[01:29] <brainiac> pick, dumm question: have you burned the cd?
[01:29] <pick> yes
[01:29] <brainiac> hm..
[01:29] <pick> yep its a live cd
[01:29] <brainiac> what happens when booting from cd?
[01:29] <Jordan_U> pick, What happens when you click install?
[01:29] <pick> it works
[01:29] <troopperi_> towlieba: ati is harder install than nvidia.....thats why im using nvidia...sorry that i cant help more
[01:29] <pick> it installs
[01:29] <brainiac> pick, gratz
[01:30] <Jordan_U> pick, I thought you sad that it didn't
[01:30] <Jordan_U> ?
[01:30] <pick> it dident
[01:30] <Deviad> Hello, pls. I have to load a keymap of my own for the console on boot. Can anyone pls tell me how to do it?
[01:30] <pick> i mean this
[01:30] <thesystem> halloa
[01:30] <pick> i install ubuntu on my computer but its just a file
[01:31] <Jordan_U> pick, What do you mean just a file?
[01:31] <brainiac> pick, just make sure that while installing you don't accidentaly delete you XP partition
[01:31] <thesystem> someone knows the error: "configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***"
[01:31] <brainiac> pick, that would be no good for your XP
[01:31] <pick> ok
[01:31] <Jordan_U> thesystem, When do you get that error?
[01:31] <pick> confuzin goin to start again
[01:31] <pick> i be back
[01:31] <thesystem> i get the error by compiling a programm
[01:31] <variant> thesystem: install glib
[01:31] <Judg3_Dr34D> thesystem: maybe you should install glib?
[01:31] <thesystem> i doesn't work :(
[01:31] <variant> thesystem: apt-cache search glib
[01:32] <Jordan_U> thesystem, What program?
[01:32] <pick> everyone thanks for givin me the help everyone
[01:32] <pick> :)
[01:32] <thesystem> one moment
[01:32] <brainiac> pick, np
[01:32] <thesystem> i downloaded the newest version: glib-2.12.9
[01:32] <thesystem> but i always get a error, moment
[01:33] <Jordan_U> thesystem, What are you trying to do?
[01:33] <variant> thesystem: did you install glib with apt-get or what?
[01:33] <variant> thesystem: you should already have glib
[01:34] <Jordan_U> thesystem, What are you trying to do?
[01:34] <thesystem> yes i know but the glib doesnt work i alway get the error: "configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***"
[01:34] <thesystem> i want to install a player called: xmms-1.2.10
[01:35] <Jordan_U> thesystem, xmms is in the repositories
[01:35] <variant> thesystem: type sudo apt-get install xmms
[01:35] <Jordan_U> thesystem, Why are you compiling it from source?
[01:35] <daan> thesystem: or better sudo apt-get install audacious
[01:35] <theneb_> I'm trying to install mysql-server, however it can't seem to configure it. Just failing saying it can't configure
[01:35] <sk> hi all,
[01:35] <sk> I'm using Dapper as a Mail-Server with amavis-new.
[01:35] <sk> There is a known security issue for the package "file" at www.amavis.org/security.
[01:35] <sk> The solution is to update the file utility at least to Version 4.21.
[01:35] <sk> In Dapper doesn't exist any update for this package (dapper-security dapper-updates).
[01:35] <sk> Does anybody know where if there is another repository for security updates?
[01:35] <theneb_> Package mysql-server-5.0 which provides mysql-server is not configured yet
[01:36] <Jordan_U> sk Are you sure that the fix hasn't been backported?
[01:36] <thesystem> thx, i will try
[01:37] <erUSUL> sk: there is no other official repos. you should file a bug report in launchpad
[01:37] <sk> I didn't find it
[01:37] <erUSUL> !bugs | sk
[01:37] <ubotu> sk: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[01:37] <sk> I searched already the backport
[01:37] <Jordan_U> thesystem, Always check the repositories firs, you should almost never need to install from source
[01:37] <Jordan_U> *first
[01:37] <thesystem> good to know :) i'm a newbie
[01:38] <gnomefreak> sk: if it hasnt been updated yet it should be for next point release for dapper
[01:38] <Jordan_U> sk If it was backported then you wouldn't get a new version, just a patch to the old version
[01:38] <thesystem> if i type: sudo apt-get install xmms , i get the error: "E: Konnte Lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock nicht bekommen - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)"
[01:38] <Cromag_> thesystem: you might have synaptics open.
[01:39] <sk> Jordan_U, What do you mean with a patch? Compile from source?
[01:39] <variant> de | thesystem
[01:39] <variant> !de | thesystem
[01:39] <ubotu> thesystem: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:39] <daan> thesystem: do you have the update manager running?
[01:40] <Judg3_Dr34D> lol my german aren't good these days :D
[01:40] <Jordan_U> sk No, I mean that Ubuntu tries not to upgrade to completely new versions of a package between upgrades, so they would have patched, so just because you have the old version of the program doesn't mean you have the vulnerability
[01:40] <Xblund> Hi, using syslog-ng file statement under destination, what is the way to use 'the hostname' instead of its numeric IP, using $HOST?
[01:40] <the_consul> When I try to play any type of video (avi, mpg, dvd) in totem-xine the audio works but I get a dark blue screen....Most stuff works in mplayer and vlc, but I prefer the totem interface...anyone have any ideas?
[01:40] <thesystem> :D
[01:41] <daan> the_consul: i guess you don't have all xine libs installed
[01:41] <thesystem> thx a lot for helping me, i will get help in ubuntu-de, thx :)
[01:41] <variant> thesystem: are you using beryl?
[01:41] <Jordan_U> the_consul, Or go back to totem-gstreamer :)
[01:41] <variant> thesystem: or desktop effects
[01:41] <variant> the_consul: are you using beryl, or desktop effects?
[01:41] <Judg3_Dr34D> desktop effects = Compiz ???
[01:42] <variant> Judg3_Dr34D: yes
[01:42] <the_consul> variant: desktop effects, but this problem works even if its disabled
[01:42] <sk> Jordan_U, I know it is already the first release.
[01:42] <Judg3_Dr34D> variant: thanks :)
[01:42] <thesystem> no only desktop effects
[01:42] <Jordan_U>  sk I am not sure what you mean
[01:43] <the_consul> daan: I run it from teh command line and I don't see any errors about missing libararies...is there a good way to check if I'm missing some?
[01:43] <variant> thesystem: sorry, ment to ask the_consul
[01:43] <Judg3_Dr34D> variant: in order to install compiz fusion should I first uninstall compiz?
[01:43] <Jordan_U> sk Are you sure that the package you have actually does have this vulnerability?
[01:43] <thesystem> no problem
[01:43] <daan> the_consul: wait a sec
[01:43] <the_consul> Jordan-U: xine works on my laptop and seems to give a better picture quality than gstreamer, but yeah thats an option
[01:43] <variant> Judg3_Dr34D: don't bother with compiz fusion just yet, and compiz fusion is part of compiz (or will be) it is still in a state of flux.
[01:44] <sk> Jordan_U, the actual Version is 4.16-0ubuntu3.2. I think that "-0" is the patch. So the package wasn't updated in dapper
[01:44] <variant> Jordan_U: run gstreamer-properties and change the video output plugin
[01:44] <Jordan_U> the_consul, There is no reason that you would get better picture quality from using a different back end
[01:44] <ilreds> hi to all
[01:44] <Judg3_Dr34D> variant: I know it's just that I can't wait :D
[01:44] <variant> Jordan_U: change it to "X window system (no xv)"
[01:44] <Jordan_U> variant, I think you mean the_consul
[01:44] <variant> Jordan_U: eheh
[01:45] <Pricey> sk, -0 means there is no debian version
[01:45] <variant> Jordan_U: probably :)
[01:45] <daan> the_consul: Try this sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras libxine-extracodecs w32codecs
[01:45] <variant> the_consul: before doing what daan suggests just change the output plugin as i told you
[01:45] <Smotang> hey what is the python channel?
[01:45] <the_consul> variant: I've run that and changed vid to x noxv and the test gives me the bright colors, but xine still doesn't work
[01:45] <Jordan_U> variant, That won't work for totem-xine ( what he is using )
[01:45] <Smotang> I tried python but it did not work
[01:46] <SlimeyPete>  ##python ?
[01:46] <crdlb> Smotang, #python but it's +r
[01:46] <SlimeyPete> or #python
[01:46] <crdlb> so you need to register
[01:46] <variant> the_consul: ok, sorry i thought you were using gstreamer (you should be)
[01:46] <variant> Jordan_U: ok
[01:46] <ilreds> i've got a problem about my processor, an amd athlon64 3200+: the cpu freq applet in gnome show me a full freq in an on-demand way, but i know my procesor can operate at half freq
[01:46] <daan> variant: he shouldn't xine works just fine
[01:46] <ilreds> where can i see to ferify if the applet works wrong?
[01:47] <variant> daan: whatever works for sure, but gstreamer is the one to use where possible and increasingly so
[01:47] <Smotang> Ah got in thanks
[01:47] <ilreds> using centos i see the correct freq
[01:47] <the_consul> daan: that's already the newest version
[01:47] <SlimeyPete> ilreds: cat /proc/cpu
[01:48] <SlimeyPete> ilreds: ory... /proc/cpuinfo
[01:48] <daan> the_consul: then I don't know, why do you want to use xine over gstreamer?
[01:48] <the_consul> Jordan_U: is there a way to change the vid properties (as suggested by variant) for the xine engine.? I believe I had to make similar changes for vlc and mplayer to get those to show video as well...I tackled this quite a while back initially and am revisiting the problem now
[01:49] <Smotang> what is the file you add data to that is mouse?
[01:49] <ilreds> SlimeyPete: cpu MHz         : 2000.000
[01:49] <user1_> how do i add website to the very top of google search?
[01:50] <Jordan_U> the_consul, I am sure there is, but AFIK gstreamer is simply a better architecture and I think that your perception of better video quality is probably a placebo
[01:50] <berent> daan: not much improvement
[01:50] <the_consul> daan: I installed gstreamer initially and it didn't play certain things, vlc doesn't play audio for me on some things, and mplayer won't resize -- on my laptop totem-xine works perfectly for most everything...I may switch to gstreamer if it can't be resolved any other way
[01:50] <ilreds> SlimeyPete: with other distribution i have 1000.000 in idle
[01:50] <ilreds> SlimeyPete: now always 2000.000
[01:51] <lgp_> hi
[01:51] <SlimeyPete> ilreds: sounds like cool-n-quiet isn't working, then. I've never made it work on my AMD either.
[01:51] <Jordan_U> ilreds, Have you tried powernowd instead of ondemand ?
[01:51] <Jordan_U> SlimeyPete, Same question to you.
[01:51] <daan> the_consul: are you sure you installed all gstreamer plugins (you say it didn't play certain things before)
[01:51] <SlimeyPete> I don't think I've tried it, no
[01:51] <the_consul> Jordan_U: I'll give gstreamer a shot...Like I said its been awhile since I played around with it so I don't remember my exact reasoning for disliking it, but I'll give it a shot again
[01:52] <berent> daan : anyways tell me is there if there is any command to check what's maximum memory system can take.
[01:52] <lgp_> have anyone installed the Palace-client linpal?
[01:52] <variant> the_consul: totem-gstreamer and all the gstreamer codecs will play just about anything, and if you select the correct ouptput mode with gstreamer-properties (X Window System (no Xv)) like I suggest then it will work perfectly with compiz/beryl/desktop effects
[01:52] <ilreds> SlimeyPete: ???? i use powernowd, with centos i use powernowd...i think is a config problem
[01:52] <the_consul> daan: yeah, I installed them with automatix initially
[01:52] <daan> the_consul: automatix is evil
[01:53] <the_consul> variant: k, I'll give it shot, thanks for the help all
[01:53] <the_consul> daan: maybe, but its easy
[01:53] <variant> berent: you need to look up your motherboard specifications, it will tell you (on google)
[01:53] <daan> the_consul: this is much better http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Multimedia_Codecs
[01:53] <variant> the_consul: seriously avoid automatix, it's not easy, it's _stupid_
[01:53] <daan> variant: agreed
[01:53] <Jordan_U> !automatix | the_consul
[01:53] <ubotu> the_consul: Automatix2 is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use. Problems caused by Automatix are often hard to track and solve, and it might sometimes be easier to !install a fresh copy of Ubuntu. See also !WorksForMe
[01:53] <revilodraw> automatix is what god would use if here existed
[01:54] <misha> hi
[01:54] <revilodraw> hi misha
[01:54] <misha> i'm new in freenet
[01:54] <Jordan_U> revilodraw, And he were a masochist
[01:54] <misha> i want to connect
[01:54] <revilodraw> jordan_u... hehe another disbeliever
[01:54] <misha> how can i do it?
[01:55] <berent> variant : why google why not do something with lshw and so
[01:55] <Jordan_U> !automatix > revilodraw
[01:55] <the_consul> For what its worth, I used it when I first moved to linux/ubuntu and haven't used it since then as I've become more comfortable with the command line and generally doing things in a linux environment...
[01:56] <revilodraw> no jordan_u... revilodraw > automatix
[01:56] <variant> berent: as far as i am aware there is no way to reliably see what capacity of ram the mother board supports
[01:56] <daan> berent: what did you mean with your last question
[01:57] <daan> berent: ah i see just google your motherboard
[01:57] <berent> daan : why not a command .
[01:57] <revilodraw> how do i know if my graphics card is working as well as it should?
[01:57] <daan> berent: maybe because there isn't any?
[01:58] <kslat3r> revilodraw try glxinfo | grep direct
[01:58] <variant> revilodraw: if you can play games and get the fps and graphical qualityt hat you would expect then it's working as well as it can
[01:58] <Jordan_U> revilodraw, I can't tell if you are joking so just check the message from ubotu
[01:59] <revilodraw> jordan_u: i wasnt joking about automatix, but if u hate it then thats k with me... kslat and variant: thanks
[01:59] <kslat3r> anyone know of a better IRC client that bitchx and xchat?
[01:59] <revilodraw> kslat3r: direct rendering; no....is this bad?
[02:00] <daan> revilodraw: Automatix dumbs things down that shouldn't
[02:00] <kslat3r> that wud suggest u dont have graphics drivers for your card installed
[02:00] <scoldog_> Anyone up to speed about Amarok/Exaile that I can bounce a few questions off?
[02:00] <kslat3r> what card do u have?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> revilodraw: what graphics card do you have?
[02:00] <revilodraw> ok i have an ati x1400 radeon card so ill have fun trying to get them to worlk
[02:01] <revilodraw> i was on here about an hour ago and ppl r being a lot more helpful now than they were before
[02:01] <the_consul> I installed gstreamer...for this particular wmv file (it's the only format I could find it in, I'm all ears if there's a way to convert it w/o loss of quality) I get video but no sound ....sound worked in xine and in mplayer as well....any suggestions on where to look?
[02:01] <LucianIndy> is ati difficult to obtain functionality on ubuntu?
[02:01] <revilodraw> lucianindy; apparently
[02:01] <stefg> revilodraw: this lies in the nature of irc
[02:01] <LucianIndy> glad i didn't install ubuntu on my g/f's pc
[02:02] <kslat3r> LucianIndy: no not really its just a matter of following a tutorial
[02:02] <gnomefreak> revilodraw: not all ati drivers have direct rendering. did you try to install hte right drivers with restricted-manager?
[02:02] <berent> daan : does lshw provide me my motherboard make
[02:02] <daan> berent: yes
[02:02] <berent> daan : its 82801AA
[02:02] <berent> daan : what's max memory i can use
[02:03] <revilodraw> gnomefreak: i havent yet, this is the first time i have gotten into feisty due to an annoying xorg problem... is the restricted manager easy?
[02:03] <kslat3r> revilodraw: yes
[02:03] <daan> berent: no that's a io controller hub
[02:03] <gnomefreak> revilodraw: yes but give me a minute first.
[02:03] <daan> berent: try sudo lshw | less
[02:03] <returncode> How can I launch gconf from terminal
[02:04] <returncode> I tried GCOnf but not work
[02:04] <moyer> anyone know how can i view what proccess my system is booting at startup?
[02:04] <CPF_> sudo gconf-tool
[02:04] <revilodraw> kslat3r: the restricted drivers manager is saying that my "ati accelerated graphics driver" is "in use"?
[02:04] <CPF_> sudo gconftool
[02:04] <CPF_> **
[02:04] <moyer> sudo gconf-editor
[02:04] <returncode> thx CPF
[02:04] <revilodraw> gnomefreak: k cool just let me know when u r ready
[02:04] <returncode> and moyer
[02:04] <returncode> I try
[02:04] <shadowhywind> i have a odd problem here, Windows can ping the host name of my one of my ubuntu boxs (name:A) but my other ubuntu box (name:b) can't ping it by its host name, it comes up with unkown host
[02:04] <kslat3r> revilodraw: 1 sec
[02:04] <gnomefreak> revilodraw: you need the fglrx driver
[02:05] <stefg> moyer: just look at dmesg. you can also boot without the 'quiet splash' parameters to have a verbose boot process
[02:05] <kslat3r> revilodraw: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=482773&highlight=howto+ati+x1400
[02:06] <returncode> shadowhywind* probably win machine have firewall?
[02:06] <kslat3r> revilodraw: igonre compiz-fusion stuff if u want
[02:06] <loes> ik heb problemen met  skype installeren kan iemand mij helpen
[02:06] <daan> !ubuntu-nl
[02:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubuntu-nl - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:06] <stefg> !nl | loes
[02:06] <ubotu> loes: Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[02:06] <berent> daan : where is that in lshw?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> kslat3r: that would be a great guide if they had what he was looking for ;)
[02:07] <loes> oke ga meteen kijken
[02:07] <daan> berent: somewhere
[02:07] <kslat3r> its an fglrx driver guide aint it?
[02:07] <shadowhywind> returncode windows does have a firewall on, but why can it see ubuntu but one unbutu can't see the other ubuntu
[02:07] <gnomefreak> kslat3r: compiz guide
[02:07] <berent> daan: not there katmai is the make of cpu
[02:07] <kslat3r> my bad
[02:07] <moyer> stefg : thanks i appreciate it. how do i use that quiet splash option?
[02:08] <gnomefreak> !ati | revilodraw  (please install the fglrx drivers
[02:08] <ubotu> revilodraw  (please install the fglrx drivers: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:08] <returncode> shadowhywind* because windows drop icmp packet (ping)
[02:08] <daan> berent: did you run it with sudo?
[02:08] <returncode> disable firewall
[02:08] <berent> daan :  i810-W83627HF . sudo gives more things.
[02:08] <returncode> or enable ICMP
[02:08] <returncode> on windows
[02:08] <returncode> and try
[02:08] <revilodraw> gnomefreak: ok.. thank you very much
[02:09] <stefg> moyer: catch the grub menu at boot, press 'e' on the standard entry. This enables you to edit the boot command line. Just delete the words quiet splash from that line, then press 'b' to boot with that
[02:09] <gnomefreak> revilodraw: yw
[02:09] <moyer> stefg, thanks for your help i appreciate it
[02:09] <nomad> hey
[02:09] <nomad> can anyone help me with gimp?
[02:10] <moyer> im gonna try it now
[02:10] <daan> berent: seems like a rare motherboard can't find too many info on it, do you have the manual that come with it
[02:10] <berent> daan : no
[02:11] <daan> berent: can't help you then I guess
[02:11] <nomad> i want to know how to zoom in an image that the ruler shows intimately how much pixel the image has
[02:11] <JimQode> nomad, i don't quite get your question.
[02:11] <daan> berent: maybe you can borrow some ram from someone and try it
[02:12] <kslat3r> does anyone know of a better IRC client than bitchx and xchat??
[02:12] <berent> daan : is it not itching to know we can't find it
[02:12] <berent> daan : is it not itching to know we can't find it using a command
[02:12] <pppoe_dude> maybe i can sleep on the beach today
[02:12] <_6StringKng_> use konversation
[02:12] <nomad> Jimbob, http://docs.gimp.org/images/using/imagewindow-description.png number 4 ... i need to know how i can zoom into an image that number 4, the ruler, shows exactly how much pixel the image has
[02:12] <daan> kslat3r: konversation
[02:12] <pppoe_dude> oops wrong chan
[02:12] <_6StringKng_> using it now, rocks
[02:12] <hype_> hi there
[02:12] <kslat3r> k cheers
[02:13] <nomad> Jimbob, sorry bad english, i know *g
[02:13] <daan> berent: guess so but i can't help it :)
[02:13] <hype_> anyone usiong mocp music player?
[02:13] <_6StringKng_> nope, amarok
[02:13] <returncode> how can I view mycomputer on the desktop
[02:13] <returncode> there is some option in gconf
[02:13] <scoldog_> Anyone know a music player that can be controlled by PDA and synch with an iPod?
[02:13] <JimQode> nomad, you want to learn the image's width in pixels?
[02:14] <Judg3_Dr34D> scoldog_:i think rhythmbox ?
[02:14] <JimQode> nomad, or do you want to see the individual pixels on the image?
[02:14] <UseLess_> sTarLight
[02:14] <JimQode> !automatix > JimQode
[02:14] <daan> returncode: you can make a launcher to: nautilus computer:///
[02:14] <kajtek> Is there any tool to fast convert Codepages in large amount of files by one command? For example from ISO-8859-1 to UTF-8? And is it in official repos?
[02:15] <stefg> !icons | returncode
[02:15] <ubotu> returncode: Want to see volume/trash icons on the desktop? Go to /apps/nautilus/desktop in gconf-editor (Gnome) or go to http://kudos.berlios.de/kf/kisimlar/tipsntrix.html#showtrash (KDE)
[02:15] <returncode> daan* I want the icon myComputer on the desktop
[02:15] <scoldog_> Judg3_Dr34D, I would love to get Exaile working via a PDA, but I don't know if it is possible.  I know Amarok can be scripted, and that Exaile uses the Amarok engine.  I'll have a gander at Rythmbox right now
[02:15] <stefg> returncode: see above
[02:16] <nomad> JimQode, i want to learn how i can effect that the ruler shows me the right number of pixels. if the image is 400x658 i want that the rulers show me a allocation from 400 and 658
[02:16] <kslat3r> thanks guys konversation is basically mIRC ;)
[02:16] <kajtek> Is there any tool to fast convert Codepages in large amount of files by one command? For example from ISO-8859-1 to UTF-8? And is it in official repos?
[02:17] <stefg> kajtek: sed ? :-)
[02:17] <nomad> Jimbob, i work with "background-position" in a css file and it requiers accurate pixel numbers
[02:17] <Ajit> how can i install software without internet connection in ubuntu,I am new to linux just installed ubuntu 7.04, suppose I have .deb file at my desktop then what is procedure to install.
[02:17] <JimQode> nomad, you can't it will always snap to multiples of 50. click and drag the ruler to make a guide though. you can see the guides coordinates on the left bottom corner.
[02:18] <kajtek> stefg, can you give me a little howto do this? please? ;)
[02:18] <JimQode> Ajit, double click it
[02:18] <nomad> JimQode, i even saw i wrote another name *g okay, thanks for your help
[02:19] <JimQode> nomad, no problem. have fun ;)
[02:19] <roachmmflhyr_> anyone recommend a good UBUNTU book??
[02:19] <stefg> kajtek: this is a classical job for a bash script, invoking sed with clever parameters. http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/unix/sed.html
[02:19] <Ajit> JimQode: It means this is just like I installed .exe file in windows? i.e. next...accept...next..installed.
[02:19] <JimQode> Ajit, One less step actually you just press OK :)
[02:20] <daan> roachmmflhyr_: no, but you can learn most of the things on the internet
[02:20] <B-777> I am trying to add some things to a panel but I get the following error message: The applet encountered a problem while loading: do you want to delete it from the configuration? Tried rebooting the desktop and the PC itself but no success, still comes up with the same error message. Should I try to reinstall gnome?
[02:20] <stefg> kajtek: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ maybe a prerequisite to understand
[02:20] <roachmmflhyr_> daan: yeah thats what I usually do....just would like to dig deeper
[02:20] <Ajit> JimQode: you mean less step is Accept (due to open source)
[02:21] <kajtek> stefg, okay. thanks! that should be enough :]
[02:21] <daan> roachmmflhyr_: I don't think a book will help you dig deeper
[02:21] <JimQode> Ajit, yep, just a dialog with an ok/cancel button that is all. no wizard pages.
[02:21] <Jack_Sparrow> If I copy my home to another Ububntu installation will it work and what all will I he copying, just my theme and settings or everything I have done since the livecd installed the os?
[02:21] <daan> roachmmflhyr_: but I guess you could just look around at amazon
[02:21] <peacho> Hey, does anyone know of a site that that has good fonts for Linux that look like Windows ones?
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> mscorefonts comes to mind
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> in the repos
[02:22] <nomad> JimQode, hm just a last question... if i want to create guides, how i can do it? if i drag it, i can't see the coordinates because the mouse is no more in the image
[02:22] <roachmmflhyr_> daan: yeah they have a few i was just wondering if there was anything special about any
[02:22] <daan> peacho: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[02:22] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks
[02:22] <peacho> Okay.
[02:22] <daan> roachmmflhyr_: haven't read any so can't say :)
[02:23] <banlieue> roachmmflhyr_: looking for a good book on ubuntu?
[02:23] <_6StringKng_> yeah its called google
[02:23] <roachmmflhyr_> banlieue: yeah
[02:23] <banlieue> _6StringKng_: it's*
[02:23] <banlieue> roachmmflhyr_: don't bother.. i've read a few of them, they're all fairly basic and will leave you far from satisfied
[02:23] <roachmmflhyr_> banlieue: i pretty much know all the basics i just wanted to get more advanced
[02:23] <_6StringKng_> gee, it's, big mistake
[02:23] <honke> Hi everyone good morning
[02:24] <kslat3r> hello :)
[02:24] <daan> roachmmflhyr_: more advanced is using google not a book
[02:24] <honke> I have a question and I want to know if this is possible.
[02:24] <banlieue> roachmmflhyr_: you're better off reading websites and/or spending time in this channel (and of course messing about with everything you can to see what happens)
[02:24] <roachmmflhyr_> banlieue: hmm thats sad
[02:24] <roachmmflhyr_> banlieue: haha yeah thats what ive been doing for about a year with linux distros
[02:24] <daan> roachmmflhyr_: what do you want to know more about?
[02:24] <roachmmflhyr_> banlieue: i really like this one
[02:24] <banlieue> if you do come by a good book on ubuntu let me know, but i've yet to see one for ubuntu that's good
[02:25] <honke> I have an IBM M-pro with dual 1.7 xeons, 4 double gigabit ethernet cards and an 800GB disk array on SCSI.  I just put feisty server with LAMP and DNS on it
[02:25] <banlieue> which probably makes sense as well
[02:25] <roachmmflhyr_> banlieue: certainly
[02:25] <banlieue> you might want to look for books on linux, rather than ubuntu specifically
[02:25] <NiA> nmn
[02:25] <daan> banlieue: agreed
[02:25] <roachmmflhyr_> banlieue: right
[02:25] <Matthai> hi people, something to read: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto8 (just finished it few minutes ago)
[02:25] <roachmmflhyr_> banlieue: i have a couple already
[02:25] <honke> I want this machine to do all this: DNS, firewall, fileserver, Counterstrike server, SMB... is it possible?
[02:25] <daan> roachmmflhyr_: maybe try install gentoo some day :)
[02:25] <banlieue> heh
[02:26] <roachmmflhyr_> banlieue: i played with the live cd some
[02:26] <banlieue> the first big test on gentoo is seeing if you're even able to install it properly
[02:26] <banlieue> lovely OS, though
[02:26] <kslat3r> honke: dont think u can run counter-strike server in ubuntu ?
[02:26] <honke> balieue: I just followed the instructions word for word and it worked lol
[02:26] <roachmmflhyr_> banlieue: but i kinda just got back into linux now that im settling down over hear in japan
[02:26] <honke> thank you kslater
[02:26] <banlieue> honke: really? lol.. i must've been unlucky then, or I can't read
[02:26] <JimQode> honke, banlieue, counter server is available for linux
[02:27] <banlieue> JimQode: i didn't say anything :o
[02:27] <caseofthemondays> When i uplugged my usb drive it left the icon on my desktop, now when i plug it back in I get a second icon for the same drive.  how can i force the old icon to go away?
[02:27] <Ajit> JimQode: and what about compressed package like zip, rar package installation (i will have to double click on it or first i will have to uncompress this and then install)
[02:27] <stefg> honke: firewall must be a different machine. depending on how much power is left by the CS server you might consider a virtual machine (vmware/xen) to be the firewall
[02:27] <banlieue> caseofthemondays: did you right click the icon and click Eject?
[02:27] <caseofthemondays> banlieue:  yep
[02:27] <roachmmflhyr_> daan: i forget which gentoo i have.....haha i have so many distro cds piling up.....
[02:27] <caseofthemondays> makes the new one disapear but the old one stays there
[02:28] <honke> I should ask a more direct question.... Where can I go to learn about implementing a firewall in this box? Is the firewall something I should learn before I try to learn about turning the box into a router?
[02:28] <honke> It has 5 ethernet ports
[02:28] <banlieue> brb
[02:28] <honke> I want it to be the hub to my home network, and also server files.
[02:28] <JimQode> Ajit, Linux software does not usually come in zip or rar packages
[02:28] <honke> (64 bit 1Gbit dual cards, so good and fast!)
[02:29] <gerro> wow icewm is weird, anyone use it on daily basis? Need to know the basics about how to customize it
[02:29] <caseofthemondays> honke:  thats about 1000x more work than just going and paying 40$ for a router and 20$ for a giga hub
[02:29] <caseofthemondays> switch i should say
[02:29] <Judg3_Dr34D> honke: maybe this will help about CS server http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76483
[02:29] <honke> caseofthemondays: I want to do it through linux because I will get higher throughput and I will learn a great deal about networking
[02:30] <honke> besides I have fiber equipment I can try too
[02:30] <gerro> honke: and its free and runs on any networking device :)
[02:30] <caseofthemondays> honke:  you arent going to get higher throughput ... but it will be a fun experience
[02:30] <stefg> honke: definitely. So i'd run xen, and some specialized firewall distro (or even OpenBSD)in it as the firewall to the outside world. won't require too much resources.
[02:30] <Ajit> JimQode: it comes in .deb package always?
[02:30] <gerro> caseofthemondays: don't know about that higher throughput stuff but usually do get performance boost
[02:30] <honke> but but but all the computers in this room have PCI-X or 64bit PCI gig cards, it should be damn fast
[02:30] <EHLOHIM> Hello
[02:30] <EHLOHIM> how can i do a screen shot with ubuntu?
[02:31] <Judg3_Dr34D> Print Screen
[02:31] <banlieue> EHLOHIM: press the prntscrn button
[02:31] <EHLOHIM> heuu ok
[02:31] <honke> thank you very much for the step in the right direction
[02:31] <EHLOHIM> la banlieue c dangereux
[02:31] <EHLOHIM> thank you
[02:31] <JimQode> Ajit, there are also so called source packages that usually have .tar.gz or .tar.bz2 extention. But average user never needs to use them.
[02:31] <caseofthemondays> this d#$m second automount icon is makin me crazy
[02:31] <gerro> ehlohim: also alt prntscrn to do just one window, and if your ever on a distro that doesn't have print screen options use imagemagick with a script linked to the print key
[02:31] <EHLOHIM> oh ok
[02:31] <EHLOHIM> thank you i will just use printscreen thank you
[02:31] <Myrtti> gerro: scrot ;-)
[02:32] <banlieue> caseofthemondays: the easiest fix would be just rebooting :P
[02:32] <revilodraw> how do i check if ipv6 in disbled?
[02:32] <banlieue> you should also be able to just sudo rmdir it in a terminal
[02:32] <gerro> Myrtti: yo sup?
[02:32] <caseofthemondays> banlieue:  dont you wish .. but that does nothing as well .. icon is still there when i reboot
[02:32] <banlieue> :o
[02:32] <banlieue> did you try sudo rmdir'ing it?
[02:32] <caseofthemondays> yep
[02:32] <banlieue> and, nothing? :/
[02:32] <rolfen> how do i make ubuntu automatically mount new partitions drives so that i dont have to right click on their icon and click mount
[02:32] <caseofthemondays> haha .. the infernal thing is satanspawn or something .. it wont die
[02:33] <banlieue> lol
[02:33] <JimQode> rolfen, you have to write it in /etc/fstab
[02:33] <gerro> caseofthemondays: if it is a device it won't go away unless you edit it to not be shown
[02:33] <honke> For a third question... Should I try to make my box be the router before learning about firewalls?
[02:33] <Myrtti> gerro: scrot is also nice for taking screenshots
[02:33] <kslat3r> honke: look for information on iptables
[02:33] <caseofthemondays> gerro:  its a usb automount device ... but the last unplug depricated its icon on the screen and it wont go away .. repluging just adds a new icon
[02:33] <gerro> Myrtti: does it do the same task with less processing?
[02:33] <honke> ah, thats what the guys at OSDL told me too
[02:34] <JimQode> honke, you can play with packet filtering on your box only. it does not need to a router. But then only your computer will be firewalled.
[02:34] <rolfen> JimQode: what do I write in /etc/fstab ?
[02:34] <revilodraw> how do i check if ipv6 in disbled?
[02:34] <gerro> caseofthemondays: go in as root and force umount upon the device location and directory it was mounted
[02:34] <Myrtti> gerro: prolly yes
[02:34] <Myrtti> gerro: haven't looked into it though
[02:34] <honke> Allright then I will read up on IPtables and packet filtering...
[02:34] <rolfen> JimQode:  can I make ubuntu write them automatically?
[02:34] <JimQode> rolfen, pastebin your /etc/fstab file and tell be the partition name, filesystem and mount point you want.
[02:34] <Ajit> JimQode: I am trying to learn for binary installation I mean which file would I get usually when i will try to download software for ubuntu,  (i am not interested in source packages since I think i will have to compile this for installation which i don't know).
[02:34] <caseofthemondays> gerro:  yeah already tryed that as well ... the device isnt mounted but the icon still persists
[02:35] <honke> You guys would kill me if you knew how little I paid for all these servers
[02:35] <banlieue> caseofthemondays: what happens if you try to mount the usb to the destination of the desktop icon?
[02:35] <gerro> caseofthemondays: umm well then random kill things until everything dies then reboot computer?
[02:35] <honke> dual hyperthreading xeons with 2GB for $50 each
[02:35] <LucianIndy> caseofthemondays, did you reboot
[02:35] <caseofthemondays> banlieue:  it creates a new icon for the same drive
[02:35] <kslat3r> revilodraw: sudo nano /etc/sysctl.conf
[02:35] <JimQode> Ajit, you get .deb packages. But using apt is the usual way. you can use packages cds as a source if you don't have internet
[02:35] <banlieue> caseofthemondays: so you'd have two icons pointing to the same directory?
[02:35] <caseofthemondays> rebooting does nothing ... its there when i reboot even when the drive isnt connected
[02:35] <gerro> caseofthemondays: I know that a crappy answer xD
[02:36] <caseofthemondays> haha
[02:36] <caseofthemondays> its satanspawn
[02:36] <banlieue> it seems to be :/
[02:36] <revilodraw> kslat3r: u would have to be the mopst helpful person i have met today...if not all week
[02:36] <stefg> !software
[02:36] <ubotu> A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents
[02:36] <gerro> caseofthemondays: if you do killall * as root then you will need to reboot :)
[02:36] <Judg3_Dr34D> honke: that's a killer deal
[02:36] <kslat3r> revilodraw: np :)
[02:36] <banlieue> did you consider putting a sticker over it on your monitor, caseofthemondays?
[02:36] <caseofthemondays> gerro:  i have done everything but dance naked in a fire ... it just wont die
[02:36] <gerro> caseofthemondays: maybe just send a term signal to whichever application handles the icon stuff
[02:37] <gerro> caseofthemondays: are you sure its the device link and not some random icon your friend made?
[02:37] <caseofthemondays> banlieue:  thats funny cause thats just what i was typing ... i have some schotch tape that would take care of it
[02:37] <wimpies> does anybody know how I can tell xine NOT to reset the volume at start ? It always resets it to 50%
[02:37] <banlieue> actually, caseofthemondays
[02:37] <banlieue> disable icons on your desktop altogether
[02:37] <gerro> caseofthemondays: I'm so going to put that on my brothers laptop will bug him to death haha
[02:37] <banlieue> then enable them again, see what happens
[02:37] <caseofthemondays> gerro: im sure .. no one but me has access to this machine
[02:37] <aantn> caseofthemondays: are you using ubuntu se?
[02:37] <caseofthemondays> gerro .. lol
[02:37] <jube> Anyone know a good way to record video from a webcam?
[02:37] <caseofthemondays> aantn:  7.04
[02:37] <banlieue> you can disable the icons altogether in gconf-editor
[02:38] <gerro> jube: webcam program is nice
[02:38] <caseofthemondays> banlieue:  i wonder if i did that and then turned them back on if it would die ... let me see
[02:38] <banlieue> apps > nautilus > desktop
[02:38] <caseofthemondays> yep
[02:38] <Ajit> I have only one cd from ubuntu. which does not have many softwares example like few audio and video codecs(i can't use apt-get since i don't have internet in my ubuntu partition.), Is their any way to download packages only?
[02:38] <banlieue> if that doesn't work, I might just be out of ideas
[02:38] <gerro> caseofthemondays: I remember editing udev and then restarting it for some guide I was following but don't know if that would work
[02:39] <jube> gerro, thanks, I'll check it out. I actually saw that in the apt list but I thought it was only for images from its description
[02:39] <honke> whoever told me about xen... Im reading about it. Are you telling me I shouldn't have a single OS handle all these tasks, but instead run multiple OS's on one machine via virtual machine?
[02:39] <caseofthemondays> gerro:  i could try ... i have done everything else i can think of ... 10 years of unix and i cant figure out a simple x problem .. its pissin me off
[02:39] <banlieue> lol
[02:39] <aantn> caseofthemondays: huh?
[02:39] <banlieue> that's why linux is so much fun
[02:39] <caseofthemondays> aantn:  huh back ?
[02:39] <Dusk_> !WorksForMe
[02:40] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should (and especially recommend to others). Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[02:40] <honke> ok I will take that as a yes
[02:40] <gerro> caseofthemondays: finely tuned gamer nerd fatality skillz yo, just hammer delete and all things good :P
[02:40] <user1_> honke, what are you talking about
[02:40] <JimQode> Ajit, you can download the packages from another ubuntu machine. there is an option for it on synaptic
[02:40] <revilodraw> ubotu: very sound advice... thanks...but its no fun if you dont play
[02:40] <stefg> honke: i'm telling you that you can run all of your services on that machine, except the firewall. This needs to be a separate machine. But you don't need a physical machine for the firewall, you have enough horsepower to have s small virtual machine running the firewall
[02:40] <caseofthemondays> i actually wonder if this is all part of my screwy gnome issue that is supposed to be fixed in the next release ... i boot up with the gnome panel in the center of my screen as well
[02:41] <jube> gerro, webcam only seems to handle uploading images to an ftp server
[02:41] <banlieue> did you google for this problem yet, caseofthemondays?
[02:41] <caseofthemondays> ohh yeah
[02:41] <banlieue> wouldnt surprise me if a bug report was to show up
[02:41] <caseofthemondays> first place i went
[02:41] <Dusk_> hi there...i couldn't find where to change my icons size...where's it??
[02:41] <caseofthemondays> after trying 20 things of my own
[02:41] <gerro> jube: you can disable that feature and do localhost instead read the manpage for webcam its very informative
[02:41] <jube> I'm hoping to record mpeg or avi files including sound from my webcam for later upload to youtube
[02:41] <kslat3r> Dusk_: right click menu
[02:41] <banlieue> Dusk_: on your desktop or in nautilus?
[02:41] <honke> thank you stefg! xen would be used for firewall usage.
[02:41] <gerro> jube: there also this program called motion
[02:41] <Dusk_> Desktop
[02:41] <banlieue> Dusk_: right click > stretch icon
[02:41] <Dusk_> all the Icon set
[02:42] <banlieue> and all the icons would be in your nautilus preferences
[02:42] <banlieue> edit > preferences > view > default zoom level
[02:42] <gerro> how would I go about setting up desktop icons on a icewm setup?
[02:42] <stefg> honke: exactly. a specialized router/fw-distro running in xen does the outside communication, the CS and samba server runs on the host (usinf ubuntu)
[02:42] <askand> When I connect to another computer with vncwiever I get connected and see the screen but changes on the other computer doesnt show..e.g I miniize a window no the coomputer I control and it still appears maximized in my computer..why?
[02:43] <Dusk_> banlieue, i stretched and only one icon is oversized..the others are normal
[02:43] <banlieue> Dusk_: try the second method
[02:43] <kslat3r> askand: sounds like the vnc server is not accepting events from the client
[02:43] <gerro> askand: because default settings are to only update the area of screen you are interacting with over vnc I think
[02:43] <caseofthemondays> restarting x ... brb
[02:43] <Judg3_Dr34D> !X
[02:43] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type  sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:43] <askand> gerro: how do I change that?
[02:44] <honke> I'm now reading http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iptables :) yay
[02:44] <askand> kslat3r how do I make it accept that?
[02:44] <LucianIndy> Does anyone know how to set Compiz to allow Button1 and Button2 on the mouse to enable rotating cube? It was set by default in Beryl but I can't figure it out on this
[02:44] <Ajit> JimQode: thanks a lot for info., I am trying to connect my ubuntu with internet using bluetooth (bluez) )and my mobile's GPRS.
[02:44] <kslat3r> askand what OS is the server on?
[02:45] <tola> when I've mounted an ssh filesystem using Places > Connect to Server, can I access that filesystem at the terminal? i.e. does it have an actual file path?
[02:45] <JimQode> Ajit, np, Have fun ;)
[02:45] <askand> kslat3r ubuntu
[02:45] <kslat3r> what prog u using?
[02:45] <Dusk_> !dock
[02:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:46] <pike__> tola: im assuming it uses sshfs if so just type 'mount' to see path
[02:46] <stefg> honke: http://lists.xensource.com/archives/html/xen-users/2005-07/msg00558.html
[02:46] <Dusk_> which dock do you prefer???
[02:46] <caseofthemondays> hey hey .. look at that .. no icon now.  clearing the desktop and restarting x fixed it.  thanks
[02:47] <banlieue> well then, congrats:)
[02:47] <tola> pike__:  hmm, it doesn't appear to be there
[02:47] <shirish> guys I am on a friends laptop & he has a usb mouse. I installed it yesterday & it worked but today it isn't. I restarted the system twice but the same result. Anybody has any ideas?
[02:47] <xuxa> I am trying to install Ubuntu on an older HP laptop that has no built-in ethernet.  It has a PCMCIA slot and I've got the well-supported 3Com 3CCFEM556B network card.  But Ubuntu install CD doesn't seem to recognize the card and set it up automatically.  Is there a PCMCIA module that I need to load?  Or perhaps there is a PCMCIA-ready Ubuntu installer?  (I vaguely remember having to use something like this to get Debian installed on the mach
[02:47] <caseofthemondays> if only that would fix my gnome bug ... then i would be really happy
[02:47] <tola> pike__:  it's very annoying because I can't access the files from a lot of applications, including the terminal
[02:47] <banlieue> lol
[02:47] <caseofthemondays> shirish:  is the mouse listed in the fsusb list ?
[02:48] <JimQode> tola, I think it has an internal implementation in nautilus. why don't you try sshfs?
[02:48] <caseofthemondays> sorry .. lsusb
[02:48] <fwest> is it possible to configure windows xp to auth against an openldap server?
[02:48] <rolfen> I dragged my the icon for my USB key from the dektop to the trash... to unmount it... or so i thought... and IT STARTED DELETING MY FILES
[02:48] <shirish> caseofthemonday: lemme check
[02:48] <pike__> tola: the syntax to mount it in cli is something like sudo sshfs <IP_ADDRESS>:/ /mnt/dir/   i think but im not sure offhand
[02:48] <Anlar> tola: the gnome virtual fs is for gnome only
[02:48] <fwest> maybe there is a thirdparty client that can be found?
[02:48] <caseofthemondays> rolfen:  its not macos .. lol
[02:48] <stefg> rolfen: : PEBKAC!
[02:48] <Anlar> tola: but you can mount those in terminal separately as well, in case you love pain
[02:49] <pike__> tola: the 1.4:/ is moutning root you could do 1.4:/home/something  its just the path
[02:49] <tola> JimQode, pike__:  thank you, I'll try sshfs
[02:49] <shirish> caseofthemondays: nope, it just shows 5 buses, device 1ID 0000:0000
[02:49] <fsckr> is there a gui program for formatting in ubuntu?
[02:50] <kslat3r> shirish: try dmesg | grep usb
[02:50] <user1_> is there good free web hosting site?
[02:50] <kslat3r> no lol
[02:50] <fsckr> hee
[02:50] <JimQode> fsckr, gparted does harddisks. for anything else you have to use console.
[02:50] <fsckr> a free hosting site
[02:50] <tola> it's a shame Nautilus doesn't just use sshfs/fuse so that it would "just work". There may be a reason why it doesn't...
[02:50] <aantn> user1_: why would someone do that?
[02:50] <fsckr> what is anything else?
[02:50] <askand> kslat3r: both are ubuntu
[02:51] <fsckr> i have a usb hard drive
[02:51] <JimQode> user1_, free and good don't usually go together outside FOSS
[02:51] <aantn> user1_: and go into #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:51] <shirish> ubotu paste
[02:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:51] <user1_> aantn, i don't care
[02:51] <Anlar> tola: yes, the virtual fs the gnome uses was there years before fuse basically. and you really usually don't need to go outside gnome to do things
[02:51] <kslat3r> askand: what vnc software r u using?
[02:51] <aantn> user1_: what do you need the hosting for?
[02:52] <askand> kslat3r vncviever and the builtin "remote desktop"
[02:52] <honke> Whats faster for running fileserver/firewall/router with a small home network: dual 1.7 Xeons or dual 1.5 Xeon MP HT
[02:52] <user1_> aantn, business use
[02:52] <les_ubuntu> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 7.04 from CD on a new Dell D830 Laptop (4Gb ram, 140gb hd). I see the CD boot screen,  I select install Ubuntu, screen flashes with a couple of " PCI: failed to allocate messages" and I end up in busybox with prompt (initramfs). Any suggestions ?
[02:52] <user1_> aantn, i want to open up a business, and want more people to come to my site
[02:53] <aantn> user1_: you can get good hosting for about $30 a year
[02:53] <magicrobotmonkey> does anyone know how to kill wanda the fish?
[02:53] <magicrobotmonkey> i cant find a process
[02:53] <aantn> user1_: I could design you a site if you'd like  :D
[02:53] <stefg> !boot | les_ubuntu
[02:53] <user1_> aantn, free?
[02:53] <ubotu> les_ubuntu: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto
[02:53] <kslat3r> askand: on server, System - Preferences - Remote Desktop, make sure "Allow other users to control your desktop" is checked
[02:53] <aantn> user1_: no
[02:53] <fsckr> LOL
[02:53] <MukiEX> Okay, so I'm aware that Ubuntu is in general, more comprehensively designed than Kubuntu is, but I cannot, for the life of me, stand Gnome's "Run Application" (Alt+F2) box. Is there any way to replace it with KDE's?
[02:53] <user1_> aantn, no thanks, i have dreamweaver and alot sample sites
[02:53] <esra_> slm
[02:53] <Ellixis> Hi all
[02:53] <aantn> user1_: well maybe something simple for free if you give me credit
[02:53] <tritonx> can anyone help me by telling what is going on in my syslog ?
[02:54] <aantn> user1_: kk
[02:54] <shirish> caseofthemondays: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29362/
[02:54] <aantn> user1_: I'd recommend godaddy or 1&1 for cheep hosting
[02:54] <askand>  kslat3r that is checked..I can move the mouse and click and stuff..but it doesnt show on my client
[02:54] <fsckr> i use 1&1
[02:54] <fsckr> ;)
[02:54] <fsckr> cheap and good
[02:54] <Ellixis> I have a Feisty server installed, and I've installed the glibc-doc package.... but I still doesn't have : man 3 printf
[02:54] <shirish> caseofthemondays: there is also a printer involved, but that's another story altogether
[02:54] <Pici> MukiEX: Not that I'm aware of.  I'm not fond of that box either, I use the deskbar panel applet to launch apps by name.
[02:54] <Ellixis> How can I solve this ?
[02:54] <pike__> MukiEX: i dont particularly like gnome but there are alternatives to the run box. an applet docked in the panel for instance
[02:54] <fsckr> heck i dont even do anything with it really but use ftp and email
[02:54] <caseofthemondays> shirish:  looking
[02:55] <shirish> caseofthemondays: ok cool :)
[02:55] <kslat3r> askand: r u expecting the client's mouse to be moving when u move the server's mouse?
[02:55] <Ellixis> libc6-doc package doesn't exist anymore in Feisty
[02:55] <MukiEX> pike__ : The concept of the run box is great, but KDE (and not be default, mind you) does a much better job.
[02:55] <JimQode> MukiEX, what do you dislike about it?
[02:55] <tritonx> can anyone look at this and tell if an hacking attemp brought down my server ? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29363/
[02:55] <askand> kslat3r:  hrm..I am exepting to see on the client when I open a folder on the server
[02:55] <MukiEX> JimQode : It's an interface thing, and it'll take me a couple of chatting lines to describe.
[02:55] <caseofthemondays> shirish:  can you unplug that mouse / plug it back in and get the lsusb | tail please ?
[02:55] <shirish> caseofthemondays: sure
[02:56] <kslat3r> askand: it seems u have missed the concept of vnc connections
[02:56] <caseofthemondays> shirish:  and the dmesg | tail
[02:56] <MukiEX> In KDE, you can set it to auto-complete based on stuff you've run before. (e.g. executed queries that were valid). As such, the dozen or so apps I use are Super+R and a couple of keystrokes away.
[02:56] <askand> kslat3r: o_o what are they for?
[02:56] <askand> kslat3r: I can control the computer but I have to see the other screen to do it..what us is that :S
[02:57] <Anlar> tritonx: more likely misconfiguration somewhere
[02:57] <MukiEX> Gnome's, in contrast, is horrendously annoying. It "auto-completes", but there's no simple way to access those completions without using the mouse, and even then it's counter-intuitive, to the point where you're just wading through the (swear word)ing menus because it's less hassle than using the run box.
[02:57] <kslat3r> askand: what are you trying to do?
[02:57] <echosystm> i would have thought there would be more decent wysiwyg editors made in linux
[02:57] <MukiEX> And it's "auto-completion" takes the better half of a WEEK to kick in. By the time it suggests anything, you're pretty much done typing the word *anyway*.
[02:57] <MukiEX> *its
[02:57] <honke> My girlfriend liked Ubuntu and wanted to keep using it but I thought she wouldnt want it, and now she has spyware up the butt lol
[02:57] <Anlar> MukiEX: report that on gnome's bugzilla
[02:57] <echosystm> all ive got is kompozer :(
[02:58] <echosystm> anyone know of any good ones, at the level of dreamweaver?
[02:58] <shirish> caseofthemondays: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29364/
[02:58] <tritonx> anlar: even if my uptime have been around a month ?
[02:58] <FirefighterBlu3> i try to keep spyware out of my butt
[02:58] <TexasTaz> Hey guys and gals anyone got the ATI Catalyst Drivers to work in Fiesty Fawn for an ATI x300 PCie card
[02:58] <JimQode> MukiEX, Why don't you file a blueprint on launchpad? maybe someone will implement it if it's a good idea
[02:58] <Anlar> tritonx: yeah
[02:58] <MukiEX> Anlar : But it's not a bug so much as a design flaw (I don't put quotes around flaw because I can't think of ANYONE who benefits from that design) and they're much less likely to address those ^_^
[02:58] <echosystm> anyone at all... ?
[02:58] <echosystm> :P
[02:58] <Anlar> MukiEX: you should report it. you'd be surpised to see something in the bugzilla.
[02:58] <MukiEX> JimQode : If there was a way to call KDE's run box the problem'd be solved ^_^
[02:59] <tritonx> anlar: have any suggestion where to look up for the problem ?
[02:59] <shirish> MukiEX: are you talking about bash-completion or something else altogether
[02:59] <Anlar> tritonx: there's way too little information for that
[02:59] <tritonx> anlar : k
[02:59] <TexasTaz> Anyone ????
[02:59] <MukiEX> shirish : No, it's not tab-completion.
[02:59] <askand> kslat3r: I have two ubuntu laptops, on one of them I have enabled remotedektop. I write vncviewer ipnumber:0 on the other and allows the remote connection on the first computer. I then get the screen from the first laptop in my second laptop and I can move the mouse. The problem is if I open a folder or program or anything in the laptop that has remote dektop enabled and am am connected to I dont see anything on the other
[02:59] <MukiEX> Which mind you, is a generally cool shell feature =3
[02:59] <shirish> true :)
[02:59] <MukiEX> (which Windows' cmd program has failed miserably in mirroring.)
[03:00] <shirish> again true
[03:00] <shirish> caseofthemondays: any idea?
[03:00] <caseofthemondays> shirish: it really looks like the system isnt detecting the mouse ... and you have some serious problem with that broadcom network card ..
[03:00] <Anlar> MukiEX: in case you give good reasoning against the present implementation why it's counter-intuitive, it will likely be addressed at some point for everyone..
[03:00] <caseofthemondays> shirish:  do you have another usb mouse you can try ?
[03:01] <shirish> caseofthemondays: that I know about, the broadcom network card
[03:01] <kslat3r> askand: can u open programs and folders through the connection on the client computer?
[03:01] <MukiEX> Anlar : Where can I find the bugzilla? :3
[03:01] <shirish> caseofthemondays: not atm no
[03:01] <askand> kslat3r: client=the computer I control?
[03:01] <happytiger>  Help please ---> http://thekewl.pastebin.ca/612474      I have trouble making a cron job run
[03:01] <TexasTaz> ATI Driver help here please it's driving me nuts
[03:01] <Dusk_> !topaz
[03:01] <MukiEX> btw, Compiz-Fusion performance? NICE =3 . I think I can finally permanently switch to a compositor.
[03:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about topaz - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:01] <Dusk_> what is topaz brainstrom???
[03:02] <caseofthemondays> shirish: it really looks like a hardware issue, or something wrong in the usb automouting system.  if a reboot doesnt fix it I would lead to a hardware problem.  without getting my hands on it I can't be a lot more help.  sorry
[03:02] <kslat3r> askand: sorry can u open folders using the client laptop on the server?
[03:02] <caseofthemondays> meeting time .. bbl
[03:02] <askand>  kslat3r: I can open folders and programs on the computer I control from the "controlling computer" but they dont show on the "controlling computer"
[03:02] <shirish> caseofthemondays: issue solved, the other usb port seems to have an issue, taking out the printer & using that port for the mouse works
[03:03] <kslat3r> askand: this sounds like a bug
[03:03] <askand>  kslat3r: yeah maybe..
[03:04] <Dusk_> what is topaz brainstrom???
[03:04] <alexIdoia> hi I have installed ubuntu on my toshiba laptop since last xmas. Everything is working as expected but for about 2 months the fan of the cpu is going top speed almost all the time, sensor-applet return a 77degreeC,
[03:05] <alexIdoia> what can I do, is it possible that something went wrong in the cpu management because of a buggy installation of ubuntu
[03:05] <alexIdoia> I don't really know what I should do about it
[03:05] <Anlar> MukiEX: bugs.gnome.org I guess
[03:05] <alexIdoia> but I use a have a quiet laptop
[03:06] <alexIdoia> I used to have*
[03:06] <alexIdoia> anyone ?
[03:06] <gordo> can some1 tell me why ubuntu keeps messing up my usb pendrives and keeps changing permissions on mounting devices?
[03:06] <kslat3r> askand: best advice is to
[03:06] <MukiEX> Cool, now I just need to know exactly what process "Run Application" calls ^_^
[03:06] <kslat3r> *whoops
[03:06] <alexIdoia> gordo what fs are your mounting devices ?
[03:06] <kslat3r> askand: just doing a little looking around
[03:06] <Anlar> alexIdoia: might be just a general hardware failure.. use the warranty..
[03:07] <gordo> alexIdoia fs?
[03:07] <alexIdoia> Anlar: warranty no more
[03:07] <alexIdoia> gordo: filesystem
[03:07] <alexIdoia> Anlar: would a clean install solve it ?
[03:07] <gordo> alexidoia generally fat32, external hd, usb pen and cd rom too
[03:07] <alexIdoia> Anlar: could*
[03:07] <alexIdoia> gordo: here is your answer
[03:08] <alexIdoia> fat32 do not respect nore keep file permissions
[03:08] <Anlar> alexIdoia: it's hardware issue.. I don't really think so
[03:08] <kslat3r> askand: http://www.movingtofreedom.org/2007/02/16/howto-remote-desktop-with-vnc-in-ubuntu-edgy-gnu-linux/ this seems like quite a good tutorial
[03:08] <alexIdoia> Anlar: but is there a way to be sure its an hardware problem ?
[03:08] <cy_`> hello
[03:08] <gordo> alexIodoia how do i fix the permissions now, everything is just messed up
[03:08] <cy_`> is there a package for the latest nvidia binary driver (100.14.11) ?
[03:08] <alexIdoia> Anlar: I had some HD problem lately, might the HD cause a overheat of the CPU ?
[03:09] <alexIdoia> gordo: you can't
[03:09] <MukiEX> Okay, Anlar, the bug report is great, but I have no clue which gnome application affects "Run Application" >_<
[03:09] <MukiEX> And there's no option to file a report without that info =(
[03:09] <gordo> alexIdoia: only optin is to reinstall OS?!?!?!
[03:09] <alexIdoia> gordo: this has nothing to do with the OS, it is the formating of your HD
[03:09] <Anlar> MukiEX: pick something, they will then choose something later :D
[03:10] <MukiEX> Cool =3
[03:10] <MukiEX> Oh crap I guessed right >_<
[03:10] <Anlar> MukiEX: they kinda dislike that.. but it isn't always so obvious :)
[03:10] <gordo> my hd is normal ubuntu fs
[03:10] <alexIdoia> gordo: you told me fat32
[03:10] <Romnous> hi guys
[03:11] <gordo> no fat32 is the pendrives
[03:11] <alexIdoia> and 'normal'ubuntu fs does not mean anything
[03:11] <gordo> my hd is normal ubuntu fs
[03:11] <alexIdoia> gordo: and where have you got permissions problem ?
[03:11] <fsckr> what is another program that is similar to mythtv for ubuntu or is there any?
[03:11] <gordo> nothing mounts on usb, just the mouse works
[03:11] <AutumnCat> gordo: there's not a fs called "normal ubuntu fs" ..
[03:11] <tritonx> fsckr : democracy player
[03:12] <gordo> dude i mean ext com'on
[03:12] <alexIdoia> AutumnCat: I told him that :)
[03:12] <fsckr> tritonx, i dont want a player i want a multimedia sweet
[03:12] <AutumnCat> alexIdoia: and what does it means ?
[03:12] <alexIdoia> hey dude you meant a lot of different things and not are related
[03:12] <honke> Is squid somewhat like a DNS server?
[03:12] <hylje> honke: squid is a proxy
[03:12] <honke> doesnt a DNS server cache webpages too?
[03:13] <hylje> no
[03:13] <tritonx> fsckr : hmm, I have to confess I didn't tried MythTV I thought it was a player
[03:13] <alexIdoia> honke: no
[03:13] <hylje> dns caches just dns
[03:13] <AutumnCat> hylje: no
[03:13] <user1_> is there email proxy?
[03:13] <honke> ok. Proxies do that but not DNS's
[03:13] <Skyrail> I hate my ISPs DNS server, they've cached my domain for too long D:<
[03:13] <fsckr> tritonx, no mythtv is a multimedia sweet ;)
[03:13] <honke> suite
[03:13] <tritonx> suite you mean ;)
[03:13] <Skyrail> suite
[03:13] <Skyrail> :B
[03:13] <tritonx> lol
[03:13] <fsckr> i was just wondering if there ya :P
[03:13] <fsckr> :P
[03:14] <fsckr> suite
[03:14] <Skyrail> lol
[03:14] <alexIdoia> Skyrail: do you need to change it al lthe time ?
[03:14] <fsckr> < still wakin up
[03:14] <zdks> hello
[03:14] <tritonx> What s wrong with MythTv it look quite good
[03:14] <pike__> tritonx: it can be a pain. but its not too bad to get working. might try freevo as well it tends to focus on music as well as video. myth is a better vid only box
[03:14] <fsckr> last time I messed with it it was a pain in the ruckus
[03:15] <fsckr> to set up and get going
[03:15] <ariel_> #ubuntu-es
[03:15] <tritonx> yeah I know thats why I never got to try it ;P
[03:15] <gordonjcp> pike__: and emulators!
[03:15] <fsckr> :)
[03:15] <Skyrail> alexIdoia: nah, I just changed it a few months ago and it's yet to change over from my old server to the new one.  I like ubuntu's better, how can I change it back?
[03:16] <Simplechat> adding sources to your repositries list doesn't require a restart?
[03:16] <tritonx> simplechat: no just apt-get update
[03:16] <enviouz> im fairly new to linux. any clues where i should look first as a source to my random net disconnection problem?
[03:16] <SlimeyPete> no. just update synaptic/adept/apt-get/aptitude
[03:16] <Romnous> your cable
[03:16] <anachronik> hey people
[03:17] <Romnous> xD
[03:17] <alexIdoia> Skyrail: it might not only be you ISP that is slow but the DNS server it connects to
[03:17] <Skyrail> sagematt: can't you just download the ubuntu splash and add it using the KDE settings manager?
[03:17] <simon> hello. I run feisty. Is there an addon to open .docx files in Open Office?
[03:17] <anachronik> I keep having the same problem wth ubuntu ver and over... "DSDT not found"
[03:17] <Simplechat> tritonx: i'm trying to get realplayer working for ubuntu.
[03:17] <Ajit> I installed ubuntu 7.04 (if i download gstreamer0.10-plugins-farsight_0.10.2-1ubuntu2_i386.deb and install then would this work to play mp3 files), i have intel celeron 2.4 GHz PC
[03:17] <alexIdoia> simon: .doc files ?
[03:17] <sagematt> Skyrail, I'm using Ubuntu. Do I really have to change it from KDE?
[03:17] <Simplechat> i'm following the instructions, and have added aditional repositries
[03:17] <zdks> wen turn i restricted drivers on, i get after restart black screen with logon page
[03:17] <Simplechat> however it still doesn't seem to want to apt-get
[03:17] <Romnous> sagematt: it's also in gnome?!
[03:17] <alexIdoia> Ajit: !restricted format
[03:18] <alexIdoia> 'restricted format
[03:18] <simon> docx
[03:18] <simon> files
[03:18] <sagematt> Romnous: I mean the boot splash, the one you see when the computer is booting.
[03:18] <Skyrail> alexIdoia: hmm, I've switched my Windoze PC to use OpenDNS but my ubuntu was being annoying and would switch back :( I've yet to try it on kubuntu though which I've recently installed
[03:18] <simon> from microsoft word 2007
[03:18] <alexIdoia> simon what is docx ?
[03:18] <sagematt> Romnous: kubuntu-desktop replaced it for kubuntu's boot splash. I didn't like that.
[03:18] <Romnous> i think he means .doc
[03:18] <pike__> Simplechat: the apt-get way is a simple 'sudo apt-get update' only a kernel update as a rule requires restart
[03:18] <simon> its the new open xml file format from the ne ms word
[03:18] <dimebar> docx is word 2007's default format
[03:18] <Ajit> I can't use apt-get to download and install restricted format (i don't have internet connection in my ubuntu partition)
[03:18] <Skyrail> sagematt: oh you just installed a kubuntu look?
[03:19] <dimebar> using ooxml and other nastiness
[03:19] <alexIdoia> simon: ah yes that shit
[03:19] <tritonx> zdks : you could always try to disable the driver in the drivers apps, and install the package from Nvidia
[03:19] <Simplechat> ok
[03:19] <simon> someone mailed me a document in docx and i heard there is a plugin for open office but cant find it
[03:19] <sagematt> Skyrail: I installed the whole kubuntu-desktop package.
[03:19] <enviouz> the wired network connection just seems to disconnect itself every 30 mins or so. been this way for a few days
[03:19] <Simplechat> thanks pike__
[03:19] <Skyrail> sagematt: including KDE?
[03:19] <alexIdoia> simon: ask your someone to send a standar format
[03:19] <Romnous> simon: like .doc
[03:19] <simon> shes on vacation
[03:19] <tont> hello... I have installed virtualbox after to have restart the session I re-enter and what does not work me l audio has happened? I have tried also ri-compile the alsa driver but the same one does not work
[03:20] <alexIdoia> Romnous: like odt
[03:20] <simon> isn't there a plugin for open office. OO should support it
[03:20] <Romnous> simon: if you can't find it, good chance there isn't one xD
[03:20] <simon> not that i support open xml but we have too
[03:20] <grim76> simon: If I recall correctly Novell has a plug in that works to open the docx files, but it only works with their customized version of OO.
[03:20] <dimebar> simon: i think it may be in the Novell edition of OpenOffice
[03:20] <simon> well i'm not the experienced guys that now where all those things are
[03:20] <alexIdoia> simon: why would OO develop a plugin to read bullshit proprietary format when all its needed is for you to ask for another format
[03:21] <Ajit> alexIdoia: when i try to play then i am getting error of restricted format so that i am asking whether gstreamer0.10-plugins-farsight_0.10.2-1ubuntu2_i386.deb would solve my problem?
[03:21] <alexIdoia> simon: then use standard file
[03:21] <alexIdoia> Ajit: read on ubuntu site about restricted format please
[03:21] <alexIdoia> Ajit: and best use ogg
[03:21] <simon> because. It may be a practical problem... right now i have to work to do and i cant open this document. the sender is on vacation. oops. Should OO have a plugin or should i switch back to windows
[03:22] <alexIdoia> simon: should you be lost ?
[03:22] <melange> can't you install ruby 1.8.6 on feisty?
[03:22] <Romnous> simon: if you have a windows partition, you might ry it on that lol xD
[03:22] <Ajit> alexIdoia: it means I will have to convert all mp3 into ogg?
[03:22] <simon> :P so there is no plugin yet...
[03:22] <aantn_> hello
[03:22] <grim76> The person sending you the document should have sent it in a reasonable format rather than a brand new format that 2/3rds of the world can't read.
[03:22] <Romnous> melange: sure you can
[03:23] <melange> Romnous: how?
[03:23] <Romnous> apt-get install ruby
[03:23] <dimebar> simon: there is a plugin however it is for the novell version of openoffice
[03:23] <Romnous> if it's in the repositories
[03:23] <Romnous> otherwise look for sourcecode on ruby site
[03:23] <pike__> simon: id look at crossover office or vmware to run xp virtually. sometimes you need to emulate windows. vmware-server is a very easy setup or search forums for seamless desktop which uses comb of qemu and rdesktop
[03:23] <alexIdoia> Ajit: that would be smashing but no you can read mp3 on your ubuntu system, please read about restricted format on ubuntu site
[03:23] <Simplechat> uh, has anybody here installed the realplayer .bin?
[03:23] <Romnous> simplechat: .bin for realplayer??? w-t-f
[03:23] <simon> well i'll have to send my file to a third party web client to get it converted. Don't like to. But if you get questions like mine again you can tell them there is a site that converts files for you. But i bet they store them and misuse your information
[03:24] <Simplechat> its from realplayer.com
[03:24] <melange> Romnous: nope - only 1.8.5 . and isn't it a mess to install it from source? I mean - mixing apt-get with manual install
[03:24] <Simplechat> i downlaoded the .bin, chmodded it +x
[03:24] <alexIdoia> Romnous: he meant bean for realplayer
[03:24] <Romnous> melange: not really
[03:24] <simon> http://docx-converter.com/ converts from docx to .doc
[03:24] <Romnous> simon: nice ;)
[03:24] <Simplechat> the installer runs and finishes, but doesn't actually do anything
[03:24] <Simplechat> it makes the setup folder
[03:24] <gangsterlicious> wtf
[03:24] <simon> but we really should get a native linux client, OO plugin to do the same thing
[03:24] <dimebar> simon: http://geekhacks.blogspot.com/2007/05/working-with-word-2007-documentsdocx-in.html
[03:24] <alexIdoia> Romnous: and please stop talking about doc in here
[03:24] <Romnous> simplechat: run the isntaller if it's in that folder
[03:24] <simon> if there are any developpers here that can hear me
[03:25] <Simplechat> ah
[03:25] <Simplechat> ok
[03:25] <Simplechat> it worked, kinda
[03:25] <dimebar> simon: go to that link i pasted; theres a tutorial on how to use the novell plugin in ubuntu
[03:25] <simon> thx
[03:25] <aantn> !botsnack
[03:25] <zdks> i can not find any geforce go 6100 drivers to download
[03:25] <Evolution2> hey guys. i was wondering what "checking sensors" means after a forced disk check on reboot. i have IFS Drives and i transferred a large file from windows to the linux partition. but i had to move it back because it told me that there is an error and that i need to install "apt" which i already have. i would like to know what to do if i want to move large files interpartitions
[03:25] <ubotu> Yum! Err, I mean, APT!
[03:26] <enviouz> anybody here use a realtek ethernet card?
[03:26] <Romnous> enviouz: i have one but it's not in use :/
[03:26] <sagematt> Help, I installed kubuntu-desktop and it replaced ubuntu's boot splash. I don't like kubuntu's splash, I want to change it back.
[03:26] <Simplechat> hehe, working :)
[03:26] <tritonx> zdks : http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/1.0-9639/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9639-pkg2.run
[03:26] <Romnous> simplechat: good :D
[03:27] <Simplechat> how do i change the default handler for a file format?
[03:27] <Daverocks> enviouz: yeah
[03:27] <Simplechat> oh
[03:27] <Simplechat> this is a problem, its not showing it as installed
[03:27] <enviouz> Daverocks:  do have problems with the net randomly disconnecting?
[03:27] <Simplechat> i can run it through terminal (which i did in the first place), but it isn't on any menu's
[03:27] <Daverocks> enviouz: nope
[03:27] <Romnous> simplechat: what is the problem with that?
[03:28] <enviouz> k
[03:28] <Simplechat> why would it do that?
[03:28] <SlimeyPete> have ou tried restarting gnome, Simplechat? I don't use gnome anymore but I usedto find that restarting helped.
[03:28] <Romnous> simplechat: for the filehandling are you running gnome?
[03:29] <Romnous> if so: http://linuxphile.org/node/16
[03:29] <tritonx> zdks, then login to failsafe session run sudo sh NVIDIA....run , maybe you will have to install the headers and some other stuff to compile it
[03:29] <enviouz> i been trying to figure it out the last week. connection drops almost every 30 mins. first i thought it was a problem with dchp but i realized that cant be it because i dont think it would try to renew my ip that often
[03:30] <Daverocks> enviouz: i assume it works fine on windows?
[03:30] <Simplechat> Romnous: i'm using gnome
[03:30] <user1_> evolution is for gnome or kde?
[03:30] <Romnous> bloody windows -.-
[03:30] <SlimeyPete> user1_: gnome
[03:30] <Simplechat> slimey, killall gnome?
[03:30] <enviouz> it did last i new. i havent used windows in about 6 months
[03:30] <alexIdoia> user1_: gnomefreak
[03:30] <SlimeyPete> user1_: KDE uses kontact by default
[03:30] <user1_> is there kde version of kde
[03:30] <Romnous> simplechat: check here for filehandling: http://linuxphile.org/node/16
[03:30] <user1_> is there kde version of evolution
[03:30] <SlimeyPete> Simplechat: just log out and back in again or hit ctrl-alt-backspace
[03:30] <alexIdoia> user1_: it should check on their website
[03:30] <Simplechat> ok :)
[03:31] <SlimeyPete> user1_: yes. Kontact.
[03:31] <enviouz> id check and make sure but i no longer have a windows partition
[03:32] <zdks> to get failsafe mode, i must ctrl-alt-f2 push? :D
[03:32] <tritonx> zkds , in the login screen, select session, then failsafe
[03:33] <enviouz> everytime it happens i also have to disable and renable networking twice to get back on the net too
[03:33] <Layer8> hi all!
[03:34] <Romnous> hi layer8
[03:34] <Layer8> is someone here familiar with kerberos?
[03:34] <Layer8> under ubuntu?
[03:34] <sagematt> Help, I installed kubuntu-desktop and it replaced ubuntu's boot splash. I don't like kubuntu's splash, I want to change it back.
[03:34] <Romnous> have used it but not under ubuntu
[03:34] <Romnous> and for only 30 minutes
[03:34] <Romnous> xD
[03:34] <Layer8> since I installed feisty i have a strange kinit...it behaves different from the one I knew
[03:35] <Faithful> What are diesel vs petrol prices like in the uk?
[03:35] <Layer8> and I see my password when I try to get a ticket
[03:35] <zdks> but i can not see anything, onlly black screen
[03:35] <Romnous> faithful: they have nothing to do with ubuntu?!
[03:35] <melange> great - I downloaded ruby 1.8.6, compiled and installed it. However - /usr/bin/ruby is still 1.8.5 and for some reason 1.8.6 is located in /usr/local/...
[03:35] <Faithful> Romnous: so...
[03:38] <Romnous> melange: mv it?
[03:38] <melange> Romnous: that's the way you normally do it?
[03:38] <Romnous> melange: no
[03:38] <Romnous> melange: you had install options??
[03:38] <Faithful> Romnous:  ubuntu is about community
[03:38] <erUSUL> melange: that's the standar things compiled on *local* site go to /usr/local
[03:38] <Romnous> faithful:  Topic is 'Official Ubuntu Support Channel
[03:38] <melange> Romnous: perhaps i could have set a prefix option when i ran ./configure
[03:38] <melange> Romnous: but nothing interactive
[03:38] <Romnous> -i
[03:38] <melange> erUSUL: ok - so I should just move it to /usr/bin ?
[03:38] <Romnous> but wait
[03:38] <Romnous> lol nvm
[03:38] <erUSUL> melange: just make /usr/local/bin be the first in your path variable or make the link /usr/bin/ruby point to your compiled version
[03:38] <BigBen> I have ubuntu in, but how can i get xchat, it never wants to open when i download it
[03:38] <gerze5ij> hello, i've got problems installing the ubuntu 7.04 amd64 edition. first i downloaded the livecd, but it didnt boot up, and yes i read the help and tried all options=)
[03:38] <SlimeyPete> BigBen: it's available via synaptic
[03:39] <gerze5ij> then i installed ubuntu thorugh the alternate disc, but now ubuntu doesn't boot
[03:39] <devilsreject> hello everybody
[03:39] <gerze5ij> i'm using a radeon graphic card, any suggesions? and yes i read on the forums, but nothing really helped me
[03:39] <Romnous> gerze5ij: you tried using the i386-disc?
[03:39] <BigBen> Also, the java didnt want to install
[03:39] <gerze5ij> why using the 32bit edition with a 64bit cpu?
[03:39] <grim76> gerze5ij: What kind of ATI Radeon do you have?
[03:40] <gerze5ij> grim76 x800 pro
[03:40] <Romnous> gerze5ij: because the 64bit doesn't work for you?!
[03:40] <khaki> when i turn on my PC with an USB WLAN dongle plugged, GSM does not load up
[03:40] <lamalex> does anyone know if there is an unoffical build of feisty for powerpc?
[03:40] <khaki> withouot the dongle it works fine, also when i plug it after GDM got fully loaded
[03:40] <enviouz> dhcdbd: message_handler: message handler not found under /com/redhat/dhcp/eth0 for sub-path eth0.dbus.get.host_name  <---- could this have anything to do with my random disconnections?
[03:41] <SlimeyPete> BigBen: you are using synaptic or add/re progams, yes? not just downloading from the web (you shouldn't do that - it's always harder)
[03:41] <devilsreject> ive been running ubuntu for a while and the only place that gives me realtime typing is here or in a command prompt.. also my system seems to be running EXTREMEMLY sluggish takes forever for the simplist tasks never had this problem in the past any ideas
[03:41] <khaki> GDM*
[03:41] <erUSUL> BigBen: "wont open" or "didn't want to install" are not very informative msgs. Can you explain the problems a little better
[03:41] <erUSUL> !java | BigBen
[03:41] <ubotu> BigBen: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre
[03:41] <grim76> gerze5ij: ok does the PC boot to a black screen, but you can hit ctrl-alt-f1 to go to a tty?
[03:41] <khaki> with the dongle it stops loading at "starting common unix printig service:cupsd"
[03:41] <hwcd> is this on a gutsy install gerze5ij?
[03:42] <hwcd> sorry, just came in, sounded like my issue
[03:42] <gerze5ij> grim76 and can't even reset it with ctrl+alt+del, the numpad lights are blinking, but nothing more
[03:43] <grim76> gerze5ij: ok that I am not sure of.  Did you happen to try an i386 install to see if that worked?
[03:43] <gerze5ij> in which log can i find possible errors on my issue? i can login with the rescure shell
[03:43] <gerze5ij> the 32bit worked for me in the past
[03:44] <grim76> gerze5ij: do you even see the bootsplash?
[03:44] <damiano> ciao
[03:44] <erUSUL> gerze5ij: logs are in /var/log/ check out syslog,  messages and Xorg.log
[03:45] <damiano> a tutti
[03:45] <gerze5ij> no, i guess there could be a problem with the framebuffer, but i already tried to boot the livecd with fb=false, but didn't work
[03:45] <damiano> c' qualche italiano?
[03:45] <devilsreject> ive been running ubuntu for a while and the only place that gives me realtime typing is here or in a command prompt.. also my system seems to be running EXTREMEMLY sluggish takes forever for the simplist tasks never had this problem in the past any ideas
[03:45] <gerze5ij> ok and try it again and check out the logs, thanks
[03:45] <SlimeyPete> !italian
[03:45] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:45] <devilsreject> vid card drivers
[03:45] <erUSUL> !it | damiano
[03:45] <ubotu> damiano: please see above
[03:45] <devilsreject> ?
[03:46] <soulcandy> ha ha ha
[03:46] <youkilldkennedy> Can someone help me get FreeNX running?
[03:46] <grim76> gerze5ij: I don't know with that one.  I have not had a problem like that before.
[03:46] <youkilldkennedy> !pastebin
[03:46] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:46] <erUSUL> devilsreject: have you checked with top or other app if there's some app eating the cpu??
[03:46] <MukiEX> Anlar, you still there?
[03:46] <devilsreject> erUSUL lemme check but i dunt think sooo i mean itss reaaaaall bad like theres a problem with the vid card driver
[03:47] <youkilldkennedy> Error I get when trying to connect to FreeNX: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29368/
[03:47] <MukiEX> Anlar, here's my excessive bug report, I'm not sure if it's written right : http://pastebin.com/m4eb81be2
[03:47] <MukiEX> Hasn't been submitted yet.
[03:48] <BigBen> Oh, when i was checking out live cd, and started to install, and it cept saying: human-icon- theme is mssing final new line
[03:48] <cedric_> salut la foule
[03:48] <BigBen> and it says it when i was opening some things
[03:48] <cedric_> Hi everybody
[03:49] <devilsreject> nautalis looks like whats boggin it down
[03:49] <youkilldkennedy> Hello cedric
[03:49] <devilsreject> what does it do
[03:50] <erUSUL> devilsreject: nautilus is the file manager... whaen you open some location under places etc it even has a burning up
[03:51] <devilsreject> damn man i wounder what the deal is
[03:51] <devilsreject> i guess its just azerous
[03:51] <hwcd> Gutsy Gibbon Tribe 2 live CD: on boot, it loads to a brown/orange Ubuntu background, nothing more. I am able to do a Ctl+Alt+F1 to get to a terminal
[03:51] <hwcd> how can I install it, or how can I boot it into an install mode like Ubuntu used to have?
[03:52] <khaki> when i turn on my PC with an USB WLAN dongle plugged, GDM does not load up
[03:52] <khaki> withouot the dongle it works fine, also when i plug it after GDM got fully loaded
[03:52] <khaki> with the dongle it stops loading at "starting common unix printig service:cupsd"
[03:52] <erUSUL> hwcd: do you really need to install such an alpha release??
[03:52] <devilsreject> erUSUL -- thanks for the help man, one more question i think i have an older version of ubuntu if i go to do an install will i lose everything or will it just install on the current drives leaving my shit??
[03:52] <erUSUL> !gutsy | hwcd
[03:52] <ubotu> hwcd: Gutsy Gibbon is the code name for the next release of Ubuntu (7.10). See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2007-April/000276.html and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GutsyReleaseSchedule - Roadmap and specifications: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/gutsy - Support in #ubuntu+1
[03:53] <erUSUL> devilsreject: if you have home in a separate partition you can do a fresh install without loosing your files if not you have to do a backup
[03:53] <mwe> khaki: you need to check the log files. /var/log/*
[03:53] <sagematt> Help, I installed kubuntu-desktop and it replaced ubuntu's boot splash. I don't like kubuntu's splash, I want to change it back.
[03:54] <mwe> khaki: the error is close to useless unless you provide some logging
[03:54] <BadRobot> hi there .I need urgent help regarding GRUB ERROR 17,does anyone knows if ubuntu has disk rescue for a broken systems and where to get it?
[03:54] <erUSUL> !splash
[03:54] <ubotu> To change the Gnome splash screen, use !gnome-splashscreen-manager or change the GConf key /apps/gnome-session/options/splash_image using !gconf-editor.
[03:54] <khaki> okay mwe
[03:54] <BadRobot> i really much appreciate your help
[03:55] <berent> why am I getting the login screen twice everytime i start my system.
[03:55] <erUSUL> BadRobot: the livecd can act as a recovery tool
[03:55] <berent> on feisty
[03:55] <berent> why am I getting the login screen twice everytime i start my system on feisty
[03:55] <mwe> khaki: look for relevant messages in the files in /var/log
[03:55] <BadRobot> i have tried it,but it says it doesn't have it
[03:56] <devilsreject> ill just burn a dvd w all my shat and just reinstall all the aps sigh.. erUSUL -- are there any other versions of linux similar to ubuntu?? ive been usin ubuntu for like 3 and a half years upgrading as new versions come out.. i like the fact that i can get my os the way i want it then never have to mess with it tili want a new os :0)
[03:56] <BadRobot> I've tried to install ubuntu but when i reboot the laptop ,i appears the GRUB ERROR 17
[03:56] <sagematt> ubotu: Thanks.
[03:56] <ubotu> You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)
[03:56] <Genomsaren> hi my friend says that he has downlaoded a game called warzone from synaptic. But I cant see this game in my synaptic. He said that I havent enabled all depos (sources). How can I do that?
[03:57] <Genomsaren> !synaptic
[03:57] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[03:57] <BadRobot> Linux Mint is a good option for Ubuntu
[03:57] <sagematt> erUSUL: Thanks, but it was not what I was looking for.
[03:57] <devilsreject> BadRobot --- what is Linux Mint???
[03:57] <BadRobot> It is a distro based on Ubuntu
[03:57] <erUSUL> BadRobot: what have you tried? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml <<< see here what the error 17 means
[03:57] <hwcd> ubotu: I fully understand it is an alpha release, and I'm fine with limited support. I need to test some software on it over the next few months, and I have beta-tested the last 3 ubuntu releases
[03:57] <CaptainM> Genomsaren, there called repo's and you can enable more in synaptic package manager
[03:57] <BadRobot> try www.linuxmint.com
[03:58] <WaxyFresh> hi i ran dpkg-reconfigure yesterday,and when it was done i tryed it again to make sure it got everything,it proceded to reconfigure the same stuff all over again,now im running it a third time!why does it just keep going?is it powered by the energizer bunny?
[03:58] <devilsreject> sweet
[03:58] <hwcd> I just am blanking on this: is there a way to boot into just an 'install mode', skipping the live cd bit
[03:58] <TuxProbe> Hello folks, anyone knows how to autorun a cdrom? i dont mean the auto mounting from fstab preferences, but for instance for opening a browser with the TOC or such
[03:58] <hwcd> ?
[03:58] <BadRobot> thx erUSUL
[03:58] <Genomsaren> CaptainM: How can I do that?
[03:58] <mwe> hwcd: no
[03:58] <PriceChild> hwcd, using the alternate cd
[03:58] <mwe> hwcd: not using the desktop cd
[03:59] <hwcd> gotcha
[03:59] <hwcd> thank you
[03:59] <erUSUL> !alternate | hwcd
[03:59] <ubotu> hwcd: The Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD - See also !Minimal
[03:59] <hwcd> thank you very much, i'll do that
[03:59] <CaptainM> Genomsaren, go to system - administration - synaptick package manager from there settings - repositories
[04:00] <erUSUL> hwcd: as i pointed out earlier for gutsy help head to #ubuntu+1 please; TIA
[04:00] <Genomsaren> CaptainM: yeap
[04:00] <BadRobot> The problem is just because i've had the damm PcLinuxOS on this lappy
[04:01] <Nutubuntu> Firefox 2.0.4 seems to be constantly crashing. I think this is associated with the "zombie netstat" issue. Starting Firefox as 'firefox --sync -browser -a' has not resolved the issue. Is there another fix?
[04:01] <BadRobot> PLEASE Do not use PcLinuxOS 2007 because it may harm/destroy your HDD
[04:01] <BadRobot> It did to my
[04:01] <Genomsaren> CaptianM: I think I have to do something in 3rd Party Applications part right?
[04:02] <devilsreject> is LinuxMint its own version of linux>
[04:02] <berent> why am I getting the login screen twice everytime i start my system on feisty
[04:02] <BadRobot> now i am having this annoying GRUB ERRO 17
[04:02] <berent> why am I getting the login screen twice everytime i start my system on feisty .Also somewhere in middle it breaks up saying modules.dep not found
[04:02] <mwe> BadRobot: chances are it's fixable
[04:02] <BadRobot> Linux MInt is a distro based on Ubuntu and GNOME devilsreject
[04:03] <WaxyFresh> hi i ran dpkg-reconfigure yesterday,and when it was done i tryed it again to make sure it got everything,it proceded to reconfigure the same stuff all over again,now im running it a third time!why does it just keep going?is it powered by the energizer bunny?
[04:03] <mwe> BadRobot: that error is when grub cannot mount the selected partition, usually (but not always) because the config file is wrong
[04:04] <CaptainM> Genomsaren, well you can enable all the repositories at the ubuntu software tab. the package you want should be in there
[04:04] <Layer8> how can I configure the name of a symbol on my desktop? I want to have a carriage return if the text is more than X chars
[04:05] <raf256> hello
[04:05] <MrMist> Anyone here tried FreeBob ? I'm trying to make a FireWire sound-card work
[04:05] <raf256> when linux will support audio?
[04:05] <mwe> Layer8: I don't think you can specify it like that. nautilus settings affects it, though.
[04:06] <melange> raf256: what do you mean?
[04:06] <raf256> melange: when it will be possible to in example record sound from Mic on a linux
[04:06] <romboy_> now...
[04:06] <melange> raf256: it is possible
[04:06] <raf256> it doesnt work here
[04:07] <Layer8> mwe, the problem is that the text gets broader than the icon plus space...so it overlaps with other icons' text
[04:07] <raf256> records silence, or white noise, or noise, depending on which PC I try
[04:07] <jhaig> Where can I find a list of wireless network cards that will work with Ubuntu?  Does Ubuntu keep a "compatible hardware" list?
[04:08] <luical> hello, i need help, i cannot move to trash the documents that are in my ntfs disc
[04:08] <mwe> Layer8: I've seen that as well. try playing with the fonts and icon sizes
[04:08] <luical> a can shift delete them, but not move it to trash can
[04:08] <Layer8> mwe, or can I alter the space between the icons?
[04:08] <luical> can somebody help?
[04:09] <mwe> Layer8: I think you can. I'm not sure how, though.
[04:09] <Abhilash> can anybody please tell me how can i give dns server ip in /etc/hosts ?
[04:09] <Abhilash> sorry /etc/network/interfaces
[04:09] <CaptainM> luical, linux can't write to ntfs
[04:10] <thejoe> Abh > you dont do it in interfaces
[04:10] <luical> a know, but i have ntfs.3g
[04:10] <mwe> Layer8: if it's any comfort I can tell you it happens here as well, if I place to icons with long names next to each other
[04:10] <thejoe> you do it in /etc/resolv.conf
[04:10] <CaptainM> luical, weird. I'm afraid I can't help you
[04:11] <BigBen> when i installed xchat, i get this message:
[04:11] <BigBen> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xchat-gnome-common_1%3a0.16-0ubuntu3_all.deb: files list file for package `human-icon-theme' is missing final newline
[04:11] <luical> i can manage all my ntfs files very well with ntfs 3g, the only think i cannot do is move documents to trash can
[04:11] <Layer8> ok
[04:11] <luical> can somebody help me?
[04:11] <ariel_> #ubuntu-es
[04:12] <Max00> hi ive just got a usb belkin bluetooth dongle. Ive been following the guide on the ubuntu website but when i do lsusb it just sits there. can anyone help?
[04:13] <Layer8> mwe, fixed it
[04:13] <Layer8> mwe, /apps/nautilus/icon_view/default_use_tighter_layout -> true
[04:14] <mwe> jhaig: there is not complete list I think, but !hardware
[04:14] <berent> what is bt_metadata in ~/.opera/
[04:14] <mwe> !hardware | jhaig
[04:14] <ubotu> jhaig: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[04:14] <WaxyFresh> hi i ran dpkg-reconfigure yesterday,and when it was done i tryed it again to make sure it got everything,it proceded to reconfigure the same stuff all over again,now im running it a third time!why does it just keep going?is it powered by the energizer bunny?
[04:14] <SlimeyPete> berent: at a guess, maybe someting to do with opera's bittorrent client?
[04:14] <mwe> Layer8: great
[04:14] <berent> SlimeyPete : sounds perfect
[04:15] <WaxyFresh> how do i change my debconf -p so it wont keep asking me silly questions?
[04:15] <wyggler2> is there a way to monitor my nvidia 6600 gpu temp from the command line?
[04:16] <mwe> Layer8: that makes the text overlap the icons below here
[04:16] <_6StringKng_> how do I get my middle mouse button working for liek scrolling in firefox, you know when you middle click it?
[04:16] <anachronik> I keep having the same problem with ubuntu over and over... "DSDT not found"
[04:16] <Layer8> mwe, right, but ok for me
[04:16] <mwe> Layer8: yeah. you can move the a bit as well
[04:17] <berent> SlimeyPete : where are cookies stored . are they stored unencrypted ?
[04:18] <WaxyFresh> what are my options for debconf -p teh man pages dont say it
[04:18] <WaxyFresh> hi i ran dpkg-reconfigure yesterday,and when it was done i tryed it again to make sure it got everything,it proceded to reconfigure the same stuff all over again,now im running it a third time!why does it just keep going?is it powered by the energizer bunny?
[04:19] <VoX> WaxyFresh: why do you keep running it?
[04:19] <WaxyFresh> VoX: because when i go to install something it says i have to
[04:19] <mwe> WaxyFresh: well sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf tells you
[04:20] <gbw> hello, how can i "source" the /etc/environment ?
[04:20] <erUSUL> WaxyFresh: you are asking to reconfigure all what else you expect to happen?? (note the *re* before configure)
[04:20] <WaxyFresh> mwe: thanks
[04:20] <Pici> gbw: sudo pico /etc/environment     ? I'm not sure if thats what you're asking
[04:20] <Glave-work> I have a defunct lvm that I'm trying toget rid of, I've done a vgremove, lvremove and pvremove, but its still hanging onto /dev/evms/lvm2/lvm-raid/lvm0: whicis preventing me from disassembling that raid array
[04:21] <Glave-work> is there somethingI'm missing to nuke the lvm?
[04:21] <gbw> Pici, i edited the file, now i want to make the changes effective, how can i do it?
[04:21] <mwe> pico ;)
[04:21] <gbw> for .bashrc or similar, i had to do source .bashrc, but for /etc/environment?
[04:21] <WaxyFresh> erUSUL: lol just went back and looked it did tell me to use configure,for some reason i thought it said reconfigure,god i feel like a moron
[04:21] <honke> honk
[04:21] <dsnyders> Hi all!  I'm having problems mounting a filesystem by UUID.
[04:22] <mwe> isn't pico just a link to nano?
[04:22] <Pici> gbw: If anything, you'd have to log out/log back in
[04:22] <Pici> mwe: yes
[04:22] <erUSUL> WaxyFresh: ;D
[04:22] <gbw> Pici, i believe i can do it without logout, i hate logout :(
[04:22] <Pici> gbw: I'm not sure then.
[04:23] <mwe> Pici: does it act differently when called by the symlink, like some programs?
[04:23] <gbw> Pici, :( i will do a reboot then
[04:23] <berent>  where are cookies stored by opera. are they stored unencrypted ?
[04:24] <Pici> mwe: /usr/bin/pico is linked to /etc/alternatives/pico which is in turn linked to /usr/bin/nano (by default).  AFAIK, it acts the same.
[04:24] <mwe> berent: yes I think so, ~/.opere, IIRC
[04:24] <faraaz> hi all...
[04:24] <mwe> Pici: my pico link points directly to nano
[04:24] <faraaz> um...i was wondering if someone could help me out...having trouble connecting to undernet in IRC
[04:24] <berent> mwe : is it cookies4.dat?
[04:25] <Pici> mwe: Well, I'm running Gutsy here, it might be different.
[04:25] <mwe> Pici: maybe so
[04:25] <mwe> berent: I would think so. I haven't used it for a long time
[04:27] <dsnyders> Hi all!  I'm having problems mounting a filesystem by UUID.  vol_id gives me a number, findfs can find it, but mount (and fstab) canot.
[04:27] <_6StringKng_> could someone give me a link to that script for the media keyboard buttons again?
[04:28] <_6StringKng_> for controlling amarok
[04:28] <dsnyders> !uuid
[04:28] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell:  blkid  (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[04:28] <gbw> Pici, found it, you can use . /etc/environment
[04:29] <WaxyFresh> hi im trying to use vmplayer and i get this error after opening a vmx file:Could not open /dev/vmmon: No such file or directory.
[04:29] <WaxyFresh> Please make sure that the kernel module `vmmon' is loaded. how would i load this?
[04:29] <blubloblu> _6StringKing_ have you tried keyTouch?
[04:30] <tapas> i failed setting up my wlan with graphical ubuntu tools.. three command lines later it ran
[04:30] <_6StringKng_> well someone directed to a page where I downloaded a script for them, it worked, until I restarted, but I deleted the file
[04:30] <Pici> gbw: Ah... that makes sense too.. :)
[04:31] <blubloblu> _6StringKing_ i don't know which one that is, a google search came up with this: http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/
[04:31] <gbw> Pici, but still i dont understand what that "." do
[04:31] <Pici> gbw: it just runs /etc/environment as if it was a script
[04:31] <tapas> what is the normal way in ubuntu to set up the wireless lan?
[04:31] <tapas> e.g. where do i click? :)
[04:32] <gbw> Pici, but the /etc/environment doesnt have +x mode
[04:32] <blubloblu> tapas: network manager in the tray?
[04:32] <derenrich> anyone know if the security.ubuntu mirror is down? I keep timing out
[04:32] <tapas> blubloblu: isn't there
[04:32] <gbw> derenrich, same here
[04:32] <blubloblu> system>admininstration> network <something>
[04:32] <tapas> blubloblu: i can start it manually from the menu. but it fails to connnect even to a non password protected net
[04:32] <derenrich> i think it is just slow, because it gets to about 80 soemthing percent and then dies
[04:33] <derenrich> but it is annoying
[04:33] <dsnyders> Do I have to reboot for UUIDs to take effect?
[04:33] <tapas> only way i could make it work was to use iwconfig and dhclient manually
[04:33] <tapas> (never fails :)
[04:33] <derenrich> in any case, why is OpenOffice stored on security.ubuntu.com, doesn't make any sense
[04:33] <blubloblu> security.ubuntu.com is up for me in ireland
[04:33] <derenrich> hmm, yeah it is working better now
[04:33] <gbw> Pici, running the script in console looks fine, but it doesnt work for update manager, update manager still use the old environment
[04:33] <derenrich> The download just finished
[04:34] <sunami> hi
[04:34] <gbw> seems nothing help except logout
[04:34] <sunami> can some one help me
[04:34] <derenrich> !ask
[04:34] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:34] <sunami> i cant seem to use ubuntu
[04:34] <sunami> i insert the cd
[04:34] <gbw> derenrich, still not for me  :(
[04:34] <sunami> ans it says i did not config the display correctly
[04:34] <derenrich> gbw, it is slow, just keep trying
[04:34] <gbw> still connecting
[04:35] <blubloblu> sunami: what graphics card do you have?
[04:35] <gbw> [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com (<IP_ADDRESS>)]
[04:35] <Pici> gbw: I just did an experiment.  It seems it runs each line of the file as if it was a bash command...
[04:35] <Anlar> gnome project's bugzilla just crapped itself
[04:35] <sunami> x1600
[04:35] <sunami> ati
[04:35] <sunami> the laptop version
[04:35] <derenrich> Anlar: what do you mean?
[04:35] <gbw> Pici, where can i find manual for "."? i do "man ." but no manual
[04:35] <Anlar> derenrich: database flipped
[04:35] <derenrich> oh man
[04:36] <Pici> gbw: It might be in the bash manpage
[04:36] <berent> why am I getting the login screen twice everytime i start my system on feisty .Also somewhere in middle it breaks up saying modules.dep not found
[04:36] <Anlar> I think that means.. laundry time :)
[04:36] <berent> why am I getting the login screen twice everytime i start my system on feisty .Also somewhere in middle it breaks up saying modules.dep not found
[04:36] <gbw> Pici, if i do "man bash" how can i skip to "." section?
[04:37] <gbw> Pici, i accidentally skipp to the "." section, and found that "." and "source" are identic
[04:37] <Pici> gbw: interesting
[04:38] <berent> labradors and tobi__ sound like .... no offence though
[04:38] <mirza___> Can you use apt-get to install in ~ on systems where you aren't root?
[04:38] <blubloblu> sunami: press Ctrl-Alt-F1
[04:38] <sunami> ok
[04:38] <sunami> will try it now
[04:38] <blubloblu> sunami: you should get a prompt
[04:38] <erUSUL> !repeat | berent
[04:38] <ubotu> berent: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[04:38] <sunami> then?
[04:39] <sunami> what do i do after the promp
[04:39] <TheCreationist> I have a very serious problem.  Almost all of my applications are crashing immediately with a "Segmentation Fault" error.  Even the terminal and Firefox.  What can I do?
[04:39] <berent> mirza__ : no
[04:39] <Glave-work> anyone familiar with lvm?
[04:39] <blubloblu> type in nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:39] <mirza___> berent, so I have to conf make make install manually?
[04:39] <stefg> mirza___: apt-get needs root access to the package database anyway... i doubt that'll work, but see !apt for more than a guess
[04:39] <sunami> when i get the error
[04:39] <sunami> or when i get the option to run and install from cd
[04:39] <blubloblu> when you get the error
[04:39] <sunami> ok
[04:40] <mwe> which is the better signal level for wifi, -33 dBm or -46 dBm?
[04:40] <ariel_> alquien habla espaol
[04:40] <blubloblu> that will show you your configuration
[04:40] <Pici> !es | ariel_
[04:40] <sunami> anything else i need to know
[04:40] <ubotu> ariel_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:40] <stefg> !info fakeroot | mirza___
[04:40] <ubotu> mirza___: fakeroot: Gives a fake root environment. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.10ubuntu2 (feisty), package size 97 kB, installed size 388 kB
[04:40] <sunami> before i restart
[04:40] <berent> mirza__ : yes. else you can login in single user mode as root and install without sudo
[04:40] <blubloblu> well, that command will show you your configuration
[04:40] <ariel_> pici
[04:40] <sunami> then i paste here?
[04:40] <berent> mirza__ : stefg is right
[04:40] <blubloblu> it won't actually fix anything but you'll see what's going wrong
[04:41] <sunami> k
[04:41] <Frogzoo> mwe: -33
[04:41] <labradors> SITUATION: A private school in a remote area of a third-world country; no Internet connection on-site (only in the city, where I am now); 60 Windows XP machines to use as clients; want to set up ubuntu as samba server.  QUESTION: For the given situation, is 7.04 better, or is 6.06LTS better?
[04:41] <blubloblu> sunami: pastes http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:41] <ariel_> quiero saber si ubuntu 7.04 se puede restaurar a sus valores originales
[04:41] <blubloblu> !es | ariel_
[04:41] <ubotu> ariel_: Si busca ayuda en Espaol por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendr mas ayuda.
[04:41] <gordonjcp> labradors: tough call
[04:41] <Rienzilla> I'd use 6.06lts, but I doubt it will make a large difference
[04:42] <Pici> ariel_: escribe /j #ubuntu-es
[04:42] <TheCreationist> labradors: 6.06 is a lot more stable than 7.04 and would require updates less often.  So if you don't have internet access, I would recommend 6.06.
[04:42] <gordonjcp> labradors: yeah, I'd tend to agree with Rienzilla
[04:42] <Frogzoo> labradors: 7.04 desktop is superior - eg. gnome is much faster - also, get yourself a point to point wifi feed
[04:42] <gordonjcp> labradors: there's not a lot in it
[04:42] <ariel_> muchas gracias
[04:42] <ariel_> por su ayuda
[04:42] <TheCreationist> !sp | ariel_
[04:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:42] <stefg> labradors: i'd go for 6.06 for no apparent reason. Only if there's hardware which needs a newer kernel 7.04 would be the obvious choice
[04:42] <gordonjcp> labradors: how far from your school to the nearest internet connection?
[04:42] <Frogzoo> labradors: glad we set you straight ;)
[04:43] <gordonjcp> labradors: OpenSolaris!
[04:43] <hoelk> hmm i never had problems with 7.04
[04:43] <slytherin> Anybody here got New1973? :-D
[04:43] <slytherin> Neo1977
[04:43] <labradors> Nearest Internet connection is about nine miles.
[04:43] <hoelk> could think of no reason for 6.06
[04:43] <labradors> Due to terrain and road conditions, that's about a 45-minute drive.
[04:43] <TheCreationist> I have a very serious problem.  Almost all of my applications are crashing immediately with a "Segmentation Fault" error.  Even the terminal and Firefox.  What can I do?  And without Firefox, I can't download an Ubuntu ISO (unless someone could give me a wget command I could Alt-F2 to get it)...
[04:43] <slytherin> Neo1973 (this time right)
[04:43] <Frogzoo> labradors: line of sight ???
[04:43] <berent> labradors : without internet how are u in IRC
[04:44] <labradors> Otherwise, satellite Internet is just to expensive.
[04:44] <MrElendig>  labradors sat-link
[04:44] <TheCreationist> berent: He said he's in the city right now.
[04:44] <MrElendig> radio-link
[04:44] <stefg> hoelk: simply no experimental features as they were introduced in edgy, and haven't stabilized in feistall the wayy
[04:44] <gordonjcp> labradors: hm, nine miles is a bit long for cheap off-the-shelf gear
[04:44] <Frogzoo> labradors: satellite dishes can do wifi at 10miles if you have line of sight & clearance
[04:44] <berent> ok
[04:44] <MrElendig> you can get 400andsomething mb with a radiolink
[04:45] <labradors> If you also have the $$$, Frog.
[04:45] <gordonjcp> labradors: if you've got clearish line-of-site you can get high-end P2P links that will do it no problem
[04:45] <gordonjcp> labradors: aha, yes
[04:45] <mwe> Frogzoo: thanks. I gotta learn about these figures. negative signal levels sounds odd to me
[04:45] <Frogzoo> labradors: you'd be surprised...
[04:45] <gordonjcp> therein lies the rub
[04:45] <SlimG> What CLI tool is used to decode .ape files to .wav files ?
[04:45] <labradors> In addition, the Internet connections in the city are, for example $90/mo for 128k of bandwidth.
[04:45] <berent> labradors : this seems the question of the day . rib tickling
[04:45] <Frogzoo> mwe: dbs are an exponent, so bigger minuses are less
[04:46] <gordonjcp> labradors: Orthogon Gemini Lite, 10Mbps bidirectional, about 6000 GBP
[04:46] <gordonjcp> probably cheaper now
[04:46] <mwe> oh
[04:46] <Frogzoo> labradors: muhahahah
[04:46] <berent> :-))
[04:46] <mwe> now it starts to make some kind of sense to me then
[04:46] <TheCreationist> SlimG: .ape files haven't been supported in LInux yet for some reason.  At least not that I could find through Google or on here.
[04:46] <gordonjcp> labradors: would 9600 baud be any use?
[04:46] <annoia> I have a laptop where I need the madwifi drivers, but I need not to have the binary nvidia drivers (since they are too old). Is this possible through the package system? It seems as if it is all or nothing! :(
[04:47] <labradors> gordo, to compare to the local economy, my monthly rent is only $150.  6000 GBP is astronomical!
[04:47] <labradors> Not sure about 9600, gordon.
[04:47] <SlimG> TheCreationist: ok, thanks for letting me know
[04:47] <TheCreationist> SlimG: Good luck to you, though.
[04:48] <labradors> Will have to get the opinion of the guy who will have to use it.  I live in the city, but am helping out at the school.
[04:48] <gordonjcp> labradors: I don't know how much $150 is
[04:48] <Lounge> need help with a makefile. what command do you use to compile it?
[04:48] <annoia> lounge - make
[04:48] <SlimG> TheCreationist: Never a problem, allways have wine to fall back on :)
[04:48] <mhz`> labradors, what country btw?
[04:48] <Lounge> ok thanks
[04:48] <berent> labradors : a linux server for a windows . which country is that!!
[04:48] <gordonjcp> labradors: we don't have dollars here, we have the metric system
[04:48] <Lounge> do i need any extra libs for it?
[04:48] <Originooo> kennt jemand ein programm fr gnome ala klipper von kde?
[04:49] <annoia> gordonjcp - Metric dollars?
[04:49] <stefg> !de| Originooo
[04:49] <ubotu> Originooo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:49] <Romnous|BRB> warum sprechen sie deutsch
[04:49] <labradors> gordon, it's about 75 GBP.
[04:49] <Romnous|BRB> ich glaube das es hier ein englischen irc ist
[04:50] <Romnous|BRB> oder wie man das auf deutsch sagt
[04:50] <niru> After installation the system does not reboot
[04:50] <kidko> what takes more RAM (on average), KDE or GNOME?
[04:50] <niru> I gave d-i finish-install/reboot_in_progress note
[04:50] <ererr> gnome.
[04:50] <niru> then also system does not reboot
[04:50] <niru> I am actually building cd
[04:50] <Lounge> the make command responding with "Linux kernel source not found" stop
[04:51] <labradors> The local currency is HNL, but I was referring to USD.
[04:51] <niru> what I need to give for automatic reboot in the seed filer
[04:51] <labradors> Country is Honduras.
[04:51] <stefg> kidko: gnome is slightly more ram hungry, but once you have firefox or openoffice loaded the situation reverses (because you'll have qt /and/ gtk libs un memeory under KDE)
[04:51] <maxagaz> My macbook runs on an grey screen and can't load rEFIT anymore, what can I do ?
[04:51] <pike__> kidko: typically gnome is less effecient than kde. but when a system has 1 gig of ram these days..
[04:52] <labradors> In ubuntu, is samba part of the default installation, or must one add it on afterward?
[04:52] <kidko> stefg: If a system could run Mac OS 7 fine, would it make a major difference which one I picked to use?
[04:52] <Frogzoo> labradors: not default, no
[04:52] <mhz`> i like gnome :(
[04:53] <mhz`> haven't had any probs with it..
[04:53] <berent> labradors : it can be installed easily no probs
[04:53] <labradors> Is the Internet nmecessary for installing it?
[04:53] <berent> labradors : you are already in city right
[04:53] <Lounge> ok downloading linux-source, hopefully that'll help compile this makefile
[04:53] <labradors> (samba, that is)?
[04:53] <anandanbu> How do i start the apache server in ubuntu 7.04
[04:53] <labradors> I am in the city.  the computers are not.
[04:53] <ererr> service httpd start
[04:54] <mhz`> labradors, it might be best to install where you are then do the installs/configuring/updating that is needed then bring the box back
[04:54] <labradors> I must download to CD or DVD and take it out there.
[04:54] <mhz`> that way you do have the access of the internet
[04:54] <dcomsa> anandanbu: /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[04:54] <Frogzoo> labradors: synaptic has a handy option "generate package download script" so you can capture all the needed dependencies
[04:54] <niru> any body can help me?
[04:54] <berent> labradors : make sure you download all dependent packs also
[04:54] <stefg> kidko: lets put it that way: you need 256 MB minimum to run ubuntu/kubuntu. if you have less run xubuntu. if you have less than approx. 96 MB then fluxbuntu is your only real option. So if you have an antique old world mac there (like 32 MB or 64 MB) don't even try KDE or Gnome
[04:54] <labradors> Of course.
[04:54] <BigBen> How can i get ubuntu to take mp3 files?
[04:55] <berent> labradors : best is to get the server and install and then take it back
[04:55] <anandanbu> dcomsa: Thanks
[04:55] <mhz`> anyone know how to get pidgin to accept returns when creating away messages/editing user info?
[04:55] <Frogzoo> !codecs | BigBen
[04:55] <ubotu> BigBen: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:56] <labradors> I could probably TRY to get the server back here for installation, but am not sure how much I would trust it to taking it back up there on a very bumpy school-bus trip.
[04:56] <niru> labradors, any idea
[04:56] <niru> no one is pinging here
[04:56] <kslat3r> ping is turned off for some reason ?
[04:56] <niru> kslat3r, any idea how to solve the booting problem
[04:57] <berent> labradors : pack it up in a cushioned box to resist the bumpy drive. take help of a packer
[04:57] <Thang> please help me, now I cannot use DVD-ROM
[04:57] <Lounge> i have an old sony vaio pcg-f450 laptop with kubuntu installed ~ but the graphics really lag on it. I wonder if it's because the graphics card is yamaha and is there any drivers for that brand?
[04:57] <berent> labradors : i dont think there is any software for that!
[04:57] <berent> !pack
[04:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pack - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:57] <devilsreject> hello everybody
[04:58] <labradors> @berent: must find way to get it to fit through a school-bus door once it has been packaged sufficiently.
[04:58] <Lounge> oh what not yamaha that's the sound card
[04:58] <Lounge> nm
[04:58] <devilsreject> i have ubuntu 6.10 and i am attempting to do the distribution upgrade but its giving me an error
[04:58] <berent> labradors : does it open from top!
[04:58] <devilsreject> liek i dont have a correct source or somethin
[04:58] <labradors> LOL!
[04:59] <labradors> Not unless it falls of into the river.
[04:59] <labradors> off
[04:59] <stefg> labradors: i'd get dapper, and a local repo on CD...
[04:59] <Thang> :(
[04:59] <Thang> please help me
[04:59] <Thang> I used it ok yesterday
[04:59] <berent> labradors : try a rescue boat on river
[04:59] <kslat3r> !DVD | Thang
[05:00] <labradors> I MAY be able to enlist the help of someonoe with 4wd.  We'll have to see.
[05:00] <Thang> yeah
[05:00] <ubotu> Thang: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs
[05:00] <Thang> I use a Samsung laptop
[05:00] <kidko> stefg: all right, thanks
[05:00] <labradors> Did you guys ever reach a consensus of choosing between 7.04 and LTS for this?
[05:01] <labradors> It sounded about as split as the discussions I saw on the forum.
[05:01] <TheCreationist> labradors: Most of us suggested 6.06, I believe.
[05:01] <Thang> my problem is, I can see the DVD Drive, but I cannot open to get the data inside :(
[05:01] <TheCreationist> labradors: But a lot also said it shouldn't matter ;)
[05:01] <ScreaminIke> what is the command to do use the X configuration utility?
[05:01] <labradors> Does the support of the LTS require an Internet connection on-site?
[05:01] <kslat3r> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:01] <TheCreationist> ScreaminIke: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:01] <TheCreationist> Yeah, what kslat3r said faster ;)
[05:01] <kslat3r> muaha
[05:02] <ScreaminIke> thx, all.
[05:02] <labradors> If so, it may be a moot point, or other factors may affect the decision.
[05:02] <sunami> hi i got a screen found but none have a usable configuration. erro
[05:02] <sunami> error*
[05:02] <TheCreationist> labradors: It does, generally.  However, with 6.06, since the updates won't happen as often as 7.04, you could simply download them once a month from the internet and then copy them to the respective systems.
[05:02] <osxdude|laptop> Thang: the DVD is bad.
[05:03] <niru> can i get any developer here around
[05:03] <niru> developers please ping
[05:03] <labradors> Thanks, TC.
[05:03] <niru> urgent help needed
[05:03] <TheCreationist> labradors: Or just don't update them at all.  6.06 is extremely stable and if it all works out-of-the-box, then there is no need to update at all.
[05:03] <stefg> labradors: although newer is better, dapper is now rather well tested and bugs are ironed out. Feisty might give you trouble (because there are new , not so well tested features in it).   LOL!
[05:04] <sunami> hi i got a screen found but none have a usable configuration. erro
[05:04] <labradors> Okay.  It looks like I'll try 6.06.
[05:04] <fevel> hello
[05:04] <niru> fevel, hi
[05:04] <berent> labradors : normally servers never need to update as they are serving a LAN . so once it works there is no need to update. For a school its more than enuf
[05:05] <kslat3r> thats not necessairily true if there are security holes or bugs found in programs surely?
[05:05] <stiV> hi everyone ... i have a question: i am trying to install multiple machines unattended, which is working pretty good, i have my own mirror and costumized packages (eg. apache2 package w. ssl generation and change config files built in) but i just can't figure out how to tell the "postfix" package to stop asking for configuration. (i changed the package to hold all the configs i need). anyone an idea or a link where i could find inf
[05:05] <labradors> Next question: The download page seems to be FTP-based.  Since there can sometimes be problems with downloads THAT large on the connections we have here, are there any BitTorrent-based downloads for 6.06LTS?
[05:05] <berent> labradors : but yeah you have to cross the river though
[05:05] <TheCreationist> kslat3r: Why would security be a major issue in a non-network environment?
[05:06] <kslat3r> is this not?
[05:06] <ScreaminIke> is there another utility i can use to configure x? or some argument i should be using?
[05:06] <sarthor> Hi, Using ubuntu feisty, how to route add ppp0? my ip is not static, thats Y i want to add my modem as my default route. Sorry for my weak english
[05:06] <Dante123> hi all.....I'm planning on installing ubuntu for my neighbour....he has an HP Media Centre m7250 with Windows XP Media version on it......I notice that there is a small fat32 partition (HP may have some diagnostice stuff on there) and the rest of the drive is ntfs.......when I install....I don't want to wipe out his windows........and the choices are guided (use entire drive).......guided (use largerst continous free space) and manual.......I
[05:06] <osxdude|laptop> niru: I just pinged you. "(10:04:48 AM) PING reply -- Lag: 0 seconds"
[05:06] <OldPink> //join ##mbhoy
[05:06] <fevel> I have a pavilion dv2000 Laptop, does anyone know if I could get things going with Ubuntu on this hardware...I use Vista and im scared to make the switch because of my wificard and lightscribe drive
[05:06] <stefg> !automate | stiV
[05:06] <ubotu> stiV: Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning
[05:06] <Dante123> want to give him a 20gb partition........but when I go into Manual.....i get confused.......I tried using gparted and resizing the ntfs partition.... but it wouldn't let me....said there were errors or the drive needs to be checked for errors......any suggestions?
[05:06] <niru> osxdude|laptop, do u know the solution of what I asked
[05:07] <sarthor> Hi, Using ubuntu feisty, how to route add ppp0? my ip is not static, thats Y i want to add my modem as my default route. Sorry for my weak english
[05:07] <pandemonium> hez
[05:07] <pandemonium> hez
[05:07] <sadsadsadA> Does anyone know why my cronjob doesnt work?: */5 * * * * root /usr/bin/php /var/www/erage/cron/usersOnline.php
[05:07] <pandemonium> hey....whats up here
[05:07] <berent> labradors : try apt-get . it recovers with any previously cut package
[05:07] <stefg> !dialup | sarthor
[05:07] <W9ZEB> alright,  I had an Edgy computer,  that likely has been updated step by step since warty.
[05:07] <ubotu> sarthor: You want to connect via dial-up? Read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[05:07] <osxdude|laptop> niru: no...
[05:08] <labradors> Hmmm...Is that apt-get available for Windoze?  Unfortunately, that's what is on the system where I will need to do the download.
[05:08] <W9ZEB> I replaced my /etc/sources.list with one from Fiesty.  did apt-get update,  apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:08] <hendrixski> :-( I have to chmod something to be -rw-r----- ... but I can't figure out what the number code is for it... and how do I not get the "d" to show up in the front?  Anyone have any helpful words of wisdom?
[05:08] <stefg> !download | labradors
[05:08] <ubotu> labradors: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[05:08] <W9ZEB> and now I'm running into troubles.  It's upset about courier-base.
[05:09] <sarthor> ubotu, Dear I have read, but due to my less knowledge, i am unable to understand that. .i am new, i only want to add my ppp0 as my default
[05:09] <sadsadsadA> Does anyone know why my cronjob doesnt work?: */5 * * * * root /usr/bin/php /var/www/erage/cron/usersOnline.php
[05:09] <W9ZEB> is anyone able to help re cleanly remove/reinstall/repair courier-base and it's deps?
[05:09] <kitche> hendrixski: d is part of the directory you'll have it no matter what
[05:09] <stefg> labradors: download an iso, burn it to CD, or get a free copy from !shipit , if you can't burn
[05:09] <Dante123> hi all.....I'm planning on installing ubuntu for my neighbour....he has an HP Media Centre m7250 with Windows XP Media version on it......I notice that there is a small fat32 partition (HP may have some diagnostice stuff on there) and the rest of the drive is ntfs.......when I install....I don't want to wipe out his windows........and the choices are guided (use entire drive).......guided (use largerst continous free space) and manual..
[05:09] <berent> labradors : why don't you get a  cd shipped
[05:09] <hendrixski> W9ZEB, you know they have a program to do the updates so that you can't mess it up if you do it from command prompt
[05:09] <W9ZEB> hendrixski: that program would have required X be installed wouldn't it.
[05:09] <ScreaminIke> is there another utility i can use to configure x? or some argument i should be using?
[05:09] <kslat3r> !partitioning | Dante123
[05:09] <ubotu> Dante123: Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted (also "man mkfs" for formatting) - Mounting partitions in Gnome under Dapper: System -> Administration -> Disks - For Edgy, see !fstab and !DiskMounter
[05:09] <OldPink> Dante123, use manual, resize the largest partition down by minimum 2GB then make a new one
[05:10] <Frogzoo> ScreaminIke: run "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[05:10] <stiV> ty ubotu - the installation is working very well, and i have a working unattended netboot environment, but because i changed some components on my mirror i can't get the installer to use the packages i want before the first boot, so i made a one-time bootscript (which works as well) where i do an aptitude update and install all the packages i want via aptitude install XY. thing is, postfix asks questions and i wandted to know if i
[05:10] <labradors> berent, because the postal service is much less reliable.  A post card may take 6-8 weeks, IF it gets there.
[05:10] <hendrixski> kitche, oh... hhmmm... because I hozed my /var/cache/apt/archive directory :-( and I tried recreating it,, but the permissions are all wrong so I can't apt-get
[05:10] <hendrixski> W9ZEB, yes it would
[05:10] <pike__> ScreaminIke: either sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg or or guess sudo Xorg -configure though i havent dont that in ubuntu. or just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf with a text editor
[05:11] <sarthor> using feisty, how to add ppp0 as my default route, like we add an ip as route on the command route add default gw xx.xx.xx.xx
[05:11] <Dante123> OldPink...when I get to the manual section......and it shows me the drives......i.e. the fat32 partition, the ntfs, do I select the ntfs and "edit partition"?
[05:11] <W9ZEB> hendrixski: then it wasn't available for me.....  also a moot point now that I have a half broken machine.
[05:11] <labradors> It also costs a LOT!  Sending a four-page document from here to the States via FedEx, for example, is $40.
[05:11] <hendrixski> kitche, so you're saying d is for directory?  so I shouldn't have created a directory it should be a flat file?
[05:11] <derenrich> i forget, how do I know what version of ubuntu I am running from the terminal?
[05:11] <mghelich> can anybody here help me with my errors on Winecfg?????
[05:11] <labradors> BT would be the most reliable way for this set up.
[05:11] <OldPink> Dante123... Click Resize/Move
[05:11] <berent> labradors : i wonder Honduras is so backward!!! or are you simply crafting out
[05:11] <yurimxpxman2> how can I kick someone with my registered username on IRC?
[05:11] <pike__> labradors: geez. are you on a mountain in tibet or something?
[05:12] <Frogzoo> sarthor: add in /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider  "defaultroute"
[05:12] <kitche> hendrixski: it should eb a directory but if you deleted the folder then how do you know what the permissions should be?
[05:12] <hendrixski> W9ZEB, good point.. sorry... I just remember that when I did my upgrade I used it and it was flawless, and some friends who were like "I can do it myself" had issues like you wouldn't believe....
[05:12] <berent> darenrich : lsb_releaste -a
[05:12] <berent> darenrich : lsb_release -a
[05:12] <Frogzoo> sarthor: that should give you a default route when ppp comes up
[05:12] <hendrixski> kitche, I ran ls -l on another computer I have
[05:12] <W9ZEB> hendrixski: nod nod....
[05:12] <labradors> berent, it's an odd mix here.  Some things you would not expect to find are easy to get.  Other things that you WOULD expect can be just about unknown.
[05:12] <kitche> hendrixski: ok what is the octal code I can give you the numeric code for it
[05:12] <sarthor> Frogzoo, Bundles of thanks brother
[05:12] <hendrixski> kitche, I guess I can try to copy it from the other computer :-/ hhhmmmm
[05:12] <Dante123> OldPink...I didn't see those options on the screen as button.....do I click on the ntfs partition and then right click or look for those option under the menu bar....or do they come up after clicking edit partition
[05:13] <W9ZEB> more specifically my problem is....  When doing:  apt-get -f install
[05:13] <mghelich> Problem with aconfigurin audio in wine...anybody can help?
[05:13] <Frogzoo> sarthor: yw
[05:13] <labradors> Remember: this is the second poorest country in the Western hemisphere, after Haiti.
[05:13] <Frogzoo> sarthor: you probly also want "replacedefaultroute"
[05:13] <ChuckyNo1> I love Ubuntu
[05:13] <kitche> hendrixski: but anyways you lost all of the packages that you installed if you deleted the archieve folder they are still installed you just lost the .deb's for them
[05:13] <ChuckyNo1> byebye
[05:13] <derenrich> thanks
[05:13] <OldPink> Dante123. Right click it in the list below, then look for Resize/Move
[05:13] <hendrixski> kitche I would need it to be  -rw-r----- but I've tried a bunch of numbers and can't figure it out
[05:13] <W9ZEB> I get an error saying, dpkg: error processing courier-authdaemon (--remove):  package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal
[05:13] <sarthor> Frogzoo, OK.. am checking that,
[05:13] <Dante123> okay thanks
[05:14] <Jen> can I add specific settings for at "display" when I use VNC to connect remotely to my pc?
[05:14] <berent> labradors : then burn a iso image onto a cd/dvd and take it
[05:14] <hendrixski> kitche, oh... I can re-download them worst comes to worse, right?  in case I'd need to dpkg -reconfigure anything
[05:14] <Jen> ie now I connect to display 0, but the resolution is rather high
[05:14] <OldPink> :) Glad I could help, Dante123
[05:14] <labradors> That's what I will probably do.  Was trying to determin if an ISO were available via BitTorrent.
[05:14] <yurimxpxman2> how can I kick someone using my registered nick in IRC?
[05:15] <berent> !download