[20:27] <natjo2> wols_: because the only way i can connect to the internet is using sudo pppoeconf
[20:27] <PeterP24> ah the C irc chanel ok; I'm not used to your notations here in the chat
[20:27] <Kremlin[NA]> Hello, I just upgraded to 8.04 and when idle in system monitor my CPU usage is about 70%, thou no Processes are taking anything above 2%... Can anyone tell me what is happening?
[20:27] <wols_> enterneo: you talk about gnome. I don't know there
[20:27] <ASULutzy> Ironeye: heh, this isn't exactly the channel for that, but do you have a factory restore CD? Or some kind of cd that came with the system to restore it to original settings? Otherwise, do you have a restore partition on your hard drive that came with a system restore thing installed to it?
[20:27] <wiijii> use compiz-config-settings?
[20:27] <wols_> natjo2: then you bypass your router
[20:27] <Cliph> /ignore #ubuntu JOIN PART QUITS
[20:27] <mortal1> has anyone here ever installed a telnet server? (yes I know it's horribly insecure, yes I know ssh is better)
[20:27] <Ward1983> is there a good asterisk tutorial / howto anywhere out there? google doesnt seem to come up with anything
[20:27] <wiijii> Cliph: thanks
[20:27] <rampageoberon> Kremlin[NA]: in system monitor do View all processes and see what is using up the CPU
[20:27] <wols_> Cliph: you don't use apt to install your own packages. use dpkg
[20:27] <mortal1> I installed the telnet server, but I can't seem to start it no matter what I try
[20:28] <Cliph> wols_: I do, I have my own apt repository for this
[20:28] <compubomb> can you compile and install alsa-dev on top of the current alsa driver on ubuntu ?
[20:28] <wols_> Cliph: then it's not set up properly
[20:28] <rampageoberon> Kremlin[NA]: by default system monitor only shows you your processes, so you want to see all users processes
[20:28] <enterneo> wols_: "Unfortunately, this may not be true if your grandmother expects to connect to a Windows/SMB/CIFS share. After upgrading, we discovered that we couldn't connect to our corporate servers with 8.04, despite having no problems with 7.10 and previous versions. Upon investigation, this proved due to a known and unfixed bug related to GNOME 2.22's new virtual filing system and Active Directory, which fails to establish authentication properly under various c
[20:28] <natjo2> wols_: so by doing ppoeconf i've bypassed my router and so how can i disable the pppoeconf?
[20:28] <compubomb> i need to install the newest dev package to get my emu 0404 usb 2.0 sound card working.
[20:28] <wiijii> hmm that didn't work, still lots of joins and leaves
[20:28] <wols_> natjo2: don't run pppd
[20:28] <Cliph> wols_: that would seem to be the case, it works in all other cases, and my metapackages were working previously, so I don't understand the message
[20:28] <rampageoberon> wiijii: xchat?
[20:29] <Ironeye> ASULutzy:  Its because I upgraded to ubuntu 8.04 and to many things are going wrong. when I try boot windows using the disc it says hard disk drive not found. So as I'm more familiar with windows I would rather go back to that.
[20:29] <wiijii> weechat
[20:29] <wiijii> console
[20:29] <natbet> firefox and other things that use audio won't open/play, how do I see what is locking up the audio device?
[20:29] <rampageoberon> wiijii: sorry no idea
[20:29] <compubomb> i just don't want to install alsa driver on top if it will screw up my system.
[20:29] <wiijii> np
[20:29] <ASULutzy> Ironeye: That's probably not a huge problem?
[20:29] <wols_> Cliph: your new packages are NOT in your repo.end of story. either you put them in or you use dpkg, your choice
[20:29] <Grim76__> wiijii: /ignore * join #ubuntu freenode
[20:29] <ASULutzy> Ironeye: You probably just need to edit the grub line for Windows
[20:29] <wols_> Cliph: and next time come here DIRECTLY
[20:29] <Kremlin[NA]> rampageoberon: View -> All processes? there is xord at 7% and vinoserver at 12% thats all
[20:29] <rampageoberon> its still taking 705 CPU Kremlin[NA]
[20:29] <wols_> Cliph: fiddle util apt-cache policy shows a candidate from your repo
[20:29] <Ironeye> ASULutzy:  how do i go about doing that?
[20:29] <Cliph> wols_: yes, my debian packages are in the relevant distro of my repository, I know this bwecause I created the new distro
[20:29] <rampageoberon> Kremlin[NA]: 70%?
[20:29] <ASULutzy> Ironeye: give us the output of sudo fdisk -l in order to figure out where Windows is actually installed to
[20:30] <Cliph> wols_: look at my output, it does show it
[20:30] <RULR> my outgoing messages in evolution mail not working
[20:30] <Next1> How can I renew my IP address?
[20:30] <Cliph> it shows the very one is says that will not be installed
[20:30] <Grim76__> wiijii: you can substitute part and quit in there for the necessary messages.
[20:30] <wols_> Cliph: it's not the meta package that has to be in ther. ALL, including dependencies have to be
[20:30] <Ironeye> ASULutzy:  whats that website i paste it to?
[20:30] <Techiedragon> Ok.. I admit it, I am a serial ubuntu killer ... :(
[20:30] <ASULutzy> !paste | Ironeye
[20:30] <Cliph> wols_: all of my packages are in the repository
[20:30] <wols_> Cliph: and the -gui policy output you showed me DID NOT have it as a candidate
[20:31] <natjo2> wols_: i'm sorry for bugging you but how do i not run pppd wouldn't that disable my internet?
[20:31] <wols_> Cliph: apt-cache policy output for the -gui one then
[20:31] <Kremlin[NA]> rampageoberon: yeah it is.. but strangely if I navigate away from the "resources" tab for a bit and then return I can see that when NOT having the resources tab open the CPU % drops to about 20%, but then returns to about 70% when I return to the "resources" tab
[20:31] <wiijii> Grim76_: cheers mate
[20:31] <wols_> natjo2: unisntall pppd
[20:31] <apastinen> hi, i just move from gentoo to ubuntu (hardy), is there "testing" and "unstable" sources like debian had?
[20:31] <Ironeye> ASULutzy:  here you go http://paste.ubuntu.com/19122/
[20:31] <Pici> apastinen: No. Ubuntu is not a rolling release like Debian is.
[20:31] <pub> anyone use roottail ?
[20:31] <Grim76__> wiijii: Ran into the same things myself...I use weechat for 99% of my irc time.
[20:31] <ASULutzy> Ironeye: You typed it wrong. sudo fdisk -l
[20:31] <Techiedragon> I installed Xorg; or tried to at least; and now when the system boots; it gets to a point where it freezes and I can't do anything.  If I try to reboot into recovery mode I get the same thing.  I can't seem to do much at the grub command linel.
[20:31] <ASULutzy> Ironeye: that's a lowercase L
[20:31] <rampageoberon> Kremlin[NA]: in my experience gnome-system-monitor takes a lot of CPU, to try something else install and try using htop in command line
[20:31] <Cliph> wols_: http://pastebin.com/d775b6e79
[20:32] <apastinen> Pici: so i just have to live kernel what i now have?
[20:32] <Techiedragon> What should the grub menu look like for recoverymode?
[20:32] <afabian> apastinen: My impression is that one wanting to run unstable software ought to have some fortitude in reading official documentation and figuring out the development process.  But, anyway, all Linux distributions have some kind of development branch, and you can usually run it.  Ubuntu is no different.
[20:32] <Cliph> Depends: jazinga-gui (>= 1.10.2) but it is not going to be installed
[20:32] <wiijii> Grim76_: yeah irc is pretty much ideally suited to console
[20:32] <Ironeye> ASULutzy:  lets try again http://paste.ubuntu.com/19123/
[20:32] <wols_> Cliph: and you still get http://pastebin.com/d3ff76a8b ?
[20:33] <john_> can voice chat is possible in ubuntu 8.04
[20:33] <Next1> How can I "repair" a network connection?
[20:33] <wiijii> Has anyone turned up that knows anything about VTK or visualisation, esp. in Python?
[20:33] <Cliph> wols_: yes
[20:33] <julle_> Is there a solution to why my background disappears when i startup my comp. Yes i have compiz running
[20:33] <Pici> apastinen: The closest thing to a testing repo is -proposed. But thats not really the same thing.  Yes, just the live kernel plus any little patches, not a full version bump
[20:33] <natjo2> wols_: and that is done by going to synaptic?
[20:33] <mortal1> does ubuntu 8.04 have something that keeps it from working correctly with my ata cdrom?
[20:33] <Kremlin[NA]> rampageoberon: if I quickly switch between resources and processes tab I can see that it is "Xorg" which is taking all the resources. But as I navigate away Xorg falls to sleep instantly
[20:33] <twiztidmind> is there anyway to get past this X-DOM shit when i download video files, i know it's an encoder but how do i get them to work without buying the decoder
[20:33] <apastinen> afabian: great, so how can i get newer kernel?
[20:33] <wols_> Cliph: I actually don't believe you. ask someone else
[20:33] <mortal1> I mean, i can boot the cd, i can usually start the install, and then it craps out
[20:33] <apastinen> Pici: sounds great..
[20:33] <MrE--> Hey guys. Im new to Ubuntu (installed yesterday), and I was wondering what email server is the best?
[20:33] <ASULutzy> Ironeye: Oh... So you overwrote your Windows partition... Yea, so Windows is completely gone, that's a bummer. Also there's no restore partition on your hard drive. If you want to go back to Windows from here you'll need either a system restore CD that came with your computer, or a Windows install CD.
[20:33] <rampageoberon> Kremlin[NA]: yes i get the same from Xorg occassionally, no idea what to do about it
[20:34] <joaopinto> !best | MrE--
[20:34] <john_> how can do voice chat in ubuntu
[20:34] <jtaylor13> group: how do i install this? NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.05-pkg1.run
[20:34] <unavailable> ironeye do you have a legit key for windows?
[20:34] <Jrz> ./NV......
[20:34] <mortal1> it's kinda a bummer because I was really looking forward to the new lts version, given that 6.06 was so solid
[20:34] <Jrz> or sh NVIDIAxxxxxxxxx
[20:34] <joaopinto> john_, I am only experienced with skype, but there are several voip capable apps, just search on the repositories
[20:34] <Ironeye> ASULutzy:  well thats the thing.. i put the windows cd in. it loads all the files then when coming to install it says cannot find hard disk drives , make sure they are pwerd on :s
[20:34] <compubomb> how would someone go about getting extended memmory support in ubuntu ? i'm running the i686 kernel generic, but my system have 4gb of ram, core2duo e6400, i would think it hsould show atleast 3gb of ram, but it only lists 2gb.
[20:34] <twiztidmind> anavailable wich version of windows
[20:34] <apastinen> Pici: btw. thanks anyway :)
[20:34] <john_> k k
[20:35] <Ironeye> unavailable:  whats that?
[20:35] <wols_> compubomb: check for a bigmem kernel
[20:35] <Kremlin[NA]> rampageoberon: Strange.. and I guess its only there when the resources tab is open :( Doesnt Xorg have something to do with the graptics? Could I be that I have a custom resolution or bad numbers in my custom res ?
[20:35] <jtaylor13> group: how do i install this? NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.05-pkg1.run
[20:35] <afabian> apastinen: Someone mentioned proposed.  I'd stay away from messing with the kernel unless you're having a problem.   I'd look in the proposed updates repository, download the deb manually, and install it, rather than updating the proposed repository.
[20:35] <Andri[DK]> Is it possible to remotely change display managers for other users?
[20:35] <ASULutzy> Ironeye: That hard drive is probably a SATA drive, and XP won't install to those without the right drivers
[20:35] <wols_> !nvidia | jtaylor13
[20:35] <krzysztof> Who`s using Compiz Fusion?
[20:35] <afabian> apastinen: Rather than enabling the proposed repository, I mean.
[20:35] <Ironeye> ASULutzy:  this pc used to run windows untill i installed windows
[20:35] <rampageoberon> Kremlin[NA]: Xorg is pretty much responsible for your desktop (X window sytem)
[20:35] <wols_> Andri[DK]: there is only one display manager for everyone on the system
[20:36] <Ironeye> unavailable:  if you mean a legal windows disc then yes i do
[20:36] <unavailable> asulutzy i have sata, xp mce installed just fine without drivers
[20:36] <rampageoberon> Kremlin[NA]: no idea about resoultions
[20:36] <ASULutzy> Ironeye: Right, but XP will not install to a SATA drive from cd without the correct drivers
[20:36] <wols_> Ironeye: this is #ubuntu, not ##windows
[20:36] <wols_> !ot | ASULutzy
[20:36] <natjo2> wols_: when i go to synaptic three things with ppp are installed: ppp, pppconfi, and pppoeconf. do i uninstall all of them?
[20:36] <Tobias92> Openoffice won't launch :(. No response when I click it in the menu, and when I type it in a terminal it just sits there, no output at all.
[20:36] <unavailable> asulutzy i had it work just fine with SATA with no drivers
[20:36] <Ironeye> wols_:  im running ubuntu and it caused more problems than its worth so i can sort issues out in her
[20:36] <wols_> unavailable: this is #ubuntu. please keep on topic
[20:37] <compubomb> wols_: nothing like that exists, i don't see anything involving the words bigmem
[20:37] <wols_> Ironeye: the problem you are discussing right now is not ubuntu
[20:37] <apastinen> afabian: i think i can live with it by setting apt::default something i can't remember it has many years i have use it..
[20:37] <Kremlin[NA]> rampageoberon: Ahh ok, just seems so strange.. I dont want to CPu working at 70% 24/7 when its a server and is never turned off
[20:37] <Andri[DK]> wols: what I mean is that if i'm root. Can I make the user run the program on his own desktop. F.e. if I wan't to change window managers when battery power is initiated
[20:37] <compubomb> i did apt-cache search kernel | grep "bigmem"
[20:37] <compubomb> nothing.
[20:37] <wols_> compubomb: what videocard(s) do you have? how much memory?
[20:37] <afabian> apastinen: If you just want to enable proposed, there's a checkbox in the Synaptic options to do it.
[20:37] <joaopinto> Ironeye, so either you post your Ubuntu problems here or you join ##windows for your windows problems
[20:37] <compubomb> wols_: my pc has 4gb of ram, i have 2 7600gt video cards in sli
[20:37] <wols_> Andri[DK]: I don't get what you mean
[20:37] <rampageoberon> Kremlin[NA]: if its a pure server you don't need the gui, see ubuntu server
[20:37] <Ironeye> wols_:  since installing it i have had no end of problems, if someone here can help then where is the harm
[20:37] <stu_> hi, how can I determine which driver/module is enabling a USB device? I want to remove it and replace it with a new driver
[20:37] <ASULutzy> wols_, Ironeye, unavailable: Sorry, just trying to help someone out. @unavailable, that's why it breaks during setup and says "Push f8 to install custom drivers" or whatever. But yea, sorry this topic is out of the scope of #ubuntu I suppose. Ironeye if you want to pm me I suppose I could and help you from there, but Windows in general is fussy about what you install it to. The reason it's saying it doesn't detect any hard drives is becau
[20:38] <wols_> compubomb: I mean videocard ram
[20:38] <Andri[DK]> wols: I'm trying to write a acpi script that kills compiz when I'm on battery power but I also need it to start metacity
[20:38] <apastinen> afabian: eh.. ok i try to find it.. i don't normally like this graphical ui..
[20:38] <compubomb> wols_: 512mb i believe
[20:38] <rampageoberon> Kremlin[NA]: my computer is never turned off too, it does take a lot of cpu occassionally but not alwaus
[20:38] <compubomb> wols_: i don't care about the video card memmory, i want my PC memmory to show up greater than 2gb
[20:38] <Next1> sudo dhclient
[20:38] <wols_> Andri[DK]: root can become any user and start stuff as this user. so your script could too
[20:38] <compubomb> wols_: i have 4gb of ddr2 pc800 ram.
[20:38] <afabian> apastinen: If you really want to, you can uncomment the lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and update your sources.. however you do it.  With aptitude, or whatever.
[20:38] <compubomb> it should show atleast 3gb or something.
[20:39] <wols_> compubomb: I don't care about what you say either then. have a nice day
[20:39] <compubomb> wols_: :/
[20:39] <linuxkrn> I'm getting a ton of unknown symbol errors when I try to load the rt73usb driver, how can I update/reinstall for the kernel I'm using? (2.6.24-18-generic)
[20:39] <Andri[DK]> wols: and i'm aware how to do that in a terminal, just not how to start it in X
[20:39] <keri> im using xubuntu and when i plugged in my kodak easyshare c433 camera to the usb port, nothing showed up, neither did anytning as a drive.  what do i need to install to get this to pick up my pictures?
[20:39] <ZenoTorando> hello guys can somebody help me with an WLAN question?
[20:39] <Techiedragon> How do I get back to a promot so I can fix the problem
[20:39] <wols_> Andri[DK]: set the DISPLAY environment variable and start the X program you want to run
[20:39] <compubomb> wols_: my intention was not to upset you, i don't know how my video card has anything to do with the pc ram.
[20:39] <antirobotrobot> how can i get the latest firefox on ubunto?
[20:39] <Ironeye> ASULutzy:  you have pm
[20:40] <afabian> apastinen: Actually, there are no lines to uncomment.  You'd have to add them.  you'd just use hardy-proposed as the distribution.  man sources.list should clue you in on the file format.
[20:40] <wols_> antirobotrobot: hardy has 3.0rcsomething. this is not new enough for you?
[20:40] <joaopinto> wols_, how would is video card turn a 4 GB mem system into 2 GB, would you care to explain ?
[20:40] <bayko7> Hello, I need to install the drivers for my radeon x600 but the drivers off the site cause my xserver to not start
[20:40] <wols_> joaopinto: yes I would care. use google
[20:40] <keri> im using xubuntu and when i plugged in my kodak easyshare c433 camera to the usb port, nothing showed up, neither did anytning as a drive.  what do i need to install to get this to pick up my pictures?
[20:40] <ZenoTorando> I've a WLAN with an 13 keys HEX encryption but UBUNTO doesn't accept it...how can I get the right sttings
[20:40] <Techiedragon> I get the same thing in recovery mode.  - setting up console font and key map... then -runit  leave stage: /etc/runit/1
[20:40] <joaopinto> wols_, if are not helpfull, please leave, you are not forced to be here
[20:41] <wols_> joaopinto: have your way
[20:41] <bayko7>  Hello, I need to install the drivers for my radeon x600 but the drivers off the site cause my xserver to not start
[20:41] <Techiedragon> - runit: enter stage: /etc/runit/2
[20:41] <Techiedragon> then the system becomes unresponsive
[20:41] <antirobotrobot> wols_: i thought there might be an apt source for the very latest
[20:41] <apastinen> afabian: it seems that those are already uncommented.. maby i did something at day for it.. well anyway thanks, but i still kernel still does not work with my wlan, there is some patches to fix it but i dont want play that game..
[20:41] <apastinen> afabian: thanks anyway
[20:41] <afabian> apastinen: Ah, sorry I couldn't help . Good luck with the problem.
[20:41] <ZenoTorando> I've a WLAN with an 13 keys HEX encryption but UBUNTO doesn't accept it...how can I get the right sttings
[20:41] <nonone> hi all
[20:41] <Noodels> Hi, I've tracked a wireless+crashing issue to an irq problem. Is there a way I can fix this?
[20:41] <bayko7>  Hello, I need to install the drivers for my radeon x600 but the drivers off the site cause my xserver to not start
[20:42] <wols_> bayko7: which drivers exactly?
[20:42] <Kremlin[NA]> rampageoberon: I know I dont but Im a total linux noob go I have the gui for configuring things hehe
[20:42] <wols_> Noodels: reseat the card into another slot
[20:42] <bayko7> the linux drivers for my x600 off the ati website
[20:42] <laughtear> i need the name of the most succesful dvd burning software i can install by add/remove (to back up a recovery dvd)
[20:42] <bayko7> fglrx drivers
[20:42] <Noodels> wols_: Can I do that? It's a laptop.
[20:42] <ASULutzy> bayko7: Have you tried using EnvyNG?
[20:42] <Odd-rationale> laughtear: k3b or brasero
[20:42] <rampageoberon> Kremlin[NA]: fair enough but the server OS was made with no gui for a very good security reason
[20:43] <bayko7> I'm not sure how to go abbout installing with envy
[20:43] <wols_> Noodels: then you can't. but I don't think it's a irq problem either
[20:43] <spdf> bayko7: Have you tried using the restricted drivers application?
[20:43] <bayko7> yes
[20:43] <kerin> IS it possible to prevent installing "extra" packages?
[20:43] <Noodels> wols_: I'll get the /proc/interrupts and ask you what you think?
[20:43] <rampageoberon> Kremlin[NA]: and the best way to learn is to use the command line, as using the gui is never the solution
[20:43] <wols_> bayko7: when it fails and gets black, pastebin your Xorg.0.log file
[20:43] <ASULutzy> bayko7: Just google EnvyNG, it'll be like, the first search result
[20:43] <Kremlin[NA]> rampageoberon: Its only for personal NAS storage and private ftp.. all other ports are locked anyway so I dont think anyone would hack it anyway
[20:43] <natjo2> wols_: you didn't answer my question earlier about uninstalling pppd where do i go to do it and how
[20:43] <laughtear> Odd-rationale: ok, i know brasero, but this dvd of "hp" is protected one, probably so brasero could not make it... any alternative else?
[20:43] <wols_> natjo2: yes
[20:43] <bayko7> I'll try envy and get back to you guys, thanks a bunch
[20:43] <ASULutzy> bayko7: You should probably paste your Xorg.0.log file, and maybe dmesg has something or another
[20:44] <keri> im using xubuntu and when i plugged in my kodak easyshare c433 camera to the usb port, nothing showed up, neither did anytning as a drive.  what do i need to install to get this to pick up my pictures?
[20:44] <wols_> natjo2: the answer is yes. but: you will lose internet the at first
[20:44] <ASULutzy> bayko7: But yea, EnvyNG usually works
[20:44] <ZenoTorando> I've a WLAN with an 13 keys HEX encryption but UBUNTO doesn't accept it...how can I get the right sttings
[20:44] <bayko7> ok thank you ASULutzy
[20:44] <afabian> kerin: What are "extra" packages?
[20:44] <Starnestommy> ZenoTorando: what kind of hex encryption, wpa, wep, or something else?
[20:44] <Odd-rationale> laughtear: well, if libdvdcss2 from the medibuntu repo cannot unencrypt it then mostly likely no...
[20:45] <natjo2> wols_: so all three pppoeconf, pppconfig, and ppp
[20:45] <ZenoTorando> @Starnestommy HEX
[20:45] <ZenoTorando> WEP
[20:45] <kerin> afabian: like, when i try to install wget it says "the following extra packages will be installed:"
[20:45] <keri> does kodak cameras not get autodetected in xubuntu?
[20:45] <enterneo1> has anyone been able to mount windows shares over hardy heron successfully?
[20:45] <laughtear> Odd-rationale: arr.. that's a little bit complicated for an amateur user like me...:)
[20:45] <wols_> ZenoTorando: since WEP is totally useless, either use WPA or no encryption
[20:45] <Starnestommy> kerin: it installs other packages needed by that one
[20:46] <Techiedragon> wep can be cracked in under 3 mins
[20:46] <premier> whats that program/deamon that monitors windows and alter/set their size and other characteristics?
[20:46] <Noodels> wols_: Here is the line: 5: 471 XT-PIC-XT Intel 82801DB-ICH4, bcm43xx
[20:46] <ZenoTorando> i know i know but some older clients doesnt accept WPA so I've to use the WEP at the moment
[20:46] <wols_> laughtear: recovery DVDs are not movies. they are not encrypted withz CSS. just use any DVD software you find
[20:46] <Uplink> whats the command to check my kernel version?
[20:46] <Techiedragon> wpa2 - several million years
[20:46] <wols_> bayko7: so?
[20:46] <keri> does kodak cameras not get autodetected in xubuntu?
[20:46] <Starnestommy> Uplink: uname -r
[20:46] <keri> nobodyu is helping me
[20:46] <joaopinto> Uplink, uname -a
[20:46] <Noodels> Uplink: uname -r
[20:46] <laughtear> wols_: thanks a lot...
[20:46] <wols_> Noodels: so? PCI can have many devices sharing an IRC
[20:46] <wols_> *IRQ
[20:46] <joaopinto> keri, maybe because we have no kodak cam :) ?
[20:47] <Uplink> ty ty
[20:47] <wols_> Noodels: did you get the bcm firmware from the windows driver?
[20:47] <keri> well at least i know this works
[20:47] <keri> im using xubuntu and when i plugged in my kodak easyshare c433 camera to the usb port, nothing showed up, neither did anytning as a drive.  what do i need to install to get this to pick up my pictures?
[20:47] <Noodels> wols_: Yes, but I can show you lines from the error log when it tries to use the card if you like. But if you have any better ideas of where to look, I'd gladly listen to your advice.
[20:47] <K3rl0u4rn> i people, I am running xubuntu 7.10 and trying to run ubuntu server 8.10 in qemu 0.9.0
[20:47] <K3rl0u4rn> the installation procedure fails to detect the cdrom drive
[20:47] <K3rl0u4rn> did anyone got this problem before ?
[20:47] <wols_> Noodels: so what does the error log say?
[20:47] <Noodels> wols_: Give me a minute.
[20:47] <datapolitical> if I've got a linux driver for my motherboard (Asus PK5) I should have no trouble using a raid array as a storage partition, correct?
[20:48] <datapolitical> I just have to load the driver, my question is when during setup do I do that
[20:48] <Doug_-_-_-_> i need help getting my dual monitor to work in xp home. please
[20:48] <wols_> datapolitical: no. you have a fake raid. what you have is not a raid controller. use linux software raid
[20:48] <wols_> Doug_-_-_-_: ##windows
[20:48] <joaopinto> Doug_-_-_-_, try ##windows
[20:49] <datapolitical> has anyone in here worked with Raid 5 using a hardware controller?
[20:49] <Doug_-_-_-_> wols_, i try but it wants me to register my nick first,
[20:49] <Starnestommy> !register | Doug_-_-_-_
[20:49] <wols_> Doug_-_-_-_: then do it. we cannot help you
[20:49] <bayko7> can anyone tell me how to install the envy I downloaded the 2 .tar.gz files, not sure where to go from here
[20:49] <wols_> datapolitical: do you have a hardware controller? your mobo raid isn't one and there exists no linux driver for it either
[20:50] <wols_> !envy | bayko7
[20:50] <Doug_-_-_-_> wols_,  every email i use it sayes not working.
[20:50] <Floggin> I can't seem to get Pidgin to use ( nickserv <register> <Nick> <password>)
[20:50] <Noodels> wols_: This isn't an error I could make anything of, but this is one of the related errors, can you make anything of it? - bcm43xx: TODO: Incomplete code in keymac_write() at /build/buildd/linux-2.6.24/drivers/net/wireless/bcm43xx/bcm43xx_main.c:1112
[20:50] <Floggin> HELP
[20:50] <afancy> Hi, when all of my opened windows were hide, how can I make it not hide?
[20:50] <wols_> Doug_-_-_-_: go to #freenode then
[20:50] <Flare183> Floggin: ask in #freenode
[20:50] <Qnix> Floggin: i would like to help you but i have never use pidgin
[20:50] <Starnestommy> Floggin: open a chat with nickserv, then tell it "register <password> <email>"
[20:50] <afancy> now I just can switch windows by Alt+tab
[20:50] <wols_> Noodels: FULL log please. and not pasting in here, pastebin instead
[20:50] <Qnix> Floggin: why don't you use xchat or irssi
[20:50] <Doug_-_-_-_> wols_,  i am using freenode.
[20:51] <Flare183> ....
[20:51] <afancy> anybody help me??
[20:51] <Qnix> Floggin: Xchat is much much better than pidgin in my opinion
[20:51] <Flare183> !anyone | afancy
[20:51] <wols_> Doug_-_-_-_: #freenode is a channel name. now please go there. you don't have a ubuntu question
[20:51] <Noodels> wols_: Need an irc on the laptop now, give me a few minutes, and what is this pastebin?
[20:51] <premier> whats that program/deamon that monitors windows and alter/set their size and other characteristics?
[20:51] <wols_> !paste | Noodels
[20:51] <Dasmoover> hello, i uninstalled wine with sudo apt-get remove --purge wine, then i reinstalled it and my settings are there and nothing will run, can anyone help?
[20:51] <Floggin> thanks Fellas/Gals
[20:51] <Qnix> ubottu: ^__^ heheh
[20:51] <Floggin> so "register <password> <email> behind the /nickserv
[20:52] <datapolitical> wols, Asus lists a linux driver for the motherboard
[20:52] <afancy> ubottu:what do u mean
[20:52] <wols_> Dasmoover: wine has a ~/.wine directory for each user that used it. delete that too
[20:52] <lightrush> I need someone for testing with Intel/NVIDIA lappie - preferably DELL with problems with SUSPEND/RESUME
[20:52] <Dasmoover> wols: i did that and after a reinstall, it never remakes itself.
[20:52] <bayko7> when I type sudo apt-get install envyng-gtk it says cant find package
[20:52] <wols_> datapolitical: if you don't believe me fine. but you're still wrong. please don't talk to me anymore. good bye
[20:52] <Qnix> afancy: he means if you have a question you have to searcg for it first then ask here if you didn't find the answer
[20:52] <Floggin> Light that is a drive compatablitity  issue
[20:53] <wols_> Dasmoover: purge ALL wine packages again, delete .wine and try again
[20:53] <afancy> where to search??
[20:53] <afancy> google
[20:53] <Dasmoover> ok, what are all them called?
[20:53] <joaopinto> datapolitical, a mother board driver does not imply RAID support
[20:53] <Floggin> there is a minor bug that happens on my GoVideo 6150 Chipset at times while in XP
[20:53] <datapolitical> a raid driver
[20:53] <datapolitical> for the motherboard
[20:53] <rafae1> Hello, I am having some strange problems. I installed ubuntu, them copied to this computer the contents of my previous home folder, includen the hidden files inside my actual home folder. I don' t know exactly if my problems began at this point, cause I' ve already deleted all my hidden files and nothing. I have some strange behaviours. One is in my themes, I can' t change the window border colour, that is the same blue from my previous XFCE theme in th
[20:53] <datapolitical> scuse me
[20:54] <datapolitical> i'm wrong
[20:54] <Floggin> So will this syntax "  Floggin: open a chat with nickserv, then tell it "register <password> <email>  " while using gamesurge too if it will
[20:54] <Lynet> datapolitical: Most, if not all, "motherboard raid" is really software raid; the raid part is in the windows driver.
[20:54] <Qnix> rafae1: your having the problem because you copied your .* files that effects your theme and lots of other things
[20:55] <rafae1> Yes, but I already deleted. Created another user, and nothing. Maybe I messed something besides my home folder?
[20:55] <afancy> Hi, In ubuntu, when i minimize a window, it will hide automatically. How to make it not hide? thanks
[20:55] <afancy> does anyone meet this problem?
[20:55] <afancy> sorry, I cannot find the ansower by google
[20:56] <Starnestommy> afancy: make sure that the window list applet is on the panel
[20:56] <rafae1> Qnix: I thought creating another user would reset it, but no...
[20:56] <Floggin> that is because google sucks
[20:56] <rafae1> Qnix. Alos deleted all hidden files from roots home
[20:56] <Floggin> try using a real engine www.dogpile.com
[20:56] <Floggin> if it doesn't find it then your lost ont eh search
[20:56] <joaopinto> !language | Floggin
[20:56] <afancy> Starnestommy: what is the window list applet?
[20:57] <stemount^> joaopinto: harsh
[20:57] <datapolitical> i take it back, its a seperate raid card
[20:57] <joaopinto> afancy, when you mean, the app hides, does it get listed on the app list window ?
[20:57] <Floggin> Watch my language  what
[20:57] <ompaul> joaopinto, it is a web site
[20:57] <Qnix> rafae1: :S why!!
[20:57] <Noodels> The pastebin, when I put a syslog in there, do I put the whole syslog or just the necessary bits?
[20:57] <Starnestommy> afancy: right click on a panel, select "add to panel", then look for "window list", select it, then hit the "add" button
[20:57] <wols_> datapolitical: what chip?
[20:57] <Qnix> rafae1: deleting the hidden file will restart them and everything will be default in the next login
[20:58] <rafae1> Qnix, Yes, but didn' t work for me. I still get only blue window border, instead of normal human colours
[20:58] <rafae1> Qnix, and this strange behaviour applies to others themes...
[20:58] <joaopinto> ompaul, I am aware of that, but stating that "google sucks" is not a website, and is not helpfull either
[20:59] <afancy> Ok, thanks
[20:59] <snmpee> I'm looking for a GUI tool that will let me combine, splice and otherwise manipulate videos, most specifically FLV's
[20:59] <rafae1> Qnix I created a new user also, and this new user gets only bl;ue colours... Besides this problem of not beeing able to set my keybindings, wich I don' t know if are realted
[20:59] <jack__> #luban
[20:59] <pen> how do I force evdev to detect /dev/input/event2 again after boot?
[20:59] <Qnix> rafae1: i think its related ...
[21:00] <wols_> joaopinto: can you help people too?
[21:00] <datapolitical> yea, it's on the board, nm
[21:00] <carpediem> Hello all again
[21:00] <datapolitical> is it worth getting a raid card
[21:00] <andre> high guys
[21:00] <datapolitical> if i want to use the machine to store a shitload worth of data
[21:00] <wols_> datapolitical: depends on usage
[21:00] <rafae1> Qnix - is there a deeper why to restore the default settings than creating new user. Tried reinstallation of numerous packages, as human theme, metacity, etc. But still nothing
[21:00] <datapolitical> and not have it fail
[21:00] <Crane> hello
[21:00] <carpediem> guys, I have installed ubuntu and I had problems with my display so I used "metacity --replace" to turn compiz off
[21:00] <carpediem> but how do I remove compiz?
[21:00] <ompaul> !language | datapolitical
[21:00] <carpediem> and use metacity by default?
[21:01] <andre> I can't play any audio or video files :(  can anyone help?
[21:01] <wols_> datapolitical:  a software raid is more reliable actually
[21:01] <datapolitical> ah
[21:01] <datapolitical> using, i forget what it's called
[21:01] <Crane> Man sound problems are a pain.
[21:01] <joaopinto> rafae1, if creating a new user didn't help, than you changed system wide settings...
[21:01] <wols_> if a raidcard fails you need the exact same card again
[21:01] <Qnix> rafae1: heheheh i don't know acctually im a GUIless dude , thats why im using irssi :D
[21:01] <ompaul> datapolitical, note that the disks are the main point that might fail if your raid card goes you got problems big problems single point of failure
[21:01] <datapolitical> yea
[21:01] <rafae1> :)
[21:01] <datapolitical> so here's the config I want
[21:01] <rafae1> So what should I do?? Any step before having to install all over again
[21:01] <ompaul> !enter | datapolitical
[21:02] <wols_> datapolitical: with linux softtware raid you just reinstall the OS on another machine
[21:02] <datapolitical> right now i have 6 drives in the machine, all running raid 5
[21:02] <datapolitical> ah
[21:02] <datapolitical> oka
[21:02] <datapolitical> hehe
[21:02] <FloodBot1> datapolitical: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:02] <Qnix> rafae1: :D hope you'll find someone to help you .. or just get the important file and use windows :P LOL or reinstall deb
[21:02] <rafae1> I also work without gui in gentoo, but sometimes I use image editing programs...
[21:02] <wols_> datapolitical: stop that entiering already
[21:02] <Qnix> rafae1: ;)
[21:02] <wols_> rafae1: libcaca0 to the rescue then and you never have to leave CLI!
[21:02] <datapolitical> anyway, I'd like to (sorry about the entering) set up 4 drives in raid 5 as storage, one as a boot drive for windows, one as a boot drive for ubuntu (each drive is 250GB)
[21:02] <Qnix> rafae1: i used to work on gentoo for a long time ... i love it!!! it wastes the whole day in installing things on it :P LOL!!
[21:03] <pen> if I use evdev, the hotplug function does not work
[21:03] <pen> how do I make it work with hotplug?
[21:03] <ompaul> !lol | Qnix
[21:03] <wols_> datapolitical:  doesn't answers the question: what do you want to do with the raid
[21:03] <Qnix> ompaul: :P
[21:03] <rafae1> wols: what is licaca0
[21:03] <Qnix> ubottu: okey sorry bot
[21:03] <wols_> rafae1: libcaca. look it up
[21:03] <rafae1> ok
[21:03] <datapolitical> wols, I'd like to use it to store all the data I'd like to access in both windows and ubuntu (movies, music, etc)
[21:04] <wols_> datapolitical: not gonna happen
[21:04] <Qnix> rafae1: libcaca0
[21:04] <jenda> Any tips in salvaging data from a corrupt .doc file? Opening with OO.org results with "ASCII Filter Options" and then a "could not read data from file", while cat results in some text, then some jibberish and then an I/O error
[21:04] <Qnix> rafae1: its a library to support caca in some multimedia players like mplayer libcaca views videos in ASII
[21:04] <Qnix> rafae1: ASCII
[21:05] <wols_> jenda: file <file you want to open>
[21:05] <Lynet> datapolitical: Windows can't read a linux software-raid, so your best bet there is to set the raid up in Windows and then use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto to see if you can access the raid from Linux.
[21:05] <datapolitical> hm
[21:05] <Noodels> wols_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19128/
[21:05] <wols_> datapolitical: ideally you buy yourself something like an icybox and put it under your table
[21:06] <Noodels> Is that right? I wasn't sure whether to put the whole thing or not.
[21:06] <jenda> wols_: that just outputs "data"
[21:06] <snmpee> Lynet i think it's a fair statement to say that hardware raid is generally preferable
[21:06] <wols_> Noodels: un  6 16:33:16 amanda-laptop NetworkManager: <info>  Activation (wlan1/wireless): association took too long (>60s), failing activation.
[21:06] <Lynet> datapolitical: But as wols_ said, the best solution is probably to separate the storage to a separate box and access it over the network. Will remove any worries about which file syustem you should use on the raid.
[21:06] <joseph> hi all. how do i change my login screen?
[21:06] <wols_> jenda: doesn't look like it's a OOo file then
[21:07] <andre> !askthebot help
[21:07] <datapolitical> yea
[21:07] <datapolitical> what's a good external box to put the drives in?
[21:07] <datapolitical> Icy
[21:07] <Noodels> wols_: Works fine for all the wireless devices running windows in the house.
[21:07] <joseph> hi all. how do i change my login screen?
[21:07] <snmpee> joseph you're asking the wrong question. What needs changing about it?
[21:07] <joseph> i just want it to look nicer
[21:07] <datapolitical> (icy, but which box?)
[21:07] <rafae1> Ok, i will see it latter. But for restoring siustems setting in ubuntu no clue? Thought just reinstalling packages would be a solution bu t nope
[21:07] <snmpee> joseph you mean a different wallpaper or something?
[21:07] <joseph> ya
[21:08] <jenda> wols_: it's a damaged .doc - the computer froze during the saving (for other reasons)
[21:08] <snmpee> joseph have you bothered trying google yet?
[21:08] <nickrud> !google | snmpee
[21:08] <SeaBass> yes and i got a website with themes, however most dont even work so i was wondering if there was a way to make my own
[21:09] <snmpee> http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/Tweaking_Ubuntu_Themes_wallpapers_icons_and_fonts
[21:09] <andre> I can't play any audio or video files :(  can anyone help?  but youtube works...
[21:09] <wols_> jenda: then let's hope you have backups
[21:09] <fserve> how i can make a upgrade to use intrepid ibex?
[21:09] <wols_> !avi | andre
[21:09] <jenda> wols_: hehe :)
[21:09] <wols_> jenda: no laughing matter. I am serious
[21:09] <joaopinto> fserve, try #ubuntu+1
[21:09] <noishe> is there a way to kick X back to the origianl xorg.conf that installed. the joys of nvidia seem to have messed it all up and nvidia-settings refuses to run even after doing what it tells me to do. the drivers installed fine, and effects worked. until try'n to make the second monitor work.
[21:09] <rafae1> I get this at .xsessionerrors
[21:10] <rafae1>  /usr/share/themes/Darklooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc:181: Invalid symbolic color 'tooltip_bg_color'
[21:10] <wols_> Noodels: for starters don't use ndiswrapper. your chip is now supported directly with thelinux kernel
[21:10] <jenda> wols_: I understood ;) There isn't much you can do other than laugh :)
[21:10] <datapolitical> will NTFS work with ubuntu
[21:10] <datapolitical> or should i use fat32
[21:10] <Noodels> wols_: I shouldn't be using it. I used the fwcutter method.
[21:10] <wols_> jenda: I didn't laugh. you did
[21:10] <wols_> Noodels: you should
[21:10] <joaopinto> datapolitical, NTFS will work
[21:10] <wols_> datapolitical: ntfs-3g works fine
[21:10] <ASULutzy> datapolitical: You mean for storage right? NTFS works fine for that
[21:11] <sofiankrt> how do I make ps output only the pid?
[21:11] <fserve> joaopinto, thank ya
[21:11] <datapolitical> ASUlutzy yes, for storage
[21:11] <joaopinto> sofiankrt, man ps :)
[21:11] <Noodels> wols: I mean, is the ndiswrapper on? I used the fwcutter method.
[21:11] <jenda> wols_: sure, I meant, there's nothing much _I_ can do other than laugh. Anyway, thanks for the help :)
[21:11] <wols_> Noodels: do not use ndiswrappre. it's not needed anymore
[21:11] <nickrud> sofiankrt, pidof works well for that
[21:11] <wols_> jenda: you can try to get ascii from the file with strings for example
[21:12] <Noodels> wols_: Well I'm not aware that I'm using it, hold on a moment while I put lsmod into the pastebin.
[21:12] <jenda> wols_: how? cat reports an I/O error
[21:12] <sofiankrt> nickrud: thanks
[21:12] <wols_> Noodels: Jun  6 16:32:16 amanda-laptop NetworkManager: <info>  Using plain AP_SCAN 2 for ndiswrapper
[21:13] <wols_> jenda: then check your disk with smartmontools. you might have a bad harddisk
[21:13] <Noodels> wols_: >_>' Is that the problem?
[21:13] <mystery_> can any show me how to get to the compiz forum
[21:13] <wols_> Noodels: can be
[21:13] <Industries> [16:12] <Industries> Is it possible to build a cheap $100 gaming rig if you already have some parts?
[21:13] <Industries> [16:12] <Industries> I mainly want to play The Orange Box since I bought it and it won't play on my Mac.
[21:13] <snmpee> what's some cool new software that i might not be aware of as far as organizational utilities
[21:13] <Noodels> wols_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19130/
[21:13] <wols_> Industries: wrong channel. go to #hardware
[21:14] <Industries> wols_, thanks
[21:14] <andre> wols_: yes will use free formats :)
[21:14] <sofiankrt> nickrud: one more thing, if I do    ps -e | grep ftp      the output will give me all the details of the process which have 'ftp' in their names, such as vsftpd, but pidof doesn't seem to do that
[21:14] <Noodels> wols_: Index 26
[21:14] <jenda> wols_: nope, that's not the reason - saving the file was interrupted. Anyway, I salvaged part of it with cat, the rest I'll leave. Thanks for the tips :)
[21:14] <mute1> is there anyway to sort by popularity in kubuntu's adept?  i can do it w/ ubuntu, but not kubuntu
[21:14] <wols_> adama: what "free" ones will you use? not many out there...
[21:14] <sofiankrt> nickrud: processes*
[21:14] <wols_> Noodels: yes. "0". means "NOT USED"
[21:14] <mystery_> Hello all
[21:14] <wols_> Noodels: 43 ndiswrapper           192920  0
[21:14] <andre> !mp3
[21:15] <Noodels> wols_: Oh.. Bugger..
[21:15] <mystery_> Does anyone know how to use sky dome
[21:15] <wols_> Noodels: in your logs there is ndiswrapper showing, period
[21:15] <mystery_> on compiz
[21:15] <wols_> !compiz | mystery_
[21:15] <joaopinto> sofiankrt, if you are trying to get the pids from all ftp processes: ps -ef | grep ftp | awk ' {print $2}'
[21:15] <Noodels> wols_: So then I need to disable it. Modprobe can blacklist it right?
[21:15] <wols_> andre: mp3 is not free either
[21:16] <snmpee> Tip that might save you an hour: if your sound is off when you upgrade to Hardy, check to see if the "Front" slider in ALSAmixer is turned all the way down. For some reason it did that to me on the upgrade
[21:16] <nickrud> sofiankrt, sounds right, pidof is intended to get the pid (what you asked for)
[21:17] <b4dreligion> hi all
[21:17] <b4dreligion> need some help
[21:17] <sofiankrt> nickrud: but if I search for ftp, it won't give me vsftpd, gftp etc, just ftp, right?
[21:17] <snmpee> Is it safe to say it's best to uninstall the nvidia driver before upgrading to Hardy?
[21:17] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: thanks! what does the awk part do?
[21:18] <joaopinto> sofiankrt, it parses the line into parameters (space delimited), and it prints the second parameter (which is the pid)
[21:18] <b4dreligion> ive made the download of ubunto but when i try to install the loader keeps loading for 5 minutes and then it appears a black screen with  letters
[21:18] <Noodels> wols_: A line a just found in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, is this important?: blacklist bcm43xx
[21:18] <snmpee> i <3 that Hardy plays flash videos on AMD64 without a special hack
[21:18] <wols_> snmpee: depends on the driver. if you installed it the ubuntu way, it will be fine. if you didn#t all bets are off
[21:18] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: is there a simpler way of getting the pid?
[21:19] <snmpee> wols_ hahahaha the ubuntu way doesn't give you the latest drivers with better accelleration in WINE games, so no.
[21:19] <joaopinto> sofiankrt, erm, using awk is simple, and a regular way to do it
[21:19] <wols_> snmpee: you are a bit mistaken. but to be expected
[21:19] <nickrud> sofiankrt, phonr
[21:19] <nox-Hand> Hey
[21:20] <dublpaws> I'm upgrading from gutsy to 8.04, the installer reports a popup "Could not install <some-package-name>" a disheartening number of times. maybe 1/8 of all packages. Is this normal?
[21:20] <nox-Hand> Are there any tools that make it easy to rip video from a DVI camera available on Ubuntu repos?
[21:20] <prower> Is it just me or does the updated Firefox seem to have a lot of trouble rendering sites all of a sudden? I've seen weird rendering errors on Facebook, Hotmail, GMail, Slashdot a few other sites
[21:20] <snmpee> wols_ updating very seldom gives me the latest nvidia driver man it's a version off usually
[21:20] <wols_> dublpaws: what packages exactly and where did they come from?
[21:20] <wols_> snmpee: please stop talking to me
[21:20] <dublpaws> wols_: all over the board.
[21:20] <sofiankrt> nickrud: what's phonr?
[21:21] <andre> wols_: yes I'm aware, will convert them...
[21:21] <snmpee> wols_: please don't be rude.
[21:21] <wols_> dublpaws: I am not psychic so I cannot know what their names are. stop talking to me until you can actually answer the posed question
[21:21] <nickrud> sofiankrt, typo, on phone at work (on hold at the sec, brb)
[21:21] <dublpaws> ssl-cert, cupsys, .. are the most recent wols_
[21:21] <wols_> snmpee: I said "please". and it would be really good manners if you actually followed the polite request
[21:21] <dublpaws> wols_: then don't help. I was wondering if it was typical.
[21:22] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: do I use back ticks or single quotes?
[21:22] <wols_> dublpaws: that is strange since those are ubuntu core packages
[21:22] <wols_> dublpaws: check with apt-cache policy if your local apt knows about them
[21:22] <joaopinto> wobblywu, single quotes
[21:22] <joaopinto> erm, i mean sofiankrt
[21:22] <wobblywu> joaopinto, thanks :)
[21:22] <snmpee> wols_: please stop talking to me i thought you wanted to end the conversation. my goodness and heavens to betsy were you born in a stable
[21:22] <wobblywu> ;P
[21:22] <orgthingy> why Portable drivers are read only??
[21:23] <orgthingy> how can i solve this problem?
[21:23] <wols_> orgthingy: what filesystem?
[21:23] <orgthingy> wols_what do u mean by "filesystem"
[21:23] <Ro_meo_> I have the intel GMA X3100 vga and just installed 804 - read ubuntuforum and my problem is : How to activate the DVI and VGA outputs... I cannot choose the 2 monitors with resapplet because one of the screens go blank. Monitors are 1650x1050 and 1024x768
[21:23] <Noodels> wols_: If I replaced the line in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist blacklist bcm43xx and replaced it with blacklist ndiswrapper, it should work?
[21:24] <wols_> !filesystem
[21:24] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: can I just ps -e | grep fox | awk '{print $1}' ?
[21:24] <wols_> Noodels: unlikely
[21:24] <joaopinto> sofiankrt, that will just get the username...
[21:24] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: to get the pid for firefox?
[21:24] <_slow> Noodels: you'll need to ask the question in the form of a question
[21:24] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: ps -e, not ps -fe
[21:24] <dog> ~dvd
[21:24] <joaopinto> sofiankrt, on that case its safer to use "firefox", otherwise you mau catch wrong items
[21:24] <dog> !dvd
[21:24] <joaopinto> ah, ok :)
[21:24] <andy56_uk> Hi all.  I'm new to Ubuntu (and Linux) and have a problem with my network configuration.  I've posted a synopsis at the following link if anyone can offer any suggestions or advice.  http://jandax.pastebin.com/f2f8c944e
[21:24] <orgthingy> wols_: i have 8.04 and the portable driver is a Palm
[21:25] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: yeah, bad example. I meant something like getting all ftp processes
[21:25] <Noodels> Alright, so I should definitely blacklist my ndiswrapper somehow? And if so, how?
[21:25] <wols_> orgthingy: and what type of filesystem does it use?
[21:25] <delmar> hi everyone. I can't seem to start my 64bit desktop install. I WAS having issues similar to this post http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=421876 but have overcome this.  Now all I get no matter what I do is an (initramfs) prompt in a BusyBox shell.  The installer wont start.  Same if I try to boot to the live demo option, I just get BusyBox shell.
[21:25] <delmar> Anyone have any ideas?
[21:25] <orgthingy> wols_: god knows
[21:25] <orgthingy> wols_: but in general, how do i solve this problem?
[21:25] <johnnypea> !atom
[21:25] <wols_> orgthingy: different mount options. gid,uid and umask.
[21:26] <wols_> orgthingy: if you have mounted the palm already you know what filesystem. otherwise you couldn't have mounted it
[21:26] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: so I can just     sudo kill `ps -e | grep ftp | awk '{print $1}'`       to kill all ftp processes?
[21:27] <orgthingy> wols_: i mounted it like 1 week ago, but i "decided" to ask now and i think i lost my palm :P
[21:27] <_slow> delmar judging from this forum thread you've posted, there's several reasons why I would suggest this: Start over. Reason #1) you're installing Feisty and Hardy is out now Reason #2) You're not going yet so you won't lose valuable data and #3) it's way easier to reinstall than to fix a broken install
[21:27] <joaopinto> sofiankrt, for killing is just easier to: sudo killall ftp
[21:27] <joaopinto> :)
[21:27] <delmar> _slow, ah sorrt. I AM installing 8.04
[21:27] <_slow> delmar oh
[21:27] <battlesaq>   _________________________________________________
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[21:27] <battlesaq> +------------------------------------------------+ |
[21:27] <battlesaq> | wols_: http://www.feem.net/~deadbum/debian.jpg | |
[21:27] <battlesaq> +------------------------------------------------+/
[21:27] <FloodBot1> battlesaq: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:28] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: oh? that's much easier!
[21:28] <joaopinto> :)
[21:28] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: and that will kill vsftpd, gftp etc, or just ftp?
[21:28] <nickrud> battlesaq, please don't do that
[21:28] <delmar> _slow, but its the same problem.. or was.. I was only getting.. kernel alive, then kernel direct mapping tables blah blah.. then it would stop and do nothing.
[21:28] <joaopinto> sofiankrt, only "ftp" processes
[21:28] <nickrud> sofiankrt, you get yourself setup
[21:28] <delmar> after doing the nospach noapic thing it works more.
[21:29] <sofiankrt> nickrud: pardon?
[21:29] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: gah, I'll just write a script to do it
[21:29] <joaopinto> for the previous approach: ps -e | grep ftp | awk '{print $1}' | sudo xargs kill
[21:29] <_slow> delmar have you checked for a newer BIOS version for your board? The APIC problem is usually fixed when the BIOS people make new releases
[21:29] <nickrud> sofiankrt, supposed to be question, I see you're talking to someone about it (work sometimes takes precedence, I'm pretty good about ignoring it when I can :)
[21:29] <Noodels> wols_: So what do you think this problem is? Just ndiswrapper?
[21:29] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: what's xargs?
[21:29] <joaopinto> sofiankrt, man xargs :)
[21:29] <cyphase> ohhh, latest firefox is in hardy-proposed
[21:30] <hypoluxa> why did battlesaq get banned?
[21:30] <_slow> delmar this isn't #hardware but also keep in mind that newer BIOS doesn't necessarily mean it's teh right BIOS. always read the release notes.
[21:30] <wols_> Noodels: the problem is your auth took too long
[21:30] <ingo> hallo! i installed ubuntustudio the last days - in this repo-package is a audio-package for system events - is there a audio-package for [main] ubuntu hardy!?
[21:30] <delmar> _slow, yep. latest bios but in fact... if I remove 'quiet' and add nosplash and dont bother with noapic it does still boot up and do more. takes a while tho but it never ever starts the UI or install or anything. all i get is the (initramfs) prompt in the BusyBox shell
[21:30] <Noodels> wols_: What could cause+fix that?
[21:30] <_slow> delmar additionally have you tried installing by turning off APIC in CMOS?
[21:31] <wols_> another driver possibly
[21:31] <_slow> *by/after
[21:31] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: lol, shoulda known
[21:31]  * delcoyote hi
[21:31] <sofiankrt> nickrud: no, but we're discussing the best way to kill a process, don't you agree?
[21:32] <nickrud> sofiankrt, yeah, I like xargs myself :)
[21:32] <delmar> _slow, didn't see an option to disable apic in bios.  lets assume for a moment thats not the issue though because I was able to boot with or without that noapic boot option.
[21:32] <sofiankrt> nickrud: so I've come out with the conclusion that writing a script asking for user input and then substituting it is the best way
[21:32] <_slow> delmar restate the question i'm out of ideas
[21:32] <Noodels> wols_: I'm not sure where I could get different drivers, I thought it was more like one driver fits all.
[21:32] <delmar> _slow, here is my theory... by default.. all I get is the two lines.. kernel alive, and kernel direct mapping tables blah... then it seems to sit there
[21:32] <sofiankrt> nickrud: what do you think?
[21:33] <delmar> _slow, in the background it IS actually booting.. but never gets past the initramfs thing so no matter how long I leave it.. i will never see the UI initialise....
[21:33] <joaopinto> sofiankrt, what are you trying to achieve in general (besides killing the ftp processes) ?
[21:33] <wols_> Noodels: there are 3 different drivers available for your card: ndiswrapper, bcm43xx and the new ieee80211 softmac stack bcm43xx driver
[21:33] <delmar> _slow, removing 'quiet' and adding 'nosplash' I am now able to see it booting, and axs the initramfs prompt when its done...
[21:34] <sofiankrt> joaopinto: killing a process without typing in it's full name
[21:34] <delmar> _slow, so all I have achieved is to see whats really going on behind the scenes.. and need to fix whatever it is thats causing it to drop to initramfs all the time
[21:34] <Noodels> wols_: So if the ndiswrapper is a bad method to try, ( or at least, I've been told ), I should look for the ieee80211 driver?
[21:35] <_slow> delmar forgive me if this sounds pejorative but I saw this solution on a forum: Are you absolutely certain you have the AMD64 installer
[21:35] <wols_> Noodels: yes
[21:35] <delmar> _slow, naturally that must be something to do with hardware... somehow, since we know the .iso install works fine on other systems... Im just not sure what it is.
[21:35] <delmar> _slow, yep its 8.04 64bit desktop.
[21:35] <Sexygurl> I have a program trying to use a binary called C++ to compile, but I can't find any tool named C++ in the repositories, help please?
[21:35] <Sexygurl> Where could I find this tool?
[21:35] <_slow> delmar ok because there was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=716189  with the same symptoms
[21:35] <wols_> delmar: if you get the busybox shell there was an error before that. what is that error?
[21:36] <ompaul> Sexygurl, sudo apt-get install build-essential <<< do that and you will get C++ and lots more
[21:36] <wols_> !build-essential | Sexygurl
[21:36] <delmar> wols_, ok maybe I will try again and look in.. dmesg or somewhere?
[21:36] <Sexygurl> ompaul, oh... I thought I already had it...
[21:36] <delmar> wols_, didn't see anything major as I was watching the console.
[21:36] <wols_> delmar: on your screen. there is no log daemon yet when the disk the logs are on is not mounted and can't be mounted
[21:36] <ompaul> Sexygurl, obviously no
[21:36] <ompaul> ;-0
[21:37] <wols_> ompaul: C++ does not exist. g++ does
[21:37] <ompaul> wols_, there is that
[21:37] <delmar> wols_, some stuff screams past tho. is there a way to pause it?
[21:37] <wols_> Sexygurl: a binary C++ doesn't exist anywhere. C++ is the name of theprogramming language
[21:37] <ompaul> Sexygurl, ^^ see wols_ comment
[21:37] <_slow> delmar you might have to do this a couple of times. are you using a crt and it's not warming up enough for you to see the messages yet?
[21:37] <wols_> delmar: oause
[21:37] <wols_> delmar: pause
[21:37] <delmar> k
[21:37] <delmar> _slow, nah it's a DVI LCD. things are all good when it boots without quiet. I can see it all.. sometimes just a little too fast is all
[21:38] <wols_> delmar: with a serial console it would be easier
[21:38] <delmar> _slow, ill go read that post a sec.
[21:38] <_slow> all hail Technoviking
[21:38] <Noodels> wols_: Any idea where to find any of these drivers / a guide to installing them?
[21:38] <connor> sup
[21:38] <delmar> wols_, theres an idea... and i think there IS a serial post on this box... uh but there is no serial port on the laptop :(
[21:38] <NeuroShayd> hey hey
[21:38] <wols_> Noodels: the drivers are part of the ubuntu kernel (you still need the broadcom firmware of course)
[21:39] <Noodels> wols_: Great, so I just need to load them.
[21:39] <Sexygurl> wols_, but... I executed a make file and it says "c++ -Wall -g2 `pkg-config --cflags cairomm-1.0 libsvg-cairo gtkmm-2.4 libglademm-2.4` -c main.cpp -o main.o"
[21:39]  * Technoviking demands a dance beat
[21:39] <PeterP24> is this channel suited for posing a kernel compilation related question or there is a specialized channel?
[21:39] <wols_> Sexygurl: /usr/bin/c++ exists. C++ is something totally different tho (linux is always case sensitive)
[21:39] <softsantear> hi, i can't get ytalk working at all.  it doesn't seem to be configured properly after installation.  all of the information i can find about it is really dated.  does anyone use ytalk and the talk daemon?
[21:39] <delmar> _slow, last night I read that these intel cpu's are not true 64bit and stuff so I almost gave up but it seems that since my mobo and cpu are both EM64T it should work.
[21:39] <Jalathan> PeterP24: ##kernel
[21:40] <wols_> PeterP24: depends on the question. if there is a better suited one we will redirect you
[21:40] <PeterP24> k, thanks
[21:40] <Sexygurl> wols_, ok.
[21:40] <connor> whats the name of a good screen recording program?
[21:40] <neurobuntu> anybody aware of documentation about how to package your own distrobution of ubuntu?
[21:40] <nickolaus> I need some help real quick.
[21:40] <Noodels> wols_: How would I go about loading that driver?
[21:40] <ompaul> connor, istanbul
[21:40] <andy56_uk> :'( Can anyone offer any help with my network problem please?  See a synopsis at  http://jandax.pastebin.com/f2f8c944e
[21:40] <connor> neurobuntu: i used to know how
[21:40] <ompaul> !patience | nickolaus
[21:40] <_slow> delmar Oh, well if it's not really 64 bit then you should use the 32 bit
[21:40] <connor> i think i might be able to find the guide
[21:40] <wols_> delmar: they are true 64bit. who ever wrote that was without a clue. ignor them
[21:40] <joseph> hey people wheres my mozilla folder.....im doing a search but it takes forever...can anyone help me. i just need to know where its at
[21:40] <neurobuntu> delmar: what is your cpu?
[21:40] <neurobuntu> connor: thanks ;-)
[21:40] <Boxxxer> hello
[21:40] <connor> wait
[21:40] <wols_> Noodels: put the driver in /etc/modules and possible blacklist the others
[21:40] <connor> cant find it
[21:41] <connor> wait
[21:41] <PeterP24> well I don't know; I compiled a new kernel (<IP_ADDRESS>) in gutsy and now it won't start
[21:41] <joseph> hey people wheres my mozilla folder.....im doing a search but it takes forever...can anyone help me. i just need to know where its at
[21:41] <connor> google pendrivelinux, the guide was on that site
[21:41] <Jalathan> joseph: ~/.mozilla/
[21:41] <wols_> PeterP24: there are errors
[21:41] <joseph> thanks
[21:41] <ivanhoe> hello evryone
[21:41] <Boxxxer> can one please explain to me the usefulness of the 3-state checkbox?
[21:41] <joseph> is it hidden?
[21:41] <nickolaus> ompaul I wasn't trying to rush anyone I just logged in and was trying to find someone with a few seconds to spare.
[21:41] <wols_> joseph: in your ~
[21:41] <Sexygurl> wols_, do you know where I can find a library called libsvg-cairo? I can't find it in the repository. :(
[21:41] <joseph> thanks
[21:41] <ivanhoe> i have problems with a pendrive usb
[21:41] <PeterP24> I don't know were to search
[21:41] <joseph> does that mean home?
[21:41] <ivanhoe> don read in ubuntu
[21:41] <joseph> ~
[21:41] <ompaul> !ask | nickolaus
[21:41] <Jalathan> joseph: yes, press Ctrl+h to unhide
[21:41] <wols_> Sexygurl: packages.ubuntu.org  check there
[21:41] <ivanhoe> says incorrect level
[21:41] <connor> ivanhoe: what happens?
[21:41] <joseph> thanks
[21:41] <Sinnerman> hi. how would i go about getting pidgin 2.4.2 working on gutsy? there only appear to be packages available for hardy, and because i already have a working gutsy install i'm a bit reluctant to upgrade to hardy for that one app.
[21:41] <ivanhoe> well
[21:41] <PeterP24> It doesn't say anything it just hang with a black screen
[21:41] <connor> i know what it is
[21:41] <_slow> Boxxxer: a) yes i can explain b) no i can't explain c) i don't know if i can explain. there's your three state checkbox.
[21:42] <ivanhoe> i put a pendrive in ubuntru
[21:42] <Noodels> wols_: The driver name being ieee80211?
[21:42] <ivanhoe> then
[21:42] <wols_> Noodels: no
[21:42] <delmar> wols_, um no actually. i did quite a lot of reading and for example.. my CPU.. http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL8Q7  ... is actually a true 32bit core with extra 64bit extensions and registers.  essentially it's a hack.
[21:42] <ivanhoe> i cant open
[21:42] <ompaul> Sexygurl, what are you trying to compile?
[21:42] <ivanhoe> because the label are changing
[21:42] <ivanhoe> i think
[21:42] <wols_> delmar: bullshit
[21:42] <delmar> neurobuntu, http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL8Q7
[21:42] <Sexygurl> ompaul, a little Cairo demo program.
[21:42] <Noodels> wols_: Um, what then?
[21:42] <_slow> Boxxxer also, let's say you have a software installation tree. The three state checkbox can be used to indicate that some of the components in the subcategory are to be installed but not all of them.
[21:43] <nickolaus> I need to log into a server I have online so I can transfer files to and from my computer I have the login and pass as well as the url could someone please walk me through it real quick.
[21:43] <wols_> Noodels: look in the same aread os the ieee driver for the bcm one
[21:43] <wols_> !b43
[21:43] <Sexygurl> ompaul, it's called cairo-in-motion.
[21:43] <andy56_uk> Boxxxer:  A typical example is where you have a tree structure containing a three-state check box at the root, with two-state children.  The three-state can show a) all sub options selected; b) no sub options selected; c) some sub options selected.
[21:43] <wols_> Noodels: look for b43
[21:43] <zetheroo> how many thousands of drivers does the Linux kernel have built-in?
[21:43] <joaopinto> nickolaus, what file transfer service is installed on the server ? ftp ?
[21:43] <_slow> andy56_uk yeah that's what i just said pretty much
[21:44] <softsantear> is anyone familiar with ytalk and the talk daemon?
[21:44] <_slow> andy56_uk you put it more eloquently though
[21:44] <andy56_uk> _slow: posts crossed - no offence intended
[21:44] <zetheroo> anyone know?
[21:44] <joaopinto> zetheroo, no
[21:44] <balls> !divx
[21:44] <Noodels> wols_: Look where? All I see is fuse, lp, sbp2 and bcm43xx.
[21:44] <nickolaus> joaopinto I'm not sure I do recall connecting to it through "Places > Connect to server"
[21:44] <wols_> Noodels: locate b43
[21:44] <Noodels> Oh god I should be better at adding drivers..
[21:44] <Boxxxer> andy56_uk, thank you
[21:44] <Sexygurl> wols_, it's not there.
[21:45] <connor> whats the default record button for istanbul?
[21:45] <ompaul> Sexygurl, I can't find a libsvg-cairo  so I suggest you check out what is around using apt-cache search libsvg and cairo and see if it works for you
[21:45] <joaopinto> nickolaus, well, that could be FTP, SFTP or samba
[21:45] <wols_> Sexygurl: then ubuntu doesn't have it. check CAIRO sites
[21:45] <Sexygurl> wols_, alright.
[21:45] <nickolaus> joaopinto I'm sure it FTP
[21:45] <joaopinto> Sexygurl, maybe you are looking for librsvg2-dev
[21:45] <neurobuntu> connor: is the guide for any distro of linux or just ubuntu?
[21:45] <joaopinto> nickolaus, so you just need to ftp to the server, and provide the user and pass...
[21:45] <Sexygurl> joaopinto, I already have that, I'm sure.
[21:45] <delmar> wols_, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
[21:46] <neurobuntu> I'm developing a suite of apps that I would like to bundle into a unique distrobution of linux
[21:46] <AL-G77> hello all :-)
[21:46] <connor> neurobuntu: if i remember correctly it was for ubuntu
[21:46] <connor> hi
[21:46] <Kremlin[NA]> Is it possible to change your processor in your computer out without reinstalling ubuntu?
[21:46] <connor> probably yes
[21:46] <neurobuntu> Kremlin: yes
[21:46] <connor> a processor is hardware
[21:46] <wols_> delmar: I know what x86-64 is thank you very much
[21:46] <joaopinto> Kremlin[NA], yes
[21:46] <Noodels> wols_: That brings up a lot.. And I'm not sure what I'm looking for.
[21:46] <Kremlin[NA]> NICE
[21:46] <wols_> Noodels: locate b43|grep modules
[21:46] <AL-G77> quick question from a noob :-) if i copy a file from ubuntu to a ntfs partition just using copy and paste will that work
[21:46] <cpk1> nickolaus: I'm sure you could use scp
[21:46] <Kremlin[NA]> Well, I remember windows wasnt happy sometimes if you did this, but this is great
[21:47] <_slow> I'll take Kremlin[NA]'s question further: what about changing out your x86 whith an AMD64?
[21:47] <joaopinto> AL-G77, if you have the required permissions, yes
[21:47] <wols_> AL-G77: yes if the ntfs partition is writable
[21:47] <connor> question about firefox 2
[21:47] <connor> how can i get a button on the side of my mouse to go back and forward for pages?
[21:47] <AL-G77> cool :-) i was worried xp still wouldn';t read it :-)
[21:47] <connor> on firefox 2?
[21:47] <neurobuntu> Kremlin[NA]: how ever if you are doing a major upgrade, from one MOBO to another it would probably be best to do a clean install. Also if you upgrade from a 32bit cpu to a 64bit cpu ubuntu will still only  be operating as a 32bit os
[21:47] <AL-G77> thanks guys
[21:47] <wols_> _slow: and AMD64 IS a x86
[21:47] <joaopinto> _slow, yes, also
[21:47] <delmar> wols_, dont get your knickers in a twist.. I AM interested in what you have to say if you have a different view... also I read stuff on here.. http://www.flexbeta.net/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t5534.html
[21:48] <Noodels> wols_: Three groups, one for each 16-generic to 18-generic.
[21:48] <connor> #firefox
[21:48] <cpk1> neurobuntu: why would you need to do a clean install if changing mobo's? nothing will have changed on the kernel after changing them
[21:48] <_slow> you can twist my knickers all you want
[21:48] <delmar> wols_, the picture I got when reading around the place is that EM64T is essentially a 64bit register extension to accommodate more ram.
[21:48] <wols_> neurobuntu: mobo change doesn't need a reinstall under linux. this is not windows
[21:48] <yme> Hi, I want to discover which program is running on port 25. I've got nmap. Do you know how can I do it?
[21:49] <_slow> SMTP
[21:49] <wols_> delmar: your picture is a) wrong and b) offtopic in here
[21:49] <Sexygurl> ompaul, I didn't find it.
[21:49] <delmar> wols_, and also provides other 64bit extensions too. but thats what it is.. 'extension'.
[21:49] <Starnestommy> yme: it's probably an smtp server
[21:49] <Kremlin[NA]> neurobuntu: Im not actually sure which CPU it is I have in the box now. system monitor says : Intel Celeron D CPU 3.2ghz. I have a Core 2 Duo E6400 2.13ghz lying around.. Would that make the pc a whole lot faster?
[21:49] <wols_> yme: nmap is the wrong thing to use
[21:49] <_slow> yme: nmap -p 25 (the ip)
[21:49] <ompaul> Sexygurl, as I said I did not find it but you might find something there
[21:49] <_slow> yme: nmap -sV -p 25 (the ip) rather
[21:49] <delmar> wols_, ok. cheers. I was interested in your comments on that post but anyway.
[21:49] <Noodels> wols_: Do these mean I just want to add b43 to my /etc/modules?
[21:49] <ompaul> yme, lsof | grep 25
[21:49] <alexbOrsova> my network connection seems to randomly stop working. i can make it work again by either rebooting or typing "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" and im on ubuntu 8.04. can anyone help?
[21:49] <PeterP24> the messages which apear during the boot > in which log are printed?
[21:50] <_slow> you can do it with lsof too
[21:50] <wols_> Noodels: only if your running kernel has the module
[21:50] <Sexygurl> ompaul, it wasn't in the cache. I think I'll check the cairo website.
[21:50] <HELLFIRE> dobranoc
[21:50] <ompaul> Sexygurl, that would be a good idea
[21:50] <wols_> ompaul: too many false positives :P
[21:50] <Noodels> wols_: It has b43.ko and b43legacy.ko, are those what I'm looking for?
[21:50] <wols_> Noodels: b43
[21:51] <ompaul> wols_, well I am not going to give a lecture in the value of escaping a single space ;-)
[21:51] <melter> is it possible to install ubuntu from a scsi cd drive?
[21:51] <yme> _slow, the result is:  Sendmail 8.14.2/8.14.2/Debian-2build1
[21:51] <yme> _slow, how do I remove Sendmail?
[21:51] <wols_> melter: yes
[21:51] <Shak-> what is the difference between nvidia-glx-new and nvidia-glx-new-envy?
[21:51] <Sexygurl> ompaul, actually Google found it for me... I should have done that first, but how do I install it? :o
[21:51] <_slow> alexanderwz i had the same problem until i switched network cards. it apparently kept intermittently locking up when it encountered a corrupt ARP request
[21:51] <Nyad> How do I check what the version of an installed package is? I just downloaded python-pyrex but I have no way of finding out what version it is
[21:51] <ompaul> !compile | Sexygurl
[21:51] <Noodels> wols_: So b43 replaces bcm43xx in /etc/modules?
[21:51] <wols_> Nyad: dpkg -l
[21:51] <joaopinto> yme, sudo apt-get remove sendmail (assuming it was installed from apt)
[21:51] <neurobuntu> Kremiln[NA] your new processor might not (probably) isn't physically compatible with your motherboard
[21:51] <prakriti> if I boot off a cd and set my ubuntu installation up on lvm partitions, will it be able to boot?
[21:51] <wols_> Noodels: I will not prechew Noodels
[21:51] <prakriti> does ubuntu have lvm support by default?
[21:51] <Noodels> wols_: Just checking.
[21:52] <wols_> prakriti: yes
[21:52] <Sexygurl> ompaul, why do I have to compile it? X( can't I just drop it in some directory?
[21:52] <alexbOrsova> _slow: are you talking to me? are you sure there is no way to fix the problem without switching network cards? I don't have this problem in windows xp, btw.
[21:52] <yme> joaopinto, it says that sendmail was not installed
[21:52] <neurobuntu> Kremlin[NA] cpus unlike video cards or HDD have pretty specific sockets they fit into, this is to help make sure that CPUs are compatible with MOBOs
[21:52] <melter> wols_, after i choose an option from the startup menu, it locks up
[21:52] <Sinnerman> hi. how would i go about getting pidgin 2.4.2 working on gutsy? there only appear to be packages available for hardy, and because i already have a working gutsy install i'm a bit reluctant to upgrade to hardy for that one app.
[21:52] <wols_> yme: dpkg -l |grep exim
[21:52] <joaopinto> yme, erm, so it was not installed using an apt package
[21:52] <ompaul> Sexygurl, it looks like a lib and being part of something else read the read me on it
[21:52] <_slow> joaopinto he could also have postfix installed you know
[21:52] <dmsuperman_> neurobuntu, celeron D's almost always use socket 775, so do core 2 duos
[21:52] <alexbOrsova> _slow: and i don't have a spare network card...
[21:52] <unavailable> asulutzy  just hopefully finished helping ironeye with his setup problem, turns out his a8v may have a bios setting blocking the detection of his sata in windows setup...
[21:52] <joaopinto> _slow, I am not sure postfix uses a sendmail header
[21:52] <delmar> _slow, so that post referred to someone trying to install 32bit version when they wanted 64bit, which should have worked anyway but anyway... I have the 64bit edition most certainly.
[21:52] <dmsuperman_> neurobuntu, it's the FSB that may make a difference, but it's a low end core 2 duo so there's a good chance it'll be fine
[21:53] <neurobuntu> dmsuperman_: do they have the same stepping?
[21:53] <prakriti> does the ubuntu install cd have lvm support?  or do I need to use the alternate install cd?
[21:53] <unavailable> other than that gave him his drivers and all that
[21:53] <ompaul> Sexygurl,  consider this place as a signpost towards a solution we may not know exactly what it is you need but we most likely know which road you need to walk
[21:53] <prakriti> I dont' need to install, just to copy the data to an lvm drive and setup the bootloader
[21:53] <Sexygurl> ompaul, haha, alright. :D
[21:53] <neurobuntu> dmsuperman_: but generally swapping cpus around is must less likely to work then other hardware
[21:53] <dmsuperman_> neurobuntu, not sure what you mean by that
[21:53] <_slow> delmar i'm out ask wols_
[21:53] <chaqu1> my friend recently baught a asus EEE, and now hes looking for me to help him set up his wifi, can anyone point me in the direction of that distro's help files?
[21:53] <yme> _wols, I did it, nothing happened
[21:53] <dmsuperman_> neurobuntu, agreed there, I'm just saying that a low end core 2 duo and a celeron D are very likely to work in the same mobo's
[21:54] <delmar> _slow, and wols_  thank you for your thoughts. I will keep googling.
[21:54] <wols_> yme: sudo netstat -anp | grep 25. paste the output in a pastebin
[21:54] <ompaul> chaqu1, in the bottom of a box is a rather large manual and it is very very detailed :)
[21:54] <Peterpearse> Hello all, has anybody had the screen resolution problem with hardy and nvidia cards?
[21:54] <Noodels> wols_: Right, I've blacklisted ndiswrapper and bcm43xx, if this works I shall return to kiss your feet.
[21:54] <wols_> !wlan | chaqu1
[21:54] <chaqu1> they dont have an online resource?
[21:54] <mfolnovich1> hello, can somebody tell me how can I tell VT (Virtual terminal) to use only one keyboard (I have two keyboards...)?
[21:55] <_slow> Peterpearse yes it's half the questions in here
[21:55] <neurobuntu> dmsuperman_: the stepping of the mobo and the cpus. Even if a cpu fits  a socket it doesn't mean that its compatible. I purchased a couple X2 to replace some athlon in few machines, in 2 of them it worked, but in the other machines it did't as their mobo's didn't suppor the x2 stepping
[21:55] <chaqu1> is the EEE ubuntu based?
[21:55] <yme> wols_, where it the pastebin?
[21:55] <sniper_sniper>  Hi ALL, I'm trying to change the password of a list of users defined in a text file as you can see in the link http://pastebin.com/m7973aadd
[21:55] <Peterpearse> I may have found a solution....
[21:55] <_slow> Peterpearse are you AMD64?
[21:55] <wols_> !paste
[21:55] <neurobuntu> chaq1: no
[21:55] <alexbOrsova> my network connection randomly stops working. i can bring it back by typing "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart" and im on ubuntu 8.04. switching network cards is not an option. does anyone know if there is anything else i can do?
[21:55] <ompaul> chaqu1, no it is xandross
[21:55] <neurobuntu> chaq1: but you can get xeeebuntu
[21:55] <Peterpearse> yes I am, though running on 32 bit
[21:55] <_slow> Peterpearse did you manually install your nvidia card, ie. not through Ubuntu
[21:55] <chaqu1> of course you can neurobuntu, and thats what i woudl have done, but this friend lives in NY
[21:56] <chaqu1> and im in FL
[21:56] <chaqu1> :-(
[21:56] <bakarat> possibly not the right channel but i can't for the life of me figure out how to add stuff to the "table of contents" in abiword
[21:56] <cpk1> alexbOrsova: what kind of card is it? what does dmesg say when the interface goes down?
[21:56] <yme> wols_, http://paste.ubuntu.com/19136/
[21:56] <neurobuntu> chaqu1: so what are you looking to do?
[21:56] <mfolnovich1> anyone knows answer to my question ?
[21:56] <The_ManU_212> hi
[21:56] <d2sp> Hello
[21:56] <dmsuperman_> neurobuntu, is that an AMD thing? As far as I know, as long as the sockets fit it'll work with intel. Worst case scenario, the FSB is too high in one or the other, but even then I'm pretty sure one will lower to match the other
[21:56] <The_ManU_212> isnt terhe an option in ubuntu to encode iso files to utf8?
[21:56] <wols_> yme: dpkg -l |grep sendmail
[21:56] <Peterpearse> No, I used envidia - Envyng with 96.43.05 drivers. I've had no problems at all since then
[21:57] <d2sp> I have a problem with Hardy/8.04, the automount     USB dont work?
[21:57] <dmsuperman_> neurobuntu, I know that my pentium 4 was too high of an FSB for my mobo, so the proc just operated at the lower FSB and worked fine
[21:57] <alexbOrsova> cpk1: how can i tell the chipset again? and yes, dmesg has a bunch of "eth0: Transmit error" messages
[21:57] <yme> wols_ ok that printed out a line. rc  sendmail-bin                          8.14.2-2build1                      powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans. Is that all?
[21:57] <_slow> Peterpearse if using gnome or kde do a killall gdm or killall kdm respectively after downloading the latest nvidia driver, sudo (the installer) /u to uninstall the old driver and sudo (the installer) to install the new one.
[21:57] <delmar> _slow, http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765195  offers me some more ideas!.
[21:57] <_slow> Peterpearse keep it in the channel
[21:58] <Peterpearse> Well I don't need to. It all works as is
[21:58] <laughtear> i need help
[21:58] <wols_> yme: not installed currently then....
[21:58] <_slow> Peterpearse so teh problem is resolution?
[21:58] <wols_> yme: locate bin/sendmail
[21:58] <dmsuperman_> neurobuntu, in any case, it never hurts to try, or at least research, so whoever you were helping should probably look them up :P
[21:58] <cpk1> alexbOrsova: lshw will work to find the nic
[21:58] <neurobuntu> dmsuperman: that sounds right... http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/29 <--- explains a bit on stepping
[21:58] <Peterpearse> I'm offering a resolution. I think I said that!
[21:58] <joaopinto> yme, dpkg -S $(which sendmail)
[21:59] <unavailable> hey guys im back
[21:59] <unavailable> any way i could get a yahoo voice solution for 64 bit ubuntu?  or instructions on correctly compiling Gyachi and having it work in 64 bit?
[21:59] <_slow> Peterpearse are you sure it's correctly identifying the card as nvidia? check the restricted drivers tab in settings and tell me if you see the nVidia card listed
[21:59] <yme> wols_ nothing appears
[21:59] <ASULutzy> unavailable: Google installing XP to SATA and you'll see what I'm talking about, I wasn't just blowing hot air :P
[21:59] <neurobuntu> dmsuperman_: i totally agree
[21:59] <alexbOrsova> cpk1: SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet ( Silicon Integrated Systems )
[22:00] <unavailable> ASULutzy i know just went through the driver download and possible bios setting change with ironeye
[22:00] <laughtear> neither update manager, nor add/remove does not work, when i start'em to work ther stop responding...:(
[22:00] <yme> joaopinto, that didn't work
[22:00] <joaopinto> yme, not work like... what was the output ?
[22:00] <sadaiyappan> Hi
[22:00] <wols_> yme: ps aux |grep sendmail
[22:00] <sadaiyappan> my laptop keeps booting into low graphics mode
[22:00] <unavailable> I was just saying that with my setup i didnt have to install any drivers
[22:00] <sadaiyappan> can someone help me boot it into normal mode?
[22:00] <Peterpearse> yes, in the Nvidia x server settings it show as an nvidia 7300gt, as it should
[22:00] <d2sp> I have a problem with Hardy/8.04, the automount     USB dont work?
[22:00] <laughtear> neither update manager, nor add/remove does not work, when i start'em to work ther stop responding...:(
[22:00] <_slow> laughtear open a shell and type sudo -i and pastebin the result
[22:01] <cpk1> alexbOrsova: heh, thats what I have =P
[22:01] <alexbOrsova> cpk1: i guess im in luck, then. :)
[22:01] <yme> wols_ root      6709  0.0  0.0   8224  1812 ?        Ss   Jun09   0:02 sendmail: MTA: accepting connections          mtedone  14071  0.0  0.0   3008   776 pts/0    S+   22:00   0:00 grep sendmail
[22:01] <laughtear> _slow: okey, i'll try
[22:01] <alexbOrsova> cpk1: yours works, right????
[22:01] <_slow> i bet the hostname isn't matching your localhost
[22:02] <yme> _slow, wat that for me?
[22:02] <_slow> yme: no.
[22:02] <laughtear> !pastebin
[22:03] <refdoc> Hi , I have a problem with my wife's laptop HP nc6220 on 8.04 - I have sound from totem but no sound in flash in firefox. When I try to play sound I only get a message that there is no device
[22:03] <vikram> Whats "rpm -qf /some/file" for apt-get?
[22:03] <Jalathan> vikram: could you elaborate?
[22:03] <joaopinto> vikram, dpkg -S file (assuming the file is already installed)
[22:04] <vikram> yes thats it joaopinto
[22:04] <vikram> Jalathan, what joaopinto said
[22:04] <laughtear> _slow: http://paste.ubuntu.com/19143/
[22:04] <wols_> yme: sudo find / -name sendmail*
[22:04] <Jalathan> vikram: kk, np, am not that familiar with rpm
[22:05] <_slow> laughtear that's what i suspected
[22:05] <_slow> laughtear one second
[22:05] <laughtear> _slow, ok, waiting...
[22:05] <neurobuntu> Has anyone here ever made their own custom live cd
[22:05] <joaopinto> neurobuntu, check http://uck.sourceforge.net/
[22:05] <_slow> laughtear http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=723361
[22:06] <yme> wols_ running... (thanks)
[22:06] <yme> wols_ I'll post the results in pastebin
[22:06] <neurobuntu> joaopinto: thanks! have you used it?
[22:06] <cpk1> alexbOrsova: it works, but I also have never had to do anything to get it to work
[22:06] <sadaiyappan> this is what I did: http://pastebin.com/d656ca908
[22:06] <sadaiyappan> it didn't work -- well when i first restarted the gdm it was working okay, but after i restarted my PC it booted into low graphics mode and is not working okay anymore
[22:06] <joaopinto> neurobuntu, no
[22:06] <cpk1> alexbOrsova: and I don't use it anymore either since I am on a gigabit network
[22:06] <joaopinto> no time for such hard core customizations :P
[22:07] <SteM> when i copy a file, it have the system date/hour and not the original date/hour .. is it the default behaviour ?
[22:07] <yme> wols_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/19144/
[22:07] <joaopinto> SteM, yes, otherwise you need to use -p or -a
[22:07] <cpk1> alexbOrsova: some quick googling seems to suggest that it might be from a different host incorrectly set to full duplex on the same network
[22:07] <neurobuntu> joaopinto: I'm not looking to do anything too hardcore, add a couple of packages to the default install, change the theme, etc...
[22:07] <lmosher> I can't get the evdev input driver to work with my mouse as described to enable the scroll wheel tilt buttons. The x server starts, but the mouse simply doesn't work (touchpad still works). Any ideas?
[22:07] <alexbOrsova> cpk1: ok, so can you think of what might be wrong with mine?
[22:08] <wols_> yme: kill the sendmail process, then purge the sendmail.bin package
[22:08] <NetEcho> Uhm how hard is it to fix the MBR when Windows overwrites grub ?
[22:08] <wols_> yme: and install exim
[22:08] <sirjoebob> NetEcho... it isnt too bad
[22:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !grub
[22:08] <SteM> joaopinto: is there any environment variable to force the -p or -a option?
[22:08] <sirjoebob> NetEcho... google installing Grub from livecd
[22:08] <NetEcho> I installed windows completely forgetting it would kill the grub install
[22:08] <joaopinto> SteM, no, most people use an alias for that
[22:09] <NetEcho> sirjoebob I can elect to just install grub from the ubuntu cd?
[22:09] <_slow> laughtear: if you can't save the /etc/hosts file directly because you can't sudo, try doing #23 reply in that thread
[22:09] <yme> wols_ where is the sendmail.bin package? How do I purge it?
[22:09] <helo> if there is a :: instead of :passwordhash: in /etc/shadow, will the user be able to log in without a password?
[22:09] <wols_> yme: dpkg -l |grep sendmail
[22:09] <wols_> yme: man apt-get
[22:09] <sirjoebob> NetEcho... Yea. follow the link from ubottu, i think that takes you to the tut... it takes all of like 6 commands, i have done it about 10 times  myself
[22:09] <_slow> laughtear your sudo was broken and you didn't know it
[22:09] <SteM> joaopinto: this is an Ubuntu default or a general 'cp' default?
[22:09] <enyc> hrrm i wonder how these daily ubuntu cds are built .... like the hardy 8.04.1 lts cd still has the 2.6.24-17 kernel...  i wonder how preseed/udeb/whatever-it-is gets the kernel for the cd
[22:09] <cpk1> alexbOrsova: you the only computer on the network? what are you connected to?
[22:09] <joaopinto> SteM, that is a linux general cp default
[22:10] <NetEcho> wols_ kinda figured it wouldn't be too bad off just wasn't sure if ubuntu had its own way or not
[22:10] <SteM> joaopinto: tnx !
[22:10] <yme> wols_ the dpkg gave me the following line: rc  sendmail-bin                          8.14.2-2build1                      powerful, efficient, and scalable Mail Trans
[22:10] <Kremlin[NA]> neurobuntu: I actually think that Celeron D is a socket 775 as the other Conroe processor is.. would it make a huge difference if I switched em if it would fit?
[22:10] <unavailable> ASULutzy ok get this ironeye's comp tells him his bios aint installed, but it boots to ubuntu
[22:10] <wols_> yme: I know
[22:11] <laughtear> _slow: i just did what it said there, ... no i didn't know that my sudo was broken? what that means?
[22:11] <Bodsda> Hi, I've just installed ubuntu with    /    on /dev/sdb1  and    /home    on /dev/sdc1    -- when i try to boot i get  grub error 15, and it stops. How can i resolve this? fdisk -l -- http://pastebin.com/f2cbff6a2
[22:11] <neurobuntu> Kremlin[NA] give it a try, the worst that could happen (don't quote me on this) is it won't turn on
[22:11] <yme> wols_ is that ok. Shall I just install exim now
[22:11] <ASULutzy> unavailable: If his BIOS weren't installed the system wouldn't POST?
[22:11] <_slow> laughtear do you get the same error when you type sudo -i now?
[22:11] <refdoc> Does anyone have an idea wrt my problem with flash sound in firefox in 8.04 on HP nc6220?
[22:11] <unavailable> i know
[22:11] <unavailable> but thats what it says
[22:11] <sadaiyappan> ?
[22:11] <Shak-> I'm currently using the 169.12 nvidia driver, anyone know if theres a newer (and stable) version I should be using?
[22:11] <laughtear> _slow: let me try in a few seconds
[22:11] <Kremlin[NA]> neurobuntu: Great, but the Conroe is definately way faster then the celeron D right?
[22:11] <neurobuntu> Kremlin[NA] just be really careful with the Thermal paste, that stuff is nasty and it is really easy for it to short pins
[22:11] <cpk1> Bodsda: you need to set /dev/sdb1 to be bootable
[22:11] <neurobuntu> probably
[22:12] <Bodsda> cpk1: how can i do that?
[22:12] <neurobuntu> computer speed is a complex beast
[22:12] <joaopinto> refdoc, I believe your sound issue is a generic problem with pulseaudio and flash, try installing the libflashsupport
[22:12] <_slow> laughtear: you should NOT be seeing "sudo: unable to resolve host (your hostname)"
[22:12] <refdoc> joaopinto I installed that - no joy.
[22:12] <ASULutzy> _slow, laughtear: sounds like you edited /etc/hosts ?
[22:12] <cpk1> Bodsda: you can do it using fdisk, not sure if it will harm your data or not
[22:12] <laughtear> _slow: no, and the problem is solved as i saw that the update manager is working now.... thank you very much... but, I just wondered a lot: what is that mean?
[22:12] <natjo2> wols_: homeskillet your suggestion worked thanks a million
[22:12] <Bodsda> cpk1: its ok, theres no data on it
[22:13] <refdoc> Only the missing device message is gone, but no sound
[22:13] <Bodsda> cpk1: how can i do it with fdisk?
[22:13] <yme> wols_ I tried  sudo apt-get install exim and it says that the package doesn't exists, but  exim4-base does. Is that the right one?
[22:13] <_slow> ASULutzy yeah his hostname wasn't matching with /etc/hosts which breaks sudo in hardy upgrades
[22:13] <Kremlin[NA]> neurobuntu: absolutely.. I have no idea what this Celeron D can and cannot, just thought the Conroe would be way faster.. Im way behind on all the new stuff out there
[22:13] <cpk1> Bodsda: do sudo fdisk /dev/sdb" i think
[22:13] <Guest4766> hey, does anybody else get really slow performance in hardy after their comp comes out of suspend?
[22:13] <Bodsda> cpk1: ok, cheers il try
[22:13] <ASULutzy> _slow: I had that happen once, forget how I fixed it exactly... Think I edited /etc/hostname
[22:13] <cpk1> Bodsda: and then pick the partition you want to boot from and press b to set it to be bootable I think
[22:13] <laughtear> ASULutzy: yes i did it now, but i still know why there happened a problem like that.... i did not do any unusual thing before that...???
[22:14] <Guest26614> hey guys how I change the themes ?
[22:14] <_slow> ASULutzy you can either edit /etc/hosts or /etc/hostname as long as the hostnames match
[22:14] <joaopinto> yme, sudo apt-get install exim4
[22:14] <cpk1> Bodsda: I am assuming that /boot is on /dev/sdb1 since thats where / and you didnt say /boot was somewhere else
[22:14] <Guest26614> can anybody helpme
[22:14] <_slow> laughtear it's Hardy's fault
[22:14] <connor> guest16614: system/preferances/appearance
[22:14] <Bodsda> cpk1: i dont have a seperate /boot partition
[22:14] <connor> guest26614:system/preferances/appearance
[22:14] <yme> joaopinto, what does exim do?
[22:14] <Guest26614> ok thanks
[22:14] <refdoc> yme it is a mail server
[22:14] <cpk1> Bodsda: ok then yes you want it to boot from the / partition
[22:14] <joaopinto> yme, it's a mail transfer agent
[22:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !themes
[22:15] <laughtear> _slow: even so, ubuntu is cool...:) and you're the hero of the nite for me dude...:D
[22:15] <sadaiyappan> ?
[22:15] <joaopinto> needed if you need to send mails
[22:15] <laughtear> _slow: thank you very much..:)
[22:15] <wols_> yme: try exim4
[22:15] <archimedes> anyone got Advanced Alsa Equalizer?
[22:15] <connor> i dont
[22:15] <_slow> no problem
[22:15] <ASULutzy> _slow, laughtear: I definitely had that problem and fixed it by editing either /etc/hosts or /etc/hostname... This was caused because I edited /etc/hosts in the first place to rename my machine, but I forgot to change something else... Not 100% sure, but it's definitely possible to get that annoying error message fixed
[22:15] <_slow> wow i actually fixed somebody
[22:15] <connor> but whats your problem?
[22:15] <Guest4766> I saw a bug report on launchpad about system sluggishness after suspend, but it was labeled for feisty.  It anybody else getting that as well now?
[22:15] <yme> wols_ but I didn't want an email server, I want to write my own. Can I uninstall it?
[22:15] <anirudh0> sadaiyappan, what?
[22:15] <wols_> yme: don't. you don't have the knowledge to write one, seriously
[22:16] <joaopinto> yme, I hope you are joking :)
[22:16] <Guest4766> I have no choice but to reboot because performance slows to a crawl after my monitor goes to sleep for a while
[22:16] <anirudh0> Guest4766, ram size?
[22:16] <Bodsda> cpk1: when i use    fdisk /dev/sdb1     i get this message -- http://pastebin.com/f6b41972
[22:16] <yme> wols_ it's for my MSc project
[22:16] <wols_> yme: and the world really doesn't need another MTA
[22:16] <laughtear> see you guys (we have to go back kate.) :D
[22:16] <sadaiyappan> i did this: http://pastebin.com/d656ca908
[22:16] <sadaiyappan> it's not working, it boots into low graphics mode
[22:16] <wols_> yme: why do you want a new one? what will it do differently or better than the existing ones?
[22:16] <anirudh0> wols_, help him or shut up
[22:16] <yme> It's not to substitute one of the other cool products out there
[22:16] <joaopinto> yme, before learning to develop an app for an OS you should be familiar with it's usage...
[22:17] <wols_> anirudh0: better don't tell others how to behave, especially not in a rude way
[22:17] <vikram> Is there a switch to get SELinux instead of apparmor?
[22:17] <anirudh0> wols_, rudeness begets rudeness
[22:17] <Jack_Sparrow> LEts try to keep it polite and ontopic people
[22:17] <anirudh0> sadaiyappan, have you looked at the nvidia wiki page on wiki.ubuntu?
[22:17] <joaopinto> wols_, a rude speaking to  a rude, how nicel :)
[22:17] <Guest4766> I think the slow performance after suspend might be an ATI fglrx problem, but I am not sure
[22:17] <neurobuntu> Kremlin[NA] give it a try! i bet you will see a performance increase on higher end cpu useage
[22:17] <yme> joaopinto, I can write an email server using sockets even if I don't know how Ubuntu inside out. I could use Windows (there port 25 works), but I wanted to write it using Ubuntu
[22:18] <neverwas> is there a way to boot to a ubuntu install cd iso without burning it to a cd?
[22:18] <sadaiyappan> no
[22:18] <gordonjcp> yme: What exactly are you trying to do?
[22:18] <cpk1> Bodsda: you want to do fdisk /dev/sdb  if it still says that then ignore it =P
[22:18] <Kremlin[NA]> neurobuntu: great thanks hope it works :
[22:18] <joaopinto> yme, ok, good luck :)
[22:18] <sadaiyappan> i'll look at it now
[22:18] <anirudh0> Jack_Sparrow, how do you respond to "the world does'nt need another MTA"
[22:18] <neurobuntu> Anybody know if xchat saves a log?
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> neverwas Only if you take the time to figure out how to put it on usb
[22:18] <refdoc> yme - to uninstall any package you do not like you can do apt-get remove [undesired-package]
[22:18] <wols_> neverwas: to do what?
[22:18] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot | anirudh0
[22:18] <neverwas> wols: to install ubuntu 32 instead of ubunut 64
[22:18] <cpk1> Bodsda: and its a to toggle bootable
[22:18] <yme> gordonjcp, I want to write a SMTP/POP server witih IMAP support based on Java 6 and JMX technology
[22:19] <wols_> neverwas: use wubi
[22:19] <Jack_Sparrow> anirudh0 He is doing it for a class, I can understand that
[22:19] <yme> refdoc, thanks
[22:19] <neverwas> wols: thanks
[22:19] <ASULutzy> neverwas: You can make a bootable liveusb, or you can use wubi if you have Windows installed
[22:19] <Bodsda> cpk1: fdisk /dev/sdb     gives me the bottom half of the message.. and a prompt thats waiting for a command
[22:19] <pub> does root-tail only work on gentoo?
[22:19] <wols_> neverwas: if you run windows that is. if you run linux, use debootstrap
[22:19] <Jack_Sparrow> neverwas Please think twice about using wubi
[22:19] <cpk1> Bodsda: so once you are in fdisk press a and then pick the partition you want to boot from
[22:19] <neverwas> debootstrap is the way to go i suppose
[22:19] <wols_> Jack_Sparrow: isn't it officially part of ubuntu since hardy?
[22:19] <ASULutzy> neverwas: Agree with Jack_Sparrow here, wubi isn't a good permanent solution. It's really only designed for testing/evaluating Ubuntu.
[22:19] <_slow> while i understand where wols_ is coming from, where time and time again you people ask questions that are either extremely vague or asking permission to ask a question, it should be noted that wols_ is also a dingus and dinguses aren't very polite.
[22:20] <Jack_Sparrow> wols_ It is officially supported.. But not something I would ever use or recommend
[22:20] <cpk1> Bodsda: then if those are all the changes you want to make press w to write the changes to the table and exit
[22:20] <gordonjcp> yme: ok, what do you know about mail servers?
[22:20] <Jack_Sparrow> wols_ to someone that I cared about anyhow
[22:20] <gordonjcp> yme: maybe take this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:20] <ASULutzy> Jack_Sparrow:  lol that's a nice qualifier
[22:21] <Bodsda> cpk1: cool, it now has a boot flag,.,.il reboot and let you know what happened,.,.cheers dude!
[22:21] <wols_> Jack_Sparrow: why? it doesn't install ubuntu on a free partition? only that stupid big file on ntfs?
[22:21] <gordonjcp> Jack_Sparrow: s/someone that I cared about/someone who has my mobile number/
[22:21] <Jack_Sparrow> wols_ I dont care to discuss it...  Read the faq carefully...
[22:22] <ASULutzy> wols_: It's not a good permanent solution for several reasons.  But basically rtm. Wubi isn't a good permanent solution
[22:22] <mad_max02> Anyone got gdesklets running on 64bit hardy ?? There is no working solution on ubuntuforums
[22:22] <mystery_> hello guys
[22:22] <DarkAudit> mad_max02: I gave upo trying and switched to screenlets
[22:22] <vraa> hello all! does 8.04 have an issue with php-db ?
[22:22] <locoton> hello men
[22:22] <mystery_> Question: Is there program that will help boost your ram using a sd card
[22:22] <Cripps> does anybody in here use openbox? I'm looking for hints on how to get the virtual desktops into a 3x3 square instead of a 1x9 line
[22:22] <wols_> ASULutzy: I was under the impression you could use it for installing ubuntu onto its own partition as usual. i know all the downsides of installing it into a big ntfs file
[22:23] <vraa> mystery_: you can just put in the sd card, mount it and use it as a swap, just make sure you set the swap file priority properly
[22:23] <wols_> mystery_: no
[22:23] <mad_max02> DarkAudit, are screenlets any good ??
[22:23] <mad_max02> DarkAudit, do you have any link ??
[22:23] <anirudh0> mystery_, i think the kernel would have to do that, not a program..which means, if its possible at all, you'll need to recompile the kernle
[22:24] <anirudh0> *kernel
[22:24] <wols_> mystery_: it would be something the kernel has to do and it's unlikely that will ever happen. except using the sdcard as swap which isn't so smart either (slow, limited amount of writes)
[22:24] <vraa> Failed opening './includes/templates/navstart.php' for inclusion (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear')   <-- that's the issue i'm getting on a plain amd64 ubuntu install with a lamp stack installed. i think there is an issue re: pear, php, and ubuntu
[22:24] <tzd> i've only seen bits of the discussion regarding wubi and to me it sounds like some kind of simple virtual machine? Personally I use VMware for all those testings, other OS:es etc and it works like a charm ;)
[22:24] <DarkAudit> mad_max02: screenlets.org is their home, with may more at gnome-look.org
[22:24] <mad_max02> DarkAudit, I'll check that right now. Thanks
[22:24] <vraa>   /usr/share/pear just doesn't exist. however /usr/share/php/pear does exist
[22:24] <Kremlin[NA]> Anyone here have a link for installing a AMP server?
[22:24] <DarkAudit> s/may/many
[22:24] <wols_> vraa: check navstart.php where this file is and what package brings it
[22:24] <mystery_> ok  i just installed linux and i want to make sure that i maintain its speed and keep it clean
[22:24] <mad_max02> DarkAudit, anything special in making them work in 64bit ?
[22:25] <neverwas> wols_:  for debootstrap i am trying to use a mounted iso as the mirror, is that what you meant?
[22:25] <wols_> mystery_: again, this is not windows
[22:25] <vraa> Kremlin[NA]: it's very easy, go to synaptic -> edit -> mark by task, and select LAMP
[22:25] <vraa> wols_: navstart.php is something i've written
[22:25] <anirudh0> vraa, you could create a symlink to /usr/share/php/pear
[22:25] <wols_> neverwas: debootstrap install a ubuntu from any other linux. that's all
[22:25] <vraa> anirudh0: can you explain further? i am interested :0
[22:25] <vraa> :)
[22:25] <mystery_> great
[22:25] <Kremlin[NA]> vraa: I dont want the mail part.. just a regular apache2, php 5 and mysql server
[22:26] <DarkAudit> mad_max02: Only thing I did was set them to both sticky and widget so they are on all desptops. Otherwise I just installed the packages.
[22:26] <ASULutzy> wols_: You can take a wubi install and move it to a dedicated ext3 partition, yes, but that sort of defeats the purpose of using wubi in the first place? I guess maybe it saves a cd if you're tricky
[22:26] <mystery_> but just want to optimize the systme
[22:26] <wols_> Kremlin[NA]: mail comes by default with linux. always
[22:26] <CarlFK> how do I fix this: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; The following packages have been kept back:  ffmpeg libavdevice52
[22:26] <vraa> Kremlin[NA]: right, it won't install the mail part i believe. if you know what packages you want, you can do them  yourself "apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql5"
[22:26] <joseph> anyone know a windows media player plugin for firefox on linux????/
[22:26] <rsk> joseph: apt-get mozilla-mplayer
[22:26] <joseph> i cant watch porn without it :(
[22:26] <DarkAudit> mad_max02: and the mail check screenlet is known not to work :p
[22:26] <wols_> ASULutzy: I'm coming from "goodbye-microsoft.com" which is something similar. but it installs debian to its own partition as usual
[22:26] <Starnestommy> Kremlin[NA]: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP also has some useful instructions
[22:26] <wols_> didn't know wubi can't do this
[22:26] <neverwas> wols_: alright, I have ubuntu 64 bit version, i have an iso of the 32 bit verison that I want install instead of 64 bit, i mounted the iso in /mnt/installCD  i created a directory /var/install and I want to debootstrap the iso to the /var/install
[22:26] <cpk1> CarlFK: try sudo aptitude full-upgrade ?
[22:26] <mad_max02> DarkAudit, heh thats the most wanted if you ask me :D
[22:27] <anirudh0> vraa, ln -sv <existing-file> <symlink>..look at man ln for more details
[22:27] <wols_> !Install
[22:27] <vraa> thank anirudh0
[22:27] <Kremlin[NA]> vraa: ok thanks I have no idea what packages I want.. just normal server, not anything above normal
[22:27] <ASULutzy> Can someone do me a favor real quick? I just installed fail2ban (I use public/private keys for my ssh so I'm not too concerned, just want to stop people from banging on my stuff) Can someone pm me and I'll give them my ip and they can just try to login to my ssh like 6 times
[22:27] <vraa> btw, anirudh0, do you think there is an issue regarding 64bit ubuntu + pear db ?
[22:27] <Kremlin[NA]> Starnestommy: Ok thanks
[22:27] <wols_> !tell Kremlin[NA] about lamp
[22:27] <vraa> Kremlin[NA]: the wiki link Starnestommy posted is very good
[22:27] <wols_> !lamp | Kremlin[NA]
[22:28] <anirudh0> vraa, not sure..never used 64 bit
[22:28] <DarkAudit> wrong! LAMPS is Light Airborne Multi-Purpose System :p :)
[22:28] <wols_> DarkAudit: LAMPS = LAMP
[22:29] <wols_> vraa: certainly not a path problem as in your case.
[22:29] <vraa> so it's not a symlink issue?
[22:29] <sudobash> is there an ubuntu security channel?
[22:30] <sudobash> i recently heard that some hackers spared ubuntu boxes to go after OS X and Windows....
[22:30] <Jack_Sparrow> sudobash They may just be protecting their egos...
[22:30] <vraa> wols_: i dont think it's a permissions issue, my entire directory is owned by www-data, and permissions are 755
[22:30] <neverwas> : Failure trying to run: chroot /var/install mount -t proc proc /proc
[22:31] <sudobash> maybe they just dont want to release a root exploit for the most used linux distro of all time...
[22:31] <wols_> vraa: I didn't say it was a permissions issue.
[22:31] <vraa> wols_: oh lol oops
[22:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot | sudobash
[22:31] <wols_> sudobash: we basically had one a few days ago. remember the ssl thing?
[22:31] <anirudh0> sudobash, err..what if there is;nt oone..atleast an obvious one
[22:31] <sudobash> theres a better one...
[22:31] <Bodsda> cpk1: no joy im afraid, error 15 still ;-(
[22:32] <sudobash> i asked for an ubuntu security channel
[22:32] <wols_> !security
[22:32] <sudobash> i run OpenBSD router....
[22:32] <Jack_Sparrow> sudobash And I pointed you to offtopic, since you are offtopic and it would be a better place to ask
[22:32] <wols_> sudobash: come back when you have ubuntu related questions. this is not a smalltalk channel
[22:33] <Bodsda> bazhang: you about dude?
[22:33] <wols_> Bodsda: where do you install grub to?
[22:33] <gordonjcp> here's a funny one, when I plug my Novation Xiosynth into the USB port, my PC plays the "logged into Ubuntu" sound
[22:33] <Bodsda> wols_: i never specified it so its default location is /dev/sdb1
[22:34] <wols_> Bodsda: unlikely. your BIOS boots from sda only
[22:34] <Bodsda> gordonjcp: cool
[22:34] <ASULutzy> lol, off topic I know, but it's funny. So I wanted someone to test that I had set up fail2ban properly on my home machine and none of my friends were available so I turned to a coworker sitting next to me (we're programmers) and asked him to hammer the box real quick... I wasn't thinking and I definitely just DoS'd myself... Can't reconnect for 10 minutes :(
[22:34] <gordonjcp> Bodsda: no, not cool
[22:34] <Bodsda> wols_: ok,then it will be sda1
[22:34] <ASULutzy> Tricky NAT :'(
[22:34] <Bodsda> gordonjcp: oh, sorry ;~)
[22:35] <gordonjcp> Bodsda: not when a couple of 140W RMS nearfield monitors are involved
[22:35] <vraa> anirudh0: what, uh, is the use to make links between files?
[22:35] <wols_> Bodsda: it will NOT be sda1. your bios doesn't know or care about partitions. and how do you KNOW you installed it to sda?
[22:35] <cpk1> Bodsda: pastebin your grub.conf
[22:35] <Bodsda> gordonjcp: i guess not ;~) interesting problem though
[22:35] <gordonjcp> Bodsda: yeah
[22:35] <wols_> cpk1: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:35] <alexbOrsova> cpk1: SORRY, I WAS WALKING MY DOG, I AM CONNECTED TO A ROUTER AND I AM NOT THE ONLY COMPUTER ON THE NETWORK
[22:35] <wols_> cpk1: grub.conf does not exist
[22:35] <gordonjcp> Bodsda: somewhat annoying, because I thought I had all the system sounds turned off
[22:36] <alexbOrsova> cpk1: and sorry for caps lock
[22:36] <cpk1> wols_: whatever, i use tab complete and dont bother memorizing the exact file name, by the time i got to /boot/grub I would have known
[22:37] <wols_> cpk1: you would, Bodsda wouldn't and he won't find it
[22:37] <Bodsda> wols_: i no what he meant,.,. im not new to this
[22:37] <wols_> cpk1: note: menu.lst doesn't matter when grub caN't even find stage1.5 or stage2. menu.lst comes AFTER those sre loaded
[22:38] <Bodsda> cpk1: theres a strange problem,.,. my disks keep changing order although i havent touched them
[22:38] <murlidhar> how to reset the settings of opera ?
[22:38] <wols_> murlidhar: is there a ~/.opera*
[22:38] <wols_> ?
[22:39] <aloky>  /server irc.rizon.net -j #animensk
[22:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda I have seen that before... I dont remember the soultion off the top of my head though
[22:39] <murlidhar> wols_, nope
[22:39] <sylpot> hello
[22:39] <joshua__> hey guys i'm having issues connecting to windows shares on my ubuntu hardy
[22:39] <wols_> murlidhar: ls -al ~ | more    one of the dotfile-directories is from opera
[22:39] <joshua__> i read in the bugzilla there is a bug known as of april just wondering if it had been sorted out
[22:40] <Bodsda> cpk1: wols_ -- http://pastebin.com/f548d570b
[22:40] <dan> is there an easy way to make numlock come on at boot? my bios is set to come on?
[22:40] <wols_> Bodsda: read what I told cpk1 above
[22:40] <anirudh1> dan, boot or gnome login?
[22:40] <kilrae> i just generated a brand new rsa key, and i ran `ssh-vulnkey` and for some of the keys it says 'not blacklisted' but for the new one it says 'unknown (no blacklist information)'
[22:40] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: using the powers of telepathy i delve into your brain to seek answers,.,. i quickly run away due to the mass of information -- ;~)
[22:40] <dan> anirudh1: gnome
[22:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda Are you mixing ide and sata?
[22:41] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: indeed,.,. i thought i was the one with the telepathy
[22:41] <murlidhar> wols_, yes there is now should i delete the folder?
[22:41] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda My mind is a dark and scary place..
[22:41] <Bodsda> wols_: noted ,.,.but how does that helpme
[22:42] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: isnt that a requirement for channel ops?
[22:42] <anirudh1> dan, http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=605
[22:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda Actually.. yes
[22:42] <Bodsda> ;~)
[22:42] <yme> I'm trying to open a socket on port 25 on my server. It returns an error: Permission denied. There's currently nothing running on port 25. Is there a reason for this?
[22:42] <dan> anirudh1: thank you
[22:42] <wols_> yme: are you root? or rather, does your pgroam run as root?
[22:42] <anirudh1> .nick anirudh0
[22:42] <Starnestommy> yme: I think only root can bind ports below 1024
[22:43] <wols_> yme: note this is not really a ubuntu support question
[22:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda I hate to say google anything, but it will probably be faster then me remembering how we fixed it
[22:43] <ASULutzy> yme: Yea those are reserved ports (below 1024)
[22:43] <Bodsda> cpk1: anything usefull in menu.lst
[22:43] <cpk1> Bodsda: do "sudo grub" and then "find boot/grub/stage1"
[22:43] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: google self ordering hdd's or grub error 15?
[22:43] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda Is your fstab set to use uudi, or did you change some to /dev/sda1   etc
[22:43] <Bodsda> cpk1: isnt this the solution for error 21,.,. il try anyway ;~)
[22:44] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: everything is default
[22:44] <donrmoore37> hello?
[22:44] <anirudh0> Bodsda, iirc error 15 is caused by wrong partition number
[22:44] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda self ordering reordering hdd
[22:44] <murlidhar> wols_, actually i am not able to use opera since it shuts down automatically within a few seconds?
[22:44] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: cheers,.,.*heads to his friend oogle*
[22:44] <geko> hi, im trying to install my microphone on an XPS M1330, but im getting an error while running the install code. Im writing "wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~rtg/linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.53_i386.deb
[22:44] <yme> wols, no. I'm launching the program from within an IDE launched through a shortcut. Is there a way of specifying that I want to run that shortcut as root?
[22:44] <murlidhar> wols_, what might be the problem?
[22:44] <geko> sudo dpkg -i linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.53_i386.deb"; the error is "dpkg: error while proccessing linux-backports-modules-2.6.22-14-generic_2.6.22-14.53_i386.deb (--install)". 2 weeks ago I came here for help for upgrading to 8.10, we edited a sourcefile for getting the updates, Im wandering if might be related or should I try somthing else
[22:44] <anirudh0> Bodsda, in menu.lst, check the kernel boot thing..does it point to the right partition?
[22:44] <Jack_Sparrow> anirudh0 he has a unique situation, I have only run across a few times when people mixed ide and sata
[22:44] <anirudh0> oh
[22:45] <anirudh0> ok
[22:45] <Kremlin[NA]> In ubuntu 7.10 I have a Sharing button in System -> Administration, but now in 8.04 I havent, how do I then control my samba shares?
[22:45] <ASULutzy> geko: Upgrading to 8.10? You have Ibex already?
[22:45] <wols_> murlidhar: I don't use opera
[22:45] <cpk1> Jack_Sparrow: I mix both but only boot off ide =)
[22:45] <Bodsda> anirudh0: not sure il check
[22:45] <ASULutzy> geko: I call shenanigans :P
[22:46] <yme> wols_ for instance, if I check the properties of the shortcut I can see the following: /home/mtedone/opensources/eclipse/eclipse
[22:46] <geko> AsuLutu: I dont think so
[22:46] <Bodsda> cpk1: ok, im in the grub prompt
[22:46] <yme> wols_ is there a way to say to the command shortcut that I want to run as root?
[22:46] <wols_> geko: 2.6.22 is not part of hardy anymore
[22:46] <murlidhar> i am not able to use opera since it shuts down automatically within a few seconds?
[22:46] <cpk1> Bodsda: then do find boot/grub/stage1
[22:46] <anirudh0> yme, add sudo
[22:46] <murlidhar> what might be causing the problem?
[22:46] <earthling> installed ubuntu 8.04 2 days back have 512Mb Ram.. the older distros were fine.. any suggestions
[22:46] <anirudh0> murlidhar, run from cmd line to find the problem
[22:46] <mahrellon> Odd question. What's the latest official Ubuntu kernel version from the repos?
[22:46] <joshua__> hey guys i'm wondering if the issue of not being able to access windows shares is fixed or going to be fixed soon?
[22:47] <anirudh0> mahrellon, from main or proposed?
[22:47] <geko> AsuLutu: so with shenanigans you say?
[22:47] <yme> anirudh0, in front or at the end of the command
[22:47] <tico> hello everybody
[22:47] <mahrellon> anirudhG, Main =)
[22:47] <anirudh0> joshua__, what issue would that be?
[22:47] <wols_> earthling: not until you actually describe your problem and ask somethig sensible
[22:47] <anirudh0> yme, front
[22:47] <Jack_Sparrow> cpk1 Some people have no problems mixing, other than a performance hit.. and we have the occasional juggling of hdd designators
[22:47] <fabio_> mmm
[22:47] <murlidhar> anirudh0, opera: X Shared memory extension is not available. ZPixmap not supported
[22:47] <murlidhar> Segmentation fault
[22:47] <Bodsda> cpk1: file not found -- im on live cd,,.would i need to say   find  /media/sdc1/boot/grub/stage1?
[22:47] <mahrellon> anirudh0, Main =)
[22:47] <murlidhar> anirudh0, this might be useful ?
[22:47] <ASULutzy> geko: I was just being facetious, you said upgrading to 8.10 which is Intrepid Ibex, which isn't out yet. I'm guessing you either meant 8.04 which is Hardy Heron, or 7.10 which is Gutsy Gibbon
[22:47] <anirudh0> murlidhar, you are missing some libraries
[22:47] <joshua__> i can't access windows shares report was made in april it looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-vfs/+bug/208181
[22:48] <tico> some one knows how to erase information  that we don't need. and get more space on HDD
[22:48] <anirudh0> murlidhar, hence the segfault
[22:48] <wols_> !grub | Bodsda
[22:48] <cpk1> oh, live cd
[22:48] <murlidhar> anirudh0, so i do wat?
[22:48] <anirudh0> murlidhar, do sudo ldd /usr/bin/opera
[22:48] <wols_> tico: apt-get clean
[22:48] <Jack_Sparrow> tico burn to a cd or usb  /var/cache/apt/archives
[22:48] <Bodsda> wols_: thankyou for flooding the channel,.,. i think weve discovered what grub is
[22:48] <anirudh0> murlidhar, post output to pastebin please
[22:48] <pub> does anyone run eterm
[22:48] <geko> AsuLutu: Im sorry about that, yes you're right, it is 8.04
[22:48] <earthling> wols_ : i figured the question was lame.. :) . what is the min sys requirment for this release 8.04.. has gnome got heavier than in 7.10?
[22:48] <anirudh0> pub, yes..why?
[22:48] <tim168> anyone know a fix for firefox in Hardy ? (it hangs)
[22:48] <wols_> Bodsda: I did not flood. I gave you urls to look what to do. have fun ignoring it
[22:49] <pub> would you mind helping me for a bit?
[22:49] <Kremlin[NA]> In ubuntu 7.10 I had a Sharing button in System -> Administration, but now in 8.04 I havent, how do I then control my samba shares?
[22:49] <Jack_Sparrow> tico auto-clean will delete things you dont need clean deletes everything and you may end up dl'ing again later if you dont archive
[22:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptoncd
[22:49] <RULR> how to get smaller icons on desktop
[22:49] <anirudh0> tim168, not reproduced everywhere..so should be something to do with your system
[22:49] <murlidhar> anirudh0, 	not a dynamic executable
[22:49] <wols_> Bodsda: and I KNOW that you won't fix your problem until you do a few things described at those URLS. but we all  know you know better so have fun fixing it yourself
[22:49] <Bodsda> wols_: i will thanks,.,. !grub > Bodsda    would have been less floody
[22:49] <murlidhar> anirudh0, this is the only line i get
[22:49] <anirudh0> murlidhar, the joys of closed source ;)
[22:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda are you regg'd
[22:49] <anirudh0> also look at jigdo
[22:50] <tim168> anirudh0: i can reproduce it on 3 computers, many people on forums mention the same
[22:50] <Bodsda> wols_: thanks for the sarcasm, oh, and also the assumption that ive never come accross this problem before and havent exactly checked those links
[22:50] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: with nickserv?
[22:50] <yme> anirudh0, that didn't work because root has got some other Java options in its configuration. Is there a way I can say that I have the same power as root?
[22:50] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[22:50] <geko> AsuLutzy: sorry, you're right, i meant 8.04, not 8.10
[22:50] <RULR> HOW TO REDUCE ICONS SIZE ON DESKTOP?
[22:50] <yme> anirudh0, I know there is this sudoers file...
[22:50] <anirudh0> yme, as Jack_Sparrow keeps telling me, i should have told you to use gksudo
[22:51] <anirudh0> :)
[22:51] <Jack_Sparrow> RULR Lose the caps please
[22:51] <tim168> is there a decent (and light) browser i can use instead of firefox ? thanks
[22:51] <yme> anirudho, thanks.
[22:51] <Jack_Sparrow> anirudh0 Smack you silly..:)
[22:51] <anirudh0> tim168, dillo is as light as it gets
[22:51] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: i am now
[22:51] <RULR> Jack_Sparrow: how to reduce icons size on desktop
[22:51] <anirudh0> tim168, its written completely in c..total size <700kb
[22:51] <wols_> tico: but dill only really works on html only sites. no javascript, css, flash or such
[22:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda So it would not have mattered > or | it still bounces...   Please keep it polite..
[22:51] <tim168> anirudh0: i can try that, thanks, does it do any graphics or only text ?
[22:51] <pub> anirudh0 do you also use fluxbox?
[22:52] <Jack_Sparrow> !pm | tico
[22:52] <yme> anirudh0, still same problem, also with gksudo doesn't work
[22:52] <anirudh0> tim168, :)...does a lot of graphics..not sure of java and flash
[22:52] <wols_> tim168: ^^ about dillo
[22:52] <anirudh0> pub, no..enlightenment
[22:52] <ASULutzy> Jack_Sparrow: Thanks for remindin me, I just registered with NickServ :P
[22:52] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: sorry,.,. il tone it down -- just frustrated by grub ;~)
[22:52] <Jack_Sparrow> understood
[22:52] <Kremlin[NA]> In ubuntu 7.10 I had a Sharing button in System -> Administration, but now in 8.04 I havent, how do I then control my samba shares?
[22:52] <pub> just something that could style ubuntu
[22:52] <pub> was just curious
[22:53] <anirudh0> pub, "style ubuntu"?
[22:53] <Jack_Sparrow> !themes
[22:53] <pub> yah, one sec
[22:53] <anirudh0> Jack_Sparrow, i'm not sure thats what he means
[22:53] <tim168> ok ill reboot into ubuntu and try dillo (had to boot in windoze because in ubuntu also pidgin doesnt work now :/ ) see you later
[22:53] <anirudh0> he/she
[22:53] <Jack_Sparrow> anirudh0 Agreed....
[22:53] <Bodsda> cpk1: grub prompt cant find it but i can through nautilus
[22:53] <wols_> tim168: use epiphany or galeon or so
[22:54] <tim168> wols_: you mean instead of pidgin ?
[22:54] <geko> AsuLutzy: so... if 2.6.22-14 is not part of hardy any more, what other command could I try to build?
[22:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda    in terminal        sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cp /etc/fstab ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && sudo fdisk -l >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && lsb_release -a >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && cat /home/$USER/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt | pastebinit
[22:54] <wols_> tim168: instead of firefox. dillo has no javascript or css or anything else support
[22:54] <Kremlin[NA]> how do I configure sharing in GNOME?
[22:54] <anirudh0> ephiphany and galeon pull in the same dependencies as ff(gecko)...so not sure it meets the lightweight criterion
[22:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda give us the pastebin link it gives you in return
[22:54] <wols_> !pm | tico
[22:55] <tim168> wols_: ok ill check epiphany then ...
[22:55] <The_ManU_212> why shows bkid uuid with "" but fstab need it without ""?
[22:55] <anirudh0> Kremlin[NA], right click>properties>share
[22:55] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: im on live cd,.,.is that the correct fstab your after?
[22:55] <anirudh0> Kremlin[NA], install samba first
[22:55] <noteventime> I'm getting "Operation not supported" errors when getting larger files from my local (to this LAN) FTP-server
[22:55] <Jack_Sparrow> no
[22:55] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: kk,.il change it
[22:55] <noteventime> I've tried using gftp, which works.
[22:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda but the fdisk will tell me what drives I want you to mount
[22:56] <noteventime> But I'd prefer to use the standard method, so I can use it to stream over the network.
[22:56] <wols_> noteventime: how large?
[22:56] <iDN> Heyall
[22:56] <Kremlin[NA]> anirudh0: samba is already install, Im looking for the menu I had in the System -> admiinistration in 7.10 where I could see all folders I had shared
[22:56] <noteventime> wols_: Anything over a mb or so
[22:56] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: http://pastebin.com/f116843ca
[22:56] <geko> AsuLutzy: my kernel version is 2.6.24-18, should I try changing those in the wget command?
[22:56] <anirudh0> Kremlin[NA], not sure of the menu thing..but you can share stuff using the right click method
[22:56] <iDN> I messed up the mount point of my Sansa Clip, and now I can't see it in /media at all. :( Can someone help?
[22:56] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: i have sda1, sdb1 and sdc1   mounted
[22:56]  * genii ponders wget kernel changes
[22:57] <KleRoi> hello I have a problem, i've just passed from gutsy to hardy heron but my gfx drivers aren't working much. I have an Ati Mobility Radeon x1600 and on the hardware drivers I see the ati drivers enabled, but when i do fglrxinfo it tells me that some Mesa drivers are on..
[22:57] <anirudh0> noteventime, something to do with the server rather than your computer?
[22:57] <yme> How do I see what's in root's classpath
[22:57] <RULR> i cant resize all desktop icons form once, is there any way how to resize them all
[22:57] <noteventime> anirudh0: Tried two different FTP daemons
[22:57] <Kremlin[NA]> anirudh0: yeah thanks.. But I can see that I folder I shared with 7.10 doesnt look shared now even thou it is and I can access it
[22:57] <yme> actually how do I edit it?
[22:57] <noteventime> anirudh0: And it works with Firefox and gftp
[22:57] <pub> oh wait anirudh0 , you use enlightenment?
[22:58] <anirudh0> pub, yes
[22:58] <wols_> yme: #java
[22:58] <pub> ah
[22:58] <pub> does it look nice
[22:58] <iDN> Can someone please help me?
[22:58] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda what os is on sda
[22:58] <anirudh0> pub, superb..beats compiz and mac, comes close to kde 4
[22:58] <RULR> i cant resize all desktop icons form once, is there any way how to resize them all
[22:58] <anirudh0> pub, imho
[22:58] <rdz> hi all. why is there no xfonts-artwiz package anymore in ubuntu hardy?
[22:58] <yme> wols_ I typed #java but nothing happened
[22:58] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: i also googled the self ordering hard drives,.,. a couple of hits but no fixes -- sda1 this time is /home
[22:58] <RULR> i cant resize all desktop icons form once, is there any way how to resize them all
[22:59] <Jack_Sparrow> RULR Please hold off on the repeats, we see your question
[22:59] <iDN> I messed up the mount point of my Sansa Clip, and now I can't see it in /media at all. :( Can someone help?
[22:59] <anirudh0> rdz, might be renamed or merged in another
[22:59] <kitche> Bodsda: it's a udev thing I believe
[22:59] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda gimme a minute to google up some magic..
[22:59] <noteventime> iDN: How did you mess it up?
[22:59] <yme> wols_ actually it happens something strange. If I type java -version it appears the correct version. However if I try to launch eclipse as root it tells me that the JVM is version 1.4.2!!
[22:59] <anirudh0> iDN, you'll need to mount manually..then edit mountpoint
[22:59] <Bodsda> kitche: what is?
[22:59] <pub> im trying to use a skin on eterm that isn't affected by fluxbox
[22:59] <Bodsda> Jack_Sparrow: cheers dude
[22:59] <rdz> anirudh0, i'll check that.. thanks
[22:59] <yme> wols_ however if I launch eclipse normally (as me) it works fine
[23:00] <iDN> noteventime: I think I tried to change the mount point, but it was confusing, because there were two tabs in which I could do that.
[23:00] <RULR> i cant resize all desktop icons form once, is there any way how to resize them all
[23:00] <noteventime> yme: Do you have the SUN JVM installed?
[23:00] <anirudh0> pub, you have to edit the eterm theme and config files..more details on the eterm faq on their homepage
[23:00] <yme> noteventime, yes
[23:00] <iDN> noteventime: "sudo mount /dev/sdb" then?
[23:00] <yme> version 1.6.0
[23:00] <kitche> Bodsda: your issue with hard drives being self ordered and not the same each time
[23:00] <RULR> i cant resize all desktop icons form once, is there any way how to resize them all?
[23:00] <anirudh0> pub, i dont use eterm btw..there;s something called sakura..thats a little better..gtk though
[23:00] <Bodsda> kitche: do you no if theres a fix?
[23:00] <noteventime> iDN: You can always do "sudo mount /dev/sdb /any/mount/point"
[23:01] <azzco> using unetbootin to create a "liveusb" what fs should the usb be formated to?
[23:01] <anirudh0> mount -t auto
[23:01] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220471                  start here..
[23:01] <anirudh0> not mount alone
[23:01] <noteventime> iDN: Also, check if it is in /etc/fstab, and remove it from there
[23:01] <kitche> Bodsda: yes I told you the fix you need to write a udev rule which I m no great with udev sicne I don't use it
[23:01] <nickcammarata> I have never used any linux distro, but I just got a computer to play with, it has ubuntu on it right now, but only the command line, I am at a full screen terminal(i dont know that many terminal commands), how would I install the full screen gui
[23:01] <pub> oh ok
[23:01] <Bodsda> kitche: sorry, i have no idea what udev is ,. but il do some googling, thanks
[23:01] <KleRoi> hello I have a problem, i've just passed from gutsy to hardy heron but my gfx drivers aren't working much. I have an Ati Mobility Radeon x1600 and on the hardware drivers I see the ati drivers enabled, but when i do fglrxinfo it tells me that some Mesa drivers are on..
[23:01] <yme> noteventime, if there was a way to specify that for root the JAVA_HOME should point to the Sun JDK version 6 I think that would solve the problem
[23:01] <pub> im going to grab some food, and finish working on this
[23:01] <connor> nickcammarata: you dont
[23:01] <pub> i just installed linux on my main today ;D
[23:01] <connor> congrats
[23:02] <connor> wubi or live cd?
[23:02] <iDN> noteventime: Before or after I change the apply the new mount point?
[23:02] <anirudh0> yme, export JAVA_HOME=<whereever>
[23:02] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodsda   http://www.backports.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=816577
[23:02] <RULR> i cant resize all desktop icons form once, is there any way how to resize them all?
[23:02] <RULR> i cant resize all desktop icons form once, is there any way how to resize them all?
[23:02] <RULR> i cant resize all desktop icons form once, is there any way how to resize them all?