[00:00] <EriC^^> hmm, is there a list of devices?
[00:00] <in_deep_thought> sda1 sda2, sda5 sdb1 sdb2
[00:00] <in_deep_thought> assemble raid array
[00:00] <in_deep_thought> don’t use a root file system
[00:00] <in_deep_thought> I think I chose /dev/sda1 last time
[00:01] <EriC^^> does it say the size of the partitions?
[00:01] <EriC^^> are you at a prompt?
[00:01] <in_deep_thought> no
[00:01] <in_deep_thought> no, its a menu list thing. like a purple screen with one of the white menus
[00:01] <EriC^^> can you drop to a shell?
[00:01] <in_deep_thought> um maybe. how would I?
[00:02] <EriC^^> try sda2
[00:02] <in_deep_thought> sda is usually the hard drive? and sdb is the flash drive?
[00:02] <in_deep_thought> ok ill try sda2
[00:02] <EriC^^> yeah
[00:03] <in_deep_thought> “An error occured while mounting the device you entered. on /target. please check syslog
[00:03] <in_deep_thought> that didn’t happen with sda1
[00:03] <EriC^^> one is going to be your root partition, one your swap and one i dont know an efi partition maybe or /boot
[00:03] <EriC^^> what happened with sda1?
[00:03] <in_deep_thought> umm pretty much looked like everything worked, it restarted and the same issue happened
[00:03] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: ok, great so you're at prompt right now?
[00:04] <in_deep_thought> EriC^^: no, it took me back to ubuntu installer main menu, with all the steps listed
[00:04] <in_deep_thought> I can choose from them
[00:04] <in_deep_thought> ohh theres execute a shell down there
[00:04] <in_deep_thought> should I try it?
[00:04] <EriC^^> cool
[00:04] <EriC^^> yeah
[00:04] <in_deep_thought> ok
[00:04] <in_deep_thought> what do i  enter?
[00:04] <EriC^^> parted -l
[00:05] <EriC^^> what does it say next to partition table? msdos/gpt?
[00:05] <in_deep_thought> gives: Disk /dev/sda: 500gb.
[00:05] <in_deep_thought> and warning: /dev/sdb contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table
[00:06] <in_deep_thought> however, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should
[00:06] <in_deep_thought> Is this a GPT partition table? yes/no?
[00:06] <in_deep_thought> idk. is it?
[00:06] <EriC^^> press no
[00:06] <EriC^^> that's the flash drive right?
[00:06] <EriC^^> the hdd is 500gb?
[00:07] <in_deep_thought> yeah the flash drive must be sdb then
[00:07] <in_deep_thought> so no just took me back to the prompt
[00:08] <EriC^^> ok, so what was the partition table of sda?
[00:08] <Prezident> in_deep_thought: have you changed your bios order?
[00:08] <in_deep_thought> Prezident: if I did, it was unintentional
[00:08] <in_deep_thought> EriC^^: you mean what type? Can I check that from the shell?
[00:08] <Prezident> What do you mean ?
[00:08] <EriC^^> it should be listed in parted -l
[00:09] <in_deep_thought> EriC^^: its partition table: msdos. 1 is primary ext4 boot
[00:09] <Prezident> Alright if you did that, and you cant boot, are you in grub menu ?
[00:09] <in_deep_thought> 2 is extended
[00:09] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: ok, great
[00:09] <timvisher> daftykins: so that's a no? :)
[00:09] <in_deep_thought> Prezident: no I am in the ubuntu installer shell
[00:10] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: so there's only sda1 and sda2?
[00:10] <Prezident> Alright i havent been with you from first line, im pro in such things. Whats the result when you trying to boot from first harddrive when usb is unplugged?
[00:11] <Prezident> Go to /etc/fstab and see where boot gets mounted
[00:11] <Prezident> nano /etc/fstab for example.
[00:11] <EriC^^> Prezident: he's in the live usb
[00:11] <in_deep_thought> EriC^^: it doesn’t really say sdb. IT mentions Disk /dev/sda:500gb and lists 1, 2, and 5. And then the warning for /sdb. but it doesn’t really give info on it
[00:11] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: ok, what's sda5?
[00:11] <in_deep_thought> logical linux swap
[00:11] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: ok great
[00:12] <EriC^^> now i need you to focus only on me
[00:12] <EriC^^> lol
[00:12] <in_deep_thought> lol you got it
[00:12] <daftykins> timvisher: did it work?
[00:12] <EriC^^> type mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[00:14] <in_deep_thought> EriC^^: mounting /dev/sda2 on /mnt failed; Invalid argument
[00:15] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: hmm, type ls
[00:15] <in_deep_thought> gives all the normal: bin etc lib mnt root sys usr etc
[00:15] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: is the file system all there? /dev /mnt /sys etc. ?
[00:15] <in_deep_thought> yeah
[00:16] <Prezident> isnt ubuntu using /boot for grub?
[00:17] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: do you have another live usb by any chance?
[00:17] <EriC^^> nevermind
[00:18] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: ok, great
[00:18] <EriC^^> is there a /dev directory?
[00:18] <in_deep_thought> yea
[00:18] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: ok try mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[00:19] <EriC^^> ( is there a /mnt directory btw? )
[00:19] <in_deep_thought> that looked good. No invalid argument error at least
[00:19] <EriC^^> ok type ls /mnt
[00:19] <EriC^^> what's in there??
[00:19] <Prezident> Wich bootloader did you use?
[00:19] <in_deep_thought> seems like pretty much all of the same stuff.
[00:19] <Prezident> Since it seems you not having any bootloader installed.
[00:20] <in_deep_thought> dev, mnt, sys, usr
[00:20] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: you mean /bin /lib etc ?
[00:20] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: ok, great
[00:20] <in_deep_thought> yeah those too
[00:20] <EriC^^> type for i in /dev /dev/pts /sys /proc /run; do mount -B $i /mnt$i; done
[00:23] <in_deep_thought> EriC^^: gives a lot of stuff. mostly “mount invalid option -B
[00:23] <in_deep_thought> over and over again
[00:23] <in_deep_thought> did I type it wrong?
[00:23] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: try mount --bind
[00:24] <in_deep_thought> EriC^^: rootfs on / type rootfs, non on /run type tmpfs, none on /proc type proc some other ones, /dev/sdb1 on /cdrom type iso, /dev/sda1 on /mnt type ext4
[00:25] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: i mean the whole for i.... command
[00:25] <EriC^^> with mount --bind
[00:25] <Neldogz> Anyone here experience mounting issues when booting? For example I am seeing the following message for one of my data disks that are fake raided: "The disk drive for /media/user1/data1 is not ready yet or not present.
[00:25] <EriC^^> for i in /dev /dev/pts /sys /proc /run; do mount --bind $i /mnt$i; done
[00:25] <bryceray1121> How can I get supervisor to automatically startup on boot? I'm surprised it does not already do this.
[00:26] <bekks> bryceray1121: Which kind of supervisor?
[00:26] <bryceray1121> supervisor/supervisord
[00:27] <in_deep_thought> EriC^^: maybe that worked. no output though
[00:27] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: great
[00:27] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: type chroot /mnt
[00:27] <in_deep_thought> ok
[00:28] <EriC^^> ok, type grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[00:28] <in_deep_thought> whoo. Installation finished. no errors reported
[00:29] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: ok, type update-grub
[00:29] <in_deep_thought> done
[00:29] <EriC^^> ok did it mention Found Linux .....
[00:30] <in_deep_thought> yeah found linux image :/boot/vmlinuz-1…….-generic
[00:30] <EriC^^> ok, type exit
[00:30] <in_deep_thought> ok
[00:30] <EriC^^> type reboot
[00:30] <PSGroup84> How to represent the first argument in tcsh?
[00:31] <in_deep_thought> yes. my grub boot menu shows up!
[00:31] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: great!
[00:31] <in_deep_thought> nonow just Install ubuntu? or rescue a broken system? And is this on the hard drive or still on my flash drive?
[00:31] <in_deep_thought> should I remove that?
[00:32] <EriC^^> what?
[00:32] <EriC^^> O.o
[00:32] <barry0bama> can someone help me debug why i've lost internet?
[00:32] <barry0bama> i'm pretty sure the problem started after a suspend
[00:33] <PSGroup84> How to represent the first argument in tcsh?
[00:33] <barry0bama> and it seems to be both wireless and wired
[00:33] <in_deep_thought> EriC^^: I mean which of the options do I choose? Install ubuntu I guess?
[00:33] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: it should already be installed
[00:33] <in_deep_thought> I thought it was already installed and we were repairing it?
[00:33] <whodevil> hello, I just installed ubuntu 14.04, I'm a little confused, it seems like upstart and systemd are both installed, but not systemctl. Are they both running? I'm confused
[00:33] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: did you try to remove the usb and boot?
[00:34] <in_deep_thought> no, maybe I should remove the disk
[00:34] <EriC^^> ok
[00:34] <pavlos> PSGroup84, argv[1]
[00:35] <Neldogz> Anyone here experience mounting issues when booting? For example I am seeing the following message for one of my data disks that are fake raided: "The disk drive for /media/user1/data1 is not ready yet or not present.
[00:35] <pavlos> PSGroup84, actually $argv[1]
[00:35] <Bashing-om> whodevil: 14.04 is upstart, though there are some systemD elements that have been intoduced into 14.04 .
[00:36] <PSGroup84> pavlos: can I do the command, echo $argv[1]?
[00:36] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: any luck?
[00:36] <timvisher> daftykins: it did
[00:36] <timvisher> thank you
[00:36] <in_deep_thought> EriC^^: ok I removed the USB, and rebooted and “no bootable devices found”
[00:37] <in_deep_thought> I think I missed a step
[00:37] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: ok, check the boot order in the bios
[00:37] <PSGroup84> pavlos: can I do the command, echo $argv[1]?
[00:38] <whodevil> Bashing-om: so can I run systemd services in 14.04?
[00:38] <piter-de-vries> the boot from USB was solid advice
[00:38] <pavlos> PSGroup84, yes, you should be able to do that ... looking online for examples
[00:39] <PSGroup84> pavlos: I should use $argv[1] instead of $1?
[00:39] <pavlos> PSGroup84, correct
[00:40] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: any luck?
[00:40] <in_deep_thought> EriC^^: wait how do I do that again? I am in the bios menu,
[00:40] <in_deep_thought> it just says “ubuntu” and the box is checked
[00:40] <Bashing-om> whodevil: NO, if you want to run systemD services ya want 15.04 or better and talk in #uibuntu+1 . SystemD os scheduled for 16.04 /
[00:41] <EriC^^> is there a boot options menu with a list of devices?
[00:41] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: make sure legacy is selected and not EFI
[00:41] <EriC^^> *UEFI
[00:41] <The> Hello everybody! I need a registration code (because I am a new user at linuxmint.community.com!
[00:41] <EriC^^> that sounds a lot like UEFI
[00:41] <daftykins> !mint | The Mint is not an on-topic distro here.
[00:41] <in_deep_thought> EriC^^: this screen looks weird. its a GUI, not the typical bio screen. Does that make senes?
[00:41] <whodevil> Bashing-om: oh I see, ok. I don't really want to get off of LTS, so I guess I'll just wait. :)
[00:41] <in_deep_thought> like I can point and click
[00:41] <whodevil> Bashing-om: thanks!
[00:42] <in_deep_thought> but its named the bios menu
[00:42] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: that's pretty unusual ( to me )
[00:42] <daftykins> in_deep_thought: it's called an EFI
[00:42] <in_deep_thought> ok yeah I think thats wrong
[00:42] <The> so how do i get a registration code?
[00:42] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: is there anything mentioning UEFI or legacy?
[00:42] <Bashing-om> whodevil: :-) , we are all waiting to see how systemD flys for us .
[00:42] <daftykins> The: like i just said, Linux Mint is NOT on topic here. go ask THEM in their channel, on irc.spotchat.org
[00:43] <in_deep_thought> EriC^^: yeah ok when I hold f12, it takes me to the “one time boot menu”. Then I have options of legacy boot, uefi boot (under which ubuntu is the only option)
[00:43] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: ok, try the legacy boot
[00:43] <in_deep_thought> legacy boot has the cd rom drive, and it used to have the usb stick before I unplugged it
[00:43] <in_deep_thought> which one?
[00:43] <Neldogz> Anyone here experience mounting issues when booting? For example I am seeing the following message for one of my data disks that are fake raided: "The disk drive for /media/user1/data1 is not ready yet or not present.
[00:43] <in_deep_thought> WDC WD500AAKX
[00:43] <in_deep_thought> ?
[00:44] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: ok, are you able to enter the bios setup and select legacy mode? or CSM?
[00:44] <PSGroup84> pavlos; after the command, echo $argv[1], I saw the output, argv: Subscript out of range.
[00:44] <in_deep_thought> EriC^^: ok entering the BIOS setup (word for word) takes me to that weird GUI
[00:45] <EriC^^> PSGroup84: try argv[0]
[00:45] <in_deep_thought> EriC^^: oh it was UEFI, ok Im changing it to Legacy
[00:45] <EriC^^> ok
[00:45] <pavlos> PSGroup84, $argv[0] should be the command and from then on, the positional parameters. I dont have tsch to test
[00:45] <in_deep_thought> which has the hard drive, diskette drive usb storage
[00:45] <in_deep_thought> etc
[00:46] <Neldogz> nobody eh...
[00:46] <in_deep_thought> Neldogz: I am definitely having issues of that sort I think but I don’t know enough to help you or even tell you if its remotely related.
[00:46] <in_deep_thought> I know that can’t possibly help
[00:47] <Neldogz> in_deep_thought, thanks for the response. I will dig around some more in the forums, if i find anything I will share
[00:47] <The> THANX MINTBOTD!
[00:49] <in_deep_thought> EriC^^ ok ok ok this looks good. from the grub menu, I can boot ubuntu in recovery mode or generic ubuntu
[00:49] <in_deep_thought> whoo. desktop!
[00:50] <PSGroup84> pavlos: echo $argv[0] does not out the first parameter it outputs an empty string instead. Please help!
[00:50] <funhouse> Hi guys, just set a web server, the user for nginx is www-data but the user I ssh with is ubuntu, how can I allow ubuntu to create files inside a folder owned by www-data?
[00:51] <pavlos> PSGroup84, sorry ... as I said I dont have tcsh to test
[00:52] <reisio> funhouse: chown, groups, etc., yadda
[00:52] <PSGroup84> echo $argv[0] does not out the first parameter it outputs an empty string instead. Any hints, anyone?
[00:52] <reisio> !ops TransAIDS pm spam
[00:52] <reisio> no chance of that
[00:53] <funhouse> reisio: Ok I did this --> sudo chown -R ubuntu:www-data /var/www
[00:53] <funhouse> reisio: but, I want the file to be owned by www-data, does it even matter really?
[00:54] <bekks> funhouse: Yes. Configured correctly/securly your webserver will refuse to operate on file not owned by the webserver.
[00:55] <funhouse> bekks: so basically I need to login as the www-data user?
[00:55] <funhouse> or just get a script to change ownership?
[00:55] <PSGroup84> [16:52] <PSGroup84> echo $argv[0] does not out the first parameter it outputs an empty string instead. Any hints, anyone?
[00:55] <funhouse> Because changing owners all the time is annoying as hell
[00:55] <bekks> funhouse: Which is even more insecure, and not possible :) Add your user to the www-data group.
[00:55] <funhouse> bekks: ok
[00:56] <funhouse> bekks: how do you add the user to the www-data group?
[00:57] <funhouse> bekks: sudo chown -R ubuntu:www-data /var/www ?
[00:57] <bekks> funhouse: No.
[00:57] <bekks> funhouse: Thats changing the owner, and not adding your user to the www-data group.
[00:58] <Neldogz> in_deep_thought, check out this article
[00:58] <Neldogz> http://askubuntu.com/questions/59475/how-do-i-automount-a-fake-raid
[00:58] <PSGroup84> echo $argv[0] does not out the first parameter it outputs an empty string instead.Please help!
[00:58] <andrei> why my ubuntu keeps crashing on 14.04 LTS with nvidia gpu drivers ?
[00:58] <Neldogz> andrei,  how did you install the nvidia drivers?
[00:58] <funhouse> useradd -G Group-name Username
[00:59] <funhouse> bekks: useradd -G Group-name Username ?
[00:59] <andrei> from their website. in terminal
[00:59] <barry0bama> can someone here help me troubleshoot a dell inspiron 5000 on ubuntu 14 that can't connect to internet after suspend?
[00:59] <andrei> i`m new in ubuntu, so yeah..
[00:59] <bekks> funhouse: yeah.
[01:00] <bekks> funhouse: Or just adduser username www
[01:00] <funhouse> reisio and bekks thank you
[01:00] <funhouse> bekks: ok
[01:00] <Neldogz> andrei, I haven't had much luck with the proprietary drivers from Nvidia's site
[01:00] <andrei> what can I do ?
[01:00] <Neldogz> andrei, i recommend installing the Nvidia drivers from the additional drivers application within ubuntu
[01:01] <reisio> !ops TransAIDS still pm spamming
[01:01] <reisio> no chance of that
[01:01] <andrei> thanks Neldogz :)
[01:01] <Neldogz> andrei, remove the drivers and install the supported drivers from additional drivers
[01:01] <Neldogz> i think you can simply add --uninstall to the end of the Nvidia script package
[01:01] <andrei> ok
[01:01] <Neldogz> it should uninstall the drivers and recover your x conf file
[01:02] <daftykins> andrei: which card is this?
[01:02] <daftykins> or hardware
[01:02] <andrei> daftykins, nvidia geforce gtx760
[01:03] <PSGroup84> echo $argv[0] does not out the first parameter it outputs an empty string instead. Any hints?
[01:03] <daftykins> alright, probably supported by drivers in the default repos then
[01:03] <Bashing-om> andrei: Try : sudo nvidia-installer --uninstall  # this may return not found, but do it just in case it is there.
[01:03] <andrei> ok
[01:04] <Neldogz> sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-346.35.run --uninstall should work
[01:04] <Neldogz> run this as root
[01:04] <fresse> how do I bind a key to mouse click with a primitive command or something in X
[01:04] <andrei> I entered the aditional drivers menu and looks to me that i`m using NVIDIA Binary Driver (tested)
[01:04] <fresse> does unity support this
[01:04] <andrei> :-?
[01:05] <Neldogz> andrei, when you say that Ubuntu crashes.. what do you see that is happening?
[01:05] <EriC^^> in_deep_thought: great!
[01:06] <andrei> neldogz, my screen crashes, it just stays how is it, but if I am on TeamSpeak3 or if I listen music on YouTube, I can hear voice/music.
[01:06] <andrei> i belive it`s a unity crash
[01:07] <in_deep_thought> ok question 2. Should I have to install graphics cards via the disk they come in? or is there some kind of apt-get fetching that i should do instead?
[01:07] <Neldogz> andrei, yes that is definitely a graphics driver issue for sure
[01:07] <Neldogz> andrei, i still recommend removing the proprietary driver completely and simply installing the one that you see from the Additional Drivers menu
[01:08] <andrei> i think that i have installed the proprietary driver from nvidia website and the one in the Additional Drivers
[01:09] <daftykins> in_deep_thought: yes drivers are in packages in ubuntu land, not even on Windows does a competent IT person _ever_ use the discs
[01:09] <reisio> !ops TransAIDS still pm spamming
[01:09] <reisio> no chance of that
[01:09] <in_deep_thought> daftykins: gotcha
[01:09] <fresse> is it against the rules if what he says scientifically makes sense ?
[01:10] <daftykins> fresse: just don't
[01:13] <fresse> sorry I didn't see where he stated that it was mental disorder, that's quite racist. I'm against that
[01:14] <Ranieri_> I missed this...
[01:14] <falieson> I've been trying to setup a haproxy / monit / delegated (https://gist.github.com/brutuscat/2519840) service to route my host traffic through, but I'm not sure what I'm doing
[01:15] <reisio> fresse: mentality isn't a race
[01:15] <reisio> also there is only one extant race of human
[01:16] <falieson> is there another command line style chroot/jail thing I should use instead of docker? A friend was saying that for each process/service I should setup a new docker so rather than setting up that link in a single docker I should create like 8 dockers (4 for 4 tors, etc.)
[01:16] <reisio> although it's true 'ethnicicist' is a mouthful
[01:16] <falieson> is there another method I should use to accomplish this?
[01:16] <reisio> falieson: mmm, depends on what you're up to
[01:16] <falieson> scraping and don't want to get IP blocked
[01:17] <reisio> docker won't help you with that
[01:17] <reisio> only a proxy will
[01:17] <reisio> insofar as a proxy is expendable
[01:19] <falieson> right...
[01:19] <falieson> reisio, tor connections are expandable too
[01:19] <falieson> haproxy can load balance them
[01:20] <Ben64> still has nothing to do with docker
[01:20] <falieson> fine with me
[01:20] <reisio> bazhang: would you do something about this TransAIDS dude? :p
[01:20] <falieson> how'd you set it up? I don't want to install on my host because I don't want to reformat my host if I mess up setting it up
[01:20] <reisio> install what?
[01:20] <Ben64> reisio: they tend to not do stuff about PM
[01:20] <midnightmagic> TransAIDS is spamming PM.
[01:21] <reisio> Ben64: that's their problem
[01:21] <falieson> a proxy that rotates tor connections
[01:21] <reisio> falieson: tor is also not going to help you
[01:21] <Ben64> reisio: maybe ask #freenode? pm is a network issue i suppose
[01:21] <reisio> falieson: what you want is a proxy or two
[01:21] <reisio> Ben64: I just asked bazhang
[01:22] <falieson> reisio, i think i'm missing something in your response
[01:22] <Myrtti> hm?
[01:22] <reisio> falieson: you simply need any OS on a network other than yours
[01:23] <reisio> one that doesn't mind you getting an ip of their's temporarily banned
[01:23] <JoccE> Anyone good with sed commands?
[01:24] <reisio> some people are, yes
[01:24] <Jocce91> Anyone who could help me out?
[01:24] <Ben64> Jocce91: ask your real question and find out
[01:24] <Jocce91> ;)?
[01:24] <falieson> reisio, a paid proxy service made for scraping costs $1000/1M get-requests, way too expensive for my blood. Paying $20/month will get me 10IPs and 10GB
[01:24] <falieson> why can't I rotate tor IPs?
[01:25] <Jocce91> I need to replace the string "LIBS = -lmysqlclient -lboost_date_time -lboost_system -lboost_regex -lboost_thread -lgmp  -lxml2" in a file to something else and cant figure it out
[01:25] <reisio> it won't save you time, and people who use tor to protect _their lives_ will hate you for it
[01:25] <reisio> falieson: if you simply put a delay in your scraping requests, you probably will be fine
[01:25] <ianorlin> how is tor help ubuntu support?
[01:25] <daftykins> Jocce91: #bash might help
[01:26] <Jocce91> Ah will try :P
[01:26] <Jocce91> Thanks
[01:26] <falieson> ianorlin, not tor help, deciding how to setup a service on ubuntu
[01:26] <reisio> ianorlin: dunno, how?
[01:26] <ianorlin> that is why I was asking
[01:27] <reisio> doesn't seem like the answer would be useful
[01:28] <iq> Hi
[01:28] <reisio> hi iq
[01:28] <falieson> !report Transaids
[01:32] <in_deep_thought> daftykins: are there instructions for finding the repo to get on somewhere on the ubuntu wiki?
[01:32] <daftykins> you don't need another repo
[01:32] <daftykins> in_deep_thought: what graphics card is this?
[01:33] <in_deep_thought> nvidia geforce gtx 970
[01:33] <daftykins> in_deep_thought: ah in that case you probably do need to add the xorg-edgers PPA and install the nvidia drivers from them, *or* download the latest nvidia drivers from their website and install those
[01:37] <PSGroup84> echo $argv[0] does not out the first parameter it outputs an empty string instead. Please help!
[01:42] <daftykins> PSGroup84: go ask #bash
[01:43] <in_deep_thought> daftykins: after I set up the xorg-edgers ppa, how do I know which package to install for my card?
[01:45] <in_deep_thought> when I try sudo apt-get update, I get: An error occured during the sigature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used
[01:46] <in_deep_thought> but it never actually says anything about that xorg-edgers ppa thing
[01:47] <cenobite_> will ubuntu 15.04 be a LTS edition when its officially released?
[01:47] <daftykins> in_deep_thought: did you follow the advice on their repo page on how to install it and import their key?
[01:47] <Ben64> cenobite_: no
[01:47] <daftykins> cenobite_: no
[01:48] <ianorlin> no
[01:49] <ianorlin> LTS is every 2 years
[01:49] <cenobite_> I thought it was 5 yrs :O
[01:49] <daftykins> that's how long they're supported for
[01:49] <ianorlin> no you get 5 years of support but they come out every 2 years
[01:50] <cenobite_> ok thank-you _Druid_
[01:50] <SimplySeth> greetings! .... does someone know of a freeipa server alternative for Ubuntu 14.04LTS?
[01:50] <daftykins> free indian pale ale?
[01:51] <cenobite_> I know theres JLime for the hp Jornada, but has ubuntu made a distro for it yet?
[01:51] <reisio> daftykins: yes plz
[01:51] <daftykins> pretty sure we mostly focus on non-museum pieces :)
[01:52] <cenobite_> lol
[01:52] <cenobite_> I know its old, but its nice to take to coffee shops
[01:52] <SimplySeth> http://www.freeipa.org/
[01:56] <reisio> nobody puts ipa in a corner
[01:56] <daftykins> not fond of the after-taste myself
[01:56] <azizLIGHT> how do i measure my usage of pc today?
[01:57] <azizLIGHT> ie: time i was logged in and doing stuff
[01:57] <azizLIGHT> duration i mean
[01:58] <in_deep_thought> daftykins: isn’t this the site? I can’t find anything about an xorg-edgers key
[01:58] <SimplySeth> I see 389 server instructions for Ubuntu ... that's hopeful
[01:58] <reisio> daftykins: it's not my favorite, but it adds to the variety
[01:59] <reisio> you can do some great things with ipa and citrus, or ipa and peppers, if you want a different taste
[02:00] <dupingping> How to get window's full image in compiz plugin?
[02:00] <reisio> dupingping: hrm?
[02:01] <dupingping> reisio, compiz have opengl plugin
[02:01] <IRCisodd> what does one do with IRC?
[02:01] <reisio> IRCisodd: murder time
[02:02] <IRCisodd> I see.
[02:02] <daftykins> in_deep_thought: "this the site" ? you didn't link anything
[02:02] <in_deep_thought> daftykins: ah my apologies. https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[02:03] <PSGroup84> The file name is test.csh it contains two lines: 1) #!/bin/tcsh -e 2)echo $1.I ran the command, source test.csh abc. I do not see abc as output. I run the file on ubuntu.
[02:03] <daftykins> in_deep_thought: yeah did you click the green arrow beside "Technical details about this PPA" underneath "Adding this PPA to your system" and follow the guide on how to add it, or?
[02:04] <daftykins> PSGroup84: non-standard shell huh, perhaps you should find a channel for that
[02:04] <EriC^^> PSGroup84: try tcsh test.csh abc
[02:04] <Bashing-om> PSGroup84: " #!/bin/tcsh -e  " is tcsh your 'shell' ??
[02:04] <in_deep_thought> daftykins: oh nope. I guess thats what I was looking for
[02:06] <drakedouay> If I remove the password to my key ring, will that allow other users to see my passwords? I have an encrypted home folder by the way, in case that changes the answer
[02:08] <PSGroup84> Bashing-om: I did the command, echo $SHELL and see /bin/csh
[02:11] <PSGroup84> EriC^^: I tried, tcsh test.csh abc and see tcsh:Command not found.
[02:12] <EriC^^> try csh
[02:12] <kkerwin> Hi. I'm having some difficulty with "crackly" sounds in PulseAudio. I've tried a couple of How-Tos, as well as asking in #pulseaudio, both w/o success.
[02:17] <Bashing-om> PSGroup84: ^^; is the shell interpreter 'tcsh' installed ? ls -al /bin/tcsh ? ( not standard in ununtu) .
[02:18] <gmcinnes> Hi guys. I have a self packaged .deb that is hosted in a repo, but it seems to want to be upgraded every time I run apt-get install my_package. Once it's at the newest version, it should tell me that.
[02:19] <dingus1> hey, I installed systemback on 14.10 and when I run it from an xterm it shows: "illegal instruction (core dumped)
[02:20] <ianorlin> !info systemback
[02:20] <dingus1> ppa?
[02:21] <daftykins> we don't support PPAs
[02:21] <daftykins> nor the software from them
[02:22] <dupingping> How to get window's full image in compiz plugin?
[02:23] <pavlos> PSGroup84, I installed tcsh ... created file bob with #!/bin/tcsh   echo $1   execute . ./bob one and the output was one
[02:26] <supay> any idea why teamviewer-ing to ubuntu running teamviewer gets so laggy?
[02:27] <EriC^^> *burp*
[02:28] <OerHeks> supay, maybe the reason why teamviewer is not in the repos
[02:29] <Ben64> supay: didn't i suggest you use vnc instead last night
[02:29] <supay> OerHeks: any alternative that provides the same functionality?
[02:29] <supay> Ben64: yep, i tried that.. but it wasn't connecting. :/
[02:29] <supay> maybe i needed a static ip or something?
[02:29] <Ben64> no
[02:29] <OerHeks> nope, no :80 solution that i know.
[02:29] <supay> firewall issues maybe?
[02:30] <c0d4041292> hey everyone! Just installed BackBox and XChat!! So this is my first time on IRC! any cool tips or tricks in a link would be cool.
[02:30] <Ben64> how would i know about your firewall setup, use nmap to verify ports are open
[02:30] <supay> c0d4041292: do do what?
[02:30] <supay> Ben64: sorry, just thinking out loud. i'll run nmap
[02:30] <c0d4041292> just my first time on.. so saying hey!
[02:30] <Ben64> c0d4041292: backbox isn't supported here... use #ubuntu-offtopic for chatting
[02:32] <ToeSnacks> I'm having some trouble with using ssh key authenticaton with an encrypted home directory
[02:32] <ToeSnacks> I have followed the instructions outlined in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[02:32] <ToeSnacks> however now it appears that all the contents of my home dir are missing when I shh in
[02:34] <ToeSnacks> I now have to run ecryptfs-mount-private to get them back
[02:35] <OerHeks> ToeSnacks, correct. see #1 answer by troubleshooting https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys#Troubleshooting
[02:36] <ToeSnacks> OerHeks: I'm not clear on what you are saying, I have already read and followed that.
[02:36] <ToeSnacks> my issue is a result of it
[02:40] <Acpovaurox_Yang> hi
[02:47] <IRCisodd> is there a plugin to remove the "Has joined #channel" and "has quit" just for the content?
[02:48] <daftykins> that's a question for your chosen IRC client's support :)
[02:49] <IRCisodd> Care to enlighten my novice brain as to why?
[02:50] <daftykins> IRCisodd: 'cause we don't even know what client you're using
[02:50] <ToeSnacks> IRCisodd: cause the server sends the message no matter what, and it's up to the client to filter them or show them
[02:51] <ToeSnacks> IRCisodd: so the clinet is where turning them "off" would happen
[02:51] <sennn> is there some project like winehq what to run android apps in linux?
[02:51] <daftykins> no
[02:51] <IRCisodd> Ight I'm a gonna go do some looking. Thanks ToeSnacks and daftykins
[02:52] <ToeSnacks> IRCisodd: do you know what client you are using?
[02:52] <sennn> daftykins, why?
[02:52] <sennn> does it possible
[02:52] <Ben64> sennn: you would need an emulator
[02:53] <daftykins> sennn: well maybe there is if you look online, but that's some nasty frankenstein idea i'd never try to achieve :D
[02:53] <IRCisodd> Yup I'm gona see what they got to say and read some fourms.
[02:53] <ToeSnacks> sennn: There is an emulator for android that comes with the android SDK
[02:53] <ToeSnacks> IRCisodd: which one, maybe I can help
[02:54] <sennn> i hate emulator
[02:54] <ToeSnacks> sennn: WineHQ is an emulator isn't it?
[02:55] <sennn> wine is not emulator
[02:55] <sennn> WINE
[02:55] <sennn> !!!
[02:55] <IRCisodd> weechat Thanks but if I figure it out I might remember it a bit better.
[02:55] <ObrienDave> WINE = Wine Is Not an Emulator
[02:55] <sennn> yes
[02:57] <sennn> why no one can write out some kind of runtime layer?
[02:57] <Guest33819> hi all, I ve question here
[02:57] <ToeSnacks> sennn: go for it
[02:57] <daftykins> !ot | sennn sorry not relevant to ubuntu support.
[02:57] <Guest33819> I running apt-get install ubiquity-frontend-gtk
[02:58] <Guest33819> I got error some packages not found
[02:58] <daftykins> !paste | Guest33819
[02:58] <Mongo44> I can't switch back to Unity from xfce in Ubuntu 13.10.
[02:58] <Ben64> 13.10 is no longer supported
[02:59] <Mongo44> Had to install this outdated OS for a class.
[02:59] <Lacan> better use gnome
[02:59] <daftykins> what is with people all claiming their lecturers are getting them to install EOL ubuntu of late?
[02:59] <mchelen> what do you see at the login screen?
[03:00] <daftykins> seems to be some conspiracy on wasting our time :P
[03:00] <Mongo44> Nothing to change the DE just my account and guest session.
[03:00] <Guest33819> here my error message http://paste.ubuntu.com/10064906/plain/
[03:00] <mchelen> the development cycle for acedemia can be sloooow
[03:00] <Guest33819> seem like apt-get not found packages in repos
[03:01] <Guest33819> can you help me?
[03:01] <Ben64> Mongo44: tell whoever runs that class that that version of ubuntu is over 6 months old and has some very serious vulnerabilities
[03:01] <mchelen> Mongo44: is there a reason you dont want to use xfce?
[03:01] <Guest33819> ubuntu server 64bit-trusty
[03:01] <Guest33819> i want backup my whole system use remastersys
[03:02] <Lacan> no reason if u use an old machine
[03:03] <Mongo44> It just bugs me that I can't switch back.
[03:03] <teward> Guest33819: that's a case of whatever mirror you're using being broke
[03:03] <Lacan> thought remastersys to make ur installed OS into bootable CD / DVD
[03:03] <mchelen> Mongo44: try installing gnome-fallback & see if that helps?
[03:04] <Mongo44> It is a VM so I am not worried about vulnerabilities.
[03:04] <teward> Guest33819: you might want to consider running `sudo apt-get update` again to see if there's a newer version / package listed
[03:04] <Guest33819> yes, remastersys to move my whole configuration to my new pc
[03:04] <Mongo44> mchelen, what package is that?
[03:04] <PSGroup84> Bashing-om: Is tcsh very much the same as csh?
[03:04] <mchelen> Mongo44: i think that is the package name, maybe gnome-flashback
[03:04] <Codmadnesspro> Where do I find hostnames config for ubuntu? /etc/hostnames is empty
[03:05] <mchelen> Mongo44: its for vanilla gnome de
[03:05] <Ben64> Codmadnesspro: /etc/hostname
[03:05] <Codmadnesspro> Not sure why I added the s to the end lol, thanks
[03:05] <Lacan> even with different spesification??
[03:06] <Guest33819> sorry, i forgot to apt-get update
[03:06] <daftykins> Codmadnesspro: you have to change /etc/hosts at the same time too, otherwise you brick your install
[03:06] <Guest33819> I'll try it now
[03:06] <Mongo44> mchelen, how will that help me change the de?
[03:06] <Lacan> u could create one
[03:06] <Codmadnesspro> daftykins, brick it???!?
[03:06] <Codmadnesspro> wtf
[03:07] <Codmadnesspro> Sounds serious lol
[03:07] <Bashing-om> PSGroup84: I be the last to offer an opinion, vener seen tcsh . ( man tcsh might be revealing )
[03:07] <daftykins> Codmadnesspro: yep well, sudo won't work anymore if you don't edit them together :)
[03:07] <Ben64> daftykins: hardly "bricking" though
[03:07] <mchelen> Mongo44: its just a stab in the dark
[03:07] <Codmadnesspro> daftykins, is this fine? <IP_ADDRESS>   mail.dogeclouds.cod mail localhost
[03:07] <mchelen> Mongo44: are you sure you are not overlooking the button to select de?
[03:07] <daftykins> Ben64: meh, was better to get someones attention through sensationalism :>
[03:08] <daftykins> Codmadnesspro: heh, .cod - yeah if it matches up
[03:08] <Codmadnesspro> Yeah I just changed that lol
[03:08] <Lacan> anyone knows how to fix usb 3 issues with ubuntu??
[03:08] <daftykins> Lacan: you probably have to say what's going wrong first :)
[03:08] <PSGroup84> Bashing-om: I googled csh and tcsh. I found out they are very similiar
[03:09] <Guest33819> apt-get update work, thanks :D
[03:09] <Mongo44> I don't think so. I have three more tasks to do on an assignment due by midnight. I might just carry on in xfce.
[03:09] <mchelen> Mongo44: or restore your snapshot with unity :)
[03:09] <Bashing-om> PSGroup84: K .
[03:09] <Lacan> when i do activate usb 3 support sometime my pc doesn't recognize any usb device and sometime it doos???
[03:10] <Lacan> thought it says ubuntu was the first OS that supporting it??
[03:11] <daftykins> 'it' seems to be making some novel claims
[03:11] <Codmadnesspro> its messed up me updating now lol
[03:11] <Codmadnesspro> W: Failed to fetch http://mirrors.digitalocean.com/ubuntu/dists/utopic-updates/universe/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: 2a03:b0c0:1:1::4 80]
[03:11] <Codmadnesspro> Since i've changed /etc/hosts D:
[03:11] <daftykins> you rebooted first right?
[03:11] <Codmadnesspro> nope not yet
[03:11] <daftykins> Codmadnesspro: also using utopic and setting up a mail server, bad move. use LTS
[03:12] <Lacan> it doesn't matter if u use the old one, but new pc has some incompatibilties with the hardw??
[03:12] <daftykins> Lacan: i wasn't addressing you, just then.
[03:13] <daftykins> Lacan: the clue is your name is in front now, but not above
[03:13] <Lacan> yes i do
[03:13] <daftykins> wat
[03:13] <ianorlin> I am testing vivid and use lts for my vps
[03:13] <Lacan> several time until the pc detecting the dev
[03:15] <Lacan> but that's no problem if i disable usb 3 support.. Everything just go well.
[03:15] <Lacan> i thought better to use full support without any issues
[03:16] <Lacan> for ex.. if u use UEFI + SecBoot is better than old BIOS
[03:20] <Lacan> anyone know ho to install Android SDK on UBUntu??
[03:21] <redemptionsong> Is there any way to simlink (ln -s <something> <somewhere>) the contents of the firefox bookmarks menu with a single folder I've created on the bookmarks toolbar ??  (does anyone happen to know or has done it themself?)
[03:30] <Mongo44> WINE isn
[03:30] <Mongo44> Wine isn't working. I already ran Wine config.
[03:31] <Mongo44> Won't install keeps on giving errors.
[03:31] <Mongo44> How do I copy a CD to the HD in xfce?
[03:31] <Ben64> 13.10 still isn't supported
[03:31] <daftykins> 1) write on a single line 2) explain *what* is not working, "it dun work" doesn't describe much.
[03:32] <daftykins> ah yeah, Mongo44 sorry EOL is EOL.
[03:32] <daftykins> tell your lecturer to stop allowing unsafe practices
[03:33] <Mongo44> EOL should be SOL.
[03:35] <ObrienDave> Mongo44, you don't "copy" a cd to HD. you make an ISO image file of the CD
[03:35] <ianorlin> !language| Mongo44
[03:37] <Mongo44> Sorry for the crude acronym.
[03:37] <goodluck> hi,geeks,i learned some basic bash commands,can someone give me a hint what to do to improve my skill,i mean what is most useful,crontab jobs or change a text content or some ohter example.
[03:38] <Ben64> goodluck: depends what you want to do
[03:38] <Ranieri_> goodluck: Are you addressing us all as geeks, or are you addressing the group of people in this channel that are geeks?
[03:39] <PSGroup84> Bashing-om: Does K means OK/
[03:39] <supay> lol, Ranieri_, why confuse the lad
[03:39] <PSGroup84> ?
[03:39] <Jocce91> Geek and nerd is positive term :P
[03:40] <ObrienDave> a "geek" is a person in a circus that bites the heads off of chickens
[03:40] <Ranieri_> supay: :D
[03:40] <ObrienDave> i'm not THAT kind of geek ;P
[03:40] <Jocce91> okey maybe, but nerd is usually good atleast
[03:41] <ObrienDave> umm, i should say "we" lol
[03:43] <daftykins> goodluck: show more respect when you join a channel.
[03:43] <daftykins> especially when you want something
[03:45] <goodluck> daftykins:in us here ,geeks means someone had a super tech skill.:p
[03:46] <daftykins> yes but labels aren't appropriate
[03:48] <MrHeavy> I'm having a weird issue on Ubuntu 14.04 where I'm trying to install ubuntu-zfs and DKMS keeps outputting a .ko file build as 32-bit, not 64-bit. Has anyone run into anything like this before?
[03:49] <MrHeavy> It happens even when I call dkms build manually and specify -a x86_64
[03:54] <spl0ito> good evening
[03:55] <spl0ito> I'm not sure how to approach an issue I'm having. I want to try to utilize a TV tuner card to capture some old video from a VCR.  When I plug the TV TUNER into my PCI slot (PCI-E has nvidia card) I can't boot as it appears the system is detecting and trying to use the TV Tuner card as the video card. Any suggestions?
[03:59] <MrHeavy> @spl0ito: Dumb question, but is it a standalone TV tuner card, or is it one of those old ATI All-in-Wonder cards?
[04:01] <spl0ito> @mrheavy I believe it's a standalone card - pinnacle systems - I'm trying to locate the logs of the crash/failed boot now to provide more details - I could see when I tried to boot in recovery it detected it by that name -bttv came up multiple times
[04:07] <ablest1980> hi
[04:07] <ablest1980> i have a question
[04:08] <Ben64> looks more like a statement
[04:08] <ablest1980> how do i set up thunderbird to check webmail
[04:08] <votlon> ello all
[04:09] <Ben64> ablest1980: that would be something you'd have to look at on the webmail page, they need to support pop3
[04:09] <ablest1980> ok
[04:09] <ablest1980> ello
[04:11] <PSGroup84> Bashing-om: Does K means OK?
[04:12] <ablest1980> yes
[04:12] <Bashing-om> PSGroup84: Well, 'K' could mena "OK", but generally just an acknowlegement that the entry was seen .
[04:13] <ablest1980> ben64 im all set up
[04:13] <ablest1980> ty
[04:13] <ablest1980> :)
[04:14] <spl0ito> Perhaps I can ask my question in a different manner to make it more generic and applicable for others.
[04:15] <spl0ito> Anyone know how I can adjust boot settings in ubuntu to specify the video device used (boot video device) be PCI-E?
[04:15] <Ben64> thats a bios thing
[04:15] <ablest1980> yeah
[04:15] <ablest1980> restart press esc before system logo
[04:16] <spl0ito> I already set BIOS to PCI-E - yes mine is F2 - booted like that now.... As soon as I plug in TV Tuner card ubuntu tries to "load it" and my system hangs
[04:16] <PSGroup84> Bashing-om: I googled csh and tcsh. I found out they are very similar. Are csh and tcsh are very much the same?
[04:16] <spl0ito> doesn't look like it saved any logs...at least I can't find any which is odd
[04:17] <Ben64> spl0ito: take a picture of what you're seeing
[04:17] <spl0ito> @ben64 - great idea
[04:17] <spl0ito> brb
[04:19] <Bashing-om> PSGroup84: Again, I can not say as I have never seen tcsh . The bash sjell interpreter works well for me and I have no need to use any other to this time .
[04:22] <ablest1980> sp0ito
[04:22] <ablest1980> sploito
[04:23] <ablest1980> sp0ito
[04:24] <Guest89259> aahhh, I istalled reymastersys with all packages needed, but I cant run install with iso I created
[04:25] <Guest89259> help me pls
[04:25] <PSGroup84> I googled csh and tcsh. I found out they are very similar. Are csh and tcsh are very much the same? Anyone please help!
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> Guest89259: wich guide did you follow?
[04:26] <ablest1980> spl0ito what card do you have?
[04:26] <breyzen> Hallo
[04:26] <Ben64> PSGroup84: tcsh is newer
[04:28] <ablest1980> spl0ito i see other people are having similiar problem on youtube
[04:28] <Guest89259> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2216890 i follow this
[04:30] <treehug88> PSGroup84: See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tcsh
[04:30] <Guest89259> and I Add and I add ubiquity for support reymastersys
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> Guest89259: maybe this guide is more clear: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Remastersys
[04:31] <Guest89259> some one, help me to migrate ubuntu server64-bit trusty , , ,
[04:32] <Guest89259> need to know how to make installer disc with all my configuration
[04:33] <PSGroup84> treehug88: I saw that website. I just need to confirm that csh and tcsh are very much the same. Am I correct?
[04:34] <treehug88> they are similar, yes
[04:36] <Marcello-MiX> im installing League of Legends on linux... but it is taking ages to download
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> Guest89259: i found some interesting alternative: http://www.cyvoc.net/novoweb/index.html
[04:44] <mines_of_moria> hi, really basic question: what do you type in the terminal in ununtu to get to the manual page for ctype.h?
[04:44] <mines_of_moria> the obvious man ctype or man ctype.h isn't it and i can't find it via google
[04:45] <mines_of_moria> i know a man page exists, it's easily findable but i want to know how to get to it via the terminal
[04:45] <mines_of_moria> thanks!
[04:45] <glogic> have you tried
[04:45] <glogic> man ctype.h
[04:46] <mines_of_moria> yes
[04:46] <mines_of_moria> i have gcc, man gcc pulls up the gcc man page
[04:47] <duan_> 。。。。
[04:47] <glogic> what happens for $ man POSIX
[04:49] <mines_of_moria> no manual entry for POSIX
[04:49] <mines_of_moria> i just wrote like, 4 c programs, all worked fine and used ctype.h so its not like it isn't on the computer
[04:49] <glogic> hm
[04:50] <mines_of_moria> maybe ctype.h is within gcc so i have to search within gcc somehow?
[04:50] <Ben64> header files don't really have man pages...
[04:51] <mines_of_moria> oh okay
[04:51] <glogic> mines_of_moria: I would do this
[04:51] <mines_of_moria> i found man pages for ctype.h online, i thought that meant header files have man pages
[04:51] <glogic> # aptitude install manpages-dev
[04:51] <glogic> # aptitude install manpages-posix-dev
[04:52] <mines_of_moria> I pasted from the # on, then typed man POSIX
[04:52] <mines_of_moria> still nothing
[04:52] <mines_of_moria> i obviously hit enter before typing man POSIX
[04:52] <glogic> That should give you the man pages for headers etc..
[04:52] <mines_of_moria> could i be in the wrong location in my directory somehow?
[04:53] <mines_of_moria> i typed cd so i should be in home, i believe
[04:53] <glogic> you need to be in root or sudo to install things, i'm sure you know this
[04:55] <mines_of_moria> right
[04:55] <glogic> still nothing for $ man ctype.h ?
[04:56] <mines_of_moria> no
[04:56] <glogic> Did the packages install? No error?
[04:56] <mines_of_moria> thats why im wondering if i am wrong about how to install # aptitude install manpages-posix-dev
[04:56] <mines_of_moria> im in root. i typed that and hit enter. it goes straight to the next line, so no error
[04:57] <glogic> Try it with apt-get instead? I'm baffled.
[04:57] <mines_of_moria> maybe i need to use sudo? if i type sudo # aptitude install manpages-posix-dev it brings up a list of sudo commands
[04:57] <glogic> Eh. Ok stop for a second.
[04:57] <mines_of_moria> can you type out exactly what i'd need to type?
[04:57] <glogic> On your command line do you have $, or #?
[04:57] <mines_of_moria> i just want to make sure i'm not missing something stupid
[04:57] <MicroWanker> guys how can I get my girlfriend to act like she is choking when she sucks my cock so I feel bigger?
[04:57] <cfhowlett> !ops | MicroWanker ban requested
[04:57] <mines_of_moria> this is exactly what i see: "alex@alex-Z87X-UD4H:/$"
[04:57] <glogic> Then do this:
[04:58] <glogic> "sudo aptitude install manpages-dev manpages-posix-dev"
[04:58] <mines_of_moria> I appreciate the help, thanks by the way
[04:58] <glogic> On one line.
[04:58] <mines_of_moria> this would be far too stupid to email my professor or TA
[04:59] <mines_of_moria> alex@alex-Z87X-UD4H:/$ sudo aptitude install manpages-dev manpages-posix-dev
[04:59] <glogic> Yes.
[04:59] <mines_of_moria> then, next line: sudo: aptitude: command not found
[04:59] <Ben64> apt-get instead of aptitude
[05:00] <glogic> Ok replace aptitude with apt-get
[05:00] <mines_of_moria> that seems to have worked, thanks Ben64
[05:00] <mines_of_moria> i've installed stuff before with sudo apt-get, didn't know there were so many variations
[05:01] <mines_of_moria> perfect, that works
[05:01] <glogic> have fun
[05:05] <aurora> help me
[05:06] <aurora> upgrading ubunt to version 14.10
[05:06] <aurora> now. error.
[05:07] <aurora> ttf-mscorefonts-installer  --- error
[05:08] <dingus1> I got an iso and installed it on a USB stick. then wiped ubuntu 12.04 and installed 14.10
[05:08] <Guest89259> help me backup my system pls
[05:08] <cfhowlett> !backup | guest
[05:09] <Guest89259> I'll read it all
[05:11] <Guest89259> sorry, but not that , , , I want to move my server to another pc with all configuration
[05:16] <sydney> What is 12.04's defualt graphics driver? noveau?
[05:17] <ianorlin> sydney, it depends on the hardware
[05:18] <sydney> Very defult?
[05:18] <sydney> Without using jockey-gtk for nvidia.
[05:18] <ianorlin> yes for nvidia noveau is the default
[05:19] <sydney> Ok, thanks.
[05:19] <funhouse> Hey I'm just wondering why is it that when I ssh into a new session my bash history is cleared?
[05:43] <tripelb> UB14.04: want to install Libreoffice 4.4 but I added the ppa then uninstalled and dont know how to install again. "I dont know what I dont know"
[05:44] <chowder> tripelb: if you didn't remove the PPA you should still be able to reinstall it the normal way
[05:44] <tripelb> What is the terminal command/s to install LibreOffice 4.4 on Ubuntu 14.04 (please)
[05:45] <chowder> apt-cache search libreoffice and then apt-get install the appropriate package. it'll probably be named something appropriate like libreoffice-4.4
[05:45] <tripelb> chowder I dont know how to remove a ppa
[05:45] <tripelb> I will try that. brb
[05:45] <chowder> ok good luck. if you don't understand something feel free to ask
[05:52] <tripelb> chowder there is no such package. there seems to be libreoffice but I want 4.4 9this page told me stuff which I did. https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/2u6mpv/install_libreoffice_44_in_ubuntu_1404_lts/) (but another page told me to purge it before installing so that I didnt have two copies so I did that afterward. Now I think the dist upgrade WAS the install.) Must I install libreoffice (older version) and then do the upgrade again?  <-- I dont un
[05:52] <tripelb> derstand something. But what?
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> tripelb: libreoffice 4.4 will be default on 15.04, see the article on omgubuntu
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> !info libreoffice trusty | tripelb
[05:53] <tripelb> chowder, that's fine but I only want to use the LTS. And the new libreoffice.
[05:54] <tripelb> lotuspsychje, and chowder. I dont know how to apply what ubottu told us.
[05:54] <chowder> tripelb: I see. well installing the PPA will definitely get you the latest version. Question: What did the latest version of libreoffice have that the one in the repos didn't? ubottu just gave you information on the package.
[05:55] <tripelb> I may give up and just get the regular.
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> tripelb: it means trusty has version 4.2.7
[05:55] <tripelb> whatever will be will be.
[05:55] <tripelb> yes I knew that. this was "one of the things to do after installing ubuntu 14.04"
[05:56] <tripelb> I just tried to install it and I got a bunch of ehat seem to be errors called "Unknown media type" -- that FYI. I have to quit tonight to get the last bus otta dodge.
[05:57] <tripelb> thank you chowder thank you other nick.
[06:00] <SimplySeth> would there be any objection to adding 'python-maas-client' and 'python-maas-provisioningserver' to PyPi  so that it can be used on all platforms ?
[06:02] <chowder> SimplySeth: no clue. There might be a Python specific channel or one that focuses on PyPi that would be better able to answer your question.
[06:03] <SimplySeth> chowder: thanks. I don't know who to ask. I'll try there as well.
[06:03] <chowder> no problem
[06:10] <jonascj> Regarding grub2 and old MBR systems: the first 512 of the HARDDISK (e.g. /dev/sda) holds information about where the grub2 configuration is located, right?
[06:14] <Loshki> jonascj: yes, e.g. Create a backup of your MBR by doing dd if=/dev/sda of=MBR-backup bs=512 count=1, restore it later with dd if=MBR-backup of=/dev/sda bs=512 count=1 kind of thing.
[06:15] <chowder> its funny to hear "old MBR" systems considering that they haven't been phased out.
[06:38] <Loshki> chowder: that seems minor compared to grub's versioning system: grub 1 was 0.9 something and grub2 was at 1 point something. That's fixed, right?
[06:40] <chowder> Loshki: lol nope. I do think that grub2 was named because of all the differences between it and grub1.
[06:52] <Loshki> chowder: I wondered if "old MBR" stemmed from confusion with UEFI and 'legacy BIOS' boot systems.
[06:53] <chowder> Loshki: probably did. I like GPT because you can have more main partitions but I don't see such an urgent need to change.
[07:04] <Guest30583> p
[07:04] <Guest30583> oeu
[07:05] <Guest30583> hi, can you see my comments, guys?
[07:05] <syednazrulhassan> yes
[07:05] <chowder> I can see them
[07:05] <Guest30583> ok, thanx
[07:05] <chowder> np
[07:06] <Guest30583> it's just i've been asking a question on linuxmint channel and nobody responds
[07:11] <chowder> Guest30583: its almost midnight where I am. maybe most of them are asleep or they don't know what you're talking about
[07:12] <chowder> if the question has to do with apt or a Debian tool that Ubuntu uses then you can ask here
[07:12] <Ben64> not true
[07:12] <Guest30583> oh
[07:12] <Ben64> mint support goes in the mint channel, this channel is only for ubuntu
[07:12] <Guest30583> ok
[07:12] <Guest30583> I have this problem: I got my hdd with linux mint and connected it to my stationary pc. And now, when I put it back and turn on the laptop, it doesn't load the desktop
[07:12] <Ben64> again, ubuntu support only
[07:13] <votlon> BOOOOM
[07:13] <Guest30583> but it worked before
[07:13] <votlon> mint get rekt ;3
[07:13] <Ben64> Guest30583: #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[07:13] <chowder> Ben64: my mistake. I thought he might have had a question that was specifically about apt or one of the Debian tools
[07:13] <Ben64> chowder: still not on topic unless ubuntu
[07:13] <Guest30583> ok, thanx Ben
[07:14] <dagerik> how do I install npm modules in /usr/local so they become accessable for all users?
[07:14] <sayurelekronik> Malsasa:
[07:14] <Malsasa> sayurelekronik: hello
[07:14] <chowder> Ben64: not to be "that guy" but how would anyone know if an apt issue was mint, debian, or ubuntu specific without the user mentioning it?
[07:14] <votlon> dagerik: cant u just chmod them after?
[07:14] <dingus1> hey, I installed systemback on 14.10 and when I run it from an xterm it shows: "illegal instruction (core dumped)
[07:15] <dingus1> It worked fine with 14.04
[07:15] <chowder> dingus1: sounds like an error with the program itself. not much we can do to fix it. run it with gdb.
[07:16] <chowder> and then give us the output. might be a missing library. maybe the library it depends on has to be an earlier or older version. no way to help without more information.
[07:17] <chowder> Guest30583: check your pm
[07:17] <dingus1> like gdb /usr/bin/systemback
[07:17] <votlon> Anyone know how man connections openvpn supports with the package from ubuntu reps?
[07:17] <lotuspsychje> chowder: ubuntu is more stable then all other flavors, thats why to keep it seperate
[07:17] <chowder> more stable than Debian?
[07:17] <votlon> yeah idk about that lotuspsychje ur paiting with a broad brush there
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> chowder: he was talking mint
[07:18] <lotuspsychje> anyway this is ubuntu support
[07:18] <chowder> lotuspsychje: I get it, thanks.
[07:19] <doctorly> test
[07:19] <chowder> dingus1: I don't remember how to use gdb. I think that's the first step but then there are other steps involved. Might want to check out the man page. man gdb and info gdb
[07:19] <dingus1> ty
[07:20] <chowder> dingus1: should be "gdb program" and then the command "run" (no quotes)
[07:21] <chowder> make sure to include any flags you passed to the program. you want to duplicate behavior as closely as possible
[07:21] <doctorly> Hi, I am trying to use dkms to fix a driver issue. when I run the cmmand "sudo dkms install 8192cu/1.9" but I am getting an error because it wants me to provide the version number, which doesn't exist. Is there a way to skip the version number??
[07:24] <dingus1> not really sure how to use pastebin. but there are more than six lines of output from gdb.
[07:30] <dingus1> !pastebin
[07:31] <LTS14N00b> HI All, I'm having trouble getting my FujiXerox C1110 to work, I have installed the PPD file and copied pstopdffx to the /usr/lib/cups/filter/ directory and I get the error in status: File "/usr/lib/cups/filter/pstopdffx" has insecure permissions (0100755/uid=1000/gid=1000). and also "cups insecure-filter in the Status message box.
[07:31] <c31r2g> Doctorly why dont you create the name with the version number
[07:31] <c31r2g> Like renaming the file showing the version number
[07:31] <c31r2g> And then hit the command
[07:33] <doctorly> Hi, I am trying to use dkms to fix a driver issue. when I run the cmmand "sudo dkms install 8192cu/1.9" but I am getting an error because it wants me to provide the version number, which doesn't exist. Is there a way to skip the version number??
[07:33] <doctorly> sorry for double posting just then
[07:34] <c31r2g> doctorly why dont you try the method i just suggested
[07:34] <c31r2g> Above
[07:34] <doctorly> c31r2g how can I name something in the tree?
[07:34] <jakeblack> hi
[07:34] <doctorly> I know, like I said I didn't mean to double
[07:34] <jakeblack> hi blue1
[07:34] <doctorly> I just don't know how to rename something in the dkms tree
[07:35] <c31r2g> I aint blaming anyone
[07:35] <c31r2g> peace doctorly
[07:35] <doctorly> c31r2g: seeya
[07:36] <c31r2g> Yep :)
[07:36] <dingus1> here is what ic in gdb.
[07:36] <dingus1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10068325/
[07:36] <jakeblack> hi
[07:38] <doctorly> does anyone know how to rename a file in the dkms tree?
[07:41] <dingus1> more info from gdb after backtrace.
[07:41] <dingus1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10068394/
[07:43] <dingus1> I should get the source files for systemback and config/compile for my computer with debug symbols
[07:54] <jonascj_> Hi all. I'm trying to move /boot to a new partition. I've copied the content of the current /boot to my new partition (/dev/sda1, ext4), and I've edited /etc/fstab to mount /dev/sda1 as /boot (using uuids).
[07:54] <jonascj_> What more do I need. Do I need to run grub2-mkconfig, or grub-install?
[07:58] <cfhowlett> !home / jonascj_
[07:58] <cfhowlett> !home | jonascj_
[07:59] <jonascj_> cfhowlett: it contains hints for moving /boot as well, or some aspects are similar?
[08:00] <cfhowlett> jonascj_, moving boot should not be required.  in fact, /home has very little to do with boot, but if you must: sudo update grub and reboot
[08:01] <jonascj_> cfhowlett: I am not trying to move /home, I am tring to move /boot
[08:01] <cfhowlett> jonascj_, doh!  ignore my advice ... sorry, missed that crucial details.  :)
[08:01] <jonascj_> cfhowlett: :P
[08:02] <jonascj_> cfhowlett: the guide was still quite good, find the uuid and everyting (although I had already done that )
[08:06] <jonascj_> cfhowlett: I could probably do with only moving /home, since all I require is more space, but that is so boring compared to moving /boot and /
[08:06] <jonascj_> and yes yes, if I had installed my laptop today I would have made an individual /home, /boot /var etc. to begin with
[08:06] <cfhowlett> jonascj_, :)
[08:12] <Guest21859> hi
[08:13] <theptr> Guest21859, hello
[08:18] <cage> Hi. Is it possible to put recently opened applications to the top of the screen
[08:19] <Kartagis> cage: you mean top output?
[08:19] <cage> Example: I have an app full screen, and I press calculator shortcut, it opens, but not in the foreground
[08:19] <cage> Kartagis: not sure what that is
[08:19] <cage> I'm talking about foreground and background here
[08:20] <Kartagis> oh, I haven't got an idea then
[08:23] <kokut> Hello, i'm trying rm ~/.Dir and it says "Cannot remove, Dir is a directory" how can i remove it? Already tried with sudo.
[08:25] <cfhowlett> kokut, sudo rm -rf
[08:25] <{^TIBS01^}> no
[08:25] <cfhowlett> kokut, that target directory
[08:25] <{^TIBS01^}> sudo rm -rf *.*
[08:25] <cfhowlett> NO NO NO
[08:25] <kokut> okay i think it worked
[08:25] <{^TIBS01^}> lol
[08:26] <cfhowlett> {^TIBS01^}, not even the least bit funny and that kind of malicious suggestion WILL get you kicked.  STOP NOW
[08:26] <{^TIBS01^}> kinky
[08:26] <{^TIBS01^}> i love being kicked
[08:26] <cfhowlett> !guidelines {^TIBS01^}
[08:26] <cfhowlett> !guidelines | {^TIBS01^}
[08:26] <{^TIBS01^}> i think i know the irc rules i been on here 24 yrs
[08:27] <kokut> u been on here 24 years? time to go out a lil bit?
[08:27] <hateball> Not really any reason to use sudo for a rm'ing directory in ones home, assuming default permissions are there
[08:46] <Guest79635> film
[08:46] <gokul_> hi
[08:48] <Guest79635> come  si scarica
[08:48] <cfhowlett> !it | Guest79635
[08:48] <gokul_> aaa
[08:48] <gokul_> what is this
[08:49] <cfhowlett> !topic | gokul_
[09:09] <Cheaterman> Hey guys, I'm having issues with FG
[09:09] <Cheaterman> Hmm
[09:09] <Cheaterman> Last time I was unanswered so lemme join a specific chan if it exists
[09:10] <k1l_> !details | Cheaterman
[09:10] <Cheaterman> k1l_: Thanks :-) my cousin has an Ubuntu, and he's using the FOSS ATI drivers
[09:10] <Cheaterman> Which are kinda glitchy! I didn't expect them to work much anyways
[09:11] <Cheaterman> So I suggested installing fglrx - I tried: fglrx (standard) and fglrx-updates (both from the proprietary drivers thingy in "software & updates")
[09:11] <Cheaterman> And then I installed Catalyst from ATI's website
[09:11] <Cheaterman> All three make me get the "safe graphics" dialog on boot
[09:12] <Cheaterman> (I kinda had to switch to a TTY and apt-get remove the driver)
[09:12] <Cheaterman> It has to be noted he is on a "switcheroo"-style laptop
[09:12] <k1l_> what ubuntu exactly and what video card?
[09:12] <Cheaterman> 14.04, Radeon HD 5xxx
[09:12] <Cheaterman> Switcheroo-style
[09:13] <Cheaterman> I didn't install anything specific for switcheroo prior to rebooting - the Ubuntu docs said it wasn't necessary with the "Catalyst" (ATI-website-originating) drivers
[09:14] <supay> hey, is there a way to 'hack' or 'bypass' the ubuntu login?
[09:14] <Cheaterman> SupaY can you define your expectations precisely? Do you wanna log into a TTY?
[09:14] <supay> just setup openstack and launched an instance with the image called 'trusty-image' and i dont know its username/password :/
[09:14] <k1l_> Cheaterman: hmm, i am not a amd guy. but some video cards need the nomodeset kernel boot parameter
[09:15] <supay> Cheaterman: yes, sort of
[09:15] <k1l_> supay: read the docs and README from that image.
[09:15] <supay> k1l_: i dont have them :(
[09:15] <Cheaterman> k1l_: So booting without KMS might help, thanks for the tip - I don't have the laptop on myself, but I'm trying to collect as many hints as possible to speed up fixing the issue when I do
[09:16] <Cheaterman> SupaY: trusty-image? what about ubuntu/(empty) ?
[09:16] <Cheaterman> (user ubuntu, no password at all)
[09:16] <k1l_> Cheaterman: if you know the exact modelnumber you could try a search if there are known issues and solutions
[09:16] <supay> Cheaterman: nope, that didn't work :(
[09:16] <Cheaterman> k1l_: I think I tried that yesterday, without much success hehe, but I'll try again yes :-)
[09:17] <ilgios> hi there
[09:17] <ilgios> i just need help
[09:17] <Cheaterman> supay: Hmm... What's the default user you were logged on @ boot time? (I guess you're not stuck on a login screen right when the liveCD boots, are you?)
[09:17] <Cheaterman> :
[09:17] <k1l_> supay: http://docs.openstack.org/image-guide/content/ch_obtaining_images.html
[09:17] <Cheaterman> !details | ilgios
[09:18] <k1l_> supay: its mentioned in the docs as i said
[09:18] <ilgios> ok
[09:18] <Cheaterman> ilgios: Typical Linux ;-) RTFM hehehe
[09:19] <ilgios> for sure it's a stupit problem, but for me is a big one
[09:19] <ilgios> :)
[09:19] <k1l_> ilgios: just ask and give infos :)
[09:20] <bulletxt> hi, im on ubuntu 11.04. how can I upgrade to 12.04 ?
[09:20] <ilgios> I'm working on an embedded device where i have ubuntu 12.02 and kernel version 3.0.35
[09:20] <k1l_> bulletxt: you need to upgrade to 11.10 first and then to 12.04
[09:20] <k1l_> !eolupgrades | bulletxt
[09:20] <k1l_> ilgios: what gives you "lsb_release -d" and "uname -a"?
[09:21] <bulletxt> k1l_: if i do sudo do-release-upgrade  it says Checking for a new ubuntu release No new release found
[09:22] <bulletxt> is it normal that I cant do sudo apt-get update ? it seems it cant reach repos  sudo apt-get update                            Err http://archive.canonical.com natty InRelease
[09:22] <ilgios> i'm trying to install relatek audio code 5.18 (downloaded from realtek web site), but when i run ./confgure, i got the errore message:  you have built-in ALSa in your kernel
[09:22] <k1l_> bulletxt: yes, that is correct. that is because you are very very very late. the support (with security fixes) dropped on 2012. so you need to do some changes to be able to upgrade to 11.10 which was dropped too already
[09:22] <k1l_> bulletxt: yes that is normal because you are 3 years overdue
[09:22] <ilgios> i'm not able to go on and what to do
[09:22] <bulletxt> k1l_: ok........ what can I do  then ?
[09:22] <k1l_> bulletxt: see what the bot told you
[09:24] <cfhowlett> bulletxt, honestly, from natty, you're probably better off getting 14.04.1 from the torrents and clean installing.  also, assuming you have some older equipment there, consider lubuntu or xubuntu.
[09:24] <ilgios> in may system , if i use command aplay -L i have the card vt1613-audio, but if i play a wav file, i can hear nothing
[09:24] <bulletxt> I cant'
[09:24] <bulletxt> i really need to upgrade
[09:24] <ilgios> i checked if it is mute, qwith alsamixer, but it's everything ok
[09:24] <Cheaterman> k1l_: Reminds me how I once updated from Dapper to Gutsy
[09:24] <ilgios> the volume is up
[09:24] <cfhowlett> bulletxt, can't waht???
[09:24] <Cheaterman> It was... a very chaotic road. I'm pretty sure EOL upgrades are less messy now :-)
[09:24] <bulletxt> I must do an upgrade, I really cant do fresh intsall
[09:25] <k1l_> bulletxt: scroll up and read what the bot told you
[09:25] <cfhowlett> bulletxt, ok, end of upgrade.  read more, irc less.
[09:25] <Cheaterman> (It was back then when Ubuntu gave away free CDs, and they gave me Dapper CD's 6.06 iirc)
[09:25] <ame> iligos:Check the device connected on your sound settings
[09:26] <ame> iligos:What type of device you connected??
[09:26] <bulletxt> I cant find anything about natty to 12.04
[09:26] <k1l_> bulletxt: stop
[09:26] <cfhowlett> #eolupgrade | bulletxt, READ!!!!
[09:26] <k1l_> bulletxt: 11.04 to 12.04 is not possible. you need to do the step to 11.10 first like i told you already
[09:26] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade
[09:26] <Cheaterman> bulletxt: We told you it's a bad idea, 'nuff said. Please read the link posted above: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[09:27] <bulletxt> I dont get how can I upgrade 11.04 to 11.10
[09:28] <k1l_> bulletxt: did you read only once what the bot told you?
[09:28] <cfhowlett> bulletxt, you've been given the link repeatedly.  As you clearly refuse to read ... we can't help
[09:28] <ame> why my desktop side panel gone out if i close any libreoffice file??Then i need to press CTRL+ALT+DELETE to bring that back??
[09:28] <ItsMeLenny> why when i delete source lists from /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ do they return when using the "software and updates" manager?
[09:29] <k1l_> bulletxt: click on the link and read the howto. its all explained. you just need to read it. if you dont want to read anything, not even our answers, stop asking.
[09:29] <Cheaterman> ItsMeLenny: I think you should either use the graphical tool, either do it the Debian - text-file - way, but likely not both
[09:30] <Cheaterman> ItsMeLenny: As you might have noticed, the Ubuntu Software Center (and likely Synaptics too) have a "Software Sources" dialog
[09:30] <k1l_> ItsMeLenny: its better to use ppapurge for that
[09:31] <ItsMeLenny> doesnt ppapurge also remove the packages that were installed from the repos?
[09:31] <k1l_> ItsMeLenny: yes
[09:31] <bulletxt> I must be blind, I cant' understand 11.04 to 11.10 as 11.10 is also "dead"
[09:31] <ame> why my desktop side panel gone out if i close any libreoffice file??Then i need to press CTRL+ALT+DELETE to bring that back??
[09:31] <fmoo> any particular reason gobject-introspection doesn't include the .pc file in the package?
[09:31] <k1l_> ItsMeLenny: if you remove the repo its senseless to stay with that package
[09:31] <Cheaterman> bulletxt: It doesn't matter that it's "dead", since you'll upgrade it as well.
[09:31] <ItsMeLenny> Cheaterman, what is the software sources dialog
[09:32] <cfhowlett> bulletxt, 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04       ALL end of life upgrades.  that's the sequence.  the method is in the reading
[09:32] <k1l_> bulletxt: its not senseless. its the problem that you did not upgrade when 11.10 was not dead
[09:32] <Cheaterman> ItsMeLenny: I believe k1l_ has the best answer here. The Software Sources dialog is merely a thing you can get from Software Center, you do something like "File" → "Software sources" or something
[09:32] <k1l_> bulletxt: so you waiting 3 years to upgrade to 11.10 is the problem here.
[09:32] <ItsMeLenny> k1l_, not entirely, im updating the repo, so i still want the things installed from it
[09:32] <bulletxt> now 11.10 is dead. Can i still upgrade 11.04 to 11.10 ?
[09:32] <k1l_> bulletxt: yes!
[09:32] <ItsMeLenny> Cheaterman, i think i know what you're referring to
[09:33] <k1l_> bulletxt: read the wiki page we showed you 1000000times now and you still dont folllow it
[09:33] <ItsMeLenny> but it still doesnt explain why all the sources are regenerating
[09:33] <Cheaterman> ItsMeLenny: And then you can selectively uncheck stuff like Universe/Multiverse, but I (late) understood that you're asking about a repo you likely added with wget -O- | gpg add-thingy?
[09:33] <Cheaterman> (Or anything new you do for the same thing)
[09:33] <cfhowlett> bulletxt, admit it; you're having fun trolling us, aren't you?
[09:33] <Cheaterman> cfhowlett: Be nice :-) even stubborn newfriends need help
[09:33] <k1l_> ItsMeLenny: if you remove the repo you dont get any updates etc for it anymore. and the official ubuntu updates will not come, too, since its another newer version number.
[09:34] <bulletxt> im sorry im not trollying
[09:34] <Cheaterman> bulletxt: Then please read the documentation. It's clear and very explanatory.
[09:34] <cfhowlett> this ^^^
[09:34] <Cheaterman> bulletxt: We won't bother rewriting the documentation on IRC...
[09:35] <bulletxt> no, it never talks about 11.04
[09:35] <ItsMeLenny> k1l_, i understand that
[09:35] <bulletxt> where do you see that ?
[09:35] <Cheaterman> bulletxt: It talks about EOL upgrades in general.
[09:35] <Cheaterman> We won't write a specific page for your specific case. It wouldn't make sense.
[09:35] <bulletxt> doesnt make any sense as 11.10 is also dead
[09:35] <Cheaterman> bulletxt: ^
[09:35] <Cheaterman> ↑
[09:35] <k1l_> bulletxt: it doesnt need to talk about 11.04 or 11.10 or 12.04. its always the same procedure when ubuntu releases are out of support.
[09:35] <cfhowlett> bulletxt, the METHOD is what's important.
[09:36] <bulletxt> it doesn talk about how to upgrade from a dead to another dead
[09:36] <Cheaterman> bulletxt: It does not matter.
[09:36] <cfhowlett> bulletxt, yes it doesn
[09:36] <cfhowlett> *does*
[09:36] <k1l_> bulletxt: its still the same procedure
[09:36] <bulletxt> ok i'll read once again
[09:36] <Cheaterman> bulletxt: Just apply what the documentation says to your case. It doesn't matter that you're upgrading to "another EOL version".
[09:36] <cfhowlett> bulletxt, 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04   THAT is the sequence
[09:36] <Cheaterman> bulletxt: ↑ this is what matters.
[09:36] <bulletxt> 11.10 are dead from what I see
[09:37] <bulletxt> how can I upgrade to 11.10 if 11.10 repo don't exist ?
[09:37] <Cheaterman> bulletxt: How many times do we need to tell you - it does NOT matter that 11.10 is dead.
[09:37] <k1l_> bulletxt: you cant jump over releases. you should have updated to 11.10 when 11.10 was still active.
[09:37] <bulletxt> now its not active
[09:37] <bulletxt> so what can I do?
[09:37] <k1l_> bulletxt: its explained in the howto
[09:37] <bulletxt> no
[09:37] <Cheaterman> Thanks k1l_
[09:37] <Cheaterman> I'll try to query him to help
[09:37] <k1l_> i am already on it
[09:38] <ilgios> uname -a gives me armv7l GNU/Linux
[09:38] <Cheaterman> Alright :-)
[09:39] <Cheaterman> ilgios: Yay a real embedded like you said above ^__^
[09:39] <ilgios> yeah, it's real :)
[09:39] <ItsMeLenny> is there a .folder for apt?
[09:40] <Cheaterman> ItsMeLenny: Most things regarding APT should be system-wide, so it's unlikely
[09:41] <ItsMeLenny> where would it backup the list of sources i have installed to be able to recreate them?
[09:41] <Cheaterman> ilgios: I know it's a PITA from an embedded device, but could you try pasting aplay -L ?
[09:41] <Cheaterman> ItsMeLenny: Likely somewhere in /var/apt
[09:41] <Cheaterman> (iirc)
[09:42] <ilgios> Cheatearman, could i write you in private?
[09:42] <ilgios> Cheaterman, could i write you in private?
[09:42] <Cheaterman> ilgios: Certainly - although pasting it in private isn't an option, as you'll get throttled by Freenode :-)
[09:42] <Cheaterman> ilgios: ↑
[09:43] <ItsMeLenny> Cheaterman, /var/apt does not exist, i was in /etc/apt, but theres no file in there which i can find that is a backup
[09:44] <aaearon> im fighting a battle on a machine i 'inherited' that has two versions of php5. how can i see if a particular binary was compiled on the machine or installed via package manager?
[09:44] <Cheaterman> ItsMeLenny: Maybe /var/lib/apt ? :/ I'm really not sure, I've been away from Debian and its friends for a while
[09:46] <ItsMeLenny> Cheaterman, yeah theres things in there, but none are the ones i deleted from /etc/apt which is strange
[09:46] <ItsMeLenny> i wonder if i can safely remove all files in that folder
[09:46] <Cheaterman> ItsMeLenny: I _wouldn't_ do that.
[09:47] <ItsMeLenny> i'll try moving them so i can put them back if it doesnt work
[09:49] <ItsMeLenny> ah yeah apt-get update just recreates that folder and files
[10:03] <dogsrule> hello
[10:08] <m1dnight_> guys, my ubuntu server disconnected from lan last night and didnt respond to a friendly push on the power button
[10:08] <m1dnight_> what logs do I check to find out what happened?
[10:08] <m1dnight_> dmesg and syslog tell me nothing
[10:10] <zachariast_> exit
[10:11] <jatt> dmesg*gz
[10:11] <arcsky> anyone have setup radius with ssh login?
[10:11] <jatt> there you have the old versions
[10:12] <Cheaterman> k1l_: Gratz for finding out the firewall issue for bulletxt BTW
[10:12] <Cheaterman> These are a PITA to troubleshoot in general
[10:13] <m1dnight_> jatt: thanks, dint notice those
[10:13] <m1dnight_> all i can see tho are ufw blocks
[10:13] <m1dnight_> something might have been up with that
[10:13] <bulletxt> yea i'm sorry I kept reading the wiki without actually looking what was really happening on the server :)
[10:14] <ItsMeLenny> i've added the kxstudio and for some reason it defaulted to lucid despite being on trusty
[10:15] <student> why I am getiing this error "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.13.11-ckt13 (x86_64)" while installing the linux kernel after adding one system call in Ubuntu
[10:20] <student> why I am getiing this error "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.13.11-ckt13 (x86_64)" while installing the linux kernel after adding one system call in Ubuntu
[10:21] <student> how do I download the ckt  version of the linux kernel code for ubuntu os which I am running in my machine
[10:22] <k1l_> student: what do you want to do at all?
[10:22] <student> can any one help me please ?
[10:23] <cfhowlett> !patience | student
[10:24] <Wombel>  can i put ubuntu on a ibook g4?
[10:24] <fidel_> Wombel: ibook g4 means ppc right?
[10:25] <Wombel> yes
[10:25] <student> kil_: I have downloaded the kernel code  of the ubuntu machine which is running in my machine and I have added my own system call and copiled it everything was till here ok but when I was installing it it was giving me the error message which I posted above and it is not installing, if reboot the system after grub it will not load anything
[10:26] <cfhowlett> !mac | Wombel
[10:26] <Wombel> ta
[10:26] <fidel_> get the ppc iso and hf ;)
[10:27] <student> ubottu: I have almost tired many sites from past two days I din't get any thing
[10:28] <cfhowlett> student, did you READ the mac link?
[10:28] <fidel_> Wombel: the article is handling the topic for intel macs - you need the ppc part ;)
[10:28] <cfhowlett> !ppc | Wombel
[10:29] <supay> what about the passwords of the ubuntu images taken from here - http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/trusty/current/ ?
[10:29] <supay> 'trusty-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk1.img' specifically
[10:31] <lordievader> student: From where did you get that kernel?
[10:32] <student> lordievader: by using $sudo apt-get source linux-image-`uname -r` command
[10:32] <MortezaE> Hi. I'm on 14.04. sometimes when i minimize a window, compiz freezez in middle of minimizing. I must do Alt+Tab or change workspace to solve it. whats the problem? Is it about driver?
[10:33] <Arab_Aspie> #bakchodi is a fun place where you can troll all you want. Join it and start trolling! ;)
[10:33] <lordievader> student: Hmm, then what is that ctk thing you are talking about.
[10:33] <lordievader> ?
[10:35] <ppf> i'm using awesome wm, and whenever i bring up the nautilus file browser, it starts a desktop as well
[10:35] <ppf> complete with background image and showing the files in my home dir
[10:35] <ppf> is there a way to prevent that?
[10:36] <student> lordievader: it is telling like some ckt is missing and /lib/moudels/ker.nel.ver.sion.ctk not existing something like this and once it I reboot the machine after grub  a blank blak screen with some text appears and it stops there itself
[10:38] <lordievader> student: Please do use punctuation. Could you pastebin the full error?
[10:40] <lordievader> Ah ctk stands for Canonical Kernel Team. student, did you add a kernel ppa?
[10:41] <card> hi
[10:41] <card> can someone direct me to the help channel please?
[10:42] <cfhowlett> !details | card,
[10:42] <lordievader> card: This is the Ubuntu help channel, simply ask your question.
[10:43] <Tumulte> hello
[10:43] <Tumulte> if anyone uses powerline with zsh I got a font issue
[10:43] <ThePot> ayy
[10:43] <Tumulte> can you ping me if you use those tools ?
[10:44] <card> ok, so i have been playing games on my computer on linux mint and windows without issues, since installing xubunut i have had games crashing/freezing my computer. i get a black screen when launching witcher 2 and minecraft. i get a black screen and repeating sound with wine games. it also goes black and repeats sound in unigine valley.
[10:44] <cfhowlett> !mint | card,
[10:45] <k1l_> card: did you install the proper video card driver?
[10:45] <card> sudo lshw -C display
[10:45] <card> *-display
[10:45] <card>        description: VGA compatible controller
[10:45] <card>        product: GK104 [GeForce GTX 760]
[10:45] <card>        vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
[10:45] <card>        physical id: 0
[10:45] <card>        bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
[10:46] <k1l_> !paste | card
[10:46] <Cheaterman> card: You shouldn't do that :-)
[10:46] <lordievader> card: What driver is listed under "lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA"?
[10:48] <card> http://paste.ubuntu.com/10070825/
[10:49] <lordievader> card: You have the nvidia driver running.
[10:50] <student> lordievader: sorry  I dint record that error and as I rebooted the machine I could not go in side so I couldn't got the error message
[10:50] <card> yes i have the proprietary driver nvidia-331
[10:50] <RockyRoad> Hello there, is there a way to reconnect to a bash session ( marked "/bin/bash --noediting -i" ) when its associated terminal tab has been accidentally closed ?
[10:51] <student> lordievader: I do we add ppa to a  kernel ?
[10:51] <lordievader> student: What?
[10:52] <student> I mean can please elaborate it please I din't get it
[10:53] <Cheaterman> student: For now, lordievader was mostly asking you for information as far as I could see
[10:53] <Cheaterman> student: So don't do anything unconsiderate without being asked for it :-)
[10:54] <lordievader> Indeed. CKT are not regular kernels it seems.
[10:54] <student> hmm I thought the same
[10:54] <card> i have tried using nvidia-xconfig to reconfigure the graphics, also sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:55] <card> i even reinstalled the graphics using --purge and sudo apt-get install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core
[10:56] <lordievader> student: What the same to what?
but is there any link through which we can download  those ckt versions of kernel source code
[10:56] <student> I mean I also thought  CKT are not regular kernels
[10:56] <card> i have also used dist-upgrade in an attempt to fix it with a kernel upgrade
[10:56] <lordievader> student: Why do you need a ckt version? What is wrong with the kernels in the archive?
[10:58] <card> i have not tried nvidia-331-updates yet, trying that now.
[10:58] <Malsasa> Hello. I want to hide my IP by VPN in ppp0. But I can only hide IP in wlan0, not ppp0. Ubuntu 12.04, openvpn, config is from vpngate.net. My complete question was in http://askubuntu.com/questions/580014/how-to-bind-openvpn-to-ppp0-from-mobile-broadband. Thank you.
[10:59] <Cheaterman> Also, I still could use more answers about fglrx now that more people are online
[10:59] <student> If I comiple and install the archive kernels then it was giving me that this ckt module is not found
[11:00] <Cheaterman> The issue is simple - using fglrx (or fglrx-updates), both from proprietary drivers dialog in Ubuntu, or even trying the official AMD deb package from their website, simply won't let X boot (no screen found)
[11:00] <Cheaterman> Someone suggested disabling KMS (will try ASAP), but other suggestions are also welcome
[11:00] <lordievader> student: In Ubuntu it ain't necessary to compile your own kernels, besides custom kernels are not supported.
[11:00] <Cheaterman> (in case it doesn't work)
[11:00] <Cheaterman> I tried asking for support in #ati, but I'm afraid they're all still asleep - and I'm pretty sure we have some ATI users in here :-)
[11:01] <student> No I am not modifying anything in the existing kernel but I am adding my own system call to it
[11:02] <lordievader> student: That still falls under custom kernels.
[11:02] <student> lordievader: I am not making any customized kernel
[11:02] <student> ok o k
then what I should do now?
[11:02] <Cheaterman> student: it's even more custom than just editing .config ^^"
[11:03] <lordievader> student: To me it ain't clear why you need a custom kernel.
[11:03] <card> ok i tried nvidia-311-updates to no avail
[11:04] <Cheaterman> lordievader: According to the name (and to the operation), I'd say he's doing that for educational purposes :-)
[11:04] <Cheaterman> student: I'd say go in ##kernel, these guys are very good, and they'll likely know everything about the "error bad return code" thingy that you get
hmm it is for educational purpose and thank you for #kernel channel suggestion
[11:06] <student> lordievader:thank you
[11:06] <SupaYoshi> hey
[11:06] <SupaYoshi> im looking for something like ms exchange
[11:07] <SupaYoshi> to sync, email, calendar and contacts
[11:07] <Cheaterman> student: You're welcome :-) I'm sure they'll be able to help you
[11:07] <SupaYoshi> between devices?
[11:07] <SupaYoshi> its for private use, anything recommended?
[11:07] <Cheaterman> SupaYoshi: On the server side?
[11:07] <student> Cheaterman: is there any ckt chat channel ?
[11:07] <card> should i try to use the nvidia driver from the website instead of the one from the ppa?
[11:07] <SupaYoshi> yeah
[11:08] <Cheaterman> student: I don't think so - ##kernel supports just about everything kernel-related, and they'll likely be pleased that you're trying to add a syscall for educational purposes ;-)
[11:08] <Cheaterman> I've even had ALSA support there
[11:08] <student> Cheaterman: hmm
[11:08] <Cheaterman> hmm and blam he's gone
[11:09] <Mike5kt> Hi, what is the synaptic pakage that install the latest java and flash?
[11:09] <Cheaterman> Anyways :-) SupaYoshi the problem (I guess?) is more about calendar/contacts, right?
[11:09] <Cheaterman> Since mail sync is basically IMAP, that you'd get with Sendmail/PostFix
[11:09] <card_> urgghhh now its going white when opening the web browser. i goto reboot after every attempt, super frustrating.
[11:10] <Cheaterman> Mike5kt: Wasn't it something like restricted-extras ? You might also look up "flash" in the Software Center
[11:10] <SupaYoshi> cheatersman, yeah?
[11:10] <Mike5kt> Cheaterman, let me check.. thx
[11:11] <Codmadnesspro> What's wrong with my system? It can't grab anything http://pastebin.com/eH00L8CH
[11:13] <Codmadnesspro> Also there's someone having same problem as me http://www.iredmail.org/forum/topic2197-iredmail-support-ubuntu-cannot-resolve-domains-after-iredmail-installation.html
[11:13] <blb3383> hi, i'm on trusty (kernel v. 3.13.0-*)and have installed kernel v. 3.17.8 from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ because it supports my touchpad out of the box. The problem is that that kernel only supports powersave and performance cpu scalers. How could it happen that this particular kernel dropped support for other scalers like ondemand?
[11:13] <SupaYoshi> Cheaterman, any suggestion?
[11:14] <SupaYoshi> I found OpenChange
[11:14] <SupaYoshi> but that requires stuff i dont need it seems like
[11:17] <Codmadnesspro> Is there a way I can set iptables back to default?
[11:18] <genjix> Codmadnesspro, not sure but iptables -F will delete everything. usually you have a script to set it back up.
[11:18] <sarah1> join # redes2
[11:18] <sarah1> join #redes2
[11:18] <sarah1> join#redes2
[11:18] <Codmadnesspro> sarah1, don't
[11:19] <Codmadnesspro> genjix, if I run that iptables -F will it bring in a default one agian?
[11:19] <Codmadnesspro> It looks like my whole iptables is all messed up since iredmail has touched it
[11:20] <genjix> hi, I've made a local apt copy with apt-mirror, but when i try to install build-essential, it wants libdpkg-perl_1.17.5ubuntu5.3_all.deb but my repo only has libdpkg-perl_1.17.5ubuntu5_all.deb ... here's my apt-mirror setup http://pastebin.com/rVc1kZJb
[11:20] <genjix> does that cover the url http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/d/dpkg/libdpkg-perl_1.17.5ubuntu5.3_all.deb ?
[11:21] <k1l_> sarah1: /join #channel
[11:21] <genjix> sarah1, type this /join #redes2
[11:44] <arcsky> anyone know why doesnt IPv6 address shows in eth0 with landscape-sysinfo ?
[11:45] <shamil_> nessessary129
[11:51] <BluesKaj> Greetings folks
[11:56] <c31r2g> Yelo
[11:59] <ludvigx> ohoy ... does any of you guys have experiance with duplicity and deja-dup ?
[12:00] <c31r2g> Not me
[12:01] <Random_boy> qq all)
[12:02] <ludvigx> aww, bugger. Trying to get duplicity to run the backup serverside and deja-dup to restore files with on the client side
[12:02] <Random_boy> there is always so quiet?
[12:02] <ludvigx> but deja-dup claims no files in dir ( after a bit of wrestling with access rights to the backup files )
[12:09] <KamalKaur> Hello all
[12:09] <KamalKaur> Can you please make me understand what does this log mean: pastie.org/9888536
[12:13] <syednazrulhassan> kamalkaur  type     pgrep mysql     at command promp and see what you get
[12:14] <KamalKaur> syednazrulhassan: I get this: 2236
[12:14] <KamalKaur> 2563
[12:15] <syednazrulhassan> so mysql process is already running
[12:16] <syednazrulhassan> so that means no more process will start
[12:16] <syednazrulhassan> are u on server or local ?
[12:16] <KamalKaur> syednazrulhassan: no
[12:16] <KamalKaur> syednazrulhassan: I'm not getting
[12:16] <KamalKaur> what does the log mean?
[12:17] <syednazrulhassan> log means a process is trying to start for mysql but it is getting closed  due to existing process
[12:19] <KamalKaur> mysql or mysqld?
[12:19] <KamalKaur> Can it be a memory issue?
[12:20] <syednazrulhassan> mysqld  means mysql daemon called as service n windows
[12:20] <syednazrulhassan> you can kill existing process and try starting it again
[12:23] <KamalKaur> syednazrulhassan: DOes that pgrep mean 2 processes are running? What will be the effect of closing them?
[12:24] <syednazrulhassan> yes that means 2 process is running it will shutdown the mysql
[12:26] <KamalKaur> I mean can there be any loss?
[12:28] <Cheaterman> SupaYoshi: Bliblibli
[12:28] <Cheaterman> Went to yumyum
[12:28] <Cheaterman> Hmm, lemme see what FOSS has to offer
[12:29] <Cheaterman> SupaYoshi: Someone mentioned a software called SOGo
[12:29] <Cheaterman> Other than that, apparently, Ubuntu Server is really what you want
[12:29] <Cheaterman> Features (according to the paper I was reading) precisely an Exchange alternative built-in
[12:29] <Cheaterman> Sources: http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/03/8-free-open-source-alternatives-to.html
[12:29] <Cheaterman> And: http://serverfault.com/questions/243848/software-to-share-host-calendar-and-address-book
[12:30] <verbkinm_> _
[12:30] <syednazrulhassan> KamalKaur there will be no loss the mysql engine will be stoppped  and you will have to start manually via command
[12:32] <Cheaterman> verbkinm_: pong
[12:38] <myjoney> hello
[12:53] <AndroUser2> Yello
[12:53] <AndroUser2> Wassup guys
[12:53] <AndroUser2> Anything up good for
[12:56] <ItsMeLenny> my pulseaudio JACK sink seems to work as input, but i dont hear anything from the output
[12:57] <ItsMeLenny> yet youtube videos play (which they usually dont when they have no pulse)
[13:02] <Codmadnesspro> how do i disable iptables?
[13:02] <Cheaterman> Codmadnesspro: You don't really want to.
[13:02] <Codmadnesspro> I need to test if it's not allowing apt-get update to resolve ips
[13:03] <tomodachi> Codmadnesspro: have you created custom rules in your iptables ruleset?
[13:03] <Cheaterman> sudo iptables -L
[13:03] <limingke355653> e
[13:03] <Cheaterman> Codmadnesspro: Type the above command, paste it on pastebin and gimme the link
[13:04] <Cheaterman> If your output is similar to: http://pastebin.com/4ue1t70K
[13:04] <Cheaterman> Then your iptables is harmless
[13:09] <lesshaste> I notice the time on the clock is 4 minutes fast.. doesn't ubuntu sync with a time server?
[13:09] <limingke355653> O:-)
[13:10] <SchrodingersScat> !info ntp | lesshaste
[13:10] <Cheaterman> lesshaste: Isn't your wrist watch 4 minutes late instead? :-)
[13:10] <Cheaterman> SchrodingersScat: Oh no NTP by default, weird
[13:10] <lesshaste> SchrodingersScat,  how do I tell if it is set up and run properly?
[13:11] <SchrodingersScat> lesshaste: you may have to install it first
[13:11] <lesshaste> oh.. so by default there is no ntp??
[13:11] <Cheaterman> lesshaste: ntpq -p IIRC
[13:11] <Cheaterman> lesshaste: apparently :-(
[13:11] <SchrodingersScat> that maybe helped out when there was that little ntp problem
[13:12] <Cheaterman> Talking about that, I have no NTP client on my Gentoo, let's install that.
[13:12] <Cheaterman> Thanks for reminding me lesshaste ^__^
[13:12] <lesshaste> SchrodingersScat,  thanks... so now it is running
[13:12] <lesshaste> when should I expect the time to be fixed?
[13:12] <Cheaterman> lesshaste: In less than a minute. You can type the above command to see if your client is starting to "see" peers
[13:13] <lesshaste> Cheaterman,  thanks I did ntpq -p and it gave me a nice output list
[13:13] <SchrodingersScat> good luck
[13:13] <Cheaterman> lesshaste: NP :-)
[13:14] <[RO]Daniel> hello i have an HP laptop and the wireless connection keeps intrerupting but the icon in the taskbar looks like everything is normal, this happends in 14.10 and LTS as well, can someone help me pls?
[13:15] <hateball> [RO]Daniel: What chipset does it use? run "lspci|grep Network" in a terminal
[13:15] <OpenTokix> [RO]Daniel: I would guess you have ip conflict
[13:15] <hateball> [RO]Daniel: also if you run "dmesg" in a terminal there may be clues as to what your wifi is doing. if it's realtek you may be in for tears
[13:16] <[RO]Daniel> i also tried to set manual ip butno luck its same thing
[13:16] <[RO]Daniel> 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188EE Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01)
[13:17] <hateball> Yes... Realteks linux drivers arent exactly top notch so things like that are to be expected
[13:17] <limingke355653> 你们讲的啥啊
[13:17] <k1l> !cn | limingke355653
[13:18] <[RO]Daniel> :(
[13:19] <hateball> [RO]Daniel: you might have some luck enabling backports-modules, if there's been some improvements lately
[13:19] <[RO]Daniel> you mean from the updates settings?
[13:20] <[RO]Daniel> guess not, i'm talking nonsese eh? :) pls tell me how to do that
[13:20] <hateball> I see that has been deprecated
[13:21] <brothersome> Why is since the last update the pause option disappeared?
[13:22] <limingke355653> D it have a  chinses channel???
[13:22] <hateball> [RO]Daniel: unfortunately I don't really have much advice to offer other than googling for "RTL8188EE + ubuntu". Personally I replaced anything Realtek with Intel or Broadcom but this is probably not viable for everyone
[13:22] <hateball> !cn | limingke355653
[13:23] <[RO]Daniel> since it;s a laptop i dont have that option, just maybe something external...
[13:23] <hateball> [RO]Daniel: well it's usually not very difficult to replace the wifi in HP laptops, but sometimes only the shipped hardware is whitelisted in BIOS
[13:24] <[RO]Daniel> i see...
[13:24] <hateball> A usb dongle is much easier, but you'll have to do some research since most of the cheap crap is realtek...
[13:24] <[RO]Daniel> :) ok, thanks all
[13:28] <Cheaterman> hateball: Most of the "cheap crap" is Realtek, and therefore is easily Linux-compatible
[13:28] <azus> hi everybody
[13:28] <shinzjr> hi azus
[13:28] <Cheaterman> Also, RTL8187 FTW ^__^
[13:29] <Cheaterman> Hi azus, doing good today?
[13:29] <hateball> Cheaterman: Well then, perhaps you could help [RO]Daniel with his Realtek chipset where I cannot
[13:31] <Cheaterman> hateball: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2162026
[13:31] <Cheaterman> It was apparently a single Google Search away :-)
[13:31] <Cheaterman> [RO]Daniel: ↑
[13:31] <data> hi, I have upgraded from kernel 3.16.0-28 to -30. This broke mounting the root partition. Which wouldn't be as bad and debuggable, if the initramfs to which it dropped had a working keyboard. Any ideas?
[13:31] <azus> hi shinzjr Cheaterman i'm fine today
[13:31] <data> I have disabled usb suspend with usbcore.autosuspend=-1
[13:32] <lesshaste> how can I install the debug variables for kile?
[13:32] <Cheaterman> [RO]Daniel: If not, http://askubuntu.com/questions/337785/wireless-not-working-on-toshiba-satellite-c55-a5281
[13:32] <Cheaterman> Generally speaking - it should work with a bit of patience & luck
[13:32] <[RO]Daniel> i found another thing and what you gave me, i will try ....see if something will work thanks again all
[13:33] <Cheaterman> You're welcome [RO]Daniel, good luck with that :-)
[13:33] <stevenm> Can anyone recommend a diff/comparison app like Meld (that's got a GUI, not command line)  -  but one that will also do binary files?
[13:34] <Seidr> I use Beyond Compare.. I _think_ it does binary, but don't quote me on that.
[13:34] <Sycrid> hi guys, does anyone know if there's any channels I can get SVN help on? I can't see any when I search
[13:35] <Seidr> I also think it has a trial..but I'm licensed, so again, don't quote me!
[13:35] <Seidr> Apart from BC, I've also used HxD to compare binaries
[13:35] <hateball> Sycrid: #svn ?
[13:36] <Seidr> Not sure if that has a Linux binary though
[13:36] <Sycrid> hateball: I've set up an svn server on ubuntu and I need some assistance tracking down a file.
[13:36] <Sycrid> (Svn = subversion)
[13:38] <boris> hello
[13:39] <frojnd> Hi there.
[13:39] <hateball> Sycrid: Yes I was suggesting the channel #svn may be helpful
[13:39] <frojnd> I added one ppa:chris-lea/node.js and now I get duplicate source list: http://pastebin.com/Au0zp5UN please advice?
[13:43] <[RO]Daniel> i tried this http://askubuntu.com/questions/452315/problems-with-realtek-rtl8188ee-on-14-04
[13:44] <[RO]Daniel> second answer
[13:44] <[RO]Daniel> it;s working but we'll see for how long :) if not ok i will tri this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2162026 i'll let you know what worked :) thanks again
[13:46] <boris> hello
[13:47] <ablest1980> hello
[13:48] <boris> ssl
[13:49] <MotherMGA> Hello, I believe there was an update for the nouveau driver yesterday and now ubuntu won't use my 2nd monitor.  This is a GeForce 840M on a laptop. Does anyone know how I can get my monitor back?
[13:49] <badcom> Hey guys. When I run "sudo foreman start" I get the error: "/usr/bin/env: ruby: No such file or directory". How can I fix this?
[13:50] <jatt> install ruby
[13:50] <badcom> jatt: it's already installed
[13:50] <jatt> what does
[13:50] <jatt> sudo ruby
[13:50] <jatt> say
[13:51] <badcom> jatt: command not found =X
 hello
[13:51] <p-trust> hey there, i have installed dhcp server and configured it, works fine. But when I unplug and replug the ethernet cable of the client machine , dhcpd configuration interferes with Dhclient causing getting erroneous IP address on eth0
[13:51] <jatt> probably is not in root's path
[13:51] <p-trust> is there any way to avoid such interfering?
[13:52] <ibm> msg jatt hello
[13:52] <badcom> jatt: Where do I go to add it?
[13:52] <jatt> badcom: it's strange on my machine sudo ruby starts ruby
[13:52] <badcom> jatt: I'm running it via a box I set up with Vagrant... that may be the reason...
[13:53] <badcom> jatt: maybe if I reinstall it?
[13:53] <jatt> don't know what Vagrant is... but try to adjust your environment to add the ruby's directory to the PATH
[13:53] <jatt> if you type
[13:53] <jatt> which ruby
[13:53] <jatt> you will get that directory
[13:53] <jatt> if you type it as a normal user
[13:54] <MagneticDuck> a person I know who's using ubuntu has complained of having a little error message in a dialog box saying "System Program Problem Detected" from time to time
[13:54] <MagneticDuck> I .. kinda assume we need more data than that to diagnose the actual problem
[13:54] <badcom> jatt:  will do that. Thanks!
[13:54] <MagneticDuck> so what information should I try to get from his machine?
[13:54] <MagneticDuck> just curious what that error could possibly mean
[13:55] <MagneticDuck> (knowing that pretty much everything that is a problem on linux involves "system programs")
[13:55] <MagneticDuck> all I know is it seems to be coming from .. the "system"
[13:55] <jpentland> What should I do if "kill -9" doesn't kill a process?
[13:55] <MagneticDuck> and the dialog box has an option to send diagnostic data to "the ubuntu people"
[13:55] <MagneticDuck> (quoting him here)
[13:56] <MagneticDuck> jpentland: run as su, then complain at the kernel and RUN FOR YOUR LIFE
[13:56] <badcom> jatt: the odd thing is that if I run "sudo echo $PATH", the path is already there (the one printed by which ruby)
[13:56] <hateball> MagneticDuck: isnt there a "details" button on that error message?
[13:56] <MagneticDuck> hateball: I bet there is
[13:56] <data> I have upgraded from kernel 3.16.0-28 to -30. This broke mounting the root partition. Which wouldn't be as bad and debuggable, if the initramfs to which it dropped had a working keyboard. Any ideas?
[13:56] <jpentland> MagneticDuck, I'm not sure what you mean. I used "sudo kill -9"
[13:56] <hateball> MagneticDuck: iirc that at least tells which process it is
[13:56] <MagneticDuck> but apparently <un-tech savvy guy I'm trying to help> didn't click it
[13:57] <MagneticDuck> hateball: do you think that the error should appear in dmesg?
[13:57] <MagneticDuck> I'm not sure how screwed up ubuntu is ;0
[13:57] <MagneticDuck> jpentland: are you running as SU?
[13:57] <hateball> MagneticDuck: it could be anything, doubt it's logged
[13:57] <jpentland> MagneticDuck, isn't that the same thing as using sudo?
[13:58] <MagneticDuck> *cough*
[13:58] <MagneticDuck> okay, didn't see the sudo for some reason
[13:58] <MagneticDuck> jpentland: .. are we *absolutely sure* there's a process with that PID?
[13:58] <jpentland> I see this in "ps -A": 2000 ?        00:00:00 imx_usb
[13:58] <MagneticDuck> what are you using to get the PID / check if the process is online?
[13:59] <jatt> badcom: strange. explicitly typing:
[13:59] <jatt> sudo /usr/bin/env ruby
[13:59] <jatt> fails in your case isn't it?
[13:59] <MagneticDuck> jpentland: use pkill
[13:59] <MagneticDuck> (to make sure there are no typos being involved)
[13:59] <MagneticDuck> pgrep and pkill
[13:59] <badcom> jatt: yes
[14:00] <badcom> jatt: if you run sudo echo $PATH, is that path in your variables?
[14:00] <jatt> bad and
[14:00] <jatt> sudo /usr/bin/env | grep PATH
[14:00] <jatt> includes the path of ruby?
[14:01] <jpentland> MagneticDuck, I still see the process after using pkill
[14:01] <jatt> yes in my case it includes /usr/bin:
[14:01] <jatt> PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
[14:01] <jatt> which ruby says:
[14:01] <jatt> /usr/bin/ruby
[14:02] <shinzjr> hello
[14:03] <badcom> jatt: this is what I got with the grep command: PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin
[14:04] <badcom> same as you
[14:04] <jatt> badcom: is that from sudo /usr/bin/env | grep PATH
[14:04] <jatt> ?
[14:04] <badcom> yes
[14:04] <jatt> and your ruby is on /usr/bin?
[14:05] <badcom> jatt: it is, but the dir name is ruby1.9.1
[14:06] <badcom> perhaps if I create a symbolic link...
[14:06] <jatt> on my machine is:
[14:06] <jatt> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 Apr 28  2014 ruby -> ruby2.1
[14:06] <SamsaraSoup> Afternoon all
[14:07] <jatt> badcom: actually the alternatives should be automatically set
[14:07] <jatt> badcom: you can try to set the symlink with
[14:07] <jatt> update-alternatives --config ruby
[14:07] <badcom> jatt: here it is -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root       5572 Nov 19 21:43 ruby1.9.1*
[14:08]  * ibm
[14:08] <jatt> badcom: can you try the update-alternatives command? it should allow you to set the symlink. if that doesn't work set the symlink manually
[14:09] <badcom> jatt: I got this "update-alternatives: error: no alternatives for ruby". Don't I have to type ruby1.9.1 instead?
[14:09] <jatt> hmm not. it should be ruby... are you using ubuntu :-)?
[14:09] <jatt> anyway try to set it manually then
[14:09] <badcom> jatt: yep =P
[14:09] <jatt> the ruby->ruby1.9.1 symlink
[14:09] <ibm> exit
[14:10] <jatt> or try to run sudo apt-get install ruby
[14:13] <badcom> jatt: Although it's all very weird, that did the trick. thanks a lot =)
[14:16] <kanupatar> how to clean a history of a user by that user?
[14:17] <aliass> nick Stranger
[14:17] <EriC^^> kanupatar: echo > ~/.bash_history
[14:17] <k1l> kanupatar: can you rephrase that? do you mean the bash history?
[14:18] <kanupatar> k1l: yes yes
[14:18]  * aliass
[14:18] <k1l> kanupatar: its stored in the .bash_history file in that users home. see EriC^^s command
[14:20] <kanupatar> EriC^^: need to clean it
[14:20] <EriC^^> kanupatar: you want to select what you remove?
[14:20] <kanupatar> EriC^^: need to clean the entire history of me
[14:20] <EriC^^> kanupatar: that will erase it all, except for the commands in the current shell
[14:20] <EriC^^> kanupatar: type echo > ~/.bash_history , then type kill $$ when you want to leave the shell
[14:21] <EriC^^> it won't save the commands of the current session
[14:21] <kanupatar> EriC^^: no..I want the previous history
[14:22] <EriC^^> i dont follow
[14:22] <EriC^^> what do you mean?
[14:22] <kanupatar> I got
[14:22] <kanupatar> history -c
[14:24] <EriC^^> kanupatar: that will only erase the ones that you're using right now
[14:24] <EriC^^> they will be back the next time you login, is that what you want?
[14:24] <kanupatar> EriC^^: oops
[14:24] <kanupatar> EriC^^: please paste the command
[14:25] <EriC^^> you can type echo > ~/.bash_history
[14:25] <kanupatar> EriC^^: ok
[14:26] <kanupatar> EriC^^: done
[14:27] <EriC^^> kanupatar: ok, type HISTFILESIZE=0
[14:27] <EriC^^> that way the current commands you just did wont be saved
[14:28] <EriC^^> ( if that's a desired effect )
[14:29] <butch128> I just upgraded a server which I use for Socks5/port forwarding using openssh, am now getting "administratively prohibited: open failed".  I have added to /etc/sshd/ssh_config AllowTcpForwarding yes already. My /var/log/auth.log is giving me the error "refused local port forward: originator <IP_ADDRESS> port ...".  Does anyone know what else I can try?
[14:30] <ablest1980> does ubuntu come with a e book reader?
[14:30] <EriC^^> ablest1980: yes
[14:30] <EriC^^> pdf reader
[14:31] <ablest1980> ok
[14:33] <data> hi, I have upgraded from kernel 3.16.0-28 to -30. This broke mounting the root partition. Which wouldn't be as bad and debuggable, if the initramfs to which it dropped had a working keyboard. Any ideas?
[14:33] <javnut> how can I mount a partition with a script?
[14:33] <javnut> I tried the mount command
[14:34] <butch128> javnut: is the script +x?  do you have #!/bin/bash at the top of it?
[14:34] <javnut> butch128: yes
[14:34] <butch128> javnut: huh, should work just like running the command from the console then
[14:34] <butch128> does the same command work from the console/
[14:35] <javnut> butch128: no, it says I need to be root
[14:35] <butch128> ah
[14:35] <javnut> which is odd, because I can mount it just by opening it in nautilus
[14:35] <butch128> that's why it's not working, try sudo ...command...
[14:35] <javnut> butch128: yeah, but sudo won't work in a script (will it?)
[14:35] <butch128> sure it will, but the script will prompt you for a root password
[14:35] <SchrodingersScat> you can add sudo to a script, it will just prompt you when necessary
[14:35] <butch128> (at least, I think it will)
[14:36] <javnut> ok, so why don't I need to be root when I mount it through GUIs like nautilus?
[14:36] <SchrodingersScat> idk
[14:36] <javnut> just so I understand the mechanics
[14:36] <javnut> SchrodingersScat: eww.
[14:36] <k1l> javnut: gvfs handles that for you in nautilus
[14:37] <SchrodingersScat> huh, and sure enough there's a man gvfs
[14:38] <mahdi_ja> hi all.
[14:39] <EriC^^> javnut: why are you mounting it in a script and not fstab?
[14:39] <mahdi_ja> i have ubuntu 14.04 and after updated it tonight this process get a lot of cpu usage :"mediascanner-service-2.0
[14:40] <javnut> EriC^^: my script does several things
[14:40] <butch128> Eric^^:  he could only want it mounted sometimes
[14:40] <EriC^^> javnut: if you want to make a script to mount it you can run the script with sudo , sudo ./script.sh
[14:40] <javnut> and what butch128 said applies as well
[14:40] <EriC^^> you'll have to type the password once
[14:41] <EriC^^> javnut: otherwise add it to fstab and have it noauto,users in the options so it doesn't automount, and then you can mount it without root privileges
[14:41] <EriC^^> with mount /mountpoint
[14:41] <EriC^^> ( anybody can )
[14:42] <hateball> There's also autofs, if one prefers that
[14:42] <javnut> EriC^^: I can already mount it without root priveleges
[14:42] <javnut> just by opening it it mounts it
[14:43] <ShinzJr> hi sayurelektronik
[14:43] <EriC^^> javnut: that's cause nautilus uses gvfs as k1l mentioned
[14:43] <Cheaterman> lesshaste: Also
[14:43] <Cheaterman> I've been advised by my buddies to use another ntp client
[14:43] <Cheaterman> It's called Chrony and it kicks a$$
[14:45] <lesshaste> Cheaterman, didn't we already cover chrony?
[14:45] <Cheaterman> lesshaste: What do you mean? We were talking about ntp-client -the "normal" implementation
[14:45] <Cheaterman> Hence you using ntpq -p
[14:45] <Cheaterman> Instead of a chronyc command
[14:46] <mahdi_ja> any one can help me
[14:46] <Cheaterman> Chrony is ntpclient on steroids, particularly useful if you don't have internet 24/7
[14:46] <Cheaterman> (therefore particularly useful on laptops and mobile devices)
[14:46] <Cheaterman> mahdi_ja: We all can :-)
[14:46] <mahdi_ja>  mediascanner-service-2.0  get 100% of cpu usage and cause hight temp
[14:47] <EriC^^> javnut: you can use udisksctl mount -b /dev/sdxY
[14:47] <Cheaterman> mahdi_ja: Kill it :-)
[14:47] <EriC^^> javnut: it will mount it without root privileges under /media/<user>
[14:47] <javnut> ok, nice
[14:47] <javnut> that's what I wanted
[14:47] <mahdi_ja> Cheaterman, and after reboot system ?
[14:48] <mahdi_ja> Cheaterman, i kill it and another service with this name get 100% of cpu usage "mediascanner-se
[14:52] <Cheaterman> mahdi_ja: Did it die though?
[14:54] <hardtail> Does anybody use Ubuntu for any intensive graphic use? I want to get a new laptop soon and I am deciding between a new MacBook Pro or a machine dedicated to running Ubuntu.
[14:54] <Whitor> Hi all, I'm on 14.04 an dI'm looking to browse a remote network... is this possible? and if so, how?
[14:54] <hateball> hardtail: Graphic in what way? Digital art?
[14:55] <Cheaterman> Whitor: It's very possible indeed :-) define "browse" and "remote network"
[14:55] <jatt> Whitor: a windows remote network?
[14:55] <tomodachi> Whitor: browse how?!  what is it you expect to see when you browe it?
[14:55] <Cheaterman> mahdi_ja: Maybe disable the service altogether - also check if it's not the same process that you tried to "TERM" instead of "KILL"
[14:55] <Cheaterman> tomodachi: =^__^=
[14:55] <hardtail> hateball Yessir, specifically Adobe products and Autodesk.
[14:56] <Cheaterman> hardtail: You don't intend to use the FOSS alternatives to these,
[14:56] <Whitor> I am connected via ip to this network, They are simply on the otherside of an ipsec tunnel. We can ignore that... I can connect to seervers directly on either side. but, I'd like to 'browse' as defined in the menu bar in nautilus...
[14:56] <hateball> hardtail: you're going to have to find replacements
[14:56] <hateball> otherwise it wont be much fun
[14:56] <Whitor> Cheaterman, ^^
[14:56] <Cheaterman> hateball: Not necessarily, but the performance will be Windows-like, not better
[14:57] <hardtail> Cheaterman I did not want to use replacements for them no.
[14:57] <Cheaterman> Whitor: Browse what? FTP?
[14:57] <Cheaterman> Whitor: Or browse the topology?
[14:57] <Cheaterman> What protocol do you need?
[14:57] <hardtail> It's possible to achieve reasonable performance?
[14:58] <Cheaterman> hardtail: Yes
[15:00] <hardtail> Cheaterman where should I begin to test this out? If I can make a decent setup work then I will start looking for the right notebook.
[15:01] <Cheaterman> hardtail: And in a near future (or with an experimental WINE version w/ even more experimental patches) you could get better perf than Windows
[15:01] <Cheaterman> I don't quite remember the name of the thingy, but #winehq will likely help you find out
[15:01] <Cheaterman> hardtail: I still encourage you to try our open source alternatives, which are generally speaking much faster, and better for professional use
[15:01] <Cheaterman> Of course if you want to do small things (less than 4k² resolution in Photoshop, and basic vector drawing in Illustrator) you don't need them
[15:01] <Cheaterman> If you wanna do serious stuff, you'll have to consider it though
[15:01] <Cheaterman> hateball: The problem is the state-of-the-art support for your SPECIFIC version of the app
[15:01] <Cheaterman> hateball: to check compatibility: http://appdb.winehq.org
[15:01] <hardtail> Cheaterman if I have good hardware will that help for more serious situations or is that all on the wrapper, wine?
[15:02] <Cheaterman> hateball: Well, Photoshop → GIMP, Illustrator → InkScape
[15:02] <cfhowlett> hateball, I missed your initial query.  looks like multimedia type stuff.  see #ubuntustudio as well.
[15:02] <Cheaterman> all of the above is for you hardtail, not hateball
[15:02] <Cheaterman> hardtail: Better hardware always helps as usual
[15:02] <Cheaterman> hardtail: but some stuff has worse support than others, refer to the appdb for more information
[15:02] <Cheaterman> (I gave you the link above)
[15:02] <cfhowlett> hardtail, more ram + better gpu = good!
[15:02] <valver> hello im running lubuntu 14.10 , with kernel 3.16 generic    Im trying to read from video device, im getting this error:  $~$ cat /dev/video0
[15:02] <valver> cat: /dev/video0: Invalid argument
[15:02] <valver> $~$ dd if=/dev/video0
[15:02] <valver> dd: error reading ‘/dev/video0’: Invalid argument
[15:02] <valver> 0+0 records in
[15:02] <valver> 0+0 records out
[15:03] <mcphail> hardtail: laptops and graphics packages are a bad mix. Getting the screen calibrated can be a nightmare. Your colours are going to be all over the place
[15:03] <Cheaterman> cfhowlett: Actually, CPU is much more limiting for digital art
[15:03] <Cheaterman> cfhowlett: (than GPU - better RAM is always good)
[15:03] <cfhowlett> Cheaterman, that too.  :)
[15:03] <hardtail> Cheaterman my current desktop that I am talking to you guys on is fully setup for 4k production. The main work will be done on here, but the notebook for development and some basic manipulation.
[15:03] <hardtail> Thank you I will take a look through that link!
[15:03] <Guest74614> OS:Ubuntu 14.10 64 bit.I have disabled the online search results(Dash) from Security and Privacy but they still pop up.How can i fix that?
[15:04] <Cheaterman> mcphail: This is correct
[15:04] <hardtail> I just really....loathe Windows and do not want to use it anymore.
[15:04] <Cheaterman> My screen has a rendering of colors that's tremendously different from what it's supposed to look like
[15:04] <Cheaterman> hardtail: ↑
[15:04] <hardtail> ok
[15:04] <Cheaterman> hardtail: I still encourage you to try the open source alternatives: Photoshop → GIMP, Illustrator → Inkscape
[15:05] <hardtail> yes I understand
[15:05] <Cheaterman> hardtail: And as it comes to colors, trust your desktop more than your laptop and you should be fine :-)
[15:05] <hardtail> I really do not want to use Blender, I think Maya even natively compiles to Ubuntu
[15:05] <cfhowlett> Cheaterman,  for examples of possibilities: gimp magazine and blender magazine.  also see: big buck bunny and tears of steel
[15:05] <mcphail> hardtail: Yes - you can use Maya on Linux but Blender is far ahead of it in many ways
[15:06] <Cheaterman> (It's worth mentioning the above alternatives also work on Windows)
[15:06] <mcphail> hardtail: far less documentation out there for Blender than Maya, though
[15:07] <hardtail> what do you mean mcphail, blender runs better or the package is more advanced?
[15:07] <Cheaterman> hardtail: what cfhowlett said :-)
[15:07] <cfhowlett> mcphail, reallly?  http://www.amazon.com/s/177-3335153-4799133?ie=UTF8&field-keywords=%20blender%20graphics%20&index=blended&link_code=qs&sourceid=Mozilla-search&tag=wwwcanoniccom-20
[15:08] <Cheaterman> cfhowlett: Been using Blender3D for the past 10 years ^^ you preach a convinced man :-)
[15:08] <Cheaterman> (I even used it as audio editor one day xD)
[15:08] <cfhowlett> :)  Cheaterman overjoyed to hear it.  I'm only now starting.
[15:08] <Rumpelstilzchen> So I installed ubuntu, opened dash to searched for something and got some results from Amazon as results. Why this spyware? How to turn that off?
[15:08] <Cheaterman> hardtail: Blender has more features, and better ones
[15:08] <compdoc> we dont allow preaching in here :/
[15:08] <Cheaterman> Also the statement about documentation is not exactly valid
[15:09] <hardtail> I just cannot get over using the interface with Blender. I'm not saying it is bad in anyway, I've just been accustomed to Autodesk for so long
[15:09] <EriC^^> !spyqare | Rumpelstilzchen
[15:09] <EriC^^> !spyware | Rumpelstilzchen
[15:09] <Cheaterman> hardtail: You can set up the Blender UI just like Maya
[15:09] <Cheaterman> Same for the hotkeys ;-)
[15:09] <Cheaterman> There's a builtin preset for Maya users to have a smooth transition
[15:09] <mcphail> hardtail: until you use Blender to take you through a whole project, you won't appreciate how far ahead it is from Maya. Going back to Maya is like going back to the dark ages
[15:09] <Cheaterman> No more excuses! :P
[15:09] <Pici> !adlens | Rumpelstilzchen EriC^^
[15:09] <Cheaterman> hardtail: ^ what mcphail said
[15:09] <cfhowlett> Rumpelstilzchen, spyware?  no.  disable?  yes
[15:09] <EriC^^> Pici: thanks :)
[15:10] <Pici> np
[15:10] <hardtail> Haha damn
[15:10] <Cheaterman> hardtail: This is mostly true for all your typical proprietary tools
[15:10] <Cheaterman> Not only 3D editor
[15:10] <Rumpelstilzchen> Thanks pici. Why isnt this disabled by default? :(
[15:10] <Pici> Rumpelstilzchen: because politics.
[15:11] <cfhowlett> Rumpelstilzchen, I seem to recall that as of 14.10 it is disabled by default ...
[15:11] <hardtail> Well first thing first...I have a second SSD free that I was working on a Hackintosh with. Gonna install Ubuntu on it and try to setup my software. If I can get comfortable with it then no need to get a Mac Laptop.
[15:12] <Rumpelstilzchen> I see. Thanks again.
[15:12] <mcphail> hardtail: I would say, though, if you are commited to Adoba and Autodesk products, Ubuntu may not be the best operating system for you. You're always going to be fighting with packages which are unsupported on the platform
[15:12] <mcphail> *Adobe
[15:13] <cfhowlett> hardtail, found it:  http://lifehacker.com/5976725/build-your-own-adobe-creative-suite-with-free-and-cheap-software
[15:13] <hardtail> mcphail I would say that for me it is set in stone to use Adobe products, I have been for 16 years and it's just not going to change anytime soon. Blender IS an option for me though.
[15:13] <hardtail> cfhowlett thanks!
[15:14] <mcphail> hardtail: then, my advice would be to have Ubuntu as a 2nd OS rather than the primary
[15:14] <cfhowlett> hardtail, happy2help
[15:15] <aliass> can anyone help me
[15:15] <Cheaterman> cfhowlett: Lulz
[15:15] <Cheaterman> cfhowlett: he specifically said he's not moving away from Adobe products :P
[15:15] <aliass> is naybody using irssi from longtime
[15:16] <Cheaterman> aliass: me iz
[15:16] <cfhowlett> Cheaterman, *whisper mode* I know but ...
[15:16] <Cheaterman> cfhowlett: :DDD
[15:16] <hardtail> Thanks you two. mcphail, so you think it would be a waste of time to "test" these software packages then?
[15:16] <Cheaterman> hardtail: It's not a waste of time if you're prepared for a struggle, but it's definitely gonna be easier on Windows yeah
[15:17] <Cheaterman> Adobe are the last M$ fans around - all serious editors are starting to turn to Linux
[15:17] <Cheaterman> (see Valve)
[15:17] <hardtail> yes hmm
[15:20] <Rumpelstilzchen> Ok, one last question: How can I disable/remove the unity launcher without breaking the whole panel and dash? I checked autohide, top left corner and so that it doesnt pop out when i move the mouse there, but it still pops up when I try to drag and drop something.
[15:22] <mcphail> hardtail: +1 to what Cheaterman said ^
[15:29] <care> hello
[15:30] <care> hello???
[15:30] <care> is anyone alive
[15:30] <care> like
[15:30] <care> ....
[15:30] <treehug88> care: what’s up
[15:30] <somsip> !ask | care
[15:30] <treehug88> just ask your question
[15:31] <care> i don't have a question, more less trying to connect to other people on this planet.
[15:31] <theadmin> care: This is a techsupport channel though :P
[15:31] <theadmin> care: Try #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish.
[15:31] <cfhowlett> care, this is ubuntu support.  chitchat/socializing is elsewhere
[15:31] <care> haha. in that case how do i change channel ?
[15:31] <theadmin> care: /join #new_channel_name
[15:32] <care> cheers
[15:32] <theadmin> care: In most clients, clicking on a channel name posted by someone else also works
[15:34] <bg123> hey anyone here good with network cards?
[15:34] <bg123> anyone here?
[15:35] <theadmin> bg123: Just ask your question
[15:35] <cfhowlett> !ask | bg123
[15:35] <bg123> i pilfered an intel 7260 wireless ac chip from another mobo and the i/o shield doesnt fit my case. is there somewhere i can buy all the connections and brackets for a wireless adapter minus the chip?
[15:36] <cfhowlett> bg123, why ask here?  this is ubuntu software support.
[15:36] <somsip> bg123: this is an ubuntu support channel, not general electronics help
[15:36] <Cheaterman> Rumpelstilzchen: So as I was saying, i'm afraid Unity isn't very configurable
[15:36] <Cheaterman> But my internetz... :x
[15:36] <bg123> because you people are knowledgeable
[15:36] <bg123> http://imagescdn.tweaktown.com/content/6/2/6209_28_cooler_master_elite_110_mini_itx_chassis_review.jpg
[15:36] <bg123> this is my case see the expansion back plates on the right?
[15:37] <cfhowlett> bg123, man, that's just lazy.  fry's electronics or the shack.  look it up.
[15:37] <Cheaterman> bg123: Is this a good reason for offtopic?
[15:37] <Cheaterman> bg123: Go ##hardware
[15:37] <somsip> bg123: you're offtopic so please stop asking here. Find an appropriate channel
[15:37] <somsip> !alis | bg123
[15:37] <bg123> i have asked everywhere and nobody can help
[15:37] <Cheaterman> bg123: ##hardware can
[15:37] <Cheaterman> Please join it
[15:37] <Cheaterman> Also you didn't ask anywhere, you're only joined on #ubuntu right now
[15:37] <Cheaterman> ;-)
[15:38] <Cheaterman> You're welcome.
[15:38] <Cheaterman> Anyways I'm back buddies \o/
[15:38] <Cheaterman> Using a hotspot isn't always ideal haha
[15:39] <Cheaterman> I should actually have used the interruption to check my Chrony status - not sure my connection-hook-scripts are working yet
[15:40] <somsip> Cheaterman: didn't you just criticise someone for going OT...?
[15:40] <somsip> Cheaterman: quite rightly I would add
[15:41] <Cheaterman> somsip: That's correct indeed? I've not been asking for help about said scripts though
[15:41] <somsip> Cheaterman: lets all get back on topic then
[15:41] <Cheaterman> somsip: Also, the first thing I did when joining was resuming my support session where I left it out
[15:41] <Cheaterman> Sure.
[15:41] <care> i have a quiestion, how do i post a message in the "##chat" room?
[15:42] <somsip> care: /join ##chat
[15:42] <care> thanks
[15:43] <care> ah but i keep getting this message: ##chat :Cannot send to channel, what should i do if i wish to post a message?
[15:43] <somsip> !register | care
[15:44] <Vyom> sup people?
[15:44] <somsip> !ask | Vyom
[15:44] <care> i believe i have registered, the thing is i have done the processes but it still comes up with this message,
[15:44] <somsip> care: Registration help available by  typing /join #freenode
[15:44] <care> ok
[15:44] <jsmith-argotec> How would you figure out what versions of libraries were installed with the original release version of a package?
[15:45] <somsip> jsmith-argotec: you mean, not the current libs for the current package?
[15:45] <Cheaterman> somsip: I think Vyom was merely greeting people - you don't have to be overly strict about things.
[15:45] <Cheaterman> (And we generally appreciate people saying hello before asking a question ;-)  )
[15:45] <jsmith-argotec> somsip: yes - not what is currently installed
[15:45] <jsmith-argotec> hello all!
[15:45] <Vyom> Oh sorry. This is not a question.. but want toshare. I am trying to switch to Ubuntu. And thought to document the process for those people who are migrating from Windows, but find it difficult. So here's my articles: http://vineetkumar.me/technology/ubuntu/ :)
[15:46] <somsip> Vyom: not really the place to do that. Maybe make a post on ubuntui forums
[15:46] <somsip> jsmith-argotec: what package and version, in case it helps?
[15:47] <jsmith-argotec> somsip: if I installed 12.04 from original discs and installed pacemaker what would the library versions be
[15:47] <somsip> !info pacemaker precise
[15:47] <Vyom> somsip: yea I tried to do that. Forum does have a Tutorials section.. but there tehre was this rule that you cant post links to blogs, but you have to write the article (the full article) there itself. But don't think if the articles I wrote are even worth a dime .. :P
[15:47] <Cheaterman> care: It is possible that you registered but didn't identify. But as earlier mentioned, this likely belongs to #freenode ;-)
[15:47] <Cheaterman> Vyom: You might want to fix your DNS
[15:47] <jsmith-argotec> somsip: having issues with the services and I believe its a library mismatch (upgraded from security most likely) trying to sort it out
[15:48] <jsmith-argotec> ubottu: 3.3 is the updated version
[15:48] <cfhowlett> Vyom, this isn't the place.  submit it to www.fullcirclemagazine.org
[15:48] <Vyom> Thanks cfhowlett. And Cheaterman: What's the problem with my DNS?
[15:48] <elmehdi> any buddy here
[15:48] <somsip> jsmith-argotec: packages do not tend to be broken in that way if you only use official repos. Do you have anything installed from a PPA?
[15:48] <jsmith-argotec> !info pacemaker precise
[15:49] <somsip> !ask | elmehdi
[15:49] <somsip> jsmith-argotec: there's always the 'asking a question' link on the launchpad page http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/admin/pacemaker
[15:49] <ihsw> !info redis-server precise
[15:51] <Vyom> Sorry again.. this is no question.. but wanted to share this.. Linux Torvald just shared that he finally bought a coffee machine. He had an outbreak recently, where he was worried about not getting coffee when required. :P He's have a good sense of humor.
[15:51] <Vyom> Linus*
[15:51] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | Vyom
[15:52] <minas114> somehow my nautilus settings changed and the default is now showing hidden files by default. Changing the option using CTRL + h works only temporarily, until I close nautilus and reopen it.
[15:52] <mcphail> Vyom: please stop
[15:52] <somsip> Vyom: very much off topic here. #ubuntu-offtopic is the place for that
[15:52] <jsmith-argotec> somsip: no I do not have anything from PPA's.  There is actually an SRU for an issue with pacemaker that refers to needing exact match libraries but it's only applied as far back as Trusty
[15:52] <rymate1234> if i'm dual booting ubuntu and windows 8 on a UEFI machine, what should the size of my EFI partition be?
[15:52] <mcphail> jsmith-argotec: do you know which version you need?
[15:53] <jsmith-argotec> mcphail:  1.1.6-2ubuntu3
[15:54] <jsmith-argotec> mcphail: I downgraded back to that version from 3.3 but I believe there was a library that was updated (probably from security) that could be causing the issue
[15:54] <jsmith-argotec> that is why I was trying to check the original versions and verify
[15:54] <BackBox> hi
[15:54] <somsip> jsmith-argotec: sounds like one for the maintainers if there is a bug or some other conflict to resolve
[15:55] <mcphail> jsmith-argotec: aah. But you don't know what library is breaking things?
[15:55] <ihsw> dude says hi and promptly leaves... lol
[15:56] <jsmith-argotec> mcphail: no not sure... log output isn't very helpful and havent had much else to go on from #ubuntu-ha either. I ran strace and have some output around the time of the error but not real sure what I'm looking at/for
[15:56] <jsmith-argotec> somsip: I agree but I need/want (in production machines) to fix and verify that's the issue first
[15:56] <mcphail> jsmith-argotec: that will make diagnosis very tricky. Do you know when the problems started?
[15:56] <pream> Hi everyone
[15:56] <pream> I need a new laptop, any suggestions
[15:57] <jsmith-argotec> mcphail: yes the server was fenced and after restart it exhibited this problem with rejoining the cluster.
[15:57] <glogic> pream: I would suggest #hardware
[15:57] <bazhang> pream, ##hardware
[15:57] <jsmith-argotec> mcphail: I found it booted with the wrong kernel but after correcting that it still has the problem
[15:58] <somsip> jmoiron: if you say youre not sure what youre looking for, contacting the maintainers seems like the step to take. But I've said my bit and will leave mcphail to discuss finer details with you
[15:58] <pream> thanks
[15:59] <somsip> jsmith-argotec: if you say youre not sure what youre looking for, contacting the maintainers seems like the step to take. But I've said my bit and will leave mcphail to discuss finer details with you
[15:59] <mcphail> jsmith-argotec: someone more knowledgeable than me will be able to give you the invocation to list everthing in your apt-get history. You might be able to track down the offending update from there