[03:39] <AAA> agt  isn't there an install script in the root dir of the svn checkout?
[03:39] <flodine> AAA there root 000
[03:39] <flodine> AAA i just want all of them to be user
[03:40] <zubwolf> why is it such a pain to get the nvidia driver installed on dapper, my card is an geforce 4mx, dont matter which kernel i use, dont matter if i install the ubuntu pkg (and edit my xorg.conf like the readme tells), or i download the driver directly from the nvidia site and compile it (it mostly jsut refuse to compile(sometimes it dont, and it seems okay, but starting X results in "the nvidia modules cannot be found"))
[03:40] <AAA> flodine  that is your problem. you need to >chown flodine.flodine -R /mnt/whereever
[03:40] <AAA> flodine  or whatever your user name is on that box
[03:40] <flodine> AAA but how do do all at one time
[03:40] <agt> AAA, don't think so ... theres autogen.sh files in each module's directory, but i used to use a script that automated the whole thing.
[03:40] <AAA> flodine  you will need to sudo that cmd
[03:41] <Fenster> hey guys.. I hit delete on a file on a ntfs drive and it didnt prompt me if I wanted to delete
[03:41] <zubwolf> hangin there for hours, just trying to install that crap...
[03:41] <Fenster> and it doesnt seem to be in the trash
[03:41] <Fenster> is it gone gone???
[03:41] <AAA> agt  no idea, check the doc's on their website.  the autogen.sh script should get your started?
[03:41] <neuroe> so how much more crowded has this room become reciently? =]
[03:41] <neuroe> crouded
[03:42] <agt> AAA,  thanks
[03:42] <neuroe> w/e
[03:42] <eyequeue> !ntfs > Fenster
[03:42] <flodine> AAA there got to be a way to unroot all the fold not just the main folder everything inside is locked to
[03:42] <cpare> Good Evening All
[03:42] <Fenster> eyequeue, .. my drives are working fine
[03:42] <Fenster> I hit delete
[03:42] <Fenster> linux didnt prompt me about deleting
[03:43] <Fenster> it just dissapeared from the folder
[03:43] <trygg> A good program for switching fonts and gtk-themes?
[03:43] <krazykit> Fenster, then don't hit delete unless you want to delete something.
[03:43] <cpare> Looking for some Easy help with something stupid I did in gnome...
[03:43] <eyequeue> Fenster, the factoid was intended to point out ntfs writes are unsafe
[03:43] <AAA> flodine  that is what the -R switch is for (recursive)
[03:43] <Fenster> well ya.. but no prompt? isnt that a linux thing
[03:43] <Fenster> grrrr
[03:43] <eyequeue> Fenster, a deletion is a write
[03:43] <flodine> AAA whats is r
[03:43] <flodine> AAA noob
[03:44] <cpare> I did a "Remove from Panel" on GAIM so now it doesn't minimize to the tray - can someone show mw how to get it back?
[03:44] <krazykit> Fenster, no.  you can rm your whole / without a prompt
[03:44] <Fenster> there is no way to convert the drives is there?
[03:44] <Fenster> without moving all the data
[03:44] <krazykit> Fenster, not without losing all the data
[03:44] <Elephant> flodine:  chmod -R go=rwx folder
[03:44] <Fenster> grrrr
[03:44] <Fenster> is ext3 pretty darn good?
[03:44] <AAA> flodine  like I said. chmod -R username.username /folder will recursivley change the file/folder perms in /folder
[03:44] <Fenster> as far as data storage?
[03:44] <krazykit> Fenster, yeah.  ext3 is excellent
[03:44] <agt> trygg, gtk-theme-switch ? thats if you don't want to use the gnome tools
[03:44] <eyequeue> Fenster, it is the default, yes
[03:44] <jrib> cpare: did you remove the notificationo area from the panel?  right click on the panel and try adding it back
[03:44] <Soccrmastr> well, since xubuntu channel is dead I was hoping i can find some help here
[03:45] <Fenster> hrmmmz
[03:45] <Fenster> I just might do it
[03:45] <trygg> agt: thanks. :)
[03:45] <UKMatt> has anyone had any experience doing some serious partition changing?
[03:45] <eyequeue> !anyone > UKMatt
[03:45] <neuroe> i've had experiences
[03:45] <cpare> that was it jrib - Thanks
[03:45] <jrib> cpare: np
[03:46] <Elephant> What are you trying to do, UKMatt?
[03:46] <cpare> this IRC is so great
[03:46] <Soccrmastr> Ok, can someone help me with xubuntu
[03:46] <neuroe> cpare, you should try EfNet
[03:46] <krazykit> Soccrmastr, just ask.
[03:47] <Soccrmastr> yes well I am new to linux so will probably ask very n00b questions
[03:47] <UKMatt> I have a windows NTFS and a gnome ub partition, and I decided i'm gonna make the switch to almost 100% UB, so I wanted to drop the size of my windows partition down significantly, up UB and make a FAT32 for Music/Doc/All that, and I've looked at resizing partitions before and it tells me their locked (probably because in use)
[03:47] <toddobryan> Does anyone know where I can get a driver for an IBM Infoprint 1332 printer?
[03:47] <Soccrmastr> I installed xubuntu, then ran the command  for getting the xubuntu interfaces, but after it does a lot of stuff I get an error
[03:48] <neuroe> UKMatt, get partion magic on a floppy or boot disk
[03:48] <UKMatt> as in .iso?
[03:48] <Soccrmastr> that says "media change: please insert the disc labeled 'xubuntu 6.06.1 _drapper drake_-Release 1386 (20060807)'"
[03:48] <neuroe> yea
[03:48] <epitron> UKMatt: you can also boot your ubuntu CD as a live CD and partition your drive from that
[03:48] <UKMatt> neuroe, and what, that loads as an image and I do it from outisde an OS?
[03:48] <neuroe> that's not a very linuxy answer but it's easy
[03:48] <neuroe> yea
[03:48] <Soccrmastr> so i insert the CD I used to install, press enter. at 99% percent I just get another error
[03:48] <eyequeue> Soccrmastr, it looks like it is trying to install something it needs
[03:49] <UKMatt> epitron, to boot it as a live CD do i just load it as i did initially?
[03:49] <catadoxas> hey I have some prob with my opengl I use a x600 radeon and have the xorg-driver-fglrx installed and konfigured
[03:49] <catadoxas> sitll i dont have any opengl
[03:49] <epitron> UKMatt: if it's dapper, yes. if it's breezy, i don't remember :)
[03:49] <catadoxas> any help?
[03:49] <epitron> UKMatt: there's a startup menu when you put the CD in
[03:49] <UKMatt> epitron, breezy didn't but dapper does, i know what you mean
[03:49] <epitron> (boot the cd, rather)
[03:49] <unity> is there a command-line program to record everything that is 1. going into my mic, and 2. coming out of my speakers? simultaneously?
[03:49] <drakonen_> k now i try here wit crapy english lol
[03:49] <UKMatt> epitron, i really liked how they changed that in dapper
[03:49] <manmadha> i can not play mp3 files in ubuntu.......can any one help me...?i have installed w32 codecs.
[03:49] <eyequeue> Soccrmastr, does your cd have an option to check its integrity?  (boot from it)
[03:50] <epitron> unity: hrmm.. i'd imagine so.. :)
[03:50] <Soccrmastr> yeah it can boot from the CD thats how I installed in the first place
[03:50] <UKMatt> manmadha, are they .mp3's or are you just using that as a general term for music files
[03:50] <epitron> unity: you're going to need alsa to do that, at least
[03:50] <epitron> unity: perhaps Jack
[03:50] <eyequeue> !mp3 > manmadha
[03:50] <drakonen_> some1 knows an good easy cvs prog for ubuntu ? easy to use for an linux noob plz ^^
[03:50] <epitron> UKMatt: yeah, dapper is the shiznit
[03:50] <Elephant> I recommend subversion
[03:50] <UKMatt> epitron, now what about having a FAT32, i've heard thats bad and good
[03:51] <Elephant> It's meant to fix all of the flaws of cvs
[03:51] <Soccrmastr> maybe I need to ask a diffrent question now, because I am not even completely sure I was using right commands
[03:51] <rpedro> catadoxas, does it mention 'Mesa (...) indirect(...)' when you run fglrxinfo in a terminal?
[03:51] <manmadha> UKMatt, in local site when i clicked on the songs then automatically it is openning with totem
[03:51] <agt> Soccrmastr, whats the second error you get? asking for the cd again?
[03:51] <Elephant> UKMatt:  There's a win32 driver for reading ext3...hang on a sec...
[03:51] <VDR> /whois $me
[03:51] <catadoxas> hm
[03:51] <catadoxas> sec
[03:51] <UKMatt> elephant, i've heard of it, is it reliable
[03:51] <Soccrmastr> well no, the second error is like, hdc: drive not ready
[03:51] <Soccrmastr> or soemthing
[03:52] <UKMatt> elephant, it popped up on digg a month or two ago
[03:52] <manmadha> eyequeue, to listen the songs in localsite (automatically openning with totem when clicked on it....)
[03:52] <catadoxas> i only ran it with | grep rendering
[03:52] <Soccrmastr> after I install xubuntu, and log in, what commands should be used to start up the inerface
[03:52] <drakonen_> hmmm?
[03:52] <catadoxas> yes
[03:53] <catadoxas> mesa indirekt
[03:53] <unity> epitron: what if i'm not running the jack soundserver, will it still work?
[03:53] <tonyyarusso> Soccrmastr: Did you install it on top of a server install you mean?
[03:53] <manmadha> UKMatt, eyequeue but it can play the mp3 songs in my system.....plz help me
[03:53] <UKMatt> And also, I put on VMWare Server edition to take a look at SUSE, for me to get rid of that, what do i do?
[03:53] <catadoxas> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[03:53] <catadoxas> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[03:53] <catadoxas> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[03:53] <catadoxas> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.1)
[03:53] <catadoxas> thats my outout
[03:53] <Soccrmastr> No, I installed off the disc, but it had to install in low memory mode
[03:53] <drakonen_> hmmm seams not ok back to google lol
[03:53] <UKMatt> manmadha, what can't it play?
[03:54] <rpedro> catadoxas, there is an howto at ubuntuforums.org that will maybe help you fix that problem, at least it worked for me. Search for 'ati mesa issue' and you'll probably found it
[03:54] <unity> epitron: apparently not. i have no soundserver running afaik, then is this not possible?
[03:54] <Elephant> UKM:  I'm not sure about reliability, but it looks to be worth checking out
[03:54] <tonyyarusso> Soccrmastr: And you don't get a pretty login screen by default when you boot?  Just a command line?
[03:54] <Soccrmastr> just command line
[03:54] <catadoxas> thx a lot
[03:54] <rpedro> catadoxas, DON'T paste here!
[03:54] <UKMatt> elephant, yeah, i'd imagine it isn't the best, so it seems just more straight forward to partition
[03:55] <loststar4545> i want test thos microphone i have what program can i use to record  my voice
[03:55] <Elephant> http://www.fs-driver.org/
[03:55] <Soccrmastr> but I am supposed tot ype command to open the interface according to the guide on ubuntu website
[03:55] <rpedro> !pastebin > catadoxas
[03:55] <Elephant> Soccrmastr:  If you have the GUI stuff installed, type "startx" after you've logged in
[03:55] <manmadha> In our local site he put some songs in mp3 format.....when i clicked on it it is openning with totem displaying the error""no input plugins to handle this....""
[03:55] <Soccrmastr> says, use xserver, or startxfce4 but neither work
[03:55] <rpedro> catadoxas, np ;)
[03:55] <catadoxas> :)
[03:56] <Soccrmastr> startx doesnt work either
[03:56] <manmadha> UKMatt, In our local site he put some songs in mp3 format.....when i clicked on it it is openning with totem displaying the error""no input plugins to handle this....""
[03:56] <RamiKassab> hey guys, is it better to install php4 or php5 for apache2? I saw some articles online outlining how to run both (one as a module and the other as cgi) but what is the benefit behind doing this? Thanks guys!
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> Soccrmastr: To get the login manager (I'm going to guess it uses XDM), try 'sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start'.
[03:56] <catadoxas> what ubuntu forums do you mean
[03:56] <catadoxas> on the user contributed I dont find anything
[03:56] <iturk> hi there !! how can i set the locales using some bash commands ??
[03:56] <tonyyarusso> Soccrmastr: Does the command startx exist and not work or not exist?
[03:57] <Soccrmastr> says command not found
[03:57] <Soccrmastr> for both
[03:57] <ardchoille> Soccrmastr: Are you typing start x or startx ?
[03:57] <rpedro> catadoxas, the first page
[03:57] <Soccrmastr> I migth ahve emssed up when editing the soruce lsit
[03:57] <rpedro> catadoxas, do a search
[03:57] <Soccrmastr> Im using startx
[03:57] <drakonen_> some1 knows an good easy cvs prog for ubuntu ? easy to use for an linux noob plz ^^
[03:57] <rockzman> can anyone support me with cedega?
[03:57] <eyequeue> iturk, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[03:57] <catadoxas> found it sorry im kinda tired
[03:57] <catadoxas> :)
[03:58] <Soccrmastr> In the tutorial on ubuntu.com guide I mess up at this step: Uncomment the universe repository line (search for universe and uncomment that line by deleting the '#' character) (use 'x' to delete a character in vim)
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> Soccrmastr: This does not sound good...  Everything seemed to go okay during the install though?
[03:58] <iturk> eyequeue: i used before and i can only set time !! how can i set language also ??
[03:58] <rpedro> catadoxas, if I were you, I would maybe skip to the troubleshooting section and save a couple of reboots
[03:58] <foo> Is there anyway I can tell rsvt that I have a dark background like in vim? When I do ls the dir's are blue and it's kind of hard to read.
[03:58] <rockzman> can anyone support me with cedega?
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> Soccrmastr: Could you give a link to the tutorial you're referring to so I can see it?
[03:59] <eyequeue> iturk, ?
[03:59] <rpedro> rockzman, /join #cedega
[03:59] <rockzman> rpedro: vlw
[03:59] <rpedro> rockzman, ?
[04:00] <rockzman> rpedro: i thought u were from brazil because ur nick name is a brazilian name ^^
[04:00] <rockzman> then i spoke br rpedro
[04:00] <Soccrmastr> ok now during install, first it went to low memory installation, OK good, continue. Then I get, CD error or soemthing, something about release file not found. so ic ontinued and everythign stillw ent fine
[04:00] <rpedro> rockzman, portugal, meu :P
[04:00] <Soccrmastr> this si teh guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingXubuntu
[04:00] <rpedro> rpedro, lol
[04:00] <rockzman> rpedro: =)
[04:00] <Elephant> wb UKMatt
[04:00] <chakra85> can someone help me with a question about symlinks?
[04:00] <justin_> Does anyone know how to reset Terminal/Console to show files/dirs horizontally instead of vertically?
[04:00] <UKMatt> whats the bash for removing a program?
[04:01] <UKMatt> I have VMware and can't get it off through synaptic
[04:01] <Elephant> rm filename
[04:01] <eyequeue> UKMatt, dpkg --purge foo
[04:01] <Soccrmastr> CDROM does not seem to contain a valid 'release' file, or that file could not be read correctly
[04:01] <Soccrmastr> thats the error i get
[04:01] <Elephant> err, listen to eyequeue - my reply applies to single files
[04:01] <eyequeue> UKMatt, sudo dpkg --purge foo
[04:01] <iturk> eyequeue: http://pastebin.ca/133719
[04:02] <chakra85> UKMatt sudo apt-get remove foo
[04:02] <tich> does anyone use amarok with gnome of xfce?
[04:02] <snoops> yes tich
[04:02] <Soccrmastr> also might poitn out I didnt follow the guide exactly, i followed from step 5
[04:02] <UKMatt> chakra85, eyequeue, foo?
[04:02] <chakra85> UKMatt, apparently, not apt-get
[04:02] <Soccrmastr> and also just messed up badly at same step
[04:03] <trygg> What does gtk2-chtheme come with?
[04:03] <Brokenstein> how do i find the device id for my video? i have a laptop with geforce2go
[04:03] <prophet> whats the equvalant of DC++ on here
[04:03] <steve_Laptop> were do I go to repair this? postfix: fatal: myorigin parameter setting must not contain multiple values: homefront.homefrontus.com, localhost.homefrontus.com, localhost
[04:03] <justin_> Does anyone know how to reset Terminal/Console to show files/dirs horizontally instead of vertically?
[04:03] <morphix> !ati
[04:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:03] <tich> snoops, when i try to run certain features amarok tries to open a kde app how do i change what app it loads?
[04:03] <eyequeue> UKMatt, sudo dpkg --purge packagename
[04:03] <GoonSquad> hey
[04:03] <krazykit> prophet, valknut
[04:03] <snoops> which features tich?
[04:03] <chakra85> UKMatt, i would go with the dpkg --purge; also, foo is sort of a generic standin for a name
[04:03] <GoonSquad> i installed ubuntu and im at the login screen everytime i try to login, it tells me "Administrators are not allowed to login at this screen" what do i do? I dont know any other pws
[04:04] <iturk> http://pastebin.ca/133719 <- can someone give me some help with this error ??
[04:04] <prophet> for some reason it keeps stitting at "waiting"
[04:04] <chakra85> so... anyone know alot about symlinks?
[04:04] <Brokenstein> im trying to set up xgl and i dont wanna assume its at PCI:1:0:0 but i dont know how to check
[04:04] <UKMatt> eyequeue, chakra85, i put it on a while ago and don't remember the package name, how do i pull taht up
[04:04] <tonyyarusso> Soccrmastr: Doing some reading...
[04:04] <Soccrmastr> ok thanks :\
[04:04] <GoonSquad> i installed ubuntu and im at the login screen everytime i try to login, it tells me "Administrators are not allowed to login at this screen" what do i do? I dont know any other pws
[04:04] <GoonSquad> i installed ubuntu and im at the login screen everytime i try to login, it tells me "Administrators are not allowed to login at this screen" what do i do? I dont know any other pws
[04:04] <eyequeue> iturk, it sounds like you don't have the pt package installed, but i don't know their names
[04:04] <justin_> GoonSquad: DO not flood too much.. wait a little bit before asking again, c'mon..
[04:04] <krazykit> GoonSquad, no need to spam.  try logging in as your regular user rather than as root
[04:05] <iturk> eyequeue: i will check
[04:05] <GoonSquad> krazykit thats th eonly account info tha ti know
[04:05] <Clinton__> Anyone have a URL to the recommended and up to date method of installing w32codecs?
[04:05] <snoops> tich, isn't the only thing it opens externally is konqueror? Which can naturally be changed in settings>configur amarok>general
[04:05] <ikaruga> hello all
[04:05] <chakra85> UKMatt, how important is it to use the bash command. can you just use the synaptic package manager?
[04:05] <GoonSquad> krazykit thats the account info and passworsd i set
[04:05] <GoonSquad> root
[04:05] <eyequeue> iturk, if you find them, install them and it should clear itself up
[04:05] <krazykit> GoonSquad, then drop to a virtual terminal, log in as root there, and make yourself a regular user.
[04:05] <tonyyarusso> Soccrmastr: The guide talks about starting from an Ubuntu server install - did you do that, or get a Xubuntu CD instead of an Ubuntu one?
[04:05] <UKMatt> chakra85, its not at all, i removed everything i could find in synaptic though and its still there
[04:05] <krazykit> GoonSquad, by that, i mean make a new user that isn't root.
[04:05] <salah> what is the default password of mysql?
[04:06] <Soccrmastr> I started at stepm 5 because I installed from CD
[04:06] <GoonSquad> krazykit how
[04:06] <eyequeue> iturk, #ubuntu-pt may know
[04:06] <GoonSquad> i cant even get pass th elogin screen
[04:06] <chakra85> UKMatt, ooh... ok, i have no idea then. i'm sort of a beginner too
[04:06] <Maper-Nit> use "automatix" to instal w32codes
[04:06] <Soccrmastr> but I also screwed up bad at Step 5
[04:06] <Clinton__> Maper-Nit: thank you
[04:06] <justin_> Ahh.. I get it now..
[04:06] <tich> snoops, yeah it seems to only be the browser, i didn't see that setting before but i'll check it out again.
[04:06] <krazykit> GoonSquad, log in in a virtual terminal: hit ctrl-alt-f2 and log in there.
[04:06] <justin_> It is because I have file names that are too long to display horizontally :D
[04:07] <UKMatt> Ha so did anyone see the Mac WWDC, they announced "Spaces" and I was like - pshh, UB has had that, keep up Steve
[04:07] <GoonSquad> i pressed that and i only get a blinkin cursor..
[04:07] <tonyyarusso> Soccrmastr: Which CD, how exactly did you install, and how did you screw up at 5?
[04:07] <ardchoille> justin_: try ls -l ?
[04:07] <wrightplace> salah usually there is no default mysql password
[04:07] <justin_> Yup, I was right :)
[04:07] <justin_> ardchoille: I found the problem, my file names were too long so .. they displayed vertically instead.
[04:07] <justin_> fixed :)
[04:08] <ardchoille> ok :)
[04:08] <GoonSquad> krazykit whats another way to do it
[04:08] <Soccrmastr> xubuntu-6.06.1-alternate-i386.iso
[04:08] <Soccrmastr> to a CD
[04:08] <chakra85> can you override a file using a ln -s? i.e. if a file exists, but i don't want to use a different file of the same name instead.
[04:08] <ikaruga> i'm having problems w/ dapper. Breezy was running fine. I'm running all the same progs as before but now it hangs when I leave the CPU alone. I'm not running nothing fancy:
[04:08] <ikaruga> office: scribus, adobe, lyx, texmacs
[04:08] <ikaruga> multimedia: amarok, qdvdauthor
[04:08] <ikaruga> internet: didwiki, apache2, php4
[04:08] <ikaruga> The only new thing I'm doing is using aptitude + graphics accel. (nvidia drivers)
[04:08] <krazykit> GoonSquad, chroot into your system from a liveCD and make a new user from there
[04:08] <Soccrmastr> and at step 5 I wasnt sure which # to delete, so i deleted a couple random things bya ccident, then some things happened, so i just shut down lol
[04:08] <tich> snoops, the browser doesn't seem to be an option in the general tab.
[04:09] <Soccrmastr> and after I put on Cd I did OEM install
[04:09] <alakriti> chakra85: what are you trying to do?
[04:09] <tonyyarusso> Soccrmastr: Why OEM?
[04:09] <Soccrmastr> which went into the low memory install
[04:09] <Soccrmastr> OEM I wasnt sure, a friend told me to
[04:09] <Soccrmastr> but that friend only used ubntu not xubuntu so he said he wasnt sure
[04:09] <GoonSquad> krazykit
[04:09] <GoonSquad> ok
[04:09] <tonyyarusso> Soccrmastr: Do you have anything significant invested in this install so far that makes you hesitant to just redo it?
[04:09] <GoonSquad> im in as root
[04:09] <GoonSquad> in a bash screen
[04:09] <GoonSquad> what command can i type
[04:09] <GoonSquad> to get a new
[04:09] <GoonSquad> account
[04:10] <Soccrmastr> no id ont care I can redo it
[04:10] <eyequeue> !rootsudo > GoonSquad
[04:10] <Soccrmastr> ill try to do it again
[04:10] <drakonen_> some1 knows an good easy cvs prog for ubuntu ? easy to use for an linux noob plz ^^
[04:10] <krazykit> GoonSquad, the enter key is not the spacebar.  check out the man page for adduser
[04:10] <chakra85> alakriti, i have a file that i need to customize, but everytime i upgrade the program it overwrites the customized file
[04:10] <Soccrmastr> ok reinstalling now
[04:10] <Soccrmastr> use OEM install?
[04:11] <chakra85> alakriti, so i want to just point to another file instead of having to deal with the copy/paste everytime i upgrade
[04:11] <eyequeue> no oem
[04:11] <chakra85> alakriti, this isn't super important or anything, because it's only one file... but i'd like to know if it's possible
[04:11] <tonyyarusso> Soccrmastr: Okay, here's the deal: That guide is meant for people that don't have the specific Xubuntu install CD, which allows you to use one of the ShipIt ones, but is much more complicated.  If you already have the ISO you said burned, you should be able to just ignore pretty much all of that.  I don't think you need to do OEM, but maybe check if there are other special options that point you to a low-memory mode.
[04:12] <Soccrmastr> theres text mode install
[04:12] <Soccrmastr> and install a server
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> Soccrmastr: You should be able to just put the CD in, tell it a few quick things after saying low-mem, let it do it's thing, and reboot after it tells you to and be set to go.
[04:12] <Soccrmastr> ya that happened
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> Soccrmastr: Don't bother with server.  Just normal.
[04:12] <Soccrmastr> with OEM
[04:12] <Soccrmastr> but then it open to command line
[04:12] <eyequeue> Soccrmastr, text mode
[04:12] <Soccrmastr> so text install
[04:12] <Soccrmastr> k
[04:12] <alakriti> i still think im confused. so you have a file /usr/bin/application  this is being upgraded by your distro. but you need to use a different version of this file?
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> eyequeue: Is text mode install off the alternate the same as a "lom memory" install do you know?
[04:13] <ikaruga> anyone else had problems with dapper freezing? I know it's a bit of a vague problem but the last thing I want to do is painstakingly reinstall everything.
[04:13] <eyequeue> tonyyarusso, i know oem on the alternate causes hangs, but text mode worked :)
[04:13] <Soccrmastr> still get low memory emssage but continuing
[04:14] <eyequeue> tonyyarusso, i think text mode had an option for lowmem, not the default
[04:14] <wrightplace> ikaruga I did have some problems of freezing when I tried KDE on ubuntu, after getting rid of ALL of it, no more problems
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> eyequeue: Ah, I see.
[04:14] <alakriti> chakra85: or you are using this application in a different folder with customized config files etc. and you just need the application in this directory to symbolically point to the version that gets upgraded?
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> Soccrmastr: Do you see options for that install in the text-mode?
[04:15] <wrightplace> still need to get rid of startup splash screen
[04:15] <ikaruga> wrightplace: thanx rightplace, but I'm using GNOME
[04:15] <Soccrmastr> yes it looks exactly the same
[04:15] <Soccrmastr> as OEM
[04:15] <steve_Laptop> were postfix parameter setting
[04:15] <Soccrmastr> still getting the CD DOES nto contain valid 'release' file
[04:15] <Soccrmastr> I am even using a new CD re-burned one
[04:16] <ardchoille> Soccrmastr: I'd guess it is a bad burn
[04:16] <chakra85> alakriti, was there a first part to that? "or are you using this app..."
[04:16] <Soccrmastr> then after that I click continue, I get, "An instalaltion step has failed, he failign step is: Detect and mount CD-ROM"
[04:16] <eyequeue> or a bad iso d/l
[04:16] <bruenig> Soccrmastr, did you check the md5?
[04:16] <ikaruga> could the nvidia legacy drivers cause hanging? It seems to work fine---3D games run fine. Could the screensaver be causing it to freeze?
[04:16] <Soccrmastr> but after I try again it just does it fine
[04:16] <alakriti> chakra85: <alakriti> i still think im confused. so you have a file /usr/bin/application  this is being upgraded by your distro. but you need to use a different version of this file?
[04:16] <Soccrmastr> md5 um.... no
[04:17] <bruenig> Soccrmastr, if downloaded the iso via http or ftp, you probably ought to check its md5sum
[04:17] <bruenig> !iso > Soccrmastr
[04:17] <Soccrmastr> how lol??
[04:17] <heinouskyle> help me
[04:17] <ikaruga> is there some kind of debug program I can run to find the cause of the hanging?
[04:17] <Soccrmastr> !iso
[04:17] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[04:17] <chakra85> alakriti, so i have a file  /var/www/local/settings.php, there is an application at /var/www/site/app/settings.php
[04:18] <heinouskyle> i'm not able to use the arrow keys on the keyboard to move the cursor in text
[04:18] <phiber_optic> any ideas why when I download ubuntu when I do the checksum its not the same
[04:18] <bruenig> heinouskyle, what program?
[04:18] <heinouskyle> in all applications
[04:18] <phiber_optic> its like the 7th time that I downalod
[04:19] <eyequeue> phiber_optic, 6.06.1?
[04:19] <alakriti> so you want /var/www/site/app/settings.php to point to /var/www/local/settings.php ?
[04:19] <alakriti> chakra85: so you want /var/www/site/app/settings.php to point to /var/www/local/settings.php ?
[04:19] <heinouskyle> breunig, i don't even know where to start in solving this problem
[04:20] <Soccrmastr> im also not sure if I need to add "exclude port 0x800-0x8ff" says used for msot dell laptops which i am using
[04:20] <justin_> !ati
[04:20] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:20] <Soccrmastr> but I added it anyway
[04:20] <bruenig> heinouskyle, assuming your arrow keys actually work which unless you can verify that with another OS might not be true, I can't imagine why it wouldn't work unless you have some weird keyboard that x couldn't recognize or gave you a bad driver for
[04:20] <heinouskyle> i was using them to play games earlier in windows
[04:20] <alakriti> chakra86: ln -s /var/www/local/settings.php /var/www/site/app/settins.php , if that is what you are trying to do. then essentially they are the same file. if you operate on the symlink you are operating on the orignal file.
[04:21] <heinouskyle> i have a standard keyboard too
[04:22] <rgg> hi,can someone help me with a problem with open office...without telling me to go to #openoffice.org?
[04:22] <rgg> or,am i even allowed to ask questions about OO here?
[04:22] <heinouskyle> bruenig, i'm pretty sure it has something to do with gnome keyboard shortcuts because earlier i tried to set up the shortcuts for media
[04:23] <heinouskyle> like using the pause button to pause/play my music
[04:23] <foo> err, I am getting this; The following packages have unmet dependencies: mplayer-nogui: Depends: libggi2 (>= 1:2.0.5) but it is not installable
[04:23] <foo> E: Broken packages
[04:23] <foo> Any ideas?
[04:23] <chakra85> alakriti, does it work the other way? if i operate on the original file with that change the symlink?
[04:23] <rgg> i am running ubuntu,and on #openoffice.org nobody answers then... :P
[04:23] <bruenig> heinouskyle, well disable the shortcuts, that is probably it, you assigned the arrow keys to perform that function and now they wont work in other functions
[04:23] <heinouskyle> i did that already, bruenig, but still no good
[04:24] <heinouskyle> even after a restart
[04:24] <chakra85> alakriti, because if it doesn't, i can upgrade the app without worrying about the customized file right?
[04:24] <heinouskyle> i don't know what else i could possible try
[04:24] <bruenig> you clicked on every shortcut and hit backspace?
[04:24] <flasher> in abiword, how do i do that horizontal line that goes from end to end? Am needing it for a resume
[04:24] <heinouskyle> most of the shortcuts i cleared
[04:24] <alakriti> chakra85: is you open the symlink in a browser it is actually opening the orignal. so if you make changes to it, its modifying the orignal
[04:24] <bruenig> do all of them,
[04:25] <bruenig> unless you are need them and are absolutely certain they don't conflict
[04:25] <heinouskyle> i just cleared everything
[04:25] <chakra85> alakriti, oh, ok... so there's no way to *override* the original with a symlink
[04:25] <bruenig> try
[04:25] <heinouskyle> still isn't working
[04:25] <robertj> flasher: I don't know anything about Abi Word but you might search the help file for "Horizontal Rule"
[04:25] <heinouskyle> do i have to restart gnome or X?
[04:25] <bruenig> heinouskyle, you could try to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and accept all of the defaults, that is all I got left
[04:25] <flasher> sorry, i accidentaly shut down this ubuntu chat room window. if you had sain something about abiword and making lines, pls say so again
[04:25] <flasher> robertj: thanks
[04:26] <bruenig> is abiword better
[04:26] <bruenig> than openoffice
[04:26] <alakriti> chakra85: so what you are trying to do is replace all the files in the install directory except that one?
[04:26] <heinouskyle> thanks, bruenig, i'm sure i'll get it sorted eventually
[04:26] <robertj> bruenig: is a train better than a car?
[04:26] <eyequeue> flasher, in html, it is <hr> you might try that?
[04:26] <chakra85> alakriti, yeah
[04:26] <flasher> bruenig: i don't know, but it's what comes wih xubuntu
[04:26] <unix> lo all
[04:26] <ardchoille> chakra85: The only thing a symlink does is point to the original file, then the synlinks' job is done.
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> Soccrmastr: How's the md5 check coming?
[04:26] <bruenig> no
[04:26] <unix> why no ops around ?
[04:26] <Soccrmastr> havent donme it yet heh sorry
[04:26] <eyequeue> unix, freenode
[04:26] <Soccrmastr> was tryign tor einstall first
[04:26] <robertj> unix: they were all ircing as root and got banned
[04:26] <bruenig> a train is set to a track
[04:26] <bruenig> cars can go anywhere
[04:26] <ardchoille> unix: They're incognito ;)
[04:27] <eyequeue> unix, no need to oper until something comes up
[04:27] <flasher> eyequeue: when i type that, i just see the code! 8-)
[04:27] <flasher> eyequeue: what am i doing wrong?
[04:27] <foo> err, I am getting this; The following packages have unmet dependencies: mplayer-nogui: Depends: libggi2 (>= 1:2.0.5) but it is not installable .. broken packages. I am on ubuntu, any ideas?
[04:27] <chakra85> alakriti, i see. well thanks for teaching me all about symlinks.. haha. i guess my attempt at being lazy failed
[04:27] <chakra85> alakriti, thanks for trying though
[04:27] <eyequeue> flasher, abiword might not interpret html unless in a special mode?
[04:27] <FunnyLookinHat> foo, you probably just need to update your /etc/apt/sources.list file...
[04:28] <eyequeue> flasher, abiword might not interpret html at all, i don't know
[04:28] <foo> FunnyLookinHat: with what?
[04:28] <FunnyLookinHat> foo, Could you paste what that file currently has for me in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:28] <ubuntu__> can u get to hard disk from liveCD bootup?
[04:28] <FunnyLookinHat> foo, to see it's contents, simply type "gedit /etc/apt/sources.list" in a terminal window
[04:28] <bruenig> it looks like the error might indicate that installing libggi2 is necessary depedency but that it would conflict with something else you already have or that it is not in any of your sources
[04:30] <alakriti> chakra85: you could always symlink all the files in the directory to the application directory *except* for the settings.php so that when you overwrite them it works
[04:30] <heinouskyle> i've just gixed my problem
[04:30] <flasher> eyequeue: http://www.abisource.com/help/en-US/howto/howtoweb.html
[04:30] <heinouskyle> i had to restart Gnome or the X server, dont' know which
[04:30] <technel> When I run the command: "tar -czvf 08-15-2006.tar.gz /home/michael/sapp", it creates the tar/gz file, except it adds in the /home/michael/sapp directories. I want the "sapp" directory to be the first directory after you extract the archive...what am I doing wrong?
[04:30] <dribble> anybody know of a gstreamer10 applet that does cross codec conversions?
[04:30] <chakra85> alakriti, interesting... so install the app in a different place and symlink everythign except settings.php
[04:31] <ych> help, how do i shutdown my computer? it doesnt have an xserver, and when i do halt it says i must be superuser
[04:31] <chakra85> alakriti, i'll try that. thanks
[04:31] <flasher> and there is a web layout
[04:31] <alakriti> chakra85: yeah
[04:31] <ych> sudo doesnt help
[04:31] <ardchoille> technel: cd /home/michael and then do the tar command
[04:31] <bruenig> ych, do sudo shutdown -h now
[04:31] <technel> ardchoille, Yeah, but then I have to do "-f /my/long/directory/for/backups/08-15-2006.tar.gz sapp" :(
[04:32] <ych> thanks
[04:32] <ych> and im off to bed ;)
[04:32] <ardchoille> technel: cd /home/michael && tar czvf 08-15-2006.tar.gz sapp
[04:33] <eyequeue> !away
[04:33] <sycron> Ok, so I just took the leap of faith.
[04:33] <ubotu> Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[04:33] <ardchoille> technel: sorry, do this:  cd /home/michael && tar czvf /some/path/08-15-2006.tar.gz sapp
[04:33] <sycron> Windows is gone forever, no dual-boot or anything.
[04:33] <FunnyLookinHat> sycron, YES!
[04:33] <ardchoille> sycron: YAY! :)
[04:33] <technel> ardchoille, Yeah, ok ... thanks
[04:33] <sycron> Thanks
[04:34] <sycron> Alright, first newbie question. How do I add mp3 support?
[04:35] <ardchoille> !RestrictedFormats
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about RestrictedFormats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <eyequeue> !mp3 > sycron
[04:35] <angel12> where does apt-get download files?
[04:35] <eyequeue> angel12, /var/cache/apt/archives/
[04:35] <ardchoille> angel12: downloads them from the online repos to /etc/apt/archives/
[04:35] <ardchoille> oops
[04:36] <sycron> Many thanks
[04:36] <angel12> awesome thanks guys
[04:36] <ardchoille> angel12: downloads them from the online repos to /var/cache/apt/archives/
[04:36] <phiber_optic> does anybody know why when I download somthing the md5 is not the same?
[04:36] <casltewindxx> Hello everyone, I am looking to customize my shell
[04:36] <ardchoille> !away > eno
[04:36] <casltewindxx> I just loaded ubuntu
[04:36] <phiber_optic> and Ive tried to download more than 5 times from different mirrios
[04:37] <ardchoille> phiber_optic: What are you using to download?
[04:37] <phiber_optic> right now im in windows
[04:37] <phiber_optic> so im using the webbroser
[04:37] <ardchoille> heh, figures
[04:38] <casltewindxx> do I need to surce bash.bashrc from .profile or profile
[04:38] <casltewindxx> I have just cat bash.bashrc and its in a if statement already...
[04:38] <TheGame> sup
[04:38] <bruenig> castlewindxx, not much into customizing shell, but I remember editing ~/.bashrc for a few aliases if that is what you mean
[04:39] <phiber_optic> archoille any hints??
[04:40] <ardchoille> No, sorry, I haven't touched Windows since 1999
[04:40] <bruenig> havent touched at all?
[04:40] <bruenig> that seems unlikely
[04:40] <bruenig> no school or work or anything
[04:40] <eyequeue> bruenig, why?  i never did
[04:41] <ardchoille> bruenig: I haven't touched Windows since 1999.. I can do everything I need to do in Ubuntu, no need for Windows
[04:41] <meuserj> yeah, I've barely touched windows since like 98
[04:41] <flasher> too bad abiword can't save files as pdf. 8- (
[04:41] <bruenig> I touched it today at school, seems like if you ever use any other computer, you are likely to have to use windows, I only use it when I have to, when it is on somebody else's computer
[04:41] <TheGame> have u guys seen the orange ubuntu wallpaper thats a copy of the mac wallpaper
[04:42] <phiber_optic> any other ideas why when I download its corrupted?
[04:42] <ardchoille> bruenig: That's what LiveCD's are for ;)
[04:42] <eyequeue> bruenig, you may need to burn yourself a livecd to carry ;)
[04:42] <bruenig> phiber_optic, used bittorrent
[04:42] <flasher> is there an online service that can transform an abiword file OR a doc file into PDF?
[04:42] <JDStone> I'm having problems with xserver
[04:42] <eyequeue> ardchoille, heh
[04:42] <unkn0wn2u> my sound card doesn't work after i upgraded to 6.06 i modpobed snd_vi82xx and dmesg doesnt show too much
[04:42] <JDStone> I'm getting errors when trying to start X
[04:42] <flasher> eyequeue: i can save abiword file as html. so maybe i'l add <hr> into the html formatted file. thanks for the tip
[04:42] <bruenig> ardchoille, not sure the librarian would like to see my booting a disk on the school's computer as incompetent as she is, she is still likely to pick up on that
[04:43] <xceptiona1> I just installed ubuntu on a windows xp home computer, after the install it had me remove the cd and reboot...but it just boots back to windows home, it doesnt go to GRUB?
[04:43] <eyequeue> flasher, yeah, view it with lynx or something to confirm i have it right of course
[04:43] <bruenig> ubuntu's live cd is a bit slow, I could use one of the faster one's I suppose and carry it with me, like dreamlinux or the like
[04:44] <ardchoille> bruenig: If I can't use Linux (be it a LiveCD or an installed Ubuntu system) I won't use the computer.
[04:44] <eyequeue> bruenig, for me, i think i'd just need ssh on one, then ssh to home, not sure if that's an option for you or not
[04:44] <bruenig> JDStone, what is the error
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> I'm looking for someone who's used a digital projector.  Re: tty vs. X output.
[04:46] <JDStone> bruenig: could not open default font 'fixed'
[04:46] <bruenig> not an option for me unfortunately as we can't put disks in the computers, I think they fear viruses
[04:46] <xceptiona1> any ideas how to get GRUB to override XP Home?
[04:46] <eyequeue> !grub
[04:46] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[04:47] <ardchoille> bruenig: Well, they're not very intelligent then.. maybe you should enlighten them about Ubuntu :)
[04:47] <bruenig> Using Internet Explorer was great though, no tabs or anything
[04:47] <bruenig> didn't have to deal with the headache of multiple tabs and complexities they bring
[04:47] <azureal> bruenig, sarcasm
[04:47] <azureal> your sarcasm is drowning me ;)
[04:47] <ardchoille> lol
[04:48] <MrParanoia> well, i just installed utbuntu 6.06 but it didn't allow me to set a root password - so, i can't do any root operations
[04:48] <eyequeue> !rootsudo > MrParanoia
[04:48] <ardchoille> !rootsudo > MrParanoia
[04:48] <xceptiona1> anyone know how to fix windows overriding grub?
[04:48] <eyequeue> MrParanoia, we don't want root in ubuntu
[04:48] <bruenig> ardchoille, yeah I kind of think it unlikely for them to change as there are probably 400+ computers in the school and they all run windows attendance software and even if I told them about linux, they would probably say "so this runs in windows or what?"
[04:48] <eyequeue> !grub > xceptiona1
[04:48] <MrParanoia> how do i set the time then?
[04:49] <JDStone> bruenig: the error is "could not open default font 'fixed'"
[04:49] <eyequeue> MrParanoia, read the page the bot sent you
[04:49] <McNutella> hello, if some ass gets comfy on my wifi network, is there anything i can do to mess their system up a little for fun ?
[04:49] <bruenig> JDStone, no idea
[04:49] <azureal> MrParanoia, there's a way to set up root if you want ;)
[04:49] <MrParanoia> only rot, sudo or su will do that
[04:49] <ardchoille> MrParanoia: Please read the links ubotu sent you
[04:49] <bruenig> I know fonts is at System>Preferences>fonts
[04:49] <MrParanoia> rot == root
[04:49] <JDStone> ok, thanks bruenig
[04:49] <azureal> *cough* sudo su *cough cough*
[04:49] <bruenig> maybe mess around in there
[04:49] <ardchoille> azureal: Please don't tell people how to enable the root account. It's not supported config and can cause problems later
[04:49] <MrParanoia> ardchoille> i didn't get it
[04:49] <eyequeue> azureal, that is deprecated in this channel, please don't advise that
[04:50] <ardchoille> !rootsudo
[04:50] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:50] <azureal> it is?!
[04:50] <eyequeue> azureal, very
[04:50] <azureal> what kind of debian system is this =)
[04:50] <eyequeue> azureal, ubuntu
[04:50] <eyequeue> azureal, different design criteria, i guess you'd say
[04:50] <azureal> that was actually one of my few caveats
[04:51] <JDStone> what's ubuntu's X11 font package?
[04:51] <azureal> the whole sudo emphasis was not...pleasing to me
[04:51] <useruser> my only monitor is broken, and I want to erase my hard disk over ssh. how can i do that?
[04:51] <eyequeue> azureal, i think the "no open ports" was another
[04:51] <bruenig> azureal, you can always do sudo su
[04:51] <azureal> bruenig, i can also 'su'
[04:52] <bruenig> indeed, those 5 characters are tough on the hands
[04:52] <azureal> i might actually disable sudo su..
[04:52] <useruser> or better yet, is it possible to do a headless installation over ssh?
[04:52] <MrParanoia> ardchoille> thanks - this is certainly different from mandriva
[04:52] <kyefun> anyone had experience with bluetooth file browsing on linux?
[04:52] <unkn0wn2u> whats the difference between doing sudo su and su ,, root is root
[04:52] <ardchoille> MrParanoia: Indeed.. it's much better ;)
[04:52] <azureal> sudo su goes into a log somewhere
[04:53] <MrParanoia> now, i need to get my wireless card setup
[04:53] <eyequeue> see where this discussion leads? :(
[04:53] <bruenig> precious disk space
[04:53] <azureal> su --> root password      sudo su --> your passwd
[04:53] <chatterman> hello i need help, ubuntu root password ?
[04:53] <ardchoille> unkn0wn2u: You shouldn't be able to su  because the root account is disabled
[04:53] <eyequeue> chatterman, NO NO NO
[04:53] <eyequeue> !rootsudo > chatterman
[04:53] <chatterman> why not ?
[04:53] <unkn0wn2u> ardchoille, no i enabled mine
[04:53] <ardchoille> chatterman: use sudo
[04:53] <azureal> ardchoille, what do you mean, disabled
[04:53] <eyequeue> chatterman, read the link
[04:53] <ardchoille> !rootsudo
[04:53] <selfharm> can someone help me share a printer installed on ubuntu server on my windows network? i have printer installed on dapper, all is well. just need to share
[04:53] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:53] <bruenig> chatterman, precede all commands that you need root for with 'sudo' then enter your user password
[04:54] <ardchoille> Read the rootsudo link folks, it explains it there
[04:54] <chatterman> thats it ?
[04:54] <eyequeue> chatterman, read the link, yes
[04:54] <MrParanoia> but, i don't like using a users password for doing admin functions
[04:54] <bruenig> is shuttleworth seriously asking for donations on the forums?
[04:55] <Celeste> I have an offtopic question - but I am ubuntu user *g*
[04:55] <chatterman> brb
[04:55] <azureal> ooh..new xine output... [mpeg4 @ 0xb653fc44] header damaged
[04:55] <ardchoille> MrParanoia: Sorry, that's the way Ubuntu handles admin tasks
[04:55] <eyequeue> !offtopic
[04:55] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[04:55] <unkn0wn2u> why is this room so psycho about sudo vs su who cares unless your a admin on an important server , I could run as root all the time on my desktop comp cause i dont care
[04:55] <Celeste> thank you eyequeue
[04:55] <azureal> MrParanoia, you'd have to look into configuring the sudoers file
[04:55] <eigenlambda> unkn0wn2u: maybe you could
[04:55] <stiv2k> how do i get lm-sensors working properly?  This guide i found on the forums doesn't work.
[04:55] <azureal> to set all your sudo needs
[04:55] <eigenlambda> but some people don't back up regularly
[04:55] <eyequeue> unkn0wn2u, you don't care means WE are attacked from your rooted box
[04:55] <TheGame> i dont back up regularly
[04:56] <TheGame> and i paid for it last night
[04:56] <ardchoille> eyequeue: Thank you :)
[04:56] <JDStone> how would I get Xserver working on ubuntu-server?
[04:56] <unkn0wn2u> eyequeue, thats what i'm worried about
[04:56] <eigenlambda> unkn0wn2u: if you really want su, just alias sudo -i to su or something
[04:56] <JDStone> what package(s) do I install?
[04:56] <useruser> will rm -rf / actually succeed in wiping my disk?
[04:56] <eyequeue> unkn0wn2u, you don't care means you are the cause of countless net troubles and should take yourself offline asap
[04:56] <ardchoille> useruser: Not every bit of it
[04:56] <useruser> ardchoille: is there a way to do that?
[04:56] <phiber_optic> what is the difference between ubuntu and slack?
[04:57] <stiv2k> !lmsensors
[04:57] <ubotu> You might find something useful at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[04:57] <ardchoille> useruser: What exactly are you trying to do?
[04:57] <useruser> ardchoille: wipe my disk
[04:57] <sproingie> phiber_optic: organization of files, the apt packaging system, the programs that come with it
[04:57] <Lane> I have two questions, is there a security channel for ubuntu that is populated, and is there a server channel for debian/ubuntu?
[04:57] <unkn0wn2u> eyequeue, your nuts my sudo account can be compromised too
[04:57] <useruser> ardchoille: i'm giving away my computer, don't want to leave anything around just in case
[04:57] <ardchoille> useruser: To what end? To have an empty disk?
[04:57] <eyequeue> unkn0wn2u, your apathy does not justify spewing bad security practices in here
[04:57] <ardchoille> useruser: Oh, ok, I understand now
[04:58] <phiber_optic> sproingie in what sense
[04:58] <phiber_optic> which is better?
[04:58] <phargle> useruser: soak it in peanut butter to get rid of everything
[04:58] <sproingie> phiber_optic: call me biased, being in #ubuntu, but i'll say ubuntu is better
[04:58] <azureal> useruser: just look into formatting
[04:58] <useruser> phargle: nono, it's meant to be usable :)
[04:58] <DShepherd> sproingie: your bias :-D
[04:58] <phargle> oh right, sorry :P
[04:58] <useruser> azureal: the snag is that my monitor is on the blink, so i have to be able to do it over ssh from my laptop
[04:58] <phiber_optic> sproingie i just want to hear why is better
[04:59] <nocti>  is there a way to copy files but automatically ignore those files that can't be read without doing a stat on them? thanks
[04:59] <phiber_optic> all i read in the web is slack is for the expert user rather than ubuntu for the noob
[04:59] <eigenlambda> which is better: windows 95 or ubuntu 6.06?
[04:59] <azureal> ubuntu
[04:59] <eyequeue> useruser, man dd if you want to get rid of file contents as well, not just the filenames
[04:59] <eigenlambda> phiber_optic: ubuntu is good for xpertz too
[04:59] <unkn0wn2u> eyequeue, glad to hear your spreading goodness everywhere by yelling dont use su , change the world one user at a time huh? , kinda like jesus
[04:59] <useruser> eyequeue: like dd /dev/zero + find?
[04:59] <bruenig> windows 3.1 is pretty much the same as ubuntu 6.06 as best as I can remember
[04:59] <azureal> eigenlambda, if you really want a challenge, try gentoo
[05:00] <dillbertdabomb> hard drive not mounting help!
[05:00] <eigenlambda> lol
[05:00] <sproingie> phiber_optic: slackware has nothing like apt (which ubuntu gets from debian)
[05:00] <ardchoille> phiber_optic: The only person who can answer that question is you. I use Ubuntu because I have never had to compile anything, the repos are huge, it's stable enough for me, apt-get is fast compared to others.
[05:00] <eyequeue> unkn0wn2u, troll elsewhere
[05:00] <eigenlambda> i got n00bed by gentoo
[05:00] <DShepherd> !offtopic
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[05:00] <azureal> eigenlambda, first, you get to wait 9hrs while gentoo installs ;)
[05:00] <eigenlambda> ya
[05:00] <phiber_optic> in terems of learning linux
[05:00] <eigenlambda> i needed my computer up now, not in 9hrs
[05:00] <useruser> eyequeue: hm, man dd isn't too enlightening
[05:00] <phiber_optic> where will i learn more??
[05:00] <eigenlambda> phiber_optic: u will learn more in ubuntu
[05:00] <useruser> phiber_optic: the rute book is good
[05:00] <eigenlambda> because you will learn at your own pase
[05:00] <azureal> phiber_optic, just practice.... any distro
[05:00] <eigenlambda> rather than giving up
[05:01] <dillbertdabomb> hard drive not mounting: help!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:01] <sproingie> phiber_optic: any distribution that says "you will learn linux by using it", run.  it means it's broken, and you'll learn about fixing it
[05:01] <rockzman> can someone tell me how can i mount my partition to write on windows partitions
[05:01] <dillbertdabomb> hard drive not mounting: help!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:01] <kyeyekkarn> What's the best wa to set up a local network between an XP and a Ubuntu box?
[05:01] <sproingie> phiber_optic: the only distribution about the deep organizational voodoo of a linux distribution is Linux From Scratch
[05:01] <phiber_optic> the thing before i was using ubuntu but I sensed that I dint learn much
[05:01] <useruser> sproingie: the word run is highly ambiguous in that first sentence :P
[05:01] <phiber_optic> :(
[05:01] <ardchoille> rockzman: Are the Windows partitions NTFS?
[05:01] <phiber_optic> although i really liked it
[05:01] <rockzman> ardchoille: yea sure
[05:01] <eyequeue> useruser, you worried about criminal investigations?  or just a general wipe of the drive?
[05:02] <eigenlambda> giving n00bs choices is a recipe for disaster.  Rather, you should give them good defaults, make every change they make recoverable, and /then/ give them choices when you've told them what the differences are
[05:02] <useruser> sproingie: run away or run it?
[05:02] <sproingie> useruser: heh, good catch
[05:02] <dillbertdabomb> hard drive not mounting: help!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:02] <phiber_optic> so i research it on the net and everybody says slack its the way
[05:02] <sproingie> useruser: depends if you're a masochist or not :)
[05:02] <ardchoille> !tell dillbertdabomb about patience
[05:02] <eigenlambda> useruser: your ubuntu is running
[05:02] <dillbertdabomb> hard drive not mounting: help!!!!!!!!!!!!
[05:02] <useruser> eyequeue: general wipe would be good enough, but just deleting partitions would leave me uncomfortable
[05:02] <foo> err, I am getting this; The following packages have unmet dependencies: mplayer-nogui: Depends: libggi2 (>= 1:2.0.5) but it is not installable .. broken packages. I am on ubuntu, any ideas?
[05:02] <azureal> rockzman, just create a fat32 partition... it's hard to write to ntfs
[05:02] <DShepherd> please.... guys talk your offtopic to #ubuntu-offtopic.. this is an ubuntu support channel
[05:02] <useruser> eyequeue: yes, i'm running ubuntu on the victim box
[05:02] <ardchoille> dillbertdabomb: chill, someone will answer if they know
[05:02] <coasterdude90> hey I'm having problems installing ubuntu
[05:02] <dillbertdabomb> ok
[05:02] <DShepherd> s/talk/take
[05:02] <eyequeue> useruser, dd if=/dev/zero of=wherever :)
[05:03] <bruenig> coasterdude90, what is the problem
[05:03] <useruser> eyequeue: what's the wherever though?
[05:03] <rockzman> azureal: i need to fix my windows partiition
[05:03] <eigenlambda> hm.  not mounting?  lots of possible problems... does your computer even know its there?
[05:03] <dillbertdabomb> yep
[05:03] <useruser> eyequeue: i suspect it'll bomb if i use /dev/hda1, since that's mounted...
[05:03] <eigenlambda> is it not mounting 'cause it failed a consistency check?
[05:03] <coasterdude90> when I I'm installing it gives me this error on I/O
[05:03] <coasterdude90> buffer
[05:03] <eyequeue> useruser, /dev/hdb7, orwhatever
[05:03] <ToHellWithGA> hep me hep me.  i would like to setup a mail exchanger (MX).  can it be any webpage on my apache server so long as it's formatted properly?
[05:03] <dillbertdabomb> i guess
[05:03] <dillbertdabomb> it says i cnat access it
[05:03] <azureal> rockzman, i'm pretty sure that writing to ntfs is considered buggy/unstable
[05:03] <sproingie> phiber_optic: slack has many fanboy types who extol it, but none of them will tell you it has anything in terms of convenience features
[05:03] <dillbertdabomb> to low privledge
[05:03] <useruser> eyequeue: yes, but the drive i want to wipe is /
[05:04] <eyequeue> useruser, only target the partition with dd on it last
[05:04] <eigenlambda> dillbertdabomb: ok
[05:04] <useruser> eyequeue: i'll try it anyway :)
[05:04] <rockzman> azureal: why would it be
[05:04] <eigenlambda> you need to sudo then
[05:04] <useruser> eyequeue: that's the only partition i want to wipe
[05:04] <sproingie> phiber_optic: at any rate, you can always just grab vmware player and a slackware image and try it yourself
[05:04] <phiber_optic> sproingie what do u mean
[05:04] <eigenlambda> yes, regular users aren't allowed to mount volumes
[05:04] <eigenlambda> only root can do that
[05:04] <eyequeue> useruser, it should load it into memory, run, then barf, lol
[05:04] <dillbertdabomb> ok tried it didn't work
[05:04] <Megaqwerty> How do I get the Synaptic Package Manager to display Alpha or Beta Packages?
[05:04] <useruser> eyequeue: excellent :)
[05:04] <DShepherd> eigenlambda: or users with admin privileges
[05:04] <dillbertdabomb> i dono the password
[05:05] <coasterdude90> bruenig I've burned it 3 times and downloaded it 3 times as well
[05:05] <useruser> eyequeue: damn, nearly nuked my laptop for a moment
[05:05] <coasterdude90> and still it has problems
[05:05] <sproingie> phiber_optic: we're really not into comparing distributions against each other here.  you pretty much have to try them out
[05:05] <eyequeue> useruser, lol, careful :)
[05:05] <Megaqwerty> anyone?
[05:05] <useruser> eyequeue: no go, it says permission denied even with sudo
[05:05] <azureal> rockzman, look https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[05:05] <phiber_optic> springie im not comparing
[05:06] <azureal> rockzman, "*At this time, NTFS may only be mounted read-only by the kernel. This means information may be read, but no information may be written."
[05:06] <foo> err, I am getting this; The following packages have unmet dependencies: mplayer-nogui: Depends: libggi2 (>= 1:2.0.5) but it is not installable .. broken packages. I am on ubuntu, any ideas?
[05:06] <phiber_optic> i just want to know any differneces
[05:06] <useruser> eyequeue: oh wait, i used cat
[05:06] <DShepherd> !tell phiber_optic about offtopic
[05:06] <phiber_optic> caus the ones i find on the net are not fulfiling my answer
[05:06] <eyequeue> useruser, you may need to boot to a rescue cd (does that have openssh-server though?)
[05:06] <coasterdude90> bruenig are you still there?
[05:06] <DShepherd> !tell sproingie about offtopic
[05:06] <ardchoille> phiber_optic: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[05:06] <coasterdude90> me?
[05:06] <useruser> eyequeue: well, it's chugging now
[05:06] <phiber_optic> DShepherd its not offtopic
[05:06] <h8tred> hello, does anyone know any good map software similiar to ms streets and trips?
[05:06] <eyequeue> useruser, okay
[05:07] <phiber_optic> archoille im an ubuntu user for the past 2 years
[05:07] <GoDawgs> eyequeue:  hey there :)
[05:07] <eyequeue> phiber_optic, distro comparisons are
[05:07] <eyequeue> hi GoDawgs
[05:07] <DShepherd> phiber_optic: discuss distros in ubuntu-offtopic
[05:07] <bruenig> coasterdude90, I don't know anything about that, try the alternate cd is all I can get you
[05:07] <CPUFreak91> Is there any way to keep Kubuntu 6.06 from running slowly on a lappy with 256MB of ram?
[05:07] <GoDawgs> Prepare yourselves folks... dumb question coming on... how does one install a tar.bz file?
[05:07] <bruenig> give you*
[05:07] <Megaqwerty> How do I get the Synaptic Package Manager to display Alpha or Beta Packages?
[05:07] <coasterdude90> ok
[05:07] <eyequeue> GoDawgs, you probably want to look inside that archive, right?
[05:07] <ardchoille> GoDawgs: Is it an app? If so, what is the name of the app? Have you checked the repos to see if it's there?
[05:07] <GoDawgs> eyequeue:  I think so...
[05:07] <sycron> What's a decent http download manager?
[05:07] <DShepherd> CPUFreak91: you may have better advice in the #kubuntu channel
[05:08] <bruenig> GoDawgs, do tar -zxjf /path/to/whatever.tar.gz
[05:08] <GoDawgs> ardchoille:  It's FileZilla3.tar.bz2
[05:08] <CPUFreak91> oops
[05:08] <eyequeue> GoDawgs, the gui archive manager, or bunzip the file, then untar it
[05:08] <CPUFreak91> wrong one
[05:08] <CPUFreak91> sorry
[05:08] <DShepherd> s/have/get/
[05:08] <bruenig> GoDawgs, then cd /path/to/whateverthenewdirectoryis, try to see if there is a readme, generally is
[05:08] <GoDawgs> eyequeue:  what is "untarring"?  I thought tar was the unzip
[05:08] <coasterdude90> hey bruenig could be any hardware problems?
[05:08] <dfour> Didn't utorrent used to support linux?
[05:08] <WaR^DoG> hi  how now what is the kernel version that have ubuntu iso?
[05:08] <GoDawgs> bruenig:  ok
[05:08] <eyequeue> GoDawgs, no, tar is Tape Archiver
[05:08] <bruenig> coasterdude90, i got nothing
[05:08] <eyequeue> GoDawgs, no, tar is Tape ARchiver, sorry
[05:08] <coasterdude90> ok thanks
[05:09] <GoDawgs> eyequeue:  oh... so the bz2 is the "zipping" part
[05:09] <foo> err, any ideas? unmet dependencies? Sounds like an RPM distribution. heh.
[05:09] <eyequeue> GoDawgs, bzip2, yes
[05:09] <GoDawgs> eyequeue:  that' what you said
[05:09] <chatterman> guys im trying to activate my wireless on my laptop , it doesn't look like it detects it , any ideas ? its a BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g,Broadcom Corporation ?
[05:09] <GoDawgs> eyequeue:  ok
[05:09] <eyequeue> GoDawgs, Tape ARchiver     t  ar
[05:09] <GoDawgs> eyequeue:  got it
[05:09] <Megaqwerty> Come on, someone must know how to make the Synaptic Package Manager show Alpha and Beta Packages.
[05:09] <GoDawgs> ok... there's no readme
[05:09] <bruenig> GoDawgs, now that I think about it, it might actually be tar -jxvf not zxjf, in fact I am pretty sure it is -jxvf
[05:09] <lukus001> can anyone tell me how i can install glibc_2.4 please
[05:10] <bruenig> well you got it untarred so that is moot I guess
[05:10] <ardchoille> bruenig: Yep
[05:10] <GoDawgs> bruenig:  you do realize you just spoke to me... right? :)
[05:10] <bruenig> GoDawgs, what is in there?
[05:10] <bruenig> anything that says configure?
[05:10] <WaR^DoG> as it is the version that brings iso of ubuntu
[05:10] <WaR^DoG> ?
[05:10] <GoDawgs> bruenig:  a bunch of files starting with dir "bin" and "share"
[05:10] <eyequeue> GoDawgs, bruenig's method will do it all in one commandline (which is more my way than the gui archive manger that i mentioned, heh)
[05:10] <foo> Any developers in here?>
[05:10] <GoDawgs> eyequeue:  but the only problem is I don't know how to use it
[05:11] <eyequeue> GoDawgs, those are directories bin and share, and under them are the files themselves, i'm sure
[05:11] <bruenig> GoDawgs, what is the name, I will download it and look at it
[05:11] <ardchoille> GoDawgs: The first thing I would do is look for INSTALL, README files and read them
[05:11] <eyequeue> GoDawgs, the gui thing might allow browsing
[05:11] <GoDawgs> bruenig:  It's filezilla.tar.bz2
[05:11] <lukus001> How can i install glibc_2.4 on ubuntu drapper anyone?
[05:11] <Megaqwerty> How do I get the Synaptic Package Manager to display Alpha or Beta Packages?
[05:11] <useruser> eyequeue: this is like 2001 where hal's memory banks are pulled out
[05:11] <foo> err, I am getting this; The following packages have unmet dependencies: mplayer-nogui: Depends: libggi2 (>= 1:2.0.5) but it is not installable .. broken packages. I am on ubuntu, any ideas? This sounds like an RPM issue. I left that scene ...
[05:11] <DShepherd> foo: if you want ubuntu developers you can find some at #ubuntu-devel. cant promise you'll get an answer from them. They are very busy
[05:11] <eyequeue> GoDawgs, doubleclick on the tarball file you have (tar.bz2)
[05:12] <foo> DShepherd: thanks
[05:12] <cry0gen> any of you here use ndiswrapper
[05:12] <eyequeue> useruser, daisy, daze eeeeeeeee
[05:12] <chatterman> need help for wireless please ?
[05:12] <GoDawgs> ardchoille:  ok... i'll give it another shot
[05:12] <cry0gen> Just want to know if any of you have NetworkManager working with it?
[05:12] <garrett|mobile> chatterman, what chipset are you using?
[05:12] <bruenig> GoDawgs, i dont see any tar.bz files on the download page of source forge only .zip
[05:12] <DShepherd> foo: no prob
[05:12] <chatterman> amd
[05:13] <garrett|mobile> chatterman, sorry, what laptop do you have?
[05:13] <mrnull> Where can I find the mp3 plugin for totem?
[05:13] <chungaroo> can someone help me install my belkin F5D7011 wifi card in ubuntu 6.06? all of the guides i've tried haven't worked out for me
[05:13] <eyequeue> !mps > mrnull
[05:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:13] <eyequeue> !mp3 > mrnull
[05:13] <GoDawgs> Yeah, I'm still seein' nothing....
[05:13] <Allen> hey browsing the internet is slow in ubuntu whats up?
[05:13] <Megaqwerty> Can anyone help me with the Synaptic Package Manager?
[05:13] <GoDawgs> Allen:  it's not for me
[05:13] <zanpakuto> has anyone used xen kernel package from edgy eft? Is there a xenU/domU package, or is it ok to also use the kernel for xen on domU
[05:13] <GoDawgs> Allen:  must be your isp
[05:13] <chungaroo> can someone help me install my belkin F5D7011 wifi card in ubuntu 6.06? all of the guides i've tried haven't worked out for me
[05:13] <chatterman> compakpressario model 200
[05:13] <chatterman> 2000
[05:14] <Allen> no only browsing in http content is slow in ubuntu
[05:14] <JoelMax> i need help with this problem  (X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.)
[05:14] <eyequeue> Allen, some people have a poorly configured router upstream from them with ipv6 problems
[05:14] <GoDawgs> Allen:  that's odd... i'm not having that problem at all... OTHER problems yes... that one no
[05:14] <CPUFreak91> I suppose it's futile to ask if one can swap the position of the GNOME pannels?
[05:14] <eyequeue> Allen, that's why it may be you but not him
[05:14] <bruenig> GoDawgs, cd into that new directory, then do cd bin, then ./filezilla
[05:14] <GoDawgs> brug
[05:14] <GoDawgs> oops
[05:14] <bruenig> all in the terminal
[05:14] <GoDawgs> bruenig:  ok... give me a sec
[05:15] <chatterman> 802.11g,Broadcom Corporation
[05:15] <ardchoille> CPUFreak91: No, it's easy to do. Right click the panel, choose properties and have a look in there
[05:15] <eyequeue> Allen, search for "ipv6" on the forums for a fix
[05:15] <Megaqwerty> chungaroo: this guide should do it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=196509
[05:15] <Allen> apt-get is fast ftp is fast but when I try to do anything in firefox it is painfulling slow
[05:15] <ardchoille> Allen: Firefox?
[05:15] <CPUFreak91> ardchoille: Ok. Thanks
[05:15] <kyeyekkarn> Anyone here use vmware?
[05:15] <eyequeue> Allen, that would be name lookup, yes
[05:15] <eyequeue> Allen, search for "ipv6" on the forums for a fix
[05:15] <bruenig> kyeyekkarn, did once
[05:16] <Allen> thanks eyequeue
[05:16] <chungaroo> Megaqwerty, when i do: "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" i get an error
[05:16] <nocti>  there is no way to burn cds on a laptop running a live rescue cd with only one drive?
[05:16] <GoDawgs> bruenig:  nope... I'm getting bash: cd: /home/Kelley/Desktop/FileZilla3.tar.bz2: No such file or directory
[05:16] <JoelMax> i need help with this problem  (X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.)
[05:16] <GoDawgs> I suppose I should extract it first?
[05:16] <bruenig> GoDawgs, the extracted file, yes
[05:16] <DShepherd> nocti: not that I know of
[05:16] <GoDawgs> bruenig:  ok
[05:16] <nocti> fckt
[05:16] <bruenig> do tar -jxvf filezilla2.tar.bz2
[05:16] <bruenig> capitlize the F and Z
[05:17] <bruenig> and make the 2 a 3
[05:17] <eyequeue> nocti, that's an unfortunate gotcha, the inability to remove the cd, i wish i knew a workaround
[05:17] <bruenig> you get the idea
[05:17] <GoDawgs> bruenig:  still no... bash: cd: /home/Kelley/Desktop/FileZilla3: No such file or directory
[05:17] <ardchoille> bruenig: Not sure if you know this or not, but we no longer need the "-" in "tar -zxvf"
[05:17] <GoDawgs> that's what it extracted to on my desktop
[05:17] <bruenig> wha!
[05:17] <bruenig> my carpal tunnel has been progressed
[05:17] <lukus001> can anyone tell me how to add edgy's repositories to synaptic? i cant find anything concerning the actuall link?
[05:17] <bruenig> for nothing
[05:17] <Megaqwerty> chungaroo: I'll need more detail than "I get an error" Explain it to me over the pm
[05:17] <bruenig> GoDawgs, to cd /hom/Keylley/Desktop/F, then hit tab and then enter
[05:18] <GoDawgs> ok
[05:18] <DShepherd> lukus001: brave one.. you can try asking in ubuntu+1
[05:18] <sniff_> how to install wireless usb driver CNet model usb cnusb-611
[05:18] <bruenig> do /home*
[05:18] <Soccrmastr> ok guys, right after xubuntu is installed, I restart and I log in, (all command text still no graphics) I log in, then I get the command line, what command should be used to bring upn the graphics interface?
[05:18] <chatterman> garrett-mobile u still with me ?
[05:18] <DShepherd> lukus001: #ubuntu+1 that is
[05:18] <chungaroo> Megaqwerty, check the pm.  i pasted the error in there
[05:18] <bruenig> my god I am typoing everywhere
[05:18] <lukus001> DShepherd brave? why
[05:18] <eyequeue> bruenig, gnu dropped the -, but non-gnu tar still uses it, fwiw ... also non-gnu uses different switches for bzip2, if it handles it at all
[05:18] <Sythen> How do I mount an NTFS partition? I don't know what partition it is, but I have [FAT]  [free space]  [NTFS]  [Linux]  [swap]
[05:18] <bruenig> Soccrmastr, startx
[05:18] <Megaqwerty> chungaroo: I didn't get it.
[05:18] <GoDawgs> bruenig:  same :(
[05:18] <DShepherd> lukus001: its edgy.. the name says it all..
[05:18] <Soccrmastr> ok i hope it'll work didnt work at the last install
[05:18] <Megaqwerty> over Irc?
[05:19] <bruenig> GoDawgs, if the directory exists you can cd into it
[05:19] <GoDawgs> bruenig:  I'm lookin right at it
[05:19] <DShepherd> Soccrmastr: sudo /etc/init.d/xdm start?
[05:19] <bruenig> try cd ~/Desktop, then do ls and see what it is named
[05:19] <lukus001> DShepherd its only to get the glibc_2.4 file for cinelerra
[05:19] <eyequeue> lukus001, edgy questions in #ubuntu+1 btw
[05:19] <GoDawgs> let me try it again
[05:19] <chatterman> garrett|mobile: u still here
[05:19] <Soccrmastr> wait i gotta do soemthing eh Ill try in a little bit
[05:19] <DShepherd> lukus001: ok.. ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:19] <deep__> Hello there
[05:20] <MrParanoia> doesn't exist on my install: To start Terminal choose Applications  Accessories  Terminal .
[05:20] <morphix> i used to have breezy installed on a usb hdd, but i had to edit a few things to make USB modules load at startup.. for dapper do i have to go through the editing the stuff for usb again?? or?
[05:20] <bruenig> !offtopic > deep__
[05:20] <sniff_> how to install wireless usb driver CNet model usb cnusb-611
[05:20] <GoDawgs> stupid mistake bruenig ... I had an uppercase in my Name when it should have been lower
[05:20] <GoDawgs> bruenig:  ok so I'm in now
[05:20] <garrett|mobile> chatterman, Yeah, sorry. I'm not having any luck bringing anything up. I'll keep looking and hook you up if I can find anything. Bare with me, I'm kind of spread out at the momeny.
[05:20] <garrett|mobile> moment*
[05:20] <eyequeue> morphix, if so, adding them to /etc/modules (and reboot) should suffice
[05:20] <bruenig> so cd bin, then ./filezilla
[05:21] <DJJUM> hi, what is a good java ide for Ubuntu?
[05:21] <MrParanoia> as a matter of fact, my applications menu shows the old mandriva applications and none of the ubuntu applications
[05:21] <GoDawgs> bruenig:  kelley@kelley-laptop:/bin$ ./filezilla
[05:21] <GoDawgs> bash: ./filezilla: No such file or directory
[05:21] <chatterman> thanks garrett|mobile, i appeciated
[05:21] <bruenig> GoDawgs, not cd /bin, cd bin
[05:21] <eyequeue> morphix, oh, booting from usb?  that's different then what i was about to say, that it was automatic in dapper.  unsure, sorry
[05:21] <chungaroo> Megaqwerty, can you not see my PMs?
[05:21] <morphix> eyequeue: i am just asking about does dapper properly support installing to a usb hdd without the need of editing stuff to get it working?
[05:21] <mrnull> i installed gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad, how come totem still can't find the right plugin for mp3s?
[05:21] <bruenig> as in the bin that is in the directory you were in
[05:21] <GoDawgs> ok
[05:22] <Megaqwerty> No, I can't did you "/msg nickserv identify <password>"?
[05:22] <eyequeue> morphix, i'm now curious though, so if you find out, please tell me :)
[05:22] <DShepherd> DJJUM: eclipse seems to be good. you need to enable the universe repos
[05:22] <deep__> How can i check my xorg version?
[05:22] <GoDawgs> bruenig:  oh okay.... but... it didn't install necessairly... so do i have to go through that mess everytime I wanna run it?
[05:22] <Megaqwerty> chungaroo: if you didn't that should make it work
[05:22] <Megaqwerty> you will have to resend your error though.
[05:22] <eyequeue> deep__, dpkg -l xserver-xorg
[05:23] <deep__> Thanx. :)
[05:23] <DJJUM> thanks i have exlipse i might check it out
[05:23] <bruenig> GoDawgs, what I would do is mv the directory to /opt, then write a bash script that would start it for me and then create a launcher in the menu, all of that is probably a bit complicated
[05:23] <ToHellWithGA> could somebody help me find my MX and then help me edit it?
[05:23] <DShepherd> DJJUM: no prob
[05:23] <Allen> alrighty I think I found it eyequeue
[05:23] <Allen> I am gonna try it
[05:24] <GoDawgs> bruenig:  oh gosh... what a head ache... man, I just want a good FTP client (gui)
[05:24] <Woosta> Did someone break something with USB? Since an update yesterday a lot of my single clicks are registering as double clicks .. which is REALLY REALLY pissing me off
[05:24] <Megaqwerty> chungaroo: are you there?
[05:24] <bruenig> GoDawgs, I could guide you if you want, a lot more command line stuff though
[05:24] <chungaroo> Megaqwerty, i don't think you can see my PMs for some reason
[05:25] <Megaqwerty> chungaroo: I know, you need to type this:
[05:25] <bruenig> perhaps I should message you or what not if you want to do it as there is no reason to fill this channel up
[05:25] <GoDawgs> bruenig:  you're sweet... this is only alpha software... so i don't know how well it's gonna work... maybe I should wait until it's final
[05:25] <Megaqwerty> "/msg nickserv identify <password>
[05:25] <DarkAudit> other than size, what's the difference between Azureus2.jar as packaged and the one straight from Azureus themselves?
[05:25] <GoDawgs> bruenig:  thanks though!
[05:25] <chungaroo> Megaqwerty:  FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[05:25] <s|k> hi
[05:25] <Megaqwerty> ok
[05:25] <bruenig> GoDawgs, when it is final, all you would have to do is replace it and all of the other stuff would stay the same
[05:25] <Megaqwerty> chungaroo: what command did you type?
[05:25] <s|k> can anyone tell me how I can figure out which version of amd 64 3000 I have? I can't tell from the box or the included info
[05:25] <GoDawgs> bruenig:  ok, that's good to know
[05:26] <bruenig> but whatever I am going to sleep then
[05:26] <chungaroo> Megaqwerty: sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:26] <cry0gen> ndiswrapper is cool
[05:26] <cry0gen> too bad only wpa_supplicant is working with it right now :\
[05:26] <DShepherd> s|k: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:26] <DarkAudit> when I replaced the packaged jar, I got the frog icon in the system tray again
[05:26] <cry0gen> i want network-manager to work with it unfortunately it wont
[05:26] <Megaqwerty> chungaroo: have you already done these steps successfully?
[05:26] <Megaqwerty> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/Desktop/bcmwl5.inf sudo ndiswrapper -m sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[05:26] <s|k> DShepherd: I haven't gotten that far yet :)
[05:27] <s|k> still building it
[05:27] <DShepherd> s|k: I am not sure if that will work though
[05:27] <Megaqwerty> (except the modprobe one)
[05:27] <chungaroo> Megaqwerty: "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" returns the error i pasted above. up until then it's fine
[05:27] <Megaqwerty> hm...
[05:27] <DShepherd> s|k: ask the manufacturers then? :-)
[05:27] <s|k> DShepherd: shouldn't it be on the box or in the thing somewhere?
[05:27] <s|k> :(
[05:27] <sniff_> Megaqwerty: how about if *.inf have 3 files
[05:27] <DShepherd> s|k:  i guess
[05:28] <cafuego> chatterman: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper
[05:28] <chatterman> thanks
[05:28] <Megaqwerty> sniff_: your guess is as good as mine at this point.
[05:28] <compilerwriter> Help I am having trouble with skype!!!
[05:28] <Megaqwerty> chungaroo: give me a minute, I might have a solution for you, let me just check it out...
[05:29] <cry0gen> gnome network manager x-x
[05:29] <cry0gen> it works but it doesnt
[05:29] <cry0gen> this is frustrating
[05:29] <argument> how can i get firefox to play windows media player format videos?
[05:29] <cry0gen> the password prompt pops up
[05:29] <argument> i followed the instructions on the restricted formats guide and installed totem
[05:29] <cry0gen> and the activity light blinks like it's communicating
[05:29] <cry0gen> but it' isnt
[05:29] <Megaqwerty> chungaroo: I figured out a workaround!
[05:30] <argument> and the totem-plugin and all that good stuff, but for example upon going to a site in windows, the video starts playing automatically but not in firefox
[05:30] <chungaroo> Megaqwerty: =] ] ] ]
[05:30] <sniff_> Megaqwerty: so it must be type 3 time -> ndiswrapper -i ~/Desktop/file.inf
[05:30] <Megaqwerty> chungaroo: use the synaptic package manager, to install ndiswrapper-utils that should finish that step of the setup.
[05:30] <allen> hey
[05:30] <cry0gen> lol
[05:30] <cry0gen> oddly you guys are talking about ndiswrapper
[05:30] <godtvisken> How do I check cron errormessages?
[05:31] <allen> I got the internet issues resolved
[05:31] <typhoid> Hello, everyone.  I have a silly question..  Where are most of the files installed by default on ubuntu (dapper) -- things like httpd
[05:31] <cry0gen> it all works for me
[05:31] <compilerwriter> I need to configure my sound device or something.
[05:31] <cry0gen> cept, i am REQUIRED to use wpa_supplicant
[05:31] <cry0gen> quite anoying.
[05:31] <eyequeue> allen, great, what was the fix?
[05:31] <Megaqwerty> chungaroo: tell me if that does it. If not, try sniff_'s idea.
[05:32] <mrnull> sometimes when i try to start applications, they never appear (no matter how many times I click them.)
[05:32] <chungaroo> Megaqwerty: it asks if i want to re-install it.
[05:32] <allen> eyequeue, open firefox and go to about:congif then set the network.dns.ipv6 seting to true
[05:32] <CrashTest> Hi all, man, this is one busy channel :)  Anybody know how to view "Comments" in a Word document in OpenOffice.org Writer?
[05:32] <Megaqwerty> chungaroo: say "Yes"
[05:32] <eyequeue> mrnull, start them from a terminal to see the error messages
[05:32] <eyequeue> allen, ahh
[05:32] <mrnull> eyequeue: cool.  how do i do that?
[05:32] <Megaqwerty> then continue the setup process
[05:33] <eyequeue> mrnull, open a terminal, type the command and press enter
[05:33] <allen> eyequeue, it was pretty simple I was afraid of some kind of terminal work again
[05:33] <eyequeue> mrnull, open a terminal, type "firefox" as example
[05:33] <godtvisken> How can I check crontab error messages?
[05:34] <eyequeue> godtvisken, unless redirected to /dev/null, root should get them mailed (ie, your user gets them)
[05:34] <k0shi> Are Prism based WiFi cards hard to install on xubuntu?
[05:34] <compilerwriter> Any skype experts out there?
[05:34] <eyequeue> allen, nah, not everything is painful ;)
[05:34] <typhoid> where might i find the httpd executable?  It is not available in my current path ><
[05:34] <godtvisken> eyequeue: mailed? ehm, i have a cronjob to play a music song, but it only starts to play then stops
[05:34] <eyequeue> typhoid, which server package?
[05:35] <typhoid> it's ubuntu dapper, thank you eyequeue
[05:35] <argument> typhoid, what are you looking for specifically
[05:35] <heel3k> how involved is it to get cisco's vpn client installed?
[05:35] <argument> typhoid, you can find out where files in a package are placed by using synaptic
[05:35] <typhoid> argument, I am working on getting mod_mono working with apache2
[05:35] <chungaroo> Megaqwerty: i'm not getting any luck
[05:35] <eyequeue> typhoid, apache2?  look in /usr/sbin/apache2
[05:36] <argument> typhoid, /etc/apache2 here
[05:36] <typhoid> argument: thank you kindly
[05:36] <Megaqwerty> chungaroo: what happened exactly?
[05:36] <typhoid> and thank you too eyequeue!
[05:36] <eyequeue> typhoid, being a daemon, it's not run by users, hence not in /usr/bin
[05:36] <typhoid> i'm trying to restart httpd but the command is not in my path
[05:36] <CrashTest> compilerwriter: I know skype a bit.
[05:36] <chungaroo> Megaqwerty: well i installed it with synaptic and tried using the card but it's not recognized
[05:36] <due> /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[05:37] <due> typhoid: run that as root, voila
[05:37] <argument> typhoid, /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[05:37] <compilerwriter> crashtest perhaps you can help me fix things.
[05:37] <Megaqwerty> chungaroo: try finishing the steps in the guide I gave you
[05:37] <eyequeue> typhoid, what due said, with sudo in front, if you want to restart :)
[05:37] <argument> typhoid, http://trac.eta-beta-pi.net/wiki/HowTo/Distros-default-layout
[05:37] <typhoid> wow, thank you all!
[05:37] <due> :)
[05:37] <allen> what is the deal with ubuntus home folder
[05:37] <chungaroo> Megaqwerty: i did.
[05:37] <lumgwada> hi, can anyone tell me if it's possible in Ubuntu's Evolution to automatically turn an email into a 'task' based on it's subject  line... (possibly by piping it to a script...)
[05:37] <allen> do I have to add my own foders and everything?
[05:38] <eyequeue> allen, "ubuntu" the livecd user?
[05:38] <eyequeue> allen, /home/allen (or whatever) should have been created when the user allen was created
[05:38] <allen> it did
[05:38] <chungaroo> Megaqwerty: when i do: ndiswrapper -l to list the drivers, it says "bcmwl5 invalid driver!"
[05:38] <eyequeue> allen, /home/allen is free for you to do whatever under
[05:39] <allen> eyequeue, but it didn't make a music, movies, and all of the other folders
[05:39] <rredd4> is there any way to connect to Paltalk with Gaim?
[05:39] <Megaqwerty> chungaroo: try sniff_'s idea. I have to leave, so ask him for help. Sorry. If you are still having trouble, I should be on again tomorrow,  ask me then. Goodnight!
[05:39] <cdubya> any mysql folks here?
[05:39] <eyequeue> allen, um, how could it know what you want, and what you want to call them? :)
[05:39] <argument> cdubya, yes in #mysql
[05:40] <cdubya> argument, no there's not. At least not any that want to help.
[05:40] <eyequeue> allen, mkdir ~/music ~/movies or use the gui
[05:40] <DShepherd> rredd4: i dont know what Paltalk is.. have you asked in #gaim? that might be helpful
[05:40] <allen> eyequeue, I am fresh off of windows and a month or two before a mac, I am use to changing it
[05:40] <allen> eyequeue I did it already
[05:40] <cdubya> anyone here do much with mysql?
[05:41] <eyequeue> allen, just giving you the command syntax if you needed it
[05:41] <allen> eyequeue, thanks you guys are really helpfull, the room is kind of cluttered but you guys are great
[05:41] <Clinton__> earlier someone mentioned I should use automatix for installing w32codecs, but I am either getting the wrong version of it or something isn't working right, it isn't in the list of programs offered for installation.  (earlier someone mentioned I should use automatix )   Could someone give me a link to the proper .deb please?
[05:41] <garrett|mobile> chatterman, you still there?
[05:41] <rredd4> DShepherd  Paltalk is like Yahoo,  I am in #gaim... thanks
[05:42] <eyequeue> allen, 800 in here, it can be a zoo
[05:42] <chatterman> yes
[05:42] <cry0gen> man
[05:42] <allen> LOL
[05:42] <DShepherd> rredd4: ok kool
[05:42] <cry0gen> network-manager-gnome sucks :\
[05:42] <chatterman> yes garrett|mobile
[05:42] <mrPolite> i need to reset my keyring password, think i typed it wrong any tips?
[05:42] <cry0gen> network manager just try's to connect to my AP
[05:42] <allen> Got any recomendations on an mp3 player anyone?
[05:42] <garrett|mobile> chatterman, http://bnmr.triumf.ca/~zaher/Presario_2197CA/ might help you out.
[05:42] <eyequeue> it's why we send people to other channels for offtopic etc things
[05:42] <garrett|mobile> Walks you through on how to setup ndiswrapper
[05:42] <chatterman> thanks alot man
[05:42] <cry0gen> but, it just sits blinking the activity light
[05:43] <cdubya> allen, lots of folks seem to like amarok, I use quod libet
[05:43] <InnerCalm> I have a few questions about ubuntu, since just running the livecd... I am interested in installing a few things but wish to understand the change from windows to linux... can anyone please help me out with this
[05:43] <cdubya> allen, or you can use beep or xmms
[05:43] <garrett|mobile> chatterman, let me know if it works. I'll try to help you all I can but I'm not very experienced. I just can look for things. :P
[05:43] <eyequeue> allen, i don't know if you have this yet
[05:43] <eyequeue> !mp3 > allen
[05:44] <eyequeue> allen, mp3 support isn't default in most ubuntu apps
[05:44] <bimberi> InnerCalm: feel free to just ask away - one question at a time though :)
[05:44] <jbentleyp> how does one configure the time-to-live (autodisconnect ?) value for the telnetd daemon ?
[05:44] <chatterman> thanks for your patience and i will let u know if it works thanks again, i need to reboot for now ok later:)
[05:44] <allen> i was using armarok when I was using mepis but it was a little cluttered I want to use something else and try out
[05:44] <allen> thanks for the link eyequeue
[05:45] <cdubya> allen, I use quod libet.....I like it. Beep's pretty nice too
[05:45] <eyequeue> no prob
[05:45] <InnerCalm> K, im new to linux / ubuntu ... i wish to learn all i can about it before making the permanent change to it... one question i have is if there is a way to partition the hd to allow two OS's ... can i have both ubuntu and windows running on this computer, without any conflicting problems?
[05:45] <deep__> Is there an opposite of "grep"? Like "ls | not *.zip" ?
[05:45] <allen> cdubya thanks
[05:45] <allen> I will check it out
[05:45] <eyequeue> InnerCalm, check this url out later too :) http://rute.2038bug.com
[05:45] <cdubya> allen, np
[05:45] <cdubya> InnerCalm, yep
[05:45] <allen> but first I have to read this thingy on supported formats
[05:45] <babo> this is weird, I have 0775 set on my file. It's gid is 'user' ... yet when I try to edit it with emacs as 'user' ... it tells me that it's read-only ?????
[05:46] <lumgwada> does anyone know if it's possible to create Evolution tasks via command line (ie shell script...)
[05:46] <eyequeue> deep__, man grep :)  you want the -v switch
[05:46] <jbentleyp> how does one configure the time-to-live (autodisconnect ?) value for the telnetd daemon ?
[05:46] <deep__> eyequeue: Thanx. :)
[05:46] <bimberi> ubotu tell InnerCalm about dualboot
[05:46] <InnerCalm> bimberi, thank you.
[05:46] <Necrosan> On ubuntu-sparc, how do i change the sound to go out of the speakers instead of the internal speaker?
[05:47] <sethk> lumgwada, it is possible.  I would strace the processes and add a task in the gui, then extract the commands from the traces.
[05:47] <bimberi> InnerCalm: np :)
[05:47] <eyequeue> deep__, your example, ls | grep -v ".zip"
[05:47] <InnerCalm> Another question, The compatability with most programs i am used to... they wont work with linux... is there a way around this, or do i simply have to start using other programs?
[05:47] <allen> do you guys use mp3's?
[05:47] <godtvisken> I just set up a cronjob to play a song, but it only plays for 1 second then quits. How can I find out what is wrong?
[05:47] <cdubya> InnerCalm, which programs?
[05:47] <lumgwada> sethk: I guess so thanks for the ides, so theres no structured api then...
[05:48] <garrett|mobile> allen, yes...
[05:48] <babo> anybody got any ideas ?
[05:48] <Necrosan> On ubuntu-sparc, how do i change the sound to go out of the speakers instead of the internal speaker?
[05:48] <cdubya> allen, yep
[05:48] <InnerCalm> Lets just say for instance, some music recording software like Acid Pro
[05:48] <eyequeue> InnerCalm, typically there are free/better apps for linux ... search for "windows" on the wiki and you'll find some page listing "equivalents"
[05:48] <bimberi> InnerCalm: it's better to try the alternatives first.  If there are programs you _must_ have you can try things like wine is capable of running some windows apps under linux
[05:48] <InnerCalm> Ok.
[05:48] <bimberi> *which is capable
[05:48] <sethk> lumgwada, I'm not an expert at evolution.  I don't know of one, but I'd be willing to bet that if you can read the source, you'll find one.
[05:49] <eyequeue> InnerCalm, though i don't know the ms names, it lists them and then the linux (better) app names
[05:49] <Necrosan> On ubuntu-sparc, how do i change the sound to go out of the speakers instead of the internal speaker?
[05:49] <allen> any ogg fans in the room?
[05:49] <lumgwada> sethk: many thanks
[05:49] <mrPolite> allen: yup
[05:49] <babo> nobody ?
[05:49] <dougsko> allen: yeah dude, oggs are /colsay sweet
[05:49] <dougsko> oops
[05:49] <InnerCalm> I have a lot of music on my harddrive, and when i try to access them it says that it cannot "mount" the drive or something of that nature. Is there a way to open the files on my harddrive from linux, or is it a file compatability problem?
[05:50] <eyequeue> InnerCalm, which fs?
[05:50] <cdubya> ubotu tell InnerCalm about ntfs
[05:50] <InnerCalm> Lets see...
[05:50] <allen> dougsko mrPolite do you run into compatability issues with them? and what about quality and converting MP3's to them
[05:50] <sethk> InnerCalm, reading is no problem and no compatibility issues.  writing is different
[05:50] <dougsko> allen: you do not want to convert mp3 to ogg, if you care about sound quality
[05:51] <dougsko> allen: lossy codec -> lossy codec = very lossy
[05:51] <eyequeue> InnerCalm, it seems your fs is ntfs, from what others say
[05:51] <mrPolite> allen:  no issues here, if i need to i can convert them to mp3 for a portable player. XBMC plays them just fine off he network in differnt rooms in my home
[05:51] <garrett|mobile> allen, I'm doing fine with my collection of around 6,000 MP3's.
[05:51] <dougsko> allen: no compatibility issues though
[05:51] <InnerCalm> I believe ntfs ... it says it is not mountable and non-removable.
[05:51] <garrett|mobile> No problems here.
[05:51] <mrPolite> allen: i don't convert mp3-ogg, not worth the fidelity loss
[05:51] <InnerCalm> How can i view the music on that drive?
[05:51] <dougsko> allen: i do have to change them into mp3 to play on my mp3 player though
[05:52] <eyequeue> InnerCalm, you can mount ntfs read-only, see the link ubotu sent you
[05:52] <garrett|mobile> InnerCalm, are you getting a pmount error?
[05:52] <mrPolite> !tell InnerCalm about ntfs
[05:52] <dougsko> allen: but if you're ripping a cd, theyre perfect, half the size of mp3, and better quality
[05:52] <InnerCalm> eyequeue, thank you
[05:52] <cafuego> dougsko: Don't convert from ogg to mp3. If you need mp3, rip to mp3.
[05:52] <cdubya> InnerCalm, might have a looksee here too....https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[05:52] <InnerCalm> Yes unable to execute pmount
[05:52] <sethk> dougsko, you can't convert from one format to another and gain quality
[05:53] <allen> so which do you guys prefer?
[05:53] <sethk> InnerCalm, use sudo or do as root
[05:53] <InnerCalm> sethk, too new to understand what you mean by that =D
[05:53] <dougsko> who said that? dougsko> allen: lossy codec -> lossy codec = very lossy
[05:53] <garrett|mobile> InnerCalm, I just had a guy that was having the same error.
[05:53] <InnerCalm> sethk, first day
[05:53] <cafuego> allen: I prefer MP3, as all my devices can play them. Ogg is badly supported.
[05:53] <Linkiboy> Hi everyone
[05:53] <sethk> InnerCalm, are you doing mount at the command line?   if so, change it to sudo mount
[05:53] <InnerCalm> sethk, no im using a gui to try to access my files
[05:53] <garrett|mobile> sethk, my other guy was just trying to launch the drive in Nautilus from the Places menu.
[05:54] <sethk> InnerCalm, oh, that's harder.  someone will know, but I never use the gui for things like that.
[05:54] <garrett|mobile> sethk, just like InnerCalm is.
[05:54] <Necrosan> On ubuntu-sparc, how do i change the sound to go out of the speakers instead of the internal speaker?
[05:54] <Necrosan> On ubuntu-sparc, how do i change the sound to go out of the speakers instead of the internal speaker?
[05:54] <Linkiboy> I have a question... I was not able to play MP3's, so I installed Lame thru Synaptic Package Manager, and I still can't play MP3's... what do i do?
[05:54] <sethk> garrett|mobile, ok, then is there a way to run the gui with root privileges?
[05:54] <godtvisken> I set a cron job to run a script that plays my music, but it only plays for a second or so then quits. What could be wrong?
[05:54] <allen> I see...I am new to all of this free software stuff, I like the idea but so many of the formats aren't supported well...I am trying to decide if the politics are worth it.
[05:54] <InnerCalm> Thank you.
[05:54] <dougsko> sethk: gksudo
[05:54] <pike_> Linkiboy: wiki.ubuntu.com search for restricted
[05:54] <cafuego> allen: I find it pays to sue what works best.
[05:55] <garrett|mobile> InnerCalm, might try adding your drive to the pmount.allow list. I'm not much of a Linux geek, just getting my feet wet, so if anyone else in the room knows of a better option, speak now.
[05:55] <allen> LOL
[05:55] <garrett|mobile> Heh.
[05:55] <cafuego> allen: If that is an open program/format, all the better.
[05:55] <sethk> dougsko, right, or kusudo (or ksudo, whatever for kde).  thanks, dougsko
[05:55] <InnerCalm> Another question, I notice that a lot of linux seems to be terminal and codes (sudo , grep) and im not sure what ANY of it means... do i need to learn this?
[05:55] <dougsko> allen: yeah it depends what youre' doing
[05:55] <Linkiboy> ok ill do that
[05:55] <mrnull> how can i set my list of repositories to default?
[05:55] <InnerCalm> thank you garret
[05:55] <mrPolite> allen:  if you're willing to _not_ buy an iPod, you'll find .ogg support in many portable players
[05:55] <dougsko> allen: yeah, F ipods
[05:55] <garrett|mobile> InnerCalm, "sudo gedit /etc/pmount.allow" will get you there, then just add the device you're attempting to mount.
[05:55] <allen> I had an ipod...it is part of the reason why I switched
[05:55] <sethk> mrnull, with an editor, but I think you didn't ask the right question.
[05:55] <typhoid> can any of you tell me where to find the firefox executable in dapper?     my problem is:  I go to an .aspx page on my local computer, and it does not know what to open it with
[05:56] <sethk> mrnull, what you want to know is, what is the default repository set
[05:56] <compotatoj> I think iPod Linux can play oggs
[05:56] <TylerE> Is there some trick to getting good 2d performance out of the nvidia driver? 3d works great, but 2d is, well laggy, for instance rapidly dragging a window back and forth I get major frameskipping and general unsmoothness
[05:56] <eyequeue> typhoid, /usr/bin/firefox
[05:56] <mrnull> sethk: yes
[05:56] <pike_> typhoid: which firefox  it the command you wanted
[05:56] <garrett|mobile> InnerCalm, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=192258&page=2 is where I got that solution if you need some further reading.
[05:56] <dougsko> allen: all in all, ogg is a better codec, you just dont want to go, mp3 <--> ogg
[05:56] <sethk> TylerE, I sometimes see that, but it is caused by an ill behaved program.  If I shut everything down the problem goes away.
[05:56] <typhoid> eyequeue  - thank you =)  and pike_, i'm pretty sure that i just need the firefox commandline word in that directory,  but thank you
[05:57] <eyequeue> typhoid, right click on that file, then associate firefox with it
[05:57] <sethk> TylerE, don't know if your problem is the same one, though.  Does it always happen?
[05:57] <eyequeue> typhoid, then all of that type will work
[05:57] <TylerE> sethk: fresh install with nothing running
[05:57] <yurtle> is there an ebook reader for ubuntu?
[05:57] <bimberi> InnerCalm: you usually need the command line to smooth out issues.  One you're running smoothly though you will find that you hardly ever need it
[05:57] <TylerE> sethk: but, yes, it's very consistent
[05:57] <allen> dougsko...I wasn't going to 20gigs is a hell of a deturent
[05:57] <InnerCalm> bimberi, thank you
[05:57] <sethk> TylerE, must be different from my problem.  running gnome?  or kde?
[05:57] <mrPolite> anyone know how to reset or clear, or delete a keyring?
[05:57] <TylerE> sethk: basically my 2d perf is blowing chunks...things like scrolling in konq are also non-optimial
[05:57] <InnerCalm> You all have been a great help... ill probably be back on here tomorrow with a ton more problems ;)
[05:57] <dougsko> allen: haha yeah
[05:57] <InnerCalm> thank you !
[05:57] <TylerE> kde
[05:58] <bimberi> InnerCalm: np, have fun :)
[05:58] <sycron> Question: I'm trying to add mp3 support, and following the RestrictedFormats information on help.ubuntu.com (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats), and it says to install the gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly package, but I don't see that particular package in the manager...
[05:58] <sethk> TylerE, what box are you running with?  I want to know if mine works because it is a faster box, or your's has another nvidia specific problem.
[05:58] <garrett|mobile> InnerCalm, get it working?
[05:58] <eyequeue> !repos > sycron
[05:59] <InnerCalm> No not yet, im still trying to figure out what im doing
[05:59] <TylerE> sethk: AMD 3200+, Geforce 6600GT 128MB, 1GB of DDR...it ain't the box ;)
[05:59] <allen> any programmers in the house?
[05:59] <dougsko> allen: personally, when i dl music, its mostly in mp3, and i just leave it that way, but if im ripping a cd or want to make a .flac smaller, i go ogg
[05:59] <InnerCalm> of course i am only using livecd so that might be a problem
[05:59] <garrett|mobile> InnerCalm, ahh, gotcha. Well enjoy. See you around!
[05:59] <InnerCalm> havent even "installed" it yet
[05:59] <InnerCalm> thanks!
[05:59] <sethk> TylerE, no, I'd say not.  if you are running 64 bit, though, that could be related.
[05:59] <garrett|mobile> InnerCalm, yeah, possibly.
[05:59] <TylerE> sethk: yea, am running 64bit
[05:59] <TylerE> hrrm
[05:59] <belatucadros> so can anyone in here give me a straight forward answer on how the Geforce 6100 and the FX 5200 compare?
[06:00] <sethk> TylerE, I know it's counterintuitive, but it is possible that the driver is optimized for 32 bit in a manner that kills it for 64 bit.  wouldn't be the first time something like that happened.
[06:00] <allen> I am going to have to finish reading the sites that eyequeue sent me, right now I have way to much information to try and convert
[06:00] <sethk> TylerE, again, though, I'm just speculating
[06:00] <sethk> allen, way too much, not way to much   :)
[06:00] <Clinton__> ah... thank you for the Automatix tip ya'll :)
[06:00] <sycron> eyequeue: So do I have to edit the Sources file then?
[06:00] <gldtn> hello all
[06:01] <dougsko> ok, im out for today
[06:01] <dougsko> smell ya later
[06:01] <Linkiboy> Ok, the wiki says to install gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly, but that doesnt show up in the package manger
[06:01] <sycron> lol
[06:01] <eyequeue> sycron, right
[06:01] <garrett|mobile> Hello gldtn.
[06:01] <sycron> Alright, thanks
[06:01] <eyequeue> sycron, then sudo apt-get update
[06:01] <TylerE> sethk: it's possible...but 3d is very smooth so I'm guess it's a 2d issue of some sort
[06:01] <gldtn> does anyone knows if I need a driver to get my Marvel Yukon 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet controller to work under ubuntu 5.04?
[06:02] <sethk> TylerE, yes, I agree, but that doesn't mean that the 2d issue might not be related.
[06:02] <sethk> gldtn, I've used that quite a bit.  what problem are you having?
[06:02] <sethk> gldtn, I use the driver from marvell's web site; get the latest one.  You need kernel source to build it.
[06:02] <gldtn> sethk; it's  just not detecting my network card
[06:03] <sethk> gldtn, there is a built in driver, let me look up the name
[06:03] <TylerE> sethk: hrrm, just grabbed Xgl...lemme run that and see if things improve
[06:03] <sethk> gldtn, sk98
[06:03] <allen> sethk I am here to learn about linux and to escape my grammer lessons
[06:03] <allen> lol
[06:03] <cry0gen> damn this is anoying
[06:03] <cry0gen> wpa_sup works half the time
[06:03] <sycron> eyequeue: How can I edit sources.list in the terminal? I can navigate to the directory, just not sure how to actually edit.
[06:03] <cry0gen> and networkmanager doesnt work :\
[06:03] <sethk> gldtn, that's not the full name, it is sk98xxxx.   I'll find it in a moment if you hold on.
[06:03] <pike_> sycron: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:04] <garrett|mobile> sycron, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:04] <sycron> what's the difference between nano and gedit?
[06:04] <garrett|mobile> sycron, or nano. Pick your editor of choice. vi.
[06:04] <eyequeue> sycron, more comfortable with gui?  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:04] <gldtn> sethk; k.. what file should I added to put that in? I haven't used linux in a while.. try to get back to it..
[06:04] <eyequeue> sycron, nano is a commandline editor
[06:04] <garrett|mobile> sycron, nano and vi will bring up an editor in the terminal window. gedit is an external GUI editor...which I prefer. :P
[06:05] <Sythen> hey garrett|mobile
[06:05] <garrett|mobile> Sythen, what's up?
[06:05] <TylerE> well, under xgl 2d *is* quite a bit better
[06:05] <eyequeue> root???? mptmon
[06:05] <sycron> Alright, nano it is then. I'd rather learn without the GUI
[06:05] <TylerE> but I can't run opengl apps
[06:05] <Necrosan> How do I make /dev/audioctl be there?
[06:05] <sethk> sycron, you can use vi in terminal mode
[06:05] <eyequeue> mptmon, don't irc as root, don't anything as root
[06:05] <Sythen> Does NTFS support dump?
[06:05] <sethk> sycron, for that matter, you can use nano in terminal mode
[06:05] <Clinton__> How well does XGL/Compiz work without 3d hardware acceleration?
[06:06] <snoops> it doesn't Clinton__
[06:06] <garrett|mobile> Clinton__, crappy, I would assume. But you know what happens when you assume... har har har. :(
[06:06] <garrett|mobile> snoops, thanks. :P
[06:07] <Clinton__> I'm blessed with the one chip Linux doesn't have 3d support for.. SiS 650 :(
[06:07] <Sythen> I am trying to figure out /etc/fstab but the rude linux geeks in #linux on undernet told me to RTFM, and I cant figure the dump and pass parts
[06:07] <selfharm> anyone use CUPS? I am having no luck sharing printers
[06:07] <selfharm> with dapper
[06:07] <garrett|mobile> Sythen, was that question directed towards me?
[06:07] <snoops> Clinton__ heh, doubtful that xgl would support it either then.. and really, with an integrated card like that, xgl would be awfully slow
[06:07] <Sythen> garrett|mobile,  nope, just saying hi
[06:07] <eyequeue> Sythen, 0 and 2 unless you need them :)
[06:07] <garrett|mobile> Sythen, are you Clint?
[06:07] <garrett|mobile> Haha.
[06:08] <sethk> Sythen, I don't know about ntfs dump, but I'd be skeptical about it even if it is available.
[06:08] <foo> Hm, what package contains alsaconf? Can't seem to find it with apt-file update && apt-file search alsaconf. hmm
[06:08] <Clinton__> snoops: damn.. :(  I've seen it in action - looks awesome!  I want I want I want.. but I can't have...
[06:08] <WayCool> Hi guys
[06:08] <snoops> Clinton__ ya know, for $40-50 you could get a 6200 nvidia card, which would run it fine :)
[06:08] <garrett|mobile> Clinton__, me too. I'd love to have it. But I'm doing good to get dual-monitors working with the fglrx driver. Lmao.
[06:08] <allen> why isn't VLC in the synaptic?
[06:09] <sahasrara> is it possible to clone the LiveCDs?
[06:09] <eyequeue> !repos > allen
[06:09] <Clinton__> snoops: yup, if this wasn't a laptop
[06:09] <snoops> allen it is, it's either in multiverse or universe
[06:09] <garrett|mobile> allen, you can get VLC via Automatix, I believe.
[06:09] <snoops> ah right Clinton__ :/
[06:09] <eyequeue> !info vlc
[06:09] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player for all audio and video formats. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.4.debian-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 7620 kB, installed size 18808 kB
[06:09] <foo> Hm, what package contains alsaconf? Can't seem to find it with apt-file update && apt-file search alsaconf. hmm
[06:09] <sahasrara> instead of having to get the .iso and keep making LiveCDs off of that?
[06:09] <allen> I have to add another repository?
[06:10] <sycron> I can't believe how awesome this is
[06:10] <Psykus> hey, can anyone help me get wireless working? i've followed the ndiswrapper tutorial, and I think my problem is "Another driver loads and binds to the device", since ubuntu already shows a wireless device before I touch ndiswrapper, but it won't work. the link on the wiki to fix that doesn't go anywhere, gives an error page
[06:10] <snoops> allen it's just disabled.. if you want to go through synaptic package manager it's very easy.. you can also use a text editor to edit out comments for those repositories if you want
[06:10] <Psykus> referring to this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#head-c1d02586fd139d6e32f018b19392d255aa190a26
[06:10] <allen> snoops how do I do that?
[06:10] <gldtn> Would  modprobe <drivername> work to add a built in driver? or am I way off?
[06:11] <briguyd> Psykus, what chipset?
[06:11] <sycron> can you use the package manager in a terminal?
[06:11] <snoops> allen in synaptic if you go settings>repositories.. the dialog opened will let you scroll down and tick the repositories you want..make sure multiverse and universe is enabled
[06:11] <Sythen> /dev/sda3    /media/windows   ntfs    noauto       0        0
[06:11] <Sythen> Does that seem right?
[06:11] <Psykus> motorola something or another, I can't remember exactly. I know I got it working under ubuntu/linux at one point
[06:11] <DShepherd> sycron: yeah apt-get or aptitude. both work fine
[06:11] <allen> thanks
[06:11] <Psykus> i'd have to check
[06:11] <WayCool> I am new to Linux and am trying to install DSL on my old Pentium I system.I am new to Linux and am trying to install DSL on my old Pentium I system.  I've cleared the hard drive and want to ask if I need to
[06:11] <WayCool> create Dos partitions before starting the instalation from a CD or will the Linux installer create partitions and format the drive by
[06:11] <WayCool> itself?
[06:12] <sycron> DShepherd: Is there any way to list the available packages then?
[06:12] <evan_w00> whats a good RAR archiver for ubuntu?
[06:12] <garrett|mobile> Sythen, ubuntuguide.org has the settings you need for fstab.
[06:12] <Elephant> WayCool:  Most likely, the Linux installer will handle it
[06:12] <DShepherd> sycron: aptitude search nameofpackage  works fine
[06:13] <sahasrara> does anyone know if it's possible to clone the LiveCDs rather than burn them from the .iso? and is the .iso just closest to the original data?
[06:13] <verbose>  /j ##python
[06:13] <verbose> err, oops
[06:13] <Sythen> garrett|mobile, I dont think it does
[06:13] <Psykus> briguyd, "Chipset: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306"
[06:14] <DShepherd> sahasrara:  yeah,, you can..
[06:14] <briguyd> Psykus, you and me both, man
[06:14] <garrett|mobile> Sythen, from the guide: "/dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222"
[06:14] <evan_w00> can "Ark" archive .RAR files?
[06:14] <DShepherd> sahasrara: just right the the cd icon on the desktop and click 'Copy Cd'
[06:14] <Sythen> garrett|mobile, that isnt for fstab
[06:14] <sethk> gldtn, the driver is sk98lin
[06:14] <Sythen> that is mount
[06:14] <briguyd> Psykus, theres a lot of issues with linux and broadcom chipsets, or so i hear
[06:14] <sethk> gldtn, don't use the newer marvell 8xxx driver, it fails with 8053
[06:14] <briguyd> lemme look up something
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> evan_w00,  not sure if it can make them. :P never tried.
[06:14] <garrett|mobile> Sythen, doink. Sorry. :P
[06:14] <garrett|mobile> Hold.
[06:15] <evan_w00> Dr_Willis oh ok, then whats a good .RAR archiver for ubuntu?
[06:15] <poningru> Psykus: whats wrong?
[06:15] <poningru> Psykus: you need the firmware for that
[06:15] <eyequeue> !rar
[06:15] <Psykus> briguyd, I know I had it working with ndiswrapper at one point, only for this version of ubuntu, a non-working wireless device shows up before I do anything with ndiswrapper, and I think that's the problem
[06:15] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[06:15] <evan_w00> Dr_Willis i couldnt get linuxRAR to install >.<
[06:15] <poningru> !broadcom
[06:15] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:15] <DShepherd> sahasrara: i meant right-click
[06:15] <poningru> grr
[06:15] <sahasrara> DShepherd: i thought it was more complicated than that
[06:15] <poningru> Psykus: hold on dude
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> evan_w00,  ive used cedega and winrar :P
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> evan_w00,  but i normally use winrar to make zips :)
[06:15] <DShepherd> sahasrara: simple is as simple does :-)
[06:15] <evan_w00> Dr_Willis ohh ok. ill trade cedega.
[06:15] <eyequeue> evan_w00, using apt-get?
[06:15] <briguyd> Psykus, exact same here
[06:15] <garrett|mobile> Sythen,  http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_all_users_to_read_only
[06:15] <sahasrara> DShepherd: i thought that's why we have to use the .iso to make bootable cd's
[06:15] <sahasrara> oh
[06:15] <WayCool> elephant: I've tried and am not getting anywhere...  I get the error message: Disk Boot Failure, Insert System Disk & press Enter.
[06:16] <Amaranth> Did any of you just get a PM from a spammer?
[06:16] <gldtn> sethk: I was just about to ask if that was the one.. found that name while researching the ubuntu forums.. now how can I add that in? would <modprobe sk98lin> work?
[06:16] <cafuego> briguyd: *shrug* Mine's been fince since x-mas last year.
[06:16] <evan_w00> eyequeue i have no idea lol, im still getting used to Linux
[06:16] <briguyd> Psykus, i think you have to blacklist the broadcom driver that loads automatically
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> evan_w00,  i cant say that ive ever wanted to MAKE a .rar :) heh.
[06:16] <sethk> gldtn, grub not installed properly
[06:16] <evan_w00> eyequeue so im guessing im not ;)
[06:16] <briguyd> cafuego, ?
[06:16] <eyequeue> !info unrar
[06:16] <ubotu> unrar: Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:3.5.4-0.1 (dapper), package size 84 kB, installed size 216 kB
[06:16] <DShepherd> sahasrara: well you can make a copy of any cd that way
[06:16] <poningru> Psykus: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/dists/dapper-cafuego/bcm43xx/
[06:16] <garrett|mobile> Coffe was not a good choice at 11:30 at night. Sigh.
[06:16] <sethk> gldtn, if the module was built, yes
[06:16] <cafuego> briguyd: broadcom
[06:16] <eyequeue> !info rar
[06:16] <ubotu> rar: Archiver for .rar files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 3.30-2ubuntu2 (dapper), package size 236 kB, installed size 476 kB (Only available for i386)
[06:16] <cl187> hi
[06:16] <Psykus> briguyd, yeah, I figured, but the link on the wiki showing how to do that is dead
[06:16] <cl187> got question
[06:16] <Elephant> WC, that sounds like your system isn't booting from the installation CD
[06:16] <Psykus> poningru, thanks, will check it out
[06:16] <poningru> Psykus: use cafuegos firmware
[06:16] <briguyd> cafuego, i had trouble setting it up when i upgraded to dapper
[06:16] <DShepherd> cl187: me too
[06:16] <eyequeue> evan_w00, sudo apt-get install unrar
[06:16] <eyequeue> evan_w00, sudo apt-get install rar
[06:16] <cl187> is there a tool kinda like winblows where you can view wireless networks around?
[06:16] <poningru> Psykus: dont thank me thank cafuego over there
[06:16] <cheesy1> Does anyone know how to get vmware server sound working? I get failed to open sound device;/dev/dsp device or resource busy.
[06:16] <briguyd> Psykus, ah, lemme try to find a new one
[06:17] <WayCool> elephant: exactly, the question is why...
[06:17] <flasher> i've already installed msttcorefonts  but i still can't see any fonts in flash. please advise
[06:17] <garrett|mobile> cl187, I was wondering the same.
[06:17] <cafuego> briguyd: You need the latest firmware, then it works pretty much OK (and without ndiswrapper)
[06:17] <Elephant> one of two things, most likely
[06:17] <evan_w00> eyequeue oh ok thanks
[06:17] <sahasrara> DShepherd: ok, well the guy who downloaded the .iso for me acted like to clone a bootable cd you have to get an .iso from the livecd, and *then* make another bootable cd
[06:17] <eyequeue> evan_w00, whichever one you want
[06:17] <gldtn> sethk, well in this case it should be built by default right? or if not, how should I proceed?
[06:17] <poningru> !flash
[06:17] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:17] <Elephant> 1.  the hard drive comes before the CD on the boot list
[06:17] <briguyd> cafuego, mine works fine, Psykus's doesnt
[06:17] <sahasrara> ok another question - i just ran Nero MD5
[06:17] <Elephant> 2.   I'm getting sick trying to keep up. :(
[06:18] <sycron> Alright, I've got mp3 support now. Many thanks to everyone who pointed me in the right direction.
[06:18] <flasher> poningru: if that ! flash was for me, i'm afraid it does'nt help my "no fonts/text in flash" problem
[06:18] <eyequeue> poningru, 809 lusers
[06:18] <Dr_Willis> evan_w00,  ark has a 'rar' option right there in the make new archive.. items..
[06:18] <Elephant> sahasrara:  Shut EVERYTHING else off while you're burning
[06:18] <magneticubuntu> ANYONE USING MYTHTV HERE?
[06:18] <sahasrara> DShepherd: i can try that, thanks, first i need to figure out why the .iso failed the MD5 check
[06:18] <DShepherd> sahasrara: i know why it failed either.. you running ubuntu of kubuntu?
[06:18] <sahasrara> Elephant: ok
[06:18] <poningru> flasher: hmm
[06:18] <garrett|mobile> eyequeue, was that "lusers" on purpose? :P
[06:18] <DShepherd> sahasrara: i dont know *
[06:18] <poningru> flasher: what version of flash do you have?
[06:19] <eyequeue> garrett|mobile, i'm old school, yes :)
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> evan_w00,  yep.. made me a little .rar with ark. :)
[06:19] <evan_w00> Dr_Willis hmm, but Ark cannot seem to open my rars
[06:19] <evan_w00> Dr_Willis ahhhh
[06:19] <flasher> poningru: the one from the repository. i've just installed flash 3 days ago or so
[06:19] <Dr_Willis> evan_w00,  then pehaps ya dont have all the rar tools installed it needs
[06:19] <sahasrara> DShepherd: am i running what? i burned an .iso of kubuntu from someone else's edubuntu machine
[06:19] <briguyd> Psykus, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=188775
[06:19] <garrett|mobile> eyequeue, you just made me blow coffee out of my nose a little when you did that.
[06:19] <evan_w00> Dr_Willis probally :/
[06:19] <sahasrara> DShepherd: so i guess the machine used K3B
[06:19] <eyequeue> garrett|mobile, it's actually old-irc term
[06:19] <DShepherd> sahasrara: are you running kubuntu now?
[06:19] <allen> found it
[06:20] <poningru> sahasrara: dude 16x is not a good speed
[06:20] <WayCool> elephant: 1. is not the case - I've changed the booting order for CD to be first (but strangely, comp is still checking the floppy (a) drive for some reason.  2.  I've copied instalation image files from DSL site as recomended.  I assumed they were bootable.  If not what do I do?
[06:20] <sahasrara> so now i have 4 cd's which may be no good, according to the md5 checker (livecd *and* .iso's of both kubuntu and edubuntu)
[06:20] <allen> I think it is about time for a snack
[06:20] <sahasrara> DShepherd: no, i'm on my home win98 machine
[06:20] <poningru> 4x is the best speed for non corruption
[06:20] <eyequeue> !botsnack
[06:20] <Psykus> poningru, ok, installed, should it work now?
[06:20] <ubotu> Yum!
[06:20] <magneticubuntu> sahasrara, you using winblows to burn it or wtf?
[06:20] <poningru> Psykus: no you have to restart
[06:20] <flasher> poningru: any other questionss?
[06:20] <DShepherd> sahasrara: ok.. well just making a copy of the cd works just fine
[06:21] <Psykus> i noticed that ubuntu gave it "/dev/eth1", I figured it would be wlan0
[06:21] <DShepherd> magneticubuntu: you have to start somewhere :-)
[06:21] <jeff_> How can I find out what video card and drivers I am using????
[06:21] <poningru> Psykus: thats fine
[06:21] <sahasrara> poningru: that's what i tried to tell the guy, i tried setting it to 4x, but he said "oh that'll take forever" so he suggested 16x, i think i'll just download my own .iso's on my dialup then and/or order CD's
[06:21] <Psykus> ok, rebooting then
[06:21] <magneticubuntu> DShepherd, you knew to ubuntu?
[06:21] <sethk> jeff_, video card:  lspci
[06:21] <magneticubuntu> or linux in general?
[06:21] <Psykus> there goes my uptime :(
[06:21] <DShepherd> magneticubuntu: define new?
[06:21] <poningru> flasher: unfortunately ... no dude :(
[06:21] <allen> lets see now do I change my nick name in IRC hmmm
[06:21] <sethk> jeff_, drivers, you can hunt around in /sys, or if it is a module, see it with lsmod
[06:21] <magneticubuntu> DShepherd, erm
[06:21] <kieran> Hi all.
[06:21] <eyequeue> allen, /nick othername
[06:21] <flasher> poningru: ok. thankns anyway.
[06:21] <poningru> Psykus: hehe
[06:21] <sahasrara> DShepherd: ok, but i think my cd's are all corrupted if i go by the MD5 check, however - the 2 bootable cd's work! so they seem fine to me
[06:21] <magneticubuntu> hi kieran
[06:21] <dbcef> got it already eyequeue
[06:21] <poningru> flasher: flash in linux in general is crappy
[06:21] <magneticubuntu> sahasrara, that is amazing
[06:22] <poningru> sorry dude
[06:22] <dbcef> had to remember
[06:22] <DShepherd> sahasrara: kool
[06:22] <flasher> poningru: yes, but on an anonther comp, i was able to get text in flash
[06:22] <poningru> flasher: my only other suggestion is to look through the forums
[06:22] <flasher> poningru: yes,
[06:22] <sahasrara> magneticubuntu: yeah i'm *going* to use windows to burn cd's, these 4 cd's were burned on edubuntu though
[06:22] <flasher> will do
[06:22] <flasher> forums sure are slow now.
[06:22] <flasher> anyone agree?
[06:23] <magneticubuntu> Saharr: are you using cheap mediaz?
[06:23] <dbcef> Linux is freaking strange
[06:23] <dbcef> LOL
[06:23] <garrett|mobile> flasher, I do.
[06:23] <sahasrara> magneticubuntu: hm but the MD5 check doesn't list .iso's in the file selection when it asks you to point to the file to check, so i did "All Files" ... i wonder if it can check .iso's then
[06:23] <sahasrara> magneticubuntu: nope, i'm using Taiyo Yuden unbranded :)
[06:23] <flasher> what's wrong with the forums? are they down?
[06:23] <kieran> Howcome when i install eclipse with apt-get it installs 3.1 when 3.2 is in universe?
[06:24] <poningru> garrett|mobile: you are'nt mathew garrett are you?
[06:24] <WayCool> elephant: still there :) ?
[06:24] <eyequeue> sahasrara, an iso is just another file, md5sum works on them, it's just slow
[06:24] <VileChild> It's already been established to me, Ubuntu is a great distribution etc, but I'd like to begin developing (Python as a first languae
[06:24] <VileChild> Is it well suited? : o
[06:24] <sahasrara> i'm just gonna have to take a week to download .iso's, or order cd's if i want to be sure and do it myself i guess
[06:24] <VileChild> I'm also an active web developer ... so that's kind of important
[06:24] <sahasrara> eyequeue: ok, thanks
[06:24] <poningru> VileChild: yes
[06:24] <DShepherd> VileChild: its more than well suited
[06:24] <eyequeue> VileChild, many ubuntu devs prefer python, so yes :)
[06:24] <DShepherd> VileChild: imho
[06:24] <sethk> VileChild, very well suited
[06:24] <VileChild> lol ok that was easy ^^
[06:24] <garrett|mobile> poningru, No, but I have a brother named Matthew. Haha.
[06:24] <poningru> !buildessential > VileChild
[06:24] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about buildessential - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:25] <snoops> are you sure 3.2 is in universe kieran?
[06:25] <poningru> err
[06:25] <sethk> VileChild, remember, unix was invented as a programming environment
[06:25] <kieran> snoops: yes
[06:25] <sycron> when running sudo apt-get update I get these two errors: "E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:25] <sycron> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[06:25] <eyequeue> !info eclipse
[06:25] <ubotu> eclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1.2-1ubuntu6 (dapper), package size 100 kB, installed size 368 kB
[06:25] <VileChild> I can't exactly remember, it'll be my first real distribution
[06:25] <kieran> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=eclipse&searchon=names&subword=1&version=dapper&release=universe
[06:25] <eyequeue> kieran, 3.1.2
[06:25] <poningru> sycron: make sure you dont have synaptic or add/remove programs running
[06:25] <VileChild> I've tried/installed many many distributions but i never bothered to really learn anything
[06:25] <briguyd> sycron, are you running anything like automatix or synaptic running
[06:25] <kieran> yeah, sorry.
[06:25] <VileChild> barely anything in the command line
[06:26] <kieran> Getting ahead of myself.
[06:26] <briguyd> oops, redundacy
[06:26] <sycron> ah, okay, now the message makes sense. Thanks.
[06:26] <gary[ubuntu] > !ventrilo
[06:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ventrilo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:26] <sahasrara> thanks everyone
[06:26] <snoops> kieran you can download 3.2 from eclipse's site
[06:26] <poningru> sahasrara: you can order cds for free you know
[06:26] <snoops> and then just unpack it, and run the binary
[06:26] <poningru> !shipit > sahasrara
[06:26] <sahasrara> poningru: but it takes 6 to 10 weeks, and someone told me theirs took like 3 months (but they sent him a whole load of cd's)
[06:27] <sahasrara> *is impatient and wants linux now*
[06:27] <poningru> true...
[06:27] <poningru> :)
[06:27] <s|k> is there an open source windows decompressor that does tar.gz and .rar?
[06:27] <Frankenstein> linux should not be rushed, but cared for in a slow manner
[06:27] <kieran> snoops: Yeah thanks, I was getting ahead of myself, Misreading the package info. I blame late nights fueled by coffee
[06:27] <poningru> s|k: 7zip
[06:27] <VileChild> Oh, one of the main reaons I never stuck to a Linux distribution were problems with the web browsers/ fonts..
[06:27] <poningru> sahasrara: hehe check to see if you have a lug around where you live
[06:27] <sahasrara> Frankenstein: lol
[06:28] <s|k> poningru: works on windows?
[06:28] <sethk> VileChild, firefox is excellent.  I use it in windows as well as linux
[06:28] <mneptok> arr!
[06:28] <poningru> s|k: yep
[06:28] <poningru> VileChild: regarding the font there is a gui for font addition
[06:28] <snoops> the number of web browsers for linux I find is insane
[06:28] <sahasrara> poningru: i do... been reluctant to go since i had a wee conflict with one of the members years ago :)
[06:28] <NewUser> is it possible to partition a usb drive so that both partitions can be see by windows ?
[06:28] <VileChild> sethk: Yes I use Firefox as well, but everytime i'd create a web page it would look different on windows
[06:28] <mneptok> NewUser: sure. make 2 FAT32 partitions
[06:28] <sahasrara> but maybe he'll let go of old stuff for the sake of linux unity!
[06:28] <sethk> VileChild, with recent firefox I haven't seen that.  I'm not a windows expert, though
[06:28] <s|k> poningru: thanks!
[06:28] <Elephant> I was thinking ext2fs
[06:28] <DShepherd> VileChild: really? different in firefox on windows?
[06:28] <poningru> s|k: yep
[06:29] <Sythen> I am trying to mount a read only NTFS partition. Should I use umask, and if so, should I use umask=0002 or umask=0222
[06:29] <poningru> DShepherd: that is because ubuntu uses pango for font rendering
[06:29] <sethk> NewUser, it's impossible to make two partitions and have windows not see it.
[06:29] <VileChild> ya
[06:29] <NewUser> mneptok: is it  just cfdisk /dev/sda ? just that?
[06:29] <sahasrara> there was an installfest a couple months ago i think
[06:29] <snoops> I've got ie5, ie5.5, ie6, firefox, konqueror, opera, epiphany, and galeon to name a few all working perfectly on nix
[06:29] <poningru> VileChild: you can just use the official packages from mozilla.com in linux as well
[06:29] <Sythen> snoops, what are you running IE under?
[06:29] <VileChild> When I was using Zenwalk I had Links/Lynx/Firefox and Dillo : P
[06:29] <BeepAU> hey everyone, i installed cedega, but then decided i didn't want it, so uninstalled. now, i can't get the menu it installed out of my apps menu. how can i get rid of it? the menu editor won't remove it.
[06:29] <snoops> Sythen under wine
[06:29] <VileChild> hm i guess.. i'll have to get reading
[06:29] <Dr_Willis> Sythen,   http://wiki.linux-ntfs.org/doku.php?id=ntfs-en#can_i_mount_an_ntfs_volume     - more NTFS info thenyou can imagine!
[06:29] <sahasrara> so you guys really think that if the cd is not burned at absolute lowest speed you are risking corruption?
[06:30] <DShepherd> Sythen: type umask at the terminal..
[06:30] <NewUser> in windows as far as I can tell I need to downgrade to 98 or buy 3rd party software
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> Sythen,  in short use 0222 :P
[06:30] <poningru> garrett|mobile: http://flickr.com/photos/carlosliu/92092206/ is that your brother?
[06:30] <Sythen> Dr_Willis, that gave me 0022 should I use that?
[06:30] <sycron> !nicotine
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nicotine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:30] <Sythen> and what is it?
[06:30] <fr500> hello
[06:30] <sethk> NewUser, for a usb drive in windows?  No, not at all
[06:30] <DShepherd> VileChild: well that doesnt happen here..as long as you have the fonts installed it should be fine
[06:30] <poningru> sahasrara: well no... but it depends on the cd... and the burner quality, but why risk it?
[06:30] <fr500> how can i enable dvd playback for totem?
[06:30] <fr500> !dvd
[06:30] <ubotu> See http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html. Libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[06:31] <sethk> NewUser, you can't partition it in windows that way, but once it is partitioned, windows will see it.
[06:31] <poningru> woah
[06:31] <rupert> Im having trouble getting network manager to work. wpa_supplicant is apparently having trouble. Could someone look at my log file and help me get it working? http://pastebin.ca/133529
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> Sythen,  Hmm.. not sure what the diff is..  i think 0222 may be safer.
[06:31] <sethk> NewUser, so your third party software is linux
[06:31] <Sythen> Dr_Willis, okay, thanks
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> Sythen,  try one, and see what the files permissions are.. then try the other.
[06:31] <hAvAAck> Hi, I'm a huge newbie and I'm having trouble with my install of ubuntu, can anyone offer some advice? http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=237214
[06:31] <Sythen> Dr_Willis, okay
[06:31] <sahasrara> poningru: true