[00:00] <bigboy69> but it gives no information about that
[00:00] <bigboy69> my battery is not losing charge
[00:00] <bigboy69> it stays at around 95-98%
[00:01] <bigboy69> and the power manager detects the charger
[00:01] <yigal> bigboy69: what is the output for 'upower -i /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_BAT0' ?
[00:01] <shibboleth> Can i get 16.04 testing install media and just keep updating until launch?
[00:01] <bigboy69> should I paste it?
[00:01] <yigal> bigboy69: I suspect it won't show new info. but it's good to double check
[00:02] <yigal> bigboy69: you Ubuntu's pastebin
[00:02] <yigal> bigboy69: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[00:02] <shibboleth> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[00:02] <llldino> I know as well that Power Manager supports battery info for peripherals, maybe you have the wrong icon in your panel?
[00:02] <yigal> bigboy69: or github or what ever you're comfortable using
[00:03] <bigboy69> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14499976/
[00:05] <yigal> bigboy69: interesting so it's degraded to ~95% of it's optimal amount, which is all that is being reported
[00:05] <GeekSquid> bigboy69: my first step in fixing problems, usually, is to search the model of the laptop on ubuntuforums.com to see if others have experienced the same problems and if there might be a fix
[00:06] <yigal> bigboy69: this seems highly suspicious 19   time to empty:       46.2 hours
[00:07] <sbrtn> hello
[00:08] <jawa_> hi
[00:08] <sbrtn> can someone please comment on whether or not the following would be a hassle, or if its "totally doable"
[00:08] <Guest3109> any games like starcraft/warcraft in ubuntu?
[00:09] <sbrtn> making or taking a live USB distro, and booting up a working laptop, say, a windows laptop... then sharing that machines HD over SAMBA or something, to othe rmachines. Preferably R/W
[00:09] <bigboy69> I have done a thorough (I think) search online for a solution
[00:09] <bigboy69> but can't seem to find one
[00:09] <yigal> bigboy69: do you see anything when you query the logs: sudo journalctl | grep -i acpi ?
[00:10] <bigboy69> yes I do
[00:10] <bigboy69> shall I pastbin it?
[00:10] <GeekSquid> sbrtn: that is totally doable, boot from live, install samba, create user that matches network, share files from new user
[00:10] <yigal> bigboy69: yes, if you do
[00:10] <bigboy69> it's really long btw
[00:11] <yigal> bigboy69: well that's the goodness of pastebin :)
[00:12] <shibboleth> Are there even server isos for 16.04?
[00:12] <sbrtn> GeekSquid: what about my read+write request? does that complicate things? Keep in mind: windowsXP or win7 machine, originally
[00:12] <yigal> shibboleth: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-server/daily/current/
[00:12] <GeekSquid> shibboleth: 04 means April
[00:13] <bigboy69> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14500033/
[00:13] <yigal> shibboleth: so while they exist you likely shouldn't use them :)
[00:14] <yigal> bigboy69: most of the logs appear to be addressing the kernel state when it's going into or waking up from suspension
[00:14] <shibboleth> hmmm
[00:15] <GeekSquid> sbrtn: if you create the new user and chown -R newuser:newuser /media/whatevertheshareis you will make it writable, read man mount for how to make it writable
[00:15] <sbrtn> GeekSquid: ok merci
[00:16] <user___> hi
[00:16] <bigboy69> a detail I forgot: the harddisk keep rapidly spinning up and down extremely frequently unless I issue: sudo hdparm -B 254 /dev/sda
[00:16] <user___> quit
[00:17] <yigal> bigboy69: just so we can check other services that are also affected, as this is most likely an acpi issue, what happens when you issue 'systemctl status thermald.service'
[00:18] <yigal> bigboy69: interesting, about the hd
[00:18] <bigboy69> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14500070/
[00:19] <anabain> how can I set, via qdbus (or whatever), the title of the dolphin window to the current path dolphin is at? I want to substitute the last dir name, which is what is shown by default, for the full path to that same dir. something like that but for dolphin instead of konsole: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27004924/how-can-i-automatically-set-the-window-title-in-konsole-kde-to-be-my-pwd-stri
[00:19] <yigal> bigboy69: ok, no luck there, I mean everything looks thermally good at this time
[00:19] <bigboy69> I think it may be connected to to the battery issue because as I understand it the clicking is from the HD trying to save power
[00:21] <anabain> in fact, any method that makes it possible to get the pwd for dolphin from the CLI would be OK... Any ideas?
[00:21] <yigal> bigboy69: better power management than a drive about to die :)
[00:22] <bigboy69> well, I wouldn't be overly disappointed as the laptop is still under warranty :D
[00:22] <bigboy69> although I'm pretty sure it's fine
[00:23] <yigal> bigboy69: are you using anything like cpufreq to set the power governor?
[00:23] <bigboy69> nope
[00:23] <yigal> cool, just checking as you're familiar hdparm
[00:23] <bigboy69> everything is as a fresh install would be except i installed sensors, iotop and issued the hdparm comman
[00:25] <yigal> bigboy69: have you used powertop for the laptop yet, that's one suggestion I would have if you haven't yet
[00:25] <bigboy69> no I haven't
[00:26] <bigboy69> the power management and battery life is fine
[00:26] <bigboy69> it's just this display/detection issue
[00:26] <bigboy69> in fact it's possible better than on windows
[00:26] <yigal> bigboy69: what gpu is it using?
[00:27] <bigboy69> intel integrated gpu
[00:27] <bigboy69> not sure which model
[00:27] <yigal> bigboy69: ok so from that perspective things should likely work well enough
[00:28] <yigal> bigboy69: however, there are some integrated intel gpus that have always had issues, so it's not impossible that at least for the brightness we should look at the driver to see if everything is good there
[00:29] <bigboy69> I am not using the intel proprietory driver atm
[00:29] <yigal> bigboy69: ok so it's a HD Graphics 4400
[00:30] <HackerII> prolly a 960
[00:30] <bigboy69> not sure
[00:30] <HackerII> lspci
[00:31] <bigboy69> ofc
[00:31] <bigboy69> soz
[00:31] <yigal> bigboy69: come on brotha :)
[00:32] <yigal> bigboy69: and if it is check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2214983 for the brightness issue, I suspect this will fix it
[00:32] <bigboy69> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/14500151/
[00:33] <bigboy69> it doesn't say there
[00:33] <yigal> right, not detailed enough
[00:34] <ADIGA> hi to all
[00:34] <yigal> bigboy69: but if we go by https://www.asus.com/us/2-in-1-PCs/ASUS_Transformer_Book_Flip_TP300LA/specifications/ I suspect it's the 4400
[00:36] <bigboy69> that's not it, I have an i7 5500U
[00:36] <bigboy69> but I'm looking
[00:36] <HackerII> sudo lshw -c video
[00:38] <bigboy69> doesn't sya there
[00:38] <yigal> interesting it might actually be the next generation the 5500
[00:38] <bigboy69> found it
[00:38] <bigboy69> http://www.notebookcheck.net/Asus-Transformer-Book-Flip-TP300LA-DW176H.143280.0.html
[00:38] <bigboy69> looks like it's got HD 5500
[00:39] <yigal> bigboy69: yes, indeed, I must agree
[00:39] <HackerII> asus makes a good lappy, i have one
[00:42] <bigboy69> I agree, the laptop is cool and it works well for the most part
[00:42] <bigboy69> but it's just this issue
[00:43] <yigal> bigboy69: not sure if it's absolutely necessary but have you followed similar instructions as the one's given http://askubuntu.com/questions/541525/upgraded-to-14-10-brightness-control-quit-working-intel-hd-4400 ?
[00:43] <yigal> bigboy69: I suspect they will likely work for this gen. as well
[00:44] <yigal> bigboy69: Option      "Backlight"  "intel_backlight"
[00:44] <bigboy69> I have done that and I should be able to revert the changes if necessary
[00:44] <bigboy69> But will this have an effect on the power management
[00:44] <bigboy69> ?
[00:44] <yigal> bigboy69: no
[00:45] <yigal> bigboy69: it's for X, the graphics display
[00:45] <bigboy69> it's really odd because the system can clearly detect the charger connected
[00:46] <yigal> bigboy69: I think it's all likely coming from the same issue, however I think you will need to attack it piecemeal
[00:46] <yigal> bigboy69: one step at a time, let's get the brightness to work properly
[00:47] <bigboy69> ok, I need to restart for that
[00:47] <bigboy69> so brb
[00:47] <adn_> jo, hace cuanto no uso un IRC :P
[00:48] <GeekSquid> !es
[00:48] <yigal> bigboy69: even though you aren't here, you don't need to restart the laptop the restart X, just 'systemctl restart lightdm.service' :)
[00:49] <bigboy69> so it didn't work
[00:50] <bigboy69> unfortunately
[00:56] <JCT500THz> Is there any way to set the Super-Key to open the Whisker menu in Xubuntu?
[00:56] <JCT500THz> It originally works in Ubuntu to open the menu-thingie, I know that, but not Xubuntu.
[00:56] <JCT500THz> On my PC, it's known as the Winkey.
[00:57] <JCT500THz> I'm just wondering if there's any way to set it to open the Whisker menu I have on my panel.
[00:57] <bigboy69> menu->setting->keyboard
[00:58] <bigboy69> under application short cuts
[00:58] <JCT500THz> Yeah... and then...
[00:58] <bigboy69> xfce-popup-whisker-menu change the key to winkey
[00:58] <JCT500THz> Cool!
[00:58] <JCT500THz> Thanks for your help! It worked! :D
[00:59] <bigboy69> no worries m8
[00:59] <JCT500THz> ^_^
[01:21] <yigal> bigboy69: I'm sorry to hear, I just got an update on a job interview I had, did better than I thought, and I had to call a few friends
[01:23] <bigboy69> yogal: no worries m8
[01:23] <FXpr0> I need a light but secured version of ubuntu.  any ideas?
[01:23] <bigboy69> did you get the job haha
[01:23] <FXpr0> lubuntu? xbuntu??
[01:24] <daftykins> lubuntu is the lightest, there's no difference in security.
[01:24] <yigal> bigboy69: yes, it seems potentially multiple offers, I don't think I've ever been in this position, anyways I'm sorry that it didn't work
[01:25] <daftykins> lets keep the support talk in here and exciting job offers can go to #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[01:26] <yigal> daftykins: ty, agreed
[01:26] <whiteghost> peppermint good too
[01:26] <bigboy69> soz
[01:30] <PrincessPeach> Hello there. What version of Ubuntu should I install today if I want as few problems as possible with upgrading when 16.04 LTS comes out? 14.04 LTS, 15.04, or 15.10? Thanks.
[01:32] <Bashing-om> PrincessPeach: I would vote for 15.10 due to systemd as the initiate system .
[01:32] <PrincessPeach> Bashing-om: I'll write that down, thanks. Hopefully some more people can come with opinions.
[01:34] <K1rk> PrincessPeach, typically the upgrade process is sequential.  It always was in the past.
[01:34] <daftykins> i'd say that rushing is a mistake
[01:34] <daftykins> do you really NEED an install today if 16.04 is the intention?
[01:34] <K1rk> PrincessPeach, so running the newest version possible would be the best choice based on previous stuff.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[01:35] <PrincessPeach> K1rk: 15.10 then?
[01:35] <K1rk> PrincessPeach, yeah that would be the best case I think.
[01:35] <PrincessPeach> daftykins: Three more months of Windows 10? Nightmare.
[01:35] <K1rk> PrincessPeach, in general I don't like distro upgrades, I usually redo the install lol
[01:36] <K1rk> But it's not for a very rational reason it just bothers my ocd
[01:36] <PrincessPeach> K1rk: Is there a timer that counts down the days till the 16.04 LTS release? I suck at head math.
[01:36] <daftykins> PrincessPeach: sounds like a very dramatic opinion. are you even aware of whether it'll be easy to put ubuntu on this system? what is it?
[01:37] <daftykins> it's out in April... that's as much as you need know
[01:37] <PrincessPeach> daftykins: This is a PC that I built with carefully selected parts about two years ago.
[01:37] <daftykins> i'd agree upgrades are a mess
[01:37] <PrincessPeach> daftykins: Do you mind telling me why they are a mess?
[01:38] <daftykins> i'm a regular volunteer in this support channel, i see all sorts.
[01:38] <PrincessPeach> daftykins: Share if you can. That's the information I'm really after. It could help me make a better decision.
[01:38] <daftykins> if you insist on installing a prior version soon, just be sure to make a separate /home partition so you can clean install when the time comes
[01:38] <daftykins> no, i don't see that there's any specifics i need to share to reinforce my opinion
[01:39] <PrincessPeach> Eh, okay. That's pretty weird.
[01:39] <daftykins> were it not for being off topic i'd be more inclined to hear what is so wrong with 10
[01:39] <daftykins> no, it's not really - you're trying to get me to go to lengths as to why you should accept what's been suggested
[01:40] <PrincessPeach> If you can't help, that's fine. Just don't pretend that you can.  Kinda the same name. Haha.
[01:43] <daftykins> so like i said, keep a separate /home - then just clean install when the time comes
[01:43] <PrincessPeach> I'll probably do that, yes.
[01:47] <hal14450> hmm i've been using computers since ~1980 and although sometimes some upgrades can be problematic i wouldn't classify them as a mistake
[01:48] <daftykins> makes more sense to avoid any potential pitfalls when the option is available
[01:49] <RNeville> guys, what is a good circuit simulation program (i.e., pspice) that will run under linux?
[01:49] <bigboy69> SPICE is the same program at it's
[01:49] <bigboy69> core
[01:49] <bigboy69> so it doesn't really matter, the only difference is the wrapper
[01:50] <hal14450> i'll grant you that upgrading straight away isn't what i normally do. having a separate /home partition is always a good idea
[01:50] <daftykins> mmhmm
[01:51] <bigboy69> ngspice runs on ubuntu
[01:51] <RNeville> bigboy69, I don't see spice in the Ubuntu software Center ?
[01:52] <hal14450> RNeville, try using synaptic
[01:52] <bigboy69> gspiceUI
[01:52] <bigboy69> is available on the software centre
[01:52] <bigboy69> make sure you tick in the options to install ngspice as well before you click install
[02:09] <tret> does the ffmpeg hack affect chromium? if so you must update chromium too
[02:10] <tret> chromium has it's own ffmpeg lib
[02:11] <tret> i think that chromium isn't using the part that allows the hack
[02:11] <tret> we should ask someone who knows
[02:13]  * beepie beeps
[02:22] <RNeville> could someone tell me what this command basically, does: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-generic-lts-vivid
[02:22] <xangua> RNeville: it installs vivid kernel
[02:23] <RNeville> sorry, a newbie here, what basically is vivid kernel
[02:23] <xangua> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack RNeville
[02:24] <xangua> Then why do you want to do that?
[02:24] <RNeville> I can't use the exact terminolgy here but, I encrypted my boot harddrive, and now it seem I run out of space on my boot partition once I've updated a couple of times
[02:25] <RNeville> someone help me in the past, and I'm looking through log files and this command was one of the commands I used to solve my problem last time
[02:26] <SHravan> how can I brows Internet text mode on ubuntu
[02:28] <Bashing-om> RNeville: IRT kernel/disk space ; What results ' sudo apt-get auto remove ' ?
[02:30] <ChibaPet> SHravan: w3m, lynx, Emacs
[02:31] <RNeville> working on it Bashing-om
[02:32] <RNeville> can someone bot me instruction for pastebinit ?
[02:33] <Bashing-om> !pastbinit | RNeville
[02:33] <SchrodingersScat> !msgthebot | RNeville !pastebinit
[02:33] <Bashing-om> !paste | RNeville
[02:33] <SchrodingersScat> I argue his problem is really bot-usage.
[02:35] <adrian_1908> hello. I'm interested in watching TV on linux with my DVB-C tuner. The hardware is supported in the kernel, so I'm just looking for some tips on what lightweight tools there are to scan for channels. Anyone here knowledgeable or maybe know a good IRC channel for that?
[02:35] <adrian_1908> I don't trust Wikis too much, because they're often collections of outdated information.
[02:37] <fibes> ever use vlc to watch movies/videos?
[02:37] <fibes> it can also do tv tuning
[02:38] <fibes> using w_scan
[02:38] <RNeville> Bashing-om, when I run sudo apt-get auto remove I get the error message "Invalid operation auto"
[02:38] <Bashing-om> RNeville: "sudo apt-get auto remove" autoremove as one word .
[02:39] <adrian_1908> fibes: I'm using mpv and would like to stick to that, but thanks for the suggestion! I only need an extra tool to scan for channels. I just discovered the #linuxtv channel though, so I think I'll ask there since it's more topical.
[02:39] <RNeville> sorry, Bashing-om
[02:39] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Sorry bout me typo .. getting the cat out of my lap now ,
[02:40] <fibes> w_scan
[02:40] <fibes> w_scan is a small command line utility used to perform frequency scans for DVB and ATSC transmissions.
[02:41] <al2o3-cr> yeah w_scan seconded
[02:42] <RNeville> sorry, Bashing-om , ran the command "sudo apt-get autoremove" without pastebinit
[02:42] <adrian_1908> fibes: oh, ok. I misunderstood. I tought that was part of VLC.
[02:43] <Bashing-om> RNeville: And ? I t removed old kernels and you now have disk space back ? 'df -h ' tells the tale .
[02:45] <RNeville> Bashing-om http://paste.ubuntu.com/14501036/
[02:45] <RNeville> looks good to me, but again, I'm obviously a newbie !
[02:45] <erwfhjsgh>
[02:46] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Yeah .. mighty small /boot .. you will have to keep an eye on it .. and make sure you have room for a new kernel when an update becomes availabale .
[02:47] <RNeville> Bashing-om, can I now run : "sudo apt-get update" ; "sudo apt-get install" ?
[02:47] <daftykins> install isn't a command on its' own
[02:48] <RNeville> k daftykins
[02:48] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Yeah .. you have room now for ONE and only one added kernel .
[02:49] <fibes> yea it needs to know apt-get instal (what)
[02:49] <RNeville> could I run something like gparted and expand my boot partition ?
[02:49] <RNeville> k fibes
[02:49] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Not a thing for the inexperienced to attempt ... but short answer is YES .
[02:49] <RNeville> I'll google full command to update kernel
[02:50] <daftykins> better would be to ignore that /boot and put it on your / - but you use LVM
[02:50] <RNeville> Well, I won't try it then Bashing-om
[02:50] <RNeville> I am in over my head, now :)
[02:50] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Best is to keep an eye on /boot .. and keep it trimmed down .
[02:50] <sam_yan> how did lightdm start the gnome-session? where is the main files?
[02:50] <virgosun> hi all
[02:51] <virgosun> something wrong with asusx451ca uefi
[02:51] <virgosun> can anyone help
[02:51] <sruli> hi, i have a vpn kill switch script with worked fine in 14.04, i use to to block all traffic on host and VM when vpn disconnects, i now changed to 15.10 and it only blocks host traffic not VM, i am not sure if its because i changed from virtualbox to KVM or if its 14.04 > 15.10 related this is my iptables rules for kill switch paste.ubuntu.com/14501070
[02:52] <Bashing-om> sam_yan: See : /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf .
[02:52] <WeiJunLi> how can I see how long a page takes to load, there is any standard command already?
[02:53] <fibes> like from a web server?
[02:53] <sam_yan> Bashing-om: In /etc/lightdm, there is only users.conf
[02:53] <ChibaPet> WeiJunLi: curl perhaps, and time
[02:53] <sruli> can anyone help me with my iptables issue?
[02:53] <daftykins> sruli: bear in mind ##networking also
[02:53] <Bashing-om> sruli: 14.04 was upstart and 15.10 is systemd for the initiate system ; See : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemdForUpstartUsers .
[02:54] <sruli> Bashing-om: the script does not auto start, so its not a upstart isse
[02:54] <sruli> any other ideas?
[02:55] <daftykins> i'd bet your interface name doesn't match
[02:56] <sruli> daftykins: i beleive it does, paste.ubuntu.com/14501070
[02:56] <daftykins> that's the same paste.
[02:56] <daftykins> nevermind
[02:56] <RNeville> Bashing-om, does this look correct in order to upgrade my machine : "sudo apt-get update"; "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[02:57] <daftykins> those commands are fine
[02:57] <sruli> daftykins: yes, that last line gets the correct interface name
[02:57] <RNeville> thx daftykins
[02:57] <sruli> daftykins: 1 min i'll add a rule manually to test
[02:57] <Bashing-om> RNeville: Yeah, that will do it .. 'dist-upgrade' invokes apt's smart mode to deal with dependencies and install new software (kernel) .
[02:58] <virgosun>  hi all
[02:58] <virgosun>  something wrong with asusx451ca uefi
[02:58] <virgosun>  can anyone help
[02:58] <Bashing-om> sam_yan: Also there is : /usr/share/xsessions/ubuntu.desktop to control lightdm startup .
[02:59] <sam_yan> Bashing-om: but how lightdm start the gnome-session ?
[02:59] <daftykins> virgosun: what are you trying to do?
[03:00] <RNeville> thx, again, Bashing-om
[03:01] <virgosun> daftykins , last night I installed this http://xsolutions.free.fr/home/netbookXXX/inetbook/iportable-snow-osx86-usb_assets/iPortable%20Snow%20ReadMe.pdf
[03:01] <Bashing-om> sam_yan: I "thought" that was in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf ?? Might see also what is in /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/ directory .
[03:01] <sam_yan> Bashing-om: Ok I will
[03:02] <virgosun> daftykins: then all uefi entry get deleted
[03:02] <daftykins> virgosun: some kind of OS X install method? that's not ubuntu related then.
[03:02] <zykotick9> RNeville: the "newschool" version could be "sudo apt update" and "sudo apt upgrade"... but apt-get works fine ;)
[03:02] <virgosun> along side my ubuntu 16.04 gnome 3.18
[03:02] <virgosun> daftykin:
[03:02] <daftykins> 16.04 is not even final yet.
[03:03] <sruli> daftykins: i added the rule manually with correct interface name no change, when vpn disconnects, on host it blocks, on VM's it works here is how i added the rule manually, also the output of iptables -L paste.ubuntu.com/14501161
[03:03] <Mr_Cyclops> Xenial is in Alpha stage, final release in April
[03:03] <virgosun> yah my base is 15.10 the I do dist-upgrade
[03:03] <RNeville> thx zykotick9
[03:03] <virgosun> then all uefi gone
[03:03] <daftykins> virgosun: you probably have to recreate an entry with efibootmgr then, to get one back - if nothing boots right now. i can't help with that though as i've never used it
[03:03] <RNeville> I'll write this down zykotick9
[03:03] <virgosun> I have tried efibootmgr from live usb
[03:04] <daftykins> then you must not know how to use it either :)
[03:04] <sruli> daftykins: any ideas?
[03:04] <virgosun> after power on, all disappear
[03:05] <daftykins> sruli: no
[03:05] <virgosun> I use also windows bcdedit, same
[03:05] <daftykins> bcdedit is not wise
[03:05] <virgosun> power off, lost all
[03:05] <daftykins> that doesn't make any sense.
[03:06] <daftykins> i'm sure efibootmgr is the answer, so maybe just dig around a bit more online to work out how to use it effectively
[03:06] <virgosun> now only 1 entry in uefi, which is cdrom
[03:07] <virgosun> I use rEFInd http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/installing.html#linux
[03:07] <virgosun> efibootmgr -c -l \\EFI\\refind\\refind_x64.efi -L rEFInd
[03:08] <virgosun> it show entry created. but again after reboot, all gone
[03:09] <virgosun> or some thig wrong with GPT table
[03:09] <virgosun> all partition still there, gdisk said /dev/sda ok
[03:10] <CinnamonRickRoll> anybody know an alternative to xbacklight? or really anyway to get brightness controls working? (with nvidia gpu)
[03:12] <whiteghost> xrander and  something else cant remember off my head
[03:13] <daftykins> the graphics hardware doesn't really influence the backlight usage, the type of backlight does... what if any, boot parameters have you tried so far?
[03:13] <daftykins> CinnamonRickRoll: ^
[03:13] <daftykins> a common choice is acpi_backlight=vendor
[03:13] <CinnamonRickRoll> i've tried no boot parametres
[03:14] <ChibaPet> CinnamonRickRoll: Worst case, you can whip up a shell script that manipulates /sys for you.
[03:14] <Finetundra> If I wanted to install gnome from the terminal, what would the package name be?
[03:14] <ChibaPet> CinnamonRickRoll: What's wrong with xbacklight?
[03:14] <CinnamonRickRoll> nothing, i've used xbacklight on manjaro and I quite like it
[03:14] <CinnamonRickRoll> it just doesn't work
[03:14] <CinnamonRickRoll> i'm p sure its a known bug
[03:14] <ChibaPet> Hm. I'd grovel through sys then.
[03:14] <ChibaPet> Let me see if I have an example.
[03:14] <CinnamonRickRoll> I found a gui controller in the software centre
[03:15] <CinnamonRickRoll> and I'm gunna try that out, since I don't r know how to do much with terminal (yet)
[03:15] <ChibaPet> Hm, I don't see what I whipped up, but find the backlight controls in /sys and you can do something reasonable.
[03:15] <ChibaPet> ah
[03:15] <CinnamonRickRoll> yep, the gui works for now, but ideally I'd like to be able to bind it to hotkeys
[03:15] <CinnamonRickRoll> like normal brightness adjustment
[03:16] <ChibaPet> CinnamonRickRoll: Make it a project to learn to do it in a shell script. You'll be able to bind that.
[03:16] <daftykins> CinnamonRickRoll: if this is a laptop the standard function keys could likely be made to work depending on what the machine is
[03:16] <CinnamonRickRoll> its a mac book 7,1
[03:16] <daftykins> that's mid 2010 core2duo no?
[03:17] <CinnamonRickRoll> I think so, theres a page on the arch linux wiki which has all the specs, I can check if you'd like
[03:17] <daftykins> no that'll be of no use
[03:17] <CinnamonRickRoll> ok
[03:17] <daftykins> nevermind then, being a mac probably invalidates all my ideas
[03:18] <Bashing-om> !gnome | Finetundra
[03:18] <CinnamonRickRoll> yep, I like OSX, but mac hardware is a pain in the ass
[03:19] <fibes> http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/att-pursues-open-source-canonicals-ubuntu/2016-01-14
[03:21] <RNeville> trying to understand how to use ubottu Bot so I can directly ask ubottu Bot question like "how to use pastebinit" in instruction would be great
[03:21] <ChibaPet> RNeville: /query ubottu
[03:21] <ChibaPet> and talk to it
[03:21] <zykotick9> RNeville: "/msg ubottu foo" then when your already chatting with ubottu, just foo
[03:23] <virgosun> daftykins: i've taled to asus, i'll take it to asus. how do i use smb client to trnsfer my data to windows
[03:24] <daftykins> !samba
[03:24] <RNeville> okay thx zykotick9 and ChibaPet ; I think I'm being to understand
[03:24] <daftykins> virgosun: just boot a desktop session and mount the target using nautilus, then copy and paste
[03:24] <daftykins> no need for CLI usage of smbclient
[03:24] <virgosun> i do boot to live usb and install samba
[03:25] <daftykins> what's the other host running?
[03:25] <daftykins> i'd at least try to load defaults in the EFI before giving up
[03:25] <virgosun> also ubuntu 15.10
[03:26] <virgosun> daftykins: and dual boot win 10
[03:26] <daftykins> hmm. sharing a folder either from 10 or ubuntu then, you could browse to it from this asus
[03:27] <virgosun> no luck, take it to asus, I thank they'll wipe out everything
[03:27] <daftykins> i don't think you even tried that
[03:27] <daftykins> there's 0 reason to install samba on the asus anyway.
[03:28] <ChibaPet> Now, if there were -1 reason, that'd be different.
[03:28] <BradenBraden> morning all
[03:28] <virgosun> dafykins: how do I share folder in ubuntu
[03:29] <CinnamonRickRoll> which shell does ubuntu use?
[03:29] <virgosun> ah. it is downloading samba
[03:29] <sam_yan> Bashing-om: I can not find anything related with gnome-session under lightdm
[03:30] <daftykins> CinnamonRickRoll: BASH
[03:31] <CinnamonRickRoll> thanks, I thought so, just wanted to be sure
[03:31] <BradenBraden> so attempting to do a dist upgrade from Ubuntu GNOME 15.10 to Ubuntu Xenial was a great success (sarcasm)
[03:31] <BradenBraden> borked my entire setup
[03:31] <BradenBraden> lol
[03:33] <virgosun> daftykins: nautilus hang at install additional software libpam-smbpass
[03:34] <daftykins> if you're trying to share from the asus, then that's a bad approach
[03:34] <virgosun> it ask for restart
[03:34] <daftykins> as mentioned, make the asus the client
[03:34] <virgosun> I share from working host
[03:35] <virgosun> how to make asus the client, brow network, nothing
[03:35] <daftykins> ok so then nautilus just needed to browse to it, possibly no packages need installing for that one
[03:35] <RNeville> installed the program "ngspice" using the Ubuntu Software Center
[03:35] <daftykins> no you directly browse to smb://IP/share
[03:35] <RNeville> error message said error in installing ngspice but Ubuntu Software Center now says it is installed
[03:35] <CinnamonRickRoll> anybody familiar with vi?
[03:36] <virgosun> ok thanks I'try after restart
[03:36] <RNeville> yet, I can't seem to run ngspice
[03:36] <daftykins> CinnamonRickRoll: use nano if you can't drive it
[03:36] <dasboot> this is for all Christians, http://bit.ly/1TZ4P7e good loves you all.
[03:36] <daftykins> nice typo
[03:37] <RNeville> It looks like I've got to run it at the command line - thought it would have gui
[03:37] <daftykins> dasboot: unless you have an ubuntu support question, please leave.
[03:37] <daftykins> RNeville: i think someone told you a GUI package name
[03:37] <CinnamonRickRoll> thanks dafty
[03:39] <BradenBraden> daftykins, whats wrong? its nice to know that "good" loves us all xD
[03:39] <arthropododo> just a test message to check if this client works
[03:40] <virgosun> It is able to share, asus still not see the shared
[03:41] <innitrichie> is there a safe tool to migrate an ubuntu desktop to windows 10 keeping all browser settings, downloads, pictures emails, etc. in place?
[03:41] <xangua> innitrichie: backup
[03:42] <daftykins> !test | arthropododo please don't use this channel in future
[03:42] <daftykins> wow they removed the reference to #test
[03:42] <virgosun> ah it sees now
[03:42] <cfhowlett> not to be confused with !testing ...
[03:42] <virgosun> permission denied
[03:43] <innitrichie> yeah i guess i'll have to do that
[03:43] <arthropododo> oh sorry, thanks
[03:43] <innitrichie> i was hoping for a lazyboy method to suck all the data into the right places
[03:44] <BradenBraden> daftykins, i might need your help to refresh my memory. I borked my previous installation so downloaded ubuntu xenial pre-build (need the new kernel). I have wifi up and running easily and I have just installed the NVidia and Intel drivers through the Additional Drivers utility like we did before. Was there anything else that I had to do?
[03:44] <daftykins> innitrichie: that's about as far fetched as the recent news reports claiming Apple were developing a way to convert to android...
[03:44] <virgosun> daftykins: I share as allow other to create
[03:45] <cfhowlett> BradenBraden, xenial?  #ubuntu+1 for support
[03:45] <daftykins> BradenBraden: i don't remember this situation at all
[03:45] <virgosun> but the asus says permission dinied
[03:45] <daftykins> virgosun: that's not english to me
[03:45] <BradenBraden> daftykins, lol ok.
[03:45] <daftykins> but yeah, we don't help with pre-release versions
[03:46] <BradenBraden> its not an issue with pre-release. its just that optimus stuff again
[03:46] <daftykins> yeah but you're using something that isn't out, which means it *is* support for pre-release
[03:46] <BradenBraden> hmm ok
[03:47] <daftykins> as long as it pulled in nvidia-prime you might be ok
[03:47] <daftykins> but i haven't helped anyone with 16.04 since... it's not out :D
[03:47] <virgosun> daftykins: sorry for my english.   from the asus 'password requied for share'
[03:47] <BradenBraden> hehe
[03:47] <daftykins> virgosun: i have no idea what you've set on the share on the other system you hope to copy to
[03:48] <daftykins> i don't tend to share by this method, so i don't know what to say
[03:48] <virgosun> daftykins: i set "guess access"
[03:49] <virgosun> "allow other to delete and create file"
[03:49] <daftykins> guest should come up fine then
[03:50] <virgosun> "failed to mount: permission denied"
[03:51] <daftykins> that's only a result, i can't see what's done to get there
[03:51] <virgosun> do i have to install something on the client
[03:51] <acces> Hello world
[03:54] <daftykins> virgosun: maybe smbfs, if you booted the live session again
[03:56] <virgosun> it said cifs-utils would replace the obsolated smbfs
[03:58] <theweirdn8> so i have a general question about devving for ubuntu
[03:58] <theweirdn8> if im on Arch Linux Distro, if i compile something there
[03:58] <theweirdn8> does it work on ubuntu?
[03:58] <theweirdn8> or do i need ubuntu for ubuntu dev?
[03:58] <daftykins> !channels
[03:59] <daftykins> best to look for a dev channel or research online
[04:01] <bob2017> k1rk? :)
[04:01] <virgosun> i am going to boot to win 10  at host
[04:02] <virgosun> thanks anyway daftykins
[04:03] <whiteghost> ubuntu has bug reported in samba but its medium to fix
[04:03] <cfhowlett> OK ... and?
[04:04] <adrian_1908> fibes: I think it was you who recommended w_scan. I just wanted to report back that it worked flawlessly for me, so keep recommending that!
[04:04] <whiteghost> took me 2 weeks to find way to get it to work
[04:04] <andywork> theweirdn8: no you can keep your dev in arch
[04:05] <andywork> theweirdn8: but ubuntu isn't so bad is it?
[04:08] <andywork> ugh, he left
[04:11] <K1rk> bob2017,
[04:12] <bob2017> hey :)
[04:12] <K1rk> Sup
[04:12] <bob2017> so… what i did was, I reinstalled from scratch, then I chroot’ed in from the livecd, deleted nouveau and rebooted
[04:12] <K1rk> Any progress?
[04:13] <bob2017> *then* it managed to not get stuck on the nvidia card.  on every boot, it would get the screen where it says it can’t configure and its going to low graphics.  but, as soon as that window disappeared, i would get the x cursor, and it would freeze again.  i tried chrooting in again to install fglrx and build an xorg.conf, and it went back to freezing right after the bios screen
[04:13] <bob2017> oh - and *once* i was able to get in, because there was a disk error and i booted into emergency.
[04:14] <daftykins> nouveau never needs deleting
[04:18] <bob2017> k1rk: what do you think?
[04:19] <BradenBraden> what is nouveau anyway?
[04:19] <daftykins> open source grpahics driver for nvidia
[04:19] <daftykins> graphics too
[04:20] <BradenBraden> ah ok
[04:21] <whiteghost> anyone here ever get zoneminder to work properly
[04:24] <gateshwill> whiteghost: does anything ever work properly with linux? :)
[04:25] <daftykins> sure it does, you users just ask too much ^_^
[04:25] <whiteghost> lol ya not always
[04:28] <BradenBraden> seems getting things to work properly with your hardware is the biggest issue. get that sorted and mostly everything else is great
[04:29] <BradenBraden> except for wine. i've only managed to open notepad in wine. lol
[04:29] <daftykins> using wine is a mistake
[04:29] <daftykins> buying the right system to begin with is the trick
[04:30] <BradenBraden> one should have the freedom to use whatever hardware they want, bleeding edge or not.
[04:30] <whiteghost> wine ya  something more to learn
[04:30] <daftykins> BradenBraden: err, tell that to the kernel devs
[04:31] <daftykins> it's an impossibility
[04:31] <BradenBraden> daftykins, how does windows get it right?
[04:31] <whiteghost> lol
[04:32] <daftykins> i think for Windows, the manufacturers talk... but Linux is the guy everyone forgets to call
[04:32] <BradenBraden> shame
[04:33] <whiteghost> windows pays them to make sure it works better on windows
[04:33] <daftykins> doesn't make business sense to cater for the minority.
[04:33] <daftykins> whiteghost: that's a really silly statement
[04:33] <BradenBraden> *nix is growing, especially with things like SteamOS coming along
[04:34] <whiteghost> my 2 cents
[04:34] <ChibaPet> Hey, is there an Ubuntu equivalent to #debian-next, or a mailing list that serves the same purpose?
[04:34] <daftykins> they need their products to work with Windows else they don't have a customer :P
[04:34] <daftykins> anyway this is off topic for this channel :>
[04:34] <daftykins> ChibaPet: what's #debian-next ...
[04:35] <ChibaPet> daftykins: It's the place to go to discuss upcoming versions, and sometimes get support for them.
[04:35] <BradenBraden> no harm in general chit chat if there is nothing going on eh?
[04:35] <daftykins> ChibaPet: #ubuntu+1
[04:35] <ChibaPet> Freenode?
[04:35] <daftykins> BradenBraden: yes there is, go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:35] <daftykins> ChibaPet: yeah...
[04:35] <ChibaPet> ty
[04:36] <BradenBraden> ag does one really have to switch channels just to talk about their massive pimple they just popped?
[04:36] <cfhowlett> ewwww ....
[04:36] <xangua> ChibaPet: yes, please
[04:36] <daftykins> BradenBraden: yes.
[04:36] <BradenBraden> lol fine!
[04:36] <daftykins> BradenBraden: them's the rules and channel policy, if you fight it you just become an ass to be quite honest
[04:37] <ChibaPet> xangua: I don't understand...?
[04:37] <BradenBraden> im not one to be an ass :3
[04:37] <cfhowlett> good.  so it's agreed that we are now returning to the channel topic: ubuntu support.
[04:38] <whiteghost> ok bye getting to serious now
[04:38] <daftykins> excellent.
[04:38] <BradenBraden> oh my soul I swear, these graphics issues are gonna drive me up the wall
[04:39] <wahyu> hi guys
[04:41] <welovfree> Hello guys
[04:42] <welovfree> where can find all the things I installed using the 'apt-get' command?
[04:42] <daftykins> why?
[04:42] <welovfree> daftykins: to get rid of some of them
[04:43] <daftykins> there's not really anything that tells you "since install, you added these"
[04:43] <daftykins> so you'll have to be a bit more specific
[04:43] <welovfree> daftykins: I don't remember all of them by names I used when I installed them
[04:44] <daftykins> right, so maybe by use
[04:44] <welovfree> daftykins: I installed some desktop environments
[04:44] <cfhowlett> welovfree, there is a command sequence to read your logs sorted by date.  everything after your initial installation would be either updates or manually selected.  sadly, I don't have the exact command handy
[04:45] <daftykins> you're being way too vague.
[04:45] <welovfree> daftykins: why vague?
[04:45] <daftykins> wow are you serious
[04:45] <daftykins> maybe "history | grep install" will help.
[04:45] <ChibaPet> welovfree: dpkg -l
[04:45] <Guest81696> Hi, i have a question regading ssh .. if some provide me  " ~$ rasp-ssh code-staging2 " then how can i connect with him
[04:46] <cfhowlett> daftykins, what ... whoa!  nice one!  I'll have to read more on this comand
[04:46] <nareshnk> Hi, i have a question regading ssh .. if some provide me  " ~$ rasp-ssh code-staging2 " then how can i connect with him
[04:47] <welovfree> daftykins: thank you that was all I needed!
[04:47] <daftykins> nareshnk: that's useless
[04:47] <nareshnk> means.. What i need from him ?
[04:47] <nareshnk> he is saying "  you should be able to ssh in to view files and database "
[04:47] <daftykins> a hostname, a port number, a username and a password.
[04:47] <nareshnk> daftykins, he is saying " you should be able to ssh in to view files and database "
[04:48] <daftykins> you didn't need to repeat that.
[04:48] <barkinelf> welovfree: dpkg -l
[04:48] <barkinelf> er
[04:48] <barkinelf> heh
[04:48] <daftykins> barkinelf: useless if you followed the users request.
[04:48] <nareshnk> ok .. so tthat's useless so i need  a hostname, a port number, a username and a password
[04:49] <bob2017> k1rk: any other ideas?  I’m about to try to install the server version, and hope that switching to desktop isn’t too bad once its running
[04:50] <daftykins> nareshnk: is there a reason you repeat everything you are told?
[04:50] <nareshnk> no just for confirmation
[04:51] <chicken_noodle_s> Hello.
[04:52] <chicken_noodle_s> hello.
[04:52] <welovfree> to uninstall I can use "sudo apt-get remove package_name" this command should do the job?
[04:53] <daftykins> yes.
[04:57] <welovfree> daftykins: thank you for your time
[04:57] <welovfree> daftykins: :)
[05:03] <BradenBraden> should one always aim to have the latest nvidia drivers installed or is there merit in going with an older version?
[05:09] <K1rk> BradenBraden, generally I try to stay cutting edge with updates, but updates can also introduce bugs.
[05:11] <K1rk> BradenBraden, I would think staying bleeding edge with nVidia drivers is most important for gamers not as much so for casual users.
[05:12] <BradenBraden> right. not so much into the gaming on *nix though. thats why I have dual-boot setup
[05:12] <K1rk> BradenBraden, in general on Linux I've had many issues with drivers fixed by updates, and I have had far less experiences with new bugs in that area, personally.
[05:13] <BradenBraden> by default, additional drivers offer me 352 but they dont seem to work properly. wondering if I should try something else instead
[05:13] <K1rk> How exactly aren't they working?
[05:13] <daftykins> there's newer and older, but it depends what's going on
[05:13] <K1rk> BradenBraden, on this machine I'm running 346.72
[05:14] <beepie> !dpkg
[05:14] <BradenBraden> when the nvidia card is selected, the login screen is just black. i have to run prime-select intel when in recovery mode to get my UI back
[05:15] <daftykins> one of my fellow volunteers says 352 does that, best to go for 346 if possible
[05:16] <BradenBraden> ok. and i just do that with apt-get purge nvidia* && apt-get install nvidia-prime nvidia-346  right?
[05:16] <K1rk> 346 been very stable for me
[05:16] <daftykins> only if -346 exists
[05:16] <daftykins> which is best to confirm before throwing commands around
[05:17] <BradenBraden> I saw commands just like that for 331
[05:17] <daftykins> yes but the package has to exist
[05:17] <BradenBraden> yes. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:17] <daftykins> i think you're missing the point :)
[05:17] <BradenBraden> oh?
[05:18] <beepie> BradenBraden, maybe you should disable kms (it's a common problem with nvidia)
[05:18] <daftykins> no, this is optimus
[05:20] <BradenBraden> is running "apt install" the same as "apt-get install" ?
[05:20] <daftykins> close enough to not matter
[05:20] <BradenBraden> if i had known, i could have saved myself 4 keystrokes for years now lol
[05:20] <daftykins> it's a recent thing.
[05:21] <BradenBraden> oh ok
[05:22] <BradenBraden> brb, gotta drop the kids off at the pool
[05:23] <daftykins> that was inappropriate
[05:34] <tuonik> hi, i encrypted my whole computer and i cant remember the passphrase (stupid me) is there any way to open it or maybe install a new operating system? thanks.
[05:34] <K1rk> tuonik, if you just want to erase everything you could just use DD to write 0's to the drive lol
[05:34] <K1rk> What did you encrypt it with?  LUKS?
[05:35] <tuonik> yes
[05:35] <tuonik> i did it a while back an i hacent used it after that
[05:36] <daftykins> so does any data matter?
[05:36] <K1rk> tuonik, I doubt you can recover it without the passphrase.  That's kind of the point.
[05:36] <tuonik> no. i would just like to use it.
[05:36] <daftykins> yeah so just wipe it and start again as K1rk said
[05:36] <K1rk> tuonik, if the data doesn't matter just do "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX" where /dev/sdX is the block device.
[05:36] <K1rk> That will write all 0's to the drive
[05:36] <K1rk> Then you can partition it again and start over:)
[05:37] <daftykins> that should've had a bs=2M on the end at least
[05:37] <daftykins> else it'd take forever
[05:37] <tuonik> well im not a wizard with the computers so how can i do that :)
[05:38] <K1rk> tuonik, boot into a live CD or something, run the command from a terminal.
[05:38] <ChibaPet> tuonik: You should be able to simply reinstall without wiping the drive first.
[05:38] <ChibaPet> Wiping the drive will serve little purpose but will take a very long time.
[05:38] <XATRIX> Hi guys, i have a trouble. As long as i see my sysctl commands, which are in /etc/sysctl.conf doesn't want to be applied on boot.
[05:38] <daftykins> yeah wiping serves no purpose here
[05:39] <XATRIX> net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1
[05:39] <XATRIX> net.ipv6.conf.default.disable_ipv6 = 1
[05:39] <tuonik> that simple... okay i will try that. thanks guys.
[05:39] <XATRIX> After the system start i see some IPv6 traffic, and interface options on
[05:39] <XATRIX> If i do sysctl -p then IPv6 gets disabled
[05:40] <tuonik> k1rk: can u tell me the command to erase the whole PC?
[05:40] <daftykins> you were told it
[05:40] <bob2017> k1rk? :)
[05:40] <ChibaPet> tuonik: You don't need to erase the whole PC, at all.
[05:40] <K1rk> Hi bob2017
[05:40] <ChibaPet> tuonik: Just run the installer again.
[05:41] <tuonik> ok. :)
[05:41] <bob2017> k1rk: i just tried ubuntu server cd - exactly the same result.  no change at all.
[05:41] <K1rk> bob2017, wow the ubuntu server cd is having graphics driver issues on your machine???
[05:41] <ChibaPet> bob2017: Can you describe your issue again?
[05:42] <bob2017> k1rk: the cd itself runs fine, but on boot the machine freezes at the same time every time.  we’ve inferred that its graphics driver, and part of it was definitely graphics driver, but we’re not 100% confident of that
[05:42] <K1rk> bob2017, have you tried nox2apic?
[05:43] <K1rk> bob2017, I am starting to think this may not be a driver issue with the graphics.
[05:43] <BradenBraden> back.
[05:43] <K1rk> bob2017, do you remember how to add kernel options to your GRUB?
[05:44] <K1rk> bob2017, this is reminding me of an issue on my ThinkPad w520 where the system would not consistently boot after install.  I fixed it by adding "nox2apic" to my kernel parameters.
[05:44] <bob2017> chibapet: I am not able to boot into either GUI or CLI, ever. livecd works fine.  One the first boot after install, I get a “low graphics mode” dialog but its never able to launch a terminal or any graphics mode.  On subsequent boots, after the bios screen, i get a black screen with a few very thing purple verticle stripes, and it always freezes there.  the machine has two video cards, an nvidia and an amd.  examination of logs
[05:44] <bob2017> can boot into mac os on the same machine) showed that it kept trying ot use the nvidia card even though all the monitors are on the amd.  in one experiment, chrooting in from livecd, i was able to remove nouveau and remake initrd.  then, it would give me the low graphics mode screen on every bood.  fbcon=map:1 will give me some text display during boot.
[05:45] <bob2017> k1rk: i’m not using grub.  its a mac os x dual boot, with rEFInd
[05:45] <K1rk> bob2017, oh no matter do you know how to add kernel parameters? :)
[05:45] <bob2017> k1rk: well we know *part* of it was video, or at least something with the nouveau driver was a symptom of something deeper, but yeah
[05:46] <bob2017> k1rk: yes, however they seem to be ignored.  i’ve tried parameters text, single, emergency, gfxpayload=text, etc.   the only one that seemed to even be noticed was fbcon=map:1
[05:46] <K1rk> bob2017, it's really a shot in the dark but I would like you to try nox2apic kernel parameter.
[05:46] <K1rk> bob2017, please reference my thread from 2012:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2044699
[05:47] <bob2017> yeah i’m googling about it… but i want to see if there are any other ideas
[05:47] <bob2017> maybe folks want to see the log?
[05:47] <ChibaPet> bob2017: Hm. Tricky having the two cards. Something to consider would be trying to tell X (through xorg.conf possibly) to use a particular card. I'm not sure how to specify that off the top of my head.
[05:47] <bob2017> k1rk: i’m not saying i won’t try it, i just want to collect a bunch of options to try together
[05:47] <K1rk> bob2017, I'm really quite shocked I didn't think about this last night because it is exactly the same problem.  I guess I had forgotten about it.
[05:48] <K1rk> bob2017, it might also be worth trying the kernel parameter "noacpi"
[05:49] <K1rk> bob2017, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Common_Kernel_Options
[05:49] <bob2017> chibapet: yes i tried that by chrooting in.  first i disabled nouveau and rebuilt initrd.  this was k1rk’s idea.  it allowed the boot to progress further and the log showed the right card was being selected. to try to get it even furhter, i chrooted in and tried switching the graphics driver and building an xorg.conf with amdinit (or whatever its called).
[05:49] <K1rk> On that list I see "noapic".  I am not sure the distinction between noapic and nox2apic.
[05:49] <bob2017> k1rk: i’m looking at that discussion and that’s describing what’s definitely a different issue
[05:49] <bob2017> that’s a blinking cursor or purple screen
[05:49] <bob2017> i don’t even get a blinking curser
[05:49] <bob2017> and the screen never manages to get purple
[05:50] <K1rk> bob2017, I thought you got to a cursor last night?
[05:50] <bob2017> k1rk: when i got a cursor, it wouldn’t even blink though
[05:50] <K1rk> bob2017, this was also 3 years ago, stuff might have changed in the boot process in that time.  In fact, since it's systemd now, I guarantee you stuff changed.
[05:50] <K1rk> Doesn't mean it's not the same problem
[05:51] <K1rk> bob2017, I had to carry my "nox2apic" fix in to Linux Mint Debian as well to keep my laptop working.
[05:51] <bob2017> k1rk: sure, but the other system there was a freeze at starting udevd.  mine always gets past that - i see it in the log.  when i’ve seen log during boot, i also see udevd go up.  but usually even though it starts, i don’t *see* it start because there’s nothing on the monitor
[05:52] <bob2017> any thoughts?  anyone?  :(
[05:53] <yetitwo> hey all
[05:53] <bob2017> isn’t there supposed to be “official support” for the server install?
[05:53] <K1rk> heh
[05:53] <yetitwo> does anyone have experience with mount.cifs troubleshooting?
[05:53] <beepie> bob2017, that sounds sudo^canonical
[05:53] <ChibaPet> bob2017: I'd hop on a mailing list and ask there. Decent chance a Canonical employee will see and answer, especially given the level of detail you're providing.
[05:54] <bob2017> i shouldn’t use the “technical answer system”? i hate asking on mailing lists…
[05:55] <bob2017> not the forum even, the mailing list?
[05:57] <daftykins> ah it's a mac, yep nope
[05:57] <bob2017> daftykins: huh?
[05:58] <bob2017> chibapet: where is this mysterious mailing list anyway?
[05:58] <daftykins> this system is a mac?
[05:58] <bob2017> beepie:  is there an efficient way of getting to them?
[05:58] <bob2017> dafty: yes.
[05:58] <bob2017> mostly.
[05:58] <daftykins> what does that mean...
[05:58] <bob2017> i guess the motherboard is still apple
[05:58] <BradenBraden> well, nvidia-346 did the same thing. only intel seems to work.
[05:58] <ChibaPet> bob2017: There's a link somewhere off of www.ubuntu.com
[05:59] <daftykins> their EFI does quirky things with hardware, if you install from DVD on some, it causes their BIOS emulation to run (i think) which behaves differently
[05:59] <bob2017> i mean its got two non-apple video cards, 24 GB of RAM, a bunch of non-apple SSD’s, an internal secondary power supply to power the second graphics card, so what’s left of the apple-ness?
[05:59] <bob2017> firmware i guess
[06:00] <daftykins> well we only know what you tell us, so now you've mentioned it's some kind of frankenmacstein - even less likely for things to be working right
[06:00] <BradenBraden> wait... it says I am using 352.. but i purged all of it and explicitly said 346.
[06:00] <daftykins> i think they removed 346 and pointed those package names to 352
[06:01] <bob2017> daftykins: i think i was pretty clear about that the whole time… anyway ubuntu should run on a mac pro 2008.  i
[06:01] <BradenBraden> well aint that just dandy
[06:01] <beepie> BradenBraden, told you 45 minutes ago to "disable kms"
[06:01] <beepie> BradenBraden, :)
[06:01] <daftykins> bob2017: maybe to whoever was around whenever this started, but you can't expect me to immediately know the entire history of your messages on here
[06:01] <BradenBraden> beepie, and where do I find this kms?
[06:01] <beepie> BradenBraden, it's a pita -- intel kms conflicts with nvidia
[06:02] <beepie> BradenBraden, it's a common issue
[06:02] <beepie> !kms
[06:02] <daftykins> beepie: you realise this setup is optimus, right?
[06:02] <beepie> dunno he said 'nvidia' so i immediately asusmed the same
[06:02] <daftykins> newp.
[06:02] <beepie> supposedly as long as intel kms is there -- i'd disable it anyways
[06:02] <daftykins> optimus is the intel+nvidia at the same time hybrid tech
[06:03] <daftykins> i think that's just going to trash more.
[06:03] <BradenBraden> daftykins, well technically its not at the same time. its one or the other with the option to switch. bumblebee is at the same time
[06:03] <daftykins> i'm talking about the hardware, not the specific software implementation you're trying to use
[06:03] <daftykins> i'm typing from an optimus laptop so i kinda know...
[06:03] <BradenBraden> right
[06:03] <BradenBraden> i believe you
[06:04] <beepie> laptops usually don't come with two gfx chips
[06:04] <BradenBraden> the new ones too
[06:04] <BradenBraden> *do
[06:04] <daftykins> beepie: this has been happening for years...
[06:04] <daftykins> please don't give advice when you're unfamiliar
[06:04] <FXpr0> whats the command to mount a usb stick please?
[06:05] <daftykins> depends on the filesystem
[06:05] <FXpr0> debian
[06:05] <daftykins> that's a distro not a filesystem for a flash drive
[06:05] <daftykins> but if you're running debian you shouldn't be in here.
[06:06] <FXpr0> oh.  fat32
[06:06] <FXpr0> ubuntu is based on debian.
[06:06] <beepie> BradenBraden, i also see soemthing about modesetting workarounds over here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA_Optimus
[06:06] <daftykins> FXpr0: yes, and debian is supported in #debian - cya
[06:06] <FXpr0> and I am about to test an ubuntu distro
[06:07] <BradenBraden> beepie, been to this page before. didnt help much last time
[06:07] <FXpr0> I need to put the thing on a stick and that requires mounting the usb stick for live test
[06:07] <BradenBraden> im just looking at how to downgrade the gfx drivers
[06:08] <daftykins> FXpr0: you don't mount a drive to put an ISO on it
[06:08] <FXpr0> ummm, I am using yumi to do it.  its not a problem in windows.
[06:09] <daftykins> use dd.
[06:09] <FXpr0> what is dd?
[06:09] <daftykins> an image writing program
[06:09] <FXpr0> the YUMI utility you can put multiple distros for testing
[06:09] <daftykins> amongst other things
[06:09] <daftykins> yes i know, i've used it from Windows
[06:10] <FXpr0> for just a single image I use rufus
[06:10] <adiga88> hi every one i am new here and i had some troubleshoot to do
[06:10] <BradenBraden> is there a way I can get Additional Drivers to give me a longer list of options?
[06:10] <daftykins> only by adding a source with more drivers
[06:11] <FXpr0> hmmm, ok so I gonna reboot into windows then and do the image.
[06:16] <BradenBraden> so all these articles talk about xorg.conf but its no longer needed apparently.
[06:18] <ChibaPet> BradenBraden: You can still use it if you need custom config. Like, multimodes for an nVidia card.
[06:18] <BradenBraden> so it appears nvidia 346 is not supported by Wily or Xenial. Only 352 is (and thats probably why I cant install the other ones?)
[06:19] <BradenBraden> or i just need to add the Vernet sources to my list?
[06:22] <BradenBraden> so, found this which has all the drivers in.. cant find the ppa string though.  https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[06:23] <BradenBraden> ah found it
[06:23] <daftykins> yeah under the green link
[06:25] <BradenBraden> I see there is a 361 driver coming soon
[06:27] <BradenBraden> hmm ok, i have a couple more drivers to choose from but they are versions higher than 352 (355 & 361) but they are marked as open source.
[06:28] <hateball> BradenBraden: Is there a reason you are looking for a driver newer than 352?
[06:28] <BradenBraden> hateball, i was actually looking for something older
[06:28] <hateball> Ah
[06:29] <hateball> Well the PPA has 340, which supports old-gen things that were dropped in 346+
[06:29] <BradenBraden> not having much success downgrading though (yet)
[06:30] <BradenBraden> 340 doesnt show up in the list of additional drivers though. i guess i should just do it via cli
[06:31] <hateball> BradenBraden: yes, if you use the PPA you'll need to do that
[06:31] <daftykins> it's for optimus
[06:31] <BradenBraden> hateball, dont know if I need support for old gen things though. not much is "old" in this laptop lol
[06:31] <daftykins> too old and optimus isn't supported
[06:31] <BradenBraden> yea thats what I thought
[06:32] <hateball> So... 352 should work then no?
[06:32] <BradenBraden> having issues with it.. wanna try 346 and see
[06:32] <hateball> 355 is discontinued, but it's what I am using and it's fine. 361 should be fine once 361.18 is packaged
[06:33] <BradenBraden> 340 should be new enough to support optimus?
[06:34] <BradenBraden> hateball, and by 355, you mean the open source version?
[06:35] <hateball> BradenBraden: No, I mean the blob available in the PPA
[06:36] <BradenBraden> not seeing this "blob"
[06:37] <hateball> BradenBraden: apt-get install nvidia-355
[06:37] <hateball> or whatever version you want
[06:38] <BradenBraden> confirm though, that would be the same as going via the additional drivers dialog?
[06:38] <hateball> Yes
[06:38] <bob2017> FYI:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2309975&p=13423382#post13423382
[06:39] <BradenBraden> hateball, right. and I have 355 listed in the add driv dialog but it has (open source) next to it instead of (proprietory)
[06:40] <hateball> BradenBraden: That's odd. To be fair I don't know how that GUI is coded. Maybe it goes crazy when you add the PPA with more drivers than are just in official repos
[06:40] <hateball> If you do it via cli you're at least sure what you're getting
[06:41] <BradenBraden> ok. and you say 361 should be fine onces 361.18 is packaged, but I see it already in the list
[06:42] <daftykins> because it's an early drivers PPA
[06:42] <daftykins> i think you're asking too much and not just getting on with the task
[06:42] <daftykins> which is a simple one
[06:42] <hateball> If you read the page you will see that 352 is the only stable driver there, the rest are beta stuff
[06:42] <BradenBraden> sorry, just learning here lol
[06:42] <adiga88> hi all
[06:42] <adiga88> the load time of all my app take too much about 1-5 minutes depending on the app
[06:43] <adiga88> my system, ubuntu 14.0.4 up to date kernel 3.16.0-57-generic , ram 6 GB , cpu AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 , hard disk 500 GB WD blue , UI Gnome , home folder encryption: yes harddisk encryption: yes
[06:43] <BradenBraden> i am busy running updates on the laptop while i speak though
[06:43] <daftykins> adiga88: 3.16 is the old utopic kernel, as it happens
[06:43] <LegendThinker_> Hey... I flushed my iptables... but now i wanna turn it back to default. how to do sa
[06:43] <daftykins> you have an outdated HWE stack on there
[06:44] <daftykins> iptables has no rules as default
[06:44] <daftykins> encryption, mmm must be a bad setup
[06:45] <LegendThinker_> one app is behaving wierd from that night. cant remember if i did anything else than altering iptables
[06:45] <adiga88> daftykins i didn't understand extract what you mean
[06:46] <adiga88> daftykins yes it was bad choice
[06:47] <daftykins> !hwe
[06:47] <daftykins> 14.04 comes with the 3.13 kernel, but can have a HWE stack which provides the utopic (14.10) kernel v3.16, or the vivid (15.04) kernel v3.19
[06:48] <adiga88> daftykins my system not so new like build it on 2012 and all updates installed
[06:50] <BradenBraden> right so just rebooted after installing the 340 drivers and just before the login screen after showing the splash screen, it shows a black screen with the text:  fsck from util-linux 2.27.1  \n /dev/sda5: clean, ###/### files, ###/### blocks (where ## are numbers)... and it just sits here
[06:50] <daftykins> adiga88: it was just an aside - anyway i'm sure the encryption is to blame
[06:50] <lotuspsychje> BradenBraden: ubuntu version and card chipset plz?
[06:51] <daftykins> lotuspsychje: it's your fave optimus :>
[06:51] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: tnx for the headsup
[06:52] <BradenBraden> lotuspsychje, its a GeForce 950M. running (and here's where im a little out of place... :3) Ubuntu 16.04 (i really needed the new kernel to get my touchpad working but doing a disk upgrade borked my 15.10 install last night)
[06:52] <daftykins> oh you never told me that part
[06:52] <lotuspsychje> BradenBraden: can you file a bug in #ubuntu+1 please?
[06:52] <daftykins> you're not supposed to ask in here for 16.04 help you idiot =|
[06:53] <daftykins> i'm sure that has been made clear prior also.
[06:53] <adiga88> daftykins: the kernel upgraded with system update many times but still same slow, and no special upgrade had done
[06:53] <daftykins> adiga88: yeah it was more of an 'aside' comment, i'm not saying it's the reason.
[06:53] <BradenBraden> but this isnt specific to 16.04. Optimus was an issue before too
[06:54] <lotuspsychje> BradenBraden: continue in #ubuntu+1 for now please
[06:55] <BradenBraden> its very quiet in there
[06:55] <daftykins> BradenBraden: this channel however, is specific to released versions only - don't try this trick again.
[06:55] <daftykins> being dishonest will bring bad advice
[06:56] <BradenBraden> sorry :3
[06:57] <beepie> daftykins, i think calling other people names is not the way to promote help. I think the idiot is rather you.
[06:58] <daftykins> beepie: try that the next time someone lies to you in order to get help
[06:58] <daftykins> beepie: appreciate you keeping your opinions to yourself in future since you don't know i've been speaking to this one before...
[06:58] <beepie> daftykins, more healthy to not call names though
[06:58] <beepie> daftykins, cuse you sure ain't no 'einstein' either
[06:58] <daftykins> shut up beepie
[06:58] <lotuspsychje> beepie: move on please
[06:58] <BradenBraden> technically i never lied. only been talking about nvidia and ubuntu.
[06:59] <beepie> rude
[06:59] <BradenBraden> but yea, not an excuse
[06:59] <beepie> carry on
[07:00] <adiga88> daftykins: i think the encryption has major impact on the slow down, but i cant verifies it
[07:00] <daftykins> i don't know anything about encrypted setups, so can't help you there
[07:01] <lotuspsychje> !encrypt | adiga88 can this help?
[07:01] <adiga88> daftykins: ok thanks
[07:01] <BradenBraden> encrypting the drives during install has in the past given me such headaches, never again. (unless I join Anonymous or something)
[07:02] <adiga88> ubottu: my problem in system slow down and i suspect in the encryption
[07:02] <adiga88> ubottu: :)
[07:07] <jackcom> how can i install brew in ubuntu?
[07:07] <CinnamonRickRoll> is Chibapet (i think thats the right name) around?
[07:08] <BradenBraden> what you need brew for? brew only makes mac have "apt" (in a sense)
[07:08] <BradenBraden> i presume you talking about homebrew
[07:09] <jackcom> yeah
[07:09] <nikolam> Hi, Anyone using Pidgin with Gmail.com ? Is your certificate (Tools>Certificates) how this key certificate and how to check it against issuer? : 6f:d4:95:c1:5e:81:d0:80:44:e3:a4:0d:a6:16:6e:f1:f0:b6:25:b2
[07:09] <nikolam> now
[07:09] <jackcom> i want install  imagemagick
[07:09] <jackcom> brad[]:
[07:09] <jackcom> BradenBraden:
[07:09] <jackcom> how can i do?
[07:10] <ChibaPet> CinnamonRickRoll: Hi, yes. Normally I wouldn't be now, but I am being bad.
[07:10] <BradenBraden> sudo apt install image-magick
[07:10] <BradenBraden> most likely
[07:10] <jackcom> oh
[07:10] <jackcom> thanks
[07:10] <nikolam> jackcom, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[07:10] <CinnamonRickRoll> Chiba, was it you who suggested I make a projecting of learning shell script?
[07:10] <ChibaPet> CinnamonRickRoll: For your backlight. Yes.
[07:10] <jackcom> thanks nikolam
[07:10] <CinnamonRickRoll> Thanks! Its been really fun
[07:11] <ChibaPet> Programming can be quite a lot of fun. I'm glad you're trying it.
[07:11] <CinnamonRickRoll> but also, what sorta command should I be using in the script in order to do things with the back light?
[07:11] <jackcom> BradenBraden:  Unable to locate package image-magick
[07:11] <jackcom> how can i do?
[07:11] <jackcom> :(
[07:11] <CinnamonRickRoll> I've played around with code a bit before, but I'm picking it up much easier this time
[07:12] <ChibaPet> CinnamonRickRoll: Um, you'll want to read in backlight values, so cat. You'll want expr to do math on it.
[07:12] <BradenBraden> jackcom, imagemagick
[07:12] <CinnamonRickRoll> ah, ok, thanks
[07:12] <jackcom> yes imagemagick
[07:12] <BradenBraden> yes, imagemagick
[07:12] <BradenBraden> apt install
[07:13] <BradenBraden> double press tab to get a list of packages and autocomplete
[07:13] <jackcom> sudo apt install image-magick
[07:13] <CinnamonRickRoll> I was wondering if it'd be done with setpci, since i did something with that earlier and my screen went all weird so i had to force shut down
[07:13] <ChibaPet> CinnamonRickRoll: When I did it, I found the right /sys bits, read them in, did math to map the range to 1..100, and took a percentage number from the person running the script.
[07:13] <jackcom> sudo apt install image-magick  BradenBraden
[07:13] <ChibaPet> Just cat and math will do it.
[07:13] <CinnamonRickRoll> alright, cool, thanks a tonne
[07:13] <BradenBraden> jackcom, no -
[07:13] <jackcom> then?
[07:13] <BradenBraden> imagemagick!!
[07:13] <BradenBraden> lol
[07:14] <nikolam> I am looking for a way to chain-load GRUB1 on second disk, form GRUB2 on where I installed Xubuntu. When I start newly recognized Windows instalaltion on second disk,during  installgrub, it boots but pops up error and not starting windows. So I want to chainload GRUB1 on second disk from This first disk where Ubuntu instalaltion is.
[07:14] <jackcom> member:identifier:bradenbraden
[07:14] <jackcom> :
[07:14] <jackcom> sudo apt install image-magick
[07:15] <CinnamonRickRoll> isn't it "apt-get install"
[07:15] <CinnamonRickRoll> :)
[07:15] <ChibaPet> apt works too
[07:15] <CinnamonRickRoll> ah, good to know
[07:15] <BradenBraden> oh boy
[07:16] <BradenBraden> jackcom, "sudo apt-get install imagemagic"  (without the quotes.. and this text in the brackets)
[07:16] <BradenBraden> jackcom, "sudo apt-get install imagemagick"  (without the quotes.. and this text in the brackets) (and with the missing k)
[07:16] <nikolam> I tries adding menu item for chanload in /etc/grub.d/40_custom but won't work
[07:17] <shinigami> hi
[07:17] <jackcom> lol
[07:17] <CinnamonRickRoll> kira...
[07:17] <jackcom> always changed when you write
[07:17] <jackcom> BradenBraden:
[07:17] <shinigami> jackom:agent k
[07:18] <OerHeks> apt install works, but apt autoremove not :-)
[07:19] <shinigami> hi guys i have set LD_LIBRARY_PATH in one of the file and is unble to locate it
[07:19] <OerHeks> nikolam, did you perform sudo update-grub after that???
[07:19] <jackcom> sudo gem install gruff   <—— i can’t do it. BradenBraden
[07:19] <BradenBraden> jackcom, told your about the tab auto-complete. nikolam gave you the link to the packages for ubuntu. you had all you needed to get the right spelling
[07:20] <CinnamonRickRoll> perhaps write it out in full so they can copy/paste?
[07:20] <nikolam> OerHeks, yeah and it won't boot that way when I select windows. Presumably because I have another dual-boot with GRUB1 and 2 partitions on that second disk
[07:20] <jackcom> :(
[07:20] <nikolam> So betterw ould be to chain-load that Grub1 from second disk instead
[07:21] <OerHeks> nikolam, oh, grub 1 and grub 2, chainloading? not my piece of cake
[07:21] <nikolam> well, booting form one, then choosing another and boot from another. Chainload is what Windows boot from Grub2 does to boot windows,anyway.
[07:25] <CinnamonRickRoll> I'm no expert (far from it actually), but I was playing around with grub2 for a while, and although I wasn't looking for them, I'm pretty sure I saw some guides online that might help solve your problem
[07:25] <CinnamonRickRoll> but, as I said, I know very little about the issue
[07:26] <nikolam> OerHeks, probably if I do "repair" in windows, I would loose boot loader for linux and maybe that Grub1 loader on secon disk too and I will need to repair dual boot from Ubuntu liveDvd and that I will be able to dual-boot. But I need to triple-boot with that system on second partition on second drive that requires Grub1 on second drive.
[07:27] <nikolam> ok, will search further I probably have not set right disk designation fro chainload
[07:28] <OerHeks> grub1 is so old, it must be an other linux than ubuntu, no?
[07:31] <CinnamonRickRoll> earlier niko said it was xubuntu (I think)
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> sounds like someone needs a fresh install
[07:31] <elg0d0> Hello
[07:31] <elg0d0> I'm a nigger
[07:33] <hexhaxtron> What do you think of selling copies of Ubuntu in the streets? Holding a card like: Linux Ubuntu £10 + Free Support
[07:33] <hexhaxtron> Is this a good idea?
[07:34] <OerHeks> hexhaxtron, yeah, you push them to us for support and keep the money?
[07:34] <hexhaxtron> OerHeks, exactly!
[07:35] <OerHeks> you are allowed to ask a fee for burning a dvd/usb, but 10 is a bit much, isn't it?
[07:35] <hexhaxtron> I think I could sell it for £5.
[07:35] <OerHeks> print at least the ubuntu manual then.
[07:35] <OerHeks> !manual
[07:35] <Ben64> pretty sure you need authorization from canonical to sell ubuntu
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> yeah i wouldnt sell 'free' Os neither
[07:37] <OerHeks> go bing on selling the iso, there are companies that do that for $0.75 :-D
[07:41] <CinnamonRickRoll> lol wow
[07:47] <CinnamonRickRoll> how to find bashrc?
[07:49] <poutine> I've yet to find a person who loves bash who doesn't like zsh better after using it
[07:51] <lleweldyn> so this flexihub thing is interesting use using this http://www.noobslab.com/2016/01/flexihub-access-and-manage-remote-usb.html
[07:51] <PowerKiller> I like BASH better
[07:51] <PowerKiller> ZSH is like incomplete to me
[07:51] <PowerKiller> CinnamonRickRoll: BASHRC is ~/.bashrc
[07:52] <CinnamonRickRoll> thanks!
[07:52] <CinnamonRickRoll> much appreciated
[07:59] <lleweldyn> so just curious how many of you are using btrfs
[08:03] <BradenBraden> so im trying to install LTS now on my laptop. Wifi doesnt work cos of a Hard Block so have my phone connected and tethered but in the setup screen, it only wants me to select a wifi network. how can i tell it to use the "wired connection"?
[08:05] <Ben64> BradenBraden: you don't need internet to install
[08:06] <BradenBraden> I know but I was recommended to have it to have ubuntu get the right drivers and such straight up
[08:07] <BradenBraden> never mind
[08:07] <Ben64> not sure if you can tether for internet like that, or maybe use "try ubuntu" to set that up, then run the installer
[08:07] <BradenBraden> i skipped wifi and it shows connected anyway
[08:09] <BradenBraden> ohboy
[08:09] <BradenBraden> you know when you put in your name it generates a computer name for you?
[08:10] <CinnamonRickRoll> yeah?
[08:10] <hateball> BradenBraden: restricted drivers arent installed during install anyhow
[08:10] <BradenBraden> mine put in "braden-SMBIOS-implementations-newer-than-version-2-8-are-not-fully-supported-by-this-version-of-dmidecode-K501UK"
[08:10] <Ben64> hateball: yes they are
[08:10] <CinnamonRickRoll> lol
[08:11] <BradenBraden> wtf does that mean?? lol
[08:11] <hateball> Ben64: Is that so? I don't recall that being the case for me. Perhaps that's changed since last I did a clean install then
[08:11] <hateball> iirc it only offers to pull in language packs and various media codecs etc
[08:11] <CinnamonRickRoll> it stands for: laughing out loud, I was using it to acknowledge the humourous aspect of your story
[08:11] <BradenBraden> no man, what does all that dmidecode stuff mean lol
[08:12] <Ben64> hateball: when i installed 14.04, it installed nvidia for me, was nice
[08:12] <hateball> Ben64: I see, good to know
[08:12] <CinnamonRickRoll> lol ah, my bad :)
[08:13] <wyhwyh> Are there some one
[08:13] <CinnamonRickRoll> anybody know how to get Linux Dialogue Utility on ubuntu?
[08:14] <CinnamonRickRoll> all good, i got it
[08:18] <topi`> any old hats who still remember how to debug the upstart in Trusty?
[08:18] <topi`> I'm having a lot of problems trying to get my custom daemon to start via a .conf file and no idea *why* it doesn't start at boot but starts via manual means
[08:19] <topi`> oh, and the same .conf file works in another Trusty setup which is very similar
[08:23] <wyhwyh> how to use Chinese input method?
[08:37] <BradenBraden> from a fresh install, can upgrading the kernel manually end in catastrophe?
[08:38] <OerHeks> BradenBraden, you are on .. 16.04 ?
[08:38] <BradenBraden> no. busy installing LTS
[08:39] <BradenBraden> 8th install of nix this week
[08:40] <BradenBraden> just taking ages cos ubuntu feels like downloading the entire chinese language first
[08:40] <OerHeks> you can upgrade the kernel from mainline, but note: The mainline kernels builds are produced for debugging purposes and therefore come with no support. Use them at your own risk.
[08:40] <BradenBraden> sure. but mainline are considered stable right?
[08:41] <OerHeks> no.
[08:41] <BradenBraden> oh. thought that was what was meant by the "main" line lol
[08:42] <BradenBraden> theoretically though, 14.04 should be able to run on, say, kernel 4.3?
[08:43] <rww> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[08:43] <rww> (first paragraph)
[08:44] <BradenBraden> yea im on that page and have read that. i just dont know how else to get 4.3 (its the only version so far that has allowed my touchpad to work)
[08:44] <DJJeff> lol syslog Denial of Service.....  We have interesting situation with int8. Look here: http://pastebin.com/Lyh22dur Is anyone can explain why this happens?
[08:48] <DJJeff> bug filled https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dnsmasq/+bug/1534501
[08:48] <omnik5569> oh, sorry, wrong channel :)
[08:49] <Kardos> ;)
[08:52] <llldino> DJJeff, Have you done an apt-get update /upgrade recently? Debian pushed one either today or yesterday that had something to do with dnsmasq
[08:52] <DJJeff> I am all up2date
[08:52] <DJJeff> its probley the latest update that CAUSED this not SOLVED it
[08:53] <llldino> Perhaps
[08:53] <DJJeff> as I only noticed the problem after I just rebooted about 1 hour ago
[08:54] <DJJeff> still funny to watch syslogs fill up at 1MB per second with dnsmasq errors
[08:54] <DJJeff> so lolsy
[08:54] <llldino> Hope your /var is on it's own partition
[08:54] <DJJeff> hello rate limiting please.......... 1 of the same error messages per hour 2 tops
[08:55] <DJJeff> not lets just fill up this poor idiots syslogs till his disk is full
[08:55] <DJJeff> thats like so fail it deserves to be put on defcons fail panel
[08:56] <DJJeff> ubuntu DDoS its own users by not rate limiting the number of errors 1 package can put per hour
[08:56] <llldino> You're joking right?
[08:57] <Dirkos> Is this size big enough?
[08:57] <Dirkos>  /dev/sdc2       237M  160M   65M  72% /boot
[08:57] <Dirkos> Since everytime i cannot install updates on my ubuntu system due to the fact my disk is full again
[08:57] <llldino> That's why it's advised that you mount /var on it's own partition, to avoid filling your disk as a result of bugs
[08:57] <DJJeff> # ls -alh /var/log/syslog
[08:57] <DJJeff> -rw-r----- 1 syslog adm 340M Jan 15 00:52 /var/log/syslog
[08:58] <llldino> Also, I found this:First, make sure that /etc/resolv.conf is still a symbolic link to ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf. edit /etc/NetworkManager/NetworkManager.conf and comment out the line "dns=dnsmasq". Third, reboot."
[08:58] <DJJeff> that was ~50M after boot
[08:58] <OerHeks> Dirkos, remove some old kernels > sudo apt-get autoremove
[08:58] <Dirkos> OerHeks: it doesnt remove anything
[08:58] <DJJeff> llldino: please state your source of that information please
[08:59] <llldino> DJJeff, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1048430
[08:59] <OerHeks> Dirkos, oh? what error do you get then?
[08:59] <Dirkos> Wait let me paste something
[08:59] <OerHeks> !paste
[08:59] <DJJeff> llldino: that bug was reported back in 2012? how is it relevant here
[08:59] <llldino> DJJeff, Same type of error
[09:00] <OerHeks> Sebastien, turn off that script, please
[09:00] <DJJeff> sad sad thats just sad
[09:00] <llldino> Did you even read the first post? It looks exactly like your syslog
[09:00] <Dirkos> OerHeks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14503387/
[09:01] <Dirkos> All steps i tried etc
[09:02] <JimWang> hello
[09:02] <DJJeff> regardless of the bug nothing should fill up syslogs at a rate of 1MB/sec with repeated information thats just shooting yourself in the foot
[09:03] <DJJeff> and super funny to boot
[09:03] <OerHeks> Dirkos, not sure how to fix that :-(
[09:03] <Dirkos> Someone else who does? Seems it has dependecy problems with old kernels that are not running
[09:04] <llldino> Just make a symlink from syslog to /dev/null ;D
[09:05] <DJJeff> ok that fixes my machine but what about joe blow down the street
[09:05] <DJJeff> I would need to fix his too in the same manor
[09:05] <llldino> Have you restarted your computer at all since this has been happening?
[09:06] <DJJeff> fuck it I am done
[09:06] <DJJeff> already said that it started happening AFTER I rebooted and not before
[09:06] <llldino> Did you try rebooting again?
[09:06] <llldino> Did you read or do anything in that bug report I sent you?
[09:07] <llldino> Instead of complaining about it, why not try taking steps to actually fix the problem instead of whining about how Ubuntu is DDoSing your syslog
[09:08] <DJJeff> my point is......... even with the fact that its broken it should NOT be filling up syslogs at an alarming rate of 1MB/sec
[09:08] <DJJeff> with the same messages repeated over and over and over and over and over and over and over again
[09:09] <DJJeff> I could not give a fuck that its broken thats fine I like fixing things but filling up syslogs in this manor is just fucked up
[09:09] <DJJeff> end rant
[09:10] <wyhwyh> reinstall system
[09:10] <BrazenBraden> Switch to Knoppix
[09:11] <OerHeks> no use to post that here, BrazenBraden
[09:11] <BrazenBraden> twas making a joke :/
[09:12] <BrazenBraden> i have nothing left to do but make jokes while I reinstall for the 9th time
[09:13] <wyhwyh> I have reinstalled for 6 times in one day
[09:13] <wyhwyh> and try to install other distributions
[09:15] <gateshwill> wyhwyh: try windows 10 it just works all the time
[09:15] <OerHeks> If you have no support question, move the chit chat to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[09:17] <CinnamonRickRoll> anybody fluent in shell scripts?
[09:17] <CinnamonRickRoll> (thats willing to look at a thing and tell me why its not working)
[09:17] <llldino> CinnamonRickRoll, All the guys in #bash usually are
[09:18] <CinnamonRickRoll> thanks, I'll go check that out then
[09:19] <BrazenBraden> well, clearly upgrading to a mainline kernel is a good way to freeze up everything.
[09:19]  * BrazenBraden finds an old rusty blade
[09:25] <ashleyhindle> Hi - is there a time limit in Ubuntu 14.04 for TCP connections without data? I'm opening a connection to a server on port 11960, then not sending it data for 6 hours - but once I do it should be received, but currently it's not
[09:25] <ashleyhindle> I think the problem lies with the server provider, and not our app or Ubuntu
[09:32] <topi`> is dnsmasq still broken in newer Ubuntus? at least in Trusty it is unusable
[09:40] <nitesh`> Hello All
[09:41] <nitesh`> How do I find the right repo link for a particular ubuntu version?
[09:41] <nitesh`> so that apt-get install works seemeless
[09:41] <OerHeks> for what ubuntu version?
[09:41] <ubuntu770> I am trying out on 1604
[09:42] <OerHeks> ubuntu770, join #ubuntu+1 for 16.04 untill release
[09:43] <Muh2> Hi, is there a tool for doing Ubuntu translation offline?
[09:43] <nitesh`> OerHeks: Thnx
[09:48] <BrazenBraden> good news, updating from kernel 4.2 to 4.3 on 15.10 worked like a charm
[09:50] <rilleh> Anyone had any experience installing HP SPP through apt-get?
[09:50] <rilleh> I know that some hp software is available in the upstream kernel, but that doesn't seem to be the case with the SPP
[09:52] <nitesh`> where is the repo list in ubuntu? My  /etc/apt/sources.list seems to be empty
[09:53] <TJ-> nitesh`: that's the main list for the Ubuntu sources; 3rd-party sources are usually installed under /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[09:53] <caitlinb> Hi everyone, I’m trying to get an install up with btrfs and whole disk encryption. honestly I don’t understand where lvm would or would not fit into that picture. Is there a recent guide anyone can point me at? I’m struggling.
[09:54] <TJ-> caitlinb: encrpytion and LVM are orthoganol; not related.
[09:55] <nitesh`> TJ: My ubuntu 1604 does not have apt directory in /etc
[09:56] <OerHeks> nitesh`, you can only see the content as root
[09:57] <nitesh`> OerHeks: I am the root
[09:57] <caitlinb> TJ, I suppose I mean to say that i don’t automagically require lvm to feature
[09:57] <TJ-> nitesh`: Then something is very wrong with the installation
[09:57] <nitesh`> [root@localhost etc]# ls apt
[09:57] <nitesh`> ls: cannot access apt: No such file or directory
[09:58] <TJ-> caitlinb: well, creating a LUKS/dm_crypt protected block-device container is as simple as "cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/sdXY" (or /dev/VG/LV if using LVM) :)
[09:59] <TJ-> nitesh`: how about "ls /etc/apt/"
[09:59] <caitlinb> so i should be able to install an lvm ext4 vanilla install, pivot it to btrfs and then luks it?
[10:00] <TJ-> caitlinb: I have separately encrypted /boot/ and VG block-devices; in my case, the raw disk partitions themselves rather than btrfs sub-volumes or whatever
[10:01] <TJ-> caitlinb: not sure about the pivot; it'd be easier to manually prepare it during the installation phase and then point the installer at the unlocked file-systems, and then post-install fix-up the /etc/crypttab so it auto-unlocks at boot time
[10:01] <nitesh`> TJ: [root@localhost /]# ls /etc/apt/
[10:01] <nitesh`> ls: cannot access /etc/apt/: No such file or directory
[10:02] <TJ-> nitesh`: how did you install 16.04 on that system? It's very broken if /etc/apt/ is missing
[10:02] <nitesh`> TJ: Oh. This means the installation is broken
[10:05] <EriC^^> type cat /etc/issue
[10:05] <EriC^^> nitesh`:
[10:05] <nitesh`> ok
[10:06] <Moonchild> Hallo
[10:07] <Moonchild> Kann mir bitte jemand bei der installation von ubuntu 14.04.2 auf powermac helfen
[10:08] <EriC^^> !germany
[10:10] <nitesh`> I restarted the guest, and can see now /etc/apt/ .  Kind of weird..
[10:11] <Moonchild> Danke
[10:17] <nitesh`> TJ: I need to update my repo list i.e.  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ but for xenial(UBuntu1604). So I asked on #ubuntu+1 and got a reply stating to just copy the repo list from other UBuntu and replace that ubuntu's version name with xenial. However I dont have any other ubuntu system to copy paste from. Any way to get it then?
[10:18] <rory> nitesh`: http://rory.sh/sources.list this is for 14.04
[10:21] <TJ-> nitesh`: there's always an example sources.list, it's at /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list
[10:21] <PowerKiller> can I integrate a PPAPI Flash player that I found with Chromium
[10:22] <crispy_beef> Hey, got an issue with boot... it's  "raid > encrypted > lvm" on 15.10 with btrfs root filesystem, I can chroot into the env from a live CD, this used to work, but on boot cannot. /boot is on it's own unencrypted drive. Am sure I am 99% there but getting root cannot be found after grub.
[10:32] <TJ-> crispy_beef: that suggests the initial ramdisk is missing some support
[10:33] <pepie34> I've got a lot fo problem with key authentication since yesterday ssh update
[10:36] <crispy_beef> TJ-: added -v to update-initramfs when in the chroot, all the modules seem to get added, but there is one issue that makes me think it is the problem with the recovery... "cryptsetup: WARNING: could not determine root device from /etc/fstab"
[10:37] <TJ-> crispy_beef: right, so cryptsetup doesn't get installed
[10:37] <crispy_beef> Which makes sense as it's a chroot and the volumes in fstab won't match
[10:39] <TJ-> crispy_beef: the fstab entries should use UUIDs of the file-systems
[10:41] <crispy_beef> TJ-: Yeah they were the mapper entries, gonna switch the to UUIDs now and try again
[10:42] <angel_> exit
[10:42] <crispy_beef> TJ-: Any idea if I should use the main UUID or the btrfs subvolume one?
[10:42] <TJ-> crispy_beef: when you update-intramfs -v ... you need to see /sbin/cryptsetup copied *and* a generated conf/conf.d/cryptroot. You can use "lsinitramfs /boot/initrd.img-<VERSION>" to check content
[10:43] <TJ-> crispy_beef: UUID of the sub-volume file-system I believe
[10:53] <crispy_beef> TJ-: looks like some crypto stuff in there but not what you mentioned...   http://pastebin.com/HgEhcysV
[10:55] <TJ-> crispy_beef: correct; it's not correct yet. The key is to ensure the /etc/crypttab and /etc/fstab can be linked up by /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot (which is responsible for installing the cryptsetup parts into the initrd.img if required)
[10:56] <theRVman> Is there any way to install microsoft onenote on ubuntu? I tried wine but it doesn't work smoothly...any alternatives?
[10:56] <ikonia> theRVman: not really
[10:57] <theRVman> @ikonia are there any alternates to onenote then?
[10:57] <crispy_beef> TJ-: ok cool. I know the crypttab should be correct as it hasn't change from the working install. Will update the fstab now and try update-initramfs again...
[10:58] <ikonia> nothing thats like for like
[10:58] <OerHeks> theRVman, see here http://askubuntu.com/questions/19230/microsoft-onenote-alternative
[10:58] <ikonia> there are note packages like tomboy for example but thats quite distant
[10:59] <TJ-> crispy_beef: I suspect your issue is in the way you've got btrfs involved; maybe the cryproot hook isn't coded to handle btrfs. I can't recall if it is or not right now.
[10:59] <ikonia> actually that link raises a good point, office 365
[11:05] <crispy_beef> TJ-: this is what I see from "blkid" for my root:  /dev/mapper/xpc-root: UUID="c5ae903a-f3a7-4311-a7d3-beebc5a3bafa" UUID_SUB="cef43bd4-ce1e-44b6-a87c-67cdcd1f437f" TYPE="btrfs"
[11:06] <throoze> hi!
[11:06] <crispy_beef> TJ-: it did work, this whole mess came about from update-initramfs and grub freezing on an update due to a card reader in my Dell screen. :-/
[11:06] <throoze> is it possible to create a symbolic link pointing to file in a  read only partition in ubuntu?
[11:06] <kozukumi> hi, is there a way to totally disable things like dash plugins from showing up in the dash? they are annoying the hell out of me? i just want the dash to show me applications, NOTHING MORE!
[11:07] <crispy_beef> Was a clean 15.04 install, but the mess started with the upgrade to 15.10
[11:10] <TJ-> crispy_beef: the key to the cryptsetup parts is that hook script. In these cases I manually edit it, adding "set -x" (which echos all lines before executing them) as the first line after the !shebang, and then use "update-initramfs -vu |& tee /tmp/initrd.log" to capture the output and be able to review the /tmp/initrd.log file
[11:10] <adithyan>  hlo  can I get some help to create some Free Culture for 16.04 (Ubuntu)
[11:10] <OerHeks> kozukumi, install synaptic, and search for 'scope'
[11:10] <kozukumi> thanks OerHeks will do
[11:10] <OerHeks> and uninstall them
[11:10] <OerHeks> !paste
[11:11] <IceBot3000> The time on my server is incorrect by ~2 hours. Is there a way to set the correct time, so it gradually adjusts over a day or so rather than instant?
[11:12] <throoze> is it possible to create a symbolic link pointing to file in a  read only partition in ubuntu?
[11:14] <g0g0boy> Hey All, have an issue with updating kernel
[11:14] <g0g0boy> I have got the output of my issues saved on pastebin to minimise questions relating to the issue.
[11:15] <kozukumi> thank you OerHeks !
[11:15] <kozukumi> worked perfectly
[11:15] <TJ-> g0g0boy: give us the link
[11:15] <g0g0boy> http://pastebin.com/1NQRhyPQ
[11:16] <g0g0boy> all previouse kernals have been removed using dpkg --remove command
[11:17] <TJ-> g0g0boy: right, lovely mess :)
[11:17] <adithyan>  can I get some help to create some Free Culture for 16.04 (Ubuntu)
[11:17] <TJ-> g0g0boy: do "dpkg -l 'linux-image*' | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:18] <throoze> adithyan, what's Free Culture?
[11:19] <crispy_beef> TJ-: thanks for the help btw, this is with set -x in cryptroot   http://pastebin.com/1eer22ib
[11:19] <adithyan> The free culture movement is a social movement that promotes the freedom to distribute and modify creative works in the form of free content.
[11:19] <OerHeks> adithyan, ask in #ubuntu+1, for 16.04 support until release
[11:19] <adithyan> ok sir thanks
[11:19] <g0g0boy> TJ- done: http://termbin.com/4mp6
[11:20] <crispy_beef> TJ-: that was with the btrfs sub-volume UUID
[11:21] <TJ-> g0g0boy: now let's find out what's in /boot/ with "ls -latr /boot/ | nc termbin.com 9999"
[11:21] <kozukumi> can i install a deb with dpkg and have it automatically install dependencies?
[11:21] <kozukumi> like how the software centre does?
[11:22] <TJ-> crispy_beef: so it gets so far in identifying it, but at line 34-37 it goes wrong, by the look of that
[11:22] <g0g0boy> TJ-: it says use netcat  :)
[11:23] <TJ-> g0g0boy: did it do that for the last command!?
[11:23] <crispy_beef> TJ-: will try with the main volume UUID and see if htat is any different.
[11:24] <TJ-> crispy_beef: Yes; if the LUKS/dm_crypt is wrapping the entire thing that might be needed. It gets complicated :)
[11:25] <g0g0boy> TJ-: insists netcat
[11:25] <g0g0boy> I have pasted on pastebin:  http://pastebin.com/ERWQMq92
[11:29] <NOS> anyone one
[11:29] <NOS> on
[11:30] <OerHeks> 1852 are
[11:31] <TJ-> g0g0boy: Right, manually remove some of those images: "sudo rm /boot/{vmlinuz,initrd.img,config,System.map,abi}-{3.19.0-31,4.2.0-16,4.2.0-17,4.2.0-18}* "
[11:32] <g0g0boy> TJ- done
[11:32] <TJ-> g0g0boy: now check "df | boot" and you should see plenty of free space
[11:32] <TJ-> g0g0boy: if so, now redo "sudo apt-get -f install"
[11:33] <TJ-> g0g0boy: at that point, if it is successful, you can finally do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[11:34] <odroid> hi
[11:36] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:36] <crispy_beef> TJ-: same error, but some differences in output, it shows /dev/dm-1 which is a link of the UUID in /dev  http://pastebin.com/HviMtKbx
[11:37] <crispy_beef> But still no root found, which I think kinda makes sense? As root is in an LVM volume inside that?
[11:40] <g0g0boy> TJ-: you know what your talking about  :)
[11:42] <crispy_beef> TJ-: the layout is "(raid) /dev/md2 > (crypt) /dev/dm-1 > (lvm/btrfs) /dev/mapper/xpc-root"
[11:45] <TJ-> crispy_beef: cripes!
[11:50] <ala> uuu
[11:50] <Rider40> hi
[11:50] <kuliza> SMTPException: SMTP AUTH extension not supported by server.
[11:51] <ala> hi
[11:51] <kuliza> hi
[11:51] <kuliza> plz solve the error
[11:51] <ala> ok
[11:51] <blackflow> kuliza: the error appears on your side? unsupported AUTH?
[11:51] <kuliza> yes
[11:51] <ala> yes
[11:51] <ala> no
[12:01] <blackflow> kuliza: so what is there to fix? what software is that? what auth method is attempted?
[12:03] <MonkeyDust> kuliza  and what ubuntu version
[12:05] <kuliza> SMTPException: SMTP AUTH extension not supported by server.
[12:05] <k1l> !details | kuliza
[12:05] <kuliza> help me with this
[12:06] <k1l> kuliza: which program, which ubuntu, what command brings you that, what is the rest of the output?
[12:07] <kuliza> m tryin to send email via gmail smtp
[12:08] <blackflow> kuliza: how? using what program?
[12:08] <kuliza>  EMAIL_BACKEND = 'django.core.mail.backends.smtp.EmailBackend'
[12:08] <kuliza>     EMAIL_HOST = 'smtp.gmail.com'
[12:08] <kuliza>     EMAIL_PORT = 587
[12:08] <kuliza>     EMAIL_HOST_USER =<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:08] <kuliza>     EMAIL_HOST_PASSWORD = 'kuliza123'
[12:08] <kuliza>     EMAIL_USE_TLS = False
[12:10] <k1l> !paste | kuliza
[12:10] <k1l> kuliza: and you still didnt answer what ubuntu version exactly, what program etc.
[12:12] <kuliza> I am really sorry please ignore this i shall post in #django chanel
[12:12] <kuliza> am new to irc thing
[12:12] <labsy> hi all. is there any way to get all packages (a list of all) as json?
[12:12] <labsy> is there something in json format like the Package.gz you will find in a repository.
[12:13] <labsy> or I could jsonify it myself if there is a resource from which I could get a whole list.
[12:13] <labsy> basically I want to search for packages. I made a gui for apt-cache so far. but it executes apt-cache search $SEARCHTERM$ everytime.
[12:14] <labsy> and I want to avoid that (also time consuming) by having just a file with all packages in it. parsing a file is faster than querying a remote repository.
[12:20] <TJ-> labsy: if you're searching just for package *names* then "apt-cache search -n <term>" would be much faster/better
[12:24] <TJ-> labsy: is this a local service, or networked? If networked, you might find the launchpad API services useful
[12:35] <BrazenBraden> gosh darn optimus. installed the intel and nvidia driver(352) from software update. prime is installed. when i open nvidia-settings, there is no option to choose a prime profile -.- running prime-select query in the term shows that nvidia is selected but if i try with that or intel (by manually changing it via prime-select) i get a black screen where the login screen should be
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> BrazenBraden: try a lower version mate
[12:37] <BrazenBraden> ive removed nvidia and am now trying the 361 drivers after adding the graphics-drivers ppa. will see what that does but this slow internet is killing me slowly
[12:37] <lotuspsychje> braderhart: 352 has issues on many users
[12:38] <BrazenBraden> i only get higher versions than 352. looking in the ppa, the version below that are not supported by wily
[12:38] <lotuspsychje> BrazenBraden: wich ubuntu version are you on now?
[12:39] <BrazenBraden> 15.10
[12:39] <BrazenBraden> tried LTS
[12:39] <lotuspsychje> BrazenBraden: no luck on trusty?
[12:39] <BrazenBraden> all went to the toilet lol
[12:39] <BrazenBraden> kernel is way too old for this hardware
[12:40] <ropo_> hello whenver i start vi editor i get automatic indentation like this ---> http://imgur.com/AobwsBT
[12:40] <ropo_> who can fix it?
[12:40] <charlesW> i have a Samsung Galaxy 4 S Mini and I run Ubuntu 14.04 on my computer. When I connect the mini to a usb connected to the computer, The computer does not find it? Any ideas on how-to fix this?
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> ropo_  what are we supposed to see on the screenshot?
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> ropo_: maybe the #vim guys know?
[12:41] <OerHeks> ropo what is wrong with that?
[12:41] <lotuspsychje> charlesW: got dev mode enabled on the samsung?
[12:41] <ropo_> MonkeyDust, OerHeks zoom into the terminal, u can see that it's automatically indented.
[12:41] <effgeee> grr, something in my home directory is causing my xsession to constantly use 25 -30% cpu, a new profile does no such thing. Does anyone know  a technique to determine the derp?
[12:42] <charlesW> Hi lotuspsychje: I have the usb connect on and it searches, but does not find
[12:44] <lotuspsychje> charlesW: do you have developer mode enabled on the samsung?
[12:45] <charlesW> I dont know. probably not. i was unaware of that mode.
[12:45] <charlesW> I will check into that after work today.
[12:46] <BrazenBraden> driver 361 finished installing. still no PRIME profiles option available in nvidia-settings
[12:47] <lotuspsychje> BrazenBraden: and you installed nvidia-prime right?
[12:47] <BrazenBraden> yes
[12:47] <BrazenBraden> i will double check
[12:47] <BrazenBraden> yup
[12:48] <lotuspsychje> BrazenBraden: ok you tested alot already, time to investigate your syslog and dmesg?
[12:48] <BrazenBraden> please tell me i havent broken this.... i manually upgraded my kernel from 4.2 to 4.3 (the one in which my multi-touch touchpad works). could that be the reason?
[12:49] <lotuspsychje> BrazenBraden: didnt you test graphics 'before' you upgraded kernel?
[12:50] <charlesW> what is umode +R?
[12:50] <BrazenBraden> no because the kernel guide said to remove any "off tree" software like fxlr (or something) and other things. so in order to prevent the new kernel not working, i installed nothing
[12:51] <ceibal> Hola
[12:51] <lotuspsychje> !es | ceibal
[12:51] <ceibal> Hello
[12:53] <lotuspsychje> BrazenBraden: can you re-ask your issue togheter with syslog and dmesg pastebin once in a while, thatl make it easier for us to troubleshoot
[12:54] <BrazenBraden> anything in particular i should be calling on dmesg?
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> BrazenBraden: share bot full logs please
[12:55] <lotuspsychje> both
[12:56] <BrazenBraden> lotuspsychje, let me just to a restart since I havent yet since installing the new drivers
[12:56] <lotuspsychje> ok
[12:56] <BrazenBraden> brb
[12:57] <ceibal> Somebody speaks spanish?
[12:57] <hateball> !es | ceibal
[12:58] <necrophcodr> great issue here with apache. so running apache with the usual default setup, and a bunch of vhosts in /etc/apache/sites-enabled, some with SSL, some without, how do you avoid getting an invalid certificate for sites that don't have an SSL certificate, but are accessed through https://site.tld ?
[12:58] <necrophcodr> so i want to be able to access https://example1.com and go to https://example1.com. it has SSL enabled.
[12:59] <necrophcodr> but when i access https://example2.com i need to go to http://example2.com, as no SSL certificate exists for this domain.
[12:59] <TJ-> necrophcodr: the default HTTPS site will answer for those
[12:59] <necrophcodr> TJ-: thanks man, i'll look into that
[13:00] <necrophcodr> TJ-: how do i determine which site is the default HTTPS site?
[13:00] <necrophcodr> and is there any way to redirect *before* the handshake? i mean i suppose not, from what i read, but that is not an acceptable solution it would appear.
[13:01] <TJ-> necrophcodr: I'm not too sure you can do much about that; you can't prevent the client requesting the HTTPS site, and the hostname is translated to IP address to make the connection. At that point, if you have multiple HTTPS VHosts on the same IP address you rely on SNI (Server Name Indication).
[13:02] <necrophcodr> TJ-: i gathered as much. however, the certificate being pushed is the server default (quite naturally), but the domain is loaded correctly even though there's no <VirtualHost ip:443> configuration for it.
[13:02] <necrophcodr> i also gathered it would be impossible, but i'm afraid our clients are not happy about that. if it really is, then that's just that.
[13:03] <TJ-> you mean the default VHost *:443 server certificate is being presented to the client, but after that, the expected domain.tld content is served with that certificate?
[13:03] <necrophcodr> exactly
[13:03] <necrophcodr> well no, hold on
[13:03] <TJ-> simplest solution is install a server certificate for the domain.tld
[13:04] <necrophcodr> yes, that's correct
[13:04] <necrophcodr> i would if that were possible, but we do not yet offer that option
[13:04] <TJ-> you can always force that to redirect to pure HTTP if you really don't want to serve over HTTPS
[13:04] <necrophcodr> TJ-: how would i do this? is there a way to do this globally?
[13:05] <necrophcodr> i mean for all Vhosts
[13:05] <b3543> left something resting on my keyboard and now my desktop covered in those yellow stickynotes !!  how do i disable or better still uninstall ? i think they are plasma widgets
[13:05] <TJ-> if you're using name-based virtual hosts for HTTPS you're relying on the clients always using SNI - some still don't so they'll only ever get the default site
[13:06] <BradenBraden> ok im back (on my fedora machine with the laptop next to me)
[13:06] <nchambers> oh hey.. I actually understood most of that
[13:07] <BradenBraden> i cant get back into ubuntu after restart. will have to remove the nvidia drivers first. tried loading up with the 4.2 kernel as well but it just hangs at "Loading initial ramdisk..."
[13:07] <TJ-> necrophcodr: I can't imagine *not* serving a site over HTTPS these days
[13:07] <LegendThinker> hey there i am using wifi chipset  rtl8723be and OS as 14.04... After many many days of trying to resolve wifi drops i finally got to know that it is caused by this... but still not able to resolve it
[13:08] <TJ-> BradenBraden: that suggests the kernel didn't get started if you saw nothing more. "Loading initial ramdisk..." is a GRUB message
[13:08] <necrophcodr> TJ-: that is what i told our clients, but business is business, and they want HTTP default, and HTTPS when needed. so we need to default everything to HTTP, since they're not paying for any additional certificates.
[13:08] <necrophcodr> maybe in the future we'll use letsencrypt, but not today
[13:08] <BradenBraden> TJ-, yea
[13:09] <TJ-> necrophcodr: I'd ignore the client! Get a letsencrypt cert installed so SNI works, then set up a redirect to the HTTP side if you want to up-sell them later
[13:09] <ropo_> tab is not auto completing the file name but instead it is auto completing the command name
[13:09] <ropo_> help
[13:09] <necrophcodr> TJ-: yeah maybe. i'll look into it. it seems to be quite a problematic setup.
[13:11] <TJ-> necrophcodr: it is if you're hosting multiple domains on a single IP. You need IP based vhosts for what you're doing
[13:12] <LegendThinker> hey there i am using wifi chipset  rtl8723be and OS as 14.04... After many many days of trying to resolve wifi drops i finally got to know that it is caused by this... but still not able to resolve it
[13:12] <BradenBraden> right, lotuspsychje, i have the output from dmesg (note that i have no nvidia drivers install atm):  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14504515/
[13:12] <OerHeks> ropo_, if the folder of the filename is not in your %path% then autocomplete does not work, afaik
[13:12] <lotuspsychje> BradenBraden: lets c
[13:13] <BradenBraden> how do i get the syslog stuff? just cat syslog.log into pastebinit?
[13:13] <LegendThinker> Some body please help
[13:13] <LegendThinker> I will loose the project of my life coz of this
[13:14] <lotuspsychje> !pastebinit | BradenBraden
[13:14] <OerHeks> LegendThinker, known issue > http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-trusty-realtek.html
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> BradenBraden: nothing usefull there, but might be a skylake issue...
[13:15] <BradenBraden> lotuspsychje, syslog:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/14504541
[13:15] <lotuspsychje> BradenBraden: not sure howto solve this
[13:15] <OerHeks> LegendThinker, try the "more difficult solution" to build the driver
[13:15] <BradenBraden> jeepers, 24000 lines o.O
[13:16] <BradenBraden> lotuspsychje, yea i read that kernel 4.3 introducted some intel skylake something
[13:16] <LegendThinker> simpler one gave options: command not found
[13:16] <lotuspsychje> BradenBraden: we had some skylake users with issue here recently
[13:17] <BradenBraden> a specific type of chip i take it. presume mine is not such a one. but just because it now supports skylake doesnt mean its forgone the other intel chips
[13:17] <lotuspsychje> BradenBraden: please also mention skylake when you re-ask your question ok
[13:17] <BradenBraden> but i have nothing to do with skylake O.o
[13:18] <BradenBraden> do i?
 simpler one gave options: command not found
what to do with th
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> LegendThinker  type oe and then hit tab to autocomplete the nickname
[13:20] <OerHeks> LegendThinker, ???
[13:20] <lotuspsychje> BradenBraden: 277 0.102728] Performance Events: PEBS fmt3+, 32-deep LBR, Skylake events, full-width counters, Intel PMU driver.
[13:20] <LegendThinker> :D thanks..
[13:20] <BradenBraden> lotuspsychje, so you saying my chip IS a skylake one?
[13:20] <OerHeks> LegendThinker, "simpler one gave options" is not a command
[13:21] <LegendThinker> OerHeks, options rtl8723be fwlps=N ips=N
[13:21] <LegendThinker> options: command not found
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> LegendThinker  what are you doing
[13:22] <TJ-> LegendThinker: which kernel version is that 14.04 instal using?
[13:22] <OerHeks> LegendThinker, i told you: try the "more difficult solution" to build the driver
[13:22] <lotuspsychje> BradenBraden: if logs mentioning it...ask ##hardware if you wanna be sure
[13:22] <BradenBraden> lotuspsychje, ok.. with the double #?
[13:23] <sruli> hi, I have a problem with my iptables rule (vpn kill switch), it worked fine in 14.04 with virtualbox VM's i am now trying it in 15.10 with KVM VM's and its not working properly the iptables rules i use is http://paste.ubuntu.com/14501070/ the output of iptables -L is http://paste.ubuntu.com/14501161/ this woks only for host, VM's still work after VPN disconnect, i tried a different set of rules with this script paste.ubuntu.com/14504570 the iptables -L  output
[13:23] <TJ-> OerHeks: from that article "...the problem does not manifest in the newer Netrunner 15, which is built on Utopic..." suggests simply installing an LTSE would solve it
[13:23] <sruli> i am really desperate to get this working i will pay $50 to whoever solves this for me
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> BradenBraden: you also have tons of ureadahead lines in logs...
[13:24] <BradenBraden> lotuspsychje, apologies but I do not know what a ureadahead line is
[13:24] <savrus> ciao a tutti
[13:24] <lotuspsychje> !it | savrus
[13:24] <OerHeks> TJ-, i helped someone before where building the driver works..
[13:25] <TJ-> OerHeks: right, but I'm suggesting its easier to just install the latest 14.04 HWE kernels
[13:25] <lotuspsychje> BradenBraden: ureadahead  (über-readahead)  is  used  during  boot  to  read files in
[13:25] <lotuspsychje>        advance of when they are needed such that they are already in the  page
[13:25] <lotuspsychje>        cache, improving boot performance.
[13:26] <LegendThinker> I dont know. I am using ubuntu from 20 days only
[13:26] <LegendThinker> TJ, That too coz of a project
[13:26] <BradenBraden> ah i see. is that a bad thing?
[13:26] <TJ-> sruli: what is it you are trying to do, precisely? prevent openvpn connections, or allow them?
[13:26] <TJ-> LegendThinker: what does "uname -r" tell you?
[13:26] <lotuspsychje> BradenBraden: well when its spamming logs with lines it cant be good
[13:26] <BradenBraden> right
[13:26] <BradenBraden> sorry for that
[13:27] <sruli> TJ-: i am trying drop all traffic when VPN disconnects
[13:28] <TJ-> sruli: from the VMs, or the host itself?
[13:28] <sruli> both
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> BradenBraden: so back to the grafix issue, re-ask here once in a while with all details you got: ubuntu version,card chipset,cpu version,driver version failed,kernel version, and your log pastes
[13:28] <TJ-> sruli: well, for the VMs, the DROP rule will need to be in the FORWARD chain. For the host itself, in the OUTPUT chain
[13:30] <lotuspsychje> BrazenBraden: also join #gamingonlinux if someone has the same card as you, working  for gaming
[13:30] <TJ-> sruli: something like "iptables -I OUTPUT 1 -s !lo -j DROP" and "iptables -I FORWARD 1 -j DROP"
[13:30] <BrazenBraden> lotuspsychje, cool, will ask around. thank you for your time :)
[13:31] <binaryplease> Hi, Where can I find ubuntu server images for arm (odroid xu4)?
[13:31] <lotuspsychje> !arm | binaryplease can this help?
[13:33] <TJ-> sruli: you may also need the same rules for IPv6 using ip6tables
[13:34] <k1l> binaryplease: ubuntu server is basically a ubuntu wihtout a desktop. but for arm you need special isos made for your device. so the general server.iso might not work.
[13:34] <TJ-> sruli: alternatively, you could use policy-based routing tables, and put the VM interfaces in a separate routing table with no default route, etc
[13:34] <binaryplease> lotuspsychje: The Odroid Xu4 isnt listed at the officially supported devices, is there any image I can use for that anyway?
[13:35] <lahaugen87> http://forum.odroid.com/viewtopic.php?f=95&t=15261
[13:35] <sruli> TJ-: ipv6 is disabled, is this the rules i should use? http://paste.ubuntu.com/14504644/
[13:35] <k1l> binaryplease: see odroid if they ship a proper image
[13:36] <lahaugen87> There is one in my link :)
[13:37] <lahaugen87> With others if you find it wont fit your need. Like Minimal Debian Jessie http://odroid.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=en:odroid-xu4
[13:37] <TJ-> sruli: on the face of it. But, can you show the output of "iptables -nvL" - just '-L' doesn't show the interface names, which is rather critical with what you are doing
[13:38] <sruli> ok, 2 min
[13:38] <binaryplease> k1l: http://odroid.com/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=en:xu3_release_linux_ubuntu the official ones are desktop images only
[13:38] <k1l> binaryplease: then install openssh-server, remove the desktop packages and you got a server
[13:39] <k1l> binaryplease: ubuntu desktop and ubuntu server share the same base install, same repos and same packages.
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> binaryplease  did you visit #ubuntu-arm
[13:41] <LegendThinker> OerHeks, anuj@anuj-HP-15-Notebook-PC:~/rtl8723be$ make clean
[13:41] <LegendThinker> make: *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.
[13:41] <LegendThinker> anuj@anuj-HP-15-Notebook-PC:~/rtl8723be$ sudo make clean
[13:41] <LegendThinker> make: *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.
[13:41] <binaryplease> k1l: okay, i'll try that. I though there might be a server image without the clutter
[13:43] <lahaugen87> binaryplease. There is in the forum thread i posted you. Direct link to the ftp here http://odroid.in/ubuntu_14.04lts/
[13:44] <sruli> TJ-: when trying to add "iptables -I OUTPUT 1 -s !lo -j DROP" i get error host/network `!lo' not found
[13:46] <TJ-> sruli: hang on, maybe it needs a space
[13:46] <TJ-> sruli: ahh yes, my mistake. instead of "-s !lo" it should be "! -s lo"
[13:47] <TJ-> sruli: those rules are saying DROP everything *but* traffic on the lo (loopback) interface
[13:48] <sruli> TJ-: same error
[13:49] <binaryplease> lahaugen87: Thank you. I just noticed the creator of the thread is 'odroid' so I'll assume that is a official and well supported image..
[13:50] <TJ-> sruli: oh darn! sorry, not "-s" at all (that is source address) but "-o" (output interface)
[13:50] <TJ-> sruli: you may want to block incoming too; in which case another 2 rules using "-i" (input interface)
[13:52] <sruli> TJ-: so "iptables -I OUTPUT 1 ! -o lo -j DROP"  ?
[13:52] <TJ-> sruli: yes. The "!" inverts the meaning of "-o lo" so every interface *except* lo is affected
[13:54] <fdsfadf> Hello everyone
[13:55] <fdsfadf> Can I change ubuntu(unity) to ubuntu(gnome)?
[13:55] <fdsfadf> I don't like Mir
[13:55] <cfhowlett> fdsfadf, no.  but you can INSTALL gnome and use it instead.
[13:55] <k1l> fdsfadf: it doesnt use MIR at all
[13:55] <fdsfadf> I want disable Mir
[13:56] <k1l> fdsfadf: dont believe the FUD.
[13:56] <k1l> fdsfadf: it uses xorg like gnome or kde or or or
[13:56] <fdsfadf> But I use it by vnc.
[13:56] <sruli> TJ-: with that rule i get no connection at all, cant even connect to VPN
[13:56] <fdsfadf> I can't connect it now by gnome and vnc
[13:57] <sruli> TJ-: output of iptables -nvL with those rules paste.ubuntu.com/14504740
[13:57] <TJ-> sruli: right. You said you wanted to drop ALL traffic. That's what it does.
[13:57] <sruli> TJ-: but i want to allow VPN
[13:59] <TJ-> sruli: if you want to allow the VPN traffic, then you can amend those rules so that instead of being INSERTed at the head of the chain (position 1) you APPEND instead. so "-I INPUT 1" becomes "-A INPUT" (no number now) - the rule will then be the *LAST* rule in the chain, so your VPN ACCEPT rules will match first.
[13:59] <TJ-> sruli: "iptables -D INPUT 1" and "iptables -D FORWARD 1" should remove those incorrect rules
[14:00] <fdsfadf> X11 over ssh . gedit
[14:00] <fdsfadf> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[14:00] <fdsfadf> ** (gedit:42506): WARNING **: Could not open X display
[14:00] <fdsfadf> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[14:00] <fdsfadf> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[14:00] <fdsfadf> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[14:00] <cfhowlett> fdsfadf, learn to paste.
[14:00] <cfhowlett> !paste
[14:01] <fdsfadf> OK
[14:08] <sruli> TJ-: i amended the rules, still the same host drops traffic VM not, here are thr rules i used and the output of iptables -nvL paste.ubuntu.com/14504791
[14:08] <nodedfree> hi, i disabled network during ubuntu server installation.. how can i enable it again?
[14:09] <Umeaboy> Hi! If I use 15.10 and I want to run a shell script and see all the things that it do, what do I type?
[14:09] <Umeaboy> bash -xv ?
[14:09] <TJ-> sruli: how is the VM connected to the host network?
[14:09] <TJ-> sruli: NAT, routing, bridged?
[14:10] <sruli> TJ-: KVM NAT
[14:12] <sruli> TJ-: my kvm network config paste.ubuntu.com/14504807
[14:12] <BluesKaj> Umeaboy, man bash in the terminal
[14:14] <TJ-> sruli: OK, so with NAT everything will pass through the 'nat' table, not 'filter' !
[14:14] <TJ-> sruli: I assumed from your examples you were configured for routing
[14:15] <TJ-> sruli: "iptables -t nat -nvL" will help us for NAT
[14:16] <sruli> TJ-: paste.ubuntu.com/14504832
[14:16] <Glorfindel> my mouse is dead
[14:17] <Glorfindel> on 14.04
[14:17] <Glorfindel> is there any way to fix other than rebooting?
[14:17] <MonkeyDust> Glorfindel  wireless mouse?
[14:17] <cfhowlett> Glorfindel, check your batteries
[14:17] <cfhowlett> clean the lens
[14:17] <Glorfindel> no
[14:17] <Glorfindel> wired
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> Glorfindel  usb, other?
[14:18] <Glorfindel> the scroll wheel doesn't work at all either
[14:18] <Glorfindel> usb
[14:18] <Glorfindel> er, no
[14:18] <Glorfindel> ps2
[14:18] <hateball> Glorfindel: reload the psmouse module
[14:18] <cfhowlett> Glorfindel, sounds like it's time to replace it.  they are cheap, you know
[14:18] <Glorfindel> hateball: how do I do that?
[14:18] <Glorfindel> cfhowlett: I don't replace stuff until it disintegrates
[14:18] <hateball> Glorfindel: sudo modprobe -r psmouse && sudo modprobe psmouse
[14:19] <huwjr> lol ps2
[14:19] <huwjr> for fuck sake
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> use your mouse to copy-paste that line
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> huwjr  mind you language
[14:20] <Glorfindel> MonkeyDust: no can do ;P
[14:20] <Glorfindel> hateball: it didn't work
[14:20] <Glorfindel> was it supposed to print anything?
[14:20] <huwjr> if you’re using PS2 still you’re old enough to hear a swear word
[14:20] <Glorfindel> huwjr: that's irrelevant
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> huwjr  ok, but keep this channel family friendly
[14:21] <hateball> Glorfindel: It's not supposed to print anything no, assuming it exits ok
[14:21] <Glorfindel> hateball: ok,mouse is still dead
[14:21] <huwjr> rgr that
[14:21] <sruli> TJ-: any ideas?
[14:22] <Glorfindel> ok, I'll do the majik reboot, brb
[14:24] <Glorfindel> it didn't work :o
[14:25] <TJ-> sruli: yes :) I was just trying to find you a good diagram to understand the paths packets can take through the kernel's netfilter layers. try this: http://blogs.longwin.com.tw/lifetype/nfk-traversal.png
[14:27] <Peaceful> Can i add repo of 15.10 to 14.04?
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> Peaceful  there's !backports
[14:27] <cfhowlett> Peaceful, mixing repos breaks things
[14:28] <TJ-> sruli: from that diagram you should be able to see that the 'nat' table POSTROUTING is the last thing done before the packets leave the system. To prevent the packets from the VM moving through the netfilter layers, you have to block them earlier. DROP rules in the 'filter' table FORWARD or INPUT chains should block them (if they match the interface)
[14:28] <sruli> TJ-: will take me sometime to understand that, i have to go now will u be able to help me set the routing on sunday? (i'll pay u $50 to help me resolve)
[14:28] <Peaceful> What is bacckports?
[14:28] <cfhowlett> !backports > Peaceful
[14:29] <Peaceful> ok
[14:29] <Peaceful> so backports has latest apps?
[14:29] <TJ-> sruli: you're not far off it now. We need to capture some packets to understand what is happening
[14:29] <cfhowlett> Peaceful, no.  only the selected packages that have been backported
[14:29] <TJ-> sruli: ping me when you're next around for this issue
[14:30] <sruli> TJ-: i have to leave now, (doctor appointment) will be back tomorrow night, thanks
[14:34] <TJ-> sruli: I'd guess you could block the NAT sub-net, with "iptables -A OUTPUT -s <IP_ADDRESS>/24 -j DROP"
[14:36] <mtilhan> Hi, I just changed hardware at one of my computers which had Ubuntu 14.04, now it gives something like "could not insert module ./pax......" etc. at tty7 and switches to tty1 automaticaly. Is there anyway to remove and apply new packages to adjust my OS to new hardware? If there is how can I find which packages to purge and which packages to install?
[14:51] <BottomNotch> I'm trying to compile glshim but it won't  work: http://paste.ubuntu.com/14505024/ any ideas?
[14:57] <linuxhp> frnds i want to create hotspot in ubuntu 14.04 .iam using leoxsys wifi ADAPTER. what to do
[14:57] <cfhowlett> !ics | linuxhp
[14:59] <linuxhp> ohh thanks i try...
[15:06] <anabain> does gnome use d-bus?
[15:07] <k1l> yes
[15:08] <decru> Hello, I'm trying to get ubuntu to use 3 monitors with 2 connected to the GPU and one to the IGP, anyone know anything about this? more details: http://pastebin.com/7S7K7w7L
[15:14] <RedDunce> hi guys. i am having a very strange issue where my notifications panel is completely missing ... no clock, wireless network, etc.
[15:14] <RedDunce> ubuntu 14.04
[15:16] <anabain> ok, kll, next one: is there a qdbus property to get the pwd of the nautilus app?
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> RedDunce  in unity-tweak-tool, start with   Panel > restore defaults
[15:23] <TJ-> anabain: I doubt a Gnome application is using the Qt Dbus application interface
[15:25] <anabain> TJ-, I doubt it too, that's why I was asking.
[15:26] <TJ-> anabain: when in doubt, check the source-code
[15:26] <anabain> TJ-, anyway, I'm using kubuntu, and I'm interested in qdbus on dolphin.
[15:28] <metame> this command keeps hanging `tar -xzgf maldetect-current.tar.gz` - any ideas what's wrong?
[15:28] <anabain> TJ-, I wonder why there's no qdbus property to get the current dir dolphin is at, sort of pwd
[15:29] <metame> the right click context menu 'extract here' works without a problem as does archive mgr
[15:29] <k1l> anabain: you can click and copy the on the path in nautils. that will print the pwd on paste
[15:30] <anabain> I need that info to use it in a bash script
[15:30] <ubuntu-mate> llo
[15:30] <bithon> hey. i see a lot of "blocked" logs in my syslog by ufw. mainly it says src=<IP_ADDRESS> (my default gateway) dst=<IP_ADDRESS>
[15:30] <TJ-> anabain: looks like it only offers 3 'launch' interfaces
[15:31] <bithon> my server was also down last night. what could that mean ?
[15:32] <TJ-> bithon: <IP_ADDRESS> is the multicast All Hosts address
[15:32] <bithon> ah. well my server was unaccesable (it's just a home server) for like 12 hours
[15:33] <anabain> TJ-, I want to identify dolphin instances that are at nfs mounts in order to kill them from a script run at the server side through ssh. This operation will be performed at the server shutdown in order to avoid client hanging.
[15:33] <bithon> i suspect it was perhaps ddos. how do i verify that? i looked at auth log and syslog
[15:33] <bithon> none of which told me much
[15:34] <bithon> ddos-ed *
[15:34] <anabain> TJ-, and I find it quite strange that, for instance, you can get the whole path of a file used in okular, and not the dolphin's pwd...
[15:36] <smellsLikeGoatSp> hello everyon, I found a like that seems to explain how to create a live usb with linux OS. I would like to install Ubuntu 10.04. Do you reckon that would work? also anyone knows of a software to use to do this with Ubuntu instead that using Windows?https://heshambahram.wordpress.com/2010/05/05/live-usb-with-ubuntu-10-04-lts/
[15:37] <TJ-> anabain: I guess the expectation is that if you're using Dbus, you launched the process, so should know the pwd
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> smellsLikeGoatSp  10.04 is dead, use 14.04 instead
[15:38] <MonkeyDust> use/install*
[15:38] <smellsLikeGoatSp> MonkeyDust, I need kernel 2.x . would it work regardless of the support?
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> smellsLikeGoatSp  can't say, you'd be using a corpse
[15:39] <smellsLikeGoatSp> MonkeyDust, if it is a corpse I need
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> smellsLikeGoatSp  good luck then, but you can't ask for help or support here
[15:41] <smellsLikeGoatSp> MonkeyDust, I would imagine the same questions hold though. like, what program can I use on Ubuntu 14.04 to prepare a live usb?
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> smellsLikeGoatSp  14.04 has unetbootin and disk creator, but i'm not sure if 10.04 has those
[15:42] <TJ-> smellsLikeGoatSp: our ISO images are hybrid bootable so simply doing a raw copy of the .iso file to the USB device is all that is required - generally using 'dd' or 'cp'
[15:44] <smellsLikeGoatSp> TJ-, super! thank you! I know how to use 'dd' . cheers
[15:44] <smellsLikeGoatSp> MonkeyDust, I am using 14.04 to prepare the pen drive. all sorted now anyway. thanks
[15:45] <MonkeyDust> smellsLikeGoatSp  glad you did find advice here afterall ... linux = more than 1 solution for anything
[15:47] <Bomber4Chats> question
[15:47] <Bomber4Chats> If my personal computer is a ubuntu machine, can I run a local docker container without messing with my local system?
[15:47] <Bomber4Chats> all web guides talk about installing and running dockers on remote machines
[15:47] <Bomber4Chats> (remote/cloud machines)
[15:47] <k1l> Bomber4Chats: docker on own machine is fine.
[15:48] <Bomber4Chats> k
[15:48] <MonkeyDust> Bomber4Chats  this my irssi is running inside an lxc container (for fun, on my local machine)
[15:48] <Bomber4Chats> and you can step out of it if you wanted to?
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> Bomber4Chats  yeah sure, depending on how i connected ... now it's whith ssh, i end the session with ctrl-d
[15:49] <Bomber4Chats> right
[15:49] <Bomber4Chats> all I want to make sure is that my docker doesn't take over my system ^_^
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> "what are you doing dave?"
[15:50] <chrustler> Trying to test out Ubuntu Touch on a x86 tablet... but not finding what I "think" is a proper live-iso (http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/)
[15:50] <ash_workz> does anyone have any thoughts on commenting out linux kernel lines in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove ?
[15:50] <ash_workz> like, bad idea?
[15:51] <ash_workz> actually, does apt-get autoremove clear kernels for anyone in here?
[15:51] <doomwhisp> Are "WebUpd8 PPA" and "Medibuntu" trustable additional repos for Ubuntu?
[15:51] <ash_workz> unused linux kernels that is
[15:53] <TJ-> ash_workz: yes, autoremove will remove kernels that are no longer the subject of a Depends: declaration in some meta package
[15:53] <ash_workz> cause if it does, can you do me a favor and check /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove to see if "linux-image" is present under VersionedKernelPackages ?
[15:53] <TJ-> ash_workz: it should be; it's a versioned package
[15:57] <aq2> is there an easy way to upgrade to 4.x kernel on my ubuntu mate 14.04?
[15:59] <k1l> aq2: there is a 4.x kernel (the backports from 15.10) in the repos already. its the test-kernel for the hardware enablement stack that will be published when 14.04.4 will be released
[15:59] <aq2> k1l: how can i install it?
[15:59] <k1l> aq2: install the kernel package from the repo
[16:00] <aq2> also, i'd like a kernel thats not something i need to upgrade again soon
[16:00] <aq2> do i need to install a software manager or can i apt-get install something?
[16:00] <lahaugen87> If that the only reason you get 16.04 LTS soon, soming with Kernel 4.4
[16:01] <lahaugen87> I'd just stick with current stable if unless you have a specific reason to change
[16:01] <aq2> i will get that when the mate version is released
[16:01] <k1l> aq2: its in the official ubuntu repos already. so every program that works with the official repos can install that
[16:02] <aq2> k1l: can you tell me the name of the package? also, can i just choose advanced options in grub to go back to the old kernel?
[16:04] <k1l> aq2: linux-generic-lts-wily
[16:04] <metame> any ideas on why tar isn't working?
[16:04] <aq2> nice thanks :)
[16:04] <aq2> how about loading the old kernel with grub?
[16:05] <k1l> aq2: yes
[16:05] <aq2> nice :)
[16:06] <ash_workz> TJ-: and that group ignores such packages?
[16:06] <k1l> Bomber4Chats: see https://blog.jessfraz.com/post/docker-containers-on-the-desktop/
[16:07] <ash_workz> TJ-: I mean, anything listed under VersionedKernelPackages {} will be ignored by apt-get autoremove?
[16:07] <Bomber4Chats> k1l: thanks, looking now
[16:07] <ash_workz> TJ-: or it will *only* be ignored if the package has dependencies?
[16:07] <lahaugen87> metame, what do you mean?
[16:07] <Bomber4Chats> ohhhh
[16:07] <Bomber4Chats> irrsi, cool
[16:07] <Bomber4Chats> MonkeyDust: should I use irssi instead of quassel?
[16:08] <ash_workz> TJ-: and if /that's/ the case, then does that mean the reason why apt-get autoremove doesn't remove my old kernels is because there are dependencies on it?
[16:08] <k1l> Bomber4Chats: that is more a matter of workflow and own taste
[16:08] <ash_workz> TJ-: do you not have an issue with this too?
[16:08] <aq2> ahright time to reboot and see how the new kernel works :)
[16:08] <aq2> alright
[16:09] <metame> posted q earlier: `tar -xvgf file.tar.gz` is just hanging for me
[16:09] <metame> I can extract by other means but not cli command
[16:09] <metame> lahaugen87: ^
[16:09] <FedoraUser> my dlm has wrong init script and is trying to use wrong device path (/dev/misc/dlm-control instead of /dev/dlm-control)
[16:10] <Bomber4Chats> k1l: so, my system hasn't gone crazy yet, so I'm OK with docker :)
[16:10] <Bomber4Chats> and thanks for the links! I'll know what to search for in the future :)
[16:10] <metame> ah... figured it out.  didn't need the g
[16:16] <ash_workz> can anyone confirm or deny my previous questions?
[16:16] <lotuspsychje> ash_workz: better re-ask your issue here once in a while
[16:16] <ubuntu293> Hello i am trying to update openssh but i have errors any one know how to fix them ? http://pastebin.com/xAtyMj5A
[16:17] <TJ-> ash_workz: no, I think you misunderstand. "NeverAutoRemove" is the stanza that *protects* packages from removal. The list of protected versioned packages is in "01autoremove-kernels" which is re-generated after each kernel install by the script /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal
[16:17] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu293: have you added ppa's of any kind?
[16:17] <ubuntu293> lotuspsychje: i don't thing so
[16:17] <ubuntu293> is there a way to check ?
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> !sources | ubuntu293 check here
[16:18] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu293: wich ubuntu version you havin?
[16:19] <ubuntu293> i am having a server editon
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu293: wich version please
[16:19] <ubuntu293> okay let me check just need to find the command that will show me
[16:19] <bramgn> ubuntu293: lsb_release -r or cat /etc/issue
[16:20] <ubuntu293> Release:        14.04
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> !info openssh-server trusty
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu293: seems like right version you having
[16:21] <OerHeks> why dpkg manually?
[16:21] <ubuntu293> hmm
[16:21] <TJ-> ubuntu293: "Operation not permitted" suggests you've got file attributes set. do "getfacl /usr/sbin/sshd"
[16:21] <ubuntu293> okay
[16:21] <ubuntu293> let me install getfacl
[16:21] <ash_workz> TJ-: I'm afraid you're right and I still don't fully understand. I'm going to re-read what you said though