[00:20] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad: I only have 10 mins left, is there anything you think needs to be done immediately?
[00:22] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, no; i'm here for the next few hours
[00:22] <akiva-thinkpad> I'll play around with the css
[00:24] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad: Great :) I will be going to sleep soon. I assume you aren't in the UK then haha! Have fun, let me know how you get on
[00:24] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, I'm canadian
[00:25] <akiva-thinkpad> A nephew of sorts to the ol union jack
[00:25] <DS-McGuire> Email me and CC in FunctionPlastic if you can if you need anything and I will get back to you asap.
[00:25] <DS-McGuire> I see, lucky, I don't want to sleep haah!
[00:27] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad: Forgot to ping you
[00:27] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, cool beans
[00:28] <akiva-thinkpad> see you tomorrow
[00:28] <akiva-thinkpad> :P
[00:28] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, make a habit of autojoining this irc channel
[00:28] <akiva-thinkpad> mailing lists bother me to no end
[00:28] <akiva-thinkpad> :P
[00:28] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad: How do I do that!? OMG, that would be so helpful!
[00:29] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, are you using a web client
[00:29] <DS-McGuire> I am using Smuxi as my IRC client,
[00:29] <akiva-thinkpad> or a program like hexchat?
[00:29] <akiva-thinkpad> never heard of smuxi :P
[00:29]  * akiva-thinkpad checks
[00:29] <akiva-thinkpad> I like hexchat btw; i think thats what most people use
[00:29] <DS-McGuire> It is the USC. What are you using? I don't mind changinf.
[00:30] <DS-McGuire> Installed.
[00:30] <DS-McGuire> So easy to do haha!
[00:30] <akiva-thinkpad> heh
[00:30]  * akiva-thinkpad loves ubuntu
[00:30] <DS-McGuire> I don't know how you do that but I love it too!
[00:30] <akiva-thinkpad> smuxi looks surprisingly alot like hexchat
[00:30] <DS-McGuire> Right, I will set this up now and then go to bed.
[00:30] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, ah type /me
[00:30] <DS-McGuire> Thanks for your help :)
[00:31]  * DS-McGuire learnt a new trick
[00:31] <akiva-thinkpad> you can also do this /list for a list of channels,
[00:31] <DS-McGuire> sweet
[00:31] <akiva-thinkpad>  /part for leaving a channel with a message
[00:31] <DS-McGuire> Thanks :)
[00:31] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, there is alsoa  bot here you can invoke commands to
[00:31] <akiva-thinkpad> !cookie | DS-McGuire
[00:31] <DS-McGuire> That's pretty sweet! :D
[00:31] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, and you of course know that you can use tab to autocomplete names
[00:32] <DS-McGuire> I know that :)
[00:32] <akiva-thinkpad>  /join allows you to join other channels... mmm yah everything else you probably know
[00:32] <akiva-thinkpad> just right click the channel you are in, and set it to autojoin
[00:32] <akiva-thinkpad> You can also set it to play a noise when you join
[00:33] <DS-McGuire> That's awesome, thanks a lot :)
[00:34] <daniel_> All set up :)
[00:34] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, np; I log off when my computer is off, but I am here whenever I'm awake
[00:34] <akiva-thinkpad> daniel_, cool beans
[00:34] <daniel_> Ah, not yet as it seems.
[00:34] <daniel_> Need my name back.
[00:34] <daniel_> akiva-thinkpad, I am almost the same.
[00:34] <akiva-thinkpad>  /msg nickserv identify DS-McGuire password
[00:35] <akiva-thinkpad> have you registered with nickserv?
[00:35] <DS-McGuire> I think I have.
[00:35] <akiva-thinkpad> okay
[00:35] <akiva-thinkpad> fyi
[00:35] <akiva-thinkpad> nickserv handles your names
[00:35] <akiva-thinkpad> chanserv handles permissions of channels
[00:35] <DS-McGuire> Yeah, I did set it up a while ago.
[00:35] <akiva-thinkpad> !irc
[00:36] <akiva-thinkpad> !ask
[00:36] <akiva-thinkpad> yah tons of little factoids
[00:39] <DS-McGuire> Hm, guess I haven't registerd. I will set it up tomorrow, thanks for getting me this far :)
[00:39] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, Goodnight :)
[00:39]  * DS-McGuire waves
[00:39] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, o/
[02:32] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire,
[02:32] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, Anything I can help with?
[02:32] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, want to know a good tip on doing css editting?
[02:33] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, sure
[02:33] <akiva-thinkpad> I watched a brief video, it helped tremendously
[02:33] <akiva-thinkpad> if you want to know what edits what, just right click the thing you want to edit in firefox, and go inspect element
[02:34] <akiva-thinkpad> you can hit the checkmark boxes on the right, and see what the site will look like with properties disabled
[02:34] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, Oh I knew that. That's the way I was trying to do the css in the sub.
[02:34] <akiva-thinkpad> want to see the video?
[02:34] <akiva-thinkpad> ah cool
[02:34] <akiva-thinkpad> yah
[02:34] <DS-McGuire> Oh I didn't know the last bit!!
[02:34] <DS-McGuire> That's awesome!
[02:34] <akiva-thinkpad> ah
[02:34] <akiva-thinkpad> !cookies
[02:34] <akiva-thinkpad> yes they are
[02:34] <DS-McGuire> Thanks :)
[02:34] <DS-McGuire> haha!
[02:35] <akiva-thinkpad> i'm at the moment trying to edit the search box
[02:35] <akiva-thinkpad> the icon of the magnifying glass isnt displayed right :P
[02:35] <DS-McGuire> Hmm, I will take a look now, I wont change anything though without saying.
[02:36] <akiva-thinkpad> same
[02:36] <DS-McGuire> Awesome :)
[02:36] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, could you edit the toolbar at the very top
[02:36] <akiva-thinkpad> so its not all in caps
[02:36] <akiva-thinkpad> ?
[02:36] <DS-McGuire> I will take a look :)
[02:36] <akiva-thinkpad> cool
[02:37] <DS-McGuire> Do you have RES?
[02:37] <DS-McGuire> Nevermind
[02:38] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, don't know what that is :P
[02:38]  * akiva-thinkpad is not a web developer in any sense of the word
[02:38] <DS-McGuire> The reddit enhancement suite, a FF and chrome addon.
[02:38] <akiva-thinkpad> oh yah
[02:39] <akiva-thinkpad> I do have that
[02:39] <akiva-thinkpad>  :P
[02:39] <DS-McGuire> Haha :P
[02:39] <akiva-thinkpad> damn this cold is getting heavy
[02:39] <akiva-thinkpad> i'm about to head to the store and pop some raw garlic and orange juice
[02:39] <DS-McGuire> If you're unwell don't be pushing yourself.
[02:40] <DS-McGuire> This can always wait :)
[02:40] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, i'd die of boredom if that were the case
[02:41] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, Haha, that's the reason I couldn't sleep :/
[02:41] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, heh :P
[02:43] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, I have fixed the header but I cannot get it the first letter of each word to be a capitol
[02:46] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, hmmm
[02:46] <akiva-thinkpad> still better
[02:46] <akiva-thinkpad> ubuntu is capitalized after all :P
[02:46] <DS-McGuire> are you working on "spacer" for the search bar?
[02:47] <DS-McGuire> Good :)
[02:47] <akiva-thinkpad> mmmmm a bit confusaled
[02:47] <akiva-thinkpad> I don't see why the other icons are showing
[02:47] <akiva-thinkpad> on hover it doesnt.
[02:47] <DS-McGuire> Yeah I can't figure that out either.
[02:48] <DS-McGuire> We have two search bars.
[02:48] <akiva-thinkpad> I think I need a way to inspect the non hover
[02:48] <akiva-thinkpad> we do?
[02:48] <DS-McGuire> Yep, inspect the very right of the current seach bar
[02:48] <DS-McGuire> search*
[02:49]  * DS-McGuire has gone to make coffee
[02:49] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, what is ubuntufr
[02:49] <akiva-thinkpad> is that ubuntu french?
[02:49] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, That is another subb reddit that I believe this css code was used from.
[02:50] <akiva-thinkpad> oh I think the other search if for search results
[02:50] <akiva-thinkpad> is*
[02:50] <akiva-thinkpad> don't take my word too strongly though
[02:50] <akiva-thinkpad> my second time editting css is bount to be full of ignorance.
[02:53] <DS-McGuire> Don't worry :) I think that there is a "submit" div box that is outside of the "search" box, if that makes any sense, it should be inside it.
[02:53] <akiva-thinkpad> okay doke
[02:55] <DS-McGuire> But I don't know how to fix it haha!
[02:56] <akiva-thinkpad> css is confusing :P
[02:56]  * akiva-thinkpad should probably sit down and learn the syntax
[02:57] <DS-McGuire> It is very haha, we will get it though :) This is how you learn.
[02:57] <akiva-thinkpad> yep
[02:57] <akiva-thinkpad> okay I have some mail I need to send regarding some code I wrote
[02:57] <akiva-thinkpad> feel free to edit at will
[02:57] <akiva-thinkpad> any chance you can take off the bold on : stylesheet
[02:58] <akiva-thinkpad> and lower the ubuntu logo (or heighten it).
[02:58] <DS-McGuire> Where do you want the bold removed?
[02:58] <akiva-thinkpad> i'll screenshot it
[02:59] <DS-McGuire> The logo I am very confused about how it actually gets rendered however I should be able to fix its spacing.
[02:59] <DS-McGuire> Okay :)
[02:59] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire,
[02:59] <akiva-thinkpad> http://i.imgur.com/N3cWxCr.png
[02:59] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, btw, shutter is an amazing application
[02:59] <akiva-thinkpad> :)
[02:59] <DS-McGuire> I will take a look at that :) Shutter is amazing :)
[02:59] <akiva-thinkpad> uploading directly to imgur is great
[03:01] <DS-McGuire> Sure is :)
[03:01]  * DS-McGuire getting coffee
[03:06] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, I cannot get it to change font, are you sure it's in bold?
[03:07] <akiva-thinkpad> fairly sure. its all caps. Anyways not that big of a deal
[03:07] <akiva-thinkpad> I am editting the reddit logo in gimp, the one with the reddit text beside it
[03:07] <DS-McGuire> If it helps I think I have fixed search...
[03:07] <akiva-thinkpad> nice
[03:08] <DS-McGuire> That's great :)
[03:14] <DS-McGuire> Let me know when you are done with the image you are working on, I am trying to make that orange bar smaller.
[03:14] <akiva-thinkpad> heh okay
[03:14] <DS-McGuire> :)
[03:38] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, oh lol nvm
[03:38] <akiva-thinkpad> it already exists
[03:38] <akiva-thinkpad> i didn't see the white because of the white background
[03:40] <DS-McGuire> No problem, last thing and I am going back to sleep, take a look at the sub, do you prefer it this way or not? I was wondering if we could keep up with the origami style.
[03:40] <DS-McGuire> Talking about the background.
[03:41]  * akiva-thinkpad is looking
[03:41] <DS-McGuire> We would need to get rid of the white to make it look better.
[03:41] <akiva-thinkpad> looking good
[03:42] <DS-McGuire> Like it?
[03:42] <akiva-thinkpad> yep; better than before.
[03:42] <akiva-thinkpad> :)
[03:42] <DS-McGuire> Awesome,  give me five more mins and I am done ;)
[03:43] <akiva-thinkpad> nice
[04:57] <Linus_> hi i installed ubuntu sdk. However i can't see anyting on devices menu. when i selected devices menu, i just can see empty screen. have i missed something??
[04:58] <akiva-thinkpad> Linus_, hey
[04:58] <akiva-thinkpad> Linus_, did you install ubuntu or are you still using a virtual machine?
[04:58] <Linus_> HI ~ i installed ubuntu main O/S
[04:58] <akiva-thinkpad> :D
[04:58] <akiva-thinkpad> Linus_, did you install the latest sdk?
[04:58] <akiva-thinkpad> sec
[04:59] <Linus_> yes it is 14.04 version
[04:59] <akiva-thinkpad> Linus_, http://developer.ubuntu.com/start/ubuntu-sdk/installing-the-sdk/
[04:59] <akiva-thinkpad> the one in the repositories is not as
[04:59] <Linus_> ah
[04:59] <Linus_> sdk
[04:59] <akiva-thinkpad> current
[04:59] <Linus_> yes
[04:59] <akiva-thinkpad> yah
[04:59] <akiva-thinkpad> Linus_, also most of us are on 14.10
[04:59] <akiva-thinkpad> though 14.04 should be fine
[05:00] <akiva-thinkpad> 14.10 is a bit less stable, but it has all the latest up to date things in it.
[05:01] <Linus_> have a update??
[05:01] <akiva-thinkpad> Linus_, uhm?
[05:02] <Linus_> ah
[05:02] <akiva-thinkpad> Linus_, 14.10 is testing. Good for app development.
[05:02] <Linus_> when i installed ubuntu
[05:02] <akiva-thinkpad> 14.04 is stable.
[05:02] <Linus_> i seleced language korean
[05:02] <Linus_> it can be problem??
[05:02] <akiva-thinkpad> nope
[05:02] <akiva-thinkpad> :)
[05:02] <akiva-thinkpad> korean should be fine
[05:03] <akiva-thinkpad> !korean
[05:04] <akiva-thinkpad> just in case you forgot :)
[05:04] <Linus_> ok
[05:04] <akiva-thinkpad> Linus_, what version of the sdk do you have?
[05:05] <akiva-thinkpad> Linus_, do you have teamviewer?
[05:05] <Linus_> not yet
[05:06] <Linus_> i just followed ubuntu tutorial
[05:06] <akiva-thinkpad> Linus_, http://download.teamviewer.com/download/teamviewer_linux.deb
[05:06] <akiva-thinkpad> Linus_, ah good
[05:06] <akiva-thinkpad> try again :)
[05:07] <akiva-thinkpad> When you start the sdk, a wizard should come up
[05:07] <akiva-thinkpad> asking you to create an emulator
[05:07] <akiva-thinkpad> or a kit
[05:07]  * akiva-thinkpad has a cold
[05:07] <Linus_> ubuntu sdk 14.10
[05:08] <akiva-thinkpad> :D
[05:08] <akiva-thinkpad> good
[05:20] <Linus_> i installed teamviewer
[05:20] <akiva-thinkpad> Linus_, mines still downloading
[05:20] <akiva-thinkpad> Linus_, I have a very slow connection where I am
[05:20] <akiva-thinkpad> very very very slow.
[05:21] <akiva-thinkpad> :(
[05:21] <Linus_> fine
[05:21] <Linus_> :D
[05:21] <akiva-thinkpad> Linus_, oh, actually, its done
[05:21] <akiva-thinkpad> whats your address?
[05:22] <Linus_> 946 812 680
[05:22] <Linus_> this??
[05:22] <akiva-thinkpad> perfect
[05:22] <akiva-thinkpad> password?
[05:23] <Linus_> c8s88x
[05:23] <akiva-thinkpad> should be like 8027
[05:23] <akiva-thinkpad> okay
[05:29] <Linus_> its very slow for me so I am having difficulty interacting with this :P
[05:55] <akiva-thinkpad> jiwan, Ping
[05:55] <akiva-thinkpad> :D
[05:56] <akiva-thinkpad> go ahead; type
[05:56] <jiwan> thank you :)
[05:56] <akiva-thinkpad> :)
[05:56] <jiwan> can you tell me what problem is?
[05:56] <akiva-thinkpad> emulator is being created as we speak
[05:56] <akiva-thinkpad> the problem was
[05:56] <akiva-thinkpad> that you did not have the right repository installed
[05:56] <akiva-thinkpad> speak*
[05:57] <akiva-thinkpad> :)
[05:57] <akiva-thinkpad> now you will always have this
[05:57] <jiwan> oh thank you
[05:57] <akiva-thinkpad> oh, check out this terminal:
[05:57] <akiva-thinkpad> its really useful
[05:58] <jiwan> ok i see
[05:58] <akiva-thinkpad> you can hide it by pressing f12 ; very popular in linux
[05:59] <akiva-thinkpad> shutter is useful for screenshots
[05:59] <jiwan> cool!! thank you
[05:59] <akiva-thinkpad> np
[05:59] <jiwan> this is my first time using linux
[05:59] <jiwan> so i was really counfused;;
[06:02] <akiva-thinkpad> see?
[06:02] <jiwan> yeap
[06:02] <akiva-thinkpad> I use shutter to help explain issues with software
[06:02] <akiva-thinkpad> makes it easy to share.
[06:02] <akiva-thinkpad> ubuntu is really powerful
[06:03] <akiva-thinkpad> press the left alt
[06:03] <akiva-thinkpad> this is the hud
[06:03] <akiva-thinkpad> this allows you to execute menu commands.
[06:03] <akiva-thinkpad> type "preferences" in the hud
[06:04] <akiva-thinkpad> jiwan, sorry I have to go!
[06:04] <akiva-thinkpad> see you later
[09:12] <vitimiti> Hi
[09:16] <linus_> i made device but it was fail and then sudden something appeared device which was cat:
[09:16] <linus_> http://i.imgur.com/s7riy1q.png
[09:16] <linus_> it can't be removed
[09:18] <linus_> and also i can't make new device
[11:22] <brasilrobotics> hello for everyone!
[13:51] <popey> nik90: do you want the clock pushed to store?
[13:51]  * popey is sat next to balloons so this is an ideal opportunity if so
[13:53] <nik90> popey: can you ask rpadovani to review https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/dynamic-pageheadstate-load/+merge/238594 and https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/unload-innerclocktexture/+merge/238630. after which we can push to store
[13:53] <nik90> rpadovani: ^^
[13:53]  * balloons floats expectingly
[13:53] <rpadovani> on it
[13:56] <nik90> thn
[13:56] <nik90> thnx*
[13:56] <popey> nice one
[14:00] <ahayzen> jdstrand, ping
[14:01] <popey> ahayzen: carries on after phone is disconnected... dnuno if it will continue to next track
[14:01] <ahayzen> popey, hah reopen the app choose another song then hit stop
[14:02] <popey> uh, its still playing after i close the app!
[14:02] <ahayzen> popey, thanks for testing :) we're really close to being confined now
[14:07] <rpadovani> nik90, I found a bug testing your branches, but not related: try to create an alarm and deactivate it, it sounds anyway!
[14:08] <nik90> rpadovani: I remember facing this issue a long time ago, I thought I was imaging stuff since I couldn't get charles to reproduce it
[14:08] <mihir_> launchapd goes crazy ...bahhh
[14:09] <nik90> rpadovani: can you check on https://launchpad.net/indicator-datetime for my old report and reopen it with your comments
[14:09] <rpadovani> nik90, I'm pretty sure, it happens both on pc and on phone
[14:10] <nik90> rpadovani: so you get the issue using trunk as well? or only when you add my branch?
[14:11] <rpadovani> nik90, also on trunk: on phone I have the store version
[14:11] <nik90> ok
[14:11] <rpadovani> nik90, I don't find your old bug...
[14:11] <nik90> I haven't made changes to the alarm switch code,
[14:12] <nik90> yeah I searched for it as well, cant find it
[14:19] <ahayzen> vthompson, try this https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/music-app/remix-image-size-fix/+merge/238883
[14:19] <vthompson> ahayzen, will do in a few
[14:19] <ahayzen> vthompson, :)
[14:21] <rpadovani> nik90, approved both
[14:21] <nik90> thnx rpadovani
[14:27] <mihir_> boiko: hey , here is MR for calculator on which we are waiting for design reviews , https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/ubuntu-calculator-app/1365564/+merge/233400
[14:27] <mihir_> rpadovani: i see some conflicts on MR , can you check and updates ?
[14:27] <boiko> mihir: nice, let me see what I can do
[14:29] <rpadovani> mihir_, sure
[14:31] <dpm> rpadovani, mzanetti, can you reproduce bug 1382730 ?
[14:31]  * mzanetti tries
[14:32] <mihir_> popey: who is cmake expert near by ?
[14:32] <mzanetti> mihir_: what up?
[14:32] <mihir_> hey mzanetti
[14:33] <mzanetti> dpm: works for me
[14:33] <mihir_> we will need some help to make cmake work for calendar.
[14:33] <mzanetti> mihir_: is there a branch I should look at?
[14:34] <mihir_> mzanetti: wait i'll give you it's an old branch need merge will do that now.
[14:35] <mzanetti> dpm: I'm afraid its the issue where the server just stops responding for some reason. still haven't found a way to reproduce though. just happens sometimes
[14:36] <dpm> mzanetti, weird, though. I can still read notes. In any case, it's still reproduceable on my phone
[14:38] <mzanetti> dpm: hmm... does it happen all the time for you?
[14:38] <mzanetti> dpm: coffee break now. lets discuss that in person there
[14:45] <dpm> mzanetti, yeah, coming in a minute, I can show you on my phone
[14:48] <rpadovani> mzanetti, where are you?
[15:03] <Linus_> http://i.imgur.com/m11RiS8.png
[15:03] <Linus_> hi
[15:03] <Linus_> i have question
[15:04] <Linus_> how to install developer tools??
[15:04] <Linus_> after this message, emulator is exit
[15:05] <mzanetti> dpm: hey, found the issue. one liner, rpadovani is fixing
[15:12] <rpadovani> mzanetti, dpm https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/reminders-app/1382730/+merge/238904
[15:27] <nik90> popey, balloons: Feel free to upload clock app rev 157 to store.
[15:27] <PaoloRotolo> Hi all guys!
[15:27] <PaoloRotolo> Can someone explain me how to use mirscreencast please :)?
[15:29] <dpm> rpadovani, thanks for the superquick fix! I added a comment -> https://code.launchpad.net/~rpadovani/reminders-app/1382730/+merge/238904
[15:30] <rpadovani> dpm, you're right
[15:30]  * rpadovani goes to hide
[15:31] <rpadovani> himself
[15:31] <dpm> rpadovani, ok, applying your patch to the right file fixes the problem. Does the fix need to be applied in both places?
[15:31] <rpadovani> dpm, yes, I applied only in tablet version
[15:32] <mihir_> hey mzanetti
[15:32] <mihir_> here is MP https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-calendar-dev/ubuntu-calendar-app/filesRestructure/
[15:32] <rpadovani> dpm, pushed
[15:32] <mihir_> it works with desktop , but it has some build Dir issues , would be great if you can help.
[15:33] <mihir_> mzanetti: ^^
[15:33] <mzanetti> ok
[15:38] <mihir_> mzanetti: thank you.
[15:41] <kunal> renatu, I was talking about this defect
[15:41] <kunal> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1347836
[15:42] <ahayzen> vthompson, try this again now :) https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/music-app/remix-image-size-fix/+merge/238883
[15:51] <renatu> kunal, ok this should be easy to implement
[15:51] <mihir_> renatu: could you help us on this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1362781
[15:52] <mihir_> renatu: the recurrence of dates is not functioning as it should.
[15:52] <renatu> mihir, could you create a small example with the problem? I will take a look tonight
[16:00] <ahayzen> popey, our daily standup meeting is at lunch time?
[16:00] <popey> ahayzen: we could probably move that ☻
[16:00] <popey> or you can go without food
[16:00] <popey> YOUR CHOICE!
[16:01] <ahayzen> popey, well we are all here so maybe just meet for lunch would be easiest :)
[16:01] <popey> kk
[16:06] <DS-McGuire> Anybody have any feedback for the design (CSS) of this: https://www.reddit.com/r/UbuntuAppDev
[16:15] <mihir_> renatu: here is the example  :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-ndZxmwbBE&feature=youtu.be
[16:15] <mihir_> renatu: let me know if you required any more information.
[16:15] <renatu> mihir, I need a qml example :D
[16:15] <renatu> a small code
[16:17] <mihir_> renatu: bahhh , qml code for ? sorry i am lost.
[16:17] <renatu> mihir, a small qml code with the bug
[16:17] <renatu> a simple qml file where I can easily reproduce the bug
[16:29] <mzanetti> mihir_: lp:~mzanetti/ubuntu-calendar-app/some-cmake-fixes
[16:29] <mzanetti> mihir_: it should work on the phone again
[16:29] <mzanetti> probably not perfect yet
[16:32] <mihir_> mzanetti: i'll merge with my trunk and will update you , thanks a lot.
[16:37]  * DanChapman can tell it's sprint week as his inbox is getting hammered
[17:21] <ahayzen> vthompson, http://pad.ubuntu.com/BZrLMRFlu7
[17:29] <popey> beuno: can we talk about multiple versions of apps in the store at some point this week please?
[17:31] <kenvandine> beuno, and adding an API we can use in the ContentPeerPicker to recommend apps that provide content handlers :)
[17:52] <mzanetti> jhodapp: hey, indeed, SoundEffect doesn't suffer from this
[17:52] <jhodapp> mzanetti, nice!
[17:53] <jhodapp> mzanetti, so it's acceptable?
[17:53] <mzanetti> jhodapp: I guess the fact that Audio is blocking so much is still an issue. But relativates the urgency
[17:53] <jhodapp> mzanetti, can you add a description of what you used to your bug report for reference?
[17:54] <mzanetti> sure
[17:55] <jhodapp> thanks
[18:26] <beuno> popey, MAYBE
[18:29] <popey> beuno: MAKE IT SO!
[19:10] <mihir> hey mzanetti probably this is regarding CMake , not sure but could you check , http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-utopic-python3/1072/console ?
[19:14] <rpadovani> dpm, where are you?
[19:15] <dpm> hi rpadovani, at the Beverly room
[19:15] <rpadovani> dpm, do you have 5 minutes?
[19:15] <ahayzen> balloons, ping
[19:16] <balloons> ahayzen, getting late here. I might be tottering off to bed
[19:17] <dpm> rpadovani, perhaps in ~15 mins at the coffee break?
[19:17] <rpadovani> dpm, sure, no problems!
[19:17] <ahayzen> balloons, late? ... jenkins is failing with that issue where the screen is too wide again
[19:18] <ahayzen> balloons, in the past 3/4 attempts 2 have failed :/
[19:18] <ahayzen> balloons, eg http://<IP_ADDRESS>:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-utopic-python3/1073/artifact/music_app.tests.test_music.TestMainWindow.test_next_previous%20%28with%20mouse%29.ogv
[19:21] <balloons> fginther, ^^
[19:21] <balloons> fginther, looks like something happened with the window manager / xserver size changes
[19:23] <balloons> did you commit the config so it didn't get lost on generation?
[19:23] <fginther> balloons, the xvfb content is still there
[19:24] <fginther> balloons, it's there in the console log :/
[19:25] <balloons> fginther, to be fair I didn't read the log :-)
[19:28] <rpadovani> mzanetti, well, your fix for switching account doesn't work properly. It actually loads a new account, but doesn't disconnect from the old one, so you have notes from both accounts
[19:30] <mzanetti> rpadovani: hmm... right... well, that's not that place
[19:30] <mzanetti> rpadovani: we need to clear the model somewhere
[19:30] <mzanetti> let me see
[19:31] <balloons> fginther, ahh right.. I see the 400x600 line at the bottom
[19:31] <rpadovani> mzanetti, seems evernote guys hasn't tested the switch account, lol
[19:31]  * rpadovani installs evernote on android
[19:31] <mihir> mzanetti: let me know when you get some time, will see at your place.
[19:32] <balloons> fginther, but I don't see anything about the window manager
[19:33] <mzanetti> rpadovani: yeah.. :)
[19:37] <vitimiti> Hi
[19:39] <mzanetti> rpadovani: something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8605636/
[19:46] <fginther> balloons, I'll try to find you before EOD
[19:49] <popey> balloons: http://popey.com/~alan/com.ubuntu.filemanager_0.3.latest_amd64.click could you upload that pls?
[19:53] <popey> balloons: also http://popey.com/~alan/com.ubuntu.terminal_0.5.latest_amd64.click please
[19:54] <popey> ah crap, filename might be a problem.
[19:54] <popey> balloons: file manager should be 0.3.303 and terminal should be 0.5.161.
[20:07] <balloons> popey, version is indeed bad
[20:07] <balloons> https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/dev/click-apps/157/changerequest/
[20:07] <balloons> reject both uploads
[20:12] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, ping
[20:12] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, ping
[20:12] <akiva-thinkpad> pong
[20:12] <DS-McGuire> hah!
[20:12] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, nice work
[20:12] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, Thank you :)
[20:12] <akiva-thinkpad> I like the "App-Dev"
[20:13] <akiva-thinkpad> there are still bits of work to do, but now its at a point where it looks sane
[20:13] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, what you working on now?
[20:14] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, I am creating a very simple logo for the top left so it doesn't just say "Ubuntu".
[20:14] <akiva-thinkpad> Top left? Isn't there a logo beside it already?
[20:16] <DS-McGuire> Yeah, that's the reddit logo, take a look, you will see.
[20:18] <nik90> DS-McGuire: can you move the "hot, new, rising" quick links below the header like in most subreddits? it otherwise appears too big
[20:18] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, hey o/
[20:18] <akiva-thinkpad> hows it going?
[20:18] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: hey
[20:18] <nik90> just had dinner
[20:18] <akiva-thinkpad> ah lucky fellow
[20:18] <akiva-thinkpad> nik90, what did you eat?
[20:18] <akiva-thinkpad> Roti?
[20:18] <akiva-thinkpad> :D
[20:19] <nik90> akiva-thinkpad: lol...no I had calzone
[20:19] <akiva-thinkpad> ah :P
[20:19] <DS-McGuire> nik90, I am struggling a lot with that bloody banner. I will do that but honeslty for now I don't see it to be a massive issue. I wanted the sub reddit to mimick this web page: http://design.ubuntu.com/web-style-guide
[20:19] <akiva-thinkpad> oh this is nice stuff
[20:19] <nik90> DS-McGuire: ah ok, np
[20:20] <akiva-thinkpad> nice work DS-McGuire
[20:20] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, Thank you, I am very proud of how sharp that banner looks on my 1080p screen.
[20:21] <akiva-thinkpad> I love that effect at the top, with the diagonal lining edge
[20:22] <DS-McGuire> Which bit? I am confused. Use shutter :)
[20:24] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, http://i.imgur.com/CrZsp1g.png
[20:25] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, I see what you mean, I like that too :)
[20:28] <Jarli> Hi is anyone here familiar with Gnome Nanny?
[20:29] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, o_O
[20:29] <akiva-thinkpad> whats that?
[20:30] <akiva-thinkpad> ah parental control
[20:30] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, why; are you looking to edit the source code?
[20:30] <Jarli> A parental control tool that seems to have died out, but its wonderful in power
[20:30] <Jarli> I was considering it, but I need to get a baring on how it was built
[20:30] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, ah good to know
[20:31] <Jarli> there is a ton of possibility there for it, one of my biggest grips with it is there is absolutely no documentation with it
[20:31] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, is there an api?
[20:31] <Jarli> for example it uses dansguardian, and .nbl files (compiled black list) in some special format for it
[20:31] <Jarli> you can still dl it
[20:32] <Jarli> The last reported change on it was back in 2010...
[20:32] <akiva-thinkpad> interesting.
[20:32] <Jarli> But I tested it last ngith and it works great
[20:32] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, some apps are like that :P
[20:32] <Jarli> besides the huge fact that you either need to find the stock .nbl (online) or add every blacklisted site individually
[20:33] <Jarli> which is rather painful to do
[20:33] <akiva-thinkpad> ah so you want to streamline that?
[20:33] <Jarli> I do, even if ti was importing just a plain text document rather than this .nbl file
[20:34] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, I havnt worked with gnome apps all that much, but I do know they have an sdk
[20:35] <akiva-thinkpad> I think jono bacon did a tutorial way back using it; I bet you would be able to import it into that, and start working on it.
[20:35] <Jarli> I havent ever worked with them, but I'm willing to to bring this app back, it has a ton of potential to be a new standard
[20:35] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, do you want to rewrite the UI in QML?
[20:36] <Jarli> I quiet honestly don't even know where to begin, I havent done any linux programming ever
[20:37] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, ah very cool
[20:37] <akiva-thinkpad> good for you to be honest :)
[20:37] <akiva-thinkpad> So what do you like most about the application? Its functionality, or its user interface, or what?
[20:37] <akiva-thinkpad> What do you want to preserve?
[20:38] <Jarli> The tools it has built in are everything a parent would want, (why something like sugar and qimo don't have this functionality is beyond me) but it needs to be built
[20:38] <Jarli> Time restricts, allowed websites, and blacklist functionality
[20:39] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, alright so you are more about the functionality
[20:39] <akiva-thinkpad> do you plan on having this be used long term on Ubuntu?
[20:39] <Jarli> so a parent doesn't have to helicopter around their child all the time, making sure some adult content doesn't appear when they are online
[20:39] <akiva-thinkpad> got it ;)
[20:39] <akiva-thinkpad> i'm trying to find the source for it...
[20:41] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, the last commit was 2014 actually :)
[20:41] <Jarli> was it, where?
[20:41] <Jarli> can you provide the link?
[20:41] <akiva-thinkpad> ah but it was all translations
[20:41] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, download bazar explorer
[20:42] <Jarli> (on windows atm)
[20:42] <akiva-thinkpad> i'll show you how to branch this
[20:42] <akiva-thinkpad> okay, well uninstall windows
[20:42] <Jarli> haha
[20:42] <Jarli> at work
[20:42] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, hahaah!
[20:42] <Jarli> can I get back to this chat in say 15 minutes?
[20:42] <Jarli> gotta drive home
[20:42] <akiva-thinkpad> and penalize yourself whatever you think is fair.
[20:42] <akiva-thinkpad> ah yah
[20:42] <akiva-thinkpad> I'm here for the next 8 hours
[20:44] <Jarli> I'll be back. Thanks
[20:46] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, What else needs to be done? I can't think of anything.
[20:46] <balloons> mihir, can you and kunal look at the utc issue? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1291225
[20:46] <balloons> mihir, tomorrow veebers and I and yourselves I hope are going to try and land the fix for the autopilot date picker issue
[20:47] <balloons> remember the overflow error?
[20:47] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, the font on the buttons need to be unbolded, and made larger.
[20:48] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, Sure, will take a look now :)
[20:48] <balloons> mihir, https://bugs.launchpad.net/autopilot/+bug/1328600
[20:49] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, Also I can't tell, but I think the black text on the sidebar needs to be replaced with coolGrey
[20:49] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, Yeah, I did notice that earlier.
[20:49]  * akiva-thinkpad is working on the filemanager app
[20:55] <akiva-thinkpad> bah wish dpm was kicking around
[21:00] <mihir> balloons: yup i do remember
[21:03] <mihir> balloons: so we need to update AP according to that.
[21:06] <Jarli> Just starting up a live CD
[21:06] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, good to hear :)
[21:06] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, do you not use ubuntu regularly?
[21:06] <Jarli> but does this look "easy enough" from what you've seen?
[21:07] <Jarli> and where did you see that this was last updated this year?
[21:07] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, its all logic, so its simple in that sense.
[21:07] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, on launchpad
[21:07] <akiva-thinkpad> its was a translation though
[21:07] <akiva-thinkpad> not a feature
[21:07]  * akiva-thinkpad is trying to think of the oldest app he still uses...
[21:07] <Jarli> I run windows for the bulk of my systems (gaming rigs) servers and other devices Ubuntu constantly, kids laptop Qimo
[21:08] <akiva-thinkpad> oh neat
[21:08] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, well now that steam is available on Ubuntu, you may be able to do all your gaming on ubuntu.
[21:08] <Jarli> Just dling the live cd, should only be another minute or two
[21:08] <akiva-thinkpad> Although to be honest, I sort of hate games; they distract me from getting work done!
[21:08] <akiva-thinkpad> :P
[21:09] <akiva-thinkpad> take your time
[21:09] <Jarli> eh im doing the Nanny for a cousin really (and his parent) the functionality that I want is already there
[21:09] <Jarli> it just needs to be refined, and maybe simplified for the blacklist importing portion
[21:10] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, do you want to hardcode blacklists in?
[21:10] <Jarli> No, I want to make the functionality of ading multiple blacklisted domains easier
[21:11] <akiva-thinkpad> thats it? Okay. Do you want to fork it, or do you want to see if your patch will be merged?
[21:11] <Jarli> as it is now, adding domains to the blacklist or whitelist is cumbersome, (name description and url, the import blacklist function from what I can see only supports .nbl files (which I can't figure out how to compile)
[21:12] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, mmmm, interesting.
[21:12]  * akiva-thinkpad thinks jarli is going to have fun :)
[21:13] <Jarli> smashing my head against a wall eh?
[21:13] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, only if its written in c++
[21:14] <akiva-thinkpad> (which it probably is)
[21:14] <Jarli> do you have the source to look at it?
[21:14] <akiva-thinkpad> sec
[21:16] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, let me know when you have it installed
[21:17] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, oh and feel free to ask any question, even if its really stupid
[21:17] <Jarli> I will don't worry
[21:17] <akiva-thinkpad> although i take it you have some programming experience on windows?
[21:18] <Jarli> Some, mostly very short scripts
[21:18] <akiva-thinkpad> ah looks like this is python
[21:18] <akiva-thinkpad> its your lucky day :)
[21:18] <Jarli> to remove the mundanity from the repetitive tasks
[21:18]  * akiva-thinkpad whips out geany
[21:19] <Jarli> the boss is only giving my 30 minutes to work on this. (damn her parents always calling us down to eat) don't they know I have things I wanna do
[21:20] <brendand> nik90, this is a really weird bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1383484
[21:20] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, your wife?
[21:20] <Jarli> might as well be, we've been together for yearas
[21:20] <Jarli> years*
[21:21] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, propose to her; you get tax credits if you are married I hear :P
[21:21] <Jarli> 500MB left to go
[21:21] <Jarli> only if you get bumped into a higher tax bracket ( ie going from making 50Grand a year single) to 120g a year married
[21:22] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, move to canada then :P
[21:22] <akiva-thinkpad> you can do income splitting, or at least you will be able to.
[21:22] <Jarli> We would get bumped up some, but it wouldn't even be worth it with the way the US tax laws are, I'd probably end up paying more
[21:23] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, You know what I love; burger king
[21:23] <akiva-thinkpad> Good ol canadian burger king
[21:23] <akiva-thinkpad>  :)
[21:23] <Jarli> hahaha, yeah.... you're funny akiva-thinkpad
[21:24] <Jarli> you know what I love, good ol american Tim Hortins
[21:24] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, no thats canadian ; headquarters in Canada
[21:24] <Jarli> haha, I know
[21:24] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, something about lower taxes
[21:24] <Jarli> it was a jab that a US company bought them
[21:24] <Jarli> BK what a load of crap that is
[21:25] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, hey hey; thats what you get for having high corporate tax rates.
[21:25] <Jarli> buys TH, to move it's HQ to canada to save on taxes, the US should triple tax them
[21:25] <akiva-thinkpad> Yah, then what you should do is built a berlin wall
[21:25] <Jarli> 90% of the top corporations pay less that 1% of there total tax bill if they were a human being
[21:26] <akiva-thinkpad> you know, to keep the canadians out (and not the americans in) :P
[21:26] <Jarli> ha
[21:26] <Jarli> It might work, until russia attacks america through canada
[21:26] <Jarli> then it'll be keeping the russians out
[21:26] <Jarli> that land bridge and all, that Sarah can see from her back yeard
[21:26] <Jarli> yard*, the ditz
[21:27] <akiva-thinkpad> nah; russians military is not organized enough.
[21:28] <Jarli> akiva-thinkpad:  can we trade contact information because I don't know if I'll be able to get started on this
[21:28] <Jarli> who needs to be organized if have a tank... I mean come'on
[21:29] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, yah np
[21:29] <akiva-thinkpad> i'm always in this channel when I'm on
[21:29] <akiva-thinkpad> so
[21:29] <akiva-thinkpad> my lp page is
[21:29] <akiva-thinkpad> ah dpm
[21:29] <akiva-thinkpad> anyways
[21:29] <akiva-thinkpad> my lp page is: https://launchpad.net/~akiva
[21:30] <Jarli> very good
[21:30] <Jarli> I don't have a lp page, but maybe
[21:31] <Jarli> anyway I can send you my private details on that LP site?
[21:32] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, make yourself an lp page
[21:33] <Jarli> doing it now
[21:33] <akiva-thinkpad> and if you want to grab me, i'm always online here. I hate communicating over email
[21:33]  * veebers waves to mihir
[21:33] <mihir> hey veebers
[21:33] <veebers> mihir: balloons tells me your working on the calendar app :-)
[21:34] <akiva-thinkpad> conference/canonical? Is there something going on right now?
[21:34] <akiva-thinkpad> mihir is the calendar app expert
[21:34] <mihir> veebers: yup kunal and I are working on calendar
[21:34]  * akiva-thinkpad really should get his merge up to snuff.
[21:35] <Jarli> akiva-thinkpad: just sent you a message on LP
[21:36] <akiva-thinkpad> cool
[21:36] <akiva-thinkpad> Jarli, enjoy your dinner
[21:41] <akiva-thinkpad> dpm, can you offer feedback to this :http://www.reddit.com/r/UbuntuAppDev/comments/2jq6g5/feedback_xlarge_large_or_medium_for_the/
[21:41] <akiva-thinkpad> its the headers utilizing different font sizes.
[21:41] <veebers> mihir, kunal awesome, me must get together this week re: autopilot, datetime and calendar testing etc. :-) (I'm sure balloons has already suggested this)
[21:43] <mihir> veebers: he has just few mins back , sitting next to us :D
[21:43] <veebers> ^_^
[21:43] <akiva-thinkpad> Also most of your suggestions have been implimented. I am unfamiliar with the dialer functionality that you speak of, and so I will need a screenshot to work off of. Was this functionality in before?
[21:43] <akiva-thinkpad> dpm ^
[21:43] <gcollura> how can I get the list of selected indexes with the optionselector?
[21:43] <mihir> veebers: sure let us know what kind of things would like to test to fix this issue and figure it out whether it is (Calendar,Test Case ,AP) :P
[21:44] <akiva-thinkpad> gcollura, an index in a list I presume?
[21:44] <akiva-thinkpad> list item *
[21:44] <akiva-thinkpad> ah opion selector.
[21:45] <veebers> mihir: can you provide some details for me to eyeball: where the testcase is, what the error is and the easiest way to run the test for myself
[21:45] <akiva-thinkpad> gcollura, the property is selectedIndex as I recall.
[21:47] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, take a look at the buttons on the right, what do you think?
[21:47] <mihir> veebers: sure let me get into that , i vaguely remember anything , and how to break that test :D :P
[21:47] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, ah the spacing is nice! and it matches the search
[21:47] <akiva-thinkpad> you read my mind
[21:48] <akiva-thinkpad> text needs to be centered, and the spacing width needs to be set to 0px
[21:48] <akiva-thinkpad> and the text should be a bit bigger imho
[21:48] <veebers> mihir: sweet. Lets make sure to meet f2f about this during this week while we're all in the same place
[21:48] <DS-McGuire> akiva-thinkpad, Fantasic, it needs some tweaking but I will do that another day. I am very tired today so I will call it a day. I will be here tomorrow.
[21:48]  * DS-McGuire waves goodbye
[21:48] <akiva-thinkpad> DS-McGuire, it looks great
[21:48] <akiva-thinkpad> o/
[21:48] <DS-McGuire> o/
[21:50] <gcollura> akiva-thinkpad, I've set multiSelection: true, I think selectedIndex doesn't work in this case
[21:50] <dpm> akiva-thinkpad, it might be worth sending a couple of screenshots showing the different options with the different font sizes
[21:51] <dpm> akiva-thinkpad, but in theory, is there not a standard size for the header font already?
[21:51] <akiva-thinkpad> dpm, right now its set at large. Do you know if there is a bool flag I can use to see if the platform is currently a phone?
[21:51] <akiva-thinkpad> dpm, I always assumed it was x-large, but as you can see, on a phone, that does not leave much space for a path to be displayed.
[21:52] <akiva-thinkpad> dpm, I'm fine with either, but considering you are pretty much mark shuttleworth, I'd pass it by you.
[21:53] <akiva-thinkpad> dpm, one thing we could do is display the full path in the dark grey seperator at the bottom of the header. Ive seen some apps do things like this.
[21:54] <ajalkane> akiva-thinkpad: hi, there was something you wanted to discuss?
[21:54] <ajalkane> (it's Arto)
[21:54] <dpm> akiva-thinkpad, yeah, that could be a good idea, have a look at calendar perhaps
[21:54] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, ah hey
[21:54] <balloons> popey, so did we fix the clicks?
[21:54] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, well right now I am at a stand still as to what to do next, and whether its fit to start rewriting the tests.
[21:55] <akiva-thinkpad> Since you and dpm are here, I was hoping to get some final feedback.
[21:56] <akiva-thinkpad> dpm, when you talked about having history, well we now have the latest path history that is always displayed until you change the path, and we also have the back button.
[21:57] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, one thing I do not know how to do, is to perform a check on whether the device running hte app is currently a phone, so I am not sure how to hide the unlock full access option.
[21:57] <akiva-thinkpad> does all this make sense?
[21:57] <dpm> akiva-thinkpad, yeah, I wouldn't worry too much about showing the history. I think if we end up implementing it, it should be on a different branch
[21:58] <ajalkane> yeah, I would hold off about the test writing for a bit. Until the functionality has been reviewed, I think there might some twiggling as this is quite big (but necessary) change). Otherwise you might end up redoing the tests many times.
[21:58] <akiva-thinkpad> dpm, okay so great; I can defer that until after?
[21:58] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, yes, my thoughts exactly. I like how its ended up.
[21:58] <ajalkane> akiva-thinkpad: the logic how to do it is in current branch. I'll dig it up, just a sec
[21:58] <dpm> akiva-thinkpad, yeah, that sounds reasonable
[21:59] <akiva-thinkpad> dpm, cool beans. Thanks for your feedback. Before I start writing the tests, do I need to find someone on the design team to bug?
[21:59] <ajalkane> akiva-thinkpad: basically it's enough to inspect this variable: pageModel.onlyMTPPaths
[22:00] <ajalkane> if that is true, "Unlock full access" needs to be shown.
[22:00] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, interesting; thanks
[22:00] <akiva-thinkpad>  I'll go check that out now.
[22:00] <ajalkane> About the places menu and the pull-up thingy...
[22:00] <dpm> akiva-thinkpad, I think it's fine. We're at the Canonical sprint this week, along with the designers. I'll see if we can chase some of them for you
[22:01] <akiva-thinkpad> dpm, cool beans.
[22:01] <ajalkane> I think the most important stuff should be in the header as buttons. Secondary important things (Create folder perhaps?) could be easily accessible from the pull-up thingy. The least important things IMO in the header's "left-overs" button, dunno what's that called.
[22:01] <ajalkane> That's how I feel anyway, but other opinions are insteresting
[22:02] <ajalkane> Another thing, you replaces "up" with "back". Is there yet any way to get "up" in the hierarchy now?
[22:02] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, yes
[22:02] <akiva-thinkpad> double click the current folder
[22:02] <ajalkane> that goes up?
[22:02] <akiva-thinkpad> so if you are in home, double click "home"
[22:03] <akiva-thinkpad> yes
[22:03] <ajalkane> okay... could it be single-click? Is there a drawback to having it single-click?
[22:03] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, Not really; I just wanted to be modest
[22:03] <ajalkane> haha..
[22:04] <ajalkane> yeah no I like that as up, but single click would be even greater
[22:04] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, its there, but it won't confuse anyone
[22:04] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, okay I'll change it
[22:04] <ajalkane> Thanks, that's great
[22:04] <akiva-thinkpad> :)
[22:05] <ajalkane> During this week I have pretty much time to put into this, so I'm happy to review and  test and comment on this branch you're working on
[22:05] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, afaik, I can only have two icons up in the header, unless I do something with the flickable.
[22:05] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, thats great. one thing I want to get implimented,
[22:05] <ajalkane> Ok... I'm not well-versed with all the restrictions with that
[22:06] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, it was a learning experience for me too :p
[22:06] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, what do you think of this: on the folder part
[22:06] <akiva-thinkpad> like not the header, but the flickable with all the folders
[22:06] <akiva-thinkpad> I'm thinking left swipe should go "up"
[22:07] <akiva-thinkpad> and right swipe should go to "down" I guess you would call it
[22:07] <ajalkane> I've thought about that also
[22:07] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, its possible with this branch now
[22:07] <akiva-thinkpad> if you want to do it, and then merge it into this branch, i mean
[22:08] <akiva-thinkpad> with all that time you have available :)
[22:08] <akiva-thinkpad> :P
[22:08] <ajalkane> though "down" does not make any sense. It'd make sense with "back" and "forward"
[22:08] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, Well back goes backwards in history
[22:08] <akiva-thinkpad> not up one directory.
[22:08] <ajalkane> yeah, then right swipe would go forward in history
[22:09] <akiva-thinkpad> oh you want to do it by history? ah
[22:09]  * akiva-thinkpad kicks himself for removing that functionality
[22:09] <ajalkane> because there's several possible ways to go "down" in dir hierarchy it doesn't make sense. History on the other hand is not problematic
[22:09] <akiva-thinkpad> I was working on forward history before
[22:09] <akiva-thinkpad> I decided against it.
[22:10] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, mmmmm no, you could go down in dir heirarchy in my branch, as long as you already went up
[22:10] <ajalkane> oh nice. It's not bad idea, though I'm not sure what the Touch designers would think about that
[22:10] <ajalkane> ah so it was kind of history
[22:10] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, yes :P
[22:10] <akiva-thinkpad> memoryRow
[22:11] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, are there any blue prints in place by the way?
[22:12] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, Do you think the filemanager should have a select, drag to another folder option?
[22:12] <ajalkane> Blueprints as in "todo" lists, yes. As in detailed UI designs, no, as FileManager has always been a not-so-core core app ;)
[22:12] <akiva-thinkpad> heh
[22:12] <ajalkane> akiva-thinkpad: yes sure, and multiselect. At least in the future.
[22:13] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, how would that work with touch though
[22:13] <ajalkane> Those are definitely things that are useful to work on. Multiselect is already implemented in file selector mode
[22:13] <akiva-thinkpad> because if you click with your finger to draw one of those rectangles...
[22:13] <ajalkane> basically I think perhaps some button that would go to multiselect mode, and then you could click each item you want to select
[22:13] <akiva-thinkpad> oh yah that is right
[22:14] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, ah interesting, like a toggle
[22:14] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, I was thinking also maybe a two finger pinch
[22:14] <akiva-thinkpad> err
[22:14] <akiva-thinkpad> the opposite of a pinch
[22:16] <ajalkane> I think very simple solutions are good for such mobile apps. There could be "select all" somewhere to select a whole bunch of files
[22:16] <ajalkane> but I'll have to be away now for some time
[22:16] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, oh yah a select all option would be great.
[22:19] <akiva-thinkpad> ajalkane, do you have much experience with keypress functionality. Looking at the blueprint; backspace to go up seems like a reasonable idea
[23:22] <vitimiti> I need to link QuaZip/-lz to my project in the CMakeLists.txt. I only know how to do this on a .project file... How can I link to the external library to be able to use QuaZip?
[23:31] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, didn't you solve this issue already :P
[23:31] <vitimiti> I think not
[23:31] <vitimiti> It keeps with the same errors
[23:31] <akiva-thinkpad> bah foiled again
[23:32] <akiva-thinkpad> vitimiti, do you love cmake yet?
[23:32] <vitimiti> akiva-thinkpad, it was easier with the .project file, but well...
[23:32] <akiva-thinkpad> yep :/
[23:33] <vitimiti> undefined symbol: _ZN6QuaZipC1ERK7QString <- It's the only error, so it should be the linking of the library
[23:35] <vitimiti> I have tried with find_package, but the module doesn't seem to be there


[15:33] <juliank> Laney: I'm not mistaken that it was you who said that about phased updates, right?
[15:34] <juliank> Laney: I need to find the backlog to figure out the arguments
[15:34] <Laney> juliank: I don't remember, maybe if you give me more context I might
[15:36] <TJ-> Anyone able to apply a debdiff to broken speedtest-cli in 20.04? bug #1923628
[15:37] <juliank> Laney: I can't find anything useful
[15:37] <Laney> what was it about?
[15:39] <juliank> Laney: When I started phased updates in apt and asked for review, I got a comment that phasing should only apply to updates to installed packages, but not to new installs
[15:39] <Laney> ahhh
[15:41] <juliank> Laney: I believe it was you, but I might totally misremember :D
[15:41] <juliank> And I can't find it without knowing who said it I guess
[15:47] <juliank> Laney: <backlog>
[15:47] <juliank> irc.freenode.#ubuntu-devel.weechatlog:2020-12-18 10:53:12       Laney   juliank: what does it do, if you install a package that you don't have installed already, you might not get the -updates version? or is it only for upgrading?
[15:47] <juliank> irc.freenode.#ubuntu-devel.weechatlog:2020-12-18 10:54:01       juliank Laney: That's a good point, i think it would install the release/security version
[15:47] <juliank> 2020-12-18 10:54:18     juliank Laney: It really just pins down updates to 1
[15:47] <juliank> 2020-12-18 10:55:32     juliank Laney: But you're right, I can make it make it phase stuff for upgrades, not new installs
[15:48] <juliank> 2020-12-18 10:55:46     juliank This also makes things faster!
[15:48] <juliank> 2020-12-18 10:57:04     Laney   Yeah, I think that's what I would expect, also a UI hint that some updates are not being applied due to phasing
[15:48] <juliank> Whee
[15:48] <juliank> I found it by the commit date :D
[15:49] <juliank> So we did not think much about it :D
[15:49] <Laney> juliank: heh
[15:49] <Laney> and now this is causing a problem somehow?
[15:49] <juliank> Laney: yeah, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1925745
[15:51] <Laney> juliank: how come the resolver didn't select u-r-u-core for upgrade?
[15:51] <Laney> "because"
[15:51] <juliank> Laney: u-r-u-core was installed already, and hence the 20% phasing applied, so it did not became the candidate
[15:51] <juliank> Laney: u-r-u-gtk was not installed, so the phsing was ignored
[15:52] <Laney> I would naively have thought that a dependency requirement would have caused it to be upgraded despite phasing
[15:52] <juliank> Laney: APT is not clever enough for those things :D
[15:52] <juliank> So I think I'll turn on phasing for non-installed packages too
[15:53] <juliank> I could phase packages only if any binary in their source is installed, but that would be much slower
[15:54] <juliank> not sure if noticeably slower, but still
[15:54] <Laney> juliank: fair enough, I don't feel very strongly about it
[16:19] <gjolly> Hi there, can someone check LP#1915571 for SRU please? MPs are up against the release branches waiting for someone from ubuntu core to have a look.
[16:42] <jochensp> Hi, libc6_2.31-0ubuntu9.3 was deleted in focal-updates resulting in systems with it installed not being able to install libc6-dev (due to version locking). I think you should provide a .4 equal to .2 instead
[16:42] <jochensp> rbalint: could you take care? (as you commented in https://bugs.launchpad.net/snap-core20/+bug/1926355)
[16:43] <jochensp> ..oups, wrong link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/1912652/comments/15
[16:46] <bdmurray> vorlon: ^
[16:52] <vorlon> bdmurray: are you agreeing that we should publish a .4 to handle the upgrade situation, despite it not having the .3 changes + fixes?