[14:58] <nearst|away> technikfreak0815: try vlc-player
[14:59] <amanforindia> i have a laptop so probably onboard only but dunno about shared memory
[14:59] <technikfreak0815> the same
[14:59] <technikfreak0815> anway which player and which setting
[14:59] <OerHeks> technikfreak0815, clear youtube super cookies and browser cache ?
[14:59] <technikfreak0815> 3d, graphic card
[14:59] <coz_> restart required  brb
[14:59] <technikfreak0815> its also with local files
[14:59] <escott> technikfreak0815, thats not going to be too helpful as it doesnt show the crash. you can install mplayer and try mplayer -vo x11 video_file and see if the issue is something with gl or xvideo
[14:59] <technikfreak0815> just that i have on my home folder
[14:59] <OerHeks> amanforindia, shared memory could explain the use
[15:00] <technikfreak0815> also if skype shows webcam bam
[15:00] <amanforindia> it was not giving me trouble as even 1.5gb is quite big for most application but i recently starting using virtualBox
[15:00] <Layke> Is there a reason also, why I could drag the Netbeans 6.9 to the unity menu bar, but I can do that for Netbeans 7.01? When I do it, it just drops but doesn stay in the Unity menu.
[15:00] <technikfreak0815> any video related i logged
[15:00] <technikfreak0815> out
[15:00] <amanforindia> so how do i decrease the shared memory
[15:00] <OerHeks> amanforindia, adjust it in your Bios.
[15:01] <mukti> What are the major differences from 10.04 to 11.04?
[15:01] <iridium> amanforindia, lspci | grep VGA
[15:01] <amanforindia> even in memtest86+ it is showing only 1.6gb
[15:01] <iridium> lets see what returns
[15:01] <IdleOne> Layke: right click and keep in launcher
[15:01] <amanforindia> ATI card
[15:02] <amanforindia> VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Device 9802
[15:02] <Layke> IdleOne,  Yeah, I can't do that.
[15:02] <Layke> Tht only works if the icon is already in the menu bar.
[15:02] <Layke> I want to get it there.
[15:02] <Layke> It's strange. It's like the bar just won't accept this icon.
[15:03] <IdleOne> Layke: launch the app it should appear in the bar and then you should be able to make it stick.
[15:03] <IdleOne> Layke: if not, I don't know.
[15:03] <Layke> IdleOne: Thanks. That worked :)
[15:03] <Layke> Cheers.
[15:03] <IdleOne> welcome
[15:04] <iridium> amanforindia, seems to be AMD fusion, so almost for sure the integrated card will be reserving memory for itself
[15:05] <xTs_w> Hi
[15:05] <xTs_w> is there a reason why lib32asound2-plugins is not in natty?
[15:05] <amanforindia> would that have been the default setting? how do i optimize ram usage for VM's
[15:05] <axisys> so i need vnc-java for web browser to access my ubuntu laptop.. which one is preferred? tightvnc-java or vnc-java ?
[15:05] <mukti> What are the major differences from 10.04 to 11.04?
[15:06] <xangua> mukti: almost everything
[15:06] <Layke> lol. Except IdleOne the icon isn't clickable from the Unity Bar. So strange. I'll just live with typing netbeans and click for now.
[15:06] <Layke> Not seen this behaviour before.
[15:06] <xangua> a year of diference :P
[15:06] <IdleOne> Layke: must be missing some feature. report a bug maybe?
[15:06] <axisys> i use ubuntu classic
[15:06] <axisys> Layke: ^
[15:06] <BluesKaj> mukti, that wouls take too much room , go to a search for general questions
[15:06] <Layke> I don't know how I could provide a "how to repeat"
[15:07] <Layke> It's definately only specific to my system. Since otherwise all the people using Netbeans would have come accross it before.
[15:07] <Layke> How do I switch to classic? Just disable Unity Plugin?
[15:07] <Layke> axisys, ^^
[15:08] <ogra_> bug 820585
[15:08] <Spitfire19> equivalent of Cobian for Ubuntu Server?
[15:08] <escott> !classic | Layke
[15:08] <coz_> Layke,  log off
[15:08] <Layke> Cheers :)
[15:08] <coz_> Layke,   then  at the bottom,, just after  putting in the password  choose the classic session at the bottom
[15:08] <Bakou> good to know ubottu
[15:08] <coz_> Layke,   then hit enter
[15:09] <IdleOne> Spitfire19: try dejadup
[15:09] <Bakou> that maximized window thing was really bothering me, and the sidebar isnt very well thought out :\
[15:12] <Layke> Nice, think I might actually prefer Classic.
[15:12] <Spitfire19> IdleOne: I need something that can be run in Terminal.
[15:12] <Layke> Doesn feel like Iḿ missing anything and can actually easily see what applications are running and where.
[15:13] <Layke> I just don't like the menu bar above all the windows. I guess that's only Unity?
[15:13] <IdleOne> !backup > Spitfire19
[15:13] <IdleOne> Spitfire19: see if the link ubottu just sent you has more info
[15:14] <Spitfire19> thx, I'll check it out.
[15:14] <mokti> Could I remove Unity from 11.04, and set the default UI to gnome
[15:15] <segfault> Just set classic as the default session.
[15:15] <xangua> !classic | mokti
[15:16] <Sidewinder1> mokti, I believe, once you boot to classic, it'll "remember" and continue to do so... Not sire as I use Lucid.
[15:16] <mokti> Xangua Can I set classic as default and remove unity?
[15:16] <Sidewinder1> sure, even.
[15:16] <amanforindia> how to optimize ram for virtual machines??
[15:17] <mokti> Sidewinder1 is 10.04 Lucid?
[15:17] <Sidewinder1> Yes
[15:17] <IdleOne> Spitfire19: take a look here also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem
[15:18] <IdleOne> nm ubottu sent you that already
[15:18] <Nrm> bye everyone
[15:19] <mokti> Sidewinder: does that remember your default UI? (i haven't switched UIs for some time, and I'm not at my machine right now)
[15:19] <escott> mokti, it should
[15:19] <MuNk`_> Is it possible to resize the unity panel or move it in Ubuntu 11.04?
[15:20] <Sidewinder1> mokti, I think so, but I'm not absolutely certain.
[15:20] <IdleOne> MuNk`_: no.
[15:20] <IdleOne> mokti: Ubuntu will use the last session used as default.
[15:21] <MuNk`_> IdleOne, is it possible to lock it in place then? because if the Text in a window is to big it keeps pushing my icons off the edge of the screen
[15:21] <mokti> IdleOne: is it possible to remove unity altogether?
[15:21] <Sidewinder1> IdleOne, Thanx; that's what I thought. :D
[15:22] <IdleOne> mokti: I suppose so but why. use classic if you prefer and just leave unity installed.
[15:22] <IdleOne> MuNk`_: I believe you can in !ccsm
[15:22] <IdleOne> MuNk`_: if you drag the mouse over to the left edge of the screen the launcher should reappear
[15:22] <Bakou> unity would be fine if clicking the prog tabs again minimized
[15:23] <Bakou> and it didnt do that wierd ass maximize
[15:23] <IdleOne> Bakou: Please mind your language
[15:23] <mokti> IdleOne: do you know how big Unity is?
[15:23] <IdleOne> !info Unity
[15:23] <MuNk`_> IdleOne, not those icons , I mean the ones in the unity panel/systray
[15:23] <teemperor> Bakou: whats the problem with the maximizing?
[15:23] <Bakou> the top bar just feels so wrong
[15:23] <Bakou> and the buttons are on the left side, and the usual config cant seem to move them right
[15:24] <Sidewinder1>  Unity does not exist in natty?
[15:24] <Bakou> i like win7 ui just fine, wish it was more customizable to be like that
[15:24] <escott> !unity | Sidewinder1
[15:24] <teemperor> Well, on my netbook i'love those settings, on my desktop the only really bad thing is the global menu
[15:24] <jY> are there any packages or src-deb's for mysql 5.5 for 10.04?
[15:24] <escott> !classic | Bakou
[15:24] <mokti> IdleOne: do you know how big Unity is (size)?
[15:25] <IdleOne> mokti: not sure.
[15:25] <IdleOne> !info unity
[15:25] <Sidewinder1> escott, Yes, I know; I was questioning ubottu's factoid.
[15:25] <segfault> Is anyone using LightDM?
[15:25] <IdleOne> mokti: ^
[15:25] <Bakou> wel i still kinda like the idea of the pinned program tabs/icons
[15:25] <Bakou> its just a poor execution :|
[15:25] <escott> segfault, yes it is default for 11.10
[15:25] <segfault> What do you think of it?
[15:25] <Bakou> and not customizable enough, at least not easily
[15:26] <mokti> IdleOne, thanks. I'll just leave it since its so small lol
[15:26] <Sidewinder1> IdleOne, Must've fixed it. :D
[15:26] <teemperor> yes, settings for unity would be really fine
[15:26] <IdleOne> Sidewinder1: nah, package names are case sensitive. ubottu knows that I didn't :)
[15:27] <Sidewinder1> NP
[15:27] <Sidewinder1> U vs u
[15:27] <atg> #php
[15:27] <Sidewinder1> Got it!
[15:27] <atg> sorry
[15:28] <renancoelho> hi there, how do I get the feature in 10.10  that you can resize two adjacent windows at the same time?
[15:28] <Layke> Like with Unity, can Classic mode, remove Toolbars. Like I don't like having the menu bar on my IRC window.
[15:28] <escott> renancoelho, the tiling feature of ccsm?
[15:29] <mokti> By any chance would anyone know of a UI like wmii? (preferably without a 9p filesystem)
[15:30] <renancoelho> escott: I am not sure, I am new to it. I saw on-line, somebody had two windows each covered half the screen and he resized them horizontally
[15:30] <renancoelho> escott: at the same time..
[15:31] <renancoelho> escott: at the same time resizing one from the right and the other from the left, since these edges were touching..
[15:31] <zagibu> sounds like a killer feature
[15:32] <escott> renancoelho, not sure what wm would have that feature. compiz has a feature where you can ctrl-alt-numpad6 and make a window fit the left hand side but its only one window at a time. in gnome3 you drag the window to the side and it takes up half the screen. not sure about unity
[15:32] <segfault> In Unity, just drag to an edge to take up half the screen.
[15:33] <segfault> Drag to top to maximise.
[15:33] <coz_> renancoelho,  sounds like that person had group windows activated  in order to resize 2 wi ndows at once
[15:33] <renancoelho> I guess it is just hard to explain, i appreciate the help though, thanks!
[15:33] <renancoelho> coz: how to do that?
[15:34] <escott> !ccsm | renancoelho its in there
[15:34] <coz_> renancoelho, ok let me open ccsm ,, I used to do this let me check the settings
[15:34] <coz_> renancoelho,  ok do you have ccsm opened?
[15:35] <renancoelho> yes
[15:35] <coz_> renancoelho,  go to the window management category and click on the Group and tab windows plugin to get into it's settings
[15:35] <coz_> renancoelho,  the first thab,,"Selection"  is an option for mouse binding which is likely disabled
[15:35] <m_fulder> hey
[15:36] <coz_> renancoelho,  now just below that is the "Select single window"  options default  Super +s
[15:36] <m_fulder> I've just installed postfix on my server and try this PHP line: echo<EMAIL_ADDRESS>'Subject', 'Body', 'From<EMAIL_ADDRESS>'-f user@example.org'); ..though the webpage doesn't show 0 or 1 and I don't get any error messages in my var/log/mail.* logs :O..any idea what I could have done wrong?
[15:37] <coz_> renancoelho,  now,, if that plugin is enabled, if you select 2 windows with the super +s   both will be attached to eachother I believe and both should resize  but let me test here ,, its beena while :)
[15:38] <mokti> Does anyone use xmonad?
[15:38] <renancoelho> coz: Thanks, but i can't see group and windows plugin... could it be under a different name?
[15:38] <MuNk`_> hmm ok this is confusing, Is the notification area, called the system tray, or Unity.panel, because its starting to annoy me, all i want is for it to stay at the top right and stop moving off my damn screen >.>
[15:38] <coz_> renancoelho,   sudo apt-get install compiz-plugins-extra
[15:38] <escott> mokti, ccsm has some xmonad like features, but not as advanced
[15:39] <coz_> renancoelho,  then restaret compiz either by loggin off and back on or  compiz --replace & disown from terminal  unless you are on Unity then just log off and back on
[15:40] <RA_drc> hi, i think my graphics card driver in ubuntu is messed up - after a while, i can't read any of the text on the screen.  how do i fix this?
[15:40] <coz_> RA_drc,  which graphics card?
[15:40] <RA_drc> coz_: i'm not sure, how can i find that out?
[15:40] <coz_> RA_drc,  in terminal    lspci | grep -i vga
[15:41] <Morphies> Afternoon all, Newbie looking for a bit of help. Installation alongside windows 7, bootloader install failed
[15:41] <ikonia> Morphies: define failed
[15:42] <Morphies> Sorry, an error occured window on instalation
[15:42] <ikonia> installation of what
[15:42] <ikonia> Morphies: please try to be specific
[15:42] <mokti> escott, isn't ccsm just  options for compiz? Or am I missing something
[15:42] <escott> Morphies, if you are sure the error is with the bootloader but dont have the window open and cant see the error please manually reinstall the bootloader
[15:42] <escott> !grub | Morphies
[15:43] <escott> mokti, im not running compiz but ccsm has a tiling plugin that will allow ctrl-alt-numpad to tile windows to that location on the screen
[15:43] <mokti> Oh
[15:43] <Morphies> I have a window open now, the window title is Bootloader install failed. There are 3 options: Install to a different device, continue without a bootloader and cancel the installation
[15:44] <renancoelho> coz: Thanks so much for you help but I have to go now. Thanks again!! very helpful!
[15:44] <escott> Morphies, does this computer have only one hard drive?
[15:44] <ikonia> Morphies: where did it try to install to
[15:45] <RA_drc> coz_: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[15:45] <Morphies> I've told it to install to /dev/sdb on my 500gb main drive, i;ve disconnected my other internal drives but a 6tb esata raid drive is still connected
[15:45] <coz_> RA_drc,  ok  now you know which graphics card you have :)
[15:45] <coz_> RA_drc,  now  are you running 11.04 Unity?
[15:46] <ikonia> Morphies: it's more likley that it will be sda then if you only have 1 driver installed
[15:46] <ikonia> Morphies: once you put the second drive back in, it will change to sdb,
[15:46] <RA_drc> coz_: yes, i think so
[15:46] <ikonia> Morphies: this is one of the reasons you shouldn't disconnect drives while you are trying to install
[15:46] <Morphies> no, sta is coming up as the 6tb external esata
[15:46] <coz_> RA_drc,  do you have the large launcher on the left side of the screen?
[15:46] <RA_drc> coz_: yes
[15:46] <ikonia> Morphies: intteresting, then you should be fine to sdb
[15:47] <coz_> RA_drc,  ok  see if you have  compizconfig-settings-manager installed
[15:47] <Morphies> well i tried installing with the drives connected and couldn't select the 500gb OS drive to create the partition on
[15:47] <coz_> RA_drc,  in a terminal type     ccsm
[15:47] <Morphies> it wanted touse one of the 1.5tb data drives
[15:47] <Joe0006> in ubuntu you install one thing then it ask for another thing. then when you start program is missing something
[15:47] <Joe0006> what the heck
[15:47] <Morphies> to use*
[15:47] <mokti> I have one last question, then I have to get out of here
[15:47] <ikonia> Morphies: that suggests there is a more deep issue
[15:47] <RA_drc> coz_: i don't have it, should i go ahead and install it?
[15:47] <coz_> RA_drc,  yes
[15:48] <mokti> What web browsers allow you to navigate using only the keyboard?
[15:48] <Morphies> i;ve tried selecting all of the different locations to install, none of them do anything, as in nothing happens. So I selected continue without a bootloader and stillnothing happens,the window juststays
[15:48] <escott> mokti, links, elinks, lynx are all terminal browsers
[15:49] <ikonia> Morphies: the two issues you've described suggest there is a deeper issue with your disk system and the installer
[15:49] <RA_drc> coz_: so would just installing solve the problem?
[15:49] <coz_> RA_drc,  no a setting may have to be made in ccsm
[15:49] <coz_> RA_drc,  so when that installs,, in terminal again type    ccsm for it to open
[15:49] <mokti> escort, is there any that aren't terminal browsers?
[15:50] <escott> mokti, i would assume that firefox is keyboard navigable for a11y purposes
[15:50] <mokti> I think there is either an application you can download, or a specific browser that will highlight all links with a yellow square and a number.
[15:50] <Morphies> ikonia, Should I try installing again with only the main drive connected? or is there something else I should try? Or should I leave it alone altogether?
[15:50] <mokti> (when you press a specific key)
[15:50] <ikonia> Morphies: truthfully I don't know without understanding the issue more,
[15:51] <TechnoCat> can someone help me with this kernel panic? kernel panic not syncing out of memory and no killable processes
[15:51] <mokti>  Then you can jump to that link
[15:51] <coz_> RA_drc,  then you will see on the left,, a vertical list of the categories.. you want to click on the "General" category.. then click on  "OpenGL" to bet into its settings,, once there,  uncheck both "Lighting"  and "Sync to VBLank"  and then test if the same problem still occurs
[15:51] <sivakumar_> hi good evening to all
[15:51] <escott> TechnoCat, oom. how much ram do you have, how big is your swap
[15:51] <TechnoCat> 3gb
[15:51] <sivakumar_> can any one know how to install ns2 in ubuntu 10.04
[15:51] <TechnoCat> i can't get it to boot
[15:51] <coz_> RA_drc,  unfortunately I have to go to work so I will let the other help you with t his from this point
[15:51] <TechnoCat> i am having a hardware issue, i just don't know what yet
[15:51] <escott> TechnoCat, it is oom'ing on boot?
[15:51] <mokti> escort, do you know what I'm talking about?
[15:52] <TechnoCat> i'm trying to boot a liveusb
[15:52] <Morphies> Even the cancel the installation option does nothing :-)
[15:52] <escott> mokti, firefox has a plugin maybe that allows you to type the words of the link and type through them
[15:53] <TechnoCat> i have a part magic livecd i've been trying to do stuff with
[15:53] <escott> mokti, http://lifehacker.com/139495/hack-attack-mouse+less-firefox
[15:53] <daavis> hi!  *.mkv on vlc does not work properly. sound and video not on same time. so, any suggestions about player which play *.mkv properly
[15:53] <rawfodog> Hey Ubuntu, I'm doing my laundry and would like to have a timer to tell me when my stuff is done. Is there a program for ubuntu that works like a simple egg timer ?
[15:53] <sivakumar_> hey i have one problem that while booting into ubuntu it is showing my os name as KUBUNTU instead of ubuntu whats the reason and how to solve it
[15:53] <edbian> rawfodog: that is the at command and the sleep command
[15:53] <edbian> rawfodog: sleep 10; echo 'done!'
[15:54] <Combatjuan> Maybe a silly question.  My /var/log/messages contains the line "Aug 7 06:47:04 host-name syslogd 1.5.0#5ubuntu3: restart"  Is that syslogd indicating that the server restarted or something indicating that syslogd restarted?
[15:54] <DebianUT> greetings
[15:54] <rawfodog> cool
[15:54] <escott> rawfodog, at, cron
[15:54] <llutz> Combatjuan: syslogd restart, check with "who -b" for last system restart
[15:55] <rawfodog> 10 is like what, 10 seconds or minutes ?
[15:55] <bennym> Running an SSH server at home, friend wants to use it for tunneling. How can I limit bandwidth for his user's sessions? (Bonus points for monthly usage quotas)
[15:55] <Combatjuan> llutz: How about last restart before last?  (-8  I just restarted it.  Oops.
[15:55] <DebianUT> would any of you send me and invite to g+ please?  my email is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[15:55] <escott> rawfodog, seconds, use at for longer periods
[15:55] <edbian> rawfodog: You could make it play a sound file if you have one. sleep 10; aplay /path/to/file   I think
[15:56] <rawfodog> sweet. I just found out if I put an "m" next to the number it knows I mean MINUTES :D
[15:56] <escott> rawfodog, "at now + 10 min[enter]alert laundry[enter][ctrl-d]
[15:56] <llutz> rawfodog: sleep 10 or sleep 10m   or sleep 10h
[15:56] <rawfodog> Thanks ebian
[15:56] <edbian> rawfodog: sure
[15:57] <edbian> escott: alert laundry ?
[15:57] <escott> edbian, his original question was about the laundry. alert integrates to the desktop notifications and prints "laundry"
[15:57] <ichbinder> for anybody who might be able to help, here my problem again: I am compiling a personal project that needs boost 1.44. Current version in natty/main is 1.42. So I added LP-PPA-purplekarrot/natty from https://launchpad.net/~purplekarrot/+archive/ppa/+build/2658906 So far, so good. But the code also needs libcgal-dev. When I select that in synaptic, it says it needs libboost-dev and libboost1.42-dev. Installing this, leeds then to
[15:57] <ichbinder>  the error http://paste.ubuntu.com/670057/ I can click close and the error goes away, leaving a broken dependency. I can then also compile the code as libcgal-dev is installed... but the broken dependency is still there... :(
[15:57] <edbian> escott: mhmmm
[15:59] <Morphies> How does ubunto recognise new drives after an installation with only one drive connected? Will it have any issues if I try installing with a single drive connected, then reconnect the other after installation?
[15:59] <m_fulder> hm when I try to sendmail with telnet I get the error message: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table postfix  when trying to specify a RCPT TO:
[15:59] <m_fulder> any ideas how to solve that?
[16:00] <glebihan> ichbinder, do you need the "libboost-exception-dev" package ?
[16:00] <ichbinder> glebihan: hey, thanks for answering. I think it's something the other -dev packages depend on
[16:02] <robro> Hello, is there a way to map CTRL+ALT+RIGHT ARROW  to a gamepad button using QJoyPad?
[16:02] <llutz> m_fulder: is the recipients domain listed in $mydomain?
[16:02] <jessie> Morphies: What do you mean? If you add a new (internal) hard drive will it work? Yes. You will need to format it, but it will be accessable after.
[16:02] <llutz> err mydestination*
[16:02] <glebihan> ichbinder, are you sure about the dependencies you mentioned ? cause  libboost-dev and libboost1.42-dev are conflicting packages
[16:02] <glebihan> ichbinder, oh no soory
[16:03] <m_fulder> llutz should mydomain be in the /etc/postfix/main.cf ? I don't think I got it there
[16:03] <Morphies> Jessie: I mean leaving only my main HDD attached, and disconnecting every other HDD during installation then reconnecting post installation.
[16:03] <TechnoCat> omg, i have a linux shell. how do i format my disk and just drop all tables?
[16:03] <llutz> m_fulder:  mydestination*  not mydomain, sry
[16:03] <Morphies> which I suppose is essentially the same:-)
[16:03] <ichbinder> glebihan: when I try to remove libboost-exception-dev it also wants to remove all other -dev packages
[16:03] <glebihan> ichbinder, did you try "sudo apt-get install -f"
[16:03] <ichbinder> glebihan: on what item?
[16:03] <jessie> Morphies: Ah. Okay. Well, I am guessing you want to dual boot into Windows?
[16:04] <escott> TechnoCat, how will that help the oom?
[16:04] <glebihan> ichbinder, none, just that command
[16:04] <TechnoCat> what is oom
[16:04] <TechnoCat> oh out of memory
[16:04] <Morphies> jessie: yes
[16:04] <m_fulder> llutz, no the receptionist address is not listed there should I list everyone I will send mail to there :O
[16:04] <TechnoCat> because i'm not out of memory, it is wrong
[16:04] <ichbinder> glebihan: ok, give me a sec
[16:04] <TechnoCat> 3gb to boot up a 178mb live cd?
[16:04] <llutz> m_fulder: you have to define for what domains you accepts mails
[16:04] <escott> TechnoCat, if you want to create a new partition table just sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[16:05] <Spitfire19> Can I serve *.exe s over a samba share?
[16:05] <llutz> m_fulder: accepting all makes you an open-relay
[16:05] <escott> TechnoCat, but i'm not clear what the real goal here is. diagnosing the errors leading to the oom, or blowing everything away
[16:05] <jessie> Morphies: It should work if you do that, though you will have to do some potentially strange things with the BIOS.
[16:05] <escott> Spitfire19, most configs will refuse to execute them
[16:05] <trobrock> Is there any way to source a file by default for any runit service's run script?
[16:06] <Spitfire19> the software we are currently usings works over traditional Windows file shares
[16:06] <TechnoCat> can i display partitions with fdisk?
[16:06] <m_fulder> llutz from who I accept to get mails from? Then how is this related to who I am sending my mail to? :P
[16:06] <escott> TechnoCat, i think its p but type h for commands
[16:06] <Morphies> jessie: Sounds insteresting, I;ve attempted install already with everything connected, it failed on partitioning. tried with just the external esata drive connected, failed at bootloader installation. Currently installing withjust the main drive connected
[16:06] <llutz> m_fulder: mydestination = example.com, coolnewdomain.com, localhost.localdomain, localhost                        <- all domain-names you accept mails for (not senders)
[16:07] <TechnoCat> are there supposed to be a million partitions? =\ lol
[16:07] <TechnoCat> i didn't think that was possibly
[16:07] <TechnoCat> i have /dev/sda1 - /dev/sda60
[16:07] <m_fulder> llutz hum so if I don't have one mail in the mydestination variable I can't send mail to him :O
[16:07] <TechnoCat> all ntfs...
[16:07] <escott> TechnoCat, thats weird. you can have up to 4 primaries but a pretty much unlimited number of extendeds
[16:08] <TechnoCat> conclusion: the windows installer f'ed up my disk
[16:08] <ichbinder> glebihan: nope. fails to install or update
[16:08] <llutz> m_fulder: for outgoing, you want to look for sasl and set something like " smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated"
[16:09] <ichbinder> http://paste.ubuntu.com/670177/
[16:09] <llutz> m_fulder: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix
[16:10] <mikebeecham> hey guys....just wanted to know whether it's worth upgrading to 11.10 yet?
[16:10] <escott> mikebeecham, #unity+1
[16:10] <m_fulder> llutz will check that out :P
[16:10] <escott> mikebeecham, rather #ubuntu+1
[16:10] <Morphies> seems grub has installed OK this time round
[16:11] <glebihan> ichbinder, it looks like there are some broken packages in the repos, I'm also getting dependencies errors while trying to install libgcal-dev
[16:11] <mikebeecham> escott, thanks
[16:11] <Ramses_> hello from Lybia
[16:11] <glebihan> ichbinder, if I were you I would file a bug on libgcal-dev and see what comes out of it
[16:12] <ichbinder> glebihan: hm, ok... interesting. I thought this would definitely be a personal problem with haveing two versions of boost installed...
[16:12] <sivakumar_> Ramses_,  hello what kind of help do you want now from here
[16:13] <glebihan> ichbinder, you have 2 versions installed ?
[16:13] <Ramses_> looking for more Linux knowledge, just it
[16:13] <Neptu> hej
[16:13] <ichbinder> glebihan: well, what I mean is the conflicting installes of boost...
[16:13] <Neptu> i was wondering how can i get more than 9 workspaces??
[16:13] <TechnoCat> Is this stupid case of not being able to boot because of the 60 NTFS partitions worth noting somewhere?
[16:14] <TechnoCat> i wasn't able to boot live cd's or anything
[16:14] <Andy80> hi
[16:14] <varikonniemi> hello all
[16:14] <ichbinder> glebihan: i tried to remove all boost stuff before adding https://launchpad.net/~purplekarrot/+archive/ppa/+build/2658906 as repo, but when I try to do so, it wants to remove also very basic stuff or other stuff, e.g. libreoffice.
[16:14] <varikonniemi> how do i change the date format in ubuntu
[16:14] <glebihan> ichbinder, yes but I would think the problem rather comes from libgcal-dev than boost itself
[16:14] <varikonniemi> to custom yyyy-mm-dd
[16:15] <escott> TechnoCat, (a) are you sure thats why you couldn't boot (b) you could send something to the kernel group, I suppose they should care if a bad partition table crashes the system
[16:15] <glebihan> ichbinder, you shouldn't need to remove it, the upgrade should be enough
[16:15] <TechnoCat> escott, yes, i am positive
[16:15] <escott> varikonniemi, locale
[16:15] <TechnoCat> i was finally able to boot into a shell from initramfs or something, and used fdisk, deleted partitions, restarted, everything works
[16:15] <varikonniemi> i can only see the change for countries
[16:16] <albino_> Hi
[16:16] <varikonniemi> not to custom
[16:16] <glebihan> ichbinder, as I said, for now I would uninstall the conflicting packages and file a bug, but maybe somebody else can find a better solution
[16:16] <dianabitcoingirl> albino_: hi
[16:16] <ichbinder> glebihan: yeah, thought so too... i guess you are right, and I guess there is somewhere in cgal a dependency for boost version = 1.42 instead of >= 1.42
[16:16] <escott> TechnoCat, the thing is that says the kernel was ok with the bad partition table, but the upper user stack doesn't like it. honestly i doubt anyone expects to get to a gui when the partition table is junk
[16:16] <ichbinder> glebihan: well, can't uninstall as I need both packages to compile my stuff
[16:16] <TechnoCat> escott, i do with a live image.
[16:17] <TechnoCat> if i disconnected the hdd it would've booted
[16:17] <ichbinder> glebihan: i need boost > 1.42 and I need cgal, which wants boost 1.42... ^^ but only during installing. Then it works...
[16:17] <albino_> How can I change wiFi card driver (BCM4312) from STA to b43?
[16:17] <eightiesk> does anyone know of a distro based upon it? like with data recovery tools and what not i could use on my workstations?
[16:17] <albino_> I have both installed, but don't know how to change 'em
[16:18] <TechnoCat> eightiesk, parted magic
[16:18] <varikonniemi> whoa dianabitcoingirl you must really like bitcoin
[16:18] <TechnoCat> http://partedmagic.com/
[16:18] <graingert> varikonniemi: a lot
[16:18] <varikonniemi> but anyone, to change date foramt in ubuntu 1104 ?
[16:19] <graingert> varikonniemi: the silly girl didn't register her nick
[16:19] <varikonniemi> graingert ?
[16:19] <graingert> so I stole it
[16:19] <graingert> despite warning her el oh el
[16:19] <Myrtti> varikonniemi: date format in what context? CLI? panel?
[16:19] <varikonniemi> well, system wide.. D:
[16:20] <ichbinder> glebihan: thanks for your help and trying things... i guess i will file that bug report
[16:20] <varikonniemi> or at least the top right cornet
[16:20] <eightiesk> TechnoCat: not talking about a program but something thats basic, nothing but recovery tools, internet no messageing or email
[16:20] <varikonniemi> but.. also nautilus
[16:20] <tfdev> cant install linux on my android grrr
[16:20] <glebihan> ichbinder, you're welcome, sorry I couldn't be more helpful
[16:21] <idsme> Hi, anyone can help me ? i have a little problem with my X-FE auzentech Sound card
[16:21] <ichbinder> glebihan: no problem. Helps to know that it might be cgal's fault
[16:21] <glebihan> varikonniemi, maybe this could help : http://ccollins.wordpress.com/2009/01/06/how-to-change-date-formats-on-ubuntu/
[16:22] <idsme> Hi, anyone can help me ? i have a little problem with my X-Fi auzentech Sound card
[16:22] <Morphies> how do i alter the display settings?
[16:23] <babble> hey everyone: I'm making backup snapshots with squashfs and automatically appending a date & time string to the filename when it's done; I just realized I'm using a colon in the filename; will this do Very Many Odd Things if I copy them back to an HFS+ volume for storage, or will hfstools in Natty be smart enough to use escaped chars for me or something?
[16:23] <varikonniemi> i cannot believe it is that hard still :D
[16:23] <eightiesk> does anyone know of a distro based upon it? like with data recovery tools and what not i could use on my workstations, but without all the bloatware...
[16:24] <varikonniemi> its from 09
[16:24] <idsme> yeah
[16:24] <idsme> Try testdisk
[16:24] <idsme> Photrec
[16:24] <idsme> you can recover a whole parttion
[16:24] <eightiesk> DISTRO
[16:25] <nearst> sup
[16:25] <idsme> http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk
[16:25] <idsme> o sorry
[16:25] <glebihan> varikonniemi, well I guess not many people look for that possibility, so nobody worked on a tool to make it easier
[16:25] <idsme> al linux distro
[16:25] <idsme> backtrack,
[16:25] <escott> babble, why are you using rsync with --link-dest
[16:25] <tp43> anyone know how to use virtualbox, I see instructions for a new windows xp installation, but is it possible to use an existing wndows partition?
[16:25] <varikonniemi> ;D i mean most web forums allow the change to custom
[16:25] <idsme> backtrack
[16:25] <escott> babble, rather why are you not
[16:25] <eightiesk> not the point i know i can install and then install the programs.
[16:25] <varikonniemi> so it is not too much to askt my OS os of choice can do the same? :P
[16:26] <eightiesk> it would make my life ez if i could add them to source code how would i go abotu that
[16:26] <eightiesk> we have 10 computers here
[16:26] <babble> escott: because I'm too much of a newbie to figure out rsync :)
[16:26] <babble> hehe
[16:26] <idsme> Anyone can help me with my X-FI auzentack sound card?
[16:26] <rhin0> if a resize (installing 10.04 - resizing 11.04) is stuck at 50% (has been for 5 minutes) is it going to be a problem ... do I lose my old partition -- because this to me doesn't look good
[16:26] <nearst> babble: what u gonna do
[16:26] <rhin0> whoa hang on its moved on
[16:26] <rhin0> is ok thanks
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> idsme: wassup with it?
[16:26] <escott> babble, what you gain by using this squashfs based approach is being able to move around backups independently at the expense of cpu and disk space
[16:26] <nearst> rhin0: backup all your data 1st
[16:26] <danii3> hi guys. i just got ubuntu today and am clueless on how to use it.:-(. getting cannot find name for group id 504. how do i solve this?
[16:26] <idsme> there is no sound
[16:26] <babble> nearst: oh, likely rename these snapshots, rather than risk it
[16:27] <idsme> i try to install the drivers
[16:27] <idsme> but get some error message
[16:27] <nearst> babble: cool tho
[16:27] <babble> escott: I'm a Mac user; I'm used to working with disk umages.
[16:27] <babble> SquashFS works lik eI think
[16:27] <babble> (and I need to renice mksquashfs, apparently. hehe)
[16:28] <nearst> babble: yeah.. gudluck and gudtry
[16:28] <danii3> can anyone help me with a cannot find name for group id 504 ?
[16:28] <escott> babble, ok. if it works for you, go for it. most would probably recommend learning rsync, so if you want to try and learn that we can try to point you in the right direction. there are also guis listed in !backup
[16:28] <idsme> Action, i try to install the drivers
[16:29] <nearst> danii3: cat /etc/passwd | grep 504
[16:29] <babble> escott: yeah, I'm not averse to learning The One True and Proper Way to do things; I was more just wondering if hfstools was going to be smart enough to do the Right Thing on copy
[16:29] <neiliob1973> where can i get help with Logitech Webcam Pro 9000 on Ubuntu (looks great in Cheese and Guvcview, but awful when streaming)?
[16:29] <nearst> escott: agree, im using rsync too...
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> idsme: the CD you have, do you mean?
[16:30] <babble> if not, I'll rename all of these and twiddle my backup script to use a different naming scheme
[16:30] <idsme> no
[16:30] <idsme> not the CD :)
[16:30] <rns> anyonw know how I can install this?  I have successfully downloaded the package with wget and uncompressed it.. Now what? http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/lucid/msttcorefonts
[16:30] <idsme> the drivers one the internet page: moment, will show it
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> idsme: good, that would be silly
[16:30] <nearst> idsme: what do u mean
[16:30] <escott> babble, its not necessarily the one true and proper way, just that yours is unusual. unfortunately i don't know enough about hfstools to say
[16:30] <danii3> nearst: hi nearst. no such file or directory
[16:31] <llutz> rns: "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[16:31] <babble> escott: Mac users use disk image sfor EVERYTHING. hehe.
[16:31] <xangua> rns: or just install the mssttcorefonts package
[16:31] <babble> my backup strategy isn't unusual coming from OS X
[16:31] <glebihan> rns, why didn't you install from the repos ?
[16:31] <escott> babble, when you look at the underpinnings of time machine its pretty close to rsync
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> rns: you don't extract debs, they are packages to install
[16:31] <rns> xangua, glebihan I don't have sudo access, this is on a server.  I tried easy_install but it couldn't find the pacakge.
[16:31] <babble> escott: yeah, I was never much of a fan of TM :) hehe
[16:32] <babble> I get conceptually than rsync and TM are doing similar things
[16:32] <rns> ActionParsnip, so how do I install it?
[16:32] <nearst> danii3: try id (username)
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> rns: to install then you will need sudo access to put the files in the file system, you can run:   sudo dpkg -i filename    to install them
[16:33] <escott> babble, use what you are comfortable with
[16:33] <nearst> rns: yeah.. maybe u need to install using gdebi for dependencies resolver
[16:33] <glebihan> rns, if you're not root, you won't be able to install either from the repos or from a downloaded package
[16:34] <idsme> Action : i can't find the page so fast, but i download the driver
[16:34] <idsme> and try to install is
[16:34] <rns> glebihan, is there I can build this from source?  I am trying to install mscorefonts
[16:34] <llutz> rns: btw, why do you want those ms-ttfs on a server?
[16:34] <babble> escott: thanks; so on to plan b: what's the simplest way for me to sub colons for hyphens in this passel o files?
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> idsme: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh; chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh; ./alsa-info.sh
[16:34] <glebihan> rns, you may be able to build the package, not to install it
[16:34] <neiliob1973> :(
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> llutz: good point
[16:35] <danii3> nearst: no such user
[16:35] <escott> babble, rename
[16:35] <llutz> rns: if you really need that package, ask your admin to install it
[16:35] <escott> babble, maybe combined with find
[16:35] <idsme> Acrion
[16:35] <idsme> Action : Your ALSA information is located at http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=57748e0cd82d46ece2b6d42cf1633b3697078d35
[16:36] <babble> yeah; I wanna grep all the colons, and do... what? Heh. Sorry, I REALLY am a n00b
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> idsme: is the correct audio device set in sound preferences, you have a lot of audio output devices
[16:36] <danii3> nearst: its on a vps and just install ubuntu 6.06.
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> idsme: I also suggest disabling the onboard sound card to reduce possible devices.
[16:37] <idsme> yeah, i tried, al the devies,
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> idsme: you have an onboard intel sound chip as well as the Creative garbage you probably just installed
[16:37] <nearst> danii3: owh.. on vps :s
[16:37] <idsme> only my logitsch headset is working
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> idsme: if you unplug the headset, is it better
[16:37] <llutz> danii3: you don't want to use 6.06
[16:37] <idsme> when i switch it to X-fi
[16:38] <idsme> nothng happen
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> idsme: disable the onboard sound card and unplug the headset, may help
[16:38] <escott> babble, so rename will take a regex rename 's/:/_/' *.img, but if they are spread across directories you need to find . -iname "*.img" -exec rename 's/:/_/' {} \;
[16:38] <escott> babble, do check that the rename is working correctly because i dont know rename that well
[16:39] <rdakot> hello
[16:39] <danii3> llutz: how about centos 5? i just want to run windows programs and need a gui because i dont understand anything
[16:39] <zatan> Hi can anyone tell me how can I fix a top toolbar : http://i.imgur.com/h4hyj.png ?
[16:39] <idsme> i unplug the usb, and disable the onboard card
[16:39] <robro> Hello, does anyone know of a realistic flight simulator for Ubuntu besides flightgear?
[16:39] <llutz> danii3: " i just want to run windows programs"  so you want a windows system, not a linux
[16:40] <danii3> llutz: yes
[16:40] <Praxi> lol
[16:40] <llutz> danii3: neither centos nor ubuntu are windows
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> robro: playdeb site may have one
[16:40] <danii3> llutz: can i use wine?
[16:40] <babble> escott: thank you very much :)
[16:41] <idsme> 30:00.0 Audio device: Creative Labs X-Fi Titanium series [EMU20k2] (rev 03)
[16:41] <KM0201> danii3: if you want windows, why not install windows?
[16:41] <llutz> danii3: maybe, ask in #winehq
[16:42] <danii3> km0201: because the vps service provider didnt want to give me windows :-(
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> idsme: did you check compatibility with Ubuntu before buying the device? Creative hate Linux and refuse to support the OS
[16:42] <robro> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I already checked there
[16:42] <llutz> danii3: change to a different provider
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> danii3: what apps do you need?
[16:42] <KM0201> danii3: that would be my suggestion, get a new provider.
[16:42] <llutz> danii3: and tbh, if a vps-provider offers ubuntu-6.06, you really shouldn't pay him
[16:42] <idsme> yeah, on my last configuration it works fine, but reinstall my computer...
[16:43] <KM0201> 6.06?
[16:43] <idsme> and now, it's doesn't work anymore
[16:43] <danii3> llutz/km0201:  its free. i dont want to waste it
[16:43] <KM0201> good luck finding anything for that
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> danii3: what apps do you need?
[16:43] <MrNthDegree> 6.06 - rock solid stable, more ancient than Debian Stable
[16:43] <MrNthDegree> :p
[16:43] <KM0201> danii3: if you're using 6.06, you're gonna find very very little that works w/ that at this point.
[16:43] <danii3> actionparsnip: i need remote desktop, mozilla firefox
[16:43] <llutz> danii3: 6.06 is dated, dead, stinks. no updates, no security fixes since ages. you don't want to use that
[16:43] <MrNthDegree> 6.06 has been EOL for ages
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> danii3: firefox runs native in Ubuntu, why do you need wine for that?
[16:44] <Pici> MrNthDegree: Server support just ended on June 1st of this year.
[16:44] <babble> heh. OS X has made me lazy; I'm used to naming stuff with colons and slashes with abandon and trusting that bad chars will get HTML-escaped automatically.
[16:44] <danii3> actionparsnip: what about windows remote desktop connection?
[16:44] <idsme> root@LinuNealz:/home/idsme/apps/XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00# sudo make
[16:44] <idsme> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.38-10-generic/build M=/home/idsme/apps/XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00
[16:44] <idsme> make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.38-10-generic'
[16:44] <idsme>   CC [M]  /home/idsme/apps/XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00/xfi.o
[16:44] <idsme> /home/idsme/apps/XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00/xfi.c:14:26: fatal error: sound/driver.h: No such file or directory
[16:44] <idsme> compilation terminated.
[16:44] <FloodBot1> idsme: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:44] <idsme> make[2]: *** [/home/idsme/apps/XFiDrv_Linux_Public_US_1.00/xfi.o] Error 1
[16:45] <Omega> !paste | idsme
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> danii3: just use X forwarding, you don't need the full desktop if you just want a web browser
[16:45] <MrNthDegree> Pici, and support of the whole distro ended in 2009
[16:45] <escott> babble, im not sure that html escaping filenames is anything close to correct
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> danii3: you can use VNC over SSH and get the desktop but it will lag
[16:45] <babble> escott: OS X does on copy to hfs-old volumes.
[16:45] <escott> babble, if i want a : in my filename its because i want a : in my filename
[16:45] <MrNthDegree> Pici, server support is less than 30% of the distro methinks
[16:45] <babble> or ufs volumes or whatnot
[16:46] <Pici> MrNthDegree: The repositories were still online for everything until that date though.
[16:46] <babble> escott: I understand what you're saying, but earlier versions of HFS/HFS+ use colons for directory separators.
[16:46] <escott> babble, pre-osx sure
[16:46] <idsme> ok thanx
[16:46] <babble> escott: which is why MacOS Old would complain if you named them as such
[16:46] <danii3> actionparsnip: i feel very insecure without any gui, will want to use vnc, oh i forgot. i need to run vmware and some .exe on it
[16:47] <escott> babble, does it still complain these days?
[16:47] <babble> escott: no, because it HTML-entitizes things like forward slashes or colons for you, depending on the filesystem you're writing to
[16:48] <mongy> danii3, xnest/ssh is a decent remote desktop solution, google up on it
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> danii3: vnc has the VIC so you don't need GUI for that either
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> danii3: running a desktop on a server makes it less secure, use more resources and take longer to boot
[16:48] <escott> babble, so it would complain. weird
[16:48] <babble> escott: back in OS 9 and earlier, sure.
[16:49] <babble> escott: bearing in mind, the internals of OS 9 were essentially not very different from System 6/7 in 1986.
[16:49] <rsr> hello, I have ubuntu server installed and I am logged in via ssh. I would like to extract the /etc/network/interfaces file from the server and save it locally. Is there a guide for me to follow to accomplish this?
[16:50] <escott> babble, i've never used macs, just dont see the appeal. in any case didn't know that restriction was present
[16:50] <mongy> rsr, scp user@host:/etc/network/interfaces .
[16:50] <babble> 'complain' is the wrong word, maybe. it would barf a dialog at you telling you colons were Bad To Use and rename it with a hyphen
[16:50] <Pici> rsr: mongy's command should be run from your local computer, so exit ssh.
[16:50] <babble> then OS X just twiddled it behind the scenes as needed and you named crap whatever you wanted to in the GUI
[16:50] <mongy> rsr, ugh, yeah what ^pici said
[16:52] <danii3> mongy/actionparsnip: thanks. will find out more now. rather overwhelmed
[16:52] <idsme> Action : http://paste.ubuntu.com/670205/plain/
[16:52] <satatanux> Hi everyone!
[16:53] <satatanux> Please, I need help whit my ubuntu installation...
[16:53] <kleech> how safe is it to do a apt-get upgrade on a server?
[16:53] <KM0201> satatanux: just ask, if we can help, we will.
[16:53] <sivakumar_> hi how to xtract rar files in ubuntu
[16:54] <rsr> OK! thanks guys!!!
[16:54] <KM0201> !rar | sivakumar_
[16:54] <sivakumar_> please help me its troubling me aloy
[16:54] <KM0201> sivakumar_: read the link..
[16:55] <remi_> hello everybody
[16:55] <idsme> ActionParsnip,
[16:55] <rsr> it returned this:
[16:55] <glebihan> !unrar | sivakumar_
[16:55] <rsr> usage: scp [-1246BCEpqrv] [-c cipher] [-F ssh_config] [-i identity_file]
[16:55] <rsr>            [-l limit] [-o ssh_option] [-P port] [-S program]
[16:55] <rsr>            [[user@]host1:]file1 ... [[user@]host2:]file2
[16:56] <rsr> am I missing a command?
[16:56] <jodlajodla> hello! it will heroes of newerth work with my Gigabyte GT 430?
[16:56] <sivakumar_> glebihan, what is !unrar
[16:56] <glebihan> sivakumar_, read what ubottu told you
[16:56] <KM0201> sivakumar_: it's a tool to unrar files... why don;t you read the links.. thats why we've posted them.
[16:57] <satatanux> Thanks!  I've a relative old computer (with a MSI KT6V-LSR Motherboard). The live CD boot and works fine, I install Ubuntu 11.40, all ok, then finish install and restart and then... the keyboard and mouse dont work... are USB mouse and kb, they are conected directly (not over usb hub), so i try anther linux distribution... Linux mint, and in this distro dont work mouse and keyboard even in live cd... what can i do?
[16:58] <llutz> rsr: at local machine: "scp  user@server:/etc/network/interfaces ."
[16:58] <sivakumar_> KM0201, sorry my internet is very slow thats y i asked you sorry for disturbance
[16:58] <KM0201> sivakumar_: you were given the link twice.. but.. ok
[16:58] <rsr> llutz: I did that from a mac os box... I hate mac os but it's what this client has :/
[16:58] <KM0201> satatanux: have you tried PS2 adapters?
[16:59] <satatanux> no, i dont have it
[16:59] <satatanux> BTW: I try installing a virtual machine on Windows XP and pass the same... the mouse and KB dont work
[17:02] <KM0201> satatanux: have you checked the BIOS?.. to see if "usb legacy support".. is enabled?  I know on one of my PC's (also an old msi).. if i dn't have that, the usb keyboard/mouse don't work
[17:02] <KM0201> i forget exactly where it is in the BIOS, but it's in there somewhere
[17:02] <satatanux> Yes, i have USB legacy support enabled, if I disable it tthe mouse and keyboard dont work anymore even on windows
[17:03] <jodlajodla> bo delov HoN na Gigabyte NV GT430?
[17:03] <KM0201> hmm
[17:03] <KM0201> satatanux: dunno, sounds like ps2 adapters might be your only way to go.
[17:05] <satatanux> let my try something, i will wrote the MB settingm, because they are 2 about USB and ill come back... thanks a Lot! see you in a minute
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> jodlajodla: don't see why not :)
[17:05] <jodlajodla> ActionParsnip: are u playing HoN?
[17:05] <ranjan> Hi all is anyone here aware of the psmouse.c error related to the touchpads of new latptops
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> jodlajodla: I don't play any games
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> jodlajodla: you have an nvidia chip and its not too shabby so it should be fine, there is a native linux client for it so I'd say go for it.
[17:06] <jodlajodla> ActionParsnip: Okay, tyvm :)
[17:07] <amaliaa> hi
[17:08] <amaliaa> i got trouble getting work my wireless adaptater
[17:08] <amaliaa> WUSB54G
[17:08] <amaliaa> i'm gonna commit suicide i can't get it work
[17:08] <ActionParsnip> amaliaa: use one line please, easier to read
[17:09] <pkuk> so I finally got around to installing 11.04
[17:09] <om26er> !test
[17:09] <amaliaa> i tried everything
[17:09] <usr13> amaliaa: What does lspci say about it?  Paste the line here.
[17:09] <amaliaa> ActionParsnip : this is what i do
[17:09] <usr13> just the one line
[17:09] <pkuk> the new interface is so painful!
[17:09] <KM0201> usr13: well, it's usb.. so probably not much.. :)
[17:09] <usr13> o
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> pkuk: log of and log in to Ubuntu Classic
[17:09] <llutz> !classic| pkuk
[17:09] <amaliaa> lspci recognizes my usb linksys cisco
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> pkuk: Unity 2d willreplace classic in Oneiric
[17:10] <pkuk> ActionParsnip: yeah, I did this, but then compiz is all messed up!
[17:10] <amaliaa> i installed driver with ndiswrapper
[17:10] <usr13> amaliaa: Show us.
[17:10] <amaliaa> but still nothing
[17:10] <amaliaa> there isn't any wlan*
[17:10] <amaliaa> on network manager
[17:11] <usr13> amaliaa: How does lspci identify it?
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> pkuk: classic doesn't use compiz, it uses metacity (as far as I know). You could always use a different desktop
[17:11] <amaliaa> the most funny part is that it worked with an older version
[17:11] <amaliaa> with exactly same procedure
[17:11] <geo_> quit
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> amaliaa: is it USB based or PCI based?
[17:11] <amaliaa> USB.
[17:11] <glebihan> ActionParsnip, classic can also use compiz depending the settings (I don't which is the default)
[17:11] <amaliaa> ubuntu isn't launched right now
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> amaliaa: ok run:  lsusb     what is the line which identifies the device?
[17:12] <amaliaa> i can't do any command
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> glebihan: true enough
[17:12] <usr13> amaliaa: Come back when you can get on the system again.
[17:12] <amaliaa> i posted some command on an ubuntu forum
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> amaliaa: you can, press CTRL+ALT+T
[17:12] <pkuk> ActionParsnip: I will look into that... aside from this interface Ubuntu continues to impress, and I've been hopping distros for 10+ years :)
[17:12] <usr13> amaliaa: Plug into wired internet and show us what you have.
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> pkuk: I use LXDE, it's pretty much not changed
[17:13] <pkuk> ActionParsnip: nice, will try
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> pkuk: same, started on Mandrake 7 here :)
[17:13] <usr13> amaliaa: Is it a laptop or desktop computer?
[17:14] <amaliaa> a desktop
[17:14] <amaliaa> computer
[17:14] <usr13> ok
[17:14] <blognewb> hi everyone im trying to install ubuntu in my sister's computer, i want to know the system requirements for ubuntu 11 but can't find it help
[17:14] <pkuk> ActionParsnip: I started in uni when my windows 98 machine crashed and a buddy gave me red hat!  I forget what version now sadly
[17:14] <amaliaa> i must ask it
[17:14] <amaliaa> why this regression
[17:14] <usr13> blognewb: What process or and how much memory does it have?
[17:15] <blognewb> usr13 piii :(
[17:15] <KM0201> amaliaa: what regression?
[17:15] <usr13> blognewb: How much memory?
[17:15] <pkuk> ActionParsnip: actually landed me a few jobs in school because I had the experience.  Added economic benefit of opensource
[17:15] <amaliaa> KM0201 : capacity of ubutu for autodetecting wireless hardware and setting up
[17:15] <glebihan> !requirements | blognewb
[17:15] <amaliaa> ubuntu*
[17:15] <KM0201> amaliaa: it usually does.. my usb wireless devices all wrk when i plug them in.
[17:16] <KM0201> amaliaa: it just depends ont he device really.
[17:16] <amaliaa> maybe mine is older
[17:16] <amaliaa> so they dropped support
[17:16] <KM0201> amaliaa: unlikely, the wusb45, is pretty common.
[17:16] <blognewb> oh sorry
[17:16] <blognewb> usr13 Intel Pentium 4 1.8GHz / 256MB SDRAM / 40GB HDD
[17:17] <usr13> blognewb: Very low memory.  I recommend 3 or 4 times as much RAM.
[17:17] <amaliaa> can i drop here iwconfig ?
[17:17] <KM0201> amaliaa: pastebin it
[17:17] <KM0201> !pastebin | amaliaa
[17:17] <amaliaa> 2 lines
[17:17] <KM0201> so..?
[17:17] <blognewb> usr13 so i guess i can't install ubuntu?
[17:17] <mongy> blognewb, try lubuntu
[17:17] <usr13> blognewb: The processor is fine, but you need to do RAM upgrade.  512 is minimum IMO, 1G is very good.
[17:18] <amaliaa> http://pastebin.com/fjNUhhjx
[17:18] <cereal_> is there a program that shows your total data usage for each session, im getting a new smart phone and i wanted to use it for tethering
[17:18] <usr13> blognewb: Oh you can install it, but for good prefomance, I would put some more RAM in it.
[17:18] <amaliaa> lsmod : http://pastebin.com/Ct0ukPc5
[17:18] <KM0201> amaliaa: all that shows is its not working.
[17:19] <blognewb> mongy will lubuntu be enjoyable for a 15year old?
[17:19] <mongy> blognewb, not sure, I havent been a 15 yr old for 23 yrs :)
[17:20] <amaliaa> someone adive me that i should install rutilt
[17:20] <amaliaa> advice*
[17:20] <usr13> blognewb: As you are advised above, xubuntu or Lubuntu will be better for the limited resources you have now, but if you do a memory upgrade, the standard Desktop edition will work too.  It's your choice.
[17:21] <blognewb> thanks guys, my other question is, the computer is currently partitioned with edubuntu + XP in it, how do i do a clean slate to install Lubuntu
[17:21] <amaliaa> there is in ubutu depot however since i don't get network connectivity it's over
[17:21] <oly562> hi, i need some help with /sbin
[17:21] <usr13> blognewb: You mean you just want to use the whole drive?
[17:21] <blognewb> how much is a 256 MB ram these days
[17:22] <lolmatic> lawl
[17:22] <blognewb> usr13 yeah well i wanna clean everything before i install this
[17:22] <usr13> blognewb: Pretty cheap.  You can get 512MB pretty cheap nowdays.
[17:22] <oly562> when i lock the screen in gnome desktop, i am not able to log back in.
[17:22] <blognewb> usr13 what is cheap to you?
[17:22] <lolmatic> 8 gb ddr3-1333 cost €28
[17:22] <usr13> blognewb: The installer will do that for you.  Just run the install and it will wipe the whole drive if you want.
[17:22] <amaliaa> 28 what
[17:22] <oly562> i have to goto single user mode, killall gnome-screensaver
[17:22] <dddbmt_> Hi guys, I need your help! I have another computer with ubuntu installed, when I power it on I can only get to the login screen. After that I get "Could not update ICEauthority file /home/dddbmt/.ICEauthority".
[17:23] <oly562> then im allowed to log back in with ctn-f7
[17:23] <jodlajodla> is HoN safe game, so i can't get any malware on something like that on my ubuntu?
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> blognewb: boot to the install media, format the Edubuntu partition(s) and install Lubuntu. Be sure to backup the data you need
[17:23] <blognewb> lolmatic oh cool. How do i know how much i can upgrade this computer? it's a refurb with no specs barebones
[17:23] <lolmatic> blognewb: well i dont know what hardware u have
[17:23] <oly562> i chmod/chown'd perms in /sbin, im positive, so i need to know what perms people have in /sbin
[17:23] <oly562> can someone pastebin me ls -al /sbin
[17:23] <akashaa> Hi, I've edited my .profile file, but seemingly it's never run. Is there some other file in natty to add basic things like `export WORKON_HOME=...
[17:23] <blognewb> ActionParsnip format? wait how? terminaL? will it tell me how
[17:23] <usr13> blognewb: http://shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=DDR2+512&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=
[17:23] <dddbmt_> I click "Close" and get another message "There is a problem with the configuration server. (/usr/lib/libconf2-4/gconf-sanity-check-2 exited with status 256".
[17:23] <lolmatic> JodaZ: hon is a real game with lots of customers, i think it should be safe to install.
[17:23] <oly562> so i can compare
[17:24] <oly562> i really dont feel like reinstalling...
[17:24] <dddbmt_> I click close and get "Nautilus could not create the following required folder: /home/dddbmt/Desktop, /home/dddbmt/.nautilus".
[17:24] <blognewb> lolmatic i guess my question is upon which is it dependent? the motherboard? so i have to know which motherboard it is?
[17:25] <lolmatic> blognewb: what processor do you have?
[17:25] <alex--> My netbook is using it's SWAP, but there's enough RAM (not all ram is being used). In the netbook is a slowly SSD, which makes the netbook unusable when it's using it's swap (almost all of the time). Is there any way to fix this?
[17:25] <escott> dddbmt, sounds like the permissions on the home directory are wrong !paste the output of ls -ld /home and ls -l /home
[17:25] <jodlajodla> is HoN safe game, so i can't get any malware on something like that on my ubuntu?
[17:25] <lolmatic> jodlajodla: hon is a real game with lots of customers, i think it should be safe to install.
[17:26] <blognewb> oh it's a ThinkCentre NetVista Intel Pentium 4
[17:26] <blognewb> @ lolmatic
[17:26] <escott> alex--, you can adjust the swapiness parameter in /sys or just disable the swap
[17:26] <usr13> blognewb: Find the model# on the mother borad and do a search.  But you can safely assume it will take 512M or 1G modules.
[17:26] <blognewb> ThinkCentre NetVista Intel Pentium 4 1.8GHz / 256MB SDRAM / 40GB HDD / CD-ROM / AGP Video Card / 10/100Mbps LAN / Windows 2000 / Off-Lease Refurbished Desktop PC
[17:26] <lolmatic> blognewb: i recommend buying a new machine. pentium 4 is really very outdated.
[17:26] <jodlajodla> lolmatic: thanks for reply! :)
[17:26] <dddbmt_> escott, how do I do that when I can't login/get to my terminal.
[17:26] <escott> alex--, sorry its in /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
[17:26] <blognewb> lolmatic $
[17:26] <amaliaa> what should i do now ?, what command are worth posting
[17:26] <escott> dddbmt, ctrl-alt-f1
[17:27] <lolmatic> blognewb: if you dont wanna buy a new one i would recommend buying 512 mb of ram for it.
[17:27] <blognewb> k
[17:28] <ghoul> hi all, is there an easy way to connect vnc to an EXISTING x session ? i'd like to remote-help a pc downstairs every now and then without running stairs all the time
[17:29] <escott> ghoul, you have to export DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY locations thats all that is required
[17:29] <Barco> Hi Guys, can anyone assist with Internet setup on Edubuntu, I've setup the gateway but am running an LTSP setup. Have all the settings and my internet is up all other computers but I seem to be missing something on my Edubuntu server  - ifconfig output here http://pastebin.com/abPbqLXu
[17:29] <ghoul> and how do i do that exactly ?
[17:30] <ghoul> i do have ssh to the machine downstairs
[17:30] <escott> ghoul, well DISPLAY is most like ":0" if you use gdm your xauth location is in /var/lib/gdm/something-auth-username-something/something (not using gdm so i cant say off hand)
[17:31] <usr13> blognewb: I don't have anything that slow, but almost.  I have a machine here that is only 2GHz, (AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2400+), and it runs nicely on 10.04 LTS.  (But it has 1G RAM).
[17:31] <Kingsy> I found out what my stupid kworker thread is doing
[17:31] <usr13> blognewb: cpu MHz: 1994.357
[17:31] <blognewb> usr13 i also have one like that but at the moment it's giving me ntfs corrupt messages, i dunno how to recover the files without formatting it
[17:32] <mfilipe> is there any solution of gnome-sensors-applet to 11.10? is there to project hamster too?
[17:32] <ghoul> dir /var/lib/gdm/*auth*     returns empty result, no idea what i'd be searching for
[17:32] <usr13> blognewb: You definately need to recover the files ASAP.
[17:32] <escott> ghoul, just ls /var/lib/gdm i think its in there
[17:32] <dr3mro> is there a pre configured or optimized linux kernels that some can download and install
[17:32] <blognewb> wow look at this http://www.ebay.com/itm/4GB-8-X-512MBMEMORY-DDR2-533MHZ-PC2-4200-NON-ECC-240P-/150647280184?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2313471238#ht_1007wt_954
[17:33] <blognewb> usr13 asap?
[17:33] <usr13> blognewb: Probably looking at imminite hard drive failure
[17:33] <usr13> asap = as soon as possible
[17:33] <blognewb> lol yeah im not that stupid
[17:33] <blognewb> thanks
[17:34] <ghoul> there's an empty Seat1/ dir and :  .cache/ .dbus/ .gconf/ .gconf.defaults/ .gconf.path .local/ .pulse-cookie .config/ .esd_auth .gconfd/ .gconf.mandatory/ .ICEauthority .pulse/ Seat1/
[17:34] <g0th> hi
[17:34] <g0th> I would like to install mplayer 1.0git instead of the standard ubuntu one
[17:34] <g0th> but a lot of libraries require the version to be bigger than "..."
[17:34] <escott> ghoul, try Seat1
[17:34] <g0th> how can I tell them to accept the version 1.0git?
[17:35] <blognewb> 2 laptops, one shitty vista dell laptop, one old p3 384 ram xp toshiba
[17:35] <dddbmt_> escott, ls -ld: drwxr-xr-x root is owner and group
[17:35] <blognewb> the toshiba is pretty fast tbh
[17:35] <g0th> I tried pinning giving it a priority 1001
[17:35] <g0th> but it didn't help
[17:36] <oly562> hi, i need some help with /sbin when i lock the screen in gnome desktop, i am not able to log back in. i have to goto single user mode, killall gnome-screensaver then im allowed to log back in with ctn-f7 i chmod/chown'd perms in /sbin, im positive, so i need to know what perms people have in /sbin can someone pastebin me ls -al /sbin so i can compare i really dont feel like reinstalling...
[17:36] <Roasted> I am constantly getting search3.comcast web pages coming up when I'm on my Ubuntu partition. what gives?
[17:36] <dddbmt_> escott, ls -l: drwx----- dddbmt is owner and group
[17:36] <n2i> blognewb: "tbh" = ?
[17:36] <escott> dddbmt, thats looks alright
[17:36] <ghoul> escott, it's just an empty dir, but i'll give it a try, thanks for the help =)
[17:36] <bluezone_> How do i open an .epub file?
[17:36] <Roasted> do I need to flush dns or something?
[17:36] <Roasted> Ive NEVER had this issue
[17:36] <g0th> Is it because 1.0git is before 1.0~...?
[17:36] <blognewb> n2i tbh = to be honest
[17:36] <escott> dddbmt, what about some of the folders it complained about like ~/Desktop
[17:36] <g0th> alphabetically?
[17:37] <n2i> blognewb: oh, thanks!
[17:37] <oly562> how can i turn off software updates after doing an update, where the kernel sources keep asking me to update, for which i do not want to yet...?
[17:37] <blognewb> is this factual "Ubuntu 11.4 is more bloated than even vista , its more slow and performance is ridiculous!"
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: do you mean in the browser in Ubuntu?
[17:38] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, yes.
[17:38] <escott> ghoul, someone in channel running gdm can just echo $XAUTHORITY and tell you exactly where it is
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> blognewb: I'd say not
[17:38] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, no other pc in the house has an issue but this one
[17:38] <oly562> i come from redhat update and there was a config file that i could specify NOT to include kernel* updates?
[17:38] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, if I open about 400 tabs, eventually 1 will work.
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: does it happen as all users and in all browser?
[17:38] <oly562> how can i turn off software updates after doing an update, where the kernel sources keep asking me to update, for which i do not want to yet...? i come from redhat update and there was a config file that i could specify NOT to include kernel* updates?
[17:38] <blognewb> "Ubuntu 11.4 is a failed experiment. You're also an asshole for making assumptions so quickly. Downgrade to 10.10. It's much faster.
[17:38] <blognewb> Vista is also a failed experiment btw."
[17:38] <dddbmt_> escott, ls -l for Desktop "drwxr-xr-x".  The machine worked perfectly untill my latest restart.
[17:38] <g0th> anyone?
[17:38] <oly562> lots of questions today :)
[17:38] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, I'm the only user on this pc. and yes, it happens only in the browser, however, randomly
[17:38] <escott> dddbmt, is home on its own partition?
[17:38] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, is there a flush dns or smoething with ubuntu?
[17:38] <cfedde> blognewb: that's flame bait.
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: thought to make a fresh user, to test....
[17:38] <oCean> blognewb: this is not a discussion channel, you can try #ubuntu-offtopic for such
[17:39] <oly562> hi, i need some help with /sbin when i lock the screen in gnome desktop, i am not able to log back in. i have to goto single user mode, killall gnome-screensaver then im allowed to log back in with ctn-f7 i chmod/chown'd perms in /sbin, im positive, so i need to know what perms people have in /sbin can someone pastebin me ls -al /sbin so i can compare i really dont feel like reinstalling...
[17:39] <dimas_> !topic
[17:39] <dddbmt_> escott, no. one partition.
[17:39] <blognewb>  lolmatic should i choose 10 then instead of 11?
[17:39] <bluezone_> How do i open an .epub file? Calibe fails to do so, and so does the document viewer
[17:39] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, well, maybe I could. but I'd kind of like to know what the problem is vs recreating a profile
[17:39] <BluesKaj> g0th, read up on the git commands in order to install using the git repos
[17:39] <bluezone_> calibre*
[17:39] <blognewb> i was aboutt o download 11
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> blognewb: why not use it and form your own opinion, don't let anyone tell you how to think
[17:39] <escott> dddbmt_, what happens when you "touch ~/test_file.txt"
[17:39] <grzegorz> ok
[17:39] <cfedde> blognewb: use the most recent one or the LTS.
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Roasted: if it happens as the fresh user then its the system, if its ok then it is your settings
[17:39] <blognewb> ActionParsnip im asking from the expert you so would you suggest 10 instead of 11
[17:39] <usr13> g0th: Why not just install mplayer and see what you get, (see if it does what you want / need)?
[17:39] <oly562> blognewb: did you load it lately? has it changed much due to the complaints? i agree with you, from what i have heard, but havent tried 11.x yet.
[17:40] <Roasted> ActionParsnip, right, but I'd rather have a more pinpointed idea.
[17:40] <blognewb> ActionParsnip speed wise
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> blognewb: I'd suggest Natty (11.04)
[17:40] <usr13> g0th: Actually, I think it's smplayer
[17:40] <g0th> usr13: I want to but it doesnt work because some packages break it
[17:40] <Ubuntu_Gigi_Fore> ciao
[17:40] <Ubuntu_Gigi_Fore> \list
[17:40] <dddbmt_> escott, Permission denied.
[17:40] <blognewb> ActionParsnip in terms of speed?
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> blognewb: not seen any slowness personally
[17:40] <blognewb> ok
[17:40] <g0th> BluesKaj: I already compild the package, what do you mean?
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> blognewb: I use LXDE on all my systems so sidestep a lot of the gnome stuff
[17:40] <usr13> g0th: What packages break it?
[17:40] <g0th> libavformat52
[17:40] <escott> dddbmt, whoami
[17:40] <g0th> e.g.
[17:40] <g0th> it requires version 1.0~... something
[17:41] <cfedde> blognewb: my 11.04 vm performs well enough that I typicaly ignore the windows 7 host it is running on.
[17:41] <g0th> which comes after 1.0git alphabetically unfortunately
[17:41] <dddbmt_> escott, dddbmt
[17:41] <BluesKaj> usr he wants ti onstall git mplayer version which supposedly has more options and bugs fixes
[17:41] <BluesKaj> install
[17:41] <escott> dddbmt_, is the partition mounted read-only?
[17:41] <g0th> actually it is mplayer2 but nevermind
[17:41] <dddbmt_> escott, how do I test that?
[17:41] <g0th> the issue is with this version number
[17:42] <escott> dddbmt, `moun`
[17:42] <escott> dddbmt, `mount`
[17:42] <dddbmt_> escott, with plings?
[17:42] <usr13> g0th: Sorry, I just don't know, would have to know what 1.0~... something is.  All I know is that mplayer works ok on my system.
[17:42] <escott> dddbmt, without
[17:43] <bluesfreak72> How come every time I try to do an upgrade to natty that includes a kernel upgrade, the upgrade fails and this is what happens when I try to fix it:  http://pastebin.com/mSN9YyXn ???
[17:43] <g0th> usr13: I want to install mplayer2 git, I ask how to do this
[17:43] <de>
[17:43] <g0th> usr13: the problem is that the version name is lower than the one of the mplayer in the ubuntu repository, so it complains
[17:44] <g0th> is there a proper way to circumwent that?
[17:44] <StevenR> bluesfreak72: looks like the archive is corrupt?
[17:44] <dddbmt_> escott, what do you want to see?
[17:44] <g0th> a "hack" would be to change the version in mplayer2  git to be higher than the ubuntu version but that's ugly
[17:44] <dddbmt_> (Cant copy paste, since I'm writing from another machine) escott
[17:44] <bluesfreak72> @ StevenR - Is there anything I can do on my end to fix the archive?
[17:44] <escott> dddbmt_, just the mount options for the relevant partition you dont have a /home so /
[17:45] <mbeierl> Natty: I've got System->Preferences->Power Management Display: Put display to sleep when inactive for 0:10, but the monitors never turn off.  How does one set the power save on the monitors to make them turn off when not in use?
[17:45] <ghoul> escott,   x11vnc -nopw -display :0  via ssh on the remote machine, and then gtkvncviewer  on my machine did the trick =)
[17:45] <StevenR> bluesfreak72: I'd look at clearing the downloaded archive so apt downloads it again... there's apt-get clean or something
[17:45] <usr13> bluesfreak72: Looks like there was a problem with the file.
[17:46] <usr13> bluesfreak72: linux-image-2.6.38-11-generic_2.6.38-11.48_i386.deb
[17:46] <escott> ghoul, i guess you had xhost set so that xauthority wasnt required
[17:46] <bluesfreak72> usr13: I know that file is the issue.
[17:46] <ghoul> didn't have to set any env vars, and display was the one via  commandline
[17:46] <rww> g0th: increment the epoch number in the version string?
[17:46] <dddbmt_> escott, /dev/sda1 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro,commit=0) ?
[17:46] <BLAZE1> FIGURE OUT THAT problem?
[17:47] <usr13> bluesfreak72: sudo apt-get clean
[17:47] <escott> dddbmt_, we must be missing something but im not sure what. the permissions i've seen look ok
[17:47] <g0th> oh the "2:" ?
[17:47] <rww> g0th: ( http://people.canonical.com/~cjwatson/ubuntu-policy/policy.html/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Version has the details if you don't know what an epoch number is)
[17:47] <rww> g0th: yeah
[17:47] <g0th> rwww: I never understood that
[17:47] <g0th> thx
[17:48] <bluesfreak72> Looks like sudo apt-get clean did the trick.
[17:48] <usr13> Thanks to StevenR :)
[17:49] <g0th> rww: this is supposed to be change in the git repo?
[17:49] <dddbmt_> escott, it stopped working after I turned of "Ask for password on login". Don't know if that has anything to do with it, though.
[17:49] <escott> dddbmt_, did you enable encrypted home
[17:49] <rww> g0th: you'd change it in the package you're making from mplayer git, yes.
[17:50] <dddbmt_> escott, No I didn't. It might have been enabled before that though - I don't remember.
[17:50] <escott> dddbmt_, because you cannot have encrypted home and autologin
[17:50] <escott> dddbmt_, in mount does it say anything about ecryptfs
[17:50] <dddbmt_> escott, is there a way to turn off autologin command line?
[17:50] <dddbmt_> escott, yes it does. Want me to paste?
[17:51] <g0th> rww: ok, so I tell them to update that accordingly?
[17:51] <g0th> rww: do you know where the version is specified?
[17:51] <StevenR> bluesfreak72: hurrah :)
[17:51] <escott> dddbmt_, no need. you have to disable autologin
[17:51] <rww> g0th: in the package control file at debian/control
[17:51] <dddbmt_> escott, do you know how I do that command line?
[17:52] <escott> dddbmt_, autologin creates a file in /etc/gdm/ or something i cant remember where
[17:52] <g0th> rww: ok thanks
[17:52] <bluesfreak72> Thanks, StevenR and usr13.!!!
[17:52] <escott> dddbmt_, ask the channel what file you need to remove to disable autologin
[17:52] <escott> alternately you should be able to login now, and you may then be able to remove the file (because you are logged in on the terminal)
[17:54] <dddbmt_> Hi #ubuntu. Which file should be deleted in order to disable autologin?
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> dddbmt_: you don't delete a file, you just edit a file
[17:54] <JoyoS> Hello
[17:54] <oly562> how can i turn off software updates after doing an update, where the kernel sources keep asking me to update, for which i do not want to yet...? i come from redhat update and there was a config file that i could specify NOT to include kernel* updates?
[17:54] <oly562> hi, i need some help with /sbin when i lock the screen in gnome desktop, i am not able to log back in. i have to goto single user mode, killall gnome-screensaver then im allowed to log back in with ctn-f7 i chmod/chown'd perms in /sbin, im positive, so i need to know what perms people have in /sbin can someone pastebin me ls -al /sbin so i can compare i really dont feel like reinstalling...
[17:54] <oly562> thats 2 questions
[17:54] <dddbmt_> ActopmParsnip, could you tell me more about it? Or maybe a link to a guide?
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> dddbmt_: use tab to complete nicks ;)
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> dddbmt_: /etc/gdm/gdm.conf.
[17:56] <dddbmt_> ActionParsnip, thanks for the tip ;) I only see custom.conf and gdm.schemas (among other files)
[17:56] <escott> dddbmt_, custom.conf
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> dddbmt_: are you using Ubuntu or are you using KUbuntu?
[17:56] <dddbmt_> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu.
[17:57] <escott> dddbmt_, nuke custom.conf (you can cat it and see exactly what it does)
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> dddbmt_: http://maxolasersquad.blogspot.com/2009/07/how-to-setup-auto-login-in-ubuntu-at.html
[17:57] <SeCuRe_> I need help here.I am trying to get my smartphone into recovery mode on ubuntu. Anyone help?
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> SeCuRe_: do you mean access it in Ubuntu recovery mode?
[17:58] <dddbmt_> ActionParsnip, AutomaticLoginEnable=false, AutomaticLogin=. That is the _current_ settings.
[17:58] <SeCuRe_> No. I am trying to work with SUDO
[17:58] <dddbmt_> escott, nuke as in delete?
[17:58] <SeCuRe_> here is prodecure http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Last_Resort_Emergency_BootLoader_Recovery#OMAP_boot_Procedure
[17:59] <escott> dddbmt_, yes delete it, although if it has auto login disabled right now...
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> SeCuRe_: If you add your user to the admin group it will get sudo access
[17:59] <SeCuRe_> I just downloaded the TAR file and linux drivers but when i type sudo omap3_usbload boot.bin it returns with command not found
[17:59] <escott> SeCuRe_, full path to binaries outside of $PATH
[18:00] <SeCuRe_> ActionParsnip : How do I gonna add my name to admin group?
[18:00] <dddbmt_> ActionParsnip, you agree that I should try to delete custom.conf ?
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> SeCuRe_: in the root recovery mode is one way, what does omap3_usbload boot.bin do?
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> dddbmt_: not sure, never really messed with that stuff
[18:01] <dddbmt_> ActionParsnip, I'll let you know what happens then ;)
[18:01] <SeCuRe_> escott: I just installed the ubuntu and very new to it. How do i know the path?
[18:01] <SeCuRe_> sudo ls is not working also. DIR commands also...
[18:01] <escott> dddbmt_, look at the contents of it. they should be fairly safe to remove
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> SeCuRe_: does this help: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Last_Resort_Emergency_BootLoader_Recovery
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> dddbmt_: you can always move the file instead, if it's bad you can always move it back
[18:02] <escott> SeCuRe_, echo $PATH (but root has a different $PATH). in any case you have to have the path as /home/username/Downloads/whatever/omap_blah.bin
[18:02] <dddbmt_> ActionParsnip, too late ;) but thanks for the tip!
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> dddbmt_: moving and renaming is always better, it allows you to roll back
[18:02] <hack27> how i do update the bios
[18:02] <SeCuRe_> ActionParsnip: OMAP3..bin makes the phone to get into recovery mode from USB.
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> hack27: what make and model system?
[18:03] <escott> hack27, specific to the manufacturer and generally done through windows
[18:03] <dddbmt_> ActionParsnip, yeah - I see your point :)
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> SeCuRe_: the guide may help, it has some command and such
[18:03] <tab1293> anyone know where i can find the realtek drivers for the RTL8188CE chipset for kernel 3.0?
[18:03] <SeCuRe_> so do you want me to get in Ubuntu recovery mode and try sudo command again?
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> tab1293: oneiric support is in #ubuntu+1
[18:04] <SeCuRe_> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu does not accept the commands. Example sudo omap3.bin
[18:04] <SeCuRe_> it says command not found
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> hack27: some dell BIOSs can be updated in Ubuntu
[18:04] <escott> SeCuRe_, because it is not in the path. full path required
[18:05] <escott> SeCuRe_, it doesn't know where to look for this omap3.bin you have to tell it where /home/me/Download/omap3.bin or ./omap3.bin (if your terminal pwd is where the file is)
[18:05] <dddbmt_> escott, ActionParsnip, the thing is that nautilus is complaining that it can't create /home/dddbmt/Desktop - but it allready exists.
[18:05] <oly562> where does apt-get store its APT:: config files from Perl?
[18:05] <dddbmt_> same with .nautilus
[18:06] <escott> dddbmt_, no its because when it tries to auto-login your ecryptfs mount isn't up and running
[18:06] <martin_tsc> my db backup is making any access to my site inaccessible, how to I change the nice list to -10 for mysqld and apache2
[18:06] <escott> dddbmt_, you can't do autologin and encrypted home. the login is what decrypts the home
[18:06] <megaloman> Hello all. I am still getting used to narwhal and unity. One problem I have is that whenever usb devices are connected to my machine, booting hangs. I assume this is a boot device preference thing, anyone know where to fix it?
[18:06] <SeCuRe_> escott: Now the file is in the desktop. I will try sudo omap3_usbload boot.bin /home/user/desktop right?
[18:06] <escott> SeCuRe_, "Desktop" but yes
[18:07] <dddbmt_> escott, okay I see. But since the custom.conf didn't do anything - do you have anymore suggestions?
[18:07] <ActionParsnip> dddbmt_: is it owned by your user?
[18:07] <escott> dddbmt_, did you reboot or sudo service gdm restart after removing custom.conf
[18:08] <dddbmt_> escott, "reboot now".
[18:08] <dddbmt_> ActionParsnip, ls -l for /home says that my user is owner and group.
[18:08] <escott> dddbmt_, give it a try. hopefully it brings up the login screen
[18:09] <r2dx0f> Good morning from Thailand!
[18:09] <dddbmt_> escott, Give what a try? I get to the login screen fine - but when I click my account it just log in, instead of asking for password.
[18:10] <escott> dddbmt_, thats no good. the password is required to unwrap the ecryptfs key. if you aren't being asked for the password you won't be able to access your files
[18:10] <hack27> i dont have a dell
[18:10] <oly562> can someone pastebin me -   ls -al /sbin
[18:10] <oly562> i hosed up some perms
[18:10] <dddbmt_> ActionParsnip, escott - "ls -ld" for /home says root is user and group ?
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> oly562: http://paste.ubuntu.com/670271/
[18:11] <dddbmt_> escott, yeah I've realized that. But how to get it to prompt me for passsword?
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> oly562: why are you messing with it anyway?
[18:11] <ActionParsnip> cd
[18:12] <escott> dddbmt_, /home is 755 root:root /home/me 755 me:me (but 700 is also ok for /home/me but not /home)
[18:12] <oly562> thanks ActionParsnip
[18:12] <oly562> oh i made a script, and ran it in /sbin rather in dir i wanted too... lol
[18:12] <nuno_nunes> !pt
[18:13] <oly562> i had ln -s the script from there, but i ran it while in /sbin lol
[18:13] <SeCuRe_> escott: I came with no success. When type sudo ls i see the omap file under user(cnyt) directory but when type sudo omap3_usbload boot.bin /home/cnyt i still get command not found
[18:14] <escott> SeCuRe_, sudo /home/cnyt/omap3_usbload
[18:14] <dddbmt_> escott, "ls -l /home" says drwx ---- ---- me:me. "ls -ld /home" says drwx --xr ---x root:root
[18:15] <enzo_> bonsoir
[18:15] <escott> dddbmt, ie /home/me is 700 me:me and /home is 755 root:root so it perms are ok
[18:15] <SeCuRe_> escott : no success again :/
[18:15] <enzo_> je voudrais savoir comment ca fonctionne!
[18:15] <enzo_> svp
[18:16] <SeCuRe_> I see the file when type sudo ls
[18:16] <hack27> any diagnotic
[18:16] <hack27> tool
[18:16] <oly562> i figured it was that file... unix_chkpwd, it was group'd shadow and -s'd
[18:16] <rww> !fr | enzo_
[18:17] <escott> oly562, no shadow would be correct
[18:18] <escott> oly562, you should be very careful with what you are doing, especially if shadow group doesn't make you immediately think of /etc/shadow
[18:18] <llutz> dddbmt_: really "ls -ld /home" says drwx --xr ---x root:root" ?? it has to be 755, "drwxr-xr-x root:root"
[18:18] <enzo_> please where can i have thaenc IRC?e ubuntu fr
[18:18] <rww> enzo_: type /join #ubuntu-fr
[18:19] <enzo_> please where can i have the ubuntu french IRC
[18:19] <MaximumResults> Hi everyone
[18:19] <dddbmt_> llutz, it is - I missed the "r".
[18:19] <llutz> dddbmt_: ok
[18:20] <enzo_> how can i do to join ubuntu in french?
[18:20] <enzo_> begineer
[18:20] <enzo_> help!
[18:20] <llutz> enzo_: type "/join #ubuntu-fr"
[18:20] <bindi_> enzo_: the same way you joined here, but instead of #ubuntu, make it #ubuntu-fr ...
[18:20] <dddbmt_> llutz, you have no suggestions for my problem? I have turned ON autologin with encrypted /home. Removing /etc/gdm/custom.conf didn't disable it.
[18:21] <llutz> dddbmt_: no sorry
[18:21] <escott> dddbmt_, llutz makes a good point is it. those permissions don't look correct it should be rwxr-xr-x for /home
[18:21] <enzo_> ok! thank you
[18:21] <escott> dddbmt_, the key is it MUST ask you for your password
[18:21] <MaximumResults> I have a question.   Is there any way to automatically start a graphical login on tty8, tty9, ...   when someone presses ctrl-alt-F8 or crl-alt-f9.
[18:22] <dddbmt_> escott, it's "drwxr". I know, but just don't know how to make it ask me for password.
[18:22] <paulo> preciso de ajuda, tanto o ubuntu 10.04 quanto o 11.04 encherga a rede sem fio mas não se conecta
[18:23] <escott> MaximumResults, modify /etc/init/gdm.conf to start on 8 and 9
[18:23] <oly562> escott: i know, im saying my script changed chmod/chown'd stuff in /sbin ;) almost done fixing the login issue
[18:23] <SeCuRe_> escott : http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/cucuman/Screenshot.png
[18:23] <rww> !pt | paulo
[18:23] <escott> SeCuRe_, thats really hard for me to read just !paste it
[18:24] <paulo> ok
[18:24] <escott> !paste | SeCuRe_
[18:24] <oly562> what chmod switch do i use to get this perm    -rwxr-sr-x
[18:24] <SeCuRe_> I cant copy because it on a different machine
[18:24] <SeCuRe_> just click on it and will resize
[18:25] <oly562> chmod o+ ?
[18:25] <escott> oly562, 755 g+s
[18:25] <oly562> ah thanks
[18:25] <SeCuRe_> no it wont :/
[18:25] <oly562> group
[18:25] <rww> oly562: technically, chmod u=rwx,g=rs,o=rx filename
[18:25] <oly562> escott: so 755 will be done first, then the g+s is applied, correct?
[18:25] <oly562> rww: thanks
[18:26] <oly562> with commas?
[18:26] <rww> oly562: yes
[18:26] <oly562> tanks ;)
[18:26] <escott> SeCuRe_, there is no bin file in that bolder. there is a .c file you need to compile first
[18:26] <escott> oly562, yes... i dont know how to do g+s along with the 755
[18:26] <SeCuRe_> i got it!
[18:27] <oly562> wait.... rww
[18:27] <oly562> the s is -S not -s
[18:27] <oly562> and the file is now in terminal yellow color
[18:27] <escott> oly562, good
[18:27] <oly562> is there a diff between -s and -S
[18:27] <tsimpson> oly562: chmod 2755 file
[18:27] <Wabbott9> I've been having a problem with file open/save dialog boxes
[18:27] <escott> oly562, it might be the 755 instead of 745?
[18:28] <oly562> tsimpson: ill try, brb
[18:28] <gstnet> Hello *ubuntu people
[18:28] <escott> oly562, mine is not a capital S its lower case. im not sure what g+s with g-x means exactly
[18:28] <oly562> that worked tsimpson
[18:28] <oly562> thanks
[18:28] <rww> oly562: oh, right, yes. you'd do g=rxs to do it my way :)
[18:28]  * rww forgot the x
[18:29] <oly562> escott: then do not tell people to do a cmd on a system file unless you know!
[18:29] <gstnet> need some small help with bash... cannot make this work ,,, for i in {1..$VAR};do .... any ideas how to fix it ? When I use actual number instead of $VAR it works
[18:29] <oly562> k rww, ill try your again for shyts and giggles
[18:29] <oly562> then put it back
[18:30] <daavis> hi! i have problems with internet. after a while (40min) my network losts and it happens regulary. then i click on network icon, reconnect to wifi and it's ok then. there is no problem with provider couse internet works great on other laptop
[18:30] <oly562> yep that works too rww
[18:30] <rww> oly562: what tsimpson said is the octal representation of what I said :)
[18:30] <oly562> yep that fixed my log in issue. finally... lol
[18:31] <oly562> been a week, just been killing gnome-screensavor in ctrl-f2
[18:31] <oly562> then switching back
[18:31] <oly562> to ctr-f7
[18:31] <od3yz> hellow
[18:31] <oly562> next question:   how can i turn off software updates after doing an update, where the kernel sources keep asking me to update, for which i do not want to yet...? i come from redhat update and there was a config file that i could specify NOT to include kernel* updates?
[18:31] <Wabbott9> when I open a file dialog box it doesn't actually show, just displays whatever was in the background rather than the dialog box and I have to log out to get anywhere
[18:32] <oly562> i already have my update set to not install/download whatever, but i did do a mild upgrade, without kernels,,, it keeps popping up, how to make it stop
[18:32] <Zorin> I need help with Zorin. It's Lubuntu based. My installation is super slow even though a day ago it was working fine.
[18:32] <oly562> where is the update-manager conf file?
[18:32] <daavis> hi! i have problems with internet. after a while (40min) my network losts and it happens regulary. then i click on network icon, reconnect to wifi and it's ok then. there is no problem with provider couse internet works great on other laptop
[18:33] <rww> Zorin: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu and supported derivatives only. "Zorin" isn't a supported derivative.
[18:33] <SeCuRe_> brb
[18:33] <SeCuRe_> thanks escott!
[18:33] <MaximumResults> gstnet,  have you tried for (( i=1; i<=var; i++ )); do ... ; done
[18:33] <Zorin> How do I get help if Zorin OS has no irc channel?
[18:33] <oly562> whats zorin? sounds like something outta the movie "Big" with tom hanks
[18:33] <martin_tsc> what command runs the mysql requests
[18:33] <oly562> oh wait that was zoltar
[18:34] <rww> Zorin: No idea. Go look on the website you got it from, and consider things like this when choosing a derivative.
[18:34] <oly562> whats a derivative rww?
[18:34] <Zorin> Okay.
[18:34] <Wabbott9> when I open a file dialog box it doesn't actually show, just displays whatever was in the background rather than the dialog box and I have to log out to get anywhere
[18:34] <rww> oly562: a distribution based on another distribution. e.g. Ubuntu is a derivative of Debian.
[18:34] <oly562> ah ic
[18:34] <oly562> flavor?
[18:35] <h00k> oly562: also known as that, yes
[18:35] <oly562> i like mint chocolate chip :)
[18:35] <nearst> sup
[18:36] <oly562> kinda like redhat and fedora, ic, interesting term this derivative
[18:36] <Wabbott9> Guess nobody knows
[18:36] <oly562> Wabbott9: ?
[18:37] <oly562> so where can i find the config file for update-manager for my issue
[18:37] <Wabbott9> when I open a file dialog box it doesn't actually show, just displays whatever was in the background rather than the dialog box and I have to log out to get anywhere
[18:37] <oly562> Wabbott9: huh?
[18:37] <Wabbott9> I've been having a problem with dialog boxes
[18:37] <oly562> Wabbott9: not following, sorta, explain a bit more? what kinda dialog box?
[18:38] <oly562> properties dialog boxes??
[18:38] <Wabbott9> File open or save boxes. When they open, they don't actually show
[18:38] <oly562> wow lol.. what was that!
[18:38] <h00k> !netsplit
[18:38] <nearst> cool
[18:38] <nearst> never know that split
[18:38] <oly562> i guess so
[18:39] <oly562> is that some pharana process for irc?
[18:40] <rww> oly562: I don't know what "pharana" means, but netsplits are caused by the IRC servers having trouble talking to each other
[18:40] <oly562> rww: kinda like an LVS process for traffic control or failover...
[18:40] <oly562> parhania the fish spelled,i never can spell that word
[18:41] <oly562> rww: kinda like a virtual router process based on response/get/ack from defined alias IP that two servers require to prevent failover,,,
[18:42] <oly562> opps prompt failover
[18:42] <remsSs03> hello everibodi
[18:42] <oly562> most webserver farms have some appliance or failover process, or some function to push data to next available service provided
[18:42] <h00k> oly562: if you want to ask, you can check in #freenode. Ops don't respond/prompt for failover, the servers handle the disconnection.
[18:43] <rww> oly562: no, it's entirely unrelated to that
[18:43] <oly562> so its an internal service mechanism not related to routing, ie netsplit, i wonder why they chose the term Net to be included....
[18:43] <mutante> i want to find out which package installs the file "mail.ini" (PHP5) /etc/php5/cli/conf.d/mail.ini . But could not find anything with either dlocate or apt-file. Is that really something that must have been created manually?
[18:44] <qurio> I need to install a few packages on another computer with Ubuntu, Where are the downloaded packages saved? So that I can copy them over to the other computer and install them.
[18:44] <rww> oly562: go ask #freenode
[18:44] <oly562> rww: :|
[18:44] <oly562> sheshh
[18:44] <oly562> h00k: i never said ops anything
[18:44] <llutz> mutante: grep -ri mail.ini /var/lib/dpkg/info/*
[18:44] <oly562> although i did notice it was the ops who parted
[18:44] <Shvelo> qurio: use aptoncd
[18:45] <pedahzur> Anyone else having trouble with the proposed linux-firmware 1.52.1? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-firmware/+bug/829696
[18:45] <mutante> llutz: thanks, but also no result there
[18:45] <daavis> hi! i have problems with internet. after a while (40min) my network losts and it happens regulary. then i click on network icon, reconnect to wifi and it's ok then. there is no problem with provider couse internet works great on other laptop
[18:46] <dddbmt_> Does anybody know how to Enable "Ask for password" from the command line? I've mistakenly enabled autologin while having encrypted home folder - which result in I can not login properly.
[18:46] <oly562> thats exactly why i DO NOT like upgrading my kernel and sources just becuz it says to in update-manager,,,, it breaks things,,, anything header* kernel* linux* i usually wait till the bugs are cleared up before doing those.... so i ask,, how can i turn it off! 5x time now
[18:46] <oly562> where is the friggin update-manager conf file if there is one
[18:46] <oly562> you guys seem to know it all,,, where is it?
[18:47] <rww> !attitude | oly562
[18:47] <oly562> shut up
[18:47] <oly562> im just talking
[18:47] <rww> oly562: read the channel guidelines ubottu just linked you to before returning.
[18:48] <Wabbott9> I've been having a problem similar to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1801280 but not involving flash
[18:50] <staar2> quit
[18:50] <daavis> hi! i have problems with internet. after a while (40min) my network losts and it happens regulary. then i click on network icon, reconnect to wifi and it's ok then. there is no problem with provider couse internet works great on other laptop
[18:50] <megaloman> If i'm having problems booting only when usb devices are attached, can I fix this with grub? Is it likely irq interrupts hanging the kernel boot?
[18:52] <Jordan_U> megaloman: What happens when you try to boot without USB devices attached?
[18:55] <craigbass1976> I want to run an app that requires Windows AND java.  Do I need a jre running in wine, or will wine see my already installed jre?
[18:56] <escott> craigbass1976, probably need a jre running in wine
[18:56] <Jordan_U> craigbass1976: You will need to install the windows jre in wine.
[18:56] <Grav> What is a good torrent client for Ubuntu?
[18:56] <Jordan_U> craigbass1976: What are you actually trying to run?
[18:56] <CrusaderAD> Grav: Transmission
[18:56] <h00k> craigbass1976: also, #winehq may be of help for that
[18:57] <megaloman> Jordan_U: booting without usb devices attached is a breeze. No problems.
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> Grav: transmission is in the default install
[18:57] <h00k> !appdb | craigbass1976 see if it's listed in the appdb
[18:57] <manu__> hi
[18:57] <oly562> .
[18:57] <Travis-42> On 11.04, the latest kernel update is stuck while applying... and the cancel button is greyed out. what do I do?
[18:58] <craigbass1976> escott, Jordan_U I figured.  Stupid...  I'm trying to ditch my windows box at work, and the last piece of the puzzle is a kitchen design program.  I don't want to bother with the one we currently use, and an alternative was written in Java.  I tried running the mac version a few months ago, to no avail, now I'm thinking of the windows version with wine
[18:58] <megaloman> I just don't want to unplug wireless mouse and keyboard every time I boot.
[18:58] <Jordan_U> megaloman: Ok, what happens when you try to boot with USB devices?
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> Travis-42: applying what?
[18:58] <oly562> so where can i find the config file for update-manager? anyone?
[18:58] <megaloman> Jordan_U: black screen. Hangs there indefinitely.
[18:58] <Travis-42> ActionParsnip, while configuring linux-image-2.6.38-11-generic
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> megaloman: add in /etc/rc.local  a command to unload the module(s), then reload straight after. May help
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> Travis-42: can you pastebin the text please
[18:59] <Jordan_U> craigbass1976: It's a java app, what happens when you try to run it from a linux JRE?
[18:59] <h00k> oly562: what are you trying to configure with update-manager?
[18:59] <Jordan_U> megaloman: Do you see any messages before the blank screen?
[18:59] <oly562> ActionParsnip: do you now how to stop update-manager from bothering me about update-mananger pop ups?
[18:59] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[18:59] <oly562> h00k: that right there
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> oly562: remove the startup itemand it should go
[19:00] <oly562> i know in redhat i could uncomment so to speak kernel* with up2date, i wonder if the same option or similar
[19:00] <oly562> ActionParsnip: itemand?
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> oly562: I don't know what that means
[19:00] <megaloman> Jordan_U: I just see an underscore cursor top right blinking until even that goes away. I'm pretty new and figure dmesg might be a way to get more info, but don't know what to look for.
[19:01] <rww> oly562: "item and". ActionParsnip missed a space.
[19:01] <oly562> ActionParsnip: its not i dont want want update-manager to stop, but rather stop updating kernel/headers/linux*
[19:01] <oly562> oh lol
[19:01] <oly562> got it
[19:01] <megaloman> ActionParsnip: I don't know which modules you mean. I'm pretty green.
[19:01] <Jordan_U> megaloman: Is this before or after grub loads? Does this happen when the connected USB devices are not hard drives?
[19:01] <Travis-42> ActionParsnip, The details box from the update manager doesnt appear to be copy pastable, so here's a screenshot.... http://oi54.tinypic.com/2hgg35x.jpg
[19:01] <h00k> oly562: in the update manager, click the 'settings' button, and then the 'Updates' tab
[19:02] <oly562> k
[19:02] <oly562> sb..
[19:02] <megaloman> Jordan_U: definitely happens when the connected devices aren't hard drives. Tested that.
[19:02] <oly562> yep h00k
[19:02] <oly562> and..
[19:02] <megaloman> Jordan_U: I don't know whether grub loaded or not. What would give me a clue?
[19:02] <Jordan_U> megaloman: If you hold shift during boot do you see the grub menu (with USB devices connected)?
[19:03] <Grav> CrusaderAD: Thanks. I will use transmission
[19:03] <h00k> oly562: perhaps try not having it check for updates automatically
[19:03] <oly562> release upgrades NEVER?
[19:03] <h00k> oly562: alternatively, install the updates
[19:03] <oly562> h00k: thats been done already.. it still nags me about kernel
[19:03] <megaloman> I will have to try that. I should probably login here with my other computer.
[19:03] <oly562> NO
[19:03] <oly562> your not getting my question....
[19:03] <oly562> ActionParsnip: any other suggestions?
[19:04] <CrusaderAD> Grav: no problem, it's a great program
[19:04] <h00k> oly562: Please settle. I'm only trying to help.
[19:04] <oly562> to tune kernels to NOT be updated or checked...is that the NEVER selection in Software Sources?
[19:04] <bodhi_zazen> anyone here with any experience with avahi ?
[19:04] <bodhi_zazen> I can never seem to get ping hostname.local working properly
[19:04] <oly562> h00k: please try understanding my question first, reread it, and if you have worked with redhat or up2date in the past, you will know what i am asking, no offense
[19:05] <oly562> i wont repast, i will be breaking rules in #ubuntu
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> oly562: you can pin the kernel version and it won't be updated
[19:05] <oly562> ActionParsnip: whats pin?
[19:05] <slacker_nl> oly562: man etc_preferences :)
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> megaloman: lsmod     will list the modules, you can read and see what each does to see which to use
[19:06] <oly562> ok, let me try it this way,,, like i stated long ago.... sorry, maybe you missed it...
[19:06] <megaloman> Jordan_U: I'm logged in on my other computer as TrickyDick now.
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> Travis-42: not sure man, is there a bug reported
[19:06] <Pici> !pinning | oly562
[19:06] <oly562> i recently updated all my packages that needed updating.... with Update Manager gui
[19:06] <megaloman> Jordan_U: rebooting now.
[19:06] <oly562> Pici: @@ ahhhh thats what im looking for!
[19:06] <oly562> zackly
[19:06] <oly562> thanks....
[19:06] <oly562> let me see if it is what i need,,, brb
[19:07] <Pici> oly562: look at the 'holding' part
[19:07] <oly562> earlier i asked about APT:: config file locations....  :|
[19:07] <oly562> Pici:  k thanks
[19:07] <Travis-42> ActionParsnip, I don't know, I guess I'll check... but any idea what do to make sure everything isn't screwed up? I figure that the greyed out cancel button means that I'm not supposed to just kill the process and restart
[19:08] <oly562> /etc/apt/preferences, cool, it has priority numbering, nifty.
[19:09] <oly562> Pici:  that will work, thanks, also, is there a cmd line version of synaptic i can modify if im headless?
[19:09] <h00k> oly562: aptitude
[19:09] <usr13> oly562: apt-get
[19:10] <Pici> oly562: The instructions there include a method for holding using dpkg --set-selections
[19:10] <oly562> ok, last question, in Software Sources gui, what does Release Upgrade - show new distributions releases related too,,, if i select NEVER, will that not show the UPGRADE in update manager unsubdued?
[19:10] <daavis> hi! i have problems with internet. after a while (40min) my network losts and it happens regulary. then i click on network icon, reconnect to wifi and it's ok then. there is no problem with provider couse internet works great on other laptop
[19:10] <oly562> Pici: oh, col. thanks
[19:10] <oly562> awesome
[19:10] <oly562> see, i knew someone had the answer
[19:10] <oly562> thanks, thats all for today, l8
[19:11] <usr13> oly562: It stops looking for updates  No more updates.
[19:11] <jiffe> anyone know an app that can spider a url and recursively generate a list of urls within that website ?
[19:11] <Dr_Willis> daavis:  so  you have 2 laptops connecting to a router, then that to the internet>?
[19:12] <daavis> yea, Dr_Willis
[19:12] <nearst> which bonding is good...
[19:12] <rohdef> can anyone explain the rationale of preferring apt-get over aptitude?
[19:12] <rww> rohdef: there isn't one.
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> rohdef: ive never really seen much need for aptitude over apt-get either. :)
[19:13] <Dr_Willis> someone will occanisally mention handleds depends better, or other reasons..
[19:13] <rohdef> Dr_Willis, apart from automatically removing old packages, which creates a less bloated system
[19:13] <usr13> daavis: Does it happen when it hibernates?
[19:13] <rww> rohdef: both apt-get and aptitude can do that
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> i was thinking that in recent years the 2 have basically gotten identical feature sets.
[19:14] <Jordan_U> rohdef: apt-get is installed by default and aptitude isn't (for space reasons).
[19:14] <rohdef> rww, true, but in apt-get you need to invoke extra commands
[19:14] <TrickyDick> Jordan_U: It isn't a problem with non-Sata devices unless I try to boot to SATA, that fails, and I shut off and try again with other devices. No grub menu when there is a problem.
[19:14] <rohdef> also aptitude has a ncurses ui per default
[19:14] <systemclient> whenever I connect via SSH to a machine in my local network (DHCP) it always offends the key list since the IPs change. Can I somehow change this for my local network?
[19:15] <rohdef> that's my reasons for aptitude, but I've been wondering if there was some good reasons that I shouldn't use aptitude too
[19:15] <h00k> systemclient: you could reserve the same IPs for machines on your network
[19:15] <usr13> rohdef: They both do the same thing basically.
[19:15] <daavis> usr13, hibernate ? what this word means
[19:15] <systemclient> h00k: I do not want to static-IP my little VM zoo …
[19:15] <Jordan_U> TrickyDick: It sounds like a simple problem that you have a drive somewhere that contains a broken bootloader, and somtimes your BIOS is booting from that drive.
[19:15] <usr13> rohdef: I don't think it hurts anything.
[19:15] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | TrickyDick
[19:15] <rohdef> usr13, basically true :) but when nearly every example on the net you see is based on apt-get you start to wonder :)
[19:16] <h00k> systemclient: you wouldn't have to statically IP it, you could just set reservations on whatever is serving your DHCP
[19:16] <systemclient> h00k: I do not understand. how does that work=
[19:16] <h00k> rohdef: beacuse ubuntu has apt-get, rather than aptitude by default, probably.
[19:17] <Laputa>  hi, anyone knows where's the manual of theme.lua of awesome ?   i cant find anything about theme.lua on this manual                                            │ aupo
[19:17] <rohdef> but well if it's just at matter of preference I'll just stick to aptitude
[19:17] <systemclient> rohdef: but people argue that aptitude is better than apt-get
[19:17] <usr13> daavis: http://truejournals.com/2009/10/13/suspend-vs-hibernate/
[19:17] <systemclient> rohdef: I like aptitude too
[19:17] <TrickyDick> Jordan_U: Thanks.
[19:17] <systemclient> rohdef: especially since you can browse through the packages
[19:17] <h00k> systemclient: You set a 'reservation' on your DHCP server, leave your client computers set to DHCP.  When they broadcast and look for an IP (DHCP), the DHCP server will always respond to them with the same IP, so it's like being set statically, but the machines still use DHCP.
[19:17] <Laputa> hi, anyone knows where's the manual of theme.lua of awesome ?   i cant find anything about theme.lua on this manual  http://awesome.naquadah.org/doc/api/index.html
[19:17] <usr13> rohdef: apt-get is the prefered method.
[19:17] <h00k> systemclient: it's done on the DHCP server by MAC address
[19:18] <systemclient> h00k: okay, that makes sense. Is there some way to tell SSH I do not want that security feature?
[19:18] <Jordan_U> TrickyDick: You're welcome. If you pastebin the RESULTS.txt I can confirm or scratch my hypothesis.
[19:18] <usr13> rohdef: I don't use aptitude, I only use apt-get    I recommend apt-get
[19:18] <rohdef> systemclient, I think I'll prefer to say it's matter of taste then
[19:18] <systemclient> usr13: how come?
[19:18] <llutz> systemclient: you want to use "StrictHostKeyChecking = ask" in ssh_config
[19:18] <rww> rohdef: correct
[19:18] <h00k> systemclient: what llutz said ;)
[19:18] <Laputa> anyone use awesome ? need help on theme.lua
[19:19] <systemclient> rohdef: same with git vs. bazaar and vim vs. emacs :)
[19:19] <systemclient> llutz: I'll check it out
[19:20] <rohdef> systemclient, heh yeah tools can create stupid flamewars, but people some times have good reasons too :)
[19:20] <usr13> systemclient: Partly because of what rohdef pointed out, it is most widely used, most others use it, most how-to's use it, it is simplier to only use apt-get and not alternete between the two, there are a number of reasons.
[19:20] <systemclient> rohdef: for starters I think that git/bzr is way better svn, but that is just me
[19:21] <systemclient> usr13: hmm, once you know both, I guess you can use aptitude without a problem
[19:21] <rohdef> systemclient, agreed
[19:21] <Guest1676> quit
[19:21] <Laputa> anyone use awesome ? need help on theme.lua
[19:21] <craigbass1976> Jordan_U, it didn't run back when I tried the mac version a few months ago; I think it's still making calls to OS specific stuff.
[19:22] <h00k> Laputa: A quick search shows they have a channel on another network for support.
[19:22] <h00k> Laputa: http://awesome.naquadah.org/community/
[19:23] <systemclient> Host 192.168.0.*   StrictHostKeyChecking no
[19:24] <usr13> systemclient: I used to use aptitude too.  I just don't find any need for it anymore.  It is easier simplier to keep the how-to's relating to apt-get and not going back and forth between aptitude and apt-get as it just adds a layer of undue complication / confusion to new users when one says apt-get and another says aptitude.
[19:24] <systemclient> usr13: true, others argue that aptitude seems more unified that apt-{cache,get} and so on. But I agree with you.
[19:26] <megaloman> Jordan_U: Here is the result of that bootinfo script. http://pastebin.com/WNE0FVML
[19:26] <Laputa> h00k: thanks , im gonna check that
[19:27] <amh345> is there a way to set ubuntu so it shows the grub loader?  i dont see it when i boot.  i just get post screens and then gnome loading
[19:27] <llutz> systemclient: you'd maybe add a "UserKnownHostsFile /dev/null"  for that ip-range too
[19:28] <llutz> systemclient: "CheckHostIP no" also could be handy
[19:28] <systemclient> llutz: thanks!
[19:28] <DrArcheh> why would screen keep resizing my terminal to a certain size when i attach? it does not seem to save the last size or adjust to the current size
[19:29] <systemclient> llutz: hostip no seems like the perfect thing
[19:30] <llutz> systemclient: lots of options, pick the best for your situation :)
[19:30] <Flannel> DrArcheh: see the -A option
[19:31] <widewake> hello, my browser speed recently becoming very slow, takes awhile to load even simple pages, any solutions? im using ubuntu 10.10
[19:31] <systemclient> llutz: the checkhostip is the perfect one, so it still checks the key, but not the IP -- what I wanted :)
[19:31] <Ubuntu4numb> hi
[19:32] <Ubuntu4numb> i think here is empty
[19:32] <systemclient> widewake: look into the system monitor to see whether your CPU doen't do other things
[19:32] <jemparin1> 3
[19:32] <systemclient> widewake: and if your network is used like it should do
[19:33] <widewake> systemclient, cpu looks fine, 4-6 for mozilla
[19:33] <systemclient> widewake: what about network, do you get the usage you would expect from your connection when you surf?
[19:34] <widewake> systemclient,  54 mbs,
[19:35] <nikitis> Hey, i got a new WD My Book Harddrive.  and I mounted the drive and can browse it, but i cannot copy anything to it.  Get permission denied.  It's formated ext4 and mounted rw.
[19:35] <systemclient> widewake: that sounds like your WiFi
[19:35] <tb> ##islam
[19:35] <systemclient> widewake: I meant that if you surf the web, that you get some 300 kB/s or so?
[19:36] <systemclient> tb: what's up with that?
[19:36] <systemclient> nikitis: what user is the drive mounted with? can you write with a sudo?
[19:37] <nikitis> systemclient: i can use sudo
[19:37] <nikitis> systemclient: oh let me see if i can write
[19:37] <widewake> systemclient,  its up and down, though looks efficient atm
[19:37] <systemclient> nikitis: it might be a simple rights question
[19:37] <nikitis> systemclient: yeah it's letting me as sudo.
[19:37] <systemclient> widewake: I am just asking, maybe it is your WiFi or your internet connection that is slow
[19:37] <nikitis> systemclient: how can i make it work as user?
[19:37] <DasEi> nikitis: chown the mountdir to regular user
[19:38] <nikitis> DasEi: did that
[19:38] <nikitis> DasEi: when I mount it though it gets reowned by root
[19:38] <DasEi> nikitis: sudo chown -R $USER /your/MountDir
[19:38] <systemclient> nikitis: I heard of a way to ignore the rights on external drives
[19:38] <widewake> systemclient, kk, not sure what it is but i dont think its the wifi
[19:39] <nikitis> it's weird cause it only does it on this drive.  I have another drive that mouts fine
[19:39] <systemclient> widewake: does it work with another browser?
[19:39] <DasEi> nikitis: and oc lookup correct dir by mount
[19:39] <Boitata> hi
[19:40] <widewake> systemclient, nope, slow as well
[19:40] <Boitata> hi, i very like cigar of hemp, and you?
[19:40] <widewake> systemclient, it will get stuck randomly, one second it loads a page quickly, next its taking forever. its only recently its became a problem
[19:40] <systemclient> widewake: okay, so it is not browser issue … do you have tried it on another computer
[19:41] <Boitata> You like hemp's cigar?
[19:41] <systemclient> widewake: sounds like when I am at the edge of my wireless …
[19:41] <megaloman> Jordan_U: Still here... I got two errors from the file, [19:41] <megaloman> sdc
[19:41] <megaloman> [19:41] <megaloman> unlzma: Decoder error
[19:41] <widewake> systemclient, there are other people using the same wifi, theyve yet to complain so.. i think its jjust me
[19:41] <systemclient> Boitata: we like dicussions
[19:41] <Boitata> hi
[19:41] <Boitata> hi!
[19:41] <systemclient> Boitata: hi -- what do you want?
[19:41] <usr13> Boitata: You said that already.  Do you have any Ubuntu questions?
[19:42] <DasEi> !ot | Boitata
[19:42] <usr13> widewake: ifconfig   #Look at signal strength.
[19:42] <usr13> widewake: iwconfig   #Look at signal strength.
[19:42] <usr13> Sorry first one was typo
[19:43] <claus[> hi
[19:43] <DasEi> nikitis: chowning worked ?
[19:43] <feathersanddown> how to reboot services on ubuntu ?
[19:43] <usr13> feathersanddown: service
[19:43] <DasEi> feathersanddown: sudo service stop/start/restart
[19:44] <feathersanddown> where service is service name ?
[19:44] <usr13> feathersanddown: sudo service <service-name> restart
[19:44] <DasEi> feathersanddown: some might be still /etc/init.d/sta../stop/restart
[19:44] <feathersanddown> ok thanks =)
[19:44] <widewake> systemclient, Link Quality=63/70  Signal level=-47 dBm
[19:44] <Boitata> Tem algum corno na porra desta sala ai?
[19:45] <usr13> feathersanddown: man service   #For more info.
[19:45] <konam> Boitata this is an english channel
[19:45] <widewake> systemclient, Link Quality=63/70  Signal level=-47 dBm        ,  Frequency:2.437 GHz,  Bit Rate=54 Mb/s   Tx-Power=15 dBm
[19:45] <konam> Boitata entra a #ubuntu-br
[19:45] <feathersanddown> and wich service name have apache server ?
[19:46] <morn___> ~
[19:46] <Escherial> urgh, that dead space issue at the bottom of the screen makes using eclipse very difficult :\ autocomplete dialogs always end up half-displayed in there if i'm editing near the bottom of the screen
[19:46] <phillipsjk> I just tried the Ubuntu Live CD in a new computer because I wanted to see what hardware is detected. All I get is a dumbed-down interface with no CLU access. searching for "bash" or sh" with dash reveals nothing. Nevermind: searching for "terminal" worked.
[19:47] <systemclient> feathersanddown: apache2 I guess
[19:47] <systemclient> feathersanddown: or httpd
[19:47] <systemclient> widewake: that does not tel me much, honestly
[19:48] <DasEi> phillipsjk: verified cd's integrity on another box least ?
[19:48] <Boitata> you like smoke hemp's cigar
[19:48] <widewake> systemclient, heh k
[19:49] <widewake> systemclient, well thx for trying. going to trouble shoot later, its driving me bonkers!
[19:49] <feathersanddown> with sudo apache2 -k graceful i get: apache2: bad user name ${APACHE_RUN_USER} , but with sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 graceful i get to reload config again
[19:49] <feathersanddown> rare
[19:49] <usr13> widewake: Link Quality can go down to a certain point, (it varies, low 60's usually), and you have degraded performance - anything above that point is good, anything below is in the mud, (poor performance).
[19:49] <systemclient> widewake: you can try to hook up with LAN, that might help narrowing it down
[19:49] <phillipsjk> DasEi: I think the difference is that the new machine have Intel integrated video so a compositing window manager is turned on.
[19:50] <SeCuRe_> Hey! I am trying to run a SUDO command but i always came with `command not found`. can someone help?
[19:50] <SeCuRe_> here is the snapshot http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/cucuman/Screenshot-1.png
[19:50] <DasEi> phillipsjk: or a bad burn or unity striking, easiest to verify cd on another box , and also try a lubuntu or such
[19:51] <sandy__> hj
[19:51] <DasEi> !md5sum
[19:51] <usr13> SeCuRe_: sudo  (not SUDO)
[19:51] <Pernig> SeCuRe_ is your script "omap_usbload" marked as executable?
[19:51] <B4ckBOne> Whats the best way to sync two ubuntu machines, complete home dir and everything?
[19:51] <phillipsjk> DasEi: I have used the CD on another box.
[19:51] <Boitata> I want smoke on cigar in hemp
[19:51] <Boitata> but can't get hight
[19:52] <Boitata> der o cú
[19:52] <Boitata> alienX é viado
[19:52] <Boitata> Akuma dá o butão
[19:52] <DasEi> phillipsjk: ic, well intel integrated isn't best bet, so can for usual run ubu/debian, do you have tty at all atm ?
[19:52] <SeCuRe_> Pernig how can i know that?
[19:52] <Boitata> só tem corno e viado nesta sala
[19:52] <usr13> SeCuRe_:  "Command not found" is referint to the command, (not sudo).
[19:52] <sandy__> someone tells the tactics of shell script programming
[19:53] <SeCuRe_> usr13 trying sudo
[19:53] <DasEi> sandy__: #bash
[19:53] <{VeTeR}> hello, is someone here who knows good openid or janrain openid tutorial? original manual sux:/
[19:54] <usr13> SeCuRe_: Again, it is not sudo it is complaining about, it is the command you are using sudo to execute.  (Read what it says.)
[19:54] <Boitata> #brasil
[19:54] <SeCuRe_> usr13 it does not matter \
[19:54] <DasEi> Boitata: /join #ubuntu-br
[19:54] <phillipsjk> DasEi, It looks like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/index.html   Yes: is was able to find the "terminal" program by searching in dasher.
[19:55] <B4ckBOne> howto sync 2 ubuntu machines?
[19:55] <usr13> SeCuRe_: I'm sorry.  Waht is your question?
[19:55] <Pernig> SeCuRe_ "omap3_usbload" isn't a command by default
[19:55] <DasEi> phillipsjk: so you get default gui, that's current unity of ubuntu
[19:55] <SeCuRe_> usr13 i am just trying to run this simple sudo command
[19:55] <phillipsjk> On ther machines I get the older gui.
[19:56] <Pernig> to make it executable you would need to run "sudo chmod +x ~/omap3_usbload" BUT make sure the script isn't harmful before you run it
[19:56] <SeCuRe_> omap3_usbload is a file
[19:56] <DasEi> phillipsjk: you can switch back to classic gnome still, until next release
[19:56] <Pernig> especially if you plan to run it as root
[19:56] <SeCuRe_> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Last_Resort_Emergency_BootLoader_Recovery#OMAP_boot_Procedure
[19:56] <Pernig> ok
[19:57] <DasEi> !classic | phillipsjk:
[19:57] <SeCuRe_> i am trying chmod
[19:57] <Pernig> looks good SeCuRe_, run that chmod command like i said but run the omap3_usbload at your own risk mate
[19:57] <usr13> SeCuRe_: What the error message is telling you that omap_usbload is not a command.  Now if it is a script or some sort of executable and you want to run it, you will more-than-likely need to set the executable bit on it.  i.e. chmood +x omap3_usbload
[19:57] <Pernig> make sure your stuff is backed up etc, as i'm not an expert on the webos stuff
[19:57] <xoo> hi, how can i check whether i915 module has KMS enabled
[19:58] <glebihan> SeCuRe_, from what you've shown you have a omap3_usbload.c file but no omap3_usbload file, so you would have to compile it before you can run it
[19:58] <gt45r> jeh
[19:59] <usr13> SeCuRe_: But be sure it is going to do something you really want it to do before you set the executable bit and run it.
[20:00] <Nvrnight> Anyone around that could help me with an ubuntu server problem by chance? I'm pretty sure I must be doing something dumb
[20:01] <SeCuRe_>      usr13  and pernig thanks but it didnt worked
[20:01] <TheEvilPhoenix> Nvrnight:  #ubuntu-server
[20:01] <SeCuRe_> glebihan how do i compile it?
[20:01] <ki__> Nvrnight: just ask your question
[20:01] <Nvrnight> ty
[20:02] <Nvrnight> I have a script that does "apt-get install apache2", says it cannot find the package, but when I run the same command in the terminal, it finds it just fine
[20:02] <glebihan> SeCuRe_, use gcc (look at "man gcc" first)
[20:02] <glebihan> Nvrnight, why do you want a script to do that ?
[20:03] <usr13> SeCuRe_: Did you read and follow the instructions on the URL you posted above?
[20:03] <delkin> Hi everyone. I have installed the package 'playdeb', but when I click the 'install this now', in order to install a game, my system doesnt know which application should open to install it... I also have no idea where to find the 'playdeb' application (path). Someone help?    http://www.playdeb.net/updates/Ubuntu/all#how_to_install
[20:03] <Nvrnight> because I want to build my machine up from scratch easily
[20:04] <Nvrnight> and possibly new machines identical for different environments
[20:04] <glebihan> Nvrnight, ok could you paste (use pastebin if several lines) the complete error message you are getting ?
[20:04] <SIFTU> Nvrnight: if you are going to do that you should really use something like puppet or cfengine
[20:04] <usr13> delkin: What version of Ubuntu do you have installed?
[20:04] <Ellipsis753> With anacron if I set my program to run weekly then go on holiday for a mounth when I turn the computer back on it wont run it several times at once will it?
[20:05] <delkin> usr13: I have ubuntu 11.04
[20:05] <SeCuRe_> Guys how do i compile this file?
[20:06] <glebihan> SeCuRe_, already told you, use gcc
[20:06] <Nvrnight> glebihan, http://pastebin.com/G9eTyggi
[20:06] <usr13> delkin: Did you add the software soruce ?
[20:06] <SeCuRe_> usr13 i followed the steps over there and come to sudo step last
[20:07] <glebihan> Nvrnight, and you script just contains "apt-get install apache2" ?
[20:07] <SeCuRe_> glebihan sorry didnt see it
[20:07] <usr13> delkin: YOu got it installed?  Yes?  Or are you still trying to install it?
[20:07] <puff> Empathy seems to be having problems.  I started it and changed my status to available, contacts aren't showing up. Tried to initiate a voice chat, the dialog just sat there, trying to connect, until I hung up. Is there some way to see more detail on what's going wrong?
[20:07] <delkin> usr13, I just installed the package 'playdeb'
[20:07] <Nvrnight> yes
[20:08] <Nvrnight> glebihan, and if I run the command right in the terminal, it works fine
[20:08] <char> what player will play apple lossless?
[20:08] <usr13> delkin: which playdeb   #What does that say?
[20:08] <delkin> usr13, my synaptic manager has the package 'playdeb' installed. I downloaded it from the website.
[20:09] <usr13> delkin: You did not install it via the package manager?
[20:09] <SIFTU> Nvrnight: are you running the script as root? can you pastebin the script?
[20:09] <delkin> usr13, No, i didn't. The package says this:
[20:09] <delkin> This package adds the playdeb repository entry to your source list
[20:09] <delkin> and adds the respective GPG key.
[20:10] <Nvrnight> SIFTU, I am using root, sudo su before running the script, and the entire script right now is just that one line I put into chat
[20:10] <usr13> delkin: see my pm
[20:10] <glebihan> Nvrnight, don't use "sudo su"
[20:10] <Nvrnight> SIFTU, also if I add sudo to the command in the script, it doesn't change anything
[20:10] <glebihan> Nvrnight, use "sudo -i" instead
[20:11] <usr13> delkin: I think so far, you've only added the source
[20:11] <delkin> usr13, i think you might be right. What should I do?
[20:11] <SIFTU> Nvrnight: not even a shebang?
[20:11] <urlin2u> char, here is a link says they can  http://www.blog.highub.com/linux/play-itunes-m4a-files-on-linux-ubuntu/
[20:11] <Nvrnight> glebihan, I just did sudo -i instead, no effect
[20:12] <usr13> delkin: Oh, you probably need to do sudo apt-get update   first
[20:12] <Nvrnight> SIFTU, the error I get is the same as the error that you would normally get if you spelled the package name wrong
[20:12] <glebihan> Nvrnight, did you first quit the root shell ?
[20:12] <usr13> delkin: sudo apt-get update
[20:12] <SIFTU> Nvrnight: #!/bin/bash
[20:12] <Nvrnight> SIFTU, got that on the first line
[20:13] <SIFTU> Nvrnight: well apache2 is a meta package.. what about apache2.2-bin or whatever
[20:13] <urlin2u> char, notice date though 2008
[20:13] <usr13> delkin: And then, click on one of them.
[20:13] <SeCuRe_> still here and looking for help :/
[20:13] <char> other ubuntu support channels?
[20:13] <Nvrnight> SIFTU, I will just apache2.2-bin and see where that goes
[20:13] <urlin2u> SeCuRe_, just out of curiosity why do you want that app?
[20:14] <SIFTU> Nvrnight: what does "apt-cache search apache2" return?
[20:14] <Dr_Willis> Nvrnight:  normally you dont use sudo in scripts except in special cases
[20:14] <Nvrnight> Dr_Willis, I was just trying it to prove that that wasn't the cause
[20:15] <SeCuRe_> urlin2u it sends boot code my smartphone to get into recovery mode
[20:15] <bashelin> what is nickserv ???
[20:15] <Nvrnight> SIFTU, a lot of output came from the "apt-cache search apache2"
[20:15] <SIFTU> Nvrnight: and is your package listed
[20:15] <Dr_Willis> bashelin:  a service to allow someone to keep the same nick for a period of time.
[20:15] <Dr_Willis> bashelin:  /msg nickserv help
[20:15] <urlin2u> SeCuRe_, ah thats right, I remember now, thanks ;)
[20:15] <bashelin> anyone good with apache2  here ??
[20:15] <SeCuRe_> i did all the steps on the website but when it comes to sudo it fails!
[20:16] <Nvrnight> SIFTU, don't quite know how to check that, if "apt-get install apache2" works in the terminal, doesn't that mean it is?
[20:16] <usr13> SeCuRe_: Are you sure you did exactly as it said?
[20:16] <improveupon> could someone help me interpret some rsync errors? it should not take long. if so where should i paste?
[20:16] <urlin2u> SeCuRe_, so it is the tar that needs compiling?
[20:17] <SeCuRe_> Yes I am sure
[20:17] <SeCuRe_> it created a file boot.bin but someone said omap3_usbload needs to be compiled
[20:18] <urlin2u> improveupon, http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:18] <setepenre> is there the default gnome-terminal profile somewhere? i've lost mine and am going mad having to stare at this shitty zenburn theme all day
[20:18] <propus> is there any program for ubuntu that can find conflicts in the system.. between drivers and hardware and so on?
[20:18] <usr13> SeCuRe_: See my pm
[20:18] <SeCuRe_> http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Last_Resort_Emergency_BootLoader_Recovery#OMAP_boot_Procedure
[20:19] <iceroot_> propus: conflicts like?
[20:21] <propus> iceroot_: well i have this problem with my sli config.. when i activate sli in the xorg.conf file i get very poor performance, but when i set sli off the desktop runns very nice.. feel me?
[20:21] <Pernig> iceroot_ in my experience you want to be using nvidia-settings rather than messing around with xorg.conf if you are using the proprietary nvidia drivers
[20:21] <Lol> !op
[20:22] <Pernig> the nvidia settings usually creates xorg.conf for you
[20:22] <rww> Lol: Hi. What's the emergency?
[20:22] <iceroot_> propus: using the nonfree-driver?
[20:23] <improveupon> urlin2u: done
[20:23] <rww> Lol: Alrighty, I guess there wasn't one. In the future, please don't use factoids if you don't know what they do, and only use the ops factoid in channel emergencies.
[20:24] <SwordManX> teach me how to linux
[20:24] <rww> SwordManX: Ask an answerable question
[20:25] <SwordManX> ?
[20:25] <puff> rww: What's wrong wiht my empathy install :-)
[20:25] <urlin2u> improveupon, I probably can't help but you now post the http address
[20:25] <ashickur-noor> @SwordManX
[20:25] <ashickur-noor> what u want t know
[20:25] <SwordManX> ls
[20:25] <rww> !rute | SwordManX: in general
[20:25] <puff> rww: Empathy starts, never displays avalable contacts.
[20:25] <html> SwordManX,  hello?
[20:25] <propus> iceroot_: Yes. i have tryed the driver that comes with the os when i installd it and i have tryed the lastest driver from nvidias homepage.. i have had this problem every since i started using linux..
[20:25] <SwordManX> ls -la?
[20:25] <rww> puff: no idea, I don't use Empathy
[20:26] <iceroot_> propus: what is the reason to use sli on linux?
[20:26] <iceroot_> propus: and what do you mean with ppor performance? on what applications?
[20:26] <SwordManX> jk I know linux.  Just came in here to check things out
[20:26] <SwordManX> more of a fedora guy though
[20:27] <html> SwordManX,  what do you need?
[20:27] <SwordManX> just slight differences but sicne my customers use it
[20:27] <improveupon> urlin2u: thank you. everyone: i used rsync -av and got these errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/670345/
[20:27] <marcuy> hi, I don't have audio in Ubuntu 11.04, here is my output with "lshw" command: http://codepad.org/bnYkPpJO
[20:27] <SwordManX> just want to hang out in here a bit.
[20:28] <Jordan_U> !ot | SwordManX
[20:28] <SwordManX> some customers i have use ubuntu
[20:28] <propus> iceroot_: poor performance, ex. x-window is just laggy and runns very bad..
[20:28] <SwordManX> i know i will ask relavent quesions
[20:28] <setepenre> is there the default gnome-terminal profile somewhere? i've lost mine and am going mad having to stare at this sucky zenburn theme all day
[20:29] <html> SwordManX, i can help you
[20:29] <SwordManX> I'm fine right now.  I appreciate it. just going to lurk a bit until I have a question