[02:33] <jordanS> Hey guys, I have a TP-Link "TL-WN321G" wireless USB dongle on a Dell Latitude c600 notebook running Ubuntu 7.04.  The wireless works fine, but does not support WPA encryption.  WPA works in windows XP and is supported, so how can I make it work in ubuntu?
[02:33] <LjL> Vanax: no. that's usually what that site is used for -- but this time, you just have to follow the instructions in the top (commented out) section. and you need to know the ID of the Beryl repository (i guess it's on their web page).
[02:33] <wols_> fogwar: and it will ahve shown you a "comand not found" when you tried to run it. so there was an error
[02:34] <wols_> jordanS: wpa-supplicant
[02:34] <wols_> !wpa
[02:34] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:34] <shiryu> jrib i click it and nothing happens
[02:34] <Scheck32> hi all
[02:34] <jrib> shiryu: what error do you get when you type "frostwire" in a terminal?
[02:34] <wols_> shiryu: you cannot "click" in a terminal
[02:34] <jordanS> wols: I believe I tried that
[02:34] <wols_> jordanS: it's your only choice for wpa
[02:34] <smuggler8> hi, just wanted to ask a couple of q's about ubuntu
[02:34] <mwe> doesn't network manager support wpa, though, for the faint of heart?
[02:34] <wols_> !ask | smuggler8
[02:34] <ubotu> smuggler8: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:35] <jrib> smuggler8: welcome, just start asking away
[02:35] <Scheck32> does anyone here have a Inspiron E1505N laptop???
[02:35] <jrib> !anyone | Scheck32
[02:35] <Rodel> How do i find where my Gaim files are?
[02:35] <wols_> !
[02:35] <wols_> Rodel: dpkg -L gaim
[02:35] <dG__> I'm with a little problem.. I've just installed ubuntu and I've enabled BigDesktop, wich is working fine... however, I have two similar monitors, both with 1280x1024, but, my primary monitor in gnome is showing smaller that it should be.. but the "workspace" is in the correct resolution (http://lisbon.digital-work.com/ubuntu.png)
[02:35] <jrib> Rodel: depending on what files you mean... probably ~/.gaim/
[02:35] <dG__> any help? :)
[02:35] <ubotu> Scheck32: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:35] <smuggler8> Is it possible to trible boot OS X, XP, Ubuntu on an x86 PC but also access XP and OS X via VM in ubuntu?
[02:35] <shiryu> mm i dont know how to open a terminal jrib im new in linux
[02:36] <jrib> shiryu: applications > accessories > terminal
[02:36] <Rodel> wols_ that doesnt tell me anything
[02:36] <Rodel> jrib im looking for where the plugins are
[02:36] <Scheck32> I am having a problem with my E1505N Dell laptop....would anyone be able to help me?
[02:36] <wols_> Rodel: then gaim is not installed
[02:36] <fogwar> mwe: damnit says i dont have perl mod
[02:36] <wols_> !anyone | scheck
[02:36] <ubotu> scheck: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[02:36] <jrib> Rodel: why?
[02:36] <wols_> Scheck32: either you state your problem or we can't help you
[02:36] <shiryu> jrib it says bash: frostwire: order dont find
[02:37] <Rodel> jrib to install a plugin that gaim doesnt know about
[02:37] <jordanS> wols_: "wpasupplicant is already the newest version"
[02:37] <shiryu> or something like that english is not my native language
[02:37] <jrib> Rodel: what plugin?
[02:37] <jrib> ls ~/.gaim/plugins/
[02:37] <wols_> shiryu: I doubt this is the correct error message you are getting
[02:37] <jrib> shiryu: copy and paste the actual error
[02:37] <wols_> shiryu: without exact error messages no one can help you
[02:37] <Scheck32> when I do the 46 updates that Ubuntu is requesting me do it unmounts the harddrive
[02:38] <Scheck32> I have a new Inspiron E1505N Dell Ubuntu laptop
[02:38] <wols_> Scheck32: paste the output of your update
[02:38] <shiryu> bash: frostwire: orden no encontrada
[02:38] <naruto_> hi, how do i check my linux version?
[02:38] <Scheck32> i believe it said error 17
[02:38] <wols_> naruto_: kernel vresion or ubuntu vresion?
[02:38] <shiryu> it says only this
[02:38] <Scheck32> it happens on the restart
[02:38] <naruto_> kernel
[02:38] <wols_> Scheck32: that's a grub error. you need to use another kernel or reinstall grub
[02:38] <wols_> naruto_: uname -r
[02:39] <Scheck32> i do try another kernal...but all result back to the same error
[02:39] <naruto_> thanks...i got a question my windows hard drive is no longer in my desktop
[02:39] <naruto_> i can't find it
[02:39] <wols_> !grub | Scheck32
[02:39] <ubotu> Scheck32: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:39] <wols_> !ntfs | naruto_
[02:39] <Scheck32> the only thing i can do is run the restore partition
[02:39] <ubotu> naruto_: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:39] <jrib> shiryu: what does this return:  dpkg -l frostwire | tail -n 1
[02:39] <kronoman> hi
[02:39] <grubiskillingme> !grub
[02:39] <peteremcc> ok, can someone let me know how to completely remove the external drive from ubuntu... so i can try start again
[02:40] <naruto_> !ntfs?
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <naruto_> type that
[02:40] <hendaus> hiya
[02:40] <wols_> peteremcc: just unplug it
[02:40] <paroxysm> shiryu: i've never used frostwire
[02:40] <hendaus> who is familiar with gnokii here , thanx
[02:40] <paroxysm> shiryu: sorry, lol
[02:40] <kronoman> I have a Motorola L6i , how I plug it into Linux ?
[02:40] <wols_> hendaus: ask your real question
[02:40] <paroxysm> i get a verbose shutdown with no usplash, but only on shutdown, boot up is fine. even when i tried the feisty livecd it was like that. any ideas?
[02:40] <Vanax> LjL: Sorry, went to the bathroom, I know the ID of the repository, and when i put it it, it wont download the update. I says tehre is no public key.
[02:40] <grubiskillingme> what is the command to gedit the grub bootloader?  Everytime I update it - it overwrites my Windows option.  Is there a way to have the default OS be windows?
[02:40] <peteremcc> um, it is currently unplugged but its still showing up in "computer"
[02:40] <noob> how do I play dvd movies?
[02:40] <jrib> !dvd > noob (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:40] <kronoman> I plugged my cell phone, and I see with dmesg --> rivers/usb/class/cdc-acm.c: v0.23:USB Abstract Control Model driver for USB modems and ISDN adapters
[02:41] <kronoman> now, how I access the phone?
[02:41] <kronoman> I want to download pictures from the cam
[02:41] <Scheck32> how can i fix the grub error that I am getting
[02:41] <wols_> peteremcc: check if it's mounted. "mount"
[02:41] <caravel> the 7.04 setup lists my ide drive as sda1, I seem to remember that it used to be (logically) listed as hda1, should I care ?
[02:41] <Scheck32> because it happens on the restart for the updates
[02:41] <wols_> Scheck32: ubotu told you
[02:41] <peteremcc> the problem i am trying to fix, is that it wont mount
[02:41] <naruto_> !ntfs | naruto
[02:41] <ubotu> naruto: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[02:41] <grubiskillingme> what is the command to gedit the grub bootloader?  Everytime I update it - it overwrites my Windows option.  Is there a way to have the default OS be windows?
[02:41] <shiryu> jrib it only says ii  frostwire      4.13.1         A Truly Free and Open Source Peer to Peer client
[02:41] <Vanax> Why does it say Permission Denied when i type /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:41] <hendaus> wols_:  if i want to get a file from my cellphone to pc, --getfile remote_filename [local_filename]  <-- what should be replace?
[02:41] <askand> When I rightclick on "screenlets-extra-0.0.7.tar.bz2" and unpack it I get a folder named "screenlets-extra-0.0.7.tar.bz2_FILES"... why? Why cant it be named "screenlets-extra-0.0.7"? :-O
[02:41] <mwe> caravel it did that to me as well. it went fine and ended up as hda in the end, though.
[02:41] <greg_g> Could someone please take a look at this post, I think the solution is probably easy and I did most of the work already, just need the finishing touches.  Thanks.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=460210
[02:42] <tritium> Vanax: that's not a binary or executable file
[02:42] <wols_> hendaus: remote_filename and [local_filename]
[02:42] <jrib> shiryu: ok then I mistranslated your error... type this command: LANGUAGE=en_US frostwire
[02:42] <grubiskillingme> what is the command to gedit the grub bootloader?
[02:42] <wols_> Vanax: that is a nomrla text file
[02:42] <Squirrely_Wrath> Okay, re-installed beryl.  told it to install xgl.  as far as I know it installed it.  STILL I have no effects or anything.  Any suggestions?
[02:42] <naruto_> how come i have to mount my windows hard drive..before it was automatically mounted
[02:42] <caravel> mwe: weird... or could it be an issue related to the fact I have an usb drive connected at the moment ?
[02:42] <GrueTamer> grubiskillingme: gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:42] <tritium> grubiskillingme: you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:42] <Vanax> wols_:oh ok
[02:42] <wols_> grubiskillingme: gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:42] <Scheck32> but ubotu never really answered my question
[02:42] <GrueTamer> right, gksudo, forgot that
[02:42] <hendaus> wols_: ok if i want to get file image095.jpg what should i type
[02:42] <mwe> grubiskillingme gksudo gedit if you want to be able to save it
[02:42] <grubiskillingme> thanks guys
[02:42] <mwe> grubiskillingme back it up first
[02:42] <wols_> hendaus: I told you
[02:43] <wols_> hendaus: read
[02:43] <neosimago> #ubuntu-amd64
[02:43] <lockd> are there any halfway decent vnc viewers in ubuntu?
[02:43] <shiryu> ok then jrib
[02:43] <sangrelinux> hi, i connected a hard drive to my computer via usb.  The drive had a few older linux partitions.  I do not have permissions to open most of the folders.  How do I gain access?
[02:43] <lockd> right now both xvnc or xtightvnc have this annoying mouse offset making it unusable
[02:43] <jrib> shiryu: what was the output?
[02:44] <Rodel> there isnt a plugins folder in my .gaim folder...
[02:44] <wols_> sangrelinux: chown or chmod them
[02:44] <shiryu> jrib this: Starting FrostWire...
[02:44] <shiryu> Java exec found in PATH. Verifying...
[02:44] <shiryu> OOPS, you don't seem to have a valid JRE. FrostWire works best with Sun JRE available at http://www.java.com
[02:44] <shiryu> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/lib/  hierarchy
[02:44] <shiryu> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[02:44] <shiryu> ls: /usr/java/j*: No such file or directory
[02:44] <hendaus> wols_:  sorry i did it but it stopped at 60% it says connection time out, maybe i am doing wrong
[02:44] <jrib> Rodel: what plugin are you installing?
[02:44] <shiryu> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /usr/java/  hierarchy
[02:44] <shiryu> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[02:44] <eXpod> what does ./ mean?
[02:44] <shiryu> ls: /opt/j*: No such file or directory
[02:44] <shiryu> OOPS, unable to locate java exec in  /opt/  hierarchy
[02:44] <Rodel> jrib xfire
[02:44] <shiryu> You need to upgrade to JRE 1.5.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[02:44] <shiryu> shiryu@shiryu-laptop:~$
[02:44] <jrib> shiryu: don't paste here please, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:44] <wols_> !java
[02:44] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[02:44] <Rochvellon> hi, i get always an error when i'm calling ab -n 1000 host: error 22 wrong number of arguments. without -n 1000 it works. whats wrong?
[02:44] <Vanax> wols_: what does W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3FF0DB166A7476EA
[02:44] <Vanax> mean
[02:44] <lockd> shiryu: that's Frostwire balking on java gij
[02:44] <sangrelinux> wols_: will try
[02:44] <Squirrely_Wrath> Okay, re-installed beryl.  told it to install xgl.  as far as I know it installed it.  STILL I have no effects or anything.  Any suggestions?
[02:44] <wols_> !pubkey
[02:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pubkey - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:44] <mwe> shiryu have installed sun-java?
[02:45] <lockd> shiryu: it actually does so on purpose
[02:45] <jrib> shiryu: sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre
[02:45] <lockd> mwe: i would not trust frostwire though
[02:45] <shiryu> but i already installed it from synaptic because i cant in the java page
[02:45] <lockd> mwe: it does stop gij on purpose
[02:46] <wols_> shiryu: you installed gij but you need sun java
[02:46] <hendaus> wols_:  --getfile id <-- what shoul be my id?
[02:46] <wols_> shiryu: it will not work ever with sun java
[02:46] <Quinn_Storm> hey guys, I know I once saw a thread about this somewhere but I can't find it..basically, I'm having a weird problem where any time I suspend & resume my laptop (feisty kubuntu x86_64) it automatically resuspends within a minute or so (it resumes properly after that)
[02:46] <wols_> hendaus: I have no clue what you are actually running --getfile is no command
[02:46] <jrib> shiryu: what does this command say: dpkg -l sun-java6-jre | tail -n 1
[02:46] <lockd> does anyone know of a halfway decent vnc viewer for Ubuntu?
[02:47] <Rodel> jrib im trying to install an xfire plugin
[02:47] <lockd> or at least how to solve xvncviewer's despicable mouse offsets
[02:47] <captaintrips> u guys have any experience with kismet? i got it running but it doesnt scan
[02:47] <Vanax> does anyone know what "W: GPG error: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3FF0DB166A7476EA" means?
[02:47] <shiryu> ii  sun-java6-jre  6-00-2ubuntu2  Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (architecture independent files
[02:47] <jrib> Rodel: you can use ~/.gaim/plugins/ for your user, just create the directory if it does not exist
[02:47] <jrib> !multijava > shiryu (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:47] <mwe> lockd I don't know why it's not working right for you. supposedly tighvnc is working well for most people
[02:47] <jrib> shiryu: set your java alternative to sun's
[02:47] <hendaus> wols_:   --getfilebyid id [local_filename]  <-- here what should i type?
[02:48] <peteremcc> I'm having trouble with mounting and writing to and ntfs external hard drive... none of the suggestions from here have worked so can someone help me completely remove the hard drive so i can start all over again (short of re-installing ubuntu)? thanks
[02:48] <wols_> --getfile is no command. it won't work. you type more than that for it to work
[02:48] <lockd> mwe: if so, it's ONLY good for remote administration
[02:48] <wols_> peteremcc: reboot with the hdd not plugged in
[02:48] <Andreson> fock you all!
[02:48] <peteremcc> done that wols_
[02:48] <Andreson> fock you all!
[02:48] <wols_> peteremcc: since we don't know what you did, we cannot tell you how to "remove" it
[02:49] <lockd> mwe: I will have to use an anceint patch then, from old mailing lists
[02:49] <lockd> mwe: ancient
[02:49] <Vanax> Sweet, so coming in here was a waste of my time because nobody did anything to help.
[02:49] <shiryu> jrib  update-java-alternatives [--jre]  [--plugin]  [ -t|--test|-v|--verbose]
[02:49] <shiryu>            -l|--list [<jname>]
[02:49] <shiryu>            -s|--set <jname>
[02:49] <shiryu>            -a|--auto
[02:49] <shiryu>            -h|-?|--help
[02:49] <chump> !fuse
[02:49] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[02:49] <hendaus> wols_:  --getallfiles remote_path <-- help me please coz i have many documents and i need them on my pc, just tell me what should be on remote path?
[02:50] <jrib> shiryu: stop pasting here! use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org when you have something long to show us
[02:50] <LjL> Vanax, i asked you to tell me what *exactly* you've typed (following the !gpgerr instructions) and the output that each command gave you. i'm still waiting.
[02:50] <peteremcc> by 'remove' i guess i mean something like uninstalling and deleting from device manager in windows - though i recognise that this will probably work differently in ubuntu
[02:50] <mwe> !paste | shiryu
[02:50] <ubotu> shiryu: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:50] <wols_> hendaus: either you answer my question or you don't talk to me
[02:50] <kronoman> I have a Motorola L6i , how I plug it into Linux using USB ?
[02:50] <paroxysm> i get a verbose shutdown with no usplash, but only on shutdown, boot up is fine. even when i tried the feisty livecd it was like that. any ideas?
[02:50] <kronoman> I plug it, the kernel detects it, but I don't know what to do with it
[02:51] <Morbis|Ruin> wols_, been looking at the forums and i think my problem is the MTU, how do i change it? that's the only i haven't been able to work out
[02:51] <jrib> shiryu: run this command: sudo update-java-alternatives -s java-6-sun
[02:51] <Squirrely_Wrath> hmmmm....it appears beryl is technically working, but I get no actual effects...
[02:51] <bangers> how do I run a fsck against the / filesystem on my ubuntu server?
[02:51] <Vanax> LJL: i did that thing u sent me, and i got a # Automatically generated sources.list
[02:51] <Vanax> now what do i do with it
[02:51] <wols_> Morbis|Ruin: with a very convoluted iptables line I don't rememebr off hand
[02:51] <LjL> Vanax: *read the top section of it*! it's got INSTRUCTIONS!
[02:51] <bob__> anyone know of the .deb for bcmxx
[02:51] <shiryu> and then jrib?
[02:52] <jrib> shiryu: try frostwire again
[02:52] <sea> bcmxx? try fwcutter
[02:52] <wols_> bangers: remount / read only then fsck. or sudo touch /forcefsck and reboot
[02:52] <sea> fwcutter fixed my bcmxx on feisty :P
[02:52] <Morbis|Ruin> wols_, ah. i'll write a bit on a relevant thread on the forum and hope someone can give a full answer then, thanks for your help
[02:52] <naruto_> damn this is confusing
[02:52] <bob__> frostwire has vir
[02:52] <naruto_> i have no idea how to put my windows drive back
[02:52] <sebas_> how do I remove a full directory (containing files) using the terminal'
[02:52] <zero> hey exist a manual for ffmpeg  that is not   map ffmpeg?
[02:52] <jrib> !cli > sebas_ (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:53] <zero> i cant really understand anything from there
[02:53] <sangrelinux> wols_: worked!  Thanks!
[02:53] <wols_> sebas_: rn -rf. but be very very careful
[02:53] <kadaz> hello
[02:53] <ti4mi> Hello
[02:53] <hendaus> wols_:  <wols_> --getfile is no command. it won't work. you type more than that for it to work <--sorry i i mean this sudo gnokii --getallfiles remote_path
[02:53] <kadaz> I need some help with configuring a x server.
[02:53] <shiryu> ooh thanks jrib
[02:53] <wols_> hendaus: check the gnokii docs if it can display files like ls can
[02:53] <jrib> shiryu: np
[02:53] <shiryu> only one more thing
[02:54] <sebas_> wols_ with the omnipresent rm -rf / ?
[02:54] <OhMyGods> Who can help me,please. I'm running ubuntu-xfce4 in virtual pc. my mouse cann't move.
[02:54] <wols_> sebas_: yes. and its variations
[02:54] <shiryu> you know jrib a driver to linux x2350?
[02:54] <mwe> heh. talking of rm -rf. I remember typing rm -rf / path/to/some/dir as root a few years ago. go figure ...
[02:54] <shiryu> i only find for windows
[02:54] <zero> hello there is documentation form ffmpeg besides man ffmpeg?
[02:54] <OhMyGods> I'm install a base system,then install x-window-system-core xfce4.
[02:54] <jrib> shiryu: no, I have no idea what x2350 is
[02:54] <gigamonkey> Are the sources for Gnome available via Synaptic or do I need to download them from somewhere?
[02:55] <jrib> gigamonkey: apt-get source PACKAGE  grabs the source for PACKAGE
[02:55] <zero> i do not know if i make myself clear :S
[02:55] <LjL> zero: perhaps the ffmpeg website. or type "dpkg -L ffmpeg" to list all files from the ffmpeg package, including any documentation files.
[02:55] <Stormx2> gigamonkey: if you enable the source packages, yeah
[02:55] <wols_> gigamonkey: they are available via ubuntu repositories. e.g apt-get source
[02:55] <gigamonkey> jrib: thanks.
[02:55] <ti4mi> Which program can stat hard disk activity? just like ps/top instead for CPU for disks?
[02:55] <hendaus> wols_:  i got now , Failed to get file B:/image095.jpg: Command timed out , serial device: closing device, and how can i check the documents if it can display files ls?
[02:55] <shiryu> jrib is a lexmark printer
[02:55] <zero> LjL: ok, thank you
[02:55] <jrib> !printing > shiryu (see the private message from ubotu)
[02:55] <kadaz> I installed ubuntu and when I enable the driver for nvidia, xservice stopped. Right now Iam using onboard vga
[02:55] <Vanax> LJL: when i follow the instructions it says that i can edit the sources.list in the terminal, but when i try, it says permisison denied
[02:55] <smuggler8> how do i install ubuntu from a dvd-r?
[02:55] <jrib> shiryu: I don't know anything about it, but maybe the information ubotu sent you can help
[02:56] <LjL> gigamonkey: they're available as source packages, i don't know if synaptic can handle those. try creating a directory in your home and then typing "apt-get source <somepackage>" in that directory - that will get you the package's source. you'll have to hunt down the gnome bits, i suppose
[02:56] <shiryu> thanks
[02:56] <OhMyGods> LjL:  Can you help me, my mouse cann't move in xfce
[02:56] <mwe> smuggler8 burn and boot it
[02:56] <LjL> OhMyGods: i don't use xfce
[02:56] <_Codeman_> Can someone help me figure out how to compile LUFS?
[02:56] <OhMyGods> LjL:  oh.thanx
[02:56] <kadaz> smuggler, set your computer in the bios to boot up from cdrom first then ubuntu setup will install on computer startup.
[02:56] <jrib> gigamonkey: if you want all of gnome, it's probably a lot easier to use jhbuild for example to grab current svn
[02:56] <smuggler8> so just burn the ordinary iso to a blank dvd disc and it should boot and install just like a cd?
[02:57] <_Codeman_> I found something on one of the ubuntu forums but it failed
[02:57] <mwe> OhMyGods does it work in other window managers?
[02:57] <gigamonkey> jrib: Actually I just want Gtk+
[02:57] <OhMyGods> mwe:I just install xfce4.
[02:57] <LjL> Vanax: i have no idea what you are reading. the top section of the generated file, which is what i'm referring to, states:  If you get GPG errors with this sources.list, locate the GPG key in this file and run these commands (where KEY is replaced with that key): gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys KEY    and     gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add . please do that.
[02:57] <wols_> smuggler8: yes
[02:57] <OhMyGods> mwe:but when I use the desktop.iso , It's ok.
[02:57] <hendaus> wols_:  i got now , Failed to get file B:/image095.jpg: Command timed out , serial device: closing device, and how can i check the documents if it can display files ls, if u know just help me and thanx
[02:58] <jrib> gigamonkey: what do you want to use it for?
[02:58] <smuggler8> thanks very much for the help. I love this OS and community, it's great
[02:58] <wols_> hendaus: I don't have a mobile. so no I don't
[02:58] <OhMyGods> mwe:so,I guess it's configure is wrong.
[02:58] <gigamonkey> jrib: I just want to see how things are implemented.
[02:58] <spiderman_> hi there, i just installed ubuntu 7, when i minimize windows or browser its hiding desktp panel and not visible, can any one tell me what to do?
[02:58] <hendaus> anyone familiar with gnokii helpers?????!!
[02:58] <noob> My dvd movie still doesn't work
[02:59] <jrib> gigamonkey: apt-get source libgtk2.0-0     should get you what you want
[02:59] <hendaus> Pelo:  wb
[02:59] <OhMyGods> mwe: http://paste.ubuntu.org.cn/2259
[02:59] <mwe> OhMyGods yes. sometimes stuff that work on the live-cd doesn't work out of the box when you install the system
[02:59] <kadaz> spiderman, update your ubuntu and reboot, it will fix the issue.
[02:59] <OhMyGods> mwe:It's my config file
[02:59] <Pelo> spiderman_,  you probabaly just deleted the windows_list from the pannel, you can add it back by rightclicking the pannel and selecting add to panel and then pick windows list
[02:59] <Pelo> hello hendaus
[02:59] <killaz> I just installed the new driver of nvidia, before this I backedup my xorg.conf. Now after putting back the xorg.confI see the nvidia splashscreen pass by but then the screen goes black on my TV
[02:59] <mwe> OhMyGods what kind of mouse, usb?
[02:59] <hendaus> Pelo:  hi too, how r u :)
[02:59] <OhMyGods> mwe:yes
[03:00] <hendaus> Pelo:  are u familiar with gnokii?
[03:00] <noob> how do I know if the dvd can't be played on a computer?
[03:00] <Pelo> hendaus, ok, just keeping an eye on the channel while I am watching vid
[03:00] <spiderman_> thank you got it
[03:00] <Pelo> hendaus,  I am not , what is gnokii ?
[03:00] <Enfirith> .fi
[03:00] <gigamonkey> jrib: that seems to be doing the trick. Thanks.
[03:00] <mwe> OhMyGods can you log into the console to get a prompt?
[03:00] <angel> hello
[03:00] <mwe> OhMyGods ctrl-alt-f1
[03:00] <hendaus> Pelo:  gnokii is program for mobiles cellphone
[03:01] <kadaz> noob, right click on your cdrom located in my computer and see if DVD is listed in the properties.
[03:01] <Pelo> mwe, stop taking the lord,s name in vain
[03:01] <OhMyGods> mwe:yes,I did it.
[03:01] <kadaz> wait, thats windows. heh.
[03:01] <MSTK> exit
[03:01] <MSTK> /exit
[03:01] <lockd> anyone use directvnc?
[03:01] <angel> can any one help me recently my border together with my title bar is gone didn't know how will i'll be able to get it back
[03:01] <Pelo> hendaus, I realy donT' know anything about it, do you have a specific issue ?
[03:01] <wols_> !anyone | lockd
[03:01] <ubotu> lockd: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[03:01] <mwe> OhMyGods, lsmod|grep usb, what does that output?
[03:02] <Firebird81> hello
[03:02] <Pelo> angel, are y ou using beryl ? ask in #beryl  they will know how to fix it
[03:02] <noob> kadaz: i can see a dvd
[03:02] <angel> Pelo, ubuntu
[03:02] <kadaz> Ok. then you can play dvds
[03:02] <lockd>         (#) DirectFBError [DirectFBCreate( &dfb )] : Initialization error!
[03:02] <Firebird81> When I boot Ubuntu(x86_64) version it posts a message: keeping kernel alive, then the screen goes blank. Whats the problem?
[03:02] <hendaus> Pelo:  i am looking at anyone familiar with gnokii just heping me how to get a file from cellphone to pc?
[03:02] <lockd> not pastebin'ing one line
[03:02] <Pelo> angel, you probably need to pick a new theme,   menu > system > prefs > theme, pick on at random
[03:03] <OhMyGods> mwe:no return
[03:03] <angel> will try that Pelo
[03:03] <mwe> OhMyGods ah
[03:03] <Pelo> hendaus, chances are if gnokii is a gui app you can probably drag and drop,   check in the various menues,  or look for a guid eon the  gnokii site
[03:03] <bangers> D:\Documents and Settings\mathew_plattz>ping emp1perforce.int.brizdev.com
[03:03] <bangers> Pinging emp1perforce.int.brizdev.com [<IP_ADDRESS>]  with 32 bytes of data:
[03:03] <bangers> Reply from <IP_ADDRESS>: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=127
[03:03] <bangers> Reply from <IP_ADDRESS>: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=127
[03:03] <bangers> Reply from <IP_ADDRESS>: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=127
[03:03] <bangers> Reply from <IP_ADDRESS>: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=127
[03:03] <angel> do i need to restart my pc Pelo?
[03:03] <bangers> Ping statistics for <IP_ADDRESS>:
[03:03] <bangers>     Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
[03:03] <bangers> Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
[03:03] <mwe> OhMyGods you need to load some modules. then if it works add to to autoload
[03:03] <bangers>     Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 2ms, Average = 0ms
[03:04] <Pelo> !paste | bangers
[03:04] <ubotu> bangers: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:04] <Pelo> angel, you shouldn'T need to
[03:04] <Pelo> angel,  are you using the desktop effects ?
[03:04] <bangers> sorry, accidentally dumped my clipboard
[03:04] <angel> yes i am using desktop effect Pelo
[03:04] <tritium> bangers: we noticed ;)
[03:04] <chinomoreno> oi ppl
[03:04] <OhMyGods> mwe:you mean, I have no usb driver modules?
[03:04] <kadaz> noob. are you trying to play a dvd?
[03:04] <bangers> wols_ I cant do that because i cant unmount the root FS
[03:04] <gigamonkey> jrib: I think it worked (I had to apt-get install dpkg-dev first). Where are the sources going to be?
[03:05] <bangers> how do i umount / ?
[03:05] <Pelo> angel,  ok then goto #ubuntu-effects  they will be able to tell you how to recovers your borders and titles
[03:05] <jrib> gigamonkey: current working directory
[03:05] <mwe> OhMyGods, sudo modprobe usbcore as well as usb-uhci hid and mousedev
[03:05] <mwe> OhMyGods you do but they're not loaded, it seems
[03:05] <martin_> #ubuntu-es
[03:06] <Pelo> martin_,    /join #ubunt....
[03:06] <speedemonV12> hey anyone having problems starting ubuntu live cd up on a mac?
[03:06] <hendaus> Pelo:  thanx :) bbl
[03:06] <gigamonkey> jrib: hmmmm, that seems to be the sources of the Ubuntu package building foo, not the actual source code.
[03:07] <mayorbuttes_> Hey to all you networking gurus out there. One network is able to ping another. However, this is not the same for visa versa
[03:07] <Pelo> hendaus, best of luck
[03:07] <jrib> gigamonkey: the source code will be in there, usually under src/
[03:07] <noob> kadaz: I can't play encrypted dvd's I believe
[03:07] <speedemonV12> im gettin the error that it cant load the X window environment
[03:07] <noob> kada: what should I install?
[03:07] <speedemonV12> im on a macbook pro
[03:07] <gigamonkey> jrib: no src/ directory. No .c files anywhere under the current directory.
[03:07] <Pelo> speedemonV12,  you'll have to use the alternate sintall cd, it is text based
[03:07] <mwe> mayorbuttes firewall?
[03:08] <kadaz> noob
[03:08] <speedemonV12> i just want to use the live cd tho.. i dont want to install yet
[03:08] <stumpleit> hi I just installed ubuntu on my macbook pro i completely wiped out os x and its wierd ubuntu loads up SOOOO slow and stuff like X doesn't work, do i need to install ubuntu via bootcamp?
[03:08] <Pelo> speedemonV12, if you can'T start x you won'T have the gui , sorry
[03:08] <mwe> OhMyGods did you modprobe the modules?
[03:08] <speedemonV12> so will this be a problem when i install ubuntu also ?
[03:08] <Solver> hi all.  I got a bad GPG key from security.ubuntu.com for Dapper
[03:08] <OhMyGods> mwe:sorry,my english is poor.that' sudo modprobe usbcore as well as usb-uhci hid and mousedev" is a hole command
[03:08] <Lounge> tor - what a pain
[03:09] <Lounge> can't get it to start
[03:09] <Solver> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com dapper-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:09] <mwe> OhMyGods no ;)
[03:09] <kadaz> noob, under system/admin  check out the packager, it will give you alot of downloads.
[03:09] <mwe> OhMyGods sudo modprobe usbcore. then sudo modprobe usb-uhci etc.
[03:09] <OhMyGods> mwe:yes, I did usbcore
[03:09] <Pelo> speedemonV12, you'll need to install using the alternate cd,  but the install will proceed and use a vesa driver,  you'll get a gui and you will then be able to isntall the proper drivers for your video card
[03:09] <jrib> gigamonkey: extract the tarball in upstream
[03:10] <OhMyGods> mwe:but the other cann't modprobe
[03:10] <kadaz> noob, Iam a noob to linux too. but there alot support in packages to get things working.
[03:10] <speedemonV12> so there is nothing that i can do in order to use a live cd beforehand?
[03:10] <mwe> OhMyGods now sudo modprobe usb-uhci
[03:10] <mwe> OhMyGods it can't?
[03:10] <mwe> OhMyGods what's it say?
[03:10] <Pelo> mwe,  please don'T use the enter key as punctuation
[03:10] <OhMyGods> mwe:my toy told me:not found
[03:11] <noob> I can't find libdvdcss2
[03:11] <macd> !info libdvdcss2
[03:11] <kadaz> noob,. have you looked under add and remove and see what players work for dvds?
[03:11] <mwe> OhMyGods, for usb-uhci?
[03:11] <jrib> noob: did you read the message ubotu sent you?
[03:11] <Pelo> noob, it's not in the regular repos  you need to add them to the list,
[03:11] <ubotu> libdvdcss2: Simple foundation for reading DVDs - runtime libraries. In component extras, is optional. Version 1.2.9-0.0ubuntu6 (feisty-seveas), package size 33 kB, installed size 112 kB
[03:11] <Pelo> !dvd | noob
[03:11] <ubotu> noob: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[03:11] <OhMyGods> mwe: usb-uhci and mousedev
[03:12] <kadaz> I need to help with getting my nvidia card working. I have onboard intel vga, and ubunto installed fine. but when I enbled the driver in ubunto, it asked to restart, then on the restart, I got an error that x service has been disabled.  now I at a command line and cant use a graphical interface. Iam now on livecd
[03:12] <Solver> Hmm  the BADSIG error seems to be a bug.  Hmm
[03:12] <speedemonV12> Pelo
[03:12] <mwe> OhMyGods and hid?
[03:12] <stumpleit> is there a special way to install ubuntu on a macbook pro?
[03:12] <speedemonV12> is there anything i can do to run a live cd ?
[03:12] <gigamonkey> jrib: Ah. I was lost in a maze of twisty tarballs, all different. Thanks.
[03:13] <OhMyGods> mwe:haha, I forgot it.
[03:13] <Pelo> kadaz, I assumed you re-enabled the nvidia card in your bios ?
[03:13] <Pelo> speedemonV12, not that I know of
[03:13] <angel> how can i connect to another channel like ubuntu effect
[03:13] <Pelo> angel,  /join #ubuntu-effects
[03:13] <kadaz> Once I enable the video card in the bios, ubunto loads up and freezes at the logo progress.
[03:13] <angel> thx again Pelo
[03:13] <Rodel> how do i downgrade my gaim from 2.0.0 to 1.3.0?
[03:13] <OhMyGods> mwe:hid is ok
[03:13] <mwe> OhMyGods oh and usbmouse
[03:14] <Pelo> kadaz, boot up the recovery mode and run   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:14] <noob> omg, do I have to type in a source list?
[03:14] <Alysum> hello how can I upgrade from Edgy to Feisty using the CD instead of downloading the packages ? thanks
[03:14] <hendaus> Pelo: what is remote_filename and local_filename -->gnokii --getfile remote_filename [local_filename]
[03:14] <OhMyGods> mwe:usbmouse is ok
[03:14] <cafuego> Just insert the CD and click 'Yes' when it asks.
[03:14] <Pelo> Rodel,   in synatpic in the package'S rightclick properties you can select previous versions to be used if available
[03:15] <kadaz> k thx, ill try that now
[03:15] <mwe> OhMyGods uhci-hcd
[03:15] <OhMyGods> mwe:yes.
[03:15] <angel> Pelo, i am new in using ubuntu how would i create a work group?
[03:15] <Pelo> hendaus,  remote filename would probably the path and name of the file on your cellphone,  and local the same but on your computer
[03:15] <OhMyGods> mwe:yes.uhci-hcd is ok
[03:15] <mwe> OhMyGods psmouse
[03:16] <Alysum> it doesnt ask anything
[03:16] <Rodel> Pelo, how do i get into synaptic?
[03:16] <OhMyGods> mwe:psmouse is ok
[03:16] <mwe> OhMyGods good
[03:16] <Pelo> angel, I donT' know I'm jsut a home user I havne'T had to deal with network sfuff,    try looking in here  http://book.opensourceproject.org.cn/distrib/ubuntu/unleashed/
[03:16] <angel> thx
[03:16] <Pelo> Rodel,   menu > system > admin > synaptic package manager
[03:16] <vaca> er irc.cl
[03:16] <hendaus> Pelo: --getfile A:/image095.lpg /home/hendaus <-- is it like this?
[03:16] <h3h_timo> hey all, i just fresh installed 7.04 and was wondering if anyone had experience with cpu scaling?? the reason i havent been able to stay in ubuntu is because my fan on my laptop is always crankin and its annoying... ive installed some scaling features but any additional help is appreciated
[03:16] <mwe> OhMyGods now grep mic /etc/X11/xorg.conf and tell me the output
[03:16] <dpak> None of my players play avi file well. There is sound, but no video. This includes players like vlc. I also got win32codecs, but it still doesn't work. Can somebody help me?
[03:17] <p1ls> how can i see my processors running?
[03:17] <Pelo> hendaus,  assuming A: is the mount point of your phone yes,   but I doubt it is, this is not windows/dos , you need to figure out where you phone is mounted
[03:17] <norman> after a update in feisty the network manager applet is not showing details about the conecction, my conection is wired have conection but only manage static ip no dhcp, anyone with same problem?
[03:17] <OhMyGods> mwe:option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
[03:17] <Rodel> Pelo, it wont open...
[03:17] <p1ls> how can i see my processors running?
[03:17] <smuggler8> I have a pentium 4 laptop that I would like to install ubuntu on, however I would also like to run my existing XP install via VM is this easy to do?
[03:17] <Pelo> Rodel, try typing  gksu synaptic in the terminal
[03:18] <mwe> OhMyGods good. sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart, login and see if it works. if it does you need to add the modules to autoload
[03:18] <p1ls> how can i see my processors running?
[03:18] <Solver> smuggler8: sure.  Dapper has vmplayer as a package now.  Easier than ever
[03:18] <Pelo> smuggler8, it can be done but I haven'T managed it so far,  try asking in #vmware they would know better
[03:18] <Gerro> any tremulous fans here have annoying console spewing opengl errors on their windows box when they try to LAN game?
[03:18] <wols_> p1ls: sudo top, sudo ps aux
[03:18] <hendaus> Pelo: how can i found where's my cell phone is mounted?
[03:18] <Solver> more recent versions probably do too
[03:18] <OhMyGods> mwe:I have no gdm.
[03:18] <dpak> None of my players play avi file well. There is sound, but no video. This includes players like vlc. I also got win32codecs, but it still doesn't work. Can somebody help me?
[03:18] <Pelo> hendaus, try looking in the system monitor  4th tab I think
[03:19] <Solver> smuggler8: oh your _existing_ install.  Sorry, I should have read more closely.  Yeah that will be trickier
[03:19] <noob> AH, I can't add a source list
[03:19] <chinomoreno> my temperatures reach 100C in windows i resolved this with a program "notebook hardware control"  and i reduced voltages and temperatures droped a little bit anyone can help me doing this in linux , i'm noob
[03:19] <OhMyGods> mwe:I'm install a base system,then install x-window-system-core xfce4
[03:19] <Pelo> hendaus, ifyour cellphone is being recognised as a storage media it should have been mounted to your desktop
[03:19] <smuggler8> hmm, thought so. maybe i should just backup and do a fresh install
[03:19] <Rodel> Pelo, it returns "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"
[03:19] <hendaus> Pelo:  [local_filename]  <-- what should be for example?
[03:19] <mwe> OhMyGods then startx and see if it works
[03:19] <Gerro> chinomoreno: do acpi -t
[03:19] <chinomoreno> ok
[03:19] <Pelo> Rodel,  then you have a problem, and I don'T knwo how to fix it
[03:20] <[Thom] > What is a good partition size for Ubuntu 6 Server?
[03:20] <Rodel> ut oh
[03:20] <dpak> None of my players play avi file well. There is sound, but no video. This includes players like vlc. I also got win32codecs, but it still doesn't work. Can somebody help me?
[03:20] <Pelo> hendaus,   /home/hendaus/whateveryouwant.xxx
[03:20] <smuggler8> what i would like to achieve is a stable ubuntu system with beryl. But be able to run the odd MS or maybe even OS x software
[03:20] <OhMyGods> mwe:no,I still cann't move it
[03:20] <Alysum> upgrade is using the net not the CD...
[03:20] <Pelo> dpak,  in mplyare check in properties under vidoe make sure the X11 one is selected,
[03:20] <mwe> [Thom]  that depends on a lot of things
[03:21] <hendaus> Pelo:  ok, but still i dont found where is my cell phone mounted?
[03:21] <mwe> OhMyGods hmm
[03:21] <Pelo> Alysum,  you can also upgrade using the alternate install cd
[03:21] <shiryu> someone can help me when i open frostwire the windows i white nothing appears
[03:21] <Alysum> Pelo: how can I force it to use the CD ?
[03:21] <jeanke> hi there im new here ;)
[03:21] <mwe> OhMyGods well at least it wont work without those modules
[03:21] <Pelo> hendaus, I realy can't help you with that bit, I donT' know how gnokii works,  check on their site or try finding a channel for them
[03:21] <dpak> Pelo: I don't think I've downloaded MPlayer. Is there a way to make it work with vlc?
[03:21] <mwe> OhMyGods does it work with gpm?
[03:21] <chinomoreno> Gerro,  Battery 1: discharging, 71%, rate information unavailable.
[03:21] <chinomoreno>      Thermal 1: ok, 54.0 degrees C      ,  with pluged reaches 90/100 degrees
[03:21] <Pelo> !upgrade > Alysum  check pm for instructions
[03:22] <smuggler8> I can just see rebooting being a problem. Can someone tell me if VM is a viable way of running xp/OS X software?
[03:22] <noob> W: GPG error: http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net feisty-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[03:22] <mwe> OhMyGods and ls /dev/input/mice present?
[03:22] <noob> what should I do?
[03:22] <Pelo> dpak,  same proceedure
[03:22] <noob> it's not working
[03:22] <hendaus> Pelo:  ok
[03:22] <oldude67_> shiryu, if you have java installed go to term and type in frostwire
[03:22] <[Thom] > mwe: Ok, I have 2 250G drives that I'm using collectively as a RAID1 device.  I'm not installing a desktop at all, and the system is really just going to be a file server plus LAMP
[03:22] <Alysum> txa
[03:22] <Pelo> noob,  you need to get the key,  the wget thing on the site
[03:22] <Alysum> txs
[03:22] <OhMyGods> mwe:yes , mice file is there
[03:23] <OhMyGods> mwe: what's gpm,sorry
[03:23] <noob> http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/dists/feisty-seveas/extras/
[03:23] <noob> what key
[03:23] <mwe> OhMyGods is xserver-xorg-input-mouse installed?
[03:23] <OhMyGods> mwe:I need install it?
[03:23] <chinomoreno> Gerro,  no?
[03:23] <shiryu> olddude67_ and then?
[03:23] <mwe> OhMyGods gpm is a mouse daemon for use in the console
[03:24] <Fenster> hey guys, anyone using ubuntu full time and then windows in virtualbox
[03:24] <Gerro> chinomoreno: umm turn on acpid service then
[03:24] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, it's usually just best to ask your real question straight out ;-)
[03:24] <chinomoreno> how? sorry im noob
[03:24] <Pelo> noob, just download the deb package mentionned   http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/pool/feisty-seveas/extras/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-0.0ubuntu6_i386.deb
[03:24] <oldude67_> shiryu, hit enter and it should run...
[03:24] <gecko89> hi, wondering if anyone can help me configure a LAMP server
[03:24] <Fenster> that was my question
[03:24] <Fenster> then I would ask... is it pretty good?
[03:24] <OhMyGods> mwe: I key in "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-input-mouse", but no prompt
[03:25] <shiryu> it open but it only is white
[03:25] <Alysum> is the alternate installation CD the same as the Feisty desktop edition cd ?
[03:25] <supernova_> i had a huge problem earlier today.. i couldnt install the ati drivers from their homepage (a .run file)... i got a syntax error bad substitutan or something
[03:25] <norman> anyone
[03:25] <supernova_> any ideas onhow to get pass that?
[03:25] <shiryu> it appears frostwire and then a window open but theres nothing there
[03:25] <Pelo> Alysum,  no,  it says alternate  ,  the desktop one is the new name for live cd
[03:25] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, depends what it's good for.  It's good for some windows progs, not for others.  Basically, anything I like I can run in the vmware, but, not 3d apps like games, and it is slightly slower than natively on windows.
[03:25] <oldude67_> then have you installed frostwire?
[03:25] <gr1mr34per> anyone know any drivers for broadcom 802.11 g/b for xubuntu?
[03:25] <norman> why there dhcp configuration disapear?
[03:25] <norman> someone
[03:25] <mwe> OhMyGods try this first.
[03:25] <norman> could help please
[03:26] <Fenster> Lunar_Lamp... so you think I would have pretty good luck with just standard apps,,, not games
[03:26] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, yup :-)
[03:26] <Alysum> Pelo: but wouldnt the live cd have the latest packages to upgrade ?
[03:26] <Fenster> and should run with little slow down?
[03:26] <Pelo> norman, try not to use the enter key as punctiation,  and I donT' know, check the forum
[03:26] <Lunar_Lamp> there are plenty of guides on setting up vmware too :-)
[03:26] <mwe> OhMyGods sudo cat /dev/input/mouse0 and move the mouse around, tell me if you see funny stuff
[03:26] <dpak> Pelo: I went to preference and looked at "Output modules" under "Video" and clicked on "X11". It shows check on "Use shared memory" and no check on "Alternate fullscreen method".
[03:26] <greg_g> how does one enable a swap partition which is already made?
[03:26] <chinomoreno> Gerro,  i put sudo acpid service , appeared acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy
[03:26] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, just don't expect any devices to magically start working that don't in linux - you can't get hardware not detected by the linux kernel to work in vmware.
[03:26] <Fenster> Lunar_Lamp... any idea if the windows keycheck will hiccup with a fresh install in vmware
[03:26] <Pelo> Alysum,  you cannot upgrade from the desktop cd it isn'T made for it , you need to use the alternate install cd for the version you want to upgrade to
[03:26] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, it worked for me :-)
[03:27] <Alysum> Pelo: ok thks
[03:27] <shiryu> yes olddude67_
[03:27] <gr1mr34per> any drivers available for broadcom 802.11 wireless recieveR?
[03:27] <Fenster> Lunar_Lamp... mine is legit :\
[03:27] <noob> Pelo, where should I put it?
[03:27] <norman> ok
[03:27] <Pelo> gr1mr34per, try searching for you model in the forum
[03:27] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, yeah, as long as you don't have it installed elsewhere then it should be fine :-)
[03:27] <p1ls> how can i see my processors running?
[03:27] <Fenster> so Lunar_Lamp... I must have full hardware support in ubuntu, to have the gear work in windows xp?
[03:27] <oldude67_> shiryu, did you have java installed before frostwire or after?
[03:27] <shiryu> after
[03:27] <Pelo> noob,  on your desktop and then dble click it
[03:27] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, correct.
[03:27] <Pelo> p1ls,  top
[03:28] <oldude67_> shiryu, i had to delete frostwire and reinstall it to get it to work when i did that...
[03:28] <dpak> Pelo: Also there are textfield next to "X11 display", and some kind of vale for "Screen for fullscreen mode".
[03:28] <p1ls> what abour processors like programs
[03:28] <Alysum> Pelo: where can I DL the alternate cd pls ?
[03:28] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, for example, your keyboard multimedia buttons aren't detected by the linux kernel - they won't work in vmware either.
[03:28] <Fenster> interesting.. I really want to switch to ubuntu, but I like some of my windows apps
[03:28] <shiryu> ok ill try it
[03:28] <dpak> p1ls: type "top"
[03:28] <Fenster> Lunar_Lamp.. I gotcha
[03:28] <p1ls> did
[03:28] <OhMyGods> mwe:It still running.I press Ctrl+C then return.
[03:28] <Pelo> dpak, I have no idea what that means
[03:28] <imontoya> hola
[03:28] <Fenster> is there a laptop compatibilty chart that you know of?
[03:28] <Pelo> !download | Alysum
[03:28] <ubotu> Alysum: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[03:28] <noob> how do I install a deb package with synaptics?
[03:28] <dpak> Pelo: Ok
[03:28] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, I used vmware for a while (stats program called SPSS I needed to use), though I don't even use that anymore - pure linux :-)
[03:29] <[Thom] > mwe: Ok, I have 2 250G drives that I'm using collectively as a RAID1 device.  I'm not installing a desktop at all, and the system is really just going to be a file server plus LAMP
[03:29] <mwe> OhMyGods nothing happend. like strange characters on the console, moving the mouse ?
[03:29] <Pelo> dpak,  this is  the video player problem ? just leave it blank
[03:29] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, it's generally best to look around at laptops and then try and see how compatible they are with linux.  As a general rule though, IBM/Lenovo has great linux support.
[03:29] <OhMyGods> mwe:no thing
[03:29] <Pelo> dpak,  you just need to select the x11 thing , that is all ,
[03:29] <chinomoreno> Gerro,  plse py laptop will burn when my bat over lol
[03:29] <Fenster> Im on an HP
[03:29] <mwe> OhMyGods hmm
[03:29] <spikeb> dell has a linux laptop.
[03:29] <Pelo> dpak,  you can also probably get better help on this in #vlc
[03:29] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, ah, if you have the laptop already - just google for your laptop model and "linux".
[03:30] <KerBeroS> hello!
[03:30] <noob> pelo: I got amd64
[03:30] <dpak> Pelo: ok
[03:30] <Pelo> noob, sigh, hold on
[03:30] <noob> .D
[03:31] <Fenster> grrrr
[03:31] <mwe> OhMyGods I'm not sure what to do next, sorry
[03:31] <Fenster> stinkin wifi drivers
[03:31] <Fenster> why are the linux gurus having so much trouble with them?
[03:31] <p1ls> how can i kill gkrellm?
[03:31] <erstazi> hello, every time I use svn and I use an url with http:// I get "svn: Unrecognized URL scheme for 'http://svn.syscp.org/trunk/syscp-1.3'"
[03:31] <OhMyGods> mwe:I can exec "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:31] <erstazi> and of course, I verified that the url is existing
[03:31] <Lunar_Lamp> Fenster, ah yes, wifi can be hard as the wireless chip makers don't release the info needed to write the drivers.  It's possible they will work via ndiswrapper though (a way of using the windows drivers in linux)
[03:31] <OhMyGods> mwe: ok.thank you very much.
[03:32] <p1ls> how can i kill gkrellm?
[03:32] <mwe> OhMyGods typing sudo cat /dev/input/mice then moving the mouse should output funny characters to the terminal
[03:32] <Pelo> noob, the key I was talking about earlier is on the frontpage   http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/, use it your repos will be enabled and you will be able to get everying with apt-get
[03:32] <mwe> p1ls killall gkrellm
[03:32] <mwe> p1ls like with xscreensaver
[03:32] <p1ls> thx
[03:32] <chump> !fuse
[03:32] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[03:32] <OhMyGods> mwe:no.
[03:33] <chinomoreno> can anyone help me reduce voltages?
[03:33] <asdf> can anyone recommend a linux-only (not available in windows or mac) virtualization package?
[03:33] <Ubulindy> I see your name, but not where you posted anything
[03:33] <gr1mr34per> all the way on top
[03:33] <mo0osah> !ntfs
[03:33] <gr1mr34per> lol
[03:33] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[03:33] <gr1mr34per> !wlan
[03:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wlan - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:33] <mwe> OhMyGods. I'm almost sure it's because of some module not being loaded. I'm not sure which, though.
[03:33] <mo0osah> !ntfs-3g
[03:33] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[03:34] <shiryu> oldude67_ i quit frostwire then reinstall it and its the same
[03:34] <gr1mr34per> anyone know any drivers for broadcom 802.11 g/b wlan drivers?
[03:34] <rhys> gr1mr34per, the bcm43xx drivers?
[03:34] <OhMyGods> mwe:ok.then I reinstall the whole iso. thank you for all.
[03:34] <gr1mr34per> no clue
[03:34] <mwe> OhMyGods wait
[03:34] <gr1mr34per> its not showing me the model
[03:34] <oldude67_> shiryu, then you might need the help of someone that has had the same problem, mine worked after that...
[03:34] <rhys> download bcmfwcutter, use it with your .sys file to extract the firmware to /lib/firmware
[03:34] <[Thom] > What is a good partition swap size for a 2X250G RAID system?  Also, what is a good partition size for /home on the same system?
[03:35] <noob> Should I import the keyfile?
[03:35] <oldude67_> shiryu,sorry i cant help you anymore...
[03:35] <mwe> OhMyGods reinstalling will bring you in the same situation again. do the same thing and expecting a different outcome is not rational
[03:35] <rhys> gr1mr34per, second.
[03:35] <shiryu> ok or can you tell me
[03:35] <shiryu> what file i select when i open bittorrent
[03:35] <wols> [Thom] : swap size depends purely on available RAM and inteded usage
[03:36] <wols> [Thom] : /home size on intended usage as well
[03:36] <Pelo> [Thom] , /home should be as big as you can,   swap is based on the memory you have availabe, the lesser memory the bigger the swap,
[03:36] <rhys> gr1mr34per, http://wiki.zenwalk.org/index.php/Broadcom_bcm43xx_native < you can get the bcm43xx-fwcutter program from apt.
[03:36] <shiryu> and says open location for bittorrent meta file
[03:36] <OhMyGods> mwe:I'm installed the base-system. now I want to install the desktop.iso
[03:36] <oldude67_> shiryu, i only use frostwire or limewire
[03:36] <shiryu> mm ok
[03:36] <rhys> gr1mr34per, if yours is a 4306 (you can check by lspci) then the file i provided will make it work.
[03:36] <Pelo> OhMyGods, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:36] <mwe> OhMyGods try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop first
[03:36] <shiryu> nobody knows what i do when i open bittorrent and it says open location for bittorrent meta file?
[03:36] <mwe> OhMyGods or xubuntu-desktop
[03:36] <drini> is there a package to read an unfinished-burned data dvd (lights went off 30 secs before finishing) so most of the data is there,but the disk can't be mounted
[03:36] <[Thom] > wols: I have 1G of ram and this will be Ubuntu server that will mostly be used as a file server and LAMP.
[03:36] <drini> ?
[03:36] <OhMyGods> mwe:ok
[03:36] <mwe> OhMyGods if you want xfce4
[03:37] <mwe> OhMyGods ubuntu-desktop is gnome
[03:37] <mwe> OhMyGods maybe you're missing something in the install for the mouse to work properly
[03:37] <Pelo> [Thom] ,  I have 1 gig of ram and 2 gig of swap and I barely use the swap,   mind you I'm only on a home desktop
[03:37] <wols> how big is your mysql dataset?
[03:37] <rhys> does anyone have a good howto on Jack? i need to make gtick work with it
[03:37] <OhMyGods> mwe:yes.maby is "x-window-system-core" is too small
[03:38] <mwe> Pelo  2 gigs of swap. wow
[03:38] <[Thom] > wols: me?  It won't be very large.
[03:38] <Pelo> mwe,  it was the default with my original install
[03:38] <mwe> Pelo I see
[03:38] <OhMyGods> Pelo:  thank u. I try xubuntu first
[03:38] <n2diy> can I apt-get edubuntu?
[03:38] <mwe> Pelo it's a lot
[03:38] <mistone> can I dual boot windows 98 with ubuntu ?
[03:38] <Pelo> mwe,  like I said , I barely use any
[03:39] <mwe> Pelo I suppose it would suggest 16GB swap if you had 8GB of ram then?
[03:39] <Pelo> mwe,  I barely use half my ram
[03:39] <noob> pelo: I got it to work, but i cant find libdvdcss
[03:39] <julioh> toche ubuntu
[03:39] <Pelo> mwe,  as far as I know it is the other way around,  less RAM more swap,  swap is more or less a ram extension
[03:39] <[Thom] > Also, since I am setting up two drives in a RAID configuration do I have to have swap space on each drive?  I'm guessing not.
[03:40] <Pelo> noob, are you sure it is installed ?
[03:40] <Pelo> [Thom] ,  I would assume not
[03:40] <robert_> is there a way to enable all defaults in Beryl Settings manager?
[03:40] <noob> pelo: It's not complaining now on the new s
[03:40] <Pelo> robert_, ask in #beryl
[03:40] <robert_> i did
[03:40] <mwe> Pelo there is an old rule of thumb to have double the swap of your ram but that doesn't make sense with a lot of ram. like you say little ram -> much swap
[03:40] <mistone> does it dual boot 98
[03:41] <[Thom] > I keep reading that it's good to put /home on it's own partition, how large should that partition be?
[03:41] <[Thom] > and /tmp is a good one to partition off as well...
[03:41] <paroxysm> i get a verbose shutdown with no usplash, but only on shutdown, boot up is fine. even when i tried the feisty livecd it was like that. any ideas?
[03:42] <noob> damn, why isn't libdvdcss showing up?
[03:42] <Pelo> mwe,  not realy my area of expertise,  but I would expect that someone running a lot of memory instensive apps might need more swap even with a lot of ram
[03:42] <drini> is there  a way to raw-read a data dvd and extract the files from a failed burning?
[03:42] <mwe> [Thom]  that depends on how many movies and stuff you wanna keep there
[03:42] <OldSchoolkz> Can i update from an earlier edition of ubuntu to the latest with out making a cd
[03:42] <spikeb> yes OldSchoolkz
[03:42] <drowner> Hi everyone. WHo wants to help me?
[03:42] <drowner> I'll make it worth your while ;)
[03:43] <redcard> drowner: Just go ahead and ask :)
[03:43] <[Thom] > mwe: Movies? I will have a lot of files on this server, but do they need to be in the /home directory?
[03:43] <killown> What I need to affiliate for ubuntu project?
[03:43] <drowner> I want to remove windows. I haven't booted it for 10 weeks. So i can live without it
[03:43] <Pelo> [Thom] , it's more of a question of how much you need for the rest ,  part a part for swap and for / and use what is left for /home ,  I have 10 gig for / , 2 gig for swap and the rest for my /home one a 80 gig hdd,    and 10 gig is too much for my /   I could have gone with 5  I barely use 2.8
[03:43] <mwe> Pelo maybe yes. I think having 16GB swapped out would suck, though. but I'm just thinking. that can be dangerous
[03:44] <Gerro> http://tremulous.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4745
[03:44] <Pelo> mwe,  not dangerous , just useless,   swap will only realy be used if your memory gets maxed out
[03:44] <redcard> drowner: Well, two recommendations.  You can reinstall Ubuntu and use the entire disk.. or .. you can format the disk using mkfs.ext3fs
[03:44] <redcard> drowner: I would honestly recommend the first one.. a nice reinstall :)
[03:44] <mwe> Pelo I meant thinking can be dangerous ;)
[03:44] <[Thom] > Pelo: how much I need for the rest of what?
[03:44] <drowner> redcard: i like my ubuntu just the way it is ;)
[03:45] <redcard> drowner: Cool :)
[03:45] <drowner> so what i was going to do, cause i want to make my / partition bigger is boot my gparted cd
[03:45] <mwe> Pelo I think your partitioning scheme sounds all right, though.
[03:45] <drowner> delete the ntfs partition, and make the / one bigger. But i have questions.
[03:45] <OldSchoolkz> spikeb  do you know of a link to this information
[03:46] <spikeb> !upgrade | OldSchoolkz
[03:46] <ubotu> OldSchoolkz: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[03:46] <redcard> drowner: I've always just reinstalled, personally.. but.. I don't think what you are saying is fundamentally bad or wrong.
[03:46] <Pelo> [Thom] ,  you need to read the rest of what I wrote,     you only need about 10 gig to run ubuntu  the rest you use for /home
[03:46] <mwe> Pelo 10 GB for / could be nice if you decide to install a lot of stuff in /opt later for example. an 60+ for /home is sure a lot
[03:46] <drowner> redcard: my questions are, i guess i have to unmount the / , i dont know if the gparted live cd will mount it, but thats cool, i can work that out
[03:46] <OldSchoolkz> Thanks that was what i was looking for
[03:47] <mwe> drowner it wont
[03:47] <[Thom] > mwe: If this is going to be a fileserver with a lot of .mp3's, where should I keep the rest of the space, /home ?
[03:47] <Pelo> mwe,  I also have a 60 gig partition on another drive that I mouned in /home/user/download and I send all my p2p stuff there so my main hdd doesnt, get over used
[03:47] <drowner> redcard: now, my concerns are with grub: do i need to make the / partition bootable? Will removing hd(0,0) cause grub to crack a mental? if you know what i mean?
[03:47] <wols> [Thom] : create an extra "network drive" directory
[03:47] <chrometiger> could someone point me in a good direction other that ubuntu's "restricted formats" page to install w32codecs to play .wmv files ?
[03:47] <mwe> [Thom]  you wouldn't serve files in /home
[03:47] <redcard> drowner: This is honestly why I'd just reinstall :P  I've never really done this stuff.. I just output my list of packages, copy my data, and reinstall :)
[03:48] <[Thom] > mwe: ok, so I should create another partition called like /media or something
[03:48] <Pelo> chrometiger, http://seveas.theplayboymansion.net/seveas/
[03:48] <mwe> [Thom]  not media, but yes
[03:48] <wols> [Thom] : yes
[03:48] <chump> !esata
[03:48] <wols> media is already taken...
[03:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about esata - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:48] <Pelo> [Thom] ,  you donT' want to use  /media it is being used by ubuntu
[03:48] <drowner> redcard: I know what your saying. but i'm not sure if i can be bothered reinstalling all the codecs, gtkpod, etc etc etc. Fortunately, all my music is on an external drive.
[03:48] <spikeb> bah. mediabuntu is madae exactly for stuff like w32codecs.
[03:49] <keanne> anyone using vmware server from automatix?
[03:49] <[Thom] > mwe: Thanks
[03:49] <redcard> drowner: Hmm.
[03:49] <[Thom] > wols: Thanks
[03:49] <kadaz> back
[03:49] <[Thom] > Pelo: Thanks
[03:49] <Pelo> [Thom] , you'Re welcome
[03:49] <chrometiger> Pelo: that for w32codecs ?
[03:49] <mwe> [Thom]  some people like to have just one large root partition
[03:49] <Pelo> chrometiger, it is in there , somewhere
[03:50] <keanne> how do you install vmware tools? it is disabled when guest OS is off, but can't be installed when guest OS is on.
[03:50] <chrometiger> hehe
[03:50] <[Thom] > mwe: Yeah that would be easiest but I read that for performance I should have at least /home and a swap
[03:50] <Pelo> keanne, try asking in #vmware
[03:50] <wols> keanne: ask #vmware not us
[03:50] <mwe> keanne it can only be installed when the guest os is on
[03:50] <Pelo> kadaz,  I don'T take private msg , talk to me in the channel
[03:51] <keanne> Pelo wols, i was hoping there are other things which needs to be installed via apt-get
[03:51] <noob> ah, I'm installing it manually
[03:51] <keanne> mwe, thanks.
[03:51] <mwe> [Thom]  swap yes
[03:51] <drowner> so, does anyone have any clues for me?
[03:51] <wols> !automatix | keanne
[03:51] <ubotu> keanne: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[03:51] <Pelo> drowner, what is your issue again ?
[03:51] <drowner> I want to remove windows. I haven't booted it for 10 weeks. So i can live without it
[03:51] <drowner> delete the ntfs partition, and make the / one bigger. But i have questions.
[03:52] <drowner> redcard: now, my concerns are with grub: do i need to make the / partition bootable? Will removing hd(0,0) cause grub to crack a mental? if you know what i mean?
[03:52] <mwe> [Thom]  I doubt creating a seperate /home pertition will influence performance much is anything
[03:52] <mwe> [Thom]  there might be other reasons, though
[03:52] <Pelo> drowner, boot up the live cd ,  move the / partiontion,  the rezise it , you need to move it first because you canT' resize to the left,  donT, mess with grub
[03:52] <[Thom] > mwe: Like?
[03:53] <wols> drowner: totally removing it will reorder things. keep a live cd handy. reinstall grub. or delete the partition unde ubuntu and immedialtey reinstall grub and check menu.lst and fstab
[03:53] <keanne> ubotu, oh, is that so? i am still trying out ubuntu, and the only reason why i installed automatix was i read an article about ubuntu + automatix. guess i should have come here first before installing it.
[03:53] <Pelo> keanne, ubotu  is a bot
[03:53] <Pelo> !ubotu
[03:53] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:53] <rococo> a separate /home is useful because it lets you keep your docs/multimedia/whatever files separate from your system/OS files, so you can actually use the same /home for multiple distros, or just have an easy time should you ever have to reinstall
[03:53] <Pelo> !botsnack
[03:53] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[03:53] <mwe> [Thom]  like making reinstallation easier, or if you muck up one partition the other one will stay
[03:53] <drowner> wols: so i SHOULDNT remove the NTFS partition?
[03:53] <robert_> is there a way to enable all defaults in Beryl Settings manager?
[03:54] <noob> oh god, why must it be so hard
[03:54] <wols> docta_v: you can remove it. or reformat to use with ubuntu
[03:54] <mwe> [Thom]  I'd definately create a seperate partition for the files to be served
[03:54] <[Thom] > mwe: Can you see any reason to split off /tmp into its own partition?
[03:54] <Pelo> drowner,   remove the ntfs partition,   then move the / partiton to the left, then resize the / partition fo use the available space,  and do not mess with grub
[03:55] <[Thom] > mwe: and if so, how big?
[03:55] <rococo> robert_: in settings manager, click "Settings, Profiles, and Desktop Integration", choose <Default>, click "Load/Activate", done
[03:55] <[Thom] > mwe: same question for /var
[03:55] <Pelo> noob, because you have led a bad life
[03:55] <mwe> [Thom]  not really. I know some people like it
[03:55] <wols> hotlug: pelo how will grub find its stage1.5 when you move the partition? answer: it can't
[03:55] <chump> can i use a eSata hard drive like a usb hard drive in 7.04 ? or i need to add it to the fstab ?
[03:55] <drowner> pelo: grub will be ok? I mean, i guess it currently looks for menu.lst on hd0,2 or something, but now it will need to look on 0,0, does this make sense?
[03:55] <noob> the thing is that there should be amd64 version of it,
[03:55] <wols> Pelo: if you move the partition that has grub files on it you ALWAYS need to reinstall grub
[03:56] <Pelo> wols, good point,  he'll need to reinstall grub
[03:56] <robert_> rocco there is no tab for settins in Beryl Settings manaer
[03:56] <wols> Pelo: and if a parttion was hda2 and is now suddenly hda1, you might at least check menu.lst and fstab
[03:56] <mwe> [Thom]  if I were you I'd create a partition for the file server a swap and maybe /home if you like
[03:56] <[Thom] > mwe: In the official Ubuntu book it says to do that so you can pick ReiserFS for /tmp because it handles many small files much better, but I don't know how big to make it.
[03:56] <wols> or grub might not boot
[03:56] <noob> and all this dapper edgy multiverse universe world bad bla bla bla, it's makes no sense
[03:56] <rococo> robert_: it's in the sidebar under "General Options"
[03:56] <wols> thomax: don't make it an extra partition
[03:56] <Pelo> dromer,  save yourself some trouble,   bakup your /home ,  reinstall ubuntu from scratch using the whole hdd , make a seperate partition for /home
[03:56] <noob> it
[03:57] <mwe> [Thom]  don't bother it's usually not that busy anyway
[03:57] <wols> [Thom] : depending how big your websites will be you can make /var one
[03:57] <[Thom] > wols: it will likely only be 1 website.
[03:57] <drowner> pelo: will i lose all my installed apps and codecs, etc?
[03:57] <mwe> [Thom]  you don't need like 10 partitions then
[03:57] <corevette> how do you run .bin files?
[03:57] <wols> [Thom] : one website can be big or smalle. www.google..com is only one website
[03:58] <Pelo> noob,  there are a lot of things that are not available for amd64 , that is why we generaly tell ppl to install the i386 version
[03:58] <Pelo> drowner, yep, but they are easy enough to reinstall
[03:58] <mwe> [Thom]  for a busy server with many connections it might make sense
[03:58] <Pelo> drowner, and you'll know what you're doing this time
[03:58] <[Thom] > mwe: What might make sense?
[03:59] <[Thom] > wols: Good point.
[03:59] <kadaz> !install
[03:59] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues - See also !automate
[03:59] <dfwlinuxguy> [Thom]  i've been doing Linux since 97..on my servers I make a / - /home and /var - /var because if the logs overflowed it can effect the whole system...don't worry about slicing it up a hundred ways
[03:59] <mwe> [Thom]  I'd stick to a partition for the file server a swap and maybe /home.
[04:00] <caravel> I seem to remember the installer's gui gave a more 'guided' choice about where to store grub, right ? I just entered "(hda0,5)" in the advanced box, crossing fingers :)
[04:00] <[Thom] > And /home should be like 20G ?
[04:00] <mwe> [Thom]  creating a /tmp partition with a file system that handles small files well if the site is really busy. and /var as well
[04:00] <drowner> could i not do the following: use gparted to delete the NTFS partition, load a live cd distro (i use DSL, cause my computer is slow) and then modify menu.lst and fstab?
[04:00] <[Thom] > mwe: /home should be like 20G ?
[04:00] <noob> should I reinstall with the 32 bit version?
[04:00] <noob> But will it go slower?
[04:00] <caravel> s/hda0,5/hd0,5/ (of course)
[04:00] <Pelo> noob,  not realy
[04:01] <mwe> [Thom]  that depends on what you wanna keep there and how many users there'll be
[04:01] <noob> oh god, 4 in the morning but whata heck
[04:01] <dfwlinuxguy> x
[04:01] <[Thom] > 20 G might be too much.
[04:01] <dfwlinuxguy> [Thom} - / 10G - /var 4G the rest /home
[04:01] <mwe> [Thom]  if you don't keep your movies and stuff in your homedir 20GB is more than plenty
[04:02] <Joshooa> Hey is Beryl Linux only? I thought I read somewhere it could make XP 3d but I can't find anything now that I Google it.
[04:02] <Pelo> noob,  it only takes  30 minutes to install,  mind you the dl is another thing
[04:02] <wols> thomax: two partitions: / and /fileserver
[04:02] <wols> nojthing else
[04:02] <wols> make it say 20GB or /
[04:02] <[Thom] > wols: Swap
[04:02] <dfwlinuxguy> it also depends on if you are using it as a mailserver and if you are using /var/mail or Maildir
[04:02] <wols> for /
[04:02] <mwe> Joshooa it wont work in windows
[04:02] <[Thom] > dfwlinuxguy:Not a mailserver
[04:02] <wols> [Thom] : you don't need it but if you insist: 512MB swap
[04:02] <Pelo> Joshooa, that is the first thing I heard of beryl on windows,  try asking in #beryl they might know (but expect a chuckle at the very least)
[04:03] <Joshooa> mwe: Oh, do you know of a 3d desktop I can run in Windows XP, my roommates are really jealous of Ubuntu now.
[04:03] <dfwlinuxguy> then 4G is plenty for the logs - sometimes on a small drive I will make it 2G
[04:03] <wols> [Thom] : make the partitions ext3 so you can easily resize when need arises
[04:03] <noob> 10 min download,
[04:03] <wols> Joshooa: #windows
[04:03] <[Thom] > wols: I was going to make them RAID1
[04:03] <Joshooa> Pelo: I don't know where I read it, but I SWEAR I saw somethings somewhere, I don't care too much I don't use Windows but they do.
[04:03] <wols> [Thom] : software raid I hope?
[04:03] <dfwlinuxguy> {thom} raid 1 is good
[04:03] <[Thom] > wols Yes
[04:03] <noob> then I can play flash
[04:03] <wols> [Thom] : what raid controller?
[04:03] <Pelo> Joshooa, get them to switch
[04:04] <noob> but what a waste of power
[04:04] <dfwlinuxguy> use software raid
[04:04] <[Thom] > wols: Software
[04:04] <wols> [Thom] : with 20GB / you still have 230GB for fileserver
[04:04] <[Thom] > dfwlinuxguy: Yeah, the drives are SCSI and already in the system
[04:04] <mwe> dfwlinuxguy he's setting up a file server. assigning most of the disk to /home doesn't make sense
[04:04] <caravel> Joshooa: get them to run windows within a virtual machine under ubuntu :) that way theyll get the whole desktop to wave at once, lol
[04:04] <Joshooa> Pelo My Roommates? They would except they play Doom 3 and Microsoft Flight Simulator, so if I can't get those to run well in Ubuntu they wont do it.
[04:04] <noob> when will everyone go over to 64 bit?
[04:04] <wols> thomax: 250GB scsi? pricy
[04:05] <Joshooa> caravel: How is that performance wise? I can't get even Pocket Tanks Deluxe to run well, or with sound.
[04:05] <rococo> dfwlinuxguy: are you talking about servers? because 2G of logs for a home system seems rather exorbitant. I let cron just delete my logs by the time one has been moved to #6 or so
[04:05] <Pelo> Joshooa, tell them they are lame and that all the cool kids are using ubuntu now
[04:05] <dfwlinuxguy> {thom]  home for me is where all the mail, files and websites are so it only make sense to make it the largest
[04:05] <Joshooa> Pelo; I do, I do
[04:05] <wols> noob: ubuntu is long gone over to it. it's the crappy proprietary software vendors who aren't
[04:05] <[Thom] > wols: Yep.
[04:05] <Pelo> Joshooa,  tell them the first one is free,  and so is the second and the third ...
[04:05] <Joshooa> Pelo At work, everywhere I go, Windows sucks, Microsoft sucks, switch to Ubuntu, although Microsoft's Surface is cool.
[04:05] <wols> noob: as long as you can stay with purely Free software all is peachy. one closed source clusterfsck: trouble
[04:06] <mwe> dfwlinuxguy It's very non-standard to create a file server in your homedir
[04:06] <noob> kind of noticed it
[04:06] <caravel> Joshooa: ++ 2Gb ram && double cpu
[04:06] <rococo> Joshooa: I would totally spill my coffee all over Microsoft surface within a day of getting it.
[04:06] <noob> flash, dvd, but ati seems to be working, or maybe not
[04:06] <wols> noob: so it's not the linux community which holds back 64bitness
[04:06] <Oni-Dracula|lapp> question:  What exactly is a "buffer i/o error"
[04:06] <dfwlinuxguy> [rococo]  2G is nothing...unless you have an old small drive.. could make it smaller if you are tight on space
[04:06] <Joshooa> caravel: I can get the 2GB but double cpu I can't, especially on two other computers
[04:07] <dfwlinuxguy> {mwe} sorry...not being rude but according to who?
[04:07] <[Thom] > wols: So I partition / @ 20G, Swap @ 250M and fileserver @ remainder and pick RAID as the partition type for / and /fileserver, correct?
[04:07] <rococo> dfwlinuxguy: it's not the cost, it's just... that's a lot of text that I'm probably never going to read ;-)
[04:07] <Joshooa> rococo: I think it's water proof, they showed using it as a table, and they put a drink on it, and it asked if they were getting thirsty?
[04:07] <wols> thomax: yes
[04:07] <Joshooa> rococo: Or at a restaurant, so, I don't know if coffee would matter.  Couldn't be good though.
[04:07] <dfwlinuxguy> [rococo]  home system - yes / server - no
[04:08] <dfwlinuxguy> [rococo]  you're right
[04:08] <cerealkiller219> is there a guide to configure sound cards?
[04:08] <kadaz> I installed ubuntu with onboard vga, and once in ubuntu I enabled the nvidia card and rebooted. Then on boot up, I got a Xservice error message saying its disabled. I tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and set it to nvidia. I rebooted and still doesnt work.
[04:08] <rococo> dfwlinuxguy: oops, that's what I meant. It's exorbitant UNLESS you're talking about servers
[04:08] <cerealkiller219> i have no sound on my 7.04
[04:08] <Pelo> !sound | cerealkiller219
[04:08] <ubotu> cerealkiller219: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[04:08] <caravel> Joshooa: don`t know, wait for kde on windows... that's a troll :)
[04:08] <wols> !nvidia | kadaz
[04:08] <ubotu> kadaz: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:09] <clearzen> kadaz: Have you ran sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx?
[04:09] <dfwlinuxguy> [rococo]  on my home system I have a swap and the rest is 1 big partition
[04:09] <Joshooa> caravel: Never heard of that, but I use Gnome anyway
[04:09] <greg_g> So, I know I am not the only person to have kde and gnome installed.  Does anyone know of a way to have KDE apps separated out of the main menu in gnome, and gnome apps separated out in the main menu in kde???
[04:09] <Oni-Dracula|lapp> anyone care to take a stab at what a "buffer i/o error" is?
[04:09] <dfwlinuxguy> greg_g...yes one second
[04:10] <wols> Oni-Dracula|lapp: full error and what lead to that error
[04:10] <rococo> dfwlinuxguy: I made /home separate to make reinstalling easier, or if I ever want to add another distro and don't want to file-juggle
[04:10] <caravel> Joshooa: "once upon a time in the West(ern Germany), there were a Trolltech announcement
[04:10] <mneptok> greg_g: use each DE's menu customization tools
[04:10] <dfwlinuxguy> greg_g...http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=31031
[04:10] <kadaz>  clearzen - no
[04:10] <kadaz> what does it do?
[04:10] <greg_g> dfwlinuxguy: *looks*
[04:10] <wols> greg_g: menu.
[04:10] <wols> !info menu
[04:11] <Oni-Dracula|lapp> wols, it's during installation... and the error is basically "buffer i/o error on hdc1 in block x"
[04:11] <mneptok> kadaz: what version of Ubuntu are you runnuing?
[04:11] <ubotu> menu: generates programs menu for all menu-aware applications. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.32 (feisty), package size 397 kB, installed size 1700 kB
[04:11] <clearzen> kadaz: That will install the binary driver for nvidia cards
[04:11] <wols> Oni-Dracula|lapp: ther is a syslog entry. what is it?
[04:11] <clearzen> kadaz: If you have all the proper repoes enabled
[04:11] <kadaz> repoes?
[04:11] <mneptok> kadaz: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[04:11] <dfwlinuxguy> [rococo]  good idea. I back my stuff up on an external drive and the only time I re-install is when I'm looking to get rid of all the extra cruft and I only copy over the relavant stuff
[04:11] <greg_g> dfwlinuxguy: that was it!  I saw that package before, but I couldn't remember where.  I had no idea how to find it again.  Keep trying google for "gnome kde menu separate" and similar, no luck
[04:11] <greg_g> thank you so much
[04:12] <kadaz> latest
[04:12] <dfwlinuxguy> greg_g no prob
[04:12] <clearzen> kadaz: repositories....it is different places where apt looks for software to install basically
[04:12] <mneptok> kadaz: System -> Adimin -> Restricted Drivers Manager
[04:12] <mneptok> *Admin
[04:13] <clearzen> kadaz: Or you can do that with feisty
[04:13] <mwe> Pelo did you make up your mind?
[04:13] <mneptok> kadaz: enable the restricted driver for the nVidia card
[04:13] <Pelo> mwe, my mind about what ?
[04:13] <mwe> Pelo nm
[04:13] <mistone> I have windows 98 if  I get wubi will it dual boot ?
[04:14] <mwe> Pelo I meant to ask someone else but he seems to have left ... nick confusion
[04:14] <Pelo> what the heck is wubi ?
[04:14] <wols> mistone: what is wubi?
[04:14] <Pelo> mwe, ah I see,  better luck next time
[04:14] <openmindDJ> Can anyone help getting my Back UPS 350 ES working in Feisty?  I can pastebin the error that I'm receiving. I have a feeling that i need to run a script file in order to resolve the problem : Pastebin = http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23536/
[04:14] <cables> Pelo, it lets you install Ubuntu from within Windows with an EXE
[04:14] <wols> mistone: simnply install debian and it will dual boot
[04:14] <cables> wols ^^
[04:14] <gpled> i put in a new vid card. now x window does not work. what command do i need to run to get things working?
[04:15] <wols> gpled: suod dpkg-reconfigure xservre-xorg
[04:15] <dfwlinuxguy> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:15] <kadaz> mneptok - I already done that. and when I did, it froze on startup.
[04:15] <wols> gpled: what video card is it?
[04:15] <greg_g> dfwlinuxguy: just installed, that did exactly what I was hoping it was going to do.  You saved me MUCH time manually editing the menus in both DE.
[04:15] <mneptok> wols: is there a reason you're recommending Debian in the Ubuntu channel? :)
[04:16] <wols> mneptok: typo. sorry
[04:16] <wols> mistone: install ubuntu and it will dualboot
[04:16] <dfwlinuxguy> greg_g ...yes it is very helpful...i found a way to omit the kde items from gnome if you are interested
[04:16] <wols> mneptok: time fo me to rest my eyes
[04:16] <kadaz> I have a gf5200 fx
[04:16] <dfwlinuxguy> greg_g ...it doesn't put them in a nice kde menu though
[04:16] <Pelo> mneptok, if another distro is better suited to someone's need there is no reason for us not to recommend it, we are all one big happy linux family, united against windows
[04:17] <[Thom] > wols: If I am using a software RAID do I still specify the swap partitions as 'swap'  or do I specify them as 'raid' ?
[04:17] <mneptok> kadaz: did you let the restricted manager download everything it needed?
[04:17] <greg_g> dfwlinuxguy: the package does not put the kde apps in separate menus in gnome?  (just making sure I understood you correctly)
[04:17] <dfwlinuxguy> greg_g ... this is a good article http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,132030-c,linux/article.html
[04:17] <mneptok> [Thom] : why not use LVM?
[04:18] <[Thom] > mneptok: Seemed a little complicated for what I want to do.
[04:18] <[Thom] > mneptok: Is that not the case?
[04:18] <mneptok> [Thom] : no more so than software RAID
[04:18] <kadaz> it downloaded the drivers and then asked to restart, I restarted, changed the default vid card setting in the bios and booted into ubuntu, but still froze. I then used the xserver reconfigeration and froze again
[04:18] <mneptok> [Thom] : just be sure to keep /boot out of LVM space
[04:18] <[Thom] > mneptok: I mean it's yet another layer of abstraction
[04:19] <mneptok> [Thom] : so is software RAID
[04:19] <[Thom] > mneptok: Don't you use software RAID on top of LVM?
[04:19] <dfwlinuxguy> greg_g ... having trouble locating that...it removes kde entries from gnome
[04:19] <mneptok> [Thom] : no
[04:19] <dfwlinuxguy> brb
[04:19] <[Thom] > mneptok: So how do you specify your partitions then?
[04:20] <[Thom] > mneptok: With software raid Ihave 2 drives that I am supposed to partition IDENTICAL to one another.
[04:20] <mneptok> [Thom] : you create a volume group, the carve up the space inside it.
[04:20] <mneptok> *then
[04:20] <[Thom] > mneptok: Do I get redundancy with LVM?
[04:20] <mneptok> [Thom] : oh, so you want mirroring, not spanning
[04:20] <[Thom] > Yeah
[04:21] <flake> through the terminal, can I pop-up a hidden Panel?  if so, how
[04:21] <host_> !wine
[04:21] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:21] <[Thom] > mneptok: So do you know if I should specify my swap partitions as swap or raid?
[04:21] <dfwlinuxguy> greg_g ... found it ....http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77729
[04:22] <mneptok> [Thom] : /boot and /swap should not be part of a software RAID array
[04:22] <dfwlinuxguy> [thom]  make swap a part of raid
[04:22] <greg_g> dfwlinuxguy: *looks*
[04:22] <kadaz> mneptok: I installed ubuntu using the internal vga. worked great, then I enabled the drivers for nvidia, then ubuntu downloaded drivers and ask for a restart. I restarted, changed default vid in bios, then booted up and froze. So I booted back up using the internal vga and got an error message saying the Xserver has been disabled. I tried " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg " and set it to nvidia. I rebooted, set bios nvidia card, then b
[04:22] <[Thom] > mneptok: Why not /boot?
[04:22] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...that's not what i've read
[04:23] <mneptok> [Thom] : what happens when the kernel wants to boot *before* the RAID kernel modules load? ;)
[04:24] <Xorlev> mnptok: Initrd, compile in.
[04:24] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...I've configured multiple machines and put swap and / (no separate /boot) in raid 1 and it does not cause a problem
[04:24] <mneptok> Xorlev: that's not something i want to do with every kernel update
[04:24] <greg_g> dfwlinuxguy: thanks a lot man, you are the helper of the day for me ;)
[04:24] <Xorlev> I build my own, so having /boot as a Software RAID 1 array works fine.
[04:25] <dfwlinuxguy> greg_g...glad I could help =0)
[04:25] <mneptok> !works for me > dfwlinuxguy
[04:25] <Tru7h> I have another problem
[04:26] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...if you know something I don't I'd love to hear it
[04:26] <Vash> hnn... Ive got an odd problem I cant seem to figure out. Ive got an IDE card with 4 drives plugged into it and a sata drive plugged straight to mobo. I tried installing Ubuntu Ult. Gamers Ed. onto sata, but I always get error 17 cant mount selected partition (I think) when I trie to boot after install. Anyone know how to fix? o_O
[04:26] <Tru7h> When I run the installer from my Fiesty LiveCD, once I get to the keyboard layout window and hit next it gives me an error saying "ConsoleSetup failed with exit code 139. Further information may be found in /var/log/syslog. Do you want to try running this step again before continuing? If you do not, your installation may fail entirely or may be broken."
[04:26] <mneptok> dfwlinuxguy: /whois mneptok :)
[04:27] <mneptok> dfwlinuxguy: /boot in LVM or RAID space can be really dangerous. kernel updates can lead to the machine being unable to read /boot because it looks for /boot before LVM stuff has loaded
[04:28] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...I'm not saying that I do it so it's ok...I'm saying that I have specifically read that you should put /swap in raid 1..I don't make a separate /boot so I can't speak to that
[04:28] <host_> !ntfs
[04:28] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions . For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[04:28] <cwraig> hi all i am having trouble with distcc? * /etc/init.d/distcc: start failed with error code 1
[04:28] <cwraig>  anyone know what this means?
[04:28] <host_> !ntfs-3g
[04:28] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a Linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. Installation instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions
[04:28] <mneptok> dfwlinuxguy: why do you need to mirror swap space? i don't see the practical application.
[04:28] <host_> !fuse
[04:28] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing using fuse here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[04:28] <dave132> how do i close a existing process in ubuntu?
[04:29] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...let me see if I can find that article..one sec
[04:29] <melchior7> Dave123, kill?
[04:30] <kadaz> clearzen, Iam going to try that
[04:30] <cwraig> where is the log file that will help me diagnose init.d start command faults
[04:30] <kadaz> in the recovery option
[04:30] <xkcd> Is IRC supposed to be cool?
[04:30] <dave132> melchior, firefox wont open because it says firefox is still running and i have to close it in order to be able to restart firefox
[04:30] <Vanax> So i got wow to open through wine, but when it comes up its lagggggggy and then freezes, anyone know how to fix it?
[04:30] <lockd> is there any way to add "kill this window" to the context menu in gnome window manager?
[04:30] <loco_aullador> hi i have an amd64 on ubuntu feisty and i'd like to know if i can install i386 pakages on my machine....i get an error when i try to install them....maybe theres a specific way to install them
[04:31] <melchior7> Dave123, run the command "killall firefox-bin"
[04:31] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/23538/
[04:31] <majd> hey, i'm trying to install ubuntu, i get an error when it installs linux-generic..then it asks me to install that or the linux-image-generic? what should i do?
[04:31] <dave132> melchior, in the terminal?
[04:31] <melchior7> dave132 in the terminal, yes
[04:31] <Colossus> I'm having a serious problem with an Ubuntu install: every few minutes, it freezes up for a few seconds. The terminal says "cpufreq: change failed with new_state 1 and result 0" ...
[04:31] <majd> it's asking which kernel to install
[04:32] <dave132> ok thanks
[04:32] <Vash> Ner.
[04:32] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...http://users.piuha.net/martti/comp/ubuntu/raid.html
[04:32] <Tru7h> When I run the installer from my Fiesty LiveCD, once I get to the keyboard layout window and hit next it gives me an error saying "ConsoleSetup failed with exit code 139. Further information may be found in /var/log/syslog. Do you want to try running this step again before continuing? If you do not, your installation may fail entirely or may be broken."
[04:32] <Tru7h> How do I fix that?
[04:32] <mneptok> dfwlinuxguy: if a drive *without* swap dies it can take the system down. their argument is circular.
[04:32] <melchior7> Dave123, or, go to System->Administration->System Monitor->Process and find firefox-bin and kill it
[04:32] <jshriver> hi
[04:32] <Tru7h> And if everyone was talking to me I already installed NTFS-3g
[04:33] <jshriver> How do you setup ssh keys so you can put the pub key on another box for remote access?
[04:33] <Vash> Im trying to install Ubuntu, and it installs fine, apparently, but every time I boot, I get Error 17 Cannot Mount selected partition. Any ideas on how to fix?
[04:33] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...I really want to know. Everything I've read puts swap into the raid array
[04:33] <Rodel> how do i install devpackages
[04:34] <dfwlinuxguy> jshriver  ssh-keygen -t rsa
[04:34] <jshriver> apt-get install package-dev
[04:34] <[Thom] > dfwlinuxguy: I'm getting "No root files system is defined"  ?
[04:34] <host_> dang, making ntfs writable with Fiesty is so much easier than before
[04:34] <mneptok> dfwlinuxguy: their argument is that if sawp is outside RAID, and the physical device dies, it can take the system down. with software RAID, if a drive dies, it may *still* take the system down whether swap is on it or not.
[04:34] <majd> when installing ubuntu, it's asking which kernel to install. Choosing linux-generic doesnt work, can i choose linux-image-generic?
[04:34] <dfwlinuxguy> [Thom}...sorry..where are we at?
[04:35] <jshriver> dfwlinuxguy, thanks
[04:35] <dave132> melchior7, thanks hat worked:)
[04:35] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...but if there is info in swap that hasn't been written to disk you will lose it right?
[04:35] <melchior7> dave132, np
[04:35] <Tru7h> When I run the installer from my Fiesty LiveCD, once I get to the keyboard layout window and hit next it gives me an error saying "ConsoleSetup failed with exit code 139. Further information may be found in /var/log/syslog. Do you want to try running this step again before continuing? If you do not, your installation may fail entirely or may be broken."
[04:35] <Tru7h> And if everyone was talking to me I already installed NTFS-3g
[04:36] <mneptok> dfwlinuxguy: that's no different than having swap in the RAID array and losing software RAID
[04:36] <flake> is it safe or possible to write to ntfs disks now?
[04:36] <mneptok> dfwlinuxguy: *hardware* RAID is another story
[04:36] <majd> when installing ubuntu, it's asking which kernel to install. Choosing linux-generic doesnt work
[04:37] <Harley_Dog> anyone setup netatalk on dapper  - any step by step configs??
[04:37] <mneptok> !info netatalk
[04:37] <ubotu> netatalk: AppleTalk user binaries. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.3-5 (feisty), package size 693 kB, installed size 1932 kB
[04:37] <melchior7> flake: not really
[04:38] <Vash> Im trying to install Ubuntu, and it installs fine, apparently, but every time I boot, I get Error 17 Cannot Mount selected partition. Any ideas on how to fix?
[04:38] <melchior7> flake, do you want a windows and  a linux install to share a disk?
[04:38] <jamster545> can anyone help me get Ubuntu to show up in Solaris GRUB/
[04:38] <majd> when installing ubuntu, it's asking which kernel to install. Choosing linux-generic doesnt work
[04:38] <majd> i'm doing this on fiesty
[04:39] <flake> linux install, to use an old harddrive as a fileserver
[04:39] <melchior7> why's the disk have to be NTFS?
[04:39] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...sorry to be so dense..I've had a drive fail and the system has kept on rockin until I was able to replace the failed drive...if the drive fails (probably not common) while there is info in swap and the drive is not raid, I would think you would lose that info
[04:39] <pc_> Request help, I install ubuntu and now when I start x it say something about couldn't initiate font path /etc/X11/something should be 1 is 2 fixing can someone help?
[04:39] <flake> I have stuff on there I haven't backed up, don't know if I'll ever use it again.. too lazy to reformat  :/
[04:40] <flake> course lazy can be spensive
[04:40] <melchior7> flake, yea; reading works fine, writing is unsafe especially for unbacked-up data
[04:40] <[Thom] > dfwlinuxguy: So what's the verdict on having /boot inside raid?
[04:40] <flake> ok, ty
[04:40] <Lightrunner> hello
[04:40] <sivik> !avi
[04:40] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:40] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...if there is a technical reason not to do it I want to know so I can stop doing it that way
[04:40] <pc_> !ubuntu
[04:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[04:40] <pc_> !ubuntu-server
[04:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ - The #ubuntu-server channel provides specific support
[04:41] <sivik> is ati a restrictedformat?
[04:41] <Lightrunner> can someone tell me how I can upgrade from Firefox <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS> using "apt-get" ?
[04:41] <sivik> apt-get upgrade
[04:41] <Lightrunner> I tried that
[04:41] <melchior7> use synaptic
[04:41] <sivik> Lightrunner, it might not be avalible in the repos yet
[04:41] <kbrosnan> Lightrunner: wait for ubuntu to release a <IP_ADDRESS> there is a bit of lag between
[04:41] <dfwlinuxguy> [Thom}...are you installing a new machine or installing from scratch?....I never create a separate /boot and I always put my / in raid
[04:42] <majd> what happens if i install linux w/o linux-generic?
[04:42] <MISTERTibbs> lightrunner -- use the firefox "check for upgrades command"  for best results
[04:42] <kbrosnan> Lightrunner: ubuntu and mozilla releases
[04:42] <[Thom] > dfwlinuxguy: This is an old windows box I'm repurposing as a linux server
[04:42] <Lightrunner> okay, thanks for the infor
[04:42] <dfwlinuxguy> [Thom}...mneptok sounds like he may have info I don't have
[04:43] <dfwlinuxguy> [Thom]  he says just because I can doesn't mean I should, but I really want to know why I shouldn't
[04:43] <lockd> Lightrunner: if you want very efficient firefox performance you can always go for 3.x alphas
[04:43] <[Thom] > dfwlinuxguy: if you keep /boot outside of raid, and you lose that drive, then your system will not boot, right?
[04:43] <[Thom] > dfwlinuxguy: Isn't that the point of redundancy?
[04:43] <flake> usually jamster545, if people don't know the answer or have little experience, they are less likely to answer to help cut down on the 'spam'. plus yelling can get you ignored too.
[04:44] <kbrosnan> MISTERTibbs: ubuntu disables the Firefox check for updates on thier builds
[04:44] <jamster545> no they dont even acknowledge it unless i yell... then i get an answer that usually helps
[04:44] <matthew1429> how do i know if i have smbfs installed/
[04:44] <dfwlinuxguy> [Thom]  if /boot is not raided, it will not be available on the non-failed drive and it will not boot without intervention
[04:45] <MISTERTibbs> kbrosnan_ shame on me!  I didn't know.  Sadly, I also don't know the work around.  wouldn't synaptic upgrade firefox for u??
[04:45] <lockd> kbrosnan: oh, you can't even do that?
[04:45] <Lightrunner> i tried synaptic
[04:45] <Tac_Work> hey guys... im on a ubuntu 5 live cd .... and trying to format my HD
[04:45] <Lightrunner> just installed <IP_ADDRESS> again
[04:45] <[Thom] > dfwlinuxguy: Should I use standard, news, largefile or largefile64 on my partition with all the movies?
[04:45] <Tac_Work> does anyone have a link to a way to do it? ... i cannot seem to make it find the device
[04:45] <lockd> Lightrunner: MISTERTibbs: the only workaround is installing from sources or binary packages
[04:46] <jamster545> now will someone PLEASE give me an answer to my question... it is annoying to be ignored... it happens EVERY time i get on unless i yell... it is the worst on these OS support forums
[04:46] <kbrosnan> MISTERTibbs: as soon as Ubuntu releases a Firefox <IP_ADDRESS> package the updater will offer it to you
[04:46] <kbrosnan> but that has not happened yet
[04:46] <Lightrunner> how long till ubuntu releases <IP_ADDRESS>?
[04:47] <lockd> what feature are you missing from .3?
[04:47] <tzadik> hi
[04:47] <tzadik> i'm having a hard time getting video to work in firefox
[04:47] <tzadik> i get sound only
[04:47] <tzadik> it's feisty
[04:47] <Vash> Im trying to install Ubuntu, and it installs fine, apparently, but every time I boot, I get Error 17 Cannot Mount selected partition. Any ideas on how to fix?
[04:47] <tzadik> i installed the fluendo codecs
[04:47] <sivik> i'm having issues with playing avi in ubuntu, what am i doing wrong, i have install the aviplay and it says it still down't work
[04:47] <tzadik> Vash: did you install it on a slave disk?
[04:48] <MISTERTibbs> vash: shared install w/windows??
[04:48] <Lightrunner> I'm not missing a feature. I was just trying to use the current version, but I didn't know that Ubuntu hadn't released it yet. I thought maybe system wasn't looking in all possible repositories.
[04:48] <tzadik> Vash: you should be sure to install it on the master disk
[04:48] <Vash> no. Sata is Master with no windows.
[04:48] <lockd> Lightrunner: if you want latest, apt-get install firefox-trunk firefox-trunk-gnome-support
[04:48] <EliasAmaral> can I use sound recorder to record a sound that is playing right now? (instead of a sound from an input device like a microphone)
[04:48] <dfwlinuxguy> [Thom]  wow...I know standard, news is for a lot of little small files...I haven't heard of the other 2...that's a new one for me to look into. with large files you shouldn't need to worry about running out of inodes and you should be able to set it something larger than the standard 4096
[04:48] <EliasAmaral> I am looking for a software that does this
[04:48] <lockd> Lightrunner: but it's bleeding edge, and it installs over firefox 2.x i think
[04:49] <Lightrunner> ok I'll try that, lock
[04:49] <mneptok> Lightrunner: bad idea
[04:49] <lockd> Lightrunner: oh wait, it's another repository
[04:49] <Vash> is why it confuses me... i had standard ubuntu installed ages ago, but went back to windows. just got Ultimate Gamers Edition today and it doesnt want to install for some reason.
[04:49] <MISTERTibbs> good luck light
[04:49] <kbrosnan> Lightrunner: you probably don't want to do that the trunk is still alpha code
[04:49] <jamster545> OK... I AM ASKING MY QUESTION AND I REAAALY HOPE TO GET AN ANSWER... flake or someone please just give me an answer so i can move on... how do i get Kubuntu/Ubuntu to appear in the Solaris GRUB? dont tell me to go to #solaris because they wont help me and are mean
[04:49] <mneptok> Lightrunner: fx-trunk is not for users that want a browser that works
[04:49] <Vash> is it somehow a boot problem?
[04:49] <tzadik> what could it be if i have sound but no video when playing videos in firefox
[04:49] <lockd> kbrosnan: Lightrunner: i forgot it installs over /usr instead of /usr/local
[04:49] <Lightrunner> ok
[04:50] <lockd> I run trunk build and it seems to work fine
[04:50] <Lightrunner> I'll omit that one
[04:50] <tzadik> i can't even find a place in firefox to see what plugins I have
[04:50] <flake> jamster545  there is a #grub irc as well
[04:50] <jamster545> there is?
[04:50] <jamster545> can anyone here help tho?
[04:50] <flake> 29 people in it
[04:50] <mneptok> lockd: that's good for you. it's no guarantee that it will work for others. ;)
[04:50] <flake> don't know
[04:50] <flake> did you try to install linux
[04:50] <jamster545> flake, is your nick registered?
[04:50] <MISTERTibbs> vash: sounds like MBR problem.  I've had it.  here's how I fixed:
[04:50] <jamster545> it is installed
[04:50] <flake> no, i need to register it
[04:50] <kbrosnan> lockd: so do I but recommending it to random people is not a good practice because they are likely to get burnt
[04:51] <flake> is it solaris grub or just grub
[04:51] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...I hope i haven't sounded dismissive, if you know something I don't I'd love to hear what you know
[04:51] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, calm down, you can't just demant an answer. (for your problem: probably it's just a matter of changing a config file, probably in /boot. in ubuntu, this config file is named /boot/grub/menu.lst. check solaris documentation)
[04:51] <jamster545> solaris grub... i know you need to install solaris after linux
[04:51] <Soth> Quick question.  I see that (apparently) .deb files apt downloads are in /var/cache/apt/archives.  Is it safe to manually delete these to free up space or is there some other preferred method for cleaning those archives up?
[04:51] <MISTERTibbs> Clean Install windows WITH  A PARTITION FOR THE BOOT RECORD!  Small partition: about 15 MB.
[04:51] <MISTERTibbs> Install windows on next partiion and ubuntu on 3rd partition.
[04:51] <mneptok> dfwlinuxguy: i just see no reason for the RAID overhead to preserve what is by definition transitory data
[04:51] <pmayer> can anybody remind me how to reformat my hard drive to NTFS? I can't remember.
[04:51] <dfwlinuxguy> apt-get autoremove
[04:51] <Soth> thanks
[04:51] <dfwlinuxguy> apt-get autoclean
[04:51] <MISTERTibbs> no problems since
[04:51] <rococo> Soth: sudo apt-get clean and/or sudo apt-get autoclean
[04:52] <jamster545> flake it is solaris grub
[04:52] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, one quick solution is, instead, adding solaris to ubuntu's grub. and then, install it with sudo grub-install /dev/your_hd_here
[04:52] <lockd> kbrosnan: installing from cvs is fine - it defaults to a local install
[04:52] <lockd> kbrosnan: i shouldn't have recommended the package though
[04:52] <Vanax> Can anybody help me with running wow?
[04:52] <Vash> Mistertibbs: Danke. I shall try your suggestion.
[04:52] <dfwlinuxguy> [mneptok] ...thanks
[04:52] <jamster545> how do i add solaris to Ubuntu GRUB?
[04:53] <jamster545> EliasAmaral how do i put solaris into Ubuntu GRUB?
[04:53] <lockd> Vanax: you will very likely have to run it in an emulator
[04:53] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, edit /etc/grub/menu.lst as root
[04:53] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, like, sudo gedit /etc/grub/menu.lst
[04:53] <jamster545> in Terminal? ok
[04:53] <EliasAmaral> oops, not /etc, /boot instead
[04:53] <Vanax> lockd: i've got the wine thing downloaded and everything and when wow opens, it shows the loggin all crappy, then just freezes
[04:53] <kbrosnan> lockd: i am not so worried about the install point as his profile, as the current trunk can over write bookmarks if you mix it with Firefox 2
[04:54] <Tru7h> Okay this is really stupid
[04:54] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, you need to put lines like the ones already existent for other ubuntu entires. but these after the ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST comment
[04:54] <annihilus> does anyone know of a media player that is able to possibly fix buttons (play, next, last, etc) to a panel?
[04:54] <Tru7h> but how do I navigate to a folder on the terminal?
[04:54] <flake> Tru7h  cd \
[04:54] <Tru7h> ooo
[04:54] <Tru7h> I was tyring to use /
[04:54] <Tru7h> xD
[04:54] <lockd> Vanax: well, Wine Is Not an Emulator - it may be possible to get it to work, but I have not been able to
[04:54] <Pelo> jamster545, bookmark this , you'll need it http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[04:55] <matthew1429> has anyone successfully gotten samba to work with vista?
[04:55] <rococo> Tru7h: cd /complete/path/to/folder for full path, or cd folder if you're gong from a current folder to a sub-folder (you can see current folder with the "pwd" command)
[04:55] <flake> you can also type out the first three or four letters in a terminal and hit the TAB key - it is like autocomplete
[04:55] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, there is some comments there to explain, but you need a line with title Solaris, another line with root (hdN,M) with the partition (in grub naming scheme) and some line to kernel (and maybe initrd too), and finally boot
[04:55] <Vanax> lockd: what would u reccommend me getting to run it?
[04:55] <andre_pl> Vanax, a friend of mine runs it under wine wiht no problems
[04:55] <matthew1429> i.e. getting vista to connect to a samba share?
[04:55] <flake> I see that windozes does that too in terminal
[04:55] <andre_pl> I think he installs it in windows first and just runs it from the windows partition using wine
[04:55] <Vanax> thats what i have
[04:55] <andre_pl> WoW's installation is pretty self-contained.
[04:55] <jamster545> EliasAmaral when i did the gedit command it said command not found
[04:56] <Vanax> i have it installed on the slave when i was running windows
[04:56] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, maybe kate, then?
[04:56] <EliasAmaral> gedit is for ubuntu. one equivalent in kubuntu is kate
[04:56] <andre_pl> Vanax, do you have wine?
[04:56] <Vanax> Yesm.
[04:56] <rococo> jamster545: the (hdN,M) in what EliasAmaral, you need to replace N with the hard drive number, and M with the partition number of your Solaris install. If you only have one HD, N is 0, and N is also 0 if Solaris is the master drive
[04:56] <jamster545> i am in Konsole (terminal) Kate is the Text Editor
[04:56] <andre_pl> Doesn't work?
[04:56] <Vanax> Nope
[04:57] <lockd> Vanax: emulating with qemu, but you will probably need a commercial emulator like vmware
[04:57] <alakalaka99> hello
[04:57] <adelie> how do you move a window to a different workspace in beryl?
[04:57] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, so you need to open other kate instance, because you need to edit the config file as root
[04:57] <andre_pl> I've seen it run under a default wine config
[04:57] <lockd> Vanax: along with an entire windows installation
[04:57] <alakalaka99> drag the window adelie
[04:57] <Tru7h> I'm getting an error when I try and use Wine
[04:57] <jamster545> what and how would i use kate for like that??? kate is just like notepad on windows...
[04:58] <Tru7h> I'm trying to run Xfire.exe to install it
[04:58] <Tru7h> and I get this error
[04:58] <matthew1429> is anyone familiar with gsambad?
[04:58] <Tru7h> ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop/Xfireexe$ wine Xfire.exe
[04:58] <Tru7h> wine: creating configuration directory '/home/ubuntu/.wine'...
[04:58] <Tru7h> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[04:58] <Tru7h> wine: wineprefixcreate failed while creating '/home/ubuntu/.wine'.
[04:58] <matthew1429> I'm trying to get vista to work with ubuntu
[04:58] <flake> kate is better than notepad, it kicks its butt
[04:58] <andre_pl> Vanax, did you look here: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5606
[04:58] <lockd> andre_pl: regardless, I've never been able to get WoW to run under wine, even when many other games do
[04:58] <dr_willis> flake,  a sharp stick in the eye is better then notepad :)
[04:58] <jamster545> flake, how would i use kate to edit the file though?
[04:58] <lockd> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[04:59] <flake> sudo kate from a terminal
[04:59] <rococo> I know people who have gotten WoW working under wine, but apparently most people have better like with Cedega (even the free version)
[04:59] <jamster545> oh
[04:59] <lockd> is there any way to stop that?
[04:59] <dr_willis> lockd,  Try the 'apt-get -f install'
[04:59] <rococo> lockd: yeah, try "sudo apt-get -f install" ;-)
[04:59] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, you need to open the file with the editor running inside sudo, heh
[05:00] <dr_willis> with a sudo of course..
[05:00] <adelie> ha ha ha, thank you. I knew it had to be easy
[05:00] <Pelo> Tru7h, first you need to provide wine with the path to xfire   so    the command should be  wine /path/xfire.exe , second the rest seems to be a wine error,   reinstal wine , then run winecfg to make sure wine creates its own file structures. then try again from the command line to check that xfie will run
[05:00] <jamster545> ummm... i dont think it worked
[05:00] <majyk> are the Ubuntu devs aware that the shade mode for windows doesn't work correctly with desktop effects enabled?
[05:00] <HardDisk> good morning everyone, I'm just going to have a quick breakfast and be with you shortly.
[05:00] <lockd> rococo: tried this
[05:00] <rococo> lockd: and?
[05:00] <Tru7h> Pelo: It's in the correct directory. I cd'd to it
[05:00] <lockd> rococo: still gives said error message
[05:01] <zman__> hi there
[05:01] <jamster545> kate keeps crashing itself
[05:01] <lockd> rococo: and? nothing more.. is there some other command I can use to clear that cache?
[05:01] <rococo> lockd: try an autoclean
[05:01] <dr_willis> !aptfix
[05:01] <ubotu> If Adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole:  sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:01] <Tru7h> Pelo: Or do I need to give it the full path anyway even though I'm in the same directory?
[05:01] <rococo> lockd: and THEN apt-get install -f
[05:01] <moonbaby> hello, I am trying to quickly backup a home directory to DVD-R, but am running into problems with file permissions (no write access) can I run gnome-baker as root (is this a good idea?  will it solve the problem?) if no, is there a fast way to to change permissions for an entire bracnch of directory tree?
[05:01] <GMWeezel> Is using screen the only way to detach a program from a terminal session?
[05:02] <lockd> rococo: i had to remove the package, didn't know there was autoclean
[05:02] <dr_willis> GMWeezel,  depends on exactly what you are wanting to do.
[05:02] <lockd> rococo: thanks, for future reference
[05:02] <dr_willis> GMWeezel,  screen is very handy., theres the 'nohup' method as well.
[05:02] <Pelo> Tru7h, the full path can'T hurt,  but like i said the rest sounds like a wine issue,  try reinstlling it and if that doesn't work ask in #winehq,  also check the application database in the www.winehq.org website to see if anywone had issues running that prog
[05:02] <Vanax> andre_pl: idk what i'm supposed to be looking at, it tells me it should work, yet it doesnt
[05:02] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, @.@
[05:02] <rococo> lockd: sure. there's also autoremove to take care of dependencies for packages that are no longer around
[05:03] <Tru7h> Okay, thanks
[05:03] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, so sudo kate /boot/grub/menu.lst don't work? try pico, or vim, or emacs
[05:03] <jamster545> i dont have any of those
[05:03] <jamster545> it just wont work
[05:03] <EliasAmaral> pico you have :)
[05:03] <jamster545> how get do i?
[05:03] <EliasAmaral> sudo pico /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:03] <peepsalot> jamster545, try nano
[05:03] <EliasAmaral> well, i meant nano
[05:04] <jamster545> sudo pico /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:04] <jamster545> oops
[05:04] <rococo> actually, it's the same thing. if you run pico as a command in Ubuntu, it runs nano
[05:04] <jamster545> i got my computers confused
[05:04] <jamster545> i am running two different comps at once
[05:05] <rococo> "pico" is a symlink to nano
[05:05] <jamster545> ooh! I think it worked
[05:05] <Pelo> sigh...
[05:06] <Vanax> So,
[05:06] <rococo> well, my eyes are no broken
[05:06] <Vanax> Anyone for helping a semi-linux noob with getting wow to work?
[05:06] <Vanax> lol
[05:07] <Vanax> wtb ppl not spamming
[05:07] <Pelo> Vanax,  you might have better luck asking in #winehq
[05:07] <Vanax> thank u
[05:07] <KidMan> What is the Linux equivalent for Nero?
[05:07] <Pelo> Vanax, not spam ,  network splits,  there is some maintenance being done one hte servers
[05:07] <jamster545> okay sorry i got disconnected
[05:07] <drarem> Vanax - or search in the ubuntu forums
[05:07] <drarem> I get better hits in there
[05:07] <Pelo> KidMan, gnomebaker k3b
[05:07] <dr_willis> KidMan,  i perfer k3b
[05:08] <jamster545> it opened pico and shows the file name but there is nothing there to edit
[05:08] <harry_> ssh uses port 22, right?
[05:08] <KidMan> Thank you Pelo and dr_willis.
[05:08] <melchior7> harry_, yea
[05:08] <melchior7> by default
[05:08] <Tom47> kidman are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[05:08] <rococo> Vanax: I haven't done it myself, but I just asked someone I know who did what guides he used. I shall link thee! http://www.pronetit.com/2007/04/20/howto-install-world-of-warcraft-in-ubuntu-fiesty-fawn/
[05:09] <harry_> melchior7: does anything else (common) use it?
[05:09] <rococo> harry_: nope
[05:09] <melchior7> harry_, nope, at least not in the Unix/linux world
[05:09] <Tru7h> When I run the installer from my Fiesty LiveCD, once I get to the keyboard layout window and hit next it gives me an error saying "ConsoleSetup failed with exit code 139. Further information may be found in /var/log/syslog. Do you want to try running this step again before continuing? If you do not, your installation may fail entirely or may be broken."
[05:09] <Tru7h> How do I fix that?
[05:09] <KidMan> Tom47, Ubuntu.
[05:09] <Vanax> Is there a way to not have to install it again?, i have it installed to my slave drive from when i was running windows.
[05:10] <Tom47> kidman in that case most of your burning can be undertaken by nautilus
[05:10] <jamster545> there are no words to edit in the menu.lst file
[05:10] <rococo> Vanax: hm.... usually when a windows program is already on a windows partition, that makes running it with wine much easier
[05:10] <dr_willis> jamster545,  i would bet on a Typo on your part then on the command line.
[05:11] <rococo> Vanax: first thing's first, do you have wine installed?
[05:11] <Vanax> Yep
[05:11] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, you need to add lines. i described briefly the lines in an early message
[05:11] <jamster545> no i tried it twice dr_willis
[05:11] <str4> sup
[05:11] <harry_> melchior7: do you know if Windows uses it for anything? i.e. if I portmap port 22 from the router to my computer, will my parent's windows box be affected?
[05:11] <rococo> Vanax: I'd run winecfg and make sure it knows to act like XP
[05:11] <jamster545> how do i do it then??? EliasAmaral?
[05:11] <melchior7> harry_, windows by default doesn't
[05:11] <str4> don't know
[05:11] <Vanax> ><
[05:11] <dr_willis> jamster545,   try  cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
[05:11] <Vanax> it was on windows 2k
[05:12] <harry_> melchior7: thanks.
[05:12] <rococo> Vanax: once that's done, you MIGHT be lucky enough to just run "wine /path/to/wow.exe"
[05:12] <rococo> Vanax: then 2k - that is also an option
[05:12] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, well, if you have your file opened, it's just a matter of put them in the end of file
[05:12] <rococo> Vanax: might help to make sure your windows partition isn't set to read-only first, though
[05:12] <EliasAmaral> jamster545, a line beginning with the title word, a line beginning with root word, etc
[05:12] <Tru7h> When I run the installer from my Fiesty LiveCD, once I get to the keyboard layout window and hit next it gives me an error saying "ConsoleSetup failed with exit code 139. Further information may be found in /var/log/syslog. Do you want to try running this step again before continuing? If you do not, your installation may fail entirely or may be broken."
[05:12] <Tru7h> How do I fix that?
[05:12] <jamster545> wtf?
[05:12] <Pelo> jamster545, bookmark this , you'll need it http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[05:12] <jamster545> i dont know THAT much about computers
[05:12] <Vanax> how do i make sure its not read only?
[05:12] <jamster545> i am there Pelo
[05:13] <excalibas> hello, can someone help me to transfer some files from xubuntu to xp from network, i have been trying from tutorials but i am a bit confused
[05:13] <jamster545> open in terminal with sudo or udesu
[05:13] <nitro4ce> is the blue one a gnome theme? http://glade.gnome.org/graphics/devhelp.png
[05:13] <Pelo> jamster545, if you donT' know that much about computers can you tell me what you are doing installing solaris ?
[05:13] <jamster545> to develop java
[05:13] <dr_willis> excalibas,  easy way is use ssh and the winscp client.
[05:13] <jamster545> i know alot about computers... just not boot crap
[05:14] <PanzerMKZ> boot crap
[05:14] <PanzerMKZ> ?
[05:14] <dfwlinuxguy> excalibas I'm willing to help..
[05:14] <jamster545> the stuff in the booting sequence
[05:14] <dr_willis> Thats the new Apple Booting tool isent it that lets yoyu boot windows. :)
[05:14] <jamster545> idk much about that stuff or any of the commands
[05:14] <excalibas> dr_willis: these are stuff i download with synaptic?
[05:14] <dr_willis> excalibas,  i think ya shoudl  ask about what exactly you are trying to do then....
[05:14] <PanzerMKZ> boot camp
[05:15] <PanzerMKZ> not boot crap
[05:15] <jamster545> BRB i am gonna look at that page from Pelo
[05:15] <dr_willis> PanzerMKZ,  :) apple is all crap to me. :P
[05:15] <dfwlinuxguy> apple is ok..it's better than windows
[05:15] <excalibas> ok, so i have 2 network cards in this computer (xubuntu) eth0 and eth2
[05:15] <PanzerMKZ> watch it
[05:15] <drarem> dont step in it and you won't have boot crap
[05:15] <PanzerMKZ> leave the OS bashing at the door
[05:15] <excalibas> eth2 is connecting to the internet
[05:15] <dr_willis> PanzerMKZ,  im more of a 'apple the company' basher.
[05:16] <Tru7h> When I run the installer from my Fiesty LiveCD, once I get to the keyboard layout window and hit next it gives me an error saying "ConsoleSetup failed with exit code 139. Further information may be found in /var/log/syslog. Do you want to try running this step again before continuing? If you do not, your installation may fail entirely or may be broken."
[05:16] <Tru7h> How do I fix that?
[05:16] <Tom47> boot glue, though sticky like fresh crap, its imporant early on with puters to know the difference betweeen them
[05:16] <scarter> is there a way to take a pressed cd of ubuntu and update it with all the new packages in order to create a up-to-date (at the time of creation) install cd?
[05:16] <excalibas> i want to use eth0 to connecto to my xp laptop so i can move some files (from xubunto to xp)
[05:17] <dfwlinuxguy> scarter... you might find this interesting http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=406081
[05:17] <PanzerMKZ> why not just use scp for the file transfer
[05:17] <excalibas> sould i have a static or dynamic ipo?
[05:17] <KidMan> How do you kill an "Uninterruptable" process
[05:17] <excalibas> ip
[05:17] <scarter> dfwlinuxguy:  thank you, checking now...
[05:17] <PanzerMKZ> the ip should not matter
[05:17] <crdlb> KidMan, you can't
[05:17] <dfwlinuxguy> panzermkz...because windows doesn't have have ssh server by default
[05:18] <buenas_werte> off couse using the wrong ip would matter
[05:18] <PanzerMKZ> you don't need scp server
[05:18] <PanzerMKZ> on the doze box
[05:18] <PanzerMKZ> for me I use pscp
[05:18] <excalibas>  is . ok?
[05:18] <PanzerMKZ> at the command line on the doze box
[05:18] <dfwlinuxguy> panzermkz..there is no "scp" server...scp is part of the openssh-server
[05:19] <dr_willis> winscp on the windows box.. can transfer to a linux box rather easially.
[05:19] <PanzerMKZ> I understand that
[05:19] <dr_willis> using the ssh server on the linux box.
[05:19] <dfwlinuxguy> that's like me saying you should use rsync
[05:19] <excalibas> is <IP_ADDRESS> ok?
[05:19] <PanzerMKZ> exactly
[05:19] <PanzerMKZ> dude start over
[05:19] <PanzerMKZ> and reread what I was saying
[05:19] <PanzerMKZ> you have ssh installed on the linux box
[05:19] <PanzerMKZ> you would use scp to transfer files
[05:19] <Tom47> scarter you might find all the necessary clues here although its a couple of releases back now ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e06
[05:19] <buenas_werte> excalibaz its okay, having both in same subnet will make it easier
[05:20] <excalibas> ok, i wil install ssh
[05:20] <Tru7h> When I try to install Fiesty from the Live CD it gives me an error when I get to the keyboard layout part. The error is "ConsoleSetup failed with exit code 139. Further information may be found in /var/log/syslog. Do you want to try running this step again before continuing? If you do not, your installation may fail entirely or may be broken."
[05:20] <idefixx> dr_willis: use sshfs
[05:20] <Tru7h> What should I do?
[05:20] <dfwlinuxguy> panzermkz..you could use the putty tools to transfer the files from the linux box to windows...is that it?
[05:20] <PanzerMKZ> yea
[05:20] <PanzerMKZ> you could
[05:20] <scarter> Tom47: thank you, i'll check there too...
[05:20] <PanzerMKZ> to and from
[05:20] <kronus_> how do I roll a .deb when compiling something?
[05:20] <dr_willis> idefixx,  or any of a dozen other things. :)
[05:21] <dfwlinuxguy> panzermkz..sure
[05:21] <dfwlinuxguy> panzermkz..not a bad idea
[05:21] <pc_> request help when I type startx. it gives me something about couldn't initiate FreeFontPath, and shuts down X
[05:21] <Tom47> scarter from that last url this looks interesting ... http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[05:21] <EADG_> Tru7h: continue, what can it hurt?
[05:21] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ did you upgrade from edgy to feisty?
[05:21] <PanzerMKZ> what I have done on a windows box is put the pscp from the putty tools in the windows dir
[05:21] <mmm7> Hi...I can't seem to pipe the output of gnuplot to /dev/null with gnuplot somefile.gnu &> /dev/null, shouldn't this work?
[05:21] <idefixx> dr_willis: yep :)
[05:21] <Tru7h> EADG_: Okay, thanks. As long as it's safe :P
[05:21] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, no I am on edgy
[05:21] <PanzerMKZ> so that I can call it from any dir
[05:21] <scarter> Tom47, dfwlinuxguy: google was returning too many irrelevant results... maybe its my own searching technique... I'm reading both now.
[05:22] <rococo> Tru7h: copy /var/log/syslog from the liveCD, get it to another computer, and post the relevant parts via a pastebin so we can look at it here
[05:22] <rococo> Tru7h: that is, using the livecd, copy what's in /var/log/syslog on your computer
[05:22] <Tom47> scarter ... my google ... "ubuntu make your own livecd"
[05:22] <PanzerMKZ> would it not be better to use a alt cd?
[05:23] <PanzerMKZ> instead of live cd?
[05:23] <rococo> Tru7h: the return code isn't really enough information for us to nkow what's going wrong
[05:23] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, any suggestions
[05:23] <f4ramir> hi
[05:23] <scarter> Tom47: i guess i'm too old-school and just use key words... gotta get used to natural language searches ;)
[05:23] <sdf> hi how can i install mondrian-v1.0beta8 ?
[05:23] <sdf> please help
[05:23] <pc_> dfwlinuxguy, lets say I did upgrade from edgy to feisty how would i fix it?
[05:23] <dfwlinuxguy> scarter.. the link I gave you relates to breezy to edgy...but it should work for edgy to feisty
[05:24] <Tarkus> hey, im trying to transfer 5GB of files to my laptop. i connected it to my router (my pc uses ubuntu, and the laptop uses vista).. i dont see the shared folders for my laptop in "Network".. any idea how i can transfer files to my laptop?
[05:24] <PanzerMKZ> Tarkus: SCP
[05:24] <PanzerMKZ> or ftp
[05:25] <sdf> please any one help
[05:25] <dfwlinuxguy> pc_ my xorg shows the font path to be /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc, I think edgy used /usr/share/fonts/misc
[05:25] <Tarkus> dont i need an ftp server for that?
[05:25] <PanzerMKZ> you got a linux box
[05:25] <PanzerMKZ> that can be an ftp server
[05:25] <dfwlinuxguy> add the X11 to each font path in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:25] <Varsendaggr> Crap  oobase isn't working worth crap...   how do i get it to work well?
[05:25] <buenas_werte> Tarkus: if your xp has IIS installed, ftp is part of that IIS
[05:25] <Tarkus> PanzerMKZ, all the desktops in my house are using Vista.. and i can access them with my ubuntu machine fine.. but my laptop isnt workin. im wondering what i need to do to set it up so i can see it in "Network"..
[05:26] <jamster545> all of this editing the GRUB is too complicated... i dont want to mess anything up
[05:26] <grndslm_> guys...i'm having some kinda hard drive problem... prolly kernel or hal. . . any advice on how i can figure out the [solution to the]  problem??
[05:26] <rococo> Tarkus: it's really easy to set up your machine to do ftp or sftp transfers. however, you can also do local network folder sharing without too much trouble. I'm rusty at it since I have the one computer, but if you want to do it that way I will help you because you are an ELP fan ;-)
[05:26] <PanzerMKZ> firewall?
[05:26] <excalibas> ok, i have installed sshfs, now what?
[05:26] <dr_willis> Tarkus,  its possible vistas firewall is blocking stuff..  You could use winscp under vista and transfer the stuff over,
[05:26] <buenas_werte> jamster545: its okay to hire professional help :)
[05:26] <quunick> hey, I have an old nVidia Vanta card with only 16 MB vram that skips frames watching videos. What would be a good card to upgrade to on the cheap? I don't care much about 3d games on this computer, I just want it for watching videos.
[05:26] <jamster545> *cant afford*
[05:26] <sdf> help
[05:26] <NemesisD> hi guys im trying to help someone get a scsi tape drive working in ubuntu, would the first step be cat /proc/scsi/scsi?
[05:26] <dr_willis> quunick,  you can get some pretty kicking nvidia cards in the $30 range now a days
[05:27] <PanzerMKZ> quunick: any newish card
[05:27] <cerealkiller219> I cant get my sound to work, and I've done all the troubleshooting :(
[05:27] <quunick> dr_willis: nice, what kinds should I look for
[05:27] <dfwlinuxguy> nemesis0...dmesg is your friend
[05:27] <jamster545> Diablotek quunik
[05:27] <quunick> PanzerMKZ: newish cards are expensive : |