[00:00] <red__> lol u what escott lol what swat?
[00:00] <red__> ok what do I need to install on mac?
[00:00] <escott> red__, its a gui for samba configuration. i don't know much about it, but it is suggesting in !samba
[00:01] <qin> red__: sudo apt-get install nast && sudo nast -i eth0 -m (-i wlan0 for wifi, this list machines on lan)
[00:01] <iLuvGirlz> i need help
[00:01] <th0r> red__: swat makes configuring samba a lot easier. For a new user I would suggest it
[00:01] <Logan_> !ask | iLuvGirlz
[00:02] <iLuvGirlz> alright the problem is that when I play any video the video would appear right over my internet broswer or any other window
[00:02] <mabes> where would I find upstart's logs?  Trying to create a new service and it doesn't start with "start new-service"
[00:02] <iLuvGirlz> its really annoying
[00:02] <MC8> Howdy, which is the simplest terminal text editor to use?
[00:02] <qin> MC8: nano
[00:03] <MSHughes> Nano
[00:03] <earthmeLon> What's the line that I can add to my .ssh/config file to prevent Public Key Authentication for a specific host?
[00:03] <MC8> ah, thanks. I should have remembered that
[00:04] <iLuvGirlz> does anyone know how to fix my video problem? the video(s) i play no matter which video program it would cover up my other app(s) and windows, like when I right click the video to open the menu options it is blocked by the video(its right underneath the video)
[00:05] <red__> qin i done that what u said
[00:05] <grekkos> does anyone know how I can allow a specific port on my ubuntu server? Would it be AppArmor that is blocking it? It's a non-sytem port (port > 1024)
[00:05] <grekkos> or a range of ports
[00:06] <MSHughes> iptables?
[00:06] <red__> time for a coffee
[00:06] <red__> shalom
[00:06] <escott> grekkos, do you have ufw enabled
[00:06] <grekkos> escott: how can I check?
[00:06] <hexacode> hey you guys...what exactly is this operator called  ">>"  . this is the cntext which i use it. echo "hello world" >> helloworld.txt
[00:06] <edbian> hexacode: append
[00:06] <grekkos> MSHughes: actually I'm not sure it's a default Ubuntu Server install I just set up
[00:06] <hexacode> thanks
[00:06] <earthmeLon> Whenever I connect to a new host, My computer attempts to use every public key that I have.  Is there a way to prevent this and only use public keys that I specify with a host in my .ssh/config file?
[00:06] <escott> grekkos, sudo iptables --list
[00:06] <grekkos> MSHughes: does iptables come with ubuntu by default?
[00:07] <iLuvGirlz> no one can help me?
[00:07] <[THC]AcidRain> not sure what its called. but it is append
[00:07] <MSHughes> grekkos, I believe so
[00:07] <[THC]AcidRain> grekkos
[00:07] <hexacode> edbian is that a bash operator?
[00:07] <edbian> hexacode: It's bash yes.
[00:07] <edbian> hexacode: Do you know what it does?
[00:07] <grekkos> escott: it says policy ACCEPT straight down the line
[00:08] <hexacode> yes...i just want to look up how it does it...does bash call an sbin program and pass the righthand side as an argument to the sbin utility?
[00:08] <iLuvGirlz> guys when I put any program over the video the video would still appear on top of it, its annoying, how do you stop it?
[00:08] <grekkos> escott: that should mean it should be accepting everything no? I can't even telnet on that port from within the network using the local ip
[00:08] <iLuvGirlz> the video would appear over every single program, menu etc
[00:08] <escott> iLuvGirlz, sounds like a problem with xv extension. what video card do you have?
[00:09] <hexacode> edbian does bash call an external program in sbin when u use the append operator? im not exacly sure how it works, but would like to know
[00:09] <edbian> hexacode: Well sbin programs are just programs that require root to run.  It probably has some things in bash that do file operations, those make system calls that do reads and write, those make drivers calls that spin the disk and stuff.
[00:09] <iLuvGirlz> ati 4250 mobility
[00:09] <hexacode> ah ok edbian, thanks
[00:10] <grekkos> escott: is it possible that apparmor is blocking something?
[00:10] <simpleblue> Simpy!! :D
[00:10] <iLuvGirlz> I also been installing some xv extensions maybe that is the problem?
[00:10] <simpleblue> Simpy!! :D
[00:10] <simpleblue> Simpy!! :D
[00:10] <FloodBot1> simpleblue: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:10] <edbian> hexacode: What is the bigger picture here?
[00:10] <hexacode> edbian  this is actually what im trying to do, but it wont work...someone told me to use the tee utility to do this     {  sudo echo "r3d2 \n root" >> /etc/cron.allow
[00:10] <escott> grekkos, i thought apparmor was more concerned with file paths, but yes i suppose it is possible
[00:10] <hexacode> oopd edbian ....take out the {
[00:10] <grekkos> escott: is it just read/write permission? I don't know if that could affect opening ports or anything like that for communication
[00:11] <RealKillaz> there is something NOTgood happening.... after an upgrade of the 10.04 LTS server I start getting a kernel panic..
[00:11] <grekkos> oh i think I may see the issue
[00:12] <grekkos> How can I check for communication of a specific port number without using telnet?
[00:12] <RealKillaz> Rioght now I'm reinstalling the system to pinpoint the problem... but how come a 10.04 LTS can give kernel panic can not mount fs after an update/upgrade?!
[00:12] <escott> iLuvGirlz, mplayer will allow you to specifically select the output format with the -vo option (mplayer -vo help) see if you can confirm it is xv
[00:12] <edbian> hexacode: The reason it doesn't work is because sudo applies to echo but it does not apply to >>
[00:12] <Jeruvy> grekkos: netcat or nc.
[00:13] <edbian> hexacode: I recommend: sudo nano /etc/cron.allow   and just type that stuff at the end
[00:13] <hexacode> edbian, whats the quivalent tee command that im trying to get at?
[00:13] <edbian> hexacode: I'm trying to look it up right now
[00:13] <hexacode> thanks
[00:13] <iLuvGirlz> i will try but i dont have mplayer it happens with any video player
[00:13] <grekkos> Jeruvy: thanks I'll take a look at it
[00:14] <escott> hexacode, echo | sudo tee filename
[00:14] <edbian> hexacode: echo 'whatever' | sudo tee /path/to/file
[00:14] <edbian> darnit!
[00:14]  * edbian is frustrated
[00:14] <edbian> hexacode: echo 'whatever' | sudo tee -a /path/to/file
[00:15] <edbian> hexacode: use -a to append instead of overwriting the entire file
[00:15] <simpleblue> sim
[00:16] <grekkos> Jeruvy: do you have an example on how to listen with nc? I'm trying nc -l -p 27015 and it's showing me usage i'm not sure what i'm missing
[00:17] <Jeruvy> grekkos: Thats not uncommon.  What are you trying to accomplish?
[00:17] <grekkos> Jeruvy: I want to check to make sure a firewall isn't blocking incoming traffic to my ubuntu machine on port 27015
[00:18] <qin> grekkos: Is it on lan?
[00:18] <Jeruvy> grekkos:  so you're checking externally?
[00:18] <grekkos> Jeruvy: qin I am checking it internally right now to see if it's a software firewall
[00:19] <grekkos> (or trying to)
[00:19] <hexacode> hey edbian i got dc'ed
[00:19] <hexacode> i dont know if you responded
[00:19] <edbian> hexacode: dc'ed?
[00:19] <shanebnetapp> use nmap
[00:19] <shanebnetapp> to check for open ports
[00:19] <hexacode> disconnected from irc
[00:20] <qin> grekkos: 2200 4567 open
[00:20] <Jeruvy> grekkos: so you have the right idea, remove the '-l'
[00:20] <edbian> hexacode: echo 'something' | sudo tee -a /path/to/file
[00:21] <grekkos> Jeruvy: does the same thing
[00:21] <qin> grekkos: is not nmap better?
[00:21] <grekkos> Jeruvy: do I have to listen on the host machine or I can just probe it like that from the other?
[00:21] <hexacode> edbian thanks
[00:21] <grekkos> qin: I don't know I haven't tried it yet, I've never actually used nmap except for a handful of occasions
[00:21] <edbian> hexacode: sure
[00:21] <Jeruvy> grekkos: nc works both ways.
[00:21] <edbian> grekkos: nmap can probe machines remotely (unless they're behind NAT or firewall)
[00:21] <howoriginalAU> Hi everyone :)
[00:22] <grekkos> qin: I also don't seem to have nmap on this machine right now
[00:22] <shanebnetapp> you can also nmap <IP_ADDRESS>
[00:22] <escott> grekkos, you can probe from the other computer, and can connect any firewalls that actively drop connections
[00:22] <edbian> grekkos: sudo apt-get install nmap
[00:22] <grekkos> edbian: this machine is mac os x but I can try macports, hold on
[00:22] <qin> grekkos: Start service, and scan server, also add ssh sever so if you get 22 open and other closed you know where is problem
[00:22] <escott> grekkos, rather nmap can detect firewalls that actively drop
[00:23] <grekkos> I really appreciate everyone's help, by the way
[00:23] <excognac> hi Getting very tired of reinstalling natty on  a laptop... Is there any way to sort out MISALIGNED partition without reinstalling?
[00:23] <tactical2> hi.  do you think ubuntu is realy for someone's grandparents
[00:23] <grekkos> qin: well actually I can connect on port 22, I'm sshed in right now
[00:23] <edbian> yes it really is
[00:23] <escott> excognac, gparted on the livecd can move the partitions
[00:24] <grekkos> lucky me, nmap doesn't have many dependencies
[00:24] <qin> grekkos: So, iptables -L and have a look what is there.
[00:24] <grekkos> qin: pretty much nothing, everything says ACCEPT
[00:24] <grekkos> qin: does that mean this is not a software firewall issue?
[00:24] <howoriginalAU> I've just installed Ubuntu for the first time (11.04) coming from Windows......and I just thought I'd ask - does it take long to get used to the interface?
[00:24] <qin> grekkos: Also, netstat -tulp on server to see if service is listening
[00:25] <iceroot> howoriginalAU: as long as in windows
[00:25] <grekkos> qin: well the broader scope of this issue is that I'm trying to run hlds (half life dedicated server) and HLDS is saying it cannot open the socket
[00:25] <edbian> howoriginalAU: The new interface is very new for everybody.  I don't think it takes long to get used to.  The CLI takes long to get used to.
[00:25] <howoriginalAU> edbian: oh I see. CLI is command line is it?
[00:25] <iLuvGirlz> how do you check if it is xv in mplayer?
[00:25] <edbian> howoriginalAU: yep
[00:25] <tactical2> does ubuntu work out-of-the-box with any modem?  e.g. a mobile-broadband modem
[00:25] <escott> grekkos, are you behind a nat
[00:25] <iLuvGirlz> i tried doing the help command but it\s not working
[00:26] <iceroot> tactical2: depending on the modem
[00:26] <grekkos> escott: I am behind a router which I've already configured to allow the ports
[00:26] <qin> grekkos: What sound like lack of permissions
[00:27] <grekkos> qin: permissions on the server to create a socket connection?
[00:27] <hexacode> hey you guys, im testing if i can write to a file from terminal, and i can; however, when i try to write a newline into a file, it doesnt work, its writes everything one one line ...whats up with this?  echo "line1 \n line2" >> testlines.txt
[00:27] <grekkos> qin: right now I created a new user to run the server but I haven't changed its permissions at all
[00:27] <Jaded> Hi.
[00:27] <escott> hexacode, echo -e
[00:28] <grekkos> hexacode: or add another blank echo >> file
[00:28] <iLuvGirlz> guys I have a current video problem where my videos no matter which ones I played would always appear over my windows or other app(s) and menus
[00:28] <hexacode> oh wow lol
[00:28] <Jaded> I'm trying to get flash to play @ 360p with no video lag, is this possible with 1ghz Duron and 768MB ram.
[00:28] <grekkos> hexacode: echo -e will evaluate any escape sequences like \t and \n
[00:28] <iceroot> Jaded: yes
[00:28] <hexacode> escott didnt think i had to supply an argument for that lol, oh well, kind of a wierd implementation
[00:28] <Jaded> ok
[00:28] <iceroot> Jaded: i am using it on a celeron 900 with 512mb ram
[00:28] <iLuvGirlz> does anyone know whats wrong?
[00:28] <grekkos> qin: nmap doesn't seem to be having much luck either (internally)
[00:29] <Jaded> I installed Xubuntu, setup the nvidia drivers and it still lags during video playback in both firefox and chromium
[00:29] <hexacode> Jaded
[00:29] <hexacode> flash player?
[00:29] <Jaded> um, adobe flash player
[00:29] <iLuvGirlz> would sending a screen shot help you guys solve my problem?
[00:30] <escott> iLuvGirlz, were you able to confirm if it was xv?
[00:30] <iLuvGirlz> i coulnt
[00:30] <hexacode> Jaded, i sometimes get crashes, you think its a bug?
[00:30] <iLuvGirlz> i have mplayer here
[00:30] <iLuvGirlz> just when I type the command nothing happens
[00:30] <escott> iLuvGirlz, try mplayer -vo x11 somefile.mov
[00:30] <edbian> flash player sucks on linux
[00:30] <grekkos> mhmm
[00:30] <tactical2> how old are the girls you love?
[00:31] <Jaded> I'm dual booting with XP
[00:31] <earthmeLon> I can SSH into my server just fine.  SSHFS is giving "Connection Reset by Peer" error.  Not sure whats up
[00:31] <grekkos> qin: escott the message I get from HLDS looks osmething like this, while not a standard OS message maybe you guys can make sense of the verbage: FATAL ERROR (shutting down): Couldn't allocate dedicated server IP port 27015.
[00:32] <iLuvGirlz> alright i got this MPlayer 1.0rc4-4.5.2 (C) 2000-2010 MPlayer Team
[00:32] <iLuvGirlz> mplayer: could not connect to socket
[00:32] <iLuvGirlz> mplayer: No such file or directory
[00:32] <iLuvGirlz> Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.
[00:32] <iLuvGirlz> Playing The.Real.Hustle.S01E07.avi.
[00:32] <iLuvGirlz> File not found: 'The.Real.Hustle.S01E07.avi'
[00:32] <iLuvGirlz> Failed to open The.Real.Hustle.S01E07.avi.
[00:32] <FloodBot1> iLuvGirlz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:32] <jrib> iLuvGirlz: the file doesn't exist
[00:32] <escott> iLuvGirlz, you have to cd into the folder with the video
[00:33] <hexacode> lol i know someone who got his forum hacked by someone who told him it would be nice to have a page that teaches people how to echo their user agent with php. he did, and then the hacker changed his user agent header to a file upload onto the server lol
[00:33] <Jaded> what crashes are you getting hexacode?
[00:33] <hexacode> Jaded chromium browser mainly, shockwave player crash, and sometimes it just stays blacked out
[00:34] <hexacode> Jaded, i have better luck with firefox and flash player than i do with chromium
[00:34] <escott> grekkos, thats not terribly helpful. you might try and see if you can get telnetd to bind on that port
[00:34] <iLuvGirlz> how would I do that lol? i am new to this
[00:34] <tactical2> iLuvGirlz, what kind of girls do you love
[00:34] <hexacode> chromiums implementation of flash is defninitely buggy, im not sure about firefox...actually, i remember an older version of firefox crashing
[00:35] <iLuvGirlz> the ones with pretty eyes
[00:35] <iLuvGirlz> and a good mind
[00:35] <hexacode> Jaded, what version of firefox are you using
[00:35] <tactical2> iLuvGirlz, your name sounds criminal
[00:35] <iLuvGirlz> it is
[00:35] <iLuvGirlz> well it was until now
[00:35] <tactical2> how old are you?
[00:35] <iLuvGirlz> underaged
[00:36] <iceroot> iLuvGirlz: what about vlc instead of mplayer?
[00:36] <iLuvGirlz> yes i have vlc
[00:37] <iLuvGirlz> same thing happens the video appears blocking my chat with you guys right now
[00:37] <grekkos> escott: here's a little bit better message maybe, which says essentially the same (again from HLDS) WARNING: UDP_OpenSocket: port: 27015  bind: Cannot assign requested address
[00:37] <escott> iceroot, the point of mplayer was to control the output format to x11 and not xv to identify a possible xv problem
[00:37] <grekkos> escott: i'm taking a look at telnetd now
[00:37] <iceroot> escott: ok
[00:37] <hexacode> hey you guys, what books should i read in order to better understand the unix operating system and how it manages resources and manages devices and their input and output? i want to be able to program and use the hardware, but i lack in the necessary programming skills, i can do much with software, but im not sure how to program with my hardware
[00:37] <iLuvGirlz> would a screenshot help?
[00:38] <tactical2> hexacode, why not just use windows
[00:38] <tactical2> you
[00:38] <bng> hi all, anyone here has experience with virtualization? Is Intel's VT-d dependent upon motherboard support?
[00:38] <iceroot> hexacode: http://lwn.net/Kernel/LDD3/
[00:38] <bjorn_248> hey can anyone give me a good curlpaste alternative for ubuntu? something in apt would be convenient
[00:38] <hexacode> tactical2 i want to program better...ive been wanting to do soe programming with images and sound formats, but i have no idea how to take microphone input and output raw sound to a speaker
[00:38] <hexacode> thanks iceroot, im goiing to bookmark that
[00:39] <iceroot> hexacode: with that book you lean a lot about the kernel and other hardcore stuff
[00:39] <escott> iLuvGirlz, when you open a terminal it puts you in /home/username. you need to cd /path/to/your/video/file then mplayer -vo x11 yourfilename.avi
[00:39] <qin> grekkos: You there
[00:39] <qin> ?
[00:40] <Starminn> Audacity doesn't pick any mic input up. The sound goes straight through to my system's speakers, but Audacity is missing it somehow.
[00:40] <iLuvGirlz> alright
[00:40] <grekkos> qin: yes
[00:42] <qin> grekkos: ok, sudo nc -l 27015 (so this we noe know), but since that is hl problem, need a bit more time.
[00:43] <Jaded> my firefox is 3.6.17
[00:43] <grekkos> qin: ah, that worked now
[00:43] <grekkos> qin: I listened with nc and probed it with nmap
[00:43] <TheLifelessOne> Is there any way to install GNOME without all the unneeded crap?
[00:43] <grekkos> qin: internally it shows as open, I'm going to do one external to just to check
[00:43] <TheLifelessOne> (like the games, the media players, all of that)
[00:44] <grekkos> qin: okay so it is having issues connecting from the outside
[00:44] <Starminn> TheLifelessOne: GNOME comes with software, just like KDE. The "GNOME desktop" package comes with that default software. No way to get around it IIRC. Same with KDE. It comes with crap.
[00:44] <grekkos> qin: it's possible HL is giving an error because the serverlist servers can't connect to me, let me see if I can get nmap to connect with the outside ip
[00:45] <TheLifelessOne> Starminn, seriously? I just want GNOME. :(
[00:45] <TheLifelessOne> Oh well. Thanks anyways. :/
[00:45] <hexacode> thanks so much iceroot....i actually downloaded this book before u showed me that http://www.amazon.com/Modern-Operating-Systems-Andrew-Tanenbaum/dp/0136006639/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1308267943&sr=8-1
[00:46] <hexacode> i dont thin its what i wanted lol
[00:46] <grekkos> qin: hmm, the ports are open on the router but it still won't go through...
[00:47] <iLuvGirlz> i have gotten no luck
[00:47] <iLuvGirlz> it keeps saying it does not exsist
[00:48] <iceroot> hexacode: andrew-tanenbaum is imo the guru for things like that
[00:48] <iLuvGirlz> /home/ray/Videos/Season_1/-vo x11 TRHS01E01.avibash: /home/ray/Videos/Season_1/-vo: No such file or directory
[00:48] <improveupon> anyone use mldonkey ?
[00:48] <grekkos> qin: I need to take a short break, if you come up with any ideas please send me a pm
[00:48] <iceroot> hexacode: you dont do anything wrong to read his books
[00:48] <qin> grekkos: Did you assigned it to right machine? http://www.justlinux.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-49529.html
[00:48] <hexacode> iceroot thanks
[00:49] <Jaded> I
[00:49] <Jaded> I'm  giving LXDE a go, if not, I'm downgrading to OpenBox or FlushBox
[00:49] <Jaded> :(
[00:50] <iceroot> hexacode: but i think "my" book is easier to understand, i only know the german version and it is great. and its for linux 2.6.x
[00:50] <hexacode> thanks iceroot im looking at the book right now
[00:50] <iLuvGirlz> alright postting a screen shot hope that will help you guys solve my problem
[00:50] <hexacode> im liking the table of contents
[00:51] <iLuvGirlz> http://img854.imageshack.us/i/videoproblem1.png/
[00:51] <iLuvGirlz> this is the problem
[00:52] <tactical2> iLuvGirlz, i konw what the problem is
[00:52] <tactical2> you should have zigged when you zagged
[00:52] <iLuvGirlz> ??
[00:52] <iLuvGirlz> so any soultions?
[00:52] <iLuvGirlz> solutions anyone?
[00:53] <caseys> i need some help editing a script
[00:53] <iLuvGirlz> the video appears right on top of everything as u can see
[00:53] <iceroot> caseys: maybe #bash  if it is a bash-script
[00:53] <iceroot> caseys: or is it an editor-problem?
[00:54] <caseys> its a shell script
[00:54] <iLuvGirlz> http://img854.imageshack.us/i/videoproblem1.png/ anyone know how to fix this?
[00:54] <qin> caseys: paste
[00:54] <caseys> its a simple problem
[00:54] <Starminn> In Ubuntu 10.10, Audacity is not picking up any external sound inout. Whatever I play is just relayed over my system speakers -- Audacity doesn't even know it's there.
[00:54] <caseys> if [ $REMAINING_RUNTIME != none ]; then
[00:54] <caseys>         RUNTIME="Remaining Runtime: $REMAINING_RUNTIME Seconds"
[00:54] <caseys> fi
[00:55] <caseys> i need to change it from secs to mins
[00:55] <qin> caseys: man bc
[00:55] <jimmie> Im not sure if anyone else uses Deluge, but does it always have to re-check files after a reboot, or is there a way to turn that off?
[00:55] <caseys> qin: whats that
[00:56] <iLuvGirlz> http://img854.imageshack.us/i/videoproblem1.png/ anyone solutions to fix my video problem?
[00:57] <earthmeLon> My mysql my.conf file has a bind address of localhost.  Does this prevent remote logins?
[00:57] <iLuvGirlz> the video keeps always stays on top of the windows
[00:57] <Jaded> can anyone help me troubleshoot why my cpu is on 99% when I'm playing flash videos on youtube?
[00:57] <iLuvGirlz> i dont know how to fix it
[00:57] <iLuvGirlz> Jaded do you have your video driver?
[00:58] <Jaded> using ubuntu with LXDE window manager and nvidia drivers
[00:58] <qin> caseys: easiest way to calculate in bash - bc
[00:58] <iLuvGirlz> is the nivdia drivers open or closed?
[00:58] <lostern> How do I edit passwd and group with a text editor? They seem to be protected somehow
[00:58] <iLuvGirlz> poor video drivers forces most of the work on the cpu
[00:58] <iLuvGirlz> or 3d accel is not enabled
[00:58] <Jaded> how do I list what IRQ's are being used by my PCI devices?
[00:58] <caseys> qin: so then what does the script need to be
[00:59] <caseys> jaded: what cpu is it?
[00:59] <iLuvGirlz> http://img854.imageshack.us/i/videoproblem1.png/ video stuck on top of windows how do you fix this???
[00:59] <israel> lostern: if u edit that youll have many problems
[00:59] <iLuvGirlz> the video will always stay on top unless I minizize it
[01:00] <iLuvGirlz> it appears over all apps etc
[01:00] <qin> caseys: or: http://pastebin.com/jxbCmaJU
[01:00] <lostern> israel: Thanks. How do I do it?
[01:00] <iLuvGirlz> even the menu would be covered
[01:00] <lostern> israel: I need to restore users/groups from another config
[01:01] <iLuvGirlz> no one can help me =(
[01:01] <rypervenche> iLuvGirlz: THat is a problem with flash. I have it too. I have never found a solution for it.
[01:01] <iLuvGirlz> its not a flash problem its a video I have on the hard drive
[01:02] <iLuvGirlz> this did not happen until i startyed installign video codecs
[01:02] <iLuvGirlz> so I dont what to do now
[01:02] <jasl> I'm generating a grid and want to add data to the cell that a mouse over and a single click could use to display details of the item referenced by the grid.  I have a formatter function but I'm not sure how to format the data and then where to find it in onCellMouseOver and onClick call
[01:02] <iLuvGirlz> how to to remove 3rd party video codecs?
[01:02] <jasl> I tried to add an object but it looks like the grid only accepts strings.
[01:02] <iLuvGirlz> maybe its conflicting with the orginal ones
[01:02] <rypervenche> iLuvGirlz: How did you install them?
[01:03] <iLuvGirlz> remove them
[01:03] <iLuvGirlz> i believe i installed more video codecs which are conflicting with each other
[01:03] <rypervenche> iLuvGirlz: but how did you install them?
[01:03] <iLuvGirlz> thats why the video is appearing over/ on top of my apps
[01:03] <iLuvGirlz> through the termial using commands i got on a website
[01:03] <iLuvGirlz> the sudo etc u know
[01:04] <rypervenche> iLuvGirlz: Well I can only help you if you find the site.
[01:04] <iLuvGirlz> oh this one
[01:04] <rypervenche> iLuvGirlz: And it shouldn't be a codec conflict.
[01:04] <grekkos> qin: yeah I already tried the debug flag, nothing shows up
[01:04] <iLuvGirlz> http://haflpastgeek.com/9-essential-things-you-should-do-after-installing-ubuntu-11-04-%E2%80%9Cnatty-narwhal%E2%80%9D.html
[01:04] <escott> iLuvGirlz, if your nickname were less offensive and you bothered to respond to people by name you might get more help
[01:04] <iLuvGirlz> go all the way down to VLC codec
[01:04] <Jaded> caseys: it's a duron 1ghz
[01:05] <jgpzen> Him being heterosexual is offensive?
[01:05] <caseys> qin: is this right RUNTIME="Remaining Runtime: $(($REMAINING_RUNTIME / 60)) Minutes"
[01:05] <shanebnetapp> what's offensive about liking girls?
[01:05] <iLuvGirlz> but i am a stranger in this land and i am afraid that you guys dont like me
[01:05] <Jaded> how do I test that the video drivers are poor?
[01:05] <iLuvGirlz> the stress test
[01:05] <iLuvGirlz> hmm
[01:05] <jgpzen> Stop loving girls.
[01:05] <iLuvGirlz> there are programs trhat test GPU/CPU
[01:05] <qin> caseys: Do not look nice, not sure.
[01:05] <Jaded> I'm going to crank open the bios and have a look
[01:06] <rypervenche> iLuvGirlz: Did you install that PPA?
[01:06] <iLuvGirlz> jqpzen that is hard :P
[01:06] <iLuvGirlz> all three of them
[01:06] <iLuvGirlz> i installed all three of those VLC codecs
[01:06] <iLuvGirlz> if i remove those it would fix my problem
[01:06] <iLuvGirlz> i believe
[01:06] <caseys> jaded: have you tried installing the lasest driver
[01:06] <rypervenche> iLuvGirlz: The codecs are fine. PPAs aren't supported here. The PPA could be the problem.
[01:06] <qin> caseys: You just add function, so you will get minutes and soconds.
[01:06] <jgpzen> That's what she said,
[01:07] <iLuvGirlz> how do i remove the PPA?
[01:07] <shanebnetapp> you can remove those the same way you installed them if you got them from the repos with apt-get
[01:07] <iLuvGirlz> but girls dont get hard!
[01:07] <shanebnetapp> sudo apt-get remove <package>
[01:07] <iLuvGirlz> wait...\
[01:07] <rypervenche> And with that comment, so ends my help to you.
[01:07] <iLuvGirlz> noooo!
[01:08] <iLuvGirlz> how do you remove PPA?
[01:08]  * jgpzen pinches rypervenche on the but
[01:08] <iLuvGirlz> and thank you shane
[01:08] <maco> iLuvGirlz: if you can't keep it kid-friendly, you can't play here
[01:08]  * rypervenche winks at jgpzen.
[01:08] <iLuvGirlz> alrighty i will now
[01:08] <grekkos> qin: I may have figured out why just now :)
[01:08] <iLuvGirlz> how do you remove PPA?
[01:09] <diytto> dpkg -r package.id.here
[01:09] <escott> iLuvGirlz, please "/nick a_more_appropriate_name" and please respond to people by name
[01:09] <qin> hm, how can I ignore lines to iLuvGirlz too? I know! trigger!
[01:09] <qin> grekkos: Tell me?
[01:09] <Jaded> Just set my bios to optimized defaults, and made a few changes too :)
[01:10] <Appropriate> woot
[01:10] <Appropriate> there
[01:10] <Appropriate> how do you remove that PPA?
[01:10] <diytto> :/
[01:10] <qin> !enter | Appropriate
[01:10] <grekkos> qin: The rule was set to allow UDP only on those ports
[01:11] <grekkos> qin: (in my router)
[01:11] <escott> !info ppa-purge | Appropriate
[01:11] <jgpzen> haha
[01:11] <jgpzen> Technically he's abiding now
[01:11] <excognac> Would cause any problem if I have a misaligned partition which does not exist just as the container for the actual ext4 root and swap?
[01:11] <qin> grekkos: Nice.
[01:11] <grekkos> qin: well actually I take that back, that alloed nmap to connect to nc but now the server itself still does not work
[01:12] <nit-wit> excognac, can you say that more clearly a non existing partition?
[01:12] <qin> grekkos: You need to make sure that all hl threads are down.
[01:12] <grekkos> qin: when i do ps aux|grep hld nothing comes up
[01:12] <grekkos> qin: except for grep...
[01:12] <Appropriate> ubottu: would you know how to fix this problem? http://img854.imageshack.us/content_round.php?page=done&l=img854/4170/videoproblem1.png
[01:13] <Appropriate> =(
[01:13] <cdavis_> How do you adjust the special effects of the desktop in natty?
[01:14] <escott> !ccsm | cdavis_
[01:14] <qin> grekkos: What is err now?
[01:15] <grekkos> qin: same error from HLDS, only now I can connect nmap to nc if I listen
[01:15] <escott> Appropriate, save a video file to your home folder. open a terminal and type: "mplayer -vo x11 the_video_file_name.avi" then try "mplayer -vo xv the_video_file_name.avi" I suspect the first will work the second will be broken
[01:15] <grekkos> qin: using the outside ip
[01:15] <lostern> Is there a way to get aptitude to ignore non-existant packages when trying to install multiple packages from the command line?
[01:15] <escott> cdavis_, be careful with the settings its possible to break unity
[01:15] <jimmie> Im not sure if anyone else uses Deluge, but does it always have to re-check files after a reboot, or is there a way to turn that off?
[01:15] <Appropriate> alright
[01:16] <cdavis_> escott: I want to reduce the eye candy because I cannto fgure out why playing a video in vlc is choppy
[01:16] <grekkos> qin: I think I will take a break from it for now and try again tomorrow
[01:17] <escott> cdavis_, well reducing the eyecandy shouldn't matter. its possible that removing the eye candy entirely and dropping back to !classic or !unity-2d would be better
[01:17] <grekkos> qin: I know for sure I've set this up successfully before but on an ubuntu 32 bit server, this time it's x64 i wonder if that's affecting it... I think it's still 32bit though
[01:17] <escott> cdavis_, but as long as the compositer is running your video is being redirected which might be the source of the choppiness
[01:17] <qin> grekkos: Try to have own server by then ;)
[01:18] <grekkos> qin: well this is my server ;p
[01:18] <LinuxPythonPeter> hi
[01:18] <LinuxPythonPeter> lol
[01:18] <grekkos> qin: I might just try installing a 32bit vm if I can't get it working
[01:18] <qin> grekkos: Can you paste err once more
[01:18] <Jaded> I seem to be hitting a wall here.
[01:18] <grekkos> WARNING: UDP_OpenSocket: port: 27015  bind: Cannot assign requested address
[01:18] <grekkos> FATAL ERROR (shutting down): Couldn't allocate dedicated server IP port 27015.
[01:19] <Jaded> I've created an xorg.conf file using nvidia X server
[01:19] <Jaded> do I need to add a line to enable acceleration ?
[01:19] <Starminn> In Ubuntu 10.10, Audacity is not picking up any external sound inout. Whatever I play is just relayed over my system speakers -- Audacity doesn't even know it's there.
[01:19] <grekkos> Jaded: XOrg was designed with many walls to run into
[01:19] <qin> grekkos: Ok, have a time to play a bit with this now ;) (Before going to play)
[01:20] <Jaded> lol
[01:20] <grekkos> Jaded: does it have a line something like Set Options Composite
[01:20] <grekkos> Jaded: (i forget the exact key)
[01:20] <grekkos> Jaded: I'm assuming if it's not there you'd have to add it, even if you generated it using the NVidia tool
[01:21] <LinuxPythonPeter> hi
[01:21] <LinuxPythonPeter> are any gud fps for teh linuxexs?
[01:21] <Jaded> but that's the thing, I don't know what line to add.
[01:21] <grekkos> LinuxPythonPeter: Quake3
[01:21] <Jaded> I'm trying to get smooth flash playback
[01:21] <grekkos> LinuxPythonPeter: for a recent version check ioquake3.org
[01:21] <qin> away
[01:21] <LinuxPythonPeter> What about that software center or whatever?
[01:22] <grekkos> LinuxPythonPeter: alternatively OpenArena (the same game but with free assets)
[01:22] <grekkos> LinuxPythonPeter: software center probably has OA
[01:22] <qin> LinuxPythonPeter: Urban Terror
[01:22] <LinuxPythonPeter> ok
[01:23] <LinuxPythonPeter> Just a question, but how do i get back to the #ubuntu tab after switching to firefox/chrome
[01:23] <grekkos> Jaded: well the composite extension is required for compiz, if you have that running it's loaded (or any other type of desktop compositing)
[01:23] <grekkos> LinuxPythonPeter: what IRC client are you using?
[01:23] <LinuxPythonPeter> empathy
[01:24] <LinuxPythonPeter> if i press on the #ubuntu under rooms it doesnt switch
[01:24] <grekkos> I've never used it before
[01:25] <oneliner> from unity how do find directions such as System>administration>Software Sources > Other Software ?
[01:26] <nit-wit> oneliner, synaptic
[01:29] <Rollin> good day all
[01:31] <trakinas> Rollin: night.
[01:31] <LinuxPythonPeter> hi lol
[01:31] <LinuxPythonPeter> Im back
[01:31] <LinuxPythonPeter> With a different client :P
[01:32] <Atomix26> hello?
[01:32]  * LinuxPythonPeter lol
[01:32] <Atomix26> I need help with wubi
[01:32] <LinuxPythonPeter> wubi?
[01:33] <LinuxPythonPeter> I dont reccomend using wubi, its broken imo.
[01:33] <Atomix26> yeah. I dont need you to tell me that
[01:33] <Cuchulainn> hi all...have something a little weird...my keyboard at logon is has a different time to register than once i'm logged in..
[01:33] <LinuxPythonPeter> just restart and press f1 and load it from bios or whatever
[01:33] <Atomix26> no
[01:33] <Cuchulainn> that is to say that i have to press and hold until it registers, but once logged in is fine..
[01:33] <LinuxPythonPeter> why not? thats what you have to do anyway
[01:33] <Atomix26> it says that wubildr.mbr is corrupted
[01:34] <LinuxPythonPeter> try redownloading and then reburning
[01:34] <Cuchulainn> happened once before with natty beta, but when i reinstalled the official release it was fine..up until a couple of updates ago..
[01:34] <Cuchulainn> any ideas?
[01:34] <LinuxPythonPeter> I had to download 3 times b it worked
[01:34] <Atomix26> im not burning. I installed wubi to a USB removable hard drive
[01:34] <LinuxPythonPeter> whats ur problem Cuch?
[01:34] <LinuxPythonPeter> ahh, ok.
[01:34] <LinuxPythonPeter> Well try again anyway
[01:34] <LinuxPythonPeter> redownload and retry
[01:35] <LinuxPythonPeter> if that doesnt work try burning
[01:35] <Atomix26> redownload ubuntu, or wubi?
[01:35] <LinuxPythonPeter> Try wubi, and then Ubuntu if that doesnt work
[01:35] <Atomix26> ok
[01:35] <LinuxPythonPeter> Wait, no dont redownload ubuntu yet
[01:35] <LinuxPythonPeter> just wubi
[01:36] <Cuchulainn> LinuxPythonPeter, the keyboard isn't as responsive at the logon screen...takes about a 1/2 sec press to get the key to register, but once logged in is fine..
[01:36] <nit-wit> Atomix26, the regular download has a wubi installer in it. Putting it on a external is a bad idea though.
[01:36] <Cuchulainn> LinuxPythonPeter, was working fine, then a couple of updates ago..
[01:36] <Atomix26> why?
[01:37] <nit-wit> Atomix26, wubi is a file in windows that is where it should be if you want ease of use.
[01:37] <Atomix26> so install to the C: drive instead?
[01:37] <nit-wit> Atomix26, yes
[01:37] <Atomix26> ok.
[01:38] <LinuxPythonPeter> u there CUCH?
[01:39] <vandemar> is there a way to go about starting vino-server for another user's x session?  sadly although remote desktop is enabled in system->preferences->remotedesktop, vino-server is not running for some reason
[01:39] <vandemar> I am not quite familiar with X auth juju
[01:40] <rileyp>  how can I do this :use a Dynamic DNS record that resolves to my WAN IP, but have the DNS resolve to the internal MythPodcaster host IP from inside the network
[01:41] <th0r> rileyp: you forward the port from the external ip to the internal ip
[01:42] <th0r> rileyp: or if you are running an internal network, you can add the mythpodcaster ip to the hosts file on each internal workstation
[01:42] <vandemar> internal dns proxy that fakes authority for the dyndns provider and resolves your dyndns name to the internal ip
[01:43] <plus1more> use bind for a <host.txt>
[01:43] <th0r> vandemar: obviously you are a top down programmer....while I am a bottom up programmer <smile>
 rileyp: or if you are running an internal network, you can add the mythpodcaster ip to the hosts file on each internal workstation I have done this
[01:44] <plus1more> th0r is right .. for the external world, but vandemar is right for the internal users .. they need to see a working external official domain?
[01:46] <rileyp> th0r> rileyp: you forward the port from the external ip to the internal ip I have a billion dsl modem/router and I port forward 80 to the server ip
[01:46] <plus1more> so rileyp if u dont want to access an ip-number as domain you have to setup an internal dns-server .. to intercept request to your dyndns domain that points to your internal address
[01:46] <Atomix26> How would I get rid of my computer asking which OS to load? I would like to get my computer back to the way it was until my father who works with unix/linux for a living gets in here to get things working better
[01:47] <jgpzen> ^ hahaha
[01:47] <plus1more> that is .. your dns is authoritive for internal requests
[01:47] <Atomix26> ?
[01:47] <jgpzen> It's just cool that you made it to irc
[01:47] <Atomix26> huh?
[01:47] <escott> Atomix26, /etc/default/grub and you can adjust the timeouts, just update-grub afterwards
[01:48] <davidrsmorris_> why might my livedcd refuse to use eth0?
[01:48] <Atomix26> Whoa whoa whoa
[01:48] <Atomix26> I have no clue what either of you are talking about
[01:49] <Atomix26> ubuntu does not work on my machine
[01:49] <rileyp> plus1more, http://code.google.com/p/mythpodcaster/issues/detail?id=28#c14 thi si what I was told but do not understand it precisely
[01:49] <improveupon> does anyone use mldonkey, or can anyone recommend a good p2p client
[01:49] <Problems> hello
[01:49] <Atomix26> Good bye
[01:49] <jgpzen> Atomix26, wait
[01:50] <jgpzen> Atomix26, I know how I can help you and it's easy
[01:50] <Problems> how do you make compiz permanent?
[01:50] <rileyp> I have asked in networking but no one responds.... 3 or more reponses here go figure... :D
[01:50] <Atomix26> Which would be? I cannot get on the computer at the moment. T-storm. I am working from my laptop(which I do not want ubuntu on)
[01:51] <nunu> test first time using xchat on ubuntu
 so rileyp if u dont want to access an ip-number as domain you have to setup an internal dns-server .. to intercept request to your dyndns domain that points to your internal address
[01:51] <davidrsmorris_> Problems: are you using a livecd?
[01:51] <plus1more> perl works . python works. php works.         because html sucks : )))
[01:51] <Atomix26> Me?
[01:51] <rileyp> so On my router I add the dns name and ip of my server in the dns list
[01:51] <jgpzen> Atomix26, Welcome to the internet
[01:51] <Problems> davidrsmorris_: no i am using full desktop version
[01:52] <billybigrigger> Atomix26, what's your problem?
[01:52] <Atomix26> Can I PM you?
[01:52] <rileyp> plus1more so On my router I add the dns name and ip of my server in the dns list
[01:52] <billybigrigger> your questions might be answered easier if you ask in here, but i don't mind
[01:53] <davidrsmorris_> Problems: And you're setting up compiz, but you lose those settings when you restart, or when you logout and login?
[01:53] <plus1more> rileyp: sry mate .. wrong chan
[01:53] <rileyp> vandemar internal dns proxy that fakes authority for the dyndns provider and resolves your dyndns name to the internal ip  How do I do that?
[01:53] <Problems> davidrsmorris_: yes
[01:54] <plus1more> anyway, theres no easy solution .. you'll have to install "bind" and configure it accordingly .. no easy task .. but simple .. go figure
[01:54] <rileyp> plus1more come to to #networking Ill make it easy for you /join #networking    :D
[01:54] <davidrsmorris_> Problems: see if its when you log out and in, or when you restart.
[01:55] <Starminn> In Ubuntu 10.10, Audacity is not picking up any external sound inout. Whatever I play is just relayed over my system speakers -- Audacity doesn't even know it's there.
[01:55] <davidrsmorris_> Problems: are you using compiz --replace?
[01:55] <Problems> davidrsmorris_: when i log in and log out
[01:55] <plus1more> rileyp: furthermoe you will have to point all your internal clients that want to resolve the domain("dyndns:domain) that external people can use to an internal ip-adress say <IP_ADDRESS> ... unless you want to run out of the house everytime to access it fromt he "outside" :P
[01:56] <Problems> davidrsmorris_: thats what I dont want to use because it just reverts after that
[01:56] <plus1more> to your internal dns bind server
[01:57] <escott> rileyp, if the port is forwarded things will still work it will just go A->router-(realize its router to itself)->router-(forward)->B
[01:57] <plus1more> rileyp: basically you hijack dns request from internal clients.
[01:57] <davidrsmorris_> Problems: Gnome-sessions.  THere's a dropdown box on the login screen.
[01:57] <escott> rileyp, so don't even bother enabling a dns to override the dyndns. as a bonus you get to double check your dyndns is working
[01:58] <Problems> davidrsmorris_: yes which one do I pick?
[01:58] <plus1more> escott: wrong
[01:59] <plus1more> escott: it is wrong because "domain-from-dyndns" will resolve to IP adress of router-wan-port .. so he just sees his router login page
[01:59] <Mikaze> My router (a linksys wrt54gl) does the dyndns for me, but you can use ez-ipupdate to link your IP with many dynamic dns providers...
[02:00] <rileyp> escott> rileyp, so don't even bother enabling a dns to override the dyndns. as a bonus you get to double check your dyndns is working this is what I thought It just going to my dndns address and its send me back to my wan ip which then sends me onto my servers ip
[02:00] <rileyp> escot is that correct
[02:01] <The-Kernel> hi, I have a 500GB hard drive in my system, I was wondering, if I add another 500GB, can I set it up in a RAID1 with the first without erasing the data already on the first?
[02:01] <Mikaze> You need to set up port forwarding on your router then, most likely.  Just be aware you cannot access your own system by domain name.
[02:01] <stercor> I just installed syncevolution with sudo apt-get.  I'd like to install genesis_sync, a GUI front end for syncevolution.  It's in a PPA.  I've successfully done the add-apt-repository and the apt-get update.  The program doesn't appear to be on my system.  Is there something else that I must do?
[02:01] <plus1more> rileyp: you cannot rely on an external dns-server to find your service (whatever port) that is running inside your network. you have to mirror the response from the outside dns-server by hijacking the dns request from internal networks, by setting up an autoritive dns server internally for the domains you want to "hijack" .. interally is the word
[02:01] <jgpzen> If hes trying to give internal users a different IP for an external domain its as easy as pointing lan users to a local dns and setting an A record for that domain to a local IP
[02:01] <escott> plus1more, disagrees. but that would be my expectation. go out to dyndns and get directed to your wan ip. try to connect to your wan ip the router realizes thats not on the inside side of the network and sends it to the wan which sends it right back which forwards to your internal address
[02:02] <escott> The-Kernel, yes see tutorials on raid conversion
[02:03] <plus1more> escott: i'm sorry .. i complained ... my router is shi1tty : P
[02:03] <rileyp> jgpzen, ie adding to /etc/hosts
[02:04] <josheee12> hey guys.  currently running softraid.  i'll be getting an SSD in a few weeks.  wanted to move the OS to the SSD, /home on RAID.  any known tutorials?
[02:07] <rileyp> plus1more do I go fing out about interally?
[02:07] <rileyp> find out sorry
[02:07] <escott> plus1more, rileyp not overriding dns works perfectly on mine. I just get reflected back so it looks like I am coming from my routers WAN
[02:07] <escott> plus1more, install tomato if you can
[02:07] <plus1more> rileyp: simple yes: your service is <IP_ADDRESS>:port:x . your dyndns domain is example.com. you forward your port:x from router to <IP_ADDRESS> <. everythings good. but if u typ exmaple.com as adress on internal machine it doesnt work. you need to setup an internal dns-server that authoritive for <IP_ADDRESS> that sya: <IP_ADDRESS> IS example.com and tell all your INTERNAL machines to use that.
[02:09] <plus1more> ..use that internal dns-server ..
[02:09] <rileyp> plus1more you are a champion thankyou
[02:09] <Jaded> ubuntu i hate you :(
[02:09] <rileyp> now to cut and paste todays help....
[02:09] <blackshirt> Jaded: why ?
[02:09] <plus1more> the dns server software is called "bind" ... a step-up more complicated "host.txt"
[02:10] <billybigrigger> is there any one here that can help out a wubi user?
[02:10] <rileyp> plus1more,  So I could run bind on my server?
[02:10] <plus1more> rileyp: thank you .. and thank you : )))
[02:10] <billybigrigger> more speficially Atomix26, he's having trouble with wubi, and i can't say i've ever used it
[02:10] <blackshirt> billybigrigger: what exactly your problem with wubi ?
[02:11] <billybigrigger> blackshirt, not me
[02:11] <billybigrigger> i'm trying to help him but i haven't ever used wubi, i was hoping someone could help him, i tried, but i just don't know anything about it
[02:12] <blackshirt> billybigrigger: i think you can advice him to dual boot
[02:12] <cuddlefish> Ukto: There's also ubitex.org, for buying with cash
[02:12] <cuddlefish> eh, wrong window
[02:13] <Atomix26> yeah, that is rather undesirable
[02:14] <Jaded> because I keep getting crazy high CPU use
[02:14] <blackshirt> Jaded: have you check running process ??
[02:15] <Jaded> yes
[02:15] <Jaded> looks pretty normal, except the system monitor is using about 30%
[02:16] <blackshirt> Jaded: have you install some program from another repo's or maybe somebug on your  app
[02:18] <supercom32> What file system is the safest to use? That is, contains the most features to guarentee as little data loss as possible due to some kind of malfunction?
[02:19] <billybigrigger> supercom32, what do you use the system for?
[02:19] <billybigrigger> there's nothing wrong with ext4
[02:20] <billybigrigger> supercom32, i haven't had to much trouble with it on my servers, for my home fileserver i ran with xfs for a bit on an archlinux install...but i always end up falling back on ubuntu and ext4
[02:20] <billybigrigger> well ext3/4 i guess since it's fairly new
[02:20] <billybigrigger> but stable and mature enough
[02:20] <supercom32> billybigrigger: Just large files (10gb+) and I want to try and guarantee some kind of integrity. Like in the event of a hard power off, or unsafe unplug, which FS will survive the best?
[02:21] <billybigrigger> supercom32, well then your going to want a journaling fs
[02:21] <escott> supercom32, with a file that large you want something with extents but checksums would also be nice. ext4 has extents, but I don't think it has checksums
[02:22] <supercom32> escott: Forgive the newbie question, but what are extents exactly/
[02:22] <billybigrigger> supercom32, ext4 is the way to go man
[02:22] <escott> supercom32, instead of saying file is in block 1,2,3,4,5... it says file is in blocks range 1-100
[02:23] <supercom32> escott: oh, yes. Right right.
[02:23] <Jaded> i don't know what's going on.....
[02:24] <supercom32> Ah apparently ext4 does have checksums
[02:24] <noobuntu> Hi im new to ubuntu i installed ubuntu 11.04 on my pc as the solitary os.  The partitions are sda1 as the primary and then sda5 as the swap.  I read that Im supposed to have a seperate partition for home or my data in case i have to reinstall.  How do I do that?  Thank you...
[02:24] <escott> supercom32, i think its just the journal being checksummed not the files
[02:24] <blackshirt> Jaded : i think there are someone here can help you...
[02:26] <supercom32> escott: Does btrfs checksum files?
[02:26] <centHOGG> reinstall for linux?
[02:26] <billybigrigger> noobuntu, you really need to set that up during your install
[02:26] <vandemar> supercom32: it checksums blocks, you can also turn that feature off if you really want to
[02:26] <escott> supercom32, feature-wise i think btrfs sounds best for large files like that, but its still in development
[02:27] <noobuntu> billy, thx, I was thinking that when I was installing with the live cd but had no idea how to partition in the advanced options...
[02:27] <billybigrigger> noobuntu, how long have you had your system installed? ie if you don't have to much going on with it right now we can walk through how to setup your partitions so that later down the road in weeks/months/years it will save you alot of hassle in dealing with backing stuff up and transferring files
[02:27] <billybigrigger> if you have a decent system a reinstall should only take a few minutes...
[02:27] <billybigrigger> and its not much of a hassle to do it now, properly
[02:27] <noobuntu> thx billy.  honestly, my stuff is all backed up.  Ive been playing with ubuntu and mint for the last week so, I can reinstall.
[02:28] <billybigrigger> ok
[02:28] <billybigrigger> how big is your hard drive?
[02:28] <noobuntu> it is 250gb
[02:28] <billybigrigger> how much ram?
[02:29] <noobuntu> 4
[02:29] <billybigrigger> do you play around with kernel compiling?
[02:29] <escott> supercom32, just dont use ext3 and i think its fine.
[02:30] <billybigrigger> supercom32, stick with ext4 :)
[02:30] <noobuntu> nope, im brand new to linux and barely know the sudo apt commands
[02:30] <supercom32> billybigrigger: Does ext4 have backup superblocks/journals in case the main one gets corrupt?
[02:30] <cuddlefish> yes
[02:30] <billybigrigger> if you'd like to know, google is switching from ext2 to ext4, they weighed out all the options for FS's and they've decided that over xfs, ext4 is the way to go...for them...
[02:31] <billybigrigger> supercom32, read wikipedia :P
[02:31] <billybigrigger> ext4 is a journaling FS yes...
[02:31] <escott> supercom32, yes at least one you can configure it to have others (just write down the address of the backup superblock)
[02:31] <rhcp> Sup guys
[02:31] <supercom32> i see.
[02:31] <rhcp> Is the nvdia bug fixed on the latest ubuntu?
[02:31] <billybigrigger> noobuntu, ok, if your not compiling/playing with kernels its easy then...
[02:31] <rhcp> ive heard nvdia cards had a bug
[02:31] <rhcp> and to stay away from upgrade :)
[02:31] <escott> supercom32, there is not a backup journal though. if you are this worried you should have a backup disk not just a backup journal
[02:31] <billybigrigger> noobuntu, 2GB swap, 20GB / (root partition) and allocate the rest to /home
[02:31] <noobuntu> billybigrigger, cool
[02:32] <billybigrigger> noobuntu, use the filesystem of choice...i suggest ext4 :P
[02:32] <billybigrigger> noobuntu, if you were a kernel junkie we could set you up with a 500MB /boot partition but that's unneeded
[02:32] <noobuntu> billybigrigger, so this can be done easily with the livecd?
[02:32] <billybigrigger> noobuntu, yes on a re-install
[02:33] <supercom32> escott: Yes, I really should just be doing a traditional backup :P
[02:33] <rhcp> so anyone with ideas with the new ubuntu? with the nvidia issues?
[02:33] <rhcp> curious if i can upgrade or not
[02:33] <billybigrigger> you'll need to do advanced partitioning though, i can't remember the option, but DON'T let ubuntu partition for you
[02:33] <noobuntu> billybigrigger, ok i will give that a try.  i made a apt to cd disk.  what directories should I be backing up so I can reinstall preferences and settings easily
[02:34] <billybigrigger> noobuntu, your /home :)
[02:34] <noobuntu> billybigrigger, yup, figured that one :)
[02:34] <toad`> hi
[02:34] <billybigrigger> thats why if your /home is on a separate partition, you can switch between, ubuntu/debian/fedora/mint, and keep the same /home partition, with all your setttings and preferences...
[02:34] <toad`> What would be the easeist way to reinstall Ubuntu 10.04 that is dual booted with GRUB2?
[02:34] <toad`> with windows 7
[02:35] <toad`> can I just delete the partition /sda5 I believe and reinstal on the freespace? or does that mess up GRUB?
[02:35] <billybigrigger> you just format your root partition and install your distribution of choice, keeping in tact your /home...and away you go
[02:35] <toad`> that wont mess with windows?
[02:35] <toad`> FAT32?
[02:35] <billybigrigger> toad`, it might, if /sda5 is your windows partition
[02:35] <toad`> no
[02:35] <toad`> its the Ubuntu partition
[02:35] <billybigrigger> you need to be a bit more specific of your questions
[02:35] <toad`> I have it installed
[02:36] <toad`> Well this has all stemmed from NetworkManager disappearing after I installed Arping
[02:36] <toad`> so I have no networkmanager, cant get online. I cant figure out how to reconfig ifconfig or whatever it is I need to reconfig. so I figured I'd just reinstal.
[02:36] <toad`> or can I instal packages straight from the LiveCD?
[02:37] <centHOGG> nope
[02:37] <improveupon> does anyone here use mldonkey/can anyone recommend a debian p2p client?
[02:37] <toad`> hrm
[02:37] <noobuntu> for a new linux user, is it best to start off as mint or stay with ubuntu
[02:37] <toad`> so right I'm just thinking a fresh instal would be easier
[02:37] <billybigrigger> noobuntu, whatever your more comfortable with
[02:37] <toad`> so should I delete the original Ubuntu partition?
[02:38] <billybigrigger> toad`, just reinstall over it
[02:38] <toad`> over it?
[02:38] <toad`> thats what I'd like to do
[02:38] <toad`> but in order to do that dont I have to delete that partition? thats the only option i can see that would do anythign like that
[02:38] <noobuntu> billybigrigger, i liked the mint design, but I cant find a good livecd install and the unetbootin only has the mint9 available
[02:38] <billybigrigger> noobuntu, stick with ubuntu
[02:39] <billybigrigger> you can customize and make any distribution look however you want it
[02:40] <ZykoticK9_> noobuntu, unetbootin has an option to use an ISO you have downloaded (the "mint9" option just downloads for you) so you can use pretty much any gnu/linux distro you want
[02:40] <toad`> i like the looks of Mint too
[02:40] <toad`> how do you get your bar to look like mints? is there a style/skin for it?
[02:40] <toad`> theme rather
[02:40] <toad`> but anyway, back to reinstalling
[02:41] <toad`> someone help me out real quick
[02:41] <SubCool> can someone help me with my webcam and skype.. It wont work for skype, but it works on cheese.
[02:41] <blackshirt> toad: you can install mint theme on ubuntu :d
[02:41] <toad`> ok cool
[02:41] <toad`> I need to figure out how to reinstall
[02:42] <escott> SubCool, you dont get any video in skype? can you select the camera in skype?
[02:42] <toad`> do I select partitions? or 'install them side by side'?
[02:42] <noobuntu> zykotic9, when I tried unet to create a mint11 cd, it asked for the mounting point and i did not know how to select that
[02:42] <blackshirt> toad: what are you doing reinstall for ?
[02:42] <toad`> cause NetworkManager dissappeared or stopped working thanks to Arping in 10.04
[02:42] <SubCool> escott, there is only one option in skype.. And no- no video.
[02:42] <toad`> so I figured instead of messing around wiht that seeing as how it was almost a fresh instal already I figured I would just reinstall
[02:43] <escott> SubCool, you could try using LD_PRELOAD to force skype to use v4l2 library it might work
[02:44] <toad`> blackshirt, what should I do
[02:44] <escott> SubCool #!/bin/bash \n export LIBV4LCONTROL_FLAGS=3 \n LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib32/libv4l/v4l1compat.so skype
[02:44] <SubCool> i saw that on the fix list on one of the forums.. it didnt work
[02:44] <toad`> do I specify partitions manually and delete the partition that has Ubuntu on it already?
[02:44] <SubCool> but ill try it..
[02:44] <SubCool> isnt that the script?
[02:44] <escott> SubCool, if you are 32bit install it would be /usr/lib instead of /usr/lib32
[02:44] <blackshirt> toad: if you want reinstall network-manager, you can reinstall it with apt or package manager
[02:45] <toad`> i cant get online
[02:45] <SubCool> so only the LD_PRELOAD line? or the entire script
[02:45] <toad`> can I apt and get from the LiveCD?
[02:45] <DigitalSkin> was wondering what is a ppa really?
[02:45] <maco> DigitalSkin: third-party repository
[02:45] <maco> toad`: yes
[02:45] <escott> SubCool, im honestly not sure what the V4L control flags do. try it without, then try it with
[02:46] <SubCool> i just did it- it worked..
[02:46] <cryptopsy> is it possible to encrypt tmpfs?
[02:46] <toad`> well thats what I was asking before
[02:46] <toad`> and ppl said no
[02:46] <toad`> that would fix all my problems really and I wouldnt have to worry bout reinstalling
[02:46] <cryptopsy> toad`: what are you trying to do ? i just go there?
[02:46] <SubCool> escott, where do i put the script
[02:46] <zelrik> hi
[02:46] <toad`> I need NetworkManager
[02:46] <toad`> lol
[02:47] <toad`> or to reinstall Ubuntu and delete the original partition
[02:47] <escott> SubCool, ~/bin is a good place
[02:47] <zelrik> how to setup an intuos 3 on a dual screen on ubuntu
[02:47] <cryptopsy> install wpa_supplicant that will manage the fuck out of your network
[02:47] <toad`> just install the drivers zelrick
[02:47] <blackshirt> toad: you can alternate cd...
[02:47] <toad`> I'm not sure about the intuos 3 but my intuos4 installed fairly easily
[02:47] <SubCool> escott, ok- what do i name it?
[02:47] <SubCool> skype?
[02:48] <zelrik> is there drivers for intuos?
[02:48] <escott> SubCool, i called my skype-fixed.sh if you just call it skype double check that $HOME/bin comes first in your $PATH
[02:48] <toad`> yeah
[02:48] <toad`> go to wacom.com
[02:48] <blackshirt> toad: use alternate cd
[02:48] <toad`> their customer service will hook you up they are really good bout helping folks
[02:48] <toad`> waht do you mean blackshirt ?
[02:48] <escott> SubCool, and don't forget to chmod +x the file
[02:48] <toad`> I have a liveCD
[02:48] <toad`> how would I get that package off? network-manager gnome
[02:48] <toad`> or somethign
[02:49] <blackshirt> toad: live cd contain squashfs filesystem..not exactly .deb packages
[02:49] <SubCool> escott, thanks alot- i shoulda known.
[02:49] <escott> SubCool, enjoy
[02:49] <blackshirt> toad: you can download it manually from packages.ubuntu.com
[02:49] <toad`> lol
[02:49] <toad`> no I cant
[02:49] <toad`> I cant get ONLINE!
[02:50] <toad`> do you mean use the LiveCD and download frmo there? can I instal it using the LiveCD?
[02:50] <toad`> or should I just download and stick it in the filesystem?
[02:50] <toad`> would that work?
[02:50] <zelrik> ok so the drivers are already installed
[02:50] <blackshirt> toad: are you have alternate ubuntu cd or dvd  ??
[02:50] <toad`> I have a LiveCD
[02:50] <toad`> dvd
[02:50] <toad`> whatever itr is
[02:50] <toad`> I have one I burned myself and one Ubuntu sent me
[02:50] <zelrik> my tablet pad covers only 1/2 of the screen
[02:50] <toad`> lol
[02:50] <zelrik> and 1/4 when I try to configure it
[02:50] <toad`> you need to change the thing
[02:51] <escott> toad`, is network manager still installed?
[02:51] <toad`> NO
[02:51] <toad`> its pcakage is completely gone
[02:51] <toad`> after installing Arping
[02:51] <toad`> apparently their is a conflict in 10.04
[02:51] <escott> toad`, is the nm package still in /var/cache/apt
[02:51] <blackshirt> toad: if you have ubuntu dvd's, i think you can use it to install from
[02:51] <toad`> it removed it after it installed which was strange, I didnt really notice at first
[02:51] <toad`> I tried that escott :P
[02:51] <toad`> install the package?
[02:52] <escott> toad`, boot the livecd chroot yourself in, then install nm
[02:53] <cryptopsy> can mplayer play flv files?
[02:53] <toad`> I can install it to the filesystem? from the LiveCD?
[02:53] <cryptopsy> also what are the main differneces between mplaye rand mplayer2
[02:53] <toad`> do I install it straight from the CD? or do I need to download it?
[02:53] <escott> toad`, are you familiar with a chroot?
[02:53] <cryptopsy> what's a spam filter i can use with mutt email client?
[02:53] <toad`> no
[02:54] <escott> toad`, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#ChRoot (its for grub but the principle is the same). gives you access to your system but using the livecds to provide the basic system
[02:54] <zelrik> http://bensimonds.com/2011/05/25/setting-up-dual-monitors-with-a-wacom-tablet-on-ubuntu-11-04/ doesnt work :(
[02:54] <JoeR1> is there a command to update the kernel?
[02:55] <cryptopsy> yes - rebuild it
[02:55] <zelrik> how do I configure an intuos 3 on a dual screen?
[02:55] <cryptopsy> if previous part of it are there it will use those, if they are different it will rewrite them
[02:56] <hdon-> is there a command line tool to burn DVDs?
[02:56] <hdon-> (just want a filesystem, not DVD video or anything)
[02:56] <ZykoticK9_> hdon-, growisofs
[02:56] <cryptopsy> hdon-: yes lots of them google it
[02:56] <escott> hdon-, wodim
[02:56] <hdon-> ZykoticK9_, thanks
[02:56] <hdon-> escott, thanks
[02:56] <hdon-> cryptopsy, google "gratitude"
[02:56] <cryptopsy> hdon-: what's that supposed to mean, that you're mad and lazy?
[02:58] <Cuchulainn> so anyone have any insight into my issue?
[02:58] <Starminn> In Ubuntu 10.10, Audacity is not picking up any external sound inout. Whatever I play is just relayed over my system speakers -- Audacity doesn't even know it's there.
[02:58] <zelrik> hmm
[02:58] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: i joined after you asked, what was it?
[02:58] <zelrik> that s weird
[02:58] <toad`> escott,
[02:58] <toad`> is this what I need tho?
[02:58] <zelrik> xandr only lists one monitor
[02:58] <toad`> I dont need to reinstall GRUB
[02:58] <toad`> I need NetworkManager
[02:58] <toad`> heh
[02:58] <FloodBot1> toad`: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:58] <zelrik> and I have 2
[02:59] <cryptopsy> Starminn: check if alsamixer has a default sound device set with alsamixer then press f6
[02:59] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, at logon, the keyboard has a lag...1/2 second or so...have to press and hold to get the key to register...
[02:59] <escott> cryptopsy, seems like a perfectly reasonable response. not everyone would know what to search for. i didnt realize until yesterday that cdrecord had been renamed to wodim
[02:59] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, is fine once i'm logged in...happened once before w/ natty beta...
[03:00] <cryptopsy> escott: command line burning linux
[03:00] <cryptopsy> done.
[03:00] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, happened again with updates..?
[03:00] <escott> toad`, follow the chroot up to the grub-install then try apt-get install network-manager instead
[03:00] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: it could be due to many things but you can investigate by checking your kernel logs to see if its don't something in a loop that it shouldnt, or monitor disk IO
[03:01] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, is on netbook, so probably not like os/2 style interrupt, but more like usb?
[03:01] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: oh you're running from a usb stick?
[03:01] <cryptopsy> yea that would do it
[03:01] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, so how to check kernel log, and what am i looking for?
[03:01] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: just type dmesg
[03:01] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, no, full install..
[03:02] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: yea but what did you full install on
[03:02] <FlashSmith> Hello everyone
[03:02] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn:  you can full install on a usb stick or you can use the usb installation on a hardrive
[03:02] <cryptopsy> FlashSmith: hi
[03:02] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy,HD, MSI u100 "windbook"
[03:02] <cryptopsy> no one knows what that is
[03:03] <yassine_hell> hi, how can i know which version of postgresql i have?
[03:03] <zelrik> xsetwacom set "Wacom Intuos3 6x8" MapToOutput defaultUnknown parameter name 'MapToOutput'
[03:03] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, dmesg | grep ?
[03:03] <JoeR1> is there a command to update the kernel?
[03:03] <FlashSmith> I havve heard about Ubuntu, and I was thinking of using/trying it, but I'm not sure
[03:03] <escott> JoeR1, why do you want to update?
[03:03] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: we don't really have a guess waht the problem is so you can't grep
[03:03] <JoeR1> FlashSmith, They have a try without installing feature on the cd
[03:03] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: dmesg |more
[03:04] <FlashSmith> CD?
[03:04] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: pastebin it if you want other people ot help you look
[03:04] <py9371> when looking at problems thats say stuff about graphs how should i start these problem
[03:04] <cryptopsy> pastebin.com
[03:04] <FlashSmith> I'm not sure how to do either
[03:04] <JoeR1> escott - just hoping to be at the most recent version, so is there a command?
[03:04] <py9371> like inflection points etc
[03:04] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, atkbd might be a suspect?
[03:04] <cryptopsy> atkbd what
[03:04] <py9371> do I have to find several points and graph all these problems?
[03:04] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, ok, walk me through pastebin..never used..
[03:04] <cryptopsy> copy and paste
[03:05] <cryptopsy> then press 'upload'
[03:05] <cryptopsy> or whatever it says
[03:05] <cryptopsy> there's many pastebins
[03:05] <FlashSmith> How would I try Ubuntu without installing?
[03:05] <cryptopsy> actually ...
[03:05] <FloodBot1> cryptopsy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:05] <centHOGG> livecd
[03:05] <zelrik> grrr
[03:05] <escott> JoeR1, not really. they settle on a version. stabilize and test it, and then give smaller bug fixes. you could install a vanilla kernel from the ubuntu kernel group, but without a reason (like this device driver doesn't work) you are just asking for things to break
[03:05] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: go to ompldr.org and upload 'dmesg >myfile'
[03:05] <zelrik> nothing works
[03:05] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: then paste the link it gives you here
[03:05] <cryptopsy> it will be a direct link to your file
[03:05] <Cuchulainn> [    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
[03:05] <Cuchulainn> [    0.000000] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
[03:05] <Cuchulainn> [    0.000000] Linux version 2.6.38-8-generic (buildd@vernadsky) (gcc version 4.5.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.5.2-8ubuntu3) ) #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:50 UTC 2011 (Ubuntu 2.6.38-8.42-generic <IP_ADDRESS>)
[03:05] <Cuchulainn> [    0.000000] Atom PSE erratum detected, BIOS microcode update recommended
[03:05] <Cuchulainn> [    0.000000] BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
[03:05] <FloodBot1> Cuchulainn: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:05] <py9371> flashsmith - put the cd in before boot and ther is an optrion to boot live cd or something
[03:05] <cryptopsy> FlashSmith: order a free cd
[03:06] <cryptopsy> you can install it on disposable things like usb sticks or cd roms
[03:06] <cryptopsy> but you always have to do some kind of installation
[03:06] <cryptopsy> unetbootin will do it automatically for you
[03:06] <FlashSmith> How would I order a free CD? I thought you had to buy a CD?
[03:06] <py9371> flashmith no you can download ubuntu for free its free
[03:06] <cryptopsy> FlashSmith: oh maybe they stopped offering that
[03:06] <cuddlefish> cryptopsy: shipit is off
[03:06] <maco> cryptopsy: they did
[03:06] <FlashSmith> Wait what do you mean somekind of installation?
[03:06] <IdleOne> !shipit
[03:06] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, thanks...sorry...try to learn...
[03:06] <cryptopsy> maco: i remember you
[03:06] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, http://paste.ubuntu.com/628241/
[03:07] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: okay now share that with people that want to look at it
[03:07] <maco> FlashSmith: you can just burn a cd of ubuntu and try it from that. you dont *have* to install to your system to use it
[03:07] <toad`> escott,
[03:07] <FlashSmith> Oh oh well, how would I make my own CD or usbstick with Ubuntu?
[03:07] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: but direct links are more convenient
[03:07] <cryptopsy> maco:  you're that cute girl from the ubuntu webpage right
[03:07] <maco> FlashSmith: the "desktop" iso on the download page on ubuntu.com is a live cd
[03:07] <IdleOne> !usb > FlashSmith
[03:07] <maco> cryptopsy: uh...
[03:07] <toad`> I get the 'Following packages were automatically installed and no longer required; linux-headers-2.6.32-21'
[03:07] <cryptopsy> yea the one with the unibrow, i remember you
[03:08] <maco> cryptopsy: i'm a woman with an ubuntu blog, if that's what you mean
[03:08] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: those atkbd lines are probably from when you were pressing keys
[03:08] <cryptopsy> but i don't know how many times you pressed it
[03:08] <IdleOne> toad`: sudo apt-get autoremove will get remove it
[03:08] <cryptopsy> but see how it says 'composite sync not supported', you can investigate that
[03:08] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, http://ompldr.org/vOTNtaA]http://ompldr.org/vOTNtaA
[03:08] <toad`> remove linux-headers?
[03:08] <cryptopsy> also note the times between the events
[03:08] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: ompldr has a firefox tool and lets you upload other media too like images
[03:08] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: that's why i suggested it
[03:08] <toad`> I said Y and it said 'Something wicked happend resolving 'us.archive.ubuntu.com:http'
[03:09] <toad`> it cant connect out
[03:09] <toad`> apparently
[03:09] <toad`> Unable to fetch some archives ... etc..
[03:09] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: people who want to downloda your files can use 'wget yourfileURL'
[03:09] <toad`> No address associated with hostname
[03:09] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: another good tool is etherpad by google
[03:09] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: they quit that project so now there are various ehterpads, one is piratepad.net
[03:09] <cryptopsy> or maybe its .com
[03:09] <IdleOne> toad`: if the package manager says it is no longer needed it is fine to remove
[03:09] <escott> toad`, blah you probably need to copy some things like resolve.conf over from /etc
[03:09] <cryptopsy> but its like a multiplayer pastebin
[03:10] <toad`> hrmpf
[03:10] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: for examle you and your friend can be both editing your document in REALTIME, and at the same time
[03:10] <toad`> so what should I do
[03:10] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, so a netbook kbd works more like network transport layer, where instead of interrupt, it sends until gets ACK or not?
[03:10] <toad`> grr
[03:10] <cryptopsy> toad`: ask in the ubuntu forums
[03:10] <toad`> see escott I think it would just be easier to reinstall
[03:10] <toad`> lol
[03:10] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: i don't know
[03:10] <cryptopsy> people don't memorize these things
[03:10] <rednut> hi guys
[03:10] <cryptopsy> rednut: hi
[03:10] <centHOGG> h
[03:11] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: you can ignore all the sdc stuff
[03:11] <cryptopsy> if you want to test your keys you can use xev
[03:11] <FlashSmith> Hmm I don't think I can use a usb since I don't think I have a big enough usb. Is it possible to burn a cd; can any computer/desktop burn a cd?
[03:11] <escott> toad`, try copying /etc/resolve.conf and /etc/hosts from the livecd to the chroot just in case
[03:11] <cryptopsy> FlashSmith: is it possible to burn a cd?
[03:12] <cryptopsy> its not withcraft
[03:12] <centHOGG> *witchcraft
[03:12] <escott> toad`, and see if you can ping something like <IP_ADDRESS> inside the chroot (assuming that is your router)
[03:12] <cryptopsy> yea like no one knew without your brilliant correction
[03:12] <centHOGG> thx
[03:12] <rednut> I'm looking for a cloning software, like clonezilla but in native no a live cd, to make an iso out of an hard drive ( not using the cmd dd or mkiso) Anyone has a hint ?
[03:13] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, what is 'latency timer'?
[03:13] <centHOGG> i use acronis (just cause)
[03:13] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: depends on the contexy
[03:13] <cryptopsy> t
[03:13] <toad`> hrmm
[03:13] <toad`> it pings
[03:13] <toad`> I'll try and reboot
[03:13] <quentusrex> How do you get more info on what version of a kernel module is loaded?
[03:13] <FlashSmith> Hmm, I have a few more questions I guess. If youre booting from a cd, does it install something on the computer, would it affect any of the existing files within the computer?
[03:14] <escott> toad`, then its probably just dns (ie the resolve.conf)
[03:14] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: oh in your dmesg, ... you can ignore it
[03:14] <escott> toad`, were you able to install nm?
[03:14] <jgpzen> modinfo
[03:14] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, looks like my bios needs an upgrade?
[03:14] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: probably not
[03:14] <zelrik> is there a way to make a tablet work on a dual screen on ubuntu?
[03:14] <jgpzen> root@ubuntu:~# modinfo bnx2
[03:14] <FlashSmith> ?
[03:14] <escott> toad`, and i realize telling you to copy over /etc/hosts would have blown away your hostname
[03:14] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: did you find out what atkbd and that other one mean?
[03:15] <toad`> i think so
[03:15] <no-name-> got python 3.1 interpreter from software centre, typed python in shell but still comes up with 2.6 interpreter
[03:15] <toad`> it said the stuff about linux-headers
[03:15] <toad`> but it says that everytime I try to apt-get something
[03:15] <jgpzen> no-name-,  Need to update the symlink
[03:15] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: try xev first too
[03:15] <jgpzen> Check path for python3.*
[03:15] <toad`> I said Y and it said something something bout somethign wicked happening no able to resolve hostname etc...
[03:15] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, is that a cli command, or something to look for in dmesg?
[03:16] <cryptopsy> its a program that you run from the command line
[03:16] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, you have to keep in mind that i am a babe in the woods when it comes to this stuff..
[03:16] <escott> toad`, well if you get nm working again on the installed system you will need to correct /etc/hosts to make sure your /etc/hostname is mapped to <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:16] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, so thanks for the patience..
[03:16] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: yea just install it
[03:16] <cryptopsy> and run it
[03:16] <cryptopsy> simpull
[03:16] <mrdeb> Cuchulainn: lol babe in woods
[03:16] <centHOGG> amber alert
[03:17] <no-name-> jgpzen: I asked in #python. typing python3 works
[03:17] <escott> toad`, thats no doubt what apt said was wicked, because hosts didn't direct hostname back to the localhost
[03:17] <Logan_> There are still inherent problems with XHCI, USB 3.0, and suspending on Natty, yet a bug relating to this was resolved as "Fix released," with comments since about workarounds still needing to be applied but no developer activity.  Why is this?
[03:17] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, x11-utils?
[03:17] <qin> grekkos: Interesting that my ping on lan is 17ms, came across this: http://cloudservers.rackspacecloud.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_-_HLDS_(Steam_Version) , with all important line: apt-get install lib32gcc1 (since lack of free 64bit not tested)
[03:19] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, 'sudo apt-get install xev'='no installation candidate'
[03:21] <Jaded> I've learnt a lot about linux today :)
[03:21] <centHOGG> g
[03:22] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: apt-get search xev
 Anyone have an xchat now playing plugin for vlc
 or even an alternate media player for linux (that you know of a now playing script/plugin)
[03:22] <mrdeb> Jaded: good luck and feel free to always ask
[03:22] <thatITguy> jaded: good ;) you're doing well!
[03:22] <Corey> Drew|: Those things are terrible.
[03:22] <Drew|> Corey, heh
[03:22] <Corey> Drew|: Channels full of people really, really don't care what you're listening to.
[03:22] <Jaded> haha
[03:22] <Jaded> thanks ITguy
[03:23] <Drew|> Corey, yeah but they can deal with it
[03:23] <Jaded> didn't see you in chat when I was asking questions ;p
[03:23] <Corey> Drew|: Such things are bannable here. :-)
[03:23] <Drew|> Good thing I do not idle here
[03:23] <Drew|> :-)
[03:23] <cromag> Im trying to install ubuntu 11.04 on the side of a pre-installed windows 7. I get Bootloader install failed wgen grub wants to install. Where do i go from here ?
[03:23] <thatITguy> im just being passive tonight :)
[03:23] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, nothing...but ran just xev...got some text output in term, and a gui 'event tester', both of which seem to record w/o end?
[03:23] <Logan_> Drew|: http://xchat.org/cgi-bin/search.pl?str=vlc&cat=0&Submit=Search
[03:23] <IdleOne> Drew|: xchat.org has a tone of scripts
[03:24] <Logan_> Drew|: heh, one's called "VLC XChat spam 0.1"
[03:24] <hdon> hi all :) where does brasero store the disc image before burning to disc?
[03:24] <Drew|> fantastic, thanks Logan_ and IdleOne
[03:24] <thatITguy> hahaha logan
[03:24] <nikhil_> hdon, /tmp
[03:24] <zelrik> is there anything wrong with this: http://pastebin.com/3irN8rJP ?
[03:24] <hdon> nikhil_, thanks... i just realized though i don't think i used brasero. i used nautilus
[03:24] <hdon> where does nautilus do it?
[03:25] <escott> hdon, /tmp most likely
[03:25] <nit-wit> cromag, run this script and pastebin the text. Can be run from a Live Ubuntu cd.  http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[03:25] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: use the graphical user interface in the menu to search for xev
[03:25] <cryptopsy> i don't remember what it's called
[03:25] <cromag> nit-wit: when would i do that ?
[03:26] <hdon> i'm getting this error every time telling me there isn't enough space. but this isn't the error i got before, where i solved the problem by splitting up my ambition for one DVD into two DVDs. now it creates the disk image, then ejects the disk, and tells me there wasn't enough space, so i was thinkin gmaybe it was talking about creating the image on my hdd
[03:26] <nit-wit> cromag, it is a script that generates a text file of your setup a what is where it saves the 1000, questions.
[03:26] <nikhil_> hdon, how did you partition your harddrive?
[03:26] <cromag> nit-wit: i mean, im "stuck" in the install right now. do i cuntinue without bootloader ?
[03:27] <nikhil_> hdon, did you use ubuntu's default scheme? if so, how much free space do you have?
[03:27] <escott> cromag, you can let the install keep going (the bootloader will fail) and then fix it afterwards with !grub
[03:27] <escott> !grub | cromag
[03:27] <hdon> nikhil_, encrypted homes, swap, and root
[03:28] <thatITguy> hdon, so how large are the files and how much disk space is free on your primary partition?
[03:28] <cromag> ok, i'll hit the conitinue without bootloader.
[03:28] <hdon> mount|grep /tmp # doesn't seems to suggest /tmp is on my / filesystem
[03:28] <nikhil_> hdon, navigate to "/" and look at the bottom of nautilus. it will tell you free space
[03:28] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, xev (and possibly dmesg) seems to only log within session...my problem is happening at login, but not inside session?
[03:28] <hdon> thatITguy, the free space on / is fairly close to the size of the image i need to create3
[03:28] <nit-wit> cromag, without knowing more; I'm trying to get the appropriate information so we actually fix it.
[03:28] <cryptopsy> maco: you spin me right round baby right round ...
[03:29] <nikhil_> hdon, if that is less than the size of the dvd you want to burn, you might have a problem
[03:29] <hdon> thatITguy, nikhil_: brasero seems to have no problem doing the operation, only nautilus. using brasero works.
[03:29] <cromag> nit-wit: i know, and want you to have it, can i do this from the install menu ? other wise i need to get to a point where it¨s possible
[03:29] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: i figured we can check what's going on at runtime
[03:29] <thatITguy> so are you trying to save it as an .iso, or are you burning an .iso to DVDs?
[03:29] <nikhil_> hdon, sorry mate, can't help you now. Gotta get ready for the day :)
[03:29] <IdleOne> cryptopsy: stop harassing the channel users.
[03:29] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: gotta start somewhere
[03:30] <nit-wit> cromag, read the link.
[03:30] <cryptopsy> Cuchulainn: also i'm sorry if i've harrassed you in any way
[03:30] <Cuchulainn> cryptopsy, oh...ok..not at all...just trying to get my bearings...appreciate the help..
[03:30] <cryptopsy> like a babe in the woods ...
[03:30] <maco> cryptopsy: he's referring to you being exceedingly CREEPY toward me
[03:30] <escott> cromag, theoretically you could ctrl-alt-f1 to a console and do some of the things listed in !grub while the install is going on
[03:30] <cryptopsy> maco: what do you mean? there's /ignore
[03:30] <cryptopsy> i thought you didn't mind
[03:30] <hdon> nikhil_, thanks :) have a good day
[03:30] <gryffus> hi folks... i am new to ubuntu and trying to build a patched kernel module on Ubuntu 10.4... so i installed kernel source and build deps with apt-get, patched the sources in /usr/src/linux and now what is the proper way to rebuild only the patched parts? Thanks much...
[03:30] <maco> cryptopsy: if i didnt mind i wouldnt have kicked you
[03:31] <_Lucifer> I have a multiboot liveusb set up. the liveusb aspects (I use it for other stuff too) are getting to be about the size of a DVD. is there an easy way to convert it to a bootable dvd?
[03:31] <Cuchulainn> maco, crypstopsy..so what's going on now?
[03:31] <cromag> nit-wit: so you suggest i cancel the installation, and boot into the livecd, correct ?
[03:31] <guampa> when you add an icon to the messaging indicator in /usr/share/indicators/messages , is there some way to control the order the order they appear in the menu?
[03:31] <thatITguy> hdon, so are you burning an iso to DVD or writing files to an iso?
[03:32] <maco> Cuchulainn: turns out making comments about others' bodies doesn't count as tech support, so he's gone
[03:32] <nit-wit> cromag, what is the error you getting again and where.
[03:32] <balt11t> my laptop fn keys do not work for brightness, neither does power management, nor the widget .
[03:32] <thatITguy> balt, system specs?
[03:32] <cromag> nit-wit: during installation of 1104 on the side of windows 7, grub wont install on sda5, the linux partition.
[03:32] <_Lucifer> balt11t, what type of laptop is it?
[03:33] <balt11t> EEE Pc
[03:33] <cromag> oh wait, this might like to be on the windows partition ?
[03:33] <Cuchulainn> maco, thanks, though 'babe in the woods' is an expression referring to a state of innocence and niavete...i didn't catch the comment...
[03:33] <thatITguy> balt, can you give us a version of ubuntu?
[03:33] <nit-wit> cromag, normally it should go to sda are you trying to run easybcd?
[03:33] <escott> balt11t, is there a backlight level in /sys/class/backlight
[03:34] <balt11t> 11.04
[03:34] <Cuchulainn> maco, maybe i'm being inappropriate, and just too dense to realize...(wouldn't be the first time)?
[03:34] <maco> Cuchulainn: it started further in backscroll. see PM for log
[03:34] <balt11t> escott, should I cd there?
[03:34] <cromag> nit-wit: no i dont think so, just the ubuntu 32bit install/try cd
[03:34] <balt11t> then ls?
[03:35] <_Lucifer> quit
[03:35] <escott> balt11t, sure (its actually in a subdirectory of backlight)
[03:35] <nit-wit> cromag, so at the custom install partitioning setup you chose sda5 for grub, t should be sda which is the master boot record, MBR.
[03:35] <escott> balt11t, mine is /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0/brightness
[03:35] <nit-wit> *it should be
[03:35] <centHOGG> fail
[03:36] <courtney_> i upgrade to 11.04 and my integrated webcam stopped working (it can't find the folder /dev/video0), could someone please help?
[03:36] <lee__> what's the meaning of "$?==1" in bash
[03:36] <anastasis> Please assist... When I ping or traceroute anything all i get back are asterisks. ***.  Firewall is off. Ubuntu 11.04 cabled straight into eth0. Is it my ISP blocking...something to do with port forwarding on router??
[03:36] <balt11t> escott, actual_brightness brightness and max_brightness
[03:36] <centHOGG> lesson 1 don't upgrade
[03:37] <escott> lee__, the last programs exit code (usually 0 is success)
[03:37] <courtney_> centHOGG: it updated and broke first
[03:37] <cromag> nit-wit: i need to be sure; you want me to choose sda and no numbers ?
[03:37] <kiichiro> Hi
[03:37] <blackshirt> hi kiichiro
[03:37] <escott> balt11t, ok that was just to check your kernel knows the backlight exists. you should be able to cat ## > /sys/class/.../brightness where ## is some value to change the brightness level (be careful with the values you test)
[03:38] <nit-wit> cromag, that is correct I'm asuming you don't have a gpt or raid set up here as well.
[03:38] <escott> balt11t, rather echo ##
[03:38] <cromag> nit-wit: correct.
[03:38] <nit-wit> cromag, yeah just sda is where grub goes.;)
[03:38] <balt11t> escott, why don't the fn keys work?
[03:38] <escott> balt11t, that i don't know. just suggesting that you check that the kernel is able to change the brightness level
[03:39] <cromag> nit-wit: ok, it seems the installation process has stopped now, cant chooses any of the options now :) - or i can choose but pressing OK doesnt do anything
[03:39] <escott> courtney_, in what applications?
[03:39] <anastasis> hello
[03:40] <escott> courtney_, nevermind if /dev/video0 doesn't exist nothing should work
[03:40] <courtney_> escott: i've tried with cheese and in the multimedia systems selector under system > admin
[03:40] <courtney_> i mean sys > pref
[03:41] <balt11t> permission denied
[03:41] <escott> balt11t, sudo -i first
,what's the last programes exit?
[03:41] <nit-wit> cromag, in the partitioning section the custom install did you set the mount of the sda5 as /
[03:41] <balt11t> escott, permission denied
[03:41] <cromag> i asked it to be "along side windows 7"
[03:42] <escott> balt11t, first line "sudo -i [ENTER]" it will ask for the password, then you get a root shell. then echo ## >brightness
[03:42] <cromag> but right now i cant even cancel the installation process nit-wit
[03:42] <nit-wit> cromag, that is risky, do you know how many partitons are there already
[03:42] <TheLifelessOne> Hey, is there an apt-get command to only get the required packages, and ignore the suggested ones?
[03:42] <anastasis> Please assist... When I ping or traceroute anything all i get back are asterisks. ***.  Firewall is off. Ubuntu 11.04 cabled straight into eth0. Is it my ISP blocking...something to do with port forwarding on router??
[03:42] <cromag> nit-wit: let me try reboot, check the partitions and get back. This installation has gone cold.
[03:43] <balt11t> it dimmed
[03:43] <nit-wit> cromag, sounds correct
[03:43] <escott> courtney_, do you know what kind of camera this is? lsusb to find it
[03:44] <cromag> nit-wit: ill get the partitions done manually instead then.
[03:44] <escott> balt11t, well your backlight works then... perhaps the keyboard is sending strange keysyms the kernel doesn't recognize... all that is a bit beyond me
[03:44] <balt11t> escott, weird, 13 is dark, but 12 is bright
[03:45] <billybigrigger> balt11t, you said eee pc yeah?
[03:45] <nit-wit> cromag, your best served letting W7 partition itself leaving unallocated for Ubuntu, but knowing the partition limitations in types and amounts.
[03:45] <escott> lee__, if a program fails like rm file_that_doesnt_exist then $? =1 will be different than after it succeeds (touch foo; rm foo; echo $? = 0)
[03:46] <balt11t> billybigrigger, yeah, and in 10.10, actually it worked in 11.04 too, but i had to reinstall ubuntu
[03:46] <cromag> nit-wit: im not sure i understood that, im a dane. what i have is a pre defined windows 7 part. on 300g, and an unallocated 200g space.
[03:47] <courtney_> escott: i'm not sure which one it is...
[03:47] <cromag> nit-wit: but now; partition window.
[03:47] <escott> !paste | court_jester
[03:47] <nit-wit> cromag, your sure it is just one W7 partition, no boot partition, or recovery as well.
[03:47] <escott> !paste | courtney_
[03:48] <lee__> escott,I see,Thank you !~
[03:48] <balt11t> billybigrigger, then after the reinstall it stopped
[03:48] <cromag> nit-wit: sorry, correct, a 100meg recovery something as well
[03:48] <billybigrigger> balt11t, that's weird
,I see,Thank you ~
[03:48] <Jaded> question, I'm trying to save jpgs using Epiphany browser, but they keep coming out as junk 19KB files
[03:48] <escott> lee__, np
[03:48] <cromag> nit-wit: recovery in sda1, win7 in sda2
[03:48] <Jaded> firefox and opera can save them fine
[03:48] <balt11t> billybigrigger, any ideas then?
[03:49] <billybigrigger> balt11t, is google any help? there are quite a few eee ubuntu users out there...never heard of something like that happening on a re-format though
[03:49] <billybigrigger> balt11t, was 10.10 to 11.04 an upgrade?
[03:49] <courtney_> escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/628257/
[03:49] <escott> Jaded, what does "file" think they are
[03:49] <cromag> nit-wit: removing the prev. ubuntu/swaps
[03:49] <billybigrigger> maybe there's a change in an acpi setting somewhere in 11.04 that breaks it?
[03:49] <billybigrigger> that would explain your breakage in a fresh install of 11.04
[03:49] <balt11t> billybigrigger, yeah, it was an upgrade than a reinstall. and google is no help
[03:50] <billybigrigger> boooo
[03:50] <billybigrigger> google is NOT your friend!
[03:50] <billybigrigger> :P hehe
[03:50] <balt11t> oh wait
[03:50] <escott> courtney_, there is no camera there unless it is 0db0:3801 but i think that is bluetooth. this is an integrated camera?
[03:50] <balt11t> Shoot, hmm,
[03:51] <balt11t> billybigrigger, I lied, and got all my months confused, haha. I reinstalled 10.10, then upgraded to 11.04.
[03:51] <courtney_> escott: yes that was everything from lsusb, i don't think it detects it at all
[03:51] <balt11t> billybigrigger, it never worked in 11.04
[03:51] <nit-wit> cromag, on any single HD you can have at the most 4 primary partitions, or 3 primaries, and a extended which can hold logical partitions. The primary is needed for the W7 main boot OS, Ubuntu will run in logicals with no problem.
[03:51] <billybigrigger> balt11t, ahhh
[03:51] <billybigrigger> still i'm not helping
[03:51] <escott> courtney_, maybe its not usb (which is odd but possible) try lspci
[03:52] <escott> courtney_, you could also try lshw
[03:52] <billybigrigger> im mean i'm no help...im not an eee user bud :(
[03:52] <balt11t> billybigrigger, March and April ran together in my mind lol
[03:52] <nit-wit> cromag, YOu probably know this it just helps to mention it
[03:52] <escott> courtney_, what model is this system
[03:52] <cromag> nit-wit: well, i never am sure what to pick during dualboot installs
[03:53] <courtney_> escott: uh zareason
[03:53] <cromag> nit-wit: primary logical, beginning end...
[03:53] <courtney_> escott: i can't find a camera in either of those
[03:53] <nit-wit> cromag, as for install it is best to custom install for safety, or have everything cloned.
[03:56] <nit-wit> cromag, here is a link that might helped this is a very good site. http://members.iinet.net.au/~herman546/p23.html
[03:56] <error_404__> hello, umm is the latest version of Virtualbox fixed from its problems with USB?
[03:56] <excedere> error_404__, what usb issues?
[03:57] <gryffus> in case if anyone will find that it is "make M=path/to/module"
[03:57] <wizard1> hey guys, i am having trouble changing id3 tags on my music in ubuntu, i can't edit the tags with either EasyTag or Picard(MusicBrainz), they are stored on an NTFS drive which i am beginning to wonder has any effect on it (i ripped some tracks in ubuntu to the same drive and can't change them either).  and i did check, i have rw access to the files.  any ideas?
[03:58] <error_404__> excedere: it happened in 4.0.6 with something about the usb interface...
[03:58] <escott> courtney_, well val aurora apparently like zareason so thats a plus. not sure what the deal with your camera is. you might try emailing them, or booting an older livecd that does work and seeing if you can identify the camera model in it
[03:58] <cromag> nit-wit: thanks. - lets see how it goes :)
[03:59] <excedere> error_404__, USB is intentionally limited in the free version.. not sure if your issues are tied to that but I've never had an issue with mine
[03:59] <mrdeb> wow
[03:59] <mrdeb> i just felt dizzy
[04:00] <cromag> nit-wit: if i fail, ill try again tomorrow :)
[04:00] <escott> wizard1, shouldnt be. have you tried running easytag from the command line and seeing what errors you get in the terminal window
[04:00] <nit-wit> error_404__, there is a down loadable for usb....etc   VirtualBox 4.0.8 Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack
[04:00] <nit-wit> cromag, goodluck
[04:00] <cromag> thanks
[04:00] <wizard1> escott: good idea, sorry for not trying that
[04:00] <escott> wizard1, nothing to be sorry about.
[04:01] <error_404__> nit-wit: ill try it out, its just my ISP has a 40gb monthly cap and i do not want to go over it :b
[04:01] <courtney_> escott: it says its an intel webcam when i look up my computer online
[04:01] <escott> courtney_, didn't know intel even made webcams
[04:02] <error_404__> nit-wit: plus ill use it to install ubuntu on it with the GNOME-Team PPA to test out GNOME 3
[04:02] <escott> courtney_, can you tell if it is supposed to be usb or what
[04:03] <wizard1> escott: IOError: [Errno 95] Operation not supported
[04:05] <courtney_> escott: well if it used to work with gstreamer, does that mean that it would be usb?
[04:06] <courtney_> escott: or am i just completely wrong
[04:06] <escott> courtney_, doesn't mean much that it used to work with gstreamer. could be anything really. most webcams are usb (its a bus that is reasonably widely available and has the necessary throughput, and wasting a pci slot is unnecessary)
[04:07] <escott> wizard1, sure sounds like something related to ntfs. like an fseek or some other function call that might be used to insert data into the middle of a larger file is not supported. not sure what you can do about it though
[04:07] <escott> wizard1, you could copy the file out to the ext4 partition, modify it there, and then put it back
[04:08] <no-name-> which is the best version of ubuntu in your opinion?
[04:08] <courtney_> escott: well it's this computer if that helps at all > http://zareason.com/shop/Alto-1454.html
[04:08] <wizard1> escott: yeah ill check it out
[04:09] <escott> courtney_, yeah it doesn't really say enough about the hardware. i would (a) see if it works after a complete shutdown (and wait 5 seconds before rebooting), (b) if you can determine the type and driver that used to work, (c) email zareason/try their forums
[04:09] <escott> courtney_, without being able to identify the device its hard to make any progress
[04:10] <courtney_> escott: okay thanks ^^
[04:12] <technoskald> ##re
[04:12] <hanhua> hello
[04:12] <HackThePlanet> what is the ubuntu dev channel?
[04:12] <hanhua> 这里是？
[04:13] <escott> !cn | hanhua
[04:13] <blackshirt> hanhua: hello
[04:13] <hanhua> 你好
[04:13] <WarOp> I'm trying to update some of the packages on my system but wont let me due to untrusted sources, Which I'm using medibuntu repository
[04:14] <wizard1> escott: yeah looks like an ntfs problem, from ext4 it could change the files and move them to the ntfs, it just looks like it can't modify files stored in ntfs
[04:14] <hanhua> yeah
[04:14] <escott> wizard1, it would be interesting to identify what syscall is failing and either report it to easytag or ntfs-3g
[04:15] <wizard1> escott: any reason python would have different ntfs support when ubuntu seems to handle ntfs well enough
[04:15] <wizard1> escott: does ntfs-3g already run on ubuntu?
[04:16] <cromag> nit-wit: success - just booted into ubuntu and afterwards windows. Thanks for your help :)
[04:16] <cromag> sleeep.... now---
[04:16] <escott> wizard1, i think its the way the application is handling the file. its probably trying to write specific bytes or tell the kernel to insert bytes into the middle of the file (and thus avoiding reading the rest of the file and rewriting)
[04:16] <escott> wizard1, you are using ntfs-3g
[04:16] <nit-wit> cromag, cool.;)
[04:17] <tang>  没有中文的吗？
[04:17] <WarOp> Is there a way to update packages on system with having unauthenticated  Sources
[04:17] <escott> !cn | tang
[04:17] <tang> 谢谢
[04:17] <escott> !ko | tang
[04:18] <tang> 在哪个位置输入？
[04:18] <wizard1> escott: yeah that sounds like what is happening, any ideas where to find error report to submit?  sounds like ntfs-3g isn't responsible, but maybe they'd be interested in creating an interface since it is happening on both Amarok, EasyTag, and Picard
[04:18] <NoqturnalX> Why is there no /etc/X11/xorg.conf in Ubuntu? Where does Xorg get it's config?
[04:18] <escott> !jp | tang sorry im guessing
[04:18] <escott> NoqturnalX, autoconfig since about 2 years ago
[04:19] <escott> wizard1, I would start by stracing or gdb'ing the program to figure out what syscall it is that is failing
[04:19] <NoqturnalX> how does that work? I'm trying to enable sound through my hdmi port
[04:19] <escott> NoqturnalX, well thats tricky, but unrelated to xorg
[04:19] <wizard1> escott: alright ill look into it
[04:19] <NoqturnalX> I have a ATI HD Radeon 2600 XT w/ Dual DVI ports and use a HDMI adapter to go to a TV
[04:19] <NoqturnalX> What do I need to learn to do then to figure this out?
[04:20] <escott> NoqturnalX, you have to (a) select the hdmi sound output in pulseaudio (b) pray... at least from what I have gathered from seeing others
[04:21] <jimmie> Im not sure if anyone else uses Deluge, but does it always have to re-check files after a reboot, or is there a way to turn that off?
[04:21] <escott> wizard1, one would think that the fuse (user space fs) should support all syscalls, but maybe these programs are assuming they can use some special linux only ioctl or syscall not supported elsewhere, in which case they should fall back to reading and rewriting the whole file
[04:21] <NoqturnalX> I think just by default it checks files, I've never looked into that though
[04:21] <NoqturnalX> I don't see the harm of deluge checking files on launch tho, but i'll check to see if there's a option to disable it
[04:22] <jimmie> Noqturnal: If it has to check multiple 50gb files
[04:22] <jimmie> Its a pain.
[04:22] <NoqturnalX> I hear ya there lol
[04:22] <darkgod> hola gente
[04:22] <jimmie> Yeah I have like 400gb of stuff im actively seeding
[04:23] <darkgod> alguien que hable español?
[04:23] <jimmie> So its a nightmare
[04:23] <escott> !es | darkgod
[04:23] <darkgod> gracias gracias
[04:23] <escott> darkgod, de nada
[04:25] <NoqturnalX> I didn't see a option in prefs, But to be honest i'm not sure if it's specific to deluge or the torrent protocol
[04:25] <NoqturnalX> I think it checks so it can update the trackers, but im not sure sounds worthy of looking deeper into
[04:25] <escott> NoqturnalX, it is technically part of the protocol, but its a bit obnoxious to not trust the system
[04:26] <jimmie> Hmm.
[04:26] <NoqturnalX> Yea I figured it might be part of the protocol itself lol
[04:27] <escott> NoqturnalX, if it didn't check the files then the user could modify the files and it would start sending bad blocks out thus DoS the other users
[04:27] <NoqturnalX> I got a seedbox for such things that never turns off or goes down so I don't really worry bout that stuff
[04:27] <escott> that said if i wanted to DoS the other users I would write my own client to do exactly that
[04:27] <NoqturnalX> Yea I can see reasons why it's part of the protocol.
[04:28] <jimmie> It is mildly tedious though
[04:28] <Cuervo> I am using nestopia and having issues with the screen sort of wrapping around at the top and the bottom when I move in some games. I understand that this was how the Nes behaved and that TV's clipped that part, so is there a way to clip the top and bottom?
[04:28] <escott> jimmie, the only thing I can to check is the timestamps, just in case your timestamps are presenting it as modified after the last time the program closed
[04:28] <jimmie> Cuervo: A bit of masking tape?
[04:28] <jimmie> Ah, will do escott. Cheers.
[04:28] <NoqturnalX> There's actually been a few times where I've downloaded a new Linux distro via torrent and it say's it's complete but if I do a recheck it always found a corrupted piece lol
[04:28] <jimmie> Thanks to you NoqturnalX as well
[04:29] <NoqturnalX> No prob, I like Deluge
[04:29] <NoqturnalX> the other client I used to use was the older versions of Azureus
[04:29] <Cuervo> jimmie: Heh, I would like to avoid having to remove tape from my monitor every time I stopped playing
[04:29] <jimmie> ;)
[04:30] <k_sze> Does anybody know how to setup SLIP in Ubuntu?
[04:31] <NoqturnalX> So I read researching my HDMI problem that by default the ati driver compiles with audio disabled. Is there a way to turn it on? I think i'm using the xserver-xorg-video-ati driver
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[04:31] <escott> !botattack
[04:31] <NoqturnalX> I hate that crap
[04:31] <Nobgul-BNC> >_<
[04:31] <escott> NoqturnalX, i thought it was a different driver
[04:31] <djmaster> can any one help me im runing jolicloud and i cant seam to find a hardware tool to enable my wireless help?
[04:32] <NoqturnalX> That should have died with MySpace
[04:32] <Nobgul-BNC> What would be the best way to setup vpn on the newest ubuntu server?
[04:32] <escott> !vpn
[04:32] <NoqturnalX> Well I heard I should use xserver-xorg-video-radeon but when I tried that it didn't work as well as the driver i'm using now
[04:32] <Nobgul-BNC> cheers escott
[04:32] <jiohdi> what is SASL?
[04:32] <escott> jiohdi, some variant of SSL. ignore it
[04:33] <NoqturnalX> Sh*** As* Secure LInk???
[04:33] <zxwf> :)
[04:33] <jiohdi> why ignore it?
[04:33] <NoqturnalX> I just made that up
[04:33] <NoqturnalX> cause it was spam
[04:33] <escott> !botattack | jiohdi
[04:33] <Nobgul-BNC> Simple Authentication and Security Layer
[04:33] <Nobgul-BNC> is what it stands for.
[04:34] <NoqturnalX> No security is simple :P Otherwise it's not very secure is it?
[04:34] <Nobgul-BNC> lol
[04:34] <NoqturnalX> So i'm going back with my original made up "Sh*t A*s Security Link" :D
[04:34] <balleyne> Ubuntu keeps prompting me to install proprietary drivers for my HP printer every time I log in, but I've already got it installed and working with free drivers. How can I turn this off? Is there some HP proprietary printing package I can uninstall?
[04:35] <ZykoticK9> balleyne, are you serious?  oh man, that's a new low for Ubuntu
[04:35] <escott> balleyne, you could uninstall jockey
[04:35] <centHOGG> lower than twitter
[04:36] <balleyne> ZykoticK9: dead serious... not just prompting me either, but bringing up a gksudo dialog and asking me for my admin password all ready to go!
[04:36] <Nobgul-BNC> lol
[04:37] <ZykoticK9> balleyne, i think you must has installed something for that to happen.  jockey isn't usually that "in your face"
[04:37] <NoqturnalX> how can you tell which driver your using from terminal?
[04:37] <NoqturnalX> for video
[04:37] <escott> ZykoticK9, i think it is for hot-plug devices
[04:37] <NoqturnalX> I wanna see if i'm using xserver-xorg-video-ati
[04:37] <ZykoticK9> escott, wow - that's all i have to say ;)  thanks.
[04:37] <escott> NoqturnalX, combination of glxinfo, lsmod
[04:37] <centHOGG> lsmod grep
[04:38] <escott> ZykoticK9, its kinda nice for random printers you might find in a lab
[04:38] <ZykoticK9> NoqturnalX, 2 options: 1 - "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" or 2 - "lspci -vnvn" find the VGA section and 'kernel driver in use' line.
[04:39] <Nobgul-BNC> The terminal banner on ssh login has some information about server useage as well as  updates. how to i disable that i juust want to use the reg /etc/motd file
[04:39] <balleyne> escott: thanks, I'll take a look
[04:39] <escott> Nobgul-BNC, check your /etc/ssh/ config
[04:39] <balleyne> ZykoticK9: quite possible... trying to figure out exactly what it is that's popping up. hmm..
[04:40] <ZykoticK9> balleyne, escott suggested it could be from hot-plug
[04:40] <escott> balleyne, if you wanted to be surgical there is probably some udev rule you can tweak
[04:41] <Nobgul-BNC> escott, the only thing i see that is close to the banner is #Banner /etc/issue.net
[04:41] <escott> balleyne, but if jockey were doing that to me I would just chmod -x it :)
[04:41] <balleyne> ZykoticK9, escott: hmm, yeah, does seem like a hot-plug type thing, I believe it's on log in, or when I turn the printer from off to on while logged in
[04:42] <balleyne> escott: hahaha it may well come to that... it's a family room computer, so I'm not logging in super often, but still pretty annoying
[04:43] <Nobgul-BNC> yer there is nothing in there escott.
[04:43] <escott> Nobgul-BNC, could it be in /etc/profile?
[04:44] <Nobgul-BNC> Well when i edit the banner file /etc/motd its already got the information in there. So i guess there is something that fills that file at set times weither its at login or on a cron.
[04:44] <escott> Nobgul-BNC, i don't have the server openssh-server so  have no such banner... not sure why it would be different on desktop though
[04:44] <Nobgul-BNC> Not sure escott
[04:45] <NoqturnalX> hmm.... So I'm not using Ubuntu exactly but a distro built off Ubuntu (backtrack) and it's running KDE 4, in KMIX I see 2 tabs for 2 different sound cards. I want to use the HDMI one which shows up as IEC958 but there's no volume slider there. I type in arecord -l and only get the onboard card ALC888 Analog
[04:45] <Nobgul-BNC> It is just annoying because i would like to set my own banner for customers ie: type get egg to install blah blah. Unless I can make the system read a text file after each login?
[04:46] <bodiecon> heading out of town and trying to configure remote desktop.  everything works but i still have to hit accept on desktop for session to begin.  i have enabled UPnP on router but still can't login.  is there a way around this?  what am i missing?
[04:46] <Nobgul-BNC> bodiecon, i had the same issue. I ended up using vncserver
[04:47] <quiescens> Nobgul-BNC: motd stuff is most likely generated by the files in /etc/update-motd.d
[04:47] <Nobgul-BNC> took about 3 mins to setup and get running
[04:47] <Nobgul-BNC> quiescens, I will check that now thank you
[04:47] <bodiecon> Nobgul-BNC: hmm.  i'll look into that.
[04:48] <Nobgul-BNC> It runs pretty good. I am happy with it. Allows me to have it running on my dedicated and login to a dekstop for diff things
[04:49] <Nobgul-BNC> quiescens, those are deff the files that are populating the motd. If i just delete them will something bad happen?
[04:49] <escott> Nobgul-BNC, better practice to chmod -x them, but check if cron is running them
[04:50] <Nobgul-BNC> nevermind seems like i will just add a new script there and let it read a file.
[04:50] <Nobgul-BNC> I think cat filename would work
[04:50] <Nobgul-BNC> Ill figure it out but atleast i found the files i need to play with
[04:51] <bodiecon> Nobgul-BNC: i just want to be able to grab files and throw into dropbox or something if i need it while i'm gone
[04:51] <bodiecon> thanks
[04:51] <escott> bodiecon, if all you need is file access try ssh
[04:51] <Nobgul-BNC> No worries. you could always ssh in as well. I have my dropbox setup for the dir. I just ftp the files into the incomming dir then cp them over
[04:52] <toad`> cp is illegal
[04:52] <toad`> im telling
[04:52] <bodiecon> escott: yeah i looked at that but being new to linux i'm still trying to learn the command line stuff.  vnc will be much easier for now.
[04:53] <Nobgul-BNC> lol
[04:53] <escott> bodiecon, ill bet you spend more time setting up vnc than it would take to learn the 3 cli commands you need :)
[04:53] <bodiecon> escott:  you might be right!!!! lol!
[04:54] <lagbolt> hello.  i have a usb webcam that uses the ov519 module.  it works on my laptop but on desktop i get a probe error -22.  the two machines are both running 64bit 11.04, same kern. both are intel based.  any ideas?
[04:54] <escott> bodiecon, ssh can also provide sftp which you could use a gui from
[04:56] <bodiecon> escott: well then let me look in to that as well.  i've installed securessh already
[04:56] <Nobgul-BNC> quiescens, escott, thank you my motd is finally working
[04:57] <tripelb> I made my icon text bigger but now it's all big and slim so that I only get a few letters per line. where do I go to make the icons wider.
[04:57] <escott> bodiecon, just apt-get install openssh-server; then try to sftp localhost. put in your password and ls. you should see your home directory
[04:57] <escott> bodiecon, if that works then you can try using fireftp or some other gui
[04:58] <Nobgul-BNC> winscp is also nice.
[04:58] <Nobgul-BNC> if you using a winblows box
[04:58] <bodiecon> escott: looking into it now.  thanks
[04:58] <centHOGG> xp!
[04:58] <GTRsdk> on Natty, after the computer shows the BIOS screen it says out of range.  Now it wont load at all.  I may have installed that when trying to find the right driver, but I'd got the printer working with foo2xqx instead. With hplip uninstalled, no longer prompted for installation every the I log in / connect the print.  I am seeing chat.  go thee to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:04] <TheLifelessOne> Hi, I have a complicated question. Is it possible to move to Ubuntu from a debian-based installation?
[05:04] <tripelb> I made my icon text bigger but now it's all big and slim so that I only get a few letters per line. where do I go to make the icons wider.
[05:04] <benzaldehyde> pissedkid your body turns everything into ATP which is adenosine triphosphate.. before that it turns it into glucose which sugar.. eat whatever u want
[05:04] <SubCool> TheLifelessOne, Headache
[05:04] <tripelb> go away chatters
[05:04] <TheLifelessOne> SubCool, no other option for me. I haven't any discs I can burn to. :/
[05:04] <SubCool> im waiting on help too
[05:05] <benzaldehyde> the sugar you have to stay away from is the complex carbohydrates, polysaccharides
[05:05] <tripelb> TheLifelessOne, I'm no expert but you cant do that. You have to install ubuntu on it's own partition.
[05:05] <Flannel> benzaldehyde: Your body doesn't turn it into ATP, and I'd be happy to explain further in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[05:05] <tripelb> !op
[05:05] <TheLifelessOne> tripelb, really? :/
[05:05] <benzaldehyde> flannel stfu it does
[05:05] <SubCool> ya seriously?
[05:05]  * wildgoose igoners Flannel, benzaldehyde, pissedkid
[05:05] <escott> TheLifelessOne, theoretically, but lots of things are different. its certainly not supported
[05:05]  * SubCool tripelb is a baby
[05:06] <benzaldehyde> who the hell did that and why
[05:06] <SubCool> hey escott, thanks for the help before..
[05:06] <tripelb> TheLifelessOne, YOu cant even go from ubuntu to ubuntu without doing it one udate at a time.
[05:06] <Flannel> SubCool: Please take offtopic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic.  You can be in more than one channel at a time.
[05:06] <SubCool> i wasnt able to apply the script because i walked away. But- i knew where to find it.
[05:06] <TheLifelessOne> tripelib, well I've got time, but no discs I can burn to. :/
[05:06] <tripelb> and TheLifelessOne it's a good idea because if it doesnt work you still have the working debian partition to use.
[05:06] <crephoto> i have a question about packaging... would this be the place to ask it?
[05:06] <SubCool> Flannel, yes i can- but im not going to.
[05:06] <balleyne> crephoto: just ask, probably
[05:06] <tripelb> TheLifelessOne, you can do it on a usb flash drive
[05:06] <TheLifelessOne> I'm not so concerned about the partition, honestly.
[05:06] <crephoto> kk
[05:07] <Flannel> SubCool: That's fine, as long as you remain ontopic in this channel.
[05:07] <SubCool> Flannel, if u know anything about flash.. that'll get me out quicker..
[05:07] <TheLifelessOne> tripelb, BIOS doesn't support that. :/
[05:07] <tripelb> TheLifelessOne, please use my nick in every line when you are talking to me.
[05:07] <tripelb> TheLifelessOne, ty
[05:07] <TheLifelessOne> tripelb, sorry. :/
[05:07] <tripelb> ah I see the lifelessone, older comuter than my 2004 one.  Then have someone else make you a liveCD
[05:08] <pissedkid> Chupe mantequilla de mi culo
[05:08] <tripelb> ah I see the lifelessone, older comuter than my 2004 one.  Then have someone else make you a liveCD  TheLifelessOne
[05:08] <escott> TheLifelessOne, you could try booting a vm of the install cd and then installing to a raw image... then chroot in to install the bootloader
[05:08] <TheLifelessOne> tripelb, 'tis a very old computer.
[05:08] <benzaldehyde> flannel you havent said one ontopic thing since i got here other than to hand ring everyone else what do you even do here
[05:08] <TheLifelessOne> escott, I wouldn't even know where to get started with that. :/
[05:08] <crephoto> right now, the blender package is behind the currently released version... if i wanted to package the current version and post it to the repos, how would i do that/where should i go to find out?
[05:09] <SultansElephant> find the ppa
[05:09] <escott> TheLifelessOne, there is an ubuntu minimal netboot. you might try that. its the closest to a debian bootstrap that i am aware of
[05:09] <SultansElephant> like
[05:09] <benzaldehyde> if anyone needs a lesson on topics its you, look up socrates, he inveted topics
[05:09] <SultansElephant> luke
[05:09] <tripelb> TheLifelessOne, I cant understand what escott said. sHe's a better source. I hand you over... HEH
[05:09] <SubCool> KICK BUTT benzaldehyde
[05:09] <TheLifelessOne> escott: there's a netboot of that?
[05:09] <benzaldehyde> ,,!,,, flannel t-shirt sit n spin
[05:10] <tripelb> escott, doesnt installing ubuntu on a partition erase everything on that partition?
[05:10] <TheLifelessOne> tripelb, all my data is backed up.
[05:10] <escott> TheLifelessOne, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[05:10] <escott> tripelb, i would think so
[05:10] <TheLifelessOne> escott: Thanks
[05:10] <balleyne> crephoto: not sure myself, but looks like there was a packaging guide put out recently: http://iloveubuntu.net/ubuntu-packaging-guide-out-easy-logic-presentation-lucid-maverick-natty
[05:10] <mylisto> hey folks
[05:11] <crephoto> balleyne: thnx, ill check it out
[05:11] <mrcreativity> can someone please tell me how can enable show desktop in unity.
[05:11] <tripelb> TheLifelessOne, ah so escott has an answer better than asking for a liveCD (triplelb remembers this)
[05:11] <balleyne> crephoto: oh, better link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[05:11] <crephoto> mrcreativity: have you tried <super>+d ?
[05:11] <crephoto> kk
[05:11] <tripelb> question, can I repartion my hard drive in a way that I dont lose my data. I have used 15% of it.
[05:12] <mrcreativity> sorry if i want clear...i didnt mean show desktop, i wanted something like show all windows
[05:12] <SubCool> Flash anyone?
[05:12] <Nobgul-BNC> SubCool, what is the flash question?
[05:12] <crephoto> then you should try <super>+w
[05:12] <SubCool> can someone help with flash, i was watching anime and it crashed. Now it wont load at all. I have uninstalled it, and reinstalled via Software manager, i have uninstalled and reinstalled FLAHS-aid for firefox.
[05:12] <tripelb> mrcreativity, click on the thing in the panel that shows desktop then click on it again to reveal all deaktops. It's a purple square way on the left for me.
[05:12] <Starminn> mrcreativity: There's Compiz Scale. Works in 10.10, I don't use 11.04 so I couldn't say
[05:13] <tripelb> subcool. try installing chrome.
[05:13] <Nobgul-BNC> SubCool, Did you reboot the system?
[05:13] <balleyne> SubCool: what happens when you try to view a flash video? grey box? crash? nothing loads?
[05:13] <tripelb> good call for subcool.
[05:13] <SubCool> i have chrome
[05:13] <SubCool> i have rebooted a few times
[05:13] <mrcreativity> something like what super + w does...but with the mouse. i have it enabled in gnome classic using cssm, i cant figure out how to do it in unity
[05:14] <Flannel> tripelb: Please don't give annoying answers like that.  Thanks.
[05:14] <SubCool> um.. when i try to load a poage with flash, it says i do not have flash
[05:14] <Nobgul-BNC> mrcreativity, mouse gestures ish?
[05:14] <tripelb> flannel, I beg your pardon?
[05:14] <benzaldehyde1> ineffectual operator
[05:14] <Flannel> tripelb: "How do I get flash working in firefox" "Install chrome" is not a helpful answer.
[05:14] <mrcreativity> yeah...sorry for not being able to find the correct words...im kinda stupid today morning
[05:14] <Nobgul-BNC> mrcreativity: It's ok.
[05:15] <benzaldehyde1> is that what you do give everyone grief
[05:15] <balleyne> SubCool: oooh... in multiple browsers? Do you get the same results in Chrome *and* FIrefox, or is it only giving you trouble in one browser?
[05:15] <Omega> benzaldehyde: Please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, this is not the correct channel for those comments.
[05:15] <crephoto> mrcreativity: you can use ccsm in unity... unless you already tried that
[05:15] <Nobgul-BNC> mrcreativity, you can install gestikk as well, I am almost sure that is for mouse genstures.
[05:15] <tripelb> flannel, first he didnt say that. He wanted to see his anime. And we are all learning. If you install chrome and it works then you isolate the problem. I've never heard anyone so rute in all the years I have been here but then I dont tend to remember the rude ones.
[05:15] <SubCool> balleyne, both browsers
[05:15] <CodenameStrike> I thought Unity's behavior is controlled by CCSM?
[05:16]  * tripelb leaves
[05:16] <escott> CodenameStrike, to some extent
[05:17] <SubCool> balleyne, Nobgul-BNC tripelb - i have this problem frequently- Ill be watching anime. then it'll randomly crash. Then i have nothing until i reinstall everything.   But as far as enabling Unity options is concerned the options are in CCSM I guess
[05:19] <CodenameStrike> mouse gestures on the other hand, I think it's not related to Unity
[05:19] <SubCool> I have Firefox 4, and there is nothing with flash in my plugins
[05:19] <escott> CodenameStrike, it uses compiz so ccsm still takes effect, but the unity-panel is not exposed in ccsm so you can't configure it that way
[05:19] <SubCool> Omega,
[05:20] <Omega> SubCool: There should be an entry called "Shockwave Flash" if it is not there, flash is not installed.
[05:20] <SubCool> Omega, i only have picasa, skype and iced-tea in my plguins
[05:20] <Nobgul-BNC> SubCool: type About:Plugins in the address bar
[05:20] <Omega> Nobgul-BNC: If it is not where I told him to look, it won't be in about:plugins.
[05:20] <CodenameStrike> escott: I see
[05:20] <benzaldehyde3> you pickle chasing queen
[05:20] <centHOGG> again
[05:20] <benzaldehyde3> couldn't operate a walkman
[05:20] <SubCool> Omega, Nobgul-BNC neither
[05:21] <benzaldehyde3> cant even stand your ground and fight you kick and ban
[05:21] <benzaldehyde3> whimp
[05:21] <benzaldehyde3> ,,!,,
[05:21] <k_sze> How does SLIP really work? Do I just attach a TCP/IP interface to a serial line using slattach, and *assume* there is somebody at the other end of the serial line?
[05:21] <Omega> SubCool: run the following command: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[05:21] <escott> Flannel, you keep banning him before I can ignore him. stop it ;)
[05:23] <SubCool> Omega, already installed
[05:23] <SubCool> Omega, flashplugin-installer is already the newest version.
[05:24] <kaushal> Hi
[05:24] <balleyne> SubCool, Omega: could it up an update-alternatives thing? I remember using that tool a few versions of Ubuntu back when switching between Gnash and Flash...
[05:24] <balleyne> SubCool, Omega: not sure if that's relevant for 11.04 though
[05:26] <b_enz_aldehyde4> a sphincter bans b_enz_aldehyde4
[05:26] <Omega> SubCool: What did you do with Flash-aid?
[05:26] <SubCool> uninstalled it once flash crashed. rebooted. reinstalled
[05:26] <kaushal> I have connected Huawei Technologies EC 156 Tata Photon+ Data Card to Ubuntu 11.04, pastebin here -> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/628261/ Please suggest.
[05:27] <escott> SubCool, its possible your firefox profile is confused. you might try rm -rf .firefox/plugins or some such
[05:27] <SubCool> i work off of chrome
[05:27] <SubCool> escott, i suppose but doubt it.
[05:28] <SubCool> Omega, escott i use chrome, but im not use to chrome. And i know when i install flash via Firefox, it fixes it. SO- i dot know if messing with the firefox profile is going to work.
[05:28] <Omega> SubCool: run the following command: sudo apt-get purge flashplugin-installer && sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[05:28] <PCdoc> i dun understand why ubuntu finds updates for touchscreen when I dun have one :-s
[05:28] <PCdoc> is there linux version for chrome :-o ??
[05:29] <Nobgul-BNC> Yes
[05:29] <escott> PCdoc, chromium is in the repos
[05:29] <escott> !info chromium-browser | PCdoc
[05:29] <SubCool> Omega, done
[05:30] <PCdoc> its available on google.com/chrome too .. i just saw
[05:30] <SubCool> Omega, Fixed
[05:30] <escott> SubCool, you do have the browser closed while you do this right?
[05:30] <balleyne> kaushal: what are you trying to do with that device?
[05:30] <SubCool> escott,  ya
[05:30] <kaushal> balleyne: Its a USB Data Card
[05:30] <Lasivian> heya
[05:30] <SubCool> Omega, TY!!!
[05:31] <Lasivian> how can I make a sshell script run as a cron job under another user account?
[05:31] <SubCool> escott, ty!
[05:31] <Omega> SubCool: No problem :)
[05:31] <Guest82337> PCdoc: You want chromium. It's just same as Google Chrome without that extra icky tracking stuffs.
[05:31] <balleyne> PCdoc: Chrome is the proprietary version, Chromium is open source. Slight differences, e.g. with Chromium from the repos, you'll get updates and such through Ubuntu's update manager, doesn't have Google branding
[05:31] <_ben_zalde_hyd_e> a sphincter bans _ben_zalde_hyd_e5
[05:31] <_ben_zalde_hyd_e> a sphincter bans _ben_zalde_hyd_e5
[05:31] <_ben_zalde_hyd_e> a sphincter bans _ben_zalde_hyd_e5
[05:31] <FloodBot1> _ben_zalde_hyd_e: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:31] <Lasivian> sudo -u username /location/script.sh fails because it's not acting as that user
[05:31] <escott> Lasivian, username is part of crontab
[05:31] <Lasivian> escott: oh, duh.. you;re right
[05:31] <Lasivian> thanks
[05:32] <PCdoc> kaushal: u need to install wvdial in terminal fire this command  >> sudo apt-get install wvdial
[05:32] <kaushal> PCdoc: Can i get it configured using NM ?
[05:32] <escott> Lasivian, if its an actual user with login it would be better to su to them and then use the standard method to make sure they can edit it (if you want them to be able to edit their own cron entries)
[05:33] <PCdoc> kaushal: m using reliance usb data card and i use wvdial .. without nay probs :P
[05:33] <moegreen> anbody else lose audio from the headphone port when going to 11.04?
[05:33] <moegreen> bugging the heck out of me
[05:33] <praxgen> lose audio??
[05:33] <escott> moegreen, there was a regression in the intel-hda profiles, eventually got better for me
[05:33] <moegreen> what can i do?
[05:34] <balleyne> moegreen: what sound card do you have?
[05:34] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu  Classic (No effects)] I have lost the notification area and all applets in the right-hand half of the upper pane. How to get them back?
[05:34] <moegreen> uh let me check..its onboard my asus sabertooth
[05:35] <Omega> bullgard4: what did you do that resulted in them being lost?
[05:35] <moegreen> via VT2020
[05:35] <Jaded> hey hey
[05:36] <bullgard4> Omega: I tried to repair a nasty bug: To get rid of an unknown keybinding of the F12 key.
[05:36] <bullgard4> s/pane/panel/
[05:37] <Jaded> found a problem with my install
[05:37] <Jaded> :D
[05:37] <Jaded> cat ./proc/interrupts
[05:37] <Jaded> IRQ was taken by my video card AND eth0
[05:38] <Jaded> put my eth0 in different pci slot, problem solved
[05:38] <balleyne> moegreen: I'm not quite sure how to fix your problem, and I've got to run, but worth asking again with mention of your sound card, or maybe searching the web on that -- probably to do with your specific card under 11.04
[05:38] <opakavic> hi everyone
[05:38] <moegreen> ok thx
[05:46] <thunder1212> hi
[05:49] <pksadiq> FloodBot1: Why are you blocking all the ips ?
[05:49] <pksadiq> Flannel: Why are you blocking all the ips ?
[05:51] <Lee_Prison> hey
[05:53] <thunder1212> how to optimize xubuntu it seems to be using 100
[05:53] <thunder1212> % of my cpu
[05:53] <Lee_Prison> this is my command:"I love you "|od -t x1 -An test |tr -s "\n"   ,but i can't remove the "\n|
[05:53] <Lee_Prison> help
[05:53] <thunder1212>  i have very little ram 348 mb only
[05:53] <ZykoticK9> thunder1212, find out what is actually using your CPU, in a terminal you can use "top"
[05:54] <ZykoticK9> thunder1212, also, Lunbuntu is MUCH lighter then xubuntu for low power systems.
[05:54] <Jaded> thunder1212: i was having a few issues like that a few hours ago.
[05:55] <Jaded> 512MB ram for me, was it a pure xubuntu install?
[05:55] <Jaded> what graphics drivers are you using?
[05:55] <bullgard4> [Ubuntu  Classic (No effects)] I have lost the »Indicator Applet Session« applet. How to bring it back to my panel?
[05:55] <Lee_Prison> here is my command:"I love you "|od -t x1 -An test |tr -s "\n" " "             I want to remove the \n,,,,,but how ?
[05:56] <Airris> So i need to update a package controlled by synaptic to a newer version i compiled from source. Said package is libjpeg and has dependencies in the hundreds. Is there some way to do this without having to reinstall pretty much everything?
[05:56] <Lee_Prison> here is my command:"I love you "|od -t x1 -An |tr -s "\n" " "             I want to remove the \n,,,,,but how ?
[05:56] <Flannel> Lee_Prison: Please stop that.
[05:56] <Lee_Prison> sorry