[00:25] <doctormo> AlanBell: The rationale with having it a week later is to allow for CDs and not conflict with a wedding.
[00:55] <IdleOne> Would be pretty cool if Canonical could get in touch with Disney and arrange that the group photo be taken in front of the castle with Mickey and friends.
[00:55] <IdleOne> Mickey wearing an Ubuntu t-shirt of course
[03:17] <doctormo> Damn 27th build of xserver-xorg-input-wacom 1.8.6 has to be the lucky build.
[03:17] <Pendulum> oof
[03:17] <Pendulum> still building as Maverick?
[11:27] <ara> good morning all!
[11:27] <ara> (afternoon?)
[11:27] <dholbach> hola ara!
[11:28] <popey> uhm
[11:28] <popey> summit.ubuntu.com says "We'll let you know whether or not your request has been accepted after March 26th." when you request sponsorship
[11:28] <popey> that date should probably be changed
[11:38] <czajkowski> Pendulum: poked jono he knows
[11:38] <czajkowski> popey: poke jono he knows and mailed jcastro
[12:09] <czajkowski> ara: dholbach how goes the UGJ over there
[12:23] <ara> czajkowski, just starting slowly
[12:23] <czajkowski> nice
[12:25] <dholbach> czajkowski, we're 9 right now
[12:26] <czajkowski> excellent
[14:21] <Pendulum> hiya
[14:35] <vish> doctormo: https://twitter.com/michaelforrest/statuses/22433586462 . so, it does look like someone *is* working on the Free Culture Showcase.. :)
[15:50] <czajkowski> vish: your comment #17 on the wall paper bug is hillarious
[15:50] <vish> ;p
[15:50] <czajkowski> another daft bug  thats getting more attention for nothing thanks to omg and bens blog
[15:51] <czajkowski> comment son bug :it's not nice isn't really helpful
[15:52] <vish> czajkowski: considering hitting send on a reply titled "OMG!Ubuntu a bane or a boon!'
[15:53] <vish> not on the blog though , to the ayatana mailing list :)
[15:53] <czajkowski> ML and planet ubuntu springs to mind
[16:24] <vish> oh well , here goes nothing!
[16:38] <AlanBell> really there was nothing wrong with the original OMG article about the wallpaper
[16:38] <AlanBell> it just explodes into crazyness in the comments
[16:39] <AlanBell> and then Ben consolidates the nastiest for his blog
[16:43] <vish>  yeah , surprisingly the main blog was fine !
[16:43] <czajkowski> the canonical deisng team blog comments were respectful
[16:44] <AlanBell> does disqus come with a croud of angry teenagers built in?
[18:43]  * vish wonders if doctormo really drinks tea! :D


[23:49] <Fudge> thanks AlanBell
[23:50] <Fudge> i'm finally getting used to unity and the dash some more, sometimes the menus still do not read. it's pretty awesome how running things like dropbox transmission or weather indicater have their own menu's on the top panel
[23:50] <Fudge> something I do not like is it seems to me that if I am running one instance of something I can not choose from the launcher to run a second instance of it, like nautilus or mangler etc
[23:51] <Fudge> I have to run the program from alt f2


[05:53] <locknet> cls
[09:07] <maswan> Hm. Just hit a small snag at $work, the big Application has started to require zookeeper >=3.5, but there's only 3.4s packaged as far as I can see. anyone know of a 3.5 packaging somewhere that we could get going, or a reasonably well-maintained repo somewhere?
[09:12] <isene> Use Case = Large business needs a private cloud solution that hooks into AD and can be accessed as a file system from Windows Explorer, from an iOS and Android app and from web. Needs to be Open Source as specific extensions needs to be built for bidirectional access to files in legacy systems. Version control and easy rollback to earlier versions is required. Sharing to external parties via
[09:12] <isene> web links - both directories and specific files. There is a multitude of solutions. Can anyone here suggest one or two? And yes, should be running on Ubuntu.
[14:54] <sdeziel> I don't understand why the zfs-auto-snapshot package is in multiverse instead of universe. Its copyright file says it's all GPL-2+. What am I missing?
[18:39] <thelounge5207> I'm attempting to run an ntp server on my box so some devices I have isolated on the network can still get time updates, but when I attempt to enable the service, it says it's masked. should I go about doing this a different way?
[18:43] <sdeziel> thelounge5207: which OS version and what ntp server are you using?
[18:43] <thelounge5207> 20.04
[18:43] <thelounge5207> and just attempting to run systemctl start ntp
[18:44] <sdeziel> with 20.04, the recommended NTP server is chrony
[18:45] <thelounge5207> ahh
[18:45] <sdeziel> that said, ntp should still work. Could you pastebin the command and error?
[18:45] <thelounge5207> https://hastebin.com/ezuxodavus.sql
[18:46] <thelounge5207> I know I can unmask it, but sine I didn't mask it myself, wasn't sure if it was set that way by default for a reason and I should be wary with unmasking it
[18:46] <kinghat> i have unmounted a disk and im trying to write a fs to the partition but it tells me the system is using it. im not sure how to get around that.
[18:48] <sdeziel> thelounge5207: 'sudo systemctl unmask ntp' should get you going but I still recommend taking a look at chrony ;)
[18:48] <thelounge5207> will do, thanks!
[23:03] <isene> I have a couple of servers over at DigitalOcean. Both are plain Ubuntu servers. Upon upgrading to 20.04 I realize the servers are quite bloated with stuff I would never ever need - like X stuff etc. Is there a safe script somewhere that can remove the bloat?
[23:04] <sarnold> isene: I usually use apt purge on a package I suspect I don't need, inspect the list of things it's going to remove, then either go through with it or not
[23:04] <sarnold> isene: once I've done that a few times, then I use 'orphaner' from the deborphan package to find other things to remove
[23:05] <tomreyn> your first answer was not good enough.
[23:06] <tomreyn> (apparently)
[23:06] <sarnold> or it was perfect :)
[23:10] <tomreyn> hehe, good point
[23:10] <tds> or they just discovered their irc client doesn't count as bloat :D
[23:11] <sarnold> lol
[23:19] <selfy> Hello! I have a question about current process of building ubuntu cloud images. Maybe someone knowns the answer... I want to understand how ubuntu team create cloud images? which toolchain are they using? Can I find somewhere CI/CD build scripts? I want to try to create my own cloud image from scratch using automatic script (not from other cloud image). Sorry if this channel not for so lame
[23:19] <selfy> questions and supporting
[23:20] <sarnold> isene: once I've done that a few times, then I use 'orphaner' from the deborphan package to find other things to remove
[23:24] <isene> sarnold: So - what script (if any) did you use to automate the process? Because traversing the packages and lifting out bloat is a tidious process and could perhaps break stuff I I'm a bit too agressive...
[23:25] <isene> Or, rather - do you know of any such script?
[23:25] <sarnold> isene: I've always been content to just remove big things like X and clean up loose ends
[23:26] <sarnold> isene: another option is to start from the ubuntu cloud images and install just what you want, though that doesn't help with your existing machines
[23:27] <isene> sarnold: Yeah, I'd rather not spend the weekend going from scratch :-)


[19:36] <sarnold> blahdeblah: hah, that sentence has always struck me as strange. Launchpad of course tracks when packages are copied or moved into the -updates or -security pockets, and launchpad queries could answer that question. The archive's dists/focal-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  sorts of files get updated every time a package is moved into or out of the pocket, and snapshots of these could be
[19:36] <sarnold> collected daily or something similar, if a historical view is desired..
[19:37] <sarnold> blahdeblah: my gut feeling is that they didn't want to write a tool for it and didn't way to say so
[19:46]  * genii checks backscroll for context but doesn't find any
[19:47] <genii> Oh, two days ago
[19:55] <Odd_Bloke> IIUC, the baseline is from when the _advisory_ was published, not when the packages became available.  It looks like there is a specific file which contains this metadata, which they parse: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Standards_Rpm_Metadata_UpdateInfo
[19:55] <Odd_Bloke> So I think the equivalent would be USN metadata, not packaging metadata.
[20:02] <Odd_Bloke> And I _think_ those metadata files come from the repositories that the packages come from too: USN data (via OVAL, most likely) would be from a different source (and so might not be valid if you aren't using a full and up-to-date mirror of the archive?).
[20:15] <rbasak> Odd_Bloke, sarnold: yeah I think the information they need is available by API or other sources, but they expect to consume it only from apt metadata or something, and it's not there.
[20:20] <sarnold> I wouldn't blame them for not wanting tens of millions of instances of that implementation