[00:19] <pwp> Hello
[00:55] <pwp> Hello
[10:55] <inglor1> hi I tried to compile the 2.6.35 stable from source and after the making of packages i get an error on postinst.d
[10:57] <inglor1> here is the pastebin http://pastebin.org/482191
[10:58] <inglor1> Here is the command I use: fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version -$version-$now kernel-image kernel-headers
[11:12]  * LucidFox looks around
[19:16] <pwp> hello


[00:19] <Terexen> Anyone here up for helping me with some installation troubles?
[00:21] <Terexen> Had the installer crash on me and now it just boots to a blinking, unresponsive prompt.
[15:17] <bytesaber> Trying to use gsettings (or something from the command line) to pin a couple application icons to the top panel.    So far the closest i've seen is " org.mate.panel.object:/ " but I have no idea.
[15:18] <bytesaber> the panel ships with firefox alreayd pinned to it.  Let's say I wanted to do add a terminal next to it.  Any ideas?
[15:25] <sixwheeledbeast> use Add to Panel?
[15:26] <bytesaber> I'm trying to do a script to prepopulate one.  Rather than interact with the mouse /gui.  So i can automate / repeat it later


[07:04] <dholbach> good morning
[07:09] <nigelb> सुप्रभात
[07:51] <nigelb> lol, Air France strike.
[07:51] <nigelb> Fond memories of getting screwed over by Air India for Budapest.
[09:11]  * dholbach hugs popey
[09:12] <dholbach> popey, I'm sure we can find some SAP work for you
[09:13]  * nigelb hugs popey as well
[09:13] <nigelb> popey: AMAZING :)
[09:13] <nigelb> So, first person to quit ~not-canonical? ;)
[09:14] <Pendulum> morning
[09:14] <nigelb> Pendulum: I'd argue its still night for you :)
[09:15] <Pendulum> nigelb: it's after 5AM
[09:15] <Pendulum> perfectly acceptable time to get up :P
[09:15] <nigelb> hah
[09:16]  * AlanBell sends email to<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:17] <nigelb> I wonder what popey's going to shutdown now :P
[09:20] <dholbach> nigelb, yeah, my first thought was "I hope we can still borrow him to shut down mailing lists"
[09:20] <AlanBell> I think popey needs to be famous for something else!
[09:20] <nigelb> dholbach: heh
[09:21] <Pendulum> dholbach: I think it was earlier in the week that I actually suggested that he get paid to get all the trolls off ubuntu-user ;-)
[09:22] <dholbach> I wonder which kind of requirements would be listed in such a job description
[09:23] <nigelb> - Must have eternal patience.
[09:23] <nigelb> Done.
[09:24] <Pendulum> hard-as-nails
[09:25] <nigelb> - Should be able to read reddit for 24 hours and not be homicidal.
[09:25] <nigelb> That works as well and is good training for such a job :)
[09:26] <dholbach> I'm sure that wouldn't work well with many many work regulations across the world :)
[09:26] <nigelb> hehe
[09:29] <nigelb> I'm fairly surprised popey didn't announce what he is going to be doing
[09:31] <nigelb> AlanBell: Have there been other departures from the not-canonical team?
[09:31] <AlanBell> first one
[09:31] <nigelb> I just realized it was only Admins who can see that :/
[09:34] <AlanBell> hmm, we are down one admin now. Maybe pleia2 should make someone a new admin.
[09:34] <nigelb> o/ interested!
[09:48] <nigelb> HAHAHA
[09:48] <nigelb> https://twitter.com/#!/tonywhitmore/status/129856714177654784
[09:59] <popey> AlanBell: yeah, i only made lyz owner rather than you because i figured you would spot it sooner if I did that
[09:59] <popey> and I knew she was travelling :D
[10:00] <AlanBell> the notification went to a folder so I didn't see it for a bit
[10:00] <nigelb> hah
[10:01] <nigelb> popey: so, what are you going to be doing at Canonical?
[10:01]  * nigelb refrains from asking "what are you going to shut down"
[10:01] <popey> that worked then AlanBell :D
[10:02] <AlanBell> it did!
[10:03] <popey> ← devious
[10:03] <nigelb> heh
[10:03] <popey> of course I could have left not-canonical later
[10:04] <nigelb> Engineering Manager \o/
[10:04] <Pendulum> popey: I'm not sure if you'd be scared or pleased to know that all except 2 PM conversations I've had in the last 12 hours have started out with "do you know what popey's doing at Canonical now?"
[10:04] <popey> lol
[10:04] <popey> Shutting down mailing lists it seems.
[10:05] <nigelb> I loved tony's tweet
[10:05] <Pendulum> popey: I just figure you'd tell us, but you'd have to kill us afterwards and while that's one way to get new blood in Ubuntu community leadership, I'm not sure it's what the feedback on the survey actually meant ;-)
[10:05] <AlanBell> I do think the "shutting down things" meme is a little overdone
[10:06] <AlanBell> we can #blamepopey for so much more than that
[10:06] <nigelb> "sutting down things" meme got maxium publicity
[10:06] <nigelb> Pendulum: lol
[10:08] <Pendulum> popey: more important question, were you hired soon enough that you'll be at UDS? :P
[10:08] <nigelb> *most* important question
[10:09] <popey> heh
[10:09] <popey> I start on monday
[10:09] <popey> dunno if I will be at UDS or not
[10:10] <nigelb> But definitely at the next one?
[10:10] <nigelb> Okay, hopefully.
[10:10]  * popey shrugs
[10:10] <popey> like i say, dunno where I will be on monday let alone in 6 months
[10:10] <nigelb> heh
[10:10] <nigelb> working from home?
[10:11] <popey> I guess
[10:12] <czajkowski> heh
[10:15] <nigelb> popey: You still be working on the other project?
[10:16] <popey> in spare time, yeah
[10:16] <nigelb> \o/
[11:16] <Daviey> hahahha, spare time.
[11:18] <popey> :D
[11:18] <popey> It's 9-5 right?
[11:21]  * Pendulum hugs popey
[11:22] <Daviey> popey: Yeah, i think you'll find that it is 9-5.. with the timezone being any that is valid to make those times woring hours, at any point.
[11:31] <mhall119> spare time, heh
[11:33] <Pendulum> has anyone noted anywhere on any UDS things that the US & Canada change off Daylight Savings a week later than Europe does?
[11:34] <Pendulum> and that the week where the US is on DS and Europe isn't is the week of UDS?
[11:34] <Pendulum> (so, for example, 4 hour time difference between the US and UK next week rather than 5)
[11:34] <AlanBell> oh, interesting
[11:35] <Pendulum> I just realised I hadn't seen it mentioned anywhere and it could definitely effect remote participation
[11:35]  * Pendulum wonders who to poke
[11:36] <AlanBell> what do you suggest should be done?
[11:37] <czajkowski> a note to remind people re their flights :)
[11:37] <czajkowski> or onm top of schedule ?
[11:37] <Pendulum> yeah
[11:37] <AlanBell> flights should be fine, you will get on the plane at the same time
[11:37] <Pendulum> I was thinking a note on the remote participation page
[11:38] <Pendulum> since those are the people most likely to need to know
[11:38] <czajkowski> nods
[11:39] <AlanBell> so 9AM->1PM UK time
[11:39] <Pendulum> next week that is correct
[11:39] <Pendulum> I'm sending out an e-mail about UDS to the Accessibility team and in my section about remote participation, I'm putting in a reminder
[11:40] <nigelb> Pendulum: Figure out what to write
[11:40] <nigelb> I can edit uds.ubuntu.com :)
[11:41] <nigelb> so can cjohnston, jcastro, or lyz.
[11:42] <nigelb> Daviey: "spare time" is a myth isn't it? :P
[11:44] <Pendulum> "Please note that the US does not switch back to standard time until Sunday November 6, 2011, while Europe will have switched back on Sunday October 30. Please double check that you know what the time difference is for you from Orlando."
[11:44] <Pendulum> does that sound about right?
[11:45] <nigelb> We should mention Daylight Savings somewhere
[11:46] <Pendulum> Please note that the US will still be on Daylight Savings Time and does not switch back... ?
[11:46] <nigelb> Yeah
[11:46] <nigelb> That's better :)
[11:46] <Pendulum> also, something should probably get mentioned on UDS announce
[11:46] <nigelb> "Standard time" might be confusing
[11:46] <nigelb> I wwas writing an email :)
[11:46] <Pendulum> ta :)
[11:49] <nigelb> and done.
[11:52] <nigelb> Pendulum: Does putting a note on http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/remote/ sound good?
[11:52] <Pendulum> yes
[11:55] <nigelb> ALSO
[11:55] <nigelb> so many fun events this UDS.
[11:55] <nigelb> :/
[11:56] <nigelb> Pendulum: Updated, does it look good?
[11:57] <nigelb> gah, it looks misplaced.
[11:57] <Pendulum> yeah, I'd change the placement to after the link about plenaries
[11:57] <Pendulum> and then it'll look better
[11:58] <nigelb> \o/ https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/uds-announce/2011-October/000079.html
[11:58] <nigelb> Pendulum: Done!
[11:59] <nigelb> jcastro: FYI, Pendulum and I added a Daylight Sayings Time section on http://uds.ubuntu.com/participate/remote/
[12:20] <Pendulum> I wonder how many Europeans have forgotten that their time change is this weekend, anyway
[12:20] <Pendulum> (luckily I think this is the direct where if they were to go to the airport it would just get them there an hour early instead of late)
[12:40] <popey> not sure most people care these days do they
[12:40] <popey> clocks switch automatically
[12:40] <popey> extra hour in the pub tho
[12:41] <Pendulum> well, my parents are on holiday in Europe without a computer or anything else so they care
[12:41] <Pendulum> (all they have is my mum's watch and a travel alarm clock)
[12:41] <Pendulum> and it's probably useful in case something doesn't switch like it's supposed to
[12:43] <nigelb> popey: All clocks?
[12:43]  * mhall119 is slowing adjusting himself into thinking in UTC
[12:43] <popey> most
[12:43] <nigelb> mhall119: Me too.
[12:43] <mhall119> nigelb: all of the clocks!
[12:44] <nigelb> mhall119: Nice use of the meme :P
[12:45] <nigelb> popey: you dont use analog clock or does those switch too?
[12:45] <popey> i have no analog clocks in the house
[12:45] <popey> oh, one, in Sams room
[12:45] <nigelb> Nice
[12:46] <nigelb> I sorta imagined you'd have a Cuckoo clock ;)
[12:47] <nigelb> This is excellent morning read - http://thestallmandialogues.com/
[12:53] <snap-l> If I were king, every clock would use the atomic radio to calibrate itself.
[12:53] <snap-l> WWVB here in the USA
[12:56] <snap-l> Also, when I'm king, we'll never have Daylight Savings time again.
[12:57] <snap-l> It will be abolished
[13:12] <topyli> boo too many email accounts. account switching should be automatic. "when sending to ubuntu lists, always use ubuntu address." shouldn't be impossible
[13:26] <AlanBell> topyli: you can subscribe with multiple addresses and turn off delivery on the ones you don't want to get mail to
[13:27] <topyli> AlanBell: yeah, i know. but i'd prefer actually doing the right thing :)
[13:27] <nigelb> Or you could write a whole new email client to do that.
[13:27] <nigelb> I mean. its not impossible ;)
[13:28] <topyli> maybe i'll just do the same as always and whine while gmail doesn't offer that :)
[13:36] <Pendulum> oh crap, we could get 8-9" of snow tomorrow
[13:36] <Pendulum> it better be clear by Sunday!
[13:37] <nigelb> ouch
[13:37] <Pendulum> okay, supposed to be sunny on Sunday
[13:37] <Pendulum> so it's just tomorrow that should be bad
[13:41] <Pendulum> I would be majorly annoyed if this kept me from UDS
[14:22] <nigelb> topyli: You probably gave me the idea for a thunderbird addon.
[14:22] <nigelb> Now I know what I'll be doig this weekend :)
[14:23] <topyli> <3
[14:23] <nigelb> I have no clue what I'm doing. I'm going through documentation :P
[14:27] <czajkowski> Pendulum: it had better now :)
[14:27] <czajkowski> not
[14:53] <dholbach> hey jono
[14:54] <nigelb> Apparently its raining in Orlando.
[14:54] <nigelb> Which sounds less fun :)
[14:54] <mhall119> nigelb: not anymore, it stopped an hour or so ago
[14:54] <mhall119> in Lakeland anyway
[14:54] <dholbach> jono, raining? that's not what I signed up for - I'm not coming
[14:55] <nigelb> lol
[14:55] <nigelb> dholbach: Take some of that sunshine with you :P
[14:55] <dholbach> umbrellas, yes - but only the small ones for the magheritas
[14:55] <mhall119> dholbach: it's okay, because it's still 80F
[14:55]  * dholbach takes out the calculator...........
[14:55] <nigelb> dholbach: 21 C
[14:55] <maco> dholbach: about 25C
[14:55] <maco> ok or 21
[14:55] <dholbach> 26 something
[14:55] <mhall119> lol
[14:55] <nigelb> err 26
[14:55] <dholbach> not too bad then :)
[14:55] <maco> hah
[14:56] <maco> woo my quick estimate was close
[14:56] <mhall119> I thought there was an accurage conversion
[14:56] <maco> i ballparked 25 from knowing that 90 is about 32
[14:56] <mhall119> dholbach: the rain itself is that temperature too
[14:56] <maco> calculators...pfft
[14:56] <maco> mhall119: so its like a bath falling from the sky?
[14:56] <mhall119> essentially, yes
[14:57] <mhall119> only it's stopped now
[14:57] <mhall119> so it's like a sauna
[14:57] <nigelb> I still think I should invite all of you guys for a proper Indian monsoon :)
[14:57] <mhall119> nigelb: we have a hurricane in the gulf of mexico right now
[14:59] <maco> i think dc can dress up and play monsoon just fine
[14:59] <maco> thankfully it rarely bothers to do so for more than an hour at a time
[15:00] <nigelb> We have rains that start one day morning and go on till the next morning :)
[15:00] <nigelb> Bangalore, thankfully, is more calmer.
[15:00] <maco> dc gets more rain than london, it just compresses an entire 24hr worth of rain into 30-60 minutes
[15:00] <nigelb> lol
[15:00] <maco> you feel a couple big slow raindrops, you RUN for cover
[15:01] <nigelb> I remember driving the bike in rain once with a visibility of about 20 meters
[15:01] <nigelb> That was fun.
[15:01] <mhall119> nigelb: I remember doing that in a car
[15:01] <mhall119> with about half the visibility
[15:01] <nigelb> mhall119: Its probably saner in a car ;)
[15:01] <nigelb> I didn't have a helmet or raincoat.
[15:02] <maco> your mother let you out without a helmet?
[15:02] <mhall119> neither did I
[15:02] <maco> mhall119: if it wasnt a convertible i dont think you needed the raincoat
[15:02] <maco> :P
[15:02] <nigelb> maco: It was driving back and it was actually some of the inner roads with less trafic.
[15:02] <nigelb> It was sunny when we went out
[15:05] <popey> \o/ flight to UDS booked
[15:05] <nigelb> HA
[15:05] <nigelb> popey: I KNEW IT
[15:05] <popey> surprised the ETSA thing went through immediately
[15:06] <popey> I thought it took hours
[15:06] <nigelb> Is that why you didn't commit?
[15:06] <nigelb> (whether you're going or not)
[15:06] <nigelb> Hrm, I thought Britan needed a visa for US.
[15:06] <czajkowski> my esta was valid since dallas
[15:06] <maco> no
[15:06] <maco> the UK is one of the 5 Eyes
[15:06] <maco> or is that Is
[15:06] <popey> czajkowski: mine expired 7 days ago
[15:06] <Pendulum> popey: yay!!!!
[15:06] <maco> i dont know ive only heard it pronounced!
[15:07] <czajkowski> popey: mine expires nove 4th but tis fine while i am there
[15:07] <maco> US, UK, Canada, Australia, NZ
[15:07] <popey> nigelb: no, i didnt commit because I only knew I was supposed to go this morning, so got flight booked
[15:07] <czajkowski> popey: yay
[15:08] <akgraner> popey, cool beans glad you'll be here too :-)
[15:08] <nigelb> popey: \o/
[15:08] <nigelb> popey: But glad you're going :)
[15:08] <popey> I expect I will be very busy
[15:08] <akgraner> popey, when isn't it :-)
[15:08] <popey> :D
[15:08] <akgraner> (or you rather)
[15:53] <mhall119> popey: talk about last minute planning
[15:53] <mhall119> popey: are you going for UDS, or is your team sprinting?
[15:54] <nigelb> mhall119: I think i have to give popey my last minute award
[15:55] <mhall119> nigelb: how many hours did you have to spare?
[15:55]  * mhall119 assumes popey has < 24 hours before his flight
[15:56] <nigelb> mhall119: Well, I had about one month to plan. But when I hate ticket + passport in my hand, I had like 7 hours.
[15:56] <nigelb> Tickets were booked the previous night
[15:56] <Pendulum> mhall119: probably more like <48, but it's still about as close as I know
[15:56] <dholbach> alright my friends - have to catch a train - have a great WE
[15:56] <mhall119> hmmm, nigelb may still be the champ
[15:56] <mhall119> dholbach: see you Sunday?
[15:56] <dholbach> yep
[15:57] <mhall119> cool, have a safe trip
[15:57] <dholbach> thanks
[15:57] <nigelb> dholbach: Have fun :)
[15:57] <dholbach> see you
[15:57] <jcastro> HELLO!
[15:57] <nigelb> jcastro: HEY!
[15:57] <nigelb> jcastro: Did you see my ping about updating content?
[15:57] <nigelb> I added a timezone alert to the remote participation page.
[15:59] <popey> mhall119: not flying till monday
[15:59] <Daviey> slacker
[15:59] <popey> I'm not insured until I start working for the company :p
[15:59] <nigelb> hah, I get to keep my prize :P
[15:59] <popey> filed as excuse 231.
[16:00] <nigelb> popey: fly at Monday 00:00?
[16:00] <nigelb> popey: How's the wife?
[16:00]  * popey notes not many planes fly at that time
[16:00] <popey> much better thanks
[16:00]  * AlanBell updates ubingo.libertus.co.uk to add the string "popey"
[16:00] <nigelb> :)
[16:00] <popey> lol
[16:01] <nigelb> AlanBell: we need orchestra in there
[16:01] <AlanBell> done
[16:01] <nigelb> and juju, charms
[16:02] <popey> are android, ipad, chrome and iphone in ?
[16:02] <nigelb> android, arm, 64-bit
[16:02] <AlanBell> done, and ensemble
[16:02] <nigelb> Someday, I'll get to see a UDS in Asia.
[16:03] <nigelb> I meant to ask Mark that last time. Completely forgot.
[16:03] <AlanBell> http://pad.ubuntu.com/precisewords
[16:03] <nigelb> aha
[16:03]  * nigelb starts adding
[16:03] <AlanBell> feel free to remove as well
[16:05] <nigelb> Doesn't China have Ubuntu sold in shops now?
[16:07] <AlanBell> yup
[16:07] <AlanBell> I think that page could perhaps benefit from some cosmetic tweaks
[16:07] <nigelb> I remember playing ubingo last time with bac sitting next to me and Jane next to him
[16:08] <nigelb> Srsly awesome :)
[16:08] <popey> just realised I'll be on a plane when you lot are playing
[16:08] <nigelb> popey: We'll hope you'll be on a plane with wifi
[16:08] <popey> hah, no chance
[16:09] <popey> I dont think Virgin Atlantic does airborne wifi
[16:09] <nigelb> I think it does.
[16:09] <nigelb> Virgin is known to have wifi.
[16:09] <nigelb> Not if Atlantic has it though
[16:09] <nigelb> someone I know got a chromebook for the duration of his flight.
[16:10] <AlanBell> http://virginatlantic.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/318
[16:10] <nigelb> aww
[16:27] <AlanBell> speeded up the loading time now, not using web fonts now that the ubuntu font is installed by default
[16:32] <jcastro> nigelb: good idea wrt. time zone
[16:33] <nigelb> jcastro: Pendulum remembered to do it. I was glad I was around and had access :)
[17:20] <nigelb> jcastro: LOL.
[17:21] <nigelb> jcastro: first plenary "Introduction and Keynote" was scheduled for the 'grand ballroom' room in... Budapest
[18:33] <AlanBell> does summit have an output which is just a big old list of sessions?
[18:34] <nigelb> Nope ^-^
[18:34] <nigelb> There is an API thhough
[18:37] <AlanBell> I might make a nice page of stuff
[18:40] <bkerensa> AlanBell: How does a LoCo make use of meetingology
[18:40] <AlanBell> you saw it arrive :)
[18:41] <AlanBell> markdude just asked for it
[18:41] <AlanBell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology
[18:42] <AlanBell> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/Meeting/Guidelines  < how we do meetings in -uk
[18:50]  * AlanBell is making a list schedule for UDS Quintisential Quoll
[18:55] <nigelb> AlanBell: lol, it was on my list to put into work items
[18:55] <nigelb> AlanBell: Thanks :D
[18:56] <mhall119> AlanBell: I want to add LTP integration into meetingology, should I fork it is there a way to make it a plugin or something?
[18:57] <AlanBell> feel free to fork
[18:57] <AlanBell> I am happy to help as well
[18:58] <bkerensa> AlanBell: Actually I didnt :P but now I do... So it will just idle in channel permanently?
[18:58] <popey> AlanBell: i think you mean Quintisential Quagga
[18:58] <AlanBell> bkerensa: yes
[18:58] <quagga> I agree!
[18:59] <nigelb> what the..
[18:59] <nigelb> hah popey.
[18:59] <popey> :D
[18:59] <AlanBell> squatter!
[18:59] <popey> i registered the nick to spoil pangolin / idleone
[18:59] <nigelb> lol
[19:00] <AlanBell> quagga is extinct
[19:00] <nigelb> We should call the 'R' one "Rolling Rick" in honor of Rick Astley, rick rolling, and THE INTERNET.
[19:01] <AlanBell> not Rampant Rabbit then :(
[19:02] <popey> seen many jackalopes recently?
[19:03] <AlanBell> don't tell me they have gone extinct too!
[19:04] <pangolin> popey: y u no love me
[19:04] <quagga> it's not that I dont love you
[19:04] <quagga> it's that I wanted to get in before you
[19:04] <quagga> IN B4 IDLEONE
[19:05] <quagga> and I predict that quagga is 12.10
[19:05] <pangolin> Well, I am flattered
[19:05] <quagga> really?
[19:05] <quagga> hmm
[19:05] <quagga> I failed there then
[19:05] <quagga> ;)
[19:05] <pangolin> no but seemed appropriate
[19:06] <snap-l> I nominate Rolling Rook for the R release.
[19:07] <snap-l> Would be perfect if Ubuntu ever gets Rolling releases, but I'm not holding my breath
[19:07] <popey> I still dont see the fascination with rolling releases
[19:08] <snap-l> popey: All the cool kids have them
[19:08] <popey> well, I can see an argument for a stable debian unstable
[19:08] <popey> clearly
[19:08] <snap-l> It's like the trapper-keeper of the Linux world.
[19:08] <snap-l> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trapper_Keeper for those playing at home)
[19:30] <topyli> debian unstable doesn't have to be stable. we have ubuntu for that
[19:30] <topyli> sid is fine just the way it's always been
[19:45] <jcastro> mhall119: hey how often is the cron job running to autoschedule?
[19:46] <jcastro> AlanBell: someone made a list view
[19:46] <jcastro> it's posted on ubuntu-devel in response to one of my threads
[19:50] <jcastro> hey AlanBell
[19:50] <jcastro> and pleia2
[19:50] <jcastro> and nigelb
[19:50] <jcastro> so, IS wants to put etherpad behind single sign on
[19:50] <jcastro> and he will automagically add ubuntu members, the loco teams etc.
[19:50] <nigelb> will IS write the code?
[19:50] <jcastro> but he wants a moderated team so normal people can apply and get access
[19:51] <jcastro> yeah
[19:51] <jcastro> they're just putting it behind the normal SSO
[19:51] <nigelb> FOR THIS UDS/
[19:51] <nigelb> ?
[19:51] <jcastro> yeah
[19:51] <nigelb> That's wtf :/
[19:51] <jcastro> well, remember the spam last time?
[19:51] <nigelb> But it was revertable.
[19:51] <nigelb> :(
[19:51] <jcastro> why :(?
[19:52] <nigelb> Well, I don't mind it
[19:52] <jcastro> we put everything else behind SSO
[19:52] <nigelb> I do mind the last minuteness.
[19:52] <nigelb> meh, lets do it
[19:52] <jcastro> yeah well, that's their problem. :)
[19:52] <nigelb> create a team, add ~ubuntumembers in it by default.
[19:52] <jcastro> yeah so, when he tells me what the team is, I will add a bunch of us to it
[19:52] <jcastro> right
[19:52] <jcastro> and the groups that make sense
[19:52] <nigelb> Wait
[19:52] <nigelb> Only people in one team get access?
[19:52] <jcastro> but we'll need to accept people who want to apply to go to etherpad
[19:52] <jcastro> no
[19:52] <jcastro> he's automatically adding members and locos
[19:53] <jcastro> this is another team for say, OMG ubuntu reader that doesn't have any team accounts but wants to participate.
[19:53] <jcastro> so it'll be like the font interest group.
[19:53] <nigelb> can he at least read the content?
[19:53] <jcastro> I think so
[19:53] <jcastro> I will ask
[19:53] <jcastro> bbias
[19:53] <nigelb> yeah
[19:53]  * nigelb sleeps
[19:54] <nigelb> catch up with mhall119 or cjohnston as well.
[19:58] <AlanBell> hi jcastro
[20:00] <AlanBell> wow, sso for etherpad on friday evening before UDS, interesting idea
[20:02] <AlanBell> jcastro: make some people who are not at UDS admins of the team
[20:03] <jcastro> AlanBell: yea so I was going to just add you guys if that's ok
[20:03] <AlanBell> who is coding this up?
[20:03] <nigelb> AlanBell: Everything is awesome last minute :)
[20:04] <nigelb> At AlanBell should connect with whoever is coding this up :)
[20:06] <AlanBell> I guess they will be doing it at the haproxy level
[20:07] <AlanBell> which would probably mean no unauthenticated access at all
[20:08] <jcastro> it's basically just flipping a switch in apache
[20:08] <jcastro> hey so I talked to elmo
[20:08] <jcastro> and everyone in ubuntu members will be able to admin the team
[20:09] <jcastro> and then when people go and can't get in he will have a banner telling people to go to the team and apply
[20:09] <nigelb> can we figure out who's spamming and later kick them out?
[20:09] <jcastro> well last time I guess it was a big problem
[20:09] <jcastro> and he doesn't want an IS guy sitting there all day watching the pad for people being bad
[20:10] <jcastro> and the team will be in the irc topic and stuff telling them what team to apply to
[20:10] <nigelb> cool, ok.
[20:10] <nigelb> I just wish we planned this earlier
[20:10] <nigelb> I'm happy for this change and all.
[20:11] <AlanBell> so they have apache as a reverse proxy in front of it or something?
[20:11] <AlanBell> urls like http://pad.ubuntu-uk.org/ep/pad/view/WhatShouldPopeyTakeToTheUSA/latest could perhaps be excluded from the authentication requirement
[20:11] <nigelb> Yeah.
[20:12] <nigelb> anything with /ep/
[20:16] <popey> :D
[20:17] <jcastro> nigelb: well on the plus side, everything is working!
[20:17] <AlanBell> in what way?
[20:22] <mhall119> new blog post: http://mhall119.com/2011/10/to-the-cloud/
[20:35] <mhall119> jcastro: yoo hoo, where are you?
[20:35] <mhall119> don't make me come over there
[20:35] <jcastro> yo
[20:35] <mhall119> jcastro: ah, there you are
[20:36] <mhall119> I'm told you're the man to see about getting my post syndicated to the cloud portal
[20:36] <jcastro> yep
[20:36] <jcastro> on it now
[20:37] <mhall119> thanks
[20:37] <jcastro> nice work
[20:37] <jcastro> that's nice dude
[20:38] <jcastro> mhall119: done
[20:40] <mhall119> jcastro: you rock, thanks
[20:41] <nigelb> lol
[20:41] <nigelb> what popey should take to the US has "Bird Flu" as an entry
[20:42] <nigelb> and DD-MM-YYYY
[20:43] <mhall119> as long as he doesn't have "metric" on the list
[20:43] <nigelb> HHAHAHA
[20:43] <nigelb> "Me."
[20:44] <nigelb> "The Queen"
[20:45] <mhall119> popey can keep his Monarchs, thank you very much
[20:46] <AlanBell> mhall119: I am sure you would prefer to be a subject really
[20:46] <mhall119> AlanBell: if we've proven anything, it's that we only like monarchs *before* the ascend to the throne.  You know, when they're still young and story-book like.
[20:47] <maco> mhall119: also when theyre really just actors
[20:47] <maco> like at rennfest or medieval times castle
[20:47] <AlanBell> I have this theory that our monarchy serves the equivalent constitutional purpose of your gun laws
[20:47] <maco> to overthrow the government?
[20:47] <AlanBell> yes
[20:47] <maco> i mean... <<  >>
[20:48] <maco> yall overthrew the monarchy once though
[20:48] <nigelb> lol
[20:48] <AlanBell> not to overthrow the government as such
[20:49] <AlanBell> the army is loyal to the crown
[20:49] <nigelb> Ok, sleep attempt #2.
[20:49] <nigelb> g'nite
[20:49] <mhall119> man, if I keep blogging like this, I'm gonna have to upgrade to an m1.small instance
[20:49] <AlanBell> the queen lends her army to the government and lets them use it
[20:50] <AlanBell> and the government pays for it
[20:50] <mhall119> AlanBell: I thought you meant an unused relic for conservatives to cling to out of misplaced patriotic zeal
[20:50] <AlanBell> that too
[21:06] <Pendulum> urgh, our snow prediction has gone up to 10-15"
[21:06] <Pendulum> tomorrow night
[21:08] <AlanBell> oh no
[21:08] <AlanBell> you fly sunday?
[21:09] <Pendulum> yeah
[21:09] <Pendulum> trying to decide best plan of action
[21:12] <AlanBell> that is airport closing kind of snow
[21:12] <Pendulum> yeah
[21:12] <AlanBell> not just getting to the airport kind of a problem
[21:12] <Pendulum> right
[21:12] <Pendulum> I'm worried
[21:12] <Pendulum> trying to figure out who I should call/e-mail about plan of action
[21:13] <Pendulum> I'm hoping that because it's not supposed to get much below freezing that instead it'll stay just above freezing and all be rain instead
[21:14] <AlanBell> flying from Boston?
[21:18] <Pendulum> no, I'm flying from a smaller local airport
[21:19] <Pendulum> but I'm thinking the Boston folks should have the same problem and I would assume at least one or two people are flying from there
[21:19] <AlanBell> Logan is right on the sea, they shouldn't get too much snow there
[21:22] <Pendulum> yeah, but that's 2 hours away from me
[21:22] <Pendulum> more in snow
[21:23] <AlanBell> could you reschedule to a flight from Logan and travel to central Boston tomorrow and stay over in a hotel or something?
[21:23] <Pendulum> probably not easily
[21:23] <Pendulum> would be easier to just leave from here tomorrow
[21:24] <Pendulum> it's not supposed to snow until the evening
[21:24] <Pendulum> have sent an e-mail to my cat sitter to see if they'd be able to take the kitten a day earlier
[21:24] <AlanBell> that sounds like a good plan if you can
[21:25] <AlanBell> just don't get snowed in at an airport
[21:25] <Pendulum> mhall119: are you around?
[21:27] <Pendulum> okay being told to stick to original plan for now
[21:29] <AlanBell> taxi to the airport on Sunday then?
[21:29] <Pendulum> yeah
[21:30] <czajkowski> wonder is huats flights affected due to air france strikes
[21:31] <Pendulum> *nods*
[21:31] <Pendulum> stupid weather and stupid strikes
[21:35] <jcastro> AlanBell: hey can you hang in #canonical-is?
[21:35] <jcastro> elmo might need to ping you wrt. the group
[21:35] <czajkowski> Pendulum: me and snow do not go
[21:35] <AlanBell> no such channel jcastro, I joined -isd but you are not in it
[21:36] <nigelb> AlanBell: #canonical-sysadmins is probably the one he meant.
[21:36] <nigelb> *sysadmin
[21:36] <czajkowski> AlanBell: #canonical-sysadmin
[21:36] <AlanBell> joined that now
[21:36] <jcastro> ah sorry!
[21:37] <jcastro> thanks!
[21:37] <nigelb> Let me try this sleep thing again.
[21:37] <nigelb> cjohnston woke me up the last time with a phone call :P
[21:40] <mhall119> Pendulum: I am
[22:04] <czajkowski> oh it looks like ireland has elected our 9th president
[22:05] <czajkowski> 1st one in 14 years not to be a female
[22:05] <maco> were there a lot of repeats taht arent being counted, or did you just switch to having a president in the last 50 years-ish?
[22:06] <mhall119> czajkowski: congrats, it's a shame the British still haven't learned about this whole republican thing
[22:07] <czajkowski> http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=President_of_Ireland
[22:07] <czajkowski> maco: we've had a president of Ireland since 1938
[22:08] <maco> its weird to think of there being anything "recent" about ireland
[22:08] <czajkowski> well considering we'
[22:08] <maco> like....old ancient buildings and such, odd to think your government is so new
[22:08] <czajkowski> well considering we've just elected our 9th it shows you how young it is
[22:08] <czajkowski> and a term is 7 years renewed once
[22:09] <czajkowski> maco: well there is a difference in the history
[22:09] <czajkowski> pre president and post :)
[22:09] <maco> im sure, though tbh i dont know what was going on there before england got involved with ulster and all
[22:09] <maco> can you recommend a good book on irish history?
[22:10] <AlanBell> um, England was involved with the rest of it
[22:10] <czajkowski> actually the last 3 presidents were females as the current one ran for two terms
[22:10] <czajkowski> maco: one day I'm gonna send you some history books to read
[22:11] <czajkowski> you amaze me each tiome you bring up eu history specifcally england and irish history
[22:11] <maco> AlanBell: i mentioned ulster just bc of hte ulster scots and the incentives to repopulate
[22:11] <maco> czajkowski: most we get here is "there was potato famine" ... even that there had been a conflict with northern ireland and the republic and all i only heard of from the History Channel
[22:12] <maco> hell, i learned only a couple weeks ago that the England had a civil war!
[22:13] <maco> remove taht "the"
[22:13] <czajkowski> everyone takes history and georgraphy till they are 15/16 aka junior cert level and it';s not just irish history or georgraphy you are taught.
[22:14] <maco> we learn geography...memorize all the countries in africa, be able to label all the countries in western europe on a map with no words
[22:14] <czajkowski> then leaving cert it gets a lot more detailed and history turns mostly into essay style questions and georgrahy becomes very detailed on mountains rivers and what areas specalise in what over /eu
[22:14] <maco> but eastern europe and asia are pretty well left off
[22:14] <Pendulum> maco: there have been multiple English civil wars
[22:14] <maco> though that "be able to list all countries in africa" was in 3rd grade so i couldnt do it anymore
[22:14] <maco> Pendulum: oh. im thinking of 1649
[22:14] <Pendulum> what do you think they call the American Revolution?
[22:14] <AlanBell> and we won them all \o/
[22:15] <maco> Pendulum: the...american...revolution?
[22:15] <Pendulum> AlanBell: except ours :P
[22:15] <AlanBell> Pendulum: ah, but that was an away game
[22:15] <czajkowski> http://breakingnews.ie/racetothearas/ is interesting to watch as one of the canidates was a sinn fein person
[22:15] <czajkowski> i really had hoped norris would get it
[22:15] <AlanBell> we don't call it a civil war anyway
[22:16] <AlanBell> it was the american war of independence
[22:16] <maco> czajkowski: my european history course in high school had the obligatory 1066, then some jumping over for charlemagne, some napoleon, dante alighieri... the UK is nowhere in there between 1066 and WWI
[22:17] <AlanBell> it was a fairly dull period mostly
[22:17] <maco> AlanBell: he must be the king. he aint got shit on him
[22:17] <maco> </bad monty python quoting>
[22:18] <maco> AlanBell: so what other times did you have a civil war besides "off with charlie's head"?
[22:18] <czajkowski> maco: we had to learn about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_and_Tans
[22:18]  * maco thought that was a drink
[22:18] <czajkowski> maco: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_civil_war
[22:19] <maco> czajkowski: sounds like what we'd call Pinkertons in that time period
[22:19] <AlanBell> maco: we only had one really I think, but it was kind of several wars
[22:19] <AlanBell> or one rather long one
[22:20] <maco> hmm i am noticing a pattern that any class about "europe" in the US is really only about france and germany
[22:20] <Pendulum> maco: wait, didn't we tell you about the civil war in 1649 when we gave you the order of English monarchy at the UW dinner last year?
[22:20] <maco> Pendulum: oh um maybe? hmmm if so i relearned of it a few weeks ago when trying to find out what army attempted to recruit George Fox (the Parliamentary Army) and was readng about diggers and levellers and suchlike
[22:20] <AlanBell> lots of other places decided to leave the British Empire though non-diplomatic channels
[22:21] <maco> one of my friends really wants to draw parallels between the Occupiers and the Diggers
[22:21] <AlanBell> sounds like a game of lemmings
[22:21] <maco> what?
[22:22] <AlanBell> levellers and occupiers and diggers and bridge builders and bombers and umbrella parachute things
[22:24] <maco> czajkowski: our history courses skip inconvenient chunks of our own history too. like that time we invaded canada and got trounced and the only reason we still salute being that the president RAN AWAY before the capital was burned (He declared a new temporary capital just in time)
[22:24] <maco> or the korean war
[22:24] <maco> or the vietnam war
[22:24] <maco> erm i mean
[22:24] <maco> the only reason we still salute palm-down being....
[22:25] <maco> smallpox blankets...
[22:25] <maco> yeah basically american history courses are french/indian war, revolution, civil war, ww1, ww2, oh look we ran out of time
[22:29] <maco> (at least, being cowards who run away instead of surrender is the explanation i was given for why Rory saluted differently in Doctor Who than the Americans did)
[22:29] <maco> (erm where cowards = us americans)
[22:36] <maco> heading out before i become more of an example of a stupid american
[22:36] <AlanBell> o/ maco
[22:37] <AlanBell> maco is a very clever American
[23:07] <AlanBell> http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-p/meeting/19255/plenary-letsgetreadyto-rumble/  <- sso to get to the pad \o/
[23:09] <greg-g> AlanBell: so any remote participant/view has to be an official Ubuntu Memeber or a member of a LoCo Team to even see the pad?
[23:09] <greg-g> s/view/viewer/
[23:09] <AlanBell> they will see it without any fuss
[23:09] <AlanBell> otherwise join https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-etherpad
[23:10] <AlanBell> and one of the attentive administrators will add them
[23:10] <greg-g> I don't see the pad unless I sign in and are a member of one of those groups
[23:10] <AlanBell> and there should be a useful message pointing people to that group if they are not in members or a loco team
[23:10] <greg-g> and, it isn't clear on the page page that I should join that ubuntu-etherpad group if I'm not a member/loco member
[23:10] <greg-g> ah
[23:10] <greg-g> I guess I can't test that :)
[23:10] <AlanBell> that will be made clearer apparently
[23:11] <AlanBell> ~linaro also get in automatically
[23:12] <AlanBell> and ~linaro-community
[23:22] <AlanBell> jcastro: can we get the ~ubuntu-etherpad group communicated to attendees as the place to go if etherpad doesn't just work for them
[23:24] <mhall119> AlanBell: why are we locking it down to certain groups?
[23:26] <AlanBell> someone wanted to
[23:26] <greg-g> mhall119: I think, based off what was mentioned here today, spam
[23:27] <AlanBell> "anyone with a launchpad account" would seem to me to be a reasonable grouping
[23:27] <mhall119> is it not enough to lock it down to people with an SSO account?
[23:27]  * greg-g nods
[23:27] <AlanBell> mhall119: ask elmo
[23:27] <AlanBell> I am off to bed, night all o/
[23:27] <mhall119> night AlanBell
[23:27] <greg-g> last minute changes to access restrictions == not a good idea
[23:28] <mhall119> greg-g: at least it's not last minute changes to code
[23:30]  * greg-g nods
[23:31] <greg-g> I guess, but changes to who can participate and who can't like this can be seen badly by the community if not communicated well


[17:00] <sputnick> I have autopilot 1.4 working (i.e. can interact and read with the GUI) with a Qt qml file via the qmlviewer. However, I have been unable to get autopilot to work with the overall PySide+qml based application.
[17:00] <sputnick> It gives the error "DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)"
[17:01] <sputnick> running autopilot in verbose mode this appears to be caused by the select_single function
[17:02] <balloons> sputnick, autopilot 1.4? why an older version?
[17:03] <balloons> sputnick, can you do a print_tree and get objects and properties back? Does vis work?
[17:03] <sputnick> That's what came with ubuntu 14.04. What is the latest version?
[17:04] <balloons> sputnick, 1.5 is the latest. check out https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/autopilot/python/1.5.0/guides-installation/
[17:04] <balloons> basically you can get autopilot 1.5 from a ppa, good idea to go ahead and upgrade
[17:06] <sputnick> Thanks for letting me know
[17:06] <sputnick> Does the 1.4 tutorial still apply, or have there been a lot of changes? http://unity.ubuntu.com/autopilot/index.html
[17:07] <balloons> sputnick, you are welcome. Ohh, is that old page still up? I should get that fixed
[17:07] <sputnick> I'm just in the process of learning it, so trying to follow the docs
[17:07] <balloons> https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/start/quality/ is the place to be ;-)
[17:08] <balloons> and https://developer.ubuntu.com/api/autopilot/python/1.5.0/ is the updated documentation
[17:11] <sputnick> wonderful, thanks
[17:14] <sputnick> It appears autopilot is based on python 3. Is this correct? upgrading left the autopilot command at 1.4 but added autopilot3 at 1.5
[17:16] <balloons> sputnick, yes.. autopilot3 and autopilot3-vis are the py3 versions
[17:16] <balloons> you should use them
[17:33] <sputnick> Using autopilot3 1.5 produces the same "dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)". Using autopilot3 vis I can connect to the process and drill down to find the object I'm looking for
[17:34] <sputnick> print_tree dumps a lot of info, but is then where the Traceback starts, instead of at select_single
[17:36] <sputnick> so it appears it is able to communicate over the dbus but it eventually times out...
[18:03] <balloons> sputnick, interesting.. So if vis works and print_tree works, it shold be working
[18:04] <balloons> what kind of application is it? Something I can try also or?
[18:05] <sputnick> not easily. I'll see about creating a reduced version
[18:06] <sputnick> It is a PySide application using Qt 4.8 + QtQuick/qml
[18:09] <sputnick> Looking further back in the output there's some kind of segfault:
[18:10] <balloons> sputnick, or logs if you could.. I'm thinking the checkbox folks may have used pyside
[18:10] <sputnick> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11117073/
[18:10] <balloons> otherwise, I don't know of any example
[18:11] <balloons> ohh and this is qt 4.8.. interesting
[18:12] <balloons> did anything change between 1.4 and 1.5?
[18:14] <sputnick> Nope, same error for both
[18:14] <sputnick> I'm working on a larger log...
[18:15] <balloons> ok, just checking. So can you run with -vv and paste the log?
[18:17] <sputnick> http://paste.ubuntu.com/11117192/
[18:18] <sputnick> I just pruned out a bunch of messages that are unrelated from my code
[18:19] <sputnick> The simple test case code: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11117224/
[18:20] <sputnick> It doesn't perform any functional tests yet since I hit this wall first
[18:43] <sputnick> balloons: the problem goes away when I reduce the code to a very simple PySide + qml app, so it does not seem to be the fault of the underlying Qt 4.8 + qml framework or autopilot
[18:43] <sputnick> worked in 1.4 and 1.5
[18:43] <sputnick> I'll have to investigate my app further
[18:45] <sputnick> thanks a lot for all the help balloons! If I uncover something that may be useful to others I'll let you know
[19:32] <balloons> sputnick, thanks for the followup!
[19:51] <sputnick> anytime ;-)
[19:52] <sputnick> Are you familiar with the following error: "QMetaProperty::read: Unable to handle unregistered datatype 'ItemIndexMethod' for property 'QGraphicsScene::itemIndexMethod'" ?
[19:53] <sputnick> balloons: the source of the problem seems to be a third party virtual keyboard I'm using and I think that error is related to the source... looking into it myself but thought I'd ask quickly
[20:15] <balloons> sputnick, no, not a familiar thing


[12:41] <PriceChild> "spanish" people in #ubuntu...
[12:47] <jrib> PriceChild: is your irc client possessed?
[12:47] <PriceChild> I typed a mute on deccawhatsit because of the pasting... he stopped and i forgot to clear the line... so when i replied to the next guy about port for ssh it did the mute anyway :(
[12:51] <PriceChild> I don't think he noticed though :P
[01:07] <PriceChild> * IntuitiveNipple has quit ("The only intuitive interface is the nipple; everything else is learned.")
[02:23] <Tm_T> bah
[02:23] <Tm_T> BAH
[02:25] <ubotu> __mikem called the ops in #ubuntu
[03:13] <Ju> Hi !
[03:14] <Ju> I've been accepted as a Ubuntu member 'long' time ago, and never asked for a ubuntu cloak, is it still possible ?
[03:15] <Ju> My lp account https://launchpad.net/~jrottenberg
[03:16] <PriceChild> Seveas, ^
[03:19] <PriceChild> Ju, he's probably sleeping but will hopefully read the backlog when he wakes up. He's the only one that can approve the cloaks for the time being sorry.
[03:21] <Ju> oh, no big deal :-) I can wait. no rush here
[03:31] <Tm_T> no, you can't wait, you have big need to wake up Seveas and poke him with pointy stick
[04:00] <PriceChild> !ubuntu
[04:00] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[04:01] <PriceChild> I guess its a page that's been removed from help. ....
[05:09] <cables> Is anyone here watching Punkunity in #ubuntu?
[05:14] <Punkunity> llo
[05:14] <nalioth> hi
[05:14] <Punkunity> i have aproblem
[05:15] <Punkunity> I think I am muted in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:15] <Punkunity> and i have no Idea why
[05:15] <nalioth> Punkunity: the ban is lifted
[05:15] <Punkunity> but it happened like a week ago, and now i registered my nick(i didnt know I had to) and still I cannot talk in #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:16] <Punkunity> ty sir
[05:16] <Punkunity> do u know why i was banned nalioth ???
[05:16] <nalioth> i do not
[05:16] <Punkunity> hmm...
[05:16] <nalioth> there is /msg ubotu coc and /msg ubotu guidelines if you want to brush up
[05:16] <Punkunity> brush up on what?
[05:17] <nalioth> why you may have been quieted
[05:17] <Punkunity> so
[05:17] <Punkunity> how do I quiet someone??
[05:18] <Punkunity> nalioth, it still says I am banned?? do i have to restart my client program??
 hello
[05:18] <Punkunity> * #ubuntu-offtopic :Cannot send to channel
[05:20] <Punkunity> nalioth, ???
[05:20] <Punkunity> n
[05:20] <nalioth> Punkunity: are you watching in #ubuntu-offtopic ?

[05:25] <Vorian> nalioth, can you cloak a newly ordained ubuntu member?
[05:25] <Vorian> and hello :)
[05:27] <nalioth> Vorian: depends
[05:28] <Vorian> he just was approved today
[05:28] <Vorian> https://launchpad.net/~boredandblogging
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> ah, cool
[05:29] <Vorian> yep, totally deserved it :)
[05:33] <nalioth> am i stuck in a cave? i've never heard of him
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> Does UWN work a lot
[05:33] <Vorian> he's a LoCo / Marketing fantizmo
[05:34] <Vorian> and yes, you are stuck in a cave.
[06:01] <beuno> nalioth: he's been doing most of the UWN itself for a month now
[07:58] <Madpilot> evening all.
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> hey
[08:01] <Madpilot> any Official Word on our new IRC council? Apparently something was decided upon at the Ubuntu Drinking Session, but the only mention is in jono's long blogpost...
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> No idea
[08:03] <nalioth> nothing mentioned yet (i've been asking)
[08:04] <Madpilot> presumably the mad Dutchman will have the Official Word first
[08:04] <Myrtti> have I recently said that I love all of you guys?
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> Maybe, but you can say it again :)
[08:04] <Myrtti> I love all of you guys!
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> speaking of the Mad Dutchman - Seveas, what's "meerendonk" mean?
[08:05] <Myrtti> it's nice to be employed because of Ubuntu
[08:06] <elkbuntu_> Myrtti, where are you employed?
[08:09] <Myrtti> Finnish Centre for Open Source Solutions
[08:09] <Myrtti> kinda like FLUG for companies
[08:23] <elkbuntu_> cool
[09:40] <mneptok> munh.
[09:41] <mneptok> i feel like someone kicked me as i slept.
[09:41] <maxamillion> mneptok: that's never good
[09:42] <mneptok> maxamillion: crossed 7 time zones. it happens. :)
[09:42] <maxamillion> ouch
[09:50] <Burgundavia> mneptok: were you at UDS?
[09:51] <mneptok> Burgundavia: nope.
[09:51] <Burgundavia> didn't think so
[09:51] <mneptok> Burgundavia: i'm in .ro for 2 weeks. so UDS would have been tough.
[09:51] <Burgundavia> ahh
[09:52] <mneptok> Etienne and Fabian repesented support this time
[09:52] <mneptok> +r
[09:53] <Madpilot> mneptok, you have competition in the "terrifying photograph" category: http://www.flickr.com/photos/8294638@N02/499351468/in/set-72157600219769319/
[09:53] <Burgundavia> right, went drinking with them
[09:57] <popey> hehe
[09:57] <popey> nice pic
[09:58] <mneptok> i wish i was better at Photoshopping semen stains.
[09:58] <Madpilot> @lart mneptok
[09:59] <mneptok> s/3\ weeks/3\ more\ weeks/
[03:53] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, Pici said: !g15 is <reply> For help on configuring your Logitech G15 keyboard, plase see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LogitechG15
[03:53] <ubotu> In #ubuntu-offtopic, Pici said: !g15 is <reply> For help on configuring your Logitech G15 keyboard, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LogitechG15
[03:54] <Pici> !logitechg15 and !g15tools should probably point to that too
[04:16] <elkbuntu> gnomefreak, one troll vote for him ;)
[04:17] <gnomefreak> yeah im getting that
[04:18] <gnomefreak> he beat me to it :(
[04:19] <elkbuntu> he'll be back elsewhere, just wait
[04:19] <gnomefreak> im sure of it
[07:01] <PriceChild> Seveas, did you get that message earlier from someone asking for a cloak?
[07:01] <Seveas> PriceChild, depends on who
[07:02] <Seveas> a few people askd
[07:02] <nalioth> PriceChild: he got it
[07:02] <PriceChild> Ok cool :)
[08:09] <ubotu> In #ubuntu, dj said: ubotu: where is "Copy Rendering" in the beryl manager?
[08:09] <gnomefreak> .win 15
[08:17] <PriceChild> .win 16
[08:17] <Amaranth> .win inf
[08:20] <PriceChild> you win :(
[08:20] <Amaranth> .win NaN
[08:22] <tonyyarusso> .lose at_window_switching
[08:24] <joejaxx> . anything looks like you are controlling a botnet :P
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> .flood joejaxx
[08:25] <joejaxx> lol
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> muahaha
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> (good thing the code's on LP!)
[08:27] <joejaxx> yeah
[08:43] <PriceChild> Heads up in #ubuntu
[08:47] <ompaul> get your +r ready
[08:48] <Pici> Probably something I cant see with joins/parts/nicks hidden
[08:48] <PriceChild> haha :)
[08:49] <PriceChild> I remember the nick BigToe...
[08:52] <PriceChild> !btlogin
[08:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about btlogin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:52] <PriceChild> %btlogin
[08:53] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: @btlogin
[08:53] <PriceChild> ss % works as well :)
[08:53] <Hobbsee> ahh, so it does
[08:54] <Hobbsee> last time i tried, it didnt.  or something
[08:54] <PriceChild> The guy isn't on the bt though... I could have sworn he was
[08:55] <PriceChild> grr
[08:55] <mc44> pretty rubbish wrong advice anyway :)
[08:56] <PriceChild> Could have at least made it plausible...
[08:56] <PriceChild> "how do i install this library?" - "reboot"
[09:34] <mitsuhiko> !staff
[09:34] <ubotu> Hey nalioth, jenda, rob, SportChick or ompaul! I could use a bit of your time :)
[09:35] <mitsuhiko> ups
[09:35] <mitsuhiko> Seveas: *grrr* :)
[09:35] <Seveas> HAH :)
[09:36] <mc44> Looks like Seveas being evil, nothing to see here :)
[09:36] <ompaul> ya
[09:37] <Seveas> no, mitsuhiko actually needed a staffer
[09:37] <ompaul> ahh
[09:37] <ompaul> well it appears there is one
[09:37] <Seveas> indeed
[09:37] <Seveas> now go and do your duty ;)
[09:37] <ompaul> mitsuhiko, sup?
[09:37] <mc44> Seveas: gosh I am sorry, I didnt mean to insinuate you were evil on occasion :P
[09:37] <ompaul> sir YES SIR
[09:38] <mitsuhiko> :D
[09:38] <ompaul> mc44, cos that would be inconsistant with the truth
[09:38] <ompaul> mitsuhiko, sup?
[09:38] <Seveas> mitsuhiko, ompaul is a staffer :)
[09:39] <ompaul> you know the guy with the inability to reboot his laptop to make the projector work
[09:39] <mitsuhiko> Seveas: well. the most interesting aspect of the whole misapprehension is that i never needed someone :)
[09:39] <mitsuhiko> that was yann2
[09:39] <ompaul> so what does yann2 want
[09:39] <Seveas> err,right
[09:40] <mitsuhiko> ompaul: expect a query
[09:40] <ompaul> ohh no, not a query
[09:40] <mitsuhiko> :)
[09:40] <ompaul> your chief weapons are queries etc
[09:45] <ompaul> Seveas, ping
[09:45] <ompaul> pm dude
[10:06] <d2dchat> hey i fixed it
[10:06] <d2dchat> please let me rejoin
[10:06] <d2dchat> any ops here?
[10:07] <ompaul> d2dchat, join me in ##ompaul
[10:07] <ompaul> for testing
[10:28] <Seveas> ompaul, if you don't mind bing useful, please cloak Ju
[10:29] <Ju> thx Seveas
[10:29] <ompaul> Ju, remember to auth whenyou join the network
[10:30] <ompaul> to make it work
[10:30] <Ju> I always do, more than once (I use bip) and auth with each client
[10:30] <ompaul> okay thats done I am out of there
[10:30] <Ju> thx
[10:31] <PriceChild> nalioth, you said that guy already got his cloak! :(
[11:26] <nalioth> PriceChild: no, i said the dutchman KNEW about the request
[11:26] <PriceChild> ahh ok :)
[11:27] <PriceChild> hehe... "the dutchman"
[11:30] <Hobbsee> the mad dutchman, yes
[11:30] <mc44> not the flying dutchman?
[11:31] <PriceChild> I wonder if he has that on hilight... and if not then he should
[11:31] <PriceChild> mc44, he was for a few hours before and after UDS
[11:31] <tonyyarusso> mc44: You're thinking of the flying nun ;P
[11:31] <mc44> the flying dutchnun? :)
[11:33] <PriceChild> Hello pradalover, can we help you?
[11:33] <pradalover> I am trying to install Ubuntu onto my computer..I have two hard drives one 80 g for windows xp and another 120 g for linux ...I am currently running Ubuntu off of my cd and its asking me to partition.....how do i do this
[11:34] <nalioth> pradalover: join #ubuntu please
[11:34] <pradalover> why did i have a feeling that would happen
[11:35] <Hobbsee> because you know that this is not a support channel.
[11:35] <pradalover> the Ubuntu channel is full of teenage brats
[11:35] <nalioth> pradalover: because you know you're asking in the wrong place?
[11:35] <pradalover> that won't help
[11:35] <nalioth> pradalover: then join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:35] <mc44> which is also not a support channel :P
[11:36] <pradalover> Is it really that hard to offer up some advice..I mean GIVE ME A BREAK
[11:37] <nalioth> no, but #ubuntu-offtopic does offer support
[11:37] <mc44> suggesting the people who would help you are teenage brats does not help your cause
[11:37] <LjL> pradalover: head to usenet for some anarchy. here it's IRC, we're only half anarchic, and you've got to use #ubuntu for support
[11:38] <pradalover> i wanna scream and cry
[11:39] <Hobbsee> it surprises me that you know about the varying ubuntu channels, but not how to partition, though
[11:39] <Hobbsee> "follow the instructions in the installer" is usually good advice
[11:39] <pradalover> i am an enigma to most
[11:39] <pradalover> thats because someone showed me
[11:40] <pradalover> once i am shown how to ...i usually don't forget
[11:40] <pradalover> but it takes days upon days to get someone to actually show me how
[11:41] <pradalover> make sense
[11:41] <nzk> Could I *please* get unbanned from Ubuntu? I have serious problems with my installation and its a horrible inconvenience to be banned.
[11:42] <pradalover> if my friend could remote to me he would help....but oh no ! something is wrong with my remote access too
[11:45] <pradalover> thus is one HUGE reason why women don't use linux
[11:45] <Hobbsee> nzk: you'd have to wait for Seveas
[11:46] <nzk> ...fine
[11:46] <nalioth> !patience > pradalover
[11:47] <Hobbsee> pradalover: you cant pull the women line here...
[11:47] <LjL> pradalover, i'm still not seeing you in any real Ubuntu channel. this channel is an administrative channel *only*, so you're not going to get any support here. join #ubuntu, or if you don't like the people there, find your way someplace you like
[11:47] <Hobbsee> pradalover: women have nothing to do with getting support, or not.
[11:48] <pradalover> Yes it does
[11:48] <gnomefreak> how?
[11:48] <pradalover> oh yes it does
[11:48] <Hobbsee> uh...
[11:48] <pradalover> I see it all the time
[11:49] <Hobbsee> besides, you dont have your real name, or anything, set to anything suggesting that you'd be a women
[11:49] <Hobbsee> hence you're rather genderless, in trying to get help.
[11:49] <pradalover> for some reason i think you men look at linux as a type of football enviroment or poker game
[11:50] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:50] <Hobbsee> besides, girls dont exist on the interweb.
[11:50] <mc44> fact
[11:50] <PriceChild> Hobbsee, they do if they have photos?
[11:50] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: no.  the men are men, the women are men, and the little girls are FBI agents.
[11:50] <PriceChild> :)
[11:51] <Hobbsee> pradalover: i'll have to say that it's an offense for you to call me a man, without you doing your research.  whcih then drops your credibility.
[11:52] <pradalover> are you a girl hobbsee
[11:52] <LjL> ask the FBI
[11:52] <Hobbsee> pradalover: no.  i keep my information in my /whois just for kicks.
[11:52] <Seveas> she sure hugs like a girl
[11:52] <Hobbsee> Seveas: define a girl-like-hug?
[11:53] <Seveas> Hobbsee, something a heterosexual man-like person will exprience as pleasant
[11:53] <Hobbsee> Seveas: right
[11:57] <pradalover> well i am not getting any help. Just lectured as usual.....weird
[11:57] <pradalover> gtg
[11:58] <Seveas> bye
[11:58] <mc44> ..weird
[11:58] <Hobbsee> dont come back...
[11:58] <Hobbsee> seriously....
[11:58] <Hobbsee> [07:56]  <Hobbsee> people, if you're going to pull the line of "i cant get support because i'm a women, you men all think that linux is a type of football enviroment or poker game..." or whatever, please do your research first, that the immediate people you're taking to *arent female*.  kthxbye.
[11:59] <Hobbsee> you're only *ever* allowed to pull the "females get it harder" line when they actually do - else it'd get used all the time.
[11:59] <Seveas> Hobbsee, we all know you secretly want to be a man anyway
[11:59] <Hobbsee> Seveas: heh
[11:59] <Seveas> *ouch*
[12:00] <mc44> Hobbsee: and Seveas always wanted to be a girl :)
[12:00] <PriceChild> vicious
[12:00] <Hobbsee> hehe
[12:00] <Hobbsee> of course, yes
[12:00] <PriceChild> with ponies
[12:00] <Hobbsee> no, Seveas just liked two girls hanging off him in the airport
[12:00] <mc44> hehe
[12:00] <Seveas> @pony mc44
[12:00] <Seveas> Hobbsee, that was indeed quite pleasurable :)
[12:00] <mc44> !ping
[12:01] <PriceChild> Have I missed a story here?
[12:01] <Hobbsee> Seveas: i think it was for all of us :P
[12:01] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: just elkbuntu and i in a cuddly mood - and Seveas being there
[12:01] <ubotu> No mc44 can't have a pony, Seveas!
[12:01] <ubotu> pong
[12:01] <Seveas> lagbotu
[12:02] <Seveas> omfg.... stupid thing on the news: police in a town in NL are handing out chocolate at the end of 'nights out' to keep people calm...
[12:03] <Hobbsee> haha
[12:03] <PriceChild> haha
[12:03] <PriceChild> That can only work.
[12:03] <Seveas> it works on chocaholics maybe
[12:04] <mc44> Chocolate liqueurs I hope
[12:04] <PriceChild> oh come on if someone offers you chocolate you're gonna be nice to them :)
[12:04] <vorian> hi Seveas, can you give approval for boredandblogging to get a cloak? (meberized yesterday)
[12:04] <PriceChild> and everyone likes chocolate
[12:04] <Hobbsee> mmm...chocolate
[12:04] <Seveas> vorian, that's been approved hours ago :)
[12:04] <Seveas> PriceChild, chocolate is nice
[12:05] <gnomefreak> Seveas: did you deal with nz_k yet.
[12:05] <Seveas> gnomefreak, loooooooong ago
[12:05] <Seveas> (as in: months)
[12:05] <mc44> Seveas: hes back -->
[12:05] <gnomefreak> he wanted you today
[12:05] <Seveas> don't want to touch him with a 10-foot pole now
[12:05] <gnomefreak> like 30 minutes ago
[12:06] <Hobbsee> he's still in #ubuntu+1 though
[12:06] <Seveas> and in here :)
[12:06] <Seveas> gnomefreak, try the bantracker
[12:06] <gnomefreak> @btlogin
[12:07] <Seveas> @btlogout gnomefreak
[12:07] <gnomefreak> oops
[12:07] <LjL> so evil
[12:07] <Seveas> so fake :)
[12:07] <gnomefreak> whats with the certs
[12:07] <Seveas> gnomefreak, btw, check your invites
[12:08] <Seveas> gnomefreak, certs, schmerts
[12:08] <Seveas> need to fix that
[12:08] <Seveas> actually, someone needs to do HTTP 1.2 and include STARTTLS
[12:09] <AfterDeath> I've heard there will be a flood in #ubuntu tonight, so keep an eye out; pm me if you've got questions
[12:09] <Seveas> he's probably the one planning the flood
[12:09] <Hobbsee> i'd bet on it, yes
[12:10] <Hobbsee> is that a klinable offense?
[12:11] <mc44> he has troll in his cloak :)
[12:11] <nalioth> Hobbsee: is what a klineable offense?
[12:11] <Seveas> nalioth, being Australian
[12:12] <Hobbsee> depends if he's actually creating the flood
[12:12] <Hobbsee> or a part of it
[12:12] <Seveas> ki{c,n}ky!
[12:12] <Hobbsee> Seveas: No kinky for you.
[12:12] <Seveas> you think :)
[12:13] <Hobbsee> i know.
[12:13] <Seveas> it's almost bedtime here
[12:13] <Hobbsee> at least not on irc for you.
[12:13] <Seveas> true
[12:13] <Seveas> but IRL it's better
[12:13] <Hobbsee> well, duh
[12:13] <LjL> Seveas: you mean like being tied by CAT5 cables while trying to find out where the network outage is precisely?
[12:14] <Seveas> LjL, I prefer powercables. Stronger :)
[12:15] <Seveas> and network outages are usually quick tofind.  Fortunately the men in here are a bit more civil
[12:20] <Hobbsee> heh
[12:21] <Seveas> I'd say left core and right core
[12:21] <Seveas> and a sexy 2 gig of ram
[12:21] <mc44> rawr
[12:21] <Hobbsee> nalioth: @bas7-montrealak-1088776071.dsl.bell.ca would be a problem IP, assuming you've not already seen it
[12:22] <Seveas> mc44, you should see my imap server :)
[12:22] <mc44> Seveas: you can show it to me anytime :P
[12:22] <Seveas> or the hot netapp with several dozen TB of space
[12:23] <nalioth> picking on the canadians again, Hobbsee ?  :P
[12:23] <Hobbsee> nalioth: :P
[12:23] <Hobbsee> nalioth: i'm assuming you're joking, adn that you've already seen #ubuntu
[12:23] <PriceChild> I wonder why they only join/parted....
[12:23] <Hobbsee> PriceChild: a warning.
[12:23] <PriceChild> hmm ok
[12:23] <Hobbsee> i'd guess
[12:25] <nalioth> Hobbsee: klined
[12:25] <Hobbsee> nalioth: great
[12:26] <Hobbsee> Seveas: this one?  http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t164/sirbartonslady/?action=view&current=helpdeskwarning.png
[12:26] <Seveas> probably futile though, they tend to have lots of hosts
[12:26] <nalioth> not guaranteeing anything, Hobbsee but still
[12:26] <Hobbsee> nalioth: of course


[02:06] <ubptgbot> <Luo Smart> @fredldotme [You need to wipe on first installations], Thank you very much, I made it😁
[03:14] <ubptgbot> levortian was added by: levortian
 Hello, sorry to be a bother, does anyone know how to use this:https://github.com/nvertigo/firmware-3t to update the firmware of my oneplus3? I am trying to get ubuntu touch with GSI/halium9...but I don't really know how to go about updating the firmware
 I downloaded a flashable .zip from here https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/oneplus3-modem-firmware/ hoping this will work
 @christos [I downloaded a flashable .zip from here https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/andro …], @vince1171 might be able to help you, I think its much easier than you think. BTW we have a full port, why use GSI?
 Because video & the fingerprint work and it is said that the GSI is smoother as well.. is that not the case/
 gsi is much older i think
 the v10 GSI I downloaded says 2020-10-16
 has the official port progressed much further than the GSI?
 Can I mark multiple episodes as listened to at once?
 (Podbird)
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/uID40lb7.png
 hold on a episode, select multiple, then the check box top right to mark as listened
[12:09] <ubptgbot> M was added by: M
 @mateosalta [<reply to media>], And how do I mark all entries at once?
 looks like not implemented
 @christos [has the official port progressed much further than the GSI?], Idk but the official rootfs progresses every day nearly ;)
 hm, so I should install the official port?
 @christos [hm, so I should install the official port?], i recomend trying it out :)
 @christos [has the official port progressed much further than the GSI?], The gsi use the android 9 hal so some features are more advanced than on the official port using halium 7 … On the official port, video playback is still a mess and video recording is bugging... And unfortunately I'm a bit stuck with those issues … Thanks to Marius
[12:12] <ubptgbot> , fingerprint scanner can now work with some tweaks on my device, but it'll not land on all devices soon because the code need to be cleaned and I don't have much time currently :/ … Otherwise, I never tried GSI on the op3 so I can't tell
 @christos [hm, so I should install the official port?], Yes you can … Please note there is currently a bug with recovery … During the installation, it'll fails saying to check the cable, it has nothing to do with the cable … If it occur, I have no other advice than "restart the installation" … It's a VERY annoying bug … I know where it
[12:17] <ubptgbot> come from and I'll try to fix it ASAP … @Flohack fyi, the "tmpfs mounting on /cache" hell occurs on halium 7 too...
 Sorry for the inconveniences in advance
 Does the alarm work even when the phone is turned off?
 @christos [hm, so I should install the official port?], [Edit] Yes you can … Please note there is currently a bug with recovery … During the installation, it may fail saying to check the cable, it has nothing to do with the cable … If it occur, I have no other advice than "restart the installation" … It's a VERY annoying bug … I know wh
[12:18] <ubptgbot> ere it come from and I'll try to fix it ASAP … @Flohack fyi, the "tmpfs mounting on /cache" hell occurs on halium 7 too...
 @vince1171 alright, I will try out the official port, I have encountered that bug when I installed ut on my broken op3, but now I have a working op3 for 30euros so I was thinking maybe trying out the GSI, but maybe it is best to have the OTAs as well. Lol what inconveniences, you do what you can do and all everyone else can do is be than
[12:20] <ubptgbot> kful
 @shinyhairsmylifeambition [Does the alarm work even when the phone is turned off?], when powered down, obviously not :) when locked/sleeping yes it will wake up the phone and the alarm will ring
 @vince1171 [Yes you can … Please note there is currently a bug with recovery … During the instal …], I can help you fixing this but its interesting, I dont have that problem on angler
 I hope treble-izing my phone won't come at odds with the op3 port, will know in a bit
 @matv1 [when powered down, obviously not :) when locked/sleeping yes it will wake up the …], having said that, I notice you posting in the PinePhone channel as well. If you are talking about that device, all bets are off wrt deep sleep and wake from suspend
 @Flohack [I can help you fixing this but its interesting, I dont have that problem on angl …], I would appreciate the help thanks ^^ … I'm a bit limited in time currently unfortunately
 @matv1 [when powered down, obviously not :) when locked/sleeping yes it will wake up the …], The phone will then turn on by itself.
 @mathjis … My Xiamoi does
 @vince1171 [I would appreciate the help thanks ^^ … I'm a bit limited in time currently unfort …], have you got time today or tomorrows eve?
 [Edit] @mathjis … My Xiaomi does
 @Flohack [have you got time today or tomorrows eve?], Maybe tomorrow … Illi let you know asap
 @vince1171 [Maybe tomorrow … Illi let you know asap], thx
 I hope we can mergen open PRs soon, then things will be easier
 @shinyhairsmylifeambition [The phone will then turn on by itself.], that is probally a very ardvanced rtc, we dont have anything like that, that also means some part of the phone is still 'on'
 ɪɴᴛᴇʀᴇꜱᴛɪɴɢ ᴡʜᴇɴ ɪ ᴅᴇᴄɪᴅᴇᴅ ᴛᴏ ɪɴᴠᴇꜱᴛ ɪɴ ᴏɴʟɪɴᴇ ꜱᴇʀᴠɪᴄᴇꜱ ᴡɪᴛʜ $700, ɪᴛ ᴡᴀꜱ ᴍᴏʀᴇ ᴏꜰ ᴀ ɢᴀᴍʙʟᴇ ꜰᴏʀ ᴍᴇ, ɴᴏᴡ ɪᴍᴀɢɪɴᴇ the ꜱᴜʀᴘʀɪꜱᴇ ᴡʜᴇɴ ɪ ɢᴏᴛ ᴀ ᴘʀᴏꜰɪᴛꜱ ᴏꜰ $7400 ɪɴ 5ᴅᴀʏꜱ ᴛʜʀᴏᴜɢʜ  please click on the link below  … 👇👇👇👇 … https://t.me/joinchat/Dt
 sorry again, the ubports installer screen says
 [Edit] sorry again, the ubports installer screen says: Rebooting, your device is being rebooted...
 and my phone is stuck at the bootloader...is this normal?
 ok, the problem was my udev rules and apparently the appimage had ticked do not check for udev, that was why I was stuck, now that I've corrected this issue and reloaded the udev rules it seems like it's progressing ok
 @shinyhairsmylifeambition [@mathjis … My Xiaomi does], some devices can do this yes, with Android. but i don't think it will work with UT. someone would have to do the work to make it happen
 @dohbee [some devices can do this yes, with Android. but i don't think it will work with …], 🖐
[14:28] <ubptgbot> <Geld - Stop bullying Stallman!> https://m.soundcloud.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch-qa-episode-99 … Why SoundCloud? … I can't seem to find a Download link. … Do I really have to use third party software to get the audio only version?
[14:29] <ubptgbot> <Geld - Stop bullying Stallman!> [Edit] https://m.soundcloud.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch-qa-episode-99 … Why SoundCloud? … I can't seem to find a Download link. … Do I really have to use third party software to get the audio only version off from SoundCloud?
 It plays for me in Morph.
 So that would be a 'no, you don't'. 🙂
 It has an RSS feed: feeds.soundcloud.com/users/soundcloud:users:317476118/sounds.rss
 youtube-dl LINk
 [Edit] youtube-dl LINK
[15:04] <ubptgbot> <Geld - Stop bullying Stallman!> I've used NewPipe. … Thanks for using free and open source solutions 👍
 @Geld - Stop bullying Stallman! [I've used NewPipe. … Thanks for using free and open source solutions 👍], I'm having trouble reading the inflection in this sentence. Are you being sarcastic?
 If so and you can host the hours and hours of audio on our SoundCloud, with an RSS feed, Wayne doesn't complain to me once about it being hard to upload, you do it with entirely free and open source software, and it'll cost $150 a year, sold.
 How can I install UBtouch on nexus 7 2012 wifi ? Any Way or old files with anyone ?
 [Edit] How can I install UBtouch on nexus 7 2012 wifi ? Any Way or old files with anyone ? I would like to test it
 Sorry, the Nexus 7 2012 is not supported
 But is there any way or using any old files ?
 I've tried
 No
 Closest I got was mir crashing lmao
 Someone tried halium
 They got to: nothing
 Then let that tablet gather dust in my drawer 😢
 No! Postmarketos has it mainlined!
 You can use that on it!
 Will try that then, thx
[15:31] <ubptgbot> <Geld - Stop bullying Stallman!> @UniversalSuperBox [I'm having trouble reading the inflection in this sentence. Are you being sarcas …], Yes. I was being sarcastic. … I follow UBports via RSS by … https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-news-1/feed … Actually. It was childish of me to even make a comment. I usually ignore such things. … It just surprised
[15:31] <ubptgbot>  me that there's no download link. I guess bad habit of expectation from other podcasts. … You know... I would assume you guys would put up a good example. … Whatever.  Are you being sarcas …], [Edit] Yes. I was being sarcastic. … I follow UBports via RSS by … https://ubports.com/blog/ubports-news-1/feed … Actually. It was childish of me to even make a comment. I usually ignore such things. … It just su
[15:32] <ubptgbot> rprised me that there's no download link. I guess bad habit of expectation from other podcasts. … You know... I would assume you guys would put up a good example of using some more free services even at a bit of a cost.  … Whatever. If it works for you then ok.
 is the lost connection bug worse with .appimage? I have been trying with appimage and can't move past it
 @Geld - Stop bullying Stallman! [Yes. I was being sarcastic. … I follow UBports via RSS by … https://ubports.com/blo …], Hey, I'm always open to contributions. We've got a team of people who make the Ubuntu Touch Q&A possible and available on many platforms. If you'd like to join them by providing FOSS hosting for the audio, I'd
[15:32] <ubptgbot>  appreciate it.
 But right now you're passive-aggressively asking me to spend more of my time to meet your needs for a free audio show that I spend hours on, and I find that quite rude.
[15:34] <ubptgbot> <Geld - Stop bullying Stallman!> @UniversalSuperBox [But right now you're passive-aggressively asking me to spend more of my time to …], I'll be responsible of my actions and admit to be rude and say sorry to you.
[15:34] <ubptgbot> <Geld - Stop bullying Stallman!> I'm sorry.
[15:35] <ubptgbot> <Geld - Stop bullying Stallman!> I appreciate your hard work to improve Ubuntu Touch. … I'll listen to the audio only Q&A later.
 Thank you. Offer's still open if you can build up something that works like SC but isn't.
 I hope you enjoy, but please remember the price :P
 [Edit] I hope you enjoy, but please remember the price of the production :P
[15:39] <ubptgbot> <Geld - Stop bullying Stallman!> @UniversalSuperBox [I hope you enjoy, but please remember the price of the production :P], Can you tell me the original size of the audio file? … Ripped version from SoundCloud is 42.73MB at 128kbps mp3
 I don't know what Wayne uploaded originally, sorry
 @wayneoutthere got the edited mp3 handy for Q&A 99?
[15:43] <ubptgbot> <Geld - Stop bullying Stallman!> I'm just curious about the original file size to estimate data storage and traffic requirements for let's say legacy (past episodes) + 100 next episodes
 @amyosx [No! Postmarketos has it mainlined!], Can you pls link me to Installation instructions as I am unable to find that device on official page.
 wiki.postmarketos.org
 Pm if you need more help
 @Geld - Stop bullying Stallman! [I'm just curious about the original file size to estimate data storage and traff …], well, the individually recorded audio files are .wav's and they're 1.7GB zipped :P
 Still waiting for the mp3 to process
 @amyosx [Pm if you need more help], K,thx
 @Geld - Stop bullying Stallman! [I'm just curious about the original file size to estimate data storage and traff …], Unedited mp3 is 53MB.
[15:49] <ubptgbot> <Geld - Stop bullying Stallman!> Noted. … Saved. … Not promising anything. … I'll look at some options.
 No worries. What we've got going right now is fine as far as I'm concerned, but I'd be happy for help if it doesn't meet everyone's needs.
 @UniversalSuperBox [@wayneoutthere got the edited mp3 handy for Q&A 99?], huh?  i do who needs it?
 How large is it?
 not so huge
 Don't need it right now, thanks. Someone was just asking about sizes for rehosting.
 32mb
 Oh interesting. What's the file type?
 mp3
 Wonder how it gets larger after Soundcloud processing
 You can't add more sound
 ....
 that is indeed mysterious maybe they uncompress and awesome-fy it
 Hope not, that'd just be making lower quality audio
 i'm all about lower quality
 @wayneoutthere [that is indeed mysterious maybe they uncompress and awesome-fy it], Brb naming a magisk module that
 @wayneoutthere [i'm all about lower quality], FLAC gang here
 FLAC it! FLAC it all!
 bye
 @wayneoutthere [i'm all about lower quality], Well since you're here, would it be better for you to receive individual wav files for each presenter? We can do that now.
 (as of one week ago)
 Lol
 It's pretty cool. Streamyard is expensive but certainly worth the money. I couldn't do video without it. 1.5mbps gang.
 (yes that's a lowercase b)
 will a previouis version of the ubports installer install the last OTA 16?
 I'm thinking of using an older one as I cannot move past the "connection to device lost" bug
 @UniversalSuperBox [It's pretty cool. Streamyard is expensive but certainly worth the money. I could …], millibits?
 @christos [will a previouis version of the ubports installer install the last OTA 16?], yes. any version of the installer just installs the latest UT image in the selected channel
 @UniversalSuperBox [Wonder how it gets larger after Soundcloud processing], hmm, isn't there a button on soundcloud where you or wayne can click that makes all the ubports audio files there downloadable on the web page?
 I don't understand how it is that I cannot seem to get the installer to work on my op3
 @dohbee [hmm, isn't there a button on soundcloud where you or wayne can click that makes …], I think it needs a signin
 @christos [I don't understand how it is that I cannot seem to get the installer to work on …], @vince1171 has reported working on it. It might not just be you.
[16:38] <ubptgbot> <Dolinta Cristian> Hi all, only for me pure maps not detecting location correctly, device bacon. When i move the map are moved and location cursor, try to reinstall pap, dont help.
 @UniversalSuperBox it's just that a few months ago I encountered the bug once or twice, restarted the process and it worked, whereas now it won't stop bugging
[16:46] <ubptgbot> <Dolinta Cristian> [Edit] Hi all, only for me pure maps not detecting location correctly, device bacon. When i move the map are moved and location cursor, try to reinstall app, dont help.
 wow, I don't know how but it worked! - autorotation doesn't seem to be working though I am not sure whether that is on ubutu touch or on the oneplus3
 My friend has been back f issues
 [Edit] My friend has been having issues
 Lmao
 With OP3 installation
 I don't know if it was but after a lot of tries I tried installing edge and then stable
 but probably it was just a fluke
 does anyone know if there is an app or way (perhaps via cronjob) to set a radio stream url as alarm?
 there is not any support for launching an app as an alarm action currently
 (and no support for apps to start/run in background)
 i don't know if there's any way to cheat around that in a reasonable manner either
 @dohbee [i don't know if there's any way to cheat around that in a reasonable manner eith …], Once confinement goes out the window, anything can happen I suppose. But in theory if people can make custom launchers, it’s only that much farther to have that launcher launch apps or scripts on its own depending on set conditions. The ‘auto-
[19:38] <ubptgbot> launcher’ would have to be kept running to monitor the conditions though.
 @YougoChats [Once confinement goes out the window, anything can happen I suppose. But in theo …], alarms are special. i am pretty certain that cron does not work with the Android RTC stuff to properly trigger things, for example
 and media-hub won't start playing a stream if an app isn't running. but sure, you could install mplayer or something inside a libertine container and try to run from a cron in there
 but i would expect things won't work well :)
 Tying it into existing infrastructure is a whole can of worms. The app would have to implement its own scheduling system
 (alarms not firing on x86 was actually a problem we had to fix with repowerd at one point back before the great calamity)
 @YougoChats [Tying it into existing infrastructure is a whole can of worms. The app would hav …], apps trying to implement their own scheduling is indeed a can of worms, that consumes batteries
 It all comes back to ‘reasonable’ yes.
 aah, alrlight. Does anyone know how I can tell if no rotation is a hardware or software issue?
 though I suppose it being a software issue is much more probable no?
 Go back to android stock?
 hm yes I suppose that is my last option
 what device is it?
 oneplu3
 [Edit] oneplus3
 ohhh
 sorry guys for my endless questions
 @christos [sorry guys for my endless questions], Its fine
 We are here to help
 I remember on my broken oneplus3 that I installed ut months ago rotation worked, but it could be a regression since there have been updates right?
 I suppose I will have to go back to android, fuck why I didn't think to test that before
 @christos [I remember on my broken oneplus3 that I installed ut months ago rotation worked, …], Unlikely
 @christos [I remember on my broken oneplus3 that I installed ut months ago rotation worked, …], Rotation is supposed to work
[20:36] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> How to unistall anbox? Thanx
[20:45] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> @Ted Rendol [How to unistall anbox? Thanx], First, remove all your apps via the anbox (Android) settings. Than follow this guide: https://xray2000.gitlab.io/anbox-unstall/
 @Steve Kueffer [First, remove all your apps via the anbox (Android) settings. Than follow this g …], first, run `anbox-tool disable`
[21:01] <ubptgbot> Maritoni Hatzidis was added by: Maritoni Hatzidis
[21:02] <ubptgbot> * lpotter waves
 oh hi @lpotter
 just got a pinephone :) so I am back
 nice
 @lpotter [just got a pinephone :) so I am back], Nice which country?
 @lpotter [just got a pinephone :) so I am back], I'm thinking of buying one but not sure that dev supports indian lte bands
 Australia
 @lpotter [Australia], Which addition
 beta, the latest
 How much it cast ?
 @D4R1IN9 [I'm thinking of buying one but not sure that dev supports indian lte bands], https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php?title=PinePhone_Carrier_Support
 @lpotter [beta, the latest], I meant mobian manjaro or kde
 $200 AUD
 @lpotter [$200 AUD], With tax included
 came with kde
 ?
 @D4R1IN9 [I meant mobian manjaro or kde], they are all manjaro plasma now
 @dohbee [they are all manjaro plasma now], Noise
 Manjaro is my first choice
[21:06] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> @Steve Kueffer [First, remove all your apps via the anbox (Android) settings. Than follow this g …], Only system-default apps remain. …   anbox-tool disable … sudo mount -o rw, remount / … sudo rm -rf ~ / anbox-data / ~ / .local / share / applications / anbox / … Apps are still on the menu. Admittedly they don’t work but they are still
[21:06] <ubptgbot>  there.
 have yet to get mobile networking connected.. but at least I can fiddle with sensors again
 @Ted Rendol [Only system-default apps remain. …   anbox-tool disable … sudo mount -o rw, remount …], uh i hope you didn't type things like that
 with the spaces between and whatnot
 @dohbee [https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php?title=PinePhone_Carrier_Support], India still not in their list
 @D4R1IN9 [India still not in their list], there is one entry for india; but the link to the modem specs is there, so you can check the frequencies listed in the spec sheet, with what the carriers use there
[21:07] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> @dohbee [uh i hope you didn't type things like that], What is wrong ?
 @Ted Rendol [What is wrong ?], you would be removing a lot more if you ran that spaces between slashes and names like that
 @dohbee [there is one entry for india; but the link to the modem specs is there, so you c …], Here some really serious shot going on with 4g and volte my sim uses different band for internet and another band for volte calls
[21:15] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> @dohbee [you would be removing a lot more if you ran that spaces between slashes and name …], I performed the rm command without error - correctly according to the instructions, the anbox does not work. I need to remove the icon from the menu. At least I think so :)
[21:18] <ubptgbot> <Maritoni Hatzidis> https://bit.ly/3xNsdPQ … ＡＭＡＺＩＮＧ! ＥＬＯＮ ＭＵＳＫ ＧＩＶＥＡＷＡＹ ＣＲＹＰＴＯ!
[21:20] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> sudo rm -rf ~/anbox-data/ ~/.local/share/applications/anbox/    dont removing android app links from UT menu that is problem i think
 @Ted Rendol [sudo rm -rf ~/anbox-data/ ~/.local/share/applications/anbox/    dont removing an …], did you reboot or pull to refresh in app drawer after?
[21:33] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> @dohbee [did you reboot or pull to refresh in app drawer after?], Yes i do it
[21:35] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/ukx0X5Ac.png
 how do I get the raw photo from the camera app? I know the oneplus3 in android can do that, I thought I had seen somewhere that you could get the raw image instead of jpg
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/AYsN39cd.webp
 @popescu_sorin [<reply to media>], Long time no see
 hello @UniversalSuperBox
 yes. kinda busy with work
 @popescu_sorin [hello @UniversalSuperBox], Did you, uh, mean to send that here?
 no :D
 wrong window
 ah alright hten
 thanks
 Well, good to see you. It's been over a year!
 Still been following your channel
 time flies, i didn't post any new video in a while
 last video 4 months ago
 i did however update to OTA15
 looking good
 OTA16 will probably be even better
 We're already up to 16 :D
 oh :D i missed 16
 when was 16 released?
 March 15
 yep totally missed it
 btw. is Marius ok?
 he said he is homeless now (on twitter)
 was that a joke?
 We've talked since that tweet. He's alright for now but doing a bit of a scramble.
 😐
 A minor detail - but are new splash screens going.to come for File Manager and Media Player in OTA-17?  Seems they are the only core apps without updated splash at this point. @cibersheep ?
 [Edit] A minor detail - but are new splash screens going to come for File Manager and Media Player in OTA-17?  Seems they are the only core apps without updated splash at this point. @cibersheep ?
 @TotalSonic [A minor detail - but are new splash screens going to come for File Manager and M …], They should be a pending MR, maybe?
 Mhm interesting
 [Edit] Mhm interesting ah found it … https://gitlab.com/ubports/apps/filemanager-app/-/merge_requests/80
 Media player should have already the splash, isn't it?
[22:39] <ubptgbot> wouter182 was added by: wouter182
 @cibersheep [Media player should have already the splash, isn't it?], nope
 unless very recent?
 (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/7QNN09eH.png
 @mateosalta [unless very recent?], Since august 2020? … https://github.com/ubports/mediaplayer-app/pull/12
 @lpotter [have yet to get mobile networking connected.. but at least I can fiddle with sen …], At the moment we try to get the sensors on the pinephone working with sensorfw. Your name seems familiar to a lot of commits to that code. Please join https://t.me/utonpine where we try to figure out how to connect the sensors on the pinephone
[22:51] <ubptgbot>  to sensorfw.
 @wouter182 [At the moment we try to get the sensors on the pinephone working with sensorfw. …], yup. that would be me!
 @cibersheep [Since august 2020? … https://github.com/ubports/mediaplayer-app/pull/12], hm, wonder why it doesnt show. im on dev
 @mateosalta [hm, wonder why it doesnt show. im on dev], arm64?


[05:57] <ajw1980> hello
[06:03] <ajw1980> Is anyone around?
[06:05] <fabbione> sort of
[06:06] <ajw1980> i've installed dapper on an itanium 1 machine and gnome-session seg faults.
[06:09] <fabbione> ajw1980: dunno.. i use my Itanium 2 as server
[06:09] <fabbione> never executed gnome there i think
[06:09] <fabbione> or at least i can't remember if i did
[06:10] <ajw1980> yeah, i kind of figured itaniums weren't used as workstations often.
[06:17] <fabbione> mine is a ZX2000 ... it has gfx and so on. i just don't have space to plug monitor and goodies
[06:17] <fabbione> i recall it was installed as Ubuntu desktop when i got it
[06:17] <fabbione> but i don't remember if it was dapper or breezy
[06:17] <fabbione> and i did login once
[06:18] <fabbione> ajw1980: file a bug anyway.. it might be that lamont will look into it
[06:18] <fabbione> best would be to see if it still happens in edgy
[06:23] <ajw1980> ok.  i'll file a bug and try edgy, too.
[10:59] <tmarble> fabbione: did you see my e-mail?  I basically went back to "install the base system packages" and continued
[11:00] <tmarble> NOTE: this was not started from fresh with today's boot.img from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/main/installer-sparc/current/images/sparc64/netboot/2.6/
[11:00] <tmarble> if you think that's important, I can try it again


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[09:09] <santa_> good morning everyone
[10:08] <santa_> acheronuk: where are the 5.45 packages? I don't find them even in ninjas ppas
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[10:24] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[10:33] <acheronuk> santa_: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ubuntu/plasma
[10:33] <acheronuk> badly named now that has the most space
[10:41] <santa_> acheronuk: can't we just use the regular ppa's?
[10:47] <acheronuk> santa_: It was a test build, and putting it there means can avoid people (a) grabbing it too soon and (b) avoid renaming tars. if it looks good later in the week, I will probably copy over
[10:49] <acheronuk> santa_: plus want to keep the other ppas for maybe now doing fixes of 5.44 for bionic and bps
[10:54] <santa_> acheronuk: fine, but we already have a workflow for (b) which is just appending 'a' to the upstream version, thing which you will need to do anyway if there's a tarball respin and you need to reupload to the ninjas ppa
[10:56] <santa_> just sayin
[10:56] <acheronuk> only if I upload it there. which I may not.
[10:57] <santa_> ok
[10:58] <santa_> talking about test rebuilds I got my server (area51) up this monday again, I got some autopkgtrollings here: http://gpul.grupos.udc.es/build-status/buildstatus_ubuntu-exp2/ubuntu-exp2_status_frameworks.html
[10:58] <acheronuk> I take you point, but then again on sunday I was just building them for the hell of it, to see how it went. so popped them in there in case
[10:59] <acheronuk> santa_: great. thanks :)
[10:59] <santa_> ack, no prob, I have just fixed in git a kconfigwidgets issue
[10:59] <acheronuk> thanks
[11:04] <santa_> the bad news is that now I have an "unpaid" case on ebay due to that graphic card adventure
[11:05]  * santa_ goes to the bank to be robbed
[12:51] <ripper17> kubuntu 18.04 will come with KDE Applications 17.12, right? Will those be updated later to 18.04 or will I need to add backports for that to happen?
[12:51] <ripper17> (X-post from #kubuntu)
[12:55] <blaze> even with backports nothing is guaranteed
[13:07] <blaze> plasma and frameworks are highest priority, also plasma 5.13 needs Qt 5.10.1 at least
[13:07] <blaze> so there's plenty of work there
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[14:50] <santa_> ripper17: you would need to add backports, since including kde apps 18.04 for bionic would require us to have a time machine. however even with backports, keep in mind that our speed packaging applications is still not so good as our speed with frameworks and plasma due to some technical issues we are having with the CI system, we will be working on that in the next months and hopefully the kde apps packaging speed will improve
[14:52] <ripper17> santa_: time /speed isn't really important, so that's not a problem. I'm unsure if our sysadmin will even add the backports ppa. i just found a small issue today on Kubuntu beta and was wondering if this will be still present in the final version
[14:52] <santa_> ripper17: aha, which issue?
[14:53] <santa_> (if you have time to explain)
[14:54] <ripper17> santa_: when you add a remote location (e.g. "fish://foo/path") to the "Places" panel in dolphin, it will appear in that section. In filepicker-dialog (e.g. when saving a file from Kate), the remote location does not appear in "Places" but under "Remote locations" (translated from German, term might be incorrect) - so the shortcut is available, it's just in a slightly different location
[14:54] <ripper17> arojas in #plasma said that dolphin will be update in KDE Applications 18.04 to have the same behaviour as filedialog-picker (if I understood him/her correctly)
[14:55] <ripper17> "<arojas> ripper17: they will be consistent when dolphin 18.04 is released"
[14:55] <santa_> so we would have the desired behaviour in backports
[14:56] <santa_> if it's a simple change safe to include in the packaging patching we could try patch the 17.x version but I can't promise you anything
[15:32] <ripper17> santa_: it's probably not a simple change: https://phabricator.kde.org/R318:da6f8fe0862585287153f0d90e19eab0b34bfbef - but I wouldn't worry too much about it either, as I said it's a minor inonsistency IMHO (good that it is fixed, but not essential to have)
[20:31] <santa_> ripper17: it seems very big indeed, definitely I wouldn't patch that in the packaging
[23:11] <tsimonq2> Filed the Debian ITP for cutelyst.
[23:12] <tsimonq2> I plan on working on it, hopefully being able to upload it tonight.
[23:12] <tsimonq2> Then I'll work with a Debian Developer to upload it to Debian, so it can then be synced.