[05:24] <aslan> I'm out
[05:24] <swiftnomad> Yes Im aware of it. =P root@swiftnomad-desktop:/home/swiftnomad# cd /ver/www
[05:24] <swiftnomad> bash: cd: /ver/www: No such file or directory
[05:24] <aslan> run w
[05:24] <kevinO> Talcite: is there a module that starts with 3c905 or something like that
[05:24] <aslan> it wil show you who's logged in
[05:24] <nickrud> swiftnomad: /var/www
[05:24] <shaffy> hmm, okay nickrud, but it seems as though there should still be an interface somewhere, cause i have to input some commands
[05:24] <Torahteen> Hi everyone. I'm trying to compile Hydra. When I type "make" it gets to a file and mentions that there is no "openssl/*" file. I used apt-get install openssl, which worked, but then there's no openssl-dev package. Any idea where I can get the openssl headers?
[05:24] <Numzie> hmmm says ur still in aslan so i cant delete your account =\
[05:24] <aslan> nope, I'm not connected
[05:24] <swiftnomad> ok now it opened. I'll take a look. thank you nickrud.
[05:25] <nickrud> shaffy: oh, they're sending you to a virtual console.  alt-ctl-f1 - f6
[05:25] <Talcite> kevin0: not loaded atleast
[05:25] <LM1> I absolutely love ubuntu!
[05:25] <LM1> :D
[05:25] <Talcite> kevin0: only 3c59x
[05:25] <aslan> Numzie: try this
[05:25] <LM1> :)
[05:25] <aslan> ps auxwww|grep aslan
[05:25] <aslan> then kill that process
[05:25] <kevinO> Talcite: did you load that module manually?
[05:25] <Torahteen> Can I be heard?
[05:25] <shaffy> nickrud,  so either f1 through f6?
[05:25] <Torahteen> BTW, do I just have to make sure I sign in with nickserv before chatting here?
[05:25] <Talcite> kevin0: I did load it myself, but I didn't check to see if it was already loaded
[05:26] <Numzie> aslan how i kill it?
[05:26] <nickrud> shaffy: exactly, there are 6 virtual consoles you can use. You can reach them at any time during your session
[05:26] <aslan> Numzie: look for the PID and then run kill <pid>
[05:26] <Numzie> nevermind im just going to shutdown for tonight anyway
[05:26] <Torahteen> Hi everyone. I'm trying to compile Hydra. When I type "make" it gets to a file and mentions that there is no "openssl/*" file. I used apt-get install openssl, which worked, but then there's no openssl-dev package. Any idea where I can get the openssl headers?
[05:26] <nickrud> shaffy: hangover from the pre gui days, and still useful
[05:26] <aslan> Torahteen: don't double post so fast
[05:26] <don_pucci> getting frustrated...mandriva or debian is looking better everyday
[05:27] <kevinO> talcite, i would try to remove the module, restart and see if it will load a module for it. I t usually does it automatically
[05:27] <nickrud> Torahteen: libssl-dev
[05:27] <Torahteen> aslan I'm sorry, I thought that the first time didn't get accepted... I apologize
[05:27] <Talcite> kevin0: sure
[05:27] <Torahteen> nickrud, Thanks!
[05:27] <nickrud> Torahteen: and if you want to pm, yes
[05:28] <kevinO> Talcite:  I have never loaded any drivers for anything in ubuntu, it just works :D
[05:28] <setite> anyone here have torrentflux
[05:28] <kevinO> well accept for my printer
[05:28] <Talcite> kevin0: lucky =P I load them every now and then
[05:28] <Talcite> kevin0: this system especially
[05:29] <kevinO> are you running feisty?
[05:29] <Talcite> kevin0: feisty server
[05:29] <setite> anyone here using torrentflux
[05:29] <kevinO> ahh
[05:30] <kevinO> setite just ask your question
[05:30] <setite> ok
[05:30] <setite> well im trying to get it working
[05:30] <setite> but i need the bittornado python script
[05:30] <setite> or scripts
[05:30] <kevinO> did you install it form the repos?
[05:30] <setite> there is 3
[05:30] <Talcite> kevin0: err... I think my system stopped posting
[05:30] <setite> yes
[05:30] <don_pucci> is there a way to tell what vid card and driver i am using?
[05:30] <rockets> Anybody here using Parallels on ubuntu?
[05:30] <rockets> I'm wondering how it compares to vmware
[05:30] <kevinO> talcite stopped posting??
[05:31] <Talcite> kevin0: yeah... pretty strange
[05:31] <kevinO> you mean the errors?
[05:31] <Talcite> kevin0: I'll see what a cmos reset does
[05:31] <stephans> does anyone have a suggestion on what program to use to make a DVD with picture slide shows?
[05:31] <kevinO> oh lol
[05:31] <Talcite> kevin0: no, I mean POST, power on self test =S
[05:31] <kevinO> :)
[05:32] <kevinO> setite, i dont know how to help you, I use ktorrent
[05:32] <kevinO> it just works
[05:33] <Grungebunny> kevinO you just discovered the best slogan for that software "it just works"
[05:33] <kevinO> i think ive used it twice in the past 5 minutes:)
[05:34] <don_pucci> is there a way to tell what vid card and driver i am using?
[05:34] <kevinO> weird
[05:35] <Stix> is anyone here running ubuntu in VmWare ?
[05:35] <Stix> im wondering if its possible to have the video card to show up properly in ubuntu..
[05:36] <don_pucci> i cannot believe that this mature version of ubuntu has a bug when switching users
[05:36] <kevinO> don_pucci: theres probably a better way to do it but run lspci
[05:36] <juxhi> hey guys
[05:36] <franky123> hey, i just did sudo apt-get install mysql-server php5 apache2 php5-mysql. but i still get the error "undefined call to function mysql_connect". how to fix?
[05:36] <don_pucci> ya...i just figured that out...thx kevin
[05:36] <kevinO> oops lspci | more
[05:37] <don_pucci> i mean..its version 7.04
[05:37] <don_pucci> not windows 98
[05:37] <szerox86> Stix: there should be some documentation with VMWare on how to install the 'vmware tools' to get better video performance -- sorry I can't help you more, i'm going completely off of really old memories
[05:37] <|brad|> lshw is pretty sweet too
[05:37] <shaffy> nickrud, i'm back :)  i didn't know how to get out of that console.  when i hit alt-ctl-f1-f6, does it log me completely out of gnome, or can i return to it and my open applications?
[05:37] <Stix> szerox86: thanks.
[05:37] <nickrud> shaffy: sorry, the gui is on alt-ctl-f7 :)
[05:38] <don_pucci> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/78470
[05:38] <don_pucci> sigh
[05:38] <shaffy> hehe okay, so it bring me back?
[05:38] <shaffy> *brings
[05:38] <nickrud> Stix: ubuntu comes with a driver for inside vmware, that's no problem.
[05:39] <don_pucci> is debian based on ubuntu?
[05:39] <shaffy> nickrud, thanks dude.  much appreciated.
[05:39] <kevinO> lol
[05:39] <Flannel> don_pucci: it is
[05:39] <UberGeekInc> ubuntu is based on debian
[05:39] <Flannel> don_pucci: er, sorry.  other way around.
[05:39] <Stix> nickrud: well something isn't right.. its coming up as 'vmware display adapter'
[05:39] <don_pucci> ok...
[05:39] <Stix> do you know how i can fix it ?
[05:39] <don_pucci> thx
[05:39] <don_pucci> maybe i will try that instead of this release
[05:39] <shaffy> nickrud: another question.  is the console just like a terminal window?
[05:40] <kevinO> don_pucci: it seems your bug is fixed in gutsy
[05:40] <UberGeekInc> shaffy: no, but close
[05:40] <zetsumei> got a question: do i use scp while i'm sshed into another machine
[05:40] <nickrud> Stix: that's what it is
[05:40] <UberGeekInc> zetsumei: to copy files, you can use scp yes
[05:40] <don_pucci> kevin...ya...i have to wait until then
[05:40] <don_pucci> that is so stupid
[05:40] <Talcite> kevin0: it loaded 3c59x, same as before =/
[05:40] <Stix> ok, but is it possible to use ATI drivers in there ? otherwise i can't try beryl or compiz fusion..
[05:40] <Talcite> kevin0: and same result, flag errors
[05:40] <nickrud> shaffy: for most purposes, yes. No cut and paste (but if you install gpm you can cut and paste between terminals)
[05:40] <kevinO> don_pucci: also yould be downloading for a few days if you want debian
[05:41] <don_pucci> what do u mean kevin
[05:41] <shaffy> UberGeekInc: so, for a noob, it would be fair to say there are equal?  :)
[05:41] <nickrud> shaffy: gnome terminal is a 'terminal-emulator' by the way :)
[05:41] <kevinO> Talcite i dont know then :/
[05:41] <UberGeekInc> kevin0: netinst will only install what you need - you can do the same in ubuntu as well
[05:41] <Talcite> kevin0: aww, thanks anyways =D
[05:41] <kevinO> don_pucci: debian comes on 4 dvd's
[05:41] <brenbo> hello
[05:41] <kevinO> UberGeekInc: thanks for the info
[05:41] <franky123> hey, i just did sudo apt-get install mysql-server php5 apache2 php5-mysql. but i still get the error "undefined call to function mysql_connect". how to fix?
[05:42] <UberGeekInc> shaffy: for now, sure - but look for the differences later on
[05:42] <shaffy> nickrud: okay.  so the real deal is the console, not the gnome terminal.  thanks :)
[05:42] <nickrud> Stix: no, no ati & beryl in vmware
[05:42] <Grungebunny> why would you need to emulate the terminal in ubuntu?
[05:42] <Flannel> kevinO: You only need the first CD to install though.
[05:42] <Stix> nickrud: ok :(
[05:42] <shaffy> UberGeekInc:  thanks bro.  much appreciated.
[05:42] <brenbo>
[05:42] <don_pucci> fine...then i will use mandriva or opensuse
[05:42] <UberGeekInc> franky123: configure mysql-server
[05:42] <nickrud> !cn
[05:42] <ubotu> For Ubuntu help in Chinese  #ubuntu-cn  #ubuntu-tw   #ubuntu-hk
[05:43] <brenbo> o thanks
[05:43] <zetsumei> !jp
[05:43] <ubotu>  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp
[05:43] <UberGeekInc> Grungebunny: traditionally, you can admin everything and anything through the terminal
[05:43] <Stix> can someone tell me how to remove the MBR from a disk? i had XP on this HD before and when i installed ubuntu on it it said it couldn't load the OS.
[05:43] <kevinO> don_pucci:  UberGeekInc just said you only need the first dvd
[05:43] <nickrud>  gives it away :)
[05:43] <shaffy> to anyone who can help me:  i've been getting a 4 min hang when i log onto my desktop followed by an error msg "There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon."  any ideas anyone?
[05:43] <don_pucci> ya..i am reading on their site now...
[05:43] <BUMBACL0T> !ph
[05:43] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[05:43] <kevinO> don_pucci: ok good luck :)
[05:43] <zetsumei> do i use SCP WHILE i'm connected via ssh or what
[05:43] <don_pucci> thx...i guess
[05:44] <nickrud> zetsumei: no, it starts a fresh ssh session
[05:44] <supercool330> Can anyone help me with an ubuntu problem?
[05:44] <jmak642> supercool330: what you got?
[05:44] <don_pucci> it comes out in october right?
[05:44] <jmak642> don_pucci: something like the 18th i think was the date
[05:44] <UberGeekInc> kevin0: there is actually a 50 mb (?) image you can use to start the netinst image - you have to search through the ubuntu sites for it though (debian as well)
[05:44] <kevinO> Does anyone know if its possible Talcite's system is loading the wrond drivers for his nic card?
[05:44] <supercool330> So I loaded Ubuntu FF onto the second hd of my laptop worked fine but then when I try to boot it gets stuck on the third little bar thing
[05:44] <franky123> ubergeekinc: what should i change?
[05:44] <UberGeekInc> don_pucci: yup
[05:45] <zetsumei> i was just in a ssh session though
[05:45] <jmak642> supercool330: does the livecd start?
[05:45] <don_pucci> grr...i dont want to wait until then to be able to switch users
[05:45] <don_pucci> lol
[05:45] <nicholaspaul> I cant get to my wifi router :( I try sudo dhclient3 but it says No DHCPOFFERS received. What can i try next?
[05:45] <Stix> can someone tell me how to remove the MBR from a disk? i had XP on this HD before and when i installed ubuntu on it it said it couldn't load the OS.
[05:45] <perseus> guys i want to know which version of ubuntu is suitable for a linux new corner,, ubuntu,,kubuntu,,etc
[05:45] <kevinO> Talcite do you have a live cd?
[05:45] <UberGeekInc> franky123: install mysql-server, then go to /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/ (?) to read the readme to give you instructions - look for the debian readme
[05:45] <Talcite> kevin0: I do, should I give it a try?
[05:45] <thedonvaughn> perseus: all of 'em
[05:45] <supercool330> Havent tried that I used the Alternate text installer I have a fried who had problems with the live CD installation
[05:45] <zetsumei> !fluxbuntu give perseus
[05:45] <DARKGuy> Hey guys, how do I configure compiz-fusion to rotate the cube with the middle mouse button like Beryl used to do? I've asked in #ubuntu-effects and got no replies as of now, so sorry for asking in here :P
[05:46] <thedonvaughn> perseus: i'd recommend ubuntu tho
[05:46] <kevinO> yeah, i would and see if you can use it in there
[05:46] <daedalus__> ihello
[05:46] <jmak642> supercool330: try to start the computer with the livecd
[05:46] <supercool330> K it will take a bit to download and burn
[05:46] <kevinO> talcite, if you can then thats probably whats wrong..
[05:46] <daedalus__> if i keep getting this kind  of errors when executing a make command, what can i do to avoid them: /usr/include/linux/wireless.h:646: error: __s32 does not name a type
[05:46] <don_pucci> can i download gutsy unstable now?
[05:46] <evri2> how can i change the output filename on wget?
[05:46] <daedalus__> i think i might be missing something
[05:46] <perseus> aha
[05:46] <kevinO> don_pucci: yes
[05:46] <Talcite> kevin0: sure, let me give it a try
[05:47] <zetsumei> ubuntu, fluxbuntu is awesome lol
[05:47] <kevinO> don_pucci: im using right now
[05:47] <jmak642> supercool330: oh i figured you had it it.  i'm not pro enough to help you beyond basic "my usb key doesnt work"
[05:47] <don_pucci> oh...sweet
[05:47] <shaffy> to anyone who can help me:  i've been getting a 4 min hang when i log onto my desktop followed by an error msg "There was an error starting the GNOME Settings Daemon."  any ideas anyone?
[05:47] <don_pucci> i dont see it on download mirrors
[05:47] <UberGeekInc> franky123: `zless /usr/share/doc/mysql-server-5.0/README.Debian.gz`
[05:47] <supercool330> if it matters I am using the amd64 version
[05:47] <jmdc> does anyone know of a package for info files for the c standard library?
[05:47] <jmak642> supercool330: even more out of my league
[05:47] <kevinO> don_pucci: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/gutsy/tribe-5/
[05:48] <nicholaspaul> Can someone help me with DHCP and wifi? dhclient3 doesnt get an IP :(
[05:48] <Grungebunny> shaffy no idea but it looks like it could be multiple reasons.. check this http://www.google.com/search?q=There+was+an+error+starting+the+GNOME+Settings+Daemon&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
[05:48] <jmak642> ok, i'm not likin this ksirc either, anyone got recommendations for an irc client?
[05:48] <don_pucci> thx kevin
[05:48] <don_pucci> how do u find it?
[05:48] <jmdc> nevermind, I just find glibc-doc
[05:48] <nicholaspaul> jmak642:  irssi Rocks
[05:48] <kevinO> don_pucci: google
[05:49] <don_pucci> no..i mean...how do u like it
[05:49] <supercool330> anyone know what the startup is dooing at this point so I have an idea what it is dooing
[05:49] <daedalus__> an error like this
[05:49] <daedalus__> make: *** [pcap2air.o]  Error 1
[05:49] <shaffy> Grungebunny: thanks.  i've been scouring google for a while now.  :)  will just have to keep looking.
[05:50] <kevinO> don_pucci: its seems pretty stable at this point, there are alot of updates almost everymorning, but that is to be expected
[05:50] <don_pucci> nice..
[05:50] <kevinO> don_pucci: i owuldnt go back to feist if thats what your askin
[05:50] <don_pucci> ya
[05:50] <don_pucci> that is what i am askin
[05:50] <don_pucci> lol
[05:50] <don_pucci> my other boxes work fine
[05:50] <don_pucci> on ubuntu
[05:50] <don_pucci> this lappy has the user issue
[05:50] <UberGeekInc> supercool330: do a `dmesg | less`
[05:51] <supercool330> what?
[05:51] <jmak642> what irc clients should i try?
[05:51] <jmak642> i have ksirc, not diggin it
[05:51] <nicholaspaul> jmak642:  irssi
[05:51] <kevinO> jmak i use xirc and pidgin
[05:51] <don_pucci> jmak...not xchat...i am very unimpressed with it
[05:51] <UberGeekInc> jmak642: bitchx for console and xchat for gnome
[05:51] <joejaxx> jmak642: irssi is amazing
[05:51] <nicholaspaul> sright joejaxx
[05:52] <niru> hello joejaxx
[05:52] <don_pucci> xchat is not very good imo
[05:52] <joejaxx> hello niru
[05:52] <||> irssi + screen = win
[05:52] <joejaxx> ||: :D
[05:52] <don_pucci> cant really configure very much
[05:52] <nicholaspaul> And irssi is even better with screen
[05:52] <||> hey joejaxx
[05:52] <jmak642> don_pucci: it must be better than ksirc
[05:52] <kevinO> i like pidgin cause i can have everything in one program
[05:52] <don_pucci> no idea
[05:52] <nickrud> screen addicts , pfft ;)
[05:52] <don_pucci> never used ksirc
[05:52] <joejaxx> ||: 23:52 Irssi uptime: 245d 13h 2m 18s :D
[05:52] <jmak642> !info screen
[05:52] <ubotu> screen: a terminal multiplexor with VT100/ANSI terminal emulation. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0.3-0.2ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 571 kB, installed size 980 kB
[05:52] <don_pucci> i think mirc for win is best client ever
[05:53] <don_pucci> too bad there is no linux port
[05:53] <kevinO> hehe
[05:53] <thedonvaughn> don_pucci: ew
[05:53] <maxd> #compiz-fusion
[05:53] <jmak642> don_pucci: i dont have windows
[05:53] <||> kevinO: you can use bitlbee as a gateway to talk to the msn / icq / yahoo protocol etc in irc ... it's a pseudo-ircd
[05:53] <Talcite> kevin0: this is VERY strange, the liveCD works fine with it!
[05:53] <don_pucci> lol
[05:53] <don_pucci> i know that
[05:53] <jmak642> i am 100% ubuntu
[05:53] <don_pucci> i said too bad
[05:53] <Talcite> kevin0: it's also using the 3c59x module
[05:54] <don_pucci> im still looking for a good irc client
[05:54] <kevinO> Talcite, your system is loading the wrong module then
[05:54] <kevinO> err
[05:54] <jmak642> ok, gonna try this irssi
[05:54] <kevinO> maybe its setup differently
[05:54] <Talcite> kevin0: it's an edgy liveCD if anything
[05:54] <zetsumei> how do i install font for openbox
[05:54] <Talcite> kevin0: not 2.6.16
[05:54] <Talcite> kevin0: err the live CD is 2.6.17
[05:55] <kevinO> talcite i suggest you ask one of the other guys here, they might be able to help you out more, maybe breunig or jrib
[05:55] <kevinO> i havent seen them in a while though
[05:56] <supercool330> How do I do a dmesg|less in grub?
[05:56] <kevinO> Talcite: at least you know it can work :)
[05:57] <niru> joejaxx, i have usb that is bootable
[05:57] <zetsumei> how do i install font for openbox
[05:57] <UberGeekInc> supercool330: ah sorry - wasn't following the thread
[05:57] <niru> and it works fine in my system
[05:57] <Talcite> kevin0: yeah, atleast I know it works =D
[05:57] <Talcite> kevin0: no problem =D
[05:57] <Talcite> kevin0: thanks for all your help =D
[05:57] <niru> but in other systems it shows error as unablt to retrieve preconfgiurtion file
[05:58] <kevinO> no problem Talcite
[05:58] <niru> joejaxx, many i know y
[05:58] <don_pucci> how can u get list of users on the sidebar with xchat ffs
[05:58] <ganoush> can i emulate ubuntu in windows or vice versa?
[05:58] <supercool330> no problem
[05:58] <joejaxx> niru: what disc are we talking about?
[05:59] <UberGeekInc> supercool330: what are you seeing at the grub prompt?
[05:59] <explosiveFerret> hello everyone
[05:59] <niru> joejaxx, usb
[05:59] <supercool330> hmm strange I added the debug flag to my grub boo  comands and it loaded
[05:59] <joejaxx> ganoush: what do you mean by emulate
[05:59] <joejaxx> ganoush: like vmware?
[05:59] <daedalus__> whats simple-replay?
[05:59] <joejaxx> niru: no i mean what are you trying to load off of the usb
[05:59] <supercool330> or not now the bar on the startup screen finished but all I see is a black screen
[05:59] <niru> joejaxx, I have loaded os for installing through usb
[05:59] <ganoush> joejaxx: depends what vmware does
[06:00] <niru> joejaxx, which works very well in my systme
[06:00] <UberGeekInc> supercool330: could it be your monitor incorrectly set?  do you know if the system booted or not?
[06:00] <ganoush> i only have 1 computer and am running dual boot
[06:00] <niru> joejaxx, same usb when i take to another machine it shows unable to retrieve the.seed file
[06:00] <ganoush> it would be nice not to have to boot into ubuntu
[06:00] <ganoush> i'm just testing out apache/php jetty...
[06:00] <ganoush> internal stufff
[06:00] <explosiveFerret> I am looking for a way to run windows xp in ubuntu.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
[06:00] <joejaxx> ganoush: then you want vmware
[06:01] <niru> joejaxx, which if I pass manually through console mode ie find hd-media/,preseed_command hd-media
[06:01] <niru> everything goes well
[06:01] <ganoush> is vmware free?
[06:01] <don_pucci> hmmm
[06:01] <Pelo> ganoush, vmware allows to run a virtual computer inside a host os and have anothr os instaled on it,   you might want to start with wine wich allows you to run window applications in linux as if they were native
[06:01] <joejaxx> ganoush: yes http://www.vmware.com/download/server/
[06:01] <admin8tor> some vmware is free, the better ones are $$
[06:01] <don_pucci> turns out i am using xchat gnome...which is different that xchagt
[06:01] <don_pucci> no idea why
[06:01] <supercool330> No I am not sure if the OS booted and I', almost sure I havent set my monitor right
[06:02] <ganoush> so if i want to run ubuntu from windows i get the server for windows?
[06:02] <UberGeekInc> supercool330: do you know how to get into the grub edit menu?
[06:02] <don_pucci> brb
[06:02] <joejaxx> niru: ohhh you are talking about the debian installer
[06:02] <explosiveFerret> will vmware allow me to run windows, and thus office, through Ubuntu?
[06:02] <supercool330> I an gyessing that it is a video problem considering I can boot the comand line ust fine
[06:02] <niru> joejaxx, yes
[06:02] <Pelo> explosiveFerret, yes
[06:02] <joejaxx> niru: are those d-i directives in the preseed file?
[06:02] <Pelo> supercool330, what video card ?
[06:02] <niru> joejaxx, whcih d-i directives
[06:03] <supercool330> yes I know how to get into the grub edit menu that is how I turned debug on, in addition when I turned it off again it gets stuck at the third bar
[06:03] <explosiveFerret> cool thanks Pelo
[06:03] <supercool330> Gota check on video card give me a min
[06:03] <joejaxx> niru: hold on lets go to debian cutom
[06:03] <joejaxx> custom*
[06:03] <UberGeekInc> supercool330: ah - then thats easier.  if you can boot to cmd line then your issue is with config X
[06:03] <UberGeekInc> supercool330: do this `less /var/log/Xorg.0.log`
[06:03] <niru> joejaxx, ok
[06:04] <supercool330> Well the only way I can boot to comand line is with the recovery mode for ubuntu is that ok
[06:05] <UberGeekInc> supercool330: you can grep -i for error
[06:05] <explosiveFerret> he Pelo do you have any suggestions about what VMwhare I should use?
[06:05] <supercool330> grep -i?
[06:06] <UberGeekInc> supercool330: maybe - when you boot to a blank screen, can you do a [ctrl] [alt] [f3]  (for example)?
[06:06] <Pelo> explosiveFerret,  from the add/remove menu, install vmware-server you'll need to get a free registration from the vmware site , you'll get the exact info during the installation
[06:06] <don_pucci> ahhh...much better
[06:06] <supercool330> now I'm having issues booting the recovery thing give me a moment
[06:06] <explosiveFerret> NICE!!!
[06:06] <UberGeekInc> supercool330:  `cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i error`
[06:06] <kevinO> don_pucci: xchat gnome is no good
[06:07] <don_pucci> no kidding
[06:07] <don_pucci> lol
[06:07] <kevinO> :)
[06:07] <Pelo> kevinO,  we know , which is hy most of us use xchat
[06:07] <ozozo> don_pucci, the freedom to use a program and to copy to modify it it and to give it so that you think that it is good, is better than the others
[06:07] <explosiveFerret> ok one last question guys.  I am starting to play with web development and was wondering if anyone could suggest a solid WYSWYG development environment?
[06:07] <pacmanfan> so i'm trying to install gst-plugins, and on ./configure it's saying "checking for gstreamer-0.8 >= <IP_ADDRESS>... configure: error: no GStreamer found"
[06:07] <UberGeekInc> explosiveFerret: IDE - emacs - web framework - rails
[06:07] <pacmanfan> yet i have both gstreamer 0.8 and 0.10 installed...
[06:07] <don_pucci> ozozoz..ok
[06:07] <don_pucci> :|
[06:08] <kevinO> Pelo: OK thank you for the information
[06:08] <Pelo> pacmanfan, go in synaptic remove all the gstreamer 8 and install all the gstreamer0.10
[06:08] <supercool330> It says the directory doesn't exist
[06:09] <pacmanfan> Pelo, i only installed gstreamer 8 AFTER i got the error with just gstreamer 0.10
[06:09] <Pelo> supercool330, what is your video card please and also what architecture of ubuntu are you using ( amd64 , x86, ppc ?)
[06:09] <Pelo> pacmanfan, didyou install ALL the gstreamer0.10 ?
[06:09] <supercool330> amd64 on my amd turion 64 dual core laptop
[06:09] <pacmanfan> i think so...
[06:10] <pacmanfan> i just downloaded the source and did ./configure > make > make install
[06:10] <UberGeekInc> supercool330: lets go back to grub - what is your kernel options?
[06:10] <pacmanfan> oh, and took care of the dependencies
[06:10] <Pelo> pacmanfan, open synaptic do  a search for gstreamer and see
[06:10] <kevinO> night yall
[06:10] <UberGeekInc> supercool330: did you install via the livecd?
[06:10] <don_pucci> Ferret....depends on what browser you are developing for
[06:10] <explosiveFerret>  don_pucci at the moment just firefox
[06:10] <supercool330> Video card is Nvidida GeForce Go 6150
[06:10] <don_pucci> free or pay?
[06:11] <supercool330> I installed with the text cd I am curently downloading the live cd to test that (it will take a little whilte)
[06:11] <Pelo> supercool330, video card ati or nvidia ?   you would do better to install  x86   , amd 64 doesn'T have drivers for all the ati and nvidia cards and some are impossible to get working
[06:11] <explosiveFerret> free, or else I would go dreamweaver
[06:11] <supercool330> DAMN I just deleted teh x86 iso
[06:11] <Pelo> supercool330,  and you won'T be able to use the live cd, you will absolutely need the alternate install one
[06:11] <don_pucci> um...try bluefish
[06:11] <don_pucci> or quanta?
[06:12] <explosiveFerret> don_pucci: thanks, I will look into those
[06:12] <don_pucci> np..good luck
[06:12] <jmak642> ok, i think i'm going to go with this xchat, not the gnome one though
[06:12] <supercool330> I'll try using the x86 and see if that helps again it will take a while to download any other ideas to try while it is working on that
[06:12] <don_pucci> jmak..ya..i just switched too
[06:12] <Pelo> jmak642, just goto add/remove and search for xchat,  click and enjoy
[06:12] <don_pucci> way better
[06:13] <pacmanfan> hmm
[06:13] <explosiveFerret> If I am trying to run windows on linux with VMware... do I need to player and the server or just the player?
[06:13] <UberGeekInc> supercool330: yes, boot to the blank screen, then do the [ctrl] [alt] [f2]  key combination.  do you end up at the command prompt?
[06:13] <Pelo> supercool330, take a walk, go see a movie,  have a late supper,  cuddle with a love one, cuddle with a pet (in the absence of a love one)
[06:13] <pacmanfan> Pelo, it shows a couple of my gst-plugins packages, but doesn't show gstreamer
[06:13] <Pelo> explosiveFerret,  jsut the server
[06:14] <don_pucci> ferret...u can use either...but the server is good...
[06:14] <phixnay> I'm trying to upgrade to gutsy, but upgrade-manager -d doesn't see it :(
[06:14] <supercool330> any opinions on the fastet download miror
[06:14] <explosiveFerret> what is the difference between the player and the server?
[06:14] <dmc68> howdy gang. quick install question. Going to DUAL BOOT XP and Ubuntu. Which do i install first?
[06:14] <tarelerulz> How would you run program that is installed on other Linux partition(ubuntu on small drive )  for say ubuntu on a biger drive
[06:14] <Flannel> phixnay: #ubuntu+1 for gutsy questions, thanks.
[06:14] <Flannel> dmc68: either.  But easier with windows first
[06:14] <Pelo> pacmanfan, did you enable all the repos ? are you sure you have the correct spelling ?
[06:14] <don_pucci> install windows first
[06:14] <don_pucci> waaaaaaaayyyyyyy easier
[06:14] <dmc68> ok thanx flannel that is what i thought
[06:14] <phixnay> Flannel: since I don't have gutsy yet, I think it's a feisty question
[06:14] <UberGeekInc> supercool330: use the netselect command to get the fastest mirror
[06:15] <supercool330> trust me their alocation is what is limiting the downlaod (I have goten speeds north of 2 megs/sec before)
[06:15] <tarelerulz> DMC68  , You can have windows on other second hard drive it you like I did that
[06:15] <Pelo> supercool330,  torrents
[06:15] <pacmanfan> Pelo, yep and yep
[06:15] <don_pucci> dmc68...why would update manager show u a pre-release
[06:15] <Flannel> phixnay: no, it's a gutsy question.  You'll need to make sure you have feisty-proposed enabled, and some other stuff, I dont know the details.  (Its a development version question because that upgrade isn't official yet)
[06:16] <Flannel> don_pucci: Because you pass it the -d argument
[06:16] <Pelo> pacmanfan,  that's all I have
[06:16] <pacmanfan> Pelo, but what i don't get is why gst-plugins doesn't recognize that i have gstreamer installed...
[06:16] <don_pucci> didnt see that..sorry
[06:16] <explosiveFerret> Pelo: what is the main difference between vm player and server?
[06:16] <Pelo> pacmanfan, how are you installing gst-pluggins ?
[06:16] <pacmanfan> the gst-good-plugins and gst-bad-plugins packages recognize it fine... just not gst-plugins
[06:16] <phixnay> Flannel: ok, I see what you meen
[06:16] <phixnay> thanks
[06:16] <pacmanfan> ./configure is where it fails
[06:17] <pacmanfan> trying to build from source
[06:17] <haseo> with time my system has become like more slow, and some times it makes littles stops, how can i mantain my system?? or waht can i do?
[06:17] <Pelo> explosiveFerret, with player you need a ready made virtual machine , with server you can make your own
[06:17] <alex_mayorga> !bluetooth
[06:17] <ubotu> For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup
[06:17] <Pelo> pacmanfan, when buiding from source you very often need to install the -dev package of the dependency
[06:18] <pacmanfan> oooh
[06:18] <Pelo> pacmanfan, I did say "ALL" the gstreamer0.10 packages
[06:18] <pacmanfan> i thought there was only one...
[06:18] <pacmanfan> i just got the latest version from here: http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/src/gstreamer/
[06:18] <Pelo> pacmanfan, there are about a dozen gstreamer0.10 packages
[06:19] <Pelo> pacmanfan, use synaptic
[06:19] <pacmanfan> meh
[06:19] <explosiveFerret> Pelo: ack, it says server is commercial.  Is it free?
[06:20] <Pelo> explosiveFerret, it is free, but you need to register( for free) on the vmware site to get the S/N
[06:20] <BernieMac> !c++
[06:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about c++ - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:20] <explosiveFerret> spiffy
[06:20] <explosiveFerret> thx
[06:20] <abooker> Anyone with a knowledge of init around?
[06:20] <don_pucci> server and player are free
[06:20] <don_pucci> player cannot make vm's
[06:20] <Pelo> abooker,  it is better to ask a specific question, ppl may not consider themselves expert but might know the answer to your question
[06:20] <don_pucci> server has no sound support
[06:21] <pacmanfan> Pelo, in Synaptic i should it show All Available Applications, right?
[06:21] <explosiveFerret> I know some c+++ what do u need?
[06:21] <don_pucci> sorry
[06:21] <abooker> specifically anyone who can tell me how to get it to drop references to / after pivot_root
[06:21] <don_pucci> doing too many things
[06:21] <Pelo> pacmanfan, just use the search feature
[06:21] <pacmanfan> for "gstreamer"
[06:21] <Tsukasa> can someone please help me get ubuntu installed on my raid0 array? it has two ntfs partitions, one of which i want to keep the other i dont care
[06:21] <Pelo> pacmanfan, no for "big mac"
[06:21] <tripppy> when is 7.10 out?
[06:21] <macOSuX> hiiiiiii
[06:22] <don_pucci> october 18th i think
[06:22] <abooker> pelo, I'm a two finger typist, I was typing the second as you replied. :)
[06:22] <macOSuX> is 7.10 gonna have dmraid installer in it?
[06:22] <explosiveFerret> thanks for your help guys. :-D im out for the night while things DL and install
[06:22] <don_pucci> nite
[06:22] <Pelo> abooker, ;-)
[06:23] <arooni_> folks what is the equivalent control + alt + delete functoinality in linux (end a unresponsive app or process)
[06:23] <Pelo> arooni_, sudo killall -9 processname
[06:23] <abooker> pelo, so you gonna give me a pointer for being a good boy and asking specifically?
[06:23] <pacmanfan> Pelo, it finds GStreamer extra plugins, GStreamer ffmpeg video plugin, GStreamer pipeline editor, GStreamer pipeline runner, Movie Player, GStreamer plugin inspector, GStreamer plugins for AAC,etc..., GSTreamer plugins for MMS etc...,   and that's it!
[06:23] <macOSuX> arooni_:  kil procesS_id
[06:23] <arooni_> no GUI for this?
[06:23] <UberGeekInc> arooni_: will reboot on console, this can be disabled of course
[06:23] <Pelo> abooker, I don'T know the answer to your quesiton, sorry
[06:24] <don_pucci> nite all
[06:24] <Pelo> pacmanfan, are  you in synaptic or in add/remove ?
[06:24] <abooker> pelo know where I might look, or have better luck finding someone?
[06:24] <pacmanfan> i thought they were the same :o
[06:24] <macOSuX> is 7.10 gonna have dmraid installer in it?
[06:24] <pacmanfan> my bad!
[06:24] <Pelo> abooker,  you can try searching in the forum  www.ubuntuforums.org or since this seems pretty generic you can also try asking in ##linux
[06:25] <abooker> It's not generic.  Telinit -u is how I'd normally do it, but not on 7.10
[06:25] <Pelo> pacmanfan,  both are frontends for apt-get but add/remove only shows applications while synaptic shows all available packages including libs and drivers
[06:25] <abooker> It may be bound up in upstart.
[06:26] <Pelo> abooker,  I mean a generic linux quesiton as in not distro specific
[06:26] <Talcite> hey guys, when did the ubuntu document storage go down?
[06:26] <pacmanfan> sweet
[06:26] <abooker> pelo It's not generic.  Telinit -u is how I'd normally do it, but not on 7.10
[06:27] <daedalus__> when trying to execute the make command for the airbase set of wireless tools, among others, i get this error: /usr/include/linux/wireless.h:941: error: __u32 does not name a type. i read in a forum that it was something related to the libnl libraries, i did an apt-get, everything went fine, but i still cant compile it, getting the same errors.... any ideas?
[06:27] <Pelo> abooker, ic, well I don'T but I'll beleive you, you seem to know more about it then I do ,  the forum then
[06:27] <Talcite> !ssh
[06:27] <ubotu> SSH is the Secure SHell protocol. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto for usage. Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows; it can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[06:27] <abooker> pelo cheers, I'll go have a firtle.
[06:27] <jmak642> arooni_, you can use ctrl + alt + backspace to restart your window manager
[06:27] <Talcite> blah. I need a better SSH tutorial
[06:28] <Pelo> daedalus__, also add the related -dev package if there is one
[06:28] <Talcite> there was a very good one at the UDSF, but it seems to have gone down... does anyone know of another?
[06:28] <MasterShrek> my ssh client always takes forever to connect...only in ubuntu and i dont know why
[06:28] <abooker> what do you need to know talcite?
[06:28] <Talcite> abooker: just how to set it up VERY securely
[06:28] <daedalus__> Pelo: thats what i did, sorry, apt-get install libnl-dev
[06:28] <Talcite> abooker: it has to face outside, so I can't risk anything
[06:29] <Talcite> abooker: and it needs a static address, so the risk is increased even more =/
[06:29] <Pelo> daedalus__, try apt-cache search libnl see if there are other packages that fit that might be usefull
[06:29] <Talcite> abooker: I'm already restricting the IP range and using secure trust relationships, but still
[06:29] <pvl1> i cant get ubuntu to recrod from my microphone
[06:30] <Steil> is there gui tool to setup compiz features in feisty?
[06:30] <abooker> talcite I think you may be fixating. :)  I've run and setup for large and small corporations, sshd facing the world
[06:30] <Poul|Raider> how do i configure so i can use all the buttons on my mouse, the 2 on the side works like the 2 normal(left and right) click atm
[06:30] <daedalus__> Pelo: is there a command to get all the libraries for ubuntu?
[06:30] <Talcite> abooker: hmm and what kind of security did you use?
[06:30] <Pelo> daedalus__,  I see a libnl1-pre6  package that could possibly be what you need
[06:30] <abooker> What specifically are you hoping to setup?
[06:30] <Pelo> daedalus__, sudo apt-cache search lib ?
[06:30] <pacmanfan> Pelo: i installed EVERYTHING to do with gstreamer via Synaptics, but to no avail...
[06:31] <Talcite> abooker: this server will contain all my back ups. Basically an over-glorified file server =P
[06:31] <FusionMan> Are there any DC clients other than dcqt dcgui ?
[06:31] <pacmanfan> i'm trying to install Mesk, and on ./configure it still says configure: error: No Gstreamer audio format plugins found
[06:31] <Pelo> daedalus__,  you might want to try with synaptic , the search fueature might yeald more detailed results
[06:31] <Talcite> abooker: It'll be able to transfer files from inside to an outside location
[06:31] <abooker> ranges, straight /etc/passwd to RSA ID's to knocks and iptables filters
[06:31] <Pelo> pacmanfan, i'm out of options
[06:31] <shaffy> does xubuntu or kubuntu use KDE?
[06:31] <pacmanfan> alrighty.. thanks
[06:31] <Pelo> pacmanfan, did you enable multiverse and backport ?
[06:32] <Talcite> abooker: RSA IDs? how do I set those up? knocks too
[06:32] <Scunizi> shaffy: kubuntu uses KDE
[06:32] <abooker> talcite like sftp?  Where do you see the bigest weakness?
[06:32] <FusionMan> for p2p clients, what are DC+ options?
[06:32] <Pelo> pacmanfan, did you check in synaptic to see if there was a gts-pluggins package ?
[06:32] <shaffy> Scunizi: does xubuntu still use gnome?
[06:32] <LiquidXTC> anyone here fluent with airmon-ng, some of the issues, and could give me a hand??
[06:32] <Talcite> abooker: well it'd have to be sftp for sure. However, even with a few compromised files I don't see too much of a problem, it's really people having root access to the system that I'm most worried about
[06:32] <Scunizi> shaffy, xubuntu uses xfce
[06:32] <KurdishSniper> guys which Dock is the bst to have on ur desk top?
[06:33] <pacmanfan> Pelo, multiverse is enabled, i don't see the backport option
[06:33] <abooker> talcite, not within ssh. :)  security is usually layered, there's nothing in an ssh faq that'll go through that, it's more general security
[06:33] <Pelo> LiquidXTC, it is better to ask a specific quesiton,  ppl who are not experts might know the answer anyway
[06:33] <macOSuX> wd to RSA ID's to knocks and iptables filters
[06:33] <macOSuX> 	<Pelo>	pacmanfan, i'm out of options
[06:33] <macOSuX> 	<shaffy>	does xubuntu or kubuntu use KDE?
[06:33] <Pelo> pacmanfan,  3rd tab
[06:33] <Talcite> abooker: a few other people will have access to the system, so I'm going to make them user accounts and restrict their access to a few folders
[06:33] <macOSuX> 	<pacmanfan>	alrighty.. thanks
[06:33] <macOSuX> 	<Pelo>	pacmanfan, did you enable multiverse and backport ?
[06:33] <macOSuX> 	<Talcite>	abooker: RSA IDs? how do I set those up? knocks too
[06:33] <macOSuX> 	<Scunizi>	shaffy: kubuntu uses KDE
[06:33] <macOSuX> 	<abooker>	talcite like sftp? Where do you see the bigest weakness?
[06:33] <macOSuX> 	<FusionMan>	for p2p clients, what are DC+ options?
[06:33] <Scunizi> shaffy: do you want gnome?  You can run several WM's on one machine.
[06:33] <macOSuX> 	<Pelo>	pacmanfan, did you check in synaptic to see if there was a gts-pluggins package ?
[06:33] <LiquidXTC> Thanx Pelo.. I will try to make it short
[06:33] <macOSuX> 	<shaffy>	Scunizi: does xubuntu still use gnome?
[06:33] <macOSuX> 	<LiquidXTC>	anyone here fluent with airmon-ng, some of the issues, and could give me a hand??
[06:33] <macOSuX> 	<Talcite>	abooker: well it'd have to be sftp for sure. However, even with a few compromised files I don't see too much of a problem, it's really people having root access to the system that I'm most worried about
[06:33] <macOSuX> 	<Scunizi>	shaffy, xubuntu uses xfce
[06:33] <macOSuX> 	<KurdishSniper>	guys which Dock is the bst to have on ur desk top?
[06:33] <Pelo> !ops | macOSuX
[06:33] <ubotu> macOSuX: Help! Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, Burgundavia, Seveas, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok or Pici
[06:33] <macOSuX> 	<pacmanfan>	Pelo, multiverse is enabled, i don
    As far as I can see DC-QT and DC-GUI
[06:34] <LiquidXTC> Thanx Pelo.. I will try to make it short
[06:34] <MasterShrek> !xubuntu | pacmanfan
[06:34] <ubotu> pacmanfan: xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of Gnome. For more info, see http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". | For support, see #xubuntu | See also: !ubuntu and !xubuntu-channels
[06:34] <Talcite> abooker: I see... well where can I read up on security?
[06:34] <MasterShrek> !backports | pacmanfan
[06:34] <ubotu> pacmanfan: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging
[06:34] <macOSuX> polo
[06:34] <MasterShrek> lol
[06:34] <Talcite> abooker: it's gotta be done sooner or later
[06:34] <shaffy> Scunizi: i can just install them from the synaptics package manager, correct?
[06:34] <pibe86> hello, when is the next release for ubuntu?
[06:35] <CoasterMaster> !gutsy | pibe86
[06:35] <Pelo> pibe86, mid october
[06:35] <MasterShrek> sometime in october im assuming pibe86
[06:35] <CoasterMaster> pibe86, October 18, 2007
[06:35] <FusionMan> pib86 you can get gutsy now to test, but it was buggy when I tried.  ALthough some drivers were updated.
[06:35] <ubotu> pibe86: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[06:35] <Steil> is there gui tool to setup compiz features in feisty?
[06:35] <abooker> talcite well now you're asking.
[06:35] <daedalus__> Pelo: i tried that, and i have that package/ibraries installed... any other ideas or hints you might have?
[06:35] <abooker> talcite, give me a min, I'll see if I can find a thread.
[06:36] <pibe86> i heard about ubuntu 8, is it truth ?
[06:36] <Pelo> Steil,  search in synaptic for compiz  I thnk it 's calle compiz-config
[06:36] <MasterShrek> pibe86, ubuntu 8.xx will be out in 2008
[06:36] <MasterShrek> the first number in the release is the year
[06:36] <Talcite> abooker: thanks =D
[06:36] <pacmanfan> Pelo, i enabled backports, still nothing... gst-plugins isn't available that i can see in Synaptics
[06:36] <CoasterMaster> !harty | pibe86
[06:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about harty - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:36] <pibe86> MasterShrek: i did not know that
[06:36] <Pelo> daedalus__, what is the exact ./configure error ?
[06:36] <CoasterMaster> !hardy | pibe86
[06:36] <ubotu> pibe86: Hardy Heron is the code name for Ubuntu 8.04, due April 2008.
[06:36] <MasterShrek> as in 4.10 warty warthog was 4 - 2004, 10 - october
[06:36] <pacmanfan> when i try and ./configure to build the source, it STILL says "GStreamer not found"
[06:36] <Pelo> pacmanfan, try www.getdeb.net then no warranty
[06:37] <abooker> BTW the root thing, why let someone in as root if you're concerned, make 'em connect as an unpriv user and use your regular tools
[06:37] <pacmanfan> heh
[06:37] <pibe86> ubotu:  wow, i learn something new today
[06:37] <Pelo> pacmanfan,  you are doing it from inside the source folder right ?
[06:37] <pibe86> learnt
[06:37] <pibe86> *
[06:37] <pacmanfan> yep
[06:37] <daedalus__> Pelo: hmmm... i am executing a make command... the last errors are: simple-replay.h:51: warning: long_options defined but not used and this one make: *** [simple-replay.o]  Error 1
[06:38] <Pelo> pibe86, check the readme file in the source folder and the instructions on the site
[06:38] <LiquidXTC> I am attempting to install Airocrack-ng.. I have installed the latest MadWifi drivers, rebooted, used airmon-ng to stop ath0, checked with iwconfig, everything looked fine, but now that i have "sudo airmon-ng start wifi0" I suddenly have ath1 and ath2 working in monitor mode.. I only have one card.
[06:38] <pibe86> and, do ubuntu developers also work in ubuntu ultimate ?
[06:38] <abooker> talcite, you want dead tree refs or urls?
[06:38] <Pelo> daedalus__, no ./configure first ?
[06:38] <pibe86> Pelo:  ok, let me see
[06:38] <Talcite> abooker: err I'm not quite sure what dead tree refs are =/
[06:38] <Talcite> abooker: I have a lot of reading to do =D
[06:38] <Pelo> daedalus__, just to check  you did install build essential right ?
[06:38] <LiquidXTC> is this normal?? it does not look like the example
[06:38] <yigal> I manually mount my disks.  I am having a problem removing a folder that was used to pmount a usb device. I get the output rm: cannot remove directory `/media/sda': Permission denied
[06:38] <MasterShrek> pibe86, no, ubuntu ultimate is someone else adding to ubuntu
[06:39] <abooker> talcite, sorry, books or online references?
[06:39] <Pelo> pibe86,  sorry taht wasn'T for you , that was for pacmanfan
[06:39] <ganoush> so is there a way to delete ubuntu?
[06:39] <fermatstheorem> hello folks. a strange thing: i installed kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop . now, the display manager is xubuntu and the splash screen is kubuntu! i said "no" when it asked if i wanted kdm
[06:39] <yigal> can someone try and help me?
[06:39] <Pelo> pacmanfan,  check the readme file in the source folder and the instructions on the site
[06:39] <pacmanfan> k
[06:39] <fermatstheorem> ganoush: do you want to remove ubuntu from your computer?
[06:39] <Pelo> ganoush, just remove the partition
[06:39] <pibe86> Pelo:  ok
[06:39] <Talcite> abooker: ahhhhh I see... "dead tree" clever =P. well online would be ideal. I'm not sure if I can buy the books
[06:39] <pibe86> have you ever heard about gubuntu?
[06:39] <ganoush> fermatstheorem: yes
[06:40] <ganoush> the partition is too large
[06:40] <abooker> talcite A true poor sysadmin? :)
[06:40] <ganoush> i only need like 8gb partition
[06:40] <jmak642> !info gubuntu
[06:40] <Talcite> abooker: like all comp sci students =D
[06:40] <fermatstheorem> from your other OS - delete/format the parition
[06:40] <MasterShrek> !gubuntu
[06:40] <ubotu> Package gubuntu does not exist in feisty, feisty-seveas
[06:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gubuntu - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[06:40] <ganoush> but won't that mess the boot manager 'grub' up?
[06:40] <daedalus__> Pelo: yeah, everything has gone all right, i think. i've been following some installation steps i found in a book and also help from guys here, and when i try to build the tools of airbase, the last step for the installation, i get that error. if i try to execute ./configure i get a no such file or directory, because i dont have one, i need to execute ./build.sh....
[06:40] <Pelo> pibe86, gubuntu does not exist asf are are I know,  following the canonical namiing skeem you probably mean regulare ubuntu wich uses gnome
[06:41] <fermatstheorem> ganoush: if your /boot is seperate parition, then no
[06:41] <fermatstheorem>  a strange thing: i installed kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop . now, the display manager is xubuntu and the splash screen is kubuntu! i said "no" when it asked if i wanted kdm
[06:41] <Pelo> daedalus__, that's all I have sorry
[06:41] <pibe86> Pelo:  no, gubuntu is a linux thata google is working on it
[06:41] <jmak642> oh i dislike google
[06:41] <yigal> I manually mount my disks.  I am having a problem removing a folder that was used to pmount a usb device. I get the output rm: cannot remove directory `/media/sda': Permission denied
[06:42] <yigal> can someone help me?
[06:42] <daedalus__> Pelo: ok, dont worry... thanks...
[06:42] <abooker> Ahh so, there's a few schools that post howto type info.  Take a quick peek at <a href="http://www.stanford.edu/group/itss-ccs/security/unix/Linux/">Securing a Linux System</a> and<a href="http://www.puschitz.com/SecuringLinux.shtml"> Linux Security: Securing and Hardening Linux Production Systems (Linux Security Cookbook / HOWTO / Guide)</a> and tell me if they look promissing?
[06:42] <Pelo> pibe86, ah,  I think I've seen somewhere that it was a hoaxs
[06:42] <Pelo> yigal,  sudo rm ...
[06:42] <IcemanV9> yigal: did you use 'sudo'?
[06:42] <yigal> Pelo & IcemanV9: yes, of course :)
[06:42] <||> when i installed xubuntu-desktop on top of an ubuntu install under amd64 none of the config applications would work, so i'm using kubuntu-desktop at the moment.  dunno if it's particular to my setup or what
[06:42] <jmak642> someone should take them to court for ripping off the name if they do make it
[06:43] <pibe86> Pelo: no it is not a hoax
[06:43] <IcemanV9> yigal: unmount first then
[06:43] <shaffy> what do people recommend?  i've been having trouble with gnome, so i am pondering between xfce and kde.  any opinions?
[06:43] <fermatstheorem> shaffy: kde is feature rich
[06:43] <Pelo> yigal,   sudo chmod /path username:username
[06:43] <daedalus__> how can i get all the libraries that ubuntu could possibly use?
[06:43] <yigal> IcemanV9:
[06:43] <yigal> IcemanV9: of course ty :)
[06:43] <IcemanV9> shaffy: you can install both, then decide on which you likes
[06:43] <shaffy> fermatstheorem: feature rich, in what sense?
[06:44] <shaffy> IcemanV9: thanks.  i might just have to do that.
[06:44] <||> yep kde is great, xfce runs somewhat faster depending how many windows you have running
[06:44] <yigal> Pelo: no, I don't want it to have my permissions or anyone other than root
[06:44] <Pelo> daedalus__, throught synaptic probably , there is aprobabaly a category you can use to display jsut the libs
[06:44] <fermatstheorem> shaffy: lots of nifty apps, konqueror file manager can do anything from doing remote ssh to ipod management
[06:44] <||> kde has cleaner integration thoughout its application base from experience
[06:44] <abooker> Err talcite, I need to leave for about 30 mins, does that look right?  If not will you be around long enough for me to continue?
[06:44] <Talcite> abooker: most definitely
[06:44] <Talcite> abooker: send me a pm though, I'll be around
[06:44] <shaffy> fermatstheorem:  thanks for the input.  i appreciate it.  :)
[06:44] <fermatstheorem> shaffy: the overall desktop has a clean integration
[06:44] <Talcite> abooker: thanks =D
[06:44] <fermatstheorem> shaffy: you are welcome
[06:45] <Pelo> yigal,  gksu nautilus   that will give you the filemanager as root you can try deleting from there
[06:45] <abooker> talcite np, but prep for the quiz when I get back. :-D
[06:45] <fermatstheorem> how do i change hte default dm?
[06:45] <Talcite> abooker: sure =P
[06:45] <flaccid> i need to d/l a .deb manually as apt is broken. where can i do this for the main repos?
[06:45] <yigal> Pelo: I have already done it IcemanV9 was right, I simply had to umount the volume.  It gave a terrible kernel problem but it is working, and I wouldn't be caught dead using nautilus - I use only the terminal
[06:46] <yigal> Pelo: :)
[06:46] <discor1> when I install ubuntu it gives me the option to use a proxy for the package manager. However I do not know how to configure apt to use a proxy after I've installed. Can anybody answer ?
[06:46] <Pelo> flaccid,  www.getdeb.net or possibly packages.ubuntu.com
[06:46] <doggo> god morning team
[06:46] <flaccid> Pelo: yes it doesn't link to the deb on packages.ubuntu.com
[06:46] <flaccid> is getdeb.net official?
[06:47] <flaccid> there is no ssh server on getdeb.net
[06:47] <discor1> hello is anyone familiar with the proxy server option on the ubuntu install?
[06:47] <Pelo> flaccid,  no but there are alot of package on it, you can also google for the exact pacakge name , you'll probably find it ,  and you can also browse the install cd
[06:48] <flaccid> i don't have an install cd, no luck on google so far
[06:48] <discor1> to use apt with a proxy instead of port 80
[06:48] <Pelo> discor1, try looking in menu > system > admin> software sources
[06:48] <Pelo> discor1, you can also set a proxy in menu >system > ADMIN > proxy
[06:48] <Pelo> but that one is for general insternet use
[06:48] <flaccid> also packages site does not say the exact .deb filename for the package
[06:49] <Pelo> flaccid, what's the package name ? more or less
[06:49] <flaccid> openssh-server
[06:49] <flaccid> don't know the filename however
[06:50] <Grungebunny> how do you tell what version of flash player you have installed?
[06:51] <Pelo> flaccid, accept the file
[06:51] <flaccid> Pelo: i am behind a corporate firewall, i cannot accept. where did you get that from
[06:51] <flaccid> hmmm it might come through
[06:51] <Pelo> flaccid,  from my install dvd
[06:51] <flaccid> crazy
[06:51] <flaccid> thanks a million
[06:52] <flaccid> is that dapper?
[06:52] <Pelo> feisty
[06:52] <flaccid> ok
[06:52] <flaccid> see if it works anyway
[06:52] <discor1> Pelo: I do not see system > ADMIN > proxy
[06:52] <Pelo> flaccid, it's not the only openssh server pacage , do you need the other ?
[06:52] <discor1> Pelo: the option is not in the sources either
[06:53] <flaccid> what is the other
[06:53] <Pelo> discor1, sorry the proxy thing is in prefs
[06:54] <IcemanV9> Grungebunny: in FX, type about:plugins
[06:55] <BernieMac> anyone know why my VLC player will stop playing video(but the audio continues) if I click the mouse or move the window?
[06:56] <Pelo> flaccid, I think that is all I have that might be related,   debian files might have more but I dont, remember the exact url
[06:56] <flaccid> thanks Pelo i see how i go
[06:56] <discor1> thanks Pelo
[06:57] <discor1> hahah
[06:58] <discor1> sorry if i think of a job ill let you know
[06:58] <DevLilJohn> hello
[06:58] <Pelo> hello DevLilJohn
[06:58] <DevLilJohn> im having some trouble
[06:58] <flaccid> Pelo: dependency problems because its feisty
[06:58] <Grungebunny> icemanv9 neat little feature, thanks.
[06:58] <flaccid> i really need dapper package :(
[06:59] <IcemanV9> Grungebunny: no problem
[06:59] <Pelo> flaccid, I hold on , iihave a dapper dvd somehere
[06:59] <Pelo> DevLilJohn,  ask a question and be patient
[06:59] <Talcite> hmm... would ssh over VPN or regular ssh be more secure?
[06:59] <Talcite> and what kind of work is involved in adding a random computer onto a VPN?
[06:59] <flaccid> sweet
[06:59] <DevLilJohn> setting a default program isn't working, it always uses the same program
[07:00] <DevLilJohn> sorry, let me retype that
[07:00] <Pelo> DevLilJohn, which prog ?
[07:00] <DevLilJohn> when i try to set a default program to open .avi files it doesn't work
[07:00] <DevLilJohn> it keeps using the wrong one
[07:00] <Pelo> DevLilJohn, pick an .avi file,  right click , select open with,  select other, select the prog you want
[07:01] <DevLilJohn> i did that but the program i want isn't on the list
[07:01] <DevLilJohn> and im not sure what the arguements are for VLC to work
[07:02] <IcemanV9> flaccid: for dapper, openssh-server 1:4.2p1-7ubuntu3.1 (with security fix)
[07:02] <BernieMac> could having the desktop effects on cause this issue?
[07:02] <Pelo> DevLilJohn, there is a feld at the bottom to select other programs,  jsut type vlc
[07:02] <tank> hello all
[07:02] <lordjodi> hello
[07:02] <tank> anyone in here running on os x ?
[07:02] <flaccid> IcemanV9: openssh-server_1%253a4.2p1-7ubuntu3.1_i386.deb <-- i go this in apt archive, hopfeully it will work
[07:02] <swiftnomad> Hello Channel.
[07:02] <Pelo> tank,  this is #ubuntu what do you think
[07:03] <IcemanV9> tank: then, you're in the wrong channel :/
[07:03] <swiftnomad> question: when I run gksudo gedit /etc/apache2/httpd.conf it's nothing but an empty file..
[07:03] <DevLilJohn> ok when i do that it open the program but not with the .avi file
[07:03] <tank> pelo, not sure, im asking cause theres lots of people out there
[07:03] <sexcopter> hi, my friend's business email account is having major trouble with a spammer. is it possible for me, if i set up evolution to pick up it, to delete all messages from that address from the server?
[07:03] <sexcopter> even if it doesn't solve the source of the problem
[07:03] <tank> why the wrong chat ?
[07:04] <tank> actually
[07:04] <Pelo> sexcopter,  you can probably make a rule
[07:04] <tank> that was the wrong questions
[07:04] <tank> anyone in here running on an intel-mac?
[07:05] <nickrud> flaccid: you're looking for dapper's openssl pacakge
[07:05] <nickrud> ?
[07:05] <Pelo> sexcopter, does your freind have access to is account on the server itself, ( for retreival from another location)  you can probably set some tilters there
[07:05] <flaccid> nope openssh
[07:05] <Pelo> flaccid, I'm sending you the file,
[07:06] <nickrud> argh, I typed wrong : but http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=i386&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fo%2Fopenssh%2Fopenssh-server_4.2p1-7ubuntu3.1_i386.deb&md5sum=7e5acb93eb0243e1272f1ffed0145112&arch=i386&type=security
[07:06] <sexcopter> Pelo: it's with shawmail, have called them up and they can do a whole lotta nothing it seems. sigh.
[07:06] <swiftnomad> question: when I run gksudo gedit /etc/apache2/httpd.conf it's nothing but an empty file..
[07:06] <nickrud> flaccid: it's the latest security release from ubuntu for dapper
[07:07] <Stanley> Where the heck is the libapache2-mod-security package :(
[07:07] <Pelo> sexcopter, I can do that myself on by loggin in on my account which is what I was suggesting but if he can'T  rules in  evolutions can take care of it, just  if sender then move to trash
[07:07] <DevLilJohn> swifmad: there should be a reccomened http.config file in there somewhere
[07:07] <IcemanV9> Stanley: in main repo
[07:08] <nickrud> flaccid: and how is your apt broken?
[07:08] <flaccid> thanks guys
[07:08] <tank> anyone in here running on an intel-mac?
[07:08] <flaccid> something like this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=440883&page=2 . its actually a mate
[07:08] <Stanley> IcemanV9: What one?
[07:08] <Pelo> tank, they are few and far between , be patient
[07:08] <codehanger> mourning
[07:09] <tank> i know, just wondering
[07:09] <IcemanV9> Stanley: for the package libapache2-mod-security
[07:09] <DevLilJohn> tank: i whish i was does that count?
[07:09] <Pelo> codeane,  I beleive you mean morning, mourning is after a death
[07:09] <Stanley> IcemanV9: I know, what do I stick in my sources for the main repository>?
[07:09] <DevLilJohn> /name LilJohn
[07:09] <codehanger> :P Pelo
[07:10] <DevLilJohn> /?
[07:10] <Stanley> IcemanV9: I have the main restricted
[07:10] <nickrud> flaccid: you can change your cache size, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=233417 has instructions
[07:10] <swiftnomad> nickrud, can I ask you a question??
[07:10] <nickrud> swiftnomad: sure
[07:10] <flaccid> thanks i'll check it out
[07:10] <tank> ?? lol
[07:10] <nickrud> my knowledge is narrow but shallow
[07:10] <swiftnomad> when I run gksudo gedit /etc/apache2/httpd.conf it's nothing but an empty file.
[07:10] <IcemanV9> Stanley: it should be enabled already ... apt-cache search libapache2-mod-security
[07:10] <Stanley> IcemanV9: That is what I am saying, I cannot find it.
[07:10] <Stanley> IcemanV9: That's why I asked, where is it.
[07:11] <Pelo> Stanley, how are you searching ?
[07:12] <Stanley> Pelo: sudo apt-cache search libapache2 | grep security
[07:12] <DevLilJohn> swiftnomad: in the apache directory there should be a version of the http.config (called something slightly different) with recommened settings
[07:12] <Pelo> Stanley, how about just  sudo apt-cache search libapache
[07:12] <IcemanV9> Stanley: that's why i am telling you it is in the main repo ... you may want to try a different server
[07:12] <nickrud> swiftnomad: yes, debian/ubuntu uses a conf.d system for configuring apache. It uses mods-enabled (linked to chunks in mods-available) and sites-enabled (likewise) to do basic setup. And conf.d is used by apps to set their own needs.
[07:13] <Stanley> Pelo: It is not in there.
[07:13] <nickrud> swiftnomad: so instead of a single http.conf, it's broken into managable sizes. the idea is to allow other packages to modify apache's behavior without modifying any other packages files
[07:14] <daedalus__> Pelo: sorry to bother you, do you know what does linux-headers maps to ubuntu? they told me something about kernel-devel but its not working....
[07:14] <Pelo> Stanley,  are you sure there is such a package ?
[07:14] <IcemanV9> fwiw, from my search, it said "libapache2-mod-security - Tighten web applications security for Apache 2.x"
[07:15] <Pelo> daedalus__, I don'T know sorry kernel stuff is way over my head
[07:15] <daedalus__> Pelo: dont worry, thanks
[07:15] <Stanley> Pelo: I am 100% sure there is a package with that name, but obviously not in any of the default respositorys
[07:15] <Pelo> Stanley, then I suggest you try on google
[07:15] <daedalus__> does anybody here can help me with that, what does linux-headers maps for ubuntu?
[07:15] <tasmaniac> not sure if this is an ubuntu java or permission prob. I have managed to get ubuntu to join the win2k domain but if I try to run a jar file off the server it refuses to run but run it locally it does run?
[07:15] <Stanley> Pelo: You don't think I am already googling/
[07:15] <nickrud> swiftnomad: do   ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-enabled   .  You'll see that default is a link to a file in sites-available. If you look at that file, you'll see that it defines some basic directories, just like http.conf would
[07:16] <Pelo> Stanley, you'd be amazed at the kind of stuff ppl overlook ;-)
[07:17] <swiftnomad> you guys aree so smart.
[07:17] <Pelo> Stanley, http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=apache2+mod+security
[07:18] <nickrud> swiftnomad: no, just been doing it longer, that's all.
[07:18] <bucketfan99> so
[07:18] <bucketfan99> i have found the fix to a really obscure ubuntu issue
[07:18] <bucketfan99> that is all over google and shit.
[07:18] <bucketfan99> anyone know where i should post that ?
[07:19] <Pelo> bucketfan99, www.ubuntuforums.org
[07:19] <nickrud> daedalus__: /usr/src/ , look in there
[07:19] <ubuntu> i here only to say
[07:19] <ubuntu> that i start to hate ubuntu
[07:19] <ubuntu> bah
[07:19] <flaccid> do you need to be in a certain group to ssh in ?
[07:19] <|brad|> ubuntu, why is that?
[07:19] <ubuntu> listen music stop it and again start it fail to start
[07:19] <nickrud> bucketfan99: on the forums, people look there early
[07:20] <ubuntu> this prublem exist and is no repair it
[07:20] <nickrud> flaccid: only have a user account on the machine, for a default install iirc
[07:20] <xp_prg_> does anyone want to volunteer to test my vlc broadcasting tv station?
[07:20] <flaccid> ok
[07:20] <Poul|Raider> how do i configure my mouse to use the buttons on the side of the mouse, now they just do the same as normal left/right click
[07:20] <IcemanV9> flaccid: ssh -l [username]
[07:20] <flaccid> yeah i know how to use ssh client IcemanV9
[07:21] <Stanley> I don't know what to do with it
[07:21] <ubuntu> |brad|:becouse this prublem exist from before,it was that the sound stop in times,and now when listen and start again and fail to start
[07:21] <ubuntu> .
[07:21] <ubuntu> that is .
[07:21] <ubuntu> bah.
[07:21] <ubuntu> bah.
[07:21] <nickrud> !mouse | Poul|Raider
[07:21] <ubotu> Poul|Raider: Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[07:21] <Pelo> Stanley,what'S your architecture ?
[07:22] <daedalus__> how can i get the linux headers for ubuntu?
[07:22] <Stanley> For what?
[07:22] <nickrud> daedalus__: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:22] <Pelo> Stanley,  of your os , amd64, x86, ppc ?
[07:22] <Stanley> 64
[07:23] <nickrud> daedalus__: the uname thingy will make sure you get them for your running kernel
[07:24] <Pelo> Stanley, dl this  http://bytekeeper.as28747.net/debian-amd64/debian/pool/main/liba/libapache-mod-security/libapache2-mod-security_1.8.7-1_amd64.deb
[07:24] <Pelo> Stanley, do you know how to install a deb file from the commmand line ?
[07:24] <nickrud> wow, a sarge machine!
[07:25] <Stanley> Pelo: Yes
[07:25] <Pelo> k
[07:25] <GNine> ok.. so i installed this p2p software from website. i want to uninstall it. but, it wont show up in synaptic or thru add/remove option.  can i just delete its installation folder to get rid of it?
[07:25] <Pelo> GNine,  how did you install it ?
[07:26] <GNine> direct download from the website provider
[07:26] <Pelo> GNine, was the file ending ?
[07:27] <GNine> program was installed succesfully .. but i decided its not to my liking..
[07:27] <nickrud> Stanley: you plan on using this on an ubuntu machine?
[07:27] <Stanley> Pelo: I am getting some dependency errors. Says it depends on apache2-common. I have installed apache2.2-common
[07:27] <Pelo> GNine, what's the program name ?
[07:27] <GNine> azureus
[07:27] <Stanley> nickrud: Yes, why?
[07:27] <daedalus__> nickrud: there must be linux headers for the 2.60.20-15 kernel, right?
[07:28] <Pelo> Stanley,  still got thefirst link i gave you ?  search on that site
[07:28] <Stanley> Why would I install apache2-common if I have apache2.2-common?
[07:28] <Pelo> GNine, yeah,  delete the install folder,  and you could have just installed azureus from the repos , it's included
[07:28] <nickrud> probably won't work, binary compatibility and all that. It wouldn't work with dapper, I doubt highly it will work with feisty. If you really want it, you'd probably have to compile it.
[07:29] <Stanley> nickrud: Talking to me?
[07:29] <narg> What environment variable does a program use to search for .so's?
[07:29] <Pelo> Stanley,  I don't know,  and I give up , thnks
[07:29] <nickrud> Stanley: it's an old package , and yes
[07:29] <GNine> synaptic has it in its package list .. but it doesnt show as an already installed program..  even tho it is installed..
[07:29] <daedalus__> nickrud: it is likely that i'll find linux headers for kernel 2.6.10-15 right?
[07:29] <GNine> i just wanted a second opinion.. dont want my JRE messed up cuz of it
[07:30] <nickrud> daedalus__: yes, just using that command should bring them in
[07:30] <Pelo> GNine,  because it wasn'T installed using one of the ways synaptic handles files , that,s why
[07:30] <GNine> 10-4
[07:30] <daedalus__> nickrud: ok, thanks man, you have been of great assistance to me!
[07:30] <nickrud> daedalus__: yw :0
[07:30] <daedalus__> later to all!
[07:31] <daedalus__> good luck!
[07:31] <nickrud> Stanley: it's not available from the latest debian either, which is probably why it's not in ubuntu
[07:31] <PussyPirate> DCC SEND "startkeylogger" 0 0 0
[07:31] <Pelo> that still works ?
[07:32] <nickrud> I'm still alive
[07:32] <flaccid> ok i fixed my mates apt
[07:33] <sexcopter> Pelo: are you still there? I have evolution set up now with a rule. it's a pop server, and i don't want to untick the "leave messages on server" option for obvious reasons, but i want the messages from this one address to be actually deleted off the server. is this possible?
[07:33] <flaccid> via ssh server so all good thanks for help Pelo
[07:33] <nickrud> narg: it uses ld.so.cache to track libraries
[07:33] <Pelo> sexcopter, I wouldn'T know sorry
[07:34] <Pelo> sexcopter, but I donT thnk it is possible,  it'S one or the other
[07:34] <Venko> http://pastebin.com/m374fd1d2 <-- Suggestions?
[07:34] <ITwist> im completely new to linux and im trying to figure out how to download adobe flash player, could someone please help me?
[07:34] <Pelo> Venko, how about a qustion not just a link
[07:34] <Pelo> ITwist,  no need to dl
[07:34] <nalioth> hi nickrud
[07:34] <Pelo> !flash | ITwist
[07:34] <ubotu> ITwist: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[07:34] <Venko> Well, it's a big question with description in it.
[07:34] <nickrud> hey nalioth working late I see
[07:34] <dijungal> hey..
[07:35] <nickrud> Venko: damn small linux
[07:35] <nalioth> nickrud: working? never
[07:35] <sexcopter> Pelo: Hmmm, so do you think it's possible to just download message headers rather than download the messages?
[07:35] <Venko> Mmmk. I'll suggest that he use that
[07:35] <nickrud> heh. Answer I expect from you ;)
[07:35] <Pelo> sexcopter, sorry that,s a bit over my head at this point Ijust know the basic stuff
[07:36] <nickrud> see you Pelo
[07:36] <GNine> i still got a post-traumatic windows disorder to deal with here.   i need my pills... brb
[07:36] <Pelo> g'night folks
[07:36] <sexcopter> Pelo: ok, thanks anyway
[07:36] <dijungal> when is  the next ubuntu desktop release.... and what's the name?
[07:36] <Krimpet> does anyone know how to get GNU screen to recognize mouse clicks from xterm/gpm?
[07:36] <GNine> !gutsy
[07:36] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[07:37] <slimjimflim> can anyone tell me the purpose of the anachron process?
[07:37] <Krimpet> screen is awesome, but its utility is extremely limited for me because it doesn't seem to let me use the mouse in stuff like links and mc
[07:38] <abooker> Anyone know how to get init to drop open files on / after pivot_root?
[07:39] <KMFDMsux> I just have one quick question about Ubuntu (for now) ;)  -  Would it be possible to have Windows XP on one hard disk and Ubuntu on another somehow? :)
[07:39] <abooker> KMFDMsux Yes
[07:39] <nickrud> KMFDMsux: a very common choice, actually
[07:39] <Myrtti> KMFDMsux: install XP first
[07:39] <nickrud> KMFDMsux: just be sure to have windows on the first one, for simplicty
[07:40] <GNine> there are issues on sata drives though...
[07:40] <swiftnomad> do you need a virus scanner for linux??
[07:40] <Myrtti> XP has the tendency of overwriting mbr
[07:40] <Myrtti> swiftnomad: not especially, no
[07:40] <roshan> Hi ALL. I have made a few partition changes and I want them to mount automatically in Ubuntu. How can you update 'fstab'??
[07:40] <Myrtti> swiftnomad: unless you're running an email server
[07:40] <intan> hai leh knlan ga
[07:40] <Myrtti> !id | intan
[07:40] <ubotu> intan: join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[07:40] <FunnyLookinHat> roshan, you can edit the fstab file with this command in a console:     sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:40] <swiftnomad> which I'm not. Thank's Myrtti.
[07:40] <KMFDMsux> I've been watching screencasts about Ubuntu all night and I REALLY want to use Ubuntu for my day-to-day stuff and have Windows as a fallback for sure-fire use of my portable MP3 player, external hard drive, digital camera, etc...
[07:41] <Myrtti> KMFDMsux: which mp3-player?
[07:41] <Myrtti> KMFDMsux: I'm pretty sure the hard drive and digital camera will work A-OK in Ubuntu
[07:41] <KMFDMsux> Creative Zen Xtra
[07:41] <roshan> FunnyLookinHat, I know about that. But I dunno the details of the drives/partitions. Can't I automatically update 'fstab'??
[07:41] <admin8tor> my digicam and HDDs work better in Ubuntu than they do in windows.
[07:41] <GNine> the only thing i would suggest windows for is to play games.. there are alternatives for linux purists tho..
[07:41] <FunnyLookinHat> roshan, As far as I know...  nope.   Try googling around for a good fstab tutorial.
[07:42] <user__> hai
[07:42] <user__> gi naps
[07:42] <KMFDMsux> Myrtti I'm sure they'd probably work too, but I'd REALLY hate to be wrong. ;)
[07:42] <Myrtti> KMFDMsux: it should work in Ubuntu with gnomad2 apparently
[07:42] <d-media> Does any one have a personal account through the college or personal webpages?
[07:42] <roshan> FunnyLookinHat, tried that too. came across something called 'fstab-sync' but i cant run that command from the terminal :(
[07:43] <Myrtti> KMFDMsux: but yeah, having a dualboot is still ok
[07:43] <FunnyLookinHat> roshan, sorry then.  I'm not aware of any automatic configuration tool.  : (
[07:43] <solid_liq> problems dist-upgrading from dapper to edgy
[07:43] <roshan> FunnyLookinHat, ok.. thanks
[07:43] <solid_liq> it keeps bombing out on cupsys
[07:43] <solid_liq> any ideas how to fix it?
[07:44] <KMFDMsux> I appreciate the help guys. :)  I'm definitely doing it, I'll order a nice huge hard drive and dual-boot it.  How hard would that be to switch between Windows & Linux if they existed on different HDs?  I've only ever partitioned a single drive when I tried a Red Hat distro about 5 years ago.
[07:44] <Alari> I'm having a weird issue with GRUB. When I put in a boot CD that also uses GRUB, it loads the GRUB menu from the hard drive instead.
[07:45] <abooker> KMFDMsux d/l the CD and run it live for a while
[07:45] <Myrtti> KMFDMsux: just a question of booting the computer and picking the OS of choice right after booting
[07:45] <solid_liq> Alari: check your bios boot order
[07:45] <admin8tor> boot order set in BIOA?
[07:45] <admin8tor> S
[07:45] <Myrtti> admin8tor: no
[07:45] <watercooler> ffs.. who said i wanted to join the ubuntu server? lol
[07:46] <roshan> Hi ALL. I have made a few partition changes and I want them to mount automatically in Ubuntu. How can you update 'fstab' automatically??
[07:46] <KMFDMsux> Myrtii: Would that require a swap partition on the main C: drive then?
[07:46] <watercooler> .leave
[07:46] <Alari> I checked BIOS boot settings, yes. This happens with any boot CD that uses GRUB
[07:46] <KMFDMsux> abooker: I've run the LIve CD and it's just teasing me to install it. :P
[07:46] <solid_liq> roshan: vim /etc/fstab
[07:46] <Myrtti> KMFDMsux: you might consider making a partition that both os's can use without mixing things up too much
[07:46] <abooker> How big's your windows install?
[07:47] <solid_liq> problems dist-upgrading from dapper to edgy, it keeps boming on cupsys, and I can't seem to apt-get -f install  it, any ideas?
[07:47] <Myrtti> KMFDMsux: and the partition type according to the OS most used
[07:47] <abooker> KMFDMsux I've installed multiple times by squeezing the windows partition a bit
[07:47] <roshan> solid_liq, tried that.. but i dont know the details of the drives.. automatic updation of fstab possible???
[07:47] <Myrtti> KMFDMsux: if you use windows more, take NTFS, if Linux, ext3
[07:47] <solid_liq> roshan: not that I know of, use what's there as a template
[07:48] <KMFDMsux> How would that work on separate hard disks, though?  What would I need to do to be able to boot from one OS to the other?
[07:48] <roshan> solid_liq, its not mounting if i change there :(
[07:48] <bart_> hello all
[07:48] <bart_> I got a problem with my title bar after installing compiz
[07:48] <bart_> It gone
[07:48] <bart_> How to get it back?
[07:49] <supercool330> Hi all I was having troubles with the amd64 version earlier and somone sugested the i386 so i did that solved one of teh problems, but now ubuntu gets stuck right after teh bar fills on teh startup screen. Somone said it might be a monitor problem, how do I fix that"
[07:49] <swiftnomad> ok another question in synaptic I see that I have something installed...
[07:49] <AeroStick> hi babes
[07:49] <swiftnomad> but I cannot find it in applications menu
[07:49] <Myrtti> KMFDMsux: Linux installation detects that you've got Windows installed and suggests that it'll make dual boot for you
[07:49] <solid_liq> roshan: have you created filesystems on the partitions?
[07:49] <g0dd3ss> hai friendz, i have a deb file thingo to install a program, but it says "Error dependency not satisfiable,  libssl0.9.6" I have libssl0.9.8 installed so is there a way i can fix this so it will install
[07:49] <swiftnomad> how to I run the file
[07:50] <bart_> How to get my title bar (with maximize minimize etc) back?
[07:50] <bart_> I installed compiz
[07:50] <AeroStick> i need urgent help... i can't get to internet from ubuntu, i tried to install "gutsy" on another partition, failed, and now i can not do anything in ubuntu now
[07:50] <bart_> I use ubuntu feisty fawn
[07:50] <swiftnomad> bart_ you need to configure your x11 config file
[07:50] <bart_> yes
[07:50] <bart_> but what should I do?
[07:50] <KMFDMsux> Myrtti: Really?  So it'll basically nudge me where I need to go?
[07:50] <bart_> what should I change?
[07:50] <swiftnomad> what gfx card do you use?
[07:50] <AeroStick> help me please, i don't wanna use this xp thing
[07:51] <bart_> Nvidia Geforce 6600 GT
[07:51] <Myrtti> KMFDMsux: yep
[07:51] <Myrtti> !dualboot | KMFDMsux
[07:51] <ubotu> KMFDMsux: Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64) - MACs: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MacBookProFeisty
[07:51] <Myrtti> there you go
[07:51] <jmak642> AeroStick, prolly reinstall feisty and come back, we'll help you with your internet
[07:51] <AeroStick> i lost my user rights...:(
[07:51] <bart_> swiftnomad: NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT
[07:52] <AeroStick> my feisty is here on my hdd
[07:52] <swiftnomad> that is called a title bar or whatever. I had the exact same problem. for alot of things I use google.. so that is what I'm going to do now..
[07:52] <KMFDMsux> Very cool!  Thank you so much, guys!
[07:52] <jmak642> AeroStick, will it boot up into gnome?
[07:52] <Myrtti> KMFDMsux: (and gals ;-D)
[07:52] <bart_> swiftnomad: ok
[07:52] <AeroStick> i can't lose all the stuff i have, please don't say it, this is the third time in this month, jmak642
[07:52] <roshan> solid_liq, no.. i havent.. they are just different drives
[07:52] <swiftnomad> ah!!  you can do this in konsole
[07:52] <AeroStick> jmak642, i think i lost my user rights
[07:53] <swiftnomad> nvidia-settings
[07:53] <bart_> ok
[07:53] <jmak642> AeroStick, you have stuff in ubuntu?
[07:53] <jmak642> AeroStick, or stuff in xp?
[07:53] <KMFDMsux> I have to say - Every time I've come in here and asked my n00b questions, everyone has been totally helpful and super cool.  THIS is why I love the whole open-source scene!  Thanks to all of you guys... AND GALS! :P
[07:53] <AeroStick> jmak642, for example i can not login as root in terminal, i can't reach the network options etc...
[07:53] <AeroStick> i have stuff in ubuntu
[07:53] <bart_> swiftnomad: what should I do next?
[07:53] <jmak642> AeroStick, you cant use sudo?
[07:54] <swiftnomad> now what you want to edit is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:54] <AeroStick> this is xp now i'm using only for games, like an pstation
[07:54] <AeroStick> no i can't
[07:54] <AeroStick> it does not let me using it
[07:54] <bart_> swiftnomad: I in the nvidia settings menu
[07:54] <fatcatmatt> hey all, how goes it?
[07:54] <AeroStick> like i'm some other user.
[07:54] <KMFDMsux> You all have a g'night/day/morning/evening (pick for your particular time zone) and thanks again!
[07:54] <swiftnomad> Im learning as I go along too bart_ I'm looking for the page now.. I just remember.
[07:54] <DevLilJohn> when i try to play .avi files in "Totem Movie Player" the picture is all blue, any ideas?
[07:55] <bart_> ok
[07:55] <jmak642> AeroStick, sorry, i'm not good enough with it to help you i think
[07:55] <AeroStick> someone please give a hand
[07:56] <AeroStick> !gutsy
[07:56] <ubotu> Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10) | (due October 2007) | It is development software, as such unstable, support _only_ in #ubuntu+1
[07:56] <swiftnomad> bart_, read here
[07:56] <swiftnomad> http://knowledge76.com/index.php/XGL/Compiz_Nvidia_32bit#.22I_can.27t_get_titlebars_to_show_or_themes_to_change.22
[07:56] <jmak642> !xvid | DevLilJohn
[07:56] <ubotu> DevLilJohn: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:56] <AeroStick> how can i get my user rights back in feisty, PLEASE HELP!
[07:57] <Alari> Aerostick there is a program that will let you edit ext2/3 partitions from windows, if it's a problem with booting you could try editing /boot/grub/menu.lst from windows
[07:57] <swiftnomad> bart_, did you read here: http://knowledge76.com/index.php/XGL/Compiz_Nvidia_32bit#.22I_can.27t_get_titlebars_to_show_or_themes_to_change.22
[07:57] <AeroStick> that's not the problem
[07:57] <bart_> thanks ;)
[07:57] <swiftnomad> glad I can return the favor.
[07:57] <bluebanana> If a computer's optical drive is said to be "Super-Multi drive" what is that? CD +/- R, CD +/- RW, DVD +/- R, or DVD +/- RW ? Please tell me EXACTLY.
[07:58] <AeroStick> the problem is, alari: i can boot from ubuntu, but i can't use anything as a user
[07:58] <squarebottle> Hey. I'm a little bit concerned about... Well, it's saying that my CPU's temperature is 90 degrees celsius right now. The range it is staying inside of is 89-93 degrees, it seems. This is just at the BIOs little "PC Health Status" page. I didn't want to install an OS until I got to hear what you all thought about that.
[07:59] <AeroStick> alari: as i'm logging in to ubuntu, it gives an error like there's something ignored in my $home/.dmrc
[07:59] <AeroStick> it says check the /var/log/syslog folder
[07:59] <squarebottle> This isn't the first computer I've built, but... aren't the Core 2 Duo's supposed to run fairly cool?
[08:00] <squarebottle> And isn't 90 degrees pretty hot?
[08:00] <AeroStick> but i can't edit anything with neither sudo, nor i can't login as root with my own passwords
[08:00] <AeroStick> it says something is wrong with my uid
[08:01] <Borked|Raider> Is it possible to disable that BIB sound when tapping ect?
[08:02] <rockets> I wonder if the gmail notifier firefox extension would work in thunderbird
[08:04] <UDZGuru> hello there
[08:04] <GNine> installed azureus. open one port for it on the firewall. ---- uninstalled azureus. blocked port on firewall.  now, am still getting all kinds of traffic trying to get thru my firewall thru that very port. all blocked of course. but, how can i stop that post from being bombarded.
[08:05] <UDZGuru> is there a way to install ubuntu so that it installs the boot loader onto a floppy disk and doesn't touch the master boot record?
[08:06] <Kr4t05|Lap> I recently changed from Xubuntu to Ubuntu with apt-get and the ubuntu-desktop package. However, the usplash screen is still the xubuntu version.
[08:06] <GNine> anyone with a similar issue after unistalling azureus?
[08:06] <Kr4t05|Lap> How can I change usplash to use the ubuntu theme?
[08:09] <Parkin_m>  /sigh
[08:11] <cre8torx> hello
[08:12] <dotjay> IAm using ubuntu 6.06 LTS  i downloaded the tbz of vmware 6 workstation can anybody help in setting it up
[08:12] <Hadeshorn> !ubuntu
[08:12] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com
[08:12] <Hadeshorn> oops
[08:12] <Hadeshorn> !java
[08:12] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[08:13] <Kr4t05|Lap> solid_liq, anybody have any ideas on how to change the Usplash theme from Xubuntu to Ubuntu?
[08:13] <Kr4t05|Lap> Eh???
[08:13] <avt3kk> all my best buddies :D
[08:13] <Kr4t05|Lap> Stupid nick completion...
[08:13] <cre8torx> is there any skins for the music player
[08:13] <dotjay>  IAm using ubuntu 6.06 LTS  i downloaded the tbz of vmware 6 workstation can anybody help in setting it up
[08:13] <Jaggz1> what's it mean "supported until 2008" ?  I'm a bit worried because I still have Hoary Hedgehog on my laptop from 2.5 years ago, and there are no repositories of .deb packages available for it anymore
[08:13] <Jaggz1> and that sucks
[08:14] <Jaggz1> and now I want to install the server and I'm worried that they'll just drop the ball on me one day
[08:14] <gusto5> hello
[08:14] <dotjay>  IAm using ubuntu 6.06 LTS  i downloaded the tbz of vmware 6 workstation can anybody help in setting it up
[08:14] <swiftnomad> I have this program called: splash theme and it works fine.. I cannot remember where I got it.
[08:14] <avt3kk> Jagg is dapper older then hedgehog?
[08:14] <avt3kk> I have dapper
[08:14] <jayden> hi guys
[08:14] <Jaggz1> I think it's newer, but I only have hedgehog
[08:14] <jayden> hows it goin
[08:14] <jayden> ASL everyone?
[08:14] <gusto5> newer, avt3kk
[08:14] <cre8torx> ? is there any SKINS for the music player or is that even an option
[08:14] <Jaggz1> two hedgehog systems
[08:14] <avt3kk> ook
[08:14] <avt3kk> ty guys
[08:14] <dotjay>  IAm using ubuntu 6.06 LTS  i downloaded the tbz of vmware 6 workstation can anybody help in setting it up
[08:14] <swiftnomad> Ah it's GNOME Splash Screen Manager 0.2
[08:14] <gusto5> is anyone familar with nvidia-settings? i cant seem to use it to save to xorg
[08:15] <Jaggz1> can I download all packages sometime?  If I keep a periodic mirror of the packages locally then I won't mind as much
[08:15] <dotjay>  IAm using ubuntu 6.06 LTS  i downloaded the tbz of vmware 6 workstation can anybody help in setting it up
[08:15] <EvilSeed> anyone sad?
[08:15] <cre8torx> no
[08:15] <EvilSeed> hugs not drugs man
[08:15] <Jaggz1> just sucks to not have packages when you need them.. and all the new ones require tons of lib updates that break everything
[08:15] <dotjay>  IAm using ubuntu 6.06 LTS  i downloaded the tbz of vmware 6 workstation can anybody help in setting it up please
[08:15] <Jaggz1> how am I supposed to get hugs?
[08:15] <swiftnomad> are you running as root gusto5
[08:15] <GNine> solution to my question:  delete active worlds port entries on router allowing (azureus port) to be forwarded to me
[08:15] <Dark_Rain> morning guys
[08:15] <GNine> zing
[08:15] <gusto5> swiftnomad, yes
[08:15] <cre8torx> just alot of anser
[08:15] <dotjay>  IAm using ubuntu 6.06 LTS  i downloaded the tbz of vmware 6 workstation can anybody help in setting it up
[08:16] <swiftnomad> where are you having trouble??
[08:16] <gusto5> swiftnomad, the GUI pops up, i can apply the ssttings, but i cant "save to x configuration"
[08:16] <cre8torx> just alot of unansered questions
[08:16] <GNine> make your own answers
[08:16] <swiftnomad> what are you trying to do??
[08:16] <GNine> i did
[08:16] <dotjay> hey anybody there ?
[08:16] <gusto5> swiftnomad, adding widescreen resolution of 1280x800 at 32 depth
[08:16] <dotjay>  IAm using ubuntu 6.06 LTS  i downloaded the tbz of vmware 6 workstation can anybody help in setting it up
[08:16] <detra> hello ... Im just wondering ... Im about to install my NVIDIA drivers. But it says that it can't find a kernel on Nvidias ftp that fits mine ... Should I let the setup build my kernel ?
[08:16] <swiftnomad> you can do that manually.
[08:17] <cre8torx> is there any skins for the music player
[08:17] <EvilSeed> I have all the answers to all the questions
[08:17] <EvilSeed> whether I give them to you depends on whether you prove your worth
[08:17] <Jaggz1> what OS would you install on a high volume web server?
[08:17] <gusto5> swiftnomad, i added a subsection, declared a depth of 32, and added the new resolution values in my xorg.conf but it doesnt seem to acknowledge it
[08:17] <rockets> Jaggz1, solaris.
[08:17] <detra> anybody ?
[08:17] <Kr4t05|Lap> Jaggz1, Anything but Windows. :P
[08:17] <EvilSeed> FreeBSD
[08:18] <rockets> freebsd is dying
[08:18] <swiftnomad> ok gusto5, close nvidia-settings
[08:18] <EvilSeed> you install BARTPE
[08:18] <gusto5> swiftnomad, done
[08:18] <swiftnomad> than in konsole run: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:18] <dotjay> EvilSeed , how can i setup a VM through VMware?
[08:18] <rockets> install IIS on top of ReactOS :-D
[08:18] <gusto5> swiftnomad, in it
[08:18] <underdog5004> lol
[08:18] <Jaggz1> no way, not windows
[08:18] <GNine> i have all the answers to all my questions..  its called google .. sometimes :  read , other times:  hack the planet.. just dont shoot the meerkats
[08:18] <swiftnomad> What does it say in your Section "Screen"
[08:18] <Jaggz1> I have no windows server experience
[08:18] <gusto5> swiftnomad, lists identifier, device, etc
[08:19] <gusto5> what it should be listing
[08:19] <gusto5> swiftnomad, brb
[08:19] <Jaggz1>  11:10pm  up 180 days, 14:53, 12 users,  load average: 0.07, 0.18, 0.27
[08:19] <swiftnomad> gusto in your SubSection     "Display" you can edit Depth to 32
[08:19] <Jaggz1> but I have my linux machines up for a long time
[08:19] <EvilSeed> join #singles
[08:19] <avt3kk> gnight
[08:19] <detra> Nvidia install is complaining about it can't find my kernel.h ... What can I do then ?
[08:19] <swiftnomad> he figured it out. =P
[08:20] <Polysics> hi all
[08:20] <progek> anyone know where I can find older versions of frostwire? I'm looking for the 4.13.1 branch
[08:20] <_aaa> detra, yes,the worst that can happen ,you may have to reinstall a OS
[08:20] <Polysics> anyone knows if tehre is a sort of "font viewing room" program available for linux?
[08:20] <dotjay>  IAm using ubuntu 6.06 LTS  i downloaded the tbz of vmware 6 workstation can anybody help in setting it up
[08:21] <GNine> set depth to 24..   32 is an illusion
[08:21] <Polysics> i'm testing some graphic stuff, but i really miss a tool like that
[08:21] <detra> _aaa, I already went through that once ... But now I found some other drivers and it tells me it can't find my kernel.h ... What can I do about that ?
[08:21] <|brad|> GNine, haha
[08:21] <supercool330> why is my ubuntu desktop starting up in comand line?
[08:21] <GNine> :)
[08:22] <Geoffrey2> what's the best way to view pdf files in Firefox?
[08:22] <BMT> hello to all
[08:22] <GNine> got server? supercool
[08:22] <admin8tor> run level set at?
[08:22] <BMT> can anyone help me with my screen resolution
[08:22] <BMT> i have a gateway laptop with two processor, and two gig of ram...but i can only go up to 1024x768
[08:22] <BMT> screen res
[08:22] <BMT> i am sure i can go more than that
[08:22] <BMT> please help
[08:23] <_aaa> detra, i'm new ,you'll have to ask a more techy person, I'm sorry...
[08:23] <supercool330> No server desktop version didn't cahnge any run level shit just started it from grub and some shit about not having a monitor came up and then it spit out the cammand prompt
[08:23] <swiftnomad> yes but what kind of gfx card do you have?
[08:23] <mahendra> hi there
[08:23] <BMT> intel
[08:23] <mahendra> i'm new here
[08:23] <detra> Nvidia install says it can't find my kernel.h ... Why ?
[08:23] <_aaa> hi
[08:23] <mahendra> wasup?
[08:23] <GNine> somebody give supercool that command line to start gui
[08:24] <swiftnomad> I have quad core and mb ram.. but my res lies in my dual monitors and gfx card.
[08:24] <|brad|> BMT, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:24] <swiftnomad> 2gb ram
[08:24] <BMT> thanks @ swiftnomad
[08:24] <BMT> let me try that out
[08:25] <|brad|> supercool330, anyway you can post the exact error?
[08:25] <swiftnomad> where you from BMT
[08:25] <Jaggz1> what happens if I do:  apt-get dist-upgrade   on a ubuntu system?
[08:25] <sauvin> Ubuntu Feisty. AMD Turion 64 (laptop). Kqemu no go?
[08:25] <|brad|> jaggz1, it updates your system
[08:26] <Doitle> I have a really... seems kinda pointless ubuntu question. On my desktop here I have Keep Aligned checked. However my icons... they aren't lined up. It doesn't seem to do anything if I enable keep aligned or turn it off... Is that feature not working or something?
[08:26] <Guest15457> yyeesss
[08:26] <GNine> !pastebin | supercool330
[08:26] <ubotu> supercool330: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[08:26] <Doitle> Can I change the grid size maybe? I suppose the grid could just be crazy small
[08:26] <BMT> what is 'sudo'
[08:26] <BMT>  ?
[08:26] <BMT> i am using feisty
[08:26] <Guest15457> can i pm a guru?
[08:26] <supercool330> Um no I have restarted my comp like3 times besides it was gargantuous and the entire screen was reblaced by ASCII chars except some shit in the middle which is where the acutall message was writin
[08:26] <GNine> sudo is a karate move
[08:26] <Jaggz1> I wonder how much it'll break on my 2.5 year old system
[08:27] <BMT> what is 'sudo' in linux /
[08:27] <BMT>  ?
[08:27] <|brad|> Guest15457, ask in channel. someone might have the same question as you
[08:27] <Jaggz1> apt-get doesn't have a hoary repository anymore anyway
[08:27] <supercool330> I think the monitor settings are wrong I am reading that post like at the top of this page
[08:27] <GNine> just kidding.. sudo gives you super user .. powers
[08:27] <bart_> I dont have a title bar, this is my xorg.conf file: http://www.pastebin.ca/697066 what should I change?
[08:27] <Guest15457> d
[08:27] <bart_> I dont have a title bar, this is my xorg.conf file: http://www.pastebin.ca/697066 what should I change?
[08:27] <Jaggz1> bmt, man sudo!  :)
[08:27] <BMT> cant i just go su root ?
[08:27] <Parkin_m> sudo root
[08:27] <|brad|> BMT, https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/administrative/C/
[08:27] <Reaper> ok i'm trying to run ubuntu on my laptop
[08:27] <|brad|> sudo -i, will give you a shell as root
[08:27] <bart_> I don have a title bar anymore after I installed compiz.
[08:27] <bart_> I dont have a title bar, this is my xorg.conf file: http://www.pastebin.ca/697066 what should I change?
[08:27] <Reaper> and something goes wrong during the setup
[08:27] <swiftnomad> sudo su
[08:28] <swiftnomad> than just run as root. alot easier.
[08:28] <slimjimflim> i sit safe to disable rsync?
[08:28] <|brad|> bart_, did you start emerald?
[08:28] <swiftnomad> bart_ you can restart X
[08:28] <bart_> I dont know, just compiz
[08:28] <slimjimflim> *is it safe to disable rsync
[08:28] <GNine> brad.. dont be giving out potentially hazardous info to noobs
[08:28] <Reaper> is leaves a funky screen
[08:28] <GNine> :-P
[08:28] <bart_> swiftnomad: why I should -.-' I changed nothing
[08:28] <_luks> does XubuntuFeisty have Compiz and Restricted Drivers ?
[08:28] <Reaper> ubuntu@ubuntu~$
[08:28] <swiftnomad> What installation tut did you use?
[08:28] <Reaper> thats hwat it leaves me at
[08:28] <swiftnomad> because I had the SAME problem.
[08:28] <GNine> hell.. am a noob.. i know not to mess with root
[08:29] <bart_> the default one
[08:29] <BMT> ok..i ran this...
[08:29] <BMT> sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.custom
[08:29] <BMT> sudo sh -c 'md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum'
[08:29] <BMT> and go this...
[08:29] <|brad|> GNine, its was in the doc i linked... out of the ubuntu docs
[08:29] <bart_> I dont have a title bar, this is my xorg.conf file: http://www.pastebin.ca/697066 what should I change?
[08:29] <GNine> 10-4
[08:29] <slimjimflim> *is it safe to disable rsync
[08:29] <GNine> just saying
[08:29] <_luks> does XubuntuFeisty have Compiz and Restricted Drivers ?
[08:29] <bart_> #compiz
[08:29] <Reaper> anyone get that?
[08:29] <swiftnomad> Reaper1
[08:29] <swiftnomad> !!!
[08:30] <Reaper> ok
[08:30] <Reaper> 6.06
[08:30] <Reaper> desktop edition
[08:30] <swiftnomad> Reaper, james?
[08:30] <swiftnomad> DMZ?
[08:30] <bart_> #beryl
[08:30] <Reaper> huh?
[08:31] <BMT> ok...great...
[08:31] <BMT> i got a terminal window..and it's blue
[08:31] <BMT> asking for the x server driver
[08:31] <swiftnomad> sorry, I see alot of people I speak to on MSN  & forums.. that people use same alais.
[08:31] <swiftnomad> here on irc
[08:31] <BMT> isn't the i128, i740, and the i810
[08:31] <BMT> intel drivers ?
[08:31] <Reaper> oh
[08:31] <|brad|> yes those are intel drivers
[08:31] <Reaper> no i just always use Grimm or Reaper
[08:32] <Reaper> well got any help for me?
[08:32] <bart_> I dont have a title bar, this is my xorg.conf file: http://www.pastebin.ca/697066 what should I change?
[08:32] <BMT> how do i know what one to use ?
[08:32] <GNine> i810 is intel
[08:32] <swiftnomad> ah.
[08:32] <|brad|> bart_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[08:32] <Longfellow> Hello All
[08:32] <|brad|> bart_, or ask in #ubuntu-effects
[08:32] <fatcatmatt> i got a question.  right after i log in, the background is a certain color, then it shows my desktop.  how do i change that background
[08:32] <bart_> brad, ok
[08:32] <Flannel> Reaper: This is after the install (and subsequent reboot?) or while you're trying to boot the liveCD?
[08:32] <|brad|> BMT, run lspci and see what video card you have
[08:33] <Longfellow> Does anyone know an easy way to run Ubuntu with VMware on Windows Vista?
[08:33] <GNine> desktop effects are offtopic in this channel
[08:33] <GNine> just so you know
[08:33] <Longfellow> I have the Ubuntu install CD 7.04
[08:33] <UDZGuru> is there a way to install ubuntu so that it installs the boot loader onto a floppy disk and doesn't touch the master boot record?
[08:33] <BMT> is there a way to 'pipe' lspci to a text file ?
[08:33] <Longfellow> Does anyone know an easy way to run Ubuntu with VMware on Windows Vista?
[08:33] <Flannel> UDZGuru: Alternate CD will allow you to install no bootloader at all
[08:33] <fatcatmatt> longfellow: i would run vista inside ubuntu, not ubuntu inside vista.  i tried, ran like crap, and i have a powerful laptop
[08:33] <slimjimflim> can someone tell me if it's safe to disable rsync?
[08:33] <Flannel> BMT: lspci > file.txt
[08:33] <|brad|> lspci > lspci.txt
[08:33] <BMT> thanks
[08:34] <Longfellow> I have a pretty fast computer so im not worried about that
[08:34] <Reaper> flannel - emm, it loads a bunch of things on a black screen then goes to a funky screen and says there was some problem and would i like to diagnose it
[08:34] <fatcatmatt> it should be easy to setup, longfellow
[08:34] <Longfellow> I want to keep Vista as my primary OS and Ubuntu through VMWare
[08:34] <fatcatmatt> vista blows tho, longfellow
[08:34] <Flannel> Reaper: This is the first boot after you put the CD in, right?
[08:34] <UDZGuru> i read in the wiki about the alternate installation. but there was no mention of controlling the installation of a bootloader. that's why i'm asking
[08:34] <Longfellow> Whats the best way to install it through VMWare though?
[08:34] <Flannel> UDZGuru: Yes, the alt CD does.
[08:34] <Longfellow> im cant seem to figure it out
[08:34] <GNine> the funky screen is the fix the xserver cue
[08:35] <Reaper> flannel - yea
[08:35] <fatcatmatt> standard, longfellow
[08:35] <BMT> my Display controller is : Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[08:35] <fatcatmatt> .iso it up and do it that way, longfellow
[08:35] <Longfellow> the only options I have in VMware is Open and Download
[08:35] <Longfellow> ok
[08:35] <fatcatmatt> do open then
[08:35] <rockets> You know what would kick butt, a way to make totem-gstreamer fall back to totem-xine when it cant play something, or vice versa
[08:35] <Longfellow> know any good programs to create ISOs?
[08:35] <fatcatmatt> yeah, magiciso
[08:35] <rockets> Longfellow, acetoneiso
[08:35] <Longfellow> kk ty
[08:35] <astro76> Longfellow, go to easyvmx.com and create an empty virtual machine, open with vmware player, and install ubuntu into it
[08:36] <swiftnomad> I'd never use windows again. Im not a gamer so I have no reason to dual boot. linux ftw
[08:36] <BMT>  my Display controller is : Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[08:36] <progek> anyone know where I can find a older version of frostwire? I'm looking for the 4.13.1 branch
[08:36] <Flannel> Reaper: from what it looks like, you're having graphics card problems.  Try installing with the alternate CD, after installation, you'll be able to wrestle with your xorg settings to get it to work.
[08:36] <GNine> thats funny. i got the gstreamer and gxine working together
[08:36] <Longfellow> yeah im a big gamer, so windows for me, but i'd like to get ubuntu in VMware
[08:36] <Reaper> here let me show you where i type from in the black window
[08:36] <Reaper> here
[08:36] <Reaper>                                  here
[08:37] <Reaper>                                                                    here
[08:37] <Reaper>                                                                                here
[08:37] <Reaper>               here
[08:37] <Reaper>                                                    here
[08:37] <Flannel> Reaper: stop that.
[08:37] <logicalbomb> is there anyway to use custom start up processes?
[08:37] <BMT> can anyone help me with this :  my Display controller is : Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller
[08:37] <GNine> lol
[08:37] <fatcatmatt> haha reaper
[08:37] <Reaper> flannel get what i'm saying?
[08:37] <BMT> trying to get past the 1024x768 screen res
[08:37] <Flannel> Reaper: What on earth are you even talking about?  No, I dont
[08:37] <|brad|> BMT, what driver are you currently using
[08:37] <Myrtti> what on earth
[08:37] <|brad|> BMT, did you look at that link i sent you?
[08:37] <Reaper> but instead of saying "here" it says ubuntu@ubuntu~$
[08:37] <GNine> thats a nice res, bmt
[08:38] <BMT> yes i am following that
[08:38] <logicalbomb> if I wanted gdesklets to load on start up how would I get that to happen?
[08:38] <Flannel> Reaper: It gives you the prompt over and over again?
[08:38] <logicalbomb> and what causes slow start up?
[08:38] <serif> i have ubuntu 7.04 on my asus A6M series laptop.howto integrated usb webcab?
[08:38] <rockets> Anybody know how I can compile something into a deb?
[08:38] <BMT> i have a termainl window with a blue screen asking for the driver
[08:38] <BMT> i don't know what one to pic
[08:38] <Flannel> !checkinstall | rockets
[08:38] <ubotu> rockets: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!
[08:38] <swiftnomad> pick
[08:38] <serif> webcam?
[08:38] <|brad|> what are you currently using? do you know
[08:38] <BMT> what driver ?
[08:38] <rockets> Flannel, hmm, is it hard to use
[08:38] <BMT> i don't know
[08:38] <Reaper> flannel - whenever i hit enter
[08:39] <BMT> i did a lspci to tell me what type of video i have on this gateway laptop
[08:39] <rockets> so i do checkinstall -D make install?
[08:39] <Flannel> rockets: no, just like normal compiling, more or less.  That page has all the instructions.
[08:39] <GNine> 1024x768 is good for web browsing and reading and stuff.. anything higher and youll have to use glasses to read your screen
[08:39] <Flannel> Reaper: That is odd.  No idea what's causing that.  But again, alt CD will allow you to install, and then you can wrestle with getting X up afterwards.
[08:39] <Jaggz1> anyone use Ubuntu server?
[08:39] <BMT> i want highere than 1024x768
[08:39] <Reaper> flannel - how do i use this alternate cd?
[08:40] <console-> i run 1280x1024
[08:40] <serif> any help to my webcam ?
[08:40] <|brad|> BMT, cd into /etc/x11/ then run cat xorg.conf | grep -i driver
[08:40] <Flannel> Reaper: just like the otehr CD, only instead of booting to a liveCD, it'll boot straight to the installer.  The alternate CD is available at the same place you got the Desktop CD
[08:40] <upgrayedd> <-- webcamless also.. think i need to recompile kernel. but dont feel like it.
[08:40] <GNine> that a logical resolution right there.. but on 19inches?   console-?
[08:41] <logicalbomb> can anyone tell me how to utilize the linux-686 kernel
[08:41] <logicalbomb> I did the sudo apt-get install linux-686
[08:41] <upgrayedd> can anybody tell me why g3d isnt building into /usr/local/
[08:41] <logicalbomb> but I want to make sure it's the one being used
[08:42] <d-media> any one know where to get free webpages through colleges like personal web space or does anyone have account through one?
[08:42] <Reaper> flannel - should i use 6.06 or 7.04
[08:42] <fatcatmatt> reaper: 7.04
[08:42] <Reaper> flannel - will this get rid of whatevers on my comp now?
[08:43] <Flannel> Reaper: You'll be able to partition however you'd like.  Whether thats erasing the whole drive, or not
[08:43] <astro76> logicalbomb, there is no more linux-686 (the package exists for upgrades), Ubuntu just uses generic now
[08:43] <BMT> i am currently using i810
[08:43] <BMT> that is amazing to me
[08:43] <Reaper> flannel - when should i partition, before or after installing?
[08:43] <BMT> learning a lot tonight
[08:43] <supercool330> OK here is the error I'm getting Failed to start the X server. Then I also get Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.
[08:43] <crackintosh_> is there a linux utility for batch renaming filenames?
[08:43] <GNine> i810 worked fine for me too
[08:43] <Reaper> flannel - and 6.06 or 7.04
[08:44] <logicalbomb> astro76:  So I should remove it because it doesn't matter?  Because I installed it and restarted
[08:44] <BMT> but GNine using this i810 i can't get no high than 1024x768
[08:44] <abhibera> Which is less hassle free ATI or Nvidia? I am planning to buy a Vostro. I was choosing b/w the 1000 and 1400 series. The 1000 comes with Athlon 64 X2 and a 256MB ATI Radeon X1150. The 1400 has Core2Duo with an option of Intel X3100 or NVidia 8400GS 128MB. so what should i pick for ubuntu? i'm looking at value for money. the laptop will not be used for gaming. only will be used for development purposes.
[08:44] <faileas> Nvidia
[08:44] <GNine> can your monitor physically support any higher than that
[08:44] <faileas> uually
[08:44] <Flannel> Reaper: Partition before installation if you can.  Don't create the new partitions, just create freespace.  Create the linux partitions in the installer itself.
[08:45] <faileas> *Usually
[08:45] <|brad|> BMT, sudo cat xorg.conf | grep -i defaultdepth
[08:45] <Flannel> Reaper: as for 6.06 or 7.04, that's up to you.  You'll probably want 7.04 though.
[08:45] <|brad|> BMT, what does that say? 24?
[08:45] <Reaper> ok
[08:45] <BMT> @GNine...i would expect it would
[08:45] <BMT> a two processor laptop with a ultrabright wisescreen
[08:45] <astro76> logicalbomb, yes you can remove it
[08:45] <BMT> and 2 gigs of ram
[08:45] <BMT> why wouldn't it ?
[08:45] <astro76> logicalbomb, there's basically nothing in it
[08:45] <BernieMac> reaper you may have to use partition magic or gpart
[08:45] <rockets> nvr mind the package i want to install has a make uninstall
[08:45] <logicalbomb> astro76:  what about custom start up processes?  Can I launch programs on start up?
[08:46] <Kool-Aid> Oh goodie
[08:46] <BMT> to brad....what is 24 ?
[08:46] <Kool-Aid> I've been unbanned!
[08:46] <astro76> !boot | logicalbomb
[08:46] <BernieMac> the ubuntu partitioner would not work for me, only gpart would
[08:46] <ubotu> logicalbomb: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[08:46] <abhibera> faileas: was that a response for me?
[08:46] <|brad|> BMT, sudo cat xorg.conf | grep -i defaultdepth  <--- did you run that command?
[08:46] <upgrayedd> crackintosh_ try something like python import os import glop files = glop.glop *.txt for each in files os"instructions of rename"
[08:46] <BMT> oh......you must be talking about 1024x768
[08:46] <BMT> yes i did @ brad
[08:46] <GNine> yeah.. it would.. so.. i guess you should try xserver to go 32 bit and adjust screen resolution.. i still like 24bit
[08:46] <|brad|> ok
[08:46] <logicalbomb> I am using bum but it's a GUI ap that doesn't allow me to add custom startups
[08:46] <BMT> but wait no i didn't hold on
[08:46] <|brad|> ok
[08:46] <nanonyme> BMT, that's a bad way to talk to people. it might not hilight in a client
[08:47] <crackintosh_> haha upgrayedd
[08:47] <faileas> abhibera: yeah
[08:47] <nanonyme> use the nick as the first word
[08:47] <upgrayedd> has anyone here installed http://g3d-cpp.sourceforge.net/ ?
[08:47] <BMT> oh ok..thanks nanonyme
[08:47] <faileas> abhibera: though, ATI might be opening up specs soon
[08:47] <BMT> by no means do i want to disrespect anyone on here
[08:47] <abhibera> faileas: hmmmm :|
[08:47] <BMT> i am enjoying myself too much
[08:47] <abhibera> faileas: but which will give me less hassle?
[08:48] <nanonyme> BMT, it's not that, some people just might not notice what you say when they're not hilighted on this active a channel
[08:48] <faileas> abhibera: nvidia is 2 clicks to install drivers pretty much
[08:48] <plowdawg> does anyoe here use the gaim-latex plugin?
[08:48] <rockets> whats a good xine frontend other then totem or gxine
[08:48] <rockets> and kaffeine
[08:49] <upgrayedd> it compiles fine, but after           ./buildg3d install /usr/local           nothing is located in that directory
[08:49] <BMT> ok
[08:49] <abhibera> faileas: is there any point in saving a couple of hundred dollars and going in for the Dell Vostro 1000?
[08:49] <GNine> those ARE the good ones
[08:49] <GNine> lol
[08:49] <abhibera> faileas: it has an AMD Athlon X2 and ATI 256 X1150
[08:49] <Longfellow> Anyone know any free programs to create isos in windows?
[08:49] <abhibera> faileas: i plan to run only Ubuntu on it NO WINDOZE
[08:49] <faileas> abhiberaL i am not a fan of dells. IBM all the way for me ;p
[08:50] <faileas> Longfellow: #windows would be the place to aks that
[08:50] <faileas> ;p
[08:50] <Longfellow> Ok, sorry abotu that
[08:50] <|brad|> faileas, thinkpads are awesome
[08:50] <upgrayedd> i bought the xeon duo @ 1.8 and OC to 3.0ghz
[08:50] <rockets> GNine, yeah but i need totem-gstreamer, kaffeine sucks horribly, and so does gxine
[08:50] <rockets> im going to try codine
[08:50] <|brad|> rockets, vlc?
[08:50] <faileas> Longfellow: answer though, is imgburn
[08:50] <rockets> |brad|, thats not a vlc frontend
[08:50] <rockets> |brad|, xine frontend rather
[08:50] <abhibera> faileas: ibm is freakin expensive here. so i have to opt for a dell. it's cheaper for u guys in US
[08:50] <GNine> gxine works.. it might not have a sweet looking interface but it does the job
[08:50] <|brad|> why does it have to be xine?
[08:50] <faileas> i'm not in US
[08:51] <faileas> i'm in singapore. have had my thinkpad for 4 years or so
[08:51] <rockets> |brad|, it doesnt, i already have totem-gstreamer and vlc, i like to have xine as well because theres always at least one thing that i can only get one of the three to play
[08:51] <|brad|> ah
[08:51] <upgrayedd> <--- hopeless
[08:51] <rockets> I prefer xine, and i would use totem-xine if i could have totem-gstreamer side by side
[08:52] <rockets> the reason i wont use gxine is because it has a horrible playlist functionality
[08:52] <rockets> VLC and Totem have great playlist funtionality
[08:52] <GNine> tru
[08:52] <Syonyde> Hello
[08:52] <rockets> and by great, i mean i can drag folders on to it, not just files
[08:53] <rockets> ah and codeine has NO playlist functionality. fantastic.
[08:53] <BMT> i am going to assume after going thru setting up the driver using i128....all i have to is restart right ?
[08:53] <rockets> kaffeine it is.
[08:53] <GNine> good luck
[08:53] <BMT> thanks
[08:53] <|brad|> just restart x
[08:53] <GNine> kaffeine didnt like me
[08:53] <|brad|> you dont have to reboot the whole machine
[08:53] <rockets> Ok . . .kaffeine-gstreamer  . . . what the hell . . .
[08:53] <rockets> that makes ZERO sense.
[08:53] <BMT> too late ...lol
[08:54] <rockets> might as well have a totem-artsd plugin
[08:54] <upgrayedd> i wish we had a good gtk+ video & sound player.
[08:54] <|brad|> isnt i810 the driver you are supposed to use tho?
[08:54] <BMT> i ran into a problem guys
[08:54] <upgrayedd> me 2! ;P
[08:54] <BMT> almost looks like the BSOD from windoze
[08:54] <rockets> Why does kaffeine-gstreamer require kaffeine-xine
[08:55] <|brad|> BMT, does it say something about no screens found?
[08:55] <BMT> no
[08:55] <Poul|Raider> anyone who are good at sound devices. i had my sound working shortly but after a reboot i just cant get it playing again.
[08:55] <BMT> the gui is no disabled
[08:55] <|brad|> !alsa
[08:55] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[08:55] <BMT> and i am at a command prompt
[08:55] <HELPMEEEEEE> OMG!
[08:55] <Poul|Raider> useing pcm output from a onboard sound carc
[08:55] <HELPMEEEEEE> I CANT FIGURE THIS OUT
[08:55] <Poul|Raider> card
[08:56] <HELPMEEEEEE> HOW DO I GET MS OFFICE INSTALLED?!
[08:56] <|brad|> HELPMEEEEEE, lose the caps
[08:56] <faileas> !caps > HELPMEEEEEE
[08:56] <Poul|Raider> i got alsa selected
[08:56] <HELPMEEEEEE> this staroffice thing is a piece of crap
[08:56] <|brad|> then dont use it
[08:56] <HELPMEEEEEE> im running live cd? and i need to install office
[08:56] <Kool-Aid> HellDragon, Crossover Office
[08:56] <faileas> HELPMEEEEEE: older versions work in wine.
[08:56] <UDZGuru> install openoffice :D
[08:56] <HELPMEEEEEE> WHAT IS THAT?!
[08:56] <BernieMac> How can I stop a non-terminating code in terminal?
[08:57] <|brad|> ctrl+c ?
[08:57] <GNine> openoffice comes with feisty ,, wth
[08:57] <astro76> HELPMEEEEEE, openoffice comes installed on the livecd, and quit with the caps
[08:57] <upgrayedd> openoffices!
[08:57] <faileas> BernieMac: control C
[08:57] <faileas> HELPMEEEEEE: cut out the caps
[08:57] <BernieMac> alright, thanks!
[08:57] <upgrayedd> cut the cRaps ;P
[08:58] <faileas> GNine: actually i'm the spy ;p
[08:58] <GNine> dammit
[08:58] <abhibera> faileas: it's cheaper there too
[08:58] <upgrayedd> lol
[08:58] <faileas> ( -faileas- VERSION xchat 2.6.8-1 Windows XP [Intel /1.40GHz]  )
[08:59] <faileas> abhibera: one thing i'd be concerned about with is wifi
[09:00] <BMT> ok i went thru the whle thing again.this time going back to my old driver
[09:00] <BMT> the i810
[09:00] <Stanley> Alright, this is fricking annoying.
[09:00] <BMT> isn't it startx
[09:00] <abhibera> faileas: why?
[09:00] <upgrayedd> I cannot get the stupid g3d Librarys to install properly.. i think... im not sure anymore :-,
[09:00] <BMT> to start the gui
[09:00] <abhibera> faileas: the dell cards are supported. u gotta dig a well to get them working
[09:00] <Stanley> When ever I open a new window, it opens it so the title bar is just out of reach on the top of my screen. If I move it, it reopens it in the same place
[09:00] <BMT> ok i got it.i think
[09:01] <BMT> startx
[09:01] <upgrayedd> *snot running out of nose*
[09:01] <rockets> ugh gstreamer is so bad at rendering video
[09:01] <rockets> if you zoom in at all it goes totally pixelated
[09:01] <faileas> abhibera: cause drivers for that on linux arn't always too easy to get working, even when they have FOSS drivers
[09:01] <rockets> no blending
[09:02] <GNine> mess with the video pluggin.. u might find something in there
[09:02] <rockets> you cant . . . . totem has no settings
[09:02] <GNine> sorry i dont sound too technical..  am a slacker
[09:03] <rockets> i'll just have to wait for gstreamer0.11
[09:03] <GNine> and am sleepy too
[09:03] <Kool-Aid> GNine, 'slacker' as in Slackware user?
[09:03] <gusto5> i have an odd, BAD problem
[09:03] <gusto5> anyone want to lend a hand?
[09:03] <naim> Hello
[09:03] <rockets> GNine, i found something
[09:03] <HELPMEEEEEE> no
[09:03] <HELPMEEEEEE> i was first
[09:03] <|brad|> slackware was fun
[09:03] <naim> Hey!
[09:03] <naim> Hey!
[09:03] <gusto5> when i run sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf the file is blank =(
[09:03] <HELPMEEEEEE> how do i get notepad up?
[09:04] <naim> Can You HELP ME!?
[09:04] <naim> Can You HELP ME!?
[09:04] <|brad|> gusto5, just ask
[09:04] <naim> Can You HELP ME!?
[09:04] <Myrtti> behave!
[09:04] <naim> Can You HELP ME!?
[09:04] <Kool-Aid> |brad|, you switched over to Ubuntu from Slackware?
[09:04] <naim> Can You HELP ME!?
[09:04] <|brad|> naim, thats enough
[09:04] <naim> Can You HELP ME!?
[09:04] <HELPMEEEEEE> omg!
[09:04] <HELPMEEEEEE> OMG!
[09:04] <HELPMEEEEEE> SWEET MOTHER
[09:04] <gusto5> and im staring thinking wth is this
[09:04] <HELPMEEEEEE> OF
[09:04] <HELPMEEEEEE> GOD
[09:04] <|brad|> Kool-Aid, yes after many years
[09:04] <naim> Can You HELP ME!?
[09:04] <GNine> dammit.. not again
[09:04] <faileas> gawd, whats with all the braindead people today
[09:04] <Kool-Aid> |brad|, why?
[09:04] <Doitle> This is nuts
[09:04] <gusto5> i do have a xorg.confbackup
[09:04] <Myrtti> next?
[09:04] <|brad|> Kool-Aid, i got tired of such poor package mgmt
[09:04] <gusto5> but this makes absolutely no sense as i can get into ubuntu
[09:04] <|brad|> with ubuntu i can just use it
[09:05] <faileas> gusto5: maybe its a placeholder?
[09:05] <|brad|> i dont have to compile everything myself
[09:05] <naim> Why Kino Can't Export Dv Files When I Try To Open Media File?
[09:05] <|brad|> anymore
[09:05] <gusto5> faileas, what does that mean?
[09:05] <naim> Why Kino Can't Export Dv Files When I Try To Open Media File?
[09:05] <Kool-Aid> |brad|, I haven't had to compile anything in a long while
[09:05] <Myrtti> naim: stop repeating
[09:05] <faileas> means it there cause its expected to be there, but there dosen't need to be anything there?
[09:05] <rockets> How do I enable Xv?
[09:05] <naim> JUST HELP ME!
[09:05] <naim> Hellow!?
[09:05] <gusto5> faileas, it doesnt need xorg.conf in /etc/x11/xorg.conf?!
[09:05] <Myrtti> !attitude | naim
[09:05] <HELPMEEEEEE> SWEET
[09:05] <upgrayedd> Instructions are....      buildg3d install <targetdir>         but after the build.. nothing was placed in Target Directory.. Its compiling with iCompile  could this be bug under ubuntu ?
[09:06] <ubotu> naim: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:06] <HELPMEEEEEE> MAN!
[09:06] <HELPMEEEEEE> HELP ME!
[09:06] <|brad|> naim, no one is going to help you cause you are acting crazy
[09:06] <faileas> gusto5: everything works right?
[09:06] <HELPMEEEEEE> I NEED WORD OR NOTEPAD
[09:06] <Myrtti> !attitude | HELPMEEEEEE
[09:06] <ubotu> HELPMEEEEEE: The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[09:06] <gusto5> faileas, yeah, but now i cant edit the file
[09:06] <HELPMEEEEEE> or WRITE
[09:06] <naim> -__-"
[09:06] <gusto5> i want to manually add new resolutions
[09:06] <GNine> holy smucks
[09:06] <faileas> HELPMEEEEEE: install wine. it has notepad
[09:06] <Myrtti> I'm getting REALLY REALLY angry soon
[09:06] <Myrtti> so BEHAVE
[09:06] <HELPMEEEEEE> I
[09:06] <HELPMEEEEEE> Am
[09:06] <HELPMEEEEEE> So
[09:06] <HELPMEEEEEE> UPSET
[09:06] <faileas> gusto5: ran it with sudo?
[09:06] <HELPMEEEEEE> RAWR
[09:06] <faileas> ...
[09:06] <gusto5> faileas, yes lol
[09:07] <HELPMEEEEEE> BoogieBooGA!
[09:07] <faileas> HELPMEEEEEE: quit being a pain in the ass
[09:07] <|brad|> get em Myrtti :)
[09:07] <Myrtti> HELPMEEEEEE: this is the *final* warning
[09:07] <faileas> gusto5: memory fails me, but there's a config script for that called  by apt
[09:07] <|brad|> Kool-Aid, so you are a slackware user?
[09:07] <Stanley> Is it possible to tell dpkg that I have the package one package depends on and use the .deb file
[09:07] <gusto5> even tried sudo su first, then sudo gedit /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[09:07] <GreenDay> Hey?
[09:07] <gusto5> yeah, the one that lets me reconfigure X server?
[09:07] <notv> hello i followed a tutorial to install an fglrx driver but i get an (EE) no matching modes and i dont see fglrx in my /var/log/xorg.0.log
[09:07] <faileas> HELPMEEEEEE: alternately try kate or gedit. they are similar to notepad
[09:08] <Stanley> Both of the packages rely on each other.
[09:08] <Poul|Raider> I had my sound working, then after a reboot it was just gone?
[09:08] <faileas> gusto5: ja
[09:08] <GreenDay> Hellow?
[09:08] <|brad|> gusto5, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:08] <BMT> ok i am restarting my laptop now m!
[09:08] <gusto5> thanks |brad| i gives that a shot first
[09:08] <faileas> yeah that ;p
[09:08] <Myrtti> !hello | GreenDay
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hello - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <Myrtti> heh
[09:08] <|brad|> faileas, :)
[09:08] <faileas> (between 2 distros and windows, its a pain to remember)
[09:08] <imgood> Who is this helpmeee person?
[09:08] <upgrayedd> ubotu g3d
[09:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about g3d - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:08] <BMT> ok guys it didn't work
[09:08] <imgood> I am a chap young lady that needs assistance
[09:09] <Myrtti> imgood: behave
[09:09] <imgood> if any good soul would mind offering a helping hand
[09:09] <Myrtti> !ask | imgood
[09:09] <ubotu> imgood: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:09] <aftertaf> ask your question
[09:09] <GNine> ask uno question
[09:09] <plowdawg> this place is like a petting zoo right now
[09:09] <upgrayedd> imgood have you tried openoffice ?
[09:10] <imgood> i need word or notepad because i have a progress report for my senior project for the cheerleader squad ad my local high school which i was held back and now i am legal
[09:10] <imgood> recognize.
[09:10] <upgrayedd> lol.
[09:10] <RyanR> lol
[09:10] <Myrtti> imgood: you were given some options just a while back
[09:10] <GNine> send pictures, imgood
[09:10] <Myrtti> imgood: read your backlog, please
[09:10] <rockets> GNine, hey i fixed it!
[09:10] <imgood> ok
[09:10] <Myrtti> imgood: and stop trolling
[09:10] <|brad|> GNine, dont feed him
[09:11] <faileas> imgood: you were given a few possibilities. if your not gonna bloody try them, there's no point asking for help on a channel
[09:11] <imgood> what is this trolling you speak of?
[09:11] <rockets> GNine, I enabled Xv in xorg.conf and then told gstreamer to use Xv and now the video looks fantastic!
[09:11] <plowdawg> we are all locked in a petting zoo
[09:11] <GNine> sorry.. i like jumpin girls in trampolines.. whats new rockets
[09:11] <Myrtti> imgood: puhleez
[09:11] <rockets> GNine, ...
[09:11] <notv> can someone help me with this driver?
[09:11] <upgrayedd> moooo.. pet me
[09:11] <GNine> sweet , rockets
[09:11] <imgood> i need a driver
[09:11] <notv> i have no gui
[09:11] <imgood> i gotta goto the prom
[09:11] <imgood> 5 dollah
[09:11] <GNine> thats why i like messing with .. linux
[09:11] <Myrtti> imgood: have a nice one then
[09:11] <aftertaf> imgood: ask a real question or stop trolling
[09:12] <rockets> wow gstreamer is no longer useless!
[09:12] <imgood> ok ok
[09:12] <imgood> i need word
[09:12] <rockets> screw you xine!
[09:12] <imgood> bad
[09:12] <Myrtti> this is getting tiresome
[09:12] <imgood> for my senior project
[09:12] <darx> hi folks.
[09:12] <imgood> word or notepad
[09:12] <rockets> now i just need totem and vlc
[09:12] <imgood> i can format it later
[09:12] <rockets> and mplayer of course.
[09:12] <imgood> or frontpage even
[09:12] <GreenDay> Hellow
[09:12] <Myrtti> !enter | imgood, rockets
[09:12] <ubotu> imgood, rockets: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!
[09:12] <imgood> mplayer would be nice
[09:12] <gusto5> |brad|, sorry, what was the command to reconfigure xserver again?
[09:12] <plowdawg> imgood: there are good alternatives.  there is no reason why you *need* word
[09:12] <imgood> but ill use winamp
[09:12] <GreenDay> There Anybody Know Kino!?
[09:12] <darx> I need to stop apache and mysql from running at startup.. how can I do so?
[09:12] <GreenDay> There Anybody Know Kino!?
[09:12] <aftertaf> imgood: use openoffice....
[09:12] <imgood> yea
[09:12] <rockets> !poop Myrtti
[09:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about poop myrtti - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <aftertaf> GreenDay: yep
[09:12] <|brad|> gusto5,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:12] <rockets> !poop | Myrtti
[09:12] <imgood> to type my homework
[09:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about poop - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <Myrtti> !repeat | GreenDay
[09:12] <ubotu> GreenDay: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[09:12] <GreenDay> I Have An a Question
[09:12] <upgrayedd> imgood.. open a terminal and type GEDIT.. if nothing happens type sudo apt-get isntall gedit... the type Gedit..
[09:12] <faileas> imgood: Openoffice for word. gedit or winepad for notepad. nvu or kompozer for 'frontpage'
[09:13] <GreenDay> I Have An a Question
[09:13] <imgood> where is terminal?
[09:13] <Doitle> Terminal is at Airport
[09:13] <plowdawg> or latex
[09:13] <Myrtti> /me counts slowly to ten
[09:13] <imgood> im alergic to latex
[09:13] <aftertaf> oh dear, i see we need some ops here to do some kicking......
[09:13] <ubuntu> why
[09:13] <plowdawg> he isn't here for help
[09:13] <faileas> plowdawg: anyone who asks for frontpahe on linux is gonna faint if they are asked to use latex ;)
[09:13] <Myrtti> aftertaf: I'm just getting fed up here
[09:14] <aftertaf> Myrtti: ignore...... i know me 2
[09:14] <GreenDay> When i open a media file, kino ask me if i want to import dv files, i click ok and then he give me error "Fail To Open "However.avi.dvi" Why he fail!?
[09:14] <Myrtti> aftertaf: I'm an op... you know.
[09:14] <plowdawg> faileas: haha but if they see a document rendered by latex they will also faint
[09:14] <aftertaf> GreenDay: do you have a question about kino, ??
[09:14] <plowdawg> faileas: then they will want to learn it
[09:14] <aftertaf> Myrtti: your selfcontrol impresses me, then ;)
[09:14] <faileas> plowdawg: i thought latex looksw great?
[09:14] <rockets> Anybody know a good app for just displaying info about a video? Encoding, bitrate, etc
[09:14] <plowdawg> faileas: that is what i meant
[09:14] <Myrtti> I always try to give them enough slack
[09:14] <plowdawg> faileas: it looks so great
[09:15] <aftertaf> rockets: konqueror shows this in the file details.....
[09:15] <faileas> but.. requires damn near black magic to run ;)
[09:15] <aftertaf> Myrtti: yeah, you're a jedi ;)
[09:15] <astro76> rockets, use the file command