[03:28] <doko> jbailey: please could you temporarily revert the linux-kernel-headers change, moving ia64 and hppa headers to the multiarch location. gcc currently doesn't include that directory on non biarch architectures, but I cannot bootstrap it anymore.
[03:57] <jbailey> doko: Sure, np.  How long do you need it for?
[03:58] <doko> jbailey: until it's enabled in all compilers ... so may take a while
[04:04] <jbailey> Hmm.  Is it hard to do?  I would like this in before feature freeze - it's part of what we spec'd in the roadmap as an optional component.
[04:38] <doko> jbailey: hard, or not, we need to get at least the default gcc bootstrapping again.
[04:48] <jbailey> Eh?  I think you misunderstood my  question.  How hard is it to multiarch those architectures to look in those paths?
[04:48] <jbailey> Like, if I upload lkh today, and you upload a new gcc today, can I upload the old lkh tomorrow?
[04:50] <doko> jbailey: ohh, yes, it's easy, except that we're frozen for the CD's, and powerpc should be built first. I have to look at gcc-3.4 and gcc-4.0 as well. need to do something else done than the toolchain as well
[04:50] <jbailey> 'k
[04:51] <doko> or have infinity build the gcc's with an old lkh
[04:51] <infinity> That could be done, but eww.
[04:51] <infinity> Best to just have Jeff revert the change and do it right.
[04:51] <jbailey> Your call.  Either way, I won't be looking at this for a couple hours.
[04:52] <infinity> gcc-4.1 on PPC will be fine by tomorrow.
[04:52] <jbailey> You're welcome to do the revert yourself now if you need.
[04:52] <jbailey> Just change the installed path in the rules file to go to /usr/include for linux/ and the main asm/ directory.
[04:52] <jbailey> The biarch systems should still prefer the biarch asm directories.
[04:52] <jbailey> (linux is already in the common one, I think.. Just the asm/ needs to be moved)
[05:40] <jbailey> fabbione: sparc64 headers bug in lkh is amusing, looks like the problem is a Kbuild one:
 -unifdef-y := fbio.h perfctr.h
 +unifdef-y += fbio.h perfctr.h\
[05:40] <jbailey> =)
[05:45] <fabbione> whops...
[05:45] <fabbione> same as ppc?
[06:24] <jbailey> Hmm?
[06:24] <jbailey> this isn't your mesa failure.
[06:24] <jbailey> Oh wait, you didn't point that one out to me.
[06:24] <jbailey> Keybuk: ^^
[06:24] <jbailey> =)
[06:28] <Keybuk> right
[06:28] <doko> jbailey, fabbione: hmm, but the gcc-4.1 build failure on sparc is the same?
[06:28] <Keybuk> sparc64 was one failure
[06:29] <Keybuk> mesa's failure is still the same symptom (missing asm/errno.h) but a different problem
[06:29] <Keybuk> ergo gcc not looking in /usr/include/ia64-linux-gnu on ia64
[06:29] <Keybuk> (on ia64, at least)
[06:30] <doko> Keybuk: on all non-biarchs, so it should fail on hppa as well
[06:31] <Keybuk> doko: yes, but we don't care about hppa
[06:31] <Keybuk> because hppa isn't on our build system
[06:31] <doko> why not, I thought we had the machines in the data center?
[06:31] <Keybuk> they don't get builds
[06:32] <Keybuk> (I don't know _why_ they don't get builds, they just don't)
[07:00] <fabbione> jbailey: sorry you lose me than...
[07:01] <fabbione> doko: edgy/hppa is waiting glibc ntpl or the world will chease to exist in one ms
[07:46] <jbailey> Keybuk: They'renot building atm because they didn't meet the initial upload requirements.  They have no functioning glibc 2.4 with NPTL.
[07:47] <jbailey> Keybuk: Architectures that can't meet basic toolchain requirements (current kernel, gcc, gdb, glibc) get a fairly serious no-sympathy treatment.
[07:47] <jbailey> I'm working with the parisc folks to get a workign nptl for parisc, though.
[07:47] <jbailey> I'm trying very hard to get that arch up and running and working by Feature Freeze.
[07:49] <Keybuk> jbailey: right, I just mean I don't understand how they're disabled from an LP point of viedw
[07:50] <Keybuk> I knew they were deliberately down
[08:03] <jbailey> Oh, yeah.  No idea. =)
[08:03] <jbailey> I think that they just don't have chroots registered for edgy.
[08:40] <Keybuk> then they'd be waitingchroot, no?
[08:40] <Keybuk> though they do not have a chroot, you're right


[00:34] <Ranger5> Hello! Is it just me or is everyone else unable to log in to the lubuntu forum?
[00:36] <kc2bez> Ranger5: You are not alone. We are currently experiencing some issues with our infrastructure.
[00:37] <Ranger5> Oh good, I thought all my computers had gone wonky!
[00:40] <kc2bez> I have support ticket logged with our admin.
[00:42] <Ranger5> I'm not sure what that means, but it sounds good lol!
[00:43] <kc2bez> tl;dr We are working on a resolution. :D
[00:46] <Ranger5> Great! You guys do great work you know, you're always "on". Many thanks for all the effort you put in!(y) (y) =D
[03:35] <linux> andy
[03:35] <linux> Hallo und Guten Morgen
[03:42] <linux> Hallo und Guten Morgen...
[06:24] <brendantcc> is there a netboot installer for Lubuntu? I've only got a 1gb SD card to install with :/
[17:51] <GNULinuxPay> I'm selling GNU/Linux licenses. $99 for single user, $49 for each computer if purchasing for 25 or more machines. Bitcoin payment only!
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[18:09] <santimir[m]> hello, having ACPI  errors and computer keyboard doesn't respond
[18:10] <santimir[m]> just for turning on but nothing afterwards. it was after changing power management settings so i wonder if this might have something to do
[18:10] <santimir[m]> lubuntu 20.04
[18:11] <santimir[m]> (luckily, have a coding test in 2 days)
[18:13] <santimir[m]> strangely, the power indicator went from 40% to 10%, and the keyboard  freeze
[18:18] <santimir[m]> I hold off button pressed, it came back to life but it's informing a 'firmware bug', and surely won't work fine


[09:44] <dupondje> are there plans to integrate lightning with the gnome-calendar-server ?
[11:16] <knome> chrisccoulson_, hey
[11:17] <knome> chrisccoulson_, had any new ideas for the flavor-specific browser start page?
[14:17] <swiss-chris> I'm using Thunderbird 3.1.13 on ubuntu 10.4 and since a few days I cannot connect to any of my usual mail servers anymore. I keep getting the error message: Login to server XYZ failed. I tried completely uninstalling Thunderbird and reinstalling, same problem persists. Webmail login with same credentials works fine. Any ideas what could be wrong? Do I need to uninstall other mozilla software...
[14:17] <swiss-chris> ...as well? (Like Firefox, add-ons, ???).
[15:11] <chrisccoulson> well, what a fun day :/
[16:25] <micahg> swiss-chris: are you located in the netherlands?
[16:37] <micahg> chrisccoulson: thanks for the tip on the 3.0 kernel build, maybe I should've stayed on natty :(, so I can't test build anything at this point?
[16:38] <chrisccoulson> micahg, just upload it, it's fine :)
[16:38] <micahg> chrisccoulson: ok, thanks
[16:38] <chrisccoulson> but you can work around it by copying Linux2.6.mk to Linux3.0.mk
[16:38] <chrisccoulson> but that is just a temporary workaround to let you build the beta
[16:38] <micahg> this is for Firefox 6
[16:38] <chrisccoulson> the versioned makefiles have gone in the latest NSS
[16:38] <chrisccoulson> right
[16:39] <chrisccoulson> same applies to release :)
[16:39] <chrisccoulson> it's fixed in trunk
[16:39] <chrisccoulson> and maybe aurora too
[16:39] <micahg> so, in 9 then?
[16:39] <micahg> ok
[16:39]  * micahg doesn't like not being able to test build new releases, these point release should be pretty dafe
[16:39] <micahg> *sage
[16:39] <micahg> *safe
[16:41] <chrisccoulson> micahg, did you see i hit a bit of an issue when building the latest beta today? ;)
[16:41] <chrisccoulson> bug 841825
[16:41] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 841825 in gcc-4.6 "gcc SIGSEGV when building Firefox and Thunderbird" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/841825
[16:41] <micahg> chrisccoulson: yeah, that doesn't look good
[16:42] <micahg> chrisccoulson: at least upstream (gcc) found the cause already
[16:42] <micahg> heh, doko with upstream hat :)
[16:43] <micahg> chrisccoulson: BTW, thunderbird rocks in oneiric as long as I keep the messaging menu integration disabled
[16:43] <chrisccoulson> oh, what happens with that?
[16:44] <chrisccoulson> that's actually totally broken on new upgrades/installs
[16:44] <chrisccoulson> bug 839154
[16:44] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 839154 in thunderbird "[Oneiric] Messaging Menu still showing "Set up mail" with Thunderbird fully configured" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/839154
[16:53] <micahg> chrisccoulson: I'm experiencing Bug #840751
[16:53] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 840751 in thunderbird "Thunderbird hangs on launch" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/840751
[16:54] <micahg> chrisccoulson: doko just upload a gcc fix (revert) for your firefox issue
[17:14] <chrisccoulson> micahg, do you have libunity4 installed?
[17:15] <micahg> chrisccoulson: indeed
[17:15] <chrisccoulson> what version?
[17:15] <micahg> 3.8.4-0ubuntu1
[17:15] <micahg> this is in unity-2d
[17:15] <chrisccoulson> ok
[17:15] <micahg> ah, there are 2 libunitys :(
[17:15] <chrisccoulson> your bug is the same as bug 839154
[17:15] <ubot2`> Launchpad bug 839154 in thunderbird "[Oneiric] Messaging Menu still showing "Set up mail" with Thunderbird fully configured" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/839154
[17:20] <micahg> chrisccoulson: should I remove libunity4?
[17:20] <chrisccoulson> micahg, it doesn't matter. it won't work either way
[17:20] <micahg> ah, ok
[17:21] <chrisccoulson> the issue is that natty's libunity4, which is what you have installed, pulls a version of libdbusmenu with an older ABI in to memory, alongside the current oneiric version
[22:23] <FernandoMiguel> evening
[22:47] <chrisccoulson> i've decided that ctypes makes it to easy to break firefox and thunderbird
[22:48] <chrisccoulson> **too easy
[23:23] <micahg> \o/ progress :)
[23:25] <chrisccoulson> micahg ??
[23:25] <micahg> they made it easier to break firefox with an extension :)
[23:25] <chrisccoulson> i'm just uploading thunderbird, which should fix your problem
[23:25] <chrisccoulson> lol
[23:25] <chrisccoulson> yeah ;)
[23:25] <micahg> chrisccoulson: awesome, thanks
[23:44] <chrisccoulson> oh, man, i don't want people to think i'm criticizing firefox - https://twitter.com/#!/firefoxfail/status/110859773121007616
[23:44] <chrisccoulson> but being retweeted by "firefoxfail" probably suggests that ;)
[23:46] <micahg> lol
[23:51]  * micahg points chrisccoulson at the thunderbird build failures...
[23:52] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i've seen those already
[23:52] <chrisccoulson> that sucks, i uploaded the wrong tarball ;)
[23:52]  * micahg wonders how that's possible
[23:53] <chrisccoulson> the first one i created earlier failed
[23:53] <chrisccoulson> i must have deleted the wrong one
[23:59] <chrisccoulson> micahg, we can create tarballs on lillypilly now btw, without having to install any extra stuff (like cdbs or mozilla-devscripts) :)


[01:23] <somsip> I've got to start planning for some server migration from 12.04 to 14.04 next year. I can only see ISOs for the desktop daily build, which will be okay at a push, but is a server/minimal build available somewhere else?
[01:29] <somsip> ah - just found it's still pre-alpha. Maybe I should come back to this later...:)
[12:24] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[12:25] <elfy> hi BluesKaj
[12:25] <BluesKaj> hi elfy
[17:52] <cryptopsy> what's the latest pre-release?
[18:05] <cryptopsy> rmmod ideapad_laptop , fixed that
[18:05] <cryptopsy> whoops
[23:56] <onetinsoldier> hi all. i was wondering if someone might be able to help me get compositing working? do i need to have a /dev/dri/card0 for it to work? i have an error for that(no such file or directory) in my Xorg.log file
[23:56] <onetinsoldier> i am using the fglrx driver


[00:21] <goddard> whats a lighter vnc client maybe terminal based?
[00:21] <goddard> i noticed VNC eats up a lot of resources
[00:21] <sarnold> 'terminal based vnc'??
[00:21] <sarnold> I thought the whole point of vnc is that it's a graphical thing
[00:22] <sarnold> otherwise you'd just use ssh or mosh
[00:22] <goddard> sarnold: well something I can optimize to my liking
[00:22] <goddard> remmina is slow and has very little optimization options
[00:22] <goddard> like how can i toggle between maybe GPU accelerated versus CPU
[00:23] <goddard> opengl or something
[00:23] <goddard> some hardware does a much better job of processing images that change rapidly
[00:23] <CodeMouse92> goddard: Have you already looked at the RDP Quality settings on Remmina?
[00:23] <goddard> its VNC
[00:23] <goddard> yea
[00:23] <goddard> changed it and no effect
[00:24] <goddard> it bogs to my system when running certain CUDA tasks and makes it unusable
[00:24] <goddard> i have had this problem with other apps as well that do CPU acceleration rather than GPU
[00:24] <CodeMouse92> goddard: After you change it there, you need to apply the settings to a particular connection from its own Edit option, and Advanced -> Quality
[00:25] <CodeMouse92> (That confused me for a while at first)
[00:25] <CodeMouse92> And then, ofc, disconnect/reconnect
[00:25] <CodeMouse92> Beyond that, I think things like VNC are *usually* heavy?
[00:27] <CodeMouse92> VNC is always slower than RDP for one thing, because it's pixel-based. It's an image stream
[00:28] <CodeMouse92> (And yes, those settings I mention will not apply to VNC, if you are indeed using VNC instead of RDP)
[00:30] <goddard> no kidding
[00:31] <goddard> looks like RDP is more developed
[00:31] <goddard> isn't RDP a windows technology
[00:33] <CodeMouse92> *shrug* yes, but it works
[00:33] <CodeMouse92> FreeRDP is a free implementation
[00:35] <CodeMouse92> Looks like this is an open source FreeRDP server for Linux: https://github.com/neutrinolabs/xrdp
[00:35] <goddard> yeah thats what i just installed
[00:35] <CodeMouse92> cool, gl
[00:35] <goddard> it connects it looks like and then the window just closes
[00:35] <goddard> probably some config is wrong or gotta restart the service or something?
[00:36] <CodeMouse92> Probably. I know RDP does not like someone being logged in on the system when it's also hosting
[00:36] <CodeMouse92> But you'll have to check the docs, I have not used xrdp before
[00:37] <CodeMouse92> On Windows, RDP will actually log out the current user automatically before allowing a login over RDP
[00:37] <CodeMouse92> And logged in on the local machine will kill the RDP connection
[00:37] <CodeMouse92> *logging
[01:28] <goddard> ahh
[01:28] <goddard> also notice x2go and freenx
[01:29] <goddard> are those terrible
[01:29] <goddard> tried steam streaming
[01:29] <goddard> might work but its hard to get it to allow you to see your desktop
[03:26] <quadrat> is there a way to set a default network on virt-manager? as it seems every time i create a new vm, it sets it the multipass bridge
[03:33] <yLE> Hi
[03:40] <matsaman> hi yle
[03:42] <yLE> quit
[03:42] <yLE> quit
[05:43] <michagogo> CodeMouse92: minor correction: it doesn’t log the user out, it disconnects their session (equivalent to, say, “switch user”)
[05:43] <michagogo> The model is that it’s not remote control, it’s remote login
[05:50] <alkisg> CodeMouse92: this is an artificial limit that only applies to "pro" windows versions. It doesn't apply to Linux server versions or to Linux
[05:50] <alkisg> *to Windows server versions to to Linux
[07:47] <ice9> how to install python pip2 on ubuntu 21.04?
[07:57] <jluc> Hello
[07:57] <Alabalistic> ice9:
[07:57] <Alabalistic> I run kubuntu 21.04 and pip is installed, it's just pip not pip2
[07:58] <jluc> i want to calibrate my screen color rendering
[07:58] <jluc> so i bought a Xrite i1display Studio color probe
[07:58] <jluc> but i cant find a way to use it : ubuntu 20.10 calibration tool hangs
[07:58] <jluc> and DisplayCal.net software is not available for recent ubuntu
[07:58] <jluc> How can i calibrate my screen ?
[07:59] <jluc> Your experience is highly wellcomed
[08:01] <andrews> how do I install haskell on ubuntu
[08:03] <tomreyn> andrews: by installing suitable packages, which you could identify using    apt search --names-only ^haskell
[09:12] <gebbione> hi guys, i am always getting problems with the window manager when i run a search. As soon as i type two characters it does something and locks/blocks the application. It become unresponsive. Ubuntu 18 lts
[09:12] <gebbione> any suggestions, ideally i would like to search with a UX app
[09:28] <Guest93> yo
[09:28] <lotuspsychje> welcome Guest93
[09:29] <Guest93> hi, i would just like to ask how good is ubuntu for modern hardware these days
[09:29] <Guest93> better than other distros?
[09:29] <lotuspsychje> come to #ubuntu-discuss if you like Guest93
[10:32] <gebbione> lotuspsychje, why a separate channel?
[10:33] <lotuspsychje> gebbione: discussions about distro compare/performance doesnt really fit in ubuntu support
[10:37] <weedmic> gebbione: avoids heated arguments
[10:38] <gebbione> what was the hate in my statement?
[10:39] <weedmic> not you, the "reason" why it should be the chat channel.
[10:40] <gebbione> ok i was wondering if i was in the right channel as i received no suggestions to my problem, thanks for clarifying the difference
[12:34] <rapid16> How do I fix a machine that is missing 'sudo' ?
[12:35] <jluc> i found displaycal flatpak and could install and run it
[12:36] <jluc> there still is an issue since it cannot install the profile
[12:36] <jluc> issue with LUT and argyll and rights - have to investigate
[12:40] <donofrio> rapid16, missing sudo?
[12:41] <rapid16> Yeah..it said sudo is not found
[12:41] <rapid16> I didn't know that would be possible
[12:42] <donofrio> humm, perhaps login as root and apt-get install sudo -y
[12:42] <rapid16> Hmm. That would be difficult...Docker container
[12:42] <donofrio> it is a package apt-cache search show it exists
[12:42] <donofrio> where did you get container?
[12:43] <jluc> Dispwin error says "We don't have access to the VideoLUT for clearing"
[12:43] <rapid16> Digital Ocean's NGINX web server
[12:43] <rapid16> From docker hub I think
[12:44] <donofrio> talk with DO i would think?
[12:44] <jluc> forum sayz """there is no working color management in Wayland. If you want color management, use X11."
[12:44] <jluc> I had to switch to wayland due to an issue with geany freezes on x11...
[12:44] <rapid16> Okay. I'll just get an nginx container, plain
[12:44] <donofrio> yah
[12:44] <jluc> no color management in wayland o0 ???
[12:44] <donofrio> good luck
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:09]  * pene slaps danlinux around a bit with a large coregonus autumnalis
[13:21] <pene> hid3:
[13:25] <Guest45> Hey there. I'm back. I've been trying to recover a corrupted hard drive. My last steps were "sudo losetup -f -P --show path/to/file.img" and "fsck -N -V /dev/loopX"
[13:26] <Guest45> So after fsck finished doing its thing. What's next? How do I explore my data? Do I have to mount file.img or /dev/loopX?
[13:26] <Guest45> I don't have nearly as much GiB free on my computer to mount the entire file.img. Is there a work around or do I even need all of that space in the first place?
[13:29] <Guest45> df -h /mnt returns 23G avail, however, file.img is a sparse file 184G (466G total)
[13:35] <leftyfb> Guest45: you don't need additional space to mount an .img file. Regardless, you need to mount the /dev/loopx's, not the img
[13:36] <do5rsw> leftyfb: can't yoo du mount -o loop or something similar too?
[13:37] <leftyfb> do5rsw: I don't see how that's relevant here
[13:37] <Guest45> leftyfb How come I don't need additional space?  Taking into account that this file.img was generated by gddrescue from a corrupted hard drive and then ran fsck to try and fix it
[13:40] <yates> i'm running remmina to connect to my lubuntu 18.04 LTS system remotely. the remote's .xsession file uses lxsession.
[13:40] <yates> but i don't get my shortcut keys - any way to get those to work in the remmina session?
[13:40] <Guest45> do5rsw but my image is already 'mounted' as a /dev/loopX. Wouldn't that re mount it?
[13:40] <leftyfb> do5rsw: the .img is not a filesystem, it's an image of a drive with partitions. The whole purpose of losetup is to discover and create mount points to the individual partitions (/dev/loopx)
[13:40] <Guest45> IIUC, I need to
[13:41] <Guest45> Oops. I didn't mean to send that. IIUC, I need to run "sudo losetup -f -P --show path/to/file.img" first and then mount /dev/loopX
[13:41] <do5rsw> hm afaik /dev/loopx is no mountpoint but a device node
[13:42] <do5rsw> so you maybe just need to mount that device(s)
[13:42] <leftyfb> Guest45: yes, you're on the right track. Ignore loop mounting, it's not relevant in this case
[13:42] <leftyfb> do5rsw: I don't see why you're trying to suggest using tools and methods to solve a problem that isn't being presented here
[13:42] <do5rsw> sp I'd try to mount /dev/loopX /mountpoint
[13:42] <leftyfb> yes, we all know that
[13:44] <Guest45> Except me, maybe
[13:44] <leftyfb> Guest45: you already understood you needed to mount one of the /dev/loopx's
[13:44] <Guest45> So, should my mount command look like this 'mount /dev/loopX -o loop /mnt/recovery'?
[13:44] <leftyfb> Guest45: no, do not use loop
[13:45] <do5rsw> just 'mount /dev/loopX /mnt/recorvery'
[13:45] <leftyfb> correct
[13:46] <leftyfb> Guest45: loop is only used when there is no loop devices found/created for a file you're trying to mount. In this case, we used losetup to do that for us
[13:47] <do5rsw> correct
[13:47] <leftyfb> do5rsw's original suggestion was to use loop on the .img file, but that won't work when the file is multiple partitions needing multiple loop devices
[13:47] <do5rsw> indeed
[13:48] <do5rsw> this works fine with iso images and other "one-partition" images
[13:48] <do5rsw> but not in your case
[13:50] <Guest45> I see. I'm still trying to understand what loop means in this case but to be completely honest, I'm also trying to recover my data, so I have a little list of concepts I should read on about if I don't understand it right away
[13:50] <Guest45> do5rsw what would be an example of such image? Clearly not this case since it is a ext4 partitioned image, right?
[13:52] <TJ-> Guest45: loop is short for loopdev. "sudo losetup --find --show --partscan path/to/file" will report the loopdev created for this. Any partitions will also be mapped so you can then do things like "mount /dev/loopXp2 /mnt/fs"
[13:52] <leftyfb> Guest45: an iso or a .img file created from a single partition or directory, not an entire drive with multiple partitions. -o loop does the job that losetup did by automatically creating a /dev/loopx device for you if you've only got 1 filesystem to mount
[13:53] <TJ-> Guest45: you can determine the partition(s) with "grep 'loopX$' /proc/partitions" (where X is the loopdev number and $ is a literal $ (meaning end-of-line in regular expression)
[13:57] <do5rsw> however losetup seems not to throw any error if it cannot detect partitions. At least it did so on my linux laptop when I tried losetup on a raspian image
[13:57] <do5rsw> it thus did create and show me a loop device for it but it is not mountable
[13:57] <do5rsw> maye that struck you too?
[13:59] <do5rsw> Guest45 hm probably floppy images for examle?
[14:32] <TJ-> do5rsw: partitions are optional extras :)
[14:45] <TJ-> do5rsw: just checked; the 'lite' .img has 2 partitions shown. I did notice my earlier command was wrong though, should have been "grep loopX /proc/partitions"
[15:44] <Malteraate> Hi there, I'm fiddling a bit with the hardware. I have a Asus laptop (AMD CPU) FX505DV, and I'd like to be able to change the fan speed manually (even under no load, there's a spinning). There are some tutorials available but none that I saw apply to me, either using asus-fan-control or using lm-sensors and fancontrol. I therefore tried to play
[15:44] <Malteraate> myself and discovered the "/sys/devices/platform/asus-nb-wmi/hwmon/hwmon5/pwm1_enable". However, I can't change the content of this file, even in sudo. Someone knows about this and could walk me through? Thank you.
[15:48] <oerheks> i would not fiddle with fanspeed, that should be in control of your BIOS, but if you do, be carefull; some guide https://itectec.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-how-to-control-fan-speed/
[15:55] <Malteraate> oerheks: Thanks. I agree with you, though the BIOS doesn't leave me any choice in the fan configuration. I tried the link you suggest and can't have pwmconfig to work. I get the following output: ' /usr/sbin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed'. I saw some people suggesting to enforce lax in GRUB to alleviate this issue, I
[15:55] <Malteraate> tried without any success for me. That is why I started to explore by myself the "/sys/devices/platform/asus-nb-wmi/hwmon/hwmon5/pwm1_enable" to see if I could set fan speeds by hand (just to see). Infortunately, while I can read actual fan speed in the file "/sys/devices/platform/asus-nb-wmi/hwmon/hwmon5/fan1_input" (I can see that currently the
[15:55] <Malteraate> fan is at 2400 RPM), I can't set it with "echo 3000 > sudo tee /sys/devices/platform/asus-nb-wmi/hwmon/hwmon5/fan1_input" (stays still at 2400). root root is the owner of the file but permissions are r-- r-- ---.
[15:58] <oerheks> i feel free not to help damaging your hardware :-D
[15:58] <oerheks> good luck!
[15:59] <Malteraate> Ok :). Thanks anyway
[15:59] <tomreyn> Malteraate: make sure you have the latest bios, this can help improve your management options, or improve the default fan speeds. install lm-sensors and run sensors-detect to ensure all sensors are properly detected.
[16:02] <Malteraate> tomreyn: thank you for your reply. Indeed, I updated my BIOS to the latest version. lm-sensors runs well and the fan is correctly detected (https://pastebin.com/ntJkdn90)
[16:02] <tomreyn> disabling nvidia graphics may improve thermals
[16:04] <Malteraate> Well, turns out the fan from the graphic card doesn't run at all (from nvidia-smi, I can see that the fan is disabled. also myself, I can hear when it starts, it's on the other side of the laptop). I can therefore safely say that I want to modify the behavior of the CPU fan only.
[16:05] <tomreyn> also removing extra hdd's, if any, or replacing a hdd / full size ssd by an m2 may help with thermals
[16:08] <tomreyn> those series had overheating problems in the past https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=ASUS-TUF-Ryzen-Thermal-Fix
[16:09] <tomreyn> (which may be why the fans are now always on/always audible)
[16:16] <Malteraate> Thanks for the tips. I have the Karnel 5.8 and I do have the thermal_policy_throttle able, such as the fanboost_mode as well. However even with those set to silent I have still have the CPU Fan 100% of the time. On windows, this doesn't happen and when I do light work, fans are all off. Which makes me think that there's something tweakable here.
[16:26] <tomreyn> The ASUS thermal policy can be configured now via /sys/devices/platform/asus-nb-wmi/throttle_thermal_policy
[17:01] <lorimark> hi guys, don't mean to bother here, but i've got a new server I'm trying to plug in behind a sonic-wall dmz, and i can't seem to get traffic through to it to ssh in to the box... wondering if anyone can offer any advice - usually the sonic walls just set up fairly easily, not sure why i'm blocked here
[17:02] <Preppie> If you're on a dmz, you won't be able to access anything on the network
[17:02] <leftyfb> lorimark: can you ssh to the server from another machine on the network?
[17:04] <lorimark> hi leftyfb - the server is on an X3 port, my LAN is on X0, the WAN is on X1.  I ran through the dmz stuff, and I can ssh from LAN to DMZ but not WAN to DMZ
[17:05] <lorimark> fwiw i hate sonic walls...
[17:05] <leftyfb> lorimark: ok, so your issue is with your network setup(sonic-wall). You'll need to seek support in that direction. Maybe try #networking
[17:05] <lorimark> networking!!! cool, thank you!
[17:07] <sixwheeledbeast> traffic from where? dmz is suppose to be separated from LAN so something seems odd. as above probably off topic.
[17:08] <Preppie> my understanding is he was trying to access the local network externally through the DMZ
[17:09] <Preppie> ssh won't work that way which is the default behavior. So, sonicwall will have to be setup to forward ssh to traffic. But yeah, this is off-topic...
[17:10] <sixwheeledbeast> the whole point of a dmz is it's separated from the lan.
[17:11] <oerheks> sudo ufw allow ssh
[17:11] <Preppie> ufw doesn't work like that for dmz....
[17:12] <cbreak> I don't really see the point in the complexity of setting up a DMZ
[17:13] <Preppie> sixwheeledbeast, yes. But it's usually put in place as a method to control traffic between internet and local network. It's very useful in large organizations where if the DMZ is attacked, it won't affect the local network
[17:13] <cbreak> setting up simple port forwarding / allowed firewall ports seems much easier
[17:13] <Preppie> It's certainly annoying to setup, but it's very effective in preventing most common cyberattacks
[17:13] <leftyfb> feel free to continue the discussion in #networking or #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:13] <cbreak> Preppie: I doubt it
[17:13] <Preppie> simple port forwarding is ok for smaller networks
[17:14] <cbreak> most cyber attacks use e-mail, which is allowed, or outgoing https requests, which is also allowed :D
[17:14] <Preppie> cbreak, you won't believe how effective a well configured dmz is....
[17:14] <leftyfb> cbreak: Preppie: feel free to continue the discussion in #networking or #ubuntu-offtopic. Lets stay on topic here with ubuntu support
[17:14] <Preppie> leftyfb, oh yeah, sorry mate
[17:41] <donofrio> I wonder why userland I just installed when I installed ubuntu, it was missing ping.  but debian has ping... ;(
[17:41] <donofrio> on my note5
[17:43] <oerheks> donofrio, your ubuntu install on a note 5 is not a real ubuntu install, is it?
[17:43] <charco> Hi! Is there a way to setup kernel cmdline parameters in the ubuntu liveusb iso?
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> charco: you want to edit the ubuntu live?
[17:45] <charco> Yes -- I want to set the BadRam parameters so the installer doesn't use the faulty ram ranges.
[17:45] <leftyfb> donofrio: all official versions of ubuntu have iputils-ping installed by default
[17:45] <oerheks> at the point; try ubuntu without installing' you can hit F6 options
[17:45] <leftyfb> charco: why bother installing ubuntu on a machine with bad memory?
[17:46] <charco> Because it's the only machine that I have
[17:46] <charco> And there are few faulty address ranges (all located in the same physical page)
[17:46] <oerheks> oh, the F6 function does not give free parameters
[17:46] <oerheks> remove bad ram strip
[17:46] <charco> oerheks: :(
[17:47] <charco> it is soldered.
[17:47] <charco> Installing ubuntu works, I just want to make sure that the installation did not get corrupted because of the faulty ram. So I was wondering if there was any way to pass extra kernel cmdline parameters to the installer.
[17:48] <oerheks> not during install, after install you can edit the grubline
[17:50] <oerheks> add a kernel parameter memtest=4 # and it will select automaticly your bad adresses https://askubuntu.com/questions/908925/how-do-i-tell-ubuntu-not-to-use-certain-memory-addresses
[17:51] <oerheks> be aware; bad ram may grow...
[17:51] <charco> I expect to get a new computer before it grows too much :P
[17:51] <charco> oerheks: yeah, but my concern was during ubuntu installation, to make sure it is installed correctly
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> charco: there's also cubic to edit your own ubuntu iso's but will be this all worth the work?
[17:54] <charco> na
[17:55] <charco> If it's not easy to do I will just hope for the best 🤞
[18:06] <PeGaSuS> hello folks. I have probably one of the stupidest questions: I already have a laptop with Windows + Xubuntu on dual boot. so the main question is: can I install a third OS but with the bootloader independent of the actual bootloader in an external HDD? so, if in another computer I plug in the external HDD and I chose to boot from it I already have the bootloader and such. I don't know if I make myself clear
[18:09] <PeGaSuS> basically what I want/need is an entire OS in the external drive, with its own bootloader and such, but without affecting the actual bootloader
[18:10] <leftyfb> PeGaSuS: yes, that is possible
[18:11] <PeGaSuS> any tutorial for that? I don't seem to find anything comprehensive in the matter.
[18:12] <leftyfb> PeGaSuS: the easiest method, physically disconnect all the other drives, plug in the usb drive, boot the installer either on another usb flash drive or cd and install
[18:13] <TJ-> PeGaSuS: during installation ensure you select the correct boot device - and remember by default it'll be either UEFI /or/ BIOS boot mode, but not both, so to work on other systems will need that other system to boot in the same mode
[18:14] <TJ-> PeGaSuS: you can manually create a dual boot mode install with some preparation before the installer
[18:15] <PeGaSuS> aye. but in this case I can't unplug the internal HDD. it's an eMMC card (I believe it's that the name)
[18:15] <PeGaSuS> and I don't want to touch the actual install
[18:17] <TJ-> PeGaSuS: as I said you don't need to - just ensure you select the /correct/ device where the bootloader device choice is
[18:18] <TJ-> PeGaSuS: e.g. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=014-Install-Installation-Type-05.png
[18:19] <PeGaSuS> right. the actual bootloader is in /dev/sda so I should choose /dev/sdb (to create a portable OS) instead?
[18:20] <TJ-> PeGaSuS: if /dev/sdb is the device you're installing the OS to, then yes
[18:21] <PeGaSuS> I see. I'll give it a try in a bit. I'm just downloading the OS
[19:21] <lotuspsychje> !rootirc | rez
[20:10] <leftyfb> Anyone know how to disable ipv6 within systemd-resolved? Not the whole system, that is already done and doesn't prevent systemd-resolved from attempting ipv6 lookups. Also not systemd-resolve as that's not the local caching daemon I'm referring to.
[20:12] <leftyfb> I also tried LinkLocalAddressing=ipv4 in networkd.conf thinking that might help but it doesn't
[20:13] <TJ-> leftyfb: how do you mean, disable IPv6? disable returning AAAA resource records? or disable contacting an IPv6-connected DNS server?
[20:13] <leftyfb> TJ-: attempting the AAAA lookups at all
[20:14] <TJ-> LinkLocalAddressing= is for IPv6 fe80:: or IPv4 169.254
[20:14] <leftyfb> "Cache miss for example.com IN AAAA"
[20:15] <leftyfb> TJ-: that's only for networkd, and doesn't seem to affect systemd-resolved. I already tried it
[20:17] <leftyfb> TJ-: in 20 minutes there were over 2000 AAAA queries and about 20 A
[20:17] <leftyfb> trying to eliminate that traffic
[20:17] <leftyfb> as small as it is
[20:19] <TJ-> leftyfb: in .network files, LLMNR= is read by systemd-resolved. But that won't help what you want
[20:22] <leftyfb> TJ-: yeah, I'm thinking this isn't something anyone accounted for
[20:23] <TJ-> leftyfb: 'Cache miss...' is a 'debug' level option - are you correlating those messages to network traffic?
[20:24] <leftyfb> TJ-: yes
[20:27] <leftyfb> well, I don't have those queries shown on the server side, let me check .. maybe there isn't actually any traffic from this
[20:33] <leftyfb> yup, there's an AAAA and even an MX query
[20:35] <TJ-> leftyfb: best solutions is to drop those packets in the firewall.
[20:36] <leftyfb> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/Mps72rndmr/
[20:36] <leftyfb> TJ-: not sure how you'd go about dropping AAAA and MX queries and not A
[20:36] <leftyfb> either way, there's no firewall to speak of, this is a local network
[20:36] <TJ-> I meant on the local system
[20:37] <TJ-> do the queries originate from an IPv6 or IPv6 local address?
[20:37] <TJ-> oops, or IPv4 :)
[20:37] <leftyfb> ipv4
[20:38] <leftyfb> ipv6 is disabled at the system level (sysctl and grub) so there's no ipv6 address on the interface in question
[20:38] <sarnold> leftyfb: if they're all negative responses, you could configure resolved to cache those, too; see resolved.conf(5)
[20:39] <leftyfb> sarnold: nope, we purposely set no-negative because we need that for other operations
[20:40] <sarnold> ah
[20:41] <sarnold> leftyfb: I couldn't find any easy examples on the dnsdist.org webpage but you could probably configure it to return servfail or nxdomain or something on AAAA records
[20:42] <leftyfb> oh, that's an idea. Let me see if I can dig up how to do that
[20:48] <TJ-> leftyfb: iptables module: https://github.com/oskar456/xt_dns
[20:48] <sarnold> TJ-: well that's kinda neat looking
[20:49] <TJ-> I thought it was in the archive
[20:49] <TJ-> realised it works since it's DKMS - had forgotten it was added
[20:51] <hoppity> Do you guys think there is a way to pass through the outside sounds through my headset internal mic to be able to hear when someon calls my name?
[20:52] <pasiz> hoppity: so you want to use mic as speaker+
[20:52] <TJ-> hoppity: you meant through the headset speakers?
[20:58] <leftyfb> hoppity: I think your question is well beyond the scope of this channel. You're looking at some custom voice recognition and announcement software. Sounds pretty possible though
[20:59] <hoppity> voice recognition?
[20:59] <hoppity> No, I just want to hear what my microphone hears
[21:00] <hoppity> I definitely did not explaine myself correctly :p sorry
[21:01] <TJ-> hoppity: you can configure a monitor on the microphone and mix it to the default output (Pulseaudio)
[21:01] <hoppity> TJ-: thank you
[21:01] <pasiz> hoppity: AI like wake word?
[21:02] <pasiz> like hey google, but wake word is your name
[21:02] <hoppity> pasiz: lol what? no AI, no intelligence
[21:02] <hoppity> just literally hear my mic in my headset so I can hear whats happening around me
[21:02] <pasiz> use open back headphones
[21:02] <hoppity> pasiz: too late for that plus having music playing wont let you hear really
[21:03] <TJ-> hoppity: see https://www.scivision.dev/loopback-audio-linux-pulseaudio/
[21:03] <hoppity> TJ-: thank you, you are truly the man with the answers
[21:04] <pasiz> so you bought insulating headphones and turn monitor on to make those like openback?
[21:04] <TJ-> hoppity: ahhh, that last link is the opposite of what you want
[21:04] <hoppity> pasiz: yes because I like to be difficult like that
[21:05] <hoppity> jk, I bought them for home, now I am using them at work and need to hear around me
[21:05] <hoppity> TJ-: lol it looked legit
[21:06] <TJ-> hoppity: this refers to 'line in' but where you read that, read instance 'microphone in' https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/263274/pipe-mix-line-in-to-output-in-pulseaudio
[21:06] <hoppity> TJ-: thank you, seems like the loopback module is what I need
[21:07] <shibboleth> TJ-, ping
[21:08] <TJ-> hoppity: definitive info: https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/Modules/#module-loopback
[21:08] <TJ-> shibboleth: pong
[21:08] <hoppity> TJ-: damn, my deepest thanks TJ, you went above and beyond the line of duty
[21:09] <shibboleth> TJ-, i overwrote bobs spi/bios flash with a dump from alice (mostly, made sure the serials/MAC/etc were saved) and now the bob grub issue is kinda solved
[21:10] <shibboleth> as in, i no longer have to unload the tpm module
[21:10] <pasiz> would be nice gag on your work, pop a balloon near your head, when your mic is picking far sounds and playing out quite loud to get something reasonable output ;) Some limiter would be also be reasonable to implement.
[21:10] <shibboleth> so, my guess was likely correct: something about the efivars
[21:10] <TJ-> shibboleth: ouch!
[21:13] <shibboleth> now, how some odd efivar makes grub > 2.02-2ubuntu8.21 bork unless you unload the tpm module for me and several other, i really don't know
[21:13] <shibboleth> but, having two identical systems and the issue only affecting one was handy in my case
[21:14] <TJ-> shibboleth: that's one reason I always buy at least 2 of everything
[21:14] <TJ-> swap-out on failure, comparision, A/N testing
[21:15] <TJ-> errr, A/B testing too
[21:15] <shibboleth> you weren't hit with any divine revelation while debugging/bisecting on your end?
[21:16] <TJ-> no, not this time :)
[21:18] <shibboleth> well, i guess i'm glad that "solves" the issue for me, too bad about the some hundred other people (out of umpteen millions)
[21:20] <shibboleth> but seriously, the issue seems to have been triggered by the diff between 8.21 and 8.23
[22:00] <PeGaSuS> feedback: the installation in the external drive was successful and I just need to plug it in on another computer, boot from the external drive and I have Ubuntu running on another laptop :)
[22:01] <PeGaSuS> thanks for the pointers about where to install the bootloader and such
[22:32] <bluejaypop> I'm having a problem with certificates, just like: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K6W5pgTF3W/ how can it be solved?
[22:36] <sarnold> bluejaypop: try running this, maybe it'll give a similar error: openssl s_client -verify 2 -CApath /etc/ssl/certs/ -connect google.com.mx:443
[22:37] <sarnold> bluejaypop: here's what it looks like on my focal system https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rFhkR8qRDr/
[22:37] <bluejaypop> No client certificate CA names sent
[22:37] <bluejaypop> SSL handshake has read 4336 bytes and written 395 bytes
[22:37] <bluejaypop> Verification: OK
[22:38] <bluejaypop> yes it works
[22:44] <sarnold> bluejaypop: hmm okay. I kinda expected a failure :)
[22:45] <bluejaypop> sarnold, worked now with https://serverfault.com/a/979014/578479 on /etc/wgetrc
[22:47] <sarnold> bluejaypop: so strange :/ I wonder why you had to edit it
[22:47] <Guest75> Hi, using Lubuntu 20.04 LTS, when I use a VPN, my wifi disconnects randomly. But without a VPN my wifi is fine, I wonder why the VPN affects my wifi?
[22:47] <pasiz> it keeps constant traffic
[22:47] <pasiz> without it you won't notice ber
[22:48] <Guest75> wym?
[22:48] <bluejaypop> sarnold, I did openssl version -d  and I got: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cvgKK8yWpv/
[22:48] <bluejaypop> that could be related
[22:50] <sarnold> bluejaypop: waaaaaat
[22:50] <bluejaypop> i think a repository had a different openssl package and upgrading it mesed up the OPENSSLDIR
[22:51] <sarnold> that 'el6' sure makes it feel like a rhel6 thing
[22:52] <sarnold> bluejaypop: that would certainly do it.. your dpkg -l openssl output should match one of these version numbers https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openssl
[22:53] <bluejaypop> yea i have this one: ii  openssl        1.1.1f-1ubuntu2.4 amd64        Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - cryptographic utility
[22:55] <bluejaypop> i reinstalled but i get the same
[22:56] <sarnold> bluejaypop: okay, how about debsums -as openssl libssl1.1   ?
[22:58] <bluejaypop> sarnold,  let me try
[22:58] <bluejaypop> debsums: changed file /etc/ssl/openssl.cnf (from openssl package)
[22:59] <bluejaypop> but i did that, i was checking the config
[22:59] <bluejaypop> but, nothing was changed
[22:59] <sarnold> hmm, I wonder where that 'el6' path came from then :/
[23:00] <bluejaypop> what is shown on your installation ?
[23:00] <sarnold> $ openssl version -d
[23:00] <sarnold> OPENSSLDIR: "/usr/lib/ssl"
[23:00] <bluejaypop> damn
[23:03] <bluejaypop> you know, i have another pc and i ran the same, and I got almost the same output on OPENSSLDIR but is working okay that pc, so i dont understand now
[23:07] <bluejaypop> i had to do a symbolic link to that path, later i will find out what the problem is
[23:07] <bluejaypop> thanks sarnold for your help.
[23:07] <sarnold> bluejaypop: crazy. good luck :)
[23:07] <bluejaypop> hehe, thx
[23:56] <captcavejerk> t


[13:37] <tsimonq2> o/
[13:38] <kc2bez> o/ tsimonq2
[13:38] <apt-ghetto> \o
[13:39] <tsimonq2> What's new?
[13:40] <kc2bez> apt-ghetto: had been busy packaging the new LXQt and I have been busy uploading.
[13:41] <apt-ghetto> I hope to finish the last two packages today
[13:42] <RikMills> new glibc is making most C++ packages get stuck in proposed
[13:42] <RikMills> which is fun
[13:43] <kc2bez> Yeah, everything will migrate all at the same time which isn't a bad thing necessarily.
[13:44] <RikMills> it is good, as the binaries would be fubar if they migrated
[13:44] <kc2bez> I need to update cala settings and artwork too
[13:49] <kc2bez> Focal point release is next week.
[13:49] <kc2bez> That might be the highlights on news.
[13:50] <tsimonq2> Nice. It feels like a lifetime ago, but I remember all of this like it was yesterday...
 welcome back to the living tsimonq2
 follow up with Unit193 RE: pastebinit please
 "[telegram] <teward001> follow up..." <- Already asked him in -devel, I'm hoping to get a ping back soon
 https://meet.google.com/wib-evjn-stg
[21:13] <kc2bez> @teward or @tsimonq2 would one of you be so kind as to upload qtermwidget? I apparently don't have upload rights.
[21:14] <teward> i can upload it to the repos.  where's the src?
[21:14] <teward> so i can download it ;)
[21:14] <kc2bez> in phab, standby
[21:15] <kc2bez> You should be able to clone this https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/qtermwidget/
[21:19] <kc2bez> After that builds, I will need the same help with qterminal. Let me get that ready first though.
[21:23] <teward> so glad I remember how uscan works :P
[21:24] <teward> kc2bez: running local builds first because I'm one of those people
[21:24] <kc2bez> I do the same
[21:24] <kc2bez> FWIW it built for me and apt-ghetto and he put it in his ppa
[21:25] <teward> i think i forgot to enable proposed though 'cause it builds with what's in proposed :|
[21:25] <teward> i'll fix that next :P
[21:26] <kc2bez> qterminal is ready whenever qtermwidget builds  https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/qterminal/
[21:26] <kc2bez> I appreciate the help.
[21:35] <teward> build successful with proposed.
[21:36] <kc2bez> cool
[21:39] <teward> and uploaded qtermwidget
[21:39] <kc2bez> nice
[21:41] <teward> i assume qterminal depends on newer qtermwidget so I have to wait :P
[21:41] <kc2bez> Yes and yes. :)
[21:42] <tsimonq2> Throw it at -proposed, it'll stick eventually. :P
[21:42] <kc2bez> XD
 lol
 *sends Simon into the abyss*
 Simon, you know I test build things
 so :P
 😆 (re @teward001: *sends Simon into the abyss*)
[21:43] <tsimonq2> Why would you test build things when we have a perfectly good archive to do that for us? XD
 because long ago when I did that, I got yelled at by infinity, rest in peace.
[21:44] <tsimonq2> Indeed. He nudged me too. :)
[21:44] <tsimonq2> Also
[21:44] <tsimonq2> CI machine broke
 i also got smacked by Robie at the time too
 yes i know CI is broke
 it's not new
 on my list to fix but
[21:45] <kc2bez> CI go brr
 ERRLBUSY
[21:47] <teward> I pushed qterminal as well but it's probably going to end up depwaited
[21:48] <tsimonq2> I'll fix it, I just need a can of WD-40 and some blinker fluid. I volunteer apt-ghetto to go get the latter of the two. ;)
 actually simon
 fix lugito
 that's where the break is
[21:48] <kc2bez> Ok, sounds good teward. We can circle back on perms later.
 > Sending request to url: http://lugito.lubuntu.me:5000/jenkinsnag < connection reset
 kc2bez: there's a separate uploaders group maintained by DMB, if you weren't in it then we'll have to add you and you'll have to request packageset access
 DMB did that initially because we wanted a control for that stuff
[21:49] <kc2bez> Right, I get it. I thought we had it fixed up but...
[21:50] <kc2bez> It clearly isn't in the lubuntu packageset
 email devel-permissions on what you want to make sure is in the packageset :)
 we're happy to add Lubuntu things to the packageset.
[21:51] <kc2bez> It might be tomorrow but will do.
[21:51] <tsimonq2> lubot: Looks like an infrastructure issue ;)
[23:42] <guiverc> sorry kc2bez, I expected you'd have rights to do anything... hopefully you do now..
[23:42] <kc2bez> No worries. I will give it a try.
[23:45] <kc2bez> guiverc: how do you feel about the dark waves for the main wallpaper?
[23:47] <kc2bez> I'm thinking the dark circle of friends for SDDM
[23:47]  * guiverc looking for them
[23:50] <guiverc> It'd work :)  as would pointing folks to the others (esp. the one with indri - I like it cause of it had the indri animal... I suspect that will be packaged in mate & possibly others anyway)
[23:50] <kc2bez> I have the same feeling.
[23:51] <kc2bez> I like the light waves with my dark panel on the bottom.
[23:51]  * guiverc hides face b/c of my poor language - yuk!
[23:51] <kc2bez> I got what you were saying.
[23:52] <kc2bez> I will make it so.
[23:52] <guiverc> i think dark waves would look better if terminal & neofetch was on it (reviewers, screenshots) rather than light background - but users will change I bet whatever is default
[23:53] <kc2bez> I think it will look decent for the screenshots and have a little branding.
[23:54] <guiverc> :)   yep, your blog post is often used by reviewers !


 Hello how can we help you?
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[05:28] <diogenes_> !es
 @HMollerCl [necesitarás construir tu propio ejército y tener una estrategia para ganar. ¡Pre …], Wat? 😆
[08:14] <PlaySolo> Buenas
 @tsimonq2 [Wat? 😆], A virus in the hotel handy
[12:57] <Xababa> Bonjour
[13:01] <Xababa> Hello !
[13:02] <Xababa> Hello xeon !
[13:03] <xeon> Xababa: hihi
[13:04] <Xababa> xeon: haha !
[13:04] <xeon> whatzup?
[13:04] <Xababa> working and u ?
[13:05] <xeon> what r u working on?
[13:05] <xeon> looking for work
[13:06] <Xababa> i'm a student actually
[13:06] <Xababa> i'm working on a computer program
[13:06] <xeon> which college?
[13:07] <Xababa> I'm in a french Uni
 could someone help me with this?
 No calamares log
 And sudo calamares -d not work
 It is a problem of a user of the  Spanish group
 it also happens on 18.04
 18.04 would still be the ubiquity installer.
 @N0um3n0 it might be a good idea to have them check the USB drive and the iso hash.
 @kc2bez [18.04 would still be the ubiquity installer.], precisely that is what misses me, that it could be a fault in the installer, but they are two different
 Since they are different it makes me wonder about the hardware (USB stick or port) or the disk write process.
 I think you're right with the problem, thanks.
[15:20] <dedekating> hi
[16:09] <Lutinmalin> hi! any helper around?
[16:09] <Lutinmalin> for a "lxqt-powermanagement: no battery!" issue
[16:15] <Lutinmalin> is there a mouse shortcut for closing apps? I keep closing apps and tabs without meaning to


[09:24] <falktx> hi guys
[09:24] <falktx> none of the abogani's kernels installs now
[09:24] <falktx> not the lowlatency or realtime
[10:00] <jussi> falktx: you need to talk to him about that...
[10:00] <falktx> i did
[10:01] <falktx> first abogani removed the lowlatency kernel
[10:01] <falktx> i ask him why, he said he needed to do cleanup on the ppa
[10:01] <falktx> the lowlatency is there now, but the headers file are installable
[10:01] <falktx> same thing for realtime


[23:43] <Omnifrog> <.<   >.>
[23:45] <wrst> hello
[23:46] <Omnifrog> hi
[23:46] <wrst> how are you Omnifrog
[23:47] <Omnifrog> I'm doing great! How's you?
[23:48] <wrst> doing good you new here Omnifrog ?
[23:48] <Omnifrog> I am!
[23:48] <wrst> cool welcome
[23:49] <Omnifrog> I noticed the channel in the server list and was all like.. Oh, that exists
[23:49] <Omnifrog> thanks
[23:49] <wrst> ha ha you an Ubuntu user?
[23:50] <Omnifrog> is this an active group?
[23:50] <Omnifrog> yeah, I'm on Ubuntu right now
[23:50] <Omnifrog> Kubuntu
[23:51] <wrst> cool less active than it has been
[23:51] <Omnifrog> and one xubuntu
[23:51] <wrst> Unit193: ^^^^
[23:51] <wrst> he is a big xubuntu guy
[23:52] <Unit193> Heeey, I'm not that fat. >_>
[23:52] <Omnifrog> it's on a netbook
[23:52] <Omnifrog> hi Unit193
[23:52] <Unit193> Howdy.
[23:52] <wrst> Unit193: was not referring to girth
[23:53] <wrst> :P
[23:56] <wrst> Unit193: you ready for a rolling release and Mir?
[23:56] <Unit193> No.
[23:56] <Unit193> From what I see, mir doesn't have a high chance.
[23:57] <wrst> I can't see that happening either
[23:57] <wrst> but I get the thought behind both
[23:58] <wrst> Omnifrog: how long have you been using Linux?
[23:58] <Omnifrog> since 98 or there abouts
[23:59] <wrst> oh goodness
[23:59] <Omnifrog> yeah, the good ol days
[23:59] <wrst> back before it was easy
[23:59] <Omnifrog> a long way before it was easy