 Wait what?
 I'm confused
[00:00] <ubptgbot> <Michael Liu> @Fuseteam [I'm confused], ?
[00:04] <ubptgbot> <Michael Liu> @TotalSonic [Kernel and image is here - I'd suggest getting in touch with the maintainer for …], It's Ok, I just want to wait the official installer, thanks for your help !! 😄
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/kQ8zGiU0.png
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/f3xWTXii.png I feel like someone should change the image, but i have no idea what the wallpaper should be :p
 the default?
 Forgot which is the default :p
 I think 16.04'
 [Edit] I think 16.04's default one?
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/90GfDXPv.png
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/3wlkq31N.png Like this?
 yeah
 but for the screenshot, maybe the app drawer is open
 It says 'home screen' tho
 well that's true … maybe also modify the text … `...showing pinned and running applications`?
 That image is likely from before the scope purge
[05:06] <ubptgbot> <Michael Liu> @Fuseteam [<reply to media>], Cute one !!
 @Michael Liu [Cute one !!], You call that cute? How about this:
[05:07] <ubptgbot> <Michael Liu> @Fuseteam [You call that cute? How about this:], Other User interface ?
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/HexwSS0Z.png
 @Javacookies [well that's true … maybe also modify the text … ...showing pinned and running applic …], Technically its only the pinned applications
 @Javacookies [well that's true … maybe also modify the text … ...showing pinned and running applic …], [Edit] Technically its only the pinned applications tho
[05:08] <ubptgbot> <Michael Liu> Oh I know your meaning 😄
 xD
 sakura-chan
 In another world :3
 https://youtu.be/JsEd3-O8fR8
 @CC_JingOS [https://youtu.be/JsEd3-O8fR8], Nice interface
 thanks
 @Fuseteam [<reply to media>], Cute
[06:10] <ubptgbot> <Michael Liu> @CC_JingOS [https://youtu.be/JsEd3-O8fR8], Nice interface +2
[06:12] <ubptgbot> <Michael Liu> @CC_JingOS [https://youtu.be/JsEd3-O8fR8], I thought them tablet will be a Hot product !!
[06:13] <ubptgbot> <Michael Liu> https://github.com/JingOS-team/JingOS
[06:14] <ubptgbot> <Michael Liu> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/03/jing-os-0-8-release
 @CC_JingOS [https://youtu.be/JsEd3-O8fR8], This video looks like it has been slightly speeded up.
 @TotalSonic [This video looks like it has been slightly speeded up.], What's the meanning of speed up?
 Hardware accelerated?
 the video plays faster like The Flash or Quicksilver 😄
 Is there simple way to update python3 used in terminal?
[07:24] <ubptgbot> António was added by: António
 Good morning, is there any bug in the OS for xioami redmi note 7?
 When installing the operating system *
 @CC_JingOS [What's the meanning of speed up?], Recorded at 100% and playing back at 110%. The finger movements look unnaturally a little fast to me.  What chip is the device using? How much ram? Is the display running at a 90Mhz or higher refresh rate?
 Happy Easter 🐣
[08:06] <ubptgbot> Tommi Laukkanen was added by: Tommi Laukkanen
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/aXa614Em.png
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/1OUgRjHe.png
 @Fuseteam [Forgot which is the default :p], @javacookies ^^ Allan's wallpapers wouldbe nice for screenshots.
[08:42] <ubptgbot> fcarp10 was added by: fcarp10
 @CC_JingOS [What's the meanning of speed up?], The video recording is played at a higher speed than normal, just to give the impression of "snappy", which is at least misleading... And again: what does your OS has to do with UT?
 I am installing ubuntu on my xiaomi redmi note 7 phone and is waiting for the phone. is it normal to take a long time?
 (Photo, 793x626) https://irc.ubports.com/8BuhJUHD.png
 @António [<reply to media>], nope
 try running as root
 i sometimes have to do
 ok, i will try it, thanks
 @Danfro [@javacookies ^^ Allan's wallpapers wouldbe nice for screenshots.], But the icon isn't official yet is it?
 @Fuseteam [But the icon isn't official yet is it?], Not 100% sure. @cibersheep might know?
 @Fuseteam [But the icon isn't official yet is it?], for lomiri? it is afaik
[10:06] <ubptgbot> S P was added by: S P
[10:06] <ubptgbot> <S P> How to install WhatsApp??
 @Fuseteam [<reply to media>], Yep. This is default wallpaper
 @Danfro [Not 100% sure. @cibersheep might know?], Was that the question? ^_^ just flew by
 @amyosx [for lomiri? it is afaik], That's not lomiri's icon xD
 @cibersheep [Was that the question? ^_^ just flew by], Is ut's icon official yet
 @cibersheep [Was that the question? ^_^ just flew by], [Edit] Is ubuntu touch's icon official yet?
 @Fuseteam [That's not lomiri's icon xD], its on lomiri group
 so i assumed it was
 @Fuseteam [Is ubuntu touch's icon official yet?], Not yet. We use Ubuntu icon
 @amyosx [its on lomiri group], Yeah, i know. There's an story behind that xD
 *and the logo in the wallpaper is not the proposed eather
 @alera_on [<reply to media>], If we are talking about this one :)
 @cibersheep [Not yet. We use Ubuntu icon], Right, we were talking about how the wikipedia article image needs a refresh and which wallpaper to use
 @cibersheep [*and the logo in the wallpaper is not the proposed eather], Wait really?
 I think for now, use the default in the device. We can change it later
 @cibersheep [Yep. This is default wallpaper], So this
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/aHlloB4r.svg
 (Photo, 487x445) https://irc.ubports.com/qGw6YvAx.png
 Which is the one shown in the Lomiri group ;)
 (Photo, 800x800) https://irc.ubports.com/wmUx1P5w.png
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/Vpsvsr8O.svg
 @Fuseteam [<reply to media>], :)
 Ushio
 @cibersheep [Which is the one shown in the Lomiri group ;)], Oh the difference is subtle, i didn't notice
 @Fuseteam [Oh the difference is subtle, i didn't notice], ^__^
 @Cerealesgratis [Ushio], Haha yeah. when i found the pic, i couldn't resist
 @alera_on [<reply to media>], Are you proposing this as a logo perchance, alan?
 @Fuseteam [Are you proposing this as a logo perchance, alan?], To separate Lomiri and UT and make each one distinguishable without necessarily linking the Ubuntu brand, I would transform the current Lomiri brand into the UT brand and I would let the use of the UU logo on Lomiri be released.
 it took 3 years and $300K to make that logo 😂
 @alera_on [To separate Lomiri and UT and make each one distinguishable without necessarily …], Lomiri has a proposed logo already
 @alera_on [To separate Lomiri and UT and make each one distinguishable without necessarily …], So you're proposing to use the the ububtu unity logo for lomiri?
 @Fuseteam [So you're proposing to use the the ububtu unity logo for lomiri?], Let's be honest: Lomiri is Unity, but in version 8, regardless of which brand is created, this fact cannot be changed, people know him by that name (Unity 8) because he is and was intended from the beginning to  be the next version of Unity 7.
 @cibersheep [Lomiri has a proposed logo already], No new applicants accepted?
 @Fuseteam [No new applicants accepted?], I have this one:
 @alera_on [Let's be honest: Lomiri is Unity, but in version 8, regardless of which brand is …], I suppose so
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/yshbegEL.png
 @alera_on [Let's be honest: Lomiri is Unity, but in version 8, regardless of which brand is …], The thing is, even with Unity 7 people looked for game development software. … Unity 8 is not Unity 7, was going to be a replacement, yes. It's designed with the same UI in mind, yes. But it's not based in the same technology. … But linking
[10:32] <ubptgbot> lomiri to Unity is giving the idea of going backwards.
 @alera_on [Let's be honest: Lomiri is Unity, but in version 8, regardless of which brand is …], [Edit] The thing is, even with Unity 7 people looked for game development software. … Unity 8 is not Unity 7, was going to be a replacement, yes. It's designed with the same UI in mind, yes. But it's not based in the same technology. … But l
[10:32] <ubptgbot> inking lomiri to Unity is giving the idea of going backwards in time.
 @Fuseteam [No new applicants accepted?], Logo discussions are looooong.  … I'm not against new designs. Are we looking for a lomiri own image here? Or we want to look like other existing distro? … What's the path you want to go? I think that would be important to start exploring the path
 @cibersheep [The thing is, even with Unity 7 people looked for game development software. … Uni …], I disagree.  Both UBPorts and U7MT have in hand what enshrined the identity of Ubuntu, which until today the main version tries its best to bring it using the GNOME Shell.  And no, it's not a delay, because if it were, there wouldn't be me
[10:36] <ubptgbot> mbers of other flavors of Ubuntu like Ubuntu MATE trying to look the same on their desktops with other DEs.
 @cibersheep [Logo discussions are looooong.  … I'm not against new designs. Are we looking for …], It appears allan goal to make one identity for both
 @alera_on [I disagree.  Both UBPorts and U7MT have in hand what enshrined the identity of U …], I don't think I explained correctly. Not a delay, a go back in time. We want to move forward into lomiri. Adopting the logo of an existing Unity7 distro would look like we are going back to Unity7. Nothing wrong with it, just this is not wha
[10:38] <ubptgbot> t we are doing
 What about if that distro adopts lomiri when lomiri is ready? XD
 @cibersheep [I don't think I explained correctly. Not a delay, a go back in time. We want to …], Well, everyone wonders if UU is going to use Lomiri (Unity 8) so, I don't 100% agree with that statement.
 @alera_on [Well, everyone wonders if UU is going to use Lomiri (Unity 8) so, I don't 100% a …], because...
 @alera_on [<reply to media>], Just my personal opinion: I don't like this icon as much as the other one. The purple is quite dark and the hexagons somehow break the smoothness. Just a feeling. Not considering all the implicated meanings.
 @Fuseteam [What about if that distro adopts lomiri when lomiri is ready? XD], I defend that.  If this happens, we will be serving a dream of users and the community and at the same time joining efforts to focus on the desktop and mobile.
 But again, this discussion should move to UX group.
 Again? Tis the first time you said that today :p
 Gtg o/
 Guys, we need our own identity so as not to be confused with the main version of Ubuntu.  That's why purple was decisive when I created the arts for UU.
 @Fuseteam [Again? Tis the first time you said that today :p], We had the icon discussion here some weeks before iirc The original question of the icon being official has vewn answered here.
 (Photo, 1280x800) https://irc.ubports.com/rCVXh8xB.png
 @alera_on [<reply to media>], That's how I imagine the future Ubuntu Unity with Unity 8 (Lomiri).
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/iCqL8lYB.png
 @alera_on [That's how I imagine the future Ubuntu Unity with Unity 8 (Lomiri).], This is very nice for Unity7 (Ubuntu Unity). Well done
 @cibersheep [This is very nice for Unity7 (Ubuntu Unity). Well done], Thanks.  This is a concept.  I did another one last year and well, this icon is original for Lomiri too, in addition to the current variant used in Unity 7 which is the official logo of the project.
 @alera_on [Thanks.  This is a concept.  I did another one last year and well, this icon is …], lomiri has already a proposed icon
 Ok so here a story from the past. Listen and learn :) ...
 A while back ago, lets say it was 4 years, I am not 100% sure, soon after Canonical dropped UT support, we proposed that Unity8 should maybe be maintained by an external wider group of people and community, not the core phone team only.
 And really, some volunteers stepped up. They declared they want to do this, and first started being very busy around a new name, logos etc...
 The new name was Yunit and the icon was... well.. a bit rough :)
 We let them do, its a free world, whatever, everybody should have their chance. Yet the first commits were just replacing Unity8 name everywhere with Yunit, and inserting the new icon.
 Soon after they started to fight with each other about was comes after the new name :) aaand you guess it, the project died
 So for me there is one thing we should never forget, it is not as important as you think what is the icon, the name the artwork, thats nice, but the real identity comes from a strong community collaborating and communicating
 A good icon can do nothing if people cannot work togehter.
 I understand.....
 it would be nice to have one though especially for the backplate of the Pinephone 😛
[11:31] <ubptgbot> erny_che_ge was added by: erny_che_ge
 @Flohack [A good icon can do nothing if people cannot work togehter.], Listen to the old man. There's wisdom in there.
 Has anyone happened, the xiaomi phone does not turn on?
[12:46] <ubptgbot> <Bart Aki> How can I check memory usage? Morph sometimes crashes with  "out of memory" log :/
 after installing ubuntu gave black screen
 @Danfro [But again, this discussion should move to UX group.], they were talking about it there, and wanted ubports devs to patch unity7 :/
 @mateosalta [they were talking about it there, and wanted ubports devs to patch unity7 :/], I know. I read it there too. ☺
 Lomiri is nothing like Unity, beyond the basic design layout when running in windowed mode and common keybindings. The rebranding is absolutely necessary for Lomiri to move forward.
 Any developers need a One Plus One? I've got too many phones since my Pinephone arrived. UK only as I can't face the Brexit form filling.
[16:48] <ubptgbot> DarkPlayerr was added by: DarkPlayerr
 @dave1152000 [Any developers need a One Plus One? I've got too many phones since my Pinephone …], I'm located in Canada and shipping would be pretty pricey
 (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/00xJy07r.png
 Latest "home" screenshot - I love tge Wallpaper app for finding great hi-res images for this.
 [Edit] Latest "home" screenshot - I love the Wallpaper app for finding great hi-res images for this.
 [Edit] Latest "home" screenshot - I love the Wallpapers app for finding great hi-res images for this.
 @TotalSonic [<reply to media>], Nice
 @yaygya [I'm located in Canada and shipping would be pretty pricey], you already have like 5 UT phones xD
 i have 1 ut phone
 1 tablet
 @amyosx [you already have like 5 UT phones xD], he has 4 iirc
 lol still loads
 nexus 4 nexus 5 pixel 1 moto g 1
 my ut phone is a bq e4.5
 @DarkPlayerr [nexus 4 nexus 5 pixel 1 moto g 1], Moto G2*
 @yaygya [Moto G2*], And that port bootloops
 My Nexus 5 meanwhile is half dead
 So just my N4 and Pixel
 Can anyone suggest me the apps i should use in ubuntu touch for my nexus 5
 I am planning to make it my daily driver
 authenticator-ng
 @akshithsbalan [Can anyone suggest me the apps i should use in ubuntu touch for my nexus 5], There is no 'should', it depends on your wants and needs. I use my OpO as a daily driver but I doubt that your preferences are the same as mine.
 @akshithsbalan [Can anyone suggest me the apps i should use in ubuntu touch for my nexus 5], uttweak tool, uvolman, well just look at the tools and top rated catagories section :)
 @akshithsbalan [Can anyone suggest me the apps i should use in ubuntu touch for my nexus 5], What tasks do you wish to do with it? What mobile apps are using previously? Answer those questions and then we can better suggest solutions for these needs.
[18:12] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> I sold three devices with UT And  earned $ 30. As soon as the payment goes, 10 goes to the team. Two beers is not much but... happy :)
 hey, its 8 if you get from supermarket :)
 12 pack of PBR anyway
 Redmi note 9
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 @Danfro [We had the icon discussion here some weeks before iirc The original question of …], whoops should've said "today"
[21:17] <ubptgbot> <Edwin Nicholson> Musk giveaway crypto! its amazing news! … [https://twitter.com/EllMusk/status/1102333567038828544](https://bit.ly/3mo8Xmp)
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[23:18] <ubptgbot> Donnie Dauphin WD1F was added by: Donnie Dauphin WD1F
[23:21] <ubptgbot> <Donnie Dauphin WD1F> I have a Oneplus 3T model A3000, am in the US, running UT. A box that says L keeps appearing and dis-apearing near the signal strength indicator. Is this indicating an issue?  When I make a call the box changes to an H. Thanks!
[23:42] <adamd> My Oneplus 3T A3000 is showing a box with L near the signal strength meter. It keeps appearing and disappearing. Does this indicate an issue?  When I make a call the L changes to an H.
 @Donnie Dauphin WD1F [I have a Oneplus 3T model A3000, am in the US, running UT. A box that says L kee …], I believe that is your data signal going from LTE to HSPA
[23:50] <ubptgbot> <Donnie Dauphin WD1F> I am curious if its a setting issue such as apn settings?
[23:51] <ubptgbot> <Donnie Dauphin WD1F> I am at home, close to a tower with LTE and near full signal strength. Not sure why its not LTE. Thanks for your reply.


[01:06] <Kush131> Hello all, anyone have any advice on Driver Manager hanging on Collecting info on system?
[01:09] <YankDownUnder> Kush131: You can test from the terminal instead..."sudo ubuntu-drivers list" => as well, you can see the possible command options with "sudo ubuntu-drivers --help"
[01:12] <Kush131> Excellent, thank you!
[01:13] <YankDownUnder> Kush131: Peace!
[01:36] <mparillo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libqapt/+bug/1530523
[01:55] <Blue1> !paste | blueone
[01:57] <Blue1> How do I get rid of the device notifier: http://imgur.com/XFbRuaw short of logging out/back in?
[01:58] <YankDownUnder> Blue1: Unpin it. click in the upper right hand corner of the "widget", then click somewhere else. It will go away. Easy done.
[01:59] <Blue1> okay let me try...
[02:02] <Blue1> Hmm....let me try again....no disappearence
[02:03] <YankDownUnder> The little square in the upper right hand corner of the widge dialogue...it has a "pin" symbol...click that, that either pins it to the desktop, or UNpins it from the desktop.
[02:04] <Blue1> okay....
[02:04] <Blue1> let me try again...
[02:05] <Blue1> when I clicked it, the pin turned blue - but it is still present.
[02:05] <Blue1> so different than kde in 14.04
[02:06] <YankDownUnder> click it, then click once on the desktop. The "dialogue" should go away.
[02:06] <Blue1> okay let me try clicking the desktop...
[02:07] <Blue1> had to do it twice - but it finally disappeared - thank you.
[02:07] <YankDownUnder> Peace, you're welcome. Enjoy.
[02:08] <Blue1> thank you....now once last question - is there anyway to arange items on the taskbar?
[02:09] <YankDownUnder> Blue1: You click+hold them and drag them where you wish them to be. Takes some practice if you're not used to it...
[02:11] <Blue1> I am wanting to move the virtual desktop switcher from left side to right side.  panel is unlocked -
[02:12] <YankDownUnder> Drag it and move it.
[02:12] <Blue1> let me try another icon
[02:12] <YankDownUnder> There is also a "widget" that can be used instead of the "virtual desktops" on the panel...all by choice...
[02:13] <Blue1> no nothing moves - let me sanity check that the panel is unlocked
[02:14] <Blue1> yup unlocked -- but I can;'t move anything.
[02:14] <YankDownUnder> right-click, unlock, move
[02:17] <Blue1> Here's what I am doing.   Right click/Panel Options/Panel Settings/More Settings/  and ensure unlocked....yup it is...I than left mouse click, and try to drag - but nothing....
[02:18] <YankDownUnder> Works here...not sure what to tell you...and from experience, I can only say, "If it doesn't work THAT way, try a different way..." :)
[02:19] <Blue1> Okay but that is the right procedure yes?
[02:23] <Blue1> ahh this made it work:  https://www.kubuntuforums.net/showthread.php?57416-How-to-move-icons-on-the-panel-to-the-left-amp-how-to-get-system-tray-back-to-right!!  (left out a step about hitting the thing at the extreme right first)
[03:36] <Nani_Dragon> evening
[03:37] <user|63252> My pc is slow
[03:38] <user|63252> Hello
[06:05] <yvear> on Kubuntu 16.04 how do I make the desktop icons' background transparent?
[06:07] <valorie> they aren't already transparent?
[06:07]  * valorie is already on 16.10
[06:09] <soee> i doubt you can
[06:09] <soee> *if we talk about text  under icons ?
[06:11] <yvear> valorie, soee, http://imgur.com/D20nMF5
[06:12] <yvear> default
[06:12] <soee> this is Foler View widget no ?
[06:12] <soee> what you want it to switch your desktop to Folder View mode imo ;)
[06:13] <yvear> soee, how?
[06:14] <soee> unlock widgets -> right click on the desktop -> Desktop Settings -> Layout [Folder view]
[06:16] <yvear> soee, you're a pro ty
[06:21] <soee> np :)
[08:20] <jmzc> hello
[08:21] <jmzc> I'm trying to find plasma-scriptengine-python package for Kubuntu 16.04 and i cant , how i can execute python based plasmoids ?
[08:29] <EllaStique_>      /server chat.freenode.net
[10:58] <Guest21311> how to stop the icon jump effect when i open a new app
[10:59] <Guest21311> does anybody  know????????????????
[11:00] <soee> Guest21311: hiho
[11:01] <soee> System Settings -> Applications -> Launch Feedback
[11:01] <soee> http://i.imgur.com/hXut6CQ.png
[11:07] <stephen__> how to stop the icon jump effect when i open an app
[11:14] <stephen_> has everyone upgraded to plasma 5.6.5?
[11:38] <Dat> how can I create custom keyboard shortcuts
[11:45] <lethu> Dat: System Settings > Shortcuts > Custom Shortcuts
[12:13] <paranoidabhi> hi guys!
[12:13] <paranoidabhi> Please help with this http://askubuntu.com/questions/795169/kde-slow-boot-on-kubuntu-16-04
[12:13] <paranoidabhi> Stuck at it for long
[12:30] <paranoidabhi> any ideas folks?
[12:34] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:39] <paranoidabhi> hey
[12:42] <OerHeks> paranoidabhi, just curious, what is Sda6 ?
[12:43] <OerHeks> there is a fsck too<EMAIL_ADDRESS>= same sda6 ?
[12:44] <paranoidabhi> OerHeks, fdisk gives me /dev/sda6   924364800<PHONE_NUMBER> 961902592 458.7G Linux filesystem
[12:45] <paranoidabhi> OerHeks, does it provide any more information?
[12:45] <OerHeks> can you paste.ubuntu.com the output of fdisk -l ?
[12:46] <paranoidabhi> OerHeks, sure http://paste.ubuntu.com/18975286/
[12:47] <paranoidabhi> I am using a dual boot system with Windows 10
[12:52] <OerHeks> that would be gpt, fdisk does not show GPT corrrect, use: sudo parted -l
[12:59] <paranoidabhi> OerHeks, please check http://paste.ubuntu.com/18976214/
[14:10] <hazamonzo> Hey folks
[14:11] <hazamonzo> How do I go about disabling Baloo? Its stuck eating 100% CPU :(
[14:13] <mparillo> Have you tried: https://community.kde.org/Baloo/Configuration#Enable_.2F_Disable
[14:16] <hazamonzo> mparillo: I have sir
[14:16] <hazamonzo> There is no baloofilerc for me though
[14:16] <hazamonzo> only a baloorc
[14:16] <hazamonzo> which contains simply
[14:16] <hazamonzo> [Akonadi]
[14:16] <hazamonzo> agentIndexingVersion=4
[14:19] <mparillo> Arch (https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=193169) suggests: $ balooctl disable and a re-boot.
[14:21] <mparillo> But I am only googling. Baloo never gave me a problem on Kubuntu, not even on an atom powered netbook with a spinning drive and only 1GB of RAM.
[14:21] <hazamonzo> mparillo: noted
[14:49] <marahin> Hello. Is there any nice solution that would allow me to use external full-hd monitor, plugged into a laptop with UHD screen?
[14:49] <marahin> I have set up the interface scaling, but it's not per-display: so everything looks enormous on the external screen
[15:28] <stuarte9> Hi, could someone please point me in the direction of a good(!) tutorial on how to set up a wireless connection to the internet using Kubuntu 14.04 & Network Manager ?
[15:31] <lethu> stuarte9: your wireless networks should show up as soon as you plug your wireless device, it's pretty straightforward
[15:32] <lethu> stuarte9: given that your device is supported
[15:32] <lethu> and properly detected
[15:33] <stuarte9> @lethu: Currently I'm having to use an ethernet connection to my land line.
[15:33] <lethu> stuarte9: what's your wireless adapter?
[15:34] <stuarte9> @lethu@ The router is a Technicolor TG582n
[15:35] <lethu> stuarte9: yes but you need a wireless adapter on your PC in order to connect to it via wifi
[15:35] <yvear> how do I install Minuet?
[15:36] <stuarte9> @lethu: The Network Manager icon in the system tray shows only the ethernet connection, even though I've added a wireless connection. I'm just not sure that I have filled in all the fields correctly.
[15:36] <stuarte9> @lethu: the router is capable of both wired and wireless operation.
[15:39] <stuarte9> @lethu: I've tried doing a web search on this but there is not much available that is clear.
[15:41] <stuarte9> @lethu: The user guide that came with it is target at both IOS & MS. No Linux support.
[15:41] <chinmoy> hey all,how can i create a .desktop file for a device?
[15:43] <lethu> stuarte9: what's the model name?
[15:44] <lethu> stuarte9: is it a dongle or a pci adapter?
[15:45] <stuarte9> @lethu: the model  is tg582n. it is an external router.
[15:45] <lethu> stuarte9: I am not talking about the router
[15:46] <stuarte9> @lethu: sorry I misunderstood. what are you speaking of ?
[15:47] <lethu> stuarte9: the wireless adapter on your pc
[15:49] <stuarte9> @lethu: ahh, now I understand. I don't have a wireless adapter on the pc. as I said earlier, this router is capable of wireless operation.
[15:49] <lethu> stuarte9: it is not sufficient, you need a wireless device connected to the pc in order to communicate with the router wirelessly
[15:50] <lethu> stuarte9: a wifi usb dongle or a wifi pci card
[15:50] <lethu> stuarte9: one that is supported by linux
[15:52] <stuarte9> @lethu: now i understand. the router is connected to the pc using an ethernet wire. I wanted to use the router to connect to the i-net wirelessly. this router has that capability.
[15:52] <lethu> stuarte9: yes as I said you can't connect with router alone
[15:53] <stuarte9> @lethu: I just don't know how to set up network manager to use the router that way. I'm not sure how to fill in the various fields in n/manager.
[15:54] <lethu> stuarte9: you need something like this -> https://www.amazon.com/D-Link-Wireless-Network-Adapter-DWA-131/dp/B002PD61Y4?tag=duckduckgo-d-20
[15:57] <stuarte9> @lethu: I see. So, if I had one of those, surely i would not need my current router, which is connected to the i/net through the land lins, is that right ?
[15:57] <stuarte9> line
[15:58] <lethu> stuarte9: you would still need the router but without the ethernet cable, you would connect with it via wifi
[15:58] <lethu> stuarte9: also that dongle I linked isn't the best one available, it doesn't come with plug and play support on linux
[16:01] <stuarte9> @lethu: I understand that using the dongle would replace the ethernet cable. How do I replace the the wire that connects my router to my land line so that I'm connecting to the i/net wirelessly ?
[16:02] <lethu> stuarte9: you can't
[16:03] <lethu> stuarte9: you can't replace the wire that connects your router to the landline
[16:04] <stuarte9> @lethu: I wanted to replicate the type of i/net connection that mobile phone have to the i/net.
[16:04] <plusEV> stuarte9: You need a 3G/4G router
[16:04] <plusEV> something likethis
[16:04] <plusEV> https://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-MR3020-Wireless-Portable-Router/dp/B00634PLTW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1468166627&sr=8-1&keywords=4g+router
[16:04] <lethu> ^
[16:08] <plusEV> stuarte9: If you check your phone you might actually have that built into your phone by default if you have a newer phone. Look for an option to chare internet connection on your phone.
[16:08] <plusEV> chare = share
[16:09] <stuarte9> @plusEV & lethu: I'm using an equivalent of that device.
[16:10] <stuarte9> This router is capable of handling wpa & wpa2 amonst other things.
[16:11] <plusEV> stuarte9: do you have your phone connected to the WiFi now on your home router?
[16:14] <plusEV> stuarte9: if you tell use what sort of computer name and model and router name and model it will be a lot easier to help you.
[16:15] <stuarte9> @plusEV: the land line is currently connected to the router.
[16:16] <plusEV> stuarte9: I need the brand and model number of both your router and computer to be able to help you further.
[16:17] <stuarte9> @plusEv: ok the router is a Technicolor TG582n
[16:20] <stuarte9> the pc is a cambridge flite
[16:20] <stuarte9> sorry flite = elite
[16:23] <plusEV> ok buy call your ISP and ask for a free upgrade or tell them you will change ISP if you do not get one for free. if they want a lot of money buy a default D-link with wireless and connect it to your router.
[16:23] <plusEV> when it comes to your computer. that is not a model number  :P
[16:26] <stuarte9> @plusEV: I've checked round the back of the system box, there isn't a model number :(
[16:27] <plusEV> k I was  wrong about your router. it has WiFI and you do not need an upgrade.
[16:29] <stuarte9> @plusEV: fair enough. So what do I need to set in network manager to get it(!) to use the router in wireless mode ?
[16:30] <plusEV> stuarte9: Your router has a button on the black panel to enable/disable WiFi.
[16:31] <plusEV> stuarte9: If you have a laptop computer that might be the case as well that you have a physical button you have to push on the side or on the front of your computer.
[16:32] <stuarte9> @plusEV: there is only one button anywhere on the router and that is the on/off button. The pc is a tower system.
[16:33] <stuarte9> @plusEV: I know that some modern PCs have a button to enable networking but this is an old P4 system.
[16:34] <plusEV> stuarte9: then you need a WiFi dongle thingy that is compatible with Linux like lethu told you earlier.
[16:34] <plusEV> stuarte9: but can you even connect to your WiFi with your phone? You do own a cellphone right?
[16:35] <stuarte9> @plusEV: er... no, I don't own a cellphone. just the land line.
[16:36] <plusEV> stuarte9: Then test with a cellphone or laptop of a friend first to make sure you can connect to the WiFi. Take note of the name they connect to. the SSID. That is usually ona  sticker under your router. You need to input that into networkmanager after you have installed the dongle that you need to buy.
[16:37] <plusEV> more than that I cannot help you. other than linking you a manual to your router.
[16:37] <plusEV> http://help.demon.net/files/2013/03/TG582n-User-Guide.pdf
[16:37] <plusEV> Good Luck
[16:38] <stuarte9> @plusEV: thanks for all your help it is much appreciated. I've learned a good bit about this wifi thing in the process.
[16:38] <stuarte9> Thanks again.
[16:38] <plusEV> stuarte9: You are welcome.
[16:46] <MrSassyPants> Is there anything kde that can operate cpufreq-utils ?
[17:42] <marahin> Hello. Is there any nice solution that would allow me to use external full-hd monitor, plugged into a laptop with UHD screen?
[17:42] <marahin>  I have set up the interface scaling, but it's not per-display: so everything looks enormous on the external screen
[19:42] <zsoltsandor> hi there
[19:44] <zsoltsandor> what value should i set in kdeglobals under the KFileDialog Settings for double click selection in the file picker? SingleClick=false under KDE is not respected by the file picker.
[20:08] <Guest45324> good evening
[20:08] <CodingCo1kie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19010719/
[20:08] <CodingCo1kie> hey guys im trying to install git, but then i got errors with my locales
[20:10] <Guest45324> i'm trying to install 16.04 with encrypted home. when i choose in manual partition menu "physical volume for encryption", i'm not asked for a password on my next click the installer crashes. any known workarounds?
[20:12] <Guest45324> may be related to this bug from 15.10: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1510731
[20:17] <Guest45324> this is exactly what happened: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1509820
[20:24] <A5334-Guest> Hey
[20:47] <CodingCo1kie> hey i am trying to install git on my kubuntu 16.04 machine
[20:47] <CodingCo1kie> but i get errors while trying to install it
[20:48] <CodingCo1kie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19013362/
[20:50] <Guest19562> good evening
[20:51] <Guest19562> how can i install 16.04 with a luks-encrypted home?
[21:06] <yogi> heloo what best alternative konsole app?
[21:08] <yogi> what alternative terminal app?
[21:10] <lethu> yogi: eterm
[21:12] <yogi> ok
[21:13] <yogi> ho to customize kubuntu 16?
[21:14] <Ashareth> yakuake terminator
[21:14] <Ashareth> guake
[21:16] <yogi> oke about that i choose terminator
[21:16] <valorie> yakuake ftw!
[21:16] <yogi> and now, how to customize kubuntu 16?
[21:20] <plusEV> yogi: type settings
[21:22] <plusEV> start messing around with that. then right click your bottom panel and unlock widgets. play around with all of that but do not click remove this panel. that should get you started.
[22:01] <user|1396> hello
[22:02] <user|1396> i launch this command in konsole
[22:02] <user|1396> sudo apt install git
[22:02] <user|1396> and don't work
[22:54] <Bundestrojaner> hi
[22:55] <Bundestrojaner> just installed 16.04, the driver manager says "collecting information" for more than 10 minutes...
[22:55] <Bundestrojaner> is that a bug?
[22:55] <ahoneybun> Bundestrojaner: it's known bug
[22:55] <Bundestrojaner> ahoneybun: thx. any workarounds?
[22:57] <ahoneybun> not at the moment
[22:57] <ahoneybun> you can install the drivers though konsole on your own if needed
[22:58] <Bundestrojaner> sudo ubuntu-drivers devices  worked
[22:58] <Bundestrojaner> thx
[23:16] <valorie> ahoneybun: when I do that, I get:
[23:17] <valorie> nvidia-361
[23:17] <valorie> intel-microcode
[23:17] <valorie> nvidia-340
[23:17] <valorie> how do I know which to choose?
[23:17] <valorie> I've not done it because I'm not sure how to install and uninstall if it's the wrong choice
[23:18] <valorie> too long since I had to mess with drivers
 Nvidia site can tell you based on what card you have
 What do you have @Valoriez
[23:21] <valorie> uh
[23:21] <valorie> how do I find out?
 lspci
[23:21] <valorie> something pretty new
[23:22] <valorie> http://paste.ubuntu.com/19026844/
[23:22] <ahoneybun> your on a laptop
[23:22] <ahoneybun> GeForce GTX 870M
[23:22] <ahoneybun> M = Mobile
[23:22] <valorie> yes
[23:22] <valorie> Sysinfo for 'valorie-GT60-2PC': Running inside KDE Plasma 5.6.3 on Ubuntu 16.10 (Yakkety Yak) powered by Linux 4.4.0-23-generic, CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4810MQ CPU @ 2.80GHz at 3282-3588/3800 MHz, RAM: 23659/24030 MB, Storage: 308/967 GB, 311 procs, 364.51h up
[23:23] <ahoneybun> most likely the same driver on my laptop
[23:23] <ahoneybun> 367.27 is latest official
[23:23] <ahoneybun> for that card
[23:23] <valorie> you have to add a special ppa for that, right?
[23:24] <ahoneybun> well the older one will work
[23:24] <valorie> right, everything works now
[23:24] <ahoneybun> there is a ppa for newer like 367
[23:24] <valorie> which is why I've not changed anything
[23:24] <ahoneybun> not search about 16.10 though
[23:24] <ahoneybun> *sure about
[23:25] <ahoneybun> looks like 361 is latest in yakkety
[23:25] <ahoneybun> without ppa
[23:26] <valorie> how do I tell what I'm running now?
[23:26] <ahoneybun> your most likely running the open source one
[23:26] <ahoneybun> nouveda or something like that
[23:26] <valorie> probably
[23:26] <valorie> nouveau
[23:26] <ahoneybun> unless you have the intel on the board as well
[23:26] <ahoneybun> which it might be using the intel driver
[23:27] <valorie> I think it has both
[23:27] <ahoneybun> one of those like mine
[23:27] <valorie> but don't need both
[23:27] <ahoneybun> dual graphics
[23:27] <valorie> since I don't really game
[23:27] <ahoneybun> well the thing with that
[23:27] <ahoneybun> not just for gaming
[23:27] <ahoneybun> any heavy demanding thing
[23:27] <ahoneybun> video editing for one
[23:27] <valorie> ah
[23:28] <ahoneybun> but intel does the job 99%
[23:28] <ahoneybun> if not 100 for a lot of peopl
[23:28] <ahoneybun> *people
[23:28] <ahoneybun> unless your doing something like that the intel should be fine or the open source one
[23:29] <ahoneybun> if everything works, don't touch it I guess
[23:29] <ahoneybun> valorie: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx
[23:29] <ahoneybun> can search for driver names and such
[23:30] <ahoneybun> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
[23:30] <ahoneybun> yep dual graphics
[23:30] <valorie> thanks, ahoneybun
[23:30] <ahoneybun> np
[23:30] <valorie> the easiest is sometimes the best: do nothing
[23:30] <valorie> lol
[23:31] <ahoneybun> lol


[03:50] <pitti> Good morning
[07:59] <Laney> hello!
[08:01] <qengho> 'sup.
[08:02] <pitti> hey Laney, how are you?
[08:02] <pitti> bonjour seb128 !
[08:03] <Laney> hey pitti
[08:04] <Laney> Enjoying the Dutch hospitality :-)
[08:04] <Laney> good to see people again
[08:04] <Laney> how are you?
[08:05] <seb128> salut pitti
[08:05] <seb128> had a good w.e?
[08:05] <pitti> I'm great, thanks! nothing special, just jumped out of a plane :-P
[08:05] <pitti> no, seriously, this was amazing
[08:05] <seb128> where are you going?
[08:05] <pitti> no, literally
[08:05] <qengho> Going? Downward.
[08:06] <pitti> https://plus.google.com/+MartinPitti/posts/LFPgFqdV65Z
[08:06] <pitti> qengho: and very fast that!
[08:07] <qengho> "Just jumped out" sounds like you're typing on the way down.
[08:07] <qengho> ...which, I *imagine*, is hard.
[08:08] <pitti> indeed, there is a slight draft :)
[08:09] <qengho> You're brave. And I don't mean that as a euphamism for "dumb".
[08:09] <pitti> Laney, seb128: happy sprinting! I hope you had some beers last night
[08:09] <seb128> thanks pitti
[08:09] <seb128> "beer"
[08:10] <pitti> seb128: your jetlag must be terrible
[08:10] <seb128> yeah, it was a looong trip
[08:10] <pitti> like, 20 mins on the bike?
[08:10] <seb128> it would be more 45
[08:10] <pitti> OMG
[08:10] <seb128> but we were in north of France for the w.e
[08:10] <seb128> so it was rather a 3 hours drive ;-)
[08:10] <pitti> oh, so actual travel then
[08:11] <seb128> yes, but still an easy one
[09:02] <willcooke> Laney, desrt hikiko please head to the meeting room Van Gogh
[10:23] <xnox> Laney, what was the gsettings key for the unity7 key for the decimal scale factor?
[10:24] <Trevinho> xnox: font or screen?
[10:25] <Trevinho> xnox: for global one is com.ubuntu.user-interface scale-factor though
[10:25] <xnox> that one i think
[10:25] <Trevinho> xnox: and values are so that 8 = 1x.
[10:26] <Trevinho> xnox: so, you've 8 point scaling for each integer.
[10:26] <xnox> Trevinho, very nice. But is unity7 that sets it?
[10:27] <xnox> or.... I'm looking for e.g. 2.38 that i can twiddle manually
[10:27] <xnox> "scale for menu and title bars"
[10:27] <Trevinho> xnox: unity-control-center does
[10:27] <Trevinho> xnox: as for gtk apps scaling is different
[10:28] <Trevinho> xnox: thant's controlled by org.gnome.desktop.interface values, and yeah we hack those too (at unity level)
[10:28] <xnox> Trevinho, hm, i'm looking for something to query of dbus to preset environment variable in the unity8.conf upstart pre-start script
[10:28] <xnox> to have the right dpi.
[10:28] <xnox> *over dbus
[10:28] <Trevinho> xnox: something to be set on pre-install or after user configured?
[10:29] <Trevinho> xnox: err, pre-install.. .I mean pre-user conf
[10:29] <xnox> Trevinho, something that unity7 user configured, and now logs into unity8 session (because they upgraded to 16.10)
[10:29] <xnox> and expect unity8 session to have same scale factor as existing unity7 session.
[10:30] <Trevinho> xnox: ah... ok... Well, u8 should be smarter in using the proper scaling, however... if you want to keep these settings, well... that com.ubuntu.user-interface scale-factor key is the one to query
[10:33] <xnox> Trevinho, for me it has com.ubuntu.user-interface scale-factor {'default': 8, 'HDMI1': 8, 'eDP1': 16, 'eDP-1': 16} ... but is that available when unity7 is not running?!
[10:33]  * xnox ponders how lightdm gets DPI setting for me.
[10:33] <xnox> cause that shows things right.
[11:26] <sil2100> jibel: I didn't browse the whole schedule, but do we have some meeting set for the snappy-CI story?
[11:31] <Trevinho> xnox: yeah, sure... that's always available once set.
[13:27] <qengho> "zesty"
[13:56]  * flocculant is sad at the lack of zebedee ...


[15:32] <balloons> does anyone have experience in combining 2 launchpad teams (and mailing lists?). I'm curious as to how to go about it, and how difficult it might be
[15:39] <czajkowski> balloons: best to ask on answers on lp
[16:08] <dpm> does anyone know who to ask to enable armhf builds on a PPA?
[16:11] <balloons> czajkowski: answers on lp?
[16:22] <jpds> dpm: wgrant.
[16:23] <dpm> thanks jpds
[16:30] <czajkowski> balloons: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[16:31] <balloons> czajkowski: ty ty
[16:38] <ricotz> wgrant, hi, maybe you could take a look at this build which gets stuck https://launchpad.net/~vala-team/+archive/ppa/+build/5553378 -- i guess this might be qemu problem
[19:47] <dobey> hrmm, ajax doesn't seem to be updating the list of reviewers at the top, on MPs, when i make a vote on the MP.
[19:56] <jtaylor> are launchpad ppas still running hardy?
[19:56] <cjwatson> yes :-/
[19:56] <jtaylor> trying to reproduce https://launchpadlibrarian.net/163783374/buildlog.txt.gz
[19:56] <jtaylor> it works in a precise chroot with LANG=C
[19:57] <jtaylor> so I'm guessing its a python2.5 issue
[19:57] <jtaylor> or bzr issue
[19:57] <ricotz> cjwatson, hello, could you please take a look at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/243486
[19:57] <jtaylor> lets see if I can create a hardy chroot ._.
[19:57] <cjwatson> ricotz: not something I can do, sorry
[19:58] <cjwatson> just wait, pretty sure those who can do such things process answers.lp fairly regularly
[19:58] <jtaylor> hm
[19:58] <jtaylor> http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/Release, but there are still archives somewhere or?
[19:59] <ricotz> cjwatson, thanks, although this might be interesting https://launchpad.net/~vala-team/+archive/ppa/+build/5553378 which might be a qemu problem with the arm builders
[20:01] <jtaylor> found old-releases.ubuntu.com
[20:12] <jtaylor> oO bzr: ERROR: Error parsing /tmp/recipe:1:22: Unknown format: '0.3'.
[20:12] <jtaylor> are the ppas using a backport?
[23:07] <fale> hi, I'm going to end soon the space of my PPA. How can I fix this?
[23:08] <wgrant> fale: Ask a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad and we can look at increasing your quota.
[23:08] <fale> wgrant: asking for more space?
[23:08] <wgrant> fale: Right.
[23:08] <fale> wgrant: thanks a lot :)


[00:43] <RevertToType> anyone know any way to scrape outlook/exchange free-busy status form command line/which tools i'd need to do this?
[01:36] <Crabalocker> I'm trying to set up postgres on ubuntu serer. I've got it running and can connect from within the server but I can't connect from another computer within the network. I assume it is a firewall issue of some sort, but I can't find a firewall even installed
[01:38] <sarnold> Crabalocker: first, check netstat -alp output and see what sockets it is listening on
[01:38] <Ben64> Crabalocker: is it listening on an external address?
[01:38] <sarnold> Crabalocker: seconds, check firewalls on all machines and routers that might be involved
[01:40] <Crabalocker> I did netstat -ltn and it's listening on 5432
[01:41] <Crabalocker> both computers are on the same router, should not be going through an external firewall
[01:42] <Crabalocker> when I do netstat -alp I don't see 5432 listed
[01:42] <sarnold> Crabalocker: what IP is it bound to? an address that's routable on the network or a localhost address?
[01:42] <Crabalocker> I actually don't know, is that something configurable from within postgres?
[01:42] <Crabalocker> it could be listening to localhost, that'd make sense why I can't connect
[01:43] <sarnold> yeah, there'll be some way to specify a binding interface or address
[01:43] <sarnold> it may not even be listening to any tcp sockets at all, it might just be doing unix domain sockets at the moment
[01:44] <Crabalocker> ahh, yeah, looks like this is a postgres question. I need to modify some config files
[01:44] <Crabalocker> thanks for the direction
[01:44] <sarnold> Crabalocker: tada, listen_addresses: http://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.1/static/runtime-config-connection.html
[02:10] <tonyyarusso> Crabalocker: It's the hba config file, if you hadn't figured that out by now.
[02:10] <Crabalocker> I did, I just don't know what to actually put for the address to allow
[02:11] <tonyyarusso> Wherever you're trying to connect from.
[02:12] <Crabalocker> do I put: host all all <IP_ADDRESS>/5432 trust, to allow all ips?
[02:12] <tonyyarusso> Uh, no.
[02:15] <sarnold> probably it would be more like "host all all <IP_ADDRESS>/24 trust" -- but I'm guessing at your network range and netmask here. are you sure you want to allow everything from all host? I really like locking things down to avoid trouble
[02:15] <tonyyarusso> Crabalocker: Two problems with that: 1) The syntax is wrong. 2) Blindly trusting anybody anywhere on the Internet to connect to your database without authentication is insane.
[02:16] <Crabalocker> well I ultimately want to open it up to other computers within my network, so sarnold's suggesting would probably be correct
[02:16] <Crabalocker> but then a friend who would want to develop on this db as well
[02:16] <tonyyarusso> Crabalocker: The bit after the slash is CIDR notation of the address, not a port number.  Even if it's within your network, I'd still require passwords.  So, more like `host all all <IP_ADDRESS>/24 md5`.
[02:16] <sarnold> yeah, that's a much better idea
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> I can't think of any reason to ever use the 'trust' option.
[02:17] <Crabalocker> ahhhhh, now that makes more sense
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> http://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/static/auth-pg-hba-conf.html has details about the various options.
[02:17] <sarnold> desert island, two computers, only one ethernet cable..
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> Desert island, nothing to do, plenty of time to memorize an extremely complex password!
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> Or, you know, put it into config files of various tools.
[02:19] <Crabalocker> and then would I need to restart a service to apply changes?
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> yup
[02:20] <sarnold> tonyyarusso: hehe :)
[07:32] <lordievader> Good morning.
[09:55] <yossarianuk>  hi -does anyone know any good guides for connecting (k)ubuntu machines to freeipa servers - most of the docs I found related to RHEL servers ?
[10:27] <yossarianuk> i.e are there any ubuntu guides for connecting an ubuntu free-ipa client ?
[10:30] <rbasak> Daviey: do you happen to know why ~ubuntu-server is subscribed to asterisk?
[12:34] <mbwe> hi everybody, i have an ubuntu server on a vps, and noticed that my disk is slowly filling up at a rate of 0.04 mb/s i disabled all logging, and i was wondering what process is responsible for that. How could tackle this?
[12:37] <lordievader> mbwe: iotop
[12:37] <mbwe> iotop let me see
[12:38] <RoyK> mbwe: logging is normal and not something you want to disable - logrotate is setup for standard services to rotate out old logs
[12:39] <mbwe> i know RoyK but just wanted to know if the normal logging was responsible for that
[12:40] <mbwe> and lordievader thanks :) iotop is great, don't understand why i did not think of using iotop
[12:40] <mbwe> anyway found the process who is writing at that rate
[12:40] <mbwe> and its my mongodb instance
[12:42] <lordievader> Then the question becomes what does mongodb write and for whom.
[12:53] <yossarianuk> anyone here use free-ipa with ubuntu clients?
[13:09] <ren0v0> hey, i'm looking to run a GTK app on ubuntu server, i'd like to set it running then be able to close down any remote connection, is that possible?
[13:20] <RoyK> ren0v0: not sure what you mean unless you're thinking of something like xpra - please detail
[13:21] <ren0v0> RoyK, actually i just stumbled upon xpra, looks like that may be what i need
[13:21] <ren0v0> i'm looking to keep the app runing
[13:22] <RoyK> xpra it is, then
[13:22] <ren0v0> so i want to forward to a remote machine, get the app running, close that session down but be able to leave the process running
[13:22] <RoyK> should work
[13:22] <ren0v0> essentially its a DSL monitor that annoyingly/stupidly requires X
[13:22] <RoyK> I haven't tried xpra myself, though
[13:22] <ren0v0> an app thats meant to run 24/7, with no daemon mode :O :O
[13:22] <RoyK> ren0v0: can't you use munin or something?
[13:23] <RoyK> with snmp?
[13:23] <ren0v0> RoyK, never used it before not sure if ist the same thing
[13:23] <ren0v0> this is specifically for a modem only, suggested by the people that hacked the modem (HG612) i'musing
[13:23] <ren0v0> i'm asking for their help, so i'd rather try this route first
[13:24] <ren0v0> quick look seems like munin isn't what i'm after
[13:24] <RoyK> ren0v0: does it support snmp?
[13:24] <ren0v0> and i have observium with snmp to all my devices, which i think is what munin is
[13:24] <RoyK> the HG612
[13:24] <RoyK> munin can use snmp, but can also do a lot more
[13:25] <ren0v0> RoyK, probably, but that all depends if the MiBs? supports all the things that these guys require
[13:25] <ren0v0> RoyK, http://www.s446074245.websitehome.co.uk/index.html
[13:25] <RoyK> ren0v0: if you have the OID, that's all you need, really
[13:25] <TJ-> RoyK: the info the scripts scrape from the HG612 aren't available via SNMP; they scrape the 'xdslcmd' output to gather DSL line stats
[13:26] <RoyK> TJ-: ah
[13:26] <RoyK> but then, you'll get the data required, right?
[13:27] <TJ-> ren0v0: However, I don't think you need a GTK app to gather the data; Last time I looked there were scripts for gathering the data separate from the presentation
[13:27]  * TJ- has an HG612 sitting on the bench right now; updated its firmware last night ready for sending out
[13:28] <ren0v0> TJ-, i think it uses telnet yea
[13:28] <ren0v0> TJ-, if you know another app/scripts i could give that a whirl for sure
[13:28] <ren0v0> TJ-, you selling some cheap? :P
[13:30] <TJ-> ren0v0: No, this one hasn't been used in 2 1/2 years and someone was asking last night about using a different CPE modem to test the line for packet loss issues
[13:31] <ren0v0> TJ-, fair enough, mine is giving me 0.4up, and BTHH5 giving 7.0up, so trying to find out if its the HG612 or my ERLite
[13:31] <TJ-> ren0v0: I tried some ssh scripts for scraping the command output rather than telnet, but never figured out a way to get past the ATP shell directly from log-in without a manual command
[13:32] <TJ-> ren0v0: I'm on the end of a 1.2km line; Replaced the HG612 with a Zyxel VMG8324 2 years ago and got 20% better performance on the downstream. Tested it last night and the HG612 gave 7.5Mbps, the VMG8324 10.5Mbps line rates
[13:33] <ren0v0> TJ-, i'm intending to stay away from modem+router
[13:33] <ren0v0> i just need a VDSL modem
[13:33] <ren0v0> i have an ERlite
[13:34] <TJ-> ren0v0: Well the HG612 can do both, as can most devices.
[13:34] <ren0v0> it can, but primarily it doesn't
[13:35] <ren0v0> and i'd rather not spend another 100quid when i have the hardware already if you know what i mean
[13:38] <TJ-> ren0v0: So you're saying the slow Upstream occurs with the Erlite ?
[13:39] <ren0v0> TJ-, well its HG612 + ERLite
[13:39] <ren0v0> could be either
[13:40] <ren0v0> unless you have an idea what it could be ?
[13:40] <ren0v0> only having one line its a total nightmare to try and fix/debug, i'm not clued up on this area so i need to google and other things at the same time!
[13:42] <TJ-> ren0v0: well, telnet to the HG612, run "xdslcmd info --show" see what the Bearer info for the Upstream side says. Examples here: https://iam.tj/projects/misc/VDSL-HG612-vs-VMG8324.txt
[13:46] <ren0v0> TJ-, what specifically? i've already has DSLstats running, and the hacked webUI shows most of this info i think
[13:46] <ren0v0> upstream rate is like 450
[13:46] <rsevero> Hi, I'm having completely unexpected boot problems on new Ubuntu servers. I'm doing what seems to me as pretty simple single disk installations of Ubuntu Server 15.04 on several different machines and many of them simply don't boot after installation. Any tricks, tips of ideas on how to troubleshoot this issues?
[13:49] <TJ-> ren0v0: does it have phyReXmt "On" for Upstream? Look at the profile (should be 17a), look at the SNR,Attn,Pwr too
[13:50] <TJ-> ren0v0: or post the command output in full and I'll look at it
[13:52] <ren0v0> TJ-, thats very helpful, obviously its not connected at the moment, well not to the line anyway, so i'll have to do that drop everything and run the command and get back to you when i can
[13:52] <ren0v0> serious pain in the ***
[13:52] <ren0v0> TJ-, what TZ are you in?
[14:10] <RoyK> rsevero: just wondering why you're using non LTS-things
[14:11] <rsevero> RoyK: aren't them supposed to be used?
[14:11] <RoyK> rsevero: I wouldn't dream of using non-LTS in production unless I didn't have choice
[14:13] <rsevero> RoyK: maybe it's bad habits from my Gentoo days but I'm used to have rather up to date systems. Having moved to Ubuntu I already accepted a loss in this front. But using LTS Ubuntu Server seems like to much for me now.
[14:14] <rsevero> RoyK: but more important: do you think I would not have these kind of issues with Ubuntu Server LTS?
[14:14] <RoyK> rsevero: no, but then, I don't use ubuntu much on servers anymore anyway, I mostly moved back to debian
[14:15] <rbasak> RoyK: I think times are changing. For reproducible deployments that have tests for everything that I care about, I'd be happy to run non-LTS in production providing that I'm willing to move every six months.
[14:15] <rbasak> Though it depends on the cirumstances of course.
[14:15] <rbasak> LTS allows to share more bug fixes as more people use it.
[14:16] <rsevero> I'm quite appalled on the kind of problem I'm facing: it's a simple, completely default single disk installation and Ubuntu Server install scripts can't manage to produce a bootable system.
[14:17] <rsevero> I"m alredy looking for Boot Repair and /or manually fixing GRUB after installation but it seems so 90s to have to manually set the boot loader...
[14:27] <RoyK> rsevero: is there a particular reason you're using non-lts?
[14:28] <rsevero> RoyK: as I mentioned: it was the natural choice for a ex-Gentoo user.
[14:28] <RoyK> I'd suggest trying 14.04
[14:28] <rsevero> If Boot Repair doesn't fix my boot, I will try a Ubuntu Server LTS installation.
[14:28] <RoyK> or debian 8
[14:29] <RoyK> IMO debian is better at keeping systems stable than ubuntu - ubuntu seems to me to have a higher focus on fancy new stuff than stability
[14:30] <RoyK> just my 2c
[14:36] <RoyK> rsevero: they use debian on ISS, btw ;)
[14:37] <rsevero> Boot Repair fixed the GRUB.
[14:37] <rsevero> RoyK: :)
[15:38] <designbybeck_> trying to setup an nginx server. When I try to start it it says "unable to resolve host ubuntu"
[15:44] <designbybeck_> that's Ubuntu Server 14.04.3
[15:48] <jrwren_> designbybeck_: resolve means dns. you can either configure dns, or add your host name to /etc/hosts
[15:50] <designbybeck_> jrwren_, ok I have hosts open. And I have my domain and IP in there
[15:50] <designbybeck_> not sure what I actaully need
[15:51] <jrwren_> designbybeck_: a hostname "ubuntu" since that seems to be your hostname.
[15:51] <designbybeck_> jrwren_, this is a test server. I'm just using it to learn on, here is the hosts: http://www.pasteall.org/61530
[15:51] <jrwren_> designbybeck_: not sure what you would have a domain in there.
[15:51] <jrwren_> designbybeck_: looks like you want your hostname to be beck, but it is set to ubuntu
[15:52] <designbybeck_> jrwren_, I don't see ubuntu anywhere in there
[15:52] <lordievader> designbybeck_: What is the hostname?
[15:52] <lordievader> designbybeck_: cat /etc/hostname
[15:52] <designbybeck_> ah yes lordievader there it is
[15:52] <designbybeck_> says ubuntu there lordievader
[15:53] <lordievader> designbybeck_: There is your problem.
[15:54] <designbybeck_> ok so this time when I try to start it, it doesn't say anything about resolve
[15:54] <designbybeck_> now it says this lordievader: http://www.pasteall.org/61531
[15:54] <designbybeck_> i did have apache running ,but I stopped that service
[15:55] <lordievader> 'netstat -tulpn|grep 80' to see what is using it.
[15:56] <designbybeck_> lordievader, when I do that it just goes to a > prompt
[15:57] <lordievader> designbybeck_: What did you type exactly?
[15:58] <designbybeck_> sudo netstat -tulpn | grep :80'
[15:58] <lordievader> Why ":80'"?
[15:58] <lordievader> Remove the last '
[15:58] <designbybeck_> sudo netstat -tulpn | grep :98
[15:58] <designbybeck_> ok now that didn't return anything
[15:59] <teward> note that the 'unable to resolve' is from sudo - if the hostname and the /etc/hosts don't match up i think it triggers those errors
[15:59] <teward> oh wait
[15:59] <teward> i'm slow :)
[15:59] <teward> :P
[15:59] <lordievader> designbybeck_: 'netstat -tulpn|grep 80'
[15:59] <teward> (I need sleep)
[15:59] <designbybeck_> ;) teward you got me this far!
[15:59] <designbybeck_> ok that gives me tcp <IP_ADDRESS>:80
[15:59] <designbybeck_> 12430/nginx
[16:01] <designbybeck_> and I do see nginx welcome screen when I type in my domain name... so maybe I ready for Step 3?
[16:02] <lordievader> designbybeck_: So nginx was already listening to that port.
[16:03] <teward> designbybeck_: yes you're already ready to go - if nginx is running and you see the welcome page continue on :)
[16:03] <teward> provided you recompiled nginx like the instructions had said
[16:04] <designbybeck_> yes teward so far so good
[16:04] <designbybeck_> on to testing step 4
[16:13] <designbybeck_> got it working lordievader thanks for the help!
[16:13] <designbybeck_> I learned a great deal from this
[16:13] <lordievader> No problem.
[19:03] <jamespage> coreycb, manila rc2 all good for upload from git? are there any other pkgs you need sponsored for universe?
[19:04] <coreycb> jamespage, yes please. barbican, designate, manila, and openstack-trove.
[19:04] <jamespage> coreycb, all build tested?
[19:05] <coreycb> jamespage, yep, in my wily ppa
[19:05] <jamespage> coreycb, awesome on those now
[19:05] <coreycb> jamespage, thx
[19:08] <jamespage> coreycb, all done
[19:11] <jamespage> coreycb, need me to sync murano from exp as well?
[19:11] <jamespage> ditto on murano dashboard
[19:15] <coreycb> jamespage, I've not done murano yet
[19:34] <GeekMan1222|Lap> anyone familiar with apache2
[19:35] <jrwren_> GeekMan1222|Lap: yup, someone is.
[19:36] <GeekMan1222|Lap> ok
[19:40] <teward> GeekMan1222|Lap: you should probably ask a real question
[19:40] <teward> describing the issue you want to resolve
[19:40] <teward> rather than ask if there's someone familiar with software around
[19:40] <SCHAAP137> GeekMan1222|Lap: don't ask to ask, just ask, it's okay
[19:42] <GeekMan1222|Lap> pft
[19:42] <GeekMan1222|Lap> im stupid guys
[19:42] <GeekMan1222|Lap> sorry to bother you i forgot to portforward 80 on the router
[19:42] <GeekMan1222|Lap> :|
[19:42] <SCHAAP137> hehe, it can happen
[19:42] <GeekMan1222|Lap> though i may have questions later cause i used to use version 1.x in the past
[19:43] <SCHAAP137> i've used apache2.4 for a while, until moving to nginx
[21:48] <teward> how do i force a dhcp6 update for an ethernet interface?  `sudo dhclient -6 eth0` ?
[22:00] <teward> I ask because I get a broken `dhclient -6 -v eth0` output - it just errors a lot in 15.04
[23:16] <cryptodan> try service networking restart
[23:17] <cryptodan> or remove the dhcp lease from the router for that sstem's IP
[23:17] <sarnold> heh, don't do that, at best it does nothing, at worst it wedges dbus and you get to reboot.
[23:17] <cryptodan> sarnold: I have had it hit and miss
[23:46] <teward> sarnold: even in /etc/network/interfaces with 'dhcp' configured for inet6, it gets an IPv6 from the server, but then the dhclient-script stuff all errors out with shopt errors
[23:47] <teward> (sorry, been 9-tasking)
[23:47] <teward> s/server/router/
[23:47] <teward> and i know that because error log and manual dhclient exec
[23:48] <sarnold> teward: anything in dmesg or audit log? some of those dhcp thingies have miserable interactions with apparmor
[23:48] <teward> brb (reboot to a Kali disk so I have GUI resizing of my ext4 partition)


[01:35] <vuth> directhex u there?
[06:15] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Jono Bacon] Chris Anderson Confirmed For 2nd Ed. Foreword - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/08/01/chris-anderson-confirmed-for-2nd-ed-foreword/
[07:09] <daubers> Morning
[07:19] <Nafallo> good morning! :-D
[07:20]  * Nafallo woke up to the news that UK is world champions again! :-D
[07:32] <jpds> Nafallo: Turn off the TV before going to bed next time.
[07:47] <gord> happy mailman day all
[07:50] <MooDoo> hello all
[07:50] <MooDoo> Nafallo: world champs?  what at?
[07:51] <diplo> Morning all
[07:51] <DJones> Was that in the international phone hacking competition?
[07:53] <BigRedS> we'd have lost at that
[07:53] <BigRedS> since in the UK 'hacking' = 'trying the default password'
[07:55] <jpds> BigRedS: Well, how many times did you reboot it?
[07:56] <MooDoo> the only other one i know is darts.....
[07:56] <BigRedS> jpds: hm?
[08:09] <Nafallo> jpds: haven't got a TV (at least not one that can view TV)
[08:10] <Nafallo> MooDoo: street dance. http://www.plaguedance.com/2011/08/we-are-the-champions/
[08:11] <MooDoo> ah cool
[09:32] <MooDoo> :)
[09:50] <MooDoo> *yawn*
[09:51] <BigRedS> Are we keeping you up?
[09:52] <DJones> I recon its the stimulating conversation in the channel keeping MooDoo awake
[09:53] <Daviey> Will you lot be quiet, some of us are trying to sleep. Thanks.
[09:53] <MooDoo> lol it must be that "it's monday it's busy" type of situation
[10:01] <gord> i wonder if i could set up a home office centred around my bed....
[10:01] <gord> would make mondays easier
[10:01] <oimon> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/google/8674416/Google-Chrome-web-browser-second-most-popular-in-UK.html
[10:02] <BigRedS> I wonder if that's based on w3schools' stats, too :)
[10:02] <oimon> according to statcounter
[10:03] <davmor2> morning all
[10:03] <MooDoo> morning davmor2
[10:03] <oimon> could be indicative of the type of sites that would use something like statcounter
[10:03]  * davmor2 prods czajkowski to remind her it's Monday
[10:03] <davmor2> morning MooDoo dude
[10:04] <BigRedS> g'morning!
[10:07] <MooDoo> hows it going davmor2
[10:09] <davmor2> MooDoo: good thanks you?
[10:09] <MooDoo> davmor2: it's monday....so meh!
[10:20] <oimon> hehe :) http://www.emcartoons.com/July-2011/someone-has-a-secret
[10:23] <davmor2> MooDoo: I'll tell you about it once I wake up ;)
[10:25] <MooDoo> davmor2: WAKE UP!!!
[10:26] <davmor2> MooDoo: don't try waking me up then I'm just grumpy and blame the person that woke me ;)
[10:28] <MooDoo> lol
[10:29] <bastubis> hi - this is paula - I have Linda who was having problems with her laptop connecting to BT
[10:30] <bastubis> and I'm showing her how to access the right channel
[10:30] <bastubis> because I think she was in the wrong place
[10:30] <DJones> Hi paula/bastubis
[10:30] <MooDoo> hello bastubis [paula]
[10:31] <DJones> Also, welcome to the channel Linda
[10:31] <bastubis> OK, we've checked her laptop and there's no problem in ubuntu
[10:31] <bastubis> she's connected to our wifi no probs
[10:31] <bastubis> we've deleted auto-logins for her BT hub
[10:31] <bastubis> I hope it'll just work when she gets home
[10:31] <bastubis> if not, we're configuring xchat so she can come back
[10:32] <MooDoo> we'll be here :)
[10:33] <MooDoo> that was quick ;)
[10:33] <Apacheuk> bastubis: is it the latest BT hub? I have a home hub 2.0 and don't have any issues here
[10:36] <AlanBell> hi bastubis
[10:36] <AlanBell> what is Linda's IRC nick?
[10:36] <AlanBell> hi LindaDamerell :)
[10:37] <LindaDamerell> hello
[10:37] <MooDoo> hello LindaDamerell
[10:37] <MooDoo> :)
[10:37] <bastubis> Hi Linda
[10:37] <bastubis> OK, I think we're good here - thanks :)
[11:03] <MooDoo> blimey it's quiet
[11:07] <brobostigon> afternoonings everyone.
[11:08] <popey> Morning all!
[11:09] <davmor2> morning popey
[11:10] <brobostigon> hi popey and davmor2
[11:10] <davmor2> morning brobostigon
[11:10] <brobostigon> it is 12:10, isnt it meant to be afternoon.
[11:12] <MooDoo> howdy popey and brobostigon
[11:12] <brobostigon> hi MooDoo
[11:23] <BranCo_SCB_> Hi everyone. Does anyone know if there's an E-magazine on Ubuntu UK.
[11:23] <AlanBell> hi BranCo_SCB_ there is the full circle mag
[11:23] <AlanBell> global focus but based in the UK
[11:24] <BranCo_SCB_> The Full Circle Mag?
[11:24] <BranCo_SCB_> I'll search. Thank you.
[11:24] <AlanBell> http://fullcirclemagazine.org/
[11:32] <BranCo_SCB_> The magazine is great! What software do they use to make it?
[11:33] <popey> BranCo_SCB_: dunno, scribus I think
[11:35] <davmor2> BranCo_SCB_: I think in issue 1 or 2 they give you a break down of what tools to use
[11:35] <directhex> vim and latex.
[11:36] <BranCo_SCB_> I'll check. Tnx.
[11:40] <KrisDouglas> Hello, I am having a problem getting my ubuntu server to get it's hostname resolving on our network. We have a windows server as a DNS and the fqdn for the ubuntu server is setup to crm.domain.local
[11:40] <KrisDouglas> the windows server is sbs.domain.local and that works
[11:41] <KrisDouglas> but the ubuntu server won't resolve.
[11:41] <AlanBell> the .local domain is special
[11:41] <AlanBell> works with avahi
[11:41] <KrisDouglas> I don't like the sound of that
[11:41] <KrisDouglas> :)
[11:42] <directhex> .local means something specific
[11:42] <AlanBell> I do, it just works!
[11:42] <AlanBell> hostname.local just resolves
[11:42] <directhex> it's auto-discovered domains found using mdns, aka zeroconf aka apple's bonjour
[11:42] <AlanBell> no need for DNS at all
[11:42] <KrisDouglas> So I am going to assume I have to install Avahi?
[11:43] <AlanBell> depends what you want to achieve
[11:44] <directhex> you can change which domain avahi uses in /etc/avahi/avahi-daemon.conf, i.e. tell it not to use .local, so there's no conflict
[11:44] <directhex> if a conflict is the issue
[11:46] <KrisDouglas> Ok changing now
[11:46] <KrisDouglas> Is there anything (other than avahi-daemon) that i have to restart?
[11:49] <directhex> not that i can think of
[12:00] <KrisDouglas> this is the top of my config file, which is still not working =[ http://pastebin.com/Rpp2ESBD
[12:02] <KrisDouglas> I really need to study networking :)
[12:08] <HazRPG> heh, the "new" commodore 64 seems to have been released :P
[12:08] <HazRPG> also, hi all \o
[12:08] <brobostigon> afternoonings HazRPG :)
[12:14] <HazRPG> brobostigon: afternoon :)
[12:14] <KrisDouglas> Oh no!
[12:14] <dogmatic69> o/
[12:14] <KrisDouglas> BE are withdrawing their bonded broadband servic
[12:14] <KrisDouglas> e
[12:18] <HazRPG> KrisDouglas: how come?
[12:19] <KrisDouglas> They didn't say, but they are pursuing FTTC now so I am going to assume they are "re-aligning" resources
[12:19] <KrisDouglas> We have a bonded connection from them in stone, absolutely flawless
[13:23] <daubers> lo
[13:23] <jacobw> o/
[13:24] <brobostigon> o/
[13:24] <dogmatic69> o/
[13:24] <bigcalm> If I were to buy an album of MP3s from Amazon, would they come DRM free?
[13:25] <davmor2> bigcalm: no idea why?
[13:26] <KrisDouglas> I have a windows vista machine in at the moment which doesn't have the driver for the hard drive that the OS is loading off..  yet it boots, logs in to a desktop and tells me such.
[13:26] <gord> bigcalm, if its listed as mp3, yeah
[13:27] <gord> KrisDouglas, what makes you think you need a driver for a hard-drive?
[13:27] <bigcalm> We saw In Bruges last night. The OST is wonderful so I wanted to buy the album. On Amazon, £17.79 for the CD, £7.99 for the MP3s
[13:27] <davmor2> KrisDouglas: it'll use some ancient default driver that be optimised
[13:28] <KrisDouglas> gord, davmor2 it's not loading them :) I do this crap for a living, just thought it was a comical scenario.
[13:28] <popey> bigcalm: yes, mp3 on amazon is drm free
[13:28] <KrisDouglas> Seems like the registry has forgotten all these drivers were setup
[13:29] <davmor2> KrisDouglas: no the registry forgot something I don't believe you ;)
[13:30] <KrisDouglas> ?
[13:31] <bigcalm> Oh yay. The Amazon mp3 downloader .deb is for i386
[13:31] <KrisDouglas> found a registry backup that the system generated, going to load that and see what happens.
[13:31] <bigcalm> Wonder if wine will help
[13:32] <directhex> bigcalm, don't use it then.
[13:32] <KrisDouglas> http://tinyurl.com/ubuntu1012 works
[13:32] <directhex> bigcalm, use clamz or bamz (provided with banshee)
[13:32] <davmor2> bigcalm: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[13:34] <bigcalm> 11.04 64bit
[13:35] <directhex> amazon's amz files are encrypted. however, every amz file in the world is encrypted with the same key, which can be extracted easily from the amazon mp3 downloader binary. hence replacement downloader tools, like banshee
[13:35] <bigcalm> I see
[13:36] <bigcalm> I'll give it a go, ta
[13:36] <directhex> it's seamless if you use the amazon mp3 store directly within banshee, but bamz is a command-line download tool
[13:37] <davmor2> bigcalm: use banshee, and see if it is cheaper on ubuntumusic store too some are some aren't
[13:38] <directhex> i pay extra for u1ms. i like the cloud aspect
[13:39] <gord> course you also have the ability to download from amazon and store the music in u1 ;)
[13:39] <directhex> i wrote the first u1ms banshee plugin, i'm gonna damn well use it
[13:39] <davmor2> directhex: I found that the same album on u1ms was a pound cheaper than amazon but on the new releases I find amazon is normally cheaper but hey the 2 are in there so it's worth looking :)
[13:40] <bigcalm> This is quite good :)
[13:40] <directhex> i've paid almost 3 quid for a single track on u1ms before
[13:40] <bigcalm> Couldn't find the album on U1
[13:41] <bigcalm> Ah
[13:41] <bigcalm> Now downloading at 4.3K/s
[13:42] <bigcalm> So, who got my money for buying MP3s via Banshee?
[13:42] <directhex> bigcalm, amazon got your money. amazon then pay affiliate revenue to canonical
[13:43] <directhex> canonical then pay 25% of afiliate revenue from amazon and 7digital to gnome
[13:43] <davmor2> bigcalm: everyones a winner baby :)
[13:43] <bigcalm> Heh
[13:43] <KrisDouglas> That sounds a lot better than the previous arrangement.
[13:43] <directhex> if you use a banshee PPA, the affiliate revenue from banshee goes to gnome & bypasses canonical
[13:44] <bigcalm> What if I had installed Banshee from a non-canonical source?
[13:44] <bigcalm> Ah, there :)
[13:44] <directhex> affiliate revenue is one or two pennies per track afaik
[13:44] <bigcalm> Well, considering that I've never given monies to Canonical before now and have been using Ubuntu for years...
[13:45] <bigcalm> Not too bothered :)
[13:45] <popey> i donated to tuxpaint last night :D
[13:45] <bigcalm> popey: who's donating to your printer fund?
[13:45] <popey> heh
[13:46] <directhex> i should get off my arse and update my mono PPAs. those are a good source of donations
[13:48] <MooDoo> :)
[13:51] <directhex> i could do with a boost to clear the credit cards
[13:54] <bigcalm> I really shouldn't have bought that album, enjoying it though
[13:54] <bigcalm> Damn you Amazon for keeping my credit card details so handily
[13:55]  * daubers just spent all his money on education :(
[13:55] <bigcalm> And what has that taught you?
[13:56] <davmor2> don't spend all your money on education
[13:58] <bigcalm> :D
[13:59] <directhex> anyone want an updated libgdiplus for natty? only tuppence ha'penny!
[14:00] <davmor2> directhex: No?
[14:00] <directhex> darn
[14:01]  * hamitron directs directhex to "the source"
[14:01] <hamitron> ;)
[14:01] <davmor2> may the source be with you
[14:02] <hamitron> indeed
[14:03] <hamitron> !natty
[14:03] <hamitron> just checking
[14:07] <daubers> should be getting some video cameras this week \o/
[14:10] <daubers> Need to go somewhere noisy and do an ambient noise test with them
[14:21] <oimon> daubers: oggcamp?
[14:21] <MartijnVdS> vorbiscamp?
[14:23] <daubers> oimon: That's where they'll be destined, but I want to know if external mics would be appropriate
[14:24] <oimon> last year's oggcamp video has been written off hasn't it?
[14:24] <daubers> It may appear at some stage (the professionally filmed bits anyway)
[14:24] <oimon> i heard someone made an offer to grab the raw footage themselves but didn't gfet far
[14:26] <daubers> oimon: Either way, this year will be _awesome_
[14:26] <oimon> is everyone supposed to wear name tags featuring their irc nicks?
[14:27] <popey> oimon: yes
[14:27] <popey> (as in video written off)
[14:28] <oimon> shame, would be nice to get an idea of what it's like
[14:28] <daubers> oimon: Can help you there!
[14:28] <daubers> oimon: http://blip.tv/daubers
[14:30] <oimon> daubers: can you record audio directly from the PA desk?
[14:31] <daubers> oimon: I'm not so worried about filming the talks. Thats kinda sorted, it's more for wandering around the exhibition bit and stuff
[14:31] <oimon> ah
[14:31] <oimon> i guess you could take it to a wtherspoons pub for ambient chatter noise
[14:32] <daubers> oimon: I was going to go to the local shopping center :)
[16:05] <ascenseur> hey
[16:06] <popey> HELLO!
[16:07] <popey> http://twitpic.com/5zbuza   oops
[16:08] <ascenseur> popey: what's occurin'? :)
[16:08] <popey> Heat!
[16:09] <popey> lots of it
[16:09] <popey> everywhere
[16:09] <ascenseur> aha
[16:09] <BigRedS> oh
[16:09] <ascenseur> and don't we know it!
[16:09] <BigRedS> that's going to be annoying
[16:09] <BigRedS> (not for me, which is nice)
[16:09] <ascenseur> popey: aha, and yes, that's bad :/ luckily my train ride skips croydon!
[16:10] <gord> its so hot :( i may melt
[16:10] <ascenseur> i am melting!
[16:15]  * popey puts ice in the gord
[16:15] <daubers> Woot! New air conditioned office ftw
[16:15] <BigRedS> yeah, I'm now dreading going home after these stories
[16:15] <popey> best decision ever, buying a fridge/freezer which makes ice
[16:15] <BigRedS> it's quite pleasant in my air conditioned office
[16:16]  * daubers imagines popey shovelling ice from the fridge with his new snow shovel
[16:16] <davmor2> if it keeps up like this I may resort to the aircon unit over the fan :)
[16:35] <davmor2> popey: that mudslides really bad I mean I turn the picture upside down and it still didn't clear
[16:41] <davmor2> I forgot to ask who was installing sim city 2000 in dosbox did they do it and did it work?
[17:12] <MartijnVdS> it works fine
[17:12] <MartijnVdS> just put the installtion files in some dir
[17:12] <MartijnVdS> mount that path in dosbox
[17:12] <MartijnVdS> and run it
[17:38] <davmor2> MartijnVdS: Cool glad it worked :)
[17:57] <kvarley> Using Quickly how do I add the deb icon? So when the deb is opened in the Software Centre the icon appears?
[18:47] <popey> Evening all
[18:48] <StevenR> lo
[18:51] <gord> dear ubuntu gods, can we just alias les to less already =\
[18:52] <davmor2> gord: NO! repent sinner for even thinking such a thing
[19:01] <MartijnVdS> gord: this is what ~/.bashrc is for
[19:01] <gord> MartijnVdS, no no no
[19:02] <gord> once you start editing bashrc for your own lazyness, you end up not being able to use anyone elses computer
[19:02] <MartijnVdS> gord: ln -s it from ~/Ubuntu\ One/.bashrc
[19:05] <daubers> gord: I used to know someone who's bashrc ran into the thousands of lines
[19:05]  * bigcalm slaps mc.net - let me log in!
[19:05] <daubers> mostly of typos to real commands
[19:05] <MartijnVdS> there's also a shopt for that
[19:06] <peng42phone> Yawn, repeat (train,  change) until home
[19:06] <MartijnVdS> cdspell If set, minor errors in the spelling of a directory com‐ ponent  in  a  cd command will be corrected.
[19:08] <MartijnVdS> you could also patch the command-not-found package to automatically RUN the first suggestion if it's already installed
[19:09] <peng42phone> Ooh dangerous
[19:09] <MartijnVdS> peng42phone: as an option, of course
[19:09] <MartijnVdS> mr some_file
[19:09] <MartijnVdS> oops, didn't want rm anyway..
[19:09] <MartijnVdS> something like that ;)
[19:10] <peng42phone> Nod
[19:10] <webpigeon> MartijnVdS, you didn't need it anyway... right? :P
[19:10] <MartijnVdS> webpigeon: probably not
[19:10] <MartijnVdS> webpigeon: especially in the (very) long run
[19:11] <MartijnVdS> webpigeon: (think geological time)
[19:11] <webpigeon> universe.sh ?
[19:12] <peng42phone> Still 2 trains from. Home
[19:13] <MartijnVdS> peng42phone: I'm always 2 trains from home when I'm at work :)
[19:13] <MartijnVdS> On all 3 alternative routes :)
[19:13] <MartijnVdS> 4
[19:13] <peng42phone> This is a 4 train route
[19:14] <MartijnVdS> aww
[19:14] <MartijnVdS> English trains too
[19:14] <peng42phone> Eastern English trains at that
[19:14] <webpigeon> peng42phone, cd ~
[19:15] <MartijnVdS> webpigeon: or just "cd"
[19:15] <MartijnVdS> webpigeon: it defaults to ~
[19:15] <MartijnVdS> (also, it saves on keyboard wear)
[19:15] <webpigeon> MartijnVdS, this is true, but with your autocorrect script running, who knows ;)
[19:16] <MartijnVdS> webpigeon: I have "oops.pl" running in irssi
[19:16] <MartijnVdS> so when I type just "ls" it does /names :)
[19:17] <MartijnVdS> or "whois" in a query
[19:24] <peng42phone> Martijnvds: what happens when you type rm in your irc?
[19:24] <MartijnVdS> peng42phone: nothing
[19:24] <MartijnVdS> peng42phone: though linking it to /kick or /kickban would be nice ;)
[19:25] <MartijnVdS> peng42phone: rm = kick, rm -rf = ban :)
[19:25] <MartijnVdS> peng42phone: and sudo would be some command to nickserv
[19:25] <MartijnVdS> to get ops
[19:26] <webpigeon> :P
[19:27] <webpigeon> sudo <cmd> = nickserv op <cmd> nickserv deop
[19:27] <MartijnVdS> webpigeon: sudo -s = just nickserv op
[19:28] <Karti> Hi any Thunderbird gurus on here? Having trouble saving settings
[19:28] <MartijnVdS> Karti: of what?
[19:28] <MartijnVdS> Karti: a single account, or "Preferences"?
[19:29] <Karti> MartijnVdS, Within my settings (all is working by the way) any time I change my junk settings they are "not remembered"
[19:30] <webpigeon> MartijnVdS++
[19:30] <MartijnVdS> Karti: did you copy your profile from a different place, or did you create it "new"?
[19:30] <Karti> All from new. Moved acros from Evolution
[19:31] <MartijnVdS> Karti: what are you setting the junk setting to?
[19:31] <Karti> as it looked like thunderbird was going to be the default on 11.10
[19:31] <MartijnVdS> it is
[19:32] <Karti> all my accounts point to Global Local settings (I like to save on my HD rather than teh server) and teh junk should go to local settings Junk folder
[19:33] <MartijnVdS> I have no idea what could cause this
[19:33] <MartijnVdS> Have you tried looking on the Mozilla wiki, or in bug lists?
[19:34] <Karti> Ha d a google look and seen some details but all some time ago.
[19:34] <Karti> I will search teh lists and see if any recent bugs have been accepted
[19:35] <MartijnVdS> if not, please file one yourself
[19:35] <Karti> MartijnVdS, Thanks for the assistance
[19:35] <MartijnVdS> there should be an option to do that in the menu
[19:35] <Karti> will do
[19:35] <Karti> :)
[20:03] <ikonia> popey: I'll be interested in how your flash experiment goes and compare notes
[20:05] <popey> Had my first video that wont play :D
[20:06] <ikonia> popey: which site ?
[20:06] <peng42phone> Right, on the last of the trains for today
[20:06] <popey> a youtube video
[20:08] <ikonia> interesting, I had no problems with html5 youtube
[20:13] <Daviey> popey: I have had no sound on some html5 youtube videos
[20:13] <popey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVXekyKwQAo&feature=feedu
[20:13] <popey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pDhG_Q9oBg&feature=feedu
[20:18] <Daviey> Is it going to be a mistake if i try minecraft?
[20:18] <popey> heh
[20:19] <webpigeon_laptop> Daviey, productivity-wise, probably :P
[20:21] <daubers> Daviey: define "mistake"
[20:21] <daubers> Also, the /topic should be updated :)
[20:27]  * webpigeon_laptop hides
[20:28] <AlanBell> you can run but you can't hide
[20:28] <webpigeon_laptop> :P
[20:29] <DJones> Daviey: The mistake would be not trying minecraft :)
[20:30] <Daviey> hmm...
[20:33] <oimon1> evening chaps..having a video /dvd issue
[20:33] <oimon1> adding some m4v files to a dvd that i am combining to a single dvd
[20:34] <oimon1> first 3 files work fine, then the final file i am adding is reported at 125 fps instead of 25 and the preview in devede is playing wrongly..any ideas?
[20:35] <ali1234> convert everything into png sequence and wav with ffmpeg first
[20:35] <ali1234> then specify framerates by hand
[20:36] <ali1234> put it all back together as a nice editable format
[20:36] <oimon1> sounds like a lot of work
[20:36] <ali1234> then fix audio sync manually by skewing in a good video editor
[20:36] <ali1234> yeah, it's a lot of work
[20:36] <ali1234> but it pays well :)
[20:37]  * Daviey ponders 13.95...
[20:37] <Daviey> anyone wanna buy me a gift certificate? :)
[20:39] <oimon1> ali1234: you have any experience with a gui editor? i'm a bit noob at video encolding
[20:39] <ali1234> oimon1: only adobe
[20:44] <ali1234> has anyone ever tried to buy a kindle off amazon.com? (instead of amazon.co.uk)
[20:44] <popey> i did
[20:44] <ali1234> what happened?
[20:45] <ali1234> see, i have a gift balance on amazon.com
[20:45] <popey> it arrived in the post shortly after
[20:45] <ali1234> it's in dollars, cannot be used on .co.uk
[20:45] <popey> exactly what I had :D
[20:45] <ali1234> cool
[20:45] <ikonia> so if you buy one from .com you can't use it to shop at .co.uk ?
[20:45] <popey> it arrived and i used it via .com for some months
[20:45] <popey> then they launched in teh uk
[20:45] <ali1234> ah
[20:46] <popey> and there is a button on amazon.co.uk and it says "migrate your .com kindle"
[20:46] <ali1234> well, now you can buy them on .co.uk... .com redirects you
[20:46] <popey> so its easy to migrate
[20:46] <ikonia> ahhh, I have that on mine
[20:47] <ali1234> maybe if i use a proxy
[20:48] <peng42phone>  Better, back on the right side of the pennines
[20:51] <hamitron> can you move a .co.uk kindle to .com?
[21:35] <bigcalm[revo]> I got the DisplayLink graphics adaptor working \o/
[21:35] <bigcalm[revo]> Only at the expense of the nvidia monitors not working at the same time /o\
[21:52] <popey> haha
[21:53] <bigcalm[revo]> :(
[21:56] <bigcalm[revo]> It's not my night
[22:22] <brobostigon> good night, sleep well everyone.
[22:30] <Bomster> tara
[22:36] <AlanBell> http://paste.ubuntu.com/656714/ my / drive went read only
[22:36] <AlanBell> doesn't seem to have affected much
[22:37] <AlanBell> what can I do about it?
[22:39] <AlanBell> this is an ext4 partition running on an SD card
[22:44] <dutchie> have you tried turning it off and on again?
[22:44] <dutchie> (perhaps with a fsck in the middle)
[22:44] <AlanBell> funnily enough I have
[22:44] <dutchie> :)
[22:44] <AlanBell> it did it again, not sure an fsck happened though
[22:45] <AlanBell> is there a way to force that on boot?
[22:45] <dutchie> not sure, there it might be a kernel command option
[22:45] <dutchie> or just boot a live environment
[22:46] <AlanBell> right now the thing is receiving backups from other computers to an attached disk that is read/write still. I will try some other stuff tomorrow.
[22:46] <AlanBell> I can take the sd card out and plug it in my laptop to fsck
[22:46] <AlanBell> all servers should boot from SD cards
[22:47] <AlanBell> and all SD cards should not do silly faily things like this
[22:48] <directhex> mount -o remount,rw /
[22:49] <directhex> you can force a fsck by writing a file called "forcefsck" to the root of a partition
[22:51] <AlanBell> cool, I will do that tomorrow, thanks directhex
[22:55] <Bomster> Anyone from the Lakes, spent much time up there?  Do you think it will be possible to have a start point and an end point, about 3 days walking apart, and just set up our tent at oubs in between?
[22:57] <StevenR> at pubs?
[22:58] <Bomster> just somewhere to eat etc
[22:58] <Bomster> and pitch up
[22:58] <Bomster> *pubs
[22:58] <hamitron> will depend on the pub at a guess ;)
[22:58] <StevenR> how do you intend to get from end back to start?
[22:58] <StevenR> leave one car at end?
[22:59] <Bomster> yeah, we were hoping to hitch or taxi back to the car at point A
[22:59] <StevenR> Bomster: you can't just camp anywhere, but there are campsites.
[22:59] <StevenR> you might struggle to hitch
[22:59] <StevenR> you could also do a circular route
[22:59] <hamitron> or choose locations with a train?
[23:00] <Bomster> yeah, thats what I was asking really, is there enough places to camp for us to be able to find
[23:00] <Bomster> yeah, a circular route is probably a batter idea
[23:00] <StevenR> hamitron: there's not a great deal of train in the lakes
[23:00] <StevenR> unless you could the L+H
[23:00] <StevenR> *count
[23:00] <Bomster> a circular route is no problem
[23:00] <Bomster> just want to incorporate Scafell Pike and Helvelyn
[23:01] <Bomster> (soz for bad spelling)
[23:01] <StevenR> (I assume you're sufficiently comfy with navigatin in fog, have all the appropriate kit, etc)
[23:02] <Bomster> yeah
[23:02] <Bomster> Got quite alot of kit, done alot of travelling round Europe
[23:02] <hamitron> "yeh man, I got my smart phone"
[23:02] <hamitron> ;)
[23:02] <Bomster> haha
[23:02] <Bomster> and that ;)
[23:02] <StevenR> (I met a tourist once in the middle of the cairngorms once, with a pac-a-mac and some jaffa cakes, and a lonely planet guide to scotland for naviagational aid
[23:03] <hamitron> :/
[23:03] <Bomster> hhaha
[23:03] <hamitron> I don't like jaffa cakes
[23:03] <StevenR> it's ok. he walked past us that evening on the way out
[23:03] <hamitron> :/
[23:03] <StevenR> but utterly ill prepared
[23:04] <directhex> i went to the lakes once or twice. in-laws used to have a flat there
[23:04] <directhex> spent my time at the pub.
[23:04] <Bomster> lol
[23:04] <hamitron> :D
[23:04] <Bomster> Sounds goo
[23:04] <Bomster> *d
[23:04] <directhex> also went to a wedding
[23:05] <directhex> and got stuck driving up a delightful local road called "the struggle" during a snowstorm
[23:05] <Bomster> It's a beautiful place.
[23:05] <hamitron> can I just ask.....
[23:05] <Bomster> Yes?
[23:05] <hamitron> what is wrong with a pac-a-mac?
[23:05] <hamitron> ;/
[23:05] <Bomster> lol
[23:06]  * hamitron doesn't wear pro gear
[23:06]  * Bomster wears whatever he can find in charity shops.
[23:06] <hamitron> meh
[23:07] <StevenR> hamitron: in combination with other kit, nothing. But as his sole protection against the elements on a not-very-nice-day in a reasonably remote valley?
[23:07] <hamitron> when you get rescued by the fit blondes in mountain rescue, you really gotta make an effort man
[23:07] <Bomster> haha
[23:07] <Bomster> It's not Baywatch, lol.
[23:08] <StevenR> we were worried enough that if we hadn't seen him walk past us on the way out of the mountains, we'd have gone back to find him
[23:08] <Bomster> StevenR, can you reccomend anyone I could possibly ring for some more info on the area?
[23:08] <StevenR> he asked if the bothy had a loo... he didn't like the response "Well, there's probably a spade"
[23:09] <StevenR> Bomster: local TIC?
[23:09] <StevenR> maybe Keswick or Ambleside
[23:09] <Bomster> Wow, bothys look awesome
[23:09] <Bomster> Yeah, will give 'em a call.
[23:10] <StevenR> more common in Scotland
[23:10] <StevenR> but it made us laugh alot.
[23:10] <hamitron> I got a good book on walks in North Yorkshire Moores
[23:10] <Bomster> looks amazing - http://www.bothy.com/BothyAld0001_25pc.jpg
[23:10] <hamitron> prob something for lakes too
[23:10] <StevenR> Bomster: where is that?
[23:10] <Bomster> just saw it on Google Images
[23:11] <Bomster> http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=bothy&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&biw=1440&bih=802&tbm=isch&tbnid=4X1sM3oZGQXvUM:&imgrefurl=http://www.bothy.com/&docid=kg5wNNomL_MW7M&w=392&h=256&ei=lDI3Tq2HN8SzhAej8qGQAg&zoom=1
[23:11] <Bomster> In Scotland
[23:11] <StevenR> Bomster: it looks like one I stayed it
[23:11] <Bomster> Are they empty inside?
[23:12] <StevenR> some have like... wooden raised bits
[23:12] <StevenR> sometimes a bench or a few chairs
[23:12] <Bomster> and they're free?
[23:13] <StevenR> yeah. Some ask that you send some money on for upkeep and such
[23:13] <StevenR> there are societys that maintain
[23:13] <StevenR> if you ever stay in one, hang any food up
[23:13] <StevenR> (mice)
[23:14] <StevenR> I had my rucksack liner chewed through once
[23:14] <Bomster> Pro tip!
[23:14] <StevenR> (only a cheap one, so no biggie)
[23:14] <StevenR> write in the guest book too!
[23:14] <Bomster> of course!
[23:14] <StevenR> don't use all the firewood
[23:14] <Bomster> Do you just kip on the floor?
[23:15] <Bomster> Alos, do you often meet others in?
[23:15] <StevenR> some have raised areas, like big 6x3 boxes, others have upper floors, varies so much.
[23:15] <StevenR> sometimes.
[23:15] <StevenR> it's considered bad form to take large groups
[23:16] <StevenR> cos then you fill them
[23:16] <Bomster> Only 3 of us
[23:16] <StevenR> no problems then
[23:16] <StevenR> sweep up when you leave and all that.
[23:17] <Bomster> they sound brilliant
[23:17] <Bomster> Are they on most maps?
[23:17] <Bomster> OS and the like?
[23:17] <StevenR> the OS maps will show 'em
[23:17] <StevenR> usually like "Ryvoan Bothy" with little "building here" square
[23:18] <Bomster> awesome
[23:18] <Bomster> so you reckon there are only a few in the LAkes?
[23:18] <StevenR> I don't think there are many
[23:18] <Bomster> What about in bonnie Scotland?
[23:18] <StevenR> they're more converted/abandonned steadings in Scotland
[23:18] <hamitron> but no beer.....
[23:18] <hamitron> :/
[23:18] <Bomster> lol
[23:19] <StevenR> hamitron: you carry in whiskey.
[23:19] <Bomster> Multi puropse.
[23:19] <StevenR> or beer, but whiskey is "lighter"
[23:19] <hamitron> also less filling
[23:19] <hamitron> ;)
[23:19] <StevenR> :)
[23:20]  * hamitron would plan a route with pubs and/or campsites
[23:20] <Bomster> Beer is a freat recovery drink though
[23:20] <hamitron> or maybe a farm
[23:20] <Bomster> yeah, think my mates will want pubs and campsites
[23:21] <StevenR> Bomster: some are marked as "Refuges" like "Fords of Avon Refuge"... and they're just that. That particular one is a tin shack with a cairn built over it in big rocks to hold it down... with just enough space for about 4 people to sit in discomfort rather than die of exposure
[23:22] <Bomster> haha, is that a bothy?
[23:22] <StevenR> ?
[23:22] <Bomster> Refuge = bothy?
[23:22] <StevenR> no
[23:22] <Bomster> kk
[23:22] <StevenR> a bothy is an old house or steading that's a nice place to live
[23:22] <StevenR> or at least stay for a night
[23:23] <Bomster> So Pub>Campsite>Bothy>Refuge, lol?
[23:23] <Bomster> http://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/02/03/17/2031763_3e142263.jpg
[23:23] <StevenR> a refuge is a place you hide for a little while because it's better than dieing in the mountains. Like if you had to drag yourself somewhere to wait for the mountain rescue to rock up and stretcher you out.
[23:24] <hamitron> B&B also
[23:24] <hamitron> :)
[23:24] <StevenR> Bomster: is that the one? FoAR ?
[23:24] <Bomster> yeah
[23:24] <StevenR> I thought it was (been about 5 years since I went there)
[23:25] <StevenR> it's at the join of 4 valleys in the cairngorms. It's got no floor, it probably leaks a bit, etc.
[23:25] <StevenR> it's litterally a refuge
[23:25] <Bomster> apparantly it regurlaly has a few inches of water
[23:26] <Bomster> this is supposed to be a good read - http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mountain-Days-Bothy-Nights-Luath/dp/0946487154
[23:26] <StevenR> it's in a hugely accessible, but very exposed position
[23:26] <Bomster> Can you get OS maps from local libraries?
[23:27] <StevenR> dunno
[23:30] <Bomster> Also would you say Lake District > Peak District
[23:30] <StevenR> not been to the PD enough to say
[23:31] <Bomster> The Lakes are more mountainous I guess?
[23:40] <Bomster> Night guys, thanks alot for all the info and all your help. Cheers.
[23:40] <Bomster> nick Bomster|Away
[23:40] <Bomster> oooops
[23:40] <Bomsrer|Away> Def tired.


[09:30] <sakrecoer[m]> This affecting Studio aswell?
[09:30] <sakrecoer[m]> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-oem-osp1/+bug/1864061
[09:30] <sakrecoer[m]> reluctant to upgrade since it broke my ubuntu-mate machine's playback..
[09:36] <BitterSapphic> Hi! I was having some problems getting a storage drive from a windows OS working in read-write. Is this a good place to ask? I searched online but I couldn't get any solution to work
[09:49] <vlt> BitterSapphic: The general #ubuntu channel might be more appropriate. You could have a look at the pkg ntfs-3g.
[14:05] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer[m]: run the iso on a USB stick in live mode and try it out
[14:08] <sakrecoer[m]> <OvenWerks "徒 𝖘𝖊𝖙𝖙𝖔 セット🕸🏴: run the "> was going to ask if the iso conatined the 5.3.0-42-generic kernel... but of course it doesn't... it's another branch alltogether in Studio right? Lowlatency..?
[14:09] <OvenWerks> The iso only has the lowlatency. To try generic use xubuntu
[14:11] <OvenWerks> you can also try liquorix on you present setup as it is always the latest kernel.
[17:34] <LulatheSpaceship> welcomr the ubuntu studio users ;p
[17:37] <Eickmeyer> LulatheSpaceship: Do you have a support question?


[01:09] <semitones> hello
[01:10] <semitones> I'm trying to delete a top-level directory from ubuntu one
[01:10] <semitones> because it's taking up a lot of space
[01:10] <semitones> and I'd rather just sync some nested directories
[01:11] <semitones> I found a way (u1sdtool --delete-folder=FOLDER_ID) but I'm concerned that it's ambiguous whether this removes the folder locally or on the cloud only. Please advise, thanks!
[01:22] <semitones> I'm trying to remove ~/Documents from ubuntu one
[01:34] <semitones> I've encountered a problem
[01:34] <semitones> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5723187/
[01:34] <semitones> ~/testfolder is deleted fine, but ~/Documents is not.
[10:57] <popey> hmm, files don't seem to be uploading from my iphone...
[19:36] <Guest8717> o.k. am I one ubunut one? I have a question. I just recently signed up for Ubuntu one and am enjoying the free storage and read that I can refer my friends to this site and be able to earn extra storage. But, I can't read the https to go to on my dashboard. It is too long, and I can't click on it to make it work. What should I do?
[19:37] <Guest8717> Hey, my question got broken up. Sooo, I can't read the https. on my dashboard so I can refer my friends to Ubuntu one
[19:38] <Guest8717> I mean, the https is too long and I can't access it.
[19:48] <karen_> Hi, I recently joined ubuntu one and saw that I can refer friends using the https provided on my dash board. The https is too long and I can't access it. What should I do?
[20:14] <sirdancealo2> karen_, you can use mine: https://one.ubuntu.com/referrals/referee/82275/
[20:18] <karen_> o.k. but who are you, and how do I know everything will be private?
[20:21] <karen_> do you know how I can read all of my https?
[20:21] <sirdancealo2> karen_, right click it
[20:21] <sirdancealo2> you get a menu
[20:21] <sirdancealo2> use select all and copy
[20:22] <sirdancealo2> use paste in a blank adress bar
[20:23] <karen_> ohhh o.k. I'll try that.
[20:26] <sirdancealo2> the link is really what youre supposed to give your friends
[20:27] <karen_> ohh the link is what I give my friends, because, when I cut and paste and hit enter, it just sends me back to my dashboard. I see. I just send the link to my friends. right/
[20:28] <karen_> right?
[20:30] <sirdancealo2> right.
[20:31] <karen_> oh, thank you so much!


[02:17] <zul> heylo
[07:47] <mgalvin> BenC: just a heads up bug #28660 works for me now
[08:14] <BenC> mgalvin: thanks
[08:14] <mgalvin> np :)
[09:01] <mgalvin> BenC: last call stuff... a friend of mine uncovered 42621 this morning... i didn't get to look into it much yet, but it seems like low hanging fruit if you have time
[09:01] <mgalvin> i know other people will surely do that so it might be worth fixing
[11:04] <[g2] > is the development platform of choice Flight 6 ?
[11:05] <crimsun> no, it's current git
[11:06] <BenC> hey crimsun
[11:06] <crimsun> hey BenC :)
[11:07] <crimsun> BenC: there are some v9fs (apparently changed to 9p?) fixes in their git that would probably be good to get into our kernel
[11:07] <[g2] > crimsun the kernel tree is in git right
[11:07] <crimsun> [g2] : correct, the topic has a link
[11:08] <[g2] > right, read that. My question was what's the default build platform for building that
[11:08] <BenC> latest dapper
[11:09] <[g2] > BenC ok and that's flight 6 right ?
[11:10] <[g2] > Doh... I meant 6.06 the April 20 release
[11:12] <BenC> well, flight 6 plus an upgrade for all the packages
[11:14] <[g2] > BenC so is it flight 6 plus upgrade or 6.06 Beta ?
[11:15] <BenC> beta is latest
[11:15] <[g2] > BenC thx
[11:15] <BenC> if you install either and ugprade to latest packages, you'll end up in the same place
[11:16] <[g2] > as you should :)
[11:16] <[g2] > is anyone other than mjg59 playing with the Intel Macmini ?
[11:17] <BenC> he's the only one that I know of
[11:18] <[g2] > well I'm planning on getting DD going on the Intel Macmini so I guess that makes two :)


[01:03] <cmaloney> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[14:02] <ColonelPanic001> I also am not permitted to get to my gutters
[14:02] <ColonelPanic001> mainly by laziness and a mild bit of acrophobia
[14:33] <cmaloney> That is not a good combo
[15:29] <shakes808> Scary_Guy: sorry, didn't make it downtown this weekend.  how was it?
[15:33] <Scary_Guy> not a bad turnout, 85 people
[15:34] <Scary_Guy> no where as good as it used to be, sucks that 85 is "good" now
[15:34] <Scary_Guy> also, drama was minor so that was nice
[15:34] <jrwren> do they post playlists?
[15:35] <Scary_Guy> Charle's doesn't, but I do and my guest DJ actually kept one
[15:35] <Scary_Guy> as soon as I get to it I'll copy it off the laptop and send it to him, he can fill in the blanks and send it back
[15:35] <Scary_Guy> then I'll post itup
[15:35] <Scary_Guy> it-up*
[15:36] <cmaloney> \m/
[15:37] <Scary_Guy> |m| {-_-} |m|
[15:57]  * greg-g yawns
[15:58] <shakes808> awesome! would love to hear what you played.
[16:15] <Scary_Guy> fuck, my uptime is 54 days for my desktop system.  not my longest record but I'm still impressed when it happens
[18:54] <hates_pierce> haha, so i guess this changes in all the channels that I am in :)  Disregard the name change.  :D
[23:55] <gamerchick02> fsck fixed my laptop. woohoo!
[23:55] <jrwren> love that