[03:15] <zztopless> Afternoon all... Does anyone know what might cause the 'Dimensions', 'Width' and 'Height' columns (in details view) to be empty?
[03:17] <zztopless> The correct resolution does display in the details panel.
[03:29] <zztopless> I swear I remember it working, could be wrong (at least since switching to 23.04)...
[05:26] <zztopless> .j #kubuntu-offline
[05:26] <zztopless> woopsie
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[08:58] <pickanick> what is the keyboard shortcut for opening the hamburger menu and how do I find it in Shortcuts?
[08:59] <pickanick> What's the action called? Searching for hamburger does not find a match in Shortcuts
[09:15] <weedmic> do you the hamburger key to the left of the HOST (right ctrl) button?
[10:25] <mparillo> I think on most keyboards, the hamburger key to the right of the ctrl key is equivalent to a right-click. I think the question was around the hamburger menu on (say) Dolphin or Falkon.
[10:31] <weedmic> the hamburger button on my keyboard operates the hamburger icon in dolphin.  it is the button between the right fn and host (rt ctrl) on my keyboard.
[11:53] <kirvesAxe> pickanick, try looking for a shortcut to "menu" and see which menushortcuts there are and see if some of them is the right menu :)
[11:53] <kirvesAxe> context menu, menu bar...etc
[11:59] <pickanick> weedmic:  mparillo: yes I meant the menu icon on Firefox, Konversation, System Settings, System Monitor, Dolphin, Okular, ...
[12:02] <pickanick> I am unsuccessful at persuading Google to give up this secret.
[12:12] <weedmic> but I told him where the button was - i should have posted a pic :(
[12:12] <weedmic> what is the real name for the "hamburger" menu icon/button?
[12:24] <pickanick> System Settings : Shortcuts only offers two shortcuts when i search for menu.
[12:25] <pickanick> kirvesAxe: yes, I tried that, but System Settings : Shortcuts only offers two shortcuts when i search for menu.
[12:34] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[13:06] <pickanick> Anyone use Anker A7726 bluetooth keyboard with Kubuntu? I can get it to pair but it seems KDE only allows for one keyboard layout at a time, and Alt-Tab on the Anker does not switch windows, none of the other modifier  involved keystrokes have a response.
[14:09] <kirvesAxe> pickanick, so I guess there is non system-wide hotkey for that menu, you should check if firefox, konversation etc have their own hotkeys for it or not.


[02:07] <ahoneybun> hey mhall119
[02:13] <mhall119> hey ahoneybun
[02:13] <mhall119> I forgot the meeting again didn't I?
[02:13] <ahoneybun> Maybe I did too idk
[02:14] <mhall119> looks like everyone did, not many people here
[02:14] <mhall119> ahoneybun: did you have any topics you wanted to bring up?
[02:15] <ahoneybun> I was wondering how the planning was going for a release party for 14.04
[02:16] <mhall119> ahoneybun: well Michelle and I discussed trying to have a get-together in Orlando
[02:16] <mhall119> in a restaurant or some space we can setup laptops and hang out
[02:16] <ahoneybun> could I get you thoughts on some artwork?
[02:16] <mhall119> sure
[02:16] <ahoneybun> http://imgur.com/2mRedtA
[02:17]  * mhall119 realizes he doesn't actually know what a tahr looks like
[02:18] <mhall119> looks good though
[02:18] <ahoneybun> thanks ll
[02:18] <ahoneybun> *lol
[02:18] <mhall119> kind of reminds me of the Xubuntu styling in it's minimalism
[02:18] <ahoneybun> I was going for the 13.04 ringtail style
[02:18] <ahoneybun> http://www.google.com/imgres?client=firefox-a&hs=AH1&sa=X&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=sb&biw=1920&bih=952&tbm=isch&tbnid=dlpY3MpWHN_5DM%3A&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.omgubuntu.co.uk%2F2013%2F04%2Fubuntu-13-04-beta-released&docid=xRGZRD0T-s2aiM&imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.omgubuntu.co.uk%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F10%2F13.04-tile.jpg&w=350&h=200&ei=AzgVU4TQBsijkQfFiIHYCA&zoom=1&ved=0CGwQhBwwCA&iact=rc&dur=487&page=1&start=0&
[02:18] <ahoneybun> ndsp=32
[02:18] <ahoneybun> wow
[02:19] <ahoneybun> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/13.04-tile.jpg
[02:19] <mhall119> gotta love google
[02:19] <ahoneybun> sorry
[02:19] <mhall119> yeah, I can see it
[02:19] <mhall119> yours doesn't really have anything that shouts "Kubuntu" to me though
[02:19] <mhall119> visually
[02:19] <ahoneybun> yea
[02:19] <mhall119> I mean, there's the huge work "Kubuntu" right there
[02:20] <mhall119> is there any KDE brand styling that could be worked in?
[02:20] <mhall119> like Ubuntu has the dot patterns and "folded paper" style
[02:20] <ahoneybun> maybe use kde oxygen font
[02:21] <ahoneybun> but kubuntu likes to stick to its ubuntu parent in a few things
[02:23] <mhall119> so I've noticed these circle patterns in the background of both kde.org and kubuntu.org, maybe incorporating something like that?
[02:23] <ahoneybun> I could try
[02:38] <ahoneybun> http://imgur.com/ifYr1Ik
[04:10] <ShawnR> for ease of remembering what hardware specs you have on what machine, does anyone know of a good command/program that displays the hardware (cpu/mobo/video card/memory/etc) without too much extra stuff (not heavy details, just a list of what I got)?  lshw/lspci, dmidecode and the ilk are a little too heavy for just a brief overview
[04:10] <ShawnR> I saw some that supported html output... anyone have experience with those? any good?
[04:11] <ShawnR> p.s. this is a headless server, so i'm looking for CLI or html output (no X/gtk/qt gui)
[23:42] <ahoneybun_> mhall119, could I maybe help on the team portal page?


[00:03] <popey> robert_ancell_ where do the interface names come from in system settings -> apps? Some have full text descriptions, others like audio-playback and kvm do not.
[00:03] <popey> (good morning)
[00:17] <robert_ancell>  popey, they are in panels/applications/cc-snap-row.c in gnome-control-center. The descriptions were written by mpt and others in a spreadsheet. Interfaces that are new a likely to be missing descriptions.
[00:17] <popey> where should a bug be filed?
[00:17] <popey> because it looks a bit bad having no descriptions
[00:17] <robert_ancell> snapd provides some description text, but it is not translatable and not necessarily appropriate to show in a graphical UI.
[00:17] <robert_ancell> popey, against g-c-c and assign to me.
[00:17] <popey> kk
[00:17] <popey> will do in the morning, thanks
[00:17] <robert_ancell> np
[00:21] <xnox> kenvandine:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/snap-store/+bug/1867565 =)
[00:21] <xnox> please =)
[06:31] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[06:31] <jibel> Morning every one
[06:33] <oSoMoN> salut jibel, ça va?
[06:35] <pavlushka> duflu: ping
[06:35] <duflu> pavlushka, pong
[06:35] <duflu> Morning pavlushka, oSoMoN and jibel
[06:36] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[06:37] <pavlushka> duflu: I was unable to reproduce those bugs (seems like was a one time issue), totem is launching ok :( (bad & good news)
[06:38] <duflu> pavlushka, which bug(s)?
[06:39] <pavlushka> duflu: 1865896 (totem) + 1866550, 1866551, 1866552
[06:40] <jibel> bonjour oSoMoN, ça va et toi?
[06:41] <jibel> je me prépare pour faire l'école à la maison
[06:43] <oSoMoN> jibel, ça va, on est confinés mais avec un jardin dans une zone tranquille on n’est pas à plaindre
[06:43] <duflu> pavlushka, no problem, thanks. Those will all automatically close in 55 days unless there's any change to them
[06:44] <jibel> oSoMoN, same here, with the difference of the usual rainy weather we cannot really enjoy the garden
[06:46] <pavlushka> duflu: moin
[06:47]  * pavlushka seems like he is learning and did something backwards
[06:49] <duflu> Bugs are free. Make as many as you like
[06:49] <duflu> Or report, not make
[07:23] <didrocks> good morning
[07:24] <duflu> Morning didrocks
[07:32] <seb128> goood morning desktopers
[07:32] <duflu> Hi seb128
[07:32] <seb128> hey duflu, how are you? had a good w.e?
[07:32] <oSoMoN> salut seb128
[07:32] <seb128> lut oSoMoN, en forme ?
[07:32] <duflu> seb128, tired and meh. I am half way through 14 days of self-imposed isolation
[07:33] <oSoMoN> seb128, ça va, tout le monde dort encore :) et toi?
[07:33] <duflu> How are you seb128 ?
[07:33] <seb128> duflu, oh, I hope you are doing well still?
[07:33] <duflu> seb128, yeah I feel good, just tired
[07:33] <seb128> duflu, a bit tired, I didn't sleep great this week, I managed to upset my stomach, probably too much food yesterday evening
[07:34] <seb128> but good otherwise
[07:34] <seb128> oSoMoN, pareil ici
[07:34] <duflu> Good food at least, hopefully
[07:34] <seb128> advantage of no school, no need to rush any kid to get ready :p
[07:34] <didrocks> hey seb128, duflu & oSoMoN
[07:34] <seb128> duflu, yeah, it was good, which is why I had too much :p
[07:34] <seb128> lut didrocks, en forme ?
[07:35] <didrocks> ça va, oui, on a de la chance de pouvoir emmener encore Martin chez la nounou pour l’instant :)
[07:35] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[07:36] <seb128> didrocks, veinards :-)
[07:41] <didrocks> oui, on a de la chance sur le coup, mais elles peuvent être réquisitionnées pour le personnel de santé
[07:42] <didrocks> donc on verra
[08:45] <popey> Good morning desktoppers!
[08:45] <oSoMoN> good morning popey
[08:47] <didrocks> hey popey
[08:51] <popey> Nice and sunny this morning in southern UK. Lovely time to be alive. Less traffic on the roads, shops full of new and interesting things to buy which aren't my usual stuff.   I see some have symlinks in in .wants directory under /usr/lib/systemd/user/ but others, don’t seem to have it (tried our timers for instance)
[10:49] <Laney> It's supposed to work, I think dh_installsystemduser does that?
[10:50]  * didrocks builds with DH_VERBOSE
[10:52] <Laney> good idea
[10:52] <Laney> Some of that changed in recent compat levels too, so make sure you're using 12 if you aren't already
[10:52] <Laney> you probably are though :>
[10:52] <didrocks> ah
[10:52] <didrocks> it’s still on 11
[10:52] <didrocks> ok, let’s change this
[10:53] <Laney> oho
[10:53] <Laney> could be relevant yet, because 12 has
[10:53] <Laney>            -       dh_installsystemduser is now included in the dh standard sequence by default.
[10:53] <didrocks> ack, confirming it wasn’t running
[10:53] <didrocks> on package build
[10:53] <didrocks> let me bump that
[10:55] <didrocks> ok dh_installsystemduser is now running
[10:56] <didrocks> Created symlink /etc/systemd/user/timers.target.wants/zsys-user-savestate.timer → /usr/lib/systemd/user/zsys-user-savestate.timer.
[10:57] <didrocks> Thanks Laney!
[10:57] <Laney> w00t
[11:16] <Wimpress> Hello clobrano o/
[11:17] <Wimpress> clobrano didrocks Is a new Yaru release ready upstream for uploading to Focal?
[11:18] <clobrano> hello Wimpress, we need to wait for latest gnome-shell because of some dependencies
[11:18] <Laney> We'll do it as part of 3.36.0
[11:18]  * clobrano looking for the discussion
[11:18] <Laney> well, Trevinho will :>
[11:19] <clobrano> https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/pull/2058
[11:19] <gitbot> ubuntu issue (Pull request) 2058 in yaru "prepare for release 20.04.3" [Closed]
[11:19] <Trevinho> yeah we'll got all together, once I can understand this annoying dock infinite-loop
[11:19] <Wimpress> OK, Understood. Thanks for the info everyone.
[11:20] <didrocks> I have all the non Shell part tested and +1 for me
[11:34] <Trevinho> .... and win :)
[12:55] <oSoMoN> seb128, librsvg can be synced from debian experimental to focal, the ubuntu delta is now in debian (https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/librsvg/-/commit/1ca2d8e51a58e973bcc05ad22ec1599b28d5d2c6)
[13:30] <Laney> oSoMoN: I will do that, thanks
[13:30] <oSoMoN> cheers
[13:39] <seb128> oSoMoN, Laney, thanks
[14:24] <kenvandine> I took a swing at updating vte and gnome-terminal on friday
[14:24] <kenvandine> ran into issues and gave up to finish other tasks before the EOW
[14:24] <kenvandine> so those are back up for grabs
[14:32] <oSoMoN> kenvandine, what sort of issues?
[14:34] <kenvandine> lots of conflicts
[14:35] <kenvandine> i worked through them for a bit but ran out of time
[14:36] <kenvandine> the good news is we got gnome-3-34-1804{.-sdk} published to stable and the gnome-3-34 extension was merged into snapcraft :)
[14:54] <oSoMoN> ricotz, are you looking at the xenial build failures in the firefox-next PPA, or want me to?
[14:59] <ricotz> oSoMoN, it is on my list
[15:00] <oSoMoN> ack, thanks
[15:05] <seb128> oSoMoN, btw you pinged about librsvg earlier but you should be able to sync/upload those packages no?
[15:06] <oSoMoN> seb128, maybe… I've never done a package sync myself, what does it take?
[15:07] <seb128> oSoMoN, $ syncpackage <source> if you have ubuntu-dev-tools installed
[15:07] <seb128> might need a -f if there is delta to override or -d experimental
[15:08] <seb128> oSoMoN, feel free to try on tracker
[15:08] <oSoMoN> seb128, thanks, I'll do that
[15:08] <seb128> thx
[15:08] <seb128> (it might not be published/available to sync yet but the tool will tell you if that's the case)
[15:09] <Laney> I checked the upload permissions for librsvg before syncing it
[15:09] <Laney> it is core-dev only
[15:10] <oSoMoN> no regrets then :)
[15:38] <seb128> kenvandine, did you need me to redo https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/snap-store/+git/snap-store/+merge/380672 or can you just add the remote/pull the branch on the non-mirror location?
[15:39] <seb128> kenvandine, also didn't you say you would add the upstream url to the description on https://launchpad.net/snap-store ?
[15:40] <kenvandine> seb128: i thought you resubmitted that already?
[15:41] <kenvandine> friday was a blur :)
[15:46] <kenvandine> seb128: i guess you didn't submit it there.  I'll just merge it manually
[16:02] <hellsworth> good morning desktopers
[16:06] <kenvandine> good morning hellsworth
[16:06] <hellsworth> hi ken!
[16:08] <oSoMoN> hey hellsworth
[16:09] <hellsworth> hi oSoMoN
[16:11] <kenvandine> hellsworth: i'm up to my elbows in USN refreshes.  I'm using it as an opportunity to test the snapcraft release candidate :)
[16:11] <hellsworth> oh that's great!
[16:11] <kenvandine> once that's done, sergiusens will do a point release that includes gnome-3-34
[16:11] <hellsworth> woo hoo!
[16:12] <kenvandine> hellsworth: so if you have any snaps that could use a rebuild, test what's in candidate
[16:12] <hellsworth> awesome. i do
[16:13] <hellsworth> to test the extension, i am planning on going through this list - https://github.com/snapcore/snapcraft/pull/2794#issuecomment-581606327 - and doing local builds of gnome snaps with gnome-3-34
[16:13] <gitbot> snapcore issue (Pull request) 2794 in snapcraft "Add gnome 3 34 extension" [Closed]
[16:14] <hellsworth> it's also a new libreoffice release week
[16:14] <hellsworth> so all the fun :)
[16:14] <kenvandine> good times
[17:29] <tkamppeter> bug 1863239 is blocking USB printing with HPLIP, should we make it an rls bug?
[17:30] <tkamppeter> Bug is probably caused by UDEV rules of some audio package.
[17:33] <Laney> Did you try on a clean system?
[17:33] <Laney> If it doesn't happen there, check the udev rules on your host
[17:48] <oSoMoN> I'm calling it a day, good night all
[19:52] <sa-ghosts> when can we expect gnome 3.36 to be in focal fossa?
[19:55] <Laney> Parts are already there, but in the coming few days for the rest (e.g. Shell)
[19:57] <sa-ghosts> mutter with the shell?
[19:57] <sa-ghosts> or updated one part at a time
[19:57] <Laney> They pretty much go together, yeah
[19:58] <Laney> We're just resolving some incompatibilties with our default Shell extensions, before it can be pushed out
[19:59] <sa-ghosts> good, because rn there is really no point in testing gnome and you can't report any issues (upstream) because it's out of date
[19:59] <Laney> Yes thanks, we know what we have to do
[20:01] <Laney> I did upload Shell 3.36 to Debian experimental today if that interests you
[20:03] <sa-ghosts> no problem I will just wait for it to drop in ubuntu
[20:03] <sa-ghosts> thank you for the hardwork


[05:13] <GGJON>  /filter add irc_smart * irc_smart_filter *
[06:05] <aus_mal> Hi, I couldn't find anything online so I'll try my luck here
[06:06] <aus_mal> screen brightness on nexus 4 at the lowest setting is still too bright, is there any way to lower it further? thanks
[10:31] <aus_mal> Hi, does anyone know how I can reduce brightness further than the lowest setting?
[11:51] <matv1> hi everyone.
[11:52] <applemuncy> \o/
[11:52] <matv1> here is my issue: I have a ubuntu phone with a broken screen. In the current state I cant activate the lockscreen
[11:52] <matv1> applemuncy :)
[11:53] <applemuncy> does it support OTG USB?
[11:53] <matv1> Is there any way to access the device ?
[11:53] <matv1> applemuncy nope its a bq e4.5
[11:53] <matv1> only usb
[11:53] <matv1> adb works is that it does recognize the device
[11:54] <matv1> but i cant obviously do adb shell because it needs to be unlocked for that
[11:54] <matv1> i was hoping someone knows a way
[11:55] <applemuncy> On The Go is physical way to reverse USB that allows you to connect keyboard or mouse.
[11:56] <applemuncy> I use it on my Nexus 7 (wifi) that has no digitizer.
[11:57] <matv1> applemuncy but the BQ phones do not support OTG afaik
[11:57] <matv1> matv1 actually i am sure :(
[11:58] <matv1> moreover, to enable kb mouse, i would need to have gui access first to make that work, wouldnt I
[11:59] <matv1> All i actually would like to do is grab my files off the phone. I wont be using it after that
[11:59] <matv1> but how to do that.. agh the agony :/
[12:00] <applemuncy> My experience is no you don't
[12:01] <applemuncy> And if you have OTG adapter already it's easy to try
[12:01] <matv1> applemuncy mhmm so you are saying i would be able to connect and use a kb and or mouse over otg?
[12:02] <applemuncy> It works for me on nexus 7.
[12:02] <matv1> well i dont unfortunately but i may be able to borrow one
[12:03] <applemuncy> I hook up mouse and then configure bluetooth mouse and keyboard.
[12:03] <matv1> i do have a bt kb and mouse which I use on my bq tablet. but those are useless too because i cant pair them
[12:04] <applemuncy> Right, same here.
[12:04] <matv1> applemuncy thnks for the tip. I am going to investigate on OTG :)
[12:04] <applemuncy> Good : )
[15:10] <CoderEurope> I shall just leave this here: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BQ-Aquaris-E4-5-Ubuntu-Edition-/262674156411?
[21:57] <Acou_Bass> is the 'media' folder on the ubuntu touch file manager actually supported/a working feature? when i click on it the file manager app just crashes, not sure if bug or just a placeholder icon xD
[21:59] <Acou_Bass> huh ok, looks like someone beat me to making a bug on the launchpad, ill keep my eye on that ;D


[01:12] <mhz> moin
[01:12] <mhz> ogra, breezy-install-i386.iso
[01:12] <mhz>    675626776  98%   19.89kB/s    0:09:3942
[01:12] <mhz> we're getting closer to the truth :D
[01:12] <ogra> phew
[01:13] <ogra> but it didnt really speed up :/
[01:13] <mhz> nop
[01:15] <mhz> it gave some time to make sure I can make DHCP work (by myself), though
[01:24] <mhz>    687157248 100%   28.27kB/s    6:35:33  (1, 100.0% of 1)
[01:24] <mhz> cool!
[01:26] <mhz> correction:/me is sent to get the laundry :(
[01:45] <mhz> re
[02:51] <mhz> re
[04:40] <mhz> re
[04:41] <arkanox_> hi mhz
[11:37] <Yagisan> ogra: ping
[02:38] <hyperactivecrond> hey al
[02:38] <hyperactivecrond> all`
[02:45] <spacey_ki> moin
[03:43] <Yagisan> ogra: the patch I sent you is also here http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17297
[03:44] <ogra> Yagisan, thanks, i already forwarded it to mdz for inclusion in dapper
[03:45] <Yagisan> ogra: hey - your here - I hoped for some feedback - I didn't get you eairlier - so I stuck it on bugzilla
[03:46] <ogra> i wont test it now, to much weird stuff to solve for release now...
[03:46] <Yagisan> I'm planning to test out with qemu for non-trivial multi-client-arch support soon
[03:46] <Yagisan> no worries
[03:46] <ogra> and it wont get accepted 5 days before release for the current one
[03:47] <Yagisan> I was expecting dapper for that
[03:47] <ogra> yup
[03:48] <ogra> mdz has a bazaar tree for bleeding edge stuff... you might want to branch it :)
[03:48] <Yagisan> do you get an error about being unable to write to volotile on boot and no non-free kernel modules ?
[03:48] <ogra><EMAIL_ADDRESS>[03:49] <ogra> i dont use nonfree kernel modules, but to my knowledge volatile is bind mounted from the server anyway
[03:49] <Yagisan> I'll see if I can grab a log
[03:49] <Yagisan> wait - volotile is bind mounted ?
[03:50] <ogra> i think so...
[03:50] <Yagisan> that won't work with multi-client-arches well
[03:51] <Yagisan> thanks for sending my patch to mdz
[04:06] <mhz_ed> morning
[04:07] <mhz_ed> ogra, ping?
[04:07] <Yagisan> G'day
[04:07] <ogra> mhz_ed, hi
[04:07] <mhz_ed> gd, Yagisan
[04:09] <mhz_ed> few weeks ago I was talking about edubuntu to one of the guys in Tecnocimiento. All the time our conversation lasted, he thought I was talking about a guy named Edward Ubuntu, leader of an educational project based on Debian :D
[04:09] <mhz_ed> I couldn't help the laughter when he confessed that
[04:10] <mhz_ed> he had even googled about edward ubuntu LOL
[04:11] <mhz_ed> ogra, so, here i am with your iso installed onto this box. My interfaces are eth0 -> web | eth1 -> local net (<IP_ADDRESS> as ip and gw)
[04:11] <ogra> the install went errorfree ?
[04:11] <mhz_ed> is ti just a matter or booting clients now, or there's a service I should restart?
[04:11] <mhz_ed> YES!!!
[04:12] <ogra> yay
[04:12] <mhz_ed> I can't tell you how happy I was at 3:30 AM
[04:12] <mhz_ed> but I was dead sleepy so I went to bed
[04:13] <ogra> with this ip stuff you should just restart dhcpd and all should be fine
[04:13] <mhz_ed> okidoki.
[04:13] <ogra> sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart iirc
[04:14] <mhz_ed> what I did do, is that at installing time I only configed eth1 and omitted eth0 in order to avoid possible conflicts
[04:14] <ogra> ah, ok, then it should run already
[04:14] <mhz_ed> hehe, yes. After more than 30 diff tries, stopin, starting services I can manage well :D
[04:15] <mhz_ed> me booting thin laptop  now... let's see
[04:15] <mhz_ed> heheh.. booting
[04:15] <ogra> great
[04:15] <ogra> :)
[04:16] <mhz_ed> let's see once scripts finish if we can work
[04:16] <mhz_ed> hmmm....
[04:16] <mhz_ed> * starting RAID..
[04:16] <mhz_ed> * calculating module dependencies
[04:17] <mhz_ed> oopppps, a couple of warnings about LTSP
[04:17] <mhz_ed> Fialure initializing /etc/net...
[04:17] <ogra> thats normal
[04:17] <mhz_ed> I see an X, I see an X!!!
[04:17] <mhz_ed> yahooooooooooooo
[04:17] <ogra> its caused by read only filesystem
[04:18] <mhz_ed> username:
[04:18] <mhz_ed> gooooogle!!
[04:18] <mhz_ed> what username??
[04:19] <ogra> the one you configured on install ?
[04:19] <ogra> or another one you created afterwards, as you like :)
[04:19] <mhz_ed> oh, only that one, duh!
[04:20] <mhz_ed> ogra, so, I could also install a lighter desktop and it all should run smoothly?
[04:20] <ogra> you lo in to the normal desktop session like you would if you were directly on the server, so all you do there will be reflected by it
[04:20] <ogra> sure
[04:20] <ogra> note that we start the default Xsessio...
[04:21] <ogra> you might have to uninstall other sessions... session selection is planned for next release only..
[04:21] <mhz_ed> no problem. So I could disable GDM and force users to use a preconfiged .xinitrc ??
[04:21] <ogra> (or create a ~/.xsession file)
[04:22] <ogra> do that in ~/.xsession... not .xinitrc :)
[04:22] <ogra> and what you see is not gdm ;)
[04:22] <Yagisan> sdm
[04:22] <ogra> ldm ;)
[04:22] <Yagisan> close
[04:22] <Yagisan> ?dm :)
[04:22] <mhz_ed> educool
[04:23] <ogra> http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/edubuntu/
[04:23] <ogra> ^^ has a preview and install instructions for the upcoming changes
[04:23] <mhz_ed> ogra, let me say this: You have been doing a hell of a Job (literally)
[04:23] <ogra> thanks :)
[04:23] <mhz_ed> it's pure truth
[04:24] <ogra> i still need fixes to go in that mdz doesnt allow currently... we're still fighting
[04:24] <ogra> i.e. PATH is wrong...
[04:24] <mhz_ed> hence I insist: ."a hell of a job"
[04:24] <ogra> (no /usr/games... try to run a game)
[04:24] <mhz_ed> :D
[04:24] <Yagisan> ogra: I did - no wesnoth :(
[04:25] <ogra> its there, just the patch is wrong :(
[04:25] <mhz_ed> no such file
[04:25] <ogra> s/patch/path
[04:25] <mhz_ed> :)
[04:25] <ogra> yes
[04:25] <ogra> all DMs set it on login, only ldm doesnt... mdz doesnt answer to my change request :(
[04:26] <mhz_ed> anyways we can "speak in the dark" with him?
[04:26] <ogra> nah...
[04:26] <ogra> he just wants the *right* fix for that and thinks it should be done in ssh... i disagree, we have to fight this out ;)
[04:27] <mhz_ed> what if he suddenly sufferen and accident?
[04:27] <Yagisan> why does he think it's sshs problem ?
[04:27] <ogra> then i'd take it over, but it would use its best developer and inventor :)
[04:27] <mhz_ed> :D
[04:28] <ogra> because ssh should set the environment on login in his opinoin...
[04:28] <mhz_ed> oh, by the way... yesterday, my DHCP server setting did not work thruough my dlink router. Today I booted via crossover rj45
[04:28] <ogra> but all othr DMs set it before attempting to login in X so i think the same behavior is right for ldm and ssh
[04:29] <ogra> i have 4 switches between my client and server... shouldnt be an issue
[04:31] <Yagisan> I'd agree with you that ldm should set it. It is then consistent with all other DMs. If he disagrees - he should file a bug on the other DMs
[04:31] <mhz_ed> hmmm, and how do I turned clients off?
[04:32] <Yagisan> mhz_ed: log out and power button
[04:32] <mhz_ed> Yagisan, I did that but I get back to ldm
[04:33] <Yagisan> hold down power button for about 4 seconds
[04:33] <mhz_ed> hehehehehe
[04:33] <mhz_ed> oh, you mean "force them done"
[04:33] <mhz_ed> oh, you mean "force them down
[04:33] <Yagisan> I'd like shutdown -h as a local app myself
[04:33] <Yagisan> yeah - force them down
[04:33] <Yagisan> at the ldm screen your not going to lose data
[04:34] <Yagisan> just pretend its DOS
[04:35] <ogra> i'll add a shutdown option to ldm in dapper
[04:35] <mhz_ed> :( Nope, it won't boot using the dlink in between
[04:35] <mhz_ed> not even dhcp passes
[04:36] <ogra> thats very strange
[04:36] <mhz_ed> yes
[04:36] <ogra> you dont use the crosslik cable on to the router ?
[04:36] <ogra> s/on//
[04:36] <mhz_ed> nnnnoooop
[04:36] <mhz_ed> hehehe
[04:37] <ogra> try it, probably it helps ;)
[04:37] <ogra> no really, its quite strange
[04:37] <mhz_ed> but it always worked ok
[04:37] <mhz_ed> ah, but worked ok with no dhcp server set by then
[04:38] <mhz_ed> could it be that my eth1 is sharing gw IP
[04:38] <ogra> oh, yes, you shouldnt run two in one net... except configured as repeating server
[04:38] <mhz_ed> sahring = using
[04:39] <mhz_ed> and how can I set 2 ips to same eth1
[04:40] <ogra> ifconfig eth1:0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
[04:40] <ogra> and add a route...
[04:40] <mhz_ed> or is it eth1 = <IP_ADDRESS> and the router must have <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:40] <mhz_ed> ?
[04:40] <ogra> what is the router ? a standalone one ?
[04:40] <mhz_ed> router is dLink
[04:41] <ogra> and has a static ip ?
[04:41] <mhz_ed> dunno
[04:41] <mhz_ed> never touched it
[04:41] <ogra> i would give it <IP_ADDRESS> as static ip...
[04:42] <mhz_ed> yep, and how?
[04:42] <ogra> doesnt it have a web interface to configure it ?
[04:42] <mhz_ed> want me to google?
[04:42] <mhz_ed> oh, i think it does
[04:42] <ogra> i mean, how do you configure to dial in with it ?
[04:43] <mhz_ed> it has an Ip I can access and get to a web interface
[04:43] <mhz_ed> but i ave never dialed in
[04:43] <ogra> so what does it route then ?
[04:44] <mhz_ed> actually, now that you mention it, it's there to let me give other machines web access, only
[04:44] <mhz_ed> like a HUB
[04:50] <mhz_ed> ogra, current Motorola IPS Modem IP is <IP_ADDRESS>
[04:51] <mhz_ed> ogra, few minutes ago you suggested: ifconfig eth1:0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xx
[04:51] <mhz_ed> aslo: and add a route..
[04:51] <ogra> yes, if you need two IPs on one interface
[04:52] <ogra> eth1:0 is an alias for eth1
[04:52] <mhz_ed> by doing so, I can give eth1: ...1 and eth1:0 ...2 ?  being 1 the gw and 2 the ip?
[04:52] <ogra> why ?
[04:53] <mhz_ed> I need my clients to boot from server and have web acces, right?
[04:54] <ogra> you need your clients to boot from the server... nothing more or the clients... dont forget, you log in directly on the server
[04:54] <ogra> s/or/on/
[04:55] <mhz_ed> duh1!right
[04:55] <ogra> so if you have eth0->web & eth1->thin client network, you boot the client on eth1's network, lo in via ssh -X on the server and access the web through eth0 directly from there
[04:55] <ogra> s/lo/log/
[04:56] <mhz_ed> absolutely right
[04:56] <ogra> it all happens on the server, eth1 is only for low level stuff to the clients...
[04:56] <ogra> no routig required....
[04:56] <mhz_ed> uh, but then I forgot about my wife.
[04:57] <mhz_ed> she uses MS
[04:57] <ogra> and is on the eth0 network ?
[04:57] <mhz_ed> she used to have static ip 192... and set 192...1 as gw so she go out
[04:58] <ogra> fine...
[05:01] <mhz_ed> hmm, I am getting errors from this reps. deb http://cl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:01] <mhz_ed> deb-src http://cl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[05:01] <ogra> heh, breezy-backports ???
[05:02] <mhz_ed> it was there and I said, why not?
[05:02] <mhz_ed> I don't want it?
[05:02] <ogra> from where should they come ? a vaporware archive ?
[05:03] <ogra> there is nothing from where you could backport something to breezy yet ;)
[05:03] <mhz_ed> LOL
[05:08] <Yagisan> ogra - well *cough* *cough* I have some breezy-backports :)
[05:09] <ogra> Yagisan, from which dapper did you get it :p ?
[05:09] <Yagisan> from my list of "it's to late for breezy" :)
[05:09] <Yagisan> s/to/too
[05:10] <Yagisan> includes multi-client-support, action games etc :-P
[07:47] <stockholm> jane_: there?
[11:05] <mhz_ed> re
[11:05] <mhz_ed> ogra, E.T. phone home
[11:31] <mhz_ed> ogra, ping?
[11:43] <fersfeir> Hi, i try to install edubuntu an get the error http://img281.imageshack.us/img281/1127/initrdtools1xa.png and cat /target/var.....  is http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/7377/bootstraplog0zd.png
[11:43] <fersfeir> some idea about the error?
[11:45] <fersfeir> i am using the image http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/edubuntu/5.10/edubuntu-5.10-preview-install-i386.iso
[11:55] <hno73> crimsun: ping
[11:56] <hno73> I've put up a test of the new wiki skin at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[11:56] <hno73> anyone want to test?
[11:56] <hno73> (anyone else around this late on a Saturday? :) )
[11:58] <fersfeir> well....
[11:58] <fersfeir> second try
[12:00] <mhz_ed> hno73, hey, nice to see you, long time.
[12:00] <hno73> mhz_ed: hey!
[12:00] <hno73> want to test my new wiki skin? :)
[12:00] <mhz_ed> of course! been waiting for it
[12:00] <hno73> how are things?
[12:00] <mhz_ed> better
[12:01] <mhz_ed> lot better
[12:01] <mhz_ed> :)
[12:01] <hno73> so go to the main wiki, and select the edubuntu skin
[12:01] <mhz_ed> but still no money, just volunteering
[12:01] <hno73> good
[12:01] <hno73> right
[12:03] <mhz_ed> hehehe, I had forgot password :( duh!


[06:02] <sbalneav> Evening all
[10:02] <cbx33> mornin all
[10:03] <highvoltage> morning cbx33
[10:03] <cbx33> highvoltage: hey
[10:03] <highvoltage> howzit going?
[10:04] <cbx33> got a problem at the mo :( - apt-get remove nvidia-glx tries to remove ubuntu-desktop and the entire set of xorg pacakges
[10:04] <cbx33> other than that...
[10:04] <cbx33> my office is a mess
[10:05] <highvoltage> heh
[10:05] <highvoltage> well, last night I couldn't sleep, I got a big bunch of exciting ideas and couldn't stop thinking about them.
[10:05] <cbx33> cool
[10:05] <cbx33> that's gotta be good
[10:05] <highvoltage> only got to sleep 1am, then woke up at 2am and got more ideas.
[10:05] <highvoltage> eventually got to sleep 4am again
[10:05] <cbx33> my initial musings with gstreamer are working well
[10:06] <highvoltage> and when I woke up, I totally forgot what kept me up last night.
[10:06] <cbx33> so you forgot all your ideas?
[10:06] <highvoltage> yes :(
[10:06] <highvoltage> i remember thinking up huge amounts of code in my head too, and even troubleshooting it :)
[10:07] <highvoltage> my new policy is that if I get inspiration late in the evening, I'm going to work instead, not try to sleep.
[10:07] <highvoltage> because now I've lost a nights sleep, and I'll be useless during most of today- double loss. I should've worked instead and slept late this morning.
[10:09] <cbx33> awww
[10:10] <highvoltage> at least my office space is clean for a change :)
[10:11] <cbx33> hehe
[10:11] <cbx33> yeh I really gotta sort that today
[10:11] <cbx33> highvoltage: you don;t have any nvidia machines handy do you?
[10:44] <pygi> wb cbx33 ;)
[10:46] <JonathanFerguson> I've got a problem with sqlite, enenthough there isn't sqlite per se, in 6.06.1
[10:47] <JonathanFerguson> The program I run under Mono, has it's own sqlite in it.
[10:47] <JonathanFerguson> Can Edubuntu be confusing sqlite for sqlsharp?
[10:48] <pygi> JonathanFerguson: no :)
[10:49] <JonathanFerguson> The alternative is to use MySQL, but it's been very painful, unlike version 5 under Apple 10.3.2 which was straight forward.
[11:07] <cbx33> do I see that the SCP spec is being discuss today or has already been discussed
[11:10] <cbx33> if it's already been discussed I'll throw a hissy fit ;)
[11:35] <highvoltage> oh dear.
[11:35] <cbx33> hehe
[11:35] <cbx33> http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/uds-mtv/2006-11-05/
[11:35] <cbx33> is a little misleading
[12:04] <[118] Gatekeeper> hi
[12:05] <[118] Gatekeeper> can someone answer some questens about edubunto
[12:05] <cbx33> we can try
[12:06] <[118] Gatekeeper> i have get a pc from a customer
[12:06] <[118] Gatekeeper> he say install edubunto
[12:06] <[118] Gatekeeper> so i insert the cd a bott
[12:06] <[118] Gatekeeper> and boot
[12:07] <[118] Gatekeeper> bot after loading kernel and initrd the system hangup
[12:07] <edubuntugirl> [118] Gatekeeper: excuse me?
[12:07] <[118] Gatekeeper> yes ?
[12:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> any errors?
[12:08] <[118] Gatekeeper> yes
[12:08] <[118] Gatekeeper> the pc acer aspire E500
[12:09] <cbx33> is there no disk activity at all
[12:10] <[118] Gatekeeper> http://acer.de/acereuro/page9.do?sp=page4&dau34.oid=11670&UserCtxParam=0&GroupCtxParam=0&dctx1=9&CountryISOCtxParam=DE&LanguageISOCtxParam=de&ctx3=-1&ctx4=Deutschland&crc=2231436766
[12:10] <[118] Gatekeeper> ne
[12:10] <[118] Gatekeeper> nothig
[12:11] <[118] Gatekeeper> i have 2 disks: ubunto server; knoppix 5
[12:11] <[118] Gatekeeper> i have 2 disks: ubunto server; knoppix 4
[12:13] <[118] Gatekeeper> the customer dont give me the root passwd, so i have started with knoppix and chroot to primary disk and than passwd to change rott password
[12:13] <cbx33> ok
[12:13] <[118] Gatekeeper> and now the system hang up @ boot
[12:13] <cbx33> ok
[12:13] <cbx33> does it use grub?
[12:13] <[118] Gatekeeper> yes
[12:13] <cbx33> what version of edubuntu is it?
[12:14] <[118] Gatekeeper> mom i will start with knoppix and have a look @ the release file
[12:14] <cbx33> ok
[12:15] <cbx33> ok you could try starting the machine
[12:15] <cbx33> and at the grub prompt, edit the grub kernel line and remove splash
[12:15] <cbx33> it's all done with keys..... e to edit
[12:15] <cbx33> etc
[12:15] <cbx33> and it's all documented in grub if you've never done it before
[12:16] <[118] Gatekeeper> okay i am wrong
[12:18] <[118] Gatekeeper> grub is installt but i cant insert something in the command line cause the time is 0
[12:19] <[118] Gatekeeper> now i can see: the edubunto logo
[12:19] <[118] Gatekeeper> Loading essentiel drivvers .... OK
[12:19] <[118] Gatekeeper> mounting root filesystem .... <HANG UP>
[12:20] <cbx33> it does sit there for a while
[12:20] <cbx33> give it time
[12:20] <[118] Gatekeeper> okay
[12:20] <[118] Gatekeeper> "/dev/sda1 = 310 GB
[12:20] <[118] Gatekeeper> ext3
[12:21] <cbx33> ok
[12:22] <[118] Gatekeeper> there is no hdd act.
[12:22] <cbx33> act?
[12:22] <[118] Gatekeeper> activity
[12:23] <cbx33> ah...
[12:23] <cbx33> hmm...
[12:23] <cbx33> that is odd
[12:23] <[118] Gatekeeper> jo
[12:23] <cbx33> I've had it take a few minutes before
[12:23] <cbx33> but never that long
[12:24] <[118] Gatekeeper> can i hide the splash wit <tab> or <esc>
[12:29] <[118] Gatekeeper> *still waiting
[12:29] <cbx33> hmmm
[12:29] <[118] Gatekeeper> *kick
[12:29] <cbx33> yeh I think we've established a problem here ;)
[12:29] <cbx33> the trick is going to be finding what's wrong
[12:29] <cbx33> what about rebooting...bott with knoppix mount the drive and look for a ny logs
[12:30] <[118] Gatekeeper> okay
[12:39] <[118] Gatekeeper> its edubunto = ubuntu 6.06 dapper
[12:42] <[118] Gatekeeper> i can found the last clear shutdown only in the logs
[12:46] <[118] Gatekeeper> i changed same valuse in /boot/grub/menu.list
[12:47] <[118] Gatekeeper> i changed some values in /boot/grub/menu.list
[12:47] <[118] Gatekeeper> do i nedd grub-install or tkes effect at next startup
[01:02] <[118] Gatekeeper> i have disabled the usb
[01:02] <[118] Gatekeeper> now the system is up
[01:44] <cbx33> yikes....am I still here?
[01:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:44] <highvoltage> indeed.
[01:44] <cbx33> excellent
[01:44] <cbx33> sorry just changed proxy servers and back
[01:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[01:45] <[118] Gatekeeper> @cbx33 i have disabled the usb
[01:46] <[118] Gatekeeper> i have disabled the usb
[01:46] <cbx33> anything?
[01:46] <[118] Gatekeeper> now the system is up
[01:46] <cbx33> wow
[01:46] <cbx33> what did the ogs say
[01:46] <cbx33> logs
[01:46] <[118] Gatekeeper> system hung up when start ohci host contoller
[01:47] <cbx33> ahhh
[01:47] <cbx33> well at least you know
[01:47] <[118] Gatekeeper> nice ^^
[01:48] <[118] Gatekeeper> how can i tell edubuntu to leech fiels (apt-get install g++) freom the internet
[01:48] <[118] Gatekeeper> he try to use the cd
[01:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> system -> administration -> software propreties
[01:48] <[118] Gatekeeper> but cd ist everywhere in hamburg
[01:54] <[118] Gatekeeper> there is a password required
[01:54] <[118] Gatekeeper> root password ?
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> no. admin
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> your password
[01:54] <[118] Gatekeeper> it doesent work
[01:55] <[118] Gatekeeper> okay can i try passwd admin ?
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> try with the password you made during install
[01:55] <[118] Gatekeeper> i dont istall this system :(
[01:55] <[118] Gatekeeper> dont have instaled
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> huh?
[01:56] <[118] Gatekeeper> i am administrator in a small company
[01:56] <[118] Gatekeeper> a customer comes to me and ask for help
[01:57] <cbx33> I thought you chrooted and changed the password?
[01:57] <cbx33> oh btw
[01:57] <cbx33> there is no root password on a default ubuntu install
[01:57] <[118] Gatekeeper> yes but not for "admin"
[01:57] <cbx33> the account is locked out
[01:57] <cbx33> no
[01:57] <cbx33> well
[01:57] <cbx33> it depends what user they created first
[01:57] <cbx33> you still on knoppix?
[01:58] <[118] Gatekeeper> no dapperdrake
[01:58] <cbx33> but you can't login right
[01:58] <cbx33> ?
[01:58] <[118] Gatekeeper> yes
[01:58] <cbx33> boot up off the knoppix cd
[01:59] <cbx33> then you can see what the user name was that was created
[02:00] <kihai> Hi there! I'm having a small problem after upgrading from dapper to edgy. The packages acpid, acpi-support and edubuntu-desktop are somehow wrongly configured. When I try to dpkg-reconfigure one of them, I get an error saying acpid is not nocfigured correctly. Apart from that the current kernel doesn't seem to be installed . uname -a gives me: Linux edubuntu 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux Anyone any ideas on how to fix
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> kihai, has your upgrade finished?
[02:02] <kihai> Yes, but with errors. Everything boots up and there don't seem to be any problems, even the ltsp works (Though it's not yet updated) and 15 clients boot happily from the updated server
[02:03] <cbx33> hmmm
[02:03] <cbx33> are you loggin into the server
[02:03] <cbx33> or via a client?
[02:03] <kihai> What about reinvoking the update-manager? Could that help or shouldn't I bother?
[02:03] <cbx33> have you rebooted?
[02:03] <kihai> yes
[02:03] <cbx33> surely you should have a 17.10 kernel
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> kihai, have you run `sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop`?
[02:04] <kihai> edubuntu-desktop is already installed. I uninstalled it because of the dependency conflict with acpid
[02:04] <cbx33> how did you upgrade?
[02:04] <cbx33> with update manager?
[02:05] <kihai> yes, update-manager -c
[02:05] <cbx33> hmmm
[02:05] <cbx33> try update-manager -c -d
[02:07] <[118] Gatekeeper> problem sovlved
[02:07] <[118] Gatekeeper> the "use-the-right-password-botton"
[02:08] <kihai> update-manager -c -d tells me my system is up to date... :(
[02:12] <cbx33> hmmm
[02:12] <cbx33> tried an apt-get install --reinstall ?
[02:15] <kihai> yes, doesn't help though...
[02:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> having removed edubuntu-desktop have you reinstlaled it?
[02:15] <cbx33> hmmm
[02:15] <cbx33> what about a manual install of the latest kernel?
[02:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> wont unbreak him
[02:16] <kihai> edubuntu-desktop is dependent on acpi-support, acpi-support depends on acpid and acpid can't be reinstalled nor reconfigured...
[02:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> why cant it?
[02:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> whats the error?
[02:17] <cbx33> Kamping_Kaiser: you sure it can't confiugre it cos the latest kernel isn't available?
[02:17] <cbx33> seeing as acpi relies heavily on kernel?
[02:17] <cbx33> I'm not sure
[02:17] <kihai> The error comes from dpkg and it leaves the packages unconfigured
[02:17] <cbx33> does it givce any more info
[02:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> kihai, dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/acpi*deb
[02:19] <kihai> dpkg: Abhngigkeitsprobleme verhindern Konfiguration von acpi-support:
[02:19] <kihai>  acpi-support hngt ab von acpid (>= 1.0.4-1ubuntu4); aber:
[02:19] <kihai>   Package acpid is not configured yet.
[02:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> so install the failing package on its own.
[02:20] <kihai> It's already installed.
[02:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> whats apt-cache policy acpid give?
[02:21] <kihai> just not configured and dpkg-reconfigure acpid brings the same errors about dependencies
[02:21] <kihai> acpid:
[02:21] <kihai>   Installiert:1.0.4-5ubuntu4
[02:21] <kihai>   Mgliche Pakete:1.0.4-5ubuntu4
[02:21] <kihai>   Versions-Tabelle:
[02:21] <kihai>  *** 1.0.4-5ubuntu4 0
[02:21] <kihai>         500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages
[02:21] <kihai>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[02:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok. sudo dpkg --configure --pending
[02:26] <kihai> same errors...
[02:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> drat. its my bedtime. did it configure anything?
[02:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> also give `sudo apt-get -f install` a whirl. it should try and fix the install for you (to the best it can)
[02:28] <kihai> just like that or sudo apt-get -f install edubuntu-desktop ?
[02:31] <cbx33> just sudo apt-get -f install
[02:32] <kihai> It showed a lot of unmet dependencies and at the end the same three errors about acpid, acpi-support and edubuntu-desktop appeared...
[02:32] <cbx33> hmmm
[02:32] <cbx33> can you possibly sort of the unmet deps?
[02:33] <SimonAnibal> it's 8:30 AM, wake up!
[02:33] <cbx33> 13:30 here ;)
[02:33] <SimonAnibal> :)
[02:35] <kihai> Hmm, now I tried dpkg-reconfigure --force acpid. It said: Stopping ACPI services, Loading ACPI Modules, Starting ACPI services, all with [OK] , but aptitude -f install after that brings the same error about acpid not being configured
[02:42] <cbx33> argh
[02:42] <cbx33> i hate it when this happens
[02:42] <cbx33> I'll bbiab
[03:52] <bddebian> Heya
[04:16] <highvoltage> *sigh*. they broke into my car again today :(
[05:10] <jsgotangco> ?
[05:10] <pygi> jsgotangco: what? :)
[05:10] <jsgotangco> :P
[05:11] <pygi> libburn can now burn first session, hehe :)
[05:14] <jsgotangco> ohhh
[05:14] <pygi> I know it means nothing to you, but oh well :P
[05:15] <jsgotangco> burn first session
[05:15] <jsgotangco> do you mean multisession cd?
[05:15] <pygi> yup
[05:15] <pygi> don't worry :)
[05:16] <jsgotangco> i gotta sleep
[05:16] <jsgotangco> will catch up later
[05:16] <pygi> night
[05:39] <cbx33> ogra, hi dude
[05:39] <cbx33> am I right in thinking that there is an SCP meeting in about 5 and a half hours
[05:40] <pygi> scp?!
[05:40] <pygi> ah, student control panel
[05:40] <cbx33> yeh...the spec
[05:40] <cbx33> hence why I did it in capitols ;)
[05:44] <ogra> thats only a drafting session, we had our discussions yesterday ...
[05:45] <cbx33> argh that's what I thought
[05:45] <cbx33> damn
[05:45] <cbx33> there was no schedule on the wiki yesterday
[05:45] <cbx33> I checked
[05:45] <cbx33> the dates on the schedule are very misleading
[05:45] <cbx33> how did it go?
[05:45] <ogra> the schedule was there
[05:46] <cbx33> well I couldn;'t see it
[05:46] <ogra> it went nicely ... a bunch of stuff will be added ... wait for my wiki edit ... i have to collect all the notes first (thats what the drafting session is for)
[05:46] <cbx33> I kept checking up till about 4pm my time
[05:46] <cbx33> ok
[05:47] <cbx33> is it worth me being present togniht/today
[05:47] <ogra> well, we start at 5pm your time  (which is about 8am here)
[05:47] <cbx33> yeh.....I had to go out....unfortunately
[05:47] <cbx33> so I am really sorry
[05:47] <ogra> but the schedule for yesterday was generated a day in advance
[05:48] <cbx33> but it wasn't present on the wiki
[05:48] <cbx33> hmmm
[05:48] <cbx33> what time is todays drafting session...and would you like me to be present?
[05:49] <ogra> not needed, its only me sitting in a corner and adding the notes from the discussion to the wiki
[05:49] <cbx33> http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/uds-mtv/2006-11-05/ - the title in one place says 06 and in another 05
[05:49] <cbx33> so I missed out then
[05:49] <ogra> http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/uds-mtv/ is the right link ....
[05:50] <ogra> the daily schedules will show up there
[05:50] <cbx33> yeh and taht links to that page
[05:50] <cbx33> if you see the title it's wrong
[05:50] <cbx33> well the H1 tag
[05:50] <cbx33> well....I'm really sorry nd majorly dissapointed - I really wanted to attend
[05:50] <cbx33> but i guess it can't be helped
[05:50] <cbx33> too late now any way
[05:51] <cbx33> was my drafted spec ok?
[05:51] <ogra> we went over it quickly ... there is not really a need to spec ui beautification and bugfixes, so that part will boil down to the vnc part
[05:52] <ogra> - multiple server control
[05:52] <ogra> - filter functionallity of the userlist
[05:52] <ogra> - forced filter per teacher
[05:52] <ogra> - sharing screen -> exec vnc on the clients desktop connected to your session
[05:52] <ogra> - mini vnc preview in teh userlist
[05:52] <ogra> - tiled vnc overview of the complete class on demand
[05:52] <cbx33> I'm looking forward to your updates to the wiki
[05:52] <ogra> is waht i will add today ...
[05:52] <cbx33> nice
[05:52] <cbx33> who is implementing?
[05:52] <ogra> doesnt matter yet
[05:53] <ogra> for now only the spec is important ...
[05:53] <cbx33> I was just curious whether anyone else had tipped their hats towards it
[05:54] <cbx33> brb
[06:07] <cbx33> back
[06:12] <pygi> Seveas: got a question for you :)
[06:28] <theresa> hello everyone! i have a problem, I downloaded the Live CD of 6.10 today and burned the image and when i booted it i got the following error "I/O error: Error reading boot cd"
[06:28] <pygi> your hardware is ok theresa ? :)
[06:28] <theresa> pygi: yes it is, because my dad tried it at his pc at work as well
[06:28] <tideline> theresa: did you check MD5 after downloading?
[06:29] <theresa> nope, how do I do that? I've still got the iso that I downloaded
[06:30] <tideline> I take for granted you are using windows to download?
[06:30] <theresa> yes
[06:30] <theresa> well, I'm on Kubuntu now, but the iso was downloaded from a windows machine
[06:32] <tideline> if you have the iso on the kubuntu box you can check it with the md5sum command - md5sum -c filename
[06:32] <tideline> iirc
[06:34] <theresa> tideline: thank you very much, I'll give it a try
[06:34] <tideline> there should be a md5sums file you could download from a mirror that will have the value you should be getting for compairson
[06:35] <tideline> theresa: no problem let us know if you need more help
[06:45] <theresa> hmmm i've cd'd into the directory where I downloaded the MD5SUM file and where the edubuntu iso exists...but it says md5sum: command: No such file or directory
[06:51] <tideline> theresa: are you on a live cd machine or an install
[06:51] <Seveas> pygi, mail is better for that these days, I'm at uds
[06:52] <pygi> Seveas: oki, just wanted simple question :)
[06:52] <bddebian> pygi: Did you get my e-mail?
[06:53] <theresa> tideline: i have kubuntu installed here.....
[06:53] <theresa> tideline: runs smoothly since 3 months....
[06:53] <pygi> bddebian: yup, but haven't got the time to look yet, thank you very much :)
[06:53] <bddebian> NP
[06:54] <tideline> theresa: odd - have you install the build-essentials package?
[06:54] <tideline> i dont know if you need that though
[06:56] <tideline> i would think that md5sum would be a normal part of the distro
[06:57] <highvoltage> it is
[06:58] <pygi> yay, highvoltage ^_^
[06:58] <highvoltage> :)
[06:58] <pygi> highvoltage: can you read -burning about news ? ^_^
[06:58] <pygi> also write some blog post, nothing important tho on planet :)
[07:00] <tideline> theresa: did you try it with the -c like I said - if so try it without
[07:01] <pygi> highvoltage: about the multi session stuff :P
[07:03] <theresa> my iso cd contains the following stuff: isolinux / casper / install / ubuntu / pics / .disk / preseed / dists / pool / md5sum.txt / README / cdromupgrade
[07:04] <tideline> theresa: wait - cd into the directory where the iso is stored, not the iso itseld
[07:05] <theresa> tideline: what do you mean where it is stored? i have the .iso currently on my desktop and the burned iso image in my cd drive
[07:06] <tideline> ok so cd to your desktop cd ~/Desktop
[07:06] <theresa> ok
[07:06] <tideline> now at the command prompt typr md5sum filename - where filename is the name of the iso
[07:09] <theresa> takes a while
[07:09] <tideline> yup
[07:10] <theresa> hmm they're both different :(
[07:11] <tideline> so the md5 from the command and the one in the md5sums file are not the same - that means the hash has changes so the iso is not good.  You should probably download another copy and try it.
[07:11] <theresa> hmm ok, maybe from another server as well?
[07:11] <tideline> couldn't hurt
[07:14] <theresa> tideline: thanks for all your help and effort!
[07:42] <cbx33> hey RichEd
[07:43] <RichEd> mr savage ... how are ?
[07:44] <cbx33> good good
[07:44] <cbx33> you
[07:46] <bronze> cbx has a tan?
[07:50] <bronze> re: cbx|savage http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doc_Savage
[07:50] <cbx33> hehehe
[08:05] <stgraber> RichEd: Are you in room 210 ?
[08:06] <stgraber> Looks like there is nobody in this room (at least on VOIP)
[08:06] <stgraber> hmm, fixed now, fine
[09:00] <pygi> sbalneav: hey
[09:01] <sbalneav> Hello pygi
[09:29] <grahamldlw> cbx33 u there?
[09:30] <cbx33> yup
[09:30] <grahamldlw> how can i run and compile pascal code on here?
[09:30] <grahamldlw> i downloaded some gpc thing and it hasnt done anything and i cant find it or anything
[09:31] <cbx33> you need to run
[09:31] <cbx33> in a terminal window
[09:31] <cbx33> gpc pascalfile -o outputfile
[09:31] <grahamldlw> i tried it i cant get it to, i have the source code minus the wincrt on my desktop
[09:31] <grahamldlw> huh?
[09:31] <grahamldlw> i'd type that in on the terminal?
[09:33] <grahamldlw> ok i get that now, is there anyway to get a seperate program on linux that dosent do it in the termianl
[09:35] <cbx33> nope
[09:35] <cbx33> :p
[09:35] <cbx33> ...oh you coud always write one
[09:35] <cbx33> ;)
[09:36] <grahamldlw> ha..yeh, i've finished a naughts and crosses game for pascal, and i wanted to play it :( lol, doing visual basic next
[09:36] <grahamldlw> and we finished doing arrays, she was gonna show me how to do 2D arrays whatever that is but i was concentrating too much, im first in class to finish naughts and crosses and we started it this morning
[09:42] <cbx33> coool
[09:42] <cbx33> oh btw M$ have dropped support for some of VB
[09:42] <cbx33> heheh
[09:42] <grahamldlw> hu has?
[09:42] <grahamldlw> microsoft?
[09:42] <cbx33> microsfot
[09:42] <grahamldlw> im not using microsoft products so im sure thats not a problem lol
[09:43] <grahamldlw> syntax error and it wont run :(
[09:43] <cbx33> hehe
[09:48] <grahamldlw> maybe i shud learn python next considering i've now learnt a full/ish programming language
[09:52] <grahamldlw> anyway im going adios
[10:09] <theresa> my heart beats for edubuntu :D
[10:16] <cbx33> ahh
[10:16] <cbx33> awww
[10:16] <cbx33> hehe
[10:16] <pygi> theresa: ^_^
[10:17] <nixternal> mine beats for KDE, but it pumps Edubuntu blood ;)
[10:24] <stgraber> nixternal: ping
[10:24] <nixternal> fdjlajfldsajlj$*#@)($)@
[10:25] <nixternal> ok
[10:25] <nixternal> yo yo
[10:25] <stgraber> can you join 5000, I just want to be sure that I don't do any noise (My laptop microphone is buggy, so I use a dummy input)
[10:25] <nixternal> sure
[10:26] <nixternal> i hear some ticking
[10:26] <stgraber> and now ?
[10:26] <nixternal> it stopped
[10:26] <nixternal> i hear the popping and crackling, but very faint
[10:26] <cbx33> echo cancellation ;)
[10:26] <cbx33> that was annyoing mine
[10:27] <stgraber> I really have the worst laptop soundcard :)
[10:27] <stgraber> I can use my microphone input but only during 5 minutes
[10:27] <stgraber> after that the sounds enter something like a loop and I have to restart the driver (stop X, reload it and start X)
[10:27] <stgraber> really annoying :)
[10:28] <stgraber> the only way I have found, is to use dummy as the input and then I got no crash (but no mic :( )
[10:28] <stgraber> nixternal: thx
[10:28] <nixternal> no prob
[10:30] <theresa> pygi: i simply love it....but again I fear that at the moment it's only suited for kids below 10 years....
[10:30] <stgraber> Anyone of you tried one of these USB soundcard (or headset) ?
[10:30] <pygi> theresa: will be there, don't worry for all the rest
[10:30] <pygi> theresa: and if you know how, you can customize for needs of older children
[10:30] <theresa> pygi: cool :)
[10:31] <theresa> pygi: hehe, that's it....I'm a noob when it comes to writing programs...
[10:31] <pygi> theresa: no, no writing programs :) Just installing different set of software
[10:33] <theresa> i've found these links.... edu.kde.org and http://www.gnomefiles.org/subcategory.php?sub_cat_id=49 seems to be the only edu-programs so far?!
[10:34] <pygi> edu.kde.org is KDEedu, we have that ^_^
[10:34] <pygi> theresa: there are no a LOT of edu apps, that much is true
[10:35] <theresa> hehe ok, i'm relieved, i just need to find them haha ;)
[10:35] <pygi> theresa: don't use some random thingies :)
[10:35] <pygi> Feel free to explore synaptic
[10:37] <theresa> i much rather prefer adept instead of synpatic ;) it's the same basically, isn't it?
[10:37] <theresa> but if it's necessary, i'll use synpatic as well :)
[10:38] <pygi> use adept if you really like it :P
[10:49] <cbx33> hey Fujitsu
[10:51] <Fujitsu> Hi cbx33.


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