[12:11] <ubotu> New bug: #104569 in xserver-xorg-video-via (main) "glxgears crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104569
[01:35] <ubotu> New bug: #13530 in linux-restricted-modules-2.6.15 (restricted) "nvidia-glx crashes/lockups" [Medium,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/13530
[08:52] <ubotu> New bug: #103416 in libx11 (main) "after upgrade opera segfault" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/103416
[10:20] <ubotu> New bug: #104694 in xorg-server (main) "[apport]  Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104694
[11:33] <ubotu> New bug: #50451 in xorg (main) "Mouse movement wreak havoc" [Undecided,Needs info]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/50451
[01:01] <ubotu> New bug: #104742 in xrandr (main) "doesnt allow rotation to be set" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104742
[01:25] <ubotu> New bug: #104750 in libxrender (main) "dapper: thunderbird crashes after upgrade at 2007-03-11 when ms-ttf-tahoma installed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104750
[01:45] <ubotu> New bug: #104757 in xorg-server (main) "[apport]  Xorg crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104757
[01:51] <ubotu> New bug: #104761 in mesa (main) "[apport]  glxinfo crashed with SIGSEGV" [Undecided,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/104761
[02:35] <ubotu> New bug: #95231 in xkeyboard-config (main) "[gnome-keyboard-properties]  l10n is broken" [Low,Unconfirmed]  https://launchpad.net/bugs/95231
[06:31] <pochu> hey tepsipakki :-) how does the x-x-v-intel testing goes?
[06:31] <pochu> will have it in universe for feisty? :-)
[06:34] <tepsipakki> it was uploaded but rejected because of a missing copyright files
[06:35] <tepsipakki> it will be added later this week
[06:36] <pochu> cool :)
[06:36] <crimsun> nice
[06:37] <tepsipakki> funny that it got in debian :)
[06:37] <tepsipakki> since the package is basically the same
[06:40] <Treenaks> tepsipakki: with the broken copyright files? :)
[06:40] <tepsipakki> yes
[06:40] <Treenaks> tepsipakki: wow.. because they're really anal about that (not even ipw2200 is working in etch for me.. *growl*)


[01:56] <xubuntu148> hey. what is different between Ubuntu and Xubuntu?
[02:00] <pleia2> xubuntu148: different desktop environment and default applications
[02:00] <xubuntu148> in your opinion better or worse?
[02:01] <pleia2> it depends on the user
[02:02] <xubuntu148> How do you mean?
[02:05] <pleia2> everyone has their own preferences, one is not "better" than the other
[02:08] <xubuntu346> hello all
[02:18] <caliche> hi
[02:19] <Unit193> !hi
[02:20] <caliche> i'm new in the world of free software
[02:21] <xubuntu346> thank you
[02:23] <caliche> not speak English
[04:42] <xubuntu416> Hello
[04:44] <Guest52352> need helpz, xubuntu problem
[04:44] <Unit193> !ask
[04:45] <Guest52352> i have a 38 gb hard drive, installed xubuntu, it says 4.1 gb free space is left
[04:46] <Guest52352> in "file system" folder
[04:46] <Unit193> Type  df -h  in a terminal window.
[04:47] <Unit193> /dev/sda1           36G   16G   18G  48% /    Is example output from mine.
[04:48] <Guest52352> mine says 36g 30g 4.2g 88%
[04:49] <Unit193> Did you download anything big or somesuch?
[04:50] <Guest52352> no
[04:50] <Guest52352> i updated and stuff, downloaded a few songs, nothing big
[04:51] <Unit193> du -xk | sort -n | tail -20    That'll show you the 20 biggest dirs on the filesystem.
[04:54] <Psykus> grr, had an awesome look going on my old xubuntu install, now can't remember what themes I used, though I have a screenshot. really should have backed things up
[04:55] <Unit193> Heh, that's typically a good idea, though now you have to look for ones that work with GTK2 and GTK3.
[04:56] <Psykus> http://i.imgur.com/x7OHt.png
[04:57] <Unit193> Not much I can say other than "Looks great", and "Did you check xfce-look and gnome-look?"
[04:57] <Psykus> it might be atolm with a different window decoration...yeah i'm looking around now
[04:57] <Unit193> Fri, 04 May 2012 00:57:49 -0400
[04:57] <Unit193> Woops, wrong button. >_>
[05:08] <foobArrr> why is there "Greybird" and "greybird" in my theme list?
[05:09] <Unit193> One is a symlink to be compatible with upgrades.
[05:10] <Unit193> ls -l /usr/share/themes |grep -i greybird
[06:47] <Jonne_> anyone know how to properly get compiz to autostart with the session? i put it both in xfce4-session.xml and application startup, but it still won't start with it enabled half the time
[08:20] <Kingsy> guys, I am having a weird problem. A windows width is stuck at the width of the screen. I can resize the window vertically.. but horizontally it just wont move.. anyone had this before?
[08:29] <xuserx> hello
[08:29] <xuserx> :)
[08:31] <mips1911> hi
[08:39] <xuserx> can anyone help me ? i want to use ubuntu customization kit to remaster a xubuntu12.04 .iso but i have the same error >>>>Failed to copy resolv.conf, error=1
[08:40] <xuserx> does anyone know how can i fix that error?
[08:40] <xuserx> please help me
[08:40] <xuserx> :-D
[08:41] <xuserx> any ideas?
[08:42] <xuserx> this is the build.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/966443/
[08:44] <xuserx> can you help me?
[08:54] <xuserx> can you help me?
[08:55] <mips1911> sorry, no idea
[08:56] <xuserx> i tried uck 2.4.6 but the same error
[08:57] <xuserx> 2.4.6 svn
[08:57] <xuserx> *
[10:43] <malv> does anyone know how to fix right click slowness issues?
[10:44] <malv> nm, figured it out
[10:45]  * taxman smashes malv's head with a super fast pendrive
[11:08] <scarecrow> hey guys, i have a trouble running compiz+emerald on xubuntu 12.04. Windows decoration doesn't work, can i fix that?
[11:10] <ochosi> scarecrow: i think emerald is quite a dead project
[11:11] <ochosi> scarecrow: apart from that, you can try to set /usr/bin/emerald (or whatever the command was) in compizconfig-settingsmanager (or whatever it's called) in the window-decoration setting
[11:11] <ochosi> scarecrow: or just try alt+f2 "emerald --replace"
[11:12] <scarecrow> i tried that, no success, i will try the first one, the interesting think is that working on 11.10
[11:12] <ochosi> as i said, it's a dead project, so there are a gazillion possible reasons for it to stop working
[11:12] <ochosi> compiz otoh is actively developed for ubuntu
[11:13] <ochosi> you can also try to use metacity instead
[11:13] <ochosi> (our default theme has both, emerald and metacity support)
[11:16] <aquix> so I can use metacity to get compiz working with xfce?
[11:16] <scarecrow> thanks ochosi, i will try now
[11:17] <ochosi> aquix: yes (or compiz-gnome, as the package is called, iirc)
[11:17] <ochosi> scarecrow: good luck
[11:19] <aquix> hmm. I'll look into it. Compiled emerald and it's running fine. Thanks for the tip
[11:23] <ochosi> aquix: in my experience metacity is more stable than emerald, that's why i wouldn't recommend emerald to anyone
[11:25] <aquix> I'm a newcommer to xfce from mint 11 and was confused by using metacity with compiz, but it's a better solution. I know emerald is unsupported.
[11:29] <aquix> xubuntu 12.04 is such a sweet release. I have run it since it came out and are very impressed..
[11:29] <aquix> and I can't stop saying so :)
[11:43] <Kingsy> guys, I am having a weird problem. A windows width is stuck at the width of the screen. I can resize the window vertically.. but horizontally it just wont move.. anyone had this before?
[12:03] <metals> hi
[12:03] <metals> I just downloaded Calibri font but it doesn't have any install button
[12:03] <metals> where can I add that?
[12:03] <Myrtti> copy it into your .fonts directory
[12:04] <metals> where is it?
[12:04] <metals> how can I reach such folders?
[12:05] <Myrtti> it's in your homedirectory, it's a hidden directory
[12:06] <drc> either in /usr/share/fonts or ~/.fonts...to see the hidden dirs in thunar, CTRL H
[12:06] <drc> and probably you'll have to make the ~/.fonts, I don't think its there by default
[12:07] <drc> HINT:  It's NOT ~/.fontconfig :)
[12:11] <Voverius> Hallo!
[12:11] <metals> drc: couldn't find it
[12:11] <drc> metals: couldn't find which one?
[12:11] <Voverius> It's possible to install XFCE 4.10 on Xubuntu 12.04?
[12:11] <metals> drc: the folder
 folder?  The one in /usr/fonts or the home directory?
[12:12] <metals> I found Home
[12:12] <mips1911> Voverius, soon the packages are still building, 9 left to go
[12:12] <metals> but not /usr and stuff
[12:13] <drc> mips1911: Still in the holding pattern on the install?  :)
[12:13] <mips1911> Voverius, https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit/+archive/ppa once all thepackages are finished building
[12:13] <mips1911> drc, yip and keeping an eye on those package builds
[12:13] <metals> drc: can't I just search that?
[12:13] <drc> metals: Read my earlier post...You'll have to make the .folder in the home directory
[12:14] <drc> opps .fonts folder
[12:17] <mips1911> ooh, 6 packages to go!
[12:17] <drc> so...tomorrow ? -)
[12:18] <aquix> metals, make a folder called    .fonts  in your home directory, if you don't have it alreaduy .. then run this command in the terminal          sudo fc-cache -fv
[12:18] <drc> metals: Have you made the new folder?
[12:19] <mips1911> noooo, xfwm failed to build
[12:19] <metals> drc: yeah, and I pasted the fonts there
[12:19] <metals> drc: I can see that in the word processor
[12:20] <drc> so...the font works for you?
[12:20] <aquix> metals, in terminal to refresh the fonts                 sudo fc-cache -fv
[12:20] <metals> drc: thanks, yeh
[12:20] <metals> aquix: thanks
[12:20] <metals> aquix: I did that in the Terminal
[12:21] <drc> The Mission Accomplished...it's Miller Time (tm)
[12:21] <aquix> then the font should show up.
[12:21] <drc> aquix: it did :)
[12:21] <aquix> thats a good thing :)
[12:21] <metals> :)
[12:21] <metals> one other thing
[12:21] <metals> I want Persian as well
[12:22] <metals> I mean Layout
[12:22] <aquix> a rug?
[12:22] <metals> no, cat :)
[12:22] <aquix> a rug?:)
[12:22] <metals> Keyboard layout
[12:22] <aquix> lol
[12:22] <metals> :D
[12:22] <drc> too much hair, gets in the keyboard
[12:22] <metals> :D
[12:22] <metals> cool people here
[12:22] <metals> :D
[12:23] <aquix> indeed
[12:23] <metals> I can't find it in the Control Panel
[12:23] <aquix> I know little about keyboard layouts, but it should be in settings
[12:24] <drc> I'm ignorant as well
[12:26] <aquix> yeah, it's in the settings under keyboard. I use english for the system but have a norwegian keyboard layout, but I set it during install and haven't really thought about it.
[12:26] <metals> found it
[12:26] <metals> thanks
[12:26] <metals> first Kubuntu
[12:26] <metals> then Ubuntu
[12:27] <metals> and today Xubuntu
[12:27] <metals> :D
[12:27] <metals> Xubuntu seems good
[12:27] <metals> better than Ubuntu
[12:27] <drc> Can't make up your mind?
[12:27] <drc> :)
[12:27] <aquix> it is. I came from mint 11
[12:27] <aquix> as long as it's a buntu :P
[12:27] <metals> Ubuntu wouldn't go on Stand By
[12:27] <metals> I was on Mint Lisa as well
[12:28] <metals> Lisa is classy but... weak
[12:28] <metals> I am very new to Linux
[12:28] <drc> metals: 12.04 'buntus all have hibernation disabled by default, if that's what you meant
[12:28] <metals> I was Microsoft's slave for a ong ime
[12:28] <aquix> yeah. xfce is my saviour as a gnome 2 refugee :)
[12:28] <metals> no
[12:28] <metals> Stand By
[12:28] <metals> Suspend?
[12:29] <drc> ah, that should work
[12:29] <metals> Suspend ya may say
[12:29] <metals> it would turn off for a second and would come back
[12:30] <aquix> 3 choises I think. suspend, hibernate and turning of the screen.
[12:32] <slim_> hello all, i have 2 language installed but i can' find how to enable language input switcher, ?
[12:32] <slim_> i'm using xubuntu 12.04
[12:34] <metals> slim_ have ya restarted your machine afterwards?
[12:36] <slim_> metals: not yet i try now
[12:36] <metals> OK
[12:36] <metals> Standing By
[12:38] <aquix> have I said I love xubuntu 12.04 lately?
[12:38] <aquix> awesome release
[12:39] <drc> it'll do....
[12:41] <metals_> shit
[12:41] <metals_> it doesn't suspend on Xubumtu as well
[12:41] <metals_> :(
[12:42] <drc> it's your machine/setup...works on mine
[12:42] <metals> I have a deasktop
[12:42] <metals> worked well on Kubuntu
[12:42] <metals> nor on Ubuntu nor this
[12:51] <Kingsy> guys, I am having a weird problem. A windows width is stuck at the width of the screen. I can resize the window vertically.. but horizontally it just wont move.. anyone had this before?
[12:55] <aquix> Kingsy, no idea. do you run compiz btw?
[12:56] <Kingsy> aquix: nope
[12:56] <aquix> it's weird alright. I have noe idea how to fix it.
[12:57] <aquix> Kingsy, ever watched the tv serie Kings?
[12:57] <Kingsy> nope
[12:58] <aquix> it's a good show. well worth a watch.
[13:27] <starn>  have they fixed gstreamer in 12.04 yet?
[13:56] <craigbass1976> I had a lucid to precise upgrade go terribly wrong yesterday.  After a reinstall, I'm almost back up.  How the blazes to I get a custom app launcher (it's going to point at a shell script) into a panel?
[14:02] <Wizard> Hi!
[14:02] <craigbass1976> Wizard, Hey!
[14:03] <Wizard> craigbass1976: Rigth click on a panel, select "Launcher"
[14:03] <craigbass1976> Are you saying that's how to add the launcher I'm after?
[14:03] <Wizard> Yes.
[14:04] <Wizard> It is possible to choose existing (system provided) one, or create your own.
[14:04] <Wizard> And thanks for warning, I was considering updating lucid → precise today.
[14:05] <craigbass1976> Wizard, it might go fine for you.  I find that over the course of an Ubuntu instance, I end up having to grab stuff from other repos and I imagine one of those is what blew me out of the water.  I do have this nice fresh feeling now, like from a fabric softener commercial, since the incident.  :)
[14:06] <Wizard> LOL
[14:06] <Wizard> craigbass1976: I have ubuntu/powerpc here, Xubuntu doesn't even provide images for ppc.
[14:06] <Wizard> So I'm a bit affraid.
[14:06] <craigbass1976> Ahh...
[14:07] <Wizard> OK, lunch, brb.
[14:12] <xubuntu735> hi how can i upgrade trough command line from 10.04 to 12.04? thx
[14:17] <drc> xubuntu735: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[14:19] <drc> actually https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PreciseUpgrades is more precise :)
[14:24] <drc> I can't find anything Xubuntu specific for LTS upgrading, but as the underlying system is Ubuntu, the general cavaets listed in the above link should help
[14:26] <drc> especially " It is generally recommended that users of Ubuntu 10.04 LTS wait until the first point release, due in July, before upgrading. ?
[14:28] <xubuntu735> i have great problem with visual upgrade (it chashes and does not start) so my solution is to use commmand line? which?
[14:38] <koegs> xubuntu735: do-release-upgrade
[14:38] <xubuntu735>  do-release-upgrade Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/bin/do-release-upgrade", line 10, in <module>     from UpdateManager.Core.DistUpgradeFetcherCore import DistUpgradeFetcherCore   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/UpdateManager/Core/DistUpgradeFetcherCore.py", line 27, in <module>     import tarfile ValueError: bad marshal data
[14:40] <xubuntu735> at line 27 import tarfile
[14:58] <xubuntu735> any solutions
[14:59] <xubuntu735> any other solutions?
[15:00] <holstein> xubuntu735: a fresh install is always a solution.. i would try from the command line
[15:10] <aquix> is there a ppa for xfce?
[15:31] <babble> aquix: there is - I'll find it for you, or I have built packages on Sourceforge
[15:33] <babble> here's Lionel Le Folgolc's PPA: https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit/+archive/ppa
[15:33] <babble> My builds are here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/babble777.u/files/xfce-4.10-daily/
[15:35] <aquix> brilliant.   thanks
[15:37] <babble> aquix: if you want, mine install everything in /usr/local so you can easily roll back to the official ubuntu packages by just uninstalling one package (mine)
[15:38] <aquix> how about https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xfce-4.10
[15:39] <babble> that will be official when the builds actually finish
[15:39] <babble> if you look, there aren't any published packages there yet
[15:40] <aquix> yeah, saw that. I'll try one of yours. thanks
[15:40] <babble> (It may be that Lionel's source packages are different from whatever the Xubuntu dev team is doing, so changes will need to get rolled in before the dev team ppa actually publishes anything)
[15:41] <babble> in my build series, the amd64/i386 packages marked FINAL are the release code.
[15:42] <babble> (I probably need to go in and clean up the daily builds at some point)
[15:55] <tehmole> hi, everyone
[15:58] <babble> hi tehmole
[16:33] <Marzata> how do you add ntp servers in xubuntu 12.04?
[16:42] <drc> I don't see a gui for it, but I expect you could just edit /etc/ntp.conf
[16:45] <drc> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/NTP.html  it's an oldie but a goodie
[16:46] <Marzata> there was a gui for that in 11.10
[16:47] <drc> dunno, I just did a quick check, couldn't find it, so....
[16:48] <Marzata> thanks.
[16:48] <drc> there is a gui to <use> ntp, but you can't set the servers there.
[16:48] <bzolt4n> Hi! I wold like to ask for help, my touchpad doesn't work in Xubuntu 12.04, but it works is Ubuntu 12.04. I looked for everywhere to solve the problem, but not found.
[16:49] <Sysi> bzolt4n: doesn't work at all or doesn't behave as it should?
[16:50] <bzolt4n> doesn't work
[16:50] <bzolt4n> i try to enable and disable in setting, not help
[16:50] <bzolt4n> i try to pull out my usb mouse, then restart, but not workin too
[16:50] <Sysi> try running "synclient TouchpadOff=0" in terminal
[16:52] <Sysi> does it work?
[16:52] <bzolt4n> no :(
[16:53] <bzolt4n> in the mouse settings, I see PS/2 Synaptics TouchPad, i don't know it is helpful
[16:54] <drc> bzolt4n: You didn't set anything in Removable Drivers and Media>Input Devices >Mice did you ?
[16:55] <drc> but if sysi's command didn't work, I'm stumped
[16:57] <bzolt4n> No i didn't set anyhing
[16:58] <drc> bzolt4n: that PS/2 Synaptics Touchpad is enabled/checked isn't it?
[16:58] <bzolt4n> yes, it is enabled
[16:59] <bzolt4n> i tried to disable/enable maybe it will work, but nothing happend
[16:59] <bzolt4n> i don't undestand why works in ubuntu, and not in xubuntu
[16:59] <drc> but if sysi's command didn't work, I'm stumped (redux :)
[17:01] <cowskull> Hello
[17:01] <bzolt4n> but i thank you try to help :)
[17:01] <Sysi> bzolt4n: does "lsmod | grep synaptics" give any output?
[17:01] <Sysi> hrm, actually evdev is used now
[17:02] <cowskull> Could anyone please help me, I just installed xubuntu and cannot detect one of my hard drives
[17:02] <bzolt4n> I inserted and nothing happend
[17:24] <draimus> I have a tech question.  Just insalled Xubuntu 12.04 on an office system (corporate lan w/ primarily windows domains).  I cannot get thunar or gigolo to connect to any windows shares.  I just get the user/domain/password dialog over and over.  Works fine from my Ubuntu 11.04 install.  Any suggestions?
[17:24] <draimus> for clarification I am switching from an old Ubuntu to the latest Xubuntu.
[17:27] <holstein> draimus: what are the errors in gigolo?
[17:27] <holstein> sounds like permissions to me
[17:27] <draimus> I don't get an error.  Just the dialog over and over until I cancel.
[17:28] <holstein> might need smbclient
[17:29] <holstein> i would refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaClientGuide ..see if you can get some error output
[17:29] <draimus> smbclient is installed (I'm guessing it was installed during OS install)
[17:31] <holstein> draimus: i would mount the share in the commandline and report errors
[17:32] <draimus> After installing cifs-utils I can do a mount -t cifs just fine.  GUI method still doesn't work (gvfs?)
[19:25] <arpad2> on my pc since 12.04 starting Playonlinux gives crash report
[19:58] <Restringere> Hello
[19:58] <Restringere> I have a technical question
[19:59] <Restringere> I have a Dell Vostro 1500, Dual Core Intel 2.0 ghz, 2 Gigs of DDR2 ram and plenty of hard drive and Geforce 8400M GS mobile chipset.
[19:59] <GridCube> good
[19:59] <Restringere> However Ubuntu 12.04 running Xubuntu is very slow, the graphics are jerky
[20:00] <Restringere> For example, when I highlight things in a web browser there is a lag and this lag and jerkiness happens everywhere
[20:01] <Restringere> my Memory usage never really exceeds 40-60% even running tons of Chromium windows and having LibreOffice and a movie playing etc...
[20:01] <Restringere> But the graphics are jerky and slow
[20:01] <Restringere> I have the Proprietary nVidia X-Server drivers, the latest version..
[20:01] <Restringere> What should I do to improve the responsiveness of the desktop?
[20:02] <Restringere> Can I scale back some XFCE graphics, how can I bring it to a bare minimum level and tweak things to get it just right?
[20:02] <Restringere> Would getting more Ram help?  Like to 4 Gigs?
[20:03] <Restringere> I dont have any of these problems using Windows XP...
[20:03] <Restringere> Any suggestions, help???
[20:03] <Restringere> Expert opinions?
[20:03] <GridCube> Restringere, sadly video drivers for linux aint that goo
[20:03] <GridCube> d
[20:03] <GridCube> :(
[20:04] <GridCube> you could, a) try other drivers
[20:04] <Restringere> Can I install the latest nVidia Linux drivers?
[20:04] <GridCube> Restringere, yes
[20:04] <Restringere> How?
[20:04] <GridCube> you could b) try disabling composing
[20:04] <GridCube> Restringere, go to the nvidia page and search for the latest linux drivers, they have a how to
[20:05] <Restringere> Ok
[20:05] <Restringere> Would increasing RAM help?
[20:05] <Sysi> no
[20:05] <Restringere> Moving to 64 Bit Linux?
[20:06] <Sysi> very probably not
[20:06] <Restringere> ok
[20:06] <Restringere> Thats why the new GIMP 2.8 is all funky on me?
[20:06] <Restringere> Like all the lags, its just the Drivers for Video?
[20:07] <GridCube> yes
[20:07] <GridCube> well
[20:07] <GridCube> maybe no, i dont know
[20:07] <GridCube> but very probably, yes
[20:08] <Restringere> Ok, how to I roll back if things get screwed up?
[20:08] <Restringere> Just run the basic Canonical drivers again?
[20:08] <Restringere> from the "Extra Drivers" dialog?
[20:09] <GridCube> yes, or you can delete xorg.conf form /etc/X11
[20:09] <GridCube> that would revert things to generic drivers
[20:09] <Restringere> ok
[20:10] <Restringere> Going to try then returning back to the room in 10 mins
[20:10] <Restringere> wish me luck
[20:18] <autif1> is there a transparent cursor theme for ubuntu (for touchscreens for example)
[20:18] <Restringere> Nothing happened
[20:18] <autif> once more with the right nick
[20:18] <autif> is there a transparent cursor theme for ubuntu (for touchscreens for example)
[20:19] <Restringere> ran the nvidia drivers with "sh ./ driverbinaryname"
[20:19] <Restringere> and nothing happened
[20:19] <Restringere> changed it to executable and everything
[20:19] <Restringere> ahhhhh
[20:20] <GridCube> Restringere, you need to run it from a tty with no X running
[20:23] <Restringere> rebooting
[20:23] <GridCube> autif, this should work http://gnome-look.org/?xcontentmode=36
[20:23] <GridCube> notice the should
[20:24] <nexinarus> So im doing a distribution upgrade to 12.04 and during the 'installing the upgrades' part it's stalled for about 2 hours on "ttf-mscorefonts-installer: downloading http://downloads.sourceforge.net/corefonts/trebuc32.exe" (300kb file), what should I do?
[20:25] <GridCube> hit the skip button
[20:25] <nexinarus> unfortunately theres no skip button
[20:25] <GridCube> o:
[20:27] <nexinarus> if I push ctrl+c on the console it says "this will abort the operation and may leave the system in a broken state. Are you sure?". bit of a gamble hah
[20:27] <GridCube> thats weird, it should just cancel the current process, thats why the skip button
[20:27] <GridCube> you could... unplug your internet and the download should fail
[20:28] <nexinarus> ooh good point!
[20:28] <GridCube> but then everything else should also fail
[20:28] <GridCube> if you are doing an upgrade from the internet
[20:28] <Phips-> hi
[20:28] <GridCube> !hi
[20:28] <autif> GridCube thanks!
[20:29] <nexinarus> hmm so ctrl+c or turn off net.. hmm
[20:29] <GridCube> :) found a nice one autif
[20:29] <Phips-> thx ^^
[20:29] <GridCube> nexinarus, dont know
[20:29] <nexinarus> ah ill try net option.. here goes nothing
[20:30] <autif> GridCube: I did not, but it is a good resource - I just need to figure out how to disable the icons at startup - completely - these themes make the icons looks like something or another
[20:30] <GridCube> autif, you mean desktop icons?
[20:31] <Phips-> I have a question: when I want to install xubuntu as second OS. Is that only able with booting a live CD or can I do tht like the normal ubuntu, like a programm?
[20:31] <GridCube> you can disable them from the desktop configuration, last tab is icons (first one is wallpapers), there you disable your icons, i like to keep the live media icons on, because if no live media in the computer they dont show, and if i plug a pendrive it shows an icon there :D
[20:32] <GridCube> Phips-, you can do wubi installs aswell
[20:32] <Phips-> and what is that o.O :d
[20:32] <GridCube> but keep in mind that NO ONE did wubi tests on xubuntu that we know off, it should work just like ubuntu does, but we don't know
[20:32] <GridCube> !wubi | Phips-
[20:33] <knome> GridCube, we did whole 4 wubi tests for 12.04 ;)
[20:33] <GridCube> 4! AMAZING!
[20:33] <GridCube> :D
[20:33] <knome> yeah...
[20:33] <Unit193> I'd not recommend that in general, ever. :P
[20:33] <knome> iirc 2 for alpha2 and 2 for final
[20:33] <Phips-> thx for links ^^
[20:33] <nexinarus1> ah crap disabling net & hitting ctrl+c failed lol, both did nothing dangit
[20:33] <GridCube> nexinarus1, :(
[20:34] <nexinarus1> i installed xubuntu with wubi, works sweet
[20:34] <GridCube> i don't know then, id recommend you to do a clean install
[20:35] <nexinarus1> cheers GridCube
[20:35] <GridCube> :) good luck nexinarus1
[20:41] <Phips-> ehy, the "wubi" works at Win-XP station?
[20:42] <Phips-> oh I have it ^^
[20:43] <martian> Hey folks, thinking of making the switch to xfce as it seems my old ubuntu 11.04 desktop isn't getting nice updates like gimp 1.8
[20:43] <martian> So how do you install a theme in this thing?
[20:43] <martian> Just copy to ~/.themes?
[20:43] <GridCube> yes
[20:43] <SpiKe_Spiegel> yes
[20:44] <martian> #whydidIevenask :)
[20:44] <SpiKe_Spiegel> and then you select the appropriate theme in the Xfce parameters
[20:45] <Phips-> when I install this: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer is that the 64-bit version?
[20:45] <SpiKe_Spiegel> However, I'm not sure that Gimp 2.8 will be in Ubunt 12.04 repos
[20:45]  * GridCube knows that unity themes need a special programs and tinkering with the system because "theming" is not supported
[20:45] <GridCube> !info gimp
[20:45] <GridCube> nope
[20:46] <Phips-> GridCube: @ me or @ martian? :)
[20:47] <martian> SpiKe_Spiegel: well, it's in the unofficial (webupd8) repos but only for 12.x... it's more of a matter that the times are changing and it's a sign that I should look in to my next UI
[20:47] <martian> I can't handle unity :-P
[20:47] <SpiKe_Spiegel> martian, so Xfce is a good choice ^^
[20:47] <GridCube> Phips-, I have literally no idea of how wubi works
[20:48] <martian> SpiKe_Spiegel: I've always liked it; just never had a reason to bother switching
[20:48] <Phips-> GridCube: ok ^^
[20:48] <GridCube> but if i have to guess, ill say that you cant run linux amd64 if you are not running windows amd64
[20:49] <GridCube> but really don't know
[20:49] <Phips-> mh ^^
[20:49] <GridCube> ill recommend you to do a clean install
[20:49] <Phips-> with the CD?
[20:49] <GridCube> it can install alongside windows fairly easy
[20:49] <GridCube> yes Phips-
[20:49] <GridCube> or a pendrive
[20:50] <GridCube> i havent burn cds in a long time :P
[20:50] <EvilResistance> what's the default mail application in xubuntu?
[20:50] <SpiKe_Spiegel> Thunderbird
[20:50] <Phips-> GridCube: ok thx for help ^^
[20:51] <Phips-> Thunderbird, and is that right that you use conqueror as brwoser?
[20:51] <EvilResistance> thanks
[20:51] <Phips-> *browser
[20:51] <autif> GridCube: yes, I meant desktop icons. It seems like I need to run xsetroot -cursor someting something from somewhere in the X startup - I just can;t get where - if I sleep 30 seconds and then start - everything is just fine
[20:52] <GridCube> O_O
[20:52] <GridCube> what?
[20:52] <GridCube> are you not using xfce?
[20:52] <autif> I am
[20:52] <autif> but I think this is at a lower level - at X's level
[20:52] <autif> so, I do not need themese
[20:53] <autif> or I need transparent theme - which does not seem to exist
[20:53] <autif> for a touchscreen
[20:53] <autif> this is the next best thing
[20:53] <autif> ls
[20:53] <autif> sorry
[20:55] <Phips-> wish you good day, see you soon bye
[21:09] <starn> why are my youtube videos blue tinted? like people are blue?
[21:11] <GridCube> starn, because of hardware acceletarion
[21:11] <Sysi> right click -> settings -> uncheck hardware acceleration
[21:11] <GridCube> disable it
[21:11] <Sysi> because flash sucks
[21:12] <GridCube> because video drivers for linux sucks too
[21:12] <starn> sure it's not ffmepg stuff? and Sysi flash does suck haha
[21:12] <GridCube> starn, no, its just flash
[21:12] <GridCube> and video drivers
[21:12] <starn> i remember having this issue april 1 and fixed it.. not fully sure how.. i think i had to do something with gstreamer or ffmepg
[21:13]  * GridCube shrugs
[21:13] <starn> be right back switching OS's..
[21:15] <t0rx__> Anyone know the PPA for the mainline kernel on 12.04 to update to 3.3.4 via apt-get?
[21:16] <GridCube> !kernel | t0rx__
[21:16] <drc>  This Smurfiness is funny...on the same hardware with the same nvidia driver, I get it with slackware/salix and fedora but not with X/Ubuntu, debian or Linux Mint.
[21:17] <GridCube> ja, i got it in this machine
[21:18] <t0rx__> ubottu: my video card has drivers that are in the 3.3.4 kernel but not enabled by default.  Thus I need to recompile with them enabled.  So I'm guessing I need to get the ubuntu 3.3.4 NOT the kernel.org version?
[21:56] <starn> hmm.. can't remember what i did to fix blue youtube videos.. i use chrome.. and i am pretty sure it had to do with unofficial flash stuff... for my computer will not let me select or deselect hardware acc.
[21:57] <starn> like under settings for flash the menu buttons don't work i can't click them i can tab through them but it wont let me use space or enter to select them it lets me use enter to close though.
[22:02] <starn> fixed it!! it was mplayer / libvdpau1
[22:03] <Sysi> vdpau is the thingy doing hw-acceleration
[22:03] <starn> so to fix blue smurf people on youtube just remove mplayer and libvdpau1
[22:04] <knome> or use the html5 version?
[22:04] <starn> it was acting up in html5 even.
[22:05] <Sysi> really funky drivers
[22:05] <starn> indeed. i have nvidia..  i've been in html5 trail for awhile..
[22:06] <starn> i've noticed some videos force me to use flash though. what up with that
[22:07] <Sysi> some videos are just not available in html5(webm/h264/something)
[22:07] <starn> ah well i fixed my issue. i don't see why mplayer would effect chrome and flash videos.
[22:08] <starn> holy crap.. i even fixed my musictube problem.. o.O huh welp i'm done for the day.
[22:11] <Restringel> This is the guy with the Vostro 1500 trouble
[22:11] <Restringel> I found an interesting solution
[22:11] <starn> now than i tried to use compiz w/e for 3d desktop.. and now i'm unable to log into my normal desktop. any suggestions?
[22:12] <Restringel> To speed things up - as a result of very buggy Nvidia drivers - I dropped the color bit depth to 56K, turned off advanced GPU features and
[22:12] <Restringel> Wow, it works better, less jittery
[22:12] <Restringel> I'll probably have to wait until 12.10 to see massive improvements
[22:14] <Restringel> Anyone have anymore Nvidia related performance tweaks?
[22:36] <xubuntu433> hi, is there a way to change/switch my keyboard layout in us,greek and vise versa?
[22:39] <GridCube> yes
[22:40] <GridCube> xubuntu433, theres a keyboard switch button for the panel, if its not there already you might have to install xfce goodies
[22:41] <LiquidBlues> I'm having a problem getting Xubuntu 12.04 to boot from CD or USB.  Is there a way to start the install from the OS already on it?
[22:41] <GridCube> i dont understand
[22:42] <LiquidBlues> I've made a CD-ROM and it won't boot into the install.  Same for USB.
[22:42] <LiquidBlues> So, just trying to find a way around it.
[22:42] <xubuntu433> found it, thank you very much!
[22:42] <knome> LiquidBlues, it's possible, but you can't install to the same partition you are running from
[22:42] <LiquidBlues> Yeah, that makes sense.
[22:42] <GridCube> LiquidBlues, you can try the alternate cd
[22:42] <LiquidBlues> GridCube: What does that do for me?
[22:43] <GridCube> it doesnt load a graphical interface and its faster
[22:43] <LiquidBlues> Oh.
[22:43] <LiquidBlues> Sounds promising.
[22:43] <LiquidBlues> So, how do I select the options that come with the GUI install?
[22:44] <GridCube> no, you need the alternate ISO
[22:45] <LiquidBlues> Right.  So, I download and burn that.
[22:45] <LiquidBlues> But the regular iso gives me install options on the gui.
[22:45] <LiquidBlues> And you're saying I don't have those on the alternate.
[22:46] <GridCube> LiquidBlues, you have all the same options, just not graphically, textually
[22:46] <LiquidBlues> Ah, okay.  Grand idea.
[22:46] <LiquidBlues> I'll give it a whirl.
[22:46]  * GridCube thinks he really has to make his alternate tutorial
[22:47] <LiquidBlues> Yeah!  What the hell?
[22:47] <LiquidBlues> Slacker.
[22:47] <LiquidBlues> ;)
[22:47] <GridCube> :P
[22:59] <Viva_Caligula> I jus installed the latest xubuntu and I can't login normally
[23:00] <Viva_Caligula> the splash displays, but there's a gray square where the login prompt should be
[23:01] <Viva_Caligula> I'm connected with irssi running in a root shell right now
[23:01] <Viva_Caligula> annybody know how to fix the login manager?
[23:02] <pleia2> Viva_Caligula: fresh install, or an upgrade?
[23:02] <Viva_Caligula> fresh install
[23:02] <pleia2> hmm, haven't seen that one before
[23:03] <Viva_Caligula> I tried versions before the current one, but after karmic, and the supported ones refuse to install
[23:03] <Viva_Caligula> I have a dual boot with karmic atm (old install), bu they don't share a /home
[23:05] <Viva_Caligula> running dpkg didn't help
[23:05] <pleia2> I'm not finding much, but as a datapoint it's using lightdm as the login manager, so that may help find some clues
[23:05] <pleia2> Viva_Caligula: maybe take a look at /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log
[23:06] <Viva_Caligula> the system is borderline unresponsive when started normally
[23:06] <Viva_Caligula> it responds to the mouse jerkily with up to 5 seconds of delay, and won't shut down, or bring a terminal up
[23:07] <Viva_Caligula> pleia2: is nano installed by default?
[23:07] <pleia2> Viva_Caligula: yep, or vi
[23:07] <pleia2> (er, I think vi..)
[23:07] <knome> i think nano is ;)
[23:07] <knome> at least..
[23:07] <knome> and it gives me less shivers
[23:08] <Viva_Caligula> hmm, since I'm in a root shell, I don't think I can switch terminal windows
[23:08] <Viva_Caligula> alt + f<number> just gives a black screen
[23:08]  * nanotube >_>
[23:09] <Viva_Caligula> I have to dc to look at the file, anything in particular I should look for?
[23:11] <pleia2> warnings, errors
[23:11] <pleia2> start at the bottom
[23:11] <Viva_Caligula> okay, brb
[23:18] <Viva_Nero> I see some stuff about shutting down and sigterm, after a gap in the timestamps, but I think that's from me having to force a hrad shutdown
[23:19] <Viva_Nero> *hard
[23:19] <Viva_Nero> other than that, nothing seems out of place
[23:23] <Marzata> any plans for xfce 4.10 ppa?
[23:23] <Marzata> or an update?
[23:24] <muzzol> hi
[23:24] <xubuntu708> hi
[23:24] <muzzol> which notify system is used by xubuntu?
[23:24] <muzzol> is compatible with 'notify-send' command?
[23:24] <xubuntu708> I need some help with my xubuntu 12.04
[23:25] <Unit193> muzzol: xcfe4-notifyd
[23:25] <xubuntu708> what do u mean
[23:26] <muzzol> i user notify-send to show some messages
[23:26] <xubuntu708> were do i have to ask some help regarding my update of 12.0
[23:26] <muzzol> and i would like to know if xubuntu system is compatible with that command
[23:26] <knome> xubuntu708, here.
[23:26] <Unit193> Yep.
[23:27] <Unit193> muzzol: I use it with irssi.
[23:27] <muzzol> ok, thanks Unit193
[23:27] <LiquidBlues> I have an exciting new problem!
[23:28] <LiquidBlues> I'm using the alternate cd
[23:29] <LiquidBlues> It gets me to the "Install Xubuntu" prompt.
[23:30] <LiquidBlues> I select it and then the screen goes black and, after a bit, the CD stops spinning.
[23:37] <Punk_Unity> im having trouble installing themes from xfce-look.org
[23:41] <Unit193> What are you doing with them?
[23:42] <Punk_Unity> tryign to download them and install them
[23:43] <Punk_Unity> im running precise
[23:43] <Viva_Nero> Okay, running the irc client on a different computer now, so I'm free to mess with the broken install
[23:43] <Punk_Unity> xubuntu
[23:43] <Unit193> Punk_Unity: So you just don't know how? Alright, make a dir in your home folder named .themes
[23:43] <Punk_Unity> ok
[23:43] <Unit193> !themes
[23:45] <Punk_Unity> i did that
[23:45] <Punk_Unity> but there arent any i really like in stock format
[23:45] <Punk_Unity> i go to that site and download them, extract them... and i dotn see the new ones in settings
[23:45] <Punk_Unity> im also running compiz
[23:46] <Punk_Unity> i added the folder .themes to my home folder
[23:46] <Punk_Unity> but i dont see it
[23:47] <Viva_Nero> I've not figured out my login troubles yet
[23:47] <Unit193> It's hidden, did you open Appearance in the settings manager? I don't know where themes would mesh with compiz.
[23:47] <Viva_Nero> it'll boot to a splash, but where the login prompt should be is a gray square, and the system goes near-unresponsive
[23:48] <Punk_Unity> just wanted to let you know what i had going on, thanks... let me get into settigns manager, 1 sec
[23:48] <Viva_Nero> lightdm's log file didn't have anything that stood out
[23:48] <Punk_Unity> ok, im in Appearance
[23:49] <Punk_Unity> i dont see any of the themes that i downloaded
[23:49] <Punk_Unity> like orta, and so on
[23:51] <Punk_Unity> ok, i see the .Themes folder now
[23:51] <Punk_Unity> should i extract the tar.gz files into that folder?
[23:51] <TheMaster> Has to be '.themes'
[23:52] <Viva_Nero> is there a different login manager I can install/set as the default?
[23:52] <Punk_Unity> actually its a zip file
[23:52] <Punk_Unity> its .themes sorry
[23:52] <TheMaster> Viva_Nero: Yep, you can use whatever you want, GDM, slim, lightdm, LXDM, etc.
[23:52] <Viva_Nero> what did jaunty use?
[23:52] <Viva_Nero> I prefer having to type out the username as well as the pass
[23:53] <TheMaster> Slim and LXDM need that, and I *think* you can get that in LightDM.
[23:55] <Viva_Nero> wikipedia says lightdm is used for 11.10 onward, not for sure what was used before
[23:55] <TheMaster> GDM was.
[23:56] <Punk_Unity> ok, so if i download the orta zip file... what should i do next?
[23:56] <Punk_Unity> from xfce-look.org
[23:57] <Viva_Nero> if I just do apt-get install GDM from a root shell, will it install and load instead of lightdm?
[23:57] <TheMaster> For me it works to extract it to .themes.
[23:57] <TheMaster> Viva_Nero: It'll ask what you want to use as default.
[23:59] <Viva_Nero> rebooting it, one sec


[12:40] <nakul> Hi all
[12:40] <nakul> does cloud-init supports Debian 7 (wheezy) ?
[12:41] <nakul> specially 32 bit arch
[12:45] <nakul> i have created an deb 7 (32bit) kvm based image and installed cloud-init cloud-utils and cloud-initramfs-growroot packages from "http://ftp.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main" repo
[12:45] <nakul> and uploaded in glance to work with userdata and config drive but its not accepting any credentials either
[12:47] <nakul> but i can curl to metadata url http://<IP_ADDRESS> and can see the config drive as well
[12:49] <nakul> i am not sure whats wrong here and i dont have such issues with debian 8 and debian 9 release
[13:11] <powersj> nakul: and you please share the logs in /var/log/cloud-init*?
[13:19] <nakul> [....] Starting Cloud service: cloud-init[....] Starting NFS common utilities: statd idmapd[?25l[?1c7[1G[[32m ok [39;49m8[?25h[?0c. [....] Starting rpcbind daemon...[....] Already running.[?25l[?1c7[1G[[32m ok [39;49m8[?25h[?0c. [....] Starting enhanced syslogd: rsyslogd[?25l[?1c7[1G[[32m ok [39;49m8[?25h[?0c. [....] Starting ACPI services...[?25l[?1c7[1G[[32m ok [39;49m8[?25h[?0c. [....] Starting deferred execution scheduler: atd
[13:19] <nakul> hi powersj
[13:20] <nakul> i am able to share the full logs here
[13:20] <nakul> not*
[13:21] <nakul> Traceback (most recent call last):   File "/usr/bin/cloud-init", line 509, in <module>     sys.exit(main())   File "/usr/bin/cloud-init", line 505, in main     return functor(name, args)   File "/usr/bin/cloud-init", line 256, in main_init     iid = init.instancify()   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/cloudinit/stages.py", line 311, in instancify     return self._reflect_cur_instance()   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-package
[13:22] <nakul> @powerj : do you have any mail id to share the logs ?
[13:23] <nakul> i followed this url for image creation : https://thornelabs.net/2014/04/07/create-a-kvm-based-debian-7-openstack-cloud-image.html
[13:25] <blackboxsw> nakul: if possible to redact the /var/log/cloud-init.log  to something that could be shared it would be helpful to file a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+filebug with any information you can provide
[13:26] <blackboxsw> so others could benefit from the fix too. we can contact you with more requests if the bug filed doesn't have enough information to understand the problem
[13:32] <nakul> blackboxsw: ok but i am not sure weather its a bug or some misconfiguration  or something else
[13:39] <blackboxsw> nakul: that howto is really dated (2014)... maybe this would help https://asciinema.org/a/132009
[13:40] <blackboxsw> rewriting that cloud.cfg file is potentially dated/broken in that howto you referenced
[13:44] <nakul> dont think so..still let me try once more else i'll post the issue in +filebug site
[13:44] <nakul> thanks blackboxsw
[13:44] <nakul> ohh..thanks Chad Smith
[13:52] <blackboxsw> no problemo nakul  that'd be smoser to thank
[13:53] <blackboxsw> :0
[13:53] <blackboxsw> :)
[15:38] <utlemming> smoser: around?
[15:38] <utlemming> https://gist.github.com/utlemming/288607e974f597d89d940474874551df
[15:39] <utlemming> smoser: looks like SysConfig rendering for network configuration is broken for IPv6 default routs
[15:39] <utlemming> I can't tell whether its Fedora/RH or Debian/Ubuntu that is not following the spec
[15:39] <utlemming> since network_data.json is not well documented
[15:59] <robjo> smoser: Could you please give https://code.launchpad.net/~rjschwei/cloud-init/+git/cloud-init/+merge/331149 another look? Would like to get this finished so I can put the patch into the 17.1 SUSE package.
[16:00] <blackboxsw> will give it a pass robjo
[16:01] <robjo> blackboxsw: thanks, I just fixed the alpha order issue I hope, as I couldn't reproduce that locally, so the bot will need to do another run
[18:07] <benray> Hope it's OK to ask a general question here. How to populate ifcfg file with 'DHCP_HOSTNAME=<hostname>' prior to network start? If I use bootcmd it gets overwritten
[18:15] <rharper> benray: we don't currently have a way to do that;  ifupdown doesn't support DHCP_HOSTNAME, but it doe support hostname <hostname value> which should get passed to the client
[18:15] <benray> Thanks! I might be able to live with rc.local
[18:15] <rharper> *ifupdown in ubuntu at least
[18:16] <benray> RHEL in this case
[18:16] <benray> I believe ubuntu is a little more elegant in this regard
[18:16] <rharper> ok; so for the sysconfig backend
[18:17] <rharper> but generally, it appears there are some client dhcp options we should support (hostname, lease, client, vendor) strings that dhcp clients would submit in their request IIUC
[18:17] <benray> That would be cool. Thought I would ask in case it was just hiding somewhere
[18:18] <benray> :)
[18:21] <rharper> benray: ok, I filed a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/cloud-init/+bug/1720426
[18:21] <benray> Nice! Thanks for looking into it
[18:22] <rharper> benray: sure, thanks for pointing it out
[18:22] <benray> Keep up the great work
[19:24] <rispa> hello. I'm trying to figure out how to disable different cloud-init datasources. Not sure why, but I can't seem to figure out from the docs.
[19:25] <rispa> Basically, we're using cloud-init on internal vms with a cloud-config drive. When the cloud-config drive isn't there or is misconfigured, cloud-config tries to hit a bunch of metadata urls and eventually times out
[19:25] <rispa> this really slows down boot time -- takes around 10 minutes
[20:53] <blackboxsw> rispa:  on your vms you can either dpkg-reconfigure cloud-init  to enable/disable
[20:54] <blackboxsw> rispa:  on your vms you can either dpkg-reconfigure cloud-init  to enable/disable datasources....
[20:54] <blackboxsw> or you can edit your /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/90_dpkg.cfg datasource_list
[20:54] <blackboxsw> and remove any datasources in your images you don't want to try
[20:55] <blackboxsw> rispa: I'll add a work item for additional docs on this as I can't find them either
[21:02] <rispa> blackboxsw: datasource_list is working great -- thanks very much!
[21:02] <smoser> rispa, just fwi, there really should not be a reason to do that.
[21:02] <smoser> if it is timing out, its due to the ec2 datasource, which should be done last.
[21:02] <smoser> wonder if you could post a cloud-init.log
[21:04] <smoser> rispa, oh. yes. if you remove the disk it will do that.
[21:05] <smoser> you can set in the image "manual_cache_clean: true"
[21:05] <smoser> and that means that if there is a cached datasource cloud-init will not go looking again
[21:05] <smoser> so you can boot once with the disk, and then take it away
[21:05] <smoser> but if you do that then you have to clean yourself, or cloud-init will never go looking again.
[21:08] <rispa> smoser: thanks! it's definitely only a problem when the cloud config drive is missing or broken. more of annoyance than anything else


[00:12] <leontopod> ok, installed kubuntu on my acer aspire one
[00:12] <leontopod> wireless doesn't seem to be working
[00:12] <leontopod> it's a netbook
[00:13] <Darkwing> leontopod: I have the same netbook. What is is doing/not doing?
[00:14] <leontopod> well, it finds my wireless access point (mustelafuro)
[00:14] <leontopod> and I set it up
[00:14] <leontopod> with my password
[00:14] <leontopod> and click ok
[00:14] <leontopod> and then nothing happens
[00:14] <leontopod> no connectivity
[00:15] <Darkwing> Yeah, I've had that issue... do you save the password/have it auto connect?
[00:15] <leontopod> I was able to connect it with an ethernet cable
[00:15] <leontopod> using a static ip address
[00:15] <leontopod> so I do have internet connectivity right now
[00:15] <leontopod> it's just I want it to be wireless
[00:15] <leontopod> hmmm
[00:15] <leontopod> auto connect?
[00:15] <Darkwing> disable wireless and reenable it happens again.
[00:15] <leontopod> how?
[00:17] <Darkwing> gimme a sec
[00:17] <leontopod> ok
[00:17] <leontopod> it's working now
[00:17] <leontopod> I had to click on "Autoconnect"
[00:18] <Darkwing> Manage Connections > Connection name > Edit -- At the top
[00:19] <leontopod> ok wait
[00:19] <leontopod> where is "Manage Connections"?
[00:20] <leontopod> Darkwing, under System settings I see "Network Settings"
[00:20] <Darkwing> Sorry... the Network Management plasmoid
[00:20] <leontopod> but where is Network Management Plasmoid?
[00:20] <Darkwing> Bottom right.
[00:21] <leontopod> nothing in bottom right
[00:21] <leontopod> this is kubuntu, right?
[00:21] <leontopod> latest version
[00:22] <leontopod> Darkwing, bottom left has a "cashew"
[00:22] <leontopod> but bottom right there is nothing at all
[00:23] <leontopod> also, and more importantly, it's not letting me install Firefox
[00:24] <leontopod> "The package "firefox-kde-support" has not been found among your software...
[00:24] <leontopod> I don't understand, I have internet connectivity now
[00:24] <leontopod> shouldn't it be doing an apt-get under the covers?
[00:29] <ronnoc> leontopod: thepackahge you want is simply called kubuntu-firefox-installer
[00:29] <ronnoc> it willpull in all the additional integration packages needed
[00:30] <leontopod> ronnoc, how, though?
[00:30] <leontopod> I am clicking on the firefox icon and it is asking me if I want to install
[00:30] <leontopod> I click OK then I get that message
[00:30] <ronnoc> what version of kubuntu are you on?
[00:30] <leontopod> the very very latest
[00:31] <leontopod> do I have to open up a terminal and do an apt-get update?
[00:32] <ronnoc> the easiest way to install it would be to open Muon Package Manager and search for kubuntu-firefox-installer and install it
[00:32] <ronnoc> no reason to use command line unless you wanted to
[00:32] <leontopod> Kubuntu 11.10_Live
[00:32] <leontopod> installed from usb flash drive
[00:32] <leontopod> on my netbook
[00:32] <ronnoc> yea open muon
[00:32] <leontopod> how?
[00:32] <leontopod> I thought I was familiar with KDE, using KDE 4 on Slackware
[00:33] <leontopod> but this is totally different
[00:33] <ronnoc> it's ok - click on the KDE icon on the lower left and in the search box type "muon" with no quotes
[00:34] <ronnoc> or you can press <alt> + <F2> and in the drop down box at the top of the screen (KRunner) just type muon - either way is OK
[00:35] <Darkwing> actually, krunner is disabled on netbook. The search bar in the middle of the screen is what shoudl be used.
[00:35] <trans-stilbene> wow.  that's kind of a dud.
[00:35] <ronnoc> Darkwing: Ahhh Plasma Netbook - ok my bad
[00:35] <trans-stilbene> I liked krunner.
[00:35] <trans-stilbene> but what is the search in the middle of the screen? is it always there?
[00:36] <Darkwing> It's there (Installed) just disabled by default for freeing up hdw for netbooks.
[00:37] <trans-stilbene> which one is disabled by default?  krunner?
[00:37] <Darkwing> Aye.
[00:37] <Darkwing> At least for the Kubuntu Netbook install
[00:38] <trans-stilbene> that might be good.
[00:38] <trans-stilbene> I have had quite a lot of problems with krunner crashing.
[00:38] <trans-stilbene> do you know if that is fixed yet?
[00:38] <Darkwing> Was there a bug filed?
[00:39] <Darkwing> Also, was it krunner or, akanodi with krunner?
[00:39] <trans-stilbene> I think the bug was filed.  what is akanodi?
[00:39] <Darkwing> Or, nepomuk
[00:40] <trans-stilbene> oh
[00:40] <trans-stilbene> yeah, it could be nepomuk running amok, npi
[00:40] <Darkwing> :)
[00:41] <leontopod> lower left I see a cashew
[00:42] <trans-stilbene> I beg your pardon?
[00:42] <Darkwing> It would be at the top. It's the widget that shows your network connection. Right click then manage connections
[00:46] <leontopod> ok got muon up
[00:46] <leontopod> what now?
[00:46] <leontopod> I used the search bar to find it
[00:47] <ronnoc> search for kubuntu-firefox-installer
[00:48] <ronnoc> when oyu find it, right click and select "mark for installation"
[00:48] <leontopod> ronnoc it says it is installed
[00:48] <leontopod> do I click on it?
[00:49] <ronnoc> nah
[00:49] <ronnoc> what if you search for just firefox in muon?
[00:50] <leontopod> nope
[00:50] <ronnoc> ok then install it from tehre
[00:50] <ronnoc> *there
[00:50] <leontopod> install what?
[00:50] <ronnoc> firefox
[00:50] <leontopod> not found in muon
[00:51] <leontopod> there is firefox-local-en but that is installed
[00:51] <trans-stilbene> leontopod, you need to just wget the firefox binaries.  what you have installed is most likely a non-working firefox INSTALLER.
[00:51] <trans-stilbene> I had that problem once.
[00:52] <leontopod> I think I will try a regular ubuntu install
[00:52] <leontopod> this kubuntu is fucking with my brain
[00:52] <trans-stilbene> up to you, but I think kubuntu is better.
[00:52] <ronnoc> but still in muon the base firefox package should show up
[00:53] <ronnoc> leontopod: I've installed Firefox from the live CD many times. It shouldn't be an issue.
[00:56] <leontopod> ronnoc yeah it's weird
[00:57] <leontopod> let me try installing regular ubuntu and see if I get farther
[00:57] <ronnoc> leontopod: one last easy thing you could try 1st:
[00:57] <ronnoc> open the program "konsole" (KDE's terminal)
[00:57] <ronnoc> apt-get update
[00:58] <ronnoc> apt-get install firefox
[00:58] <ronnoc> should get it done
[00:58] <ronnoc> if not, something's hosed somewhere
[00:58] <leontopod> I miss the task bar a lot
[00:58] <leontopod> that's the real reason I wanted to try kubuntu
[00:58] <leontopod> but apparently it is turned off on netbooks =(
[01:03] <ronnoc> leontopod: you can turn it back to the desktop look I think
[01:03] <Darkwing> Yes, you can.
[01:04] <ronnoc> leontopod:  You would select System Settings > Workspace Behavior > Workspace and where it says 'Netbook' you can change it to 'Desktop'
[01:06] <leontopod> cool thanks ronnoc
[01:06] <ronnoc> leontopod: :)
[01:10] <leontopod> ok now firefox is installing
[01:10] <leontopod> interesting
[01:10] <leontopod> thanks for that tip
[01:10] <leontopod> this is much more like the kde I am used to
[01:10] <leontopod> Darkwing, I never found that plasmoid
[01:10] <leontopod> how do I install it?
[01:10] <leontopod> I guess I have to install it?
[01:17] <ronnoc> he meant your Network Manager icon in the lower right of the tray (now that you're in Desktop mode). it's just KDE's network icon.
[01:24] <leontopod> oh
[01:24] <leontopod> ronnoc, ok
[01:24] <leontopod> what does the network manager icon look like?
[01:24] <leontopod> I am in desktop mode now
[01:25] <leontopod> I see a battery icon
[01:26] <leontopod> oh, found it
[01:26] <leontopod> thanks
[01:26] <leontopod> wow, this is nice
[01:26] <leontopod> I am doing all the updates
[01:26] <leontopod> there are hundreds of updates!
[01:26] <leontopod> what the!
[01:26] <FloodBotK2> leontopod: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:27] <leontopod> !!!!
[01:27] <leontopod> =)
[01:27] <ronnoc> lol
[01:27] <ronnoc> there's no reason to update a live cd
[01:29] <leontopod> well I got a warning icon saying updates were available, ronnoc
[01:30] <ronnoc> leontopod: is your thumb drive install persistent?
[01:31] <leontopod> uhm, I installed from the thumb drive
[01:32] <leontopod> then it told me to remove the thumb drive and press enter
[01:32] <leontopod> so that's what I did
[01:32] <leontopod> so the thumb drive is currently not plugged into the netbook
[01:32] <leontopod> is that what you mean?
[01:34] <ronnoc> yepp. you're all good.
[01:36] <leontopod> ok =)
[01:36] <westmi> I need a partition editor
[01:36] <leontopod> I also need to find a printer driver for a Dell Color Printer 725
[01:36] <leontopod> how would I search apt for something like that?
[01:41] <ronnoc> leontopod: plug your printer in and go to system settings again. Then go to Printer Configuration and add new printer. Most printers will install OK that way. If not, come back and we'll see.
[01:41] <leontopod> gah, this is on an ubuntu install
[01:41] <leontopod> and the woman I installed it for on her notebook has the notebook over at her house
[01:42] <ronnoc> westmi: in Kubuntu it's either called Partition Manager or KDE Partition Manager
[01:42] <leontopod> it's one of those deals "gee, Windows Vista just doesn't work any more, we just use this computer to screw around, what can you do?"  "Oh, I'll install ubuntu!"  A few days later she says OH BY THE WAY WE NEED TO PRINT
[01:42] <leontopod> *sigh*
[01:42] <leontopod> why are people so stupid?
[01:43] <ronnoc> leontopod: it's actually a lot easier since you're usually not chasing down drivers all over the Net
[01:43] <leontopod> ok
[01:43] <ronnoc> most are built into the Linux Kernel already
[01:43] <leontopod> but how can I tell if a Dell Color Printer 725 is built int, ronnoc?
[01:43] <leontopod> is there any list anywhere?
[01:44] <leontopod> s/int/in/
[01:44] <ronnoc> www.openprinting.org is a good resource if you just wanted general linux printing help
[01:44] <leontopod> ok thanks
[02:04] <westmi> unresolved dependencies
[02:05] <westmi> libparted0
[02:06] <westmi> for some reason, I can't install partition manager or gparted
[02:15] <westmi> I am sooo f23483ng frustrated.
[02:16] <almoxarife> i am new to kde, i figured pretty much everything out on my own except one thing, 'event sounds', the level is 'stuck' at 50% and there it stays, i cant find a way to raise it or lower it, no other audio level is effected btw, i dont have any other issue with audio
[02:16] <westmi> cannot install due to unresolved dependencies
[02:17] <almoxarife> westmi: i bet you got a ppa causing the issue
[02:17] <westmi> something about having thr right repo added or enabled
[02:18] <almoxarife> westmi: do you have all the repos enabled?
[02:18] <westmi> but I have no way of knowing what repository has the dependencies I need libparted0
[02:19] <westmi> don't know...
[02:19] <almoxarife> westmi: what version?
[02:19] <westmi> kubuntu 10.04
[02:19] <almoxarife> westmi: natty?
[02:20] <westmi> I'm just trying to format my usb thumbdrive
[02:21] <almoxarife> westmi: does you version include 'start-disk-creator'? or allow you to install it??
[02:21] <westmi> and , for some reason cannot install gparted or partition manager due to unresolved dependencies
[02:21] <almoxarife> westmi: you can stop repeating yourself
[02:21] <westmi> k sorry
[02:22] <almoxarife> westmi: does you version include 'start-disk-creator'? or allow you to install it??
[02:22] <westmi> yes, it does have start up disk creator
[02:22] <almoxarife> westmi: and does 'it' not allow you to format a usb?
[02:23] <westmi> idk...let me see...brb
[02:24] <westmi> "event sounds" is the beeps, or sounds that are associated with ...?
[02:24] <almoxarife> westmi: 'events'
[02:25] <westmi> like, notifications?
[02:26] <almoxarife> westmi:  may i suggest you include the nick of the person you are talking to
[02:26] <almoxarife> westmi: thnks
[02:28] <almoxarife> westmi: yes, an event is for example my nick shows up in a line of txt, i get 'beeped'
[02:30] <westmi> almoxarife, or if you have updates available,
[02:30] <westmi> yeah, idk , sorry- mine doesnt even work
[02:31] <almoxarife> westmi: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+package/libparted0
[02:37] <AndroidLoverInSF> how can i enable the proprietary graphics drivers in kde?
[02:39] <westmi> AndroidLoverInSF, hardware drivers
[02:41] <westmi> klaunch>applications>system>hardware drivers
[02:41] <AndroidLoverInSF> under system-settings, hardware, i just see 'device actions', 'display and monitor', 'information sources', input devices', 'power management', 'removeable devices', 'multimedia'.  i'm on ubuntu 11.04 kde
[02:42] <westmi> AndroidLoverInSF, you can pick and chose which drivers you want to use there
[02:43] <westmi> AndroidLoverInSF, AFAIK, your looking in the wrong place
[02:45] <AndroidLoverInSF> i cant find 'hardware drivers' under 'system'
[02:46] <AndroidLoverInSF> i'm going intou ubuntu software center and search there
[02:46] <AndroidLoverInSF> but i dont know what kind of card i have
[02:50] <AndroidLoverInSF> do i need to enable some other 'other software' under the update manager
[02:58] <leontopod> ok I am updating and it has been stuck at "running dpkg" at 52% for an hour now
[02:58] <leontopod> is it stuck?
[03:20] <leontopod> wow
[03:20] <leontopod> I had to remove the battery to reboot my netbook
[03:20] <leontopod> I guess kubuntu is now in an undefined state
[03:20] <Kimlaroux> I think you can still recover it
[03:21] <leontopod> well I was able to reboot
[03:21] <leontopod> and it booted clean as far as I can tell
[03:21] <Kimlaroux> and it booted?
[03:21] <leontopod> but I don't know what state it's in
[03:21] <leontopod> it's a "down machine", as they say in the industry
[03:21] <leontopod> until it is checked out
[03:21] <Kimlaroux> you were updating from what to what?
[03:22] <leontopod> I installed kubuntu on my netbook using a thumb drive
[03:22] <leontopod> that all worked fine
[03:22] <leontopod> it didn't look like kde at first, not the kde that I am used to
[03:22] <leontopod> but I was able to get help with that
[03:22] <leontopod> and now it looks like the kde I am familiar with
[03:22] <leontopod> except, there was a yellow icon screaming at me to run updates
[03:23] <leontopod> so I clicked on it
[03:23] <leontopod> and it started doing hundreds of updates
[03:23] <Kimlaroux> outch
[03:23] <leontopod> then it started "running dpkg"
[03:23] <leontopod> and got stuck at 52%
[03:23] <leontopod> so what did I do wrong?
[03:23] <leontopod> I have no idea
[03:23] <Kimlaroux> when you go to your package tool and refresh the updates, does it list any?
[03:23] <leontopod> where is the package tool?
[03:24] <leontopod> and what btw is dpkg?
[03:24] <Kimlaroux> dpkg is the tool that takes care of the packages on your system, it installs them, configure them and keeps them up to date
[03:24] <leontopod> wow, it crashed
[03:24] <leontopod> that can't be good
[03:25] <leontopod> my system is in an undefined state right now
[03:25] <leontopod> I think I am going to reinstall from scratch
[03:25] <leontopod> and try just plain ubuntu this time
[03:25] <Kimlaroux> meh
[03:26] <Kimlaroux> you could try to do "dpkg-reconfigure -all
[03:26] <Kimlaroux> this will redo everything dpkg was doing when it hung
[06:13] <leontopod> it's too quiet
[06:41] <arinov> hi
[06:42] <arinov> i have network printer on Windows coputer and i cant connect Kubuntu via samba to it
[06:42] <arinov> i have samba, cups installed
[06:43] <arinov> when i refresh list of computers in local network through Windows Printer via SAMBA i have computer names but no printers
[06:44] <arinov> but i have another linux distro with gnome where printer is configured
[06:44] <arinov> and works fine
[06:44] <arinov> Kubuntu 11.04
[06:45] <arinov> where can i read step-by-step instructions or how to fix it?
[07:05] <hellslinger> anyone have experience configuring smb4k? When I click on a share in network neighborhood, it faisl to mount because it can't find an entry in /etc/fstab... I'm using smb4k because I don't want to use /etc/fstab
[08:13] <amichai> does anyone know where the touchpad settings (from system settings panel) are stored? what configuration file they end up in?
[08:42] <amichai> ah.... finally found it, unde ~/.config/synaptiks
[08:42] <krise> Hi all
[08:43] <krise> how can i reset KDE to default settings
[08:46] <susundbe1g> remove your home directory should do it
[08:46] <ts2> krise: all your users settings for KDE are stored in the ~/.kde directory, you can just remove (or rename) that directory
[08:46] <susundbe1g> or even ~/.kde
[08:52] <krise__> ts2 is it the folder usr/share/kde4 ?
[08:53] <ts2> krise__: no, don't touch anything in /usr, just the .kde folder in your home directory
[08:53] <susundbe1g> krise__: mv ~/.kde ~/.kde_old as ts2 said sounds wise ..
[08:54] <krise__> ts2 i dont see kde folder in my home directory
[08:54] <ts2> krise__: it starts with a dot "." which denotes a hidden file/directory
[08:55] <krise__> sorry guys i need step by step help
[08:56] <ts2> krise__: just open a terminal and run "mv ~/.kde ~/.kde_old"
[08:57] <krise__> mv: missing destination file operand after `/home/krise/.kde'
[08:57] <krise__> Try `mv --help' for more information.
[08:57] <RedAshes> hey this is weird.. I'm trying to rm -r this folder, and it keeps saying "cannot remove, folder not empty"... the folder IS empty.  I have tried everything I can to delete this folder and nothing works! wtf is goin on?
[08:57] <ts2> krise__: you missed the second part "~/.kde_old"
[08:58] <krise__> ts2 , nothing happens
[08:58] <ts2> RedAshes: there may be hidden (dot) files inside it (especially if you got it from svn/bzr), but you can force it by adding the -f option to rm
[08:58] <krise__> krise@krise-HP-ProBook-4520s:~$ mv ~/.kde ~/.kde_old
[08:58] <krise__> krise@krise-HP-ProBook-4520s:~$
[08:58] <ts2> krise__: no error message means there was no error :)
[08:59] <krise__> well thats great :)
[08:59] <ts2> so you can just log out and then back in, and you should have the default settings
[08:59] <krise__> so what now
[08:59] <RedAshes> okay, -f is not working
[08:59] <krise__> ok
[08:59] <RedAshes> and there are no hidden files in it, I checked
[08:59] <RedAshes> in fact... the files in the folder disappeared when I first tried rm -r, which should have removed it regardless of files
[09:00] <ts2> RedAshes: what exactly do you mean by "not working"?
[09:00] <RedAshes> I mean its giving me the same error
[09:00] <RedAshes> "cannot remove, folder not empty"
[09:00] <RedAshes> dude it should have deleted it from rm -r
[09:01] <ts2> try running "ls -AR" on the directory, see what it outputs
[09:01] <RedAshes> dude... it has one file in it.. .fuse
[09:01] <RedAshes> I have ALREADY RMED THAT FILE 5 TIMES
[09:01] <RedAshes> it's still there
[09:01] <RedAshes> ok
[09:01] <ts2> what directory are you removing?
[09:02] <RedAshes> and besides that, rm -r is supposed to remove it REGARDLESS of files inside
[09:02] <RedAshes> I have used rm -r a bunch of times on folders with hundreds of files
[09:02] <RedAshes> Im trying to get rid of Kottonmouth Kings - Royal Highness
[09:02] <ts2> -r just means recursive, -f tries harder without prompting
[09:03] <RedAshes> uhm, I used -f
[09:03] <RedAshes> it refuses to delete the directory dude
[09:03] <ts2> use -r and -f together, "rm -rf ....."
[09:03] <RedAshes> I did
[09:03] <RedAshes> dude
[09:03] <RedAshes> what part of I have done that already do you not understand
[09:03] <RedAshes> it refuses to delete the directory
[09:03] <RedAshes> do I need to paste it for u
[09:04] <ts2> I would suggest you watch your attitude, all help here is voluntary
[09:04] <RedAshes> I seriously want rid of this folder
[09:04] <RedAshes> and it wont delete it
[09:04] <kbroulik> is it just me or does KDE 4.8 (or is it Precise's fault? dunno anymore if it happened before the upgrade to 4.8) no longer remember a configured screen resolution at all?
[09:04] <RedAshes> and I have tried everything you're suggesting already
[09:04] <RedAshes> thanks for the help
[09:05] <RedAshes> ed@Ashes:/media/FreeAgent GoFlex Drive/My Files/Music$ rm -r -f Kotton*
[09:05] <RedAshes> rm: cannot remove `Kottonmouth Kings - Royal Highness': Directory not empty
[09:05] <RedAshes> red@Ashes:/media/FreeAgent GoFlex Drive/My Files/Music$ l -a Kotton*
[09:05] <RedAshes> ./  ../  .fuse_hidden000003dd00000009
[09:05] <RedAshes> red@Ashes:/media/FreeAgent GoFlex Drive/My Files/Music$
[09:05] <FloodBotK2> RedAshes: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:06] <ts2> what is the output of "mount" (use the paste link above to pose)
[09:06] <RedAshes> http://paste.ubuntu.com/799123/
[09:06] <ts2> I said the output of "mount"
[09:07] <RedAshes> http://paste.ubuntu.com/799124/
[09:07] <RedAshes> there ya go
[09:09] <RedAshes> btw I copied this folder from a windows computer that had had a pretty bad virus on it, so maybe that has something to do with it
[09:10] <ts2> RedAshes: for some reason fuse doesn't want to release that directory, but try running the rm command with sudo, it should get it before fuse can re-add the file
[09:11] <RedAshes> okay
[09:11] <RedAshes> I already tried it with sudo, but not using -f
[09:12] <RedAshes> okay didn't work
[09:12] <RedAshes> http://paste.ubuntu.com/799126/
[09:13] <krise_> ts2 thanks
[09:13] <RedAshes> earlier when I played the songs using mpg123 it sounded like they were chipmunks
[09:13] <RedAshes> then the files disappeared
[09:13] <krise_> lost all my passwords do
[09:13] <RedAshes> its a cursed folder
[09:14] <ts2> RedAshes: ok, you should try un-mounting the device and then re-mounting it again, see if it helps
[09:14] <RedAshes> i hope it isn't corrupting the rest of my data cuz I bought all those albums... will try that now
[09:15] <ts2> krise_: this is why you renamed the directory rather than removing it, just copy over ~/.kde_old/share/apps/kwallet to ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet to get the KDE Wallet back
[09:16] <krise_> ok thanks
[09:16] <RedAshes> haha it worked
[09:16] <RedAshes> thanks a lot
[09:17] <ts2> no problem
[09:18] <RedAshes> I wonder why that happened
[09:20] <ts2> fuse can be odd, it does all kind of strange things, especially on NTFS
[09:21] <RedAshes> could it have been related to me using KAlarm to set up a command to play me a song in the morning off that drive?
[09:23] <ts2> I doubt it, I think it has to do with how fuse and NTFS handle deleted files
[09:23] <RedAshes> okay thanks g2g to sleep bye all
[09:52] <RedAshes> dang, just had 2 say one more thing.. that kinda makes me feel dumb cuz.. I probably didn't even have to delete that folder.  Well, now I know to make sure that my files are messed up before rming something.  Thanks for the help, and this OS is awesome for a free OS, it works a lot better for my purposes than any windows I ever had.  If I knew more about computer science I might not have made a mistake like that... too bad, guess I now gotta get another
[09:52] <RedAshes> copy of royal highness.  Goodnight all.
[09:53] <MarcoPau> hi, since last month I've been getting plasma-desktop and kde4-window-decorator segfaults at shutdown. is it a known problem on oneiric?
[09:56] <krise_> Ok friend, who helps me to install themes
[09:56] <krise_> i downloaded theme file from kde look but i dont know how to insytall it
[09:57] <sneauxwolf> list
[10:10] <beric> Hi. I installed the latest kubuntu and somehow cant see the network widget in the tray anymore. it doesn't even show the "Network management" in the tray settings
[10:11] <beric> I've googled quite a lot and tried many solutions but none of them worked
[10:14] <arinov> beric: check repos and try to find something by phrase "networkmanagement"
[10:15] <beric> what is repos ? apt repositories ?
[10:15] <arinov> yes
[10:36] <optiix> Hello
[10:37] <optiix> I have a AsRock ION 3D with ubuntu 11.10 installed atm.  Really need it installed =(
[10:40] <Peace-> optiix: mm?
[10:40] <optiix> Hello Peace-
[10:40] <Peace-> optiix: you need to explain
[10:40] <Peace-> fresh installation
[10:40] <Peace-> upgrade ?
[10:41] <optiix> Yes, fresh install
[10:41] <Peace-> what did you do
[10:41] <Peace-> live cd worked?
[10:41] <optiix> I have ubuntu there now. But im trying to get rid of Ubuntu so I can install kubuntu. The install process shoulöd take care of the formatting and partining
[10:42] <Peace-> this seems a system error
[10:42] <Peace-> i mean it's not kde fault
[10:42] <optiix> But the installw ont start. It goes to that: 1: The disc loads. 2: I see the blue screen with the kubuntu logo loading. 3: error before the install starts
[10:42] <Peace-> optiix: i can't understand this si the live cd?
[10:42] <Peace-> i mean the screnshot
[10:43] <optiix> The screenshot is the desktop version
[10:43] <optiix> 11.10
[10:43] <Peace-> ...omg
[10:43] <optiix> tested both x64 and i386
[10:43] <Peace-> you have installed kubuntu
[10:43] <Peace-> or that is the live cd
[10:43] <Peace-> ?
[10:43] <optiix> no. I try to install it
[10:43] <optiix> but the install wont start.
[10:43] <Peace-> so it's the freaking live cd that can't boot
[10:43] <optiix> I just get that screen
[10:43] <Peace-> ok download the alternate cd
[10:44] <optiix> testaed in both internal discdrive and asus BD-rom external
[10:44] <optiix> okey
[10:44] <optiix> so u dont think it is some IRQ in bios (if that is even possible to set IRQ in bios :|)
[10:44] <Peace-> optiix: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/11.10/kubuntu-11.10-alternate-i386.iso
[10:45] <Peace-> optiix: i don't knwo
[10:45] <optiix> Can u say...
[10:45] <optiix> What the difference is between the desktop and alternate?
[10:45] <optiix> why do u thgink it should work I mean?
[10:45] <Peace-> alternate supports more hardware and it's  is a text installation
[10:45] <Peace-> textual
[10:46] <Peace-> btw your screenshot is not clear
[10:46] <Peace-> i have to go now
[10:46] <optiix> okey
[10:46] <optiix> Thanksyou very much Peace-
[11:06] <optiix> Peace-, the install is starting now. Im greatful for your help! :D
[11:13] <Peace-> optiix: nice
[11:14] <optiix> :)
[11:14]  * Peace- uses always the alternate version
[14:13] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:30] <GirlyGirl> Hi can someone help me set up contact to sync with Google Calendar
[14:30] <GirlyGirl> I want to set Google Calendar with Kontact (KDE-pim) I am using KDE 4.8 RC2 (Build 4.7.97)
[14:32] <Peace-> GirlyGirl: you need to set up akonadi
[14:32] <Peace-> there are tuttorinal on google
[14:33] <GirlyGirl> Peace-: I know but following this http://jpwhiting.blogspot.com/2011/04/kontact-with-google-calendar.html I get an error message at the last step from kio about protocoal error
[14:40] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[15:35] <lonewolf_> hello
[15:37] <Guest77940> I have never used knetwork for file sharing.Does anyone use it?
[15:45] <Guest7357> hello
[15:51] <alonewolf> do i need to install samba when i have knetwork installed?
[15:57] <BarkingFish> only if you need to share with windows, alonewolf :)
[15:58] <alonewolf> ok thanks thought so
[15:58] <alonewolf> for using knetwork,  do i need ftp or ssh?
[16:00] <alonewolf> reading on them both. trying to learn to get sharing up and runniing.any help would be good.
[16:00] <alonewolf> running
[16:04] <BluesKaj> alonewolf,  ssh is great , and another alternative is NFS , this tutorial is easy to follo rw and works well , if you wish to share from a central server on your LAN ,https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[16:05] <alonewolf> good will go and look thanks
[16:57] <CharlieSheen> Hi, guys.
[16:58] <CharlieSheen> I have a huge question, that kind've reverts to my question yesterday.  I have a link here, you can see it is safe, it lists the drivers for my system's network card and stuff.  How...do I get the drivers? http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=97135&prodSeriesId=96306&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=1093#11395
[17:00] <ts2> CharlieSheen: usually you don't download them from the vendor, because they are under the belief that Windows is the only OS in the universe. most of the time though, Ubuntu ships the drivers you need anyway
[17:10] <CharlieSheen> TS2 - How do i find them, though?
[17:10] <ts2> try out the live cd, if everything works then they are built-in
[17:13] <CharlieSheen> Well, ya see, my friend got rid of his windows xp partition, and now only have kubuntu 11.10
[17:13] <CharlieSheen> So he cant go check his software like that, and has no option as far as a live cd goes
[17:14] <ts2> if they have Kubuntu installed, and everything works, then he doesn't need any drivers
[17:20] <CharlieSheen> ts2 - Wireless won't connect or even show wireless connections available lol
[17:28] <Guest7357> can someone please help on how to get network manager for lucid
[17:31] <EvilResistance> Guest7357:  apt-get install network-manager-kde ?:
[18:57] <flintwingel>  /msg NickServ identify hello12
[18:59] <Unit193> flintwingel: May want to change your password nwo
[18:59] <optiix> hm
[18:59] <optiix> more problems
[18:59] <optiix> the font size in "window" is like 50px
[18:59] <optiix> dont find where to change it
[19:00] <optiix> no sound. Ubuntu 11.10 finds 4 HDMI. But Kubuntu only finds HDMI 1 and HDMI 4. Any clues?
[19:19] <mushroomblue> yup. freenode and Tor work.
[19:20] <mushroomblue> anyone in here have any experience getting kontact/kmail working with tor-based mail servers?
[19:20] <mushroomblue> they seem to error out immediately, saying the address doesn't exist.
[19:22] <mushroomblue> wtf. quassel is using 100% of my cpu.
[19:55] <optiix> hep
[19:55] <optiix> has to try debian also then
[19:55] <optiix> :|
[20:08] <julian38> hi boys and girls
[20:13] <TheAncientGoat> woah
[20:14] <TheAncientGoat> opening an xml file, with wine installed (which makes it open xml files by default) causes one heck of a bug
[20:14] <TheAncientGoat> opens thousands of instances of wine
[20:18] <almoxarife> lesson learned, when migrating from ubuntu to plasma-desktop do wipe 'pulseaudio' , i cna finally control the hardware with phonon
[20:30] <lordjj> almoxarife why hello.
[20:31] <almoxarife> listen i gave up on ubuntu for a few reasons, mainly i got tired of not be able to configure my desktop to my liking, so i went plasma-desktop
[20:31] <BarkingFish> guys - There used to be a program for specifically producing translations and stuff from .po files - can anyone here remember what the heck it was called please? :)
[20:31] <almoxarife> lordjj: i have not gone back
[20:32] <almoxarife> lordjj: smooth desktop with all the bling
[20:32] <lordjj> BarkingFish poedit
[20:32] <BarkingFish> aha
[20:32] <almoxarife> and shaved 300k off of ram
[20:32] <BarkingFish> !info poedit oneiric
[20:32] <BarkingFish> brilliant, thanks lordjj :)
[20:32] <almoxarife> lordjj: thats all i have to say :)
[20:33] <almoxarife> lordjj: oh, yeah forgot, and its a stable desktop! without the need for 100 ppa just to have icons
[20:34] <lordjj> almoxarife well I'm planning on going Arch in a few weeks, so I am interested in what DEs are available. Regarding KDE, it seems from some screenshots I've seen that fonts aren't well anti-aliased. Correct me if I'm wrong.
[20:35] <lordjj> That was my main issue with e17 also.
[20:35] <almoxarife> lordjj: i run plasma-oxygen, i dont see it, but i dont have alot of screen to scrutinize
[20:36] <lordjj> what's plasma-oxygen? A wm / composting manager for KDE?
[20:36] <almoxarife> lordjj: how will arch improve things?
[20:36] <almoxarife> lordjj: the composting is xrender or opengl ?
[20:36] <lordjj> almoxarife it won't, just saying that I do plan on testing with a bunch of DEs.
[20:37] <almoxarife> lordjj: oxygen is a theme
[20:37] <lordjj> Ok :P
[20:38] <almoxarife> lordjj: i had a dark mettalic ubuntu, i kept the same sort of look, i prefer dark menus
[20:38] <jamil_1> how can I assign keyboard shortcuts to special symbols like → ← etc
[20:38] <BluesKaj> been searching for a linux version of ldif to csv converter , but can't seem to find one for linux ...any ideas ?
[20:39] <almoxarife> BluesKaj: doesnt libreoffice do it?
[20:39] <lordjj> almoxarife yeah I like dark with hints of orange/ red ...
[20:39] <BluesKaj> almoxarife,  no idea , never tried
[20:40] <BluesKaj> almoxarife,  I'll check
[20:40] <almoxarife> lordjj: the hinting in kubuntu is blueish
[20:40] <almoxarife> lordjj: i kept the default
[20:41] <almoxarife> lordjj: what i noticed most was the shaving of 300k ram and still had the 'compiz' effect
[20:43] <lordjj> 300k? What do you mean
[20:44] <lordjj> This is my current desktop http://api.ning.com/files/P2cx4T-wM0FuPtX3KAlRhXMVz-F25punDGdsRuG7Gltl0g2JpptBGoyOsA7f3IlRHYhyONyq3YKZcyfYJ*Zvj3ddF4L8Rn5e/Screenshot2.png
[20:45] <nubb3_> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ redirects to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions
[20:45] <almoxarife> lordjj: how many desktops?
[20:45] <lordjj> what do you mean?
[20:46] <almoxarife> lordjj: how many screens do you keep apps running in?
[20:46] <lordjj> workspaces? just one. Never needed more really.
[20:46] <almoxarife> lordjj: i run 6, used to run 9, 9 is a bit much
[20:47] <lordjj> I just alt+tab
[20:48] <almoxarife> lordjj: i got used to it, keeps stuff in order for me
[20:48] <almoxarife> lordjj: what does alt-tab do?
[20:50] <lordjj> almoxarife using compiz, i set it to do this: http://api.ning.com/files/Fqq8zUJqSC-q9XAvVXeNZY4w3*XyLU3zhyzTA0ZGp4B4L2uVW2GFG3bq0caFEQ*C1P3qMY7tl6QbuPTaCtfjxSKwHS2axLlU/alttab.png
[20:57] <almoxarife> lordjj: http://imagebin.org/192923 , shows the content of the 6 desktops
[20:59] <lordjj> is that a video editor? Or a converter?
[20:59] <almoxarife> lordjj: where/.?
[20:59] <lordjj> bottom middle
[21:01] <almoxarife> lordjj: mplayer-kde's
[21:01] <lordjj> Oh :P.  I fiddled about with Kdenlive once
[21:02] <lordjj> It's not bad. Except that I there didn't seem to be any smooth fade in/out effects and such.
[21:03] <almoxarife> lordjj: plasma-desktop has all that bling, cube-fade-explosions-etc
[21:04] <lordjj> I'll use this screenshot as an example http://kde.org/workspaces/plasmadesktop/screenshots/general-desktop.png
[21:04] <lordjj> It just looks like something's wrong with the fonts
[21:05] <lordjj> They're not smooth
[21:05] <almoxarife> lordjj: i got hooked on multiple desktops-workspaces, i prefer to keep that is associate in its own space
[21:05] <almoxarife> lordjj: i dont think the pic you put up is plasma-desktop, looks like the old kde?
[21:06] <lordjj> almoxarife I don't know, what's this page: http://kde.org/workspaces/plasmadesktop/
[21:09] <almoxarife> lordjj: i dont know what to say, the icons are not what i thought the virgin desktop i started with looks like, the icon theme i use i believe is the out of the box install
[21:09] <lordjj> This says it's 4.3 i think: http://kde.org/announcements/4.3/images/kde430-desktop.png
[21:10] <lordjj> Can u screencaps one of your workspaces in full res?
[21:10] <almoxarife> lordjj: bu then i really never used kde before this, so i am not an expert
[21:10] <lordjj> I just wanna see what the fonts look like
[21:10] <almoxarife> with apps in it?
[21:13] <almoxarife> http://imagebin.org/192928 <-- lord
[21:15] <almoxarife> lordjj: i use some gnome apps just because i got used to them
[21:16] <lordjj> almoxarife thanks. Something about the font just kinda bugs me.
[21:17] <almoxarife> lordjj: text font//////?
[21:17] <lordjj> yeah
[21:18] <lordjj> Looks not anti-aliased
[21:18] <Zyleb> hi?
[21:19] <almoxarife> lordjj: i dont know that i have check for anti-alias
[21:20] <Zyleb> please could someone indicateme which utility could I use on kubuntu to setup multiple OS boot preferences???
[21:20] <almoxarife> lordjj: it was not set
[21:20] <almoxarife> it is now
[21:21] <lordjj> Zyleb something like grub-customizer?
[21:23] <almoxarife> Zyleb: grub accounts for found OS's, and will show them
[21:24] <lordjj> almoxarife you set anti-aliasing? Can I see now? (Might be called sub-pixel rendering)
[21:26] <Aerodinamic> lordjj I'm Zyleb, having some problems with the irc client
[21:26] <lordjj> What problems?
[21:27] <Aerodinamic> it freezed but it's not important
[21:27] <Aerodinamic> but how i run/execute grub
[21:27] <Aerodinamic> i have located a folder under boot but i dont know how to run it
[21:28] <lordjj> you don't run it.
[21:28] <Aerodinamic> text edit??
[21:28] <lordjj> It's something that handles what boot options you have on startup
[21:28] <lordjj> let me explain...
[21:28] <Aerodinamic> ok xD
[21:29] <lordjj> This is the grub screen http://blog.siliconforks.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/ubuntu-out-of-range-grub.png Aerodinamic
[21:29] <lordjj> It appears when you first turn on the pc.
[21:29] <lordjj> If you have another OS installed, it will appear as an option there.
[21:30] <lordjj> Aerodinamic what would you like to know?
[21:31] <lordjj> almoxarife you set anti-aliasing? Can I see now? (Might be called sub-pixel rendering)
[21:31] <Aerodinamic> yes, it used to appear but I still dont know why it loads automatically another OS... I have kubuntu installed, and an old messed windows xp which i would like to format but completely newbie on linux i'm lost
[21:33] <almoxarife> lordjj: i dont see much diff, slight maybe, i dont have the discremenating eye anymore, perhaps because i am going blinder everyday
[21:33] <lordjj> Aerodinamic if I understand correctly, you installed Windows after you already had a linux distro installed, and now it just boots directly to windows?
[21:33] <lordjj> almoxarife :P
[21:33] <Aerodinamic> if i could almost setup the boot order from kubuntu live cd i'll be happy
[21:34] <lordjj> Aerodinamic do I understand your problem correctly?
[21:34] <Aerodinamic> oooops sorry i didn't readed some lines, one sec...
[21:36] <Aerodinamic> not exactly, i had an old win xp installed which was corrupt then i decided to install kubuntu, then i changed the HD to another computer because the other one almost was dead but on the new harward it runs automatically win xp without giving me the chance to chhose kubuntu
[21:37] <Aerodinamic> choose
[21:37] <lordjj> Aerodinamic do you have another harddrive that was already on that pc?
[21:37] <Aerodinamic> yes
[21:38] <lordjj> Aerodinamic ok then you need to change your hard drive boot order from the BIOS
[21:38] <Aerodinamic> but its not conneceted now
[21:38] <lordjj> oh...
[21:38] <lordjj> what? Then where is XP from? I though you said it was corrupt.
[21:38] <Aerodinamic> yes, but he tries to load
[21:39] <lordjj> So is there only 1 hard drive connected now?
[21:39] <almoxarife> lordjj: see any diff? http://imagebin.org/192930
[21:40] <Aerodinamic> yes, one with an old winxp and with a kubunto, both installed on the old hardware where i transplanted the hd from...
[21:41] <Aerodinamic> yes, one with an old winxp and with a kubuntu, both installed on the old hardware where i transplanted the hd from...
[21:41] <Aerodinamic> sorry for repeating i thought the doskey could work
[21:42] <lordjj> almoxarife no :P
[21:43] <lordjj> Aerodinamic well, was there another hard drive from the pc you took it from?
[21:44] <Aerodinamic> no, it was the unique HD on the almost dead pc
[21:45] <Aerodinamic> i just want to setup the os boot order from kubuntu live cd, where i'm now, is it possible?
[21:46] <lordjj> almoxarife look at the fonts here http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/Ubuntu_synaptic.png
[21:46] <lordjj> thats what I mean by smoother
[21:47] <lordjj> Aerodinamic well I can't imagine why OS boot order would change, but I guess you can update or reinstall grub.
[21:47] <Aerodinamic> maybe from KDE partition administrator?
[21:47] <lordjj> Aerodinamic see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[21:48] <lordjj> Aerodinamic if you want to delete the windows partition and see what happens you can do that from partition manager
[21:48] <lordjj> But you'll probably have to reinstall or update grub
[21:48] <Aerodinamic> thxs lordjj, i'm almost completely newbie on linux and pretty lost xP
[21:49] <lordjj> Aerodinamic see "Reinstalling grub 2" : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling_GRUB2
[21:50] <Aerodinamic> ok, thxs! for now i will read a while, i have info on that hd i dont want to loose by an stupid mistake ;( thxs again!! xD
[21:50] <lordjj> Aerodinamic there's a special 100mb or so LiveCD that I recommend
[21:51] <Aerodinamic> Hiren's boot cd?
[21:51] <lordjj> Aerodinamic it lets you fix grub related issues. You boot from the CD and there's a tool (boot-repair) that let's you fix grub with one click
[21:51] <lordjj> Let me search for it
[21:51] <Aerodinamic> that's perfect for me xD
[21:52] <lordjj> Aerodinamic this is it:
[21:52] <lordjj> http://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/files/
[21:52] <Aerodinamic> thxs man!!!
[21:52] <lordjj> Boot Repair Disc. Boot it, run the program "boot repair"
[21:52] <lordjj> and try "recommended repair"
[21:53] <lordjj> Aerodinamic, more info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:53] <Aerodinamic> but i have to burn the cd right?
[21:53] <lordjj> Yes
[21:53] <Aerodinamic> okok
[21:53] <lordjj> Aerodinamic make sure to read up before you do anything :)
[21:53] <lordjj> especially the last link I gave you
[21:53] <Aerodinamic> yes, i'll do it xDD
[21:54] <Aerodinamic> thxs again xD
[21:54] <lordjj> Good luck. If it doesn't work, try reinstalling grub manually like in the 1st link I gave you.
[21:56] <Aerodinamic> ok ;) a lot to read xD
[22:02] <dumnut> hi, i installed ubuntu 11.10, when i click on wireless icon, it doesn't show list of wireless connections available. how can i connect to wireless?
[22:20] <RobertLaptop> Question anyone have problems with 11.10 and there plasma desktop crashing every few hours?
[22:28] <BarkingFish> RobertLaptop: which version of KDE are you using?  If it's 4.7.3, this is a known bug.
[22:29] <RobertLaptop> Let me check
[22:29] <RobertLaptop> It is a stand 11.10 install
[22:30] <RobertLaptop> BarkingFish, 4.7.3
[22:31] <RobertLaptop> Is there a fix?
[22:31] <RobertLaptop> Apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't show anything.
[22:31] <BarkingFish> one second, I know it's fixed here but I'm running a beta version of kde.
[22:32] <who_me> it's fixed in 4.7.4, gt it from kubuntu ppa. more info here: http://www.kubuntu.org/kde-sc-474
[22:33] <RobertLaptop> who_me, ok
[22:41] <RobertLaptop> Lets see if 4.7.4 works better as 4.7.3 has really sucked.
[22:58] <alonewolf> I have installed samba gui and when I click on it nothing happens.Can anyone help?
[23:01] <DerezzedGoat> alonewolf: what version?
[23:02] <alonewolf> version? I have latest kubuntu and installed latest samba then few minuts ago installed samba gui and nothing loads.
[23:03] <DerezzedGoat> alonewolf:   I don't see it in the packages apt-cache search samba | grep gui
[23:04] <alonewolf> installed with synapt manager
[23:04] <DerezzedGoat> smb4k?
[23:05] <alonewolf> 2:3.5.11 it shows
[23:05] <DerezzedGoat> alonewolf: did you try using dolphin to browse the network? I am trying to figure out what you are using...
[23:05] <alonewolf> and system-config-samba 1.2.63
[23:06] <alonewolf> no
[23:06] <DerezzedGoat> alonewolf: what exactly are you trying to do?  Dolphin has worked for me..  (in the past.. )
[23:07] <DerezzedGoat> alonewolf: I just click network, then samba shares, and I am browsing away
[23:09] <DerezzedGoat> alonewolf: and if I want to share, I can right click on the folder, and tell it to share
[23:09] <alonewolf> ok I have 3 computers.2 have kubuntu on them and one has windos xp. one of the linux comp. has a secound drive  from when i used vista. left it as is so it is ntfs ,trying to make home network.
[23:09] <zacarias> How do you take snapshots or screencasts with kubuntu?
[23:09] <DerezzedGoat> zacarias: screen shots,   Hit the print screen button. an excelent tool pops up that is very user friendly
[23:10] <alonewolf> print screen button
[23:10] <almoxarife> alonewolf: you want to network the kubuntus?
[23:10] <alonewolf> yes
[23:10] <DerezzedGoat> zacarias: as for screencasts...  hopefully someone else can help, I ended up googling and having to copy stuff
[23:11] <zacarias> DerezzedGoat: Thanks!
[23:11] <DerezzedGoat> zacarias: and convert formats...   any linux tool should work for screen casts
[23:12] <almoxarife> alonewolf: pick a folder with dolphin within your home folder and right click, see properties?
[23:12] <DerezzedGoat> alonewolf: do you want to share files from the kubuntu, or get to a folder on you xp, or both?
[23:13] <alonewolf> yes i have done that first time i did was a botton to install samba i installed it.
[23:13] <alonewolf> still not understanding this nwtworking.
[23:13] <mushroomblue> anyone know why bash would say "/usr/bin/skype: no such file or directory" when /usr/bin/skype exists? I did an apt-get purge and reinstall, and still getting the message.
[23:13] <rats__> zacarias: try this  ffmpeg -f x11grab -s 1024x768 -r 25 -i :0.0 -sameq ~/my_video.mpg for screencast - just change screen res to your screen res
[23:14] <alonewolf> networking sorry.
[23:14] <zacarias> I don't see any menu with "shutdown" or "restart" options. I usually make use of the CLI commands for that. Is there a GUI interface for that (like there is one for Xubuntu, Lubuntu or Ubuntu)?
[23:14] <zacarias> rays_: this is a terminal command?
[23:15] <zacarias> rats_ :is this a terminal command?
[23:15] <almoxarife> alonewolf: networking the various machines requires you decide what folders from what machines are visible, visibility is decided by the OS using its own method
[23:15] <rats__> yes
[23:15] <rats__> works well for me
[23:15] <alonewolf> ok i understand that
[23:15] <rats__>  ffmpeg -f x11grab -s 1024x768 -r 25 -i :0.0 -sameq ~/my_video.mpg
[23:16] <alonewolf> the problem is that samba is asking for password i did not set one
[23:16] <DerezzedGoat> alonewolf: that is fun... it has always been a problem for me too now  that I thin kabout it.
[23:17] <almoxarife> alonewolf: samba in what app?  o
[23:17] <DerezzedGoat> alonewolf: try a username on the other computer
[23:17] <zacarias> rats_: how do you stop it?
[23:17] <DerezzedGoat> and leave the password blank  (if you made it so it does not need authentication)
[23:17] <alonewolf> i tried on both i put the information for me to login to my comp nothing
[23:18] <alonewolf> tried with other one to and nothing
[23:18] <alonewolf> will not let me login
[23:18] <almoxarife> alonewolf: this and that, speak linux and windows
[23:18] <DerezzedGoat> alonewolf: I had to do that a few times... also trying guest.   double check the share information as almoxarife suggested
[23:19] <alonewolf> thought the gui would help
[23:19] <DerezzedGoat> alonewolf: still don't know what gui you are using...
[23:19] <rats__> zac press q
[23:20] <zacarias> rats_: and for saving options, etc.?
[23:20] <almoxarife> alonewolf: and tag your conversation to a nick, i am getting tired of paying attention to you if i am not the recipient
[23:20] <alonewolf> would the information from the change log help
[23:20] <rats__> it saves in home file
[23:21] <alonewolf> how do i tag?
[23:21] <almoxarife> alonewolf:  tag your conversation to a nick, this is not your floor show
[23:21] <DerezzedGoat> alonewolf: type his name almoxarife
[23:21] <almoxarife> alonewolf: <-- tagged to you!
[23:21] <rats__> did it work zacarias
[23:21] <alonewolf> almoxarife
[23:22] <DerezzedGoat> alonewolf: that is tagging it,  Typically you always include peoples names when you are talking tot hem ina   busy room
[23:22] <almoxarife> alonewolf: try typing after the tag now what is what
[23:26] <almoxarife> DerezzedGoat: WA????????????? me too
[23:26] <kkerwin> Hi. Looking to download the qdbusviewer program. What package might that be in?
[23:27] <zacarias> rats_: it did. It's not the most starighforward way of doing it, but it works. I can always configure a keyboard shortcut (for starting it it's easy, for stopping I don't know very well how). Thanks!
[23:28] <kkerwin> Ah. Found it.
[23:28] <kkerwin> I think ...
[23:28] <mushroomblue> anyone know why bash would say "/usr/bin/skype: no such file or directory" when /usr/bin/skype exists? I did an apt-get purge and reinstall, and still getting the message.
[23:28] <fatum> Hello. My Plasma desktop shell closed unexpectedly again. http://paste.kde.org/184904/ <= developer information from a crash
[23:29] <kkerwin> mushroomblue: Checked file permissions? Do you have read and execute permissions on the file?
[23:29] <kkerwin> mushroomblue: ls -l /usr/bin/skype to double check.
[23:33] <mushroomblue> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 21362968 2011-06-08 05:26 /usr/bin/skype
[23:33] <mushroomblue> seems normal.
[23:33] <mushroomblue> /bin/sh and /bin/bash both saying file not found.
[23:33] <mushroomblue> at this point, I'm about to just reinstall out of frustration.
[23:34] <mushroomblue> had a .Private file corrupt today as well.
[23:43] <kkerwin> mushroomblue: Ok. Strange question, but do a "echo $PATH".
[23:44] <kkerwin> mushroomblue: Check that /usr/bin is in there...
[23:44] <mushroomblue> /usr/bin is in there.
[23:44] <kkerwin> mushroomblue: Thought so.
[23:44] <zacarias> what button or menu do you use to restart or shtdown Kubuntu?
[23:44] <mushroomblue> /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[23:45] <kkerwin> mushroomblue: Perhaps you have a bad hard drive, that resulted in your .Private file corrupting, as well as this issue with skype?
[23:45] <mushroomblue> normally, the shutdown widget inside lancelot. all of this started after rebooting after waking up from sleep mode.
[23:45] <mushroomblue> kkerwin: thinking so.
[23:45] <mushroomblue> brand new netbook, though.
[23:46] <kkerwin> Hrm. Maybe you can check the md5sum of the skype binary, and compare it against what's on packages.ubuntu.org.
[23:47] <kkerwin> If the sums are different, then you know you have some kind of corruption.
[23:47] <kkerwin> Oh, it's not an ubuntu package??
[23:47] <kkerwin> I'm out of ideas.
[23:48] <mushroomblue> yeah.
[23:48] <streetfighter> hi every body
[23:48] <mushroomblue> I re-downloaded the .deb from skype's website just to be sure.
[23:48] <mushroomblue> so yeah, just gonna reinstall, then.
[23:48] <mushroomblue> thanks everyone.
[23:49] <streetfighter> can i get some help ?
[23:49] <kkerwin> !ask
[23:50] <streetfighter> I have ubuntu 10.04 and there is a problem to use the wifi device of my pc
[23:50] <kkerwin> streetfighter: What's your wifi device?
[23:50] <streetfighter> may device is atheros
[23:51] <streetfighter> ar
[23:51] <kkerwin> streetfighter: sudo modprobe ath9k.
[23:53] <kkerwin> streetfighter: Did that work?
[23:53] <streetfighter> unable to resolve host ..??
[23:53] <kkerwin> streetfighter: Are you running that computer inside of a konsole at the moment?
[23:54] <streetfighter> no
[23:54] <kkerwin> streetfighter: Ok. Let's get a konsole up and running.
[23:55] <streetfighter> ok
[23:55] <kkerwin> streetfighter: Run "ifconfig".
[23:55] <kkerwin> streetfighter: Then paste the output to paste.kde.org, and post the link here for me to see.
[23:56] <streetfighter> eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:16:d4:96:2c:f9
[23:56] <streetfighter>           inet addr:<IP_ADDRESS>  Bcast:<IP_ADDRESS>  Mask:<IP_ADDRESS>
[23:56] <streetfighter>           inet6 addr: fe80::216:d4ff:fe96:2cf9/64 Scope:Link
[23:56] <streetfighter>           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[23:56] <streetfighter>           RX packets:718883 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[23:56] <streetfighter>           TX packets:502908 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[23:56] <FloodBotK3> streetfighter: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:56] <kkerwin> streetfighter: Make sure that you go to paste.kde.org or paste.ubuntu.com when you paste large pastes.
[23:57] <streetfighter> ok
[23:58] <kkerwin> Ok. Copy and paste the output to the website http://paste.ubuntu.com. The website will take you to a new page with a new URL. Paste the URL for me here to see.