[02:41] <direwolf> max memory is 192mb hahaha
[02:41] <omega_> Carlo768: I'll get that one, too.
[02:41] <omega_> I've used both, but I prefer Snes9x's interface.
[02:41] <omega_> Too bad it has some sound emulation errors.
[02:42] <dvsoftware> hello
[02:42] <Carlo768> i couldnt make snes9x work on ubuntu, so i always use zsnes
[02:42] <direwolf> with 192mb i could deal though
[02:42] <dvsoftware> i have a little problem with ubuntu 64 on my laptop which i bought today
[02:43] <Carlo768> does ubuntu kernel come with CONFIG_I2C=m and CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV=m? how can i check that?
[02:43] <omega_> Erm... where did Synaptic put Snes9x and Zsnes? :)
[02:43] <Carlo768> omega_ you have to enable more repositories
[02:43] <Seveas> Carlo768, check /boot/config-*
[02:43] <dvsoftware> when i enable nvidia-glx driver, i just get blank screen
[02:43] <omega_> I enabled everything; Snes9x common files, the frontend, and the X and OpenGL files.
[02:43] <Carlo768> oh
[02:43] <Seveas> Carlo768, and yes, both parts are built as modules
[02:44] <omega_> Where is it supposed to put the executables?
[02:44] <Carlo768> ok thanks
[02:44] <Seveas> omega_, /usr/bin normally
[02:44] <Carlo768> omega_, open a terminal and type zsnes
[02:44] <omega_> Okay, thanks.
[02:44] <Carlo768> or snes9x
[02:45] <kaffeend> um, I was advised to use synaptic to swith to KDE but I can't seem to figure out how to do it :s Can anyone help me with this please?
[02:45] <dvsoftware> kaffeend, just select all repositories, and under KDE section there will be "kde" package, just select it
[02:45] <omega_> That's strange. I found Zsnes, but not Snes9x.
[02:45] <Carlo768> Seveas ive read the instructions on building the video4linux modules and the only requisite is a kernel with that options =m, then 'make' and 'make install'
[02:46] <Seveas> Carlo768, where did you get the source from?
[02:46] <kaffeend> dvsoftware ok thanks - I'll give it a shot
[02:46] <Seveas> kaffeend, wait
[02:47] <Carlo768> http://linux.bytesex.org/v4l2/ i think is the official video4linux page
[02:47] <omega_> How do I run a search for a file?
[02:47] <Seveas> if you want to switch to kde, you'd better install the kubuntu-desktop package
[02:47] <Seveas> omega_, slocate
[02:47] <Carlo768> omega_ snes9x has different versions
[02:47] <direwolf> places > search for files...
[02:47] <kaffeend> waiting seveas
[02:47] <Seveas> omega_, but that uses a db updated once per day
[02:47] <kaffeend> good thing I'm slow :)
[02:47] <omega_> That's a terminal command, right? There's no way to do it in X?
[02:47] <Carlo768> omega_, open a terminal, write snes9x and push tab ac ouple of times
[02:47] <Seveas> kaffeend, if you want to switch to kde, you'd better install the kubuntu-desktop package
[02:47] <Seveas> not the KDE package :)
[02:48] <kaffeend> ok
[02:48] <direwolf> omega_: places > search for files...
[02:48] <omega_> Thanks.
[02:48] <omega_> Ah, that's what I was looking for.
[02:48] <kaffeend> seveas I didn't realize they were different
[02:50] <jowi> has anyone seen a BeOS "tracker"/panel/taskbar port for Linux?
[02:50] <GudyUbuntu> what is the command to install a .deb package?
[02:50] <kaffeend> getting sore eyes from my 60hz refresh rate here :(
[02:51] <Seveas> GudyUbuntu, sudo dpkg -i
[02:51] <kaffeend> can't find the kubuntu package
[02:51] <Seveas> kaffeend, are you still using warty?
[02:52] <kaffeend> warty?
[02:52] <Carlo768> seveas, i had to make ln -s linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386 linux-headers-2.6.10-5, because 'make' complaint about not founding /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.10-5, maybe that was a bad move?
[02:52] <IFRFLYR> Hi, I've got fonts in ~/.fonts which aren't getting picked up by OOo - some are, some not. Any special place OOo looks for fonts?
[02:53] <IFRFLYR> I should say that other apps pick up all the fonts in ~/.fonts
[02:53] <GudyUbuntu> Seveas: thanks
[02:53] <jowi> IFRFLYR, as far as I know only .ttf works... i think
[02:53] <IFRFLYR> jowi, right.
[02:54] <jowi> IFRFLYR, and it is also abit slow of picking them up. sometimes they will not appear until the next reboot (at least for me)
[02:54] <direwolf> 128mb pc100 so-dimm $35 at compusa ...nice
[02:54] <direwolf> looks like im gonna have to get it
[02:54] <jowi> IFRFLYR, might be because i installed them 2-3 at the time to test them out. i probably messed up somewhere :-)
[02:55] <IFRFLYR> aha. they're .pfb. Gimp sees them. I wonder if there is a way to convert pfb to ttf?
[02:55] <jowi> IFRFLYR, that is a great question
[02:55] <IFRFLYR> jowi, yeah, I had actually rebooted. But now I see the problem is the wrong font type - gimp is just really cool I guess.
[02:55] <simon_> "modconf: command not found" Which command should I then use?
[02:55] <direwolf> ive been running on 64mb ...i think i could handle 192mb ....well hopefully
[02:56] <kaffeend> Seveas what is this warty of which you speak?
[02:56] <djp> warty was the release of ubuntu before hoary
[02:56] <IFRFLYR> jowi thanks for the help!
[02:56] <ghoztly> I edited the gnome menu with smeg (gnome menu editor) and added a custom menu entry. I added a link that <inadvertently> contained a ' (apostrophe) character. Of course now smeg crashes. What is location of the default location for whatever files the gnome menu is stored in?
[02:57] <kaffeend> okay thanks djp
[02:57] <__fabrice__> hi
[02:57] <jowi> IFRFLYR, no probs
[02:57] <Carlo768> kaffeend, do System-> about Ubuntu
[02:57] <kaffeend> is there a name for the 64 bit version?
[02:57] <kaffeend> Carlo768 ok
[02:58] <Will_> I'm considering dual booting my main desktop, as I'm worried I will be unable to afford dual desktops when I'm paying my own electricity
[02:58] <ed1t> desktops dont consume that much electricity
[02:58] <direwolf> computers dont use as much electric as they used
[02:58] <ed1t> prolly like say $10 per month
[02:58] <direwolf> turn off your frig
[02:59] <direwolf> ;)
[02:59] <selinium> AArrghhh, i seem to have 'lost' xserver.xorg :( help
[02:59] <ed1t> selinium using breezy?
[02:59] <simon_> Are there a command there works like "modconf"? "modconf: command not found"
[02:59] <direwolf> lost as in its not loading?
[02:59] <persia> selinium: Where did you see it last?
[02:59] <selinium> persia: lol
[02:59] <direwolf> hahaha
[02:59] <persia> selinium: Perhaps I should say, before what was it working?
[02:59] <kaffeend> Carlo768 why am I reading this? This I read before I installed Ubuntu...
[02:59] <direwolf> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:00] <selinium> no i am using hoary, i was updating the nvidia driver and i have done something strange!
[03:00] <direwolf> ruh roh
[03:00] <direwolf> disregard
[03:00] <__fabrice__> hi everybody i'm running ubuntu 2.6.10-5-686-smp kernel and i can't activate DMA on cdrom.I googled but nothing unless recompiling kernel ... does somebody may help me thanks
[03:00] <Carlo768> kaffeend, there you can find what version are you using (warty or hoary?
[03:00] <direwolf> ubuntuaddon enabled my dma for me
[03:00] <jowi> __fabrice__, hdparm -d1 /dev/cdrom
[03:00] <Carlo768> mine showns 'Welcome to Ubuntu Linux 5.04 : The Hoary Hedgehog Release.'
[03:01] <persia> __fabrice__: If you have an IDE CDROM, hdparm should work.
[03:01] <selinium> direwolf when i key the command it replies as not installed!
[03:01] <__fabrice__> no i tried it ... it's refused
[03:01] <__fabrice__> what about ubuntuaddon direwolf ?
[03:02] <direwolf> fabrice it uses same as above afaik
[03:02] <kaffeend> Carlos768 I'm blind because I see no mention of them here
[03:02] <simon_> I want to install/remove kernel modules, but I cant use the command "modconf" as I normally use. Which command should I use now? Iam running Kubuntu.
[03:02] <persia> selinium: Does the output of `aptitude search xserver-xorg` have a satisfactory number of lines beginning "i A"?
[03:02] <persia> __fabrice__: Do you have a SCSI or USB CDROM?
[03:03] <persia> simon_: modprobe / rmmod
[03:03] <kaffeend> anyway is warty amd64?
[03:03] <Carlo768> hmmm no
[03:03] <kaffeend> hoarty then
[03:03] <Carlo768> warty warthog was the first release, and hoary hedgeog the second
[03:03] <persia> kaffeend: warty was also amd64.
[03:03] <Carlo768> both have 64bit versions
[03:03] <kaffeend> aaarrrgggghhhh
[03:03] <selinium> persia: it begins the line with i
[03:04] <jino> where cn i get libavcodeccvs
[03:04] <jowi> __fabrice__, did you try to umount the cdrom; change /etc/hdparm.conf and add "/dev/cdrom { dma = on }"
[03:04] <kaffeend> time for coffee
[03:04] <simon_> persia: It says FATAL: Module / not found.
[03:04] <persia> selinium: And dpkg-reconfigure reports the package as not installed?
[03:04] <jowi> __fabrice__, that will add dma at boottime
[03:04] <simon_> persia: I cant all modules in my head, so I need the normal "modconf" where there are categories with tons of modules..
[03:04] <Carlo768> can someone help me with the kernel source please?
[03:04] <__fabrice__> yes jowi here is my error HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[03:04] <selinium> persia: yep!
[03:04] <crimsun> Carlo768: did you install linux-source-2.6.10?
[03:04] <dvsoftware> doea anyone knows the solution to my problem with nvidia drivers
[03:05] <crimsun> __fabrice__: SATA HD?
[03:05] <__fabrice__> thx direwolf i'll see ubuntuaddon
[03:05] <Carlo768> crimsun i installed linux-tree and linux-headers-2.6.10-5-386
[03:05] <__fabrice__> yes crimsun
[03:05] <persia> simon_: Do you have hotplug installed?  If so, it should take care of 90% of your requirements.
[03:05] <selinium> persia: i like to be awkward!
[03:05] <Carlo768> should i install linux-source too?
[03:05] <Carlo768> i am trying to build video4linux modules
[03:05] <crimsun> __fabrice__: you can't set DMA for SATA HDs, it's already enabled by default. hdparm won't help.
[03:05] <simon_> persia: Yes, it is installed. I have a Trust Spacecam 380 webcam and a old Philips webcam..I wanted to see about I could get it to work, but I think I need video4linux
[03:06] <dockane>  i need to buy a usb2.0 pci card ... do i have the freedom of choice (cheapest one) or do i have to take care for a supported chipset ?
[03:06] <crimsun> __fabrice__: check with the -I parameter.
[03:06] <__fabrice__> yes crimsun DMA for SATA is good but no DMA on ide cdrom
[03:06] <crimsun> Carlo768: no, all you need are build-essential and linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:06] <dvsoftware> anyone?
[03:06] <persia> simon_: Unfortunately, I'm not sure which driver you need.  My apologies.
[03:06] <crimsun> __fabrice__: different device chain?
[03:06] <Carlo768> crimsun, i got those two packages, but video4linux still complaints about missing headers
[03:06] <__fabrice__> no crimson
[03:07] <crashd> hey guys :)
[03:07] <crashd> just trying ubuntu for the first time, pretty impressed so far
[03:07] <crashd> you guys have done a good job of making debian usable ;)
[03:07] <Sionide> good
[03:07] <selinium> persia: ANy ideas? Or is it reinstall time?
[03:07] <crimsun> Carlo768: did you tell the v4l configuration explicitly where the kernel headers are? e.g., /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build
[03:07] <crashd> the only problem im having is my wifi card
[03:07] <__fabrice__> my chipset is ICH5 and all works well except DMA on cdrom
[03:07] <Carlo768> crimson, how can i do that?
[03:08] <persia> selinium: Give me a little longer to think about this one: it sounds like the packaging scripts are confused, or I'm missing something (probably the latter).
[03:08] <crimsun> Carlo768: you need to read the instructions for the v4l compilation/installation.
[03:08] <selinium> persia: np, glad for the help!
[03:08] <crashd> ubuntu picks the card up when it get splugged into the pcmcia slot
[03:08] <simon_> persia: Okay, but thanks anyway.
[03:08] <crashd> i tjust refuses to connect/scan/acknowledge networks :\
[03:09] <kaffeend> okay - let's forget about kubuntu for now... Can anyone help me with making my system compatible with windows games please? I think I need winex, is this right?
[03:09] <GreenDot> hello gang...i coulnd't find anything in the documentation about my problem i'm having.  i'm failing to install Ubuntu on my iBook G4 because the boot loader gives me an error when installing
[03:10] <icewt> kaffeend, you mean cedega
[03:10] <Fitzsimmons> kaffeend: giv eup
[03:10] <majic> kaffeend: I believe there are a few options for installing windows games like for instance using cedega
[03:10] <majic> but it's not a 100% solution, not all games run as far as I know
[03:10] <Carlo768> crimsun, ive read it and this is all the info about building : Pick up videodev + v4l2 patches from http://bytesex.org/patches/.
[03:10] <Carlo768> Configure, build, install + boot the new kernel.  You'll need at least
[03:10] <Carlo768> these config options:
[03:10] <Carlo768> 	CONFIG_I2C=m
[03:10] <Carlo768> 	CONFIG_VIDEO_DEV=m
[03:10] <Carlo768> Type "make" to build the driver now.  "make install" installs the
[03:10] <Carlo768> driver.  "modprobe saa7134" should load it.  Depending on the card you
[03:10] <Carlo768> might have to pass card=<nr> as insmod option, check CARDLIST for
[03:10] <Carlo768> valid choices.
[03:10] <persia> selinium: What do you get from `dpkg --status xserver-xorg | grep Status`
[03:10] <crimsun> Carlo768: please don't flood here, thanks.
[03:11] <GreenDot> kaffeend:  use windows for gaming, and thats it
[03:11] <Carlo768> sorry
[03:11] <dvsoftware> how to use card reader integrated on laptop?
[03:11] <kaffeend> so, cedega or give up are my only options then? lol
[03:11] <crimsun> Carlo768: then you need to read the Makefile to see where v4l looks for the kernel headers.
[03:11] <GreenDot> i only play games in linux if it was built for linux, it's the only way we know it will run without any problems, and cedega has very few completly compatible titles it can play
[03:11] <majic> kaffeend: there are a few solutions to playing windows games but they are not 100% effective. Not all games run.
[03:12] <Carlo768> crimsun, where are the kernel headers located?
[03:12] <selinium> persia: is not installed :(
[03:12] <dex> anybody knows what package i need in order to connect to microsoft exchange 5.5
[03:12] <Carlo768> /usr/include or /lib/modules?
[03:12] <kaffeend> majic I specifically want to run FarCry 64 bit if I can
[03:12] <Carlo768> im a bit confused
[03:12] <direwolf> heh
[03:12] <crimsun> Carlo768: use the latter. -> /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build
[03:13] <kaffeend> but at least cedega would be a start
[03:13] <GreenDot> seriously now, I'm having installation difficulty with the PPC Ubuntu
[03:13] <persia> selinium: OK.  I trust dpkg more than aptitude.  Try `sudo aptitude install xserver-xorg`.
[03:13] <dex> anybody knows what package i need in order to connect to microsoft exchange 5.5
[03:13] <majic> kaffeend: I'm not a windows gamer, I don't have information on what runs and what doesn't. I'm a firm believer in console gaming
[03:13] <GreenDot> it's telling me it failed to install the bootloader
[03:13] <dex> anybody knows what package i need in order to connect to microsoft exchange 5.5
[03:13] <kaffeend> majic yah, but I mod :(
[03:14] <dvsoftware> anyone knows how to install nvidia drivers on geforce4 go (64bit machine)
[03:14] <Pegasos989> "For MP3 support in Rhythmbox and other gstreamer applications, type the following into a terminal (requires multiverse):" How do i find this terminal-thingie and do I need to worry if I have that multiverse thing?
[03:14] <persia> selinium: You may even do better with x-window-system-core.
[03:14] <Pegasos989> Is terminal from system tools
[03:14] <dex> anybody knows what package i need in order to connect to microsoft exchange 5.5
[03:14] <crimsun> Pegasos989: yes.
[03:14] <jadedstar> Pegasos989: Yes
[03:14] <Pegasos989> k
[03:14] <Carlo768> crimsun, i found this comment on Make.config:# doesn't build on kernels older than 2.6.12
[03:14] <aru> dex: did you try google.com?
[03:15] <crimsun> Carlo768: there ya go.
[03:15] <Carlo768> hmm
[03:15] <jadedstar> Does anyone know any good rpg games that might be floating out there?
[03:15] <persia> dex: for evolution, try evolution-exchange.
[03:15] <Carlo768> it is possible to upgrade the new kernel and use it withouth rebooting?
[03:16] <ph8> can anyone answer a nub question for me? What's the difference between 686 and 386?
[03:16] <ph8> (kernels)
[03:16] <dvsoftware> Carlo768, no
[03:16] <ph8> When i boot i have the option of going into 686 or 386, both seem to work the same way
[03:16] <windex> dex, i think evolution is the only client to support all of exchange's feature set. but i could be wrong.
[03:16] <dex> i think evolution only support exchange 2000 and 2003 not 5.5
[03:16] <dvsoftware> ph8, different architecture
[03:16] <persia> Carlo768: You'd need to configure a virtual machine of some sort...
[03:16] <majic> ph8 686 are optimized for pentiums while 386 are generic
[03:17] <majic> or pentium class CPU's
[03:17] <kaffeend> does Ubuntu have a html editor per se?
[03:17] <ph8> so if i have a pentium M in my laptop (which i do), 686 is the best bet?
[03:17] <Carlo768> my HD broke and is under repair, so i am using the livecd thats why i cant reboot
[03:17] <majic> kaffeend: try Amaya
[03:17] <lordmansfeld> vim? :)
[03:17] <ph8> kaffeend: Kate is nice
[03:17] <ph8> best one i've found
[03:17] <kaffeend> k thanks
[03:17] <selinium> persia: Shoot me now......
[03:17] <dex> yes i try evolution but our exchange server is version 5.5
[03:17] <Carlo768> is there a livecd with 2.6.12 kernel avaiable?
[03:18] <Kyral> wtf is the difference in Kernel versions anyway
[03:18] <selinium> persia: i was keying xserver.xorg not xserver-xorg. Sorry for wasting your time
[03:18] <majic> Kyral: bug fixes, more drivers, enhancements
[03:18] <persia> dex: configure the POP or IMAP transport on the exchange server.  You'll get limited functionality, but it's better than nothing.
[03:18] <Kyral> Yah but......bah
[03:19] <persia> selinium: No worries.  Is it working?
[03:19] <Juhaz> ph8, yes, pm is i686
[03:19] <Kyral> my Kernel works for me (2.6.10) and I doubt I'll upgrade until the 2.8 series :P
[03:19] <simplydazed> Hi, how can i fix the display problem with Hoary and an i845 board? It's stuck @ 640x480. Thanks
[03:19] <dex> what do yo mean? @ persia
[03:20] <selinium> persia: I will need to reboot to find out if the config has worked but the reconfigure is working yes.
[03:20] <aru> !tell simplydazed about resolution
[03:20] <selinium> Unless there is a way of doing without rebooting?
[03:20] <Carlo768> is there a livecd with 2.6.12 kernel avaiable? or any way to boot the livecd with it? (maybe with a floppy?)
[03:20] <persia> Kyral: For details, try kernel.org.  More generally, newer versions in the same series (2.8, 2.10, 2.12) are usually faster and smaller, support more devlices, and have fewer security holes.
[03:20] <majic> upgrading kernels and new versions of software is a disease, there is no cure. Once you upgrade there will soon be another, it's a never ending cycle and it's proven to do nothing but waste time
[03:20] <dvsoftware> can someone please answer my question
[03:20] <dvsoftware> when i install nvidia-glx
[03:21] <lordmansfeld> someone mentioned Amaya; I'm having some trouble installing it
[03:21] <dvsoftware> and enable it
[03:21] <majic> I've been afflicted by it for about 10 years
[03:21] <dvsoftware> i just get blank screen
[03:21] <persia> dex: If evolution doesn't support Exchange 5.5 directly, the Exchange admin can probably turn on some Exchange features to allow any ubuntu mailreader to work.
[03:21] <dvsoftware> when i disable glx
[03:21] <kaffeend> is Kate for KDE or Ubuntu?
[03:21] <dvsoftware> resolution is kinda messed up
[03:21] <aru> lordmansfeld: how are you trying to install it?
[03:21] <dvsoftware> kaffeend, kate is for kde
[03:21] <kaffeend> ok
[03:22] <kaffeend> will look for amaya
[03:22] <persia> selinium: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[03:22] <dex> i think they will need to upgrade to 2003:)
[03:22] <kaffeend> unless that's kde too?
[03:22] <gus_> hi all   Good jo on kubuntu. It got me off gentoo ;)
[03:22] <gus_> job that is.
[03:23] <aru> this is #ubuntu :)
[03:23] <lordmansfeld> aru: I tried to compile from source, I get errors with GTK+ (IIRC), doesn't work with wxWidgets either, and the .deb needs libc6 (*.21 something version number, i can only get .20)
[03:23] <Carlo768> is there a livecd with 2.6.12 kernel avaiable? or any way to boot the livecd with it? (maybe with a floppy?) can someone help me please?
[03:23] <gus_> the cool tech under the hood is still ubuntu, whos speed is impressive - and got me off gentoo
[03:23] <aru> lordmansfeld: hmm, I would have went to System > Administration > Synaptic and searched for amaya, double clicked it and pressed apply
[03:23] <dvsoftware> please, i can't use 3d apps unless i install nvidia drivers
[03:24] <persia> Carlo768: You don't want to run ubuntu 2.6.12 with hoary - I tried that and spent a week cleaning up after myself.
[03:24] <pinky2000> What's everyone's favorite terminal program? I find gnome terminal a little bloated and xterm just doesn't have the features.
[03:24] <kaffeend> gus_ how is kubuntu?
[03:24] <dvsoftware> pinky2000, i use konsole on kde, and its my favorite
[03:24] <lordmansfeld> aru: hmm... *rubs eyes* how come I didn't see that earlier? -.-
[03:24] <gus_> faster than gtk based crud ;)   sorry guys
[03:24] <simplydazed> aru, thank you, let me give it a shot
[03:24] <aru> if you find a terminal to be bloated, then you need to get a life :)
[03:24] <gus_> kaffeend:  its really usable and fast.. some bugs tho.
[03:24] <Carlo768> persia: i need 2.6.12 or my video capture card wont work
[03:24] <gus_> but fixable
[03:24] <aru> simplydazed: hope it works out, come back if it doesn't
[03:25] <kaffeend> gus_ bad bugs or manageable bugs? :)
[03:25] <aru> lordmansfeld: the GUI is your friend :)
[03:25] <persia> Carlo768: I understand: my joystick doesn't work.  Wait until next month, and maybe breezy will be safe...
[03:25] <gus_> manageble. some sudo and su inconsistencies for shich I just gave the root account a password.
[03:25] <Carlo768> sigh*
[03:26] <kaffeend> gus_ can you get more than 60hz refresh rate? lol
[03:26] <Carlo768> well, thanks everybody for the help
[03:26] <gus_> kaffeend:  the kde control panel needs su to work by default   so the whole sudo system was hacked <in>
[03:26] <Pegasos989> How much space ubuntu takes from hard drive when installed? And do i need to make boot partition, if I also want to keeps windows installed?
[03:26] <lordmansfeld> aru: thanks, it works fine now ;)
[03:26] <kaffeend> doh
[03:27] <aru> lordmansfeld: you can try searching Synpatic for any software you want, and once you enable Universe respositories you get a ton of software
[03:27] <lordmansfeld> aru: thanks, I've been using Synaptic for a while, just forgot to check it first for Amaya :)
[03:27] <aru> :)
[03:27] <dvsoftware> :(
[03:27] <gus_> kaffeend: im on LCD  - so the refresh is fine.   LCD's have refresh rates you can tweak right?
[03:28] <crashd> when i plug my pcmcia wifi card in it coems up as eth1 (admtek adm8211)
[03:28] <aru> I haven't compiled one thing from source since I installed ubuntu, very exciting
[03:28] <crashd> now, it "works" in that i can query it
[03:28] <crashd> but it doesnt seem to want to do much else
[03:28] <crashd> any ideas O.o
[03:28] <persia> Pegasos989: I have a lot of stuff installed, and it uses about 5GB.  You only need a boot partition if you want to be safe, or if you have some strange boot system, like flash boot or something.
[03:29] <direwolf> i had to compile driver module for wireless card but it doesnt do wep so im stuck with ndiswrapper
[03:29] <Kyral> or if you trash your system on a regular basis like I do :P
[03:29] <kaffeend> gus_ dunno enough about LCDs. But if my eyes weren't so sore I'd just stick with gnome, but kubuntu seems to be my only option I'm afraid
[03:29] <dvsoftware> i just don't understand why my nvidia geforce go won't work after installing nvidia drivers
[03:29] <crashd> direwolf: what card you usig?
[03:29] <aru> !nvidia
[03:29] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:29] <occy> can I have sudo invoke a command as a user without prompting for a password?  I only want it for this one command.
[03:29] <aru> dvsoftware: did you follow that like?
[03:29] <aru> err
[03:29] <aru> link?
[03:29] <dvsoftware> aru
[03:30] <persia> occy: man sudoers
[03:30] <dvsoftware> apt-get install nvidia-glx
[03:30] <occy> persia, ahhh ok.  I was in sudo
[03:30] <dvsoftware> and... enable thing... dunno the name right now
[03:30] <occy> (man sudo rather)
[03:30] <Pegasos989> Hmm. Propably one of the mainreasons for me to change to linux from the "good" ol' windows is safty, so I might make the boot partition then... I guess I do have that 5 gigs free on my anime hd... Well... May the partitioning begin (on the side of windows...)!
[03:30] <aru> dvsoftware: ok, but following that link might help a lot
[03:30] <dvsoftware> ok, will try
[03:31] <dvsoftware> it's 64 bit system if it matters
[03:31] <direwolf> have a good day everyone
[03:31] <aru> just means you had to pay more for a regular computer :)
[03:32] <Gerrath> There is a set of guidelines when providing support on this channel, I found the link once but I can't seem to find it now on the Ubuntu website, can someone give it to me?
[03:32] <crashd> can anyone give us a hand with wifi setup pls ;)
[03:32] <ph8> so how do i remove 386 from my machine?
[03:32] <dvsoftware> crashd, what iwconfig says?
[03:33] <crashd> iwconfig lists eth1 as the wireless adapter, ieee 802.11b
[03:33] <crashd> but
[03:33] <crashd> it isnt associated with any networks yet
[03:33] <dvsoftware> set up essid for wifi card
[03:33] <simplydazed> aru: much better, thank you
[03:33] <Gerrath> I remember one of the rules was not to reference Ubuntuguide since it does not provide any details and history.
[03:33] <aru> simplydazed: not a problem
[03:33] <dvsoftware> iwconfig eth1 essid something
[03:33] <aru> !ubuntuguide
[03:33] <andpoi> Hello.
[03:33] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably a set of instructions with no explanation. Please do not advise people to use ubuntuguide.  Advise https://wiki.ubuntu.com instead. Item 4 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewUsersNetworkGuidelines explains why.
[03:33] <crashd> dvsoftware: the essid of the access point (along with the keys im guessing)
[03:33] <dvsoftware> yes
[03:33] <aru> Gerrath: follow that link
[03:34] <crashd> see
[03:34] <simplydazed> aru: comming from RHEL & Fedora...
[03:34] <Gerrath> Thanks.
[03:34] <kaffeend> BTW peeps, could anyone please tell me why it takes forever for firefox to open a web page?
[03:34] <andpoi> I just installed ubuntu yesterday
[03:34] <aru> the Network Guidelines
[03:34] <andpoi> I'm in love.
[03:34] <crashd> i tried that, and it throws a "SET failed on device eth1; Operation not permitted"
[03:34] <aru> simplydazed: I came from windows xp :)
[03:34] <majic> kaffeend: you have a slow internet connection?
[03:34] <crashd> which strikes me as a bit odd
[03:34] <kaffeend> andpoi same here :D welcome!
[03:34] <kaffeend> majic it was fast with windows
[03:34] <aru> persia: you can follow that link also
[03:34] <dvsoftware> crashd, dunno
[03:35] <dvsoftware> i don't have that problems
[03:35] <ph8> so how do i remove the 386 kernel from my machine?
[03:35] <crashd> hehe
[03:35] <Kyral> hmm
[03:35] <crashd> i think i can set an essid via the network dialogue
[03:35] <Kyral> this is odd
[03:35] <simplydazed> aru: heh, orrite. In RH there is chkconfig to set daemon status according to runtimes, in Ubuntu there is?
[03:35] <Gerrath> aru, that was it.
[03:35] <majic> kaffeend: you have a slow computer?
[03:35] <aru> Gerrath: excellent
[03:35] <persia> aru: Thans.  Not quite what I was hunting, but helpful nonetheless.
[03:35] <majic> I don't seem to have that problem here
[03:35] <aru> simplydazed: that I do not know
[03:35] <occy> persia, :/  Man... do you know off hand.  That seems fairly complicated.
[03:35] <Kyral> GAIM cannot play sounds..wehn VLC is playing something...wait a second..*goes to check his VLC settings*
[03:35] <aru> persia: almost excellent :)
[03:36] <occy> persia, I simply want to be able to bind a key for   rmmod psmouse
[03:36] <simplydazed> aru: ok, thanks again
[03:36] <aru> no
[03:36] <dvsoftware> aru, i already did that from that guide
[03:36] <crashd> but if i put an essid and a keypair in for it, the dialogue just hangs
[03:36] <aru> simplydazed: no problem
[03:36] <occy> and need sudo not to need a password for it.
[03:36] <dvsoftware> and i get just blank screen
[03:36] <kaffeend> not with a gig of ram, and an AMD64 cpu I don't majic
[03:36] <aru> kaffeend: maybe your stopwatch is broken?
[03:36] <majic> yeah
[03:36] <occy> gonna bind a key to enable/disable touch pad  (typing makes it go wacky all the time)
[03:36] <kaffeend> aru That must be it! :P
[03:36] <aru> last time I was timing all my apps, I realised my stopwatch batteries were going dead
[03:37] <dvsoftware> occy, i have that key builtin
[03:37] <majic> kaffeend: I run Ubuntu on a 566 mhz celeron with 256 ram.   An example line is "pete		HPPA = /usr/bin/passwd [A-z] *, !/usr/bin/passwd root", meaning pete can change anyone's password except root's.
[03:38] <kaffeend> I think I know - I'm going to reveal my true n00bness here - I have Fat32 partitions :s
[03:38] <HrdwrBoB> fat32 partition is good
[03:38] <Kyral> kaffeend, I have FAT32 partitions
[03:38] <HrdwrBoB> means you can easily write to it in linux
[03:38] <kaffeend> really?
[03:38] <Kyral> Easy to set permissions :D
[03:38] <aru> Easy to fsck
[03:39] <occy> persia, hmm ok.
[03:39] <kaffeend> cool :D
[03:39] <Kyral> one line in Fstab sets permissions for everyone
[03:39] <aru> doh!
[03:39] <lordmansfeld> btw, is there any difference between reiserfs and ext3?
[03:40] <drcode> hi all
[03:40] <kaffeend> drcode hi
[03:40] <drcode> modem with sound can be supported?
[03:40] <kaffeend> ??
[03:40] <drcode> I Want to save greating file
[03:40] <drcode> from my hand phone
[03:41] <occy> Warning: undeclared Host_Alias `HPPA' referenced near line 23
[03:41] <occy> Warning: undeclared Host_Alias `HPPA' referenced near line 24
[03:41] <occy> hmm
[03:41] <persia> occy: Oops: forgive my cut & paste - in the sample line, replace HPPA with ALL.
[03:41] <occy> october  HPPA = /sbin/rmmod
[03:41] <occy> october  HPPA = /sbin/insmod
[03:41] <occy> persia, hehehe
[03:41] <occy> np
[03:42] <occy> hmm
[03:42] <uber_newber> to install windows 98, is all i need to do is download this?  >        http://seraphimhacks.sytes.net/98se.htm     and then burn to a cd?
[03:43] <kaffeend> with windows (yesterday) I would type google into the address bar and bang - there it is! But now I can roll a cigarette in the time it takes to come up... :(
[03:43] <jowi> uber_newber, wow, that looks legal ;-)
[03:43] <mastertet> Hello
[03:43] <mastertet> I just installed hoary
[03:44] <uber_newber> jowi: lol a friend posted it for me
[03:44] <uber_newber> :-)
[03:44] <persia> occy: for a single user, it's better to put all the commands on one llne (/sbin/rmmod, /sbin/insmod), I think.
[03:44] <Kyral> Can anyone reccomend a good Icon theme to go along with an Aqua styled GNOME Theme
[03:44] <mastertet> I also installed gstreamer...mad from universe, but several of the stream I was using under debian don't work and freez rhythmbox and bmp?
[03:44] <occy> persia, ahhh okies
[03:45] <kaffeend> Kyral where to get a Aqua theme for gnome?
[03:45] <Nermal> uber_newber, 404 on the download
[03:45] <Nermal> kaffeend, that's sooo 2000
[03:45] <jowi> Kyral, art.gnome.org
[03:45] <kaffeend> Nermal wha?
[03:45] <Kyral> kaffeend, the Glossy P theme from art.gnome.org is good
[03:46] <Kyral> jowi, I've looked :P
[03:46] <occy> persia, it lets me do it, but it's asking for a pass.
[03:46] <jowi> Kyral, sorry, meant for kaffeend
[03:46] <kaffeend> Kyral thanks ;)
[03:46] <jowi> lol
[03:46] <uber_newber> Nermal: whats that mean?
[03:46] <occy> course, I'm in sudoers already for ALL
[03:46] <occy> heh
[03:46] <kaffeend> thanks jowi
[03:46] <Nermal> uber_newber, download doesn't exist
[03:47] <Kyral> Can't find a nice one...
[03:47] <uber_newber> nermal: oh
[03:47] <Kyral> trying to find one like the Mac OS X theme :P
[03:47] <Nermal> buy a mac :)
[03:47] <Nermal> then we won't have to support you either :)
[03:47] <jowi> haha
[03:48] <supernix>  hmmm am I in trouble
[03:48] <Nermal> woo .. mozilla corporation launched.. netscape all over again :)
[03:48] <jowi> i think that the agua theme comes close (don't use metacity anymore so i'm not up-to-date)
[03:48] <supernix> The top of my screen is doing something funny
[03:48] <supernix> I see the sides at the very top starting to get a little bit wavy
[03:49] <persia> occy: Perhaps I don't understand sudo as well as I thought.  The only reference I can find is adding a user to the sudo group, but that doesn't help for only one command...   My apologies.
[03:49] <supernix> hmm doesnt seem to be doing it now
[03:49] <jowi> supernix, maybe monitor that is getting old? or refreshrate for the monitor..
[03:49] <supernix> but there for a short period after the screen came back on it did get wavy just a hair
[03:50] <jowi> supernix, if you have a CRT screen you could try to degaus it
[03:50] <occy> persia, No worries Mate.  You tried to help and I do thank you.
[03:51] <supernix> ty jowi
[03:51] <supernix> What does degausing do ?
[03:51] <Sonderblade> /proc/cpuinfo only shows one cpu when i have a P4 with Hyperthreading why?
[03:51] <persia> occy: Take a look at /usr/share/doc/sudo/examples/sudoers.  There's a line in there with NOPASSWD - if you can decode the syntax, you can probably make it work.
[03:51] <gwxnei001> k i know this isnt really ubuntu realted, i need some help making a new form pop up when i press a button in qt designer...anyone??
[03:51] <occy> ahhh
[03:51] <supernix> I did that once before still don't quite understand it
[03:51] <occy> persia, ok
[03:53] <sklp> Sonderblade: you need an smp-enabled kernel to take advantage of hyperthreading
[03:53] <occy> persia, I think I got it.
[03:53] <occy> persia, unless I haven't timed out.
[03:53] <occy> hehe
[03:53] <occy> here's the line:
[03:53] <kaffeend> Kyral I'm at that site and they have 0 desktop themes wtf?
[03:53] <occy> october  ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/rmmod,/sbin/modprobe
[03:54] <persia> occy: does it still ask for a password if you use modprobe?
[03:54] <Kyral> kaffeend, check Window Borders
[03:54] <kaffeend> kk
[03:54] <occy> persia, w00p! it works
[03:54] <occy> ;)
[03:55] <occy> opend another term, (where it asked me for my sudo su - pass)
[03:55] <HrdwrBoB> sudo -s
[03:55] <persia> occy: Glad to hear it then.  Thanks for posting the line.
[03:55] <HrdwrBoB> will giv eyou a root shell
[03:55] <occy> and then typed:  (without putting in my sudo pass)  I typed:    sudo rmmod psmouse   and it worked!
[03:55] <occy> persia, hey, thank you.  ;)
[03:55] <andpoi> I'm having problems with Audio/MP3
[03:55] <Seveas> HrdwrBoB, use sudo -i
[03:55] <occy> it's all about team.
[03:55] <occy> hehe
[03:55] <Seveas> not sudo -s
[03:55] <andpoi> I can't get the package gstreamer-mad thing
[03:55] <HrdwrBoB> Seveas: depends what you want
[03:55] <HrdwrBoB> anyway, bed time for me
[03:56] <kaffeend> hey these are some nice skins :D
[03:56] <Seveas> HrdwrBoB, i have not seen a single thing that needs -s
[03:56] <jowi> andpoi, the file name should be gstreamer0.8-mad
[03:56] <Will_> Well. I just installed kubuntu. And I have to admit, I like KDE more
[03:56] <andpoi> Yea, it doesnt' work
[03:56] <dvsoftware> i'm downlading official nvidia drivers
[03:57] <andpoi> jowi, can we PM?
[03:57] <jowi> !mp3
[03:57] <ubotu> mp3 is probably read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats for information about mp3 support
[03:57] <kaffeend> Kyral what's the d/load and install protocol with these peppies please?
[03:57] <persia> dvsoftware: Be careful: the newer versions don't support the older cards...
[03:57] <kaffeend> puppies*
[03:57] <dvsoftware> persia, what about nvidia geforce4 440 go ?
[03:57] <Sonderblade> sklp, thanks will just apt-get linux-686-smp do it automagically?
[03:58] <Kyral> kaffeend, there is an FAQ right there that explains it better than I can
[03:58] <Seveas> Sonderblade, you will have to reboot to :)
[03:58] <persia> dvsoftware: I don't know.  The NVIDIA site allows you to download the README before you download the drivers, and it has a list for each version.
[03:58] <kaffeend> Kyral okay - didn't see that - thanks ;)
[03:58] <dvsoftware> persia, it's quite new, it's in amd64 notebook
[04:00] <persia> dvsoftware: Never mind then - I'm abviously too tired: I thought it was an older model from something you said earlier, and forgot about the AMD64.  You're probably supported.
[04:00] <occy> persia, http://occy.net/node/135
[04:00] <dvsoftware> ok, i hope it will solve blank screen issue
[04:02] <persia> occy: That's probably worth adding to the wiki: I didn't see anything there.
[04:02] <Simonth> How do I install the files from www.openoffice.org? I can only get a very old version from apt-get,  I want the new 1.9 from www.openoffice.org, but I dont know how to install
[04:02] <_ng> Hi everybody. I'm building my own MySQL packages and put "Provides: libmysqlclient10, libmysqlclient12, mysql-common" in the control-file. That works fine for courier-authmysql, postfix-gld and postfix-mysql but proftpd-mysql still wants me to install libmysqlclient10. Any ideas?
[04:02] <OculusAquilae> Simonth: is it right that there are rpm files?
[04:03] <windex> Simonth, i have had problems with the openoffice development tree, and so have others. that's why it hasn't been released as 2.0 yet.
[04:03] <windex> Simonth, if you do install it be prepared for random crashing and document mangling.
[04:04] <jino> how to install real player
[04:04] <kaffeend> Damn! I downloaded this file but I have no idea where to???
[04:04] <windex> kaffeend, in firefox?
[04:05] <Simonth> OculusAquilae and windex: Okay, then I dont think I install it. It justs that that I LOVE new files ;)
[04:05] <kaffeend> windex yup
[04:05] <jino> Seveas, how to install real player?
[04:05] <windex> kaffeend, edit -> prefrences -> downloads .. see where downloads go by default.
[04:05] <kaffeend> windex ok cheers
[04:05] <jino> Some body plz help me installing real player
[04:06] <Simonth> Will Mozilla Thunderbird come on danish langague?
[04:06] <jino> bob2, how can i install real player?
[04:06] <dvsoftware> GeForce4 440 Go                    0x0174
[04:06] <OculusAquilae> Simonth: there are packages in breezy (next ubuntu version) scheduled for october
[04:06] <dvsoftware> well it's supported
[04:06] <drcode> hi all
[04:06] <windex> kaffeend, if that dosen't work, and you know the file name, you can run 'sudo updatedb' and then 'locate <filename>'.
[04:06] <bob2> jino: wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:06] <drcode> how can I send at command to modem ?
[04:07] <drcode> with echo somthing ?
[04:07] <kaffeend> thanks again windex - turned out to be the desktop :P
[04:07] <Simonth> OculusAquilae, in 2 months right?..Okay - when breezy comes, do I need to burn a new cd and install from new or can I just upgrade?
[04:07] <windex> kaffeend, haha. :)
[04:07] <OculusAquilae> Simonth: you can upgrade
[04:07] <jino> thanx
[04:07] <Simonth> OculusAquilae, okay - good..
[04:08] <OculusAquilae> Simonth: but it is much too download
[04:08] <kaffeend> mmmm.... Digital_Cream....
[04:08] <andpoi> Anyone have gstreamer0.8-mad installed?
[04:09] <yomi> hey all. Got an error while booting the installation CD for Ubuntu: Uncompressing Linux... CRC error > -- System halted.
[04:09] <Simonth> OculusAquilae, how much? If it is lower than 1000mb it is a little bit only..
[04:09] <InitMass> i think that ubuntu should have a firewall installed by default. many new users unexperienced users forget to install and use it otherwise
[04:09] <kaffeend> now my windows look like ipod :D
[04:09] <andpoi> Anyone have gstreamer0.8-mad installed?
[04:09] <windex> Simonth, i may just be bitter because openoffice 2 'preview' release when it came out obliterated a business proposal i had spent 3 hours on. i had saved it regularly, but when it crashed, it overwrote the file with junk.
[04:09] <andpoi> I think the server it's on is down, because I can't get it.
[04:09] <jowi> guys, andpoi need gstreamer0.8-mad and have added the repos. apt-get still fails. i need to go.
[04:09] <jbpunk> who can speak Chinese?
[04:09] <jbpunk> ??
[04:09] <Simonth> windex, I see it is not working yet then :/
[04:10] <windex> Simonth, it might be slightly better now, but it was not a couple months ago.
[04:10] <occy> haha
[04:10] <occy> kick buttocks.
[04:10] <occy> hmm
[04:10] <occy> I wonder if there is a way to control the mouse with the arrow keys
[04:11] <Simonth> windex, Okay, but I just wait until a working OpenOffice 2 come out in ubuntu/kubuntu packages
[04:11] <occy> anyone know?
[04:11] <OculusAquilae> Simonth: i don't know how much you have to download, depends on the number of packages you have installed, but i think it will be less than 1000MB :-)
[04:11] <windex> occy, if there isin't, thats an accessibility feature that most likely should exist. :)
[04:11] <occy> windex, nod nod
[04:11] <occy> it'd be a neat trick to use if you don't have a mouse handy
[04:12] <kaffeend> can do it in xp :P
[04:12] <jbpunk> "can do it in xp "    wh???
[04:12] <windex> he means you can use the numpad as a mouse in xp.
[04:12] <windex> which is correct.
[04:12] <kaffeend> can do it in xp with a magnifying lense and a voive that reads to you
[04:13] <kaffeend> voice
[04:13] <dvsoftware> xp sucks
[04:13] <kaffeend> yep
[04:13] <Simonth> OculusAquilae, Okay - then it is nothing ;)
[04:13] <windex> dvsoftware, not if you're blind, or paralyzed, evidently.
[04:14] <jbpunk> fuck   Windows ---Me--xp---!!!
[04:14] <dvsoftware> xp was "alive" for about 15 minutes on my notebook
[04:14] <dvsoftware> and i accidently put ubuntu cd in dvd drive
[04:14] <occy> with this laptop, I never booted it to windows.
[04:14] <occy> I put in the Ubuntu CD, and never saw a windows screen
[04:14] <kaffeend> mine was no accident
[04:14] <occy> it's completely clean
[04:14] <lordmansfeld> occy: I remember doing that a few days ago (in linux)
[04:14] <occy> :)
[04:14] <drcode> vgetty is for voice/data?
[04:14] <dvsoftware> occy, i got it with windoze
[04:14] <lordmansfeld> but I can't remember how >.<
[04:14] <drcode> is there option to get fax/voice?
[04:14] <occy> lordmansfeld, using arrow keys with mouse?
[04:15] <occy> lordmansfeld, hmmm
[04:15] <lordmansfeld> occy: yes
[04:15] <lordmansfeld> I'll have a look...
[04:15] <jbpunk> everyone use FreeBSD  ?
[04:15] <kaffeend> not me yet
[04:15] <occy> lordmansfeld, thanks
[04:15] <dvsoftware> not for sure
[04:15] <windex> jbpunk, i've got it installed on one of my machines. i installed it when they implimented kernel-level threading so i could play with it. :)
[04:15] <dvsoftware> everyone???
[04:16] <jbpunk> o  !   any ?
[04:16] <dvsoftware> jbailey, i think this is ubuntu linux supprot chanel and not freebsd support channel
[04:17] <occy> lordmansfeld, gonna go google
[04:17] <jbailey> dvsoftware: Hmm?
[04:17] <occy> on another desktop.
[04:17] <occy> bbiab
[04:17] <dvsoftware> jbailey, sorry
[04:17] <dvsoftware> i meant jbpunk
[04:17] <jbailey> dvsoftware: Nothing stopping you from making an Ubuntu system based off of FreeBSD. =)
[04:18] <jbailey> Ah. =)
[04:18] <jbailey> No worries.
[04:18] <jbpunk> Who can tell me ?   ubuntu  or  debian  which  better?
[04:18] <lordmansfeld> occy: it was in SuSE, it's an option in SaX2
[04:19] <occy> lordmansfeld, ahhh
[04:19] <dvsoftware> jbpunk, if you are using it for desktop
[04:19] <dvsoftware> ubuntu
[04:19] <osfameron> dvsoftware: not for laptop?
[04:19] <dvsoftware> osfameron, i meant for basic desktop operations
[04:19] <jbpunk> ubuntu  ?    Web  ?
[04:20] <godzirra> Where does qmail send bounced mails?
[04:20] <godzirra> what user account?
[04:20] <dvsoftware> surfing, office, gaming, multimedia
[04:20] <crashd> hmm
[04:20] <lordmansfeld> occy: found it
[04:20] <crashd> has anyone had much luck with expocity?
[04:20] <lordmansfeld> occy: http://www.maysville-linux-users-group.org/article5.html
[04:20] <jbpunk> dvsoftware  haha !    I am  CHinese
[04:21] <windex> holy crap. was maysville-lug.org just not available?!
[04:21] <occy> lordmansfeld, ooh ok
[04:22] <itz> How do i do to get a user full rights over a group of users? lets say i connect a couple of user to froup "ftp" nad i want user "john" to get the rights to delete or move everything the group "ftp" creates?
[04:23] <ph8> lo all, i'm trying to install my ATI drivers - i've found a tutorial on the forums which is just dandy but whenever i change the driver from "ATI" to "fglrx" things start breaking - apparently this is the important step but i've got no idea how to debug
[04:24] <jbpunk> My machine is very poor, i can use which os, ???   for desktop!
[04:24] <_SWAT_> jbpunk, please be a bit more specific
[04:25] <jbpunk> pecific ??   what is ?
[04:25] <_SWAT_> ph8, I have a Radeon 9700 pro and just used the ATI installer (just look at the ATI website). I have my dual-screen setup working fine :)
[04:25] <jbpunk> i  do not know !
[04:25] <dvsoftware> jbpunk, cpu, mainboard, graphics, etc?
[04:26] <occy> lordmansfeld, got it!
[04:26] <occy> lordmansfeld, it's awfuly slooooow
[04:26] <occy> heh
[04:26] <occy> wonder if you can speed that up somehow
[04:26] <lordmansfeld> hehe yeah
[04:27] <Seveas> itz, that's not something that is easily possible...
[04:27] <lordmansfeld> well, it speeds up if you leave your finger on the key -.-
[04:27] <Seveas> (if at all)
[04:27] <_SWAT_> jbpunk, just to be clear. This is the Ubuntu channel, which is a linux (debian-based) distribution
[04:27] <windex> is there a localized ubuntu channel for chinese?
[04:27] <Seveas> windex, #ubuntu-zh
[04:27] <windex> oh.
[04:27] <windex> i think jbpunk was asking that before.
[04:27] <jbpunk> ............
[04:27] <adkinsj> anyone successful getting recent CVS wine build running with ie?
[04:28] <_SWAT_> jbpunk, just join the other chinese channel
[04:28] <adkinsj> I get problems when IE tries to setup "Cannot contact the internet..."
[04:28] <_SWAT_> don't use IE it's evil'
[04:28] <jbpunk> sorry  !!
[04:28] <adkinsj> hehe I agree
[04:28] <jbpunk> i  know !
[04:28] <adkinsj> but gotta test some pages with it
[04:29] <_SWAT_> just ask someone who uses windows ;)
[04:29] <itz> Seveas, can i fix it in another way? i got several users uploading to my ftp and its bugging me to type sudo all the time to just taking stuff from upload to the correct folder
[04:29] <_SWAT_> adkinsj, just make you're site using the standards (and not using browser specific code) and you'll be fine :D
[04:30] <Seveas> _SWAT_, not true
[04:30] <lordmansfeld> _SWAT_ that doesn't apply to IE ;)
[04:30] <Seveas> IE f*cks up
[04:30] <Seveas> MS still does not understand standards :)
[04:30] <_SWAT_> Seveas, lordmansfeld, I know. But that's the fault of M$
[04:31] <ph8> _SWAT_:   Just the 30 mb installer?
[04:31] <itz> Seveas, i got chown "john" /home/ftp but when users uploading i dont get rights over the stuff..  are u with me?
[04:31] <ph8> or the rpm?
[04:31] <Seveas> itz, some ftp servers provide post-upload scripts
[04:32] <Seveas> use these to correct that
[04:32] <itz> Seveas, ok... sometimes linux is just a pain in the butt :(
[04:32] <_SWAT_> ph8, just download the ATI linux drivers and the installer.sh script should be there somewhere. Just read the howto
[04:32] <ph8> i'm saying there's an RPM and 30 mb installer file
[04:32] <ph8> going with the installer one
[04:32] <_SWAT_> itz, linux is plain logical :P
[04:32] <Seveas> ph8, good
[04:33] <Seveas> ph8, don't take the rpm one :)
[04:33] <itz> _SWAT_,  well logical maybe but effective NO
[04:33] <Simonth> how do I run "ati-driver-installer-8.14.13.run" ?
[04:33] <Seveas> Simonth, don't
[04:33] <Seveas> use the ati drivers provided by Ubuntu
[04:34] <Simonth> Seveas, , how do I install the ati drivers from Ubuntu?
[04:34] <itz> Simonth, u dont. u install ms win xp and averything get much easier :o
[04:34] <_SWAT_> Seveas, what are you talking about? I'm always using the newest ATI drivers. And my dual-head setup works fine :)
[04:34] <Seveas> Simonth, sudo aptitude install linux-686 (or linux-k7 if you are using an AMD processor)
[04:35] <Seveas> itz, ....
[04:35] <Simonth> Seveas, Iam using kubuntu - amd64 version
[04:35] <itz> hehe
[04:35] <itz> sorri had to
[04:35] <itz> :P
[04:35] <_SWAT_> Seveas, we're talking about graphics drivers, not kernels :D
[04:35] <Seveas> _SWAT_, they come with the kernel packages...
[04:35] <Seveas> hmm, amd64
[04:35] <luminerd> Hello!  I am having a problem on a fresh install of Kubuntu.  It is with my PS/2 mouse.  I checked the modules, and sure enough, PSMOUSE is loaded.  I tryed cating and oding /dev/psaux...no reply.  Someone here yesterday told me to download GPM, but someone elsewhere told me that GPM wouldn't help me since I'm not getting a reply anyway.  Can someone help me out please?
[04:35] <Seveas> Simonth, what does 'uname -a' tell you?
[04:35] <Simonth> Seveas, Linux simon 2.6.10-5-amd64-generic #1 Fri Jun 24 16:54:18 UTC 2005 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:36] <Seveas> Simonth, ok
[04:36] <kemik> _SWAT_:  how do you install the latest ATI drivers? make from source?
[04:36] <_SWAT_> Simonth, I would suggest downloading/installing the newest graphics drivers from the ATI website using their installer. It has worked for me :) (btw, I'm using 32bit)
[04:36] <Seveas> Simonth, and what does 'slocate fglrx' say?
[04:36] <_SWAT_> kemik, I would suggest downloading/installing the newest graphics drivers from the ATI website using their installer. It has worked for me :) (btw, I'm using 32bit)
[04:36] <Seveas> _SWAT_, don't do that...
[04:36] <kemik> _SWAT_:  hmm ok i'll look into it
[04:36] <Seveas> that it works for you does not mean it is easy for us to support...
[04:36] <_SWAT_> kemik, it says so on the ATI website. They even have a nice GUI installer :)
[04:37] <Simonth> Seveas, /lib/modules/2.6.10-5-amd64-generic/kernel/drivers/video/fglrx.ko
[04:37] <Seveas> Simonth, nice
[04:37] <Seveas> you only have to edit xorg.conf then :)
[04:37] <Seveas> Simonth, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg.conf
[04:37] <kemik> Seveas:  ubuntu-team really should be better at supporting gfx-drivers as these are some of the "most important" ones
[04:37] <Pegasos989> Note to seld: NEVER again be near a computer if the screen says anything along the lines of "format" or "partition"... I just formated 49 gigs of good pr0n... But atleast got more than enough room now. THis thingie seems to be installed finally. \o/
[04:37] <_SWAT_> Seveas, I know. But installing the drivers isn't difficult. I just like using hte newest graphics drivers (because ATI really needs to work quite hard on those)
[04:37] <Seveas> answer the default answer to everything
[04:37] <Scholar_Gypsy> hi, i just installed the mac os theme on Gnome (on Ubuntu), but I am unable to make the taskbar like the one on the screen shot on http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=13548
[04:37] <Scholar_Gypsy> can any one help me with this one?
[04:38] <Seveas> and when it asks driver, answer: fglrx
[04:38] <Seveas> that's all :)
[04:38] <_SWAT_> Seveas, we were talking about you last night ;-)  (nothing big though)
[04:38] <Seveas> kemik, it's simply impossible to do that....
[04:38] <Seveas> _SWAT_, hmmm
[04:38] <Simonth> Iam running X now (with X-chat)...I do not know which graphics drivers I had, that was the reason to install the newest ATI drivers, and some of the OpenGL screensavers runs sloooow, so I think it was maybe the ATI drivers that I dont have, or they are too old..
[04:38] <Seveas> care to give a summary?
[04:38] <Simonth> Seveas, Iam running X now (with X-chat)...I do not know which graphics drivers I had, that was the reason to install the newest ATI drivers, and some of the OpenGL screensavers runs sloooow, so I think it was maybe the ATI drivers that I dont have, or they are too old..*
[04:38] <Seveas> Simonth, by default the ate drivers are installed but not enabled
[04:38] <rob_newbie> I am tring to install beep media player and apt-get is not finding it anyone know the proper file name or any suggestions? I have already apt-update and still not finding it.
[04:39] <kemik> Pegasos989:  i know that feeling... accidentally formatted the wrong partition once (was up laaaate and doing "important stuff" .. well ofcourse i messed up... got my lesson learned)
[04:39] <Simonth> Seveas, how do I enable them?
[04:39] <Seveas> that's ehat dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg is for
[04:39] <luminerd> I could start begging for help right now, but I don't suppose it would do what I'd want it to...which is display my sense of urgency.  I have 25 PC's that were supposed to be running this morning, but I have to get them running ASAP.  I know you guys do this for free and nobody requires you to do anything...but I would REALLY appreciate the help :)
[04:39] <Orbi-> do i need to install some special packages to get ssh connecition to my ubuntu computer from windows computer?
[04:39] <Pegasos989> :)
[04:39] <_SWAT_> kemik, the ATI drivers are crap. They need to work at it.
[04:39] <Orbi-> with program like putty
[04:39] <Seveas> Simonth, also: sudo aptitude install xorg-driver-fglrx
[04:39] <Simonth> Seveas, I have run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg many times now...are there any way I can see about the ATI drivers is enabled or not?..
[04:39] <Simonth> Seveas, , I try
[04:39] <kemik> _SWAT_:  well, at least TV-out works (a friend has nvidia and had alot of trouble gettint tv.out to work)
[04:39] <rob_newbie> Hello all
[04:39] <Seveas> luminerd, what's the problem
[04:39] <ph8> [Message]  Kernel Module : Trying to install a precompiled kernel module.
[04:39] <ph8> [Message]  Kernel Module : Precompiled kernel module version mismatched.
[04:39] <ph8> [Error]  Kernel Module : No kernel module build environment - please consult readme.
[04:40] <ph8> i can't find any readme
[04:40] <Seveas> ph8, DO NOT paste in here
[04:40] <luminerd> Seveas, shall I repeat it?
[04:40] <ph8> apologies
[04:40] <ruschi> hi folks, is there any standard or information about ho menues and the .desktop files are handles. for instance I go 3 global and 1 user location for xfig.desktop
[04:40] <traveller> i'm having trouble running apt-get update, it says failed to fetch a Packages.gz but when i click on the link itself, i can get to it
[04:40] <Seveas> luminerd, yes please :)
[04:40] <kemik> Simonth:  try glxgears and see if it's increased ;)
[04:40] <rob_newbie> Thank you all for all the help by the way
[04:40] <Simonth> Seveas, it install xorg-driver-fglrx now..after it had installed that, what should I do then?
[04:40] <Simonth> kemik, good idea.. ;)
[04:40] <Foaly> does so use licq ?
[04:40] <ruschi> I am pretty pissed off because anytime I install a program, tat is nonstandard I have to create user specific .desktop entries by using kmenuedit
[04:41] <Seveas> Simonth, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again
[04:41] <concept10_> ph8, what are you tring to install
[04:41] <Seveas> ruschi, relax, that's being fixed...
[04:41] <Simonth> Seveas, okay but maybe I lost my screen settings then, last time I used dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it all the times forgot my 1024x768@85hz setting so I configured the xorg.conf file by my self, but I cant remember how now.. ;) But I hope it works...
[04:41] <sls> how do you enable acpi "hiberate" in ubuntu
[04:41] <ruschi> @Seveas hopefully
[04:41] <sls> ?
[04:41] <luminerd> Hello!  I am having a problem on a fresh install of Kubuntu.  It is with my PS/2 mouse.  I checked the modules, and sure enough, PSMOUSE is loaded.  I tryed cating and oding /dev/psaux...no reply.  Someone here yesterday told me to download GPM, but someone elsewhere told me that GPM wouldn't help me since I'm not getting a reply anyway.  Can someone help me out please?
[04:42] <Seveas> Simonth, if you know how to edit xorg.conf: do that now too
[04:42] <sls> it works out of the box in kubuntu
[04:42] <Seveas> search for driver   "ati"
[04:42] <_SWAT_> Seveas, are you a Ubuntu-developer or something? You are often online here and helping out a lot of people. On the same note: great job, keep it up :-)
[04:42] <Seveas> and replace that with driver      "fglrx"
[04:42] <Pegasos989> Ooh. I <3 this update system! No long trips to windosupdate and downloading 80 megs service packs <3<3<3
[04:42] <Simonth> Seveas, okay - 2 seconds..I take a backup of the file first..
[04:42] <Seveas> Simonth, good attitude :)
[04:43] <_SWAT_> Pegasos989, and tell all of your friend about Ubuntu. Make them use it :)
[04:43] <Seveas> luminerd, hmm....
[04:43] <Seveas> what kind of mouse?
[04:43] <Seveas> (brand, model)
[04:43] <itz> Seveas, maybe i got a "solution" to it... i make a "shortcut" to a little script lile sudo chown -R "john" /home/ftp/Upload   What do u think?
[04:43] <sls> I tried the fglrx driver on a DELL latitude c600 -- that particular ati card is not supported
[04:44] <Seveas> itz, that's the easiest solution
[04:44] <Simonth> Seveas,  it is very stupid not to take backups :) Believe me! I have experience..I lost my hole damn homepage cause of my stupidity ;)
[04:44] <luminerd> Seveas, errr...sysgration SAGM002
[04:44] <itz> Seveas, gr8 thx
[04:44] <Seveas> Simonth, hehe
[04:44] <Seveas> I know the experience :)
[04:44] <luminerd> Seveas, but the mouse works fine on my windoze box :/
[04:44] <Simonth> :)
[04:44] <ph8> concept10_: The ATI drivers from the website - i've triedn numerous readmes for using the Ubunutu built in and it just doesn't work
[04:45] <Kyral> Everything works on a Windows Box, thats why its boring
[04:45] <ph8> I have a fairly new laptop with an M200 gfx card
[04:45] <ph8> well a brand new laptop
[04:45] <Pegasos989> Hmm. This might actually be something that I could get atleast one of my friends to try... No any of those "Choose wich ones of these 9999999 debian packages you want t instal" etc. crap. Sure they are good if you reallly like customizing and know what you are doing, but...
[04:45] <Pegasos989> Hmm... Updating doesn't require me to boot?
[04:45] <Simonth> Kyral, everything?..hmm.. I dont think ;)
[04:45] <_SWAT_> Simonth, backups are good (I'm also used to making them. Especially of /boot/grub/menu.lst :P
[04:45] <ph8> whenever i change the driver to fglrx in xorg.conf for the Ubuntu setup i get a black screen on X server restart, so i was trying the 'official' ATI ones
[04:45] <Kyral> Simonth, it was a joke :P
[04:46] <ph8> but i get those errors, if someone wouldn't mind lending a hand
[04:46] <kemik> Seveas:  need to restart X for xorg.conf to be "reloaded" ?
[04:46] <Seveas> kemik, yup
[04:46] <Simonth> _SWAT_, I never touch that file, it is too dangerous(cant spell either) :P
[04:46] <ruschi> ok, but back to the menuproblem, where do I put the .desktop entries so they will be found by kappfinder and/or appear automatically in the menues both for gnome and KDE (mainly kde)
[04:46] <Simonth> Kyral, oh..sure :P
[04:46] <windex> Kyral, i wasn't aware microsoft was paying people to sit in #ubuntu :D
[04:47] <ruschi> strangely some users don't even have the "debian" meu anymore
[04:47] <ph8> please?
[04:47] <Pegasos989> I tried fedora coree 1 and debian 3.0 before but got tired of trying to configure my internet (unlike this, they didn't recognize my networks card) and there was this one big diffrence. What about root account? I made one when installing and logged in, so am I logged in as a root? :S
[04:47] <ph8> I donate regularly and everything :)
[04:47] <Seveas> ruschi, /usr/share/applications
[04:47] <ruschi> thanks
[04:47] <_SWAT_> Pegasos989, rebooting isn't that popular with linux :) . My PC has an uptime of 6 days. I turned it off because of lighting. Even when installing graphics drivers you only need to reboot the xserver, so even that doesn't need a reboot :D
[04:48] <Seveas> luminerd, hmm, all I can find about sysgration is 3-button serial mice...
[04:48] <ruschi> do I have to edit any xml files?
[04:48] <Seveas> ruschi, try smeg for easy menu editing...
[04:48] <Seveas> works for KDE too, despite its name
[04:48] <luminerd> Seveas, this is 3-button...aren't most all mice now?
[04:48] <ruschi> I'' give it a try
[04:48] <Seveas> luminerd, is it serial-with-ps2-adaptor?
[04:48] <ph8> _SWAT_: Did you get this error?
[04:49] <luminerd> Seveas, umm...no...no adaptor
[04:49] <ruschi> there is no "smeg" on my system nor in apt-get
[04:50] <lordmansfeld> rushi: have you activated universe and multiverse repositories?
[04:50] <lordmansfeld> *ruschi :)
[04:51] <Seveas> !smeg
[04:51] <ubotu> I heard smeg is a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[04:51] <Seveas> ^-- ruschi
[04:51] <selinium> any vim users about?
[04:51] <lordmansfeld> <--
[04:51] <st_lim> hi,
[04:51] <st_lim> how do I install a udeb file?
[04:52] <lordmansfeld> yes selinium ^^
[04:52] <st_lim> and how do I have udeb files in aptitude??
[04:52] <scapor> are there any good drivers available for the intel grafics chips in laptops ? with dri etc ?
[04:52] <Seveas> with extensive use of :sp that means about 20 files :)
[04:52] <Seveas> st_lim, udpkg -i
[04:52] <Seveas> what are you trying to install? manually installing udebs can be tricky...
[04:52] <selinium> lordmansfeld: Cool I am trying to fire up the tutorial on vim. how do you do it?
[04:53] <Seveas> vimtutor
[04:53] <st_lim> udpkg?
[04:53] <lordmansfeld> vimtutor from bash?
[04:53] <ruschi> @lordmansfeld yes I have them all activated
[04:53] <st_lim> is there an apt tool for that?
[04:53] <selinium> CHeers guys!
[04:53] <ruschi> but still no smeg
[04:53] <Seveas> ruschi, it's not in the standard repositories
[04:53] <Seveas> !smeg
[04:53] <ubotu> smeg is probably a Simple Menu Editor for GNOME. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/smeg/ or from backports.
[04:53] <lordmansfeld> ruschi: i think Seveas has answered your question :)
[04:53] <Seveas> look at that url
[04:53] <ruschi> thanks
[04:53] <ph8> Seveas: Any chance of you helping me out?
[04:53] <ph8> :/
[04:54] <Seveas> what are you installing ph8?
[04:54] <tikka> bye ubuntu, for i am ditching you for my other lover. gentoo
[04:54] <luminerd> how do I get out of the X config screen in console?
[04:54] <ph8> Seveas: The ATI Drivers from their website
[04:54] <Seveas> ph8, why?
[04:54] <factor> Control C it luminerd?
[04:54] <ph8> Explained above that i just can't get the Ubuntu bundled working
[04:54] <Seveas> Youhmm
[04:54] <luminerd> factor, not working :/
[04:55] <ph8> I've followed all the guides but whenevr i set driver "fglrx" it just kills my X display
[04:55] <Seveas> ph8, and why do you think these will work..?
[04:55] <factor> Hm
[04:55] <ph8> Was trying everything?
[04:55] <Seveas> ph8, you need to change a few other bitx
[04:55] <Seveas> most notably the mosules section
[04:55] <ph8> Any advice is appreciated
[04:55] <ph8> yup gotthat
[04:55] <factor> luminerd> What's the program name?
[04:55] <ph8> was following this guide -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557
[04:55] <Seveas> ph8, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/925
[04:56] <Seveas> that's my *working* xorg.conf
[04:56] <Seveas> on a laptop with radeon mobility
[04:56] <Seveas> and don't follow forum guides, use the wiki :)
[04:56] <Pegasos989> They say that to add mp3support you need to type "apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad" to the root terminal but it isn't working. "E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad"
[04:57] <luminerd> factor, err, umm...not sure
[04:57] <lordmansfeld> try without the version number maybe
[04:57] <luminerd> factor, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:57] <ph8> oo
[04:57] <ph8> that looks useful
[04:57] <ph8> will try that
[04:57] <ph8> word in a second or so
[04:57] <lordmansfeld> (easiest is to look it up in Synaptic, Pegasos989)
[04:57] <Seveas> Pegasos989, enable the universe repository
[04:57] <Seveas> Pegasos989: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[04:57] <Seveas> Pegasos989: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[04:58] <Pegasos989> Thx
[04:58] <luminerd> factor, nvm, I'll just reboot
[04:58] <luminerd> lol
[04:58] <ruschi> smeg doesn't install it depends on python-xdg >= 0.14 ; I got python-xdg 0.9-1  --- The tarball doesn't install because it can't find /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile
[04:58] <factor> Lol luminerd
[04:59] <factor> If all else fails, reboot!
[04:59] <dvsoftware> yeaahh
[04:59] <Seveas> ruschi, use the installeer script
[04:59] <factor> Yo protoman
[04:59] <dvsoftware> nvidia driver works
[04:59] <luminerd> factor, well, it's what the M$ support team has been paid to tell people for years...it must be worth something!
[04:59] <ph8> what's v4l/xtt Seveas ?
[04:59] <factor> Haha.  I wish I got paid every time I helped someone with a computer.
[05:00] <factor> Where help == restart :-P
[05:00] <ruschi> yes this is what I used
[05:00] <luminerd> lol
[05:00] <ruschi> and it complains about a missing makefile somewhere
[05:00] <ruschi> ./setup.py install --prefix=/usr/local/
[05:00] <ruschi> unable to open /usr/lib/python2.4/config/Makefile (No such file or directory)
[05:01] <Seveas> ruschi, you uset the installscript from realistanew.com?
[05:01] <Seveas> http://dev.realistanew.com/smeg/installsmeg
[05:01] <incomplete> Hi, is there any documentation about how to make an hoary package?
[05:01] <ruschi> no, sorry...........
[05:01] <Seveas> try that :)
[05:02] <mpm1> anyone recommend a messenger (not, amsn/gaim).
[05:02] <Protoman8> <.<
[05:02] <factor> Haha
[05:02] <Seveas> bitlbee+xchat
[05:02] <factor> Your christening of IRC is <.< :-P
[05:02] <dvsoftware> ehhhh... now cedega
[05:02] <scapor> mpm1: gossip
[05:02] <Protoman8> thats right
[05:02] <Protoman8> cuz it took liek 20mins of my life to get here
[05:02] <mpmc> does gossip support msn?
[05:02] <factor> Haha
[05:03] <Protoman8> and part of your
[05:03] <Protoman8> *yours
[05:03] <lordmansfeld> mpmc, you could try Mercury for a MSN clone
[05:03] <windex> Protoman8, IP over avian carrier?
[05:03] <incomplete> mpm1, did you try BitlBee
[05:03] <ph8> Seveas:  About to give it a go
[05:03] <factor> LOL windex
[05:03] <Seveas> ph8, good luck!
[05:03] <incomplete> What was the ubuntu packaging-centric IRC channel?
[05:03] <lordmansfeld> mpmc, Mercury supports quite a few of the messenger Plus bells and whistles (colours and stuff) but it's a bit slow
[05:04] <jdahm> hey I cannot get my cd to eject, uts not mounted and it still wont eject
[05:04] <jdahm> any ideas?
[05:04] <rob_newbie> Perhaps you should add the directory containing `libglade-2.0.pc'
[05:04] <rob_newbie> to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
[05:04] <rob_newbie> No package 'libglade-2.0' found
[05:04] <rob_newbie> configure: error: Cannot find libglade
[05:04] <Seveas> incomplete, #ubuntu-motu perhaps
[05:04] <lucasr> where can i get kernel-headers-2.6.10-5-amd64-generic?
[05:04] <Seveas> rob_newbie, NEVER paste in here
[05:04] <Seveas> rob_newbie, read the topic...
[05:04] <lucasr> I can find it...
[05:04] <Seveas> lucasr, linux-headers.....
[05:04] <rob_newbie> Oh sorry
[05:05] <windex> jdahm, places -> computer -> (right click, ) Eject dosen't work for you?
[05:05] <Seveas> lucasr, the easy way: sudo aptitude install linux-amd64-generic
[05:05] <Seveas> rob_newbie, what are you trying to install?
[05:05] <lucasr> Seveas, ah, ok, i thought it was like debian...
[05:05] <jdahm> windex: nope I get 'eject: unable to eject, last error: Invalid argument'
[05:05] <rob_newbie> Seveas; Beep media player
[05:06] <jdahm> windex: been trying that
[05:06] <Seveas> rob_newbie, that's in the repositories!!
[05:06] <Seveas> don't install it from source...
[05:06] <jdahm> hey is americas army in the repository?
[05:06] <rob_newbie> Seveas: I have not found it
[05:06] <windex> jdahm, sometimes cdrom drives lock up in a way that requires a power off to fix. at least, all my first-generation dvd-rw's do.
[05:06] <Seveas> rob_newbie, then enable universe
[05:07] <jdahm> windex: ah mines a cdrw
[05:07] <Mackx> Hello all
[05:07] <rob_newbie> Seveas: How do I do that?
[05:07] <simplydazed> Hi, i just did a default installation of Hoary. Was just curious to find out why does my system boot into runlevel 5 when it's explicity stated to boot into level 2? Thanks
[05:07] <windex> jdahm, in that case, that may be your problem. :) my usual cd burning drive is now a usb disk so i can toggle it on and off when it locks up.
[05:07] <Seveas> rob_newbie: Adding Repositories: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:07] <Seveas> rob_newbie: For a ready-to-use sources.list with all official Ubuntu repositories, go to paste.ubuntulinux.nl/38
[05:07] <jdahm> hey is there a way online to view the repository because its hard to view all those packages in synaptics?
[05:08] <Seveas> simplydazed, then you must have changed something
[05:08] <jdahm> windex: ah cool
[05:08] <icewt> jdahm, packages.ubuntu.com
[05:08] <InquiringMind> does anybody know if linux will ever take advantage of the idea of universal binaries like apple just did?
[05:08] <ph8> Seveas: X came back but my original problem remains
[05:08] <ph8> I'm trying to use the solar winds screensaver
[05:08] <ph8> and the preview looks fantastic but full screen is laggy (with a capital L)
[05:08] <mpmc> Please recommend an MSN/IRC client in one...
[05:08] <Seveas> ph8, what is your glxgears score?
[05:08] <jdahm> icewt: ah cool
[05:08] <Bubbling_Zombie> mpmc : gaim
[05:08] <windex> InquiringMind, oddly, it wouldn't be very hard to support this similar to what apple does. it just requires a launcher directory format to be followed by a window manager.
[05:09] <simplydazed> Seveas: Default installation. In inittab it's default level is 2, but it boots to 5.
[05:09] <Seveas> InquiringMind, 'Universal Binaries'?
[05:09] <mpmc> not gaim/amsn
[05:09] <ph8> it's a graphic with running gears
[05:09] <rob_newbie> Seveas: Ok Thank You
[05:09] <ph8> how do i find the score?
[05:09] <icewt> mpmc, bitlbee
[05:09] <verona> HOLA
[05:09] <darkwise> Is epic or BitchX in those packages?
[05:09] <Seveas> simplydazed, how did you find out it boots to 5?
[05:09] <_SWAT_> ph8, sorry, I was out for a moment
[05:09] <_SWAT_> fixing some door
[05:09] <_SWAT_> s
[05:09] <ph8> nps swat thanks for getting back
[05:09] <tim> ph8, just type glxgears in a terminal
[05:09] <ph8> i did
[05:09] <mpmc> Icewt: I dunno how to config that
[05:09] <windex> Seveas, apple ships these things they call universal binaries that cross PPC and i386. they're basically a normal OS X launcher directory with 2 binary directories, one for each platform.
[05:09] <selinium> lordmansfeld Seveas: cheers for the vim thing. I am working on a computer 3 miles away. Woo hoo!
[05:09] <ph8> and it brings up the graphic of three turning wheels
[05:09] <simplydazed> Seveas: Well, does Ubuntu initiate xinit for 2?
[05:09] <ph8> oh wait
[05:09] <ph8> i see :p
[05:10] <Seveas> windex, ah, bloat :)
[05:10] <ph8> averaging about 800FPS
[05:10] <_SWAT_> ph8, when you used the ATI installer you need to run.... eehmm...... fglrx-config or something. It's an ATI TUI tool to config the xorg.conf
[05:10] <icewt> mpmc, read the docs then :)
[05:10] <Seveas> simplydazed, yep
[05:10] <InquiringMind> seveas:  universal binaries allow a program to work on virtually any platform
[05:10] <windex> Seveas, yep. but, it'll help make things easier for mac users, and that's what apple does.
[05:10] <Seveas> simplydazed, in a terminal type: runlevel
[05:10] <InquiringMind> as if it were pure binary. or w/e
[05:10] <simplydazed> Seveas: well, thats solves it. Thanks :)
[05:10] <ph8> _SWAT_:  Seveas seems to have helped me get it working without the ati drivers from the site
[05:10] <Seveas> windex, Ubuntu ships PPC and i386 cd's
[05:10] <ph8> by helped i mean virtuaqlly done it all for me
[05:10] <_SWAT_> ph8, hehehe. Alright then. :D
[05:10] <ph8> which i have no complaints about :)
[05:10] <Seveas> and on ppc you automagically install ppc binaries
[05:10] <Seveas> even simpler :)
[05:10] <InquiringMind> does anybody know if i can edit SWF files directly under linux?
[05:10] <windex> InquiringMind, that is not what apple is doing with it's 'universal binary'. your application in what you just wrote there is closer to how java or .net works.
[05:11] <Seveas> and less diskspace/bandwith needed
[05:11] <ph8> So yes Seveas : 800FPS
[05:11] <craig> hey
[05:11] <Seveas> InquiringMind, Ubuntu ships PPC and i386 cd's
[05:11] <ph8> 4000 frames/5 secs
[05:11] <InquiringMind> winex, sorry - im not really up on it
[05:11] <Seveas> sorry windex ;)
[05:11] <darkwise> Ok I found BitchX, I am kind of a newb, do I need to install the ssl support for it also, or just the package itself.
[05:11] <Sputn1k> after nvidia driver installiation everything works find, but after pc reboot x's don't work and i have to change driver to nv, where is the probem?
[05:12] <Seveas> darkwise, sudo aptitude install bitchx
[05:12] <windex> Seveas, sokay, i ignore people directing messages to me very effectivley. it's a result of being a BOFH at my last job for so long.
[05:12] <Seveas> and done :)
[05:12] <Seveas> windex, hehe :)
[05:12] <simplydazed> Seveas: i'm comming from a RH background. Got a small question. Any tui way to assign daemons status per runlevel? Something like chkconfig?
[05:12] <InquiringMind> oh.....can i use my iriver in linx?
[05:12] <Pegasos989> I just don't understand that adding universe thignie. " https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto " I gwet to that last step "Once the package list has been updated, packages from universe can be installed" but umm... There is a lot of pakages. Am I meant to install them all? Like twenty or so. And none of them clearly labels  "universe" or anything
[05:12] <InquiringMind> linux*?
[05:12] <Seveas> simplydazed, update-rc.d
[05:12] <kawin> test
[05:12] <simplydazed> Seveas: thanks again
[05:13] <Seveas> if by tui you mean gui: for breezy there will be a gui
[05:13] <ph8> any thoughts on the glx/screensaver results Seveas ?
[05:13] <darkwise> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "BitchX"
[05:13] <darkwise> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[05:13] <Seveas> ph8, nope
[05:13] <Seveas> darkwise, bitchx
[05:13] <darkwise> did that also
[05:13] <simplydazed> Seveas: text-user-interface
[05:13] <darkwise> :P
[05:13] <windex> Seveas, what's really funny is that i come in here in the morning to wake up, and i come in here in the evening because the _worst_ linux users are still smarter than most of the people i work with :D
[05:13] <ph8> fglrxinfo still says Mesa, don't know if that's meant to be like that Seveas ?
[05:13] <Seveas> darkwise, enable universe then...
[05:13] <LBthc> anyone wants to help a Ubuntu newbie?
[05:14] <ph8> ask away LBthc
[05:14] <Seveas> ph8, that's odd
[05:14] <ph8> i'll try a reboot
[05:14] <Seveas> have you commented out the Load   "glcore" in xorg.conf?
[05:14] <ph8> yes
[05:14] <Pegasos989> windex, I can prove thant wrong by just... u know... existing
[05:14] <ph8> like in yours
[05:14] <_SWAT_> ph8, that is strange
[05:14] <Seveas> ph8, http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/926
[05:14] <craig> Have a problem wid disk drive says it is mounted sudo fdisk -l but not in cfdisk does someone know why this is iam trying 2 access it but cant thanks in advance fro any help
[05:14] <Seveas> that's my fglrxinfo
[05:14] <Seveas> try rebooting indeed
[05:14] <windex> Pegasos989, bzzt. i deal with people who occasionaly do not understand why the building needs power for their computer to work.
[05:14] <Pegasos989> oh
[05:14] <_SWAT_> Seveas, rebooting.... sounds scary :D
[05:14] <LBthc> ok. i have a HD of 200gb (with important stuff inside) formated in NTFS. not mounted. how can i get everything working so that i can use and manipulate files from there? i dont need windows systems anymore.
[05:15] <Pegasos989> I guess I was wrong
[05:15] <mindmedic> LBthc, just ask
[05:15] <Seveas> _SWAT_, X is a persistent bitch ;)
[05:15] <Fitzsimmons> what is .nl the TLD for?
[05:15] <windex> netherlands
[05:15] <Fitzsimmons> thanks
[05:15] <jdahm> is HAL a internet related thing on gnome?
[05:15] <Seveas> Fitzsimmons, why do you want to know? :)
[05:15] <darkwise> .nl isn't neverland?
[05:15] <Pegasos989> windex, where do you exactly work then?
[05:15] <_SWAT_> Seveas, I always do "alt+F1"... then kill gdm and xorg-common.... and then restart it :D
[05:15] <ph8> ok thans brb
[05:15] <Seveas> darkwise, lol :)
[05:15] <Fitzsimmons> Seveas: curious
[05:15] <windex> Pegasos989, i own my own consulting shop. i deal with a wide range of customers.
[05:15] <ruschi> CONCLUSION: They way menues and Menue entries are handled under various Desktop definitely need a review - freedesktop.org is providing standards and they are implemented as it seem but all other standards are implemented as well - thats the point....
[05:15] <Pegasos989> k
[05:16] <darkwise> Neverland Ranch.
[05:16] <InquiringMind> does anybody know how i can transfer files in a GUI fashion from my iriver to my ubuntu box? im using the ifp-895
[05:16] <darkwise> You been there Seveas?
[05:16] <darkwise> :P
[05:16] <selinium> InquiringMind: there are a few apps around. ifp-line is a command line tool iripdb - Generates the DB files for the iRiver iHP-1xx  pmp-common - hotplug scripts for portable music players     also there is libiriverdb    take a look
[05:16] <Seveas> ruschi, correct
[05:16] <Seveas> darkwise, nope ;)
[05:16] <incomplete> I'll ask here too: is it possible to compile the libcairo breezy package in hoary?  i.e. adjusting the dependicies.
[05:16] <Seveas> incomplete, sure
[05:17] <Seveas> apt-get source it, change the deps and compile
[05:17] <InquiringMind> thanks selinium
[05:17] <_SWAT_> non-linux question. Does anyone know a good site for nice wallpapers and a nice site for pimped linux desktops? I need some inspiration :D
[05:17] <InquiringMind> art.gnome.org swat
[05:17] <Seveas> no guarantees on whether it will work though
[05:17] <InquiringMind> freshmeat.net also works, SWAT
[05:17] <selinium> InquiringMind: np
[05:17] <Earered> jdahm, in the linux world HAL stands for HArdware Abstraction Layer
[05:17] <darkwise> So what is this Universe thing seveas? Just curious, like to know what it is before I enable it.
[05:17] <jdahm> Earered: I just saw that and nice joke :P
[05:17] <incomplete> Seveas, I got the .orig.tar.gz, .dsc and .diff.gz manually, could you tell me how to continue?  I'm not fond on .deb creation and so.
[05:17] <_SWAT_> thnx InquiringMind :)
[05:17] <Seveas> darkwise, it contains all packages maintained by the community :)
[05:18] <darkwise> So there is no security risk involved?
[05:18] <Despeeh> THE community :)
[05:18] <Pegasos989> I hope I am not doing anything bad when I am marking EVERYTHING in synaptic to be installed.   Thank you.
[05:18] <darkwise> cuz x-chat is just nasty looking.
[05:18] <Pegasos989> I WANT TO INSTALL STUFFFFFFFFFFffffffffffffff
[05:19] <Seveas> Pegasos989, ....
[05:19] <Pegasos989> Krhm
[05:19] <Pegasos989> Nevermind
[05:19] <simplydazed> Seveas: Can you display the status of a daemon with update-rc.d ?
[05:19] <Pegasos989> :S
[05:19] <Seveas> simplydazed, no
[05:19] <craig> Can someone help me pls i just need to sort the problem out with me drive i cant access it i have tryed a few different ways but none of them seem to work
[05:19] <selinium> What is the command line to see if something is installed?
[05:19] <Seveas> craig, what kind of drive?
[05:19] <ph8> Seveas: Still :/
[05:19] <Seveas> selinium, dpkg -l | less
[05:20] <craig> 20 gig fat32 drive
[05:20] <InquiringMind> but there is no gui utility for an iriver like gtkpod?
[05:20] <Seveas> craig: Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/winmac_fstab to make your windows and mac partions mount automatically
[05:20] <selinium> Seveas: And if i was looking for a particular app?
[05:20] <craig> thanks heaps mate:)
[05:20] <Seveas> selinium, dpkg -l understands wildcards
[05:20] <selinium> Seveas: cheers
[05:20] <Seveas> dpkg -l '*apache*'
[05:21] <Seveas> that shows all apache-related stuff
[05:21] <selinium> Seveas: Thanks :)
[05:21] <jdahm> when I was reading the LAMP server wiki I was told to install php4-mysql but they dont have that pkg any longer it looks loke :(
[05:21] <jdahm> *like
[05:23] <zever> !info php4-mysql
[05:23] <ubotu> php4-mysql: (MySQL module for php4), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 4:4.3.10-10ubuntu3 (hoary), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 116 kB
[05:23] <zAo^> who can help me with imwheel?
[05:23] <izmaelis> can iconvert ntfs->fat32 with gparted?
[05:24] <jdahm> zever: but when I type in sudo install php4-mysql it says it doesnt exist
[05:24] <InquiringMind> Seveas, do you know how I can get a GUI utility to edit files in my iriver?
[05:24] <jdahm> *sudo apt-get install
[05:24] <zever> jdahm, have you enabled universe
[05:24] <jdahm> zever: nope
[05:24] <zever> !repos
[05:24] <ubotu> [repos]  at http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[05:24] <zever> take a look there
[05:25] <sebu> how do I list unmounted devices?
[05:25] <traveller> i have problems fetching the Packages.gz for hoary universe, it says not in gzip format
[05:25] <craig> seveas thanks heaps work no problems
[05:25] <tom_> !apache
[05:25] <ubotu> hmm... apache is Apache/PHP http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/PHPDevelopmentHowTo/ http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[05:26] <simplydazed> Iptables not in /etc/init.d ?
[05:27] <Thee> how do I list unmounted devices?
[05:27] <majic> simplydazed: I created my own iptables rules script that I put in init.d
[05:28] <luminerd> does ubuntu come with wtf?
[05:28] <izmaelis> Thee, i think cfdisk
[05:28] <Thee> izmaelis: more precise, please. Ubuntu noob at work :)
[05:28] <simplydazed> majic: ok. Although iptables-save should save the rules and load @ boot time, ritE?
[05:29] <izmaelis> Thee, try #sudo cfdisk
[05:29] <Pegasos989> Anyways. So I can't install all packages but I do need to install some to get the universe respository or whatever? I mean...  I went thro https://wiki.ubuntu.com//AddingRepositoriesHowto and to the step where the guide says "Once the package list has been updated, packages from universe can be installed."  I have a Palm OS pda. I sync with my ubuntu pc with the J-pilot program. BUt now I want to transfer my information (addresses, calendar info, to-do list, etc) to my pocketPC (HP Jornada 540 series). what must i do?
[05:34] <Choubaka> consider removing the decorations :P
[05:34] <Pegasos989> mindmedic, yeah... But I have no idea wich ones I need. If I want this to be able to play mp3 I must put some command to root terminal and that requires universe reprository. :S
[05:35] <Choubaka> Huokaus: Anyway, if you're using ubuntu's precompiled kernel  then you should be able to use aptitude or synaptic to download a precompiled driver.
[05:35] <mindmedic> Pegasos989, well, now that you have added the universe repository these commands will succeed. for example you could apt-get gstreamer0.8-mad to enable mp3 playback in rhythmbox
[05:36] <piksi> arghghgh
[05:36] <bigfoot1> does anybody here not use a pda? please help if you do. thank you.
[05:36] <piksi> i've tried EVERYTHING with this strange sata ide dvd-r drive and ubuntu WONT recognize it!!!
[05:37] <piksi> i have nec dvd-r drive which claims (in xp) to be a generic scsi device
[05:37] <piksi> can it be sata?
[05:37] <Choubaka> I have no idea.
[05:37] <Choubaka> :P
[05:37] <shane> hey guys, my xmms freezes when i try to play my mp3s and i cant play them on any other program either also when i go to a site like purevolume or launch when i try to play the mp3s there it also does not work.....i get sound when i go to "sound" and press play for a game sound but iam not sure if my sound card is installed or not.......any ideas?
[05:37] <ruumis> :P
[05:37] <ruumis> not my own nick, but anyway
[05:37] <Despeeh> are you using alsa or something else?
[05:38] <Pegasos989> mindmedic, "E: Couldn't find package gstreamer0.8-mad" still. Does that mean that I did some mistake while following the instruction or sumthing?
[05:38] <Choubaka> ruumis: Well, at least you're now tabcompleteable.
[05:38] <shane> piksi, i have that same dvd drive and also had that same problem
[05:38] <zAo^> how can I make IMWheel so, that clicking the scroll wheel goes back???
[05:38] <Seveas> shane: To make xmms or beep-media-player actually play things, change the audio output plugin to eSound
[05:39] <bigfoot1> does anybody here use a windows os PDA/handheld computer?
[05:39] <Despeeh> or alsa ;)
[05:39] <ruumis> Choubaka Huokaus: Anyway, if you're using ubuntu's precompiled kernel  then you should be able to use aptitude or synaptic to download a precompiled driver.
[05:39] <Despeeh> killall esd   allways :)
[05:39] <ruumis> hmm
[05:39] <piksi> shane: i have amilo pro v8010 with nec dvd and it just won't recognize it, i tried loading some sata drivers but didn't help
[05:39] <Seveas> Despeeh, ....
[05:39] <luminerd> Hey guys, I'm desperate for some help at this point.  My problem is that my PS/2 mouse doesn't work.  I am sure it's plugged in and in the right slot, and catting it won't get a response.  I tried editing my xorg.conf, but nothing works...any ideas?
[05:39] <shane> Seveas, do i do that on xmms?
[05:39] <ruumis> how does that work without internet? :P
[05:39] <Seveas> shane, yes
[05:39] <Despeeh> Seveas im not going to argue with you, because Im gonna loose :)
[05:40] <ruumis> damn
[05:40] <hmrocha> hello
[05:40] <hmrocha> i want gaim to use the spell checker of my language
[05:40] <piksi> shane: but you managed to install with that dvd drive?
[05:40] <shane> Seveas, would you happen to know why it sets everything to mute as defalt?
[05:40] <hmrocha> how can i change the locale language of ubuntu?
[05:41] <hmrocha> i still want to have all programs in english, but changing locale to my language
[05:41] <hmrocha> is it possible?
[05:41] <shane> piksi, iam sorry i have a different one by nec and it didnt regognize it
[05:41] <Seveas> shane, no idea
[05:41] <Seveas> hmrocha, sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[05:41] <shane> piksi,  all i did to fix the problrem was reinstalling windows
[05:41] <Seveas> hmrocha, and the other part (all english, but own locale) requires tweaking of /etc/environment
[05:41] <luminerd> Has anyone here ever had a problem with a mouse not working like this?
[05:41] <shane> piksi,  if you feel like going through the hasle
[05:42] <luminerd> It is very strange I think.....
[05:42] <mindmedic> Pegasos, if you have enabled universe, it should be there. maybe you didn't add it correctly.
[05:42] <Seveas> dennis@mirage ~ $ cat /etc/environment
[05:42] <Seveas> LANG=nl_NL.UTF-8
[05:42] <Seveas> LC_MESSAGES=en_US.UTF-8
[05:42] <Seveas> hmrocha, that example should help you :)
[05:42] <Pegasos989> k
[05:42] <bigfoot1> when i'm using gimp, how do i get the brushes window (the vertically long window) from closing when I move the focus on the canvas/image?
[05:42] <hmrocha> Seveas, i should do LANG=pt_PT.UTF-8 then
[05:42] <hmrocha> i'll try
[05:42] <bigfoot1> closing-->minimizing.
[05:42] <luminerd> Hey guys, I'm desperate for some help at this point.  My problem is that my PS/2 mouse doesn't work.  I am sure it's plugged in and in the right slot, and catting it won't get a response.  I tried editing my xorg.conf, but nothing works...any ideas?  Has anyone here ever had a problem with a mouse not working like this?  It is very strange I think.....
[05:43] <hmrocha> i'll see if gaim switches the spell checker to portuguese
[05:43] <ph8> find anything weird, zany, and/or easily fixable Seveas ?
[05:43] <mpmc> :)
[05:45] <neofilo> hola alguien me puede ayudar
[05:45] <Pegasos989> AH! Now I see what I did wrong. I still claim that the worst linux users can be worse than the ones that any of you do work with! I read the instructions, in wich it CLEARLY tells you to scroll down, check the checkbox and press ok. Well, I scrolled down and pressed ok. Way to go, me!
[05:45] <luminerd> Please, anyone here who can help me?
[05:46] <ph8> dataja
[05:46] <ph8> don't ask to ask just ask :)
[05:46] <ph8> Seveaz:   find anything weird, zany, and/or easily fixable Seveas ?
[05:47] <Nightcr8wl3r> greetigs
[05:47] <Nightcr8wl3r> greetings
[05:47] <zanathel> Hi
[05:47] <Nightcr8wl3r> have a problem with wnck-applet
[05:47] <Nightcr8wl3r> when I run it I now get this error
[05:48] <Nightcr8wl3r> ailed: Failed: Schema `/schemas/apps/workspace_switcher_applet/prefs/display_all_workspaces' specified for `/apps/panel/applets/applet_17/prefs/display_all_workspaces' stores a non-schema value
[05:48] <Nightcr8wl3r> Failed: Failed: Schema `/schemas/apps/workspace_switcher_applet/prefs/num_rows' specified for `/apps/panel/applets/applet_17/prefs/num_rows' stores a non-schema value
[05:48] <Seveas> grmbl
[05:48] <Nightcr8wl3r> not sure why
[05:48] <Seveas> freenode does not like me
[05:48] <Seveas> ph8, no nothing suspicious...
[05:48] <zanathel> Hi, I've made some configuration mistakes with the "gedit" startup. I've set the startarguments to open a document that doesn't exist AND the document I request to open. Is it possible to change the arguments somewhere?
[05:48] <Nightcr8wl3r> any ideas
[05:48] <bigfoot1> hello, all, i've been playing around with gTweakUi- menus and i got this result:http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot21lp.png. How do i put back that menu to where it used to be?
[05:48] <mpmc> lol
[05:48] <piksi> it is ridiculously lame that the debian install won't recognize my sata hdd and ubuntu won't recognize my nec dvd-r (scsi???)
[05:49] <bigfoot1> mpmc, what's so funny?
[05:49] <piksi> any ways around it? i loaded all kind of modules from the second console but it didn'th lepo
[05:49] <bigfoot1> 8-)
[05:49] <zanathel> so, if I for an instance opens a PHP document named "myDoc.php", the startup arguments would be: gedit ./evilDocument.php ./myDoc.php. I want to get rid of "evilDocument.php".
[05:49] <piksi> help
[05:49] <aladds_> hi
[05:49] <Nightcr8wl3r> any ideas anyone regarding a problem with wnck-applet
[05:49] <ph8> Seveas: So! Do you think it's unsupported and i should bug report it or somesuch?
[05:49] <luminerd> Hey guys, I'm desperate for some help at this point.  My problem is that my PS/2 mouse doesn't work.  I am sure it's plugged in and in the right slot, and catting it won't get a response.  I tried editing my xorg.conf, but nothing works...any ideas?  Has anyone here ever had a problem with a mouse not working like this?  It is very strange I think.....
[05:49] <Nightcr8wl3r> ailed: Failed: Schema `/schemas/apps/workspace_switcher_applet/prefs/display_all_workspaces' specified for `/apps/panel/applets/applet_17/prefs/display_all_workspaces' stores a non-schema value
[05:49] <Nightcr8wl3r> Failed: Failed: Schema `/schemas/apps/workspace_switcher_applet/prefs/num_rows' specified for `/apps/panel/applets/applet_17/prefs/num_rows' stores a non-schema value
[05:50] <aladds_> has anoyone noticed that sourceforge seems to be down?
[05:50] <Seveas> aladds_, it isn't...
[05:50] <aladds_> odd
[05:50] <Sputn1k> where is modprobe.conf file i ubuntu? O.o
[05:50] <aladds_> it seems to be for me
[05:50] <ruumis> is there any way to get precompiled(?) nvidia driver for ubuntu? without apt-get?
[05:51] <luminerd> Please?  Nobody's helping :(
[05:51] <Seveas> Sputn1k, modprobe.conf is obsolete
[05:51] <Seveas> luminerd, try the mailinglists/forums...
[05:51] <Nightcr8wl3r> anyone
[05:51] <Nightcr8wl3r> help?
[05:51] <aladds_> ok fine
[05:52] <Sputn1k> Seveas so where is modules config?
[05:52] <aladds_> it wasn't working earlier...
[05:52] <Seveas> Sputn1k, /etc/modprobe.d/* (afaik)
[05:52] <zanathel> luminerd: Try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in the root terminal
[05:52] <luminerd> zanathel, I did that :/
[05:52] <zanathel> luminerd: reconfigures everything.
[05:52] <zanathel> luminerd: ah, ok. :(
[05:52] <luminerd> thanks though :/
[05:53] <Nightcr8wl3r> can anyone help me out
[05:53] <gfsg> Ok I have a script that connects my internet (pptp from isp), where do I put it to run as root automatically on boot, or on gnome? suid doesn't work with session manager
[05:53] <Sputn1k> Seveas *=??
[05:53] <gfsg> suid doesn't seem to work with scripts at all
[05:53] <Nightcr8wl3r> has anyone seen this error before Failed: Failed: Schema `/schemas/apps/workspace_switcher_applet/prefs/display_all_workspaces' specified for `/apps/panel/applets/applet_17/prefs/display_all_workspaces' stores a non-schema value
[05:53] <Nightcr8wl3r> Failed: Failed: Schema `/schemas/apps/workspace_switcher_applet/prefs/num_rows' specified for `/apps/panel/applets/applet_17/prefs/num_rows' stores a non-schema value
[05:54] <mjr> gfsg, the quick'n'dirty way is to call it in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[05:54] <master_of_puppet> hi, why is mencoder (@ubuntu) 50% slower as on SuSE with the same hardware?
[05:54] <crashd> why is it so hard to find a decent metacity theme :\
[05:54] <Seveas> Nightcr8wl3r: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[05:54] <druke> how does one set a cisco wireless pc card to RFMON?
[05:54] <mjr> gfsg, the proper way would be to make it a sysv init script along the lines of the other scripts in that directory
[05:54] <Seveas> Nightcr8wl3r, and do not paste in here
[05:54] <gfsg> mjr - I like it quick and dirty, ty
[05:54] <luminerd> Seveas, it's on LQ, but I'm desperately in need of fast help!
[05:55] <kyncani> gfsg: quick and dirty, put it in /etc/init.d, add [ "$1" = "start" ]  || exit 0;  at the beginning, and use sysv-rc-conf to add it to runlevel 2
[05:55] <crashd> also, is there any way to make icons smaller, metacity takes up too much screen estate even at 1040
[05:56] <kyncani> gfsg: well, /me's just realised it's not *that* dirty
[05:56] <gfsg> kyncani - sounds even better, ty
[05:56] <gfsg> hehe
[05:57] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[05:57] <Pegasos989> Hello, EnsignRedshirt.
[05:58] <ph8> ok
[05:58] <ph8> other questions.
[05:58] <mindmedic> Hello, EnsignRedshirt
[05:58] <EnsignRedshirt> I'm still running warty, which means I only recently got Firefox 1.0.* in a recent security update.
[05:58] <ph8> Is it possible to get rid of that annoying as hell on-login sound in Kubuntu
[05:58] <ph8> and/or change it?
[05:58] <mindmedic> ph8, look in the kde control center..
[05:58] <mpmc> lol
[05:58] <mindmedic> "system sound something"
[05:59] <luminerd> man this sucks
[05:59] <EnsignRedshirt> The search function is different in Firefox 1.0.    Do I need do kill/restart X.  How do i fix it?
[06:00] <ph8> it's sys notification -> sounds -> kde system notifications
[06:00] <renato> hi, i love ubuntu!
[06:01] <hyphenated> ep: if you're lucky, a couple of Ctrl+Alt+numpad_minuses will fix it
[06:01] <EnsignRedshirt> Seveas: F3 brings up the search field. It seems to be the same as ctrl-F.  But it does not move the page to the word.
[06:01] <Seveas> EnsignRedshirt, it should go to the word while you are typing
[06:01] <Seveas> F3 moves you to the next occurence of that word
[06:01] <druke> I am trying to edit my driver configuration(of my wireless card) however the /proc/driver/aironet/Config returns access denied when i try and save, i ran gedit as sudo though
[06:02] <Seveas> renato, we all do :)
[06:02] <master_of_puppet> hi, why is mencoder (@ubuntu) 50% slower as on SuSE with the same hardware?
[06:02] <EnsignRedshirt> Seveas: Hmmm... that is not happening.
[06:02] <resmo> hi
[06:02] <Pegasos989> 'lo
[06:02] <luminerd> fux0rs
[06:02] <ph8> if i run -> kcontrol
[06:03] <resmo> i got a strange thing here, i can only start realplayer if gnomemeeting runs, any ideas why?
[06:03] <ph8> with sudo
[06:03] <ph8> bugger all happens
[06:03] <ph8> is there an error log anywhere?
[06:03] <matt_> hey, does anyone know how to load new changes in the /etc/fstab without rebooting?
[06:03] <hyphenated> ph8: are you running it in a shell?
[06:03] <Seveas> matt_, mount -a
[06:03] <ph8> i want to try running it with sudo because whenever i try and enter administrator mode it just cocks up - goes back to the index and doesn't go into admin mode
[06:04] <Seveas> or for certain partitions: mount -o remount /dev/thedrive
[06:04] <ph8> i've had to do everything through the shell so far (re: network config)
[06:04] <ph8> i'm trying to run it from the kde menu
[06:04] <ph8> kde button -> run
[06:04] <matt_> one minute, ill look into that
[06:04] <hyphenated> ph8: ah. well, sudo is waiting for you to type your password in ;-) only it hasn't put any place there for you to type it
[06:05] <hyphenated> ph8: try kdesu or something instead instead of sudo
[06:05] <ph8> i use the 'more options' field
[06:05] <ph8> that lets me put in my password
[06:05] <selinium> What is the command line for trace route?
[06:05] <ph8> kdesu worked ;)
[06:05] <ph8> how's that work without a password then?
[06:06] <luminerd> Someone here must know my problem, and if they do, I beg for help...I am absolutely desperate as I have 20 machines which were supposed to be up and running this morning.  they are identical and if I get one working I'll have no problems getting them all to work...but this damn stubborn mouse just won't work.  PLEASE I beg for help!
[06:06] <hyphenated> you probably used it for something else earlier, like those failed attempts to get into administrator mode
[06:06] <hyphenated> if it were a fresh login, or you wait for the 'last use' timer to expire, it'll prompt for the password
[06:06] <ph8> ah
[06:06] <Seveas> luminerd, stop repeating and try the mailinglist/forums. it is clear that no-one in here can help you...
[06:07] <JoshRA> hello. I am trying to get a higer res then 1024x768 but that is all ubuntu is saying is there but i know fora fact uit can go higher. How can i fix this
[06:07] <luminerd> Seveas, I have posted it on the forums.  I am waiting for a response.
[06:08] <luminerd> Seveas, and the only time I repeated was when you requested me to do so.  All other times I have rephrased.
[06:08] <luminerd> Is there professional support for Ubuntu that I can pay for?
[06:10] <icewt> luminerd, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/supportoptions/paidsupport
[06:10] <eurux> hi all...
[06:10] <luminerd> thank you icewt!
[06:10] <eurux> I've a problem during the install of ubuntu on usb disk.
[06:10] <eurux> may someone help me?

[06:10] <EnsignRedshirt> Seveas (or anyone else):  I looked for settings that might affect the search function under Preferences. The only one that seemed relevant was "Begin finding as you begin typing" under Advanced/Accessibility, but it didn't help.
[06:11] <Despeeh> JoshRA:  set xorg to show you that mode
[06:11] <selinium> luminerd: good luck
[06:11] <luminerd> icewt, is there phone support I can pay for?
[06:12] <matt_> Seveas, that worked great.  thanks
[06:12] <luminerd> Other than a $250 package when I have no need for anything but a phone conversation with someone who knows what they are talking about?  I'll do it if I have to.
[06:12] <icewt> luminerd, don't know
[06:12] <Despeeh> eurux: do you have some little usb stick only . or big harddrive?
[06:13] <eurux> big one.
[06:13] <luminerd> ok thanks
[06:13] <eurux> i've modified mkinitrd.conf for usb support
[06:13] <EnsignRedshirt> luminerd: Do try the mailing list, too. You might hit a different set of virtual "ears".
[06:13] <icewt> luminerd, you could try some other channels too though, for example #ubuntu @ ircnet or something
[06:13] <eurux> but during mkinitrd it fails.
[06:13] <Despeeh> hmm
[06:13] <selinium> luminerd: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/supportoptions/marketplace/
[06:13] <osfameron> the marketplace has lots of company names - maybe one of those wil bill for a phone-call support?
[06:14] <luminerd> thanks selinium and osfameron
[06:14] <Echelon-H> is there a firewall on ubuntu?
[06:14] <Echelon-H> I need to open port 1999 and I dont know how to do it.
[06:16] <selinium> Echelon-H sudo apt-get install firestarter
[06:16] <sky__> hi@all
[06:16] <wdh> hi ppls.. does anyone know how i could burn a *.bin image to a cd without having the *.cue available?
[06:16] <Choubaka> Echelon-H: If you don't have a firewall, then the port is open .P
[06:17] <sky__> hmm someone has tipps to make ubuntu (better said gnome) faster with only 366mhz/256MB RAM ?
[06:17] <selinium> Echelon-H:; are you using a router? It may have a hardware firewall in it
[06:17] <Echelon-H> Choubaka, but i opened a port and im behind a router. i've enabled dmz but still it doesn't work.
[06:17] <Echelon-H> selinium, i canceled the DMZ for this adress.
[06:18] <Choubaka> Echelon-H: I doubt ubuntu can help that.
[06:18] <Choubaka> configure your router properly.
[06:19] <selinium> Echelon-H: configure the router to pass the port onto the pc want to recieve it.
[06:19] <gregg_> wdh: there's a chance if it is single-track and you know its format
[06:19] <gregg_> wdh: most "raw" images have mode2/2352
[06:19] <acid2> Hey ho, what repo holds libfaad?
[06:20] <wdh> gregg_, and how would i find that out?
[06:21] <warty> Can anybody explain the difference between the ubuntu installer and the Debian sarge installer?
[06:21] <gregg_> wdh: try this script: http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/1314
[06:22] <gregg_> call it with "script infile.bin outfile.iso", ^C after a few seconds and look at what file reports about outfile.iso
[06:22] <EnsignRedshirt> Anyone know how to get Firefox search to move to the location in a page where it finds a word?
[06:22] <Belutz> help... my virtual desktop is gone.... how do i restore it ??
[06:23] <EnsignRedshirt> Currently I have to enable highlighting, and then manually scroll the page and look for the yellow highlights.
[06:23] <mindmedic> Belutz, right click on a free space in the panel --> add --> desktop switcher
[06:23] <gregg_> wdh: if file tells you it's iso-9660, it's doing ok
[06:24] <Belutz> mindmedic: yes... already... but in desktop switcher there is only one desktop
[06:24] <hmrocha> can i safely upgrade some packages to the breezy version without upgrading X ?
[06:24] <mindmedic> belutz, tried right clicking on the applet?
[06:24] <acid2> someone mind posting there sources.list ?
[06:24] <mindmedic> preferences
[06:24] <hmrocha> i mean, upgrading libgtk for example
[06:24] <starseed> does ubuntu have a lot of user contributed repos .. last time I used it about 6 months ago I found the set of packages available pretty lacking compariably
[06:25] <wdh> gregg_, well.. it is :)
[06:25] <wdh> gregg_, so i should just wait that out and burn the iso?
[06:25] <dvsoftware> me again
[06:25] <dvsoftware> i have another problem
[06:25] <mindmedic> starseed, universe multiverse & backports got everything i need..
[06:25] <gregg_> wdh: yeah, just restart the script and let it convert the whole file and burn it after that
[06:25] <dvsoftware> nvidia again
[06:25] <wdh> gregg_, thx a lot :)
[06:25] <dvsoftware> i've installed 64bit drivers and they work fine
[06:26] <dvsoftware> but 32bit compatibility doesn't work
[06:26] <wdh> gregg_, this is way better then some binary windows executable doing it :) at least i can see what its doing now basicly :)
[06:26] <Echelon-H> is there anything like "net send" in linux?
[06:26] <dvsoftware> i've tried to fix that issue
[06:26] <dvsoftware> but...
[06:26] <gregg_> wdh: hehe
[06:26] <dvsoftware> it works partially
[06:26] <Belutz> hmmm ok
[06:26] <eurux> Echelon-H: you can start nmap <ip-router> and see ...
[06:27] <Belutz> trying hat
[06:27] <gregg_> Echelon-H: smbclient -M AFAIK
[06:28] <Spudchat> omg everyones fingers must have fallen off
[06:28] <gregg_> Echelon-H: but maybe it's not the same...
[06:28] <godzirra> Anyone know how to get nethack to let you use the arrow keys to move? :)
[06:28] <gregg_> smbclient -M uses winpopup
[06:28] <gregg_> godzirra: gee, that's not geeky enough
[06:29] <selinium> Why does my pc keep requesting the install disc when installing new apps?
[06:29] <Choubaka> eh
[06:29] <Hoxzer> how much ubuntu takes HDD space?
[06:29] <Choubaka> no-one plays roguelikes with the arrow keys. you need to use the numpad ;P
[06:29] <icewt> selinium, remove the first line in /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:29] <sky__> @Hoxzer: approx 2GB with me
[06:29] <selinium> icetw: cheers
[06:29] <godzirra> gregg_: I'm lazy and I have a laptop.  If I had a numberpad I'd use the number pad.
[06:30] <Hoxzer> Sky: :O oh its pretty much anyway
[06:30] <Hoxzer> I thought something like 1GB
[06:30] <coolkev> how do i turn off any unnessary system logs... also does the ubuntu system log the Login attempts at stat up and the user and password entered?
[06:30] <Choubaka> Well, considering the number of apps ubuntu comes with it's not much
[06:30] <gregg_> Hoxzer: 3.5GB with *lots* of stuff installed
[06:31] <icewt> selinium, ...or comment it out. the one pointing to cdrom
[06:31] <selinium> icewt: works a treat!
[06:31] <Choubaka> gregg_: whoa. lots indeed. :P
[06:31] <Hoxzer> yeah, my laptop has only 10GB HDD
[06:31] <selinium> icewt: cheers!
[06:31] <gregg_> about 1200 packages
[06:31] <Belutz> mindmedic: it worksss... thx :)
[06:31] <coolkev> My question is directly Ubuntu related
[06:31] <godzirra> gregg_: no idea?
[06:31] <Hoxzer> It may have one extra HDD but I did't have mount it
[06:31] <Hoxzer> how I can see if there is one?
[06:31] <JoshRA> Despeeh: and how do i do that
[06:31] <coolkev> So is it possible to get help asap
[06:31] <esac> i am missing smbmount, any idea how to get it ?
[06:32] <gregg_> godzirra: no idea :)
[06:32] <melio> coolkev, dont' ask to ask, just ask
[06:32] <coolkev> how do i turn off any unnessary system logs... also does the ubuntu system log the Login attempts at stat up and the user and password entered?
[06:32] <dvsoftware> Hoxzer, fdisk, cfdisk
[06:32] <eurux> well on extra hd I've a problem....
[06:32] <eurux> i'm not able to start second stage installl
[06:32] <zAo^> Can some1 help me with a 3-button mouse and Imwheel?
[06:32] <eurux> after the first reboot on usb disk, kernel panic.
[06:32] <melio> coolkev if you know specificly which log you are trying to turn off, find out what generates it. and change the command in the file that loads it at boot
[06:33] <melio> usualy in linux, each runlevel has a command file
[06:33] <esac> or i guess more specifically, what do i apt-get install in order to get smbmount ?
[06:33] <melio> like modprobe.conf boots first
[06:33] <Hoxzer> Dv: when I do cfdisk it says something like "serious error: can't open driver"
[06:33] <coolkev> i'm talking about default logs that Ubuntu automatially has running.. without any additional software
[06:33] <melio> then each runlevel's loader
[06:33] <Hoxzer> "press anykey to exit from cfdisk
[06:33] <raDeon> how do i put gcc in my path
[06:33] <Hoxzer> I think its becouse my firs HDD is too full
[06:34] <dvsoftware> Hoxzer, that means that something is screwed up
[06:34] <gregg_> Hoxzer: fdisk -l /dev/yourdisk (e.g. /dev/hda)
[06:34] <melio> coolkev I'v only loaded ubuntu last night
[06:34] <starseed> is there a base install iso , with ability to download packages from the internet ?
[06:34] <melio> so if I figure out the userland of this before too long I can probably help you
[06:34] <zAo^> esac, did you even try to find it out? took me 1 sec...
[06:34] <melio> keep asking. someone will know. try forums also
[06:35] <raDeon> how do i put gcc in my path
[06:35] <esac> zAo^: i didnt know about the apt-cache search command until just now, but i found it with that command too, thanks for your wonderful help (dripping sarcasm)
[06:35] <dvsoftware> raDeon, you need to install gcc
[06:36] <dvsoftware> apt-get install build-essential
[06:36] <raDeon> thanks
[06:36] <dvsoftware> np
[06:36] <zAo^> esac, you asked the same thing 2 times in 1 min. In Synaptic (see every tutorial) you can find things
[06:37] <esac> zAo^: a. i didnt ask the same thing 2 times, i was trying to clarify what i was asking, b. you are wrong to assume that all people actually use the gui
[06:37] <t0mmy> i'm curious, why exactly do virtual terminals not work on debian/ubuntu?
[06:37] <t0mmy> they seem like they'd be a handy thing to have
[06:38] <zAo^> esac, I presume, when you only use console, that you might know of apt-cache
[06:38] <gregg_> t0mmy: the do work, or I don't know what you mean with virtual terminal :)
[06:38] <gregg_> theys
[06:38] <melio> anyone know the gmail settings for pop in evolution
[06:38] <gregg_> they, damnit :)
[06:38] <melio> I tried pop.gmail.com and it's not connecting
[06:38] <esac> zAo^: well i obviously didn't thats why i was asking :)
[06:38] <melio> smtp is correct. it does that first
[06:38] <melio> hey f_newton
[06:39] <t0mmy> you know, ALT+F* and such
[06:39] <t0mmy> like on fedora/red hat
[06:39] <f_newton> hey melio whats up?
[06:39] <zAo^> esac, k. Sorry for my reaction m8, I only see a lot of people asking things that are in the Guide.
[06:39] <melio> just tweaking, setting up apps
[06:39] <SwitchUp> Hi, my first time using ubuntu. Is there an easy way to watch dvd and xvid movies?
[06:39] <zAo^> SwissPhoenix, www.ubuntuguide.org
[06:39] <melio> switchup xine and mplayer
[06:40] <baua_Dr_GonZo> hi men
[06:40] <f_newton> yeah I did that most of yesterday
[06:40] <baua_Dr_GonZo> I have a question
[06:40] <raDeon> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[06:40] <raDeon> how do i fix this
[06:40] <eurux> well i tryed the guide for boot with ubuntu from my usb disk, but it fails during mkinitrd
[06:40] <f_newton> how do you like it so far?   other then the mdk style fonts I mean?
[06:40] <gregg_> t0mmy: well, they do work in ubuntu
[06:40] <baua_Dr_GonZo> I have a local network with some computers on ubuntu but without internet access
[06:41] <gregg_> maybe your /etc/inittab is screwed up?
[06:41] <melio> f_newton,  honestly. I think it's disorganized
[06:41] <baua_Dr_GonZo> I would like forward the update from a server to my local network
[06:41] <f_newton> how so?
[06:41] <eurux> no It' ok...
[06:41] <luminerd> why the **** doesn't emacs come with ubuntu? lol
[06:41] <melio> f_newton,  a new user wouldnt know how to setup repos just like in fedora
[06:41] <f_newton> the menu is not laid out like rh thats true... its more like stock gnome
[06:41] <t0mmy> alt+F* virtual terminals don't work
[06:41] <baua_Dr_GonZo> Is it possible ??
[06:41] <t0mmy> ew emacs :D
[06:41] <melio> f_newton, yeah I guess I agree
[06:41] <t0mmy> shield*
[06:41] <melio> f_newton,  the issue with bad resolutions at startup could foil a lot of installs tho
[06:42] <t0mmy> i'd probably like emacs if i learned the key combos
[06:42] <melio> f_newton,  I have a 19 inch crt monitor and a geforce 6800, I should have no problems with xorg.conf defualt
[06:42] <t0mmy> but i just use gedit :D
[06:42] <melio> but alas. I had to remove the high resolution out of it to get it to work
[06:42] <eurux> baua_Dr_GonZo: something like SystemImager ?
[06:42] <melio> let alone having to touch VI
[06:42] <melio> that pissed me off
[06:42] <melio> vi is my least favorite app on the planet
[06:42] <luminerd> how do I get emacs?
[06:42] <t0mmy> ...
[06:42] <t0mmy> >_<
[06:42] <t0mmy> sudo apt-get install emacs
[06:42] <f_newton> melio... there really does need some attention to installation menu and information, but as far as setting up repos if you read the beginners guide all is easily explained
[06:42] <t0mmy> probably
[06:42] <luminerd> thanks t0mmy
[06:43] <t0mmy> vim is cool
[06:43] <Hoxzer> how can I see how much I have free space?
[06:43] <t0mmy> emacs is like 483175926 key combonations
[06:43] <t0mmy> vim it's just like all you need is
[06:43] <t0mmy> :q
[06:43] <gregg_> t0mmy: when you are in X, you need to press ctrl-alt-f* to get out of it
[06:43] <baua_Dr_GonZo> eurux, I don't know this app,
[06:43] <t0mmy> :wq
[06:43] <t0mmy> :q!
[06:43] <icewt> Hoxzer, df -h
[06:43] <baua_Dr_GonZo> I gonna look at it
[06:43] <melio> f_newton,  I will tonight. I'm just eating and getting ready for work
[06:43] <f_newton> melio, my concern is with the inner workings, the way the kernel works with  the apps I use etc
[06:43] <baua_Dr_GonZo> yhx eurux
[06:43] <baua_Dr_GonZo> thx eurux
[06:43] <melio> f_newton,  I can't tell you my experiance with that. things seem to run fairly smooth so far tho
[06:43] <eurux> np
[06:44] <t0mmy> wow
[06:44] <t0mmy> it does work
[06:44] <t0mmy> that's hot
[06:44] <f_newton> yes I've been very happy with the way it works
[06:44] <melio> Gimp loads 200% faster :P
[06:44] <t0mmy> i never knew that worked in ubuntu
[06:44] <t0mmy> thanks
[06:44] <f_newton> lol not just gimp
[06:44] <melio> I do belive that's because of reisefs tho
[06:44] <melio> yeah lots of things are faster
[06:44] <Hoxzer> freespace 700MB :D
[06:44] <melio> this is very good performance
[06:44] <Hoxzer> aargh
[06:44] <Hoxzer> DVD is taking too much space
[06:45] <luminerd> f*ck!!!
[06:45] <luminerd> package emacs is not available!
[06:45] <dvsoftware> argh
[06:45] <djp> luminerd: emacs21 is what you need
[06:45] <dvsoftware> i  can't get cedega to work correctly
[06:45] <melio> Ooo the trash can is in the corner
[06:45] <melio> nice!
[06:45] <redtech> melio: you got the pop working?
[06:45] <dvsoftware> on amd64
[06:45] <melio> redtech no
[06:46] <luminerd> djp, thanks!
[06:46] <melio> redtech I used pop.gmail.com with secure Always
[06:46] <redtech> enabled ssl for pop.gmail.com ?
[06:46] <melio> that usualy works
[06:46] <redtech> yeah,..  hmm
[06:46] <melio> yeah
[06:46] <dvsoftware> how much data i need to download in order to set up 32bit chroot?
[06:46] <melio> lemme try it again .. I closed evo just now
[06:46] <dvsoftware> i have slow connection (4kb/s)
[06:47] <acid2> could someone tell me which repo contains libfaad2 and libfaad2-devel?
[06:47] <dvsoftware> ?
[06:47] <dvsoftware> anyone
[06:47] <raDeon> checking for libz... configure: error: not found.
[06:47] <raDeon>           Possibly configure picks up an outdated version
[06:47] <raDeon>           installed by XFree86. Remove it from your system.
[06:47] <raDeon>           Check your installation and look into config.log
[06:47] <acid2> dvsoftware: patience...
[06:47] <raDeon> how do i fix
[06:47] <melio> there we go
[06:47] <melio> for some reason it wasnt working
[06:47] <melio> now it is
[06:47] <bolivar> i searched "picture" in the package manager hoping to find something to print more than one picture on 1 peice of photo paper.  like my hp software did on windows.  anything like that available?  thanks
[06:48] <acid2> melio: you got gmail working in evolution?
[06:48] <icewt> acid2, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=libfaad2&searchon=names&subword=1&version=hoary&release=all
[06:48] <f_newton> gmail is being screwy today folks
[06:48] <dvsoftware> acid2, i did
[06:48] <f_newton> its a server side problem
[06:48] <f_newton> I have gmail working in both evo and  thunderbird myself
[06:49] <dvsoftware> i'm using kmail personally
[06:49] <f_newton> acid2, are you having problems with gmail?
[06:49] <f_newton> gmail is not a pop3 reader
[06:49] <dArtagnan> where is superkaramba installed by default? I can't find it
[06:49] <Echelon-H> is there a command to see all my open ports?
[06:49] <melio> acid2 yes
[06:50] <melio> f_newton gmail does too have pop3
[06:50] <acid2> f_newton: ermm no.. Just last time I tried with evo, gmail didnt work
[06:50] <luminerd> WTF?!!?!?! You can't go to terminals in Ubuntu?!
[06:50] <acid2> and gmail does support pop
[06:50] <acid2> luminerd: WTF?!?! YES YOU CAN?!??! WT?F?!?!
[06:50] <dArtagnan> oh course you can luminerd
[06:50] <dArtagnan> of
[06:50] <melio> lol
[06:50] <f_newton> its not a reader its a server service
[06:50] <dArtagnan> looooook
[06:51] <dArtagnan> and you do that with your eyes ;)
[06:51] <melio> f_newton oh I thought you were stating it's not pop3 compliant
[06:51] <f_newton> Ive been using gmail with evo since gmail came out
[06:51] <melio> which it is
[06:51] <eurux> boot from a usb disk:
[06:51] <eurux> pivot_root: No such file or directory
[06:51] <eurux> /sbin/init: 428: cannot open /dev/console: no such file
[06:51] <eurux> kernel_panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init!
 elevator: using anticipatory as default io scheduler
[06:51] <melio> yeah. it's kinda laggy tho
[06:51] <f_newton> yes melio
[06:51] <melio> I doubt it's ubuntu tho. it's probably just the internet
[06:51] <Chris> test
[06:51] <f_newton> right now gmail is going thru some... pains
[06:51] <melio> heh
[06:52] <melio> yeah all the microsoft employees that can't work there
[06:52] <melio> lol
[06:52] <melio> DENIED!
[06:52] <melio> you can't even quit microsoft to work for google. how crappy
[06:52] <f_newton> how is that?
[06:52] <melio> you didnt read the news?
[06:52] <f_newton> they wont hire ms ex employees?
[06:52] <f_newton> no
[06:52] <f_newton> I dont read the news lol
[06:52] <f_newton> oh thats not true
[06:52] <melio> MS won a settlement in court that denys employees of microsoft the RIGHT to work at google when they quit
[06:52] <f_newton> I read the news all the time
[06:53] <melio> they even sued a guy for trying to work there
[06:53] <incomplete> luminerd, if with "terminals" you mean gettys it's indeed possible via C-M-F1 C-M-F2 C-M-Fn (if you're not used to Emacs style key binding notation C stand for CTRL and M for meta (ALT))
[06:53] <melio> and won!
[06:53] <f_newton> melio that is a proprietary property law and can only last up to two years
[06:53] <acid2> hmmm, gmail works in evo now
[06:53] <acid2> must've been a bad day when I tried
[06:53] <acid2> :P
[06:53] <f_newton> that is the same almost everywhere
[06:53] <Dr_Fate> is there anyway for nautilus to remember its size and column sizes?
[06:53] <f_newton> acid2  wow really?
[06:53] <melio> f_newton, yeah but google doesnt develop OS's
[06:53] <melio> or ms office
[06:53] <melio> or anything except a search engine and some mail stuff and browser hooks
[06:53] <skalpel> how can i add a delay to programs that startup with gnome?
[06:53] <Dr_Fate> why would'nt this be a natural feature?
[06:54] <melio> I say microsoft is playing unfair
[06:54] <f_newton> dr fate not in a stock gnome but in a customized gnome yes
[06:54] <Dr_Fate> f_newton, expound
[06:54] <melio> going to work. later
[06:55] <f_newton> gnome is made for a wide variety of os applications and is very generic... it is highly developed and tailored for the rh environment... as far as others well that will take time
[06:55] <f_newton> rh has spent 10 yrs customizing it
[06:55] <windex> melio, that's not what happened. i used to live in washington, and employment contracts are very standard practice in IT. the guy lived in washington at the time the agreement was made, and signed it signifying that he would NOT take a competitive job for up to 1 year after _willfully leaving_ microsoft. had they fired him, diffrent story.
[06:55] <skalpel> can someone tell me how to add a delay to programs that startup with gnome?
[06:55] <srodal> what is the GLCore module and why is it off by default?
[06:55] <f_newton> skalpel sure get a 486
[06:55] <skalpel> ha
[06:55] <luminerd> goddammit
[06:55] <skalpel> i had a 386
[06:55] <Dr_Fate> f_newton, basically, how can I customize my Nautilus to do so
[06:55] <luminerd> my mouse works on EVERY DISTRO BESIDES UBUNTU!!!! :(
[06:55] <f_newton> luminerd, no need to be offensive
[06:55] <skalpel> it is gone now forever
[06:56] <windex> skalpel, wuss. i had a 8086. it was made by Olivetti!
[06:56] <Sammi_> Is there a source for printer drivers which will run on Linux?
[06:56] <skalpel> i had an 8086 too. wuss. it was a blue chip.
[06:56] <f_newton> Dr_Fate, learn to write some scripts
[06:56] <Echelon-H> is there a way to map all my open ports?
[06:56] <skalpel> whatever that is.
[06:56] <f_newton> luminerd, that is very strange
[06:57] <wims> how do i mount my ntfs partition so that all users can access it
[06:57] <f_newton> and you are talking a standard ps2 mouse arent you?
[06:57] <acid2> wims: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:57] <simplydazed> wims: add the users to a group, then add that GID to the mount in fstab
[06:58] <Sammi_> I need to hook up my computer to a hp LaserJet 6L and all the drivers on the hp site are for Windows, pretty much.
[06:58] <luminerd> :(
[06:58] <wims> thanks
[06:58] <luminerd> brb
[06:58] <f_newton> Sammi_, use the drivers built into ubuntu
[06:58] <linuxx> hello all
[06:58] <dvsoftware> Sammi_, set up cups
[06:59] <f_newton> the 6L is a pretty standard driver
[06:59] <linuxx> anybody know how we can open the consol in ubuntu plz ?
[06:59] <skalpel> can someone tell me how to add a delay to programs that startup with gnome?
[06:59] <Despeeh> terminal
[06:59] <f_newton> right click on the desktop choose terminal
[06:59] <Hoxzer> how I can shutdown freezed screen window?
[06:59] <f_newton> or use the dropdown menu
[06:59] <Hoxzer> *can I
[06:59] <f_newton> what is it y'all kill -9?
[06:59] <linuxx> ok thanks
[06:59] <dvsoftware> skalpel, you're annoying
[06:59] <linuxx> bye
[07:00] <Despeeh> its kill for sure
[07:00] <Despeeh> the process
[07:00] <Hoxzer> I dont wanna kill whole screen
[07:00] <Hoxzer> only one window
[07:00] <dvsoftware> oh sh!t
[07:01] <skalpel> dvsoftware: sorry. i am being patient.
[07:01] <dvsoftware> how much mb's i need to download
[07:01] <dvsoftware> to setup chroot
[07:01] <dvsoftware> ?
[07:01] <Sammi_> dvsoftware: How do I go about doing this setting up of cups?
[07:01] <rob_p> skalpel:  What are you trying to accomplish?  You can assign priority to the various services that start upon boot if that's what you're after...
[07:01] <dvsoftware> Sammi_, i can't really help you cuz i don't have a printer
[07:02] <skalpel> rob_p: well it is xchat i am trying to get to wait until my background loads because it will not do transparency otherwise and i get a black background in xchat and an error message
[07:02] <skalpel> rob_p: how do i assign prioroity?
[07:02] <dvsoftware> skalpel, somebody already answered to your question
[07:02] <dvsoftware> learn to write some scripts
[07:02] <rob_p> skalpel:  man update-rc.d
[07:03] <skalpel> rob_p: thank you
[07:03] <dvsoftware> hm
[07:03] <dvsoftware> simply don't put xchat in startup
[07:03] <dvsoftware> and start it manualy
[07:04] <skalpel> but that is not what i want. linux is about doing what the user wants right? this is how i learn to use linux, by trial and error and asking questions in the support channel =)
[07:05] <skalpel> rob_p: i am not familiar with scripting, how would i use that?
[07:05] <gregg_> sh -c 'sleep 10; xchat'
[07:05] <gregg_> skalpel: ugly hack :)
[07:05] <skalpel> could i add that to my gnome session as a startup command?
[07:06] <gregg_> yeah
[07:06] <skalpel> or do i need to add that to update-rc.d
[07:06] <skalpel> ?
[07:06] <bluefoxicy> bluefox@icebox:~/.openoffice$ cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:06] <bluefoxicy> # menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8)
[07:06] <bluefoxicy> uhhhhhhh
[07:06] <bluefoxicy> bluefox@icebox:~/.openoffice$ sudo chmod o-r /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:06] <gregg_> gnu info is 3v1l
[07:07] <rob_p> skalpel:  It's actually pretty easy but far too much to discuss here in chat...  My suggestion is to learn a little bit about scripting, write a few scripts, and build on that.  There are many howtos and examples on the 'Net.  Bash shell scripting is very powerful and fairly easy to learn.
[07:07] <bluefoxicy> bluefox@icebox:~/.openoffice$ cat /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:07] <bluefoxicy> cat: /boot/grub/menu.lst: Permission denied
[07:07] <bluefoxicy> there we go.
[07:07] <kemik> skalpel:  you wanna start xchat when X starts?
[07:08] <skalpel> kemik: yes, but only after the background loads on my desktop
[07:08] <skalpel> rob_p: i will probably do that, thank you
[07:08] <kemik> skalpel:  just have the xchat window up when you logoff and mark the box "save desktop"
[07:08] <kemik> skalpel:  hmm.. k
[07:09] <skalpel> kemik: any ideas?
[07:10] <kemik> skalpel:  just what i said, save current desktop
[07:10] <mbirkis> hi all... i was wondering what wm i could use?? i wan't a _really_ lightweight one...
[07:10] <kemik> mbirkis:  icewm
[07:11] <kemik> mbirkis:  or maybe xfce4, but its a bit heavier
[07:11] <mbirkis> kemik, icewm... thnx alot, will check it out
[07:11] <skalpel> kemik: i have done that, but xchat still gets an error when trying to startup with transparency, it tells me my window manager canot handle it and i have to turn it on manually, which is annoying
[07:11] <f_newton> lordy gmail is messed up today
[07:11] <kemik> skalpel:  oh. well i dont use transparency... :)
[07:13] <Sammi_> dvsoftware: I looked in the Ubuntu wiki for CUPS and all it showed me was stuff about cups-pdf. Could you direct me to somewhere with more information?
[07:13] <bigfoot1> i want to sync my Palm OS pda to my ubuntu computer in such a way that the information can then be synced from ubuntu pc to another pda of mine, a Pocket PC. What do you guys recommend?
[07:14] <tim> I get a sound delay when playing DVD's in totem, any ideas?
[07:15] <bigfoot1> i've tried to sync my palm os pda (Visor Pro) to evolution. it seems only my address/contacts are syncing. Even after 10 minutes, my PalmOS pda says that it is synchronizing the Date book.
[07:15] <kemik> tim:  try videola
[07:15] <kemik> tim:  try videolan
[07:15] <Chinstrap> bigfoot1,
[07:15] <Goodspeed_> why does every single media player say my soundcard is in use?
[07:15] <bigfoot1> Chinstrap, yes?
[07:16] <bigfoot1> i'm all ears, Chinstrap
[07:16] <Chinstrap> bigfoot1, possibly one of the other plugins is crashing.  Try disabling all of the sync plugins, then enabling and syncing with them one at a time
[07:16] <kemik> Goodspeed_:  perhaps the soundserver is funky, or your card isin use by the browser or something ?
[07:16] <tim> kemik, is it available in universe?
[07:17] <bigfoot1> Chinstrap, okay. but even with the address plugin: it works. but the categories are not preserved. is this to be taken as normal?
[07:17] <kemik> tim: no, you need to add the videolan repository
[07:17] <tim> alright thx
[07:17] <Chinstrap> bigfoot1, my categories are preserved, but I don't have any custom ones, so that might be it
[07:17] <dArtagnan> Any idea where superkaramba installs to? I can't find the executable file
[07:18] <bigfoot1> Chinstrap, i don't understand. right now, i'm talking about syncing a palm os pda with evolution.
[07:18] <kemik> tim: http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/928 <-- those
[07:18] <dvsoftware> how to install 32bit compatibility on nvidia 64bit driver?
[07:18] <Chinstrap> bigfoot1, right, but that uses the generic gnome sync options, so go into the gnome pda prefs and disable all of the conduits, then enable and sync with them one at a time
[07:18] <tim> kemik, is it safe to use sarge repos on ubuntu?
[07:19] <kemik> tim:  those are only for videolan
[07:19] <tim> alright cool
[07:19] <bigfoot1> Chinstrap, and where do i go to access these snyc options? in evolution?
[07:20] <Chinstrap> bigfoot1, are you running gnome?
[07:20] <bigfoot1> Chinstrap, yes.
[07:20] <Chinstrap> System menu->Preferences->Palm OS Devices