[04:31] <rustycog> hi
[04:31] <rustycog> i have a tin-foil-hat kinda question, is there spyware in kubuntu like there was in ubuntu?
[04:38] <lethu> rustycog: never heard of spyware being in ubuntu
[04:43] <dax> if you mean the amazon unity stuff: no
[04:49] <rustycog> i have a tin-foil-hat kinda question, is there spyware in kubuntu like there was in ubuntu?
[04:51] <dax> if you mean the amazon unity stuff: no
[05:01] <rustycog> haha yes dax exactly
[05:01] <rustycog> so they aren't trying to sneak in stuff like that?  because I got discouraged using any canonical products after that fiasco
[05:02] <rustycog> but then I heard soemthing about canonical  getting all worked up with kubuntu
[05:02] <rustycog> and wanted to distance themselves from that project
[05:09] <dax> not that i know of, no
[05:09] <dax> (re: sneaking in stuff)
[06:39] <irctc428> Hey. I tried Kubuntu for the first time yesterday, but got a problem. Everything went fine, for cuple of hours, but suddenly it just froze. The SSD led stopped flashing. I used the physical off button to reboot, but a few seconds after login the same thing happened, over and over. Anyone ever experienced this?
[06:40] <irctc428> Kubuntu 16.04 LTS 64-bi
[06:40] <irctc428> t
[06:43] <hateball> irctc428: Does ~/.xsession-errors contain anything exciting?
[06:43] <hateball> irctc428: what GPU/driver are you using?
[06:45] <irctc428> I have no accessible logs at the moment as I reinstalled with Xubuntu to see if it's more stable.
[06:45] <irctc428> The GPU is an intergrated Intel Skylake
[06:45] <irctc428> Driver is just what Kubuntu installed for me
[06:46] <irctc428> The GPU driver is what I suspected mysel
[06:46] <irctc428> f
[06:49] <hateball> irctc428: you do know you could have just "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" rather than reinstall the entire system
[06:50] <hateball> irctc428: And if you're not running Plasma, as well have no logs, I don't see how we can help
[06:51] <irctc428> No, it froze 2 seconds in after every login..
[06:51] <hateball> there are issues with kwin vsync and intel gpus, that much I know
[06:53] <irctc428> I did boot into recovery mode, so logs were accessible then. I will try to reinstall at a later point, and want to know what to look for then.
[06:53] <irctc428> would it be the same to "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" from xubuntu?
[06:54] <irctc428> Then I'll just get to choose which to boot in grub?
[06:59] <calher> How do I get an on-screen keyboard and an icon to activate it in the task bar?
[06:59] <calher> or bottom panel, or w/e
[07:08] <makinen> anyone using tiling kwin script?
[07:09] <makinen> it breaks gvim :(
[07:11] <calher> > gvim
[07:11] <calher> kek
[07:12] <hateball> makinen: any reason you'd use gvim instead of kate with vim bindings?
[07:12] <hateball> under plasma, that is
[07:14] <calher> Yeah, or just regular Vim?
[07:14] <calher> or <Censored>
[07:14] <makinen> I've been using gvim for years
[07:15] <makinen> does kate even have the same functionality as gvim even with the vim bindings
[07:15] <calher> As a Vim user, I found GVim to be a tacky terminal emulator for Vim.
[07:16] <makinen> regular vim doesn't have tabs :)
[07:18] <calher> makinen: I see tabs at https://vimuser.org/
[07:21] <makinen> can I switch between them by clicking one?
[07:21] <makinen> theyre buffers instead of tabs though
[07:21] <calher> > editing text
[07:21] <calher> > clicking
[07:21] <calher> DOES_NOT_COMPUTE
[07:22] <calher> The only person who's allowed to click while editing text is Ken.
[07:22] <calher> Because ACME.
[07:23] <makinen> well, I'm using a browser at the same time when I'm coding in vim
[07:24] <calher> frecel: Do you use GVim?
[07:24] <makinen> clicking tabs fits just fine to my workflow
[07:24] <calher> But GVim...
[07:25] <calher> It's the tackiest GUI I've ever seen.  Emacs at least makes the GUI a full experience in its own right.
[07:26] <calher> When I used Vim, I only used GVim because it was the only version of Vim I could run from a flash drive.
[07:26] <calher> (At school)
[07:27] <makinen> I'm open to suggestions for replacing it
[07:27] <makinen> tabs and open file menu are probably the only reasons why I prefer gvim over regular vim
[07:30] <makinen> oh and sometimes I use a menu action for splitting the window because I don't remember the corresponding vim command
[07:33] <calher> makinen: ask vimuser @ #librespeech
[07:33] <calher> im not up to speed on vim, i use emacs
[07:33] <calher> at least, now i do
[07:33] <calher> i'm intending to practice vim soon tho
[07:37] <user|85067> hi guys
[07:38] <calher> Hi.
[07:38] <user|85067> I am having trouble dual-booting Kubuntu 16.04 alongside Windows 10. I installed Kubuntu 16.04 maybe a month ago and the installation went fine, but now, after the partitioning screen, just as the installation is actually starting, it tells me it can't unmount /cdrom.
[07:38] <user|85067> Has anyone else encountered something similar?
[07:59] <xieyi> how could I delete widget from command line
[08:00] <xieyi> I found how to do it in kde 4 http://askubuntu.com/questions/171119/how-to-control-kde-4-9-0-plasma-widgets-from-command-line
[08:01] <xieyi> but it doesnt work in kde 5
[08:04] <acheron_uk> plasma config files have moved to ~/.config/ in plasma 5
[08:46] <makinen> how can I replace kwin with something else?
[08:50] <TomTom> good morning. any idea when kmail 5.2.x will be available in xenial backports? this khtml/kmail bug which prevents the rendering of inline images is very annoying :-)
[09:20] <hateball> makinen: go into "standard programs" and set a different window manager
[09:21] <hateball> why anyone runs plasma without kwin however boggles the mind
[09:22] <makinen> there is no good tiling support in kwin :(/
[09:27] <makinen> I can't find "standard programs" settings is it in system settings?
[09:30] <hateball> makinen: hmmm, I just search in krunner
[09:31] <makinen> it won
[09:32] <makinen> it won't find it either
[09:40] <hateball> makinen: /usr/bin/kcmshell5 componentchooser
[09:50] <makinen> hateball: thx can I replace kwin without logging out?
[09:58] <hateball> makinen: well you can run whateverWM --replace most likely
[10:04] <acheron_uk> 'kcmshell5 componentchooser' in terminal should get you to http://i.imgur.com/wF8sBEO.png
[10:08] <DarkDays> Hi
[10:09] <DarkDays> Anyone know how to launch the kubuntu desktop on a vps?
[10:11] <makinen> I restarted it but I'm not sure if awesome was running instead of kwin :p
[10:12] <makinen> maybe I just fix some bugs in the tiling script
[10:46] <smusic> hi guys, i'm here for the third time since yesterday... i haven't managed to fix kubuntu 16.04 installation issues yet
[10:46] <smusic> Anyone here?
[10:46] <hateball> smusic: What are your issues?
[10:47] <smusic> hateball: As soon as I click Install Now (after choosing partition scheme), I get an error that /cdrom cannot be unmounted. I am installing from a USB stick.
[10:47] <smusic> Apparently, one of the existing (Windows) partitions is mounted at /cdrom.
[10:47] <smusic> I have no idea why.
[10:49] <hateball> smusic: oh so it's a dualboot? not touched that in a decade+ so I dont really have any idea
[10:50] <hateball> smusic: tried searching launchpad?
[10:50] <smusic> Yeah, I've tried googleing, no luck. I was able to find that other people have had the issue, but their workarounds proved ineffective.
[10:51] <hateball> smusic: and the windows os is properly shut off and not left hibernating?
[10:51] <smusic> The weirdest part is that I've already installed Kubuntu 16.04 about a month ago, and it worked.
[10:51] <hateball> I remember someone talking about that causing trouble
[10:51] <smusic> Yup. I've had multiple distros before this.
[10:53] <smusic> Why does Kubuntu LiveCD mount existing partitions?
[10:54] <smusic> Well, it mounted only of the existing partitions.
[10:56] <chinmoy> hi folks
[11:12] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:07] <tessio_> hello..
[12:07] <tessio_> it there any plans for Qt 5.6.1 on Kubuntu 16.04 via PPA?
[12:09] <tessio_> I'm waiting for the multi monitor fix to finally jump on the Plasma5 bus
[12:13] <chinmoy> i have just started wirting a patch for a bug in plasma. will anyone  tell me what should be my course of action after i have completed coding the patch ?
[12:14] <yossarianuk> chinmoy: good man (sorry not sure of the process), thanks for working on KDE
[12:15] <mparillo> I would guess step 1. is to get a KDE Identity: https://identity.kde.org/
[12:15] <chinmoy> mparillo: well i think i have completed step 1.
[12:16] <mparillo> Step 2 is to join #kde-devel and #plasma and ask there.
[12:16] <chinmoy> ok :p
[12:17] <mparillo> If the bug has a number on bugs.kde.org, I would offer your patch there, and reference it in the channels.
[12:17] <chinmoy> i was thinking whether there are some general steps one must follow after writing a patch.
[12:47] <irctc370> Hey. What is the GUI in kubuntu called? Is it KDE or Plasma? What is Plasma in relationship to KDE?
[12:48] <BluesKaj> !plasma
[12:48] <irctc370> !plasma
[12:48] <BluesKaj> !info plasma
[12:49] <BluesKaj> !plasma-desktop
[12:49] <BluesKaj> !info plasma-desktop
[12:49] <BluesKaj> optional?
[12:52] <BluesKaj> think the bot info needs some updating
[12:53] <Pici> BluesKaj: why do you say that?
[12:54] <BluesKaj> try installing the OS without plasma
[12:55] <irctc370> So what is Plasma?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> irctc370, https://www.kde.org/workspaces/plasmadesktop/
[12:58] <irctc370> Yeah, I kind of understand that it's the GUI, but what is KDE then?
[12:59] <irctc370> And I can also read about that on wikipedia or whatever, but I still don't really understand the difference
[13:00] <EvilRoey> KDE is a framework including Plasma, under-the-hood engines for various important things and libraries for programs
[13:01] <EvilRoey> irctc370: plasma is the name of the desktop user interface
[13:01] <EvilRoey> irctc370: programs can be written using KDE libraries, and they are called KDE programs
[13:01] <irctc370> Ok, so KDE without Plasma is just a cli?
[13:01] <irctc370> "just"
[13:01] <EvilRoey> irctc370: you can use KDE in the CLI yes
[13:01] <EvilRoey> KDE without Plasma still involves things like KWin
[13:02] <EvilRoey> kwin is the window manager
[13:02] <BluesKaj> but it's not just a cli
[13:02] <EvilRoey> plasma is the panel and desktop widgets
[13:02] <irctc370> Does Plasma run on top of kwin?
[13:03] <BluesKaj> more like within
[13:03] <Pici> BluesKaj: the bot is not specific to Kubuntu.  None of the desktop packages are required.  iirc, only things that are part of the base install, like bash, are required
[13:05] <irctc370> Can I start plasma from xubuntu? I have installed kubuntu-desktop from apt-get.
[13:05] <BluesKaj> Pici, yeah , but kubuntu is going in a different direction than ubuntu , think some of the info should be more specific to kubuntu in the kubuntu chat..it's confusing otherwise
[13:06] <antix> on 16.04 how do I  (1) get rid of a note on my desktop, (2) get the notes applet to stop making notes when I middle click the desktop?
[13:07] <Pici> BluesKaj: as long as it uses the same ubuntu repositories, I can't tell it to do otherwise.
[13:09] <BluesKaj> Pici, yeah that's an unfortunate setup, the flavours should have their info db
[13:09] <BluesKaj> own info db
[13:18] <antix> answer: right click the non-existant "titlebar" on the note to get the option to close it, lock widgets on the desktop to stop the middle click behavior
[14:00] <DclRules> I'm having trouble with akonadi and its related packages. I'm thinking its a patch problem with Kubuntu because it is using some weird switches when it calls mysql as it starts. So how do you report such a bug?
[14:54] <elezium> I was browsing the KDE Configuration and I see a choice for the Renedering backend: XRender, OpenGL.. which one is faster?
[14:57] <BluesKaj> elezium, usually OpenGL, but that depends on your gpu capabilities
[14:58] <elezium> nvidia 970
[14:58] <elezium> openGL, I believe?
[14:58] <BluesKaj> yup
[14:58] <elezium> Thanks sir.
[14:58] <elezium> Another one.. I can't find where the ctrl-f9 is mapped.. any clue?
[14:59] <BluesKaj> that card should handle 3.1
[14:59] <elezium> k. I just swtiched to 3 1..
[15:00] <BluesKaj> elezium, no idea about ctl+ F9
[15:00] <elezium> haa! found the f9!
[15:00] <BluesKaj> does nothing here, it's not mapped to anything
[15:02] <elezium> http://imgur.com/F9QYKa2
[15:03] <rattking> elezium: system settings, shortcuts, global keyboard shortcuts, kde component system settings
[15:04] <rattking> buried way way down
[15:04] <BluesKaj> ok , but i don't bother withg KB shortcuts
[15:04] <elezium> I don't bother much.. except when they overlap with the software I use ;)
[15:04] <BluesKaj> not many anyway
[15:04]  * rattking <3's keyboard short cuts
[15:05] <elezium> I just use the basics one, really.
[15:06] <elezium> but Ctrl-f9 = Make in IntelliJ so.
[15:12] <solomongrey> 这是什么？怎么象聊天室？
[15:13] <solomongrey> ？？？
[15:59] <Mrokii> Hello. I have a problem. I've recently installed Kubuntu 16.04 on a laptop but forgot my password so I went into the Greb-menu to get into the root-console to set a new password (which seemed to work). But when I tried to enter the password on the graphical login-screen, the login-button becomes greyed out (every button as it seems), I can't reboot or relog and the mouse cursor turns to something resembling
[15:59] <Mrokii> an X.
[15:59] <Mrokii> I'm not sure if it's related to the password change, but the last time I used the laptop (before the password-change) I was able to log in without problems.
[16:38] <Guest67352> If I choose guided installation and select my disk, it said the partiation table on another disk will be changed as well, why is that_
[16:38] <Guest67352> It isnt listing that disk as going to be formatte
[16:38] <Guest67352> d
[16:39] <Guest67352> http://i.imgur.com/sC6myV1.jpg
[16:40] <genii> !vivid
[17:09] <Guest67352> bagh, why cant I access my HDD\s from live
[19:20] <kaleul> Hi my friends
[19:21] <kaleul> Could you help me about choice a new linux distribution?
[19:21] <kaleul> Well, sorry for a poor english., I'm a Martian
[19:22] <kaleul> so, I buy a new Think pad L450, i7 and etc,. installed a Mint KDE 17.3
[19:22] <ikonia> kaleul: we only support kubuntu here sorry
[19:22] <ikonia> we don't help you with other distros
[19:23] <kaleul> Yeah, i need to know if change Kunbutu then a Mint KDE is a great choice
[19:23] <ikonia> what ?
[19:24] <kaleul> I installed a new Kubuntu 16,, on Virtual BOX
[19:24] <ikonia> ok ?
[19:24] <kaleul> I liked
[19:24] <ikonia> great
[19:25] <kaleul> Look a very bealtyful and Stable, peharps a Kernel
[19:25] <ikonia> perhaps a kernel ?
[19:26] <kaleul> and a Unbutu 16, and Plasma
[19:26] <ikonia> sorry - I don't understand what you are asking
[19:26] <kaleul> sorry,, wait please
[19:27] <kaleul> I want to test Kubuntu, because the Mint won't Hibernate
[19:27] <ikonia> ok ?
[19:27] <kaleul> Is a resource that i use a lot of time for day
[19:28] <ikonia> so test it ?
[19:28] <kaleul> but don't run
[19:28] <ikonia> what doesn't run ?
[19:28] <kaleul> I dont know, maybe the older Kernel
[19:28] <kaleul> Ubuntu 14 based
[19:29] <ikonia> what ?
[19:29] <ikonia> you're installing kubuntu 16.04 - but saying it's 14 based ?
[19:30] <kaleul> my Mint dont Hibernate because maybe have a older Kernel Ubuntu 14 based
[19:30] <kaleul> You know?
[19:30] <ikonia> I don't care about your mint problem
[19:30] <ikonia> as I said - we do not support mint
[19:31] <kaleul> Well, the Kunbutu support center is in UK?
[19:31] <ikonia> support center ?
[19:31] <ikonia> kaleul: what is it you need help with ?
[19:32] <BluesKaj> methinks he needs help with making up his mind:-)
[19:32] <kaleul> some informations,
[19:33] <ikonia> what information do you want
[19:33] <kaleul> about release,. if i install a Kubuntu, and come a great upgrade,, I need reinstall ?
[19:33] <ikonia> no
[19:34] <kaleul> or provide a simple upgrade
[19:34] <kaleul> Well
[19:34] <ikonia> simple
[19:35] <kaleul> My another question gone because I saw a text above
[19:35] <kaleul> Our commercial support is provided in the UK by Emerge Open.
[19:36] <ikonia> yes, if you have a comercial support contract a business center will support and help you
[19:37] <kaleul> Good
[19:40] <kaleul> What about a Hibernation? My new Thinkpad L450 goes hibernate on Kunbutu 16?
[19:41] <ikonia> kaleul: try it
[19:49] <kaleul> Thanks a lot my friends!!
[19:52] <OerHeks> kaleul, have fun
[20:43] <calher>  /go #debian
[20:43] <Pici> goooo banana
[20:53] <allesz_> I have a weird issue here with my kubuntu 16.04 install. If I switch between apps and start typing it takes sometimes up to 7 s to see the written context. could it be that there is something wrong with the task switcher?  I am using Cover Switch.
[20:53] <allesz_> this is happening for example switching from evolution to calligra sheets
[20:55] <allesz_> I hope not but could it be that switching between QT and GTK apps that there is a time penalty. The typed text doesnt get lost it appears but very late.
[21:17] <allesz_> hmmm could be also plank's fault.
[21:46] <kfh> after upgrading from kubuntu 14.10 to 15.04 the plasma login screen won't let me change the login account.  how do i change the default account on the plasma login screen?
[22:01] <goddard> kfh: you can try the arrow keys
[22:17] <somekool> khn 15.04 ? upgrade to 16.04
[22:36] <TBotNik> all: All, Trying to fix problem I posted at: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5558619#post5558619
[22:50] <OerHeks> TBotNik, 2 ranges? eth0 IP: x.y.1.198 and eth0:0 IP: x.y.3.200 ??
[22:51] <TBotNik> OerHeks: 2nd is forced by CloneZilla!
[22:53] <TBotNik> OerHeks: Think that gives a virtual machine/node, not sure why, never ever been successful in making Clonezilla work!


[12:30] <yano> https://pyohio.org/
[12:30] <jenni> [ PyOhio | Welcome ] - https://pyohio.org
[19:44] <thafreak> I'll be at pyohio
[19:44] <thafreak> fwiw
[19:45] <Unit193> I won't.


[11:45] <xu-help96w> hello there
[11:45] <xu-help96w> i need help
[12:33] <twinsenbrim> #ubuntu-kr
[14:02] <xubuntu50d> Hello. I have a problem with my screen flickering on the login screen. It happens when i logout, or lock the screen. Seems to be a known problem - does anybody have a solution. Im running xubuntu 23.04
[14:09] <xubuntu50d> anyone ?
[19:40] <xu-help60w> Hi, I've a little problem with my computer since this morning. I don't know where I can found the list of the bug founded for this distribution. When I'm starting my computer, after the Grub menu, the boot just crash with "an error": "Dev loop0 enable to read RDB block 8". After many searches on internet, I don't know exactly why this problem
[19:40] <xu-help60w> appears after an update of my computer and how I can solve it.
[19:54] <Chris22> Hello. Can someone please tell me, if you create a channel here, is it possible to save the messages so that when someone enters the chat, the messages are displayed?
[20:05] <tomreyn> Chris22: for questions reling to this irc network, try #libera
[20:06] <tomreyn> *relATing


[20:39] <jmichaelx> yofel: yea, it suit smy purposes.... i was most interested in being able to use vdpau. i am trying to keep my carbon footprint as low as possible (which is not all that low at times), and am using two dual-core atom machines at my work desk
[20:39] <Creap> Hi, I had 2 disks in Software RAID in a previous install (openSUSE), just installed Kubuntu 11.10 and not sure how to mount them. There's no option in the KDE Partition Manager to mount the partitions on those 2 disks
[20:39] <szal> does that include the new KMal?
[20:40] <melodie> My screen isn't formated right :/ it is a little off.
[20:40] <szal> !ask | BarkingFish
[20:40] <szal> erm, wrong nick..  I meant melodie
[20:40] <jmichaelx> melodie: in what way?
[20:41] <yofel> melodie: still?
[20:41] <melodie> It edges go a little more outward then they should. And it is getting a little annoying.
[20:41] <yofel> szal: yes, oneiric has kmail2 (read link in topic before upgrading)
[20:41] <melodie> yofel: Nope, I fixed the graphics problem
[20:42] <BarkingFish> yofel, maybe we should tell people about akonadiconsole too, since it might help with any issues starting or getting kmail2 to work :)
[20:42] <melodie> yofel: But the screen and multiple destops still don't work
[20:42] <yofel> BarkingFish: hm... akonaditray was supposed to be used for that :/
[20:43] <jmichaelx> yofel: why do the package name for these themes say gtk2?
[20:43] <BarkingFish> yofel, akonaditray doesn't help, the configuration is fine, but the akonadiconsole allows you to restart individual bits which aren't running
[20:44] <BarkingFish> I'd say that makes it an asset, possibly should be put in as a package which should come down at the same time as akonadi, instead of having to go get it when you realise you need it :)
[20:45] <yofel> jmichaelx: because they're gtk2 themes?
[20:45] <yofel> afaik there is only 1 gtk3 theme in the archive
[20:45] <BarkingFish> This is only personal opinion, but I don't see what the need was to move kmail over to akonadi & nepomuk, it worked fine before :)
[20:45] <jmichaelx> and which is that?
[20:45] <BarkingFish> If it ain't broke, don't break it.
[20:45] <yofel> jmichaelx: gtk3-engines-...
[20:45] <yofel> ... something
[20:45] <szal> yofel: looks like it's safer to do the migration manually
[20:46] <yofel> szal: exactly
[20:46] <BarkingFish> szal, be warned, the migration tool doesn't always work from the CLI either :)
[20:47] <szal> BarkingFish: I'm gonna do a full system backup anyway before upgrading
[20:47] <jmichaelx> yofel: ok, do i need to be using this gtk3 engine... which was apparently not needed in < natty?
[20:47] <szal> right now I'm running do-release-upgrade on my other machine..  got nothing to lose there, so I thought I could give it a go as well ^^
[20:47] <yofel> jmichaelx: if you use gtk3 apps and want them to look better than gtk1 - yes
[20:48] <yofel> jmichaelx: and that's beacause before oneiric practically nothing used gtk3
[20:48] <yofel> jmichaelx: and oxygen/gtk3 isn't released yet, albeit usable IMO
[20:48] <jmichaelx> yofel: where do you get oxygen/gtk3?
[20:49] <yofel> jmichaelx: selfbuilding - git clone git://anongit.kde.org/oxygen-gtk - git checkout gtk3 - then read the INSTALL file
[20:49] <yofel> and README
[20:49] <jmichaelx> ok, ty
[20:50] <jmichaelx> i may not bother right now, as i highly doubt this is even related to most of the issues i'm having
[20:50] <yofel> nah, only gtk3 apps looking bad
[20:52] <jmichaelx> ok, i just installed cheese on a second machine (with the intel GPU) even though there is no webcam there. it fires right up (just like miro does).... something is royally screwed up on the nvidia machine regarding gtk apps
[21:04] <Creap> davcleme: I have installed the mdadm package, is it some kind of driver that partition manager can use or should I use the cli?
[21:05] <finger> Hello! I've got a small question. I started to use Kubuntu just recently and I can't seem to find such a thing like separator for desktop panels. I tried hard to find it, but I just can't. Can somebody point me to solution?
[21:06] <Creap> davcleme: wrong channel sorry
[21:08] <finger> I mean separator like in toolbar. Just a vertical line of fixed witdh and clearly visible. I like to have diferrent widgets separated. And it's really annoying not to have that item...
[21:13] <spacebug-> if I can change how much the volume inc/dec in KDE when using my keyboard then where do I do that?
[21:16] <finger> !ru
[21:16] <szal> hmm..  what repo to enable for continuous KDE (version) updates?  kubuntu-ppa or backports ppa?
[21:18] <szal> (iow, the one that will get 4.7.2 when it's out and pkg'd)
[21:19] <spacebug-> szal: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/ppa
[21:19] <yofel> szal: kubuntu-ppa/ppa already has 4.7.2
[21:19] <yofel> for oneiric that is
[21:23] <szal> upgrade on other machine seems to have gone smoothly all the way despite an internet connection interruption
[21:24] <jmichaelx> looks like it is reinstall time for this thingl,+-+89`-+---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------     +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
[21:24] <jmichaelx> whoops... sorry about that
[21:24] <PrivateReese> hey guys can someone please answer one question about "Ubuntu Distribution Hosting"
[21:24] <PrivateReese> ?
[21:24] <szal> !ask | PrivateReese
[21:24] <giantpune> hi, i am running the kubuntu 11.04 -> 11.10 update.  it is spitting out a lot of errors while trying to update the ssl certs.
[21:24] <szal> PrivateReese: and please elaborate what you mean by "Ubuntu Distribution Hosting"
[21:25] <jmichaelx> lol, how knocking my keyboard down produced what it just did, i do not know lol
[21:25] <giantpune> there must be about 200 errors where it tried to add a cert and failed.  anybody know if this is normal?
[21:25] <PrivateReese> I have some freee Webspace or even a Webserver, i want to "Host" Ubuntu and Distributions on it
[21:26] <szal> jmichaelx: looks like it lay on the - and + keys of the numpad
[21:26] <PrivateReese> is it legal to do so or do I have to get Permission??
[21:26] <jmichaelx> szal: apparently so
[21:27] <szal> PrivateReese: the install media are freely redistributable; you can host them on your own webspace, burn to CDs and give away or even sell..
[21:28] <szal> PrivateReese: unless you modify them to include software that is not freely redistributable, that is
[21:28] <PrivateReese> so i just can mirror all Ubuntu or other Linux Distributions? Can I also take part in the "Main Ubuntu Download Link" where there choose a Server to Download from e.g. a University Server
[21:32] <BarkingFish> PrivateReese, if you want to set up a mirror of your own, follow this :)
[21:32] <BarkingFish> !newmirror | PrivateReese
[21:33] <PrivateReese> hey thanks a lot ;-)
[21:34] <BarkingFish> you're welcome, thank ubuntu's ops too, they pointed me at the message link :)
[21:35] <jmichaelx> yofel: in case you're interested, i believe the problem i am having has nothing to do with gtk.... it is another audio problem
[21:35] <yofel> audio o.O?
[21:36] <jmichaelx> yofel: yes. maybe you remember that yesterday, phonon had set my webcam mic as my default audio device (very stupid)
[21:36] <yofel> yep
[21:38] <jmichaelx> yofel: i think it was you who told me to use kcmshell4 to fix that.... anyways, since rebooting, things are again configured wrongly, and in the phonon settings the devices are not even listed anymore, only pulseaudio is listed
[21:38] <yofel> ...
[21:38] <ashwin> After update klipper is not working properly.how can i make in work?
[21:38] <cachemem> I am sorry again. I see a conversation here, but I want to get a little attention too. I want a separator like in toolbars for my desktop panels. I can't seem to find such a feature. It's really a problem for me. Can anybody point me to a solution?
[21:39] <jmichaelx> this whole pulseaudio and pulseaudio+phonon business is another matter on which volumes could be written about their dysfunctionality
[21:40] <jmichaelx> yofel: would you have an idea how i could get phonon to show my devices?
[21:40] <yofel> cachemem: I don't think there are seperators for the panel, only spacers
[21:41] <yofel> jmichaelx: no, I'm happy as long phonon works, I always just set it to use pulse
[21:41] <jmichaelx> yofel: you are aware that often does not work, aren't you?
[21:42] <jmichaelx> i wonder why my devices showed yesterday, and today they don't
[21:43] <jmichaelx> the freaking thing reset my default audio device to be my hdmi audio, which i am not using
[21:43] <cachemem> yofel: that is very sad...
[21:44] <yofel> jmichaelx: it works perfectly fine on my eeePC - but on my thinkpad I have that exact issue with my HDMI slot -.-*
[21:44] <ashwin> After update klipper is not working properly.Now history is always empty.i cannot copy text from one app to other.How can i fix it?
[21:44] <jmichaelx> yofel: how did you fix that (providing you did get it fixed)?
[21:45] <yofel> jmichaelx: not really, I set it to use internal analog stereo (for every setting I could fine), and it usually sticks to that
[21:45] <BarkingFish> This is not fun. I have another problem now. Why am I unable to install kpackagekit?  I try from cli to install using sudo apt-get install kpackagekit and get this:
[21:45] <BarkingFish>  kpackagekit : Depends: apper but it is not going to be installed
[21:45] <BarkingFish> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[21:45] <jmichaelx> yofel: i do not have that option... i have NO options
[21:46] <yofel> BarkingFish: refresh your cache? apper is in universe
[21:46] <BarkingFish> I have apper already installed
[21:46] <yofel> jmichaelx: ok... that's new
[21:47] <jmichaelx> yofel: it isn't new. people complain about this all the time
[21:47] <cachemem> Then I will write my own separator widget next weekend :D
[21:47] <jmichaelx> yofel: i should have said that i have one option 'pulseaudio'
[21:48] <yofel> meh, you need someone that knows more about phonon than I do :/
[21:48] <jmichaelx> i still want to know why my devices would show one day, and not the next
[21:48] <jmichaelx> phonon should not exist
[21:48] <szal> in Oneiric kpackagekit is obsolete
[21:49] <cachemem> Thanks a lot, anyway
[21:49] <szal> if I saw correctly while upgrading my other machine
[21:49] <yofel> BarkingFish: uh... that error doesn't make sense then. But what szal says is correct
[21:49] <ufmblan> hey folks. I upgraded to 11.10 and now have no network devices available. can someone please help
[21:49] <yofel> jmichaelx: phonon should very much exist, pulse shouldn't exist
[21:49] <BarkingFish> oh great. Why mess with stuff which works...?
[21:49] <yofel> BarkingFish: kpackagekit was renamed to apper
[21:49] <jmichaelx> yofel: i do hate pulseaudio
[21:50] <BarkingFish> yofel, it doesn't have the same functionality as kpackagekit
[21:50] <jmichaelx> but i hate a lot of things right now.... pulseaudio, akonadi, nepomuk
[21:50] <yofel> BarkingFish: ask the developer, nothing that was done from the kubuntu side
[21:50] <BarkingFish> the edit origins button has gone, the list of what pools you have is gone
[21:50] <jmichaelx> i am anti-semantic desktop
[21:50] <jmichaelx> :-D
[21:50] <BarkingFish> jmichaelx, I'm with you on this.  I want something which works
[21:51] <BarkingFish> At the moment, after 2 hours on oneiric, I can say with all honesty, this doesn't.
[21:51] <yofel> hm, kde1 was classic
[21:51] <BarkingFish> so since apper clearly doesn't have what I want, does anyone know where it went?
[21:52] <yofel> what?
[21:52] <BarkingFish> the edit origins feature, and the list of pools you can check or uncheck
[21:52] <jmichaelx> i have a younger brother who has been using windowmaker since the late 90's... only window manager he'll use, and he wastes a lot less time with that than i am right now with kde
[21:52]  * yofel installs apper
[21:53] <jmichaelx> i had never heard of apper until yesterday
[21:53] <jmichaelx> i still miss (the old) adept
[21:53] <jmichaelx> now i either use aptitude or synaptic
[21:53] <BarkingFish> i want kpackagekit back. I don't care if I have to totally reinstall natty.
[21:53] <yofel> BarkingFish: I believe what you want to run is: kdesudo software-properties-kde
[21:54] <jmichaelx> BarkingFish: i don't know why anyone would want kpackagekit back
[21:54]  * yofel neither
[21:54] <jimmy51> i just downloaded digikam on my PC and am trying to import pics from my canon SD500.  i'm getting failure to connect to camera errors, even though digikam has worked for me in the past.  googling shows 5 year old posts indicating a permissions issue but nothing recent.
[21:54] <jimmy51> where should i start?
[21:54] <yofel> kpackagekit sucked here - which was mostly packagkit's fault, not kpackagekit's
[21:54] <BarkingFish> sorry, when you're used to something, you're used to it, you know it backwards, and you know it works.
[21:54]  * jmichaelx also hates packagekit
[21:54] <yofel> BarkingFish: use muon (the package manager)
[21:54] <BarkingFish> and yofel - that's not what I needed
[21:55] <yofel> not the SC
[21:55] <BarkingFish> i just tried it, the features I'm looking for are not there either
[21:55] <yofel> well what do you need? I never remember seeing a pool view in kpackagekit
[21:56] <yofel> "origins" for me a software repositories - which software-properties-kde is for
[21:56] <yofel> s/a/are/
[21:57] <BarkingFish> on the left, the third link, under Software updates, took you to the software properties. There was also a box which popped up listing which deb things you had listed, and checkboxes down the side so you could enable or disable them.  Under it was a button marked "Edit origins"
[21:57] <sburjan`> hello. Does anybody know why I don't have no icon on my desktop even if I have stuff in /home/user/Desktop ?
[21:58] <BarkingFish> sburjan`, You need to right click on the desktop, and select Folder view settings
[21:58] <yofel> sburjan`: you're not using a folder view layout for your desktop, but the standard desktop layout
[21:58] <ufmblan> can anyone offer help on a networking issue on 11
[21:58] <ufmblan> 11.10
[21:59] <jmichaelx> ufmblan: what is the issue?
[21:59] <sburjan`> yofel: I understand, so how can I switch the layout ?
[21:59] <BarkingFish> on the right of the box which pops up, you will see a dropdown marked "Layout", sburjan` - click it and select folder view - apply that, then click on Location on the left
[21:59] <yofel> as BarkingFish said
[21:59] <BarkingFish> the very first button on the right, at the top, says "show desktop folder". Click it, apply it, and your icons will appear on your desktop
[22:00] <jmichaelx> why in the world would phonon(or pulseaudio) have decided to change my default audio device from what i had told it to yesterday?
[22:01] <ufmblan> jmichaelx: tried to enable wireless and caused there to be no network devices available
[22:01] <jmichaelx> ufmblan: is this a fresh install, or an upgrade?
[22:01] <ufmblan> upgrade
[22:02] <sburjan`> BarkingFish: I right-click on desktop, and I have: Run Command, Add WIdgets, Add Panel, Activities, Lock Widgets, Lock Screen, Leave, Desktop Settings
[22:02] <jmichaelx> ufmblan: and your wireles device had been working before the upgrade, i presume?
[22:02] <ufmblan> yeah
[22:02] <yofel> sburjan`: desktop settings
[22:03] <BarkingFish> sburjan`, which version of Kubuntu are you on?
[22:03] <ufmblan> jmichaelx: whenever I upgrade I need to do some driver installing to get the wireless back running
[22:03] <jmichaelx> ufmblan: on each machine that i upgraded, i had to redo my wireless settings in the plasma widgets, as my old one had been lost (pissed me off), but after that, i was back in business.... have you tried to do that?
[22:03] <sburjan`> yofel, BarkingFish: thanks. this is my first time in KDE, sorry for my noobness
[22:03] <jmichaelx> ufmblan: ahh, ok
[22:04] <jmichaelx> ufmblan: what chipset does you wireless device use?
[22:04] <jimmy51> maybe i should ask a different question..... what is an app recommended for Kubuntu users to retrieve and manage digital photos from a camera connected via USB?
[22:04] <BarkingFish> sburjan`, Don't worry. After the changes KDE have made in our new version, a lot of us feel like this is our first time using KDE :)
[22:04] <yofel> jimmy51: there's kamera and digikam
[22:04] <BarkingFish> It certainly seems that way anyhow
[22:04] <ufmblan> jmichaelx: not sure, I'm a noob. broadcom is the name of the driver
[22:05] <jimmy51> yofel: i'm trying to use digikam but it fails to connect to my canon powershot.  it has worked in the past on another kubuntu box i had so i don't know what's going on.
[22:05] <jmichaelx> ufmblan: ok, have you tried to use jockey to find the driver for you?
[22:05] <ufmblan> jmichaelx: no, how do I do that?
[22:06] <yofel> jimmy51: not sure then, can dolphin open the camera?
[22:06] <jmichaelx> ufmblan: look in your menu for something that says 'additional drivers'
[22:06] <yofel> jimmy51: or does the device manager show it?
[22:06] <ufmblan> jmichaelx: I'm the settings for additional drivers, I enable the broadcom driver but I still have no wireless.
[22:07] <jmichaelx> ufmblan: obviously you will need to be connected to a wired network
[22:07] <jmichaelx> ufmblan: ok, you've already been there
[22:07] <jimmy51> yofel: i get the device connected notice in the lower right and can click to mount it.  it shows up as Canon Powershot whatever PTP mode.
[22:07] <jimmy51> it shows no files though.
[22:08] <yofel> hm, not sure then, I usually use a flash reader to copy images
[22:08] <ufmblan> jmixhaelx: yeah. it does nothing. when upgrading to 11.04, I had to do something with the b43 packages in synaptic
[22:08] <jmichaelx> ufmblan: i am going to recommend that you check the forums on this one... you need to have the exact details of your chipset
[22:08] <jmichaelx> ufmblan: is this in a laptop?
[22:08] <ufmblan> jmichaelx: yeah I tried that but nobody responds
[22:08] <ufmblan> yes
[22:09] <jmichaelx> in a terminal, 'lspci | grep -i wireless' should give you the info you need
[22:09] <jmichaelx> ufmblan: you need to search the forums, not start a new thread
[22:10] <ufmblan> jmichaelx: I'm thinking that its something wrong with a package on synaptic. is there any way to restore to default settings?
[22:10] <jmichaelx> ubuntu forums have been trashed by people posting new threads when the answers they seek are already in existing threads
[22:11] <ufmblan> I've looked and found nothing
[22:11] <jmichaelx> ufmblan: you really need to get the details of your card, and look in the forums. there is a %95+ chance your answer is there
[22:11] <jmichaelx> ufmblan: there is a lot more than nothing there
[22:12] <jmichaelx> ufmblan: there are many long threads devoted solely to broadcom wireless issues
[22:16] <phiscibe> ufmblan: maybe the firwares for the driver got left in the dirt for the upgrade
[22:16] <phiscibe> /libs/firware should have something it referecing your driver
[22:16] <jimmy51> yofel: looks to be related to how the SD card is formatted
[22:16] <phiscibe> may be not that excat folder
[22:17] <jimmy51> yofel: i've always used a 1GB card and never had a problem.  it filled up on this vacation so i switched to a 2GB card.
[22:17] <phiscibe> lot of ppl having bugs, im trying to post some of the solutions and gotchas this release,,,http://kubuntu-experince.blogspot.com/
[22:17] <jimmy51> yofel: the camera read it and formatted it, but looking at the folder structure it's different than the 1GB stick... it created two stores with their own DCIM folder in them.
[22:23] <winut_> seems like muon is still buggy, sorry to say
[22:24] <yrushi> hello, is there a theme for wine that makes it look like KDE?
[22:24] <winut_> i guess is should just stick with synaptic or command line
[22:26] <winut> what is the apt command i need to run if i kill muon?
[22:26] <yrushi> sudo apt-get install packagename
[22:26] <winut> muon is stuck at 53%
[22:27] <winut> if i kill it i need to run an apt command, not that
[22:27] <yrushi> oh
[22:27] <winut> i was told what it was some time ago on this forum
[22:27] <yrushi> is it sudo apt-get --reinstall install packagename
[22:28] <winut> because it happened on my dads pc
[22:28] <winut> muon suck iimo
[22:30] <BarkingFish> winut, amen to that.
[22:31] <winut> it looks promising but it gets stuck
[22:31] <winut> also it only shows minimal amounts of package information at a glance
[22:31] <winut> apt is so simple it hard to believe its possible to mess that up!
[22:32] <yofel> winut: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[22:32] <yofel> sudo apt-get install -f
[22:32] <winut> thanks yofel
[22:32] <yofel> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:32] <yrushi> is there a wine theme that integrates with kde??
[22:32] <jmichaelx> kubuntu had adept, then went to kpackagekit, now muon.... i am sure there was at least one other
[22:34] <claydoh> there was ksynaptics, adept, adept2, kpk (naow called apper) and muon
[22:34] <jmichaelx> yofel: if aptitude does not work well with multi-arch, what are people supposed to do in server environments?
[22:34] <jmichaelx> i guess muti-arch just has to be disabled?
[22:35] <yofel> yep
[22:35]  * claydoh loves muon,
[22:35] <jmichaelx> good grief
[22:35] <yofel> I don't think there's much use for mulitarch right now except skype and flash
[22:35] <jmichaelx> ahh
[22:35] <yofel> and we have flash64 in partner
[22:35] <jmichaelx> makes sense
[22:35] <winut> hello
[22:36] <winut> ok, it work. i was trying to paste an error
[22:36] <yofel> jmichaelx: you'll have a /etc/dpkg/dpkg.conf.d/multiarch IIRC, edit that and comment the line in there out
[22:36] <yofel> something like foreign-architecture i386
[22:36] <winut> debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[22:37] <jmichaelx> yofel: ty.... i was planning on upgrading a few servers to oneiric sometime soon
[22:38] <winut> it hasn't finished yet but i thought i should check that error with you. i ran pkill muon and pkill dpkg
[22:38] <winut> then yofels commmand
[22:38] <winut> in sudo also
[22:38] <yrushi> Also, I need to run NuCalc 2.0 under wine.
[22:40] <jmichaelx> does anyone here know how to get the actual hardware devices to show up in phonon, not just 'pulseaudio server'?
[22:41] <altin> how can I stop KATE text editor to make backups whenever I save something ?
[22:42] <avihay> altin: in kate settings
[22:43] <altin> avihay: searched there dont seem to find it ?
[22:43] <altin> can you be more specific please !
[22:43] <yrushi> open/save
[22:43] <avihay> editor component->open/save->advanced->save on backup->remove tick form local files and remote files
[22:44] <avihay> altin: maybe
[22:44] <altin> great
[22:45] <altin> thanks :)
[23:07] <MaximLevitsky> What to do about GTK3 applications in kubuntu?
[23:08] <phiscibe> run em?
[23:09] <MaximLevitsky> They all show ugly fallback theme
[23:09] <MaximLevitsky> I don't mind them use default ubuntu theme or so, but not that ugly theme
[23:11] <phiscibe> how did u get gtk3 stuff in kubuntu?
[23:11] <MaximLevitsky> How, simple I use some gnome apps
[23:11] <MaximLevitsky> like gedit for example
[23:12] <MaximLevitsky> They are all gtk3 now
[23:12] <yofel> there's gtk3-engines-unico
[23:12] <yofel> don't ask me how to use it though if it doesn't work by just installing
[23:12] <MaximLevitsky> I don't mind that
[23:12] <phiscibe> just asking, alot of ppl come in there with a mix of kde and gnome and have no idea what happened
[23:12] <yofel> oxygen gtk3 isn't out yet
[23:13] <MaximLevitsky> All I need is to control the theme
[23:13] <MaximLevitsky> without gnome-settings-daemon
[23:13] <phiscibe> hmm
[23:13] <MaximLevitsky> I did google that bit
[23:13] <MaximLevitsky> nothing working so far
[23:14] <phiscibe> gnome-tweak-tool  maybe
[23:15] <MaximLevitsky> pulls gnome-shell... buts its ok, I take at look at it later
[23:16] <MaximLevitsky> assholes.... Removing gddccontrol...
[23:16] <jmma> phiscibe, I use lxappearance to change gnome theme applications.
[23:16] <MaximLevitsky> I use that tool!
[23:20] <MaximLevitsky> nope lxappearence affects gtk2
[23:20] <MaximLevitsky> I'll look at that later myself I think
[23:20] <jmichaelx> yofel: apparently the biggest problem i am running into is that phon settings are lost upon rebooting
[23:20] <MaximLevitsky> really, gnome just went rogue to all of us. I used so much time and it was quite nice
[23:20] <yofel> that should not happen o.O
[23:20] <jmichaelx> phonon*
[23:21] <MaximLevitsky> I guess I traded my freedom for stable system....
[23:21] <MaximLevitsky> And now its time to take that back
[23:21] <yofel> jmichaelx: any files under .kde/ owned by root?
[23:21]  * yofel is guessing...
[23:21] <jmichaelx> yofel: nope, but that was a good guess
[23:22] <jmichaelx> is there a way to stop the warnings about nepomuk?
[23:22] <yofel> MaximLevitsky: here's a snippet from the oxygen gtk3 readme, maybe something like that needs to be done for the other theme too: http://paste.kde.org/134215
[23:23] <yofel> jmichaelx: if you disabled it - not that I know of
[23:24] <MaximLevitsky> problem is that I don't have .config/gtk-3.0
[23:24] <yofel> MaximLevitsky: create it
[23:24] <jmichaelx> yofel: so if a person disables it, you must get greeted by popups in each new session letting you know that a service you disabled is disabled?
[23:24] <MaximLevitsky> I created it a moment ago
[23:24] <MaximLevitsky> I suspect ubuntu doesn't use it
[23:25] <yofel> jmichaelx: it's not for all services, just that kde really doesn't want you to disable nepomuk, as it's used a lot these days
[23:25] <jmichaelx> :-(
[23:25] <yofel> MaximLevitsky: they probably use gsettings/dconf
[23:25] <jmichaelx> it is also widely disliked
[23:25] <yofel> jmichaelx: I don't have any problems these days keeping it on
[23:25] <yofel> even strigi works mostly fine
[23:26] <jmichaelx> yofel: ok, i will follow you and turn it back on
[23:26] <Torch> jmichaelx: turn off the search indexer and you should not have problems with nepomuk
[23:26] <jmichaelx> i had been very bothered by the amount of system resources it had been using
[23:26] <jmichaelx> Torch: ty
[23:26] <yofel> strigi usually uses a lot of resources
[23:26] <yofel> nepomuk only in combination with akonadi, if you've got akonadi_nepomuk_email_feeder on
[23:26] <yofel> *that* is heavy
[23:27] <MaximLevitsky> yofel: nope, nothing in dconf-editer ether
[23:27] <yofel> :/
[23:28] <oxymoron> Hmm, is it only me or doesnt muon works? It asks for authorization all the time. Then I discovered logout, restart etc in kickoff doesnt work? :S
[23:28] <oxymoron> And xine was removed on upgrade, which made my sound doesnt work AGAIN.
[23:28] <yofel> the authorization part is polkit-kde which is a bit buggy indeed
[23:28] <yofel> restart etc. works fine here
[23:29] <yofel> and we use gstreamer these days
[23:29] <oxymoron> when I press restart nothing happens for me :S
[23:29] <MaximLevitsky> So gddcontrol is removed from ubuntu
[23:29] <MaximLevitsky> assholes
[23:30] <oxymoron> yofel: Yeah I use gstreamer, but I dont know never EVER worked for me, always end up with xine as Alsa and Gstreamer never works and/or someone breaks it.
[23:30] <yofel> try the vlc backend?
[23:30] <oxymoron> yofel: Tried as well, doesnt work either ...
[23:31] <oxymoron> Then I installed xine, but this time it doesnt appear in Phonon settings ... so cannot switch.
[23:31] <jmichaelx> once pulseaudio has been removed, and phonon set to use the corret devices, is there anything else that needs to be done? i am still gettings errors telling me that i have no sound driver
[23:32] <Torch> oxymoron: you need the phonon xine backend, not just xine (in fact i'm not sure if you need xine itself at all for the backend)
[23:32] <oxymoron> Torch: I tried kde.config-phonon-xine, but doesnt seem to be it :P
[23:33] <oxymoron> installed libxine1 and that, doesnt work.
[23:34] <MaximLevitsky> Folks, what do you think about other KDE distros?
[23:34] <oxymoron> As matter of fact, when trying to change settings nothing seems to be saved. For instance tried to update file associations, ifinite update loop, that reaches 100 percent, then starts over xD
[23:34] <MaximLevitsky> Especially that follow kde development closely
[23:35] <MaximLevitsky> openSUSE? its community distro now?
[23:35] <MaximLevitsky> who backs it?
[23:36] <MaximLevitsky> Arch? is this good distro?
[23:37] <Torch> oxymoron: try with a new user?
[23:37] <oxymoron> Torch: What you mean new user?
[23:38] <Torch> oxymoron: create a new user account and see if that fixes it
[23:38] <oxymoron> Torch: Wonder, cruiosity, why would that help?
[23:38] <Torch> oxymoron: either your install is hosed or your account
[23:39] <oxymoron> Torch: Alright, well I give it ago if I manage to create new user ... maybe not work as other bugs :P
[23:40] <phiscibe> oxymoron: military intelligence
[23:48] <jmichaelx> yofel: in case you were interested, a person needs to set the pulseaudio device in pavu
[23:48] <yofel> *sigh*
[23:48] <jmichaelx> just knowing that would have saved me a few freaking hours
[23:48] <jmichaelx> all's well that ends well
[23:48] <jmichaelx> lol
[23:48] <yofel> I would've expected kmix to be intelligent enough to do that these days -.-
[23:49] <oxymoron> Torch: Wasnt able to login ... it required to change pass when login. But the change password dialog locked me out ...
[23:49] <oxymoron> is there any upstream packages to update all bugs "stable" version has?
[23:50] <jmichaelx> yofel: i'm not sure how much power kmix has over pulseaudio
[23:50] <yofel> less than it should
[23:54] <PrivateReese> hmm sorry somebody on who can tell me what to do next if registered at launchpad an requested to be a ubuntu-mirror?
[23:56] <PrivateReese> ubuntu wiki has very less information