[06:43] <broder> @time utc
[07:01] <dholbach> good morning
[08:41] <dholbach> allison, broder, tumbleweed, ajmitch: any more ideas, feedback or updates for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/BugFixingInitiative?
[08:59] <kmdm> Hi guys, if I want to test how a package (slapd) behaves (or doesn't, in this case) during the preinst/postinst process of a 'do-release-upgrade -d' between 10.04 -> 12.04 : what's the best of trying a patched package (given that do-release-upgrade disables thirdparty repos)
[12:42] <bulldog98> hi guys I need help with an security update for owncloud in precise
[12:43] <vibhav> bulldog98: Which update?
[12:43] <bulldog98> I already have packaged a newer version of it, but I need someone to upload
[12:43] <bulldog98> vibhav: from 3.0.0 to 3.0.3
[12:43] <bulldog98> which fixed some issues
[12:43] <bulldog98> concerning security
[12:46] <vibhav> bulldog98: Have you created a debdiff?
[12:46] <bulldog98> vibhav: not yet howto do that?
[12:47] <vibhav> Have you packaged a new version of owncloud or just fixed a security flaw?
[12:47] <bulldog98> vibhav: both
[12:47] <geser> bulldog98: try #ubuntu-hardened for the security folks, but you need to backport those security fixes to the version in precise
[12:48] <vibhav> yes
[12:48] <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/UpdateProcedures might help too
[12:49] <vibhav> bulldog98: What geser and dholbach said
[12:54] <bulldog98> hm
[12:54] <vibhav> Could somebody nominate https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-config-samba/+bug/749748 for natty and oneiric?
[12:54] <bulldog98> upstream said don’t use 3.0.0 please update to 3.0.3 can’t we just do that?
[12:56] <dholbach> bulldog98, personally, I think I'd file a bug report with the update request, mention all the reasons for the update and the CVE number and subscribe the ubuntu-security-sponsors team to have them have a look over it
[12:56] <dholbach> that way all the relevant people have all the relevant information
[12:57] <bulldog98> dholbach: hm I don’t have a CVE number yet because all that stuff is traced in the owncloud bug tracker
[12:57] <dholbach> well then all the security bugs over there
[12:58] <bulldog98> only thing I have in lp is bug #996185
[12:59] <dholbach> if you have links in the upstream bug tracker, then put them into the upgrade bug report too along with the bugs in Ubuntu this would fix
[13:02] <vibhav> dholbach: Are you busy?
[13:03] <dholbach> how can I help?
[13:03] <vibhav> dholbach: Could you nominate https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-config-samba/+bug/749748 for natty and  oneiric?
[13:03] <vibhav> Also, About the Bug Fixing Initiative, what about a fix-it week
[13:05] <dholbach> vibhav, yes, the idea we had at UDS was to present a bug fixing initiative list at every motu meeting
[13:05] <dholbach> so every 2 weeks
[13:07] <dholbach> vibhav, done
[13:13] <vibhav> thanks
[13:28] <vibhav> Could somebody check https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/system-config-samba/+bug/749748/comments/6 ?
[13:30] <geser> the MOTU meeting is today in 2:30h, right?
[13:30] <geser> should it get added to the topic perhaps?
[13:31] <vibhav> what?
[13:33] <geser> vibhav: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-motu/2012-May/007236.html
[13:49] <l3on> Hey guys.. do you know what's wrong with:
[13:49] <l3on> $ bzr lp-propose-merge lp:ubuntu/forked-daapd
[13:49] <l3on> Most recent Ubuntu version: 0.19gcd-2ubuntu1
[13:49] <l3on> Packaging branch status: CURRENT
[13:49] <l3on> bzr: ERROR: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/+branch/ubuntu/forked-daapd/ is not registered on Launchpad
[14:24] <dholbach> l3on, you could try asking in #bzr - I personally don't know
[14:24] <dholbach> geser, good idea
[14:51] <dholbach> allison, broder, tumbleweed, ajmitch: meeting in 1h - do you have any more ideas, feedback or updates for https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/BugFixingInitiative? :)
[14:52] <tumbleweed> dholbach: sorry, been mostly offline for the last couple of days
[14:52] <dholbach> I hope it's nothing serious :)
[14:52]  * dholbach hugs tumbleweed
[14:53] <tumbleweed> naah, was flying to london. And arrived to find very poor internet connectivity
[14:54]  * tumbleweed wonders what revu-tools is still doing in the archive
[14:54] <dholbach> I'm wondering how much work it'd be to go through merges and pick a few easy ones for intermediate folks
[14:54] <dholbach> feel free to pick it off the list :)
[14:59] <micahg> when's the MOTU meeting?
[15:00] <dholbach> in 1h
[15:26] <highvoltage> is that going to be the usual time for motu meetings?
[15:26] <dholbach> highvoltage, no, meeting times is #1 on the agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Meetings
[15:33] <micahg> Rhonda: do you work on packages.debian.org as well (should this conversation move elsewhere)?
[15:41] <Rhonda> Sure, potentially #debian-ubuntu or #debian-www on oftc. :)
[15:42] <Rhonda> … depending on what exactly your question is.
[15:42] <iulian> tumbleweed: That's because of this bloody weather!
[15:45]  * dupondje waves to tumbleweed
[15:57] <dholbach> MOTU meeting in 3m in #u-meeting
[16:03] <dholbach> geser, we're discussing motu meeting times right now :)
[16:06] <zooko`> Hey folks--does anybody have strong juju fu and want to collaborate with me on writing a charm for Tahoe-LAFS?
[16:06] <zooko`> I think it should be pretty easy.
[16:06] <micahg> zooko: I figure -server is a better place to discuss juju charms
[16:06] <zooko> micahg: thanks!
[16:08] <dholbach> geser, sorry, we moved on already - we'll bring it up on the mailing list
[16:08] <dholbach> geser, if you want scrollback, let me know
[16:09] <geser> dholbach: will read the log on irclogs.u.c later
[16:09] <dholbach> ok cool
[20:32] <ajmitch> morning
[20:33] <tumbleweed> does that mean you got some sleep?
[20:34] <ajmitch> barely
[20:35]  * ajmitch did go back to bed after the meeting, not sure if it helped at all
[20:35] <micahg> is planet broken or is no one blogging
[20:38] <ajmitch> there were a couple of posts yesterday
[23:22] <dupondje> tumbleweed: could you think about my MOTU application if you have some spare time? :)


[10:10] <irishdude> I just installed mythubuntu, I have a problem that my backend server isnt connecting, not sure why
[10:23] <irishdude> I was wondering if anyone can help me, I cant seem to be able to get mythtv to work
[11:55] <G64> Hi All
[11:56] <G64> I have just upgraded to 0.26 in my Mythbuntu 12.04.2 install but when i run the backend setup it immediatly hangs when i select an option from 2 or higher
[11:56] <G64> I want to configure my tuners again but it just locks up
[15:32] <irishdude> Hope someone can help. I just installed mythubuntu and I cant seem to get mythtv backend to run.
[15:32] <irishdude> !help
[15:32] <Zinn> !help For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[17:20] <DarthFrog> !0byte
[17:20] <Zinn> Do you get 0-byte recordings? Please help us track it down by posting information about it in this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10459420
[18:12] <bobweaver> so I hear that mythbuntu is getting a ubuntu phone app. any one seen the app?
[20:39] <bobweaver> I asked this on #mythtv but I will also ask it here
[20:40] <bobweaver> How many frontends should I include in the myth mobile app ?  5 ?  each one will need a sqllight  db  that comes with it so I do not want to have 50  + i think that most people only have 3 or so frontends
[20:41] <bobweaver> I am setting up db(front end now) so that end User can use remote that I wrote into app to control many frontends
[20:41] <bobweaver> well that and play videos and whta not from there phone on whatever front end they want
[20:42] <bobweaver> Like all this stuff
[20:42] <bobweaver> http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Frontend_Service


[09:41] <elacheche> Morning
[09:51] <SalahMessaoud> Morning elacheche o/
[09:52] <elacheche> Wassup SalahMessaoud
[09:58] <SalahMessaoud> I am at work as usual :D
[09:58] <SalahMessaoud> and you ?
[09:59] <praisethemoon> good day everyone
[10:03] <elacheche> Good, I'm @home x)
[10:05] <praisethemoon> w y home elacheche
[10:05] <praisethemoon> y u home *
[10:11] <elacheche> I have somethng to work on
[10:35] <Dro> bjr! :D
[10:35] <elacheche> Dro: Where were you been all this time :o
[10:36] <Dro> elacheche, i was a bit busy trying to make the impossible possible :P
[10:37] <elacheche> So, what is the new possible?
[10:37] <Dro> flying to Mars :D haha
[10:37] <Dro> ça va bro ! :D
[10:37] <elacheche> yep :) u?
[10:38] <Dro> trying to be fine :D
[10:38] <elacheche> Good :)
[10:39] <elacheche> Stay here :) People will come soon and you'll have a good gekky conversation..  Need to add that to the Kernel
[18:19] <Dro> hello


[14:38] <arges> hi. looking at libgphoto2 in trusty queue which fixes the broken -proposed version (<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu2.1). Should the diff be against ubuntu2 or ubuntu2.1 with what I see in the queue? Anything I should watch out for there?
[14:39] <cjwatson> If the diff in the queue is wrong (possible) then just download the source and debdiff by hand against the versions in trusty/trusty-proposed
[14:42] <arges> cjwatson: sure, what I'm asking is should the debdiff i see with 'sru-review' show the diff against the -updates version or -proposed?
[14:44] <cjwatson> arges: And what I'm saying is that I don't remember but that if it doesn't it isn't fatal and you should just do the diff by hand
[14:44] <cjwatson> I mean if it doesn't do whichever of those you might want - I can imagine either being useful
[14:46] <arges> cjwatson: ok Ill do that, overall I just want to make sure if I accept it in the queue, i'm doing the right thing; esp since this is a case where the old -proposed is verficiation-failed
[14:48] <cjwatson> I would normally diff by hand in that situation anyway just to make sure
[14:49] <arges> cool, doing that now
[14:59] <zul> do i have to write a MIR for python3-tornado even though python-tornado is in main already?
[15:03] <cjwatson> No, it's from the same source package
[15:04] <cjwatson> zul: python3-sure also seems to be missing for python-httpretty though
[15:05] <zul> cjwatson: yeah im trying to trackdown python-htpretty in proposed
[15:05] <cjwatson> zul: could you write an MIR for python-rednose?
[15:05] <cjwatson> I think that's what's needed
[15:05] <zul> cjwatson: yeah im on it
[15:05] <cjwatson> Also python-termstyle
[15:06] <cjwatson> python3-tornado can be promoted without paperwork, but I'd rather hold off on it until the other things are done because otherwise it'll transiently show up for movement back to universe in c-m and somebody might do that
[15:07] <arges> zul: can keystone/ceilometer 1:2014.2~b1-0ubuntu1 be rejected from the queue since I see newer versions?
[15:08] <arges> (from the trusty queue that is)
[15:09] <zul> arges:  yes
[15:18]  * arges starts reviewing the rest of the openstack uploads.
[15:23] <jamespage> arges, can you hold on those for the moment
[15:23] <jamespage> arges, just waiting for nova to catchup
[15:23] <arges> jamespage: ok,. got neutron accepted. but will holdon the rest
[15:23] <arges> jamespage: sorry about that.
[15:24] <jamespage> arges, hey - no problem
[15:24] <jamespage> arges, I guess it does not hurt from them to enter proposed a little staggerred
[15:46] <Laney> is germinate-output from previous days stored anywhere?
[15:50] <cjwatson> Laney: sorry no
[15:51] <Laney> oh well
[15:51] <Laney> was wondering why removing no-follow-recommends from touch/desktop changed little
[16:32] <rbasak> http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/germinate-output/ubuntu.utopic/all lists chkrootkit as coming from "Ubuntu.Utopic supported-sysadmin-common seed" and it's in component mismatches.
[16:32] <rbasak> This is from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chkrootkit/+bug/1324111 I guess.
[16:33] <rbasak> I'm confused though, as I see no mention of chkrootkit anywhere inside lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.utopic
[16:34] <rbasak> And the email to ubuntu-release said "[Reverse-Depends: Ubuntu.Utopic supported-misc-servers seed]"
[16:34] <cjwatson> ubuntu.utopic inherits from platform.utopic and the supported-sysadmin-common seed is in the latter.
[16:34] <rbasak> Ah
[16:35] <rbasak> I did not know about inheritance or about platform.*. That's what I was missing. Thanks.
[16:35] <cjwatson> The inheritance is defined in STRUCTURE.
[16:35] <cjwatson> It might be nice if germinate used the real seed collection name in its reasons rather than the starting collection though.
[16:36] <cjwatson> Bug report would be welcome.
[16:36] <rbasak> I'll happily file one for you, but I'm barely starting to understand this area. I can do some copy and pasting from here though :)
[16:36] <cjwatson> Copy and paste will be fine :)
[16:38] <rbasak> Done: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/germinate/+bug/1331072
[16:38] <rbasak> Ugh the copy and paste came out horrible. Sorry.
[16:39]  * rbasak fixes
[16:40] <rbasak> jdstrand: ^^ - so could you drop chkrootkit from platform.utopic/support-sysadmin-common also, please, for bug 1324111? I don't have commit rights.
[16:54] <jdstrand> rbasak: done
[18:27] <rbasak> jdstrand: thanks!


[11:55] <scott-work> astraljava: ping
[13:01] <holstein> scott-work: maybe we can hang on sunday?
[13:01] <holstein> im free in the afternoon... see if you can get connected to mumble and whatever else we need
[13:24] <scott-work> holstein: sure, i think i can do that, the family is doing some stuff on friday and saturday, but i should be free on sunday
[13:25] <scott-work> holstein: i'm presuming you are expecting just to test things and not really record proper?
[13:25] <scott-work> oh, and holstein, you rock too!
[14:53] <astraljava> scott-work: pong
[14:53] <astraljava> scott-work: Sorry, moving this weekend. Catch ya on your Sunday evening?
[14:54] <astraljava> scott-work: Closing the desktop now. :)
[14:54] <scott-work> astraljava: sure, sure...sorry you ahve to waste your weekend moving
[14:54] <scott-work> maybe it's a good thing though, i wouldn't mind moving if i was getting a more suave place ;)
[14:56] <holstein> scott-work: hehe... you rock sir!
[14:57] <holstein> yeah, just a mumble and technology test
[14:57] <holstein> a proof of concept day
[14:57] <holstein> thats really the hard work
[14:57] <scott-work> i'm going to mail a computer to someone with ubuntu studio on it :)
[14:57] <holstein> getting connected, and making it happen
[14:57] <holstein> scott-work: nice
[19:15] <charlie-tca> ubuntustudio images for today spinning now
[19:23] <scott-work> i wonder if they will work this time?  not just the spinning and having viable images, i mean that i wonder if these will actually install :(
[19:23] <scott-work> thanks for keeping us updated charlie-tca :)
[19:27] <charlie-tca> Got to hope, I saw they fixed the bug from alpha1 or 2 about the seeds
[19:29] <charlie-tca> Of course, got to have an image to see if it works, too.
[19:36] <charlie-tca> Got a studio 64 image for today, at least
[19:40] <charlie-tca> okay, we got both images for today. I haven't had time to see if they work, though.


[21:15] <arraybolt3> mkukri: In the future, you *might* want to ping the last person to do a merge before stealing one. The work you did on XScreenSaver was fantastic, but what you didn't know that only I and the Lubuntu team did know is that Tormod was uploading a new upstream release of XScreenSaver at about the same time you were merging the old one. So I have to do another merge immediately after yours, and
[21:15] <arraybolt3> your merge has made it so that Merge-O-Matic now has slightly out-of-sync information so I have to wait for it to re-sync with things or do the merge entirely manually, so now it's going to be slowed down some. Nothing serious, just for future reference.
[21:55] <mkukri> i apologise,  i didnt realise lubuntu still uses and maintains xscreensaver,  either way i should have pinged the last uploader.  will do that for future merges
[21:57] <mkukri> (and btw,  that merge was done in git ubuntu and the metedata is in a git repo under my LP handle in case you want it)


[01:04] <kees> pedro_: when finding bugs like 306368, can you dup them to bug 124373
[01:05] <kees> there are tons of that report, so I like keeping them in one place (instead of making a new "answer")
[01:06] <pedro_> kees: alright
[01:08] <kees> cool, thanks.  :)
[01:10] <pedro_> you' welcome , thanks for letting me know about that bug
[01:56] <pedro_> ogasawara_: have you seen something like : http://paste.ubuntu.com/82755/ ?
[02:14] <hggdh> bug 306388
[02:17] <andresmujica> hmm. you should ask for a screenshoot. :D
[02:26] <hggdh> yay
[03:13] <ozgurgerilla> Hi all
[03:18] <duanedesign> I am a member of the Oklahoma LoCo team. As a group we are trying to get together and start triaging bugs. Several members have questions. If anyone with bug triaging experience could come to our meeting it would be greatly appreciated . Thursday Dec. 11 7:30pm #ubuntu-us-ok
[03:19] <hggdh> duanedesign, I will try to be there
[03:26] <duanedesign> hggdh: I/we would greatly appreciate it
[03:43] <hggdh> welcome. I have it scheduled, all I need is Evo to remember to ring me ;-)
[07:05] <mrooney> bdmurray: is your bug mail reading and parsing code public anywhere?
[07:05] <mrooney> if you already have that work done, switching eeebotu to that method would probably be easy and then we get not just new bugs but changes and then subscriptions become useful
[07:06] <mrooney> and THEN an #ubuntu-bugs-fruit channel or something becomes possible where easy-to-triage bugs get announced
[07:07] <mrooney> ideally lowering the barrier to entry and sustained contributions for beginning triagers
[07:10]  * hacktick is preparing a bug-list for todays BugJam in Berlin :)
[14:12] <OmnipotentEntity> I have a report of the ath5k kernel module continually crashing and leaving stack traces all over the carpet, has this been reported, I can't find it in the reported bugs.
[14:12] <OmnipotentEntity> wow, that came out jumbled.
[14:13] <OmnipotentEntity> umm... going to file a bug, can't find a dupe, has anyone heard of this?
[14:21] <machoo02> bug #306429 should be marked as wishlist
[14:33] <machoo02> bug #306360 should be marked as wishlist
[14:43] <machoo02> bug #305981 should be marked as wishlist
[14:44] <BUGabundo_work> machoo02: humm fta PPA already has it...
[14:44] <BUGabundo_work> mention that to the user, and how to install PPA and the usual 3rd party repos stuff
[14:45] <machoo02> ok...will do
[14:47] <machoo02> BUGabundo_work: do you mean the mozillateam PPA?
[14:48] <MAINERROR> hey guys
[14:49] <MAINERROR> anyone here?
[14:59] <BUGabundo_work> ĩ guess machoo02
[14:59] <BUGabundo_work> where ever it is!
[15:00] <BUGabundo_work> sure MAINERROR
[15:00] <BUGabundo_work> not many, 'cause of UDS-Jaunty
[15:33] <bddebian> Boo
[15:34] <BUGabundo_work> Foo
[15:34] <bddebian> :)
[15:35] <BUGabundo_work> Barr
[15:36] <BUGabundo_work> bddebian: http://www.funtasticus.com/20081209/daily-cool-pictures-80/
[15:36] <bddebian> Heh, work is filtering that one :)
[15:37] <WelshDragon> Any help? Not sure what package to file this bug against, But it appears that when most applications stop playing sound, the application segfaults.
[15:37] <BUGabundo_work> alsa-utils?
[15:37] <BUGabundo_work> pulse-audio
[15:38] <BUGabundo_work> linux
[15:38] <BUGabundo_work> gstreamer
[15:38] <BUGabundo_work> WelshDragon: it can be any of this
[15:38] <WelshDragon> BUGabundo_work, I know, that's what i mean, how should i go about finding out which one? =)
[15:39] <BUGabundo_work> what app is giving you trouble?
[15:39] <BUGabundo_work> and what are you doing?
[15:40] <WelshDragon> BUGabundo_work, Rhythmbox, Banshee, Lastfm players, Even pidgin with it's notification sounds. They start playing the music/sound fine. But as soon as i press stop, or the sound notification on pidgin has stopped, they segfault.
[15:40] <BUGabundo_work> I would go with pulse audio
[15:41] <BUGabundo_work> WelshDragon: what version of Ubuntu are you running?
[15:41] <WelshDragon> Jaunty
[15:41] <BUGabundo_work> are you uptodate?
[15:41] <BUGabundo_work> ok... jaunty...
[15:41] <BUGabundo_work> I have my sound playing stream radio on exaile...
[15:41] <BUGabundo_work> so I know that it is working today...
[15:41] <BUGabundo_work> ahh
[15:41] <BUGabundo_work> open sound-properties
[15:42] <BUGabundo_work> and see what device output you are using
[15:42] <BUGabundo_work> and let us know what audio card you have
[15:44] <WelshDragon> BUGabundo_work, HDA Intel STAC92xx Analog (ALSA) is selected
[15:48] <BUGabundo_work> what other options do you have there?
[15:51] <WelshDragon> BUGabundo_work, "PulseAudio Sound Server", "ALSA Advanced Linux Sound Architecture", "OSS - Open Sound System" and "Autodetect".... Autodetect and ALSA are the only ones that work, and the problem still exists.
[15:52] <BUGabundo_work> I'm subcribed to LP bug about that
[15:52] <BUGabundo_work> take a look in there
[15:52] <BUGabundo_work> and see if it is the same with you
[15:53] <WelshDragon> Which bug #?
[15:56] <BUGabundo_work> can't find it
[15:56] <BUGabundo_work> not even FF Awesome bar can save me this time
[15:57] <WelshDragon> =\ heh
[17:00] <mohbana__> hi
[17:00] <mohbana__> has anyone noticed some strange behaviour with firefox
[17:00] <mcas> hi mohbana__
[17:00] <mohbana__> mcas: hih
[17:01] <mcas> which strange behaviour and which ubuntu/ firefox version
[17:02] <mohbana__> 3.04
[17:02] <mohbana__> 64bit ubuntu
[17:02] <BUGabundo_work> which is?
[17:05] <mohbana__> 1. when i click search for word, by first highlighting it then google search.  it only shows google homepage
[17:05] <mohbana__> 2. also, when i click new tab, nothing happens.  pretty random.  i tend to have to refresh the page
[17:06] <BUGabundo_work> 1st time I here about that
[17:06] <BUGabundo_work> have you tried on a new profile?
[17:07] <mohbana__> no, i don't want to loose all settings
[17:07] <BUGabundo_work> I don't
[17:08] <BUGabundo_work> I just create a new one and test
[17:08] <BUGabundo_work> and then go back to the old one
[17:08] <BUGabundo_work> firefox -ProfileManager
[17:13] <mohbana__> ok thanks
[17:37] <jegHegy> greetings, i would like to perform a gdm backtrace for an Xorg crash, problem is that networking doesn't work until i log in through GDM -- which is exactly when the crash happens, so i can't ssh in. any tips?
[18:18] <jegHegy> okay, got networking up, can anyone help me get a proper backtrace from Xorg?
[18:19] <jegHegy> it caught a SIGPIPE and a gdb prompt and a hung X on the sick machine. is that when i "backtrace full"?
[18:21] <jegHegy> okay, let's try an easier question, when does this channel have people who are not asleep? :)
[18:24] <mrooney> bdmurray: any thoughts on having five-a-day in universe or something, to lower the barrier to entry a little?
[18:26] <jegHegy> cont'd, reached a SIGABRT
[18:29] <jegHegy> reached a second SIGABRT and gdm restarted
[18:30] <joumetal> jegHegy: have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Debugging already?
[18:30] <jegHegy> yes
[18:30] <jegHegy> and DebuggingXorg
[18:31] <jegHegy> the first SIGABRT is the last time i can backtrace since after that the process gets killed
[18:31] <bdmurray> mrooney: one thing we'd discussed yesterday was not requiring people to submit bugs to five-a-day to participate, if you joined the team your 5 would be counted for you
[18:32] <mrooney> bdmurray: yeah I remember that, I guess I was thinking if that ended up not happening
[18:32] <mrooney> but if it is that would be great!
[18:44] <joumetal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Backtracing has section Post-mortem backtrace. maybe that helps.
[18:49] <jegHegy> joumetal: no core dump file gets created but i *think* i've got a proper trace now
[18:49] <jegHegy> submitting a bug in a minute
[18:51] <jegHegy> it looks to be a bug in mesa; went to report a mesa bug, launchpad told me to submit using ubuntu-bug -p mesa, but it says there is no such package?
[19:06] <jegHegy> #306616
[19:06] <jegHegy> there we go
[19:08] <jegHegy> fingers crossed


[02:36] <tsimonq2> Is this known? https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2016-October/011245.html
[02:36] <tsimonq2> Lubuntu now uses GNOME Software, and there's a bug there.
[06:01] <pitti> good morning
[07:59] <TheMuso> Hey pitti.
[08:02] <pitti> hey TheMuso, how are you?
[08:02] <TheMuso> pitti: Not too bad thanks. Just between sessions at the sprint. How about yourself?
[08:03] <pitti> TheMuso: I'm good, thanks! that good kind of muscle soreness after the two hours of Wed evening basketball :)
[08:03] <pitti> TheMuso: how is the sprint going? any exciting major changes on the desktop?
[08:03] <TheMuso> Thats a good kind of soreness, awesome, I'm sure it was enjoyable.
[09:42] <TheMuso> pitti: A part from Unity 8, nothing amazing that I know of.
[11:52] <Laney> 0/w 64
[11:52] <Laney> oops
[11:57] <sil2100> Ha, now we all know Laney's secret password
[11:57]  * sil2100 hacks Laney's PC
[11:59] <Laney> make your password look like an irssi command and nobody will guess
[11:59] <Laney> UNTIL NOW
[12:00] <xnox> make sure the password starts with /
[12:39] <happyaron> Mirv: ping
[12:41] <Laney> happyaron: http://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/fcitx.png
[13:09] <Mirv> happyaron: pong
[13:10] <happyaron> Mirv: where are you? Qt5 scaling bug as in Lane_y's screenshot
[13:11] <happyaron> I can go and find you if convenient
[13:12] <Mirv> happyaron: I'm in the plenary preparing for our lightning talk demo. Plus, I've the problem that my voice is gone...
[13:13] <happyaron> ah...
[13:14] <Mirv> happyaron: not familiar with such a bug or the scaling topic, not sure if some of the Unity 8 team would be familiar with scaling issues. Try Qt 5.6 (if not yet done), file LP bug with a test case, maybe search for upstream bugs to link to from https://bugreports.qt.io/
[13:15] <Mirv> happyaron: is that HighDPI issue?
[13:15] <happyaron> ok
[13:15] <happyaron> ty
[15:41] <pitti> tedg: https://objectstorage.prodstack4-5.canonical.com/v1/AUTH_39a8dbb93caf4ec889f8a1b7f69885db/bileto-1710-excuses/2016-10-20_14:40:01/landing-022_vivid_excuses.html#indicator-network says that indicator-network dropped two of its binaries (indicator-network-autopilot, indicator-network-tools) -- is that intended?
[15:41] <pitti> Laney: ^ if you see tedg, mabye you can ask him about it (as he doesn't really seem to read IRC this week)
[15:42] <pitti> this is the only remaining issue with landing this, AFAICS
[15:44] <Laney> pitti: roger (don't see him right now, but will do)
[15:45] <pitti> Laney: cheers
[15:46] <pitti> Laney: actually, the version in the overlay drops it already, so that's nothing new; I just wonder how that gets past britney
[15:49] <pitti> robru: ^ do you have an idea about that? i. e. indicator-network lost some binaries in the overlay PPA, and thus also in https://bileto.ubuntu.com/#/ticket/1710, and britney complains about that; can that be overruled/ignored somehow?
[15:50] <robru> pitti: well britney has never been more than advisory, nothing stops you publishing tickets with britney failures
[15:51] <pitti> robru: oh, ok; so presumably the last time it was landed like that as well
[15:52] <robru> pitti: no, look at the version numbers, it's complaining about old builds in the ppa which can simply be deleted
[15:54] <pitti> robru: oh, I see; I'll do that then
[15:55] <robru> pitti: yeah that happens sometimes, i guess a binary package was renamed after the initial build? I don't know why those don't go away when the source gets superceded
[15:55] <pitti> yeah, a bit strange
[15:57] <pitti> robru: indeed, I NBSed them out; this ticket/PPA has a long history.. :)
[15:57] <pitti> robru: thanks for your help!
[15:58] <robru> pitti: you're welcome
[16:00] <pitti> Laney, tedg: so unping for now
[20:43] <hurricanehrndz> Anyone notice that libreoffice snap does not do English spell checking
[20:43] <hurricanehrndz> language is always set to none


[00:10] <ChinnoDog> crickets
[00:21] <jedijf> crick ets
[00:48] <jthan> tadpole
[00:57] <jthan> Guys.. who knows what the wop is?
[01:07] <jthan> clarification..
[01:07] <jthan> not /a/ wop
[01:07] <jthan> THE wop
[01:11] <mikedep333> rmg51, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/08/gnome-2-forked/?utm_source=pulsenews&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+d0od+%28OMG%21+Ubuntu%21%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher
[01:12] <mikedep333> although personally I like both Gnome-Shell & Unity
[01:12] <mikedep333> because I can launch an app by pressing the windows key, and then start typing the name
[01:14] <rmg51> mikedep333: I read about the fork earlier
[01:15] <mikedep333> yeah
[01:15] <rmg51> what I liked about Cnome2 was the ability to add things to the panels
[01:16] <rmg51> that is lost in Unity and Gnome3
[01:16] <rmg51> I even tried Gnome Classic
[01:16] <rmg51> can't add to the panel
[01:17] <rmg51> Gnome3 doesn't run very well on my 2 older laptops
[01:17] <rmg51> about all I could do is wait to be able to click on something
[01:18] <rmg51> the wait was way too long so I just logged out :P
[01:19] <rmg51> never got around to installing Gnome on Teddy's Systm76 laptop
[01:19] <rmg51> I didn't upgrade this laptop yet
[01:19] <rmg51> it's still running 11.04 in Ubuntu Classic mode
[01:27] <jedijf> try lxde
[01:29] <rmg51> for the moment I'm staying with xfce
[01:30] <rmg51> if I get around to boot one of the older laptops I might try a few others
[01:30] <pleia2> we elected a new xubuntu project lead today
[01:30] <rmg51> I tried some of the light weight ones but didn't like the right click thing
[01:46] <jthan> I want to install gentoo guys
[01:48] <rmg51> again?
[01:48] <jthan> Yes.
[01:49] <jthan> I would try arch
[01:49] <jthan> but
[01:49] <jthan> idk
[01:49] <jthan> Maybe not :-p
[01:49] <jthan> I wish foresight made it further
[01:49] <jthan> I developed for them for a bit
[01:50] <rmg51> you should just pick something and stay with it
[01:51] <jthan> That isn't any fun
[01:51] <jthan> And you don't learn as much :-p
[01:51] <jthan> there's nothing to tinker with and fix when you use ubuntu
[01:52] <rmg51> I'm picking sleep and staying with it till the alarm goes off in the morning :-D
[01:52] <rmg51> there is now if you don't like Unity :P
[01:53] <jthan> True.
[01:53] <jthan> But I use xfce
[01:53] <jthan> and xubuntu
[01:53] <jthan> so
[01:53] <MutantTurkey> trinity!
[01:53] <rmg51> I'll be using xfce as well
[01:54] <MutantTurkey> did anyone read that article posted to /r/linux about "unity will be the end of ubuntu", read the article and call BS?
[01:55] <rmg51> no
[01:55] <rmg51> shower and sleep time
[01:55] <rmg51> later
[01:57] <MutantTurkey> IdleOne: where are thou?
[02:43] <jthan> Who's still around and pumpin?
[03:04] <InHisName> me neither
[03:04] <InHisName>  a round pumpkin ?
[03:12] <jthan> Hm.
[03:12] <jthan> How are you, sir?
[03:21] <jthan> erstazi: Shoutout to erie
[04:15] <pangolin> MutantTurkey: wearing my Halloween costume.
[09:21] <JonathanD> Morning.
[09:22] <rmg51> morning JonathanD
[09:23] <JonathanD> hey rmg51
[09:23] <rmg51> 0/
[09:31] <JonathanD> Whats happening?
[10:00] <rmg51> nothing yet
[12:05] <teddy-dbear> morning
[12:27]  * InHisName yawns, "oh its morning already?"
[12:45] <ChinnoDog> morning--
[12:45] <ChinnoDog> What does it take to run a bot here? Are there rules? Do I have to fill out forms?
[12:54] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: you can host the bot
[12:55] <jedijf> our resources on our free vps don't make it practical
[12:55] <InHisName> define vps
[12:55] <jedijf> InHisName: google it
[12:58] <ChinnoDog> I haz resources
[12:59] <InHisName> So a bot hogs too much resources to be in a virtual world ?
[13:06] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: install it
[13:06] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: i run one from my office
[13:27] <MutantTurkey> jedijf: my keyboard is now bugging the hell out of me. the A key is sticking
[13:38] <MobileTurkey> jedijf: scratch that. a toothpick got stuck
[13:49] <jedijf> MobileTurkey: i get that with my netbook, the keys seem soft...food and other gunk under
[13:50] <jedijf> MobileTurkey: was a toothpick the tool to remove gunk, or the gunk?
[13:50] <MobileTurkey> the gunk
[13:50] <jedijf> MobileTurkey: and i can't remove and replace individual keys, i just don't have the skills nor patience
[13:50] <MobileTurkey> used another pick to fix it
[18:12] <ChinnoDog> gobble gobble
[18:12] <ChinnoDog> someone remind me how to prevent joins/parts from triggering the irssi activity notifier
[18:15] <MutantTurkey> "/quit"
[18:16] <MutantTurkey> http://i.clintecker.com/disable-irc-msgs.html
[18:17] <ChinnoDog> That will make them go away completely
[18:17] <ChinnoDog> I want to see them, I just don't need to be notified
[18:17] <MutantTurkey>  :|
[18:17] <MutantTurkey> google my friend.
[18:28] <jedijf> ChinnoDog: ignore
[18:28] <jedijf> 14:28 Ignorance List:
[18:28] <jedijf> 14:28    1 &bitlbee: MSGS
[18:28] <jedijf> 14:28    2 #archlinux: JOINS PARTS
[18:28] <jedijf> 14:28    3 #ubuntu-classroom*: JOINS PARTS
[18:29] <jedijf> so /ignore #channel joins parts  or see /help ignore   like you need help
[18:31] <ChinnoDog> oh, ic
[18:32] <ChinnoDog> That is going to remove those levels entirely
[18:32] <ChinnoDog> I only want to stop it from notifying
[18:33] <ChinnoDog> I think it is one of the levels variables, though I don't remember how to do it per-channel
[18:55] <jthan> Is there an intuitive way to "fan out" all your windows (mac expose style) with xfce?
[19:32] <jedijf> unity can
[19:32] <jedijf> *unity* *can*
[19:36] <JonathanD> droid does.
[19:43] <InHisName> for an "A" record in nameserver:  what is destination?  an IP address or ???
[19:44] <JonathanD> ip
[19:45] <InHisName> but when I am trying to setup for dynamicDNS then what goes there ?  the current IP ?
[19:55] <jthan> InHisName: Yes
[19:56] <jthan> InHisName: are you using no-ip or dyndns?
[19:56] <jthan> dyndns I have never actually used..
[19:56] <InHisName> afraid.org
[19:56] <jthan> no-ip has a program you run that updates its IP periodicially from your computer.
[19:56] <jthan> jedijf: xfce. no unity.
[19:56] <InHisName> they all seem to offer that.
[19:57] <jthan> If you aren't using it, its your current IP, and if that IP changes, you have to go on the site and update the record
[19:58] <InHisName> there is supposed to be some software (win?) downloadable from the nameserver agency to do it automatically
[19:59] <InHisName> I got a free registration of xyz.co.cc and zoneedit, dyndns, others black out that TLD.  Afraid does not.
[19:59] <jthan> Never used it, so I can't offer much else
[20:01] <InHisName> I'm supposed to list nameservers I use to the domain provider.  I got 2 days before it kicks out.   I suppose I need to wait for afraid to finish setting up the A records at midnight.
[22:58] <SamuraiAlba> Good bacon that I gave up, to all
[23:00] <ChinnoDog> You gave up bacon?
[23:00] <anduril> the heresy
[23:01] <ChinnoDog> We will have to have an intervention
[23:04] <SamuraiAlba> Two failing heart valves AND a thickened left ventricle wall >.<
[23:05] <rmg51> turkey bacon :-D
[23:05] <ChinnoDog> SamuraiAlba: Do you have any evidence that shows that bacon will make that condition worse?
[23:07] <rmg51> ChinnoDog: do you have any evidence that shows that bacon will make that condition better?
[23:08] <anduril> bacon makes everything better
[23:08] <anduril> it even cures plague
[23:22] <SamuraiAlba> I also gave up beef
[23:22] <SamuraiAlba> chicken, fish, fruits, and veggies!
[23:23] <anduril> mmm fish
[23:30] <ChinnoDog> So, all sources of protein and essential nutrients?
[23:48] <SamuraiAlba> yup
[23:48] <SamuraiAlba> Hiya, Calvin
[23:49] <MutantTurkey> hey doode
[23:49] <MutantTurkey> he hates me :[


[08:48] <Wellark> hi!
[08:48] <Wellark> current daily amd64 alternate seems to be broken
[08:49] <Wellark> let's see if beta1 has the same problems


[18:04] <genii> camilla: First to make sure it is not already mounted somehow, to do: sudo umount /media/Extern                        it may be that the previous time when force was used it worked to make the computer think it was mounted even though at that time the directory did not exist
[18:05] <camilla> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[18:07] <genii> camilla: That is not a proper URL for pastebin
[18:07] <camilla> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50295/
[18:07] <camilla> Sorry
[18:08] <sd132> man, I wish my monitor driver supported my native resoloution for my monitor
[18:16] <quaternary> Hi
[18:17] <quaternary> Ive been just upgrading to feisty and an error occured and the upgrader crashed. What should I do to repair the damage?
[18:18] <zibrah3ed> have you used automatix
[18:19] <hdevalence> How do I configure muti-monitors without X going on the fritz?
[18:19] <quaternary> ive used adept manager
[18:19] <genii> camilla: I apologise for lag, work called me away fr a bit
[18:20] <genii> bah, they left already
[18:20] <zibrah3ed> quaternary: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[18:20]  * genii sips his coffee
[18:21] <quaternary> It 'thinks' it is feisty already, but it crashed on 61% of the installation process
[18:23] <camilla> Thanks guys it works.
[18:23] <camilla> I restarted and its there :D
[18:25] <genii> camilla: Good
[18:26] <matthew> I just installed kubuntu 7.10 but how can i make the wireless connect?
[18:26] <genii> camilla: Do you use more than 1 external storage?
[18:26] <matthew> My wireless adapter was working fine in the previous version.
[18:27] <comx> matthew: What wirless adapter do you have?
[18:28] <matthew> comx.. i don't know.. let me do an lspci
[18:28] <matthew> comx: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)
[18:30] <CrocoJet> how can I check if I have jre installed ?
[18:30] <quaternary> aptitude show packagename?
[18:30] <CrocoJet> I came from Fedora distro .. so little lost with .deb package
[18:30] <Schuenemann> CrocoJet, type java -version
[18:30] <CrocoJet> oh ok
[18:30] <CrocoJet> thanks
[18:31] <camilla> No, exept a 1G Mp3 player flsh
[18:31] <camilla> flsh
[18:32] <comx> matthew: Ok well you should just be able to go and slect the wireless network to join if it's working. If not I really can't help
[18:32] <camilla> It should be FLASH :)
[18:32] <matthew> another question--how can i get updates?  I don't see the usual update thingy on the lower right.
[18:33] <Dr_willis> i alwsya just do a..
[18:33] <genii> camilla: I ask because the hard disk may not always be seen as the disk sdf if you have some other usb thing which has storage plugged in. One day it may be sdf another day it may be seen as sdg or some other letter.
[18:33] <Dr_willis> sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get  upgrade
[18:34] <genii> camilla: The best solution in these cases is to use the disk UUID instead of the /dev/sdf1    name
[18:35] <camilla> Ok thats intresting. and how do I ..
[18:35] <camilla> Make that happen?
[18:36] <genii> camilla: To find the UUID, to do: blkid|grep sdf1
[18:36] <matthew> sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade  basically said nothing to be done..
[18:36] <matthew> This is not accurate.. it's a fresh install from CD
[18:36] <genii> camilla: Then you will have a line something like: /dev/sdf1: UUID="9a7ed732-eda0-20dd-24bf-68e341ce0fbd" TYPE="ntfs"
[18:37] <Dr_willis> heh. I removed all the uuids from, my fstabs. :)
[18:37] <Dr_willis> You could mount it by label also.
[18:37] <camilla>   /dev/sdf1: TYPE="ntfs"
[18:37] <matthew> Wow.. 7.10 is just really buggy... isn't it..
[18:38] <genii> camilla: What you would take from here is the part: UUID=9a7ed732-eda0-20dd-24bf-68e341ce0fbd             <--note no quotes in this         and then put that in the /etc/fstab for where it now has /dev/sdf1
[18:38] <Dr_willis> That seems odd.. The UUID for my NTFS disks is much shorter.
[18:38] <genii> camilla: So blkid|grep sdf1  gives no UUID?
[18:38] <comx> matthew: I found it that way so I kept the LTS version. runing on my computers.
[18:38] <Dr_willis> In my case it gives -->  /dev/hda1: UUID="C4CF0DF4CF0C50C" LABEL="XPBoot" TYPE="ntfs"
[18:39] <genii> Dr_willis: The length varies, I*'ve noticed
[18:39] <Dr_willis> !uuid
[18:39] <ubotu> To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)
[18:39] <camilla> Nope
[18:39] <Dr_willis> thats.. odd :)
[18:39] <matthew> comx: ok.. so i might need to return to the previous version (that's what you mean by LTS somehow?)
[18:40] <camilla> But the drive is busy copying my musik to the disk
[18:40] <genii> camilla: OK, so we cannot in this case substitute the UUID for sdf1, unfortunately.
[18:40] <comx> matthew: I doubt, But if things are working better then it shoulden't be turned down. I use the LTS version on Mac iBook because the new ones not to great on it
[18:41] <matthew> comx: ok.. well, let me try fixing things a bit.. I cannot get updates for some reason.. let me reboot and see if that does anything.
[18:41] <genii> camilla: The next thing would be to make an fstab entry for the other usb storage you use, and if it has a uuid to use that in it's fstab entry.
[18:41] <Dr_willis> Cool. I can use labels :) i reber how. example fstab entry with Labels
[18:41] <Dr_willis> LABEL="XPBoot" /media/windows ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
[18:42] <comx> matthew: Ok see what it does.
[18:45] <makuseru> is there anyway to get the old version of Gaim, before it was Pidgin?
[18:46] <BluesKaj> googletalk not working in pidgin ?
[18:46] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj, sometimes it doesn't for me
[18:46] <Raspberry> google talk works.. you have to change the server (default) from gmail.com to talk.google.com
[18:47] <camilla> The small mp3 player is always recognized
[18:47] <BluesKaj> ahha
[18:48] <AdamB> Hi, i'm having problems getting the virtualbox kernel module to work, I'm running hardy .
[18:48] <Dr_willis> AdamB,  check #Ubuntu+1 id say..
[18:49] <AdamB> Dr_willis: ok thanks
[18:50] <SatManUK> happy new year all and hears to continued support and exciting developments in 2008 - starting i guess with kde4
[18:50] <SatManUK> thanks for all your support in 2007
[18:51] <AdamB> ok ubuntu+1 seems to be a ghosttown >.>
[18:52] <AdamB> anyone running hardy and got virtualbox to work properly?
[18:52] <Dr_willis> AdamB,  best bet would be to check the Hardy forums.
[18:53] <bmack> ok i just installed ati-driver-installer-8.443.1-x86.x86_64.run, and when i try to open "ati catalyst control center" the little loading icons comes up but the options dont
[18:53] <bmack> and when i drag windows its slow
[18:57] <Dr_willis> id check that its actually using the new ati drivers.. You did reboot after installing them? or at least restarted X ?
[18:59] <genii> camilla: //back
[18:59] <genii> bah
[19:00]  * genii checks his caffeine intake
[19:00] <camilla> 20% left of the copying :-)
[19:00] <AdamB_> ok no luck on the forums, so before i post a message on the fourms, i'll explain the exact problem in hope that someone will save me : P
[19:00] <camilla> Ahh coffie I will make some..
[19:01] <genii> camilla: I do not think it matters for finding the UUID if it is copying or not... so it just seems the drive does not have one in this instance
[19:01] <AdamB_> i'm trying to compile the kernel modules for virtualbox as the ones in the repos don't match my current kernel and don't work, when i try to compile them i get up to about 30ish percent then get "run make oldconfig && make prepare on kernel src"
[19:02] <AdamB_> i try that and i just kill my kernel sources and have to reinstall them till they work again
[19:02] <MilitantPotato> Does anyone know why dolphin crashes every time I try to change the View Properties and apply them to all folders?
[19:03] <MilitantPotato> If it doesn't crash, it doesn't remember the change to detailed view in any directory
[19:04] <Dr_willis> !dolphin
[19:04] <ubotu> Dolphin, or more properly D3lphin, is the new default file manager for Kubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon. If you would like to make Konqueror your default file manager again, go to Konqueror - Settings menu - Configure Konqueror - File Associations and change the association for inode/directory and inode/system_directory to Konqueror at the top rather than Dolphin.
[19:04] <Dr_willis> :) one of the reasns i chaneged back to Konqueror
[19:04] <MilitantPotato> Ok cool, if it's common I'll go back aswell
[19:04] <camilla> I think I saw it before, let me try aagain
[19:07] <BluesKaj> Dolphin doesn't do much for me either , dunno why , but i can't see any advantages to it
[19:07] <Dr_willis> its Purtier! and more USer Friendly - due to its lack of features!
[19:07] <Dr_willis> :)
[19:07] <MilitantPotato> Lack of features is an understatement
[19:08] <BluesKaj> hehe :)
[19:08] <bmack> hey Blueskaj i got the fglrx driver installed just now when i scroll long pages its slow and when i drag windows its slow :s
[19:08] <BonesolTeraDyne> MilitantPotato: I'll agree with that.
[19:08] <MilitantPotato> It's like gnome but overdone
[19:08] <Dr_willis> underdone?
[19:08] <MilitantPotato> Way to simple
[19:08]  * Dr_willis is UnderWhelmed
[19:08] <Dr_willis> :)
[19:08] <Dr_willis> and it has loads of Special Defects
[19:09] <BluesKaj> bmack, did you install the ATI proprietary driver or the default restricted one in system settings ?
[19:09] <bmack> the one from the website
[19:09] <bmack> the installer
[19:09] <MilitantPotato> bmack: pages in firefox?
[19:09] <bmack> yes
[19:09] <MilitantPotato> Yea, that's a feature included in the drivers
[19:10] <BluesKaj> the ATI driver site ?
[19:10] <MilitantPotato> turn off Compiz
[19:10] <bmack> ati-driver-installer-8.443.1-x86.x86_64.run
[19:10] <bmack> how do i turn off compiz
[19:10] <MilitantPotato> Compiz + the ATI drivers from their site makes video output break and firefox cause xorg to use 100% usage and lag.
[19:11] <BluesKaj> bmack,, that driver is prolly exprimental
[19:11] <MilitantPotato> It is and showing it.
[19:11] <bmack> so i should use the one in rescricted drivers
[19:11] <BluesKaj> which grafix card again bmack ?
[19:11] <bmack> when booted back it said the driver was in use
[19:12] <bmack> ati radeon hd 2600
[19:13] <zipper> !themes
[19:13] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[19:13] <BluesKaj> bmack, you have a more recent and hier end card than i have , but I had nothing but probs with the drivers from the STI site ...so I went with the default restricted one.
[19:13] <bmack> i see
[19:13] <BluesKaj> ATI site
[19:13] <bmack> how can i reinstall all of this
[19:14] <BluesKaj> bmack, hang on for a sec
[19:14] <bmack> well when i installed the default was set to VESA
[19:14] <bmack> you mean that one?
[19:15] <rohan> anyone having problems with frostwire in gutsy? i'm having strange behaviour in the search dialog
[19:15] <rohan> i can't type "Artist" in audio search at all.. pointer automatically goes back to "Title" field
[19:15] <rohan> i don't have compiz installed
[19:15] <BluesKaj> bmack, scroll down til you find the uninstall instructions, https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.40.4-inst.html
[19:16] <bmack> ok
[19:16] <BluesKaj> no bmack , the fglrx driver you installed previously is the one you want
[19:20] <enry> goodbye, happy new year!!
[19:21] <MilitantPotato> Dr_willis: Thanks, I think that fixed my last issue i've had with KDE :
[19:23] <bmack> ok so now just re-enable it in restricted drivers?
[19:25] <BluesKaj> no patience !
[19:41] <bmack> BluesKaj you still here?
[19:42] <bmack> http://www.pastebin.ca/840368
[19:42] <bmack> im getting that error at startup
[19:43] <Tommy22> hey guys
[19:43] <bmack> i have to edit xorg.conf and change fglrx back to vesa in order to boot
[19:43] <Tommy22> there was a program to change the resoution of the screen immediatly ... not in the xorg.conf file,  this program allowed me to dynamically change the resolution while working
[19:43] <bmack> http://www.pastebin.ca/840372 is a copy of my xorg.conf
[19:43] <Tommy22> does anyone of you know its name?
[19:43] <Tommy22> I can't recall it
[19:44] <ardchoille> Tommy22: xrandr ?
[19:44] <Tommy22> ardchoille, maybe ... lemme search for it in the repos
[19:45] <jussi01> Tommy22: I dont think its in the repos yet.
[19:45] <Tommy22> ardchoille, nope, it's been an other programm,  but xrandr seems to be very interesting,  it could give me a good start in solving the problem
[19:45] <Tommy22> jussi01, it was already installed by default
[19:45] <Tommy22> Question:
[19:46] <jussi01> Tommy22: displayconfig-gtk ?
[19:46] <jussi01> !info displayconfig-gtk
[19:46] <ubotu> displayconfig-gtk: Simple tool to change xserver settings. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.7 (gutsy), package size 48 kB, installed size 604 kB
[19:46] <subopt> Where can i find the detailed package listings for Gutsy and Dapper?
[19:46] <ardchoille> Tommy22: Maybe krandtray
[19:46] <Tommy22> what could be the reason, why my screen was able to show  1024x768 when I installed Gutsy Gibbon,  it also worked the following weeks,  and since about 5 days,  I can only show 800x600 ?
[19:46] <jussi01> subopt: archive.ubuntu.com
[19:47] <Tommy22> I already edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf  to only show 1024x768 but it still comes up with 800x600
[19:47] <Tommy22> ardchoille, thx I will search for krandtray
[19:47] <Tommy22> jussi01, same goes for you,  thank you, I search for it
[19:47] <ardchoille> Tommy22: Sorry, it's krandrtray and you may have it already.
[19:48] <Tommy22> great, thats it
[19:48] <Tommy22> but why doesn't it offer anything higher than 800x600 ?
[19:48] <Tommy22> I realldy do not have any clue
[19:48] <Tommy22> it worked in the past
[19:48] <ardchoille> Tommy22: After editing xorg.conf, did you restart X?
[19:49] <Tommy22> ardchoille, for sure
[19:49] <ardchoille> ok
[19:49] <Tommy22> I did a complete restart of the system
[19:49] <Tommy22> but the problem came BEFORE editing xorg.conf
[19:49] <ardchoille> That'll do it :)
[19:49] <Tommy22> so again:
[19:49] <Tommy22> after installing Gutsy,  1024x768 worked
[19:49] <subopt> jussi01: Does that mean that the package versions are the same across ubuntu7, kubuntu7, xubuntu7, etc?
[19:49] <Tommy22> from one day to the other, I got a resolution of only 800x600
[19:50] <sep1318> subopt: they should be, the repos are the same. the only differences between the three is the default desktop environment
[19:51] <jussi01> subopt: correct - all the packages are available to all of them
[19:51] <subopt> sep1318: thanks
[19:51] <subopt> jussi01: thanks
[19:51] <sep1318> np, subopt
[19:51] <jussi01> subopt: just the package on the disk are different
[19:51] <sep1318> true
[19:51] <ardchoille> subopt: And, are you aware that it's not a good idea to mix packages from different releases (Dapper, Edgy, Feisty, Gutsy, etc)?
[19:53] <lokos> hi
[19:54] <subopt> ardchoille: No, but i'm not trying to do that. Just trying to get the version numbers of all the Python related stuff, so i can know which release of Kubuntu to install. From this discussion it sounds like i can get the Kubuntu version info from the Ubuntu package listings. Do i have that right?
[19:54] <lokos> can some1 help me ?
[19:54] <lokos> ?
[19:55] <sep1318> subopt: what versions are you torn between using?
[19:55] <lokos> i can't create a proper torrent with createtorrent
[19:55] <lokos> it says "it's not a bencoded file"
[19:56] <zipper> Whats the easiest way to change the looks of default kde?
[19:56] <martijn81> lokos: use KTorrent then
[19:56] <lokos> ktorrent is gui :/
[19:56] <martijn81> zipper: by going into kcontrol
[19:56] <martijn81> lokos: i know, hehe
[19:57] <subopt> I'm leaning towards v7 of Kubuntu. It looks like it comes default w/Python2.5, and has PyQt4, too. I'd like to stick w/straight Debian, but i can't get any of the Python add-ons to install to Python2.5; they all compile/configure to Edge's default (Python2.4).
[19:57] <logd> hi could some1 help me setting up a wifi ad-hoc connection betwen  pcs ?
[19:58] <jussi01> subopt: 7.? there is 7.04 feisty fawn and 7.10 gutsy gibbon
[19:58] <subopt> jussi01: Guess i meant gibbon. Heron's the bleeding edge, right?
[19:59] <sep1318> subopt: yeah. gutsy has python 2.5.1 (i just checked)
[19:59] <sep1318> and a lot of addons you can install. bindings for stuff, etc in the repos
[19:59] <subopt> sep1318: Guess i'll go w/that, unless i can figure out how to fix Debian/Edge.
[19:59] <zipper> martijn81, ...and?
[20:00] <zipper> martijn81, i know i need to install a package to get themes, but cant remember which one =/
[20:00] <W8TAH> hi folks -- im trying to view the following page http://www.wkyc.com/video/weather/live/local_radar.aspx
[20:00] <W8TAH> its aksing for a plugin x-mplayer2
[20:00] <W8TAH> but i tired sudo apt-get install x-mplayer2 and it said it dont know what that is
[20:00] <ardchoille> zipper: kdeartwork is a package with a lot of themes. Also you can search the repos for specific themes.
[20:01] <W8TAH> im in firefox
[20:02] <ardchoille> W8TAH: sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[20:02] <W8TAH> ardchoille: thank you -- happy new year
[20:03] <zipper> ardchoille, ah, thanks
[20:03] <ardchoille> W8TAH: yw
[20:03] <ardchoille> zipper: yw
[20:11] <W8TAH> !jre
[20:11] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository. Enable the backports repository on Edgy to install sun-java6-jre. Please don't use Adept to install Java if you are on Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) or earlier.
[20:11] <jpatrick> anyone know why irssi gives me this for certain channels? even ones I join: http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=we10cz2.png ?
[20:12] <ardchoille> jpatrick: I use irssi, what are you referring to? The numbers (Act:blah) at the bottom?
[20:12] <zipper> Trying to install a theme, getting this error: "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!" - What package could i be missing?
[20:13] <jpatrick> ardchoille: the blank channel window
[20:13] <marcondes> mdmd
[20:14] <ardchoille> jpatrick: Not sure. Is this a new theme?
[20:15] <jpatrick> ardchoille: it's the mithru theme, but even /join brings up blanks, or just opens and then closes
[20:16] <ardchoille> jpatrick: Oh, wow, not sure. Perhaps the good folks in #irssi can help ?
[20:17] <jpatrick> ardchoille: don't think I can even join there
[20:17] <BluesKaj> jpatrick, so which client are you using now ?
[20:17] <ardchoille> jpatrick: Did this happen after switching themes?
[20:17] <jpatrick> ardchoille: yep, failed, just opened window and closed
[20:17] <jpatrick> ardchoille: happened since I added more channels to autojoin
[20:18] <jpatrick> BluesKaj: irssi
[20:18] <jpatrick> BluesKaj: just autojoining works for some
[20:18] <BluesKaj> ok
[20:18] <BluesKaj> hmm, gonna try it
[20:19] <jpatrick> ardchoille: I going to rm my config and try again
[20:19] <ardchoille> jpatrick: Don't rm it, just rename it in case you need it later
[20:20] <jpatrick> hmm, too late
[20:20] <jpatrick> not ;)
[20:20] <jpatrick> brb
[20:23] <patrick__> ardchoille: hmm, same, even with default
[20:23] <Tomasu[BAF]> does anyone know how to set the "bit rate" via knetworkmanager? it seems to always set 24Mb when both the adapter and ap can and will do 54Mb
[20:23] <ardchoille> jpatrick: I've never seen that before
[20:34] <jpatrick_> ardchoille: we've got it: Cannot join to channel #xubuntu-es (You have joined to too many channels)
[20:34] <ardchoille> jpatrick_: aha
[20:35] <jpatrick_> pity
[20:35] <ardchoille> jpatrick_: Glad you got it sorted.
[20:35] <jpatrick_> ardchoille: kinda, I need those channels ;;)
[20:40] <kubuntunewbie> !info telnet
[20:40] <ubotu> telnet: The telnet client. In component main, is standard. Version 0.17-35ubuntu1 (gutsy), package size 64 kB, installed size 184 kB
[20:41] <kubuntunewbie> whats the name of kubuntu's built in telnet client?
[20:41] <kubuntunewbie> i wanna get up on it
[20:41] <kubuntunewbie> telnet rulez
[20:42] <genii> I'm pretty sure the bot just told you the name is "telnet"
[20:42] <Yorokobi> kubuntunewbie, um ... telnet at the command prompt courtesy of Konsole.
[20:42] <kubuntunewbie> yes, it did but i dont know where to find it or how to load it because im dumb/new
[20:43] <Schuenemann> just type telnet at konsole
[20:43] <kubuntunewbie> ohhh, thats easy.
[20:43] <kubuntunewbie> thanks
[20:52] <Voyage_>  how do i configure gallery2 with fastcgi is there a howto
[20:53] <BluesKaj> ok, back ...no more snow for a while, i hope
[20:54] <girolamo> !italiano
[20:54] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese.  I think there's only 1.5cm of ice to chip through :)
[20:56]  * Dr_willis wakes up
[20:57] <Dr_willis> 1.5cm! thats like... err...  10 Ft!
[20:57] <Dr_willis> :)
[20:57]  * Dr_willis moved the decimal point too far.
[20:57] <Yorokobi> yep
[21:01] <girolamo> buon anno a tutti
[21:08] <Yorokobi> c
[21:10] <NickPresta> Where would be the best place to report a problem with a package (missing dependency)? Should I file a bug in LP or should I ask in #MOTU?
[21:10] <bmack> hey BluesKaj im still haveing trouble installing the ati accel. driver in restricted drivers at boot i get this error http://www.pastebin.ca/840368
[21:11] <yuriy> NickPresta: first file a bug in LP
[21:11] <bmack> http://www.pastebin.ca/840372 is my xorg.conf
[21:13] <NickPresta> yuriy, well, I'm not even sure it's a bug. Perhaps I'm missing something. I installed xcdroast (sudo apt-get install xcdroast). It wanted to install `cdda2wav` and `xcdroast`. Okay, did that. I start up xcdroast and I get an error about missing `icedax` and some missing libraries. I had to install icedax to fix it. Shouldn't icedax be a dependency of xcdroast?
[21:14] <yuriy> probably
[21:14] <yuriy> you could ask in MOTU as well i guess
[21:14] <NickPresta> okay
[21:16] <Voyage_> iam the only user on ubuntu. am i the root?
[21:16] <bmack> how do i run .deb files
[21:17] <aske> bmack » with "dpkg -I *.deb" command
[21:17] <bmack> ok
[21:17] <aske> dpkg -i *.deb
[21:22] <BluesKaj> bmack, try this tutorial ,use "Method 1"..it should solve your driver install prob
[21:22] <BluesKaj> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-help/110698-ati-video-card-install-guide.html
[21:22] <bmack> ok
[21:26] <kirk> hey ppl
[21:28] <kirk> anyone here?
[21:29] <jussi01> yep
[21:29] <kirk> maybe i could get some advice...
[21:29] <kirk> i upgraded to 7.10, and now no kind of videos will play
[21:30] <kirk> well they play, the sound is fine, but the picture is scrambled
[21:30] <jussi01> kirk: hmmm, are you using compiz/beryl
[21:30] <jussi01> ?
[21:30] <kirk> no, fresh install
[21:30] <Dr_willis> Ive seen some issues on that with nvidia cards.
[21:30] <jussi01> kirk: video card?
[21:31] <kirk> same system i was using before, no changes were made, i just upgraded
[21:31] <kirk> i dont know what kind of video card is in there
[21:31] <kirk> but its the same one that played everything before
[21:32] <Dr_willis> well if its an ati or nvidia card - you proberly should install the proper ati, or nvidia drivers..
[21:32] <Dr_willis> the output of 'lspci' shoud give some clues on what video card it has.
[21:33] <mahasamoot> the run command dialog stinks, is there some way to make it more like a terminal?
[21:33] <Dr_willis> why not use a terminal?
[21:33] <kirk_> i have no idea how to install the proper drivers
[21:33] <Dr_willis> like YaKuake (i think)
[21:33] <Dr_willis> !find yakuake
[21:33] <ubotu> Found: yakuake
[21:34] <ardchoille> kirk_: Find out what kind of video card it is and then visit: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:34] <Dr_willis> kirk,  well you need to figure out what card ya got first..  You could just run that restricted-manager tool (i forget where its at in the menus) it may tell you and auto0get the drivers
[21:34] <ardchoille> yakuake is nice
[21:34] <kirk_> how do u see what kind of video card u have
[21:34] <BluesKaj> kirk_,check for video card, in the konsole : lspci | grep video
[21:35] <kirk_> ty
[21:35] <mahasamoot> Dr_willis: I do, but some times I want to run a command and have it go away again... I guess you're right yahuake, might be the best way
[21:35] <kirk_> that command had no output
[21:35] <Dr_willis> mahasamoot,  i think theres a command line applet or 2 you can put in the panel also
[21:35] <ardchoille> kirk_: lspci | grep VGA
[21:36] <nilom> hola
[21:36] <nilom> c'è qualcuno?
[21:36] <nilom> salve a tutti!!!
[21:36] <mahasamoot> Dr_willis: that sounds perfect
[21:36] <jussi01> !es | nilom
[21:36] <ubotu> nilom: Si busca ayuda en español por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, allí obtendrá más ayuda.
[21:36] <kirk_> VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200]
[21:36] <ardchoille> !it
[21:36] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[21:36] <nilom> ah ok
[21:36] <nilom> it's ok
[21:36] <ardchoille> !ati | kirk_
[21:36] <ubotu> kirk_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:37] <mahasamoot> Dr_willis: what's the best way to find pannel applets?
[21:37] <jussi01> mahasamoot: why not just run the command with a trailing & ?
[21:37] <nilom> there is some people that can help me????
[21:37] <ardchoille> nilom: Help with what?
[21:37] <nilom> i have the problem with my wi fi
[21:37] <Dr_willis> mahasamoot,  fire up the package manager and search. :) a lot are allready isntalled.
[21:37] <nilom> a*
[21:38] <Dr_willis> mahasamoot,  right click on the panel, add applet...
[21:38] <mahasamoot> jussi01: sometimes they give a constent stream of data to the terminal, that I don't want
[21:38] <ardchoille> !wifi | nilom
[21:38] <ubotu> nilom: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[21:38] <jussi01> mahasamoot: try running a progeam with a trailing "&"
[21:38]  * BluesKaj edits the video texr commands
[21:38] <jussi01> ie. konqueror &
[21:39] <nilom> but...no i have to load the wpa_supplicant but i dont know how!!!!
[21:39] <mahasamoot> jussi01: yes, that's a good tip, thanks... but some programs still send a consant stream of messages making the terminal unusable after that
[21:40] <jussi01> mahasamoot: it shouldnt. it should just run in the background then
[21:40] <Dr_willis> it depends on the program
[21:41] <Dr_willis> and if its using stdout, or stderr, and other things
[21:41] <ardchoille> jussi01: Try kmail &
[21:41] <Dr_willis> and yes. with the right options/piping you can send all output to Null. :)
[21:41] <jussi01> hmmm
[21:42] <jussi01> My apologies, that will keep it running after closing the terminal.
[21:42] <mahasamoot> azureus & > /dev/null
[21:43] <mahasamoot> ?
[21:44] <Dr_willis> try it and see
[21:45] <mahasamoot> Dr_willis: good point :-)
[21:46] <kirk_> arrggg.
[21:46] <kirk_> okay, my video card is VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200]
[21:46] <kirk_> how would one go about getting videos to play?
[21:47] <Dr_willis> You proberly should install the fglrx drivers, Its possible its a dri issue makeing them not play properly
[21:47] <Dr_willis> I have a x200m in my laptop. it works. :)
[21:48] <kirk_> lol... english please
[21:48] <kirk_> flgrx drivers
[21:48] <kirk_> lost me
[21:49] <MilitantPotato> kirk enable restricted drivers yet?
[21:49] <nuxil> o.0
[21:49] <kirk_> no...
[21:49] <MilitantPotato> it's in K menu>System Settings, advanced tab
[21:50] <kirk_> betcha thats it
[21:51] <MilitantPotato> no idea, but that's one way to go about installing ATI's drivers (fglrx)
[21:51] <MilitantPotato> I'd check to make sure your video card is supported
[21:51] <MilitantPotato> !ati
[21:51] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[21:51] <kirk_> video card worked perfect on 7.04
[21:51] <kirk_> enabled ati driver in restricted driver list, brb needs restart
[21:51] <kirk_> thanks
[21:52] <MilitantPotato> gl
[21:57] <Novell> how do I rebuild the kubuntu kernel properly ? I've tried getting the linux-source but couldn't get it compiled like the stock one from packages
[22:00] <Schuenemann> I have wine 0.9.33 and I see there is 0.9.41 available. Shouldn't it warn me about the update?
[22:01] <BluesKaj_> the update is ok , but it seems abit buggy ...having a few more crashes than usual on some apps on wine
[22:01] <matthew> What package contains aclocal ?
[22:01] <matthew> Is there a way to find out?
[22:01] <matthew> I need to know what to install to get it.
[22:02] <Schuenemann> BluesKaj_, I haven't seen any update for a while
[22:02] <Sanne> matthew: on packages.ubuntu.com in section "Search the contents of packages"
[22:02] <MilitantPotato> !info aclocal
[22:02] <ubotu> Package aclocal does not exist in gutsy
[22:02] <Sanne> matthew: you can search for files and will get the packages that provide it
[22:03] <MilitantPotato> hmm
[22:04] <MilitantPotato> I'm on wine 9.52
[22:04] <Sanne> matthew: but it seems there's no aclocal on *ubuntu, it might be specific to another distro. What is it supposed to do?
[22:05] <MilitantPotato> http://nixdoc.net/man-pages/Linux/aclocal.1.html
[22:07] <combinio> i've just reinstall my kub-7.04 and can't install Flashplugin-nonfree cuz "md5sum mismatch install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz" :/
[22:07] <Sanne> ahh! matthew, you need autoconf. You seem to want to compile something. So you need also build-essential, might also pull in autoconf.
[22:07] <combinio> can someone help, pls ? :}
[22:09] <Perseid> Hi all. I'm trying to get the NVIdia drivers installed on gutsy but I don't see te new Restricted Drivers Manager.
[22:09] <Tm_T> !nvidia | Perseid
[22:09] <ubotu> Perseid: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[22:09] <combinio> ** i formatted only "/" partiotion. "/home" has NOT been touched
[22:10] <Tm_T> !flash | combinio
[22:10] <ubotu> combinio: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - Flash 9 is now available in dapper-backports and edgy-backports - See also !Restricted and !Gnash
[22:10] <ubotu> The Flash plugin installation is currently broken. This is due to Adobe changing the tar file that the package downloads. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397 if you need to fix this immediately, but it's recommended to wait for an official fix.
[22:11] <Schuenemann> !gnash
[22:11] <ubotu> An open source flash replacement.  It is still beta software. For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/
[22:11] <combinio> Tm_T: ok, will try that now...
[22:11] <Tm_T> combinio: see both messages
[22:11] <slow-motion> schon mal guten rutsch und frohes neues jahr
[22:11] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: Gnash is <3
[22:11] <combinio> Tm_T: in second message all is explained - thanks Tm_T :))
[22:11] <Schuenemann> what does <3 mean?
[22:12] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: it's a heart
[22:12] <Schuenemann> Tm_T, and what do you mean it's a heart?
[22:12] <BluesKaj> combinio, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=636397...this might work
[22:13] <combinio> BluesKaj: yeap, ubotu also showed me that way. hope it will be usefull ;P
[22:13] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: I sorta like/love it
[22:14] <Schuenemann> Tm_T, ahh... how is its development?
[22:14] <Schuenemann> I mean the progress
[22:14] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: no idea, I like it, because I don't have to see any flash, I'm happy
[22:14] <Schuenemann> hah
[22:15] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: "For current status or for more info http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/"
[22:15] <matthew> Sanne: ok.. installed build-essential, but aclocal is still not there that i can see..
[22:16] <Schuenemann> Tm_T, I'd rather hear it from a user
[22:16] <Tm_T> Schuenemann: well don't listen to me then
[22:16] <Schuenemann> I won't
[22:17] <Sanne> matthew: then you would also need package automake
[22:18] <Sanne> matthew: what do you want to compile, btw?
[22:18] <matthew> Sanne: yes.. finally.. thanks!
[22:19] <matthew> Sanne: It's the Glest source from svn.. on sourceforge
[22:19] <Sanne> matthew: you're welcome
[22:19] <matthew> Sanne: This is a game that there really should be a package for.. it's owesome.
[22:19] <Sanne> matthew: ok, just making sure you don't compile something that can be installed via a package
[22:19]  * Sanne goes looking
[22:20] <jussi01> !find glest
[22:20] <ubotu> Package/file glest does not exist in gutsy
[22:20] <jussi01> well then...
[22:20] <Schuenemann> something that requires code compiling can't be good
[22:20] <Schuenemann> it's evil
[22:21] <combinio> how can i check what crashes my *.deb auto instalation ? it looks it doesn't work. everytime when i'm trying to install *.deb package it crashes ://
[22:22] <Sanne> matthew: looks very nice, good luck with compiling
[22:22] <combinio> ater INSTALL PACKAGE command the window just disappear after second and nothing happened ?!
[22:22] <combinio> can't install anything ?! :///
[22:23] <nuxil> open a terminal
[22:23] <Schuenemann> matthew, it's beautiful
[22:23] <nuxil> type dpkg --configure -a
[22:23] <combinio> nuxil: done
[22:24] <nuxil> combinio, you know that *.deb means all files right?
[22:24] <combinio> nuxil: hhmm... let's see was it helpful :P
[22:24] <combinio> nuxil: yeap i know - i mean ALL files :(
[22:24] <combinio> since 2 weeks coudn't install ANYTHIN' :/
[22:25] <Athena> hi
[22:25] <combinio> hello :)
[22:25] <Athena> Anyone here good with printers...or have an idea where I can get help with one?
[22:25] <nuxil> combinio, did it do anything after that command?`or did it just return to the prompt?
[22:25] <combinio> did NOTHING (?) :)
[22:26] <combinio> crap! didn't work that command :/
[22:26] <combinio> still same bug :[
[22:26] <nuxil> then try to force install the deb files
[22:26] <combinio> nuxil: sounds good but how to ? ;P
[22:26] <nuxil> its not recomended to do tho..
[22:26] <Athena> I picked up an HP printer on boxing day...i figured with HP is should be compatible...but it won't print linux stuff (except once, not sure what i did...but i know it can do it)
[22:27] <nuxil> combinio, man dpkg :p
[22:27] <combinio> nuxil: it looks i have no choice. special for that i've just reinstalled my system but it didn't help so i'm desperate now :{
[22:28] <Athena> what is the problem combino?
[22:28] <combinio> nuxil: and there is no some shorter way to execute than reading ALL that manual ? ;]
[22:28] <nuxil> heh
[22:28] <combinio> Athena: my dpkg manager is crashed. can't install *.deb packages at all :/
[22:28] <combinio> nuxil: u know, some simple command as noobs love so :P
[22:29] <nuxil> combinio,  what does this tell you?
[22:29] <nuxil> sudo apt-get install --fix-missing
[22:29] <Athena> ok i'm new to Kubuntu...(but i did use ubuntu and more recently mepis)...have you tried adding a synaptic manager instead of adept
[22:29] <Athena> or something that would get you there (i hate adept)
[22:30] <combinio> nuxil: it tells nothing. 0 at all nothing happened [?] :/
[22:30] <Thecks> I can't seem to get Flash working with Opera:o
[22:30] <Athena> hmm try going to swiftfox and using there auto installer, it might tell you if you can actually put something on, as it does this automatically
[22:30] <combinio> Athena: no i haven't :D
[22:30] <combinio> Athena: but i will try if nothing's gonna help me with that :///
[22:30] <nuxil> combinio, ok try apt-get update
[22:31] <nuxil> combinio, dpkg --force-help
[22:31] <Sanne> combinio: often, terminal commands don't tell anything when they execute successfully.
[22:31] <Athena> combino: how do i open a line with you?
[22:31] <combinio> what line u mean ? :D
[22:31] <jussi01> !pm | Athena
[22:31] <ubotu> Athena: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit AND help you. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first, some find it rude.
[22:31] <Athena> I'm not familiar with IRC...your red comments are just to me yes?
[22:31] <combinio> nuxil: oho! found something interestin :D
[22:31] <combinio> Athena: yes :P
[22:32] <Athena> ubotu, thanks i'm new and still learning
[22:32] <jussi01> !bot | Athena
[22:32] <ubotu> Athena: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[22:32] <combinio> Athena: if u want write something to me write my nick in message ;P
[22:32] <Athena> ok combino can you use a browser
[22:32] <combinio> ubotu i only a bot ;P hehe :D
[22:32] <Athena> yah she told me
[22:32] <Athena> or he
[22:32] <jussi01> it
[22:32] <combinio> Athena: ok ;P
[22:33] <nuxil> Sanne, actualy $? usaly returns if commands are sucsessfuly
[22:33] <jussi01> !tab | Athena
[22:33] <Athena> go to google and put in swiftfox ( this could be a waste of time, but i think it will help, maybe)
[22:33] <ubotu> Athena: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[22:33] <Athena> ! tab means what?
[22:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tab means what? - try searching on http://ubotu.ubuntu-nl.org/factoids.cgi
[22:33] <Sanne> nuxil: yes, the command should return to the prompt, but it need not say that all is well :)
[22:33] <combinio> nuxil: except few ERRORS after apt-get update there are also few Public Keys which are missing :))
[22:33] <nuxil> Sanne, true
[22:34] <nuxil> combinio, paste the errors to psatebin.ca
[22:34] <Athena> oh so google.com
[22:34] <nuxil> *pastebin.ca
[22:34] <Athena> oh so tab:google.com
[22:34] <combinio> nuxil: doind that :)
[22:34] <Athena> as an aside...sounds like you are stuck in dependency hell...i was there once
[22:35] <matthew> What package contains the x libraries and headers?  I don't see it in adept, using "xlib"
[22:35] <Athena> and have a printer that won't work (GRR)
[22:35] <jussi01> Athena: which model?
[22:36] <Athena> It's an HP...go figure i thought that would make it not so hard. It's an LaswerJet 1100A...which is an older buisness model i think...it will also scan, but i just want it to print right now
[22:36] <Athena> heh combino...humour me try swiftfox...if it will install your apt is working somewhat
[22:37] <Athena> (the auto installer uses it)
[22:37] <Schuenemann> swiftfox is urban legend
[22:37] <Athena> i use it all the time!
[22:37] <jussi01> Athena: have you looked at: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-1100
[22:37] <biovore> kinda like duke nukem forever
[22:38] <Athena> my printer shows up...but nothing will print using the suggested drivers...although it printed one page from my computer once, and sometimes you can see that it's talking
[22:38] <Athena> the installer uses apt...so if you can use the installer included some of your apt is working
[22:38] <Athena> (and it might fix part of the apt i have no idea...if you hate it uninstall it after)
[22:38] <combinio> !pastebin
[22:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)
[22:39] <Athena> should i be pastebinning? (sorry very new to IRC)
[22:39] <Athena> ;-)
[22:39] <jussi01> Athena: only if you have 3 lines or more to paste
[22:40] <combinio> nuxil: hope you're gonna know what's going on. i was trying to translate a little (i use polish language ;P) http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50323/
[22:40] <Athena> jussi01: frustrating when you have an idea, but it's ignored
[22:41] <Athena> oops sorry
[22:41] <combinio> anyway - why don't u spend Sylvester time somewhere else ? in some more friendly place ?? :}
 is this how you talk to one person?
[22:41] <jussi01> combinio: looks like you are getting some 404's from medibuntu.
[22:41] <combinio> ( i didn't mean that this place is not friendly but, u know ;P )
[22:42] <combinio> Athena: to everyone ;P
[22:42] <combinio> jussi01: what does it mean to my problem ? :D
[22:42] <nuxil> combinio, you beed updating the gpg keys..
[22:42] <combinio> jussi01: cuz it saying to me nothing ;P
[22:42] <jussi01> Athena: no, try typing the first few letters of jussi01 ie. juss then press tab
[22:42] <Athena> jussi01: is this it
[22:42] <combinio> nuxil: so now i'm gonna update those public keys
[22:42] <nuxil> combinio, remove the 3 last lines from you /etc/apt/source.list
[22:42] <jussi01> combinio: remove the medibuntu lines from your sources
[22:42] <Athena> medibuntu can be finicky
[22:43] <jussi01> Athena: correct.  that shows everyone you are talking to me
[22:43] <nuxil> combinio, go to the site you found thouse links from
[22:43] <combinio> jussi01 & nuxil - doing that....
[22:43] <jussi01> Athena: also, it you type: /msg jussi01 then you will get a private message to me.
[22:43] <Athena> just to ask...why does Kubuntu use Adept... (i moved here because I thought maybe it would get my printer working...Mepis uses synaptic)
[22:44] <jussi01> Athena: but you must be registered for that
[22:44] <combinio> nuxil: last three positions have been deleted :))
[22:44] <combinio> nuxil: now update the public keys ? ;>
[22:44] <nuxil> combinio, To be sure your doing things right.. past you source.list here
[22:44] <nuxil> erm
[22:44] <nuxil> on pastebin
[22:44] <nuxil> :p
[22:44] <Athena> did you install from both adept and synaptic...that could have caused your problem combinio (i did that once...big problems)
[22:44] <jussi01> !register > Athena
[22:45] <combinio> Athena: think NOT. i have only Adept. no Synaptic here ;P
[22:45] <starscreamd> Is it possible to restore group policies on Kubunt? I knda borked mine... :\
[22:45] <kenny> anyone know of a way round the dreaded No GLXFBConfig for depth 32 in comiz using nvidia driver?
[22:45] <combinio> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/50324/ << my sources.list
[22:45] <jussi01> kenny: set depth 24?
[22:45] <combinio> be back in 30 seconds ;P
[22:46] <kenny> jussi01: done it :) and all the Option stuff in xorg :(
[22:46] <Athena> combino...could you download synaptic...it might be a way to fix the problem
[22:46] <jussi01> combinio: go to adept -> manage repositories -> thrird party -> remove any medibuntu stuff
[22:46] <Athena> (it could make it worse i guess but it already sounds bad)
[22:47] <Athena> (it is possible to do this KDE...that's how i know it can cause problems...
[22:47] <jussi01> Athena: adept is in there as it is qt. synaptic is gtk. they both do the same thing
[22:47] <combinio> jussi01: i thought that i've already deleted mediubuntu stuff from sources.list ;P
[22:47] <jussi01> combinio: then sudo apt-get update and try what ever you were tryng again
[22:48] <Athena> yes, but synaptic offers way more programs...more choice, and sometimes a better idea of what you could be missing
[22:48] <combinio> Athena: i'll do it if no other ways help
[22:48] <jussi01> Athena: no, thats incorrect
[22:48] <Athena> oh ok juss maybe i never got adept working right
[22:48] <Athena> lol
[22:49] <starscreamd> Adept works as well as S/Kynaptic for me..
[22:49] <combinio> nuxil: now it shows there are two public keys missing ://
[22:49] <jussi01> adept offers exactly the same programs as synaptic, my guess is you are talking about the add/remove programs dialouge
[22:49] <combinio> nuxil: add them ?
[22:49] <Athena> so anyone know how to get a printer to work...when it won't work with the standard, made for the printer drivers?
[22:49] <Athena> juss, Yes i think so
[22:49] <Dr_willis> Athena,  you expecing a macigal wand? :)
[22:49] <Dr_willis> Athena,  what kind of printer?
[22:49] <Athena> no, just some ideas...i've run out of them
[22:50] <Athena> after more than a few hours
[22:50] <Dr_willis> If you say canon - im going to scream
[22:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[22:50] <jussi01> Athena: have you tried setting it up through the web interface - sometimes that works a little better
[22:50] <nuxil> combinio, yes add them if you know them.. i dnont know them
[22:50] <Athena> HP Laserjet 1100A
[22:50] <Dr_willis> Athena,  connected by usb? or parallel?
[22:50] <Athena> You mean go to the HP site? It sends me to a sourceforge site, and that didn't help
[22:50] <Athena> parallel
[22:50] <jussi01> Athena: localhost:631
[22:50] <Athena> ?
[22:50] <combinio> nuxil: i'm gonna risk ;P hope that nothing bad is gonna happen if i don't know them ^^'
[22:50] <Dr_willis> Hmm
[22:50] <jussi01> Athena: go to that address
[22:51] <Athena> just type that in, in a browser or here?
[22:51] <jussi01> in a browser
[22:51] <ardchoille> combinio: The medibuntu entry in your sources list is incorrect
[22:51] <Dr_willis> ive found the gnome cups admin tool a little easier touse then the kde one.  CUPS has its web interface on the http://localhost:631  address
[22:51] <Dr_willis> makes it rather easy to use.
[22:51] <nuxil> combinio, not likely.. didnt look like standar repos
[22:51] <combinio> ardchoille: wait... check that out...
[22:51] <combinio> nuxil: so where they come from!? :} i copied that from some forum ;P
[22:52] <nuxil> aha
[22:52] <ardchoille> combinio: The proper entry is:  deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free
[22:52] <nuxil> combinio,  go to that forum,.. its probealy a link to ther to the key
[22:52] <ardchoille> combinio: And you need to add the medibuntu key before using the repo
[22:52] <Athena> giving the spot you gave me a try...looks like it might make better sense than the page HP suggested!
[22:52] <ardchoille> combinio: wget -q http://packages.medibuntu.org/medibuntu-key.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[22:53] <nuxil> combinio, you can safly remove thouse repos you added
[22:53] <combinio> wait ardchoille! u'r talking to noob! :P i'm on that site and can see those key ... how to add them ? :)
[22:53] <starscreamd> Can someone please help me with properly configuring my group policies?
[22:53] <combinio> ardchoille: ok :)
[22:53] <Athena> combino: it will tell you what programs won't work if you uninstall...they are likely programs you don't need
[22:54] <combinio> nuxil: delete them ? ;]
[22:54] <combinio> ardchoille: keys added :: OK :)
[22:54] <combinio> nuxil: so where can i get from new repos ??
[22:54] <ardchoille> combinio: Ok, do you have the proper medibuntu entry in sources.list?
[22:54] <Athena> ok the web page says Device URI
[22:54] <combinio> ardchoille: checking out....
[22:55] <ardchoille> combinio:  deb http://packages.medibuntu.org/ gutsy free non-free
[22:55] <Athena> do i need to check that on my computer?
[22:55] <Dr_willis> http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_1100  has some drivers listing of drivers to try with it
[22:55] <combinio> ardchoille: as i can see only this :: "deb http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com/repo/ gutsy free"
[22:56] <ardchoille> combinio: That is incorrect and needs to be removed
[22:56] <sigma_123> happy new year all (south africa)
[22:56] <ardchoille> !medibuntu | combinio
[22:56] <ubotu> combinio: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org
[22:56] <combinio> ardchoille: so removed that already
[22:57] <combinio> >>> HAAAAPPY NEW YEAR (Poland :D)
[22:57] <combinio> ardchoille: can u wait a sec. want to watch the fireshow ;P
[22:57] <combinio> oho ! :D:D here it comes ;P
[22:58] <ardchoille> combinio: There is a webpage that fully explains how to add the medibuntu repo properly: http://www.medibuntu.org
[22:58] <sigma_123> ok i was one hour late!
[22:59] <combinio> :D:D
[22:59] <Athena> The cups people are asking for a password...
[22:59] <Athena> MINE doesn't work
[22:59] <Dr_willis> Athena,  You mean the cups web interface. :) Hmm.. i thought they fixed that ... bug
[22:59] <Dr_willis> I rember ages ago i had to set a root password for it to take.
[23:00] <Gunirus> Happy New Year
[23:00] <starscreamd> Should I just reinstall Kubuntu gutsy to fix this issue? all i did was try to add a value to the groups and ive had all kinds of probs since..
[23:00] <starscreamd> no sound, sudo not taking passwrod etc
[23:00] <nuxil> Yea Happy new Year all
[23:00] <Athena> my problem isn't identifying the printer...it just won't accept the drivers suggested (except once...no idea how and accidentally erased the printer entry)
[23:01] <Dr_willis> Athena,  what im reading says it should use the hplip drivers/tools . which i think is a extra package.
[23:01] <Dr_willis> !find hplip
[23:01] <ubotu> Found: hplip, hplip-data, hplip-dbg, hplip-doc, hplip-gui (and 1 others)
[23:01] <Dr_willis> try installing those. perhaps.
[23:01] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: I thought the hplip stuff was installed by default
[23:01] <Athena> i got through the suggestions of the CUPS page (same thing i've done before. I got this as a result when i went for a test page
[23:02] <Athena> An error occurred while loading http://localhost:631/printers/Laser?op=print-test-page:
[23:02] <Athena> Connection to host localhost is broken.
[23:02] <Dr_willis> ardchoille,  no idea. Ir ecall intalling it befor for my older hp-scanner-printer
[23:02] <Athena> so did i
[23:02] <Dr_willis> !info hplip
[23:02] <ubotu> hplip: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 2.7.7.dfsg.1-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 283 kB, installed size 688 kB
[23:02] <ardchoille> Dr_willis: Ah, ok
[23:02] <Dr_willis> Says its optional. :)
[23:02] <Athena> so i need to install it?
[23:02] <W8TAH>  hi folks -- im wanting to view this link mms://a293.l2717654292.c27176.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/293/27176/v0001/reflector:54292  firefox tells me it does not know how to handle the link -- what do i need to install????
[23:02] <combinio> what the hell that means?! sudo: "timestamp too far in the future: Dec 31 23:26:52 2007"
[23:02] <Dr_willis> combinio,  your date when the file was made was wrong, or its wrong now
[23:02] <combinio> i see :)
[23:03] <starscreamd> W8TAH: helluva line here, ive been here awhile now, over 15 mins no response
[23:03] <Athena> so what do i ask adept to install (so i get this right)
[23:03] <Dr_willis> !info hplip
[23:03] <ubotu> hplip: HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP). In component main, is optional. Version 2.7.7.dfsg.1-0ubuntu5 (gutsy), package size 283 kB, installed size 688 kB
[23:03] <Dr_willis>  hplip  is the package name
[23:03] <Dr_willis> !find hplip
[23:03] <W8TAH> starscreamd: ok -- whats ur ?? i may be able to help
[23:03] <ubotu> Found: hplip, hplip-data, hplip-dbg, hplip-doc, hplip-gui (and 1 others)
[23:03] <Athena> (i tried updating the hplip on another operating system...didn't work well, but i tried through apt
[23:03] <Dr_willis> You may want to install those other files as well. the doc. and gui.
[23:04] <Athena> it says it is already installed
[23:04] <Athena> it won't show anything for a GUI request
[23:04] <Athena> (do i need to add a repository?)
[23:04] <starscreamd> W8TAH: I tried adding a value to groups, and my sound isn't working. I had to manually edit... sudo visudo to add my username to the bottom of that fiel.. ick :P i just wanna restre my group settings
[23:05] <W8TAH> eeek - -not sure on that
[23:05] <Dr_willis> Athena,  they are all in main --> "In component main, is optional"
[23:05] <Dr_willis> so they are in the main repo
[23:05] <W8TAH> might ask in #ubuntu may be less line as it is not kubuntu specific
[23:07] <Athena> ok all sorts of new stuff being added, as i told it to allow a Gnome commercial product that looks like it could run a printer
[23:07] <secleinteer> hi, i'm not getting the info pane that's in the bottom half of the ktorrent window (as in http://ktorrent.org/images/screenshots/mwnd.png ). i'm using the default ktorrent install. anyone know how to enable it?
[23:07] <Dr_willis> Athena,  this is a printer scanner combo?
[23:07] <Athena> i'm not much familiar with know
[23:07] <Athena> yes it is
[23:07] <Athena> gnome
[23:07] <Athena> i don't care if the scanner works or not
[23:08] <Dr_willis> I think theres a hpoj service that also needs to be in stalled and running
[23:08] <Dr_willis> !find hpoj
[23:08] <ubotu> Found: hpoj, hpoj-xojpanel
[23:08] <Dr_willis> !info hpoj
[23:08] <ubotu> hpoj: HP OfficeJet Linux driver (hpoj). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.91-12build1 (gutsy), package size 449 kB, installed size 1352 kB
[23:08] <unix_lappy> man do i hate public WAP
[23:08] <Dr_willis> I had to install that for my combo printer also.
[23:08] <Athena> yes but hpoj is incompatible with hplip
[23:08] <unix_lappy> windows probes all other clients all the time pointlessly.
[23:09] <Athena> hmm...i'll wait and see what the download does
[23:09] <unix_lappy> and you cant tell the difference b/w a probe and a scan.
[23:09] <Athena> (they were incompatible on my old system)
[23:09] <Minataku> Heya, Dr_willis
[23:09] <Minataku> Dr_willis: What's up?
[23:10] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  got my *@*@&!@&@ company BACK again
[23:10] <Dr_willis> Athena,  well one site says use the ljet4 driver. for that printer.
[23:10] <Minataku> What?!
[23:10] <Dr_willis> i think my googling is finding a lot of old er threads.
[23:10] <unix_lappy> got your company back?
[23:10] <Minataku> Kick those slackers out!
[23:10] <Dr_willis> Minataku,  they came back for Xmas.. and then its one disaster after another with then
[23:10] <Dr_willis> unix_lappy,  company as in 'relatives visiting' :)
[23:11] <combinio> what is the command to install DEB package in console ?
[23:11] <Athena> so my system is now downloading gnome files <sigh> but if it works ok
[23:11] <Athena> yes but the ljet doesn't work
[23:11] <Athena> i've tried it
[23:11] <ardchoille> combinio: What are you installing? Have you checked the repos first?
[23:12] <Athena> the best success i've had is to boot the machine with the printer unattached, and it guesses i might have a cannon or a lexmark, then connect the machine...some combo of that got my one printed page
[23:12] <combinio> ardchoille: no! i just want that command to check out WHAT THE HELL crashes my *.deb packages installation
[23:12] <Dr_willis> Athena,  some of the sites i see say it started working after they installed hopj, others say they used ljet4. others say it never worked... :)
[23:12] <combinio> ardchoille: cuz i can't install ANY *.deb packages! dpkg crashes! :{{{
[23:13] <Minataku> Ugh. GNOME.
[23:13] <Athena> i had problems the first time i installed a printer...so i think it is likely the software not the printer...i have someone looking into getting me a ripped version of XP just in case, so i can make sure it works before the warranty (short) ends...but i hate Windows
[23:13] <combinio> ardchoille: so, can u give me that command pls? if u know of course :P
[23:13] <Minataku> Heh
[23:14] <Athena> Oh gees so one system never seems to work
[23:14] <ardchoille> combinio: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[23:14] <combinio> ardchoille: thanks :))
[23:14] <Minataku> I read that 80% of computer users have 2 or more problems with their computers every month
[23:14] <Athena> all types of operating systems?
[23:14] <Minataku> Which means that some of those Windows users refused to admit it
[23:15] <Schuenemann> Minataku, computers have problems with their computers? What is that?
[23:15] <Dr_willis> Athena,  im not actually clear on what the problem is.. You run the printer config tool. it sees the printer. you then select a driver.. but they dont seem to work?
[23:15] <Athena> yes
[23:15] <Minataku> Mac users only occasionally have problems with their "computers" because their computers don't actually do anything in the first place
[23:15] <Schuenemann> Minataku, oops, users, sorry. 80% ?
[23:15] <Athena> but the machine does sometimes flash...it is getting some info...and as i said it did print one test page correctly
[23:15] <combinio> WHAT THE?!?! i install *.deb package in console (not in that window manager) and it looks it works!? no errors?! :}
[23:15] <Minataku> And the rest are happy Linux/BSD/Solaris users
[23:15] <ardchoille> !ot | Minataku
[23:15] <ubotu> Minataku: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[23:15] <Athena> now my machine is saying it doesn't have CUPS installed!
[23:15] <Athena> (it had it before)
[23:16] <Dr_willis> Athena,  Hmmm.....
[23:16] <downix> Minataku: Amiga ftw!  8)
[23:16] <Minataku> downix: Heehee
[23:16] <Minataku> Speaking of Amigas, Dr_willis
[23:16] <Minataku> lol
[23:16] <Dr_willis> You dont want to know how full the garrage is now...
[23:16] <Dr_willis> Its gotten worse in the last 2 weeks.
[23:16] <Athena> should i just go to adept and try getting it again (likely gnome printer stuff took it off)
[23:16] <Dr_willis> I can stand on tip toe and see the machines!
[23:17] <Dr_willis> Athena,  all the gnome printers tuff is front ends to the cups system.
[23:17] <Dr_willis> I dont see why it would of removed anything.
[23:17] <Athena> maybe it wasn't there to start?
[23:17] <Athena> i can't remeber...
[23:17] <downix> Dr_willis: Got any 3k's?  8)
[23:17] <Athena> let me go look for the hplip stuff
[23:17] <Dr_willis> !find gnome-cups-manager
[23:17] <ubotu> Found: gnome-cups-manager
[23:18] <Dr_willis> I tend to use the gnome-cups-manager over the kde printer tool.. because with the Gnome tool.. i can get the printer gong in like 10 sec. :)
[23:18] <Athena> ok this is what i get
[23:18] <Athena> Unable to retrieve the printer list. Error message received from manager:
[23:18] <Athena> Connection to CUPS server failed. Check that the CUPS server is correctly installed and running. Error: /var/run/cups/cups.sock: connection refused (10).
[23:18] <Dr_willis> vs.. exploring the kde tool trying to figure it out.
[23:18] <Minataku> downix: Too late, I claimed them all.
[23:18] <Dr_willis> Only got a A1200, and CD32 left.
[23:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[23:18] <Dr_willis> when i can get to them.
[23:18] <downix> Minataku: Actually I'm building my own.  They cloned the hardware earlier this year, roll your own is the name of the game now.
[23:18] <Minataku> lol
[23:19] <Minataku> Cool
[23:19] <Dr_willis> downix,  got a URL for that info?
[23:19] <Dr_willis> :)
[23:19] <downix> I hated the A1200
[23:19] <Minataku> Yeah, link up
[23:19] <ubuntu> :)
[23:19] <Dr_willis> like i NEED another pc.
[23:19] <Minataku> Heh
[23:19] <Minataku> Amiga on an FPGA
[23:19] <ubuntu> Hi. Kubuntu can't recognize my speakers. What should I do?
[23:19] <Minataku> You could make an ultratiny Amiga
[23:19] <Minataku> XD
[23:19] <downix> I'm trying to fit it into a PDA, personally
[23:20] <downix> best use for that broken Palm V
[23:20] <Dr_willis> Amigabuntu.
[23:20] <downix> http://home.hetnet.nl/~weeren001/
[23:20] <albatross27> Kubuntu 7.10 can't recognize my speakers. How do I fix this?
[23:20] <downix> Dr_willis: I don't think any Linux can handle the 68000 CPU, only the 030 or higher
[23:20] <Dr_willis> albatross27,  Speakers? You mean soundcard?
[23:20] <Minataku> I know that NetBSD can run on a sun2
[23:20] <Dr_willis> downix,  yep. No mmu
[23:20] <ardchoille> Please take the off-topic chat to another channel.
[23:21] <Minataku> 68010 + 68555 or whatever
[23:21] <Minataku> With a custom Sun MMU
[23:21] <albatross27> !audio
[23:21] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3
[23:21] <d3ce1t> happy new yeaR! :D
[23:21] <downix> Minataku: You know in the original chipset specs there was to be an external MMU, but execs cut it out for cost.
[23:21] <Minataku> Otherwise, I believe the first Motorola chip to have a Motorola MMU was the 020
[23:21] <Minataku> downix: We better move this
[23:21] <BluesKaj> albatross27 , i doubt it's your speakers , unless you've already checked with the headphone output that the soundcard and sound system is working properly
[23:22] <Minataku> Before the Stuporcop gets out his banstick
[23:22] <Athena> apparently i need to reinstall CUPS
[23:22] <albatross27> BluesKaj: It's probably the sound card.
[23:35] <Athena> well that is it for me tonite...hopefully i'll get the printer working soon...thank you for all the help!
[23:42] <oakxx> hey, i keep failing on dual booting kubuntu with windows xp
[23:42] <oakxx> invald operating system is what i get
[23:42] <oakxx> and it doesnt goto grub after install
[23:42] <oakxx> this is a laptop with one harddrive.
[23:43] <nosrednaekim> oakxx: are you changing anything with where to install grub?
[23:43] <oakxx> so should grub goto hda? or hda1? or hd0? or what?
[23:43] <nosrednaekim> hd
[23:43] <nosrednaekim> *hd0
[23:43] <oakxx> it auto puts it at hd0
[23:43] <oakxx> i thought.
[23:43] <BluesKaj> oakxx, did you install windows after installing kubuntu ?
[23:43] <nosrednaekim> then that is correct.
[23:43] <nosrednaekim> what does your partitioning look like?
[23:43] <oakxx> windows installed first
[23:44] <nosrednaekim> that is the default. oakxx
[23:44] <BluesKaj> !grub
[23:44] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[23:44] <oakxx> well i used partitionmagic, to make a ext3+ swap partition
[23:44] <oakxx> and i also tried to do a "resize" from the install
[23:44] <oakxx> and i tried using wubi
[23:44] <BluesKaj> aiieee, partition chaos !'
[23:44] <oakxx> ive dual booted fedora on this machien before.
[23:45] <nosrednaekim> oakxx: ok... delete ALL partitions except the windows one and redo it. use the "manual" partitioning option in the installer
[23:46] <oakxx> ok
[23:46] <oakxx> right now i just reinstalled windows on the whole thing
[23:46] <oakxx> so this is one big ntfs partition
[23:49] <nosrednaekim> ok... then use you should be able to do the automatic(guided) partitioning...
[23:49] <oakxx> the automatic "resize"
[23:49] <oakxx> hmmm
[23:50] <oakxx> i think i tried this and it caused "invalid operating system"
[23:52] <nosrednaekim> ok... the  use the manual partitioning
[23:54] <Ertain> Hello everyone.  I try to start Xpenguins but it won't work.  Though I've installed it through Adept and have started it from the command line nothing works.  I've tried a couple of commands but nothing works.
[23:54] <nosrednaekim> Ertain: does it through you the error that the command was not found?
[23:54] <nosrednaekim> *throw
[23:58] <ardchoille> Ertain: Open the System Settings app and I'll help you with that