[12:04] <_sam> i almost think i like this KDE better than gnome...
[12:05] <bobbyd> how do I update hoary to breezy just over the net?
[12:05] <chavo> _sam, give it a little more time and you'll learn to love it
[12:06] <chavo> !upgradetobreezy
[12:06] <ubotu> chavo: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[12:06] <chavo> bobbyd, yes it's very easy
[12:06] <_sam> bobbyd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade here is something
[12:07] <_sam> but!
[12:07] <_sam> When I did my dist-upgrade xchat and gaim stopped working.
[12:07] <libben> http://kubuntuforums.net/index.php?topic=575.0
[12:07] <chavo> basically change all instances of hoary to breezy in your sources.list
[12:07] <_sam> I just have a problem with the KDE name and the fact that all apps start with K.
[12:08] <chavo> I downloaded the iso though, because I want to use it for other computers
[12:08] <chavo> _sam, nothing a little therapy won't fix
[12:08] <chavo> did you take your happy piulls today?
[12:08] <bobbyd> _sam, thanks
[12:08] <_sam> I guess I'll learn to live with it.
[12:09] <_sam> Why doesn't Konversation(ugh) have any server lists included with it?
[12:10] <_sam> Kde has its own sudo? kdesu?
[12:12] <Chousuke> I always think of japanese when I see kdesu :P
[12:13] <phoenixbyrd> can I ask a rather dumb question that'll prolly get me flamed ...
[12:13] <Chousuke> try.
[12:13] <Chousuke> :P
[12:13] <phoenixbyrd> the linux kernel is the actual OS, right?
[12:13] <chavo> phoenixbyrd, let me spark up my flamethrower
[12:13] <Chousuke> phoenixbyrd: It depends on interpretation
[12:14] <phoenixbyrd> I mean.... every distro uses the same linux kernel... so, what's the actual differences between each distro beside's what's bundled with the kernel?
[12:14] <Chousuke> phoenixbyrd: The actual kernel alone is pretty useless without any userspace utilities :/
[12:14] <Chousuke> phoenixbyrd: exactly what's bundled with the kernel :P
[12:14] <Chousuke> that makes a HUGE difference.
[12:15] <phoenixbyrd> right, but ther kernel IS the OS, even without the apps... right? or am I just not getting it.  I just don't understand these stupid distro wars between the more hardcore linux user's.... it's the same fucking OS to me
[12:17] <xtacocorex> i think that linux is linux and no matter what, there is still a learning curve to it
[12:17] <Chousuke> phoenixbyrd: Kubuntu and slackware can be considered different OSes built on the same core. :)
[12:17] <chavo> it is the same, what people fail to see is that Linux is about choice
[12:17] <crimsun> we should move beyond the trifling issues of what to call it "properly" and resume creating the infrastructure that allows freedom of choice. That is, after all, what Ubuntu - and thus Kubuntu - is all about.
[12:17] <chavo> and freedom, it is not about being leet
[12:17] <Chousuke> phoenixbyrd: slack and kubuntu work differently enough, wouldn't you agree?
[12:18] <phoenixbyrd> I chose kubuntu because of how easy it is... it's my main desktop/gamming os now and I need my wife and kids... and idk anything about slack. couldn't get it installed so I gave up on it
[12:18] <phoenixbyrd> bleh, need sumthing easy for my wife n kids
[12:18] <Chousuke> Then Kubuntu is good for tou :)
[12:18] <Chousuke> you*
[12:18] <Chousuke> slack is different, and it will work for others.
[12:18] <phoenixbyrd> this guy is just being a fucking lil faggot
[12:18] <Chousuke> No use calling him names.
[12:19] <chavo> phoenixbyrd, I've been using linux since '99 and have used just about all of the major distros.  :P
[12:22] <libben> im trying to get some understanding in this.
[12:23] <geiseri> Riddell: my media kio issues?
[12:23] <geiseri> Riddell: it seems that nothing will show up in the media directory
[12:23] <geiseri> on login though it will mount one of my usb drives though
[12:23] <Riddell> geiseri: I was meaning what's a pismo powerbook
[12:24] <geiseri> Riddell: ah, its the second generation G3 powerbook
[12:24] <Riddell> libben: menu being k-menu?
[12:24] <geiseri> Riddell: 400Mhz, 378Mb ram, rage128 card
[12:24] <Chousuke> heh
[12:24] <Riddell> geiseri: oh aye, think I saw you with that at some conference
[12:24] <Chousuke> I have a G4 powerbook. Dunno which G
[12:24] <geiseri> Riddell: yeah i have had it since fall 2000
[12:24] <Chousuke> 1.33MHz and 1.25Gb of ram. :)
[12:24] <Riddell> geiseri: well I can give you the fix if you want to compile it but compiling kdebase on that thing might take some time
[12:25] <geiseri> Riddell: yeah, i can wait for the update
[12:25] <libben> Riddell: if u mean the big K in the left bottom then yes =) the K menu
[12:26] <Riddell> libben: do you have adept installed?  can you run it from the command line?
[12:26] <libben> i installed adept after i upgraded to final breezy, and yes i can run it.
[12:26] <libben> but i should run it with kdesu?
[12:27] <Riddell> libben: try running kbuildsycoca and see if it then appears in k-menu->system
[12:28] <xtacocorex> is there anyway i can get kopete to run faster in hoary?
[12:29] <libben> kbuildsycoca is that something i should install?
[12:29] <Riddell> libben: it comes with KDE, run it on the command line
[12:30] <libben> yes, just noticed it, i did it with sudo
[12:30] <libben> alot of warnings
[12:30] <libben> just ignoring the warnings?
[12:30] <Riddell> don't run it with sudo
[12:30] <Riddell> ignore the warnings
[12:31] <libben> well i was needed to run it with sudo
[12:31] <libben> otherwise i would get some errors
[12:32] <libben> Riddell: http://libben.pastebin.com/394846
[12:32] <libben> after line 9, its with sudo...
[12:33] <Riddell> kbuildsycoca: ERROR creating database '/var/tmp/kdecache-libben/ksycoca'!
[12:33] <Riddell> kbuildsycoca: Wrong permissions on directory? Disk full?
[12:33] <Riddell> that'll be your error then, wrong permissions
[12:33] <libben> and why is this ?
[12:33] <Riddell> libben: ls -l /var/tmp/kdecache-libben/ksycoca
[12:34] <libben> -rw-r--r--  1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-10-16 00:29 /var/tmp/kdecache-libben/ksycoca
[12:35] <libben> so what do i do? change so its libben libben instead of root?
[12:36] <Riddell> libben: sudo chown libben.libeen -R /var/tmp/kdecache-libben/
[12:36] <libben> u mean libben.libben in there =) and not libeen
[12:36] <_P_> hi riddel
[12:37] <_P_> hi Riddell
[12:38] <Riddell> libben: whatever your username and group is
[12:38] <libben> how do i know that
[12:38] <Riddell> group will be same as username
[12:38] <EnorMOZ> does kftpgrabber work for kubuntu-breezy ??
[12:38] <Riddell> username is libben
[12:38] <_P_> someone using openoffice2 on amd64 ?
[12:38] <Riddell> hi _P_
[12:38] <_P_> it daesnt work :(
[12:38] <Riddell> _P_: there's no openoffice.org2-kde package if that's your question
[12:38] <libben> Riddell: so thats all? now it should all be updated?
[12:39] <Riddell> libben: run kbuildsycoca again
[12:39] <Riddell> without sudo
[12:39] <libben> allready done that =) so much i could figure out =)
[12:39] <Riddell> don't ever run KDE programs with sudo, it will break things in random ways
[12:39] <_P_> the problem is not oo2-kde but just all oo2
[12:39] <_P_> it daesnt start
[12:39] <libben> kdesu is good though?
[12:40] <Riddell> yes
[12:40] <libben> hmm
[12:42] <fatejudger> adept keeps freezing when I try and uninstall two or more packages at a time
[12:43] <fatejudger> can I fix this somehow?
[12:43] <fatejudger> like, a workaround
[12:44] <EnorMOZ> Does anyone have kftpgrabber working with breezy ??
[12:46] <jrattner1> i dont see anything in adept
[12:47] <libben> shouldent katapult be seen in Kmenu?
[12:49] <Riddell> libben: no, it doesn't have a menu entry
[12:49] <Riddell> libben: you might have something else assigned to the alt+space shortcut
[12:53] <libben> i have terminal assigned to winkey and space
[12:53] <libben> how can i check the shortcuts?
[12:56] <libben> can i turn of KDE Write Daemon?
[12:56] <libben> its just one pc in my home
[12:57] <Riddell> yes
[12:57] <Riddell> look in system settings for shortcuts
[12:59] <foodcoman> Greetingz!
[01:07] <troth> i installed breezy as recommended in here with the instructions from wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade, but now the desktop will not load at all and i cannot run a live cd from my dvd drive pls help
[01:07] <samu2> does kubuntu come with xchat?
[01:08] <chavo> samu2, no use konvesation or apt-get install xhat
[01:09] <samu2> I have to re-install my system and am trying to figure if it would be less painful to go with kubuntu or ubuntu.
[01:16] <samu2> At least it seems like #ubuntu is more active :)
[01:19] <foodcoman> samu2: Ubuntu is the base.  KDE is the elected choice of the desktop.
[01:19] <samu2> I know that.
[01:19] <foodcoman> So are do you like Gnome or KDE?
[01:19] <samu2> Haven't made up my mind yet.
[01:20] <foodcoman> Ah, then run both.
[01:20] <Tm_T> samu2: KDE <3<3
[01:20] <foodcoman> You can install Ubuntu and add KDE or visa versa.
[01:20] <Tm_T> no, forget gnome, gnome is just a good looking whore
[01:20] <samu2> But when you install both, you get like two calculators and two text editors and your menus get all cluttered up.
[01:20] <Tm_T> err, less good looking
[01:20] <Tm_T> ] ;=
[01:20] <foodcoman> Tm_T: has got my back!   =)
[01:21] <samu2> So why do you prefer KDE to gnome?
[01:21] <foodcoman> Or run 2 machines for awhile till you find what you like.
[01:22] <samu2> foodcoman i actually have a second machine here. but i run XP on it so i can use my TV card and itunes.
[01:22] <Tm_T> KDE <3<3<3
[01:22] <troth> pls help
[01:22] <samu2> it is also my ubuntu test machine so it has gnome, KDE and xfce on it.
[01:23] <foodcoman> I am booting between XP Pro and Kubuntu.... Until I get my Hauppauge pvr-350 working with Myth or something.
[01:23] <foodcoman> Troth:  Ask and maybe someone knows.
[01:23] <troth> i installed breezy as recommended in here with the instructions from wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade, but now the desktop will not load at all and i cannot run a live cd from my dvd drive pls help
[01:23] <foodcoman> did you upgrade?
[01:24] <troth> yes i followed all the instructions
[01:24] <cpalma> could someone help me out with this: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/394895
[01:24] <foodcoman> I had trouble win it added one of the 2.6.12-9 kernel and headers when I upgraded.
[01:25] <foodcoman> I choose the 12-8 that was still there in grub and got back in.
[01:25] <foodcoman> I descided to do a fresh install and check out LVM... So I dont have a fix for you.
[01:26] <foodcoman> I would hang just before X started correct?
[01:27] <sorush20> anyone here using karamba
[01:27] <troth> it will ask my user and pass and kick me right to the shell, no gui would load or anything
[01:27] <foodcoman> cpalma: just means you dont have the key that auths the repo.
[01:27] <cpalma> how do i import it?
[01:27] <foodcoman> check out www.ubuntuguide.org on the adding repos sections.  talks about gpg keys.
[01:27] <cpalma> okay thanks
[01:27] <`Nomad> !prodvd
[01:27] <ubotu> `Nomad: No idea
[01:27] <`Nomad> !cdrecord
[01:27] <ubotu> `Nomad: Do they come in packets of five?
[01:28] <foodcoman> cpalma: That info is probably still for hoary, so use it as example.
[01:28] <`Nomad> argh!  Can anyone tell me what cdrecord-ProDVD is and why it,s not bundled in?  Do we have to buy it for xcdroast to work with DVDs?
[01:29] <cpalma> yea but it will do ;)
[01:29] <foodcoman> `Nomad: If you search www.ubuntuforums.org there is a DVD FAQ i thought I read a couple months ago.
[01:30] <foodcoman> `Nomad: search on DVD backup or some things like that you should get a good hit.
[01:30] <`Nomad> thansk
[01:30] <troth> so basically i should go back to windows, format and start all over?
[01:30] <foodcoman> I suck, but stearing to info is worth 2 cents eh?
[01:30] <_P_> there is someone with an amd64?
[01:31] <foodcoman> troth:  Depends on how much time you want to spend trying to fix the old.
[01:31] <SbCl3> i'm on a live CD, what is the password for root?
[01:31] <foodcoman> I looked at is as opportunity to dump all my mistakes!    =D
[01:31] <troth> im a newb, so complicated wont work for me...
[01:31] <foodcoman> SbCl3: your password.  Kubuntu uses a sudo root.
[01:32] <SbCl3> i wasn't given a password on this live cd
[01:32] <foodcoman> troth:  Same here!
[01:32] <foodcoman> SbCl3: did it ask you for a user and pass when you booted?
[01:32] <SbCl3> no
[01:32] <foodcoman> Ok my bad.
[01:33] <foodcoman> hrmmm.  I though it would have created a user for you on startup.
[01:33] <foodcoman> Dont listen to me then, until I try it.
[01:33] <SbCl3> i think there is no needed password; sudo didn't ask for anything o_o
[01:33] <foodcoman> Prob true then.
[01:33] <foodcoman> dont ask, dont tell.
[01:33] <foodcoman> Must not need one.
[01:34] <foodcoman> hey in a console if you do sudo -i does it give you a #
[01:34] <xtacocorex> i think it's sudo -s
[01:34] <xtacocorex> but i've only used it a couple of times
[01:34] <foodcoman> hrmmm both worked just now.
[01:35] <SbCl3> btw, i updated to breezy and kdm wouldn't start up no matter what i did, so i'm stuck on a live cd for now :/
[01:35] <xtacocorex> wierd
[01:35] <xtacocorex> let me try it a second
[01:35] <elementarmy> how do i get mp3 playback on amarok?
[01:35] <foodcoman> Upgrade with new kernel did something strange.  alot of us seems to have had that.  I reinstalled the final.
[01:35] <troth> SbCl3: me too
[01:36] <foodcoman> elementarmy: Sorry I use xmms for mp3
[01:36] <SbCl3> really? it isn't just me?
[01:36] <SbCl3> sweet
[01:36] <troth> ya i guess..
[01:36] <SbCl3> is there a way for me to go back to hoary?
[01:36] <troth> did it just kick you to the shell?
[01:37] <xtacocorex> foodcoman: i don't think it matters, from the man page, it just says that -i is to simulate login
[01:37] <foodcoman> SbCl3: You should have a grub option to choose your older kernel at boot time.  should let you in.
[01:37] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: what version of kubutu are you running?
[01:37] <foodcoman> xtacocorex: gotcha!
[01:38] <elementarmy> is xmms better than amarok?
[01:38] <elementarmy> 5.10
[01:38] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: i use amarok
[01:38] <foodcoman> elementarmy: Couldnt say, I typically used what worked for me.  I liked shoutcast.com for streams and xmms worked awesome for that.
[01:38] <SbCl3> troth: yeah, it kicked me to the shell
[01:38] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: hmm, i was going to send you to the forums, but i don't know where the mp3 stuff for breezy is
[01:39] <elementarmy> damn
[01:39] <SbCl3> how do i choose the older kernel at boot time, and how do i get rid of breezy?
[01:39] <troth> oh so familiar.... hehehe
[01:39] <SbCl3> else i need to reformat, i think
[01:39] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: but, once i find the one for hoary, i'll send you there and it should be pretty similar
[01:39] <fatejudger> why can't I mount my network folders in Breezy?
[01:39] <elementarmy> cool thanks
[01:39] <fatejudger> I was able to do it just fine in Hoary
[01:40] <foodcoman> SbCl3: when I upgraded I had several choices that showed the kernel version?  do you?
[01:40] <fatejudger> with "sudo mount //ComputerName/folder /mountpoint/"
[01:40] <fatejudger> can anyone help me out with this?
[01:40] <SbCl3> foodcoman: no
[01:40] <fatejudger> !samba
[01:40] <ubotu> it has been said that samba is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[01:40] <foodcoman> SbCl3: Then I dont think that will work.
[01:40] <troth> foodcomman: i have the same prob and no i dont either
[01:40] <SbCl3> how do i get rid of breezy?
[01:41] <foodcoman> troth: I have this prob around preview or rc1.  Things changed.
[01:41] <elementarmy> how can i find my windows hd
[01:41] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[01:41] <foodcoman> SbCl3: Can you backup your home dir and install breezy from scratch.  thats the road I took.
[01:41] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: tells you exactly what codecs to install
[01:41] <elementarmy> gracias
[01:41] <foodcoman> BBL.
[01:42] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: de nada
[01:42] <fatejudger> nevermind, I fixed it
[01:42] <SbCl3> is breezy still unstable?
[01:43] <SbCl3> i don't want unstable after all that has happened
[01:43] <Phantom^^> If anyone here is using kde 3.5 beta with breezy can i jack their sources.list file please ?
[01:44] <elementarmy> xtacocorex: it says gstreamer0.8-plugins could not be found
[01:44] <SbCl3> is breezy stable?
[01:45] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: there should be a link on that website that says 'how to install extra repositories'
[01:45] <fatejudger> SbCl3: yes, it is
[01:45] <elementarmy> alrighty then :-)
[01:45] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: click on that, and it'll tell you what repositories to add
[01:45] <SbCl3> okay; i'll install from scratch then
[01:45] <fatejudger> what is up with GStreamer?
[01:45] <fatejudger> it can't play a single file
[01:45] <fatejudger> it's the most crippled player ever
[01:46] <humbolt> there is no opengpg support in gpgme packages!!! what's wrong? where can I find packages with compiled in support?
[01:48] <elementarmy> shit now i dont have gedit
[01:49] <Mez> Phantom^^, er... maybe :P
[01:49] <Mez> Phantom^^, what do I get out of it
[01:49] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: you're running kde right?
[01:49] <elementarmy> yes
[01:49] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: gedit is for gnome
[01:49] <elementarmy> lol
[01:49] <elementarmy> i am new
[01:49] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: i'd do kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list from the command line
[01:50] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: sudo won't work on the command line for kate, but does for other kde apps
[01:50] <elementarmy> ok
[01:53] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: do you have synaptic on your system?
[01:53] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: wait, you're running breezy so you'd have adept
[01:53] <Ravensky> that's nice, I right click on a Flash element in Firefox and it crashes
[01:54] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: i was going to say that i thought that synaptic put repos into the source.list file, but i can't remember since it was a while since i installed it
[01:55] <elementarmy> xtacocorex: do i need to edit all six lines cause i only have two
[01:56] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: well, i'd just take the repos that you don't have that are listed on the website and just paste them in there and not the rest of the stuff
[01:56] <elementarmy> cool
[01:57] <elementarmy> i
[01:57] <elementarmy> i"am updating now :-)
[01:58] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: i'm glad i didn't fubar your system
[01:58] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: i'm not really new to linux, but haven't really walked anyone through installing something on their sysytem
[01:59] <fernando> hi...I tray to install skype in kubunto 5.10.. any help?
[01:59] <troth> how do i restart the xfs service from the shell?
[01:59] <elementarmy> still cant find plugins
[02:01] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#xmms
[02:01] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: that is the section on installing xmms
[02:01] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: i haven't done that, so i don't know how it'll go
[02:02] <fatejudger> has anyone gotten gstreamer to work correctly in Breezy?
[02:02] <xtacocorex> crap
[02:03] <SbCl3> i'm on a live cd and need to back up mysql...i can't start mysql, though. how might i go about backing it up?
[02:03] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: i forgot to mention that in the sources.list file, every  instance of hoary needs to be breezy
[02:03] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: damn, my bad
[02:04] <elementarmy> crap i'll start over :-)
[02:08] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: how's it going on your end?
[02:09] <elementarmy> ok got every thing done but when it ask if i whant to continue (i sayed yes) it just aborts
[02:09] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: you using the command line to install?
[02:09] <elementarmy> yes
[02:10] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: i'd get synaptic and use that
[02:11] <elementarmy> whats synaptic
[02:11] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: it's a package manager/installer
[02:11] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: pretty much a font-end for apt-get
[02:12] <elementarmy> how to get?
[02:12] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: sudo apt-get install synaptic
[02:13] <elementarmy> synaptic is installing now
[02:13] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: awesome
[02:14] <WMCoolmon> hey, i just upgraded to breezy and am having a few problems...
[02:15] <elementarmy> cool synaptic is installed :-)
[02:15] <WMCoolmon> 1) text in firefox isn't rendering anymore
[02:15] <WMCoolmon> 2) I accidentally unplugged my Audigy 2 NX...I tried restarting arts from the control center, but that isn't working anymore
[02:15] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: it should be found in system menu under kmenu
[02:15] <SbCl3> WMCoolmon: "sudo artsd"?
[02:16] <elementarmy> dont see it
[02:16] <WMCoolmon> sudo artsd says "device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such file or directory)"
[02:16] <elementarmy> never mind found it
[02:17] <elementarmy> now what?
[02:18] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: cool, there is a search feature that allows you to search for packages, or if you go to the multimedia section under the sections tab, you can browse the different packages to install
[02:18] <SbCl3> kynaptic does that too
[02:19] <xtacocorex> SbCl3: that it does, but when i got into the os, it was suggested that i use synaptic
[02:19] <xtacocorex> SbCl3: i'm still running hoary, so i don't have access to adept yet, at least i think i don't
[02:19] <elementarmy> what do i need to install
[02:19] <SillyCone> When playing with translucency settings in KDE, is there a way to assign specific translucency rules to a specific program or window?
[02:19] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: i'd try that same list that was on ubuntuguide
[02:20] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: otherwise, you could randomly pick stuff, which is what i did and not recommended
[02:20] <elementarmy> whats akode/
[02:20] <elementarmy> *.
[02:21] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: if you click on the package name, it will bring up a description of it
[02:21] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: i don't remember what it is off the top of my head
[02:22] <xtacocorex> elementarmy: i'd get that if you don't have it, brb too, gotta go walk the dog
[02:24] <SillyCone> anybody?
[02:24] <elementarmy> cool thanks
[02:24] <elementarmy> i got it from here ,you rock!!
[02:25] <fatejudger> is it safe to use Breezy Backports?
[02:25] <Tallia1-KubuntU> hi guys
[02:25] <Tallia1-KubuntU> could i know a thing
[02:25] <Mez> THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS BREEZY BACKPRTS ATM
[02:26] <Tallia1-KubuntU> in the description of the main breezy upgrades was wrote that
[02:26] <Tallia1-KubuntU> an automount module was inserted..
[02:26] <Tallia1-KubuntU> what is the name of that module? i only changed the repositories names so i have to install that manually!!
[02:26] <elementarmy> got to go (drunkin happiness)?
[02:39] <iface> hey guys, how to install mp3 support?
[02:40] <ep> I want to go with blackdown unless Sun's java is a lot better. How do i install blackdown java, its not in my repostories?
[02:41] <cpalma> iface: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:42] <iface> thx
[02:42] <Tallia1-KubuntU> ehi?
[02:43] <Tallia1-KubuntU> someone can tell me the name of that module?
[02:44] <puckman> apart from that pesky admin bug
[02:44] <Tallia1-KubuntU> ?
[02:45] <Tallia1-KubuntU> pleasee!!!
[02:45] <puckman> ?
[02:45] <Tallia1-KubuntU> i read on a handout for the breezy that they add support for automount of media devices
[02:45] <Tallia1-KubuntU> how?
[02:45] <Tallia1-KubuntU> i have to install a particular package?
[02:46] <conn> hi, I'm running kubuntu breezy, but I'm having a problem with my system, but it seems to affect gtk apps. I installed firefox, and when I load a page that's sufficiently long to scroll down, firefox's scroll speed is very poor, it jerks and renders very slowly, but the same site in konqueror scrolls very smoothly and fast. Any ideas? Additionally, firefox is displaying a black mouse cursor when the system theme is the default white.
[02:46] <Tallia1-KubuntU> puckman: do you know what's the name^?
[02:46] <blueyed_> When I ssh into my server I (as non-root) can type umlauts. But after "su -" they get not recognized anymore. If I just do "su" (no login shell) it also works. A difference for example is that with "su -" LANG is not set. Is that the cause?
[02:47] <puckman> Tallia1-KubuntU: ?
[02:47] <puckman> Name of what?
[02:47] <blueyed_> Tallia1-KubuntU: If you have ubuntu-dekstop or kubuntu-desktop this package should be included.
[02:47] <puckman> I mean that bug where you have to delete the cache file
[02:48] <puckman> otherwise the admin access to certain panels wornt work
[02:50] <Tallia1-KubuntU> blueyed_: i changed only the repositories names.... so maybe it is unselected
[02:50] <Tallia1-KubuntU> puckman: look above
[02:50] <blueyed_> Tallia1-KubuntU: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" or select it in synaptic/adept.
[02:50] <Tallia1-KubuntU> what change between synaptic and adept?
[02:51] <puckman> Tallia1-KubuntU: look at what?
[02:51] <blueyed_> ..what he asked for. The name of the automount package.
[02:57] <Kibou> anyone know hot to show hidden folders in the sections of the navigation panel in konqueror?
[02:58] <anomaly> anyone using AMD64? I have a 3000 @ 1.8, but Kubuntu is posting with /proc/cpuinfo at 1001Mhz
[03:01] <Riddell> model name      : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+  cpu MHz         : 2004.615
[03:02] <Tm_T> :)
[03:02] <wotan> hi
[03:02] <Tm_T> hmh, my inkscape was lost
[03:02] <Riddell> I suspect both figures are just made up myself
[03:02] <anomaly> in bios it posts right and on another hdd w/ win2kpro it posts fine as well
[03:02] <Tm_T> well, installing it again
[03:03] <wotan> I'm trying to use Kmail with GnuPG, but when I try to scan the backeds, Kmail says that OpenPGP is compiled without gnupgme support
[03:03] <Riddell> wotan: see /topic
[03:03] <wotan> Riddell: mm, thanks :)
[03:11] <Tm_T> aaah!
[03:11] <Tm_T> broken inkscape :(
[03:12] <Riddell> Tm_T: what's up?
[03:12] <Tm_T> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x08529210 ***
[03:12] <Tm_T> and closes immediately
[03:13] <Tm_T> or, crashes
[03:15] <jrattner1> Any update for the HAL problem yet?
[03:17] <ep> The multiverse repostories Ilisted in soure.list after the install from CD are unusable.  When I  uncomment the appropiate  ones and run update I get a bunch of failed to fetch errors.  The i get a bunch of stat errors using apt-search and other tools.
[03:18] <ep> I can comment out the mulitverse lines and all is good. But this leaves me unable to acquire certain packages. i.e. mplayer or blackdown java.  What to do?
[03:26] <sampan> i'm getting an error when i plug in a flash drive in a fresh install of kubuntu breezy.  konq comes up with a tab saying media (sda) does not exist
[03:29] <ep> Whats the problem with these repositores?  I can't use them,  Default CD install. --> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/394977
[03:31] <ep> Should I try removing the 'us'?
[03:40] <ep> I guy I think i figured it out -- Just scraped those two lines alltogether and  replaced them with  lines identical to the universe and add multiverse to them.
[03:43] <ep> I don't understand why those to repositores were given in the first place.
[04:02] <Tm_T> ep: because
[04:03] <Tm_T> ep: afaik universe and multiverse etc are kept by community
[04:06] <Tallia1-KubuntU> hi guys
[04:06] <Tallia1-KubuntU> have you got any idea of how KMILO works?
[04:10] <Tm_T> what's that
[04:10] <felly> *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x080dde78 ***
[04:10] <felly> after running evolution and going into preferences
[04:10] <felly> any ideas?
[04:12] <Tm_T> felly: hah! *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x08529210 ***
[04:12] <Tm_T> said my inkscape
[04:12] <felly> Tm_T : what do you mean?
[04:13] <brymck> can anyone offer help to a kubuntu newb?
[04:13] <Tm_T> felly: I mean there's more similar errors with gtk software
[04:13] <Tm_T> brymck: ok, what's up
[04:13] <brymck> only display size is 640x480
[04:13] <Tm_T> felly: use Kontact
[04:13] <felly> Tm_T : so is this a known issue?
[04:13] <Tallia1-KubuntU> do you know kmilo?
[04:13] <Tm_T> felly: I really hope so
[04:13] <felly> Tm_T : you're getting it too?
[04:14] <Tm_T> felly: well, I got that error when I tried run inkscape
[04:15] <Tm_T> still get
[04:15] <brymck> Tm_T: the only display setting I get is 640x480...any way to change this?
[04:15] <felly> Tm_T : good to know i guess, i'll try removing glib
[04:15] <Tm_T> brymck: ok, try in konsole: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[04:16] <brymck> Tm_T: thx, I'll let you know how this goes.
[04:17] <helpme> im running hoary....can i safely update that to breezy using install CD? without losing any of the other stuff ive installed...plz help???
[04:17] <qatsi> helpme open terminal, enter as super user and then do apt-get dist-upgrade, it will download and install everything so you upgrade to breeze ;)
[04:18] <qatsi> helpme dont need to download breeze cd and install again :p just update ;)
[04:18] <cave> damn amarok is crashing every 5 minutes
[04:18] <helpme> qatsi: ive got slow connection.....i will be getting cd from someone else
[04:19] <qatsi> helpme ok, then i dont know how to update via CD :S
[04:19] <Hobbsee> helpme: is your /home on a separate partition?
[04:19] <Hobbsee> if it is, you can just mount /home and tell it "do not format"
[04:19] <helpme> yes
[04:19] <Tm_T> cave: version?
[04:19] <qatsi> how can i set a sound card as default, somebody told me a command to set Sound Blaster Live! as defauilt, but i dont remember it, can anybody help me with that ?
[04:20] <Hobbsee> and so the / partiton will be formatted, but not /home, which will mean you keep all your docs and settings
[04:20] <helpme> Hobbsee: i dont wanna lose my biology packages ive installed....will i lose them?
[04:20] <m_tadeu> hi everyone....
[04:20] <qatsi> hu m_tadeu
[04:20] <Tm_T> m_tadeu: colours... ;)
[04:20] <qatsi> hi*-
[04:21] <m_tadeu> sorry
[04:21] <Hobbsee> helpme: um...probably...unless the install files are somewhere still on your system
[04:21] <Hobbsee> arent colours forbidden?
[04:21] <helpme> :(
[04:21] <cave> Tm_T: version 1.3
[04:21] <Hobbsee> helpme: you wont lose the settings for them, but you will probably have to redownload the program
[04:21] <Tm_T> cave: hmh, 1.3.1 or what?
[04:22] <cave> i mean.. yea 1.3.1
[04:22] <Tm_T> old :(
[04:22] <helpme> Hobbsee: thats what i dont want:(
[04:22] <cave> oh
[04:22] <cave> i'll upgrade
[04:22] <qatsi> helpme i suggest doing apt-get dist-upgrade in a fast connection, maybe moving your pc to another home ?
[04:22] <cave> but first is there a way to wipe my data from it?
[04:22] <Tm_T> cave: I think it's known issue, just hang on there, there should be update any day soon (I hope)
[04:22] <Tm_T> cave: from what?
[04:22] <qatsi> i need help using keyboard layouts..........anyone ?
[04:22] <cave> from amarok.. wipe all the music from its library
[04:23] <cave> because i put some .zip.mp3s in it
[04:23] <cave> and it started acting funny because of them i think
[04:23] <cave> so i wanna start over with only 'real'  mp3s :)
[04:23] <Tm_T> cave: ok, just remove ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/
[04:23] <helpme> qatsi: moving pc to another home!! sorry no one even has that fast connection here......
[04:23] <Tm_T> cave: that will give you totally fresh start
[04:24] <qatsi> helpme where are you from ?
[04:24] <helpme> qatsi: india:)
[04:24] <cave> thanks.. *looking for ~/.kde/*
[04:25] <qatsi> helpme ive heard india was quite advanced in tech.......well, maybe just waiting for it to upgrade is your only chance :s
[04:25] <qatsi> helpme 12 hours aprox :S
[04:25] <m_tadeu> when I insert a video, kde runs the new application selection dialog, but also runs a new konqueror and kaffeine. Shouldn't it run only the application dialog?
[04:25] <qatsi> helpme ahhh, by the way, qatsi means life in a lenguage from india, called Hopi, have you heard of it ?
[04:26] <helpme> nope sorry
[04:26] <qatsi> helpme uhmm :(
[04:27] <helpme> qatsi: qatsi sounds more of arabic to me
[04:27] <qatsi> helpme www.koyaanisqatsi.com :) im not lying :p
[04:28] <pospeselr> Anybody think they can help me out with getting CUPS server to work?
[04:28] <qatsi> i need some help with sound....i need gstreamer0.8-mad to play mp3 but i cant find it in Adept.....ive checked my repositories and they are ok, so i cant find the reason why i dont have mp3 support
[04:29] <helpme> qatsi: never heard of this film
[04:29] <qatsi> helpme its so good :)
[04:29] <helpme> qatsi: hmmm...
[04:30] <pospeselr> I'm running from a server installation, and I've installed hplip (HP Photosmart 7660).  I can print from kate just fine and test pages print great.  I've followed the printing to a WinXP Box guide on the Ubuntu Wiki, put when I try to add printer using WinXP wizard it says that it can't find the printer.
[04:31] <cpalma> my mov files wont play and i already installed w32codecs and gstreamer plugins
[04:31] <cpalma> any idea?
[04:31] <pospeselr> vlc?
[04:31] <qatsi> cpalma have tou checked all the codecs needed ?
[04:32] <cpalma> err, i added w32codecs gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[04:32] <cave> grrr... its not giving me a totally fresh start >_>
[04:32] <cpalma> actually mov files play yet only audio works not the video itself
[04:33] <qatsi> cpalma let me find the webpage where you have all the codecs needed...
[04:33] <cpalma> sweet
[04:33] <cpalma> cause i really dont like vlc at all
[04:34] <qatsi> cpalma maybe this will help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=70227
[04:35] <cpalma> let me check it :)
[04:35] <qatsi> cpalma i could give you the ubuntuguide page, but everybody here hates it :p no teaching, just answers, they say
[04:36] <cpalma> yea.. i got lost in it
[04:36] <Hobbsee> qatsi: they say it's out of date...which is annoying
[04:36] <Hobbsee> a fair bit of it does still work
[04:37] <qatsi> Hobsee yep, also that :p crappy ubuntuguide :s but sometimes its handy :)
[04:37] <Hobbsee> very true
[04:37] <Hobbsee> !faq
[04:37] <ubotu> faq is, like, totally, The Ubuntu FAQ Guide: select System -> Help (in Breezy), or http://doc.ubuntu.com/gnome/faqi386/C/
[04:37] <Hobbsee> isnt bad either
[04:38] <qatsi> yep :)
[04:39] <frank23> cpalma: install kaffeine-xine
[04:39] <frank23> cpalma: then use the kaffeine engine (which is really kaffeine-xine)
[04:39] <cpalma> yea.. i guess that's what im missing
[04:40] <frank23> cpalma: xine is much better than gstreamer
[04:40] <frank23> cpalma: it should fix your problem
[04:40] <root> hello can I get some help with Package Manager please?
[04:41] <root> It is loading in read-only mode.
[04:41] <cpalma> i'll try it thanks
[04:41] <ku_dude> anybody?
[04:42] <Hobbsee> loading in read-only mode?
[04:42] <ku_dude> Yes.
[04:43] <Hobbsee> how are you trying to open it? kdesu?
[04:43] <ku_dude> I was installing RealPlayer.. I closed it while it was doing something. and since then each time I load it, it loads in read-only mode. even as root.
[04:43] <ku_dude> nope from System - > Package Manager.
[04:44] <Hobbsee> in a konsole, type "sudo apt-get update" - what does that give you?
[04:44] <ku_dude>
[04:44] <ku_dude> any suggestion?
[04:44] <cpalma> frank23: woot! that worked, thanks alot.
[04:44] <ku_dude> one sec.
[04:46] <ku_dude> it says dpkg was interrupted. and I must run dpkg configure something..
[04:46] <ku_dude> is that the problem?
[04:46] <Hobbsee> run the dpkg configure like it tells you to then
[04:46] <Hobbsee> yes, it probably is the problem
[04:46] <ku_dude> haaa! you're cool dude..i think it's gonna work now.
[04:47] <Hobbsee> no problems
[04:47] <ku_dude> damn!.. you're cool.
[04:47] <Hobbsee> :)
[04:47] <ku_dude> I need to bookmark this channel.
[04:48] <Hobbsee> hehe
[04:48] <ku_dude> i'm not that a pro on linux..
[04:48] <ku_dude> but i'm loving kubuntu
[04:48] <ku_dude> installed SUSE 9.3 and 10. but had pure problems.. kept freezing, dieing.. all dat crap.
[04:48] <`Nomad> !reboot
[04:48] <ubotu> No idea, `Nomad
[04:48] <`Nomad> !boot
[04:48] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, `Nomad
[04:48] <ku_dude> since i installed kubuntu.. everything's working smooooooooooth..
[04:49] <ku_dude> except for my PCTel Modem..
[04:49] <`Nomad> I have a problem where when I select reboot, it just halts my PC anyway
[04:49] <ku_dude> i'm trying to install that now, maybe you can help me.
[04:49] <ku_dude> you up for this one?
[04:50] <ku_dude> this is my last prob. if/when you help me, i'll send you a big hug.
[04:51] <Hobbsee> possibly
[04:51] <ku_dude> hey guys how do you save a chat log from konversation?
[04:51] <Hobbsee> shoot
[04:51] <ku_dude> ok it should be easy for you.
[04:52] <Hobbsee> ctrl + o to access it
[04:52] <Hobbsee> it auto saves
[04:52] <ku_dude> cool. thanks Hob..
[04:52] <Hobbsee> no problems
[04:52] <ku_dude> ok..about the modem.
[04:52] <Hobbsee> otherwise window, open logfile
[04:52] <ku_dude> when i do ./setup
[04:52] <ku_dude> it complains about can't find stdio.h
[04:52] <ku_dude> i know it has to do with some headers.. but I don't know which one.
[04:53] <Hobbsee> pass
[04:53] <Hobbsee> got no idea sorry
[04:53] <ku_dude> as a dial-up user.. I hate that I have to use internet repositories.
[04:54] <ku_dude> I wish ubuntu could make some universe, and multiverse ISO.
[04:54] <Hobbsee> well, they could
[04:54] <Hobbsee> but it'd go out of date fairly quickly
[04:54] <ku_dude> thanks for your help anyways.. your a cool dude.
[04:54] <jrjxx> What's the difference between universe and multiverse?
[04:55] <ku_dude> is there any utility to download the packages..
[04:55] <jrjxx> Needing stdio.h?  One second.
[04:55] <ku_dude> they should consider dial-up people.
[04:55] <ku_dude> jrjxx...i'm here..thanks for your help.
[04:56] <Hobbsee> ku_dude: adept, the package manager will download packages, even not installing them if you really want
[04:56] <Hobbsee> all the packages you've downloaded are kept, assuming that you havent changed the setting
[04:56] <Jacko> anyone got any ideas on why my external dvd burner on USB 1 is writing so slow (0.59x) compared to 5x on windows?
[04:56] <ku_dude> universe and multiverse have different packages.. I really don't know the difference..but ubuntu.com explains quite good.
[04:57] <ku_dude> jrjxx: do you know which package has stdio.h?
[04:57] <jrjxx> I'm using adaptic (?sp) with 2005.04.  Is adept the equivalent for 2005.10?
[04:58] <jrjxx> ku: I'm trying to look that up now, from the debian web site.
[04:58] <ku_dude> I think it is.
[04:58] <humbolt> kmail does not support gnupg any more since the final breezy release!!!!
[04:58] <`Nomad> stdio.h is a very basic package for C.  It stands for Standard IO
[04:58] <humbolt> big mistake!
[04:58] <`Nomad> You probably do not have the dev packages installed
[04:59] <sampan> how can i get rid of the bouncing icons when i click an app?  i thought i turned them off, but they won't go away? :X  fresh install of breezy kubuntu
[04:59] <Hobbsee> jrjxx: you mean synaptic?  adept is a kde equivalent that pretty much does the same thing
[04:59] <Hobbsee> !tell jrjxx about adept
[04:59] <ku_dude> I like synaptic..
[05:00] <ku_dude> wish KDE add something like that.. cause I would install all the development tools in one shot.
[05:00] <Hobbsee> ku_dude: on breezy or hoary?
[05:00] <ku_dude> now I don't know where the hell stdio.h is.
[05:00] <ku_dude> breezy
[05:00] <Hobbsee> and nothing's stopping you - apt-get install synaptic
[05:00] <Hobbsee> there's a find function
[05:00] <ku_dude> i'm gonna install it now though. synaptic ie.
[05:01] <ku_dude> Hob..is that the fast way to install an app?
[05:01] <ku_dude> sorry guys.. but I am coming from RedHat,SUSE with their bluddy RPMs?
[05:01] <Hobbsee> what, by using synaptic?
[05:01] <Hobbsee> you can use "sudo apt-get install packagename" in a konsole
[05:01] <ku_dude> i tried 'locate stdio.h'...but didn't find anything.
[05:01] <Hobbsee> that's probably the quickest
[05:01] <Ayide1> Alright im getting annoyed ... I have a fresh kubuntu install and am trying to get some drivers modules in... but im having trouble with the sources... I downloaded the sources and put them in /usr/src and then sym linked to to linux when I try to compile in a module (hsf drivers) it says that its missing the auto make file. I guess my main question is on a fresh kubuntu 5.10 install WHAT ALL DO I NEED EXTRA compile drvers into the kernel
[05:02] <`Nomad> /usr/include/bits/stdio.h
[05:02] <`Nomad> /usr/include/stdio.h
[05:02] <Hobbsee> ku_dude: not sure what that is, but it's not in the repositories that i can see
[05:02] <ku_dude> cool hobbse.. (I hope that CTRL+o ting is logging this convo..cause I am getting some good juice from you guys.).
[05:02] <Ayide1> can someone please help if they can
[05:02] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:02] <jrjxx> On stdio.h ...
[05:02] <ku_dude> Nomad.. i didn't find it like you did..it's in some package..
[05:02] <Ayide1> im used to just getting the sources and them just working
[05:02] <Hobbsee> ku_dude: helps if you use the full nicknames of the people you're talking to - you can hit tab and it will fill them in, otherwise your text doesnt come up  in red
[05:02] <jrjxx> Looks like stdio.h is in libc6-dev.
[05:03] <Hobbsee> ku_dude: it may not matter so much here, but it definetly does in a busier channel
[05:03] <ku_dude> ok sorry.
[05:03] <jrjxx> That's the package for Debian, so Ubuntu should be the same.
[05:03] <Hobbsee> ku_dude: no problems :P
[05:03] <`Nomad> Ayide:  You probably do not have the dev packaged.  Look up dev in adept
[05:03] <ku_dude> kinda rust with my irc..
[05:03] <`Nomad> dev packages installed I mean
[05:03] <Ayide1> its just called dev?
[05:03] <`Nomad> no.. wait a sec
[05:03] <`Nomad> brb
[05:03] <ku_dude> haven't chat on irc for over 5 years.
[05:03] <Ayide1> thanks
[05:04] <`Nomad> I love this katapult
[05:04] <Ayide1> basically i need to know what all I need to compile into the running kernel i am not trying to compile another
[05:04] <Ayide1> I cant get online without the hsf drivers
[05:04] <jrjxx> ku: Did you get that?
[05:04] <Hobbsee> `Nomad: yep, same here...particularly with the bookmarks - it's quicker than the run command
[05:05] <ku_dude> jrjxx: gonna try that libc6 thing..one sec..(thanks)
[05:05] <`Nomad> Ayide:  There are many packages..  So that machien is not able to be online now is it?
[05:05] <Ayide1> right
[05:05] <Ayide1> I downloaded make and binutils
[05:05] <Ayide1> and headers and sources
[05:06] <`Nomad> I compile stuff for a friend of mine all the time, I can't guess it from here, but if I coudl be on your machine I could track down the missing packages from teh failed compiles and add them as needed..  You have the CD or DVD right?
[05:06] <jrjxx> ku: You specifically want the libc6-dev and not just libc6.
[05:06] <ku_dude> Hobbsee: how would you install all the dev tools..(remember I have dial-up)..
[05:06] <Ayide1> normally thats all I need but I guess kubuntu isnt very module friendly
[05:06] <Ayide1> I have dial-up too ha ha
[05:06] <ku_dude> Hobbsee: I braught my pc by a friend to install all the tools i'll need.
[05:07] <ku_dude> jrjxx: I saw it.. I know.. thanks.installing it now.
[05:07] <Hobbsee> all these people with dialup...ouch
[05:07] <Ayide1> yeah i kno
[05:07] <Ayide1> takes 2 hours for 30mb
[05:07] <`Nomad> The way I go about it is to run configure, and as errors pop up, I find what ckage is missing and install that
[05:07] <`Nomad> then recompile
[05:07] <Hobbsee> ku_dude: get them off your friend if he already has them?  otherwise leave it running overnight while you sleep, i guess
[05:07] <`Nomad> well, reconfigure..  Once configure works all the way through, you're pretty much there
[05:08] <Ayide1> so what else do I need?
[05:08] <Ayide1> all i need to do is install some drivers
[05:08] <Ayide1> -.-
[05:08] <jrjxx> I'm using dialup myself.  It's a pain to d/l many MB of stuff.  Luckily, I can burn CDs of the ISOs at least.
[05:08] <ku_dude> Hobbsee: My friend is my girlfriend..she knows nothing about computers.. I am only using DSL line to install packes..
[05:08] <`Nomad> and libc6-dev is definitely needed :)
[05:09] <Ayide1> why does the error missing auto cinfig come up?
[05:09] <Ayide1> config** why isnt that with the sources?
[05:09] <Hobbsee> well borrow her dsl, connect to it (it should auto recognise if it's an eth0 connection - mine does here in aussie, not sure about yours), and then install normally thru adept or via the command line
[05:09] <`Nomad> configure is not there?
[05:09] <ku_dude> jrjxx: burn ISO cds? from where? For the universe, and multiverse too?
[05:09] <ku_dude> jrjxx: hook me up dude.
[05:09] <Ayide1> not the auto config file needed for modules to compile into running kernel
[05:10] <ku_dude> ok guys..brb.. gonna try install that pctel driver again. it's a winmodem. I can't find a hardware modem in toronto..
[05:10] <Ayide1> i downloaded them from the ubuntu pool
[05:10] <shiv> which repo has rcconf?
[05:10] <petros> hi
[05:10] <Ayide1> ku_dude what all did you do to get to be able to install them drivers?
[05:11] <Ayide1> ku_dude:
[05:11] <petros> which package do i have to install for the gcc command?
[05:11] <ku_dude> Ayide1: sorry Ai.. didn't get you.
[05:11] <Ayide1> oh he left already : (
[05:11] <Ayide1> oh okay
[05:11] <Ayide1> your installing modem drivers right?
[05:11] <shiv> has anybody got the 855resolution working in breezy?
[05:11] <petros> ii  gcc-4.0-base                          4.0.1-4ubuntu9                     The GNU Compiler Collection (base package)
[05:11] <petros> is installed
[05:11] <ku_dude> Ayide1: yes.. a software modem.. PCTel HSP MicroModem 56
[05:11] <Ayide1> ku_dude: well you had to download kernel-sources and stuff extra right? what all did you need?
[05:12] <xtacocorex> petros: do you have build-essential installed?
[05:12] <ku_dude> I got a driver from linmodems.org
[05:12] <Ayide1> I have a conext and need to install drivers
[05:12] <petros> xtacocorex: no
[05:12] <Ayide1> I bought them
[05:12] <crescent> can anyone please help me with my floppy problem
[05:12] <crescent> please
[05:12] <Ayide1> but I need to have the sources and everything working
[05:12] <xtacocorex> petros: i would download that, that should work for you
[05:12] <ku_dude> Ayide1: whell the README file told me what I needed.
[05:12] <petros> ok, thx
[05:12] <Ayide1> ku_dude: just wondering what all you needed
[05:12] <xtacocorex> petros: np
[05:12] <m_tadeu> does anyone know how to solve webcam problems?
[05:12] <ku_dude> Ayide1: kernel source is a must.. gc, make, etc..
[05:13] <m_tadeu> sorry...
[05:13] <Ayide1> i know what I need for the drivers.. just dont know how to get the sources compilable in ubuntu/kubuntu
[05:13] <Ayide1> gc isnt there?
[05:13] <Ayide1> crap
[05:13] <Ayide1> alright
[05:13] <Ayide1> did you need the kernel tree?
[05:14] <crescent> hey my printer is not in linuxprinter.org
[05:14] <Ayide1> ku_dude: did you need the kernel tree as well?
[05:14] <crescent> what should i do?
[05:14] <ku_dude> Ayide1: nope just the current kernel source.
[05:14] <Ayide1> alight and then it worked after gcc and stuff
[05:14] <ku_dude> `Nomad: wohoo....now I have stdio.h.. gonna try the pctel modem install now. brb guys.
[05:15] <helpme> are there any side-effects of prelinking?
[05:15] <Ayide1> this is not going to be fun...
[05:17] <shiv> has anybody got the 855resolution working in breezy?
[05:17] <ku_dude> i'm back..
[05:17] <ku_dude> damn it almost installed.
[05:17] <ku_dude> it detected the modem.. found it.. but had a compilation error..gonna see my makelog
[05:19] <ku_dude> `Nomad: still having problems with compilers..
[05:20] <crescent> hi any kubuntu expert who could help me why my computer cannot read my usb flash disk
[05:20] <ku_dude> anybody seeing my writings?
[05:20] <crescent> An error occurred while loading media:/sda:
[05:20] <crescent> The file or folder media:/sda does not exist.
[05:21] <ku_dude> I set my away ting.. but don't know how to set it back off.
[05:21] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: i see what you're writing, but have no clue what you're talking about
[05:21] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: heheh.. it's ok.. just having problems with compiling a tar. file..
[05:21] <crescent> SOS:  my pc cant see the usb flash disk
[05:21] <ku_dude> don't know which gc to install.
[05:21] <crescent> SOS:  my pc cant see the usb flash disk
[05:21] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: what are you trying to compile?
[05:21] <crescent> SOS:  my pc cant see the usb flash disk
[05:22] <xtacocorex> crescent: what type of usb key is it?
[05:22] <crescent> it is an ibm flash disk
[05:22] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: pctel-0.9.7-9-rht-4c
[05:23] <Hobbsee> ubotu msttcorefonts is methinks msttcorefonts is sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first
[05:23] <ubotu> Hobbsee: okay
[05:23] <Hobbsee> :D
[05:23] <Hobbsee> !msttcorefonts
[05:23] <ubotu> from memory, msttcorefonts is methinks msttcorefonts is sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts - you'll need multiverse enabled in your /etc/apt/sources.list first
[05:23] <xtacocorex> crescent: if you open up konqi and type media:/ in the address bar it doesn't show up?
[05:23] <Hobbsee> excellent
[05:23] <crescent> An error occurred while loading media:/sda:
[05:23] <crescent> Malformed URL .
[05:23] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: what version do you have currently?
[05:23] <Hobbsee> crescent: take the : out from the end?
[05:24] <Hobbsee> oh, that
[05:24] <xtacocorex> crescent: yeah
[05:24] <Hobbsee> crescent: try /media/sda1
[05:24] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: what version of what?
[05:24] <crescent> wait i will try
[05:24] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: sorry, compiler
[05:25] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: i installed so many different ones.
[05:25] <crescent> it says that folder /media/sda1 does not exist
[05:25] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: gcc, gcc3.3, 4.0
[05:25] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: also cpp.
it says that folder /media/sda1 does not exist
[05:26] <Hobbsee> crescent: try /media
[05:26] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: i think i only have 3.3, i know that 4.0 wasn't supported by kde for a while until they released 4.0.1
[05:26] <crescent> AH yeah, the usbdisk is there
[05:26] <crescent> the file is there
[05:26] <crescent> thanks
[05:26] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: well I have 3.3.. and that thing didn;t work.
[05:27] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: weird
[05:27] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: do I need other libs.. with gcc too?
but why didnt the usbicon showed up in desktop, normally it does
[05:27] <Hobbsee> crescent: which kde are you using?
[05:27] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: i don't think so, i would just make sure that you have build-essential installed
[05:28] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: but i could be wrong
[05:28] <crescent> newly installed breezy
[05:28] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: is build-essential a pacakge..
[05:28] <crescent> version
[05:28] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: yes
[05:28] <ku_dude> crescent: breezy is cool..
[05:28] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: ok..gonna install it.
[05:28] <crescent> yeah i think so..
[05:28] <crescent> its cool.
[05:29] <Hobbsee> crescent: seems like kde 3.4.3 doesnt actually mount the USB drives like it's supposed to
do you also encounter the same?
[05:29] <ku_dude> argggg!!.. I need to install all flipping packages..damn..
[05:29] <Hobbsee> crescent: no, but i'm using kde3.5 beta
[05:29] <ku_dude> I like RPM now.. atleast it install the dependies.
cool
[05:30] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: really, i used to run FC4 and i now prefer the .deb files
by the way do you have any idea on how to install my printer which is not included in linuxprinter.orf
by the way do you have any idea on how to install my printer which is not included in linuxprinter.org
[05:30] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: Well i'm kinda impatien.. I'm catching on..
[05:30] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: you relatively new to kubuntu?
[05:31] <ku_dude> just hate this dialup-thing..and also not knowing which package I need to perform some building..etc..
[05:31] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: very new..
by the way do you have any idea on how to install my printer which is not included in linuxprinter.org
[05:31] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: i was a redhat, and mandrake dude..
[05:31] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: oh, i didn't even bother trying to get my modem working on my laptop, i figured that i'm just going to have to afford high speed
[05:31] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: normally those distros will install all the essential packages for development.
[05:32] <Hobbsee> crescent: more info needed, but i'm not terribly good on printers
[05:32] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: hahah..I don't want to though.. atleast not for now..
[05:32] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: that is true, that was the one annoyance that i had when i switched over
[05:32] <Hobbsee> you've tried with the kde printing wizard?
[05:32] <crescent> yeah
but it didnt work
[05:32] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: i'm waiting till this voip ting becomes standard.. then I swithch to DSL + VoIP
[05:32] <ku_dude> :brb:
[05:33] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: ok
[05:33] <Hobbsee> crescent: i havent been able to make my own parallel printer work, you might want to ask the main channel instead
[05:33] <crescent> sharp said that they really dont support linux
[05:33] <crescent> i mean for that model
[05:33] <qatsi> hi all !...can anybody help me setting up my wireless conection ?
[05:33] <ku_dude> guys.. gonna try install this modem again.
[05:33] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: which me luck.
[05:33] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: ok, good luck
what do you mean ask main channel
[05:34] <crescent> u mean on kubuntu.org site?
[05:34] <qatsi> crescent ubuntu, not kubuntu, i think :)
[05:34] <Hobbsee> either
[05:34] <Hobbsee> or ask the people in this channel if they can help, not just me in particular
[05:35] <Hobbsee> !bot
[05:35] <ubotu> I'm a bot, I'm a bot. Set fire to me, I'll get hot. Reply to hobbsee? I think not. Bot, knot, chicken... rhyming sucks.
[05:35] <ku_dude> damn!!! you guys are awesome.. my modem WORKS!!!
[05:35] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: thanks a million..
D yeahh... tnx for helpin me with my usb prob. ur my angel for the day
[05:35] <ku_dude> Hobbsee: thanks a billion
[05:35] <Hobbsee> crescent: no problems
[05:35] <Hobbsee> ku_dude: no problems
[05:35] <ku_dude> jrjxx: thanks a trillion..
[05:35] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: you're welcome
[05:35] <ku_dude> you guys are really awesome. you all rock..
[05:36] <qatsi> i need help setting up wireless settings, some orientation would be great, like, comand name, then ill just man comand :)
[05:36] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: glad i could help
[05:36] <Hobbsee> qatsi: dont look at me lol...i dont have a wireless card in this laptop
[05:36] <ku_dude> now..I need to know how to make a universe, and multiverse ISO.. cd so I don't have to download..them when I need them.
[05:36] <qatsi> hobbsee, darn, you even know who im looking at :P
[05:36] <xtacocorex> qatsi: what type of wireless card do you have?
[05:37] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:37] <crescent> <to printer experts here> please help me, my printer is not included in linuxprinter,org, its actually printer scanner copier in one, sharp ar 123e
[05:37] <qatsi> xtacocorex the card is working fine, i just need to set up ssid and passwords and that stuff
[05:37] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: i couldn't help you with that, but i guess just download all the files from the repos off the web
[05:37] <qatsi> xtacocorex im using a broadcom wireless, with ndiswrapper driver
[05:37] <crescent> <to printer experts here> please help me, my printer is not included in linuxprinter,org, its actually printer scanner copier in one, sharp ar 123e
[05:37] <jsubl2> crescent: check your manual and see if it does any hp emulation.. you might be able to use instructions for one of those
 manual of printer? oh, its gone... its a year old printer
[05:38] <xtacocorex> qatsi: are you running kwifimanager?
[05:38] <qatsi> xtacocorex yep\
 what is hp emulation?
[05:39] <mcscruff> does anyone here use superkaramba?
[05:39] <xtacocorex> qatsi: have you tried the configuration under the settings menu?
[05:39] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: how big do you think the internet repository is.
[05:40] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: well, it's the same place apt-get gets the stuff, so whatever the number of files it has * each of their file sizes, so it could be huge
[05:40] <qatsi> xtacocorex uhmm, i have configured everything in there, but no luck
[05:41] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: wierd, my only problem with the config stuff is having it recognize my schools wireless when i'm on campus
[05:41] <xtacocorex> wait
[05:41] <xtacocorex> that went to the wrong person
[05:41] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: heheh!
[05:41] <qatsi> xtacocorex yep, that was for me :p
[05:42] <xtacocorex> qatsi: i wouldn't know what to tell you
[05:42] <ku_dude> xtacocorex: well..I guess i'm gonna have to download the entire repo'..or bring my pc to work when I need to do major updates..
[05:42] <qatsi> xtacocorex uhmm, i can detect networks, i can even configure with it, but when  i load the config...it dosnt work...
[05:42] <ku_dude> anyways.. going home now.. I have a headache.
[05:42] <Hobbsee> ku_dude: probably not a bad idea, the taking to work that is
[05:42] <ku_dude> Good night all..
[05:42] <xtacocorex> ku_dude: good night
[05:42] <ku_dude> thanks again for your help.
[05:43] <sampan> i really want to kill the bouncing cursors in kubuntu -- i thought i'd turned them off and they won't go away :X
[05:43] <qatsi> xtacocorex well, thanx anyway :)
[05:43] <xtacocorex> qatsi: this is an intriguing problem
[05:43] <qatsi> can anybody please help me with KWiFiManager ?????
[05:44] <qatsi> xtacocorex yep, strange...and i dont know the comands to manually configure the network :p
[05:44] <xtacocorex> qatsi: i don't know them either
[05:45] <xtacocorex> qatsi: sorry that i couldn't be of more help
[05:45] <qatsi> xtacocorex no porblem :p thanx anyway :)
[05:46] <qatsi> does anybody knows the commands for setting up SSID in wireless networks ??? plx ??
[05:47] <qatsi> ahhhhhhhhhhhh, nobody helping now :p
[05:47] <Hobbsee> hehe
[05:47] <xtacocorex> qatsi: i did google this up quick: http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/linux-hn/wmp11-linux.htm
[05:47] <Hobbsee> not really that many people here
[05:47] <qatsi> xtacocorex thanx :)
[05:48] <qatsi> Hobbsee you have experience :P i thought you know the answer  :( jejeje
[05:48] <Hobbsee> yeah, well send me a wireless card and then maybe i'll figure out how to use it :P
[05:48] <Hobbsee> might cost a fair bit for shipping though lol
[05:49] <qatsi> Hobbsee maybe ill ship a Router too :)
[05:49] <Hobbsee> ooh nice
[05:49] <Hobbsee> already got a router though
[05:49] <Hobbsee> just not a wireless one
[05:49] <qatsi> hobbsee my point :)
[05:49] <Hobbsee> ok, send me one of them then lol
[05:51] <xtacocorex> qatsi: how did that link work out for you?
[05:52] <qatsi> xtacocorex not so good, managed to set up ssid and password, but im missing something :S so im googling arround
[05:52] <qatsi> xtacocorex ahh, found a ubuntu page :) ejejeje thanx btw for the page you sent
[05:52] <xtacocorex> qatsi: np
[05:53] <_john> something i must say:  is anyone else totally blown away by teh great KDE support in Breezy?
[05:53] <_john> i think its amazing
[05:54] <_john> I found amazing amounts of kde apps in the repos
[05:55] <Hobbsee> away...
[05:56] <sampan> nice pun john -- blown away ... by breezy
[05:57] <xtacocorex> while i'm here, does anyone else have problems with speed in kopete
[05:59] <mcscruff> i cant recieve files on msn
[05:59] <mcscruff> but thats about it
[05:59] <mcscruff> i find gaim more reliable
[05:59] <xtacocorex> mcscruff: i just have problems with it loading a chat window, totally bogs the system down
[06:00] <mcscruff> not had that
[06:00] <petros> hi
[06:00] <mcscruff> try gaim or even amsn
[06:00] <petros> which package do i have to install for the X headers?
[06:00] <mcscruff> lo petos
[06:00] <xtacocorex> mcscruff: i've been running gaim for since i got kubuntu about 3 months ago
[06:01] <mcscruff> the  only thing i dont like about gaim is that i cant find an amarok script for it
[06:01] <xtacocorex> mcscruff: i just used to use kopete when i ran fc4, so i thought i'd try it, but didn't like it
[06:01] <petros> can not finde any dev package for xorg
[06:01] <xtacocorex> mcscruff: that would be nice to have, but i'm not that type of programmer
[06:01] <mcscruff> i have never had a problem like that with kopete
[06:02] <xtacocorex> mcscruff: i'll just have to wait for a newer version to test
[06:02] <mcscruff> i lvoe kopete to bits but i hate the cant recieve msn files
[06:02] <mcscruff> *love
[06:02] <xtacocorex> mcscruff: i can't do any file transfers anyway, so i gave up on that
[06:02] <mcscruff> lol
[06:03] <qatsi> ohhh my !!! im wireless now !!!!.....if anyones intrested in knowing how :) check this...http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926
[06:03] <xtacocorex> qatsi: congrats
[06:03] <qatsi> xtacocorex thanx :) long live wireless tech :)
[06:04] <mcscruff> i always had 1 prob with wireless, getting the key to work, worked fine if ther ewas no key
[06:04] <xtacocorex> qatsi: yes, it is great
[06:05] <mcscruff> has anyone tested mandriva 2006?
[06:07] <xskyther> halo
[06:07] <mcscruff> i love halo
[06:07] <mcscruff> great game
[06:07] <xskyther> haloooooo bosss ada orang kagak
[06:07] <KSL> yang bener
[06:08] <KSL> eker!
[06:08] <labkom_> apane
[06:08] <xskyther> oh
[06:09] <KSL> teguh kw lg ngopo
[06:09] <satafterh> are there 3d and opengl games for linux, similar to doom, halflife
[06:09] <KSL> turu?
[06:10] <regeya> well, satafterh, there's doom
[06:10] <regeya> heh
[06:10] <xskyther> hei boss ayo semangat
[06:10] <satafterh> #regeya - really, doom
[06:10] <regeya> there are several, satafterh, but not being much of a gamer myself these days, I dunno.
[06:10] <labkom_ss> rapopo
[06:11] <regeya> shoot, I used to dm on quake2 on my linux box back in college; couldn't stand to do it under windows on the same hardware 'coz it sucked.
[06:11] <labkom_> op oooooooooooooooo
[06:11] <xskyther> fifa la dida linuxer mipa okeyyyyyyyy
[06:11] <apokryphos> this is an English only channel
[06:11] <regeya> lo siento no comprendo
[06:11] <satafterh> not much of a gamer either, but my son on the other hand
[06:12] <apokryphos> regeya, satafterh: English only in here
[06:12] <sen> ;p
[06:12] <regeya> apokryphos: sorry, I'm an american.
[06:12] <_labkom> hidup mahasiswaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:12] <sen> ok
[06:12] <apokryphos> _labkom_: last warning
[06:13] <regeya> I bet you'll kick out the Welshmen next
[06:13] <KSL> Hidup!!!!
[06:13] <satafterh> #apokryphos- wasnt aware i was typing another language
[06:13] <xskyther> ok apane
[06:13] <apokryphos> regeya: I couldn't care less what you are; only what you're speaking in the chan
[06:13] <xskyther> gdjgdd dguhd gd6e99yd yu8dd
[06:13] <satafterh> apokryphos- maybe just bad spelling
[06:14] <regeya> no joke, why are you picking on satafterh, apokryphos?  I understand you going after me with my smart ass "I'm sorry, I don't understand" comment in spanish...ONE LINE of it, but it was in spanish, but c'mon.
[06:15] <apokryphos> regeya: first comment I saw -- surprise, non-English. Not "picking" on anyone, obviously.
[06:15] <satafterh> I only speak english lol
[06:15] <apokryphos> fine and dandy
[06:15] <regeya> apokryphos: I challenge you to show me a line where satafterh said something in another language.
[06:15] <qatsi> uhmm, i hate this fights about lenguages.....
[06:16] <regeya> let's all speak esperanto from now on.
[06:16] <satafterh> took french in school but failed, lol
[06:16] <regeya> and now I take my leave as the word 'esperanto' is not, in fact, english.
[06:16] <apokryphos> hm, correction; shoulda been to xskyther, who is gone now anyhow
[06:16] <qatsi> esperanto is actually a word in englis, regeya
[06:16] <qatsi> english*
[06:16] <apokryphos> satafterh: join the crew
[06:18] <satafterh> i wish i really could speak another language, i would make more $$$$$$$$
[06:19] <apokryphos> satafterh: I wish my Greek wasn't degenerating at the rate it is :|
[06:19] <qatsi> statfternh where are you from ?
[06:19] <qatsi> apokryphos: thanx a lot man :p im so used to winodws that i dont even know how to use Kopete hehehe
[06:20] <satafterh> canada, there are mostly english and french in my area but you can find many languages here
[06:20] <satafterh> #apokryphos where are you
[06:20] <apokryphos> London 8)
[06:21] <regeya> and I felt bad for going on with my ot language talk.  and now I no longer feel bad for the OT.
[06:21] <satafterh> #apokryphos are you really??
[06:21] <apokryphos> yup, but I'm Greek -- been here just over 11 years now
[06:23] <regeya> 1.5 minutes of non-english, 10 minutes of offtopic...meh, I'm going to bed.
[06:23] <apokryphos> it's 5:30 here -- I should be falling asleep, but I'm awake as a... bird
[06:23] <qatsi> ay a la verch, a ver si se enchilan por no hablar en ingles :p
[06:23] <satafterh> #apokryphos - there are a few greeks in the town live in, good people
[06:24] <apokryphos> indeed; wildly different culture to here :D
[06:24] <satafterh> wel i am off to bed, later all
[06:24] <qatsi> satafterh: see ya
[06:24] <apokryphos> 'night
[06:24] <satafterh> i"ll be back lol
[06:24] <satafterh> later
[06:44] <Evera> Hello
[06:44] <Milktea> I'm having trouble installing ATI drivers
[06:44] <Milktea> on Hoary
[06:44] <xtacocorex> Milktea: the ones for opengl?
[06:44] <Milktea> Yeah, basically
[06:44] <Milktea> I tried running World of Warcraft under Wine with -opengl
[06:45] <Milktea> and it has a really bad framerate
[06:45] <Milktea> someone told me to get the ATI drivers, since I use an ATI card
[06:45] <Milktea> and I was using graphical defaults
[06:45] <xtacocorex> Milktea: i had installed them from synaptic, but they made it worse than the default that was installed with the os
[06:45] <Milktea> oh
[06:45] <Milktea> Well
[06:45] <Milktea> I couldn't find it with synaptic
[06:45] <Milktea> I tried going to the ATI site
[06:45] <Milktea> but all they had was an .rpm
[06:46] <Milktea> and i alien'd it to.deb
[06:46] <Milktea> but I got errors when I tried to install it
[06:46] <xtacocorex> Milktea: i think you have to add a repository to sources.list
[06:46] <Milktea> oh
[06:46] <Milktea> someone told me to add multiverse
[06:46] <xtacocorex> Milktea: but i can't remember which one
[06:46] <Milktea> but it was already on there
[06:46] <Milktea> aw
[06:46] <Milktea> D=
[06:46] <xtacocorex> Milktea: do you have universe and restricted also?
[06:47] <Milktea> yeah
[06:47] <Milktea> I'm using the one from ubuntuguide.org
[06:47] <xtacocorex> Milktea: i'm going to check what i have
[06:47] <Milktea> yay, thanks
[06:49] <xtacocorex> Milktea: are you running xfree86 or xorg? i'm assuming xorg
[06:50] <xtacocorex> Milktea: search synaptic for fglrx
[06:50] <Milktea> I think its xorg
[06:50] <Milktea> ok
[06:51] <Milktea> I have fglrx-control and xorg-driver-fglrx installed
[06:51] <Milktea> available ones are
[06:51] <Milktea> fglrx-6-8-0 fglrx-kernel-source xfree86-driver-fglrx xfree86-driver-fglrx-dev xorg-driver-fglrx-dev (plus the ones I have installed)
[06:52] <xtacocorex> that's what i have listed too
[06:53] <Milktea> so
[06:53] <Milktea> what do I do
[06:53] <Milktea> D=
[06:53] <xtacocorex> i'm trying to think
[06:53] <xtacocorex> i thought i saw something in the forums
[06:53] <xtacocorex> so i'm checking there
[06:53] <Milktea> oh
[06:53] <Milktea> thanks
[06:55] <blackflag> Hello all :-)
[06:55] <blackflag> where can I get w32codecs and libdvdcss?
[06:56] <blackflag> for breezy?
[06:56] <apokryphos> !w32codecs
[06:56] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/87ofx (Breezy)
[06:57] <xtacocorex> Milktea: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75378&highlight=ATI+Driver+HowTo
[06:58] <xtacocorex> Milktea: crap, that's for breezy
[06:58] <Milktea> thanks
[06:58] <Milktea> oh
[06:58] <xtacocorex> Milktea: will find the right one
[06:58] <Milktea> Thanks
[06:58] <Milktea> the thing is
[06:59] <Milktea> I'm running WoW right now
[06:59] <Milktea> but there's about 4 second intervals between frames
[07:00] <xtacocorex> Milktea: i don't play games on linux yet, i'm waiting to get cedega when i get a better computer, but i'm assuming that what you said is bad
[07:00] <Milktea> hm
[07:00] <Milktea> imagine
[07:00] <Milktea> moving your mouse
[07:00] <Milktea> and waiting for the moniter to update it every 4 seconds
[07:01] <xtacocorex> Milktea: it's been a long night, so yeah, i had that problem yesterday trying to make a movie from output for a program for my computational fluid dynamics class
[07:02] <blackflag> Okay, thanks , that works!
[07:02] <xtacocorex> Milktea: if you want to know how to lock up linux...
[07:02] <Milktea> lol
[07:07] <_lEo_> hi all
[07:07] <Milktea> hi
[07:07] <xtacocorex> Milktea: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76057&highlight=hoary+ati
[07:08] <_lEo_> does anyone know if you can boot off an ISO image from the harddrive ?
[07:08] <_lEo_> I am running mandriva and wanna try the kubuntu live cd
[07:08] <Milktea> thanks
[07:08] <xtacocorex> Milktea: i think that should work
[07:08] <_lEo_> but the my cd-burner is not working right now
[07:08] <xtacocorex> i'm actually going to try it too
[07:08] <Milktea> yay
[07:09] <Milktea> ima try it
[07:09] <Milktea> =D
[07:09] <xtacocorex> my current screensaver is opengl and the previous times i've done the driver it made it worse
[07:09] <_lEo_> i downloaded the iso and I'd like to add an entry for the iso in grub, I know it is doable
[07:09] <xtacocorex> so hopefully this works
[07:09] <Milktea> when it says gedit i assume i type nano -w right
[07:10] <xtacocorex> _lEo_: i don't think that's doable from grub
[07:10] <_lEo_> but I can't get to the right howto
[07:10] <xtacocorex> Milktea: yes, nano will work
[07:10] <_lEo_> arg, and from lilo ?
[07:10] <sampan> i get a KDE su error
[07:10] <xtacocorex> _lEo_: i don't use lilo
[07:10] <sampan> anyone know why i can't adjust the time/date on breezy?
[07:11] <sampan> from the clock applet or from the system settings --> date & time (even trying administrator mode)
[07:11] <_lEo_> ok, thanks xtacocorex!
[07:11] <sampan> both return that breaking glass sound with "su error"
[07:11] <_lEo_> i'll try to get the burner fixed
[07:11] <xtacocorex> _lEo_: sorry i couldn't help you more
[07:11] <_lEo_> cheers!
[07:11] <_lEo_> please, I really appreciate it!
[07:12] <Evera> ehehe
[07:12] <Evera> oops
[07:12] <Milktea> I restarted X
[07:12] <Milktea> and lost the page
[07:12] <Milktea> could you link it again? ^^;;
[07:12] <xtacocorex> Milktea: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76057&highlight=hoary+ati
[07:12] <Milktea> thanks
[07:12] <xtacocorex> Milktea: np
[07:13] <Milktea> woot
[07:13] <Milktea> ima try it now
[07:13] <xtacocorex> Milktea: good luck
[07:13] <Milktea> thanks
[07:13] <Milktea> =D
[07:13] <Milktea> WLoginn scrreen works
[07:13] <Milktea> beettre  frammeraate but sttilll prettyy bad
[07:13] <xtacocorex> hmm
[07:13] <Milktea> aand llags so i  typee like this  O_o
[07:14] <xtacocorex> did you try running glxgears from the command line to see a fps?
[07:14] <_lEo_> gotto go to sleep, thanks guys/gals!
[07:14] <xtacocorex> _lEo_: good night
[07:14] <_lEo_> 'night xtacocorex!
[07:14] <Milktea> i cant type in my passs cuz i type funny
[07:14] <Milktea> i see the gears  for glxgears
[07:14] <Milktea> what ddo they ddo
[07:15] <xtacocorex> Milktea: it should do a frame rate test
[07:15] <xtacocorex> if you ran it from konsole, it should output data
[07:15] <Milktea> i see gears
[07:15] <Milktea> And the sound is also screwed up
[07:15] <Milktea> hmm
[07:16] <xtacocorex> otherwise you have to add this insanely long option to the call
[07:16] <xtacocorex> damn
[07:16] <Milktea> IIt oppenedd a window
[07:16] <xtacocorex> did you modify the xorg.conf file?
[07:16] <Milktea> annd shhows  3 gearrs
[07:16] <Milktea> yeaah
[07:16] <xtacocorex> wait, yeah
[07:16] <xtacocorex> close the gear window and see what it says
[07:17] <xtacocorex> i'm gonna try restarting x
[07:17] <xtacocorex> brb
[07:17] <Milktea> well it's recording
[07:17] <Milktea> but it's waayy weirdd
[07:17] <Milktea> 2000+ to 100+ fps
[07:18] <xtacocorex> that's odd, but then again, i don't know what to expect
[07:18] <xtacocorex> brb
[07:22] <Evera> uh
[07:23] <Evera> i tried running WoW again
[07:23] <Evera> and after it "loaded" the map
[07:23] <Evera> my comp froze
[07:23] <Evera> D=
[07:24] <Milktea> ima try wine
[07:24] <Milktea> it's faster in wine
[07:24] <Milktea> o-o
[07:24] <Milktea> brb
[07:24] <Milktea> BAJEEZNITS
[07:24] <Milktea> it works
[07:24] <Milktea> I love you all
[07:24] <Milktea> except
[07:24] <Milktea> there is no sound
[07:24] <Milktea> which is sad
[07:24] <Milktea> but whatever
[07:24] <Milktea> ohno
[07:25] <Milktea> i can't click stuff
[07:25] <Milktea> stuff isn't clickable
[07:25] <Milktea> agh
[07:25] <apokryphos> !enter
[07:25] <ubotu> don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[07:27] <pietro> hej
[07:29] <Milktea> uh
[07:29] <Milktea> it worked for a lil bit
[07:30] <Milktea> but then my comp froze again
[07:30] <Milktea> feedback?
[07:30] <blackflag> I have aprobelm with kmail and pgp
[07:31] <blackflag> when I use gpgme, it says me it gpgme is not compiled with support for openpgp
[07:31] <blackflag> and so I can not use pgp in kmail
[07:32] <blackflag> Waht is wrong with that?
[07:32] <blackflag> I reinstall gpgme with no succsess
[07:32] <blackflag> has someone an idea?
[07:32] <blackflag> is something missing?
[07:33] <apokryphos> blackflag: /topic
[07:33] <blackflag> ?
[07:34] <apokryphos> check the channel topic
[07:34] <MachineScrew> cool hal is soon to be fixed :)
[07:35] <MachineScrew> see I got the topic
[07:35] <MachineScrew> downloading downloading downloading.....
[07:37] <MachineScrew> cool hal is soon to be fixed :)
[07:37] <MachineScrew> see I got the topic
[07:37] <apokryphos> sampan: well, what exactly are you trying?
[07:37] <MachineScrew> downloading downloading downloading.....
[07:37] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: is there a reason for why you're now flooding? :/
[07:37] <apokryphos> sampan: right-click on clock -> adjust date-time ?
[07:37] <sampan> apokryphos  i've tried setting it via system settings --> time & date ... i've tried setting it via right-clicking on the clock and then configure time/date and i've even tried setting it via cli
[07:38] <apokryphos> and what's the error?
[07:38] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: no those are the things I wanted to say but i relized I didn't identify sory
[07:38] <xtacocorex> Milktea: yeah, i totally fubared my system with the opengl stuff
[07:38] <Milktea> oh
[07:38] <Milktea> What happened to it?
[07:38] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: they all came through to the channel... twice.
[07:38] <apokryphos> MachineScrew: nm
[07:38] <MachineScrew> apokryphos: oh  again sorry
[07:38] <xtacocorex> Milktea: wouldn't even load the kde, just booted to the command line
[07:39] <sampan> apokryphos  after the first time setting via right-click configure -- it gave me a "KDE su error" -- and then i couldn't do ANY sudo commands -- my monitor went blank for a while, came back, and every time i did a sudo (say with apt-get) i got: sudo: timestamp too far in the future
[07:39] <Milktea> oh
[07:39] <Milktea> that sucks
[07:39] <Milktea> Well
[07:39] <Milktea> I got it to work
[07:39] <Milktea> using wine
[07:39] <Milktea> wine WoW.exe -opengl
[07:39] <Milktea> er
[07:39] <apokryphos> !enter
[07:39] <ubotu> don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It's annoying and spams the channel. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[07:39] <Milktea> $ wine WoW.exe -opengl
[07:39] <Milktea> Sorry
[07:39] <xtacocorex> Milktea: ok, good luck, sorry that i couldn't help out more
[07:39] <sampan> now, i can right-click it, and actually configure and set it to PDT in the GUI, but the clock still says 05:36 -- which is UTC
[07:39] <MachineScrew> Milktea: what is WoW ?
[07:39] <apokryphos> sampan: sudo doesn't work? That's not an adjusting time/date problem, that's a real sudo problem
[07:40] <Milktea> xtacocorex thanks. Does anyone know why World of Warcraft crashes after a few minutes and I can't click on anything?
[07:40] <Milktea> MachineScrew: World of Warcraft
[07:40] <Milktea> I'm using wine btw
[07:40] <MachineScrew> Milktea: ya ok
[07:40] <sampan> apokryphos  well i logged out, got a bunch of sigfaults, rebooted, then now i -CAN- change it via GUI, but the clock still shows UTC
[07:40] <MachineScrew> Milktea: ya i saw why not cdegia ?
[07:41] <Milktea> no money
[07:41] <Milktea> T_T
[07:41] <MachineScrew> Milktea: Pirate lol
[07:41] <sampan> it's hilarious -- in the GUI the clock changes -- the hands move from 05:41 to 22:41 -- but on the desktop, it's still 05:41
[07:41] <Milktea> I tried
[07:41] <MachineScrew> Milktea: no I am only kidding
[07:41] <apokryphos> sampan: manually edit /etc/default/rcS then to tell it you don't want UTC
[07:41] <Milktea> ok
[07:41] <MachineScrew> Milktea: what whent  wrong
[07:42] <MachineScrew> Milktea: the pirate thing
[07:42] <Milktea> slow FPS
[07:42] <Milktea> and freezes after a while
[07:42] <Milktea> can't even load map
[07:42] <Milktea> using wine, it's a normal FPS
[07:42] <MachineScrew> damn that sucks
[07:42] <Milktea> and I could load the map
[07:42] <Milktea> but I can't click on stuff
[07:42] <Milktea> sound is not ther
[07:42] <MachineScrew> have you gotten hit with that pluage
[07:42] <Milktea> and it freezes after a while
[07:42] <Milktea> what pluage?
[07:42] <MachineScrew> in wow
[07:43] <sampan> apokryphos should i log out/restart to reload that file?
[07:43] <Milktea> ?
[07:43] <Milktea> Which plague?
[07:43] <MachineScrew> Milktea: the most recent one
[07:43] <dicrapio> need some help duilding kde packages,
[07:43] <Milktea> ?
[07:43] <sampan> was easy to switch the UTC=yes to UTC=no ... but i assume i need to reload it somehow
[07:43] <Milktea> Do you mean patch?
[07:43] <apokryphos> sampan: save and close; changes may only take affect after reboot; I don't know the command to reset time unfortunately
[07:43] <MachineScrew> Milktea: is some virus that is infecting every one
[07:44] <sampan> that's okay :)  i don't mind a reboot here and there to get it going right
[07:44] <Milktea> oh
[07:44] <Milktea> no
[07:44] <MachineScrew> Milktea: no the "in" the game it self
[07:44] <sampan> brb
[07:44] <MachineScrew> ok
[07:44] <MachineScrew> i don't play it but I have heard about it 3 times
[07:44] <Milktea> oh
[07:44] <Milktea> No
[07:45] <MachineScrew> that and people selling stuff on ebay from wow
[07:46] <aaz> hey all i tested mandriva and man it is sloow
[07:46] <aaz> kubuntu is faster i suppose
[07:46] <dicrapio> how can i fix this when cofiguring a kde pkg? checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[07:47] <aaz> paste the whole message here
[07:48] <dicrapio> thats it
[07:48] <aaz> a package is missing
[07:48] <dicrapio> thas all it says
[07:48] <dicrapio> it configures fine until it hits that line
[07:48] <aaz> what were you trying to do
[07:48] <sampan> apokryphos  :(
[07:48] <aaz> whats that
[07:48] <chavo> your missing x include files
[07:48] <dicrapio> build diskfree-1.5
[07:49] <dicrapio> chavo: yup i think thas the prob
[07:49] <chavo> x11proto-core-dev is the name I think
[07:49] <aaz> my question : is kubuntu faster than mandriva
[07:49] <sampan> same problem ... still won't let me change the time.  i can right click, adjust date/time ... it says Timezone is UTC, but i can use the menu to change it to America/LosAngeles, hit "apply" and "ok" -- clock stays the same and if i open up the adjust dialog again, it's back to UTC
[07:49] <dicrapio> let me check
[07:51] <dicrapio> no pkgs by that name
[07:51] <dicrapio> ho wait,
[07:52] <dicrapio> yup found it
[07:54] <mekgp> hiya hobbsee!
[07:54] <Hobbsee> hey mekgp
[07:55] <dicrapio> chavo: is getting the error after installing that pkg
[07:55] <sampan> i suppose i can just swap out to the old hoary HD ... :X  i dunno why a simple clock should be so obstinate
[07:55] <Hobbsee> sampan: what are you trying to do?
[07:55] <chavo> dicrapio, same error?
[07:55] <Hobbsee> clock shouldnt be that hard to figure out
[07:55] <dicrapio> yup
[07:55] <sampan> hobbsee  just trying to set my clock to my time zone
[07:55] <sampan> yeah you would think it should be easy
[07:55] <mekgp> have you heard any issues with power management and ati cards in breezy mentioned hobbsee??
[07:56] <chavo> hold on I had the same problem today, let me see what I installed
[07:56] <Hobbsee> sampan: you've tried in system settings, presumably?
[07:56] <dicrapio> im doing just ./configure
[07:56] <chavo> dicrapio, try x-window-system-dev
[07:56] <sampan> hobbsee, yes ... and by right clicking the clock and doing 'adjust time and date'
[07:56] <dicrapio> k
[07:57] <Hobbsee> mekgp: um...power management's supposed to be better in breezy, I dont really read much about ati cards
[07:57] <chavo> I had all of the x includes installed, but updating to breezy removed them
[07:57] <Hobbsee> mekgp: probably check on ubuntuforums and see if anyone's mentioned it
[07:57] <sampan> the GUI comes up, saying my timezone is UTC -- i use the drop down tab below that to change it to America/LosAngeles -- hit "apply", "okay" -- the line changes to PDT, but the clock doesn't
[07:57] <chavo> so I went to do my KDE build today and it stopped
[07:58] <sampan> and if i re-open the GUI (via sys settings or right click on the clock) it's set right back to UTC
[07:58] <Hobbsee> sampan:  that's odd
[07:58] <sampan> indeed
[07:58] <Hobbsee> is the locale correct in system settings?
[07:58] <sampan> it's a brand new hd with a fresh install of breezy
[07:59] <Hobbsee> ooh i've just found out where the keyboard shortcuts listing is, i could never find that before
[07:59] <chavo> Hobbsee, they hid it pretty good huh?
[08:00] <Hobbsee> chavo: that they did, i'm so glad kcontrol was left in there!  i've been using that instead most of the time
[08:00] <Jeevan> i'm now off on my hoary to breezy upgrade adventure ...
[08:00] <Jeevan> wish me luck ;)
[08:00] <Hobbsee> Jeevan: fun...good luck!
[08:00] <sampan> hobbsee, well the locale in sys settings --regional was set to 'default', not to north america, but even after changing it to NA, the problem persists
[08:00] <Jeevan> thanks :)
[08:01] <dicrapio> chavo: well that one did it, but now i get this one checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[08:01] <chavo> once you've used kcontrol a couple of times it's easy to find what you need
[08:01] <Hobbsee> chavo: exactly
[08:01] <dicrapio> i thought installing the build-essential pkg would of taken care of this?
[08:01] <chavo> dicrapio, libqt3-mt-dev
[08:01] <Hobbsee> sampan: you presumably set it to UTC during the install accidently
[08:02] <dicrapio> :)
[08:02] <sampan> perhaps, but there really should be a way to change it post-install
[08:02] <chavo> dicrapio, no it doesn't install a lot of libraries, just essential stuff
[08:02] <Hobbsee> sampan: i'm sure there is, we've just got to find it lol
[08:02] <sampan> well i think we HAVE found it, but it's quite badly broken
[08:02] <dicrapio> ah
[08:02] <sampan> system settings -- date & time really should do the trick
[08:04] <dicrapio> does adept remove the pkgs after they r installed?
[08:05] <Hobbsee> dicrapio: not unless you set it to, i recall
[08:05] <chavo> dicrapio, well it can cache them, I can't remember what the default is
[08:05] <Hobbsee> http://www.mepis.org/node/7678 solution is third from the bottom, or so
[08:05] <Hobbsee> try it, anyway
[08:05] <Hobbsee> chavo: default is that the packages stay
[08:06] <dicrapio> where r the options?
[08:07] <Hobbsee> good question, where'd they go?
[08:07] <dicrapio> oh man, well that went through chavo, then this came checking for KDE... configure: error:
[08:07] <dicrapio> in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail.
[08:08] <chavo> dicrapio, try this kdelibs4-dev
[08:08] <Hobbsee> dicrapio: good question, maybe i was thinking of synaptic
[08:08] <chavo> what are you trying to build?
[08:09] <chavo> Hobbsee, yeah you can configure apt from synaptic
[08:09] <Hobbsee> sampan: did you see the link above?  http://www.mepis.org/node/7678 3rd or 4th from the bottom
[08:09] <Hobbsee> chavo: that was probably what i saw then
[08:09] <dicrapio> i know, i keep compoaring it to synaptic and realize how good synaptic is
[08:09] <sampan> hobbsee, yes, i'm working through the steps
[08:09] <dicrapio> i guess adept is a good first attempt tho
[08:09] <Hobbsee> sampan: cool :)
[08:10] <Hobbsee> dicrapio: it's certainly better than kynaptic :P
[08:10] <dicrapio> im trying to build diskfree
[08:10] <dicrapio> hell yeah
[08:10] <chavo> you might need kdebase-dev also
[08:11] <dicrapio> also if this works i want to biuild crystal (win deco) and smoothblend (win deco)
[08:11] <dicrapio> k
[08:11] <kaan> is there a way to completely undo a make install?
[08:12] <chavo> kaan, make uninstall
[08:12] <chavo> dicrapio, those are nice windecos
[08:12] <kaan> crap, i tried that and it didn't work
[08:12] <kaan> anything more serious?
[08:13] <dicrapio> i know, they r essential whenever i install any new system based on kde
[08:13] <chavo> kaan, not sure what you mean by that
[08:13] <sampan> hobbsee, again you've done the trick :)  i dunno how that got messed up -- but that did in fact solve it
[08:13] <dicrapio> and diskfree is a kicker applet to display info about partitions and drives, is really nice
[08:14] <kaan> well, i did a make install on a program directory that was compiled on another setup and the program didn't work
[08:14] <Hobbsee> sampan: quick google will solve most things, i'm glad it worked :)
[08:14] <kaan> so i tried to get rid of it, then build it right and install it but it still doesn't work
[08:14] <dicrapio> which reminds me, after make, i should do checkinstall?
[08:14] <sampan> hobbsee, well -- maybe i got lazy ... i had such an overwhelmingly positive experience with hoary that i just assumed there wouldn't be any snags with breezy
[08:14] <chavo> kaan, well you can do make distclean, that will put it back to it's original state
[08:15] <sampan> perhaps not a good assumption :X
[08:15] <chavo> kaan, then you can rerun configure, etc.
[08:15] <kaan> well i redownloaded the source and stuff already
[08:15] <kaan> will that also remove stuff it installed?
[08:15] <dicrapio> sweet, it finally made it through the config
[08:15] <chavo> kaan, if you configure it the same way, yes
[08:17] <Hobbsee> lol sampan
[08:17] <Hobbsee> i was merely saying how i found the answer
[08:17] <kaan> ok, i'll try that
[08:18] <sampan> hobbsee  i know -- i usually google too, but the help chans here on freenode induce some laziness since you all do such a good job helping newbs like myself
[08:19] <chx> I have a problem with Kubuntu. when I type eject /media/usbdisk , the USB pen remains plugged. I'd expect a something to hand over the usb  pen :D
[08:19] <sampan> induces*  (sheesh i can't type)
[08:20] <kaan> chavo: lol, took a closer look and it seems that wasn't the problem at all, lol
[08:20] <kaan> you get much more helpful error messages when you run things from the command line
[08:21] <sampan> brb
[08:21] <Hobbsee> lol
[08:24] <dicrapio> chavo: the pkg built, i used checkinstall to make it and got the deb file but after installing i cant c it from the add applet options in the kicker, any thoughts?
[08:25] <chavo> dicrapio, that's wierd I don't know what could be wrong. try restarting kicker
[08:25] <chavo> dcopquit kicker && kicker
[08:26] <dicrapio> i logged in and out, but i did ./configure and make then checkinstall
[08:26] <dicrapio> should i had doen ./configure --prefix=?
[08:29] <Hobbsee> what's dcopquit do?
[08:29] <chavo> dicrapio, yes
[08:29] <chavo> prefix /usr
[08:29] <Hobbsee> i usually use xkill, or top command, and kill it form there
[08:29] <dicrapio> hmm, i just looked at the installed files in synaptic and it placed everything on /usr/local
[08:30] <chavo> Hobbsee, not sure exactly but I got it from the guys in #kde
[08:30] <Hobbsee> ah ok
[08:30] <dicrapio> ah, getting closer and closer
[08:30] <chavo> dicrapio, yeah /usr/local is default for configure
[08:30] <dicrapio> btw, checkinstall is a nice utility
[08:30] <chavo> do --prefix /usr and it should work
[08:31] <chavo> dicrapio, did you notice there's a new release of crystal windeco today?
[08:31] <dicrapio> which?
[08:32] <dicrapio> let me check cause i just downloaded this one
[08:32] <dicrapio> 0.9.5?
[08:32] <chavo> that's probably it 0.9.5
[08:32] <chavo> just looking at kde-look.org
[08:33] <dicrapio> yaay it worked
[08:33] <dicrapio> diskfree is here to stay :)
[08:33] <dicrapio> thx for the help
[08:42] <crescent> good afternoon..............
[08:42] <crescent> good day!
[08:49] <chx> is there an midnight commander/emelFM alike on Kubuntu?
[08:51] <chx> Krusader?
[08:53] <fatejudger> I'm having a little bit of trouble with the clock in Kubuntu
[08:53] <fatejudger> I told it to use local time instead of GMT
[08:54] <fatejudger> so that it would work with Windows
[08:54] <fatejudger> but now it doesn't show the right time
[08:54] <fatejudger> how do I change that?
[08:54] <bsd3> hi
[09:14] <sampan> fatejudger  i -just- had that same problem
[09:15] <sampan> lemme find the link
[09:15] <crescent> SOS: I need to get a copy from another harddisk, but the pc cant detect the harddisk
[09:15] <sampan> http://www.mepis.org/node/7678    <--- the solution is the post titled Timezone Problem Fix about 3 or 4 posts down
[09:16] <crescent> SOS: I need to get a copy from another harddisk, i cant open the other harddisk
[09:19] <crescent> SOS: I need to get a copy from another harddisk, i cant open the other harddisk
[09:20] <roguejedix> Hello. Could anyone tell me why my mouse wheel works so slowly? I have to rotate it three full cycles before it moves anywhere
[09:20] <fatejudger> sampan: thanks, it worked
[09:20] <sampan> :) yw -- someone here helped me with it, so figured i should pass along the joy
[09:23] <crescent> SOS: I need to get a copy from another harddisk, i cant open the other harddisk
[09:30] <crescent> SOS: I need to get a copy from another harddisk, i cant open the other harddisk
[09:36] <crescent> SOS: I need to get a copy from another harddisk, i cant open the other harddisk
[09:37] <crescent> SOS: I need to get a copy from another harddisk, i cant mount the other harddisk
[09:37] <crescent> SOS: I need to get a copy from another harddisk, i cant mount the other harddisk
[09:37] <crescent> SOS: I need to get a copy from another harddisk, i cant mount the other harddisk pleeeeeeeeeeease
[09:38] <crescent> ping
[09:38] <crimsun> dude, stop flooding
[09:38] <crescent> sorry
[09:38] <crescent> im not a dude... dudette
[09:39] <crimsun> gender is irrelevant.
[09:39] <crescent> the point is... dont call me dude
[09:40] <crimsun> then stop flooding.
[09:40] <crimsun> and if you want help, try to provide more information
[09:40] <crimsun> we have no idea what you're trying to do
[09:40] <crescent> i said im sorry
[09:40] <crimsun> flailing your arms and screaming doesn't resolve anything
[09:40] <crescent> why are you so rude
[09:41] <crimsun> would you like to provide more context for your problem?
[09:43] <crescent> yeah... i dunno how to mount the other hard disk
[09:44] <crimsun> really need more context, and I presume you're trying to mount a partition (you don't mount an entire HD).
[09:44] <crimsun> e.g., is the partition from Win9x? 2k? XP? BSD? Linux? ...
[09:45] <JoHn123> hi
[09:56] <crescent> linux
[09:56] <delphiuk> i thought they had auto mounting in breezy now?
[09:56] <crescent> kubuntu
[09:57] <crimsun> crescent: so you're trying to mount a Linux partition?
[09:57] <crimsun> crescent: what's the partition?
[09:57] <crescent> ext3
[09:58] <crescent> yeah i remove the other hard disk of another computer coz i need files from it
[09:59] <crimsun> crescent: do you know which specific partition it is, like /dev/hdb2?
[10:00] <crescent> i cant find /dev/hdb2
[10:00] <crescent> only hda
[10:00] <crimsun> so which hda partition # is it?
[10:02] <crescent> how will i know?
[10:02] <crescent> what do i need to type in konsole
[10:03] <crimsun> sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda
[10:04] <crescent> ei i also tried hdb and i saw three partitions too
[10:04] <crescent> the other harddisk is hdb then
[10:04] <crimsun> (which is why I suggested hdb in the first place ;-)
[10:04] <crescent> :) how can i get my files from that hdb?
[10:05] <crimsun> what's the output from sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[10:05] <crimsun> ?
[10:06] <crescent> device boot                                   start                          end                       blocks                                        id                              system
[10:06] <crescent>   /dev/hdb1           *              1          1185          9518481                 83                   Linux
[10:07] <crescent>  /dev/hdb2            1186        1240      441787+   5  Extended
[10:07] <crescent>  /dev/hdb5            1186        1240      441756   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[10:07] <crimsun> ok, so sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /mnt
[10:08] <crescent> then
[10:08] <crescent> back to crescent@crescent:/
[10:11] <fatejudger> I can't seem to play any video files using gstreamer
[10:11] <fatejudger> what exactly made the Kubuntu developers go from Xine to gstreamer?
[10:11] <fatejudger> Xine never had this problem
 i can see the files already but i cant copy
[10:15] <crimsun> crescent: what are you trying to copy?
[10:15] <crimsun> fatejudger: what app are you using?
 the files from /mnt/home/hernan/crescent_backup/home/crescent/
 when i tried these:   sudo cp /mnt/home/hernan/crescent_backup/home/crescent /home/crescent
[10:16] <crescent> it says: cp: omitting directory `/mnt/home/hernan/crescent_backup/home/crescent'
[10:17] <fatejudger> crimsun: Kaffeine
[10:17] <fatejudger> crimsun: it gives me this error "No URI handler implemented for... (insert filename here)"
[10:17] <crimsun> crescent: cp /mnt/home/hernan/crescent_backup/home/crescent /home/crescent/.
[10:17] <crimsun> err
[10:17] <crimsun> cp -a
[10:18] <crimsun> fatejudger: so just install kaffeine-xine from universe?
 what does the a do?
 cp -a
[10:20] <fatejudger> crimsun: well I did
[10:20] <fatejudger> crimsun: but I don't want xine
[10:20] <fatejudger> crimsun: I want gstreamer
[10:20] <fatejudger> crimsun: xine crashes when you use kaffeine-mozilla
[10:20] <fatejudger> crimsun: but gstreamer doesn't
[10:20] <crimsun> fatejudger: what types of files are you trying to play?
[10:21] <crimsun> fatejudger: i.e., did you install gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg?
[10:24] <fatejudger> crimsun: yes I did
[10:24] <fatejudger> crimsun: and the other plugin that plays wm-v9
[10:24] <crimsun> crescent: it preserves various file and directory attributes in addition to copying recursively
[10:24] <fatejudger> and I got the mplayer codecs to work with that
 its workin already. ive copied already... unfortunately, all the documents are locked? what can i do to resolve this?
[10:33] <crimsun> crescent: probably need write access on them
 what do i need to do?
[10:35] <crescent> how can i change the permission of these documents?
[10:37] <drasch> crescent: it sounds like they might be associated with your old UID... perhaps, you might run "chown -R <username> /path/to/documents"; where <username> is your username
 it returned:  bash: crescent: No such file or directory
[10:47] <crimsun> crescent: in your home directory, there should be a crescent directory, no?
 there is
 all the files i copied are there
[10:50] <crimsun> crescent: ls -l ~/
[10:50] <crescent> drwxr-xr-x  34 root     root         4096 2005-10-12 15:46 crescent
[10:50] <crescent> drwx------   2 crescent crescent     4096 2005-10-14 23:54 Desktop
[10:50] <crescent> drwxr-xr-x   9 crescent crescent     4096 2005-10-16 16:13 My Documents
[10:51] <crescent> drwxr-xr-x   2 crescent crescent     4096 2005-10-16 16:13 My Movies
[10:51] <crescent> drwxr-xr-x  29 crescent crescent     4096 2005-10-16 16:13 My Music
[10:51] <crescent> drwxr-xr-x   2 crescent crescent     4096 2005-10-16 16:13 My Pictures
[10:51] <crescent> drwxr-xr-x   2 crescent crescent     4096 2005-10-16 16:13 My Video
[10:51] <crescent> -rw-r--r--   1 root     root     49984748 2005-10-16 16:27 Track 02.wav
[10:53] <crimsun> ah
[10:53] <crimsun> you copied it as root?
[10:53] <crimsun> (using sudo)
[10:54] <crimsun> sudo chown -R crescent:crescent /home/crescent/crescent
[10:59] <SilvereX> hello. upgraded to breezy and now kde font selector doesn't show advanced font styles - like condensed or extended, when fonts have such style. any idea? gtk font selector shows them.
[11:00] <aaz> hey all , can anyone help me? I'm going to install kubuntu , but can i acces my Windows files
[11:01] <crimsun> yes, you can always read your Windows files
[11:01] <crimsun> you can't write to your NTFS partition, though
[11:01] <crimsun> (you can write to FAT)
[11:01] <aaz> and is it possible to use the same /home/user ?
[11:01] <aaz> as my mandriva partition
[11:01] <crimsun> yes, but beware of the conffile differences in ~/.*
[11:01] <crimsun> in that sense, it's better if you use a different user
[11:02] <aaz> i'd better remove then
[11:02] <crimsun> SilvereX: does xlsfonts list them?
[11:04] <SilvereX> crimsun: i'm using fontconfig only, i don't care for x core font configuration. but fc-list shows them :-)
[11:05] <crimsun> SilvereX: sounds like an KDE issue of which I'm not versed since I don't use KDE.
[11:05] <crimsun> a KDE^
[11:05] <SilvereX> but this is kubuntu channel?
[11:05] <aaz> 4 mins left for the kubuntu-installation
[11:06] <SilvereX> then you wouldn't know how to get google search bar back in konq
[11:06] <crimsun> SilvereX: no, I deal with sound issues across all of the Ubuntu-based distros.
[11:06] <aaz> what is the url to acces my windows-partition
[11:06] <Tm_T> SilvereX: just configure your toolbars :)
[11:07] <aaz> like this   /mnt ?
[11:07] <GeneralZod> SilvereX:I missed your question.  What is your query?
[11:07] <Pwn3r> My tv card outputs to my sound cards input. but I dont here any audio from it at all.
[11:08] <aaz> crimsun ,  what's the location of the windows partition ,  /mnt ??
[11:08] <GeneralZod> SilvereX:If it's about the Google search bar, Try Setting->Configure Extensions.
[11:08] <SilvereX> Tm_T, i cannot find the entry for search bar in a list there ;-)
[11:08] <blutrausch> moin
[11:08] <SilvereX> GeneralZod, there were two questions ;-)
[11:09] <Tm_T> SilvereX: :(
[11:09] <SilvereX> ok extensions list is empty
[11:09] <GeneralZod> SilvereX:Shoot :)
[11:09] <Tm_T> SilvereX: and I don't use any search bars
[11:09] <GeneralZod> SilvereX:Odd - in mine, the Configure Extensions list has the Google Search Bar as a checkbox :/
[11:10] <crimsun> aaz: depends where you mounted it.
[11:10] <SilvereX> ah huh
[11:10] <aaz> what do i need to do after clean install , i'm a newbie
[11:10] <aaz> sorry
[11:10] <SilvereX> i'm installing konq-plugins package, maybe that will have it
[11:11] <SilvereX> GeneralZod, the fist q: i upgraded to breezy and now kde font selector doesn't show advanced font styles - like condensed or extended, when fonts have such style. any idea? gtk font selector shows them.
[11:11] <SilvereX> *first

thanks for your help
[11:11] <GeneralZod> SilvereX:Maybe, although my Kubuntu install appears to have had it by default.
 you're an angel
[11:11] <crimsun> crescent: np
[11:12] <crimsun> aaz: what disk is the Windows partition on?
[11:12] <aaz> c
[11:12] <GeneralZod> SilvereX:Hmmm...I don't think mine does, either :/ Sorry!
[11:12] <aaz> the first one
[11:13] <GeneralZod> SilvereX:Although my font style lists the same font with different variations e.g. Deja Vu Sans, Deja Vu San Condensed, etc.
[11:15] <aaz> how long does a kubuntu installation take ?
[11:16] <GeneralZod> mornfall:It looks like you're away at the moment, but I just wanted to say what a neat job you did in the "Quick Filter" portion of Adept - having the search carried out in a separate thread is blissful after waiting for Synaptic to churn away before giving a single result :)
[11:18] <Pwn3r> id there a way to see if my audio input is working correctly?
[11:18] <SilvereX> yeah
[11:18] <SilvereX> konq-plugins solved that
[11:18] <SilvereX> too bad for font thingie, i used to have one wonderful font for amarok osd...
[11:20] <spiral> hi
[11:20] <bhna> hi
[11:21] <xuniL_> how do i mount my windows drive?
[11:23] <SilvereX> hmm
[11:24] <SilvereX> now how do i configure what search engines are shown in that search bar drop-down? ;-)
[11:24] <bhna> are there any bugfixes for the media-hal problem?
[11:28] <xuniL_> any one know witch package bunzip is in.
[11:28] <crimsun> bzip2 contains /usr/bin/bunzip2
[11:29] <xuniL_> thank you :D
[11:29] <xuniL_> thougt the command was bunzip ...
[11:30] <tenco> did a fresh install of breezy today and sudo isnt working
[11:30] <tenco> is there a workaround?
[11:31] <xuniL_> how do you know its not working
[11:31] <xuniL_> ?
[11:32] <tenco> i do "sudo vim /etc/network/interfaces" and nothing happens
[11:32] <tenco> or "sudo echo 'test'"
[11:32] <bhna> any workaround for usb-thumbdrive automounting?
[11:33] <xuniL_> whriteing the correct psw?
[11:33] <bsd3> Hay! I made remote installing Kubuntu a success from an ISO mounted to a doc-root via netboot!!
[11:34] <xuniL_> if you whant to have root psw to nothing that would be pretty easy
[11:34] <xuniL_> if you have a live cd..
[11:34] <tenco> xuniL_: yes
[11:34] <tenco> xuniL_: i dunno. sudo doesnt complain
[11:34] <bsd3> My netboot install of Breezy is running like a breeze!!!
[11:35] <tenco> xuniL_: phps i should just reinstall...
[11:35] <xuniL_> there are a file named password that the root psw are saved... if you enter with a live cd you can delete it...
[11:36] <puckman> Does anyone know how to convert mail from Thunderbird to kmail?
[11:38] <libben> lol, ive made winkey+space to start terminal and winkey+k to start konversation... but i cant find the shortcuts when im in the shortcuts sections
[11:39] <libben> wheres the file where i can see my added things
[11:39] <xuniL_> i need help with changeing kmenuedit
[11:39] <xuniL_> i cant change it..
[11:39] <libben> i did this before i updated to final
[11:39] <libben> xuniL_: how u mean
[11:39] <xuniL_> i add a item and put name and every thing and save but nothing happens
[11:40] <puckman> i guess no one knows then?
[11:40] <xuniL_> then i enter the menu..
[11:40] <libben> u mean it dont gets into the K-menu?
[11:40] <xuniL_> yeah
[11:41] <libben> ok
[11:41] <libben> do this ls -l /var/tmp/kdecache-libben/ksycoca
[11:41] <xuniL_> i have runed it in console now... iam getting some errors dont know how to fix...
[11:41] <libben> and paste me the one line that has the username and the group
[11:42] <libben> what have u runned in console?
[11:42] <xuniL_> i runned it like this "sudo kmenuedit"
[11:42] <xuniL_> www.pastebin.com
[11:43] <xuniL_> http://pastebin.com/395207
[11:43] <libben> u should never run KDE apps with SUDO
[11:43] <libben> if u wanna run it with root previliages
[11:43] <inc|freaky> damn
[11:43] <inc|freaky> :D
[11:43] <libben> use kdesu kmenuedit
[11:43] <inc|freaky> how to disable these smileys in kvirc
[11:43] <xuniL_> well i tried without and thats not working ither
[11:43] <libben> kdesu kmenuedit
[11:44] <libben> type that and it will work
[11:44] <libben> xuniL_: tell me what u get from doing this
[11:44] <libben> ls -l /var/tmp/kdecache-libben/ksycoca
[11:44] <xuniL_> no such file or directory
[11:45] <libben> type kbuildsycoca just in terminal and no sudo on it
[11:45] <xuniL_> then doing "kdesu kmenuedit" the superkaramba item are there that i whant to install...
[11:45] <xuniL_> but why doesent it show up in kmenu=
[11:45] <xuniL_> ?
[11:46] <libben> just type it in terminal
[11:46] <xuniL_> kbuildsycoca: ERROR creating database '/var/tmp/kdecache-samuelkr/ksycoca'!
[11:46] <xuniL_> kbuildsycoca: Wrong permissions on directory? Disk full?
[11:46] <libben> yes
[11:46] <libben> now type ls -l /var/tmp/kdecache-libben/ksycoca
[11:46] <libben> sorry
[11:46] <libben> not that one
[11:47] <xuniL_> ?
[11:47] <libben> ls -l /var/tmp/kdecache-samuelkr/ksycoca
[11:47] <libben> u need the username in there
[11:47] <libben> u got my username
[11:47] <libben> im still waking up =)
[11:47] <xuniL_> -rw-r--r--  1 root root<PHONE_NUMBER>-10-15 13:23 /var/tmp/kdecache-samuelkr/ksycoca
[11:47] <libben> yes
[11:47] <libben> its wrong
[11:47] <xuniL_> wrong?
[11:47] <libben> it should be samuelkr samuelkr
[11:47] <libben> instead of root root
[11:48] <xuniL_> okey... how do i change that?
[11:49] <libben> sudo chown samuelkr.samuelkr -R /var/tmp/kdecache-samuelkr/
[11:49] <libben> ls -l /var/tmp/kdecache-samuelkr/ksycoca
[11:49] <xuniL_> ahh now it says samuelkr
[11:49] <libben> ok
[11:49] <libben> good
[11:49] <libben> then u type the kbuildssycoca again
[11:50] <libben> -s
[11:50] <libben> kbuildsycoca
[11:50] <libben> and it should give u alot more warnings =)
[11:50] <libben> now look in ur menu
[11:50] <xuniL_> well it did
[11:50] <xuniL_> yay now i have five of the items i whant :D
[11:51] <xuniL_> thx a lot
[11:51] <libben> yes u can tnk me bye thanking Riddell. he did this step with me last nite.
[11:51] <libben> im glad i could help
[11:53] <xuniL_> :D
[11:54] <xuniL_> you may be can help me with my other problem... cant get into my windows drive
[11:55] <ph8> morning all
[11:55] <libben> xuniL_: how u mean
[11:55] <libben> u cant mount it?
[11:55] <libben> or u mean u cant boot to it from grub?
[11:56] <xuniL_> it is mounted
[11:56] <xuniL_> i can gett in to windows
[11:56] <ph8> Do you know if there's something that rivals adobe illustrator/photoshop for linux?
[11:57] <xuniL_> but i cant enter it from linux
[11:57] <libben> ph8: tried gimp?
[11:58] <libben> xuniL_: so u just wanna be able to read from it in linux.
[11:58] <xuniL_> yes... it is mounted but i cant enter
[11:58] <libben> and u mounted it to /media/andafoldernameherelikeWindos?
[11:58] <xuniL_> no its named Hard Disk (hda2)
[11:58] <libben> so what was the parm that u mounted it with?
[11:59] <xuniL_> it was automouted
[11:59] <libben> aah, u mean that windows is on a own hd? and u havent done anything except starting kubuntu ?
[11:59] <xuniL_> yes
[12:00] <xuniL_> and no..
[12:00] <libben> k
[12:01] <libben> u need to mount it in fstab if u want it to be perm mounted
[12:01] <libben> otherwise u can just type one line
[12:01] <libben> but first go to /media
[12:01] <xuniL_> done
[12:01] <libben> and create a folder named windows
[12:01] <libben> or whatever u like
[12:02] <libben> and what do u have on ur windows hd? do u have many partitions? or is it just one big C:
[12:03] <xuniL_> i cant create a folder in media...
[12:03] <libben> ur doing it in terminal?
[12:03] <xuniL_> there are this linux partition and swap and C
[12:03] <xuniL_> no..
[12:03] <libben> konq?
[12:03] <xuniL_> yes
[12:05] <xuniL_> i am in media now in shell
[12:06] <libben> then u can type sudo mkdir windows
[12:07] <libben> u need root priv to create a folder outside ur home folder.... U can do anything in ur home folder sort of speak.. and as soon u go out to / "root" and go into its subfolders. u need root priv if u wanna change or add something
[12:07] <xuniL_> done
[12:07] <xuniL_> k
[12:08] <libben> hang on... gonna fetch u a url also
[12:11] <libben> xuniL_: sorry for the holdup. was using the *cough*facilities
[12:11] <libben> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[12:12] <xuniL_> np
[12:12] <libben> u need to know wich partition u gonna mount also =)
[12:13] <xuniL_> should i just do sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[12:13] <libben> well, yes and no
[12:14] <xuniL_> okey?
[12:14] <libben> if u do that u gonna mount hda1, and u can see the contents of it in /media/windows
[12:14] <libben> but im guessing u gonna be mounting the wrong partition =)
[12:14] <libben> type sudo fdisk -l to see all ur partitions
[12:15] <libben> for example
[12:15] <libben> i have also hda1
[12:15] <libben> and i mounted hda1,5
[12:15] <libben> if not misstaking
[12:15] <xuniL_> i tink that mine are hd2
[12:15] <libben> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com
[12:16] <libben> put the whole fdisk output there
[12:16] <xuniL_> but if its the wrong partition aint it just unmount it..
[12:16] <xuniL_> are the -l a i or L?
[12:16] <libben> L
[12:17] <xuniL_> if i type fdisk -l (L)
[12:17] <xuniL_> nothing happens
[12:17] <libben> u need sudo on it
[12:17] <xuniL_> k
[12:17] <libben> but
[12:17] <libben> u must type it with L
[12:17] <libben> sudo fdisk -l
[12:17] <xuniL_> done
[12:18] <xuniL_> its hd2
[12:18] <libben> paste the results into the pastebin url above
[12:18] <xuniL_> its done
[12:18] <xuniL_> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/395224
[12:18] <_robin> hibernate and suspend works great, but I always have to setup wlan0 manualy after a resume.. so :ifconfig wlan0 up & dhcpclient3
[12:18] <_robin> how can I do that automaticaly.
[12:21] <libben> xuniL_: just try them both
[12:21] <libben> i mean
[12:21] <libben> try mounting hda1 first
[12:21] <libben> then look in /media/windows folder if it was the right one =)
[12:21] <libben> if it wasnt
[12:21] <libben> you umount /media/windows
[12:21] <xuniL_> k
[12:22] <libben> go out from the folder first. then type umount /media/windows
[12:22] <libben> and mount the other hda2
[12:22] <libben> and look in /media/windows again
[12:22] <libben> and when u find the right one... u add the line to fstab
[12:22] <libben> so it will be fixed at bootup everytime
[12:23] <libben> but when u add to fstab u need another line then the one ur doing, cause that is just manually mounting
[12:23] <libben> add this line to fstab
[12:24] <libben> and this line u add in /etc/fstab file: /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[12:24] <libben> and u need to sudo into that line
[12:24] <libben> use kdesu if u want a graphical
[12:24] <libben> kdesu kate /etc/fstab
[12:25] <libben> and add the line /dev/hda1       /media/windows  ntfs    nls=utf8,umask=0222 0       0
[12:25] <libben> and dont forget to use the right hda1 or 2
[12:26] <xuniL_> your moveing a litle to fast :D
[12:26] <bobbyd> well, I just tried to update kubuntu using the CD and synaptic. when I rebooted I got a kernel panic saying that it couldnt' find hda. I'm just reinstalling from the CD.
[12:26] <bobbyd> did anyone else see anything like that?
[12:26] <xuniL_> mount: /dev/hda2 already mounted or /media/windows/ busy
[12:26] <xuniL_> mount: according to mtab, /dev/hda2 is mounted on /media/hda2
[12:27] <xuniL_> is says then i tryed to mount hd2
[12:28] <libben> hmm
[12:29] <libben> was hda1 wrong by the way? it was ur c: ?
[12:29] <xuniL_> i have a hardisk named hda2
[12:29] <xuniL_> tryed to umount it dident work..
[12:29] <xuniL_> wrong fs tab
[12:29] <xuniL_> and a lot more
[12:29] <xuniL_> i think thats my linux drive
[12:30] <libben> trye typing umount -f /media/windows
[12:31] <xuniL_> i am in my windows drive now..
[12:31] <xuniL_> got it mounted on /media/windows
[12:32] <libben> so whats in there ?
[12:32] <xuniL_> cant see in on media thow..
[12:32] <xuniL_> all my files...
[12:33] <xuniL_> and i cant see the windows dir
[12:33] <xuniL_> and i still see the hd2 on media... that i umounted..
[12:33] <libben> all my files that u wanted to be there ?
[12:34] <xuniL_> yes
[12:34] <libben> so its all good?
[12:35] <xuniL_> no not fully..
[12:35] <xuniL_> .
[12:35] <xuniL_> i cant see the windows drive in media...
[12:35] <xuniL_> but i see the hda2 drive that i umounted...
[12:35] <xuniL_> or do i need to restart do take a effekt
[12:35] <xuniL_> ?
[12:36] <libben> svenne
[12:36] <CellarDoor> hi folks... I have a question or two concerning doing a dist-upgrade to breezy
[12:36] <xuniL_> svenne?
[12:36] <libben> svensk?
[12:37] <xuniL_> mm
[12:37] <libben> sg et =)
[12:37] <xuniL_> du med?
[12:37] <libben> m
[12:37] <xuniL_> heh
[12:37] <xuniL_> i fstab s str det redan en hda2
[12:37] <xuniL_> ta bort den raden?
[12:38] <libben> pasta din fstab
[12:38] <libben> pastebin d
[12:38] <Chousuke> #ubuntu-se or something, please :/
[12:38] <CellarDoor> I changed all instances of "hoary" in my sources list to "breezy"... did an update and then did a dist-upgrade and left it overnight... today I expected to be using breezy but I'm still on hoary for some reason... can anyone tell me whats happening here ?
[12:38] <xuniL_> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/395235
[12:39] <libben> so whats in it then ? is there folder /hda2 in media?
[12:39] <xuniL_> ja men kan inte g in i den...
[12:40] <Chousuke> CellarDoor: um, did you apt-get update?
[12:40] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: yeppers
[12:40] <libben> k
[12:40] <libben> hmm=)
[12:40] <Chousuke> CellarDoor: and it did upgrade?
[12:40] <bobbyd> xuniL_, I think this is an english channel. I'm not sure anyone speaks danish?
[12:40] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: dist-upgrade yes
[12:40] <xuniL_> lol its swedish!
[12:40] <Chousuke> swedish. p
[12:40] <libben> bobbyd: ! its swedish... dont insult us
[12:41] <libben> danish pfff
[12:41] <bobbyd> sorry
[12:41] <xuniL_> :D
[12:41] <Chousuke> CellarDoor: then it should be upgraded
[12:41] <bobbyd> libben,  I can't tell from just looking
[12:41] <Chousuke> Why do you think it's still Hoary?
[12:41] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: yeah thats why I'm scratching my head here
[12:41] <bobbyd> libben, I'm actually part swedish, an eighth :)
[12:41] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: cause there's no indication that anything has been upgraded
[12:41] <Chousuke> CellarDoor: checked versions?
[12:42] <Chousuke> CellarDoor: it doesn't really change much on the outside :P
[12:42] <bobbyd> xuniL_, what's the easiest way to tell the different between writtern danish and swedish?
[12:42] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: I'm still on KDE 3.4.2 for example, I don't have the new login screen etc...
[12:42] <Chousuke> hm.
[12:42] <xuniL_> hmmm....
[12:43] <coruja> CellarDoor: cat /etc/issue to find out your current release
[12:43] <xuniL_> dunno...
[12:43] <libben> its
[12:43] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: Ubuntu 5.04 "Hoary Hedgehog" \n \l
[12:43] <bobbyd> xuniL_, ok, I'll google it
[12:43] <libben> danish dont use those
[12:43] <xuniL_> then dansih are speaking then you can hear the difference..
[12:43] <bobbyd> ahh
[12:44] <bobbyd> xuniL_, yes, we have a danish guy at work
[12:44] <Chousuke> CellarDoor: double check your sources.list
[12:44] <libben> danish is like filthy talk... swedish should replace english or spanish =)
[12:44] <xuniL_> libben have should i remove the hda2 line?
[12:44] <Chousuke> libben: arfgms
[12:44] <xuniL_> heh at least spanish :D
[12:44] <Chousuke> English is easier than Swedish
[12:45] <xuniL_> yes but swedish is easyer than spanish
[12:45] <Chousuke> maybe.
[12:45] <Chousuke> Never studied spanish
[12:45] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: can I pm you my sources.list ?
[12:46] <Chousuke> CellarDoor: go ahead.
[12:46] <libben> well, swedish is more clean and more logical... english is not so logical.
[12:46] <Chousuke> But English is simple still
[12:47] <Pwn3r> my tv card worked ok a few days ago but now kdetv gives me a segmentation fault :(
[12:47] <Chousuke> swedish has gender and -or -ar -er and whatever x_x
[12:47] <Pwn3r> and tvtime says it needs more memory?
[12:48] <CellarDoor> am I still on ?
[12:48] <CellarDoor> I keep getting dc
[12:48] <Chousuke> hmm
[12:48] <Chousuke> yes?
[12:48] <Chousuke> :P
[12:48] <xuniL_> libben should i remove the hda2 line
[12:48] <xuniL_> ?
[12:49] <libben> dont really know =)
[12:49] <xuniL_> heh
[12:49] <CellarDoor> ok I'm not registered yet so I'll just paste a bit here
[12:49] <Chousuke> ah
[12:49] <Chousuke> don't
[12:49] <coruja> CellarDoor: use http://kubuntu.pastebin.com for large amount of text
[12:49] <CellarDoor> ok
[12:49] <coruja> i.e. about 5 lines or more
[12:49] <Chousuke> CellarDoor: I didn't realise you couldn't PM me :P
[12:49] <libben> but u say its all good... u see al the files u wanna access in /media/windows with hda1 ?
[12:50] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: me neither :p
[12:50] <xuniL_> i see all the files in shell but not in konq
[12:50] <xuniL_> and its hda2
[12:50] <xuniL_> remove the hda2 line in fstab
[12:50] <xuniL_> and but in the other line
[12:51] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: ok, I've just pasted my sources.list in the pastebin
[12:51] <Chousuke> paste a link then :)
[12:51] <CellarDoor> oh
[12:51] <CellarDoor> :p
[12:51] <CellarDoor> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/395244
[12:52] <CellarDoor> this pastebin thing aint a bad looking idea
[12:52] <libben> some1 more experienced than me should take over here. =)
[12:52] <Chousuke> deb ftp://bolugftp.uni-bonn.de/pub/kde/stable/3.4.2/kubuntu breezy-updates main I think this is redundant :P
[12:52] <libben> Chousuke: u wanna jump in on a mounting help?
[12:53] <Chousuke> Well, tell me what's wrong and I'll see if I can help :P
[12:53] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: ah yes
[12:53] <libben> we created a /media/windows folder and looked at the partitions with fdisk -l and mounted hda1 to see if that was the right part to mount, then umount it and try to mount the hda2 to see what that was.
[12:54] <libben> but he allready has hda2 mounted in fstab
[12:54] <libben> but he cant look at it in /media/hda2
[12:54] <xuniL_> i umounted hda2
[12:54] <xuniL_> and mounted it again to the windows folder!
[12:54] <Chousuke> if it's in fstab it doesn't mean it's mounted.
[12:54] <libben> xuniL_: there is a folder called hda2 in /media? or did i get that wrong
[12:54] <azertyuuu> hello all
[12:54] <xuniL_> its named
[12:54] <azertyuuu> i'm new to kubuntu and i want to get acces to my windowsfiles, can anyone help me
[12:55] <xuniL_> "hard drive (hda2)"
[12:55] <Chousuke> hmm
[12:55] <Chousuke> and it's ntfs?
[12:55] <azertyuuu> yes
[12:56] <xuniL_> i can enter media/windows in console to gett my files but not with konq
[12:56] <xuniL_> yes its ntfs
[12:56] <Chousuke> what happens with konqueror?
[12:56] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: so, I should just # that out then ? and maybe change deb http://kubuntu.org/hoary-kde342 breezy-updates main to "kde343" ??
[12:56] <Chousuke> CellarDoor: no. it's useless in breezy
[12:56] <Chousuke> !breezy
[12:56] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:57] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: oh
[12:57] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: of course
[12:58] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: I missed that bit... but looks like I need to paste from the guide anyway
[12:59] <CellarDoor> ubotu: thanks for the link
[12:59] <ubotu> CellarDoor: gern geschehen
[12:59] <xuniL_> so my hda2 is now mounted in media/windows and umounted in media/hda2 but hda2 is still showned in media and my new mounted windows folder aint showing...
[12:59] <CellarDoor> ubotu: ?
[12:59] <ubotu> CellarDoor: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:00] <Chousuke> ubotu is a bot :P
[01:00] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Chousuke
[01:00] <CellarDoor> oh
[01:00] <Chousuke> heh.
[01:00] <CellarDoor> :p
[01:00] <xuniL_> i like you ubotu
[01:01] <xuniL_> chousuke should i try to "ctrl+alt+backspace?
[01:01] <Chousuke> that'd only restart X :P
[01:01] <Chousuke> !ntfs
[01:01] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the (N)(T) (F)ile(S)ystem, the filesystem normally used under Windows XP. To automatically mount your NTFS partition/s - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[01:01] <xuniL_> but do i need to restart to gett it showing in media?
[01:02] <Chousuke> xuniL_: I think this might be hal trouble.
[01:02] <Chousuke> xuniL_: if it is, then it's a known bug
[01:02] <xuniL_> hal?
[01:02] <CellarDoor> Chousuke: thanks for the help, I shall follow the BreezyUpgrade guide and I should be right
[01:02] <xuniL_> any fix?
[01:02] <Chousuke> how are you trying to access the mount?
[01:02] <CellarDoor> gtg
[01:02] <Chousuke> not yet AFAIK
[01:02] <Chousuke> with media://?
[01:02] <xuniL_> media/windows
[01:03] <Chousuke> so hm
[01:03] <Chousuke> is it mounted there? :P
[01:03] <xuniL_> no..
[01:04] <Chousuke> hm. well obviously you wouldn't see the files then
[01:04] <xuniL_> but if i cd /media/windows
[01:04] <xuniL_> i can se them in console
[01:04] <Chousuke> as a users?
[01:04] <xuniL_> trying the howto you send.
[01:04] <Chousuke> -s
[01:05] <Chousuke> because that's really weird
[01:05] <Chousuke> if you can see it as /media/windows then it's mounted
[01:05] <Chousuke> and it should be like just another directory
[01:05] <xuniL_> yeah...
[01:06] <Chousuke> are you sure you're not using media:/// to access it?
[01:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> mount: RPC: Program not registered
[01:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> any idea what causese this when trying to mount nfs shares? i think its to do with rpc not being able to listen out
[01:06] <Chousuke> you need that mapper thing I think.
[01:06] <Kamping_Kaiser> ah , thats it :O
[01:06] <xuniL_> yeah i am sure
[01:06] <Chousuke> portmap
[01:07] <xuniL_> chousuke whanna vnc?
[01:07] <Chousuke> xuniL_: do you have proper permission to the dir?
[01:07] <xuniL_> dont know if its working thow.
[01:07] <Chousuke> xuniL_: fine by me.
[01:07] <Chousuke> Hope it isn't too slow :P
[01:07] <xuniL_> heh
[01:09] <Chousuke> xuniL_: can you PM me? :P
[01:09] <spiral> hi
[01:09] <xuniL_> need to reg..
[01:09] <Chousuke> are you on other networks?
[01:09] <xuniL_> give mail and i will send it..
[01:10] <xuniL_> no..
[01:10] <Chousuke> I wonder if there is an option to allow unregged PMs
[01:11] <xuniL_> give mail and i send a invitation
[01:11] <Chousuke> /whois me
[01:11] <Chousuke> and take out the 1= part
[01:11] <Chousuke> i=
[01:12] <Chousuke> I don't want to say my mail on this channel in case there are spambots :P
[01:12] <DexterF_> hi
[01:12] <xuniL_> eheh k
[01:13] <DexterF_> how do I change the X refresh? My monitor is connected via BNC so no EDID info hence X drops to 60Hz
[01:13] <DexterF_> which doesn't rock of course
[01:14] <Chousuke> now if I only would get a VNC client installed
[01:15] <xuniL_> heh:D
[01:16] <xuniL_> now its posted
[01:16] <Chousuke> ok.
[01:16] <Smeggy> hello, i have a question: how can I switch over to my USB audio device in Kubuntu?
[01:16] <Chousuke> might take a while to arrive.
[01:16] <Chousuke> :P
[01:16] <xuniL_> k
[01:17] <xuniL_> if it dont work first time test port 5900
[01:17] <Smeggy> the usb audio device is supported under Linux, as it worked in Ubuntu, and KDE knows about it as it shows up in KInfoCenter
[01:17] <Smeggy> but i'm not sure how to switch over to using it :)
[01:18] <Chousuke> xuniL_: it sent me your lan address :/
[01:18] <Chousuke> can i get your IP from your whois?
[01:18] <xuniL_> got to get no-ip working ..
[01:19] <xuniL_> <IP_ADDRESS>
[01:19] <xuniL_> thats my ip
[01:20] <xuniL_> can you connecT?
[01:22] <Chousuke> trying :P
[01:22] <iface> how to unrar files? ark says that i have to install unrar, but there is no package in adept called unrar...
[01:22] <Chousuke> I'll use the web interface
[01:22] <xuniL_> ahh.
[01:23] <the_low|afk> hi chan
[01:23] <Smeggy> So, does anyone know how to switch between soundcards?
[01:23] <Chousuke> except it seems to not load properlu
[01:23] <xuniL_> is it loading the java applet?
[01:23] <Chousuke> which display is it?
[01:23] <xuniL_> try the 5900 port
[01:23] <the_low> problem: i need to run a script with root rights - could anybody point me in the right (google) direction, plz?
[01:24] <the_low> regularly, without sudo, that is
[01:24] <xuniL_> <IP_ADDRESS>:5900
[01:24] <DexterF_> chown it to root and set suid bit
[01:24] <DexterF_> man chmod
[01:24] <the_low> DexterF_: thanks.
[01:26] <xuniL_> chousuke <IP_ADDRESS>:5900 try that...
[01:26] <Chousuke> xuniL_: trying
[01:26] <xuniL_> k
[01:26] <Chousuke> but it doesn't seem to like it
[01:26] <blurpy> it's sad that after 3 releases the (k)ubuntu installation still does not get the mode right for my laptop monitor, so it's black unless i set the framebuffer mode on the command line. and now i just finished a clean install of kubuntu, and when booting now, the screen is black again :/
[01:26] <Chousuke> are you sure your firewall isn't blocking anything?
[01:26] <xuniL_> hm... dunno
[01:26] <Chousuke> how about the java server?
[01:27] <xuniL_> havent configurate the firewall
[01:27] <xuniL_> i know that my routher have those port open
[01:27] <Chousuke> do you have 5800 open?
[01:27] <xuniL_> yes and 5900
[01:27] <Chousuke> it loads some java applet, but I can only see a red X
[01:27] <xuniL_> but i wrote that i should use 5900
[01:27] <Chousuke> the connection times out
[01:28] <DexterF_> when I tinker with xorg.conf with my fav editor it won't survive the next update, right?
[01:28] <azertyuuu> hey all, can somebody help me to install  opera
[01:29] <Smeggy> what do you need azertyuuu
[01:29] <azertyuuu> opera webbroswer installed
[01:29] <Chousuke> xuniL_: are you using tightvnc?
[01:30] <xuniL_> krfb
[01:30] <Chousuke> what is that?
[01:30] <Smeggy> azertyuuu, grab the static .deb from the opera site, run dpkg -i file.deb
[01:30] <Smeggy> thats all you need to do :)
[01:30] <xuniL_> thats the name of the program heh
[01:30] <Chousuke> ah, righ, KDE desktop sharing
[01:31] <azertyuuu> Smeggy the website says that i need to open in a texteditor
[01:31] <Smeggy> where does it say that azertyuuu?
[01:32] <azertyuuu> when it normally has to ask either to save or to open
[01:32] <Chousuke> xuniL_: the java applet isn't giving me access
[01:32] <xuniL_> how do i enable it then?
[01:32] <Chousuke> No idea.
[01:32] <xuniL_> heh
[01:33] <iface> where to get the packages RAR or UNRAR?
[01:33] <Chousuke> xuniL_: are you sure you configured the server to accept connections from the internet?
[01:33] <azertyuuu> ah now it works
[01:33] <Chousuke> iface: non-free ones are in multiverse.
[01:34] <xuniL_> test again now..
[01:34] <xuniL_> with 5900
[01:34] <xuniL_> still the same?
[01:34] <iface> i added multiverse to my respositories, but i cant find it ...
[01:35] <xuniL_> still not working chousuke?
[01:35] <Chousuke> xuniL_: still times ouy
[01:35] <Chousuke> out*
[01:35] <xuniL_> hmm...
[01:36] <xuniL_> how do i configruate the firewall? in console?
[01:36] <Chousuke> do you even have one?
[01:36] <Chousuke> maybe krfb is incompatible with regular VNC
[01:37] <xuniL_> do you have kdrc?
[01:37] <xuniL_> krdc
[01:37] <Chousuke> no. :P
[01:37] <Chousuke> I'm running OS X
[01:37] <xuniL_> ahhh...
[01:38] <Chousuke> I think I could compile it.
[01:38] <Chousuke> but that would take AGES
[01:38] <Chousuke> :P
[01:38] <Chousuke> because of the KDE dependencies.
[01:38] <xuniL_> i will try with real vnc viewer
[01:40] <Chousuke> xuniL_: you could use tightvncserver
[01:40] <xuniL_> okey will install that then
[01:41] <xuniL_> soon done
[01:41] <Chousuke> and it has a web server
[01:41] <Chousuke> use that.
[01:41] <xuniL_> okey
[01:42] <xuniL_> iam downloading rigth now
[01:42] <Chousuke> you'll need to read the manual page a bit though
[01:42] <xuniL_> nhaaa :D
[01:43] <azertyuuu> why are all the fonts in Kubuntu so big ???
[01:43] <xuniL_> getting wine now too...
[01:43] <azertyuuu> how can i change that
[01:44] <azertyuuu> btw, how can i get acces to windowsfiles in Konqi, it says that i have ho rights