[00:01] <bigjools> bazzer: can you try the version in the PPA here instead (https://code.launchpad.net/~maas-maintainers/+archive/stable), the maas shipped with 12.04 is broken in quite a few places.
[00:01] <bigjools> the one in 12.04 is due to be replaced with the PPA version soon
[00:02] <bazzer> bigjools: huh good to know...i tried MaaS out once when 12.04 first shipped...trying to pick it up again
[00:02] <bazzer> bigjools: i got fed up earlier and created /var/lib/tftpboot :)
[00:02] <bigjools> bazzer: cool, let me know how you get on
[00:02] <bigjools> the latest maas in raring has a ton more features
[00:03] <bazzer> bigjools: it completed whatever it was up to doing on the imports...so it can't be a bad thing :)
[00:04] <bazzer> bigjools: i'm adding th repository now...i just thought sticking with 12.04 with it being a LTS would be the way to go for a server...
[00:04] <bigjools> normally true, yes :)
[00:04] <bigjools> the new version is also in -proposed if you want to enable it
[00:06] <bazzer> i (somehow) semi got it working the other day at work...nodes stuck in commissioning...clients would boot and hang complaining of iscsi targets *shrug*
[00:15] <bazzer> bigjools: hey that pulled in isc-dhcp-server...not using dnsmasq now?
[00:15] <bigjools> no
[00:15] <bigjools> bind9 & isc now
[00:16] <bazzer> sweet...i'm old school dhcp and bind...dnsmasq confusing me to no end when i'm quickly trying to do something
[00:16] <bigjools> yeah, dnsmasq is more a desktop solution
[00:17] <bazzer> yeah, i greatly hated dealing with it even if it was extremely well documented...seems too non-server-ish
[00:18] <bigjools> the set up of the dhcp and dns config is all done in the maas ui now
[00:19] <bazzer> nice
[00:19] <bigjools> it's all organised into a region and multiple clusters
[00:19] <bigjools> each cluster has its own dhcp
[00:20] <bazzer> thought that is how it was supposed to be? then again i tinkered with it for a short time like i said
[00:32] <bazzer> well that sucked...had a lockup
[00:44] <bazzer> bigjools: uhh, maas-import-pxe-files pulls in armhf?
[01:07] <bigjools> bazzer: configure what it pulls in /etc/maas/
[01:08] <bazzer> gotcha
[01:08] <bazzer> didn't see the mention in the docs
[01:14] <bazzer> seem commented out to me
[02:21] <bazzer> ummm I just tried to enlist a node...semi success if one considers success that it booted over the network and is sitting at some login screen
[02:21] <bazzer> oh wait it shutdown!
[02:26] <bazzer> seems i got some FQDN issues :(
[02:27] <bigjools> if it enlisted it should show up in the UI
[02:27] <bazzer> yeah it is
[02:27] <bigjools> are you ising IPMI?
[02:28] <bazzer> as (;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached master
[02:28] <bazzer> bigjools: dunno?
[02:28] <bigjools> did you install maas-dhcp and maas-dns?
[02:28] <bigjools> if you don't know you probably aren't :)
[02:29] <bazzer> well dhcp yes before you gave me that ppa and i upgraded
[02:29] <bigjools> these are new packages
[02:29] <bazzer> yeah maas-dns is missing
[02:29] <bigjools> you will also need to visit the cluster config page and set its details up
[02:30] <bazzer> already did that
[02:30] <bigjools> cool
[02:30] <bigjools> you set it to manage dns as well?
[02:30] <bazzer> i sure did
[02:30] <bigjools> cool, so just install maas-dns and all should be well
[02:31] <bazzer> i must say this now works oh so much better than the headache i had this afternoon
[02:31] <bigjools> we should probably detect it's missing and warn in that page
[02:31] <bigjools> yeah, the default version in 12.04 is, ummm, poor
[02:31] <bazzer> yes that'd be good to do for sure
[02:31] <bazzer> lmao
[02:31] <bazzer> poor
[02:32] <bazzer> i love that statement
[02:32] <bigjools> it was demoware
[02:34] <bazzer> yeah i understand that...but i love a challenge and whatnot
[02:34] <bazzer> okie...trying this one more again
[02:35] <bazzer> oh that "semi" working default version i got set up at work...i screwed it up so bad trying to enlist nodes that it would show one and cobbler was telling me there were 10
[02:55] <bazzer> ok um how do i delete a node i accepted and its in commisioning?
[02:56] <bazzer> nm
[02:56] <bazzer> found it
[03:24] <bazzer> well now a new problem, juju :)
[03:25] <bazzer> no matching node is available
[15:25] <roaksoax> rvba: still around
[15:25] <roaksoax> ?
[15:26] <rvba> roaksoax: yep
[15:27] <roaksoax> rvba: so I'm gonna be separating the ipmi autodtection code away from enlist_userdata and user_data.template. However, we discussed with julian that we would like to "inject" that script
[15:27] <roaksoax> rvba: so any ideas of how I could use/inject that script into the templating?
[15:27] <roaksoax> rvba: the idea of separating the code away is to make it available in a separate package
[15:31] <rvba> roaksoax: well, I see two ways to do this: one solution is to read that script in MAAS and include it in the context used to render the main template.  The other is to use tempita's inheritance mechanism to compose the template using the main template and the script.
[15:32] <roaksoax> rvba: both options would require have it installed in maas region then. Ok, I'll think about what's best and let you know :)
[15:33] <rvba> roaksoax: it probably needs some thinking indeed.
[15:33] <roaksoax> indeed
[15:36] <roaksoax> rvba: btw.. the piston fixes... they are not merged in upstream yet
[15:36] <roaksoax> rvba: do you still want me to grab those and apply them?
[15:38] <rvba> roaksoax: IIRC they have been there for a long time and are still not merged upstream… right?
[15:41] <roaksoax> rvba: yeah 1 has been there for months, the other just for days
[15:41] <rvba> roaksoax: if that's the case then I think we should include them as patches to avoid having to wait for upstream to include them.
[15:41] <roaksoax> ok
[15:41] <roaksoax> my point was that we usually cherry pick patches applied upstream (and these haven't)
[15:41] <roaksoax> but will take care of them
[15:42] <rvba> ok thanks.
[15:43] <roaksoax> rvba: btw.. https://bitbucket.org/jespern/django-piston/pull-request/25/compatibility-fix-for-json-emitter-with/diff
[15:43] <roaksoax> rvba: check the commet by Vladislav
[15:44] <roaksoax> rvba: do you think we should use what he commented instead of django.VERSION
[15:44] <roaksoax> ?
[15:45] <rvba> roaksoax: "Why soooo looong?" ?
[15:46] <rvba> I think the author of that patch is a core Django dev.
[15:46] <roaksoax> rvba: look at the diff, there's a comment in a diff with "try: import json except ImportError from .....
[15:46] <roaksoax> rvba: instead of "import django \n if django.VERSION...."
[15:47] <rvba> roaksoax: I prefer the usage of django.VERSION tbh.
[15:47] <roaksoax> rvba: ok
[16:20] <roaksoax> rvba: uploaded. should be available in the next couple of hours
[16:50] <AskUbuntu> Install nodes error (could not find kernel image) | http://askubuntu.com/q/301150
[19:32] <kmyst> quick question...i'm trying to enlist nodes that have two nics (eth0 is connected to the network the maas controller is on and eth1 is connected to another network with internet access) but my commissioning is failing i think since it only brings up eth0 so how do i get around that?
[20:03] <smoser> hey...
[20:04] <smoser> kmyst, it *should* be fixed to correctly load only the nic that it booted from.
[20:04] <smoser> hey. in 'maas-cli admin nodes list'
[20:04] <smoser> is there any way to get the user-name that has a node allocated ?
[20:04] <smoser> afaiks no
[20:25] <kmyst> smoser: yeah that's what i figured but the nic it boots from has no internet access so the commissioning just sits and sits then spews a ton of apt-get errors since it can't get to the internet
[20:28] <smoser> ah. because it doesn't bring up the other nic
[20:28] <smoser> ?
[20:28] <kmyst> right
[20:29] <smoser> i'd appreciate it if you opened a bug, as your use case seems quite valid to me.
[20:29] <smoser> or at least i'd like to see  a thoughtful response.
[20:29] <smoser> you can probably get thorugh this by adding an entry in /etc/network/interfaces inside the ephemeral image
[20:29] <kmyst> which the end result is the node ultimately shuts down and goes to the ready state but well...ya know :)
[20:30] <kmyst> good idea
[20:30] <smoser> shoot.... that might not work*
[20:30] <smoser> probably wont.
[20:31] <kmyst> drat
[20:31] <smoser> as we have some clever code in the initramfs that dynamically writes /etc/network/interfaces
[20:32] <kmyst> ah
[20:34] <smoser> based on what BOOTIF was given/
[20:34] <smoser> on the initramfs kenrel command line
[20:34] <smoser> let me see thoug
[20:36] <kmyst> k
[20:36] <kmyst> i just got done testing out the same thing on virtualbox
[20:36] <kmyst> same results
[20:37] <smoser> i think the easiest thing to do will be to make the commissioning user-data bring up eth1
[20:38] <smoser> kmyst, what version of maas are you using ?
[20:39] <kmyst> uh let me check
[20:39] <smoser> you're also going to have to manually handle bringing up the nics in install also.
[20:39] <smoser> as it is also going to just bring up the nic that it sees on the cmdline
[20:39] <smoser> (i think)
[20:39] <smoser> please open a bug
[20:39] <kmyst> ya that's what it's doing for sure
[20:40] <smoser> as i honestly think this is a very reasonable setup you have.
[20:40] <kmyst> maas version 1.2+bzr13373-df
[20:42] <kmyst> i'll definitely open a bug if that's the way to go?
[20:42] <smoser> well, we definitely want a bug
[20:42] <smoser> to fix it properly
[20:42] <kmyst> will do then
[20:44] <kmyst> 1.2+bzr1373+dfsg-0ubuntu1~12.04.1~ppa1
[20:44] <kmyst> from the stable ppa
[20:46] <smoser> ah. thats what i was looking for.
[20:47] <kmyst> smoser: only reason i set it up that way was i didn't care if maas ran dhcp/dns but since i already have an authoritative dhcp server on the network segment i isolated maas and the nodes and just provided the nodes with an extra nic to a lan segment that has external access
[20:48] <kmyst> so after experiencing the problem i fell back to testing the idea out with virtualbox...same results :)
[20:48] <smoser> yeah.
[20:48] <smoser> so one way that will probalby work...
[20:49] <smoser> in the ephemeral images, you can add an upstrat job that runs on 'starting cloud-init'
[20:49] <smoser> that just does whatever you need to do to 'ifup eth1'
[20:49] <smoser> (it will be more than just 'ifup eth1' as there wont be an entry in /etc/network/interfaces for eth1, but you could just append one and then ifup)
[20:49] <smoser> that make sense?
[20:50] <kmyst> completely
[20:50] <smoser> do that in the ephermal images, and then also make it happen in the installer
[20:50] <smoser> so that when it comes up it gets your handywork aplied
[20:52] <kmyst> so the disk.img in /var/lib/maas/ephemeral/precise/ephemeral/amd64/20121008 right?
[20:52] <kmyst> ls
[20:54] <AskUbuntu> How to preserve custom configurations across reboots when using juju and maas? | http://askubuntu.com/q/301241
[20:54] <AskUbuntu> Juju deploy issue : Connection was refused by other side | http://askubuntu.com/q/301243
[21:13] <kmyst> smoser: where's the installer?
[23:40] <AskUbuntu> sudo maas-import-isos fails | http://askubuntu.com/q/301280


[09:08] <sgo11> hi, there is no "ubuntu-restricted-extras" in the repo. how to install it? thanks.
[09:23] <sgo11> hi, how to install flash player to chromium ?
[09:29] <infinity> sgo11: On ARM?
[09:29] <infinity> sgo11: You can't.  There's no Flash binary for ARM Linux.
[09:29] <infinity> (Complain to Adobe, not us)
[09:30] <sgo11> infinity, got it. thanks.
[09:34] <sgo11> I thought I can use arm board to replace my laptop. but too many problems. i kinda give up this idea.
[11:00] <sgo11> hi, where can I find a list of all mirrors for http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports ? thanks a lot.
[11:07] <lilstevie> sgo11, I don't believe ports is mirrored much, if at all
[11:07] <sgo11> lilstevie, ok. thanks.
[11:29] <infinity> lilstevie: It has one mirror (us.ports).
[11:29] <infinity> lilstevie: And all the country codes are set up (but either point to uk or us for now) to allow for future expansion.
[11:29] <infinity> sgo11_away: ^
[12:51] <lilstevie> infinity, so as I said, not much, and practically not at all :p
[13:51] <sgo11> infinity, thanks a lot.
[14:22] <sgo11> hi, how to setup default input method to ibus in lxde? I tried gnome-language-selector, but it fails to start. it reports "Could not get owner of name 'org.freedesktop.Accounts': no such name" error. thanks.


[11:15] <cjwatson> wgrant: Thanks for approving https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/launchpad/twisted-13.0.0-p2/+merge/277642 .  Are you happy with its dependency https://code.launchpad.net/~cjwatson/lazr.sshserver/moduli/+merge/277641 as well?
[11:21] <wgrant> cjwatson: Indeed.
[11:33] <cjwatson> thanks
[20:17] <blr> lifeless: would it make sense to declare all deps in requirements.txt with '>=', install from our local sdist repo, and then freeze those requirements to constraints.txt?
[20:38] <lifeless> blr: sure, thats roughly what generate-constraints in openstack does
[20:39] <blr> lifeless: yep, that seems sensible, and will allow us to play nicely with RTD etc.
[20:39] <blr> thanks


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[05:11] <ricotz> hello :), please take a look at this finished libreoffice SRU for focal - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1942894
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[08:31] <RikMills> can someone retry the kubuntu beta ISO build? livefs failed without a log. the qatracker is ignore my request, as it thinks it is still building
[08:50] <fheimes> not sure if this is the right place to ask the following, but I'll just try:
[08:50] <fheimes> If one does a 20.04 server installation the default ISO image url that is used  (even with a 20.04.3 image) in the interactive network config stage is:
[08:50] <fheimes> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/focal/release/ubuntu-20.04-live-server-s390x.iso
[08:50] <fheimes> but that URL doesn't work/exist anymore
[08:50] <fheimes> iirc this old/initial URL used to be redirected to the latest/current image (no?), so aot:
[08:50] <fheimes> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/focal/release/ubuntu-20.04.3-live-server-s390x.iso
[08:50] <fheimes> but that's not the case
[08:50] <fheimes> hence if s/o does an installation and sticks to the default url, the install fails ("wget: serverreturned error: HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found")
[08:50] <fheimes> well, easy enough to fix by the person that does the install (just using the 20.04.3 URL), but a bit inconvenient
[08:50] <fheimes> shall there be a redirect in place?
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[10:37] <cpaelzer> Hiho Ubuntu-SRU people, today on duty according to the wiki RAOF and bdmurray - I was asked why dpdk in focal/hirsute wasn't SRU released yet
[10:38] <cpaelzer> I've rechecked the case but all bugs are green, autopkgtests are happy, aging has 11 days
[10:38] <cpaelzer> I couldn't find a good answer, if it is just "didn't get to it yet" that is fine as well, but I wanted to ask if there is a blocker for it that I might miss
[13:02] <seb128> is anyone leading the beta organization?
[13:04] <ricotz> bdmurray, hi, libreoffice/hirsute ping :)
[13:55] <bdmurray> cpaelzer: I haven't had a chance to look at dpdk yet
[13:59] <cpaelzer> ok, thanks for the FYI bdmurray
[14:32] <bdmurray> laney, vorlon: Do you know how to get the ISO tracker to realize that a rebuild has failed? I've tried canceling a rebuild request and requesting another rebuild and nothing has changed.
[14:50] <laney> bdmurray: as cdimage@ancientminister, run `rebuild-requests -n` to see if it is a stuck request, then `rebuild-requests -c` to cancel it if so
[14:53] <slyon> ddstreet: wrt. to the latest systemd Focal SRU: With the old crash not happening anymore and the new crash happening less frequent, I think we should ask the release team to manually approve it. Here is my rationale: https://code.launchpad.net/~slyon/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+git/systemd/+merge/408816/comments/1079349
[14:53] <slyon> if you agree I can talk to people to get it done.
[14:56] <bdmurray> laney: thanks, what are valid instance names?
[14:57] <laney> I forgot..
[14:57] <laney> .
[14:57] <laney> maybe "iso"?
[14:57] <laney> if not, check in the shell history
[14:59] <tseliot> bdmurray, hey, any chance the new ubuntu-drivers-common and nvidia-prime can make it into the beta iso?
[15:19] <bdmurray> laney: it was iso
[15:22] <ddstreet> slyon yep sounds good to me - and the phasing only applies to desktop installs anyway in focal, IIUC
[15:28] <slyon> ack
[15:29] <laney> 👍
[15:32] <bdmurray> RikMills: I've retried the kubuntu beta ISO build
[15:32] <slyon> ubuntu-release, could someone please whitelist systemd 245.4-4ubuntu3.13 (focal) in the phased-updater? The rational goes here: https://code.launchpad.net/~slyon/ubuntu/+source/systemd/+git/systemd/+merge/408816/comments/1079349
[15:32] <bdmurray> along with everything else
[15:32] <RikMills> bdmurray: thanks!
[15:33] <bdmurray> where everything is the stuff that failed to build
[15:33] <slyon> basically: we have a new crash report (replacing an old one) stopping the phased updates. With the old crash not happening anymore and the new crash happening less frequent, so it's an improvement overall.
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[16:23] <bdmurray> tseliot: ubuntu-drivers-common doesn't seem important based off the debdiff
[16:29] <bdmurray> tseliot: also nvidia-prime is on the beta images
[16:29] <bdmurray> or what will be them
[16:52] <bdmurray> retrying a Lubuntu build
[16:53] <bdmurray> Oh no that was focal, nevermind me!
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[19:26] <falcojr> bdmurray: reminder that cloud-init SRU has new uploads queued for B,F, and H (not trying to be pushy...just a reminder for today)
[19:29] <bdmurray> falcojr: bug 1939603 is missing an SRU template
[19:30] <bdmurray> falcojr: and the other cherry pick doesn't have a bug is there a reason for that?
[19:31] <falcojr> bdmurray: it was found during testing of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cloud-init/+bug/1940871
[19:33] <bdmurray> falcojr: how will we know that whatever it is fixing is actually fixed?
[19:34] <falcojr> it included an integration test and we'll rerun the Azure and Oracle tests
[19:40] <bdmurray> okay, the other bug I mentioned still needs an SRU template though
[19:40] <falcojr> yeah, thanks. Putting that together now
[19:56] <falcojr> bdmurray: updated bug 1939603
[20:08] <sergiodj> ubuntu-archive: hi, I'd appreciate if you could take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiodj/britney/+git/hints-ubuntu/+merge/408965.  thanks
[20:08] <sergiodj> kanashiro: ^
[20:25] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: dovecot (focal-proposed/main) [1:<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu3.4 => 1:<IP_ADDRESS>-1ubuntu3.5] (ubuntu-server)
[20:58] <jawn-smith> Raspberry Pi impish-beta images are broken. They were built with kernel 5.13.0-1006-raspi, which has bug LP: #1943097
[20:58] <jawn-smith> TL;DR: kernel 5.13 introduced a linux-modules-extra package, which contains kernel modules not included by default. The usb storage module is mistakenly included in linux-modules-extra, and is therefore not included by default.
[20:58] <jawn-smith> Kernel 5.13.0-1007 has a fix for this, but is still in -proposed
[21:09] <vorlon> apw: ^^
[21:10]  * apw looks up
[21:10] <bdmurray> there are some linux-meta-raspi autopkgtest failures
[21:11] <apw> that rings a bell; juergh ^ was this not fixed in the kernels we just slid out from the previous sru cycle?
[21:11] <bdmurray> I believe it is but the package is stuck in -proposed
[21:12] <bdmurray> In part because of the freeze but then there are also autopkgtest failures
[21:12] <bdmurray> I'm retrying the systemd one
[21:14] <jawn-smith> I'm trying the wireguard test locally. If it fails I suspect LP: #1944397 may be involved
[21:15] <jawn-smith> I'm also trying to recreate that bug currently
[21:19] <vorlon> bdmurray, apw, jawn-smith: fwiw if the kernel currently in the release pocket is unreleasable in a beta, then I'm inclined to promote the package currently in -proposed without further analysis because it doesn't seem like it can make it worse?
[21:19] <vorlon> jawn-smith: is it only the RPi4 8GB that's affected?
[21:19] <jawn-smith> vorlon: no. It is USB boot on any Pi
[21:20] <apw> indeed it is hard to see how it can be worse.
[21:20] <vorlon> jawn-smith: ok; so we could regress Pis that are booting from other targets than USB, but otherwise no regression
[21:20] <jawn-smith> vorlon: correct
[21:20] <vorlon> and USB boot is the common case across the various Pi hardware?
[21:20] <jawn-smith> SD is most common
[21:20] <vorlon> ah ok
[21:21] <vorlon> so there's still some possibility of regressing booted systems, but not really a chance of regressing install media
[21:22]  * vorlon tries to remember where the page is for the kernel team's promotion process
[21:22] <jawn-smith> vorlon: if LP: #1944397 turns out to be a real issue (I'm working on re-creating now) I would say that it regresses the install media.
[21:23] <jawn-smith> It would mean HDMI was not working on the SD installation that is currently functional. But that's still an if that I'm trying to test out
[21:23] <vorlon> jawn-smith: how can it regress the install media if the USB install media currently doesn't work
[21:23] <bdmurray> To be clear you mean the kernel in -proposed could be worse?
[21:24] <bdmurray> If you don't have HDMI working
[21:24] <bdmurray> Because HDMI is more common than booting from USB
[21:24] <jawn-smith> bdmurray: correct
[21:25] <jawn-smith> booting with SD card to an HDMI session is a very common use case
[21:25] <vorlon> right
[21:27] <jawn-smith> I'm installing the -proposed kernel now but it's to an SD and that takes a little while
[21:27] <bdmurray> Okay, thanks for testing it!
[21:36] <jawn-smith> Looking more closely at LP: #1944397 it appears to only be an issue on an HDMI display with no audio output. I don't have one of those, and they seem unlikely to be very common
[21:38] <bjf> bdmurray, jawn-smith is there a bug filed for the failure to boot from USB and if so can i get that please?
[21:39] <bdmurray> bjf: that's bug 1943097
[21:40] <bjf> bdmurray, comment #17 indicates it's fixed. are we saying that it is not?
[21:41] <jawn-smith> bjf: it's fixed in -proposed
[21:41] <bdmurray> bjf: it is fixed but not in the images for the beta
[21:41] <bjf> bdmurray, ack
[21:42] <bdmurray> bjf: that being said we are testing bug 1944397 which might be an issue with the kernel in -proposed
[21:42] <jawn-smith> bdmurray, bjf: I just got my -proposed kernel to boot and HDMI is working fine
[21:43] <jawn-smith> looking more closely at the dmesg logs in that bug I do think there may be an issue with HDMI displays that have no audio output, but I lack the hardware to test that
[21:43] <bjf> juergh, ^
[22:42] <tseliot> bdmurray, the last build of u-d-c fixed a FTBFS, caused by some codestyle issues. The previous changelog shows why the new ubuntu-drivers-common matters
[23:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu Kylin Desktop amd64 [Impish Beta] has been updated (20210921.1)
[23:28] <xnox> bdmurray:  vorlon: can https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnutls28/3.4.10-4ubuntu1.9 please be released to xenial-updates and xenial-security? it's now 7 days away until xenial will loose connectivity to letsencrypt websites, and i fear some people may not receive the update in time now.
[23:33] <bdmurray> jawn-smith: so bug 1943097 only affects people trying to use USB as their boot media?
[23:35] <bdmurray> oh but then the USB file copy part of the image test fails too so that's not great
[23:36] <jawn-smith> bdmurray: it affects anyone trying to use USB storage
[23:36] <jawn-smith> so indeed the image tests will fail, as you mentioned
[23:37] <bdmurray> vorlon: so I'm leaning towards releasing the linux-raspi. jawn-smith has tested Pis w/ HDMI and audio and those are fine
[23:38] <bdmurray> I think HDMI monitors w/o audio are less common
[23:38] <bdmurray> xnox: what's up with these autopkgtest regressions?
[23:39]  * bdmurray reads the bug
[23:39] <xnox> bdmurray:  commented on the bug report....
[23:40] <xnox> *it is commented....
[23:40]  * xnox is bad with verb tenses
[23:40] <bdmurray> Yeah I found it now
[23:40] <jawn-smith> bdmurray: agreed about the monitors
[23:42] <bdmurray> jawn-smith: You tested a couple of models correct?
[23:42] <bdmurray> s/couple/few/
[23:44] <jawn-smi1> bdmurray: yes, I tested the Pi 4 2G, 4G, 8G, and Pi 400
[23:46] <jawn-smi1> All of them had HDMI output
[23:48] <bdmurray> yeah, mine was fine too


[00:45] <pr3d4t0r> Greetings.
[00:46] <pr3d4t0r> I screwed up my admin account on an up-to-date Ubuntu 14.04 LTS - I mistyped the password during password change and now I can't recall which character I might have transposed.
[00:47] <pr3d4t0r> I'm trying to recover via http://linuxconfig.org/ubuntu-14-04-lost-password-recovery -- the GRUB2 menu flashes by way too fast to even read it, so I can't drop to recovery mode during boot.
[00:47] <patdk-lap> reboot with iso and replace the password
[00:47] <pr3d4t0r> patdk-lap: OKi - so no difference between ISO bootstrapping and SSD media?  Please confirm, hunting for the ISO now :)
[00:48] <pr3d4t0r> patdk-lap: Please confirm.
[00:48] <sarnold> iirc holding down left shift helps with that menu
[00:48] <patdk-lap> well, if recovery mode will let you
[00:48] <patdk-lap> I know for me it normally asks for root password
[00:48] <patdk-lap> or maybe that is a different os
[00:48] <sarnold> probably different os, ubuntu has no root passwd by default :)
[00:49] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: Left-shift -- I will try that first, thanks (I was trhying the right Shift key).
[00:49] <patdk-lap> I tent to set root passwords
[00:49] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold, patdk-lap: Trying both of these in a bit, thanks for your help.
[00:50] <sarnold> pr3d4t0r: fwiw, I haven't burned an ISO to cd in forever, I just dd the things to USB memory sticks. Probably it'd work fine on an ssd too.
[00:52] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: Yeah.  I installed off a USB drive originally.
[00:52] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: On this box.
[00:52] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: Checking first if I have the install image I used -- save some time.
[00:52] <sarnold> *nod*
[00:53] <sarnold> with as cheap as they are these days I've thought  about buying a few and just using them as write-once disks.. but i'm too lazy to get around to even that.
[00:54] <ianorlin> sarnold: I write to mine multiple times but they have gotten too small in my opinion
[00:54] <sarnold> ianorlin: hehe, yeah, my first usb stick looks adorable at 256 megs now :)
[00:54] <ianorlin> finding something tiny is the last thing you want to do when you need to reinstall
[00:55] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: I think I found it.  Back in a bit, thanks again.
[00:56] <ianorlin> I think I bought some usb 3.0 ones off newegg for like 8 us dollars that I reusue but don't take too much power so boot of usb 2.0 ports fine as well and large enough and are yellow and black so it won't blend in with a surface
[00:56] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: Trying Left-Shift first, then boot/recovery (hoping that 14.04 LTS Server ISO will have the option front and center).
[00:56] <pr3d4t0r> Cheers.
[01:07] <pr3d4t0r> Hola.
[01:07] <sarnold> pr3d4t0r: how'd it go?
[01:08] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: Not good.
[01:08] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: /dev/mapper/varenka--vg-root on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[01:09] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: I couldn't mount this partition for recovery :\
[01:09] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: It tells me that no suitable shell was found, yada yada yada.
[01:09] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: The GRUB screen still goes by super-fast (less than a second) so I can't select anything from it :\
[01:10] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: I need to find a recovery guide that tells me how to mount that virtual volume during recovery :\
[01:11] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: Right now I have no idea of how to recover, though :(
[01:12]  * pr3d4t0r googles how to slow GRUB2's screen down if Left-Shift isn't working (or Right-Shift, for that matter).
[01:13] <sarnold> pr3d4t0r: this site http://labs.bjfocus.co.uk/2013/04/ubuntu-recovery-mode-with-lvm-drives/ suggests it's "lvm vgscan –v ; lvm vgchange –a y ; lvm lvs –all; issue mount commands as needed"
[01:13] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: Checking, thanks.
[01:14] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: My network is crippled too because the same server acts as a gateway :\ so getting infos/checking/validating/etc. -- long cycle :)
[01:15] <sarnold> pr3d4t0r: ouch. cell phone?
[01:15] <sarnold> pr3d4t0r: http://tinyurl.com/gpkojuv   tinyurl for the above big url :)
[01:19] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: I can run a physical cable to the front end gateway and connect from there, but then I'll have to both strengthen my workstation's firewall rules and go under the rack to rewire; trying to avoid doing that but oh, well :) if that's what it takes... :)
[01:21] <sarnold> pr3d4t0r: ugh :) yes that sounds terrible :)
[01:23] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: The LVM instructions seem to be solid.  I'm just double-checking now that all the LVM commands are where they need to be and etc.
[01:23] <sarnold> pr3d4t0r: definitely a good idea :)
[01:25] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: This is when I should bitch about Linux being so robust that I don't have to screw with any of these commands for years at a time, unlike Windows Servers which require you to know how to recover a server no matter what because who knows what a service release or patch will do! :D
[01:25] <sarnold> pr3d4t0r: hah, yeah; I only ever see my grub menu two or three times each year :)
[01:26] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: I'd be happy if I could just get to read it *once* today... :D /first_world_technical_problem_fast_booting_server
[01:26] <sarnold> haha
[01:27] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: I have a vague memory of me tweaking the start up at some point to make the GRUB menu last as little as possible -- I'll eventually catch up and figure out what I did and increase the interval before boot.  Anyway, starting recovery again <crossed-fingers />
[01:27] <pr3d4t0r> Cheers...
[01:40] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: Almost there - question:  is it possible to umount /, then mount the alternate file system there, from the recovery shell?
[01:41] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: Also checking the passwd man page to see if I can specify which passwd file to modify (including shadow password), if I need to mount this in a separate volume.
[01:41] <sarnold> pr3d4t0r: a few approaches.. you can use pivot_root to swap it over for everything, or you can use chroot to do something very similar but for specific processes
[01:42] <sarnold> pr3d4t0r: I'm pretty sure I used the chroot approach inthe past; mount /dev/whatever/ /mnt/root ; chroot /mnt/root " then fix it up in that shell
[01:42] <ianorlin> I don't chroot often enough to remmber how to do it
[01:43] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: Checking if pivot_root is in the recovery image.
[01:43] <sarnold> ianorlin: indeed, me neither, i had to look it up in the manpages just now to make sure I got it right :)
[01:44] <sarnold> pr3d4t0r: it may also be in the mounted images, /mnt/whatever/sbin/pivot_root
[01:44] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: /mnt is empty.
[01:45] <sarnold> pr3d4t0r: then mkdir /mnt/whatever ; mount /dev/mapper/whatever /mnt/whatever
[01:45] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: Reading man page to understand how that'd work.
[01:47] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: I'm wondering if chroot /mnt/real_server_root_here /bin/sh will be enough.  Then run the passwd command from there and hope that /etc/passwd will be updated.  Thoughts?
[01:47] <sarnold> pr3d4t0r: that should do the job
[01:48] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: If you're in the Bay Area (or plan to visit soon), the next beer is on me.  Or let me know if you have a tip jar somewhere :)
[01:48] <sarnold> pr3d4t0r: hehe, no trips planned; thanks though :)
[01:49] <pr3d4t0r> Back soon...
[02:13] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: Almost there.  Neither chroot nor pivot_root seem to be doing the job.
[02:14] <pr3d4t0r> sarnold: chroot tells me either "can't execute '/bin/sh'" or "Exec format error" depending on chroot w/o a command or if I try to specify the shell to use.  All shells are sym-linked to /bin/busybox anyway, (ash -> /bin/busybox, sh -> /bin/busybox) and so on.  Googling now to see if there's some other way.
[02:16] <pr3d4t0r> Dammit.  The issue is that the recovery disk and the OS aren't using the same architecture (probably a long due change after six months of patches and updates?).
[02:19] <patdk-lap> heh?
[02:19] <patdk-lap> boot the right one?
[02:19] <patdk-lap> it should be either 64bit or 32bit
[02:20] <patdk-lap> not too many architectures to worry about
[02:20] <pr3d4t0r> Oh, shit.
[02:20] <pr3d4t0r> patdk-lap: You're right - this image is probably for a 32-bit box I have somewhere else.  Thanks.
[02:20] <pr3d4t0r> Dammit, pressure :(
[02:20] <pr3d4t0r> Shit, I forgot that.
[02:44] <pr3d4t0r> patdk-lap: You were oh, so right kind sir.  I was using the wrong ISO image -- everything just worked™ as soon as I used the right image :)
[02:44] <pr3d4t0r> patdk-lap, sarnold: Thanks a whole bunch guys :)
[05:57] <IIT> can anyone confirm the permissions and ownership of qemu images under /var/lib/libvirt/images ?
[05:58] <IIT> i copied from my external drive to the new installation of ubuntu server, which has 777 and user ownership
[06:20] <ianorlin> argh IIT left but I would have liked to know which file system
[06:20] <ianorlin> also I think usually they are owned by root\
[11:23] <rinpoo> I've just installed ubuntu 15 server and wanted to ask what software I should install to make the server more secure. Maybe someboy knows a good tutorial for beginners?
[11:24] <rinpoo> somebody
[11:40] <Walex2> rinpoo: "security for beginners" is a bit a contradiction in terms...
[11:41] <Walex2> rinpoo: also response times under 1 minute are given only to heads of state :-)
[12:32] <rinpoo> sry was afk since it took so long to get an answer
[12:33] <rinpoo> why is security for beginners a contradiction? Everyone starts as a beginner with something
[12:34] <rinpoo> was asking for something like this: https://www.linode.com/docs/security/securing-your-server
[12:52] <rinpoo> just not for linode
[12:57] <rinpoo> 450 ppl in here and nobody knows or cares.....
[13:06] <Lightsword> I’m running 14.04 LTS and am trying to make an upstart script for a custom service, any idea how I would go about customizing handling for “service servicename restart”? the application has a socket handoff feature so that connections don’t get interrupted but I need to have it send a special flag for that, sending the flag should automatically terminate the old instance
[13:09] <patdk-wk> heh? you don't customize handling
[13:09] <Lightsword> patdk-wk, is there a way to just make it so that doing a service restart doesn’t terminate the first instance of the service?
[13:12] <patdk-wk> use the reload command
[13:12] <patdk-wk> that is what it was made for
[13:14] <Lightsword> patdk-wk how does the application know what to do for a reload?
[13:50] <JanC> Lightsword: reload sends SIGHUP
[13:51] <Lightsword> JanC, is it possible to make it do something else like start a new process with a special flag?
[13:51] <JanC> (or whatever signal you configure with 'reload signal')
[13:52] <Lightsword> hmm, so it only allows you to specify a signal?
[13:54] <JanC> Lightsword: many applications allow you to reload with a signal
[13:55] <JanC> but AFAIK only with a signal, yes
[13:55] <Lightsword> JanC, this one is a bit weird the reload process for it is to spin up a new process and then handover the connections using an initialization flag
[14:14] <rinpoo> I have a test server at home and I want to disable all ports, then just open port 80 is there a terminal command to block all ports?
[14:14] <rinpoo> would sudo ufw block all work?
[14:22] <Icey> rinpoo if there's nothing listening on a port, it won't be open in the first place?
[14:26] <rinpoo> Well Im n00b so I dont know Ill be doing this: http://serverfault.com/questions/363741/how-can-i-block-all-but-three-ports-in-ubuntu
[16:01] <rinpoo> I'm getting: /etc/bind/named.conf.options e212 can't open file for writing
[16:02] <rinpoo> after adding: recursion no; and version "Not Disclosed"
[16:02] <rinpoo> Im using vi
[16:03] <rinpoo> anyone know what I can do?
[16:06] <rinpoo> found the problem the file doesnt exist
[16:25] <EmilienM> coreycb: hey, do you know if I can try mitaka now?
[16:25] <EmilienM> you told me this week
[16:28] <Beret> EmilienM, I don't see it in the archive yet
[16:29] <EmilienM> Beret: it's not in -proposed?
[18:34] <devster31> is there a way to scan packages before installing to see if they will require a reboot after being installed?
[18:41] <patdk-wk> the only thing that requires a reboot is kernel
[18:41] <patdk-wk> or if you have some program that uses a lib that cannot be restart, except via a reboot
[18:42] <devster31> libssl requires a reboot
[18:42] <devster31> for example
[18:42] <patdk-wk> only to be sure every program that is using it, is restarted
[18:42] <patdk-wk> it doesn't technically require a reboot
[18:43] <devster31> maybe if there's a way to scan all packages that need to be upgraded for a hook that creates /var/run/reboot-required
[18:43] <devster31> oh, then if I lsof all files that use the old ssl version and restart those services I'm golden
[18:43] <patdk-wk> yes
[18:44] <devster31> thanks


[00:03] <juacom99> Yes genii
[00:04] <genii> juacom99: When the computer is powered on, it will use whatever NumLock setting is in the BIOS, until Kubuntu begins and then turns it on
[00:27] <Simonious_> I'm using fim in a script, but it seems to be blocking, is there a way to give it a time to run before bailing? something like -time $seconds ?
[03:07] <Shikadi> why?
[05:12] <batteronizer> Good morning folks
[05:13] <batteronizer> Is there any way to quickly suspend all notifications in Kubuntu?
[05:13] <batteronizer> Something like, press the power button and it shows an option to turn off all notifications
[05:13] <valorie> well, you can alt+space and type notifications
[05:14] <valorie> which takes you directly to that part of systemsettings
[05:14] <valorie> batteronizer: ^^^
[05:15] <batteronizer> valorie: Yes, but that won't allow me to instantly suspend all notifications. Something like a DND mode.
[05:16] <batteronizer> Do you know where I should look in code if I want to add such an option myself to the Leave/Shutdown menu?
[05:25] <valorie> batteronizer: I don't
[05:25] <valorie> however, you could ask in #kde perhaps
[05:26] <batteronizer> valorie: cool :-)
[05:26] <valorie> best in euro-working hours though
[05:26] <batteronizer> ah yes
[05:33] <SzykCech> HI all!!! I wonder why Kubuntu switch monitor to power off mode when I unchecked System settings->Desktop behavoiur->Desktop lock->Lock automatically after: 15min (i translate it myself so I am not sure how this options path will be in English).
[05:34] <SzykCech> What I want is: No screen lock, no screen power save mode. I want turn off my monitor by hand...
[05:34] <SzykCech> (when I need it)
[05:35] <batteronizer> SzykCech: Check the Power Management settings, maybe that is affecting
[09:17] <termy> hello, I have a little Problem with my default Printer option, I change from gray to colour, but after close the config window and reopen it, the printer ist set to gray again
[09:18] <termy> Kubutu Version 17.10
[09:20] <termy> ok thats strange, after i change the option often, to see wat happen, now the option ist after reopen correct oO
[10:52] <jernej_> hey guys and gals, quick question: when I try to use the "find" function in Dolphin I get the errror: "The process for the baloosearch protocol died unexpectedly". What is the problem here?
[11:18] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:37] <onlyabyte> .
[13:38] <Guest16726> I can't do any update on Kubuntu because I get the message: Error while installing package: install linux-image-extra-4.13.0-41-generic package post-removal script subprocess returned errorexit status 1
[13:38] <Guest16726> could anyone help me out?
[13:39] <Guest16726> i tried sudo apt-get -f install
[13:39] <BluesKaj> Guest16726, try, sudo dpkg --configure -a, then if then f insyatll
[13:40] <BluesKaj> oops then f install
[13:40] <Guest16726> Error! Could not locate dkms.conf file.
[13:40] <Guest16726> seems to be a problem with dkms
[13:41] <Guest16726> this happend after upgrading
[13:41] <BluesKaj> Guest16726, ok , try, sudo apt install --rteinstall dkms
[13:41] <BluesKaj> reinstall
[13:42] <Guest16726> Errors were encountered while processing:
[13:42] <Guest16726>  linux-image-extra-4.13.0-41-generic
[13:42] <Guest16726> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[13:43] <BluesKaj> any dependency error(s)?
[13:44] <Guest16726> https://thepasteb.in/p/pghQJjEO79OCR
[13:44] <Guest16726> doesn't look like it
[13:46] <BluesKaj> try the recovery kernel in grub
[13:48] <BluesKaj> if that doesn't work run sudo apt-get autoremove
[13:49] <Guest16726> ok, thought maybe there is a way without recovery mode
[13:50] <Guest16726> autoremove gives pretty much the same error as reinstall
[13:52] <BluesKaj> Guest16726, looks like you're caught in a loop ..recovery might work though
[16:40] <mattfly> hello, i have a setup where i have multiple windows and would like them to be docked and behave like if they were just the same window, is there any way to do this with kwin?
[17:11] <Roey> hi
[17:11] <Roey> Why do I get this error?  https://pastebin.com/Prh50khz  <-- I am attaching an external backup hard drive and this is what I see from /var/log/syslog when I turn it on.  "lsblk" doesn't list the drive at all, either.


[01:36] <funkyHat> I'm getting "Not allowed here" on this page https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/506656 (a link I clicked on on the Ubuntu Karmic Alpha 2 release page)
[01:37] <funkyHat> Oh I see
[01:37] <funkyHat> The error page doesn't make that particularly clear
[02:59] <Some_Person> How can I roll back to an earlier version of a package (still on launchpad)? It says the status is "superseded"
[02:59] <Some_Person> I already deleted the newer one (which failed to build)
[04:47] <bigjools> Some_Person: what do you mena by roll back, exactly?
[04:47] <bigjools> mean*
[04:51] <Some_Person> I deleted a version of a package I uploaded last night (it failed to build), and I want the old version to no longer be superseded
[04:55] <bigjools> Some_Person: go to copy packages and copy the superseded package back into the PPA
[04:55] <bigjools> with binaries
[09:08] <asabil> hi all
[09:09] <asabil> can someone fix the ownership of this project: https://code.launchpad.net/vala ?
[09:09] <asabil> it should belong to ~vala-team
[09:12] <persia> asabil: file a question at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad so the request can be tracked.
[09:12] <adeuring> asabil: the current owner can to this
[09:12] <adeuring> ...can do this
[09:13] <asabil> adeuring, I contacted the owner about 3 times, no replies
[09:13] <asabil> persia, I think I already did last year
[09:14] <adeuring> persia, asabil: yes, filing a question is another option. But: this should normally be done by the project owner.
[09:14] <adeuring> asabil: can you give me a URL?
[09:14] <asabil> adeuring, I am looking for the question
[09:15] <asabil> the question I asked was about the broken vcs import
[09:15] <asabil> I will create a new one
[09:19] <adeuring> asabil: OK, I understand
[09:21] <asabil> adeuring, https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/97483
[09:22] <adeuring> asabil: ok, thanks. Let me ask the current owner another time what he thinks and if he doesn't replay within a few days, let's change the ownership
[09:23] <asabil> ok that's perfect
[09:23] <asabil> thanks a lot
[11:31] <didrocks> hey launchpad guys. Any idea why my email is not linked to my profile? (I've added my canonical one this morning and push the branch after): https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubiquity/fix-derivatives-session
[11:40] <jussi01> Hrm, who is responsible for packaging launchpadlib?
[11:49] <jussi01> hrm... looks like its james_w ...
[11:49] <jussi01> james_w: you around atm?
[11:50]  * jussi01 assumes not, its probably a little early. in any case, james_w could you please ping me when you wake up?
[11:55] <adeuring> didrocks: I can see your canonical email address on your LP page. What exactly is your problem?
[11:58] <didrocks> adeuring: it's just not linked with my lp account (you can't click on my name and head to my LP page)
[11:59] <adeuring> didrocks: sorry, on which page(s) do you miss the click possibility?
[12:01] <didrocks> adeuring: if you head to https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~didrocks/ubiquity/fix-derivatives-session, you can, for instance, click on "Mario Limonciello"'s name at commit 3655 for instance
[12:01] <didrocks> but you can't on mine next to commit 3656
[12:01] <didrocks> is that more clear?
[12:04] <adeuring> didrocks: ah, thanks, now I understand! that something for the code hosting guys... rockstar: ^^^
[12:06] <didrocks> adeuring: sorry for not being clear enough at first glance :)
[12:06] <adeuring> didrocks: np -- I'm sometimes a bit slow...
[12:28] <wgrant> didrocks: The Code guys are hopefully all asleep by now, but try waiting a day or two.
[12:28] <wgrant> didrocks: Revisions are linked to new email addresses only daily.
[12:28] <persia> Does that happen retroactively as well?
[12:28] <wgrant> Yes.
[12:29] <didrocks> wgrant: ok, I'll wait over the week-end so, and will see. Thanks :)
[12:29] <persia> Nifty trick that.
[16:13] <zekopeko_> hi
[16:13] <zekopeko_> is there a bug about launchpad and having your team members displayed in the assign dialog?
[16:14] <zekopeko_> i don't see why i need to search when in 95% of the cases i want to assign my own team members
[16:18] <idnar> if you're in several teams that could be quite a long list
[16:18] <persia> zekopeko_: For some people it's harder to make that choice.  For instance, I'm on a lot of different teams, so it's not clear in what capacity I'm interacting with LP.
[16:35] <zekopeko_> persia, but in great majority of cases the project == team
[16:35] <zekopeko_> i'm not saying remove the search
[16:35] <zekopeko_> but give me the last 10 people that i assigned to bugs from this project
[16:36] <zekopeko_> or if it's my first time give me 10 people from the team that is related to the project
[16:52] <adeuring> zekopeko_: I think you make a good and valid point. While persia and idnar are right that it is sometimes difficult to figure out the right team, an improved person selection dialog would often be really nice. For example, we could store the 5 or 10 most recently selected persons in a cookie. Fancy to file a bug about it?
[16:53] <zekopeko_> yup
[16:53] <zekopeko_> just give me a good title
[16:53]  * zekopeko_ sucks at bug titles
[16:53] <idnar> fwiw, I like that idea too
[16:55] <adeuring> zekopeko_: I'm not really better in finding useful bug titles ;) Anyway, what about "selecting persons as bug asignees is cumbersome"
[16:55] <zekopeko_> cool
[16:56] <geser> for subscriptions please too as I usually only subscribe a few different teams
[16:57]  * adeuring had exactly the pleasure to assign the same people again and again the last days.
[16:57] <adeuring> geser: yeah, I think if we work on the person selection dialog, it will affect all dialogs at once.
[17:01] <zekopeko_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/508005
[17:01] <zekopeko_> any suggestions?
[17:04] <adeuring> zekopeko_: sounds good
[17:12] <maxb> I'd like it if it didn't bother to search if you actually typed a full team name including the ~ into the box
[17:13] <cody-somerville> or for projects if you enter in the actual codename of a project
[17:13] <cody-somerville> (or atleast shows that project first)
[17:17] <adeuring> maxb, cody-somerville: add your suggestions to the bug filed by zekopeko_ ;)
[17:18] <maxb> We probably shouldn't conflate it
[17:18] <maxb> Actually, reading zekopeko_'s bug, I strenuously disagree
[17:19] <maxb> We don't want inexperienced users to assign bugs, and this seems to be making that a little too easy
[17:20] <zekopeko_> maxb, allow teams to lock that part from editing by non-members?
[17:20] <zekopeko_> and just because noobs MIGHT assign someone doesn't mean we shouldn't implement it
[17:21] <zekopeko_> but even if a noob assigns someone its at least easier for you to change it ;)
[18:10] <Flare183> What does this error mean and how can I fix it? bzr: ERROR: xmlrpc protocol error connecting to https://xmlrpc.edge.launchpad.net/bazaar/: 401 Unauthorized
[18:11] <mars> Flare183, what were you trying to do when you saw that error?
[18:12] <Flare183> mars: I was trying to register a new bzr branch via the terminal
[18:12] <sfears> is launchpad the best place to report bugs?
[18:13] <mars> Flare183, just looking at the bzr help docs.  Maybe you are not logged in using bzr, or it does not have your keys.
[18:13] <Flare183> hm ok
[18:13] <mars> Flare183, have you successfully pushed a branch before?
[18:13] <Flare183> mars: Yes, many times
[18:14] <mars> sfears, that is a pretty vague question :)  What kind of bugs are you reporting?
[18:15] <mars> Flare183, what was the bzr command you used?
[18:15] <mars> bzr push lp:~... ?
[18:15] <Flare183> bzr register-branch
[18:16] <Flare183> I just pushed up a revision to a different branch and it worked perfectly so I know something works
[18:16] <sfears> using file/add media in banshee the program terminates
[18:16] <mars> Flare183, ok, I'll defer to someone else on that one.  beuno, ^ ?
[18:16] <mars> Flare183, believe it or not, I have never used the register-branch command, so I am at a loss :)
[18:17] <Flare183> I understand. Its ok :)
[18:17] <beuno> I haven't either...
[18:17] <Flare183> :S
[18:17] <mars> Flare183, maybe they would know over in #bzr ?
[18:17] <Flare183> Yeah, let me try taht
[18:17] <Flare183> that*
[18:19] <mars> sfears, yes, but there is an easier way: does Banshee have a "Report a Problem" menu item under the Help menu?
[18:20] <sfears> i just found that.. i'm checking that now mars
[18:20] <mars> sfears, also, you may want to check here: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/banshee
[18:21] <sfears> will check the web site.. there's no "report a problem" in banshee
[18:21] <mars> beuno, on that banshee bugs page, the "Report a bug" link doesn't stand out, eh?  It just shows up as yet more red text, and worse, it is in the banner blindness area :(
[18:23] <sfears> i see the report a bug on the web pages.. i meant that banshee doesn't have "report a bug" in the help menu
[18:24] <mars> sfears, yep, I understand.  I was just pointing out the poor link colour to our user experience expert
[18:43] <blueyed> "Internal server error" at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~blueyed/b2evolution/dev/files
[18:46] <mars> beuno, you know loggerhead well.  ^ is that normal? :)
[18:47] <beuno> mars, no, it's hung and we need a LOSA to restart
[18:47] <mars> Chex, ^ ?
[18:51] <Chex> beuno: mars: on it now
[18:51] <beuno> thanks Chex
[18:51] <mars> thanks Chex. blueyed ^
[18:53] <blueyed> thanks for the notification. Why is that not monitored correctly?
[18:54] <blueyed> After all, I need to use the web gui now, since bzr itself runs out of memory when checking out.. :/
[18:54] <blueyed> please ping me, when this is fixed.
[18:55] <blueyed> Chex: ^
[18:55] <Chex> beuno: mars: blueyed: ok, it should be back now
[18:55] <blueyed> yes, thanks.
[18:55] <mars> Chex, yep, works for me
[18:55] <blueyed> Chex: please setup monitoring for it!
[18:55] <Chex> that was an odd one, our nagios check showed it as  running
[18:56] <blueyed> then fix it :)
[18:56] <Chex> and it was responding to some requests...
[18:56] <mars> Chex, resource exhaustion leading to a trickling request throughput?
[18:56] <Chex> Ill make a note of that in the incident log.
[18:56] <beuno> Chex, I think it got updated recently, so it may be running a patch we're trying out
[19:46] <mnft> Hi Barry, are you listening?
[19:46] <barry> mnft: loud and clear
[19:46] <mnft> Andreas, from Berlin
[19:46] <barry> mnft: hi!  how's it going?
[19:47] <mnft> fine, thanks, and you? Got your mails python-mode
[19:47] <frangor> hi
[19:48] <barry> doing good.  yep, i saw there were three branches that were waiting for review or merge, so i just wanted to comment on them to see if we could move them along
[19:49] <mnft> last time it was fine with hs from mikail, btw dropped all my own stuff, so if you agree, starting again with hs on top of yours
[19:50] <barry> mnft: sorry, can you provide more context?  which branch are you talking about?
[19:51] <mnft> hs means hide-show
[19:51] <mnft> well, didn't start yet. just wanted to leave you a message saying i'm on it
[19:53] <barry> ah cool, i don't use hide-show :)  sounds great, thanks!
[19:55] <mnft> hide-show is much more advanced than outline IMHO, as its not restricted to the end of line
[19:56] <mnft> ok, I'll leave that chat. have a nice day, bye
[19:56] <barry> cool, you too
[20:14] <sinzui> edakiri: hi
[20:15] <edakiri> Hi, about the recently created and disabled project named 'gpl', for a GPLv3 Licenced library,
[20:15] <edakiri> Hi.  here is user kiri on LaunchPad.  Yes, I did and do wish to make the project with name gpl.  If you check in Branches, you will see that there is code, which I marked as Mature.  It was deliberate that I made an open team maintainer of the project in order to promote 'drive by contribution'.  I had just logged on to LaunchPad to write some short BluePrints.
[20:16] <sinzui> edakiri: maybe the name needs to change. Why would any want to contribute to your project?
[20:17] <edakiri> I think I don't understand the question.  Rephrase with new aspect?
[20:17] <edakiri> aspect --> variation on perspective
[20:18] <sinzui> edakiri: The name is what implies this project is for yourself, not the community. The project was named fnord with a description of "prime numbers", I would have approved it
[20:19] <sinzui> edakiri: Every user has a private place to keep code. Projects are pubic for users to contribute to, to translate, to create packages from...
[20:21] <sinzui> edakiri: the gpl team also has a +junk namespace to share code between team members
[20:21] <edakiri> I have no idea of why a project named 'gpl' would make the impression it is for 'myself'.  In fact, I don't understand how releasing code under GPL3 license and publishing it and making it writeable to by any willing participants could yield the impression of being 'for myself'.  In any case, that is not so.  I am seeking participation.  Otherwise I would not have: published it, made it writable to by an open team; written a description that w
[20:22] <sinzui> edakiri: I reactivated https://launchpad.net/gpl so that we can look at it together
[20:24] <sinzui> The title "GPL 3 Licensed Code" does not look like a legitimate project. It does not appear to have a focus. What will your project produce?
[20:27] <edakiri> A library of GPL version 3 or licensed code in C++.   I have my own ideas for the future of it, for which I was going to write BluePrints, but I do not wish to restrict it to my own design, but rather hope to gather many small contributions in a SO library.
[20:28] <sinzui> edakiri: The team (a group of people) has this description "Content Licensed under GPL3 and Later.", which is do not understand because teams are communication/ACL devices. They are not a representation of code that can have a license.
[20:28] <edakiri> Immediately, it has the code for finding primes and factors, and likely soon for an especially fast log2 calculation.
[20:29] <maxb> edakiri: I'm just another Launchpad user, but perhaps a 3rd party viewpoint can help unblock this discussion: Why do you think naming your library after the licence it is under is a sensible thing to do?
[20:30] <maxb> A project's name is vital part of people understanding what it is. To write a prime factoring library and to name it "General Public Licence" is just.... hugely confusing.
[20:31] <sinzui> edakiri: I think you will attract more contributors if you can fins and name that explains goals or encapulates an idea the license and language was already on the page, and that information is not remarkable when there are 20,000 like it
[20:32] <edakiri> Imagine a person who works full time not on a FLOSS project but has some code which is suitable for reuse in a library, but is not worth doing individual packaging for.  I wish to integrate that persons contributions.  If there were 20000 like it, I would not have created it. Or if there are then, point me to it, because I've looked for it and not found it.
[20:33] <ScottK> Then name is Library of GPL LIbraries, not GPL
[20:33] <ScottK> is/it
[20:33] <edakiri> That would be a good full name, ScottK
[20:34] <edakiri> The full name is presently, "GPL 3  Licensed Code", but I am not set on that.
[20:34] <edakiri> "GPL3 licensed library(s)", perhaps better.
[20:35] <ScottK> Collection of ....
[20:35] <sinzui> edakiri: That is an excellent background point. I approved your project. I think your project will be successful with a name and description that people can search for and find
[20:35] <edakiri> Presently, it is all C++, but I hope to get bindings for other languages.
[20:37] <maxb> edakiri: Is there to be no common theme connecting the bits of code in this project? Why are you lumping them all into one project rather than having separate projects?
[20:37] <edakiri> ScottK: I imagine keeping it a single library.
[20:38] <edakiri> maxb: reduced overhead in publishing, packaging.
[20:40] <maxb> Leads to increased overhead and confusion for developers and consumers
[20:41] <edakiri> I guess you don't like "boost"?
[20:41] <maxb> That is, at least, somewhat modular
[20:41] <edakiri> maxb: you might be right, but it is certainly far from certain for me.
[20:42] <edakiri> right now it is too small to warrant modularity.
[20:42] <edakiri> I would be glad if some day it becomes so large.
[20:46] <ScottK> boost would be OK if it had better API stability.
[20:59] <A4Tech> All greetings. Question: How long to wait until the launchpad compile the package after uploading sources, and where i can see the status or turn on the compilation. And should there come a letter if something goes wrong
[21:00] <maxb> A4Tech: By 5 minutes after uploading, you should be able to see information and progress in the pages for your PPA
[21:01] <A4Tech> in my PPA no changes
[21:04] <maxb> Check your email for a rejection notice.
[21:05] <maxb> Check your .changes file to be absolutely sure it is correctly gpg-signed with a key known to launchpad, or Launchpad won't know who to send a rejection notice to
[21:05] <A4Tech> maxb: http://paste.ubuntu.com/357246/
[21:07] <maxb> A4Tech: You are launchpad.net/~rmpic30 ?
[21:07] <A4Tech> maxb: yes
[21:08] <maxb> The key ID in your pastebin does not match the key ID on your launchpad profile
[21:08] <A4Tech> gm
[21:08] <A4Tech> o_O
[21:31] <A4Tech> maxb: Unable to find distroseries: unstable; what is it mean?
[21:31] <maxb> It means ubuntu has no such series called "unstable"
[21:32] <maxb> Which ubuntu series did you actually want it built in?
[21:32] <A4Tech> karmic
[21:33] <A4Tech> unstable => karmic? :)
[21:33] <maxb> Then you should say so in the changelog
[21:33] <A4Tech> ok
[21:58] <edakiri> ScottK: I retract what I said about a single library.  I really wanted to keep it to a single or few 'build systems'.  I was ruminating about how well the linker could handle 1 shared library per function or object type.
[22:54] <james_w> jussi01: hi
[22:54] <james_w> jussi01: email may be be best to contact me, as I am out of timezone right no
[22:54] <james_w> w
[23:13] <jussi01> james_w: all sorted now, thanks


[04:17] <Kilos> morning all
[04:59] <Kilos> inetpro  talk to me
[04:59] <Kilos> is giving dolphin root privileges the same as using chown?
[04:59] <Kilos> safer maybe?
[05:00] <Kilos> hi Tonberry
[05:00] <Tonberry> hi
[05:36] <Kilos> hi bduk
[05:36] <bduk> More Kilos  and everyone
[05:45] <Squirm> morning
[05:46] <Squirm> Kilos: I see you're here early today
[05:46] <Squirm> making up for los time on IRC
[05:46] <Squirm> :P
[05:46] <Kilos> yeah
[05:46] <Kilos> hahaha
[05:47] <Kilos> learning more about kde
[05:47] <Kilos> dolphin can give you root privileges so no need for chowning
[05:50] <Squirm> chown sets file permissions
[05:51] <Kilos> ya and now dolphin can do it for you
[05:51] <Squirm> you still want your files to be owned by you...
[05:51] <Kilos> less typing
[05:51] <Kilos> lets say
[05:51] <Kilos> you plugin another drive and cant do anything on it because of the permissions thing
[05:52] <Kilos> dolphin can now give you those permissions with a right click
[05:52] <Squirm> ok
[06:27] <Kilos> wb ThatGraemeGuy
[06:27] <Kilos> though you fell inna deep hole in your mine
[06:30] <Kilos> thought
[06:31] <Kilos> dunno why the t fell off
[06:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning :)
[06:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> been off sick and still without ADSL
[06:33] <Kilos> eish
[06:33] <Kilos> you better now?
[06:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> still coughing and short of breath but I'm going mad at home so I rather came to work again
[06:37] <Kilos> lol
[06:52] <inetpro> good morning
[06:53] <inetpro> Kilos: just be extremely careful!!! All I'm saying
[06:53] <Kilos> ok ty inetpro
[06:55] <inetpro> try to avoid using root privileges as far as humanly possible
[06:59] <Kilos> yip i just used chown to other drives
[06:59] <Kilos> and sticks etc
[07:02] <Kilos> i remember the time i chowned my root stuff and the weed rewrote a lot of stuffs to keep me going
[07:16] <Squirm> and dont do a chown -R on /
[07:16] <Squirm> :/
[07:18] <Kilos> hehe yeah i think that was what i did somehow
[07:18] <Kilos> shame poor weed worked hard to get me going agin
[07:36] <inetpro> hmm...
[07:36] <inetpro> anyone else struggling with google?
[07:37] <inetpro> actually google+
[07:37]  * inetpro getting "500. That’s an error."
[07:37] <inetpro> "There was an error. Please try again later. That’s all we know."
[07:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> i had a spreadsheet that struggled to save and I'm getting "temporarily unable to access your Contacts" as well
[07:38] <inetpro> yep, contacts also broken for me
[07:39] <somaunn> hello guys
[07:39] <somaunn> hi inetpro
[07:39] <somaunn> hi Kilos
[07:39] <somaunn> Hi Squirm
[07:42] <Squirm> hi
[07:42] <Squirm> coffee time
[07:42] <somaunn> yeah
[07:42] <somaunn> I'm still strugglin with kf5
[07:42] <somaunn> I'm battling to install kdelibs4support-debuginfo
[07:44] <somaunn> I'm getting  this [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.
[07:47] <Kilos> hi somaunn  SilverCode
[07:47] <Kilos> somaunn  have you disabled some mirrors?
[07:48] <Kilos> where is the main mirror for that os
[07:51] <somaunn> hi Kilos
[07:52] <Kilos> i see fedora have an irc channel
[07:52] <somaunn> I haven't disabled any miror
[07:52] <somaunn> all are activated and working, maybe i need to disable winff mirror for the time
[07:52] <Kilos> #fedora-mktg
[07:53] <Kilos> they should know
[07:53] <Kilos> hi Xethron
[07:53] <somaunn> These folks are too fast and even talking about something else
[07:53] <Kilos> lol
[07:54] <Kilos> install ubuntu man
[07:54] <somaunn> I'm asking for help since days but nothing
[07:54] <Kilos> even kubuntu
[07:54] <somaunn> ahahahah that's strange
[07:54] <Kilos> well im using kde so i can help a bit with it
[07:54] <somaunn> Ubuntu gives me headaches remember i get that gen.xyz error that cannot be solved
[07:54] <Kilos> all the yum stuff is strange
[07:55] <Kilos> oh ya
[07:55] <somaunn> so impossible to browse internet and network access is very slow when i install ubuntu
[07:55] <Kilos> something funny happening there by you
[07:56] <somaunn> yeah
[07:56] <somaunn> I just chosed to lol it
[07:56] <Kilos> what pc are you using? isnt something corrupt in it
[07:57] <Kilos> we only have squirm here who is a redhat man
[07:59] <Kilos> how is your internet connection? it seems strange that it cant find the morrors
[07:59] <Kilos> mirrors
[08:00] <Kilos> what does that yum upgrade command show
[08:03] <somaunn> Kilos: using Lenovo Thinkpad Edge E430
[08:04] <Kilos> is the drive good?
[08:04] <somaunn> Kilos: worx very well since I've decided to reinstall Fed 21 Alpha (no more getting that gen.xyz error)
[08:05] <Kilos> is the alpha version stable?
[08:05] <Kilos> do you have man pages on fedora?
[08:05] <somaunn> the drive is good, u know what strange? my younger bro did installed Ubuntu 14.04 and he's battling with that error gen.xyz + slow network speed (he uses HP EliteBook 6930p)
[08:06] <Kilos> oh my
[08:06] <Symmetria> any indication yet of when the next ubuntu release is?
[08:07] <Kilos> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseSchedule
[08:07] <Kilos> hope that helps Symmetria
[08:09] <Kilos> you can ask drussel when he comes online, he is a dev and works at canonical in the uk
[08:16] <somaunn> Symmetria: or you can google for omg ubuntu
[08:18] <Kilos> arent you happy with 14.04?
[08:19] <somaunn> Kilos: please tell me is Ubuntu 14.10 released already ?
[08:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> somaunn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UtopicUnicorn/ReleaseSchedule
[08:19] <Kilos> i dont think so somaunn
[08:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> tomorrow
[08:21] <somaunn> ThatGraemeGuy: thank you so much, a bit of download and try won't kill at all
[08:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> its stable for me, I generally upgrade after beta 2 i haven't had an issue in years
[08:21] <somaunn> comes with KDE 4 last version right (i mean kubuntu)
[08:24]  * Squirm looks around
[08:24] <Squirm> 'lo ThatGraemeGuy
[08:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> somaunn: http://packages.ubuntu.com/utopic/kde/ - looks like 4.14.2
[08:25] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo Squirm
[08:28] <somaunn> ThatGraemeGuy: cool
[09:00] <charl> good morning
[09:00] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[09:00]  * Maaz starts grinding coffee
[09:02] <Kilos> hi charl
[09:02] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee please
[09:02] <Maaz> Kilos: Righto
[09:04] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[09:04] <Kilos> Maaz  ty
[09:04] <Maaz> You are welcome Kilos
[09:13] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[09:13] <Maaz> charl: Sure
[09:13] <charl> hi Kilos
[09:14] <charl> tomorrow new ubuntu ?
[09:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> yup
[09:19] <charl> morning ThatGraemeGuy
[09:19] <ThatGraemeGuy> or a few weeks ago if you're me
[09:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> o_O
[09:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> wireless link at the new office a littly flaky
[09:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> fibre not in yet, grr
[12:10] <charl> ThatGraemeGuy: i'm also running my new laptop under 14.10 already but some things are a bit flaky
[12:11] <charl> ThatGraemeGuy: for example, youtube video playback under vlc seems to be broken
[12:27] <charl> peer got you!
[12:43] <Kilos> eish sis just had her bb, tablet and nokia stolen out of car in supposed secure parking
[12:43] <Kilos> what a blow
[13:12] <Kilos> i go replace door locks
[13:26] <charl> sorry to hear Kilos and not meaning to sound unsympathetic but even in europe we don't leave those things in a car
[13:27] <charl> that's kind of on the typical list of things not to do
[13:55] <Kilos> i told her this morning to only take her cheapest cell with, but what do i know
[14:21] <ThatGraemeGuy_> Telkom have finally decided they will replace our cables
[14:21] <ThatGraemeGuy_> service restoration targeted for friday
[14:22] <ThatGraemeGuy_> thank goodness because this 3G business ain't cheap
[15:37] <Kilos> sigh
[16:10] <inetpro> Kilos: ?
[16:14] <Kilos> what a job changing locks
[16:14] <Kilos> have you ever tried to fit a new cylinder in an old lock that they forced
[16:23] <Kilos> locking paul forced way out of place
[16:23] <Kilos> ek sukkel so i can almost say i need a drink
[16:27] <Kilos> hi Vince-0
[16:32] <Vince-0> hello
[16:46] <somaunn> Hello guys
[16:46] <somaunn> i've done some updates on my kde 5
[16:46] <somaunn> i get this error http://slexy.org/view/s2uUKjVHZL
[16:49] <Kilos> im not clued up at all somaunn  but looks like you have 2 versions of network manager installed. am i right
[16:50] <Kilos> let one of the clever guys check it out
[16:51] <Kilos> wb bushtech
[16:56] <somaunn> Kilos: yeah you right
[16:56] <Kilos> yay
[16:57] <somaunn> i'm currently chatin with the mirror maintainer
[17:00] <Kilos> i go eat now
[17:11] <somaunn> sorted but still need to sort out some other stuffs
[17:28] <Kilos> good just do one thing at a time and youll get there
[17:34] <somaunn> look like it's sorted
[18:19] <charl> good evening all
[18:30] <Kilos> hi charl
[19:32] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[21:08] <somaunn> Hello Guys
[21:09] <somaunn> broke my SDDM after all updates so needed to reinstall everything from the beginning
[21:09] <somaunn> lol
[21:09] <somaunn> now back have almost 700Meg of updates to do
[21:25] <somaunn> brb


[02:30] <kilonux> hello, I d need some help .I am on a live usb lubuntu
[02:30] <kilonux> do anyone read me_
[02:33] <krytarik> kilonux: Yes, just ask your question.
[02:33] <kilonux> ahh nice...
[02:34] <kilonux> i wonder if i should install  it on my laptop. firdefox does not work
[02:36] <kilonux> I am on lubuntu 3.19.0-15-generic
[02:37] <kilonux> krytarik:  still there?
[02:37] <krytarik> kilonux: Yes, we'd need a bit more details than it "does not work" though.
[02:38] <kilonux> it starts,but connect nothing and freeye
[02:38] <kilonux> freeze
[02:42] <kilonux> krytarik:  blocking on a message like  .. transferring data from...
[02:43] <krytarik> kilonux: Since you are here, using the same system, the internet connection seems to be fine though. Just some specific sites?
[02:45] <kilonux> since I am here internet connexion is ok, yes . ff blocks at startup
[02:46] <kilonux> do a real  install and then ev reinstall ff_
[02:46] <kilonux> _
[02:47] <krytarik> kilonux: You could run "firefox about:blank" from the terminal, and go from there.
[02:48] <kilonux> I ll trz
[02:48] <kilonux> try
[02:50] <kilonux> krytarik:  still same freeze
[02:52] <krytarik> kilonux: Then it's definitely Firefox, and not an issue with loading a specific (the default startup) site.
[02:53] <kilonux> krytarik:  so if I install lubuntu, i reinstall ff and hope?
[02:53] <Remoboth> HEllo.
[02:53] <Remoboth> Just downloaded and installed LXLE.
[02:54] <Remoboth> I love it so far as a Windows user who is very new to LInux.
[02:54] <Remoboth> A question, though --- WHere do I Find the path for a usb drive I've placed into my laptop within LXLE?
[02:55] <ianorlin> Remoboth: lxle isn't fully supported here but usually on anything based off ubuntu it gets mounted /media/user/
[02:55] <Remoboth> THanks. Checking now.
[02:57] <krytarik> kilonux: I'm not sure you have a proper install media there. But you could also reinstall it there, and pull in the new version along with it.
[03:00] <kilonux> strange though that ff does not work
[03:01] <kilonux> lack of memory?
[03:03] <kilonux> sylpheed does not start either...
[03:03] <ianorlin> as !md5
[03:03] <ianorlin> yeah there are differneces between lxle and lubuntu
[03:07] <kilonux> oo
[03:11] <Remoboth> ARe there any apps that allow me to lock my screen in LXLE?
[03:14] <kilonux> krytarik:  in fact it work, it s just incredibly slow
[03:16] <kilonux> krytarik:  no I was fooled by some lubuntu cache...
[03:16] <krytarik> Remoboth: This is not LXLE support.