[00:00] <bluecrow> tha was easy, didn't need to do anything. at all, just install it.
[00:00] <silverarrow> anyone with usb wireless that doesn`t work very well?
[00:00] <zykotick9> bluecrow: see "/msg ubottu pm" for why that isn't so cool.  i'm one of those people that consider it rude ;)
[00:00] <bluecrow> i have usb wireless, its great here. silverarrow lol
[00:01] <zykotick9> bluecrow: installing a service should both start it, and add it to default boot.
[00:01] <tryingUbuntu> Little help please.. obviously my internet connection is fine but update manager tells me to check it??             http://pastebin.com/2YVkAqTY
[00:01] <bluecrow> okay.
[00:02] <silverarrow> bluecrow: yeah, I am having trouble with two, RTL8187, driver issues I think, because they work fine in windows
[00:03] <tryingUbuntu> a little more information...     failed to download repository information         http://pastebin.com/2YVkAqTY
[00:03] <harrismrubin_> how do i install python
[00:03] <ledah> how do i share files between two kubuntu machines???
[00:04] <zykotick9> !info python | harrismrubin_ it already should be installed?
[00:04] <harrismrubin_> how do i find it then
[00:04] <tryingUbuntu> harrismrubin   use software center     put python in the search field and install
[00:04] <zykotick9> harrismrubin_: "whereis python" in a terminal
[00:05] <zykotick9> tryingUbuntu: python isn't an optional package, it should already be there.
[00:05] <harrismrubin_> how do i open the app
[00:05] <Masterplan_> hi
[00:05] <Masterplan_> I am new to Ubuntu
[00:06] <harrismrubin_> Masterplan,  you will love it
[00:06] <ghost88> ^_^
[00:06] <harrismrubin_> masterplan ps
[00:06] <harrismrubin_> zykotick9,  how do i open python
[00:06] <OerHeks> harrismrubin_, python <name.py>
[00:06] <zykotick9> harrismrubin_: type "python"
[00:06] <tryingUbuntu> Sorry, i got disconnected somehow...   any help for the updating issue.. telling me to check my internet connectionn when updating.     http://pastebin.com/2YVkAqTY
[00:07] <harrismrubin_> harrismrubin@harrismrubin-HP-Pavilion-dv6000-RP296UA-ABA:~$ python
[00:07] <harrismrubin_> Python 2.7.3 (default, Aug  1 2012, 05:16:07)
[00:07] <harrismrubin_> [GCC 4.6.3] on linux2
[00:07] <harrismrubin_> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
[00:07] <harrismrubin_> >>>
[00:07] <FloodBot1> harrismrubin_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:07] <Masterplan> thanks guys
[00:07] <terminhell> oh hai
[00:07] <zykotick9> harrismrubin_: that's python have fun.  see "/msg ubottu paste" before pasting anything into the channel again.
[00:08] <harrismrubin_> how do i type code
[00:08] <harrismrubin_> in it
[00:08] <tryingUbuntu> harrismrubin    open a terminal and type      man python
[00:08] <eGeeked> having problems
[00:08] <Masterplan> I am having trouble with the built in wireless adapter
[00:08] <Masterplan> it wont activate
[00:08] <Masterplan> :(
[00:08] <eGeeked> Ubuntu won't recognize 3 hdd in my server
[00:08] <eGeeked> BIOS maybe?
[00:09] <Masterplan> its an Intel Wireless Pro 2200BG
[00:09] <Masterplan> the bios has the device activeted
[00:09] <tryingUbuntu> harrismrubin    I think I would ask google that question..   maybe google      coding in linux terminal and watch a few videos
[00:10] <harrismrubin_> Masterplan,  run lspci | grep Network in terminal
[00:10] <eGeeked> any suggestions on how my BIOS should look for these HDD's I have a BIOStar mobo
[00:11] <harrismrubin_> i need to get python to write code
[00:11] <zykotick9> harrismrubin_: sidenote i find giving all grep instructions with -i "case INsensitive" cuts down on issues, where people don't know the N is essential.
[00:11] <eGeeked> Can someone helkp me with a HDD problem? Greatly appreciated
[00:11] <OerHeks> eGeekend check if the HDD's really are invisible, run " sudo fdisk -L "  in terminal
[00:12] <harrismrubin_> how do i get python code
[00:12] <eGeeked> I did
[00:12] <eGeeked> they dont show
[00:12] <eGeeked> I used lowercase L though
[00:12] <eGeeked> but also tried 3 other ways
[00:12] <OerHeks> correct, -l
[00:12] <wilee-nilee> !enter > eGeeked
[00:12] <eGeeked> My apologies
[00:13] <OerHeks> eGeeked, did you install them yourself ?
[00:13] <harrismrubin_> who uses python here to write code
[00:14] <eGeeked> OerHeks, I just converted my windows server to linux
[00:14] <Crowey> can someone help me I keep getting the error Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) when I install ubuntu
[00:14] <Hatori> egeeked, are you using raid?
[00:14] <zykotick9> harrismrubin_: we have establish you have python installed.  thus the ubuntu end of support is over.  try using alis ("/msg ubottu alis for deatils) to find a python channel.
[00:15] <Hatori> crowey, what disk type are you using ? Sata ? Raid?
[00:15] <eGeeked> This is my media server, I was tired of the bulky Windows. I have 1 boot SSD (works fine) and 3 2 TB HDD not in RAID
[00:15] <eGeeked> SATA
[00:15] <harrismrubin_> i need to open python to write code
[00:15] <Crowey> sata I believe
[00:15] <OerHeks> eGeeked, does Gparted see them?
[00:15] <eGeeked> What is that?
[00:16] <OerHeks> gnome gui for parted
[00:16] <eGeeked> When I ran the installer the only drive visible was the SSD
[00:16] <Hatori> egeekend, i think shouldn't be the problems, linux works well with sata devices
[00:16] <eGeeked> I couldn't find the drives at all when going through gnome
[00:16] <harrismrubin_> open python to write code
[00:16] <OerHeks> eGeeked, you started about the bios, check if the controller is off raid
[00:17] <zykotick9> Hatori: depends if that SATA is connected to fake-RAID ;)
[00:17] <eGeeked> Raid is not on
[00:17] <Crowey> I try installing from a  disk or usb and i keep getting the same error even if I choose to try it before installing
[00:17] <eGeeked> It was originally - then I reformatted and removed. but that was months ago
[00:17] <zykotick9> eGeeked: jbod?
[00:17] <reineskye25_> can someone help me? im experiencing color problems after installing ubuntu in my sony vaio laptop
[00:18] <reineskye25_> the color/background light is bluish,
[00:18] <Hatori> zykotick9, thats special case i think :d
[00:18] <eGeeked> I also tried turning off dmraid but it stated no raids found
[00:18] <eGeeked> I am booting back up now - leaving BIOS
[00:18] <zykotick9> Hatori: i believe these drives probably are still wooked up to some MB RAID setup.  good luck.
[00:19] <OerHeks> oke, then Gparted should see 2 tb discs
[00:19] <reineskye25_> someone knows a solution for my problem?? can someone help me? im experiencing color problems after installing ubuntu in my sony vaio laptop the color/background light is bluish,
[00:19] <Crowey> can someone help me I keep getting the error Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) when I try to boot to ubuntu
[00:19] <harrismrubin_> print "hello"
[00:19] <zykotick9> reineskye25_: bluish always, or in online video?
[00:19] <eGeeked> I am new to linux - jbod?
[00:19] <harrismrubin_> how do i get Python Programming with IDLE
[00:20] <eGeeked> I will check that OerHeks
[00:20] <reineskye25_> zykotick9: always sir. it really hurts my eyes
[00:20] <zykotick9> eGeeked: raid term for "Just a Bunch Of Disks"
[00:20] <zykotick9> reineskye25_: no idea, good luck.
[00:20] <eGeeked> I understand that
[00:20] <eGeeked> I work in IT just not a lot with Linux
[00:21] <eGeeked> Got ya - had to reread :) thanks
[00:21] <eGeeked> How do I run gparted I am not finding it
[00:22] <eGeeked> had to  install nvm
[00:22] <Crowey> can someone help me I keep getting the error Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) when I try to boot to ubuntu
[00:22] <eGeeked> gparted shows only the SSD
[00:23] <zykotick9> eGeeked: are your HDs connected to the SATA RAID connector on your MB or the regular SATA connectors?
[00:24] <eGeeked> They are connected to the regular connectors - I don't believe there was any special ones
[00:24] <Hatori> wkmg/
[00:25] <harrismrubin_> how do i make a program in python
[00:25] <zykotick9> eGeeked: are they larger then 2TB?
[00:25] <eGeeked> They are 2tb
[00:25] <zykotick9> eGeeked: umm, then fdisk might not show them, you need parted
[00:25] <zykotick9> eGeeked: i haven't broken the 2TB limit myself.
[00:26] <eGeeked> I am using gparted
[00:26] <eGeeked> But they don't show in there
[00:26] <zykotick9> eGeeked: good lcuk.  i'll be watching your issue with interest, but don't have anything to contribute.
[00:27] <eGeeked> :( ok thanks
[00:30] <foobArrr> I'm using an USB KVM switch, one of the connected PCs runs Ubuntu. Sometimes when I switch to the Ubuntu PC, keyboard and mouse don't respond and dmesg is flooded with this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1167055/    any ideas?
[00:31] <IDWMaster> Hi
[00:31] <ahmedipa> hi everybody
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> foobArrr: what does: status -71   mean?
[00:31] <ahmedipa> I have question regarding partition
[00:31] <IDWMaster> I'm having graphics driver issues with the Intel GMA3600
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: ask away
[00:31] <IDWMaster> I can't install the driver package from the repository
[00:31] <ahmedipa> I faced problem with low space
[00:32] <IDWMaster> Unmet dependencies
[00:32] <ahmedipa> as this screen shot
[00:32] <IDWMaster> cedarview-drm
[00:32] <ahmedipa> http://dc617.4shared.com/img/AknwOMej/s7/0.6561522075578229/low-disk-space.png
[00:32] <IDWMaster> xserver-xorg-core
[00:32] <IDWMaster> xorg-video-abi-11
[00:32] <ahmedipa> http://dc588.4shared.com/img/Lm8a_s_o/s3/0.11715805144359082/disk-usage-analyzer.png
[00:32] <IDWMaster> I'm running a 64-bit installation of Ubuntu 12.04
[00:33] <ahmedipa> I have installed                 gparted
[00:33] <ahmedipa> http://dc588.4shared.com/img/6K0IZW3R/s7/0.6463969188540438/gparted.png
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: did you try to clear space, especially by removing old kernels?
[00:33] <ahmedipa> I feel that partition become complex
[00:34] <ahmedipa> I think it should be 3 partition
[00:34] <ahmedipa> 1- for windows 7
[00:34] <ahmedipa> 2- for ubuntu
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: that looks like a right mess
[00:34] <ahmedipa> 3- for my files ( video - documents )
[00:34] <IDWMaster> Ah
[00:34] <IDWMaster> Seriously! No 64-bit driver!
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: plus you set 25Gb for / and 1.6Gb for /home
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: which is really ass about face
[00:35] <ahmedipa> ActionParsnip: I did not try to clear
[00:35] <IDWMaster> Is there any place to get 64-bit drivers?
[00:35] <ahmedipa> I don't want to lose any data any operation system
[00:35] <reuf> i have an image of 92x92px, and i need to resize it to 90x90px - how to with imagemagic?
[00:35] <IDWMaster> For the GMA3600
[00:35] <ahmedipa> either windows 7 or ubuntu
[00:35] <IDWMaster> I have a GMA3600 GPU and no drivers!
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: plus about 1.5Gb for nothing in between (sda6 and sda7)
[00:36] <IDWMaster> Drivers apparently only support 32-bit OSs
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> IDWMaster: will you please quit hammering enter after every 3rd word
[00:36] <ahmedipa> I got confuse regarding sdas
[00:36] <ActionParsnip> IDWMaster: it makes your question near-impossible to read
[00:36] <eGeeked> Just tried going back in to theinstaller to see if the other drives would show
[00:36] <eGeeked> I got nothing. This is pretty frustrating ha
[00:37] <ahmedipa> it is so diffrent from windows
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: I would reinstall the OS and get rid of all the Linux partitions and make fresh, you can keep sda9 if you want
[00:37] <ahmedipa> It should be ( C:  , D:  , E:   , F:   , G:  )
[00:37] <IDWMaster> My question is: How can I get 64-bit drivers for Ubuntu for the Intel GMA3600 chipset?
[00:37] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i'm very happy i didn't see ahmedipa's post and/or paste ;)  and "ass before face" i was trying to think of a police alternative, all i could think of was "cart infront of horse" but that's not good ;)
[00:37] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: its not hard, just different
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: back to front is mor pc
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: sda1 to sda4 will be primary partitions, if you need more you need an extended partition. You will then have what you have; 3 primary partitions (sda1 to 3) then sda4 is the extended. the higher numbers therin are the logical partitions)
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: nothing tricky
[00:39] <Crowey> can someone help me I keep getting the error Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) when I try to boot to ubuntu
[00:40] <ahmedipa> I think that you got full idea about my partitions
[00:40] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: yes, just baffled why you have sda6 and sda7   what are they for?
[00:41] <ahmedipa> because there are a lot of partition
[00:41] <deadmund> ha
[00:41] <ahmedipa> I just know that sda 2 ( for windows 7 )
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: ok but what are sda6 and sd7 for?
[00:42] <ahmedipa> why you have sda6 and sda7   what are they for? I don't know I don't remember
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: ok then I suggest you boot to liveCD and delete them, you can then resize your /home partition into the free space and get an extra 1.5Gb space
[00:43] <eGeeked> zyko! I got 1 of them to show!
[00:43] <eGeeked> NVM GOT THEM ALL
[00:43] <eGeeked> ha
[00:43] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: personally I'd jkust reinstall, deleteing all Linux partitions and installing with  1xRAM amount for swap and the rest for /.
[00:43] <ahmedipa> I know just  sda 2 for windows 7
[00:44] <ahmedipa> do you mean that u advice me to delete linux and install it again
[00:44] <IDWMaster> Hmm. The one thing Ubuntu needs is a bigger lobby at Intel and GPU companies.
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: you will also be able to use the 30Gb of space you have unallocated (no idea why)
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: basically its a mess
[00:44] <zykotick9> eGeeked: nice!  (see "/msg ubottu tab" for info on how to highlight me easily)
[00:45] <systems7> how do i add something to cron?
[00:45] <systems7> someone please help me?
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: obviously run a full backup of your /home partition to keep current settings etc
[00:45] <jrib> !cron | systems7
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> systems7: do you use a desktop UI?
[00:45] <acu> hey guys - how can I configure two different VGA cards (one made by ATI [built in MB] the other one is a NVIDIA - ?
[00:45] <Dandude159> im having a problem getting su
[00:45] <ahmedipa> sda3 this is for my files ( in windows called E://)
[00:46] <jrib> !sudo | Dandude159
[00:46] <systems7> yes i do
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: the windows partitions aren't interesting to us
[00:46] <Crowey> can someone help me I keep getting the error Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) when I try to boot to ubuntu
[00:46] <Dandude159> oh its su?
[00:46] <jrib> Dandude159: I don't know what you mean by "oh its su?"
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> systems7: you can use gnome-schedule as a GUI to cron, or run:  gksudo gnome-schedule    to cron as root
[00:46] <Dandude159> oh its not su excuse me
[00:46] <ahmedipa> I have windows 7 for many years
[00:46] <Dandude159> im used to androd
[00:46] <zykotick9> acu: fyi i've heard of issues trying to get 3d working on an ati and nvidia at the same time.  i guess there kerenel drivers don't co-operate very well (or at all).
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: again, not useful to the situation
[00:47] <systems7> i have to run this command 'sudo modprobe b43' every time i boot up to get my wireless working
[00:47] <Dandude159> so lets say i want to do the usb boot of chrome os
[00:47] <systems7> how do i add this to cron?
[00:47] <Hatori> system7, add it to /etc/modules
[00:47] <systems7> what would i have to type in terminal
[00:47] <systems7> hatori
[00:47] <systems7> how
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: you made an extended partition but you made all kinds of dumb partitions for random things and hav e a real mess
[00:47] <ahmedipa> and I have installed ubuntu to use it instead of windows in future
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: do you use the sda9 NTFS partition for anything?
[00:48] <systems7> how do i add something to /etc/modules/?
[00:48] <ahmedipa> no it is empty partition
[00:48] <Hatori> system7, are you familiar with issuing command in terminal?
[00:48] <zykotick9> systems7: see systems7 answer for sure.  don't use cron for that.
[00:48] <deadmund> systems7: you open the file and write what you want in there.  It's just text.
[00:48] <systems7> no
[00:48] <ahmedipa> can I extend partition to marge sda9
[00:48] <Hatori> system7, :d
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: then this is really easy, delete all partitions from sda5 and up in liveCD then install to the freed space. You will have a lot more freedom
[00:48] <Hatori> !cli
[00:49] <rmiller90> Um, I have no idea how this works but I'm trying to boot Ubuntu 64 bit .iso off a flash drive and I my comp hangs up about here: http://i.imgur.com/nWjQo.jpg
[00:49] <zykotick9> systems7: sorry see Hatori answer ;)  my bad.  sorry Hatori.
[00:49] <ahmedipa> aha
[00:49] <Hatori> !cli | system7
[00:49] <eGeeked> zyko Do I have to format them to mount them?
[00:49] <systems7> !cli
[00:49] <systems7> can i edit modules with nano?
[00:49] <Hatori> zykotick9, no problemo :d
[00:49] <systems7> and add the line in there?
[00:49] <ahmedipa> may you give me special video to learn me how to install in best way and how to delete it in best way
[00:49]  * `Nano_ hides
[00:49] <deadmund> systems7: sure
[00:50] <ahmedipa> ??
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> systems7: sure, or use:  echo modulename | sudo tee -a /etc/modules > /dev/null
[00:50] <rmiller90> anyone?
[00:50] <zykotick9> eGeeked: are you talking to me?  if so, use TAB key to get my nick right.  it will highlight me then.
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: use gparted in liveCD and you can delete them there, no need for a video for that
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: the partitions have keys next to them as they are mounted and in use, the liveCD will free up the partitions
[00:51] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: errors to /dev/null nice ;)
[00:51] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: actually, that's output?!?
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: tee outputs to the stdout as well as the file, its just neater
[00:51] <systems7> lemme restart and see if it works
[00:51] <rmiller90> srsly who should i ask about this particular issue?
[00:51] <systems7> thanks action parsnip and hatori im gonna tset it snow
[00:52] <rmiller90> annnyone is this clusterfuck want to take a shot at this?
[00:52] <ahmedipa> ActionParsnip: I have already installed gparted
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: once you remove the partitions, run the installer
[00:52] <jrib> rmiller90: please mind your language
[00:52] <rmiller90> *ok face*
[00:52] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: nice.  tee is something i know "almost" nothing about, excupt when you want sudo redirection you NEED to use it ;)
[00:52] <dr_willis> rmiller90:  how did you make the usb? did you verify the iso file's md5sum?
[00:53] <eGeeked> zykotick9 do I have to reformat the drives to get them to mount?
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: installed gparted in the liveCD desktop?
[00:53] <zykotick9> eGeeked: nice ;)
[00:53] <dr_willis> eGeeked:  a partion needs to have a formated filesystem in order to have a filesystem to mount...
[00:53] <ahmedipa> I installed it by terminal
[00:53] <rmiller90> holddr_willis i used a program hold on
[00:53] <zykotick9> eGeeked: do you have data on there that you "care about"?
[00:53] <eGeeked> zykotick9 I will get there
[00:53] <systems7> it worked guys!
[00:53] <systems7> thanks so much1
[00:53] <rmiller90> Universal USB Installer
[00:53] <eGeeked> zykotick9 yes - It is my media server I have 400 some movies currently loaded
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: tee will put the text in the file on it's own (similar to >)  tee -a adds to the file, like >>
[00:54] <systems7> i did the command line that action told me to add it to the modules
[00:54] <systems7> thanks guys
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: yes, but in the liveCD desktop?
[00:54] <dr_willis> rmiller90:   did you verify the iso file's md5sum?
[00:54] <zykotick9> eGeeked: then i'm out.  good luck.  i don't want to lead you astray!
[00:54] <eGeeked> zykotick9 HA
[00:54] <rmiller90> I'm a newb. I have no idea what that means
[00:54] <ahmedipa> what do you mean by live cd
[00:54] <ahmedipa> I don't have CD
[00:54] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i know what tee is.  i've just never come across a "use case" myself ;)  thanks man!
[00:54] <rmiller90> =/
[00:54] <ahmedipa> I have usb flash to install ubuntu
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: the CD (or USB) you boot to to install the OS.
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: ahh, its because sudo doesn't rraverse redirection. I use it a lot
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: then you will need to use that. Make sure you backup what you need first before you start
[00:55] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i loved the timing of my pm vs your public statement ;) hilarious
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: zing
[00:56] <ahmedipa> note// I installed ubuntu on sda5
[00:56] <ahmedipa> and I got surprise why there are many partition
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: doesn't matter, its all going to go.
[00:56] <dr_willis> !md5 > rmiller90
[00:57] <ahmedipa> as I understand that I have first using gparted to delete for example
 ok. also am i doin the taggy thingy right?
[00:57] <rmiller90> oh god i'm such a newb
[00:57] <ahmedipa> sda7
[00:57] <ahmedipa> and sda 6
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> ahmedipa: 5, 6, 7, 8 and 9
[01:02] <eGeeked> zykotick9 that plan is to boot from disk - run live - attempt to copy files over to 1 drive - format the others -move data back and format last drive
[01:03] <xubuntu> Hi
[01:03] <xubuntu> hello there =
[01:03] <Guest82312> hey guyys
[01:03] <Guest82312> helo ?
[01:04] <Guest82312> im installing xubuntu
[01:05] <arkanabar> well, I just upgraded from ATI 4670 to nVidia GT 630.  I'd uninstalled fglrx w/ Jockey, same way I'd installed it, but Jockey can't find any drivers for the new card.
[01:07] <zykotick9> eGeeked: are you now 100% sure, you can format the drives in ubuntu without issue?  be sure you have a backup of data (confirmed working) before you start.  i'm not a master at hd/partition detection anymore - did you get better advise from someone else-if so i'd recommend it?!  good luck man.
[01:08] <dr_willis> I find its worth  it to keep your hard drive partioning schemes as simple as possible. ;)
[01:08] <eGeeked> zykotick9 google
[01:09] <eGeeked> zykotick9 I just rebooted without doing anything and it mounted the drives - Its a Christmas miracle
[01:10] <zykotick9> eGeeked: nice.
[01:11] <tanath> anyone know why ubuntu would be slower than xp?
[01:11] <ActionParsnip> tanath: config
[01:12] <tanath> ActionParsnip, elaborate?
[01:12] <arkanabar> any ideas, anyone?
[01:12] <ActionParsnip> tanath: the configuration of each OS wuill directly affect performance
[01:12] <yekoms> tanath, explain slower.
[01:12] <yekoms> tanath, disable ALL eye candy and reload X and see if it improves.
[01:12] <tanath> linux was horribly laggy at times. xp not
[01:12] <yekoms> you prob hit a load spike.
[01:13] <tanath> it's frequent though, and always slow
[01:13] <yekoms> how old is this computer?
[01:13] <tanath> like added a list of wallpapers to xfce list and it lagged for a couple mins
[01:13] <tanath> yekoms, it's an old comp. p4, 1gb ram
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> tanath: what video chip do you use?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> tanath: what CPU do you use?
[01:14] <ActionParsnip> tanath: how much RAM does the system have?
[01:14] <tanath> ActionParsnip, <tanath> yekoms, it's an old comp. p4, 1gb ram
[01:14] <tanath> not sure which vid card was in it
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> tanath: if you run: lspci | grep -i vga    you will see
[01:15] <tanath> it's a roommate's comp, so i don't have access to it right now. just curious if this is typical really
[01:15] <eGeeked> How can I tell if a program is running?
[01:15] <ActionParsnip> eGeeked: ps -ef | grep name
[01:16] <yekoms> what is -e?
[01:16] <tanath> i alias 'ps -ef | grep' to psg
[01:16] <tanath> yekoms, man ps
[01:16] <tanath>  / to search
[01:17] <yekoms> i use ps ax|grep name
[01:17] <arkanabar> just uninstalled fglrx & amdcccle, then swapped Radeon 4670 out for EVGA nVidia GT 630.  Purged ATI drivers per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/VideoDriverDetection?action=show&redirect=X%2FTroubleshooting%2FFglrxInteferesWithRadeonDriver#Problem:%20%20Need%20to%20fully%20remove%20-fglrx%20and%20reinstall%20-ati%20from%20scratch -- can't install nVidia drivers.
[01:17] <yekoms> or pgrep name
[01:17] <eGeeked> Thank you much
[01:17] <tanath> yekoms, that syntax is deprecated, iirc
[01:17] <yekoms> uhm, i dont see how -a = all.
[01:18] <yekoms> ps x|grep name incase you dont want -all
[01:18] <tanath> er, sorry, it's bsd syntax for compatibility
[01:18] <yekoms> it works on bsd or linux.
[01:18] <BarkingFish> Morning guys - have you seen the news from adobe? We're losing access to Adobe Flashplayer, apparently.
[01:18] <tanath>        -a     Select all processes except both session leaders (see getsid(2)) and processes not associated with a terminal.
[01:18] <yekoms> is that any different then ALL ?
[01:18] <eGeeked> Thanks yekoms
[01:19] <yekoms> welcome eGeeked
[01:19] <tanath>        -A     Select all processes.  Identical to -e.
[01:19] <BarkingFish> This message is plastered up on adobe's website:  "NOTE: Adobe Flash Player 11.2 will be the last version to target Linux as a supported platform. Adobe will continue to provide security backports to Flash Player 11.2 for Linux."
[01:19] <yekoms> black@blackness:~/eggdrop$ ps xA
[01:19] <yekoms> ERROR: Unsupported option (BSD syntax)
[01:19] <yekoms> tanath, what manpage are you reading?
[01:19] <tanath> yekoms, ps
[01:19] <yekoms> not on ubuntu.
[01:19] <yekoms> i dont have -A
[01:19] <tanath> i'm on arch
[01:20] <tanath> you sure? search?
[01:20] <yekoms> omg, i cant believe A requires -
[01:20] <yekoms> has to be done ps -A x, not ps Ax
[01:20] <yekoms> tanath, ps --help|grep "-A" is what i did.
[01:20] <yekoms> much faster then man ps, / search
[01:21] <tanath> yekoms, --help is often different from man page
[01:21] <yekoms> i really dont feel like writing the create section of my openvz eggdrop.
[01:21] <tanath> yekoms, not for me. and once you're in man page it's easier to navigate for other things
[01:21] <yekoms> help is the embedded manpage.
[01:21] <Shay> some here linux developer ?
[01:21] <tanath> yekoms, no
[01:21] <arkanabar> Am I better off reinstalling in order to get the right video drivers to install?
[01:21] <yekoms> we all develop ;P
[01:22] <Shay> I looking for someone who is developer of Canonical
[01:22] <tanath> arkanabar, did you specifiy why you can't?
[01:22] <deadmund> Shay: they don't hang out in here
[01:23] <Shay> @deadmund where can I find them ?
[01:23] <arkanabar> I uninstalled fglrx, pulled my ATI 4670 GPU, installed nVidia GT 630.  Jockey can't find a driver for it.
[01:24] <deadmund> Shay: IDK
[01:24] <deadmund> arkanabar: jockey doesn't work well.  Use sudo lspci -k to see your driver.
[01:24] <Shay>  /msg deadmund do you have any clue ? maybe android developers ?
[01:25] <deadmund> IDK!
[01:25] <deadmund> :)
[01:25] <yekoms> idk = i dont know, shay
[01:25] <yekoms> incase you didnt know. welp MW3 time ;)
[01:25] <dr_willis> IDK what IDK means.. ;P
[01:25] <Shay> don't kill me yet :P I'm looking for Ubuntu for android any chance where I find alpha builds ?
[01:26] <yekoms> uhm, ask in android.
[01:26] <dr_willis> Shay:  that dosent make a lot of sence.. unless you are refering to those ubuntu in a VM running on android...
[01:26] <tanath> http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[01:26] <dr_willis> Shay:  or you mean reflashing an android device to run ubuntu...
[01:26] <yekoms> android can support android?
[01:26] <yekoms> damnit.
[01:26] <yekoms> android can support vm ubuntu?
[01:26] <yekoms> there!
[01:26] <Shay> yes reflash device to run ubuntu
[01:26] <arkanabar> deadmund, using nouveau.
[01:26] <dr_willis> yekoms:  thats possible. ;)
[01:26] <Shay> I know it's out there
[01:26] <yekoms> Shay you'll need root first.
[01:27] <Shay> I have root acess
[01:27] <dr_willis> Shay:  and it will very very much depend on your device..
[01:27] <deadmund> arkanabar: great, that's the open source driver.  There is a closed source one but you shouldn't switch to it unless you have some problem.
[01:27] <yekoms> then you find the flash package for ubuntu, and use CM to flash that rom.
[01:27] <yekoms> CM-Recovery.
[01:27] <RealOpty> ubuntu on android isnt that exciting. had it on my tablet. was a pain in the ass to use lol
[01:27] <Shay> I have Great device : Galaxy S3
[01:27] <yekoms> warning: its known that ubuntu can destroy a android device.
[01:28] <dr_willis> Shay  you are wanting to flash ubuntu to your Cell Phone?
[01:28] <yekoms> yes dr_willis
[01:28] <Shay> yes
[01:28] <arkanabar> deadmund,  like, say, screen flicker and suboptimal screen resolution?
[01:28] <tanath> installer link: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.zpwebsites.ubuntuinstall
[01:28] <dr_willis> Shay:  You realize it may not be useable as a phone after that?
[01:28] <yekoms> dr_willis, i dont think he cares.
[01:28] <deadmund> arkanabar: pretty good reason.  What does xrandr say about your resolution?
[01:28] <Shay> I realize the risk
[01:29] <arkanabar> 1024x768, 60hz, which is native.
[01:29] <tanath> Shay, ^ what you're looking for?
[01:29] <deadmund> arkanabar: "native" ?
[01:29] <Shay> Ubuntu that can be flashed on my galaxy S3 instead of android
[01:29] <arkanabar> to the hitachi cm751 monitor I'm using.  But its max is 1600x1200.
[01:30] <Shay> I realize the risks could you please tell me where can i find a guide of how to do it ?
[01:30] <Shay> or just from where should I download the files ?
[01:30] <dr_willis> first google hit for 'install ubuntu s3' --> http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s3-ubuntu-installation-linux-97316/
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> yekoms: -ef is the linux standard, ax is the BDS, not all ps's will use ax so its good to use the linux standard in linux (imho)
[01:31] <ActionParsnip> yekoms: the ps man page shows you
[01:31] <dr_willis> that may not be a native rom.. (readingit now)
[01:31] <deadmund> arkanabar: Does xrandr list higher resolutions?
[01:31] <arkanabar> nope.
[01:32] <deadmund> arkanabar: please ping my name like I'm doing for you.
[01:32] <yekoms> universal commands > restricted commands ... imho.
[01:32] <Shay> I know this technique . this is with VNC
[01:32] <Shay> this is not dangerous
[01:32] <Shay> I was taking about
[01:32] <arkanabar> 0.43 seconds.
[01:32] <Shay> Ununtu by Canonical which create a dual boot on your device
[01:32] <deadmund> arkanabar: Alright, try the nvidia driver.  Here is a list of packages.  See the ones that end in e.g. 173, 96, etc   ?
[01:33] <dr_willis> Looks like at this time theres no 'ubuntu roms' to flash to a S3.
[01:33] <arkanabar> one moment please.
[01:33] <Shay> I know there's a verison hidden within the dev hands
[01:33] <brightsparks> I'm running xfce desktop on ubuntu 12.04. When I type xfce4-panel in the terminal the system seems to really speed up? Anyone tell me why? Also when I checked in the package manager I don't seem to have xfce installed. Also how can I find out which version of xfce it is I have running as desktop?
[01:33] <Shay> I have a friend who was the version I'm looking for
[01:33] <ActionParsnip> yekoms: both work, but if you hit a ps without the bsd compatibility, you'll need to hit the man pages. If you are using linux I think its a better choice to use the linux standard
[01:33] <Shay> for Galaxy S2
[01:33] <Shay> :(
[01:34] <arkanabar> deadmund,  I play WoW, so I need current -- earlier versions are not supported.
[01:34] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: i'd say "ps aux" is both BSD/Unix is standard.  isn't gnu/linux a unix-like OS?  [AP, not for you] NOTE: it's "ps aux" not "ps -aux" (see 1st line error message if you use this)
[01:34] <deadmund> arkanabar: alright (assuming you're right).  sudo apt-get purge noeavuou (however you spell that).  and then sudo apt-get install nvidia-current    then reboot
[01:35] <tryingUbuntu> cannot connect the docky weather app...  I put the zip in the search field and it finds my town but nothing happens.. ? 0 Degrees     ????
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: the man page outlines it all :)
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> deadmund: nouveau
[01:36] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: ssh / i forget / man ftw now ;)
[01:36] <deadmund> ActionParsnip: that's it!
[01:36] <deadmund> It's a bingo
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: or the man bang in ddg :)
[01:36] <ActionParsnip> deadmund: oh man, not seen taht film in ages
[01:37] <deadmund> :)
[01:37] <kn0x> Hello all, I was wondering if I could get some advice about Ubuntu 12.04.1 server, NFS exporting an OCFS2  file system and system reboots (From what i can deduce is, OCFS2 is rebooting the hosts when they are under load)
[01:37] <zykotick9> kn0x: wth is OCFS2?
[01:38] <kn0x> I have tried increasing the timeout values, however im curious if that is the correct course of action. I have also noticed that randomly, NFS will unexport itself.. secondary issue, i noticed a bug in the ubuntu bug reports for 12.04.1
[01:38] <kn0x> Oracle Cluster File System 2
[01:39] <tryingUbuntu>  cannot connect the docky weather app...  I put the zip in the search field and it finds my town but nothing happens.. ? 0 Degrees     ????
[01:42] <kn0x> Anyone?
[01:44] <ActionParsnip> kn0x: have you asked in #ubuntu-server too?
[01:45] <tryingUbuntu> Also, if this means anything I cannot find radio stations in npr... I also, just installed docky and tried logging out and back in with no effect    cannot connect the docky weather app...  I put the zip in the search field and it finds my town but nothing happens.. ? 0 Degrees     ????
[01:46] <harrismrubin_> can i make an ubuntu app from python
[01:47] <stercor> Does the 12.04LTS Live Disk have LibreOffice on it?
[01:48] <kn0x> When will Ubuntu fix the NFS problem with the kernel and the client in 12.04.1 LTS Server. It keeps crashing my client servers
[01:48] <txema> Hi, how save my XRANDR seetings on ubuntu 12.04?
[01:49] <John_Michael> hey guys, im having a resolution issue with ubuntu 12.04 and amd 6870 drivers (both proprietary and the defaults), i can't get the resolution set to 1920x1080 through the GUI or xrandr
[01:49] <harrismrubin_> can someone teach me how to write code
[01:49] <harrismrubin_> in python
[01:49] <John_Michael> even though the card and monitor support it
[01:49] <ActionParsnip> harrismrubin_: i'd ask in #python
[01:49] <John_Michael> http://pastebin.com/ya123kBB is a log of my latest attempt to xrandr it
[01:50] <ActionParsnip> John_Michael: make an xorg.conf file then manually edit it to the res you want
[01:50] <stercor> harrismrubin_: There may be a Python channel, or tutorials on the
[01:50] <stercor> web\\
[01:50] <Colton_> when i install unbuntu it does nothing
[01:50] <txema> XRANDR executes OK, but how save the seeting, and when i logon on ubuntu my screen resolution = 1920x1080?
[01:51] <kn0x> Is there an Ubuntu server IRC channel?
[01:51] <zykotick9> Colton_: see "/msg ubottu !doesntwork" and/or "/msg ubottu !details"
[01:52] <Colton_> sorry pardon
[01:52] <John_Michael> ActionParsnip: Under 'Section "Screen"' , do I want to set Viewport 1920 1080?
[01:52] <Colton_> do what
[01:52] <zykotick9> Colton_: FYI using ! when using /msg is an error - sorry.
[01:53] <rmiller90> Can anyone explain to me how to get around the dual boot black screen freezing on install issue?
[01:53] <zykotick9> rmiller90: see "/msg ubottu nomodeset"
[01:54] <Colton_> i didnt do /ms
[01:54] <Colton_> i didnt do */msg
[01:54] <ActionParsnip> John_Michael: yes, if the line is currently showing the res it is at now
[01:55] <zykotick9> Colton_: see "/msg ubottu doesntwork" and/or "/msg ubottu details" and look for two PMs from "ubottu"
[01:56] <Colton_> it said unbutto details
[01:56] <zykotick9> sorry
[01:56] <John_Michael> ActionParsnip, it's showing 0 0, so that could be part of the problem lol
[01:56] <Colton_> hello
[01:56] <zykotick9> !doesntwork | Colton_
[01:56] <zykotick9> !detail | Colton_
[01:56] <zykotick9> !details | Colton_
[01:56] <Colton_> ohh
[01:57] <Colton_> unbuntu 12.10 when i try to install i get through three step then a cmd window pops up and frezzez and i have to restart and windows starts
[01:57] <zykotick9> !msgthebot | Colton_
[01:58] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 for 12.10 Colton_
[01:58] <Colton_> i dont understand i just got irc
[01:58] <kn0x> Hello all, I was wondering if I could get some advice about Ubuntu 12.04.1 server, NFS exporting an OCFS2  file system and system reboots (From what i can deduce is, OCFS2 is rebooting the hosts when they are under load)
[01:59] <zykotick9> bazhang: +1 ;)
[01:59] <kn0x> df -h
[01:59] <kn0x> oops
[01:59] <Colton_> does anyone have skype or mumble to tell me alot easier
[01:59] <tryingUbuntu> any help with that Docky weatherbug that doesn't connect to a correct zip found in the weather search field???  Also, I can not find any radio stations with npr and cannot download or watch any videos with minitube... Seems to be somekind of connection error somewhere
[01:59] <bazhang> Colton_, /join #ubuntu+1
[02:00] <tryingUbuntu> BUT minitube finds searches immediately
[02:00] <John_Michael> ActionParsnip, that didn't work, still running at the wrong resolution
[02:01] <ActionParsnip> John_Michael: did you reboot ?
[02:01] <John_Michael> yea
[02:03] <JKnight> Hi. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04. I did a fresh install a few days ago and just noticed my drive space is gotten lower than expected on my main hard drive. I believe I messed up the partition. Looks like in GParted there is a /dev/sda2 of extended 111.32 GiB. Is there a way to fix the partition on the main drive, without having to re-install everything again?
[02:05] <Datz> Hi. I was wondering if anyone knows if there are showstoppers preventing the package skype provides for 10.04 from working on 12.04.
[02:05] <John_Michael> you should be able to resize the partition JKnight
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> John_Michael: ive no experience with ati video chips, maybe looking at /var/log/Xorg.0.log will shine some lights
[02:05] <Colton_> nobody is talkin in that irc
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> Datz: should be ok as long as deps can be met. Is it different?
[02:05] <bazhang> Colton_, be patient. thats the correct channel
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> Colton_: still doesn't make quantal supported here
[02:06] <zykotick9> JKnight: i'd recommend checking your / for free space?  what other partitions did you create?  "df -h" should show Used/Avil.
[02:06] <DroneX> olla
[02:07] <ismael> Hola
[02:07] <Datz> ActionParsnip:
[02:07] <Datz> ActionParsnip: I have no idea
[02:07] <Harrismrubin> what should i write programs to do in python
[02:07] <Guest22393> I want to install Xubuntu, but I don't really know if I should install 12.10 or 12.04.1
[02:08] <Datz> ActionParsnip: I think I have it working on my desktop iirc. But I think it's made for gnome2
[02:08] <DroneX> want to install xXxubuntu tonight
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> Guest22393, 12.04.1 is the longterm 12.10 is about 3 weeks from release.
[02:08] <Harrismrubin> does anyone here write code
[02:09] <Datz> Anyway, I'll think I'll try it. I'll let you know how it goes if you like ActionParsnip
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> Harrismrubin, Is this a ubuntu issue it seems not?
[02:09] <DroneX> Harrismrubin: maybe in what lanuage
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> Datz: the DE is irrelevant, it can run in any desktop
[02:10] <Harrismrubin> python
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> Datz: why not grab the deb from the skype website...
[02:12] <John_Michael> ActionParsnip, that didnt really shed much light. i've just tried a fglrx reinstall to no avail
[02:14] <Datz> ActionParsnip: that's what I'm doing
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> Datz: sweet
[02:14] <ActionParsnip> Datz: expect a LOT of deps if your OS is 64bit
[02:15] <Harrismrubin> DroneX,  python
[02:15] <John_Michael> ActionParsnip, reverting to stock ubuntu drivers with a modified xorg.conf file results in the monitor not working at all
[02:17] <Harrismrubin> what should a teen write code for
[02:17] <Harrismrubin> i am a teen and i want to write code but i dont know what i should write code for
[02:18] <John_Michael> Harrismrubin, you should join a python channel, someone there will have more ideas
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> Harrismrubin, This is ubuntu support you might try #ubuntu-offtopic . ;)
[02:18] <zykotick9> Datz: fyi "uname -m" from terminal will tell kernel version, x86_64 = amd64, iSOMETHING is 32 bit
[02:19] <Datz> zykotick9: sure thanks. It may have installed...
[02:19] <Datz> no icon.. I'll try and run it from the terminal
[02:20] <vvpalin> /clear
[02:23] <John_Michael> this driver/graphics issue is annoying :?
[02:25] <a_p3rson_> so on my newly upgraded copy of 11.10, i am having a problem where the desktop is wildy stretched (the unity bar is fine), and the screen isnt updating the way it should be. any help?
[02:25] <a_p3rson_> ubuntu is practically in an unusable state now
[02:25] <kn0x> Try NFS.. same thing
[02:26] <a_p3rson_> nfs...?
[02:26] <kn0x> Broken in 12.04.1
[02:26] <a_p3rson_> (also, if I have a transparent element on the desktop, like the alt+f2 menu, underneath it is just fine).
[02:28] <a_p3rson_> kn0x: any other ideas?
[02:28] <a_p3rson_> id post a screencap, but all the screen stuff is messed up
[02:29] <kn0x> No idea man, im having server issues not desktop issues
[02:29] <kn0x> NFS is basically unstable and unusable
[02:29] <a_p3rson_> ah, i thought you were trying to suggest solutions to my problem
[02:29] <a_p3rson_> my bad, sorry
[02:30] <John_Michael> anyone else have any ideas on how to deal with this display issue? the fglrx drivers and the default ubuntu drivers both don't support 1920x1080
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> a_p3rson_, YOu could try alt-f2 unity --reset  hard to say if it will work, did you installed graphic drivers in 11.10?
[02:30] <John_Michael> tried changing via gui, xrandr, and xorg.conf and nothing works
[02:31] <a_p3rson_> wilee-nilee: i actually had them installed in 10.04, just started the upgrade steps to precise this afternoon
[02:31] <fishbait> okay i have a 2 monitor 2 desktop setup how i get it to share worksapces between them?
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> a_p3rson_, I believe you have top reinstall them on upgrades, I have never had to install a graphic driver myself, others may confirm this.
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> to*
[02:32] <a_p3rson_> ok, just tried that, and it only worked for a moment
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> a_p3rson_, It may be you have to remove the old ones first and install the new ones.
[02:33] <fishbait> willie-nilee: i've heard dkms can be used to avoid having to do that
[02:33] <fishbait> reinstalling on each kernel i mean
[02:33] <a_p3rson_> how would i do that over terminal? seems to be the only working thing right now, i have an ATI card, so it would be removing CCC
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> fishbait, As I suggested this is beyond my pay scale, others should be confirming this, I have never sen dkms here though.
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> seen*
[02:34] <seumas_> whats the slowest hardware you managed to get 12.04.1 to work on?
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> seumas_, look at the specs needed that is a poll question, there are other lighter desktops.
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> then unity anyway
[02:36] <bazhang> !requirements> seumas_
[02:36] <eset> buenas noches
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> !pm > fishbait
[02:36] <wilee-nilee> fishbait, I do not PM.
[02:37] <fishbait> wilee-nilee: i saw a forum post on it before thought that maybe a google search would help the person re-installing every kernel is a real pain in the butt
[02:38] <seumas_> i was just asking so far it's running on my ancient 500mhz pent 3
[02:38] <seumas_> a bit slow but fully functioning
[02:38] <fishbait> ooh is it a slot 1 processor?
[02:38] <seumas_> yup
[02:38] <seumas_> :D
[02:39] <John_Michael> hmm now i cant delete read-only files as root in recovery mode
[02:39] <seumas_> good old slot one
[02:39] <KM0201> you can do anything as root in recovery mode.
[02:39] <fishbait> O.O i once ran debian on a 266mhz hp with a slot 1 processor only thing that ever died on it was the hdd
[02:39] <eset> amigos colegas necesito su colaboracion en una cosa
[02:39] <John_Michael> KM0201, ubuntu is saying otherwise
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> John_Michael, Is the partition mounted?
[02:40] <KM0201> John_Michael: ubuntu, as in.. someone at Cannonical, or the OS?
[02:40] <Kardos> ...
[02:40] <John_Michael> remounted the drive as read/write, fixed
[02:40] <a_p3rson_> ok, just tried doing sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx, and that sure as hell didnt work.
[02:41] <fishbait> okay i have a 2 monitor 2 desktop setup how do i get it to share worksapces for both monitors
[02:41] <John_Michael> a_p3rson_, there are more package names
[02:41] <KM0201> fishbait: you mean one big desktop, as opposed to a separate work space on each screen
[02:41] <a_p3rson_> it removed 2, any more?
[02:41] <a_p3rson_> John_Michael:
[02:42] <fishbait> KM0201: no i mean i have 2 monitors and want them to share a four workspace pool
[02:42] <John_Michael> sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx fglrx_* fglrx-amdcccle* fglrx-dev*
[02:42] <John_Michael> a_p3rson_, ^^^
[02:42] <KM0201> hmm, i know how to do it with Gnome/Nvidia... Unity, made dual screen weird for me.
[02:43] <KM0201> fishbait: whats your graphics card?
[02:43] <eset> help
[02:43] <a_p3rson_> will try that, soon as I can get into the recovery mode
[02:43] <fishbait> KM0201: ati radeon hd 6670 fglrx driver gnome-fallback gui
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> !es | eset
[02:44] <KM0201> fishbait: ah, ok.. i have no idea on ATI... i hate ati.
[02:44] <eset> trankyou
[02:44] <fishbait> ... maybe link me to the nvidia ones to give me a clue?
[02:45] <OerHeks> !ati
[02:45] <KM0201> fishbait: i highly doubt it, because it uses the nvidia configuration tool to set it up.
[02:45] <fishbait> ahh i see twin view right?
[02:45] <KM0201> more or less, yes.
[02:46] <a_p3rson_> John_Michael: just tried that through the recovery console, said they werent installed. libgladeui and dkms were installed though, and said they are no longer required
[02:46] <John_Michael> then just do an autoremove and your done
[02:47] <fishbait> no not what i'm going for i have workspace switchers in the bottom panels on both monitors each with a completely sperate desktops i want the both switchers to point to the same 4 workspace
[02:49] <a_p3rson_> John_Michael: still didnt work. cant even get to the login screen, seeing lots of strange colors on my monitor, thats it.
[02:51] <John_Michael> a_p3rson_, not sure what to tell you
[02:51] <John_Michael> i havent been able to get my graphics card to work properly in linux either
[02:51] <John_Michael> pretty depressing
[02:52] <a_p3rson_> also, if i push ctrl-alt-f1-f7, the screen changes, as if it knows something is happening
[02:52] <a_p3rson_> (f1 through f7)
[02:52] <fishbait> dual monitor multi-desktop radeon hd 6670 gnome-fallback i have workspace switchers in the bottom panels on both monitors each with a completely sperate desktops i want the both switchers to point to the same 4 workspace
[02:52] <fishbait> how?
[02:54] <fishbait> dual monitor multi-desktop radeon hd 6670 gnome-fallback i have workspace switchers in the bottom panels on both monitors each with a completely sperate desktops i want the both switchers to point to the same 4 workspace anyone able to help me accomplish this?
[02:58] <chicognu> how do i encrypt my home folder in a usb live disk ?
[03:00] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[03:03] <glah> helo all
[03:03] <chicognu> how do i encrypt my home folder in a usb live disk ?
[03:04] <bazhang> chicognu, perhaps you mean a persistent usb
[03:04] <chicognu> bazhang, not sure ... i creat it usin usb-disk command
[03:05] <bazhang> chicognu, a live usb does not save changes
[03:05] <chicognu> bazhang, my saves, i choose the options to store 4gb of data
[03:05] <bazhang> !usb | chicognu check the last link here
[03:05] <bazhang> chicognu, thats persistent then
[03:05] <chicognu> nice
[03:05] <chicognu> so it can be encrypted ?
[03:07] <chicognu> bazhang, mine i creat just using the usb-creator-gtk
[03:08] <chicognu> and choosing to save things in pendrive
[03:09] <bazhang> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/encrypt-home-folder-ubuntu-installation-linux/ chicognu this may be useful
[03:10] <John_Michael> Anyone have any ideas on how to get ubuntu to recognize the max. resolution of my screen properly? xrandr and xconf changes havent worked
[03:10] <chicognu> i just open this link right now hehe thank you bazhang
[03:11] <lxer> so
[03:14] <seumas_> does anyone in here play around with old hardware?
[03:14] <bazhang> !ot | seumas_
[03:21] <rds_>  hai Guys ! anyone tell me where to get royalty free images for web designing for free ?
[03:27] <nvictor> has anyone used the auditd tool ?
[03:30] <Tiktalik> what graphics card brands are best for linux
[03:31] <fishbait> dual monitor multi-desktop radeon hd 6670 gnome-fallback i have workspace switchers in the bottom panels on both monitors each with a completely sperate desktops i want the both switchers to point to the same 4 workspace anyone able to help me accomplish this?
[03:32] <raymond_> fishbait, I might be wrong, but isn't that how it works out of the box?
[03:33] <fishbait> no now they both point to seperate set if i select my current workspace it shows different ones on both
[03:34] <raymond_> fishbait, ok.. so you don't want screen cloning.. but you want to be able to independently select the workspace shown on each screen from the same set?  And not have them linked how they are normally.
[03:34] <fishbait> yep
[03:35] <viril> hello!
[03:35] <viril> anyone want to share a site with downloadable pdf or powerpoint presentation for training in Ubuntu 10.04?
[03:35] <viril> or at least installation guide pdf or ppt?
[03:37] <xangua> !manual | viril
[03:38] <viril> thanks xangua
[03:41] <tech1> im trying to remove wine. i used sudo apt-get remove wine, and sudo apt-get --purge remove wine, but the wine folders are still there and its still there in the panel menu
[03:46] <nvictor> anyone ?
[03:46] <raymond_> fishbait, http://superuser.com/questions/74914/gnu-linux-dual-screen-and-seperate-workspaces <-- seems it might be possible, but may require a different window manager.
[03:47] <fishbait> hmm ty
[03:48] <Nautilus> i have 12.04 with LXDE but Synaptic won't start.  It asks for auth then just... nothing
[03:48] <Nautilus> ideas?
[03:49] <raymond_> Nautilus, I've hit that problem before.  iirc it's an issue with gnome-keyring.
[03:50] <raymond_> If you want to start it though, you can start it in a termial with sudo synaptic
[03:50] <Nautilus> oh thanks, that does it :)
[03:53] <raymond_> Nautilus,   http://askubuntu.com/questions/162011/synaptic-wont-launch-from-menu-in-panel-in-fresh-lubuntu-minimal-desktop-12-04 <-- This solution might work for you getting to launch from the menu.
[03:55] <Nautilus> raymond_: IN my case I get the auth dialog, but nothing happens after that
[03:55] <MagusAgnus> good evening
[03:56] <MagusAgnus> anyone expert in gpt and grub?
[03:58] <raymond_> Nautilus, I forgot exactly what I did to solve the problem.. I think it just magically corrected itself after an update.
[03:59] <Nautilus> ok, no biggie for now.  I do have updates for the last few days to apply
[03:59] <raymond_> maybe try reinstalling policykit?
[03:59] <Nautilus> ike this?  sudo apt-get reinstall policykit  ?
[04:00] <Nautilus> or remove and install?
[04:01] <raymond_> Nautilus, try reinstall first.
[04:01] <jagginess> Nautilus, apt-get --reinstall install <packagename>
[04:02] <Nautilus> just found it like this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall packagename   ... option order doesnt matter there?
[04:03] <jagginess> eh
[04:03] <jagginess> good boy you found out how to do it
[04:03] <Nautilus> do i get a cookie :)       (thanks!)
[04:04] <jagginess> no, it makes you look dumb after i told the channel how to do it. No thanks.
[04:04]  * jagginess sleeps
[04:05] <Nautilus> i look dumb anyways
[04:14] <juniour> hi
[04:14] <juniour> hello
[04:14] <juniour> guys
[04:15] <TheChaser> hrmm?
[04:15] <TheChaser> lol
[04:15] <juniour> hi i want to install the latest version of firefox help  me
[04:16] <juniour> i have downloaded the soure from firefox website but how would i install
[04:17] <juniour> i have downloaded the soure from firefox website but how would i install
[04:17] <juniour> ubot
[04:18] <juniour> hi i want to install the latest version of firefox help  me
[04:18] <juniour> hi i want to install the latest version of firefox help  me
[04:18] <juniour> hi i want to install the latest version of firefox help  me
[04:18] <FloodBot1> juniour: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:18] <juniour> mode/#ubuntu
[04:19] <juniour>  mode/#ubuntu [-zq juniour!*@*]
[04:19] <juniour> quit
[04:19] <juniour> exit
[04:19] <acolytetojippity> hey, quick question, when installing ubuntu on a portable hard drive, do i need to make a seperate partition for /boot, /home, /usr, etc. or can i install the whole thing to one larger partition (i guess mounting '/' to it?)
[04:19] <ProVida> hi guys
[04:21] <hack> hi
[04:21] <hack> guys
[04:21] <x010100x> hello
[04:21] <hack> how to install latest version of firefox
[04:21] <x010100x> any way to recover password on ubuntu server 12.04
[04:22] <x010100x> the lack of root is killing me
[04:22] <hack> i have downloaded the source from firefox site but how to install
[04:22] <Nautilus> acolytetojippity: I don't know a lot about it but I think minimal best install is a /tmp partition (2x size of ram) and a partition for everything else.  There's aeven a particular type of partition for /tmp
[04:22] <acolytetojippity> install ff on ubuntu?
[04:22] <hack> how to install latest version of firefox
[04:22] <hack> i have downloaded the source from firefox site but how to install
[04:22] <acolytetojippity> doesn't ff install by default?
[04:22] <blackhole> hi
[04:23] <acolytetojippity> @nautilus i allocated a swap partition
[04:23] <Nautilus> yea that's the /tmp
[04:23] <acolytetojippity> it wasn't twice my ran though
[04:23] <acolytetojippity> i'm working with a 50GB partition on a portable HDD
[04:24] <Nautilus> 50G /tmp?
[04:24] <acolytetojippity> so putting 6-16GB of swap takes a huge chunk out of workable space
[04:24] <acolytetojippity> no, 50GB for the entire install
[04:24] <juniour> hi
[04:24] <acolytetojippity> the remaining space on the drive is going to be used as storage for anime
[04:24] <hack> how to install latest version of firefox
[04:24] <hack> i have downloaded the source from firefox site but how to install
[04:25] <Nach0z> make && make install, usually
[04:25] <acolytetojippity> hack, did you read what I typed?
[04:25] <Nautilus> acolytetojippity: you could google for size recommendations.  If you're at 4 to 6 that might be fine
[04:25] <juniour> how to change the login drum sound
[04:26] <acolytetojippity> hmm, ok.  I mean, i installed it all from a liveCD, but i can't boot into it.  grub yells at me, something about unrecognized filesystem.
[04:26] <hack> yes its the but i want latest
[04:26] <acolytetojippity> might that be because I never made a /boot partition?
[04:26] <Nautilus> what you want is a swap partition AND a OS partition.
[04:26] <hack>  acolytetojippity i want latest
[04:26] <Nautilus> then install to the OS partition
[04:27] <juniour> how to change the login drum sound in 12.04
[04:27] <acolytetojippity> yeah, i have a swap partition.  and a larger partition i made '/'
[04:27] <acolytetojippity> mounted to '/'
[04:27] <acolytetojippity> or however you say it.
[04:27] <Nautilus> hmm.  you named it "/"?
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> juniour: http://askubuntu.com/questions/101790/disable-or-change-gnome-drum-beat-sound
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> juniour: source: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+change+login+drum+sound
[04:28] <acolytetojippity> no, in the installer GUI.  i picked the 50GB partition, and changed it to ext3, and mounted '/' to it
[04:28] <ActionParsnip> juniour: too hard for you?
[04:28] <Nautilus> acolytetojippity: oh, do you know what filesystem you chose for the large partition?  (I usually use ext3)
[04:29] <acolytetojippity> yeah, ext3.  it's not the first partition on the HDD though, because windows wouldn't recognize the entire HDD if the first partition is ext3
[04:29] <Nautilus> acolytetojippity: also, IIRC there is a *special* filesystem you select when making the swap partition
[04:29] <acolytetojippity> yep.  i selected swap for that one.  should the swap partition go at the end of the drive?
[04:29] <Nautilus> oder doesn't matter, outside of (possible?) performance issues
[04:30] <acolytetojippity> so it can still boot from a partition at the ass-end of the drive?  that's good.
[04:30] <toyiak> I just updated my 12.04 and my firefox won't start.  Installed Chromium and it too would not start.  I have access to net (hence the update and installation of Chromium) but no web browser will start.  Any one else ever experience this?
[04:30] <Nautilus> i dont think order matters anyways.  I have a dual boot box with XP, Ubuntu OS, Ubuntu swap partition order
[04:30] <ActionParsnip> toyiak: launch them from terminal, the output will be useful
[04:30] <toyiak> good idea
[04:31] <Nautilus> actually mine is NTFS, NTFS, U large, U swap
[04:31] <acolytetojippity> This is not a dualboot though.  this is on a portable hard drive i'm trying to boot from.  hell, i even pulled the sata cable from my internal drive to be safe before installing 12.04 on the portable
[04:31] <Nautilus> ohhh, botting from external, not sure I can help ya there, but it did find grub so I'm guessing that part worked?
[04:31] <ActionParsnip> juniour: have you not seen that page I posted?
[04:32] <kenpachi7996> toyiak: before trying to launch from terminal us "ps U (username)" and ensure that you kill all pid for any firefox instances running
[04:32] <Nautilus> acolytetojippity: ah, so the box just sees the single drive anyways
[04:32] <acolytetojippity> yeah.  it only can see the portable
[04:32] <acolytetojippity> should we take this to private chat, to not clog up other people trying to get help?
[04:33] <Nautilus> so grub tried but something with the filesystems
[04:33] <Nautilus> i think I halped as much as I can.
[04:33] <acolytetojippity> it said
[04:33] <juniour> ActionParsnip this will change startup sound not login screen drum
[04:33] <acolytetojippity> error: unrecognizeable filesystem
[04:33] <acolytetojippity> grub rescue>
[04:33] <Nautilus> sounds like there's other partitions on the drive.  dunno if Ubuntu OS needs to be a primary partition
[04:33] <acolytetojippity> wait...
[04:33] <ActionParsnip> juniour: change the sound file named and it will change the drum sound, you can check by manually playing the sound yourself
[04:34] <juniour> ActionParsnip i changed th startup sound but stucke in login screen drum sound
[04:34] <juniour> ya i have seen drup sound is not there
[04:34] <acolytetojippity> priary partition...you're saying that grub might have been trying to boot from the first partition it saw that was 'primary'?
[04:34] <acolytetojippity> and that wasn't the ubuntu installation, so GRUB kinda derped?
[04:34] <ActionParsnip> juniour: does the drum sound play if you open /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/system-ready.ogg
[04:35] <Nautilus> no, there are 'primary" and 'extended'(?) partitions, if I recall the names correctly.  Not using the word to mean first.
[04:35] <acolytetojippity> is that related to 'logical' partitions?
[04:35] <Nautilus> ah, yep.  IIRC logicals go in extendeds
[04:35] <ActionParsnip> juniour: there may be other sound files in the same folder, play a few and you will see which file to replace
[04:36] <juniour> ActionParsnip its not the actual fiel it symbolic link to orignal
[04:36] <juniour> ActionParsnip system-ready.ogg is there
[04:36] <ActionParsnip> juniour: the OS doesn't care, its still a playable file
[04:36] <juniour> but symbolic
[04:37] <acolytetojippity> ok.  which do i want to have?  i can reformat the storage part of the drive, if needed.  there's no files on it yet
[04:37] <ActionParsnip> juniour: well you have an avenue to run with. Suprised you haven't seen this considering it took me less than 60 seconds to find. Did you even websearch a litle to try and find the files?
[04:38] <Nautilus> acolytetojippity: I'd probably try again... remove the 2 partitions, recreate a swap partion (specifically choosing swap filesystem), and create your main partition as ext3 ... both as Primary partitions if possible (that can depend on how many total partitions there are)
[04:38] <juniour> ActionParsnip if i rename the another sound file to system-ready.ogg and replace to orignal it will work
[04:38] <buhman> ubuntu: on every boot ip6tables ends up looking like this: http://sprunge.us/KQQf
[04:38] <buhman> I want to know what's loading those policies
[04:38] <buhman> and how to change the policies to ACCEPT
[04:38] <acolytetojippity> do i want the storage partition to be primary?
[04:38] <ActionParsnip> juniour: you can symlink the sound file to another, or copy in a new one, its the same difference in Linux
[04:39] <Nautilus> acolytetojippity: storage partition?
[04:39] <acolytetojippity> i mean, i can delete that partition in the ubuntu installer, and then format it again in windows if i need to, if that's what it takes
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> juniour: obviously you will need sudo to make the changes as the folder is owned by root
[04:39] <Nautilus> format it in windows??
[04:39] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: primary partitions and logical partitions don't make any difference, as long as it is a partition
[04:40] <acolytetojippity> yeah, i use windows as my primary system.  but we need to have an installation of ubuntu for class, and i'd like to have a somewhat lighter system to carry with me and boot into to fix viruses and such
[04:40] <acolytetojippity> thanks parsnip!
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: there is no 'primary system' in a dual boot
[04:41] <SecretFire> when does 12.10 come out
[04:41] <Nautilus>  you dont format a swap or ext2/ext3 partition from windows.
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: you choose which OS to boot at boot time and the selected OS loads
[04:41] <acolytetojippity> i know that.  i was talking about the large storage partition.
[04:41] <Nautilus> if the large partition is NTFS, that might be the problem
[04:41] <ActionParsnip> SecretFire: look at the version number and think :)
[04:42] <SecretFire> yea i know 12th year 10th month
[04:42] <acolytetojippity> i used to have this working on a different portable, and that didn't make a difference.
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: so how is one OS primary?
[04:42] <Jellyg00se> BOOB
[04:42] <Jellyg00se> ooer
[04:42] <nvictor> where ?
[04:42] <nvictor> :)
[04:42] <ActionParsnip> SecretFire: there you go then :)
[04:42] <SecretFire> what day though?
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> SecretFire: I'd ask in #ubuntu+1
[04:43] <acolytetojippity> primary meaning that's what i use, love, and can fix/tweak
[04:43] <Jellyg00se> Tuesday after the friday which jhappeed like movvember!
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: that doesn't make it primary
[04:43] <Nautilus> he used primary in a descriptive sense there
[04:43] <nvictor> lol
[04:43] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: if you want to play with Ubuntu just bang it in a partition, or you could use virtualbox etc (depending on your system spec)
[04:43] <acolytetojippity> what he said ^^
[04:44] <acolytetojippity> i'm trying to bang it in a partition
[04:44] <acolytetojippity> it's not working
[04:44]  * acolytetojippity sobs
[04:44] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: no problem, do you have unpartitioned space and how many partitions do you have setup?
 acolytetojippity: I'd probably try again... remove the 2 partitions, recreate a swap partion (specifically choosing swap filesystem), and create your main partition as ext3 ... both as Primary partitions if possible (that can depend on how many total partitions there are)
[04:45] <toyiak> kenpachi7996: I tried what you suggested but nothing happens.  Typing firefox in the terminal window just gives me a prompt.
[04:45] <Nautilus> and make sure ya dont install to the swap partition
[04:45] <acolytetojippity> @naut i'll do that.  unfortunately i will need to leave to do that though, as i'm pulling my internal drive before screwing with the ubuntu stuff
[04:45] <Nautilus> good luck :)
[04:46] <Nautilus> acolytetojippity: ...
[04:46] <Nautilus> check all the settings in the Create Partition dialogs... format... make sure it's ON, etc.
[04:46] <acolytetojippity> @parsnip i have 3 partitions.  a very large one that is NTFS at the front of the drive, a 2GB swap partition, and then a 50GB ext3 partition.  i mounted '/' to that ext3 one in the installer
[04:47] <Nautilus> dont mount, install.  Not sure if you're just using the wrong word there or doing something wrong.
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: if you remove the swap adn ext3 partition in the liveCD (or even in Windows) you can then run the installer and it will install to the free space
[04:47] <Nautilus> just select the 50G to install to
[04:47] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: the installer will setup partittions for you and be fine
[04:48] <Nautilus> ActionParsnip: oh cool, as 2 partitions?
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: it will alos use Ext4 which is a little faster than Ext3
[04:48] <ActionParsnip> Nautilus: yes, swap and / is default
[04:49] <acolytetojippity> in the installer, i click the 50GB partition, and click 'change'.  I select 'ext3', check format, and then there's something about 'mounting' something (/, /root,/boot, etc...)
[04:49] <Nautilus> ohhh, I think that's a more adcanced setting
[04:49] <Nautilus> advanced*
[04:49] <acolytetojippity> :sigh:
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: if you want to do it that way, make a 2.2Gb partition as swap, then the rest as / formatted to Ext4.
[04:50] <acolytetojippity> i honestly prefer 9.04
[04:50] <acolytetojippity> that was so easy to install.
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: Jaunty is super dead, thanks god
[04:50] <acolytetojippity> yeah, but it worked the second time i installed it (technically, it worked the first time, but i accidentally put the ubuntu install in the front of the drive, so windows wouldn't recognize the thing
[04:50] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: you need to set the mount point of the large partition to '/' so the installer knows the partition to put the files on
[04:51] <acolytetojippity> set mount point!!!!!!!!!
[04:51] <acolytetojippity> THAT"S THE WORDING!!!!
[04:51] <acolytetojippity> god i'm a noob
[04:51] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: yes, set the large partition to /   the swap space doesn't have a mount point
[04:51] <acolytetojippity> agreed.
[04:52] <Nautilus> sounds like just try again, good luck!
[04:52] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: some folks like to have a separate /home partition but for your needs the 2 partition way will be fine :)
[04:53] <acolytetojippity> thanks.  sorry for this whole long support thing.  i know how annoying it can be to know what you're talking about and not be helping someone who can't understand
[04:53] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: we got there and thats what counts :)
[04:53] <acolytetojippity> wait, i frakked that up.
[04:54] <ActionParsnip> acolytetojippity: you'll understand with time :)
[04:58] <redwarriors25> how will i edit  the permission in folder in ubuntu
[04:59] <ActionParsnip> redwarriors25: look into chown and chmod
[05:04] <ActionParsnip> redwarriors25: you won't be able to change NTFS / FAT file systems, those need setting at mount time
[05:12] <blackhole> my game at wine is lagging?
[05:13] <ActionParsnip> blackhole: have you checked the appdb for guides on making it faster>?
[05:15] <tdbear> Ubuntu Server Guide
[05:15] <ActionParsnip> blackhole: also try using Unity2D session, may help if compiz isn't around stinking up the place
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> tdbear: what about it?
[05:16] <tdbear> new to site and trying to locate it
[05:16] <ActionParsnip> tdbear: then why didn't you say that?
[05:17] <tdbear> 2 many hours doing home work
[05:17] <nvictor> i want to monitor a directory tree and see processes that modify files, how can i easily do that ?
[05:17] <ActionParsnip> tdbear: so you couldn't type a full and intelligent question?
[05:18] <tdbear> dont be an ass
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> nvictor: tripwire can do that if memory serves
[05:18] <redwarriors25_> how can i edit permission of a file
[05:18] <ActionParsnip> tdbear: in futire, can you use full questions, it makes life a lot easier
[05:19] <nvictor> redwarriors25, man chmod
[05:19] <redwarriors25_> coming from a fle server centos
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> tdbear: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> tdbear: all sorts of guides for all sorts of server there
[05:19] <tdbear> thx
[05:19] <ActionParsnip> tdbear: np :)
[05:22] <ActionParsnip> tdbear: bit of an FYI, I can still type fine and I'm on my 3rd day of 12 hour shifts at work. I bet I am a LOT more tired than you
[05:22] <tdbear> lol sounds like you have nothing better to do than be a dick
[05:23] <ActionParsnip> tdbear: no I'm happy to help but if people don't say what they need then expect and answer, how do you expect to progress
[05:23] <timfrost> redwarriors25_: do you have an account on the file server, and does the file belong to that account?  If the answer to either s 'no' then you can't change the permissions on the file
[05:24] <blackhole> ActionParsnip, ok i try thanks...
[05:30] <gogo_> Hello! please how to watch live TV on ubuntu?
[05:31] <gogo_> what is the best program for watching television channels?
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> gogo_: buy a tv card or find a website with a stream
[05:31] <ActionParsnip> gogo_: there is no single best [program, for anything in any OS
[05:32] <gogo_> okay, so what websites you know that provide free TV streaming
[05:32] <gogo_> ?
[05:32] <ActionParsnip> gogo_: http://lifehacker.com/5055337/five-best-sites-to-stream-tv
[05:33] <gogo_> thanks ActionParsnip!
[05:37] <Lartza> Fresh Ubuntu install (server), installed sudo, "sudo: must be setuid root"
[05:38] <jpds> Lartza: Nice, no idea what you did there.
[05:38] <Lartza> Seriously nothin, after I installed sudo the only thing I did was ad myself to the sudo group and install vsftpd
[05:38] <Lartza> *nothing
[05:38] <Lartza> also EDITOR=nano visudo but made no changes
[05:39] <jpds> "After I installed sudo" ?
[05:39] <jpds> Comes by default.
[05:39] <Lartza> I think i chomodded it right
[05:39] <Lartza> Did not
[05:39] <Lartza> On the server
[05:39] <Lartza> Probably minimal install
[05:39] <jpds> $ apt-cache rdepends sudo
[05:40] <jpds> ubuntu-minimal
[05:40] <jpds> Right.
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> Lartza: ubuntu server comes installed with sudo
[05:40] <TheChaser> Does anyone know why my grub file doesnt appear when i type in this command? gksu gedit /etc/default/grub
[05:40] <Lartza> Hmm weird then
[05:40] <ActionParsnip> TheChaser: which desktop are you using?
[05:40] <TheChaser> Does anyone know why my grub file doesnt appear when i type this in gksu gedit /etc/default/grub?
[05:41] <TheChaser> oops sorry didbnt mean to put that twice
[05:41] <Lartza> It should work now chmod sudo to 4755 and sudoers to 0440
[05:41] <TheChaser> ubuntu 12.04
[05:41] <Lartza> I mean it does, but should be no problems ;)
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> TheChaser: try:  gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[05:42] <TheChaser> alright.. like it appears and i have to type in the password.. but then it goes away.. but im gonna try that
[05:42] <TheChaser> ok.. so that works
[05:42] <Cur10u8> hey ! how can i browse my system files in ubuntu?
[05:42] <TheChaser> but whats the difference like can you explain so i kinda understand?
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> Cur10u8: use nautilus
[05:42] <Cur10u8> Pls help.
[05:42] <Cur10u8> What is it?
[05:43] <CPF0000> Can anyone helo me with a USB boot problem I am having? When I press enter on Install Ubuntu Server, the machine reboots.
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> TheChaser: i'd check the man pages, I'm kinda in and out atm
[05:43] <Abbas5> guys, im trying to setup a standard pptp vpn connection. everything i've entered ok as on the vpn site manual. what is the NT-domain?
[05:43] <CPF0000> I created the image with DD
[05:43] <TheChaser> Alright no worries
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> CPF0000: did you MD5 test teh ISO you transferred
[05:43] <CPF0000> yes
[05:43] <CPF0000> it's fine
[05:43] <CPF0000> I also tried several different images
[05:43] <CPF0000> they all do this
[05:44] <CPF0000> inclusing the netinstall
[05:45] <Cur10u8> how to open nautilus?
[05:45] <jiltdil> I forget db password  oracle, how to recover it?
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> Cur10u8: press ALT+F2 and run it
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> CPF0000: have you tested the RAM using memtest on the USB stick
[05:48] <Cur10u8> but  it opens a command prompt?
[05:48] <Cur10u8> How can i open nautilus?
[05:48] <Cur10u8> and browse my system files and folders.
[05:48] <timfrost> Abbas5: If the VPN needs to authenticate to a Windows domain, then you should have been advised of that, and put that in the NT-domain field.  Otherwise, leave it empty
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> Cur10u8: in the ALT+F2 dialogue, type:  nautilus
[05:48] <Cur10u8> i'm a noob pls help
[05:49] <ActionParsnip> Cur10u8: or, in terminal type: nautilus
[05:49] <cdeoge_de> it ok
[05:53] <Cur10u8> what's the best IRC channel on Ubuntu?
[05:53] <awestroke> Cur10u8: ?
[05:53] <cfhowlett> Cur10u8: #ubuntu
[05:54] <awestroke> Cur10u8: you are on freenode, in the channel #ubuntu
[05:54] <Cur10u8> oh sorry i mean IRC client?
[05:56] <Cur10u8> what's the best IRC client on Ubuntu?
[05:56] <cfhowlett> !best|Cur10u8:
[05:56] <ActionParsnip> Cur10u8: there isn't one, there isn't a best IRC client on any OS
[05:56] <awestroke> Cur10u8: I prefer quassel though
[05:56] <awestroke> ActionParsnip: false. limechat is the best on osx
[05:56] <awestroke> it is sexy
[05:57] <ActionParsnip> awestroke: thats your opinion, nothing more
[05:57] <TheChaser> alright one more question and ill leave ya'll alone.. i wanna set my laptop to have ubuntu 12.04 as the default start up instead of windows 7.. what do i need to change in the grub file? off hand?
[05:58] <awestroke> ActionParsnip: nk opinion is fact opinion
[05:58] <cfhowlett> TheChaser: by default, grub will set ubuntu as the 1st boot
[05:58] <CPF0000> So can any of you suggest why my usb stick would be rebooting?
[05:58] <TheChaser> with out me having the choice of picking?
[05:58] <CPF0000> er
[05:58] <TheChaser> it will just boot ubuntu up?
[05:59] <CPF0000> why my machine is rebooting after I hit "install ubuntu server"?
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> CPF0000: tried a different USB stick
[05:59] <CPF0000> ActionParsnip: Yes I have.
[05:59] <ActionParsnip> CPF0000: and a different USB port?
[06:00] <CPF0000> both the regular and alternate images fail in the same way
[06:00] <CPF0000> reboot at the menu
[06:00] <CPF0000> I am about to try a debian image
[06:00] <CPF0000> just to see if it works
[06:00] <wilee-nilee> TheChaser, If you install ubuntu in a partition not a wubi install from windows its bootloader grub will be the boot and ubuntu is the default
[06:01] <cfhowlett> TheChaser: and if you ARE using wubi, be aware that wubi is a testing platform, NOT a long term installation option.  So sayeth the wubi developers.
[06:02] <CPF0000> When I make an image with unetbootin, it isn't even bootable
[06:02] <CPF0000> err, make a USB
[06:02] <CPF0000> Sorry folks, I'm very flustered
[06:09] <wes332> hello
[06:10] <Calinou> CPF0000: can your computer boot from USB? keep in mind you can't boot from unetbootin USB drives on a mac
[06:10] <Calinou> make sure the ISO is not corrupted (at least, see its size)
[06:10] <wes332> i am looking for a way for my computer to report it's IP to me whenever it gets a connection.  similar to Dydns or so?
[06:10] <wes332> has anybody ever done this?
[06:10] <EdMarx> done what
[06:10] <CPF0000> Calinou I installed Windows Server on it from USB
[06:11] <CPF0000> I am just using the Mac and unetbootin to make the images
[06:11] <CPF0000> er , write the images
[06:11] <wes332> I would say email me it's IP when it has network connection, but not email
[06:11] <wes332> because the place it is going doesn't outgoing port 25 available
[06:12] <Calinou> CPF0000: is this relevant to ubuntu? no. windows server sucks anyway :P
[06:12] <CPF0000> Calinou: It is relevant in that I was able to get windows server to install to that PC via USB
[06:13] <Calinou> so your computer can boot on USB... are you trying to install it on a mac?
[06:13] <CPF0000> Calinou: Which means ubuntu shouls be capable of the same
[06:13] <nsjshw> Hi
[06:13] <EdMarx> Ive had problems installing linux on lion
[06:13] <wilee-nilee> CPF0000, Th.at is a bad cause and effect
[06:13] <Calinou> unetbootin USB drives cannot be booted from a mac, remember (the project's page said so)
[06:13] <wes332> so it would have to i guess try and auto connect via ssh to my known ip, then create a file of that contains it's current IP
[06:13] <Calinou> EdMarx: explain?
[06:14] <nsjshw> Guys little help please
[06:14] <wes332> what do you want
[06:14] <EdMarx> I just had problems it was a while ago. I it wouldn't let me install it simply wouldn't boot into linux not usb not cd
[06:14] <wilee-nilee> nsjshw, Sate you problem in the form of a question. ;)
[06:14] <CPF0000> Calinou: No, I am writing the images to a USB stick with the Mac, and plugging it into a Gateway E-4500D and booting the stick there.
[06:14] <wilee-nilee> state*
[06:14] <somsip> wes332: why don't you use a free dynamic dns service like noip?
[06:14] <cfhowlett> !who
[06:14] <nsjshw> Why does it say in terminal @echooff command not found
[06:15] <nsjshw> When I open a program
[06:15] <wes332> somsip, i was thinking about it.  i would like to have that IP sent to me only though, not a 3rd party though.  maybe noip can do that?
[06:15] <wes332> thank you for the reply btw somsip
[06:15] <nsjshw> Any suggestions
[06:16] <nsjshw> ??
[06:16] <leotr> hi! how do i do the following: autologin to user account and run X server which runs program in .xinitrc
[06:16] <somsip> wes332: noip or dyndns - both do a free limited account IIRC. Maybe you'd just need to use an obscure FQDN
[06:16] <fidel> gnome3 is missing its menubar & windows are missing its window-decoration. am i right that this is a metacity issue ...i remember a --replace cmd. any pointers?
[06:16] <somsip> nsjshw: you have a mis-spelling in a bash file somewhere - should be @echo off
[06:16] <wes332> nsjshw, for the user starting the program, check their bash profile to see if it's entering that
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> fidel, gnome 3 the shell?
[06:17] <nsjshw> I'm typing ./and the name of the progran
[06:17] <nsjshw> M*
[06:17] <fidel> wilee-nilee: yep
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> fidel, It uses mutter.
[06:18] <CPF0000> I am trying the i386 version now
[06:18] <elbayya7elo> Any help
[06:18] <elbayya7elo> ??
[06:18] <somsip> !ask | elbayya7elo
[06:18] <wilee-nilee> fidel, YOu can restart it with alt-f2 r if needed.
[06:18] <elbayya7elo> Ok
[06:19] <wes332> elbayya7elo, we responded to you.  that answer is probably your problem
[06:19] <elbayya7elo> Is the problem with the program
[06:19] <wes332> no
[06:20] <elbayya7elo> Because I followed the tutorial step by step and it didn't work
[06:20] <CPF0000> I'm gonna be pissed if i386 works
[06:21] <fidel> wilee-nilee: yep i know that keycombo - whyever it isnt offering the alt-f2 dialog anymore (talking about a virtual install here)
[06:22] <wes332> in your user's home directory theres a file called .profile and it's messed up
[06:22] <wilee-nilee> fidel, Virtual should run the same, is it the gnome fall back
[06:22] <EdMarx> when you rebooted what happened
[06:22] <wes332> find @echooff and change it to @echo off
[06:22] <elbayya7elo> How
[06:23] <somsip> !who | wes332
[06:23] <fidel> wilee-nilee: anyway - executing gnome-shell --replace doesnt change it
[06:23] <elbayya7elo> Should I reformat the pc??
[06:23] <fidel> wilee-nilee: so i doubt alt+f2 -> r would help ;)
[06:23] <wilee-nilee> fidel, This vbox it does use its own drivers so that may be the problem, but I have run it in vbox with no problems.
[06:24] <EdMarx> wilee-nilee: what is !tab
[06:24] <EdMarx>
[06:24] <fidel> wilee-nilee: its vmware in my case
[06:24] <wes332> EdMarx, it triggers a bot to autorespond
[06:24] <fidel> wilee-nilee: and it worked before the last updates ..but anyway ignore it. gonna find some other ways to continue testing
[06:25] <wilee-nilee> fidel, Ah well you might ask them #vmware
[06:25] <wilee-nilee> fidel, This 12.10?
[06:25] <fidel> wilee-nilee: yep -> #ubuntu+1 ?
[06:26] <wilee-nilee> ugh
[06:26] <EdMarx> Ok first day to IRC here. Isn't there an easy way to reply to a user?
[06:26] <fidel> EdMarx: start typing the first letters of the username + TAB-key
[06:26] <fidel> i.e. fid + TAB -> fidel
[06:26] <EdMarx> fidel: ohhhh nice
[06:27] <EdMarx> fidel: thanks
[06:27] <EdMarx> elbayya7elo: are you finding solutions?
[06:28] <elbayya7elo> No
[06:28] <Abbas|> god
[06:28] <fidel> EdMarx: additional pointers: do read channel topics - as they often have a reason ;)
[06:28] <Abbas|> its such a pain to setup basic vpn on ubuntu12
[06:28] <fidel> EdMarx: have fun
[06:28] <Abbas|> i setup squid somehow with my n00b win7 skills
[06:28] <Abbas|> but vpn still wont work
[06:29] <wes332> Abbas|, are you using IPsec?
[06:29] <Abbas|> just pptn
[06:29] <Abbas|> the vpn site manual says basic stuff which i follow
[06:29] <Abbas|> username/pass
[06:29] <Abbas|> pptn type, and checking a box in advnaced field
[06:29] <EdMarx> elbayya7elo: so you want to install ubuntu on usb, you reboot and it boots into win?
[06:29] <wes332> ok nm ive never used pptn
[06:29] <EdMarx> fidel: thanks
[06:29] <Abbas|> only thing im unsure about is NT DOmain field in vpn window
[06:30] <alusion> Does anyone here have experience with mumble / voip?
[06:30] <Abbas|> allusion i've used mumble
[06:30] <elbayya7elo> Noo
[06:30] <Abbas|> on windows htough
[06:30] <wes332> alusion, what about voip?
[06:30] <EdMarx> elbayya7elo: what then
[06:30] <elbayya7elo> Ive installed it normally
[06:30] <elbayya7elo> And it works
[06:30] <alusion> I want to set up a VOIP server that I can use with iphones / android
[06:30] <EdMarx> elbayya7elo: oh
[06:30] <elbayya7elo> But when I wanna run a program
[06:30] <alusion> via linux... [?]
[06:30] <elbayya7elo> It gives me lines
[06:31] <elbayya7elo> First one @echooff
[06:31] <elbayya7elo> I dont know what else
[06:31] <Abbas|> wes332
[06:31] <Abbas|> nevm
[06:31] <Abbas|> i was beign an idiot
[06:31] <Abbas|> copying an old pass from email
[06:31] <FloodBot1> Abbas|: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:31] <Abbas|> instead of the simpler pass i setup early
[06:31] <Abbas|> lol FloodBot1, sry
[06:32] <elbayya7elo> I folowed the tutorial but it didn't work
[06:32] <wes332> Abbas|, its all good dog lol
[06:32] <wes332> alusion, sure have you ever set up an astrix server?
[06:32] <Abbas|> is there a small app that shows downl/upload speed in taskbar?
[06:32] <Abbas|> like DU meter on win7
[06:32] <elbayya7elo> Clear
[06:33] <wes332> another thing to check out is Trixbox alusion.  that is what i use at my house
[06:33] <juanopsy> hey
[06:33] <wes332> it is like a OS for VOIP stuff
[06:33] <EdMarx> elbayya7elo: ok sorry. Allow me to be another person who cannot help then :-(
[06:34] <elbayya7elo> Shit......now I have to go back to windows
[06:34] <wes332> elbayya7elo, it's probably for the best
[06:34] <elbayya7elo> I hate windows
[06:34] <elbayya7elo> I wanna stay on linux
[06:34] <alusion> astrix and Trixbox eh wes332 ?
[06:35] <LorSamPau_w> elbayya7elo, u can use another distribution
[06:36] <juanopsy> help plz, I'm tring to boot from a usb stick tried every usb boot installer AKA lili, yumi, universal usb inst, unetbootin.... and every time comes harder.. from not recognicing the boot file, to remove the hardware.. any insigt??
[06:36] <wes332> alusion, yes it has many different ways for handling various VOIP protocols
[06:36] <wes332> like h323 sip tsip
[06:38] <wes332> juanopsy, make sure you have that n32whatever binary in there and that the bios is set to boot usb
[06:39] <wes332> then make sure grub is pointing to the right places for the kernel and ramdisk
[06:40] <wes332> if you are using ubuntu, make sure the casper directory is also correctly pointed in grub
[06:41] <redwarriors25_> how to mount files
[06:42] <wes332> that question is too vagues
[06:42] <wes332> ugh this channel is a nightmare
[06:42] <wes332> goodbye
[06:43] <juanopsy> wes332, sure chek that.. some said that may be the fat32 not being recognice for the old bios... but when tring to instal the usblive on the flash formated on exfat it gives an error on the syslinux instalation.. sais won't be bootable...
[06:43] <malkauns> is there any way to get apps launched from terminal to use the system proxy settings?
[06:45] <Abbas|> so guys, im trying to redirect TVs-intenet via this ubuntu-squid setup. squid is alreayd setup and i can use it as proxy from my android mobile. but when i try to do internet setup on the TV, it shows ok for LAN, but failed for internet.
[06:45] <Abbas|> Squid logs show the ssm1.internet.sony.tv:443 connections
[06:45] <Abbas|> and DIRECT/<IP_ADDRESS> connects but not sure if anything's passing through squid or not
[06:46] <Abbas|> does squid allow the 443 ports etc?
[06:47] <Guest98561> hmmmmmmmm
[06:47] <tenX_> Abbas|: basically yes
[06:47] <somsip> Abbas|: this is quite a specialised question rather than one that directly relates to ubuntu. Maybe you should try to get some help from a suqid resource
[06:47] <Abbas|> somsip, i'll look around :D however im a n00b, its a miracle i somehow setup squid and am able to browse through the log/config files
[06:47] <Abbas|> hehe
[06:48] <apatters> Hi, I installed Ubuntu on a netbook and it is a bit slow, is there  a way for me to install the Lubuntu environment inside this same copy of ubuntu and log into that? I read that this used to be possible (see http://ubuntuhelp.tumblr.com/post/1301847558/is-there-a-way-i-can-switch-from-my-installed-regular describes exactly what i want)
[06:49] <somsip> apatters: you can install lubuntu-desktop and then log into that as an option when you login
[06:49] <LorSamPau_w> apatters, just install and log out
[06:50] <apatters> that's exactly what i want but i don't see lubuntu-desktop in Ubuntu Software Center
[06:50] <somsip> apatters: If you're on 12.04 - http://complete-concrete-concise.com/ubuntu-2/ubuntu-12-04/ubuntu-12-04-how-to-install-the-lubuntu-desktop
[06:52] <apatters> thanks, lubuntu-desktop was not showing up in the software center for some reason, but i can just install via command line
[06:52] <somsip> apatters: zactly
[06:58] <helder_raptor> suggest me a good start level python app for reading code
[06:58] <helder_raptor> suggest me a good start level python app for reading code
[06:59] <somsip> helder_raptor: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/81584/what-ide-to-use-for-python
[07:02] <helder_raptor> somsip: u dodnt get me
[07:02] <somsip> helder_raptor: clearly
[07:03] <helder_raptor> i actually want a python app that is open source and i can read its code and the complexity level of the app will be beginner.
[07:03] <helder_raptor> somsip: By the way thanks for the IDE info
[07:04] <somsip> helder_raptor: helder_raptor maybe something here. There are guides and some simple looking packages https://github.com/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=python&type=Everything&repo=&langOverride=&start_value=1
[07:07] <Eagleman> E: Unable to locate package ldapsearch
[07:07] <helder_raptor> and something for bug fixing
[07:08] <elsa3adiin> ./Setup.bat: line 1: @ECHO: command not found
[07:08] <elsa3adiin> ./Setup.bat: line 2: setlocal: command not found
[07:08] <elsa3adiin> ./Setup.bat: line 4: syntax error near unexpected token `=='
[07:08] <elsa3adiin> ./Setup.bat: line 4: `if (%1)==(0) goto skipme'
[07:08] <somsip> !pastebin | elsa3adiin
[07:08] <elsa3adiin> anyone know waht they mean
[07:09] <roi1979> Hi all, I've come to really like the auto-resize feature (drag windog to screen edge) - but this feature seems not to be supported on unity2d?
[07:09] <elsa3adiin> i went into paste bin they told me theres to much pressuere
[07:09] <somsip> elsa3adiin: paste the whole file in pastebin
[07:09] <elsa3adiin> Pastebin.com is under heavy load right now :'(
[07:09] <somsip> !topic
[07:09] <elsa3adiin> thats what its telling me
[07:10] <elsa3adiin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1261422/
[07:10] <elsa3adiin> ok here it is
[07:11] <somsip> elsa3adiin: paste the file, not the errors
[07:11] <elsa3adiin> does anyone know aht the problem is?
[07:11] <elsa3adiin> the file that im trying to open?
[07:11] <somsip> elsa3adiin: Setup.bat
[07:11] <elsa3adiin> yeah
[07:12] <elsa3adiin> thats the one
[07:12] <elsa3adiin> do u want it
[07:12] <elsa3adiin> ?
[07:12] <FloodBot1> elsa3adiin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:12] <somsip> elsa3adiin: well, you could paste another file but that probably is a waste of time
[07:12] <elsa3adiin> do u mean u want the file?
[07:12] <elsa3adiin> or not
[07:12] <somsip> elsa3adiin: pastebim it. Or you can find someone else to help you
[07:12] <elsa3adiin> i did
[07:13] <LorSamPau_w> elsa3adiin, are you using windows *bat file?
[07:13] <elsa3adiin> i dont think so
[07:15] <LorSamPau_w> bat - is a windows batch file
[07:16] <elsa3adiin> seriously
[07:17] <elsa3adiin> that means ive downloaded the wrong version
[07:24] <mao> PCIe device does not support S.M.A.R.T command, right ?
[07:26] <elsa3adiin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1261443/
[07:26] <elsa3adiin> how can i include it into my path?
[07:26] <elsa3adiin> i already have it
[07:27] <somsip> elsa3adiin: Is this adndroid debugger?
[07:27] <elsa3adiin> yeah
[07:28] <elsa3adiin> any help?
[07:28] <somsip> elsa3adiin: Add something like this to your .bash_aliases, but you may need to change the usr/local part "PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/android-sdk-linux/tools"
[07:28] <somsip> elsa3adiin: of wait a minute will you - I was typing
[07:29] <elsa3adiin> lol what did i type/
[07:29] <somsip> elsa3adiin: you also need to add other settings like these http://paste.ubuntu.com/1261445/
[07:29] <elsa3adiin> ok thank you
[07:29] <somsip> elsa3adiin: you show a lack of patience when you repeatedly ask for help when I am trying to answer your question. chill
[07:36] <leotr> hi! are there success stories of using ubuntu as kiosk os?
[07:37] <Martell> Hello, how to make the unnallocated space available to be used, my ubuntu is 200gb and i have unnalocated space 230gb , i want to use that space to install another os
[07:37] <andres_> hello! I want to grant permissions to read/write to a user to ONLY A SUBTREE of an externally mounted NTFS drive, mounted in /mnt/Iomega
[07:37] <ardchoille> Martell: I thought we resolved that
[07:37] <andres_> Martell if it is unallocated you can already use it
[07:37] <Martell> ardchoille: i forgot that
[07:37] <andres_> just install the other OS in the unallocated space
[07:38] <somsip> Martell: use something like gparted to create a new partition...but I see other have sorted you already
[07:38] <andres_> with the new OS installation CD
[07:38] <ardchoille> Martell: use the ubuntu installer to install to that unallocated space, simple
[07:38] <jpds> leotr: Are you looking at deploying your own?
[07:38] <andres_> Can anyone help me with setting permissions to a subtree of a NTFS external drive?
[07:38] <andres_> is that even possible?
[07:38] <Martell> i want to install windows after ubuntu, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[07:38] <Martell> but it doesnt help much
[07:39] <cfhowlett> Martell: you'll need to restore grub to get ubuntu booted
[07:39] <Martell> i have grub1.99 , is it grub2 ?
[07:39] <ardchoille> Martell: if you install Windows after ubuntu Windows will wipe the entire HDD and install itself, forcing you to reinstall ubuntu anyway
[07:39] <andres_> ardchoille that's not accurate
[07:39] <Martell> ardchoille : really? but the https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot said you can
[07:39] <andres_> nope not true
[07:39] <cfhowlett> ardchoille: nope.
[07:39] <andres_> it will install in its own partition
[07:39] <ardchoille> ok, I stand corrected
[07:40] <andres_> but you will have to reinstall grub
[07:40] <andres_> because windows will change the MBR
[07:40] <ardchoille> Forgive me, I haven't used Windows in 10 years, didn't think it would change much
[07:40] <andres_> the master boot record
[07:40] <Martell> how do i reinstall grub after i install Windows on it
[07:40] <andres_> with the ubuntu installation cd
[07:40] <cfhowlett> !grub|Martell:
[07:40] <andres_> search in internet grub-install
[07:40] <andres_> or reinstalling grub
[07:40] <andres_> or something like that
[07:41] <ardchoille> I love this channel :) Always teaching me new things :)
[07:41] <andres_> notice how I said: search internet
[07:41] <andres_> not google something
[07:41] <andres_> there indeed exist web search engines other than google
[07:41] <andres_> ^_^
[07:41] <andres_> like duckduckgo
[07:41] <andres_> :)
[07:41] <FloodBot1> andres_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:41] <Martell> with ubuntu installation cd, i can get to the ubuntu partition?
[07:41] <Martell> so i can reinstall the grub
[07:42] <andres_> whoops ^_^ sorry... long time since I used IRC :P
[07:42] <cfhowlett> Martell: yes
[07:42] <andres_> Martell you dont need to install grub in the ubuntu partition
[07:42] <Martell> ah ok, i thought ubuntu installation cd only use its own space
[07:42] <Martell> eh?
[07:42] <andres_> you install it in the Master boot recrord of the disk
[07:42] <andres_> for example
[07:42] <ardchoille> Martell: Sorry about that, it appears that I'm working off old info. Glad you found others to correct what I told you. Good luck
[07:43] <Martell> ardchoille: no hard feeling buddy, i love you still thanks
[07:43] <ardchoille> :)
[07:43] <andres_> if you have /dev/sdb  which is a disk... you have ubuntu in /dev/sdb1 and windows in /dev/sdb2 and something else on /dev/sdb3 (for example a swap partition)
[07:43] <andres_> when you reinstall windows it will install its loader in /dev/sdb
[07:43] <andres_> not 1 or 2 or anything... it is global to a disk
[07:44] <ardchoille> sdb is the disk, whereas sdb1 and sdb2 are partitions on that disk
[07:44] <andres_> and when you install the grub to /dev/sdb   (no numbers) you replace this loader. Now the only thing left is to tell the motherboard to boot from that disk
[07:44] <Martell> you can  only make 4 partition right, coz i can't create new partition from the unnallocated space
[07:44] <Martell> i have maxium 4 partition
[07:44] <Martell> maximum
[07:45] <andres_> the MoBo will look only in the MBR, where the loader (in this case GRUB) is located. Grub allows you to boot either from /sdb1 /sdb2... etc whereas the windows loader only allows you to boot his own partition
[07:45] <cfhowlett> Martell: you can make 4 PRIMARY parts.  You can make unlimited(?) logical parts.
[07:45] <andres_> you can make an extended partition
[07:45] <Martell> hold on let me online from my desktop
[07:45] <Martell> a sec
[07:46] <ardchoille> andres_: I seem to remember something called a logical partition. is that the same as extended?
[07:47] <andres_> I think an extended partition can hold any number of sub-logical partitions
[07:47] <andres_> extended is the container of logical partitions
[07:47] <ardchoille> ah
[07:47] <andres_> but I'm not sure... it's almost the same concept tho
[07:47] <ardchoille> can he just boot into the live cd and use gparted from there to take care of things?
[07:48] <andres_> sure
[07:48] <ardchoille> gotta love that live cd
[07:48] <andres_> gparted or kpartitionmanager handles ntfs just fine
[07:48] <ardchoille> kk
[07:48] <andres_> but its not needed tho
[07:48] <andres_> if he wants to install windows he can boot the CD and install it to the unallocated space
[07:48] <andres_> the windows installer also can make NTFS partitions in the unallocated space
[07:48] <ardchoille> Martell: at any rate, be sure to backup your files just in case
[07:49] <andres_> he just has to be careful not to erase the ubuntu partition
[07:49] <andres_> yeah ardchoille thats a nice piece of advice ;)
[07:49] <Yusuke> Hey buddies, heres the screenshot of gparted http://i.imgur.com/iJ51G.png
[07:49] <ardchoille> andres_: that is what he did to get him where he is, accidental erasure of Window
[07:49] <Yusuke> aight
[07:49] <Yusuke> :(
[07:50] <andres_> oh I see :S
[07:50] <ardchoille> andres_ Martell see the sda3? I believe that is where the Windows installer lives
[07:50] <ardchoille> he needs to be sure ubuntu doesn't overwrite sda3
[07:51] <Yusuke> yeah this desktop have its recovery partition but i can't get into it
[07:51] <andres_> Yusuke, recovery partitions usually are worthless
[07:51] <ardchoille> Yusuke: you should be able to press f3 or somet such key during boot to access that windows install env
[07:51] <andres_> but do you have a Windows CD?
[07:51] <andres_> If you don't you could consider completely switching to GNU/Linux
[07:52] <ardchoille> andres_: I don't think so, they shipped Windows installer in that sda3 partition
[07:52] <ardchoille> same thing with my netbook
[07:52] <Yusuke> well i bought this desktop preinstalled with windows 7, so i dont have the installation disc, but dont worry, i know *alternative*
[07:52] <andres_> well, then he should get support from his manufacturer
[07:52] <ardchoille> Yusuke: indeed, this is a great time to move to Ubuntu :)
[07:53] <andres_> well... if we are talking about illegal copies of windows... it doesn't bother me but you will have problems
[07:53] <ardchoille> I did that years ago and never looked back :)
[07:53] <Yusuke> but im not the one who use this desktop, my mom needs Office 2010 and Illustrator, so dualboot is the best option :(
[07:53] <ardchoille> ah, good point
[07:53] <andres_> Openoffice + inkscape ? =)
[07:53] <Yusuke> mom
[07:53] <Yusuke> what can you expect
[07:53] <elsa3adiin> where can i find this file?
[07:53] <andres_> my dad hardly can push the button to open the pc
[07:53] <elsa3adiin> .bash_aliases
[07:54] <andres_> and I managed to get him using kubuntu + ktorrent + openoffice etc
[07:54] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: it doesn't exist, you can put your aliases in .bashrc
[07:54] <somsip> elsa3adiin: home directory. /home/elsa3adiin or whatever.
[07:54] <andres_> it's not that hard... you just have to teach 'em
[07:54] <Yusuke> lol, btw lets get started, help me make partition on this unnallocated space :(
[07:54] <Yusuke> i use utorrent server
[07:54] <andres_> with gparted?
[07:54] <andres_> just click on it and say new partition :P
[07:54] <Yusuke> anything that work
[07:55] <andres_> and choose extended
[07:55] <Yusuke> you dont see the screenshot?
[07:55] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: open .bashrc and you'll see that there are some aliases there already
[07:55] <Yusuke> http://i.imgur.com/iJ51G.png
[07:55] <andres_> yup
[07:55] <andres_> ah ok
[07:55] <andres_> you need to remove a partition
[07:55] <andres_> in order to create the extended partition
[07:55] <Yusuke> so i remove this unnallocated space
[07:55] <ardchoille> his sda1 isn't being used, it looks like, so he may be able to remiove that one
[07:56] <andres_> nope, unallocated partition is not a partition
[07:56] <hex20dec> What do I have to press to boot into recovery on 12.04?
[07:56] <hex20dec> I keep pressing left shift and I see the word GRUB on the left most top for like a second and it disappears.
[07:56] <ardchoille> andres_: look at his sda1
[07:56] <andres_> Yusuke: I would remove either sda1 or sda3
[07:56] <andres_> maybe sda1
[07:56] <andres_> try that...
[07:56] <Yusuke> hex20dec, i thought 2nd option is a recovery mode in grub
[07:56] <elsa3adiin> i did what you tell me still same error
[07:57] <Yusuke> hold on
[07:57] <hex20dec> Yusuke: I can't even get to the list.
[07:57] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: what error are you getting
[07:57] <andres_> gotta go AFK for some minutes, BRB
[07:57] <somsip> elsa3adiin: after creating the alias you need to run it with ". .bash_aliases"
[07:58] <elsa3adiin> wait a sec i psted a couple of pathes
[07:58] <elsa3adiin> in .bash........
[07:58] <elsa3adiin> and saved it
[07:59] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: now you need to run: source ~/.bashrc
[07:59] <ardchoille> or relaunch the terminal
[07:59] <elsa3adiin> ok
[07:59] <Yusuke> ok i removed this sda1, now i want to make new partition, what filesystem should i use
[08:00] <ardchoille> Yusuke: he's AFK for a few
[08:00] <hex20dec> What do I have to press to boot into recovery on 12.04?
[08:00] <andres_> Yusuke: NTFS
[08:01] <elsa3adiin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1261468/ this is what i added to .bashrc
[08:01] <Yusuke> ok what other options should i edit
[08:02] <andres_> I think no other options
[08:02] <andres_> Well... wait a sec
[08:02] <andres_> If you wish to use other partitions inside windows
[08:02] <andres_> you should make an extended partition instead of NTFS
[08:02] <elsa3adiin> and still same error
[08:02] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: that isn't going to work because your path keeps changing before it's set
[08:02] <andres_> so you can make any number of NTFS partitions inside
[08:02] <igcek> hello... is there any problem if i take reading rights from fstab from normal users...
[08:02] <elsa3adiin> then waht should i do
[08:02] <elsa3adiin> ?
[08:03] <Womkes> Does anybody have any suggestion for a out-of-the-box Linux solution to monitor network traffic in a small-sized office (around 25 people)
[08:03] <elsa3adiin> what*
[08:03] <Womkes> We want to have some insight in bandwidth usage
[08:04] <Yusuke> andres_, aight so i clicked add, hold on lemme reboot, hope everything is fine
[08:04] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin:  export PATH=${PATH}:/home/Anonymous/android-sdk-linux:/usr/local/android-sdk-linux/tools
[08:04] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: your path variables need to be all one line
[08:04] <andres_> Yusuke: ok
[08:04] <elsa3adiin> ok
[08:04] <andres_> <3 IRC ... long time since I was here ^_^
[08:05] <elsa3adiin> still
[08:06] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: when I did android development I had the sdk and tools all in one place
[08:06] <elsa3adiin> i have it in platform tools
[08:06] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: in a terminal run: echo $PATH
[08:06] <ardchoille> and see what it returns
[08:07] <hex20dec> What do I have to press to boot into recovery on 12.04???
[08:07] <elsa3adiin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1261474/
[08:07] <elsa3adiin> this is it
[08:07] <elsa3adiin> ^
[08:07] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: and what is the error you're getting?
[08:08] <elsa3adiin> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1261476/
[08:08] <elsa3adiin> ^
[08:09] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: did you install the adb plugin in eclipse?
[08:09] <elsa3adiin> i dont think so
[08:09] <ardchoille> are you using eclipse to develop?
[08:10] <elsa3adiin> but what does it got to do with eclipse
[08:10] <elsa3adiin> ?
[08:10] <ardchoille> are you using eclipse?
[08:11] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: ^^
[08:12] <somsip> elsa3adiin: one path points to home/Anonymous and one points to usr/local
[08:12] <somsip> elsa3adiin: :/home/Anonymous/android-sdk-linux:/usr/local/android-sdk-linux/tools
[08:12] <somsip> elsa3adiin: make them both point to the correct path, use 'source .bash_aliases' again, and try again
[08:12] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: good tutorials for setting this up are here: http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html
[08:13] <ardchoille> somsip: he's also going to need the adb plugin or the sdk is going to be moot if he's using eclipse
[08:13] <elsa3adiin> i installed eclipse
[08:13] <somsip> ardchoille: that's one for later.
[08:13] <elsa3adiin> but not using it
[08:13] <somsip> ardchoille: so he's not using it. Not an issue.   Computing while angry doesn't yield optimal results or easy solutions...
[08:24] <jalexandru> I want to install vmware vsphere 5.1 cli, when I try to run vmware-install.pl I get an error msg: command not found but the file is there (I see the file with ls and also by mc) what can I do?
[08:24] <somsip> jalexandru: ./vmware-install.pl perhaps?
[08:25] <jalexandru> somsip: that was it .... Thanks a lot ...
[08:25] <somsip> jalexandru: np
[08:26] <Eagleman> How do i get the command id to work with ldap?
[08:27] <Elia> hi there
[08:31] <Abbas|> guys, is there no good way to forward port 443 via squid proxy?
[08:31] <Abbas|> someone tells me its application layer forwarding and wont work
[08:34] <elsa3adiin> so any fucken solutions?
[08:35] <elsa3adiin> this problem is really pisssing me off
[08:35] <martsvz2> Hi all, i've got a grub2 (and obviously ubuntu) related problem. I got a dmraid array, UEFI bios and Win8 dualboot with Ubuntu 12.04.  I managed to (default) boot to the grub2 efi bootmgr and chainloaded Win8 using by adding a menuentry in '/etc/grub.d/40_custom'. Unfortunately i'm now unable to hibernate in Win8, i'm guessing grub2 doesn't properly send the right info when chainloading the win8 bootmgr. Any ideas on how to fix this?
[08:35] <fidel> elsa3adiin: just a guess - it might make sense to reduce the ranting and adding some more informative bits -> otherwise it might be hard for ppl joining this chan even to offer help to you
[08:36] <elsa3adiin> they are helping me but the problem its NOT WORKING
[08:37] <cfhowlett> elsa3adiin: remember when I suggested you take a break?  This is why...
[08:37] <elsa3adiin> NO USE DUDE
[08:37] <ardchoille> elsa3adiin: sometimes when you take a break and clear your mind you come back to the problem with a new outlook and it helps
[08:38] <elsa3adiin> i wanna solve this damn problem they told me the right way so i did exactly what they said
[08:38] <elsa3adiin> and still nothing
[08:38] <elsa3adiin> i just feel like grabbing my pc and smash it into the wall
[08:39] <fidel> elsa3adiin: you still havent mentioned or redescribed your current issue ...but ok - seems like you want to RANT and not solve
[08:40] <elsa3adiin> im having this problem http://paste.ubuntu.com/1261511/
[08:40] <kop> fidel, somtimes the rant is the important first step
[08:40] <elsa3adiin> and its not getting solved
[08:40] <fidel> kop: but not in a support channel ;)
[08:40] <andres_> Yusuke
[08:40] <andres_> extended is working
[08:40] <fidel> kop: or at least not if the base is missing ;)
[08:40] <kop> support can come in many ways , listening is one of them
[08:41] <andres_> Yusuke: you have now an extended partition that can hold any number of NTFS partitions inside
[08:41] <elsa3adiin> any ideas?
[08:41] <EweR> Hello
[08:41] <fidel> !details | elsa3adiin
[08:42] <elsa3adiin> latest version 12.04
[08:42] <fidel> elsa3adiin: adb in general should work as far as i know - it did the last time i needed it on linux. could you feed us with some more infos?
[08:42] <kop> adb is unfamilliar , what does it belong to ?
[08:42] <fidel> kop: android
[08:42] <elsa3adiin> when i type ./Script.sh
[08:42] <elsa3adiin> it tells me that
[08:42] <fidel> kop: its part of the developer tools iirc
[08:42] <EweR> How to disable root on 12.04.. So that I used su sudo instead? On google I found only how to enable root, but not how to disable
[08:43] <kop> Ahhh  I still own a rotary phon that isn't very portable
[08:43] <fidel> used to move files from & to your device and tons of other core-functions
[08:43] <Martell> andres_, really amigo? so extended partition cannot be mounted?
[08:43] <elsa3adiin> i put the path in .bashrc
[08:43] <elsa3adiin> and as if i didnt do anything
[08:43] <fidel> elsa3adiin: what is the output of $PATH
[08:43] <andres_> Martell: yeah, an extended partition is not a mountable partition: doesn't hold any data
[08:43] <andres_> it is just for containing other partitions
[08:43] <fidel> elsa3adiin: and have you followed the install instructions of the dev-tools?
[08:44] <elsa3adiin> export PATH=${PATH}:/home/James/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools/adb
[08:44] <elsa3adiin> i put that in .bashrc
[08:44] <andres_> However the need of extended partitions will be overcome with the new booting systems in development: UEFI
[08:44] <kangancur> :D
[08:45] <llutz> elsa3adiin: wrong, path holds dirs only, so: export PATH=$PATH:/home/James/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools/
[08:45] <fidel> ;)
[08:45] <fidel> kop: and thats why ranting is not a part of support. starting with issue-details is ;)
[08:46] <Martell> andres_ , ok amigo lemme burning this winxp on usb first
[08:46] <schmo7000> hey guys.
[08:47] <notze> when will be folsom in th repository?
[08:47] <andres_> Martell: didn't know Windows XP could be burned to usb drives
[08:47] <elsa3adiin> still
[08:47] <andres_> at least officially ...
[08:47] <elsa3adiin> didnt work
[08:47] <elsa3adiin> i deleted the one i typed
[08:47] <elsa3adiin> adn put the one u gave me
[08:47] <llutz> elsa3adiin: "echo $PATH"
[08:47] <somsip> unignore elsa3adiin
[08:48] <schmo7000> lol
[08:48] <geirha> elsa3adiin: .bashrc is the wrong place to set PATH. You should set it in .profile instead. Though note that that file is used when you log in, so you need to relog to see the difference
[08:48] <Martell> andres_, yeah, you can with WinToFlash tool
[08:48] <kangancur> pada ngemeng apa kiye????
[08:48] <schmo7000> Anybody know anything about how Nautilus thumbnails?
[08:48] <fidel> kangancur: what is your native language?
[08:48] <andres_> is that officially supported by Microsoft? I'm just curious
[08:48] <Martell> kangancur, speak english not jowo
[08:48] <Martell> andres_, idk amigo
[08:48] <andres_> ;)
[08:48] <kangancur> hahahahaha
[08:48] <kangancur> ok
[08:49] <llutz> geirha: isn't ubuntu sourcing .bashrc in .profile by default?
[08:49] <geirha> llutz: yes, for interactive login shells
[08:49] <schmo7000> I've figured out how the bit about md5, ~/thumbnails, but I can't figure out the thumbs of /media/ the uri is apparently not file:///media/Metallica/Album Art.png
[08:49] <elsa3adiin> still
[08:50] <geirha> llutz: When you log in graphically, .bashrc won't be processed since .profile is A) not sourced by bash, and B) the shell that sources .profile is not interactive
[08:50] <schmo7000> so I don't know what path it's using for md5. It's something to do with how it accesses media mounts I guess.
[08:50] <elsa3adiin> where do i put it in profile or bashrc
[08:50] <geirha> elsa3adiin: .profile
[08:51] <elsa3adiin> ok
[08:51] <elsa3adiin> i put it
[08:51] <elsa3adiin> still no use
[08:51] <llutz> geirha: ok
[08:51] <schmo7000> oh.
[08:51] <geirha> elsa3adiin: And as I noted earlier, after changing .profile, you need to log in again to see the effect
[08:52] <elsa3adiin> shit
[08:52] <IdleOne> elsa3adiin: Please stop with the cursing
[08:53] <schmo7000> oh.
[08:53] <schmo7000> I figured it out.
[08:53] <schmo7000> It puts %20 in the spaces in the pathname.
[08:53] <geirha> elsa3adiin: Then afterwards, open a terminal and see what   type -a adb   outputs
[08:54] <schmo7000> So, like, if your CD is /media/Metallica is cool/Metallicachick.png it will md5 file:///media/Metallica%20is%20cool/Metallicachick.png and store the hash of this path in ~/.thumbnails/normal
[08:54] <mouse> I need help.  I reinstalled windows xp over win7 then I tried to install ubuntu 12.04.1 along side it but gparted shows my entire hard drive as unallocated.  I know this isn't true because windows is still it's correct partition size.  But what do I do to get gparted to see the rest of my hard drive?
[08:55] <schmo7000> I have a feeling nobody else will ever have this question.
[08:56] <schmo7000> I think it runs it through an escaping function call.
[08:57] <schmo7000> It would be helpful to know which one it is.
[08:57] <schmo7000> Probably something like thumbnail(md5(escape_uri(my_uri)))
[08:58] <geirha> schmo7000: I'm not sure what nautilus thumbnails is, but typically, for a launcher, %u will result in a url (which gui applications typically groks), and %f will result in a filename (that command-line tools can grok)
[08:58] <schmo7000> geirha, what accepts this %u parameter?
[08:59] <schmo7000> Oh. printf?
[08:59] <geirha> schmo7000: No, launchers (.desktop-files)
[09:00] <geirha> schmo7000: I don't know if that's used for your case though
[09:02] <geirha> schmo7000: At any rate, the best solution is to find a way to send your command a filename instead of an url in the first place. Converting an url back into a filename is very cumbersome
[09:02] <redwarriors25> how to fix grub
[09:02] <redwarriors25> ubuntu 8.04
[09:02] <phaidros> darn, between 2 and 4 weeks ago my network manager stopped working with wwan. only log related error I found: failed to enable/disable modem: (32) Failed to find a usable modem character set
[09:03] <phaidros> since it was working before, even with the actual 12.04 I wonder what could have happened and how to fix it ..
[09:03] <mouse> I need help.  I reinstalled windows xp over win7 then I tried to install ubuntu 12.04.1 along side it but gparted shows my entire hard drive as unallocated.  I know this isn't true because windows is still it's correct partition size.  But what do I do to get gparted to see the rest of my hard drive?
[09:03] <schmo7000> hmm.
[09:03] <phaidros> mouse: what kind of partition table? gpt?
[09:04] <cfhowlett> mouse: gparted cannot handle gpt.
[09:04] <mouse> what's gpt?
[09:04] <kangancur_> hhh
[09:05] <cfhowlett> mouse: a type of partitioning scheme.  Your hdd properties should show MBR not GPT ...
[09:05] <garymc> Hi guys I know this aint the correct room but I have an LTSP server setup using Ubuntu. I changed the router for internet because the old one failed. Everything is working fine but my FAT clients dont get internet access after booting up
[09:05] <phaidros> mouse: efi compliant partition table .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
[09:06] <schmo7000> geirha, it seems that when you create a shortcut using nautilus it stores a uri.
[09:06] <garymc> is it the IP route?
[09:06] <phaidros> anyone an idea with modem-manger? stopped working .. :/
[09:06] <phaidros> where does nm store the PIN of the SIM card, btw?
[09:07] <mouse> cfhowlett, phaidros gparted originally setup this partition table and it used to be able to read it before I installed windows xp.  did xp change the partition table?
[09:07] <phaidros> mouse: no clue, sry
[09:08] <cfhowlett> mouse: xp would want an MBR table and could have changed it.
[09:09] <mouse> cfhowlett, but it was already mbr
[09:09] <cfhowlett> mouse: you need to find out what it is now.
[09:09] <mouse> okay if it's not mbr now then how do I get it back to mbr?
[09:09] <aneek> my ubuntu is hanging  so much
[09:09] <mouse> cfhowlett, how do I do that?
[09:10] <aneek> can any one suggest what to do
[09:10] <cfhowlett> mouse: wait 1
[09:10] <RealOpty> ello, so any suggestions on howto: mount my ext4 partition  automatically without using fstab?
[09:10] <phaidros> aneek: I can't see. anyone an idea?
[09:10] <aneek> phaidros then why we are here
[09:11] <Martell> aneek, maybe you can tell when its hanging, when you login or, when you open firefox maybe, or etc.
[09:11] <phaidros> aneek: listen to Martell ;)
[09:11] <aneek> when i m loggin
[09:11] <phaidros> aneek: please use proper English.
[09:12] <cfhowlett> mouse: you should have a disk utility tool.  Highlight your HDD and display properties.
[09:12] <Martell> check your startup programs, uncheck those that are not necessary
[09:12] <aneek> when i am login on my account entire desktop is hanging
[09:12] <aneek> and all icons applications working slow
[09:12] <aneek> and responding late
[09:12] <redwarriors25> hyow can i fix the 8.04 ubuntu
[09:13] <phaidros> aneek: are you arunning "Ubuntu" or "Ubuntu 2d" desktop?
[09:13] <martsvz2> Since i'm using grub (EFI mode) i can't return from hibernate in Win8. Any ideas?
[09:13] <cfhowlett> redwarriors25: 8.04 is already end of life.  upgrade.
[09:13] <phax> hi guys, i have a workstation without a monitor and i want to use the monitor of a laptop running Ubuntu for displaying that...how can i go about it..thanks in advance?
[09:13] <kyubutsu> aneek: could be a video driver issue. when was last time you updated your system?
[09:13] <mouse> cfhowlett, do you mean while in xp?
[09:13] <redwarriors25> but theres a file there
[09:13] <phaidros> aneek: it sounds like your system is missing acceleration (OepnGL)
[09:13] <redwarriors25> and important
[09:14] <cfhowlett> mouse: nope.  you have an ubuntu boot disk?
[09:14] <mouse> cfhowlett, yeah one second while I boot from it again
[09:14] <phaidros> redwarriors25: download grml rescue cd or any live cd, boot your system, get the files of and reinstall/upgrade the system to a recent linux
[09:14] <cfhowlett> redwarriors25: you need to save a data file?  boot a CD, copy the file to CDROM ...
[09:14] <iDangerMouse> mouse: Are you related to me?
[09:14] <phaidros> s/boot the system/boot the system with the live cd/
[09:15] <phaidros> cfhowlett: how does one copy files to CDROM ? :)
[09:15] <cfhowlett> phaidros: urrrr, ummm, *google it!*
[09:16] <mouse> iDangerMouse, despite my current situation no
[09:16] <cfhowlett> phaidros: you're right, tho.  sorry.
[09:16] <iDangerMouse> mouse: cheers.
[09:16] <phaidros> cfhowlett: either your burn stuff to a CD-W/RW, not a CD*ROM* (ROM = Read Only Memory) ;)
[09:16] <redwarriors25> i cant open the ubuntu 8.04 desktop
[09:17] <phaidros> redwarriors25: boot a rescue/live CD
[09:17] <gordonjcp> phax: VNC, or something like "export DISPLAY=<ip of laptop>:0" before starting an X app
[09:17] <gordonjcp> phax: using GUI apps over a network never really works well
[09:17] <phaidros> where does netwrok manager store SIM PINs ?
[09:17] <redwarriors25> is there any live cd for 8.04
[09:18] <mouse> cfhowlett, if the partition table is gpt will I lose all my files when it was switched from mbr?
[09:18] <phaidros> redwarriors25: no, take a recent live CD. Just download the actual Ubuntu Desktop CD
[09:18] <phaidros> mouse: yes
[09:18] <t432> My home directory is almost full, how can I check what taking up all that space? I did a manual check and largest file i can find is 8 gig and others are just docs
[09:18] <phax> gordonjcp: if i don't use the network, can i not use the monitor cable and switch the laptop monitor to show the workstation display?
[09:18] <cfhowlett> mouse: i converted my gpt to mbr without loss
[09:19] <phaidros> t432: "df -h" shows the usage of the mount points. in /home/user try "du -sh *"
[09:19] <mouse> cfhowlett, Thank you so much.  If you can get me out of this without losing files I'll love you forever.
[09:19] <cfhowlett> ...
[09:19] <cfhowlett> mouse: trying to find the link ...
[09:20] <martsvz2> Since i'm using the grub bootloader (and ubuntu 12.04) hibernate stopped working on Windows. Any ideas?
[09:20] <kyubutsu> 8.04 is no longer supported. End of life date : May 12, 2011
[09:21] <ThinkT510> kyubutsu: 8.04 is still supported on servers
[09:21] <cfhowlett> mouse: ok, here come links...
[09:21] <cfhowlett>  mouse http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/26203-convert-gpt-disk-mbr-disk.html
[09:21] <redwarriors25> how can i fix no gui for 8.04 ubuntu
[09:21] <cfhowlett> http://www.dynamic-disk.com/resource/convert-GPT-disk-to-MBR.html
[09:22] <cfhowlett> mouse http://www.ehow.com/how_12119053_convert-gpt-mbr-linux.html
[09:22] <kyubutsu> ThinkT510: server isn't desktop
[09:22] <ThinkT510> redwarriors25: kyubutsu told you already, desktop support has ended
[09:22] <phaidros> redwarriors25: there is no easy way to fix it and as it is very old software nobody wants to bother with it anymore. further, it is not recommended to use that anymore for desktops
[09:23] <ThinkT510> kyubutsu: sorry, only just joined
[09:23] <phaidros> redwarriors25: as I said before, get your data of the machine and upgrade/reinstall to a supported version (12.04 LTS or 12.10)
[09:23] <phaidros> where does network manager store the PIN of a SIM card
[09:23] <phaidros> ?
[09:23] <ThinkT510> phaidros: 12.10 isn't supported here yet
[09:23] <cfhowlett> redwarriors25: suggest you stick with 12.04 and upgrade LTS only.
[09:24] <phaidros> got it: /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/$connection
[09:24] <phaidros> ThinkT510: oops. My bad. Sorry.
[09:28] <redwarriors25> the problem is how can i upgrade if theres a files there
[09:32] <ThinkT510> redwarriors25: backup what you need
[09:32] <redwarriors25> how
[09:33] <ThinkT510> !backup | redwarriors25
[09:33] <cfhowlett> redwarriors25: usb
[09:34] <webprojectx> what about an encrypted Macintosh HD =D ?
[09:34] <ThinkT510> redwarriors25: i always use a seperate partition to store my files on so whenever i reinstall my files are all seperate from my os
[09:34] <phaidros> redwarriors25: last time: download a live CD, boot it and move your data to a USB stick or USB hdd. afterwards upgrade/reinstall (to) a recent Ubuntu version
[09:34] <phaidros> redwarriors25: you can create a bootable USB stick as well. look for gtk-usb-creator or unetbootin
[09:35] <phaidros> webprojectx: ?
[09:36] <phaidros> where to as for networm-manager/modem-manager problems? I believe #gnome won't be the right place, as we are running unity after all .. :/
[09:36] <mouse> cfhowlett, apt-cache search can't find gdisk
[09:36] <kyubutsu> unless you don't have any significant data you want to save. you're the judge of that. the point is: always make copies of your important files
[09:37] <phaidros> mouse: aptitude search gdisk on 12.04 yields: p   gdisk                                                                              - GPT fdisk text-mode partitioning tool
[09:37] <cfhowlett> mouse: enable "universe" repository
[09:37] <cfhowlett> mouse: apt-cache policy gdisk
[09:37] <cfhowlett> gdisk:
[09:37] <cfhowlett>   Installed: (none)
[09:37] <cfhowlett>   Candidate: 0.8.1-1build1
[09:37] <cfhowlett>   Version table:
[09:37] <cfhowlett>      0.8.1-1build1 0
[09:37] <FloodBot1> cfhowlett: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:38] <redwarriors25> for what use
[09:39] <mouse> cfhowlett, this new 12.04 is confusing me.  I can't find the package manager or software sources at all.
[09:40] <cfhowlett> mouse: update/settings
[09:40] <leotr> am i able to install package on live system?
[09:40] <cfhowlett> mouse: sorry I can't be more exact.  I'm on UbuntuStudio which has xubuntu foundation.  A little bit different ...
[09:41] <leotr> i tried  apt-get but package was not found
[09:41] <cfhowlett> !persistent|
[09:41] <mouse> cfhowlett, Ah there we go.  thank you.
[09:41] <kyubutsu> leotr: the 'live' environment runs from disk. therefore, it is temporary. so, no
[09:42] <kyubutsu> leotr: 'disk' as in 'cd'
[09:44] <kyubutsu> leotr: i take that back. i actually haven't tried such thing. but it stands to reason that even if you could, the changes will not be permanent
[09:44] <brainstoke> does anyone use a bluetooth keyboard here ?
[09:45] <leotr> kyubutsu: ok
[09:45] <mouse> okay it turns out my partition table was already mbr but for some reason gparted still reads it as unallowcated.
[09:45] <sssilver> Hello everyone. I need to control my mouse pointer using keyboard. I have enabled it an it works, however the speed is extremely slow. Is this adjustable, and how? Thanks.
[09:49] <kyubutsu> mouse: either way, mbr and partition type isn't the same thing. ntfs is the common windows partition and gparted can read it just fine. windows xp uses fat32(?) .. there might be a compatibility issue there
[09:50] <kyubutsu> windows xp is pretty old and there is no support for it even from microsoft themselves
[09:50] <mouse> kyubutsu, gparted says "warning: can't have overlapping partitions"
[09:51] <jud> problem..transmission is no longer associated with magnets for some reason?
[09:55] <diverdude> ehhm so i install php5 and it says: After this operation, 17.9 MB of additional disk space will be used. and immedietly after i remove it, and it says: After this operation, 21.5 kB disk space will be freed.  how does that make sense?
[09:55] <overbythere> diverdude: did it just install php5, or php5, apache-php5 etc etc
[09:56] <AdvoWork> in terminal, i'm doing ssh user@ip  is there a way I can name it, ie ssh user@whatever 'test server'  as when ive got multiple terminals open, its confusing as hell
[09:56] <kyubutsu> diverdude: it's just simple math. carry on..
[09:56] <fidel> diverdude: wild guess: you havent fully removed it - you just used remove right?
[09:56] <diverdude> overbythere: hmm ok by doing apt-get autoremove it removed the rest i think
[09:56] <somsip> AdvoWork: personally, I set all of my servers with $PS1 that shows the server name
[09:57] <cfhowlett> diverdude: apt-get purge ?
[09:57] <diverdude> yeah
[09:57] <aneek> i shared a folder from my ubuntu desktop ,when i try to access this from client machine through alt+f2 in run type smb://<IP_ADDRESS>
[09:57] <aneek> it is not showing anything
[09:58] <jud> associating transmission to magnets in firefox anyone?
[10:13] <dandre> Hello
[10:14] <cfhowlett> dandre: greetings
[10:14] <dandre> Since My last update, I can't launch  thunderbird, I get this error:
[10:14] <dandre> (thunderbird:4622): GLib-ERROR **: Creating pipes for GWakeup: Trop de fichiers ouverts
[10:15] <cfhowlett> !fr|dandre:
[10:15] <dandre> ok:
[10:15] <dandre> (2012-10-05 12:14:49) dandre: (thunderbird:4622): GLib-ERROR **: Creating pipes for GWakeup: Too many files opened
[10:16] <aum__> i want to setup snmpd and snmp agent i tried to follow several howto but failed to install it on my 12.04
[10:17] <jud> once upon a time I'd click the magnet torrent link and transmission would automatically download it. Now when I click a magnet, it tells me it can't do it because it's not associated with any program. I added some new lines in about:config to no avail.
[10:18] <mouse> I need help.  I reinstalled windows xp over win7 then I tried to install ubuntu 12.04.1 along side it but gparted shows my entire hard drive as unallocated and gives the error "can't have overlapping partitions".  What do I do to fix this?
[10:19] <mithran> hello how can i see all the previous commands typed in the terminal without using the arrow key
[10:20] <Laish> i am can't login as my user although i can with guest
[10:20] <llutz> mithran:  type "history"
[10:21] <Laish> using 12.04 with default settings
[10:21] <mithran> llutz: just history
[10:23] <jud> 9.1 karmic transmission-magnet association, firefox?
[10:23] <ThinkT510> jud: karmic is no longer supported
[10:24] <jud> ThinkT510: It use to work automatically..?
[10:29] <Anonymous> Hola
[10:29] <Guest91088> noooooo
[10:29] <Guest91088> porque
[10:29] <Guest91088> porqueeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[10:30] <Guest91088> que pasa primoooooooo
[10:30] <Guest91088> ,9
[10:30] <ejv> i was screaming that at 12.04.0 last weekend