[12:00] <Warbo> BioGeek: You can have "sparse files" which don't bother saving huge lenghts of zeros or ones, they just remember the number of them. That lets you have more data than drive space
[12:01] <Damn_it> ty
[12:01] <yipe> okay, I'm digging through man-pages, I'm trying to understand, and I don't, I'm trying to compile a new fresh kernel, I'm calling it <IP_ADDRESS>.Emperor what command do I need to put in to make the initrd file? Please be specific because obviously I am a retard today
[12:01] <Warbo> Damn_it: I was thinking of a similar idea (like a Free iTunes)
[12:01] <skavenge> whats the point with so many p2p programs
[12:01] <BioGeek> enyc: [4359990.639000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[12:01] <BioGeek> [4359990.639000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[12:01] <BioGeek> enyc: and that many many times...
[12:01] <Warbo> Damn_it: You may want to check out Democracy player (getdemocracy.org)
[12:02] <Damn_it> Warbo: yup that would entice media heads like me. that would be nirvana
[12:02] <enyc> BioGeek: ize seen that wany times
[12:02] <enyc> BioGeek: thats not entirely ususual
[12:02] <enyc> BioGeek: my debian system complains about  too many keys pressed ;-)
[12:02] <enyc> BioGeek: anyway
[12:02] <BioGeek> enyc: :-)
[12:03] <enyc> BioGeek: maybe I type too quickly on my Dvorak-layout IBM 1391406 model M clickykeyboard from 1987... dunno
[12:03] <Warbo> skavenge: There is harldy any PD/CC/FLOSS media in p2p networks
[12:03] <blanky> Warbo, yeah, I already forwarded the ports. In fact, this program (a dedicated server for a game I'm making), works perfectly in windows
[12:03] <BioGeek> enyc: The Ubuntu 6.06 CD is on it's way in the mail, so I was planning to do a fresh install anyway in a few weeks
[12:04] <Warbo> blanky: Funny, I can't get my router to forward ports :( (Well, at least I am actually on the Internet now. It was playing up yesterday)
[12:04] <enyc> BioGeek: kk that may magically cure it''' annoying though
[12:04] <skavenge> Warbo: i dont even know what any of that is ... by media i was assuming videos and music which are readily available on any p2p program
[12:04] <enyc> BioGeek: if you are going to wipe....
[12:04] <BioGeek> enyc: but I'm stuck for the moment though
[12:04] <blanky> Warbo, haha
[12:04] <blanky> Warbo, you tried going to http://<IP_ADDRESS>
[12:04] <enyc> BioGeek: please mail<EMAIL_ADDRESS>and let me knom what you found out ;-)....
[12:04] <enyc> BioGeek: and....
[12:04] <blanky> D-Link? Linksys?
[12:04] <BioGeek> enyc: can't even open manpages any more..
[12:04] <Warbo> skavenge: PD=Public Domain, FLOSS=Free/Libre Open Source Software (media under the GPL or FDL) CC-Creative Commons
[12:05] <BioGeek> enyc: OK, thanks anyway, you've been a great help.
[12:05] <skavenge> *shrug* i guess im not that specific with opensource .. im still going to download mp3s regardless
[12:05] <enyc> BioGeek: BEFORE re-using your harddisk (this will take a while btw), boot KNOPPIX with 'knoppix 2 dma noswap' at the knoppix bootprompt and 'badblocks -wvs /dev/hda'  ***This will ERASE everything permanetnly***
[12:05] <enyc> BioGeek: and (importantly) check for badsectors
[12:06] <pdc303> QRZ: I just installed Ubuntu Server on an old machine and bash/console does not automatically 'scroll' when it should - I must keep pressing 'Return' to make text scroll up. What could be the problem?
[12:06] <enyc> BioGeek: and/or cure futnny grown defects on the (potentially suspect) hdd
[12:06] <Warbo> skavenge: I download MP3s too. From Newgrounds though
[12:06] <pdc303> QRZ: oops. I didn't mean to hit tab and auto-complete your nick :)
[12:07] <godtvisken> I just installed ubuntu and have a 2.6.15-26-386 kernel. I need a 2.6.16 or later. Should I compile my own from source or is there an ubuntu-ish way to do this?
[12:08] <Warbo> The -26 kernel is out?
[12:08] <yipe> godtvisken, you and I are working on the same thing
[12:08] <BioGeek> enyc: OK, sounds scary but I'll give it a try and mail you the results.
[12:08] <Warbo> godtvisken: Compile your own I would say. It's not too difficult
[12:08] <yipe> I've been compliling myself, but the initrd has me completely confused
[12:08] <AngryElf> guys, I've tried both libdvdcss2 1.2.9 from seveas and 1.2.5-1 from the repositories?  and xine still tells me  "could not open /dev/dvd with libdvdcss"...ideas?
[12:08] <skavenge> Warbo: yes it is
[12:08] <skavenge> got it from updates a few days ago i think
[12:09] <Warbo> Well I am on -23 and will be for some time to come (I was annoyed when -18 became unsupported and I had to upgrade)
[12:09] <gatekeeper> godtvisken: there are howto's for kernel compiling in the ubuntu forums if you are interested
[12:09] <Warbo> yipe: What don't you get with the initrd?
[12:09] <enyc> BioGeek: its not scary really... its very good practice to haxe KNOPPIX and do 'memtest' boot  and 'knoppix 2 dma noswap'-followed-by-'badblocks -wvs /dev/hda'  before re-use of machine
[12:09] <yipe> how to do it
[12:10] <Warbo> yipe: You have installed the modules, yes?
[12:10] <yipe> I gotta mkinitrd .... but I just don't understand the syntax
[12:10] <yipe> yeah, just got done with that looooong bit
[12:10] <enyc> BioGeek: but you MUST note that badblocks with -w  WILL overwrite (destroy) everything
[12:10] <BioGeek> enyc: but for that I'll first have to burn a KNOPPIX CD, no?
[12:10] <enyc> BioGeek: well that would make sense... is that a problem?
[12:10] <yipe> it's just the initrd that I don't understand,
[12:10] <Warbo> yipe: I think it is just "mkinitramfs -o initrd.img <version>" Where <version> is the name of the directory in /lib/modules
[12:10] <interfear> I have an athlon x2, but im thinking i should stick with 32bit ubuntu right now? Any advice?
[12:11] <interfear> i havent installed yet
[12:11] <yipe> lemme give that a shot
[12:11] <Foobal> interfear: so wasted, if you stick to 32-bit :(
[12:11] <skavenge> Regardless of video format or what player im playing it in, my videos wash out white sporadically and randomly during an X session .. a restart of X fixes this, anyone have any ideas to why or how i can fix this? its quite annoying ..
[12:11] <sproingie> interfear: if you don't know that you need 64-bit for something, probably good to stick with 32 bit.  more stuff just works that way
[12:11] <AngryElf> guys, I've tried both libdvdcss2 1.2.9 from seveas and 1.2.5-1 from the repositories?  and xine still tells me  "could not open /dev/dvd with libdvdcss"...ideas?
[12:11] <BioGeek> enyc: I don't have a CD burner on this machine, but I'll make it on the Windows box.
[12:11] <veer>  j
[12:11] <skavenge> gstreamer backend, xine does it too ..
[12:11] <Seveas> AngryElf, please don't repeat...
[12:11] <Warbo> interfear: There is no real reason to use 64bit, but there is no reason not to unless you watch Flash movies, QuickTime and use WINE (although they are still possible to use in 64bit)
[12:12] <notamisfit> AngryElf: what are permissions on /dev/dvd?
[12:12] <sproingie> interfear: for a lot of games, you'll need 32bit
[12:12] <interfear> Warbo: what about mplayer codecs and stuff
[12:12] <notamisfit> libdvdcss needs write access to it
[12:12] <ardchoille> When I create a crontab for myself, where is that crontab info stored? Which file/directory?
[12:12] <Warbo> interfear: You may need a 32bit Mplayer installed, I'm not sure
[12:12] <compotatoj> I get an error saying XKB extension not enabled, how do I enable it?
[12:12] <enyc> BioGeek: its usually worth having a KNOPPIX disk at all times... and keeping the previous-versions you accumilate
[12:12] <interfear> hrm..
[12:13] <Warbo> DSL is useful to have
[12:13] <AngryElf> notamisfit, +rwx same for /dev/hdc
[12:13] <enyc> Warbo: inteed ... much smaller
[12:13] <yipe> it's doin' somethin'.... it's thinking really hard.... I think we got it:D
[12:13] <sproingie> damn, xgl is pretty.  had to switch back to regular X tho, was getting motion sickness
[12:13] <ardchoille> sproingie: ROFL!
[12:13] <Warbo> enyc: The one I have uses 2.4 (not sure about latest ones) so no dodgy cdrecord issues
[12:14] <notamisfit> AngryElf: the drive isn't mounted, is it?
[12:14] <yipe> YES! That did it, thanks Warbo!
[12:14] <Warbo> yipe: Yay
[12:14] <yipe> :D
[12:14] <BioGeek> enyc: OK, I'm learning all the time here ;-)
[12:14] <AngryElf> notamisfit, nothing for hdc in mtab
[12:14] <Warbo> Can ANYONE tell me how to make Nautilus's default zoom level 150%?
[12:15] <enyc> Warbo: heh... iirc the ubuntu-breezy/dapper cdrecord doesnt haze funny issues.....
[12:15] <kakado> sproingie, haha, for how long were you watching the screen before you got sick ?
[12:15] <Warbo> enyc: Well I boot from a CD, so if I leave it somewhere I have to boot from a LiveCD to write a new one
[12:15] <NKayhan> is there a way to reinstall xubuntu (which I am currently using) without killing all of my files?
[12:15] <interfear> anyone here using 32bit on a 64?
[12:15] <sproingie> interfear: yep, me
[12:15] <jiSh> make a seperate partition and move your /home
[12:16] <jiSh> to it
[12:16] <jiSh> just make sure you don't pick install using entire disk when you go to the reinstall, and pick your partitions manually
[12:16] <interfear> sproingie: i think im gonna do the same, do you find more items work?
[12:16] <notamisfit> i've got an amd64, but i don't fuck with 64 bit installs, totally useless for < 4gb ram
[12:16] <compotatoj> I have 1GB of ram and an Athlon 64, but my computer is very laggy when I am accessing the hard drive a lot, is there any way to have Ubuntu use less swap and more ram?
[12:17] <notamisfit> and half the software doesn't work
[12:17] <eno> I have one question.  Would somebody please let me know how to get a program to run at startup in gnome?  (I am trying to get qonsole to run at startup, because I am really used to having slickrun at work)
[12:17] <ardchoille> I found it. For anyone who is interested, crontabs are kept in /var/spool/cron/crontabs/$USER
[12:17] <godtvisken> Do I need to rename my <IP_ADDRESS> kernel directory? I am reading an install guide and it says the 2.6.16 kernel needs to be renamed to linux-2.6.16ck12
[12:17] <Warbo> notamisfit: If you use half FLOSS and half propriatary then yes
[12:17] <jiSh> eno: System ->Prefernces -> Session
[12:17] <polpak> eno, System->Preferences->Session
[12:17] <sproingie> !language
[12:17] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:17] <notamisfit> eno: try your session
[12:17] <jiSh> there's a startup tab
[12:17] <eno> thanks folks!
[12:18] <bbrazil> compotatoj: there's a swappiness value in /proc somewhere
[12:18] <Warbo> godtvisken: Should just call it something sensible like "2.6.16-custom" or something
[12:18] <jiSh> ahhh lagging from this bloody XP install inside vmware
[12:18] <godtvisken> Warbo: ok
[12:18] <notamisfit> godtvisken: just make sure you symlink it to /usr/src/linux before compiling any outside modules
[12:18] <bbrazil> compotatoj: with that much ram, you might even consider disabling swap
[12:18] <eno> that was easy.  thanks again!
[12:18] <Warbo> How would KDE run in VMWare on an AMD 2000+?
[12:18] <enyc> compotatoj: is DMA access enabled on PATA hard-disk ?
[12:19] <compotatoj> bbrazil, have you tried that and had it work
[12:19] <bbrazil> compotatoj: which?
[12:19] <NKayhan> Any reason why sudo apt-get install synaptic isn't working?
[12:19] <compotatoj> enyc, i have SATA
[12:19] <enyc> compotatoj: kk no matter
[12:19] <compotatoj> bbrazil, disabling swap
[12:19] <sproingie> Warbo: probably just fine.  i wouldnt try watching videos in it
[12:19] <jiSh> why do you have to apt-get it?
[12:19] <ryanakca> whats the difference between <IP_ADDRESS>/8, <IP_ADDRESS>/16, etc,etc
[12:19] <Warbo> NKayhan: Check your sources.list (and try to ping the URLs)
[12:19] <Lobster> n8
[12:19] <steveire> I'm confused. I sudo aptitude remove an old linux kernel, and apttude tells me that package is broken and offers a solution. What's going on there?
[12:19] <bbrazil> compotatoj: did it once I think. Worth a try, but your problem is probably deeper
[12:19] <Warbo> sproingie: OK, just that KQemu goes horribly slow
[12:19] <NKayhan> Warbo: where's the sources.list?
[12:20] <jiSh> /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:20] <Warbo> sproingie: And I don't want to bother installing VMWare if it is no better
[12:20] <Warbo> !easysource
[12:20] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:20] <sproingie> Warbo: qemu is horribly slow, it's a cpu emulator.  vmware is a hypervisor, it's much faster
[12:20] <rick-uk> Hello
[12:20] <enyc> compotatoj: what does 'sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda' (hard disk read-timings) say?
[12:20] <ryanakca> steveire: why remove old kernels? they can stay... who knows... you might need to go back on day...
[12:20] <rick-uk> Wonder if someone can help me?
[12:20] <compotatoj> bbrazil, do you know what happens if you use more than 1GB if swap is disabled
[12:20] <steveire> sorry, actually I remove the -image- it tells me the modules package is broken. Is that normal??
[12:20] <Warbo> sproingie: KQemu is the accellerator for it
[12:20] <jiSh> rick-uk: what's the problem?
[12:20] <steveire> This one is two kernels old
[12:21] <ryanakca> steveire: I believe so...
[12:21] <bbrazil> compotatoj: if you run out of memory, the OOM killer comes into play
[12:21] <sproingie> Warbo: yes, it makes qemu go from tectonically slow to merely glacial
[12:21] <Warbo> steveire: If you remove a linux-image package then get rid of the corresponding linux-restricted-modules and linux-headers as well
[12:21] <cbx33> hi all
[12:21] <NKayhan> IT"S BLANK!
[12:21] <Hoxzer> and I can see you in the daark
[12:21] <ballmerbrekdanz> has anyone tried ubuntu on a 233mhz ppc?
[12:21] <Warbo> sproingie: :)
[12:21] <rick-uk> I'm new to ubuntu.  I am trying to install real player and both the regular and synaptic app adders come back with error
[12:21] <ballmerbrekdanz> wonder whether it can be ok
[12:21] <cbx33> what's the command to install the source and headers for my curernt kernel?
[12:21] <compotatoj> enyc, cache - 1500MB/S, buffer - 25MB/s
[12:21] <ryanakca> steveire: keep them... I have kernels dating back to vmlinuz-2.6.15-15-386... now I'm running vmlinuz-2.6.15-26-686
[12:21] <sproingie> ballmerbrekdanz: i wouldnt recommend it
[12:21] <ballmerbrekdanz> I've tried Xubuntu on a mmx 233mhx I think and it was kinda crap...
[12:21] <jiSh> rick-uk: what's the error?
[12:22] <NKayhan> rick-uk: why realplayer?
[12:22] <jiSh> also, realplayer is quite terrible
[12:22] <ryanakca> steveire: not that 2.6.15 is old or anything
[12:22] <enyc> compotatoj: that soends normal for a modern disk/system....
[12:22] <Warbo> cbx33: There is no source for your current kernel, only generic kernels (like 2.5.15). The headers are "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`"
[12:22] <bbrazil> compotatoj: 25MB/s is a bit slow for SATA
[12:22] <ballmerbrekdanz> sproingie: what distro would do the job? Puppylinux is awsome but only for x86
[12:22] <ryanakca> steveire: not that 2.6.15-15 is old or anything
[12:22] <enyc> compotatoj: have you worked oet what is eating RAM? ;-)
[12:22] <polpak> ballmerbrekdanz, 233 should work fine, though you should probably tone down the graphical components
[12:22] <cbx33> Warbo, oh? why not
[12:22] <bbrazil> compotatoj: but should be quite enough for general usage
[12:22] <rick-uk> so I can access the UK BBC audio - has to rP (or WMP - yeuch)
[12:22] <sproingie> ballmerbrekdanz: er, what kind of cpu is it?
[12:22] <compotatoj> enyc, VMWare usually :)
[12:22] <cbx33> where can I get it from
[12:22] <cbx33> or do I have to patch vanilla
[12:22] <ryanakca> whats the difference between <IP_ADDRESS>/8, <IP_ADDRESS>/16, etc,etc?
[12:22] <polpak> ballmerbrekdanz, perhaps use xubuntu rather than ubuntu, etc
[12:22] <steveire> Warbo: Are you saying I should apititude remove some linux-headers-<number> package after I do this?
[12:22] <bbrazil> compotatoj: then keep bmware inside your ram
[12:22] <NKayhan> nick-uk: VLC/Mplayer
[12:22] <compotatoj> bbrazil, could VMWare be slowing it down
[12:22] <ballmerbrekdanz> sproingie: currently this Mac 233mhz has Panther installed which is way TOO much...
[12:23] <rick-uk> I've installer VLC
[12:23] <rick-uk> that went in OK
[12:23] <bbrazil> compotatoj: use at most around 512MB for vmware
[12:23] <ballmerbrekdanz> sproingie: it's a ppc 233MHZ
[12:23] <enyc> compotatoj: VMWare very-well could be eating loads of ram ;-)
[12:23] <Warbo> rick-uk: Once it is installed I STRONGLY advise the use of totem or something, using the RM codecs. RealPlayer lags a lot, even on a low quality stream on a broadband connection
[12:23] <ryanakca> steveire: do you NEED to remove them?
[12:23] <compotatoj> bbrazil, that is what i'm doing
[12:23] <NKayhan> So why is my sorces.list empty?
[12:23] <sproingie> ballmerbrekdanz: dunno much about ppc.  at that age of cpu you might try something like uclinux
[12:24] <Warbo> sources.list maybe?
[12:24] <steveire> ryanakca: I don't think so, but I don't see any need to keep all the kernels I have
[12:24] <sproingie> Warbo:  hey, realplayer is just ..BUFFERING... fine for ...BUFFERING... me.  what's ...BUFFERING... your problem ...BUFFERING... with it?
[12:24] <ryanakca> steveire: I keep them all... who knows... you might have some obscure driver and it might break at the next kernel upgrade... you can go back to the old one till it works again :)
[12:24] <Warbo> 233MHz is fine for PCs with Linux, and PPCs are supposedly faster for the same clock speed
[12:25] <NKayhan> can someone pastebin their sources.list?
[12:25] <bbrazil> Warbo: PPC is RISC, hence slower for the same clock
[12:25] <godtvisken> If I have an AMD Sempron, what processor family is that in the kernel config?
[12:25] <bbrazil> !easysource
[12:25] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:25] <bbrazil> NKayhan: ^
[12:25] <Warbo> sproingie: That's not the problem, the problem is that when watching videos the stream is downloaded fine but RealPlayer looks like a webcam slideshow rather than a video player
[12:25] <sproingie> bbrazil: it's not that cut and dried.  it's also one-clock per op, which is not the case for intel
[12:25] <rick-uk> yes but the \BBC radioplayer won'tlaunch - says I do not have the RP plugin or RP player installed - is there a way to fool it into using VLC?
[12:25] <NKayhan> ubotu: Oh cool
[12:25] <ubotu> I know nothing about Oh cool - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[12:26] <steveire> Nah, I'm not that bothered. I don't use my computer as a power tool. If I have or have had some obscure driver and I don't know about it now, I don't need it.
[12:26] <Warbo> bbrazil: But most processors newer than x86 (ie. most processors) can do much more with fewer clock cycles
[12:26] <ryanakca> rick-uk: you using firefox? I have bbc radioplayer running...
[12:26] <rick-uk> yes I am
[12:26] <bbrazil> Warbo: but modern x86 processors are suparscalar
[12:26] <rick-uk> bbc.co.uk
[12:26] <rick-uk> radio
[12:26] <rick-uk> listen to R4 or whatever..
[12:27] <ryanakca> rick-uk: yeah... I know what your talking about... BBC Radio Oxford :P
[12:27] <sproingie> uclinux is probably overkill since that's for systems without MMU's
[12:27] <Warbo> rick-uk: I end up looking in the source to find the stream URL. These days I just use BBCWorld though, since it has direct links to the ram files
[12:27] <aleksander> how can I install something ? is there any searcher of apps ?
[12:27] <sproingie> but it'd probably run pretty smooth on a 233 mhz ppc
[12:27] <bbrazil> aleksander: apt-cache search term
[12:27] <Warbo> !synaptic > aleksander
[12:27] <ryanakca> rick-uk: I'm trying to think what I had done...
[12:27] <rick-uk> great
[12:27] <aleksander> how to run this :P I`m new on linux
[12:28] <Warbo> aleksander: Read the guide
[12:28] <rick-uk> I guess vlc will open ram files - it seems to open most things!
[12:28] <aleksander> ... I'm blind
[12:28] <sproingie> apt-cache search might be better for CLI
[12:29] <ryanakca> rick-uk: what's in "about:plugins"?
[12:29] <polpak> aleksander,  https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[12:29] <aleksander> OK, I got it . :)
[12:29] <steveire> can I use aptitude to purge config files from packages that I removed previously?
[12:29] <aleksander> bye !
[12:29] <sproingie> steveire: yep.  select the package and hit underscore
[12:30] <rick-uk> ff says additional plugins are required.  There is an option to install plugins, but when I tried that it just took me to the real site - I d/l d the Linux version but I have NO idea what to do with it!!
[12:30] <rick-uk> So much easier on OSX...
[12:31] <ryanakca> rick-uk: sudo apt-get install mplayerplug-in
[12:31] <ryanakca> rick-uk: should do it :)
[12:31] <revilot> is there anything like ndiswrapper for hardware other than wireless cards?
[12:31] <steveire> sproingie: what package? I mean I did aptitude remove on many packages (don't have a list of names), and now I wish I'd used purge
[12:31] <rick-uk> is that in the terminal?
[12:31] <sproingie> revilot: yes, captive-ntfs works in a similar fashion
[12:31] <godtvisk1n> What command is used to config my kernel with ncurses? I don't like make xconfig
[12:32] <notamisfit> godtvisken: make menuconfig
[12:32] <sproingie> revilot: as for hardware, no idea.  it'd be nice if i could get a printer driver working like that
[12:32] <ryanakca> rick-uk: once installed, open up FF, type "about:plugins" into the address bar and tell me if theres anything about RealPlayer in there
[12:32] <ryanakca> rick-uk: yes, command line
[12:32] <notamisfit> godtvisk1n: make menuconfig
[12:32] <rick-uk> hang on
[12:32] <revilot> sproingie: thats just for writing to ntfs partitions right?
[12:32] <sproingie> revilot: reading and writing, yeah.  i've heard it's pretty slow
[12:33] <steveire> would sudo aptitude purge do it?
[12:33] <revilot> sproingie: i was looking for something that would allow a piece of hardware to work that there is no native linux driver for
[12:33] <sproingie> steveire: aptitude remove --purge i think
[12:34] <revilot> anyone have nay tips on getting a creative prodikeys to work in linux
[12:34] <steveire> hmmm, doesn't give any command line output
[12:34] <sproingie> revilot: i imagine there's some experimental stuff, nothing as widely used as ndiswrappers tho
[12:35] <yipe> so close
[12:35] <ryanakca> whats the difference between <IP_ADDRESS>/8, <IP_ADDRESS>/16, etc,etc
[12:35] <compotatoj> Does anyone know how to manage swap or disable it? (GUI would be nice but not neccesary)
[12:35] <sproingie> heh, i love "aptitude moo".  "There are no Easter Eggs in this program."
[12:36] <yipe> ryanakca, you can't divide zero
[12:36] <sproingie> yeah, other than minesweeper
[12:36] <NKayhan> OK I did the sourceomatic, and saved the new sources.list, but still no synaptic
[12:36] <ryanakca> yipe: I know...networking :P
[12:36] <rick-uk> OK, its installing mplaYER PLUGIN NOW
[12:36] <godtvisk1n> What do I do if I get errors when running 'make menuconifg'?
[12:36] <yipe> I'm just teasing you because that's way over my head;)
[12:36] <ryanakca> compotatoj: like just looking at it's usage?
[12:37] <notamisfit> godtvisk1n: try installing ncurses-dev (or something like that)
[12:37] <ryanakca> compotatoj: top    in the command line should do it
[12:37] <compotatoj> ryanakca, not really, i want to make it not used unless it is neccesary
[12:37] <shedi> godtvisk1n,  libncurses5-dev
[12:38] <ryanakca> compotatoj: ah... sorry... no clue
[12:38] <godtvisk1n> thanks
[12:38] <yipe> okay, I'm almost done with my kernel
[12:38] <notamisfit> compotatoj : /sbin/swapoff (read the manpage before you go shooting yourself in the foot)
[12:38] <compotatoj> notamisfit, thanks
[12:38] <yipe> I try this "sudo ln -s /boot/System.map-<IP_ADDRESS>.Emperor /boot/System.map" and I get this error "ln: creating symbolic link `/boot/System.map' to `/boot/System.map-<IP_ADDRESS>.Emperor': File exists"
[12:38] <shedi> first shoot yourself in the foot, then read the manpage :)
[12:38] <yipe> isn't the file SUPPOSED to exist?
[12:39] <shedi> best approach
[12:39] <notamisfit> shedi: enough times to learn yourself at least
[12:39] <sproingie> why doesn't alt-f2 work anymore?
[12:39] <sproingie> i even reset it in the keyboard shortcuts, and it still won't work
[12:40] <yipe> anyone know what's up with that error?
[12:40] <polpak> sproingie, what was it supposed to do?
[12:40] <sproingie> polpak: pop open the 'run' dialog
[12:40] <trident523> My install keeps freezing everytime it starts. Rather, it goes really slow.
[12:40] <polpak> yipe, you have the arguments backwards
[12:40] <sproingie> polpak: in fact, whatever i map it to now doesn't work
[12:40] <yipe> oh?
[12:41] <james91823> I have a running version of xubuntu but i need to configure my wireless adapter it is a Linksys PCMIA G card its basic. It comes up under the System > networking as active.... ive configured my WEP and my IP address subnet mask and gateway. But now when i go to the web nothing loads. How do i check the status of my WIfI connection... Besides Ifconfig
[12:41] <polpak> yipe, is System.map supoosed to be the link, or the file the link points to
[12:41] <yipe> I don't know, whichever makes my kernel work:P
[12:41] <ryanakca> rick-uk: installed?
[12:41] <polpak> james91823, iwconfig ?
[12:41] <james91823> iwconfig? ill try it one sec
[12:42] <rick-uk> THANK YOU VERY VERY MUCH - ITSWORKING!!!!!
[12:42] <james91823> ok i did iwconfig what am i looking for?
[12:42] <compotatoj> notamisfit, should i do swapon -p 1 /dev/sda5 or swapoff -p 1 /dev/sda5
[12:42] <godtvisk1n> What Processor Family is an AMD Sempron considered in the kernel config?
[12:43] <yipe> wow.... my foot is WHITE, the light just hit it from the window and there's a reflection on the ceiling.... there's glare coming off my foot
[12:43] <trident523> Any clue why my installer is really slow? (like, it has taken 10 min to get the list of languages).
[12:43] <podzap> hi all
[12:43] <enyc> trident523: bad cd / cd-drive....
[12:43] <cc_> could somebody please assist me with the ppp connection problems that im having. i am trying to connect via a usb adsl modem, here is a paste of my ppp.log - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18047
[12:43] <enyc> trident523: bizarre incompatibility with system...
[12:43] <podzap> can somebody tell me where to get an ubuntu version of debootstrap as an RPM?
[12:43] <podzap> I need it so I can install ubuntu!!!
[12:44] <enyc> trident523: I was having woeird slow behaviour deteching hardware and stuff on osee machine untiel I upgraded the BIOS
[12:44] <yipe> polpak's idea didn't work I get the same error trying it the other way
[12:44] <samuli> ubuntu version in rpm = bad, bad oxymoron
[12:44] <james91823> OK it says it can see my network and the link quality is fine then why am i not getting TCP traffic?
[12:44] <podzap> if you can use alien to create an rpm for me, I would be much obliged.
[12:44] <ryanakca> rick-uk: np... here to help :)
[12:44] <podzap> samuli: ubuntu version, as in not the debian version.
[12:45] <rick-uk> Now all I need to do is get the volume control to work!!
[12:45] <samuli> podzap. yeah.. but rpm?
[12:45] <notamisfit> trident523 : ubuntu's first time up using something other than debian-installer?
[12:45] <notamisfit> my guess anyways
[12:45] <rick-uk> the one on the menu bar does nothing
[12:45] <podzap> samuli: need it to install ubuntu as a xen machine on my suse box
[12:45] <trident523> Well, I'll go re-download it. I guess. This is the 2nd time bittorrent has given me a bad download.
[12:45] <ThunderStruck> podzap: ubuntu doesnt use rpms
[12:45] <trident523> Oh... I'm using 6.06, the i386 cd...
[12:45] <james91823> anyone?
[12:45] <podzap> ThunderStruck: no shit
[12:46] <trident523> And, the only thing that I cant do is select english and hit next, as no languages have popped up.
[12:46] <yipe> could someone explain this system.map thing to me?
[12:47] <cc_> could somebody please assist me with the ppp connection problems that im having. i am trying to connect via a usb adsl modem, here is a paste of my ppp.log - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18047
[12:47] <sysdoc> Anyone have any problem with the update for xserver-xorg-core (1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10) to 1:1.0.2-0ubuntu10.1? I have been crashing X on the screensaver ever since the update yesterday.
[12:47] <sproingie> yunno, i may have actually removed the package with the gnome run dialog.  anyone know what it's called, and what package it's in?
[12:48] <soundray> yipe: I don't know the answer, but if I wanted to, I'd search the web.
[12:48] <yipe> I am.....
[12:49] <soundray> yipe: how about http://dirac.org/linux/system.map/ then?
[12:49] <trident523> Well, I think it's a bad CD. Guess I'll wait for my shipit. Although, I was looking forward to getting it installed within 6 weeks.
[12:49] <Flannel> trident523: did you burn slowly?
[12:49] <trident523> Didnt specify it.
[12:49] <trident523> I think my standard is 24x.
[12:49] <Flannel> trident523: try burning at a lower speed.
[12:49] <Flannel> 4x is good
[12:50] <trident523> Ok... Will do.
[12:50] <soundray> trident523: do check the md5sum before you burn again?
[12:50] <trident523> M'kay. Know of a good windows checker?
[12:51] <soundray> s/\?/\!/
[12:51] <soundray> trident523: I know they exist...
[12:52] <trident523> Oh, I found one.
[12:52] <trident523> *url for anyone paying attention* http://www.fastsum.com/
[12:52] <Flannel> trident523: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html  thats linked from the ubuntu wiki
[12:52] <james91823> what is the command to figure out your networking preferences for a wireless adapter iwconfig?
[12:52] <yipe> okay, I've got these two files, one is called system.map, the other is system.map~<IP_ADDRESS>.Emperor, and I'm supposed to make one point to the other, but I get an error that says "file exists"
[12:53] <baconbacon> !mp3
[12:53] <Laney> np:
[12:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:53] <Flannel> yipe: that's because one already exists.
[12:53] <yipe> of course they both exist, they're supposed ot exist
[12:53] <soundray> yipe: use the -f flag
[12:53] <yipe> okay, then what's the solution?
[12:53] <yipe> okay...
[12:53] <Flannel> yipe: Except, not before the linking.
[12:53] <dli> yipe, rm System.map ; ln -s system.map~<IP_ADDRESS>.Emperor System.map
[12:54] <compotatoj> How do I see what is being used in the swap?
[12:54] <yipe> how good of an idea is deleting my system.map? Sounds like trouble to me
[12:54] <godtviskin> Where is the USB mass storage option in the kernel configuration?
[12:54] <dli> yipe, you don't even need the system.map most likely, so, doesn't matter indeed
[12:54] <soundray> compotatoj: cat /proc/meminfo
[12:55] <yipe> okay, did it..... let's hope that solved it, here I go
[12:55] <dli> godtviskin, you need sd_mod and sg in scsi , and [euo] hci_hcd, usb-storage under USB
[12:55] <compotatoj> Has anyone on an AMD64 gotten compiz to work and their numpad to work? Haha.
[12:56] <Meatwad> ubuntu has suddenly lost the ability to connect to my wireless network :(
[12:56] <james91823> yeah tell me about it
[12:56] <Nathan_> Can anyone point me in the direction to configure DNS?
[12:56] <james91823> ME TOO PLEASE
[12:56] <godtviskin> You all should use some WRT54G router and put OpenWRT on it
[12:56] <soundray> godtviskin: the option is called CONFIG_USB_STORAGE . Edit /usr/src/linux/.config if you missed it in make menuconfig
[12:56] <godtviskin> Then avoid having to set up a wireless card in linux
[12:56] <soundray> godtviskin: I have
[12:57] <godtviskin> soundray: thanks, and cool. so have i, it saves so much trouble
[12:57] <cc_> could somebody please assist me with the ppp connection problems that im having. i am trying to connect via a usb adsl modem, here is a paste of my ppp.log - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18047
[12:57] <soundray> godtviskin: OpenWrt is good stuff
[12:57] <Warbo> cc_: What kind of modem?
[12:57] <rellim> hello all
[12:57] <godtviskin> soundray: the config file says not to edit it :P
[12:58] <cc_> warbo: connexant usb adsl modem
[12:58] <soundray> godtviskin: don't worry about that warning, as long as you're sensible...
[12:58] <godtviskin> ok
[12:58] <Warbo> OK, I have never used one of them
[12:58] <cc_> war: i can get the link light stable and everything going, i just cannot seem to authenticate.
[12:58] <james91823> but do you have to use openwrt?
[12:59] <Meatwad> you don't have to use openwrt
[12:59] <Meatwad> i connect to a cheapo linksys router fine...until now
[12:59] <james91823> does anyone have  alink to a support page for wireless in ubunut?
[12:59] <cc_> warbo: so it isnt a modem issue, the modem is up, its a ppp communication problem
[12:59] <james91823> ubuntu*
[12:59] <soundray> !wifi
[12:59] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[12:59] <james91823> thank you lol
[01:00] <Warbo> cc_: The modems I use handle that anyway. If the modem works then the connection will work
[01:00] <trident523> *in my somewhat offtipic continuation* I'm buring the CD at 4x right now. And, will be back with more linux newbie questions.
[01:00] <cc_> Warbo:  how do i specify that it must use PPPoE LLC ?
[01:00] <tom__> ciao
[01:00] <trident523> offtopic*
[01:00] <cc_> Warbo: because i beleive that is the problem
[01:00] <godtviskin> soundray: it says i need SCSI disk support too, hm
[01:00] <Warbo> cc_: Is there a guide to your modem on the Wiki (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsbAdslModem)?
[01:00] <soundray> trident523: you're in the right place, mostly...
[01:01] <soundray> godtviskin: yes, like someone else said earlier.
[01:01] <Warbo> cc_: No idea, as I said my eagle-usb one sorts that out itself (it's getting the damn thing installed in the first place which is tricky)
[01:01] <godtviskin> ok
[01:01] <cc_> warbo: and that i got perfect, ubuntu picks it all up no problem
[01:01] <cc_> warbo: okay after installing the driver in the firmware folder of course
[01:02] <cc_> Warbo: but fact is, its there, its waiting to be connected using a working isp configuration. i just need to get a proper setup using PPPoE LLC
[01:02] <Nathan_> Once again, can anyone point me in the direction to configure DNS?
[01:02] <andy-> Do I just need libgtk-1.2.so.0 if I get this message?: /home/andy/.setup25495: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:03] <cc_> Warbo: i used this guide to get my modem working so that it picks up the adsl link etc. http://rajeshjayaprakash.in/conexant.html <- thats all good.
[01:03] <MikeyMike-5speed> does anyone know if ubuntu's partition creation process will resize windows partitions without damage?
[01:03] <soundray> Nathan_: be a more descriptive. What's the problem you're trying to solve?
[01:03] <godtviskin> I keep getting the error that " This feature depends on another which has been configured as a module." How do I know which other feature I need to enable?
[01:03] <Warbo> cc_: If you get it all working then could you write a brief guide on the Ubuntu Wiki please?
[01:03] <sysdoc> MikeyMike-5speed, yup
[01:03] <soundray> MikeyMike-5speed: yes, it will. Do backup important files nevertheless.
[01:04] <Flannel> MikeyMike-5speed: you should defrag first, and it still depends
[01:04] <MikeyMike-5speed> ntfs?
[01:04] <soundray> MikeyMike-5speed: yes, even ntfs
[01:04] <MikeyMike-5speed> thank you muchly
[01:04] <cc_> warbo: i would certainly do so but its just the connection part that i cannot get up. that guide i pasted shows how to make ubuntu pick the modem up without any problems when plugging it in etc.
[01:04] <cc_> Warbo: i just need assistance making the dial script to work 100%
[01:04] <godtviskin> I am trying to configure my kernel and I get the error that "This feature depends on another which has been configured as a module." How do I know which other feature I need to enable?
[01:05] <cc_> Warbo: ive been struggling for the past 5 hours or so.
[01:05] <Warbo> cc_: As I say I don't know that stuff. I use a router on my own box and I type "sudo startadsl" on my Dad's
[01:05] <soundray> godtviskin: does it not say in the help text?
[01:05] <godtviskin> soundray: no
[01:05] <cc_> Warbo: lucky :(
[01:05] <AndyCooll_> MikeyMike-5speed: This is a good website related to partitioning http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/
[01:05] <MikeyMike-5speed> whats the easiest way to install ubuntu on an hp pavillion laptop without messing up windows (using grub to dual boot)?
[01:05] <MikeyMike-5speed> AndyCooll_,  thank you
[01:06] <h6w> Hello, I'm getting an initscripts error when I upgrade to dapper.   I've tried apt-get install -f but it complains about a mount problem.  Please help!
[01:06] <soundray> MikeyMike-5speed: follow ubuntu's advice
[01:06] <soundray> !dualboot
[01:06] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions for x86/amd64 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo - for mac https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot
[01:06] <technel> If I just run an "alias" command, will the alias be available on every session, including if I restart, or do I need to add it to a bash config file or something?
[01:06] <MikeyMike-5speed> soundray,  will i have to manually do the partitions?
[01:06] <Heretician> Does the speed that I burn Ubuntu matter?
[01:07] <soundray> MikeyMike-5speed: there are options... Are you worried about partitioning?
[01:07] <MikeyMike-5speed> soundray,  im not im capable of doing it im helpin someone over the phone lol
[01:07] <Madpilot> Heretician, slower burning is better, it seems
[01:07] <soundray> Heretician: some burners churn out better CDs when you set a low speed
[01:07] <Warbo> There probably needs to be some distinction between PPC and Intel Macs these days. My Ubuntu CDs just say "For Your Mac", but loads of people have Intel Macs now
[01:08] <Nathan_> I am trying to configure Virtual hosts for Apache.  I have setup DNS manualy in slackware.  The files are in /etc/named.conf and /var/named/zone etc.  What software do I need to install to get those files.  Do I have to use a GUI or can I do it by hand?
[01:09] <soundray> MikeyMike-5speed: ubuntu auto-sets up root and swap partitions if you let it. Better to have a separate /home, but not strictly necessary.
[01:09] <soundray> technel: aliases should be set in $HOME/.bashrc
[01:09] <godtviskin> I am trying to configure my kernel and I get the error that "This feature depends on another which has been configured as a module." How do I know which other feature I need to enable? It doesn't tell me.
[01:09] <MikeyMike-5speed> also /var for fragmentation i know
[01:09] <Heretician> So it would be better to just burn with like.. 2x or 4x?
[01:09] <MikeyMike-5speed> soundray,  what im worried about is the auto method will it overwrite windows?
[01:09] <technel> soundray, Alright, thanks
[01:09] <samuli> tere
[01:09] <MikeyMike-5speed> or will it respect the windows installation
[01:09] <Viper550> Hello again
[01:09] <jiSh> auto will erase entire HD
[01:09] <gtrplr> anyone setup xorg on an ubuntu server?
[01:09] <Warbo> godtviskin: Enable anything that you want as a module. The only things to compile in are enough to get an initrd working
[01:10] <soundray> MikeyMike-5speed: the design is to respect Windows and other installations. It can be a bit hairy, if you've got unusual partitioning etc., but the installer deals well with the common setups.
[01:10] <MikeyMike-5speed> soundray,  its a single partition windows installation on a hp pavillion
[01:10] <sysdoc> MikeyMike-5speed, read this http://www.pcmech.com/show/os/903/
[01:11] <MikeyMike-5speed> thank you sysdoc
[01:11] <baconbacon> Just dont "use the entire disc"
[01:11] <MikeyMike-5speed> right
[01:11] <MikeyMike-5speed> but the alternative to that is 'manual'
[01:12] <soundray> Heretician: it can be, with some drives and blank CDs, or combinations thereof. Usually, you're best off with the high burning speed, though, unless you've already found problems.
[01:12] <forrest> Whats "dist-upgrade" do that is different from "upgrade" in aptitude? I have looked everywhere, but I only found it is "intelligent".
[01:12] <montag_> Anyone know why mplayer would play video files stretched? I have a 1680x1050 laptop screen (16:10 aspect ratio).
[01:12] <soundray> MikeyMike-5speed: I wouldn't expect any problems, but obviously won't give you a promise or guarantee.
[01:12] <MikeyMike-5speed> soundray,  of course
[01:12] <Heretician> stops at 66% on one cd, wont even boot up another.. althoug the CDs are pretty scratchy-- i'm going out and buying more though
[01:12] <MikeyMike-5speed> thanks i will be right back
[01:12] <Nathan_> soundray: I am trying to configure Virtual hosts for Apache.  I have setup DNS manualy in slackware.  The files are in /etc/named.conf and /var/named/zone etc.  What software do I need to install to get those files.  Do I have to use a GUI or can I do it by hand?
[01:13] <Warbo> forrest: If new dependencies are needed then dist-upgrade will get them. Regular upgrade will leave the dependant package at it's current version
[01:14] <soundray> forrest: during years of using Debian and Ubuntu, I've never had a good reason to prefer upgrade over dist-upgrade
[01:15] <soundray> Heretician: your situation warrants an attempt with lower burning speed.
[01:15] <Warbo> I want to set icon zooming to 150% by default. How do I do that?
[01:16] <g-henna> hi everyone
[01:16] <trident523> Hello.
[01:16] <g-henna> is it correct that there is no file /etc/ld.so.conf in ubuntu?
[01:16] <Eclipse_GSX> hi
[01:16] <soundray> Nathan_: have you installed the bind package?
[01:16] <Heretician> it was at 48, what would you suggest I change this to, soundray?
[01:16] <Warbo> g-henna: I can't find it. Pretty annoying since I don't know the alternative
[01:17] <soundray> Heretician: the lowest that the package of your blank suggests.
[01:17] <Heretician> they suggest a lowest and highest? :P
[01:17] <Warbo> Heretician: 4x is usually the most supported
[01:17] <Heretician> okies
[01:17] <Heretician> although... 2x would be even better? :P
[01:17] <g-henna> i have the problem that ld links to the so-files in /usr/local/lib fine, but when running the application, these paths are not known to the program and it crashes saying that the lib was not found
[01:18] <Warbo> Heretician: Many writable discs don't support 2x (I have a set which says 4x-12x)
[01:18] <g-henna> Warbo: you think just adding that file may help?
[01:18] <Warbo> g-henna: I don't think so. I obviously isn't there for a reason, but I don't know what that reason is
[01:18] <soundray> g-henna: I've got that file, but I don't know whether that means anything
[01:18] <soundray> Heretician: I mostly use RWs that suggest 4-12
[01:19] <rubso> Warbo: Standby Option doesn't work..
[01:19] <Heretician> trident523, my install questions will come when i get more problems of course :P
[01:19] <forrest> soundray: sorry, my client has a 20 line buffer, and i didn't have enough time. Can you say that again?
[01:19] <Warbo> rubso: Sorry, DPMS was the only thing I could think of
[01:19] <Heretician> i currently also have a problem to deal with xserver.. I'm going to try that fix on the site :)
[01:19] <Heretician> er forums
[01:19] <soundray> forrest: during years of using Debian and Ubuntu, I've never had a good reason to prefer upgrade over dist-upgrade
[01:19] <rubso> :( ok thanx
[01:19] <g-henna> man ldconfig shows that this file seems to be actually used
[01:20] <Nathan_> soundray:  Oops.  Thanks.  It is those little things that get ya..   I will see if things look familiar.  Thanks.
[01:20] <forrest> soundray: the line before that
[01:21] <soundray> forrest, sorry I don't think I said anything else to you
[01:21] <Warbo> forrest: Dist-upgrade gets dependencies which you don't already have. If a package needs new dependencies then upgrade will leave the package at it's current version
[01:21] <forrest> soundray: about the difference, not your preference
[01:21] <forrest> thanks
[01:21] <g-henna> ok, solved. just created the file and ran sudo ldconfig
[01:21] <g-henna> bye then
[01:22] <h6w> "
[01:22] <h6w> Setting up initscripts (2.86.ds1-6ubuntu32) ...
[01:22] <h6w> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on varrun,
[01:22] <h6w>        missing codepage or other error
[01:22] <h6w>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[01:22] <h6w>        dmesg | tail  or so
[01:22] <h6w> dpkg: error processing initscripts (--configure):
[01:22] <h6w>  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 32
[01:22] <h6w> "
[01:22] <h6w> Any ideas?
[01:22] <ompaul> !flood
[01:22] <soundray> h6w: yes
[01:22] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:22] <soundray> h6w: don't flood
[01:23] <h6w> Sorry, that wasn't supposed to be multiple lines.
[01:23] <ompaul> h6w, please read ubotu's last message
[01:23] <soundray> h6w: if you want any sympathetic response, that is.
[01:23] <trident523> !help
[01:23] <montag_> Nevermind. mplayer owned.
[01:23] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[01:23] <alecks> hey does anybody know where I can find the awards that ubuntu has won?
[01:24] <jrib> !awards
[01:24] <ubotu> I know nothing about awards - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:24] <montag_> !mplayer
[01:24] <ubotu> No fonts in mplayer? Try " sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts " ( multiverse must be enabled see !repos ).
[01:24] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[01:25] <trident523> Ok, I got past most of the liveCD bootup. Here comes the moment of truth for my *fairly recent* L25-S1##.
[01:25] <h6w> I can't see ubotu's last message. What does it say?
[01:25] <soundray> h6w: it says, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org if you've got errors to paste.
[01:26] <a1ecks> sudo apt-get install mplayer-fonts
[01:27] <h6w> ok, more info: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18049
[01:27] <trident523> Hmm, I'mm still getting a slow responce on the graphical install.
[01:28] <h6w> Was upgrading from breezy to dapper, suddenly crashed with error status 32 on initscripts.  Haven't been able to get past this.
[01:29] <soundray> h6w: are you mounting something to /varrun in /etc/fstab?
[01:29] <jrib> a1ecks: I thought there used to be an award page but I can't find it.  You can grep the http://www.ubuntu.com/news page for 'award' though
[01:29] <Warbo> I'm finally making the switch back to spatial mode now :)
[01:29] <malv> when does umbrello not crash?
[01:29] <h6w> Nope.
[01:30] <tvalladon> how do I get the exact ammount of bites that the CD in the drive uses? I am trying to make a progress bar for making ISO's with with dd and pv
[01:30] <soundray> Warbo: is that the mode where nautilus remembers icon positions?
[01:30] <Warbo> soundray: "manual" remembers icon positions, spatial opens each folder in a new window and remembers their size and position
[01:31] <soundray> h6w: strange... post your /etc/fstab on the same site pls
[01:31] <trident523> Uhh, does the graphcal install take almost 4-5min to load up usually?
[01:31] <h6w> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/18050
[01:31] <h6w> ^-- fstab
[01:31] <soundray> Warbo: cool, I've been wanting to try that... Still missing the old Mac System 7 Finder sometimes...
[01:31] <Warbo> soundray: I've never used a Mac, but the Amiga Workbench does it
[01:31] <soundray> trident523: can do
[01:32] <h6w> Could it be that I have root mounted as xfs?
[01:33] <soundray> h6w: that looks okay, doesn't explain your problem... xfs as root should be okay, although it's unusual... Can't really tell you what's going on. Is a re-install out of the question?
[01:33] <trident523> soundray: seems like it just took a while to load. All is seemingly fine.
[01:34] <h6w> Probably not.  It would just be a bit of a pain as ndiswrapper took me some time to configure.
[01:34] <soundray> trident523: it can happen with certain hardware, low memory etc.
[01:34] <light_> hey guys, how can i check since when my linux is installed?
[01:34] <raptros-v76> light_: ?
[01:34] <soundray> h6w: just backup your /etc/ndiswrapper, or your entire /etc if you prefer
[01:35] <light_> raptros-v76, ?
[01:35] <raptros-v76> light_: what do you want to do?
[01:35] <soundray> light_: interesting question... ls -lt /etc might give you a clue if you look at the last line. Could be wrong, though.
[01:35] <light_> to check when did i installed my linux
[01:36] <hawkaloogie> soundray, can't be, i didn't have ubuntu in 2003
[01:36] <light_> -rw-r--r--  1 root   root      2586 2003-12-04 09:57 locale.alias
[01:36] <light_> not likely :P
[01:36] <hawkaloogie> and incidentally light_ has the same as i do
[01:36] <light_> :P
[01:37] <trident523> !install trident523
[01:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about install trident523 - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:37] <a1ecks> where can i find what awards ubuntu has won
[01:37] <morrolan> !awards
[01:37] <ubotu> I know nothing about awards - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:37] <soundray> light_, hawkaloogie, look at the time stamps and/or file contents in /var/log/installer/ -- they should be accurate
[01:37] <devhen> a1ecks, what do you need awards for?!
[01:38] <a1ecks> devhen: i just need to know what awards ubuntu has won
[01:38] <hawkaloogie> soundray, that i'll agree with
[01:38] <Warbo> devhen: Propaganda? We need some more of that :)
[01:38] <Stoned2daBones> can someone help me to upgrade my amsn?
[01:38] <light_> soundray, -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  47017 2006-04-02 00:01 status
[01:38] <light_> -rw------- 1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-04-02 00:01 syslog
[01:38] <Warbo> Stoned2daBones: Did you install it through APT?
[01:38] <light_> could be?
[01:38] <a1ecks> devhen: do you know?
[01:38] <light_> the last lines
[01:38] <Stoned2daBones> i really dont know what to do
[01:38] <yipe> grrrr
[01:39] <Warbo> a1ecks: Have you checked the fridge?
[01:39] <devhen> a1ecks, some awards listed here: http://www.ubuntu.com/news
[01:39] <yipe> Error 8: Kernel must be loaded before booting
[01:39] <Warbo> !synaptic > Stoned2daBones
[01:39] <sid> if I leave my laptop for a few minutes, when I come back the screen has shut off
[01:39] <morrolan> !fridge
[01:39] <ubotu> fridge is the Ubuntu's Community News website, and can be found at http://fridge.ubuntu.com
[01:39] <trident523> Going on 7 min for the 2nd step to load off.
[01:39] <yipe> I thought I did! it's right there!
[01:39] <sid> but it won't come back on
[01:39] <dli> yipe, what are you trying to do?
[01:39] <sid> the only way to get back on is to use control alt backspace
[01:39] <sproingie>  /me awards ubuntu the coveted Golden Spork
[01:39] <yipe> I've compiled a new kernel, all I'm trying to do is boot it up
[01:39] <soundray> light_: only you will know whether that's plausible or not.
[01:39] <Warbo> yipe: You copied arch/i386/boot/bzImage to /boot didn't you?
[01:40] <yipe> yeah....
[01:40] <dli> yipe, using kernel-package?
[01:40] <codecaine> anybody know how to add appz to the applications menu on gnome?
[01:40] <light_> soundray, i'm guessing you're right :P thx
[01:40] <yipe> dli, I don't know what you mean, this is only the second time I've compiled a kernel and the first time I basically had my hand held the whole time
[01:40] <notamisfit> codecaine: alacarte
[01:41] <light_> !dapper
[01:41] <Seveas> codecaine, righclick on 'application', select ;edit menus'
[01:41] <ubotu> dapper is the 4th and latest release of Ubuntu. Version 6.06 LTS, codename "Dapper Drake"
[01:41] <soundray> sid: maybe it's your nick -- sid is the guy who breaks toys...
[01:41] <Warbo> codecaine: Application>Accessories>Alacarte Menu Editor
[01:41] <light_> !dapper release date
[01:41] <ubotu> I know nothing about dapper release date - try searching http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?db=ubuntu
[01:41] <sid> haha
[01:41] <Stoned2daBones> there I am but still dont know what to do!
[01:41] <dli> yipe, read about kernel-package
[01:41] <soundray> sid: but it could just be your screensaver. Deactivate in System-Preferences-Screensaver.
[01:41] <sid> that's how I got my nick, because I used to look like him
[01:41] <dli> yipe, no need to support other ways of kernel building in ubuntu
[01:42] <soundray> sid: but those times have gone by, lucky you.
[01:42] <Stoned2daBones> I have version 0.94-1 and I want to get 0.96
[01:42] <sid> yup
[01:42] <sid> I do have my screensaver disabled
[01:42] <Warbo> Stoned2daBones: Search for AMSN and click on the little box next to it. Select "Mark for upgrade". If that option is not there then it is already at the newest version
[01:42] <morrolan> light_ dapper was released on the 1st June 2006
[01:42] <deltoya> sid: It's the energy savings settings
[01:42] <soundray> sid: is it trying to suspend or hibernate? Check your powersave settings
[01:42] <ScurveyFrog> hello
[01:43] <dli> yipe, after you make menuconfig, do: make-kpkg kernel-image
[01:43] <ScurveyFrog> I'm trying to get vmware running as a separate session in ubuntu
[01:43] <sid> where are the powersave settings?
[01:43] <digitalhav0c> anyone know were the compiz start up script is located in ubuntu
[01:43] <trident523> Gah. My lack of ability to wait is getting to me.
[01:43] <Stoned2daBones> but if I go to check for new version I get a message that there is an upgrade
[01:43] <ScurveyFrog> I can get vmware to run as a session, but when I try to open Windows XP, it says that I don't have permission
[01:43] <soundray> sid: System-Preferences-Power Management (if you have dapper)
[01:43] <sid> nope, still using breezy
[01:43] <raptros-v76> digitalhav0c: there isnt one
[01:43] <ScurveyFrog> how can I get the right permissions?
[01:44] <yipe> is vmlinux not the file I was supposed to copy?
[01:44] <Warbo> Stoned2daBones: If you download a tar.gz archive from their site then you can use build-essential and checkinstall to install it
[01:44] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: which user are you, and does it work when you log in as that user to KDE, Gnome, ICEWM, etc. ?
[01:44] <digitalhav0c> raptros-v76, for me its /usr/bin/startxgl.sh
[01:44] <sid> gtsudo "update-manager -d" doesn't update to dapper (I tried)
[01:44] <digitalhav0c> thanks anyway
[01:44] <raptros-v76> digitalhav0c: in ubuntu?
[01:44] <Samus_Aran> yipe: vmlinux is not the kernel image, if that's what you're after
[01:44] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: yes, I can normally log in as that user
[01:44] <digitalhav0c> yeah im using ubuntu
[01:45] <Warbo> -d does development version doesn't it? (Edgy)
[01:45] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: it's my normal user account
[01:45] <Stoned2daBones> thats what I was thinking but I dont know how to do it
[01:45] <raptros-v76> digitalhav0c: oh, you already set it up?
[01:45] <digitalhav0c> but install using http://tazforum.thetazzone.com/viewtopic.php?t=2189
[01:45] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: but does VMware run fine under KDE or Gnome, or do you get the permission problem ?
[01:45] <dli> yipe, as I said, stop, and read about kernel-package
[01:45] <digitalhav0c> raptros-v76, yeah
[01:45] <yipe> okay
[01:45] <raptros-v76> digitalhav0c: so whats the question
[01:45] <soundray> sid: you'd have to replace all occurrences of "breezy" in /etc/apt/sources.list with "dapper" first, then it might work
[01:45] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: no, it runs fine normally
[01:45] <Lord_Athur> hi all
[01:46] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: first step, check the VMware log files.  they should be in the directory of the virtual hard drive
[01:46] <soundray> sid: if it still doesn't upgrade, upgrade your update-manager separately and try again
[01:46] <lukaswayne9> Hey all, I've got an Ubuntu partition that I pretty much wrecked.  I would like to reinstall ubuntu, but have it not touch my /home folder.  Is this possible?
[01:47] <Stoned2daBones> thanks man 4 the link!
[01:47] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: hopefully it will tell you what it was not having permission to do.  failing that, I recommend running vmware from a script on that session, and having it do an strace (tracks all system calls) and grep for "permission denied" messages in the output
[01:47] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: without knowing what file the problem is with, it's hard to guess
[01:47] <TLE> lukaswayne9: how large is your home folder can't you back it up ?
[01:47] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: normally I have to use sudo to make vmware work
[01:47] <soundray> lukaswayne9: first of all, it's best to back up your /home folder. Having said that, you can probably reinstall, resize the old root and have it be mounted as /home, if you make the right choices in the installer.
[01:48] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: okay, then you have not set up VMware properly
[01:48] <ThunderStruck> lukaswayne9: back it up or make a partition for it
[01:48] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: but I don't think sudo is being used to start vmware in the session
[01:48] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: okay, what should I have done?
[01:48] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: VMware when installed properly will work as any user that has permission to the directory where the virtual hard drive is (which should be owned by your user)
[01:48] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: so the problem is that I used sudo to install it?
[01:48] <soundray> lukaswayne9: you might try un-wrecking your root partition, too...
[01:49] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: VMware does need to be installed as root, but for running it, it should just be your user, not root (sudo will run it as root)
[01:49] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: just chown the directory that has the virtual hard drive to your user, and then try running it as that user again
[01:49] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: I've already done that
[01:49] <lukaswayne9> soundray: Yeah, maybe.  I'm running edgy, so things are pretty fubar
[01:50] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: all the files in the directory ?
[01:50] <soundray> lukaswayne9: oh. Have you tried #ubuntu+1 ?
[01:50] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: yeah, but let me try it again, sometimes subdirectories escape the recursion
[01:50] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: as your user, can you cd to the directory and less the files ?
[01:50] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: it might be a parent directory you do not have permission to
[01:50] <MikeyMike> hey soundray would you just resize /dev/hda1/ in this image to install ubuntu ? http://xs103.xs.to/xs103/06286/Screenshot.png
[01:51] <lukaswayne9> soundray: Eh, I'm not really that concerned in fixing it.  I've got another dapper machine and a live CD.
[01:51] <eddie_nX> hey
[01:51] <morrolan> How do I install a Windows game using Wine? Wine in 5.04 had GUI to help get set up - now I just don't know what I'm doing
[01:51] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: yes, I can. all files are owned by my user
[01:51] <lukaswayne9> soundray: Stuff will probably get fixed around Knot 1, so I might just wait out
[01:51] <Samus_Aran> can someone tell me what package /etc/init.d/postfix comes from ?
[01:51] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: and there are no subdirectories
[01:52] <eddie_nX> i just installed ubunto and i set my username to root oops but i figured on using the default root account now i try to login (after first reboot) and it says cant login admin from this screen
[01:52] <Samus_Aran> morrolan: if you don't get any answers in here, or on the Ubuntu Wiki, try asking in the official WINE channel: #WineHQ
[01:52] <morrolan> Thanks
[01:53] <soundray> MikeyMike: sounds like a reasonable proposition. I would do it differently, though -- I'd back up the contents of hda2 and hda3, then delete them and have the extended partition cover the whole of the disk space beyond the resized hda1.
[01:53] <eddie_nX> so how do i login or do i have to re-install... also I tried cnt alt bksp and tried logining in from the other screen
[01:53] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: when you run "vmware" from the console, as your user, you should see any permission denied messages
[01:53] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: without using sudo
[01:53] <MikeyMike> soundray: why? and i dont think hda2 and hda3 can be deleted.. how can i tell whats actually on them?
[01:54] <MikeyMike> if you dont mind me asking that is.......
[01:54] <zcat[1] > eddie_nX: if you only just installed, reinstalling is probably easiest..
[01:54] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: ah hah! it's the .vmware directory that escaped my chown
[01:54] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: ah, good.  hopefully that's all
[01:54] <soundray> eddie_nX: hmm, interesting... you could try booting in recovery mode, add a new user and add that user to all relevant groups. Might be easier to reinstall, though.
[01:55] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: once you have it running fine as your user, it should also work under the login session
[01:55] <eddie_nX> but im curious i guess root cant login and run xwindows (or ubuntu)
[01:55] <Toba> how can I tell what linux kernel I'll be running when I reboot
[01:55] <Toba> it upgraded my kernel but I don't know what to
[01:55] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: it's kind of a neat idea to have VMware as a login session, heh
[01:55] <zcat[1] > someone should file a bug, the installer shouldn't let you use 'root' as the first nonroot account name :)
[01:55] <soundray> MikeyMike: the way it is, if you resize hda1 and create new partitions in the space you gain, you get a strange ordering of primary partitions that some systems (not Linux) might have issues with.
[01:56] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: now it doesn't show me errors, but it still doesn't show Windows XP in the list of Virtual Machines
[01:56] <eddie_nX> lol
[01:56] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: are you aware that you can tell VMware to automatically launch a particular session fullscreened ?  then it wouldn't load up the GUI and it would seem just like booting into it
[01:56] <eddie_nX> yeah thats odd
[01:56] <eddie_nX> if it piled a username onto root
[01:56] <Lord_Athur> Is there a channel about partners?
[01:56] <MikeyMike> soundray: would XP have issues with it?
[01:56] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: yes, that's what I'm going for
[01:56] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: you were running as root before, and now as your user.  probably it has just forgotten the session
[01:56] <eddie_nX> lol so normally can you login to console as root and then start x
[01:56] <soundray> MikeyMike: I don't know -- you'd have to ask someone who uses XP...
[01:56] <MikeyMike> soundray:  ha ha :D
[01:56] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: just go to "File > Open session", or whatever it is called, and go to the virtual hard drive
[01:57] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: it should add it to the list after that
[01:57] <soundray> eddie_nX: no, normally you can't login as root at all on ubuntu.
[01:57] <zcat[1] > I have no idea.. but I'd guess it failed to make a login at all since root is already used, and probably hasn't set a password anywhere
[01:57] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: it said unable to add virtual machine, permission denied
[01:57] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: what showed up on the console ?
[01:58] <eddie_nX> but ur normal user account would be able to make system changes essentially like a root user would?
[01:58] <zcat[1] > !sudo
[01:58] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:58] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: nothing
[01:58] <eddie_nX> ahh ok
[01:58] <soundray> eddie_nX: yes: the first one you create can run admin programs, and any other user you create and equip with the appropriate privileges after that.
[01:59] <eddie_nX> Im used to more uh linux-like linux lol would kubunto be more like redhat ?
[01:59] <zcat[1] > redhat would be more like redhat :)
[01:59] <eddie_nX> with the kde enviroment
[01:59] <zcat[1] > kubuntu is more like ubuntu with kde on top.
[01:59] <soundray> eddie_nX: no, it follows the same sudo philosophy. Do read those web pages, though. It's very easy and advantageous to get used to the Ubuntu way of doing things.
[02:00] <Frankenstein> whats wrong with installing ubuntu and than selecting the kde packages?
[02:00] <eddie_nX> and ubunto is essentially linux or is it a different os altogether?
[02:00] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: I guess try running it through strace so you can see what it is erroring on
[02:00] <notamisfit> yes ubuntu is linux
[02:00] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: correction, it said no permission to perform this operation
[02:00] <notamisfit> gnu/linux that is
[02:00] <Frankenstein> ubuntu is based of debian hence the apt-get
[02:00] <soundray> eddie_nX: Linux is the kernel at the heart of Ubuntu.
[02:00] <zcat[1] > Frankenstein: nothing wrong with it.. apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and you get basically kubuntu.
[02:00] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: strace -f vmware 2>&1 | grep -i permission
[02:00] <Frankenstein> :)
[02:00] <Lord_Athur> what's the webpage of the contactCode?
[02:00] <Frankenstein> anyway, i have a question!
[02:01] <Samus_Aran> eddie_nX: Ubuntu is a "distro" (distribution) or "flavour" of GNU/Linux
[02:01] <Frankenstein> my FireFox cant seem to produce sound through any flash objects! like the youtube players etc... im running drapper with latest software etc... my soundcard is onboard and works with XMMS, gaim, and the lot
[02:02] <Samus_Aran> Frankenstein: try running firefox through a terminal, and see if any errors appear there
[02:02] <notamisfit> p4c0, good to hear
[02:02] <zcat[1] >  11:58:04 up 1 day, 56 min,  4 users,  load average: 11.91, 11.71, 9.73
[02:02] <Frankenstein> ok one seccond Samus_Aran
[02:02] <eddie_nX> ok well im not discouraged yet I will reinstall and start learnin'
[02:02] <Samus_Aran> Frankenstein: do you have more than one soundcard ?  it might be trying to use the wrong one
[02:02] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: wow, that slows things down like crazy
[02:02] <eddie_nX> thanks ppl
[02:02] <zcat[1] > damn java-vm !
[02:02] <Frankenstein> Samus_Aran, just one
[02:02] <ThunderStruck> its a known issue
[02:03] <notamisfit> disregard last, wrong channel
[02:03] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: yes, it will slow it down.  if you didn't use the grep, you would see every system call the program made ... thousands upon thousands
[02:03] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: yeah, grep is cool like that
[02:03] <Lighty> I need some help with xorg configuration. I can't get the Screen Resolution dialog to allow me to change resolutions.
[02:04] <edju> Tried to install ubuntu off the live cd - but at the first screen, set the time zone, there is no "next" or "continue" or "OK" - so, where to go from there?
[02:04] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: word of advice, do not ever run "strace" on the terminal app you're currently running, heh.  it goes into a crazy loop trying to display the system calls into the terminal, which produces more system calls .. etc.
[02:04] <Frankenstein> nope, no errors when started from the terminal!
[02:04] <sam_> how do you install kde under ubuntu?
[02:04] <Samus_Aran> ScurveyFrog: I actually had it lock up my X server a couple years ago when I tried it, heh
[02:04] <zcat[1] > Frankenstein: I think flash uses audio directly, and might be conflicting with esd... kill esd or set it to free up the card quicker (not sure where to do that)
[02:04] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: sounds like fun!
[02:04] <Samus_Aran> sam_: apt-get install kde
[02:04] <ThunderStruck> Samus_Aran: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:04] <VirusDotNET> hey how can i cancel this thing. it keeps trying to reconnect
[02:04] <sam_> ta
[02:05] <soundray> sam_: hold on...
[02:05] <Samus_Aran> ThunderStruck: okay.  I just clicked on a couple KDE apps in Synaptic and it did the rest, heh
[02:05] <id10t> 'lo... how can i control what device to record sound from? i've got a usb cam (works) with mic  as well as my normal sound card with mic...
[02:05] <Frankenstein> esd?
[02:05] <zcat[1] > there might also be a way to make flash use esd... but not sure
[02:05] <Frankenstein> and what DC C thing? :P
[02:05] <soundray> sam_: if you want a complete kde environment, install kubuntu-desktop
[02:05] <skavenge> if gnome is installed and you run that install kubuntu-desktop does it replace gnome?
[02:05] <ThunderStruck> skavenge: no
[02:05] <Samus_Aran> id10t: if you're using ALSA, open up "alsamixer" in a terminal and then press Tab to cycle through the screens.  one is to choose what the input device is for recording
[02:06] <VirusDotNET> how can i cancel this reconnecting installing of this application ?
[02:06] <yipe> compiling.... compiling.... still compiling...
[02:06] <ThunderStruck> Frankenstein: please join #ubuntu-offtopic for non-ubuntu support
[02:06] <skavenge> ThunderStruck: is there a way to make it? Can I have a seperate user using kde?
[02:06] <yipe> someday I will have a kernel
[02:06] <id10t> Samus_Aran, thanks... its just an apt-get install away :)
[02:06] <zcat[1] > skavenge: you get boot and can choose which desktop you want at login
[02:06] <sam_> will installing kde under ubuntu not give a 'complete kde' alternative
[02:06] <zcat[1] > *both
[02:06] <sam_> or will it just be part of kde
[02:06] <Frankenstein> ThunderStruck, this IS ubuntu support....
[02:06] <soundray> yipe: in the days of 386 CPUs it took a weekend to compile a kernel
[02:06] <ThunderStruck> skavenge: dont know about seperate users but that still wouldnt replace gnome
[02:06] <Samus_Aran> id10t: in the main screen you can turn on or off whether your speakers will be playing back the audio from the mic.  usually you will want to mute that, otherwise you can get really nasty feedback loops
[02:06] <ThunderStruck> Frankenstein: the dcc exploit is not
[02:06] <Frankenstein> that was a joke
[02:07] <Frankenstein> anyway! i killall'd esd and still not working im afraid
[02:07] <s1gnal> hi, how do I open a serial port that has a device attached to it? similar to the way I would connect to something using hyperterm in windows for example?
[02:07] <skavenge> last time in breezy when i tried installing kde and gnome both window managers apps were in each others menus .. i remember kde apps in gnome menu at least, pretty messy
[02:07] <sam_> How do you get dvd support under ubuntu?
[02:07] <yipe> um, am I mistaken or am I ON a 386 machine?
[02:07] <soundray> skavenge: in the gdm login window, you can set a per-user preference for kde or gnome
[02:07] <sam_> and mp3 etc
[02:07] <Samus_Aran> id10t: one thing to note is that every soundcard has different labels in alsamixer, this is unfortunately due to the fact that they just take the names straight off the soundcard, and don't try to translate them into something sensible (as happens with a Windows soundcard driver), so the mixer items often have very random names
[02:07] <Frankenstein> sigh, ill just go to firefox support
[02:07] <Frankenstein> thanks
[02:08] <ThunderStruck> !mp3 > sam_
[02:08] <zcat[1] > yipe: i386 archetecture, probably a 686 chip.
[02:08] <yipe> yeah....
[02:08] <ThunderStruck> sam_ read your pm to find out more
[02:08] <skavenge> soundray: ill try that thnx
[02:08] <yipe> I just wanted to be difficult
[02:08] <ScurveyFrog> sam_: the only way is illegal, Automatix will do it for you
[02:08] <Samus_Aran> id10t: so for example my soundcard has "IEC958 AC97 1" as one of the mixer items I need to use for microphone (at least I think that was my mic one)
[02:08] <id10t> Samus_Aran, anything i can do in /etc to control what gets what?  i'd be happy if i could just explicity assign the mic on my webcam /dev/dsp6 or something "silly" and be done
[02:08] <ThunderStruck> ScurveyFrog: thats not true
[02:08] <raxor> hi all, I am trying to dual-boot with an XP install on hda and ubuntu on hdb. I have modified my boot.ini to add an entry that points to an ubuntu.bin file I created using dd, but it will not run grub-- anyone know about these things?
[02:08] <ScurveyFrog> sam_: but it's illegal in the US
[02:09] <soundray> yipe: you've succeeded admirably
[02:09] <ScurveyFrog> ThunderStruck: what would be the legal way?
[02:09] <raptros-v76> yipe: you always want to be difficult
[02:09] <zcat[1] > most people are on i386, a few use amd64 and very few use powerPC
[02:09] <dxdemetriou> can I change somehow my xorg.conf to start the x11 in ctrl-alt-f7 for the monitor and in ctrl-alt-f9 for tv?
[02:09] <yipe> hey raptros-v76, and yes, yes I do
[02:09] <Samus_Aran> id10t: unfortunately, each audio app has its own method of choosing the soundcard it uses for input and/or output, so you'll need to set it in your recording application
[02:09] <sam_> ta
[02:09] <ThunderStruck> ScurveyFrog: there first is _no_ legal way and sencond everything you need is in multiverse repos and can get with apt
[02:09] <sam_> why is it illegal to play mp3s?
[02:09] <yipe> which is probably why I'm banned from offtopic AGAIN
[02:10] <ThunderStruck> sam_: its not if you pay for them
[02:10] <yipe> that and sev has emotional problems:P
[02:10] <notamisfit> sam_ : mp3 is patent-encumbered and requires royalties
[02:10] <Samus_Aran> id10t: if the app is using OSS emulation (usually older apps), then it will use /dev/dsp by default, which will be a symlink to the OSS emulation of the first soundcard driver that was loaded
[02:10] <id10t> Samus_Aran, right... be alot easier if i knew webcam was always /dev/dsp6
[02:10] <soundray> sam_: don't listen. Playing mp3s does not require paying royalties.
[02:10] <Samus_Aran> id10t: for ALSA based audio, there are items in /dev/snd/
[02:10] <yipe> when did it become illegal to not like someone?
[02:10] <ThunderStruck> yipe: _never_ talk about anyone like that
[02:11] <ScurveyFrog> soundray: I wasn't talking about mp3's, he asked about DVDs
[02:11] <ThunderStruck> yipe: to not like and to be offtopic and to talk about people is different
[02:11] <crimsun> id10t: you can tell a usb audio device to never be card 0, though.
[02:11] <Lighty> I can't get the Screen Resolution dialog to allow me to change resolutions even though /etc/X11/xorg.conf has multiple defined.
[02:11] <soundray> sam_: developing an mp3 player does require payments to the Fraunhofer Gesellschaft in some legislatures.
[02:11] <crimsun> id10t: where "never" means "prefer any other device before this one"
[02:11] <zcat[1] > In NZ, DVDCSS and region coding are an illegal restraint of trade.   To install a java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java For the runtime Sun Java install sun-java5-jre from the Multiverse repository
[02:15] <ScurveyFrog> Samus_Aran: well, I need to go. it's time to get off work. I'll try again later
[02:16] <zcat[1] > !codecs
[02:16] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:16] <SurfnKid> i gotta run
[02:16] <SurfnKid> bbl
[02:16] <NthDegree> sam_ you may want to enable universe and multiverse repositories to get the full list of software
[02:16] <damion_> how do i mount my sony psp to ubuntu
[02:16] <Talisker> How do I get the damn thing to play .rm files?
[02:16] <weakwire> hi  i run xgl and when i play video my cpu goes 80 %...also when i get for instance to play glest i get this.:Exception: Your system supports OpenGL version "1.2 (2.0.2 NVIDIA 87.62)"
[02:16] <weakwire> Glest needs at least version 1.3 to work
[02:16] <weakwire> .what can i do?
[02:16] <zcat[1] > Talisker: w32codecs
[02:16] <peesquad> Ubuntu is the worst Linux distro ever
[02:16] <Talisker> I already got them
[02:16] <DBO> yay netsplit
[02:17] <soundray> Talisker: not by swearing. Read about restricted formats:
[02:17] <soundray> !restricted
[02:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:17] <zcat[1] > then mplayer should handle rm files...
[02:17] <dash`> I just was getting an error that a program cannot be used because I have an older version of java
[02:17] <raxor_> !grub
[02:17] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:17] <zcat[1] > not all players use w32codecs.. mplayer does though
[02:17] <yipe> someone please squash peesquad like a bug please
[02:17] <SurfnKid> yea sure peewhacked
[02:17] <Talisker> This guy was just k-lined for saying Ubuntu sucks?
[02:17] <ThunderStruck> he got k-lined
[02:17] <soundray> Talisker: and consider installing realplayer from the nonstandard repos -- read easysource
[02:17] <SurfnKid> i disagree totally
[02:17] <soundray> !easysource
[02:17] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[02:17] <ThunderStruck> Talisker: no
[02:17] <ThunderStruck> Talisker: it was for the dcc exploit
[02:18] <p33squad> still Ubuntu is the worst Linux distro ever and your channel is pwned anyways :)
[02:18] <yipe> Talisker, right after he said that he sent out the DCC exploit and knocked a whole bunch of people done, that was an attack not a netsplit
[02:18] <SurfnKid> someone stop playing with the fiber optic backbone please
[02:18] <damion_> hello is there a way to mount a psp to ubuntu
[02:18] <SurfnKid> =]
[02:18] <Talisker> !restricted
[02:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:19] <zcat[1] > nice 'sploit!!
[02:19] <Madpilot> yipe, please be careful saying "D C C" in channel - thanks
[02:19] <Talisker> THe restricted page is not much help
[02:19] <yipe> even the word causes problems? I didn't know that, sorry
[02:19] <soundray> Talisker: EasyUbuntu is another good one -- not sure if the current version helps you install realplayer, but anyway...
[02:19] <soundray> !easyubuntu
[02:19] <ubotu> easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/ ; for help and discussion of easyubuntu please join #easyubuntu.
[02:19] <raptros-v76> yipe: wtf happened to me?
[02:19] <Lord_Athur> hi all, I need some help with openPGP, is there anybody available to help me, please?
[02:19] <zcat[1] > what software is being killed by 'delta charlie charlie' ?
[02:19] <sharms2> !tell Lord_Athur about anyone
[02:20] <yipe> raptros-v76, peesquad is attacking the channel right now
[02:20] -lilo:#ubuntu- Hi all.  We're under attack from the D-C See monster!
[02:20] -lilo:#ubuntu- Please reconnect to freenode via server chat.freenode.net, port 8001 (instead of the default port, 6667), to avoid further problems.
[02:20] <Talisker> What does that mean?
[02:20] <nalioth> yipe: behave please
[02:20] <SurfnKid> Madpilot, dont tell me that, i thought this was all behind a big cisco :P
[02:21] <nalioth> Talisker: what does what mean?
[02:21] <raptros-v76> ok where do i change the port in xchat?
[02:21] <Talisker> "Your sources.list does not match your system configuration"
[02:21] <nalioth> raptros-v76: in your server prefs
[02:21] <raptros-v76> nalioth: thanks
[02:21] <Madpilot> SurfnKid, not Freenode's routers - the basic consumer ones lots of people have in their houses
[02:21] <zcat[1] > Talisker: apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade  perhaps?
[02:21] <lilo> I'm going to repeat that one
[02:21] -lilo:#ubuntu- Hi all. If you were just disconnected, you were the victim of an exploit for netgear and linksys routers.
[02:21] -lilo:#ubuntu- Please reconnect to freenode via server chat.freenode.net, port 8001 (instead of the default port, 6667), to avoid further problems.
[02:21] <SurfnKid> Madpilot, that causes all this?
[02:21] <Lord_Athur> in the page: https://launchpad.net/people/alejandro-leonvega/+editpgpkeys I could see the command: "gpg --send-key key-id", what does "key-id" meam?
[02:21] <SurfnKid> who's anyones?
[02:22] <nalioth> !dcc
[02:22] <ubotu> There are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. If you are bitten by this, please upgrade your router firmware - see also http://nvd.nist.gov/nvd.cfm?cvename=CVE-2006-1068
[02:22] <SurfnKid> and behind a netgear wifi
[02:22] <yipe> nalioth what did I do NOW? Everyone is on my case today
[02:22] <lilo> it's also possible that there are Cisco routers with the problem
[02:22] <nalioth> yipe: this is a channel for support, please
[02:22] <SurfnKid> lilo, nasty
[02:22] <yipe> all I was doing is telling raptros-v76 why he was getting repeatedly kicked, because he asked
[02:22] <NthDegree> ] ha i have netgear
[02:23] <NthDegree> just update the firmware no problem
[02:23] <NthDegree> Contents of packet: DCC SEND AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[02:23] <NthDegree> wtf
[02:23] <mikechml> :/
[02:23] <SurfnKid> ?
[02:23] <MikeyMike> how do i mount /dev/sda3 for user mikeymike at /mnt/repository ?
[02:23] <MikeyMike> sda3 is ntf
[02:23] <MikeyMike> ntfs
[02:23] <NthDegree> Received a malformed DCC request from joingmorning
[02:23] <raxor_> MikeyMike: just once or permanently?
[02:24] <SurfnKid> Madpilot, someone's router is sending this automatically then
[02:24] <raptros-v76> i cant fix the port settings!
[02:24] <MikeyMike> just once.. permanently
[02:24] <MikeyMike> lol
[02:24] <Madpilot> ubotu, tell MikeyMike about ntfs
[02:24] <SurfnKid> Madpilot, anyway to find out whos
[02:24] <ThunderStruck> he didnt take the warning
[02:24] -lilo:#ubuntu- Hi all. If you were just disconnected, you were the victim of an exploit for netgear and linksys routers.
[02:24] -lilo:#ubuntu- Please reconnect to freenode via server chat.freenode.net, port 8001 (instead of the default port, 6667), to avoid further problems.
[02:24] <Madpilot> SurfnKid, no, this is being done by an idiot, or a bot owned by an idiot
[02:24] <MikeyMike> raxor for the time being i will settle for temporary mount
[02:24] <SurfnKid> ok
[02:24] <MikeyMike> i can hack my fstab later
[02:24] <SurfnKid> what a retard
[02:24] <jiSh> didnt mess with my router
[02:24] <jiSh> woot :P
[02:24] <Talisker> Heh
[02:24] <Talisker> I feel secure
[02:24] <raxor_> ntfs in read only mode or do you want to use Fuse?
[02:24] <notamisfit> does this happen often?
[02:25] <MikeyMike> read only mode is fine
[02:25] <DBO> notamisfit, not too often no
[02:25] <lilo> notamisfit: not too often, but from time to time
[02:25] <MikeyMike> its like -o username or something but i forgot the commands man
[02:25] <raptros-v76> ok this should fix it i guess
[02:25] <jiSh> stupid little kids and their "cracking" skills
[02:25] <zcat[1] > ........
[02:25] <lilo> raptros-v76: port 8001?
[02:25] <lilo> raptros-v76: that should do it for now
[02:25] <wenko> im so tired of these cptcc messages
[02:25] <soundray> DBO: even once is too often, don't you think?
[02:25] <raptros-v76> lilo: how do i do it in xchat?
[02:25] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: (xorg question, remember?) xrandr only listed one resolution, but I have 5 each for 2 different depths in xorg.conf.
[02:25] <lilo> raptros-v76: you should also look at your router manufacturer's firmware upgrade pages
[02:26] <lilo> raptros-v76: hmmm....look at the server list, at the server you're connecting to now....I don't have xchat....wait, maybe I do have it handy
[02:26] <lilo> go to the xchat server list menu item, probably off the File menu
[02:26] <calc> does libxine no longer play mp3 files?
[02:26] <soundray> nalioth: please redo with one less 'e'
[02:26] <raptros-v76> lilo i think ive fixed it,
[02:26] <lilo> there should be an entry for freenode, you edit it
[02:26] <lilo> raptros-v76: cool
[02:26] <raptros-v76> only one way to find out
[02:27] <Lighty> Non-standard, it's irc.freenode.net/8001 (instead of a ':') in XChat.
[02:27] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: that means that there was something wrong with those resolutions for your current monitor.  the two most likely causes, which are actually the same: 1) Xorg can't detect your monitor sync rates, or 2) your monitor was off when Xorg was loaded, which causes autodetection to fail, go to 1
[02:27] <nalioth> soundray: huh?
[02:27] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: if your monitor was on, and it still is not letting you use modes that you know your monitor is capable of, you may need to enter your monitors horizontal and vertical sync numbers into the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:28] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Already done.
[02:28] <soundray> nalioth: ignore me. I meant a mutation that Nth... used in the username, but it was irrelevant, apparently.
[02:28] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: then you will need to look in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see why it was unable to use the modes in question
[02:28] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: I've got modelines in there for all five resolutions.
[02:28] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Darn it! Why do I never remember to check the logs! :-)
[02:28] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: the most common one is "sync out of range", which is what I just described, but there are others
[02:29] <Talisker> sudo
[02:29] <Talisker> Err.. I still get this error
[02:29] <Talisker> "Your sources.list does not match your system configuration."
[02:29] <Samus_Aran> does anyone know what package provides /etc/init.d/postfix ?  it is not "postfix", as one would presume
[02:29] <raxor_> sorry MikeyMike, one more second
[02:30] <Samus_Aran> I am unable to install postfix, as it can't find this file
[02:30] <MikeyMike> ok
[02:30] <raxor_> MikeyMike, one user or all users?
[02:30] <MikeyMike> just me
[02:30] <MikeyMike> user mikeymike
[02:30] <Talisker> Where are the system configurations that my sources.list should match?
[02:30] <raxor_> I think you have to add a group
[02:30] <MikeyMike> /dev/sda3
[02:30] <Talisker> I always thought that sources.list IS a part of my system configuration
[02:31] <MikeyMike> raxor_: i thought it was like o i username
[02:31] <MikeyMike> or something like that
[02:31] <Eleaf> no exploition
[02:31] <Eleaf> okay.
[02:31] <raxor_> hmm
[02:31] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: which video driver are you using for your Xorg server ?
[02:31] <Lighty> nvidia
[02:31] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: nvidia (sorry, forgot nick)
[02:32] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: the binary driver or "nv" that comes with Xorg ?  I had a lot of problems using nv for certain modes (e.g. 1280x1024), but they all work for me with the binary driver
[02:32] <raxor_> all users is : /dev/sda3 /media/share ntfs nls=utf8,umask=0002 0 0
[02:32] <nalioth> Samus_Aran: use apt-file
[02:32] <Talisker> !w32codecs
[02:32] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:32] <nalioth> !apt-file
[02:32] <raxor_> looking for the other
[02:32] <ubotu> apt-file is a program that can tell you in which package you can find the files you look for. sudo apt-get install apt-file && sudo apt-file update
[02:32] <MikeyMike> raxor_: why mask?
[02:32] <Samus_Aran> nalioth: hm, never heard of that one
[02:32] <raxor_> gah
[02:32] <raxor_> umask=0222
[02:32] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: No. The actual nvidia driver. I play World of Warcraft via Cedega and nv drivers weren't good enough.
[02:32] <MikeyMike> replace umask=0002 with umask=0222
[02:32] <Samus_Aran> nalioth: it doesn't exist on my system, is that something that should be installed, or is it an option to apt-cache or something ?
[02:33] <soundray> Samus_Aran: that's strange... postfix does provide /etc/init.d/postfix
[02:33] <MikeyMike> replace umask=0002 with umask=0222 ??
[02:33] <raxor_> right
[02:33] <MikeyMike> ok
[02:33] <SurfnKid> ok finally
[02:33] <raxor_> I think that is the read only bit
[02:33] <soundray> Samus_Aran: sudo apt-get install apt-file ; sudo apt-file update
[02:33] <SonicvanaJr> Lighty is Cedega a monthly fee ?
[02:33] <raxor_> I am looking for the users bit
[02:33] <nalioth> Samus_Aran: yes, you can install it
[02:33] <Heretician> Can I burn an Ubuntu iso to a DVD-R?
[02:33] <raxor_> I did this *once* :)
[02:33] <Dark_Knight_209> Anyone have experience setting up nvidia drivers?
[02:33] <Heretician> *** need this answer quickly so i know if i should take this back
[02:33] <Heretician> think i got the wrong thing
[02:33] <Heretician> but i'm not completely sure
[02:33] <Lighty> SonicvanaJr: $5 per month but I think they have a trial so you can make sure your game works
[02:33] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: okay, then in your log file it should have a line that says "(II) NVIDIA(0): Validated modes:"
[02:33] <soundray> Samus_Aran: do a 'sudo touch /etc/init.d/postfix', then try to install again. Failing that, do a 'sudo apt-get -f install'
[02:33] <DosBubba> How can I modify my Windows toward Ubuntu?
[02:34] <SurfnKid> Madpilot, is this on the entire server? or just this chan
[02:34] <Samus_Aran> Heretician: yes
[02:34] <SurfnKid> DosBubba, reformat :P hehe jk
[02:34] <Heretician> okay
[02:34] <Madpilot> SurfnKid, no idea - but this channel gets trageted regularly :|
[02:34] <Samus_Aran> Heretician: you can even burn a floppy diskette image to a DVD
[02:34] <soundray> DosBubba: do you want to end up with a dual-boot system?
[02:34] <SurfnKid> Madpilot, :/
[02:34] <Heretician> http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[02:34] <Lighty> SonicvanaJr: Note that Cedega is only a build on top of wine to try to add DirectX routines that wine didn't have. But wine's catching up and it's all free.
[02:34] <DosBubba> SurfnKid, What? I just want to use Ubuntu so I can play my games faster.
[02:34] <Heretician> from that site?
[02:34] <Samus_Aran> Heretician: as far as PC BIOSes are concerned, they are all the same
[02:34] <Heretician> er
[02:34] <Heretician> that link
[02:34] <raxor_> MikeyMike: you can sudo mount -a so you don't have to reboot
[02:34] <ax7> hi
[02:34] <cyberfr0g> sup?
[02:34] <Heretician> ubuntu-6.06-desktop-i386.iso :)
[02:34] <SurfnKid> DosBubba, if you have an extra partition spare on your main drive, you can install Ubuntu and keep your exisiting NT partition
[02:35] <MikeyMike> yeah im really trying to do this without rebooting
[02:35] <MikeyMike> lol
[02:35] <Samus_Aran> Heretician: for example, I installed the Ubuntu 6.06 CD image to a 4.37GiB DVD, as I don't own CD-Rs anymore
[02:35] <soundray> DosBubba: ubuntu is not for playing games faster
[02:35] <Heretician> cool
[02:35] <Heretician> time to run ubuntu
[02:35] <DosBubba> soundray, Why would anyone use this then?
[02:35] <ax7> tell me
[02:35] <Talisker> oKtosiTe, I did a dist-upgrade, and a fix, I got the newest w32 codecs, and I still can't watch the RM files
[02:35] <raxor_> okay MikeyMike: this might work
[02:35] <cyberfr0g> confidential
[02:35] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Only "1600x1200" is shown on the Validated modes: line. :-(
[02:35] <SurfnKid> ok bbl
[02:35] <SurfnKid> gotta hit the mall
[02:35] <raxor_> (1) sudo addgroup ntfs
[02:35] <raxor_> (note the id
[02:35] <raxor_> )
[02:35] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: can you send me your xorg.conf file so I can take a quick look ?  might be something obvious
[02:36] <sharms2> Talisker: install realplayer
[02:36] <sharms2> !realplayer
[02:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:36] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: I haven't IRC'd in *years*. What's the recommended method to send stuff nowadays. I'm on XChat.
[02:36] <raxor_> (2) modify fstab: /dev/sda3 /media/share ntfs nls=utf8,gid=1001,umask=0222 0 0
[02:37] <raxor_> note that gid=xxxx where xxxx is the group Id for ntfs
[02:37] <MikeyMike> ok i got it
[02:37] <grphx> Hello, I am having some trouble here,
[02:37] <MikeyMike> thanks :)
[02:37] <MikeyMike> its mounted
[02:37] <raxor_> (3) sudo adduser username ntfs
[02:37] <Samus_Aran> Talisker: it seems to me that Ubuntu does not have all the codecs available for MPlayer/Xine that are actually out there.  I ended up just unpacking the codecs from mplayer's web site to play the few remaining ones that wouldn't work, like WMV9
[02:37] <raxor_> the other steps I was giving just limited it to your "username"
[02:37] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: /dcc send Samus_Aran /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:37] <grphx> Using Rom2.4 trying to start up this mud and I get the following error..   bash: ./startup: /bin/csh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory    when i type ./startup &
[02:38] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: and hope that you're not blocked by a firewall
[02:38] <Talisker> Samus_Aran, thanks
[02:38] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: DCC command entered. Waiting...
[02:38] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: darn, you're behind an unintelligent firewall
[02:38] <soundray> grphx: try 'sudo apt-get install csh'
[02:39] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: I can config it.
[02:39] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Unless it's a dynamic port, I suppose. :-)
[02:39] <TRoGDoR5050> I'm having trouble with ndiswrapper, can anybody help me?  I have the Linksys WMP54GS.  I've already followed these directions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[02:39] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: it sent me your internal IP address.  do you use a software firewall (iptables, etc.) or do you have a router ?
[02:39] <grphx> soundray: Gave me this..   Reading package lists... Done
[02:39] <grphx> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:39] <grphx> E: Couldn't find package csh
[02:39] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: you'll need to set X-
[02:40] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Router. DLink DI-624.
[02:40] <grphx> This is getting irritating.. heh
[02:40] <Talisker> Samus_Aran, could you maybe send me the pack? Mplayerhq doesn't want to load
[02:40] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: oops, hit enter. X-Chat to use a particular range of ports, then forward those.  if your router supports transparent DCC's, you can probably just set your external IP address inside X-Chat
[02:40] <soundray> grphx: okay, you need to learn about installing extra packages on Ubuntu. Check out http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonQuestions
[02:40] <TRoGDoR5050> Anyone?
[02:40] <Samus_Aran> Talisker: I have one from a couple weeks ago.  one sec
[02:41] <grphx> soundray: okay, thanks. I will get back to you in a bit.. =)
[02:41] <zcat[1] > Samus_Aran: woudn;t pasetbin be easier ? :-)
[02:41] <Talisker> thanks
[02:41] <zcat[1] > *pastebin
[02:41] <Talisker> Do it using Dee See Sea
[02:41] <Talisker> :)
[02:41] <soundray> grphx: I won't be here, but there's plenty of helpful people on this channel.
[02:41] <TRoGDoR5050> I'm having trouble with ndiswrapper, can anybody help me? I have the Linksys WMP54GS. I've already followed these directions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[02:41] <raptros-v76> ok has that ****er gone away
[02:41] <linuxuser> getting a error msg while trying to start pan newsreader as follows fptools.c:455: _FP_fgets: Assertion `*buf' failed.  any ideas?
[02:41] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Trying again.
[02:42] <loststar4545> to compile something  i do 1. ./configure 2. make 3. Make install
[02:42] <loststar4545> ?
[02:42] <Samus_Aran> Talisker: what video player do you use ?  I know these codecs work for all the Xine and MPlayer based players
[02:42] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: you will probably need to reconnect to FreeNode after changing settings
[02:42] <Talisker> mplayer/vlc
[02:42] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: it's still showing me the internal IP, tre reconnecting
[02:42] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Reconnecting. :-)
[02:42] <grphx> Anyone know what all packaged should be needed to run ROM2.4 under ubuntu?
[02:43] <soundray> TRoGDoR5050: you need to be more specific about your problem.
[02:43] <TRoGDoR5050> Alright, let me try again
[02:43] <linuxuser> getting a error msg while trying to start pan newsreader as follows fptools.c:455: _FP_fgets: Assertion `*buf' failed.  any ideas?
[02:43] <linuxuser> in dapper drake
[02:43] <darth_gimp> what is the best way to access a RAR archive?
[02:43] <linuxuser> darth: unrar
[02:43] <Samus_Aran> Talisker: okay, for MPlayer you can either dump all those codecs into the system codec dir, or you can run the video in MPlayer from a terminal, and it will tell you what codec it is trying to load, then just copy that one individual codec
[02:44] <darth_gimp> I installed "ARK" but it says "unrar is not in your PATH"
[02:44] <Samus_Aran> darth_gimp: Shareware RAR and open source UnRAR support extracting from RAR files, your choice
[02:44] <soundray> !rar
[02:44] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[02:44] <linuxuser> darth did you install unrar?
[02:44] <pdc303> darth_gimp: search for 'unrar' in synaptic
[02:44] <soundray> darth_gimp: ^^
[02:44] <TRoGDoR5050> I have installed ndiswrapper perfectly, as far as I can tell, and I can get my driver installed fine.  However, when I do modprobe ndiswrapper it says it can't find it.
[02:44] <darth_gimp> on my way
[02:44] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Any better?
[02:45] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: that time it has your IP, but I can't connect.  probably the port isn't open
[02:45] <darth_gimp> I guess I thought that ARK would have done that..
[02:45] <linuxuser> dapper drake just seems to cause me all sorts of problems
[02:45] <Talisker> Where is the system codec dir?
[02:46] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: the way DCC connections work is backware from regular connections.  if you want to send me a file, you send me a DCC Request over the IRC server (like a private message), and if I accept the request, I try to connect directly to your IRC client over the Internet, using the IP provided.  so it is people behind firewalls that can't send, rather than can't receive
[02:46] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: OK. Give me a couple of minutes. I appreciate your patience. I've wanted to get DCC working too for another channel I just started using.
[02:46] <Samus_Aran> *backward
[02:46] <lig> how do I find out what versions of PHP are available?  I tried sudo apt-get install php5.1.4 for the latest version but no go.
[02:46] <TRoGDoR5050> lig: Use synaptic.
[02:47] <raptros-v76> who is sharms?
[02:47] <Samus_Aran> lig: perhaps "apt-cache search php | less" or use synaptic
[02:47] <lig> Thanks
[02:47] <Samus_Aran> lig: the way Ubuntu and Debian normally work is there is one package for "the most current release", and other packages for older versions, which are numbered
[02:47] <darth_gimp> ok do I need to do a system re-start after getting unrar through synaptic?
[02:48] <soundray> darth_gimp: no
[02:48] <darth_gimp> I still get the same error...
[02:48] <TRoGDoR5050> darth_gimp: You're using Linux! You don't reboot!
[02:48] <Talisker> Samus_Aran, where is the codec dir?
[02:48] <darth_gimp> unrar not in path
[02:48] <lig> Samus_Aran, so just getting php should get me version 5.1.4?
[02:48] <Samus_Aran> reboot only for kernel upgrades, and getting past nVIDIA binary driver problems
[02:48] <soundray> TRoGDoR5050: did you use 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'?
[02:48] <zcat[1] > reboots are only for kernel upgrades...
[02:48] <TRoGDoR5050> soundray:Yes I did.
[02:48] <Lord_Athur> in the launchapad context, what's karma?
[02:49] <darth_gimp> So how do I get into this archive?
[02:49] <Trae> If I already have 2 SATA drives and 2 IDE CD drives on a machine would it be a bad idea (power drain wise) to stick say two more SATA drives on the same box?  Also, do most pci SATA cards work out of the box with Ubuntu?
[02:49] <soundray> TRoGDoR5050: strange. Try a 'sudo depmod -a && sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'
[02:49] <zcat[1] > pop a terminal and 'rar x foo.rar'  probably
[02:49] <TRoGDoR5050> Alright.
[02:50] <darth_gimp> zcat[1] , I don't understand...
[02:50] <Talisker> Samus_Aran, where should I copy these codecs you sent me to?
[02:50] <Samus_Aran> lig: well apparently php wants to prove me wrong, there is "php4" and "php5", for the two branches.  there is no "php" to install the newest one, heh
[02:50] <grphx> is there a command I can type in console to find my ip address?
[02:50] <soundray> Trae: 1) depends on your power supply; 2) yes, most of them do
[02:50] <TRoGDoR5050> BRB I'm in Winblows, I gotta reboot to do anything in Linux :(
[02:50] <meheren> how can you bring all the data from a ext 3 partition into a reiserfs part? nd keep the reiserfs partition type?
[02:50] <darth_gimp> I tried using ARK which is supposed to work with the RAR format but it says "unrar not in path" how do I get unrar in my path?
[02:50] <Trae> soundray, heh
[02:50] <Samus_Aran> lig: apt-get install php5 will install the newest v5
[02:51] <Trae> soundray, okies
[02:51] <zcat[1] > grphx: ifconfig
[02:51] <lig> k - and thanks Samus_Aran
[02:51] <Trae> soundray, what would you think you'd need as far as power supply to hold 6 drives like that?
[02:51] <Trae> 220 work?
[02:51] <Trae> or you need more?
[02:51] <grphx> THANKS
[02:52] <Jawbreaker27> does anyone have any experience with distorted/garbled display when trying to install 6.06?
[02:52] <raxor_> Jawbreaker27: only when trying to update the nvidia drivers incorrectly
[02:52] <soundray> darth_gimp: restart ARK if you've installed unrar-nonfree in the meantime
[02:52] <zcat[1] > Jawbreaker27: yes, but usually only from trying to use too-old monitors.
[02:53] <darth_gimp> Soundray.. I have.. let me try again.
[02:53] <Jawbreaker27> i didn't think my monitor was all that old... viewsonic pf790
[02:53] <Samus_Aran> Talisker: the default directory that MPlayer looks in is: /usr/lib/win32
[02:53] <javiolo> hi
[02:53] <Samus_Aran> Talisker: you can define another directory if you want, or just create that one and stick them there
[02:54] <Talisker> thanks
[02:54] <darth_gimp> Excellent.. it worked.. thanks!
[02:54] <MikeyMike> does anyone here know how to get hp pavillion wireless adaptor working in ubuntu?
[02:54] <MikeyMike> where to start?
[02:54] <darth_gimp> I've always hated rar for some reason
[02:54] <Samus_Aran> Jawbreaker27: I had problems, but it was because I had 3 video cards in my system
[02:54] <[Nige] > MikeyMike, start by doing a lspci
[02:54] <darth_gimp> thanks guys
[02:54] <Samus_Aran> darth_gimp: I love RAR, myself.  excellent compression, extremely secure encryption, very fast decompression ... but slow compression (still faster than bzip2, though)
[02:55] <[Nige] > MikeyMike, You need to find out who makes the the chipset for your wireless lan
[02:55] <soundray> Trae: most drives need around 10W, but can draw *much* more during spin-up. It really depends on the rest of your system. You can always try it out, and if you get strange problems, upgrade your PSU to ca. 350 W (if 220 W is what you have now)
[02:55] <MikeyMike> how might i do that?
[02:55] <zcat[1] > darth_gimp: me too.. as if the world really neded _yet another_ propriatory compressed archive format.. there's a dozen others already.
[02:55] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: How's that? Blocked still?
[02:55] <Jawbreaker27> Samus_Aran: in that case, do you think it might have something to do with having an SLI system (but only one card, and a shadow card installed in the second x16 slot)?
[02:55] <[Nige] > MikeyMike, open up terminal sudo lspci
[02:55] <Trae> soundray, ok, thanks for your feedback, I do appreciate it.
[02:55] <MikeyMike> okay
[02:55] <MikeyMike> then what
[02:56] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: still hitting your firewall
[02:56] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: the first port it tried was 45470, now it is trying 10050
[02:56] <[Nige] > then you will see something then about your chipset
[02:56] <MikeyMike> thanks
[02:56] <MikeyMike> very helpful
[02:56] <[Nige] > I cant remember what it is excatly, mine comes up as broadcomm
[02:56] <zcat[1] > !pastebin
[02:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:56] <MikeyMike> yeah this one too
[02:56] <[Nige] > ahh okay
[02:56] <MikeyMike> can u install it wihtout going online?
[02:56] <zcat[1] > ideal for sharing text config files :)
[02:56] <[Nige] > what verision is bcm43xx?
[02:57] <MikeyMike> bcm4318
[02:57] <Samus_Aran> Jawbreaker27: I've never had that setup, so I'm not too sure.  it would be nice if Ubuntu setup CD would give you the option of which card to try to load on ... currently it just guesses, and in my case it ended up in a very weird state
[02:57] <Samus_Aran> Jawbreaker27: are you able to remove that second card easily, or not ?
[02:57] <[Nige] > MikeyMike, the drivers shoudl be native to your linux kernel as of dapper
[02:57] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Oops. Off by one number. Trying again. (Port 10050 to 10071 are open.)
[02:57] <[Nige] > MikeyMike,  I am guessing you are using dapper
[02:57] <Samus_Aran> Jawbreaker27: I just removed my two PCI cards and it worked fine.  I think there is also a textual install that you could try, though it isn't as nice ... you can't play Tetris as you wait for it to install =p
[02:58] <MikeyMike> ok well im helping someone on the phone :)
[02:58] <MikeyMike> yes dapper
[02:58] <MikeyMike> on the LIVE CD
[02:58] <[Nige] > oh
[02:58] <[Nige] > :(
[02:58] <MikeyMike> trying to get her self sufficient
[02:58] <MikeyMike> so she can partition her drives on her own
[02:58] <lulu> hi
[02:58] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: it is still trying <IP_ADDRESS> port 10050, and not getting through to your IRC client.  perhaps you need to reconnect again
[02:58] <MikeyMike> all she needs is network accessability
[02:58] <TRoGDoR5050> soundray: I just did 'sudo depmod -a && sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' and it came back and said module ndiswrapper not found.
[02:58] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: I always just reconnect after changing anything to do with DCC, seems to often help
[02:58] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: OK.
[02:59] <[Nige] > MikeyMike, you will need to the bcm43xx-fwcutter - Utility for extracting Broadcom 43xx firmware
[02:59] <[Nige] > MikeyMike, you can apt-get that :)
[02:59] <MikeyMike> thanks
[02:59] <MikeyMike> ok how do i do that haha
[02:59] <MikeyMike> apt-get bcm4318-fwcutter ??
[02:59] <[Nige] > MikeyMike, apt-get install bcm43xx-fwcutter
[02:59] <Jawbreaker27> Samus_Aran: the second card is actually just a dummy "card".  they call it a "shadow card" and i'm not sure if this is something exclusive to the manufacturer or what, but it's aparently necessary when using only one video card that is capable of SLI on an SLI capable motherboard, so I didn't think to try taking it out.  It's not difficult to remove, though, so I guess I'll give that a try.  Thanks.
[02:59] <MikeyMike> install
[02:59] <crogue5> what's the website to the list of wireless cards that work and don't?
[02:59] <Samus_Aran> Talisker: did you get it going ?
[03:00] <ThunderStruck> !hardware
[03:00] <nalioth> !wireless
[03:00] <ubotu> For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[03:00] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs with Broadcom Specifics at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[03:00] <ThunderStruck> one of those
[03:00] <saara> hello. i have a very serious problem with ubuntu install.
[03:00] <crogue5> thanks
[03:00] <saara> extra kernels do not show up on a grub
[03:00] <soundray> TRoGDoR5050: normally, the module ndiswrapper.ko comes with the kernel. It should be in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper . If it's not, you've got a strange installation. Is it breezy or dapper?
[03:00] <Jawbreaker27> Samus_Aran: tetris... :) that would be worth the trouble alone.  off to try again, thanks.
[03:00] <Samus_Aran> Jawbreaker27: yeah, I don't know much about SLI myself.  but if it is easy to take out, perhaps try
[03:00] <[Nige] > MikeyMike, there is a good howto here : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[03:00] <nothingman> hi, all
[03:00] <Samus_Aran> Jawbreaker27: the Ubuntu installer is really nice, working from a fully functional LiveCD
[03:00] <zcat[1] > no frozen bubble on the live cd?
[03:01] <Samus_Aran> oops they're gone.
[03:01] <TRoGDoR5050> soundray:Dapper.
[03:01] <Samus_Aran> Frozen Bubble drove me crazy, way too easy
[03:01] <MikeyMike> ok i will read from there
[03:01] <Tommy2k4> should ubuntu not warn you if you get low on hdd space?
[03:01] <Samus_Aran> I could beat Puzzle Bobble in the arcade on one quarter, so Frozen Bubble was painfully easy.  played it for over an hour then gave up and never loaded it again
[03:01] <zcat[1] > Fish Fillets is cool.. discovered it this morning.
[03:01] <nothingman> been having the same trouble with my Xinerama machine for several weeks: the s3virge cards don't work, giving a "Requesting insufficient memory window!" error when I start X
[03:01] <Samus_Aran> what is Fish Fillets ?
[03:02] <nothingman> all I can get to work is my intel integrated chip, by commenting out those cards
[03:02] <zcat[1] > puzzle game like (sokoban)?
[03:02] <nothingman> no one's offered help, and Google and the forums are devoid of info
[03:02] <zcat[1] > two fish have to push objects around to move through a maze/room
[03:02] <nothingman> even commenting out one doesn't help
[03:03] <zcat[1] > they're smartass fish too :)
[03:03] <nalioth> !offtopic
[03:03] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[03:04] <nothingman> this is all since upgrading to Dapper
[03:04] <lotwook> !XGL
[03:04] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[03:05] <nothingman> and X.org 7.0, of course
[03:05] <Samus_Aran> I wonder if XGL would work on top of a Multiseat Xorg setup
[03:05] <zcat[1] > Samus_Aran: not really.
[03:05] <DBO> Samus_Aran, yes
[03:05] <lotwook> I'm looking to remove the wobbly effect of XGL. can anyone help?
[03:05] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: <IP_ADDRESS> port 10051 this time, still can't get through to your IRC client
[03:05] <soundray> TRoGDoR5050: I wonder if your kernel install is incomplete for some reason. Have you upgraded to 2.6.15-26 yet?
[03:05] <DBO> lotwook, sure
[03:06] <zcat[1] > I have the first screen xgl and everything else xorg. smart compiz.sh script that checks and only loads compiz if it's in xgl.
[03:06] <nothingman> I never had this problem with Breezy, and everyone running an s3 or s3virge driver seems to be doing OK for the most part
[03:06] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Then I'll do it the "hard" way. Per-port configuration! Argh! :-)
[03:06] <DBO> lotwook, go into gconf-editor, apps -> compiz -> general -> whateverfolder -> options... in the first key is a list of plugins, remove wobbly from that list
[03:06] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: are you sure you forwarded TCP ports 10050-10051 ?
[03:06] <TRoGDoR5050> soundray: I've done nothing... I have no internet connection.  Is there a way I could download ndiswrapper.ko?
[03:06] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: for DCC's, it requires one port per DCC connection (DCC Chats, DCC Sends), so for the moment one is fine
[03:07] <zcat[1] > lotwook: gconf-editor is the hardway. there's an easier tool but the name escapes me :)
[03:07] <soundray> TRoGDoR5050: what architecture are you on?
[03:07] <lotwook> guess I dont have gconf-editor
[03:07] <DBO> zcat[1] , gset-compiz
[03:07] <TRoGDoR5050> soundray:x86
[03:07] <DBO> lotwook, are you a KDE user?
[03:07] <zcat[1] > thanks dbo :)
[03:07] <lotwook> no gnome
[03:07] <DBO> lotwook, run gconf-editor from a terminal
[03:07] <lotwook> In fact I dont have apps -> compiz
[03:07] <Samus_Aran> DBO: have you run XGL on a multiseat setup ?  I'm a bit worried about stability, the nVIDIA drivers aren't particularly stable as it is on multiseat, heh
[03:08] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: I used the "Applications" feature which lets you forward a range of ports. But, that's not always been reliable for me. This time, I'll do an explicit port forward.
[03:08] <DBO> Samus_Aran, its not stable, but neither is a normal multiseat
[03:08] <soundray> TRoGDoR5050: did you install a pre-release version of dapper?
[03:08] <TRoGDoR5050> soundray:Nope, I used my CDs that came in the mail from Shipit
[03:08] <DBO> lotwook, the path (apps -> compiz blah blah) is inside gconf-editor
[03:08] <Samus_Aran> DBO: actually, the biggest annoyance I've found so far is if I run VMware fullscreen from one of the seats, the other one turns off .. and if you change the video mode on it, it wakes up again, but keeps turning off from then on
[03:08] <lotwook> ok got it thanks.
[03:08] <Samus_Aran> DBO: some weird power management thing confusing multiseat
[03:08] <zcat[1] > Samus_Aran: the way I run it works fine.. only the first user to log in gets xgl. I tried more than one but it crashed immediately.
[03:08] <technel> If you have validates_format_of :username, :with => /[a-zA-Z0-9_] +/i, :message => 'may only contain alphanumerical characters and "_"' in a model, "with space" should NOT pass validation, should it?
[03:09] <DBO> Samus_Aran, it would be REALLY slow, but I have run something close enough to multiseat that I dont see why it wouldnt work
[03:09] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Yay! Hehe.
[03:09] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: I had that same problem on my sister's firewall, actually.  port ranges did nothing, individual ports worked
[03:09] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: DCC received file xorg.conf [5kB]  from Lighty in 00:00:00 [4.04kB/s]
[03:09] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: good stuff =p
[03:09] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: will take a look now
[03:09] <nothingman> also, it takes a long time before I'm able to log in via SSH, even if gdm comes up
[03:10] <nothingman> and my hard drive's constantly being accessed
[03:10] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: Thanks. I'll finish adding other ports while you do that.
[03:10] <technel> wow, wrong channel, sorry
[03:10] <zcat[1] > BTW; xgl/compiz totally breaks the inbuilt vnc remote desktop
[03:10] <agwibowo> hello..... i was wondering how to edit the menu that popups when i right click on desktop... i want to add an entry "open terminal"
[03:10] <DBO> zcat[1] , you need to give it a env variable to get rid of that washed out look
[03:10] <DBO> zcat[1] , or are you talking about using VNC server
[03:10] <soundray> TRoGDoR5050: I suggest you boot into ubuntu again and do a 'dpkg -l linux-image*' to find out which kernel version you have available. Then do a 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-2.6.15-22-i386', replacing the version as appropriate to reinstall the kernel.
[03:10] <lotwook> sweet wobbly gone. Thanks DBO
[03:10] <filemover> Im having a problem yesterday i tired to set the permissions on some folders I had transfered from a CD using the terminal to a directory I created called My music anyway the upshot of the situation is that after using chown to change ownership my whole installation went haywire and now i cant boot into the system because there are not enough permisions to start it
[03:10] <zcat[1] > vnc server. Completely fails to start under compiz
[03:11] <TRoGDoR5050> soundray:Will that install ndiswrapper.ko as well?
[03:11] <Samus_Aran> DBO: my :0 seat is running on a Geforce FX5700LE 128MB DDR SDRAM AGP 8x and the seat :1 is running on a Geforce MX-4000 64MB DDR SDRAM PCI card
[03:11] <filemover> can anyone help
[03:11] <DBO> zcat[1] , try freenx instead, I have never tried to VNC to Xgl, but I imagine you wouldnt have much luck
[03:11] <Samus_Aran> DBO: so in theory they could both handle it, I can run 3D apps on both ... though if I do that, it tends to slow to a crawl.  I am so looking forward to getting a dual-core Athlon 64 in the future
[03:12] <Samus_Aran> I'm on an Athlon XP 3000+ at the moment
[03:12] <DBO> Samus_Aran, thats my general experience, it would be too processor intensive
[03:12] <zcat[1] > It''s really easy in a vanilla login, there's a remote desktop menu option. swich it on, use VNC from elsewhere.
[03:12] <zcat[1] > it shares the desktop windows-vnc-style
[03:12] <soundray> TRoGDoR5050: if it still doesn't find the module after that, it might help to force it with 'sudo insmod /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko'.
[03:12] <soundray> TRoGDoR5050: note any error messages to that command and paste them on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for people here to review.
[03:12] <DBO> zcat[1] , the arch of Xgl provides an extra layer of complexity, Im not sure that will work too well
[03:12] <soundray> TRoGDoR5050: it normally would.
[03:12] <Samus_Aran> DBO: one real problem I've found with Ubuntu and multiseat is that if I use the K7 kernel, when one person moves the mouse, it almost stops the other desktop
[03:12] <TRoGDoR5050> Alright, thanks!
[03:13] <kazukisan> -> i installed the latest FGLRX Drivers with the downloaded ati installer and then i edited xorg.conf to use the fglrx driver, x starts fine with it but direct rendering is no ?? any help on getting direct rendering working ???
[03:13] <filemover> Im having a problem yesterday i tired to set the permissions on some folders I had transfered from a CD using the terminal to a directory I created called My music anyway the upshot of the situation is that after using chown to change ownership my whole installation went haywire and now i cant boot into the system because there are not enough permisions to start it
[03:13] <Samus_Aran> DBO: I am presently downgraded to the stock i386 kernel, as it isn't using the preempt options
[03:13] <Samus_Aran> DBO: or whatever it is that is causing it
[03:13] <spoil> any chance someone here has some experience with intel hub?
[03:13] <zcat[1] > DBO: yeah, I found that oht the other day. It works on a regular login but compiz totally kills it.
[03:13] <Samus_Aran> DBO: I assume it is the preemption
[03:13] <Samus_Aran> spoil: what in particular ?
[03:13] <dracflamloc> hi there windows overwrote my grub boot sector. using the bootcd how can i reinstall it? i used rescue, and chose the right partition, but when i run "grub" it says bterm is not there
[03:14] <spoil> the ip of the admin panel :)
[03:14] <soundray> !grub
[03:14] <DBO> Samus_Aran, I have no idea what would cause that
[03:14] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:14] <soundray> dracflamloc: ^^
[03:14] <dracflamloc> =)
[03:14] <dracflamloc> hda1 isnt found?
[03:14] <Samus_Aran> DBO: also, I can't for the life of me get GDM to work multiseat.  I get the login screens on both desktops fine, but when I log in, it always tells me it can't load the window manager, falling back to the terminal
[03:15] <Samus_Aran> DBO: and once in that terminal, I can load KDE or ICEWM or whatever.  it's quite fishy
[03:15] <Samus_Aran> DBO: without multiseat, GDM works as expected
[03:15] <Samus_Aran> DBO: so currently I have a script to launch multiseat which I run from TTY1 as root
[03:16] <spoil> Samus_Aran, you know the ip of the hub?
[03:16] <dracflamloc> um
[03:16] <dracflamloc> i dont have any hdxx in /dev using rescue....
[03:16] <filemover> Im having a problem yesterday i tired to set the permissions on some folders I had transfered from a CD using the terminal to a directory I created called My music anyway the upshot of the situation is that after using chown to change ownership my whole installation went haywire and now i cant boot into the system because there are not enough permisions to start it
[03:16] <spoil> i searched google for 30 mins, and nothing there :\
[03:17] <Samus_Aran> anyone know how to use apt-file to find "etc/init.d/postfix" ?
[03:17] <DBO> apt-file update, apt-file search /etc/init.d/postfix
[03:17] <Samus_Aran> spoil: hubs just pass the connections directly through, to all ethernet cables, they have no IP themselves.  if you mean a router, then it will have an IP
[03:18] <dracflamloc> can any one help? for some reason i cant just do the grub-install /dev/hda because it sys there is no /dev/hda
[03:18] <bikini> i just booted into ubuntu again.. how do i make sure my system will boot to my linux partition, instead of the windows partition?
[03:18] <Samus_Aran> DBO: thank you.  I'd never heard of apt-file before today.  it looks useful
[03:18] <filemover> can someone help me please
[03:19] <Samus_Aran> filemover: you apparently chmod'ed over part of your system, which is almost as bad as erasing all the files on the system
[03:19] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: I hadn't heard of apt-file either and I've been using Ubuntu for a year and a half. :-)
[03:19] <filemover> yeah i gathered that :(
[03:20] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: heh.  I've been using Ubuntu for about a month now.  years ago I used Debian at work for around 2 years
[03:20] <filemover> so what do i do a reinstall
[03:20] <Jawbreaker27> does anyone know if there is an easy way for me to preload nvidia drivers into the installation for ubuntu?  i'm having a hell of a time getting the graphical installer to display properly :(
[03:20] <Samus_Aran> filemover: I think Ubuntu supports an upgrade install, where it will install over the current one.  if it does, then that would probably fix the files that got repermissioned, but there's no guarantee.  it really depends on what was changed
[03:21] <a2xm> hi all, pls help. since I installed 6.06 I can't use my DVDROM, but my CDRW is OK. what might be happened?
[03:21] <filemover> ok
[03:21] <Samus_Aran> filemover: I would boot in on the Live CD, check out the partition to see what happened to the files
[03:21] <filemover> ok
[03:21] <NthDegree> dracflamloc try /dev/sda if /dev/hda doesn't exist
[03:21] <filemover> what should i be loooking for
[03:21] <Samus_Aran> filemover: do you know what the specific error is it gives you when it boots ?
[03:21] <filemover> yes
[03:21] <filemover> i do
[03:21] <dracflamloc> NthDegree, no luck. i know its hda. i type df and it lists it
[03:22] <Samus_Aran> filemover: what is it ?
[03:22] <dracflamloc> but if i ls /dev it isnt there
[03:22] <krism> anyone know how to change xemacs menubar font? ideally i'd just like to get RID of the stinking menu
[03:23] <filemover> libgnomevfs-Warning  **: Unable to create ~/. gnome2 directory: Permission denied
[03:23] <filemover> there are a couple of other warning on the same lines
[03:23] <dracflamloc> does nobody knwo wtf is going on here? =(
[03:23] <NthDegree> you using the gpt partition table type?
[03:23] <dracflamloc> ext3
[03:24] <dracflamloc> on a 100gb laptop ide drive
[03:24] <NthDegree> no i mean the partition table
[03:24] <Dark_Knight_209> anyone know about setting up  dual monitors?
[03:24] <dracflamloc> dunno, its using whatever is default for ubuntu
[03:24] <Samus_Aran> filemover: okay, so it looks like you just changed permissions on your own users files
[03:24] <NthDegree> ok that'll be msdos more than likely
[03:24] <filemover> yep
[03:24] <filemover> :(
[03:25] <NthDegree> try grub-install (hd0)
[03:25] <filemover> ive tried to change them back using failsafe but its no good
[03:25] <dracflamloc> fdisk -l says 'cannot open /proc/partitions'
[03:25] <bikini_> whats the command to re install grub?
[03:25] <NthDegree> grub-install
[03:25] <dracflamloc> 'unexpected syntax error near 'hd0'
[03:25] <NthDegree> hmmmmm
[03:25] <bikini_> NthDegree: what after that?
[03:25] <NthDegree> it can't find hd0 either then
[03:25] <Samus_Aran> filemover: use the Live CD to boot, and then load up the hard drive where your home directory is, and then change the permissions recursively on it so that your user has write permission on everything
[03:26] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: I just did what DBO suggested for you and it identified the /etc/init.d/postfix file as being *in* the postfix package.
[03:26] <bikini_> install device?
[03:26] <filemover> ok
[03:26] <bikini_> like.. hd0?
[03:26] <NthDegree> bikini normally it would either be /dev/sda or /dev/hda
[03:26] <filemover> what command do i use chown
[03:26] <interfear> VLC or Mplayer?
[03:26] <filemover> or chmod
[03:26] <dracflamloc> df shows /dev/hda1 as mounted on /
[03:26] <dracflamloc> (this is using the 5.10 rescue cd mode)
[03:26] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: when I try to install postfix, it informs me that /etc/init.d/postfix does not exist, and stops
[03:27] <Samus_Aran> Lighty: and yes, I got the same search results from apt-file  =/
[03:27] <NthDegree> try grub-install /dev/hda1 then
[03:27] <Lichte> hello, I'm trying to install from the livecd, can someone help ?
[03:27] <NthDegree> you can install to partition superblock as opposed to all loaded in mbr
[03:27] <Warbo> Lichte: What is the problem?
[03:27] <Lichte> how do I get the intaller to leave hdb alone ?
[03:27] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: I haven't answered yes, yet, but it's wanting to install several packages for me when I try to apt-get postfix.
[03:27] <Lichte> I'm installing to hda
[03:28] <NthDegree> Lichte, manually do the partitioning
[03:28] <Warbo> Lichte: Set up the partitions manually, then just don't tell it to use hdb
[03:28] <dracflamloc> NthDegree, nope, it says 'not found'
[03:28] <Lichte> that doesn't work
[03:28] <Lighty> Samus_Aran: It also wants to remove hula-manager.
[03:28] <DBO> Lighty, what are you needing to accomplish?
[03:28] <NthDegree> it does
[03:28] <Lichte> it keeps popping up an error message about /dev/hdb2
[03:28] <Warbo> Lichte: What is it trying to do to hdb?
[03:28] <Lichte> NthDegree: no, it doesn't
[03:28] <Lichte> Warbo: that's what I'd like to know
[03:28] <Ignite__> Lichte, whats the error?
[03:28] <Warbo> Lichte: OK, so it is not putting / on there or anything then
[03:29] <dracflamloc> NthDegree, i knwo it does, but i'm telling you it says it doesnt, plus in /dev/ it isnt listed =((
[03:29] <Lichte> Ignite__: something about a ext2 error
[03:29] <Lighty> DBO: I don't need anything with postfix, that's Samus_Aran's thing. He's looking at my xorg.conf for me to see why I can't change resolutions. While he's doing that, I thought I'd look ath the problem he's having.
[03:29] <NthDegree> Lichte, you want manually edit the partition table then set the /dev/hdb2 to "do not use this partition" then it will have no errors (hopefully)
[03:29] <Ignite__> Lichte, sounds like its trying to format it, so its been told to use it