[11:11] <geirha> porki: It's just laid out differently. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[11:12] <suigeneris> EsatYuce I remember you had it registered two or three weeks ago, but it seems unregistered now
[11:12] <EsatYuce> suigeneris,  yes, but why?
[11:12] <oCean_> EsatYuce: for registering help, please visit #freenode
[11:12] <Greg000000> Does anyone get results when you use ----> http://start.ubuntu.com/9.10/
[11:13] <iflema> yep
[11:13] <oCean_> Greg000000: sure
[11:13] <EsatYuce> oCean_, i found  freenode page about registering, thanks
[11:13] <Greg000000> ok  must be me
[11:13] <Real_Ubot> llutz: I don't know what is does. Does it ONLY store the key and password?
[11:14] <iflema> your person?
[11:14] <xxx_> Greg0000000 get a ubuntu startpage
[11:14] <oCean_> EsatYuce: not the page, the channel. Freenode's staff is there to help you
[11:14] <biopyte> oCean: ufw "ENABLED=NO", i guess thats the ubuntu firewall and its not running. Great!
[11:14] <kinja-sheep> EsatYuce: "Accounts which are at least two weeks old and which were last used less than two hours after their creation are also considered to be expired."
[11:14] <llutz> Real_Ubot: at least, yes
[11:14] <Real_Ubot> llutz: Will ssh-agent always ask for the password even if I restart the computer if I add the key using only ssh-add, not ssh-add -c?
[11:14] <jve> Hi, i'm experiencing the wierdest mouse behaviour. My mouse travels to the bottom left corner by it self. I have never experienced that before and i have tried swapping between different mice both wired and wireless. Whats going on?
[11:14] <zer0_mood> hi all ! how do i install a package i downloaded? its .tar.gz
[11:14] <oCean_> !ufw | biopyte the u is for "uncomplicated"
[11:15] <kinja-sheep> EsatYuce: When you log in IRC client, you need to type in password. There are many clients that allow you to do this automatically. I guess you didn't set that one up.
[11:15] <zer0_mood> hi all ! how do i install a package i downloaded? its .tar.gz ?
[11:15] <porki> ziroday and geirha, this linkhttp://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=101731  shows that how vast is win directory srtucture and it seems from the link you gave that linux file system is not indepth as win http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard
[11:15] <llutz> Real_Ubot: i'm not sure, i don't use it
[11:15] <EsatYuce> kinja-sheep, : i also sign in with password while startiningXchat
[11:15] <EsatYuce> i m trying now
[11:15] <ziroday> porki: I'm sorry I'm confused, what are you trying to achieve here?
[11:15] <zer0_mood> anyone can help me ??
[11:15] <kinja-sheep> zer0_mood: What package is that?
[11:15] <suigeneris> !configure | zer0_mood
[11:15] <Real_Ubot> llutz: I thought that ssh-agent somehow was necessary to use keys, not to store the password only. So that the usage of keys would be problematci disabling the ssh-agent.
[11:16] <zer0_mood> erm.. its ecliple for java
[11:16] <oCean_> zer0_mood: a .tar.gz is an archive. Unpacking: "tar xvfz filename.tar.gz", after that you might have to compile before you will be able to install
[11:16] <llutz> Real_Ubot: nope, it makes just authentication easier. read "man ssh-agent"
[11:16] <Real_Ubot> llutz: What d you use then, ssh-agent will usually be used default to handle keys, won't it?
[11:16] <kinja-sheep> zer0_mood: You can use the one in the repo.
[11:16] <suigeneris> zer0_mood ./configure && make && sudo make install,
[11:16] <tuuss> Could anyone tell me how to increase the microphone volume of my bluetooth headset?
[11:16] <suigeneris> zer0_mood ./configure && make && sudo make install
[11:16] <llutz> Real_Ubot: i disabled it for those reasons you mentioned before, ages ago.
[11:16] <zer0_mood> oh u mean via synaptic package ?
[11:16] <biopyte> oCean_, ubottu, when ufw is not enabled, do  i still have network protection? if so, why are there no filter rules according to iptables -L?
[11:17] <porki> ziroday , windows have lots of folder and subfolders inside , does ubuntu also have such indepth directory struc ?
[11:17] <xxx_> navigate to the folder where the source file is extracted using the cd commands….. and then  type the following… ./configure  make  sudo make install  clean install
[11:17] <EsatYuce> kinja-sheep,  it doesnt ask me about password while sign in the channel. WHY?
[11:17] <oCean_> biopyte: w/out ufw running, you have no "protection" on the machine. See the links in the !ufw factoid
[11:18] <Fyksen> How do I get a widget like this: http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=337635
[11:18] <oCean_> EsatYuce: please visit #freenode !
[11:18] <ziroday> porki: well of course, take a look in /etc or /var, what are you trying to find/learn here?
[11:18] <Fyksen> : )
[11:18] <geirha> porki: It's hard to compare. Windows and linux are two completely different systems.
[11:18] <EsatYuce> oCean_, : ok, thanks
[11:18] <tuuss> Could anyone tell me how to increase the microphone volume of my bluetooth headset?
[11:18] <Fyksen> How do I get a widget like this: http://www.diskusjon.no/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=337635 - Please PM me if you got an answer :)
[11:19] <porki> but what about the distors who are world smallest distros , they dont have os files ?
[11:19] <biopyte> oCean_, thanks for the info. great, so i have been without any protection all the time. i wonnder, why ufw is not enabled per default. thanks a lot, oCean, i"m going to reboot.
[11:19] <xxx_> zer0_mood you may have to compile package
[11:19] <Guest35715> Hi, I'm looking for the Linux equivalent of the MS paperclip.
[11:19] <Real_Ubot> llutz: Ok.
[11:19] <Guest35715> ;)
[11:19] <xxx_> hold on Guest35715
[11:19] <Guest35715> hehe
[11:19] <zer0_mood> the thing is the one in the repo is ~20mb and the one from the website is ~180mb so Im not sure which one i need
[11:19] <llutz> Real_Ubot: and i haven't seen any issues without it, yet (using ssh daily)
[11:20] <geirha> porki: Sure they do, and they follow the FHS, mostly.
[11:20] <Real_Ubot> llutz: Ok, how do I disable it completely then?
[11:20] <gheddy_zarc> is there a reason why would I need to run emacs in X11 mode instead of as client,, is x11 mode using sudo or root ? so I can save system files I edit ? I just wanna play with some bits of perl in an irc client eh
[11:20] <kinja-sheep> !info eclipse | zer0_mood
[11:20] <kinja-sheep> zer0_mood: All packages are compressed.
[11:20] <Guest35715> No, seriously, I have a Ricoh webcam on my laptop - the drivers just will not work!  It outputs *something* either very poor quality or just very fuzzy (but still responds to light/dark), I've googled everything, any suggestions?
[11:21] <xxx_> Guest35715 here is the list http://www.linuxrsp.ru/win-lin-soft/table-eng.html#5
[11:21] <llutz> Real_Ubot: 2 lines into your ~/.ssh/config: Host *   \ ForwardAgent no
[11:21] <Guest35715> thanks xxx - the paperclip thing was a windup sorry ;)
[11:21] <xxx_> Guest35715 never heard of a bot in linux for the paperclip????
[11:22] <xxx_> windup????
[11:22] <Guest35715> trolling xxx ;)
[11:22] <Real_Ubot> llutz: I don't think I have any ~/.ssh/config file at all?
[11:22] <Guest35715> i do have a serious question though about ricoh webcam drivers, if anyone has got theirs to work in linux...
[11:23] <llutz> Real_Ubot: create it
[11:23] <xxx_> you and all these fancy internet names
[11:23] <Real_Ubot> Ok
[11:23] <Real_Ubot> llutz: Ok.
[11:23] <xxx_> is there a sit for all this internet language referring to irc chat
[11:24] <Real_Ubot> llutz: Thnaks for helping me out on this one.
[11:24] <Real_Ubot> *Thanks
[11:24] <Tayl> Morning all. Quick question for you lot. When I boot the live CD, once POST is finished and the CD main menu is loaded, everything that is USB disables upon reaching the menu. They are supported because when the live CD loads after a time limit, they work again.
[11:24] <Tayl> Dying to get this installed before the wife wakes up and tells me not to =p
[11:24] <i00nsu> :D
[11:24] <i00nsu> heel ppl
[11:25] <i00nsu> i use ctrl+alt+F2 and now i am in text mode.. how i go back to graphical mode?
[11:25] <ziroday> i00nsu: ctrl+alt+f7
[11:25] <EsatYuce> i have one mp4 player, i found its files for operation system, i cant use it. there are mp3 files inside. but i cant see anything. what can i do?
[11:26] <minimec> xxx_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_commands
[11:26] <iflema> xxx_: wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC
[11:26] <xxx_> thank you some of this chat is sending me loopy
[11:27] <soreau> EsatYuce: How are you trying to view the files?
[11:27] <Guest56131> hi
[11:27] <lightbricko> How do I install GPSBabel 1.3.5? Only version 1.3.6 is in Synaptic, but I need to downgrade.
[11:27] <maffelu> right, xxx_ , this installment looks much better. Thanks for the assitance!
[11:28] <EsatYuce> soreau, : i run it with my car. But i put it to my computer with Ubnutu system, i cant see anything
[11:28] <kinja-sheep> !pinning | lightbricko
[11:28] <kinja-sheep> lightbricko: That only works if the older version is available. You can check it in Sypathic.
[11:28] <llutz> lightbricko: you have to find that deb somewhere and install it manually, then pin it/set it on hold
[11:28] <soreau> EsatYuce: That doesn't answer the question though. How are you trying to view the files?
[11:28] <kiwi_> oCean_, enabled ufw, reboot, iptable rules are active
[11:28] <xxx_> maffelu I dont use ubuntu good luck :)
[11:29] <lightbricko> kinja-sheep and llutz, thanks for helping! I will try to find it somewhere (it's not in Synaptic)
[11:29] <maffelu> wait, no, it fucked up :(
[11:29] <EsatYuce> soreau, i have some work, i will read all of your answers, thansks
[11:29] <xxx_> maffelu what the problem????
[11:29] <maffelu> the graphics
[11:29] <maffelu> get's all pixly and stuff
[11:29] <oCean_> kiwi_: if in need to modify rules, see the *rules files in /etc/ufw. Also, a reboot is not necessary. Just "sudo stop ufw" and "sudo start ufw" will do
[11:30] <maffelu> xxx_, you don't use ubuntu? You use debian?
[11:30] <oCean_> maffelu: mind your language in this channel please
[11:30] <maffelu> right, sorry
[11:30] <kiwi_> why is ufw not enabled default on the standard ubuntu install? recently, i found out that i have been using my laptop without any network security for almost two years. that doesnt make any sense to me.
[11:30] <xxx_> yes debian
[11:30] <maffelu> well, shouldn't ubuntu find the graphics routines automagically?
[11:30] <soreau> maffelu: What causes your pixelation?
[11:30] <llutz> kiwi_: because its useless in most cases
[11:30] <hamz1aatova1> why not the autocomplte at the address bar in firefox not always works???
[11:31] <kiwi_> llutz, why is this so/
[11:31] <i00nsu> clear
[11:31] <kiwi_> ?
[11:31] <i00nsu> clear
[11:31] <i00nsu> clear
[11:31] <maffelu> I have no idea. After I've selected 'install ubuntu' I get to the part where I select language, timezone etc and the screen get's all pixly
[11:31] <FloodBot2> i00nsu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:31] <minimec> maffelu: What king af GPU are you using, what kind of 'pixly and stuff' are you seeing on your screen?
[11:31] <maffelu> GPU?
[11:31] <maffelu> It's like watching a computer through TV if you know what I mean?
[11:31] <llutz> kiwi_: services should be configured right, so no "firewall" is needed.
[11:32] <iflema> kiwi_: generally not a problem... if ya have complicated setups your allready on the ball.. try firestarter
[11:32] <kiwi_> oCean_, i guess, for a standard desktop install, i dont have to tweak the filter rules, because these are set to reasonable defaults.
[11:32] <xxx_> gpu =graphics card or graphics processor unit
[11:32] <minimec> maffelu: Graphics processing unit
[11:32] <candy> kiwi, hi
[11:32] <maffelu> the graphics card is a SiS Mirage 2 Shared video memory (UMA)
[11:32] <candy> londonali1010, hey how to join that ubuntu
[11:32] <candy> londonali1010, m an newbie plz tell me
[11:33] <Guest56131> #linuxac
[11:33] <kiwi_> llutz, i see your point. but i thought network security is handled by the kernel via iptables environment.
[11:33] <minimec> maffelu: Do you know how much RAM your system has?
[11:34] <maffelu> 2GB mindnull
[11:34] <maffelu> minimec, 2 GB
[11:34] <llutz> kiwi_: basicaly yes, but if there are no services running, theres no need to filter something
[11:35] <llutz> kiwi_: and since most users just don't know how to setup filtering, they misconfigure iptables badly and just "feel secure", even worse
[11:35] <londonali1010> candy, Sorry, I don't understand your question?
[11:36] <kiwi_> llutz, so you say, with a standard ubuntu desktop install its unlikely that the box from remote, even without firewall setup? that would make sense.
[11:36] <xxx_> maffelu looked up that video card goes all the way back to Ubuntu 6.10 wow edgy
[11:36] <minimec> maffelu: Can you open a console and paste.ubuntu.com/ the output of 'lspci' and another paste for the output of 'dmesg'?
[11:36] <maffelu> so there is support?
[11:36] <kiwi_> hacked from remote
[11:36] <maffelu> minimec, I'm installing as we speak
[11:36] <llutz> kiwi_: check it out, run nmap from outside to scan that machine or netstat/lsof locally to find out what services are running
[11:37] <geirha> kiwi_: I've never bothered with a firewall in Ubuntu. Never had any problems with that.
[11:37] <candy> londonali1010, i mean what i  got to type to enter or join any group?
[11:37] <llutz> kiwi_: and users running additional services HAVE TO KNOW how to configure them secure. Filtering should always be the last step
[11:37] <minimec> maffelu: So you are installing Ubuntu 9.10 on the 'pixly and stuff' Computer right now?
[11:37] <maffelu> according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerAspire5024WLMi there should be no issues
[11:37] <maffelu> no, Ubuntu 9.04
[11:38] <maffelu> minimec, I checked that link which said that it would work with Jauny
[11:38] <londonali1010> candy, I'm using XChat client, which is quite easy to use, to join another channel, just go to server > join a channel... and type in the channel you want. If you're on terminal I can't help you!
[11:38] <candy> arvind_khadri, hey
[11:38] <SkareCrow> I deleted my Ubuntu partition and was presented with a grub recover> console at boot time. I am currently trying to get back to my Windows partition. I installed the mbr package and ran install-mbr /dev/sda1 and rebooted and it just printed out MBR twice and sat there. I also tried sda2 but my windows files are on that partition. There is some boot named files in the sda1 partition. Anyone have a clue on how I can boot back into my windows pa
[11:38] <SkareCrow> rtition. I can't seem to get back to the grub recover console any more either.
[11:38] <candy> londonali1010, i m afraid but i m also using xchat cient
[11:38] <minimec> maffelu: Ok. Let us wait until the installation is finished. Maybe you were shouting too soon ;)
[11:38] <llutz> SkareCrow: why sda1? mbr should be written to sda
[11:39] <Tayl> Is read and write to NTFS supported yet? It's been a while since I've used Ubuntu.
[11:39] <maffelu> allright, it will take some time cause I have to format my 100gb harddrive which has winXP on it
[11:39] <maffelu> I'll be back! :P
[11:39] <iceroot> Tayl: yes
[11:39] <Real_Ubot> llutz: I created the config file and then entered Host * on the first line, ForwardAgent no on the next line. I still don't have to enter password when connecting through ssh. Do I have to so something more to get ti wirking?
[11:39] <minimec> maffelu: OK.
[11:39] <iflema> Tayl: yep
[11:39] <Real_Ubot> *working
[11:39] <SkareCrow> llutz, I tried /dev/sda also, I attempted /dev/sda1 cause there is some boot named files in there and is only a 102mb partition
[11:39] <xxx_> maffelu good luck
[11:39] <Guest37548> #linuxac
[11:39] <maffelu> xxx_, minimec thanks. Hopefully this will work out :P
[11:39] <SkareCrow> llutz, the sda2 partition has my windows files on there
[11:39] <Tayl> iceroot, iflema: Thanks for the response.
[11:39] <llutz> Real_Ubot: indented 2nd line (ForwardAgent No)?
[11:40] <llutz> SkareCrow: mbr always resides on sda, otherwise its just a partition-boot-record pbr
[11:40] <xxx_> maffelu hopefully the drive is not one just supported in Ubuntu livecd
[11:40] <maffelu> xxx_, oh yea, didn't think of that
[11:40] <SkareCrow> llutz, well I tried install-mbr /dev/sda and I got the same as trying sda1 and that is just 2 lines of MBR and it just sitting there
[11:41] <Tayl> I assume that, as everyone was detected and functioning perfectly upon booting the Live CD, that everyone will work out of the tin upon a full install without any major need to play with drivers?
[11:41] <maffelu> well, good thing I have two computers, I'll throw the otherone away if this doesn't work =)
[11:41] <Tayl> *everything
[11:41] <ziroday> Tayl: yes
[11:41] <xxx_> maffelu no reason to it should work!!!!
[11:41] <Tayl> Brilliant, thanks!
[11:41] <lightbricko> kinja-sheep and llutz: I did what you wrote, and it works perfectly! I found the deb on packages.ubuntu.com in an older ubuntu version.
[11:41] <kiwi_> llutz, ok, i understand. thank you. that way, i better disable ufw, because its not very useful on a plain desktop install, anyway :-)?
[11:42] <kinja-sheep> lightbricko: Great. We're glad to hear that. :-)
[11:42] <Real_Ubot> llutz: By two spaces? Shall I use Tab instead?
[11:42] <llutz> Real_Ubot: just not at start of the line
[11:42] <llutz> beginning*
[11:42] <SkareCrow> llutz, I ain't 100% sure if I rebooted trying /dev/sda there is a 50% chance I switched it to sda1 again and tried it before testing plain sda
[11:42] <Real_Ubot> llutz: I don't.
[11:43] <SkareCrow> llutz, I will try it again just to make sure if you think that should work
[11:43] <xxx_> Tyal there are minor problems with drivers ,but if someone got the install done and loaded the desktop it should run...
[11:43] <biopyte> llutz, unstable connection, sorry, once more: is ufw rather useless on a standard desktop install?
[11:43] <llutz> biopyte: imho yes
[11:44] <biopyte> llutz, ok
[11:44] <Lama_Chok> Skare crow do you have ubuntu live cd
[11:44] <SkareCrow> Lama_Chok, I am on it right now
[11:45] <Lama_Chok> k download ms-sys
[11:45] <Lama_Chok> run it
[11:45] <SkareCrow> Lama_Chok, I tried
[11:45] <xxx_> Tyal the only way this may be different is if the user upgraded all the way from Ubuntu Edgy till Ubuntu Intrepid the driver maybe an old driver setup
[11:45] <Lama_Chok> What's the problem then
[11:45] <SkareCrow> Lama_Chok, I enabled both the universe and multiverse source and both do not contain ms-sys
[11:46] <Lama_Chok> download the file, not from software center
[11:46] <Tayl> xxx_: The last installation I've used was Hoary Hedgehog. Had some issues with my graphics card (ATi X1950)
[11:46] <SkareCrow> Lama_Chok, the file?
[11:46] <jxjl> good morning, I have some problems with my disk and it seems that some of system files are broken (for example I can't boot new kernel, but I can boot the older one), Is there any way, how to tell apt to check installed packages and reinstall broken ones?
[11:46] <SkareCrow> Lama_Chok, I went to the projects page on sourceforge and I had to compile it myself
[11:46] <Tayl> But I assume ATi's drivers have come a LONG way since then lol.
[11:46] <Tayl> Or at least, I hope.
[11:46] <Lama_Chok> ms-sys.deb file
[11:47] <SkareCrow> whats the difference going to be from using install-mbr /dev/sda?
[11:47] <biopyte> llutz, ok, in that case, whats the criteria to activate the firewall? how do you decide?  wait a minute, i know the answer:  there is no general rule, it depends on the case. :-)
[11:47] <biopyte> llutz, only academic question, not really important.
[11:47] <Lama_Chok> wait i will give u the link
[11:47] <minimec> jxjl: Why did this problem occur? Did you do a system upgrade 9.04 --> 9.10, or was it during daily use?
[11:47] <llutz> biopyte: thats the way _i_ see it, yes
[11:48] <candy>  i m having problem with wifi networking being detected in ubuntu 9.10 in my laptp vostro 1320... anybdoy help??
[11:48] <biopyte> llutz, ok, thanks, i have a clearer picture now.
[11:48] <jxjl> minimec: durning daily use, I tried to repai it with e2fsck, but the problem is still there
[11:49] <llutz> biopyte: firewalls are needed for complex network-setups, but on dedicated machines and not on desktops. 1st thing always has to be the service configuration
[11:49] <xxx_> Tayl support in Ubuntu is limited to newer hardware yes they support newer drivers ,but some older hardware becomes obsolete or un supported in new versions of Ubuntu that is why so many change to a Debian or Slackware version so they can run Stable or Unstable packages...
[11:49] <Lama_Chok> goto this link http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59596
[11:49] <Real_Ubot> llutz: It isn't working. I still can log into my ssh server without getting the password prompt one again even having the ~/.ssh/config file that contains the Host * on ine line and then ForwardAgent no on the next one.
[11:49] <Rasasor> help
[11:49] <biopyte> llutz, ok
[11:49] <minimec> jxjl: So... I would bakcup you /home data as soon as possilble, as a first step..
[11:49] <candy> dear ubuntuans anybody to suggest me??
[11:49] <iceroot> xxx_: debian is not supporting more hardware then ubuntu
[11:49] <Lama_Chok> have u done whatever they have asked?
[11:49] <iceroot> xxx_: ubuntu is supporting more hardware because debian is some kind of crazy about nonfree software
[11:50] <SkareCrow> Lama_Chok, sorry didn't realise you said something. Can you use my name next time
[11:50] <Rasasor> #ubuntu-de
[11:50] <candy> iceroot, ubuntu is best dude..
[11:50] <soreau> candy: What wifi card do you have?
[11:50] <iceroot> candy: for desktop, yes
[11:50] <llutz> Real_Ubot: that's odd, it should disable the agent for your connections to all (*) hosts this way. sorry, no idea why i won't do
[11:50] <Lama_Chok> k SkareCrow, do you have a bootable Windows XP disk
[11:50] <Tayl> xxx_: Ah, gotchya. I assume that if an obsolete piece of hardware that was supported in older versions that may have been removed from newer versions, the drivers can still be aquired and used?
[11:50] <candy> soreau, it came with the  laptop installed already
[11:50] <minimec> jxjl: Then I would probably try a new clean installation on '/' (I always have a seperate /home, which I normally don't touch when dooing a clean Installation).
[11:51] <llutz> it
[11:51] <SkareCrow> Lama_Chok, I told you already. I enabled the multiverse and universe sources and ms-sys doesn't exist
[11:51] <soreau> candy: Can you see what it is listed as in the output of 'lspci'?
[11:51] <candy> soreau, just a second
[11:51] <Lama_Chok> download from any other site
[11:51] <xxx_> iceroot I agree with you there ,but simple function of your desktop is what you aim for fast and friendly
[11:51] <SkareCrow> Lama_Chok, I do have the windows disk. I am using Windows 7 and the fixmbr doesn't exist on the recovery console
[11:51] <Real_Ubot> llutz: Ok. Thanks anyway.
[11:51] <SkareCrow> Lama_Chok, I attempted to use bootsect in the console also
[11:51] <jxjl> minimec: home is on another disk, that works, but I want to know if there is any easier way how to repair system than new installation
[11:52] <Sufixx> Hi, I'm looking for a gnome desktop wigdet/gadget that shows a miniature of all worspaces (something big enough to see what windows are open)
[11:52] <iceroot> xxx_: sure but on server i dont prefer ubuntu (debian unstable)
[11:52] <candy> soreau, i got alot of information. which one should i tel u?
[11:52] <minimec> jxjl: Are you on 9.04 or 9.10?
[11:52] <soreau> Sufixx: There is compiz Expo
[11:52] <Lama_Chok> no what you do is again delete all the partition containing Linux stuff using boot cd
[11:52] <Lama_Chok> SkareCrow
[11:52] <candy> soreau, its from intel corporation
[11:52] <jxjl> minimec: 9.10
[11:52] <soreau> candy: The one that talks about your wifi hardware, should say ethernet or so
[11:53] <candy> soreau, realtake semiconductor
[11:53] <SkareCrow> Lama_Chok, I have 2 paritions right now on sda. 1 contains some files containing Boot related files that belong to windows and sda2 contains my windows files
[11:53] <xxx_> iceroot disagree debian is upto the user to limit packages or install based upon unstable to your system or stable to your system...
[11:53] <Sufixx> soreau: yes, but I want it to be just part of the screen, and visible all the time
[11:54] <iceroot> xxx_: ubuntu is debian unstable (with patches). thats what i mean
[11:54] <minimec> jxjl: Try the palimpsest Disk utility once
[11:54] <soreau> Sufixx: I don't know of anything that would do something like that
[11:54] <candy> soreau,  is that okay dude
[11:54] <xxx_> iceroot I would admit its like applies to organes
[11:54] <soreau> candy: Can you paste the whole line ?
[11:54] <Lama_Chok> SkareCrow does Windows 7 cd allow repairing option
[11:54] <minimec> jxjl: http://www.linux.com/community/blogs/new-hard-drive-utility-in-ubuntu-910-palimpsest.html
[11:55] <candy> soreau, Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 03)
[11:55] <xxx_> iceroot no debian is stable you can select to install a package considered stable or unstable???
[11:55] <SkareCrow> Lama_Chok, I have 1 256 GB SSD /dev/sda1 = 102mb NTFS partition and /dev/sda2 = 255GB NTFS partition no other partitions or disks exist
[11:55] <iceroot> xxx_: hm i think you dont know what i mean. ubuntu is created from debian unstable.
[11:55] <candy> soreau, is that enough?
[11:56] <SkareCrow> Lama_Chok, I have ran it through the repair utility. All it does it check for missing / corrupt system files
[11:56] <minimec> jxjl: Also... try to boot inrecovery mode once, with one of the new kernels, you cannot boot.
[11:56] <SkareCrow> Lama_Chok, it doesn't seem to mess with the mbr
[11:56] <xxx_> iceroot was not aware of that fact
[11:56] <xrfang> is there a linux tool similar to autoit or autohotkey in windows?
[11:56] <Lama_Chok> SkareCrow ,,,Looks like Windows 7 and Ubuntu don't mix with each other well
[11:56] <Tayl> Are all applications installed to '/' or '/home' ?
[11:57] <SkareCrow> Lama_Chok, why?
[11:57] <jxjl> minimec: thank you for help, I will try and then I will tell the result
[11:57] <soreau> candy: Can you pastebin the output of 'iwconfig' to pastebin.com?
[11:57] <minimec> jxjl: np
[11:57] <iceroot> xxx_: ok, so ubuntu is based on debian unstable but on a server i want debian stable, so i am using ubuntu only for desktop where it is nice to have actual (unstable) software with usability which debian dont have
[11:57] <SkareCrow> Lama_Chok, they were working fine until I deleted the Ubuntu partition and it didn't set itself in the mbr which is obvious it wouldn't
[11:58] <hydrid> Happy new Year !
[11:58] <candy> soreau, hold on i m; doing  it
[11:59] <xxx_> iceroot interesting ... learned something new....
[11:59] <Lama_Chok> SkareCrow Once i accidently deleted ubuntu partition through XP's disk management. I started facing the same problem as u. But when i booted with XP cd, and simply restarted  , everything went back to normal
[11:59] <iceroot> xxx_: in this channel you always learn something new :)
[11:59] <SkareCrow> Lama_Chok, well. it isn't working for me
[11:59] <SkareCrow> Lama_Chok, unless I delete the windows partition I doubt any of the windows tools are going to help me at this time
[11:59] <iflema> oi..... there are no penguins in the northern hemisphere
[12:00] <Tayl> For a 250g HDD, do these partition sizes seem decent: /boot = 509mb, ext3, sda1, / = 100gig, ext3, sda2, swap = 1gig, swap, sda3, /home = rest, ext3, sda4
[12:00] <hydrid> Well the problem is in Firefox 3.5(Ubuntu 9.10) every page loads so slow. Its not so much the loading but the initial lookup, once it gets going the page objects load normal speed. This happens even opening Firefox and going to my home page www.google.com I have tried a number of options but no luck.ANY suggestions?
[12:00] <xxx_> iceroot I see that ... thats why I tend to stick to linuxquestions.org
[12:00] <trijntje> hydrid: yeah, thats a ipv6 issue
[12:00] <SkareCrow> Lama_Chok, I ain't about to delete my windows partition eaither. There are windows boot files visible on sda1 and all my windows files on sda2 and it seems all you could offer me was what I have been doing for the past 2 hours
[12:01] <SkareCrow> Lama_Chok, ain't trying to be an ass but getting a bit irritated
[12:01] <candy> soreau, http://pastebin.com/m65c76def u can check the output there
[12:01] <hydrid> trijntje: can you tell me what to do pls
[12:01] <trijntje> hydrid, you can fix that in firefox by going to about:config and setting network.dns.disableIPv6 to true
[12:01] <xxx_> maffelu what is up with the computer
[12:01] <hydrid> ok thanks trijntje
[12:01] <trijntje> you're welcome
[12:01] <MrWizeGuy1983> i installed windows 7 over windows vista and it wiped out my bootloarder for ubuntu, is there an easy way to fix that?
[12:01] <Lama_Chok> SkareCrow ur final resort :http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/reinstall-ubuntu-grub-bootloader-after-windows-wipes-it-out/
[12:01] <zoug> hydrid, trijntje: its odd, but a dpkg reconfigure -a did it for me.
[12:02] <zoug> i know its an ipv6 issue
[12:02] <minimec> MrWizeGuy1983: 9.04 or 9.10?
[12:02] <candy> soreau, when i login without switching on the wifi switch it works but if its on already and i  log in then wifi connection is not success
[12:02] <soreau> candy: That output indicates the drivers are loaded ok for your card. What is not detecting it exactly?
[12:02] <MrWizeGuy1983> 9.10 minimec
[12:02] <minimec> MrWizeGuy1983: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1306341
[12:02] <trijntje> zoug, really? Ill try that sometime, because all other network aps are still slow
[12:02] <MrWizeGuy1983> thank you minimec i'll check that out right away
[12:03] <candy> soreau, did u get me?
[12:03] <minimec> MrWizeGuy1983: http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/06/howto-recover-grub2-after-windows.html
[12:03] <soreau> candy: Ah, I see. Well it would be more useful to look at things while they're in there non-working state but apparently, everything is working right now
[12:03] <xxx_> iceroot going for aech linux next
[12:03] <xxx_> arch linux
[12:03] <zoug> trijntje, did you configure firefox ?
[12:04] <trijntje> zoug, yes
[12:04] <candy> soreau, but if now also i switch off and on again then wifi ll not connect
[12:04] <soreau> candy: Then don't do that :)
[12:04] <ecart> how to make the menu transparent?
[12:04] <candy> soreau, okei... thanks... :-)
[12:05] <soreau> ecart: If you have desktop effects enabled, it's easy
[12:05] <candy> :-)
[12:05] <candy> soreau, :-)
[12:05] <MrWizeGuy1983> minimec, is there a way to do it with the super grub disc?
[12:06] <soreau> candy: No telling what is happening. Maybe the module needs reloading, maybe it is a bug in the driver, cannot say. You would have to ask the realtec driver devs if you could find them
[12:06] <minimec> MrWizeGuy1983: I cannot tell you for grub2. 9.10 uses grub2 and I don't know if there is a Supergrub2 Disk You can use.
[12:07] <hydrid> trijntje: i did it but the speed is stil slow.(Imagine that the system is brand new with nothing installed yet extra).Thanks for the help thoou.
[12:07] <candy> soreau, u mean i got to put a complain to dell??
[12:07] <ecart> soreau my video card is 32mb onboard. already managed to leave the terminal over the menu items do not.
[12:07] <soreau> candy: I doubt Dell writes realtec drivers for linux
[12:07] <candy> soreau, but they dont take complains related to linux
[12:07] <MrWizeGuy1983> minimec, you helped a lot with that last answer, i get now why it couldn't recover my grub
[12:07] <minimec> MrWizeGuy1983: ;)
[12:08] <zoug> trijntje, hydrid: i think its sometimes the ethernet drivers.
[12:08] <candy> soreau, ya... i m helpless... dont know what to do... for time sake its ok.. but m afraid for other problems
[12:08] <soreau> candy: Don't complain to dell, ask on a reputable forum like linuxquestions.org for example
[12:08] <ecart> soreau
[12:08] <ecart> ...
[12:08] <xxx_> maffelu you alive
[12:08] <soreau> ecart: I didn't understand what you said
[12:08] <hydrid> zoug: hydrid, trijntje: its odd, but a dpkg reconfigure -a did it for me.Can you help cause trijntje option didnt help
[12:09] <candy> soreau, ya that would be a better option..
[12:09] <candy> soreau, frankly speaking i m a newbie to this... so its quite difficult for me to understand what they give for solutions until a manual conversation is there
[12:10] <zoug> hydrid, is it a fresh install or it suddenly stopped working?
[12:10] <candy> soreau, but i think i ll get with it soon...
[12:10] <hydrid> its a fresh install to a fresh new disk
[12:11] <ecart> soreau is to make the menu transparent? The terminal already done and the bars, less the menu
[12:11] <soreau> candy: Well it's better to report it because it might get fixed in the future
[12:11] <soreau> ecart: What window manager are you using?
[12:11] <pav5088> how does one find the list of packages installed by tasksel for various tasks?
[12:12] <hydrid> is there any other browser that bits firefiox in linux world?cause i think that is stupid an open source browser to work BETTER in windows!
[12:12] <pav5088> I'm playing with FAI and need some package lists to feed it.
[12:12] <candy> soreau, ya sure.. i ll do that.. can u get me some good list of forums where i can put my question and expect a better solution?
[12:12] <kevdog> kk\\
[12:12] <cor_r> hydrid, firefox doesnt work better on windows?!? but u could also use opera chromium aurora iceweasel etc.
[12:13] <soreau> candy: I would report on ubuntuforums.org and linuxquestions.org
[12:13] <xxx_> hybrid did you watch the video on speeding up your firefox web browser and how many add ons are you running
[12:13] <candy> soreau, okei... i ll do in both... and ll see what can i get... thanks alot
[12:13] <zoug> hydrid, its a system wide issue and its haunting since the karmic release.
[12:13] <candy> soreau, one more question
[12:13] <hydrid> cor_r: yes it works better in windows its much much faster than in ubuntu 9.10
[12:13] <hydrid> xxx_ i am not using any add on
[12:14] <ecart> soreau I am new to linux I would like to teach me how to
[12:14] <cor_r> im not using ubuntu neither windows, but still it works just fine on my linux system
[12:14] <candy> soreau, does vlc play all the formats?? or do i have to get other players or plugins??
[12:14] <noob2> is there a channel for rdesktop?
[12:14] <xxx_> iceweasel, chrome and opera are other choices
[12:15] <soreau> ecart: Well, what desktop environment are you using; ie. gnome, kde, xfce,etc
[12:15] <ecart> soreau you have some step by step how to do?
[12:15] <xxx_> I know chrome works fast
[12:15] <ecart> hum
[12:15] <ecart> gnome
[12:15] <ecart> gnome
[12:15] <FloodBot2> ecart: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:15] <hydrid> thanks zoug for your sincerely answer cause the others started shouting with my opinion in firefox and ubuntu
[12:15] <ecart> ubuntu 10 koala
[12:15] <ecart> kamic
[12:15] <pav5088> ecart, what kinds of things do you use your computer for?
[12:16] <zoug> hydrid, problem is with the OS itself and not firefox.
[12:16] <xxx_> ubuntu is finally becoming bloated
[12:16] <defenceminister> Can the root partition be resized and have more space given to a home partition without losing data?
[12:16] <cor_r> hydrid , as far as i know all of us gave u examples of other browsers..
[12:16] <soreau> ecart: So it is likely your window manager is either metacity or compiz. Bring up a terminal and look at the output of 'ps ax|egrep "compiz|metacity"|grep -v grep'
[12:16] <noob2> does anyone know the irc of rdesktop?
[12:16] <hydrid> ok zoug thanks i wll try another browser then to do my work better
[12:17] <cor_r> defenceminister, yes,gparted
[12:17] <maffelu> man, installing ubuntu is fast
[12:17] <hydrid> yes cor_r thanks i appreciate it
[12:17] <maffelu> xxx_, alive!
[12:17] <pav5088> if you can boot linux and log in, and then log out again you can use it.  :)  You can also learn how to use a hammer in a day...   but you'll be learning how to apply these tools to different jobs for the rest of your life (if you have lots of jobs you need to apply them to)
[12:17] <maffelu> xxx_, rebooting now, moment of truth
[12:17] <iflema> defenceminister: gparted live cd... just for partitioning and resizing
[12:17] <xxx_> maffelu ok
[12:17] <defenceminister> cor_r, do I have to run gparted from a live cd environment?
[12:17] <cemc> where is the option for deleting a file directly (aka without trash) in GNOME ?
[12:18] <cor_r> noob2, ltsp on freenode i think
[12:18] <pav5088> defenceminister, live CD is your friend.
[12:18] <defenceminister> gparted does not seem to allow me to resize, I'm assuming I have to be in a live cd environment.
[12:18] <maffelu> rebooting again (had to remove boot from disc)
[12:18] <cor_r> defenceminister, u dont have to but Id recommend
[12:18] <xxx_> ok
[12:18] <cor_r> defenceminister, like iflema said
[12:19] <noob2> i could ask there... but not really looking for ltsp...
[12:19] <maffelu> xxx_, problem still not solved, do I have to make the changes myself?
[12:19] <xxx_> terminal come up
[12:20] <pav5088> noob2, you could ask around in the general channels but I think you may have to use the email forums of rdesktop if you want to be sure of an answer.
[12:20] <cor_r> noob2, sry then i dont know :(
[12:20] <maffelu> how do I get terminal xxx_  :P
[12:20] <pav5088> noob2, what do you want to know?
[12:20] <maffelu> found it
[12:20] <xxx_> gdm
[12:20] <maffelu> gdm WARNING
[12:20] <maffelu> do I have to be root?
[12:20] <ecart> soreau $ ps xa | egrep
[12:20] <ecart> Usage: egrep [OPTION] ... PATTERN [FILE] ...
[12:20] <ecart> Try "egrep - help" for more information.
[12:20] <xxx_> no
[12:21] <ecart> ?
[12:21] <tankdriver> on
[12:21] <soreau> ecart: you missed the rest of the command
[12:21] <SetiAmon> I am having a problem
[12:21] <SetiAmon> can someone here please help me
[12:21] <soreau> ecart: Look at the output (between the 'tick marks') of 'ps ax|egrep "compiz|metacity"|grep -v grep'
[12:22] <andrea> ciao
[12:22] <maffelu> xxx_, so what can I do to fix this?
[12:22] <pav5088> SetiAmon, just ask your question... no need to ask permission  ;)
[12:22] <soreau> SetiAmon: There's no possible way we're going to guess what problem you're having if you don't tell us
[12:22] <xxx_> maffelu does this run up a window in gdm allowing you to pick driver
[12:22] <SetiAmon> basically.i bought a vga cable to output my video to my hdtv.it works but..... But then i get no video displayed on my flat panel monitor
[12:23] <maffelu> xxx_, do you mean if I enter 'gdm' in the terminal?
[12:23] <xxx_> yes
[12:23] <SetiAmon> Sorry soreau i just didn't want to ask a question without being polite
[12:23] <maffelu> xxx_, no, I get a warning
[12:23] <noob2> oh, then have anyone have trouble w/ sound when using rdesktop?
[12:23] <ecart> soreau hitler@Berlin:~$ ps ax|egrep "compiz|metacity"|grep -v grep
[12:23] <ecart>  1484 ?        Sl     0:36 /usr/bin/metacity --replace
[12:23] <soreau> SetiAmon: Which graphics drivers are you using
[12:23] <xxx_> maffelu what warning
[12:23] <maffelu> 'gdm[3551]: WARNING: GDM file gdm-daemon-config.c: line2042 (): Cannot run setup id to 0: Operation not permitted'
[12:23] <pav5088> SetiAmon, these channels are busy...  and "netiquette" says that it's fine to just ask right away.
[12:24] <soreau> ecart: There you go, so you're using metacity. If you want more effects you should use compiz. Which video card do you have as reported by the output of 'lspci|grep VGA'?
[12:24] <SetiAmon> I am using nvidia graphics drivers
[12:25] <cor_r> WTF ecart ? hitler@Berlin?
[12:25] <soreau> SetiAmon: Have you checked nvidia-settings ?
[12:25] <ecart> soreau sis mirage grafic 32mb onboard
[12:25] <jatt> ha
[12:25] <ecart> cor_r yes
[12:25] <soreau> ecart: Ah well you can't use compiz then
[12:25] <soreau> ecart: With metacity, you can have transparent window borders and even real terminal transparency, but not drop down menu transparency afaik
[12:25] <SetiAmon> i have a nividia 7900gs which has two dvi outputs.i bought a vga cable and had a dvi to Vga converter which works fine for my tv but then  i get no video on my flatscreen
[12:26] <xxx_> maffelu try xdm
[12:26] <cor_r> tsss
[12:26] <ecart> :<
[12:26] <maffelu> xxx_, I have to install it, hold on
[12:26] <Vhozard> Anyone here with a subscription to Nature ?
[12:26] <pav5088> SetiAmon, have you looked in your display properties in System/Preferences?
[12:26] <xxx_> maffelu ok
[12:26] <maffelu> ah crap, I have no internet, right
[12:26] <maffelu> have to fix that somehow
[12:26] <minimec> maffelu: I see, you still have your problem. Can you open a console and paste.ubuntu.com/ the output of 'lspci' and another paste  for the output of 'dmesg'?
[12:26] <maffelu> doesn't ubuntu have automatic detection?
[12:27] <spO> i type smbpasswd -a users   but it doesn't add anything password to password file
[12:27] <soreau> ecart: The good news is you can get a video card capable of running compiz for $10USD if that is an option fro you
[12:27] <pav5088> SetiAmon, you should be able to control which monitors are active in there.
[12:27] <soreau> ecart: Any nvidia or ati card made in this century should be able to run compiz :)
[12:27] <maffelu> minimec, I have no internet on that computer, is there something I should look for?
[12:28] <biopyte> using a core2 system i stil installed the i386 distro to avois compatibility issues. meanwhile, does this still make sense or could i use the amd64 branch without any potential problems?
[12:28] <Hadi> !grub
[12:28] <SetiAmon> pav 5088.but if i hook up my tv i get no output on my flatscreen...i can plug it up now when the computer is still running and hope i get both
[12:28] <soreau> maffelu: IMHO, you should get your internet working as a priority
[12:28] <minimec> maffelu: I need the output of that lspci |grep VGA That should give oyu something like that ... 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G73 [GeForce 7600 GS] (rev a2)
[12:28] <maffelu> then I need internet, hold on
[12:28] <minimec> 'lspsi | grep VGA'
[12:28] <soreau> ! who | SetiAmon
[12:29] <ecart> soreau v
[12:29] <minimec> maffelu: 'lspsi | grep VGA'
[12:29] <ecart> where I buy a card for 10 dollars?
[12:29] <soreau> SetiAmon: You never answered the question I asked you
[12:29] <soreau> ecart: On ebay? or anywhere on the internet probably
[12:29] <pav5088> biopyte, depends on the software you're using.  If you plan on running software distributed as binaries it's probably an idea.  i386 is actually more efficient at using memory even on a system capable of amd64...  so I'd go with i386 unless you plan on using more than 3-4gb of RAM
[12:29] <iflema> biopyte: i say go 64 make most use of cores.... if it aint mission critical, go.....
[12:29] <ecart> ;/
[12:29] <SetiAmon> sorry back
[12:30] <minimec> maffelu: "lspci | grep VGA" Am i drunk???
[12:30] <SetiAmon> i was rehooking up my cable to the tv
[12:30] <maffelu> minimec, '01:00.0 VGA Compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[12:30] <maffelu> (had to write it by hand, takes some time :P)
[12:30] <ecart> soreau ebay is fraud; /
[12:30] <SetiAmon> soreau I am sorry what did you ask me
[12:30] <soreau> ecart: Yes, you must be carefully when making any internet based purchase
[12:30] <biopyte> iflema, besides the memory issue, any advantages using 64?
[12:31] <pav5088> SetiAmon, but you can still see a picture, yes?  If so just control it using your TV
 SetiAmon: Have you checked nvidia-settings ?
[12:31] <iflema> biopyte: memory issue?
[12:31] <biopyte> pav5088, 2 GB is way enough for me.
[12:31] <soreau> pav5088: He is saying he plugs in the second screen and the first goes blank IIRC
[12:31] <SetiAmon> well I can't as it is way behind me in a angle.i wanted to output text and movies onto the tv.So i need/want more
[12:31] <SetiAmon> both
[12:31] <biopyte> iflema: adressing more than 3 GB
[12:32] <SetiAmon> soreau:I have checked the nvidia-settings but am unsure were i should check
[12:32] <maffelu_> Allright, I have intarnet on the ubuntu lappy. Is BitchX still official linux irc client :P?
[12:32] <pav5088> SetiAmon, so your screens aren't mirrored???  See if you can set up a mirroring mode BEFORE you connect your TV
[12:32] <iflema> biopyte: oh.. really. what the most intensive thing you do.... virtul machines?!?!?!
[12:32] <cor_r> biotype, if u dont have more then 2 gig of ram , 64 bit is not worth it
[12:32] <soreau> SetiAmon: It should be pretty obvious.. I think they have some sort of outputs or monitor section there
[12:32] <xxx_> minimec isn
[12:33] <minimec> xxx_: Sorry?
[12:33] <thisdotpheonix> is there any uility in ubuntu so that i can teleport the site to access it offline?
[12:33] <biopyte> iflema, plain desktop stuff,  alittle bit audio processing, once and a while.
[12:33] <Psycho> How can i transfer a setuid program across the network to another computer e.g via scp?
[12:33] <xxx_> minimec isn't that command lspci | grep VGA instead of lspsi????
[12:33] <SetiAmon> pav5088 i have never done this before sorry,were do I look to mirror it before hooking up my system?I am confused
[12:33] <pav5088> SetiAmon, if you can't mirror your screens perhaps make your TV the primary monitor...  this way you should still be able to see your menus etc... on your TV
[12:33] <soreau> thisdotpheonix: teleport what site?
[12:33] <minimec> xxx_: Yeah. but he got it right ;)
[12:33] <pav5088> SetiAmon, in System/Preferences there should be display settings
[12:33] <thisdotpheonix> soreau, any site from internet
[12:33] <iflema> biopyte: wait awhile.... lucid maybe
[12:34] <chipgeri1> python2.4-dbus  how to install this? its not there in synoptic
[12:34] <SetiAmon> brb going to hook up seperate cable
[12:34] <soreau> thisdotpheonix: That's a good question. If you find the answer, let me know :)
[12:34] <biopyte> pav5088, iflema, obviuosly, 32 or 64 ist not a very  important question  for the desktop user, right?
[12:34] <thisdotpheonix> soreau, ok
[12:34] <iflema> biopyte: more and more apps are created/ported for multithreading
[12:34] <thisdotpheonix> does any one know the answer to my question
[12:34] <thisdotpheonix> ?
[12:34] <soreau> thisdotpheonix: I know you can save individual web pages, but as for the entire site, I would think not
[12:35] <cor_r> biotype, it is, but actually u didnt mean amd 64 ...
[12:35] <pav5088> biopyte, not really...   UNLESS binary compatibility is a big thing.  Some software may still only be distributed as i386 binaries...  but if you plan on using all open source software it doesn't matter.
[12:35] <llutz> thisdotpheonix: wget
[12:35] <bakarat> how to set a primary display with xrandr? i got dual screen working find using the "nv" driver, but the taskbar etc is on the wrong screen
[12:35] <thisdotpheonix> soreau, it is possible in windows, there is this sofware called teleport
[12:35] <biopyte> iflema, thats right, actually i stepped on this question, because the cinelerra video software only exists as 64-ubuntu-binary.
[12:36] <thisdotpheonix> llutz, but will it save the entire site in my hard disk
[12:36] <llutz> thisdotpheonix: if the site allows, yes
[12:36] <Psycho> how can i copy a file to another computer over the network preserving setuid?
[12:36] <SetiAmon> ah
[12:36] <SetiAmon> found it finally
[12:36] <maffelu_> hi there maffelinux
[12:36] <thisdotpheonix> llutz, thanks, will try it out
[12:36] <maffelinux> hi maffelu
[12:36] <soreau> thisdotpheonix: A quick google search shows GNU wget and KWebGet might be alternatives
[12:37] <jellow> Psycho: though samba or ssh?
[12:37] <iflema> soreau: man wget
[12:37] <SetiAmon> pav5088 and soreau should i pick "twinview" or should i pick seperate x_screens. which one is a complete minitor output
[12:37] <llutz> Psycho: you cannot unless you're root
[12:37] <maffelinux> minimec: http://paste.ubuntu.com/350783/
[12:37] <Psycho> llutz: local or remote root?
[12:38] <llutz> Psycho: remote
[12:38] <biopyte> pav5088, i try to stay with ubuntu packages only, i just wondered if 64 has any significant (>10%) performance advantages, but this seems not to be the case.
[12:38] <soreau> SetiAmon: Most likely you would want twinview, if you want to drag windows between the screens
[12:38] <Psycho> llutz: so i would have to transfer and re-setuid it?
[12:38] <llutz> Psycho: yep
[12:38] <pav5088> SetiAmon, no idea...  perhaps google.  :}
[12:38] <pawel_121_> biopyte in some computation performance advantage is even much bigger
[12:38] <Psycho> llutz: is setuid tracked by the fs/os or the file itself?
[12:38] <xxx_> minimec there is the file
[12:39] <llutz> Psycho: fs
[12:39] <cor_r> actually it does
[12:39] <thisdotpheonix> soreau, thanks for the info, may be i should enhance my google search
[12:39] <SetiAmon> i don't want to drag stuff between screens. the other minotor is behind me.I want a EXACT same output
[12:39] <Psycho> llutz: is there anyway to turn off auto-nosetuid in ubuntu when it mounts a drive?
[12:39] <thisdotpheonix> soreau, i mean i have to punch in correct key words
[12:39] <minimec> maffelu: Your card is known giving problems. If you search the net using the lspci | gerp VGA output... You will unfotunately see tht.
[12:39] <thisdotpheonix> thanks guys
[12:39] <pav5088> biopyte, I've been told there's actually a penalty with some operations on 64bit...
[12:40] <llutz> Psycho: with changing udev-rules i think
[12:40] <soreau> thisdotpheonix: I just did 'teleport linux' ;)
[12:40] <soreau> thisdotpheonix: and clicked on the first link
[12:40] <llutz> Psycho: but anyways, you always need to be root to do
[12:40] <Psycho> yeah
[12:40] <pawel_121_> pav5088 what penalty?
[12:40] <Psycho> llutz: well i would be root, but it would slow me down a bit :(
[12:40] <biopyte> pawel_121_, ok, i stay with i386 unless some very convincing advantages coming up.
[12:41] <Psycho> llutz: thanks anyway
[12:41] <pawel_121_> biopyte for desktop it doesn't matter too much :)
[12:41] <cor_r> 64 bit is faster, but not interesting for ur setup of hardware
[12:41] <iflema> biopyte: april... when lucid hits re-format yeah.
[12:41] <biopyte> pawel_121_, i think so, i'd  better buy a faster hdd
[12:41] <llutz> pshr_: then just remount -o suid
[12:41] <cor_r> and u probably menat x64 and not amd 64
[12:41] <pawel_121_> biopyte yes, this makes a lot of difference
[12:42] <biopyte> iflema, what do you mean with "lucid"?
[12:42] <cor_r> biotype the new linux ubuntu
[12:42] <cor_r> *version
[12:42] <iflema> biopyte: next release of ubnutu 10.04 lucid lynx
[12:42] <biopyte> cor_r, i see, kk -> ll
[12:42] <iflema> biopyte: its also an LTS version... long term service
[12:42] <maffelu_> minimec, are there any options you can think of?
[12:43] <EsatYuce> I have one mp4 player which for car, i put it to my computer to load some mp3's. Then i reject it from my PC and put it another PC. At this time i cant see anything inside it. But when i click-right then properties, it sees it is full. How can I access the files?
[12:43] <ismettern> isent it long term support?
[12:43] <biopyte> iflema, i will definitly go for 10.04, but whats your point concerning 64 and lucid?
[12:43] <bgy> Hi
[12:44] <ismettern> hi
[12:44] <minimec> maffelu_: Try to get some infos here... http://www.winischhofer.eu/linuxsispart1.shtml#12
[12:44] <iflema> biopyte: wait or not... no point... if it aint mission critical upgrade
[12:44] <xxx_> maffelu Looking for a good result all so far give no anwser
[12:44] <riktking> does anyone know a program that will sort mp3's, i have about 4000 in one folder that id like to sort out!
[12:44] <xxx_> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/graphicsslow-performance-w-ubuntu-9.04-772078/
[12:44] <biopyte> ok
[12:45] <tim167_> hello, i have a partition to which i can not write because i am not the owner, how do i change that ?
[12:45] <maffelu_> minimec, that seems like it might work?
[12:45] <llutz> tim167_: what filesystem?
[12:45] <tim167_> llutz: ext3
[12:45] <llutz> tim167_: chown/chmod
[12:45] <bgy> i'm trying to run a program and i got : "error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2u_richtext-2.8.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" but the library are installed, the problem is that the program is a 32bit and i use ubuntu 64bits (karmic) i tried to use getlibs but i got another error saying the lib wasn't in my repositories
[12:45] <tim167_> llutz: i tried chown, but that didn't work
[12:46] <llutz> tim167_: where is that partition mounted to?
[12:46] <hummesse> Hi. I am having problems with the adobe flash plugin for firefox on ubuntu carmic 64 bit. I can't press buttons in flash. youtube can show videos, but pressing buttons in flash does not work. Anybody know a solution for this?
[12:46] <tim167_> llutz: it's a live usb key, i formatted the remaining space on it and want to use it as storage space...
[12:46] <iflema> hummesse: started 4 me three days ago
[12:46] <minimec> maffelu_: Yeah... Unfortunately I have no experience with SIS GPU, but that could be some kind of workaround, I agree.
[12:46] <tim167_> llutz: i used gparted to forlat unalocated space to a ext3 partition, it's mounted to /dev/sdb3
[12:46] <llutz> tim167_: mount it, sudo chown user:grp /mount/point
[12:47] <llutz> tim167_: /dev/sdb3 is the device, not the mountpoint
[12:47] <cor_r> riktking ucan use id3tool and rythmbox to sort the tags as far as i know, maybe there are more possibilities
[12:47] <riktking> thanks cor_r
[12:47] <tim167_> llutz: user:grp, literally, or replace it by  my user name ?
[12:47] <llutz> tim167_: replace
[12:47] <xxx_> minimec look at this site will this work for that SIS GPU... http://hardware4linux.info/component/24750/
[12:47] <EsatYuce>  I have one mp4 player which for car, i put it to my computer to load some mp3's. Then i reject it from my PC and put it another PC. At this time i cant see anything inside it. But when i click-right then properties, it sees it is full. How can I access the files?
[12:48] <tim167_> llutz: sorry it's /media/sdb3
[12:48] <cor_r> hummesse, how did you install?
[12:48] <petsounds> is bazhang around?
[12:48] <hummesse> just the default package
[12:48] <hummesse> i guess it must have happened during some dist-upgrade at some point
[12:49] <cor_r> tried removing and reinstall via the software manager in ur applications tab?
[12:49] <tim167_> llutz: i get "chown: changing ownership of `/media/sdb3': Operation not permitted", although i do it as su
[12:49] <cor_r> humemesse,tried removing and reinstall via the software manager in ur applications tab?
[12:50] <minimec> xxx_: Well... As you see, the card is not supported very well.
[12:50] <hummesse> no not really.
[12:50] <xxx_> maffle this site says your graphics card will work in Ubuntu 7.04  read the following  http://hardware4linux.info/component/24750/
[12:50] <llutz> tim167_: "sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb | grep sdb3"
[12:50] <hummesse> ill try that..
[12:50] <tim167_> llutz: /dev/sdb3            7199       14441     1970096    b  W95 FAT32
[12:50] <cor_r> try removing deps as well if possible
[12:50] <llutz> tim167_: either wrong partition or wrong partition-id
[12:51] <tim167_> llutz: hmm apparently it's fat32...
[12:51] <grawity> tim167_: FAT32 does not support storing file owners :| If it's an internal disk, add it to fstab, the owner of all files can be specified there.
[12:51] <llutz> tim167_: to make it accessible for users, you have to use uid/gid/umask as mount-options
[12:51] <maffelu_> xxx_, but then it should work in 9.04 too, right?
[12:51] <EsatYuce>  I have one mp4 player which for car, i put it to my computer to load some mp3's. Then i reject it from my PC and put it another PC. At this time i cant see anything inside it. But when i click-right then properties, it sees it is full. How can I access the files?
[12:52] <Subby> Hi I'm using the regex from http://www.regular-expressions.info/floatingpoint.html to get the result showed here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/350792/
[12:52] <Subby> but i doesn't work :(
[12:52] <xxx_> maffelu this driver is not supported to work in newer Ubuntu versions
[12:52] <tim167_> grawity: i'll try reformatting it to ext3
[12:52] <grawity> tim167_: / /dev/sdb3 /media/sdb3 vfat auto,fmask=011,dmask=0,utf8 0 0
[12:52] <Subby> uh sorry, wron channel :(
[12:52] <maffelu_> argh
[12:52] <maffelu_> so I ahve to install ubuntu 7.04?
[12:52] <bhaka> hi ppl!.. will installing linux-backports-modules break anything on my 9.10? having probs with iwlagn and they say it should be fixed in that module
[12:53] <tim167_> grawity: is that a command i should enter ?
[12:53] <grawity> tim167_: no, that's a line you can put to fstab if you want to keep FAT32
[12:54] <grawity> tim167_: except without the first / (typed accidentially)
[12:54] <minimec> maffelu_: No. That doesn't make sense. Downgrade to a distribution, that is not supported anymore, is no solution. And yes, you should have the same image quality with newer Ubuntu Versios in combination with your card.
[12:54] <grawity> tim167_: but really, NTFS or ext3 would be a lot better.
[12:54] <Guest81271> Hi! I have problem with connecting to my win 7 pc. When i try to login in to it from ubuntu, it asks for password, workgroup and username. I wanna login with the guest-login, so i type guest in the username and my password in password (i know its the right password) and the workgroup is WORKGROUP. But nothings happens when i click connect. I have the latest version of ubuntu, and they are connected trough a router.
[12:54] <xxx_> maffelu its starting to look that way read the following post http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-488185.html
[12:54] <tim167_> grawity: ok i can try that, just add that in the file fstab ?
[12:54] <cor_r> bhaka if u only use it for one package and not a whole ss upgrade it will be just fine
[12:54] <grawity> tim167_: yes, then remount /media/sdb3
[12:54] <tim167_> grawity: thanks, trying...
[12:54] <maffelu_> wait, minimec and xxx_ , getting opposite solutions from you now :P
[12:54] <grawity> tim167_: and again, is it an internal disk?
[12:55] <jxjl> minimec: I tried to run the disk utility it shows that there are 2 bad sectors, but self test says that disk is OK, when I try to run broken kernel in recovery mode I only get error message ERROR: sil: only 3/4 metadata areas found on /dev/sda, electing ... and then mounting ... Invalid argumrnt
[12:55] <tim167_> grawity: well its a partition on a live usb key
[12:55] <EsatYuce> I have one mp4 player which for car, i put it to my computer to load some mp3's. Then i reject it from my PC and put it another PC. At this time i cant see anything inside it. But when i click-right then properties, it sees it is full. How can I access the files?
[12:55] <m666> why does on a laptop ubuntu only boot on the first timre and then there is a failure to booting??? i cant understand what leads to that!!!
[12:55] <bhaka> cor_r: but its as one package in the package manager? i have to do apt-get install linux-backports-modules -- so does that mean i get alot of old drivers and stuff, including fixed iwlagn?
[12:55] <ghostknife> How can I use dpkg-buildpackage to build incrementally?
[12:56] <Shiba> I'm trying to rebuild my kernel (I needed a custom patch added) and I'm getting ABI errors
[12:56] <pezzi> hi
[12:56] <tim167_> grawity: i is seen as 'Removable Volume'
[12:56] <ghostknife> So, instead of cleaning, it should build only the files whose timestamps are greater than the previously build object files
[12:56] <resjudicata> has anyone had success running the moinmoin wiki from the repositories?
[12:56] <minimec> maffelu_: In Linux, you normally don't have regression. Means, if a hardware is once supported, there is no reason to stop support, unless there is no longer a reason to support the hardware.
[12:56] <pezzi> im ona live ubuntu, trying to 'su', i don't know what password i must use; pressing enter doesn't allow me in!
[12:56] <akar1m|off> ubuntu-tr
[12:56] <cor_r> bhaka, u only do that package so it should be fine, as long as u dont install trillion of other deps etc..
[12:56] <grawity> pezzi: Use 'sudo -i'
[12:56] <maffelu_> minimec, allright
[12:56] <Shiba> hashes of existing symbols were changed, but that is expected,  How can I override the binary checks and force package creation?
[12:56] <grawity> pezzi: The 'root' account is locked by default, so 'su' won't work.
[12:56] <maffelu_> but from these pages there doesn't really seem to be a working ix
[12:56] <minimec> maffelu_: So newer distributions generally have same or better support of hardware.
[12:56] <musictoto> pezzi: ubuntu doesn't support the use of root, it's locked
[12:57] <musictoto> !root | pezzi
[12:57] <cor_r> pezzi, sudo -s is the equivalent of su
[12:57] <bhaka> cor_r: actualy i should ask: if i completely remove linux-backports-modules via Synaptics, will it revert everything back? I dont want to break 3 more things by fixing iwlagn
[12:57] <pezzi> ah i see thanks grawity musictoto
[12:57] <minimec> maffelu_: 2nd thing. 7.04 is not supported with updates anymore. Do you want to use a system that is no longer on the market?
[12:57] <maffelu_> nono
[12:57] <Guest81271> Hi! I have problem with connecting to my win 7 pc. When i try to login in to it from ubuntu, it asks for password, workgroup and username. I wanna login with the guest-login, so i type guest in the username and my password in password (i know its the right password) and the workgroup is WORKGROUP. But nothings happens when i click connect. I have the latest version of ubuntu, and they are connected trough a router.
[12:57] <maffelu_> hehe, absolutely not
[12:57] <yellabs> how would i record webcam with sound?
[12:58] <maffelu_> but from what I read there are no drivers and there will never be any. And I can't change the graphics card in a lappy...
[12:58] <Keal> Um "dpkg -l | grep ^ii" didn't list Asterisk in Ubuntu Netbook Remix even though I properly used the proper apt-get line and it installed without error.
[12:58] <cor_r> bhaka, it shouldnt, and if it does, then ull see the output asking u first and you can abort ;)
[12:59] <minimec> maffelu_: You can probably optimize the output of your card, nut neither xxx_ nor me are experts in SIS GPU's. Try to search the net with the 'lspci | VGA' and maybe there is a SIS irc channel here.
[13:00] <EsatYuce>  I have one mp4 player which for car, i put it to my computer to load some mp3's. Then i reject it from my PC and put it another PC. At this time i cant see anything inside it. But when i click-right then properties, it sees it is full. How can I access the files?
[13:00] <maffelu_> minimec, allright, I will look on. Thanks for you help!
[13:00] <minimec> maffelu_: np
[13:00] <Keal> What does it mean when "dpkg -l | grep ^ii" didn't list Asterisk in Ubuntu Netbook Remix even though I properly used the proper apt-get line and it installed without error?
[13:01] <war9407> Does anyone here have a (new) Radeon 5XXX card (the ones that support eye infinity) working under Linux with Xinerama? (until the driver supports Eye Infinity?)
[13:01] <minimec> maffelu_: Try to find something about your Laptop on tuxmobile.org
[13:01] <llutz> Keal: dpkg -l asterisk*
[13:01] <cor_r> EsatYuce, might be a formatting problem, is ur other PC windows baseD?
[13:01] <xxx_> maffelu found a user in Arch linux running that graphics card
[13:02] <maffelu_> xxx_, oh??
[13:02] <fahadsadah> war9407: please see above
[13:02] <minimec> maffelu_: xxx_: nice. That could be a start. ;)
[13:02] <fahadsadah> Wait, what?
[13:02] <fahadsadah> !crosspost
[13:02] <EsatYuce> cor_r,  yes, it formatted FAT32,
[13:03] <xxx_> hold minimec and maffelu read this post out http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/wireless-internet/146665-solved-wireless-setup-ubuntu-9-04-a.html
[13:03] <EsatYuce> cor_r,  i neither access it Windows or Linux
[13:03] <andrea> ciao
[13:03] <Undertow> does ubuntu 9.10 have a /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[13:04] <dreamy> is there any app that can protect my amplifier from the "hi peaks" .. of in this case, you tube
[13:04] <Undertow> hi peaks?  as in loud volume?
[13:04] <cor_r> tried formatting it? or having a specific software u have to use? EsatYuce
[13:04] <dreamy> yes under
[13:04] <dreamy> very loud peaks..
[13:04] <dreamy> that can be harmfull for my apm
[13:04] <Undertow> jackd is an audio normalizer
[13:04] <dreamy> amp
[13:05] <Undertow> maybe try apt-get install normalize-audio
[13:05] <dreamy> Undertow:  but my firefox.. that i use to listen in you tube.. is not using jack ?
[13:05] <Undertow> not real sure, but what you want is something to normalize audio
[13:05] <nicole> hello, i have a HP  tx 1000 laptop. i had the wifi cnfigured and t was working till a few day ago. Under sysinfo there is nothing under network. curious is that direct conection does work but wifi doesnt
[13:05] <nicole> could someone help me please
[13:05] <EsatYuce> cor_r, , yes it had one program to run for car
[13:06] <MASARUwota> !wifi|nicole
[13:06] <dreamy> Undertow: ill do a seach on that name.. ty for helping
[13:06] <Undertow> jackd will normalize all of your audio
[13:06] <nicole> i did that all ready
[13:06] <dreamy> Undertow: how can jackd be used with firefox?
[13:06] <minimec> xxx_: He doesn't complain at all about GPU problems in combination with his laptop. Not a single word.
[13:06] <bhaka> cor_r: did you say sth after the line below? iwlagn crashed my laptop again :D
[13:06] <bhaka> (2010-01-03 14:56:22) minimec: maffelu_: In Linux, you normally don't have regression. .......
[13:06] <MASARUwota> nicole, youre using network-manager i presume?
[13:06] <nicole> but it seem my wifi card is somehow recognized anymore
[13:06] <nicole> and wifi radar
[13:06] <cor_r> EsatYuce, well maybe u gotta use that programm to exchange ur music
[13:06] <minimec> bhaka: I told him...
[13:06] <MASARUwota> nicole: ifconfig -a doesnt show it?
[13:07] <EsatYuce> cor_r,  i cant see anything inside the mp4 player
[13:07] <bhaka> minimec: yeah, sorry i used your line as the last line i saw before pinging out
[13:07] <maffelu_> xxx_, any luck?
[13:07] <Undertow> I dont know, there are probably plugins for firefox you can use to have it select whatever you use to normalize audio with
[13:07] <iefo> hello ppl
[13:07] <xxx_> bouncing around no solution
[13:08] <Undertow> does ubuntu 9.10 have a /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[13:08] <dreamy> Undertow: ok ill gibe it a try
[13:08] <nicole> MASARUwota eth0 and lo
[13:08] <xxx_> maffelu looks like this card lost support way back in ubuntu 7.04
[13:08] <MASARUwota> nicole ifconfig eth1 up doesnt work
[13:08] <MASARUwota> ?
[13:08] <Undertow> jenetik@darkside:/boot/grub$ ls menu.lst
[13:08] <Undertow> ls: cannot access menu.lst: No such file or directory
[13:08] <Undertow> jenetik@darkside:/boot/grub$ uname -a
[13:08] <Undertow> Linux darkside 2.6.31-16-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 8 04:01:29 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[13:08] <FloodBot2> Undertow: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:09] <Undertow> does anyone have menu.lst for /boot/grub?
[13:09] <Undertow> in 9.10
[13:09] <maffelu_> xxx_, how can it lose support? Once supported not always supported?
[13:09] <llutz> !grub2 | Undertow grub2 works different
[13:09] <iefo> i have the normal display resolution, and i played a game.. and now i have 80x600x... howto go back to my main resolution automaticly?
[13:09] <minimec> Undertow: grub2 is configured in /etc ... Have a look there
[13:09] <nicole> MASARUwota nope
[13:09] <cor_r> EsatYuce, have the music saved somewhere? Id recommend formatting ur drive, by what I understood from ur tellings
[13:09] <nicole> device doesnt exist it says
[13:10] <cor_r> or someone else any ideas?
[13:10] <xxx_> maffelu and minimec ran acrosst this in Arch using pacman
[13:10] <xxx_> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/wireless-internet/146665-solved-wireless-setup-ubuntu-9-04-a.html
[13:10] <Undertow> is there any way to edit the grub cfg from a keyboard shortcut right after the BIOS?
[13:10] <EsatYuce> cor_r, : there had many mp3's inside. But i cant access the Flash memory
[13:10] <Undertow> besides 'e' to edit it
[13:11] <maffelu_> xxx_, yea, I saw that one, but that's for the wireless
[13:11] <cor_r> EsatYuce, how did u get them on there then?
[13:11] <dreamy> Undertow: but when i mean about an application i was also meaning... if id get lucky.. that it could auto detect  this loud peaks :S
[13:11] <xxx_> maffelu ops wrong one here we go http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xf86-video-sis
[13:11] <Undertow> I am getting a weird problem, when I boot with my nvidia card, busybox/initramfs always boots and wont even get into recovery mode
[13:11] <Undertow> but works fine with the onboard video
[13:11] <EsatYuce> cor_r,  At the first, i accessed them, then i pasted some mp3's inside it.
[13:11] <tarelerulz> How do you do say 3 to the power of 4 in calculator in Ubuntu \
[13:12] <minimec> Undertow: You should be able to do that, when starting in recovery mode (left shift on boot)
[13:12] <MorphyNOR> 3^4
[13:12] <cor_r> tarelerulz, 3^4
[13:12] <cor_r> oh dang
[13:12] <Undertow> click the y^x button
[13:12] <Undertow> left shift?
[13:12] <MorphyNOR> set it to scientific
[13:13] <maffelu_> xxx_, pacman?
[13:13] <minimec> Undertow: yes. that changes with grub2. It was 'Esc' with grub
[13:13] <xxx_> maffelu minimec in the case of pacman they could use packages from ubuntu and red hat for a pacman package build
[13:14] <xxx_> pacman is the way Arch handles packages
[13:14] <ice_age_> I installed kubuntu desktop on top of ubuntu and my ubuntu bootscreen is gone. The boot process is hybrid- sometimes showing kubuntu,s and sometime's ubuntu. how can i get my old ubuntu back?
[13:14] <cor_r> EsatYuce, so u saw them first , but cant anymore? and its neither a distro nor a formatiting issue? sry, i dont know then :( maybe u want to come later or ask some else , sry mate
[13:14] <Undertow> I think this grub2 config is screwing up nvidia drivers
[13:14] <dreamy> Undertow:  its ok it was good help, ill do some reading on that audio normalizer
[13:14] <Undertow> err, nvidia cards
[13:14] <minimec> Undertow: I doubt that...
[13:14] <EsatYuce> cor_r, :  thanks
[13:15] <Undertow> I can't even boot into recovery mode with this old nvidia
[13:15] <xxx_> Problem with Arch it is done in a none graphical install and is compiled this is my next project and is a big one reminds me of BSD OS install
[13:15] <Undertow> just sits there with a blinking _
[13:15] <sephy> Where can I find a log that tells my why flash and moovida doesn't work?
[13:15] <sephy> tells me*
[13:15] <cor_r> xxx_, nah dont compare bsd and arch
[13:16] <cor_r> xxx_, more like gentoo and arch but even that would be a bad comparision
[13:16] <maffelu_> wow, this is way above my head
[13:17] <xxx_> maffelu yes ,but you need two computers one for the online manual to do a step by step install of directions or you would have to print out the manual page by page...
[13:18] <maffelu_> well, converting that page you sent to me to ubuntu talk and all. I was hoping linux had gotten a bit more userfriendly since I last left it :P
[13:18] <cor_r> maffelu_, better dont try arch if u did not seriously worked with lin yet
[13:18] <Undertow> minimec, is there a graphic GUI wrapper for grub2?
[13:18] <Jamed> xxx_: you mean arch? theres a manual.txt on the iso, you can just view it with less on another tty
[13:19] <maffelu_> cor_r, I'm not planning to :P
[13:19] <kevdog> cor_r: There is always the Chakra project which installs arch with KDEmod for you graphically!!!!
[13:19] <Undertow> !help grub2 gui
[13:19] <Undertow> !grub2 gui
[13:19] <xxx_> cor_r both arch and bsd use a non graphical install.... done netbsd...
[13:19] <minimec> Undertow: I don't think, that you have a grub2 problem. I rather guess you have a GPU problem. Don't know if you installed some restricted driver for nvidia. Did you?
[13:20] <cor_r> yeah chakra is nice, but in case of arch i would use kahel OS as newbie
[13:20] <Undertow> yeah, I installed that
[13:20] <Undertow> but wouldn't I be able to still get into recovery mode?
[13:20] <Elirips> Hello. where can I download the Ubuntu 9.04 cd?
[13:20] <llutz> xxx_: there are hundred of distros doing that non-graphical, still far away from bsd
[13:20] <minimec> Undertow: And then you rebooted that machine?
[13:20] <cor_r> xxx_, yeah non graphical install but this is the only thing they have in common
[13:20] <hackjkp> anyone can help me??
[13:21] <elijah_ro> Hello
[13:21] <cor_r> Elirips, ubuntu.com and the newest would be 9.10
[13:21] <cor_r> hello
[13:21] <hackjkp> firefox shows error abt incompatible gre
[13:21] <elijah_ro> i have big problem
[13:21] <Undertow> yeah, I've tried this about 50 times, I'm not new to linux
[13:21] <Wunderkind> does anyone know why i might be having problems getting feh to remember and use the background that i like on start up?
[13:21] <xxx_> llutz never found netbsd that hard to install.... hmmm I know Arch and bsd file system are way different...
[13:21] <hackjkp> anyone??
[13:22] <iflema> hackjkp: ?
[13:22] <elijah_ro> i instaled the driver printer canon LBP2900 on Ubuntu 9.10  , and dont work why? please help me:(
[13:22] <Undertow> even if I just change the video adapter from onboard to auto in the bios, it gets frozen on that flashing _ cursor
[13:22] <hackjkp> firefox shows error abt incompatible gre
[13:22] <llutz> xxx_: not only the filesystems are different, the whole systems are
[13:22] <minimec> Undertow: Ok. After you pressed the 'on' button, press 'left shif' and wait for the grub menu to come. Then boot in recovery mode.
[13:22] <hackjkp> what is problem??
[13:22] <elijah_ro> i instaled the driver printer canon LBP2900 on Ubuntu 9.10  , and dont work why? please help me:(
[13:22] <cor_r> elijah_ro, used cups to set the printer right?
[13:22] <minimec> Undertow: left shift
[13:22] <cor_r> elijah_ro, askin one time will work
[13:23] <elijah_ro> how set
[13:23] <hackjkp> Could not find compatible GRE between version <IP_ADDRESS> and 1.9.0.*.
[13:23] <elijah_ro> i beginer use linux
[13:23] <hackjkp> iflema??
[13:23] <Undertow> well, is that left shift any different than the Ubuntu <kernel ver> (Recovery Mode) menu choice?
[13:23] <elijah_ro> cor_r i instaled the driver LBP2900 ver 1.80
[13:23] <elijah_ro> :(
[13:23] <xxx_> llutz in what way just paths had changed were it stored graphics and reset of fill system are you telling me the kernel works different in both linux and bsd???
[13:24] <minimec> Undertow: 9.04 'ESC', 9.10 'left shift', means grub1 --> grub2
[13:24] <cor_r> elijah_ro, there should be a printer settings tab when looking under System preferences or and ur application tab
[13:24] <Undertow> let me try it I guess
[13:24] <cor_r> elijah_ro, most cases ubuntu installs the driver by itself though
[13:24] <Undertow> brb
[13:24] <llutz> xxx_: filesystem != way directories are used
[13:25] <llutz> xxx_: but anyways, it's ot here
[13:25] <xxx_> ok llutz going to have to look into this didn't grasp that part when using netbsd for 6 months...
[13:25] <cor_r> hackjkp, look here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/248493
[13:26] <elijah_ro> cor_r i instaled the driver
[13:26] <elijah_ro> is ok
[13:26] <elijah_ro> but dont work
[13:26] <elijah_ro> printer
[13:26] <elijah_ro> is see lbp2900 in system printer
[13:26] <elijah_ro> but dont work
[13:26] <elijah_ro> :((
[13:26] <xxx_> this is why I hate ubuntu there promising to much for to many users and there hardware...
[13:27] <cor_r> elijah_ro, well maybe u still have to set it up correctly in ur printer settings
[13:27] <elijah_ro> i seet coretly
[13:27] <llutz> xxx_: wrong place here to whine
[13:27] <cor_r> xxx_, same with win and also win only detects more hardware cause its bloated
[13:27] <Undertow> shift-left does nothing
[13:28] <tyl3r> hi there. I tried upgrading compat-wireless. After make install I have corrupted many modules (symbol not found when loading wlan modules). Could anyone tell me how I can reinstall my Kernel Image and have the corrupted modules deleted/overwritten ?
[13:28] <Undertow> I think my problem has to do with agpgart and intel_agp not being disabled
[13:28] <madPJKfan> hey everybody
[13:28] <Undertow> since I noticed that new grub.conf has video modes in it
[13:28] <madPJKfan> having some fun xfering my wubi install to a proper dual boot
[13:29] <Undertow> except when I blacklist agpgart and intel_agp, the onboard video still works
[13:29] <madPJKfan> did the whole LVPM thing - but now grub won't see my new install
[13:29] <madPJKfan> any tips?
[13:29] <xxx_> llutz cor_r not a windows person just don't like the idea of saying we run better then windows so do lots of bsd's and linux distro's
[13:30] <elijah_ro> i instal the driver on site canon LBP2900 for linux cndrvcups-capt 1.80 and cndrvcups common 1.80 is isntaled succes
[13:30] <disappearedng> how to deal with cue files
[13:30] <elijah_ro> and dont work
[13:30] <cor_r> xxx_, the thing though is, that it most of the time not only runs better but also faster, but dont wanna start a flame war here now
[13:30] <elijah_ro> what is de problem?>
[13:30] <andrea> ciao
[13:31] <madPJKfan> basically, I just think I need to muck around with grub to get it to detect the new install on sda3
[13:31] <iflema> ciao
[13:31] <xxx_> cor_r I dont disagree haven't used a windows computer in 4 + years
[13:31] <madPJKfan> have no idea how to do that... can anyone offer tips?
[13:31] <cor_r> elijah_ro, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/CanonPrinters/Canon_LBP_2900 http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/drucker-canon-lbp-2900/#post-1507125
[13:32] <cor_r> maybe ull find help there elijah_ro
[13:32] <iflema> Guest68181: ciao
[13:32] <xxx_> cor_r I have a windows xp desktop sitting right next to me haven't turned it on in 2 years
[13:33] <minimec> Undertow: But you should still be able to boot in recovery mode, otherwise you should have a grub error i guess.
[13:33] <cor_r> xxx_, dont get me wrong im not against windows, I myself have win7, but im just more in love with lin ;)
[13:34] <Undertow> it doesnt give a grub error
[13:34] <xxx_> cor_r dont get me wrong either I have a XBOX 360 that is about as far as I want to go with windows anymore
[13:35] <minimec> Undertow: Sounds strange to me.
[13:35] <Undertow> In 9.10, do you still blacklist drivers via modprobe?
[13:35] <Undertow> I had to disable the onboard drivers to get this working in older versions
[13:36] <Undertow> and whenever I see dmesg, it looks like they are loading
[13:36] <xxx_> maffelu I feel bad that we couldn't get that computer to boot ubuntu or they had a solution
[13:36] <cor_r> u still can if u need to
[13:36] <cor_r> xxx_, what was his problem?
[13:36] <maffelu_> xxx_, me too :P
[13:36] <minimec> Undertow: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-*.conf, yes.
[13:36] <xxx_> video card
[13:37] <cor_r> which?
[13:37] <Undertow> [    1.552780] Linux agpgart interface v0.103
[13:37] <Undertow> [    1.558339] agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: Intel 830M Chipset
[13:37] <Undertow> How do I disable that?  I've tried everything I can think of
[13:37] <Elirips> I need the old 9.04 release, but I'm too stupid to find the download-link on ubuntu.com, anyone knows?
[13:37] <xxx_> cor_r this one 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[13:37] <kinja-sheep> !releases | Elirips
[13:37] <kinja-sheep> Meh. That's not it.
[13:38] <Undertow> blacklist agpgart, blacklist intel_agp, blacklist intel-agp, blacklist agpgart-intel
[13:38] <kinja-sheep> Elirips: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/
[13:38] <Undertow> I've tried all those, shouldn't my onboard video be disabled after doing that?  (i.e., I can't even use it until I whitelist them)
[13:38] <Elirips> kinja-sheep, thanks
[13:39] <cor_r> Elirips, http://releases.ubuntu.com/
[13:39] <elijah_ro> i make to install all
[13:39] <cor_r> oh,well to late again :(
[13:39] <elijah_ro> dont work the printer
[13:39] <elijah_ro> :(
[13:39] <maffelu_> I still think it's weird that the problem wasn't stated here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/AcerAspire5024WLMi
[13:40] <elijah_ro> can help cor_r
[13:40] <elijah_ro> i very beginer
[13:40] <mint> hi guys, i have a big problem, windows erased my grub and now i cannot acces to ubuntu, im connected right now with a live cd and trying to acces to my ubuntus home directory, but it says its private, is there any way to acces to it_
[13:40] <elijah_ro> :(
[13:40] <Undertow> Where would I put # defoptions=quiet splash iommu=noagp,noaperture in grub.cfg?
[13:40] <elijah_ro> i use linux 4 day
[13:40] <elijah_ro> :)
[13:40] <minimec> Undertow: Try to blacklist 'blacklist i810' too.
[13:41] <elijah_ro> and i want install the printer
[13:41] <elijah_ro> to work
[13:41] <kinja-sheep> maffelu_: Perhaps you should use alternative disc.
[13:41] <maffelinux> kinja-sheep: how do you mean?
[13:41] <Undertow> i810 eh
[13:41] <Undertow> that sounds famailiar
[13:41] <kinja-sheep> maffelinux: Text-Based Installer instead of LiveCD.
[13:41] <kinja-sheep> !alternative | maffelinux
[13:41] <Undertow> minimec, where should I put # defoptions=quiet splash iommu=noagp,noaperture in grub.cfg?
[13:41] <Undertow> anywhere?
[13:41] <cor_r> xxx_, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/119321-solved-amd-sempron-video-problems.html
[13:42] <maffelinux> kinja-sheep: the problem seems to be that there are no drivers for this graphics card
[13:42] <cor_r> xxx_, is it that?
[13:42] <mint> c-mmon please someone help me please
[13:42] <minimec> Undertow: I am not used yet to configure grub2 config files.
[13:43] <elMariachi> hi there
[13:43] <kinja-sheep> maffelinux: Are you running linux on the laptop?
[13:43] <maffelinux> yea
[13:43] <cor_r> mint, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[13:43] <elMariachi> im having a problem with gmcs: http://pastebin.com/m6a25d8d8
[13:43] <elMariachi> gnome-do seems to depend on it
[13:43] <elMariachi> i upgraded to the latest gnome-do ppa packages, but the problem seems to be in gmcs, or mono
[13:43] <elMariachi> can anyone help me with that?
[13:43] <iflema>  mint: try mounting in terminal using sudo as a prefix
[13:44] <kinja-sheep> maffelinux: Run this whole command --> "sudo aptitude install pastebinit && sudo lshw -c video | pastebinit"
[13:44] <maffelinux> is it hard to install graphics card on a laptop?
[13:44] <kinja-sheep> maffelinux: And give me the link.
[13:44] <mint> iflema> it works, but then a script appears in the home directory in order to mount it, but doesn-t work
[13:44] <mint> cor_r? thank u very much
[13:44] <maffelinux> kinja-sheep: hold on
[13:45] <cor_r> mint, ur welcome
[13:45] <maffelinux> http://pastebin.com/f47c977c3
[13:45] <maffelinux> kinja-sheep: that's the link
[13:46] <kinja-sheep> maffelinux: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-sis/+bug/471749
[13:46] <jee> hello,i cannot unmount udf volume,it seems like dbus error..fs manager stopped working and after restart,no sound can be played.. how to fix it?
[13:46] <kinja-sheep> maffelinux: That's a confirmed bug. :o
[13:46] <jason81> \server Karma-irc
[13:47] <fujimitsu> how do i disable kacpid, top doesnt want to kill process
[13:47] <maffelinux> kinja-sheep: well, doesn't help to much, lol.
[13:47] <madPJKfan> cor_r: I have strange issue - grub can't find my new(ish) install...
[13:47] <iflema> fujimitsu: sudo killall [app]
[13:48] <fujimitsu> well, iflema , my primary concern is how to prevent kacpid from booting ...
[13:48] <kinja-sheep> maffelinux: You're done with installation, right? Just having the fuzzy monitor issues?
[13:48] <maffelinux> yea
[13:48] <fujimitsu> hence i want to know how to disable it in 9.10
[13:48] <llutz> fujimitsu: use boot-option "acpi=off"
[13:49] <maffelinux> one weird thing is that my /etc/X11/xorg.config is almost empty
[13:49] <xxx_> maffelinux http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/driver-problems-732549/?highlight=PCI%2FAGP+662%2F761Gx+VGA+compatible+controller%3A+Silicon+Integrated+Systems+[SiS]+661%2F741%2F760+PCIE+Display+Adapter     claims Mandriva works
[13:49] <elMariachi> maffelinux: afaik that file is not required anymore
[13:49] <fujimitsu> llutz: in the new .cfg file for grub?
[13:50] <alokito> why is the xfix gone in karmic recovery mode?
[13:50] <Jimmey> How can I configure gutenprint (select printer make, model, etc)?
[13:50] <llutz> fujimitsu: "somewhere", sorry i don't use grub2 and don't know where to put it there
[13:50] <alokito> how do we fix xserver problems now :o
[13:50] <kinja-sheep> maffelinux: You could try and reconfigure xserver-xorg by "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[13:50] <madPJKfan> can anyone tell me how to point Grub at my linux install on sda3?
[13:51] <alokito> the new users I mean... they don't know that much to fix xorg.conf manually
[13:51] <madPJKfan> it just only finds my wubi install as "unknown OS"
[13:51] <fujimitsu> you use grub2, madPJKfan ?
[13:52] <maffelu_> Knightlust, I'm reconfiguring it now, is there anything specific I should be changing?
[13:52] <alokito> :(
[13:52] <madPJKfan> fujimitsu: this is a ubuntu install
[13:52] <madPJKfan> karmic
[13:52] <howdeep> Hello. I need help mounting my cellphone so i can transfer files onto it...where should i start?
[13:53] <grawity> howdeep: is it not recognized automatically?
[13:53] <minimec> howdeep: Bluetooth or via USB? What kind of phone (model)?
[13:53] <howdeep> via usb, it is an HTC titan
[13:54] <knoxville> when i'm in terminal, and wants to see the text inside a textfile, without nano or vi, what is the command?
[13:54] <minimec> howdeep: Oh lord. You will have to deal with windows mobile I guess...
[13:54] <alokito> howdeep: set the mobile's usb mode to mass storage and connect it like any other device?
[13:54] <llutz> knoxville: less
[13:54] <alkisg> knoxville: cat, less, more...
[13:54] <madPJKfan> fujimitsu: how do i determine the version?
[13:55] <alokito> minimec: not necessary if it's a nokia/motorola or any other modern handset!
[13:55] <howdeep> mass storage...i have to find that. i think that's my problem
[13:55] <maffelinux> where are graphics settings stored these days if not in xorg.conf?
[13:55] <klown> should still be xorg.conf
[13:55] <klown> mine is
[13:55] <minimec> alokito: It's a HTC phone. That smells win mobile...
[13:55] <llutz> howdeep: read phones-manual, see "dmesg" after phone-plugin
[13:55] <maffelinux> but my xorg.conf is virtually empty
[13:56] <howdeep> yeah...unfortunetly it is win mobile
[13:56] <alokito> howdeep: it means that ur cell will introduce it's memory to ur pc as an usb pendrive!
[13:56] <alokito> minimec: hmm
[13:56] <klown> maffelinux, http://pastebin.com/f16e112bb is my xorg.conf
[13:57] <minimec> howdeep: There is a thread about HTC Ubuntu sync. Let's start with that.
[13:57] <minimec> howdeep: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=690624
[13:57] <howdeep> okay. thanks alot
[13:57] <GastonLaGafff> Hello. When I watch a dvb-t program, when the camera is turning, the image move by horizontal strips. It's very ugly, and painful for the eyes. What is the cause of this problem? I have a G45 chipset (Intel GMA X4500HD) but it's the same phenomenon when I use a NVIDIA 9600GT matrix with official pilots. I use kernel 2.6.32-2
[13:57] <llutz> minimec: syncing != accessing it per usb
[13:57] <alokito> maffelinux: hmm I'm also looking for the answer!
[13:57] <EsatYuce> what is the command to install aMSN for 9.10?
[13:58] <alokito> maffelinux: how do u fix graphics related problems now? any idea?
[13:58] <maffelinux> klown: that's mine: http://pastebin.com/m75ecbd73
[13:58] <minimec> llutz: You are right.
[13:58] <maffelinux> a.l
[13:58] <maffelinux> alokito: thanks!
[13:58] <maffelinux> alokito: don't, I've been running linux for less than one hour =)
[13:58] <klown> wow, you wern't kidding.
[13:58] <alokito> maffelinux: I mean "easily fix".. I know there's always those commands and files and all!
[13:59] <maffelinux> klown:  no =)
[13:59] <alokito> maffelinux: oh, lol :)... I'm an old user(Almost 4 years now!)
[13:59] <klown> maffelinux, have you installed anything as far as video, mouse, keyboard, or is everything default?
[13:59] <maffelinux> default
[13:59] <maffelinux> I just ran the config during install, that's all
[13:59] <klown> that may be why, you may have an easy configurable setups.
[13:59] <knoxville> What is the command touch used for?!
[14:00] <steven_> does anyone know how to increase the colors for xubuntu?
[14:00] <lizzzy> What's the bcm-wireless command to install the wireless drivers for bcm4312?
[14:00] <Undertow> minimec, I blacklisted intel_agp, i810, and agpgart and the onboard adapter still works..  :(
[14:00] <fujimitsu> madPJKfan: you most likely have grub2 if you did a fresh install
[14:00] <madPJKfan> can anyone tell me how to edit my grub config?
[14:00] <steven_> i am running a 600mhz imac crt
[14:00] <alokito> steven_: try appearance settings
[14:00] <Undertow> vi /boot/grub/menu/cfg
[14:00] <Undertow> vi /boot/grub/menu.cfg
[14:00] <klown> video card working correctly maffel?
[14:00] <minimec> Undertow: Well I guess I cannot help you further. I am sorry.
[14:00] <maffelinux> klown: oh no, working terribly
[14:00] <maffelinux> should I be rewriting xorg.config?
[14:01] <alokito> steven_: Applications>> Settings>> Appearance
[14:01] <madPJKfan> fujimitsu, Undertow: have determined where my install is via "find /vmlinuz"
[14:01] <klown> well, depends on your card.  the software for the card might set it up for ya
[14:01] <EsatYuce>  what is the command to install aMSN for 9.10?
[14:01] <iflema> lizzzy: bcmwl-kernel-source
[14:01] <madPJKfan> is it safe to edit the menu/cfg?
[14:01] <fujimitsu> madPJKfan: so, this is what i can tell you, if you can boot into the system, open terminal and do    update-grub
[14:01] <madPJKfan> is that all I need to do?
[14:01] <maffelinux> klown: what do you mean?
[14:02] <madPJKfan> fujimitsu:  I am currently in my loopback install, so I have terminal
[14:02] <fujimitsu> that .cgf file is not to be edited
[14:02] <klown> maffelinux, what video card do you have?
[14:02] <fujimitsu> just do update-grub and see if that helps you
[14:02] <maffelinux> maffelu@maffelu-laptop:~$ lspci | grep VGA
[14:02] <maffelinux> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter
[14:02] <maffelinux> Oh, is that spamming?
[14:02] <iflema> lizzzy: after that itll pop up in the harware thiingy under system /administraton
[14:03] <klown> 4+ lines i think, here.
[14:03] <maffelinux> allright
[14:03] <madPJKfan> fujimitsu: right
[14:03] <maffelinux> *phew*
[14:03] <steven_> appearance does not really give me more colors in the browser
[14:03] <steven_> it is like i am running on 4 bit
[14:03] <lizzzy> iflema: Sorry I had to logout and log back in. What's the command again?
[14:04] <musictoto> EsatYuce: i think it's in the package manager in the universe repository
[14:04] <steven_> i need to increase my color density.. this is a old imac. but in apple software the colors were good
[14:04] <iflema> in synaptic refresh then install bcmwl-kernel-source
[14:04] <lizzzy> iflema: I installed the restricted drivers
[14:04] <madPJKfan> fujimitsu:  is now asking me if I want to keep menu.lst
[14:04] <steven_> in this it is very low colors
[14:04] <lizzzy> iflema: Ah. Thanks a lot
[14:04] <lizzzy> :)
[14:04] <klown> maffelinux, im looking :)
[14:04] <EsatYuce> musictoto, , yes i m downloading now, thanks
[14:05] <steven_> who knows how to increase the color resolution in xubuntu
[14:05] <howdeep> 'new full speed usb device using uhci_hcd and address 7'  <-- what does this mean?
[14:05] <maffelinux> klown: ok, thanks. Appriciate it!
[14:05] <elijah_ro> i instal the driver on site canon LBP2900 for linux cndrvcups-capt 1.80 and cndrvcups common 1.80 is isntaled succes
[14:05] <howdeep> how can i mount the usb device?
[14:05] <llutz> howdeep: usb connected, but no mass-storage found
[14:05] <elijah_ro> i instal the driver on site canon LBP2900 for linux cndrvcups-capt 1.80 and cndrvcups common 1.80 is isntaled succes , who can help me?
[14:05] <Undertow> everyone is having this problem with the new ubuntu
[14:05] <Undertow> not just me
[14:05] <howdeep> llutz: okay
[14:05] <elijah_ro> but no print
[14:06] <llutz> howdeep: is there more in dmesg or does "sudo fdisk -l" show something?
[14:06] <musictoto> EsatYuce: no problem :)
[14:07] <howdeep> llutz: fdisk -l only shows my internal Hard disk partitions
[14:07] <llutz> howdeep: you might check your phones manual howto set it in usb-massstorage-mode (if supported)
[14:07] <Undertow> How do I tell what drivers my onboard video card is using?
[14:07] <Undertow> or modules rather
[14:07] <klown> maffelinux, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/119321-solved-amd-sempron-video-problems.html shows some information to get some support for your card
[14:08] <howdeep> llutz: will do, i'll try that first
[14:08] <klown> not sure how much it will help, not too good with onboard stuff.
[14:08] <maffelinux> yea, I know. should I try to implement it?
[14:08] <llutz> Undertow: "lspci -v" look for :Kernel-module in use
[14:08] <howdeep> is google down for everyone else too? or just me?
[14:08] <klown> maffelinux, id try, cant hurt much :P
[14:08] <klown> google is up.
[14:08] <Undertow> 	Kernel driver in use: i915
[14:08] <Undertow> 	Kernel modules: i915
[14:09] <Undertow> no way
[14:09] <Undertow> I have been using i810
[14:09] <Undertow> 	Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
[14:09] <Undertow> 	Kernel modules: intel-agp
[14:09] <Undertow> if I blacklist intel-agp, do I have to do anything with the kernel driver?
[14:09] <klown> maffelinux, make sure to back up your semi xorg, just in case.
[14:10] <irwan> #kiki
[14:10] <MenZa> I'm trying to setup ssh key authorisation on a remote system. I just want it to accept EITHER the ssh key, or a user/password. How do I do this in /etc/ssh/sshd_config?
[14:10] <erdei> haho
[14:10] <llutz> MenZa: just let passwordauthentication enabled, it will accept both then
[14:10] <MenZa> llutz: And what do I do to accept ssh keys?
[14:11] <MenZa> and tie them to specific accounts?
[14:11] <llutz> MenZa: it does by default too
[14:11] <MenZa> llutz: It doesn't appear to like my ssh key very much. It asks me to unlock it, but I just want it to verify that the private key is there.
[14:12] <asina12> how do i configure the alarm-clock package so that it will trigger an alarm once a month, every month
[14:12] <somnium> Hi, Im running 9.10 64-bit on dual core with 4g ram, several times now its maxed 6g of swap space (while ram is reportedly in 3.6-3.8 range), and X all but locks up
[14:12] <asina12> i tried man alarm-clock, but the it wasnt helpful
[14:13] <ortsvorsteher> test
[14:13] <somnium> are there any known issues/fixes? (Im considering switching to 32-bit), I used 32-bit 9.04 without ever such a problem before
[14:14] <Undertow> what the hell is going on..  I put in blacklist i915 and lspci still says it is using that kernel module
[14:14] <BoXis> hello
[14:14] <llutz> Undertow: you have to reboot
[14:14] <klown> somnium, im running 9.10 64bit with dualcore, and 4gigs of ram as well, and im not having similar issues.
[14:14] <BoXis> does anybody know how to configure a printer, I'm having some trouble with it, help?
[14:14] <maffelinux> klown: after I edited the xorg.conf, do I have to reboot or something?
[14:14] <somnium> klown: gnome?
[14:14] <klown> somnium, yes
[14:15] <iceroot> somnium: 64bit is working fine like 32bit
[14:15] <Undertow> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf: blacklist i915  I reboot and lspci still says Kernel driver in use: i915, Kernel modules: i915
[14:15] <iceroot> somnium: also with flash and java
[14:15] <klown> maffelinux, just restart x
[14:15] <Undertow> and I am booted into X with the onboard adapter when it should be disabled
[14:15] <Undertow> its like nothing changed
[14:16] <somnium> chrome or firefox? (chrome seems to consume a lot of memory)
[14:16] <klown> somnium, same as iceroot, and im running music, few terminals, empathy, xchat, and transfering files, and im only using 10.2m
[14:16] <klown> firefox, i dont like chrome
[14:16] <iceroot> klown: 10.2m?
[14:16] <maffelinux> hm, ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't reboot my X
[14:16] <BoXis> trouble configuring a printer, help?
[14:16] <klown> er, excuse me 1032m
[14:16] <iceroot> maffelinux: its diabled by default
[14:17] <maffelinux> how do I enable it?
[14:17] <klown> accidently hit the period :P
[14:17] <klown> maffelinux, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/119321-solved-amd-sempron-video-problems.html
[14:17] <somnium> on boot up its around 750m, usually just have emacs and firefox/chrome running, maybe kmail. Maybe chrome is leaking...
[14:17] <klown> er, wrong link, sorry :P
[14:18] <klown> http://ubuntu.igameilive.com/2009/10/enable-ctrl-alt-backspace-in-ubuntu-910.html
[14:18] <maffelu_> restarting X
[14:18] <iceroot> !dontzap | maffelu_
[14:18] <maffelu_> damn rebooting X takes time
[14:18] <Undertow> How come adding 'blacklist i915' to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf doesn't disable the onboard video?
[14:18] <klown> time?  takes me less than a minute ;x
[14:19] <maffelu_> it just says "*Reloading system log deamon..." and blinks
[14:19] <maffelu_> I think it died or something
[14:19] <klown> you killed your fresh install, congrats :P
[14:19] <maffelu_> crapelidoo
[14:20] <Homely_Girl> I need help sorting out my 2nd hdd plse. Any available brains?
[14:20] <trix> hi
[14:20] <klown> Homely_Girl, whats the issue with it?
[14:20] <maffelu_> LOL!
[14:20] <maffelu_> klown, it worked!
[14:21] <maffelu_> This is so silly!
[14:21] <klown> lol, good.
[14:21] <maffelu_> I bet it can only handle 2D, but that's allright
[14:21] <Homely_Girl> klown: It's got old installations 'n data on 'n is in 2 parts when I look at it....I jusst want it to be a 15gb data or /home drive! :)
[14:21] <trix> I have that really annoying type of problem, random freeze while playing any graphical game, only when playing games, and only after a random duration...
[14:21] <Homely_Girl> klown: I tried 2 do manual partitioning but got overwhelmed 'n confused! :(
[14:21] <trix> is there a way to check logs and see possible pre-freeze error messages?
[14:22] <llutz> trix: /var/log/messages, syslog
[14:22] <neptune_> hey I run a KDE application on my Gnome. My question is, is there a way to make the font of the toolbars bigger?
[14:22] <maffelu_> lol, klown the xorg.conf is now gone :P
[14:22] <trix> llutz: so cat /var/log/messages | grep (recentdate) should work?
[14:22] <nicolas> hello
[14:22] <trix> neptune_: Yes.
[14:23] <llutz> trix: maybe, but don't expect too much
[14:23] <trix> nicolas: Hi!
[14:23] <neptune_> trix: how
[14:23] <klown> maffelu_, its gone?  thats strange, maybe it loaded defaults for everything.
[14:23] <nicolas> i have a question about screensavering - is this the right place?
[14:23] <trix> neptune_: lol sorry i'm half asleep, I meant to say Yes, within the toolbar properties, or the appearance menu
[14:23] <trix> llutz: thanks! :)
[14:24] <trix> nicolas: Yep
[14:24] <trix> maffelu_: make.conf is gone!?  You made a backup... right?
[14:24] <trix> maffelu: I mean xorg.conf
[14:24] <nicolas> trix: is it possible to run a command instead of a screensaver when the time elapses?
[14:24] <klown> Homely_Girl, sorry, i cant help you with partition issues, i dont think ive ever partitioned a drive, always had it auto do it.
[14:24] <maffelu_> trix, klown, I found it :P
[14:24] <klown> trix, hes got it paste bin'd if necessary
[14:25] <Homely_Girl> klown: thanks anyhoo.
[14:25] <neptune_> trix: theres no such an option. I can change the font of the text i enter (say it's Kate) but not the font in the toolbars :(
[14:25] <trix> nicolas: Yes it's possible with a script, but I don't know how to do it
[14:25] <klown> maffelu_, hows it look now?
[14:25] <Undertow> Does my kernel need recompiled to not use my onboard video driver?  Seems that disabling modules doesn't work to disable it
[14:25] <maffelu_> klown, good, but it's only 2D I believ
[14:25] <maffelu_> +e
[14:25] <nicolas> trix: does it involve recompiling something?
[14:26] <trix> naptune_:  The font of an applications toolbars is not contained within the app itself, but within the Window Manager settings and / or QT settings.  Those are the places to look
[14:26] <trix> nicolas: recompiling?  not unless you are running Gentoo
[14:26] <neptune_> trix: i just don't know where to look at
[14:26] <nicolas> trix: fine, thanks!
[14:26] <Undertow> How can I disable '	Kernel driver in use: i915	Kernel modules: i915' from being displayed in lspci?
[14:26] <trix> klown: MMFWCL!
[14:26] <klown> mmfwcl?
[14:27] <trix> neptune_: I would look in preferences (in the GUI) under QT settings or Appearance settings or window manager settings
[14:27] <trix> neptune_:  But I'm not for sure either
[14:27] <neptune_> trix: to make my self clearer, i have already increased the font for my toolbars in my gnome applications, now i want to increase the font _only_ for KDE applications, otherwise the font in gnome apps will be too big
[14:27] <trix> klown: if you don't know then nevermind
[14:28] <trix> neptune: you can try kcontrolpanel (or whatever it's called) but you might have to install it first
[14:28] <sebastian_> hello
[14:28] <trix> neptune_: and it might pull in KDE itself as dependancy
[14:28] <trix> sebastian_: High!
[14:29] <klown> trix, i think i understand, but, the meaning i know isnt related to computers at all..same meaning?
[14:29] <dupondje> How can I make wodim closes sessions? I'm burning an ISO to a dvd, and it keeps creating 2 session disks ...
[14:29] <dupondje> :(
[14:29] <sebastian_> I have a problem, I have 9.10 and has sound off. I have unactive
[14:29] <jason81> \server Karma-irc
[14:29] <ubunturookie> hi
[14:30] <sebastian_> apps > gdm > simple-greeter > settings-manager-plugin > sound
[14:30] <sebastian_> and I have no sound
[14:30] <sebastian_> when I active it, I have still no sound
[14:30] <sebastian_> how can I repair it?
[14:30] <madPJKfan> so - lessons learned:
[14:30] <madPJKfan> 1.  You can teach an old dog new tricks
[14:31] <madPJKfan> 2.  It *IS* safe to hand edit menu.lst
[14:31] <raven_> how to redo a command periodically? for example df refresh every two seconds
[14:31] <klown> madPJKfan, but the saying is "you cant".  Have I been lied to my entire life"
[14:31] <grawity> raven_: Try 'watch df'
[14:31] <Homely_Girl> Anyone know how to apt get java for karmic? :)
[14:31] <Homely_Girl> I'm fedup with synaptic! lol
[14:31] <dupondje> READ DISC INFORMATION:
[14:31] <dupondje>  Disc status:           appendable
[14:31] <dupondje>  Number of Sessions:    2
[14:31] <raven_> grawity, yes tnx
[14:32] <FloodBot2> dupondje: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:32] <dupondje> is there a way to close the disk ?
[14:32] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  I want user 'test' to run an app on the display of user 'jonas'.  How do I go about this?
[14:32] <iceroot> Homely_Girl: sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jdk  (if you want jdk, else use jre)
[14:32] <Homely_Girl> iceroot: how do I know which one I want?? lol
[14:32] <jonaskoelker> ('display' in the X11 sense, i.e. on :0.0)
[14:33] <iceroot> Homely_Girl: normally you want jre i think
[14:33] <jonaskoelker> Homely_Girl: if you want to program in java, you want jdk.  Else, jre
[14:33] <sacarlson> dupondje: I'm not sure I saw all you asked but what we normaly do is umount a disk
[14:33] <jonaskoelker> Homely_Girl: you might also want jdk if you want to compile java apps from source
[14:33] <Homely_Girl> jonas: I am so not programming!! Just want stuff 2 work! ;)
[14:34] <zden> hi. I have got HP netbook and Karmic. I want to use external monitor when I close the lid.
[14:34] <klown> Homely_Girl, so does 80% of this channel :P
[14:34] <dupondje> sacarlson: unmount a disk wont close it session ... :)
[14:34] <jonaskoelker> Homely_Girl: that's what I though :)  Then the jre would be fine
[14:34] <Homely_Girl> klown: yeah sure but you're all brainy!! lol
[14:34] <jonaskoelker> Homely_Girl: or, if you don't mind using the disk space, install the jre just in case you need it and have forgotten at that time what you need
[14:35] <tertitten> NO_PUBKEY 7D2C7A23BF810 -- How can i find that excact key ? or any other keys missing for that matter ?
[14:35] <klown> Homely_Girl, I'd ask your partition question again, theres a few others in here that may be able to help ya.
[14:35] <sacarlson> dupondje: when i dought reboot?
[14:35] <Homely_Girl> jonas: Do u know how to sort my 2nd hdd out??
[14:35] <madPJKfan> klown: mythbusted
[14:35] <klown> madPJKfan, lol, thx for the info. :)
[14:36] <madPJKfan> so - YAY! I have my proper dual boot now...
[14:36] <klown> madPJKfan, way to go out and risk destroying your install (jk)  congrats though
[14:36] <dupondje> sacarlson: its a disksession ... like multi-session disks ? nothing to do with mount/umount whatever
[14:36] <Undertow> Can someone help me with disabling onboard video?  Please take a look at this output: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d20c30f8c
[14:37] <Homely_Girl> Okay mega brainy guys 'n gals.... I have 2 hdd's Linux is on my 10GB and when I look at "computer" my 15GB is in 2 parts! I'd like it to be one big 15GB preferably /home. Any ideas? I'm a huge novice b4 u get too technical! lol
[14:37] <klown> Undertow, cant disable it in the bios?
[14:37] <sacarlson> dupondje: like an nfs mount with many computers connected?
[14:38] <Undertow> I can do that, but shouldnt blacklisting the modules prevent it from working?
[14:38] <Undertow> I have a garbage dell that only lets me choose onboard or auto in the bios
[14:38] <Beefcakes> hi i want to change a shortcut in the Wine start menu, how do I do this?
[14:39] <grawity> Beefcakes: Using the menu editor.
[14:39] <Undertow> and I had to blacklist it before to get the nvidia to work
[14:39] <grawity> (the program name is 'alacarte')
[14:39] <Renfield> I'm having a difficult time getting my ALSA volume settings to be saved and restored after each boot.
[14:39] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  How does xauthority and such work under ubuntu 9.10?  How does user 'test' run an app in user 'jonas's X session (i.e. on his $DISPLAY)?
[14:39] <iceroot> Undertow: disable it in bios
[14:39] <klown> Undertow, i just think it would be easier to disable it in the bios
[14:39] <Promille> Good afternoon guys. Does anyone know about a good fps(frames per second) monitor, with ingame support ?
[14:39] <Promille> like fraps
[14:39] <Undertow> the problem is, when I boot with the nvidia adapter, it wont boot
[14:40] <Undertow> I cant even get into recovery mode
[14:40] <omar> when downloading fonts i get error i used a script and it got fixed now it says it needs to configure <,<
[14:40] <necroforest> Does anyone know how to switch the sound card in ALSA? I have an onboard sound, and I plugged in a USB device.. i want programs to play audio through the USB.
[14:40] <Undertow> and Im pretty sure its trying to use the onboard adapter in ubuntu
[14:40] <Renfield> I've executed sudo alsactl store 0, and it creates /var/lib/alsa/asound.state.
[14:40] <joh> pulseaudio at 1.2G memory, what's going on!?
[14:40] <cuddlefish> Hello, does anyone know what a "write error: invalid argument" error when trying to enable serio_raw means?
[14:40] <omar> ttf-mscorefonts installer 3.0 <,<
[14:40] <pat|nG> is it possible that i could run a 3D desktop on kubuntu? like i'll install it thru virtualization? can i run it? my friend told me that it wont work...is it true?
[14:40] <klown> Undertow, when you boot with the nvidia adapter, and the onboard disabled it wont boot?
[14:40] <techknowlust> I have a a problem using the ubuntu server install cd. It tells me I have corrupted low memory, even though running memtest seems to not show any errors
[14:40] <Renfield> But I does not restore that state on boot up.
[14:40] <zden> How can i tell acpi that event "lid closed" do nothing?
[14:40] <mimis> hi, do you know any good software that can convert video files to dvd like convertXtodvd in windows?
[14:40] <Undertow> yeah
[14:40] <techknowlust> any ideas?
[14:40] <Promille> necroforest: download padevchooser from reps
[14:40] <Undertow> I always had to blacklist i915/agpgart before
[14:40] <Renfield> If I manually execute alsactl restore, then it works.
[14:41] <dupondje> sacarlson: you know whats wodim ?
[14:41] <Renfield> I've tried adding that command to /etc/rc.local, but that didn't work.
[14:41] <necroforest> Promille, i have to use pulseaudio?
[14:41] <jtaji> mimis: 'devede'
[14:41] <Undertow> and I'm just trying to verify that the onboard IS disabled by booting with it for now
[14:41] <omar> can any one help?
[14:41] <Undertow> and it never gets disabled
[14:41] <mimis> jtaji: thanks, i will try it
[14:41] <Promille> necroforest: well, its easiest way to force the stream over to another soundcard if you catch my drift
[14:41] <Renfield> I also noticed that S50alsa-utils was not a link in /etc/rcS.d, so I added it, but that doesn't help either.
[14:41] <klown> zden, control panel, power management? (sorry, im on a desktop, so im not sure if the option is there)
[14:41] <Undertow> unless somehow the kernel is forcing it to use the i915 modules regardless of what I do with modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[14:42] <Renfield> I am not sure that alsa-utils is being executed on boot up. How can I tell if it is?
[14:42] <Undertow> which is seeming that way
[14:42] <Beefcakes> hello guys do you know where the shortcut files are in the wine start menu? i want to gedit them
[14:42] <mataernj_> hi my brother good day..!
[14:42] <Undertow> is it possible to disable kernel modules from loading?  or is that what blacklist.conf does
[14:42] <iceroot> Undertow: thats what blacklist does
[14:43] <alexlaban> Hello I'm having problem with Ubuntu Server 9.10 freezing
[14:43] <omar> help
[14:43] <omar> help
[14:43] <Renfield> I've set /etc/default/rcS VERBOSE to yes, and I have also set /etc/default/bootlogd to Yes, but I can't find any output.
[14:43] <Undertow> so why does it still say it's being used after I blacklisted it?
[14:43] <omar> ?
[14:43] <FloodBot2> omar: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:43] <alexlaban> It happens when I download stuff with the server
[14:43] <Harmen> hello
[14:43] <mataernj_> hi brothers good day, please visit my new blog www.blogeek.com.ve
[14:43] <iceroot> !blacklist | Undertow
[14:43] <Undertow> iceroot: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d20c30f8c
[14:43] <Undertow> check that out please
[14:43] <sacarlson> dupondje: it looks like k3b
[14:43] <baton> hi. do you know how i can install adobe flash player for ubuntu 8.1 ?
[14:43] <alexlaban> I've searched some and it seems like more people have been experiancing the same problem but I can't seem to find a fix
[14:43] <alexlaban> Anyone know a way to fix this?
[14:44] <zden> klown: you are right but X server switch to dual view
[14:44] <dupondje> looks like lol :) its the k3b backend
[14:44] <alexlaban> I didn't have the problem with 8.04 and 8.10 which I were running earlier it's after I updated the freezes started
[14:44] <Qu4R0w> baton: did u try apt-cache search [packagename]
[14:45] <baton> no. i did not try
[14:45] <pat|nG> is it possible that i could run a 3D desktop on kubuntu? like i'll install it thru virtualization? can i run it? my friend told me that it wont work...is it true?
[14:45] <klown> Beefcakes, what do you want to edit?
[14:45] <Qu4R0w> baton, then please take a try
[14:45] <Undertow> iceroot: did you look at that output?
[14:45] <iceroot> Undertow: dont have a x-server here
[14:45] <jussi01> pat|nG: #kubuntu ;)
[14:45] <klown> zden, never tried with a laptop, sorry.
[14:45] <maffelu_> is there a way to check if you isntall can handle 3d effects?
[14:45] <Undertow> can I paste it to you?
[14:45] <baton> thanks i will try
[14:46] <sacarlson> Undertow: I've had modules that still loaded even when blacklisted what I did was rename the module so it could be found
[14:46] <klown> maffelu_, i did a few searches on google, cant find anything about 3d support for that card.
[14:46] <pat|nG> jussi01 i'm been there and they told me join #ubuntu
[14:46] <pat|nG> now i'm confused
[14:46] <pat|nG> wew
[14:46] <Undertow> sacarlson, you mean so it couldn't be found?
[14:46] <maffelu_> hehe, klown, well well.  How to fix?
[14:46] <Qu4R0w> any1 can help me with rfcomm?
[14:46] <Qu4R0w> baton, nope :)
[14:47] <jussi01> pat|nG: it was wrong advice, please lets continue the conversation there
[14:47] <sacarlson> Undertow:  no sorry typo couldn't
[14:47] <klown> maffelu_, that doesnt mean it doesnt exist, that just means my google search didnt find anything.
[14:47] <sacarlson> Undertow:  I had similar problems when I was trying to disable ipv6
[14:47] <Undertow> so you just renamed /lib/modules/2.6.31-16-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i950.ko to i950.ko.backup or something like that?
[14:47] <baton> I i'll hope too =)
[14:47] <Like> hi i have a x-fi xtreme audio with no sound I tired a complete upgrade any ideas ?
[14:47] <maffelu_> allright klown
[14:47] <Undertow> this should be interesting
[14:48] <baton> sorry I'm noob. how can i install that package? apt-get install?
[14:48] <sacarlson> Undertow: yes that won't kill you try it
[14:48] <Qu4R0w> baton, yah
[14:49] <klown> baton, sudo apt-get install [packagename]
[14:49] <Undertow> guess I'll reboot to see if it works
[14:49] <Undertow> brb
[14:49] <baton> thanks
[14:49] <alexlaban> Anyone want to help me?
[14:49] <sacarlson> Undertow: if it ends up being more important than you thought you might need to boot from a live cd to change it back
[14:50] <Qu4R0w> alexlaban, just please write your question here
[14:50] <klown> alexlaban, its best if you ask your question to the entire channel
[14:50] <klown> er, Qu4R0w you're too quick for me :P
[14:50] <duffydack> I have an i7 in karmic, and using te cpu fewquency applet in panel I can control ondemand/performance etc for each cpu (8 with the i7) but it defaults to ondemand all the time, how can I set it to performance for all cpu`s on boot?
[14:50] <alexlaban> My ubuntu server is freezing when I'm downloading
[14:51] <Qu4R0w> klown, ha3..lol u klown
[14:51] <alexlaban> It started happning after I updated to 9.10
[14:51] <alexlaban> I didn't have the problem with 8.04 or 8.10
[14:51] <BlouBlou> alexlaban: When you're downloading what?
[14:51] <alexlaban> First I wasn't sure of what were causing it but I started to see a pattern and it's only happning when I'm downloading much and fast
[14:52] <alexlaban> Doesn't matter what or using what program
[14:52] <Qu4R0w> alexlaban, i not know with that..someone will answer you if they know how to help you..
[14:52] <psycose> Hi, using ubuntu karmic 32 bits, i got a bandwidth problem (-28 no enough bandwidth) using an USB Logitech webcam (046d:08f0, with driver STV06xx), i'm trying to solve this issue, on linux is it possible to tell the system to use another USB controller (see http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d67fa2b8d) thanks
[14:52] <jiohdi> Gimp is making my system freeze... only the mouse is able to move and do nothing... someone said this is a graphics problem, any way I can fix it?
[14:52] <alexlaban> Just downloading fast
[14:52] <alokito> jiohdi, run gimp in terminal, and see the output there before crash...
[14:52] <Undertow> who was just helping me
[14:53] <alokito> jiohdi, u said kde and others are ok?
[14:53] <Undertow> this is so messed, I have /lib/modules/2.6.31-16-generic/kernel/drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915.ko.backup and it still loaded
[14:53] <klown>  Undertow i think iceroot was
[14:53] <Renfield> Where are init.d scripts logged?
[14:53] <jiohdi> alokito: yes I have run it in different sessions as different users with different desktops and it works in all of them but gnome
[14:54] <alokito> jiohdi, hmm u might find out the problem from terminal
[14:54] <alokito> i'll brb dinner
[14:54] <jiohdi> alokito, if I do I will be offline in a moment :)
[14:54] <sacarlson> alexlaban:  you might want to turn on mem check on bios boot and see if you have a memory problem.  that's what normaly caused lockup for me.  but with it only hapening with Karmac maybe not
[14:55] <alexlaban> I've already tried switching memory and I don't get the problem under FreeBSD
[14:57] <sacarlson> alexlaban: the other problem that did cause lock up was my video driver,  if you have a Nvidia propraitary driver
[14:57] <daveluke> in visudo, how do i get out of "insert" mode?
[14:57] <daveluke> <- noob
[14:57] <enzotib> daveluke: ESC
[14:58] <daveluke> thanks enzotib :)
[14:58] <TDJACR> I'm trying to use IPv6 via a tunnel on a server of mine and ufw seems to block all ipv6 connections while allowing ipv4 connections to the same ports
[14:58] <TDJACR> And ipv6 is enabled in /etc/default/ufw
[14:59] <sacarlson> TDJACR:  the ipv6 tunnel I used was very slow so I'm now using naptd  my ISP didn't have ipv6 so I translate from ipv6 to ipv4
[15:00] <sacarlson> TDJACR:  and I'm not sure what ufw is
[15:00] <TDJACR> UFW is ubuntu's firewall
[15:00] <sacarlson> TDJACR:  oh firewall
[15:01] <BlouBlou> TDJACR: No, ufw is firewall manager
[15:01] <TDJACR> That is what I meant
[15:01] <sacarlson> TDJACR:  well I don't have much of a firewall so I don't have that problem, turn it off and see if it works, when it works fix your firewall
[15:01] <TDJACR> It is an interface to more complicated firewall tools
[15:01] <toader> Hi, how to covert *.swf to *.mp4 ? thanks
[15:02] <Gnea> toader: using avidemux
[15:04] <baton> thanks . i install that pacage =)
[15:04] <purvesh> how to join drupal channel
[15:05] <TDJACR> purvesh: /join #drupal
[15:05] <hyakuhei> hey all, how can I stop Network manager handling a particular interface?
[15:06] <JohnyK> hello
[15:06] <hyakuhei> i.e I'm happy for it to sort out WiFi but I'd rather manually configure my ethernet interfaces
[15:06] <ionut> how  can  i see the whole list of channels ?
[15:06] <sacarlson> hyakuhei: kill it   killall NetworkManager
[15:06] <JohnyK> type /list
[15:06] <jiohdi> GIMP is crashing my system... except for my mouse which still moves happily along but can do nothing more... I opened it in a window and nothing was indicated before the crash and now everything is still there staring at me... locked up, any way to fix this? my keyboard seems locked out as well... but GIMP does work find under kde and xfce and openbox on the very same system
[15:06] <ionut> JohnyK: thx
[15:07] <JohnyK> can someone tell me some irc bots for
[15:07] <JohnyK> ubuntu
[15:07] <sacarlson> hyakuhei: good point that would be nice.  I'm not sure how to keep it working on just wifi
[15:07] <ionut> JohnyK: u know a channel for multimadia in general ?
[15:07] <JohnyK> ma ionute nu stiu
[15:07] <JohnyK> depinde ce vrei sa faci:))
[15:07] <ionut> lol
[15:08] <jiohdi> also this is on a net top acer revo with nvidia graphics it that is the cause?
[15:08] <psycose> Hi, using uptodate ubuntu karmic 32 bits, i got a bandwidth problem (-28 no enough bandwidth) using an USB Logitech webcam (046d:08f0, with driver STV06xx), i'm trying to solve this issue, on linux is it possible to tell the system to use another USB controller (see http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d67fa2b8d) thanks
[15:08] <purvesh>  /join #drupal
[15:08] <IceTox> Hello! Is there anyone in here who have installed MSN Live Messenger with Wine? Other .exe files works with installing, but somehow neither of the downloaded MSN Live apps seems to start wine installer at all..
[15:09] <ChogyDan> !appdb | IceTox
[15:09] <peturrR> Hello, i did a fresh install of Ubuntu 9.10 to a Dell Latitude D620 Laptop. I'm unable to see the charge of the battery. After issuing the command "devkit-power --monitor" it's clear to me that Ubuntu thinks the computer is running on line_power_AC while its running on Battery power. Any help?
[15:09] <purvesh> what is Wine it is for ubuntu linux ?
[15:10] <ChogyDan> purvesh: an implementation of the win32 api
[15:10] <ChogyDan> ie, it lets you run windows programs on linux
[15:11] <blubb> hey
[15:11] <purvesh> ChogyDan, hey thanx for reply... but .. can u tell me in detail ... i didnt understand .... ?
[15:11] <blubb> is there anybody who could tell me how to setup multiple gdm instances (ubuntu karmic) ?
[15:11] <blubb> there is no /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom anymore, and i cant find something...
[15:11] <hyakuhei> thanks for the reply sacarlson :)
[15:11] <ChogyDan> purvesh: wine lets you run windows programs on linux
[15:12] <ChogyDan> !wine > purvesh
[15:12] <purvesh> ChogyDan, can u giv me the .... that software link... ?
[15:12] <sacarlson> hyakuhei: no problem,  did I crash your computer yet?
[15:14] <omar> can any one help meh?
[15:14] <brainsick> I have a Bluetooth Rocketfish KB/Mouse that I just purchased from Best Buy yesterday.  The keyboard modifiers (shift, alt, ctrl) don't work.  xev shows that the modifier key is released as soon as it is pressed, instead of staying held while the second key is pressed ... is this a keymap problem?  Is this a defective keyboard?  Are there some additional tests I can perform?
[15:14] <IdleOne> !ask | omar
[15:14] <sacarlson> ChogyDan: purvesh:  if you want to run windows programs on linux you should look at running windows in Virtualbox
[15:14] <duffydack> I`m using "echo performance > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor" but on boot its still defaulting to ondemand?
[15:14] <eurythmia> ChogyDan, I thought that wine was just a wrapper ... it would wrap appropriate *nix/*nix lib calls in win32 calls.
[15:14] <hyakuhei> hehe no sacarlson :) Once you 'disconnect' the eth0 in NM it doesn't seem to mind you bringing up / tinkering with the interface manually but I expect that once I yank the cable and plug it in again NM will pipe up
[15:14] <eurythmia> er ... in win32 functions
[15:15] <omar> how can i force config the ttf-mscorefonts installer 3.0?
[15:16] <schme> Hello, Ubunto. So what is the proper way to modify /etc/hosts on ubunto?
[15:16] <sacarlson> hyakuhei: well I'm not sure it seems to change things on me when I don't expect it.  so I just killall NetworkManager when I play manualy
[15:16] <omar> ...
[15:17] <toader> Gnea: I just installed avidemux, when i open the *.swf file, it complains "cannot open the file"
[15:17] <peturrR> NetworkManager is autostarted with your gnome session.. you can disable it
[15:17] <Gnea> toader: you might need to convert it first using ffmpeg
[15:17] <sacarlson> hyakuhei: or you can just restart it if you want it back to auto
[15:17] <purvesh> sacarlson, brother i have ... virtual box... but if windows program install in linux then... it will take less ram then the Virtual box ?
[15:17] <schme> Is there some GUI configuration or is the system ok with me just modifying it with vi?
[15:18] <sacarlson> purvesh: I'm not sure, I havn't played with wine in a long time. but I remember it didn't do everything but virtualbox windows does almost everything I have ever tried
[15:19] <ChogyDan> eurythmia: I don't think what you are saying is that much different from "implementation", I'm sure the wine folks would love it if wine were a simple wrapper to linux function calls
[15:19] <purvesh> sacarlson, ok.... thanx bro....
[15:19] <sacarlson> purvesh: and if you have enuf mem who cares, or go buy more?
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