[12:00] <ompaul> shynewbie, hoary?
[12:00] <moparfan90> does anyone know how to make your self a root in terminal WITHOUT doing sudo before the command??
[12:00] <shynewbie> yes, ompaul
[12:00] <erUSUL> MrBear, ls /dev/snd/
[12:00] <moparfan90> !sudo
[12:00] <ubotu> methinks sudo is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[12:01] <MrBear> ls: /dev/snd/: No such file or directory
[12:01] <MrBear> [1] +  Exit 255                gnome-volume-control
[12:01] <crimsun> occy: search for any linux-image* and linux-restricted-modules* packages and purge them
[12:01] <MrBear> so basically I got no exit door right?
[12:02] <ompaul> shynewbie, try a reinstall and when it gets to the point where it asks you to press enter - or type server - type server when it is finished type 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' that should deal with that problem (common on some early burnt disks)
[12:02] <Fubarred> when I VNC into my box, the display is quite small is there a way to increase it?
[12:02] <ompaul> moparfan90, why would you want to that?
[12:02] <shynewbie> i will try that. but i just burned the disk today.
[12:02] <moparfan90> nvm
[12:02] <newunbunteiro>  both real player and mplayer work fine as aplications, but i can't get sound from their plug-ins in firefox
[12:02] <ompaul> shynewbie, well give it a shot
[12:03] <cute_bettong> wow fluxbox is really neat
[12:03] <cute_bettong> now i have a gui what can i do to fix this problem with ice?
[12:03] <cute_bettong> in breezy?
[12:03] <topyli> cute_bettong: yes it is sweet. i used it for a while, but i really used to be a huge enlightenment fan
[12:03] <shynewbie> ompaul, will that procedure give me the regular stuff i'm supposed to get after installation?
[12:03] <erUSUL> MrBear, for some reason the device files doesn't exist
[12:03] <mustafu> will ubuntu fit comfortably on a 3GB drive?
[12:04] <MrBear> well I dont know how
[12:04] <crimsun> mustafu: it'll be tight, but 'ubuntu-desktop' will fit fine
[12:04] <hydrogen> yes
[12:04] <cute_bettong> so do i continue to use fluxbox and not fix this stupid ice problem or what?
[12:04] <MrBear> I had no problems with the install
[12:04] <cute_bettong> all my important stuff is in gnome
[12:04] <hydrogen> I've got 2.2 gigs currently with a fairly robust system... course my home directory is empty, but :/
[12:04] <cute_bettong> and i really need to get back there
[12:04] <fblade> guys wonder if one of you could explain, how come i can get sound on my desktop programes like gaim andothers but not in games?
[12:04] <topyli> cute_bettong: all your important stuff should be in your home directory. gnome has nothing to do with it
[12:05] <hydrogen> probably a sound mixing problem?
[12:05] <cute_bettong> ok
[12:05] <crimsun> fblade: more than likely your games are requesting exclusive /dev/dsp access
[12:05] <topyli> cute_bettong: but you might as well try and fix gnome :)
[12:05] <russ> Can anyone help me with my microphone looping back on my sblive card?
[12:05] <cute_bettong> so what do i do about this ICE error that kicks me outta gnome in 10 seconds
[12:05] <hydrogen> anyway to get bootsplash to work?
[12:05] <crimsun> fblade: if you haven't configured sound (default Ubuntu install), then esd grabs /dev/dsp
[12:06] <crimsun> fblade: in other words, just use esdctl to stop esd before you play your game(s)
[12:06] <hydrogen> or setup dmix :0
[12:06] <crimsun> hydrogen: dmix will not work with dmixed oss-emulated apps
[12:06] <topyli> cute_bettong: you might have to clean up some auth files from your home dir and /tmp. it's a great nuisance :(
[12:06] <erUSUL> cute_bettong, i remember this happening to me. you have to delete a temp file but i can't remember which file
[12:07] <cute_bettong> ok so how do i call up whats going wrong
[12:07] <chavo> just delete everything in /tmp
[12:07] <lsuactiafner> anyone having trouble with gl2 hanging the system?
[12:07] <cute_bettong> ok
[12:07] <topyli> cute_bettong: start with ~/.ICEauthority :)
[12:07] <lsuactiafner> like q3a or mplayer -vo gl2
[12:08] <erUSUL> topyli, yes that file is the culprit
[12:08] <chavo> make sure to get /tmp/.ICE-unix as it is hidden
[12:08] <sean783> Is there a non-free DPKG available from a repository to install the ATI fglrx drivers, or do I need to download the rpm and alien it from ati.com?
[12:08] <cute_bettong> ok how do i get to where my files and folders are in fluxbox?
[12:08] <ompaul> how do I  grab all the data that would be useful to diagnose an install that refused to deal with my network card? [what is really annoying is that the liveCD worked]
[12:09] <fblade> whats esdctl?
[12:09] <russ> cute_bettong, go back to gnome
[12:09] <topyli> cute_bettong: open a terminal window and remove those files with rm
[12:09] <crimsun> (way to stick around there)
[12:09] <cute_bettong> ok
[12:09] <lsuactiafner> anyone having trouble with gl2 hanging the system?
[12:09] <lsuactiafner> like q3a or mplayer -vo gl2
[12:09] <jacaru> Hello all. My issue: When I save a file creating a folder from the "Save as" Gnome dialog, the file name field is cleared. This annoys me a lot. Anyone noticed?
[12:09] <cute_bettong> so remove all the files in /tmp ?
[12:10] <topyli> cute_bettong: no, just the ones related to ICE.
[12:10] <grimse_> is there a way to use wpa_supplicant with cisco's airo-driver?
[12:10] <mustafu> will the default FS in Breezy still be ext3?
[12:10] <topyli> cute_bettong: use 'ls -la' to see all the hidden files and their owners
[12:10] <topyli> then rm them
[12:10] <crimsun> mustafu: yes
[12:10] <cute_bettong> kk
[12:11] <cute_bettong> k brb
[12:12] <mustafu> !tell me about mountwindows
[12:12] <MrBear> should install breezy then?
[12:13] <abarbaccia> hey all
[12:13] <russ> Can anyone help me with my microphone looping back on my sblive card?
[12:13] <Badboy> hey anyone know how to solve the problem about Error 25, I installed the ubunto OS, and it starts to load from the Hard Drive, but stops and says error 25
[12:13] <adamhill> can someone running the Breezy 5.10 preview, confirm the sk98lin module is in the kernel?
[12:14] <fblade> sorry guys whats esdctl ?
[12:14] <Badboy> hey anyone know how to solve the problem about Error 25, I installed the ubunto OS, and it starts to load from the Hard Drive, but stops and says error 25 I really need some help
[12:15] <crimsun> fblade: it's a utility to control e
[12:15] <crimsun> sd
[12:15] <hydrogen> adamhill: I am not seeing it
[12:15] <fblade> how do i run/use it?
[12:15] <ompaul> fblade - anything with ctl in it is is usually control esd is enhanced sound daemon (yes it is spelt correctly :))
[12:16] <hydrogen> printing keeps freezing at that number when trying to print a test page :(
[12:16] <fblade> okies sohow can i use it so i can get sound working in games?
[12:16] <Badboy> hey anyone know how to solve the problem about Error 25, I installed the ubunto OS, and it starts to load from the Hard Drive, but stops and says error 25 I really need help please...........
[12:16] <hydrogen> Badboy: if you asked any more often you still wouldn't get a response any sooner
[12:17] <ompaul> anyone have a one liner that I can use with a live CD to kill off X?
[12:17] <crimsun> fblade: there are a couple ways, the easiest is probably System> Preferences> Sound> uncheck Enable sound server startup
[12:17] <crimsun> ompaul: the same you'd use for an installed one
[12:17] <Coag> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[12:17] <Coag> kernel?
[12:17] <ompaul> crimsun, for that you can lart me :)
[12:17] <Coag> have any idea what that would be?
[12:17] <ompaul> !lart ompaul
[12:18] <SlicerDicer-> is there anyway to remove gcc 3.4 as default? I mean it seems that if I remove it I remove 90% of my system
[12:18] <SlicerDicer-> it hates me!
[12:18] <SlicerDicer-> err gcc 4.0 rather
[12:18] <Badboy> well, does anyone know a good linux os that can create a server???
[12:18] <crimsun> Coag: linux-headers-$(uname -r) installs a symlink, /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build
[12:18] <SlicerDicer-> not 3.4 I need 3.4 as default haha
[12:18] <fblade> but wont that stop me using the sound full stop?
[12:18] <winner> does anyone know how to get portage on ubuntu?
[12:18] <Coag> /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build
[12:18] <crimsun> fblade: no, only esd-based ones while you're playing your game(s)
[12:18] <SlicerDicer-> winner, sure but it will blow your system apart
[12:18] <Coag> that is where?
[12:19] <winner> SlicerDicer-: damn.
[12:19] <winner> yeah i might as well run Gentoo huh?
[12:19] <crimsun> Coag: it's provided by the linux-headers-$(uname -r) package
[12:19] <SlicerDicer-> winner, I know from experience I was bored :P
[12:19] <crimsun> Coag: the location, of course, is /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build
[12:19] <winner> SlicerDicer-: haha thanks
[12:19] <SlicerDicer-> winner, why do you want portage?
[12:20] <fblade> ok? so how can i get it still play sound in gaim and also in supertux and stuff like that also gl-177
[12:20] <winner> SlicerDicer-: felt like emerging stuff.
[12:20] <Badboy> does anyone know a good Linux Based Operating System that can create a good server???
[12:20] <hydrogen> Badboy: any linux distro can..
[12:20] <hydrogen> its the admininstrator that creates one, not that distro
[12:20] <ompaul> Badboy, ubuntu - just choose ubuntu on the install screen :)
[12:20] <SymGeosis> Badboy, gentoo is rather nice for a server.
[12:20] <winner> SlicerDicer-: i like knowing that the software im compiling is optimized for my system.
[12:20] <adamhill> hydrogen: dammit
[12:20] <SymGeosis> Badboy, though for server duty I prefer FreeBSD or OpenBSD.
[12:20] <winner> SlicerDicer-: but then i've come to realize, the difference isn't that big.
[12:20] <hydrogen> winner:  for the .035 second speedup you get
[12:20] <SlicerDicer-> winner, ricer alert :P I run gentoo on 2 of my systems
[12:21] <Badboy> Ubunto keeps giving me error 25
[12:21] <winner> SlicerDicer-: yeah. i dont wanna be a ricer hahaha. 2 page flags.. oh man.
[12:21] <ompaul> winner, I am sure you get all the extra clock cycles that you need
[12:21] <adamhill> how do they decide what kernel modules to include in a release (sk98lin is in Hoary)
[12:21] <SymGeosis> Badboy, slackware is nice and thin though takes some expertise.
[12:21] <SlicerDicer-> winner, my previous install of gentoo on this system the make.conf was like 4 pages of crap
[12:21] <Badboy> Is Gentoo Free?
[12:21] <fblade> ok? so how can i get it still play sound in gaim and also in supertux and stuff like that also gl-177
[12:21] <SlicerDicer-> Badboy, of course
[12:22] <Phinite> afternoon all.
[12:22] <Badboy> is it hard to set up a server on gentoo?
[12:22] <Coag> crimsun, ok once i isntall that
[12:22] <SlicerDicer-> Badboy, if your 100% noob yes
[12:22] <Phinite> how do I mount a second drive after booting to ubuntu live cd?
[12:22] <Coag> what woudl the location of the headers be
[12:22] <Badboy> lol
[12:22] <SymGeosis> Badboy, not if you know what you are doing, it just takes some time to compile stuff.
[12:22] <crimsun> Coag: see what I've written twice already
[12:22] <Badboy> ok
[12:22] <winner> SlicerDicer-: well ubuntu's pretty nice. windows2k was actually more responsive, but i was more prone to spyware and all, and win2k gets boring.
[12:22] <ompaul> Phinite, what is on that drive?
[12:22] <Badboy> can you give me da download link?
[12:23] <winner> Badboy: http://www.gentoo.org
[12:23] <Coag> oh thank i apologize
[12:23] <SymGeosis> Badboy, www.gentoo.org =)
[12:23] <SlicerDicer-> winner, ubuntu is unresponsive?
[12:23] <Badboy> found it
[12:23] <Badboy> lol
[12:23] <winner> SlicerDicer-: no i meant, not as.. fast. you know?
[12:23] <Badboy> which one should i use?
[12:23] <Badboy> universal
[12:23] <SlicerDicer-> winner, I dont see any slowdown compared to gentoo really
[12:23] <Badboy> minimum?
[12:23] <ompaul> Phinite, more to the point, was it formatted, if so for which operating system and with which type of filesystem?
[12:23] <Badboy> Package?
[12:23] <SymGeosis> Badboy, I'd go with universal.
[12:23] <robzon> hey
[12:23] <Badboy> ok
[12:23] <SlicerDicer-> winner, of course I run on a K8 CPU
[12:24] <Badboy> Its downloading
[12:24] <Phinite> debian files, ext3
[12:24] <Badboy> thanks
[12:24] <occy> crimsun occy: search for any linux-image* and linux-restricted-modules* packages and purge them
[12:24] <winner> SlicerDicer-: haha im running a P3 600MHz w/ 128MB. old laptop.
[12:24] <Phinite> it should be hdb
[12:24] <robzon> I think it's a known problem... that gnome's cd druid won't actually burn CDs, it will just keep asking for a blank CD even if there actually IS a blank CD in the drive... is there a fix for that?
[12:24] <occy> so do:  apt-get --purge linux-image`uname -r` linux-restricted-modules`uname -r`
[12:24] <winner> Badboy: what are you running right now?
[12:24] <occy> ?
[12:24] <SlicerDicer-> winner, 3500 + AMD with 2gb ram :P
[12:24] <ompaul> Phinite, mkdir /somename ; mount /dev/whichever /somename
[12:24] <occy> heh
[12:25] <ompaul> Phinite, sorry do that with a sudo :)
[12:25] <Phinite> ompaul: will try, thanks
[12:25] <winner> SlicerDicer-: nice.
[12:25] <Badboy> ubunto is my current os
[12:25] <ompaul> Phinite, enjoy
[12:25] <winner> SlicerDicer-: my main computer is still Windows.
[12:25] <winner> Badboy: stay with Ubuntu.
[12:25] <Badboy> but when it tries to load from HDD, it gives error 25
[12:25] <SlicerDicer-> winner, windows is banninated from my household :P
[12:25] <winner> Badboy: i see.
[12:25] <occy> crimsun, did you happen to see that?  apt-get --purge linux-image`uname -r` linux-restricted-modules`uname -r`
[12:25] <occy> or something?
[12:26] <winner> SlicerDicer-: haha. i need windows to live. the games i play don't run on linux.
[12:26] <dalamar> cedega!
[12:26] <SlicerDicer-> winner, are you sure about that?
[12:26] <SlicerDicer-> dalamar, cha ching!
[12:26] <crimsun> occy: dpkg -l linux-image\* linux-restricted-modules\* linux-headers\*|grep ^ii
[12:26] <cute_bettong> where are ubuntu's error logs located?
[12:26] <SlicerDicer-> /var/log more than likely
[12:27] <occy> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/361050
[12:27] <SlicerDicer-> but thats just a guess I dont know
[12:27] <winner> SlicerDicer-: yeah. well even if they do, i won't get used to linux. im fine with linux, but i don't think i can commit to make a complete switch.
[12:27] <Phinite> ompaul: it's saying that I must specify the filesystem type
[12:27] <SlicerDicer-> winner, ahh all in good time :)
[12:27] <adamhill> Phinite:  do a 'man mount'
[12:27] <jacaru> Hello all. My issue: When I save a file creating a folder from the "Save as" Gnome dialog, the file name field is cleared. This annoys me a lot. Anyone noticed?
[12:27] <winner> SlicerDicer-: all in good time :)
[12:27] <DVSoftware> winner: give it a few weeks
[12:28] <ompaul> Phinite, t -ext3 can help after the word mount
[12:28] <dalamar> windows is the evil. ill take a small performace cut in my games in cedega to not have to use windows
[12:28] <adamhill> Phinite: I think it is-t <type>
[12:28] <ompaul> Phinite, yeap forgot the '-'
[12:28] <russ> Can anyone help me with my microphone looping back on my sblive card?
[12:28] <winner> i'm not new to linux or anything. i've been experimenting with it for a while. i just don't feel that im ready to wake up to linux on the desktop. don't get me wrong, linux makes a great server, but as for desktop, windows just works for me.
[12:29] <crimsun> russ: paste the output from amixer onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:29] <ompaul> Phinite, or more to the point typed it in the wrong place :(
[12:29] <DVSoftware> winner: just try to avoid windows for a few weeks
[12:29] <hydrogen> linux is at the just works stage for most things
[12:29] <erUSUL> winner, well get out of here then X)
[12:29] <fblade> so how can i get sound to work in both games and on desktop
[12:29] <ompaul> winner, to  suggest that windows is ready for the desktop is a misnomer
[12:29] <dalamar> with a good gnome setup most people I know dont even know im running something other than windows when they see the desktop heh, and it will do everything windows can
[12:29] <SlicerDicer-> winner, I used windows since age 10 before that it was just dos, I switched to using linux in 2001 part time by 2003 I was no longer using windows :) all in good time
[12:29] <russ> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64506
[12:30] <crimsun> occy: keep in mind that purging those packages won't erase the directories into which you've installed additional files
[12:30] <haja> I am trying to reconfigure grub because I did a reinstall of Windows. I am using a live cd and trying to save menu.lst~ on in my Ubuntu /boot and it says its a read-only file system. Can someone give me a hand?
[12:30] <DVSoftware> hydrogen: that's most stupid thing that i've heard
[12:30] <occy> crimsun, I've only done the dpkg -l thingy for now.
[12:30] <occy> crimsun, didn't want to screw up anything.
[12:30] <crimsun> occy: you'd have to manually rm -rf those directories in /lib/modules/
[12:31] <DVSoftware> if i understood correctly
[12:31] <hydrogen> oh ffs, case in point... I'm trying to delete a file I had qeued (sp?) for printing now for 20 minutes
[12:31] <ompaul> !tell haja about recover
[12:31] <winner> hm. i don't know. windows isn't that bad. its fine. theres nothing wrong with linux; i'm on it right now, but i just don't think i can get to run linux as main on my desktop.
[12:31] <dalamar> alot of linux issues are user error imo, not knowing how things work ;)
[12:31] <occy> crimsun,  so... root@sometimes:/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/drivers/net # pwd
[12:31] <occy> /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/drivers/net
[12:31] <occy>   nuke that dir?
[12:31] <DVSoftware> hydrogen: and how you are trying to delete it?
[12:31] <russ> crimsun, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64506
[12:31] <hydrogen> DVSoftware: the friendly "cancel" button
[12:31] <SlicerDicer-> dalamar, all my neighbors know I run linux and are shocked with what I can do :) specially when they see my mythtv setups and my local servers that I run on my network it blows their gord
[12:32] <cyphase> how can i enable 1600X1200 in ubuntu?
[12:32] <ompaul> hydrogen, lpq follow that with lprm job_number
[12:32] <crimsun> occy: what dir did those extra kernel modules install into?
[12:32] <SlicerDicer-> cyphase, sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:32] <DVSoftware> winner: window's is worse than you think
[12:32] <cyphase> ah, thats it
[12:32] <hydrogen> no, I'm talking about my windows box
[12:32] <cyphase> thanx
[12:32] <ompaul> !tell cyphase about resolution
[12:32] <fblade> so how can i get sound to work in both games and on desktop
[12:32] <hydrogen> as a point
[12:32] <SlicerDicer-> cyphase, yep
[12:32] <occy> crimsun, I'm guessing that was the dir.  :/
[12:32] <winner> DVSoftware: what makes you say that?
[12:32] <winner> DVSoftware: just wondering.
[12:32] <SlicerDicer-> crimsun, longtime no see :)
[12:32] <occy> crimsun, no way to just purge and then reinstall forcing the original state of things?
[12:32] <SlicerDicer-> crimsun, well I been gone haha
[12:32] <hydrogen> windows really does very little right
[12:33] <DVSoftware> cos it's more gaming platform than operating system
[12:33] <occy> crimsun, I was using a default Ubuntu kernel setup just peachy.
[12:33] <haja> Thanks ompaul ,
[12:33] <occy> until I got the wild hair to put my wireless card into monitor mode.
[12:33] <occy> :(
[12:33] <Utopiate> so I want to install a win .exe without point to play? what is the command for cedega?
[12:33] <Utopiate> ergh!
[12:33] <winner> DVSoftware: yeah. true. then again, i do play a lot of games.
[12:33] <DVSoftware> khm
[12:33] <erUSUL> fblade, if the games can use a sound server like esd you can if not you're screwed
[12:33] <winner> DVSoftware: thats why i can't switch.
[12:33] <DVSoftware> cedega
[12:33] <DVSoftware> :D
[12:33] <crimsun> occy: change out of that dir, then sudo aptitude purge linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) linux-image-$(uname -r)
[12:33] <Utopiate> tried it...
[12:33] <DVSoftware> winner: cedega
[12:33] <dalamar> Utopiate, #cedega, is it a game?
[12:34] <Utopiate> hrmm...
[12:34] <winner> DVSoftware: well. cedega is an alternative, but... i don't know.
[12:34] <DVSoftware> winner: you want to try it?
[12:34] <crimsun> occy: then sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/$(uname -r)
[12:35] <fblade> no i cant use easd but i can use alts and stff like that but then it dont allow sound in he desktop
[12:35] <winner> DVSoftware: not on this computer. i can't run crap on this one.
[12:35] <winner> DVSoftware: do you happen to know how to turn on sub-pixel hinting in GNOME?
[12:35] <DVSoftware> winner: i'm using kd
[12:35] <DVSoftware> kde
[12:35] <occy> crimsun, yess, done
[12:35] <occy> errr
[12:35] <occy> crimsun, yessir
[12:36] <occy> crimsun, I've completed those commands.
[12:36] <winner> DVSoftware: oh. i see.
[12:36] <DVSoftware> but, in font configuration i think
[12:36] <occy> crimsun, was documenting so I can post a mini-howto on my site. ;)
[12:36] <fblade> no i cant use easd but i can use alts and stff like that but then it dont allow sound in he desktop
[12:36] <DVSoftware> you have advanced button there
[12:36] <crimsun> occy: then sudo apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-$(uname -r) linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r) linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:37] <hussam> anybody's got google talk working in gaim?
[12:37] <occy> crimsun, coolio  doing now
[12:37] <winner> nice. i just turned it on. i see the difference already.
[12:37] <erUSUL> fblade, alts???
[12:37] <occy> crimsun++
[12:37] <occy> heh
[12:37] <occy> crimsun, I guess I just need to reboot now?
[12:37] <crimsun> occy: yep
[12:37] <occy> all that went without a hitch.
[12:37] <occy> :)
[12:37] <occy> crimsun, okies bud.  be back in a bit.
[12:37] <jblack> I haven't been able to get sound working on my laptop. I suspect the problem is that the problem is that the soundcard requires a specific bitrate, but I'm not sure.
[12:37] <winner> brb
[12:37] <occy> crimsun, thanks tons.
[12:38] <crimsun> occy: yw
[12:38] <crimsun> jblack: cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:38] <Fonzi> can someone tell me how to give my user account access to my second harddrive?
[12:39] <jblack> Its a ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4. The system seems to be working just fine with the card (things like xmms works, the mixer seems to work). Sound wise, though ,its silent.
[12:39] <DVSoftware> Fonzi: mount it with -o uid=xxx,gid=xxx
[12:39] <ndazza> Fonzi: mount it
[12:39] <crimsun> Fonzi: your user already has access to it; did you mean to ask for a specific [NTFS/FAT]  partition?
[12:39] <DVSoftware> where xxx is uid/gid
[12:39] <crimsun> jblack: paste amixer output onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:40] <jblack> I.E. it works on the hardware/software level, but not on the aurel level. :) I think its a bitrate problem, because my other vaio (which has kde) only makes noise if a certain bitrate is set.
[12:40] <Ivarix> who is admining local dns zones? like ubuntu-lv.org ?
[12:40] <russ> crimsun: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64506
[12:40] <Ivarix> i need to change dns records.
[12:40] <jblack> crimson: Would you mind pastebin.com ? The laptop in question doesn't have an irc client yet.
[12:40] <zurn> hi peeps
[12:40] <zurn> quick question for the gurus?
[12:41] <DVSoftware> zurn: just ask
[12:41] <occy> crimsun++
[12:41] <zurn> Here's my problem, when I play quake3 everythings fine, but when I quit playing and return to the desktop, my desktop resolution does'nt switch back
[12:41] <occy> :)
[12:41] <zurn> I play quake3 in 1024x768 and my desktop is 1280x1024....
[12:41] <jblack> crimson: Assuming so, its at http://pastebin.com/361062
[12:41] <crimsun> russ: yes, I see
[12:42] <occy> crimsun, gonna go make a "tips and tricks" post on http://occy.net/ about it.
[12:42] <DVSoftware> zurn: it's a game problem
[12:42] <Fonzi> thanks for the info the -o uid=xxx worked
[12:42] <zurn> why is that?
[12:42] <bigme> zurn, have you tried oressing ctrl+alt++ (ctrl alt plus) and crtl+alt+- (ctrl alt minus)
[12:42] <crimsun> russ: lspci -v|grep -i audio
[12:43] <bigme> err,, ...pressing...
[12:43] <winner> my fonts look a lot nicer on screen with subpixel hinting and hinting turned on.
[12:43] <winner> very nice.
[12:43] <ksmurf> gday.   I'm trying to get my wife's wireless card going in breezy ... the card is found in lspci as a Eth Con. AR5212 .... A dwl g520.  It was pixked up in hoary but I can't get it up in breezy.  I have no network on that puter.  What do I do to get it going?  I tried the ndis part of the wiki.  where else should I go.  Iwconfig shows no devices
[12:43] <jblack> crimson: Ok Its up at http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl//2094
[12:43] <zurn> bigme when I return to the desktop?
[12:43] <Ivarix> ppl. can somebody help me with that dns problem?
[12:43] <bigme> zurn. yes
[12:43] <russ> crimsun, shows both of my sound cards, my onboard nforce4, which im not using, and my sblive
[12:43] <munir> How can I connect to internet using my modem...there is no dialer in ubuntu??
[12:44] <crimsun> russ: cat /proc/asound/modules
[12:44] <zurn> bigme no, what i do is change the resolution back to 1280x1024...
[12:44] <dabaRCo> munir dialup?
[12:44] <jblack> munir: You have two choices. pppconfig in the shell, or right click on the task bar and add the modem applet.
[12:44] <crimsun> jblack: please mute the 'Headphone' element
[12:44] <russ> 0 snd_intel8x0
[12:44] <russ> 1 snd_emu10k1
[12:44] <crimsun> russ: and you're using the emu10k1, correct?
[12:44] <russ> yes
[12:45] <munir> dabaRCo: yes..I didn't find any dialer like DialUpNetworking in WinXP
[12:45] <crimsun> russ: please paste the output from ''amixer -c 1'' onto paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:45] <bigme> zurn, the ctrl+alt+plus isn't realy a solution but it will save you the trouble of changing the resolution
[12:45] <munir> jblack: I tried pppconfig...but how to connect?
[12:45] <thrush_2> munir, i believe if you open the network settings in top right of the screen and go to modem properties you can dial from there.  not using gnome though
[12:45] <zurn> bigme ok thanks...guess that'll do til I find the prob
[12:46] <crimsun> jblack: if muting 'Headphone' doesn't resolve the issue, you may need to mute 'External Amplifier'
[12:46] <CookedGryphon> munir, pon (provider name)
[12:46] <crimsun> these broken AC'97 codecs are causing me to weep
[12:46] <winner> is there a way to tweak my subpixel hinting? i see a bit of colors in my font.
[12:46] <Gobbla> What should I choose, IPCop or Smoothwall?
[12:46] <russ> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/2095
[12:46] <CookedGryphon> winner system>preferences>font preferences
[12:46] <elroy> hello
[12:46] <jblack> crimson: Thought I tried that. You're brilliant!
[12:47] <munir> thrush_2: I Think I found only activate/deactivate option there.
[12:47] <jblack> Muting <External> did the trick
[12:47] <elroy> just installed ubuntu. for some reason mp3s won't play, eventhough i installed the plugin thingie
[12:47] <munir> CookedGryphon: I want to connect using my local ISP here in Pakistan.
[12:47] <thrush_2> munir, there is like an advanced or properties option not really sure
[12:47] <crimsun> elroy: are you using Music Player?
[12:47] <elroy> what's worse, xmms doesn't react to anything anymore.
[12:47] <DVSoftware> !tell elroy about mp3
[12:47] <crimsun> elroy: you need to change XMMS to use the esound output plugin
[12:47] <joakim_> can i get the boot to show something else than all the loading etc?
[12:47] <DVSoftware> elroy: change output plugin
[12:47] <bigme> elroy, you will have to install the codec's
[12:48] <elroy> the codec was installed
[12:48] <bigme> elroy, check www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:48] <haja> I don't really understand this manual grub configuration. Can someone explain this line to me? For example, /dev/hda1 is "hd0,0" to GRUB. Similarly, /dev/hdb3 is "hd1,2". ??
[12:48] <CookedGryphon> munir, use pppconfig first then pon (provider name that u specified in pppconfig) and poff to stop it
[12:48] <haja> My /boot is hdc5
[12:48] <SuperJam> hi !
[12:48] <elroy> how do i quit xmms now ? it's stuck and not doing anything
[12:48] <SuperJam> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[12:48] <ndazza> Gobbla: ideally neither, unless you're using it on something low power like an old laptop
[12:48] <crimsun> ''pkill xmms'' in a Terminal
[12:48] <munir> CookedGryphon:Ok I will try this. Thanks a lot.
[12:48] <SuperJam> got this error
[12:48] <SuperJam> what i've to do?
[12:49] <munir> Thanks all.
[12:49] <DVSoftware> haja: hd2,4
[12:49] <winner> crap
[12:49] <ndazza> Gobbla: you'd be better off getting a purpose-built embedded device and putting m0n0wall on it
[12:49] <winner> hey guys
[12:49] <winner> how do you undelete something
[12:49] <haja> Ok
[12:49] <winner> i just rm'd a file by accident
[12:49] <DVSoftware> elroy killall xmms
[12:49] <Agrajag> windex: build a time machine
[12:49] <CookedGryphon> munir, or u can use the gui one, put it on ure panel
[12:49] <Agrajag> er
[12:49] <Agrajag> winner: what I said
[12:49] <occy> crimsun, http://occy.net/node/142
[12:49] <occy> ;)
[12:49] <bigme> elroy, the soundserver is blocked, most likely by gnome, so just change xmms to use alsa and it might work
[12:49] <winner> noooooo
[12:49] <winner> are you serious
[12:49] <winner> damn
[12:50] <winner> i've been working on that paper for a long time
[12:50] <ndazza> winner: what filesystem? exy?
[12:50] <ndazza> *ext
[12:50] <winner> ext3
[12:50] <munir> CookedGryphon: GUI one? can you tell me the name of that GUI tool?
[12:50] <Agrajag> the data might still be there, if it wasn't written over
[12:50] <occy> crimsun, I might want to include Reboot to be complete.
[12:50] <ndazza> winner: there's an ext3 undeletion howto around somewhere
[12:50] <winner> it shouldn't be written over. how do i recover?!
[12:50] <Gobbla> ndazza: 133mhz..
[12:50] <elroy> ok i changed it to alsa now
[12:50] <Agrajag> your best bet is to immediately unmount that partition
[12:50] <bigme> elroy, does it work?
[12:50] <winner> ..
[12:50] <Agrajag> and find that howto ndazza mentioned
[12:50] <elroy> now it says couldn't open audio
[12:50] <winner> Agrajag: damn. its on this part.
[12:51] <winner> i can't umount /
[12:51] <winner> can i?
[12:51] <Agrajag> unmount it, and if it's your root or something you'd better go dig out a livecde
[12:51] <occy> there we go.
[12:51] <cusco> hi gnomebaker says that I have no permissions to cdrecord
[12:51] <Agrajag> livecd
[12:51] <ndazza> Gobbla: if it's a full PC you're talking about that will still draw 100W or more, over time u will pay money in power
[12:51] <winner> damn.
[12:51] <occy> crimsun, thank you again.  I do appreciate all your time and help.
[12:51] <Agrajag> or it will be overwritten, and probably soon
[12:51] <cusco> in users and groups my user belongs to the group cdrom
[12:51] <crimsun> russ: (1) unmute 'External Amplifier'; (2) unmute 'SB Live Analog/Digital Output Jack'; (3) use amixer -c 1 sset 'AC97' 0
[12:51] <CookedGryphon> munir, if you right click on the gnome panel and add to panel, then look for modem monitor, add that to ure panel, then if u right click on it, properties, set all the necessary options there, then right click and say activate and it should dial up if ure modem's working :D
[12:51] <ndazza> winner: there is a gui tool to do what you're talking about too i think it was called gui-undelete or something
[12:51] <cusco> whats missing?
[12:51] <ndazza> winner: it is based on the howto
[12:52] <bigme> elroy, then change it back and go into system->settings->sound and uncheck the box that says Enable sound server...
[12:52] <winner> damn im going to have to umount
[12:52] <munir> CookedGryphon: hmm Ok. Thats sound easier. Thanks
[12:52] <winner> how can i umount / without shutting down computer
[12:52] <ndazza> winner: got a live cd handy? :)
[12:52] <DVSoftware> winner
[12:52] <DVSoftware> no way
[12:52] <winner> damn.
[12:52] <robotgeek> winner: or remount read only
[12:53] <Gobbla> how does m0n0wall work then ndazza
[12:53] <winner> how do i do that robotgeek
[12:53] <elroy> default is esound output ?
[12:53] <russ> crimsun, still the same, unmuted i get feedback and muted i get nothing.
[12:53] <ndazza> Gobbla: similar to smooth/ipcop, but it's designed for embedded devices
[12:53] <crimsun> russ: AC97?
[12:53] <bigme> elroy, it might be,, not sure...
[12:53] <munir> if I mount any fat partition, Should I umount before shuttingdown my PC?
[12:53] <russ> crimsun, ?
[12:53] <Gobbla> not sure i want that..
[12:53] <crimsun> russ: did you change AC97, too?
[12:54] <winner> ahh damn that sucks
[12:54] <winner> i wrote like 2 paragraphs too
[12:54] <winner> i'll just rewrite it.
[12:54] <russ> yes
[12:54] <winner> i didnt get too far.
[12:54] <robotgeek> winner: :)
[12:54] <ndazza> winner: 2 paragraphs? hehe not a 20 page document or anything then! :)
[12:54] <winner> yeah im just lazy hahaha
[12:54] <russ> crimsun, left and right playback and capture are at 0 on ac97
[12:54] <winner> if it was 20 page, i'd kill myself.
[12:54] <majikstreet> hi
[12:54] <DVSoftware> [00:50:05]  [winner]  i've been working on that paper for a long time
[12:55] <DVSoftware> hmmm
[12:55] <robzon> is the preview of breezy fairly stable?
[12:55] <winner> i have :(
[12:55] <DVSoftware> do you type with two fingers?
[12:55] <winner> no i think slow :(
[12:55] <winner> took me a while to gather the thoughts and write it down.
[12:55] <elroy> ok now i see it playing but i don't hear it
[12:55] <winner> actually i just tend to get sidetracked a lot
[12:55] <ndazza> winner: well the thoughts are gathered now :)
[12:55] <iloveyourmom> i need desprate help
[12:55] <SlicerDicer-> is anybody familar with how to speed up nvidia gfx in ubuntu? I am getting 90fps in a game vs 283fps in gentoo
[12:55] <winner> thanks for all the help guys haha
[12:55] <ndazza> Gobbla: http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Reviews-161-ProdID-MONOWALL.php
[12:56] <bigme> elroy, is the volume on?
[12:56] <alie> SlicerDicer-, have u installed nvidia drivers?
[12:56] <winner> at least i learned an important lesson: watch what you're rm'ing.
[12:56] <SlicerDicer-> alie, of course
[12:56] <bigme> elroy, open the volume controll and check
[12:56] <ksmurf> any help for a DWL-g520 (ar5212) on breezy?
[12:56] <alie> and checked that glx is loading?
[12:56] <ndazza> Gobbla: if you want to use the old PC, go smoothwall, it looks schmicker and has better help
[12:57] <_avatar> Is there any way to upgrade Hoary to Breezy? Will the install CD do this for me?
[12:57] <iloveyourmom>  ___________________
[12:57] <iloveyourmom> < i love you mom!!! >
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[12:57] <crimsun> iloveyourmom: go away
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[12:57] <SlicerDicer-> alie, umm I would not be able to run 3d ohterwise
[12:57] <iloveyourmom>   /|                 | |
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[12:57] <alie> it could be running under mesa?
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[12:57] <DVSoftware> iloveyourmom: bye
[12:57] <DVSoftware> Laughing out loud
[12:57] <ksmurf> lol
[12:57] <bigme> haha
[12:58] <alie> thank you whoever
[12:58] <ndazza> _avatar: you're talking about a downgrade there :)
[12:58] <MrBear> back
[12:58] <Gobbla> ndazza, aight
[12:58] <ndazza> he left, wasn't kicked
[12:58] <alie> ah
[12:58] <russ> * crimsun sets ban on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[12:58] <crimsun> he's muzzled if he comes back.
[12:58] <alie> anyway cool
[12:58] <russ> doesn't matter
[12:58] <elroy> volume control doesn't seem to make a difference
[12:58] <_avatar> ndazza, Hoary to Breezy is a downgrade? I thought Hoary was 5.04 and Breezy was 5.10...
[12:58] <ksmurf> any help for a DWL-g520 (ar5212) on breezy? pls?
[12:58] <ndazza> _avatar: oh so it is! i misread :D silly me
[12:58] <bigme> elroy, are the chanels on mute?
[12:58] <elroy> nope
[12:59] <_avatar> ndazza, ;)
[12:59] <_avatar> ndazza, so, will the Install CD do an upgrade or must I do a fresh install?
[12:59] <ndazza> _avatar: just edit /etc/apt/sources.conf and change all references from 'hoary' to 'breezy'
[12:59] <bigme> elroy, does the sound work otherwise?
[12:59] <winner> my Breezy cd got messed up or something, because setup never worked. i ended up setting up Hoary instead.
[12:59] <_avatar> ndazza, cool... thats relatively safe?
[12:59] <ndazza> _avatar: not sure, i haven't done it yet ;)
[12:59] <Lous> _avatar, i did it
[12:59] <elroy> how can i check that ?
[12:59] <MrBear> I just installed breezy at least I have volume control now
[01:00] <ndazza> _avatar: a guy i know did it, the only problem was his nvidia drivers screwed up
[01:00] <alie> i'd be weary of soing a dist-upgrade
[01:00] <DVSoftware> _avatar:  i'm running breezy
[01:00] <DVSoftware> it's fine here
[01:00] <_avatar> DVSoftware, and you just used ap?
[01:00] <Lous> _avatar, Im running breezy too, not a problem
[01:00] <_avatar> apt.
[01:00] <MrBear> same here
[01:00] <DVSoftware> yep
[01:00] <_avatar> great, thanks :)
[01:00] <MrBear> as long you do a fresh install
[01:00] <_avatar> oh.
[01:00] <bigme> elroy, well, do you hear anything when you login?
[01:00] <DVSoftware> it apt-get dist-upgraded something today
[01:00] <_avatar> I was going to upgrade from Hoary to Breezy, MrBear
[01:00] <ndazza> alie: i'd be doing a dist-upgrade if going to breezy. otherwise dependencies will prevent a full upgrade and u will have a hybrid
[01:00] <DVSoftware> i've noticed new gnome
[01:00] <elroy> i haven't heard anything yet
[01:00] <Lous> well, i changed breezy in the source list
[01:00] <alie> agreed
[01:00] <Lous> I was using hoary
[01:01] <SlicerDicer-> what I dont get is why when I run glxgears it does not give me a fps output at all either the FPS on everything is super low I am confused....
[01:01] <Lous> and did not found a problem
[01:01] <MrBear> I burned breezt
[01:01] <bigme> elroy, then the installation hasn't detected your soundcard
[01:01] <elroy> that sucks.
[01:01] <_avatar> Lous, great, thanks
[01:01] <DVSoftware> SlicerDicer-: breezy?
[01:01] <SlicerDicer-> DVSoftware, yeah
[01:01] <DVSoftware> here is the same issue
[01:01] <CookedGryphon> When u upgrade to breezy do u keep all ure settings and extra packages u installed?
[01:01] <DVSoftware> but in game it works fine
[01:01] <bigme> elroy, open a terminal and type: lsmod | grep snd
[01:01] <winner> is it possible to upgrade to breezy without a whole new cd?
[01:01] <DVSoftware> CookedGryphon: yea
[01:01] <SlicerDicer-> DVSoftware, ohh yeh my games work fine but the FPS is way low
[01:01] <drnick_> run glxinfo, i dont thinkn glx gars is in brezy yet, i could be wrong
[01:01] <MrBear> yes but not recommend
[01:01] <bigme> elroy, does it produce any output
[01:01] <DVSoftware> winner: yeah
[01:02] <elroy> yep. a whole bunch of lines
[01:02] <winner> DVSoftware: how do you do it :)
[01:02] <CookedGryphon> DVSoftware, cool, i'll do it when i get to uni and can use the fast internet, it would take a while at 2kb/s
[01:02] <robotgeek> glxinfo
[01:02] <nir_> hello
[01:02] <MrBear> cause if you upgrade you get mixed files with hoary
[01:02] <DVSoftware> replace hoary with breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:02] <MrBear> sean783 are you around?
[01:02] <DVSoftware> and do apt-get update
[01:02] <SlicerDicer-> DVSoftware, to hell with it I will just nuke out the nvidia drivers and do it the old way :P
[01:02] <nir_> i would like to install other window managers then gnome/kde , is it possible to install fluxbox ?
[01:02] <DVSoftware> and apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:02] <bigme> elroy, then I have no idea,, sorry
[01:03] <winner> i see.
[01:03] <DVSoftware> nir_: yeah
[01:03] <DVSoftware> why not
[01:03] <winner> i'll upgrade to breezy once it gets final.
[01:03] <thrush_2> winner, any time i upgrade like that i just install on a new partition. too many bad experiences
[01:03] <winner> thrush_2: good idea.
[01:03] <elroy> bah. this is like the 4th linux distriburion i've tried and again it gives me trouble :(
[01:03] <alie> nods
[01:03] <winner> thrush_2: do you then delete the old one and move the stuff in?
[01:03] <drnick_> elroy you having trouble with soundcard mainly?
[01:03] <aberrant> has breezy been released?
[01:04] <MrBear> no just preview
[01:04] <CookedGryphon> aberrant, not yet
[01:04] <elroy> nope
[01:04] <DVSoftware> aberrant: not yet
[01:04] <nir_> DVSoftware: can i d/l those packages with apt ?
[01:04] <DVSoftware> october
[01:04] <Lous> 13
[01:04] <Lous> th
[01:04] <elroy> before ubuntu it was dependency issues
[01:04] <thrush_2> winner, no I usuall keep the old one for a while until im sure I just mount it and copy over home dir and stuff
[01:04] <nir_> coz i cant find them within apt-cache
[01:04] <DVSoftware> nir_: probably
[01:04] <DVSoftware> try
[01:04] <CookedGryphon> why can't i dl wine? it keeps coming up bad header line
[01:04] <DVSoftware> nir_: repos?
[01:04] <dabaRCo> CookedGryphon: you have us. in front of your sources.list lines?
[01:04] <nir_> whats repos ?
[01:05] <aberrant> i have two identical harddrives, I would clone my system and then upgrade and test it for a week
[01:05] <dabaRCo> or as part of the URLs?
[01:05] <DVSoftware> !tell nir_ about repositories
[01:05] <aberrant> clone your sys before upgrading ..hds are cheap
[01:05] <CookedGryphon> dabaRCo, NOPE
[01:05] <nir_> thanks :)
[01:05] <thrush_2> winner, ive got like 6 OSs on my computer right now.  Maybe its time to delete a few =)
[01:06] <DVSoftware> nir_: np
[01:06] <nir_> :)
[01:06] <dabaRCo> CookedGryphon: post your sources somewhere.
[01:06] <nir_> compared to gentoo/slack ubuntu is really slow... why ?
[01:06] <CookedGryphon> i ahve the sources.list off pastebin
[01:06] <CookedGryphon> i'll post it in flood
[01:06] <DVSoftware> nir_: consider that you compile every package in gentoo lol
[01:07] <DVSoftware> and optimize for your cpu
[01:07] <aberrant> when I configure my DNS by system->Admin->networking..the DNS settings don't persist across reboots...anybody know why?  my static ip and other settings seem to stick
[01:07] <alie> i don't seem to have speed issues here and i'm running as guest inside a vmware session
[01:07] <drnick_> check and make sure dma is enable on your hd aswell
[01:08] <drnick_> not sure how much that will speed it up but if you have an older sstem it may be disbled
[01:08] <DVSoftware> alie: ???
[01:08] <elroy> any way i can make ubuntu detect my soundcard again ?
[01:09] <hydrogen> Is it possible to get bootsplash to work?
[01:09] <alie> navnos is a gentoo based live cd that u can install to HD and have base gentoo and X installed already
[01:09] <drnick_> elroy you see this link? http://linux.iuplog.com/default.asp?item=94639
[01:10] <aberrant> anybody know how to make DNS nameserver setting persist across reboots?  I have to manually reconfigure it each time
[01:10] <DVSoftware> w00t
[01:10] <alie> i'm a distro whore... what can i say?
[01:11] <CookedGryphon> i used redhat 7, dipped my lil toe in mandrake 8, then settled on ubuntu
[01:11] <DVSoftware> alie: i don't count tryouts
[01:12] <alie> been using linux since 1995 stopped dual booting since 1998
[01:12] <MrBear> finally
[01:12] <MrBear> got my sound to work
[01:12] <drnick_> aberrant go to system->administration->networking if you in gnome
[01:12] <alie> ok not including try-outs... 100
[01:12] <elroy> i'll check it
[01:13] <alie> at least
[01:13] <aberrant> drnick_, thanks...I did that..I set my dns nameservers..but they don't persist across reboots..any idea why?
[01:13] <DVSoftware> alie: you're distro whore... for sure
[01:13] <alie> and i'm still not a guru lol
[01:13] <DVSoftware> alie: n00b?
[01:13] <DVSoftware> :D
[01:13] <alie> intermediate
[01:14] <alie> i think...
[01:14] <drnick_> nope , open up /etc/resolv.conf
[01:14] <convidado> xine is package opensource ?
[01:14] <drnick_> see if its listed their
[01:15] <aberrant> drnick_, /etc/resolv.conf is configured properly right now, but if I reboot, it'll be blank.
[01:15] <alie> distro's ive used in last 12 months are vector, slack, ubuntu, mandrake/mandriva, pclinuxos, elive, knoppix, debian, SUSE,
[01:15] <ne1> hi there, tried dist-upgrade to breezy and get the following error, any ideas?
[01:15] <aberrant> why does the /etc/resolv.conf get cleared?
[01:15] <drnick_> hmm weird, sorry im at a loss then, you on breezy?
[01:15] <aberrant> drnick_, neg...hoary
[01:15] <ne1> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glibc/libc6-i686_2.3.5-1ubuntu11_i386.deb  Bad header line [IP: <IP_ADDRESS> 80]
[01:15] <DVSoftware> alie: do you change distros monthly or what?
[01:16] <aberrant> no worries...thanks anyway...guess I'll have to add a script to configure it or figure out the resolv.conf init scripts
[01:16] <DVSoftware> can someone open winehq.com
[01:16] <DVSoftware> connection timeout here
[01:16] <alie> DVSoftware,  i have a standard distro i use... pclinuxos.. and another partition to play with others that pass the vmware test
[01:16] <DVSoftware> maybe it's my isp shit
[01:17] <roham_> I need help with Wireless connections, I cant logon to the network... Isnt there any wireless manager? like wlassistant... but it only works on kde... ?? anyone please
[01:17] <DVSoftware> ewww pclinuxos
[01:17] <DVSoftware> mandriva
[01:17] <DVSoftware> same shit
[01:17] <alie> i just enjoy looking at different ways to do the same thing
[01:18] <alie> pclinuxos is a mandriva fork... it is a distro in it's own right... the same as ubuntu isn't debian
[01:18] <aberrant> roham_, wuts the problem?
[01:18] <DVSoftware> alie: isn't debian better than mandriva?
[01:18] <aberrant> roham_, iwconfig
[01:18] <alie> u got no argument there :D
[01:19] <CookedGryphon> DVSoftware, i get a timeout too
[01:19] <drnick_> aberrant do you have a package called "esolvconf " installed, reason i ask is i just saw this link http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/3c9111a40e4d3dd3/31f617cf252c56eb?lnk=st&q=%2Fetc%2Fresolv.conf+clear+reboot&rnum=1&hl=en#31f617cf252c56eb
[01:19] <elroy> that site still doesn't fix my problem :(
[01:19] <gwxnei001> .nullus.net
[01:19] <cusco> roham_: iwlist scan "device-name"
[01:19] <drnick_> oops that should read "resolvconf"
[01:20] <cusco> eg. eth3 or wlan0
[01:20] <CookedGryphon> what cool native linux games can i install?
[01:20] <DVSoftware> cusco: it's iwlist device scan
[01:20] <roham_> aberrant... when i try to start up the card ,,, it wont log in... j
[01:20] <aberrant> drnick_, neg...just resolvconf
[01:20] <alie> but pclinuxos uses mandriva tools that have been tweaked by texstar and co... result is stable and very configurable
[01:20] <cusco> DVSoftware: lol yes
[01:21] <aberrant> roham_, are you connecting to a wireless router?  802.11b/g?
[01:21] <DVSoftware> alie: it's still crap
[01:21] <Fubarred> when I VNC into my box, the display is quite small is there a way to increase it?
[01:21] <ne1> any ideas?
[01:21] <alie> why crap?
[01:21] <aberrant> Fubarred, man vncserver
[01:21] <aberrant> Fubarred, you can spec geometry
[01:21] <momo> just loaded latest breezy on my dell 700m
[01:21] <DVSoftware> alie: well, i consider mandriva as beginner's os
[01:22] <momo> anyone know why rcconf doesnt work?
[01:22] <abuntic> hey can someone help me I am having an apt problem.
[01:22] <alie> this is true,,, many percive this
[01:22] <CookedGryphon> DVSoftware, more than ubuntu?
[01:22] <CookedGryphon> i thought ubuntu was easier 4 beginners than mandriva
[01:22] <DVSoftware> CookedGryphon: yes
[01:22] <elroy> hey i got sound..
[01:22] <DVSoftware> its easier than ubuntu
[01:22] <elroy> i had to change the device used in xmms
[01:22] <MrBear> mom how is it going?
[01:22] <alie> and pclinux os does everything for u as well, java, flash, all codecs installed for ya
[01:22] <DVSoftware> it has shitload of config dialogs
[01:22] <MrBear> I am getting better support than hoary
[01:22] <bigme> elroy, whoohooo!
[01:22] <elroy> for some reason it didn't have the right one selected.
[01:23] <alie> and a 7 click install
[01:23] <drnick_> hehe its always the simple think sometimes over looked glad you got it
[01:23] <roham_> aberrant: yes... but I think I found it... but why isnt there any better graphic manager?
[01:23] <MrBear> got sound working and even my cam
[01:23] <momo> breezy solved all my issues with my wireless iwp2200
[01:23] <roham_> aberrant: eth0      IEEE 802.11-DS  ESSID:"freedom fries"
[01:23] <alie> think memphis as a debian deriv
[01:23] <elroy> cool. now i just gotta get this audioscrobbler plugin.. :)
[01:23] <roham_> aberrant: how can I search?
[01:23] <DVSoftware> alie: i'll make my own distro :D
[01:23] <aberrant> roham_, there is no gui config installed with ubuntu by default ..I think there are probably guis out ther
[01:24] <DVSoftware> i'll follow linuxfromscratch guide
[01:24] <DVSoftware> :D
[01:24] <aberrant> roham_,  but you can do it on the command line
[01:24] <roham_> aberrant: dosnt work
[01:24] <alie> i got a lfs in vmware took me 4 days :D
[01:24] <aberrant> roham_,  you need the WEP key from your router
[01:24] <aberrant> roham_, man iwconfig
[01:24] <roham_> aberrant: eth0      Failed to read scan data : Operation not supported
[01:24] <roham_> aberrant I have it
[01:25] <winner> it's pretty nice to have a transparent terminal window.
[01:25] <DVSoftware> alie: last time i just finished compling kde
[01:25] <DVSoftware> and i was too bored to continue
[01:25] <alie> LOL
[01:25] <alie> tis true... in gentoo it took 7 hours for kde
[01:25] <DVSoftware> alie: but it was extremely fast
[01:25] <alie> on my 2600XP
[01:25] <abuntic> winner: is it a true transparency?
[01:26] <aberrant> roham_, when you type iwconfig, what do you get?
[01:26] <winner> abuntic: no :(
[01:26] <HrdwrBoB> DVSoftware: no, not really
[01:26] <winner> abuntic: do you know of a true transprent term?
[01:26] <cusco> hi.. gnomebaker says that has no permission to use cdrecord...
[01:26] <HrdwrBoB> DVSoftware: it would have been the same speed
[01:26] <abuntic> winner: oh ya I have been trying to get a true one
[01:26] <DVSoftware> HrdwrBoB: like what?
[01:26] <abuntic> winner: no luck
[01:26] <DVSoftware> like gentoo?
[01:26] <Barock> I just installed Breezy Badger and I'm having some trouble with my use mouse, the mouse freezes from time to time, any ideas?
[01:26] <elroy> laterx
[01:27] <HrdwrBoB> compiling your own software doesn't gain you speed
[01:27] <abuntic> winner: apparently x org has the possibility but no info on it enywhere
[01:27] <alie> true u do reep the rewards...
[01:27] <HrdwrBoB> it wastes your time
[01:27] <winner> abuntic: damn :(
[01:27] <drnick_> cusco are you running it as root, if not edit your sure permissions
[01:27] <alie> but i found that vector linux was very nearly as fast
[01:27] <DVSoftware> HrdwrBoB: wrong
[01:27] <abuntic> winner: I dont mean to bother you but do you know anything about apt?
[01:27] <winner> abuntic: apt-get?
[01:27] <roham_> aberrant alot of data on eth0
[01:28] <abuntic> winner: ya
[01:28] <alie> apt-get install <package>
[01:28] <DVSoftware> HrdwrBoB: you compile it for your own cpu
[01:28] <HrdwrBoB> DVSoftware: I know EXACTLY how it works.
[01:28] <winner> abuntic: sudo apt-get install (package)
[01:28] <abuntic> winner: It gives me an error
[01:28] <cusco> drnick_: how?
[01:28] <winner> abuntic: what error do you get?
[01:28] <roham_> aberrant do u know any good manager?
[01:28] <DVSoftware> HrdwrBoB: optimization flags?
[01:28] <alie> sorry forgot sudo bit
[01:28] <aberrant> roham_, wut kind of wireless card do you have? you might need to load a kernel module
[01:28] <abuntic> I installed debian packages and it is confused I think
[01:28] <HrdwrBoB> DVSoftware: you're lucky to get 5%
[01:28] <HrdwrBoB> at best
[01:29] <drnick_> oops i meant user, go to system->administaration->users and groups
[01:29] <DVSoftware> HrdwrBoB: and if you compile entire system with that?
[01:29] <HrdwrBoB> DVSoftware: then you've wasted literally days
[01:29] <winner> abuntic: hm. i really have no idea. sorry.
[01:29] <HrdwrBoB> not to mention the amount of power you've wasted
[01:29] <subterrific> compiler optimizations doesn't always help, in many cases they slow things down
[01:30] <DVSoftware> well
[01:30] <alie> depends on system and what flags u use
[01:30] <winner> do you think its wise to compile kernel with optimizations?
[01:30] <DVSoftware> i've founded that blfs
[01:30] <DVSoftware> was extremely fast
[01:30] <abuntic> winnerL: the error is: "the following packages have unmet dependencies"
[01:30] <alie> doing thing -03 is not good all the time
[01:30] <roham_> aberrant: internt wireless on laptop (hp)
[01:30] <roham_> internal
[01:30] <casius> .cl
[01:30] <winner> abuntic: hm..... what are you trying to install?
[01:30] <michelinux> hi
[01:30] <roham_> aberrant : need 2 go to bed
[01:30] <test34> is there a dynamic dns program that is available via apt-get ? like no-ip ?
[01:31] <roham_> aberrant: thx anyway... will be back tomorrow :D
[01:31] <abuntic> winner: dvdrip and java
[01:31] <tylee> hello
[01:31] <aberrant> roham_, ok...good luck
[01:31] <nalioth> abuntic: dont get java from the repos
[01:31] <nalioth> !tell abuntic about java
[01:31] <tylee> asl ever1
[01:31] <michelinux> In Breezy, how I can get my US keyboard to work as International US (like the old us_intl)?
[01:32] <winner> abuntic: i don't know, maybe this would help: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[01:32] <cusco> michelinux: dpkg-reconfigure locales ?
[01:32] <nalioth> tylee: i hope you're joking
[01:32] <cusco> michelinux: setxkbmap
[01:32] <abuntic> winner: ok thanks
[01:33] <michelinux> cusco: I now, but I was used to load the us_intl symbols... but they are "removed" in breezy
[01:33] <cusco> that can't be
[01:33] <subterrific> test34: search in synaptic 'Name and Description' for dynamic dns
[01:33] <cusco> make sure you set your propper kb layout
[01:34] <winner> abuntic: np :)
[01:34] <michelinux> I just checked it... also in the xorg CVS repository the "us_intl" is marked as REMOVED
[01:34] <subterrific> test34: i see ipcheck and ez-ipupdate both in repos
[01:35] <test34> thanks subterrific
[01:35] <michelinux> So I think there is another way to get the international kbd... but I don't know that
[01:35] <alie> ddclient for dynamic dns
[01:35] <subterrific> test34: and one called no-ip
[01:35] <subterrific> test34: you're welcome
[01:35] <alie> Update dynamic IP address at DynDNS.org
[01:36] <test34> subterrific, I don't see them, maybe because I use breezy
[01:36] <subterrific> i'm using breezy also
[01:36] <subterrific> maybe you need to enable the universe repos
[01:36] <MrBear> me too
[01:36] <MrBear> I love it
[01:37] <test34> subterrific, I guess I do.. I never did
[01:37] <alie> yep no-ip also :d
[01:37] <IRCMonkey_> i have a computer with hoary installed. How do i upgrade to breezy?
[01:37] <nir_> hi, iv just install fluxbox, but i guess i need to install the basic X, whats the name of the package ?
[01:37] <MrBear> recommend a clean install
[01:37] <alie> xorg
[01:37] <nexus-> i can't find the iso images for breezy live on ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/ubuntu/ for the life of me
[01:37] <dalamar> www.distrowatch.com
[01:38] <ivangrozny> my computer is horribly laggy graphics wise, i dont think its using the correct nvidia drivers
[01:38] <XoBelLoX> hey peoples
[01:38] <occy> wow, iloveyourmom had some cool graphics.
[01:38] <occy> heh
[01:38] <ivangrozny> even trying to scroll a web page thers lag
[01:38] <ivangrozny> theres*
[01:38] <rendi> hi guy's how to make autorun when my server is restart
[01:38] <nir_> what i need to install to get startx ? :)
[01:38] <alie> ivangrozny,  check /etc/xorg.conf and see if nvidia in there not nv
[01:38] <XoBelLoX> anyone 14-16 here?
[01:38] <IRCMonkey_> so, should i go for a clean install?
[01:39] <occy> * crimsun sets ban on<EMAIL_ADDRESS>hehe
[01:39] <occy> I see crimsun laid the smack down
[01:39] <occy> ;)
[01:39] <MrBear> I am 24
[01:39] <alie> rendi auto run what?
[01:39] <rendi> sutorun alie
[01:39] <occy> silly goons doing stuff like that
[01:39] <occy> *sigh*
[01:39] <rendi> example i have installed privoxy on my server
[01:39] <occy> I
[01:39] <ivangrozny> alie, i tried putting nvidia in there before but then it just dint boot to the login screen, it said there was a probelm and booted to the text version
[01:39] <occy> I've gotten a lot of msg spam today
[01:39] <rendi> and if my server is restart i wanna privoxy started too
[01:39] <XoBelLoX> r  any of u bored cuase i am any hot guys talk to me or p2p me!!!!!~
[01:40] <test34> subterrific, cool I see it now
[01:40] <rendi> anyone know ?
[01:40] <alie> ok
[01:40] <alie> look in /etc/init.d and /etc/rc2.d
[01:40] <rendi> and ?
[01:40] <rendi> my privosy installed ono /etc/privoxy
[01:41] <XoBelLoX> hello someone talk to me plezzz!!!!!!!!!!!
[01:41] <alie> in init.d put a script to start proxy... script couldbe as some simple like #! /bin/sh
[01:41] <HrdwrBoB> !ops
[01:41] <ubotu> ops is, like, Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, fooishbar, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmich, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, and Nalioth
[01:41] <alie> Name of proxyserver &
[01:41] <XoBelLoX> is this all u guys talk about is cumputers
[01:41] <alie> save it and make it execuctable
[01:41] <HrdwrBoB> XoBelLoX: correct.
[01:42] <cafuego> XoBelLoX: Check the channel topic.
[01:42] <HrdwrBoB> XoBelLoX: please go elsewhere
[01:42] <chase> well hello there
[01:42] <MrBear> hi chase
[01:42] <XoBelLoX> hello
[01:42] <HrdwrBoB> XoBelLoX: this channel, indeed this *network* is not for you
[01:42] <cafuego> Try UnderNet maybe?
[01:42] <chase> anyone able to tell us how to make an ISO image out of a CD?
[01:42] <alie> then in /etc/rc2.d make a symlink to the script
[01:42] <rendi> and now i'm dunno to make script like that
[01:42] <chase> i ken its a simple question but still i dont know
[01:42] <cafuego> I hear that's full of semi-retarded children.
[01:42] <HrdwrBoB> chase: dd if=/dev/cdrom of=file.iso
[01:43] <chase> :-
[01:43] <Piggybank> chase, it's very easy,but I forgot.
[01:43] <alie> ok what proxy server?
[01:43] <fartbarker> i burn iso on imac
[01:43] <chase> :-) thanks
[01:43] <rendi> privoxy
[01:43] <HrdwrBoB> chase: it may report an error, but that means it's reached the end of the disc
[01:43] <ivangrozny> any suggestions as to why my computer is so graphic laggy, i have checked the xorg.conf file and it says "nv" instead of "nvidia"
[01:43] <alie> ok type in a console "sudo which privoxy"
[01:43] <Piggybank> fartbarker, does it work?
[01:44] <fartbarker> like a charm
[01:44] <alie> should give u a path
[01:44] <alie> open gedit
[01:44] <alie> and type #! /bin/sh
[01:44] <fartbarker> every iso i burn with linux no good
[01:45] <rendi> ok and then my privoxy sit on /etc/privoxy
[01:45] <alie> then type that path like "/usr/sbin/privoxy &
[01:45] <MrBear> be back later people
[01:46] <rendi> usually i started /etc/init.d/privoxy start
[01:46] <alie> then save it as priv or similar
[01:46] <rendi> ok
[01:46] <alie> u already have it in init.d?
[01:46] <rendi> yes
[01:46] <alie> ok good... forget what i just said
[01:47] <rendi> here
[01:47] <alie> ok look in /etc/rc2.d
[01:47] <rendi> # /etc/init.d/privoxy start
[01:47] <rendi> Starting privoxy:                                          [  OK  ]
[01:47] <alie> ok
[01:47] <rendi> ok then
[01:47] <alie> do a ls and u will see S20Program etc etc where program is the one starting at init 2
[01:47] <beniamino> !tell beniamino about java
[01:48] <alie> u want the proxy to start after ifup has done it;s buniness
[01:48] <Lichte> how do I get win32codecs in breezy ??
[01:48] <rendi> u mean like this S84privoxy -> ../init.d/privoxy
[01:48] <linlin> how do i make something start on boot in ubuntu
[01:49] <alie> ln -s S84privoxy /etc/init.d/privoxy
[01:49] <cafuego> linlin: Either set up init scripts by hand, ot add stuff to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[01:50] <alie> should start at boot
[01:50] <benji> Is there anyway I can emulate multiple channels on my soundcard?
[01:50] <rendi> wait
[01:50] <rendi> ln: `/etc/init.d/privoxy': File exists
[01:50] <benji> so i can run multiple programs that use sound
[01:50] <froggy25> does anyone here use fceu
[01:50] <HrdwrBoB> benji: it does that by default
[01:50] <HrdwrBoB> using esd
[01:50] <froggy25> to play nes roms
[01:50] <alie> opps my fault
[01:51] <rendi> it mean i have del `/etc/init.d/privoxy' first ?
[01:51] <benji> ahh okay
[01:51] <benji> i'll install esd
[01:51] <benji> thanks
[01:51] <HrdwrBoB> benji: dmix is arguably better
[01:51] <alie> ln -s /etc/init.d/privoxy /etc/rc2.d/S84privoxy
[01:51] <benji> hmm
[01:51] <benji> what do you mean by arguably better?
[01:51] <alie> my bad sorry
[01:52] <rendi> same
[01:52] <rendi> ln: `/etc/rc2.d/S84privoxy': File exists
[01:52] <ompaul> how do I figure out if the disk I have burnt will boot?
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> ompaul: reboot
[01:52] <alie> then it should be running at boot time... unless the /etc/init.d is the binary
[01:52] <darknature> Hmm can anyone tell me how I can put my Trash bin on my desktop
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> with it in the drive
[01:52] <darknature> instead of having it in a panel
[01:52] <HrdwrBoB> :)
[01:53] <alie> not the script
[01:53] <IRCMonkey_> does anyone know if here is a way of making ubuntu look like a mac OS X
[01:53] <HrdwrBoB> darknature: applications->system tools, configuration editor
[01:53] <darknature> k
[01:53] <BlueEagle> ircmonkey_: ofcourse there is a way.
[01:53] <alie> have a look in rc3.d and rc5.d to make sure the is no K84privoxy
[01:54] <darknature> ok where at in configuration editor?
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> darknature: then, apps, nautilus, desktop
[01:54] <ompaul> HrdwrBoB, :) it is almost 1am forgive me - I borked my box trying to play with breezy, fixed the second one in the house - no network card :) interesting times ahead :) here grace os live cd
[01:54] <darknature> ok thanks
[01:54] <HrdwrBoB> trash_icon_visible
[01:54] <sean783> um, I have a question
[01:54] <IRCMonkey_> BlueEagle: is there an easy way?
[01:55] <sean783> are there any special steps I need to go through (other than alien -i) on the ATI .rpm for the latest display drivers?
[01:55] <rendi> ur mean i must del S84privoxy in rc3.d and rc5.d ?
[01:55] <sean783> will it hose Ubuntu if i install that
[01:55] <BlueEagle> ircmonkey_: That really depends on what you define as "easy". It does involve some installation of apps and some configuration file editing accompanied by a LOT of manual reading.
[01:55] <alie> no
[01:55] <cusco> not really
[01:55] <alie> those can stay
[01:55] <IRCMonkey_> BlueEagle: what apps?
[01:56] <benji> how can I figure out what program has /dev/dsp locked?
[01:56] <benji> i forget :)
[01:56] <cusco> IRCMonkey_: I suggest you take alook at http://www.gnome-look.org/
[01:56] <Piggybank> eye... old boring lessions
[01:56] <alie> benji try ps-aux
[01:56] <BlueEagle> ircmonkey_: Well, some desklets for the calendar I've been told is on the root window for example. Also a custom panel. Oh, and you need a screwdriver to rip off one of your mouse buttons :p
[01:56] <test34> Can someone try to connect to <IP_ADDRESS> port 33333 using SSH please ?
[01:56] <alie> erm
[01:56] <bob2> sean783: why do you want that instead of the version that comes with ubuntu?
[01:56] <alie> ps -aux
[01:56] <benji> yeah
[01:57] <BlueEagle> test34: I could try but I would fail miserably as that port is blocked by my fw. :)
[01:57] <benji> but that won't show what is using /dev/dsp
[01:57] <bob2> you block ports basedon the *destination* address?
[01:57] <bob2> why?
[01:57] <alie> Rendi from what u have told me it should be loading at boot
[01:57] <BlueEagle> benji: Running ESD?
[01:57] <benji> nevermind
[01:57] <DaMi3n> since i upgraded frm hoary to breezy i cant make any panel transparent. is there a solution to this??
[01:57] <benji> teamspeak didn't close properly
[01:57] <test34> BlueEagle,  I was about to ask the same question as bob2
[01:57] <bob2> er, destination port
[01:58] <bob2> DaMi3n: be less vague
[01:58] <DaMi3n> bob2 : ??
[01:58] <bob2> DaMi3n: do you mean "using transset" or do you mean "I can't make my panel show the background in between items"?
[01:58] <BlueEagle> benji: Everything that's not spesifically allowed is blocked. My sister runs a windows PC on the same net when she drops by with her laptop. Keeps misc trojans from phoning home.
[01:58] <rendi> i'm still confused do this on terminal now i'm go to webadmin interface
[01:58] <BlueEagle> benji: sorry. I was owned by nick completer again
[01:58] <rendi> maybe can help me
[01:58] <cafuego> BlueEagle: So? I'm sure she gets a different ip eh?
[01:59] <benji> lol np
[01:59] <BlueEagle> bob2: test34: ^^
[01:59] <alie> ok
[01:59] <test34> BlueEagle, ok
[01:59] <DaMi3n> bob2: well earlier i could goto panel props and make panels transparent with the solid color option.. now that doesnt work
[01:59] <BlueEagle> cafuego: No, same external ip.
[01:59] <BlueEagle> cafuego: She's <IP_ADDRESS> when she's here.
[01:59] <bob2> DaMi3n: so, you don't mean transpareny, you mean psuedo-transparency
[01:59] <CookedGryphon> DaMi3n, if transparent panels r dissabled then i'm sticking to hoary!
[01:59] <cafuego> BlueEagle: Your firewall can surely distinguish between <IP_ADDRESS> connecting out and any other box doing so?
[02:00] <DaMi3n> bob2: umm ok.. so is there a solution to this
[02:00] <BlueEagle> cafuego: Yes, but I haven't set it up to do so.
[02:00] <bob2> DaMi3n: what does the BTS say?
[02:00] <DaMi3n> Bts??
[02:00] <pc1> friends, i have problem. i have 10 Ubuntu clients here in my cafe, how to share their files? like windows file sharing...
[02:00] <alie> BlueEagle, using iptables and 2 nick cards?
[02:01] <bob2> DaMi3n: bugzilla.ubuntu.com
[02:01] <BlueEagle> alie: iptables and 3 NICs yes.
[02:01] <alie> 3 cool
[02:01] <occy> http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia-live/ironman/9331/275_ironman-mad05_050910.asx
[02:01] <pc1> friends, i have problem. i have 10 Ubuntu clients here in my cafe, how to share their files in the easiest way? like windows file sharing...
[02:01] <bob2> pc1: why would machines in an internat cafe need to share files
[02:01] <DaMi3n> chekin it
[02:01] <occy> anyone know if I can watch that under Ubuntu?
[02:01] <alie> i'm using 2
[02:01] <bob2> pc1: and stop repeating
[02:01] <BlueEagle> alie: NIC = Network Interface Card. NIC card = Network Interface Card card.
[02:01] <cafuego> pc1: Use samba, like windows fiel sharing.
[02:02] <alie> my typo blue l)
[02:02] <pc1> bcos some customers transfer their files from another machine
[02:02] <bob2> pc1: that's great
[02:02] <occy> This is Ironman Wisconsin live:  http://ironmanwisconsin.com/
[02:02] <BlueEagle> alie: Nick = shorthand for nickname = something completely different :)
[02:02] <HrdwrBoB> pc1: have a world writable NFS share?
[02:02] <alie> pc1 try nfs
[02:02] <bob2> pc1: now be a lot more specific about how you want it to work
[02:02] <benji> when using esd...what do i tell programs like teamspeak to use for sound...the device
[02:02] <occy> I'm doing Ironman Florida in November.
[02:02] <occy> :D
[02:02] <benji> or network location:port
[02:02] <mombof> is ubuntu the bot or this chanel?
[02:02] <mombof> *for
[02:02] <occy> geeks on crack[tm]
[02:02] <BlueEagle> mombof: no
[02:02] <pc1> so how will i do it? i dont know much about this linux
[02:02] <alie> agreed BlueEagle
[02:02] <bob2> mombof: ubotu is a bot in this channel, yes
[02:02] <bob2> pc1: you need to be a lot more specific about what you hope to do
[02:03] <BlueEagle> mombof: ubotu is the channel bot
[02:03] <pc1> wats the easiest way for super beginner like me?
[02:03] <DaMi3n> bob2: well the prob is a bit strange.. i can make all my panels placed at the top transparent.. howevr when i do the same with panels placed to the bottom they show weird colors or become black...
[02:03] <bob2> pc1: it's not about "easy", it's about "secure"
[02:03] <cafuego> pc1: MacOS X
[02:03] <alie> LOL
[02:03] <devonst17> w00ty
[02:03] <bob2> DaMi3n: then file a bug if no one else has
[02:03] <devonst17> first thing I hear when I come in is OSx
[02:03] <devonst17> thats awesome
[02:03] <devonst17> ^^
[02:03] <DaMi3n> bob2: ok
[02:03] <pc1> its ok if its not secure as long as its very easy to do cos im a beginner in this ilnux os
[02:03] <BlueEagle> devonst17: ;D
[02:03] <occy> man.. these people carrying little babies scare me.
[02:03] <jf6> how to install codec (mp3 and video)??
[02:04] <jf6> PLEASE
[02:04] <pc1> im using now ubuntu the hedgehog
[02:04] <hop> jf6: hm?
[02:04] <bob2> pc1: no, it's not ok
[02:04] <pc1> so how will i do it please
[02:04] <CookedGryphon> jf6, apt-get install gstreamer*
[02:04] <bob2> jf6: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:04] <bob2> jf6: and in future, please read the FAQ
[02:04] <pc1> so how? please help
[02:04] <DaMi3n> bob2: b4 i do that how do i come to know if the problem has been reported b4??
[02:04] <BlueEagle> !tell jf6 about RestrictedFormats
[02:04] <CookedGryphon> that isprobs better than mine
[02:04] <alie> jf open synaptic and search name and desription for codec
[02:04] <devonst17> How do you enable DRI on an NVidia Card?
[02:04] <bob2> pc1: you need to stop and think
[02:04] <bob2> DaMi3n: please try to use English in here
[02:04] <jf6> bob2,  thx
[02:05] <jf6> BlueEagle,  thx
[02:05] <devonst17> glxgears gets me 90 fps
[02:05] <jf6> hop, thx
[02:05] <BlueEagle> devonst17: It didn't work well for me when I tried it.
[02:05] <bob2> DaMi3n: you look up the bug reports on gnome-panel, and see if any look similar to yours
[02:05] <pc1> what do u mean? can i just have the steps to do it?
[02:05] <jf6> i'm french sorry guys
[02:05] <bob2> devonst17: glxgears is not a benchmarking tool
[02:05] <alie> i don;t think i've ever enabled dri on nvidia cards
[02:05] <mombof> !dpkg
[02:05] <CookedGryphon> jf6, #ubuntu-fr
[02:05] <DaMi3n> bob2: ok tx a lot!!!
[02:05] <qt2> where is the default install location of eggdrop in ubuntu? as in, where should the eggdrop.conf be placed?
[02:05] <bob2> nvidia implemented their own version of DRI
[02:05] <BlueEagle> devonst17: Which driver is listed in xorg.conf? cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf|grep driver
[02:05] <bob2> mombof: you can talk to the /msg
[02:05] <bob2> qt2: dpkg -L eggdrop
[02:05] <cafuego> qt2: /usr/share/doc/eggdrop
[02:05] <bob2> pc1: you need to stop talking and think
[02:05] <bob2> pc1: you haven't actually specified what you want to do yet
[02:06] <mombof> thx i was msg the wrong bot ! oops ! i did ubuntu not ubotu
[02:06] <Brunellus> is the channel +m?
[02:06] <Brunellus> guess not.
[02:06] <qt2> cafuego: u always thought that /usr/share/doc/ was only for documentation?
[02:06] <bob2> no
[02:06] <pc1> how will i think if i dont know any? i said, i need help in sharing files in an ubuntu network here in my little cafe. what are the steps? i dont know any..
[02:06] <bob2> pc1: no, sto pit
[02:07] <jf6> hum nobody for help me?
[02:07] <bob2> pc1: you haven' actually explained any details yet
[02:07] <bob2> jf6: wtf
[02:07] <bob2> jf6: 2 people gave you answers
[02:07] <noti> hi
[02:07] <DaMi3n> bob2: i found a similar bug already posted in there .. what should i do??
[02:07] <BlueEagle> pc1: Are you going to share them with NFS, SMB or perhaps LDAP?
[02:07] <alie> pc1 what files do u want to share? maybe have a central /home or what?
[02:07] <pc1> but i cant explained any details yet cos i have no details yet due to i dont know any of these sharing files in ubuntu
[02:07] <bob2> DaMi3n: read the bug log.  if they've asked for people to follow up, do so. if not, do nothing.
[02:07] <bob2> pc1: no, it has nothing to do with ubuntu
[02:08] <bob2> pc1: you need to explain what ou're trying to do
[02:08] <Chadza> Any reason why quak2, which I installed through apt-get, would just hang at loading the sound driver?
[02:08] <pc1> i need to share the home folder
[02:08] <bob2> if you're running an internet cafe, presumably you know at least a little about networks
[02:08] <bob2> Chadza: pkill esd
[02:08] <bob2> pc1: so, you have actual user accounts?
[02:08] <pc1> i need to share the home folder to all ubuntu computers here
[02:08] <bob2> great
[02:08] <CookedGryphon> pc1 r u english?
[02:08] <bob2> isn't it easier whn you actually tell people what you're trying to do?
[02:08] <pc1> yes, this is the pc1 thts why my nick here is pc1
[02:08] <alie> i assume everyone has same username?
[02:09] <Lichte> how do I get win32codecs in breezy ??
[02:09] <noti> i have a problem with xawtv. when i do "system->preferences->multimedia systems selector" y can see tv when i press "test" button in the video tab
[02:09] <dutch> try easy ubuntu
[02:09] <bob2> pc1: how are you sharing account data between machines?
[02:09] <alie> sorry bob2  for stepping in :d
[02:09] <noti> but with xawtv i see a blue screen..
[02:09] <xTina> Lichte: iirc the w32codecs just worked for me when I took the hoary-extra ones
[02:09] <sean783> wowo, this is chaotic in here
[02:09] <sean783> lots of questions
[02:09] <bob2> noti: you seem to be missing a bunch of words in that "question"
[02:09] <bob2> sean783: you didn't answer my question yet
[02:09] <noti> what?
[02:09] <Lichte> xTina: ok, thanks
[02:10] <pc1> i dont know how to share account, all i know is to connect it to my dsl connection like what i did now..
[02:10] <sean783> what was your question bob2?
[02:10] <sean783> I'm sorry
[02:10] <pc1> by putting gateways and dns
[02:10] <noti> i mean, i can see tv with v4linux but i can't see it with xawtv
[02:10] <pc1> thts all i know but to share files to the network i dont know
[02:10] <alie> noti in /etc/X11/xorg.conf make sure v4l isn;t commented out
[02:10] <bob2> sean783: why are you not using the ati drivers that come with ubuntu?
[02:11] <bob2> pc1: perhaps you should hire a sysadmin?
[02:11] <noti> and i had no problem with suse and other distros
[02:11] <pc1> i would like to share my home folder to all network
[02:11] <bob2> pc1: how are people logging in currently?
[02:11] <thejanitor> question for anybody
[02:11] <pc1> autologin
[02:11] <noti> if someone knows...
[02:11] <sean783> bob2: because the ati drivers that come with Ubuntu are not the FGLRX drivers, and they do not provide DRI for my R350 chipset.
[02:11] <thejanitor> is there a file somewhere in warty that is like xorgconfig
[02:11] <alie> noti, could be a simple permission problem
[02:11] <bob2> sean783: if they're not "FGLRX", what are they?
[02:11] <thejanitor> the ati drivers broke xorg
[02:11] <pc1> but no one knows here how to share linux machines because they only know windows
[02:12] <sean783> bob2: they are community-provided open source drivers written for ATI video cards of the Radeon 9000 OR LOWER brand
[02:12] <bob2> thejanitor: you mean you installed ati drivers from outside ubuntu, and now it's screwed?
[02:12] <sean783> bob2: My card is a Radeon 9800
[02:12] <bob2> sean783: no, sorry, you're wrong
[02:12] <bob2> sean783: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:12] <pc1> i have heard tht need to use samba to share files in linux but i dont know how to
[02:12] <alie> have u tried xawtv as root?
[02:12] <bob2> pc1: no, you don't
[02:12] <jdub> occy: pong
[02:12] <thejanitor> bob2, yeah
[02:12] <thejanitor> i did
[02:12] <bob2> pc1: how do you let people have the same password on each machine?
[02:12] <sean783> bob2: oh, have things changed? fglrxinfo indicates that direct rendering is NOT enabled, is it because the binary drivers are disabled by default, but installed?
[02:12] <sean783> bob2: I will check the webpage
[02:13] <noti> ok. i have no reference to v4l in my xorg.conf. so, what?
[02:13] <alie> holdon a sec
[02:13] <noti> yes, alie, i tried xawtv as root
[02:13] <pc1> i just make the password and accounts on each of the machine fixed so tht they can login easily without the hasle
[02:13] <ksmurf> how do I setup a wificard that wasn't picked up on install in breezy?
[02:13] <benji> I'm having a problem with having my Centrino processor running at 100%..I'm using KLaptop...when I set it to 100%...it runs very very slow
[02:13] <bob2> ksmurf: depends what chipset it is
[02:13] <bob2> benji: don't use klaptop
[02:13] <ksmurf> bob2 AR5212
[02:13] <pc1> so i put accounts from pc1 to pc10 with only one password uniform to all
[02:14] <benji> bob2: Okay, any suggestions for power management?
[02:14] <cafuego> benji: powernowd
[02:14] <benji> thanks
[02:14] <bob2> benji: ubuntu does it by default
[02:14] <alie> in xorg.conf u should see Section Module
[02:14] <cafuego> benji: (via powernowd ;-)
[02:14] <bob2> there's no need to install anything extra
[02:14] <benji> ahh, it's set to run at 100% by default?
[02:14] <bob2> benji: no
[02:14] <alie> in that section type load "v4l"
[02:14] <bob2> it's set to vary speed depending on load
[02:15] <pc1> i have one windows xp machine in my room and i can see it here in network but i cant see the linux machines here in the cafe =( pls help
[02:15] <bob2> ksmurf: which uses which driver?
[02:15] <bob2> pc1: dude, samba will not help you
[02:15] <cafuego> benji: No, ion bootup a powermanagement deramon is started that will step the cpu down to lower speeds, when it's idle.
[02:15] <alie> restart x server
[02:15] <CookedGryphon> my laptop doesn't seem to ahve any power management features enabled by default, it tells me the battery percentage ut that's it, the fan always runs at full
[02:15] <pc1> so what will i do?
[02:15] <noti> thx alie
[02:15] <noti> going to try
[02:15] <alie> ok
[02:15] <pc1> cos i just read tht samba will, i dont know
[02:15] <mombof> pc1, if want to shre between windows and linux you have to setup samba server on the linux box
[02:15] <bob2> CookedGryphon: perhaps it's not supported then
[02:15] <bob2> CookedGryphon: have you reported the issue?
[02:16] <bob2> samba is no the solution for global homedirs
[02:16] <CookedGryphon> bob2, kinda
[02:16] <bob2> not by itself, anyway
[02:16] <sean783> bob2: interesting, the debian package for breezy that contains the fglrx drivers (in restricted) is 8.14.13, several versions old
[02:16] <sean783> bob2: being a Gentoo hacker myself, I'm going to disregard this package and install it from the ATI website. 8.16.20 baby!
[02:16] <bob2> that seems fairly pointless
[02:16] <bob2> but whatever floats your boat
[02:16] <cafuego> eah, wreck the package system. Clever.
[02:16] <bob2> bear in mind you don't get support from ubuntulad anymore
[02:16] <CookedGryphon> bob2, its an athlon mobile processor, and cpu frequency scaling isapparently not supported, but it dunt even give me a time left for the battery
[02:17] <sean783> I will be running Winblows games through Cedega, and need all bugfixes and extra FPS that I can get
[02:17] <alie> maybe sean likes the graphical ati install :D
[02:17] <pc1> yes, i did share linux to my xp machine in my bedroom but my porblem here is i want to share this machine to my other linux machines here in the cafe, i mean i want to share the home folder of this to other linux machines here in the cafe so tht they can see my home folder
[02:17] <bob2> CookedGryphon: if it doesn't work, do file a bug so it can be fixed
[02:17] <cafuego> CookedGryphon: Athlon XP-M's do have frequency scaling.
[02:17] <sean783> I'll also be running native UT2k4
[02:17] <CookedGryphon> and the battery only lasts an hour n a quarter with it workin on full
[02:17] <bob2> pc1: that's not what you're trying to do
[02:17] <HrdwrBoB> pc1: you have a moderately complex problem in a revenue generating business, get a contractor in to fix it
[02:17] <CookedGryphon> cafuego, any idea how to enable it
[02:17] <bob2> pc1: you're trying to let people have a single global homedir
[02:17] <mombof> setup samba client on each
[02:17] <HrdwrBoB> mombof: don't complicate the issue
[02:17] <bob2> mombof: how will that help?
[02:17] <cafuego> CookedGryphon: Well, mine does anyway. Mine just loads up acpi and runs powernowd; that's all there was to it.
[02:18] <mombof> he obviosly want to use more than just linux
[02:18] <occy> jdub, heyaz
[02:18] <alie> nfs would be the way i'd have thought
[02:18] <CookedGryphon> cafuego, mine doesn't, it says at startup MAD mobile athlon 4 known _not_ to support cpu frequency scaling
[02:18] <bob2> mombof: how will samba help setup global home directories?
[02:18] <xTina> pc1: you want to install an nfs server, export the homedir on each machine and mount the homdir from each of the machines on every other machine. so on pc1 you'll have the local home in /home/pc1 and the remote homes for example in /mnt/pc2, /mnt/pc3 ... /mnt/pc10.
[02:18] <noti> it works!!! thx a lot alie
[02:18] <cafuego> CookedGryphon: Mebbe your have an older model, dunno.
[02:18] <occy> jdub, just wanted to say I think it's a bad idea to have Breezy listed at the top of the download pages until it's stable.
[02:18] <noti> trying to solve the sound problem now
[02:18] <alie> anytime niti
[02:18] <noti> thx
[02:18] <bob2> pc1: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-4048.html, for a start
[02:18] <alie> sound?
[02:18] <noti> bye
[02:18] <noti> yes, sound
[02:19] <occy> jdub, I've seen at least one perosn in here who was trying to run it who was new to linux and it was their first experience.
[02:19] <noti> i hear nothing
[02:19] <cafuego> CookedGryphon: Mine goes from 500 MHz to 1.8 Ghz without issues.
[02:19] <pc1> the problem is just this, i want to share the home folder of this ubuntu to my other ubuntu linux here in the cafe, thts all, not global but locally.
[02:19] <alie> from tv?
[02:19] <noti> yes
[02:19] <bob2> pc1: you setup NFS on a central machine and mount /home from it on any other machines
[02:19] <mombof> asign each user to a group that can read/write a whatever dir he wants
[02:19] <jdub> occy: which pages?
[02:19] <noti> y have connected the outpout fromn the tv to the input of the sound card
[02:19] <nickv111> I'm having problems installing initrd-tools during the ubuntu install
[02:19] <alie> ok try a couple of things... brb
[02:19] <occy> jdub, ubuntulinux.org/downloads/
[02:19] <xTina> pc1: I just explained to you how to do that.
[02:19] <pc1> kk, il try tht nfs. thanks friends
[02:19] <bob2> nickv111: hoary? sure the cd is ok?
[02:19] <occy> jdub, breezy, IMHO, should be second on the list.
[02:19] <alie> ok is line-in turned up?
[02:19] <nickv111> Does anyone else get an error when installing initrd-tools?
[02:19] <nickv111> bob2: Yes
[02:19] <crimsun> occy: if Breezy is _that_ broken that a new user has a disastrous experience, then that's a critical issue, and testing will help iron that out before the final release.
[02:19] <nickv111> bob2: I am positive
[02:20] <noti> turned up
[02:20] <occy> crimsun, :/
[02:20] <jdub> occy: erk, yeah
[02:20] <pc1> hi tina, ok ok il try =)
[02:20] <pc1> but honest i dont know this nfs thingy, il just try, cos im a beginner in this linux
[02:20] <occy> crimsun, well, good point but... do we really want to displace advocacy with new users as guinie pigs?
[02:20] <nickv111> I'm running it in qemu. Maybe I'll try without kqemu
[02:20] <bob2> nickv111: you checked the md5sum yourself?
[02:20] <sean783> Isn't there a command to search all current APT repositories for packages using the commandline?
[02:21] <alie> try this command... no quotes "v4lctl volume mute off"
[02:21] <CookedGryphon> apt-get search
[02:21] <sean783> ah :)
[02:21] <sean783> knew it, thanks
[02:21] <sean783> thought it was like apt-search lol
[02:21] <occy> I just think it's a bad policy to have "unstable or testing" as the top default download.
[02:21] <occy> My suggestion is this:  have alisting at the top of the downloads page:
[02:21] <noti> trying
[02:21] <occy> * Stable (use this if you aren't sure)
[02:21] <crimsun> occy: afaict, it's the ONLY listing under Downloads, which is bad
[02:21] <occy> * Testing
[02:21] <occy> * foo
[02:21] <occy> crimsun, scroll down
[02:21] <occy> crimsun, stable is waaaay down there.
[02:22] <occy> which is bad, again, in my humble opinon
[02:22] <crimsun> ah, I was looking at the announcement
[02:22] <occy> at least I told "The Man" about it.
[02:22] <alie> noti,  also try another tv app.. like tvtime
[02:22] <occy> ;)
[02:22] <occy> Just doing my part.
[02:22] <occy> hehe
[02:22] <sean783> Now this is perplexing: my downloads get to 99.99999999%, then hang! it won't finish! >_<
[02:22] <sean783> (using Firefox)
[02:22] <occy> crimsun, watching the Ironman Wisconsin finishers coming in now.
[02:22] <occy> crimsun, freakin' crazy
[02:23] <crimsun> they're certainly dedicated
[02:23] <occy> heh
[02:23] <noti> works!!! thnx again alie...
[02:23] <occy> crimsun, 8 weeks till Ironman Florida!
[02:23] <alie> welcome
[02:23] <noti> yes. i tried a lot of them
[02:23] <noti> thx again
[02:23] <noti> i'm going to see tv now, hehehe
[02:23] <noti> see you
[02:23] <occy> I should have my head examined
[02:23] <noti> bye
[02:23] <nickv111> bob2: Well, no, but I've downloaded both ubuntu and kubuntu and they both give me the same error
[02:23] <alie> took me 4 days to get mythtv to have sound because of that :P
[02:23] <bob2> nickv111: so, time to check the md5sum of the CD
[02:24] <alie> bye
[02:26] <nickv111> bob2: Yeah, the MD5SUM is fine
[02:26] <nickv111> bob2: I'm using the 5.10 preview
[02:26] <bob2> the md5sum of the disk or the iso?
[02:26] <bob2> oh, right
[02:26] <bob2> report a bug then if you're sure the disk is ok
[02:27] <benji> argh
[02:27] <benji> how can i get rid of klaptop from running?
[02:27] <benji> kapicd or whatever
[02:27] <benji> kacipd*
[02:28] <bob2> er
[02:28] <bob2> kacpid is a kernel thread
[02:28] <bob2> killing that would be fairly suboptimal
[02:28] <benji> oh
[02:28] <benji> hmm
[02:28] <benji> ahh i see
[02:28] <benji> i'll just disable everything in klaptop then
[02:29] <IRCMonkey_> no
[02:29] <IRCMonkey_> hmm
[02:29] <pc1> waaa
[02:29] <IRCMonkey_> sry everyone
[02:29] <nickv111> Is the preview considered stable?
[02:29] <bob2> go kde, it's your birthday
[02:29] <pc1> i dont know how to do NFS, can someone teach me the steps please? =(
[02:29] <cafuego> nickv111: Nope
[02:29] <dummer101> according to me...no
[02:29] <dummer101> I get bootstrap errors
[02:29] <nickv111> Maybe I should use 5.04 then
[02:29] <bob2> preview is considered preview
[02:29] <xTina> nickv111: I consider it stable :)
[02:29] <cafuego> nickv111: That's why it's a preview, not a release.
[02:29] <bob2> pc1: read the URL I gave you
[02:30] <benji> hmmm my system is still running funny after i disabled everything in klaptop
[02:30] <alie> bye for now chaps
[02:30] <pc1> what was tht bob2? i forgot please
[02:30] <bob2> pc1: scroll up
[02:30] <pc1> kk
[02:30] <xTina> nickv111: It's been working a lot better for me than hoary. But I'm the person who managed to hit any bug that was there in hoary in the past few weeks ;)
[02:30] <dummer101> Okay... I've got a question here.. I'm running Hoary... and I can't get it to work with my NIC (Realtek 8139c) but it will work with knoppix...anyone have anyideas?
[02:30] <bob2> and if you're asking for help, you can go slightly out of your way to hit the "page up" key before asking people the same question
[02:30] <sean783> hey, that's no fair - as a user I don't have permission to write to anything under /media - how do I give myself permission?
[02:31] <bob2> sean783: depends entirely on what you moutned under there
[02:31] <sean783> THAT'S why my Firefox!!!! downloads aren't completing!
[02:31] <xTina> btw, anyone around other running breezy too? and having realplayer installed or willing to install it?
[02:31] <sean783> well they're the base folder of hard drives on my system
[02:31] <sean783> and partitions
[02:31] <bob2> then perhaps you mounted it wrongly
[02:31] <xTina> -other that is ;)
[02:31] <dummer101> bob2 was that in response to me?
[02:31] <bigme> sean783, sudo chmod -R 777 /media
[02:31] <bob2> did you forget umask=000 if they're windows filesystems?
[02:32] <cafuego> bigme: What a retarded idea!
[02:32] <sean783> thanks bigme - I'll give that a try, sounds promising
[02:32] <bob2> bigme: that will not help if they are windows partitions
[02:32] <bob2> sean783: do not do that
[02:32] <bob2> dummer101: no
[02:32] <sean783> they're ext3
[02:32] <cafuego> sean783: Adjust the mount options for those drives, so your suer account can write to them.
[02:32] <bob2> sean783: then fix the permissions carefully
[02:32] <carlson> hey all... anyone can explain why some apps like sinaptyc doesnt get the gnome themes i am using?
[02:32] <bob2> instead of using the h-bomb hammer of chmod -R 777
[02:32] <bigme> sorry,, didn't read the whole thing
[02:33] <pc1> bob2, gonna eat my breakfast, im hungry, my little brain wont work cos im starving, haha, be back freind =)
[02:33] <cafuego> sean783: For ext3, probably make them GROUP writeable and make sure you're in the right group (you could chgrp too)
[02:33] <bob2> carlson: by "some" do you mean "ones run as root"?
[02:33] <xTina> carlson: You mean synaptic?
[02:33] <cafuego> bigme: chmod 777 is ALWAYS a bad idea, irrespective of the problem.
[02:33] <dummer101> anyone have any ideas...as to the NIC hardware prob?
[02:33] <jf6> hum someone to help me?
[02:33] <xTina> carlson: if you mean that, it's probably because it's running as root.
[02:33] <bob2> dummer101: how old is the machine?
[02:33] <bob2> jf6: holy hell dude
[02:33] <xTina> jf6: did you ask a question?
[02:33] <carlson> bob2, hey now that you said it, you're rightm, all program i am running as a root doesnt get the theme
[02:34] <bob2> jf6: you've been told the answer 3 times now
[02:34] <carlson> is there a way to set themes for root?
[02:34] <bob2> carlson: and how are you running them?
[02:34] <dummer101> bob2 not sure... it's a P3
[02:34] <bob2> dummer101: try booting with "acpi=off"
[02:34] <dummer101> not new...but not ancient
[02:34] <jf6> bob2 :sure
[02:34] <carlson> bob2,  i have to put my pass to enter then, so i guess i am running as root, right? i am using ununtu
[02:34] <bob2> jf6: so why did you ignore that answer?
[02:34] <bob2> carlson: right
[02:35] <jf6> bob2 sorry i'm french and i dont understand everything
[02:35] <bob2> jf6: then go to #ubuntu-fr
[02:36] <xTina> carlson: You can either copy the respective configuration files (.gtkrc if it's a gtk theme) to the root account (/root), or you might be able to run the respective config tools as root, or you can log into Gnome as root and configure stuff there (which is evil and therefore disabled on Ubuntu by default).
[02:36] <carlson> xTina,  thanx thanx...
[02:37] <vinux> Sounds works in 5.04 but doesn't work in 5.10. Anybody have ideas how to fix this?
[02:37] <bob2> a) define "works"
[02:37] <bob2> b) file a bug
[02:38] <FireRabbit> breezy's gstreamer package is missing ximagesrc?
[02:38] <black_> hello everybody
[02:38] <Bubblefly> Hey all
[02:38] <carlson> xTina,  i never thought that it should be because of it!!! i tought it was some limitation with synaptic... but now its working, thanx!
[02:38] <sean783> Is there any PAM modules on Gnome that work with a biometric fingerprint reader? (the system already recognizes the device)
[02:38] <black_> i want to configure nautilus to have a button that open the terminal
[02:38] <bob2> PAM has little to do with Gnome
[02:38] <black_> does someone can help me?
[02:39] <FireRabbit> black_, when you right-click the desktop?
[02:39] <BlueEagle> black_: The file browser or the panel?
[02:39] <xTina> black_: apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[02:39] <sean783> doesn't gdm use pam to authenticate you?
[02:39] <bob2> and I'm pretty sure no laptops have working fingerprint readers under Linux
[02:39] <black_> BlueEagle: yes
[02:39] <bob2> sean783: that's the only linkage, yes
[02:39] <xTina> black_: Or do you mean an actual button?
[02:39] <`fusion> :>
[02:39] <cusco> using breezy, when gnomebaker is converting audiofiles...
[02:39] <sean783> it's not a laptop fingerprint reader; it's a USB one
[02:39] <cusco> (gnomebaker:15834): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_set_geometry_hints: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed
[02:39] <cusco> (gnomebaker:15834): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_window_move_resize: assertion `GDK_IS_WINDOW (window)' failed
[02:39] <BlueEagle> black_: That was not a yes/no question but an either or.
[02:39] <`fusion> how do I exit gnome?  So I can install an nvidia driver :(
[02:39] <cusco> and the program freezes/crashes
[02:39] <bob2> sean783: linux supports it? really?
[02:39] <bob2> `fusion: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:39] <sean783> hang on, let me provide you the module name
[02:39] <sean783> one moment bob2
[02:39] <black_> BlueEagle: i want that nautilus open a terminal with the actual location
[02:40] <black_> do you understand me?
[02:40] <FireRabbit> black_, oh, there are scripts that do that
[02:40] <bob2> cusco: minor bug...does it continue working?
[02:40] <xTina> black_: Did you try right-clicking in the window?
[02:40] <BlueEagle> oh, yes I do, and I want that too. :)
[02:40] <FireRabbit> err..
[02:40] <black_> let me see
[02:40] <xTina> black_: there should be an open terminal menu item in the context menu
[02:40] <FireRabbit> the nautilus-open-terminal thing does that
[02:40] <xTina> black_: if there isn't, see the apt-get command
[02:40] <FireRabbit> has anyone tried Istanbul package?
[02:40] <black_> exact
[02:40] <black_> that is what i am looking
[02:40] <FireRabbit> the*
[02:41] <cafuego> FireRabbit: not COnstantinople?
[02:41] <FireRabbit> cafuego, huh?
[02:41] <bob2> it's Istanbul, not Constantinople.
[02:41] <bob2> and it's no oe's business but the Turks
[02:41] <cafuego> bob2: ... nobody's business but the turks.
[02:41] <FireRabbit> I dont know what you guys are talking about ...
[02:41] <gloria> Does anyone know if it is possible to install a windows program, specificaly Quicken 2005, into a Ubuntu OS?
[02:42] <MrBear> have fun people
[02:42] <sean783> bob2: nevermind, it is showing up as a 0x0 device class; it's only recognized as "a low-power usb device"
[02:42] <dalamar> possibly with wine/crossover office
[02:42] <crimsun> bob2: / sean783: http://www.qrivy.net/~michael/blua/
[02:42] <sean783> bob2: oh well... i was misled by device manager for a moment there
[02:42] <cusco> bob2: no.. it stops
[02:42] <bob2> ol' blue eyes was in they might be giants?
[02:42] <sean783> crimsun: is that biometric | linux?
[02:42] <bob2> gloria: might be possible with wine
[02:42] <cafuego> FireRabbit: cultural barbarian!
[02:42] <bob2> gloria: appdb.codeweavers.com
[02:42] <FireRabbit> ugh.
[02:42] <bob2> yes, ignoring the device manaer is generally a good move
[02:42] <ompaul> bob2, na it was new york, new york!
[02:43] <crimsun> sean783: it's for pam-bioapi, which UPEK is working on
[02:43] <gloria> k, i'll try it
[02:43] <sean783> fantastic
[02:43] <ompaul> cafuego, watch out for mac the knife .......
[02:43] <sean783> crimsun: that's a handy link ty
[02:43] <crimsun> sean783: np, though the link is from thinkwiki
[02:43] <bob2> haha
[02:44] <carlson> hi again! anyone knows if there is a way to get or emulate something like the dockbar from the new macos?
[02:44] <pvt2> does anyone know what software work with cam in ubuntu
[02:44] <carlson> on windows there is a objectdock, but on linux it seens that there isnt any
[02:44] <gloria> thanks, guys
[02:45] <bob2> carlson: and the docbar does...
[02:45] <CookedGryphon> pvt2, there's gnomemeeting, gaimwv works with yahoo only and there's the cvs version of amsn which works but is unstable
[02:45] <cafuego> carlson: On Linux you can run 'afterstep', which is based on NeXT, which is what OSX is based on. The _original_ dock!
[02:45] <carlson> bob2,  its a container with icons to open programs and iconified programs... when you pass your mouse over it zoom the icon... its just a nice stuff from macs lol
[02:46] <cafuego> carlson: People have written a few of 'em for Linux, afaik. They may not be packaged in/for Ubuntu though.
[02:46] <hondje> why drag the icon when you can just click it?
[02:46] <carlson> cafuego, i was searching through google, but with no success
[02:46] <cafuego> carlson: give www.freshmeat.net a try
[02:46] <carlson> cafuego,  but did you see the new dock fro macs? its very cool
[02:47] <bob2> that sounds annoying
[02:47] <bob2> I ilike that gnome stays the hell out of my way
[02:47] <cafuego> carlson: I have a bunch of Macs here, running OSX.
[02:47] <xTina> carlson: Trust me, the zooming gets boring after 2 minutes.
[02:47] <newbuntu> How do I see NTFS partitions?
[02:47] <ompaul> !tell newbuntu about ntfs
[02:47] <carlson> xTina, i have this on my windows and i love it lol
[02:47] <benji> anyway I can find the current cpu speed of my centrino processor?
[02:47] <xTina> carlson: *shiver*
[02:48] <carlson> xTina,  but i want to finnaly stop using windows, then i wont have this dock anymore :(
[02:48] <meko> cn i run windows based games on ubunto ?
[02:48] <hondje> carlson: if you like it that much, use gdesklets to run one of the theme thingies
[02:48] <HrdwrBoB> meko: short answer: no
[02:48] <HrdwrBoB> meko: long answer: maybe
[02:48] <meko> :(
[02:48] <holycow> http://www.phoneyworld.com/newspage.aspx?n=1344  okay, this is frickin cool
[02:48] <meko> hahah
[02:48] <hondje> HrdwrBoB's long answer was almost twice as long
[02:49] <genbie> anyone can hear sound at the apple.com trailers plz? I just installed mplayer on breezy but sound is not working on the trailers
[02:49] <hondje> er, over
[02:49] <meko> wat i this breezy that i hear
[02:49] <kailer> hey folks when icompile a program to install is it unreasonable for it to take more then 10 minutes?
[02:50] <ompaul> !tell meko about breezy
[02:50] <xTina> kailer: Not at all.
[02:50] <genbie> meko new ubuntu realease.. final in october
[02:50] <bimberi> breezy
[02:50] <bob2> kailer: depends entirely on what it is
[02:50] <xTina> kailer: Though it depends on the program and the computer.
[02:50] <odat> hello everyone
[02:50] <eltano> hola buenas noches. alguien habla espaol, necesito ayuda urgente...
[02:50] <odat> does anyone have any experience with evolution?
[02:50] <eltano> soy nuevo con linux.
[02:50] <bimberi> !es
[02:50] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:50] <kailer> k cause i just configured xine and went to make it and its been going for quite awhile
[02:50] <bob2> eltano: this obviously is not a spanish-speaking channel
[02:50] <eltano> ok
[02:50] <CookedGryphon> eltano#ubuntu-es
[02:50] <bob2> odat: way better to ask your question
[02:51] <bob2> kailer: xine is in ubuntu...
[02:51] <odat> i can not seem to figure out how to delete the items it the trash folder of evolution
[02:51] <bruno> Can anyone tell me how install cedega4.4 on ubuntu 5.04 PLZ ?
[02:51] <CookedGryphon> odat, i use it, y?
[02:51] <newbuntu> !tell newbuntu about caffeine
[02:51] <bob2> bruno: #cedega
[02:51] <kailer> i was installing it because apparently Divx isn't on the system
[02:51] <bruno> bob2, thanks :)
[02:52] <bob2> kailer: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:52] <caonex> Hello, I just installed the breezy preview release; however when i reinstalled my laptop ran out of batteries and there seems to be some packages left so i was wondering how can i run the baseconfig and make sure everything that is installed automatically is ?
[02:52] <cafuego> bruno: /j #cedega
[02:52] <odat> anyone know?
[02:52] <newbuntu> !tell newbuntu about wmv
[02:52] <meko> not bad looks like breezy kicks ass
[02:52] <bob2> baseconfig isn't in charge of installing things
[02:52] <caonex> meko, i agree
[02:53] <meko> can i update to breezy
[02:53] <CookedGryphon> odat, i think it empties automatically on exit
[02:53] <meko> or i have to download
[02:53] <caonex> bob2, whatever it is?
[02:53] <sean783> I like breezy a lot!! great that I joined Ubuntu 2 days into its release
[02:53] <lokadin> hey say i was wondering how to use localizations
[02:53] <lokadin> like can someone point me to a howto?
[02:53] <odat> cookedgryphon: no it doesn't
[02:53] <bob2> meko: sure you can update, it's not a good idea tho, yet
[02:53] <caonex> bob2, the process of installing stuff got interrupted what can i run to make sure everything is here?
[02:53] <benji> is dmix difficult to setup?
[02:53] <bob2> sean783: 2 days into it's release?
[02:53] <bob2> bruno: no
[02:53] <bob2> er
[02:53] <bob2> benji: no
[02:53] <meko> whys that bob2 ?
[02:53] <sean783> 9/9/05 is the modified date on my ISO
[02:53] <bob2> meko: because it's not finished yet
[02:53] <bruno> does anyone have installed the cedega on ubuntu ?
[02:54] <bob2> bruno: #cedega
[02:54] <eltano> help me.
[02:54] <bob2> this is not an Ubuntu question
[02:54] <bob2> eltano: #ubuntu-es
[02:54] <kailer> forgive me if i'm sounding stuid and what now win3 codecs are restricted?
[02:54] <bruno> bob2, nobody helps over there
[02:54] <bob2> sean783: that's not a release iso then
[02:54] <eltano> ya entre nadie hablaaaaaaaaaaa
[02:54] <bob2> kailer: read that page
[02:54] <bruno> bob2, why is not a ubuntu question ?
[02:54] <sean783> development branch :-)
[02:54] <bimberi> caonex: "sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop" should do it
[02:54] <bob2> bruno: because you're using proprietary software that you bought
[02:54] <`fusion> I figured it out mostly :\
[02:54] <bob2> bruno: it's your vendoers repsonsbility to help you
[02:54] <`fusion> I just need to get gnome at 1920x1200, I don't know how
[02:54] <`fusion> :(
[02:54] <bruno> bob2, i wanna install something in ubuntu and its not a unbutu question ?
[02:54] <caonex> bimberi thanks
[02:54] <odat> cookedgryphon: k i just set it up to do so on exit
[02:54] <ompaul> !tell kailer about restricted
[02:54] <bob2> benji: http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin
[02:54] <odat> thanx
[02:55] <HrdwrBoB> !resolution
[02:55] <ubotu> hmm... resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:55] <`fusion> :D
[02:55] <Stark> What does gtk-WARNING mean?
[02:55] <bimberi> caonex: yw :)
[02:55] <bruno> just wanna some help
[02:55] <bob2> bruno: you paid transgaming for software, and now they refuse to help you use it?
[02:55] <BlueEagle> where did black_ go?
[02:55] <cafuego> Stark: Generally means you can ignore whatever follows.
[02:55] <kewlman> hi all!
[02:55] <qmanman> anyone using the gperfection theme from gnomelooks.org?
[02:55] <qmanman> damn good looking
[02:55] <lokadin> is there anyway to localize ubuntu?
[02:55] <CookedGryphon> eltano /join #ubuntu-es
[02:55] <Stark> Well, I'm trying to start ubuntu for the first time, and that's what it gave me
[02:55] <bruno> bob2, i didnt pay up
[02:55] <holycow> http://www.soft.uni-linz.ac.at/_wiki/tiki-index.php?page=ProjectBluezHandsfree  <-- lol, well i guess we already have the same thingy
[02:55] <bob2> lokadin: you didn't select your language during the install?
[02:56] <bruno> i got a .deb from a friend
[02:56] <lokadin> bob2, can i add new ones?
[02:56] <Agrajag> bruno: then you are breaking the license and the law.
[02:56] <bob2> bruno: that's great; using pirated proprietary software is even more off-topic
[02:56] <bob2> bruno: please just go to #cedega and wiat
[02:56] <bob2> or do whatever else, but do not continue the discussion in here
[02:56] <bruno> bob2, i am under license
[02:56] <Stark> cafuego: I'm trying to start ubuntu, but it crashes when it tries to load the x-server thing
[02:56] <qmanman> bruno: patience is a virtue dude, someone in #cedega will help
[02:56] <bruno> bob2, if u doesnt wanna help just said
[02:56] <cblade> hi  all
[02:57] <bob2> bruno: good, go elsewhere.  thanks and good luck.
[02:57] <mombof> lokadin, , try dpkg-reconfigure locales
[02:57] <lokadin> mombof, thanks
[02:57] <genbie> anyone can hear sound at the apple.com trailers plz? I just installed mplayer on breezy but sound is not working on the trailers
[02:57] <qmanman> quicktime sucks =p
[02:57] <ompaul> bruno, it is not a ubuntu issue, it is a gaming issue, please take it up with the people so closed the source - after all that is why they closed it, to keep taking to you
[02:57] <Stark> Could someone please help me, I can't even get ubuntu to run
[02:57] <azazel_ubuntu> hey, is there a package that contains the helvetica font? I need it for xfig
[02:57] <ompaul> bruno, talking that is
[02:58] <bob2> Stark: in what sense can you not get it to run?
[02:58] <bob2> azazel_ubuntu: msttcorefonts
[02:58] <bob2> azazel_ubuntu: but you'll need to point X at it manually
[02:58] <CookedGryphon> Stark, what error messages do u get>
[02:58] <azazel_ubuntu> bob2, oh
[02:58] <don824chan> woot
[02:58] <Stark> It crashes when it tries to start GNOME, and I trie to type x-session-manager, and it gives me an error
[02:58] <cblade> can i get help with setup of dhcp scope
[02:59] <CookedGryphon> Stark, what about startx?
[02:59] <Stark> It tells me gtk-WARNING **: cannoty open display
[02:59] <bob2> cblade: you need to ask a question first..
[02:59] <bob2> Stark: of course, you don't have X working yet, how do you expect X applications to work?
[02:59] <cafuego> Stark: Ah, X isn't running.
[02:59] <bob2> Stark: this is a default install?
[02:59] <Stark> I didn't try that one, I'll try it (I'm new to linux)
[02:59] <don824chan> occy: I downgraded to hoary finally
[02:59] <holycow> where is the latest breezy iso located?  i downloaded one yesterday and had issues installing.  i would like to make sure i have the latest iso before posting bugs
[03:00] <vinux> bob2, I fixed my sound. I went to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards and did what it said. Works great now :)
[03:00] <cblade> hi bob2 question ?
[03:00] <cafuego> Stark: To start gnome, run 'startx'.
[03:00] <Stark> I'm running off the live disc to see if it'll work first, and I've used the default install
[03:00] <bob2> cblade: if you want help with something, you ask a question
[03:00] <bob2> not "ca I ask a question?"
[03:00] <caonex> bimberi, i guess i have everything. It said everything was ok
[03:00] <azazel_ubuntu> bob2, hmm, the msttcorefonts package just gets an error on my machine :/ "No valid cab files found"
[03:01] <CookedGryphon> lol bob2, ppl asking if they can ask really annoys u dunt it
[03:01] <holycow> !breezy
[03:01] <windex> bob2, can i not ask a question?
[03:01] <bob2> CookedGryphon: it's a ridiculous waste of time
[03:01] <Stark> I tried that, and it gave me a bunch of errors about not finding framebuffers, and tells me to look at a log file
[03:01] <bob2> even more than IRC itself is
[03:01] <cblade> bob2 is there  a way to ask a question?
[03:02] <pvt2> does anybody know how to install logitech cam in ubuntu tnx
[03:02] <windex> why is chanserv in #ubuntu ;p
[03:02] <cafuego> Stop it you guys, he'll explode.
[03:02] <bob2> cblade: wtf
[03:02] <HrdwrBoB> CookedGryphon: when it happens constantly, yes.
[03:02] <Stark> I'm using an Nvidia card, if that helps
[03:02] <reiki> ok this is funny...  right now I have absolutely no problems. Everything works. I can do anything I normally did in WinXP. .... ok so I can't use PhotoShop, but I'm learning The Gimp.... I can surf, do email, use office apps, work on my website, listen to CDs, burn CDs, rip Cds to mp3.... I can't think of anything I need to mess with.
[03:02] <bob2> cblade: just ask your dhcp question already
[03:02] <ompaul> !tell cblade about ask
[03:02] <CookedGryphon> cblade, u just asked one right there
[03:02] <glick> hello all
[03:02] <reiki> LIFE IS GOOD WITH UBUNTU!  hahahah
[03:02] <bobby> yes, yes it is
[03:02] <bob2> cblade: you could have fixed it and be drinking a jug of beer by now if you'd asked it to begin with
[03:02] <Stark> what  is the problem with Nvidia cards?
[03:02] <bob2> reiki: great to hear
[03:02] <glick> excuse me, how come the automatic update tool does not automatically notify me of updates anymore?
[03:02] <odat> anyone know how to edit items that are in Places folder in the gnome menu?
[03:02] <cafuego> Stark: Nothing, it's their owners ;-)
[03:02] <ompaul> Stark, simply put closed source hardware
[03:02] <glick> i have to use the command line now and do sudo apt-get update
[03:03] <glick> and then apt-get upgrade
[03:03] <don824chan> hey guys
[03:03] <ompaul> !Tell Stark about nvidia
[03:03] <CookedGryphon> here too, only my winmodem takes some coaxing into action, but apart from that
[03:03] <don824chan> i tried to install wine by saying sudo apt-get install wine
[03:03] <don824chan> and I got an error in return that said its not available
[03:03] <CookedGryphon> don824chan, i can't install wine atm, says bad header or somethign
[03:03] <caonex> i installed ndiswrapper-source, where is the directory located so i can install it?
[03:04] <CookedGryphon> is that the problem ure getting??
[03:04] <bob2> caonex: then uninstall it, you don't need it
[03:04] <cblade> how to setup a scope  dhcp on ubuntu server
[03:04] <don824chan> nope
[03:04] <Stark> I can't start GNOME, though
[03:04] <bob2> caonex: the ubuntu kernels have the module already
[03:04] <don824chan> occy was helping me earlier
[03:04] <bob2> cblade: what is "scope dhcp"?
[03:04] <pvt2> does anybody know how to install logitech cam in ubuntu tnx
[03:04] <pvt2> wer can i find a driver?
[03:04] <caonex> bob2, awsome!! that is for breezy we are talking about right?
[03:05] <Stark> Is there any way to enable NVidia drivers purely through the console?
[03:05] <caonex> bob2, so i just need modprobe ndiswrapper?
[03:05] <bob2> caonex: and hoary and warty...
[03:05] <cafuego> Stark: Sure.
[03:05] <bob2> Stark: how would that help?
[03:05] <Stark> I can
[03:05] <cblade> server give out ip address to client computer
[03:05] <bob2> Stark: and of course, wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:05] <bob2> cblade: so what did you mean by "scope"?
[03:05] <Stark> I can't start Gnome, for whatever reason
[03:05] <bob2> pvt2: apt-cache search logitch
[03:06] <caonex> bob2, i am in breezy
[03:06] <bob2> caonex: okiedokie
[03:06] <robotgeek> would anyone know if the microphone on a powerbook g4 is supported? any way to test if it is working?
[03:06] <Stark> My graphics card is kinda old, though... it's a Riva TNT
[03:06] <bob2> run a sound recorder
[03:06] <bob2> whistle
[03:06] <caonex> bob2, so i need the source
[03:06] <bob2> profit!
[03:06] <holycow> wtf?
[03:06] <cblade> ip address range <IP_ADDRESS> to <IP_ADDRESS>
[03:06] <holycow> wtf!?
[03:06] <caonex> bob2, but i cannot find it once apt is done
[03:06] <bob2> caonex: what?
[03:06] <caonex> bob2, any ideas?
[03:07] <caonex> bob2, ndiswrapper-source
[03:07] <holycow> i just downloaded the breezy iso in 1 minute and 9 seconds
[03:07] <bob2> caonex: find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -name "*ndis*"
[03:07] <CookedGryphon> holycow!
[03:07] <bob2> cblade: that's greay
[03:07] <odat> anyone know how to edit items that are in Places folder in the gnome menu?
[03:07] <bob2> cblade: install dhcp3-server and read the config file, it explains it all
[03:07] <holycow> CookedGryphon, i gotta burn it to see if its the real thing or some error
[03:07] <bob2> odat: I'm pretty sure you can't
[03:07] <odat> really?
[03:08] <caonex> bob2, makes sense thanks
[03:08] <cblade> bob2 thank you
[03:08] <holycow> ohhhhh
[03:08] <holycow> i t must of been cashed at the isp
[03:08] <glick> how can i make kde applications stop asking for kdewallet passwords
[03:08] <holycow> *hmmm*
[03:08] <holycow> thats the only way
[03:08] <sorush20> I wana run solaris is it any better than Linux
[03:08] <bob2> caonex: ie you have the module already?
[03:08] <CookedGryphon> holycow, lemme guess
[03:08] <holycow> sorush20, depends on your workload and skill level
[03:08] <bob2> glick: #kubuntu, I guess
[03:08] <caonex> bob2, i doubt it i cannot mount it
[03:08] <caonex> or modprobe it
[03:09] <CookedGryphon> oh maybve not, i thought ud maybe dlded a bittorrent seedy thinkgy
[03:09] <sorush20> how old is linux
[03:09] <glick> bob2, im not using kubuntu just kontact
[03:09] <bob2> caonex: and the output of my command was...?
[03:09] <glick> sorush20, almost 16 years old
[03:09] <bob2> sorush20: 14 years or so
[03:09] <bob2> glick: no
[03:09] <holycow> sorush20, the kernel is 15 or so, gnu tools 25, the rest of the system depends
[03:09] <BlueEagle> how come my nautilus hasn't got a File->Script menu? Am I missing something here?
[03:09] <sorush20> and windows
[03:09] <Riddell> bob2: run kwalletmanager and set your wallets to not need passwords
[03:09] <bob2> sorush20: this doesn't seem very ubuntu-support-related
[03:09] <bob2> Riddell: ahhh
[03:10] <bob2> Riddell: perhaps one for the FAQ then :)
[03:10] <ompaul> sorush20, ask google about 1991 Linus Torvalds 1985/1983 and richard stallman
[03:10] <don824chan> Whats Buddy Pounce in Gaim?
[03:10] <CookedGryphon> sorush20, y does it matter? u can't compare widows with linux age, because msdos came b4 windows..
[03:10] <bob2> 14th birthday of the first kernel release is this month, actually
[03:10] <robotgeek>  The dmix plugin supports only playback stream?? what can i do?
[03:10] <maze> tried breezy but to many comercial apps didnt work .. had to switch to foresight
[03:10] <CookedGryphon> bob2, r they havin a party?
[03:11] <caonex> bob2, no output for that
[03:11] <glick> thanks Riddell
[03:11] <holycow> maze, naturally, do you drive cars that are only half made and still in the crash testing stage?
[03:11] <holycow> *look ma, 3 wheels!*
[03:11] <bob2> caonex: packages.ubuntu.com, which package does it say it's in?
[03:11] <holycow> -_-
[03:11] <bob2> (in breezy)
[03:11] <maze> :]
[03:11] <don824chan> what is buddy pounce in Gaim?
[03:12] <nfinitep1astik> don824chan: let's you know when someone status changes
[03:12] <don824chan> thanks
[03:12] <`fusion> thanks to whomever told me to use that help for resolutoin
[03:12] <`fusion> all in all plus some other things got it working
[03:12] <`fusion> :D
[03:12] <caonex> bob2, the package is ndiswrapper-source
[03:13] <ompaul> maze, that is why there is development and release - if you did not try hoary then you did not work with Ubuntu Release you went into the factory grabbed a few pieces and thought you had a software release 'Buzzzzzzz' Wrong
[03:13] <don824chan> can somone help me with wine?
[03:13] <bob2> caonex: no, you didn't do what I asked
[03:13] <bob2> caonex: find out what package ndiswrapper.ko is in in breezy
[03:14] <bdt1300> I have a question for yall... ok so i set my root password, but how do I sign in as root?
[03:14] <bob2> bdt1300: you can't login to gnome as root
[03:14] <bob2> for obvious reasons of sanity
[03:14] <don824chan> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[03:14] <holycow> ompaul, it frankly staggers the imagination
[03:14] <bob2> don824chan: you're using amd64?
[03:14] <don824chan> i don't know
[03:14] <bdt1300> so if i want to change something as root, ill just have to use sudo right?
[03:15] <bob2> caonex: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=ndiswrapper.ko&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=breezy&arch=i386 is what I meant
[03:15] <don824chan> lets pretend I am
[03:15] <bob2> bdt1300: indeed
[03:15] <maze> yeah .. hoary runs great (in 32bit) .. but I want gnome 2.12 ..foresight runs faster too
[03:15] <bob2> don824chan: you really don't know what CPU your computer has?
[03:15] <don824chan> its a POS
[03:15] <don824chan> its not my main computer
[03:15] <don824chan> Its a celeron
[03:15] <don824chan> I just remembered
[03:15] <bob2> caonex: and it shows that there is no need to compile it at all
[03:15] <bdt1300> eewww celeron
[03:15] <ompaul> don824chan, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:15] <don824chan> shutup
[03:15] <bob2> don824chan: then it's not amd64
[03:15] <don824chan> thanks
[03:15] <don824chan> I know
[03:16] <don824chan> i just remembered
[03:16] <bob2> don824chan: perhaps you didn't tell apt to use the universe repository
[03:16] <Madpilot> don824chan: wine is in the Universe repo
[03:16] <don824chan> ok...
[03:16] <don824chan> sudo apt-get install wine is what I said
[03:16] <caonex> bob2, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=ndiswrapper&searchon=sourcenames&subword=1&version=breezy&release=all
[03:16] <don824chan> whats the correct way to say that
[03:16] <Madpilot> !tell don824chan about repositories
[03:16] <bob2> !+universe
[03:16] <ubotu> ask me about !repositories
[03:16] <caonex> bob2, but how do i load it?
[03:17] <bob2> caonex: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:17] <don824chan> this is my second day on a linux OS
[03:17] <don824chan> so you're going to have to excuse me but what exactly is a repository
[03:18] <holycow> don824chan, no prob, welcome
[03:18] <Madpilot> don824chan: see the msg that ubotu sent you a minute ago
[03:18] <nfinitep1astik> is there a ubuntu ppc channel?
[03:18] <holycow> repo is a central storage of software
[03:18] <don824chan> i am checking it
[03:18] <bob2> nfinitep1astik: you're sitting in it
[03:18] <nfinitep1astik> ^^;;
[03:18] <nfinitep1astik> bob2: sankyuu bob
[03:18] <caonex> FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[03:18] <caonex> bob2, ^
[03:18] <Versed> I'm right now installing ubuntu on my older g4-450, seems it's going OK so far.
[03:19] <bob2> caonex: I don't think you showed me the output of the command I asked you to run yet
[03:19] <caonex> the find one?
[03:19] <war-totem> can anyone tell me how to tell apt-get to automatically get any dependencies?
[03:19] <caonex> bob2, the output of that command returns nothing
[03:19] <war-totem> this is killing me
[03:19] <Luder> Anyone have Cedega installed here?
[03:19] <bdt1300> Im sorry if im a bother but im fairly new to linux... how do I use the gnome bit torrent?
[03:20] <nfinitep1astik> Luder: what did you need?
[03:20] <dalamar> do you have to do something special in breezy to get mpeg/wmv playing support in xine for instance, I installed w32codecs and its no dice still?
[03:20] <caonex> bob2, let me show you in #flood what i get though when i do find / -name *ndiswrapper*
[03:20] <Luder> nfinitep1astik, I just finished installing it according to this guide ->
[03:20] <Luder> http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[03:21] <war-totem> can anyone tell me how to tell apt-get to automatically get any dependencies?
[03:21] <Luder> and I try running it, but it says cannot be found
[03:21] <xTina> war-totem: like in "not asking"?
[03:21] <war-totem> yea
[03:21] <juan_> ?
[03:21] <war-totem> just grab whatever it needs too
[03:21] <xTina> war-totem: -y
[03:21] <bdt1300> how bout i rephrase that... where can I find an faq describing how to use gnome bit torrent?
[03:21] <alejandro> hola
[03:21] <war-totem> ok
[03:21] <war-totem> ill try it
[03:21] <xTina> war-totem: manpages (man apt-get) will usually tell you such stuff!
[03:22] <alejandro> I a new ubuntu user
[03:22] <war-totem> ok its still not downloading them
[03:22] <ghostmango> hi, I accidently erased paritions ... is there way to restore them??
[03:22] <bdt1300> youch
[03:22] <war-totem> just says the foloowing packages have unmet dependencies
[03:22] <bob2> ghostmango: look at gpart
[03:22] <bob2> war-totem: that's not a a problem with apt
[03:22] <bob2> war-totem: it's a problem with how you configured it
[03:23] <war-totem> oh
[03:23] <bob2> war-totem: paste the full error and the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood
[03:23] <Luder> nfinitep1astik, does cedega install to a specific folder i have to be in
[03:23] <war-totem> ok
[03:23] <kailer> pardon me bob2?
[03:23] <don824chan> the linux community is nice
[03:23] <ghostmango> bob2: so i just need to get a hold of some live-cd with gpart and run it?
[03:23] <bob2> caonex: running find on / is not a very good idea
[03:23] <NeoFax> Has anyone been able to get iPodder to work on Ubuntu?
[03:23] <caonex> bob2, did you say something?
[03:23] <caonex> bob2, sorry
[03:24] <caonex> bob2, i am just desperate but i will not do it again
[03:24] <bob2> caonex: do you have any of the linux-image packages the page on packages.u.c mentioned?
[03:24] <kailer> bb2: the file i want to download is the divx4linux-dev correct?
[03:24] <kailer> bob2*
[03:24] <bob2> kailer: no idea what you're trying to do
[03:24] <jdermer> is there a way to upgrade hoary's firefox to the new 1.5 betas
[03:24] <bob2> war-totem: bah
[03:24] <caonex> yes i do, the ones suggested when you try to install the source right?
[03:24] <CookedGryphon> bob2 i always fun find on / n its done in seconds
[03:24] <mushtaq> hi i have mistakenly deleted my /usr/local/
[03:24] <mushtaq> how to get it back ?
[03:24] <bob2> war-totem: if you have to ask, you should not be installing packages from Debian on ubuntu
[03:24] <war-totem> i psted the error
[03:24] <kailer> tring to install divx codec from hoary extra site
[03:24] <mushtaq> i dont have the backup
[03:24] <fangorious> nalioth, my resolution problem was the monitor refresh rates. the hardware detection probed the right monitor type, but didn't fill in the refresh rates
[03:24] <war-totem> in #lood
[03:24] <bob2> caonex: wtf
[03:25] <caonex> bob2, hold on, i may not
[03:25] <bob2> caonex: ignore the sources
[03:25] <bob2> caonex: remove them
[03:25] <bob2> caonex: do not think about them
[03:25] <caonex> bob2, i do not think i am understanding you
[03:25] <bob2> caonex: so, I pointed you at a page on packages.ubuntu.com
[03:25] <bob2> caonex: read that page again
[03:26] <alejandro> sorry about, my english it's not very well
[03:26] <alejandro> can i use autocad on ubuntu?
[03:26] <bob2> alejandro: talk to the company that makes it
[03:27] <mushtaq> nalioth, hi i have deleted my /usr/local/ folder how to get it back is there a way ?
[03:27] <pc10> hello
[03:27] <mushtaq> is there are way to get it back ?
[03:27] <bob2> not really
[03:27] <caonex> bob2, ok i read it, you were saying i need those packages
[03:27] <CookedGryphon> i dunno y but in linux, its so satisfying to have files without 3 letter endings
[03:27] <glick> mushtaq, kiss it goodbye
[03:27] <bob2> caonex: where did I say that?
[03:27] <CookedGryphon> is that jstu me?
[03:27] <pc10> i have problem regarding the screen resolution
[03:27] <mushtaq> ok i did
[03:27] <bob2> caonex: I asked if you were using one of those kernels or not
[03:28] <mushtaq> takecare glick
[03:28] <pc10> how to change to 1024x768
[03:28] <Madpilot> CookedGryphon: it's cool, but some apps still like to see them - OpenOffice is the main offender, I've noticed...
[03:28] <CookedGryphon> pc10, what's the prob
[03:28] <bob2> caonex: if you're not using an ubuntu kernel, I'll be might annoyed I spent half an hour o nthis
[03:28] <Madpilot> !tell pc10 about fixres
[03:28] <CookedGryphon> Madpilot, yeah, and the GIMP
[03:28] <pc10> the screen resolution of my desktop
[03:28] <caonex> bob2, i am using an ubuntu kernel but i am using amd64 one
[03:28] <bob2> caonex: BAH
[03:28] <pc10> set 640x468
[03:28] <caonex> bob2, those do not seem amd64
[03:28] <bob2> caonex: do you have a 64-bit windows NDIS driver?
[03:29] <glick> there are rumers that windows vista may be free
[03:29] <caonex> bob2, yes
[03:29] <glick> as in beer
[03:29] <Madpilot> CookedGryphon: the GIMP doesn't seem to mind so much; it'll happily save stuff without a suffix, and re-open it later...
[03:29] <glick> anyone here about this?
[03:29] <bob2> caonex: then go build the driver yourself
[03:29] <caonex> bob2, the one everybody has been using
[03:29] <pc10> fixres?
[03:29] <alejandro> can i run win aplications ? over ubuntu?
[03:29] <bob2> glick: #goaway
[03:29] <caonex> bob2, but i need ndiswrapper
[03:29] <pc10> how can i do it
[03:29] <bob2> caonex: then compile it yourself
[03:29] <pc10> changing my scree resolution
[03:29] <Versed> Switzerland will give away free gold ingots before msft gives away Vista.
[03:29] <bob2> caonex: and, in future, when talking about binary-only crap like ndiswrapper, mention if you're not using i386
[03:29] <CookedGryphon> glick, only some random guy's ravings about how it would make sense, nothign solid
[03:29] <nfinitep1astik> Luder: still there? yeah, cedega emulates a windows directory to install things
[03:29] <glick> if they offer it free i wonder how that will hit linux
[03:29] <pc10> help to change my screen resolution
[03:30] <caonex> bob2, that is what i have been trying to you askk you,sorry for annoying you :(
[03:30] <bob2> caonex: you never once mentioned your architecture
[03:30] <caonex> bob2, i will bob2 i am really sorry
[03:30] <CookedGryphon> pc10, were u here b4 as pc2?
[03:30] <CookedGryphon> pc1 eve
[03:30] <CookedGryphon> even*
[03:30] <alejandro> where can i found this cddega?
[03:30] <MustangMatt> google
[03:31] <pc10> Madpilot, is it the fixres solve my screen resolution
[03:31] <Luder> nfinitep1astik, where is this directory at? i cannot find it after i finished installing it
[03:31] <pc10> how can i use it
[03:31] <caonex> bob2, i downloaded the source not from apt and i cannt compile it
[03:31] <caonex> bob2, gives me an error
[03:31] <kailer> bob2: after installing the divx4linux-dev package what should i do next toplay dvix on Kaffeine?
[03:31] <caonex> bob2, that is when i tried using apt
[03:31] <Madpilot> pc10: please see the msg that ubotu should have sent you a few minutes ago, with a URL in it
[03:32] <bob2> caonex: come on dude
[03:32] <bob2> use some common sense
[03:32] <bob2> "gives me an error"
[03:32] <sono> Excuse me guys, anyone knows if there is it is normal to have extremely long loading times for Open Office 2 @ Breezy AMD64? (I know, it is an unstable release, I just want to know if there is a workaround for the meantime)
[03:32] <bob2> no one but you can see your screen
[03:32] <bob2> you need to paste it to #flood
[03:32] <nfinitep1astik> Luder: it should be on your home or root directory
[03:32] <bob2> kailer: #kubuntu
[03:32] <don824chan> bob2: be nice
[03:32] <sono> s/there/ss
[03:32] <Luder> nfinitep1astik, thats what I figured, but it's not there, perhaps it didn't install correctly?
[03:33] <CookedGryphon> bob2, maybe u should go n have a sit down, rue getting very worked up
[03:33] <kailer> that the channel i should goto toask?
[03:33] <bob2> don824chan: kthxbye
[03:33] <sono> s/if there is//
[03:33] <don824chan> lol
[03:33] <don824chan> hope you got 10bux
[03:34] <don824chan> i think my internet broke
[03:34] <haja> I am trying to play the RTS game Boson and I am getting an error that says "error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so cannot open shared object file. no such file or directory... anyone?
[03:34] <caonex> bob2, ok bob i will paste it right now....
[03:34] <sono> Excuse me guys, anyone knows if it is normal to have extremely long loading times for Open Office 2 @ Breezy AMD64? (I know, it is an unstable release, I just want to know if there is a workaround for the meantime) [hehe now it is correctly written]
[03:34] <don824chan> nevermind