[08:56] <NonaSuomi> Okay, with regards to my earlier fs problem, I'm pretty convinced to ditch exFAT, but what fs should I use? The drive is an external, USB 2.0, 2TB in size and will mostly be used for NAS purposes via SAMBA. I'm thinking it's between ext3/4, btrfs, and zfs, but I can't really seem to understand the pros and cons to each.
[08:56] <varunendra> moksud_xp, can you use sed command??
[08:56] <MonkeyDust> moksud_xp  the gui comes with a basic installation, what were you trying to do?
[08:56] <histo> moksud_xp: sounds like that particular repository is down
[08:56] <blazemore> NonaSuomi: If in doubt, just use ext4
[08:56] <hamvocke> my changes didn't change anything on my signal strength
[08:56] <moksud_xp> sincerly I don't know about sed command...
[08:56] <histo> moksud_xp: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and change the one that is erroring from it.archive.ubuntu.com  to archive.ubuntu.com for the time being
[08:57] <moksud_xp> I'm a Ubuntu user from yesterdaty
[08:57] <moksud_xp> okey, I need to change the source into what ?
[08:57] <varunendra> moksud_xp, try - "sudo sed -i 's:it.archive.ubuntu:archive.ubuntu:' /etc/apt/sources.list" (without the outer quotes)
[08:58] <histo> moksud_xp: or you could sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak && sudo sed -i 's/it.//' /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:58] <nbags> hamvocke:  i guess u were on the wrong track then, cause your changes did work, its connected at 54mbps now
[08:58] <varunendra> moksud_xp, basically, you need to remove the "it." part from the urls.  That means wireless n is not the cause of the problem apparently?
[08:59] <ActionPa1snip> histo: no 'g'?
[08:59] <histo> ActionPa1snip: not needed for what he is doing
[08:59] <NonaSuomi> Because I don't exactly have this system on a UPS, so I don't want to lose anything if/when the system died mid-write
[08:59] <blazemore> NonaSuomi: I don't know; I've never heard of that issue before. ext4 is the default filesystem for Ubuntu which is why I'm reocmmending it
[08:59] <ActionPa1snip> hamvocke: are there lots of wireless networks on the same channel as you are using?
[09:00] <nbags> hamvocke: guess so
[09:00] <varunendra> hamvocke, the "iwldvm" driver is not available in my 12.04 installation. Please also show us : "modinfo iwldvm | pastebinit"
[09:01] <hamvocke> might as well be a construction error then. I'm experiencing this problem with my new notebook
[09:01] <ActionPa1snip> histo: oh yeah, makes sense
[09:01] <Matthew_Moore> QUESTION:  when 13.10 comes out with Mir and this deep development stuff they keep talking about. should i upgrade from 13.04  or would it be a better idea to go back to 12.04 until they get the kinks sorted out?
[09:02] <ActionPa1snip> hamvocke: check surrounding networks and the channels they use, if you have lots on the same channel then that will cause it and you will need to switch channel
[09:02] <hamvocke> ActionPa1snip: no, maybe one other network on the same channel
[09:02] <histo> !better | Matthew_Moore
[09:02] <ActionPa1snip> Matthew_Moore: 13.10 questions in #ubuntu+1 please
[09:02] <nbags> hamvocke: sure. if you can check if the same problem exists on windows (if you have it) before suspecting a linux driver issue. and yeah, try different channels like ActionPa1snip says
[09:02] <ActionPa1snip> Matthew_Moore: If you want stability then use the LTS
[09:02] <hamvocke> varunendra: http://pastebin.com/tw6NXByx
[09:03] <nbags> ActionPa1snip: you can also try turning your AP on its side, or moving it around a bit if you can
[09:03] <nbags> hamvocke: ^^
[09:03] <hamvocke> I'm using 13.04 btw, just in case you guys didn't already figure that out from the context. Forgot to mention it initially.
[09:03] <Matthew_Moore> okie dokie.  i was curious what other peoples opinions were. cuz everything i read seems like this will be a very bumpy road ahead.
[09:04] <histo> hamvocke: if it's a new notebook perhaps the antenna cam unattached during shipping. Usually there is a door on the bottom of your laptop you can get access to the wireless card. I would look in there and make sure the two wires are attached.
[09:04] <histo> Matthew_Moore: If you don't want bumps then run LTS
[09:04] <varunendra> hamvocke, I asked for "modinfo iwldvm".... you posted the previous link :)
[09:04] <nbags> histo: ++ yeah try that if they didn't go and put a 'warranty void if removed' sticker on it like they did with my asus
[09:04] <nbags> hamvocke: ^^
[09:05] <Matthew_Moore> yes. but i also hate using older software when i know somthing newer is out there.  a little OCD i guess. drives me batty. :/
[09:05] <histo> Matthew_Moore: if it aint broke don't fix it
[09:05] <iceroot> Matthew_Moore: older does also mean more stable
[09:05] <hamvocke> varunendra: sorry, correct link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5846094/
[09:05] <nbags> Matthew_Moore: you could dual boot mint and ubuntu and debian. go to debian when you're annoyed at all the bugs and go back to ubuntu when you're annoyed at the old software
[09:06] <NikTh> New software - bleeding edge  and stable are not fit .
[09:06] <Matthew_Moore> well i left 12.04 becuase of the issues i had with that. Unity related things mostly.  having used it since 12.04.1  though
[09:07] <NikTh> Matthew_Moore: My situation here -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir/+bug/1196355  :P
[09:07] <hamvocke> histo, nbags: I think opening that thing up might be kind of troublesome. It's one of those compact ultrabook things. I doubt that I'll be able to reach any wire at all :)
[09:08] <hamvocke> but you have a point with trying a windows environment to verify this is a linux driver issue
[09:08] <nbags> hamvocke: histo is right though, it could just be a cable come loose.
[09:08] <Matthew_Moore> NikTh:  not a very good bug.   i have a really weird bug with all the new Ubuntu based distros with my screen Brightness changing itself everytime i open the settings manager.
[09:08] <varunendra> hamvocke, you said "...added the line "options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1"... does it mean the options file now contains multiple lines?
[09:09] <nbags> hamvocke: i swore i would never open this plastic asus thing again. i already broke a couple of clips upgrading the hdd
[09:09] <NikTh> Matthew_Moore: But I have an LTS also, to do stable tasks.. for everyday use (not just) ;)
[09:09] <hamvocke> if i installed windows in a VM and boot that in my ubuntu environment, will windows use its own drivers or will that somehow be wrapped by my ubuntu drivers?
[09:09] <hamvocke> varunendra: nope, just that line
[09:09] <NikTh> Matthew_Moore: Where is the bug report ?
[09:09] <nbags> varunendra: the options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1 worked for hamvocke ... i checked the output
[09:09] <nbags> hamvocke: no u need to boot windows natively
[09:10] <Matthew_Moore> i found three others just like it so i just have been commenting on those.
[09:10] <hamvocke> nbags: oh, damn. That'll be some nasty installation :/
[09:10] <varunendra> nbags, that speed can be variable at different times unless fixed by iwconfig
[09:10] <NikTh> Matthew_Moore: Good you participate. Is this an Nvidia card - Nvidia settings ?
[09:10] <Matthew_Moore> no. i have intel graphics.
[09:11] <nbags> varunendra: i suppose. but it was at 130mbps before hamvocke made the change, and 54mbps afterwards
[09:11] <Matthew_Moore> i also had an issue when i would dual boot. after booting into ubuntu the sound would be broken in windows. i would have to reset the bios every time to fix it.
[09:11] <Matthew_Moore> found 2 other bug reports on the same issue.  both on launchpad
[09:11] <varunendra> hamvocke, I'd suggest that you once more change that line to also include "swcrypto=1" parameter
[09:12] <Matthew_Moore> i dont know if its my imagination but Linux in general seems to be alot more problematic then it used to be. :(
[09:12] <varunendra> nbags, it definitely worked as expected, but didn't help as per hamvocke :(
[09:12] <hamvocke> varunendra: would the complete line then be "options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1 swcrypto=1"?
[09:12] <NikTh> Matthew_Moore: What is the status of the bugs you found ? Fix Released, Invalid ... what ?
[09:12] <varunendra> hamvocke, yes, exactly
[09:13] <nbags> varunendra: sure. i dont know anything about iwlwifi, just trying to help hamvocke to change module loading parameters
[09:13] <hamvocke> varunendra: alright, I'll give it a try and be back in a minute
[09:13] <varunendra> nbags, I'm no expert either.. ;)
[09:13] <NikTh> Matthew_Moore: Is not a matter of imagination or logic.. Linux is what a user feels it is.. At my opinion is more stable than Windows..
[09:13] <NikTh> Matthew_Moore:  I never had any problems.. :)
[09:14] <Matthew_Moore> Well i have been using Ubuntu since 08'  as time goes on things seem to slowley be getting more and more buggy.  and this opinion is not aimed at just Ubuntu.
[09:15] <ActionPa1snip> Matthew_Moore: how many desktop environments have you tried in each?
[09:15] <Matthew_Moore> all the poplar ones.  XFCE, KDE, GNome, Unity, CInamon, Mate.  LXDE.   none of that tiled stuff.
[09:16] <Matthew_Moore> i have the least amount of problems on KDE. but KDE is just so so ugly even after appliing themes
[09:17] <ActionPa1snip> Matthew_Moore: strange. I've been on LXDE since Natty and Gnome before that back to Gutsy and not seen much performance hit at all
[09:17] <Matthew_Moore> i am in no way speaking ill of Linux.  its still better then windows. i just know my experience with it has gotten worse over the last 2 years
[09:17] <nbags> Matthew_Moore: i feel that ubuntu desktop has become more bloated and buggy in the last five years too, but linux has gotten better and more stable in that time. when you add a lot of features and bleeding edge software to a distro you experience more bugs
[09:17] <NikTh> Matthew_Moore:  I agree with "slowly" . Things now are not as was 5-10 years ago. The requirements - users demands are more and OSs must follow. In order to follow, OSs must add more and more features..
[09:17] <bazhang> !ot | Matthew_Moore
[09:18] <ActionPa1snip> Matthew_Moore: Unity and Cinnamon aren't DEs :)
[09:18] <bazhang> lets get back to support please
[09:18] <Matthew_Moore> Well Most issues i run into are not specific to any one distro.  for example. every distro using Kernel 3.2 overheats my computer.  i had to wait until 3.7 for a fix.
[09:18] <histo> Matthew_Moore: so how is that getting worse?
[09:19] <moksud_xp> sorry I was far away from my pc and I didnt see answers
[09:19] <moksud_xp> someone can help me with the problem of updating packages ?
[09:19] <MonkeyDust> Matthew_Moore  discussions and opinions i #ubuntu-offtopic, please
[09:19] <Dynamit> dam if you guys have kernel problem compile the lates and install the latest one
[09:19] <bazhang> moksud_xp, change mirrors
[09:20] <bazhang> Dynamit, thats not good advice
[09:20] <hamvocke> back with swcrypto=1
[09:20] <NikTh> Dynamit: LoL
[09:20] <histo> moksud_xp: or you could sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.bak && sudo sed -i 's/it.//' /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:20] <hamvocke> here's a new wireless-info: http://pastebin.com/qdwFU3MD
[09:20] <hamvocke> still doesn't look much better now
[09:20] <Matthew_Moore> Well if you have to change your kernel to get it to work right i say that distro has failed. wouldnt you say?
[09:21] <histo> hamvocke: did you check the antenna connections yet?
[09:21] <bazhang> Matthew_Moore, thats offtopic
[09:21] <bazhang> Matthew_Moore, you've been asked several times now
[09:21] <Dynamit> bazhang: it is then it is not needed to wait for a repo to releas the kernel
[09:21] <histo> Matthew_Moore: You said it was fixed in newer kernels I would say that's progress
[09:21] <Matthew_Moore> ok ok. i know. sorry.
[09:21] <hamvocke> histo: no, not yet. I guess that will be a very tedious process, so I'll just want to make sure to have checked the other options first
[09:21] <Matthew_Moore> i get cought up in my thoughts somtimes. sorry
[09:22] <bazhang> Dynamit, there is a PPA for that, but compiling a kernel...with ubuntu...not good advice
[09:22] <histo> hamvocke: it's one screw
[09:22] <histo> not very tedious
[09:22] <histo> hamvocke: shutdown laptop flip it over remove wifi cover and inspect that antenna is connected.
[09:23] <ActionPa1snip> Matthew_Moore: works fine here
[09:24] <ActionPa1snip> moksud_xp: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[09:24] <hamvocke> histo: I'm afraid it's not that simple. I'm dealing with a Dell XPS 13 ultrabook here. I have to unscrew several torx screws to access any of the guts of that device. I'll search for a plan on how to access the wifi card right now, maybe you're right and it isn't a big deal despite the compact form factor
[09:24] <histo> hamvocke: no there should be a cover
[09:25] <histo> hamvocke: nvm not on that model
[09:26] <histo> hamvocke: http://blog.parts-people.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/XPS_13_Ultrabook_WLAN_Screw.jpg
[09:26] <hamvocke> histo: I've just found instructions on how to replace the wifi card in my device. I think I'll try this afterwards. But I need to make sure that I won't void my warranty
[09:26] <histo> hamvocke: those are the two wires
[09:26] <Matthew_Moore> Unity wont run with Kwin will it?   i use Kwin on XFCE becase i find it to be snappier and more stable then compiz. but kwin would break unity wouldnt it?
[09:26] <hamvocke> histo: yes, that's exactly what I've found
[09:26] <histo> hamvocke: do you still have the OS installed that it came with?
[09:26] <ActionPa1snip> Matthew_Moore: it may do, try it :)
[09:27] <hamvocke> histo: nope. It came with windows 8. I ditched it directly
[09:27] <iceroot> Matthew_Moore: you can install both but to run unity you need compiz and cant change that
[09:27] <iceroot> Matthew_Moore: also with 13.10 you may face problems mixing kubuntu and ubuntu because they will be use total different display-server
[09:28] <iceroot> Matthew_Moore: and kwin will NOT work with MIR only with Wayland/X11
[09:28] <histo> hamvocke: well... perhaps search askubuntu for your wireless chipset or launchpad and see if anyone has noticed a bug
[09:28] <hamvocke> histo: yeah, I've done so yesterday. All solutions pointed to disabling wireless n
[09:29] <wasanzy> do we have free cpanel version
[09:29] <Matthew_Moore> iceroot: i am aware of that.  i had a KDE developer on my youtube show previously. i am well aware of the direction of KDE.
[09:29] <histo> hamvocke: the other option is to try a newer module like one from intel
[09:30] <iceroot> Matthew_Moore: i ust think that kubuntu will be removed from the official ubuntu-familie (my opinion)
[09:30] <hamvocke> histo: I'm already using an Intel module. Or are you suggesting using a newer Intel module than I currently use?
[09:31] <varunendra> hamvocke, I'm not sure why, but people are also often advised to use channel 1 or 11 for better performance. Your current signal not only is weak, but also has more than average noise (was even more in previous outputs)
[09:31] <Matthew_Moore> what about K apps on Mir?  such as Kdenlive.  they use QT libraries. is KDE isnt developing for Mir wouldnt these apps and Libraries break?
[09:32] <hamvocke> histo: I'm a bit concerned that the wifi module might be troublesome, though. Dell also sells an ubuntu approved version of the XPS 13 (the so called "developer edition"). That version does not use an Intel module but some "Killer" wireless module. That developer edition was not available to me as a private customer in Germany though, so I bought a version with lower hardware specs
[09:32] <iceroot> Matthew_Moore: i guess #ubuntu+1 is better for that
[09:33] <iceroot> Matthew_Moore: but because of exactly these problems you named i guess kubuntu will be removed
[09:33] <histo> hamvocke: I agree that the module may also be the problem. The only way you will know is to try an updated one
[09:33] <varunendra> hamvocke, different people have different opinions about intel cards. On Ubuntu Forums, some are that swear by its name :P
[09:33] <hamvocke> varunendra: thanks, I'll try changing the channel later. Hopefully that'll help
[09:34] <ashwith> check
[09:34] <hamvocke> varunendra: yes, I've read repeatedly that "you cannot go wrong with an intel chipset", that's why I specifically searched for that when buying my new notebook
[09:34] <Matthew_Moore> Yeah that's my concern.  i rely on Kdenlive for my youtube show. :(  ill keep my fingers crossed.  hope things go well there.
[09:35] <varunendra> hamvocke, also try changing dns and make sure IPv6 is set to "Ignore" in network manage (both are unrelated to signal strength, but disabling IPv6 may improve speed)
[09:35] <hamvocke> histo: maybe I should try using windows first to see, if the signal issue appears there as well. If so, I can conclude that this is not a driver issue and that I need to do something about the hardware
[09:35] <hamvocke> varunendra: thanks, will do
[09:36] <Matthew_Moore> i alredy have one issue with Kdenlive on 13.04. Key Spill mop up crashes the thing.  but the same version from the same repo on 12.04 works fine. not a clue what the diffrence is between them.
[09:37] <Matthew_Moore> Dependacy or Library change i would assume.
[09:38] <hamvocke> I've read somewhere that using Fedora helped fixing the problem for one guy. Maybe I'll try booting into a Fedora live environment before installing Windows. That could spare me some time
[09:42] <varunendra> hamvocke, might as well try 12.04 :P
[09:42] <mattviapc> hi, would anyone mind assisting me in installing ubuntu?
[09:42] <varunendra> !details | mattviapc
[09:43] <histo> hamvocke: installing a new module might be the fastest bet but depends on what you know.
[09:43] <hamvocke> histo: installing a new module is also the most expensive bet so far, isn't it?
[09:44] <histo> hamvocke: expensive?
[09:44] <varunendra> hamvocke, module = driver, not card
[09:44] <mattviapc> Currently I have 2 hard drives (one has my windows installation and the other stores data a programs). I want to get the second drive that is 230GB and partition it in windows to be 130gb and 100gb. When I do so I cannot see the partition I made in ubuntu.
[09:44] <hamvocke> histo, varunendra: ah, I see what you're talking about
[09:45] <histo> hamvocke: that's why fedora would work over ubuntu their module may be newer...
[09:45] <histo> or older
[09:45] <hamvocke> histo: alright, I misunderstood the word "module" :)
[09:46] <histo> hamvocke: yes I meant kernel module as in driver in the windows world
[09:46] <hamvocke> histo: is there any resource that can give me some instructions on how to install a new module? or am i save to just google something myself?
[09:47] <pode_> r irc.cc.tut.fi
[09:47] <antonio_> I cannot figure out why I cant record any audio on my laptop running 12.10
[09:47] <antonio_> somedays it works..somedays it doesnt
[09:47] <varunendra> hamvocke, do you have an account on Ubuntu Forums? If not create one and create a thread there. You'll get very detailed and thorough help there.
[09:48] <blazemore> antonio_: Install the package "pavucontrol" - it provides a bit more control over audio devices than the default sound settings program
[09:48] <hamvocke> varunendra: thanks, that sounds like a good idea.
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> mattviapc  are you in ubuntu now?
[09:49] <mattviapc> not atm, im defragging my drive in windows
[09:49] <varunendra> hamvocke, if no better person picks up your thread there, you may PM me (my id is same there)
[09:49] <mattviapc> should I just go to ubuntu or should I defrag it?
[09:50] <blazemore> Speaking of defragging, if Windows has the only large partition on the drive, is it better to defragment it before shrinking the partiton when installing for a dual-boot?
[09:50] <MonkeyDust> mattviapc  better ask your ubuntu question, while you're in ubuntu
[09:50] <Faux> blazemore: Probably not, defragging is just as likely to move data into the space you want freed up as out of it.
[09:50] <hamvocke> varunendra: thanks!
[09:51] <blazemore> Faux: Especially for an SSD. I thought so, anyway
[09:52] <antonio_> blazemore: not really helping..
[09:52] <antonio_> This is really starting to piss me off...audio on linux has always given me troubles
[09:52] <blazemore> antonio_: Can you see your input device there?
[09:52] <MonkeyDust> antonio_  in a terminal, type     alsamixer       do you see something wrong?
[09:53] <blazemore> MonkeyDust: He's already got pavucontrol
[09:53] <Faux> Otoh, I've lost so much data to ntfsresize that I'd strongly suggest doing it some other way.
[09:54] <antonio_> I don't f#$#king get this!
[09:55] <antonio_> I always have troubles with this shit...
[09:55] <antonio_> I have a 1/8" jack going into the mic jack on the front of my laptop...
[09:55] <antonio_> sometimes it works..sometimes it doesn't
[09:55] <blazemore> antonio_: Can you see your input device there?
[09:55] <antonio_> yeah..line in
[09:56] <ObrienDave> antonio_==> does the cable work elsewhere?
[09:56] <blazemore> antonio_: Go to the "Configuration" tab, what other options are available for your sound card? is it set to Stereo Duplex?
[09:56] <antonio_> obriendave: yes...like I said it
[09:56] <antonio_> it'll work on here sometimes
[09:56] <antonio_> analog stereo duplex
[09:57] <blazemore> antonio_: Could it be a dodgy cable?
[09:57] <antonio_> nope
[09:57] <antonio_> works fine on other machines
[09:58] <blazemore> antonio_: Are there any options other than Line In? Can you change it to something else? Like "front mic" or similar?
[09:58] <ObrienDave> I had a cable that would work one way but if i turned it over 180 degrees it would NOT work
[09:59] <ObrienDave> drove me absolutely bonkers
[09:59] <antonio_> its not the cable..works fine on other machines
[09:59] <blazemore> antonio_: Are there any options other than Line In? Can you change it to something else? Like "front mic" or similar?
[10:00] <antonio_> analog input/mic/mic, analog input/mic/line in, internal mic, microphone
[10:00] <blazemore> antonio_: Try them all to see which one works
[10:01] <antonio_> none of them work
[10:01] <blazemore> That first one is the most likely
[10:02] <ObrienDave> does it work after a reboot always? or sometimes?
[10:02] <blazemore> antonio_: Go to the "Input Devices" tab and make sure the volume is turned up
[10:04] <blazemore> antonio_: Let me know when you've checked that
[10:06] <ubuntu> chinku
[10:06] <antonio_> not working
[10:06] <antonio_> getting ready to drop linux
[10:06] <blazemore> antonio_: What is not working? Is it turned up?
[10:06] <blazemore> antonio_: Could you please answer my question?  Once in, press [F4] to access capture settings. If any of the "Capture" modules have a couple of lines underneath ---------, try marking the module with the arrow eys, and pressing [Spacebar]. You will see some red text which idicates that the module is recording
[10:08] <antonio_> brb
[10:08] <antonio_> restartinb
[10:08] <antonio_> restarting
[10:11] <antonio_> ok back
[10:11] <antonio_> sound still not working
[10:12] <hillwellwang> where should I go to get an answer of a C program question?
[10:14] <tuxskyer> whois Goose
[10:14] <blazemore> hillwellwang: #c
[10:14] <ObrienDave> hillwellwang==> there are a number of C channels
[10:15] <Quest>  iam using trruecrypt but while mounting an ntfs file on a nfts files system partition, it says. http://pastebin.com/9vCBgexP     .   I can use it in windows 7 but not in linuxx ubuntu. any ideas?
[10:16] <xgeek-cub> hello
[10:16] <blazemore> Quest: From the Truecrypt FAQ: File system within a TrueCrypt volume may become corrupted in the same way as any normal unencrypted file system. When that happens, you can use filesystem repair tools supplied with your operating system to fix it. In Windows, it is the 'chkdsk' tool. TrueCrypt provides an easy way to use this tool on a TrueCrypt volume: Right-click the mounted volume in the main TrueCrypt window (in the drive list) and from th
[10:16] <blazemore> Quest: Do that from within Windows
[10:16] <xgeek-cub> i am looking for a pastebin service that has login and save all of my paste for ever!
[10:16] <Quest> blazemore,  i have already run checkdisk
[10:17] <xgeek-cub> BUT not the pastbin itself
[10:17] <Quest> blazemore,  i have already run checkdisk and it does runs files from windows. not from linux
[10:17] <Ben64> Quest: read the error you posted
[10:17] <blazemore> Quest: Boot into Windows, unmount it properly with Eject
[10:17] <Ben64> "In the first case run chkdsk /f on Windows then reboot into Windows twice."
[10:18] <Ben64> notice the "twice" part
[10:18] <Quest> Ben64,  its not software or hardware fault (as i have chkdsk from windows and it works fine there).  and iam not using raid either
[10:18] <blazemore> Quest: The fact it's truecrypt is irrelevant - you have an inconsistant NTFS partition and Windows needs to repair it
[10:18] <Quest> blazemore, ^
[10:18] <dell> hi
[10:18] <blazemore> Quest: Ben64 has told you what to do; we can't help you any more if you won't even help yourself
[10:19] <Quest> blazemore,  Ben64  i didnt got you. what did you meant? i have already check dsk the partition in windows and ran the same truecrypt file by truecrypt in windows 7. what else i should do?
[10:19] <blazemore> Quest: If you can't use Windows you can install ntfsprogs and use "sudo ntfsfix /dev/partitionName" (once it's unencrypted) but this is potentially dangerous
[10:20] <rexwin_> does anybody how to Setup WHMCS on Rack Space?
[10:20] <Ben64> Quest: the error you pastebinned has the answer in it
[10:20] <miroslav_> Hi All
[10:20] <blazemore> Quest: But the best thing to do is: Reboot to Windows, run chkdsk /f, and then reboot Windows TWICE
[10:20] <Quest> blazemore,  ok.
[10:20] <dell> hi
[10:20] <blazemore> dell: Do you have a question?
[10:21] <dell> no tnx
[10:21] <Quest> blazemore,  thanks for being elaborated. i will be back if unsuccesfull. thanks
[10:21] <ObrienDave> may I suggest chkdsk /x? that forces any open handles closed and implies /r
[10:21] <Ben64> blazemore: ... it literally says to reboot twice in the error he posted
[10:22] <blazemore> Ben64: I know, my message to him was going to be the last time I said it
[10:22] <tux2>  sudo usermod -G www-data hary
[10:22] <Ben64> didn't know facepalm was a ctcp
[10:22] <tux2> and every since I am not in sudoers.. I can't install any app
[10:22] <tux2> please help
[10:22] <Ben64> Tux: because you changed your group, you didn't add yourself to one
[10:23] <Ben64> tux2: *
[10:23] <Ben64> tux2: you need to boot into recovery mode and fix your groups
[10:23] <tux2> Ben64: I get it. :)
[10:24] <tux2> Ben64: I can log into root using shell in ctrl+alt+F3
[10:24] <Ben64> you gave root a password? : /
[10:25] <tux2> Ben64: its same passwd as hary
[10:25] <tux2> i didn't gave any
[10:25] <tux2> its strange :(
[10:25] <Ben64> you must have
[10:25] <tux2> maybe because hary is in administrator
[10:25] <Ben64> anyway, thats not really recommended
[10:25] <tux2> Ben64: yup
[10:25] <Ben64> can be dangerous having root account unlocked, but this is how you add a user to groups....
[10:26] <Ben64> usermod -a -G group user
[10:26] <tux2> Ben64: so, I should go in recovery mode and then use the command lines to manage groups ?
[10:26] <Ben64> these are the groups i'm in ... ben64 adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[10:26] <Ben64> yes
[10:28] <nevyn> no.
[10:29] <tux2> adding didn't work
[10:29] <tux2> says the same
[10:29] <tux2> haha
[10:29] <tux2> restarted the terminal
[10:29] <tux2> after adding my hary to sudoers in the terminal
[10:30] <tux2> tty using F3
[10:30] <tux2> Ben64: what do you suggest ?
[10:31] <Quest> blazemore, Ben64  rebooted twice, same problem
[10:31] <varunendra> tux2, what groups you are currently member of? (groups command)
[10:33] <danley> Hi. I have a  Realtek RTL8111/8168B ethernet chip. I installed the drivers as per instructions found on google. They worked fine, too. But I have the problem that whenever I update to a new kernel I have to redo the procedure which is impossible because I can only access the machine remotely. How can I automize the building of that kernel module for that ethernet card?
[10:33] <rexwin_> does anybody how to Setup WHMCS on Rack Space
[10:33] <blazemore> Quest: Try using the truecrypt check volume option
[10:34] <blazemore> Quest: Right-click the mounted volume in the main TrueCrypt window (in the drive list) and from the context menu select 'Repair Filesystem'.
[10:34] <ActionPa1snip> danley: look into dkms
[10:34] <varunendra> danley, read on bulding "dkms" modules, or search one.
[10:35] <blazemore> Quest: Notice I'm talking about checking the encrypted file container; NOT the ntfs partition where the file container is stored
[10:35] <Quest> blazemore,  it doesnt mounts it in linux. does in windows.     i dont see a repair functino in linux truecrypt either
[10:35] <blazemore> Quest: nono, you do the repair from Windows
[10:35] <Quest> bazhang,  yes. i got you
[10:35] <Quest> blazemore,  ok
[10:36] <Quest> brb
[10:37] <danley> thanks ActionPa1snip, varunendra. do you guys think this: http://djlab.com/2010/10/fixing-rtl8111-8168b-driver-debian-ubuntu/ in the update would work?
[10:37] <varunendra> danley, no that is a different driver
[10:38] <danley> but the principle, I mean
[10:38] <varunendra> danley, yes, if that talks about "howto build one" then it should be same.
[10:40] <varunendra> danley, just re-read your original question, even the driver is same (/facepalms)
[10:40] <varunendra> danley, but why do you need it? The native one is good enough now. (r8169)
[10:42] <blazemore> varunendra: For me, I have to remove r8169 and install r8168 or I get dropped frames
[10:42] <varunendra> blazemore, still?? On 12.04 or later ??
[10:42] <blazemore> Although it's improved since 12.04
[10:42] <patsToms> morning, I want to use open box with one window there. But seems I need vnc to push some buttons there. I have ubuntu server 13
[10:43] <patsToms> any ideas?
[10:43] <blazemore> In fact, I don't *have* to any more, but I get slightly better perforance if I do
[10:43] <varunendra> blazemore, it used to be a problem in 10.04, but not anymore it seems
[10:43] <ActionPa1snip> patsToms: why not use X forwarding and run the app you need
[10:43] <danley> varunendra, well, the old board broke, I replaced it, the new one had this chipset and ubuntu didn't identify any network device
[10:43] <patsToms> ActionPa1snip, X forwarding?
[10:43] <danley> so I installed the one from realtek
[10:43] <ActionPa1snip> patsToms: it will run the app on the server but display on you client PC
[10:43] <danley> I'm using 12.04 server edition
[10:43] <danley> it's just a little atom as NAS and media server etc
[10:44] <patsToms> ActionPa1snip, thanks about info. Found something online, will try :)
[10:44] <varunendra> danley, did the 8168 work? Because there seems to be a new problem with that particular chip, where none of the drivers work.. (a BIOS reset *sometimes* fixes it)
[10:45] <danley> and it seems to have worked. at least the output of dkms is thumbs up. thanks again varunendra and ActionPa1snip.
[10:45] <danley> it does work with realtek's driver
[10:45] <danley> 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06)
[10:45] <varunendra> danley, that's a useful info.
[10:45] <danley> that's the one I have
[10:46] <danley> the driver version I downloaded is 8.036.00
[10:46] <varunendra> danley, the newest one available I guess :)
[10:47] <danley> yup. released on 2013/6/17
[10:48] <varunendra> okkay, gotta try that one again next time :) Thanks danley
[10:49] <danley> varunendra, there, save you 2 seconds of googling: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=13&PFid=5&Level=5&Conn=4&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
[10:50] <varunendra> danley, don't worry about the link. I visit there probably 4-5 times a week... for different drivers though.. lol But thanks for your concern.
[10:55] <Tex_Nick> 13.04 ... i've been using the Golden Frog vyprVPN for a couple weeks now ... my ISP connection is 15Mbps, but with VPN enabled the system monitor network monitor sometimes shows about 2.8Mbps ... would that be a true speed ? It seems a lot faster
[10:57] <blazemore> Tex_Nick: You could always use http://speedtest.net
[10:58] <Quest> blazemore,  i can mount it in linux now. but some files that i recently copied to the truecrypt file in linux are lost
[10:59] <nirvana> hello i want to restrict some tools/files from being accessed by certain users, whats the best tool for it?
[11:00] <blazemore> nirvana: Add the restricted users to a group, then use the file manager to restrict that group from accessing the files
[11:02] <Tex_Nick> blazemore: yeah have done that ... but actual DL speeds seem to be about twice as fast as what speakeasy.net/speedtest shows ... kinda an enigma
[11:02] <HurricaneTornado> hello everyone
[11:02] <HurricaneTornado> need some tornadoes
[11:02] <ActionPa1snip> nirvana: the OS does that, you have group ownership and individual ownership
[11:02] <ActionPa1snip> nirvana: you can put users in groups then give that group the ownership of the folders and files
[11:03] <blazemore> Tex_Nick: Your true speed will depend on the upload speed of the server. What is your actual question here?
[11:03] <ActionPa1snip> nirvana: also FYI, there is no single best tool for anything, you have options
[11:04] <nirvana> what if i have 20 tools (e.g: curl,nmap) to not being accessed to 10 users so i grouped them in a restricted group, so lets say i want to allow user A use nmap tool so i just remove him from the group, but that would make him use curl tool and others?
[11:05] <ActionPa1snip> nirvana: then set the group ownership to a group, leave the user owner as root, then deny all other users access
[11:05] <HurricaneTornado> i love hurricanes and tornadoes!!!!!!
[11:05] <ActionPa1snip> nirvana: make the application be chmodded to 550   (owner and group read and execute and everyone else zero access)
[11:05] <Quest> blazemore,  i can mount it in linux now. but some files that i recently copied to the truecrypt file in linux are lost
[11:05] <ActionPa1snip> HurricaneTornado: please stick to the channe topic
[11:06] <Quest> blazemore,  so thats gone?
[11:06] <blazemore> Quest: Probably; yes. Any reason you're using ntfs?
[11:06] <HurricaneTornado> i dont know wh at the topic is
[11:06] <M4he> Hi everybody! How can I change the terminal which is opened by nautilus-open-terminal ? It defaults to xterm when gnome-terminal isn't installed but I want it to open xfce4-terminal.
[11:06] <ActionPa1snip> HurricaneTornado: ubuntu support, and ONLY ubuntu support
[11:06] <nirvana> ActionPa1snip: i need a reading, any tutorial or docs for that sir? i know i can google, but you know better which one i should read
[11:07] <Quest> blazemore,  yes. have to acces files on both linux and windows. otherwise i prefere ext
[11:07] <HurricaneTornado> what channels are there here?
[11:07] <ActionPa1snip> nirvana: look into Linux ACLs and chmod and chown and chgrp
[11:07] <DJones> !alis | HurricaneTornado
[11:07] <ActionPa1snip> !alis | HurricaneTornado
[11:07] <nirvana> ok sir
[11:07] <blazemore> Quest: Fat32 is a bit safer
[11:07] <histo> nirvana: what is the ultimate goal for restricting them?
[11:07] <blazemore> M4he: sudo apt-get install dconf-tools
[11:07] <Quest> blazemore,  it cant have more thatn 4g files
[11:07] <blazemore> M4he: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.default-applications.terminal exec xfce4-terminal
[11:08] <nirvana> histo: im learning sir, trial and errors
[11:08] <blazemore> Quest: Then always make sure you safely unmount your NTFS volumes when you're finished with them, in both Linux and Windows
[11:08] <histo> nirvana: Well don't allow them sudo access then
[11:08] <Quest> blazemore,  ok
[11:08] <Quest> blazemore,  ok thanks
[11:08] <blazemore> !ntfs | Quest
[11:09] <ActionPa1snip> nirvana: if a user has sudo access it will trump anything you do, root can access and do anything at all
[11:09] <blazemore> Oh Quest sorry I thought that like wuld be more useful
[11:09] <nirvana> histo: ah so the easiest way is to restrict the tools to only being access by root
[11:09] <blazemore> *link *would
[11:09] <nirvana> so i dont need to worry about the group thing
[11:10] <Quest> blazemore,  ubuntu already have ntfs-3g
[11:10] <M4he> blazemore: Thanks. This line worked with nautilus 3.4 but it doesn't with 3.6 on 13.04 now
[11:10] <ActionPa1snip> nirvana: only people in the sudo group can run admin tasks
[11:10] <ActionPa1snip> nirvana: using apt-get to update the OS is an admin task
[11:10] <histo> nirvana: What are the "tools" you are worried about?
[11:12] <nirvana> ActionPa1snip: i know but i want to restrict certain tools, or maybe some modules in python so they cant use em
[11:12] <nirvana> histo: i dont know, maybe telnet
[11:12] <ActionPa1snip> nirvana: you can use visudo to control what commands your sudo users can and cannot run, the default is all commands but you can lock them down as you need
[11:13] <histo> nirvana: what's the fear that the users can't use telnet?
[11:13] <nirvana> ActionPa1snip: ill take a look on it
[11:14] <histo> nirvana: sorry let me rephrase.. Why are you trying to restrict access to telnet?
[11:15] <ActionPa1snip> nirvana: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sudoers#Command_Aliases
[11:16] <nirvana> histo: forget the telnet sir lol, for example i got this free public shell, and i use it for download/upload stuff from some file hosting, like download movie and transfer them to dropbox, so i learn it and i know bad users management is dangerous
[11:16] <nirvana> ActionPa1snip: ok
[11:17] <histo> nirvana: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo  Please read and understand this then.
[11:24] <DJHenjin> this is odd, I set up public key authentication on my server successfully a couple weeks ago and disabled password login, It was working fine until as far as i can tell a few minutes ago when I tried to login to SFTP with winSCP with the correct private key
[11:24] <DJHenjin> now I cannot even log in using putty with the correct private key either,
[11:25] <DJHenjin> I get "server refused our key" in the console window in putty, then I get a pop up saying "no supported auth methods available( server sent pub key)"
[11:26] <DJHenjin> this is really really bad as this is a production server, and if I get logged out of the 1 session I have open currently I am screwed
[11:26] <CKLMN> my workspaces are enabled , also super+s works , but ctl+alt+arrow isnt , can anyone help me with thhis /
[11:26] <CKLMN> ??
[11:27] <MonkeyDust> CKLMN  system settings, keyboard, shortcuts
[11:27] <CKLMN> i did it , also i set them , but still doesnt work
[11:27] <usr13> DJHenjin: You know the password(s) to it.  Right?
[11:27] <DJHenjin> usr13: Yes, although I have disabled password based login for more security
[11:28] <CKLMN> MonkeyDust, Switch to workspace below : ctrl+alt+Down
[11:28] <CKLMN> MonkeyDust, also did it for the other 3
[11:28] <ActionPa1snip> DJHenjin: why did you not setup a test box to learn how to setup keys before running on a prod servr?
[11:28] <usr13> DJHenjin: What do you mean, you've disabled password?
[11:28] <CKLMN> MonkeyDust, still doesnt work
[11:28] <trueneu> DJHenjin, the best solution here is to re-enable it at least temporarily until you know what's wrong with your keys.
[11:28] <Andrey_Bolotin> hello)
[11:29] <trueneu> usr13, he means he disabled password-based login through ssh, I bet.
[11:29] <DJHenjin> ActionPa1snip: I disabled password login after I verified public key auth was working
[11:29] <DJHenjin> trueneu: that is correct
[11:29] <ActionPa1snip> DJHenjin: ok thats cool
[11:29] <Andrey_Bolotin> hi!)
[11:29] <Andrey_Bolotin> syki
[11:29] <usr13> DJHenjin: It appears that those keys are no longer "correct".
[11:30] <DJHenjin> I wonder why.
[11:30] <trueneu> DJHenjin, just re-enable it back temporarily and don't leave only one way to access a server. Never. Ever. Then investigate what's wrong with the keys.
[11:30] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:30] <trueneu> Andrey_Bolotin, there are some Russian speaking people here, would you behave?
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> trueneu  don't give it attention, summertime, more teens online
[11:32] <trueneu> MonkeyDust, ah. Right. Forgot that, thanks.
[11:33] <zatricky> Hey, all. I asked already in #ubuntu-server but it seems its a tumbleweed town ...
[11:33] <zatricky> I updated my personal server at home last night from 12.10 to 13.04 - the upgrade went smoothly except that the new kernel (3.8) doesn't finish booting. There are no clues given except for an error saying "Timed out", and "Dropping to a shell".
[11:33] <zorael> Memory fails me; isn't there a tool in the repos to conveniently tweak package dependencies? Say I want to change a hard dep into a recommends.
[11:33] <DJHenjin> password auth re enabled, now to figure out why my public key auth is screwged
[11:33] <zatricky> The server runs off a 60GB Intel SSD with btrfs - which works without any issue with the previous kernel (3.5)
[11:33] <zatricky> I've done a lot of googling but I'm not seeing much info relevant either to btrfs or simply "Timed out" in relation to the a boot process failure :-/ Is this a known issue perhaps?
[11:34] <catmando> Hey all
[11:34] <trueneu> DJHenjin, does putty provide any kind of verbose log?
[11:34] <dongzi> hello
[11:34] <DJHenjin> no, enabled all logging and all I get is 'server refused out key'
[11:34] <catmando> Trying to get openvpn running, installed openvpn binary via apt-get but getting a 'no such file or directory' from /dev/net/tun
[11:34] <catmando> What am i missing
[11:35] <trueneu> DJHenjin, even better - can you use a *nix box to connect?
[11:35] <catmando> (Yes i am running this from the command line)
[11:35] <trueneu> DJHenjin, for example the same you're connecting to?
[11:35] <DJHenjin> trueneu: No I do not have one available
[11:35] <trueneu> DJHenjin, but you're connected to one right now if I get you right.
[11:36] <DJHenjin> I am connected to the server currently yes
[11:37] <DJHenjin> auth.log states Jul  5 05:31:41 ns5001352 sshd[2008]: Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for directory /
[11:37] <trueneu> DJHenjin, so use it to connect to itself via ssh with verbose log.
[11:37] <trueneu> DJHenjin, for directory / ?
[11:38] <zatricky> DJHenjin/trueneu: lolwut?
[11:38] <trueneu> zatricky, have no idea.
[11:39] <DJHenjin> ah shite i think i know what happened,
[11:39] <trueneu> I'll blame winSCP even if it's innocent.
[11:39] <zatricky> DJHenjin - what are the perms set to on / ?
[11:39] <zatricky> haha
[11:39] <catmando> No?
[11:39] <catmando> Nothing?
[11:39] <DJHenjin> i can only check perms on folders inside / right?
[11:40] <trueneu> It may be funny, they're usually root:root 755.
[11:40] <DJHenjin> I use EHCP to manage my hosting, And I was trying to setup an FTP account from within EHCP to access everythign inside /
[11:40] <trueneu> You can check permissions on / , it has '.' entry. It's a directory actually.
[11:40] <DJHenjin> it must have fuckered the perms somehow
[11:41] <DJHenjin> inside / everything is root rot drwxr-xr-x except /home
[11:41] <zatricky> root@glick:~# ls -lsd /
[11:41] <zatricky> 0 drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 254 Jul  5 00:18 /
[11:41] <zatricky> -d to have it get the directory's info only
[11:41] <zatricky> not the directory content*
[11:41] <DJHenjin> that it did ...
[11:41] <DJHenjin> 4 drwxr-xr-x 24 vsftpd www-data 4096 Apr 27 23:04 /
[11:41] <trueneu> vsftpd www-data
[11:42] <trueneu> And there it is.
[11:42] <zatricky> yeah, that's not right
[11:42] <DJHenjin> all because i wanted a standard FTP account to be able to access /
[11:42] <trueneu> What's EHCP anyway?
[11:42] <DJHenjin> fixed with chown root:root /
[11:43] <DJHenjin> Easy Hosting Control Panel,
[11:43] <ActionPa1snip> DJHenjin: oh man bad idea to give ftp access to anything but it needs, also ftp should die
[11:43] <trueneu> Sounds like phpmyadmin. phpmyadmin sounds like shyte.
[11:43] <DJHenjin> its for managing webhosting, MySQL, DNS server, Email,
[11:43] <ActionPa1snip> phpmyadmin is ok, not great
[11:44] <trueneu> ActionPa1snip is very right about ftp.
[11:44] <DJHenjin> Thanks for the helps
[11:45] <trueneu> NP, you've figured it out yourself in the end.
[11:45] <DJHenjin> using winSCP for sftp since filezilla wont accept my passcoded private key :(
[11:47] <DJHenjin> is that a bad idea?
[11:48] <DJHenjin> also, what would you recommend as a secondary way into the server, I do not like password auth as I have another person who needs access as well
[11:51] <ActionPa1snip> DJHenjin: I'd use ssh with keys
[11:51] <DJHenjin> ActionPa1snip: I do use SSH already, with public key auth,
[11:51] <catmando> So, Ubuntu 12.04, installed openvpn, getting a 'cannot open tun/tap dev' error
[11:51] <catmando> Any ideas?
[11:52] <nbags> catmando: r u root?
[11:52] <catmando> I am
[11:52] <nbags> cat is tap/tun module loaded?
[11:55] <Vinnie_win> So I accepted an update from Ubuntu and restarted, and now the Guest Additions (VirtualBox don't seem to be working quite right, when I resize the Host window the Guest window doesn't resize
[11:56] <circle> trying to install a java plugin for mozilla
[11:56] <histo> Vinnie_win: is ubuntu the guest or the host?
[11:56] <Vinnie_win> histo: Ubuntu is the guest
[11:56] <circle> It wants me to make a symlink to a file called "libnpjp2.so"
[11:56] <circle> but I don't have that file
[11:56] <histo> Vinnie_win: reinstall guest additions
[11:56] <trueneu> Vinnie_win, then... update guest additions?
[11:58] <histo> Vinnie_win: they probably need to be rebuilt for the new kernel you received via update
[12:00] <ActionPa1snip> circle: sudo updatedb; locate libnpjp2.so
[12:00] <catmando> Nbags: how do i install that module, since modprobe tun does not work
[12:00] <ActionPa1snip> circle: why not use the webupd8 java ppa, so much easier
[12:00] <circle> ActionPa1snip: where's that?
[12:00] <ActionPa1snip> circle: on the web
[12:00] <catmando> nbags: also, is that not in the kerrnel now? Surely that should get pulled in by apt-get when i install openvpn
[12:01] <ActionPa1snip> circle: when the PPA gets updated too, the java on your OS will update too
[12:02] <Vinnie_win> histo: Oh....ugh...how do I go back to the previous kernel?
[12:02] <circle> ActionPa1snip: I'm not on ubuntu...I only came here because I can speek here while services are down and I can't in my OS's channel
[12:02] <circle> speak*
[12:03] <zorael> circle: You may be mixing OpenJDK with Sun's java -- see http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=247924
[12:03] <histo> Vinnie_win: press shift key while booting to select the old kernel from the grub menu
[12:03] <ActionPa1snip> circle: this is ubuntu support only
[12:03] <histo> Vinnie_win: or you could just install guest additions and be done with it.
[12:04] <ActionPa1snip> circle: ##linux is distro ambiguous
[12:04] <circle> zorael: ahhh, thank you
[12:06] <circle> zorael: should I remove the other java?
[12:08] <zorael> circle: Try it, see what happens.
[12:09] <circle> zorael: what?
[12:10] <zipy> how can i show external hdd devices in terminal
[12:12] <zorael> circle: As in yes, do remove it, if it doesn't work then you can always reinstall it
[12:13] <jrib> zipy: did you mount them?
[12:14] <zipy> jrib, i have to find them first *g*
[12:14] <zipy> i think i did now with fdisk -l
[12:14] <CaptainQuirk> Hi there ! I'm having an issue with executing a command inside gnome-terminal with -x switch
[12:14] <jrib> zipy: « ls /dev/sd* » ?
[12:14] <CaptainQuirk> The command being launched itself by AT
[12:15] <CaptainQuirk> Paste is here http://pastie.org/8112666
[12:15] <CaptainQuirk> Without the -x switch, everything works fine
[12:15] <nit> hi
[12:16] <kdev> Hello All.
[12:16] <kdev> I hv a problem . How
[12:16] <jrib> CaptainQuirk: maybe you want -e?  What do you actually want to execute?
[12:17] <CaptainQuirk> Another command
[12:17] <jrib> CaptainQuirk: what other command...
[12:17] <CaptainQuirk> well it doesn't matter for the moment actually, it can be a shell script or an existing external command
[12:17] <kdev> How to import svn project into eclipse which is in Dropbox and my path to Home/Dropbox/SVNDEV2.0
[12:17] <CaptainQuirk> something that prints things to stdout anyway
[12:18] <jrib> CaptainQuirk: gnome-terminal -x echo test
[12:18] <CaptainQuirk> can you elaborate on the difference between -e and -x ?
[12:18] <circle> so java's install dir is /opt/java?
[12:18] <circle> that sound right?
[12:19] <kdev> any one help me ?
[12:19] <jrib> CaptainQuirk: -x takes the rest of the arguments as your command.  -e takes the next argument as your command.  This is my understanding.
[12:20] <CaptainQuirk> ok
[12:20] <CaptainQuirk> jrib, the quote must be the problem then ?
[12:20] <jrib> CaptainQuirk: yes, you don't have a command called "echo test" probably
[12:20] <kdev> How to import svn project into eclipse which is in Dropbox and my path to Home/Dropbox/SVNDEV2.0 I have done to this... Expand the SVN folder -> Checkout Projects from SVN Now Problem in the path  file:///Home/Dropbox/SVNDEV2.0
[12:21] <MonkeyDust> kdev  ln -s the project to some place where you can reach it
[12:22] <kdev> the project is in my Dropbox
[12:22] <kdev> i m not getting how to give the path
[12:23] <CaptainQuirk> jrib, doesn't work with no quotes at all
[12:23] <jrib> CaptainQuirk: what did you run
[12:23] <CaptainQuirk> gnome-terminal -x echo test
[12:23] <Magii> Hi
[12:24] <jrib> CaptainQuirk: what do you mean when you say "doesn't work"?  What actually happened?
[12:24] <CaptainQuirk> No terminal was launched
[12:24] <jrib> CaptainQuirk: did you get an error?
[12:24] <CaptainQuirk> nope
[12:24] <bonii> Hi, I have a Lenovo T420. I run xmonad and I am trying to configure my system to run 2 external monitors (one via VGA and other via DVI/Displayport) so that I can run diffrent workspaces on different monitors in xmonad. I dont want to use the display on the Lenovo laptop when I use the external displays. Can someone please point me how can I configure xorg for this setup ?
[12:25] <jrib> CaptainQuirk: are you sure your terminal didn't open, echo test, and then quit very quickly (this is what should happen)?  Why don't you try "nano" instead of "echo test"?
[12:25] <kdev> How to import svn project into eclipse which is in Dropbox and my path to Home/Dropbox/SVNDEV2.0 I have done to this... Expand the SVN folder -> Checkout Projects from SVN Now Problem in the path  file:///Home/Dropbox/SVNDEV2.0  it show error  i m not getting how to give the path
[12:25] <Magii> I have a Acer windows 8 laptop, I want to install ubuntu 13.04 along side it. But when I run the legacy bios ubuntu doesnt reconize windows and when I run uefi my pc doesnt accept the usb boot :/ help me please
[12:26] <MonkeyDust> !uefi | Magii start here
[12:26] <Magii> Ty
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> alis is not available?
[12:27] <kdev> i m trying to sift my development platform to ubuntu . So need ur valuable helps
[12:27] <Faux> There's some kind of services outage at the moment, MonkeyDust.
[12:28] <syntax_error> hello all
[12:29] <Magii> Okay ive read the !uefi but my laptop wont boot my liveusb when I boot in UEFI bootmode
[12:30] <MonkeyDust> kdev  keep it in the channel please, i may be giving erroneous advice and the others must be able to follow, too
[12:30] <DJHenjin> I have a 20 GB / partition on 2 120 GB SSD's in RAID, a 1 GB swap on same, and a 90 GB unused partition also on same, I would like to remove the unused partition and the swap and then resize the / Partition to fill the disks,
[12:30] <Magii> My laptop wont boot my liveusb when its in uefi bootmode
[12:31] <kdev> How to import svn project into eclipse which is in Dropbox and my path to Home/Dropbox/SVNDEV2.0 I have done to this... Expand the SVN folder -> Checkout Projects from SVN Now Problem in the path  file:///Home/Dropbox/SVNDEV2.0  it show error  i m not getting how to give the path
[12:31] <DJHenjin> can anyone offer me advice on the best way to do this with minimal downtime
[12:31] <CaptainQuirk> jrib, I don't get it, I'm trying to open the terminal now, and I don't get anything
[12:32] <kdev> How to import svn project into eclipse which is in Dropbox and my path to Home/Dropbox/SVNDEV2.0 I have done to this... Expand the SVN folder -> Checkout Projects from SVN Now Problem in the path  file:///Home/Dropbox/SVNDEV2.0  it show error  i m not getting how to give the path
[12:32] <jrib> CaptainQuirk: you have to say what you are actually doing, I'm not looking over your shoulder to see the commands you are inputting
[12:32] <CaptainQuirk> The same as on my paste, without the -x switch
[12:33] <CaptainQuirk> at now +1 minute
[12:33] <jrib> CaptainQuirk: make a new pastebin
[12:33] <Gx1sptDTDa> hi.. I downloaded the Ubuntu SDK this morning following standard instructions (http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/) for Ubuntu 13.04. I tried the currency converter tutorial. It works, but colors/backgrounds for buttons are completely messed up (see http://askubuntu.com/questions/316629/qml-button-colors-not-working) . Now I've just noticed that Friends also doesnt boot up, giving 2 errors in terminal when I start friends-ap
[12:33] <Gx1sptDTDa> installing the Ubuntu SDK obviously broke *something*, but what?
[12:33] <Magii> When my laptop is in legacy bios the ubuntu installer doesnt reconize windows, it cant install along side it. When my laptop is in UEFI mode it wont reconize my live usb... Disabling secure boot doesnt seem to work either :/
[12:34] <Magii> When my laptop is in legacy bios the ubuntu installer doesnt reconize windows, it cant install along side it. When my laptop is in UEFI mode it wont reconize my live usb... Disabling secure boot doesnt seem to work either :/
[12:35] <kdev> How to import svn project into eclipse which is in Dropbox and my path to Home/Dropbox/SVNDEV2.0 I have done to this... Expand the SVN folder -> Checkout Projects from SVN Now Problem in the path  file:///Home/Dropbox/SVNDEV2.0  it show error  i m not getting how to give the path
[12:35] <jrib> !repeat | kdev
[12:37] <CaptainQuirk> jrib, http://pastie.org/8112706
[12:46] <mrdeb> hi
[12:46] <mrdeb> what is ahardware monitor
[12:46] <mrdeb> which one
[12:53] <rww> IdleOne: if the +e list has more than 4 entries, you can cut that down too
[12:53] <rww> if you didn't already
[12:53] <CaptainQuirk> jrib, http://pastie.org/8112706
[12:53] <Gx1sptDTDa> hi.. I downloaded the Ubuntu SDK this morning following standard instructions (http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/) for Ubuntu 13.04. I tried the currency converter tutorial. It works, but colors/backgrounds for buttons are completely messed up (see http://askubuntu.com/questions/316629/qml-button-colors-not-working) . Now I've just noticed that Friends also doesnt boot up, giving 2 errors in terminal when I start friends-ap
[12:53] <Gx1sptDTDa> installing the Ubuntu SDK obviously broke *something*, but what?
[12:53] <jrib> CaptainQuirk: does "DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal" work for you outside of at?  i.e. if you just execute it at your shell prompt directly?
[12:53] <grass7boy> hello
[12:53] <grass7boy> i ve fount that
[12:53] <grass7boy> when i press printscreen key
[12:53] <grass7boy> ubuntu 13.04 will capture my screen
[12:53] <grass7boy> i wonder know what program has been execute when i press the PrintScreen key
[12:53] <grass7boy> moreover...  can i launch another program when i press that key?
[12:53] <jrib> CaptainQuirk: does "DISPLAY=:0 gnome-terminal" work for you outside of at?  i.e. if you just execute it at your shell prompt directly?
[12:53] <CaptainQuirk> jrib, indeed, it doesn't : Failed to connect to the session manager: Could not open network socket
[12:54] <ss_haze> grass7boy, just a tip, use top, htop or gnome-system-monitor, to see which processes you are running in time
[12:58] <Gx1sptDTDa> hi.. I downloaded the Ubuntu SDK this morning following standard instructions (http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/) for Ubuntu 13.04. I tried the currency converter tutorial. It works, but colors/backgrounds for buttons are completely messed up (see http://askubuntu.com/questions/316629/qml-button-colors-not-working) . Now I've just noticed that Friends also doesnt boot up, giving 2 errors in terminal when I start friends-ap
[12:58] <Gx1sptDTDa> installing the Ubuntu SDK obviously broke *something*, but what?
[13:28] <zmoe> change channel
[13:28] <zmoe> ?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> mic1980: copy it to a linux fle system
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> zmoe: thats not a qestion
[13:28] <MOUD> ActionParsnip: can you please provide the command to check for the KDE size to be downloaded?
[13:28] <mic1980> thanks will review
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> MOUD: sudo apt-get install kbounce      You can say NO to simply observe the installed size. Is there not a GTK based app the same?
[13:28] <OerHeks> MOUD, kubuntu-13.04-desktop-amd64.iso               24-Apr-2013 23:12  928mb
[13:29] <jdoles> How can I change the default file browser to use in Firefox (it opens nautilus, while I want it to use something else)?
[13:29] <MOUD> ActionParsnip: no, I mean download the whole KDE environment
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> MOUD: it will only download what is needed by the app
[13:30] <MOUD> ActionParsnip: ok then, thanks
[13:30] <MOUD> OerHeks: I only wanted to know the KDE environment size (if I want to switch between GNOME and KDE). I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 now
[13:31] <YSTYLE> I'm using debian 7  now
[13:31] <OerHeks> MOUD that depends on your hardware, i guess
[13:32] <zatricky> MOUD also on what builtin applications you might want running/disabled between the two environments
[13:32] <OerHeks> MOUD, i just reinstalled Kubuntu + restricted extra's + vlc + clementine + chromium + updates = 14,1 gb
[13:32] <zatricky> I disabled all the "cool" search features I never used as they took up a chunk of my RAM
[13:32] <MOUD> OerHeks: O.o 14GB is too big
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> MOUD: Id look at a GTK based solution
[13:34] <MOUD> zatricky: good question. I still don't know for sure. I just installed ubuntu and I have a slow internet connection
[13:36] <MOUD> I need to go now, see you ppl later :)
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> !info icebreaker
[13:40] <MaurizioB> hello,I'm trying to install 13.04 as guest on a gentoo host using virtualbox, but I have issues with both the installer and the live disc, is there a particular procedure that I should follow?
[13:41] <joy> hi there
[13:41] <xangua> MaurizioB: telling the issues would be one
[13:41] <MonkeyDust> md5 | MaurizioB make sure the iso not corrupt
[13:41] <MaurizioB> sure :)
[13:41] <joy> what is this message means Init: no more processes left in this runlevel
[13:42] <MaurizioB> The first issue I see with the live is that X starts but hangs on compiz, giving an error
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> MaurizioB  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[13:42] <MaurizioB> I'm going to checksum the iso right now
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> MaurizioB: which flavour of 13.04 are you using?
[13:44] <MaurizioB> ok, the checksum is fine
[13:44] <MaurizioB> ActionParsnip: desktop-i386
[13:44] <zteam> Hi all
[13:44] <sebrock> can anyone help me setup a L2TP tunnel? Nothing seems to happen to the tunnel
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> MaurizioB: yes but Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu?
[13:44] <MaurizioB> ubuntu, sorry :)
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> MaurizioB: i'd suggest Xubuntu or Lubuntu in a VM, they are lighter so will impact less on the host
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> idd
[13:45] <blast_hardcheese> What is in charge of filling up /boot/ on ubuntu servers?
[13:45] <zteam> I have a very annoying issue with my Ubuntu 13.04 installation, about half the time then I start my computer the system forget to start up Lightdm
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> MaurizioB  and if you're skilled enough for Gentoo, you may want to try the mini iso, too
[13:46] <MaurizioB> ok. do you know if they differ in the chrome/chromium installation?
[13:46] <zykotick9> blast_hardcheese: kernels perhaps?
[13:46] <MaurizioB> MonkeyDust: I did, I have problems with that too :(
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> MaurizioB: its the same install souce and method
[13:46] <zteam> I'm using Ubuntu on a Kingston SSDNow V300 120 GB with a Gigabyte GA-ma770 DS3 motherboard
[13:46] <MaurizioB> ActionParsnip: thanks
[13:47] <zteam> anyone got some easy fix?
[13:47] <MaurizioB> with the mini install I get a base-installer/kernel/failed-install
[13:47] <luv2dev> @jrib how can i use ubuntu in windows 7 as a dual boot without affecting my files and folder?
[13:47] <blast_hardcheese> zykotick9: Yes, of course. I guess a more direct question would have been "What pedantically installs every available kernel immediately as it comes out?"
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> zteam: you could add to restart lightdm in /etc/rc.local
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> luv2dev: win7 can resize its own NTFS partition
[13:48] <zteam> ActionParsnip, okey, do you think that solve it? :-)
[13:48] <blast_hardcheese> I recognize security and whatnot, but considering that this machine is already behind a firewall (and it doesn't get used very much), it's really annoying
[13:48] <zykotick9> blast_hardcheese: that's normal ubuntu update behaviour.  do you actually "need" a separate /boot?
[13:49] <blast_hardcheese> zykotick9: /boot is 500 megs, that should be more than enough for anything
[13:49] <zykotick9> blast_hardcheese: without a "need" a separate /boot is foolish... good luck.
[13:50] <MaurizioB> Ok, I'm downloading lubuntu
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> zteam: is the OS fully updated
[13:50] <blast_hardcheese> zykotick9: The "need" for /boot/ is so that things like Ubuntu downloading too many kernels doesn't impact the functionality of the rest of the system. I'd much rather have /boot fill up than /.
[13:51] <zteam> ActionParsnip, yesterday it was, but now I see some more updates
[13:53] <zteam> ActionParsnip, doubt the updates fix it, thought this issue has existed from Ubuntu 12.04 as well :-/
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> zteam: worth a try
[13:53] <zteam> ActionParsnip, But I'm of course very grateful for every advice I get :-)
[13:55] <columb> What's the best way to get CS6 working on Ubuntu 13.04?
[13:55] <MonkeyDust> whats CS6?
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> columb: wine, cedega or crossoveroffice
[13:55] <jbroome> columb: run windows in virtualbox
[13:55] <MaurizioB> cs6=photoshop?
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> columb: none is outright best, they are just options#
[13:56] <jbroome> MaurizioB: creative suite 6.  includes more than just PS
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> columb: in future can you use FULL product names, only use defacto acronyms, save confusion
[13:58] <giwrgaras> in the ubuntu install i dont get a 'install alongside windows'. all i get is delete win install ubuntu with 2 subselections, and then an 'other' option'
[13:58] <MaurizioB> jbroome: right :)
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> columb  http://appdb.winehq.org/
[13:58] <giwrgaras> i choose the other, it tells something about partitions and it has lots of file types. fat16,32 and some other strange stuff.
[13:58] <giwrgaras> is there any tutorial on what do i do in this case or anyone can help on this one?
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> giwrgaras  select "other"
[13:59] <sebastia> so I'm still on 10.04 LTS and need a newer version of xl2tpd. How can I fix this?
[13:59] <giwrgaras> yeah that wasnt so hard but what then
[13:59] <zteam> ActionParsnip, if I want to try to start lightdm from rc.local do I have to be root?
[13:59] <giwrgaras> 10 file types and i have no idea what are they
[13:59] <xangua> sebastia upgrade to a supported ubuntu version
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> zteam: command in rc.local are ran as root, add the command above the 'exit 0' line
[13:59] <sebastia> xangua: obviously, but that is not an option. I have to stick with LTS
[13:59] <usr13> giwrgaras: You have to decide which partition(s) to use or shrink to provide free space.
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> giwrgaras  ext4 for ubuntu
[14:00] <giwrgaras> which one do you use?
[14:00] <giwrgaras> ext4?
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> sebastia  you can easily upgrade to 12.04 LTS
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> sebastia: do you have a desktop UI with mouse pointer and nautilus file browser?
[14:00] <usr13> giwrgaras: yes
[14:00] <zteam> ActionParsnip, okey so just "start ligthtdm" then right?
[14:00] <giwrgaras> also when i choose something, it said something else about not having a root
[14:00] <sebastia> ActionParsnip: no this is a server edition, terminal only
[14:00] <usr13> giwrgaras: What size is your hard drive?
[14:00] <giwrgaras> 500gb
[14:00] <MonkeyDust> sebastia  you need /home, / and swap
[14:00] <sebastia> MonkeyDust: policywise I cannot do it
[14:01] <usr13> giwrgaras: So how much did you set aside for Ubuntu install?
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> sebastia  and 10.04 for the desktop is !eol, dead
[14:01] <giwrgaras> 40gb
[14:01] <sebastia> no its not, its LTS to 2015
[14:01] <MonkeyDust> sebastia  for the server
[14:01] <usr13> giwrgaras: How much RAM does this computer have?
[14:01] <sebastia> I have the server, as I wrote
[14:02] <giwrgaras> 4gb
[14:02] <zteam> sebastia, you really should move (or talk to the admin about moving to Ubuntu 12.04)
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> sebastia  great, there's also #ubuntu-server
[14:02] <sebastia> where no one answers ever
[14:02] <usr13> giwrgaras: Make 2 partitions, one 4G swap partition and the rest for /
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> sebastia  maybe because no one has the answer
[14:03] <sebastia> there is no activity of any sort
[14:03] <giwrgaras> file ext4 or swap? cause it also had a swap option
[14:03] <OerHeks> sebastia, upgrading to 1.04 lts does not infringe your policy, and you have newer packages
[14:03] <OerHeks> 12.04*
[14:03] <giwrgaras> also despite all that it asked for a root, and its submenue it had 2 options: dos and windows
[14:03] <giwrgaras> installer or something dont remember exactly
[14:04] <usr13> giwrgaras: one swap partition (un-formatted), the other prtition for /  should be  ext4
[14:04] <nzee> How do I set a password for user 'ubuntu'?
[14:04] <Pici> sebastia: While 10.04 is still supported on the server, it doesn't mean that it gets new packages. You'd either need to build from source or find a PPA to get a newer version of that particular package.
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> nzee  in a live sessio?
[14:04] <MonkeyDust> session*
[14:04] <sebastia> Pici pr can I create a PPA myself?
[14:04] <nzee> MonkeyDust: Yes
[14:04] <usr13> nzee: passswd
[14:04] <Pici> !newppa | sebastia sure
[14:05] <giwrgaras> so ill have 3 partitions: swap unfortmated, ext4 (40gb?) and the existing windows i leave it as is
[14:05] <nzee> usr13: it asks for current unix password. I haven't set any password.
[14:05] <usr13> giwrgaras: correct
[14:05] <sebastia> thanks, I'll look into it...
[14:05] <usr13> nzee: then leave it blank
[14:05] <MaurizioB> nzee: who is asking?
[14:05] <giwrgaras> how many gbs for the swap?
[14:05] <nzee> MaurizioB: passwd asks for current unix password.
[14:05] <usr13> nzee: But I'm not sure how you'd have a user account without a password....?
[14:06] <MaurizioB> leave it empty
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: how much ram do you have
[14:06] <MonkeyDust> giwrgaras  but consider creating a separate /home partition, it's easier to fresh install or reinstall afterwards
[14:06] <MaurizioB> just press enter
[14:06] <MaurizioB> (i think, I never used a no password system)
[14:06] <usr13> nzee: Is it that you have forgotten your password?
[14:06] <giwrgaras> i think this is exactly what he recommended
[14:06] <zteam> sebastia, https://launchpad.net/~sdeziel/+archive/ppa/+build/2283159
[14:06] <nzee> MaurizioB: leaving blank gives me "passwd: Authentication token manipulation error"
[14:06] <usr13> !password | nzee
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> nzee  i guess in a live session, you shouldnt need a password
[14:07] <giwrgaras> MonkeyDust a swap partition for the root, the / partition is ext4 file with 40gb alocated to it
[14:07] <giwrgaras> is that what you meant also MonkeyDust?
[14:07] <MonkeyDust> giwrgaras  no, 10-15 is enough for /
[14:08] <giwrgaras> for the swap?
[14:08] <giwrgaras> how many
[14:08] <nzee> MonkeyDust: once I goto su postgres, how do I then come back to user:ubuntu, it asks for password which I have never set.
[14:08] <usr13> MonkeyDust: He only allocated 40G for the Ubuntu install.
[14:08] <nzee> MonkeyDust: I have just started an EC2 instance running ubuntu
[14:08] <MonkeyDust> ah, missed that part
[14:08] <giwrgaras> so how many  do you suggest
[14:08] <sebastia> zteam: unfortunately i've Amd64
[14:09] <giwrgaras> the swap partition is the main partition that i should alocate more gigs?
[14:09] <usr13> giwrgaras: 40G is not much, (when you have a 500G drive).
[14:09] <usr13> giwrgaras: No
[14:09] <usr13> giwrgaras: 4G is enough
[14:10] <giwrgaras> i just want to test them, and to be honest i dont trust linux for stability issues to do anything more than postgres and browsing the internet
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: go ask Wikipedia which server OS they use....
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> giwrgaras  linux is "famed" for its stabilty, it's more stable than the mainstream OS from Redmond
[14:11] <giwrgaras> MonkeyDust crap
[14:11] <giwrgaras> maybe its safe
[14:11] <giwrgaras> maybe its better and cleverly designed
[14:11] <mumpitze1> it is definitely more stable. tons of servers run it
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: go oask ed US Military what OS they use...
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> giwrgaras  NASA uses Linux, CERN uses Linux
[14:11] <giwrgaras> and i manage to crashed it 2 times with installing chromium and firefox?
[14:12] <giwrgaras> managed *
[14:12] <giwrgaras> i had a wimu
[14:12] <mumpitze1> google is built on linux
[14:12] <giwrgaras> through windows you know
[14:12] <usr13> giwrgaras: You crashed what?
[14:12] <giwrgaras> i had a wimu
[14:12] <mumpitze1> I kinda doubt you crashed linux
[14:12] <bekks> Whats a "wimu"?
[14:13] <SoP> giwrgaras: being able to crash a linux installation doesnt prove its instability
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: want more examples of big-hitters running Linux..
[14:13] <giwrgaras> an ubuntu version 12.04
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> ?
[14:13] <mumpitze1> bekks: I think he means wubi?
[14:13] <ws2k3> hello when i try to restart my mysql server is gives me the following message Starting MySQL
[14:13] <ws2k3> . * The server quit without updating PID file (/dev/shm/mysqld.pid).
[14:13] <giwrgaras> which i installed through the windows installer
[14:13] <bekks> mumpitze1: AH! :P
[14:13] <asdf__> if a system is unable to crash itself it is limited
[14:13] <Enemtee> wubi is the problem, one of them at least
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> giwrgaras  wubi is not a real installation
[14:14] <Enemtee> ubuntu is leaving wubi for the future, i heard
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> giwrgaras  that's why you're struggling
[14:14] <Enemtee> at least official support for it
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: wubi is not a good solution
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Linux-and-Open-Source/Penguin-Moves-to-Disney/
[14:14] <giwrgaras> i saw that ActionParsnip
[14:14] <giwrgaras> i strugle for a month now
[14:15] <giwrgaras> i liked it but it was a hellish month
[14:15] <usr13> ActionParsnip: Well, he's doing a real install now, so....
[14:15] <jdoles> How can I change the default file browser to use in Firefox (it opens nautilus, while I want it to use something else)?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: so i dont get you stability whinge when so many companies use it on lage scale
[14:15] <giwrgaras> maybe they use it only for the 2 3 programs they use and absolutely nothing else
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> giwrgaras  get rid of wubi and do a real install, outside that other OS
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: wubi is a horrible thing, do a real install and you'll see its fine, if you want super stability then go for Precise
[14:16] <usr13> jdoles: "it opens nautilus" Define "it"
[14:16] <giwrgaras> do you think that is the reason?
[14:16] <giwrgaras> for my hardships so far?
[14:16] <ws2k3> hello when i try to restart my mysql server is gives me the following message Starting MySQL
[14:16] <ws2k3> . * The server quit without updating PID file (/dev/shm/mysqld.pid).
[14:16] <MonkeyDust> giwrgaras  yes
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> ws2k3: have you asked in #mysql as well
[14:16] <jdoles> usr13: when I use "open containing folder".
[14:17] <jdoles> usr13: and "it" was "firefox"
[14:17] <jdoles> usr13: that's why I said "Firefox".
[14:17] <usr13> jdoles: What exactly are you trying to do?
[14:17] <jdoles> Is usr13 a troll?
[14:17] <MaurizioB> ok, I'm trying to install lubuntu
[14:17] <Enemtee> giwrgaras: updating from a wubi-installation is sh*t from experience. do a real install. much better when upgrading kernels/headers (it works) and you get a much faster system.
[14:17] <jdoles> usr13: can you possibly *not* ask such retarded questions?
[14:18] <giwrgaras> yeah, it was also slow
[14:18] <mumpitze1> ws2k3: how did you end your mysql server?
[14:18] <usr13> jdoles: What exactly are you trying to do?
[14:18] <jdoles> I believe I already solved it myself.
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> jdoles: its a fair question. What is 'it'?
[14:18] <jdoles> Just need to test it.
[14:18] <Pici> jdoles: usr13 is one of our best helpers. Maybe if you rephrased your question we'd be able to help better.
[14:18] <Enemtee> giwrgaras: one thing though, 12.04 is good, but not the fastest system, 13.04 is much faster, but not the best overall system
[14:19] <jdoles> ActionParsnip: 1) it didn't need further explanation 2) I even said exactly what I talked about.
[14:19] <giwrgaras> which one do you suggest? (have in mind i allready have 13.04 burned on disc)
[14:20] <Kitt3n> giwrgaras, 13.04 should be fine.
[14:20] <MonkeyDust> brb
[14:20] <giwrgaras> i just want it to function and not have any more problems. speed is welcomed :)
[14:20] <Enemtee> giwrgaras: depends on what you prefer and what you do with your computer. if you game, install 13.04, if you work on it, 12.04
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: precise is LTS so supported til April 2017, Raring is only supported til January 2014
[14:20] <usr13> jdoles: We think you are on the wrong track here.  The question you asked is understandable. Give us more details about what it is you are trying to do and we can advise you better.
[14:20] <giwrgaras> yeah but i can upgrade it to a 13.10 or something cant i?
[14:21] <Enemtee> giwrgaras: yes
[14:21] <jdoles> usr13: please just stop talking to me until I ask a question again.
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> Jikan: sure, from 13.04 you can upgrade to 13.04
[14:21] <usr13> jdoles: Ok
[14:21] <jdoles> usr13: and keep in mind that it is your problem solving skills that are flawed.
[14:21] <jdoles> usr13: don't blame the user (i.e. me)
[14:21] <usr13> jdoles: Ok
[14:21] <jdoles> usr13: thank you
[14:22] <mumpitze1> jdoles: good job for getting help in the future this. thanks for letting us know how you feel about people trying to help you
[14:22] <giwrgaras> and the obvious question now: why didnt i get the normal 'installl side by side' option?
[14:22] <Kitt3n> giwrgaras, because there's no other operating system on your hard drive?
[14:22] <giwrgaras> its on the manual of 13.04 and it is also with pictures for clueless guys like me
[14:23] <giwrgaras> it is
[14:23] <usr13> giwrgaras: That's what you are doing.  But you will initially only get that when there is already some free space, or a second hard drive that has no partitions on it yet.
[14:23] <giwrgaras> a windows 8
[14:23] <Enemtee> windows 8....
[14:23] <Kitt3n> Yup.
[14:24] <zteam> sebastia, https://launchpad.net/~sdeziel/+archive/ppa/+build/2283158
[14:24] <sebastia> zteam hey thanks!
[14:26] <giwrgaras> ok so i go now: once again: swap 4gb unformated for root, ext4 50gb for data or whatever
[14:26] <giwrgaras> mayhem
[14:26] <usr13> giwrgaras: What you are headed for is a "dual boot system", which is to say that you will have Ubuntu installed beside MS Windows.  A boot loader called grub will be installed to the MBR that will give you options to boot MS Windows or Ubuntu.
[14:26] <neXyon> hello, I'm trying to learn Korean and would like to find a touch-type trainer for the korean keyboard, but all the programs like ktouch I found don't support Korean, anyone any idea?
[14:27] <SoP> giwrgaras: swap space isnt a data partition, it's an extension of your ram
[14:27] <usr13> giwrgaras: No.  swap is not for root.  The rest is.  ( / is root)
[14:27] <giwrgaras> ah so
[14:28] <usr13> giwrgaras: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough.  (But in your case, you have enough, so....)
[14:28] <usr13> giwrgaras: By "main memory"  I am referring to RAM, (Random Access Memory).
[14:29] <giwrgaras> ok c u in a while then
[14:29] <giwrgaras> and then i get the install side by side?
[14:29] <SoP> giwrgaras: you need a / (root) partition, swap space (extension of your RAM) and possibly a /home partition
[14:29] <usr13> giwrgaras: Yes.  ANd be sure to tell it to let grub boot loader be written to MBR
[14:30] <giwrgaras> SoP i have a ext4 for /home
[14:30] <giwrgaras> and a swap for ram
[14:31] <giwrgaras> 4gb
[14:31] <giwrgaras> if thats what you mean
[14:31] <usr13> giwrgaras: Yes
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: then 4.4Gb for swap
[14:31] <usr13> giwrgaras: 4G for swap partition
[14:31] <giwrgaras> why .4?
[14:31] <SoP> giwrgaras: that's perfect
[14:32] <usr13> giwrgaras: Because that is how much RAM you have.  (It is a good idea to match the swap partition to the size of your RAM).
[14:32] <SoP> what are the main advantages of gpt over mbr? I recently did a fresh install using gpt and found out the hard way my motherboard doesn't support it
[14:32] <usr13> SoP: He has only allocated 40G for the Ubuntu install and so I advised him to just use two partitions, swap and /
[14:33] <giwrgaras> ok i go im very curious to see if ive got better speed and experience from the one i had with wubi
[14:33] <Kitt3n> SoP, GPT is needed for EFI based computers, it also doesn't limit you to 4 primary partitions.
[14:34] <SoP> and what are the disadvantages of logical (extended?) partitions using mbr?
[14:35] <asim> i have just installed unbuntu 12.04 via vmware but having no sound can someone please help me???
[14:35] <cored> hello
[14:35] <cored> I'm getting this error trying to install libxml2 Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main libxml2 i386 2.7.8.dfsg-5.1ubuntu4.1
[14:35] <Kitt3n> SoP, you can have as many partitions as you want inside the extended partition, IIRC
[14:36] <asim> can someone please help me re: sound settings for ubuntu 12.04 ??
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> asim: did you enable sound in the vm settings?
[14:36] <asim> yes
[14:36] <SoP> Kitt3n: yes, but do those partitions have disadvantages compared to "native" primary partitions?
[14:36] <grass7boy> hello, we can set the keyboard shortcut in ubuntu via "gnome-control-center keyboard"
[14:36] <grass7boy> I wonder know if there is a config file that i can modify through command line
[14:36] <grass7boy> I wonder know if there is a config file that i can modify the keyboard shortcut setting through command line
[14:36] <usr13> SoP: A Master Boot Record (MBR) is a special type of boot sector at the very beginning of partitioned computer mass storage devices like fixed disks or removable drives intended for use with IBM PC-compatible systems and beyond. he MBR holds the information on how the logical partitions, containing file systems, are organized on that medium. Besides that, the MBR contains executable code to function as an operating system-independent chain boot loader in conju
[14:36] <Kitt3n> SoP, I don't know :P
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> asim: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[14:38] <SoP> Kitt3n: i was under the impression that gpt was "faster" in some way or another
[14:38] <Kitt3n> SoP, well, EFI is better than MBR
[14:39] <cored> any reason for this?
[14:39] <asim> actually linux is very new for me; can u please guide me how to check it?
[14:39] <SoP> Kitt3n: because it's more modern?
[14:39] <Kitt3n> SoP, you should just google UEFI
[14:39] <usr13> SoP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table
[14:40] <usr13> SoP: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFI
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> asim: run the command in a terminal, what is the outputted URL?
[14:42] <SoP> usr13, Kitt3n: right, I see; thanks
[14:42] <darpan> helo
[14:42] <darpan> can u help me please
[14:43] <MaurizioB> darpan: just ask your question :)
[14:43] <darpan> i jus installed ubuntu studio , new to it ... help me regaurding audio setings
[14:43] <darpan> i have m-audio micro usb
[14:43] <asim> can u please tell me how to goto the terminal actually i m running software update in Ubuntu
[14:43] <darpan> i m not geting the ohk
[14:43] <usr13> asim: Ctrl-t
[14:44] <MaurizioB> asim: or ctrl+alt+F1 to F6
[14:44] <mfilipe_> I'm trying to use regexp in the apt-get but I got this: http://pastie.org/8113035 . Anyway, I wanna remove the old linux-images and linux-headers.
[14:44] <MaurizioB> ctrl+alt+F7 to go back to graphic environment
[14:45] <MaurizioB> darpan: what is your problem?
[14:45] <darpan> hmm i have a m-audio micro usb sound card
[14:45] <darpan> i m not geting the drives
[14:45] <usr13> mfilipe: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-*list #Start at the top and work down.
[14:46] <darpan> , n now , ardous telin tht jack soundcard is req
[14:46] <draconus> hm what does smartctl -a -d ata /dev/sda do?
[14:46] <usr13> mfilipe: use apt-get
[14:46] <mfilipe> usr13: the packages which I wanna remove I know through: "aptitude search linux-image linux-headers | grep ^i"
[14:46] <draconus> i just saw a colo guy logging into my box and doing that
[14:47] <bekks> draconus: It tries to print out SMART information about /dev/sda assuming it can be accessed as ATA device.
[14:47] <usr13> mfilipe: Then uninstall them.
[14:47] <draconus> bekks just checked that out too, thanks alot for precise reply :)
[14:48] <draconus> bekks i was thinking about device operation mode change etc.
[14:48] <draconus> bekks it feels good to have an OVH sysadmin login to your box and care about your drives :)
[14:48] <darpan> ?
[14:48] <usr13> mfilipe: ls /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-*list | pastebinit  #And we will look at the list and may be able to give more specific advise.
[14:48] <ss_haze> hello, I just bought Left For Dead 2 for my ubuntu, I already had beta installations under the hood, but they added killing floor for some reason
[14:49] <draconus> nice nice: disk power-on lifetime: 24684 hours (1028 days + 12 hours)
[14:49] <MaurizioB> darpan: are you sure that your m-audio card is fully supported on linux?
[14:50] <darpan> hmm i have no idea
[14:51] <darpan> i'l have to check out
[14:51] <mfilipe> usr13: http://pastie.org/8113066
[14:51] <DJHenjin> wb usr13
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> asim: CTRL+ALT+T or run terminal from the dash or ALT+f2
[14:51] <mfilipe> I wanna all them except linux-*-3.5.0-36-* and linux-*-3.2.0-49-*
[14:52] <mfilipe> I wanna remove all except linux-*-3.5.0-36-* and linux-*-3.2.0-49-*
[14:52] <ss_haze> mfilipe, why you have multiple kernels installed
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> mfilipe: dpkg -l | grep linux-image | awk {'print$2'} | egrep -v '3.5.0-36|3.2.0-49'
[14:53] <mfilipe> ss_haze: ask the ubuntu kernel team... :P I dunno
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> ss_haze: quite normal n ubuntu
[14:53] <ss_haze> my ubuntu always removes older versions, and I use LTS
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> mfilipe: obviously ignore the metapackages (ones without version numbers in the package name)
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> ss_haze: it doesnt by default
[14:54] <usr13> mfilipe: I would first do,  sudo apt-get remove linux-image-3.2*   #That will get rid of the majority of them and simplify the other half of the process.
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> ss_haze: you may use 3rd party apps to clear them out but the postinst of kernels is not to uninstall the old, users gather lots of kernels taking up space
[14:54] <MaurizioB> ActionParsnip: lubuntu installed and working so far! thank you!
[14:54] <mfilipe> from today I'm going to remove the old kernel packages after the updates hehehe
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> MaurizioB: lots lighter, will give a snappier OS< plus no Compiz junk stinking up the place
[14:55] <usr13> mfilipe: But which one are you using now?  uname -r
[14:55] <MaurizioB> yeah, and for web testing purposes is suits fine also
[14:55] <mfilipe> ActionParsnip, usr13: is there some option to remove the old packages automatically?
[14:55] <MaurizioB> thank you so much for the tip
[14:55] <sindri> Ok, I'm still having problem running vsftpd on my server; getting "530 Non-anonymous sessions must use encryption." My config looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5846998/ and my user config like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5847003/ any help would be welcome. Thanks!
[14:56] <mfilipe> usr13: 3.8.0 but I don't wanna use it anymore because the nvidia driver doesn't compile in it
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> mfilipe: 3rd party apps can do it for you, otherwise no
[14:56] <usr13> mfilipe: Yea "3.8"  is one problem I see.  There is not 3.8
[14:57] <usr13> mfilipe: 3.8 is not in the list of installed kernels.
[14:57] <Amoz> mfilipe, http://tuxtweaks.com/2010/10/remove-old-kernels-in-ubuntu-with-one-command/
[14:58] <mfilipe> usr13: because I already removed
[14:58] <Amoz> is that what you want to do?
[14:58] <bekks> draconus: Actually I'd be worried about that ATA :P
[14:58] <usr13> mfilipe: You are using the 3.8 kernel now?
[14:58] <jimi_> Can someone recommend a music app for finding dupes, downloading music art, etc?
[14:58] <maxromanoff> What the best way to Vurtulize windows 8 on Lunix
[14:59] <usr13> mfilipe: You should switch to the kernel you want to keep BEFORE removing the ones you don't want.
[14:59] <blazemore> maxromanoff: Virtualbox
[14:59] <blazemore> jimi_: Banshee
[14:59] <usr13> mfilipe: That's the way I've always done it.
[14:59] <maxromanoff> Thanks
[14:59] <jimi_> blazemore, thanks. Are you the same blazemore from qdb?
[15:00] <blazemore> jimi_: No, but that's where I stole the name from, back in 2007
[15:00] <blazemore> jimi_: I almost certainly have more claim to it now than the original "Track 1 - Unknown Artist" quote source
[15:00] <jimi_> :D
[15:01] <maxisgoogle> Do you need to Defragment Lunix
[15:01] <maxisgoogle> like on Windows
[15:01] <blazemore> maxisgoogle: Short answer - No
[15:01] <Amoz> maxisgoogle, no
[15:01] <maxisgoogle> okay
[15:01] <maxisgoogle> Different File System?
[15:01] <bn`> hi. I have the problem that apt-get, wget (and so on) are very very slow while connecting to a host when I enable ufw (UncomplicatedFirewall). How to solve this?
[15:01] <blazemore> Yes
[15:01] <maxisgoogle> alright make Sense
[15:01] <usr13> maxisgoogle: no, it's done for you on boot-up  (what little that DOES get fragmented, which is not much).
[15:02] <usr13> bn`: pastebinit /etc/resolv.conf
[15:02] <lmat> sudo service sshd    returns no known service.
[15:02] <blazemore> maxisgoogle: There's some interesting information here http://www.howtogeek.com/115229/htg-explains-why-linux-doesnt-need-defragmenting/
[15:02] <lmat> I'm currently ssh ed into this computer that says sshd isn't running. Apparently 'ssh' is running.
[15:02] <blazemore> lmat: Do you have the package "openssh-server" installed?
[15:02] <usr13> bn`: ... and send resulting URL
[15:03] <lmat> blazemore: thanks, just a sec.
[15:03] <happyfac1> Is it possible to suppress headers being output with curl?
[15:03] <blazemore> happyfac1: curl --quiet
[15:03] <jimi_> blazemore, will banshee find songs that are titled incorrectly and rename them? i saw an app like that a while back, i think it was picard or something like that
[15:03] <lmat> blazemore: yes.
[15:03] <blazemore> happyfac1: wait no
[15:03] <blazemore> happyfac1: curl --silent
[15:03] <lmat> blazemore: (I do have openssh-server)
[15:03] <bn`> usr13: the resolving works and ping is not slow
[15:04] <lmat> If I'm understanding correctly, ssh is the client and sshd is the server-side daemon taking client connections.
[15:04] <happyfac1> blazemore: oh I already tried that, I guess it does hide the headers then... doh! thanks
[15:04] <blazemore> lmat: the service is just called ssh though
[15:04] <lmat> If sshd isn't running, it's not possible to ssh to a server.
[15:04] <blazemore> lmat: since ssh client doesn't run as a service
[15:05] <lmat> blazemore: that's confusing. Even more confusing is that I'm reading instructions that say  to run ` # service sshd reload`
[15:05] <blazemore> lmat: Are they instructions for Ubuntu?
[15:05] <lmat> blazemore: But it makes sense. Now what's also confusing is that ssh_config has "Port 22" in it.
[15:05] <lmat> blazemore: no.
[15:06] <blazemore> lmat: The distro they're aimed at probably names the ssh server service "sshd" instead of Ubuntu's "ssh"
[15:06] <mfilipe> usr13: yes
[15:06] <Azjo> hi, anyone interested in tour de france, and has android? :) need some specific help.
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> Azjo: how is that Ubuntu related?
[15:06] <lmat> blazemore: ah, thanks for clearing that up. It's OpenBSD
[15:06] <mfilipe> usr13: you don't need do that because the kernel is in memory now
[15:06] <blazemore> lmat: I would expect ssh_config to have "Port 22" in it, since that is the file which defines the default settings for the ssh client
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> Azjo: please try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:06] <mfilipe> problably it will be instable but your computer will work
[15:06] <lmat> So, a line like  "   Port 32057" daesn't have any effect in ssh_config, ja?
[15:06] <blazemore> lmat: It's just saying "by default, try to connect to hosts on port 22"
[15:06] <lmat> blazemore: oh, okay.
[15:06] <DJones> Azjo: I think there is a ##android channel
[15:06] <Azjo> meh, only 190 users in there
[15:06] <lmat> blazemore: You're helping a lot. I'll get back to work now :)
[15:07] <mfilipe> ActionParsnip, usr13: this works!!!! $ sudo apt-get remove 'linux-(image|headers)-3.5.0-(3[0-2]|2[0-9])'
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> Azjo: so?
[15:07] <blazemore> lmat: If you're trying to configure your ssh SERVER have a look in /etc/sshd_config
[15:07] <Azjo> i just went here cos there is most people here ;)
[15:07] <Pici> Azjo: And this channel is for Ubuntu support only.
[15:07] <mfilipe> but I have to do that for each branch
[15:07] <blazemore> !ot | Azjo
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> Azjo: ts offtopic here, population is moot
[15:07] <DJones> Azjo: There may be more people here, but the channel is for Ubuntu support
[15:07] <lmat> blazemore: thanks thanks!
[15:07] <Azjo> sry, had to try ;)
[15:07] <usr13> mfilipe: Good.  So look and see what you have left.
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> mfilipe: nice regexing :)
[15:08] <usr13> mfilipe: So are you keeping 3.5.0-36 ?
[15:08] <Azjo> yep.. #android is dead as usual :/
[15:10] <usr13> Azjo: They're probably all playing with their phones  ;)
[15:10] <ss_haze> angry birds trololo
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> Azjo: try #ubuntu-offtopic or ##club-ubuntu
[15:11] <ahmed_> hi plz ..i want to install whosthere on ma ubuntu 12.04 and i used terminal but it didnt work....can you help plz?
[15:11] <giwrgaras> ok i installed my ubuntu 13.04 but when i logged in i received a warning that a file was missing
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> ahmed_: how do you mean 'didnt work'....?  details please
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> ahmed_: we havent seen you install the software so you kinda have to fill us in
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> !info whosthere precise
[15:12] <ahmed_> it say unable to download ..its unlocated
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> ahmed_: its not in precise's repos
[15:13] <foolove> I have a windows hard drive and a ubuntu hard drive i want to setup grub to boot one or the other but not format the disk how can i do this?
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> !info whosthere quantal
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> !info whosthere raring
[15:13] <giwrgaras> what are the first things to do with a new ubuntu?
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: run full updates
[15:13] <ahmed_> am sorry am new user ubuntu
[15:13] <giwrgaras> where do i run them
[15:13] <Marion> I hope someone can help me, but if this isn't the right place for this question, maybe point me in the right direction … vagrant/puppet lamp VM … In my VM, dir /etc/apache2/sites-enabled has 2 files, 000-default and 1-marion.conf  How do I know which one is used?  I'm setting env vars in 1-marion.conf, and they aren't set in VM
[15:14] <blazemore> giwrgaras: It's a subjective question, but there's an article here http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-13-04
[15:14] <Ubuncat> Hello! I'd like to be reassured of some concerns with the Unity8 work in progress ... It seems to be targetted toward Touch devices, but will there be an interface for Desktops or will it become a 'corner and mouse hell' like another operating system I won't name?
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: software centre
[15:14] <blazemore> Marion: Both are used; they are loaded in alphabetical order (000-default first in this case)
[15:14] <ahmed_> dont understand
[15:14] <gotwig> how can I install qt quick 2 in ubuntu
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> ahmed_: the package name 'whosthere' is not a thing...
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> ahmed_: https://launchpad.net/whosthere   "This is discontinued."
[15:15] <ahmed_> so what i can i do ?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> ahmed_: find an alternative is my suggestion
[15:15] <giwrgaras> do i need the software updater?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: sure, then get fully updated
[15:16] <ahmed_> ok thnx
[15:16] <giwrgaras> it issued me at the beggining an error
[15:16] <Pici> !who
[15:16] <Ubuncat> I'm guessing this is not the right channel for my question then?
[15:17] <giwrgaras> i didnt managed to write it down, how can i find more
[15:17] <giwrgaras> something was missing a / something
[15:17] <Pici> Ubuncat: #ubuntu-touch *might* be a better place to ask
[15:17] <giwrgaras> partition thing i guess
[15:17] <DJones> Ubuncat: Probably not, maybe try #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> ahmed_: https://answers.launchpad.net/whosthere/+question/231055
[15:17] <usr13> giwrgaras: That's not much of a clue
[15:18] <lmat> blazemore: Thanks again, netstat reports that everything seems to be working smoothly.
[15:18] <usr13> giwrgaras: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  #From a terminal window and see what happens.
[15:18] <lmat> I am continually astounded why Windows servers still exist. They're so opaque and hard to configure...
[15:18] <blazemore> lmat: Great :)
[15:19] <giwrgaras> sudo apt-get upgrad for what?
[15:19] <lmat> giwrgaras: To upgrade everything :D
[15:19] <jgcampbell300> hello ... i was thinking of installing terminal multiplexer on xubuntu ... can anyone recommend a better multiplexer or is that the best one
[15:19] <zipy_> does lvm support raid 0?
[15:19] <djono> hello all. is there a nice app that will transfer large file sizes to usb?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> jgcampbell300: screen or tmux are both great
[15:19] <zipy_> sry raid 1 i meant
[15:19] <usr13> djono: cp
[15:20] <djono> cp?
[15:20] <nio707> hello all i have a small question about apt-get or dpkg. when i issue the command to install some application it downloaded the deb package where does it is downloaded
[15:20] <giwrgaras> how do i search for a program to download from sudo? sudo apt-get firefox?
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> nio707: /var/cache/apt/archives
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: sudo apt-get install firefox
[15:20] <usr13> nio707: when you issue what command?
[15:20] <xangua> giwrgaras: firefox is already installed in ubuntu
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> xangua: sadly
[15:21] <giwrgaras> yeah i know just asking. but what if 'firefox' is not the exact name?
[15:21] <zipy_> i think he wants so search the repo for sth
[15:21] <xangua> ActionParsnip: has gotten better :)
[15:21] <djono> usr13 cp?
[15:21] <jgcampbell300> ActionParsnip, ya i was reading up on Byobu, tmux, and terminal multiplexer ... just not sure witch to go with lol
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: you can use:  apt-cache search name
[15:21] <usr13> giwrgaras: apt-cache search <key-word-here>
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: or use software centre
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> jgcampbell300: try them all, see which suits you
[15:22] <kalakj> hello everyone, i am using ubuntu 12.04 and i got this error everytime, after 10-15 min. of login
[15:22] <jgcampbell300> ActionParsnip, will they conflict at all ?
[15:22] <kalakj> The login keyring did not get unlocked when you logged into your computer.
[15:22] <blazemore> I use Screen cos I'm old-school like that: plus, my needs are extremely simple and I already know how to use it
[15:22] <usr13> giwrgaras: Yea, as ActionParsnip points out, software centre may be a bit more user friendly, but you can do it either way.
[15:22] <giwrgaras> i think ill try to learn the terminal maybe its worth it
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> jgcampbell300: no, you will run them ni a terminal as you need them
[15:22] <blazemore> kalakj: That's not an error, that's by design
[15:22] <usr13> giwrgaras: Oh, it's worth it.
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> HisaoNakai: it is worth it but if the OS is new to you I' use the GUI til you feel confident
[15:23] <giwrgaras> can i find the system properties something like cmds systeminfo? and what are the programs installed?
[15:23] <jgcampbell300> ActionParsnip, ahh ... ok thanks for the info ... i been learning to use screen but i am trying to work with several terminals at once
[15:23] <zipy_> kalakj, if u dont need ur old keyring anymore u can simply create a new one
[15:23] <bekks> giwrgaras: dpkg -l lists your installed software packages
[15:23] <jimi_> Anyone know how to mount mtp devices, like my android phone
[15:24] <kalakj> blazemore: i do not want it´;and i do not want it to appear as well
[15:24] <blazemore> kalakj: Do you have automatic login?
[15:24] <xangua> jimi_: i just plug in
[15:24] <giwrgaras> great
[15:24] <kalakj> blazemore: i use my finger print to autnenticate
[15:25] <usr13> giwrgaras: ls -ltr /var/lib/dpkg/info/*list will show you the list in the order they are installed, (newest last).
[15:25] <blazemore> kalakj: http://askubuntu.com/questions/68292/how-to-auto-unlock-keyring-manager
[15:25] <jimi_> xangua, i dont think ubuntu has mtpfs support out of the box.. i think you need a fs package, etc.. im looking into it now
[15:25] <kalakj> blazemore: also it appear, even if i supply pass. via keyboard
[15:25] <kalakj> blazemore: let me seee it
[15:25] <xangua> jimi_: but it looks like my external sd is not read
[15:26] <MaurizioB> have to go, thanks for your help everybody
[15:26] <blazemore> jimi_: What version of mtp?
[15:26] <blazemore> jimi_: of Ubuntu rather
[15:26] <DJones> jimi_: Are you using an older version of Ubuntu? The drivers were updated in 13.04 and I've not had any issues connecting my Galaxy S3
[15:26] <jimi_> DJones, im running 12.04
[15:26] <blazemore> jimi_: I don't know if 12.04 has proper MTP support
[15:27] <DJones> jimi_: Before 13.04 it was very hit & miss, I tried gMTP but it wasn't that successful, I ended up installing Airdroid on the phone and connecting via wifi using a web browser
[15:27] <blazemore> jimi_: In fact I'm pretty sure it was rubbish before 13.04
[15:27] <blazemore> jimi_: I ended up installing an SSH server on my phone and mounting it in nautilus
[15:27] <PhantomPhreak53> When I do apt-get dist-upgrade, it no longer shows kernels but I know there is new kernels available? What is the package I install to restore this function
[15:28] <blazemore> PhantomPhreak53: How do you know there are new kernels available? What kernel are you currently on?
[15:28] <blazemore> brb all
[15:28] <jrib> PhantomPhreak53: what ubuntu version?
[15:29] <PhantomPhreak53> 12.04
[15:29] <jrib> PhantomPhreak53: dpkg -l '*linux-image*'
[15:29] <zipy_> jimi_,  use go-mtpfs to mount android
[15:29] <PhantomPhreak53> and currently on 3.2.0-43
[15:29] <PhantomPhreak53> I have another box with the exact same setup and it's on -49
[15:29] <zipy_> but its not in ubuntu repos
[15:30] <PhantomPhreak53> This happened to me once before and I just had to install linux-security
[15:30] <PhantomPhreak53> or something
[15:30] <PhantomPhreak53> I forget
[15:30] <jgcampbell300> what do you guys think about Terminator
[15:30] <zipy_> the movie? x)
[15:30] <jrib> PhantomPhreak53: pastebin the output of that command
[15:30] <kalakj> blazemore: i tried this method, but it is not working for me, i have done all this but default option is not appearing for me, in passwords and keys window
[15:30] <jimi_> blazemore, i can just apt-get distupgrade to go to 13.0 right?
[15:31] <kalakj> i have passwords: login option
[15:31] <kalakj> and i did the same in this
[15:31] <kalakj> i also tried seahorse
[15:31] <MonkeyDust> jimi_  use do-release-upgrade to go to the next version
[15:31] <zipy_> kalakj, http://askubuntu.com/questions/867/how-can-i-stop-being-prompted-to-unlock-the-default-keyring-on-boot
[15:32] <DJones> jimi_: Bear in mind you'll have to go through 12.10 before you can upgrade to 13.04
[15:32] <jimi_> MonkeyDust, I tried that 'no new releases found'
[15:32] <kalakj> zipy let me see it
[15:32] <jimi_> DJones, i am in 12.10.. not sure why i said 12.04 earlier
[15:32] <zipy_> jimi_,  use go-mtpfs to mount android
[15:32] <DJones> jimi_: ok :)
[15:32] <zipy_> but its not in ubuntu repositorys
[15:33] <Faiyaz> need help with passphrase promt, everytime i do git push, I am asked to put the passphrase, how can i make the ssh-agent do this automatically
[15:34] <jimi_> MonkeyDust, shouldn't it show a couple versions?
[15:34] <jgcampbell300> anyone know how to get rid of all the flooding in xchat
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> jimi_: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/mount-nexus-4-on-ubuntu
[15:34] <DJones> !quietxchat | jgcampbell300
[15:34] <jimi_> ActionParsnip, thanks, looking now
[15:35] <vsilv> hey if I install directly with github, how can I use the programm via console from everywhere?
[15:35] <jgcampbell300> ty
[15:35] <sindri> Ok, I'm still having problem running vsftpd on my server; getting "530 Non-anonymous sessions must use encryption." My config looks like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5846998/ and my user config like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5847003/ any help would be welcome. Thanks!
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> sindri: ask in #vsftpd too
[15:37] <blazemore> sindri: possibly also ask in #ubuntu-server although that channel is slower
[15:37] <sindri> ActionParsnip: done that, seems that channel is pretty dead - last time I asked there it took two days
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> sindri: nice :(
[15:37] <zipy> sindri i would prefer to use ssh for sftp ;)
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> ftp must die
[15:37] <giwrgaras> this gnu emacs editor can run as a python ide?
[15:37] <giwrgaras> do you know?
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: sure, pyton code is just text, why not
[15:38] <blazemore> giwrgaras: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/PythonProgrammingInEmacs#toc2
[15:38] <blazemore> giwrgaras: I googled "emacs as a Python IDE" and clicked the first result
[15:38] <giwrgaras> youre talented
[15:39] <blazemore> Thanks
[15:39] <kalakj> zipy: thanks, i think it has been solved
[15:39] <trueneu> I use 'Emacs for Python', blazemore.
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: takes a lot of talent to click the first link, I usually slip and hit the 3rd
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> blazemore: wish I was awesome :)
[15:40] <blazemore> ActionParsnip: Yeah it took practise to get this good
[15:40] <kalakj> if problem appear again, there is ubuntu community to help us
[15:40] <carl__> Hello, Im having an issue with my mouse.
[15:40] <trueneu> ActionParsnip, for me it's fourth. And 90% chance of porn there...
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> if everything else fails, join #ubuntu
[15:40] <blazemore> carl__: What's wrong with it?
[15:40] <carl__> The buttons work for a few seconds, then stop working and I have to unplug it and plug it back in.
[15:41] <blazemore> carl__: Are you on a laptop?
[15:41] <carl__> No, Im on a desktop.
[15:41] <carl__> Its a RAT 9 Wireless.
[15:41] <trueneu> carl__, wired / wireless ?
[15:41] <trueneu> I think it may be a module issue.
[15:41] <blazemore> carl__: sudo apt-get remove laptop-mode-tools perhaps ?
[15:41] <Reacto> In Windows, if you put the sensitivity to the 6th point you'll get close to little interference from Windows itself when it comes to sensitivity, any way to get this in Ubuntu too?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> carl__: are there any bugs reported?
[15:42] <blazemore> carl__: I found this http://neogeek83.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/rat-9-mouse-in-ubuntu-1104.html
[15:42] <carl__> How do I look for errors?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> carl__: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=RAT+9+mouse+ubuntu&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb   couple videos there, have you tried those?
[15:42] <carl__> Its hard to navigate when your mouse is not working.
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> carl__: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ScDa8Qqqgc
[15:43] <blazemore> carl__: Do you have a different mouse you can use in the meantime?
[15:43] <carl__> This is my only mouse.
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> carl__: true, ALT+TAB and ALT+SHIFT+TAB are your friends
[15:44] <kylepotts> has anyone tried using a usb video card in Linux?
[15:44] <adamk> Probably someone somewhere has.
[15:44] <whoever> kylepotts: what, that even exists
[15:45] <cantelope> Hello Ubuntu, can anyone help clarify the implications of skipping partition tables and partitioning as a whole? Googling the topic shows that there is much disagreement and misinformation since the majority of results said "you MUST have a partition before you can format with a filesystem" I know this isn't true because currently have an EXT4 laid out on a raw block device.
[15:45] <kylepotts> adamk: yep they do.
[15:45] <adamk> kylepotts: Yes, I know they do.
[15:45] <whoever> kylepotts: so do you have one ?
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> cantelope: its a good thing to partition, also remember the target audience of Ubuntu
[15:46] <blazemore> carl__: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak; wget http://rory.sh/files/mousepatch -O - | sudo tee -a /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> cantelope: yes, its not absolutely needed but partitioning makes the storage more sane
[15:46] <kylepotts> whoever: no, I am wondering if anyone here had tried one with worked, or at least knew of one with opensouce drivers
[15:46] <blazemore> carl__: And then reboot
[15:47] <bekks> blazemore: carl__: No need to reboot - just restart the login manager.
[15:47] <blazemore> carl__: That's true ( bekks will logging out and in do it, if you're the only logged-in user?)
[15:47] <bekks> blazemore: Yes.
[15:48] <cantelope> ActionParsnip: Running on Ubuntu Server 10.04 and not sure where else to ask. I figured it would make growing easier since I won't have to expand both the partition and FS. I see strange things when I look at the block devices using 'lshw' and that made me wonder if there are any other caveats to not having a partition (other than only being able to have one FS - that is what I want)
[15:48] <carl__> No such file or directory.
[15:48] <blazemore> I like Linux Mint's way: hitting ctrl-alt-backspace once does nothing, but twice quickly will restart X the old fashioned way
[15:48] <blazemore> carl__: run "sudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf" first
[15:49] <whoever> kylepotts: check out the iogear vga usb
[15:49] <carl__> No such file or directory.
[15:49] <blazemore> carl__: Well, try "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and then paste the contents of http://rory.sh/files/mousepatch into it
[15:50] <carl__> The Xorg.conf doesnt exists it seems
[15:50] <blazemore> I'm reminded of XKCD 963 :)
[15:51] <ahow628> Would someone have a minute to help me troubleshoot? I tried googling my problem, but came up with nothing.
[15:51] <blazemore> ahow628: What's your problem?
[15:51] <carl__> I cant save the file, it says the directory does not exist.
[15:51] <jgcampbell300> can anyone tell me if i have to use screen commands in side of Terminator or does it happen on its own ?
[15:52] <blazemore> carl__: You are using the correct capitalisation? abc is not the same as ABC
[15:52] <ahow628> blazemore: I am using Ubuntu 12.04.2 live usb on my Chromebook and wireless, trackpad, X, etc work fine. After I install, none of them work.
[15:52] <blazemore> carl__: If you are, then try "sudo mkdir /etc/X11" first
[15:52] <blazemore> ahow628: Which Chromebook?
[15:52] <ahow628> CR-48
[15:53] <whoever> kylepotts: see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2OCKRh-3ko
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> is that ARM?
[15:53] <ahow628> blazemore: I had it installed before, then upgraded to 13.04 and it would take multiple reboots to boot up.
[15:53] <MonkeyDust> ahow628  is that ARM?
[15:53] <ahow628> I believe so. I had 12.04 installed when it first came out, so I know it should work. Maybe I did use arm, but I don't think so.
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> ahow628  is this useful https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM
[15:54] <blazemore> ahow628: How about this? http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/chrubuntu-one-script-to-rule-them-all_31.html
[15:54] <carl__> Okay, lets see if that worked. Seems better so far.
[15:54] <whoever> kylepotts: are you going to try to use this with your box or a rasbarry pi
[15:55] <ahow628> I can boot amd64 live usb and it works fine. I can install amd64 and it boots, but trackpad is broken, wireless is broken, and the resolution is 800x600.
[15:55] <nzee> what does this command do? "sudo su - postgres"
[15:55] <bekks> nzee: It uses sudo to become "postgres" user.
[15:55] <blazemore> nzee: changes you to be the "postgres" user
[15:55] <t0k3> joint gurkensalat
[15:56] <t0k3> join gurkensalat
[15:56] <carl__> I think that its working righ tnow. :)
[15:56] <blazemore> carl__: Great :)
[15:56] <t0k3> join #gurkensalat
[15:56] <carl__> Thank you. :)
[15:56] <blazemore> t0k3: /join #gurkensalat
[15:56] <ahow628> Sorry, my mistake, it is not ARM, it is Atom.
[15:56] <t0k3> thx
[15:56] <nzee> bekks: does it create a new user "postgres", if yes what is its password so that I can enter again?
[15:57] <blazemore> nzee: It won't create the user if the user doesn't already exist. It only will switch to an existing user
[15:57] <giwrgaras> autocomplete in terminal isnot working?
[15:57] <cantelope> ActionParsnip: I also just discovered this and am not sure if it actually means anything. On the same system, I have another md block device which DOES have GPT but gdisk gives this scary output about it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5847183/
[15:57] <carl__> Okay, so I installed GLX Dock, how do I get rid of the task bar to the right?
[15:58] <t0k3> what  i don't get is why does not every irc client automatically insert the # before the channel?
[15:58] <nzee> blazemore: is there a way to get its password?
[15:58] <blazemore> nzee: you can't get the password, but you can change it
[15:58] <blazemore> nzee: "sudo passwd postgres"
[15:59] <ahow628> blazemore: It is like the drivers for wireless, trackpad, and X are there for the live usb, but then they disappear during install or they try to switch to non-functioning drivers
[15:59] <iceroot> nzee: please remember that the postgresql user is not a local system-user
[15:59] <iceroot> nzee: i am talking about the database user itself
[16:00] <nzee> iceroot: ok
[16:00] <ahow628> blazemore: also I don't think I need that chrubuntu script because I've completely gotten rid of the chromeos partitions and only have ubuntu installed.
[16:01] <lovetokill> hello
[16:01] <carl__> Well, at least I have got my mouse working now. :)
[16:02] <nzee> blazemore: "sudo passwd postgres" asks for "[sudo] password for postgres: " what do I enter?
[16:02] <blazemore> nzee: Not as postgres, as your normal user
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> nzee: you need to su to your own user first, then run the command to set to password of the user
[16:05] <iceroot> nzee: sudo passwd psotgres is asking your YOUR userpassword after that it will ask for a new postgres password
[16:05] <iceroot> nzee: sudo is always asking for the userpassword for the person which is calling sudo
[16:06] <beandog> You don't need sudo to get in postgres
[16:06] <beandog> psql -U postgres template1
[16:06] <nzee> blazemore: ActionParsnip iceroot Thanks, it worked. Had to change the user and it worked.
[16:06] <iceroot> nzee: but again postgres is not a normal system-user it is a database user (imo)
[16:06] <geri> hi
[16:08] <export> hi geri do you need any help or have any questions? if so go ahead and ask and if anyone can help i'm sure they will
[16:09] <blazemore> iceroot: no, if you install postgresql server on Ubuntu, it runs as its own system user
[16:09] <geri> i can not run any update from any mirror using sudo apt-get update....but i can ping them   .... it just stops here: 0% [Connecting to mirrors.mit.edu (<IP_ADDRESS>)] [Connecting to extras.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]  ... any ideas?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> geri: switch to the main update server
[16:10] <giwrgaras> i cannot access my windows!! why is that? it automatically loads ubuntu
[16:10] <geri> which one?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: run:   sudo update-grub   do you see windows mentioned
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> giwrgaras  press esc to enter the grub menu
[16:10] <giwrgaras> and it doesnt have an option for dual boot?! i hope it didnt delete the other
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> geri: THE main update server, its selectable in software centre
[16:10] <MonkeyDust> geri  if you can reach the ip aadress, but not the url, it may be a dns issue
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: still not given the output of my command....
[16:10] <giwrgaras> it did something
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: use http://pastie.org to host (or similar)
 are you in ubuntu right now?
[16:11] <geri> monkeydust same issue: sudo apt-get update 0% [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)] [Connecting to extras.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[16:11] <giwrgaras> well i have no other os1! so yes
[16:11] <geri> mokeydust i can ping them all
[16:11] <MonkeyDust> geri  can you ping google.com ?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: also add to the paste: sudo fdisk -l
[16:12] <geri> ping archive.ubuntu.com PING archive.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>) 56(84) bytes of data. 64 bytes from urayuli.canonical.com (<IP_ADDRESS>): icmp_req=1 ttl=36 time=167 ms
[16:12] <geri> mokeydust
[16:12] <MonkeyDust> geri  ok
[16:12] <geri> any idea?
[16:12] <trueneu> iptables or anything blocking outgoing connections?
[16:13] <MonkeyDust> geri  as ActionParsnip suggested, a different server, maybe
[16:13] <geri> mokeydust i already tried 5 different servers
[16:13] <giwrgaras> http://pastie.org/8113231
[16:13] <geri> all same issue
[16:13] <dojha00> Hey guys, can u plz help me with --- today i was trying to install ubuntu 12.04 in my compaq laptop and it's got stuck at "kernel panic- not syncing: Out of memory and no killable processes... bla bla bla and then  panic occurred, switching back to text console".. plz.
[16:13] <giwrgaras> i did absolutely what youve told me to and i didnt check it to delete any other os!!
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: there is no NTFS partition there, did you use Wubi?
[16:13] <giwrgaras> 'select other i chose'
[16:14] <giwrgaras> no from disc
[16:14] <giwrgaras> a normal install
[16:14] <giwrgaras> a normal 'other' install
[16:14] <geri> mokeydust...?
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: then you will need to recover data using backups
[16:14] <MonkeyDust> dojha00  first on my mind: it's 64bit ubuntu on 32bit hardware, or the iso may be corrupt
[16:15] <giwrgaras> motherfucking piece of shit
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> dojha00: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[16:15] <giwrgaras> thats for a nice friday afternoon
[16:15] <holstein> !language | giwrgaras
[16:15] <MonkeyDust> geri  no further advice, repeat the issue every 10-15 minutes or so, in one line
[16:15] <asim> i m having sound / audio issues with my newly installed ubuntu 12.04 via vmware can someone please help me???
[16:15] <trueneu> geri, do you have iptables or anything else that may block outgoing connections running?
[16:15] <bekks> giwrgaras: Thats sounds like "I diont have backups, since my data was too worthless for taking a backup".
[16:15] <export> giwrgaras: you formatted your hard drive...we didn't do it.
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> asim: if you can run the command I gave earlier, it will help
[16:16] <holstein> giwrgaras: the installer gives the option to wipe the drive.. did you have backups?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> asim: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[16:16] <giwrgaras> sounds like 'well yeah ' that would be an easy one like with windows'
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> asim: run that in a terminal, what is the URL generated please
[16:16] <dojha00> #MonkeyDust nope it's not that problem before i had the same OS installed but after that someone accessed my laptop and deleted the drive in which ubuntu was installed and after that again i tried to install same OS(ubuntu 12.04) and it's showing error.
[16:16] <geri> trueneu i use a proxy server
[16:17] <bekks> giwrgaras: A backup concept thats needs your OS to be operational to recover data - is not worth even thinking about it.
[16:17] <trueneu> Could it be the problem then, geri?
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> geri: did you tell apt-get to use a proxy useing apt.conf ?
[16:17] <giwrgaras> youre a clever one arent you?
[16:17] <giwrgaras> were talking about a simple os install not rocket science
[16:17] <MonkeyDust> dojha00  maybe there is some configuration that hasnt been deleted well
[16:18] <giwrgaras> but its so crippled that it fucked up from the beggining
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: did you resize your NTFS partition at some point?
[16:18] <giwrgaras> god
[16:18] <holstein> giwrgaras: look at the drive, and see what partitions are there.. and please watch your language
[16:18] <geri> actionparsnip no i did not
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> geri: thats why it wont connect then?
[16:18] <holstein> giwrgaras: the volunteers here understand how frustrated you must feel.. but please try and be cooporative
[16:19] <giwrgaras> if i chose 'YEAH DELETE WIN' then you know i wouldnt mention
[16:19] <export> giwrgaras: was there any important information on your hard drive? or was it just windows?
[16:19] <h00k> giwrgaras: also, please keep the language appropriate in here as well
[16:19] <holstein> giwrgaras: look and confirm that the window partition is there or not
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: did you resize your NTFS partition at some point?
[16:19] <geri> actionparsnip cant i enter the proxy into .bashrc ?
[16:19] <giwrgaras> it was there
[16:19] <giwrgaras> saw it didnt touch it
[16:19] <giwrgaras> gone to 450000 value at some time
[16:19] <blazemore> giwrgaras: Have you tried running "sudo update-grub" ?
[16:19] <iceroot> blazemore: ok didnt know that with the postgres user, thank you
[16:20] <blazemore> geri: You can, but then it'll only work for the user whose .bashrc you've edited. That might be fine though; it's probabl what I'd do
[16:20] <giwrgaras> yes i did it
[16:20] <geri_> ActionParsnip cant i enter the proxy into bashrc?
[16:20] <giwrgaras> http://pastie.org/8113231#10
[16:20] <dojha00> sorry got something important to do will be back soon. :(
[16:20] <ActionParsnip> geri: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5847260/
[16:20] <blazemore> giwrgaras: And when you enter the Grub menu by holding Shift during boot, does the entry for Windows show up>
[16:21] <giwrgaras> no ive got no idea that i had or have to hold shift
[16:21] <excesseye> :quit
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: you needed to resize your NTFS in order to install Ubuntu, Win Vista and later can do this in Windows
[16:21] <excesseye> :q
[16:21] <export> hey could it be just a missing entry? idk tbh things look bleak but maybe?
[16:21] <geri_> actionparsnip arent there some global proxy settings in bashrc?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> geri: that's mine, change it to yours obviously
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> geri: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/apt.conf
[16:22] <giwrgaras> sorry but what you told me?
[16:22] <giwrgaras> i think you were here
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> geri: as far as I know, apt uses its own
[16:22] <giwrgaras> when i was asking what to do:
[16:22] <giwrgaras> just a 4g swap and a 50g ext4
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: resize then install to free space
[16:23] <giwrgaras> oh now you tell me i asked about 4 times?
[16:23] <ahow628> blazemore: I'm going to try downloading 12.04 (not 12.04.2) which was the release when I first installed Ubuntu on my CR-48. We'll see if that works.
[16:23] <giwrgaras> 5?
[16:23] <giwrgaras> GOD
[16:23] <drasko> hi all. How to fetch linux source for currently used debian version?
[16:24] <drasko> apt-get install linux-source ?
[16:24] <drasko> I want to recompile wifi driver
[16:24] <theodorDiaconu> I am trying to connect to a cisco vpn on ubuntu 12.04 lts and under no circumstances it doesn't let me
[16:24] <asim> nothing happened
[16:24] <theodorDiaconu> I don't get a propper error, all I receive is "cannot connect to vpn" thing
[16:24] <SwedeMike> !details | theodorDiaconu
[16:25] <bekks> drasko: Which ubuntu version do you have?
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> giwrgaras  partitioning is the hardest part, it kept me from trying linux, years ago
[16:25] <SwedeMike> theodorDiaconu: are you trying to use vpnc ?
[16:25] <drasko> bekks, precise LTS
[16:25] <giwrgaras> it isnt partition i asked 5 times
[16:25] <giwrgaras> 'what to do?'
[16:25] <giwrgaras> 'this and that?'
[16:25] <giwrgaras> 'yeah yeah'
[16:25] <giwrgaras> NO WINDOWS
[16:26] <asim> i used the command but nothing happened
[16:26] <blazemore> giwrgaras: When you installed Ubuntu, how did you resize your NTFS partition?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> asim: did a file get downloaded?
[16:26] <asim> nops
[16:26] <theodorDiaconu> SwedeMike: don't have anymore details, sorry
[16:26] <giwrgaras> there werent much options friend
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> asim: can you pastebin the command you ran as well as the output please
[16:26] <giwrgaras> and to begin with
[16:26] <giwrgaras> ~ NO ALONGSIDE WINDOWS INSTALL
[16:26] <theodorDiaconu> SwedeMike: I have VPN Type: vpnc in the vpn config entry
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> giwrgaras: then why didnt you stop?
[16:27] <asim> can u please tell me how to pastebin the command?
[16:27] <giwrgaras> because i came here and asked about 4 5 times what to do?
[16:27] <asim> i m new to linux
[16:27] <giwrgaras> 'hey guys i have this and this'
[16:27] <blazemore> giwrgaras: That can happen when you don't shut Windows down cleanly; the Ubuntu installer doesn't recognise the ntfs partition. What you've done, from what I can tell, is blindly continue without understanding what you were doing, now you've deleted your ntfs partition and you're blaming anyone but yourself
[16:27] <giwrgaras> 'yeah do that'
[16:27] <bekks> !pastebinit | asim
[16:27] <giwrgaras> KAPUT
[16:28] <blazemore> giwrgaras: If I were you I'd think about what lessons you can take from this experience
[16:28] <giwrgaras> yeah
[16:28] <giwrgaras> stay away from this peiece of shit
[16:28] <giwrgaras> and dont ask here
[16:28] <bekks> giwrgaras: Please watch your language.
[16:28] <giwrgaras> thanks brainiar
[16:29] <blazemore> giwrgaras: That sounds like a plan actually; anything that results in you not coming back in here can only be a good thing
[16:29] <asim> so do i need to swtich to the graphic mode in ubuntu to downlaod / install this utility?
[16:29] <giwrgaras> and lose the pleasure of your smart company?
[16:29] <bekks> asim: No, you can install it from any commandline - text mode, terminal graphics environment, ssh shell, etc.
[16:29] <brontosaurusrex> asim, apt-get install yourutility
[16:29] <giwrgaras> were else can someone find such help
[16:30] <bekks> giwrgaras: Actually, you will. Setting you onto ignore because you dont want to stop ranting.
[16:30] <MonkeyDust> giwrgaras  what did you do, to make it so troublesome?
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> asim: copy the text as you expect and go to the pastebin then past ethe text there, when the page changes, copy the new URL and paste THAT in here
[16:30] <giwrgaras> a bekks ignored me thats terrible
[16:30] <drasko> and?
[16:30] <blazemore> giwrgaras: Setting you to ignore, too
[16:30] <asim> can u please tell me the command ??
[16:31] <bazhang> giwrgaras, blazemore thats enough
[16:31] <giwrgaras> another smartass ignored me
[16:31] <blazemore> It's OK I'm going home now anyway
[16:31] <MonkeyDust> giwrgaras  how did this all start?
[16:32] <giwrgaras> by having a crazy idea of installing ubuntu
[16:32] <giwrgaras> to be honest
[16:32] <giwrgaras> all other are meaningless now
[16:32] <giwrgaras> lost all my data?
[16:32] <BluesKaj> giwrgaras, more help depends a lot on attitude ....no one here owes you anything , so a word to the wise should be sufficient
[16:32] <giwrgaras> yes
[16:32] <MonkeyDust> giwrgaras  start from the beginning, what brought you here?
[16:32] <rlw> hello ubuntu head, lol, my wireless logo where the time displays isn't showing
[16:33] <holstein> rlw: but, the newtwork is working?
[16:33] <holstein> !volunteers | giwrgaras
[16:34] <holstein> giwrgaras: have you looked to see that the partition is gone? or is windows just not booting from grub?
[16:34] <rlw> holstein: yes that's correct
[16:34] <drasko> how do we change linux code in ubuntu
[16:34] <drasko> kernel
[16:34] <giwrgaras> how can i look?
[16:35] <holstein> giwrgaras: if you had come here before hand, before doing *anything* that would resize *any* partition, i would have suggested that you have a good backup
[16:35] <drasko> how to fetch ubuntu linux of the curent distribution
[16:35] <giwrgaras> holstein i was here BEFORE
[16:35] <bekks> drasko: Whats the output of "uname -a" please?
[16:35] <drasko> kernel source
[16:35] <giwrgaras> MUCH BEFORE doing anything
[16:35] <drasko> Linux Hegel 3.5.0-34-generic #55~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 7 16:25:50 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[16:35] <BluesKaj> drasko, read the topic
[16:35] <giwrgaras> and spoke and asked 5 times the same thing
[16:35] <holstein> giwrgaras: so, you have a backup, then?
[16:35] <MonkeyDust> !kernel | drasko start here
[16:35] <giwrgaras> so thats why i was asking
[16:36] <giwrgaras> if i was to destroy everything i could do it alone i didnt need outside help
[16:36] <holstein> giwrgaras: you can run "sudo fdisk -l" from a terminal, and share that via a pastebin, if you need help parsing it.. a volunteer will help
[16:36] <wilee-nilee> drasko, do you have one at a time questions in detaill?
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> drasko  the current kernel used is -28
[16:36] <giwrgaras> http://pastie.org/8113231#10
[16:36] <holstein> giwrgaras: confirm that you have a problem, by checking for the partition..
[16:36] <MonkeyDust> -25*
[16:36] <drasko> how do we fetch kernel source
[16:36] <rlw> also can I download anti-virus software, not just command line software
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> drasko  read the link ubottu sent you
[16:37] <geri_> MonkeyDust
[16:37] <geri_> it works now
[16:37] <geri_> but arent there some global proxy settings?
[16:37] <holstein> giwrgaras: so, Disk /dev/sda: 500.1 GB is the only disk you have in the machine?
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> !info clamtk | rlw
[16:37] <geri_> why has apt its own conf file?
[16:37] <giwrgaras> yes
[16:37] <ss_haze> rlw, you can download clamav