[01:42] <huy> rails
[01:42] <flaccid> ruby on rails?
[01:42] <flaccid> is that with apache
[01:42] <huy> yep
[01:43] <huy> with apache or lighthtpd
[01:43] <flaccid> particular package you prefer?
[01:43] <huy> apache2
[01:43] <huy> mod_fcgi
[01:44] <flaccid> is that mod what ruby provides?
[01:44] <huy> with mysql backend
[01:44] <huy> yep
[01:44] <huy> we're talking about $us? or au$
[01:44] <flaccid> au
[01:44] <huy> 5 bucks a monh is not bad
[01:45] <flaccid> its us hosting
[01:45] <huy> how much bandwdth?
[01:45] <flaccid> pm
[01:45] <huy> lol i can't i ssh my home box
[01:45] <huy> and irc through there
[01:45] <huy> i dont know how to use cli irc hehehe
[01:46] <flaccid> bitchx
[01:46] <p0w4h> hello im doing: apt-get install build-essential.  it keeps asking to put the kubuntu cd into my drive but i don't have it.
[01:46] <huy> well my email is<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[01:46] <huy> send me your info and details
[01:46] <flaccid> p0w4h: change your /etc/apt/sources.lst
[01:46] <flaccid> huy: pm
[01:46] <p0w4h> ok thanks
[01:47] <huy> flaccid: i can't buddy, im using a command line irc
[01:47] <huy> i cant have multiple windows
[01:48] <flaccid> ok
[01:48] <huy> what are you studying in hobart?
[01:48] <flaccid> computing
[01:49] <huy> why did you go all the way to hobart?
[01:49] <daurnimator> tasmania sucks
[01:49] <flaccid> need a change
[01:49] <huy> uts, usyd have them
[01:49] <flaccid> and you can't do a course like this in brisbane or sydney
[01:49] <huy> what kind of course? game?
[01:49] <flaccid> nah straight computing
[01:49] <huy> what do you mean straight computing
[01:50] <flaccid> software engineering major and stuff
[01:50] <flaccid> only open source/FOSS
[01:50] <huy> you can do that at uts
[01:50] <flaccid> cept java
[01:50] <huy> i did mine at uts
[01:50] <flaccid> didnt like some of the units
[01:50] <huy> oss is up to you
[01:50] <huy> they teach you the theory
[01:50] <huy> not the tools
[01:51] <flaccid> yes
[01:51] <hyper> does kubuntu install by default a firewall?
[01:51] <huy> do you know of any game dev channel ?
[01:51] <flaccid> but you use an implementation as an example
[01:52] <flaccid> nope
[01:52] <huy> hyper: no
[01:52] <flaccid> huy can you chat to me in #huy
[01:52] <hyper> huy: thx... but now that is strange :(
[01:52] <huy> hyper: you can install it, follow the ubuntuguide
[01:53] <hyper> huy: I'm trying to get the webcam through amsn to work
[01:53] <hyper> huy: it says either I'm firewalled or behind a router... well I'm behind a router but I do forward the ports....
[01:53] <benkong2> Can a normal user issue a shutdown command? When I want to shutdown all I get is suspend | hibernate|logoff and then I gop back to the login screen and have to choose Alt-S. I want to be able to choose shutdown from the normal menu.
[01:53] <benkong2> Is this possible ^^
[01:53] <huy> did you forward to port from your router to your computer?
[01:54] <hyper> huy: yes I did... 6890-690 tcp and udp
[01:55] <hyper> I meant -6900 ^^
[01:55] <huy> hmmm that is odd
[01:55] <huy> can ubuntu detect your webcam?
[01:55] <huy> or kubuntu
[01:56] <hyper> huy: in ekiga the webcam works
[01:56] <hyper> huy: in amsn I get it displayed but can't "configure" it
[01:57] <huy> ah then its amsn
[01:57] <hyper> huy: hmmm.... thx
[01:59] <hyper> huy: I guess that message appears always if you are behind a router
[02:00] <hyper> huy: I just tested it with a friend and she can see me :) thx for the hel
[02:01] <huy> hyper: no problem, just don't strip
[02:01] <benkong2> anyone tried NetworkManager in edgy? Is it working?
[02:02] <benkong2> !NetworkManager
[02:02] <ubotu> networkmanager is an application to make (wireless) networking Just Work. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/NetworkManager
[02:02] <dragonfire1> gm
[02:03] <hyper> huy: one more question: do you know where I can change the sound input? so that I can use the webcam mic?
[02:05] <hyper> actually, does amsn support voice?... hmmm, I guess I have to go for Skype
[02:15] <huy> exit
[02:16] <[renbolicious] > wow
[02:18] <[renbolicious] > !mp3
[02:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:22] <mafu> Does anyone by chance know the difference between tetex3 and Livetex2005? I want to use Kile, which depends on tetex3, and I have been using livetex until now, but the two systems seem to conflict, so I have to choose. Any help? :)
[02:27] <grothesk> Hi!
[02:27] <Arlington> hi all!
[02:27] <grothesk> How do I enable configurartion for a Logitech Dual Optical in kcontrol.
[02:27] <grothesk> It keeps saying me, that there might be a rights problem.
[02:29] <benkong2> why does apt want to uninstall f-spot openoffice.org and many many more packeges stating that they are nolonger required?
[02:35] <Arlington> in windows Ctr-Alt-2 makes @ but in kubuntu i must press Alt Gr. is it possible to fix this
[02:36] <Arlington> is there anyone who can hel with ^^^
[02:37] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[02:40] <rampage>  i cant open adept
[02:40] <rampage>  plz help
[02:40] <Arlington> what does it say?
[02:40] <rampage>  it saying su returned with error
[02:40] <Arlington> !adept
[02:40] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[02:42] <rampage>  well i cant open it n nothin written on how to to solve these
[02:43] <Arlington> have you tried the kubuntu forums? searching for that exact error message?
[02:43] <rampage> nope
[02:43] <rampage> link ?
[02:43] <Arlington> www.kubuntu.com there is a forum link at the top
[02:44] <Arlington> rampage: http://kubuntuforums.net/
[02:44] <Arlington> rampage: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?action=search
[02:44] <rampage> k
[02:47] <qkr> I installed kubuntu and now I am trying to compile a C program with gcc and it doesn't find the stdio.h header file.
[02:48] <qkr> can anyone help?
[02:48] <Arlington> qkr: sorry
[02:48] <Arlington> rampage: did you find anything?
[02:50] <[renbolicious] > !ati
[02:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:51] <qkr> no-one can help me?
[02:54] <[renbolicious] > !ati
[02:54] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:57] <koboi> hello
[02:57] <koboi> c est quoi la derniere version de amsn ??
[02:57] <dinosaur-rus> qkr: I hope you wrote "#include <stdio.h>", not "#include "stdio.h""
[02:58] <dinosaur-rus> koboi: please speak English
[02:58] <koboi> #kubuntu_fr
[02:59] <koboi> c est quoi deja le lien ?
[03:01] <dinosaur-rus> koboi: this is #kubuntu, here we speak English
[03:01] <dinosaur-rus> not French
[03:01] <Arlington> anyone know when the folder /etc/hotplug/usb/ appears or why i don't have it?
[03:02] <octan> can anyone explain to me what a syn flood is?
[03:04] <dinosaur-rus> octan: it's when some host sends lots of SYN (connection establishment) packets to screw its victim
[03:05] <octan> dinosaur-rus, what harm can it do?
[03:06] <Dink> Anyone know how to show "text" during the usplash on edgy vs just a bar ??
[03:06] <dinosaur-rus> octan: primarily slowdown due to huge number of packets that must be processed
[03:06] <rampage>  well at last i have fixed it
[03:06] <rampage>  if some one cant open adept can msg me
[03:06] <Arlington> rampage:  how did you solve it?
[03:06] <Arlington> did the forum help?
[03:07] <rampage>  by editing /etc/sudoer
[03:07] <octan> dinosaur-rus, alright,, but does it need to be a syn flag that send? cant it be a ack flag also?
[03:07] <dinosaur-rus> rampage: add it to the forum so anyone who needs it can find
[03:07] <rampage> ok
[03:07] <raven79> hi all
[03:07] <octan> tcp flages
[03:08] <Arlington> can some one explain to me about /etc/usb/hotplug
[03:08] <Arlington> !hotplug
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hotplug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <octan> !coldplug
[03:08] <octan> :P
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about coldplug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <Arlington> octan:  :-D
[03:09] <dinosaur-rus> octan: dunno, but AFAIK usually SYN-flood is done via raw sockets to get more control (fake sender's IP, ignore other packets)
[03:09] <dinosaur-rus> !coolplug
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about coolplug - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:09] <dinosaur-rus> heh
[03:09] <octan> yea.. but there are tcp flags,, such as syn ack fin rst so  on
[03:10] <flaccid> locate hyu@
[03:10] <flaccid> oops
[03:10] <raven79> someone could help me to add some repository to my repo lists
[03:11] <[renbolicious] > !quake
[03:11] <ubotu> Quake runs natively under linux see http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ for details
[03:11] <[renbolicious] > nah
[03:11] <octan> !doom3
[03:11] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php
[03:11] <[renbolicious] > what do i do with 64bit
[03:11] <[renbolicious] > doenst want to run  the 32bit installer
[03:12] <octan> what you mean
[03:12] <octan> ahh
[03:12] <[renbolicious] > glibc
[03:12] <[renbolicious] > 2.0
[03:12] <[renbolicious] > not supportet
[03:12] <[renbolicious] > This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / unknown
[03:12] <[renbolicious] > (tried to run setup)
[03:12] <octan> i know :P
[03:12] <[renbolicious] > :(
[03:12] <octan> read thiis
[03:12] <octan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[03:12] <octan> then you have it working
[03:13] <[renbolicious] > ok
[03:13] <[renbolicious] > thx
[03:13] <octan> np
[03:13] <main2> anyone here using tightvncserver?
[03:13] <main2> im able to connect to my tightvncserver, but the kde wm doesnt startup :/
[03:13] <octan> heh i tould you to use ssh -X :P last night.
[03:14] <octan> you can start up an entire X with ssh
[03:14] <main2> solved.. the problem
[03:14] <main2> octan: an entire x, a kde desktop as well?
[03:14] <soulrider> hyello
[03:14] <octan> yes
[03:14] <main2> (krfb, kept on crashing so i left it..)
[03:14] <Arlington> octan:  do you by any change know anything about usb and hotplug?
[03:15] <octan> Arlington, not much.. sorry
[03:15] <main2> octan: could you tell me a bit more about this?
[03:15] <soulrider> does anyone know where i can get the dapper an the edgy knot 2 color schemes? or how i can export them form a machine that has them ?
[03:15] <octan> main2, thers alot of howtos on google
[03:15] <Arlington> anything? i motsly wonder why i don't have the directory
[03:16] <dinosaur-rus> octan: do you want to say Kubuntu doesn't have 32-bit apps support out-of-the-box?
[03:16] <octan> dinosaur-rus, ?
[03:16] <raven79> sorry some could, please tell me where i can add repositories? ...should be a web site where user can choose their repositories...
[03:16] <rampage>  well here is the link http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=9506.0
[03:16] <rampage> ^_^
[03:17] <raven79> thanks
[03:17] <octan> dinosaur-rus, some app are in 32 bits like flash,, and they dont work on 64 bit so you need to run them in 32 bit inside the 64 bit system
[03:17] <raven79> rampage: where i must add it?
[03:17] <dinosaur-rus> octan: I mean does freshly installed Kubuntu allow working with 32-bit apps?
[03:17] <Arlington> rampage dosn't that mean that you've made all your users to roots?
[03:17] <Arlington> that wouldn't be good.
[03:17] <rampage> nope
[03:17] <Arlington> okay.
[03:17] <rampage> only the u ser u want
[03:17] <dinosaur-rus> octan: what about regular apps like web-browsers, etc?
[03:18] <Arlington> i'am just a newbie ;-D
[03:18] <rampage> u can also disable root acess
[03:18] <Arlington> okay nice :-D
[03:18] <octan> dinosaur-rus, you can use etc firefox in 64 bit,, but without flash
[03:18] <Arlington> do you know anything about hotplug an usb?
[03:18] <octan> flash is a closed code
[03:18] <octan> and they only support 32 atm
[03:18] <host-one> ciao
[03:19] <rampage> nah ^_^
[03:19] <soulrider> Arlington: what do you mean with hotplug an usb?
[03:19] <dinosaur-rus> octan: so 64-bit Kubuntu can't run 32-bit apps without some magic dances? :P
[03:20] <Arlington> soulrider: my logitech mouse can't send it's info to xserver because of some conflict and to solve this i need to add a script to the folder /etc/usb/hotplug. all according to kubuntu help. but i don't have the folder
[03:20] <octan> dinosaur-rus read the link i pased its the magic ,,
[03:20] <Arlington> i meant KDE where i wrote xserver
[03:21] <octan> main2, http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/XoverSSH/X-over-SSH2.html
[03:22] <main2> thanks octan :-))
[03:22] <Arlington> soulrider:  etc/hotplug/usb
[03:22] <octan> main2, np
[03:23] <soulrider> err, no idea Arlington, sorry
[03:23] <Arlington> too bad.
[03:23] <Arlington> do you have that folder? (just curious)
[03:24] <dinosaur-rus> octan: ohh, it seems I need voodoo magic to be able to run 32-bit apps like Opera
[03:25] <DHGE> Arlington: there is a script and a config-file for my logi-mouse in there
[03:26] <octan> dinosaur-rus, are you considering installing 64?
[03:26] <octan> im using it,, :)
[03:26] <Arlington> yeah that's what i wanna have too. but the directory dosn't even exist on my box...
[03:26] <octan> and have both java and flash working, thou running in 32 bit, instead of exec firefox i do firefox32
[03:27] <Arlington> DHGE:  yeah that's what i wanna have too. but the directory dosn't even exist on my box...
[03:27] <DHGE> Arlington: boot with a live Kubuntu (if you have ...) and copy the files from there
[03:28] <Arlington> but i've installed from a livekubuntu...
[03:29] <dinosaur-rus> octan: I'm gonna install Kubuntu 6.10 for x64, but I use Opera which doesn't have 64-bit version
[03:30] <rampage> software installed by adept is default installed on  /usr/local
[03:30] <rampage> ???
[03:30] <cox377> I'm looking to get a wifi dongle, does anyone have any recommendtions for one that would work right out of the box under kubuntu?
[03:31] <octan> dinosaur-rus how many app do you use that is in only 32 bit?
[03:31] <dinosaur-rus> octan: two apps
[03:31] <octan> dinosaur-rus, let me guess opera and flash ?
[03:31] <dinosaur-rus> octan: ah, 2 apps and flash
[03:32] <octan> right, and you only do that step once for each app.. and when you want to run then use appname32 instead of appname simple as that
[03:32] <dinosaur-rus> octan: damn, 3 apps and flash
[03:32] <octan> dinosaur-rus, what apps?
[03:33] <dinosaur-rus> octan: Opera, Flash, Avast! Antivirus (I don't have working Internet under Windows, so...), Adobe Reader
[03:33] <Arlington> cox377:  my d-link works very nice
[03:34] <octan> dinosaur-rus, since you only have thouse few apps running in only 32 you should defantly install 64 bit
[03:35] <giles> hey yall
[03:35] <octan> dinosaur-rus, and once ther ported to 64 bit on delete the 32 bit version :)'
[03:36] <dinosaur-rus> octan: yeah, but I thought/hoped there'll be less promlems with 32-bit apps... Windows is much better in this way (don't hurt me for these words)...
[03:37] <giles> I was wondering, Ubuntu has its package manager "Synaptic", whats the Kubuntu equivlent?
[03:37] <buz> adept
[03:37] <octan> dinosaur-rus, ? you got a 64 bit version of windows ?
[03:37] <dinosaur-rus> octan: yes
[03:37] <octan> yuuwe
[03:38] <giles> but Synaptec allows you to download anything and search, while Adept only lets you update core files
[03:38] <cox377> Arlington: Hello again, did it work straight in?? no need for ndiswrapper in other words?
[03:38] <octan> dinosaur-rus, i dont see the problem.. i have one synaptic32 for 32 bits app and one synaptic for 64 bit apps
[03:41] <Arlington> no just had to tell it the wep password and it was good to go.
[03:41] <cox377> Arlington: really?? sounds goood.. do u have a model No.?
[03:42] <Arlington> yeah hold on.
[03:42] <cox377> Arlington: cheers
[03:42] <dinosaur-rus> octan: I meant 64-bit Windows doesn't need ANY special manipulations for installing and running 32-bit applications at all! that thing is completely transparent to the user
[03:42] <estasy90> vedrai che ci capisco molto..
[03:43] <Arlington> Swl-G122 version B1 Firmware ver 2.03
[03:43] <octan> dinosaur-rus, this is linux,., it require some loving and care :p so you have to do it your self :P
[03:44] <dinosaur-rus> octan: :)
[03:44] <Arlington> cox377: make that dwl ---->
[03:46] <dinosaur-rus> oh, is Kubuntu kernel HIMEM-enabled? the question is stupid for 64-bit system, but I'd want to precaution :P
[03:46] <Arlington> cox377:  i don't know if it's availible in all countries tjough...
[03:49] <cox377> Arlington: cheers for that, which country did u buy it in?
[03:50] <Arlington> i'am a swede :-D
[03:50] <dinosaur-rus> octan: hmm... the last post in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=187542 says that 6.06 doesn't need chroot for 32-bit apps... I'm confused :S
[03:53] <Arlington> cox377:  hope it works fine for you too. not all that expensive either right?
[03:55] <cox377> Arlington: nah shouldnt be
[03:55] <octan> dinosaur-rus, well i would like to know how he does that
[03:56] <rampage>  amarok wont play mp3s help
[03:56] <Arlington> cox377: good luck then
[03:56] <MistaED> dinosaur-rus: afaik, the biggest problems now is that apt needs to force-install i386 stuff on amd64, and of course 32-bit plugins don't work under 64-bit firefox without installing the 32-bit firefox manually
[03:56] <Arlington> rampage: you need to download codecs.
[03:56] <rampage>  from where ??
[03:56] <Arlington> rampage: do it through adept.
[03:56] <rampage>  links ??
[03:57] <MistaED> but there's no need for a chroot afaik
[03:57] <rampage>  wanna install it offline
[03:57] <Arlington> rampage: impossible i think... :-(
[03:57] <rampage>  where installed files by apt is stored ??
[03:58] <Arlington> rampage: they arn't stored i believe just installed....
[03:58] <Arlington> !repositories
[03:58] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:58] <rampage>  temp stored some where ?
[03:59] <rampage>  apt-get amarok say already new version installed
[03:59] <dinosaur-rus> octan: I found info that 6.06+ doesn't need chroot in all rather new threads
[04:00] <octan> i see hes using lib32
[04:00] <rampage>  ??
[04:00] <Arlington> rampage: it's not amaraok you wan't to update
[04:00] <rampage>  then ?
[04:00] <octan> dinosaur-rus, then better for you :P now goahead an install :P
[04:01] <dinosaur-rus> octan: yeah, but at first I need to backup all important data :)
[04:01] <rampage>  tell me the format of apt-get install ...???
[04:01] <Arlington> rampage: stop ?? and then?? i'am working on your asnwer.
[04:02] <rampage>  ok]
[04:03] <Arlington> apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[04:03] <rampage> ok
[04:03] <Arlington> rampage: btw it's in multiverse...
[04:03] <rampage> hm
[04:03] <mini_gamer1896> arlington: shouldn't it be sudo...
[04:04] <mini_gamer1896> ?
[04:04] <Arlington> mini_gamer1896: sure it would be bu he asked for the apt get format
[04:04] <Arlington> mini_gamer1896: *but
[04:04] <mini_gamer1896> oh, sry
[04:04] <rampage>
[04:04] <rampage> Package libxine-extracodecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:04] <rampage> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:04] <rampage> is only available from another source
[04:04] <rampage> E: Package libxine-extracodecs has no installation candidate
[04:04] <hyper> hiya, I have problems with pairing my headset... I always get  "Pairing not allowed"
[04:04] <hyper> Hi abattoir :)
[04:05] <Arlington> rampage:  you must enable multiverse,,,
[04:05] <rampage> not working
[04:05] <rampage> how to enable ??
[04:05] <Arlington> through adept
[04:05] <Arlington> open adept
[04:06] <Arlington> rampage: then manage repositories
[04:06] <rampage> k
[04:07] <rampage> then
[04:07] <abattoir> hi hyper :)
[04:07] <abattoir> hyper: got edgy installed? ;)
[04:07] <hyper> abattoir: webcam in amsn runs fine... however I can't pair my headset
[04:07] <Arlington> rampage: then the line that starts with deb http://se.archive.ubuntu.com in the field that says components press there and enter multiverse
[04:07] <hyper> abattoir: haven't updated to kde4 ^^
[04:08] <abattoir> hyper: in edgy?
[04:08] <abattoir> hyper: i mean the pairing issue
[04:08] <Arlington> rampage: did you follow?
[04:08] <hyper> abattoir: yes, it's in edgy
[04:08] <rampage> man
[04:09] <abattoir> hyper: bt in edgy has some issues
[04:09] <rampage> i am not gettin http://se.archive.ubuntu.com/
[04:09] <hyper> abattoir: oh.... :(
[04:09] <hyper> abattoir: I get the webcam to run in edgy.... but not the headset :(
[04:09] <abattoir> hyper: try sudo hciconfig hci piscan
[04:09] <Arlington> okay what line do you have then?
[04:09] <abattoir> hyper: after that see if it pairs
[04:10] <Arlington> rampage: *lines
[04:10] <rampage> i am gettin deb http://us.archeive ......
[04:10] <abattoir> hyper: if it doesn't, you might need to compile bluez-utils manually
[04:10] <Arlington> well then add multiverse there....
[04:11] <Arlington> rampage:  or what does it say further down taht line?
[04:11] <dinosaur-rus> damn how can I get directory size?
[04:11] <rampage>  all deb line startin with http://us. ???
[04:12] <Arlington> rampage: what distro are you on?
[04:12] <emonkey> rampage, no there can be some they start with ftp://
[04:12] <rampage> kubuntu
[04:12] <Arlington> wich build?
[04:13] <rampage> 6.06
[04:13] <rampage> drapper drake
[04:13] <Arlington> rampage. in the field  far to the right of the window. called components.
[04:13] <rampage> y
[04:13] <hyper> abattoir: well, still no luck :(
[04:14] <abattoir> hyper: any errors?
[04:14] <hyper> it just won't let me pair
[04:14] <Arlington> rampage: what do you have any one that says universe or multiverse?
[04:14] <rampage> yup it say
[04:14] <Arlington> what does it say?
[04:14] <Arlington> universe right?
[04:14] <hyper> Oct  2 16:12:52 localhost hcid[5635] : link_key_request (sba=00:0E:A1:33:70:FA, dba=00:0D:44:3B:7D:B9)
[04:14] <hyper> Oct  2 16:12:52 localhost hcid[5635] : pin_code_request (sba=00:0E:A1:33:70:FA, dba=00:0D:44:3B:7D:B9)
[04:14] <hyper> Oct  2 16:12:52 localhost hcid[5635] : call_passkey_agent(): no agent registered
[04:14] <rampage>  main reistricted universe and multiverse
[04:15] <wimpies> How can I connect to my mysql db using openoffice database ?
[04:15] <hyper> abattoir: I never got a box or request for the key
[04:15] <wimpies> I tried with odbc and with jdbc but both fail
[04:15] <Arlington> we do you have one that's syas only universe?
[04:15] <Arlington> *says
[04:15] <rampage>  yup
[04:15] <abattoir> hyper: ok, you need to make some minor tweaks
[04:15] <rampage>  4 says likr that
[04:15] <Arlington> is it greyed or black?
[04:15] <rampage>  universe
[04:15] <abattoir> hyper: you should change the pin_helper in /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf to /usr/lib/kbluepin
[04:16] <rampage>  grey
[04:16] <hyper> abattoir: I googled and tried everything I found... but no luck
[04:16] <abattoir> hyper: and i think you'd need to compile bluez-utils
[04:16] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all, my laptop reboots instead of shutting down if i click on kmenu -> logout -> shutdown
[04:16] <MetaMorfoziS> why?
[04:16] <MetaMorfoziS> please help me.
[04:16] <Arlington> then press it and then press the button in the middle called confirm(?)
[04:16] <hyper> abattoir: I have this -->           pin_helper /usr/lib/kdebluetooth/kbluepin;
[04:16] <v3ctor> wimpies: http://www.unixodbc.org/doc/OOoMySQL.pdf#search=%22connect%20openoffice%20mysql%20%22
[04:16] <hyper> abattoir: that's where the proggy is
[04:16] <Arlington> sorry just right click the field and choose enable.
[04:17] <abattoir> hyper: hmm, that's surprising, must have been fixed... see if that file actually exists
[04:17] <Arlington> rampage: can we take this through pm?
[04:17] <abattoir> hyper: also check if you have /usr/bin/pin-wrapper(or any other variation of that)
[04:19] <hyper> abattoir:
[04:19] <hyper> hyper@hyper-kubuntu:/usr/lib/kdebluetooth$ locate kbluepin
[04:19] <hyper> /usr/lib/kdebluetooth/kbluepin
[04:19] <riri> hi
[04:19] <riri> i just update
[04:20] <abattoir> hyper: ok, the pinwrapper?
[04:20] <riri> kubuntu edgy beta
[04:20] <riri> and now neither adept nor apt-get works : segmentation error ?
[04:20] <hyper> abattoir: no pin-wrapper
[04:20] <riri> is there a way to correct this ?
[04:20] <j2daosh> how do i get music to play through freenx?
[04:20] <Arlington> rampage: did it work
[04:20] <abattoir> hyper: any other variations of pin* ?
[04:21] <hyper> abattoir: just pinky in that folder
[04:21] <j2daosh> anyone know how?
[04:21] <hyper> hyper@hyper-kubuntu:/usr/bin$ ls pin*
[04:21] <hyper> pinky
[04:21] <abattoir> hyper: they you'd have to download the sources for bluez-utils, modify the Makefile and compile it
[04:21] <hyper> abattoir: never modified a Makefile ^^
[04:21] <rampage> nope
[04:22] <hyper> abattoir: gonna be my first time... :)
[04:22] <abattoir> hyper: there's always a first to everything ;)
[04:23] <wimpies> v3ctor : thx it works ;)
[04:23] <hyper> abattoir: just bluez-utils? or the other packages also?
[04:23] <abattoir> hyper: bluez-utils should be fine
[04:23] <abattoir> hyper: run configure, and then ping me
[04:23] <abattoir> brb
[04:23] <v3ctor> wimpies: np
[04:24] <hyper> abattoir:  checking for BLUEZ... configure: error: Bluetooth library is required
[04:25] <abattoir> hyper: ok, then get bluez-lib too :(
[04:25] <hyper> ^^
[04:25] <intelikey> you know how if you access/open a tty then you can switch to it even if it's no longer active  (any console users here?)  does anyone know what it is in the startup process that might be accessing tty 5 & 6 ?     my [alt] +[left-arrow]  should go from tty1 to tty4 (i modified inittab) but there are two blank ttys between them. 5 and 6 which should not have been opened by anything that i can think of.   any thoughts ?
[04:27] <hyper> abattoir: configure run fine.... make also.... for makeinstall do I need to do that as sudo?
[04:27] <abattoir> hyper: no, wait a sec
[04:27] <mini_gamer1896> ok, i'm using 6.06, have kde, gnome, and xfce installed, and have a problem with xfce showing the toolbars when translucency is setup anywhere in kde; any suggestions?  Have asked in #xubuntu but am getting no answer after ~10min
[04:27] <hyper> abattoir: well, I'm still at the bluez-libs
[04:27] <Pensa`MIA> my grub menu is loaded with older kernels, can I just remove the older kernels from the adept package manager?
[04:27] <abattoir> hyper: oh, run make install too on it then
[04:28] <hyper> abattoir: as sudo right?
[04:28] <abattoir> hyper: its bluez-utils that we need to modify
[04:28] <abattoir> hyper: yup
[04:28] <intelikey> hyper yes as root
[04:29] <hyper> abattoir: now configure in the utils I get this:    checking for DBUS... configure: error: dbus > 0.35 is required
[04:31] <hyper> test
[04:31] <hyper> :)
[04:32] <hyper> abattoir: now configure in the utils I get this:    checking for DBUS... configure: error: dbus > 0.35 is required
[04:32] <wimpies> How can I edit records from a Database table from OpenOffice Database (V3ctor ?)
[04:33] <raveesh> can anyone help me?
[04:33] <abattoir> hyper: you should have that installed... else install it 'sudo apt-get install dbus'
[04:33] <raveesh> amaroK not bing updated
[04:34] <intelikey> mini_gamer1896 i'll answer you, although i don't know anything about your particular issue.  this kde that ub 6.6 is using is screwy from the word go.  it writes to and reads from  /root  even though you may never run sudo/kdesu... that should not happen!   and no telling what else is (hosed) in it.  i suspect that kde is writing to a dir that xfce is looking in for config info.
[04:34] <dinosaur-rus> lol before cleaning my home directory up I had 5.1GB used and 3.8GB free, now I have 3.8GB used and 5.1GB free
[04:35] <hyper> abattoir: it's the newest version (dbus is already the newest version.)
[04:35] <intelikey> dinosaur-rus 3.8G is a lot for just the installed system.  you must have some added data files (mp3 ogg or something)
[04:36] <raveesh> anyone? kindly reply
[04:36] <abattoir> hyper: i wonder why you get that error message then
[04:36] <hyper> how to find out what version it is?
[04:36] <hyper> dbus -v?
[04:36] <abattoir> hyper: was there any dbus related package on the bluez site?
[04:36] <mini_gamer1896> intelikey: k, was suspecting the same myself, thanks
[04:36] <abattoir> hyper: apt-cache show dbus
[04:37] <dinosaur-rus> intelikey: I have entire Linux (including home directory) on one partition, and this is my current Linux, I haven't installed Kubuntu yet
[04:37] <hyper> abattoir:  Version: 0.93-0ubuntu2
[04:37] <hyper> abattoir: just bluez- libs / utils / firmware / hcidump / gnome
[04:38] <intelikey> mini_gamer1896 a way to test that would be add a user account that never starts kde.  you can test xfce in that account and set everything the same as in the account that does use kde  then compare the home dirs.
[04:39] <mini_gamer1896> intlikey: k
[04:39] <abattoir> hyper: weird, i don't understand why it complains
[04:41] <intelikey> mini_gamer1896 also if you are using kdm as your graphic login manager  it may affect that test.   maybe use startx for that account.
[04:41] <hyper> abattoir: well, I don't understand either :(
[04:41] <hyper> oh well
[04:41] <abattoir> hyper: pastebin the exact error msg
[04:41] <intelikey> ldconfig
[04:41] <abattoir> hyper: along w/ the entire configure run(if possible)
[04:41] <intelikey> hyper run  ldconfig    it can't hurt anything.
[04:42] <intelikey> as root ^
[04:42] <mini_gamer1896> intelikey, am using the xfce default logon
[04:43] <intelikey> mini_gamer1896 k  it seems same enough.
[04:43] <mini_gamer1896> sry, am having to wait for a download to start the test
[04:43] <intelikey> i've not noticed any problem with xdm
[04:45] <nomadsoul> hi
[04:46] <intelikey> nomadsoul
[04:46] <nomadsoul> does anybody know if i can have kubuntu in italian?
[04:46] <nomadsoul> i have dummy users here
[04:46] <hyper> abattoir / intelikey:   http://www.phpfi.com/159455
[04:46] <nomadsoul> and have to use kde in italian :P
[04:46] <High|ander> are there any specific channel for edgy?
[04:46] <hyper> what does ldconfig do?
[04:46] <nomadsoul> (this is my first time with kubuntu)
[04:47] <dinosaur-rus> hyper: it updates you libs loading cache
[04:47] <intelikey> nomadsoul sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales   should allow you to set the default lang
[04:47] <abattoir> hyper: try installing libdbus1-dev
[04:47] <dinosaur-rus> hyper: "man ldconfig" will say you more
[04:48] <hyper> abattoir: v
[04:48] <hyper> E: Couldn't find package libdbus1-dev
[04:49] <hyper> dinosaur-rus : thx
[04:49] <intelikey> hyper newer linux distros are pretty automated now.  but we used to have to manually run ldconfig when new librarries were installed so the compiler could find them.   just thounght it wouldn't hurt to give it a whack.
[04:49] <abattoir> !info libdubs-1-dev
[04:49] <ubotu> Package libdubs-1-dev does not exist in any distro I know
[04:49] <abattoir> !info libdbus-1-dev
[04:49] <ubotu> libdbus-1-dev: simple interprocess messaging system (development headers). In component main, is optional. Version 0.60-6ubuntu8 (dapper), package size 289 kB, installed size 748 kB
[04:49] <Arlington> i'am looking for a mac styled program launcher...
[04:49] <intelikey> back in the day.  as they speek
[04:49] <abattoir> hyper: ^^^ i missed a -
[04:50] <Arlington> where can i find it? if i could?
[04:50] <hyper> abattoir: trying now :)
[04:50] <abattoir> Arlington: a docker?
[04:50] <abattoir> !info kxdocker
[04:50] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.39-0ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 253 kB, installed size 832 kB
[04:50] <abattoir> Arlington: ^^^^
[04:50] <Arlington> thanx :-)
[04:50] <abattoir> hyper: does it also install libdbus-1-2 ?
[04:50] <hyper> abattoir: now configure run fine
[04:51] <hyper> abattoir: did only install libdbus-1
[04:51] <abattoir> ok, goo
[04:51] <abattoir> *good
[04:51] <intelikey> goo goo  ?
[04:51] <hyper> abattoir: wow... thx so far :) I owe you a six-pack :)
[04:51] <abattoir> hyper: don't smoke ;)
[04:52] <hyper> abattoir: now you said modify the makefile?
[04:53] <abattoir> hyper: one sec, go to hcid subdir
[04:53] <abattoir> Makefile.in there
[04:54] <abattoir> hyper: wait wait wait
[04:54] <intelikey> dinosaur-rus hehhe i back my system up....   i have never yet broken my data; but, the system is another story.  :)
[04:54] <hyper> abattoir: yes, Makefil.in is in the subdir hcid
[04:55] <Agiofws> my freind wants to play mp3's on his fresh kubuntu can anyone help ?
[04:56] <hyper> Agiofws: well, install a driver.. I recommend amarok
[04:56] <abattoir> hyper: Makefile, rather than Makefile.in
[04:56] <hyper> ups, not a driver, a proggy
[04:56] <MHazem> ups ?
[04:56] <Agiofws> amrok  is not  a driver
[04:56] <abattoir> hyper: look for noinst_PROGRAMS = passkey-agent$(EXEEXT)
[04:56] <dinosaur-rus> intelkey: I'm preparing my Linux partition for formatting and installing Kubuntu, so I must back up my data
[04:56] <Agiofws> ok ..
[04:56] <raveesh> i have the same problem
[04:56] <abattoir> hyper: comment that line(add a # before it)
[04:56] <CVirus> !mp3
[04:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:56] <CVirus> Agiofws: *
[04:56] <raveesh> everythings fine
[04:56] <CVirus> Agiofws: ^
[04:56] <hyper> abattoir: done
[04:56] <CVirus> Agiofws: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[04:57] <intelikey> dinosaur-rus yeah i was making a 'pun'   even if it wasn't a good one.
[04:57] <abattoir> hyper: ok, now run make and sudo make install
[04:57] <Agiofws> hybrid, CVirus   whats the apt-get package  fro kubuntu ?
[04:57] <raveesh> does anyone know how can i install the libxine-extracodecs
[04:57] <abattoir> hyper: then stop and restart bluetooth
[04:57] <Agiofws> synaptic ?
[04:57] <abattoir> raveesh: do you have multiverse enabled?
[04:57] <CVirus> Agiofws: cant you just read the freakin' page ?
[04:57] <Agiofws> does he install it with synaptic ?
[04:57] <CVirus> Agiofws: you're not a ubuntu user ?
[04:57] <Agiofws> no
[04:57] <Agiofws> my freind is
[04:58] <CVirus> Agiofws: try to bring him here and I could help
[04:58] <hyper> abattoir: how to restart bluetooth? ^^ there's no entry (or used to be none) at /etc/init.d/bluez-utils :)
[04:58] <abattoir> hyper: /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart ;)
[04:58] <CVirus> Agiofws: is he using Ubuntu or Kubuntu ?
[04:58] <hyper> abattoir: bt restarted
[04:58] <Agiofws> Kubuntu
[04:59] <hyper> abattoir: (no error message so far ^^)
[04:59] <hyper> Agiofws: isn't amarok installed by default on kubuntu?
[04:59] <intelikey> Agiofws so do a  wget  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:00] <Agiofws> and then  where does he save themm ?
[05:00] <Agiofws> yes he has amrok
[05:00] <Agiofws> intelikey,  ?
[05:02] <hyper> abattoir: still pairing not allowed
[05:02] <abattoir> hyper: did you run that command?
[05:02] <hyper> abattoir: I run:   btsco -v 00:0D:44:3B:7D:B9
[05:03] <Agiofws>  If you are using the version of amarok that comes by default with Kubuntu 5.10, install gstreamer0.8-mad. ?
[05:03] <MHazem> Agiofws: sorry .. dc'ed
[05:03] <abattoir> hyper: meant sudo hciconfig hci0 piscan
[05:03] <CVirus> Agiofws: tell him to do the following
[05:03] <hyper> abatoir: not yet ^^
[05:03] <Agiofws> does he have to do this via synaptic ?
[05:03] <abattoir> Agiofws: you friend is running breezy?(5.10) ?
[05:03] <hyper> abattoir: I run it now
[05:03] <CVirus> Agiofws: sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/oldsources.list && kate /etc/apt/sources.list and add those lines http://rafb.net/paste/results/laIGsm23.html
[05:03] <dinosaur-rus> omg, the .tar archive with my home directory is ~1.2GB... :S
[05:04] <CVirus> Agiofws: sudo apt-get update
[05:04] <Agiofws> what does kate do ?
[05:04] <hyper> abattoir: when I run now btsco -v .... still no pairing allowed
[05:04] <Agiofws> he is running 6.06
[05:04] <dinosaur-rus> Agiofws: it's a text editor
[05:05] <CVirus> Agiofws: are those steps done ?
[05:05] <Agiofws> not yet
[05:05] <intelikey> dinosaur-rus i said that seemed big for just a linux system  you have 2G of user space data
[05:05] <abattoir> hyper: it works/worked in dapper?
[05:05] <Agiofws> but add which lines  ?
[05:05] <intelikey> or more
[05:05] <abattoir> hyper: if it works there, then my advice is to wait for it to be fixed in edgy
[05:05] <Agiofws> add which lines  ?
[05:06] <hyper> abattoir: in dapper I got the pairing to work and it reacted on the volume settings... but never could get audio to run itself
[05:06] <Agiofws> to  /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:06] <CVirus> Agiofws: all the lines in the link I gave you
[05:06] <dinosaur-rus> intelikey: I have lots of source from different CVS/Git/SVN repositories
[05:06] <hyper> abattoir: I had the hope that it might run better in edgy :)
[05:06] <intelikey> yep there is it.
[05:06] <CVirus> Agiofws: add them to his /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:06] <Agiofws> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  this one ?
[05:06] <CVirus> damn
[05:06] <Agiofws> which link ?
[05:06] <CVirus> Agiofws: http://rafb.net/paste/results/laIGsm23.html
[05:06] <abattoir> hyper: as i said, there is a bug in upstream bluez-utils, so i guess you have to wait for that to be fixed in edgy
[05:06] <Agiofws> ok
[05:06] <CVirus> Agiofws: not the link itself ... but the lines inside
[05:06] <hyper> abattoir: thx :)
[05:07] <Agiofws> i'll tell him
[05:07] <hyper> abattoir: very kind of you to try and help me
[05:07] <CVirus> Agiofws: line 1 to 8
[05:07] <abattoir> hyper: :), sorry i couldn't be of better help ;)
[05:07] <hyper> abattoir: well, you did your best and invested quite a bit of time
[05:07] <CVirus> Agiofws: are you done yet ?
[05:08] <abattoir> hyper: glad you see it that way :)
[05:08] <hyper> abattoir: so no need to say sorry... I have to say thanks for that :)
[05:08] <CVirus> Agiofws: cant your friend use IRC ?
[05:08] <Agiofws> he is but  not another server yet
[05:08] <Agiofws> he is on grbet
[05:08] <CVirus> Agiofws: why the hell cant he join this server ?!
[05:08] <Agiofws> net*
[05:09] <Agiofws> does not know  how to yet
[05:09] <hyper> abattoir: too bad it didn't work out... could have written a small howto on how I got it to work
[05:09] <CVirus> Agiofws: is he done ?
[05:09] <Agiofws> wait its telling hime command not found
[05:09] <Agiofws> hes in the forst step
[05:10] <CVirus> forst ?
[05:10] <CVirus> whats a forst !!
[05:10] <CVirus> will you please be productive ?!
[05:10] <Agiofws> first*
[05:10] <CVirus> you're wasting my fucken time
[05:10] <Agiofws> i am trying
[05:10] <CVirus> which command isnt found ?
[05:10] <Agiofws> i am in the m iddle here
[05:10] <CVirus> Agiofws: let him join the freakin' server then
[05:11] <Agiofws> CVirus,   this is what he gets
[05:11] <Agiofws> themis@themis-desktop:~$ sudo mv/etc/apt/sources.list/etc/apt/oldsources.list
[05:11] <Agiofws> themis_ Password:
[05:11] <Agiofws> themis_ sudo: mv/etc/apt/sources.list/etc/apt/oldsources.list: command not found
[05:11] <Agiofws> wtf ?
[05:11] <CVirus> wtf with you ?
[05:11] <CVirus> you arent copy and pasting my instructions
[05:11] <trappist> Agiofws: you need a space between mv and the first /
[05:11] <Dr_willis> mv /whatever (note the space)
[05:11] <CVirus> Agiofws: scroll up and copy it properly
[05:11] <Agiofws> huh
[05:11] <CVirus> Agiofws: scroll up
[05:11] <CVirus> Agiofws: and copy the command properly
[05:12] <Agiofws> i did he typed it wring
[05:12] <Agiofws> wrong
[05:12] <CVirus> this isnt my fault either
[05:12] <hyper> abattoir: Hmmm, I guess I'm gonna try and get it work now in6.06.....
[05:13] <hyper> brb
[05:13] <CVirus> Agiofws: cant he edit a file ?! .. more than 10 minutes to edit a freakin' file ?
[05:13] <Agiofws> i know
[05:14] <Agiofws> i'm in a hurry here as you are
[05:14] <Agiofws> ok he moved the file
[05:14] <CVirus> Agiofws: you should have asked him to join this server
[05:15] <CVirus> Agiofws: the first command was a rename of the file sources.list ... the second command {the one after the &&} will create a new file with the same name so that you could add the lines I gave you to it
[05:16] <Agiofws> i know
[05:16] <Agiofws> i'm telling him ti edit the file now
[05:16] <caseyomah> I want to unpartition a drive (/dev/hdb) that currently has one partition (/dev/hdb1). How do I do that?
[05:17] <Agiofws> how does kate close ?
[05:17] <hyper> back again
[05:17] <intelikey> CVirus so rather than two steps why didnt you say "cp old new"    :)
[05:17] <dinosaur-rus> Agiofws: lol
[05:18] <Agiofws> i could tell him to use vi
[05:18] <CVirus> damn .. you dont know how kate closes and you want him to use vi
[05:19] <Agiofws> CVirus,   i don't use kate
[05:19] <mini_gamer1896> intelikey: i made a new user and overlayed a new session;  logged on to xfce, and had to restart that xserver session, because no toolbars nor the ablilty to right click appeared
[05:19] <v3ctor> Dr_willis: is that near Oregon?
[05:19] <Agiofws> vi is ok for me
[05:19] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:19] <CVirus> Agiofws: will you edit the file in whatever way ?
[05:20] <Dr_willis> vi does have a gui. :P its just a very simple gui
[05:20] <CVirus> GUI editors arent as powerful as test based editors
[05:20] <mini_gamer1896> intelikey: am going to log out and try without the overlay
[05:20] <CVirus> lets stick to topic anyway
[05:20] <CVirus> text*
[05:20] <Agiofws> themis_ themis@themis-desktop:~$ sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:20] <Agiofws> themis_ X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[05:20] <Agiofws> themis_   Major opcode:  144
[05:20] <intelikey> mini_gamer1896 good idea
[05:20] <Agiofws> whats that now
[05:20] <CVirus> Agiofws: its okay
[05:20] <Agiofws> i though he moved it
[05:20] <trappist> Agiofws: those are X warnings.  you can ignore them.
[05:20] <Agiofws> ok
[05:20] <Agiofws> so where does he add them ?
[05:21] <Agiofws> at the end ?
[05:21] <trappist> Agiofws: they come from having the wacom stuff in the xorg.conf
[05:21] <Dr_willis>  uninitialized input device 166    --> is due to the wacom tablet entry in the xorg.conf file. I think.
[05:21] <CVirus> Agiofws: the file shou
[05:21] <intelikey> !start an editor war
[05:21] <CVirus> deb http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[05:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about start an editor war - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:21] <CVirus> deb-src http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[05:21] <CVirus>
[05:21] <CVirus> deb http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[05:21] <CVirus> deb-src http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[05:21] <CVirus>
[05:22] <intelikey> the bot's no fun anymore
[05:22] <CVirus> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[05:22] <CVirus> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[05:22] <CVirus> oops
[05:22] <CVirus> damn
[05:22] <CVirus> Agiofws: the file should be empty !
[05:22] <abionnnn> has anyone had any trouble running xfig under kubuntu/ubuntu?
[05:22] <Agiofws> oh ok i though those were in the file
[05:23] <CVirus> Agiofws: I really dunno what you're talking about ... I'm sorry I can not help you any longer since you're acting like a stupid newbie
[05:24] <trappist> CVirus: please observe the CoC
[05:24] <trappist> !CoC > CVirus
[05:24] <Agiofws> i am not acting like a stupiod newbei i am just truing to help
[05:24] <CVirus> !CoC
[05:24] <ubotu> The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[05:24] <tristanmike> Agiofws: don't listen to him, we only let him out for some air
[05:24] <Agiofws> and maybe  if kate woyld not show thos stupid messages i wouyld not be confused now
[05:25] <CVirus> this is too much really
[05:25] <caseyomah> !partition
[05:25] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[05:26] <mini_gamer1896> intelikey: ok, i got on and it pulled up properly via the test user account; should i remove the kde settings from my folder?
[05:26] <abionnnn> I guess this channel is too big for anyone to run xfig ?:P
[05:27] <intelikey> mini_gamer1896 that should affectively reset it.   something like  rm ~/.kde -R
[05:27] <Agiofws> CVirus,  should he paste  the lines ass they are exactly   in the   in url ?
[05:27] <Agiofws> with the deb part infront ?
[05:28] <Agiofws> or only the urls ?
[05:28] <tristanmike> if you're installing repos, then yes with the "deb" part in front
[05:28] <intelikey> it is possable mini_gamer1896 that another .* config file is affecting it.
[05:28] <mini_gamer1896> intelikey, could be, most of the mess started when i activated the bagira style
[05:30] <Agiofws> how do you save a file using kate ?
[05:30] <intelikey> mini_gamer1896 may i sujest you do something like    for this in /home/<other_user>/.* ;do [ -f `basename $this` ]  && diff `basename $this` $this ;done
[05:31] <Agiofws> ok he saved it  intelikey
[05:31] <Agiofws> now
[05:31] <intelikey> to compare the configuration files in the two home dirs
[05:31] <Agiofws> sudo apt-get  ?
[05:31] <intelikey> update
[05:32] <intelikey> Agiofws> sudo apt-get  ?     ?==update
[05:32] <tristanmike> Agiofws: sudo apt-get update
[05:32] <Agiofws> sudo apt-get update
[05:32] <Agiofws> ok
[05:32] <caseyomah> Without using QTParted or GParted is there a way to remove a partition?
[05:32] <Agiofws> after that will he have the gfreakin m,p3 codecs ?
[05:32] <intelikey> caseyomah sure
[05:32] <intelikey> fdisk
[05:33] <Agiofws> or does he have to do more magic ?
[05:33] <intelikey> cfdisk might like you better
[05:33] <Agiofws> cfdisk
[05:33] <tristanmike> Agiofws: after you install them, yes :D
[05:33] <mini_gamer1896> intelikey, sry, am not that proficient in bash lingo |  i understand the first segment, should i directly copy everything else thereafter verbatem?
[05:34] <Agiofws> what does he have to install ?
[05:34] <intelikey> mini_gamer1896 all but the <other_user>   it needs translated.
[05:34] <mini_gamer1896> k
[05:34] <Agiofws> tristanmike,  ?
[05:35] <tristanmike> Agiofws: sorry, didn't know you were talking to me....for mp3 in Kubuntu ?
[05:35] <Agiofws> yes please if you could
[05:35] <CVirus> Agiofws: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[05:35] <Agiofws> ok
[05:35] <tristanmike> Agiofws: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:35] <tristanmike> Agiofws: that site has a whole bunch of things to install
[05:35] <CVirus> tristanmike: he doesnt want to reamd
[05:35] <CVirus> read*
[05:36] <CVirus> and yet he needs our help
[05:36] <CVirus> Agiofws: tell your friend to read this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[05:36] <tristanmike> CVirus: you need more patience
[05:36] <rexbron> !libxine-extracodecs
[05:36] <ubotu> libxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (dapper), package size 1148 kB, installed size 2976 kB
[05:36] <narasim_7> i installed kubuntu from 6.06 desktop cd..i have ubuntu 6.06alternate cd
[05:36] <intelikey> CVirus are you a doctor ?
[05:36] <CVirus> tristanmike: I guess so
[05:36] <tristanmike> you have to remember what it was like when we knew nothing
[05:36] <CVirus> intelikey: I'm still a student
[05:36] <intelikey> oh  patience  not  patients
[05:36] <intelikey> sorry
[05:36] <caseyomah> I'm getting "FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
[05:36] <caseyomah> Press any key to exit cfdisk" on "cfdisk /dev/hdb" (the drive I want to unpartition)
[05:36] <narasim_7> i used aptcdrom to add ubuntu cd ... but i cannot install gnome now
[05:37] <trappist> CVirus: if you don't want to help him, don't help him.  kindly refrain from interfering with others trying to help him patiently.
[05:37] <tristanmike> LOL @ intelikey
[05:37] <Agiofws> no he's ok i heard worse
[05:37] <CVirus> trappist: sure
[05:37] <CVirus> Agiofws: I apologize
[05:37] <intelikey> :)
[05:37] <AtKaaZ> !logs
[05:37] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[05:37] <narasim_7>  i installed kubuntu from 6.06 desktop cd..i have ubuntu 6.06alternate cd i used aptcdrom to add ubuntu cd ... but i cannot install gnome now
[05:37] <Agiofws> no need to
[05:37] <tristanmike> we all friends here :D
[05:37] <abionnnn> narasim_7: I hope you don't plan on running xfig!
[05:37] <Agiofws> i'm ok so are you
[05:38] <intelikey> tristanmike all but me.
[05:38] <narasim_7> abionnnn: i dont understand
[05:38] <tristanmike> yeah, intelikey is a big jerk, don't listen to him
[05:38] <intelikey> life would be dull without any enemies
[05:38] <tristanmike> :P
[05:38] <thewheat> I have a problem w/ edgy, i cant play .mp4 files anymore. got any help?
[05:38] <intelikey> :)
[05:38] <AtKaaZ> can X.org run while in framebuffer mode using nvidiafb?
[05:38] <trappist> thewheat: #ubuntu+1 for edgy help
[05:38] <narasim_7> abionnnn: i used apt-ddrom to add the cd but when i do a apt-get install gnome-desktop it says no packages found
[05:39] <tristanmike> hows it comming Agiofws ?
[05:39] <thewheat> trappist: thanx :)
[05:39] <caseyomah> narasim_7: ubuntu-desktop is the name of the package
[05:39] <intelikey> AtKaaZ i think so.
[05:39] <intelikey> AtKaaZ i haven't tested that.
[05:39] <narasim_7> caseyomah: ok..will try and let u know
[05:40] <Agiofws> ok he  is loading the codecs
[05:41] <AtKaaZ> intelikey ok. I guess I need xorg version that runs with framebuffer (trying to find it now)
[05:41] <caseyomah> What is the right variable pass for oKle added the the media "DVD Video Disk"?
[05:42] <intelikey> AtKaaZ xserver-xorg-driver-fbdev  ???
[05:42] <AtKaaZ> intelikey yes apparently I've to specify fbdev instead of nv or ndivia on the driver section, but now I seem to be missing some fonts including 'fixed'
[05:43] <intelikey> hmmm yeah  fb isn't using defoma    hmmm
[05:44] <intelikey> AtKaaZ i don't know what to tell you there.  maybe someone that uses x can step in
[05:44] <AtKaaZ> intelikey i've no idea what defoma is :)
[05:44] <AtKaaZ> intelikey thanks for your help ;)
[05:44] <intelikey> np
[05:44] <nomadsoul> intelikey: what time is it?
[05:44] <nomadsoul> intelikey what time is it?
[05:45] <nomadsoul> intelikey: are you a bot?
[05:45] <AtKaaZ> :)
[05:45] <intelikey> Description: Debian Font Manager -- automatic font configuration framework
[05:45] <intelikey>  Defoma, which stands for DEbian FOnt MAnager, provides a framework
[05:45] <intelikey>  for automatic font configuration.
[05:45] <intelikey> AtKaaZ ^
[05:45] <AtKaaZ> yep, got it thanks
[05:46] <intelikey> it's still kinda new and growing
[05:46] <intelikey> i think *buntu introduced it with 6.6
[05:46] <DaSkreech> nomadsoul: It is a bot :-)
[05:47] <narasim_7> caseyomah: may be i will install them from the repositories itself , thanks
[05:47] <intelikey> nomadsoul :)
[05:47] <caseyomah> narasim_7: No problem.
[05:48] <intelikey> the time is 15:48 gmt
[05:48] <AtKaaZ> any idea how to fix this? Couldn't open RGB_DB '/etc/X11/rgb'
[05:48] <narasim_7> one more thing....my alternate cd is hanging while installing xorg..i tried with my friends ' alternate cd also .. but i can install from desktop cd..any clues?
[05:49] <intelikey> AtKaaZ permissions issue   probably something not suid=root
[05:49] <narasim_7> configuration P4 2.4 845gvsr no  video cards other than onboard
[05:50] <intelikey> AtKaaZ how did you call X ?
[05:50] <AtKaaZ> intelikey: startx
[05:50] <caseyomah> LOL I figured out the problem with cfdisk, I forgot to su. lol
[05:50] <intelikey> ls -l `which startx`   see if it's +s
[05:50] <narasim_7> ok bye..everyone
[05:50] <nomadsoul> AtKaaZ: can i have kubuntu in italian?
[05:51] <AtKaaZ> intelikey I can actually see the screen + mouse cursor for a few msec there :) after that I'm back to console
[05:51] <AtKaaZ> nomadsoul I don't know :P
[05:51] <nomadsoul> i'll ask to the bot
[05:51] <nomadsoul> intelikey: can i have kubuntu in italian?
[05:51] <DaSkreech> !it
[05:51] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:51] <intelikey> may need a ~/.sxession file AtKaaZ
[05:51] <AtKaaZ> intelikey it's not +s :)
[05:51] <intelikey> nomadsoul yes you can.
[05:52] <nomadsoul> intelikey: how?
[05:52] <intelikey> run kconfigure   and select your language
[05:52] <nomadsoul> intelikey: tnks
[05:52] <nomadsoul> intelikey: as root?
[05:53] <intelikey> as user
[05:53] <nomadsoul> intelikey: i do not have kconfigure
[05:53] <intelikey> unless you want to set it system wide
[05:53] <AtKaaZ> intelikey you are right something complains about missing ~/.xsession file what do I put in it? kde?
[05:53] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Me either
[05:53] <intelikey> DaSkreech then give him the propper name
[05:53] <intelikey> i don
[05:54] <intelikey> 't
[05:54] <Agiofws> adept updater  does kubuntu have anything like  mpg123 ?
[05:54] <intelikey> have kde
[05:54] <trappist> Agiofws: yes, it has mpg123.  and mpg321.
[05:54] <nomadsoul> intelikey: i do not have kconfigure
[05:54] <mini_gamer1896> intelikey, ok, this is going to take more time than i have right now, so am going to put this on hold; thanks for you assistance
[05:54] <AtKaaZ> intelikey should i use /etc/X11/Xsession ?
[05:54] <intelikey> mini_gamer1896 np
[05:54] <DaSkreech> intelikey: You mean kcontrol?
[05:54] <intelikey> yes DaSkreech
[05:54] <DaSkreech> nomadsoul: run kcontrol
[05:55] <nomadsoul> DaSkreech: bu ti do not have italian inkcontrol :P
[05:55] <intelikey> AtKaaZ echo "rxvt
[05:55] <Agiofws> ok it worked  thanks for the help
[05:55] <trappist> nomadsoul: try systemsettings
[05:55] <intelikey> AtKaaZ echo "rxvt" > .xsession
[05:55] <intelikey> i keep bumping the enter key.   sorry for the typos.
[05:56] <tristanmike> Agiofws: glad to hear it :D
[05:56] <DaSkreech> nomadsoul: Try in System Settings then
[05:56] <nomadsoul> trappist: isn't systemsettings the same as kcontrol??
[05:56] <DaSkreech> Yeah :)
[05:56] <trappist> nomadsoul: not exactly
[05:56] <trappist> serves the same purpose, but it's a different app
[05:57] <intelikey> AtKaaZ you can use any command that you wish to use for the base session.   twm, xfce4-session, kde-session,  yada yada yada...
[05:57] <intelikey> as long as it's installed
[05:57] <nomadsoul> by the way i can only select Italy as my country but i still have only US or British English as language
[05:58] <nomadsoul> do i have to aspt-get something?
[05:58] <intelikey> nomadsoul install the i18's
[05:58] <nomadsoul> *apt-get
[05:58] <nomadsoul> intelikey: what i18n'2?
[05:58] <nomadsoul> intelikey: what i18n's?
[05:58] <nomadsoul> i do not see it in aptitude
[05:58] <zorglu_> !languagr
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about languagr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <zorglu_> !languages
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about languages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:59] <zorglu_> i know there is a keyword for it
[05:59] <zorglu_> !locales
[05:59] <ubotu> To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[05:59] <zorglu_> there is a better one
[05:59] <AtKaaZ> intelikey thanks it worked with konsole
[05:59] <zorglu_> !i18n
[05:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i18n - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:00] <trappist> zorglu_: if you're not sure exactly what you want (or even if you are, and it's just for you) you can ask the bot in private message so as not to spam the channel
[06:00] <trappist> zorglu_: as in, /msg ubotu i18n
[06:01] <zorglu_> :)
[06:01] <intelikey> nomadsoul   language-support-it - metapackage for Italian language support  <-- for one.
[06:01] <nomadsoul> ok
[06:02] <nomadsoul> it says that it is not possible to find language-support-it
[06:02] <DaSkreech> nomadsoul: kde-i18n-it can't kill either :)
[06:02] <intelikey> openoffice.org-l10n-it - Italian language package for OpenOffice.org
[06:02] <igor> anybody knows how i get the codecs to watch any king of films on the Kaffeine player??
[06:02] <igor> i use kubunto
[06:02] <igor> :T
[06:02] <DaSkreech> !codecs > igor
[06:02] <zorglu_> so no idea on the page on which all of them are regrouped ?
[06:02] <nomadsoul> DaSkreech: I think i have to update my source.list
[06:03] <DaSkreech> nomadsoul: try language-pack-it
[06:03] <ccc> i'm trying to add a new, extra hd on my system but i fear the new disk is dead. 'sudo fdisk -l' should show ALL connected disks, right?
[06:03] <ccc> even non mounted devices, that is
[06:03] <igor> DaSkreech: ok...i'll try..thanks
[06:03] <intelikey> language-pack-gnome-it - GNOME translation updates for language Italian  <--- if you use gnome
[06:03] <DaSkreech> nomadsoul: can't find kde-i18n-it ?
[06:03] <nomadsoul> i only have language-pack-en
[06:03] <heras> Hi
[06:03] <nomadsoul> or language-packe-us-kde
[06:04] <nomadsoul> apt-get update?
[06:04] <intelikey> language-pack-kde-it - KDE translation updates for language Italian
[06:04] <intelikey> language-pack-kde-it-base - KDE translations for language Italian
[06:04] <intelikey> nomadsoul there   ^
[06:04] <nomadsoul> intelikey: yes i searched that way but found nothing
[06:04] <DaSkreech> Where are you searching?
[06:04] <ubuntu> can someone please help me to install lilo from live CD ??!
[06:05] <intelikey> nomadsoul i got that from apt-cache search language-pack-kde | grep -e '-it'
[06:05] <intelikey> try it and see if it shows
[06:05] <DaSkreech> Nikola-kv: You are trying to rescue a computer?
[06:05] <_Lisa_> Digg: http://digg.com/tech_news/Pagerank_update_now_Visible
[06:05] <Nikola-kv> yup
[06:05] <nomadsoul> intelikey: i think i have to correctly compile /etc/apt/source.list
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Nikola-kv: What Distro was on it before?
[06:06] <igor> DaSkreech: should i just write : !codecs ....on the console???
[06:06] <heras> I just installed klibido, but am unable to figure out how to operate it. Can't find anyting in KDE help center.
[06:06] <nomadsoul> can someone give me his source.list?
[06:06] <DaSkreech> igor: No ubotu should have sent you a message
[06:06] <DaSkreech>  read the links from there
[06:06] <Nikola-kv> suse
[06:06] <DaSkreech> nomadsoul: did you try a sudo apt-get update ?
[06:06] <intelikey> nomadsoul "apt-cache search language-pack-kde | grep -e '-it'         try it and see if it shows,  if not you have not the correct repos setup
[06:06] <igor> DaSkreech: yeah!
[06:06] <igor> :)
[06:07] <DaSkreech> igor: ok Read those they should help you
[06:07] <nomadsoul> DaSkreech: yes it does nothing because the whole source.list is commented..
[06:07] <Nikola-kv> I also have kubuntu on other partition, but I cant load it now ...
[06:07] <Nikola-kv> i fixed mbr from winXP cd
[06:08] <Skalord> hi
[06:08] <DaSkreech> nomadsoul: That might be a problem :)
[06:08] <DaSkreech> Ahhh
[06:08] <DaSkreech> !grub
[06:08] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:08] <nomadsoul> DaSkreech: can you give me your source.list?
[06:08] <DaSkreech> Nikola-kv: read the REcovering Link
[06:08] <Nikola-kv> ok, thx
[06:08] <Skalord> cpk2 ..`> have i got to do security copies of my files before installing kubuntu?
[06:10] <Acc> LeeJunFan: are u here, or do u idle?
[06:11] <Skalord> have i got to do security copies f my files before installing kubuntu?
[06:11] <nomadsoul> intelikey: my dcc doesn-t work
[06:11] <nomadsoul> can someone paste his source.list on nopaste?
[06:12] <fdoving> Skalord: i'd recommend it. but it's not essential if you know what you're doing :)
[06:12] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[06:12] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[06:12] <Skalord> fdoving ..`> well i dont know anything about linux lol
[06:12] <intelikey> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security main restricted universe multiverse
[06:12] <fdoving> Skalord: then i'd recommend backups.
[06:12] <intelikey> there   that's all you "need"  ^
[06:13] <Jan-pp> i have an x session running remotely over nx. if i start azureus, the splash displays. if i go into the java config dialog, it works. if i go into nano, nothing happens. screenshot: http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9550/zwischenablage01gz5.png - if i click now, the menu goes away and thats it
[06:13] <Skalord> fdoving ..`> but the problem is it takes a lot of time cause i have 15 gb i wouldn't like too get lost
[06:13] <nomadsoul> intelikey: thank you
[06:14] <intelikey> nomadsoul np
[06:16] <Skalord> fdoving ..`> how can i do a fast backup or something like that
[06:16] <fdoving> Skalord: dvds or something.
[06:17] <Skalord> fdoving ..`> but 15 gb takes so long :(
[06:18] <intelikey> 15G    have a spare hd ?
[06:18] <DaSkreech> nomadsoul: Take intelikey's
[06:18] <Skalord> no 15 gb is what id like to save
[06:18] <nomadsoul> DaSkreech: ??
[06:18] <intelikey> Skalord i got that.  i was asking if you had a spare hd to put it on
[06:18] <DaSkreech> Skalord: Do you have 15 GB of space to put em somewhere?
[06:19] <DaSkreech> nomadsoul: Sorry catching up  :)
[06:19] <nomadsoul> :P
[06:19] <Skalord> itelikely what exactly is a spare id :s
[06:20] <Skalord> intelikey*
[06:20] <intelikey> not id  hd   as in  hard drive
[06:20] <intelikey> fixed disk drive as it's sometimes called
[06:20] <Skalord> i dont know :s i have a 1gb memo ive found lol
[06:21] <intelikey> ig memn   that's not a meno that's full collection of dime store novals
[06:22] <intelikey> 1G ^
[06:24] <root___>   how to install packages tthrough console ???
[06:24] <DaSkreech> root___: First Don't login as root :)
[06:24] <fdoving> root___: apt-get install
[06:24] <intelikey> root___ apt-get install package-name
[06:24] <rampage>  lol ok
[06:24] <DaSkreech> second it's apt-get install <packagename>
[06:24] <rampage>   ok
[06:25] <Hawkwind> sudo apt-get install <package> actually is correct :P
[06:25] <Hawkwind> Though logged in as root, guess the sudo isn't necessary
[06:25] <Hawkwind> Hah
[06:25] <DaSkreech> Yeah I took that into consideration
[06:25] <intelikey> Hawkwind unless package-name was the real name of the package to be installed   :)
[06:26] <egarim> when edgy will be released in november or early?
[06:26] <Hawkwind> intelikey: Hah.  We all know that's been done a million times too
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Yeah I was wondering what's the difference between the package and the packagename
[06:26] <Hawkwind> egarim: Sometime this month
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Since I almost always use package name
[06:26] <DaSkreech> !schedule
[06:26] <ubotu> Ubuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Edgy schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyReleaseSchedule
[06:26] <egarim> Hawkwind: are u sure this month ?
[06:26] <DaSkreech> egarim: Read ^^ :-)
[06:26] <Hawkwind> egarim: Yes, hence the 6.10 version number
[06:26] <egarim> ok thank you
[06:26] <Hawkwind> Means the 10th month of 2006
[06:27] <Arlington> does some one know if it's possible to make Ctrl-Alt for like Alt Gr as they do in windows?
[06:27] <Hawkwind> intelikey: LOL, that'd be funny
[06:27] <intelikey> ty
[06:28] <egarim> so if the UniverseFreeze is alredy done the packages will not changed ?
[06:28] <egarim> only the kernel ?
[06:28] <intelikey> ooops
[06:29] <Arlington> does some one know if it's possible to make Ctrl-Alt for like Alt Gr as they do in windows?
[06:29] <intelikey> Arlington yes it is.
[06:30] <intelikey> but now don't ask me how.
[06:30] <intelikey> :)
[06:30] <rampage>   installing packages offline
[06:30] <rampage>   ???/
[06:30] <caseyomah> What command line variables are there for "Storage Media"?
[06:31] <intelikey> rampage you can put it in /var/cache/apt/archives/  and still use apt to install it.   or  dpkg -i package.deb
[06:31] <intelikey> caseyomah man mount
[06:31] <caseyomah> Thank you.
[06:31] <intelikey> or you may be asking about cdrecord ?
[06:33] <caseyomah> That's not what I'm looking for I mean %u...
[06:33] <Arlington> intelikey: grrr. tell me now! or i'll eat ya!
[06:34] <zorglu_> Arlington: 'menu -> system setting -> personnal -> regional + accesibility' is where you can configure your keyboard
[06:34] <intelikey> Arlington in the gui, i suppose you are refering to ?     kde has key bindings app of some sort
[06:34] <alejandro> hi
[06:34] <Zoros> hi
[06:35] <intelikey> ah yes zorglu_ got you Arlington
[06:36] <zorglu_> ALL: it is for a poll, what is your output for "du -s /var/cache/apt/archives"
[06:37] <Arlington> zorglu_: THANX!!
[06:37] <zorglu_> Arlington: cool :) what is your output for  "du -s /var/cache/apt/archives"
[06:39] <zorglu_> this command wont hurt anybody :) it is just a way for me to know the size of your apt archives
[06:39] <DeadS0ul> which command?
[06:40] <zorglu_> du -s /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:40] <zorglu_> 303136 <- this is mine
[06:40] <DeadS0ul> good ol' du
[06:40] <zorglu_> show me yours :)
[06:40] <DeadS0ul> meh why isn't kopete connecting to msn >|
[06:41] <zorglu_> ok nobody want to answer my poll....
[06:41] <intelikey> zorglu_ why would it matter....   you can clear the archive cache with   sudo apt-get clean
[06:41] <DeadS0ul> i'm updating atm
[06:41] <zorglu_> intelikey: it does matter to me to get this info :)
[06:42] <intelikey> 1172156	/var/cache/apt/archives
[06:42] <intelikey> there's mine
[06:42] <zorglu_> intelikey: thanks
[06:42] <jtholmes> Hawkwind: are you around
[06:42] <intelikey> but i don't clear it.  i'm on dialup and if i reinstall i don't want to re-download all that
[06:42] <[Pitcher] > [Pitcher]   New Server of IRC, type: /server -m irc.ubuntuzone.org:6668 Tu nuevo servidor de Ubuntu: /server -m irc.ubuntuzone.org:6668}
[06:43] <[Pitcher] > damian_  New Server of IRC, type: /server -m irc.ubuntuzone.org:6668 Tu nuevo servidor de Ubuntu: /server -m irc.ubuntuzone.org:6668}
[06:43] <zorglu_> intelikey: yep it is not cleared by default
[06:43] <DaSkreech> 1097810 /var/cache/apt/archives
[06:43] <zorglu_> this spammer comes like once a day trying to split the ubuntu community
[06:43] <zorglu_> DaSkreech: thanks
[06:43] <intelikey> zorglu_ normally for anyone that has high band width  i would just sujest clearing it.
[06:43] <caseyomah> I'm looking for the autostart %vars in KDE's Removable Media.
[06:44] <intelikey> if you do updates you will have several versions of blah.deb in there
[06:44] <DeadS0ul> anyone able to connect with msn on kopete here?
[06:45] <tristanmike> DeadS0ul: I'm on it right now
[06:45] <rampage>  how to install packages which are in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[06:46] <DeadS0ul> even kmess doesn't work
[06:46] <jtholmes> Being a long time Linux user i know how I would handle this. the question is a windows person has all 40g of his only hard drive as his C: drive so would that person have to run live cd and know how to use parted to create  swap and space for ubuntu before installing from live cd?
[06:46] <rampage> ??
[06:46] <intelikey> rampage sudo apt-get install package
[06:46] <intelikey> rampage what is the package in question ?
[06:47] <rampage>  codec libs
[06:47] <jtholmes> I dont have any means to experiment because I dont use Windows
[06:47] <intelikey> rampage sudo dpkg -i "codec libs.deb"
[06:47] <rampage>  apt-get dpkg -i is not working
[06:47] <zorglu_> jtholmes: there is a page on the web and the bot explaining this
[06:47] <intelikey> but i don't think you gave me the real name :)
[06:48] <jtholmes> zorglu_: in the wiki or else where, do you know the url
[06:48] <zorglu_> jtholmes: but i dont remember it exactly and trappist told me not to test it
[06:48] <zorglu_> jtholmes: nope
[06:48] <Hawkwind> jtholmes: I do believe I am :)
[06:48] <trappist> zorglu_: test it in private message, is what I said
[06:48] <jtholmes> zorglu_: who is trappist
[06:48] <intelikey> what error rampage ?
[06:48] <zorglu_> trappist: yep sorry for the incorrect report
[06:48] <zorglu_> jtholmes: here he is  :)
[06:49] <jtholmes> zorglu_: is trappist on
[06:49] <rampage> E: Invalid operation dpkg
[06:49] <trappist> rampage: it's not apt-get dpkg -i, it's just dpkg -i
[06:51] <Joel-Wideman> hello
[06:51] <jtholmes> Hawkwind: good missed you reply do you happen to see the long message i wrote about 1-2 minutes ago about windows users installing ubuntu on c: only dirve
[06:52] <buz> does linux realplayer contain spyware?
[06:52] <intelikey> then you did type that "apt-get dpkg -i ..."   hehhe i thought so... you don't use both commands.  either apt-get or dpkg  not both.     rampage sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/*cod*.deb
[06:53] <intelikey> rampage copy and paste that ^ starting at sudo to the end of post.
[06:53] <rampage> then
[06:53] <jtholmes> Hawkwind: long and short of it if a windows users has only one drive and it is taken up by their C:  slice and there is no space left do they have to run parted to create swap and space for installing ubuntu
[06:53] <Joel-Wideman> I'm trying to set up my kubuntu box as a print server - printing works fine, but no other computers (both another kubuntu box and a winxp) can't send to it.
[06:53] <intelikey> does it error ?
[06:54] <jtholmes> Hawkwind: point me to the url if there is one
[06:54] <intelikey> Joel-Wideman set cups to listen to the network ?
[06:55] <intelikey> !cups
[06:55] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:55] <intelikey> Joel-Wideman ^
[06:55] <intelikey>        http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing
[06:55] <intelikey>          https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:56] <Joel-Wideman> I'm having trouble configuring cups in kubuntu. The system settings gui refuses to accept any username/password when i try to configure the print server, and pointing firefox at port 631 gives me a message that i can't configure it that way
[06:57] <Joel-Wideman> Am I simply going about it the wrong way?
[06:58] <Arlington> zorglu_: is it possible to add your own commands in some way?
[06:58] <zorglu_> zorglu_: ?
[06:58] <DaSkreech> Joel-Wideman: What docs ahve you read on CUPS?
[06:58] <Arlington> zorglu_: we spoke about Ctrl-Alt having same funciton as Alt Gr
[06:59] <DeadS0ul> Arlington: khotkeys
[06:59] <DeadS0ul> set'em to waht you want
[06:59] <zorglu_> Arlington: im no expert as configuring keyboard on kubuntu :) i told you all i knew :)
[07:00] <Arlington> zorglu_: okay :-)
[07:01] <Hawkwind> jtholmes: I don't use Windows anything, sorry
[07:01] <intelikey> rampage i forget how frustrating it is to be new to linux.   i should have pointed out that dpkg  is the debian package manager   and it requires exact path and file name   ./ is assumed if no path is used.   while apt is the advanced package management frontend to dpkg  apt uses the configuration file /etc/apt/sources.list to read the path and a database file  which contains a list of the packages in the repositories lis
[07:02] <Arlington> DeadS0ul: in wich repos is that? coulodn't find it among mine...
[07:02] <jtholmes> Hawkwind: neither do I. However i am trying to help some folks convert to Linux and that is where the question came from
[07:02] <Joel-Wideman> err... It's been awhile since I've read CUPS docs and maybe I'm just missing something there, but it was my understanding after searching for kubuntu print server issues that kubuntu needs some tricky configuring because it breaks cups print serving.
[07:02] <jtholmes> Hawkwind: thanks
[07:03] <Hawkwind> jtholmes: Might ask someone that knows Windows then.  I have nothing to do with that OS in over 4 years now
[07:03] <Joel-Wideman> As I said, local printing works fine.
[07:03] <DaSkreech> !cups
[07:03] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:03] <jtholmes> Hawkwind: ok thanks
[07:03] <intelikey> rampage thus apt needs only the general package name.   an examplt of each.    1. dpkg -i /some/place/package-name-version3.4.5-ubuntu.deb     would install the package package-name-version3.4.5-ubuntu.deb      2.  apt-get install package-name   would install that same package from the repos if it's listed in the database.
[07:04] <DeadS0ul> Arlington: go to System Settings -> Accessibility and Regional Settings
[07:04] <Arlington>  DeadS0ul: in wich repos is that? coulodn't find it among mine...
[07:04] <rampage> oh
[07:04] <rampage> thx inte
[07:05] <DeadS0ul> There's Keyboard Shortcuts, which is more standard keyboard input
[07:05] <buz> how can i print from acroread7? (kpdf doesnt display the pdf properly)
[07:05] <DeadS0ul> and there's input actions which is damn flexible
[07:05] <intelikey> therefore the conclusion is this.  if you have a file.deb that's not in the database use dpkg to install it manually.  if you want a package that is in the database use apt-get install <name> to install it an all it's dependancies automaticly.
[07:05] <Arlington> yeah but how can i configure them at my own will?
[07:06] <DeadS0ul> configure what exactly?
[07:06] <Arlington> taht would be xkb options right?
[07:06] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Might want to help setup his repos while we are explaining?
[07:06] <narasim_7> sudharsh: hi
[07:06] <intelikey> DaSkreech na that's another error down the road.  lets not make linux unbareable
[07:06] <sudharsh> narasim_7: hi..
[07:07] <DaSkreech> LInux bares all!
[07:07] <narasim_7> sudharsh: from ldtp?
[07:07] <sudharsh> narasim_7: yup
[07:07] <narasim_7> sudharsh: great
[07:07] <intelikey> but it's not borne of all
[07:07] <zorglu_> evil telnet which send command
[07:07] <Arlington> in windows Ctrl-Alt is same as Alt Gr button
[07:07] <intelikey> mmmm telnet
[07:07] <intelikey> hacker wet dream
[07:09] <zorglu_> intelikey: it sends 5byte of command when you close it :) spend 10min on that :) thinking it was a bug in my code
[07:09] <DeadS0ul> Alt Gr?
[07:09] <Arlington> right Alt called AltGr on swedish  board
[07:09] <intelikey> zorglu_ :)
[07:09] <DeadS0ul> you want to set up a keyboard layout?
[07:10] <Arlington> yes :-)
[07:10] <DeadS0ul> ahh
[07:10] <amachu> hi
[07:10] <amachu> how do i telnet to a remote server
[07:10] <MotorCityMadMan> can kmail be configured to access yahoo mail ?
[07:10] <DeadS0ul> system settings -> regional and accessibilty -> keyboard layout..
[07:10] <DeadS0ul> thre's a swedish layout there, add it
[07:11] <Arlington> well i've been there...
[07:11] <zorglu_> amachu: 'telnet thehostnameoftheremoveserver'
[07:11] <zorglu_> amachu: but ssh is prefered for security
[07:11] <amachu> ssh?
[07:11] <zorglu_> !ssh
[07:11] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[07:11] <DeadS0ul> and you've set it?
[07:11] <intelikey> !ssh
[07:11] <Arlington> can't make (at) or any other third level signs...
[07:11] <DeadS0ul> oh
[07:12] <DeadS0ul> I think it'll show an keyboard layout icon in the system tray after that, you have to switch to the swedish keyboard layout using that
[07:13] <DeadS0ul> oh here's the option
[07:13] <narasim_7> sudharsh:
[07:13] <DeadS0ul> hit the xkb option, and scroll down to the third level choosers
[07:13] <intelikey> DeadS0ul & Arlington if it's a system wide change desired wouldn't it be better to change the keyboard layout in xorg.conf ?
[07:13] <intelikey> not to be butting in.
[07:14] <DeadS0ul> there's a global option in xkb..
[07:14] <Arlington> intelikey:  it is. but how can i do that change there?
[07:14] <DeadS0ul> I dunno xkb settings though heh
[07:15] <jtholmes> anyone know the url for installing ubuntu on a single drive windows only box with no free disk space
[07:15] <zorglu_> it is accessible trhu system setting
[07:15] <zorglu_> jtholmes: search the website :)
[07:15] <zorglu_> !window
[07:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about window - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:15] <zorglu_> damn
[07:15] <zorglu_> ok trappist i wont apply your advice
[07:16] <zorglu_> trappist: this prevent me from helping people, i dont like it
[07:16] <jtholmes> zorglu_: i searched the wiki w/no hits  looks like some said to search bots will do
[07:16] <zorglu_> ok
[07:16] <intelikey> Arlington    line in /etc/X/xorg.conf    ***   Option          "XkbLayout"     "us" ***   from "us" to what ever.     you can set it from   sudo dpkg-recongifure -Plow xserver-xorg
[07:17] <intelikey> or just edit the file .
[07:17] <Arlington> yeah i've edited that now.
[07:17] <cpl-tnt44> is Kubuntu will be better for my old laptop computer over the regular ubuntu version ?
[07:17] <intelikey> changes take affect on x startup.
[07:17] <buz> cpl-tnt44: better in what respect
[07:17] <zorglu_> cpl-tnt44: kde use more resource that gnome, and gnome uses more than xfce, so up to you to see
[07:18] <buz> zorglu_: not wholly true
[07:18] <buz> you can customize kde to be muchlighter than the default is
[07:18] <raveesh> how do you change icons of shortcuts?
[07:18] <intelikey> zorglu_ i disagree with the resources claim
[07:18] <buz> afaik thats not su much the case with gnome
[07:18] <zorglu_> so what would you say ? that gnome uses more that kde ?
[07:19] <zorglu_> that xfce use more that gnome and kde ?
[07:19] <intelikey> zorglu_ my tests have shown gnome to have a biger foot print in ram than kde
[07:19] <buz> xfce uses less
[07:19] <buz> but gnome and kde are comparable
[07:19] <buz> (with kde doing more for the resources)
[07:19] <buz> with the possible exception of kmail which is damn resource hog
[07:19] <intelikey> if you want light weight.  use twm
[07:20] <intelikey> or go commando
[07:20] <intelikey> :)
[07:20] <zorglu_> hehe :) i only boot in single user :)
[07:20] <zorglu_> ok so lets help this guy then
[07:20] <cpl-tnt44> zorglu , thanks i'll check the ubuntu first ...
[07:20] <buz> cpl-tnt44: try the live cd maybe?
[07:21] <cpl-tnt44> buz , i installed from the live cd the ubuntu 6 ..
[07:21] <intelikey> zorglu_ why single ?     just remove the referance to the *dm in your desired runlevel.   no need to be in single user mode.
[07:21] <cpl-tnt44> laterst
[07:21] <buz> you can install kubuntu by doing sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:21] <buz> then you can switch between the two and compare
[07:22] <intelikey> buz or just install kde
[07:22] <cpl-tnt44> damn ... im getting an error failed to start Xserver ( your graphical interface ...blablabla ...) what should i do ?
[07:22] <intelikey> no conflicts that way.... or not as many
[07:22] <buz> conflicts? what conflicts
[07:22] <buz> i have both on my notebook, no issues whatsoever
[07:23] <cpl-tnt44> guyz .. i have a proble, with the install now ... can i get some attension plz
[07:23] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 depends on what the blablabla is
[07:23] <cpl-tnt44> "Failed to start the X Server ( your graphical interface) it is likely that it is not set up correctly . would you like to view the x server output to diagnose the problem "  *** just installed ubuntu on a desktop and moved the hdd back to the laptop and this is the messege i got .. how can i solve this ? ***
[07:23] <zorglu_> intelikey: nope in reality i ran unix only in tty up to 2001 and then switch to graphical. now i like it :)
[07:24] <zorglu_> cpl-tnt44: you can't move the hd like that :) all the hardward config from the laptop is different from the desktop one
[07:24] <intelikey> zorglu_ i used gui's up to 2k  hehhe
[07:24] <Joel-Wideman> Okay. I followed the instructions at those links. From the client kubuntu box, it sees the print server. Printing a test page, it says it was successfully sent. However, the test page doesn't print.
[07:24] <zorglu_> cpl-tnt44: this is what confuse the system
[07:24] <cpl-tnt44> zorglu_ : so in what step can i move the hdd ?
[07:24] <cpl-tnt44> zorglu_ , cant ubuntu adjust itself ?
[07:25] <zorglu_> cpl-tnt44: good question, the easiest would be to reinstall
[07:25] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:25] <zorglu_> cpl-tnt44: nope it cant
[07:25] <cpl-tnt44> zorglu_ : ok ... and not the easiest ?
[07:25] <cpl-tnt44> thank inte
[07:25] <intelikey> np
[07:25] <Arlington> aaaargh anyone who can help a swede with getting (at) and everyother third selection figure to work?!
[07:25] <intelikey> and i would call reconfiguring x easer than reinstalling
[07:25] <zorglu_> cpl-tnt44: would be to fix all the issue you would meet along the way, as intelikey give you
[07:26] <buz> Arlington: getting WHAT to work?
[07:26] <cpl-tnt44> he asks me to autodetect the graphical card should i click YES or NO ?
[07:26] <intelikey> zorglu_ there shouldn't be many issues.   reconfiguring the network and the xserver should about do it.
[07:27] <intelikey> yes
[07:27] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[07:27] <zorglu_> intelikey: cool then
[07:27] <zorglu_> !se
[07:27] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[07:27] <cpl-tnt44> card provider ... :??? compaq armada m300
[07:27] <zorglu_> Arlington: in case you are not aware of it
[07:27] <Arlington> i can't make @ signs.
[07:27] <igor> anybody knows a good website to get codecs???? i need the realplayer codecs
[07:28] <intelikey> O.O
[07:28] <Arlington> and if i get that to work i usually can't make usual letters...
[07:28] <intelikey> !realplayer
[07:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:29] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey , use kernal framebuffer device interface ?
[07:29] <intelikey> Arlington what does [shift of #2]   print ?
[07:29] <cpl-tnt44> yes or no ?
[07:29] <Arlington> "
[07:29] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 no
[07:29] <intelikey> Arlington hmmm interesting...
[07:30] <Arlington> well now mysteriously it works. i will dig and get back !
[07:30] <intelikey> Arlington did you set xorg to use your keyboard layout ?
[07:30] <igor> anybody knows a good website to get codecs???? i need the realplayer codecs
[07:30] <Arlington> yes of course.
[07:30] <cpl-tnt44> interlikey , rebooting , hold your fingers ...
[07:30] <buz> !restricted
[07:30] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:31] <igor> i'll see
[07:31] <Joel-Wideman> Also, the windows box says that I'm not authorized to use the printer on the kubuntu box. I did follow the steps in those instructions.
[07:31] <buz> spilt white powder on your keyboard or what
[07:31] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 just type startx
[07:32] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 no need to reboot to test it
[07:32] <cpl-tnt44> interlikey "interlikey , rebooting , hold your fingers ..." means i already did
[07:32] <intelikey> hehhe ok
[07:32] <cpl-tnt44> interlikey still problem presist
[07:33] <Joel-Wideman> !cups
[07:33] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[07:33] <intelikey> you didn't get something right. cpl-tnt44   compare  `lshw`   with the settings for the vidio card in your /etc/X/xorg.conf
[07:34] <cpl-tnt44> "startx" - is giving me an log screen ... at the end it says : Fatal server error : no screen found , XIO : fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer ) on X server ":0.0" after 0 requests ( 0 knows processed) with 0 events remaning .
[07:34] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 or pastebin the output of  lshw   and  cat /etc/X/xorg.conf
[07:35] <cpl-tnt44> lshw ( i dunno what it means or how to activate it ... plz be more specific since im new to linux )
[07:35] <intelikey> it's a command.
[07:35] <Joel-Wideman> Is the information in those documents incorrect for Kubuntu because the print server does NOT work following those directions?
[07:36] <intelikey>  you can redirrect the output to a file if need be so      lshw > output.file
[07:36] <Arlington> not to bardge in or anything but cpl.tnt44 what videocard do u use?
[07:37] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey , since my laptop dont have any outpot devices i would have to let it go ...
[07:37] <dinosaur-rus> uh, I won't install Kubuntu for several months
[07:37] <cpl-tnt44> cpltntn44 using ati rage 4 MB on his compaq armada M300
[07:37] <Arlington> !ati
[07:37] <intelikey> no output device ?
[07:37] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:37] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey - i only use external ...
[07:38] <rampage>  my amarok wont play
[07:38] <rampage>  help ?
[07:38] <Arlington> rampage: what happens?
[07:38] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 headless boxen   i C
[07:38] <rampage>  my amarok wont play mp3
[07:38] <cpl-tnt44> ubuntu 5 version worked well ... i dunno why i had to upgrade to 6
[07:38] <zorglu_> q. when people boot in recovery, what is the graphic mode use ? normal X drivers or does it fall back on fd ?
[07:38] <zorglu_> fd= fb= framebuffer
[07:38] <Arlington> cpl-tnt44: what driver did u select?
[07:38] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey , yeap
[07:39] <cpl-tnt44> ATI
[07:39] <rampage>  ???
[07:39] <mluser-laptop> could someone please let me know what file I need to edit to have certain kernel modules loaded at boot time?
[07:39] <zorglu_> !mp3
[07:39] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:39] <cpl-tnt44> lets do a step by step of the commands ?
[07:39] <Arlington> you should probably get the frglx driver.
[07:39] <rampage>  i know that stuff@ubotu
[07:39] <morghanphoenix> how do I set up ssh to let my girl access my hard drive from WinSCP?
[07:39] <cpl-tnt44> sudo d...reconfigure command ?
[07:39] <buz> mluser-laptop: /etc/modules
[07:40] <cpl-tnt44> found it sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:40] <rampage>  how can i play mp3 in amarok ?
[07:40] <zorglu_> morghanphoenix: just lets her login, the scp is on top of ssh
[07:40] <intelikey> zorglu_ i don't know  but it should be  vga=normal  if it's truely a "safe mode"   probably isn't.   look in the  /boot/grub/menu.lst  and see what it is
[07:40] <zorglu_> !mp3 > rampage
[07:40] <Arlington> you need to get thoose codecs we spoke about earlier.
[07:40] <Arlington> rampage:  !mp3
[07:40] <buz> morghanphoenix: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[07:40] <mluser-laptop> buz: thanks :)
[07:40] <buz> then maybe you have to start openssh
[07:40] <rampage> yup
[07:40] <rampage> help
[07:41] <intelikey> zorglu_ frame buffering should not be active in failsafe/recovery mode.
[07:41] <DaSkreech> morghanphoenix: as far I know you apt-get install openssh-server and then give her a login
[07:41] <buz> (out of personal experience i recommend to remove certain files first)
[07:41] <intelikey> it probably is in *butnu though.
[07:41] <zorglu_> intelikey: indead, it is only 'single + nosplash' for recovery, but nothing about graphic mode
[07:41] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey : ok step by step command ...
[07:41] <cpl-tnt44> Autodetect video driver ? YES NO ?
[07:41] <intelikey> no
[07:42] <morghanphoenix> Do I need to do anything with my router or should that not matter?
[07:42] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 switch tty's and run lshw on the same box and see what the name of the graphics card is.
[07:42] <intelikey> err headless.  nm.
[07:42] <morghanphoenix> openssh-server
[07:42] <zorglu_> morghanphoenix: she need to be able to reach your box. so up to you to see
[07:43] <buz> morghanphoenix: can oyu ping her?
[07:43] <morghanphoenix> yes, I can ping her
[07:43] <buz> then your network is fine
[07:43] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 i aint gonna play the headless game today.  ask someone else.
[07:43] <zorglu_> buz: that a optimistic view of network :)
[07:43] <morghanphoenix> do I need to set up opensshserer or is that doen allready?
[07:43] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey , can i make it run page by page so i can look at it ? like dir/w ?
[07:43] <zorglu_> !ssh
[07:43] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[07:43] <buz> if you apt-getted it, it's setup
[07:43] <zorglu_> morghanphoenix: have you read this page ?
[07:44] <morghanphoenix> Thanks
[07:44] <buz> you MIGHT need to start it
[07:44] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 yes   lshw | less
[07:44] <cpl-tnt44> thanks u .. that should solve it...
[07:44] <rampage>  help some 1 ?
[07:44] <rampage>   playing mp3s
[07:44] <Arlington> !mp3
[07:44] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:44] <rampage>  with amarok
[07:44] <rampage>  i have seen that
[07:45] <Arlington> tehn do what it say!
[07:45] <zorglu_> looks like the bot page no more satisfies users
[07:45] <Arlington> says
[07:45] <DaSkreech> buz: He shouldn't :)
[07:45] <buz> that usually works with amarok?!?
[07:45] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey , it doesnt show the graphical card...
[07:45] <Arlington> !repositories
[07:45] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:45] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey , it doesnt show the graphical card... nm !!!
[07:45] <Arlington> !daept
[07:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about daept - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:45] <buz> DaSkreech: who shouldnt do what?
[07:45] <Arlington> !adept
[07:45] <DaSkreech> rampage: install libxine-extracodecs
[07:45] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:45] <DaSkreech> buz: Have to start it
[07:45] <intelikey> zorglu_ back to the recovery mode   i can't use grub so i have nothing to look at.  but there may be a default  vga= in your menu.lst
[07:45] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 in the less filter hit   /vidio
[07:45] <buz> DaSkreech: i know i had to do it once
[07:46] <buz> but other times i didnt
[07:46] <buz> so checking cant hurt
[07:46] <DaSkreech> Warty? :)
[07:46] <zorglu_> intelikey: yep, thanks i think i will add it, just in case i need it. because it is not there
[07:46] <buz> hoary
[07:46] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey , DISPLAY : VGA compatible controller , PRODUCT : 3D Rage LT PRO , vendor : ATI ,physical id:5 bus info pci@00:05.0 version : dc
[07:46] <Arlington> rampage: PM
[07:46] <buz> or breezy
[07:46] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 less has built in search function  /<search-string>   for forword  and   ?<search_string>  for reverse search.
[07:47] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 yuch.... there's part of the problem.
[07:47] <intelikey> !ati
[07:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:47] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 try to just use the vesa driver and see if you can get x working that way.
[07:48] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey , mmm the problem is to move it back to the laptop witch is headless
[07:48] <Arlington> intelikey: it's not hard to get that driver!
[07:48] <Arlington> i did it.
[07:48] <cpl-tnt44> ok using the vesa driver is ?
[07:48] <buz> a headless laptop?
[07:48] <buz> now that sounds rather useless
[07:48] <cpl-tnt44> yeap
[07:48] <intelikey> Arlington getting it. no.  getting it to work without error.........
[07:48] <cpl-tnt44> headless but i can easy remove the HDD and connect it to a usb 2
[07:49] <Arlington> not hard for me anyway?
[07:49] <Arlington> if nothing else works you must try the hard routes...
[07:49] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey , how do i define the vesa ?
[07:49] <buz> cpl-tnt44: you could always install openssh-server ;)
[07:49] <cpl-tnt44> openssh-server ?
[07:49] <cpl-tnt44> expand on it ?
[07:50] <cpl-tnt44> btw how do i exit from the lshw command ?
[07:50] <buz> yeah access it over the net
[07:50] <buz> wait a minute, how are you using less without a screen?
[07:51] <cpl-tnt44> laptop , without output like Diskett drives or DVD drive and sort of like not a screan !!!
[07:51] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 please ask someone else.   i don't want to play the headless game....    in the first place you can't get xorg working on a headless box    not the server anyway.   and in the second place we probably aren't even speeking the same language which will only lead to more frustration.
[07:51] <cpl-tnt44> screen
[07:51] <morghanphoenix> okay, I don't see where it says what the host is, is it my IP or host name?
[07:51] <morghanphoenix> Keeps telling me the host doesn't exist.
[07:51] <cpl-tnt44> its not head less !!!
[07:51] <Arlington> cpl-tnt44:  headless as in graphics card
[07:52] <cpl-tnt44> Arlington , i can see something on the screen , how do u think i write the commands ?
[07:52] <buz> morghanphoenix: try the ip
[07:52] <intelikey> headless means no vidio-out
[07:52] <buz> without screen, one can do that you know
[07:53] <buz> bonus points for serial console ;)
[07:53] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey , i got u wrong i thought headless like in no output devices like cdrom , diskett drives or so ...
[07:53] <intelikey> buz hehhe cheeter
[07:53] <cpl-tnt44> not screen !
[07:53] <DaSkreech> morghanphoenix: can you putty in?
[07:53] <cpl-tnt44> i have a regular laptop its just dont have cdrom and diskett drives...
[07:53] <Arlington> intelikey cpl-tnt44: hahaha
[07:53] <buz> even more bonuspoints if the serial console is on the other end of the world using a portmaster ;)
[07:53] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 see  the second reason in the excuse above... ^
[07:53] <cpl-tnt44> :)
[07:54] <ninHer> hi all
[07:54] <cpl-tnt44> lol !... come on ...
[07:54] <cpl-tnt44> intelikey , im a computer tech guy but english is not my 1st language but i do speak it very well ...
[07:55] <cpl-tnt44> it should be an ez problem to solve...
[07:55] <intelikey> ok it's not headless.   we can do this then.     (takes a deep breath)
[07:55] <cpl-tnt44> ok ..
[07:55] <cpl-tnt44> im in lshw command ...
[07:55] <cpl-tnt44> how do i end it ?
[07:55] <buz> try q
[07:55] <cpl-tnt44> buz , thanks ...
[07:55] <DaSkreech> morghanphoenix: I assume client machine is Windows?
[07:55] <cpl-tnt44> ok now what ?
[07:56] <cpl-tnt44> X server problem ..
[07:56] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 for all future referances.  all commands will pertain only to the (headless) laptop with a display    ok ?
[07:56] <cpl-tnt44> the chip is ati ...
[07:56] <cpl-tnt44> lol offcourse !
[07:56] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[07:56] <cpl-tnt44> go
[07:56] <buz> morghanphoenix: can the client ping YOU?
[07:57] <intelikey> sudo nano /etc/X/xserver.xorg
[07:57] <morghanphoenix> yes, it can ping me.
[07:57] <cpl-tnt44> i got into a GNU nano 1.3.10 ?
[07:57] <DaSkreech> morghanphoenix: Can you putty in?
[07:57] <buz> uhm xorg.conf lives in /etc/X11/xorg.conf on dapper?!?
[07:58] <intelikey> scroll down to  Section "Device"
[07:58] <dinosaur-rus> buz: it should
[07:58] <cpl-tnt44> buz ,i dont think so bcz im in an edit screen ...
[07:58] <intelikey> buz yes ty.  sorry cpl-tnt44  X11
[07:58] <morghanphoenix> I got it to connect, but it's saying that it can't initialize SFTP
[07:58] <intelikey> sudo nano /etc/X11/xserver.xorg
[07:58] <intelikey> and scroll down to  Section "Device"
[07:58] <morghanphoenix> do I need to install something else on mine, or is the windows client set up wrong.
[07:58] <cpl-tnt44> ok how do i exit this screen ?
[07:58] <buz> morghanphoenix: check /etc/ssh/sshd_config if sftp-server is commented out
[07:58] <intelikey> that defines your vidio card
[07:59] <intelikey> the instructions are at the bottom of the screen
[07:59] <cpl-tnt44> inte , wait u got in an edit screen Exit = ^X
[07:59] <intelikey> yep
[07:59] <cpl-tnt44> ok !
[07:59] <cpl-tnt44> i got it
[07:59] <cpl-tnt44> now what
[08:00] <cpl-tnt44> sudo nano /etc/X11/xserver.xorg ?
[08:00] <intelikey> try it with the correct address ?   you there now ?
[08:00] <intelikey> yep
[08:00] <buz> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:01] <cpl-tnt44> aint working guyz !
[08:01] <buz> try mine
[08:01] <cpl-tnt44> give me a command that works...
[08:01] <cpl-tnt44> i tried !
[08:01] <DaSkreech> morghanphoenix: What client are you using?
[08:01] <intelikey> reposting  <intelikey> sudo nano /etc/X11/xserver.xorg
[08:02] <intelikey> oops
[08:02] <intelikey> i did say xserver  hah
[08:02] <morghanphoenix> only place it even says sftp is Subsystem sftp /usr/lib/openssh/sftp-server
[08:02] <intelikey> buz take over.
[08:02] <morghanphoenix> WinSCP
[08:02] <cpl-tnt44> Still !
[08:02] <cpl-tnt44> not working
[08:02] <cpl-tnt44> buz
[08:02] <buz> why arent we using dpkg-reconfigure anyway
[08:02] <DaSkreech> morghanphoenix: Hmm I've heard good things about that. I normally use Filezilla though
[08:02] <cpl-tnt44> lets use !
[08:02] <buz> sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:03] <cpl-tnt44> nope .. still get me to the edit screen
[08:03] <morghanphoenix> it was the reccomendation in the windows irc channel
[08:03] <buz> cpl-tnt44: that's the point
[08:03] <intelikey> cpl-tnt44 nano is a text editor
[08:03] <buz> morghanphoenix: winscp is fine
[08:03] <cpl-tnt44> ok ...
[08:04] <cpl-tnt44> so it worked fine ?
[08:04] <DaSkreech> morghanphoenix: What error are you getting?
[08:04] <buz> morghanphoenix: the sftp line isn't commented out?
[08:04] <intelikey> scroll down to the section that defines your vidio card.
[08:04] <cpl-tnt44> but im getting to an empty text editor with nothing says on it
[08:04] <morghanphoenix> the line I coppied? No
[08:04] <buz> no wonder your X doesnt work
[08:04] <buz> without configuration it would have a hard time
[08:04] <intelikey> change the driver to vesa     check with buz that i spelled correctly
[08:05] <cpl-tnt44> how do i change the driver to vesa ?
[08:05] <morghanphoenix> cannot initialize sftp protocol.
[08:05] <cpl-tnt44> dpkg ?
[08:05] <buz> yeah you could try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:05] <DaSkreech> morghanphoenix: Can WinSCP configure which version of ssh it is using?
[08:06] <cpl-tnt44> so lets...
[08:06] <morghanphoenix> it asks 1 or 2
[08:06] <morghanphoenix> Default 2
[08:07] <DaSkreech> That should be right then
[08:08] <morghanphoenix> It's okay that the user login for her has no home directory, right? I mean she doesn't use my computer.
[08:09] <DaSkreech> morghanphoenix: Erm... so when she sftps in what directory does it drop her into?
[08:09] <morghanphoenix> mine
[08:10] <morghanphoenix> I'm trying to give her files from my home directory.
[08:11] <buz> her user DOES need a home dir
[08:11] <buz> otherwise sftp wont work
[08:12] <mark_> Anyone help with sound problem? No audio, not even system sounds, all Kmix settings are up full but nowt comes from speakers???
[08:13] <DaSkreech> morghanphoenix: so she logs in with your username and passwd?
[08:13] <morghanphoenix> no, her user name to my home directory
[08:17] <morghanphoenix> So, I gave her user a home directory and tried logging in to it, smae error message.
[08:17] <morghanphoenix> server sent command exit status 1.
[08:18] <morghanphoenix> should I try using my login?
[08:18] <mark_> I just get a buzz when I use the scroll wheel on the mouse and I laso here a click when I press keys on the keyboard. Any ideas please???
[08:18] <buz> you could
[08:19] <buz> but i dont think it will help
[08:20] <morghanphoenix> Worked with my log in
[08:20] <morghanphoenix> that was wierd
[08:20] <buz> ok that IS weird
[08:21] <morghanphoenix> maybe because I'm logged in on this computer?
[08:22] <morghanphoenix> That's all I can think of.
[08:23] <morghanphoenix> But thanks, it's working now.
[08:23] <solemnwarning> When edgy stable gonna be released?
[08:26] <DaSkreech> !schedule > solemnwarning
[08:27] <alfadar> hi, I need to joining a kubuntu Workstation to a Windows NT4 Domain, somebody can indicate some documents to read?
[08:27] <DaSkreech> Did they ever sort out that Korroa Lawsuit?
[08:28] <zorglu_> !samba
[08:28] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:28] <zorglu_> alfadar: the above link it for you
[08:31] <alfadar> ok zorglu_
[08:31] <alfadar> Thank you zorglu_ and ubotu :)
[08:31] <zorglu_> :)
[08:36] <sYnie> Hey there. Does anyone know a little tool to convert VCD to MPEG?
[08:36] <buz> vcd IS mpeg
[08:37] <sYnie> but i'll get errors when i try to view the *.dat file
[08:37] <buz> view in what
[08:37] <sYnie> mplayer, vlc, ...
[08:38] <buz> mhh should work in vlc
[08:38] <DaSkreech> Is Edgy shipping with k3b 1?
[08:38] <buz> can you play the vcd in vlc?
[08:38] <zorglu_> !info k3b edgy
[08:38] <ubotu> k3b: A sophisticated KDE CD burning application. In component main, is optional. Version 0.12.17-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 3975 kB, installed size 8432 kB
[08:38] <buz> DaSkreech: i think i saw it running on my box once
[08:38] <sYnie> yes
[08:38] <buz> mhh must have been wrong then ;)
[08:38] <zorglu_> DaSkreech: not currently :)
[08:38] <DaSkreech> Ok :)
[08:39] <DaSkreech> I hope the new basket gets in at some point
[08:39] <sYnie> [00000265]  access_file access error: read failed (Input/output error) <-- VLC says
[08:39] <buz> DaSkreech: it's nice
[08:39] <buz> although i dont agree with the kontact integration 100%
[08:39] <DaSkreech> You are using the SVN version?
[08:39] <DaSkreech> buz: can't you opt out of that?
[08:39] <buz> snapshots from the tarball yes
[08:39] <buz> DaSkreech: yes
[08:39] <DaSkreech> Problem solved :)
[08:39] <buz> if you compile it and kdepim-dev isnt installed it wont be integrated
[08:40] <buz> DaSkreech: it's simple to build, actually
[08:41] <DaSkreech> buz: Hmm no after installation opt out?
[08:41] <DaSkreech> That's not kool
[08:41] <buz> sudo apt-get build-dep kdepim and you got everything (most likely much more but who cares) than you need
[08:41] <buz> not sure
[08:41] <buz> maybe you can remove the shared lib
[08:41] <DaSkreech> hey aseigo
[08:42] <jessica_> #kubuntu.de
[08:42] <buz> the master himself
[08:42] <aseigo> hoi
[08:42] <jessica_> oh...
[08:42] <jessica_> i#m sorry
[08:42] <jessica_> '
[08:42] <jessica_> lol
[08:42] <zorglu_> no harm done :)
[08:42] <jessica_> wie geht das nochmal?
[08:42] <buz> jessica_: /join #kubuntu.de
[08:42] <cpl-tnt44> buz
[08:43] <cpl-tnt44> hey remember me ?
[08:43] <jessica_> ahh...
[08:43] <buz> yes
[08:43] <jessica_> thank you!
[08:43] <cpl-tnt44> i took a little break off this ...
[08:43] <buz> kein problem
[08:43] <zorglu_> !de
[08:43] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:43] <cpl-tnt44> reinstalled the ubuntu 6 and still problem presist
[08:43] <cpl-tnt44> we need to reconfigure the server X ...
[08:43] <buz> what card have you actually got
[08:44] <jessica_> buz kannst du etwa deutsch??
[08:44] <cpl-tnt44> its an old laptop ati rage
[08:44] <zorglu_> jessica_: it is a '-' :) and you can click on the #kubuntu-de directly if you are using konversation to irc
[08:44] <jessica_> oh...
[08:44] <jessica_> im sorry
[08:44] <buz> my bad
[08:44] <jessica_> thank you!!
[08:45] <cpl-tnt44> zorglu_ , remember me u said something about u cant install ubuntu 6 on a desktop computer and move the hdd back to the laptop ?
[08:45] <buz> actually you can
[08:45] <cpl-tnt44> really ?
[08:45] <cpl-tnt44> thats what i did now buz
[08:45] <buz> sure, it's not windows
[08:45] <Mo-Z> is runescape playable in linux?
[08:45] <cpl-tnt44> yeah but now i came to this server X error
[08:45] <cpl-tnt44> and it cant be solved..
[08:45] <buz> yeah well you'll likely have to reconfigure x
[08:46] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[08:46] <cpl-tnt44> sodu ?
[08:46] <buz> try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:46] <cpl-tnt44> sudo ?
[08:46] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[08:46] <cpl-tnt44> thanks
[08:46] <cpl-tnt44> lets step by step this
[08:46] <zorglu_> cpl-tnt44: some misunderstanding here :) i said the easiest would be to reinstall. or you could fix the issue as you meet them
[08:46] <buz> pretty self explanatory really
[08:46] <zorglu_> cpl-tnt44: and you choosed the second solution
[08:47] <cpl-tnt44> zorglu my bad u right !
[08:47] <MasterEvilAce> HURRAY! Kubuntu update gave me a usplash again. It's not centered though.. how do I fix that?
[08:47] <cpl-tnt44> but i wonder why in ubuntu 5 the transmission worked smooth while in 6 it come to some problems
[08:48] <romin> how i can install firefox with tar.gz ?
[08:48] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[08:48] <cpl-tnt44> buz
[08:48] <cpl-tnt44> lets continue
[08:48] <zorglu_> romin: elaborate
[08:49] <cpl-tnt44> autodetect video hardware /yes/no ?
[08:49] <buz> try yes
[08:49] <miguel> alguien habla espaol?
[08:49] <zorglu_> !es
[08:49] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:49] <romin> anybody can help me ?
[08:50] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[08:50] <cpl-tnt44> it writes ati ...
[08:50] <cpl-tnt44> witch is ok
[08:50] <cpl-tnt44> which is ok
[08:50] <zorglu_> romin: the first step to get help, is to explain the problem you are trying to solve
[08:50] <JacksLivr> miguel hablo un poco espanol
[08:50] <zorglu_> romin: hence my 'elaborate' :)
[08:51] <Hawkwind> !es
[08:51] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:51] <cpl-tnt44> he wants the amount of memory in kb to be used by your video card ...
[08:51] <cpl-tnt44> buz ^^^^
[08:51] <buz> leave it empty
[08:51] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[08:51] <cpl-tnt44> kernal framebuffer ?
[08:51] <cpl-tnt44> yes or no ?
[08:51] <JacksLivr> miguel: que is su problema?
[08:51] <buz> just hit enter until you come to the screen configuration
[08:51] <zorglu_> JacksLivr: miguel: please go in #kubuntu-es to speak in spanish
[08:52] <JacksLivr> sorry, was just trying to help him
[08:52] <cpl-tnt44> ok i never some to this
[08:52] <JacksLivr> zorglu_: not trying to offend, just trying to help
[08:52] <cpl-tnt44> he is asking me now Would you like to view the detailed X server output as well ?
[08:52] <cpl-tnt44> hit yes or no ?
[08:52] <buz> why did it start x just now?
[08:52] <cpl-tnt44> buz ?
[08:52] <buz> no
[08:53] <miguel> gracias
[08:53] <zorglu_> JacksLivr: it is cool, the issue is just this channel is english speaking, you can help him in #kubuntu-es without problem
[08:53] <miguel> para empezar como cambio de canal??
[08:53] <miguel> ya tengo una pestaa abierta con #kubuntu-es
[08:53] <cpl-tnt44> now it says ... The X server is now diabled . Restart GDM when it is configured correctly
[08:53] <buz> DaSkreech: actually it seems you can use basket standalone even if its compiled for kontact
[08:53] <miguel> pero nadie me contesta
[08:53] <DaSkreech> buz: well yeah :)
[08:53] <cpl-tnt44> is it ok
[08:53] <JacksLivr> i'll PM him
[08:53] <cpl-tnt44> ?
[08:53] <DaSkreech> Kontact is an app aggregator
[08:54] <buz> mhh
[08:54] <buz> doesnt sound very good, cpl-tnt44
[08:54] <cpl-tnt44> ok ..
[08:54] <cpl-tnt44> retry ?
[08:54] <buz> if x cant configure itself, there's likely some hardware it gets confused by
[08:54] <cpl-tnt44> or there is more to it?
[08:54] <buz> no that works with my ati card
[08:54] <cpl-tnt44> which cant be redefined ?
[08:54] <buz> what chip is in there?
[08:55] <cpl-tnt44> Rage
[08:55] <buz> DaSkreech: i can tar you up the built sources if you like
[08:55] <miguel> jackslivr_ tengo que registrar mi nick cada vez que incie session, ya recibi tu mensaje en privado, pero no te puedo contestar
[08:55] <buz> hmm
[08:55] <buz> not even sure if thats supported by the ati driver, really
[08:56] <cpl-tnt44> naaa the ubuntu 5 took the card why the 6 cant ?
[08:56] <buz> different versions of xorg
[08:56] <buz> maybe you need another driver, who knows
[08:56] <cpl-tnt44> mmm
[08:56] <cpl-tnt44> can i upgrade from 5 to 6 ?
[08:56] <buz> i'm not exactly x expert myself
[08:56] <buz> sure
[08:56] <cpl-tnt44> without a CD !!!
[08:56] <buz> sure
[08:56] <cpl-tnt44> bcz i dont have cd rom
[08:57] <zorglu_> JacksLivr: or you can join #kubuntu-es :)
[08:57] <buz> !upgrade
[08:57] <ubotu> Upgrading, please see the instructions on: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[08:57] <cpl-tnt44> in this laptop
[08:57] <buz> neither have i
[08:57] <cpl-tnt44> can i install ubuntu from the hdd without a cd rom ?
[08:57] <zorglu_> !netboot
[08:57] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[08:57] <buz> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[08:58] <buz> thats how i install kubuntu on my notebook
[08:58] <cpl-tnt44> mmm
[08:58] <cpl-tnt44> i have a network card in the laptop
[08:58] <cpl-tnt44> can i use it to boot ?
[08:58] <zorglu_> buz: the bot used to answer this page... the page of the bot are to general now...
[08:58] <PiR> hi
[08:58] <buz> depends
[08:58] <cpl-tnt44> u mean PXE ?
[08:58] <PiR> i've a program whose his name is stellarium
[08:59] <buz> zorglu_: i had used the page last night
[08:59] <buz> so it was still in my history
[08:59] <buz> cpl-tnt44: yes
[08:59] <PiR> and i wanna take screen shots
[08:59] <zorglu_> buz: ok
[08:59] <PiR> but i don't know how
[08:59] <rampage>  where can i get libc6 (>= 2.4-1) for installing libxine-extracodecs
[08:59] <PiR> someone can help me ?
[08:59] <zorglu_> PiR: press the 'print' key
[08:59] <buz> PiR: alt-f2 -> ksnapshot
[08:59] <rampage>  help ??
[09:00] <PiR> ok thanks
[09:00] <zorglu_> !info libc6
[09:00] <ubotu> libc6: GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data. In component main, is required. Version 2.3.6-0ubuntu20 (dapper), package size 4480 kB, installed size 9932 kB
[09:00] <zorglu_> rampage: you get it there
[09:00] <rampage>  but my amarok wont play unless libxine-extracodecs installed
[09:01] <buz> rampage: how about sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodeds?
[09:01] <rampage>  libxine has these dependiencies
[09:02] <rampage>  it say
[09:02] <rampage> (Reading database ... 67107 files and directories currently installed.)
[09:02] <rampage> Unpacking libxine1c2 (from .../libxine1c2_1.1.1+ubuntu1-2_amd64.deb) ...
[09:02] <rampage> Selecting previously deselected package libxine-extracodecs.
[09:02] <zorglu_> !pastebin
[09:02] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:02] <rampage> Unpacking libxine-extracodecs (from .../libxine-extracodecs_1.1.1+ubuntu1-2_amd64.deb) ...
[09:02] <rampage> Preparing to replace libxine-extracodecs 1.1.1+ubuntu1-2 (using .../libxine-extracodecs_1.1.2-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb) ...
[09:02] <rampage> Unpacking replacement libxine-extracodecs ...
[09:02] <rampage> More than one copy of package libxine-extracodecs has been unpacked
[09:02] <rampage>  in this run !  Only configuring it once.
[09:02] <zorglu_> rampage: the pastebin is done for that.
[09:02] <rampage> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libxine-extracodecs:
[09:02] <rampage>  libxine-extracodecs depends on libc6 (>= 2.4-1); however:
[09:02] <rampage>   Version of libc6 on system is 2.3.6-0ubuntu20.
[09:02] <rampage> dpkg: error processing libxine-extracodecs (--install):
[09:02] <rampage>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[09:03] <PiR> 'print' for screen shot -> no
[09:04] <frojnd> hello there
[09:04] <PiR> and ALT+F2 do nothings
[09:04] <rampage>  plz look at these http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/25517/
[09:04] <fdoving> PiR: kmenu -> run command
[09:04] <fdoving> !paste > rampage
[09:04] <PiR> and ?
[09:04] <PiR> ok
[09:04] <fdoving> PiR: that equals to alt+f2.
[09:05] <rampage>  thse what i get when apt-get libxine-extracodecs
[09:05] <zorglu_> PiR: you seems to have issue with your keyboard configuration. or you had modified it
[09:05] <zorglu_> PiR: those keys are setup by default on kubuntu
[09:05] <PiR> but i've not the kmenu in the screen
[09:05] <zorglu_> Pi
[09:05] <zorglu_> PiR: no big K on the bottom left ?
[09:05] <rampage>  so help ??
[09:05] <frojnd> what can I do to open link which include streaming: Firefox doesn't know how to open this adress, becouse the protocol (mms) isn't associated with any program
[09:05] <PiR> stellarium is a program which take total place in the screen
[09:06] <rampage>  some help ^_^
[09:06] <PiR> screenfull program (i believe we says it)
[09:07] <zorglu_> PiR: oh ok, the term is 'fullscreen'
[09:07] <PiR> ok thanks (i'm french sorry)
[09:07] <zorglu_> PiR: np, me too :)
[09:07] <PiR> lol
[09:07] <rampage>  help ??? on amarok plz
[09:07] <cpl-tnt44> BUZ BUZ !
[09:07] <cpl-tnt44> BUz !
[09:08] <cpl-tnt44> its working !!!!
[09:08] <buz> congrats
[09:08] <cpl-tnt44> u wont belive what i did !
[09:08] <cpl-tnt44> i used the recovery consol
[09:08] <rampage>  ???
[09:08] <cpl-tnt44> and did what u said about the screen configuration
[09:08] <sYnie> i tried to copy a file from CD to my harddrive. but i always get a "Input/Output error"... what could this be ?
[09:08] <DaSkreech> rampage: what command did you use to install?
[09:08] <cpl-tnt44> and ubuntu is up !!!
[09:08] <DaSkreech> sYnie: BaD Cd?
[09:08] <cpl-tnt44> now lets restart to chk if it works
[09:09] <fdoving> rampage: looks like your sources.list entries don't match your current kubuntu version
[09:09] <sYnie> @DaSkreech it's a VCD and I can play it via VLC
[09:09] <rampage> might be
[09:09] <PiR> zorglu_ : if you know, can you please connect in kubuntu-fr me to explain ?
[09:09] <rampage> how to change them
[09:09] <DaSkreech> sYnie: try to dd it
[09:09] <Homer> will edgy eft has KDE 3.5.4?
[09:09] <buz> Homer: yes
[09:09] <buz> already has
[09:09] <knithx> Hi!
[09:09] <fdoving> rampage: what kubuntu version do you have?
[09:09] <zorglu_> PiR: "sleep 5 && ksnapshot" in a terminal and you got 5sec to switch to the stellariem screen :)
[09:09] <rampage> 6.06
[09:09] <buz> you can use kde 3.5.4 with dapper if you want
[09:10] <xav33> sex
[09:10] <knithx> Can anyone send me /usr/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers/kubuntu-panel.png???
[09:10] <knithx> Please
[09:10] <rampage>  ???
[09:10] <DaSkreech> rampage: what command did you use to install this?
[09:10] <buz> thinking of it, i should upgrade kde myself
[09:10] <sYnie> dd says the same: "Input/Output error"
[09:10] <rampage> dpkg -i /root/Desktop/m/*.deb
[09:11] <DaSkreech> rampage: do you have two libxine debs on the Desktop?
[09:11] <knithx> Excuse me, can anyone upload /usr/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers/kubuntu-panel.png to www.imageshack.us for me?
[09:11] <rampage>  that was the command
[09:11] <Homer> yeah I heard khtml got improved in 3.5.4
[09:11] <buz> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-354.php
[09:11] <DaSkreech> rampage: do you have two libxine-extracodes.deb files on the desktop
[09:12] <rampage> libxine1c2_1.1.1+ubuntu1-2_amd64.deb
[09:12] <rampage> libxine-extracodecs_1.1.1+ubuntu1-2_amd64.deb
[09:12] <rampage> libxine-extracodecs_1.1.2-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[09:12] <DaSkreech> !
[09:12] <rampage>  these 3 files
[09:12] <DaSkreech> rampage: mv the 1.1.1 deb to a new folder
[09:12] <rampage>  ok
[09:13] <DaSkreech> rampage: No wait!!
[09:13] <DaSkreech> The 1.1.2
[09:13] <rampage>  ??
[09:13] <DaSkreech> mv that one out leave the 1.1.1 on the desktop
[09:13] <DaSkreech> then run the command again
[09:14] <rampage>  which 1.1.1 ? i have 2 files
[09:14] <soulrider> anyone here good with networks ?
[09:14] <knithx> Excuse me, can anyone upload /usr/share/apps/kicker/wallpapers/kubuntu-panel.png to www.imageshack.us for me?
[09:15] <cpl-tnt44> buz
[09:16] <cpl-tnt44> i have one more issue to solve
[09:16] <soulrider> http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4025/kubuntupanelyw6.png
[09:16] <buz> what
[09:16] <cpl-tnt44> my wireless network on a pcmcia card
[09:16] <buz> !wireless
[09:16] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:16] <cpl-tnt44> ok thanks i hope it helps
[09:17] <rampage> help
[09:17] <cpl-tnt44> if im using a laptop i should go into this section : WifiDocs/WirelessLaptopInternetAccessPoint ???
[09:17] <buz> no idea
[09:17] <buz> my wireless always works
[09:17] <cpl-tnt44> ok
[09:19] <Homer> does wine work pretty well these days?
[09:23] <grothesk> Hi!
[09:23] <grothesk> How do I set up a certain soundcard as the default one?
[09:25] <caseyomah> Homer: That is an unfair question. it works for most basic M$ programs, but many DirectX and "Disc ID" programs fail.
[09:25] <fdoving> grothesk: check this out: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76978.html
[09:26] <grothesk> fdoving: thx!
[09:26] <zorglu_> caseyomah: what is 'disc id' ?
[09:26] <caseyomah> That's what I call them.
[09:26] <caseyomah> Programs (mainly games) that do original disc checking.
[09:26] <fdoving> grothesk: not sure it's up2date, but it can be helpfull anyway.
[09:26] <zorglu_> caseyomah: ah ok thanks
[09:27] <caseyomah> Examples I've seen: Diablo series, 7th Guest series.
[09:27] <fdoving> grothesk: there is also http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=48385
[09:29] <caseyomah> I personally prefer Gaim to Kopete because of Kopete's adhering to the rule of "You cannot add yourself to your contact list"
[09:29] <Nookie^> caseyomah: and why do u want to add your self to contact list?
[09:30] <jeff_> Hi, all
[09:30] <caseyomah> Nookie^: I make a Status group and add myself so I can see if the "program status" matches the "network status" I have seen times (on other messengers) when they don't.
[09:30] <Homer> caseyomah: yeah that annoys the hell out of me
[09:31] <jeff_> I've got an issue with mythtv running on a Virtual Machine, not making any connection to a remote mysql server, even though I can make the same connection using mysql from the CL.
[09:31] <Homer> not just you can't add yourself to the contact list, it has to remind you everytime
[09:31] <Homer> You can not add yourself to the contact list!
[09:31] <caseyomah> That too. :)
[09:31] <Homer> with no way to remove yourself
[09:31] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm retarted
[09:31] <Homer> unless you use gaim of course lol
[09:32] <caseyomah> Right.
[09:32] <Admiral_Chicago> i just messed up two different envelopes writing an address
[09:32] <caseyomah> Does Kopete support meta-contacts?
[09:34] <grothesk> caseyomah: Yes, it does.
[09:34] <cpl-tnt44> im fresh to ubuntu can some 1 plz tell me how to install ndiswrapper on a computer with no internet connection ?
[09:34] <cpl-tnt44> buz
[09:35] <caseyomah> Okay, so just the "can't add yourself" balances against A/V features...
[09:36] <buz> no idea
[09:36] <DaSkreech> !wireless
[09:36] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:36] <buz> !ndiswwrapper
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ndiswwrapper - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <buz> !ndiswrapper
[09:36] <caseyomah> BTW: I have a Dell USB Hub Keyboard. I was wondering how to get the multimedia keys working (if possible)
[09:36] <DaSkreech> When does the MP3 patent expire?
[09:36] <caseyomah> 2100?
[09:37] <cpl-tnt44> !ndiswrapper
[09:37] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:37] <caseyomah> DaSkreech: The year 2100?
[09:37] <DaSkreech> caseyomah: When was it filed?
[09:38] <caseyomah> DaSkreech: I don't know, I'm just being a jerk because patents aren't being used the way they were intended.
[09:38] <DaSkreech> Yeah but would be nice to know when Distros can ship with mP3 support
[09:38] <soulrider> i heard that mp3 will be free in 2 years or soemthign like that
[09:38] <cpl-tnt44> !wiki
[09:38] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[09:38] <DaSkreech>  Though I think that we shouldjust make .ogg kill .mp3
[09:39] <DaSkreech> soulrider: Where?
[09:39] <soulrider> uhm
[09:39] <soulrider> here actually
[09:39] <soulrider> someone said it
[09:39] <soulrider> cant remember who
[09:39] <caseyomah> DaSkreech: Patents are supposed to "buy" the patent subject into the public domain after a number of years.
[09:39] <Hawkwind> soulrider: I added all the wallpapers to http://SeerOfSouls.com/gallery  today
[09:39] <zorglu_> DaSkreech: http://www.mp3licensing.com/patents/index.html for each different countries
[09:39] <soulrider> AWESOME!
[09:40] <soulrider> Hawkwind: i stil got a Sh**load to upload
[09:40] <octan> DaSkreech 75 years after it was patended
[09:40] <soulrider> but i got a slow connection, plus, i need my connection
[09:40] <soulrider> hopefuly i cna do it in a few weeks
[09:40] <Hawkwind> soulrider: You should put them in a seperate directory somewhere so I can download just those and not the whole thing again :)
[09:41] <soulrider> uhm
[09:41] <soulrider> the thing is i dont know which i uploaded lol
[09:41] <soulrider> im sucha  atrd
[09:41] <soulrider> what we could do is
[09:41] <caseyomah> lol @ soulrider
[09:41] <soulrider> i can go on uploading them to tks server
[09:41] <DaSkreech> octan: That's the date it was granted not the date it was filed?
[09:41] <soulrider> and then
[09:41] <octan> yea granted
[09:41] <soulrider> you can sort them by date
[09:41] <soulrider> and just downlaod hte ones you want
[09:42] <soulrider> which are the latest
[09:42] <fdoving> hint, #kubuntu-offtopic.
[09:42] <soulrider> **rolls eyes**
[09:42] <caseyomah> Okay, I have a kubuntu (KDE) specific issue...
[09:42] <fdoving> caseyomah: shoot.
[09:42] <cpl-tnt44> someone , guide me through the steps of installing wireless pcmcia card  please ? (wireless guides are for more advanced users ...)
[09:43] <caseyomah> I wonder if anyone knows what the %a...%z are set to in "Storage Media" in System Settings. (The media autoplay)
[09:44] <JohnFlux_> hey
[09:44] <caseyomah> Yes JohnFlux_?
[09:46] <bytech> Hi all. I just loaded Kubuntu on one of my desktops this morning. First time to view and navigate this OS. Can someone tell me the best way to check for updates and add programs like Mozilla Firefox and etc. etc.
[09:46] <caseyomah> ...Or failing a list, is there a way to like echo a list of current values to screen?
[09:47] <caseyomah> "Add/Remove Programs"
[09:47] <soulrider> bytech: you can use add/remove programs
[09:47] <soulrider> it will automatically get them form the internet :)
[09:47] <bytech> Let me check it out
[09:48] <bytech> I just sat down behind the machine 10 minutes ago
[09:48] <DaSkreech> bytech: Also you will have a little Orange blob thing with a Warning Sign on it in your System tray if you have updates
[09:48] <caseyomah> Updates (Really Upgrades) are auto-checked and you get a notification area icon when there are newer versions available.
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> bytech, or use Adept Manager
[09:49] <soulrider> yup
[09:49] <soulrider> thats another alternative
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> you might want to check out easy ubuntu too...
[09:49] <Admiral_Chicago> !easyubuntu > bytech
[09:50] <DaSkreech> bytech: Have you used LInux before?
[09:52] <JohnFlux_> caseyomah: my wife just mucking around..
[09:53] <bytech> Played with a few distros here and there
[09:55] <bytech> DaSkreech: Been using Kanotix for 3 or 4 months now as a primary machine
[09:55] <DaSkreech> bytech: Ok so you don't need too much "we are not windows" speech
[09:56] <bytech> No, I already prefer Linux over Windows
[09:58] <morghanphoenix> How do you change the icon for the K menu?
[09:59] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:59] <DaSkreech> Hello
[09:59] <bytech> DaSkreech: Just a matter of making the conversion and getting use to the basics of Linux and then going from there
[10:00] <morghanphoenix> is there a channel for KDE customization?
[10:00] <DaSkreech> #kde ?
[10:00] <DaSkreech> morghanphoenix: it's a file that you swap out I think
[10:00] <DaSkreech> bytech: Found adept and add/remove ok?
[10:01] <morghanphoenix> I saw that in the manual, but I followed the instructions and it didn't change.
[10:02] <DaSkreech> #kde would be a good place to hang out. Someone who knows more might answer you on here as well
[10:05] <bytech> DaSkreech: yep found both and checked out EasyUbuntu page as well. Just a matter of getting a little more in depth when I got some time.
[10:05] <gupta> Is  "tar  -cf  services.tar /etc/rc*" good enough to backup services start/disabled state??
[10:06] <DaSkreech> gupta: try /etc/rc*/*
[10:07] <bytech> Thanks for the help. Be back later
[10:07] <gupta> DaSkreech: Oh the tar command works
[10:07] <DaSkreech> bye bytech
[10:08] <gupta> I was wonering if that was all that is required for backing up
[10:08] <gupta> services state
[10:08] <bytech> c
[10:09] <ace> can someone help explan to me how I can uninstall programs that were already installed when I installed ubuntu and the kubuntu desktop?
[10:10] <DaSkreech> ace: You can remove them with adept or apt-get remove <package name>
[10:10] <ace> anyone?
[10:10] <ace> well then i tried adapt it said it was going to uninstall kubuntu too
[10:11] <DaSkreech> Which Kubuntu?
[10:11] <DaSkreech> kubuntu-desktop?
[10:11] <ace> idk let me try it again but i think so
[10:11] <ace> and i installed the kubuntu desktop when i was in ubuntu
[10:11] <ace> if that helps