Ziroday: look at the hardware 630mhz, 512mb ram
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> Ziroday: the stuff inside is equivelant ;)
[10:53] <LSD|Ninja> Have I pulled a Rip Van Winkle, since when was the Eee 6-7 years old? o_O
[10:53] <Jampiter> Thanks :D I'm gonna go order some CDs :D
[10:53] <BVBBQ> nextplace, and it is a GUI btw
[10:53] <Jampiter> Bye! :D
[10:53] <DIFH-iceroot> but now i am running gnome on my eeepc (eeebuntu)
[10:54] <hahahehe> what do i need to do to make my ubuntu, cool?
[10:54] <yueguang> 雕塑家
[10:54] <nextplace> BVBBQ: I'll give it a try, thx
[10:54] <hwilde_> hahahehe, got good hardware?
[10:54] <DIFH-iceroot> hahahehe: compiz
[10:54] <hahahehe> yes
[10:54] <BVBBQ> nextplace, no problem
[10:54] <hwilde_> !cube | hahahehe
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> hahahehe: its already doing it :)
[10:54] <hahahehe> huh?
[10:54] <hwilde_> hahahehe, customize your themes and effects
[10:55] <hahahehe> hmm
[10:55] <hahahehe> so i already have compiz ?
[10:55] <hwilde_> !themes > hahahehe
[10:55] <BVBBQ> Can someone help me to get propriatery drivers working for my videocard? the utility refuses to notice my video card
[10:55] <yueguang> yeah
[10:55] <hahahehe> do i need beryl?
[10:55] <hwilde_> !compiz > hahahehe
[10:55] <DIFH-iceroot> hahahehe: search at youtube for compiz, then you will see a "cool" desktop
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> BVBBQ: what card?
[10:55] <BVBBQ> ActionParsnip, it is an ATI... forgot the model number
[10:55] <smee> cool is a subjective and personal milestone
[10:56] <LSD|Ninja> BVBBQ: lspci it
[10:56] <hahahehe> hmm
[10:56] <nextplace> BVBBQ: I found the right solution
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> !ati | BVBBQ
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> !envy | BVBBQ
[10:56] <hahahehe> okay so i made max special effects, now i get that squiggly effect lol
[10:56] <nextplace> BVBBQ: sudo displayconfig-gtk
[10:56] <hahahehe> is that all? -_-
[10:56] <hahahehe> i want it to be cooler
[10:56] <DistroJockey> !ccsm | hahahehe
[10:56] <BVBBQ> ActionParsnip,  Radeon X1300
[10:57] <smee> hahahehe:  ccsm
[10:57] <smee> hahahehe: it's the configurator for compiz...you might want to visit the tips section of the ubuntuforums to check out some compiz how tos
[10:57] <hahahehe> apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[10:58] <hahahehe> ok, i did that
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> BVBBQ: tried envyng-gtk?
[10:58] <smee> hahahehe: you can also visit the homepage of compiz so you can see the bleeding edge plugins
[10:58] <BVBBQ> ActionParsnip, how?
[10:58] <ibrahim> Hello, I am trying to connect VPN via PPTP protocol but I am getting an error. Please see logs http://pastebin.com/m18bdd185
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> BVBBQ: sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> BVBBQ: in linux nothing is a secret or cryptic
[10:59] <BVBBQ> ActionParsnip, i would disagree, my computer responds to voodoo nine times out of ten
[10:59] <BVBBQ> ActionParsnip, or percussive maintenance
[10:59] <Initial_M> musta
[11:00] <BVBBQ> ActionParsnip, ok, now how do i enable or get it to work?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> BVBBQ: you install envyng-gtk, then run gksu envyng-gtk
[11:01] <DistroJockey> ibrahim, you may need to sudo that command
[11:01] <hahahehe> now how do i open up that CUBE
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> BVBBQ: then its all pretty much in front of you, just read the screen
[11:02] <BVBBQ> ActionParsnip, seems to be working
[11:02] <ole_> =)
[11:02] <Ziroday> hahahehe: if you have the cube enabled, you can use it by pressing ctrl + alt and clicking and holding the mouse
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> BVBBQ: its a bit hit and miss but works for me
[11:02] <ole_> din bæsj
[11:02] <ole_> din bæsj
[11:02] <BVBBQ> ActionParsnip, any advice to make it run smoothly, my computer is magical at making things not run smoothly,
[11:02] <DistroJockey> !no | ole_
[11:03] <smee> hahahehe: try this too : super + e
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> BVBBQ: give it a go, read everything on the screen
[11:03] <vnix> How to type chinese letters?
[11:03] <smee> hahahehe: super = windows key btw
[11:04] <daning> vnix: install chinese input method.
[11:04] <daning> vnix: like scim. fcitx.
[11:04] <vnix> thanks
[11:05] <Ziroday> vnix: this wiki article may also be helpful https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SCIM
[11:05] <BVBBQ> ActionParsnip, thanks man, seems to be going smoothly, downloading the fgrlx driver as we speak.
[11:05] <hahahehe> hmm
[11:05] <hahahehe> i have this 2 dimension cube
[11:05] <hahahehe> reminds me of parallel universe
[11:05] <BVBBQ> ActionParsnip, this envy is a pretty slick setup
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> BVBBQ: its not supported unfortunately but its helped some
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> BVBBQ: you can always uninstall it
[11:06] <smee> hahahehe: you need to enable more than two workspaces
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> BVBBQ: you will need to rerun this if you upgrade your kernel
[11:06] <hahahehe> what is the workspace rows/cols setup to have a perfect great looking cube
[11:06] <LOWER_CASE> Hi, anyone recommend a camera for use with Ubuntu 7.10 & Skype?
[11:06] <DistroJockey> hahahehe, if you want more, change the Desktop Size in General
[11:06] <BVBBQ> ActionParsnip, well. my computer is a frankenstien of unsupported and hacked parts
[11:06] <smee> hahahehe: it is 4 to get a cube
[11:06] <kane77> wow.. managed to get my dv cam work as webcam.. it is great BUT by default the /dev/raw1394 has wrong permissions as well as /dev/video1 how do I change that (permanently)?
[11:07] <BVBBQ> ActionParsnip, i think that is what did in my last driver, upgraded to a new kernel.
[11:07] <smee> hahahehe: also, try looking at the 'scale' plugin and set a screen corner to activate it
[11:07] <chronographer> what is better 64bit or i86 ??
[11:07] <hahahehe> hmm i see the cube but still only shows on the front of the cubes
[11:07] <hahahehe> not on the top or bottom
[11:08] <hahahehe> how can i put some stuff up there or the bottom
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> BVBBQ: yeah you need to install it for the new one each time
[11:08] <smee> hahahehe: drag your mouse down
[11:08] <hahahehe> i just see yellow
[11:08] <smee> hahahehe: if you are using ctrl+alt + mouse drag
[11:08] <mantise> hello :)
[11:08] <chronographer> is there any real advantage to using 64 bit?
[11:08] <smee> hahahehe: you need to set an image for the 'caps' as they are called
[11:08] <BVBBQ> ActionParsnip, one other thing maybe you can tell me, in your experience could there be something that returns erronious CPU over temp messeges to the Bios? my computer likes to crash if i run it at 100% for more than a few min
[11:09] <hahahehe> how i do that
[11:09] <smee> hahahehe: in the ccsm
[11:09] <Whiz2> I need to remove 45MB worth of data from my linux installation HDD i've emptied my trash, browser cache, and apt-get packages cache. what other files can I safely remove?
[11:10] <mantise> i have this problem with ubuntu http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-517393.html - I cant get proper internet access from ubuntu, only google works, and irc. not even apt or the ubuntu update downloader. gonna try one more time before i try another distro.
[11:10] <LOWER_CASE> Hi, anyone recommend a webcam for Skype on Ubuntu?
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> BVBBQ: run top and sit and watch, see whats maxing it out and go from there
[11:10] <hwilde_> mantise, that sounds like a dns problem, not ubuntu.
[11:10] <smee> System -> Preferences -> CompizConfig Settings Manager -> General -> Desktop
[11:10] <smee> Desktop Size*
[11:10] <DistroJockey> hahahehe, more help for compiz is at #compiz-fusion
[11:10] <BVBBQ> ActionParsnip, can i get that in laymans terms? what is Top?
[11:11] <mantise> hwilde: my dns is fine.. i can ping locations, and do host address.. it works fine
[11:11] <mantise> hwilde: my dns's are correct.. and they work in windows on the same pc
[11:11] <hwilde_> mantise, but you can get to google and xchat, so internet is working fine.
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> BVBBQ: type it in terminal
[11:11] <mantise> hwilde: yeah only google, any other homepage, it cant enter
[11:11] <BVBBQ> ActionParsnip, thanks, i will try that after this is finished.
[11:12] <Whiz2> mantise: just because you can do certain things, but not others, doesn't mean your DNS is fine.
[11:12] <hwilde_> mantise, well that sounds like a caching issue.
[11:12] <hwilde_> mantise, can you actually search on google
[11:12] <mantise> Whiz2: hm, what can i do about it?
[11:12] <Whiz2> mantise: Are you connected to the internet via a router, or are you connected directly to yuour modem?