[05:19] <bcbc2> http://ark.intel.com/products/27462/ says 64bit
[05:19] <Mewtini> this is saying that the Intel Pentiums that are marked with an F in its name (e.g. Pentium 4 3.0F) are 64bit
[05:19] <switching> intel pentium 4 processor 524
[05:20] <switching> 0.0 intel website says 64bit
[05:20] <Mewtini> oh
[05:20] <Mewtini> well, then this forum thread is misinformed. :|
[05:20] <Mewtini> sorry!
[05:20] <switching> no problem
[05:21] <switching> so any other pluses to 64 bit besides ram that i cannot hold?
[05:21] <Mewtini> but yeah either way if wubi's trying to install a 64bit I'd trust it more than I'd trust shaky evidence :x
[05:21] <deckard> i have installed xfce but the bottom part of my game is covered with a blue bar
[05:21] <SIFTU> switching: you can get a slight performance boost with 64 bit
[05:21] <Mewtini> I've heard that it runs faster than 32bit on 64bit.
[05:22] <deckard> ty SIFTU , it is nice desktop
[05:22] <switching> siftu hooray!
[05:22] <Mewtini> 64bit with 64bit's supposed to be faster??
[05:22] <switching> commence torrent of 64bit
[05:23] <Mewtini> kvothetech: so 64bit would run okay with my 2GB RAM?
[05:24] <switching> mewtini let's hope so
[05:24] <SIFTU> Mewtini: yeah it will run, just use more memory
[05:24] <Mewtini> hmm
[05:24] <Mewtini> I'm just worried because this computer is just. really slow
[05:24] <kvothetech> Mewtini: yes and i'll buy you might usea slight amount less but not 30 percent until someone shows me two systems side by side with EXACTLY the same setup hardware etc and only diff 32/64
[05:24] <Mewtini> even on Xubuntu
[05:24] <Mewtini> really slow
[05:25] <Korekame> performance differences between 64 and 32 bit systems differs on an application by application basis. Somethings are better optimized than others. Also, just because 64-bit can address more resources, doesn't mean you need them.
[05:25] <Mewtini> Heck, even Lubuntu. >>
[05:25] <Mewtini> hm
[05:25] <SIFTU> kvothetech: do it yourself, this is common knowledge
[05:25] <Mewtini> I'll keep that in mind, then!
[05:25] <Korekame> Lubuntu uses less memory than Xubuntu in my experience.
[05:25] <Mewtini> Yes, I know. Or well, it's supposed to.
[05:25] <kvothetech> siftu i am.
[05:25] <Korekame> of course, that all depends on what you're doing with it.
[05:26] <Mewtini> It's just that I have a terrible computer somehow.
[05:26] <Mewtini> It's a Lenovo Thinkpad W500, I think. Or maybe R500.
[05:26] <Mewtini> Either way they're supposed to be decent computers! >>
[05:27] <Korekame> I wouldn't know. I've not had much experience with Lenovo systems.
[05:27] <ramon> in a proscess of upgrading my system from precise 12.10 to 13.04 i got a failed message from sdk1
[05:28] <switching> mewtini i have an entry level emachines from 2006.
[05:28] <ramon> that could be a corrupted memory?
[05:28] <DragonRift> so Ubuntu is detecting my cpu as Core I7 920XM so the lag is not my cpu
[05:29] <DragonRift> when I right click on my desktop, it takes 1M 18S for the menu to appear
[05:30] <bogor> How do i mount a ubuntu partition in windows over network ? Is installing and configuring samba the only way out. Is there anything like sshfs in windows ?
[05:30] <Korekame> DragonRift, I'd reboot, and select the memory checker from the boot menu, rather than the OS, make sure your RAM is in good shape.
[05:30] <Kb8wlu> how do i edit the grub dual boot screen to edit what it says their?
[05:31] <Korekame> Worst case scenario, you got bugged ram, and need to replace it. Best case, you eliminate it as an issue.
[05:32] <Korekame> bogor, you can get nfs utils for Windows, I'm not sure about sshfs
[05:32] <bogor> Korekame: is it included in windows or do i get it from internet ?
[05:32] <Korekame> bogor, you could try winscp to access a filesystem over ssh ( or use filezilla and set it up for ssh ). But that's not really mounted.
[05:33] <clcto> Kb8wlu: /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[05:33] <Korekame> bogor, you can get it from MS's website, but it's changed so much since the last time I did it, that I don't know what page it's on  anymore.
[05:33] <Korekame> I think it's called unix tools or something, I can't remember.
[05:33] <bogor> Korekame: i will search nfs utils
[05:33] <bogor> Thanks Korekame
[05:33] <Dr_willis> i never was able to find NFS for windows at the ms site. ;) looked ages ago for it
[05:33] <Korekame> np
[05:33] <clcto> bogor: probably a way with cygwin
[05:34] <Korekame> Dr_willis, it's not listed as NFS for windows
[05:34] <bogor> clcto: cygwin is not a elegant way i feel
[05:34] <Dr_willis> or run a minimal disrto in vbox/qemu/whatever
[05:34] <clcto> bogor: neither is windows
[05:34] <Korekame> it's unix tools, it comes with ksh for windows, or posix utils, i don't remember. NFS support is just one of the features.
[05:35] <Korekame> you can access the filesystem over ssh with filezilla or winscp, it's not mounting, but it might be a plausible solution, or at least something temporary till you find a better way.
[05:35] <Korekame> Anyway, NFS support on windows is highly inefficient, so it might not be worth the effort.
[05:36] <ramon> i am talking about hard drive and you said ram problem? are you nut?
[05:37] <Korekame> wow, i got lines mixed, i'm a little dyslexic, sorry.
[05:42] <Henry151> hello there folks
[05:42] <clcto> o/
[05:42] <Henry151> maybe somebody can help me with this particularly perplexing problem
[05:43] <switching>  henry151 hi
[05:43] <Korekame> Henry151, could you start by stating the issue?
[05:43] <clcto> Henry151: just ask
[05:45] <kolaman> hi all, I have installed nagios-nrpe-server (nrpe client on 12.04 ubuntu machine) but that is not working. I start nrpe and it starts successfully. But when I check status it shows not running
[05:45] <Henry151> using unetbootin to load an iso, it completed the "extracting and copying files" step successfully, but then I had a hard-reset (bumped the power cord on the laptop which has a no-good battery). Then, in a complex sequence of events, the iso file was lost, and I want to avoid re-downloading it because it took two days on my slow internet connection. I want to know: is there any way to complete the third step, "installing bo
[05:45] <Henry151> otloader," without the iso file on hand?
[05:46] <Dr_willis> Henry151,  unetbootin was downloading the iso?
[05:46] <Henry151> no, i downloaded it with bittorrent
[05:46] <Mewtini> but don't you still have it?
[05:46] <Henry151> but the laptop i downloaded it to has been dropped off a desk and destroyed
[05:46] <Dr_willis> weird that it vanished..
[05:46] <Henry151> yes
[05:47] <Mewtini> oh
[05:47] <Henry151> weird
[05:47] <Henry151> :)
[05:47] <Mewtini> huh
[05:47] <Dr_willis> Henry151,  look in /lost+found perhaps?
[05:47] <Henry151> so basically, I have everything that was on the ISO, I've even copied it from the USB stick to my harddrive, but the usb stick won't boot because there's no bootloader on it. I need to install a bootloader somehow and copy the files back on
[05:48] <switching> installing ubuntu :D 30gb partition
[05:48] <switching> my hd is like 120 though so that's a lot
[05:48] <Mewtini> switching :D I have it on a 30GB partition, too.
[05:48] <switching> nice! how big is your hdd?
[05:48] <Relaxation> Just put a fresh install of 13.04 on my comp. Should I stick with unity?
[05:48] <Mewtini> most of my hd is taken up by windows >:(
[05:48] <Dr_willis> if a file was rescued from a fsck.. it might be in /lost+found
[05:48] <Henry151> or use somehow fool unetbootin into skipping the "extract and copy files" step and going straight to "install bootloader"
[05:48] <Dr_willis> Relaxation,  use whatever desktop you want. Install them all. ;)
[05:48] <Mewtini> switching mine is ~160GB
[05:49] <switching> mewtini i cleaned up about 5 gb of junk beforehand :)
[05:49] <Mewtini> Relaxation Unity's really pretty! It is personal preference, though.
[05:49] <Relaxation> Indeed, what are some essential things / apps to get after a fresh install?
[05:49] <Mewtini> Dr_willis: y'know, fsck seems to have revived my Ubuntu
[05:49] <switching> mewtini do you think it is worth it to go with a ssd if i get a system76 laptop?
[05:50] <Relaxation> I'm coming from Fedora, was pretty fed up with it tbh.
[05:50] <Mewtini> Relaxation: Compiz is good if you want special effects (BE CAREFUL WITH IT)
[05:50] <Henry151> for further information, the "installing bootloader" step was never begun, the hard reset happened between the two steps while unetbootin was actually not doing anything, just sitting idle
[05:50] <Dr_willis> switching,  if you can make due with the smaller hd size.. the speed boost is amazeing
[05:50] <Mewtini> Relaxation I was thinking of using Fedora until I saw it used GNOME3. :P
[05:50] <tnkhanh> hi, do you guys know Wine that can help run Windows program on linux?
[05:50] <Relaxation> You can always use Cinnamon on it.
[05:50] <Mewtini> Henry151 oh, no... >:(
[05:51] <dry[1]> hi. ubuntu 12.04.02 ibus problem: symbol suggestions [space press] are not working [in anthy (m17n)]
[05:51] <Mewtini> Relaxation: Oh, that's true. Hm.
[05:51] <tnkhanh> hi, I have some question
[05:51] <Guest66305> Hello! I recently switched my distro from Fedora to Ubuntu. I have a hangup though. I'm trying to restore my home folder, but before I can do that I need to be able to access my password, which is currently inside of my Revelation Passowrd Manager file. No problem, I just need to install Revelation first and open up my file. So, I install it Revelation from the package manager. Then I go to open up my file, and it's tellin
[05:51] <Guest66305> g me that the file is of a newer version of Revelation. Okay, looks like I'm going to need to install from source, because the newest version in Ubuntu package manager is outdated. So, I download the source files for the newest version of Revelation, and attempt to install, but it needs some dependencies. Unforunately, I don't know how to install these dependencies. Can somebody help walk me through this process? Here is w
[05:51] <Dr_willis> Not much poing in cinnamon ;) gome-3 3.8 has its own gnome-2 look mode...  but its still a work in progress
[05:51] <Guest66305> hat I have so far: http://pastebin.com/sEQ49pTm
[05:51] <FloodBot1> Guest66305: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:51] <_thufir_> how do you know that SANE is installed and configured correctly?  the Samsung unified driver doesn't see it:    http://askubuntu.com/questions/294965/
[05:51] <Mewtini> tnkhanh: what do you mean, exactly?
[05:51] <Mewtini> do you mean, like, reverse wine?
[05:51] <tnkhanh> yup
[05:51] <Mewtini> hm
[05:52] <switching> reverse wine? o.O
[05:52] <Mewtini> not that I know of :(
[05:52] <tnkhanh> it runs on windows and run programs on linux
[05:52] <Henry151> anybody? this seems like it should be simple but I can't figure it out
[05:53] <Mewtini> tnkhanh there're a lot of google results that came up for "run linux apps on windows"
[05:54] <Mewtini> tnkhanh most of them are saying to use virtualization. >>
[05:54] <Dr_willis> theres used to be a ubuntu-spinoff that installed in windows. and  worked with xming to sort of transparently run linux apps on windows.
[05:54] <xraixed> Air crack available in Ubuntu 13
[05:54] <Mewtini> or wubi...
[05:54] <Relaxation> How do i adjust the screen brightnesss in ubuntu
[05:54] <aeon-ltd> ubuntu-portable?
[05:54] <Guest66305> Can somebody help me with this problem? Explained here because it's so long: http://pastebin.com/8b4BUFwL
[05:54] <switching> wubi! :)
[05:54] <Dr_willis> wubi dosent run at the same time  as windows.
[05:55] <tnkhanh> wubi is that dual boot right?
[05:55] <Dr_willis> wubi is a special kind of dual booting.. yes.
[05:55] <aeon-ltd> tnkhanh: yeah, but using the win bootloader
[05:55] <switching> yea i was joking cause no one uses it anymore except me
[05:55] <aeon-ltd> http://lifehacker.com/5195999/portable-ubuntu-runs-ubuntu-inside-windows this is what i'm talkin bout
[05:55] <Relaxation> Well, doesnt wubi run within Windows, or soemthing like that...
[05:55] <Henry151> let me simplify my problem, then maybe somebody can help. Is there any way to make a bootable usb key from files that have already been extracted from their ISO?
[05:55] <Mewtini> Dr_willis: special is the gentle way to put it
[05:55] <clcto> wubi installs ubuntu in a vm on windows
[05:55] <Mewtini> tnkhanh: ! here, look http://lifehacker.com/358208/seamlessly-run-linux-apps-on-your-windows-desktop :o
[05:55] <Dr_willis> wubi Installs onto the windows partition..  its not really running in a vm.,
[05:56] <Mewtini> yeah
[05:56] <tnkhanh> woa how cool
[05:56] <Ben66> Henry151: maybe, but why not just use the iso?
[05:56] <tnkhanh> tks I will look into it
[05:56] <Dr_willis> Henry151,  you could install syslinux onto the usb flash.. thats what unetbootin normally uses
[05:56] <_thufir_> tnkhanh: cygwin
[05:57] <Dr_willis> Henry151,  if all the files are there.
[05:57] <Henry151> Ben66: it's a long story but basically the iso has been lost because the laptop it was on is physically damaged from dropping to the floor, and i have too slow an internet connection to re-download in my timeframe
[05:57] <_thufir_> !cygwin | tnkhanh
[05:57] <Henry151> Dr_willis: thank you so much that sounds like the answer
[05:57] <Guest66305> Can somebody tell me what the ubuntu equivalent of yum provides is?
[05:57] <tnkhanh> ok I will try
[05:57] <clcto> apt-get
[05:57] <Henry151> going off to google syslinux now :)
[05:57] <Relaxation> apt
[05:57] <clcto> yeah, apt sry
[05:57] <Dr_willis> Henry151,  you did look for the iso file in /lost+found ?
[05:58] <Henry151> no, the laptop that fell off the desk won't even start to boot
[05:58] <Dr_willis> Doh...
[05:58] <Ben66> grab the drive out of it and hook it up
[05:58] <Guest66305> I'm trying to figure out how to install pygtk-2.8 and I can't figure out how.
[05:58] <jarray52> What does the s in linux file permissions mean? I'm referring to the s at the very beginning that occurs at the same location as the d for directory.
[05:58] <Ben66> most hard drives can survive quite a high amount of acceleration when off
[05:58] <Charcoalcat> Guest66305: sudo apt-get install pygtk-2.8?
[05:58] <aeon-ltd> Guest66305: is it in the repos? if not is there a ppa? if not build it
[05:59] <Henry151> Ben66: i think the hard drive is probably ok but I don't have the tools nor much experience to pull the hard drive out and try to hook it to my other laptop
[05:59] <Guest66305> Help! http://pastebin.com/8b4BUFwL
[05:59] <Ben66> !patience | guest66305
[05:59] <Henry151> I really hope the hard drive on that laptop is not damaged because it has the cast majority of my real data
[05:59] <tnkhanh> thufir_, Mewtini: I am using dual boot with wubi. Ubuntu and Windows are on the same win partition. I want to access my linux files and run my terminal (and maybe other apps) through windows
[05:59] <Henry151> vast*
[05:59] <Relaxation> Henry, It's more likely things just disconnected than it is parts actually broke.
[05:59] <jarray52> Henry151: You could try network booting the machine. If that works, then you're sol.
[06:00] <Henry151> jarray52: the laptop in question won't even begin to turn on, hitting power button does nothing at all. Plugging it in causes a couple lights to turn green, but not the "power" light that should indicate that it's plugged in normally
[06:00] <jarray52> Henry151: If you're sol, you can pay a recovery company 2k to recover the data for you.
[06:01] <Henry151> I think I can recover the data myself somewhere down the road, likely the hard drive isn't even damaged and if i just pull it out and plug it in to another machine I'll have everything back
[06:01] <Henry151> but for now i'm on an entirely different issue
[06:02] <Henry151> that is, trying to fix this half-done usb boot key for another laptop
[06:02] <Ben66> you're on verizon... you could download the iso pretty quickly
[06:02] <Mewtini> Henry151 how did you download it?
[06:02] <switching> wahoo just booted into ubuntu successfully!
[06:03] <Mewtini> If it was a regular download then you could wget it.
[06:03] <jarray52> What does the s in linux file permissions mean? I'm referring to the s at the very beginning that occurs at the same location as the d for directory.
[06:04] <Dr_willis> jarray52,  'suid' i think
[06:04] <Dr_willis> jared5552,  what file has the s ?
[06:04] <Relaxation> Nothing important lol.
[06:04] <Henry151> Mewtini: bittorrent
[06:04] <Mewtini> switching: hurrah!
[06:04] <jarray52> Dr_willis: renderd.sock
[06:04] <Henry151> Ben66: I'm on verizon?
[06:04] <Henry151> I'm using some borrowed wifi
[06:04] <Relaxation> Anyone here use ubuntu for programming purposes?
[06:04] <Mewtini> Henry151: Huh... it took that long on BitTorrent?
[06:04] <jarray52> Dr_willis: How do I set the s at the beginning for a file?
[06:04] <Henry151> and it was pretty damn slow last night
[06:04] <lasers> Guest66305: Have you searched for "Ubuntu Compiling"? There are two links that you can read. "CompilingSoftware and CompilingEasySomething"
[06:04] <switching> mewtini now time to get to work ndiswrapping some windows drivers
[06:05] <Mewtini> Relaxation I do if HTML/CSS counts. Haha.
[06:05] <Guest66305> lasers: Thank you for a lead. I'll look into it right now.
[06:05] <Henry151> Mewtini: it's a 3.7gb iso
[06:05] <Ben66> Dr_willis, jarray52: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_file_types#Socket
[06:05] <Relaxation> Jarray52, you mean change the permissions? Go to the terminal and type "man chmod"
[06:05] <Mewtini> Henry151: Woah, what's in it? (sorry :( haven't been paying attention)
[06:06] <Henry151> Mewtini: Debian 7.0 :D
[06:06] <Relaxation> Debian's iso is that large?
[06:06] <Relaxation> lol
[06:06] <Mewtini> ?! Debian's that big?
[06:06] <Ben66> Henry151: then why are you in #ubuntu?
[06:06] <Dr_willis> jarray52,  why do you need to? its not normally somthing most people need to mess with -- .   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setuid
[06:06] <Mewtini> I thought Linux was usually smaller than Windows o.o
[06:06] <Henry151> I know, I should be asking in #debian, but I can't access #debian because I'm logged in as root because the only laptop I have right now that will turn on is running Backtrack and has only a root user set up
[06:06] <aeon-ltd> Mewtini: can be
[06:06] <Relaxation> OH btw, what's the command that brings up all your OS / system specs, and includes a OS symbol made of of characters
[06:07] <Mewtini> Relaxation do you mean Details?
[06:07] <Henry151> Anybody want to tell me how to install syslinux to the usb drive or should i just go googling?
[06:07] <aeon-ltd> Relaxation: that's a script
[06:07] <switching> does anyone here own a system76 laptop?
[06:07] <Mewtini> System Settings > Details??
[06:07] <Ben66> Henry151: well its not even an ubuntu issue...
[06:07] <Mewtini> Ben66 it's still not "omg debian" entirely!!
[06:07] <Relaxation> aeon what's the script called?
[06:07] <Henry151> Ben66: true but it's not really a debian issue either, it's a unetbootin issue and they don't have an IRC channel :)
[06:07] <jarray52> Ben66: Thanks. That was extremely helpful. I'd been barking up the wrong tree for a while.
[06:08] <Ben66> trying to make a debian usb drive from backtrack?
[06:08] <Relaxation> Mewtini, no not that!
[06:08] <Ben66> definitely not ubuntu
[06:08] <aeon-ltd> Relaxation: like this but for ubuntu http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/261312/archey.png ?
[06:08] <Relaxation> Yes! Exactly
[06:08] <Relaxation> Havn't used it in quite some time. Forgot how.
[06:08] <aeon-ltd> that's ascript you'll need to download
[06:08] <Henry151> plus you ubuntu people are smart so I figured I'd ask here :)
[06:08] <Relaxation> What's it called?
[06:09] <lasers> Try archey script
[06:09] <aeon-ltd> i'm trying to find it now
[06:09] <Relaxation> It's quite popular.
[06:09] <Relaxation> iirc
[06:10] <switching> are system76 laptops really thick?
[06:10] <aeon-ltd> Relaxation: there's actually a pkg called archey that handles it across distros
[06:11] <Relaxation> soo...
[06:11] <Relaxation> sudo apt-get archey?
[06:11] <jarray52> Ben66: Is there a simple way to create a socket file?
[06:11] <Ben66> jarray52: what are you trying to accomplish
[06:11] <Charcoalcat> Henry151: Wait, why is logging in as root keeping you from going in #debian? Can't you just join it from your irc client?
[06:12] <jarray52> Ben66: I'm trying to create a socket file renderd.sock.
[06:12] <Ben66> jarray52: for what purpose
[06:13] <switching> does anyone have experience using linux on a personal computer during college?
[06:13] <Relaxation> Switching, I do.
[06:13] <Henry151> Charcoalcat: #debian automatically takes your voice if you are logged in as root
[06:13] <Charcoalcat> switching why do you ask!
[06:13] <Charcoalcat> Henry151: Oh what. Huh.
[06:13] <jarray52> Ben66: To allow an apache2 server to communicate with mod_tile. This will allow me to setup a tile server.
[06:13] <switching> how was that? any compatibility problems?
[06:13] <aeon-ltd> Relaxation: there;s a deb here https://github.com/djmelik/archey/downloads
[06:13] <Ben66> jarray52: stuff like that should happen automatically
[06:13] <qin> Henry151: adduser notrootuser; su notrootuser; irssi...
[06:14] <switching> charcoalcat off to college and thinking of getting system76 laptop
[06:14] <Dr_willis> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/how-can-i-create-a-socket-file-248399/  jarray52
[06:14] <qin> Henry151: no trouble at all.
[06:14] <Relaxation> No because I have windows on my desktop, so if there were any issues I had it covered. Also I'm a computer science major so a linux distro on a portable machine is required of me.
[06:14] <switching> relaxation im a computer engineering major :)
[06:15] <jarray52> Either the file wasn't created, or I accidentally deleted the file. I have another Linux machine where the server works, and I'm trying to copy the configuration.
[06:15] <Relaxation> Aeon - Thank you!
[06:15] <switching> you brought a desktop to college relaxation?
[06:15] <Charcoalcat> switching: Office is the only problem I've had through two semesters! That was for a (required here) learn-to-use-Office class, though. My partner's had some trouble with music programs like Finale and GarageBand.
[06:15] <switching> charcoalcat "learn to use office"? 0.0
[06:15] <Relaxation> Switching, yes, but you must understand I reside in my area of schooling for all but 2 moths of the year (going year round)
[06:16] <Relaxation> And I live in an apartment that's off campus
[06:16] <Charcoalcat> switching: Well it's supposed to be a "help I've never heard of a computer" class but it ends up being pretty much about learning to use Office.
[06:16] <switching> relaxation would you advise taking just linux to college?
[06:16] <switching> charcoalcat why did you take it lol
[06:17] <switching> relaxation if im going to be in a dorm
[06:17] <Charcoalcat> switching also if you're living at college you should be able to go to the computer lab for the occasional incompatible program!
[06:17] <jarray52> Dr_willis: I saw that in my Google searching but couldn't find the mkfio program/package.
[06:17] <switching> charcoalcat well many of the labs are all linux :D
[06:17] <Charcoalcat> switching: I said before, it's a required class here. It's annoying.
[06:17] <switching> charcoalcat oh ya sorry forot
[06:17] <Charcoalcat> switching oh neat! That sounds like they don't expect many issues, then!
[06:17] <Dr_willis> jarray52,  its installed by default here....
[06:17] <switching> forgot
[06:17] <Dr_willis> !find mkfifo
[06:18] <Relaxation> Switching, you can make do with just linux quite easily, now, I will admit, having both windows AND linux will serve as a SLIGHT convenience for you.
[06:18] <switching> charcoalcat i hope not!
[06:18] <Dr_willis> which mkfifo -->  /usr/bin/mkfifo
[06:18] <switching> relaxation for what? i dont really play video games
[06:18] <switching> lol
[06:18] <jarray52> Dr_willis: it's mkfifo not mkfio... that makes a difference.
[06:19] <Dr_willis> i have mkfifo here..
[06:19] <Charcoalcat> switching: For the classes you're planning to take, could you E-mail the professors and ask them about what programs they're expecting you to use?
[06:19] <Guest66305> I just issued the apt-search pygtk command and it brought up so many packages that I could scroll through all of them. How do I make it so that I have to hit enter before it takes me down a page, so that I can see the whole list?
[06:19] <jarray52> Dr_willis: the post has mkfio. That's where I got stuck.
[06:19] <Dr_willis> First in FIrst Out..
[06:19] <jarray52> I'll try with mkfifo
[06:19] <switching> charcoalcat i'll bet those are online, so i can check :)
[06:19] <Guest66305> could=couldn't
[06:19] <Dr_willis>   see the options for mkfifo. on my system the file is:
[06:19] <Dr_willis> .....
[06:20] <Dr_willis> the post uses both.. :)
[06:20] <Relaxation> Switching, for me file formats and also my school uses a wireless printspot driver that is not compatable with linux, e.g. I must be logged onto windows or MacOS to print.
[06:20] <Dr_willis> looks like the first guy did a typo
[06:20] <Charcoalcat> Guest66305: Have you tried doing the search through Ubuntu Software Center or Synaptic Package Manager instead? You should be able to see the list more easily in those!
[06:20] <Relaxation> Also what's this mkfifo
[06:20] <Guest66305> I haven't found anything for pygtk
[06:20] <switching> relaxation ouch! i guess i should ask someone at the school
[06:20] <Relaxation> does this have to do with a first in first out queue?
[06:21] <vnc786> hello everyone
[06:21] <vnc786> ubuntu 12.04 64 bit on Laptop : issue :- after power on --BIOS--> ORANGE Screen is there for 10-15 sec and and then fsck ... what does that ORNAGE screen does N can i disable it
[06:21] <Dr_willis> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Named_pipe
[06:21] <Guest66305> Interesting, Synaptic Package Manager doesn't come pre-installed with Ubuntu. Installing it now.
[06:21] <Dr_willis> has info on mkfifo
[06:21] <Relaxation> Switching, Like I said many of these issues are easily solved even if you don't have windows, like I said windows would be a SLIGHT convience and having only linux will not hinder you
[06:21] <Relaxation> Also If you have a tech store at the school you plan on attending, then you can get windows 8 for 35$
[06:22] <Dr_willis> http://www.freebsdwiki.net/index.php/Mkfifo
[06:22] <switching> relaxation cool :), and now i just have to get over how thick system76 laptops appear to be
[06:22] <jarray52> Dr_willis: mkfifo creates a file with a 'p' instead of an 's'. hmm...
[06:23] <Relaxation> Dr_willis: Did not know a command for this existed.
[06:23] <Relaxation> Very interestng.
[06:23] <lasers> switching: You don't have to use system76 laptop. Most laptops will work out of box with zero/small issues.
[06:23] <Dr_willis> Relaxation,  ;) ive used them in the past. but rarely
[06:23] <switching> lasers but then i have to buy windows :P
[06:23] <Dr_willis> Relaxation,  i recall some weird irc client ages ago that used lots of fifos ;) one for each channel..
[06:23] <switching> dr_willis how was it?
[06:24] <Dr_willis> weird. ;) i cant even rember its name
[06:24] <Relaxation> Oh I understand it's implementation. I suppose you could use it as a parser?
[06:24] <Henry151> crikit over in #linux just solved my problems
[06:25] <Charcoalcat> Guest66305: Could "python-gtk2" be what you're looking for?
[06:25] <Relaxation> I've made my own FIFOs in C that did other things.... Mainly working with graphs.
[06:25] <Henry151> all I have to do is make the files into an iso again and then dd them to the usb
[06:26] <Charcoalcat> Henry151: Yay, yay!
[06:26] <Guest66305> Maybe, I'm not sure. It says pygtk-2.8>= 2.0 not found or somethingrather.  So that miiight work.
[06:27] <vnc786> any help on this..
[06:27] <vnc786> ubuntu 12.04 64 bit on Laptop : issue :- after power on --BIOS--> ORANGE Screen is there for 10-15 sec and and then fsck ... what does that ORNAGE screen does N can i disable it
[06:27] <Dr_willis> Relaxation,  yea.. you echo'ed to them.. and it would go to the channel.. cat from them to read the channel
[06:27] <Guest66305> Let's hope. I can't do anything until I can open up my passwords file. My whole life is locked up in that file.
[06:28] <Dr_willis> Relaxation,  first google hit i did.. ;)   http://tools.suckless.org/ii/
[06:29] <Relaxation> Dr_willis:What in the.. I would have never though of implementing a FIFO like this! haha.
[06:29] <Guest66305> Hey, looks like I'm making progress. I ran ./configure again and it looks like it's got the dependency I didn't have earlier. But now there's a new dependency I need to get.
[06:29] <Relaxation> Interesting, nonetheless
[06:29] <loganlee> !ronaldo | Relaxation
[06:30] <Relaxation> !ronaldo | loganlee
[06:30] <Charcoalcat> Guest66305 that sounds good!
[06:30] <Dr_willis> Relaxation,  would make crafting an irc bot a lot simpiler. ;)
[06:31] <Relaxation> Dr_willis - I see. Should I be worried someone just ran the !ronaldo command on me :O
[06:32] <Relaxation> !ronaldo | Relaxation
[06:33] <Guest66305> HAHAHAHAH
[06:33] <ravindu> hi
[06:33] <Guest66305> Success!
[06:33] <lasers> Guest66305: Those two links helped?
[06:33] <Charcoalcat> Guest66305: \o/!!
[06:34] <Guest66305> I want to thank everybody for helping me out. Those little clues here and there got me through it.
[06:34] <Guest66305> I can now begin to restore my life.
[06:34] <Guest66305> Thanks again everybody!
[06:39] <elyaze> is this chating room??
[06:40] <elyaze> #join
[06:40] <elyaze> what ?
[06:40] <ravindu> Anyone can help me on this matter?
[06:40] <ravindu> http://goo.gl/wkJd8
[06:41] <elyaze> why no one talking
[06:41] <ravindu> its irritating to go through this mess
[06:42] <elyaze> any sexy girls?
[06:42] <ravindu> help may be greatly appreciated
[06:42] <elyaze> ok i will try to help u
[06:43] <ravindu> thank you
[06:43] <Dewi> ravindu: you probably need to check logs and make sure the appropriate defaults are set. Also, don't run alphas
[06:43] <ravindu> now its upgraded to the default version
[06:43] <elyaze> i have no idea
[06:44] <ravindu> going through terminal give access
[06:44] <bhavesh> My resolution is set to 800x600 when I launch GTA SA through wine, I want it to get back to normal when I exit GTA SA. How can I do that?
[06:44] <ravindu> after startx and typing unity in terminal
[06:45] <loganlee> !crossover | bhavesh
[06:45] <ravindu> anyway to fix this
[06:46] <Dewi> ravindu: is the display manager (ie lightdm) starting on boot?
[06:46] <ravindu> no
[06:46] <ravindu> only boot into terminal
[06:47] <bhavesh> loganlee, its better than wine?
[06:47] <loganlee> bhavesh, it's supposed to be for window games on linux
[06:47] <bhavesh> loganlee, well my game runs perfectly well with wine
[06:48] <bhavesh> I just want to auto change the screen resolution when my wine session ends
[06:48] <Dr_willis> you could setup a script and xrandr to do that bhavesh
[06:49] <ravindu> log through terminal and type strartx then got to desktop and with no unity
[06:50] <ravindu> then get terminal again and type unity
[06:50] <ravindu> then all working
[06:50] <bhavesh> Dr_willis, ill try. I'll have to find a way to execute my script automatically after the wine session ends
[06:51] <Dr_willis> bhavesh,  make the script start the game, then do the command after the game exits
[06:51] <bhavesh> Dr_willis, Nice idea :)
[06:51] <loganlee> bhavesh, write a bash script
[06:51] <bhavesh> loganlee, yea
[06:52] <ravindu> any idea friends? reinstalling daunting
[06:52] <Dr_willis> ravindu,  install gdm see if gdm works
[06:53] <ravindu> have to remove lightdm first?
[06:55] <Dr_willis> no you do not
[06:55] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install gdm
[06:55] <ravindu> all worked fine after beta to stable version upgrade all started
[06:56] <DragonRift> whats the best desktop Env for a lightweight installation?
[06:57] <Dr_willis> lightest  'full desktop' would be Lubuntu
[06:58] <ravindu> installed gdm
[06:58] <ravindu> and then?
[06:59] <DragonRift> will that reduce UI delays in a VM?
[06:59] <Dr_willis> lubuntu works well for me in vbox..
[06:59] <Dewi> DragonRift: xfce (xubuntu)
[06:59] <deckard> hi again. I uninstalled a program but the link still remains in the menu , how can i remove it?
[06:59] <Dr_willis> unity works well for me in vbox on windows.
[06:59] <Dr_willis> deckard,  what program?
[06:59] <Dewi> DragonRift: lubuntu is probably good too
[06:59] <deckard> Firestorm Viewer
[06:59] <_PehdeN_> how do you clear the update cache
[06:59] <DragonRift> I have a bad UI delay in VBox
[07:00] <deckard> i right clikced the menu to edit it but i dont see it listed in there, but it is showing
[07:00] <Dr_willis> deckard,  that one you installed manually in your users home?  most likely theres some .desktop file for it in one ofyour config dirs
[07:00] <ravindu> I'l restart and check whether it works Thanks Dr-Wills
[07:00] <deckard> i will check
[07:00] <deckard> when i clikc it it just says it doesnt exist
[07:00] <deckard> it is not there
[07:01] <_PehdeN_> nvm
[07:01] <deckard> strange thing is it doesnt show in the edit menu thing, where you can see and tick or untick the ones you want to show
[07:01] <deckard> "applications menu"
[07:01] <Dr_willis> thers a .config/applications/ dir that has custome .desktop files
[07:02] <deckard> 7 shown under "internet" but there are 8
[07:04] <vedmedk0> test
[07:04] <vedmedk0> hello, world!
[07:04] <Dr_willis> moo
[07:05] <Myrtti> test successful. would you like me to sing you a song, Dave?
[07:05] <vedmedk0> lol
[07:09] <alumnoadmindani> hola
[07:10]  * vedmedk0 jumps
[07:10] <alumnoadminbrote> viva la fiesta tiooooooooooo
[07:10] <GinTonicool> hi guys, nfs common utilities statd failed ,what's wrong with it ?
[07:11] <vedmedk0> dunno lol
[07:12] <GinTonicool> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5663670/
[07:12] <DragonRift> is there an app manager where I can see whats avaialble?
[07:12] <Dr_willis> DragonRift,  software-center, or synaptic, or the cli tools
[07:13] <DragonRift> well a software center as I am not experienced
[07:13] <Dr_willis> ubuntu has 'software center' by default. synaptic is the older package manager gui
[07:14] <Henry151> question
[07:14] <DragonRift> well I need to install developer tools for Programming & COmpiling
[07:15] <Henry151> does dd'ing an iso to a usb automatically make the usb bootable?
[07:15] <Dr_willis> DragonRift,  you will want the build-essential package and other -dev packages then
[07:15] <Dr_willis> Henry151,  yes.
[07:15] <DragonRift> ok so what command would I type?
[07:15] <Dr_willis> Henry151,  assuming you dd it to  /dev/sdX  not /dev/sdx1 by mistake ;)
[07:15] <DragonRift> as I said
[07:15] <DragonRift> I am not experienced lol
[07:15] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get install packagename
[07:15] <Henry151> yep, /dev/sdc
[07:16] <Dr_willis> !info build-essential
[07:16] <Henry151> but it won't boot
[07:16] <Henry151> what i did was i made an iso from the files that were on the usb
[07:16] <Henry151> then i dd'd that to the usb
[07:16] <Dr_willis> Henry151,  err.. that wont work..
[07:16] <Henry151> why not
[07:16] <Dr_willis> the iso has a bootrecord.
[07:16] <Dr_willis> your files dont...
[07:16] <Henry151> hmm
[07:16] <Henry151> can i add one?
[07:17] <Dr_willis> i imagine you could.. but  it may take you some time to figure it out
[07:17] <Henry151> and while i'm at it i want to add the broadcom-sta drivers i need for my wifi card so i can have internet during the install :)
[07:18] <Dr_willis> wonder if you could get the ubuntu mini iso.. and make a bootable usb with it.. then copy over the stuff..
[07:18] <Henry151> *goes off googling "adding a bootrecord to an iso"
[07:18] <Dr_willis> you would use 'isolinux' i belive to boot the cd.
[07:19] <Henry151> shoot i'll just go google "making a custom debian iso" and learn everything i can
[07:20] <Dr_willis> and have the actual ubuntu iso downloading as you read.. ;) and see what gets done first.
[07:20] <Dr_willis> the lubuntu iso is smaller. ;)
[07:22] <Dr_willis> you can make a ext3 filesystem on the usb. put the files on it.. then figure out the syslinux configs to make it bootable also
[07:23] <Dr_willis> actually that might be using 'extlinux' then..     they are variants/tools in the syslinux package
[07:23] <DragonRift> whats a good linux dev environment for programming
[07:23] <Dr_willis> !info geany
[07:25] <Henry151> Dr_willis: I don't understand something here. If I download an ISO, extract it, then make it back into an ISO, the new iso and the old should be identical, yes?
[07:25] <clcto> Henry151: no
[07:26] <Dr_willis> Henry151,  no.. because theres a boot record on the iso that you dident get when you extacted the files
[07:26] <Henry151> ok
[07:27] <DragonRift> is codeblocks a good environemnt?
[07:27] <Dr_willis> try it out and decide if it works for you
[07:27] <Solstick> hello x)
[07:27] <Dr_willis> some would argue emacs is the ultimate ide.  ;P
[07:28] <Vraaghetmaar> Hello Solstick
[07:28] <DragonRift> I need an environemnt that I can be familiar with on Windows and Linux
[07:28] <DragonRift> I will be doing Cross Platform Development
[07:28] <clcto> DragonRift: eclipse?
[07:28] <Dr_willis> in what language DragonRift ?
[07:29] <DragonRift> GNU C/C++
[07:29] <clcto> DragonRift: MS doesnt have gnu c/c++
[07:29] <DragonRift> MS has MingW
[07:30] <DragonRift> closest thing MS gets to GU afaik
[07:30] <DragonRift> GNU
[07:30]  * Dr_willis dosent develop. ;P
[07:31] <clcto> eclipse is cross platform and pretty similiar to Visual Studio i believe
[07:31] <loganlee> eclipse seems good although i havent actually used it
[07:31] <loganlee> u can addon for c++ devel
[07:32] <Dr_willis> from the # of people i see in here fighting with eclipse.. it seems it can be fragile at times.
[07:33] <Tyrope> Good morning, my school workstation boots into grub rescue with "error file not found" Google has many suggestions with live CDs, which I don't have access to atm.. any ideas?
[07:34] <loganlee> is netbeans ide any good?
[07:34] <Tyrope> (its a dual boot Win7 Ubuntu12.04)
[07:34] <loganlee> Tyrope, wat happened to ubuntu?
[07:35] <Tyrope> Logan: it shut down just fine yesterday.
[07:35] <Tyrope> This morning it just grubs.
[07:36] <clcto> loganlee: isnt netbeans only java
[07:36] <loganlee> maybe fiddle around with boot priority in bios
[07:36] <Jordan_U> Tyrope: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[07:36] <loganlee> clcto, yeh but i havent used it before so i dont know its good or not
[07:37] <Tyrope>  no. Partitioned
[07:37] <DragonRift> I think I am gonna use CoeBlocks and see how things go from there
[07:37] <DragonRift> CodeBlocks
[07:38] <Tyrope> Ls shows me fd0, hd0, and hd0,msdos[1,2,3,5,6]
[07:38] <Jordan_U> Tyrope: Do you have a spare USB drive you can make a liveUSB out of? Did you do anything that you can think of between when it last booted correctly and now?
[07:38] <Henry151> i still don't understand... there is a folder in my iso called "isolinux" full of stuff
[07:38] <Dr_willis> wowsers.. using Handbreak to reencode my cartoons took them from 300mb per half hr.. to 80mb :0
[07:38] <clcto> loganlee: idk me either, i just use vim
[07:38] <OrangeTux> vim is awesome ;)
[07:39] <BossDaDDy> I got a question
[07:39] <clcto> BossDaDDy: just ask
[07:39] <BossDaDDy> are you guys nerds
[07:39] <Tyrope> Jordan: I don't, no. There's no other computer here I can use to download, I'm using my phone for IRC. I only did some vim and git.
[07:39] <railsraider> hi, im trying to create an upstart with instance but the $ID does not pass to the env
[07:39] <Jordan_U> !ot | BossDaDDy
[07:39] <Vraaghetmaar> Hahahahaha BossDaDDy why do you think?
[07:40] <railsraider> env PIDFILE="/var/www/shared/tmp/pids/resque_worker_0_instance_$ID.pid"
[07:40] <railsraider> it creates the file like the string
[07:40] <Tyrope> I didn't do anything that would influence booting...
[07:40] <oye> i. Yesterday I got Kubuntu installed in my laptop, thanks to Wubi. Everything went fine, the system is running smooth and sweet and nice. Now, my problem is that I can't boot  back into Windows. I mean, everything goes fine, Grub loads, I select to boot Windows, and afterwards, nothing happens. It just gets stuck into a black screen. Any clues?
[07:41] <Dr_willis> I  Thought wubi used the windows boot-loader selector thing.. not grub..
[07:41] <Dr_willis> or it uses grub after you see the windows boot selector
[07:41] <BossDaDDy> he user EFAa25/etfEDZfUUzS v4
[07:42] <BossDaDDy> did you know Y = Mx + c
[07:42] <Jordan_U> Tyrope: As per http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/GRUB-only-offers-a-rescue-shell.html , please run "set" and tell me what the value of $prefix is.
[07:42] <Dr_willis> ravindu,  hmm? theres no need to dcc chat people...
[07:42] <ravindu> oh no idea about that
[07:42] <ravindu> sorry
[07:43] <Tyrope> (hd0,msdos3)/boot/grub
[07:43] <ravindu> new to irc chat
[07:43] <ravindu> by the way after gdm installation it worked but ugly login screen and touch pad not working
[07:43] <oye> Dr_willis: Now that you say it, yes, I guess you're right. So it's actually an issue of the windows boot-loader?
[07:43] <Jordan_U> Tyrope: OK. Does "ls $prefix" list files or give an error message?
[07:43] <ravindu> why lightdm is not working?
[07:43] <Dr_willis> oye,  i would think so.. but i dont use wubi
[07:44] <Tyrope> Empty line, error: file not found
[07:44] <oye> Dr_willis: Ah, don't worry :-) I just thought maybe someone faced the same issue in the past and had any hints.
[07:44] <Dr_willis> oye,  thats the issue you see with wubi.. it breaks.. no one knows how to fix it
[07:44] <ravindu> any idea? Dr_willis
[07:45] <Tyrope> Thanks for helping btw, Jordan
[07:45] <Dr_willis> ravindu,  whats  'ugly' about the login screen? and does the desktop actually work then?
[07:45] <Jordan_U> oye: You should see the Windows bootloader menu before you see the grub menu. Can you post a screenshot (with a camera) of the first menu you see at boot? Can you also run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt that it produces?
[07:45] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | oye
[07:45] <ravindu> it worked i like lightdm lot that's why
[07:46] <Dr_willis> ravindu,  huh? so gdm worked properly?
[07:46] <ravindu> yes
[07:46] <Jordan_U> Tyrope: What about "ls (hd0,msdos3)/" ?
[07:46] <Tyrope> Empty
[07:46] <Dr_willis> ravindu,  so clarify to the channel what the original issue is  with lightdm.
[07:47] <Tyrope> Shall I ls the other partitions?
[07:47] <Jordan_U> Tyrope: Yes.
[07:47] <oye> Jordan_U: Oh, thank you very much! But I am not in panic. From Kubuntu I will be able to save the data I need, and then proceed to a complete linux installation, erasing everything on the way. Including Windows. :-)
[07:48] <kolbe> is there some rasonable way to tell grub (or something else i suppose) to start without any networking support? so that i don't have to wait for network configuration using existing udev rules to timeout after i have cloned a virtualbox image
[07:48] <oye> I will take my time and do some googling, and it it doesn't work, then just screw it. HAH!
[07:48] <jmurrib21> hello
[07:48] <Vraaghetmaar> jmurrib21: Hello
[07:48] <ronalds> oye, preinstalled windows on laptop, orginal? no reason to remove windows, if you can dual boot when you need it most
[07:48] <ravindu> as I explained earlier this is original issue http://goo.gl/wkJd8
[07:48] <Jordan_U> oye: You're welcome. Moving away from Wubi is definitely what you should do (I would have recommended it even if you weren't having any problems).
[07:49] <Tyrope> Jordan: msdos6 is my shared windows/linux storage, all other hd are 'unknown filesystem', fd0 gives fd0 read error
[07:49] <ravindu> then as you asked I install gdm I was able to log in
[07:49] <jmurrib21> happy that i finally could install ubuntu 13.04 in a new desktop pc with UEFI
[07:49] <oye> ronalds: I do want to move away from Windows. That's the plan. Wubi was just a short-time solution before taking the definitive step.
[07:49] <Tyrope> (6 has no boot options)
[07:49] <Vraaghetmaar> jmurrib21: Thats great!
[07:50] <loganlee> just installed eclipse cdt
[07:50] <loganlee> now c++ support
[07:50] <jmurrib21> now, somehow the swap partition get deleted or something like that
[07:50] <FreeBSD64> jmurrib21: you can make one if theres not one there
[07:50] <oye> Jordan_U: I see. I will take your advice in consideration, very much.
[07:51] <jmurrib21> will do with gparted
[07:51] <Vraaghetmaar> jmurrib21: Try an partition manager
[07:52] <jmurrib21> will the swap partition help ubuntu to run faster
[07:52] <FreeBSD64> no
[07:52] <teltariat> hello.  A current package that I need is a version behind the actual source. Is there a place where I can download a beta version package that is in sync with the bleeding edge version?
[07:52] <ravindu> any help on that matter?
[07:52] <oye> jmurrib21: The swap partition will "help" Ubuntu.. run.
[07:52] <FreeBSD64> if you have enough ram disable swap
[07:52] <oye> Or, as FreeBSD64 just said.
[07:52] <ronalds> thats admirable oye, but you can easily dual boot, and use both, just like knowing more than one language is bonuse..
[07:52] <jmurrib21> i just have 4 gb ram
[07:53] <FreeBSD64> jmurrib21: it depends what you're running. 4gb with no swap should be fine
[07:53] <jmurrib21> i see
[07:53] <Dr_willis> 'just 4gb of ram' ;)
[07:53] <FreeBSD64> if you're never going to get near the max ram usage swap will only make things less responsive
[07:53] <oye> ronalds: I've had to Windows for almost two years, I am just so sick of it, I don't really feel like. :-)
[07:53] <jmurrib21> it takes a while to boot
[07:53] <oye> I am not "new", just out of date. :-P
[07:54] <Dr_willis> if your not using all your ram.. then swap shouldend really be getting touched.
[07:54] <FreeBSD64> jmurrib21: it wont affect boot speed, that will probably be your hard drive mostly
[07:54] <ravindu> :(
[07:54] <jmurrib21> i see
[07:54] <FreeBSD64> Dr_willis: it still swaps depending on swappiness
[07:54] <FreeBSD64> when it gets to a certain threshold
[07:54] <Jordan_U> jmurrib21: FreeBSD64: Having swap alone will almost never make anything slower, but can allow things to run faster (by allowing more RAM to be used for cache), and is certainly good for avoiding an OOM (Out Of Memory) situation. If you think that swap is slowing things down for some reason (why?) you can always set swappiness to 0 and swap will only be used in emergencies to prevent OOM killing.
[07:54] <Dr_willis> cant say ive really noticed. ;) but i got 'just' gb of ram..
[07:54] <newbuntu> PFSense any good for a firewall? help :P
[07:54] <Dr_willis> !firewall | newbuntu
[07:55] <Dr_willis> actually im not even sure if i got a swap on this box..  it might have gotten removed when i switched to sdd
[07:55] <ravindu> why is that gdm worked while lightdm not
[07:55] <FreeBSD64> you can set the swappiness to a tighter level so it doesnt swap early
[07:56] <Tyrope> Jordan_U: not to seem impatient, but did you see my message?
[07:56] <FreeBSD64> then you get the best of both worlds
[07:56] <Dewi> ravindu: probably just had broken configs and installing gdm got you a fresh one
[07:56] <teltariat> Can someone help me understand the packaging process for Ubuntu? Like a place where I can see and use packages not yet in the production repos?
[07:56] <OrangeTux> :so
[07:57] <jmurrib21> thanks for that explanation jordan_u. well when I first boot ubuntu something appeared below the Ubuntu name saying that I needed to Skip or Mount manually the partition that wasn't found..
[07:57] <Dr_willis> !ppa | teltariat
[07:57] <ravindu> I reinstalled lightdm still not working
[07:57] <teltariat> ubottu: thank you
[07:57] <Jordan_U> Tyrope: No I didn't (if you don't use my full nick the message won't be higlighted in my client). I can't see any way to fix this without other boot media, unless possibly there is a BIOS setting which is wrong (LBA disabled or similar) which might fix things.
[07:57] <ravindu> so anyone know to fix those configs
[07:58] <Tyrope> Bios hasn't changed... I guess I'm going to ask if i can fetch my CD from home
[07:58] <Dr_willis> purge lightdm  - that will remove all the old configs..
[07:58] <Dr_willis> but it might  not be a config issue.
[07:58] <ravindu> yes I did that too
[07:58] <Tyrope> Thanks for your time, Jordan_U
[07:59] <ravindu> it didnt worked
[07:59] <Jordan_U> Tyrope: You're welcome.
[07:59] <Dr_willis> sounds like its some deeper issue then with lightdm,
[07:59] <teltariat> Dr_willis: thanks
[07:59] <ravindu> http://goo.gl/wkJd8
[07:59] <ravindu> this the thread I started if you like see in detail
[08:00] <Dewi> ravindu: you could try uninstalling lightdrm with config purge
[08:00] <Dewi> lightdm even
[08:00] <Dr_willis> not really a lot of detail at that url ravindu ...
[08:00] <Dr_willis> you can do 'sudo lightdm' at the console and start lightdm and see any error messages..
[08:00] <Dr_willis> but im still not clear on what lightdm is or is not doing.. you are saying its just not starting?
[08:01] <Dewi> Dr_willis: what's the current way to manage which services start?
[08:01] <Dr_willis> Dewi,  for upstart managed services you mess with the files in /etc/init/
[08:02] <Dewi> Dr_willis: how can you tell which ones run on boot, I mean
[08:02] <clcto> Dr_willis: "mess with" :)
[08:02] <Dr_willis> Dewi,  you disable the ones you dont via  /etc/init
[08:02] <Dr_willis> or the sysv stuff for older services. (which are actually still handled by upstart)
[08:03] <newbuntu> hey guys, ive setup a LAMP server using ubuntu. i want to start hosting but am unsure of firewall to use. i have a small business Cisco Router and a PFSense box which is better for security?
[08:03] <Ben66> newbuntu: you shouldn't need a firewall
[08:04] <Dewi> Dr_willis: I can never remember which runlevel I am in, let alone figure out all the symlinks
[08:04] <FreeBSD64> newbuntu: ufw comes with ubuntu and is easy
[08:04] <Dewi> Dr_willis: surely there is a tool...
[08:04] <FreeBSD64> newbuntu: if you're behind a router you can get away without one
[08:06] <Dr_willis> Dewi,  with upstart - ubuntu is moveing away from runlevels.
[08:07] <Dr_willis> Dewi,  so i have rarely needed to mess with the sysv stuff in ages
[08:07] <Dewi> Dr_willis: lots of stuff still seems to use sysv
[08:07] <Dewi> Dr_willis: if there are several approaches all fighting with eachother it seems even more important to have a tool that is aware of all of them...
[08:07] <Dr_willis> Dewi,  if you look.. its upstart manageing those ;)
 when I sudo lightdm it worked no errors
[08:08] <Dr_willis> ravindu,  stop lightdm and try 'sudo service lightdm start'
[08:08] <Dr_willis> wonder when they will move away from Upstart to that other init system.. i forget its name.. I think archlinux is using it now
[08:09] <FreeBSD64> systemd
[08:09] <FreeBSD64> ?
[08:09] <clcto> FreeBSD64: yes, thats what arch uses
[08:09] <Dr_willis> that sounds about right..
[08:09] <Dr_willis> from the little ive looked at it.. its rather.. weird. ;P
[08:09] <FreeBSD64> i tried it on gentoo for a bit
[08:10] <FreeBSD64> its better on supported distros...
[08:10] <FreeBSD64> fast though
[08:10] <ravindu> logi
[08:11] <b00b00> hello
[08:12] <Dr_willis> Jello
[08:13] <ahla> hi there
[08:13] <b00b00> how i replce a word in a file based on first char only of that word (word length is changable) in a text file? b4 that word, line is permanent in values/length
[08:13] <FreeBSD64> sed
[08:14] <Dr_willis> b00b00,  use of sed or awk - would be  tools for that job
[08:14] <b00b00> yeah, thanks
 when I run both command from desktop it gives black screen but with bot terminal it show login screen
[08:16] <FreeBSD64> cat /etc/make.conf
[08:17] <Dr_willis> ravindu,  what are you running 'from desktop' ? you should be starting lightdm from the CONSOLE, with out X going..
[08:17] <ravindu> yes I did that
[08:17] <ravindu> it worked no errors
[08:17] <Dr_willis> so i dont get what you are saying...
[08:17] <Dr_willis> it is 4 am here... ;P
[08:18] <Mrokii> Hello. What GUI utility can I use to make nautilus windows being reduced to the title-bar when double-clicked?
[08:18] <ravindu> sorry
[08:18] <loganlee> Mrokii, wat
[08:18] <Dr_willis> Mrokii,  compiz Might have a setting to  for that.. but i cant recall seeing it. thats a sort of an old skool feature. ;)
[08:18] <Mrokii> Dr_willis: I've had it in 12.10 and I love it.
[08:19] <Dr_willis> double click on title bar  sort of 'scrolls/minimizes the window into the title bbar'
[08:19] <ravindu> problem is lightdm not startin at boot up only boot into terminal
[08:19] <Mrokii> Dr_willis: Exactly.
[08:19] <Dr_willis> Mrokii,  i dont really see the point in it these days. ;)
[08:19] <Mrokii> I do.
[08:19] <ravindu> yes compiz have that setting
[08:20] <Dr_willis> i rarely ever minimize things...
[08:20] <Mrokii> Well, I do.
[08:20] <Mrokii> ravindu: Okay, I'll look. Ty.
[08:20] <clcto> Mrokii: just use a tiling wm like notion :)
[08:20] <loganlee> ravindu, /etc/inittab
[08:21] <Mrokii> I don't really like my windows manager mess around with my windows.
[08:21] <Mrokii> But that's not the point.
 no such file or directory
[08:22] <clcto> Mrokii: yeah i know, i just like converting people. and notion it is manual tiling so the wm doesnt mess with them
[08:22] <NarcTix> Mrokii I don t think upstart uses rc these days?
[08:23] <NarcTix> * initV
[08:23] <llutz> !runlevel
[08:23] <ravindu> anyway to troubleshoot why lightdm is not working at start up
[08:24] <NarcTix> ^^
[08:24] <NarcTix> see what ubottu said
[08:24] <Ben66> ravindu: how did you install
[08:24] <loganlee> ravindu, maybe ur default run level
[08:24] <Multiply> I need to keep a program running, that'll exit frequently. I previously used supervisord, and it works great. I want to be able to bind processes to a specific CPU-core, and I find myself quite limited. Any ideas?
[08:24] <llutz> loganlee: see what ubottu just said about runlevels
[08:25] <ravindu> install what?
[08:25] <NarcTix> sorry all above went to wrong user :)
[08:25] <Ben66> ravindu: ...ubuntu
[08:26] <NarcTix> loganlee see what ubottu responded before upstart doesent use inittab
[08:26] <ravindu> i used ubuntu alpha then to beta upgraded to normal version
[08:27] <ravindu> after final upgrade all went wrong
[08:27] <Ben66> ravindu: so it used to boot into gui?
[08:27] <ravindu> yes
[08:28] <Ben66> i would just reinstall if i were you
[08:28] <Dr_willis> ravindu,  if you do a 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm' does it show lightdm selected as the dfault?
[08:28] <Mrokii> Does anybody know where indicator-multiload saves its preferences?
[08:28] <NarcTix> ravindu , has and what has been updated before it broke?
[08:29] <NarcTix> anything been?
[08:29] <NarcTix> should have had *
[08:30] <Dr_willis> if 'sudo service lightdm restart' works.. You could just cheat and start it from rc.local   ;P
[08:31] <Hans_Henrik> did Ubuntu 12.04 desktop by default have that.. unity stuff?
[08:31] <Hans_Henrik> or was that still the gnome stuff?
[08:31] <ravindu_> http://askubuntu.com/questions/288507/after-upgrade-to-ubuntu-13-04-beta-to-stable-version-only-boot-into-terminal-pr
[08:31] <Dr_willis> !unity
[08:31] <ravindu_> original problem
[08:31] <Hans_Henrik> and what is the latest desktop LTS?
[08:31] <NarcTix> Dr_Willis high five :0
[08:31] <NarcTix> :)
[08:31] <NarcTix> *
[08:31] <Hans_Henrik> !notunity
[08:31] <Dr_willis> Hans_Henrik,   X.04 is the lts versions....
[08:32] <Ben66> Hans_Henrik: still 12.04
[08:32] <Hans_Henrik> thanks
[08:32] <Dr_willis> 12.04  :) then 14.04
[08:32] <Ben66> Dr_willis: not 13.04
[08:32] <llutz> Dr_willis: 13.04? not really
[08:32] <ravindu_> How to check whether lightdm service start at boot up?
[08:32] <Dr_willis> its 4 am. ;P
[08:32] <NarcTix> dr_willis ^^ was for the rc hack
[08:32] <Ben66> 1:32
[08:33] <WeThePeople> can somebody help me with this error in the terminal>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5663804/
[08:33] <ravindu_>  How to check whether lightdm service start at boot up?
[08:33] <Dr_willis>  NarcTix  id just use gdm.. :) it looks much nicer then lightdm.. and  has better feature set.
[08:33] <Dr_willis> ravindu_,  'sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm' like i mentioned earlier...
[08:33] <Dr_willis> ravindu_,  selects what *dm to use by default
[08:35] <ravindu_> lightdm
[08:35] <kvothetech> WeThePeople: uhm looks like a dependancy you need is missing or something
[08:36] <kvothetech> WeThePeople: dpkg-configure  libcdt4
[08:36] <kvothetech> it says that's the one that failed because it's not configured
[08:36] <NarcTix> Dr_Willis yeah lightdm +1 What I use on my Gentoo install.; I use gdm or kdm if its Gnome or Kde
[08:37] <NarcTix> Dr_Willis I use xfce on Gentoo
[08:37] <kvothetech> NarcTix: :) glad to see i'm not the only gentoo user here
[08:37] <Dr_willis> lightdm is just a little awkward in many ways..  and i had issues with it not showing up all the desktop sessions when i had a lot of them installed
[08:38] <laptopgobooboo>  hi, i have my friend's laptop and the keyboard works in the start and the resposnse in a funny way; like the CTRL(control) button was pressed hard
[08:38] <ravindu_> what is best? dm?
[08:38] <laptopgobooboo> can anyone help
[08:38] <kvothetech> ravindu_: depends what you prefer
[08:39] <Dr_willis> ravindu_,  i use gdm normally.
[08:39] <ravindu_> its ugly on my system
[08:39] <kvothetech> laptopgobooboo: keyboard layout?
[08:39] <laptopgobooboo> english us
[08:39] <Dr_willis> easier to select what desktop session to use. and looks nicer to me.. no idea what you mean by uglyu
[08:39] <NarcTix> kvothetech Will always love Gentoo. Ive done LFS (Linux from scratch) and Gentoo lets you jump so many steps ahead , i.e dont need to build the build enviroment. Im actually building my own distro at the momment on Gentoo.
[08:40] <kvothetech> yeah I did lfs then just went to gentoo...
[08:40] <kvothetech> same thing in the end or DAMN close to it...
[08:40] <ravindu_> what mint use?
[08:40] <Dr_willis> mint has 'mdm' i belive
[08:40] <NarcTix> remastersys probbably
[08:41] <laptopgobooboo> can anyone help me with a laptop problem
[08:41]  * Dr_willis really dosent get whats 'ugly' about gdm..   wallpaper and a  dialog box with  5 items in it...
[08:42] <kvothetech> laptopgobooboo: keyboard layout and locales ?
[08:42] <Ben66> i'm wondering how often people see that screen or grub to want to make it look fancy
[08:42] <Ben66> i restart like once or twice a month
[08:43] <llutz_> they spend far more time in customizing those, than they'll ever watch it
[08:43] <Dr_willis> my systm boots so fast.. i rarely even notice grub or lightdm
[08:43] <kvothetech> laptopgobooboo: all programs? just X just vtty?
[08:43] <mzaza_> While trying tot delete a folder on flash storage I get these error, http://pastebin.com/fpFnm7CN
[08:44] <kvothetech> The only time i spend in grub is if i'm doing a bunch of kickstarts other than that if i'm there i dont want to be
[08:44] <Ben66> mzaza: you should format the drive
[08:44] <shape> Can someone with 13.04 tell me which kernel version does it come from/does it update to?
[08:44] <Ben66> !info linux-image | shape
[08:44] <Mrokii> What could be the reason that I don't hear any sound after a fresh installation of 13.04?
[08:44] <Dewi> mzaza_: did you mount it read-write?
[08:44] <Dr_willis> shape,  i think 3.8 is in the repos.. but im using 3.9 on it
[08:44] <shape> Ben66: Thaanks!
[08:45] <shape> Dr_willis: HEY!!!!
[08:45] <shape> Dr_willis: I can tell you why yesterday it didnt work the compilation thing
[08:45] <Dr_willis> !screenshot
[08:45] <kvothetech> Mrokii: sound modules loaded? alsa? pulse? sound card? muted?
[08:45] <NarcTix> Ive never had any probs with either [k:g]dm they have always been good for me just use lightdm when using a different desktop i.e xfce
[08:46] <shape> Dr_willis: it was the tar file they didnt come with a configure. I also had older versions of autoconf. so I got the tar files from the original websites.
[08:46] <clcto_> SLiM is nice and simple
[08:46] <kvothetech> laptopgobooboo: does the kb only mess up in X, only for (v)tty? only some programs?
[08:46] <Dr_willis> http://imagebin.org/257582  my gdm setup. ;P
[08:46] <Mrokii> kvothetech: The sound isn't muted I think. It shows "on" in the Sound-setting. And I don't know what 13.04 installs as standard. I didn't change any settings regarding sounds yet. And how can I check if sound modules are loaded?
[08:46] <Ben66> Dr_willis: windows?!
[08:46] <kvothetech> Mrokii: lsmod
[08:47] <Dr_willis> vbox ;P
[08:47] <Ben66> windows host though
[08:47] <Dr_willis> yep.. video capture card dont work in linux.
[08:47] <Ben66> i thought you were one of us...
[08:48] <Dr_willis> write a driver for my expensive $12 video capture dongle. ;P
[08:48] <NarcTix> ^^ reminds me of PCI modems lol
[08:48] <Dr_willis> the company changed chipsets.. but not  the name/id of the product.. older ones had linux support. newer one did not
[08:48] <Dr_willis> so the reviews were wrong
[08:48] <kvothetech> oh god NarcTix you'd get a wintell chip or whatever in pretty much everything so nothing'd work lol
[08:48] <savagecroc> hi all.. i need to setup 5 developer machines with a LOT of software.  I really want to have a set of scripts that i can modify to run all the installation so i can modify them as we setup each new computer and if we get new computers in the future
[08:49] <savagecroc> i've got a few questions.. would the best way of doing this be.. boot up and install from USB and then setup everything via ssh?
[08:49] <Ben66> Dr_willis: get a pchdtv hd-5500, its what i use
[08:49] <FreeBSD64> savagecroc: so just a script that runs apt-get install on a load of programs?
[08:49] <kvothetech> savagecroc: you could do that or just make a post install script
[08:49] <Dr_willis> allready got this one. ;)  wife wont let me buy another.. heh.
[08:49] <NarcTix> kvothetech yeah it unfortunatley forced be back to windows 12 years ago
[08:50] <Ben66> Dr_willis: its so cool though... http://www.pchdtv.com/hd_5500.html
[08:50] <Mrokii> kvothetech: That's the output: http://pastebin.com/gHdGrwnC
[08:50] <NarcTix> kvothetech for 2 yearsanway was a poor student who had to use my ISPs modem. Yes modem not router :)
[08:51] <Dr_willis> Ben66,  im just using this $12 thing as a video capture card to convert vcr and other sources to video files
[08:51] <laptopgobooboo> kvothetech,  the key board layout that i use is english us
[08:51] <kvothetech> NarcTix: lol yeah
[08:51] <Ben66> Dr_willis: oh, i use mine for mythtv
[08:51] <kvothetech> laptopgobooboo: scroll up i asked another question ofter that
[08:51] <Dr_willis> Ben66,  i dont even have cable tv any more. ;P
[08:51] <kvothetech> Mrokii: looks like they  are...what's your default output set to in pavu or alsamixer
[08:51] <Ben66> me neither. free hd over the air :)
[08:52] <kvothetech> who pays for tv when any show worth watching is online free
[08:52] <Ben66> jeopardy in 720p every night :D
[08:52] <savagecroc> FreeBSD64: bit more complicated than that.. needs to setup configuration files
[08:52] <kvothetech> laptopgobooboo: does the kb only mess up in X, only for (v)tty? only some programs?
[08:52] <Dr_willis> that card dpsent seem to have  the old composite in.. so it wont work for me. ;P
[08:53] <kre10s> I got this machine... It dual boots windows & ubuntu. strangely it boots some kind of windows bootloader first. then you can select ubuntu which boots grub... how can i change this to boot grub right away.
[08:53] <laptopgobooboo> kvothetech, its hard to understan what you said,  keyboard is okay in the start after sometime it messes up
[08:53] <savagecroc> FreeBSD64: shove stuff in autoboot etc
[08:53] <Dr_willis> kre10s,  sounds like a WUBI install to me...
[08:53] <Dr_willis> kre10s,  boot to ubuntu and look at the disk partions, see if theres a /host/ mountpoint also..
[08:53] <laptopgobooboo> kvothetech, what is "X"
[08:53] <kvothetech> kre10s: grub-install /dev/sda or something like that
[08:54] <Dr_willis> or in windows look on the c: drive to see if theres a  wubi direcvtory
[08:54] <laptopgobooboo> kvothetech, and "(V)tty"
[08:54] <kvothetech> laptopgobooboo: X is the gui tty is the console
[08:54] <FreeBSD64> laptopgobooboo: X is the desktop basically
[08:54] <Dr_willis> kre10s,  if it IS a wubi install.. you may want to switch over to a normal ubuntu install and dump wubi
[08:54] <NarcTix> never trust windows (wubi)
[08:54] <Ben66> I built the hd antenna for $6, perfect reception http://i.imgur.com/dRZLJVp.jpg
[08:54] <kvothetech> Ben66: nice
[08:55] <savagecroc> Can someone give me the names of the software i should look at for setting up and doing 1. Full Disk Encryption   2. Multiple VMs using intel virtulisation tech   3. dual booting between ubuntu/windows
[08:55] <laptopgobooboo> kvothetech, FreeBSD64  i am new to ubuntu
[08:55] <Dr_willis> savagecroc,  grub handles booting.
[08:55] <Mrokii> kvothetech: What's pavu? And Gnome-Alsamixer doesn't start (Segmentation fault).
[08:56] <kvothetech> Mrokii: bad sign there when you get seg faults...uhm pavu is pulseaudios version of alsamixer
[08:56] <savagecroc> Dr_willis: ok so grub for switching between windows/ubuntu.. i just need to setup the partitions.  Do the partitions have to be fixed or is there some magic new dynamic partition tech that's come along in the last 4 years?
[08:56] <Dr_willis> !lvm
[08:56] <laptopgobooboo> kvothetech, i installed 13.04 erasing vista he said that he had this problem in vista also
[08:56] <Dr_willis> savagecroc,  i find it best to keep things simple.
[08:56] <kvothetech> savagecroc: lvm ?
[08:56] <savagecroc> ok
[08:56] <Dewi> savagecroc: fixed
[08:57] <savagecroc> ok.. what about entire disk encryption?
[08:57] <kvothetech> laptopgobooboo: so uhm it's a broken kb then ...take out the broken ctrl key?
[08:57] <NarcTix> mrokii what have you updated lately?
[08:57] <vjustme> hi
[08:57] <Dewi> savagecroc: there are dynamic partitions within OSes but not shared between them...
[08:57] <kvothetech> savagecroc: luks or truecrypt
[08:57] <FreeBSD64> savagecroc: luks
[08:57] <FreeBSD64> savagecroc: you could use virtualbox for vms
[08:57] <Mrokii> NarcTix: I only installed 13.04.
[08:57] <FreeBSD64> or kvm
[08:57] <FreeBSD64> which is slightly harder to set up
[08:57] <laptopgobooboo> kvothetech, i dont think it is only that control button
[08:57] <savagecroc> is lucks based on the entire disk or per partition?
[08:58] <NarcTix> mrokii a fresh install?
[08:58] <Mrokii> NarcTix: Yes.
[08:58] <kvothetech> savagecroc: by partition
[08:58] <FreeBSD64> savagecroc: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt_with_LUKS
[08:59] <vjustme> can someone help me with some logrotate q I have?
[08:59] <kvothetech> vjustme: nope out of 1500 people none of us can help you...ever
[09:00] <NarcTix> ^^ an Arch guide is unlikely to work (I havent read it)
[09:00] <vjustme> lol :)
[09:00] <FreeBSD64> http://57un.wordpress.com/2013/02/01/full-disk-encryption-using-ubuntu-in-most-secure-mode-with-aes-xts-plain64/
[09:00] <Dr_willis> arch docs are often handy to read. ;)
[09:00] <kvothetech> NarcTix: archwiki is one of the best....
[09:00] <Dr_willis> thats the best thing about arch...
[09:00] <muellisoft> !ask | vjustme
[09:00] <FreeBSD64> NarcTix: it was just for info on what is used
[09:00] <laptopgobooboo> kvothetech, thanks anyhow
[09:00] <savagecroc> in regards to kvm, i've heard that you have to setup a master OS and then have slave-os's under that.. would you have a very simple base-ubuntu-os and then setup a slave ubuntu os as the development environment
[09:00] <Mrokii> NarcTix: Sound has been working before when I had installed 12.10. But I wanted to start with a fresh installation and later copy back my config files.
[09:01] <savagecroc> or is there too much overhead in running the vm (i.e. everything runs slower)
[09:01] <FreeBSD64> savagecroc: kvm you just make the disks, similar to virtualbox but without a gui
[09:01] <kvothetech> savagecroc: yes you need a host os and a guest for ANY vm method kvm's pretty easy to use though
[09:01] <vjustme> ok :) well I suppose it's a fairly simple question but I am confused..
[09:01] <FreeBSD64> savagecroc: vms should run pretty much the same as a proper install except the graphics
[09:01] <savagecroc> FreeBSD64: excellent, i'd like to script it anyway.. so no gui is probably good
[09:01] <kvothetech> FreeBSD64: there's a gui for it but i wouldn't use it
[09:01] <FreeBSD64> savagecroc: virtualbox has VBoxManage
[09:02] <FreeBSD64> which can do more than the gui
[09:02] <FreeBSD64> and can be scripted
[09:02] <savagecroc> FreeBSD64: right.. so that probably means it's unsuitable for a development environment, but for running ubuntu server VMs it's probably ok
[09:02] <NarcTix> mrokkii sounds like it might be kernel modules . How many kernel updates did you hop?
[09:02] <Dewi> savagecroc: virtualbox is pretty good at both
[09:03] <savagecroc> FreeBSD64: would you run windows under as dual boot (purely work machine, but may run the adobe creative suite)... or as a VM?
[09:03] <FreeBSD64> savagecroc: if you use virtualbox with guest additions installed on the guest the graphics works pretty smoothly
[09:03] <savagecroc> Dwi: is there much of a performance hit?
[09:03] <FreeBSD64> savagecroc: if you need proper graphics acceleration then dual boot
[09:03] <Dewi> savagecroc: yeah, depends what you're doing though
[09:03] <savagecroc> these 5 machines all have 32gb of ram
[09:04] <savagecroc> ah nothing graphically that intensive
[09:04] <FreeBSD64> use the vm then
[09:04] <savagecroc> mostly just software development and office tools
[09:04] <kvothetech> savagecroc: then kvm should be fine...
[09:04] <FreeBSD64> yeah vm will be fine for that
[09:04] <Dewi> savagecroc: CPU is great, I/O is okay, 2D works okay, 3D acceleration works but is not good like real hardware
[09:04] <FreeBSD64> for windows i would use virtualbox
[09:04] <savagecroc> can luks be used to format a NTFS drive?
[09:04] <FreeBSD64> over kvm
[09:04] <savagecroc> FreeBSD64: virtual box it is :)
[09:05] <Dewi> savagecroc: sure but windows probably won't decrypt luks
[09:05] <Dewi> savagecroc: you probably want truecrypt for windows
[09:05] <jpds> Dewi: I think it can.
[09:05] <kvothetech> savagecroc: no reason it won't let you use luks
[09:05] <jpds> Dewi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeOTFE
[09:05] <Dewi> jpds: ah cool, had not seen that one.
[09:06] <savagecroc> ah right.. i want full disk encryption though
[09:06] <savagecroc> for "boxes" i think i'd just truecrypt
[09:06] <kvothetech> savagecroc: truecrypt does full disk....
[09:06] <Dewi> savagecroc: truecrypt has full system in windows
[09:06] <Dewi> savagecroc: not sure how nicely it plays with dual boot
[09:06] <FreeBSD64> savagecroc: truecrypt can do full disk after an install on the fly
[09:06] <Dewi> savagecroc: probably fine
[09:07] <FreeBSD64> Dewi: dual booting with truecrypt takes a bit of messing about
[09:07] <savagecroc> hmmm
[09:07] <FreeBSD64> with full disk
[09:07] <savagecroc> maybe i'd be better off
[09:07] <savagecroc> skipping dual booting alltogether
[09:07] <Dewi> savagecroc: what's the primary env for the actual users?
[09:07] <savagecroc> and just using luis to encrypt ubuntu.. and run VMs
[09:07] <savagecroc> Dewi: 95% ubuntu
[09:07] <FreeBSD64> it would be simpler
[09:08] <savagecroc> lol.. i'm making a lot of notes..
[09:08] <savagecroc> ok for document versioning (office documents)... just use git?
[09:09] <kvothetech> savagecroc: that's one method
[09:09] <FreeBSD64> savagecroc: just bear in mind git is public
[09:09] <Dewi> FreeBSD64: only if you make it public
[09:09] <NarcTix> what hd encryption does Ubuntu use if you select it on the instal?
[09:09] <kvothetech> FreeBSD64: ? you can make a private git
[09:09] <FreeBSD64> Dewi: you have to pay otherwise
[09:09] <Dewi> FreeBSD64: git != github
[09:09] <savagecroc> oh i don't want to use github
[09:09] <kvothetech> NarcTix: luks i'd assume..it's more or less the standard
[09:09] <FreeBSD64> ah ok :)
[09:10] <savagecroc> basically we have 2 users that have to share and collaborate on 1000's of office documents, then the other 3 need a subset of those document
[09:10] <Dewi> savagecroc: office formats aren't readily diff/patchable as far as I've seen
[09:10] <savagecroc> they have a well defined folder heirachy which defines what directory should have what files
[09:11] <savagecroc> Dewi: that's ok.. as long as we can get at older versions
[09:11] <Dewi> savagecroc: yeah, just saying that if multiple people are editing at the same time the version control won't help you merge like it would with code
[09:11] <savagecroc> so i suppose the things to consider would be things like manually rsyncing between computers
[09:11] <greek> Hi. I have successfully created a public key for server1 (ubuntu server edition) and uploaded it to server2's authorized_keys (also ubuntu server edition) using ssh-copy-id however when i try scp from server 1 to server 2 i still get password prompt - any idea what's wrong? I repeated this exact process from my ubuntu desktop to server1 and that works just fine (although the first time i logged in from my desktop i got a window popup prompt, but never again)
[09:11] <Dewi> savagecroc: and in such a situation you want track changes or google docs or something
[09:11] <savagecroc> Dewi: yeah, we were thinking more one person edits at a time
[09:12] <savagecroc> Dewi: we can't use google docs unfortunately, that's where all our documents currently exist
[09:12] <kvothetech> ouch
[09:12] <Dewi> savagecroc: dropbox is nice in that it's immediate so people don't tend to edit from outdated base versions
[09:12] <NarcTix> greek sounds like you havent enabled keys in sshd.conf
[09:12] <Dewi> savagecroc: you'll have to watch out for that on anything that isn't so immediate
[09:12] <savagecroc> Dewi: i need a solution that doesn't require going onto the internet :D
[09:12] <savagecroc> it's very unreliable
[09:12] <greek> NarcTix, ok thanks is that something simple to explain or should i rather google it?
[09:13] <Dewi> savagecroc: unreliable?
[09:13] <kvothetech> greek do you have rsaauth enabled in your sshd_config or dsaauth
[09:13] <llutz> greek: use "ssh -vvv user@server2" to get more verbose logs. check the output for reasons why the keys aren't working
[09:13] <savagecroc> Dewi: yeah.. cental china.. enough said
[09:13] <NarcTix> !ssh keys
[09:13] <vjustme> logrotate in Ubuntu is configured by default to run in a daily basis, as configured in /etc/cron.daily/logrotate .My question is: I want to configure logrotate so that it will checks Apache’s log files every 1h and if exceed a specified size it would rotate them. Normally I would specify it in cron. Will it affect logrotate’s default configurations if I do so? I mean there is an entry in
[09:13] <vjustme> /etc/logrotate/apache2 . If I remove this file, how will it affect logrotate?
[09:14] <Dewi> savagecroc: you can probably set up something pretty good with either rsync or git, the trick is getting it close to immediate so people don't edit old versions, but without syncs smashing into whatever people are doing
[09:14] <kvothetech> vjustme: ? you can edit the defaults or remove logging entirely....
[09:14] <Muelli> vjustme: it will not rotate apache logs
[09:15] <savagecroc> Dewi: yeah :/
[09:15] <Dewi> savagecroc: how close are these people? network drive?
[09:15] <savagecroc> Dewi: all in the same office
[09:15] <vjustme> what are the default's logrotate configuration about? does it rotate just those defined in /etc/logrotate/ or does it affect every log file?
[09:15] <savagecroc> Dewi: yeah could use a network drive...
[09:15] <Dewi> savagecroc: probably a windows (cifs/smb) file share or nfs would be easiest then
[09:16] <greek> NarcTix, I checked /etc/ssh/sshd_config and keys look to be enabled
[09:16] <savagecroc> Dewi: are there any network drives that support the standard ACL extensions?
[09:16] <kvothetech> greek: add -vv to the ssh cmd to see what the error is then..did you chmod 600 your key file?
[09:16] <NarcTix> greek can you pastebin your sshd_config
[09:17] <greek> kvothetech, yeah I'm busy doing as llutz said, the output is quite long busy working through it
[09:17] <Dewi> savagecroc: not sure, I'd definitely bet on nfs more than samba for that, but nfs always scares me away with its ancient insecure defaults
[09:17] <savagecroc> yeah
[09:17] <kvothetech> k
[09:18] <Tyrope> I have returned, now with liveusb. How would one go about reinstalling grub (the one with the UI) where the only program with internet access is firefox?
[09:19] <kvothetech> savagecroc: nfs does..as does ext3/4....
[09:19] <savagecroc> kvothetech: oh very nice
[09:19] <savagecroc> ok
[09:19] <Hadogenes> Greetings
[09:19] <savagecroc> so i could setup a nfs share with full ACL extensions
[09:19] <vjustme> kvothetech: I don't want to make changes that will affect the logging process for the rest of the services, just for Apache btw
[09:20] <NarcTix> Depends how you want to install grub and from what enviroment? but the basic is to install to the mbr and then it redirects to the boot sector on the hd
[09:20] <savagecroc> i.e. setfacel --modify group:blabla:rwx,default:group:blabla:rex something
[09:20] <kvothetech> Tyrope: the only program with internet being firefox you still need more than grub you need probably at least iptables and selinux
[09:20] <greek> NarcTix, heya here is the paste: http://pastie.org/7906278
[09:21] <kvothetech> and the rest of the minimal base userland...and the ff dep's
[09:21] <kvothetech> NarcTix: you can get ff to run from grub?
[09:22] <greek> NarcTix, it's identical to the sshd_config on server1, which I can ssh in to from my desktop without prompt just fine. However when I try ssh from server1 to server2 (both server edition ubuntu) i get password prompt.
[09:22] <Tyrope> Kvothetech: school proxy, don't know how to send apt through the http-only proxy, system is tight here
[09:22] <nevyn> Tyrope: apt will happily use http.
[09:22] <nevyn> Tyrope: does the proxy need authentication?
[09:22] <NarcTix> greek you need to uncomment RSAAuthentication yes
[09:23] <NarcTix> PubkeyAuthentication yes
[09:23] <NarcTix> #AuthorizedKeysFile     %h/.ssh/authorized_keys
[09:23] <greek> NarcTix, i have a feeling my desktop is configuring something when it asks me for the password prompt in a popup window the first time i ssh (it only does that once after i configure the public key for server 1)
[09:23] <kvothetech> Tyrope: apt uses http...
[09:23] <kvothetech> NarcTix: hmm thought he said he uncommented rsaauth
[09:23] <Tyrope> Nevyn: nope, just needs to go through local ip proxy.zadkine.net
[09:23] <nevyn> Tyrope: did you read the manual?
[09:24] <kvothetech> Tyrope: i think i misunderstood i thought you wanted to install grub nd make a system that only lets ff use the internet
[09:24] <Tyrope> No, sorry. I have the system it just broke so I need to reinstall gnu grub
[09:25] <dawkirst> Hi all, what would be the easiest way to expose a web server on the web without forwarding port 80 to the machine in the router?
[09:25] <Tyrope> Nevyn: yes, system settings have http proxy but it doesn't use the proxies dns
[09:25] <greek> NarcTix, I just tried that and it didn't work (I restarted ssh). I still get password prompt
[09:26] <greek> fwiw, that line is commented out on server1 (which i can ssh into from my desktop without password prompt just fine)
[09:26] <kvothetech> grub-install <partition> is how i do it but i use grub1 not 2
[09:26] <evstevemd> my nautilus bookmark are gone (not shown) any reason? All I changed it I upgraded to Kernel 3.9
[09:26] <Tyrope> Yeah, I don't know grub commands
[09:26] <kvothetech> greek did you pastebin the -vv results
[09:26] <savagecroc> i'm just reading the setup page with LUKS.. am i getting this right... 1. I need a bootable USB ubuntu image so i can wipe the SDD   2. setup the partitions etc ?
[09:26] <nevyn> Tyrope: so you can't dns resolve localy?
[09:26] <Hadogenes> dawkirst What do you want to achieve? There might be alternate ways
[09:26] <Tyrope> Nevyn: they'll all resolve to a dead internal ip
[09:27] <Tyrope> So no
[09:27] <Hadogenes> dawkirst You could change the port if you don't intend to make it 'public'
[09:27] <kvothetech> savagecroc: you need a bootable usb or something to partition anyway..unless you're just modifying existing ones
[09:27] <nevyn> Tyrope: ok that's a little special.
[09:27] <nevyn> umm..
[09:27] <Tyrope> Nevyn: the network admin here is an idiot
[09:28] <NarcTix> geek  For this to work you will also need host keys in /etc/ssh_known_hosts
[09:28] <NarcTix> RhostsRSAAuthentication no
[09:28] <NarcTix> greek For this to work you will also need host keys in /etc/ssh_known_hosts
[09:28] <NarcTix> RhostsRSAAuthentication no
[09:28] <Tyrope> FF connects fine if I tell it to detect network proxy settings
[09:28] <Dewi> dawkirst: to expose it you'll need to open some kind of port. It doesn't have to be 80, although that will affect your urls
[09:28] <NarcTix> sorry for typo lol
[09:29] <dawkirst> Hadogenes, I don't really mind it being public, but we don't really have access to the router. So I was thinking along the lines of a VPN or something.
[09:29] <kvothetech> NarcTix: he has that or should if he got a pw prompt it's aleardy in the hosts file...rhosts rsaauth i'd set to yes though
[09:29] <Hadogenes> dawkirst You need a port redirected to your server if you want to access it. No other way.
[09:30] <nevyn> oh. system-settings == some gui thing?
[09:30] <nevyn> apt probably doesn't honour that.
[09:30] <greek> NarcTix, not sure how to interpret your last comment with typo
[09:30] <Hadogenes> dawkirst Define "don't really have access", maybe there is a way around it
[09:31] <greek> kvothetech, nope i didn't one sec i will now
[09:31] <dawkirst> Hadogenes, I see your point. No access: no login.
[09:31] <Tyrope> Nevyn: apt doesn't listen to ubuntu's network settings?
[09:31] <nevyn> not the ones for your user...
[09:31] <nevyn> maybe.
[09:31] <Ben66> dawkirst: you shouldn't be running a server on a network you don't control
[09:31] <nevyn> but package manager should
[09:32] <Hadogenes> Ben66 Didn't cross my mind, could be a virus.
[09:32] <Hadogenes> Still, sounds like an interesting challenge.
[09:32] <Tyrope> I found a website that tells me to add ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair
[09:32] <greek> kvothetech, NarcTix, here is the paste of ssh -vv: http://pastie.org/7906309
[09:33] <dawkirst> Ben66, sometimes you have to do with what you've got.
[09:33] <Tyrope> But that gives a couldn't connect to host
[09:33] <kvothetech> Ben66: uhm running a server on a network you don't control is what everyone who has a server in a datacenter does...
[09:33] <Ben66> Tyrope: won't work if apt can't resolve
[09:33] <Tyrope> Ben: exactly
[09:33] <Ben66> kvothetech: you know what i mean
[09:33] <Tyrope> Any way to download it through Firefox?
[09:33] <mariola> i did try to update(Not to a new version just normal updates) and now "the packet system is damaged"
[09:33] <Ben66> dawkirst: servers are cheap
[09:33] <greek> NarcTix, kvothetech, fwiw the key I generated is called sshkey-apollo
[09:33] <Hadogenes> Anyways, have you tried accessing the router? Maybe the default password is set
[09:34] <Ben66> Tyrope: can't you use real internet?
[09:34] <nevyn> kvothetech: nuh-uh.
[09:34] <llutz> greek: ssh -i keyfilename user@host
[09:34] <mariola> i tried to install a Driver for an multi function printer,scanner and it makes problems, what can i do to delete it?
[09:34] <nevyn> not if it's your leased floorspace.
[09:34] <Tyrope> If the exact proxy settings were known, yes... Did I mention the network admin here is an idiot?
[09:34] <llutz> greek: same for scp, "scp -i keyfilename file host:"
[09:35] <Ben66> Tyrope: but if firefox works, there must be an accessible dns server
[09:35] <nevyn> Tyrope: try to make wget work.
[09:35] <Tyrope> Ben: yup, the proxy is the dns.
[09:35] <nevyn> then work from there.
[09:36] <Ben66> Tyrope: whats the ip of said proxy?
[09:36] <llutz> greek: add host/user/keyfilename to ~/.ssh/config  if you don't like to type that everytime you need it (man ssh   for details)
[09:36] <nevyn> Ben66: it's legitmate to prevent resolution internally and have the proxy do it.
[09:36] <gustav_> Can I make exim4 an IMAP server?
[09:36] <llutz> gustav_: no
[09:36] <dawkirst> Hadogenes, Ben66, it's not that we can't get access if we really wanted to, but we're guests here, and we don't want to start messing around with our hosts' network settings.
[09:37] <llutz> gustav_: exim4 is smtp, use dovecot for imap
[09:37] <gustav_> llutz: Access mail recieved by exim4 via IMAP?
[09:37] <Ben66> dawkirst: but you're cool hosting stuff without their knowledge?
[09:37] <kvothetech> Tyrope: so in /etc/resolv.conf set the proxy ip as your dns server...
[09:37] <gustav_> Ok.
[09:38] <dawkirst> Ben66, it's an internal file / dev server.
[09:38] <Hadogenes> dawkirst There is no way anything can connect to your computer without having a port redirecting from the router to it.
[09:38] <dawkirst> Hadogenes, thanks.
[09:38] <prodigel> Hi all, Since this morning I'm having connectivity issues in linux (ubuntu 12.10), while in windows (using it now sadly) it works without any problem. The device is a realtek gigabit RTL8188 (I think), problems persisted even in recovery mode. I've installed also the latest drivers from Realtek, no change. Any ideas how can I debug this? Thanks
[09:38] <Tyrope> Change nameserver?
[09:38] <Hadogenes> forwarded*
[09:38] <gustav_> llutz: It says Dovecot is MDA, isn't that sendmail?
[09:39] <dawkirst> Hadogenes, just thought there was maybe an alternative.
[09:39] <Hadogenes> dawkirst What are you trying to achieve?
[09:39] <llutz> gustav_: sendmail is a mta, not mda (mail delivery agent vs transport agent)
[09:39] <Hadogenes> dawkirst Maybe you don't need a web serber
[09:39] <gustav_> llutz: Oh, sorry.
[09:39] <kvothetech> prodigel: what're you using to set your network up etc what's it doing can you get in network or just localhost
[09:39] <prodigel> Correction there, the device is a Realtek RTL8168/8111
[09:40] <prodigel> kvothetech: it's using dhcp, but the most basic ping test fails
[09:40] <Guest18850> Hello all:) I have a lvm that I want to have mounted on boot. In the /etc/fstab file, what would I use for the 'type' column? I have not formatted the lvm. Do I have to format the lvm if I want to place it in fstab?
[09:40] <dawkirst> Hadogenes, that might be the best.
[09:40] <kvothetech> prodigel: ok ip addr and ip route and cat /etc/resolv.conf any hints
[09:40] <prodigel> kvothetech: i.e. pinging the gateway which is in the LAN fails also
[09:40] <vjustme> Let me redefine my initial question: Does log rotation by utilizing logrotate applies to every log file created, or just those listed under /etc/logrodate.d/ directory?
[09:41] <llutz> Guest18850: sure, lvm is a partition-format but you mount filesystems. so you have to create a filesystem on the partition you want to mount
[09:41] <kvothetech> Guest18850: you need a physical volume then a volume group then a logical volume you format the logical volume then add that to /etc/fstab it'll be something like /dev/mapper/blahvg-blah
[09:41] <greek> llutz, when using -i, must i specify sshkey or sshkey.pub ?
[09:41] <llutz> greek: sshkey
[09:41] <kvothetech> greek: the private
[09:42] <greek> llutz, ok so once i've copied the pub to my remote host i can delete it
[09:42] <llutz> greek: .pub is what you should have copied to the remote host before
[09:42] <greek> i won't need it for other remote hosts
[09:42] <greek> ok
[09:42] <llutz> greek: you could, but better to keep a backup. who knows...
[09:43] <NarcTix> does anyone have an ssh for noobs!
[09:43] <Hadogenes> NarcTix sounds like a good tutorial idea
[09:43] <NarcTix> !ssh
[09:43] <shape> NarcTix: what do you mean by that
[09:43] <Hadogenes> NarcTix Anything you wnto to know in particular?
[09:43] <greek> lol
[09:43] <kvothetech> NarcTix: ?  ssh is pretty noobishly easy to use anyway
[09:43] <NarcTix> lol
[09:43] <greek> NarcTix is referring to me guys haha
[09:44] <lck> xchat is what?
[09:44] <Muelli> !info xchat
[09:44] <Guest18850> thanks llutz and kvothetech.. I had done the physical volume, volume group and logical volume part, wasn't sure if I had to format it as well. Thanks..
[09:44] <greek> llakey, ok so i try this: ssh -i sshkey-apollo<EMAIL_ADDRESS>but then i still get Enter passphrase for key 'sshkey-apollo':
[09:45] <NarcTix> Ive written bash, python, perl, pascal. Scripts or programs to work with ssh lol
[09:45] <greek> sorry llakey that was meant for llutz
[09:45] <llakey> :)
[09:46] <llutz> greek: 1st. allowing ssh-access for root is a bad idea. 2nd. what was the exact ssh-copy-id command you issued?
[09:46] <NarcTix> I dont need telling how to use it :)
[09:46] <greek> llutz, ssh-copy-id -i sshkey-apollo.pub<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[09:46] <greek> llutz, yeah i know root is bad it's just for testing / learning on my lan
[09:47] <NarcTix> When Im sober that is ^^
[09:47] <kvothetech> NarcTix: lol :)
[09:48] <llutz> greek: and root account is activated on server2 and "PermitRootLogin yes" set  in sshd_config?
[09:49] <Muelli> greek: well. it asks you to unlock your ssh key. That is because a) you created a key and protected it with a passphrase and b) because you have no ssh-agent running. You can either create a key w/o a passphrase or run an ssh-agent (gnome-keyring does that I think)
[09:49] <NarcTix> allowing root wont fix it lmfao
[09:49] <greek> Muelli, oh ok so when I use ssh-keygen I musn't type in the server2's password
[09:50] <greek> woah talk about a face-palm moment
[09:50] <jony_easyrider> int the workgroup my Ubuntu 12.04 desktop PC is not visible, why?
[09:50] <Muelli> greek: the key does not have anything to do with a password on the server. So: No. That passphrase is purely meant to protect the key on its own.
[09:51] <kvothetech> ?
[09:51] <kvothetech> jony_easyrider: ?
[09:51] <jony_easyrider> I've figured out: samba was not installed
[09:52] <W4NGNULL> HI
[09:52] <greek> Muelli, that worked. llutz, kvothetech sorry I wasted your time! But I learnt a lot in the process so thanks anyway
[09:52] <greek> Muelli, thanks!
[09:52] <NarcTix> greek you need to sort this to yes # For this to work you will also need host keys in /etc/ssh_known_hosts
[09:52] <NarcTix> RhostsRSAAuthentication no
[09:52] <greek> NarcTix, ok
[09:52] <NarcTix> your config disables rsa
[09:52] <Sbeach92> hi! I get following errors when trying to build dvb drivers http://pastebin.com/RJFwDM9q Can someone help me to proceed?
[09:53] <greek> NarcTix, using dsa?
[09:53] <greek> make a difference?
[09:53] <NarcTix> I said that about an hour earlier
[09:53] <greek> NarcTix, sorry missed that
[09:53] <NarcTix> maybe 1 sec
[09:53] <llutz> NarcTix: if you read his paste from then, you see you are wrong
[09:54] <Muelli> Sbeach92: your CFLAGS are too strict for that code (i.e. the code is too poor quality ;-) ). You can try to "export CFLAGS=-O2" before doing the make.
[09:54] <llutz> greek: nothing to worry, you still have RSAAuthentication yes
[09:54] <Ben66> Sbeach92: why are you compliling stuff? surely v4l already exists in a package? what version of ubuntu?
[09:54] <NarcTix> llutz where?
[09:55] <llutz> NarcTix: pastie.org/7906278
[09:55] <brainysmurf> pecl install pam results in "install the PAM library" error
[09:56] <Sbeach92> Ben66 my dvb cards needs some modules to work. ubuntu is lastest lts
[09:56] <brainysmurf> So how to install the PAM library then?
[09:56] <Ben66> Sbeach92: ok... if you're on 12.04 then how come you're in /usr/src/linux-headers-3.0.0-13-generic
[09:56] <NarcTix> from source like all us old skoolers had to
[09:57] <brainysmurf> NarcTix I thought that's what package managers solved
[09:58] <Muelli> brainysmurf: can you pastebin more context?
[09:58] <gustav_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5664005/ Hmm?
[09:58] <NarcTix> brainysmrf pam should be installed by dedfault. I thought you meant version . I am also drunk after a 12 hour night shift.
[09:58] <Sbeach92> hmm it seems that i have missed latest update im runnig 11.10
[10:00] <NarcTix> brainysmurf how many distros hav3e you used?
[10:00] <brainysmurf> NarcTix My php app is using pam_auth but isn't able to find it
[10:00] <brainysmurf> I'm not installing pam on the box but the pam libraries so that php can access them
[10:00] <brainysmurf> NarcTix: Just Ubuntu
[10:01] <NarcTix> brainysmurf on your own server or a shared host?
[10:01] <brainysmurf> My own, full root
[10:02] <brainysmurf> Next step is to configure the system pam to user Kerberos in the stack for SSO
[10:03] <brainysmurf> *use
[10:04] <NarcTix> brainysmurf if your on a network and dont want to use active directory kerberos rules!
[10:06] <brainysmurf> So how do I get my php to be able to call pam_auth?
[10:07] <savagecroc> is it possible to install ubuntu entirely from the command line?
[10:07] <savagecroc> Ubuntu Desktop 12.04 that is
[10:07] <shegman> how do i enable surround sound with hdmi in ubuntu 12.04?
[10:08] <NarcTix> you cant on a shared host
[10:08] <Ben66> savagecroc: alternate cd
[10:08] <savagecroc> Ben66: what's does that mean?
[10:08] <arcripex> guys help my ubuntu 13.04 keeps givn errors
[10:09] <kvothetech> shegman: pavucontrol and set your output to surround hdmi
[10:09] <Ben66> savagecroc: theres an alternate cd which installs in a text based mode
[10:09] <kvothetech> arcripex: what errors
[10:09] <savagecroc> Ben66: ah ok.. can you script the install?
[10:09] <Ben66> not sure
[10:10] <arcripex> kvothetech....errors like your ubuntu has  sum errors
[10:10] <shegman> kvmadsen, in pavucontrol there is only hdmi/display port. no surround...
[10:11] <brainysmurf> http://pastebin.com/9Nm5qzQd
[10:11] <arcripex> kvothetech: skype does not even open
[10:11] <arcripex> fails to launch
[10:12] <shegman> kvothetech,
[10:12] <shegman> kvothetech, in pavucontrol there is only hdmi/display port. no surround...
[10:12] <gustav_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5664005/ Hey! Help with Dovecot!
[10:21] <spartanfx803> good morning
[10:21] <spartanfx803> How can i access files in a .dd image file?
[10:22] <Ben66> spartanfx803: we'd need more information
[10:22] <kvothetech> shegman: uhm soundcard?
[10:23] <kvothetech> er nvm...
[10:24] <shegman> kvothetech, dont know what uhm means, but i have an ati video card. the fglrx driver is up and working. only surround is not. the rear speakers work only as extended stereo
[10:24] <kvothetech> spartanfx803: dd if=dd.img of=Whereveryouwantto rewritethedatato
[10:24] <spartanfx803> Ben66: I build an imagefile using testdisk of my dameged usb drive, the image is a .dd file. Now how i can access the data in that file?
[10:25] <Ben66> spartanfx803: you may be able to mount it, depends on partition structure
[10:25] <spartanfx803> kvothetech:: I build an imagefile using testdisk of my dameged usb drive, the image is a .dd file. Now how i can access the data in that file?
[10:25] <kvothetech> shegman: you can mount it you can write it to somewhere with the above...
[10:25] <spartanfx803> Ben66: i think probably is fat32
[10:26] <Ben66> spartanfx803: pastebin the output of... "sfdisk -l -uS file.dd"
[10:29] <epicads> yay
[10:29] <epicads> anyone here
[10:33] <dry[1]> hi. ubuntu 12.04.02 ibus problem: symbol suggestions [space press] are not working [in anthy (m17n)]
[10:33] <brainysmurf> PHP message: PHP Fatal error:  Call to undefined function pam_auth()
[10:33] <simosx> which IRC channel is for the UDS?
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> !alis | simosx
[10:34] <spartanfx803> Ben66: Ok, done
[10:34] <simosx> Tip: to figure out when the UDS starts, click http://goo.gl/y2IRm (redirects to timeanddate.com, which shows a countdown).
[10:34] <Ben66> spartanfx803: the goal is to show the pastebin url in here
[10:34] <spartanfx803> Ben66: sfdisk -l -uS <myfile>.dd i got an error
[10:34] <Ben66> spartanfx803: what error
[10:35] <spartanfx803> Ben66: output says in italian can't  get geometry
[10:35] <simosx> lotuspsychje, thanks
[10:35] <spartanfx803> Ben66: and that the sector 0 hasn't a geometry.
[10:35] <Ben66> spartanfx803: what about "file <yourfile>.dd"
[10:36] <spartanfx803> Ben66: my file's name is image.dd, and is a 4 GB FLASH disk image done with testdisk.
[10:36] <rhaus> Hi, Lubuntu black screen after hard disk install with VIA S3 UniChrome onboard card, is there how to reconfigure to solve?
[10:36] <Ben66> spartanfx803: file is a command
[10:36] <spartanfx803> hum
[10:36] <spartanfx803> ok sorry
[10:36] <spartanfx803> forgotten
[10:37] <lotuspsychje> Ben66: you getting older every day, i liked Ben64 more :p
[10:37] <Ben66> lotuspsychje: its because of all the ddos stuff :)
[10:37] <shegman> is ubuntu capable to play surround through hdmi at all? only the analog output in pavucontrol shows 5.1 output options
[10:37] <spartanfx803> Ben64: file image.dd -----> image.dd: data
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: you or freenode getting dd?
[10:38] <Ben64> spartanfx803: doesn't seem like theres a partition at all
[10:38] <Ben64> lotuspsychje: freenode
[10:38] <spartanfx803> hum
[10:38] <lotuspsychje> ic
[10:38] <spartanfx803> Ben64: i think that's raw data
[10:39] <Ben64> spartanfx803: you may be able to recover some stuff with ......... i forgot the name of it
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> Ben64: photorec, inside testdisk
[10:39] <spartanfx803> Ben64: photorec?
[10:39] <Ben64> yeah! that
[10:39] <spartanfx803> Ben64: let's go for a try.
[10:39] <lotuspsychje> spartanfx803: its the most fantastic recovery package ever
[10:39] <spartanfx803> Ben64: i'll be away for a few
[10:39] <spartanfx803> i kow
[10:39] <spartanfx803> i know
[10:41] <Guest86129> hello my nvidia geforce 8800 gt GPU stopped working...I found this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi43AmDsyNU after seeing that a question arises: why toasting GPU might fix it when sellers carefully care about avoiding overheating, attaching fan and sink for regular use?
[10:42] <spartanfx803> Ben64: yeah i didn't mind of photorec... too much stuff to recover and rearm or restore. Fuckin' USB and my memory.
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> Guest86129: on wich ubuntu version?
[10:42] <lotuspsychje> spartanfx803: keep polite plz mate
[10:42] <spartanfx803> lotuspsychje: sorry
[10:43] <Guest86129> ubuntu 12.04 but that is not a system problem...I found 3d acceleration was not working on my dual booted windows either...
[10:43] <Lasse-> Guest86129: Because 8-series had problems with solderjoints breaking.
[10:44] <lotuspsychje> Guest86129: for hardware problems try ##hardware,
[10:44] <Guest86129> thanks
[10:44] <Lasse-> Hot air gun melts them again and with luck you get the card working but from what I have read, the fixes usually do not last too long.
[10:44] <Lasse-> and also, this is not hardware-channel :)
[10:46] <exw526> Hi, I installed ubuntu using wubi from Windows. I've been using it without problems but recently am having problems with disk space, it seems that Ubuntu has his its limit. But it's not on a partition because of the way Wubi installs it. Is there any way to check what this limit is (I think it may have been set during install from Wubi?) and change it?
[10:47] <spartanfx803> Ben64: Done and successfully. recovered alla files. Do you know if there is an option to recover also the filenames?
[10:47] <Guest86129> Guest86129> hello
[10:47] <Guest86129> * ##hardware :Cannot send to channel
[10:47] <Lasse-> Guest86129: Hardware probably needs you authenciate your nick.
[10:47] <Lasse-> You can privatemessage me if you got some questions.
[10:47] <Lasse-> about that Nvidia-thing.
[10:48] <lotuspsychje> spartanfx803: dont think its possible filenames
[10:49] <spartanfx803> lotuspsychje: thanks
[10:49] <Berazu_> Hi, I've got the Lenovo ThinkPad Edge 420S... I am having issues with my ATI 6630M... Are there any useful drivers for it?
[10:49] <lotuspsychje> Berazu_:did you check additional drivers section?
[10:54] <exw526> Hi - if Ubuntu is installed using Wubi from Windows, does it only have access to a set amount of disk space? If this is the case, can that amount limit be changed?
[10:54] <mi6x3m> hey ubuntu, how can I boot into terminal mode
[10:54] <mi6x3m> without any GUI
[10:54] <mi6x3m> any shortcuts to activate this?
[10:55] <troulouliou_dev> hi i m seeing cinnamon in the ubuntu packages; is it now an official desktop solution for ubuntu ?
[10:55] <olivier_> I have a problem with connecting to my Arduino. Where should I ask my question?
[10:55] <troulouliou_dev> olivier_, #arduino
[10:56] <olivier_> thanks
[10:56] <Myrtti> exw526: at the time you need to give it more space, it's time to ditch wubi and do a proper dualboot installation
[10:56] <olivier_> it's an ubuntu and arduino problem. It says I can't connect to ttyACM0, cause it's ttyACM1. Then I set my avrdude to ttyACM1 and it changes to ACM0
[10:57] <olivier_> I'm using eclipse
[10:57] <olivier_> on ubuntu 13.04
[10:57] <lotuspsychje> exw526: or single boot ubuntu and loose windows once and for good :p
[10:57] <alex88> mi6x3m:: single mode maybe?
[10:57] <exw526> Myrtti: does this mean installing from scratch or can I transfer the existing install to a different partition?
[10:58] <Aaruni> my ubuntu keeps reporting system problems with lsb_release. I read this : http://askubuntu.com/questions/268394/my-newly-installed-ubuntu-12-04-keeps-crashing-can-anyone-help , and it seems that it means hardware problems. Can anyone confirm ?
[10:58] <Aaruni> its 12.04, LTS
[10:59] <lotuspsychje> Aaruni: can you tell us on wich hardware?
[10:59] <Myrtti> exw526: as the instructions include "take backups of /home/ (and /etc and /var if needed) and all the important stuff on Windows" it doesn't really matter that much. I've not tried transferring myself so I can't really tell.
[11:00] <Aaruni> Dell Inspiron N5010. Its laptop. A new WD 500 GB disk, Intel core i3, 4 gb ram, and Mobility Radeon HD 5470, lotuspsychje
[11:00] <darth> #channels
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> Aaruni: what kind of crashing we talk about? freeze? reboot?
[11:01] <Ahasvero> Hi everyone
[11:01] <nicknarrator> hi there
[11:02] <Aaruni> lotuspsychje: it just comes "Ubuntu has experienced a system problem" and in the more info, there is the path to lsb_release. I don't see any noticeable difference in my experience, but I was curious as to why this happens. A google search showed that link, lotuspsychje
[11:03] <Ahasvero> i was trying to get DartEditor running on Ubuntu 64
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> Aaruni: http://askubuntu.com/questions/230766/how-lsb-module-affects-system-and-can-be-made-available-to-the-system
[11:05] <Aaruni> lotuspsychje: I get "No LSB modules are available." . but then, why the error, every now and then ?
[11:05] <olivier_> isn't there an ubuntu-arduino channel?
[11:05] <Mrokii> Hello. Anybody in here who knows something about Alsa/Pulse or whatever audio system is installed with 13.04? I did a fresh installation and have no sound at all (I had sound with earlier versions of Ubuntu).
[11:06] <lotuspsychje> !alis | olivier_
[11:06] <Ahasvero> ...does anybody know dart?
[11:07] <olivier_> thanks
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> !info darteditor
[11:08] <Ahasvero> !info darteditor
[11:08] <Ahasvero> it's not included in repositories
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> may be in a ppa
[11:09] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> hi BluesKaj
[11:09] <BluesKaj> hi ActionParsnip
[11:09] <lotuspsychje> Ahasvero: maybe this can help? https://groups.google.com/a/dartlang.org/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/misc/Ayqe42AFpfM
[11:11] <verwilst> my coworker is nagging that when a server is down, he gets 'ERROR: Host xxx is unreachable', and when it's back, he gets 'OK: Host xxx is unreachable'
[11:12] <Aaruni> lotuspsychje: I get "No LSB modules are available." . but then, why the error, every now and then ? (repost 1)
[11:12] <Ahasvero> mmm, depot tools? let's try ...
[11:12] <mi6x3m> hello, me again, I asked some minutes ago how to boot in terminal mode
[11:12] <mi6x3m> without GUI
[11:12] <mi6x3m> someone said use single mode
[11:12] <verwilst> i've replaced 'Httpd is not running on {HOST.NAME}' by '{ITEM.LASTVALUE} httpd processes on {HOST.NAME}
[11:12] <verwilst> which is a bit clearer already
[11:12] <lotuspsychje> Aaroni: i dont know why your system does that, but did you try to install like the url showed?
[11:12] <verwilst> but for nodata() triggers i can't do that
[11:13] <Aaruni> lotuspsychje: ok, trying
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> Aaruni: i dont think something is wrong with your hardware
[11:13] <paolo> How can i fix this audio issue
[11:13] <paolo> Please help
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> mi6x3m: add the boot option:  text
[11:13] <Aaruni> lotuspsychje: thanks. installing now, BTW
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> paolo: what issue?
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> paolo: re-ask your question here once in a while
[11:14] <mi6x3m> ActionParsnip: thanks!
[11:14] <paolo> my intel hd audio dosen't work on ubuntu 12.04
[11:14] <mi6x3m> ActionParsnip: how can I activate unity from there?
[11:14] <deadweasel> paolo:  type alsamixer into the command line, verify nothing is muted.
[11:14] <verwilst> arg
[11:14] <verwilst> wrong channel :P
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> mi6x3m: init 5    will do it
[11:15] <deadweasel> mi6x3m: type sudo lightdm
[11:15] <deadweasel> or that
[11:15] <mi6x3m> Thank you.
[11:15] <paolo> what i'm going to do now
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> paolo: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> paolo: you have given ZERO deatils, how can anyone possibly advise.......
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> lol
[11:16] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: Could that be something for my problem as well? I have no sound at all since installing 13.04 (a fresh installation, no update).
[11:16] <Aaruni> mi6x3m: once logged in, press alt + control + F7 to go back to GUI
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: try:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*
[11:17] <paolo> I tried and there's no sound
[11:17] <deadweasel> ActionParsnip: my issues was the master volume was muted in alsamixer.
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> Mrokii: can help, wait 10 seconds after running then reboot
[11:17] <mi6x3m> Aaruni: alright, thank you!
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> deadweasel: alsamixer is useful too :)
[11:17] <Mrokii> ActionParsnip: There's no .pulse folder
[11:17] <paolo> what's that you mean 10 seconds and reboot
[11:19] <paolo> my system is compaq presario v3000 and the speaker is altec lansing
[11:23] <olivier_> guys my arduino doesn't deregister in Ubuntu
[11:23] <olivier_> dmesg | grep tty gives me:
[11:23] <olivier_> http://pastebin.com/YS7wHRCK
[11:23] <olivier_> so multiple ttyACM0 devices and whenever I reconnect the Arduino another one appears in the list
[11:24] <qt-x> hello
[11:24] <cfhowlett> qt-x, greetings
[11:25] <qt-x> did anybody has any idea how to stop eclipse from freezing the system ?
[11:25] <qt-x> x64 architecture
[11:26] <olivier_> guys I don't want to have to use Ubuntu 10.04 on the school computer
[11:26] <Aaruni> If I decide to upgrade from x86 to x64, is there a way to upgrade, without loosing all my data, and applications ?
[11:26] <Hanumaan> any sql schema builder software in ubuntu ?
[11:26] <zebro> Do you speak italian?
[11:27] <cfhowlett> !it|zebro,
[11:29] <scar_eyeball> Aaruni: sure just upgrade
[11:29] <BlueShark`> Hello, when I run "sudo apt-get build-dep xchat" I'm receiving the error: E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list. Here's my sources.list file: http://pastie.org/7906563 What do I need to add?
[11:30] <Aaruni> scar_eyeball: I read someplace that if you upgrade from x86 to x64, you're going to loose all of your data. It will be a fresh install, instead of an upgrade
[11:30] <cfhowlett> Aaruni, safe assumption ...
[11:30] <lasers> !mint | BlueShark`
[11:31] <Ben64> Aaruni: it's "lose" and yeah you'll need to reinstall your applications
[11:31] <scar_eyeball> BlueShark`: your not in directory
[11:31] <Aaruni> in that case, not upgrading...
[11:31] <BlueShark`> scar_eyeball: sorry, I didn't get you. Could you explain?
[11:32] <Ben64> Aaruni: you can export your current package list and install them all again, it's pretty easy
[11:32] <Aaruni> Ben64: its not about cumbersomeness. I have less than adequate connectivity here, and downloading them again is going to be a problem
[11:32] <scar_eyeball> Hanumaan: yes there id
[11:33] <ubuntuaddicted> morning
[11:34] <cfhowlett> !ops|scar_eyeball,    send racist content via pm
[11:34] <Aaruni> !ops|scar_eyeball, abuse via PM
[11:35] <lasers> Aaruni: There are no way to upgrade from 32bit to 64bit. You will have do clean installation (and in this case, pull in every single same package)
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> olivier_: 10.04 desktop support is EOL now
[11:35] <Aaruni> lasers: ok thanks.
[11:35] <cfhowlett> Myrtti, thanks
[11:36] <Aaruni> thanks Myrtti
[11:36] <ubuntuaddicted> !ops|namk
[11:36] <Ben64> whats with all the ops triggering :|
[11:37] <Myrtti> ubuntuaddicted: hu?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> olivier_: you should inform your admins to upgrade soon
[11:37] <ubuntuaddicted> namk is sending me abusive PM's, so was scar_eyeball
[11:37] <Ben64> there is no namk
[11:37] <Myrtti> [freenode] *** There is no such nick namk
[11:37] <niko> ubuntuaddicted: ops can't do anything for someone who isn't in the channel anymore
[11:38] <cfhowlett> ubuntuaddicted, nickname spoof?
[11:38] <BlueShark`> * [namk] (~scar_eyeb@rrcs-98-101-233-98.midsouth.biz.rr.com): scar_eyeball
[11:38] <BlueShark`> * [namk] card.freenode.net :Tue May 14 11:36:30 2013
[11:38] <ubuntuaddicted> there you go
[11:40] <ubuntuaddicted> is there a tweetdeck equivalent for linux?
[11:41] <qin> ubuntuaddicted: What is tweetdeck?
[11:41] <Myrtti> ubuntuaddicted: "tweetdeck" - works in Chrome/Chromium
[11:41] <ubuntuaddicted> a twitter client
[11:41] <Myrtti> you can try friends too
[11:41] <Prock81> is the 13.04 called Precise?
[11:41] <cfhowlett> !precise
[11:41] <DJones> !raring | Prock81
[11:42] <kohvihoo1> ubuntuaddicted: there's a client called gwibber, it should be installed by default
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> ubottu: lots of twitter apps around, omgubuntu writes a lot of reviews on them (no idea why)
[11:42] <Prock81> so what is the code name for 13.04 ... raring?
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: lots of twitter apps around, omgubuntu writes a lot of reviews on them (no idea why)
[11:42] <ubuntuaddicted> ringtail raring
[11:42] <BluesKaj> yes Prock81 read above
[11:42] <Prock81> thanks
[11:42] <ubuntuaddicted> ActionParsnip, kohvihoo1 ok, thanks
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> kohvihoo1: its friends-app now, not gwibber (in Raring anyway)
[11:43] <alpharender> 1179906 bugs reported across 9756 projects, wow one million bugs, we should have a party
[11:43] <kohvihoo1> ah, okay
[11:44] <ubuntuaddicted> does anyone know if ubuntu 12.04 can drag and drop music yet with iOS 6+?
[11:45] <cfhowlett> ubuntuaddicted, I doubt that any *buntu can drag/drop to ios ...
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: I believe you will need banshee / rhythmnbox
[11:45] <Ben64> much easier to stay away from apple
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> ubuntuaddicted: there is ifuse but I'm not sure how the data gets stored. Android has a much easier time :)
[11:45] <Aaruni> is there any way to access iPad data, iTunes style in Ubuntu 12.04 ? not just songs and music, ebooks, comics, etc..
[11:45] <SonikkuAmerica> !mactel | Ben64, not always
[11:46] <Ben64> android is beating apple every month
[11:46] <SonikkuAmerica> !mac | Ben64, or rather
[11:46] <Prock81> ubuntuaddicted pwntunes will allow u to put mp3's directly on ios device
[11:46] <alpharender> is there anyway to download launchpad pad app locally?
[11:46] <cfhowlett> Aaruni, kind of.  nautilus shows all apps on my ipad ...
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Aaruni: banshee can put data on devices, there are ebook apps too
[11:46] <Prock81> no itunes
[11:46] <SonikkuAmerica> Ben64: True... and not to mention Ubuntu Touch can get ground that way... I wonder if that'll replace Ubuntu for Android
[11:46] <Aaruni> ActionParsnip: thanks.
[11:46] <SonikkuAmerica> Prock81: There's DoubleTwist though
[11:46] <ubuntuaddicted> cfhowlett, previous to iOS 6 you could drag and drop music with libimobiledevice
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Aaruni: ive seen videos on youtube of folks using itunes but for the real deal you will need a virtual windows install
[11:47] <cfhowlett> ubuntuaddicted, and the iOS update broke that, as usual?
[11:47] <Ben64> SonikkuAmerica: with how phones are so locked down, i don't think touch will take off
[11:47] <Aaruni> I was hoping to avoid that (its for a technically unsound friend of mine), ActionParsnip
[11:47] <alpharender> life is short, don't bother hacking apple
[11:47] <cfhowlett> alpharender, exactly
[11:47] <ubuntuaddicted> cfhowlett, yes
[11:48] <SonikkuAmerica> Ben64: It'll eventually have to in some form or another, at least with Unity Next coming in 13.10
[11:48] <alpharender> i have some apple stuff and I just use it (submit to their will)
[11:48] <alpharender> :)
[11:48] <Ben64> SonikkuAmerica: unless its a homescreen replacement app, i don't see manufacturers picking it up
[11:48] <ubuntuaddicted> Prock81, pwntunes states Windows 7 or above, Windows Vista or Windows XP with Fix (included)
[11:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Ben64: OEMs don't have to pick up anything for an OS to be popular - look at any given Linux distro
[11:49] <SonikkuAmerica> Ben64: Particularly Ubuntu (being the 3rd most popular desktop OS in the world)
[11:50] <SonikkuAmerica> Ben64: (Even though that's because all 6 of us use it)
[11:50] <ubuntuaddicted> cfhowlett, you could even rearrange your iOS device springboard icons with http://www.libimobiledevice.org/
[11:51] <Prock81>  ubuntuaddicted u need windows to set it up, but after when u plug it into any linux you will see the music folder, like the normal avrage cheap mp3 player
[11:51] <Ben64> SonikkuAmerica: most phones you can't boot unauthorized code, so if its a new os to replace android, it would need to be approved and installed by OEM
[11:51] <SonikkuAmerica> Ben64: So? Root the darn thing!
[11:51] <Ben64> root != install new os
[11:52] <D49L> Do you guys know a good pdfreader for linux where i can set comments?
[11:52] <ubuntuaddicted> Prock81, really? wonder how that works?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: yeah that confused me too
[11:52] <SonikkuAmerica> ubuntuaddicted: Bah, I had an iPad 3, and it was just easier to reset the icon layout every time I installed a new app so I could see all of them in alphabetical order
[11:52] <cfhowlett> SonikkuAmerica, had my nexus 4 a week.  Found out how to root on day 2.  VERY easy
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> D49L: acroread from Adobe if you want
[11:52] <prem> is there any freeipa server version available for ubuntu
[11:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Ben64: While true, root is the only way you get to install a new OS
[11:52] <Prock81> actually u probly dont need windows, i just set it up in windows and it works on linux
[11:53] <Ben64> SonikkuAmerica: not really, usually need to reflash the phone
[11:53]  * Aaruni is away: AFK
[11:53] <Prock81> only cause i was using window at that time
[11:53] <Myrtti> Aaruni: please turn that off
[11:53] <prem> or is there any other equivalent packages to setup a AD DC in ubuntu
[11:53] <SonikkuAmerica> Ben64: By flashing CWM or TeamWin via fastboot - still requires root
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> prem: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=freeipa
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> prem: lots of PPAs.....did you search these at all?
[11:54] <Ben64> SonikkuAmerica: those are just modded stock images, not a completely new os :)
[11:54] <prem> ActionParsnip, as far as i have seen client support for freeipa is only given
[11:54] <prem> not the srver packages
[11:55] <ubuntuaddicted> looks like libimobiledevice works with some functionality but not audio/video. The iPhone 4/4S, iPod Touch 4, iPad 1/2/3rd Gen and Apple TV do NOT work.
[11:55] <SonikkuAmerica> Ben64: Really? You can get Debian and Ubuntu ARM images... those aren't modded stock images at all.
[11:55] <Ben64> SonikkuAmerica: try to get them running on a phone, i guarantee a brick
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> prem: even in those PPAs?
[11:56] <prem> is there any way to install and run freeipa server in ubuntu
[11:56] <SonikkuAmerica> Ben64: I had a friend who got Ubuntu 12.04 LTS running on his Motorola Droid RAZR HD. Never say never.
[11:56] <prem> yes ActionParsnip
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> prem: you could use alien and convert rpm to deb but it may go weird
[11:57] <Ben64> SonikkuAmerica: webtop doesn't count
[11:57] <cfhowlett> SonikkuAmerica, desktop?  or ARM version?  all moot once touch releases
[11:57] <chenhuming> :)
[11:57] <prem> ActionParsnip, true, i cannot build the source in ubuntu., then in that case "alien" conversion will break the system
[11:57] <SonikkuAmerica> cfhowlett: True enough... with the convergence coming.
[11:58] <SonikkuAmerica> Ben64: Webtop? LOL
[11:58] <SonikkuAmerica> Ben64: He did it with SuperOneClick and a 12.04 .img file.
[11:58] <ubuntuaddicted> you would think since my iPhone is rooted (jailbroken) that putting music on it would be possible
[12:00] <Ben64> ubuntuaddicted: can you transfer over the network?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> prem: it 'may' break the system, you could always make a virtual system and test
[12:01] <ubuntuaddicted> Ben64, not sure. what would I google? lol
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> prem: or contact the guys and ask if they plan to support Ubuntu / deb based distros
[12:01] <Prock81> can i paste 3 lines and ask if this is a error that is ok to ignore, i was tring to enable hibernate, and a verygood question is why wasnt it enable by default
[12:02] <prem> ActionParsnip, they have replied that officially they dont support deb distros
[12:02] <ubuntuaddicted> Prock81, probably should use pastebin
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> prem: then you are stuck, you could virtualize a redhat box and install it
[12:02] <Prock81> !paste
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> prem: or whatever you want
[12:03] <gustav_> Hello there. Sound isn't working. In Firefox. mpg321 goes ok.
[12:03] <gustav_> 12.10.
[12:03] <Ben64> ubuntuaddicted: dunno. on my android i can transfer over bluetooth, scp, sftp, http, rsync, and more
[12:04] <Prock81> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5664259/ is this error ok to ignore
[12:04] <gustav_> Prock81: Yeah.
[12:05] <Ben64> Prock81: you should use gksudo
[12:05] <Prock81> thanks
[12:05] <Prock81> why is that
[12:05] <Ben64> Prock81: for gui applications*
[12:05] <Pearlax> good morning
[12:05] <Prock81> what difference will gksugo vs sudo make
[12:06] <Ben64> gksudo is for graphical stuff
[12:06] <jrib> Prock81: you probably don't want to run make with either sudo or gksudo
[12:07] <Prock81> i redid it with gksudo and it didnt give me the ibus warning
[12:07] <ubuntuaddicted> Ben64, ok
[12:07] <Prock81> can u explane jrib
[12:07] <Ben64> PrO_OkI__: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[12:07] <mi6x3m> Ubuntu, I am installing a tomcat server
[12:07] <mi6x3m> running it on 8080 works, running on 80 fails
[12:07] <Ben64> Prock81: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo
[12:07] <jrib> Prock81: you should just run make as your user
[12:07] <mi6x3m> both on localhost and from outside
[12:08] <Ben64> sorry PrO_OkI__
[12:08] <mi6x3m> could it be that port 80 is closed by default?
[12:08] <jrib> Prock81: if you weren't asking about the "make" program, then I misunderstood your question
[12:09] <Ben64> jrib: it was about "sudo gedit", i was saying to use gksudo
[12:11] <Shogoot> Any excel gurus around to help me troubleshoot a vlookup function? :)
[12:13] <Prock81> why does this room need 3 FloodBot's
[12:14] <gustav_> Prock81: Maybe they need to flood a lot.
[12:14] <Pici> Prock81: redundancy.
[12:14] <Prock81> lol
[12:14] <ubuntuaddicted> Prock81, cause it's a huge channel
[12:14] <mi6x3m> hello, can someone tell me how to open port 80 in Ubuntu?
[12:14] <yofun> hello i get this when runing cmake
[12:15] <yofun> CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindPackageHandleStandardArgs.cmake:97 (MESSAGE):   Could NOT find Threads (missing: Threads_FOUND) Call Stack (most recent call first):   /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindPackageHandleStandardArgs.cmake:288 (_FPHSA_FAILURE_MESSAGE)   /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindThreads.cmake:166 (FIND_PACKAGE_HANDLE_STANDARD_ARGS)   CMakeLists.txt:109 (FIND_PACKAGE
[12:15] <ubuntuaddicted> mi6x3m, unless you activated a firewall, it's already open
[12:15] <cfhowlett> !paste|yofun,
[12:15] <mi6x3m> ubuntuaddicted: I haven't explicitly activated a firewall
[12:15] <mi6x3m> all other ports work
[12:15] <mi6x3m> but running tomcat on 80, doesn't show in netstat
[12:15] <mi6x3m> any idea where I can check?
[12:16] <Prock81> so one bot says to the other ... ok you watch this part of the croud and ill watch the other
[12:16] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[12:16] <ubuntuaddicted> mi6x3m, r you certain your config is correct? did you start tomcat? i don't know what tomcat is
[12:16] <yofun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5664286/ anyone knows whats wrong here?
[12:16] <mi6x3m> ubuntuaddicted: Tomcat is a Java servlet container
[12:17] <mi6x3m> yes, I am pretty certain the configuration is correct
[12:17] <mi6x3m> could it be the ubuntu firewall is enabled by default?
[12:18] <mi6x3m> no, it's disabled
[12:18] <ubuntuaddicted> mi6x3m, ubuntu as far as I am aware has no firewall rules by defauly
[12:19] <ubuntuaddicted> mi6x3m, not showing in netstat and not being able to access the server are totally different things. if you try to start tomcat from the command line, does it return any errors?
[12:19] <ubuntuaddicted> brb, coffee
[12:19] <mi6x3m> ubuntuaddicted: no, and if I start it under port 8080 it will show in netstat as well
[12:19] <salah> Hi. I just installed ATI drivers and now Unity don't boot anymore.  Sound is not working.
[12:25] <gustav_> There is support for 12.10, RIGHT?
[12:25] <SonikkuAmerica> !details | gu
[12:25] <SonikkuAmerica> !details | gus
[12:25] <Mere2> hey ppl
[12:25] <SonikkuAmerica> !topic | gustav_: Yeah
[12:25] <cfhowlett> Mere2, greetings
[12:26] <gustav_> I have a problem with sound, I'm running Ubuntu version 12.10. When I try to do flash video in Firefox, I get the following output: no sound, but video, but I expected it to do sound & video.
[12:26] <ubuntuaddicted> mi6x3m, not sure what you mean by "this IP"?
[12:26] <gustav_> Happy?
[12:26] <cfhowlett> Mere2, for best results, ask in the main channel
[12:27] <Mere2> lol ok why ubuntu over say mint
[12:27] <SonikkuAmerica> !poll | Mere2, the same goes for operating systems
[12:27] <gustav_> SonikkuAmerica: Solve the problem please.
[12:27] <yofun> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5664286/ anyone knows whats wrong here??
[12:27] <cfhowlett> Mere2, good question!  and best had in #ubuntu-offtopic for full and rousing debates
[12:28] <Mere2> thanx
[12:28] <gustav_> yofun: You need to install a threads package.
[12:28] <SonikkuAmerica> gustav_: Sounds like a PulseAudio problem.
[12:28] <mi6x3m> ubuntuaddicted: just checked, my process signals permission denied port 80
[12:28] <gustav_> SonikkuAmerica: Yeah, but mpg321 works.
[12:28] <yofun> gustav_:  apt-get install threads?
[12:28] <gustav_> yofun: Not sure.
[12:28] <mi6x3m> ubuntuaddicted: what could be the reason?
[12:29] <gustav_> yofun: Check deps for that package. You are trying to cmake.
[12:29] <yofun> nope -_-
[12:29] <felon> whats the command to list system info in terminal, mem, ect..
[12:29] <gustav_> <- process starvation
[12:29] <SonikkuAmerica> !info mpg321
[12:29] <ubuntuaddicted> mi6x3m, not sure as I don't use tomcat
[12:30] <SonikkuAmerica> gustav_: And how do you know that mpg321 isn't using ALSA?
[12:30] <gustav_> SonikkuAmerica: Firefox is using ALSA.
[12:30] <ubuntuaddicted> felon, you could use cat /proc/meminfo and cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:30] <SonikkuAmerica> gustav_: How come? PulseAudio comes stock with Ubuntu... did you remove it for some reason
[12:30] <SonikkuAmerica> ?
[12:31] <yofun> FIND_PACKAGE(Threads REQUIRED)
[12:31] <yofun> hmm
[12:31] <gustav_> SonikkuAmerica: Nope. mpg321 doesn't go through PA it seems. Firefox does but uses ALSA plugin or something. Looking at pavucontrol here.
[12:33] <SonikkuAmerica> gustav_: I found a (32-bit) solution, try it: http://www.thelinuxdaily.com/2007/10/how-to-fix-the-no-sound-issue-in-firefox-flash/
[12:34] <felon> you know whats crazy is i cant get edid to communicate with vid card to detect lcd display and get my resolution right, at 1360x768 16:9, but it will let me use 1920x1080 16:9
[12:36] <bpat1434> Anyone running ubuntu 13.04 server as a guest in VMWare 9 with a Windows 7 host?
[12:37] <SonikkuAmerica> !anyone | bpat1434
[12:37] <stuffin> Would someone please help me when they have the time. I need to know the command to install the libs32 for a 64 bit system
[12:37] <gustav_> SonikkuAmerica: I rebooted. Sound is back. Reboot does it every time.
[12:37] <ubuntuaddicted> stuffin, what application?
[12:37] <SonikkuAmerica> gustav_: Gotta love rebooting.
[12:37] <gustav_> Have you tried turning it off and on again.
[12:38] <stuffin> it is open gl application. I know that I need the files that allow you to run 32bit program on 64bit
[12:39] <stuffin> do you think it is sudo apt-get install ia-32libs?
[12:39] <ubuntuaddicted> stuffin, what is the application name
[12:40] <stuffin> i do not know
[12:40] <SonikkuAmerica> stuffin: It's ia32-libs, but I'm not sure if they got put back into Ubuntu.
[12:40] <SonikkuAmerica> !info ia32-libs
[12:40] <SonikkuAmerica> stuffin: Guess not.
[12:40] <bpat1434> I'm running Ubuntu 13.04 server (64-bit) as a guest VM with a Windows 7 host in VMware Workstation 9.  The VM locks up at random points in time and all syslog has is a "BUG: soft lockup CPU #X stuck for XXs!".  I've tried without acpi aipc and even change the config to be a 1-CPU instance (instead of 4).  Nothing helps.  What is/could be causing the soft lockup and how do I fix it/
[12:41] <gustav_> SonikkuAmerica: How about choppy sound?
[12:41] <stuffin> i will keep searching
[12:41] <SonikkuAmerica> bpat1434: Try in #vmware
[12:42] <BluesKaj> !ia32-libs-multiarch
[12:42] <ubuntuaddicted> well, gotta go make my youtube commentary for the day. ttyk
[12:42] <rastajoey> hi
[12:42] <ubuntuaddicted> ttyl
[12:42] <SonikkuAmerica> !info ia32-libs-multiarch
[12:42] <BluesKaj> there it is
[12:42] <juniour> hi how can i see comment of image plz help
[12:43] <SonikkuAmerica> gustav_: Check out the following bug:
[12:43] <SonikkuAmerica> !bug 1063965
[12:43] <cfhowlett> !paste|juniour,
[12:43] <mi6x3m> ubuntuaddicted: I found it out, I had to use autobind
[12:43] <rastajoey> how can installer a softwer pls help me
[12:43] <Lasse-> Excuse me rastajoey ?
[12:43] <juniour> ubbot i haven't pastedmultiline text 3:)
[12:43] <gustav_> SonikkuAmerica: Work in progress?
[12:43] <cfhowlett> rastajoey, eh?
[12:43] <juniour> ubottu i haven't pasted multiline text 3:)
[12:44] <muindor> hey all. i need a small linux running from usb which supports persistence, cron jobs and perl and runs on a pc from the stoneage ( 64mb ram ). any ideas ? :-)
[12:44] <gustav_> SonikkuAmerica: Cat it be changed to important? -.-"
[12:44] <SonikkuAmerica> gustav_: AFAIK, yes, but the importance is still at "Undecided."
[12:44] <gustav_> can
[12:44] <gustav_> The sound repeats, so I hear what they say...