[15:27] <Arabus> Hi all, I am running Ubuntu 10.04 and want to change the regional formats using the gnome-language-selector. When I do this and switch from english to german the menu goes graz for a millisecond then switches back to english. anyone have a guess or hint for me?
[15:27] <G0R> tbearden: if you have it as /foo, it's going to think foo is a directory.  If you have it as /home/me/foo, it will think it is a file.  I just mention it as it seems you have an issue with it
[15:28] <schnuffle> Vustom: Okay, when you go to the connection settings you can choose the manual proxy config option, Then you can set  proxy adresses for HTTP,SSL,FTP and SOCKS-Host. Make sure that the HTTP-Proxy field is empty
[15:28] <Fustigation> Hi. Can someone look at this please: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1816725
[15:29] <jbwiv> guys, after adding my user to a new group, how can I get that group setting to take effect without logging out/back in from Unity?
[15:29] <tbearden> edbian: at the beginning of the script, i have '#! /bin/sh'.  is that what u mean?
[15:29] <Vustom> schnuffle: All are empty besides Socks host: which has localhost then 42280 for the Port:
[15:29] <kamidi> that seems to be another ntfs partition, not partition where windows is installed
[15:30] <Fustigation> I installed Ubuntu with the installer though?
[15:30] <Fustigation> I've got both Windows and Ubuntu
[15:30] <earthling> G0R: seriously what did u say  to tbearden ?
[15:31] <schnuffle> Vustom: Hmm, can test it right now, I'm only sure it worked for me in Firefox
[15:31] <G0R> earthling: he seemed to be confused between referencing a file and a directory - sorry to not be clear
[15:31] <tbearden> i'm not a linux guru, i'm having a little trouble wrapping my head around the concept of 'PATH'
[15:31] <earthling> G0R: were u talking about how touch command works ?
[15:31] <edbian> tbearden: That is correct, you  need that.  Open a shell, type echo $PATH    that is the path variable.
[15:31] <G0R> earthling: no, i was not
[15:32] <earthling> G0R: ohhh.. my mistake then.. sorry...
[15:32] <Vustom> schnuffle: I hope I can get this fixed, I dread using Ubuntu now because I can't use my Proxy. D:
[15:32] <Fustigation> Nobody can help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1816725
[15:32] <schnuffle> tbearden: PATH gives the system all the pathes where to look for executables, so if you have PATH=/bin:/usr/bin and you call myprog it will look in those two locations for it
[15:32] <cntb> can I recover MBR after windows xp install https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows with a pendrive install ?
[15:32] <G0R> earthling: np :)
[15:32] <tbearden> edbian: when i type '#PATH', i get 'PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games'
[15:33] <cntb> pici ?
[15:33] <dr_willis> cntb,  you shoudl be able to
[15:33] <schnuffle> Fustigation: what means same drive? same harddisk but different partition?
[15:33] <tbearden> schnuffle: ty, i'll keep that in mind
[15:33] <Pici> cntb: sorry, I'm busy.
[15:33] <Fustigation> Yeah it's on same HD.
[15:33] <edbian> tbearden: Yes, someone suggested you make sure it's correct.  Perhaps you should read about what the $PATH variable does.   http://www.codecoffee.com/tipsforlinux/articles/030.html
[15:33] <schnuffle> Fustigation: but on a different partition?
[15:34] <Fustigation> I believe so
[15:34] <schnuffle> Fustigation: and I can't see your picture as I don't have a login to the forum
[15:34] <Fustigation> Give me a second I'll upload it.
[15:35] <Fustigation> http://i.imgur.com/wWhQp.png
[15:36] <qbert_> how can I bind "Windows-Left" , to move my current window to my left monitor ?  Readme's ?
[15:36] <schnuffle> Fustigation: Open a terminal and paste the outpput of  sudo fdisk -l and mount
[15:36] <cntb> dr_willis, which download from http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/ should I forcefully use alternate or desktop install can help me
[15:37] <tbearden> edbian: i'm not understanding why the script will run when i manually execute it but not automatically via 'rc1.d' when in single user mode
[15:37] <dr_willis> cntb,  in theory either one can. since both can get to the console/command line. BUt you prob. want the Desktop version so you can use the GUI and follow the guides based on you having the gui version
[15:37] <Fustigation> schnuffle: So type in sudo fdisk -l? It won't let me type "and mount" after it.
[15:38] <dr_willis> !runlevel
[15:38] <schnuffle> tbearden: have you tried to use all commands with the full path, e.g. /sur/bin/ls instead of ls?
[15:38] <Brentonator> I'm not sure where to start this discussion, but what OS would I want to run a red5 media server with ffmpeg and apache?
[15:38] <schnuffle> Fustigation: first just type fdisk -l
[15:38] <dr_willis> tbearden,  you could try making it a upstart script in /etc/init and forget about the rc1.d type dirs/scripts
[15:38] <schnuffle> Fustigation: then type mount
[15:38] <cntb> !usbinstall
[15:38] <earthling> Fustigation : Please first refer some tutorial about installing linux alongside windows and try understanding what a drive and a partition mean. your current status ? your windows has gone for a toss i think
[15:38] <Fustigation> schnuffleDisk /dev/sda: 250.1 GB,<PHONE_NUMBER>16 bytes
[15:38] <Fustigation> 240 heads, 63 sectors/track, 32301 cylinders
[15:38] <Fustigation> Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 = 7741440 bytes
[15:38] <Fustigation> Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[15:38] <Fustigation> I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
[15:38] <FloodBot1> Fustigation: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:38] <Fustigation> Disk identifier: 0x83108310
[15:38] <Fustigation>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[15:39] <cntb> !usbdrive
[15:39] <schnuffle> !pastebin | Fustigation
[15:39] <jereanon> After doing the most recent upgrade to 11.04, my laptop doesn't complete booting to gnome anymore. I can switch to a different TTY and run startx to run gnome fine, but I would like it to complete booting. Any insight on what to look at to fix this?
[15:39] <tbearden> i also tried adding it directly to upstart, via '/etc/event.d' but that didn't work
[15:39] <terry> join france24-rfi boA25frun
[15:40] <Rigorm0rtis> Hello guys. When I archive a sparse file with tar (using the S option), tar seems to archive the sparse file as I would expect. However,  when I extract the tar archive the sparse file is 0 bytes.  This happens with both tar x and tar xS. Am I doing something wrong here?
[15:40] <tbearden> dr_willis:  i also tried adding it directly to upstart, via '/etc/event.d' but that didn't work
[15:40] <frank_> hi all
[15:40] <dr_willis> tbearden,  ive never used event.d  i just make simple things in /etc/init/
[15:40] <cntb> dr_willis, trying to ask ubottu for preparing pendrive  usbdrive what keyword for this_
[15:40] <cntb> !usb
[15:41] <frank_> i was trying Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libgtk2.0-cil (>= 2.12.10)install inssider in ubuntu but i have this error :
[15:41] <dr_willis> cntb,  use a tool from the pendrivelinux site. or the usb-creator tool from the ubuntu site.
[15:41] <frank_> any idea
[15:41] <cntb> ty dr_willis
[15:41] <tbearden> schnuffle:  i never use the full path of a command, only the command itself, such as 'ls -lh /' or 'uptime' or 'df -h', etc...
[15:42] <schnuffle> tbearden:  So you never nearly lost your head twiggling cron jobs :). Try it
[15:42] <dr_willis> tbearden,  for init and cron jobs you often need to use the full path to the command.
[15:44] <K4k> How can I find the /dev/[something] device for my audio input device? I know the device works but I kdenlive is requesting the /dev/[something] name which I don't know.
[15:44] <tbearden> dr_willis: the commands in the script are, touch, echo, mount, rsync, umount, shutdown
[15:44] <tbearden> dr_willis: so i should include the full path for these?
[15:44] <dr_willis> tbearden,  or make sure the script sets a good sane PATH at the start.. that would be the best way.
[15:45] <schnuffle> tbearden: so get the path with which touch, which echo, ..... and set the full path in your script
[15:45] <dr_willis> tbearden,  then have the init/cron job call the FULL path to the script.
[15:45] <schnuffle> tbearden: look, dr_willis and me give you an advice. Why not just try it?
[15:46] <Herakles> Is it okay if i am a single user; and uptime shows 3 users ? (1 bash terminal is open )
[15:46] <hroi> hi...
[15:46] <tbearden> schnuffle: working on it now, will update shortly, ty!
[15:46] <hroi> I just installed vnc4server package on my ubuntu server.
[15:46] <jrib> hroi: yeah, try 'w' instead of 'users'
[15:46] <jrib> oops
[15:46] <jrib> Herakles: yeah, try 'w' instead of 'users'
[15:46] <edbian> Herakles: They are probably just your terminal windows.  Take a look with who
[15:47] <hroi> for some reason this vncserver doesnt run as it should, out of the box.
[15:47] <Herakles> jrib, w shows also 3 users....
[15:47] <jrib> Herakles: yes, but see the WHAT column
[15:48] <Herakles> jrib, ?
[15:48] <jrib> Herakles: in 'w', you will see a WHAT column
[15:48] <YankDownUnder> Ghosts on the computer, OH MY! ;)
[15:48] <hroi> int the .vnc folder in xstartup file... it concludes by runnig x-window-manager &
[15:48] <hroi> this should allow me to have floating windows.
[15:49] <hroi> but I get no window controls, and no window decorations.
[15:49] <Herakles> jrib, WHAT is showing "gnome-session" and "w"
[15:49] <jrib> hroi: what does x-window-manager point to?
[15:49] <hroi> I think im missing the basic X11 window managers.
[15:49] <hroi> jrib: checking
[15:50] <Arabus> Hi all, I am running Ubuntu 10.04 and want to change the regional formats using the gnome-language-selector. When I do this and switch from english to german the menu goes gray for a millisecond then switches back to english. Anyone have a guess or hint for me?
[15:50] <jrib> Herakles: well presumably there are 3 things?  But anyway taht's why multiple users show up.  It's normal
[15:50] <dr_willis> hroi,  that 'x-window-manager' is normally set by the 'alternatives' system. You could set it to whtever you want like 'openbox' or fluxbox
[15:50] <exxtreme>  hroi, i just installed the lxde application suite for my vnc server.  Works fine.
[15:50] <hroi> jrib: it points to nothing... ubuntu tells me it is contained in this and that such and such packages.
[15:50] <jrib> hroi: install a window manager :D
[15:50] <dr_willis> hroi,  in xstartup for gnome, you would want 'gnome-session' , not sure what it would be for lxde.
[15:51] <tbearden> dr_willis: one last question, is there a standard way of finding path of an executable?
[15:51] <dli> tbearden, which which
[15:51] <dr_willis> tbearden,  the which command.
[15:51] <hroi> jrib: dr_willis: thanks... so I just need to install some window manager package
[15:51] <dr_willis> hroi,  odd that x-window-manager is not set to somthing.. but some vnc setups are a little weird
[15:52] <hroi> jrib: dr_willis:  I kinda like those old ones... really basic and lightweight right?
[15:52] <jrib> hroi: yeah, it will probably become what x-window-manager points to automatically, but if not, use update-alternatives (in my case x-window-manager points to xmonad and I never set that)
[15:52] <tbearden> k, just found it, ty!
[15:52] <hroi> dr_willis: well... i didnt install a desktop
[15:52] <gulzar> I want xcompmgr,conky,docky to autostart when logged in. How to do it?
[15:52] <jrib> hroi: try fluxbox
[15:52] <hroi> dr_willis: this vnc4server assumes I have a desktop or some window manager
[15:52] <tbearden> i kno i prolly sound like an idiot for not understanding PATH... but this just helped me a lot i think!
[15:53] <dr_willis> hroi,  thats would  be a issue then. :)
[15:53] <iLogic> suspend and hibernate crashes ubuntu 11.04 (blinking caps) all the time.. any clues on what might be happening?
[15:53] <jonesy> how do I do the equivalent of 'chkconfig <svcname> off' in ubuntu 11.04?
[15:53] <th0r> gulzar: start those programs and when you log out remember to save the session
[15:53] <hroi> jrib: ok fluxbox why not.
[15:53] <dr_willis> x-window-mnager is a link to -->   /usr/bin/x-window-manager -> /etc/alternatives/x-window-manager
[15:53] <hroi> jrib: just want something ultralight and stable
[15:53] <dr_willis> hroi,  thhen that is a link to my actual 'default' window manager.
[15:54] <gulzar> th0r: no not like this. I want it the proper way...like adding some kind of entry etc.
[15:54] <jrib> hroi: fluxbox is pretty light while still being pretty straightforward imo.  But there are tons of light window managers in the repositories
[15:54] <dr_willis> hroi,  lightest full desktop is lxde/lubuntu - if you want to roll your own. you can use any of a dozen+ window managers
[15:54] <hwilde> my sound has broken again why do you people keep mesesing with it
[15:55] <hroi> dr_willis:  checked /usr/bin and /etc/alternatives... not window manager.
[15:55] <gulzar> I want xcompmgr,conky,docky to autostart when logged in. And they should start in same order. How to do it?
[15:55] <hwilde> makes me want to never update again
[15:55] <th0r> hwilde: I didn't do anything to it
[15:55] <dli> hwilde, pulseaudio?
[15:55] <hwilde> I can see it playing on the other thing in pavucontrol
[15:55] <dr_willis> gulzar,  make a script that runs them exactly how you want. put it in .config/autostart
[15:55] <hwilde> but it is no longer coming out of my headphones
[15:55] <hwilde> I didn't reboot, I didn't plug or unplug anything, must be updates changing stuff
[15:55] <jrib> hwilde: does pavucontrol show "dummy output"?
[15:56] <hroi> flwm that rings a bell... isnt that this old solaris looking window manager.
[15:56] <dr_willis> !info flvwm
[15:56] <hwilde> pavucontrol shows two outputs,  HDMI and Analog
[15:56] <jrib> -l maybe
[15:56] <dr_willis> hroi,  thats an old one. :)
[15:56] <hwilde> I can see the volume bar on the HDMI thing bouncing around corresponding with the audio I am playing
[15:56] <hroi> !info flwm
[15:56] <jrib> oh
[15:56] <gulzar> dr_willis: script??? Sorry, I can't. I don't know
[15:56] <jrib> never heard of that :P
[15:56] <dli> hroi, icewm ?
[15:56] <iridium> hwilde, my psychic powers broke it
[15:57] <dr_willis> gulzar,  time tolearn then i guess.. just the commands you want to run, in order. with & at the end of each command..
[15:57] <jrib> hroi: just install half a dozen and try them all imo
[15:57] <Nilzie> Could anyone explain to a noob what the major differences between Unity and Gnome 3 is?
[15:57] <hroi> !info fluxbox
[15:57] <sidao> hi all,
[15:57] <gulzar> dr_willis: I think I saw something like this.....I will try
[15:57] <dr_willis> gulzar,  ie; (3 line example) -->   #!/bin/bash   command1 &     sleep 10             *3 seperate lines)
[15:57] <hroi> jrib: fluxbox 4.7 MB.... but flwm is 165 kB.
[15:58] <hroi> thats what I call lightweight :)
[15:58] <dr_willis> hroi,  flwm is also  the kind of thing you recompile to change settings.. :)
[15:58] <dr_willis> !info jwm
[15:58] <dr_willis> jwm at least has a tray  and a few other basics.
[15:58] <Offlein1> Is it possible to copy an installed package from one Ubuntu system to run "portably" on another, if it has the required libraries?
[15:59] <dli> Offlein1, you mean configure files?
[15:59] <gulzar> dr_willis: I think I can do this....I saw some examples.. OK time to learn something new. Thank You!
[15:59] <bipolar> I'm trying to install virtualbox packages (from virtualbox.org) as part of a preseeded install. The only thing I can't figure out is how to get the kernel modules built for the installed kernel rather then the installer's kernel. Right now after the install is done, and the pc reboots, I still need to run /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup. This is because the installed kernel is newer then the installers kernel. Has anyone run into anything similar to this?
[15:59] <hwilde> ah I clicked enough drop downs eventually it switched devices.  it would be nice if this would stop changing now.
[15:59] <jereanon> After doing the most recent upgrade to 11.04, my laptop doesn't complete booting to gnome anymore. I can switch to a different TTY and run startx to run gnome fine, but I would like it to complete booting. Any insight on what to look at to fix this?
[16:00] <Offlein1> dli: I'm not 100% sure -- but I have the PDFTK package on my local machine, and my web server host cannot install it (as I need them to) so they have suggested I try moving the package from my local machine into a directory on the server.
[16:00] <Offlein1> The guy's English was totally unclear in the email he sent, however.
[16:00] <ThinkT510> Nilzie: the quickest way to find out is try them and see
[16:00] <jpds> bipolar: Use DKMS?
[16:01] <jpds> !info virtualbox-ose-dkms | bipolar
[16:01] <Pirx-Danford> cheers I have a symbios logic 53c1030 raid controller and am looking if there is some out of the box ubuntu solution to check the raid status, anyone able to give me a hint? so far it seems I have to get the raidman thing from ibm running, which I would rather like not to do
[16:01] <hroi> dr_willis: jrib:  what will be my default windowman?  the last one I installed perhaps?
[16:02] <jrib> hroi: probably, but use update-alternatives to change
[16:02] <dr_willis> hroi,  thats how it would work from the 'alternatives' systems point of view
[16:03] <schnuffle> Offlein1: it's possible but chances are hich that you mess up, if you don't know really good what you're doing
[16:04] <hroi> !wm2
[16:04] <hroi> !info wm2
[16:04] <tal> f
[16:04] <schnuffle> Offlein1: what system is your web server running under. Maybe there's a repository that gives you the functionality from PDFTK
[16:04] <Offlein1> schnuffle: Thanks for reply - I don't have sudo so I can't do too much damage, I assume. Any idea where I can find the actual files I'd need to copy? I know where the binary is (/usr/bin/pdftk) but that's not super useful.
[16:04] <hroi> !info twm
[16:05] <tim167> hi, i want gnome, and ditch Unity, it sucks, help!
[16:05] <dr_willis> !classic | tim167
[16:05] <Offlein1> schnuffle: It's Ubuntu Hardy -- but that's not the issue sadly. It's hosted as part of a cloud image by our high-performance webhost that they are not able  to just install things to. I guess.
[16:06] <ikonia> tim167: tht's not really possible as a long term solution
[16:06] <schnuffle> Offlein1: To see what libs the binary is linked against use: ldd /usr/bin/pdftk. So you don't have any opportunity to gain root rights on the web server?
[16:06] <dr_willis> tim167,  classic gnome will be gone in the 11.10 release.
[16:06] <tim167> dr_willis: there is NO such thing as a selection box at the bottom of my login screen!
[16:06] <dr_willis> tim167,  gdm has one. kdm has one. lightdm has one.. what are you using?
[16:07] <tim167> where is the "session box"?
[16:07] <tim167> dr_willis: ubuntu 11.04
[16:07] <arooni-mobile> i'd like to index files in a few different folders so i can quickly find them ... i.e. typing a few characters of the filenames and it will autocomplete and find it.  i'm running 11.04
[16:07] <Offlein1> schnuffle I can't gain it, but if something needs to be done to like.. configure something root-needed, I can possibly get them to do that. But installing/removing packages is out.
[16:07] <schnuffle> Offlein1: if all the libs are on the web server you can try to copy it somewhere to the webserver
[16:07] <tbearden> dr_willis: just added this line to the top of my script 'PATH=/user/bin:/sbin:/bin'
[16:07] <dr_willis> enter yoru users name. then a box/menu appears somewhere near the bottom i belive. AFTER you enter the users name
[16:07] <tim167> dr_willis: Unity, by default I suppose
[16:07] <tbearden> dr_willis:  script still not working when executed by 'rc1.d'
[16:07] <Offlein1> schnuffle: I'll try the ldd thing, and could I presumably put them in the same directory as the binary and it may find them?
[16:07] <dr_willis> tim167,  Unity is the 'desktop session' Your Login manager is GDM/KDM/LXDM/LightDM or somting similer...
[16:07] <tim167> dr_willis: no it doesn't, i tried 10 times
[16:08] <schnuffle> tbearden: should be PATH=/usr/bin:/bin not users
[16:08] <tbearden> lulz
[16:08] <Pirx-Danford> tim167, are you looking at the bottom of the login window or the bottom of the screen? its all down at the bottom of the screen
[16:08] <schnuffle> Offlein1: the system knows where to find the libs
[16:08] <tim167> dr_willis: i don't know which login manager, the default one, i just installed an hour ago
[16:08] <tbearden> guess i'm so frustrated i'm missing really stupid stuff now
[16:09] <tim167> Pirx-Danford: at the bottom of the LOGIN window
[16:09] <schnuffle> Offlein1: otherwise LD_LIBRARY_PATH can be set to hint where to find the libs
[16:09] <dr_willis> tim167,  if you are using ubuntu, then youa re using GDM, and there is some sort of session menu on the gdm screen after you enter/select the users name.
[16:09] <evox> ???/
[16:09] <tim167> dr_willis: third time: no there is NOT, no way to select session!
[16:10] <Ryan__> tim167, The default display manager in Ubuntu is GDM, unless you mean the desktop to load.
[16:10] <ThinkT510> tim167: there is, log out, select your username then pick the session at the bottom
[16:10] <Ryan__> Kubuntu's default DM is KDM
[16:10] <tim167> Ryan__: it's Unity here, ubuntu 11.04
[16:10] <Pirx-Danford> tim167, look at the bottom of the screen - down down down! ;)
[16:10] <Ryan__> Oh
[16:10] <drhead> Help me, I did a distribution upgrade and it failed near the end of installing and now in he update manager I can't attempt to upgrade again
[16:10] <ejo> In order to get the choice of window managers to show up at the bottom of the login screen (on 11.04) you have to RIGHT CLICK your login name
[16:10] <tim167> ThinkT510: no there is not, shal i take a picture to proove?
[16:10] <ejo> It won't be there unless you right clicked
[16:10] <schnuffle> tbearden: I guess everybody has already had such situations. So don't bother. The more you're frustrated the more the satifaction will be when you made it :)
[16:10] <ejo> tim167 ^
[16:10] <edbian> drhead: sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:11] <ThinkT510> tim167: yes please
[16:11] <Offlein1> schnuffle: So I copied the binary, ran it, and the first error says it can't find libgcj. But I believe the server has libgcj, so if I set the environment variable "LD_LIBRARY_PATH" to the directory that libgcj is in, it should potentially work?
[16:11] <tim167> ok I log out once again, damn this is frustrating, i hate Unity, BAD decision Canonical!
[16:11] <wang__> test
[16:11] <hroi> !info lxde
[16:11] <Ryan__> edbian, if you want to upgrade the release of Ubuntu, the command line is: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:11] <drhead> edbian: No new release found.  Should
[16:12] <edbian> Ryan__: There is a tool do-release-upgrade    that upgrades from one version to the next
[16:12] <wang__> Is somebody in?
[16:12] <edbian> drhead: Then I think you're fine :)
[16:12] <Ryan__> Oh.
[16:12] <faint545> does anyone know how to mount a raw disk image?
[16:12] <drhead> I try turning it off and on again?
[16:12] <schnuffle> Ryan__: only if you have changed the sources.list already
[16:12] <tim167> oh by the way, this is also gone: power icon > System Settings > login screen, where is it!?
[16:12] <wang__> ha
[16:12] <hroi> !info xfce
[16:12] <tim167> mystery meat navigation
[16:12] <Dori922> !info mom
[16:12] <netking> !info wget
[16:13] <Pici> !msgthebot | hroi everyone
[16:13] <ThinkT510> !info xfce4 | hroi
[16:13] <juliohm> There is some problem in burn the iso image into a DVD instead of a CD?
[16:13] <Pirx-Danford> what is a factoid? oO
[16:13] <Pici> juliohm: none
[16:13] <netking> !info scrot
[16:13] <juliohm> thank you Pici ;-)
[16:13] <dr_willis> juli0w,  ive heard it works.. ive heard it dont work... :)
[16:13] <Pici> netking: stop playing with the bot.
[16:14] <dr_willis> juliohm, ,  ive heard it works.. ive heard it dont work... :)  so try and see - i always use flash drives these days
[16:14] <ejo> tim167: if you can't find any other way to log out, close all programs then press Ctrl-Alt-T to get a terminal window; then at the prompt give the command: sudo restart gdm
[16:14] <Ryan__> edbian, there is an easy way to find if you are using the current release and if not, upgrade. Here's how: First, open up a run dialog, and type in it: update-manager -d   Then, you will see the "Upgrade" button next to "New Ubuntu release is available!
[16:14] <schnuffle> Pirx-Danford: a macro that helps to display info like !anyone or !info .....
[16:15] <Ryan__> I am not sure how to use do-release-upgrade
[16:15] <wang__> It likes some robots in
[16:16] <felix_klow> hi, does ubuntu 11.04 support intels turbo cpu?
[16:16] <earthling> one question to the mods .. ;-) . Is there any update on what ubuntu is doing about the power regression problem in linux kernel .. any patches or do we need to wait for patches from linus ?
[16:16] <szal> felix_klow: define 'intels turbo cpu'
[16:17] <edbian> drhead: cat /etc/issue/
[16:17] <edbian> drhead: cat /etc/issue
[16:17] <felix_klow> ok, i mean intel i7 cpu's
[16:17] <BuenGenio> hi
[16:18] <ThinkT510> felix_klow: yes i7 is supported
[16:18] <netking> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Qj8p-PEwbI
[16:18] <felix_klow> ThinkT510, ok, tnx
[16:18] <BuenGenio> why do I keep seeing this line in my dmesg? [ 8995.255240] EXT4-fs (sda5): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro,commit=0  (sometimes commit is 600)
[16:18] <BuenGenio> sda5 is /
[16:18] <Myrtti> earthling: the 'mods' here are only to make the channel run smoothly, don't necessarily know about kernel plans
[16:18] <szal> netking: please don't post arbitrary links in here
[16:18] <dr_willis> BuenGenio,  i notice that every so often also.
[16:19] <dr_willis> earthling,  kernel 3.x is in the works. :) ive heard it helps a lot of those issues.. but if the fix's get ported back. will take time to tell..
[16:20] <BuenGenio> any major changes we'll be able to notice in userland with 3.0 ?
[16:20] <BuenGenio> I believe it's in going to be in 11.10 also
[16:21] <earthling> Myrtti, dr_willis , ohh.. patience is the mantra then .... :-)
[16:22] <lulznerd> hello
[16:23] <drhead> Ok, it worked. I noticed compositing is off and I can't find how to turn it back on.  Where did that get moved to ._.
[16:27] <drhead> This is awfully quiet for a room of over 1500 people
[16:28] <iridium> they are all beholders
[16:28] <iridium> watching you
[16:28] <schnuffle> drhead: I'm watching you
[16:28] <chaddy> I'm most likely detached
[16:29] <quiescens> They are all figments of your imagination, don't listen to them
[16:30] <bombshellz> Hello, I'm currently on Ubuntu 11.04 and I'm not sure why it's giving me so much pain... I downloaded VirtualBox from the website and attempting to configure a second Host-only adapter
[16:31] <bombshellz> Unfortunately I ran into a problem where there're no other options to select under Attached To, Name
[16:31] <ThinkT510> bombshellz: why didn't you install virtualbox from the repo?
[16:32] <bombshellz> I'm always accustom to installing VirtualBox from the site.... Usually installing repo sometimes is too old or it doesn't work properly
[16:33] <betasoft> try to use qemu
[16:33] <Pirx-Danford> bombshellz: sometimes setting up the extensions for virtualbox helps with certain features
[16:34] <drhead> Okay, tried compiz --replace to get compositing, and now I have unity's dock with over 9000 items on it, and it froze up in a way that I can still use my mouse.  What now?
[16:34] <drhead> Ctrl alt backspace time?
[16:35] <Pirx-Danford> bombshellz: at http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads there is also a download for the extensions, try to set them up properly
[16:36] <bombshellz> Pirx-Danford: This is prior to launching a VM... I need a second adapter created otherwise the Guest OS won't detect it ... Even if the Extensions work properly
[16:36] <drhead> Ctrl alt backspace isn't working...
[16:36] <buckiller> way to resize windows by dragging them with middle mouse button, snap to predefined grid
[16:37] <drhead> Please tell me we still have some way of resetting the x server
[16:37] <pea_brain> Hi all
[16:37] <dli> drhead, to kill X?
[16:37] <betasoft> hey
[16:37] <drhead> Yes, like ctrl alt backspace does
[16:37] <Toph2> i have lost the  'min', 'max' and 'x' on the upper right corner of all my applications,, Any ideas on how to restore those?
[16:38] <dli> drhead, sudo pkill -9 Xorg
[16:38] <drhead> Restarting it, taking you back to the login screen
[16:38] <ThinkT510> bombshellz: extensions are different to guest additions
[16:38] <drhead> One problem, it is frozen
[16:38] <dli> drhead, if you are running gdm, etc., try: screen sudo service gdm restart
[16:38] <neurochrome> hey folks, is it perfectly normal to see failed ssh login attempts on a regular basis?
[16:38] <bombshellz> ThinkT510: Ok
[16:38] <neurochrome> *in my logs
[16:38] <dli> drhead, ctl-atl-f1 ?
[16:39] <dli> drhead, or ssh login
[16:40] <drhead> Ok, it says I am currently logged in
[16:40] <drhead> I didn't just start two xservers did I?
[16:40] <tbearden> dr_willis:  I updated the script for my script, first line of code is 'PATH=/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin'
[16:41] <potatoe> r
[16:41] <tbearden> dr_willis: script will run manually, but not from '/etc/rc1.d' when in single user mode
[16:42] <Dulcin> dulcin
[16:42] <drhead> Okay, I am back in. How do I use compiz without Unity?
[16:42] <Gunz4MiPPle> is there a limit on # of indicator applets that will autostart
[16:42] <dli> drhead, shutdown gdm, kill leftover X
[16:42] <Gunz4MiPPle> i seem to recall the number 7
[16:42] <schnuffle> tbearden: first line should be #! /bin/sh
[16:43] <drhead> dli: I actually just checked, there appears to be only one X
[16:43] <neurochrome> schnuffle, can you have a space? #!/bin/bash
[16:43] <tbearden> schnuffle:  still having trouble w/ my script when in 'single user mode'.  script will run manually, but won't run automatically from '/etc/rc1.d'
[16:43] <schnuffle> neurochrome: yes
[16:43] <neurochrome> schnuffle, YLSNED
[16:43] <tbearden> schnuffle; yes, that is the first line
[16:44] <tbearden> schnuffle; then i have several comments indicated by '#', then the first uncommented line is 'PATH=/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin'
[16:45] <schnuffle> tbearden: is your script placed in /etc/init.d and has a symlink to /etc/rc1.d?
[16:46] <schnuffle> tbearden: the script should be called  (S|K)[0-9][0-9].*
[16:46] <schnuffle> tbearden: I mean the symlink in /etc/rc1.d S for start K for kill
[16:47] <tbearden> schnuffle: yes, '/etc/init.d/disk_sync_init1.sh' & '/etc/rc1.d/S98disk_sync_init1.sh -> ../init.d/disk_sync_init1.sh'
[16:48] <h4lfl1ng> hello all, im having trouble exporting an env. var for my root account..
[16:49] <drhead> Okay, clearly compiz is broken.
[16:49] <drhead> Could it be my video drivers?
[16:49] <drhead> Says it is activated but not in use.
[16:50] <h4lfl1ng> When i do export, and then check with env..it's been changed. But as soon as i change user and do sudo env..it's gone
[16:50] <schnuffle> tbearden: You should place it before S90single and S30killprocs, so call it S10disksync
[16:51] <tbearden> schnuffle:  really?  how come?  just curious
[16:52] <Polah> If I do mtime +1 that should remove files two days old? 0 would be today, 1 would be yesterday so +1 is files created before yesterday, correct?
[16:52] <schnuffle> tbearden: If I look into S30killprocs, it kills all processes and S90single already switches to single user moe. I guess you want to sync some disks before that happens
[16:52] <drhead> How can I test my video drivers?
[16:53] <hroi> hi,
[16:53] <savid> Is there a way to tell how long my computer has been "awake"?  Not uptime, but time since it came out of suspended mode.
[16:53] <schnuffle> Polah: +1 means 2 days and older
[16:53] <hroi> how do I change the name of my ubuntu installation?... in the terminal there appears my username @ some name I didnt decide
[16:53] <Polah> schnuffle: So if I ran it now it would remove files created before this time on the 31st?
[16:54] <drhead> I hope the channel operators know that there is a channel mode that will get rid of all the join/part spam
[16:55] <schnuffle> Polah: -mtime n, File's  data was last modified n*24 hours ago
[16:55] <Polah> schnuffle: Ah, okay thanks
[16:55] <rdesfo> hello
[16:56] <schnuffle> Polah: see man find, you get al the options and their meaning
[16:56] <rdesfo> does ubuntu have anything like SUSE Studio?
[16:56] <shellbeginner> Hi everybody
[16:56] <geegeegee> What is the newest version? 11.04?
[16:56] <schnuffle> hroi: that's your hostname that comes from DHCP or that is set in /etc/hosts
[16:57] <sidney> Hi! Has anyone solved a BusyBox error "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" during installation of natty narwhal?
[16:57] <ThinkT510> !11.04 | geegeegee
[16:57] <shellbeginner> There is a shell script I want to launch every time ubuntu starts. Problem: It never returns and run permanently the whole session. How do I do?
[16:57] <szal> geegeegee: yes
[16:58] <szal> rdesfo: not that I know of
[16:58] <hwilde> shellbeginner,   put an & sign at the end and it will go into the background
[16:58] <schnuffle> shellbeginner: use /etc/rc.local to launch it an d see hwildes comment
[16:58] <rdesfo> szal: that's to bad... thanks for the reply :)
[16:59] <shellbeginner> isn't there any alternative other that using that stupid '&' character?
[17:00] <schnuffle> shellbeginner: maybe you should reroute stdout and stderr like: yourscript.sh  1> /var/log/myscript.log 2> /var/log/myscript.err &
[17:01] <thejam_> Anyone else having a few problems with dual monitors and weird window behaviour in 11.04?
[17:01] <schnuffle> shellbeginner: you can use screen but I don't know what's the problem with &. Scripts are made to do jobs not to look nice
[17:02] <shellbeginner> schnuffle: what about the prompt?
[17:02] <schnuffle> shellbeginner: you can use daemontools, but I guess it you will call it stupid as well :)
[17:02] <schnuffle> shellbeginner: which prompt?
[17:03] <shellbeginner> I wrote a shell script that does nothing but "read -p "press any key" and launched it with the &
[17:03] <shellbeginner> and it didn't go to background
[17:03] <shellbeginner> it asked for the prompt inside the current shell
[17:04] <ciaranm> i've got a cd-drive-less netbook with an existing windows install. there's 100G of unpartitioned space. can wubi install onto that with a proper ext3 filesystem, or do i need to go the livecd route?
[17:04] <tbearden> schnuffle: i don't fully understand 'upstart' and those other processes, 'S30killprocs', and 'S90single', but moving my process to 'S10disksync' worked
[17:04] <schnuffle> shellbeginner: did you added a exit 0 after launching your background script?
[17:05] <shellbeginner> no
[17:05] <tbearden> schnuffle: it worked, but i don't understand why
[17:06] <yellowhead> anyone with an idea of where i can find the network programmers irc on freenode, or can i simply ask here?
[17:06] <_ProGammer> hey
[17:06] <_ProGammer> my keyboard numlock is working like mouse ?!!
[17:06] <_ProGammer> how can i cancel this ?
[17:06] <Pici> _ProGammer: shift or alt numlock, I forget.  Its some modifier key combination.
[17:07] <Pici> yellowhead: ##networking or perhaps the channel for whatever language you're programming in.
[17:07] <Pici> !alis | yellowhead
[17:07] <_ProGammer> Pici: it works thanks
[17:07] <_ProGammer> shift
[17:08] <yellowhead> Pici thanks
[17:09] <schnuffle> tbearden: Okay, so I try a small explanation. The scripts in /etc/init.d are sysv init scripts so nothing to with upstart. Upstart reads them for compability reasons. The number gives the oder in which the scripts are executed. All the K scripts are launched in order before moving to the next level and all S script are executed in order to start something. So you want to sync disks maybe even over network so you
[17:10] <anli_> Its time to check why this computer hangs all the time
[17:10] <anli_> The graphics freezes
[17:10] <schnuffle> tbearden: As I don't know your script I can only guess what was the problem
[17:12] <drhead> How do I get unity to work without instacrashing?
[17:13] <Polah> drhead: By asking questions that aren't vague and providing details on why it is crashing, i.e. error messages or things that display faultily
[17:14] <tbearden> schnuffle:  thank u for ur help!
[17:14] <anli_> if the graphics freezes on this computer, will the output from dmesg change?
[17:14] <anli_> Isnt dmesg only startup messages?
[17:14] <drhead> Polah: I don't get any error message
[17:14] <Polah> drhead: Can you successfully get into GNOME?
[17:14] <drhead> I type compiz --replace, I see a dock that obviously has a million things in it, and it freezes
[17:15] <drhead> Yes, I can login to metacity
[17:16] <dli> drhead, can you try gnome3?
[17:16] <drhead> What is hat
[17:16] <Polah> drhead: That's not GNOME. On the login screen select "Ubuntu Classic" and try that, and try "Ubuntu Classic (No Effects)" if that fails
[17:16] <drhead> that*
[17:16] <Polah> dli: GNOME3 is unsupported.
[17:16] <dli> drhead, of all compiz, I only need the scale plugin to switch window, and scale is in gnome3
[17:16] <darkc0de>  #ubuntu
[17:16] <Pici> darkc0de: Thats here.
[17:16] <faint545> i have this disk image -- http://pastebin.com/Fd4dT2TR
[17:17] <faint545> how would i mount this?
[17:17] <faint545> i need to access data on this image.
[17:17] <gulzar> I took configuration files of CONKY from net. http://pastebin.com/gF8NHrki. It works fine except that the network area is not working. It shows two boxes with labels but no bar and no info. All other things like CPU usage,RAM usage etc. works fine. I am connected with my cellphone (2G). What change is required?
[17:17] <drhead> Yes, ubuntu (classic mode) works
[17:17] <ChessTeach> i just got a new laptop and I am trying to get it up and running. I installed awesome, and now for some reason the terminal is unable to connect to the internet, firefox can fine, but not the terminal
[17:17] <anli_> If I switch from compiz to metacity, is it less probable that my computer will freeze?
[17:18] <ChessTeach> i get this error 'ping: unknown host www.google.com'
[17:18] <dli> ChessTeach, have a look at /etc/resolv.conf
[17:18] <gulzar> drhead: seems like unity crash is universal. I shifted to LXDE with Docky.
[17:18] <shellbeginner> Ok I think I will use the '&' since there is nothin better
[17:18] <gulzar> drhead: can try ubuntu classic.
[17:18] <gulzar> drhead: wait for 11.10 for gnome3
[17:18] <shellbeginner> but if a script was to ask for prompt it would fail
[17:18] <ChessTeach> dli: its empty, just one commented line
[17:18] <drhead> So for now compiz is unusable?
[17:19] <Polah> ChessTeach: Try ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[17:19] <stealz> can anyone tell me how to minimize a window using xdotool or wmctrl or any other method?
[17:19] <ChessTeach> Polah: network is unreachable
[17:19] <stealz> except clicking the minimize icon =)
[17:20] <ChessTeach> oh wait, maybe i don't have internet at all, i just noticed that firefox was loading a cached page
[17:20] <hroi> schnuffle: I changed the name in /etc/host   and restarted... I still get that old name, probably originally assigned by dhcp during install.
[17:20] <gulzar> drhead: not exactly. The bug is in Unity so you cannot use compiz.... in other way yes it is
[17:20] <stealz> Lol Chess, you are on IRC Arent you? I doubt I speak from your cache ;)
[17:20] <Polah> ChessTeach: That would explain why it can't reach IPs which needn't be resolved
[17:21] <drhead> gulzar: And what is this lxde?
[17:21] <gulzar> I took configuration files of CONKY from net. http://pastebin.com/gF8NHrki. It works fine except that the network area is not working. It shows two boxes with labels but no bar and no info. All other things like CPU usage,RAM usage etc. works fine. I am connected with my cellphone (2G). What change is required?
[17:21] <stealz> oh sorry just saw its on your laptop
[17:21] <ChessTeach> Polah: yeah that is definatly the problem. let me play with this for a second, thanks alot
[17:22] <Polah> stealz, ChessTeach: That's a good point actually. IRC typically continues to work when DNS servers go down but if you can't even ping via ICMP then that's very strange.
[17:22] <gulzar> drhead: just like you have gnome similarly LXDE is another environment but very light on resources. You have other desktops also like KDE
[17:22] <hroi> anyone know where to set the name of my ubuntu machine?   somebody suggested /etc/hosts... but this did nothing.
[17:22] <ChessTeach> Polah: cool everything is working now, stupid cache
[17:22] <drhead> I'll stick with what I have
[17:22] <hroi> im annoyed with my shell prompt being titled  username @ some rubbish name.
[17:22] <chocolates> How do I add sources to ubuntu 11.04 using the software center?
[17:23] <drhead> Wait a second, is there a way that I can uninstall unity so I can use compiz?
[17:23] <deven_> my minimize, maximize, close button gone... how to restore them?
[17:23] <gulzar> drhead: can install from USC. search for LXDE. It will show metapackage(12mb). Install and use. It looks very dull as compared to gnome but it hardly takes 5 min to configure it to make it much better than Unity.
[17:23] <thejam_> chocolates: Edit > software sources?
[17:23] <maco> deven_: are you using 11.04? they might be in the top bar if you move your mouse up there (they should appear)
[17:23] <stealz> can anyone tell me how to minimize a window using xdotool or wmctrl or any other method in a sh script? The window title is 'Quake Terminal'
[17:24] <chocolates> thejam_: Where does it say edit?
[17:24] <drhead> Has anyone had success getting compiz to work by uninstalling unity?
[17:24] <justyn> #python
[17:24] <chocolates> Nvm
[17:24] <deven_> yes i m using 11.04 , they were on top of every window, but now its not having minimize, maximise close button? how to resotore it.
[17:25] <gulzar> drhead: there?
[17:25] <KingXerXes> yes
[17:25] <thejam_> Isn't there an option in compiz/ubuntu-tweak that allows you to move/edit them?
[17:25] <Pici> drhead: you can use compiz just fine by selecting an alternate desktop environment at login time.
[17:25] <Pici> !classic | drhead
[17:25] <edbian> !controls
[17:25] <edbian> thejam_: ^^^
[17:25] <gulzar> chocolates: use synaptic
[17:25] <drhead> So in classic mode compiz WILL run?
[17:26] <Pici> drhead: Yes.
[17:26] <bombshellz> It appears in my case regarding VirtualBox, vboxnet0 is not created for Host-Only Adapter to work
[17:26] <Pici> drhead: or at least it should.
[17:26] <Polah> hroi: You set the name during installation. Open a terminal and do: sudo hostname "<hostname you want>"
[17:27] <deven_> help me plz, i m using 11.04 , they were on top of every window, but now its not having minimize, maximise close button? how to resotore it.
[17:27] <thejam_> I didn't even realise compiz didn't run in Unity?
[17:27] <edbian> thejam_: unity requires compiz to run
[17:27] <thejam_> *facepalm*
[17:27] <gulzar> drhead: i tried various combinations like - XFCE+compiz, Unity+compiz, gnomeclassic+compiz, LXDE+compiz but all of them failed
[17:27] <thejam_> Is it obvious that I've not been using linux for long?
[17:28] <DeezeNuts> My right click button isnt working in ubuntu :)
[17:28] <DeezeNuts> ):
[17:28] <gulzar> deven_: you started compiz???
[17:28] <deven_> yes
[17:28] <justyn> thejam: I have been on it for literally 4 hours only xD
[17:29] <deven_> after that it made my top bar go close minimize maxmise gone gulzar yes i messed something there it seems
[17:29] <thejam_> I've been experimenting and reading as much as possible for the last few weeks, but there's still the 'out of my league' barrier every so often haha. I've completely switched from windows though <3
[17:29] <gulzar> drhead: unity cannot run without compiz....but enabling more effects makes it crash
[17:29] <drhead> Pici: It did not work.
[17:30] <gulzar>
[17:30] <gulzar> deven_: then don't use it....by the way what exactly you did?
[17:30] <justyn> thejam_: Nice, I am planning on picking up a lappy and stripping it naked and putting linux onto it and using as my dedicated linux system. But I also want a macbook for school and a bamboo wacom tablet, n2m I have no money ahaha
[17:30] <gulzar>
[17:30] <gulzar> drhead: then it will not
[17:31] <Pici> drhead: I haven't read the entire backlog, but perhaps if you explained exactly how its not working we could be of help.
[17:32] <thejam_> Well this is my laptop running Ubuntu 11.04, I did mess with a few others but I've confined them to virtualbox for testing. I have a partition for windows...I just haven't needed to install windows yet, haha. I'm rebuilding my desktop to try and run as a a server, it's just deciding which distro to use. Sell kidneys? I reckon you could get a fair bit for the pair...
[17:32] <drhead> Pici: I run compiz --replace and it crashes
[17:32] <Pici> drhead: Do you get an error?
[17:32] <sundar> hi all.
[17:32] <gulzar> drhead: try unity --reset
[17:33] <drhead> If it'll help I can try to run it in a terminal
[17:33] <sundar> i have problems installing ubuntu natty narwhal on my mac book pro
[17:33] <drhead> Oh, and it is more of a freeze than a crash
[17:33] <gulzar> drhead: try it. It will reset unity to default.
[17:33] <sundar> could someone please help
[17:33] <gulzar> drhead: unity cannot run without compiz. So if unity is running then compiz is also. Install ccsm then configure settings. no need of compiz --replace
[17:34] <drhead> gulzar: Same, froze
[17:34] <gulzar> drhead: it should not. How much video memory you have?
[17:35] <drhead> Should i try the last command in a terminal?
[17:35] <antlong> anyone know the name of the sort that is applied with ls -v
[17:35] <wink_> if i have 2 versions of the same package installed, how do i switch between the active one?  i have the postgresql-client installed (8.4 and 9.0) and all the /usr/bin symlinks point to the 8.4 version, i'd like them to point to 9.0.  is this something i have to do by hand?
[17:35] <drhead> gulzar: I really don't know. If it helps, I have a geforce go 7300 and I have run compiz before
[17:36] <gulzar> drhead: try unity --reset in terminal
[17:36] <sundar> hi. help installing natty on mac book pro!
[17:36] <anli_> Which graphics card is the least problematic card to run linux on?
[17:36] <Pici> antlong: The manpage says: -v     natural sort of (version) numbers within text
[17:36] <anli_> I want to find out that
[17:36] <antlong> Pici theres a real name for it
[17:36] <justyn> thejam_: ahahaha nooo I have a job xD, getting paid thursday enough to either get a laptop or a bamboo tablet, MAYBE both, but also have to consider a mac book is over 1.4K when I throw on all the accessories and taxes that I want and need. IDK I may settle with Ubuntu for school use for a couple months, it isn't that bad.
[17:36] <dli> anli_, not so new intel/radeon
[17:37] <drhead> I tried unity in a terminal, I got a lot of gdk-warning
[17:37] <antlong> Pici ls -v does a numerical sort though, 1, 2, 3, 100 instead of 1, 100, 2, 3
[17:37] <justyn> thejam_: Rather I should say it works just fine, but I really want better battery life
[17:37] <drhead> I also got a critical
[17:37] <gulzar> drhead: if this is the matter then 11.04 is the main prob
[17:37] <thejam_> Oh, one of the sexy top-end tablets? I have a £50 basic tablet that I never use. +1 for impulse buying.
[17:37] <faint545> can someone help me out? i cant get this image to mount -- http://pastebin.com/UuVeqnaJ
[17:37] <drhead> I will try typing it if autocorrect doesn't mangle it.
[17:37] <sundar> anyone could help installing natty on macbook pro?
[17:38] <gulzar> drhead: I am also unable to use it in this release. In previous releases and other distros compiz works fine
[17:38] <thejam_> And that's a big payday if you are going to get all of that, what the hell do you do?! Bloody students eh..
[17:38] <antlong> sundar http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1VezJENet8
[17:38] <shellbeginner> Ok then here is a new problem: I launch this command in an other script shell: "./myscript.sh  1> /var/log/myscript.log 2> /var/log/myscript.err &" and it works well, but prints "[: 26: Illegal number: Stopping in Background[fail]" every time
[17:38] <wink_> if i have 2 versions of the same package installed, how do i switch between the active one?  i have the postgresql-client installed (8.4 and 9.0) and all the /usr/bin symlinks point to the 8.4 version, i'd like them to point to 9.0.  is this something i have to do by hand?
[17:39] <shellbeginner> I think this is because the '&' doesnt return 0
[17:39] <drhead> bamf_application_get_desktop_file: assertion '?MF_IS_APPLICATION (application)' failed
[17:39] <shellbeginner> but that is annoying, what should I do to hide this?
[17:40] <sundar> antlong, thanks for the response. I am on a weak internet connection right now. my broadband is out of service. ill have a look at it later. do you have a link?
[17:40] <drhead> The ? is a character that was hidden behind the dock
[17:40] <antlong> sundar i just sent you a link
[17:40] <Bluetegu> Hi there. My t420 doesn't come back from sleep. It doesn't always happen, seems to happen only when I leave it sleeping for a long while. Any way to fix this? Thanks.
[17:41] <sundar> antlong, youtube could choke my connection :)
[17:41] <sundar> antlong, i have cd image for 64bit for mac
[17:42] <gulzar> I took configuration files of CONKY from net. http://pastebin.com/gF8NHrki. It works fine except that the network area is not working. It shows two boxes with labels but no bar and no info. All other things like CPU usage,RAM usage etc. works fine. I am connected with my cellphone (2G). What change is required?
[17:42] <preecher> if i have my harddrive divided into 2 partitions & wish to install another distro on my empty partition what do i do to keep the other distro from being my only choice at boot
[17:42] <glisstech> my natty system running in ubuntu classic is having some weird issue running built in utilities like users-admin and the Ubuntu Software Center
[17:42] <sundar> antlong, when i boot it, seems to load the kernel but it displays a message it couldnt load the live image
[17:42] <drhead> Ah, here is a possible problem!
[17:42] <glebihan> shellbeginner, do you get the same error if you run the command without the & ?
[17:42] <shellbeginner> good grief
[17:43] <shellbeginner> that s not the & then
[17:43] <blackcatnekonegr> what is the command you use to reinstall ubuntu from terminal mode using the online packages?
[17:43] <glebihan> shellbeginner, it must be an error inside the script you're trying to run
[17:43] <glebihan> shellbeginner, could you pastebin that file ?
[17:43] <glisstech> I found this error in the auth.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/657362/
[17:44] <vuth> hi
[17:44] <vuth> is this the help channel
[17:44] <drhead> A tually
[17:44] <drhead> Actually*
[17:44] <glebihan> vuth, yes it is
[17:45] <drhead> I will take a picture of my screen (doubt screenshot will work) and link to it
[17:45] <wink_> if i have 2 versions of the same package installed, how do i switch between the active one?  i have the postgresql-client installed (8.4 and 9.0) and all the /usr/bin symlinks point to the 8.4 version, i'd like them to point to 9.0.  is this something i have to do by hand?
[17:45] <sundar> someone please help installing natty on macbook pro
[17:45] <shellbeginner> glebihan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/657364/
[17:46] <shellbeginner> this is a home made script
[17:46] <vuth> baisic questions...all software for linux mint and ubuntu is compatible correct?
[17:46] <blackcatnekonegr> what is the command you use to reinstall ubuntu from terminal mode using the online packages? Cause my dvd drive breaks cds after a few uses, so is that or to try to make a usb installer, something I have no clue of how to do in linux
[17:46] <vuth> unbuntu, mint, kubutnu, etc..all can work on all OS?
[17:46] <wink_> ugh.
[17:46] <edbian> vuth: I think so.  What are you getting at?
[17:46] <Myrtti> vuth: huh?
[17:46] <shellbeginner> vuth: except for the licences, since mint doesn't really care about theses
[17:47] <vuth> well im on sypnatic
[17:47] <vuth> package manager and for example to install xchat
[17:47] <Myrtti> vuth: installing stuff from other distros isnt supported, for a start.
[17:47] <drhead> Is 'drawable is not a native x11 window' enough to cause problems?
[17:48] <preetam> unable to install any package after upgrading to ubuntu 11.04. system gives error message like "dpkg: error processing openchangeproxy (--configure):
[17:48] <sundar> is there a channel for ubuntu mac?
[17:48] <preetam>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured".
[17:48] <vuth> i typed in xchat and like 6 came up. and
[17:48] <glebihan> shellbeginner, I think the error is in the RUN_Server2Stop.sh file
[17:48] <glisstech> anyone?
[17:49] <vuth> so u recommend using ubuntu software manager only
[17:49] <steelbox> bonsoir
[17:49] <madrid> ola
[17:49] <vuth> first of all ididnt see that..since im used to mint.. and ubuntu software looks much much easier to use  :D
[17:50] <steelbox> à tout hasard, y a-t-il des experts cuda ici ?
[17:50] <glebihan> !fr | steelbox
[17:50] <steelbox> cuda experts here?
[17:50] <since96> hello to you guys
[17:50] <Myrtti> vuth: if you are using ubuntu, you shouldnt have any mint specific tools in the first place
[17:51] <vuth> sypnatics came with ubuntu
[17:51] <since96> i'm installing xubuntu, cool os !
[17:51] <vuth> so i might as well uninstall it?
[17:51] <steelbox> CUDA experts here plz?
[17:52] <since96> previousely, i was under Windows ME x)
[17:52] <bluezone> pfft
[17:52] <Myrtti> vuth: then what are you talking about mint? you dont need to uninstall synaptic
[17:52] <bluezone> since96, what an upgrade! lol
[17:52] <since96> joint #ubuntu-fr
[17:52] <since96> join #ubuntu-fr
[17:53] <shellbeginner> Thank you but I have errors for both
[17:53] <since96> damn!
[17:53] <drhead> Someone look at this: pastebin.com/8WxRBzD5
[17:53] <th0r> since96: /join
[17:53] <BuenGenio> is Enlightenment's Entrance available as a DM in 11.04?
[17:53] <since96> thank you =)
[17:53] <drhead> Last two lines are me killing Xorg
[17:53] <glebihan> shellbeginner, could you pastebin the RUN_Server2Stop.sh file ? (and the other one if you want to)
[17:53] <dr-willis> BuenGenio:  may be ppas for it
[17:53] <stealz> can anyone reccomend a mouse gesture software for ubuntu 10.04
[17:54] <BuenGenio> thanks
[17:54] <vuth> nevermind
[17:54] <vuth> myrtti nevermind
[17:54] <dr-willis> buw
[17:54] <stealz> dr-willis: you're refering to me?
[17:55] <shellbeginner> those two scripts are scripts from the software
[17:55] <shellbeginner> I didn't make them
[17:55] <shellbeginner> They call java commands on a JBoss server
[17:55] <dr-willis> stealz:  huh? dont think so
[17:55] <since96> what is "grub" ?
[17:55] <shellbeginner> I can pastebin them, but don't really know how this might help$
[17:55] <thanius> Hi there, I recently got a 16 gb micro SDHC card which I'm trying to repartitionate for Android. The thing is, after repartitioning and formatting, the second (and swap) partitions appear as unknown filesystems after removing/inserting card. Is there something to SDHC cards or is mine just dodgy? How come only the second++ partitions gets lost?
[17:56] <stealz> ok, nevermind =)
[17:56] <drhead> Could not stat() file ~/.compiz-1/plugins/lib<insertcompizpluginnamehere>.so
[17:56] <glebihan> shellbeginner, well since the error occurs in those scripts, it might help
[17:56] <drhead> Are .so files important?
[17:56] <ernest_> http://pastebin.com/dLw6UFwx
[17:56] <stealz> since96: grub is the boot manager that comes with ubuntu. actually  - grub-2 is
[17:56] <glebihan> drhead, yes
[17:56] <edbian> drhead: extremely
[17:56] <since96> ok, thanks stealz
[17:57] <drhead> then there's my damn problem
[17:57] <stealz> since96: it is the menu that lets you select which system to boot into, and maybe select windows if you are running dualboot
[17:57] <dr-willis> thanius:  id say ask in #android
[17:57] <stealz> or whatever other OS you're running with
[17:57] <drhead> How do I get em back?
[17:57] <Guest80803> hello
[17:57] <thanius> Well, the problem is in ubuntu
[17:57] <thanius> and windows
[17:57] <Guest80803> using IRC for the first time
[17:57] <thanius> I'm not partitioning in Android
[17:57] <Nilzie> thanius: put the card into your android phone and you can format it from there
[17:57] <glisstech> My administration tools...specifically the gui Users and Groups, and Ubuntu Software Center are not working properly
[17:57] <thanius> Nilzie: I could try, I guess I'll have to install ext2 driver...
[17:58] <kitche> drhead: depends on what you deleted but they are hard to get back if you deleted something very important like libc.so.*
[17:58] <glisstech> they open and run, but I can't make any changes, install software, manage user accounts, etc...
[17:58] <drhead> I did not delete them
[17:58] <mneptok> thanius: just use FAT32
[17:58] <edbian> glisstech: How are you opening them??
[17:58] <glebihan> glisstech, how are you launching them ?
[17:58] <drhead> I think they are somewhere like in /usr
[17:58] <edbian> glebihan: I beat you! :P
[17:58] <shellbeginner> ok the start script is here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/657370/ and the stop script is there: http://paste.ubuntu.com/657369/ But when I launch them by myself there are no errors, except that they are suspensive. start never returns and stop takes a moment
[17:58] <glebihan> glebihan, yep :)
[17:58] <Guest80803> edbian:I open it through eclipse
[17:59] <thanius> mneptok: It doesn't format the second partition with FAT32, it uses ext.
[17:59] <glisstech> i have tried from the gui, and using sudo users-admin, and gksudo users-admin
[17:59] <picasso> hello. i'm looking to set up a second sshd process on my ubuntu server that listens on a specific IP and port. how can i achieve this?
[17:59] <picasso> copy sshd config and copy the init script?
[17:59] <blackcatnekonegr> any linux tool to create usb flash installer from an iso image?
[17:59] <kitche> drhead: well .so files are all over the place /lib /usr/lib you pretty much need to know where the .so files belong to know where to move them if you moved them to a different folder
[17:59] <edbian> Guest80803: I wasn't talking to you?
[17:59] <edbian> glisstech: mmm, strange.
[17:59] <Guest80803> Hello. I am trying to combine my unused hard drive space with already existing C drive
[18:00] <Guest80803> how can I do it
[18:00] <edbian> glisstech: Can you be more specific?  What are you trying to change that won't change?
[18:00] <drhead> Didn't move em either
[18:00] <glisstech> blackcatnekonegr: yes, follow the instructions here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[18:00] <ThinkT510> !unetbootin | blackcatnekonegr
[18:00] <edbian> Guest80803: boot a liveCD and use gparted
[18:00] <drhead> I doubt they were in the right place to begin with
[18:00] <glisstech> I am trying to give a second user administrative permissions
[18:00] <Guest80803> edbian: is gparted available in the software center?
[18:01] <mneptok> thanius: "it?"
[18:01] <edbian> Guest80803: Yes, it's installed on a liveCD by default
[18:01] <since96> is there google chrome under xubuntu ?
[18:01] <kitche> drhead: well then you need to figure out what you did since the .so files are placed exactly where they are suppose to be
[18:01] <ThinkT510> since96: yes, xubuntu shares the same repos as ubuntu
[18:02] <ThinkT510> since96: sorry, there is chromium-browser but not chrome
[18:02] <me-1> hi...its me or ubuntu with unity is looking very similar to Mac OS X
[18:02] <Guest80803> why is my name shown as guest  and not the one I have kept
[18:02] <stealz> since96: you can probably install it
[18:02] <drhead> kitche: I found them where they should be, I'll copy em all to .compiz-1
[18:02] <ThinkT510> !info chromium-browser | since96
[18:02] <bluezone> me-1, yes, that's why it sucks :)
[18:02] <glisstech> edbian: I originally had some issues with wine and somehow messed up my wife's user profile in trying to fix it
[18:02] <stealz> since96: with sudo apt-get install chrome
[18:02] <me2resh> bluezone lol
[18:03] <since96> ok thakyou
[18:03] <edbian> glisstech: Did you edit the sudoer's file?
[18:03] <faint545> when i run "gedit somefile" in terminal, how do i get it so that it runs in the background so the terminal isnt occupied after i run the command?
[18:03] <stealz> but I dont know what the default is, its probably firefox
[18:03] <fission6> i changed my host name but now i keep getting issues trying to resolve it, any idea? i do sudo hostname mybrandnewname and get can not resolve hostname
[18:03] <petsounds> drhead: Just wondering, what video card u have?
[18:03] <stealz> I am running ubuntu myself
[18:03] <edbian> glisstech: That is, do these guis work if you log in as yourself and run them??
[18:03] <glisstech> edbian: no sir
[18:03] <picasso> anyone? trying to create a second sshd with different config. where do i do this?
[18:03] <dr-willis> faint545:   gedit &
[18:03] <glebihan> shellbeginner, I think the problem might come from redirecting the standard output
[18:03] <edbian> fission6: Fix it in /etc/resolv.conf
[18:03] <Guest80803> Why is my name shown as Guest?
[18:03] <DeezeNuts> because you didnt set a nickname
[18:04] <fission6> ed1703, how?
[18:04] <stealz> Guest80803: are you using a web client?
[18:04] <glisstech> edbian: They run, but I can't make any changes
[18:04] <kitche> Guest80803: because you didn't identify most likely
[18:04] <Pici> Guest80803: Because someone else owns the nick you wanted.
[18:04] <edbian> fission6: sorry, I meant, fix it in /etc/hosts
[18:04] <stealz> Guest80803: type /nick yourname
[18:04] <glebihan> shellbeginner, could you try removing the "1> /var/log/adempiere_start.log"
[18:04] <fission6> what do you mean by fix it?
[18:04] <dr-willis> faint545:  see bash job controll guides for details :(
[18:04] <glisstech> edbian: i see a failed authentication message when I try to change anything
[18:04] <edbian> glisstech: You have two users.  If you log in as your user do they work?  If you log in as your wife do they work?
[18:04] <Pici> Guest80803: If you need help with IRC stuff, please ask in #freenode
[18:04] <dr-willis> ;)
[18:04] <edbian> glisstech: I think one or both of you is not a sudoer
[18:04] <exxtreme> Guest80803...set up an account in your messenger's preferences and save it. Then you can login with that nic automatically each time.
[18:04] <vf-1j> Greetings all, my seamonkey application keeps crashing. Here is the terminal output when it occurs: http://pastebin.com/8C6Bv1xL
[18:04] <glisstech> edbian: but dont get prompted for my password
[18:04] <edbian> fission6: take a look at the file, it will be obvious.  If not ask me again :)
[18:05] <edbian> glisstech: are you going to answer my question or not
[18:05] <edbian> ?
[18:05] <shellbeginner> I can do that, but that script logs a lot of stuff and my shell will nearly explode
[18:05] <Pici> picasso: That sounds good to me.  Make sure that the init script uses the right arguments to use a custom conf file.
[18:05] <fission6> edbian,  i see this line <IP_ADDRESS>       localhost.localdomain   localhost
[18:05] <glisstech> edbian: I am running this under my account, hers is not administrative account, I was trying to change her account type to admin when I discovered this
[18:05] <edbian> fission6: that is fine, do you see your old hostname in there at all?
[18:05] <edbian> glisstech: Did you edit the sudoers file by hand?
[18:06] <fission6> no but i dont know what my oldhostname would be?
[18:06] <edbian> glisstech: are you online?  Can you pastebin /etc/sudoers for me?  (paste.ubuntu.com)
[18:06] <glisstech> edbian: no sir
[18:06] <fission6> i never set it, its a new linode instance
[18:06] <edbian> fission6: You said you changed your hostname right?  Do you not remember it?
[18:06] <glebihan> shellbeginner, it's just a test to know whether the problem comes from there
[18:06] <glisstech> edbian: yes...just a sec
[18:06] <edbian> glisstech: waiting... :)
[18:06] <fission6> well i did, but i dont think it "stuck", either way i dont see it in the /hosts file
[18:07] <edbian> fission6: can you pastebin your /etc/hosts file for me to see?  paste.ubuntu.com
[18:07] <shellbeginner> ok
[18:07] <glisstech> edbian: I dont see any information in the file
[18:08] <glisstech> edbian: what should I use to open it? I tried kate
[18:08] <n1k_h0lm3s> whats the shortcut for refresh in ubuntu
[18:08] <edbian> glisstech: you made a typo then     /etc/sudoers
[18:08] <kissima> Hi
[18:08] <edbian> glisstech: If it truely is empty you have big problem.
[18:08] <kissima> Is someone speak French here???
[18:08] <kitche> !fr > kissima
[18:08] <bluezone> kissima, #ubuntu-fr
[18:09] <bluezone> so close to beating you xD
[18:09] <glisstech> edbian: I am able to use sudo from terminal with my account
[18:09] <vf-1j> Greetings all, my seamonkey application keeps crashing. Here is the terminal output when it occurs: http://pastebin.com/8C6Bv1xL
[18:09] <GirlyGirl_> genii-around: Maybe it was stupid on a carpet
[18:09] <glisstech> edbian: any idea how to fix it?
[18:09] <EgyParadox> !ar
[18:09] <Pici> GirlyGirl_: psst, wrong channel.
[18:09] <GirlyGirl_> Sorry that was meant for #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:09] <edbian> glisstech: Is it working correctly?  what is in the file?
[18:10] <edbian> glisstech: gksudo gedit /etc/sudoers
[18:10] <n1k_h0lm3s> What is the short cut for refresh in ubuntu?
[18:10] <edbian> glisstech: If you can sudo the file is likely not blank
[18:11] <glisstech> edbian: here ya go...http://paste.ubuntu.com/657378/
[18:12] <edbian> glisstech: run groups  at the cli  are you in the admin group  ?
[18:12] <shellbeginner> it still fails
[18:12] <shellbeginner> without the redirection
[18:13] <glisstech> edbian: yes, and i used sudo usermod -G admin username to add hers to the admin group, but cannot sudo as her user
[18:13] <shellbeginner> it immediately prints the error, and then the lot of stuff it usually logs
[18:13] <glebihan> shellbeginner, ok I might have an idea, let me run a few tests
[18:13] <kitche> glisstech: by chance did you log out and log back in as her user?
[18:13] <vf-1j> Greetings all, my seamonkey application keeps crashing. Here is the terminal output when it occurs: http://pastebin.com/8C6Bv1xL
[18:13] <edbian> glisstech: You have to log out and log in for group and user changes to take effect :)
[18:14] <glisstech> kitche: yes, and have rebooted several times as well
[18:14] <shellbeginner> last thing: without the redirect and without the '&' there is no problem
[18:14] <drhead> Could somebody who happens to have a working copy of unity start it with --verbose and give me a log so I have something to compare it to?
[18:14] <shomon> hi, my ubuntu 10.10 boots up to a black screen with a mouse pointer in the middle. you can't reach terminals with ctrl alt f keys, itls completely frozen. I just booted in with grub, but how do I diagnose from here how to get it booting again?
[18:14] <shellbeginner> so it seems the '&' is somehow linked to the error
[18:15] <vf-1j> What does 'buffer overflow' mean?
[18:15] <bkerensa> shomon: Hmm
[18:15] <drhead> When my unity freezes the last line is Setting Update "fullscreen_visual_bell"
[18:16] <edbian> vf-1j: It means a buffer that has so much stuff in it that stuff gets lost cause the buffer is not large enough to hold it all
[18:16] <glebihan> shellbeginner, yes the problem comes from the "&" and the usage of "log_action_end_msg"
[18:16] <dr-willis>  vf-1j  fitting more bits in your allocated bytes then it can hold.
[18:16] <shomon> I can see hd0...
[18:16] <glebihan> shellbeginner, replace "log_action_end_msg "Starting in Background" by "log_action_end_msg 0"
[18:16] <Guest19760> Hello! I've got a question relating hardware: Today I assembled a new computer but the only component showing some action when pressing the ON-button is the power supply. It makes one clicking sound and that's it. First I thought that the power supply is to weak (Be quiet! Dark Power Pro 650 W)  so I activated the Overclocking Key, which should help. Which it didn't. So I temporarily removed the graphics card (Zotac GeForce GTX 570) tempo
[18:16] <Guest19760> rarily. No effect. What could be the reason for this?
[18:16] <vf-1j> edbian, This is attributed to my Seamonkey application
[18:16] <bkerensa> shomon: Have you tried alt-sysrq-k?
[18:17] <shellbeginner> it it is only that, I will use a basic echo instead
[18:17] <glisstech> edbian, kitche: I am going to reboot and try again real quick just to be sure
[18:17] <vf-1j> dr-willis, This is attributed to my seamonkey application when ever I launch it http://pastebin.com/8C6Bv1xL
[18:17] <glebihan> shellbeginner, you can do that too
[18:17] <edbian> vf-1j: Seamonkey is a browser?
[18:17] <edbian> glisstech: k
[18:17] <shellbeginner> I used the log console because I adapted a script I found somewhere on the doc
[18:17] <vf-1j> edbian, Correct
[18:18] <shellbeginner> ah sorry I didn't see your suggestion
[18:18] <shellbeginner> I will try it
[18:18] <bkerensa> shomon: You could also hold shift during boot and edit grub so its not quiet
[18:18] <vf-1j> Does anyone know how to repair an application when "buffer overflow detected" occurs?
[18:18] <bkerensa> shomon: Just remove "quiet splash" and replace with "text"
[18:18] <dr-willis> vf-1j:  file a bug report.
[18:18] <glebihan> edbian, seamonkey is a fork from mozilla
[18:18] <edbian> vf-1j: I don't know what buffer it is referring to (or what buffers there are).  Usually buffers are used to accept packets on the network card.  If too many packets are recieved (before they can be processed) the buffer will overflow with packets and they'll be lost.  This is what happens in a DDOS attack
[18:19] <edbian> glebihan: i see
[18:19] <Pici> shellbeginner: by the way, you might find #bash helpful as well, even just for watching other questions it is very informative.
[18:19] <shomon> thanks bkerensa
[18:19] <dr-willis> vf-1j:  hard for a nonprogramer to even debug
[18:19] <shellbeginner> thank you very much for your suggestion and you help
[18:19] <glebihan> shellbeginner, you're welcome
[18:19] <shomon> I'm just in grub now, but I have no idea wheree to switch to text
[18:20] <vf-1j> dr-willis, this happens with a lot of Ubuntu programs it seems
[18:20] <bergeron> Hello! can someone give me a hand? A friend installed ubuntu for another friend of mine, but spelled his name wrong. Is there a simple way of changing your full name (ie in 'My Info')?
[18:20] <shellbeginner> I asked in this channel because I am trying to make it a service ubuntu, but it appears my error wasn't in relation with ubuntu
[18:20] <shomon> I did come and ask a couple of days ago, and they said to boot into the console...
[18:20] <shellbeginner> thanks for the hing
[18:20] <dr-willis> vf-1j: ive rarely seen the issue.
[18:20] <shellbeginner> *hint
[18:20] <bkerensa> shomon: There are some help with this on forums want me to send you the link?
[18:21] <vf-1j> dr-willis, So far it occurred with Gimp, Seamonkey, and one other application
[18:21] <shomon> where do I go to remove uiet splash bkerensa?
[18:22] <dr-willis> vf-1j:  yoi may want to be running some memtest on your system
[18:22] <bkerensa> shomon: http://bit.ly/q3w711 <-- there are quite a few ubuntuforum threads with some tricks and solutions
[18:22] <vf-1j> dr-willis, I have four gigs o ram
[18:22] <vf-1j> dr-willis, It is very likely a software issue
[18:22] <bkerensa> shomon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[18:22] <shomon> thanks bkerensa! will try that
[18:22] <dr-willis> vf-1j:  very likely bad ram also
[18:22] <vf-1j> dr-willis, Are you a betting man?
[18:23] <vf-1j> this is easy money]
[18:23] <bergeron> eheehee, it's in users and groups. How... logical.
[18:23] <dr-willis> see what memtest says. you want to aegue or troubleshoot..
[18:23] <Pinguincsc> hello
[18:23] <vf-1j> dr-willis, No, seriously it is not a hardware issue, I am very rigorous about that
[18:23] <dr-willis> whatever then
[18:23] <edbian> vf-1j: It is definitely a software issue.  Buffers exist only in software
[18:24] <Pinguincsc> I want to buld a linux box to serve as a mail and file server
[18:24] <edbian> vf-1j: Have you done a memtest recently?  If not then you can't claim you're rigorous about checking hardware
[18:24] <vf-1j> edbian, thanks, I think a solution is to build from source and launch the application manuallyu
[18:24] <vf-1j> edbian, Yes I do regularly
[18:24] <drhead> Think I found the culprit
[18:25] <edbian> vf-1j: Are you overclocking?
[18:25] <drhead> Unity-window-decorator
[18:25] <vf-1j> edbian, No
[18:25] <edbian> vf-1j: You want to compile every program that is doing this from source?
[18:25] <drhead> Tried compiz and the last message before it froze was that!
[18:25] <Pinguincsc> The mail part should replace MS Exchange 5.5, so I need a way to import all mailboxes and address boks
[18:25] <BrianMBI> Where do I acquire 10.04LTS Server netboot files?
[18:26] <BrianMBI> I have a server I need to image with no DVD
[18:26] <joru> Hi, i'm trying to learn how to use "quickly". Running "quickly design" results in nothing at all. ideas? location of log-files?
[18:26] <vf-1j> edbian, Seamonkey is a modest browser application, however I store a lot of e-mails. As for compiling from source, it seems to be the only way to get the program I need to work. Alternately, I can just use another distro. For instance, this issue never occurs in Slackware
[18:26] <nmvictor> Do i have to set permissions on my usb hubs to have my java application traverse through them , if how do I set the permissions on my usb ports in ubuntu?
[18:26] <edbian> vf-1j: Sounds like you have the answers to your own questions.
[18:27] <OsakaFoo> hi, just got all the way though to "configure package manager" and for some reason it decided to disconnect the usb which it was installing to. Is there any way to continue the install?
[18:27] <nyankipz> how do I wipe unity from the face of known existance?
[18:27] <nyankipz> perhaps even unknown or potential existance?
[18:27] <vf-1j> edbian, No, the buffer memory thing is still an issue I have not resolved with Ubuntu\
[18:27] <Pinguincsc> any suggestions?
[18:28] <joru> i am following this tutorial: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Quickly
[18:28] <raven> how to enumerate files with x+2?
[18:28] <edbian> vf-1j: I have no idea what is causing the problem.  I can only suggest test to start doing that are very generic like changing the kernel
[18:28] <vf-1j> edbian, There is an idea
[18:28] <edbian> vf-1j: perhaps it's a good one
[18:28] <Pici> raven: What do you mean?
[18:29] <edbian> joru: What are you confused about?  Have you run quickly tutorial ubuntu-application
[18:29] <raven> Pici, 001.ext 003.ext 005.ext ....
[18:29] <thehodge> afternoon all, I'm running 10.4 and having a bit of trouble, whenever I run cron status (or cron start) I get status: Unable to connect to system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory , google has really not been helpful in this search
[18:29] <vf-1j> edbian, It sounds about right
[18:29] <edbian> vf-1j: good luck
[18:29] <vf-1j> edbian, Thanks for your help]
[18:30] <edbian> vf-1j: sure
[18:30] <BrianMBI> Where do I acquire 10.04LTS Server netboot files?
[18:30] <joru> edbian: I am following the tutorial yes
[18:30] <edbian> joru: What are you confused about?
[18:30] <Pici> raven: You could either use a loop in bash, or use 'find' restricted to the current directory and with a regex for odd numbers.  I'm sure there are a bunch of other ways to do it too.
[18:31] <joru> edbian: in the Getting started section i am told to execute "quickly design" but this does not give me a glad interface designer window
[18:31] <joru> edbian: the call just returns
[18:32] <edbian> joru: I think you have to do quickly create ubuntu-application foo  and cd to foo first
[18:32] <shomon> ok I'm sorry but I went on a page to do with the blank screen with cursor of death in ububtu 10.10, and it looks like a different thing to what I'm getting
[18:32] <joru> edbian: yes, have done
[18:32] <edbian> joru: do all the other commands work?
[18:32] <joru> edbian: i've followed it from the start :/
[18:32] <joru> edbian: yes
[18:33] <shomon> they can reboot, or press enter or wait, nothing works on mine, and now I can't even get into grub
[18:33] <edbian> joru: I think it's starting and crashing very quickly  can you do quickly -v design or quickly -vv design  ?
[18:34] <joru> edbian: quickly -v/-vv design is not a command
[18:34] <shomon> it just boots straight into the crash screen. I couldn't press e to edit and get text, not sure I understand...
[18:34] <joru> edbian: quickly design -v/-vv returns right away
[18:34] <edbian> joru: darn (trying to get verbose)
[18:34] <edbian> joru: I think the program is running and crashing immediately
[18:35] <Narc> Hey everyone. I'm running into a weird problem with two Ubuntu boxes, running 11.04. We're unable to send files to each other, with empathy, over Jabber. We both forwarded ports 5222, 8010 and 8080 to no avail. Any advice anyone? Thanks.
[18:35] <joru> edbian: i'm going to restarts since i've rotated some passwords/keyrings
[18:35] <edbian> joru: ok
[18:35] <shomon> how doi get grub to show me a screen with all kernels memory tests etc again?
[18:35] <edbian> shomon: press shift during boot
[18:35] <nmvictor> is usbfs supported in ubuntu linux?
[18:36] <joru> edbian: got a question about the key when i ran quicly create and i think I failed
[18:36] <joru> edbian: brb
[18:37] <shomon> edbian I pressed shift during boot, it goes to a prompt, I can type for about a second, and thenblank screen with a mouse pointer
[18:37] <edbian> shomon: Is ubuntu not booting correctly?
[18:38] <Twexcom-NP> Hello.
[18:38] <shomon> no, I came and explained here a while ago, and was told to boot into grub, now nothing I do seems to avoid the frozen black screen
[18:38] <vf-1j> Hahahahahahahaha http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14370878
[18:38] <Pici> !pt | vf-1j
[18:38] <Pici> !ot | vf-1j
[18:39] <edbian> shomon: Have you tried nomodeset kernel option at the grub menu?
[18:40] <shomon> yay, I got into grub this time. should I switch uiet splah with text first, edbian?
[18:40] <Twexcom-NP> What is the location of the proxy configuration file in Ubuntu 10.04?
[18:41] <edbian> shomon: take quiet and splash out.  add in nomodeset boot.  This post explains in greater detail:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[18:41] <burgua> hi all! I'm using 10.10 but have some strange situation. I cannot remove bluetooth icon from tray (
[18:41] <nmvictor> Where is Universal serial Bus mapped to, I cant find it in /proc/bus/, I only see /proc/bus/pci/ and /proc/bus/input/. Where can I find what used to be /proc/bus/usb?
[18:41] <edbian> shomon: You're doing How to temporarily set kernel boot options on an installed OS (not wubi)
[18:41] <shomon> ok thanks! on a mobile so brb..
[18:42] <juboba> how can I configure RaLink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe on Ubuntu 10.04
[18:42] <juboba> ?
[18:42] <juboba> how can I configure RaLink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe on Ubuntu 10.04?
[18:42] <bolshevik> right click on the bluetooth icon and remove it
[18:42] <bolshevik> how hard can it be?
[18:43] <edbian> shomon: sure
[18:43] <burgua> bolshevik:  comrade bolshevik, it will remove entire indicator widget
[18:44] <burgua> bolshevik:  and unchecking in preferences of bluetooth has no effect
[18:45] <betasoft> i coudn't uninstall xpdf, remind me the command line please
[18:45] <Twexcom-NP> I want to set my Ubuntu 10.04 livecd to a particular proxy configuration so that I won't have  to keep changing that setting every time it starts. Help?
[18:45] <daanish> What's the easiest way to install Adobe Air on an amd64 system?
[18:46] <joru> edbian: no luck on quickly design
[18:46] <EgyParadox> juboba:http://www.halibutdepot.org/how_to_build_rt3090_for_ubuntu_lucid/
[18:46] <edbian> joru: man quickly
[18:47] <daanish> What's the easiest way to install Adobe Air on an amd64 system?
[18:48] <thejam_> anyone know of a method of syncing/managing my iphone 4 on 11.04? So far all of the programs using libimobile can only read to it :|
[18:48] <juboba> thanks EgyParadox
[18:48] <Eiriksvinr> Hello, I'm wondering how to automatically bypass the "Try Ubuntu" or "Install Ubuntu" installer on a Ubuntu Live USB? Is there a way to just boot Ubuntu without having to wait through all of that?
[18:49] <Murphant> \join #mathematica
[18:49] <ThinkT510> !usb | Eiriksvinr
[18:49] <shomon> hi again, I tried nomodeset, and I still got a blank screen, can I use grub to maybe edit some X11 config?
[18:50] <nmvictor> Got it, usbfs could be replaced by sysfs, not sure. But /proc/bus/usb is now accessible as /dev/bus/usb. If anyone cares to know that.
[18:50] <shomon> I put it on its own line in the grub editor, and replaced quiet splash with text
[18:50] <miceiken> Hello.
[18:51] <miceiken> Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2) - I am gettng this error, any easy fix?
[18:51] <daanish> thejam_ look at this: http://fuckyeahubuntu.tumblr.com/post/6373470104/some-simple-steps-to-ensure-ipod-iphone-sync
[18:51] <edbian> shomon: nomodeset needs to go on the same line that quiet and splash were on.  (the same line as text).  The link I gave explaines this in detail
[18:51] <BluesKaj> odd, because that command worked great previously..suddenly it's trying copy my whole home directory instead of a folder in the directory
[18:51] <jfcaron> What packages are recommended to get good Unicode font coverage?  I'd ideally like to have a font for every BMP codepoint.
[18:52] <shomon> miceiken, you could try "sudo ufw add mysql" I think
[18:52] <BluesKaj> oops
[18:52] <nmvictor> shomon: whats ur problem with the blank screen, sounds familiar
[18:52] <miceiken> add isnt a accepted argument for ufw shomon
[18:52] <shomon> ah sorry then I didn't read it properly
[18:52] <lesnik_> hi
[18:52] <claviusmond> I havent tried to change my appereance preferences at all, but somehow they have changed: now I dont see white text over black background, but the other way round, and the minimize close icons are back to top right, not top left, what is going on?
[18:52] <BluesKaj> getting some strange behaviour with scp -r copying a folder to another linux machine on our network ...it's copying the whole /home/user directory rather than /home/user/folder
[18:52] <nimbiotics> hello all, Is there any program that would allow me to manipulate and ISO file? eg; I need to delete a folder within the iso file. Can this be done? I tried acetoneiso,  but it does not allow me to delete folders. TIA!
[18:52] <claviusmond> and how do i revert?
[18:53] <daanish> What's the easiest way to install Adobe Air on an amd64 system?
[18:54] <edbian> nimbiotics: you can mount (and then edit?) the iso
[18:54] <thehodge> okay it turns out i was being an idiot and fixed my last question with a simple apt get
[18:54] <shomon> nmvictor I have this acer laptop, which had windows until it crashed and I couldn't get in again, so I'm trying to figure out what is broken
[18:54] <thehodge> however I still cannot get this cronjob running at all...
[18:54] <kitche> daanish: most likely from adobe website
[18:54] <shomon> it keeps crashing even with linux on it
[18:54] <miceiken> Anyone?
[18:54] <miceiken> Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/tmp/mysql.sock' (2) - I am gettng this error, any easy fix?
[18:54] <joru> edbian: quickly --verbose design returns /bin/sh: glade-3: not found
[18:54] <drhead> ubuntu-desktop is just a package marked with tons of dependencies and doesn't contain anything important, right?
[18:55] <joru> edbian: only got glade here
[18:55] <kitche> miceiken: is the mysql server started?
[18:55] <shomon> yes miceiken you need to open that port
[18:55] <edbian> joru: you have glad installed?
[18:55] <miceiken> kitche yes
[18:55] <edbian> glade*
[18:55] <joru> edbian: yes i can run it standalone
[18:55] <daanish> kitche: not really - they don't have a 64bit .deb yet
[18:55] <edbian> joru: is it version 3?
[18:55] <wildc4rd> evenin all
[18:55] <miceiken> shomon, wtf, the server is running just fine this is when a gameserver is trying to connect to my server
[18:56] <Escherial> hey, is there any way to prevent other apps from stealing focus when they launch? it's kind of annoying at first
[18:56] <kitche> daanish: and what's your point you can still install it it's multilib you would need to look into
[18:56] <edbian> joru: PM me?
[18:56] <lesnik_> I was using ubuntu 10.04 for about one year on my desktop. I don't know why but i decided to install 11.04 32 bit. After that suspend to ram not working anymore. Could you give me some advice where can I find cause of this? Which log should I check?
[18:56] <earthling> miceiken, look up my.cnf in /etc folder it will tell where the log file is.... in the log file u can see what the actual error is
[18:56] <joru> k
[18:56] <astraljava> drhead: You can always check the package's files with `dpkg -L <package>`, so you don't have to guess. :)
[18:56] <daanish> kitche - I was hoping there'd be a ppa with a 64bit deb somewhere
[18:56] <daanish> kitche - there used to be, it isn't working anymore
[18:57] <kitche> daanish: from what I seen Adobe doesn't even have a 64bit out at all for any operating system
[18:57] <lucian> hello. i'm on maverick ARM, using unity-2d. i have a problem, maximised windows still have a title bar, with window controls too. so i get two sets of button tontrols
[18:57] <Escherial> actually, have to go, but thank you to whoever was contemplating an answer :3
[18:57] <nimbiotics> hello all, Is there any program that would allow me to manipulate and ISO file? eg; I need to delete a folder within the iso file. Can this be done? I tried acetoneiso,  but it does not allow me to delete folders. TIA!
[18:57] <miceiken> earthling, there are no errors since yesterday
[18:57] <miceiken> and they are totally irrelevant to this
[18:57] <daanish> kitche - yes, but people have made 64 bit debs themselves.. it doesn't matter anyway I recompiled it myself using it myself. Thanks anyway
[18:58] <earthling> miceiken, what about disk space usage df -h
[18:58] <lesnik_> nimbiotics: try to use mc
[18:58] <miceiken> ive got plenty of space
[18:58] <drhead> How do I find out what package a file belongs to?
[18:59] <polygon-pusher> hello everyone
[18:59] <nimbiotics> lesnik_: what is mc?
[18:59] <thejam> Also, I didn't see your reply daanish, I'll check it now, thanks.
[18:59] <polygon-pusher> I have a video card problem I was hoping someone could help me out with
[18:59] <daanish> thejam you're welcome
[18:59] <daanish> thejam hope it helps
[18:59] <polygon-pusher> I installed cuda but after I words I could only get the terminal.
[18:59] <OmegaForte> polygon-pusher, What's the issue?
[18:59] <earthling> miceiken, so the file /var/log/mysql.err empty ? bummer ...
[19:00] <lesnik_> nimbiotics: midnight commander
[19:00] <mobidyc_> oin #ubuntu-fr
[19:00] <polygon-pusher> I have since removed my xorg.conf to get back into the UI
[19:00] <nimbiotics> lesnik_: THX
[19:00] <polygon-pusher> sorry not removed but renamed
[19:00] <OmegaForte> polygon-pusher, So do you need a new xorg.conf file?
[19:00] <polygon-pusher> I think so
[19:00] <polygon-pusher> maybe a reconfig
[19:00] <miceiken> earthling, yes. where is the mysql.sock supposed to be?
[19:00] <miceiken> by default config
 I already have it on a USB, but I am having trouble skipping the Installer, is there a way to bypass the installer?
[19:01] <polygon-pusher> not sure how to start that
[19:01] <wols> Eiriksvinr: alternate installer, that one's not a live cd
[19:01] <earthling> miceiken, dude it clearly says ... /tmp/mysql.sock
[19:01] <ThinkT510> Eiriksvinr: it sounds to me you want a persistant install (not a liveusb install)
[19:01] <ThinkT510> !usb | Eiriksvinr
[19:01] <OmegaForte> polygon-pusher, Easy enough. Reboot into recovery mode, boot failsafe graphics, select reconfigure X, choose default x config.
[19:01] <miceiken> earthling, yes and clearly that isnt the default place for it to be
[19:02] <miceiken> since its not there
[19:02] <polygon-pusher> thank you
[19:02] <ThinkT510> Eiriksvinr: see the last link there?
[19:02] <kitche> miceiken: that is the default place for it to be you have to figure out why mysql is not making the .sock
[19:02] <Eiriksvinr> yeah, I see it
[19:02] <miceiken> ln -s /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock /tmp/mysql.sock
[19:02] <miceiken> that fixed it
[19:02] <Eiriksvinr> I'm checking into it now
[19:02] <earthling> miceiken, what is the command u use to connect to mysql ?
[19:02] <miceiken> thanks for nothing :)
[19:02] <Eiriksvinr> thanks
[19:03] <earthling> pffff........
[19:04] <Unknown_Frequenc> Hi everyone. I'm kinda new to Linux and played around with some "chmod, adduser, addgroup and chown" in a folder called "test" I created in my home folder. Suddently I got got error "username is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported."
[19:04] <Unknown_Frequenc> Any idea what could have caused this?
[19:04] <astraljava> drhead: dpkg -S <file> will list packages that provide a file.
[19:05] <edbian> Unknown_Frequenc: adduser and addgroup are not restricted to a folder and do not take effect until a restart ;)
[19:05] <Unknown_Frequenc> but how could I have unset my sudo rights?
[19:06] <edbian> Unknown_Frequenc: by removing yourself from the admin group, editing the sudoers file, or switching users entirely
[19:06] <wols> Unknown_Frequenc: no. run sudo again. sudo rights are managed by /etc/sudoers
[19:06] <Unknown_Frequenc> ahh.. I guess I messed with the user groups
[19:06] <Unknown_Frequenc> i know.. I managed to fix it again by rebooting in safe mode and visudo
[19:06] <edbian> Unknown_Frequenc: :)  Make sure you're in the admin group
[19:07] <Unknown_Frequenc> how do I do that? I just changed /etc/sudoer and added my username agaIN
[19:07] <Unknown_Frequenc> that's enough right?
[19:07] <Eiriksvinr> Ok, I'm looking into the best option for being a stand alone mobile Ubuntu and the Startup Disk creator option seems to be the best, does it save all of my settings, and can it be used on any computer (so long as its compatible)?
[19:08] <mobidyc_>  #ubuntu-fr
[19:08] <edbian> Unknown_Frequenc: In ubuntu instead of having individual users in the sudoers file they have an admin group.  Anyone in the admin group can sudo.  http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-linux-add-user-to-group/
[19:08] <rizzuh_laptop> How do I set the notifications delay? I think they stay visible for way too long and they block a very imporant section of my IDE.
[19:08] <Unknown_Frequenc> oki, i'll read that. thanks man!
[19:09] <ThinkT510> Eiriksvinr: it will boot on any pc that can boot from usb (and is set to do so in the bios)
[19:09] <Unknown_Frequenc> last question. how can I see which group i'm part of?'
[19:09] <ThinkT510> id
[19:09] <maujhsn> WHILE TRYING TO BOOT INTO UBUNTU FROM THE WINDOWS BOOT MANAGER
[19:09] <maujhsn> THE UBUNTU SCREEN MESSAGE READS AS FOLLOWS:
[19:09] <maujhsn> "AN ERROR HAS OCCURRED WHILE MOUNTING
[19:09] <FloodBot1> maujhsn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:09] <Eiriksvinr> ThinkT510: right, thats what I'm looking for
[19:10] <edbian> Unknown_Frequenc: groups
[19:10] <edbian> Unknown_Frequenc: just run 'groups' at the cli
[19:10] <lyff> Help (sorry for my english) I've installed ubuntu on my vista on a partition of 20go, but when i boot my pc i can find boot choice
[19:10] <appi_uppi> hi need help in configuriong dyndns
[19:10] <Unknown_Frequenc> oki. Thanks again
[19:10] <edbian> Unknown_Frequenc: sure
[19:10] <lyff> *i can't find boot choice
[19:10] <wmp> hello, i want to install ubutnu alternate on VirtualBox, but ubuntu say to me that havent kernel to my machine
[19:10] <appi_uppi> followed the steps provided in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[19:10] <Eiriksvinr> ThinkT510: its easy to hit f2 or esc or whatever and change the boot options temporarily, or even perm, but I just needed to know that
[19:10] <Unknown_Frequenc> and I just add myself to 'admin' group
[19:11] <seclm193> How is everything today?
[19:11] <ThinkT510> Eiriksvinr: good stuff :) enjoy your persistant install
[19:12] <edbian> Unknown_Frequenc: you have to reboot (or log out and back in) for group / user changes to take effect
[19:12] <Eiriksvinr> ThinkT510: my only problem is, when I drop my USB into my home PC I can't access the files I download and I have to sync my Firefox all the time
[19:12] <edbian> Unknown_Frequenc: yes, add yourself to admin and you should be able to sudo (as long as %admin is in /etc/sudoers)
[19:13] <Eiriksvinr> I have to boot my USB, transfer files, restart, then transfer them again
[19:13] <ThinkT510> Eiriksvinr: you should be able to access whatever you download
[19:13] <Narc> Hello everyone. I'm trying to transfer files between two 11.04 boxes with empathy over XMPP (Jabber) to no avail. Any advice please ? Thanks a lot.
[19:13] <Eiriksvinr> Ok, so the new persistant USB will fix that?
[19:14] <joo__> Does anyone have a solution for getting multidisplay easily working without using gnome and kde?
[19:14] <seclm193> Obamaisjesus, don't like the nick
[19:14] <joo__> And without being a xorg-config-guru ?
[19:14] <Unknown_Frequenc> it is. When I do "groups" in cli i get two groups. "test" & "workgroup" (which I created) When I do "useradd -G username admin" it says "useradd: user 'unknown' already exists"
[19:14] <dr_willis> joo__:  for my nvidia cards and twinview. it works with most every window manager out there..
[19:14] <seclm193> Is kde known to work better with radeon cards?
[19:14] <joo__> ok, sadly i use ati... i know nvidia has a tool that writes xorg.conf
[19:15] <EgyParadox> wmp: try sudo modprobe vboxdrv
[19:15] <wmp> EgyParadox: emmm, but i wnat to install ubuntu alternate on guest system on virtualbox
[19:15] <dr_willis> joo__:  ati used to have a similer tool. but its been years..  the xorg.conf for nvidia just  has like one line in it  Twinview "on"  so its not too complex.
[19:15] <wmp> EgyParadox: host is windows7
[19:15] <ThinkT510> Eiriksvinr: yes, the persistant install is practically the same as a harddisk install
[19:16] <Eiriksvinr> ThinkT510: this is going to be great, I'll just dump all the language packages, and junk I don't need, clean it up so It's as small as I can get it... then run from there
[19:16] <alaing> how do i copy all files/folders from one directory to another from the command line
[19:16] <dr_willis> joo__:  an issuc could be if you are using the fglrx drivers. or the open sourced ati drivers i imagine. The Open driver may not have all the features.
[19:16] <dr_willis> alaing:  cp -R foo bar
[19:16] <edbian> alaing: cp -R /path/to/source/* /path/to/dest/
[19:17] <alaing> thanks dr_willis and edbian
[19:17] <edbian> sure
[19:17] <seclm193> Dr_willis, you familiar with reassertion drivers?
[19:17] <appi_uppi> hi please help me in configuring dyndns on ubuntu
[19:17] <dr_willis> seclm193:  never heard of them.
[19:17] <lyff> I go to boot menu but there is only Vista, but i know i have ubuntu because in windows 20go have disepear on my DD
[19:17] <seclm193> Radeon I mean
[19:17] <dr_willis> appi_uppi:  many routers these days have built in dyndns servers.
[19:17] <dr_willis> seclm193:  i dont use ati unless i cant help it. :)
[19:17] <Eiriksvinr> I wonder if it would work well on an 8gb+ usb, cause I can just get like a 32gb and that would be perfect
[19:17] <EgyParadox> wmp: the installation didnt complete successfully?
[19:18] <wmp> EgyParadox: yes
[19:18] <joo__> dr_willis, actually none of the drivers really work for my imac24 - for an example i can't play video, - but multi display works fine... however I don't have the config skills to use anything else than gnome or kde where I can set it up with gui, but where it only sticks for theese environments.
[19:18] <dr_willis> joo__:  you are refering to a PPC imac?
[19:18] <seclm193> Dr_willis, its a laptop and can't help it.
[19:18] <appi_uppi> dr_willis, i'm trying to follow the steps given here root@srinivasa-laptop:/home/srinivasa# sudo /etc/init.d/ddclient status
[19:18] <appi_uppi> Status of Dynamic DNS service update utility: ddclient is running.
[19:18] <appi_uppi> root@srinivasa-laptop:/home/srinivasa# ps -aef | grep sshd
[19:18] <appi_uppi> root       582     1  0 Aug02 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/sshd -D
[19:18] <appi_uppi> root      5311  4105  0 00:34 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color=auto sshd
[19:18] <FloodBot1> appi_uppi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:18] <joo__> dr_willis, no it is intel
[19:18] <Eiriksvinr> I have a 500gb USB Desktop HDD will it work on that?
[19:18] <ThinkT510> Eiriksvinr: should work fine (my harddisk installs are always under 10gb)
[19:18] <appi_uppi> that was mistake
[19:19] <dr_willis> joo__:  ok. :) i sold my ppc imac the other week.. it ran linux.. poorly.
[19:19] <appi_uppi> dr_willis, sorry for that paste, i have followed the steps given in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[19:19] <Eiriksvinr> It's small and portable, but great amount of space
[19:19] <appi_uppi> dr_willis, looks like some problem with dyndns setup
[19:19] <EgyParadox> wmp| !md5
[19:20] <EgyParadox> !md5 | wmp
[19:20] <wmp> EgyParadox: in windows7? :)
[19:20] <wmp> O
[19:20] <alaing> how do I delete a folder and all files from the command line?
[19:20] <joo__> alaing, rm -r folder
[19:20] <edbian> alaing: rm -r /path/to/folder    be careful, there is not trash or undo
[19:20] <edbian> alaing: rmdir for an empty folder
[19:20] <dr_willis> alaing:   You really may want to go spend some time reading some command line basics guides.. :)
[19:20] <dr_willis> !terminal
[19:21] <alaing> thanks guys
[19:21] <Eiriksvinr> I have a 500gb USB Desktop HDD will it work on that as a persistant drive?
[19:21] <alaing> dr_willis: i'll work through that tutorial
[19:22] <RafaelRistovski> hello
[19:22] <OmegaForte> RafaelRistovski, Hellote.
[19:22] <RafaelRistovski> Can I somehow install ubuntu on external HDD?
[19:22] <RafaelRistovski> hi
[19:22] <OmegaForte> RafaelRistovski, Yeah. Just set it as the install point.
[19:22] <edbian> RafaelRistovski: sure, why not?
[19:23] <Eiriksvinr> I'm trying to install Ubuntu onto mine as a Persistant USB drive, since it is USB, and yet its a 500gb USB HDD, will it work on that?
[19:24] <edbian> Eiriksvinr: Just install it to the external hdd the normal way you'd install it to an internal hdd.
[19:24] <edbian> Eiriksvinr: telling Ubuntu it's a persistent USB is not going to help.
[19:25] <Eiriksvinr> will it be mobile like my USB?
[19:25] <RafaelRistovski> how much space does Ubuntu need in order to install?
[19:25] <Narc> Hello everyone. I'm trying to transfer files between two 11.04 PC with empathy over XMPP (Jabber) to no avail. The file transfer just hangs, not doing anything. We both forwarded our 5222, 8080 and 8010 TCP ports. Any advice please, it's driving me nuts. ? Thanks a lot.
[19:25] <Eiriksvinr> 2gb, but you can slim it down
[19:25] <wmp> EgyParadox: md5 sum is good
[19:25] <edbian> Eiriksvinr: yes
[19:25] <edbian> RafaelRistovski: about 2 or 3 Gb
[19:25] <ThinkT510> RafaelRistovski: depends what you are going to install on it
[19:26] <RafaelRistovski> So I can install it on an USB stick?
[19:26] <ThinkT510> sure
[19:26] <edbian> RafaelRistovski: yeah
[19:26] <RafaelRistovski> WOW
[19:26] <RafaelRistovski> thats really COOL!
[19:26] <ThinkT510> !usb | RafaelRistovski
[19:26] <edbian> RafaelRistovski: Yeah it's awesome
[19:26] <jerryg> hi
[19:26] <Eiriksvinr> good, going to it, thanks for the info guys... #Ubuntu is the best place for Live support!!! yay!!
[19:26] <sasquatch7> Anyone know how to send text messages via a modem in linux?
[19:26] <jerryg> both sudoedit and visudo won't open /etc/sudoers http://codepad.org/pyXeD5Uc
[19:27] <Pici> jerryg: can you use sudo at all?
[19:27] <claviusmond> GEDIT, I need to save a file with gedit but in a predetermined encoding, ISO western something, how do I do that?
[19:28] <naptastic> Is it just me or are the Maverick repositories completely screwed up right now?
[19:28] <ThinkT510> jerryg: its not sudo visudo, its just visudo
[19:29] <naptastic> All I'm trying to do is install libboost-dev-all and it spews a list of dependencies that can't be met.  I've tried forcing versions to what they're supposed to be, to no avail.
[19:30] <EgyParadox> wmp:Did you try to install it on your PC? (not virtual machine)
[19:31] <wmp> EgyParadox: yes, work
[19:32] <EgyParadox> then it might be a virtualbox issue sadly I can't help you try #vbox
[19:33] <wmp> EgyParadox: other distribuction work
[19:34] <jerryg> ThinkT510: jerryg@blackhawk:~$ visudo
[19:34] <jerryg> visudo: /etc/sudoers: Permission denied
[19:34] <ThinkT510> jerryg: have you edited it previously?
[19:35] <jerryg> ThinkT510: yes. with sudoedit. but I think it saved to /tmp
[19:35] <ThinkT510> jerryg: and what exactly did you edit?
[19:36] <jerryg> ThinkT510: I just added a -->  jerryg = (root) NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/dmidecode
[19:36] <jerryg> which may have a syntax error.  how do I edit /etc/sudoers  ?
[19:36] <ylmfos> hihi
[19:37] <ThinkT510> jerryg: can i pm you?
[19:37] <jerryg> ThinkT510: please do.
[19:38] <ocp> hello, can somebody help me out with this bash, im not sure whats wrong, http://pastebin.com/6WyaU0wE
[19:38] <ocp> it keeps telling me Usage: find [-H] [-L] [-P] [-Olevel] [-D help|tree|search|stat|rates|opt|exec] [path...] [expression]
[19:38] <ocp> ./refresh.sh: line 17: -exec: command not found
[19:39] <GwarTheTrolle> Hi guys. I am using xmodmap to remap my "back" key on my mouse to middle click. is there a way I can also map my "forward" key to middle click?
[19:43] <sasquatch7> Anyone setup or know much about email to sms?
[19:45] <caaakeeey> hey, whats the best ami to use on amazon?
[19:47] <Pici> ocp: I'm not sure how lines 8 and 9 are working properly, but you could also change that mess of -names into a proper -regex
[19:47] <ocp> what is regex ?
[19:47] <ocp> sorry im new
[19:47] <AviMarcus> Hey folks. Where does empathy keep it's logs and settings? I just migrated from 10.04 to 11.04 on a fresh install.. trying to not redo as many settings as possible.
[19:48] <ThinkT510> AviMarcus: my guess would be ~/.empathy
[19:48] <AviMarcus> mine too, but it doesn't exist
[19:49] <Pici> ocp: regular expression. something like: find /var/www/downloads -regextype posix-egrep -regex '.*\.(rmvb|wmv|ogg|ogv|mpg|mpeg)$' -exec mv "{}" /var/www/garbage/ \;
[19:49] <AviMarcus> .config/empathy has some stuff there, but not the logs or login credentials
[19:49] <Pici> ocp: The folks in #bash might have a better way of doing it too, but thats what I would recommend.
[19:49] <ocp> thanks ill try that
[19:50] <claviusmond> OPENOFFICE, i have a 7000 page doc, I need to select only the lines starting with "1", can that be done?
[19:50] <ocp> Pici it says find: missing argument to `-exec'
[19:51] <AviMarcus> claviusmond, within open office? if you save it as a regular text of a sort, you can easily grep it
[19:51] <appi_uppi> hi need help http://pastebin.com/wNZ1Xrhy
[19:51] <Pici> ocp: Make sure that you put the \; at the end
[19:51] <GwarTheTrolle> Hi guys. I am using xmodmap to remap my "back" key on my mouse to middle click. is there a way I can also map my "forward" key to middle click as well?
[19:51] <immortalz> dr_willis: Here ? We talked about a computer that i ram ram tests on and they passed a few days ago. Its still acting weird. If i turn the computer on the first time i get no theme for the panel and top bars of the windows and the mouse moves seriously skiddish and slow so i have to reboot and then suddenly the mouse moves fine but the theme is still not working. What can the problem be ?..
[19:51] <claviusmond> AviMarcus, grep? does that come in the default installation?
[19:52] <bill> hello
[19:52] <AviMarcus> It's a command line tool, claviusmond
[19:52] <bill> just checking x-chat
[19:52] <claviusmond> a, lol
[19:52] <bill> is there a better program for ubuntu? i mean for irc
[19:52] <immortalz> dr_willis: "run ram tests on/.."
[19:52] <AviMarcus> e.g. "grep ^1 filename" I think would work
[19:52] <AviMarcus> bill, I settled on x-chat..
[19:52] <polygon-pusher> is there an app that I can change what I see in grub to set which boot options I have?
[19:53] <AviMarcus> it let me separate the windows I wanted to..
[19:53] <exxtreme> bill..pidgin
[19:54] <immortalz> Hmm, its actually "ran ramtests on" but anyhoot :)
[19:57] <immortalz> AviMarcus: Xchat always rocked.
[19:58] <wernerdev> Hey everyone, any change Netatalk 2.2 final will find it's way into the original Natty repo?
[19:58] <wernerdev> Or is it just not going to happen?
[19:58] <wernerdev> *chance
[19:59] <Celerooon> hi
[19:59] <Celerooon> i have very big problem with wifi
[19:59] <Celerooon> on windows, slackware and debian wifi works fine
[19:59] <ThinkT510> !backports | wernerdev
[20:00] <Celerooon> but on ubuntu, wifi is very slow
[20:00] <AviMarcus> immortalz, kinda. I recompiled it to show the #channel at the start of the titlebar info
[20:00] <immortalz> wernerdev: Cool, the old apple chat program. Ssh and talk works on apple too right ?
[20:00] <wernerdev> Yeh I know about backports and launchpad.net but I was wondering if it gets put into the official repo also?
[20:01] <wernerdev> immortalz: It's not a chat program...
[20:01] <immortalz> AviMarcus: Sometimes its very handy to be able to do some patchings etc. One beauty of the ways of open source :)
[20:01] <immortalz> wernerdev: Oh, whats it for ... checking with google...
[20:02] <Celerooon> ah, my wifi device is atheros
[20:02] <wernerdev> immortalz: It enables Linux to connect with Macs using AFP protocol.
[20:02] <hoopjumping> Hi, I got an NTFS hard drive in a windows machine, suffered a crash. I was hoping to backup files from it, but I'm unable to mount it in ubuntu as the MFT is corrupt. Can I fix it from within linux? I don't have a windows boot cd
[20:03] <stealz> I installed a custon Icon theme on Ubuntu 10.04 and it replaced the firefox icon with the IE icon. Can anyone help me revert this change?
[20:03] <stealz> Installing a different icon set didnt fix it obviously
[20:04] <Celerooon> someone can help me? :(
[20:04] <immortalz> wernerdev: Saw it, sounds nice. Do kernel devs (packagers etc) have to sync their patchings or is it like a userland implementation ?
[20:04] <hoopjumping> when I try to open the drive, it says "mount exited code 18, failed to load $MFT"
[20:05] <hoopjumping> then failed to mount /dev/sdd1 no such file or directory
[20:05] <immortalz> wernerdev: nfs kernel patches and userland tools. Something similar ?
[20:05] <wernerdev> immortalz: Don't know about that.
[20:06] <wernerdev> ThinkT510: It's not in Backports... I am just asking if someone knows how Ubuntu handles new Stable updates...
[20:06] <ThinkT510> !latest | wernerdev
[20:07] <immortalz> wernerdev: I can imagine that its of interrest to kernelmongers to know this if they want to add nettalk... modules etc so it wont slow down kernel releases due to future incompatibilities and so on.
[20:07] <Pici> wernerdev: 2.2~beta4-1 is in Oneiric, you could see about getting it backported I suppose.
[20:09] <immortalz> wernerdev: Backporting is often just a matter of recompiling it. The kernel interface doesnt change very often so that could be a nice way of atleast testing it and later perhaps release packages for it.
[20:09] <wernerdev> Pici: I know, it was also on PPA. But 2.2 Final got released some days ago. And I was wondering now that 2.2 is Final (no unstable beta) if it might be put into the stable official repo. But I guess the answer is no...
[20:09] <Pici> wernerdev: If anything it would land in -backports, or if this was a security fix, in -updates.
[20:10] <marriedman624> I am a super noob with linux/ubuntu but, can anyone point me to a tutorial on how to get an Atheros AR5001 wireless card to work on Natty Narwhal (11.04)?
[20:10] <Celerooon> marriedman624 i have the same problem
[20:10] <wernerdev> Pici: I guess it won't count as a security update. Since it goes from 1.x to 2.x
[20:10] <immortalz> wernerdev: I say yes, if it works as ok as the current packages. The latest is often the greatest, but in some cases there are a few mismatches to be found.
[20:10] <marriedman624> I've tried madwifi (not sure if I did it right) and ndiswrapper but neither has worked
[20:11] <Trashi> hi guys. if my pc wakes up after standby, network is disabled but the network manager sais its enabled. but i cant see any wireless networks or s.th. like that. after a reboot all works fine. does anybody know that problem?
[20:11] <wernerdev> Pici: My bad: 2.1 to 2.2. New release, no security update...
[20:11] <immortalz> wernerdev: Works good if you compile and install it yourself ?
[20:11] <Pici> wernerdev: It depends what was changed, sometimes version numbers get changed arbitraraly.
[20:12] <marriedman624> can i update/install current madwifi driver from terminal? If so, what is the syntax to accomplish this?
[20:12] <immortalz> Pici: Lol, do they ?
[20:12] <wernerdev> immortalz: Tried compiling the 2.2b4 but didn't succeed. Gave up because it was on PPA already. Might try 2.2 Final again in a VM.
[20:12] <Pici> immortalz: Its up to the developers what they want to do.
[20:12] <immortalz> wernerdev: Do that.
[20:13] <Celerooon> marriedman624 I don't know :(
[20:13] <wernerdev> Pici: Well this update is important since it enables compatibility with the latest OS X (10.7).
[20:13] <immortalz> Pici: Developers never just change version numbers without reason. They are always very thurough by nature.
[20:13] <AviMarcus> OK so I found where empathy stores it's stuff and copied it and that didn't work..
[20:14] <lortech> has anyone had sucsess with zoneminder install on ubuntu?
[20:14] <AviMarcus> ah. gnome-keyring.
[20:14] <Pici> wernerdev: You don't need to convince me, Have you looked at the SRU and backport information from ubottu?
[20:14] <wernerdev> Pici: Yes I did, but no luck.
[20:15] <wernerdev> Pici, immortalz: But I guess the bottom line is, there is no time path for final releases getting officially released. Just a matter of waiting or compile it myself...
[20:16] <marriedman624> Celerooon: Just a quick google search turned this up.........not sure if it still relevant  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros#KurianAlternative
[20:16] <marriedman624> I can't test right now cause I am at work
[20:16] <marriedman624> are you able to test that method right now?
[20:17] <immortalz> wernerdev: If you cant compile it although you have googled and given it your very very best shot then contact the developers and ask about it. Give them the exact error output from the compile and they will know what you need to do.
[20:17] <jvgeli> help. installed Fedora but didnt install Grub as I wanted to use Grub of Ubuntu. Now I am in Ubunu how do I get Grub to see Fedora, update-grub doesnt seem to work.
[20:18] <Celerooon> marriedman624 no, me too
[20:18] <maalac1> jvgeli: boot to rescue disk
[20:18] <Celerooon> I am at work
[20:18] <maalac1> jvgeli: chroot /mnt/sysimage
[20:18] <maalac1> grub-install
[20:18] <hoymkot> hello
[20:18] <immortalz> wernerdev: They should really speed up the QA and packaging process but its summertime so im sure theyll fix it as soon as they get back. Since its not a security issue..
[20:18] <hoymkot> helo
[20:19] <wernerdev> !sru
[20:19] <jvgeli> maalac1: is there any other way? while i am in Ubuntu?
[20:20] <immortalz> hoymkot: HELO: This is sendmail version 0.0.1 how may i serve your request :)
[20:20] <wernerdev> Ok thanks!
[20:20] <immortalz> Np
[20:20] <jtannenbaum> I'm on 10.04 and apt-get keeps telling me to update linux headers and stuff but I'm too afraid to update or upgrade to any higher version of Ubuntu without a clean install.. what should I do (besides a clean install)?
[20:21] <dr_willis> jtannenbaum:  thats not  updateing to  the next release.. just a newer kernel.
[20:21] <jtannenbaum> either way doing either of those things has often broken/messed up my install in the past
[20:22] <immortalz> jtannenbaum: Yep, shouldnt be a problem.
[20:22] <jtannenbaum> it's either compiz that goes or the wireless internet
[20:22] <dr_willis> jtannenbaum:  thats why they keep the older kernels in the grub menu...
[20:22] <jtannenbaum> true
[20:22] <dr_willis> jtannenbaum:  do what you want.. if you decided not to.. well.. thats that.
[20:22] <jtannenbaum> why can't something unuseful break like the screen magnifier
[20:22] <immortalz> jtannenbaum: Should it fail then reboot using the kernel that worked before ;)
[20:23] <dr_willis> ive rarely had update issues breaking things in the past..  now Upgrading to the next release.. that can be an issue.. :)
[20:23] <jtannenbaum> also, melt keeps appearing on my update list but I can never update it
[20:24] <xemacs4321> i am having hwclock issues, when i reboot clock is not reset to local time , how to fix ?
[20:24] <Pokit> I recently updated (i think there was a kernel update), and now when I try to boot into ubuntu (11.04), the screen goes black and it just sits there... If i hit ctrl+alt+delete, it shows the shell and then restarts.
[20:24] <immortalz> dr_willis: yep, i think the new scrollbars sucks. Luckily they can be reverted to the old style (As the developers intended:)
[20:25] <dr_willis> immortalz:  new scrollbars have their pros and cons. Im used to them. because they work about the same as they do on my android phone
[20:25] <dr_willis> I can think of bigger issues then scrollbars
[20:25] <OmegaForte> Yeah, like no jockey yet.
[20:26] <ishido_> How can I run Ubuntu on very slow computer?
[20:26] <immortalz> dr_willis: I think they are horrible. I can however see their use on a small screen, such as a cellphone.
[20:26] <dr_willis> ishido_:  Huh? Install it and run it..
[20:26] <dr_willis> ishido_:  lubuntu is good for low end machines.
[20:27] <claviusmond> with GREP, can I export the product back to libreoffice calc and rewrite it exactly where it was before?
[20:27] <astraljava> jtannenbaum: Why can't you update melt? Can you give us an example?
[20:28] <astraljava> Pokit: If it shows you VT when rebooting, you _should_ be able to switch into one with Alt+F[1-6], which in turn should give you a login prompt. Can you try that?
[20:28] <Pokit> astraljava: didn't even think of trying that.... lol.  I'll do that, thanks.
[20:29]  * brewster loiters
[20:29] <astraljava> Pokit: Sorry, Ctrl+Alt+F[1-6]
[20:29] <Pokit> ok
[20:31] <comfortsuites> my ISP requires that when I open my browser window I have to click and accept the Agreement before i am allowed access. how do i get around this
[20:31] <comfortsuites> whats the command to the the IP address of this comp
[20:32] <comfortsuites> *to see
[20:32] <immortalz> <IP_ADDRESS>
[20:32] <comfortsuites> immortalz that is my ip?
[20:32] <Msh100> comfortsuites, public or private?
[20:33] <comfortsuites> public
[20:33] <Msh100> Then yes, what immortalz said most likely
[20:33] <comfortsuites> how do i get around clicking accept after periods of inactivity in my web browser?
[20:33] <immortalz> http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/<IP_ADDRESS> :)
[20:33] <rusef> Get a decent isp.
[20:33] <immortalz> Yeah, that looks baad :)
[20:34] <rusef> 'Quakertown' is a pretty awesome name for a town though.
[20:34] <immortalz> Baad to the bone, NanaNaHah... Bababba Baad :)
[20:35] <immortalz> MAC spoofing is also fun
[20:35] <jvgeli> help. installed Fedora 15 but didnt install Grub as I wanted to use Grub of Ubuntu Natty. Now I am in Ubuntu how do I get Grub to see Fedora, update-grub doesnt seem to work.
[20:35] <astraljava> comfortsuites: I don't think you can. Their servers require this, and your connection runs through them, so I don't think there's anything you can do.
[20:37] <ck_> quit
[20:37] <ck_> exit
[20:38] <ck_> #quit
[20:38] <immortalz> jvgeli: Documentation is good. Have an old copy of grub.conf ? then toss the latest boot entry into the new grub.conf and if that doesnt work then modify the hd(x,x) parameter until it does.
[20:38] <wernerdev> immortalz: Just a quick one, just compiled Netatalk 2.2 without errors. Any tutorials on how to create a package from it?
[20:40] <immortalz> wernerdev: Debian has good info on how to do this. I just make software so youll have to package it yourself. If you hang around, and you can verify that it works ok, then im sure the people here are interrested.
[20:40] <designbybeck> Has anyone tried to run Shutter (screen capture tool) in Ubuntu 11.04?
[20:41] <designbybeck> I get this: :~$ shutter
[20:41] <designbybeck> WARNING: Net::DBus::GLib is missing --> Ubuntu One support will be disabled!
[20:41] <wernerdev> immortalz: Well point is that I don't want to put all the Build dependencies on my server. Thats why I want to build and make a DEB file from it on my VM.
[20:43] <wernerdev> immortalz: I read something about dh-make, is that the right way to search? Or is there an easier way?
[20:43] <Viaken> Does anyone know of a way to create a beep on click? I'm working with a touchscreen and it'd be nice to get some feedback when a touch is recognized.
[20:43] <witeshark> has anyone solved wireless not working in 11.04?
[20:44] <immortalz> wernerdev: I see, although the space that would take up would be very nominal. Perhaps an increased security risk if you have users with shells on the boxes, but otherwise perfectly ok on both aspects. Linux and Apple people have almost always been friends so that should not be a problem to get this new release into testing and rolled out etc.
[20:45] <immortalz> wernerdev: I think you unpack the source of the previous nettalk package, change the source and the build files (spec files or whatever) and then build a new package.
[20:45] <wernerdev> immortalz: Well I just like to keep everything clean :). Because using ./compile and make doesn't install it. So that also still needs to happen. As you understand, except compiling I never installed a compiled package...
[20:46] <immortalz> wernerdev: Once you have achieved a clean build you can show packagers how you did it by supplying the specifications for it.
[20:47] <wernerdev> immortalz: So there is no easy way of testing it myself?
[20:47] <xemacs4321> when my system reboot hwclock is not reset to local time what file do i chagne to fix this ? (sorry 2nd try for this)
[20:48] <wernerdev> immortalz: Or is sudo check install enough?
[20:48] <wernerdev> immortalz: sudo checkinstall
[20:48] <immortalz> wernerdev: ./configure (Insert path and other parameters here such as --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/xyz etc) "make" ... "make install" to install the program. Or is this an install that deviates some from the GNU way (m4 macros etc) ?
[20:49] <manager> hi
[20:49] <immortalz> wernerdev: I think checkinstall needs another parameter to also make a .deb package
[20:49] <immortalz> wernerdev: Thats how i would have made it anyhow.
[20:49] <manager> join #tamanku
[20:50] <immortalz> manager: tuttifrutti ? :)
[20:50] <wernerdev> immortalz: Ok, well I can try it in VM first. But creating a DEB package is a lot more complicated then just running one command I understand.
[20:51] <immortalz> wernerdev: No, not really. The packages are created in large clusters of computers.
[20:52] <shomon> hi, I just followed a tutorial on grub linked here earlier, and I've gone from a frozen blank screen to a frozen login screen.. a definite improvement
[20:52] <Reaper> lol if you say so
[20:52] <shomon> I can now use all the function keys for terminals, alt sysrq keys etc
[20:52] <rushfan54> my sound stopped working after a reboot.  i looked in the sound settings and tried every sound device that was listed.  i also looked in alsamixer to check the sound levels.  all the levels are looking correct.  im completely lost.
[20:53] <shomon> but how can I find out what is wrong or if x is to blame?
[20:53] <wernerdev> immortalz: Well thanks for your information. I will try and find some more information on Google.
[20:54] <astraljava> wernerdev: You can certainly test the application by running `sudo checkinstall` in the directory where you built it with `./configure && make`, but that won't do as an official .deb package that you have in the archives.
[20:54] <Tetsuo55> Hi
[20:54] <immortalz> wernerdev: A good call, i know youll be able to fix it.
[20:54] <Tetsuo55> is there any way to verify the system files are ok like windows's SFC command?
[20:55] <breezer> yay home in time after my bellringing, well at least for people to be here and the music going.. I missed the live podcast though didn't I? usually started/starts 8.30ish
[20:55] <robotti^> Hello
[20:55] <robotti^> I have problem
[20:55] <breezer> hi
[20:55] <wernerdev> astraljava: I know, but I want to compile it on my VM, and then install the compiled package on my server. There is no easy way for that I understand.
[20:55] <robotti^> I removed Ubuntu by formatting harddrive and then installing Windows 7, and now computer cannot boot
[20:55] <robotti^> there is grub error message
[20:56] <robotti^> error: unknown filesystem. grub rescue>
[20:56] <robotti^> nobody?
[20:57] <shomon> no clue robotti sorry
[20:57] <robotti^> shomon: how to remove that grub from mbr?
[20:57] <OmegaForte> robotti^, Best I can say is force boot windows (by selecting the drive it's on as the boot device) and get a program called partition magic.
[20:58] <OmegaForte> robotti^, Or, reinstall linux, remove it but don't mess with grub.
[20:58] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: Do you have several hard-drives?
[20:58] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: two
[20:58] <robotti^> and windows on primary
[20:58] <robotti^> linux was too
[20:59] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: Then try swaping boot order from bios.
[20:59] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: it is first
[20:59] <shomon> you could get hiren's boot cd, it should have partiton magic, and 100 other things
[20:59] <andylockran> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/mobile/technology-14370878
[20:59] <Reaper> is mint another version of gnome?
[20:59] <robotti^> shomon: can it remove grub from mbr?
[20:59] <andylockran> anyone else see that?  ^^
[20:59] <Reaper> i did
[20:59] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: swap them anyway just for test. Windows should have overwritten the boot sector during install.
[20:59] <xangua> !mint | Reaper
[21:00] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: it loads from windows disk
[21:00] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: Sometimes however it may write its boot on a wrong drive.
[21:00] <robotti^> that grub
[21:00] <Reaper> well the reason I ask is if ubuntu is based on gnome, i was wondering if mint is based off of ubuntu (which is based off of gnome)
[21:01] <Reaper> any of that make sence?
[21:01] <astraljava> wernerdev: Why would you think it won't work?
[21:01] <OmegaForte> Reaper, Gnome is a user interface, homes. Ubuntu is based on Debian.
[21:01] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: yes, Im aware. But try swaping them anyway.
[21:01] <immortalz> Reaper: Lol, gnome is just the desktop (the graphical stuff you see).
[21:01] <OmegaForte> Reaper, And to the point; just about everything that runs in debian will run in ubuntu. That's why I'm here.
[21:01] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: now I just do it
[21:02] <astraljava> wernerdev: Sure, checkinstall might not specify the proper dependencies for the package, but since you have had to figure them out during the compile-phase, you should know what to install so that it will work on the other machine.
[21:02] <Reaper> oh wow lol
[21:02] <breezer> reaper, but mint is a ubuntu-like (and based) version of ubuntu, entirely supported by them not canonical
[21:02] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: blinnking cursor
[21:02] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: nothing else
[21:02] <Alexia_Death> Reaper: Gnome is a Desktop environment. just a set of programs.
[21:02] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: now what?
[21:03] <breezer> though did I hear (or confused with other distro?) that mint will use debian as base now/next release instead of ubuntu? I might be very wrong there
[21:03] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: do you have a CD for windows install?
[21:03] <wernerdev> astraljava: Yes but checkinstall installs it on the VM. I want an easy way to copy the compiled program to my working server without compiling it on the server itself.
[21:03] <astraljava> wernerdev: The only thing that would prevent the package from getting installed on the server, is that it's 32-bit, while the VM is 64-bit. And you can even get around that by creating a 32-bit chroot on the VM, and checkinstalling the package there.
[21:03] <breezer> you have shared data drives between them dont you werderdev?
[21:03] <breezer> I mean wernerdev
[21:04] <astraljava> wernerdev: No, checkinstall creates a .deb, it won't install it. You will still have to install the resulting .deb with dpkg.
[21:04] <OmegaForte> breezer, Ubuntu is debian. There's no hiding it. It uses .deb lackages. Biggest give away.
[21:04] <breezer> You can mount the same drives within vm..
[21:04] <Bernhard> Any dutch people ?????
[21:04] <astraljava> !nl | Bernhard
[21:04] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: Switch i back and follow this: http://www.ehow.com/how_4836283_repair-mbr-windows.html
[21:04] <breezer> OmegaForte, they're not the same thing; one uses the other, and takes a large portion of its stuff, but they are not quite the same thing.
[21:04] <wernerdev> breezer: I could do that yes.
[21:05] <wernerdev> astraljava: Really? Then that's what I am going to try now :P
[21:05] <OmegaForte> breezer, They're closer than any other debian clone. And if you're gonna split hairs, let's go ahead and metion OSX.
[21:05] <breezer> easy to copy it; program from one to another will install if it uses same/compatible versions of libraries between vm and real server. will be easier to run with a deb to install (and maybe your "make" has a target it can build that creates a debian package to make that easy)
[21:05] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: I removed secondery hd
[21:06] <immortalz> OmegaForte: Its more complex then that.
[21:06] <OmegaForte> immortalz, It's splitting hairs.
[21:06] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: did that help?
[21:06] <immortalz> OmegaForte: Its a wiggums :)
[21:06] <breezer> OmegaForte, lets NOT mention osx... u trolling? :)
[21:06] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: I am now trying to install Windows /
[21:06] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: no help
[21:07] <OmegaForte> breezer, Oh yeah man. I'm trolling so hard I'm bringing up a lightly modified darwin build that Apple is selling.
[21:07] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: If you dont have windows installed before then install it.
[21:07] <OmegaForte> breezer, Splitting hairs. Osx - Darwin - Debian.
[21:07] <immortalz> Trolls
[21:07] <Reaper> lost lol
[21:07] <robotti^> Alexia_Death: I already installed it and it does not worked, so I removed mbr and partitions.
[21:07] <Alexia_Death> robotti^: If you already have it, then the guie above is for you.
[21:07] <breezer> just thought osx was slightly irrelevant to current discussion, they're all unix/linux-ish but we're talking ubuntu/debian