[06:39] <kkathman> Kamping_Kaiser: where are you located?
[06:39] <kkathman> just curious :)
[06:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> central australia
[06:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[06:39] <kkathman> ahh ok knew it had to be way way over there somewhere :)
[06:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> id like to be on teh east coast, but im here :}
[06:39] <Kamping_Kaiser> 'way over there' lol
[06:40] <kkathman> well you are some 14 hours ahead :)
[06:40] <corincole> hey, can someone help me please?
[06:40] <kkathman> Tm_T: is around 8 from me
[06:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> :) yeh, it owns
[06:40] <kkathman> corincole: whats the issue?
[06:40] <corincole> can someone go to #ubuntu and ask someone to unblock me...  i dont know why ive been blocked... :o
[06:40] <corincole> :'(
[06:40] <corincole> I need to talk to Seveas, but i dont think hes online atm
[06:41] <kkathman> you can try to  PM him
[06:41] <kkathman> I dont have any clout in #ubuntu :)
[06:41] <corincole> hes not online
[06:41] <corincole> are there any OPS in #ubuntu atm?
[06:41] <kkathman> I dunno I dont usually hang out there
[06:41] <Kamping_Kaiser> i love irc :) you meet ppl all over the place
[06:42] <kkathman> apokryphos is there but I dont know if he is an op
[06:42] <corincole> kkathman - can you go and ask? :)
[06:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> corincole: are you sure you dont know why you were banned?
[06:43] <corincole> yup
[06:43] <libben> look at ur status window then to check the mess =)
[06:43] <Kamping_Kaiser> o_0 its just started raining
[06:43] <kkathman> corincole: not really, because I dont know you, and I dont know the circumstances of your situation...its best if you work that out with them.
[06:43] <corincole> i was on there this morning, left without being kicked...  because Seveas was away (at IKEA apparently lol), and now i am blocked....
[06:43] <corincole> can you ask an OP to pm me?
[06:44] <kkathman> hey hussam :)
[06:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> hi mate
[06:45] <kkathman> Kamping_Kaiser: you get pretty good rains there in Central Australia?
[06:45] <hussam> kkathman, Kamping_Kaiser: hi guys
[06:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> kkathman: depends. down by the coast yes, in the center not so much
[06:45] <kkathman> hussam how are you today?
[06:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> im going to bed :) its my time
[06:46] <hussam> kkathman: fine, you?
[06:46] <kkathman> hussam: Im doin pretty good thanks :)
[06:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> see you later today :)
[06:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> in about 18 hours ;)
[06:46] <kkathman> take care Kamping_Kaiser  :)
[06:46] <Kamping_Kaiser> :D
[06:47] <kkathman> libben: what was going on with corincole's status window that he was banned...Im just curious
[06:49] <jolly_joe> Im trying to install breezy from CD, I want to set up a /home partition as FAT32, but everytime i try this I can not create a user. Can someone help me please?
[06:49] <kkathman> jolly_joe: the install should walk you through that fairly painlessly
[06:50] <kkathman> ohhh wait as a FAT32???
[06:50] <kkathman> ewwwwwwwwwwwwww why?
[06:50] <jolly_joe> so that I can have it in windows if need be
[06:50] <Tm_T> :(
[06:50] <Tm_T> not a good idea
[06:50] <Tm_T> fat32 doesn't handle user rights very well
[06:51] <kkathman> jolly_joe: best to have windows first, use partition magic to create your partitions, then install Breezy in that partition
[06:51] <jolly_joe> can I put it in quiet mode?
[06:51] <jolly_joe> i got the partitions sorted out
[06:51] <jolly_joe> just cant seem to create user, i think its permissions business
[06:51] <kkathman> I think you have to have an ext3 partition to install any Linux, dont you Tm_T ??
[06:51] <Tm_T> kkathman: ext2 is fine too
[06:51] <kkathman> cuz thats what the installer looks for
[06:52] <kkathman> ahh true Tm_T  you're right
[06:52] <Tm_T> :p
[06:52] <kkathman> I've always used ext3 tho
[06:52] <Tm_T> and you can use reiserfs too in many places
[06:52] <Tm_T> though booting partition is recommended to be ext
[06:52] <kkathman> but install, rearrange your windows first, then partition and make an ext3, then install breezy
[06:53] <kkathman> Tm_T: unless you dual boot I guess
[06:53] <jolly_joe> i got the partitions ok
[06:53] <kkathman> JakubS: even on dual boot machines with windows?
[06:54] <JakubS> kkathman: i have no dual boot machines
[06:54] <kkathman> JakubS: yah me either
[06:57] <mephysto> ebo
[06:59] <Broxtor> I have a tv attached to a pc running Kubuntu 5.10. During the boot process there's no problem, but as soon as KDE starts, my screen goes black.
[06:59] <Broxtor> Does anyone know how I can solve this?
[07:02] <Broxtor> Btw: I'm using a Nvidia Geforce 2 MX400 graphics card and I have the Nvidia drivers installed
[07:02] <Tm_T> Broxtor: legacy drivers you mean?
[07:03] <Tm_T> yeah, your display driver needs legacy drivers
[07:03] <_lucas> smarlink moden works!!
[07:03] <_lucas> smartlink moden works!!
[07:03] <Tm_T> ok
[07:04] <Broxtor> Tm_T: I'm not sure what you mean by legacy drivers. I've got the one provided with Nvidia
[07:04] <rikva|laptop> Hi, I just installed Kubuntu Hoary, I reinstalled the / and swap partition and kept the /home partition. I have one major problem; sudo doesn't work. kdesu says my password is wrong (it isnt) and sudo in a konsole accepts the password and then ignores the parameter, e.g. 'sudo ls' returns nothing. What can I do?
[07:04] <Tm_T> Broxtor: apt-cache search legacy | grep nvidia
[07:04] <Tm_T> Broxtor: those are the dirvers you need
[07:04] <Tm_T> not the one you're using
[07:05] <Broxtor> Tm_T: Thanks, I'll give that a try.
[07:05] <Tm_T> np
[07:05] <Blissex> rikva|laptop: thats really odd. Try 'sudo -s' to see if you get a 'root' shell, and then try 'su -' to the same effect.
[07:05] <Blissex> rikva|laptop: also, check '/etc/sudoers'
[07:06] <rikva|laptop> Blissex: sudo -s returns nothing
[07:07] <rikva|laptop> Blissex: su - ... what do you mean? just su works, i become root
[07:08] <rikva|laptop> in /etc/sudoers is "root   ALL=(ALL) ALL
[07:08] <rikva|laptop> "
[07:08] <rikva|laptop> and Defaults
[07:09] <rikva|laptop> 'sudo -s ls' returns "/bin/ls: /bin/ls: cannot execute binary file"
[07:12] <Blissex> rikva|laptop: consider adding a line to '/etc/sudoers' the same as the one that's there with your user name in it instead of 'root', and read 'man su' and 'man sudo' for the meaning of the options.
[07:12] <doctormo> how can I connect my Powerbook to my Kubuntu System?
[07:13] <rikva|laptop> Blissex: you saved my day. Thank you
[07:13] <doctormo> I should add by WiFi
[07:13] <rikva|laptop> this problem is propably caused because of the expert-installd i did :|
[07:14] <Roree> hi everyone, i am having a problem installing Kubuntu. I burnt the ISO to a cd, and booted from the CD fine. After going through some options it starts the installation process. When i get to the part about getting the installation files, it throws and error saying it couldn't get the files from the CD and that there might be a problem with my drive or with the integrity of the CD
[07:14] <doctormo> I can't seem to get them to match
[07:14] <Blissex> rikva|laptop: yes, likely, the default install should add your userid to '/etc/sudoers' for you.
[07:15] <Blissex> Roree: almost surely a bad burn or a bad download. Use the checksums to verify both the downloaded ISO image and the CD itself.
[07:15] <Roree> ok, how can i check the checksum? i remember doing it a while ago, but it was a while so can't remember :$
[07:16] <Blissex> Roree: with a program like 'md5sum'. The Ubuntu Wiki has detailed instructions.
[07:25] <doctormo> join #ubuntu
[07:26] <kkathman> Blissex: are you familiar with Kat ?
[07:27] <Blissex> kkathman: which Kat?
[07:29] <kkathman> Blissex: the newest one, the desktop search utility
[07:29] <kkathman> One of the helper programs it says im missing is lyx2html, and yet I cant find that in the repositories through apt-cache
[07:31] <Blissex> kkathman: looking, not totally surprising though...
[07:32] <kkathman> Im just wondering if thereare alot of lyx files on my system...Im not familiar with that
[07:32] <kkathman> I'm inclined to just ignore that
[07:32] <Roree> where can i find the md5sum for the kubunto iso image? i'm getting confused :S
[07:32] <Blissex> kkathman: ignore it if you can. LyX is a GUI frontend to TeX
[07:32] <kkathman> ahh ok thanks Blissex :)
[07:33] <Blissex> kkathman: it was the project that the founder of KDE did before starting KDE.
[07:33] <kkathman> Roree: check the Ubuntu wiki :)
[07:33] <Blissex> Roree: or any FTP download site.
[07:34] <Blissex> Roree: I prefer to download ISOs with things like BitTorrent, RSYNC or P2P like eDonkey because they do a running checksum of what they download.
[07:34] <Roree> i'm looking at the ubuntu wiki, but i can't find the kubuntu checksum
[07:34] <Roree> i might have to whack it on bit torrent tonight then. i just downloaded it through firefox yesterday
[07:35] <Blissex> Roree: use RSYNC, it will fix any problems it has without redownloading it. BT will do that too if you do it cleverly.
[07:37] <Blissex> Roree: If you beg I can find you an RSYNC URL to use.
[07:37] <Roree> please please please please please :)
[07:37] <Blissex> Roree: OK :-).
[07:37] <Roree> thank you :) i really appreciate it :)
[07:38] <Blissex> Roree: CD? DVD? Hoary? Breezy? i386? amd64? PPC?
[07:38] <apokryphos> cornicle guy -- heh, he's funny. "Doesn't know why"; ultimate spammer :D
[07:39] <Roree> CD, Breezy i386 (5.10)
[07:39] <Blissex> Roree: OK!
[07:39] <Roree> but i did burn the cd with a dvd burner (i guess that doesn't make much difference?)
[07:40] <rikva|laptop> How do I install w32codecs or something similair in Breezy?  It isn't in the multiverse...
[07:40] <apokryphos> !w32codecs
[07:40] <ubotu> w32codecs is a set of audio/video codecs for DVD-Video. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats deb to download: http://tinyurl.com/bwomt (Hoary), or http://tinyurl.com/bpxbf (Breezy)
[07:41] <kkathman> hmmm kat doesnt seem to go out and index files...unless Im just not seeing it at all :)
[07:42] <Blissex> Roree: rsync -v -p -P -v SE.Releases.Ubuntu.com::ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/breezy/kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[07:42] <rikva|laptop> thanks apokryphos
[07:42] <Blissex> Roree: Try it now...
[07:44] <Roree> i get a weird smiley in that, after SE.Releases.Ubuntu.com: then it has the smiley. Is the next bit just "Ubuntu-releases/"?
[07:45] <Sonny_Wertzik> hi.
[07:46] <Roree> hmm, how do i actually do the RSYNC? :$
[07:46] <Blissex> Roree: configure your IRC client not to smilify... it is ''colon colon ubuntu-release''
[07:46] <Blissex> Roree: configure your IRC client not to smilify... it is ''colon colon ubuntu-releases''
[07:46] <Sonny_Wertzik> does anyony know if there is a way to get a tree view on left side and folders on the right side in konqueror?
[07:47] <Blissex> Roree: that's the full command you need to do.
[07:47] <Roree> yeh, i worked that out after copying and pasting :S
[07:47] <kkathman> Sonny_Wertzik:  yes
[07:47] <Sonny_Wertzik> kkathman, hi
[07:47] <kkathman> Sonny_Wertzik: launch Konq, press F9
[07:47] <NetSKaVeN> hell-o!
[07:47] <Sonny_Wertzik> kkathman, kool thanx
[07:47] <Blissex> Roree: do that command in the directory in which you have the existing ISO.
[07:48] <Roree> i;m trying, but i can't write all the text. it stops me from writing the end of the file name
[07:48] <Sonny_Wertzik> kkathman, awsome! thank you
[07:48] <Sonny_Wertzik> kkathman, is there a way to save that configureation?
[07:49] <NetSKaVeN> anyone has the flashplayer-mozilla working with konqueror?
[07:50] <Blissex> Roree: well, type it in, use completion.
[07:51] <Blissex> Sonny_Wertzik: look at the profiles... You probably want the file management profile, not the web one.
[07:52] <Blissex> Sonny_Wertzik: there are three obvious meny entries in the 'Settings' menu related to profiles. Also, this is a pure KDE questions, there is another channel for that, #KDE.
[07:52] <Sonny_Wertzik> Blissex, is that in windoww specific settings?
[07:52] <hydrogen> hrm
[07:53] <hydrogen> If I want to compile my own kernel, but keep the friendly bootsplash and all that, is there anything special I need to do?
[07:53] <hyperactivecrond> ggrowl....... in Kmail, if i have received a pgp encrypted message it won't let me de-crypt it
[07:53] <Roree> Blissex: i'm getting confused here. i am in the command window, trying to use rsync, but it says its an invalid command
[07:54] <hyperactivecrond> automagically but i can save and gpg it manually
[07:54] <Blissex> Roree: 'apt-get install rsync' might help...
[07:54] <Roree> ooops, i forgot to say i'm in Windows :$ i don't think that works right?
[07:54] <Blissex> hydrogen: I think you need the bootsplash patch... The Kubuntu kernel has quite a few custom patches/extensions in it.
[07:55] <Blissex> Roree: you can get RSYNC for MS Windows. Have a look at the download section of http://RSYNC.Samba.org/
[07:55] <hydrogen> hrm
[07:56] <hydrogen> bootsplash patch is no problem
[07:56] <hydrogen> wasn't sure if that was all or what
[07:57] <luminoso> hey guys.. on my KDE i'am having "london" instead of date... how do i correct this?
[07:57] <qatsi> ohh im having so much trubles with my ATI card :S i need some help, could anyone plz ?...thanx
[07:57] <apokryphos> luminoso: hover over it, then scroll up
[07:57] <luminoso> qatsi, thanks!!!!!!!!
[07:57] <luminoso> finally!
[07:57] <Blissex> Roree: http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ for a prepackages version of RSYNC for MS Windows.
[07:58] <qatsi> luminoso: ? you mean thanx != thanks ?
[07:58] <Roree> thanks, i was just getting confused trying to work out what to do with the package i had :d
[07:58] <Blissex> hydrogen: you can always get the ubuntu-patch package for your kernel
[07:58] <hydrogen> Blissex: cool
[07:58] <luminoso> qatsi, ??
[07:59] <qatsi> luminoso: you said "qatsi, thannks!!!!!!!!!!!".....
[07:59] <qatsi> please help my lost ATI soul :'( i cant play anything :S
[07:59] <luminoso> yap!!! i was having problems with this.. and so simple!!
[08:00] <qatsi> uhmmm...:'(
[08:00] <luminoso> what? :O
[08:01] <qatsi> i should have bought an nvidia :(
[08:01] <luminoso> yap! ndvidia rocks!
[08:01] <qatsi> and ati sucks :p
[08:01] <luminoso> ohh sorry.. i now understand what happend
[08:01] <_poison> hi ^^
[08:01] <luminoso> apokryphos, thanks!!!
[08:02] <qatsi> i dont have support for 3d gaming :(
[08:02] <luminoso> ohhh... ati=nvidia... i can't run medal of honor 2
[08:02] <_poison> can I install Kubuntu from a running System ?
[08:02] <Roree> i'm going to have to give up on this for now. i'm getting too confused with rsync (ie. those packages are well confusing) and have to have dinner... :( thank you for the help Blissex, i'll keep hold of that link you gave me and try again later
[08:02] <apokryphos> _poison: eh?
[08:03] <_poison> apokryphos: I don't have a cdrom .... and it would be nice if I could install it from a chroot or something ...
[08:03] <Blissex> hydrogen: the package is actually called 'linux-patch-2.6.xxxx' BTW
[08:03] <apokryphos> !tell _poison about install
[08:03] <Blissex> hydrogen: the package is actually called 'linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.xxxx' BTW
[08:03] <_poison> apokryphos: thanks ...
[08:04] <Blissex> hydrogen: the latest seems to be 'linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.12'
[08:04] <hydrogen> yea
[08:04] <qatsi> apokryphos: do you know of any ati driver who works with 3d gaming ? i have fglrx and when i run glxgears i should get 700 or 1000 fps, i get about 32 :S
[08:05] <Blissex> qatsi: that means it is not properly installed. Check out #ATI
[08:05] <apokryphos> qatsi: nope, sorry -- wouldn't touch ATI :-O
[08:05] <qatsi> Blissex: thanx for the channel :)
[08:05] <hydrogen> EXS is nice
[08:05] <hydrogen> in xorg
[08:05] <hydrogen> but I think thats only 2d
[08:05] <qatsi> apokryphos: ha, i should have known about ati :p
[08:05] <Blissex> qatsi: also, if you have a 9200 or earlier you can use the DRI/DRM drivers, and if you have a 9600 you can use the experimental R300 driver.
[08:05] <Blissex> !ati
[08:05] <ubotu> methinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[08:06] <qatsi> Blissex: i have 9200 SE
[08:06] <Blissex> qatsi: then you can sure use the DRI/DRM open source drivers. The links above are for 'fglrx', and you need not have installed it. The 9200 SE is supported by default.
[08:06] <Blissex> !dri
[08:06] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Blissex
[08:06] <Blissex> !drm
[08:06] <ubotu> Not a clue, Blissex
[08:07] <Blissex> qatsi: just find any DRI/DRM/ATI HOWTO or tutorial (there are several) on how to enable DRI/DRM with the standard Xorg server and drivers.
[08:08] <qatsi> thank you a lot Blissex :)
[08:09] <hyperactivecrond> !ati
[08:09] <ubotu> somebody said ati was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[08:10] <hyperactivecrond> qatsi: ^^
[08:10] <hyperactivecrond> !xorg
[08:10] <ubotu> well, xorg is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:10] <hyperactivecrond> then do ^^
[08:10] <qatsi> hyperactivecrond: what :D ?
[08:11] <hyperactivecrond> qatsi: you're having the ati problem?
[08:11] <qatsi> hyperactivecrond: yes :(
[08:11] <Blissex> qatsi: note that in your case the DRI/DRM drivers are a lot more convenient, as every time you upgrade kernel or X they get upgraded automagically and the config does not change. With the 'fglrx' driver you can have complications.
[08:11] <hyperactivecrond> !tell qatsi about ati
[08:12] <antony_> when i insert a cd or flash card, konqueror pops up a message like An error occurred while loading media:/sda1:... sda1 doesn not exist. is this fixed by the hal update in the /topic, or is something else not working?
[08:12] <hyperactivecrond> !tell qatsi about xorg
[08:12] <hyperactivecrond> qatsi: do the ati thing first
[08:12] <qatsi> ha, tell qatsi about buying good video cards :p
[08:12] <hyperactivecrond> then do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:12] <qatsi> hyperactivecrond: ahhh :s too much info, i have to take note :p
[08:13] <kkathman> anyone here run kat actively, I've set up the catalog but nothing seems to be happening
[08:16] <Tm_T> kkathman: it's quite alpha and beta
[08:17] <Tm_T> never got it working properly
[08:18] <antony_> when i insert a cd or flash card, konqueror pops up a message like An error occurred while loading media:/sda1:... sda1 doesn not exist. is this fixed by the hal update in the /topic, or is something else not working?
[08:18] <kkathman> Tm_T: ahh ok
[08:19] <kkathman> Tm_T: I set up the catalog...do I need to do something to get it start indexing?
[08:19] <qatsi> hyperactivecrond: ahhh no, i have xconfig :'( that was my main problem with gentoo :'(
[08:19] <Tm_T> kkathman: I have no idea
[08:19] <hyperactivecrond> qatsi: you're using kubuntu, rite?
[08:19] <qatsi> hyperactivecrond: yes
[08:19] <kkathman> hmmm
[08:20] <fis> hi all :)
[08:20] <hyperactivecrond> qatsi: dpkg-reconfigure comes wit kubuntu
[08:20] <qatsi> hyperactivecrond: so i just do that ?
[08:20] <hyperactivecrond> qatsi: did you do the ati thing yet?
[08:21] <qatsi> hyperactivecrond: in the ati thing they ask me to run fglrxconfig :p which is the xconfig thing :p
[08:21] <hyperactivecrond> !tell me about ati
[08:21] <djperegrine> whats new in KDE 3.5 ?
[08:21] <apokryphos> djperegrine: go to developer.kde.org and see teh changelog
[08:22] <hyperactivecrond> so just do the tutorial qatsi
[08:22] <qatsi> hyperactivecrond: ok, im at it :D
[08:22] <hyperactivecrond> :)
[08:24] <kkathman> apokryphos: you suggested kat today, and I seem to have a bit of an issue getting it to begin indexing..are you familiar with this?
[08:25] <djperegrine> apokryphos:  I don't see it
[08:28] <zalian> how can i cofigure request tracker
[08:28] <zalian> how can i cofigure request tracker
[08:29] <apokryphos> djperegrine: release schedules -> feature plan
[08:29] <apokryphos> kkathman: haven't used it in some time, sorry
[08:30] <qatsi> hyperactivecrond: my frame rate is variable....it has reached 1200 fps..so i suppose its ok
[08:30] <hyperactivecrond> mk qatsi
[08:31] <kkathman> well I will chalk kat up to another buggy KDE app then like Kopete
[08:31] <qatsi> hyperactivecrond: sorry, that was in 5 seconds :p max in 1 sec is about 250
[08:31] <hyperactivecrond> heh
[08:31] <hyperactivecrond> kkathman: which app
[08:32] <libben> how do i restart eth1 ?
[08:33] <vonHalenbach> ifconfig eth1 stop
[08:33] <vonHalenbach> ifconfig eth1 start
[08:33] <qatsi> so now my computer should work with Warcraft III ?
[08:34] <hbrednek> I'm trying to get ubuntu loaded on a machine where I will be using RAID-1.  I was hoping to use Ubuntu's install to do this, but I cannot get past the "Partition Disks" screen.  It needs to be told that the raid device is /, which I would gladly do if I could.  Is there a way to tell it to use the raid device as /?
[08:34] <kkathman> hyperactivecrond: kat
[08:34] <hyperactivecrond> kat or kate?
[08:35] <kkathman> kate works fine
[08:35] <hyperactivecrond> ah
[08:35] <hyperactivecrond> !kat
[08:35] <ubotu> hyperactivecrond: Not a clue
[08:37] <qatsi> hyperactivecrond: thank you very much, ill see what i can do to run warcraft :D bye bye !
[08:37] <hyperactivecrond> :? ok then
[08:38] <kkathman> hyperactivecrond: no problem
[08:38] <hyperactivecrond> oooooook
[08:38] <vonHalenbach> Has anyone tried a vnc connection over the Internet?
[08:39] <apokryphos> kkathman: what's wrong with kopete?
[08:39] <Tm_T> Kopete <3
[08:39] <kkathman> apokryphos: is, and always has been very buggy
[08:40] <Tm_T> kkathman: not here
[08:40] <kkathman> I stick with Gaim...its fine
[08:40] <apokryphos> never found Kopete buggy, except when using svn here rarely
[08:40] <regeya> vonHalenbach: I usually use ssh.  y'know, run vnc server on one machine, run sshd on it as well, start up a ssh session like ssh -C -L <IP_ADDRESS>:5900:<IP_ADDRESS><EMAIL_ADDRESS>then connect to <IP_ADDRESS> in vncclient
[08:40] <kkathman> good Tm_T glad you have no probs :)
[08:40] <Tm_T> :p
[08:40] <apokryphos> kkathman: what kind of problems?
[08:40] <regeya> running vnc over teh intarweb gives me the willies
[08:41] <djperegrine> Whats the best way to install mythfrontend?
[08:41] <kkathman> apokryphos: loading themes, duplicating buddy lists,
[08:41] <vonHalenbach> Im just interested to try a testconnection without ssh.
[08:41] <hyperactivecrond> djperegrine: synaptic or apt-get
[08:42] <regeya> I really love how System Settings has a handbook menu item, but there's no help files.
[08:42] <djperegrine> hyperactivecrond: its not in the ubuntu repostory
[08:42] <hyperactivecrond> djperegrine: google it
[08:42] <hyperactivecrond> and get the dpkg format if availab
[08:42] <kkathman> Like I said, its ok, gaim works great, and they arent in trouble :)
[08:42] <regeya> I freakin' love it when kde apps offer help, then fail to deliver.  broken behavior imho
[08:42] <hyperactivecrond> le
[08:43] <dmlinux_> What are the advantages of KDE over gnome?
[08:43] <regeya> dmlinux_: that's an awfully big question :-)
[08:43] <dmlinux_> regeya thats why i ask
[08:44] <djperegrine> dmlinux_: its more about taste
[08:44] <dmlinux_> regeya no one every gives me opinions, they always say something like what you just said
[08:44] <regeya> dmlinux_: the simple way to put it is this:  if you want a clean and easy-to-use desktop, choose gnome.  if you want something that's usable but runs the risk of hitting you with feature overload, use kde.
[08:44] <regeya> dmlinux_: the simple way to put it is this:  if you want a clean and easy-to-use desktop, choose gnome.  if you want something that's usable but runs the risk of hitting you with feature overload, use kde.
[08:44] <dmlinux_> djperegrine, is tehere a site with Screenshots of only KDE?
[08:44] <kkathman> regeya: thats funny :)
[08:44] <regeya> dmlinux_: kde.org
[08:46] <dmlinux_> i run KDE stuff from gnome, it doesnt bother me that it all floats on my memory , i was just curious if it had anything that gnome didnt. i like gnome, very sleek , and neat
[08:47] <kkathman> dmlinux_: bottom line its just a matter of preference, there are many desktops (GUI) to choose from..find the one you like :)
[08:47] <dmlinux_> kk thanks all
[08:47] <regeya> dmlinux_: I personally chose to go back to KDE because I didn't care whether or not the apps I used met the requirements of some arbitrary HIG.  It bugs me that long after things were thrown out of GNOME apps because they didn't conform to the GNOME HIG, they still aren't back and don't seem to be coming back.  It bugs me that newer apps like, erm, don't remember the name but some media app that looks like it'll take the Rhyth
[08:47] <regeya>  bugs me that GNOME is doing the things that people used to accuse KDE of doing, yet it's all fine and dandy this time around.  Mostly, though, I just like KDE better.  I don't feel the need to run to an xterm as often, which I see as a good thing.
[08:48] <regeya> well, *that* was a wasted effort...
[08:50] <endo602> how can i tell whether my hp multifunction printer is working on this system?
[08:52] <kkathman> endo602: print to it?
[08:52] <endo602> i dont have ink
[08:52] <endo602> i just want to know if its configured
[08:53] <kkathman> endo602: did you install the drivers?
[08:54] <endo602> the packages were installed
[08:54] <kkathman> endo602: When you set the printer up, it gives you the option to print a test page
[08:54] <kkathman> endo602: well you still have to install the driver
[08:55] <kkathman> endo602: go to System Settings - Hardware - Printers
[08:55] <endo602> i see it
[08:55] <endo602> its on my other system
[08:55] <endo602> so i guess i gotta wait
[08:56] <endo602> until my wife is done with her game to setup the printer
[08:56] <endo602> thanks bro
[08:56] <kkathman> np
[08:56] <endo602> it wasnt set up
[08:56] <endo602> ill do it as soon as possible
[08:56] <endo602> by the wya
[08:56] <endo602> i formatted that USB drive to fat32
[08:56] <kkathman> yah, loading install files isnt enough...still have to set it up...usually with cups
[08:56] <endo602> and not deal
[08:57] <endo602> i use samba to network with my desktop
[09:00] <endo602> has anyone tried changing the icon for kmenu?
[09:00] <endo602> its not working for me
[09:01] <kkathman> endo602: I use samba also, my printer is actually connected to my winbox, and I use cups to print through it
[09:01] <endo602> cups?
[09:04] <kkathman> endo602:  yes cups...its installed standard on your system
[09:04] <endo602> where can i find it
[09:04] <kkathman> endo602: you dont need to "find it" its there
[09:04] <endo602> oh
[09:04] <endo602> so i just set it up?
[09:05] <endo602> and all is fine?
[09:06] <endo602> kkathman: can i pm you>
[09:06] <endo602> ?
[09:10] <kkathman> endo602:  sure
[09:12] <kkathman> endo602: having the files installed on the system, is kinda like having a cd. The files are now there, but you still have to go through the process of adding the printer, and telling the system where it is, and how to access it
[09:14] <vonHalenbach> libben : Has it worked?
[09:18] <libben> is alt+f2 having the same $PATH as the terminal has?
[09:19] <hyperactivecrond> libben: yes?
[09:20] <libben> so why isnt it allways give me a error about something on the torrent when i try to download them when started it thru alt f2. but when i start from terminal its all ok
[09:20] <libben> isnt == is it =)
[09:26] <Blissex> libben: the same path a terminal had when you logged in.
[09:28] <kkathman> sorry endo602 I stepped away a moment...just got your PM
[09:28] <endo602> no worries
[09:29] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> hi guys
[09:29] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> look at this
[09:29] <wotnarg> wow... artsd one even start for me atm :p
[09:29] <vonHalenbach> hi Tallia
[09:29] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> Using compiler "/usr/bin/gcc". Use environment variable CC to override.
[09:29] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> Your kernel was built with "gcc" version "3.4.5", while you are trying to use
[09:29] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2". This configuration is not supported and VMware
[09:29] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> Workstation cannot work in such configuration. Please either recompile your
[09:29] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> kernel with "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2", or restart /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
[09:29] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> with CC environment variable pointing to the "gcc" version "3.4.5".
[09:29] <endo602> anyone get their USB pendrive to work?'
[09:29] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> i never recompile the kernel
[09:29] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> is it a tricky and long operation?
[09:29] <kkathman> Tallia1-KubuntuB: please read the topic, and dont flood...put that in a pastebin
[09:30] <wotnarg> endo602: Mine works just fine.
[09:30] <endo602> what you got?
[09:30] <endo602> what company
[09:30] <wotnarg> errmmm... 'ep memory', and lexar, but it doesnt matter
[09:30] <endo602> because my lexar is not working
[09:30] <wotnarg> They should all work if they are standard flashdrives
[09:30] <wotnarg> whats not working about it?
[09:31] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> isn't possible to download a precompiled version of the kernel?
[09:31] <endo602> when i plug in konq pops up with error
[09:31] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> like the one that ubuntu gave me when i installed the system several months ago?
[09:31] <wotnarg> Tallia1-KubuntuB: yea...
[09:31] <wotnarg> Tallia1-KubuntuB: apt-get install linux-image-blah
[09:31] <endo602> The file or folder media:/sba1 does not exist
[09:31] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> i haven't got time for recompile..
[09:31] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> and which must be the blah....
[09:31] <wotnarg> endo602: go to konsole, and try 'sudo mount /dev/sda1'
[09:32] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> i need a kernel compiled with the last gcc
[09:32] <wotnarg> like, 4.0?
[09:32] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> yes
[09:32] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> 4.0.2
[09:32] <wotnarg> all kubuntu kernels will be then
[09:32] <wotnarg> open adept
[09:32] <wotnarg> and install one
[09:33] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> i'm opening synaptics now
[09:33] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> why when i upgraded the system the kernel haven't been?
[09:33] <wotnarg> endo602: any luck?
[09:33] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> ( updated to breezy )
[09:33] <endo602> Password:
[09:33] <endo602> mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[09:33] <wotnarg> Erm, it should have. I'm not sure why it didnt.
[09:33] <wotnarg> endo602: paste your fstab in a pastebin?
[09:33] <endo602> how
[09:33] <wotnarg> paste.ubuntu.nl
[09:34] <wotnarg> I believe is one of them
[09:34] <wotnarg> paste it, then post the address.
[09:34] <kkathman> Tallia1-KubuntuB: tell me about your upgrade... what were you on before and how did you upgrade?
[09:34] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> wotnarg: i alredy have them installed
[09:34] <endo602> ok
[09:34] <endo602> how do i get my fstab
[09:34] <wotnarg> cat /etc/fstab
[09:34] <wotnarg> Tallia1-KubuntuB: So whats the problem?
[09:34] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> i were on hoary and i substitute repositories with breezy
[09:34] <kkathman> Tallia1-KubuntuB: then what
[09:34] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> that i can't install vmware because it requires a gcc 4 compiled kernel
[09:35] <kkathman> did you have vmware under hoary?
[09:35] <_jorge_> alguem fala portugues ou espang=hol?
[09:35] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> yes, but i deleted it now.. i downloaded the new version
[09:35] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> and i am trying to install it on the new system
[09:35] <kkathman> Kubuntu or ubuntu?
[09:35] <Blissex> _jorge_: #Ubuntu-es or similar for PT/BR
[09:35] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> kubuntu
[09:35] <wotnarg> _jorge_: #kubuntu-es
[09:36] <endo602> no such cat wotnarg
[09:36] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> kkathman: what do you suggest me?
[09:36] <wotnarg> endo602: cat /etc/fstab returns an error?
[09:36] <kkathman> Tallia1-KubuntuB: no clue, but sounds like vmware has some major restrictions
[09:37] <vonHalenbach> sudo cat /etc/fstab
[09:37] <endo602> got it
[09:37] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> how can i check which version of the kernel have been loaded on boot?
[09:37] <wotnarg> vonHalenbach: For future reference, you dont need sudo to cat that file ;)
[09:37] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> and is runnign now?
[09:37] <wotnarg> uname -r
[09:37] <vonHalenbach> oh. Thanks
[09:39] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> ?
[09:39] <endo602> wotnarg
[09:39] <wotnarg> Tallia1-KubuntuB: uname -r in a console will give you ther version your running.
[09:39] <endo602> i just put it in pm
[09:39] <wotnarg> ok
[09:39] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> 2.6.12-9-386
[09:39] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> it is the correct one
[09:39] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> but why it is not compiled with the new gcc?
[09:39] <endo602> tell me what you think
[09:40] <wotnarg> endo602: yea, its not in there. do you know what device your usb drive is in?
[09:40] <kkathman> Tallia1-KubuntuB: I think the breezy kernel is like 2.6.12 something
[09:40] <vonHalenbach> endo : Is it a brand new usbpen ?
[09:40] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> 2.6.12-9-386
[09:40] <kkathman> Tallia1-KubuntuB: its 2.6.12-9
[09:40] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> kkathman: yes,... but why it is not compiled with gcc 4?
[09:41] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> kkathman: i have that!
[09:41] <vonHalenbach> Have you used it with another computer ?
[09:41] <wotnarg> endo602: try: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 -t vfat
[09:41] <wotnarg> endo602: first do sudo mkdir /mnt/sda1 though
[09:41] <vonHalenbach> Is a filesystem on it?
[09:42] <wotnarg> vonHalenbach: They come formatted, so that shouldn't be a problem.
[09:42] <kkathman> Tallia1-KubuntuB: it is compiled with 4...the current gcc is 4.0.1-3
[09:42] <vonHalenbach> I know.
[09:42] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> kkathman: what can i do?
[09:42] <endo602> done wotnarg
[09:42] <endo602> what now?
[09:42] <wotnarg> endo602: It work?
[09:42] <kkathman> Tallia1-KubuntuB: check with vmware maybe?
[09:43] <wotnarg> endo602: aka did it return nothing but a prompt?
[09:43] <endo602> nope
[09:43] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> kkathman: ?
[09:43] <kkathman> yes?
[09:43] <wotnarg> endo602: What did it return?
[09:43] <endo602> nothing
[09:43] <endo602> then i did it again and got
[09:43] <endo602> levi@Laptop:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 -t vfat
[09:43] <endo602> levi@Laptop:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 -t vfat
[09:43] <endo602> mount: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /mnt/sda1 busy
[09:43] <endo602> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda1 is already mounted on /mnt/sda1
[09:43] <endo602> sorry
[09:43] <wotnarg> yea
[09:43] <endo602> about the paste
[09:44] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> kkathman: i don't understand
[09:44] <wotnarg> so it worked
[09:44] <endo602> nice
[09:44] <wotnarg> endo602: When you do mount, and nothing is shown, it means it worked.
[09:44] <endo602> now what do i do
[09:44] <endo602> cool
[09:44] <wotnarg> It is now mounted in /mnt/sda1
[09:44] <wotnarg> but, for later
[09:44] <wotnarg> do sudo nano /etc/fstab, or sudo kwrite /etc/fstab
[09:44] <endo602> how do i access it
[09:44] <wotnarg> or whatever edit you like
[09:44] <kkathman> Tallia1-KubuntuB: do you know how to use google?  Here is exactly what you need to know:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75895.html
[09:45] <endo602> ok
[09:45] <endo602> then
[09:45] <wotnarg> and then add the line: /dev/sda1       /mnt/sda1       vfat    rw,user         0       0
[09:45] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> how can i set a temporary environment variable CC that points to gcc3.4?
[09:45] <kkathman> Tallia1-KubuntuB: see my previous post
[09:46] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> i saw
[09:46] <kkathman> Tallia1-KubuntuB: follow that link..it tells you what t do
[09:46] <endo602> done
[09:47] <endo602> next?
[09:47] <wotnarg> endo602: Ok, do umount /mnt/sda1, then do sudo mount /mnt/sda1
[09:47] <wotnarg> err
[09:47] <wotnarg> no sudo on second one
[09:47] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> kkathman: tnx
[09:47] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> kkathman: bye
[09:47] <wotnarg> mount /mnt/sda1, not sudo
[09:48] <endo602> ummm
[09:48] <endo602> no command unmount
[09:48] <wotnarg> bleh, I totally messed that one up
[09:48] <endo602> sorry
[09:48] <wotnarg> do: sudo umount /mnt/sda1; mount /mnt/sda1
[09:48] <wotnarg> there we go :p
[09:48] <endo602> ive got mad newbality
[09:49] <endo602> check pm
[09:49] <wotnarg> endo602: Its umount, not unmount. Thats not a spelling error ;p
[09:49] <endo602> sorry
[09:50] <kkathman> endo602: everyone is a newbie at some point
[09:50] <wotnarg> yup
[09:51] <kkathman> endo602: but the way you learn is to research, use google, and try..see what works
[09:52] <endo602> ok
[09:52] <endo602> i did that
[09:52] <sector10> hi
[09:52] <endo602> with my resolution
[09:52] <wotnarg> it return nothing?
[09:52] <endo602> yeah
[09:52] <endo602> nothing
[09:52] <wotnarg> ok
[09:52] <endo602> nice
[09:52] <wotnarg> go to konq
[09:52] <wotnarg> and do
[09:52] <wotnarg> file:///mnt/sda
[09:52] <wotnarg> sda1
[09:52] <wotnarg> and there your flashdrive should be.
[09:52] <endo602> BRAVO
[09:52] <sector10> anybody have any issues runnin kubuntu alongside ubuntu, im about to install kubuntu?
[09:53] <endo602> now can i hook thqat up to my mount/unmount applet?
[09:53] <wotnarg> hopefully your applet should work now.
[09:54] <vonHalenbach> sector10 : What kind of soundcard do you have?
[09:54] <sector10> intell on vaio
[09:54] <sector10> it will work
[09:54] <kkathman> YAY congrats endo602  :)
[09:55] <sector10> whats kde like?
[09:55] <endo602> thanks man
[09:55] <endo602> wotnarg
[09:55] <endo602> it aint
[09:55] <vonHalenbach> ok . i had problems with a isa pnp soundcard
[09:55] <wotnarg> applet still doesnt work?
[09:55] <sector10> ive used kde in suse, is it as nice?
[09:55] <wotnarg> kde is fairly standard over the distros, sector10.
[09:55] <sector10> vonHalenbach: isa well
[09:55] <vonHalenbach> I used suse 80 bevore.
[09:56] <endo602> yes
[09:56] <wotnarg> endo602: Is that a yes it doesnt work, or a yes it does work.
[09:56] <endo602> doesnt
[09:56] <vonHalenbach> sector10: Wir knnen auch deutsch reden.
[09:56] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> kkathman: i need the linux headers for the kernel.. in which package are them ?
[09:56] <endo602> its the storage media applet right?
[09:56] <wotnarg> endo602: Does it give an error?
[09:56] <sector10> vonHalenbach: ein bischen
[09:57] <sector10> vonHalenbach: es gebt auch kubuntu auf deutsche
[09:57] <sector10> wotnarg: are the ubuntu changes to kde for the better?
[09:57] <vonHalenbach> switch back to english
[09:58] <endo602> gives same error as before when i unplug and plug back in
[09:58] <endo602> but then when i mount again
[09:58] <endo602> it works
[09:58] <endo602> the applet doesnt work
[09:58] <wotnarg> sector10: I'd say so.
[09:58] <vonHalenbach> wotnarg: automounter ?
[09:58] <wotnarg> vonHalenbach: hrm
[09:59] <wotnarg> endo602: Whats the error when plugging it in?
[09:59] <sector10> wotnarg: have you had any issues switching back and forth from gnome?
[09:59] <vonHalenbach> hrm ?
[09:59] <wotnarg> sector10: In hoary, no, breezy, havnt tried it yet.
[09:59] <wotnarg> vonHalenbach: What did you mean by automounter?
[09:59] <endo602> that same media:/sda1 does not exist
[10:00] <wotnarg> hrm
[10:00] <wotnarg> do
[10:00] <wotnarg> sudo mkdir /media/sda1
[10:00] <wotnarg> and see if it works
[10:00] <vonHalenbach> is the automounter for automatic mounting of memorysticks?
[10:00] <sector10> wotnarg: when i tried kubuntu last the fonts looked poor or worse than ubuntu anyway
[10:00] <sector10> wotnarg: maybe ill just install it
[10:00] <sector10> thanks
[10:00] <wotnarg> vonHalenbach: I'm not sure. In kde3.5beta, it has an automounter built in, so I'm not familiar with the applet.
[10:00] <endo602> that worked
[10:01] <wotnarg> endo602: Now does the applet work?
[10:01] <wotnarg> sector10: Did you install the qt-gtk theme converter package?
[10:01] <vonHalenbach> I use Kubuntu 5.10 RC . And on my computer it mouts automaticly.
[10:01] <endo602> well if the applet is the one i am thinking about it isnt
[10:01] <endo602> i got storage media applet on
[10:03] <endo602> that is the right applet\
[10:03] <endo602> but its not mounting on there
[10:03] <wotnarg> hrm
[10:04] <sector10> no
[10:04] <wotnarg> So when you plug it in, does a window pop up and ask you what to do with the usb drive?
[10:04] <sector10> wotnarg: whats that
[10:04] <wotnarg> sector10: lemme find name
[10:04] <endo602> no
[10:04] <endo602> it doesnt
[10:05] <wotnarg> sector10: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt <this makes your gtk apps look like qt ones, and it converts fonts.
[10:05] <sector10> cool
[10:05] <sector10> great
[10:05] <wotnarg> endo602: I dunno then. If all else fails you can just mount/umount it manually.
[10:05] <sector10> ill install it first
[10:05] <endo602> alright
[10:05] <endo602> that sux
[10:05] <endo602> but i guess it will work
[10:05] <endo602> thanks man
[10:06] <wotnarg> sector10: It most likely only works when running qt though, so you wont see any change in gnome.
[10:06] <wotnarg> endo602: Sorry I can't help more, but I'm not even running the same kde version, so this is all from memory ;/
[10:06] <sector10> of course.
[10:06] <blackflag> hello all :-)
[10:06] <sector10> just doing it so i dont forget
[10:06] <wotnarg> blackflag: sup?
[10:06] <wotnarg> sector10: yea ;)
[10:06] <sector10> thanks take care
[10:06] <blackflag> sup? what do you mean?
[10:07] <sector10> by the way bzflag is still broke
[10:07] <sector10> in debian
[10:07] <sector10> also the real player installer is a joke
[10:07] <sector10> best to get from real.com
[10:08] <blackflag> I have problem with gpg
[10:08] <blackflag> I tried to send signed mails inline so m4 users can easily read this message
[10:09] <blackflag> its always attached
[10:09] <blackflag> encypted mails inline are okay
[10:10] <blackflag> so how can I tell gpg or kmail to send inline gpg signewd messages inline and not attached?
[10:10] <endo602> im going to restart x to see
[10:11] <blackflag> has someone an idea??
[10:13] <endo602> still no good
[10:14] <PabloK> hi
[10:14] <vonHalenbach> blackflag: http://gpg-installation.key.priv.at/gpg-installation_kmail.html
[10:14] <PabloK> somebody can help me?
[10:15] <blackflag> hmm, thanks, but tzhis is not the problem
[10:16] <blackflag> the problem is that when I use " inlinePGP" and sign a mail
[10:16] <blackflag> the sign is attached and not inline
[10:17] <vonHalenbach> Da bin ich glatt berfordert.
[10:17] <blackflag> so this thing dont function correctly it seems
[10:17] <PabloK> I have a "little" problem with my root passsw
[10:17] <wotnarg> PabloK: You forgot it? :p
[10:17] <blackflag> and how I say it, when I send encrypted mails inline all is okay
[10:18] <blackflag> only "inline signing" not
[10:18] <vonHalenbach> Im sorry . I cant help you.
[10:18] <blackflag> I mean when I only sign a mail not with encryption
[10:19] <PabloK> wotnarg: no, when I installed kubuntu, I never get the chance to set it
[10:19] <blackflag> hmm, schade
[10:19] <vonHalenbach> When a mail is only singed , it is not encrypted.
[10:19] <wotnarg> PabloK: Its your user password. Root is disabled, so you use sudo for everything.
[10:19] <blackflag> yes I know. There is no need to discuss that
[10:20] <endo602> wotnarg
[10:20] <endo602> dood thanks so much
[10:20] <vonHalenbach> Then i dont know.
[10:20] <wotnarg> endo602: No problem :)
[10:20] <blackflag> again, I will sent a signed mail inline and this is not running
[10:20] <blackflag> the sign is always attached
[10:21] <PabloK> wotnarg: thanx
[10:21] <wotnarg> PabloK: Nps ;)
[10:23] <vonHalenbach> blackflag: I dont understand the term "inline".
[10:23] <vonHalenbach> What do you mean by that.
[10:24] <vonHalenbach> Do you mean inhouse communication?
[10:24] <blackflag> when you use kmail there is the possibilityy to send signed and encrypted mails in line
[10:25] <blackflag> so other nad older clients can read such messages
[10:25] <blackflag> like M$ -users with outlook
[10:26] <blackflag> I dont know it correcly but I asume that it is in mail body
[10:27] <blackflag> when you use normal pgp in kmail
[10:27] <blackflag> outlook users has this messages attached
[10:28] <wotnarg> sheesh... kde3.5 artsd sucks. I set amarok to output to oss, and screwed artsd entirely, and my cpu level went down by 50% :p
[10:28] <blackflag> when you sent it inline to them , the mail client can read this mail easy
[10:28] <blackflag> so there is no need to open it with other applications or save the mail first
[10:29] <blackflag> and how  I say it, with inline encrypted mails it works
[10:29] <vonHalenbach> I think what you describe as inline is the normal behavior of Kmail.
[10:29] <blackflag> no
[10:30] <blackflag> I have some M$ users around ;-)
[10:30] <blackflag> and its difficult to them to open such mails
[10:30] <blackflag> I want to make it easy for them to use encryption
[10:31] <vonHalenbach> Do we discuss Ms outlook or Kmail?
[10:31] <blackflag> and to say them how easy it is with linux
[10:31] <blackflag> kmail
[10:31] <blackflag> inline pgp using
[10:32] <vonHalenbach> Encryption and decryption is includet in Kmail.
[10:32] <blackflag> I think you dont understand me
[10:32] <vonHalenbach> It is very easy (if it is alreddy set up).
[10:33] <blackflag> hello ::: sending signed mails inline!! thats the issue!
[10:33] <vonHalenbach> You dont have to go on the commandline do decrypt a recived email.
[10:34] <vonHalenbach> I have set this up with gpg and Kmail once.
[10:34] <chi> install kleopatra and you're pretty much all set
[10:35] <kkathman> kleopatra?? lol
[10:35] <blackflag> ftp-client
[10:36] <kkathman> I use KBear for and FTP Client
[10:36] <kkathman> Konqueror is good for FTP also
[10:37] <kkathman> Konq is the simplest too
[10:37] <blackflag> kleopatra is good with sFTP
[10:37] <kkathman> Konq works with most other applications too
[10:39] <asraniel> i have a laptop question. the battery only lasts 1.30 hours under linux, but with windows 4 hours. what can i do? i alread lowered the backlight (is there a utility that does that? or can i only use the buttons on the laptop?) and im not realy sure that cpu freq scalling works..
[10:40] <kkathman> asraniel: I would first, check the running processes and see if you have some runaway resources
[10:42] <asraniel> kkathman: whatever a runaway resource is. x.org needs 20% of the cpu, and expect that there is nothing interesting
[10:42] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> hey guys, i have this request:
[10:43] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[10:43] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
[10:43] <__2> Someone know why kaffeine close on open with avi files (installed kaffeine-xine and codecs)
[10:43] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> which package have i to install? is it possible that the headers are inserted in another direcotry?
[10:44] <kkathman> Tallia1-KubuntuB: what package are you trying to download
[10:44] <zan_d> hello
[10:44] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> kkathman: vmware in order to be compiled requires the headers..
[10:44] <kkathman> Hello zan_d
[10:44] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> kkathman: and i don't know where to find them
[10:45] <zan_d> i have a laptop with a busted cd drive
[10:45] <kkathman> Tallia1-KubuntuB: ok, so what package do you need?
[10:45] <zan_d> so i pulled the hd out, and put it in a desktop machine
[10:45] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> linux headers?
[10:45] <zan_d> installed there and then put it back in the laptop
[10:45] <chi> Tallia1-KubuntuB: seach for linux or kernel headers
[10:45] <kkathman> Tallia1-KubuntuB:  you might could find out in #ubuntu
[10:45] <Tallia1-KubuntuB> i installed them
[10:45] <zan_d> it appears that the normal grub boot entry has some wierd display configuration
[10:45] <zan_d> that thinks the screen is longer than it is
[10:45] <zan_d> but the recoveruy booth i guess works
[10:46] <zan_d> what is the difference between recovery mode and normal?
[10:47] <zan_d> or can i just use the recovery mode as default
[10:48] <_liquidbinary_> zan_d: recovery mode seems to drop you into a root shell so you can fix any problems before runlevel 2
[10:48] <zan_d> ahh
[10:48] <zan_d> so i just hit ctrl-d
[10:49] <_liquidbinary_> yes
[10:49] <zan_d> and it booted, but worked
[10:49] <asraniel> hmm, does someone know how i can find out how to make cpu frequence scalling work on a centrino laptop? or where do i find error messages why it doesent work?
[10:56] <vonHalenbach> bye
[10:56] <yhager> I'm having problems with kmail ever since upgrading to breezy. Can anyone help?
[10:57] <chi> asraniel: check dmesg for any msgs.
[11:02] <_andrea> hi guys
[11:02] <unsurreal> hello
[11:02] <_andrea> :-) ok seems that my kubuntu connexts properly
[11:03] <_andrea> i've finished installing and playing arounf
[11:03] <_andrea> d
[11:03] <unsurreal> questions i assume?
[11:03] <_andrea> not for the moment :-)
[11:03] <_andrea> everything went fine ;-)
[11:03] <unsurreal> lol
[11:03] <_andrea> I had problems with suse 10
[11:03] <unsurreal> try playing a windows avi :P
[11:03] <_andrea> ahahahah
[11:03] <unsurreal> first time linux or no?
[11:03] <_andrea> i left mplayer for another day......
[11:04] <_andrea> nope used suse and mandrake for about 1 year
[11:04] <sector10> hi
[11:04] <_andrea> hi sector
[11:04] <sector10> i got a couple small problems new install
[11:04] <_andrea> I just installed java and flash for the moment
[11:04] <_andrea> let's see if a newbie can help
[11:04] <Elsan> AmaroK stops working when I have playlist in GNOME. I have no idea if it does the same in KDE. I can't use Rhythmbox because it also bugs in GNOME.
[11:05] <sector10> on opening firefox error /usr/share/ubuntu-artwork cannot be found
[11:05] <crimsun> install it.
[11:05] <N6REJ> apokryphos: you here?
[11:05] <sector10> also my fonts dont look as good as in ubuntu
[11:05] <crimsun> sector10: so adjust the fonts settings
[11:05] <_andrea> for the fonts...
[11:05] <sector10> crimsun: to what?
[11:05] <_andrea> try playing with subpixel hinting
[11:06] <_andrea> i found rgb is the best on my monitor
[11:06] <crimsun> sector10: use whatever you find makes it look better
[11:06] <_andrea> but it really depends on the monitor
[11:06] <_andrea> I've got an lcd of a laptop here
[11:06] <sector10> its a notebook
[11:06] <_andrea> which one sector
[11:06] <sector10> right now i got dejavu sans
[11:06] <sector10> sony vaio
[11:07] <_andrea> uhm you could give a try to msttcorefont
[11:07] <_andrea> lol same as mine
[11:07] <_andrea> grx416G
[11:07] <_andrea> 17'' monitor
[11:07] <sector10> _andrea: vgn-fs660?w
[11:07] <sector10> _andrea: mine is with nvidia and widescreen
[11:07] <_andrea> uhm the same of my bro
[11:07] <_andrea> the little white one ?
[11:08] <_andrea> very mac look alike ?
[11:08] <sector10> msttcorefonts wont change the desktop or menus
[11:08] <sector10> yes
[11:08] <sector10> it looks like an ibook a little
[11:08] <_andrea> yep will install linux on it next week :-)
[11:08] <sector10> ipw2200 is a nightmare
[11:08] <_andrea> i tried the live and got some problems
[11:09] <sector10> works only on ubuntu because its eht0
[11:09] <sector10> eth0
[11:09] <_andrea> ipw2200 ? wifi ?
[11:09] <sector10> on other distros its second as eth1 and will not work
[11:09] <sector10> yes
[11:09] <sector10> it needs to be detected first
[11:09] <_andrea> weird....thi wifi is weird
[11:09] <_andrea> i tried suse on my vaio and didn't configure wifi
[11:09] <sector10> the vaio bios is buggy
[11:09] <_andrea> kubuntu did it
[11:09] <sector10> fuk suse
[11:10] <_andrea> ahahahah
[11:10] <sector10> i tried for 3 days
[11:10] <_andrea> it was my first distro :-)
[11:10] <sector10> me too
[11:10] <_andrea> 9.0
[11:10] <sector10> 6.1
[11:10] <_andrea> wow
[11:10] <sector10> so i know something
[11:10] <_andrea> i guess im much more newbie than you :-)
[11:10] <sector10> but no the wireless
[11:10] <_andrea> well I'll tell u
[11:10] <_andrea> i tried 3 diferent wifi card
[11:10] <sector10> its a charade of having to go back and forth in yast
[11:10] <_andrea> with suse
[11:11] <_andrea> and non worked
[11:11] <_andrea> none
[11:11] <_andrea> i guess its a problem of suse
[11:11] <sector10> i would not bother
[11:11] <sector10> it will work if you pay them maybe
[11:12] <_andrea> eheheh probably
[11:12] <sector10> i think its broke on purpose
[11:12] <_andrea> yep I would really be curious to see the pay versionb
[11:12] <sector10> all they have to do is patch the kernel
[11:12] <sector10> ipw2200 is not even part of opensuse
[11:12] <sector10> or is the firmware
[11:12] <_andrea> did u give a try to ndiswrapper
[11:13] <_andrea> ?
[11:13] <sector10> no took too long
[11:13] <asraniel> is there a config file for powernowd??
[11:13] <sector10> i need to work
[11:13] <_andrea> same problem here
[11:13] <_andrea> what do you do ?
[11:13] <_andrea> i do mainly maths with gretl and R
[11:13] <sector10> _andrea: there is a site for ubuntu laptop testers
[11:14] <_andrea> uhm also for kubuntu ?
[11:15] <_andrea> ....i really enjoy kde over gnome
[11:16] <sector10> _andrea: im a teacher
[11:16] <sector10> me too
[11:16] <_andrea> how do u send pvt msg ?? :-) can't remeber the command
[11:17] <sector10> right click on name
[11:17] <sector10> open dialog window
[11:17] <sector10> what fonts are your desktop font settings in kubuntu?
[11:18] <_andrea> i got verdana 12
[11:18] <_andrea> with RGB subpixel hinting
[11:18] <_andrea> looks very nice
[11:19] <N6REJ> _andrea: right click on their nick
[11:20] <troth> i have downloaded a tarball and extracteded it to my desktop, it created a folder as expected but im not sure what to do next pls help
[11:20] <logikal> ok guys
[11:20] <N6REJ> troth: look inside for a README or INSTALL follow those instructions
[11:20] <_andrea> troth...is there a configure file ?
[11:20] <logikal> How do i install ATI's accelerated video drivers?
[11:20] <_andrea> then you better read the install file
[11:21] <sector10> _andrea: do you see private message window?
[11:21] <_andrea> yes....desperatly trying to find an accept button :-D
[11:21] <sector10> crap i was on ubuntu irc just now sorry
[11:21] <troth> i dont see a readme, install, or config file
[11:22] <_andrea> troth....what is this ?
[11:22] <troth> easy ubuntu
[11:22] <asraniel> could it be that powernowd doesent change the cpu frequency because my cpu load never gets under 20% which is the default value for lowering cpu frequency
[11:22] <_andrea> then it's an executable script
[11:22] <elcuco> btw, who's the chick on the front page of kubuntu's web page?
[11:22] <_andrea> you'd better read the website help
[11:23] <_andrea> ahahahah shes nice imho ;-)
[11:23] <N6REJ> lol
[11:23] <_andrea> but i dont know who she is
[11:23] <_andrea> can you introduce me :-D
[11:23] <sector10> verdana is better
[11:23] <troth> says this Download Easy Ubuntu and extract it (double click on EasyUbuntu-2.1.tar.gz). Go into the EasyUbuntu directory and double click on the EasyUbuntu file. You're asked for your password.
[11:24] <troth> but when i try to open the file nothing happens
[11:24] <sector10> someone please help with the firefox error in kubuntu
[11:24] <_andrea> sector i've got no problems with firefox !!?!
[11:24] <sector10> i get an error that ubuntu-artwork cannot be found
[11:24] <elcuco> can anyone help confirm http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17287 ?
[11:24] <troth> the only easyubuntu file is a shell script, what do i do with that?
[11:25] <sector10> firefox works i just dont want to see the stupid error
[11:25] <_andrea> there should be a spacif message on ubuntu forums
[11:25] <_andrea> specific
[11:25] <_andrea> something like firefox instability adressed
[11:25] <sector10> maybe it does same thing in ubuntu ill check
[11:25] <troth> sector10 = go into prefereces and set a home page
[11:25] <sector10> ok
[11:25] <troth> happened tyo me
[11:25] <_andrea> ohhhh ok
[11:26] <_andrea> he cant find the local homepage graphics
[11:26] <troth> _andrea: correct
[11:26] <sector10> works
[11:26] <sector10> stupid bug
[11:26] <_andrea> eheheh we need lot of patience with those penguins...
[11:27] <_andrea> (ehm i know my english sounds terrible probably...im from italy)
[11:27] <troth> _andrea: im surprised that I actually just helped someone
[11:27] <_andrea> :-) it happens
[11:27] <_andrea> uhm how do u make those little pvt msg ?
[11:28] <_andrea> cant get the right command :-/
[11:28] <sector10> i just sent you a message andrea
[11:28] <troth> ok, so what do i do with a shell script file?
[11:28] <thehil>  how do I enable spell check in GNOME?
[11:28] <_andrea> uhm usually:
[11:28] <_andrea> a. check if it has the right permissions
[11:28] <sector10> go to my name and right click
[11:28] <_andrea> with ls -l from shell
[11:28] <_andrea> in the directory
[11:29] <troth> k
[11:29] <_andrea> if it doesn't contain an x
[11:29] <_andrea> chmod +x nameofthefile
[11:29] <troth> what directory should i usually extract things to, if any?
[11:29] <_andrea> what you like
[11:29] <troth> it extracts to the desktop by default
[11:29] <_andrea> i usually extract in my download folder
[11:29] <troth> ok i see
[11:30] <_andrea> just to clean the mess
[11:30] <_andrea> then point b
[11:30] <_andrea> you tipe
[11:30] <_andrea> sudo ./nameofthefile
[11:31] <_andrea> guys i just discovered no mplayer in the repositories :-//
[11:31] <_andrea> I'll have to spend tim eon it :-D
[11:32] <troth> _andrea: says this drwxr-xr-x
[11:32] <_andrea> ok it's executable
[11:32] <_andrea> then
[11:32] <_andrea> type
[11:32] <_andrea> sudo ./nameofit
[11:32] <troth> k
[11:33] <_andrea> is mplayer out of repos for license problems ?
[11:33] <asraniel> is there somewhere a config file for powernowd?
[11:33] <moj> has anyone else had problems getting wep to work in the kde wireless config?
[11:33] <_andrea> uhm asraniel don't really know it
[11:33] <troth> _andrea: sudo ./drwxr-xr-x or sudo ./EasyUbuntu ?
[11:33] <_andrea> nope everything fine with my dlink pcmcia
[11:34] <_andrea> the second one troth
[11:34] <moj> I have a dlink pcmcia too.
[11:34] <moj> everything works fine without encryption.
[11:34] <_andrea> then all you need to do
[11:34] <moj> when I use wep, then I can't connect.
[11:34] <_andrea> is put the essid name and wep password
[11:34] <_andrea> or at least it worked here
[11:35] <moj> I'll try again.
[11:35] <moj> wonder what I'm doing wrong then...
[11:35] <_andrea> did u check the settings ?
[11:35] <_andrea> like dhcp etc ?
[11:36] <_andrea> uhm just curious ....anybody from italy ?
[11:36] <moj> yes.
[11:36] <moj> dhcp works fine..
[11:36] <asraniel> pff, i cannot remove powernowd, because kubuntu-desktop has it as a dependecy
[11:36] <logikal> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[11:36] <moj> the only change I make is enable encryption..
[11:36] <logikal> I see no driver for breezy on there
[11:36] <logikal> what can i do?
[11:36] <_andrea> weird moj i've got dwl-650+
[11:36] <moj> then I add the key.
[11:36] <_andrea> and the essid name
[11:37] <moj> I have the same one (no plus)
[11:37] <troth> _andrea: gives this error http://pastebin.ca/26411
[11:37] <moj> yes. essid name was same.
[11:37] <_andrea> it didnt' work before i inserted the name of the spot i wanted to get connected to
[11:38] <_andrea> uhm....
[11:38] <moj> you mean the router?
[11:38] <_andrea> i think so,....did you give a name to your wifi network ?
[11:38] <_andrea> i named mine bartsimpson
[11:38] <moj> yes. I did.
[11:39] <moj> I put that in the essid name.
[11:39] <_andrea> yes
[11:39] <moj> works great.
[11:39] <moj> then ..
[11:39] <moj> when I check the encryption box..
[11:39] <moj> no dice,.
[11:39] <_andrea> uhm
[11:40] <_andrea> i've got problems like this with my pocketpc
[11:40] <moj> really?
[11:40] <_andrea> yes
[11:40] <_andrea> only without encryption my pocketpc would connect
[11:40] <_andrea> it didn't like wep
[11:40] <moj> same here.
[11:40] <moj> same exact thing.
[11:41] <_andrea> your transmitter is dlink ?
[11:41] <moj> should authentication be open or shared?
[11:41] <moj> yes./
[11:41] <_andrea> i think open
[11:41] <moj> di 524
[11:41] <moj> k
[11:41] <_andrea> but not really sure
[11:41] <moj> I'll try both.
[11:41] <_andrea> dwl-900+ here
[11:42] <_andrea> uhm....I read once that dlink stuff could have glitches on wep
[11:42] <_andrea> but i din't know it when i got it on a sale :-(
[11:42] <moj> ha. same here.
[11:42] <moj> you mean dlink routers, nics or both?
[11:43] <_andrea> both for the article
[11:43] <moj> ah.
[11:43] <_andrea> some models had problems
[11:43] <_andrea> but i only got probs with the pocketpc
[11:43] <moj> Well that's double trouble for me since I have both.
[11:43] <_andrea> ehehe same here
[11:43] <moj> I did upgrade the firmware on the router.
[11:43] <_andrea> but they are both 1 and 1/2 years old
[11:44] <moj> hopefully that got rid of the bugs.
[11:44] <_andrea> I'll change them after christmas
[11:44] <_andrea> i think i'll buy cysco
[11:44] <_andrea> cisco
[11:44] <_andrea> they "should" be better
[11:44] <_andrea> (and more expensive :-( )
[11:45] <moj> ha. well the home version is just linksys w/ a cisco name on it though.
[11:45] <_andrea> oh...really ?
[11:45] <moj> linksys is a good brand, though.
[11:45] <moj> yep.
[11:45] <moj> cisco bought them.
[11:45] <_andrea> ok
[11:46] <_andrea> they are all hungry those big guys
[11:46] <_andrea> :-)
[11:46] <moj> the expensive stuff (enterprise) is the real deal.
[11:46] <moj> yeah. It is sad.  :(
[11:46] <_andrea> i wonder if they would buy me a new house too :-D
[11:46] <moj> ha. they would probably rent it out.
[11:47] <_andrea> entreprise = super expensive.....
[11:47] <_andrea> eheheh
[11:47] <moj> absolutely.
[11:47] <_andrea> do you know of any easy soft to draw house plans like on cad ?
[11:47] <_andrea> I need to draw the new one....
[11:48] <_andrea> and couldnt find anything suitable like finson3d home architect for win
[11:48] <moj> try dia.
[11:49] <moj> think its dia.sf.net
[11:49] <moj> well.
[11:49] <moj> my bad..
[11:49] <_andrea> dia ill check it
[11:49] <moj> that's for viso type diagrams.
[11:49] <moj> sorry.
[11:49] <_andrea> if u can leave wep off
[11:49] <_andrea> here in italy for the moment it's pretty safe
[11:50] <_andrea> no hackers around in town
[11:50] <_andrea> :-)
[11:50] <moj> I can't for a long period of time -- a little scary.
[11:50] <moj> ha. that's cool.
[11:50] <_andrea> yes not many people able with computers
[11:50] <crimsun> should be using WPA at least
[11:50] <moj> for cad try searching for cad in freshmeat.net
[11:51] <_andrea> i think dia will do the trick
[11:51] <moj> I know. but I don;t think my router supports it.
[11:51] <_andrea> looking at it right now
[11:51] <moj> once I get wep going...I am going to put a wired router behind my wireless one..
[11:52] <moj> ..so my wired stuff is still about as secure as it was before.
[11:52] <_andrea> i had the same idea here
[11:52] <_andrea> but my provider is a cable provider and we are all in an internal network
[11:52] <moj> and maybe turn off wifi when I won't be using it for a long time.
[11:52] <moj> yeah. that should be all right.
[11:52] <_andrea> i turn it off every night ;-)
[11:52] <moj> me too.
[11:52] <_andrea> just unplug it
[11:53] <moj> that works.
[11:54] <_andrea> ehi
[11:54] <_andrea> i just discovered katapult
[11:54] <_andrea> nice trick :-D
[11:55] <moj> I've heard of that. Can't remember what it is though.
[11:55] <_andrea> it's a launcher a la apple style
[11:55] <_andrea> just press alt and spacebar together
[11:56] <_andrea> then write the forst letters of the name of the soft u want to launch
[11:56] <_andrea> it's super fast :D good thing
[11:57] <_andrea> uhm midnight here.....I think I'll go to bed.....
[11:57] <_andrea> goodnight all
[11:57] <unsurreal> lol
[11:57] <unsurreal> where u at?
[11:58] <_andrea> italy
[11:58] <unsurreal> send me some pasta
[11:58] <_andrea> ahahah in tar.gz or deb ?
[11:58] <unsurreal> bzip2
[11:58] <unsurreal> :)
[11:59] <_andrea> http://images.google.it/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ilnido.it/tagliatelle_ai_porcini.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.ilnido.it/menu_ristorante.htm&h=250&w=320&sz=15&tbnid=AmdSWNhUFEEJ:&tbnh=88&tbnw=113&hl=it&start=2&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtagliatelle%2Bai%2Bfunghi%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Dit%26lr%3D%26client%3Dfirefox%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:it-IT:unofficial%26sa%3DN
[11:59] <_andrea> ops
[12:00] <_andrea> http://www.ilnido.it/spaghetti_alle_vongole.JPG
[12:00] <_andrea> :-)
[12:00] <_andrea> ok goodnight all
[12:00] <_andrea> yawnnnn