[12:00] <zxc_> is Wine availible for AMD64?
[12:00] <dataw0lf|w> type 'mount'
[12:00] <garnertr> ok, did that got back a screen full of data
[12:00] <garnertr> /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[12:00] <garnertr> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[12:00] <garnertr> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[12:00] <garnertr> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[12:00] <garnertr> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[12:00] <hybrid_goth> dataw0lf|w: wow are you agreein with me?
[12:00] <garnertr> none on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=5M,mode=0755)
[12:00] <garnertr> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[12:01] <dataw0lf|w> garnertr: do a less /etc/fstab
[12:01] <garnertr> my bad... wait one...
[12:01] <garnertr> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[12:01] <garnertr> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[12:01] <garnertr> /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[12:01] <garnertr> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 rw,user,noauto  0       0
[12:02] <garnertr> I have a DVD R/RW drive
[12:03] <dataw0lf|w> garnertr: no cd?
[12:03] <dataw0lf|w> just that one media drive?
[12:03] <dataw0lf|w> hello
[12:03] <garnertr> its dual - DVD R/RW and CD ROM rewritable
[12:03] <dataw0lf|w> right, but only one drive.
[12:03] <dataw0lf|w> correct?
[12:03] <garnertr> or I should say its both only one drive... sorry
[12:03] <dataw0lf|w> ok, do a mount /dev/hdc
[12:04] <garnertr> mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
[12:04] <garnertr> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,
[12:04] <garnertr>        missing codepage or other error
[12:04] <garnertr>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[12:04] <garnertr>        dmesg | tail  or so
[12:05] <dataw0lf|w> do what it says.  dmesg | tail -5
[12:05] <jaask> sry for the newbie Q: when installing with virtual disks, I dont need any separate partition for the install..?
[12:05] <garnertr> hdc: status error: status=0x00 { }
[12:05] <garnertr> hdc: status error: error=0x00
[12:05] <garnertr> hdc: status error: status=0x00 { }
[12:05] <garnertr> hdc: status error: error=0x00
[12:05] <garnertr> hdc: ATAPI reset complete
[12:06] <thread> SPAM SPAM SCROLLScROLL
[12:06] <thread> garnertr: check yoselv
[12:06] <garnertr> say again?
[12:06] <melodie> hello! do someone know if any apt authentication exists for Universe and Multiverse repositories, plse ?
[12:06] <garnertr> ohhh I see, I'm flooding the room... my bust... been a long time since i've been in a chat setting... sorry
[12:07] <sjohnson> hey dudes, i changed from reiserfs to ext3, but i STILL can't get uid to work
[12:07] <IIIEars> It is SPAM - but, it is teaching
[12:07] <sjohnson> or some way of only allowing sjohnson to mount this partition
[12:07] <sjohnson> how come something so easy is so hard?!
[12:07] <dataw0lf|w> garnertr: Vaio laptop?
[12:07] <melodie> do apt authentication exists for Universe and Multiverse ? :)
[12:07] <garnertr> negative, I have an Alienware  Area 51m Sentia, CPU 1700-MHZ P4 laptop
[12:08] <dataw0lf|w> garnertr: what media do you have in that drive right now?
[12:08] <garnertr> at this moment I have a muic cd in the drive
[12:08] <garnertr> not burned, comercial
[12:08] <sjohnson> EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "uid=1000" or missing value
[12:08] <sjohnson> EXT3-fs: Unrecognized mount option "owner=sjohnson" or missing value
[12:09] <corvix> hey!
[12:09] <dataw0lf|w> try exchanging it with something else real quick for me, for the helluva it.
[12:09] <dataw0lf|w> then run a mount /media/cdrom0
[12:09] <melodie> garnertr: just clean your drive :)
[12:09] <trandom> anyone know how i go about accessing an NTFS partition from ubuntu??
[12:09] <melodie> you can use a cleaning CD
[12:09] <GeInK> ciao
[12:09] <corvix> @ntfs
[12:09] <corvix> my fstab line:
[12:09] <GeInK> c un canale italia?
[12:09] <goldfish> trandom: www.ubuntuguide.org
[12:10] <trandom> goldfish: cheers, is there not a quick command??
[12:10] <melodie> GeInK: inglese  ;)
[12:10] <IIIEars> I wonder if there isn't an app to do IRC text translation.
[12:10] <goldfish> trandom: yep, its on there :)
[12:10] <GeInK> there is a ubuntu channel for italy?
[12:10] <goldfish> IIIEars: there is
[12:10] <dataw0lf|w> IIIIEars: that would be quite hard.
[12:10] <corvix> actually i lost my fsta ntfs line at the moment ;-)
[12:10] <trandom> goldfish: cheers for that m8y :P
[12:10] <Fator_Dee> GeInK: try #ubuntu-it
[12:10] <GeInK> thx
[12:11] <goldfish> IIIEars: there are some scripts for it
[12:11] <melodie> I repeat, incase....
[12:11] <goldfish> for certain languages
[12:11] <melodie> do apt authentication exists for Universe and Multiverse ? :)
[12:11] <corvix> ti forgot i was installing a new system ... ;-) managed to to a dd if=/dev/null /dev/... on the wrong disk ;-)
[12:11] <IIIEars> goldfish - do you remember what it was called?
[12:11] <goldfish> IIIEars: well, there are some on irrsi.org
[12:11] <goldfish> for irssi
[12:11] <goldfish> IIIEars: google knows :)
[12:11] <Fator_Dee> corvix: ouch :-\
[12:11] <corvix> indeed ...
[12:11] <IIIEars> goldfish - Great! - brb
[12:11] <melodie> hum  :)
[12:12] <corvix> actually i was preparing an old 20gig for a friend ... doing dd /dev/null ... but accidentially got wrong disk ... after a sek it was to late
[12:12] <garnertr> I swapped the music cd for a movie dvd, the icon on the desktop changed to DVD-ROM DISC.  Totem and it crapped out; I did zine said it couldn't find media; and VLC did nothing; going to try to remount again
[12:12] <dataw0lf|w> mount /media/cdrom0 garnertr
[12:13] <garnertr> came back w/ the same previous block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only and then the next line was wrong fs type, bad option, etc..
[12:13] <dataw0lf|w> **Newbie Bash Tip of the Day: Use Tab Completion!**
[12:13] <Fator_Dee> corvix: hope you learned to be more carefull next time :-/
[12:14] <dataw0lf|w> Ugh, stupid script.
[12:14] <jaask> sry for the newbie Q: when installing with virtual disks, I dont need any separate partition for the install..?
[12:14] <garnertr> I know the drive works, b/c it worked fine under windows..for both music and video
[12:14] <dataw0lf|w> garnertr: well, if you're on in 30 minutes, I'll help you a bit more, I need to leave work now, though.
[12:14] <garnertr> I'll be lingering, thanks for your assistance!
[12:14] <GhostFreeman> why are the preview images in the Themes menu replaced with question marks
[12:15] <GhostFreeman> and how do I go about fixing this?
[12:15] <tga> what's the debian way of building a kernel module like qce-source?
[12:15] <melodie> garnertr: have you ever cleaned the lens of your drive ? if not, you can do it.
[12:15] <_nate> I have a P4 with HT, shouldn't I be using the 686-smp core, not 386?
[12:16] <rupert_> I'd be really grateful if someone could give me a hand: I broke gnome last night somehow by upgrading one of the gnome-* packages. My .xsession-errors file just says 'Failed to execute message bus daemon: No such file or directory". Anyone know what I've done?
[12:16] <keffo> hm, i need to cut a .AVI file into 2 parts.. how to do this?
[12:16] <rupert_> (So I can't log in unless under failsafe)
[12:16] <rupert_> keffo, mplayer will do it.
[12:17] <crimsun> rupert_: which ubuntu are you running?
[12:17] <keffo> ok, for real?
[12:17] <garnertr> Melodie, not since I purchased the computer, its less than a year old... I guess I could clean it, but I don't see the point since it worked fine under Windows, before I wiped it and installed Linux... :)
[12:18] <keffo> well, cant use mplayer
[12:18] <keffo> since it sux..
[12:18] <rupert_> crimsun, Hoary mainly, but I changed the repository -> breezy, but I only upgrade a couple of packages at a time - capped connection - and I assumed that it wouldn't break everything...
[12:18] <crimsun> rupert_: everything in Breezy is in flux currently
[12:18] <melodie> garnertr: cause Spring has come, with pollen and dust in the aire
[12:18] <crimsun> rupert_: (see the topic)
[12:18] <melodie> air
[12:18] <rupert_> crimsun, Oh great. Oops.
[12:18] <melodie> and I tell you with my unfortunate experience
[12:19] <crimsun> rupert_: don't worry, it's about to get a -lot- more hairy next week :)
[12:19] <melodie> that was up to
[12:19] <melodie> ....
[12:19] <melodie> unsuccessful installation
[12:19] <hybrid_goth> crimsun: why?
[12:19] <rupert_> crimsun, If I just change the repository again and then reget the lists, can I just downgrade the packages again?
[12:19] <melodie> as I don't have win anymore
[12:19] <hybrid_goth> rupert_: no
[12:19] <melodie> I had to install wine and winesetuptk
[12:19] <garnertr> melodie, ahh well I am new to Arlington, Wa, and I've been told the area has a high dust ratio, but I'll run over to the Nex and pick up a clearner this weekend... just find it odd that it worked under one OS and not another OS... but it probably could use a spring cleaning...
[12:20] <rupert_> crimsun, So what do I have to do...?
[12:20] <Fator_Dee> I've never ever cleaned my drives lenses and they all have worked always without problems :-o
[12:20] <crimsun> hybrid_goth: g++ 4.0 transition :)
[12:20] <hybrid_goth> rupert_: you have to remove packages or reinstall to downgrade
[12:20] <melodie> if you have windows you can run it under
[12:20] <hybrid_goth> crimsun: ah
[12:20] <melodie> if not
[12:20] <melodie> install wine
[12:20] <melodie> and the depends
[12:21] <melodie> this cleaning can also be done manually
[12:21] <melodie> but
[12:21] <crimsun> rupert_: you'll have to pin hoary repo at the highest possible priority
[12:21] <melodie> it is very delicate
[12:21] <crimsun> rupert_: man apt_preferences
[12:21] <melodie> and personnally
[12:21] <melodie> I didn't dare do it
[12:21] <rupert_> crimsun, Thanks. Any idea roughly what packages I'm going to need to change? (Does the dbus error suggest which packages are not working?)
[12:22] <raydogg``> where does one put a global script ? as you would put a global bin in /usr/bin
[12:22] <rupert_> raydogg``, /usr/bin will work. Or probably /usr/local/bin, as you presumably wrote it.
[12:22] <crimsun> rupert_: well, considering dbus 0.33 was uploaded a couple days ago, breaking api and abi and thus forcing the removing of all packages depending on it, ...
[12:23] <Undead_Soul> crimsun, do you mine if I bother you for a second in a PM?
[12:23] <rupert_> crimsun, Looks like I asked the right person! Thanks - I'll try that now.
[12:23] <crimsun> Undead_Soul: in here unless containing private info, please
[12:24] <Undead_Soul> Well, it's about some adverting for a radiostation, I'd like to ask an admin if I can advert?
[12:25] <crimsun> Undead_Soul: advertisements are frowned upon strongly
[12:25] <Undead_Soul> On the whole server?
[12:25] <crimsun> Undead_Soul: that would be a network policy, and you'd need to ask in #freenode
[12:25] <keffo> what program do I use to cut a .avi-file into 2?
[12:25] <Undead_Soul> Ok, thank you very much crimsun
[12:26] <crimsun> keffo: check the avifile-utils and mjpegtools
[12:26] <factorx> i'm just compiling a new kernel via make-kpkg but it seems it uses an obsolete .config instead of my recently created one. why?
[12:27] <keffo> crimsun, huh?
[12:27] <keffo> found it
[12:27] <ggross> hi everybody ... i wiil bought a Nokia 6230i, is it compatible to Ubuntu ? does Blutooth work correctly ?
[12:27] <crimsun> keffo: those are the names of two packages you'll want to look at. I don't know the list of binaries offhand.
[12:29] <keffo> hm
[12:29] <keffo> ok
[12:29] <keffo> problem
[12:29] <keffo> after i installed, there is nothing to execute really
[12:30] <ifr> Here's a weird one: how can I list files within a directory which are owned by a specific user (assuming files in the directory are owned by more than one user?)
[12:30] <keffo> crimsun - or what do you mean?
[12:31] <crimsun> keffo: each of those packages contains tools
[12:31] <ggross> nothing about nokia ?
[12:31] <crimsun> keffo: you'll have to look at the contents of those packages
[12:31] <keffo> crimsun, then im blind and cant find tools to use ;P
[12:31] <goldfish> hehe
[12:31] <crimsun> keffo: dpkg -L $package
[12:32] <goldfish> wonder if anyone has tried running Nokia Pc Suite in wine .....
[12:32] <ggross> lol
[12:32] <ggross> it might exist another prog ... isn't it ?
[12:32] <goldfish> no idea
[12:33] <goldfish> would be nice to know if a linux program like that existed
[12:33] <keffo> hm, ok crimsun now im about to find out wich one ;P
[12:33] <ggross> i've heard about gnokii, mygnokii and others ... but cant try now
[12:35] <a_peck> goldfish, good question
[12:35] <a_peck> goldfish, excellent
[12:35] <a_peck> lol
[12:35] <goldfish> thanks :)
[12:35] <a_peck> let's see now
[12:35] <a_peck> :p
[12:35] <goldfish> i might try it tomorrow
[12:35] <ggross> wich nokia do you have ?
[12:35] <Thirsteh> goldfish, have you tried googling 'Nokia PC suite Linux' ?
[12:35] <trandom> btw, anyone know why ubuntu takes ages to load the network configuration on start up??
[12:35] <ifr> I accidentally did: ln -s /home/samba/public /public when I meant ln -s /public /home/samba/public now ls -l /public shows everything withint the /public directory AND  public -> /home/samba/public can anyone help me remove that?
[12:36] <goldfish> Thirsteh: Not yet i'm afraid :/
[12:36] <a_peck> will you be online? i'm trying to learn php so i've not looked into the matter
[12:36] <Thirsteh> trandom, is your network IP determined by DHCP?
[12:36] <Thirsteh> goldfish, try it ;)
[12:36] <mjr> trandom, shouldn't; maybe your dhcp server is slow to respond (I assume it responds if your network works)
[12:36] <goldfish> Thirsteh: lol thanks :)
[12:36] <trandom> thirsteh, yep - wee router deals with that
[12:36] <goldfish> ggross: google Nokia PC suite Linux
[12:36] <goldfish> :)
[12:37] <trandom> mjr, lol my windows machines seem fine
[12:37] <mjr> *shrug*
[12:37] <Thirsteh> trandom, ah okay, there are some ethernet adaptors that take a while to be set to an IP address for some reason... If you've experienced (if you've run Windows) that your network wouldn't start up after until 2 minutes after you started Windows, it's not a problem with Ubuntu, but with your router, NIC, or ISP.
[12:37] <xlyz> hi. how can I set  a command to be executed every time the pc starts?
[12:37] <Thirsteh> trandom, you might not notice it in Windows because it does not initialize network before it boots the graphical interface
[12:37] <hybrid_goth> how do i use samba to get mp3s off a xp box on my network
[12:37] <hybrid_goth> ?
[12:38] <keffo> how do i search in manpages?
[12:38] <goldfish> xlyz: using gnome?
[12:38] <hybrid_goth> man -k
[12:38] <Fackamato> What's this beagle software evreyone keep talking about?
[12:38] <ggross> goldfish : dont found a lot ... oh ! maybe google (world ?)
[12:38] <goldfish> :)
[12:38] <Thirsteh> xlyz, I'm not sure if this works in Gentoo, but you can append the command to the bottom of /etc/rc.d/rc.local
[12:38] <xlyz> goldfish: configuration file
[12:38] <trandom> thirsteh, fair enough - i won't bother messing about with it then - not worth the hassel for an extra minute on start up
[12:38] <goldfish> ok
[12:39] <Thirsteh> xlyz, that's in some OS', I have yet to install Ubuntu so I can't verify if that is possible in it. Otherwise, you could try looking into Crontab, it will allow you to run processes either continously or at boot-time, and with webmin (if you install that), it's very easy to configure
[12:39] <ggross> goldfish : i only found windows user forums, and nokia pc suite links
[12:40] <keffo> how do i search in A man page?
[12:40] <xlyz> Thirsteh: in gentoo does not works that way ;) you need /etc/conf.d/local.start
[12:40] <Thirsteh> xlyz, well, alright, you already knew :P
[12:41] <Thirsteh> xlyz, use that file, or crontab, is my answer :)
[12:41] <xlyz> Thirsteh:  /etc/rc.d is not there
[12:43] <Thirsteh> xlyz, you just said the equivelant for Debian systems is /etc/conf.d/local.start, so use that :)
[12:43] <keffo> how do i search in A man page?
[12:43] <xlyz> no, that's for gentoo
[12:43] <xlyz> don't know what for Debian
[12:44] <rupertsw> crimsun, Thankyou very much for the help. Everything's working again now.
[12:44] <Thirsteh> xlyz, ah okay, not reading all of the sentences that are written at the moment.  It probably means that X hasn't got a magic cookie for root.
[12:48] <xfSx> no i can only run as root
[12:48] <rupertsw> xfSx, I think sudo sorts that out though?
[12:48] <goldfish> sjohnson: yes
[12:48] <xfSx> mmk
[12:48] <Thirsteh> I haven't installed Ubuntu yet, so here's a noob question: Does the Ubuntu standard kernel come with iptables support?
[12:48] <goldfish> sjohnson: watching dvd's was sluggish until i did that
[12:49] <goldfish> sjohnson: no it's runs smooth
[12:49] <Thirsteh> not support, is it enabled?
[12:49] <goldfish> *now
[12:49] <sjohnson> goldfish: /dev/hda:
[12:49] <sjohnson>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[12:49] <sjohnson>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Operation not permitted
[12:49] <sjohnson>  using_dma    =  0 (off)
[12:49] <sjohnson> it won't work for me, and i'm doing it as sudo
[12:49] <threat> hi
[12:49] <goldfish> hmmm...
[12:49] <goldfish> sjohnson: no idea i'm afraid :/
[12:49] <sjohnson> .... :(
[12:49] <threat> what program auto-mounts USB drives and what not under Ubuntu?
[12:49] <sjohnson> thanks tho
[12:49] <sjohnson> i have THE worst luck in linux ever
[12:49] <rupertsw> sjohnson, Is this a home-grown kernel or a hoary one?
[12:50] <sjohnson> hoary
[12:50] <Thirsteh> dockane, gethostbyname() is a function used in many C applications that will detect the hostmask of an IP address, e.g. <IP_ADDRESS> resolves to pwnhx.mn.rr.com
[12:50] <sjohnson> standard hoary install
[12:50] <threat> sjohnson, how so? I am using Linux full on now, I havnt needed to switch to my windows box at all for a month or so
[12:50] <sjohnson> oh man... i dunno, some kind of curse
[12:50] <sjohnson> i'm an experienced BSD user
[12:50] <sjohnson> and shit just never works right for me, example: the above
[12:50] <keffo> anyone who ever splited a AVI file into 2 in Linux?
[12:50] <threat> sjohnson, heh the curse of the Daemon :)
[12:51] <sjohnson> while something works for EVERYONE else, for some reason, it won't work for me
[12:51] <threat> keffo, no
[12:51] <threat> keffo, when you say avi you mean DIVX/XVID rigyht?
[12:51] <keffo> yes, true
[12:51] <Thirsteh> sjohnson, some hardware, but not much, will not work with alot of Linux distro's cause alot of Linux distro's use the same drivers, and if they're bugged, you're screwed.
[12:51] <goldfish> you could try the split command keffo
[12:51] <dockane> Thirsteh, i ran etherconf and that was _definetly stupid : sudo: unable to lookup cray.example.com.example.com via gethostbyname()
[12:51] <goldfish> dunno if it will work
[12:51] <hybrid_goth> how do i use samba to get mp3s off a xp box on my network?
[12:51] <Thirsteh> threat, AVI is the standard video format along with MPG, AVI was invented by Microsoft though
[12:51] <xfSx> rupertsw, yeah sudo seemed to do the trick thanks
[12:51] <goldfish> hybrid_goth: ubuntuguide.org has a samba guide
[12:52] <dockane> any chance to recover ?
[12:52] <hybrid_goth> ok ty
[12:52] <rupertsw> xfSx, No problem
[12:52] <Thirsteh> hybrid_goth, edit /etc/samba/smb.conf - scroll to the bottom and make a share
[12:52] <threat> Thirsteh, I know
[12:52] <sjohnson> doesnt work for either of my drives
[12:52] <Thirsteh> dockane, lol :O
[12:52] <Thirsteh> dockane, change it back?
[12:52] <ShadowRage> how do I add fonts?
[12:52] <dockane> Thirsteh, any idea how ?
[12:52] <threat> Thirsteh, although when people now talk about AVI's they are normally refering to the spawn of it :) DIVX or XVID etc..
[12:52] <Thirsteh> dockane, no, sorry, preparing to install Ubuntu for the first time at the moment :\
[12:52] <dockane> Thirsteh, ah ok
[12:53] <threat> Thirsteh, its not that difficult! :) its quiet easy actually, well compared to Debian, slackware or FreeBSD
[12:53] <Thirsteh> threat, AVI had no spawn other than MPG, DivX/XviD are codecs used in conjunction with AVI/MPG to compress/improve the size/quality of the video file :)
[12:53] <threat> Xandros is easier though
[12:53] <dockane> Thirsteh, i cant get any dns lookups. could you please take a look for me what etherconf does and paste it into a query for me ?
[12:53] <Thirsteh> threat, I'll live through it ;) I don't expect it to be harder than a Gentoo stage 1 install, so I'll be al right
[12:53] <ShadowRage> how do I add fonts?
[12:53] <threat> Thirsteh,  :)
[12:54] <ShadowRage> ttf fonts
[12:54] <threat> ShadowRage, easy
[12:54] <threat> ShadowRage, add it to .fonts or /usr/share/fonts/truetype/
[12:54] <Thirsteh> dockane, I can't run it, I'm stuck on a Windoze machine at the moment, burning the Ubuntu Hairy installation CD ;)
[12:54] <Thirsteh> Sorry I meant hoary :D
[12:54] <goldfish> lol hairy
[12:54] <threat> lol
[12:54] <ShadowRage> threat: do you have to restart X?
[12:54] <rupertsw> keffo, Seriously, just looking at the mplayer man page, something like mplayer -frames <some_num> <your_file> should display it and then if you use mencoder, you can write that to a file.
[12:55] <garnertr> hairy, he said hairy.... ha ha ha
[12:55] <tahorg> ShadowRage: nautilus file -> open location
[12:55] <tahorg> ShadowRage: fonts://
[12:55] <dockane> anybody inhere who would do me a favour ? :)
[12:55] <ShadowRage> tahorg: :D
[12:55] <ShadowRage> nice
[12:55] <threat> note to Ubuntu developers. name the release after the next release hairy
[12:55] <tahorg> drag'n'drop your file here
[12:55] <threat> ShadowRage, no
[12:55] <melodie> good night  :)
[12:55] <stuNNed> Ubuntu Hoary the Hairy HedgeHog? :D
[12:55] <zxc> how do you change the text underneath icons in ubuntu?
[12:55] <Thirsteh> threat, ;)
[12:56] <garnertr> doesn't right-click properties do it?
[12:56] <threat> so any way, what program auto-mounts under Ubuntu ?
[12:56] <threat> garnertr, assuming he has a mouse with a right clickers :S
[12:56] <rupertsw> thread, pmount/pumount does the actual mounting and I think gnome tells it to.
[12:57] <garnertr> ahhh right-you-are!
[12:57] <rupertsw> (sorry: threat!)
[12:57] <threat> rupertsw, ok, well its being gay, it mounts sometimes and doesnt other times, I guess I need to chuck it in the Fstab aye
[12:57] <Thirsteh> Can anyone here please type iptables in a console, see if it gives an error or not, I need to know if the Ubuntu kernel has iptables supports activated
[12:58] <threat> Thirsteh, it supports it
[12:58] <rupertsw> threat, Try pmount /dev/file/thing in a xterm. It might well work.
[12:58] <Thirsteh> It supports it, but is it activated?
[12:58] <zxc> like how do you change the font colour, text style underneath the icons on the desktop
[12:58] <threat> Thirsteh, yes
[12:58] <threat> Thirsteh, unless your refering to IP forwarding, which is handled in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:58] <threat> oops
[12:58] <ali4728> Help! How can I cpecify the document root in apace2.conf ? thanks
[12:58] <threat> /etc/network/options :)
[12:58] <Thirsteh> I wouldn't want to do a kernel recompile, I'm running straight through a Switch->DSL, no firewall or port blocking whatsoever, so I'll need iptables to avoid being "hacked" by script kiddies ;)
[12:59] <Thirsteh> threat, nope, I just need to run Shorewall or something similar
[12:59] <threat> Thirsteh, iptables -I INPUT -j DROP,  that will protect you from all of the script kiddies :)
[12:59] <rupertsw> Thirsteh, Try running some firewall program and see if it works. It probably will.
[12:59] <dockane> puh got it :)
[12:59] <Thirsteh> It's bad when you pay extra for your ISP to change your IP every 15 minutes and people STILL try to "h4x0r" my "b0x0r" :\
[12:59] <threat> Thirsteh, it works, I have done it :)
[12:59] <jdims> who did you piss off.
[01:00] <Thirsteh> threat, I'm on Windoze ;)
[01:00] <goldfish> emmm
[01:00] <threat> Thirsteh, hehe, setup snort :)
[01:00] <threat> Thirsteh, aawwww
[01:00] <rupertsw> Thirsteh, And pray.
[01:00] <Thirsteh> I ran an MMO and accidentally revealed my identity, not cool :\
[01:00] <goldfish> I can't even get a static ip with my isp !
[01:00] <jdims> packetbl is pretty cool too.
[01:00] <threat> Thirsteh, quickly reboot and install linux :P
[01:00] <threat> Thirsteh, MMO ?
[01:00] <Thirsteh> threat, 15 mins left and Ubuntu is going onto my drive :)
[01:00] <threat> w00t
[01:00] <ali4728> Help! How can I cpecify the document root in apace2.conf ? thanks
[01:00] <teleyinex> hey
[01:00] <Thirsteh> Massive Multiplayer Online Game, forgot the G
[01:00] <threat> Thirsteh, the first command you will type is iptables -I INPUT -j DROP :)
[01:00] <teleyinex> someone has problems with openoffice
[01:00] <Thirsteh> Or, as some people call it, a MUD
[01:01] <jdims> lol
[01:01] <threat> ali4728, you read the file and change the relitive directive
[01:01] <Thirsteh> threat, that'll drop all inbound connections?
[01:01] <johan> someone how know a IRC chanel for web design under linux or using Bluefish?:)
[01:01] <threat> oh
[01:01] <jdims> lesson learned eh Thirsteh
[01:01] <threat> Thirsteh, thats right :)
[01:01] <teleyinex> cause the openoffice from hoary, suddenly tries to close itself, i have to cancel this some times
[01:01] <Thirsteh> jdims, ye :\
[01:01] <teleyinex> its that a bug?
[01:01] <Thirsteh> threat, goodie
[01:01] <threat> Thirsteh, its case sensitive remember :)
[01:01] <jdims> get a ipfw for windows
[01:01] <Thirsteh> threat, I'm used to Linux >.<
[01:02] <teleyinex> good night!
[01:02] <rupertsw> ali4728, Mine starts with 'ServerRoot "/var/www/htdocs"' And works.
great help thanks
[01:02] <threat> Thirsteh, :)
[01:02] <threat> ali4728, my plesure
[01:02] <threat> ali4728, anything else I can help you with ?
[01:02] <jdims> http://www.its.ipfw.edu/howto/network/win2k-winxp.html
[01:02] <Thirsteh> threat, been running a Gentoo/Mandrake (or Mandriva) combo for 5 years, time to try something good for a change :P
[01:02] <threat> nice
[01:02] <threat> :)
[01:03] <threat> Thirsteh, well welcome to the world of Debian :)
[01:03] <Thirsteh> When I heard there was a cool Debian distro I was like "MUSSTTT GETTT#)(/"
[01:03] <threat> Thirsteh, enjoy your stay
[01:03] <Thirsteh> Haha, thanks
[01:03] <rupertsw> Good night, everyone
[01:03] <sjohnson> anyone have any problems enabling DMA for dvd / cdrom drives?
[01:03] <Thirsteh> At least we won't have to worry about bankruptcy like Mandrake
[01:03] <m0rl3> Hello all
[01:03] <jdims> ipfw will stop those scriptkiddies cold.
[01:03] <goldfish> hi m0rl3
[01:04] <threat> sjohnson, hehe dont :)  most DVD/CDROMs have crappy implementations or no support at all
[01:04] <threat> jdims, *smacK* no! iptables!
[01:04] <mrhodes> hey i just messed up my gnome by running a command to 'enable the nvidia driver' that was given to me by syntaptik.. any idea how to exec gnome so i can try fix the prob?
[01:04] <jdims> hes using windows!
[01:04] <ryman> can someone help me to install JDK ?
[01:04] <jdims> is there an iptables port to windows?
[01:04] <threat> mrhodes, soundsl ike you fscked up your X
[01:04] <Thirsteh> jdims, doubt it
[01:05] <jdims> exactly my point.
[01:05] <m0rl3> What do you think about this ubuntu report? They said that ubuntu will be renamed? -> http://www.livejournal.com/community/tws_support/347374.html
[01:05] <sjohnson> threat: *crys*
[01:05] <sjohnson> :)
[01:05] <threat> jdims, no, iptables is a frontend to the ipfilter code in the kernel
[01:05] <jdims> but threat ipfw has a port to windows
[01:05] <GeInK> hello
[01:05] <jdims> it works very similirly to ipfilter
[01:05] <mrhodes> threat yeah X is crazy, how can i try and start it again from command line to check output?
[01:05] <threat> jdims, ipfw mustn't be a frontend then
[01:05] <GeInK> where i can fina a desktop themes for gnome?
[01:06] <threat> mrhodes, startx
[01:06] <jdims> no they front end is called something else
[01:06] <jdims> sf.net
[01:06] <VVeIrD> gnome-arts
[01:06] <threat> mrhodes, you may need to reedit your xorg config file  located in  /etc/X11/xorg.conf I think
[01:06] <GeInK> link?
[01:06] <sjohnson> threat: : i have to figure something out... my computer bogs RIGHT DOWN when i even copy a file
[01:06] <threat> mrhodes, there you will need to make sure nv has been changed to nvidia :)
[01:06] <mrhodes> nvidia kernel module missing!
[01:06] <m0rl3> Why is the apt-get removed? -> http://www.livejournal.com/community/tws_support/347374.html
[01:06] <m0rl3> Can someone told me that?
[01:06] <threat> mrhodes, install it then :)
[01:06] <threat> well I am off
[01:06] <mrhodes> heh
[01:07] <jdims> l8r
[01:07] <metalsand> What. The. Fuck.
[01:07] <metalsand> Ban!
[01:07] <Thirsteh> mrhodes, it's on the non-free repository afaik
[01:08] <Thirsteh> m0rl3, one sick individual
[01:08] <sjohnson> m0rl3: whats your first language?
[01:08] <metalsand> [ 00:07:26 ]    Parts : m0rl3 [<EMAIL_ADDRESS>]
[01:09] <goldfish> omg
[01:09] <mrhodes> is it linux-686 restricted modules? that comes up when i apt-cache search nvidia
[01:09] <goldfish> LOL
[01:09] <keffo> AARHXG goddamnit from hell, where teh HELL can i find "avisplit"?
[01:09] <keffo> it should do it
[01:09] <mrhodes> it says the binary driver, nvidia-glx, is alreay installed
[01:09] <keffo> a fine app
[01:09] <keffo> im currently reading manpages, but i cant find the fuding program
[01:10] <keffo> found it
[01:10] <Thirsteh> mrhodes, check out the Ubuntu nvidia guy, you have to download two modules
[01:10] <Thirsteh> guy=guide
[01:11] <mrhodes> thirste: i only got lynx to browse
[01:11] <Thirsteh> mrhodes, hold on a sec then
[01:11] <trondd> Hi! Got a simple question: What is the correct way to select which services are started for a given runlevel? (I know gentoo, so I find deb/ubuntu a bit confusing)
[01:11] <mrhodes> cheers matey
[01:12] <Thirsteh> mrhodes, query?
[01:13] <Thirsteh> mrhodes, can I query you (priv msg) with the instructions?
[01:13] <manu> hello
[01:13] <jabular> Anyone experienced the install freezing at 25% - Configuring apt ?
[01:14] <onekill> ok when you want to change preferences in fire fox it comes up with an error I think it is requireing me to be root is there a way to change preferences without logging off and logging back in ast root?
[01:15] <Thirsteh> onekill, you don't have to do that, just sudo run Firefox and configure it there
[01:15] <manu> I'm helping a friend installing ubuntu remotely, and I would like to install the kernel headers matching his curent kernel (2.6.10-5-386), but I haven't found this in any repositories either restricted or universe, is there a meta mackage doing this ?
[01:15] <Thirsteh> onekill, "sudo firefox", or "sudo mozilla-firefox"
[01:15] <onekill> thank you i will try that
[01:16] <trondd> I have to answer my self: rcconf :)
[01:16] <mrhodes> sure you can thisteh
[01:16] <mrhodes> sorry i had to grab a drink
[01:17] <onekill> thank you Thirsteh it worked
[01:17] <calamari> manu: I'm pretty sure there are only kernel source packages that match the binary packages in the repository
[01:17] <garnertr> yawn
[01:17] <Thirsteh> onekill, np :)
[01:17] <Thirsteh> mrhodes, alright
[01:18] <mrhodes> jabular you got that freeze problem sorted?
[01:18] <mrhodes> i had the same
[01:18] <A-z-i-z> hello. is there a package for kplayer ?
[01:19] <manu> calamari, I have found kernel sources only for the 2.6.8 or the 2.6.9 ...
[01:20] <calamari> manu: is the binary kernel something he had before, or is it an ubuntu kernel?
[01:20] <onekill> ok can i upgrade firefox or do i dl the new version and install it?
[01:21] <onekill> i guess my question is "is there a command to do say firefox -upgrade?"
[01:21] <calamari> A-z-i-z: not that I can tell, but if you'd like to search for yourself, load Synaptic and do a search.  Very cool program
[01:21] <Burgundavia> onekill, the hoary version has the security stuff backported
[01:21] <Thirsteh> mrhodes, done.
[01:21] <manu> calamari, it's the default install kernel
[01:21] <onekill> ok
[01:22] <calamari> manu: ah.. well I dunno then.  running Warty here and I got my kernel sources from the repository
[01:22] <mrhodes> cheers, heh i'm new to irssi, dunno how to msg or view my privmsgs!
[01:22] <A-z-i-z> calamari: thanks
[01:22] <Thirsteh> mrhodes, and I can't remember :(
[01:22] <arch_b1sh0p> i am on an AMD64 and i tried running the nvidia installer from (nvidia) (after removing all the nvidia packages apt-get remove).
[01:22] <mrhodes> there's numbers on the right that say Act: 1,3,4,5
[01:22] <mrhodes> heh
[01:22] <Thirsteh> mrhodes, try using ALT-<number> to tab through the pages, I think that's the way
[01:23] <Thirsteh> It might be ctrl, but I think it's alt
[01:23] <goldfish> alt
[01:23] <goldfish> or esc
[01:23] <Thirsteh> nod
[01:23] <calamari> A-z-i-z: I like the description search.. can find all sorts of things that way :)
[01:23] <arch_b1sh0p> it expected  /emul/ia32-linux/usr/lib/libGL.so round /usr/X11r6/lib32/libGL.so.1
[01:23] <arch_b1sh0p> anyone have this problem?
[01:24] <jabular> mrhodes: I managed to work around it, but wondered how common it is...
[01:24] <mrhodes> yeah
[01:24] <manu> calamari, thx, I have found an answer, it's just as I haven't the hand on the machine I'm a bit lost trying to explain :)
[01:24] <mrhodes> did you kill apt-get from another console?
[01:25] <garnertr> what is a good dvd-movie-player for Ubuntu?
[01:25] <goldfish> vlc
[01:25] <goldfish> xine
[01:25] <Thirsteh> garnertr, ogle, vlc, xine
[01:25] <Burgundavia> garnertr, totem
[01:25] <Burgundavia> garnertr, already installed
[01:25] <Thirsteh> garnertr, ogle is the most simple
[01:25] <mrhodes> it seems to assume you have a net connection already present at bootup, hence the default auto-time-update (ntp)... even during install it tried to access the internet without warning
[01:25] <jabular> mrhodes: 1st 2 installs went fine, 3rd freezes, same CD
[01:25] <garnertr> thanks!
[01:25] <Thirsteh> jabular, reboot and try again?
[01:26] <manu> calamari, thx anyways for listen to this :)
[01:26] <calamari> manu: np, sorry I couldn't help
[01:27] <jabular> mrhodes: same thing, same place --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24775
[01:28] <hybrid_goth> how do i use smb if the computer i want to acces is behind the same router as me therfore has the same ip
[01:28] <K_Dallas> i do not know but it should have another ip !
[01:29] <Thirsteh> hybrid_goth, routers give out different IP's, not the same
[01:29] <hybrid_goth> K_Dallas: nope this box has the exact same ip as the other
[01:29] <K_Dallas> for instance xx.xxx.xxx.100 and xx.xxx.xxx.101
[01:29] <K_Dallas> ok, so beyond my knowledge
[01:29] <hybrid_goth> Thirsteh: i went to ip chicken on one box and this one and they were the same
[01:30] <hybrid_goth> ill look again here in a second
[01:30] <Thirsteh> hybrid_goth, yes, that's because you go there via your router, which has one IP, but your machines get an IP each from the router, two machines cannot possibly have the same IP
[01:30] <holycow> check again, if they are you have problems
[01:30] <Thirsteh> hybrid_goth, IP chicken is on the internet, thus you exit your router, and have your routers IP, if you understand
[01:30] <arch_b1sh0p> and one try using the nvidia installer on ubuntu on a amd64?
[01:30] <arch_b1sh0p> anyone
[01:31] <hybrid_goth> Thirsteh: o i c
[01:31] <hybrid_goth> so how do i find the ip behind a router
[01:31] <Thirsteh> hybrid_goth, Windows or Linux machines?
[01:31] <Astrak> hi all
[01:31] <hybrid_goth> Thirsteh: the one i want to connect to is windows
[01:31] <goldfish> hybrid_goth: ifconfig ?
[01:31] <goldfish> hybrid_goth: ipconfig
[01:31] <goldfish> wait
[01:32] <goldfish> hmmmm
[01:32] <Thirsteh> hybrid_goth, ok, on your windows machine, open start->run...->'cmd' in the box, in cmd you enter 'ipconfig', it'll tell you your IP
[01:32] <ernstp> hmm, can't get subpixel AA in gnome with the radeon driver, but I get it with fglrx. R350 class card
[01:32] <Thirsteh> goldfish, yep, ipconfig ;)
[01:32] <goldfish> :)
[01:32] <hybrid_goth> ok ty
[01:32] <hybrid_goth> brb
[01:32] <Thirsteh> coughifconfig-wannabescough
[01:34] <Thirsteh> Okay, I'm off, when I return I'll be "human", ho, hoho, hohoho...
[01:35] <joe|code> Can I safely remove GNUstep or is it required by Gnome?
[01:37] <hybrid_goth> i ran smb://ip/musik and i get no such file or directory
[01:39] <A-z-i-z> i added a repository to /etc/apt/sources.list  .. but i get W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net stable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B90 .. when i run apt-get update ...
[01:40] <Burgundavia> A-z-i-z, use hoary-extras from the backports project instead
[01:40] <A-z-i-z> Burgundavia: how ?
[01:41] <Burgundavia> A-z-i-z, www.ubuntuforums.org --> 3rd party projects --> backports project
[01:41] <ernstp> joe|code, gnustep is something else. btw synaptic and apt knows all dependencies so you can allways try it and see
[01:43] <IcemanV9> flac or ogg?? which is better?
[01:43] <IcemanV9> when rip audio CD
[01:43] <amax> for?
[01:43] <amax> ogg is lossy, flac isnt
[01:43] <K_Dallas> unless you are extremely professional, either would be ok
[01:43] <K_Dallas> flac, ape, ... are all good
[01:44] <IcemanV9> k, thks :)
[01:44] <goldfish> if u have gigs of free space rip to flac
[01:44] <goldfish> :)
[01:44] <K_Dallas> :)
[01:44] <A-z-i-z> Burgundavia: thanks.. i found the missing package :)
[01:44] <goldfish> or terrabytes
[01:44] <BurgerMann> hi =))
[01:44] <K_Dallas> is ape smaller than flac of the same quality? never tried it
[01:45] <thechitowncubs> does ogg or mp3 have a smaller filesize?
[01:45] <K_Dallas> mp3 does for sure
[01:45] <thechitowncubs> really?
[01:45] <K_Dallas> flac and ape are something liek wave as far as i know but smaller
[01:45] <goldfish> yeah
[01:45] <BurgerMann> I'm downloaded an opera package (.deb) for Ubuntu. But when I run it a dialog, saying add or remove applications appears and I can't find out how to install Opera !! :(
[01:46] <thechitowncubs> sudo dpkg -i <deb>.deb
[01:46] <goldfish> BurgerMann: dpkg -i blah.deb ??
[01:46] <goldfish> meh
[01:46] <BurgerMann> oh oki
[01:46] <thechitowncubs> hopefully a gui deb installer is a feature in hoary :)
[01:47] <dockane> first my hd was  1.4 non contiguous and then 8.4 % ... is that a hint for a dying hd ?
[01:47] <thechitowncubs> how do you test that dockane?
[01:47] <dockane> thechitowncubs, ubuntu showed that at startup
[01:48] <kyncani> Announcing a new wiki page, for package management: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/PackageManagementHowTo
[01:48] <BurgerMann> thechitowncubs, yep it is, but can't figure out how to use it
[01:49] <BurgerMann> Weee... opera is groovy
[01:49] <BurgerMann> but it comes with ad =(((
[01:49] <lotusleaf> BurgerMann: if you like advertisements that is ;)
[01:50] <K_Dallas> opera is still what i use the most but firefox is catching pretty fast specially that in their recent trunk versions the forward-backward is fixed to give you excellent speed
[01:50] <BurgerMann> lotusleaf, I hat'em
[01:50] <thechitowncubs> Opera isn't as good in linux as win32 IMO
[01:51] <K_Dallas> true
[01:51] <thechitowncubs> Firefox is better in nix than win32 IMO
[01:51] <thechitowncubs> :)
[01:51] <BurgerMann> heh
[01:51] <K_Dallas> yet i would say faster than firefox or mozilla
[01:51] <lotusleaf> thechitowncubs: they both have ads in their free version though ;P
[01:51] <thechitowncubs> ya, which is stupid
[01:51] <thechitowncubs> but if they want to make money, i have no problem
[01:51] <thechitowncubs> but they aren't from me
[01:51] <hybrid_goth> i got to stay alternative to keep from virri so i use linus the same for browser i love fx but it is popular and bein targeted
[01:51] <BurgerMann> i suppose noone made a ad-go-away-crack for linux :s
[01:51] <K_Dallas> firefox, get the trunk version and change some config data to make it pretty neat and fast
[01:51] <hybrid_goth> viva la w3m
[01:51] <K_Dallas> viva lynx :)
[01:52] <BurgerMann> wouldn't know how to install it anyway
[01:52] <thechitowncubs> virus on linux, psh
[01:52] <BurgerMann> psh?
[01:52] <jnk> hybrid_goth, I recommend browsing with telnet on Hurd
[01:52] <hybrid_goth> K_Dallas: lynx has came a long way
[01:52] <lotusleaf> lol
[01:52] <BurgerMann> is that a sound? :s
[01:52] <goldfish> psh, pffff, et....
[01:52] <BurgerMann> ah
[01:52] <BurgerMann> get it
[01:52] <hybrid_goth> jkn: hurd? is it stable?
[01:52] <K_Dallas> i have not used lynx for quite a few years, i think it is now called links or something
[01:52] <lotusleaf> 300 baud via telnet on a vic-20, no problems then
[01:52] <thechitowncubs> XBOX 360 is getting its big debut tonight
[01:52] <goldfish> still called lynx in the repos
[01:52] <goldfish> i tried to use it
[01:52] <lotusleaf> or just use a good old commodore 64
[01:52] <K_Dallas> ok
[01:53] <hybrid_goth> K_Dallas: links != lynx
[01:53] <K_Dallas> well a i said, havent been following it in the past few years
[01:53] <K_Dallas> tought they were the same
[01:53] <K_Dallas> thought*
[01:53] <hybrid_goth> K_Dallas: as i said links != lynx
[01:53] <hybrid_goth> :D
[01:53] <K_Dallas> got that :)
[01:53] <lotusleaf> can I get an Amen for Dillo? :S
[01:54] <hybrid_goth> haha
[01:54] <hybrid_goth> does dillo support tabs
[01:55] <SuperLag> doubt it, and it's only GTK1
[01:55] <kyncani> Epiphany's got tabs
[01:55] <lotusleaf> actually in DSL I think they modified it to have tabs, either that or Feather nix
[01:55] <kyncani> and is lighter than firefox
[01:55] <lotusleaf> Dillo that is
[01:56] <hybrid_goth> Epiphany is too ugly
[01:56] <hybrid_goth> thats bad b/c i like cli browsers
[01:56] <PhantomFreak> Help, just installed Warty Warhog and the monitor shutsdown when the GUI is supposed to start.
[01:56] <PhantomFreak> Help!
[01:56] <synd> hey how do i print on a printer that is connected to a networked computer??
[01:56] <IIIEars> anything without java and scripting is good.
[01:57] <synd> PhantomFreak: install hoary
[01:57] <lotusleaf> hybrid_goth: then try conkeror
[01:57] <joh> PhantomFreak: why did you install warty when you can hoary?
[01:57] <shad0w1e> help! The ubuntu telnet host sucks! when I log in from windows telnet and open up any program that "occupies the screen", the screen gets all garbled on me! Does anyone know of a better telnet host to use?
[01:57] <hybrid_goth> lotusleaf: whats that
[01:57] <PhantomFreak> would hoary work any better!
[01:57] <thread> shad0w1e: ssh
[01:57] <lotusleaf> hybrid_goth: a web browser
[01:57] <hybrid_goth> PhantomFreak: yea
[01:57] <hybrid_goth> lotusleaf: cli or gui
[01:57] <synd> lotusleaf: konqueror
[01:57] <shad0w1e> thread: I hate when people tell me that. ssh doesnt come with windows
[01:57] <shad0w1e> lets say im in colleg
[01:57] <hybrid_goth> putty
[01:57] <Sauron21> guys....I know this sounds like a real noob question....but I was wondering how to install  .cpp  files?
[01:57] <lotusleaf> synd: no, conkeror
[01:57] <shad0w1e> or in a lab
[01:57] <thread> shad0w1e: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html
[01:58] <hybrid_goth> ./cpp
[01:58] <synd> hm. oh well
[01:58] <shad0w1e> youre not answering..
[01:58] <mtbeedee> shad0w1e, get putty
[01:58] <PhantomFreak> Installed Warty because we already had a disc for it! Although have been d/l Hoary all afternoon!
[01:58] <lotusleaf> Conkeror: http://conkeror.mozdev.org/
[01:58] <Mr-Mafio> him, im on xfce4 and I tryed to install kde but now I can't see my xfce4 menu
[01:58] <shad0w1e> the fact is that telnet comes installed on every windows PC. putty does NOT
[01:58] <IIIEars> Phantom - Hoary is -much- better.
[01:58] <synd> how do i print on a printer that is connected to a networked computer??
[01:58] <thread> shad0w1e: ssh is waaaayy better than telnet for many reasons
[01:58] <hybrid_goth> Mr-Mafio: try right clicking the desktop
[01:58] <IcemanV9> PhantomFreak: ok, upgrade Warty to Hoary then :)
[01:58] <synd> PhantomFreak: yes, hoary is quite nice.
[01:59] <sjohnson> GregHimself : i had a FUCK of a time finding a plastic 10cc syringe
[01:59] <synd> much nicer
[01:59] <PhantomFreak> fair enough!
[01:59] <thread> shad0w1e: putty can be downloaded as a single .exe that IS the application.. no need to install stuff... juyst drop it on your start menu or in c:\windows so you can start -> run -> putty
[01:59] <sjohnson> most places wouldn't give them to me, where can i buy them (what kind of store)?
[01:59] <synd> how do i print on a printer that is connected to a networked computer?
[01:59] <Sauron21> so if a file is named  test.cpp  I will install it by typing  ./test.cpp   ??
[01:59] <sjohnson> i want to have about 6 of these fuckers
[01:59] <shad0w1e> thread: yes but im using public computer labs all the time that dont have ssh
[01:59] <mtbeedee> shad0w1e, so get it.
[01:59] <thread> shad0w1e: hm =\ well you could use mindterm or some java based ssh client
[01:59] <PhantomFreak> sjohnson: I can quite easily get hold of suringes, my dad swipes them from work(the NHS)
[02:00] <shad0w1e> its an idea but I still like using telnet because its ALWAYS THERE
[02:00] <shad0w1e> so,
[02:00] <shad0w1e> any idea of why the screen gets all garbled?
[02:00] <shad0w1e> um what port is ssh
[02:00] <sjohnson> PhantomFreak: what kind of work does your dad do?
[02:00] <Flav> shad0w1e: 22
[02:00] <hybrid_goth> could you put putty on a uwb key a run from there?
[02:00] <mtbeedee> hybrid_goth: yes
[02:00] <shad0w1e> hybrid_goth: yes
[02:00] <PhantomFreak> He's an Anethatist...
[02:00] <hybrid_goth> sweet
[02:01] <tritium> Sauron21, no, that's a C++ file, most likely.  You'll want to compile it with g++.  Please verify the file type with "file test.cpp".
[02:01] <synd> how do i print on a printer that is connected to a networked computer??
[02:01] <ShadowRage> how do I stop pppd from overwriting resolv.conf?
[02:01] <shad0w1e> look, you cant argue with the fact that telnet is ALWAYS THERE
[02:01] <shad0w1e> so,
[02:01] <shad0w1e> any way to get THAT working?
[02:01] <ShadowRage> it keeps wiping my resolv.conf settings
[02:01] <hybrid_goth> synd: you will need cups
[02:01] <synd> hybrid_goth: cups?
[02:01] <hybrid_goth> synd: look in synaptic common unix printer system
[02:01] <yUSiyE> guys, what's the advantage ubuntu over others?
[02:02] <tritium> synd, System->Administration->Printing
[02:02] <dockane> how do i force a filesysytem check at next bootup ?
[02:02] <yUSiyE> want to try out ubuntu
[02:02] <IIIEars> Phantom - any free samples your dad my bring home would come in handy when the windows box just refuses to work.
[02:02] <hybrid_goth> easy but powefull
[02:02] <Sauron21> tritium: "ASCII C program text, with CRLF, LF line terminators"  ?
[02:02] <mtbeedee> shad0w1e: what are you using?  telnetd?
[02:02] <tritium> Sauron21, that's what I thought...
[02:02] <lotusleaf> only 9 hours remaining in my ubuntu download, woo!
[02:02] <IIIEars> ;)
[02:02] <shad0w1e> people keep saying that
[02:02] <hybrid_goth> yUSiyE: if you dont tweek it is all for noobs if you tweek it then it can b powerfull
[02:02] <shad0w1e> mtbeedee: yes
[02:03] <Sauron21> tritium: what do I do with that?
[02:03] <IIIEars> lotusleaf - bittorrent?
[02:03] <PhantomFreak> I did wonder why you wanted the suringes anyhow!
[02:03] <hybrid_goth> IIIEars: the bt died to like 3 seeds
[02:03] <lotusleaf> IIIEars: uh, no
[02:03] <tritium> Sauron21, you can compile it with g++.  Did it not come with any other files, such as a Makefile?
[02:03] <IIIEars> taw thats awful
[02:03] <thread> shad0w1e: try this.. there's no reason to use telnet anymore.. it's insecure and lacks features. http://www.oit.duke.edu/sa/security/ssh.html
[02:04] <mtbeedee> shad0w1e: That might be the only telnet daemon in the regular distro... you might be able to find another one.   I suspect the problem is with window's telnet client however
[02:04] <hybrid_goth> telnet is soooo Y2K
[02:04] <shad0w1e> they make putty for smartphone, thats very col
[02:04] <IIIEars> lol@goth
[02:04] <goldfish> hehe
[02:04] <Sauron21> no...only three files one   two .cpp files.....and one  .h file...
[02:04] <Sauron21> thats it...
[02:04] <tritium> goldfish, come here...my aquarium is getting empty
[02:04] <Razor-X> Putty for smartphone?
[02:04] <hybrid_goth> heh
[02:04] <goldfish> tritium: :)
[02:04] <sjohnson> quit teasing goldfish!!!.. he's mine
[02:05] <tritium> :)
[02:05] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: the sidekick had an ssh applet
[02:05] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: oooh, nice ;-P
[02:05] <Flav> now we just need ssh that has a sidekick applet
[02:05] <hybrid_goth> yup
[02:05] <shad0w1e> mtbeedee: well the windows one accesses my college's solaris network no problem
[02:05] <Razor-X> is there one for PPC?
[02:05] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: what?
[02:05] <IIIEars> still curious why not tightVNC?
[02:05] <Razor-X> PocketPC
[02:05] <PhantomFreak> Has anyone got one of the Live CDs to work? The ISO image I downloaded didn't work properly!
[02:05] <Razor-X> because, then, i'ld be on IRC wherever there's a network ;-P
[02:06] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: o i am on PPC powerpc:P prolly
[02:06] <Mr-Mafio> how can I uninstall KDE?
[02:06] <Razor-X> PhantomFreak: did you MD5 it?
[02:06] <shad0w1e> Razor-X: yes
[02:06] <tritium> PhantomFreak, they do work.  Please check the md5sum of the image you downloaded.
[02:06] <hybrid_goth> Mr-Mafio: #kubuntu
[02:06] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: heh, it gets confusing, those two acronyms
[02:06] <sbcl3> do you guys know how to install X11 cursor themes?
[02:06] <shad0w1e> Razor-X: I even installed it on my smartphone, although the screen resolution was too small to see the whole thing
[02:06] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: since ssh is free you can compile it on pocketpc
[02:06] <IIIEars> Phantom - yes it works - though some video cards require that you set resolution for them
[02:07] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: yes do a google search for ppc help
[02:07] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: yeah, but, is there a binary for it?
[02:07] <Jormundgand> How do you change the mouse pointer image?
[02:07] <IIIEars> laptops need the framebuffer option set correctly
[02:07] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: idk ask uncle google
[02:07] <PhantomFreak> Entered block size does not correspond with the image length! (That's what Nero said)...
[02:08] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: I shall!
[02:08] <hybrid_goth> lol
[02:08] <PhantomFreak> MD5????
[02:08] <IIIEars> Phantom - md5 sum check?
[02:09] <hybrid_goth> PhantomFreak: it has too do with interigity of the file
[02:09] <IIIEars> filealyzer is a good windows app there are many linux tools
[02:09] <PhantomFreak> Ah! Don't have any! D'Oh!
[02:10] <IIIEars> Filealyzer is free and of course linux is always completely free - wohoo! (ahem - sorry got a bit carried away.)
[02:11] <pepsi> why shouldnt i use grumpy, er i mean breezy yet?
[02:11] <bestadvocate> i have just descovered the glory of xpenguins -n 99
[02:11] <hybrid_goth> pepsi: are you from dslinux from chance?
[02:11] <pepsi> nope
[02:11] <MrKeuner> is there a problem with the torrent links on ubuntu dopwnload page?
[02:12] <hybrid_goth> pepsi: oh the leader was pepsiman :P
[02:12] <MrKeuner> I am having problem connecting to tracker
[02:12] <IIIEars> xpenguins - rofl - they're cute
[02:12] <Funraiser> MrKeuner, for what file?
[02:13] <bestadvocate> i like using my windows like legos and building a penguin empire
[02:13] <MrKeuner> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.04/ubuntu-5.04-dvd-amd64.iso.torrent
[02:13] <Funraiser> what client?
[02:13] <MrKeuner> gnome-btdownload
[02:14] <hybrid_goth> check out this image
[02:14] <hybrid_goth> http://atgig.com/hybrid/Linux_vs_Windows.gif
[02:14] <Funraiser> don't like gnome-btdownload, u can't see what's happening
[02:15] <hybrid_goth> bittorrent or bittornado
[02:15] <MrKeuner> well it looks like tracker has a problem
[02:15] <goldfish> if u dont mind java, azureus is good
[02:15] <MrKeuner> I mind java it's closed source
[02:15] <Funraiser> hybrid_goth, the link doesn't work...
[02:16] <tga> where do I get the .config file for the 2.6.10 kernel bottled with hoary?
[02:17] <PhantomFreak> OK MD5 gives me a number... What am I meant to do with that!
[02:17] <MrKeuner> Funraiser/ does that link work in your bittorrent client?
[02:17] <Funraiser> lemmet check
[02:17] <Nub> anyone know what package tulip_core.c resides in?
[02:17] <hybrid_goth> http://atgig.com/hybrid/Linux_vs_windows.gif
[02:17] <hybrid_goth> there you go
[02:18] <Funraiser> he he i like it
[02:18] <hybrid_goth> i found it on google one day i wz like sweet
[02:19] <tritium> tga, in /boot
[02:19] <Funraiser> MrKeuner, (launching azureus)
[02:19] <MrKeuner> ok
[02:19] <PhantomFreak> 0FE63FBFCCF1261C779ECEDA48DC0DDB
[02:19] <hybrid_goth> http://atgig.com/hybrid/logo.jpg
[02:19] <hybrid_goth> that one is common^
[02:19] <tga> tritium: thanks
[02:20] <tritium> tga, sure
[02:20] <tritium> Nub, likely linux-source-2.6.10
[02:21] <calc> what happened to gnome 2.11?
[02:21] <Nub> tritium: couldn't find it in my lib/modules
[02:21] <calc> is it really behind schedule?
[02:21] <tritium> Nub, there should be no .c files in /lib/modules
[02:22] <Nub> tritium: they're arn't, where would i find it then?
[02:22] <MrKeuner> Funraiser/ have it connected to the tracker, yet?
[02:22] <tritium> Nub, like I said, in the source package for the kernel.
[02:22] <Funraiser> MrKeuner, yeah tracker is down
[02:22] <calc> 2.11.2 should be out next monday but 2.11.1 isn't even out yet
[02:22] <MrKeuner> Funraiser/ ok thanks
[02:22] <Nub> tritium, /usr/src/2.6.10 doesn't exist
[02:22] <tritium> Nub, did you install linux-source-2.6.10 ?
[02:22] <MrKeuner> Any ubuntu people here? alert bittorrent tracker is down! :)
[02:23] <Funraiser> really down
[02:23] <Nub> tritium, availible on cd via apt-get?
[02:23] <tritium> Nub, apt-get for sure, don't recall about cd
[02:23] <IIIEars> The torrent tracker might be down.
[02:23] <tritium> (probably not)
[02:23] <Nub> tritium, where else would i get it?
[02:23] <tritium> Nub, why do you need the source?
[02:24] <Razor-X> someone should make a magnet link for teh Ubuntu torrent
[02:24] <Razor-X> *the
[02:24] <Nub> tritium, i have to modify the code to work with my NIC
[02:24] <Razor-X> the first ten minutes of Revelations seems awesome
[02:24] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: whats a magnet link
[02:24] <tritium> Nub, are you certain of this?
[02:24] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: a new feature of Azureus to manage trackerless torrents
[02:24] <Nub> tritium, as far as i've been able to find out, yes
[02:24] <joe|code> Anyone use Beep?
[02:24] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: all of revelation seems awesome
[02:24] <hybrid_goth> o
[02:25] <Razor-X> haven't watched it all yet
[02:25] <Razor-X> it's the first video i've downloaded in Ubuntu (second i'm watching)
[02:25] <tritium> Nub, okay, then get linux-source-2.6.10.  Do you not have internet access in linux right now?
[02:25] <Nub> tritium, that's why i need that source
[02:25] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: i kno alot of revelations and once on a bus trip told a girl i know so much about revelations it will scare you and she got hit in the head with a huge box
[02:25] <Razor-X> anyone here use a trackball?
[02:26] <Nub> tritium, to modify some code to get it to work with my NIC (ms pci adapter mn-130 #2)
[02:26] <TwoBitSprite> whenI run winetools... I get to the point where it's creating the fake_windows, and then proceeds to: "Invoking /usr/bin/wine rundll32.exe setupapi.dll,InstallHinfSection DefaultInstall 128 wine.inf ..." repeatedly, in an infinate loop
[02:26] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: i use a track*pad*
[02:26] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: i'm assuming it's not the TV show  Revelations?
[02:26] <tritium> Nub, right.  http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=all&file=pool/main/l/linux-source-2.6.10/linux-source-2.6.10_2.6.10-34_all.deb&md5sum=29d9cec9e10de04cfe3d9eb868e6bd6a&arch=all&type=main
[02:26] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: yes heh
[02:26] <Nub> tritium, thank you so much
[02:27] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: oh, heh, I meant Star Wars Revelations
[02:27] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: oh heh
[02:27] <tritium> Nub, no problem.  You'll want to transfer that to the linux side however you can, and then install it with dpkg.
[02:27] <Unfrgiven> can i override a module in initrd with one ive built that lives in /lib/modules? does modprobe first look in /lib/modules or initrd?
[02:28] <Funraiser> it's weird i can't empty my trash even with sudo rm -fr $HOME/.Trash/
[02:28] <Nub> tritium, burning it onto a cd now...
[02:28] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: star wars pwns
[02:28] <Razor-X> once I get my trackball (which i'm pretty set on getting), i'm going to try and buy a sign saying "No Average Computer Users Allowed" in front of my door
[02:28] <tritium> TwoBitSprite, are you using wine from universe or from winehq.com?
[02:28] <Razor-X> *the computer room's door
[02:28] <tritium> Nub, good luck!
[02:28] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: amen to that
[02:28] <TwoBitSprite> tritium, universe
[02:28] <tritium> TwoBitSprite, winetools works with wine from winehq.com, but not the version in universe
[02:28] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: he trackpads rule i want one for my laptop no matter how bad it looks
[02:29] <TwoBitSprite> tritium, should I uninstall the one from universe and install the one in winehq?
[02:29] <Razor-X> hell, you have to be pretty stupid to freak out without the start bar, but then, try typing and you type Dvorak, try moving the mouse and you'll freak out ;-P
[02:29] <hybrid_goth> my sis has one on my old windows box and can barely use it :P
[02:29] <hybrid_goth> lol
[02:29] <tritium> TwoBitSprite, if you want to use winetools, hyes.
[02:29] <tritium> yes
[02:29] <Razor-X> not many computer users can use the Linux box here, very very effective safeguard
[02:30] <Razor-X> that, and much easier on my wrists
[02:30] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: my mom could do basics on mdk but my sis hahahahaha she would cry
[02:30] <besian> how do you install programs on ubuntu? i.e. Skype?
[02:30] <PhantomFreak> Ok, so my live ISO file had a completely different MD5 compared to the MD5 on the net! This means I have to download it again!
[02:30] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: i had my laptop at school and my sis friend said ill take that and i wz like plz you couldnt use it
[02:30] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: my dad could do basics in Ubuntu, my mom on the other hand.... my sister can't do anything on any computer because, well... he's almost 2 ;)
[02:31] <tritium> PhantomFreak, yes.
[02:31] <hybrid_goth> besian: d/l the deb then sudo dpkg -i skype.deb
[02:31] <PhantomFreak> I actually ordewred some discs! Wonder if I can be bothered to wait for them to arrive!
[02:31] <Razor-X> but, then, my dad hates Linux anyways
[02:31] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: heh my sis uses xp can has problems
[02:31] <Razor-X> so, whatever
[02:31] <Funraiser> besian, one sec
[02:31] <tritium> besian, in general, if the program is available in the reposotories, you'd use synaptic, or apt-get, or aptitude, rather than installing it manually with dpkg
[02:31] <Razor-X> this isn't my computer either, it's my dad's
[02:31] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: she "broke" her monitor
[02:31] <phoenixp3k> root password is not working! (help!)
[02:32] <IIIEars> bes, - try synaptic for -great if you are new. - settings >> repository >>"+Plus" >> "Universe community supported"
[02:32] <PhantomFreak> Completely different as you can see...
[02:32] <PhantomFreak> 77a1a8be45e0cc93a14c9b9bf00f6648
[02:32] <PhantomFreak> 0FE63FBFCCF1261C779ECEDA48DC0DDB
[02:32] <tritium> phoenixp3k, there is no root password
[02:32] <Razor-X> I double boot with a Windows partition
[02:32] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: i had to go down there and turn it on
[02:32] <Razor-X> hybrid_goth: heh
[02:32] <Funraiser> besian, http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#skype
[02:32] <Gatton> Hmmm maybe there should be a bot to count the number of times the 'root password' question is asked :)
[02:32] <tritium> phoenixp3k, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[02:32] <phoenixp3k> tritium, I leave a blank?
[02:32] <tritium> read the above URL
[02:32] <hybrid_goth> Gatton: 10001
[02:32] <BurgerMann> go to bed folkes
[02:32] <phoenixp3k> wasn't like that in Warty
[02:32] <tritium> Gatton, no kidding ;)
[02:32] <hybrid_goth><PHONE_NUMBER>10101010101010101 in binary
[02:33] <tritium> phoenixp3k, always has been like that
[02:33] <Gatton> I should be quiet though cuz I'm a newbie too :)
[02:33] <hybrid_goth> heh
[02:33] <Razor-X> i'm new to UBuntu, but not to Linux
[02:33] <tritium> (even in Warty, phoenixp3k)
[02:33] <PhantomFreak> I've never found the root password either! And, I've tried all the obvious ones!
[02:33] <Razor-X> although, my Linux/BASH skills are rusty, it's been a while since i've used Linux
[02:33] <Razor-X> and, Ubuntu is just incredible incredible
[02:33] <hybrid_goth><PHONE_NUMBER>10101010101010110 in binary
[02:33] <hybrid_goth> now
[02:34] <phoenixp3k> tritium
[02:34] <Razor-X> I really think Ubuntu should supercede Debian
[02:34] <Jormundgand> How do I desudo after sudo -i?
[02:34] <Funraiser> should?
[02:34] <phoenixp3k> tritium, I had to type a root password every time
[02:34] <tritium> ubuntu needs debian
[02:34] <hybrid_goth> yes
[02:34] <Razor-X> well, it's based on Debian
[02:34] <tritium> phoenixp3k, no, you had to type your user's password for sudo
[02:34] <Razor-X> I think Ubuntu should become the main project, and the old Debian shoudl become something different
[02:34] <Razor-X> just like Firefox to Mozilla
[02:34] <Razor-X> *should
[02:34] <thread> Jormundgand: exit?
[02:35] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: no then we would never get releases
[02:35] <Gatton> I kind of like the idea of Debian soldiering on and other distros using it as a base to build something great on
[02:35] <hybrid_goth> they be like ubuntu is not Y3K compatible
[02:35] <Gatton> Besides...many people like the philosophy of the Debian project
[02:35] <phoenixp3k> tritium, but when I try to access configuration stuff, it ask for the password
[02:35] <IIIEars> Ubuntu - is to Debian what Wolfgang puck is to pizza - other debians are just frozen pizza - lol
[02:35] <tritium> phoenixp3k, please read that URL I gave you.  That has always been the root/sudo policy, including Warty.
[02:35] <zoddan> how do i start kismet ?
[02:36] <hybrid_goth> Gatton: yea debian is like modified kernal in a way
[02:36] <tritium> phoenixp3k, yes, but not a root password...the password of your user that has sudo priveleges
[02:36] <Razor-X> IIIEars: what if you make your own PizzaL
[02:36] <besian> Skype is killing me... dpkg: error processing skype (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[02:36] <Razor-X> *?
[02:36] <Funraiser> besian, u did http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#skype
[02:36] <Funraiser> ?
[02:36] <zoddan> i cant start kismet :(
[02:36] <besian> Funraiser yes i did the repos n all
[02:37] <BurgerMann> zoddan, can't u just write kismet in console?
[02:37] <zoddan> no
[02:37] <phoenixp3k> tritium, let's say no users have sudo privilege, because I never set any
[02:37] <BurgerMann> :S
[02:37] <zoddan> i get some errors
[02:37] <tritium> besian, if it's in a repo, use apt-get install, rather than download and use dpkg
[02:37] <FreeEagle> Hi all
[02:37] <phoenixp3k> tritium, Child terminated with 1 status
[02:37] <nobile> hi
[02:37] <tritium> phoenixp3k, the first user you added got sudo priveleges when you installed
[02:37] <Funraiser> besian, did u intall libqt3c102-mt ?
[02:37] <zoddan> BurgerMann: how do i configure kismet ?
[02:38] <tritium> phoenixp3k, have you read that URL yet?  Please quit arguing with me until you've gotten the facts.
[02:38] <FreeEagle> I have a question concerning Installing Firefox 1.4 the last one
[02:38] <BurgerMann> haven't got a clue =(
[02:38] <phoenixp3k> tritium, I'm reading it no worries
[02:38] <besian> Funraiser, it wont even let me do that: gstreamer0.8-lame: Depends: liblame0 (>= 3.96.1-1) but it is not installable
[02:38] <polok> I'm trying to install sshd, but it says I don't have ssh installed (I do), and it says that openssh-server is uninstallable... I'm using Warty.
[02:39] <Funraiser> besian, do not use synaptic use sudo apt-get install libqt3c102-mt
[02:39] <Razor-X> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004VUGJ/102-6307602-9640151?v=glance&s=electronics&me=ATVPDKIKX0DER&vi=pictures&img=1#more-pictures the trackball I want
[02:39] <PhantomFreak> Right, I think I'm going to call it a night! It's 1:38 here and I did promise myself I'd get up sometime before 11 tommorow! Thanks to all that helped me...
[02:39] <besian> Funraiser, i did do that... n i still get the same msg :(
[02:39] <Razor-X> I better sleep now, I have a fever so... I need to go to school tomorrow for the stupid French test
[02:40] <Funraiser> Razor-X, bonne chance!
[02:40] <sbcl3> does ubuntu not come with "gobject"?
[02:40] <hybrid_goth> Razor-X: heh g'nite
[02:40] <goldfish> avallach: you could try reconfiguring the X server, that worked for me.
[02:40] <FreeEagle> Anyone here can help me please!!!!
[02:40] <Funraiser> besian, don't know then
[02:40] <Razor-X> Funraiser: toi aussi
[02:40] <sbcl3> and its not in synaptic either
[02:40] <IIIEars> Razr, - Hope you are feeling better tommorow
[02:40] <Razor-X> day, everyone ;)
[02:40] <hybrid_goth> yo hablo expanol?
[02:40] <besian> meh guess ill just move to Novell or Mandrake... a lot easier for beginners
[02:40] <avallach> goldfish, do you mean by editing the xorg.conf?  thats what im trying.  im afraid im a bit of a novice (only slightly better than newb)
[02:40] <hybrid_goth> ?yo hablo expanol?
[02:40] <tritium> FreeEagle, you're always welcome to ask.  If someone knows how to help, they'll answer.
[02:40] <Funraiser> besian, maybe u should upgrade to hoary first...(?)
[02:41] <besian> Funraiser, how do i do that?
[02:41] <dockane> "EXT2-fs warning (device hda2): ext2_fill_super: mounting ext3 filesystem as ext2" .... do i have to worry about something ?
[02:41] <besian> Funraiser, and i just got Ununtu like a week ago
[02:41] <goldfish> avallach: insted of manually editing it, you can try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' console based tool for editing it
[02:41] <Razor-X> *ton aussi ;)
[02:41] <FreeEagle> okay.... tritium , thanks, i am asking if there is anyway to install the last Version of Firefox easly and without problems for a Newbie in Linux
[02:41] <tritium> hybrid_goth, you just asked yourself if you speak spanish
[02:42] <hybrid_goth> yup
[02:42] <FreeEagle> Can anyone here guide me to do it please!!!
[02:42] <Funraiser> besian, a week ago and it's warty?
[02:42] <hybrid_goth> FreeEagle: ubuntuguide.org ubuntuforums.org
[02:42] <besian> Funraiser, i dont know what warty is bro
[02:42] <hybrid_goth> heh
[02:42] <Funraiser> guys what the apt-get line to upgrade to hoary from warty?
[02:42] <K_Dallas> under debian i only got the installer and it did a fine job
[02:42] <FreeEagle> hybrid_goth, thxm will check it now
[02:42] <tritium> hybrid_goth, and how did you answer yourself?
[02:42] <hybrid_goth> besian: do a uname -a
[02:43] <Janux> Hi, does anyone here use LTSP? the ubuntu repository has 0.10-2 version only but the most updated is 4.1, do you know that if Ubuntu stops supporting that?
[02:43] <hybrid_goth> tritium: no i didnt put the leading ?
[02:43] <besian> hybrid_goth just username -a?
[02:43] <Funraiser> besian, click system/about ubuntu
[02:43] <FreeEagle> thx for help!!! Bye
[02:43] <hybrid_goth> ?yo hablo expanol? si
[02:43] <tritium> hybrid_goth, and it would have been inverted...
[02:44] <TwoBitSprite> so, I did "dpkg -r wine" then added the winehq.com repository and did "apt-get install wine winetools" and winetools still doesn't work... same infinate loop
[02:44] <hybrid_goth> tritium: yes
[02:44] <besian> elcome to Ubuntu Linux 5.04 : The Hoary Hedgehog Release.
[02:44] <nobile> hablo espaol? Si
[02:44] <besian> Funraiser, welcome to Ubuntu Linux 5.04 : The Hoary Hedgehog Release.
[02:44] <hybrid_goth> accent on the i
[02:44] <odyssey> TwoBitSprite, if you mix the wine in the universe and wine from winehq.com then that happens
[02:44] <TwoBitSprite> how do I remove the one frm universe? I thought I uninstalled it?
[02:44] <avallach> goldfish, ...at 1280x1024 it only gave me the option for 60hz for some reason.
[02:44] <nobile> that is correct =)
[02:45] <goldfish> ugh
[02:45] <goldfish> :/
[02:45] <Funraiser> besian, i'll try to install skype on mine to see if it works
[02:45] <nobile> hablo espaol? S
[02:45] <hybrid_goth> heh
[02:45] <besian> Funraiser, ok thanks
[02:45] <tritium> TwoBitSprite, "sudo aptitude install wine=0.0.20050310-1"
[02:45] <hybrid_goth> nobile: kool
[02:45] <nobile> latin is cool
[02:46] <Funraiser> besian, u did add the extra-repositories didn't u?
[02:46] <hybrid_goth> lol
[02:46] <nobile> you know latin and you can understand about 5 more languages
[02:46] <besian> Funraiser, im not sure... lemme double check
[02:46] <hybrid_goth> i speak xml html some c /java/ c++ then php xhtml javascript
[02:46] <nobile> french, italian, spanish, portuguese, some other more probably
[02:46] <hybrid_goth> unix
[02:47] <karljp> I only speak one languge
[02:47] <karljp> binary
[02:47] <dockane> it looks like i have got a dying hd, thats why i need to backup /home. my qestion is it really that easy, that i'll 'cp /home' to i.e. a sambamount and than move it back after a new ubuntu instlallation ?
[02:47] <hybrid_goth> to me xml xhtml html is like english spanish latin if you get me
[02:47] <pirving> what do I use for P2P in Ubuntu???
[02:47] <pirving> I usually use gtk-gnutella
[02:47] <hybrid_goth> there 10 ppl in this world those who know binary and those who dont
[02:47] <hybrid_goth> bittorrent
[02:48] <Funraiser> pirving, u can install amule too
[02:48] <avallach> 10 types of ppl
[02:48] <pirving> so just use torrent?
[02:48] <hybrid_goth> or amule or limewire
[02:48] <hybrid_goth> oprions options options
[02:48] <besian> damn im fucken tired of gettin errors just to install freakin Skype
[02:48] <hybrid_goth> *options
[02:48] <pirving> can someone work on the GTK-GNUTELLA bug
[02:49] <Funraiser> besian, the installation is a breeze here...
[02:49] <odyssey> besain should only be one error about libqt multi threaded library
[02:49] <tritium> besian, please watch the language?
[02:49] <alka_trash> hey ubunters is anyone running descent3?
[02:49] <Owl^> descent3? native? windows?
[02:49] <besian> ecxuse me
[02:49] <alka_trash> loki
[02:49] <pirving> All I can think is BSD
[02:50] <bitsmash> hi
[02:50] <bitsmash> no gnome menu editor yet?
[02:50] <besian> Funraiser, maybe i should reinstall ubuntu... when i tried installin the extra repos... my files look different from the one on the guide
[02:50] <Funraiser> besian, no don't do that
[02:50] <avallach> I don't suppose anyone here has an NEC LCD1712 monitor & can share their xorg.conf file?
[02:51] <Funraiser> besian, u followed the steps in http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[02:51] <Funraiser> ?
[02:51] <pirving> why is Ubuntu rated # 1 on www.distrowatch.com
[02:51] <alka_trash> I'm not able to get it to run non-root and the update doesn't work either
[02:51] <Funraiser> cose Ubuntu rulezz
[02:51] <Owl^> ubuntu rules, that's so true
[02:51] <TwoBitSprite> gaaah!!!! why can't any of this just work?
[02:51] <Owl^> I have hoary
[02:51] <pirving> ok, real quick....how does the rpm work?
[02:51] <pirving> good?
[02:52] <tritium> TwoBitSprite, did you do what I showed you?
[02:52] <Owl^> everything works I want to (including two soundcards and a tv-out)
[02:52] <hybrid_goth> tritium: are you using breezy?
[02:52] <besian> Funraiser, i tried... but when that file opens where im supposed to uncomment those lines... mine look very different from the one on the guide
[02:52] <Funraiser> besian, if u did follow the steps, then your source list is saved in /etc/apt/sources.list_backup
[02:52] <TwoBitSprite> tritium, yes... and now winetools complains about files not existing, etc...
[02:52] <tritium> hybrid_goth, no, not yet.  I intend to setup a breezy chroot and continue to use hoary.
[02:53] <hybrid_goth> whats chroot
[02:53] <tritium> TwoBitSprite, you removed wine from universe (sudo aptitude purge wine), and then "sudo aptitude install wine=0.0.20050310-1"?
[02:53] <TwoBitSprite> tritium, I didn't see you say anything about purgeing... :P
[02:53] <tritium> TwoBitSprite, well, at least remove it
[02:54] <polok> ok
[02:54] <Funraiser> besian, do it again, but paste what's on the sample
[02:54] <Owl^> winetools? that's a wine matter, not ubuntumatter
[02:54] <polok> I can't get sshd >_<
[02:54] <polok> I'm going to use a debian source
[02:54] <tritium> hybrid_goth, search the wiki/google for it ;)
[02:54] <polok> I can't find any literature to tell me otherwise >_<
[02:54] <hybrid_goth> ok
[02:54] <LeeColleton> has anyone tried to install Ubuntu on one of those $498 WalMart laptops?
[02:54] <tritium> polok, you're advised not to, though
[02:55] <garnertr> goodevening
[02:55] <Owl^> polok, I said just "apt-get install ssh" and I got an ssh-server
[02:55] <tritium> polok, if you want sshd, apt-cache search sshd, and you'll see that you need openssh-server (or the ssh metapackage, which depends on it)
[02:55] <hybrid_goth> YaST is for novices
[02:56] <hybrid_goth> LP
[02:56] <hybrid_goth> :P
[02:56] <avallach> i guess thats me then, cuz i cant get my video working right.
[02:56] <polok> I get told openssh is a broken package
[02:56] <TwoBitSprite> tritium, ok, purged wine, then installed wine per the command you provided... anything special I should use to install winetools?
[02:56] <TwoBitSprite> tritium, or just "sudo apt-get install winetools"?
[02:57] <hybrid_goth> avallach: have you searched the wiki and forums
[02:57] <avallach> ubuntu starts in 1024x768 @ 60hz, and wont let me change anything through the gui...i play with xorg.conf, and i get either 1280x1024@60hz or 1024x768@70hz.  cant get 1280x1024@70.
[02:57] <avallach> googled it, thats about it so far.
[02:57] <tritium> TwoBitSprite, sure, apt-get will work (I prefer aptitude)
[02:57] <TwoBitSprite> tritium, and, is there anything I need to run before winetools, once its installed?
[02:58] <polok> it now refuses to install because the version of openssh-client I have is .1 newer than the version it wants >:(
[02:58] <IcemanV9> LeeColleton: bring livecd to WalMart and see if it works :)
[02:58] <tritium> TwoBitSprite, nope, just winetools, and step through the base setup, etc. in order.
[02:58] <GhostFreeman> How can I check what version of the ATI drivers I am running?
[02:59] <besian> lol seriously my ybuntu wont lemme install anything
[02:59] <goldfish> hehe
[02:59] <TwoBitSprite> tritium, do I need to run winetools as sudo? it's now complaining about permissions...
[02:59] <tritium> TwoBitSprite, no...
[02:59] <polok> downgrading now =\
[02:59] <besian> oh we;re gonna need more than advil lol
[02:59] <TwoBitSprite> rm: cannot remove `/usr/lib/wine/dosdevices/c:/windows/command/start.exe': Permission denied
[02:59] <TwoBitSprite> Warning: failed to create /usr/lib/wine/dosdevices/c:/windows/command/start.exe
[02:59] <TwoBitSprite> that's a lot of times with different filenames
[03:00] <odyssey> TwoBitSprite, you are not suppose to run winetools as sudo
[03:00] <Funraiser> besian, do the extra-repos again, by copy/paste what's on the sample
[03:00] <besian> Funraiser, i did that... n i still get the same problems
[03:00] <tritium> besian, sounds like your /etc/apt/sources.list needs to be checked
[03:00] <tritium> polok, are you mixing package from debian/warty/hoary or someting?
[03:00] <TwoBitSprite> odyssey, I'm not, but it's complaining about permissions
[03:01] <tritium> something
[03:01] <LeeColleton> IcemanV9: hell yeah!
[03:01] <pirving> ok, so what do you use for a torrent search?
[03:02] <pirving> www.torrentreactor.net ?
[03:02] <polok> tritium: nope debian not in here
[03:02] <goldfish> pirving: www.torrentspy.com
[03:02] <besian> tritium, i dont even have /etc/apt lol
[03:02] <pirving> ok
[03:02] <goldfish> best one i know of
[03:02] <Owl^> ubuntu rocks
[03:02] <tritium> polok, you shouldn't be need to downgrade anything
[03:02] <TwoBitSprite> odyssey, any idea why I'm having permission problems when running winetools?
[03:02] <tritium> besian, you have to...look again.  /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:02] <polok> tritium: it's telling me my version of openssh-client is too new for openssh-server
[03:03] <TwoBitSprite> and why is wine even messing with /usr/lib anyways??
[03:03] <tritium> polok, you're not using breezy I hope
[03:03] <polok> tritium: nope, but I just figured out the problem (I think)
[03:04] <tritium> TwoBitSprite, I don't know.  Not sure what could be causing that.
[03:04] <Owl^> is breezy how stable nowadays?
[03:04] <polok> the problem isn't with ubuntu, but I must be going blind
[03:04] <IcemanV9> LeeColleton: you might convince some ppl to use ubuntu instead of windoze; you'll be hero for ubuntu community ;)
[03:04] <dcraven> Any GNOME user wanna test my crappy alpha quality project? heh
[03:04] <Funraiser> i convinced myself, does that count?
[03:04] <techii> ?
[03:04] <dcraven> Owl^: No it's not just yet.
[03:04] <techii> dcraven: what is it?
[03:05] <besian> tritium, i have sources.list_extrarepos and sources.list_backportsrepos...
[03:05] <dcraven> techii: it's a serverless wiki applet.
[03:05] <tritium> besian, you need  /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:05] <techii> basicly a note applet?
[03:05] <Owl^> dcraven, ok. I just wanted to know that if I updated my sources.list to breezy, would I be happier or sadder?
[03:06] <tritium> Owl^, likely sadder -- see the topic.
[03:06] <besian> tritium, ok i found it... now what?
[03:06] <dcraven> Owl^: Very sad :(
[03:06] <tga> can anyone please take a look at qce-source?
[03:06] <Owl^> dcraven, it says, please don't use breezy yet
[03:06] <tga> I can't get it to compile
[03:07] <avallach> hrm.  i have another computer on an identical monitor with SuSE...it runs just fine.  im so retarded.
[03:07] <TwoBitSprite> I think I'm just going to reinstall Ubuntu...  But like a wiki. You give it wiki syntax, it gives you xhtml.
[03:07] <ajmitch_> Owl^: expect many breakages at present
[03:07] <tritium> besian, check it for universe and multiverse repos.  What is it you're trying to install?
[03:07] <tritium> take heart, TwoBitSprite :)
[03:07] <Owl^> ajmitch_, thanks... but I was already expecting them... only about 5 months till another release of ubuntu, so no go
[03:08] <TwoBitSprite> tritium, it's ok... I'm a pro at the linux install/mess-up/reinstall cycle :P
[03:08] <besian> tritium, i have all the websites under UNIVERSE uncommented... but i dont have a multiverse anywhere...?
[03:08] <bitsmash> whats a good text editor for python programming?
[03:08] <tritium> TwoBitSprite, :)
[03:08] <dcraven> techii: I'm not a huge fan of Tomboy, but I think the idea is good, so I wrote this one.
[03:08] <TwoBitSprite> I'll be back with a new install, and whole new slew of problems for you all in a bit :)
[03:09] <tritium> besian, you can add it if you like.  See ubuntuguide.org for how to add extra repositories.  (note that I don't advocate ubuntuguide for much beyond that)
[03:09] <techii> Im not quite 'in the mood for testing stuff' right now
[03:09] <nqt> is there a way to find the model of an IDE device using udevinfo?
[03:09] <techii> Im away from my main machine
[03:09] <dcraven> techii: That's ok, I'll find some other poor sap :P
[03:09] <crimsun> nqt: that info should be available via dmesg
[03:10] <Owl^> damn, I would wanna be in on helping getting a) ubuntu and b) wine to the level I want them to be... I have talents, but it seems not enough. anyhow... I want all to be a part of something larger, ubuntu as an example (I don't know when to stop so I'll stop now - currently I'd want to backspace all of I have said, so goodbye) :D
[03:10] <nqt> crimsun, it's already passed the buffer..
[03:10] <GhostFreeman> how do i install a .rpm file
[03:10] <crimsun> nqt: even /var/log/dmesg?
[03:11] <techii> GhostFreeman: look at 'alien'
[03:11] <GhostFreeman> ok
[03:11] <nqt> crimsun, d'oh, that'll work, thanks :)
[03:12] <mz2> besian, Eclipse with Pydev is a good Python editor
[03:12] <techii> GhostFreeman: Haven't used it myself, so ask someone else if you need more details
[03:13] <Janux> Does anyone use LTSP?
[03:15] <GhostFreeman> k
[03:15] <onekill> what program do you guys like to use to listen to internet radio?
[03:15] <Funraiser> i use xine
[03:15] <difekta> i need help with a quandary.
[03:16] <difekta> i just got my 250gb drive in, only it's not sata like it was supposed to be.  is there any way i could install ubuntu and many many apps on it, and then transfer everything to a new drive and then ship this one back for a refund?
[03:16] <GhostFreeman> are the ATI drivers on universe up to date?
[03:16] <difekta> i don't want to install a bunch of stuff that is a waste of time.
[03:17] <techii> difekta: yes IF you know what you are doing
[03:17] <dcraven> merriam wanted to test my proggy...  It works fine with all versions of Ubuntu.
[03:23] <tga> does anyone have a few minutes to help me test gnomemeeting?
[03:23] <g14> I'm a big fan of SanDisk, I've seen 2 Lexar drives corrupt
[03:24] <crimsun> YMMV (your mileage may vary)
[03:24] <tritium> difekta, I also have a Lexar JumpDrive (Trio)
[03:24] <Janux> Hi, when I configure my network card IP in KDE, where does it save the data to? /etc/network/interfaces? but the IP there does not match.
[03:24] <waterbeetle> I'm new to Ubuntu, and I'm having a problem with all problems in gnome that require a password...  I have chek'd passwords, and have been entering my main user's password as well as root's.  Any Ideas?
[03:24] <waterbeetle> programs
[03:25] <waterbeetle> gnomemeeting?
[03:25] <goldfish> maybe u have to run them with the sudo command?
[03:25] <tga> like netmeeting but for gnome, eh
[03:25] <thechitowncubs> http://msxb.wmod.llnwd.net/a274/o2/ourcolony/TheColony_v1_750k.wmv
[03:26] <tritium> waterbeetle, you enabled the root account?
[03:26] <thechitowncubs> copy and paste that link into totem
[03:26] <thechitowncubs> make sure you have w32codecs
[03:26] <difekta> i never said my flash drive wouldn't work.
[03:26] <difekta> just that it's utterly useless.
[03:26] <tga> thechitowncubs: what's that supposed to be?
[03:26] <waterbeetle> yes, I have been running through terminal, then running su, and then whatever program...
[03:26] <difekta> no one has a flash drive to plug your media nito
[03:26] <crimsun> waterbeetle: graphical apps that require root access should use gksudo app; cli ones should use sudo app
[03:26] <thechitowncubs> It is XBOX 360 unveiled.
[03:26] <tga> does it run linux?
[03:27] <difekta> look how ebuyer.com screwed me over making me think i was buying an sata drive: http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=161418
[03:27] <waterbeetle> tritium, howtocheck if root is enabled?  (It should be.)
[03:27] <difekta> does that, or does it not, say that the category is s-ata?
[03:27] <cappe> hey guys.. do you know the path the the folder with the header-files to the kernel that Ubuntu Hoary is running? (the kernel is 2.6.10-5)
[03:28] <crimsun> cappe: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[03:28] <mez> Qwik Q: I want to use the latest version of wine, but ti doesnt seem to be in apt-get - howdo i make this choose the right wine - so i can try and play a game
[03:30] <cappe> crimsun, cool, cheers
[03:30] <garnertr> yawn
[03:31] <mez> i cant seemt o find winex in the apt-get either
[03:31] <mez> am i missing something
[03:31] <tritium> waterbeetle, it should be?  meaning you enabled it?  (by defualt it's disabled: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo)
[03:31] <crimsun> no. Please see http://www.transgaming.com or #cedega
[03:31] <Burgundavia> mez, winex is now cedega
[03:32] <mez> yeah i cant find cedega either :d
[03:32] <mez> E: Couldn't find package cedega
[03:32] <waterbeetle> tritium, thanks I'll check that out
[03:32] <wastrel> can anyone explain to me why i can never connect to wifi under linux?
[03:33] <wastrel> also how do i put in a WEP key & password?
[03:33] <tga> wastrel: what card do you have and what is the error?
[03:33] <tga> wastrel: if you don't put in a WEP key you can't talk to the AP
[03:33] <nubious> Hey I seem to remember ubuntu coming with VNC Server..  anyone clue me in on where it's at?
[03:33] <tga> nubious: apt-cache search vncserver
[03:33] <nubious> cool
[03:33] <nubious> thx
[03:33] <waterbeetle> tritium, I had previously installed Ubuntu, and never had these problems, it would ask for the password, and I would enter it no problem...
[03:34] <bob2> wastrel: er, if your AP requires WEP, and you haven't set it up, it's not surprising you can't connect...
[03:34] <wastrel> tga intel pro/wireless 2200bg and no error it just doesn't do anything
[03:34] <nubious> tga: just xvncviewer, which states its a client
[03:34] <tga> nubious: apt-get install tightvncserver or something
[03:34] <nubious> I thought it came installed in the hoary release
[03:34] <wastrel> bob2:  the ap i tried tonight needs a wep key the other ones i've tried are open and i can log in with windows but not with linux.
[03:35] <nubious> doesn't it go by the name of vino or something?
[03:35] <nubious> that helps thoi
[03:35] <nubious> I'll poke around
[03:35] <wastrel> i'm using the gnome configuration dealy
[03:35] <bob2> wastrel: are they MAC-locked?  can you connect with the exact same machine?
[03:35] <wastrel> exact machine i reboot into doze
[03:35] <tga> nubious: I always do a 'server' install so I can't tell you about default packages
[03:35] <FAR> waterbeetle:  you need to use sudo not su
[03:35] <bob2> wastrel: how did you try to connect to it?
[03:35] <tga> are there even drivers for intel wifi cards? don't you need the wrapper thingie?
[03:36] <difekta> what is "cs enabled" on my hard drive?
[03:36] <nub_away> hmmm
[03:36] <tga> counterstrike?
[03:36] <difekta> i don't know whether to put the header on it.
[03:36] <nub_away> it seems to be installed
[03:36] <nub_away> now
[03:36] <nub_away> where to find it
[03:36] <FAR> tga: there are, ipw2100 and ipw2200
[03:36] <bob2> nub_away: x11vnc appears to be what you want
[03:36] <difekta> it's one of the jumpers
[03:36] <tritium> waterbeetle, that password is your user's password, not a root password.
[03:36] <bob2> tga: they work out of the box with ubuntu
[03:36] <wastrel> bob2 i use the gnome network connection tool
[03:36] <waterbeetle> tritium , yes I know.
[03:36] <hybrid_goth><PHONE_NUMBER>10101010101010111 in binary
[03:36] <wastrel> bob2:  network-admin i think
[03:36] <bob2> wastrel: well, ignore that
[03:36] <difekta> what is the jumper labeled "cs enabled" on my hard drive?
[03:36] <tga> bob2: nice
[03:37] <tritium> hybrid_goth, that is binary ;)
[03:37] <bob2> difekta: cable-select
[03:37] <waterbeetle> it gives me this error: Failed to run /usr/bin/x-terminal-emulator:
[03:37] <difekta> ahh
[03:37] <waterbeetle>  Child terminated with 1 status
[03:37] <bob2> difekta: it decides if it's a master or slave based on where on the ide cable it is
[03:37] <g14> What is the debian equivalent of init 1 and then init 5?
[03:37] <CarlK> trying to install (so build unless someone knows of a .deb) http://synergy2.sourceforge.net and it needs "X11R4 or up headers and libraries" - what do I apt-get?
[03:37] <bob2> wastrel: run "sudo iwconfig eth1 essid blah", where eth1 is the wireless interface and blah is the ssid
[03:37] <tga> g14: what is that supposed to do? why not just reboot?
[03:37] <g14> tga: to keep the uptime
[03:37] <bob2> g14: 1 is single user in Debian
[03:38] <GhostFreeman> how do I install fglrx
[03:38] <bob2> g14: please don't tell me you're installing nvidia drivers
[03:38] <bob2> GhostFreeman: wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:38] <hybrid_goth> tritium: thats how many times the root question has been asked
[03:38] <Kallus> I tried to remove ubuntur from my computer by deleting its partition with Partition Magic. Now, when I start up my computer, it tells me GRUB error 22. What do I do?
[03:38] <bob2> GhostFreeman: pretty sure that's in the FAQ
[03:38] <bob2> CarlK: install build-essential and xlibs-dev
[03:38] <g14> bob2: No, I was playing with xdamage and xcomposite and cvs xorg
[03:38] <gepp1> How can I fix the whole "Evolution being slow" thing?
[03:38] <tritium> hybrid_goth, ah, okay.  Yes, it has been asked many times...
[03:38] <g14> bob2: I don't want to reboot but need to kill and restart everything
[03:38] <GhostFreeman> trying to upgrade my ATI drivers and I'm getting all kinds of hell
[03:38] <bob2> Kallus: reinstall a bootloader
[03:38] <tga> gepp1: by getting a better machine?
[03:38] <g14> I'm still not familar with the BSD init
[03:38] <bob2> GhostFreeman: read that page then
[03:38] <CarlK> bob2- thanks
[03:38] <Kallus> how'd i do that?
[03:39] <bob2> g14: er, it's sysv, not bsd init
[03:39] <wastrel> bob2 nothing happens
[03:39] <bob2> g14: if you want to kill everything, go to level 1
[03:39] <gepp1> tga: My machine is fast enough, thanks.  Evolution is _slow_ on my box;  everything else runs perfectly.
[03:39] <bob2> wastrel: indeed. now run "sudo dhclient eth1" (assuming eth1 is your wireless nic)
[03:39] <bob2> gepp1: you're using hoary, right?
[03:39] <gepp1> bob2: Right.
[03:39] <tritium> g14, you can sudo telinit 1, and then when it asks, I believe it's Ctrl-D to return to runlevel 2 (it'll ask you)
[03:39] <g14> bob2: So init 1 and then init 2 will work?
[03:40] <bob2> g14: guess so
[03:40] <g14> tritium, I am familar with runlevels since the redhat 5 days :)
[03:40] <g14> ok thanks guys
[03:40] <bob2> but saving your uptime is kinda silly
[03:40] <g14> bob2, No, I have a bet going on
[03:40] <tritium> g14, okay, but debian derivatives don't use runlevel 5, for example.
[03:40] <Kallus> bob2: How do I reinstall a bootloader? Do I download grub onto a disk and boot from it?
[03:40] <bob2> Kallus: no
[03:40] <wastrel> looks like it's not getting a resp from dhcp server
[03:40] <bob2> Kallus: you use whatever OS you have on there now to create it
[03:40] <bob2> wastrel: this is an open ap, right?
[03:41] <Kallus> bob2: so if i wanna boot to winxp, how would i do that without grub giving me errors?
[03:41] <Deffie> anyone tried openoffice2 ?
[03:41] <Kallus> how would i just remove grub from the boot list.
[03:42] <bob2> Kallus: you boot to xp and install it's bootloader
[03:42] <bob2> Kallus: if you don't have a windows boot disk, well that was silly
[03:42] <CarlK> Deffie - I used have been using OO 2 for a few months - so far no problems
[03:42] <^thehatsrule^> Kallus, you can use the windows recovery on the cd
[03:42] <bob2> perhaps hitting "escape" during the boot at the right time and selecting windows from the grub menu will work
[03:44] <nub_away> ahhhh   - got it - VNC in ubuntu is listed as 'vino' (the gnome version)
[03:44] <hybrid_goth> i just did a smbtree and found the host name of the computer i want to connect to now how do i connect?
[03:44] <hybrid_goth> or get the files rather
[03:45] <Deffie> CarlK good, i'm not an advanced user of the office suite but i installed ubuntu to a friend which decided to leave windows and since he told me that OO 1 misses some functionalities of ms office suite i thought to try OO2, is it having new functionalities ?
[03:45] <gepp1> hybrid_goth: Nautilus smb://user ?
[03:45] <ghostfreeman> I need some serious help
[03:45] <ghostfreeman> I screwed up xorg (again) and now I can't get into GNOME
[03:46] <bob2> why did you modify the config at all?
[03:46] <ghostfreeman> I was trying to install the new ATI drivers
[03:46] <ghostfreeman> and on first attempt they didnt compile right
[03:46] <bob2> lordy
[03:46] <bob2> read the how to I gave you
[03:47] <hybrid_goth> gepp1: i have the name of the computer and it shows the file is shared so how do i get to it? it is on my network
[03:47] <kyncani> ghostfreeman: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:47] <bob2> that won't help
[03:47] <gepp1> hybrid_goth: Did you try using nautilus to go to "smb://thenameofthecomputerthatyoufound"?
[03:47] <hybrid_goth> yes
[03:47] <bob2> if you've mucked up the config, dpkg will refuse to touch it
[03:47] <ghostfreeman> why is it so hard for universe to update the drivers
[03:47] <hybrid_goth> h/o ill try again
[03:48] <kyncani> bob2: dpkg will overwrite the config, without even looking at it
[03:48] <bob2> no, it won't
[03:48] <bob2> ghostfreeman: that's not what universe is for
[03:48] <waterbeetle> ghostfreeman, can you enter the command prompt?
[03:49] <wastrel_> so ideally i would be able to just use a nice GUI to manage my wireless.  is there something i can install?
[03:49] <bob2> ghostfreeman: why do you want the ones that came out yesterday?
[03:49] <ghostfreeman> yes, I cna
[03:49] <hybrid_goth> grepp1: got it ty
[03:49] <ghostfreeman> glitching in game
[03:49] <bob2> wastrel: so, did you try what I suggested or not?
[03:49] <waterbeetle> ghostfreeman, use view (or vi, a text editor) to manipulate your xorg file
[03:49] <ghostfreeman> and change what settings?
[03:50] <wastrel_> bob2:  yes it seemed to connect but i couldnt tell because my routing table got screwed up & i coldn't get out to the net at all.
[03:50] <g14> wastrel_: try wifi radar
[03:50] <wastrel_> this is the same machine as i'm typing on atm.
[03:50] <wastrel_> got it plugged in to ethernet atm
[03:50] <bob2> wastrel_: lordy
[03:50] <bob2> wastrel_: dhclient will wipe out the routing table
[03:50] <waterbeetle> ghostfreeman, before you do, what is the error message?
[03:50] <bob2> wastrel_: so, did it work or not?
[03:51] <bob2> wastrel_: the point of doing this is to establish where the problem is
[03:51] <ghostfreeman> it says X server couldn't be started. I didn't write the message down
[03:51] <wastrel_> well i couldn't get to the net at all.
[03:51] <nub_away> ok now my next question regarding VNC - I have the vino server configured in gnome now, but it requires me to have a session (gnome) started before I can connect - how can I set it up to run at boot without the fuss of loging into a gnome session on the local machine FIRST?
[03:51] <wastrel_> ah right you're not a mind reader.  i should say i can get online with my AP at home.
[03:51] <bob2> wastrel_: was it an open ap or not?
[03:51] <Mez> *sighs*
[03:51] <wastrel_> so the hardware and drivers are functional
[03:51] <Mez> can anyone here help me with wine errors
[03:52] <nubious> does anyone know if I can do that with vino, or do I need the actual vncserver ?
[03:52] <wastrel_> bob2 i'm told it's an open ap but didn't want to reboot to check w/ 'doze
[03:52] <bob2> wastrel_: that should have been part of your initial question
[03:52] <waterbeetle> ghost, go to /etc/X11
[03:52] <wastrel_> bob2 i also have an ap with a wep key and a password that i can try
[03:52] <ajmitch_> afternoon bob2 :)
[03:52] <ghostfreeman> I can't while running irssi, can I?
[03:52] <wastrel_> but don't see anywhere to put this info in the gnome network admin gui
[03:52] <waterbeetle> there should be a log file, it tells what the error is
[03:52] <ghostfreeman> ok
[03:53] <gepp1> nubious: As far as I know, that's not possible.
[03:53] <goldfish> try reconfiguring X server?
[03:53] <nubious> gepp1: hmm..  I've heard differently from people.. I'll poke around some more..
[03:53] <ghostfreeman> should the log file say best how to fix it? or should I write it down and come back here?
[03:53] <waterbeetle> also there should be your old xorg.conf file
[03:53] <nubious> gepp1: not neccessarily with vino persay, but with vncserver in general...  but yeah.. you could very well be right
[03:53] <bob2> ajmitch_: aloha
[03:53] <gepp1> nubious: http://www.uk.research.att.com/archive/vnc/howitworks.html
[03:54] <ghostfreeman> ok
[03:54] <nubious> gepp1: what would you pose as an alternative to vnc then for remote control of a gnome session?
[03:54] <Deffie> i'm having a problem with an epson stylus color 640...it prints grey instead of black...
[03:54] <nubious> gepp1: there a 'remote gnome' prog out there somewhere?
[03:54] <gepp1> nubious: remote control for a gnome session?
[03:54] <nubious> well
[03:54] <gepp1> nubious: Oh, vnc.
[03:54] <nubious> my setup goes like this
[03:54] <waterbeetle> if you see your old xorg.conf and just want to change back to that I can help you do that...
[03:54] <nubious> I have a windows machine
[03:54] <gepp1> nubious: I thought you were saying before you logged into X.
[03:54] <gepp1> nubious: Sorry.
[03:54] <ghostfreeman> what's the command to copy over the backup xorg file?
[03:54] <nubious> well
[03:54] <nubious> I mean, I'd LIKE to not have to login to X
[03:54] <nubious> (on the local machine)
[03:54] <geppy> nubious: ssh is fun
[03:55] <nubious> just start up a session via my windows machine
[03:55] <nubious> I have that setup too
[03:55] <nubious> I mean I guess it's not that big a deal
[03:55] <nubious> here's what I would like to accomplish though
[03:55] <nubious> if my girlfriend is playing games in gnome
[03:55] <geppy> nubious: Sorry to ask the obvious, but why not use ssh to start up vnc when you need it?
[03:55] <nubious> Iw ant to be able to have a seperate gnome session on my machine that I can control - my gf would be sitting on the local machine tho
[03:55] <geppy> nubious: You could have a second X server, if that's what you're wanting.
[03:55] <waterbeetle> hmmm.. I don't know that command either.. I'm a newb...  but I would open it with vi xorg(oldfilename)
[03:56] <nubious> geppy: I didn't realise that was an option..  see from what I understand, 'vino' autostarts with gnome..  how do I setup a second x server?
[03:56] <geppy> nubious: startx -- :2
[03:56] <ghostfreeman> and save it as the exsisting xorg file?
[03:56] <nubious> cool
[03:56] <nubious> I'll check that out
[03:56] <nubious> one sec
[03:56] <waterbeetle> then I would use the command :w xorg.conf
[03:56] <waterbeetle> yup
[03:56] <ChrisC_> howdy folks ... what command-line apt command do I use to see what version of a package is installed?
[03:56] <ghostfreeman> ok. I'll do that.
[03:56] <waterbeetle> then :q (quit out of there)
[03:56] <nub_brb> just checking the man
[03:56] <waterbeetle> :)
[03:56] <geppy> chrisc_: apt-cache policy foo
[03:56] <elfowl> I can't even find my floppy, where do I look for my devices?  please
[03:56] <ghostfreeman> Thank you. I'll be back shortly in GNOME (hopefully)
[03:56] <geppy> ChrisC_: or 'dpkg -l  | grep foo'
[03:57] <ChrisC_> geppy: thanks, that worked!
[03:57] <waterbeetle> no prob
[03:57] <geppy> ChrisC_: You're welcome. :)
[03:57] <alexander_> elfowl: click Places on the system bar, then Computer, that's where my floppy is anyhow
[03:57] <geppy> Am I the only person who feels that evolution is incredibly slow?  If I give one of my contacts a picture, it takes a good fifteen seconds to _start_ drawing the contact list, and that's with just _one_ contact image... which isn't even drawn to the screen!
[03:59] <hybrid_goth> geppy: i unistalled it evolution sux
[03:59] <elfowl> alexander_, tks , i'm coming from mdk and a little lost aty present
[03:59] <hybrid_goth> geppy: thunderbird
[03:59] <geppy> hybrid_goth: Thank you for that insight.
[03:59] <wastrel_> k thx bye
[03:59] <dip> im confused about star wars, the order is 4,5,6 and then 1,2 came out now ending with episode 3?
[03:59] <hybrid_goth> geppy: anytime
[03:59] <geppy> hybrid_goth: haha
[03:59] <alexander_> elfowl: ahh, no problem, I actually finished my install about 10 minutes ago, you wouldn't happen to know why I can't find my 2nd hard drive?
[04:00] <hybrid_goth> :D
[04:00] <dingo> is it possible to set up Gnome so that what currently is the desktop is different for each workspace ??
[04:00] <alexander_> or anyone for that matter, anyone know where to find my second physical volume?
[04:00] <alexander_> not in /mnt, which is where I've had luck in the past
[04:01] <poningru> hi gotta question about adding an application under my internet menu
[04:01] <poningru> how do you add something?
[04:01] <ghostfreeman> No luck on backup, but I got the errors logged
[04:01] <alexander_> dingo: I've done it in other distros, but I haven't tried it in ubuntu yet
[04:01] <ghostfreeman> (EE) Failed to load module
[04:01] <poningru> ok well I will be back in a sec
[04:01] <alexander_> dingo: probably
[04:01] <ghostfreeman> (EE) Failed to load module "xtt" (module does not exsist, 0)
[04:02] <poningru> hopefully someone has an answer for me
[04:02] <geppy> Hopefully someone has a logical reason why Evolution is so slow.
[04:02] <ghostfreeman> (EE) Failed to load module "fglrx" (module does not exsist, 0)
[04:02] <alexander_> lol, we have too many problems, not enough answers
[04:03] <ghostfreeman> I need these two modules, and I don't know where to get them
[04:03] <elfowl> alexander_, can't answer, I'm still on the live disc,  maybe thats why no floppy showing in Computer
[04:04] <shiv> please help
[04:04] <alexander_> well, my second physical volume is shown in the device manager
[04:04] <alexander_> so I know ubuntu sees it, now how can i get at it
[04:05] <shiv> I installed kubuntu yesterday, was able to run wireless internet fine on the 1st boot, after reboot I am not able to
[04:05] <shiv> it asks for admin privileges, bt I only get the splash screen on control center
[04:05] <shiv> I did what it says in the support forum but in vain
[04:06] <shiv> i reinstaled the system again today but am back to square 1 :9
[04:06] <alexander_> heh
[04:06] <ghostfreeman> i am screwed if i cant get back into GNOME
[04:06] <alexander_> i wish I could help
[04:07] <ghostfreeman> isnt there some way I can completely restore xorg to a point where I had no fglrx
[04:08] <dcraven> shiv: I have a feeling this control center you speak of is KDE specific.. Have you asked in #kubuntu?
[04:08] <gijosh> XMMS freezes everytime I try to play a .pls file.  It didn't happen before I upgraded to hoary.  Sometimes I can get it to play regular media files, but sometimes they freeze too.
[04:09] <g14> gijosh, just a thought, every played with beep media player?
[04:09] <phoenixp3k> Hi everyone!
[04:09] <gijosh> g14:  Nope.  I didn't even know it existed.  It supports .pls files?
[04:09] <dabaSlon> gijosh: whats teh output plugin set to?
[04:09] <phoenixp3k> I've got a problem and can't seem to set it right
[04:09] <ghostfreeman> beep media player is XMMS
[04:09] <g14> gijosh, It is identical to xmms except it is written in gtk2 and integrates much better with the gnome desktop
[04:09] <ghostfreeman> but its GTK2, you might have luck there
[04:09] <Dangly> is firefox 1.0.4 available for ubuntu?
[04:10] <g14> gijosh, beep media player is a rewrite of xmms. It's not really a fork anymore
[04:10] <shiv> ok let me try that
[04:10] <phoenixp3k> How can I make a user able to use sudo
[04:10] <Shamilton0360> wow.
[04:10] <Burgundavia> Dangly, the security stuff has not yet been backported
[04:10] <gijosh> dabaSlon:  How do I check that?
[04:10] <dabaSlon> Dangly: not really...I dont know why they locked teh extension for all previous versions...
[04:10] <Burgundavia> phoenixp3k, add them to the admin group
[04:10] <dingo> poningru, go to www.ubuntu-guide.org and find <How to install Menu Editor for GNOME?> with the editor you can change things..
[04:10] <dabaSlon> gijosh: through options preferences...
[04:10] <phoenixp3k> Burgundavia, can't access it, it asks for the root password, but it doesn't work
[04:10] <Shamilton0360> just spent 4 hrs trying to instal vectorlinux gave up and threw in an ubunu cd, seems to be working nice, looks good too.
[04:11] <Burgundavia> phoenixp3k, have you read www.ubuntu.com/wiki/RootSudo
[04:11] <Shamilton0360> ubuntu*
[04:11] <dabaSlon> gijosh: try changing it to esoudn, if it is not already, although, .pls may still not work, but it should at least play media files.
[04:11] <poningru> dingo thank you
[04:11] <gijosh> dabaSlon: thanks.  g14: If I don't get xmms working, I'll check out beep media player
[04:11] <phoenixp3k> Burgundavia, not that again... I've read it. It doesn't help, doesn't tell me how to access admin configuration tools
[04:12] <Burgundavia> phoenixp3k, you need to edit the user in system-->admin-->users and groups
[04:12] <g14> gijosh, beep is just a prettier xmms that fits into ubuntu better thats all. Good luck with your problem
[04:12] <gijosh> g14:  Thanks man
[04:12] <g14> gijosh, np
[04:13] <gijosh> dabaSlon: Woohoo.  Got sound on xmms.
[04:13] <dabaSlon> gijosh: excellent:)
[04:13] <gijosh> on a .pls playlist.
[04:13] <dabaSlon> even better.
[04:13] <gijosh> hehe
[04:13] <dabaSlon> the excellent is a ripoff of one of the guys tha comes here...
[04:13] <phoenixp3k> Burgundavia, yes I want to do that, but when I click on it, I asks for the root password, and refuses it.
[04:14] <dabaSlon> phoenixp3k: do you try your passwords?
[04:14] <alexander_> anyone know if ubuntu has problems w/ NTFS?
[04:14] <dabaSlon> no s.
[04:14] <Thirsteh> I knew I shouldn't have RAR'ed it -.-, all my backup data was rar'ed, and unrar doesn't seem to be able to understand it's supposed to create missing directories while extracing
[04:14] <dabaSlon> alexander_: I do not think so...
[04:14] <Thirsteh> alexander_, all Linux distros have, it's not fully supported yet, it's possible to both read/write, but it's not 100% safe
[04:14] <gijosh> alexsander:  It's had great read support for ntfs for me.  though I haven't needed it in a long time since I don't have windows anymore
[04:14] <dabaSlon> alexander_: are you tryuing to mount a ntfs partition, or a hard?
[04:14] <alexander_> trying to locate and load files of an NTFS volume
[04:14] <alexander_> second physical drive
[04:15] <dabaSlon> like just read from the drive?
[04:15] <alexander_> ya
[04:15] <phoenixp3k> dabaSlon, I've manage to enable the root account
[04:15] <dabaSlon> do sudo fdisk -l
[04:15] <phoenixp3k> I'll try to update the commun user that way
[04:15] <dabaSlon> phoenixp3k: excellent.
[04:15] <dabaSlon> to login, or just sudo?
[04:15] <ubuntu> Can I install ubuntu from the live  cd?
[04:15] <odyssey> ubuntu, no
[04:15] <goldfish> nope
[04:16] <ubuntu> shit
[04:16] <dabaSlon> I thought you couild...
[04:16] <dabaSlon> you guys positive?
[04:16] <goldfish> yus
[04:16] <phoenixp3k> dabaSlon, well under my common user it asks for the root password but always rejects it.
[04:16] <odyssey> yes
[04:16] <Nub> ok stupid question, i had to edit the source of a nic driver now i need to recompile the kernel with module suport
[04:16] <Nub> how do i go about doing that?
[04:16] <dabaSlon> ok, so you go to sudo, or whatever needs sudo in a gui, and asks you a password....it is really asking for your password...
[04:16] <Nub> i don't want to make config and go through the ENTIRE thing and fuck up my kernel
[04:17] <dabaSlon> Now, to be able to type in your apssword, and it accepts, you need to be added to the admin groups, as Burgundavia pointed out.
[04:17] <odyssey> dabaSlon, yes
[04:17] <Burgundavia> dabaSlon, he has left
[04:18] <dabaSlon> Burgundavia: well, he sure did, now, had I used nick completion...
[04:18] <Nub> is there anyway to recompile kernel without resetting all the options, i just want to change one
[04:18] <dabaSlon> Man, I gotta go post to a forum for school...
[04:18] <Burgundavia> dabaSlon, indeed
[04:19] <dabaSlon> I found out that I am not too bad at programming in Java after all...I worte a whole (totally simple though) class from school to home on the bus...
[04:19] <dabaSlon> but, still, no syntax errors..
[04:19] <Cocheese> hey kids
[04:19] <GhostFreeman> I just screwed up big time
[04:19] <phoenixp3k> nothing works
[04:19] <dabaSlon> yo coach...
[04:20] <MuStR> before I go search, anyone want to tell me how to make a .iso out of a cd?
[04:20] <MuStR> :x
[04:20] <GhostFreeman> I used dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to reset the xorg conf file
[04:20] <dabaSlon> not me..perhaps through gnomebaker.
[04:20] <dabaSlon> GhostFreeman: now, why'd you wanna go and do that?;)
[04:20] <dabaSlon> rhetorical, btw.
[04:20] <GhostFreeman> and I fooled around with one of the horizontal refresh rate, and now whenever it tries to boot my monitor rejects the refresh rate
[04:21] <Cocheese> Ghostfreeman reinstall windows
[04:21] <MuStR> lol!
[04:21] <GhostFreeman> I am in Windows
[04:21] <dabaSlon> so, reinstall.
[04:21] <MuStR> dabaSoln: you're right, bud. thanks
[04:21] <GhostFreeman> reinstall Ubuntu?
[04:21] <Cocheese> destroy everything
[04:21] <phoenixp3k> I just did
[04:21] <dabaSlon> MuStR: was, hey?
[04:21] <Cocheese> and start anew
[04:21] <GhostFreeman> I can't fix it from the command line or a LiveCD
[04:21] <MuStR> yeah haha
[04:21] <phoenixp3k> I won't do it a third time
[04:21] <MuStR> <3 laziness
[04:21] <dabaSlon> GhostFreeman: both of us dont know together.
[04:21] <phoenixp3k> phoenixp3k is not in the sudoers file.
[04:21] <phoenixp3k> I can't fix this
[04:21] <dabaSlon> did you have gnomebaker isntalled?
[04:22] <dabaSlon> ok, you can do a run around.
[04:22] <waterbeetle> :) back in gnome, eh?
[04:22] <phoenixp3k> I wouldn't know, Synaptic can't open
[04:22] <GhostFreeman> No, Windows
[04:22] <dabaSlon> do you know exact procedure for adding to sudoers file, by hand, by now, phoenix?
[04:22] <GhostFreeman> I really did it to xorg this time
[04:22] <waterbeetle> ah
[04:22] <MuStR> dabaSlon: yes.
[04:23] <dabaSlon> well, post a query for a xorg.conf that is correct?
[04:23] <dabaSlon> sweet, didnt think of that though?
[04:23] <dabaSlon> rhetoricakl again.
[04:23] <GhostFreeman> I changed the horizontal refresh rate from its default and now my monitor refuses the new settings
[04:23] <dabaSlon> well, change it back.?
[04:23] <phoenixp3k> Child terminated with 1 status, some info on that?
[04:23] <GhostFreeman> How?
[04:23] <GhostFreeman> I can't while im in Windows
[04:23] <GhostFreeman> ...can I?
[04:23] <MuStR> dabaSlon: I figured I'd check here first before actually looking (lazy)
[04:23] <dabaSlon> ok, well, you ever heard of alt+ctrl+fx, replace x with number?
[04:24] <dabaSlon> phoenixp3k: so all you wanna do is add yourself to sudoers, right? so you can open syunaptic, and such?
[04:24] <GhostFreeman> and this does what exactly?
[04:24] <agh> GhostFreeman: well, you might have to log into the text mode terminal and edit the file that way
[04:24] <Nub> somebody help me recompile my kernel with module suport please
[04:24] <waterbeetle> I too am interested in adding to sudoers ,dabaSlon
[04:24] <phoenixp3k> dabaSlon, can't because it asks for password, none work
[04:24] <dcraven> GhostFreeman: did you do the good ol' "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" dealy?
[04:25] <Burgundavia> phoenixp3k, the password you logged in with?
[04:25] <dabaSlon> GhostFreeman: it movesd you to a terminal that will not use x, so you can through command line change the x settings.
[04:25] <waterbeetle> same problem as phonixp3k
[04:25] <GhostFreeman> ok.
[04:25] <phoenixp3k> dabaSlon, I tried both root and the one of my current session
[04:25] <agh> phoenixp3k: the password is to confirm that you are actually you. it's your login password.
[04:25] <dabaSlon> alt+ctrl+f1 is the sfirst, suix of those until the f7 which is where your gnome session is.
[04:25] <Burgundavia> waterbeetle, see www.ubuntu.com/RootSudo , I just editted to make it more clear
[04:25] <Burgundavia> phoenixp3k, have you set a root password?
[04:25] <dcraven> Heya Burgundavia
[04:25] <phoenixp3k> yes
[04:25] <Burgundavia> salut dcraven
[04:25] <alexander_> dabaSlon: thank you so very much for pointing me in the right direction
[04:25] <GhostFreeman> any other options, like LiveCD perhaps
[04:25] <Burgundavia> phoenixp3k, all the gui tools are looking for your password
[04:25] <phoenixp3k> if I open a Terminal, I can du su
[04:26] <dcraven> GhostFreeman: Is the OS not bootable?
[04:26] <Nub> can anyone here me?
[04:26] <Burgundavia> phoenixp3k, I would disable it, as Ubuntu uses sudo for everything
[04:26] <GhostFreeman> its bootable
[04:26] <Burgundavia> Nub, what is your issue?
[04:26] <dabaSlon> alexander_: welcome.
[04:26] <Nub> Burgundavia, thank you
[04:26] <dcraven> GhostFreeman: Why the LiveCD then?
[04:26] <phoenixp3k> Burgundavia, how do I do that?
[04:26] <Burgundavia> phoenixp3k, see the bottom of the rootsudo page
[04:26] <GhostFreeman> but I never see the login/password prompt because my monitor warns me of the Hz rate issyes
[04:26] <Nub> Burgundavia, i need to recompile my kernel with module suport, only if i go through make config it will ask me for all the settings again
[04:27] <Nub> which i don't want it to do
[04:27] <MuStR> hm...anyone know how to get greek letters in gaim?
[04:27] <mischko> Installing ubuntu (5.04) on VMWare.  It doesn't detect any partitionalble media.
[04:27] <dabaSlon> GhostFreeman: boot up, and when it tries to go to x, you hit alt+ctrl+f1 and go to a terminal, fizx the file, reboot.
[04:27] <Burgundavia> Nub, why do you need to recompile your kernel?
[04:27] <GhostFreeman> ok
[04:27] <dcraven> GhostFreeman: Like dabaSlon said.
[04:27] <Nub> i had to edit a driver
[04:27] <GhostFreeman> I'll give that a shot, and if it dosen't work i'll come back here and cry about it
[04:27] <Burgundavia> Nub, what are you trying to get working/
[04:27] <Nub> tulip net driver
[04:27] <Nub> i changed it
[04:27] <dcraven> Nub: The config file for your running stock kernel is in /boot
[04:28] <dabaSlon> phoenixp3k: go and reboot, and when it asks you which session you want in grub, ask for a sagfe mode, that will log you in as root, and then you can go and add yourself to the file but first learn hoew to ad yourself...
[04:28] <dabaSlon> or. alternatively...
[04:28] <phoenixp3k> Burgundavia, done, do I have to restart of something? It's still not working
[04:28] <Nub> can i just vi that and not have to change all the other options?
[04:28] <dabaSlon> once you are logged in, type in, adduser admin yourUsername
[04:28] <phoenixp3k> Thats what I did
[04:28] <phoenixp3k> dabaSlon, when I reinstalled. I only placed root
[04:29] <Burgundavia> phoenixp3k, are you logging in as the user you created during install?
[04:29] <phoenixp3k> dabaSlon, then went in safe mode to add a user
[04:29] <dabaSlon> so you are now logged in with???
[04:29] <dcraven> Nub: You can copy it to your kernel source dir, then start from there. All defaults will be preselected.
[04:29] <phoenixp3k> adduser phoenixp3k and all
[04:29] <dabaSlon> ok, go back to safe mode, and adduser admin yourUsername, taht will add the group admin to taht usernam,e...
[04:29] <dabaSlon> let me dblcheck
[04:29] <Nub> dcraven, thank you
[04:29] <dcraven> Nub: copy it as /usr/src/kernel-source/.config... Whatever your kernel source dir is.
[04:30] <phoenixp3k> do I have to delete the current?
[04:30] <Burgundavia> phoenixp3k, did you choose expert install?
[04:30] <Nub> dcraven, that way can i just change a single option/
[04:30] <dabaSlon> sudo adduser userName admin
[04:30] <waterbeetle> I'm having the same prob as phoenixp3k, it says 'admin' user doesn't exist
[04:30] <phoenixp3k> not really, just went trought the process
[04:31] <dabaSlon> then it is your password that it is asking for.
[04:31] <dabaSlon> and you should be in the sudoers file.
[04:31] <Burgundavia> phoenixp3k, ok then, log in as the user that was created during the install
[04:31] <dcraven> Nub: If that's all you need, then yes. This assumes the same sources as your running kernel.
[04:31] <Burgundavia> phoenixp3k, that is not a root user
[04:31] <dabaSlon> waterbeetle: your problem being no user as a sudoer?
[04:31] <Nub> dcraven, great, thank you
[04:31] <waterbeetle> yes
[04:31] <dcraven> Nub: If you are going to compile a newer kernel that what that config was made from, do a "make oldconfig".
[04:31] <dcraven> Nub: np
[04:32] <Nub> dcraven, same kernel just changed driver
[04:32] <dabaSlon> well, reboot, safe mode, as root, adduser yourUsername admin
[04:32] <dcraven> Nub: You're golden then.
[04:32] <phoenixp3k> Burgundavia, well I'm logged
[04:33] <waterbeetle> it says the group 'admin' doesnt exist
[04:33] <waterbeetle> must create that group?
[04:33] <dabaSlon> phoenixp3k: if you do that, and if it is possible to get to root through safe mode, you will have taht user that you replace yourUsername with in the sudoers, if admin groups has sudo permisions.
[04:33] <dabaSlon> ah,,,so you are logged in as root now?
[04:33] <thechitowncubs> How can I uninstall a deb package that i didn't install through apt-get? I also don't have thet deb anymore
[04:33] <waterbeetle> dabaSlon, I'm logged in as root now
[04:34] <waterbeetle> in another screen
[04:34] <thechitowncubs> nvm, i realized synaptic can do it :)
[04:34] <dabaSlon> waterbeetle: just add yourself to the sudoers file then for now, then we wil ask Burgundavia how to add a group for sudoers
[04:34] <dabaSlon> ill get it for you  now.
[04:34] <GhostFreeman> yay GNOME
[04:34] <Burgundavia> dabaSlon, if he is running Hoary, sudoers in %admin%
[04:34] <waterbeetle> hehe
[04:35] <waterbeetle> Hoary here
[04:35] <waterbeetle> gotta go, back later
[04:35] <waterbeetle> :)
[04:35] <dabaSlon> http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#allowmoresudoers
[04:35] <GhostFreeman> Now time to actually install the ATI drivers
[04:35] <thechitowncubs> hey holycow
[04:35] <Burgundavia> dabaSlon, that is crack, please don't suggest taht
[04:35] <GhostFreeman> oh noes
[04:35] <nobile> *wave*
[04:36] <dabaSlon> its fine...what would you suggest, the admin group?
[04:36] <holycow> <-- running ubuntu live cd on friends gateway laptop with a huge lcd
[04:36] <holycow> damnit i love linux
[04:36] <holycow> :)
[04:36] <Burgundavia> dabaSlon, yes, it is better, no editing of sudoers
[04:36] <dabaSlon> well, there is no admin on my sudoers, and I am in hoary, although I upgraded, maybe that is why...
[04:36] <Burgundavia> dabaSlon, upgrades didn't get it
[04:37] <dabaSlon> well, tell us how to add the admin group, dont just say that it is there in hoary:)
[04:37] <dabaSlon> into the file, that is.
[04:38] <thechitowncubs> How can I remove a folder from the gnome menu that doesn't show up in Smeg?
[04:39] <dabaSlon> it will still be editing the file, though...
[04:40] <Razor-X> wow.... did I sleep
[04:40] <dabaSlon> yes.
[04:40] <Razor-X> guess being sick makes you sleep that long.....
[04:40] <dabaSlon> guess...
[04:41] <Razor-X> dabaSlon: you use a trackball?
[04:41] <dabaSlon> why? no...
[04:41] <Razor-X> oh, ok
[04:41] <Razor-X> just asking for feedback from trackball users
[04:41] <thechitowncubs> the firefox on my other ubuntu client always comes up with that firefox profile window, are there any fixes for that?
[04:42] <dabaSlon> change home page?
[04:43] <dabaSlon> so....
[04:43] <dabaSlon> I guess that means windows/...G?
[04:43] <greg> hi guys i did a doggy reinstall of ubuntu over a debian i kept the /home partitoin form debian its all working fine excpept that i would like to import the users from debian to ubuntu witch files should i copy ? i have a ssaved of my debian etc
[04:43] <MrKeuner> Any ubuntulinux people here? bittorrent tracker is still down.
[04:44] <Burgundavia> MrKeuner, you might want to talk about that in #ubuntu-devel
[04:44] <holycow> bbl
[04:44] <vboxw> anyone got a bootable floppy to work?
[04:45] <Razor-X> like I said, I think we should make a magnet link of the Ubuntu torren
[04:45] <MrKeuner> ok
[04:46] <vboxw> trying to find the stage1 and stage2 files online - needed for making bootable floppy - anyone?
[04:46] <dabaSlon> bootable what, so it redrects to the cd?
[04:46] <Razor-X> a GRUB boot floppy?
[04:46] <vboxw> yes -
[04:47] <Razor-X> did you just install Ubuntu?
[04:47] <Razor-X> I can guide you through a GRUB boot floppy pretty easy
[04:47] <vboxw> not yet - cannot boot from cd
[04:47] <dabaSlon> razor...
[04:47] <dabaSlon> :)]
[04:47] <vboxw> the docs say I need the stage1 and stage2 files
[04:47] <dabaSlon> which one is the exit?
[04:47] <dabaSlon> :p
[04:48] <Razor-X> well, you need a working install of GRUB
[04:48] <Gnimsh> hello everyone
[04:48] <Razor-X> you can't boot the CD, huh?
[04:48] <dabaSlon> stage on and two grub, that soubnds all right/
[04:48] <dabaSlon> yo gnimsh
[04:48] <vboxw> are they available online?
[04:49] <Razor-X> vobxw: I don't think so
[04:49] <nub_afk> how do I kill a startx session when it's giving me this error: connection to :2 refused - no protocol specified
[04:49] <Razor-X> oh, well, hold that thought if you need me... my dad is home... buh bye
[04:50] <vboxw> razor-X: I presume they are part of the ubuntu and not just GRUB ?
[04:50] <alexander_> has anyone a quick link to help solve audigy 2 "no sound" issues, I've been playing w/ settings and having no luck
[04:51] <dabaSlon> alexander_: yes, something about muting a 1958 something in alsamixer, and unmuting other entries.
[04:52] <dabaSlon> alsamixer in a terminal will open a new mixer monitor, where m mutes/unmutes, and up down increase decrease volume...
[04:52] <Gnimsh> ok I have a question, I've just installed ubuntu, and this is my first time running linux
[04:52] <dabaSlon> welcome
[04:52] <Gnimsh> lots of simple problems really...I've dled tightVNC, but I have no idea how to install it
[04:53] <dabaSlon> thats just one...:-p
[04:53] <dabaSlon> You can make a forum entry with all your issues, relevant pastes, and such and give us the URL>
[04:54] <IIIEars> Gnimish - Welcome!   (i am new also)
[04:54] <vboxw> could someone zip or tar the stage1 and stage2 files from /boot/grub and e-mail them to me?
[04:54] <^thehatsrule^> lol...
[04:54] <dabaSlon> hey, IIIEarswhat was up with today coming in and saying that you just installed your first ubuntu?
[04:54] <Gnimsh> If I want to access any files that I have shared from my windows machine, they need to be on a fat32 drive, yes?
[04:54] <wsmith> Can I apt-get dist-upgrade from warty to hoary?
[04:54] <GhostFreeman> Whatever I did has done some damage
[04:55] <alexander_> AHHHHHHHH
[04:55] <natex> Gnimsh, you can access NTFS Filesystems, but they are only readable, not writable.
[04:55] <MuStR> does anyone know how to get greek fonts in gaim?
[04:55] <alexander_> sound how wnderful
[04:55] <MuStR> :[
[04:55] <dabaSlon> wsmith: yes, remember to remove all non ubuntu repositories from sources, and remember to remove backports as well.
[04:55] <IIIEars> gnimish that is the easiest way (no fiddling) Ubuntu supports NTFS volumes though.
[04:55] <vboxw> Gnimsh:  if you are using SAMBA they can be on any file sys.
[04:55] <dabaSlon> alexander_: with that little advice???????
[04:55] <wsmith> dabaSlon, does that include universal?
[04:55] <alexander_> dabaSlon: someone should get you a beer, or cola
[04:55] <dabaSlon> or something else?
[04:55] <alexander_> yes indeeddy
[04:55] <GhostFreeman> Where can I get the fglrx module
[04:56] <MuStR> natex: do you know offhand what filesystems can be written with linux?
[04:56] <dabaSlon> unuiverse is fine, I think...
[04:56] <dabaSlon> alexander_: your pretty good there...
[04:56] <alexander_> thanks
[04:56] <dabaSlon> yup.
[04:56] <Gnimsh> matex, vboxw, how do I dothat?
[04:56] <gbic> GhostFreeman: apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[04:56] <alexander_> obiously, you of the two of us are the good one, however
[04:56] <vboxw> MuStR: many, is there one you need?
[04:56] <dabaSlon> alexander_: hope this dont offend you....I dont need one right now, I am about to blaze...:(
[04:56] <GhostFreeman> i've done that
[04:56] <natex> Gnimsh, as vboxw said, ntfs is writeable if using samba
[04:56] <GhostFreeman> and configured xorf
[04:56] <GhostFreeman> xorg*
[04:57] <gbic> did you reboot?
[04:57] <GhostFreeman> and restarted the system, and it tells me its not there
[04:57] <gbic> try glrxgears
[04:57] <alexander_> dabaSlon: no worries buddy, lol
[04:57] <gbic> hmm
[04:57] <vboxw> Gnimsh:  do you have samba server installed?
[04:57] <Gnimsh> no
[04:57] <gbic>    3.
[04:57] <gbic>       Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change "ati" to "fglrx", perhaps with a command like: sudo sed -i -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' /etc/X11/xorg.conf. Alternatively, just use your favourite text editor, or use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and select "fglrx" instead of "ati".
[04:57] <Gnimsh> so I install samba on the windows box
[04:57] <GhostFreeman> did that
[04:57] <MuStR> vboxw: no, but my file store drive is NFTS, and I could convert it if there is a filesystem that is writable by both windows and linux
[04:57] <gbic> which card?
[04:57] <GhostFreeman> that's how I got it to tell me fglrx is gone
[04:57] <GhostFreeman> 9800XT
[04:58] <natex> Gnimsh, I assume you are talking about 2 computers? one Ubuntu, one Windows?
[04:58] <GhostFreeman> I removed fglrx from synaptic by accident, that's probably why I got this happening
[04:58] <gbic> ahh
[04:58] <vboxw> Gnimsh:  ah, is the drive on the same PC as linux?
[04:58] <GhostFreeman> and I can't redownload it from Synaptic :(
[04:58] <gbic> cant help ya mate
[04:58] <gbic> I just installed this OS like 10 minutes ago
[04:58] <gbic> hehe
[04:58] <GhostFreeman> damn
[04:58] <gbic> mine worked fine
[04:58] <MuStR> lol
[04:59] <natex> MuStR, FAT filesystems are writeable by both OSs
[04:59] <IIIEars> Ubuntu - is great! :)
[04:59] <gbic> nice release I must say
[04:59] <MuStR> excellent.
[04:59] <gbic> Im liking this already
[04:59] <gbic> no hardware issues
[04:59] <gbic> :)
[04:59] <Gnimsh> yes natex:  my lappy is linux, desktop is windows
[04:59] <GhostFreeman> I dont know what to do now
[04:59] <Gnimsh> no vboxw
[04:59] <nubuntious> oh cool
[04:59] <nubuntious> x chat is neato
[04:59] <Gnimsh> sorry for late responses people,I'm getting used to xchat still
[04:59] <GhostFreeman> except bash my computer with a stick
[05:00] <dabaSlon> GhostFreeman: can you back up data reinstall?
[05:00] <wsmith> dabaSlon, like linking /dists/hoary to /dists/latest-release
[05:00] <GhostFreeman> tried that
[05:00] <wsmith> and then doing the same when the next release comes out.
[05:00] <GhostFreeman> or tbh, I can't
[05:00] <dabaSlon> like, jsut automatic upgrade when it is released?
[05:00] <dabaSlon> jsut dont evenm change the names of the distro?
[05:00] <IIIEars> gbic - check out "streamtuner" for internet radio. - it can be easily configured to record streams to mp3 files.
[05:00] <darkaudit> any hoary-security folks: is the plan for firefox to keep the ver # at 1.0.2 and just add a -# at the end when a new security hole is fixed?
[05:00] <natex> Gnimsh, ok. no problem. Windows uses SMBFS to share files. Linux can mount these over a network with Samba.
[05:01] <vboxw> Gnimsh:  not too sure about ubuntu, but you can d/l samba package - it has a nice web admin too to share drives on linux to windows - and smbmount to mount shared drives on windows boxs on your linux machine
[05:01] <dabaSlon> darkaudit: I have .3 installed, .4 wont installl
[05:01] <GhostFreeman> im just going to remove all the xorg ati drivers and reinstall
[05:01] <natex> vboxw, does he even need the full samba server.... just smbfs support yes?
[05:01] <Gnimsh> So I install samba in linux and it handles the connection between the 2 oses?
[05:01] <wsmith> dabaSlon, No, change the name, just keep a symlink up to date so people can put that in their sources.list. Similar to the way debian does "stable" and "unstable"
[05:01] <GhostFreeman> if that dosent fix it i'll go post on the forums for help
[05:01] <dabaSlon> i dont get it, it i beyond me, and Im high...
[05:01] <Burgundavia> dark, the stuff will be backported to 1.0.2