[07:53] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Cool.
[07:53] <frenris_> doesn't kate come with kubuntu?
[07:53] <Dr_willis> !info kate
[07:53] <ubotu> kate: advanced text editor for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3.2 (edgy), package size 776 kB, installed size 2224 kB
[07:53] <kkerwin> frenris_: That's what I thought.
[07:53] <Dr_willis> optional :)
[07:53] <Minataku> !info nano
[07:53] <ubotu> nano: free Pico clone with some new features. In component main, is standard. Version 1.3.12-2 (edgy), package size 272 kB, installed size 1544 kB
[07:53] <Minataku> Standard, see? Just use that
[07:53] <chairmeleon> hello everybody :)
[07:54] <frenris_> nano is so much easier than vi.
[07:54] <Minataku> The poor guy's already confused and flustered
[07:54] <Minataku> And you're telling vi this and install that
[07:54] <chairmeleon> Does anyone know how to make Konqueror display file names without these "..."
[07:54] <Minataku> chairmeleon: Get a wider screen
[07:54] <frenris_> alright: Kate > Nano > Gedit > Emacs > vi
[07:54] <maciek_> i use kate and nano, vi is too hard for me:P
[07:54] <frenris_> :)
[07:54] <jeroen__> no database availeble
[07:54] <Minataku> Negative, Kate and Gedit shouldn't be on the list
[07:54] <Goliath23> how "stable" is feisty yet? :=
[07:55] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Alright. We're going to use nano
[07:55] <kkerwin> jeroen__: "sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[07:55] <chairmeleon> Minataku: Very funny :D No, but seriously. Nautilus can display the full names. Though, I can't get konqueror to do that properly
[07:55] <Minataku> As nice as X is, building a dependence on it is asking for disaster
[07:55] <frenris_> minataku: don't kate and gedit have just as much right as emacs to be on the list? I mean they are both graphical although emacs is totally bloated.
[07:55] <jeroen__> kkerwin why cant i find it on wiki?
[07:56] <Minataku> frenris_: See my last line
[07:56] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Well ... I'm not too familiar with the wiki. You can try if you like. :-/
[07:56] <jeroen__> do u have a linck so i can read how to install the right resolution
[07:56] <kkerwin> jeroen__: One sec ...
[07:56] <frenris_> Emacs isn't based on x?
[07:56] <jeroen__> the chat is going to fast
[07:56] <jeroen__> lol
[07:56] <Minataku> I know it's nice to have everything just work with a nice graphical interface, if something happens and that fails you should be versed in CLI alone as well
[07:56] <bernd_> hi
[07:57] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Understood. No prob.
[07:57] <Minataku> So you're not left out in the cold in the event X decides not to start one day
[07:57] <chairmeleon> Please, tell me if you know. Does anybody know how to make konqueror display the full file names (i.e, like Nautilus does)
[07:57] <bernd_> can anybody help me?
[07:57] <jeroen__> i'm in nano
[07:57] <Minataku> chairmeleon: There's no options?
[07:57] <Minataku> !ask | bernd_
[07:57] <ubotu> bernd_: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[07:57] <bernd_> ok - i installed beryl and it works fine
[07:57] <Minataku> frenris_: emacs is both, actually
[07:57] <chairmeleon> Minataku: Was that a rhetorical question? Are there no options to make konqueror do this? :/
[07:58] <bernd_> but if i restart the system, beryl is shut down and i have to restart it manually
[07:58] <Minataku> chairmeleon: I meant in the preferences menu
[07:58] <Minataku> There isn't an option for such that's just not enabled?
[07:58] <bernd_> i want to put it into the autostart but i can not find it
[07:58] <jeroen__> kkerwin i'm in nano now
[07:58] <chairmeleon> Minataku: Yes, I have tried that already. Changing number of lines, text width e.t.c. But whatever I do, it just looks totally out of place
[07:59] <Minataku> chairmeleon: Hm
[07:59] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Ok. Still want the wiki?
[07:59] <Minataku> I don't use KDE at all so I can't exactly help, sorry >.<
[07:59] <jeroen__> sure
[07:59] <kkerwin> jeroen__: http://tinyurl.com/2eepwp
[07:59] <chairmeleon> Minataku: OK, well thanks anyway
[07:59] <Minataku> chairmeleon: Hang around
[07:59] <Minataku> Someone will show up who can help
[07:59] <frenris_> !uboto
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uboto - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <kkerwin> jeroen__: Scroll to the very bottom gray box
[07:59] <chairmeleon> Minataku: BTW, if you're a gnome user? Are you?
[07:59] <jeroen__> how can i change to the Ubuntu chat?
[07:59] <Minataku> chairmeleon: Negative
[07:59] <frenris_> the irony
[08:00] <brendan__> Hello, I'm having a problem where usb 1.1 devices are not detected but usb 2.0 devices are. Does anyone know why this may happen?
[08:00] <Minataku> I'm not even an Ubuntu user
[08:00] <bernd_> how can i do it that beryl is started at the boot time?
[08:00] <kkerwin> jeroen__: "/join #ubuntu"
[08:00] <frenris_> uboto
[08:00] <Minataku> I'm a Gentoo user, as for my WM of choice, that's Fluxbox
[08:00] <Kyral> FluxBox FTW on low power systems
[08:00] <Kyral> (Or laptops)
[08:00] <Schuenemann> what does this mean? /usr/share/opera//locale/english.lng
[08:00] <chairmeleon> Oh, then this one goes out to eveybody else. Can you use the (much wider) variety of screensavers present under KDE in Gnome?
[08:00] <Minataku> No X FTW on low power systems
[08:00] <Minataku> lol
[08:01] <Minataku> I got 5h on a laptop rated at Windows/super-slow for only 3h
[08:01] <Kyral> Minataku: Fluxbox == Multiple XTerms on one screen :D
[08:01] <Schuenemann> what does this mean? /usr/share/opera//locale/english.lng - there are 2 slashes after opera, and the opera directory does not exist
[08:01] <Minataku> Keep in mind that would be 3h of unusable operating time
[08:01] <Minataku> Kyral: Nah, without X you get far more battery life
[08:01] <Kyral> Minataku: I hardly use my machine without A/C often anyway
[08:02] <Minataku> Same here
[08:02] <Kyral> The battery life is only about 1 1/2 hours
[08:02] <Kyral> Besides, Conky FTW
[08:02] <Minataku> Konqueror? *blarf*
[08:02] <Kyral> CONKY!
[08:02] <Kyral> Not Konq!
[08:03] <Kyral> Its a system monitor
[08:03] <Schuenemann> what does this mean? /usr/share/opera//locale/english.lng - there are 2 slashes after opera, and the opera directory does not exist
[08:03] <Minataku> The last time I used KDE was maybe a year ago
[08:03] <Minataku> lol
[08:03] <Kyral> Schuenemann: No idea
[08:03] <Schuenemann> =/
[08:03] <Kyral> Minataku: Then what are you doing here?
[08:03] <lotusleaf> Is anyone able to mount floppies in Konqueror? I have to resort to using Nautilus which makes me feel ill
[08:03] <Minataku> I was lured in with promises of free crap
[08:03] <Minataku> :D
[08:03] <Dr_willis> lotusleaf,  use the shell?
[08:04] <ForgeAus> lol Kyral he's having a bad fur day!
[08:04] <lotusleaf> Dr_willis: right, but for people who need to use a GUI mounter
[08:04] <lotusleaf> Dr_willis: I deploy Kubuntu to folks and none of them use CLI like I do
[08:04] <Kyral> The winds of change are blowing
[08:04] <Minataku> I was just saying earlier it's good to have rudimentary CLI experience
[08:05] <Dr_willis> lotusleaf,  im supprised any of them have floppies. :)  i dont even have one hooked up to test/check what may be wrong
[08:05] <Minataku> Since if X ever fails you're up sh?t creek without it
[08:05] <lotusleaf> Dr_willis: I know, I tell them all to use CDRW and/or USB thumb drives but (several of them) insist upon using floppies, so I guess if there's no graphical way for them to mount them with Konq in Kubuntu I'll have to have them continue to switch back/forth to Nautilus :/
[08:06] <lotusleaf> I think there's a bug on lp about this, I'll have to keep up w/ that
[08:06] <Minataku> Does Kubuntu have no way of checking the DCL?
[08:06] <Dr_willis> lotusleaf,  try looking in media:/  not /media/ - check the forums/wiki perhaps thares some bugglet.
[08:06] <Minataku> Or occasionally polling the FDD?
[08:06] <lotusleaf> Dr_willis: thx =)
[08:06] <Dr_willis> lotusleaf,  or just make a script that mounts, and unmounts the things and make some icons.
[08:06] <Dr_willis> I got a floppy drive here... but no floppys. :)
[08:06] <lotusleaf> Dr_willis: true that's one idea =)
[08:07] <lotusleaf> Dr_willis: I hate floppies and floppy drives
[08:07] <Minataku> Hey now
[08:07] <Minataku> Floppies are still useful
[08:07] <lotusleaf> I hates them!! :)
[08:07] <lotusleaf> Minataku: for frisbees
[08:07] <Minataku> Especially when working with old systems like I do
[08:07] <Minataku> A good 1.44MB floppy or two can still be an invaluable rescue tool
[08:08] <lotusleaf> Minataku: true
[08:08] <lotusleaf> Minataku: and with QNX 4 floppy demo you can boot into a GUI w/ mouse support and access the net ;)
[08:08] <Dr_willis> netboot. :)
[08:08] <Minataku> Indeed, lotusleaf :D
[08:09] <Dr_willis> I got a LS120 drive somewhere..
[08:09] <Minataku> Unfortunately most Floppy Linux distros lack ESDI support
[08:09] <Minataku> XD
[08:13] <Dr_willis> floppies are so 1980's
[08:14] <Minataku> So is a nice 6502, but I won't complain if presented with one
[08:14] <Dr_willis> I got several C64's :)
[08:14] <Minataku> I like Sun stuff
[08:15] <Minataku> I've got a bunch of bits and always looking for more
[08:26] <extern> why I can't run java applications (at least azureus and eclipse, haven't tried others)? They crash with some error about memmove
[08:26] <Valmarko> I'm having problems installing flashplugin-nonfree. ' Downloading... download failed.... The Flash plugin is not installed'. What should I do?
[08:26] <FreddyM> Valmarko: open up a konsole
[08:27] <FreddyM> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[08:27] <Valmarko> ok
[08:27] <ForgeAus> eclipse requires sun java
[08:27] <Minataku> Valmarko: I'd download the tarball manually and install it that way, but try that first
[08:27] <extern> I have it installed
[08:27] <ForgeAus> azureus I don't know much about
[08:27] <extern> but it crashse with mmemove error
[08:27] <Minataku> extern: Paste(bin) the error
[08:27] <Dr_willis> check your path and what java is being used ( java --version ) or (java -version)
[08:27] <Minataku> I don't think that has anything to do with it, he might have a bum Java install
[08:28] <Dr_willis> somthing to check at least. :)
[08:28] <Minataku> lol
[08:28] <Minataku> "Make sure Java is plugged in"
[08:28] <Minataku> XD
[08:28] <Valmarko> No... It cames out with the same problem
[08:28] <extern> I had the same error before reinstalling ubuntu to kubuntu
[08:29] <Minataku> extern: Paste(bin) the error, please
[08:29] <extern> ok
[08:29] <extern> I'm on it
[08:29] <Minataku> Coo
[08:29] <extern> pastebins are uploading slowly :P
[08:29] <Minataku> You know if it's a small error you can paste it here, or is it many, many lines?
[08:30] <extern> a lot of lines, but the main error is java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: memmove
[08:30] <extern> http://pastebin.com/864434
[08:31] <Minataku> Hm
[08:32] <Minataku> It seems there's a known bug open against it
[08:32] <extern> azureus practically gives the same error
[08:32] <extern> this bug has been there for quite a while, I think :/
[08:32] <extern> at least a month old
[08:32] <Minataku> Yeah, the Azuerus error is what I found
[08:32] <Minataku> extern: More than that
[08:32] <extern> sux :P
[08:32] <Minataku> It seems it may have been fixed at one point but was reopened
[08:33] <Minataku> Indeed, it's certainly a nice black eye
[08:33] <Minataku> Anyway, for functional replacements
[08:33] <Minataku> I use BitTornado
[08:33] <Minataku> !bittornado
[08:33] <ubotu> bittornado: bittorrent client with enhanced curses interface. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.15-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 147 kB, installed size 864 kB
[08:33] <Minataku> And for development tasks I use Anjuta
[08:33] <Minataku> !anjuta
[08:33] <extern> can it handle multiple torrents?
[08:33] <ubotu> anjuta: A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1494 kB, installed size 3760 kB
[08:33] <Minataku> extern: As many as you open clients for
[08:34] <Minataku> I've had at least 6 instances at once
[08:34] <extern> is there any client similar to bitcomet?
[08:34] <Minataku> I hope not
[08:34] <extern> why? :P
[08:34] <Minataku> BitComet is a bane on the BT community
[08:34] <extern> what does bane mean?
[08:35] <Minataku> !define bane
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about define bane - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:35] <Minataku> Aw, no dictionary
[08:35] <Minataku> The meaning of bane as an English form of nemesis, the bringer of ruin, dates only from 1577. Now an affliction, curse, evil, ill, plague, scourge or woe, in Old English bana had a more specific and immediate meaning, of "slayer", "murderer."
[08:36] <Dr_willis> i just tend to use ktorrent
[08:36] <extern> I don't see why bitcomet is so bad
[08:36] <Dr_willis> or wine and utorrent.
[08:36] <Minataku> I know people who outright ban BitComet users on sight
[08:36] <Minataku> extern: It's a cheat client
[08:36] <Dr_willis> bitcomet had some 'new' features that  can screw things up.
[08:37] <extern> what do you mean?
[08:37] <Minataku> That too
[08:37] <Minataku> It completely ignores the BT standard
[08:37] <Minataku> It's like if Microsoft made a BT client
[08:37] <Valmarko> Problem solved :) I downloaded the tarball from adobe
[08:37] <Minataku> They'd make sh?t up that are completely in violation of the protocol and call them "features"
[08:37] <Minataku> Which is exactly what BitComet does
[08:38] <Minataku> Not to mention also that it's a cheater client
[08:38] <Minataku> It fakes high upload ratios
[08:38] <Minataku> Which is a detriment to everyone, since sharing is how BT works in the first place
[08:38] <extern> I haven't noticed that my upload ratio would be faked
[08:38] <Dr_willis> i thought BT was all about putting zips in rars, and then into .bin/cues and then password protecting them...
[08:39] <Minataku> No, that's Limewire/Kazaa/etc
[08:39] <Minataku> Bittorrent, barring cheats and corporations is a good way to get things
[08:39] <Rawk> So uh, how about those AirportExtreme wireless cards?
[08:39] <Minataku> Even Linux distros such as Kubuntu use BT for distribution
[08:40] <Minataku> And as long as people seed to at least 1.000 the system works
[08:40] <Dr_willis> what BITES is when a disrto/company ONLY releases their stuff via Torrent.
[08:40] <Minataku> Indeed
[08:40] <Rawk> I hate that.
[08:40] <Dr_willis> I forget the disrto ive seen that does that...
[08:40] <Rawk> A lot do, don't they?
[08:40] <Dr_willis> so i spend a week downloading a iso - that then dident work. due to their male os.
[08:40] <Dr_willis> lame os.
[08:40] <Dr_willis> :)
[08:40] <Minataku> But sometimes such is necessary, think of the bandwidth loads involved with hosting a distro
[08:41] <Dr_willis> "SuperGamerLiveCd" i think was the iso heh.
[08:41] <Minataku> If you can get other people to assist with the hosting everyone wins
[08:41] <extern> well, is there a client on linux, which could have multiple torrent downloads in it?
[08:41] <Minataku> But then you have the greedy and the just plain as?ho?es who grab and run
[08:41] <Dr_willis> extern,  thats mosta ll of them.
[08:41] <Dr_willis> i use ktorrent all the time
[08:41] <Rawk> Can any one tell me if AirportExtreme wireless cards are supported in Kubunto yet, though? I'm on a PPC Mac Mini.
[08:41] <maciek_> which bittorrent client is the fastest?
[08:42] <dwidmann> or the people like me, who have next to zero upload speed, who would also grab and run :s
[08:42] <nixbox> how do i switch back to the previous kernel version, because in the update a newer kernel was installed and its causing problems with some drivers which were built with previous kernel version?
[08:42] <Minataku> Rawk: Ouch... I'm so sorry to hear that
[08:42] <Dr_willis> maciek_,  ive found it depends more on the # of peers/seeds - not client.
[08:42] <Rawk> Hah. Why's that, Minataku?
[08:42] <Minataku> Let me guess, misguided parent looking for a good gift accidentally buys crap?
[08:43] <Minataku> At least it's PPC, so there's no TPM chip
[08:43] <Minataku> lol
[08:43] <Minataku> Not that it matters when Apple cuts PPC off cold for being "too outdated"
[08:44] <Rawk> Yeah, but the opensource community didn't cut it off, so I'm good.
[08:44] <Minataku> At least you're using Linux, though, as for your Q, I think I'll check in return for hassling you
[08:44] <Rawk> Thanks
[08:46] <manesq> Nabend
[08:46] <manesq> kann mal jemand einem absoluten Anfnger helfen? ^^ Wie kann ich Forefox 2.0 installieren?
[08:46] <manesq> Firefox ^^
[08:47] <Minataku> !de | manchicken
[08:47] <ubotu> manchicken: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:47] <Minataku> Er
[08:47] <Minataku> !de | manesq
[08:47] <ubotu> manesq: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:47] <Minataku> Sorry, manchicken
[08:47] <manesq> ah ok danke
[08:47] <manchicken> heh, it's okay.  Tab completion is fun, no?
[08:48] <Minataku> lol, indeed
[08:48] <Minataku> Rawk: I see news that there IS a Linux driver for the chipset used in the Airport Extreme
[08:48] <HymnToLife> !firefox | manesq
[08:48] <ubotu> manesq: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[08:48] <Rawk> hmm
[08:49] <Minataku> Reverse Engineered, of course, due to the fact that Broadcom probably isn't a company you should do business with if you value freedom
[08:49] <manesq> thx ubotu
[08:49] <HymnToLife> !thank you | manesq
[08:49] <ubotu> manesq: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[08:50] <manesq> lol
[08:50] <Minataku> Wow... that's an incredibly complicated process
[08:51] <Minataku> I use Gentoo and I have one simple command to upgrade Firefox
[08:51] <Minataku> lol
[08:51] <BiroLX> hello?
[08:51] <HymnToLife> well, that's just if you want the Firefox from Mozilla
[08:51] <BiroLX> ohh
[08:51] <Minataku> Not to mention I don't have to retain the Ubuntu version to keep almost everything from breaking
[08:51] <BiroLX> i see a man talking:P
[08:52] <maciek_> Minataku: I use Kubuntu and I download Firefox from Mozilla site, I unpack the archive and I surf the net:P
[08:52] <Minataku> Though at least it's still called "Firefox" here
[08:52] <extern> I already have some torrent files downloaded, and I want ktorrent to seed them, the torrents are downloaded to read-only ntfs partition, is there a way to make ktorrent seed them?
[08:52] <Minataku> Not like Debian, God forbid they have a trademarked icon, that makes it completely incompatible with F/OSS
[08:53] <Minataku> I hate Debian, BTW, but that's pretty obvious
[08:53] <Minataku> lol
[08:53] <HymnToLife> Minataku, could you please stop trolling ?
[08:53] <jughead> I'm running ubuntu (with KDE installed later) on a Dell laptop with the Intel 945GM chipset (i810 shows up in xorg.conf).  Can I run Beryl?
[08:53] <Minataku> Gee, last time I checked stating one's opinions wasn't trolling
[08:54] <Minataku> Just because you don't like what I think doesn't mean I'm trying to start something with you
[08:54] <boss_78> Hello
[08:54] <vbgunz> anybody know why Konqueror doesn't show me any dialog boxes for moving, copying, deleting files/folders?
[08:54] <vbgunz> How do I enable that? without the dialog box, it feels like it freezes up :(
[08:54] <HymnToLife> trolling is starting pointless arguments
[08:54] <HymnToLife> which is pretty much what you are doing
[08:55] <_tom> what is the terminal command to rename?
[08:55] <Minataku> No, the only one who HAS started a pointless argument is you starting this one, which I will force-quit since it is, indeed, pointless
[08:55] <Minataku> _tom: mv
[08:55] <Minataku> There's no dedicated rename command
[08:55] <Minataku> Just move the old filename to the new filename
[08:56] <_tom> thanks
[08:56] <Minataku> np
[08:56] <HymnToLife> well, I wonder how stating how much Gentoo is the best distro in the Universe and you hate Debian is related to Kubuntu support but if you say so...
[08:57] <Minataku> HymnToLife: I will, however, apologize all the same, it wasn't my intention to start anything
[08:57] <extern> can anyone help me on that ktorrent thing?
[08:57] <Minataku> HymnToLife: I've never said such about Gentoo, I didn't know that saying "I don't use Kubuntu, I use Gentoo" as a notice that I may not be able to help as well was against any rules
[08:58] <HymnToLife> extern, to make ktorrend seed the files, they need to have the same name than the ones the torrent downloads
[08:58] <Minataku> I would think informing of a possible assistance deficiency would be a Good Thing (tm)
[08:58] <HymnToLife> Minataku, all right, that weill lead us nowhere, let's just stop it, okay ?
[08:58] <Minataku> extern: Was this the Java bug or a separate issue?
[08:59] <Minataku> HymnToLife: Indeed, and once again, I apologize, I wasn't trying to start anything
[08:59] <extern> HymnToLife: I have the files downloaded, and I can get the .torrent file for them, but when I specify the path where it was downloaded (it's read only) and press OK, nothing happens
[08:59] <HymnToLife> extern, do the files have the same name than what the torrent expects ?
[08:59] <extern> yes
[08:59] <boss_78> I have a problem with the pilot of my graphics board which can help me?
[08:59] <HymnToLife> maybe it's the NTFS then
[09:00] <HymnToLife> I've never tried to seed from it
[09:00] <extern> hmm
[09:00] <HymnToLife> !ak | boss_78
[09:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:00] <HymnToLife> !ask | boss_78
[09:00] <ubotu> boss_78: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:01] <boss_78> My graphics board however has 128Mo of memory only 1 is used. It is a s3 savage4 thank you in advance.
[09:01] <ubuntu__> is this the ubuntu help channel?
[09:02] <boss_78> #ubuntu
[09:02] <Minataku> daddydoc: No, this is Alcoholics Anonymous
[09:02] <boss_78> Ubuntu--->Gnome here it's Kubuntu so KDE
[09:02] <Minataku> Techically this is Kubuntu
[09:02] <Minataku> But if it has nothing to do with the GUI directly, we can still help
[09:02] <daddydoc> i am using konversation, how do I turn off notifications of people joining/leaving etc
[09:03] <extern> HymnToLife: I think that it's because ktorrent wants the files to be writable, as it may be not checking if the files are already downloaded
[09:03] <Minataku> Are you sure you want to do that? It would create quite the inconvience...
[09:04] <HymnToLife> extern, that's very possible, have you tried from a writable FS ?
[09:04] <extern> nope, but I may give it a try though
[09:04] <Minataku> If ktorrent isn't checking for the file's existance/status, that's a bug
[09:04] <boss_78> My graphics board however has 128Mo of memory only 1 is used. It is a s3 savage4 thank you in advance.
[09:04] <slacosse> trying to access my files on crased windows x64, ntfs.  how to access write/read these files from ubuntu (dual boot system)
[09:05] <Minataku> slacosse: NTFS write is extremely dangerous
[09:05] <Minataku> Microsoft likes to make it as hard as possible
[09:05] <Minataku> But
[09:05] <SSJ_GZ> I haven't tried in a while, but KTorrent used to have to import existing torrents in order to seed them, using a special plugin.
[09:05] <Minataku> !ntfs | slacosse
[09:05] <ubotu> slacosse: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions. For write access see !ntfs-3g or !fuse
[09:05] <extern> Minataku, maybe it is checking, but somehow requires write access to them
[09:05] <Minataku> But keep in mind that you have been (and will continue to be) warned
[09:05] <slacosse> thanks friends
[09:05] <Minataku> extern: Hm
[09:06] <Minataku> That could be, is it failing with an error on launch?
[09:06] <hyper_ch> hiho, what linux would you recommend to put on a usb stick?
[09:06] <daddydoc> 1
[09:06] <kkerwin> hyper_ch: Damn Small Linux
[09:06] <Minataku> Indeed
[09:06] <hyper_ch> kkerwin: why that one? (ok, the only other i know is knoppix) ^^
[09:06] <Minataku> kkerwin: Couldn't have said it better
[09:07] <Minataku> kkerwin: Small size, high functionality
[09:07] <extern> Minataku, it isn't failing with any error, I just want it to seed alraedy downloaded torrents, which weren't downloaded with ktorrent. The downlaoded torrents are stored on a read-only ntfs partition
[09:07] <vbgunz> whoa, there is no CD image of edgy? I have to download a DVD?
[09:07] <kkerwin> hyper_ch: Ditto on Minataku. It's pretty full featured. Comes with X and editors. You could use it to do pretty much anything.
[09:07] <Minataku> extern: Ah, do you still have the torrent metadata files?
[09:07] <extern> vbgunz, there is
[09:07] <HymnToLife> vbgunz, of course there are CD ISOs of Edgy
[09:07] <SSJ_GZ> extern:Check out my comment above.
[09:07] <hyper_ch> kkerwin: thx :) then I try that
[09:07] <kkerwin> hyper_ch: I've heard of people use it as their primary OS.
[09:07] <vbgunz> sorry
[09:07] <kkerwin> hyper_ch: It's that functional.
[09:07] <vbgunz> I was at the cdimage page and only saw DVDs... heh
[09:08] <Minataku> Perhaps they need replacing, ktorrent may not be reading/using them properly
[09:08] <extern> SSJ_GZ: I'll take a look for it
[09:08] <hyper_ch> kkerwin: hehehe :)
[09:08] <KennethP> My KNetworkmanager keeps disconnecting my WLAN and refuses to start at times. Any ideas or suggestions?
[09:08] <vbgunz> Whats the difference between the CD and DVD?
[09:08] <Minataku> KennethP: Paddling always solves problems with misbehaving applications XD
[09:08] <Minataku> vbgunz: One's small, one's huge
[09:08] <Minataku> Seriously, though, the DVD probably has all the packages on it
[09:08] <vbgunz> Minataku: awesome :)
[09:09] <Minataku> If you have network access during install just grab the CD
[09:09] <KennethP> Minataku: Paddling?
[09:09] <xenoterracide> how do I get alsamixer to keep it's settings on reboot? and how do I disable artsd system wide?
[09:09] <Minataku> KennethP: Yes, paddling. A few sharp smacks to the buttocks brings anything in line.
[09:09] <Minataku> j/k XD
[09:09] <Minataku> KennethP: The app probably isn't disconnecting it
[09:10] <Minataku> Is the signal of the AP you're connecting to really weak?
[09:10] <extern> SSJ_GZ: thanks, it seems to be working, but can I specify multiple files for a torrent? it allows selecting only one
[09:10] <KennethP> Minataku: It depends. But I see this under strong and weak signal conditions
[09:11] <Minataku> KennethP: Hm... I don't know if KDE pipes complaints to any file other than /dev/null so that's kind of frustrating
[09:11] <CrypTom> hi all, is there a repositories with the most current kernel for ubuntu?
[09:11] <SSJ_GZ> extern:Hmmm ... I would have thought so.
[09:11] <extern> or I may have to point it to a folder
[09:11] <SSJ_GZ> extern:Folder sounds more likely :)
[09:11] <Minataku> CrypTom: I'd suggest building your own but Kubuntu's simplicity actually makes such twice as difficult
[09:12] <Minataku> hm
[09:12] <Minataku> !kernel
[09:12] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:12] <hyper_ch> anyone got syslinux? I can't get it from kernel.org
[09:12] <Minataku> Ah, there's instructions
[09:12] <CrypTom> Minataku, well, earier I used to build my own kernel
[09:12] <Minataku> CrypTom: And it turns out there are instructions on how to do it
[09:12] <CrypTom> Minataku, ok thanks, I tried to, but got a kernel panic... so I will follow the readme, thanks
[09:13] <Minataku> I must say that the wording of that is rather offensive... "if you're convinced you do"
[09:13] <Minataku> Perhaps they just want to? But that's a rant I'll truncate here.
[09:13] <Minataku> CrypTom: Make sure you know what hardware you have
[09:14] <Minataku> It'll be absolutely required when configuring the kernel
[09:14] <CrypTom> of course, I have built uncounted kernels under debian earlier
[09:14] <Minataku> It seems like a daunting, complicated task at first but once you get used to it it's quite easy
[09:14] <Minataku> Almost fun, IMO
[09:14] <CrypTom> with the same hardware, but after switching to kubuntu, it didnt work any more
[09:15] <Minataku> That's interesting
[09:15] <Minataku> Because Ubuntu actually uses modern kernels, and they don't typically remove support for anything
[09:15] <Minataku> What was the panic, if I may ask?
[09:16] <BluesKaj> Minataku, maybe it's a wry remark by those who did all work that went into buildinf the original kernel
[09:16] <CrypTom> well, hmm, I dont remember, it was quite a while... but now, i want to make another attempt
[09:16] <Minataku> BluesKaj: It's so difficult to type the incantation to configure everything as modules
[09:16] <CrypTom> the thing is, i used to include other patches, like for example the skas patch (for user-mode-linux)
[09:17] <Minataku> Well, compiling your own you can continue to do such
[09:17] <BluesKaj> incantation ?
[09:17] <Minataku> BluesKaj: I'd have actually typed it but I don't remember it
[09:17] <BluesKaj> ok
[09:17] <Minataku> I use maybe 3 or 5 modules max
[09:17] <CrypTom> yes, so thats why I wanted to ask, if there is something special you need to know for the kernel buils under ubuntu (i've never used usplash for example)
[09:18] <Minataku> Everything else is compiled in
[09:18] <Balsamic_Chicken> where do i go for questions about vmware, what it is, how to install, etc, thx.
[09:18] <bobesponja> hey
[09:18] <CrypTom> and I've never used initrd either
[09:18] <Minataku> I used to
[09:18] <bobesponja> I can't change 'date and time', when I click on the administration mode button it keeps on loading but nothing happen
[09:18] <Minataku> But if everything you need to boot is compiled in directly there's no need for one at all
[09:18] <tgsaf> hi all
[09:18] <Minataku> brb, must attend to something
[09:18] <bobesponja> any idea what's wrong? that sucks :/
[09:19] <Minataku> Good luck, CrypTom
[09:19] <CrypTom> Minataku, thanks
[09:19] <tgsaf> anybody know how to fix the login loop in 6.1?
[09:19] <bobesponja> tgsaf: what login loop?
[09:19] <BluesKaj> don't ask me ...VMWare can damage existing hardware drivers in my experience ... not worth the trouble
[09:20] <tgsaf> i login with my username and password, screen goes black and then goes back to the login screen
[09:20] <extern> lol, the importing went okay, but when it wants to start uploading, it gives an error saying that it can't open the file, because it is read-only
[09:20] <xenoterracide> how do I init scripts to runlevels the "ubuntu" way?
[09:20] <tgsaf> happened to me yesterday and after trying a bunch of stuff, i formatted and reinstalled, but it's done it again
[09:21] <Dr_willis> !sysv
[09:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sysv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <Dr_willis> Hmm thers a runlevel editor program or 3 out. and some other tools.
[09:21] <tgsaf> i'm new to linux, so this is still a clean install
[09:21] <Dr_willis> ive read up enough on the sysv system to edit the rc.d stuff to tweak my runlevels/scripts
[09:21] <BluesKaj> Balsamic_Chicken, if ya need to run windows that badly then , mount an ntfs partition and load windows on it :)
[09:21] <tgsaf> i can login to the console with no problem
[09:21] <Dr_willis> tgsaf,  what video card ya got?
[09:21] <mildner__> anybody familiar with configuring different languages for example in kopete
[09:21] <tgsaf> nvidia 6200
[09:22] <Dr_willis> tgsaf,  have you installed the nvidia drivers yet?
[09:22] <BluesKaj> !kopete-languges
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kopete-languges - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <tgsaf> no
[09:22] <BluesKaj> !kopete-languages
[09:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kopete-languages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:22] <tgsaf> i tried to use envy to do so, but it gave me a problem
[09:22] <BluesKaj> !kopete
[09:22] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu2.2 (edgy), package size 6824 kB, installed size 18932 kB
[09:22] <Dr_willis> tgsaf,  envy? never heard of it.
[09:23] <tgsaf> i've been able to login with no problem and i think it was when i tried to lower the screen resolution that caused it
[09:23] <Dr_willis> hmm.. tgsaf  perhaps the 'fixres' site will  show ya how to reconfigure ya X server.
[09:23] <Dr_willis> !fixres
[09:23] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:23] <tgsaf> it's supposed to automatically detect ur card and install the drivers
[09:24] <Dr_willis> tgsaf,  dosent sound like it worked. :)
[09:24] <tgsaf> Dr_willis, could u give me the link? and does it tell u how to install the drivers?
[09:24] <Dr_willis> tgsaf,  perhaps it made a backup of xorg.conf in /etc/X11 - if so restore it.
[09:25] <daddydoc> i need help with ubuntu moving files from 1 hd to another.
[09:25] <Alarm> are ubuntu edgy repos also for kubuntu ? for example : deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy-updates main restricted universe multiverse ? dont want to download and install by mistake things that cant get installed on my system , i got kubuntu 6.10
[09:25] <Dr_willis> Alarm,  ubuntu and kubuntu use the same repos.
[09:25] <tgsaf> !fixres
[09:25] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:25] <Alarm> ohh ok :)
[09:25] <Alarm> is there any official site with a complete list of the repositories ?
[09:25] <daddydoc> i am using the live cd desktop right now
[09:26] <Dr_willis> daddydoc,  you trying to copy stuff over to a ntfs drive/partition?
[09:26] <daddydoc> no, the drive is xfs
[09:26] <daddydoc> i am moving files from a clobbered raid drive to a blank drive
[09:27] <daddydoc> the raid is /dev/sdb3 and the new hd is /dev/sdc1
[09:27] <daddydoc> when looking at the files, the user and group were 1000
[09:28] <daddydoc> so I chown to change permissions to root, root
[09:29] <xenoterracide> yes daddydoc
[09:29] <BluesKaj> !envy
[09:29] <ubotu> envy is a Python script that eases installation of the official Nvidia and ATI drivers. Please see http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html . Developers may be interested in https://launchpad.net/products/envy - See also !Nvidia
[09:29] <Minataku> Back... what did I miss?
[09:30] <Dr_willis> sounds like envy is somthing to avoide.
[09:30] <daddydoc> i need help with ubuntu moving files from 1 hd to another.
[09:30] <daddydoc> i am using the live cd desktop right now
[09:30] <daddydoc> when looking at the files, the user and group were 1000
[09:30] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Why is that?
[09:30] <daddydoc> i need help with ubuntu moving files from 1 hd to another.
[09:30] <daddydoc> so I chown to change permissions to root, root
[09:30] <Dr_willis> daddydoc,  if you su to root in the live cd. you should be able to  copy/move stuff over
[09:30] <Dr_willis> then fix the permissions later.
[09:30] <Minataku> The free drivers are unfortunately deficient, the nvidia one not so much but the ATI one quite poor
[09:31] <daddydoc> ?su to root? how do I do that?
[09:31] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  automated scripts - seem to cause more problems then they fix.
[09:31] <daddydoc> i am a newbie
[09:31] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Ah, the scripts
[09:31] <Dr_willis> daddydoc,  'su -'    for a newbie . you seem to be trying to run befor you can walk. :)
[09:31] <Minataku> Sorry, I didn't dereference correctly
[09:31] <Dr_willis> or sudo -s
[09:31] <xenoterracide> daddydoc sudo chown root:root <filename>
[09:31] <daddydoc> what else is new
[09:31] <Dr_willis>  i forget now.. heh .
[09:31] <Minataku> It's su -
[09:32] <daddydoc> I already did that sudo chown root:root
[09:32] <xenoterracide> it should have changed that file
[09:32] <Minataku> "su -" will, after giving the proper password, drop you into a login-style root shell
[09:32] <xenoterracide> if you want to change the all use -r and *
[09:32] <daddydoc> i am using the live cd
[09:32] <daddydoc> so what is the password?
[09:32] <Dr_willis> I think  it depends on if the root user password is set up also.  and whats on the livecd.
[09:32] <Minataku> That is, the same shell/environment you would get if you logged in as root
[09:33] <Minataku> daddydoc: Is it asking for one?
[09:33] <Dr_willis> i aint used the ubuntu live cd  enough to rember how it needs to be done.. could go to the console and set the root password to make it easy
[09:33] <Minataku> These are the times that disabling root is a Bad Thing(tm)
[09:33] <Minataku> Since doing serious maintenance work via sudo is a royal pain in the ... buttocks
[09:34] <xenoterracide> root should always be... disabled in a sense
[09:34] <daddydoc> I am trying to copy and paste files, but after the copy command, the paste is not highlighted.
[09:34] <xenoterracide> like not allowing root to log in directly
[09:34] <Minataku> root should be enabled but used very sparingly
[09:34] <daddydoc> I even tried the cp command, but that didn't work either
[09:34] <xenoterracide> I prefer sudo su -
[09:34] <Dr_willis> daddydoc,  use the shell. thats the best way
[09:34] <daddydoc> i use sudo
[09:34] <Minataku> Ah, that's the way, "sudo su -"
[09:34] <Minataku> Since there is no root password in Kubuntu
[09:34] <daddydoc> ok
[09:35] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  thats the same as 'sudo -s'
[09:35] <daddydoc> i will try sudo su cp etc
[09:35] <Minataku> Dr_willis: Really? I never used that
[09:35] <Minataku> lol
[09:35] <Minataku> But then I've never had a no-root system
[09:35] <daddydoc> i will be back....give me a sec
[09:35] <daddydoc> i am trying to move files before I officially install the system to hd
[09:35] <Minataku> My current wallpaper is awesome
[09:35] <daddydoc> so I can re raid it
[09:36] <daddydoc> brb in 5
[09:36] <BluesKaj> is the 2.6.19 kernel the latest ...I see knoppix has a live cd based on it
[09:36] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  i was thinking 2.6.20 is out. but i never pay much attention to it.
[09:37] <Minataku> The latest kernel can always be found at www.kernel.org
[09:37] <Minataku> For a quick way of finding out, finger www.kernel.org from a terminal
[09:37] <Dr_willis> every week theres updates :)
[09:37] <Minataku> And get your mind out of the gutter
[09:37] <xenoterracide> usually distro's are 1 or 2 versions behind
[09:37] <Minataku> ;D
[09:37] <xenoterracide> I just run latest stable
[09:38] <xenoterracide> for my distro
[09:39] <Minataku> I run whatever was current when I decided to install whatever that was XD
[09:40] <Alarm> why does automatix2 add deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu dapper-commercial main , in my sources.list although i got kubuntu 6.10 ?
[09:40] <Tm_T> Alarm: #automatix
[09:41] <Tm_T> !automatix
[09:41] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[09:41] <Alarm> okie
[09:41] <Balsamic_Chicken> hi, what channel do i go for questions about vmare, i.e. what it is, where to download/get it, and other info, thx alot. (o and i had to restart so i didn't see any msgs if someone answered me already thx)
[09:42] <Tm_T> Balsamic_Chicken: Well, check help.ubuntu.com/community
[09:42] <Balsamic_Chicken> o cool, yeah i just did a
[09:42] <hyper_ch> Balsamic_Chicken: if you don't know what it is, why do you want to download it?
[09:42] <Balsamic_Chicken> !vmware
[09:42] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player"). Instructions for VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[09:42] <Balsamic_Chicken> when i say i don't know what it is, i mean i don't really know what it is, i could guess what it is, but explaining all this is a waste of time isn't it
[09:42] <daddydoc> I seem close.  Maybe someone can help me
[09:43] <hyper_ch> Balsamic_Chicken: what do you think it is?
[09:43] <Balsamic_Chicken> is that ur answer to the question?
[09:44] <Balsamic_Chicken> cuz that's not too helpful at all lmao, and so u could go get attention else where
[09:44] <paladdin> hola
[09:44] <Minataku> VMWare is a virtualization system, it creates a virtual computer, peripherals and all
[09:45] <Balsamic_Chicken> thx Minataku
[09:45] <hyper_ch> Balsamic_Chicken: if you don't know what it is then I see no point why you want to get it
[09:45] <paladdin> como estan??
[09:45] <Minataku> This "virtual machine" functions just like a normal computer, except while entirely running as a process within another OS
[09:45] <Minataku> !es | paladdin
[09:45] <ubotu> paladdin: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:45] <Minataku> :)
[09:45] <paladdin> ok gracias
[09:45] <Minataku> No problemas
[09:46] <Balsamic_Chicken> hyper_ch: and because u don't think i should get it, therefore i wouldn't try to get it? go back to gradeschool if u aren't already in it
[09:46] <Balsamic_Chicken> Minataku: cool =)
[09:46] <Minataku> I hope that was right XD
[09:46] <daddydoc> I tried sudo cp /media/temp/stevebackup/* /media/tempsdc
[09:46] <Minataku> Balsamic_Chicken: It is cool, really fun to play with
[09:46] <Balsamic_Chicken> Minataku yeah i wanted to install mac os with it
[09:46] <daddydoc> and it say "omitted directories"
[09:46] <daddydoc> so nothing copied.
[09:47] <hyper_ch> Balsamic_Chicken: why do you want to get it if you don't know what it is... that's is a good question... why to get something when you don't know what it is... it just doesn't make sense... only if you know what something is you can decide on whether you want to get it
[09:47] <daddydoc> when looking over the file server, the directories that I want to copy have a picture of a lock on them
[09:47] <Balsamic_Chicken> Minakaku but i wanted to see if there's support, and if that makes sense at all to start with =)
[09:47] <Minataku> Balsamic_Chicken: There is NOT
[09:47] <daddydoc> the permissions are set at root, root ....any suggestions?
[09:47] <Minataku> Mac OS X is locked down via DRM
[09:47] <daddydoc> the lock concerns e
[09:47] <daddydoc> me
[09:48] <Balsamic_Chicken> minataku so i wouldn't be able to install mac os?
[09:48] <Minataku> It requires an actual Mac with appropriate rights-removing technology to run without hacking and slashing
[09:48] <Minataku> Not that I can imagine why anyone would want to in the first place... the short answer is no
[09:49] <daddydoc> anyone?
[09:49] <Minataku> The long answer is: Not without considerable hoop-jumping and hullaballoo
[09:49] <Balsamic_Chicken> minataku what about the mac os x86 hacked version on bitorrent, i mostly just want to try it out for fun as project that kills time =) not to steal anything since i have an imac anyway
[09:50] <Minataku> Ah, you have that one
[09:50] <daddydoc> how do I remove the "lock" from the file directory so I can access and move files and directories?
[09:50] <Minataku> That should work
[09:50] <Minataku> daddydoc: Is the drive mounted read only, perhaps?
[09:50] <Minataku> You are working from the LiveCD, right?
[09:50] <daddydoc> i dont know, but i am using live cd
[09:50] <Balsamic_Chicken> Minataku yeah i saw some people say they try it on Vmware first, and it works, and saves alot of trouble about hardware compatibility, does that make sense, what they said i meant
[09:51] <daddydoc> trying to move files, so I can set up raid in future
[09:51] <daddydoc> permanent
[09:51] <Minataku> What they said sort of makes sense
[09:51] <Minataku> Using Mac OS X on the other hand doesn't make a lick of such
[09:51] <Minataku> lol
[09:51] <daddydoc> >
[09:51] <Balsamic_Chicken> hehe
[09:51] <daddydoc> ?
[09:52] <Minataku> daddydoc: I'm sorry, but I'm unable to properly follow exactly what you're doing
[09:52] <daddydoc> I am trying to move files from a partition on sdb3 to a partition on a new drive sdc1
[09:52] <daddydoc> I cannot copy them from one to the other.
[09:53] <Minataku> And RAID is involved somewhere?
[09:53] <daddydoc> it used to be, but now I am just trying to move files to a new hd,
[09:53] <daddydoc> by using the live cd
[09:53] <Minataku> What's the error returned?
[09:54] <nixbox> i am trying to restore grub after the installation of windows overwrote it, i am using the live cd, i tried grub and then root (hd0,7) but it gave me an error that it failed to recognize the device, my hdd appears as /dev/sda in fdisk, so i tried using sd0 too but the same errror appears?
[09:54] <daddydoc> it omitted the directories that I tried to move
[09:54] <Minataku> Ah
[09:54] <Minataku> You want to copy everything recursively
[09:54] <daddydoc> actually, i haven't been able to move any files
[09:54] <daddydoc> correct
[09:54] <daddydoc> or individually if I have to
[09:54] <daddydoc> but,
[09:54] <Minataku> Okay, where is the origin mounted
[09:55] <Minataku> And where is the destination mounted
[09:55] <Minataku> I'ma handcraft the whole command for you
[09:55] <daddydoc> origin
[09:55] <Minataku> Origin, the starting point, where the things to be moved currently exist
[09:55] <Minataku> It's mounted somewhere, where is that
[09:56] <daddydoc> just a sec
[09:56] <daddydoc> stupid irc
[09:56] <daddydoc> .../media/temp
[09:56] <daddydoc> for /dev/sdb3
[09:56] <Minataku> Okay, where is the destination drive mounted?
[09:56] <daddydoc> the destination drive /dev/sdc1
[09:57] <Minataku> daddydoc: It has to be mounted somewhere
[09:57] <Minataku> You can't just copy files to a raw device
[09:57] <daddydoc> is mounted /media/tempsdc
[09:57] <Minataku> Okay
[09:58] <Minataku> "cp -R /media/temp/* /media/tempsdc"
[09:58] <Minataku> That should recursively copy every last file from /media/temp into an exact replica on /media/tempsdc
[09:58] <daddydoc> I think I already tried that but something is amiss... I will try that again
[09:58] <Minataku> Well, barring the entries in /dev
[09:58] <daddydoc> brb 3min
[09:59] <Minataku> Which may barf up a load of errors but those shouldn't stop the copying process
[09:59] <Minataku> At most you'll get a load of crap like "Could not create node" or whatever, ignore those
[10:00] <Minataku> It just means that any device entries in /dev on the origin couldn't be copied/made on the destination
[10:01] <daddydoc> ok
[10:01] <daddydoc> I get permission denied, cannot create directories
[10:01] <Minataku> Immediately?
[10:01] <daddydoc> I tried it with sudo and got input/output error
[10:01] <daddydoc> immediately
[10:01] <Minataku> Hm
[10:02] <Minataku> Try this: "cat /dev/null > /media/tempsdc/test"
[10:02] <Minataku> Tell me what error that returns
[10:02] <Minataku> If it's permission denied try again with sudo
[10:02] <daddydoc> input/output error
[10:02] <Minataku> That's not good
[10:03] <Minataku> Pastebin your mounts
[10:03] <daddydoc> ?
[10:03] <Minataku> Type "mount" and tell me what it says
[10:03] <Minataku> It's gonna be a lot so you need to use this:
[10:03] <Minataku> !pastebin
[10:03] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:04] <daddydoc> alot
[10:04] <daddydoc> just a sec
[10:04] <Minataku> k
[10:05] <daddydoc> rw for both mounts
[10:05] <Minataku> Well, if you're copy/pasting via ten-fingers then give me just those two
[10:05] <Minataku> It's not liking something about that other drive
[10:05] <Minataku> Does a simple "ls /media/tempsdc" work?
[10:06] <daddydoc> ../dev/sdb3 on /media/temp type xfs (rw)
[10:06] <Minataku> Woah, xfs, never seen anyone using that before
[10:06] <Minataku> Try that ls, if that fails then something is definitely wrong with that filesystem/partition/drive
[10:07] <Kyral> What about JFS? :D
[10:07] <daddydoc> nope,  give me a sec, let me make sure it is still mounted,,,,, I am pretty sure
[10:08] <andre> anybody how to install java runtime environment
[10:08] <Kyral> !java
[10:08] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[10:10] <andre> ubotu thanks
[10:10] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[10:10] <matteo> mm, there is also sun-java6-jre
[10:10] <Minataku> Quite possibly not in Ubuntu
[10:13] <jarn> What do you guys recommend as a program for viewing and editing mp3 tags?
[10:13] <jarn> Er, id3 tags
[10:14] <daddydoc> i remounted it, and now with the cat/null thingie, it says permission denied
[10:14] <daddydoc> and ls shows no files,  of course, it doesnt have any
[10:15] <daddydoc> owner and group of the directories are all root
[10:15] <nixbox> !grub
[10:15] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:18] <daddydoc> ?
[10:19] <daddydoc> input/output error
[10:19] <daddydoc> I can see the files that I want to move, and access them and read them, but I cant seem to be able to move them to the new hard drive
[10:20] <daddydoc> it says 'cannot create regular life"
[10:20] <daddydoc> file
[10:20] <daddydoc> so the files are there, but,,, cant move them,,,yet
[10:24] <daddydoc> anyone/
[10:25] <Minataku> daddydoc: Try "ls -la" on the destination
[10:26] <daddydoc> just   ls -la?
[10:26] <Minataku> Yeah
[10:26] <Dell-Net> what is the name of the program u updating your nvidia driver with ?
[10:27] <daddydoc> hmmmm input/output error
[10:28] <daddydoc> maybe I should format the drive with a different files system
[10:28] <daddydoc> that is better than xfs
[10:28] <daddydoc> I have a lot of large files, I thought xfs was better for that
[10:28] <daddydoc> but right now, as long as it works, I dont care
[10:30] <slow-motion> n8
[10:30] <Minataku> daddydoc: lol
[10:30] <Minataku> Yeah, something is screwed up with that drive/partition/filesystem
[10:31] <daddydoc> it bugs me that I can read, and see my files, but I cant move them anywhere
[10:32] <Minataku> It's not that
[10:32] <Minataku> It's just that you can't move them to that particular place
[10:32] <Minataku> lol
[10:32] <Minataku> For some reason or another
[10:32] <daddydoc> do you know what a "locked"logo means on a directory? and how you can change it? to remove the lock?
[10:33] <Chousuke> it means you don't have the permissions to access it.
[10:33] <shadowhywind> hay all, i have a problem, I can not seam to be able to change the resolution of my external monitor. It keeps defaulting to my laptop
[10:33] <Chousuke> shadowhywind: you can to change the permissions from the folder properties if you are the file owner
[10:34] <Chousuke> oops.
[10:34] <Chousuke> shadowhywind: sorry, not you :)
[10:34] <Chousuke> daddydoc: you, instead :P
[10:34] <daddydoc> the owner is root
[10:34] <shadowhywind> *snickers* i was going to say something.. hehe
[10:34] <Balsamic_Chicken> how do i start vmware (from console)?
[10:34] <daddydoc> how do become the root from a live cd
[10:34] <Chousuke> daddydoc: sudo -i in terminal should work
[10:35] <daddydoc> what is -i
[10:35] <Chousuke> it makes a root shell
[10:35] <daddydoc> ah
[10:35] <daddydoc> how do I get out of the shell
[10:35] <shadowhywind> couldn't he also do sudo bash as well?
[10:35] <manchicken> daddydoc: Ctrl-D
[10:35] <daddydoc> what does ctrl - d do?
[10:36] <luca_b> daddydoc: it executes the "logout" command
[10:36] <Chousuke> shadowhywind: sudo -i sets up the environment better
[10:36] <manchicken> daddydoc: Ctrl-D is the keystroke for end-of-file.  End-of-file causes the shell to exit.
[10:36] <daddydoc> thanks
[10:36] <loki_> i have no window borders!
[10:36] <luca_b> manchicken: EOF? I thought it was EOL (but I can't remember)
[10:37] <manchicken> daddydoc: Many things also use end-of-file to let them know to exit.
[10:37] <Chousuke> loki_: most likely your window manager crashed.
[10:37] <manchicken> luca_b: No, ^D is end-of-file.
[10:37] <Chousuke> loki_: do you run beryl or something?:)
[10:37] <loki_> yea just started it
[10:37] <luca_b> loki_: Which version of beryl is it?
[10:37] <Chousuke> I suppose that would be it.
[10:37] <Chousuke> beryl is a bit unstable still I guess.
[10:37] <luca_b> loki_: there is a known bug in the KDE "window decorator" n 0.1.4
[10:38] <loki_> beryl was recently updated
[10:38] <luca_b> if you use the Kubuntu window decoration, it crashes
[10:38] <loki_> it's when i use the beryl one it breaks
[10:39] <shadowhywind> so anyone have any ideas on resolution issues?
[10:39] <luca_b> loki_: Oh, I wanted KDE integration so I never used emerald, so I'm not sure about that specific problem
[10:39] <loki_> i didn't' install emerald, i installed aquamarine or something like that
[10:39] <luca_b> loki_: if Alt-F2 still brings up something, you may want to start konsole first of all
[10:40] <luca_b> loki_: Aquamarine is the "window decorator" (i.e. the window manager) for KDE that supports beryl
[10:40] <loki_> how do i get these borders back
[10:40] <luca_b> loki_: if you have beryl 0.1.4 it will crash, as I said, unless you change window decoration in system settings
[10:40] <luca_b> loki_: does alt-f2 bring up the run command dialog?
[10:40] <loki_> it's 0.1.9 or something
[10:40] <loki_> i have a konsole open
[10:41] <luca_b> ok
[10:41] <luca_b> loki_: start the original KDE window manager with "kwin &"
[10:41] <luca_b> loki_: that should do
[10:42] <loki_> ok well i think kwin is running and i have borders but no effects
[10:42] <luca_b> loki_: kwin doesn't support effects
[10:43] <loki_> so what's the point of having beryl?
[10:43] <luca_b> loki_: if you want to try effect
[10:43] <luca_b> loki_: do a sudo apt-get install emerald, that's another window manager for beryl
[10:43] <luca_b> loki_:  if it says it's already installed, re-run beryl-manager
[10:44] <luca_b> loki_: and if you get no borders, right click on the beryl icon in the "system tray"
[10:44] <luca_b> loki_: and find the option about choosing a window manager, and click on "emerald"
[10:45] <luca_b> loki_:  I can't give you precise directions as I have translated options and I don't know how the look in English
[10:45] <luca_b> they
[10:45] <loki_> ugh this thing is still not working
[10:46] <david___> hola
[10:46] <luca_b> loki_: I know
[10:46] <david___> hello
[10:46] <david___> im spanish
[10:46] <Minataku> !es | david___
[10:46] <ubotu> david___: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:46] <luca_b> try writing "emerald --replace" in konsole
[10:46] <david___> ^
[10:46] <Minataku> :)
[10:46] <david___> soy espaol
[10:46] <Minataku> Woah... ubotu has an error
[10:46] <david___> ii spain
[10:47] <david___> ^^
[10:47] <Minataku> It's Espa?ol
[10:47] <Minataku> !es | david___
[10:47] <ubotu> david___: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:47] <david___> soy david siii XD
[10:47] <luca_b> Minataku: I see it fine here
[10:47] <Minataku> luca_b: When ubotu says it I see "Espaol"
[10:47] <luca_b> Minataku: perhaps a matter of fonts?
[10:47] <david___> algn espaol???
[10:47] <Minataku> And I know I have proper character sets
[10:48] <Minataku> luca_b: Definitely not
[10:48] <LjL> david___: are you deaf?
[10:48] <david___> ecesito un espaol porfavor
[10:48] <Minataku> I can even see Japanese characters
[10:48] <david___> i spanish
[10:48] <david___> i dont understand
[10:48] <Minataku> LjL: I think he's a troll
[10:48] <luca_b> Minataku: odd indeed
[10:48] <LjL> david__: escrive /join #ubuntu-es
[10:48] <david___> sory
[10:48] <david___> linux!!!
[10:48] <david___> the best os
[10:49] <Minataku> Kind of a deficient ban
[10:49] <LjL> david__: para entrar en el canal espaol por favor escribe /join #ubuntu-es
[10:52] <david___> hola
[10:52] <Minataku> lol
[10:52] <Minataku> Wot, no kickban? X3
[10:53] <tsdgeos> LjL: did you kick him for asking on spanish?
[10:53] <Minataku> Negative, tsdgeos
[10:53] <Minataku> He was removed for trolling
[10:53] <tsdgeos> good
[10:58] <loki_> jesus beryl is so buggy
[10:59] <Minataku> loki_: Think of it this way... the alternative is Windows Vista
[11:00] <Alarm> when installing an app with apt-get , and then remove it with apt-get remove , it doesnt remove also the needed libraries that has installed. how can i remove everything that this application added during the installation but isnt needed anymore in the system ?
[11:01] <Minataku> Alarm: That strapped for space?
[11:01] <foxbunny> hi
[11:01] <Alarm> Minataku,  what do u mean ?
[11:01] <Minataku> Alarm: Personally I'd leave them
[11:02] <nothlit> Alarm, use apt-get auto-remove
[11:02] <Alarm> autoremove .
[11:02] <nothlit> or aptitude to install things
[11:02] <Minataku> They're not gonna hurt anything by being there and only make for less work in the future when something else needs them
[11:02] <Minataku> Keep in mind that sometimes there are "retard dependencies"
[11:02] <Alarm> ok... i will leave them then
[11:02] <Alarm> :)
[11:02] <nothlit> Minataku, such a messy filesystem with orphans =/
[11:02] <Minataku> Where trying to uninstall something tries to uninstall everything
[11:03] <foxbunny> is there a repository with up-to-date versions of ghostscript APFL and GPL?
[11:05] <marcos_> ol[a galera, acabei de migrar pro KDE
[11:05] <foxbunny> Up to date GhostScript, anyone?
[11:05] <dope> i cannot close the server list in konversation when i run beryl :|
[11:06] <tsdgeos> !pt
[11:06] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[11:06] <Minataku> Ah, Portugese, neither of my guesses were right
[11:06] <Minataku> lol
[11:07] <foxbunny> does anyone use Kubuntu for DTP?
[11:07] <MidMark> dtp?
[11:07] <foxbunny> Desk top publishing
[11:07] <MidMark> that is?
[11:07] <foxbunny> Scribus+Inkscape+GIMP+GhostScript....
[11:07] <Minataku> Making pretty things
[11:08] <Minataku> Printing them up
[11:08] <foxbunny> creating publications for print (brochures, books, etc)
[11:08] <Minataku> Selling them for money
[11:08] <foxbunny> yeah, I wish
[11:08] <Minataku> lol
[11:08] <foxbunny> :D
[11:08] <Minataku> foxbunny: Thank you for choosing a Free OS to do such on
[11:08] <Minataku> One less Mac user is... well it's a relief if anything
[11:08] <Minataku> lol
[11:08] <foxbunny> choosing a free OS?! omg, I gotta go!
[11:09] <foxbunny> hehe
[11:09] <dope> i can't get a cube effect going
[11:09] <foxbunny> I never used mac
[11:09] <foxbunny> I use Linux for about a year and a half... well... close to two years now
[11:09] <Minataku> If I see those Mac commercials any more I'm gonna go to Apple's HQ and drop a deuce on their lobby's reception desk
[11:09] <marcos_> existe alguma chance de alguem q n'ao fala ingels sobreviver poraqui
[11:09] <foxbunny> I started a magazine on Linux DTP a while ago... but only for Serbian LUG....
[11:09] <Minataku> j/k, but it's fun to think about doing
[11:09] <foxbunny> so I'm not really a newb
[11:09] <foxbunny> :D
[11:10] <Tm_T> marcos_: I hope you can speak english too.
[11:10] <Minataku> foxbunny: Coo
[11:10] <marcos_> i dont speak english ?(
[11:10] <BluesKaj> dope , ' fgl_glxgears '
[11:10] <dope> ?
[11:10] <Minataku> !pr | marcos_
[11:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:10] <Minataku> Erm
[11:10] <Tm_T> Heheh.
[11:10] <Minataku> Oh
[11:10] <Minataku> !pt | marcos_
[11:10] <ubotu> marcos_: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[11:11] <foxbunny> Minataku: btw, my very first distro was Ubuntu, so I'm not new to this either... but I was using Arch for a longish time, and I have bad habbits...
[11:11] <BluesKaj> !3d gears
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 3d gears - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <Minataku> foxbunny: I know what you mean
[11:11] <marcos_> grato ubotu
[11:11] <foxbunny> Minataku: like wanting to get the newest packages of everything... :(
[11:11] <Minataku> !glxgears
[11:11] <ubotu> To display the FPS in glxgears, run 'glxgears -printfps' in a terminal.
[11:11] <Minataku> I started with SuSE then moved to Gentoo
[11:11] <BluesKaj> !fgl_glxgears
[11:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fgl_glxgears - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:11] <dope> when i rotate my desktop in beryl it's just 2 screens instead of a cube
[11:11] <foxbunny> Minataku: so, why did you?
[11:12] <BluesKaj> fgl_glxgears , works for ATI Radeon
[11:12] <Minataku> BluesKaj: I'm pretty sure what you're looking for is just glxgears
[11:12] <Tm_T> Well, stop fishing bot, go private. ;)
[11:12] <Minataku> foxbunny: I wanted to have freedom
[11:12] <Minataku> Face it...  You just hand money, no need to learn.
[11:13] <Tm_T> hand out even
[11:13] <dope> i should have 4 desktops but 8 are showing up in my taskbar
[11:14] <foxbunny> Tm_T: handing lots of money is a painful experience
[11:14] <foxbunny> >D
[11:14] <Tm_T> foxbunny: Give it to me!
[11:14] <Minataku> I'd rather do the aforementioned grabbing of a flame than pay thousands of dollars
[11:14] <Minataku> lol
[11:14] <foxbunny> Minataku: or have your bucks catch fire
[11:15] <foxbunny> ?
[11:15] <Minataku> lol
[11:15] <Thehound666> help please
[11:15] <Minataku> Well, if it came down to it, I'd rather put out a burning candle with my palm than use Windows
[11:15] <Thehound666> I had 30 GB of free disk space that vanished
[11:15] <Thehound666> I come back now and it says 0
[11:15] <foxbunny> Minataku: any new large repo lists out there? Haven't used (K)ubuntu in a while...
[11:15] <Thehound666> I've downloaded nothing
[11:15] <Tm_T> Seriously said, Windows works in some paricular jobs here, but no way can be my primary OS.
[11:15] <Minataku> Thehound666: Plug the drive back in *rimshot*
[11:16] <Minataku> Thehound666: Make sure something didn't go runaway and make some retardedly huge file
[11:16] <Thehound666> I don't see any new files in filelight
[11:16] <Tm_T> foxbunny: ;)
[11:16] <Minataku> Hm
[11:16] <Thehound666> in fact filelight claims the space is not used
[11:17] <Thehound666> but I can't even save a .torrent file
[11:17] <Minataku> Thehound666: Did a drive in a RAID set fail?
[11:17] <Thehound666> single drive
[11:17] <Minataku> Did something crap out and unmount itself?
[11:17] <Minataku> Hm
[11:17] <Thehound666> unpartitioned
[11:17] <Minataku> Unpartitioned?!
[11:17] <Thehound666> only Linux and swap
[11:17] <Thehound666> no extras
[11:17] <Minataku> Oh, okay
[11:17] <Thehound666> ext3
[11:17] <Tm_T> Er, there's partitions then. ;)
[11:17] <Minataku> I was about to say, swap files are for Windows users
[11:18] <Thehound666> so what ate my space? I checked it before I went to bed
[11:18] <Thehound666> I get on today and 0
[11:18] <Minataku> Thehound666: Well, there are supposedly ways to find out
[11:19] <Minataku> Think about files that are constantly updated with crap
[11:19] <Minataku> Then check them
[11:19] <Minataku> Look in /tmp, clear it out if you feel the need
[11:19] <Thehound666> none that I know to the tune of 30 GB
[11:19] <Thehound666> I did sudo apt-get clean'
[11:19] <Thehound666> it cleaned nothing
[11:19] <Thehound666> 0 bytes free
[11:19] <Minataku> Think about anything you may have left going that decided to crap itself all over 30GB worth of HDD
[11:20] <Thehound666> only rtorrent but it was only seeding
[11:20] <Minataku> Hm
[11:20] <Minataku> I fear possible corruption
[11:20] <Thehound666> ok any repair utility?
[11:20] <Minataku> fsck
[11:21] <Minataku> !fsck
[11:21] <ubotu> fsck is the FileSystem ChecKer, which runs automatically when you boot if you didn't shutdown cleanly. Type "man fsck" for information on running it manually. The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check; "sudo touch /fastboot" will skip a filesystem check at next reboot
[11:21] <Thehound666> WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
[11:21] <Thehound666> SEVERE filesystem damage.
[11:21] <foxbunny> Oh yeah, one more question... how do I display boot script output during boot? The progress bar just doesn't cut it.
[11:21] <Minataku> Yeah, you can't do that
[11:21] <Minataku> Thehound666: Look around
[11:22] <Minataku> See if there's anything that's insanely huge
[11:22] <Minataku> Look in /tmp or any other place where a huge file may end up
[11:22] <gnomefreak> foxbunny: remove quiet and splash from the boot options
[11:22] <foxbunny> gnomefreak: thx
[11:22] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:22] <Minataku> Say... does Ubuntu have core dumps enabled?
[11:22] <gnomefreak> Minataku: yes
[11:22] <Thehound666> it doesn't show in filelight
[11:22] <gnomefreak> Minataku: edgy?
[11:22] <Minataku> gnomefreak: Look around for hundreds or thousands of core files
[11:22] <Minataku> lol
[11:23] <Thehound666> which shows how much of my drive a file consumes graphically
[11:23] <foxbunny> gnomefreak: can that be an option during boot... like disable it by pressing Esc or something?
[11:23] <Minataku> gnomefreak: Unknown, ask Thehound666
[11:23] <Thehound666> worst is 10 GB but I know about the file
[11:23] <Thehound666> have had it for months
[11:23] <gnomefreak> foxbunny: yes you can edit it from grub or you can go into /boot/grub/menu.lst and do it
[11:23] <Minataku> Thehound666: What I'm saying is perhaps there are files that you DON'T know about
[11:23] <foxbunny> gnomefreak: ok, got it. thx
[11:23] <foxbunny> again
[11:24] <Minataku> Perhaps if something got into a crashloop it left hundreds of core files
[11:24] <Thehound666> Minataku: would filelight not show a huge file taking up huge space?
[11:24] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: if something crashed on edgy go into /var/crash and you will see an apport report with a coredump in it
[11:24] <Minataku> Thehound666: I can't say, I've never used Filelight
[11:24] <Minataku> gnomefreak: His issue is that he had 30GB free last night and 0B right now
[11:25] <gnomefreak> Minataku: thats not a coredump
[11:25] <surgy> !nvidia
[11:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:25] <Minataku> gnomefreak: I was thinking it could have been many coredumps
[11:25] <gnomefreak> unless firefox crashed like 300 times
[11:25] <Minataku> For example some app that relaunched itself after crashing and promptly crashed again
[11:25] <Minataku> gnomefreak: I gotta go eat, I'll hand this over to you
[11:26] <gnomefreak> ff and tb are the 2 biggest crash reports you will run into (most cases)
[11:26] <Minataku> gnomefreak: Really, anything that uses a lot of memory
[11:26] <Thehound666> /var/crash does not exist
[11:26] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: are you on edgy or dapper?
[11:26] <Minataku> But yes, food time, good luck, guys
[11:26] <Thehound666> edgy
[11:26] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: its there
[11:26] <BluesKaj> yeah strange , i visited the linuxkernel site and afterwards FF wouldn't load
[11:26] <Thehound666> I typed it in Konqueror
[11:26] <gnomefreak> its there by default you would have to remove it
[11:27] <Thehound666> and got error returned it does not exist
[11:27] <shadowhywind> anyone around that could help me with a resolution problem. It keeps defaulting to my laptop screen resolution, and not my external resolution, even after setting the correct size in xorg.conf
[11:27] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: try cd /var/crash/
[11:27] <gnomefreak> in terminal
[11:27] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: you didnt happen to remove apport did you?
[11:28] <Thehound666> no
[11:28] <gnomefreak> kind of hard to do without noticing
[11:28] <Thehound666> bash: cd: /var/crash: No such file or directory
[11:28] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm
[11:28] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: who else has control of your pc?
[11:28] <Thehound666> noone
[11:28] <Grim76> gnomefreak: I don't show that directory either.
[11:28] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: try apt-cache policy apport
[11:29] <gnomefreak> it should be there. unless it only generates with first crash report
[11:30] <Thehound666> it generated something but don't know what to make of it
[11:30] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: whats the name of it
[11:30] <Thehound666> apport:
[11:30] <Thehound666>   Installed: (none)
[11:30] <Thehound666>   Candidate: 0.28
[11:30] <Thehound666>   Version table:
[11:30] <Thehound666>      0.28 0
[11:30] <Thehound666>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages
[11:30] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:31] <gnomefreak> give me a min
[11:31] <dope> i should only have 4 desktops but there are 16  now :|
[11:32] <gnomefreak> ok it seems kde doesnt install apport by default
[11:32] <Thehound666> I have alot of torrent data but have somewhere to ftp it
[11:33] <Thehound666> should I format?
[11:33] <Tm_T> Hrr.
[11:33] <Tm_T> gnomefreak: Have fun.
[11:34] <gnomefreak> Tm_T: ha
[11:34] <Tm_T> Good night kids, behave etc. ->
[11:34] <Thehound666> lol
[11:34] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: no give me a few im talking to devels that are here at this time of week :(
[11:34] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: anything look new?
[11:34] <dave_> Hi, does anyone know how to change the default applications in Kubuntu edgy? -The gui doesn't work!
[11:35] <dwidmann> dave_: which application are you trying to change?
[11:35] <Thehound666> new? just this problem that started small and exploded
[11:35] <tehpwn> Hello.
[11:35] <dave_> I want to make fireox default web browser etc
[11:35] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: any new files or things you havent seen before in your home dir.
[11:35] <Thehound666> no
[11:35] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: and you lost 30gigs?
[11:35] <Thehound666> just my torrents and rtorrent config
[11:35] <Thehound666> yes
[11:35] <dwidmann> should be able to do that in systemsettings, and it will work for you in _most_ apps.
[11:35] <tehpwn> So who want's to hear my current problem?
[11:36] <Thehound666> 0 B free space
[11:36] <Thehound666> exactly 0 B
[11:36] <tehpwn> (life isses) :(
[11:36] <dwidmann> tehpwn, might as well let everybody hear it
[11:36] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: ok give me a few im gonna go smoke and ill be back with a few commands to run. im not so sure you lost it as if it just doesnt list it anymore
[11:36] <shadowhywind> ok weridness, my login is fine (1680x1050) but when i log in it switches to 1024x768
[11:36] <dave_> dwidmann, the systems setting option doesn't work, there is a bug in it.
[11:37] <Thehound666> me too then, I'll minimise so I know if you talked by the time I get back
[11:37] <Thehound666> I definitely need one
[11:37] <dwidmann> dave_: what sort of bug?
[11:38] <dave_> dwidmann, you change the settings in the GUI, but the changes are not applied, I found a page on the web about it (but now i gan't find the page again to find the fix)
[11:39] <dwidmann> dave_: how odd, it always worked for me ... I have mine set to opera ...
[11:40] <tehpwn> Hummm, to start, currently I'm living with my aunt and uncle and they are getting kind of sick of me I believe... I know I needed to get a job, so I set up and interniew with Mc D's and am supposed to start work next week... I have worked at McD's before, hated the job and only was there because a friend wanted me to stay... So now I'm somewhat depressed because I reallly want to get into the computer field (hardware end) but I'm
[11:40] <tehpwn> having no luck searching for jobs on the internet and I have no idea what I shoud do... So yeah... Sorry for the long off topic post... hehe
[11:40] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: how big is hd
[11:41] <dave_> dwidmann, it worked for me in Edgy before (i upgraded from dapper), but since i did a frresh install of Edgy it doesn't :-(
[11:41] <BluesKaj> tehpwn, http://www.linkedin.com/search?reset=
[11:41] <dwidmann> dave_: I'm running a clean install of edgy :\
[11:42] <Thehound666> 200 GB
[11:42] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: all for ubuntu?
[11:42] <Thehound666> yes
[11:42] <gnomefreak> 200gig all for ubuntu
[11:43] <Thehound666> I torrent off Ubuntu
[11:43] <tehpwn> BluesKaj, I don't get it?
[11:43] <dave_> dwidmann, kdewallet also got screwed up in the reinstall, it doesn't actually send the passwords stored in it to the applications (eg kopete)
[11:43] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: menaing you host torrents?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> meaning*
[11:43] <Thehound666> kde wallet never worked for me but it's a non-issue to me
[11:43] <Thehound666> seed and leech
[11:43] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: no data was lost right?
[11:43] <dwidmann> I've got no idea dave_ ... you could delete the wallet using kwalletmanager perhaps
[11:44] <Thehound666> nope
[11:44] <manchicken> I love kwallet.
[11:44] <BluesKaj> tehpwn, networking for jobs
[11:44] <manchicken> It's so nice.
[11:44] <Thehound666> it's all there
[11:44] <bobleny> Hey, could someone help me? My computer will freez on shut down. It seems to be at random, but I find that hard to belive... If I remember right, it wont display the blue kubuntu sign and will just sit there.
[11:44] <manchicken> bobleny: Are you running the proprietary ATI drivers?
[11:44] <dave_> dwidmann, again i read about this issue before and can't find the page again
[11:44] <dwidmann> bobleny: probably a hardware problem ... like acpi or something
[11:44] <ahyup> <--- new to linux and ubuntu 6.06 ... havin an awful time installing on 770X IBM laptop
[11:44] <dwidmann> or perhaps buggy binary blob drivers
[11:45] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: are you using GUI to see your disks, is that how you found out your missing it?
[11:45] <Thehound666> I right clicked the folder I copied to to see if it's read-only
[11:45] <Thehound666> when I got the space error
[11:46] <dwidmann> ahyup: and what is making an awful time of it?
[11:46] <Thehound666> said free 0 B
[11:46] <ahyup> the installs keep failing
[11:46] <ahyup> at various points
[11:46] <bobleny> manchicken, Well, um, IDK, what are proprietary ATI drivers. I know I have a Radion ATI graphics card installed, is that what your talking about?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: just the folder?
[11:46] <ahyup> fdisked and reformatted ... no luck
[11:46] <dave_> Thanks for trying to help guys! 'Night.
[11:46] <Thehound666> yeah it said 0 B of 197 GB 100% used
[11:46] <dwidmann> ahyup, if you burned the disk  yourself, did you check it for errors?
[11:47] <manchicken> bobleny: Did you install the 3D drivers?
[11:47] <ahyup> yes .... chksum seemed ok
[11:47] <Thehound666> not sure why it say 197
[11:47] <Thehound666> drive is 200
[11:47] <bobleny> dwidmann, if it is a hardware problem, then howcome windows has no problem turning off and on?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: can you pastebin the output of df
[11:47] <manchicken> Thehound666: What does df say?
[11:47] <manchicken> gnomefreak: You win
[11:47] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:47] <gnomefreak> manchicken: i tried a few
[11:47] <gnomefreak> i needed size output
[11:48] <gnomefreak> fdisk doesnt give it
[11:48] <bxnp> tehpwn: how is your wifi connection still workinig
[11:48] <dwidmann> bobleny: I just said it _could_ be. Sometimes it doesn't shut off right for windows either (one of my old computers had t hat problem)
[11:48] <bobleny> Manchiken, uhh, I don't think I so.. I have no idea.
[11:48] <gnomefreak> wait a min
[11:48] <Thehound666> paste bin
[11:48] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: how bug was the folder you copied?
[11:48] <Thehound666> !pastebin
[11:48] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[11:48] <gnomefreak> big
[11:48] <bobleny> I just installed kubuntu and away I went
[11:48] <tehpwn> bxnp, it's working perfectly
[11:49] <tehpwn> :-D
[11:49] <Thehound666> folder I copied to only stores .torrent files
[11:49] <manchicken> bobleny: do a `dpkg -l | grep fglrx`
[11:49] <Thehound666> was copying a .torrent file
[11:49] <bxnp> and do you have other problems with kubuntu at the moment
[11:49] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: what size was it
[11:49] <dwidmann> ahyup, did you try using the "check disk for errors" option after booting the disk?
[11:49] <Thehound666> a few KB
[11:50] <gnomefreak> thats it
[11:50] <ahyup> yes ... did mem test too
[11:50] <Thehound666> yup
[11:50] <bobleny> manchicken, what is supposed to happen, it simply went down a line....
[11:50] <tehpwn> bxnp, no, just life :( lol
[11:50] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: while your at it pastebin the output of df -h also
[11:50] <dwidmann> ahyup, you say it froze ... how much memory do you have? I know it gets dead slow if the installer starts running low on memory
[11:50] <manchicken> bobleny: Okay, so it seems like you don't have that installed.
[11:51] <bobleny> Oh?
[11:51] <dwidmann> (speaking of the alternate installer anyway)
[11:51] <manchicken> bobleny: that's good.
[11:51] <ahyup> memory is marginal ... 192 meg
[11:51] <manchicken> bobleny: The ATI drivers cause problems like this.
[11:51] <bobleny> What dont I have installed, and why is it good?
[11:51] <dwidmann> shouldn't be any problem with 192meg
[11:51] <manchicken> bobleny: Do you have any wireless drivers set up?  like bcm43xx?
[11:52] <ahyup> my last try almost made it ... i'm just getting frustrated
[11:52] <dwidmann> anything less than 128 and even the alternate disk starts to chocke
[11:52] <dwidmann> *choke
[11:52] <bobleny> I have a linksys wireless USB thingy hooked to it...
[11:52] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: when pasted can you give me the links please
[11:53] <manchicken> bobleny: did you have to install anything fancy to run that?
[11:53] <dwidmann> ahyup, how long did you let it sit after you thought it froze?
[11:53] <ahyup> this is the first time i've been on irc in about 8 yrs ... i kinda missed it
[11:54] <bobleny> manchicken: No, kubuntu did it all its self, I just gave it numbers to connect to.
[11:54] <ahyup> about 20 minutes
[11:54] <manchicken> bobleny: Okay, so far so good.
[11:54] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: is ther eanything in the folder (the copy one not the original)
[11:54] <manchicken> Do you have anything in your /var/log/kern.log?
[11:54] <Thehound666> having issues with pastebin
[11:55] <dwidmann> ahyup, if you have a decent connection, try downloading the alternate install disk and using it to install ... I doubt it will fail.
[11:55] <Thehound666> says I'm appearing to spam it
[11:55] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:55] <ahyup> ok
[11:55] <bobleny> manchiken, let me check...
[11:55] <ahyup> then what?
[11:55] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: try pastebin.ca
[11:55] <gnomefreak> type that in browser and it will bring you there
[11:55] <dwidmann> thehound666, the pastebin referred by ubotu seems to be giving everybody this problem lately
[11:55] <Thehound666> got it 1 sec
[11:56] <Thehound666> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/2479/
[11:56] <lemon> ciao
[11:56] <Thehound666> 3rd time was a charm
[11:56] <lemon> help!
[11:56] <Thehound666> after reloading
[11:56] <lemon> !help
[11:56] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[11:56] <bobleny> manchicken: Nope, just an empty file...
[11:57] <manchicken> bobleny: What about /var/log/messages?
[11:58] <ciscosurfer> Hello.  I am primarily a GNOME user but have decided to try my hand at KDE (I've installed kubuntu)...what is the best way to start customizing my new environment?  thanks :-)
[11:58] <Minataku> Back
[11:58] <Minataku> Thehound666: Figure out what was up?
[11:59] <Thehound666> not yet gnomefreak is looking at my paste
[11:59] <Minataku> ciscosurfer: First of all, congratulations for switching, you won't be disappointed... then again after GNOME even Windows looks good ;D
[11:59] <gnomefreak> ok im thinking i know it
[11:59] <bobleny> There are some words but I have no idea what any of it means.
[11:59] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: is it possible the torrents unpacked when coping it?
[11:59] <ahyup> i'm going to give the alternate installation CD a shot ... thans for your help
[11:59] <manchicken> bobleny: Pastebin it.
[11:59] <manchicken> !pastebin
[11:59] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel.   Awesome.
[12:01] <ciscosurfer> Minataku: I understand that.  Can you at least lead me in right direction?  A link perhaps?
[12:01] <Minataku> !kde
[12:01] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[12:01] <Thehound666> lol I got 28 MB free
[12:02] <Minataku> lol, not that
[12:02] <Minataku> XD
[12:02] <gnomefreak> thats it
[12:02] <manchicken> bobleny: I have no idea what's going on to be honest.  What type of processor are you running?
[12:02] <Minataku> Can anyone point ciscosurfer to info on customizing KDE
[12:02] <gnomefreak> how many times did you copy it and in what dir?
[12:02] <Minataku> ciscosurfer: I think KDE has a whole built-in help system
[12:02] <Minataku> Kinda like CDE has
[12:02] <Thehound666> once but that was my whole trash I emptied
[12:02] <bobleny> manchicken: AMD Athlon?
[12:02] <Thehound666> forgot I deleted 2 rars before
[12:03] <manchicken> bobleny: 64 or 32?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> 32
[12:03] <Thehound666> 14.3 MBx2
[12:03] <gnomefreak> im betting
[12:03] <bobleny> I cant remember... I  think 64
[12:03] <ciscosurfer> Minataku, dwidmann: ok
[12:03] <gnomefreak> kind of hard to miss the 64 sticker on box
[12:03] <manchicken> bobleny: Gimme a `uname -a`
[12:04] <manchicken> TOUCHDOWN
[12:04] <bobleny> wowa what?
[12:04] <manchicken> Sorry, wrong chan
[12:04] <Minataku> ciscosurfer: Remember, people have already made an effort to give you as much documentation as possible along with the software itself
[12:04] <bobleny> still, what is uname -a?
[12:04] <gnomefreak> bobleny: a command to run in terminal
[12:04] <Minataku> Don't just throw their work in the trash and come right to us ;D
[12:04] <manchicken> bobleny: Type it into your shell, and let me know what it says
[12:04] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: no let me think for a min
[12:04] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: did you copy it in terminal?
[12:04] <gnomefreak> or from gui
[12:05] <tehpwn> BluesKaj, Ok, what do I do after I sign up? I'm supposed to intive people?
[12:05] <Thehound666> no in the GUI
[12:05] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: ok
[12:05] <bobleny> Linux George 2.6.17-10-generic #2 SMP Tue Dec 5 22:28:26 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:05] <Thehound666> right click, copy-paste
[12:05] <Minataku> bobleny: uname is a command to pull information about the running kernel
[12:05] <Thehound666> but it failed to copy
[12:05] <Thehound666> due to space error
[12:05] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: maybe its all in cache?
[12:05] <manchicken> bobleny: That says you're running an i686 architecture.  That's 32-bit.
[12:05] <Thehound666> the cache can eat 30 gigs of HD?
[12:05] <Minataku> Linux Piyoko <IP_ADDRESS>-Pyocola-i686 #1 PREEMPT Wed Dec 20 23:21:32 EST 2006 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
[12:05] <gnomefreak> manchicken: clean cache in kde
[12:06] <Minataku> Mine is decidedly longer
[12:06] <gnomefreak> manchicken: oops how to
[12:06] <Minataku> lol
[12:06] <dwidmann> yum yum
[12:06] <Minataku> Why is the Kubuntu uname so short? O.o
[12:06] <bobleny> 32 good or bad?
[12:06] <Minataku> bobleny: 32 is just fine
[12:06] <manchicken> gnomefreak: Configure Konq, Cache, Clear Cache
[12:06] <Minataku> It's what we've all been using since 1989 or so
[12:06] <manchicken> bobleny: Not bad, just a different arc.
[12:06] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: can you try that i dont think its it but try it
[12:06] <bobleny> Ph
[12:06] <Thehound666> how?
[12:06] <bobleny> lol Oh*
[12:07] <Thehound666> apt-get clean?
[12:07] <virnik> :-)
[12:07] <manchicken> apt-get clean may help.
[12:07] <virnik> heh
[12:07] <Thehound666> did that before
[12:07] <Minataku> Specifically, 32 is the length of the data word the architecture works on
[12:07] <Thehound666> freed 0
[12:07] <virnik> havent updated by apt for a six monts
[12:07] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: try that too
[12:07] <virnik> months
[12:07] <virnik> now it will take almost hour
[12:07] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: clear out cache in konq
[12:07] <tehpwn> !skype
[12:07] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[12:07] <Minataku> This is<PHONE_NUMBER>0000000000000000000000 in binary, 0x00000000 in hexadecimal
[12:07] <MidMark> guys today I have learned that kppp isn't able to set default gateway if there is an ethernet card enabled... is there a workaround?
[12:07] <gnomefreak> its not gonna help i wouldnt think
[12:07] <lemon> !nvidia
[12:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:08] <Minataku> Compared to 64bit, which I'm not typing out in binary but is 0x0000000000000000 in hexadecimal
[12:08] <lemon> !list
[12:08] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:08] <BluesKaj> isn't kppp a dialup program ?
[12:08] <dwidmann> BluesKaj: yes
[12:08] <Thehound666> Konqueror is not set to use one
[12:08] <MidMark> BluesKaj: yes
[12:08] <Thehound666> I use Firefox for my browsing anyways
[12:09] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: what gui did you use to copy the folder
[12:10] <Thehound666> I used the normal default desktop
[12:10] <BluesKaj> MidMark,  then maybe the ethernet card should be taken out of the pc and replaced with a dialup modem
[12:10] <Thehound666> which is Konqueror but it's unchecked
[12:10] <Thehound666> the option "use cache"
[12:10] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: its on your desktop not your home dir?
[12:10] <Minataku> Why replace it?
[12:10] <Minataku> There should be plenty of open slots
[12:10] <Minataku> lol
[12:10] <BluesKaj> or bypass it somehow
[12:10] <dope> my freaking windows are going black!
[12:11] <Thehound666> I copied from my Desktop to /home/thehound/torrents
[12:11] <Minataku> dope: Oh no, once they do that they don't go back!
[12:11] <Minataku> Sorry, that was really lame XD
[12:11] <MidMark> BluesKaj: the problem was: with BOTH an ethernet card and a dialup modem then kppp isn't able to set default gateway to the one provided by the connection, however disabling ethernet card make it works
[12:11] <dope> OMG!
[12:11] <BluesKaj> well if dhcp is gonna be default on bootup , that's my suggestion
[12:12] <Mayasha____1> my webcam on my site    www.ghidul-universitatilor.ro/?3853
[12:13] <MidMark> dhcp was off
[12:14] <gnomefreak> Thehound666: i would keep checking with people in here but i think coping the folder unpackage the torrents and possibly installed them (check if they are installed and when) but it had something to do when it was coping the folder it is reversible if that is the case (i would rather have someone a bit better with kde and its context menu than me


[02:39] <mup> Bug #1741179 opened: package maas-region-api 2.2.0+bzr6054-0ubuntu2~16.10.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 <amd64> <apport-package> <need-duplicate-check> <yakkety> <maas (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1741179>
[04:24] <mup> Bug #1731293 changed: [2.3rc2, UI] Previous results should be sorted by most recent first <2.3qa> <ui> <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1731293>
[04:33] <mup> Bug #1731293 opened: [2.3rc2, UI] Previous results should be sorted by most recent first <2.3qa> <ui> <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1731293>
[04:39] <mup> Bug #1731293 changed: [2.3rc2, UI] Previous results should be sorted by most recent first <2.3qa> <ui> <MAAS:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1731293>
[12:15] <mup> Bug #1712680 changed: cloud-init re-generates network config every reboot overwriting manual admin changes on CentOS. <cloud-init:Fix Committed> <MAAS:Invalid> <maas-images:New for ltrager> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1712680>
[13:21] <mup> Bug #1743776 opened: [2.3, 2.4] Editing a custom repository doesn't allow you to modify distribution, component. <MAAS:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1743776>
[13:52] <mup> Bug #1736626 changed: [2.4] Cannot add device from dashboard <MAAS:Invalid> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1736626>
[14:34] <mup> Bug #1743776 changed: [UI, 2.3] Editing a custom repository doesn't allow you to modify distribution, component. <MAAS:Invalid by ack> <MAAS 2.3:Triaged by ack> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1743776>
[14:40] <ejsf> hi, just installed maas and commissioned my first nodes, im impressed, very nice product :) just one question, i added the first node by hand and now i want to rename it, is there a way to rename a machine or is it better to delete it and add again?
[15:08] <ejsf> deleting and re-adding worked :)
[20:07] <mup> Bug #1679322 opened: maas-dhcp upgrade to 1.9.5+bzr4599-0ubuntu1~14.04.1 fails to start installed isc-dhcp-server <maas (Ubuntu):Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1679322>
[20:13] <mup> Bug #1679322 changed: maas-dhcp upgrade to 1.9.5+bzr4599-0ubuntu1~14.04.1 fails to start installed isc-dhcp-server <maas (Ubuntu):Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1679322>
[20:16] <mup> Bug #1679322 opened: maas-dhcp upgrade to 1.9.5+bzr4599-0ubuntu1~14.04.1 fails to start installed isc-dhcp-server <maas (Ubuntu):Incomplete> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1679322>
[21:31] <desigabri> hi
[21:31] <desigabri> please just a little help
[21:32] <desigabri> I read about Maas and I undertood that just the first machine need the ubuntu server plus maas...
[21:33] <desigabri> the other machines have just to be connected in PXE boot
[21:34] <desigabri> so I'll configure those machine from the primary node?
[21:34] <desigabri> is it right?
[21:35] <desigabri> so just more hardware power connecting and then bigger machine?
[21:37] <desigabri> is it a way to upgrade hardware power just connecting more hardware?
[21:37] <desigabri> connecting togheter
[21:52] <gunix> how do i assing a subnet to a space?
[21:52] <gunix> there is no button
[21:54] <gunix> also how can i enable dhcp?
[22:06] <gunix> found dhcp somewhere
[22:06] <gunix> pxe doesn't work unless maas is the dhcp server, it seems
[22:09] <gunix> i managed to get the vm to boot from maas, with the default image, but after that it rebooted and got stuck cause it doesn't find any bootable device
[22:33] <gunix> the error i get is "failed to enlist system maas server"
[23:04] <gunix> i figure this is where it is failing: https://github.com/cloudbase/maas/blob/master/contrib/preseeds_v2/enlist_userdata#L100-L130
[23:04] <gunix> as i get exactly that echo
[23:04] <gunix> on the screen
[23:07] <gunix> found an IP that shouldn't be there. there was a bad entry in /etc/hosts on the maas controller
[23:18] <gunix> ok, found the old IP in maas and bind9 settings files. changed that. rebooted once, machine popped in dashboard, rebooted again to scan hardware
[23:32] <gunix> i have progress. now the error i get is that mass can't detect storage, which is a virtio device on qemu
[23:38] <gunix> yep, hardware tests fail
[23:58] <gunix> fixed with hwe kernel. i THINK that is what solved the issue