[09:58] <TakeItEZ> scyld: check the values in /etc/anacron and read "man anacrontab" what they mean
[09:59] <scyld> I understand, read what I sad...
[09:59] <TakeItEZ> scyld: anacron only runs ONCE a day (by default) with a given delay.
[10:00] <scyld> yes, for me only at boottime.
[10:00] <TakeItEZ> scyld: cron always only executes jobs when the computer runs at the given time
[10:00] <thunder1212> hi
[10:00] <TakeItEZ> scyld: why shouldn't it run the job today 0915 tomorrow 0855?
[10:01] <TakeItEZ> scyld: once a day, not once in 24hrs
[10:01] <scyld> because there is no 1 day between them.
[10:01] <scyld> there is 20 minutes missing.
[10:01] <TakeItEZ> if "date +%d" differs it is a different day
[10:01] <histo> scyld: anacron only monitors date not time
[10:02] <histo> scyld: look in /var/spool/anacron/*
[10:02] <thunder1212> help..
[10:02] <scyld> damn, they say about timestamps I thought they count time between them...
[10:02] <TakeItEZ> scyld: you might run it today 2355 and tomorrow 0010
[10:02] <scyld> u sure?
[10:02] <thunder1212> yes
[10:02] <TakeItEZ> yes
[10:03] <TakeItEZ> scyld: grep daily /etc/anacrontab
[10:03] <scyld> ok, will check this out ;)
[10:03] <scyld> TakeItEZ: I know all this files ;)
[10:03] <TakeItEZ> scyld: 1 5 ....       so daily 5mins after boottime
[10:03] <histo> scyld: you would know this is you read the man page
[10:03] <TakeItEZ> scyld: ii highly doubt it
[10:03] <histo> !ask | thunder1212
[10:04] <TakeItEZ> s/daily/once a day/
[10:04] <scyld> histo: which one?
[10:04] <histo> scyld: anacron
[10:04] <thunder1212> histo: hi i have a netgear wna1000m wifi card and i want to share my internet connection thrugh it plz help..
[10:04] <histo> !ics | thunder1212
[10:04] <mobhero> hi, ubuntu 12.04 is not shutting down again its coming back to the login prompt... pls help on this..
[10:04] <scyld> acha, ok I missed that ;)
[10:05] <scyld> "Only the date is used for the  time  calculations.  The hour is not used." ;)
[10:05] <scyld> sorry
[10:06] <thunder1212> histo: tried ics..  is it possible to share my 3g dongle connection on my desktop through a wifi card to my laptop
[10:07] <root_____> is there anyone here who use sylpheed email client?
[10:08] <asd> is there anyone here who use sylpheed email client?
[10:08] <TakeItEZ> !anyone | asd
[10:08] <java_lfs> How can i do a "seek" at an offset larger than 4 GByte in Java, using Ubuntu 10.04 32bit with LFS (large file support) ? (Is there a java version wich is linked to the glibc with LFS ?)
[10:09] <histo> thunder1212: yes it's possible
[10:09] <Guest75664> does anyone here who use sylpheed email client?
[10:10] <TakeItEZ> !anyone | Guest75664 still
[10:10] <jonascj> Guest75664: sorry no
[10:10] <aasu> aakas
[10:11] <aasu> hi pinky
[10:11] <pinky> hello aasu
[10:11] <aasu> how r u  pinky
[10:12] <lasantha> !details
[10:12] <pinky> aasu: I'm well, snow's slowing things down a bit here in London though.
[10:12] <thunder1212> histo: ?
[10:13] <MonkeyDust> aasu  pinky type /join #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat
[10:13] <aasu> how is ife there
[10:13] <bazhang> aasu, thats offtopic here
[10:13] <cub> i have a problem
[10:14] <histo> thunder1212: yes?
[10:14] <cub> how do i make it so when i have multiple instances of a program running the window preview doesnt take as long to generate or take me to window i want to view??? (12.04 unity)
[10:14] <histo> thunder1212: you'r 3g device should be seen as a network interface. Possibly ppp0
[10:14] <aasu> pinky r u there
[10:14] <bazhang> !ot | aasu
[10:15] <lcabreza> hi guys how do we set the scroll mouse speed?
[10:15] <cub> !guidelines
[10:15] <histo> thunder1212: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1313977  Old thread but you should be able to understand some of the concepts.
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> lcabreza  system settings, mause & touchpad
[10:15] <MonkeyDust> mous*
[10:16] <xingle> hi all
[10:16] <aasu> i m new in ubuntu what all software are required for download
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> aasu  the software you need
[10:17] <mIKEjONES>  aschro what are you trying to download?
[10:17] <Guest75664> aasu: ask exact question
[10:17] <java_lfs> .seek(1024*1024*1024*2-1); works but .seek(1024*1024*1024*2); does not. It will result in the error: java.io.IOException: Negative seek offset.
[10:17] <xingle> how can i restore the correct configuration after a miss operation: #chmod 755 /etc/*
[10:17] <aasu> i wanna rotate my sereen like qube
[10:18] <bazhang> !cube | aasu
[10:18] <mIKEjONES> aasu: google compiz
[10:18] <Guest75664> aasu: u can use compiz for this
[10:18] <java_lfs> I'm using ubuntu 10.04, 32 bit with large file support... Do I need to have a special version of java, to get this running ???
[10:18] <Guest75664> !cube | aasu
[10:19] <mIKEjONES> java_lfs: 2*1024*1024*1024 is 0x80000000, or 2GB
[10:19] <mIKEjONES> 0x8000:0000 is a very large negative number
[10:19] <MonkeyDust> aasu  the cube doesnt work well with unity
[10:19] <mIKEjONES> that's why it's complaining
[10:20] <mIKEjONES> unity is bad :/ you should probably uninstall it the second you install ubuntu
[10:20] <Guest75664> !lubuntu
[10:20] <java_lfs> Sorry, you are completely right !!! mIKEjONES.... But i still have a probloem reading large files in java. Can you help me out ?
[10:21] <aasu> ITS NOT WORKING
[10:21] <mIKEjONES> aasu: well at least you tried, now throw your computer out
[10:21] <cub> who here works for canonical ? i need to speak to someone that does?
[10:21] <bazhang> !work | aasu
[10:21] <mIKEjONES> cub: I do
[10:22] <mIKEjONES> java_lfs: I'm not really a java dude :/
[10:22] <Guest75664> aasu: check out this http://opensource-sidh.blogspot.in/2011/06/enable-3d-cube-with-unity-in-ubuntu-without-crash.html
[10:23] <java_lfs> Ok, thanx mIKEjONES.
[10:23] <xingle> hi all, how can i fix it after a miss operation: #chmod 755 /etc/*
[10:23] <cub> mIKEjONES, cool :)
[10:24] <Michael_87> God I really hate windows 8. But I have to many files on that hardrive right now. How do I access them if say I'm on ubuntu on a jumpdrive? it won't let me mount even after I did a full shutdown. Please help
[10:24] <cub> so no one knows how to speed up program window preview in unity?
[10:24] <ubuntuw1204> hi
[10:24] <ubuntuw1204> i want to share my internet connection
[10:24] <MonkeyDust> cub  guess nobody has ever needed/tried it
[10:25] <cub> well dang it takes too long for it to load on mine
[10:25] <histo> !details | Michael_87
[10:25] <cub> 1 second
[10:25] <cub> i dont want to wait 1 second for the thing to pop up
[10:25] <histo> !ics > ubuntuw1204
[10:26] <ubuntuw1204> histo: i tried that. i created an adhoc connection and its not working
[10:26] <histo> ubuntuw1204: did you create the masquerade rules etc...?
[10:26] <ubuntuw1204> histo: no
[10:26] <Michael_87> ok I'm running ubuntu on a jumpdrive right now. I do not want to do an install untill I backup all my files wich I cannot do yet.  But my desktop is running windows 8. I did a full shut down while inside windows 8 and I still cannot mount it while running ubuntu
[10:26] <histo> ubuntuw1204: well that's why
[10:26] <MonkeyDust> cub  you can report it as a !bug or submit it in !brainstorm
[10:27] <lcabreza> MonkeyDust:its not there ..
[10:27] <histo> ubuntuw1204: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1313977
[10:27] <histo> Michael_87: are you getting an error when you try to mount it?
[10:27] <cub> idk if it is a bug persay, im using an intel integrated graphics and unity is runing in 2d mode due to no 3d support.. also i only have about 1gb of memory
[10:27] <TakeItEZ> xingle: boot from live-cd, compare the permissions of live-systems /etc and set those of your installation new. its a lot of work and you won't get all fixed. easier to reinstall the system
[10:28] <cub> so im really not sure if that has something to do with it, i was hoping i find some settings to  speed it up, that's about al
[10:28] <Michael_87> histo, yes. Unable to mount os. not authorized to perform operation
[10:28] <cub> i think the thing im talking about is called Dash..
[10:28] <Ben64> Michael_87: how are you trying to mount it
[10:28] <java_lfs> !topic
[10:30] <xingle> TakeItEZ:reinstall... Orz.. thanks.. :-(
[10:31] <ubuntuw1204> histo: if i remove dns-masque-base then do i have to set forwardinf etc
[10:31] <histo> ubuntuw1204: did you follow directions in the link I posted?
[10:31] <histo> Michael_87: How are you trying to mount the drive?
[10:31] <Michael_87> Ben64, going to file browser and then to os.
[10:32] <Hiro`> Hi I have different versions of a package (Ipython) installed. Is there a command that I can use that will uninstall packages *from a specific locatation*, whilst leaving other installations of the package untouched? Thanks.
[10:32] <histo> Michael_87: open a terminal.  Can you pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[10:32] <histo> !paste | Michael_87
[10:33] <histo> ubuntuw1204: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1313977  < The beginning of this thread explains the proceedure you just need to adapt to your situation.
[10:33] <Michael_87> histo, http://pastebin.com/PqbP3jWQ
[10:35] <histo> Michael_87: okay mkdir /tmp/test && sudo mount /dev/sda3 /tmp/test
[10:36] <mvt007geek> .i am downloaded an ubuntu-12.04-preinstalled-desktop-armhf+omap4 .then i used "dd" to write image on sdcard.after that i connected sdcard to pandaboard.my pandaboard has a monitor connected to it.but it seems monitor is not working.so i decided to test pandaboard to make sure it is working well or not and i downloaded "validation" from pandasite.then i used "dd" to wrote validation on pandaboard but it need a serial port to show me the results.
[10:37] <Michael_87> histo, can't find /dev/sda3/tmp/test in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[10:37] <mvt007geek> but don't know how set serial port
[10:37] <QaDeS> hiyas. can somehone help me updating my CA certificates on ubuntu 10.04? newest ones are from 2011 :|
[10:37] <Michael_87> histo, hold on. I think I messed up on something
[10:37] <histo> Michael_87: okay you are having a typo.   mkdir /tmp/test && sudo mount /dev/sda3 /tmp/test
[10:37] <histo> Michael_87: there is a space between /dev/sda3 and /tmp/test
[10:38] <Michael_87> histo, cannot create directory `/tmp/test': File exists
[10:39] <histo> Michael_87: okay just do the second part now.... sudo mount /dev/sda3 /tmp/test
[10:40] <Michael_87> histo, according to mtab, /dev/sda3 is already mounted on /tmp/test
[10:40] <histo> Michael_87: okay ls /tmp/test
[10:40] <histo> Michael_87: or open a file browser and browse to /tmp/test
[10:40] <histo> see if you can see your files
[10:41] <Michael_87> histo, I'm there. Theres nothing in the folder
[10:41] <histo> Michael_87: pastebin the output of mount
[10:42] <Michael_87> histo, don't know how to do that
[10:42] <histo> Michael_87: in a terminal type the word mount press enter and pastebin the output
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> Michael_87  type mount|pastebinit and paste the url here
[10:43] <Michael_87> http://pastebin.com/KuPWWc6H
[10:43] <histo> Michael_87: also try mkdir /tmp/test2 && sudo mount /dev/sda5 /tmp/test2     You have an extended NTFS partition I wonder whats ont here.
[10:43] <Michael_87> MonkeyDust, I just go strait to the site
[10:44] <histo> Michael_87: okay well /dev/sda3 is not mounted according to that.  So sudo umount /dev/sda3   just to be sure.  Then sudo mount /dev/sda3 /tmp/test      Please pastebin any errors youare getting.
[10:46] <Michael_87> histo, it is sayying that the unmount command is not found
[10:46] <histo> Michael_87: it's not unmount its umount
[10:47] <Michael_87> histo, oh ok
[10:47] <histo> Michael_87: you can just copy and paste the commands i'm typing.  sudo umount /dev/sda3 && sudo mount /dev/sda3 /tmp/test
[10:47] <histo> Michael_87: actually pastebin the output
[10:48] <Michael_87> histo, it is sayying /dev/sda3 not mounted
[10:49] <histo> Michael_87: okay to what?  If you don't pastebin I can't see
[10:51] <Michael_87> histo, umount: /dev/sda3: not mounted
[10:52] <ubuntuw1204> histo: if i use firestarter will it help?
[10:52] <histo> Michael_87: okay did you do the command after the &&
[10:52] <histo> Michael_87: specifically the sudo mount /dev/sda3 /tmp/test
[10:52] <Michael_87> histo, yes same thing happened
[10:53] <histo> Michael_87: what's that?
[10:53] <Michael_87> histo, mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda3 is already mounted on /tmp/test
[10:54] <ubuntuw1204> histo: i accidently removed my network manager..
[10:54] <histo> Michael_87: hit ctrl+l  on that terminal to clear it.  Then copy and paste this:  sudo umount /dev/sda3 && sudo mount /dev/sda3 /tmp/test    Then please pastebin the entire output including your commands
[10:56] <ubuntuw1204> now how do i connect to internet..
[10:56] <ubuntuw1204> histo:
[10:56] <histo> ubuntuw1204: why did you remove network-manager?
[10:56] <Michael_87> histo, http://pastebin.com/W0iRZRpw
[10:57] <ubuntuw1204> histo: accidental , no intention whatsoever
[10:57] <histo> Michael_87: now browse to /tmp/test with your file browser
[10:57] <histo> ubuntuw1204: okay well sudo apt-get install network-manager  to reinstall it
[10:58] <ubuntuw1204> histo: how do i connect internet
[10:58] <histo> ubuntuw1204: well if you install network-manager you can use that. If not you'll have to edit files manually or use some other connection manager.
[10:58] <Michael_87> histo, tmp/test folder still empty
[10:59] <Beluga> Any Canon printer gurus? Trying to help my neighbor: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2106696 So close and yet so far..
[10:59] <AlanBell> cub: you could try going to the settings panel and in the privacy area turn off online searches in the dash, to see if that speeds things up for you.
[10:59] <cub> ok
[10:59] <cub> ty
[10:59] <histo> Michael_87: okay sudo umount /dev/sda3 && sudo mount /dev/sda5 /tmp/test
[11:00] <AlanBell> cub: do you have any third party lenses installed or just the standard ones?
[11:00] <RELOL> hi
[11:00] <histo> Michael_87: after running that check /tmp/test again
[11:01] <RELOL> i want to associate tar.md5 files with Xarchiver
[11:01] <RELOL> but program doesn't appear in Open with... tab
[11:01] <ubuntuw1204> Beluga: i use a canon printer
[11:01] <AlanBell> cub: the other thing to do is use the launcher more, drag commonly used icons out of the dash and onto the launcher, then you don't have to wait for the dash to open to get to them as they are pinned to the launcher
[11:01] <Michael_87> histo, I need to get going. thank you for your time But I guess I'll figure this one out later. good bye
[11:02] <RELOL> I'm unable to open tar.md5 with file-roller since last update
[11:02] <cub> yeah, its just mostly that like for example
[11:02] <Beluga> ubuntuw1204: do you have a 64-bit system?
[11:02] <cub> i might have 2 or 3 chrome browsers running, and when i want to switch between them i have to click the icon which then takes a second to load a "window preview"
[11:02] <cub> idk if it's just my system, or if this is how it is with all of them..
[11:02] <cub> just dont like how it is slow
[11:03] <MonkeyDust> cub  better use tabs instead of different instances
[11:03] <Taneb> I upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and now my computer won't boot
[11:03] <ubuntuw1204> Beluga: once you converted the rpms you can add printer manually and then search for the driver manually by typing the model number
[11:03] <cub> MonkeyDust, does everyone experience this behavior on unity?
[11:04] <Beluga> ubuntuw1204: I first added it in the CUPS web admin interface, totally fine, except that the jobs completed without actually printing any real paper
[11:04] <MonkeyDust> cub  guess nobody browses the way you do
[11:05] <Beluga> ubuntuw1204: then I found the amazing French tuto and replaced the ia32-libs with the 11.10 version, but still no luck. I'm currently not at my neighbor's, but trying to do research before I go back
[11:05] <ubuntuw1204> Beluga: i faced that similar problem until you get the right driver it will behave that way.. <the printer gets added and every time you print the job complete without print>
[11:05] <lcabreza> anybody has an idea how to assign a specific button for scrolling?
[11:05] <cub> MonkeyDust, that's a ridiculous assertion. It's not just browsers, it can be multiple terminals, or anything else for that matter
[11:06] <histo> cub: What sort of behavior are you seeing exactly?
[11:06] <Beluga> ubuntu1204: thanks.. did you use alien to convert from rpm or did you use that .deb supplied by M. Gruz on launchpad?
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> cub  i guess not many people use multiple instances of the same program
[11:06] <cub> histo, it's just laggy
[11:06] <ubuntuw1204> i used alien
[11:07] <cub> i never had this problem on XP or Ubuntu 10.04
[11:07] <histo> cub: you could try a different desktop environment.  Unity may be a little bloated for your specs.
[11:07] <cub> so i'm almost thinking it's a hardware problem
[11:07] <cub> that's what im thinking
[11:07] <bipul> !apm-emulation.h
[11:08] <MonkeyDust> cub  if that's the case, you should consider using a lighter DE
[11:08] <ubuntuw1204> Beluga: you have to select the drivers manually from the list of models and you have to select the correct model otherwise it will not work
[11:08] <ubuntuw1204> Beluga: did you install the deb using sudo dpkg
[11:09] <Beluga> ubuntuw1204: as I can give calibrate command to the printer, doesn't that mean that the driver is correct?
[11:09] <ubuntuw1204> Beluga: and if it installed without error then i am sure that you can print..
[11:10] <Beluga> ubuntuw1204: I had no errors.. Used "Add printer" in the CUPS interface and selected the correct model
[11:10] <ubuntuw1204> Beluga: just remove the printer and repeat the process as i have told you.. and it will be fine..
[11:10] <Beluga> ubuntuw1204: I also did the procedure described in the French tutorial, which had  ccp://localhost:59787 as the location
[11:10] <Beluga> I mean the peripheral
[11:11] <ubuntuw1204> Beluga: no ... thats ok you will get the correct model i am talking of correct drivers..
[11:11] <Beluga> ubuntuw1204: I used the correct ones from Canon's website
[11:11] <cub> yeah i was thinking that histo , i do have those kind of de's installed but was hoping to get this working
[11:12] <cub> i would probably need to upgrade my system :\
[11:12] <ubuntuw1204> Beluga: i know you have the right drivers..
[11:12] <histo> cub: Why not use a DE or software that's more fitted to your hardware rather than upgrading hardware just to run unity.
[11:13] <RELOL> I'm unable to open tar.md5 with file-roller since last update
[11:13] <Beluga> ubuntuw1204: maybe I should sudo dpkg -r the drivers and try the Gruz ones
[11:13] <ubuntuw1204> Beluga: i have canon mf 3010 the scan doesn't work but print works
[11:13] <cub> i need to upgrade it anyways, just having had the money to... I installed Linux to begin with due to a hard drive failure that held my windows install
[11:13] <ubuntuw1204> Beluga: just sudo dpkg -i
[11:17] <Hiro`> I have duplicate installations of a package. Can anyone tell me how to remove one and leave the other still installed? Thanks
[11:17] <histo> Hiro`: apt-get remove packagename    They shouldn't be named the same. If they are you have other issues.
[11:19] <Hiro`> When you say that they shouldn't be named the same, are you including the path in with the name?
[11:19] <Hiro`> Basically I have three copies of Ipython installed in different locations. They're all called Ipython as far as I can see.
[11:20] <histo> Hiro`: how did you install them?
[11:20] <fabrizio> ciao
[11:21] <Hiro`> histo: IIRC just using apt-get install. Not sure how I've ended up with several installations.
[11:21] <histo> Hiro`: please pastebin the outptu of dpkg -l | grep ipython
[11:22] <tuxgeek_> man apt-get
[11:22] <Hiro`> It's less than a line of text. Do you still want me to pastebin it?
[11:23] <histo> Hiro`: no under 4 lines is fine here
[11:24] <Hiro`> histo: ii  ipython        0.12.1+dfsg-0u enhanced interactive Python shell
[11:24] <histo> Hiro`: Okay why do you think you have 3 versions installed?
[11:25] <vitimiti> o/
[11:26] <TaZeR> hey boys im workin it on ubuntu!
[11:26] <TaZeR> ive never felt so free in my life
[11:27] <TaZeR> ubuntu rocks my world day and night
[11:27] <Hiro`> histo: I seem to have an instance in /usr/bin/ipython, one in /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/IPython/ and one in /usr/local/bin/ipython.
[11:28] <An_Ony_Moose> I tried installing gtk-sharp2 but it failed during the configuration of this package: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1551600/ resulting in unmet dependencies. Are the packages buggy somewhere or am I doing something wrong?
[11:29] <histo> Hiro`: okay well the stuff in lib isn't a seperate package. I would also assume that /usr/local/bin/ipython may be a symlinked to /usr/bin/ipython also and not be a seperate package.
[11:30] <histo> Hiro`: in a terminal what's the output of which ipython
[11:30] <histo> Hiro`: type:  which ipython
[11:30] <Hiro`> histo: I have weird buggy errors in IPython, such as needing to exit IPython and restart it in order to get it to run updated scripts. I asked on the IPython channel and they seemed to say that I had conficting installs.
[11:31] <MonkeyDust> !find sharp2
[11:31] <Hiro`> histo: /usr/local/bin/ipython
[11:32] <Nicktttnameertyu> hi
[11:33] <Nicktttnameertyu> is there a way to set autohide with unity without a delay?
[11:33] <histo> Hiro`: and the output of ls -l /usr/bin/ipython
[11:33] <Nicktttnameertyu> I set autohide but there is a delay to autohide, I want to reduce this delay, ty
[11:34] <Hiro`> histo: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 495 Apr 22  2012 /usr/bin/ipython
[11:34] <Hiro`>
[11:34] <histo> Hiro`: and ls -l /usr/local/bin/ipython
[11:36] <Hiro`> histo: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 304 Dec 12 19:53 /usr/local/bin/ipython
[11:37] <Wulf> When there is someone else logged in to my system (e.g. via ssh), I cannot shutdown or reboot the system. How can I change this setting?
[11:37] <bekks> Wulf: sudo shutdown and you CAN shutdown your system.
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> Wulf: if you run:   sudo shutdown -r now      does it reboot ok?
[11:38] <Wulf> I don't want to explain my users how to open a terminal
[11:38] <Wulf> ActionParsnip: yes
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Wulf: ctrl + alt + t   too hard?
[11:39] <Wulf> yep ;)
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Yikes
[11:39] <Wulf> I don't want a workaround, I want a fix for the problem
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> Wulf  if you're using ssh, then you're already in a terminal
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Wulf: are there bugs reported?
[11:40] <__Hackuin__> Hello people.  :]
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> And monkeydust is right
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> Hi __hackuin__
[11:40] <Wulf> the "user" is not using ssh or terminals
[11:40] <An_Ony_Moose> MonkeyDust: odd, why doesn't gtk-sharp2 appear in the list?
[11:40] <__Hackuin__> 12.04 never restart/shut-down!!
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> Wulf: is there a message on screen when the reboot attempt is made?
[11:41] <Wulf> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/838792 looks similar
[11:41] <histo> Hiro`: that's bizaare
[11:41] <Hiro`> histo: how so?
[11:41] <histo> Hiro`: I would remove the /usr/local/bin/ipython
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> __hackuin__: occasional reboots are good, specially during maintenance windows
[11:42] <bekks> histo: Why not just rename it?
[11:42] <xkernel> how to install myunity in Ubuntu 12.10?
[11:42] <histo> bekks: He wanted to remove the other versions
[11:42] <An_Ony_Moose> I tried installing gtk-sharp2 but it failed during the configuration of this package: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1551600/ resulting in unmet dependencies. Are the packages buggy somewhere or am I doing something wrong? Also: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1551641/
[11:42] <ActionParsnip> ! Info myunity
[11:42] <histo> bekks: that one was installed by him not the deb
[11:43] <bekks> histo: Hmm, ok.
[11:43] <cub> !info myunity
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> Xkernel: http://askubuntu.com/questions/203709/how-do-i-install-myunity-on-12-10
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> Xkernel: guess how I found that ....
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> Wulf: any messages onscreen when the user reboots the OS?
[11:44] <Wulf> ActionParsnip: when the user is logged in, he is logged out. When he is in the lightdm there is no message
[11:45] <ActionParsnip> Xkernel: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=myunity+quantal+ppa    simples
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> <3 the duck
[11:46] <xkernel> thanks ActionParsnip
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Wulf: I recommend reporting a bug. You could setup a test OS and use gdm instead of lightdm, see if it happens there
[11:46] <Hiro`> histo: over on the #ipython channel, they told me to remove that and /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/IPython/
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> Xkernel: no worries,  the web is full of how to guides. Try searching.  If you come up blsnk then ask :)
[11:47] <Wulf> ActionParsnip: I'll try that
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Monkeydust: its nearly all I use these days
[11:47] <mikodo> I want to copy my /home to backup. Using cp to copy to a partition on an external drive, would this be OK and I assume it would make the backup directory for me in the external drive partition: cp /home/mikodo -r /media/<UUID>/home/mikodo
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Wulf: but do run:   ubuntu-bug lightdm      and report the issue
[11:48] <Wulf> ActionParsnip: I linked the bug report above
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Mikodo: could use grsync as an alternative
[11:48] <bekks> mikodo: No. cp -r will not necessarilly preserver all permissions, I recommend using rsync -av
[11:49] <mikodo> bekks, OK, i'll study rsync
[11:50] <BlackDex> Hello there...
[11:50] <cub> brb
[11:50] <BlackDex> my ubuntu keeps logging me out when starting or using some programs
[11:50] <BlackDex> like, when i start vlc it logs me out
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Blackdex: have yoy tested your RAM? If you make a new Ubuntu user, is it the same?
[11:52] <BlackDex> ActionParsnip: Ah. thas a good one.. new user :)
[11:52] <atlef> !nomodeset > atle
[11:57] <Hiro`> histo: either way, my next question is: how do I uninstall it? If I run apt-get remove ipython, how will it know which install to remove?
[11:58] <BlackDex> ActionParsnip: testing ram now
[11:58] <BlackDex> other user crashed also
[11:59] <histo> Hiro`: if you do that it will remove the one in /usr/bin/ipython
[12:00] <Ben64> Hiro`: could you pastebin the result of "dpkg -S /usr/bin/ipython; dpkg -S /usr/local/bin/ipython"
[12:00] <Hiro`> histo: I'd guessed as much.
[12:03] <Hiro`> Ben64: In order: ipython: /usr/bin/ipython; dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/local/bin/ipython.
[12:03] <esy> Hi, I installed Dropbox, but when I open it it says "Couldn't access Dropbox folder"
[12:03] <esy> Where's the problem?
[12:04] <Ben64> Hiro`: well the 2nd one you installed not with apt-get, so you'll have to undo that somehow
[12:04] <Hiro`> Ben64: how do I go about doing that?
[12:04] <Ben64> depends how you installed it
[12:04] <MonkeyDust> esy  try sudo chown [username]:[username]
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> esy  try sudo chown [username]:[username] ~/Dropbox    <-- correction
[12:05] <esy> Ok
[12:06] <Opica> Hi! Quick question, i need to format the system disk, i only have a usb stick availabile and a very slow internet connection. Does anyone know of a utility i can setup on my usb drive that would only format the system disk
[12:06] <esy> Didn't work MonkeyDust :(
[12:06] <Hiro`> Ben64: Unfortuately, I don't remember installing it! I'm not sure why I would need to have a second install or how it ended up on my system.
[12:06] <mikodo> I just read what I typed. Should have been cp -r. Thanks ActionParsnip and bekks I'll look into rsync -av   grsync always threw too many errors for my liking. Good day!
[12:06] <esy> I tried both Ubuntu repositories and Dropbox .deb and the error is the same.
[12:06] <bekks> Opica: How do "formatting the system disk" relate to "slow internet access" and why do you want/need to format something?
[12:06] <esy> "Can't access Dropbox folder"
[12:07] <Opica> bekks: I'm selling my old computer in an hour and i forgot to format the disk. downloading a linux img would take more than an hour :)
[12:07] <esy> I'll try to reinstall it and do it again.
[12:08] <bekks> Opica: There is no faster way rather than downloading an image.
[12:09] <Sgt_Shultz> Opica,  DSlinux
[12:09] <esy> Should I do "sudo apt-get install dropbox" or install its .deb?
[12:10] <esy> I use 12.04 btw.
[12:12] <Opica> Sgt_Shultz: thanks
[12:12] <Sgt_Shultz> I Know Nothing ....
[12:13] <koinandable> hello, is there a user-friendly way for text-to-speech output of pdf files similar to balabolka windows software?
[12:14] <Sgt_Shultz> "pdf to speech linux" is a good google search
[12:15] <MonkeyDust> koinandable  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TextToSpeech
[12:15] <feng> 第一次在这样的icr
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Esy: sudo apt-get install nautilus-dropbox
[12:15] <feng> quit
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Koinandable: gnome-orca maybe
[12:16] <mikodo> Would this command make the destination directory in the Ex. drive partition for me, or do I need to have the destination directory in it first?    sudo rsync -av /home/mikodo /media/<UUID>/home/mikodo
[12:16] <koinandable> ok ty, will check this out
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Esy: is there a ~/Dropbox folder already?
[12:17] <bekks> !cn|feng
[12:21] <TBG> Hi all, I just install Ardour Beta 3.5 on Ubuntu 12.10 after getting a new laptop. Everything seemed to go okay but when I start Ardour and make a new project Ardour tells me that is can't make the project file in that folder. The folder is my home folder by the way and I have checked that I own it, its in my group all of the permission belong to me.
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> Tbg: I suggest you report a bug. The app is beta
[12:21] <Dion> Is anyone on right now?  Strange though I had 3.5 Beta on 12.10 on my last laptop
[12:23] <kostkon> TBG, did you try to create a folder in your home and save it in there?
[12:23] <Dion> When I had to reboot, the screen glitched up and froze, and any reboots wouldn't load Ubuntu, just this "?" symbol.
[12:23] <TBG> kostkon, yep
[12:24] <kostkon> TBG, same error?
[12:24] <Sgt_Shultz> ummm, formatting a mac is not stupid..
[12:24] <TBG> kostkon, yep
[12:24] <kostkon> TBG, hmm
[12:24] <Dion> And to be honest, I'm not sure what to do right now to fix it.
[12:24] <TBG> kostkon, yes indeed
[12:24] <Sgt_Shultz> Dion, can your boot from usb ?
[12:25] <mikodo> bekks,    sudo rsync -av /home/mikodo /media/<UUID>/home/mikodo   will make destination directory?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> Dion: what would 'fixed' constitute?
[12:25] <Dion> I have a CD, and I can boot from it. Sort of.
[12:25] <bekks> mikodo: No. Create the target before copying.
[12:25] <Dion> Well, being able to actually access Ubuntu from regular boot.
[12:25] <mikodo> bekks, Alright Thanks!
[12:26] <TBG> Ooooh I proberbly need to reboot as I have not been added to the group that ardour is in yet
[12:26] <Sgt_Shultz> Dion, What MACrap is it ?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Dion: what video chip do you use?
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Tbg: just log off and on, same as Windows
[12:27] <Dion> Just a regular MacBook. I believe it's Nvidia? I didn't memorize it and I can't exactly check right now.
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Dion: add the boot option: nouvea.blacklist=1
[12:28] <Sgt_Shultz> dion, also if ubuntu boots, is install not available when booted ?
[12:29] <Dion> Not sure what you're asking. I installed Ubuntu over the OSX, and when I boot from the CD again, it says it indeed installed the Ubuntu, but when I try to boot normally, it doesn't boot Ubuntu, just pops up a file image with ? on it.
[12:30] <kubanc> is it possible to disable keyring in 12.10?
[12:30] <Dion> Oh, almost forgot to mention- the CD I used was 11.10. Is that vital? Should I have gotten 12.10?
[12:30] <TBG> dang it how it just disappear
[12:30] <TBG> s
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Kubanc: set a blank keyring password and it won't bother you
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> Tbg: launch it from terminal,  the output may help
[12:31] <TBG> Yeah just doing that
[12:32] <kubanc> ActionParsnip, where can i change password?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Kubanc: in dash search for 'password'
[12:32] <Dion> No? Nobody?
[12:32] <TBG> Hay what is the command to run Ardour from the terminal?
[12:32] <kubanc> ActionParsnip, password and keys?
[12:32] <MonkeyDust> TBG  try ardour&
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Dion: did you try my suggestion?
[12:33] <TBG> Cool thanks
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Kubanc: yes
[12:33] <Sgt_Shultz> Dion, lastest version is best, but on mac issues, a google search, "osx ubuntu install issues" gave me understanding
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Tbg: not obvious?
[12:33] <dpurgert> ouch ... a blank keyring ... ?
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> Sgt_shultz: best is subjective
[12:33] <raheel_com88> Hi
[12:34] <Dion> Well, I'm not aware of how to add a boot option, sorry.
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Dpurgert: just the password,  the keyring will be populated
[12:34] <raheel_com88> Any one can help me with rpl command??
[12:34] <Sgt_Shultz> ActionParsnip, yes true, but it is what i am using
[12:34] <TBG> I have tried, ardour, ardour3, ardour35, 3.5
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Dion: then asking that would be the next intelligent step, right
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Tbg: use TAB to complete commands
[12:35] <dpurgert> ActionParsnip, too early :) ... still blank passwords are bad news
[12:35] <Dion> I keep getting results talking about failed dualboots and the like, but I'm having a hard time finding something on the topic of actually writing over OSX.
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Dpurgert: given but it stops it asking
[12:35] <TBG> Tried did't get tab complete
[12:35] <Sgt_Shultz> Dion, can you boot cd live, no hd ?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> ! Bootoption | dion
[12:36] <Dion> I can use Try Ubuntu from the CD if that counts.
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Tbg: I suggest you install the ardour stable version,  beta software is not for the lay user
[12:36] <dpurgert> ActionParsnip, true -- but assuming the PC is trusted ... jsut set the keepalive for longer (e.g. 4 hours) ... it's still a bandaid to the "annoying" need to input the password
[12:36] <raheel_com88> hello
[12:36] <TBG> And double tabbing ar dose not suggest ardour
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Dion: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1   and it should help
[12:37] <dpurgert> and it's not as bad as leaving it wide open...
[12:37] <Sgt_Shultz> Dion, that should give you the option to install
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Dpurgert: if there is only one user then its not quite as bad but its still not great
[12:38] <TBG> Nar it cool I'll figure it out, my audio interface is not showing up for some mouths so I am in no hurry
[12:38] <nep1x> hi. When I do install some package on my system with apt-get, how can I know the files and directories where the files are installed?
[12:39] <TBG> Heck Ardour 3 will probably be out by then
[12:39] <nep1x> thanks
[12:39] <Dion> Alright, trying to access boot options.
[12:39] <kostkon> nep1x, you don't need to know. why are you asking
[12:39] <dpurgert> ActionParsnip, definitely ... but still, assuming that keyring is "me" ... still feel better about it when it's not wide open ...
[12:39] <nep1x> just for curiosity
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Dpurgert: user still has to log in, this helps
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> Nep1x: they are all over, they don't just go to one folder
[12:41] <khaos> hi in my ubuntu 12.10 (asus laptop) i can change brightness with fn keys but I dont have notification for this change. Is there any way to fix that?
[12:41] <dpurgert> ActionParsnip, fair enough
[12:42] <nep1x> but that a mess!! I am just trying to understand how the software is install in this kind of system
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> Nep1x: common libs are installed once and loaded once in RAM unlike Windows which wastes resources with duplicated files and stuff in RAM
[12:42] <kostkon> nep1x, you only need to care about your home folder
[12:42] <Dion> ActionParsnip- Do I add -- before the boot option as the guide linked claims?
[12:42] <Dion> If I'm reading correctly?
[12:42] <kostkon> nep1x, that's the beauty of it
[12:42] <rekoil> hello
[12:43] <rekoil> i have a dm-crypt on a raid i've just finished growing
[12:43] <rekoil> i now want to make the crypt use the new space
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> Nep1x: how, lubs are put in the libs folder and binaries are in /usr/bin etc. If other apps need the same libs then they uee the ones already installed,  fewer and smaller updates and fewer resources used
[12:43] <rekoil> but i'm scared i'm gonna ruin something
[12:43] <rekoil> anyone have any experience growing crypts?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Nep1x: one folder for each app is a massive waste and very wasteful. How is a central store of oibs etc a mess?
[12:44] <rekoil> since the raid was 6tb in size (now 8tb) it is using a gpt partition table
[12:44] <rekoil> do i just delete the partition, create a larger one and off i go?
[12:45] <TBG> I just had to put the whole location in /opt/Ardour-3.0beta5_13072/bin/ardour3
[12:45] <bekks> rekoil: You dont need a GPT label for sizes like that.
[12:45] <Amhndu> Hi all
[12:45] <Dion> By the way, is wi-fi strength dependent on the OS? I actually have two laptops- one Acer, one Mac. The Acer keeps disconnecting a lot on both Windows and Ubuntu but the Mac has a very stable connection.
[12:45] <rekoil> bekks: msdos labels dont support partition sizes larger than 2tb do they?
[12:46] <Dion> So I thought maybe it had something to do with the laptop itself, but while I was using Ubuntu on it, the wi-fi was unstable as well again.
[12:46] <khaos> ActionParsnip, we have talked some days ago about no brightness in a laptop. I fixed the prob with acpi_osi=null. Now it works but there is no notification in Unity about chaning brightness. This is not a critical prob but is there any way to fix that? Unity OSI notifications?
[12:46] <nep1x> i guess that all libraries usually go to /usr/lib and bin to /usr/bin, and there is the first place where, by default, package manager looks when going to install something and need a library
[12:46] <nep1x> no no
[12:47] <bekks> rekoil: When going to have just one big filesystem on that drive, you dont need a partition table at all, technically :)
[12:47] <nep1x> i am not saying that...
[12:47] <rekoil> bekks: but i did, and i can't just remove it now can i?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> Nep1x: the package database tells the package installer what is installed,  if its already installed then its not downloaded
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Khaos: what make and model system
[12:48] <bekks> rekoil: No, you cant.
[12:48] <Sgt_Shultz> I lobotomized a macbook pro recently, with live cd install, VLC rules over itunes ..... it should work perfectly, using xubuntu here on acer 5733z & HP Dv6 no issues even fingerprint scanner working on hp
[12:48] <rekoil> bekks: :( so, do you know what i am supposed to do?
[12:48] <khaos> ActionParsnip, asus laptop with nVidia GEFORCE 610M 2GB + nvidia Hybrid (Running Bumblebee)
[12:49] <rekoil> do i delete the partition, create a larger one beginning in the same block and resize the crypt?
[12:49] <dpurgert> Dion, not the OS so much as the quality of the hardware...
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> Nep1x: its al about reducing effort,  data storage and RAM use. If Linux used the Windows model,  you'd have about 20 instances if python running
[12:50] <quick-> .msg nickserv identify aloo1aloo
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> Khaos: oh jeez, I wouldn't hold your breath for that.
[12:50] <Dion> dpurgert, then it would make sense Ubuntu would keep the Macbook's stable connection? I hope so.
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> Quick-: time for a password change
[12:50] <Dion> Alright! Opened boot options. Here I go...
[12:50] <quick-> ActionParsnip: I know :)
[12:50] <kostkon> quick-, and do it quickly :P
[12:50] <khaos> ActionParsnip, Ι didnt understand :( sorry
[12:51] <bekks> rekoil: Until now, I havent understood what you are going to do.
[12:51] <quick-> kostkon: i am done :)
[12:51] <dpurgert> Dion, yeah in theory -- drivers do affect it a little, but not to the point where it's blatantly obvious
[12:51] <nizor> hello
[12:51] <kostkon> quick-, fast enough :P
[12:51] <nizor> pls i need help
[12:51] <Dion> dpurgert, thank you.
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> Khaos: bumblebee is far from perfect, I bet it is an issue for a long while
[12:52] <rekoil> bekks: i have an (previously 6tb) 8tb disk in my system, with a 6tb partition on it, this partition is a crypt
[12:52] <dpurgert> what's up nizor?
[12:52] <rekoil> as in dm-crypt
[12:52] <nizor> i need to install vlc on my Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex....totally new beginner....pls
[12:52] <rekoil> i want the crypt to use all 8tb
[12:52] <nizor> fine dpurgert
[12:52] <bekks> rekoil: there are no 6/8tb disks, you have a raid setup :)
[12:52] <TBG> I know why it does't show up in a locate search of a tab complete. the opt directory is not used anymore in Ubuntu so it is not in the system paths
[12:52] <rekoil> yes, but that is really irrelevant to the system :P
[12:52] <khaos> ActionParsnip, yeah I know that. But is there a manual way to enable the notification from Unity Notifications or something that? I saw some forums posts that many ppl have this similar problem without having the bubmblebee driver :)
[12:52] <rekoil> the system sees one disk
[12:52] <rekoil> it's a hardware raid
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Nixor: intrepid is EOL and has been for ages now
[12:53] <bekks> rekoil: And sorry, I never had any reason for messing around with encrypting filesystems.
[12:53] <kostkon> nizor, still on 8.10?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Nizor: ^
[12:53] <bekks> nizor: Whats the output of lsb_release -sc please?
[12:53] <quick-> kostkon:  Yup :D
[12:53] <dpurgert> nizor, that's unfortunately EOL  -- so not so sure if it can be helped ...
[12:53] <Dion> Inserted the configuration line nouveau.blacklist=1 Do I hit enter or esc or..?
[12:53] <rekoil> neither do i really, i just love experimenting with things
[12:53] <nizor> yes kostkon
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> Nizor: I suggest a clean install if Precise.  It is LTS and supported til April 2017
[12:54] <nizor> wana start with that
[12:54] <bekks> nizor: 8.10 isnt supported for a very long time now.
[12:54] <quick-> hi , I cannot find my bluetooth device even after hcitool dev command. Please help.
[12:54] <kostkon> nizor, i don't think you will ever manage to install the latest version of vlc on it. a much older version maybe
[12:54] <TBG> And yep as I suspected it is a Jack related issue
[12:54] <Dion> Alright, booting...
[12:55] <Dion> Finally!
[12:55] <Dion> Is it permanent, or can I only do this using the disk and the boot option?
[12:56] <TBG> Will look at it more later, thank for the help all
[12:56] <dpurgert> Dion -- you need to have changed the boot option on grub for the PC ... in theory that's what the guys had you do already, so it should be permanent...
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Dion: no, get updated and install the nvidia-current package,  you'll be ok thereafter
[12:57] <Dion> I'll try if the connection finally stabilizes.
[12:57] <quick-> how can i remove the system proxy fot apt-get .I am using 12.04  LTS and i have removed it from the network connections and also from the /etc/apt/apt.conf but still it says connecting to proxy but i am not using the proxy now
[12:57] <Sgt_Shultz> Dion,complete, update,  a reboot would answer that
[12:57] <Dion> Will Update Manager help?
[12:58] <Dion> Damnation, the wi-fi just won't connect! It was perfect while it was OSX, it should be hardware-based... Da fuck?
[12:58] <Dion> Pardon my language.
[12:59] <dpurgert> Dion, no -- you have to get the nVidia binary (should show up as some option ... I forget which though (intel gfx that "just work(tm)" here)
[13:00] <dpurgert> Dion -- check that the driver is installed/working, and that you've actually told the OS to connect to your wifi
[13:01] <Dion> It registers the network and all, I've entered the password, but it keeps struggling to connect and repeatedly asks to connect again.
[13:02] <Dion> At last! It connects! Stay connected...
[13:02] <Dion> Found the driver options, installing newest NVIDIA drivers.
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Dion: the wifi is always hardware based, it needs a n antenna.  How do you get software based WiFi?
[13:03] <Dion> That's 173, right?
[13:03] <Sgt_Shultz> I dont wonder why anymore why when i walk past a macshop, why there 30 red shirts & a 100 idiots asking silly questions, UPDATE DRIVERS
[13:03] <bekks> Dion: We dont know which version you are seeing there.
[13:04] <Dion> Version 173 is latest, correct? It's what it's offering.
[13:04] <sogeking99> Hey guys, I am having problems with screen tearing on Ubuntu 12.04. This is very noticeable on videos. I have tried VLC, Totem and gplayer. XBCM seems to not have the issue, but I would rather not have to use that player
[13:04] <bekks> Dion: No, it isnt.
[13:04] <rekoil> bekks: so ignore the encrypted filesystem, how do i grow a partition without regard to filesystem at all on a gpt label?
[13:04] <dpurgert> Sgt_Shultz, because the redshirts are "geniuses" or some such.  on the upside, we can all live with the hope that they'll be the first to go
[13:04] <Dion> Annnnnd it disconnected.
[13:04] <rekoil> because from what i'm reading the crypt will take care of itself
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Sgt_shultz: people don't mind paying that bit more to know what they have will work
[13:05] <rekoil> i just need to enlarge the space available to the crypt
[13:05] <bekks> rekoil: It will not expand itself.
[13:05] <Dion> Well, we're using a router.
[13:05] <phoenixsampras> Halp!! what is something like photoshop??
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Dion: get fully updated, I recommend a wired connection
[13:05] <rekoil> the crypt will once i've decrypted it and told it to resize, it will use the block devices total capacity
[13:05] <kostkon> phoenixsampras, gimp
[13:05] <Dion> Well, I only see options for 173 or (version current).
[13:05] <rekoil> i just need to expand that
[13:05] <phoenixsampras> but gimp sucks, must be something more pro?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> Dion: you still didn't answer about 'hardware wifi' being a thing
[13:06] <bekks> rekoil: Then just use gparted
[13:06] <rekoil> but parted keeps complaining it doesn't detect a filesystem
[13:06] <rekoil> (headless server)
[13:06] <Note> Hello, does anybody know what sasl2-bin package is?
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> Dion: install the nvidia-current package and it will be fine
[13:06] <Sgt_Shultz> ActionParsnip, yes they told me that for the lisa & classic, still waiting
[13:06] <Note> I am trying to install Cyrus and it tells me to get the package sasl2-bin - however, upon doing apt-get install sasl2-bin - it says Unable to locate package sas12-bin
[13:06] <dpurgert> ActionParsnip, hardware is (was) OK under the original OS.  Sounds like it might be the driver acting up...
[13:06] <Note> Does anyone know where i can get this or what it does
[13:06] <rekoil> all i want to do is manipulate the partition map, change partition 1s mapping from 64mb-6000gb, to 64mb-8000gb
[13:07] <Dion> Alright. And someone here said that wi-fi is based on the hardware, not the OS.
[13:07] <llutz> Note: sasl2-bin     two-bin not sastwelve
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Dion: they don't knoe what they are talking about. Probably a mac user
[13:07] <rekoil> Error: Could not detect file system.
[13:07] <Note> llutz, huh?
[13:07] <rekoil> that's what parted says
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Dion: every WiFi is hardware based but you still need a driver to tell the OS how to use it
[13:08] <Sgt_Shultz> Ps.. my ardrone has same specs as original ac only more storage onboard
[13:08] <Sgt_Shultz> mac
[13:08] <llutz> !info sasl2-bin | Note
[13:08] <khaos> ActionParsnip, yeah I know that. But is there a manual way to enable the notification from Unity Notifications or something that? I saw some forums posts that many ppl have this similar problem without having the bubmblebee driver :)
[13:08] <rekoil> ah
[13:08] <Dion> Moved it closer to the router, it reconnected. Downloading version current driver now. Hopefully it stays up long enough...
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> Sgt_Shultz: what is 'lisa & classic' please
[13:08] <rekoil> apparently gdisk can do what i want
[13:09] <Note> llutz, so why can't i install it?
[13:09] <Note> it unable to locate packaghe
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Khaos: do you have libnotify-bin installed?
[13:09] <llutz> Note: lsb_release -sc
[13:09] <Sgt_Shultz> original mac was a "lisa", classic is original 128 meg mac
[13:09] <sogeking99> Hey guys, I am having problems with screen tearing on Ubuntu 12.04. This is very noticeable on videos. I have tried VLC, Totem and gplayer. XBCM seems to not have the issue, but I would rather not have to use that player
[13:09] <khaos> ActionParsnip, yes the sound notifications also works like a charm. only in screen brightness there is no notification
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Dion: a wired connection will help. Fully updating will help lots
[13:10] <Dion> You know what's ironic? I'm on the Acer right now, which is usually misbehaving with the wi-fi, but it's surprisingly stable right now. Of course, I probably jinxed it just now...
[13:10] <Note> llutz, i run that then type apt-get install sasl2-bin
[13:10] <Note> ?
[13:10] <llutz> Note: lsb_release -sc        what is the output?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> Khaos: not sure then, are there bugs reported?
[13:10] <Note> llutz, quantal
[13:10] <khaos> ActionParsnip, i will search again in the ubuntuforums and I will add a bug if there is not something similar
[13:11] <llutz> Note: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install sasl2-bin
[13:11] <Sgt_Shultz> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Lisa
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> Sogeking99: did you set different video output methods in vlc?
[13:11] <Dion> Does anyone here use the Opera browser?
[13:12] <Dion> Any opinions on it?
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> Sgt_Shultz: thanks
[13:12] <sogeking99> ActionParsnip, no, what are there?
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> Dion: irs great
[13:12] <Sgt_Shultz> the looked like a kaypro cpm box (monitor & drives in a "portable" box
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> Sogeking99: in prefs, rather than just throwing in more apps, try changing the settings
[13:13] <Note> llutz, great, thank you very much
[13:13] <Dion> I used to use Firefox, but it's become rather laggy and bloated, so I switched to Chrome... which quickly fell to the same fate. I tried Opera, and... well, I love it.
[13:13] <Note> The following NEW packages will be installed:
[13:13] <Note>   sasl2-bin
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> Dion: then use it if you think its great. Why did you even ask?
[13:14] <ithinktoomuch> ithinktoomuch - I have a 3g HSPA modem - Huawei which works only through the usb2.0 and not on usb3. I have tried usb_modeswitch and all kinds of solutions, but it is not working. lsusb on usb3 shows 12d1:1446 but on usb2 it shows 12d1:140b
[13:14] <Dion> Nobody ever talks about it. I was concerned that maybe there was some godawful flaw to it or something.
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Ithinktoomuch: why do you want to use usb3
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> Dion: some dislike it as it's not open source
[13:15] <Comps_> i had to copy my data, to drobox, reinstall windows thanks to ubuntu's grub.... lost alot large data...
[13:15] <Dion> Ah, I see. Well, I'm not troubled by that, so that's good.
[13:15] <ithinktoomuch> @ActionParsnip - i have one usb2.0 port which is so close to the power socket that i cannot charge the laptop and use the internet together and it's very irritating at times
[13:15] <Sgt_Shultz> firefox, needs to clened occasionally to keep it trim
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> Ithinktoomuch: gotcha, is the system a desktop?
[13:16] <Comps_> i wont be usding ubuntu again...
[13:16] <Dion> Sgt_Shultz, I do clean it often, but lately it seems like it doesn't help as much, or the fox jumped in the mud right away.
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> Comps_: want a cookie?
[13:17] <ithinktoomuch> @ActionParsnip - lenovo g580 laptop
[13:17] <Comps_> ActionParsnip, grub killed my windows
[13:17] <Sgt_Shultz> Dion, java is the crim, r u usin NOSCRIPT and have JAVA disabled ?
[13:17] <sogeking99> ActionParsnip, Do you mean the output setting?
[13:18] <Sgt_Shultz> windows needs to die ....
[13:18] <Comps_> i ab downloading over 200gbs cause of ubuntu insall aside of windows option
[13:18] <Comps_> am*
[13:19] <Comps_> it killed any options to boot windows right
[13:19] <Dion> Sgt_Shultz, I use Adblock. Used to use a script blocker, but it was indiscriminate and messed up a lot of things for me, so I tried to compromise. And I agree, Microsoft needs to keel over someday.
[13:20] <Comps_> linux would be great, if drivers where supported,, look up bigfoot killer 2100 no linux driver
[13:20] <Dion> lol @ people who give up at the first error. Linux OSes are great, but you're gonna have to work a little for it.
[13:20] <llutz> Comps_: do you have any ubuntu support-related question? if not, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:20] <Comps_> not when grub breaks mbr..
[13:21] <MonkeyDust> Dion  people want to do an effort to get used to anything, but linux
[13:21]  * PatrickDickey has an *buntu related support question. :)
[13:21] <ikonia> PatrickDickey: then ask it instead of telling us you have a question
[13:21] <Dion> Comps_, mbr breaks are actually rather common, and surprisingly easy to fix. Just google it.
[13:21] <Comps_> i did,, never got support, had to lose data.
[13:21] <rekoil> bekks: gdisk sorted it out
[13:21] <rekoil> all good now :)
[13:21] <Sgt_Shultz> Dion, windows was always a single user system, made to adapt to www, where linux was built for www ....
[13:21] <Comps_> i did, problem is, its gpt..
[13:22] <PatrickDickey> Would a failing hard drive cause kernel panics? I was having issues with ubuntu, so I reinstalled with Lubuntu (both 12.10 and 12.04.1) and started getting random kernel panics. I installed Fedora, and had the same problem.
[13:22] <Comps_> grub killed my gtp
[13:22] <bekks> PatrickDickey: Maybe.
[13:22] <Sgt_Shultz> you buy windows @ kmart
[13:22] <bekks> PatrickDickey: Just check your harddrive and your RAM.
[13:22] <ikonia> PatrickDickey: io problems are a common cause of panics
[13:22] <k-joseph> hi every one, when i shrink some volume from the partition that has ubuntu installed, do i loose any data from it, is it dangerous thanks a lot
[13:22] <rekoil> Comps_: a partition is a partition, regardless of partition table, those kinds of errors can mostly always be solved, tools like testdisk help
[13:22] <Comps_> dion, i was here all last night stuck in ubuntu.
[13:23] <PatrickDickey> Well it's different processes and it's something along the lines of a SMP bug. (I can't remember the exact wording).
[13:23] <rekoil> i wonder how long fsck will take to run on a 6tb partition :P
[13:23] <hacker> hi
[13:23] <Comps_> any thing i did, bootrec would not show windows installsion path:/
[13:23] <mvt007geek> what is the best way to write an arm image (ubuntu) into sdcard? i used dd but serial port doesn't show it and it don't boot when i put sdcard in pandaboard. is there a good software to do that?
[13:23] <dpurgert> PatrickDickey, boot off a livecd so you can run fsck on the HDD ... the memtest86 boot option is OK to test your ram (though, as with anything else here -- there's probably a handful of other utils)
[13:23] <Guest55036> please help xbmc keeps crashing ubuntu 12.10
[13:23] <ikonia> PatrickDickey: SMP is kernel multiprocessor support, but a panic is normally a long set of lines so you maybe missing the key words
[13:24] <auronandace> rekoil: only one way to find out :)
[13:24] <ikonia> Guest55036: is there an xmbc ubuntu package ?
[13:24] <hacker> how to install backtrack 5 on unbuntu 12.10
[13:24] <ikonia> !info xmbc
[13:24] <dpurgert> Comps_, did you happen to format the hdd?
[13:24] <Guest55036> yeah
[13:24] <bekks> dpurgert: fsck will not helpon investigating hdd errors, but just filesystem errors.
[13:24] <k-joseph> hi every one, when i shrinksome volume from the partition that has ubuntuinstalled, do i loose any data from it, is it dangerous thanks a lot
[13:24] <rekoil> auronandace: damn, should have run time on it
[13:24] <Dion> Comps_, did you accidentally overwrite Windows instead of dualboot?
[13:24] <auronandace> hacker: not supported
[13:24] <Sgt_Shultz> comps, did you scandisk, defrag, windows before partitioning ?
[13:24] <rekoil> :P
[13:24] <hacker> how to install backtrack 5 on unbuntu 12.10
[13:24] <rekoil> just gonna have to remember when i started
[13:24] <Guest55036> i navigate through the menus and then it crashes and wont recover
[13:24] <PatrickDickey> One of the messages was general protection fault: 0000[#1] SMP It looks like it was kswapd that caused that one.
[13:24] <rekoil> i know that growing the raid took about 4 days
[13:24] <Comps_> dion, its just grub killed my gpt bootcode
[13:24] <dpurgert> bekks, ugh, I'll get the util right eventually ... :|
[13:25] <mvt007geek> what is the best way to write an arm image (ubuntu) into sdcard? i used dd but serial port doesn't show it and it don't boot when i put sdcard in pandaboard. is there a good software to do that?
[13:25] <Comps_> i have a uefi..
[13:25] <Comps_> ohhh
[13:25] <ikonia> hacker: backtrack 5 is not something to be installed "inside" ubuntu
[13:25] <rekoil> though i suspect that would have gone quicker had i activated write-through before starting
[13:25] <Comps_> ...
[13:25] <ikonia> Guest55036: what is the package name, I don't see it in the ubuntu repo
[13:25] <k-joseph> hi every one, when i shrinksome volume from the partition that has ubuntuinstalled, do i loose any data from it, is it dangerous thanks a lot
[13:25] <dpurgert> Comps_, did you tell it to use uefi-grub (or turn off UEFI in the BIOS)?
[13:25] <Comps_> grub killed my data, nothing ni did would make grub boot"windows 7"
[13:26] <Comps_> it did not let me
[13:26] <bekks> k-joseph: You may lose data when doing something wrong.
[13:26] <Comps_> i did not know
[13:26] <bekks> k-joseph: So create a backup before.
[13:26] <ikonia> Comps_: grub doesn't touch your data
[13:26] <Comps_> ubuntu fault, in my book
[13:26] <Sgt_Shultz> Google answer my questions "replacing windows boot code after linux"
[13:26] <ikonia> Comps_: your book is wrong
[13:26] <Comps_> no..
[13:26] <PatrickDickey> ikonia I've got a picture of part of one on my phone. Sometimes it was java that caused it, most of the time it was kswapd, and the last one was pulseaudio.
[13:26] <Dion> ^ Like I said... lol people giving up and whining at first problem.
[13:26] <Comps_> when u use live edition
[13:26] <ipv6hermit> hey guys, I just ran the update utility and it installed  new kernel and nvidia drivers... and as it might be  expected now the nvidia drivers are not loading
[13:27] <ipv6hermit> I ran sudo nvidia-xconfig, rebooted and still I don't think  the drivers are loading
[13:27] <ikonia> PatrickDickey: I doubt very much java would cause a kernel panic
[13:27] <ikonia> Comps_: grub does not touch your data in anyway
[13:27] <ipv6hermit> I run the nvidia x server settings utility adn it says "You  do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X Driver"
[13:27] <Comps_> to install. it should of used efigrub and not kill my boot:/
[13:27] <ikonia> ipv6hermit: gksudo nvidia-xconfig for x11 applications
[13:27] <Comps_> i know it didnt touch data
[13:27] <dpurgert> ikonia, he's complaining about "breaking" his win7 install because grub doesn't see it (apparently he's using UEFI - I still have an "open" motherboard, so no problems there ... not to mention no need to go back to another OS)
[13:27] <ikonia> Comps_: you just said it trashed your data
[13:27] <Comps_> it killed windows from booting again
[13:27] <Comps_> nope
[13:27] <k-joseph> bekks: will ubuntu stay on its partition workingwell? i have no much data that i fear loosing on the partition with ubuntu
[13:27] <Comps_> i said it killed my boot
[13:28] <Sgt_Shultz> run back to windows 8, colour boxes you can click on to get a your files, just like my Commodore64 geos system, very nostalgic
[13:28] <ikonia> 3:25 < Comps_> grub killed my data, nothing ni did would make grub boot"windows 7"
[13:28] <ipv6hermit> ikonia: I tried and rebooted, and it still doesn't work :(
[13:28] <Comps_> gpt boots are not repairable..
[13:28] <ikonia> Comps_: note the word "data"
[13:28] <ikonia> Sgt_Shultz: please, stop
[13:28] <ikonia> Comps_: I believe they are repairable
[13:28] <bekks> k-joseph: You may lose ALL data on your harddisk, depending on what you might do wrong. So create a backup before.
[13:28] <ikonia> Comps_: I've seen the guys in ##windows explain how to repair the efi boot process
[13:28] <PatrickDickey> ikonia, I'm guessing because that was the PID that it listed once. The one I'm looking at right now says CPU0 Pid: 30, comm: kswapd0 Tainted: G    W   3.7.2-2 (it's cut off at that point on my phone).
[13:28] <Comps_> then why bootrec shopw windows installs 0.
[13:28] <bekks> Comps_: I know the ARE repairable.
[13:28] <Comps_> hmmm
[13:29] <Guest55036> Its a package via the ubuntu software centre
[13:29] <Guest55036> if thats what you mean
[13:29] <ikonia> PatrickDickey: kswapd is the swapper
[13:29] <ikonia> Guest55036: what is the package called, I don't see it
[13:29] <ikonia> !info xmbc
[13:29] <ogist_> Please help. I just installed compiz-plugins-extra and the Animations Add-on is not showing up in the CCSM
[13:29] <Sgt_Shultz> I Know Nothing ....
[13:29] <Comps_> i was force go in live ubuntu copy my inportant docs/pics to dropbox
[13:29] <liam> lol
[13:29] <liam> quantal
[13:29] <ogist_> Please help. I just installed compiz-plugins-extra and the Animations Add-on is not showing up in the CCSM. I have reinstalled it and also I have rebooted.
[13:29] <liam> eff that
[13:29] <PatrickDickey> ikonia, I understand that. I'm saying at one point, that line was pulseaudio, another time it was java, and a few times it was kswapd0.
[13:30] <k-joseph> bekks: am not prepared for backup now, so cant i get guidance on how to it without any errors such that i dont loose data
[13:30]  * god ate his own heat
[13:30] <ikonia> liam: please stop with the trying to use bad lanuage
[13:30] <PatrickDickey> Is there a way to debug the crash?
[13:30] <ikonia> PatrickDickey: I suspect that's not actually the case,
[13:30] <god> eff
[13:30] <bekks> k-joseph: Then you do not have any important data, basically.
[13:31] <Dion> Deus, what a close shave! Finally installed driver, and then lost connection right after.
[13:31] <k-joseph> bekks: i have very uch important data on other partitions exept the one with ubuntu
[13:31] <Dion> Now installing the security updates and such. Any other drivers besides nvidia graphics I should install?
[13:32] <dpurgert> Dion -- probably the wireless card :)
[13:32] <rekoil> fsck is done... that was damn quick
[13:32] <Comps_> my windows isnt mbr, its gpt, uefi board, grub turned it to mbr, made so windows repair wouldnt work i used boot-repair, restored, gpt mbr default. got repair to see it, bootrec would not fix it.):
[13:32] <bekks> k-joseph: When you are "not prepared to have a backup" you do not have ANY important data. So create abackup beforesomething might goes wrong.
[13:32] <rekoil> i really really want to eliminate those 64mb prior to the start of the crypt
[13:32] <Dion> dpurgert is that Broadcom STA?
[13:32] <bekks> Comps_: Even on GPT, you always have a MBR.
[13:32] <rekoil> i wonder if there might be a way to do that
[13:32] <Comps_> but bootrec would not see it
[13:33] <Dion> Comps_ do you even know what MBR stands for?
[13:33] <Comps_> google search said uefi to old br cant be fixed
[13:33] <dpurgert> Dion, I dunno -- what wireless card is installed in the system?
[13:33] <bekks> Comps_: Which doesnt affect that fact that the is a MBR on EVERY harddisk.
[13:33] <Comps_> master boot record
[13:33] <Comps_> duh
[13:34] <Dion> Comps_ Exactly. Think about it.
[13:34] <ogist_> does ubuntu 12.10 not have the fire effect?
[13:34] <Comps_> the part i dont get is windows repair cant fix once grub touchd it:/
[13:34] <ogist_> i downloaded compiz-plugins-extra and the animations add-on is not showing up
[13:34] <Dion> dpurgert It's the only wireless driver it's offering, so I think it's safe to say that's the one.
[13:35] <Comps_> i fixed many mbrs, just never since uefi eh..
[13:35] <dpurgert> Dion, works for me :)
[13:35] <k-joseph> bekks: thanks alot,
[13:35] <ipv6hermit> I run sudo modprobe nvidia, and it says... FATAL: Module nvidia_current not found.
[13:35] <Dion> Of course, I can't download it until it reconnects... looks like I'm waiting here until it does.
[13:35] <Comps_> grub wont boot windows on my uefi
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> Comps_: still around?
[13:36] <Comps_> yup.
[13:36] <rekoil> how long does resize2fs take normally? is this a long process?
[13:36] <ikonia> rekoil: depends, there is no set time
[13:36] <bekks> rekoil: Yes, maybe.
[13:36] <PatrickDickey> ikonia out of curiosity, is there a way of debugging the kernel panic after it happens?
[13:36] <ActionParsnip> Comps_: asked in #grub ?
[13:36] <rekoil> ok :/
[13:37] <Comps_> good idea
[13:37] <Comps_> i will yap at them
[13:37] <rekoil> growing from 6tb to 8tb now
[13:37] <ikonia> PatrickDickey: it's a specialist skill, it's not "basic"
[13:37] <ogist_> can anyone answer me?
[13:37] <ogist_> im running ubuntu 12.10
[13:37] <rekoil> really wish i knew what i know now when i setup this raid :p
[13:37] <ogist_> compiz is not showing the animations add-on
[13:37] <ogist_> the settings manager
[13:37] <ogist_> i followed the instructions
[13:38] <ogist_> i just wanted the burn effect :)
[13:38] <Dion> I recall reading that it was strongly suggested to NOT use compiz on Ubuntu.
[13:38] <PatrickDickey> I may get a different drive anyhow. It's an older drive (and only 320GB). So it's probably time to upgrade anyhow.
[13:38] <wNz> I think compiz is default on ubuntu
[13:38] <ikonia> ogist_: be aware a lot of the plugins won't work with unity running as it is a compiz plugin itself
[13:39] <ogist_> E: Unable to locate package compiz-fusion-plugins-main
[13:39] <ogist_> E: Unable to locate package compiz-fusion-plugins-extra
[13:39] <ogist_> ikonia
[13:39] <ikonia> ogist_: that means the package you want does not exist
[13:39] <nabblet> hi, when i do minimal install and choose no packages in the install process - will the intall have dhcpcd?
[13:39] <ogist_> i know
[13:39] <ikonia> hence the error "does not exist"
[13:39] <ogist_> ikonia: are you familiar with compiz?
[13:39] <ikonia> ogist_: why are you trying to install it if it doesn't exist then
[13:39] <Dion> Oh good, wireless driver installing rather quickly.
[13:39] <ogist_> ikonia: there are tons of websites telling me that it does exist
[13:40] <ogist_> where did it go
[13:40] <ogist_> i installed compiz-plugins-extra
[13:40] <compdoc> nabblet, you mean ubuntu server?
[13:40] <ogist_> and there is no animations add-on
[13:40] <ikonia> ogist_: it doesn't exist in your ubuntu version, probably because it doesn't work with unity
[13:40] <ogist_> ah ok
[13:40] <Comps_> can i install ubuntu with out using grub?
[13:40] <ogist_> so ubuntu 12.10 sucks
[13:40] <ikonia> Comps_: no
[13:40] <BlackDex> ActionParsnip: I have fixed my random logout.. it seemed to be bad xorg.conf or drivers.. removed the xorg.conf and reinstalled the video drivers... everything is working now
[13:40] <ikonia> ogist_: don't use it then
[13:40] <ogist_> i should have installed 12.04
[13:40] <Sgt_Shultz> xubuntu
[13:40] <ikonia> ogist_: 12.04 still uses unity
[13:40] <Comps_> then so i cant dual boot:/
[13:40] <ogist_> ikonia: what's your problem,?
[13:40] <PatrickDickey> ogist_ You can always install a different desktop that uses the animations.
[13:40] <ikonia> ogist_: I have no problem
[13:41] <ogist_> ikonia: you are acting like a little faggot
[13:41] <PatrickDickey> Comps_ why can't you dual-boot?
[13:41] <ikonia> ogist_: you don't like 12.10, don't use it
[13:41] <ikonia> it's a simple problem/solution
[13:41] <Comps_> grub wont boot windows on my board:/
[13:41] <rekoil> ok, resize2fs didn't take too long either
[13:41] <rekoil> awesome!
[13:41] <Dion> Excellent! The driver warning disappeared after I installed the wireless driver. Guess that means I got them. So the nvidia graphics and wireless is all I needed? Then the Update Manager updates and then reboot?
[13:41] <ikonia> Comps_: it will you just have to set the efi stuff up
[13:41] <rekoil> all in all, 4 days >.<
[13:41] <Dion> Just making sure.
[13:41] <rekoil> stupid raid reconstruction
[13:41] <dpurgert> Dion, sounds about right :)
[13:41] <Comps_> ikonia, can u walk me thru?
[13:42] <rekoil> thanks for the help guys
[13:42]  * rekoil fires up bouncer
[13:42] <ikonia> Comps_: not personally no, the guys in ##windows can possible do it, I've seen them fix a lot of EFI issues
[13:42] <Comps_> i just dont want break windows this time:/
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> Blackdex: sweet
[13:43] <Comps_> i am just trying get ubuntu, cause my new job needs it.:/
[13:43] <PatrickDickey> If I remember right (Comps_ and ikonia), uEFI will let you pick the operating system, and if you choose Windows, it will load the windows bootloader, if you choose Linux, it will go through Grub. I could be way off on that though.
[13:43] <Dion> You guys are very helpful, thank you. I'll report if it worked after all after it updates all 487 (dear god).
[13:43] <DereC> hi guys, try to stop kernel updates, ive tried to pin kernel version but it doeasn help, will removing unnatended updates help me to stop kernel updates?
[13:43] <Comps_> my dont
[13:43] <pindol> how can i reed m4v with ubuntu?
[13:43] <Comps_> its msi uefi
[13:43] <PatrickDickey> Comps_ is there any reason why you can't use Ubuntu in a virtual machine?
[13:43] <ikonia> Comps_: repeatig the same thing over and over, won't change anything
[13:43] <ikonia> repeating
[13:43] <Comps_> i rather get full power?:/
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> Comps_: could virtualize Ubuntu
[13:44] <Sgt_Shultz> Comps, version of windows ?
[13:44] <Comps_> windows 7 ult
[13:44] <Comps_> 64 bit
[13:44] <Dion> Wow, wireless driver certainly helped. It's staying connected.
[13:44] <Sgt_Shultz> hehe
[13:44] <Comps_> was 540$
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Dion: sweet,  get fully updated
[13:44] <dpurgert> actually, linux (any variant) isn't that bad in a vm ... trouble is you don't get hardware access (as easily)
[13:45] <xsumi5> Hey everyone, I have an odd problem with Ubuntu 12.10.
[13:45] <Comps_> i am wanting pci access level.
[13:45] <dpurgert> xsumi5, what's up?
[13:45] <Dion> actionparsnip In the process of doing that. 487 updates.  Maybe people will help you more if you stop crying and listen!
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Dion: yes, its a fresh install
[13:46] <xsumi5> If I plug in a set o headphones that has vol control and a mic the keyboard will stop working.
[13:46] <ikonia> Comps_: again - not ubuntu's issue, you have picked a hardware platform that requires a specific boot config
[13:46] <ikonia> Comps_: ubuntu does support that option if you set it up correctly
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> Dion: ever clean installed xp?
[13:47] <Comps_> thats i been asking for:/
[13:47] <radek_> radek
[13:47] <xsumi5> If I plug in a standard set of headphones without a mic or vol control it works
[13:47] <radek_> co tam
[13:47] <Comps_> i never had efi before
[13:47] <ikonia> Comps_: and I've told you what to do, get your windows setup working again
[13:47] <xsumi5> If I plug the standard headphones before the headphones with a mic and vol control that works too
[13:47] <ikonia> Comps_: then move to install ubuntu
[13:47] <Dion> ActionParsnip I did that on the Acer to replace Windows 7 (it was being very troublesome). That's how I busted my MBR for the first time, haha.
[13:47] <dpurgert> ActionParsnip, yeah ... but unlike ubuntu (or anything sane for that matter) it doesn't touch the internet til the offline installers for SP# get installed
[13:47] <ikonia> Comps_: the guys in ##windows will help you get your windows efi boot setup back
[13:47] <Comps_> i lost that one, i am fresh new copy.
[13:47] <radek_> fuck
[13:48] <Dion> Or clean install meant otherwise..?
[13:48] <ikonia> radek_: unacceptable language, please don't do that
[13:48] <Comps_> just want to install ubuntu aside windows not mess up mbr 3rd time:/
[13:48] <xsumi5> It seems that Ubuntu is getting the wrong driver / module / etc when I plug in the Logitech UE200 headphones in first.
[13:48] <dpurgert> Dion, "clean install" as in "fresh off the CD"
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> Dpurgert: assuming they are accessible offline
[13:48] <PatrickDickey> !uefi | Comps_ have you read this page, by chance?
[13:48] <ikonia> Comps_: you've said that mulitple times
[13:49] <dpurgert> ActionParsnip, have my own set of USB keys for that (joys of being the family IT guy ;))
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> Dpurgert: same, plus its my job
[13:49] <Dion> dpurgert Alright. Then I don't think that applies.
[13:49] <WotWhere> am trying to install a 3G DataCard for ntwk access .. the default program that was bundled for a gui is asking for qt3 runtime library..
[13:49] <WotWhere> I have already updated the Qt4 package from the packmanager..
[13:49] <WotWhere> I used Unity's naetwork connection manager to configure the mobile Broadband setings and it works.. am using it right now
[13:49] <WotWhere> But, do want to have the softwares gui.. for easier troubleshooting.. anyone?
[13:49] <xsumi5> I have a work around by plugging in a standard pair of headphones then my Logitech headphones.
[13:50] <xsumi5> It's just annoying
[13:50] <Dion> Here's to hoping Ringtail will be as amazing as they claim. 12 wasn't exactly impressive. I like some of the new features they're previewing though.
[13:50] <Comps_> so i have ubuntu 64 bit usb installer, that ok?
[13:50] <ikonia> Comps_: 64bit is fine, 32bit is fine
[13:50] <Comps_> so i use something esle this time?
[13:50] <dpurgert> ActionParsnip, Windows administration?
[13:51] <ikonia> Comps_: what do you mean ? something else
[13:51] <ikonia> Comps_: is there a reason you are ignoring what's been said to you and just repeating the same thing over and over
[13:51] <thec4ke> WotWhere: try installing libqt4-qt3support
[13:51] <bekks> Comps_: No, just use the 64bit installer.
[13:51] <Dion> I have a feeling this is going to become a Not Always Right story.
[13:52] <xsumi5> It's Ubuntu 12.10 64bit
[13:52] <Comps_> ikonia, shhhh, i been reading the page, stop ur insaults:/
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Dpurgert: noc engineer for all kinds of jazz including windows, esx, unix and Windows.  Now I'm a Unix/Linux engineer starting a week monday (excited)
[13:52] <ikonia> Comps_: I'm not insulting you, are not listening though
[13:52] <Comps_> i never used efi before, dont have to say its easy, its not:/
[13:53] <xsumi5> efi errrrr
[13:53] <ikonia> Comps_: no-one said it's easy
[13:53] <daftykins> EFI setups = latest hurdle for users
[13:53] <ikonia> which is adding no value
[13:53] <xsumi5> had issues with that on this laptop
[13:53] <ikonia> Comps_: however you are just repeating the same information over and over
[13:53] <WotWhere> thec4ke:  just installed all packs with QT4 in the name.. do i need to restart?
[13:53] <xsumi5> what's the prob with efi
[13:53] <thec4ke> WotWhere: probably not
[13:53] <Comps_> -.-
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> Wotwhere: can't hurt to try
[13:54] <itsrachelfish> uh hi #ubuntu
[13:54] <xsumi5> I had an issue with efi and the uefi bios on this laptop.
[13:54] <varikonniemi> after installing kde the screen goes to sleep with kde:s settings also under unity.. how can i change this?
[13:54] <WotWhere> ok restart it is
[13:54] <PatrickDickey> xsumi5 Comps_ is trying to dual-boot Windows and Ubuntu, but it won't let him boot into windows.
[13:54] <itsrachelfish> I just updated to 12.10 and ccsm no longer has options for alt + tab or the ring switcher
[13:54] <itsrachelfish> what gives
[13:54] <xsumi5> The first install of 64bit ubuntu didn't go well so I tried to use 32 bit and the laptop would no longer see the thumb drive
[13:54] <swarfega> erm ive just had a system notification that 13.04 is out and im downloading it
[13:55] <dpurgert> ActionParsnip, sounds good.  soon as I get the time/money, I'm gonna have my own stuff to maintain at home -- figure I'm gonna be living here for a while, might as well do it right
[13:55] <ikonia> swarfega: you have not
[13:55] <PatrickDickey> itsrachelfish they might not be compatible with Unity.
[13:55] <swarfega> :o
[13:55] <itsrachelfish> I'm not using unity
[13:55] <xsumi5> Thanks Patrick
[13:55] <swarfega> what is it then?
[13:55] <ikonia> swarfega: the only way you would get that notifiction is if you have configured your system for development use, eg: changed your sources.list
[13:55] <xsumi5> Does it only go into Ubuntu
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Dpurgert: definitely :-)
[13:55] <ikonia> or run update-managed -d
[13:55] <swarfega> so i should cancel this?
[13:55] <itsrachelfish> And I had the ring switcher/alt tab options in 12.10 on my other laptop
[13:55] <itsrachelfish> where did it go?
[13:56] <PatrickDickey> xsumi5 you'll have to ask Comps_ I don't know.
[13:56] <Dion> Comps_ You know how sometimes there's this one customer who keeps screaming "I want a small meal!" without specifying what he wants in it and just keeps repeating without giving even a hint to what he actually wants in the small meal? Yeah, you're doing that right now. Backtrack, think of other details you could give them so they can actually figure out what's wrong?
[13:56] <swarfega> ok i cancelled the install
[13:56] <PatrickDickey> swarfega do you have your updater set to notify you for every new version? ANd as for cancelling it, if you're at the point where it's actually *doing* the upgrade, then no.
[13:57] <swarfega> im not sure but it was only just downloading the files so it hadnt changed anything
[13:57] <biopyte> hi, can someone confirm: oracle java 7 update 11 is broken?! (only updated last week). info on the web is rare. https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/mydeveloperworks/blogs/34c80da0-8974-4ac6-83c1-6b72eab6d13e/entry/red_alert_java_7_update_11_confirmed_to_be_vulnerable_researcher?lang=en    anyway, the firefox plugin is disabled.
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> Dion: updates going ok?
[13:58] <ikonia> biopyte: no, we can't confirm this, this is ubuntu support, oracle support java, not ubuntu
[13:58] <Sgt_Shultz> disable JAVA
[13:58] <biopyte> most of you won't bother, but for some applications a working oracle java is essential.( unfortunately)
[13:58] <PatrickDickey> biopyte I read something about that on Sopho's facebook page. but, I haven't dug into it  at all. Either way, you're better off with Update 11 than anything earlier.
[13:58] <ikonia> biopyte: I'm using Oracle java as I need it, but as I said, Oracle maintain java - not ubuntu, so ubuntu can confirm nothing
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Biopyte: I don't even use it :-)
[13:59] <Dion> ActionParsnip - Taking forever, barely any progress, but the connection's going strong thankfully so I can wait it out. ...unlike the one I'm on right now.
[13:59] <Sgt_Shultz> but homeland secruity can ...
[13:59] <Dion> Let me see if I can get on here on the other one.
[13:59] <biopyte> ok guys, i know "i dont use java, its crap anyway"
[13:59] <biopyte> not the point here
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> Dion: let it have irs fun :-)
[13:59] <PatrickDickey> I've got one of those applications installed. CrashPlan backup. It shows up as java in my system monitor, but it's their service or their desktop engine.
[14:00] <dpurgert> Sgt_Shultz, they can neither confirm nor deny any allegations made ...
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> Biopyte: not that its crap, I just have no use for it
[14:00] <Dion> Oh dammit. Connection went down after all.
[14:00] <biopyte> anyway, java 7-11 on firefox is disabled.  .... ridiculous
[14:01] <PatrickDickey> biopyte https://isc.sans.edu/diary/Java+7+Update+11+Still+has+a+Flaw/14983
[14:01] <biopyte> so, you are lucky that i told you  :-)
[14:01] <dpurgert> Dion, aw ... guess the driver is still touchy (did you happen to restart after installing it?)
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Biopyte: did yoy install it via ppa?
[14:01] <Sgt_Shultz> dpurgert,  JAVA never unistalls itselfs, millions of system with older copies, phones, Android based on it, i dont think it over ....
[14:01] <Dion> Dpurgert - It said it was already enabled, only graphics driver needed restarting. I guess it does need restart after all.
[14:02] <biopyte> Action, no i installed manually
[14:02] <bipul> How to Disable IP redirects in ubuntu
[14:02] <sawyer_> why was twinkle removed from Ubuntu repositories?
[14:02] <dpurgert> Sgt_Shultz, well, yeah ... java is a pain to get rid of at times.
[14:02] <ikonia> bipul: there are no ipredirect enabled by default
[14:02] <biopyte> Action, do you think it would make a difference?
[14:02] <sawyer_> i googled for a good while but couldn't find a reason (or indication it had actually happened)
[14:03] <PatrickDickey> biopyte it doesn't matter. If it's java (anything other than IBM's version) it's still affected.
[14:03] <itsrachelfish> hey #useless, the answer was  sudo apt-get install compiz-plugins-extra
[14:04] <bipul> ikonia,  can you please tell me in more details about IPredirect and why it is not enabled in ubuntu. :)
[14:04] <ikonia> bipul: because it's not needed by default
[14:04] <PatrickDickey> itsrachelfish you didn't try that before?
[14:04] <hylian> i need to install the libSDL 32 bit libraries, but I am running Ubuntu 64bit, and don't see an option in synaptic for anything other than libsdl1.2debian, which is already installed... can i install the 32 bit version somehow?
[14:04] <biopyte> Patrick, i think so too, its disabled by firebox and thats it ... game over  ... by the way, the firefox guys dont answer the question in their channel
[14:04] <bipul> !ipredirects
[14:04] <ikonia> hylian: you don't want to to that as it will overwrite the 64bit libs and cause a problem
[14:04] <biopyte> anyway ...
[14:05] <itsrachelfish> PatrickDickey: I didn't because no one suggested it :>
[14:05] <Dion> Did I miss anything? Had to run something.
[14:05] <vifanq> Apt-cache - how to obtain this effect without grep: apt-cache search a | grep 'file manager' - because apt-cache search 'file manager' returns some extra stuff
[14:06] <PatrickDickey> biopyte They're probably taking the same position that we are. That it's not their product. If you check the link I gave you (isc.sans.edu), they refer to the CERT advisory, which lists all of the affected vendors and versions.
[14:06] <hylian> ikonia: hmm, well i have a program called powder toy that is constantly giving me this error: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[14:06] <ikonia> hylian: that can also be a 64bit library
[14:07] <biopyte> Patrick, they should according to this page   https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p184
[14:07] <Dion> Eugh. Router itself's touchy too sometimes. Both laptops went down, had to reset the router.
[14:07] <Guest78498> Hi all, Q). Whats the best solution to desktop misconfiguration ? i was running 10.04 upgraded to 12.04 had a few issues i resolved but am now getting graphical glitches, effects cause crashes etc... i did a apt-get install --reinstall gnome-session, but i still getting issues, i need to stabilize the system as im not quite ready for rebuild..
[14:07] <hylian> ikonia: i looked up the error code, and according to the libSDL group, it means sdl isn't installed. Since it is installed, I asumed it meant that I need the 32 bit version...
[14:07] <ikonia> hylian: is that file on the system....?
[14:07] <biopyte> Patrick, actually it tells "Linux"  i wonder if windows is also affected ... probably
[14:08] <Sgt_Shultz> bipul, firefox & ghortery or anonymoX addons ?
[14:08] <fedeoro> ciao
[14:08] <PatrickDickey> biopyte everyone is affected. Java is write once run everywhere. it uses it's own Virtual Machine.
[14:08] <fedeoro> buona domenica a tutti
[14:08] <hylian> ikonia: are you asking me if libSDL is installed, or if powder-toy is on the hard drive? in both cases the answer is yes.
[14:08] <Sgt_Shultz> ghostery
[14:08] <fedeoro> list
[14:08] <Dion> Sgt_Shultz I use Ghostery. Should I be concerned?
[14:09] <ikonia> hylian: I'm asking you if the library it's complaining about is on your physical file system
[14:09] <Sgt_Shultz> Dion, bipul was looking for a ip changer i think ...
[14:09] <fedeoro> !list
[14:10] <shubbar> i need help recovering an hdd partitons, after using testdisk they are still showing zero size, they are ntfs
[14:10] <Dion> Sgt_shultz internet went down a bit so I missed the comment, saw you mention that, got concerned. Nevermind then.
[14:10] <hylian> ikonia: according to apt/synaptic, the answer is yes.
[14:10] <sawyer_> where can i find explanations on removed packages? (why they were removed, when, etc.)
[14:10] <ikonia> hylian: that's not what I asked
[14:10] <biopyte> Patrick, i wondered about one thing ... i cant even start locally the java console "file not found" ... so they have acces to my ubuntu box and delete files?
[14:10] <ikonia> hylian: I asked if the file it's complaining about is on your physical file system
[14:10] <hylian> ikonia: i guess then I don't understand the question.
[14:10] <hylian> ikonia: yes it is.
[14:11] <somsip> sawyer_: /var/log/apt/history.log
[14:11] <biopyte> that happened also recently with version 7 - 10
[14:11] <biopyte> today again
[14:11] <sawyer_> somsip, i mean by Ubuntu itself
[14:11] <PatrickDickey> biopyte no they can't delete files on your computer. All they can do is block it in their browser.
[14:11] <ikonia> hylian: where is it
[14:11] <sawyer_> i had a package that was removed, and it's no longer available in Ubuntu, i'm wondering what happened
[14:11] <hylian> ikonia: it's in /home/denny/powder/
[14:11] <ikonia> hylian: then it's not installed by apt
[14:11] <Sgt_Shultz> Dion, it all cool, 42 years in pc's tell me the numbers go up, i seen more ram than field of sheep, the hardware is cheaper, roll ubuntu 4 phones
[14:11] <PatrickDickey> which package sawyer_?
[14:12] <sawyer_> PatrickDickey, twinkle
[14:12] <ikonia> hylian: and that's why your software is failing as it won't be looking in /home/denny/powerder for dynamic librarie
[14:12] <somsip> sawyer_: If you mean a GUI to view the log, I don't know
[14:12] <biopyte> Patrick, but something happened to the files in the java folder ... usually you can start the java console locally ...
[14:12] <sawyer_> it used to be available, it no longer is, and i can't even compile it because of another package that was removed (libccrtp1)
[14:12] <hylian> ikonia: no, apt/synaptic has no version of "the powder toy" available. but this software has always run before i switched to 64 bit ubuntu.
[14:12] <sawyer_> somsip, i mean an application that Ubuntu removed from their repositories
[14:12] <ikonia> hylian: what you've just said makes no sense
[14:13] <biopyte> Patrick, to put it altogether , java is totally blocked , not only in firefox ....
[14:13] <ikonia> hylian: you said apt/synaptic said the library was installed, I asked you where and you said it's in place that apt-get would not install it to,
[14:13] <somsip> sawyer_: packages.ubuntu.org and links from there?
[14:13] <PatrickDickey> biopyte that's odd. what happens when you run java -version in a terminal?
[14:13] <hylian> ikonia: i used to run 32 bit ubuntu until about a month aqo, powder toy ran. Then i switched to 64 bit because I intend on installing more than 3.2 gb of ram, and now powder oy does not run,.
[14:14] <PatrickDickey> hylian did you install ia32libs?
[14:14] <hylian> ikonia: i thought you meant "the powder toy."
[14:14] <ikonia> hylian: what is the name of the file it's complaining about
[14:14] <sawyer_> somsip, you must mean packages.ubuntu.com, .org leads to something else altogether
[14:14] <hylian> libsdl
[14:14] <biopyte> Patrick, java version "1.7.0_11"     ... as normal
[14:14] <ikonia> hylian: no, that is not the name of the file
[14:14] <ikonia> hylian: give me the full name of the file
[14:14] <hylian> PatrickDickey: i don't know, i'll check it out
[14:14] <PatrickDickey> biopyte then java is working. It wouldn't have given you that, if it wasn't.
[14:14] <somsip> sawyer_: ok
[14:15] <hylian> ikonia: i don't know the name of the file.
[14:15] <ikonia> hylian: you do you gave it me earlier
[14:15] <sawyer_> somsip, so, as i was saying, this package was removed: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=twinkle&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all
[14:15] <sawyer_> it doesn't say *when* and especially **why** it was removed
[14:15] <ikonia> hylian: while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open
[14:15] <biopyte> Patrick, ok, but when i try to start the console from the ubuntu console i get an error .... but, anyway thats not so important
[14:16] <ikonia> hylian: come on - please put some effort in / follow what you're saying, it's impossible to help you if you're not giving correct details
[14:16] <hylian> ikonia: that's all it gives me, it never ends the error with the name of the file.
[14:16] <sawyer_> somsip, exists in Precise (http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=twinkle&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all), removed in Quantal (http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=twinkle&searchon=names&suite=quantal&section=all)
[14:16] <biopyte> Patrick, i mean the ubuntu menu in gnome classic
[14:16] <Dion> Hey guys, should I skip the software updates for now and restart for the driver updates, THEN do software updates? Is that safe to do? The cnnection is being horribly shaky and software update is failing a lot now.
[14:16] <ikonia> hylian: right, so I've asked you 3 times now "is that file on your system"
[14:16] <bipul> Can any one suggest me some good and working tcp server application. for ubuntu
[14:16] <ikonia> bipul: tcp server applications ??? what ?
[14:16] <ikonia> bipul: what do you want to do/achieve ?
[14:16] <PatrickDickey> sawyer_ http://askubuntu.com/questions/226360/ubuntu-12-10-how-to-get-sip-phone-twinkle-latest-version-working-using-deb-or they link to the removal bug there.
[14:17] <hylian> ikonia: how can I know if the file exists, if the error doesn't tell me what file it is or where it resides on the system?
[14:17] <bipul> ikonia, i am trying to do network emulation. and i need tcp server application.
[14:17] <ikonia> hylian: the error tells you the exact file name
[14:17] <ikonia> bipul: network emmulation ?????
[14:17] <ikonia> bipul: I'm sorry, you are making no sense
[14:17] <hylian> ikonia: no it does not. this is the error in it's entirety: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[14:18] <PatrickDickey> sawyer_ per http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=673900 They're retiring it upstream (in Debian), so that's why it's no longer offered.
[14:18] <ikonia> hylian: libSDL-1.2.so.0: is the file !!!!
[14:18] <ikonia> hylian: looks at the error " error while loading  shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0:
[14:18] <RawProduce> when I try to create a mysql user with:   GRANT ALL ON foo.* TO bar@localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'fizz';, I cannot login to the mysql console as that user -   changing localhost to the hostname resolves this
[14:18] <sawyer_> PatrickDickey, i see
[14:18] <bipul> Yes Network simulation-2 with network emulation.
[14:18] <ikonia> error while loading shared libraries: then it lists the library
[14:18] <RawProduce> why is this happening?
[14:18] <biopyte> Patrick, so tell the webupd8 buddy, that some work on the java installer is coming in again    ;-)
[14:18] <RawProduce> 12.04
[14:18] <sawyer_> PatrickDickey, thank you!
[14:19] <hylian> ikonia: ok, so then where does libSDL reside? I know it is installed via synaptic, because I looked for it in synaptic. but I have no idea where.
[14:19] <RawProduce> reason I'm asking in #ubuntu is because I haven't seen this behaviour with any other distro
[14:19] <ikonia> RawProduce: user@localhost = can only login from localhost
[14:19] <Dion> Anyone? Should I go ahead and restart after driver updates and do the software update after instead?
[14:19] <ikonia> RawProduce: because you've set th ehostname when you granted the permissions
[14:19] <PatrickDickey> No problem sawyer_.
[14:19] <sawyer_> have a great day!
[14:19] <RawProduce> ikonia: I am connecting from localhost
[14:19] <ikonia> hylian: do a search on the file system
[14:19] <Joshun> hi
[14:19] <Joshun> how do you import your own gpg key?
[14:19] <RawProduce> it's a server, I've SSH'ed in
[14:19] <hylian> ikonia, ok I will
[14:19] <Joshun> *locally that is
[14:20] <Joshun> so that it can be used
[14:20] <Joshun> under seahorse it isn't a 'personal' key even though its my key
[14:20] <bipul> ikonia, i am trying to animate live traffics packet's of two system on NAM (network animator). and i need any TCP server application which is best suited for ubuntu.
[14:20] <ikonia> bipul: a tcp application server makes no sense, sorry
[14:21] <bipul> oh ok i got it now.
[14:21] <PatrickDickey> RawProduce in your mysql configuration file, is the hostname set to localhost or a hostname? If it's set to just a hostname, then it doesn't recognize "localhost".
[14:21] <bipul> Thank you for you valuable suggestion.
[14:21] <ikonia> RawProduce: do mysql -u username -h localhost -p
[14:21] <ikonia> RawProduce: you will fine it works
[14:22] <alex_> hi! I am trying to install Ubuntu 12.10 in a HP Pavilion (http://bizsupport1.austin.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?objectID=c03529716&lang=en&cc=us&taskId=101&prodSeriesId=5322275&prodTypeId=321957). The hard disk doesn't appear on the installation process. I was reading about FakeRaids, but the solution seems extremely dangerous: http://askubuntu.com/a/198438
[14:22] <Sgt_Shultz> bipul, maybe a quick google 4 "ubuntu network traffic analyzer"
[14:22] <ikonia> RawProduce: if you don't want to force it to lock to localhost, then grant the permissions to user@% or user@the_host_name_you_want_to_lock_to
[14:22] <RawProduce> ikonia: hm, that does indeed work
[14:22] <PatrickDickey> I'm off. have a great day everyone. :)
[14:22]  * PatDickeyIsAway is now away - Reason : off to bed for a while
[14:22] <ikonia> !away > PatDickeyIsAway
[14:23] <bipul> Sgt_Shultz, :) Thank you.
[14:23] <RawProduce> PatrickDickey: I can't see any hostname parameters in my.cnf
[14:23] <ikonia> there won't be
[14:23] <ikonia> it binds to interfaces
[14:23] <RawProduce> bind-address?
[14:24] <ikonia> you don't need to worry about that
[14:24] <Tecan> https://github.com/asdfasdfsdfsdfsdf   lol move your mouse around over the 404 image it moves
[14:24] <ikonia> I've just explained the problem/solution to you
[14:24] <ikonia> Tecan: please don't post that sort of pointless stuff here
[14:25] <RawProduce> I don't quite understand how mysql -ufoo -p   doesn't default to localhost in the first place
[14:25] <RawProduce> that's the bit I'm having trouble understanding
[14:25] <ikonia> RawProduce: did you do "ssh localhost"
[14:25] <Dion> sgt_shultz Just restarted... crossed fingers, yeah?
[14:25] <ikonia> RawProduce: is the machines hostname "localhost"
[14:25] <RawProduce> ah
[14:25] <Dion> sgt_shultz IT WORKED! IT BOOTED UP INDEPENDENTLY!
[14:25] <ikonia> RawProduce: if not, why would it assume "localhost"
[14:25] <PatDickeyIsAway> Sorry about that ikonia. When I wake up, I'll fix that in my chat client.
[14:25] <dpurgert> good deal Dion :)
[14:26] <Sgt_Shultz> Dion, execellent !!
[14:26] <Dion> sgt_shultz now to test the connection and see if it fully updates correctly this time.
[14:26] <dpurgert> OK, this is interesting ...
[14:26] <Sgt_Shultz> my finger based spell checker is broke ...
[14:27] <dpurgert> only took a minute to compile this ... wow
[14:27] <hylian> ikonia: thanks for helping me. It's searching for the file, so I don't have an answer yet, but I have not left...
[14:28] <dan1726> hey, i'm have a bit of trouble with MySQL.. With the bind address.. i'm trying to connect to the server remotely so i set the bind address to <IP_ADDRESS>. Then in the python code I tried connecting to the ip address of the database server...
[14:28] <dan1726> is there something else i have to do?
[14:28] <ikonia> dan1726: I'm still waiting to hear the problem
[14:28]  * Sgt_Shultz falls off chair waiting 4 dion's progress report
[14:28] <ikonia> Sgt_Shultz: please stop with the annoying /me commands
[14:29] <RawProduce> alright, so on another server, why does this work:    # hostname --> dev,   GRANT ALL ON foo.* TO 'bar'@localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'something';   mysql -ubar -psomething
[14:29] <RawProduce> the hostname is not localhost
[14:29] <RawProduce> yet it connects assuming host=localhost
[14:29] <dan1726> the problem is when i try to connect to the database remotely.. I get a error while running my code..
[14:29] <ikonia> RawProduce: look at if dev is mapped to localhost
[14:29] <ikonia> dan1726: what error
[14:29] <Sgt_Shultz> ikonia,  only did 1
[14:29] <RawProduce> nope
[14:30] <RawProduce> <IP_ADDRESS> localhost     [external ip] dev
[14:30] <ikonia> Sgt_Shultz: yes, so please sto p
[14:30] <RawProduce> in /etc/hosts ^
[14:30] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:30] <ikonia> stop
[14:30] <WotWhere> trying to install qt3 runtime... to be able to use.. Mobile Broadband Gui.. the tar.gz that was bundled has an install.sh .. but when i try to install.. it asks for qt3 runtime libray... i have installed All of Qt4 through the gnome Update Manager.. but cannot find libqt4-qt3support anywhere on the fs
[14:30] <Dion> sgt_shultz You can relax now, connection is stable and update manager is working properly.
[14:30] <ikonia> RawProduce: do a show grants and see if it's got localhost as the higher grant in the order
[14:30] <Sgt_Shultz> good, dion
[14:30] <WotWhere> did a restart too..
[14:31] <Dion> Now I have a (nearly) perfect laptop!
[14:31] <daftykins> WotWhere: 'sudo updatedb' ... 'locate <x>' where x = thing to search for
[14:31] <hylian> ikonia: after installing ia32 as PatDickeyIsAway suggested, powder toy runs. so I am assuming the answer to your question is yes.
[14:31] <ikonia> hylian: no, the answer was no
[14:31] <ikonia> hylian: ia32 is 32bit compatability libs
[14:31] <ikonia> hylian: so you're removed the problem by installing the 32bit compatability libs
[14:31] <Sgt_Shultz> Dion, yes you stratch out the mac stuff
[14:31] <WotWhere> shudnt the <x> be on the fs
[14:31] <dan1726> error in the connections.py line 187, and in the __init__.py of the mysqldb package
[14:32] <dan1726> module **
[14:32] <WotWhere> ok will try that
[14:32] <hylian> ikonia: but libSDL1.2debian was installed, and synaptic never showed me an option for libSDL-1.2.so.0, so I am still confused..??
[14:32] <ikonia> dan1726: not really something of any use
[14:32] <ikonia> dan1726: try connecting manually with the mysql client to verify the connection, then move forward
[14:32] <ikonia> hylian: don't worry about it...
[14:32] <dan1726> i can connect with no problems to the localhost.. but not remotely
[14:32] <ikonia> dan1726: that's not what I said
[14:33] <hylian> ikonia: in either case, it appears my troubles are over, so thank you for helping me, and have a good day!
[14:33] <Dion> Sgt_shultz acer had good speed but shitty hardware, while mac had good hardware but extremely laggy and bloated. Now I have good speed and good hardware at last.
[14:33] <dan1726> okay i try thanks ikonia
[14:33] <ikonia> dan1726: the default users permissions are user@localhost, so unless you have granted permissions to the external host, you will be locked out
[14:33] <ikonia> Dion: please control your langauge
[14:34] <Dion> ikonia Apologies!
[14:34] <dan1726> how do i change the default i thought for reading the online... its the bind address
[14:34] <ikonia> not a problem
[14:34] <ikonia> dan1726: bind address is what address the daemon listens, it has nothing to do with permisions
[14:34] <Sgt_Shultz> Dion, Acer is industry crap, it has gone broke, been benq, a back 2 Acer, u get what u pay for
[14:35] <yeehi> I want to verify my SSD is using TRIM automatically. I don't know why I get this message: sudo hdparm --fibmap tempfile
[14:35] <yeehi> 0,18: device not found in /dev
[14:35] <Dion> sgt_shultz I was dead broke and in need of a new laptop. Hoped it was better than Dell at least. It was... but only slightly. Not good enough. Passable for games at least.
[14:36] <rom> hay i am on live cd, i lost my pastebin link, can someone please help me mount my hard disk??
[14:36] <ThinkT510> !mount | rom
[14:37] <lordievader> rom: Something like: sudo mount /dev/sdbX <path-to-mount> (replace X with partition number).
[14:38] <Sgt_Shultz> on a Acer 5377z here, in heat dv6 cooks eggs, $300 new + 42 = 8gb ram, format windows, install xubuntu, = fast laptop
[14:38] <daftykins> Sgt_Shultz: this channel isn't for general chat
[14:39] <Sgt_Shultz> daftykins, Sorry
[14:39] <Sw> Sgt_Shultz: social chat in #ubuntu-offtopic, by the way
[14:39] <Dion> sgt_shultz check private chats, I tried messaging you.
[14:40] <rom> thanks guys
[14:40] <cave> Hello!
[14:40] <Sgt_Shultz> no private chats, we all learn ubuntu here, the day i stop learning is the day I die ..
[14:41] <cave> I have a questione:
[14:41] <Sgt_Shultz> helpfull = asking
[14:41] <lordievader> !ask| cave
[14:41] <cave> Is it possible to change the style of Ubunto to Windows XP?
[14:42] <cave> (I have the newest version of Ubuntu)
[14:42] <MonkeyDust> cave  install an XP theme or so
[14:42] <daftykins> cave: there's a whole Linux distro whose sole purpose is to do that
[14:42] <sw> cave: Probably, but why on earth would you want to do that?
[14:42] <sw> !theme | cave
[14:43] <cave> I don't know ubuntu
[14:43] <cave> and a have use xp  several years
[14:43] <Sgt_Shultz> I suffered from DOS u get over it ..
[14:43] <rom> hay i am not getting a reply for sudo fdisk -l ??
[14:43] <tapout> echo "test" | egrep "[A-Z]"    <-- why does 'test' make it thru when looking for capitals?
[14:43] <compdoc> cave, it will never be very much like XP
[14:44] <Dion> cave Just try and adapt, learn about it, get used to it. Try to get over your Windows Addiction.
[14:44] <Dion> cave It's bad stuff.
[14:44] <compdoc> sometimes, you have to learn new things
[14:44] <ThinkT510> Sgt_Shultz: please stay on topic
[14:44] <MiningMarsh> tapout, iirc, the matching goes AaBbCc...
[14:44] <tapout> shouldn't the character class only do.. A..Z?
[14:45] <Sgt_Shultz> ThinkT510, ok
[14:45] <tapout> A-Za-z  should pick up 'test
[14:46] <rom> can someone help
[14:46] <MiningMarsh> tapout, I remember a similar issue, it was a pain to work out. Mine was just alternating, AaBbCc, so A-C would pick up AaBbC. It was some weird charset thing.
[14:46] <fmonroy> book run linux run based on ubuntu in spanish
[14:46] <fmonroy> http://aceptarocancelar.blogspot.com.es/2013/01/corre-linux-corre.html
[14:46] <rom> sudo  fdisk -l is not giving me any data?
[14:46] <lordievader> rom: What happens when you point it to the correct drive? sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb
[14:47] <bekks> rom: Take a look at dmesg, wether you have drives at all.
[14:47] <tapout>  export LANG='C'
[14:47] <tapout> MiningMarsh, thanks bro.. fixed it with LANG='C'
[14:47] <WotWhere> daftykins:   'sudo updatedb default locate <libqt4-qt3support>'
[14:47] <WotWhere> doesnt work with error unexpected newline
[14:48] <daftykins> WotWhere: you ran 'sudo updatedb' on its' own yes?
[14:48] <daftykins> WotWhere: try something less specific. 'locate qt3'
[14:49] <dpurgert> ugh, it's snowing :(
[14:49] <daftykins> dpurgert: apt-get remove snow
[14:50] <defer_> Is it possible to create a custom keymap for xubuntu?
[14:50] <dpurgert> daftykins, E: Unable to locate package snow
[14:50] <daftykins> dpurgert: :(
[14:50] <defer_> I want to map two special characters to one button
[14:51] <daftykins> dpurgert: should've been in the 'universe' repo ;/
[14:51] <dpurgert> guess the matrix has us running in a VM :|
[14:51] <jrib> defer_: in what way?  Using XCompose?
[14:51] <RawProduce> this is just nuts... now the exact same commands seem to work fine - GRANT ALL ON foo.* TO bar@localhost IDENTIFIED BY 'fizz';    mysql -ubar -pfizz --> logs in
[14:53]  * RawProduce gives up
[14:53] <Sgt_Shultz> defer settings/ keyboard ?
[14:57] <WotWhere> dfatykins: /usr/share/app-install/desktop/qt3-assistant:assistant-qt3.desktop
[14:57] <WotWhere> but.. locate qt4 | grep qt3
[14:57] <WotWhere> is empty
[14:58] <Euge_84> Hi
[14:58] <Euge_84> everyone
[14:59] <Euge_84> first time 4 me here
[14:59] <dpurgert> hi Euge_84
[14:59] <Euge_84> I am looking for muscles guys
[14:59] <Euge_84> are there any?
[14:59] <bekks> Euge_84: Not on freenode.
[15:00] <Sgt_Shultz> Except ALL ubuntu users ...
[15:00] <Euge_84> where
[15:00] <Euge_84> u know where bekks?
[15:00] <dpurgert> Euge_84, try spinach ... that seemed to help Popeye... :/
[15:00] <Euge_84> ok
[15:00] <bekks> Euge_84: I am not using dating networks, dating channels, etc. - this is a support channel.
[15:00] <Euge_84> thanks
[15:01] <WotWhere> locate qt3
[15:01] <WotWhere> /usr/share/app-install/desktop/qt3-assistant:assistant-qt3.desktop +
[15:01] <WotWhere> qt3-designer:designer-qt3.desktop + qt3-linguist:linguist-qt3.desktop + qt3-qtconfig:qt3config.desktop
[15:01] <WotWhere> Locate qt4 gives a bunch of stuff..
[15:01] <WotWhere> but No ...  locate qt4 | grep qt3
[15:01] <FloodBot1> WotWhere: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:01] <WotWhere> its empty
[15:02] <note_> hello, I'm following a tutorial on the ubuntu website to set up Cyrus with Postfix
[15:02] <note_> However, after completing all of the tutorial, I get to the last step and get this
[15:02] <note_> localhost> cm user.toto
[15:02] <note_> createmailbox: Permission denied
[15:02] <note_> does anyone know why?
[15:05] <llutz> note_: the user you used to login in cyradm is admin? (imapd.conf)
[15:06] <note_> llutz, i tried with 'root'
[15:06] <note_> so the answer would be yes?
[15:06] <llutz> note_: the user you used to login in cyradm is admin? (imapd.conf)
[15:06] <llutz> note_: cyrus admin, not root
[15:07] <note_> ah, i left admin in imapd.conf to cyrus
[15:07] <denebeim> Anybody up to fielding a nfs4 idmap issue?
[15:07] <note_> and i ran
[15:07] <note_> cyradm --user cyrus localhost
[15:07] <note_> is that correct?
[15:08] <dpurgert> denebeim, what's up?
[15:08] <llutz> note_: haven't used cyrus for a long time but i guess it is ok. what is the permissions of "/var/spool/imap/"
[15:08] <deadmund> I have a 7200RPM sata laptop harddrive.  It's attached to my _desktop_ using a simple USB adapter (480MB/s) I am using the "wipe" program to securely delete the data because I'm going to sell the HDD.  It's giving me ETA of 1week!  I don't want to wait that long.  I want this done in a few hours at the most.  What alternatives are there?
[15:09] <note_> there isn't a /imap/ within /var/spool/
[15:09] <WotWhere> need qt3 help
[15:09] <WotWhere> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1552365/
[15:09] <dpurgert> deadmund, how big is the HDD?
[15:09] <denebeim> okay, this is it, nfs4 ubuntu server debian client, NIS yp.passwd, when I mount a directory all the users are mapping to nobody/nogroup
[15:09] <deadmund> 320GB according to the case, 298GB according to gparted
[15:09] <llutz> note_: grep partition-default imapd.conf
[15:09] <denebeim> domain matches (using the default), works find ubuntu/ubuntu
[15:10] <dpurgert> yeah, that's "right" according to the setup instructions (that I remember, it's been a while since I actually made a share)
[15:10] <note_> llutz, grep: imapd.conf: No such file or directory
[15:10] <llutz> note_: add path to that file /etc/cyrus...??/
[15:11] <dpurgert> deadmund, yeah, that's gonna take a while since you're over USB (remember that the 480MB/s is theoretical maximum)
[15:11] <denebeim> it's looking like idmapd is using the uid value to search for the login  (iow '1004' instead of 'denebeim')
[15:11] <MiningMarsh> deadmund, there is always the simple dd if=/dev/urandom of=/hard/drive/path. You can play witht he blocksize until you find a good one.
[15:11] <note_> llutz, /etc/cyrus/ doesn't exist
[15:11] <llutz> note_: where is your imapd.conf located?
[15:12] <note_>  /etc/imapd.conf
[15:12] <deadmund> dpurgert: yeah, I mean, is there an alternative data wiping program that does every 4th bit or something?  I think re-writing _every_ bit of data is a waste of time.  I mean, the harddrive wasn't full of data to begin with, and a good chunk of what was on there was a copy of windows 7
[15:12] <llutz> note_: grep partition-default /etc/imapd.conf
[15:12] <note_> llutz, partition-default: /var/spool/cyrus/mail
[15:12] <bekks> !nomodeset > bekks
[15:12] <deadmund> MiningMarsh: Can you explain the blocksize parameter?  I am familiar with bs=XY syntax but I'm not really sure what it does or how I might make the process faster by changing it
[15:13] <llutz> note_: ls -ld /var/spool/cyrus/mail
[15:13] <note_> llutz, drwxr-x--- 3 cyrus mail 4096 Jan 20 13:00 /var/spool/cyrus/mail
[15:14] <Sgt_Shultz> !nomodeset > Sgt_Shultz
[15:14] <llutz> note_: looks right, sorry no idea then
[15:14] <note_> :/
[15:14] <note_> thank you
[15:14] <denebeim> any ideas dpurgert?
[15:14] <MiningMarsh> deadmund, well, data is copied in blocks. So a bs=1mb makes copies 1 mebabyte at a time. Basically, drives will be faster or slower depending on the blocksize, as they all have a different sized internal cache to hold the data. I find that 8mb is a good block size usually.
[15:14] <alami> hello how can i run aprogram in verbose mode
[15:15] <MiningMarsh> deadmund, and a higher blocksize is not always better.
[15:15] <denebeim> alami, it's usually either -v or -d
[15:15] <WotWhere> need qt3 help using Gnome
[15:15] <WotWhere> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1552378/
[15:15] <SpartanF31> hallo!
[15:15] <iceroot> alami: depending on the program, normally -v
[15:15] <deadmund> MiningMarsh: So it's still re-writing every bit on the drive but it's doing so in chunks.  What does this wipe program do?
[15:15] <denebeim> alami, but that's up to the program
[15:15] <llutz> note_: old but maybe this gives you an idea where to look at http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-822388.html
[15:16] <MiningMarsh> deadmund, no idea.
[15:16] <denebeim> alami, -h almost always works for getting help, you might also want to type 'man commandname'
[15:16] <deadmund> MiningMarsh: Alright, thanks for the help.  Hopefully dd is faster
[15:17] <SpartanF31> My computer is on lan with few other computer. There is a way for me to see in samba shares the lan available machines  and at the same time hide my one?
[15:17] <MiningMarsh> deadmund, if you want to find a good blocksize
[15:18] <MiningMarsh> just do somehting like time dd if=/dev/urandom of=/file/on/that/drive with different blocksizes. Find which is fastest.
[15:18] <defer_> I want to map < and > to one key how can i do it?
[15:18] <deadmund> MiningMarsh: why urandom and not random?
[15:18] <bekks> deadmund: the blocksize should be the same size as the hdd cache size for optimized performance.
[15:18] <WotWhere> where can i find libqt4-qt3support lib ?
[15:18] <WotWhere> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1552378/
[15:19] <MiningMarsh> deadmund, random has the possibility of running out, urandom lasts forever. Just a good diea to always use urandom.
[15:19] <deadmund> bekks: MiningMarsh how can I tell which is "faster" sudo dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sdc1 bs=8192  gives no output until it's finished.
[15:19] <bekks> MiningMarsh: /dev/[u]random is pretty slow and normally slower than a harddisk. And writing into a file is not a good idea since you have a filesystem layer, which affects performance, too.
[15:19] <mguy> deadmund: you can send the dd pid a signal and it will repot
[15:19] <note_> llutz, hello, after reading that i realised the guide i followed (same guide the guy from that archive followed) and i didn't uncomment admin: cyrus
[15:20] <note_> after uncommented it allowed me to create it
[15:20] <note_> thank you
[15:20] <bekks> deadmund: It will never finish until the target throws an EOF error.
[15:20] <MiningMarsh> bekks, well, zero is fast but a little less secure. And thats the best way I know of to find a good blocksize.
[15:20] <MiningMarsh> gparted uses the same.
[15:20] <llutz> note_: things start to work if you do it right :)
[15:20] <bekks> MiningMarsh: I just pointed out why thats a pretty useless way to find a valuable blocksize.
[15:20] <alami> whow can i fix that http://pastebin.com/yCqcUdnx
[15:21] <FlowRiser> Hey guys, i have a notebook and i'm looking for a lightweight linux distro;  I narrowed it down to either Xubuntu or Lubuntu. So uhmm, Xubuntu vs Lubuntu ?
[15:21] <deadmund> mguy: thanks
[15:21] <SpartanF31>  hallo! My computer is on lan with few other computer. There is a way for me to see in samba shares the lan available machines  and at the same time hide my one?
[15:21] <Salvadi> .xchat2/budus.so
[15:21] <bekks> deadmund: Usable results can be produced with using a bs=16M (when having 16M cache on your hdd) and a count= value that exceeds the physical RAM to ensure you will be using the I/O cache instead your harddisk.
[15:22] <OerHeks> FlowRiser, Xubuntu needs 512 and Lubuntu can run on 256 mb systemmemory
[15:22] <llutz> deadmund: if you want some status from dd, use"killall -USR1 dd" in a 2nd terminal, it will force dd to tell you something
[15:22] <deadmund> bekks: Thanks, how can i determine the cache on this hdd?
[15:23] <FlowRiser> OerHeks, how about their desktop environments ? I'm thinking of heavily customizing them ...
[15:23] <bekks> deadmund: By looking up the model at the manufacturers site.
[15:23] <NERO_> Hey! I'm looking for help regarding the battery management in my lenovo G580 laptop.
[15:23] <NERO_> I've ubuntu 12.04 installed.
[15:23] <daftykins> SpartanF31: why?
[15:23] <deadmund> bekks: ugh, thanks
[15:23] <OerHeks> FlowRiser, try them both and see what you like
[15:24] <note_> llutz, after doing all of this, is it even possible for me to add this email address to a mail app, like someone would with googlemail etc?
[15:24] <FlowRiser> NERO_, look in settings, you have power management
[15:24] <dan1726> thanks guys I found out what was wrong... remote access to mysql is block by default in iptables..
[15:24] <alex_> I finally was able to install ubuntu with Windows 8, but... I can not see grub or any bootloader, it always boot in Windows. Any suggestion?
[15:24] <FlowRiser> OerHeks, will do, thanks for the info
[15:24] <deadmund> llutz: that command does not give any output
[15:24] <llutz> note_: sure
[15:24] <FlowRiser> alex_, did you install windows before or after linux ?
[15:24] <note_> I can!?
[15:25] <llutz> deadmund: it gives output in the terminal dd is running
[15:25] <deadmund> llutz: Oh!  I see it does on the dd terminal
[15:25] <deadmund> llutz: yeah, thanks.  sorry! :P
[15:25] <SpartanF31> daftykins: becouse i'm on a public network and that net isn't mine, so i want to avoid my notebook is visible in windows network places
[15:25] <NERO_> In brief: I've had this battery management software for windows that charges the battery for 60% and runs on AC power. However I'm unable to find a s/w in ubuntu.
[15:25] <deadmund> this is still going to take a _long_ time
[15:25] <daftykins> SpartanF31: so you've already got it installed and some shares configured, i assume?
[15:25] <FlowRiser> SpartanF31, Usually windows users don't know that they can see other pcs on lan =)
[15:26] <daftykins> FlowRiser: of course they do, you open explorer and it shows them...
[15:26] <SpartanF31> daftykins: exactly.
[15:26] <deadmund> As I said before, I don't need to re-write every bit.  I think the fastest way to do this would be to re-write every 10th bit or something.  This would still thoroughly scramble the data but theoretically would take 1/10th the time.  Is there any tool like this?
[15:27] <note_> llutz, where do i find out my incoming/outgoing mail server that I 'potentially' would have set up with postfix/cyrus
[15:27] <NERO_> Flowriser are u on?
[15:27] <alami> how can i fix that http://pastebin.com/yCqcUdnx
[15:27] <mguy> deadmund: What are you trying to do?   The data isn't really sensitive, just personal
[15:28] <FlowRiser> NERO_, you are vague about software charging your battery ...
[15:28] <llutz> note_: point your mailprogram to the hostname/ip of that server you just configured
[15:28] <mguy> deadmund: fill it with zeros it shoudl run at the top speed of your disk
[15:28] <deadmund> daftykins: Yes, but I'm doing it over USB cause it's  laptop hdd and I have a desktop.  The blocksize on dd is not going to make this go fast enough for me.
[15:28] <note_> llutz, thank you
[15:28] <deadmund> mguy: Ok, I'll try that instead of random (/dev/null right?)
[15:28] <daftykins> deadmund: really? have you run it for 15 mins and seen how far it got using kill -USR1 PID ?
[15:28] <vlaca> deadmund: afaik, hard drives write in blocks of at least 512 bytes so writing a bit takes as much as 512 bytes
[15:29] <note_> hm, it says the password for my user is wrong, but i didn't create a password, what would it be?
[15:29] <mguy> deadmund: Or just drag a bunch of video/mp3 files to it and keep doing it till you fill the disk
[15:29] <daftykins> deadmund: yeah i was meaning use zeroes. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=2M
[15:29] <NERO_> flowriser, I'm aware. Its the Lenovo battery management for windows. Now how do i stop the charge at 60% in ubuntu?
[15:29] <llutz> note_: i guess you have to configure a password
[15:29] <mguy> NERO_: Why would you want to do that
[15:29] <deadmund> Most recently: 1765 bytes (1.8 kB) copied, 350.191 s   The hdd has 320 billion bytes
[15:29] <SpartanF31> daftykins: i have a normal kubuntu installation, and sometime i need to access the nas over the office network where i work. But at home i want be not visible because if so the wifi owner as happened will shut down the AP.
[15:30] <deadmund> daftykins: ok, i'll try that and see how fast it goes
[15:30] <mguy> deadmund: That's odd it should run at 25MB or so
[15:30] <NERO_> That will help my battery functioning for a long time.
[15:30] <SpartanF31> daftykins: so i need a way to not broadcast my computer name over windows  network.
[15:30] <Pinkamena_D> Hello, can anyone tellme what package i cna use to disable the onboard wireless in favor of a USB one
[15:30] <mguy> NERO_: No it won't, this isn't 1994 batteries and chargers have brains
[15:30] <deadmund> Writing 0's is _much_ faster
[15:30] <deadmund> thanks! :)
[15:31] <Pinkamena_D> the onboard keeps connecting by itself and slowing everything down
[15:31] <NERO_> *as in It will improve the life of my battery.
[15:31] <deadmund> 161480704 bytes (161 MB) copied, 2.98418 s
[15:31] <bekks> deadmund: Why dont you use a reasonable bs= and count= parameter for finding the best performance?
[15:31] <daftykins> deadmund: :)
[15:31] <SpartanF31> mguy: u can use the terminal, and putting down the internal wifi.
[15:31] <mguy> deadmund: USB 3.0?
[15:32] <bekks> deadmund: writing zeros is the same speed as writing random data. GENERATING zeros is much faster than random data.
[15:32] <mguy> quit
[15:32] <FlowRiser> NERO_, oooh, you mean that ... hmm, let me see
[15:32] <kmicu> Crackling, clicking, popping sounds only when I have multimonitor setup (USB X-FI card) :/ Under xfce/gnome/unity the same, and with 12.04 and 12.10
[15:32] <deadmund> bekks: cool, thans
[15:32] <deadmund> mguy: usb2
[15:32] <Pinkamena_D> if you were referring to me, i have tried using the terminal to set wlan0 down with ifconfig, but iwconfig does not seem to have a simmilar feature?
[15:32] <sevenforall> Hm, Ubuntu stops loading during the splash screen with all dots filled. Any ideas?
[15:32] <deadmund> bekks: please, I am.  of course doing that
[15:32] <Pinkamena_D> or is one of the modes you can set it to "disabled"?
[15:32] <daftykins> SpartanF31: just don't start samba when you're at home. simples.
[15:32] <vlaca> bekks: yes, but is generating random data slower than the writing speed of the drive? :_
[15:33] <bekks> vlaca: In some cases, yes.
[15:33] <mguy> deadmund: something might be up - it's impossible for USB 2 to transer 160MB in 2.9 seconds.
[15:33] <Toph2> if you 0 fill your hdd, is it totally, safely erased?
[15:33] <daftykins> SpartanF31: also stop stealing someones wireless network :P
[15:33] <bekks> deadmund: Then whats the complete command you are using?
[15:33] <mguy> Toph2: yes
[15:33] <bekks> Toph2: Yes.
[15:33] <Toph2> ok,, thanks
[15:33] <mguy> vlaca: some random generation is SLOW
[15:33] <vlaca> bekks: maybe /dev/random :)
[15:33] <NERO_> The more times you charge a battery to a 100% and get it down to 15 % or anything near everytime would hamper the life of any battery. So, I have this energy management by lenovo that will charge up the battery for a 60% and run on AC power.
[15:33] <bekks> vlaca: Which is slower than /dev/zero
[15:33] <deadmund> bekks: still figuring that out silly!
[15:33] <bekks> deadmund: Then whats the hdd cache size of your hdd?
[15:34] <mguy> NERO_: That's baloney
[15:34] <vlaca> bekks: yes, it definitely is, but is still might be faster than the drive's speed
[15:34] <SpartanF31> daftykins: ahhaah, it's public, opened.
[15:34] <deadmund> mguy: It's slowed down, now it's at like 29MB / s
[15:34] <daftykins> SpartanF31: doesn't make it right.
[15:34] <Sister> hi. after updating ubuntu 12.04 (not distro change, just regular update over a fresh install) the sound stopped working. my keyboard has a "mute key" that i press and ubuntu says the mute/unmute works, but the keyboard key keeps with the red light on as if it were always deactivated. and despite ubuntu saying it has unmuted, there's still no sound
[15:34] <denebeim> sevenforall: hit F10 while booting and watch what's happening.  There's like a thousand programs that get run when you're seeing 'dots'
[15:34] <bekks> vlaca: It might be faster, but not necessarilly.
[15:34] <mguy> deadmund: that's more like it
[15:34] <bekks> deadmund: And now please give us the command you are running.
[15:34] <FlowRiser> NERO_, gnome-power-preferences, have you looked at it ?
[15:35] <deadmund> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc1 bs=8M    and it's getting about 30MB/s
[15:35] <NERO_> mguy, I'm not trying to be a cynic or waste someone's time around here by creating an illusion or a hoax. What I mentioned about the battery is logical and sound.
[15:35] <SpartanF31> daftykins: i know, i'm sorry. But, my houselord doesn't want activate a flat, and the mobile 3g signal is very bad.
[15:35] <sevenforall> denebeim: I figured the latter. Let me see.
[15:35] <bekks> deadmund: And whats the hdd cache size of your disk?
[15:35] <alex_> FlowRiser: I installed it before (it was the one that comes with the pc)
[15:35] <bekks> deadmund: And where is the count= parameter I told you to use several times now?
[15:35] <Pinkamena_D> does anyone know how to do this? im in the place of public wifi now and still having the problem
[15:36] <NERO_> mguy, I'm not trying to be a cynic or waste someone's time around here by creating an illusion or a hoax. What I mentioned about the battery is logical and sound.
[15:36] <vlaca> bekks: well I'll be damned... on my setup /dev/urandom comes at 14MB/s
[15:36] <vlaca> deadmund: use /dev/zero
[15:36] <NERO_> Flowriser, they dont make any impact.
[15:36] <bekks> vlaca: :P
[15:36] <sevenforall> dennenboom: It stops at 'Checking battery state'
[15:36] <deadmund> bekks: I'm getting around to it!
[15:36] <deadmund> bekks: gosh
[15:36] <sevenforall> denebeim ^
[15:36] <SpartanF31> daftykins: however, stopping the samba server means i couldn't see other pc connected. Is it true'
[15:36] <bekks> deadmund: Did you look it up at the manufacturers site?
[15:37] <deadmund> bekks: I didn't look up the cache size, i'm just empirically determining it
[15:37] <bekks> deadmund: Well, then I am out of your ticket, good luck.
[15:37] <Pinkamena_D> how about just uninstalling an interface? how can i do that?
[15:37] <daftykins> SpartanF31: you don't need to be sharing to connect to shares. i'm not sure if it stops it
[15:38] <NERO_> I've read the ubuntu forums and questions regarding the same from askubuntu.com, but they do not highlight any answers regarding lenovo G580 battery issues. Its more of the thinkpad genre there.
[15:38] <SpartanF31> hmmm
[15:38] <deadmund> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc1 bs=16M count=3G   is a little faster at 31MB/s
[15:38] <deadmund> bekks: Thanks for the help :)
[15:38] <daftykins> Pinkamena_D: you still use 'ifconfig <interface> down' if it's a wifi interface
[15:38] <Tex_Nick> NERO_ : i just entered channel ... saw your post about charging battery to 100% ... harms battery ... what type of battery are you refering to and how are you charging it ... older batteries had memory retention problems ... most newer batteries don't suffer from that :)
[15:38] <SpartanF31> ok, thanks... soon i'll try something.
[15:38] <Pinkamena_D> then if just comes back up in 10 seconds
[15:39] <NERO_> Tex_Nick If I may ask, to what memory retention were you implying?
[15:39] <denebeim> sevenforall: at the grub prompt edit the load line and put 'single' at the end
[15:39] <Pinkamena_D> because the management software i assume
[15:39] <note_> llutz, didn't work :/ it logs me in but it can't send it out
[15:39] <note_> or receive
[15:39] <sevenforall> denebeim: Holding shift, right?
[15:39] <NERO_> http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
[15:40] <denebeim> sevenforall: that stops the boot really early on.  then poke around /etc/init.d to find where it's checking for the battery
[15:40] <denebeim> severnforall: I usually hit esc or the arrow keys when the boot menu comes up
[15:41] <FlowRiser> NERO_, you can make yourself a script, that will notify you when the battery reaches 60%, then just unpluc the ac power
[15:41] <FlowRiser> NERO_, if you are using Ubuntu 12.04, it
[15:41] <sevenforall> denebeim: Btw, I can get into a console while it's stuck booting, can I continue from there?
[15:41] <Tex_Nick> NERO_ : in particular most older NiCad batteries needed to be drained to about 5% or so before recharging ... if not they would not fully recharge ... that's OLD technology ... the rumor still exists though
[15:41] <FlowRiser> NERO_, it will be fairly simple ... using notify-send
[15:41] <Pinkamena_D> ok, here is a better question. how do i turn off the wireless management software if i canno control it the way i want
[15:42] <Tex_Nick> NERO_ : was just wondering what issues you were having :)
[15:43] <NERO_> FlowRiser The whole point of my question is to have the adapter plugged as long as I'm using the laptop.
[15:43] <denebeim> sevenforall: Oh really?  That's bizarre, I've never seen anything like that.  ssh into the machine sometimes, sure, but not that.
[15:43] <sevenforall> denebeim: I'm absolutely clueless of where to look in init.d
[15:43] <Pinkamena_D> i am a noob but i didnt think this would be [i]that[/i] complicated...
[15:44] <Sister> oh wait. the mute key light goes on only if the headphones are connected
[15:44] <FlowRiser> NERO_, do you have a key combo (fn+f12 or smthng) that does that ?
[15:44] <sevenforall> I don't know if anyone can SSH into my machine and have a look
[15:44] <denebeim> sevenforall: those are the scripts that are run during initialization, I'd grep around for like 'battery' and so on to try to find which script is hanging.