[07:03] <ubotu> i forgot dpkg, tiglionabbit
[07:03] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: short and to the point, please
[07:03] <Discipulus> adwait, then why does fuse-utils 'recommend' fuse-module ???
[07:03] <Harold> peet: D-Link DWL-G630
[07:03] <MrJangles> ty
[07:03] <peet> Harold: well ndiswrapper is just emulating the windows driver
[07:03] <peet> Harold: er running the windows driver in linux
[07:03] <MrJangles> error: couldnt find package
[07:03] <Discipulus> adwait, one of the progs installed by fuse-utils wants a kernel module called fuse :-\
[07:03] <Discipulus> grrr
[07:03] <WMCoolmon> Mystery: not exactly sure, but there seem to be a couple threads about it on the Ubuntu forums
[07:03] <Discipulus> this is retarded
[07:03] <tiglionabbit> ubotu dpkg is Debian PacKaGe manager: dpkg --install, dpkg --remove, dpkg --info
[07:03] <ubotu> okay, tiglionabbit
[07:03] <James686> how do I add that to the terminal? the unsupported wireless card thing
[07:03] <Harold> peet: I'll have to figure out how to get ndiswrapper working, next.
[07:03] <tiglionabbit> ubotu dpkg
[07:03] <ubotu> it has been said that dpkg is Debian PacKaGe manager: dpkg --install, dpkg --remove, dpkg --info
[07:04] <peet> Harold: and then get cpufreqd working too :)
[07:04] <peet> Harold: you might have to build support for it in teh kernel
[07:04] <Mystery> WMCoolmon: i did a search, thread and no replies
[07:04] <nalioth> Harold: you should look at the supported wireless hardware b4 you purchase a wireless device for your old powerbook
[07:04] <Mystery> :|
[07:04] <Mystery> maybe my search is screwed, can you give me a link?
[07:04] <WMCoolmon> Mystery: "http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=+site:ubuntuforums.org+alsa+%22invalid+CARD+number%22"
[07:04] <tiglionabbit> why is there no wiki on dpkg?
[07:04] <Harold> nalioth: True; I researched it to see if it would at least work with Linux
[07:05] <Mystery> ah ok
[07:05] <Mystery> google...
[07:05] <WMCoolmon> hehe
[07:05] <woodwizzle> davey, peet. I'm searching synaptic for w32 and codecc but nothing like that is coming up. I have the universe and multiverse enables
[07:05] <WMCoolmon> so, anyone know how to satisfy "configure: error: Cannot find GL library"?
[07:05] <Harold> nalioth: I was also hoping it might work with Mac, but no drivers exist (that i know of)
[07:05] <tiglionabbit> woodwizzle: you need the backports repository.
[07:05] <tiglionabbit> !backports
[07:05] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, backports is http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[07:05] <Davey> woodwizzle: I think its in backports
[07:06] <tiglionabbit> woodwizzle: or a mirror of it, look through the mirrors at that site
[07:06] <MrJangles> seth_k - server down
[07:06] <peet> woodwizzle: try apt-cache search win
[07:06] <nalioth> Harold: there is a wireless thing in that old powerbook?
[07:06] <bddebian> WMCoolmon: "apt-cache search libgl" ??
[07:06] <nalioth> woodwizzle: make sure you comment out backports after you've gotten your things
[07:07] <adwait> bbye ppl
[07:07] <Harold> nalioth: No, it's a pccard I picked up at Fry's
[07:07] <seth_k> MrJangles, whoa! I just downloaded the file from it about 5 min ago
[07:07] <seth_k> MrJangles, uploading to my server now :)
[07:07] <nalioth> Harold: ah, well education pays
[07:07] <MrJangles> can you send that link again
[07:07] <MrJangles> i couldnt connect
[07:07] <bddebian> seth_k: GO TO BED! :-)
[07:07] <seth_k> yes yes
[07:07] <seth_k> so much work to do!
[07:07] <seth_k> so little time for sleep
[07:07] <MrJangles> thanks :D
[07:07] <MrJangles> how do i install debs?
[07:08] <tiglionabbit> MrJangles: using dpkg
[07:08] <nalioth> !dpkg
[07:08] <ubotu> methinks dpkg is Debian PacKaGe manager: dpkg --install, dpkg --remove, dpkg --info
[07:08] <seth_k> sudo dpkg -i blah.deb
[07:08] <Harold> nalioth: 6 years with Linux, huh?  What was your first distro?
[07:08] <warrior_> I think I'm gonna go install some games on cedega.  See everybody tomorrow
[07:08] <MrJangles> better yet, any good documentation for people like me ? lol
[07:08] <WMCoolmon> bbdebian: i get a crapload of stuff, i think i've tried most of the relevant ones though :-/
[07:08] <tiglionabbit> MrJangles: man dpkg
[07:08] <MrJangles> overall i mean
[07:08] <woodwizzle> thanks guys! =)
[07:08] <ilba7r> harold perhaps this link be of use for you https://wiki.ubuntu.com//SetupNdiswrapperHowto
[07:08] <tiglionabbit> MrJangles: sudo dpkg --install thepackage.deb
[07:08] <tiglionabbit> ubotu forget dpkg
[07:08] <nalioth> Harold: way back in the day, it was redhat
[07:08] <ubotu> i forgot dpkg, tiglionabbit
[07:08] <Harold> ilba7r: Absolutely - thanks
[07:09] <warrior_> later all
[07:09] <ilba7r> harold you are welcomed i had to install ndiswrapper from scratch for my wirless too
[07:09] <bddebian> OK, 1:10am is far to late for this old fart.  Gnight folks
[07:09] <tiglionabbit> ubotu dpkg is Debian Package Manager: sudo dpkg --install package.deb
[07:09] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: okay
[07:09] <unome> !debconf
[07:09] <ubotu> unome: No idea
[07:09] <tiglionabbit> !dpkg
[07:09] <ubotu> rumour has it, dpkg is Debian Package Manager: sudo dpkg --install package.deb
[07:09] <Harold> nalioth: That was going to be my first install, but I ended up trying Xandros first.
[07:09] <parkbench> ilba7r: ahh! im having the same problem but that thing is not helping :|
[07:09] <peet> ubotu: its not a rumor its true
[07:09] <seth_k> MrJangles: http://sethkinast.com/ubuntu/breezy/wifi-radar_1.9.4-0ubuntu2_all.deb
[07:09] <ubotu> peet: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:09] <MrJangles> ty :)
[07:10] <peet> ubotu: explain that dpkg is debian?
[07:10] <tiglionabbit> peet: wha?
[07:10] <Harold> ilba7r: Must have been a challenge.
[07:10] <ilba7r> parkbench have you checked the link to supported hardware it will tell you where to get the win drive
[07:10] <peet> ubotu: said it was a rumor that dpkg was debian hehe
[07:10] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, peet
[07:10] <nalioth> ubotu dpkg is Debian Package Manager: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[07:10] <ubotu> ...but dpkg is already something else...
[07:10] <ilba7r> harold yes because the page does not explain to how to set the wifi
[07:10] <tiglionabbit> peet: ubotu is a bot
[07:11] <James686> ok help, I typed in that line of text for the Nvidia driver, I typed in my password, it said Please insert the CD I did and pressed enter and it CONSTANTLY keeps on saying to Make Label and it says a name to label it, I even typed that in, nothin worked
[07:11] <peet> tiglionabbit: really?
[07:11] <James686> whats wrong?
[07:11] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: I think the long options are more explanitory to newbies
[07:11] <peet> tiglionabbit: thats funny :)
[07:11] <tiglionabbit> peet: yes.  We train it
[07:11] <Harold> ilba7r: I hate when that happens
[07:11] <peet> tiglionabbit: :b
[07:11] <tiglionabbit> peet: when you say !something it responds, like this:
[07:11] <tiglionabbit> !nvidia
[07:11] <ubotu> [nvidia]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:11] <peet> tiglionabbit: ahh
[07:11] <peet> !time
[07:11] <ubotu> peet: No idea
[07:11] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: the average answer in chan is the short one, we will see
[07:11] <ilba7r> harold piece of cacke now just follow the instructions then i will help you complete the setup
[07:11] <peet> !dpkg
[07:11] <ubotu> [dpkg]  Debian Package Manager: sudo dpkg --install package.deb
[07:12] <nalioth> !info xchat hoary
[07:12] <ubotu> xchat: (IRC client for X similar to AmIRC), section net, is optional. Version: 2.4.1-0.1ubuntu5 (hoary), Packaged size: 248 kB, Installed size: 672 kB
[07:12] <parkbench> ilba7r: yeah but its down
[07:12] <parkbench> so i never could compare
[07:12] <James686> that doesnt help...
[07:12] <tiglionabbit> peet: to train it, say "ubotu <whatever> is <the definition>"
[07:12] <ilba7r> parkbench let me check it for you
[07:12] <peet> tiglionabbit: and anyonecan trian it?
[07:12] <James686> so what can I do?
[07:12] <tiglionabbit> peet: well, I just did, didn't I?  Yes
[07:13] <nalioth> the bot gets audited once a week
[07:13] <unome> ubotu All packages that include support for configuration management through *debconf* are configured as they are being installed. If you want to change a configuration option later, you can do so using [dpkg-reconfigure] . To change the configuration options for ssh run: dpkg-reconfigure ssh
[07:13] <ubotu> unome: I think you lost me on that one
[07:13] <unome> lol
[07:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> anyone know what to do with this? http://ubuntuguide.org/sample/mplayer.conf_mplayer
[07:13] <parkbench> ilba7r: thanks...i have a wusb12 v1.1 802.11b (i think prism2_usb) adapter
[07:13] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: stay away from it?
[07:13] <sinferno> whats the difference between snes9x-common and snes9x-opengl
[07:13] <peet> ubotu: peet is the best
[07:13] <ubotu> peet: okay
[07:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> why?
[07:13] <tiglionabbit> !dpkg-reconfigure
[07:13] <SpecialBuddy> how can I install the new version of wine with synaptic
[07:13] <ubotu> No idea, tiglionabbit
[07:13] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: ubuntuguide will lead you to reinstalling
[07:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[07:13] <tiglionabbit> !reconfigure
[07:13] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: Wish i knew
[07:13] <peet> ubotu: are you a supybot
[07:13] <ubotu> peet: Are you smoking crack?
[07:13] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> linux is more complex than i relised
[07:13] <ilba7r> parkbench ok
[07:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'm almost ready to give up
[07:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[07:14] <tiglionabbit> !peet
[07:14] <ubotu> [peet]  the best
[07:14] <tiglionabbit> !peet
[07:14] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: dont do that
[07:14] <peet> :D
[07:14] <_cory> is there anybody who can help me setup ndiswrapper..it's a bitch?
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> Complex? Bah.
[07:14] <tiglionabbit> !peet
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> Its very logical and learnable. :P
[07:14] <SpecialBuddy> it is complex and hard to figure out
[07:14] <jasmuz> can anybody recomend me a frontend to configure iptables tru (im a noob), and i need to set up another pc tru mine
[07:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> well theres so many things that i don't know
[07:14] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: once you learn it, it never changes
[07:14] <peet> tiglionabbit: it forgotme
[07:14] <concept10> _cory, yes
[07:14] <peet> !peet
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> its  not hard to figure out. :P
[07:14] <ubotu> I guess peet is the best
[07:14] <tiglionabbit> peet: no, it just doesn't like me asking the same thing twice
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> lots of redings.
[07:14] <peet> oh :)
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> reading.
[07:14] <concept10> Im BORED and I am here to help!
[07:14] <nalioth> jasmuz: http://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=05/05/09/1846213&tid=78&tid=130
[07:14] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> this os is great it is nice that i own it and all.....but it seems really complex
[07:15] <concept10> who needs help
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> but its very logical in many ways.
[07:15] <SpecialBuddy> can anyone tell me how to get the new version of wine with synaptic
[07:15] <parkbench> ilba7r: also, i didnt compile ndiswrapper, i instlaled with synaptic so...i dont know, does that make it differetn? i dont seem to have th  driver directroy im allgedly supposed to have
[07:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> when comapred to m$
[07:15] <_cory> awesome
[07:15] <peet> ChurcH_of_FoamY: well ms hides its complexity
[07:15] <peet> ChurcH_of_FoamY: its messy complexity
[07:15] <tiglionabbit> ubotu tiglionabbit is a very helpful IRCer.  Ask him stuff, unless it has to do with obscure hardware he hasn't used.
[07:15] <ubotu> okay, tiglionabbit
[07:15] <peet> ChurcH_of_FoamY: linux is clean complexity
[07:15] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: it seems that way, because YOU have much more control over this OS, then you do windoze
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> MS is great when it works... but when it breaks you are SOOO  "S.O.L"
[07:15] <James686> hello?
[07:15] <peet> James686: hi
[07:15] <Razor-X> any joe users in the house?
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> with Linux. when it breaks you can figure out whats wrong and fix it. (with some research)
[07:15] <tiglionabbit> hi James686
[07:15] <James686> help me out installing it plz
[07:16] <tiglionabbit> James686: what's your prob?
[07:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i like that but theres gotta be some sorta way to make things a tad bit easyer
[07:16] <nalioth> Razor-X: you are the jOe KiNg
[07:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> cause now i'm hooked on ubuntu >.<
[07:16] <SpecialBuddy> whats wrong with my computer
[07:16] <Razor-X> nalioth: I saw a joe user on here earlier ;)
[07:16] <nalioth> ChurcH_of_FoamY: you are on easy street right now
[07:16] <ilba7r> parkbench i think they are updating the page so i can not check if the card will work
[07:16] <SpecialBuddy> I can't install things from source
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> Im useing Ubuntu mainly.
[07:16] <nalioth> Razor-X: we are all joe users
[07:16] <SpecialBuddy> I think my compilers are messed up
[07:16] <Razor-X> ChurcH_of_FoamY: wait till you read my CLI guide
[07:16] <James686> ok help, I typed in that line of text for the Nvidia driver, I typed in my password, it said Please insert the CD I did and pressed enter and it CONSTANTLY keeps on saying to Make Label and it says a name to label it, I even typed that in, nothin worked
[07:16] <parkbench> ilba7r: its okay, thanks anwyay
[07:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and what to use it effectivly in my gaming/multimedia ways
[07:16] <James686> thats whats wrong
[07:16] <ilba7r> parkbench i too did try to install the ndiswrapper from synaptic did not work though
[07:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> Razor-x i can't waite
[07:17] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: read wiki.ubuntu.com, ubuntuforums.org, and this here irc chat, and you should be fine
[07:17] <parkbench> worked for me though, i just cant get past that point after install
[07:17] <ilba7r> parkbench i had to download the binary and install it to work
[07:17] <Razor-X> ChurcH_of_FoamY: well, it's in the works, at the moment
[07:17] <tiglionabbit> James686: it asked you to put in a CD?
[07:17] <ilba7r> lets do a check
[07:17] <James686> yes
[07:17] <Razor-X> it's not much now, a simple 15 page document, I believe
[07:17] <tiglionabbit> James686: you mean your ubuntu cd?
[07:17] <MrJangles> thanks for all the help guys
[07:17] <James686> when I typed in that line of script for Nvidia cards
[07:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> for the most part i am fine it's just that i'm starting to wanna fix the little intracacys that bug the hell outta me
[07:17] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i don't know enough >.<
[07:17] <tiglionabbit> James
[07:17] <tiglionabbit> !nvidia
[07:17] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:18] <tiglionabbit> James686: are you doing this ^
[07:18] <James686> omg THAT DOESNT HELP!
[07:18] <James686> YES
[07:18] <ilba7r> parkbench when you type ndiswrapper -l what do you see
[07:18] <vladuz976> how do you search for packages with apt-get?
[07:18] <SpecialBuddy> anyone know why I get this error
[07:18] <SpecialBuddy> Compilation failed, aborting install.
[07:18] <James686> I typed in that line of texT!!!!!!!!!!
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> vladuz976,  use apt-cache search
[07:18] <nalioth> vladuz976: you use "apt-cache search <term>"
[07:18] <tiglionabbit> James686: this one?  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[07:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> like why does my soundcard only let one program access it at a time?
[07:18] <nalioth> SpecialBuddy: could be anything
[07:18] <vladuz976> cool thanks nalioth and Dr_Willis
[07:18] <James686> yes
[07:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and how come the video in mplayer is so damn small >.<
[07:19] <James686> now what?
[07:19] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: because ESD sucks.  Read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[07:19] <SpecialBuddy> what do I need to compile files nalioth?
[07:19] <Iluciv> how does one reset their password here on freenode
[07:19] <tiglionabbit> !sound
[07:19] <ubotu> No idea, tiglionabbit
[07:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok
[07:19] <tiglionabbit> ubotu sound is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[07:19] <ubotu> okay, tiglionabbit
[07:19] <dubious9> hey, I think I'm having DNS problems.  can somebody do a dig for www.kk.org and let me know what the IP comes up as
[07:20] <retrogradesnowco> I installed kubuntu under vmware in windows. how do I access my windows disks, if that's even possible? (they're in NTFS, also)
[07:20] <dubious9> thanks in advance
[07:20] <James686> ???
[07:20] <nalioth> Iluciv: do a /msg nickserv help
[07:20] <tiglionabbit> James686: then what you need to do, if that's not working, is edit your sources to use the internet instead of your cd
[07:20] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[07:20] <ubotu> well, repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:20] <Iluciv> nalioth: thanks
[07:20] <tiglionabbit> James686: read this ^
[07:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> will this howto break my box?
[07:21] <dubious9> probably ;)
[07:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i got it running just the way i like it
[07:21] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: which howto?
[07:21] <JB318> dubious9: I get <IP_ADDRESS>, with www as a cname to bald kk.org
[07:21] <unome> ubotu debconf is a configuration management system. All packages that support *debconf* are configured as they are being installed. If you want to change a configuration option later, you can do so using *dpkg-reconfigure*. To change the configuration options for ssh run: dpkg-reconfigure ssh
[07:21] <ubotu> okay, unome
[07:21] <James686> thats all for the desktop...
[07:21] <unome> !debconf
[07:21] <vladuz976> nalioth, i am looking for xine-lib but can't find it with apt
[07:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[07:21] <retrogradesnowco> anyone know about my disk question?
[07:21] <nalioth> unome, the channel will never see that
[07:21] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: the sound one?  Nah, it works fine for me, hopefully it will work for you
[07:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> if it's gonna break it i don't wanna do it
[07:21] <vladuz976> nalioth, you think it might have a different name
[07:21] <unome> too big?
[07:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> kk
[07:21] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'll try it
[07:21] <dubious9> JB318: thanks.  I'm not getting any return from my dns server.  I'll have to call them up
[07:22] <harold_> How long can you keep a PowerBook running Ubuntu on before it gets too hot?
[07:22] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: good luck.  It's a lot of steps to follow though.  This issue will hopefully be fixed completely by Breezy's release
[07:22] <parkbench> ilba7r: when i do it shows, "prism2_usb invalid driver!"
[07:22] <James686> ok Im gonna get a driver, what OS should it be under?
[07:22] <dubious9> it only happens with some sites though.  not sure what the problem would be.  some kind of propagation error maybe
[07:22] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so whats the diff between breezy and hoary?
[07:22] <James686> Im gonna save it to a CD lol
[07:23] <tiglionabbit> James686: wtf are you talking about?  lol
[07:23] <ilba7r> parkbench than it is not installed i would prefer if you install the binary
[07:23] <ilba7r> parkbench and do not download the latest 1.2 download the 1.1
[07:23] <James686> the Nvidia driver
[07:23] <nalioth> vladuz976: search for 'xine'
[07:23] <tiglionabbit> James686: did you read the repositories wiki?
[07:23] <James686> what OS should it be under?
[07:23] <nalioth> harold_: your PB should never get hot
[07:23] <tiglionabbit> James686: it'll be called "linux x86" wont it?
[07:23] <James686> no because that has to do w/ the desktop
[07:24] <tiglionabbit> James686: no it doesn't, it explains by commandline too
[07:24] <harold_> nalioth: So I can keep it on, theoretically, forever?
[07:24] <nalioth> harold_: yes, theoretically
[07:24] <Razor-X> nalioth: http://www.sosdg.org/~razorx/CLI.pdf
[07:24] <tiglionabbit> James686: you just have to edit /etc/apt/sources.list and remove single #s where necessary, and put a # on the cdrom line to exclude your cd
[07:24] <Amaranth> Warning: Abuse of the bot will result in a ban.
[07:24] <tiglionabbit> !tiglionabbi
[07:24] <ubotu> No idea, tiglionabbit
[07:25] <tiglionabbit> !tiglionabbit
[07:25] <ubotu> well, tiglionabbit is a very helpful IRCer.  Ask him stuff, unless it has to do with obscure hardware he hasn't used.
[07:25] <harold_> nalioth: This PowerBook line runs notoriously hot.  (The joke is that you could cook an egg on its belly.)
[07:25] <Razor-X> nalioth: errr, some errors
[07:25] <tiglionabbit> Amaranth: aw, pweese?
[07:25] <tiglionabbit> !x86
[07:25] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: I don't know
[07:25] <Razor-X> try again
[07:25] <Razor-X> it should be fixed now, nalioth
[07:25] <nalioth> Razor-X: ok
[07:26] <harold_> nalioth: What's your slowest laptop?
[07:26] <tiglionabbit> !xine
[07:26] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:26] <Razor-X> there are quite a few logic errors in the basic commands section
[07:26] <parkbench> ilba7r: from where?
[07:26] <tiglionabbit> !mplayer
[07:26] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: Are you smoking crack?
[07:26] <Razor-X> because, I haven't finished that section
[07:26] <tiglionabbit> lol what
[07:26] <nalioth> harold_: a iBook G3/600
[07:26] <Razor-X> !vlc
[07:26] <ubotu> Razor-X: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:26] <harold_> nalioth: What's been your slowest with Linux?
[07:26] <tiglionabbit> ubotu vlc is a media player with native support for .avi
[07:26] <ubotu> okay, tiglionabbit
[07:26] <Razor-X> I basically lost interest in one section and went to the next ;)
[07:26] <tiglionabbit> !vlc
[07:26] <parkbench> nenevermind, i found
[07:27] <Razor-X> that's why I need info on joe
[07:27] <tiglionabbit> !vlc
[07:27] <ubotu> vlc is probably a media player with native support for .avi
[07:27] <nalioth> harold_: dual cpu intel 400mhz
[07:27] <parkbench> but how will i transfer to that pc? i dont want to waste a cd...shit
[07:27] <tiglionabbit> !linux
[07:27] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: vlc has native support for MANY codecs
[07:27] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, tiglionabbit
[07:27] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: ok, you make a better one
[07:27] <[jon] > [Mario]
[07:27] <harold_> nalioth: LOL, that was you slowest?  I'm on 233MHz
[07:28] <nalioth> harold_: i don't shop at goodwill
[07:28] <ilba7r> parkbench http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=93482
[07:28] <Mario> yes
[07:28] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> brb
[07:28] <harold_> Someone keeps changing my name.
[07:28] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: vlc is probably a media player with native support of just about every known format
[07:28] <harold_> nalioth: LOL
[07:28] <Razor-X> how do you teach ubotue things?
[07:28] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: not wmp, rm, or mov
[07:28] <nalioth> Razor-X: dont abuse the bot
[07:28] <tiglionabbit> which are quite well known
[07:28] <Razor-X> nalioth: I won't
[07:28] <harold_> nalioth: I lucked out finding this PowerBook there; I'd been looking for one for a while
[07:28] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: even known ones
[07:28] <nalioth> holy cow!
[07:29] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: what?
[07:29] <nalioth> Amaranth: wake up
[07:29] <[jon] > what?
[07:29] <tiglionabbit> hey, who are these generic people joining?
[07:29] <tiglionabbit> uh...
[07:29] <[jon] > what?
[07:29] <[jon] > what?
[07:29] <nalioth> zombies
[07:29] <tiglionabbit> are they trying to crank up our user count or something?
[07:29] <Mario> yess
[07:29] <Razor-X> !Razor-X
[07:29] <ubotu> Razor-X: Wish i knew
[07:29] <tiglionabbit> what is this
[07:30] <harold_> nalioth: What?
[07:30] <harold_> What's the deal?
[07:30] <Razor-X> ...............
[07:30] <Razor-X> wow,t hat's sad
[07:30] <harold_> Who are these demons?
[07:30] <nalioth> whaere is amarannth
[07:30] <nalioth> Amaranth: wake up
[07:30] <Razor-X> *wow that's
[07:30] <liable> pwned computers :)
[07:30] <harold_> nalioth: What does Amaranth do?
[07:30] <nalioth> harold_: Amaranth is an op
[07:30] <Razor-X> !Razor-X
[07:30] <harold_> nalioth: Ah, i had a feeling.
[07:30] <ubotu> Razor-X: Are you smoking crack?
[07:30] <Razor-X> hahahaha!
[07:30] <nalioth> attention in teh channel! this is why i hate windows so much
[07:31] <Razor-X> !Amaranth
[07:31] <liable> !ops _|DioS33|_ something fishy
[07:31] <ubotu> Wish i knew, liable
[07:31] <nalioth> zombies
[07:31] <liable> wah, no ops
[07:31] <Amaranth> hi
[07:31] <peet> nalioth: what?
[07:31] <vladuz976> hey, i am trying to use this shell script which i use for fedora onubuntu now, but since ubuntu has no root. it doesn't really work, can someone take a look at it?
[07:31] <Amaranth> ack
[07:31] <tiglionabbit> nalioth: huh?
[07:31] <harold_> What's a zombie?
[07:31] <hondje>  /msg chanserv op #ubuntu
[07:31] <hondje> :)
[07:31] <tiglionabbit> vladuz976: use sudo
[07:31] <nalioth> Amaranth: why are all the zombies here?
[07:31] <tiglionabbit> !sudo
[07:31] <ubotu> [sudo]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo
[07:31] <hondje> oooh, now I have to be nice to nalioth
[07:31] <Amaranth> nalioth: I'm looking for the limit command
[07:31] <Razor-X> hmmm... weher's my typesetting obsessed friend... -_-
[07:31] <Amaranth> nalioth: For now start banning
[07:31] <vladuz976> tiglionabbit, it's a shell script. so just go sudo ./file
[07:31] <vladuz976> ?
[07:31] <Razor-X> *ypesetting
[07:31] <hondje> Amaranth: user -J
[07:31] <tiglionabbit> vladuz976: yes
[07:31] <Razor-X> **typesetting
[07:32] <hondje> er, use J
[07:32] <HIIIITLER> [jon]
[07:32] <liable> Amaranth: J
[07:32] <HIIIITLER> Mario
[07:32] <hondje> -L sets a hard limit IIRC, J x,y lets you throttle joins
[07:32] <HIIIITLER> otro
[07:32] <harold_> I'm guessing nalioth is going to town on the Zombies.
[07:32] <tiglionabbit> uhhh
[07:32] <vladuz976> tiglionabbit, i get an eroor
[07:32] <HostingGeek> OMG
[07:32] <HostingGeek> WTF
[07:32] <Amaranth> shit
[07:32] <JB318> BBQ
[07:32] <tiglionabbit> can someone explain to me what is happening?
[07:32] <HostingGeek> some add +f to this channel
[07:32] <tiglionabbit> in english plz?
[07:32] <HostingGeek> Amaranth: here add the following mode
[07:33] <Razor-X> isn't it obvious?
[07:33] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: no
[07:33] <HostingGeek> Ohh never mind
[07:33] <Razor-X> hahahaha!
[07:33] <HostingGeek> you already have it
[07:33] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: I see that a ton of things are joining the channel, but why?
[07:33] <vladuz976> tiglionabbit, http://rafb.net/paste/results/NOfs2342.html
[07:33] <tiglionabbit> and now they're dead
[07:33] <Amaranth> join/part flood
[07:33] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: you've never seen a spam, before?
[07:33] <nalioth> boys, that was a windows zombie attack
[07:33] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: I've never seen a join-spam
[07:33] <Razor-X> the guy keeps trying to do something for my client
[07:33] <tiglionabbit> windows zombie attack?
[07:34] <hondje> zombies eat your braaaaanes
[07:34] <Razor-X> I don't use mIRC, sorry
[07:34] <Razor-X> ;)
[07:34] <tiglionabbit> vladuz976: that error just says cvs isn't found.  Install it
[07:34] <tiglionabbit> !cvs
[07:34] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:35] <vladuz976> tiglionabbit, how do i install cvs?
[07:35] <HostingGeek> Amaranth: set ban on *_|*!*@* and *|_*!*@*
[07:35] <tiglionabbit> vladuz976: with synaptic or apt-get
[07:35] <Amaranth> HostingGeek: No, that's too broad.
[07:35] <ChurcH> i got a box on my screen called informational-artsmessage >.<
[07:35] <vladuz976> tiglionabbit, sudo apt-get install cvs
[07:35] <vladuz976> ?
[07:35] <tiglionabbit> vladuz976: yes
[07:35] <HostingGeek> Amaranth: no its not
[07:35] <liable> nicks that start with _ should be banned anyay :)
[07:35] <vladuz976> tiglionabbit, says unmet dependencies
[07:36] <ChurcH> and it says somethings messd up
[07:36] <tiglionabbit> vladuz976: really?  Read this then
[07:36] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[07:36] <ubotu> rumour has it, repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[07:36] <Amaranth> someone say my name
[07:36] <tiglionabbit> Amaranth
[07:36] <hondje> Amaranth:
[07:36] <HostingGeek> Amaranth: no one right now has _|
[07:36] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> amaranth ^_^
[07:36] <Amaranth> perfect
[07:36] <harold_> ubotu: That joke never loses its humor.  Or does it?
[07:36] <HostingGeek> Amaranth: or |_
[07:36] <ubotu> harold_: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:36] <vladuz976> tiglionabbit, i already added those
[07:36] <Amaranth> HostingGeek: So? They might in the future.
[07:36] <HostingGeek> Amaranth: in there nick
[07:36] <vladuz976> tiglionabbit, you told me earlier
[07:36] <harold_> Rumor has it...
[07:37] <HostingGeek> Amaranth: for now... ban it for the next 20min
[07:37] <harold_> ...oh, forget it!
[07:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> can anyone help solve this error i got
[07:37] <Amaranth> HostingGeek: I already have them covered.
[07:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it has to do with my sound
[07:37] <tiglionabbit> vladuz976: then cvs should be able to install.  It is a supported package.  Do you have non-ubuntu repositories?
[07:37] <vladuz976> no
[07:37] <harold_> I keep getting this error that says I'm not smart enough to use Ubunut.
[07:37] <HostingGeek> Amaranth: Can I ask you on your fav. shades of brown? in a /msg or #clearlooks ?
[07:37] <harold_> See what I mean/
[07:37] <harold_> ?
[07:37] <vladuz976> only the stuff from the guide... tiglionabbit
[07:37] <concept10> I need something new, someone recommend a good app for me to play around with, im bored
[07:37] <tiglionabbit> vladuz976: have you said sudo apt-get update recently
[07:37] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> harold_ same here
[07:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i think it just called me stupid >.<
[07:38] <Amaranth> HostingGeek: err
[07:38] <harold_> Church_of_FoamY: LOL
[07:38] <vladuz976> tiglionabbit, after i added the repos
[07:38] <Amaranth> HostingGeek: I don't really care for brown at all.
[07:38] <tiglionabbit> brown is awesome, whatchoo talkin bout
[07:38] <harold_> I need to figure out how to quick-insert usernames in IRc
[07:38] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i followd this to the letter: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063
[07:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and rebooted now i get a sound error at startup that dosen't mean a thing to me
[07:39] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: okay, and then you restart, and then ..
[07:39] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[07:39] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what do it say?
[07:39] <tsunamii> how do i install something via synaptic?
[07:39] <tiglionabbit> tsunamii: click on it
[07:39] <HostingGeek> Amaranth: Well can I still /msg you?
[07:39] <vladuz976> tiglionabbit, synaptic does it
[07:39] <harold_> Can I live without a GUI?
[07:39] <SpecialBuddy> I can't figure out how to install something from source
[07:39] <tiglionabbit> harold_: yes
[07:39] <Amaranth> HostingGeek: That depends on the topic.
[07:39] <SpecialBuddy> everytime I try It fails
[07:39] <tsunamii> but then i don't know what's the best place to install it
[07:39] <harold_> tiglionabbit: Are you certain?
[07:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> acording to the howto i need more brans to finish this
[07:40] <nalioth> harold_: start typing a nick, and tab-complete it
[07:40] <tiglionabbit> harold_: depends.  Does not seeing graphics make you go insane?
[07:40] <HostingGeek> Amaranth: topic is html notations
[07:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> beacuse it needs more tweaking
[07:40] <tiglionabbit> harold_: you can do most everything on the terminal, but most people wouldn't want to
[07:40] <vladuz976> tiglionabbit, synaptic list a lot of stuff when i search cvs what do i need to install?
[07:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> or my soundcard dosen't support it >.<
[07:40] <Amaranth> HostingGeek: I don't even know what those are.
[07:40] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i don't know which it is
[07:40] <idleCat> Any news on mono 1.1.8 ?\
[07:40] <tiglionabbit> vladuz976: the one that is called "cvs" and has an ubuntu logo next to it
[07:40] <vladuz976> tiglionabbit, ok
[07:41] <harold_> tiglionabbit: I dig using the terminal, but I can't see using it to, say, surf the web or edit audio.
[07:41] <tsunamii> i want to install the macromedia plugin - but i want to do it in the correct place easily
[07:41] <harold_> (or edit video, for that matter)
[07:41] <tsunamii> i was told that synaptic could do it
[07:41] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> arrghh >.< i like this os why must it tourture me
[07:41] <tiglionabbit> harold_: tried links or w3m ?
[07:41] <vladuz976> tiglionabbit, working ;-)
[07:41] <Amaranth> tsunamii: flashplayer-mozilla or mozilla-flashplayer
[07:41] <tsunamii> eh?
[07:41] <tiglionabbit> no no, install flash through your web browser
[07:41] <Amaranth> tsunamii: Can't remember which one it is, one of those will install it.
[07:41] <harold_> But for communicating via IRC, email, etc - no prob.  I've used Lynx, but I'd rather mozilla
[07:41] <tiglionabbit> it's easier that way
[07:41] <harold_> or Firefox
[07:42] <tsunamii> what do you mean Amaranth ?
[07:42] <tsunamii> it's for firefox
[07:42] <tiglionabbit> harold_: true, no problem in having both
[07:42] <Amaranth> tsunamii: I know, this is how you install it.
[07:42] <tsunamii> ?
[07:42] <HostingGeek> Amaranth: html color numbers
[07:42] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i give up
[07:42] <tiglionabbit> tsunamii: to install flash, just go to a flashed page and click on the puzzle piece
[07:42] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: on what?
[07:42] <tsunamii> doesn't work, now i have to do a manual install
[07:42] <harold_> tiglionabbit: But once I'm done editing audio, for example, I prefer using the terminal to encode using lame and then upload using sftp
[07:42] <Amaranth> HostingGeek: Ok...I just use The GIMP to get those.
[07:43] <SpecialBuddy> can I turn something thats source into a .deb
[07:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> on my sound problem it is both beyond my understanding and to complex for my lvl of linux knowledge
[07:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i just broke most of my sound
[07:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> using that howto somehow
[07:43] <tiglionabbit> SpecialBuddy: I believe there is a program called checkinstall that you can use in place of the make install command to do a debian-style install of it
[07:43] <Razor-X> ChurcH_of_FoamY: that's why you upgrade from lvl to level ;)
[07:43] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i followd it to the letter
[07:43] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: what is the error?
[07:43] <Razor-X> how is 'lvl' an abbreviation, none of the keys are on the home row
[07:44] <Razor-X> what is the problem?
[07:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> in a game i play it is
[07:44] <nalioth> SpecialBuddy: yes, use "checkinstall"
[07:44] <SpecialBuddy> ok
[07:44] <SpecialBuddy> thanks
[07:44] <tiglionabbit> !checkinstall
[07:44] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[07:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i don't know it just dosen't make sound now at the startup
[07:44] <harold_> SpecialBuddy: Funny name (or creepy; it's one or the other)
[07:44] <tiglionabbit> would somebody define a !checkinstall ?
[07:44] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> but other sounds still work from diffrent programs
[07:44] <Razor-X> I tried defining my name
[07:44] <Razor-X> but, I failed
[07:44] <Razor-X> ;)
[07:44] <tiglionabbit> !Razor-X
[07:44] <ubotu> Wish i knew, tiglionabbit
[07:45] <harold_> Define "irony"
[07:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i still have the box that poped up on startup
[07:45] <tiglionabbit> ubotu Razor-X is a nifty guy
[07:45] <ubotu> okay, tiglionabbit
[07:45] <Razor-X> harold_: if something is full of iron
[07:45] <tiglionabbit> !tiglionabbit
[07:45] <ubotu> well, tiglionabbit is a very helpful IRCer.   It makes a simple deb for installation
[07:45] <ubotu> nalioth: okay
[07:45] <Razor-X> ahhh, I see ;)
[07:45] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i'll pastebin it for you
[07:45] <harold_> Razor-X: "A" for effort
[07:46] <tiglionabbit> ubotu forget Razor-X
[07:46] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: i forgot razor-x
[07:46] <tiglionabbit> there, now make one, Razor-X
[07:46] <harold_> Man, it's taking long to upload via sftp tonight!  Usually it's lighting-fast.
[07:46] <Razor-X> ubotu Razor-X is your friendly asexual Ubuntu power-user who is probably writing a guide about command-line usage for beginners
[07:46] <ubotu> Razor-X: okay
[07:46] <Razor-X> !Razor-X
[07:46] <ubotu> it has been said that razor-x is your friendly asexual Ubuntu power-user who is probably writing a guide about command-line usage for beginners
[07:46] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: asexual?
[07:46] <harold_> ubotu: Now it's a rumor.
[07:46] <ubotu> Wish i knew, harold_
[07:46] <nalioth> y'all dont fill the bot with crap, fill him with useful info
[07:46] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: look up human asexual in wikipedia
[07:47] <HostingGeek> Amaranth: can you read it?
[07:47] <tiglionabbit> o.O
[07:47] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: uh....?
[07:48] <nalioth> ubotu forget Razor-X
[07:48] <ubotu> i forgot razor-x, nalioth
[07:48] <nalioth> ubotu forget peet
[07:48] <Razor-X> .................
[07:48] <ubotu> i forgot peet, nalioth
[07:48] <Razor-X> nalioth: stop that!
[07:48] <tiglionabbit> hey nalioth, don't ruin our fun
[07:48] <concept10> asexual?
[07:48] <Amaranth> Warning: Abuse of the bot will result in a ban.
[07:48] <Razor-X> ubotu Razor-X is your friendly asexual Ubuntu power-user who is probably writing a guide about command-line usage for beginners
[07:48] <ubotu> Razor-X: okay
[07:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> now according to this: http://pastebin.com/308219
[07:48] <nalioth> ubotu forget tiglionrabbit
[07:48] <ubotu> nalioth: i didn't have anything called 'tiglionrabbit'
[07:48] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> my box is arguing with it's self?
[07:49] <Razor-X> Amaranth: can you lock definitions of helpers?
[07:49] <signbarn> What's the command to see the free space on your mounted drives?
[07:49] <tiglionabbit> yay, saved by nalioth's misspelling of my name.    What does it run on?
[07:50] <Amaranth> tiglionabbit: Are you so special that you need an entry in the bot? :)
[07:50] <Razor-X> how much does it have?
[07:50] <tiglionabbit> Amaranth: well I spend a lot of time here now, I thought, why not?
[07:50] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> what a bot and what dose it do?
[07:50] <concept10> !ubotu asexual is something we would rather not talk about
[07:50] <ubotu> concept10: okay
[07:51] <Razor-X> Amaranth: I was thinking that the frequent helpers here should have titles, but if the memory is that limited, I don't want to take up useful space
[07:51] <concept10> !asexual
[07:51] <ubotu> asexual is, like, something we would rather not talk about
[07:51] <Razor-X> concept10: thanks ;)
[07:51] <tiglionabbit> rofl
[07:51] <Amaranth> ubotu forget asexual
[07:51] <ubotu> i forgot asexual, Amaranth
[07:51] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: how old are you, and why do you consider yourself this?
[07:51] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> any idea?
[07:51] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: uggghhhh, ;)
[07:51] <Amaranth> it gets filled with garbage all the time, on accident
[07:51] <Razor-X> !vlc
[07:51] <ubotu> rumour has it, vlc is a media player with native support for .avi
[07:52] <Amaranth> for example:
[07:52] <Razor-X> ubotu forget vlc
[07:52] <ubotu> i forgot vlc, Razor-X
[07:52] <Amaranth> vlc is awesome!
[07:52] <Razor-X> of course
[07:52] <nalioth> Razor-X: fix the vlc entry
[07:52] <Amaranth> hmm, i guess he fixed that
[07:52] <Razor-X> and therefore defines a fitting vlc entry
[07:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> what is a bot?
[07:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is it some sorta ai program?
[07:52] <harold_> Church: Ever see the Jetsons?
[07:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> yea
[07:52] <harold_> Church: Exactly
[07:52] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[07:52] <concept10> can it contain links?
[07:52] <tiglionabbit> yes
[07:52] <harold_> Church: It's a program that acts like it's real.
[07:52] <tiglionabbit> !restricted
[07:52] <ubotu> methinks restricted is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RestrictedFormats
[07:52] <nalioth> !restricted
[07:52] <Razor-X> ubotu vlc is a media player with excellent native support for almost all known formats excluding a rare few proprietary formats and can be obtained using 'sudo apt-get install vlc'
[07:52] <ubotu> Razor-X: okay
[07:53] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wow thats awsome
[07:53] <concept10> thank god for links
[07:53] <Razor-X> there we are, now, I don't have to spell out VLC any longer
[07:53] <harold_> Church: it automates, in other words (like AI)
[07:53] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: rare few?  you mean all proprietary formats?
[07:53] <harold_> For example, nalioth is a bot.
[07:53] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ubotu how are you?
[07:53] <ubotu> mas o menos, ChurcH_of_FoamY
[07:53] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: the only format my VLC can't play is WMV
[07:53] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: I'd like to see a list of the formats vlc does support and the ones it doesn't.  I'm pretty sure there are more that it doesn't
[07:53] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ?
[07:53] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: rm, mov?
[07:53] <Razor-X> and that's because I haven't compiled the support in
[07:53] <harold_> Church: I'm just kidding, nalioth isn't a bot.
[07:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh
[07:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok
[07:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> >.<
[07:54] <concept10> heh
[07:54] <harold_> I'm a bot, though.
[07:54] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: and on a intel box, vlc can play some wmv
[07:54] <Razor-X> mov and rm work
[07:54] <Amaranth> Razor-X: Did Jon ever provide the patch to make vlc handle vc1 files?
[07:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_O
[07:54] <tiglionabbit> lol harold_ stop playing with him
[07:54] <harold_> Church: I'm just kidding.
[07:54] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: not for me
[07:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok i'm lost
[07:54] <Razor-X> Amaranth: nopes
[07:54] <concept10> bot, who said bot, yes I run on a loney server somewhere
[07:54] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: when I play a .mov vlc crashes.  When I play an .rm it gives a messagebox saying it can't
[07:54] <Amaranth> Razor-X: Then you can't play WMV3 files with vlc yet
[07:54] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> which one of you are bot and which ones people? O_o o_O
[07:55] <harold_> Church: Google has a bot that scours the Internet, caching sites.
[07:55] <Razor-X> hmmm... maybe i'm wrong about .rm, but .mov I played a short while back
[07:55] <harold_> That's the truth.
[07:55] <Razor-X> ChurcH_of_FoamY: exactly
[07:55] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: there's only one bot, it's oBOTu
[07:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> oh ok
[07:55] <Razor-X> in fact, I should get off my ass, and do it now
[07:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i get it
[07:55] <Razor-X> for something as deserving as VLC
[07:55] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: I just downloaded the QT music video and it crashes
[07:55] <harold_> Church: But there's different types of bots, varying in complexity.
[07:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so now that my mind has been warped any ideas to my question
[07:55] <vladuz976> i am getting these errors: aclocal: command not found.   is that something i need to install separately?
[07:55] <nalioth> tiglionabbit: i dont think vlc supports modern quicktime
[07:55] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> thats neat
[07:56] <Amaranth> quicktime is just a container format
[07:56] <harold_> Church: None of them, to my knowledge, will fool you too long, though.  Most bots will reveal their limitations soon enough.
[07:56] <Amaranth> you mean vlc doesn't handle h.264
[07:56] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> cause i an't hitten ok in that box till someone says it's ok
[07:56] <Razor-X> nalioth: try the Metroid Prime 2 trailers, or the Revelations movie
[07:56] <Razor-X> Amaranth: I thought it does?
[07:56] <Amaranth> Razor-X: Well, it handles SD versions.
[07:57] <tiglionabbit> When I try to play the trailers from nintendo.com, vlc has no sound
[07:57] <tiglionabbit> how do I get vlc to support things like this?
[07:57] <Troglodyt> is there an application that will keep track of when my internet connection is active?  I need to know how often I drop offline
[07:57] <tiglionabbit> ubotu forget vlc
[07:57] <ubotu> i forgot vlc, tiglionabbit
[07:58] <harold_> Also: Is there an application that will tell you how much HD space you have left?
[07:58] <cyphase> woohoo
[07:58] <tiglionabbit> ubotu vlc is a media player that plays some formats natively.
[07:58] <ubotu> okay, tiglionabbit
[07:58] <nalioth> harold_: 'discus'
[07:58] <cyphase> my server's been up almost 58 days
[07:58] <SpecialBuddy> how do you use this checkinstall
[07:58] <harold_> nalioth: coolness
[07:58] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> so can i hit enter on that error or what?
[07:58] <mindstorm> checkinstall help
[07:58] <tiglionabbit> SpecialBuddy: they said you use it in place of `make install`
[07:58] <nalioth> !checkinstall
[07:58] <ubotu> it has been said that checkinstall is a program used in place of "make install". It makes a simple deb for installation
[07:58] <vladuz976> tiglionabbit, is there other stuff i need to install to use cvs?
[07:59] <tiglionabbit> vladuz976: apt should handle it for you, as long as your repositories are correct
[07:59] <vladuz976> tiglionabbit, i am getting this: aclocal: command not found
[07:59] <vladuz976> tiglionabbit,  and this :autoheader: command not found
[07:59] <Amaranth> vladuz976: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:00] <vladuz976> Amaranth, i did
[08:00] <Razor-X> back
[08:00] <nalioth> vladuz976: install "build-essential"
[08:00] <tiglionabbit> Amaranth: I think he may need more than that
[08:00] <HostingGeek> I need some ginny pigs
[08:00] <tiglionabbit> autoconfig is in a different package
[08:00] <HostingGeek> Who wants to be one
[08:00] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: you gave it an unholy description of VLC !
[08:00] <tiglionabbit> I can't remember which one
[08:00] <SpecialBuddy> what do I put after checkinstall
[08:00] <HostingGeek> you must like browns!
[08:00] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> crosses fingers hits ENTER
[08:00] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: VLC CAN'T play "almost everything"
[08:00] <nalioth> SpecialBuddy: hit the enter key
[08:00] <HostingGeek> Amaranth: why did you do that
[08:00] <lucifer> Question : Hello; how do I reach to my files at my memory stick after connecting it ? (If your answer is mounting the drive, then how do I know which usb port I'm using? I guess there is 8 of them)
[08:00] <Razor-X> of course it can
[08:00] <_cory> can anybody help me with changing directory user permissions
[08:01] <SpecialBuddy> I guess I don't get how to use this
[08:01] <vladuz976> nalioth, says its installed
[08:01] <Razor-X> on my box, it can
[08:01] <Amaranth> HostingGeek: People are screwing with it.
[08:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> O_O
[08:01] <Razor-X> if you can't get it to work..... -_-
[08:01] <HostingGeek> !ubotu jump in the lake
[08:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> it works still
[08:01] <tiglionabbit> lucifer: does it pop up as an icon on your desktop?
[08:01] <Amaranth> It does, but you can't see it here.
[08:01] <Razor-X> doesen't mean that, in ideal circumstances, it doesen't
[08:01] <lucifer> tiglionabbit: i wish it did
[08:01] <tiglionabbit> lucifer: you should be able to lsusb to see what your usb ports have in em
[08:01] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wow it diden't crash ^_^
[08:01] <lucifer> thank you
[08:01] <HostingGeek> Who likes browns!?!??!
[08:02] <HostingGeek> I need someone who likes browns!
[08:02] <tiglionabbit> I LIKE BROWNS
[08:02] <Razor-X> HostingGeek: brown?
[08:02] <Razor-X> as in "South Asian"?
[08:02] <HostingGeek> No
[08:03] <Razor-X> !joe
[08:03] <tiglionabbit> guys, why do you say there is limited memory in ubotu?
[08:03] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> can anyone recommend a good cheap soundcard for ubuntu/kubuntu?
[08:03] <Razor-X> ubotu left?
[08:03] <Razor-X> tiglionabbit: it must have a limited HDD space
[08:03] <SpecialBuddy> I still don't get this checkinstall and maybe this isn't what I even need to use
[08:04] <sladen> ChurcH_of_FoamY: any should do
[08:04] <Razor-X> regardless, any joe users?
[08:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok cause i think my onboard one is crap
[08:04] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> maybe thats what that error means
[08:04] <Razor-X> uggghhhh, writing a book is tough, and gets boring after a while -_-
[08:05] <Razor-X> that reminds me...   It doesn't work for everyone.  Do you hear system sounds now?  Can you play things in a media player?
[08:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i can still for some reason
[08:05] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> only play sound from one prog at a time
[08:06] <Razor-X> anyone want to coauthor with me?
[08:06] <Razor-X> preferrable, one versed in LaTeX?
[08:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> and i need to play sounds from to diffrent apps at once
[08:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> if teamspeak is running nothing else will
[08:06] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> same with all other sound producing apps
[08:07] <tiglionabbit> Razor-X: how limited must its space be for it to not be able to contain too many single lines of text?  I mean sheesh
[08:07] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: same thing happens to me
[08:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> is there a reason for that?
[08:07] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: behaved a little bit better after following that guide, but otherwise not perfect
[08:07] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i don't see any diffrent results accept the sound is somewhat clearer
[08:07] <tiglionabbit> dunno man, seems to be Hoary's way.  I hear it's fixed in Breezy, so you can look forward to that in mid October, but for now..  ask an admin how he fixed it
[08:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> good idea
[08:08] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> i like this release how much diffrent will it be?
[08:08] <SpecialBuddy> do I need to set something up in order to install things from source
[08:09] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: well, it'll fix a lot of problems...
[08:09] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> cool ^_^
[08:09] <tiglionabbit> SpecialBuddy: well you need build-essential
[08:09] <SpecialBuddy> where do I get that
[08:09] <SpecialBuddy> synaptic?
[08:09] <tiglionabbit> SpecialBuddy: you will also need whatever libraries the program you're compiling requires
[08:09] <tiglionabbit> SpecialBuddy: yeah
[08:10] <SpecialBuddy> I just want to install wine from source
[08:10] <SpecialBuddy> because thats the only way I can get the newer version
[08:10] <tiglionabbit> SpecialBuddy: can't you get a .deb of the most recent version?
[08:10] <SpecialBuddy> I don't think so
[08:10] <IceDC571> no, compile wine!
[08:11] <IceDC571> compile the latest wine!
[08:11] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: is there a guide?
[08:11] <tiglionabbit> !wine
[08:11] <SpecialBuddy> well I get errors everytime I try to do that
[08:11] <tiglionabbit> gah, why have they taken ubotu away from us!?
[08:11] <tiglionabbit> SpecialBuddy: what errors?
[08:11] <tiglionabbit> SpecialBuddy: they're trying to tell you something, I swear
[08:11] <IceDC571> if you're having a problem with the latest wine, ask me
[08:12] <SpecialBuddy> ok
[08:12] <SpecialBuddy> I might have to do that but rigth now I can't
[08:12] <SpecialBuddy> but most likely I'm going to have questions
[08:12] <zeeeee> hi all, it seems right now i can't run apps that use esd and jack audio systems at the same time... is there any solution to this?
[08:12] <tiglionabbit> zeeeee: welcome to the hoary club
[08:13] <zeeeee> tiglionabbit, hello
[08:13] <lucifer> Question again : when I use "lsusb", i just get a list starting with "Bus 004 Device 001.. en ending  Bus 001 Device 001" ; on my /dev/ folder where my usb ports would be ? It's not sda1 or something. I just can't figure out.
[08:13] <SpecialBuddy> I used 200505whatever, and I couldn't run certain things so I thought I would get the newer version
[08:13] <zeeeee> tiglionabbit, are you telling me there's no solution?
[08:13] <IceDC571> SpecialBuddy: what couldn't you run?
[08:14] <tiglionabbit> zeeeee: there's a solution, but only the admins here seem to know it.  There's a forum thread that might help a little, but still doesn't make things play at the same time and mix
[08:15] <tiglionabbit> Amaranth:  *poke*
[08:15] <parkbench> i need to get this ndiswrapper source from this computer to the linux
[08:15] <jasoncohen> what's the best way to start beagle on boot? should i start it with gnome or as a service?
[08:15] <parkbench> ideas?
[08:15] <parkbench> i dont want to waste a cd
[08:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> wow the ubuntu facts are kinda neat
[08:15] <jasoncohen> i don't want it to open over and over again if i restart gnome
[08:15] <SpecialBuddy> I couldn't get starcraft to work
[08:15] <stevenj> Can someone please tell me what this means? http://rafb.net/paste/results/gQ8K4j88.html
[08:15] <parkbench> i tried ptuting it on my external but for some reason when i connect it to linuxbox the files disappear
[08:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> or faq's even
[08:15] <parkbench> and floppies ar totaly fucked up and not working for some reason...i think ive exhausted everything but am i missing something?
[08:15] <tiglionabbit> ChurcH_of_FoamY: where?
[08:15] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> although it wasen't what i was looking for
[08:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> www.ubuntu.com
[08:16] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> are the things called "snapshots" safe to use?
[08:17] <Amaranth> tiglionabbit: hi.
[08:17] <tiglionabbit> hi Amaranth.  Did you happen to know how to make it mix audio?
[08:17] <Amaranth> tiglionabbit: Make what what?
[08:17] <tiglionabbit> in hoary, have multiple programs play their sounds at the same time
[08:18] <tiglionabbit> in an elegant fashion
[08:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> multiple sounds from diffrent apps at once
[08:18] <SpecialBuddy> IceDC571
[08:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ok that too lol
[08:18] <IceDC571> SpecialBuddy
[08:18] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> we both have the same problem actually
[08:18] <tiglionabbit> Amaranth: also, where'd ubotu go?  I miss him.  He was my friend
[08:19] <IceDC571> oh starcraft?
[08:19] <SpecialBuddy> IceDC571, to compile from source I just have to use wineinstall right
[08:19] <Blue_Summer> Can anyone tell me how to connect to the GameSurge servers?
[08:19] <Blue_Summer> onIRC
[08:19] <IceDC571> SpecialBuddy: yep
[08:19] <SpecialBuddy> ok
[08:19] <ChurcH_of_FoamY> ubotu you there?
[08:19] <Amaranth> tiglionabbit: No idea and I made him go away because you guys abused him.
[08:19] <SpecialBuddy> I'm doing that
[08:19] <SpecialBuddy> I'll let you know how it goes
[08:19] <IceDC571> okay
[08:19] <tiglionabbit> Amaranth: aw, that makes me sad.  What's so wrong with giving him different entries?
[08:19] <tiglionabbit> Amaranth: he saves me a lot of repeating myself
[08:21] <Amaranth> tiglionabbit: I could make everyone that abused him go away instead. ;)
[08:21] <Blue_Summer> Guys: Using XCHAT how do i get onto the GameSurge Servers? (On mIRC its automatically listed)
[08:21] <tiglionabbit> Amaranth: aw, seriously though why can't he have lots of entries?
[08:21] <IceDC571> does gamesurge have anything to do with Ubuntu?
[08:21] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: xchat sort of does
[08:22] <Blue_Summer> IceDC571, Xchat does
[08:22] <IceDC571> okay
[08:22] <solar_ant> hiiiii !!!!!
[08:22] <_root_> hi
[08:22] <Blue_Summer> Hi
[08:22] <tiglionabbit> Blue_Summer: you need to type in the full server name, like irc.gamesurge.net or whatever it is
[08:22] <Amaranth> tiglionabbit: Signal/noise ratio gets out of whack.
[08:22] <Blue_Summer> ahh ty tiglionabbit
[08:22] <solar_ant> i get a child terminated with status error 1
[08:22] <tiglionabbit> solar_ant: ah, generic error
[08:22] <solar_ant> everytime i try to change my system settings , like packet manager or networking
[08:23] <solar_ant> tiglionabbit,  how do i go aabt it ?
[08:23] <tiglionabbit> solar_ant: what exactly are you doing?
[08:23] <_root_> does xorg-x11-devel requires on xorg-x11
[08:23] <solar_ant> i click on synaptic packet manager
[08:23] <solar_ant> it asks for my password
[08:24] <solar_ant> once i type
[08:24] <solar_ant> it says
[08:24] <solar_ant> child terminated with 1 status
[08:24] <tiglionabbit> Amaranth: uh, I think it actually saves people time, because they can have ubotu point out a link instead of having to explain things theirself
[08:24] <Amaranth> tiglionabbit: That helps, sure.
[08:24] <tiglionabbit> solar_ant: are you typing your password right?
[08:24] <Amaranth> tiglionabbit: Goofy entries and entries about yourself diminish the goodness though.
[08:25] <solar_ant> yeah
[08:25] <solar_ant> when i type a wrong password it says password error
[08:26] <tiglionabbit> solar_ant: when you just run `gksudo ls` or something equally retarded, what does it say after you enter your password?
[08:27] <solar_ant> it doesnt say anything after i enetr my password
[08:27] <solar_ant> bu before i do it says
[08:27] <solar_ant> gdk warning locale not supported by xlib
[08:27] <Blue_Summer> tiglionabbit, is there a command like /nick to change name inside Xchat?
[08:27] <sinferno> when i edit my fstab, under type would i put someting like ntfs or vfat, i have ntfs so i guess i would put that?
[08:27] <sinferno> or is that something totally different
[08:28] <tiglionabbit> Blue_Summer: yes
[08:28] <solar_ant> gdk - warning cannot set locale modifiers
[08:28] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: yes
[08:28] <sinferno> ok thanks
[08:28] <sinferno> just making sure
[08:28] <sinferno> i edited my fstab once and had to reinstall
[08:28] <sinferno> lol
[08:28] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: safest way to check what you should put is, mount it, and then say 'mount' and see what mount mounted it as
[08:28] <Blue_Summer> tiglionabbit,  well whats the command ? :P
[08:28] <solar_ant> and now it said the same error
[08:29] <solar_ant> when i tried the command again
[08:29] <sinferno> its mounted and working perfect
[08:29] <tiglionabbit> Blue_Summer: /nick some-idiot
[08:29] <solar_ant> child terminated with 1 status
[08:29] <sinferno> but i had problems last time with permissions
[08:29] <solar_ant> and it also says
[08:29] <solar_ant> solar is not in
[08:29] <solar_ant> solar is not in
[08:29] <solar_ant> solar is the username
[08:29] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, oh badass thats nice thanks
[08:30] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: if it's mounted, say `mount` and look at the line about it.  mount prints out what things are mounted
[08:30] <tiglionabbit> yeah
[08:30] <solar_ant> tiglionabbit,  ????
[08:30] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, yeah that works good
[08:30] <sinferno> what is dump and pass?
[08:30] <Amaranth> woo, yet another freenode staff member is enjoying the ubuntu goodness
[08:30] <tiglionabbit> dunno
[08:30] <Blue_Summer> help! I tried running a program and it proper zoomed into my screen and i have to move my mouse to the edges to scroll lol
[08:30] <Blue_Summer> how can i unzoom
[08:31] <solar_ant> anyone ???
[08:31] <tiglionabbit> Burgundavia: oo, I hate that display mode.  uh...
[08:31] <Blue_Summer> Anyone know its kinda urgent
[08:31] <tiglionabbit> oops, meant to say that to Blue_Summer
[08:31] <Amaranth> Blue_Summer: Ctrl-Alt-+, iirc
[08:31] <tiglionabbit> Blue_Summer: dunno what you do to change it.. there may be a key combo
[08:31] <tiglionabbit> yeah that one
[08:33] <ksmurf> anyone here use vmware?
[08:33] <Amaranth> ksmurf: I've used it.
[08:33] <solar_ant> is there anyone who knows how to solve this problem ?
[08:33] <solar_ant> it shows child process terminated with 1 status
[08:33] <Amaranth> solar_ant: what command are you running?
[08:33] <solar_ant> whenever i try to run anything with gksudo
[08:34] <Amaranth> solar_ant: hmm
[08:34] <ksmurf> Amaranth  ... I worked great for that windows proggie that I couldn't get the altern for.  Can you game in it too?
[08:34] <sinferno> would it be bad to download the nvidia drivers from the site and use those, because the ones i got in the package thing arnt working very well
[08:34] <sinferno> when it comes to opengl
[08:34] <Amaranth> ksmurf: Not really, no.
[08:34] <Amaranth> ksmurf: It doesn't do 3D acceleration at all.
[08:35] <solar_ant> Amaranth,  ?
[08:35] <solar_ant> any idea ?
[08:35] <Amaranth> solar_ant: Nope.
[08:35] <solar_ant> it shows me the rror
[08:35] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: you mean the !nvidia damnit why is ubotu not here package?  And have you tried the ones on nvidia's site?
[08:35] <Amaranth> solar_ant: I'm not on an ubuntu machine so I can't help.
[08:35] <solar_ant> even when  i click synaptic package manager
[08:35] <sinferno> no i havent tried those
[08:35] <solar_ant> oops
[08:35] <ksmurf> Amaranth  Oh OK.   Damn I wanted to free up the 20 Gb I have xp on.  Guess I'll have to keep it there for gaming (till I can figure out wine)
[08:36] <Amaranth> tiglionabbit: Are you trying to annoy me?
[08:36] <solar_ant> where do i download cc or gcc for ubuntu ?
[08:36] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, i downloaded glx in the package manager and i havent restarted yet, should i??
[08:36] <tiglionabbit> Amaranth: because I want my ubotu back, waaah
[08:36] <ksmurf> Amaranth  Guess the 530Gb I have for linux will have to do
[08:36] <Amaranth> solar_ant: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:36] <Amaranth> ksmurf: hehe :D
[08:36] <tiglionabbit> Amaranth: just got used to being able to stop hunting down urls all the time
[08:37] <Amaranth> tiglionabbit: 1) it's back and 2) you seem to be trying to get banned
[08:37] <tiglionabbit> !nvidia
[08:37] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:37] <solar_ant> solar is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[08:37] <tiglionabbit> yay
[08:37] <solar_ant> Amaranth,  solar is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[08:37] <stchatterbox> good afternoon
[08:37] <tiglionabbit> thank you, Amaranth.  You could ban me, but I'm just so helpful, ya know?  (=P okay not at the moment, but usually)
[08:37] <stchatterbox> may i know if untanbu can have dual booting?
[08:38] <tiglionabbit> stchatterbox: yes
[08:38] <Amaranth> stchatterbox: It can, as long as you installed windows first.
[08:38] <tiglionabbit> I'm doing that right now
[08:38] <Amaranth> solar_ant: Err, heh.
[08:38] <eternale1> hello , what package system does ubuntu use? apt-get?
[08:38] <Amaranth> solar_ant: There is your problem.
[08:38] <Amaranth> eternale1: Yep.
[08:38] <sinferno> ubotu, lmfao
[08:38] <ubotu> Wish i knew, sinferno
[08:38] <stchatterbox> i'm running window XP Sp2
[08:38] <bimberi> eternale1: yes
[08:38] <tiglionabbit> you should be able to install either in any order, but if you install things after Ubuntu you'll have to change some things in grub
[08:38] <stchatterbox> wish to know the instructions for that, mind to give me the URL to that?
[08:38] <eternale1> ok ty
[08:38] <stchatterbox> thanks
[08:38] <tiglionabbit> !dual
[08:38] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: I give up, what is it?
[08:38] <tiglionabbit> !dualboot
[08:38] <ubotu> hmm... dualboot is ""http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=38398 hm "", or "" !grub""
[08:39] <tiglionabbit> !grub
[08:39] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, grub is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto
[08:39] <Amaranth> tiglionabbit: Installing Windows last will make you have a Windows only machine that happens to have an ubuntu partition.
[08:39] <sinferno> charles@slacker:~$ sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[08:39] <sinferno> Password:
[08:39] <sinferno> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:39] <sinferno> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[08:39] <Amaranth> tiglionabbit: Unless you boot up in rescue mode from the install cd and fix the mbr.
[08:39] <bimberi> stchatterbox: wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[08:39] <twb_> whats the command for removing an application
[08:39] <Amaranth> sinferno: Close synaptic.
[08:40] <sinferno> oh thanks
[08:40] <sinferno> lol
[08:40] <tiglionabbit> Amaranth: exactly
[08:40] <sinferno> that was easy
[08:40] <Amaranth> tiglionabbit: Installing Windows then Ubuntu will automagically set everything up for you.
[08:40] <bimberi> twb_: apt-get remove <package>
[08:40] <stchatterbox> thanks a lot
[08:40] <stchatterbox> i'll try to read them
[08:41] <tiglionabbit> Amaranth: yes, but installing an OS is an expensive operation
[08:41] <tiglionabbit> Amaranth: things should work both ways, and they do
[08:41] <ksmurf> Amaranth  I just looked at the help file.... You can enable 3D.... Have u tried it?
[08:41] <jino> how to get grub after windows installation..
[08:41] <sinferno> what does pass mean in fstab
[08:41] <Amaranth> ksmurf: err
[08:41] <stchatterbox> and since i've installed some softwares in my D drive
[08:41] <stchatterbox> my system in C
[08:41] <Amaranth> ksmurf: Must be new in version 5.
[08:41] <stchatterbox> any problems?
[08:41] <twb_> and for running a program?
[08:41] <Amaranth> ksmurf: I doubt you can play anything released in the last 4 years.
[08:41] <ksmurf> Amaranth  It is <ksmurf used to be a warez junkie>
[08:42] <ksmurf> 128 megs can be allotted
[08:42] <jino> i have a 40 gb hdd and i need both xp and linux..so how should i set my partitions..
[08:42] <ksmurf> jino what do u need xp for?
[08:42] <cyphase> screw xp!
[08:42] <cyphase> ;)
[08:42] <tiglionabbit> ksmurf: cmon, let him
[08:42] <ksmurf> Games?
[08:43] <jino> nope
[08:43] <jino> photosho and stff
[08:43] <cyphase> lol
[08:43] <tiglionabbit> jino: if I were you, I'd install XP on a small fat32 partition, so linux can see it
[08:43] <cyphase> try Gimp
[08:43] <ksmurf> photoshop  ... try gimp
[08:43] <Amaranth> photoshop works in crossover office
[08:43] <NyChamp757> Hi everybody
[08:43] <IceDC571> photoshop works in wine
[08:43] <Amaranth> The GIMP is worthless compared to Photoshop
[08:43] <bimberi> twb_: depends on the program, sometimes a menu entry is created, sometimes from the command line
[08:43] <cyphase> or you could use Gimp
[08:43] <jino> tiglionabbit, how could i do it..
[08:43] <jino> how can linux see it
[08:43] <cyphase> Amaranth, not worthless
[08:43] <Amaranth> They aren't meant to do the same things.
[08:44] <ksmurf> Amaranth... I have Photoshop too....
[08:44] <songpenguin> sup NyChamp757
[08:44] <NyChamp757> hey
[08:44] <tiglionabbit> jino: see...  well, linux can read ntfs, but it can both read AND WRITE fat32
[08:44] <cyphase> i haven't used photoshop much, so i can't say which is truly better, but Gimp isn't worthless
[08:44] <jino> okie
[08:44] <jino> how do install and work in wine..
[08:44] <tiglionabbit> jino: set the sizes the way you want.   I'm asking to see how much room you need
[08:45] <Amaranth> tiglionabbit: If you knew why you would think that was a wonderful idea.
[08:45] <tiglionabbit> Amaranth: I know why, but I didn't know what sizes to anticipate.  My entire install is on 10gigs and it's happy
[08:45] <jino> ksmurf, i wanna watch dvds, and listen to usic as well
[08:45] <ksmurf> I have seperate /,/home,/etc ant /opt
[08:45] <jino> so which one will u suggest
[08:46] <Amaranth> tiglionabbit: You can switch distros, you can upgrade, you can reinstall and /home _never_ gets touched.
[08:46] <Amaranth> tiglionabbit: I set / to 10GB.
[08:46] <tiglionabbit> Amaranth: yeah I know.  But that wastes space in each partition...   When I start installing on HDs all over the place I'll start doing that
[08:46] <jino> ksmurf, okie
[08:47] <Amaranth> tiglionabbit: I guess once you get past 100GB of space it doesn't matter if you waste a couple gigs. :)
[08:47] <SpecialBuddy> IceDC571, how long does it take for wineinstall to finish
[08:47] <ksmurf> I wish I have 100 Gb (free)
[08:47] <ksmurf> rofl
[08:48] <twb_> i wish i could find my gtk-gnutella
[08:48] <IceDC571> IceDC571: about an 50 minutes on my 1.7ghz p4
[08:48] <SpecialBuddy> ha
[08:48] <SpecialBuddy> I have the same thing
[08:48] <Amaranth> ick, p4
[08:48] <IceDC571> are you serious? the old core version?
[08:48] <SpecialBuddy> not sure
[08:48] <jino> 256 mb
[08:48] <ksmurf> ouch..
[08:48] <Amaranth> my 1.2Ghz Duron probably does about as good as that thing
[08:49] <tiglionabbit> Amaranth: hehe, well this is just a laptop where I wiped out the default "D".  It's dual with Windows XP Tablet Edition, which isn't available as an install disc, only as a restore disc that must have its partition the exact size the manufacturer set
[08:49] <Amaranth> tiglionabbit: You bought a Compaq?
[08:49] <IceDC571> Amaranth: i have my AMD64 at my friend's house... i miss it
[08:49] <tiglionabbit> Amaranth: Acer
[08:49] <Amaranth> tiglionabbit: Oh, I thought only Compaq was retarded. I'll make a note.
[08:49] <Mystery> i'm still having problems with sound in ubuntu :(
[08:49] <SpecialBuddy> are the amd64 processors nice
[08:49] <Mystery> i need help
[08:49] <jino> am planning to buy an hp nx 6120 laptop, any suggestions..?
[08:50] <tiglionabbit> Amaranth: MS does not allow any manufacturer to give people tablet edition install discs
[08:50] <Amaranth> cyphase: breezy :)
[08:50] <SpecialBuddy> I would go to cyberpower and buy one of thier laptops jino
[08:50] <tiglionabbit> Amaranth: they do however format their windows partition to fat32, so uh, usable
[08:50] <ksmurf> K u want a swap drive.  Go for 10 Gb in windows and 30 to linux. I would (just me people) have /=19Gb and /home=10Gband 1Gb to s3wap.  My Xp would be in Fat32
[08:50] <cyphase> Amaranth, yea, i know :)
[08:50] <cyphase> lol
[08:51] <ksmurf> is that right people?
[08:51] <cyphase> do you know if breezy is going to have "smart folders" the way apple has with spotlight?
[08:51] <tiglionabbit> yeah.  Remind him to install windows first, in a partition the size it should be
[08:51] <tiglionabbit> though you can resize it later anyway
[08:52] <ksmurf> jino I'm a noob...   Many windows programs are quite heavy, and he'll need places for it to store things because windows can't see his /home
[08:52] <jino> so am planning to delete two partiotions and install linux
[08:53] <tiglionabbit> jino: don't delete it
[08:53] <jino> then?
[08:53] <tiglionabbit> jino: just use the ubuntu CD to resize the partition
[08:53] <ksmurf> oh... It's preformatted and backuped... that changes everything
[08:53] <nellie_> hello
[08:53] <jino> tiglionabbit, how can i do that
[08:53] <ksmurf> jino forget what I said.... Do you have room for another drive?
[08:53] <jino> how will i set the spave for / and home and swap
[08:54] <ksmurf> or money
[08:54] <nellie_> can someone tell me how i can install *.deb files?
[08:54] <Mystery> anyone? help? please?
[08:54] <jino> i dont think so
[08:54] <tiglionabbit> jino: boot from the cd, and at the partitioning phase, press enter on your windows partition, and then press enter on the "size" indicator
[08:54] <budluva> nellie_, dpkg -i blah.deb
[08:54] <Amaranth> nellie_: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[08:54] <twb_> why is gnutella so slow
[08:54] <twb_> gtk
[08:54] <nellie_> thanks
[08:54] <tiglionabbit> twb_: cuz it iz, whatchoo expect.  Find a file that has a little arrow next to it, that will indicate multiple sources are available
[08:55] <ksmurf> will that not nuke his win partition... I had trouble with an uncoropertive emachine
[08:55] <woodwizzle> is it possible to create PDF files under linux?
[08:55] <Mystery> gah, i've looked everywhere for a solution
[08:55] <woodwizzle> preferable via the gimp?
[08:55] <Mystery> there's no help on the net
[08:55] <ksmurf> Wood YEs
[08:55] <tiglionabbit> ksmurf: no, I don't think it will.  I've resized ntfs partitions for people before
[08:55] <SpecialBuddy> IceDC571, what do I do after wineinstall is done
[08:55] <Mystery> can someone help me solve this damn problem???
[08:55] <tiglionabbit> Mystery: which?
[08:55] <Wiser> damn that's a lot of people in the channel
[08:55] <nellie_> damn "nerolinux_<IP_ADDRESS>-7_i386.deb' is not a debian format archive"
[08:55] <woodwizzle> ksmurf, can you gimme a nudge in the right direction, I havn't been able to find anything useful via google
[08:56] <ksmurf> Wood np Just a sec
[08:56] <Mystery> tiglionabbit: sound! i don't have sound and ALSA comes with an error when it starts up saying "Invalid card number"
[08:56] <bimberi> nellie_: bad download perhaps?
[08:56] <Mystery> i looked on the net
[08:56] <Mystery> nothing
[08:56] <tiglionabbit> Mystery: damn..  is there an ubuntu wiki about soundcard support?
[08:56] <nellie_> bimberi, like i know, maybe i'll try again :)
[08:56] <Mystery> i looked everywhere >_>
[08:56] <Mystery> i mean everywhere
[08:57] <tiglionabbit> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards?highlight=%28sound%29
[08:57] <bimberi> nellie_: see if you can check it against an md5sum
[08:57] <jino> tiglionabbit, thank you
[08:57] <ksmurf> Wood openOfice prints to PDF
[08:57] <SpecialBuddy> IceDC571, what do I do after wineinstall is done
[08:57] <ksmurf> Is that what u mean?
[08:57] <jino> tiglionabbit, how do iet my swap space
[08:57] <tiglionabbit> iet?
[08:57] <jino> and spaces for / and home
[08:58] <ksmurf> jino.  Tiglionrabbit says you can resize your parts
[08:58] <Amaranth> Mystery: Perhaps https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary can help.
[08:58] <nellie_> bimberi, no i can't, but if i doubleclict the file, it opens it with some other program
[08:58] <jino> ksmurf, okie
[08:58] <woodwizzle> ksmurf... hmm, I'll give that a try then. Not exactly what I was hoping for but it may do the trick
[08:58] <tiglionabbit> jino: it should be pretty explanatory once you're in the partitioning stage.  Just resize the windows partition, and it should show a "20gb empty space" entry in there.  Select that, and add partitions into it.  Set the format of one of them to "swap", and the linux ones to "ext3"
[08:59] <ksmurf> wood Hope I helped
[09:00] <Mystery> Amaranth: i'll try that link but i think i've tried just about everything by now..
[09:00] <Mystery> ...i hope it works
[09:00] <jino> tiglionabbit, thanx
[09:01] <tiglionabbit> jino: good luck with your install.  Once you're in, come in here and party
[09:01] <jino> tiglionabbit, yo
[09:01] <tiglionabbit> ya?
[09:01] <jino> tiglionabbit, yup
[09:01] <jino> tiglionabbit, will that auto detect mty ac97 sound card
[09:02] <jino> do i need to set some thing extra
[09:02] <tiglionabbit> jino: lemme check the compatibilities
[09:02] <SpecialBuddy> IceDC571,
[09:02] <jino> okie
[09:02] <tiglionabbit> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsSoundCards  <- it here?
[09:04] <tiglionabbit> jino: ^
[09:04] <ksmurf> I'm going through the painful process of installing SP2.... why I don't know
[09:05] <tiglionabbit> ksmurf: so internet explorer will no longer install harmful activeX controls?
[09:06] <jino> tiglionabbit, i dindnt get u
[09:06] <nellie_> hey anyone? what's wrong when i get "`nerolinux_<IP_ADDRESS>-7_i386.deb' is not a debian format archive", and file appears to open if i double click it?
[09:06] <hodgman> does anyone know of an app that will capture a specified region on my desktop and will allow me to send that to a streaming server ?
[09:06] <ksmurf> Don't do it nellie
[09:06] <ksmurf> lol
[09:06] <twb_> why am i not able to connect to eMule?
[09:06] <woodwizzle> ksmurf, that actually worked out pretty good. Thanks! =)
[09:06] <twb_> nvm, got it
[09:07] <tiglionabbit> jino: I said, is your sound card listed on that site?
[09:07] <ksmurf> np wood.  I'm a noob at linux but I know my puters
[09:07] <SpecialBuddy> how would I get my console to look like this again user@ubuntu:~/wine-20050628$
[09:07] <tiglionabbit> SpecialBuddy: change the variable PS1
[09:07] <hyphenated> SpecialBuddy: set PS1 properly
[09:08] <Mystery> tiglionabbit: well i might try installing a new alsa driver
[09:08] <SpecialBuddy> well it looked like that but I changed users but I want it to look like that again
[09:08] <Mystery> but i'm not sure how to go about doing it?
[09:08] <jino> no idea
[09:08] <Mystery> i'm downloading the latest driver now
[09:09] <jino> tiglionabbit, lemme check
[09:09] <ksmurf> Anyone try the beta Oo2?
[09:09] <harold_> Anyone seen this: My terminal display, since the Ubuntu installation, is divided into multiple parts, and flickers.
[09:09] <SpecialBuddy> not sure what PS1 is
[09:09] <tiglionabbit> Mystery: just look around the wiki for things related to your hardware, search it for "sound" and such
[09:09] <jtan325_> SpecialBuddy, you have to edit you .bashrc file
[09:09] <tiglionabbit> SpecialBuddy: PS1 is a shell variable.  You set it by saying PS1="blah blah" or whatever you want
[09:09] <jtan325_> SpecialBuddy, in ubuntu you probably already have a deafult PS1 set
[09:09] <ksmurf> harold Your vert or hort sync is wrong
[09:09] <Mystery> tiglionabbit:  i have
[09:09] <tiglionabbit> SpecialBuddy: it is usually set when bash starts, via the .bashrc file
[09:09] <Mystery> it's just not there
[09:10] <SpecialBuddy> oh
[09:10] <Mystery> i don't think this sound card is even suppost to exist o.O
[09:10] <jtan325_> make sure you put your PS1 after that line(s), or comment out the previous PS1
[09:10] <harold_> ksmurf: Thank you.  Do you know how to fix this?
[09:10] <tiglionabbit> Mystery: what's it called?
[09:10] <cafuego> SpecialBuddy: set PS1 to "\u@\h:\w$ "
[09:10] <Mystery> it's an ectiva 5.1
[09:10] <Mystery> creative ectiva
[09:10] <ksmurf> what is the command to config xorg.... is it dpkg xorg?
[09:10] <jino> tiglionabbit, bye
[09:11] <memoryleak> i have problems to power off my lap-top (Hoary). i added "nolapic" to the menu.lst, but it doesn't turn off after message "Power Down". Can anyone help?
[09:11] <harold_> ksmurf...I'm using Warty, so I believe it's xserver-xfree86
[09:11] <ksmurf> What is that horizontal and vertical sync of you moniter?
[09:11] <jtan325_> ksmurf, the actual xorg.conf should be in /etc/X11R6/xorg.conf
[09:12] <jtan325_> scratch that, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:12] <ksmurf> harold... warty I have no Idea about but what u need to do is find out the vert and horz sync and reconfigure xfree86
[09:13] <harold_> ksmurf: Thanks
[09:13] <ksmurf> np
[09:13] <tiglionabbit> ksmurf: can't he just press the buttons on his monitor to display them, or look up the model on the internet?
[09:13] <ksmurf> jtan....I see that file so much I dream about it ... rofdl
[09:13] <harold_> tiglionabbit: I'm using a PowerBook G3
[09:14] <ksmurf> tig.... yes but not on lcd's or old moniters
[09:14] <tiglionabbit> harold_: hm, lcd.  Is there a manual?
[09:14] <tiglionabbit> m
[09:14] <tiglionabbit> x doesn't detect it right?
[09:14] <tiglionabbit> !resolution
[09:14] <ksmurf> xfree86
[09:14] <ubotu> I heard resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:14] <harold_> tiglionabbit: No manual (it's a PowerBook).  Right, X won't run.
[09:14] <tiglionabbit> wont run at all now?
[09:14] <tiglionabbit> !x
[09:14] <harold_> Hasn't ever run.
[09:14] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:15] <harold_> Just completed install last night.
[09:15] <tiglionabbit> well darn
[09:15] <ksmurf> a powerbook.....
[09:15] <ksmurf> hmmm.  Laptops are funky
[09:15] <harold_> I'll check the wiki; thanks guys/gals
[09:15] <ksmurf> Powerbook is apple right
[09:15] <ukato> hm, has anyone here ran steam from wine before
[09:15] <ksmurf> ?
[09:15] <harold_> ksmurf: yes
[09:15] <sinferno> what does pass mean in fstab
[09:16] <ksmurf> harold pm me
[09:16] <harold_> ksmurf: Okay
[09:16] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: man fstab, and type /pass, then use n to jump between em
[09:17] <ksmurf> ukato I have heard of it but I personally have not
[09:17] <jtan325_> sinferno, it means whether or not to check the filesystem when you boot
[09:17] <harold_> ksmurf: How do i private message?]
[09:18] <sinferno> jtan325, check it for what? errors?
[09:18] <harold_> not familiar with IRc
[09:18] <ksmurf> Amaranth u still here?
[09:18] <SpecialBuddy> IceDC571,
[09:18] <Amaranth> ksmurf: Yeah
[09:18] <ukato> ksmurf, i see. i just got it working, but it won't boot, and i think my video card has to have Open GL enabled
[09:18] <ukato> but anyway
[09:18] <tiglionabbit> harold_: /msg username blah blah blah
[09:19] <twb_> this may be a stupid question, but after you download a song on eMule, how do you play them?
[09:20] <tiglionabbit> twb_: use one of linux's many media players
[09:20] <tiglionabbit> twb_: some you have installed may be listed under applications -> sound & video
[09:21] <ukato> how would i enable openGL
[09:21] <ukato> ?
[09:21] <tiglionabbit> enable...
[09:21] <twb_> that aren't downloaded to a specific file are they?
[09:21] <jtan325_> install nvidia driver?
[09:21] <tiglionabbit> twb_: wha?
[09:21] <Mez> ukato - try running the command glxgears and see if it works... mine did by default
[09:22] <twb_> the songs, are they sent to a specific file after downloa
[09:22] <ukato> mez, if it displays, it's running?
[09:22] <sladen> ukato: it should "just work"
[09:22] <sladen> ukato: what card do you have?
[09:22] <tiglionabbit> twb_: yes, your download directory, it should be set somewhere in the program you're downloading with.
[09:22] <Mez> if it displays and dosnt look jerky, it's running
[09:22] <johntramp> hey how in apt can I see how big a downlaod will be without downloading anything?
[09:22] <johntramp> like emerge -p in gentoo
[09:22] <ukato> ATI rage 128 pro
[09:22] <ukato> cutting edge, i am
[09:23] <sladen> johntramp: apt-get install ...    and then press Ctrl-C
[09:23] <tiglionabbit> johntramp: I'm not sure, but in synaptic you can right-click on it and select properties
[09:23] <johntramp> oh
[09:23] <Mez> johntramp, use the -s option to simulate ;)
[09:23] <tiglionabbit> johntramp: yes, apt-get should give you a yes/no prompt before it actually installs
[09:23] <johntramp> so there isnt a separate command
[09:23] <johntramp> ok thanks Mez
[09:23] <johntramp> tiglionabbit, sometimes it doesnt
[09:23] <prego> hello.  I plan to put a nvidia card and I have the choice of pci-express instead of AGP. I would use Nvidia's drivers.
[09:29] <Mez> s0n1cm0nk3y_, not tried any others for a while
[09:29] <Mez> and prego http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/
[09:29] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> mez what doy ou mean?
[09:29] <Mez> s0n1cm0nk3y_, I've no idea about alsa configuration, I havent had to do it for ages
[09:30] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> ah, i know its partly retarded, but does everyone in here use ubuntu, or do some of you also use gentoo
[09:31] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> thats the second os im questioning, for my main pc
[09:31] <Mez> some of us use other OSes as well, just not me :D
[09:31] <pallav> i want to setup an ftp server how can i do that?? what do i need to do??
[09:32] <memoryleak> pallav: start synaptics, klick to search button and search for "ftp server" in name and package description
[09:32] <pallav> then?
[09:32] <harold_> Night, everyone
[09:32] <tiglionabbit> pallav: then install it and have fun times
[09:32] <tiglionabbit> hehe
[09:33] <pallav> install which one??
[09:33] <ksmurf> what is the difference between apptitude and apt?
[09:33] <harold_> Goodnight, until another day of installation fun!
[09:33] <prego> Mez, I might use legacy mode at bios for sata disk if I have trouble, I guess...
[09:33] <memoryleak> your favourite one
[09:33] <FlannelKing> aptitude uses apt, its just a frontend
[09:33] <tiglionabbit> ksmurf: apt is a protocol, aptitude is a frontend for it
[09:33] <prego> Mez, btw nice link :-))
[09:33] <Mez> prego :D I think it might have been fixed in upstream and work in breezy - but doesnt work in debian - not too sure
[09:34] <prego> Mez what is "upstream" some kind of enhanced hoary?
[09:34] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> um side question, anybody know what release ubuntu is on, is this the 4 release or something further?
[09:34] <memoryleak> pallav: you should first get more info about the ftp server you want, before you install it
[09:34] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> ubuntu 5.04 i mean
[09:34] <pallav> k
[09:34] <FlannelKing> s0n1cm0nk3y_, what do you mean?
[09:34] <Mez> prego... upstream is the upstream packages... we take programs and package them, upstream is the people who write te programs we package
[09:35] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> flannelking how many releases of ubuntu have been released, just curiousity
[09:35] <prego> Mez, how do I use upstream for a new installation that probably might have problems with current hoary install disk?
[09:36] <FlannelKing> Warty, and Hoary.  Its only been around for a little over a year.
[09:36] <pallav> is there a  simple gui ftp sevrer program you guys know of??
[09:36] <johntramp> gftp
[09:36] <johntramp> oh server
[09:36] <memoryleak> johntramp: server
[09:36] <Mez> prego ... using upstream means compiling things from sratch
[09:36] <johntramp> I use pureftpd but there is no gui
[09:36] <tiglionabbit> say, why is ubuntu on version 5 already?  What were versions 1-3?
[09:37] <prego> Mez, oops. Thanks.
[09:37] <johntramp> there might be something in webmin to make it gui'ish
[09:37] <memoryleak> i never heard about a ftp server with gui for linux
[09:37] <Mez> prego - and I'd suggest LFS or gentoo if you want to compile everything
[09:37] <pallav> he he he
[09:37] <pallav> ok
[09:37] <prego> tiglionabbit, versioning numbers mean year/month
[09:37] <prego> Mez, I have not so much free time...
[09:37] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> tiglionabbit version 5, if you mean the version number it means its 2005  5 for the year
[09:37] <tiglionabbit> prego: oh, so there are 4 years of development we didn't know of?
[09:38] <prego> tiglionabbit, I don't know you, but I am in 2005
[09:38] <tiglionabbit> s0n1cm0nk3y_: ooooh, so it has nothing to do with the actual work at all?
[09:38] <memoryleak> pallav: if you install proftpd, there is a Webmin module that you can use for server configuration
[09:38] <Mez> tiglionabbit, 5=year 04 = month
[09:38] <Mez> 5 = 20054
[09:38] <tiglionabbit> ok
[09:38] <Mez> 5 = 2005 *
[09:38] <Mez> 04 = april
[09:38] <tiglionabbit> ok I got it the first time
[09:38] <Mez> ;)
[09:38] <tiglionabbit> sheesh
[09:38] <pallav> thanks
[09:38] <stisev> good fucking lord
[09:38] <pallav> :)
[09:38] <Mez> stisev - watch your language
[09:38] <stisev> Sorry
[09:39] <stisev> but I'm VERY pissed off right now
[09:39] <tiglionabbit> I just expected version numbers to have to do with significant improvements
[09:39] <stisev> for the love of my sanity anyone know anything about VMWare (linux)
[09:39] <Mez> sisev, well that doesnt mean you can waive the CoC
[09:39] <stisev> CoC?
[09:39] <stisev> ??
[09:39] <Mez> stisev - #vmware
[09:39] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> tiglionabbit nope its october 2005, thats why i was curious to how many releases have been out yet, and wondering if anybody here knew
[09:39] <stisev> Mez: I tried... I tried 50 times. No one responds there, not even 24 hours later
[09:39] <Amaranth> breezy will be the third release
[09:39] <tiglionabbit> does that mean every version of ubuntu is going to be .04 .10 .04 .10 over and over?
[09:39] <stisev> :(
[09:39] <FlannelKing> 5.10 (every six months)
[09:40] <FlannelKing> yes tiglionabbit
[09:40] <Mez> stisev: CoC: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/community/conduct
[09:40] <stisev> ah
[09:40] <stisev> k
[09:40] <tiglionabbit> that sounds kind of stupid, but whatever
[09:40] <stisev> I just can't get VMware to work.
[09:40] <ksmurf> stisev what do u need in vmware
[09:40] <tiglionabbit> ubuntu 1000.4, Amaranth
[09:40] <stisev> ksmurf I'm trying to get VMware tools setup on my linux box
[09:40] <stisev> ksmurf: please go here
[09:40] <stisev> http://episteme.arstechnica.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/96509133/m/415005814731
[09:41] <stisev> It has a full explanation of my problem with followup and a screenshot of the error
[09:41] <Amaranth> Mez: I guess it's a champagne problem.
[09:41] <Mez> Champagne?
[09:41] <Mez> oh
[09:42] <Amaranth> If we run into this problem we need to be popping the corks off some champagne and celebrating.
[09:42] <Mez> champagne... the WD drives
[09:42] <ksmurf> ok
[09:42] <ksmurf> ok?
[09:42] <Amaranth> I meant the year 3000 thing
[09:42] <Mez> oh, ah I get it noe :D
[09:42] <stisev> ack
[09:43] <stisev> sorry, did anyone say anything? my client crashed
 ack
[09:43] <memoryleak> * sinferno has quit IRC ("Leaving")
 sorry, did an...
[09:43] <memoryleak> :)
[09:44] <zeenix> hi
[09:45] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> tiglionabbit, possibly, unless they are late or early, or take a break or vacation
[09:45] <stisev> ?
[09:45] <inemo> nalioth: all ready for when virus/F/sexy comes back? :p
[09:45] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> anybody else here having some troubles with ubuntu repositories, i usually have troubles with things like flux, also ive had troubles getting rhythm box to work in xfce, any ideas why that happens, i get something like cant read this stream
[09:46] <tiglionabbit> !repositories
[09:46] <ubotu> well, repositories is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:46] <Arnia> I wonder if I can achieve something akin to an immersion environment for language learning if I write my code using Latin for the identifiers and comments.
[09:46] <tiglionabbit> s0n1cm0nk3y_: the fluxbox on the repos is really old
[09:46] <Arnia> I think I may drive everyone else mad though
[09:46] <tiglionabbit> !scim
[09:46] <ubotu> I heard scim is Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Language input. http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[09:47] <Jesse1> whats a good website editor for ubuntu?
[09:47] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> ah, is that why nothing shows up in the right click menu?
[09:47] <tiglionabbit> Jesse1: there's screem
[09:47] <inemo> I have an iBook running ubuntu with a 2MB/s internet connection and 1.4GB HD space.  Any idea's as to what I could do with it?  I already have a website, ftp, irc bot running off my iMac and I don't really know what to use the iBook for.  So any ideas would be appreciated. :)
[09:47] <FlannelKing> Arachnophilia, if you have java
[09:47] <Nermal> inemo, a digital photo frame
[09:47] <tiglionabbit> Arnia: I believe you should be able to add keyboards for different language layouts
[09:48] <Nermal> with things like mythtv for weather, etc
[09:48] <Jesse1> tiglionabbit, ill have a look at that
[09:48] <tiglionabbit> Arnia: to system -> prefs -> keyboard
[09:48] <inemo> Nermal: hmm, could I just run mythtv for weather fullscreen anyway?
[09:48] <Jesse1> :( i capped my download limit
[09:48] <Nermal> also attach a cctv camera and run motion on it, along with a bluetooth usb dongle. run hci tool ever minute, and if your phone is out of reach, turn the camera on and watch for motion as security
[09:48] <Nermal> inemo, yah
[09:48] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> inemo, lol if you dont want it...... : ), but you could use it for admin purposes on your network, checking security?
[09:48] <inemo> Nermal: haha, got that already ;)
[09:49] <Nermal> :)
[09:49] <inemo> s0n1cm0nk3y_: nice try :p and my powerbook is tooled up for security..
[09:49] <Arnia> tiglionabbit: I can use my en-GB layout for writing Latin ;)
[09:49] <slacker> ok i just updated my nvidia drivers, i was JUST running glxgears a second ago and now when i try to run it i get Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[09:49] <slacker> glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.
[09:50] <inemo> Nermal: think i'll go the route of installing mythtv for constant weather updates on that screen :)
[09:50] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> inemo lol, you cant blame me, powerbooks are nice systems, so what are you running for the security? ive tried knoppix std, but it became a pain in the arse after a bit
[09:51] <cjnodell> Hello
[09:52] <Poromies> ok, this a silly question, but what are the fast-keys for XMMS's "search"?
[09:52] <cjnodell> I have a question about ndiswrapper
[09:52] <Arnia> KarlosII: Peter Panda vs Bertie Badger -- the great showdown
[09:52] <inemo> don't really need that much security on it imo, just a small home network of 4 machines, wired and wireless, including a wireless bridge to my room network. everything is passworded and protected, I run OS X.4.1 on the powerbook, X.4.1 on mothers iMac, 10.4.1 server on my iMac, and now hoary on the iBook
[09:52] <KarlosII> :)
[09:53] <cjnodell> can anybody help me out?
[09:54] <cjnodell> ...
[09:54] <sinferno> i think its late
[09:54] <sinferno> everyone is afk and whatnot
[09:55] <cjnodell> ah, got it.
[09:55] <cjnodell> Time zone throw me off a bit
[09:55] <tiglionabbit> !ndiswrapper
[09:55] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: I don't know
[09:56] <tiglionabbit> darn
[09:56] <FlannelKing> whats your question cjnodell?
[09:56] <sinferno> does anyone know
[09:56] <sinferno> what that wikipedia site is
[09:56] <inemo> ubotu: am I still smoking crack?
[09:56] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, inemo
[09:56] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> inemo, wow theres alot of mac love in your family, i envy you, my dads still stuck on windows, and im having to do the usual maintenance such as virus scans in the bg
[09:56] <sinferno> glxgears: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual.
[09:57] <sinferno> i was running glxgears right before i installed the nvidia drivers from the package thing
[09:57] <mischa> hi there: i have a serious problem with our :) ubuntu hoary version on my dell inspirion 9300. sometimes it freezes about 5 mins after bootup. i can't find a thing in the syslog about a crash...what can i do...?
[09:57] <inemo> s0n1cm0nk3y_: always been mac users, I started to learn to use a computer by hanging onto the coffee table and waggling the Apple ] [ joystick around aged 1ish...
[09:58] <sinferno> lol nvidia-setting is a joke
[09:58] <tiglionabbit> hey guys.  My parents are completely averse to learning ANYTHING, like a button that looks slightly different from windows is a HUGE PAIN to them for some reason.  They are completely deathly afraid windows will blow up their computers at any second.  What should I do?
[09:58] <inemo> brainwash them
[09:58] <sinferno> get a piece of masking tape
[09:58] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> lol, i started off on a old unix machine my buddy in the military gave me, learned the way around the cmd prompt that way, now ive moved into linux, and it appears a few years of windows has dumbed me, all the way from 3.1 to xp pro
[09:58] <sinferno> and write start on it
[09:58] <zeenix> hi again
[09:58] <Arnia> Nuclear war... it solves everything
[09:58] <FlannelKing> put pastic explosives on their monitor?
[09:58] <tiglionabbit> FlannelKing: I don't think they'd like that
[09:59] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> oh btw that was addressed to inemo
[09:59] <zeenix> did any of the message make it on the channel (except for 'hi') ?
[09:59] <FlannelKing> Well, they expect it to explode...
[09:59] <zeenix> s/message/messages/
[09:59] <inemo> s0n1cm0nk3y_: i've got about 10/12 macs in the family, about 8/9 of them are mine :D, I started messing around with the cmd line when I got OS X
[09:59] <inemo> nalioth: nalioths_dog is a bot right?
[09:59] <sinferno> whats the difference between removal and complete removal on spm
[10:00] <FlannelKing> complete removes config as well
[10:00] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> 10/12, 8/9 yours, um ... you want a new friend heheh ^^. and any of those a mac mini, ive been wondering how those things run, w/ and w/o linux
[10:00] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> and i dont mean yellow dog, yuck
[10:00] <FlannelKing> that way you can reinstall something (with just remove), you can also go back later and remove the config
[10:00] <sinferno> if im going to install nvidia drivers from thier site should i uninstall the ones in spm
[10:01] <osiris> Does anyone know which file to edit after installing the nforce audio drivers?
[10:02] <zeenix> i installed ubuntu on this newly bought notebook of mine yesterday and all was working good but this monring when i booted, it gave me a kernel panic
[10:02] <zeenix> i rebooted many times but it didnt help, so i tried something very stupid: re-install grub
[10:02] <sladen> ukato: glxinfo | grep direct    will tell you
[10:02] <zeenix> but the grub didn't install successfully and now even the grub doesn't load successfully
[10:03] <FlannelKing> if nothing else, reinstall ubuntu
[10:03] <sladen> zeenix: what does the panic say?  Is it a panic, or can it just not find the root partition?
[10:03] <sinferno> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:03] <sinferno> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:03] <sinferno> Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:03] <sinferno> Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual
[10:03] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> zeenix, i can help a lil, i just learned how the whole grub number scheme goes ^^ (slightly proud of self*
[10:03] <sladen> zeenix: if it's a new laptop and you only installed yesterday;  it'll only take you 15minutes and you won't loose any work if you reinstall
[10:03] <sinferno> what od i doooooooo
[10:03] <zeenix> sladen, it was something regarding the serial port interrupts
[10:04] <zeenix> s0n1cm0nk3y_, cool, let me paste the problem i am having now
[10:06] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> zeenix, lol, i dont know how much i can help, i just learned the numbering scheme so far for the install on my gentoo box, hehe, im not sure at my abilities to help you but i will try
[10:06] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> inemo, so besides your madre who else is running mac?
[10:06] <znh> morning
[10:07] <znh> hm.. I'm trying to play a .asx file, xmms doens't seems to support it, anyone known with player that does?
[10:07] <sinferno> when i try to do nvidia-glx-config enable it tell me to change nv to nvidia, i did that and nothing happened
[10:07] <sinferno> same error
[10:08] <tiglionabbit> znh: dunno.  That's a streaming file, isn't it?
[10:08] <znh> tiglionabbit: yea
[10:08] <znh> i'll see what's in the file
[10:08] <tiglionabbit> same problems here...
[10:08] <FlannelKing> asx is windows media, I believe
[10:09] <znh> FlannelKing: that's right
[10:09] <tiglionabbit> it's windows media streaming, so it doesn't contain the actual audio, just info on how to connect to it I believe
[10:09] <FlannelKing> yep, just like ram
[10:09] <znh> tiglionabbit: your right, just open the file and you can pick the url
[10:09] <tiglionabbit> znh: oh really?  coolies
[10:09] <sinferno> whats the ubuntu wikepeidia site
[10:09] <znh> \o/
[10:10] <FlannelKing> wikipedia site? or the ubuntuwiki?
[10:10] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> znh, for streaming win32 codecs, which im pretty sure .asx (could be wrong) i havent found much of a way to get past that, though i have heard of mplayer doing good with different kinds of streams
[10:10] <cyphase> http://www.ubuntu.com/wiki
[10:10] <sinferno> thanks
[10:10] <znh> s0n1cm0nk3y_: i'll try the w32codecs
[10:10] <tiglionabbit> znh: didn't work for me
[10:10] <znh> tiglionabbit: same for me, I get the message they are already installed
[10:10] <cyphase> or just wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:11] <cyphase> lol
[10:11] <tiglionabbit> that'll get you wmp, but no streaming
[10:11] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> znh, not sure if those will work though, cause i already have the win32codecs in, but im still dealing with troubles in streams, such as quicktime and wmv streaming from skateboarding sites
[10:11] <znh> s0n1cm0nk3y_: I'll try mplayer
[10:11] <FlannelKing> avifile can play them
[10:12] <tiglionabbit> FlannelKing: what's that?
[10:12] <tiglionabbit> say, I wonder if streamtuner could play em
[10:13] <IceDC571> tiglionabbit: what are you trying to play?
[10:13] <FlannelKing> I dont know, well, its a media player, but it showed up when I googled, it appears mplayer can play it too
[10:13] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> znh good luck, may the horse be with you
[10:13] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: we're talking about .asx
[10:13] <tiglionabbit> I don't have any .asx handy to test it though
[10:13] <znh> s0n1cm0nk3y_: heh, thanks :)
[10:13] <tiglionabbit> could someone give me one to try this out?  heh
[10:13] <IceDC571> heh.. good luck with asx, it belongs to M$
[10:13] <tiglionabbit> we know
[10:13] <golgor> can anyone tell me where packages install themself? :P
[10:13] <znh> tiglionabbit: i'll try the asx with streamtuner
[10:14] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> tiglionabbit, lol, i dont but my step bros hdd that has some ......adult streams in .asx, does. lol
[10:14] <tiglionabbit> golgor: right-click on em in synaptic, go to properties
[10:14] <FlannelKing> golgor, synaptec can
[10:14] <tiglionabbit> golgor: or use dpkg -L
[10:14] <golgor> yea, but i used apt-get
[10:14] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> tiglionabbit, and no i am not willing to test, that guy is disturbingly secure when it comes to his files
[10:14] <golgor> are they still in synpatic?
[10:14] <tiglionabbit> golgor: yes, but you can just dpkg -L thepackage instead
[10:15] <FlannelKing> yes, apt and synaptec are linked, but you can use dpkg if you prefer the CLI
[10:15] <golgor> great
[10:15] <golgor> thanks
[10:16] <IceDC571> what does the a stand for in aMSN and aMule?
[10:16] <tiglionabbit> "all platforms"?
[10:16] <IceDC571> alternative?
[10:17] <FlannelKing> all platform
[10:17] <IceDC571> ohh
[10:17] <znh> tiglionabbit: streamtuner is just a front-end to xmms
[10:17] <tiglionabbit> znh: yeah but it will probably be able to extract the url to feed to xmms
[10:17] <tiglionabbit> znh: and it can be a frontend to anything, set your preferences
[10:17] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> tiglionabbit how about vlc, doesnt it have streaming possibilities?
[10:18] <tiglionabbit> s0n1cm0nk3y_: I don't know.  Give me an .asx to try it out =P
[10:18] <golgor> anyone familiar with wine?
[10:18] <FlannelKing> Actually, All Platform is just for aMule, aMSN is apparently for "Alvaros Messenger" or "Another MSN"
[10:18] <IceDC571> solution.. wine windows media player lol
[10:18] <znh> tiglionabbit: this may be interesting http://www.linuxsa.org.au/pipermail/linuxsa/2004-May/069467.html
[10:18] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: no.
[10:19] <IceDC571> FlannelKing: do you use aMSN?
[10:19] <FlannelKing> Nope, but thats what the home page said, google is my friend :)
[10:19] <tiglionabbit> znh: can't connect to that link
[10:19] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> um let me check the wonderfull google tiglionabbit
[10:20] <znh> tiglionabbit: works for me, but it's in australian so there's much between u :P
[10:20] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> just to make sure, you got w32codecs installed right tiglionabbit?
[10:20] <golgor> anyone familiar with wine?
[10:20] <tiglionabbit> oh neato!
[10:20] <rekr> got an install problem
[10:20] <tiglionabbit> my mplayer mozilla plugin is playing the asx just fine
[10:21] <IceDC571> golgor: i am
[10:21] <znh> hehe my bird is making noise at my shoulder AAAH!
[10:21] <tiglionabbit> wonderfully in fact
[10:21] <tiglionabbit> I'm amazed
[10:21] <znh> tiglionabbit: where did you get that plugin?
[10:21] <IceDC571> what are you watching? hmm..
[10:21] <tiglionabbit> znh: synaptic
[10:21] <golgor> IceDC571, can you tell me where the main directory is?
[10:21] <tiglionabbit> mozilla-mplayer I believe
[10:22] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: just something I found by googling "filetype:asx windows"
[10:22] <rekr> I have windows installed on a SATA raptor on the primary partition, I have 5 gigs partitioned off for an ubuntu install, the install goes fine GRUB sees my WIndows install I tell it to install GRUB then when I reboot it still goes straight to the windows bnoot menu no GRUB
[10:22] <znh> tiglionabbit: and then?
[10:22] <rekr> I get no errors during install
[10:22] <tiglionabbit> znh: then what?
[10:22] <IceDC571> golgor: um.. i'll have to search for it hang on, what seems to be the problem?
[10:22] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> or for that fact how did you get mplayer running, its never stable for me, or for some of the my friends who use ubuntu
[10:22] <znh> tiglionabbit: I got synaptic loaded, but what's it called?
[10:22] <tiglionabbit> it's called mozilla-mplayer
[10:23] <znh> tiglionabbit: sweet!
[10:23] <tiglionabbit> it plug-ins firefox automagically
[10:23] <znh> tiglionabbit: it cries about mplayer
[10:23] <tiglionabbit> znh: then get mplayer-586
[10:23] <internat> ok stupid questoin, what do i need to do to turn the standard ubuntu into using kde instead of gnome?
[10:23] <golgor> query IceDC571
[10:23] <tiglionabbit> or whatever is right for your build
[10:23] <tiglionabbit> I mean architecture
[10:24] <tiglionabbit> internat: install kubuntu-desktop
[10:24] <internat> how much does it change?
[10:24] <tiglionabbit> internat: and then when you login next time, click on sessions, and select kde
[10:24] <internat> cause frigs me why sound isnt working with the kubuntu install cds
[10:24] <tiglionabbit> internat: it just adds a lot of programs
[10:24] <ubuntu_> hello
[10:24] <znh> tiglionabbit: the following packages have unmet dependecies
[10:24] <tiglionabbit> znh: add a backports mirror
[10:24] <tiglionabbit> !backports
[10:24] <ubotu> somebody said backports was http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[10:25] <znh> http://backports.ubuntuforums.org/
[10:25] <ubuntu_> i have an interesting problem
[10:25] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> somebody need backports, I GOT EM ^^
[10:25] <tiglionabbit> ubuntu_: what is it?
[10:25] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> if you want i can give yout he url for em
[10:25] <ubuntu_> right now, i am on my desktop using live ubuntu
[10:25] <tiglionabbit> ya and?
[10:25] <ubuntu_> however it doesnt boot on my notebook
[10:25] <ubuntu_> i mean the very same cd
[10:25] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[10:25] <Evil> hello all
[10:26] <ubuntu_> every setting is okey
[10:26] <tiglionabbit> ubuntu_: is your notebook the same architecture as your desktop?
[10:26] <ubuntu_> the booting sequence starts from cd
[10:26] <LinuxRoc> Good Eve everyone
[10:26] <rekr> I have windows installed on a SATA raptor on the primary partition, I have 5 gigs partitioned off for an ubuntu install, the install goes fine GRUB sees my WIndows install I tell it to install GRUB then when I reboot it still goes straight to the windows bnoot menu no GRUB
[10:26] <ubuntu_> yes both are i386
[10:26] <znh> tiglionabbit: I have already backport mirrors
[10:26] <hkdev> hello everyone
[10:26] <rekr> anyone know why this is happening?
[10:26] <tiglionabbit> znh: then you should be able to get mplayer, shouldn't you?  I got it
[10:26] <Tsunamii> ok dokie
[10:27] <Tsunamii> how do you work wine?
[10:27] <Tsunamii> i've installed it already :P
[10:27] <znh> tiglionabbit: I'll compile mplayer and mozilla-mplayer at myself.. this is too weird for words :P
[10:27] <IceDC571> Tsunamii: type wine appname.exe
[10:27] <FlannelKing> rekr, are you sure youre not just missing the auto-timout of a hidden grub menu?
[10:27] <tiglionabbit> Tsunamii: open the terminal, and say "wine" followed by the exe you want to run
[10:27] <Tsunamii> really?
[10:27] <ubuntu_> so, xp cd is booting, and another recovery cd from toshiba is booting but this live cd isn@t booting
[10:27] <Tsunamii> that's it?
[10:27] <IceDC571> Tsunamii: yep
[10:27] <Tsunamii> you're kidding me
[10:27] <IceDC571> Tsunamii: what are you planning to run?
[10:27] <Tsunamii> is wine limited to certain programs though?
[10:27] <Tsunamii> well, i want to run steam and half life later :P
[10:27] <Nermal> gfl :)
[10:27] <IceDC571> Tsunamii: yes, there's an application database you can look at
[10:28] <Tsunamii> hey?
[10:28] <IceDC571> Tsunamii: http://appdb.winehq.org/
[10:28] <hkdev> rekr: is your ubuntu partition a primary?
[10:28] <rekr> Shouldnt it got straight into GRUB and default to ubuntu
[10:28] <LinuxRoc> Tsunamii: I would go to wine's site and they will help you out with extra setting if needed
[10:28] <Tsunamii> so basically it's an extension that i'll need to download?
[10:28] <FlannelKing> It isnt 'limited' to those applications, it depends on what the application actually uses
[10:28] <rekr> both the windows and the ubuntu / partitioins are primary
[10:28] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> rekr if you went through the regular install it should have made ubuntu your default, at least it did for me
[10:29] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> rekr did you reinstall windows or something, because windows can be a pain and hog the mbr
[10:29] <Tsunamii> i can't find steam or half life on that list, do i click one of the other links?
[10:29] <Tsunamii> IceDC571, ^
[10:29] <hkdev> rekr: u don't have a special partition for /boot right?
[10:30] <Tsunamii> nvm, found it ;)
[10:30] <djp> patent decision in EU Parliament today folks...
[10:30] <rekr> no special partitionn I let ubuntu do a guided partiotining scheme it took 5 gigs for / and 500 megs for swap
[10:30] <tiglionabbit> say guys, two instances of scim appear on startup.  How can I make it so only one starts?
[10:31] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> rekr, just to clarify, did you manually set your partition table?
[10:31] <hkdev> the GRUB is not installed properly. I had the same issue before.
[10:31] <rekr> basically it seems like the install goes perfect but i dont think it is writing the GRUB to the MBR
[10:31] <hkdev> I re-install and reformatted the partition and it was fine
[10:32] <rekr> i have tried both autop and manually setting the partition tables,GRUB never seems to load right
[10:32] <Tsunamii> also
[10:32] <Tsunamii> would i have to install direct x and the like?
[10:32] <Tsunamii> to be able to actually play them?
[10:32] <tiglionabbit> where would it set such a thing as scim to start at startup?
[10:32] <hkdev> may be some one can help by giving the instruction to manually install the GRUB?
[10:32] <rekr> which partion should be set as bootable>?
[10:32] <tiglionabbit> rekr: if you're using grub, it doesn't matter
[10:33] <froh> i have problems with my 2.6.12+rt-preemt kernel, missing some hotplug stuff and probably a lot more. Is there a ubuntu kernel with ingo's realtime-preemt?
[10:33] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> rekr, if you setup grub by letting ubuntu do it, nothing should have to be bootable, because grub handles it for you
[10:33] <tiglionabbit> rekr: old ms-dos bootloaders look at bootable flags, I believe
[10:33] <rekr> also I have 2 ide drives setup in raid do you think maybe it is installing GRUB to one of theose drives
[10:33] <jsgotangco> hello
[10:33] <tiglionabbit> hello jsgotangco
[10:34] <jsgotangco> tiglionabbit: hi there
[10:34] <tiglionabbit> !mplayer
[10:34] <ubotu> No idea, tiglionabbit
[10:34] <hkdev> rekr: i usually set my / partition to bootable. otherwise, i set to /boot
[10:34] <tiglionabbit> ubotu needs to learn some stuff
[10:34] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: I give up, what is it?
[10:34] <Tsunamii> anyone? :P
[10:34] <jsgotangco> oohh we have a bot here
[10:34] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> rekr, maybe you check your iso with the md5 sums?
[10:34] <Tsunamii> do i need to install directx ?
[10:35] <nightswim> directx?
[10:35] <rekr> also when I switch the bootable flag to the / dpartition it doesnt load the windows boot menu it says Error loading operating system, if i switch the boot flag back to the windows partition it loads the windows boot menu
[10:35] <tiglionabbit> Tsunamii: I don't believe you must install anything.  cedega will run directx programs
[10:35] <Tsunamii> i don't have cedega
[10:35] <Tsunamii> i'm using wine
[10:36] <sinferno> ok im trying to install the nvidia drivers from thier site, and i installed linux-restriced-modules but it says unable to find kernel source tree
[10:36] <sinferno> it says i can specify but i dont know where to specify
[10:36] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> both my windows xp and ubuntu are bootable let me check mine in fdisk
[10:36] <LinuxRoc> sinferno: try installing the header files for your kernel
[10:36] <bigfoot1> hi everyone. i am having difficulty viewing some particular webpages. My first problem was with adrian.warnock.info. The problem, I discovered, was that I couldn't load halocscan.com, which this blog uses to host blog comments/trackbacks. Today, I am trying another blog: www.michellemalkin.com. I have tried the text browser w3m for these, with no success. It's only when i use a proxy such as www.guardster.com (with javascript enabled) can i
[10:36] <bigfoot1> access these sites. Can anyone help me?
[10:37] <tiglionabbit> s0n1cm0nk3y_: it shouldn't matter
[10:37] <sinferno> LinuxRoc, what is the package name
[10:37] <Tsunamii> where's program files with wine?
[10:37] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> tiglionabbit, well always a poss. it might help
[10:37] <cyphase> LOL!
[10:37] <cyphase> omg
[10:37] <Tsunamii> somebody PM me, if they know
[10:38] <Tsunamii> where program files is with wine
[10:38] <cyphase> my cousin reinstalled Ubuntu because she accidently removed the top panel
[10:38] <tiglionabbit> Tsunamii: program files?  Uh, wine should create a fake C:/ I believe
[10:38] <sinferno> LinuxRoc, should i uninstal linux-restricted-modules in order to install nvidia-kernel-source?
[10:38] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> rekr, yeah my windows partiotn is set to boot, and my ubuntu isnt, odd though that the original windows mbr would overpower grub
[10:38] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> im guessing bad iso? but im not sure rekr
[10:38] <sinferno> LinuxRoc, his package is not needed on an Ubuntu system because
[10:38] <sinferno> a pre-compiled kernel module is supplied by the linux-restricted-modules
[10:38] <HrdwrBoB> cyphase: heh.. well, it fixed the problem I bet
[10:39] <jsgotangco> JaneW!
[10:39] <cyphase> HrdwrBoBm, yea :D
[10:39] <IceDC571> ive been using linux for months and i just found out the ls -a command
[10:39] <cyphase> it was a fresh installation anyway
[10:40] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: hooray for you, you're learning
[10:40] <tiglionabbit> =P
[10:40] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: how else did you see your config files?
[10:41] <tiglionabbit> !linux
[10:41] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[10:41] <tiglionabbit> ubotu linux is a kernel, but commonly refers to awesomeness
[10:41] <ubotu> okay, tiglionabbit
[10:41] <IceDC571> tiglionabbit: the file manager for amatures.. nautilus.. and my guessing with TAB completion ;)
[10:41] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> rekr, could you fdisk -l so we can see your partitioning scheme?
[10:42] <tiglionabbit> IceDC571: lol.
[10:42] <sinferno> where do i find the kernel-header files
[10:42] <sinferno> whats the name
[10:42] <rekr> im in windows now
[10:42] <djp> sinferno: do you need nvidia drivers under hoary?
[10:42] <sinferno> oh nvm i have them installed
[10:42] <sinferno> djp, yes
[10:43] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> oh.... hmmmmmm
[10:43] <rekr> is there a way to get the partitioning shcme in xp/
[10:43] <IceDC571> cd .(tab) was my friend.. heh
[10:43] <djp> sinferno: why don't you just apt-get nvidia-glx?
[10:43] <benplaut> \quit "goodnight everyone"
[10:43] <tiglionabbit> say, can I ask my question again?  Startup thingamabobs-- scim starts up twice, how do I fix that?
[10:43] <sinferno> djp, i did and when i restarted glxgears didnt work
[10:43] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> do you have a live cd handy rekr?
[10:43] <benplaut> darn!
[10:43] <benplaut> did it again!
[10:43] <sinferno> djp, soo i was trying to install the ones from thier site
[10:43] <djp> sinferno: oh, i see
[10:43] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> rekr, um you could check the drive manager or whatever its called
[10:44] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> i think i can guide you to it, its in computer management i think, right above where you can format a drive or unallocated space
[10:44] <djp> sinferno: i use the nv drivers with my geforce2 card due to my free software philosophy, so unfortunately i cannot be much more help i'm afraid
[10:44] <tiglionabbit> anybody, yo
[10:44] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> rekr though i dont think it will tell you which is bootable, thats why i was asking if you had a live cd
[10:45] <sinferno> djp, oh
[10:45] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> tiglionabbit, sorry, what was your question? when i dont sleep much i sadly have one track mind
[10:45] <djp> sinferno: good luck
[10:45] <tiglionabbit> there are two scim icons in my notification-area
[10:45] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> tiglionabbit, ill will be glad to help to my fullest if i can though
[10:45] <sinferno> thanks
[10:45] <tiglionabbit> two of em always start up.  How can I make it not do that?
[10:45] <internat> i hate to say it, but im quiet disapointed with this. i have no understand of why such a basic soundcard isnt detected/working
[10:45] <rekr> right now the windows  partition is et to bootable
[10:46] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> tiglionabbit, you running kde as ur wm?
[10:46] <lesshaste> maybe not exactly a linux question but what methods are there for logging into a windows machine remotely from linux?
[10:46] <tiglionabbit> s0n1cm0nk3y_: no, gnome
[10:46] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> tiglionabbit, okay, lol, sadly i didnt know who scim was, so im going by google here
[10:46] <tiglionabbit> lesshaste: lots.  Samba is pre-configured, so you can see shared files in Places -> Network Servers
[10:46] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> tiglionabbit, does it do that every boot or just this one?
[10:47] <lesshaste> tiglionabbit, I didn't mean sharing a file system. I mean like a remote X connection
[10:47] <znh> tiglionabbit: now your talking about it, how is that program called.. it's so nice
[10:47] <tiglionabbit> lesshaste: vncviewer is also installed, so you can use desktops remotely with that.  And uh, other stuff I don't know much about too
[10:47] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> rekr, yeah so is mine, yet i dont have windows taking over the mbr, thats why im curious, do you have ubuntu installed already?
[10:47] <tiglionabbit> s0n1cm0nk3y_: every boot, and
[10:47] <qt2> hm... how do i get more doftware to download on ubuntu? :o
[10:47] <tiglionabbit> !scim
[10:47] <ubotu> scim is probably Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Language input. http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[10:47] <IceDC571> a little out of topic but whats so different about openbsd and freebsd?
[10:47] <tiglionabbit> qt: use synaptic
[10:47] <_root_> a non-root user on my machine is not able to start x.. problem with pam..could anybody please tell me what are the pam entries ?
[10:48] <lesshaste> tiglionabbit, thx...  that's single user right?
[10:48] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> rekr, if so see if you can get into ubuntu, turn off the bootable flag, then get into grub and switch it to be able to boot into windows, which im guessing is the first primary on the first drive, so it would be hd0,0
[10:48] <tiglionabbit> _root_: pam?  first off, are they in the "desktop users" permissions group?
[10:48] <IceDC571> comparing both of them i mean
[10:48] <qt2> oh, didnt notice that before... :o
[10:48] <tiglionabbit> lesshaste: yeah
[10:48] <_root_> tiglionabbit: yes
[10:48] <tiglionabbit> lesshaste: there are probably many possibilities out there I don't know about yet
[10:49] <lesshaste> tiglionabbit, ok... can't find a multiuser solution yet
[10:49] <Mestapheles> does the hoary d-i support multiuser partition setup?
[10:49] <tiglionabbit> s0n1cm0nk3y_: it's probably not dependant on scim, it's a startup item.  Where can I find the config files for startup things?
[10:49] <tiglionabbit> s0n1cm0nk3y_: it's not in the gui startup thingo
[10:50] <JaneW> hi jsgotngco
[10:50] <JaneW> hi jsgotangco even
[10:50] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> tiglionabbit im not sure on that, though im pretty sure i was looking around a tweaked such things before, let me see if i can find where the startups are
[10:51] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> tiglionabbit, im guessing if anything they will be in system or something like that
[10:51] <username> hello
[10:51] <tiglionabbit> s0n1cm0nk3y_: system what?
[10:52] <rekr> thats the problem I cant get into ubuntu
[10:52] <IceDC571> Hints|ubuntu?? lol
[10:52] <tiglionabbit> !grub
[10:52] <ubotu> somebody said grub was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GrubHowto
[10:52] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> tiglionabbit the gnome panel menu system, but i just checked it and couldnt find anything so im not sure, time to check the wonderful google
[10:52] <rekr> i can only load the windows boot menu
[10:52] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> rekr, hmmm, do you understand how to use basic linux, like fdisk and such?
[10:52] <Hints|ubuntu> i got a problem... my screen resolution is 2 small so i can't exit some stuff
[10:52] <tiglionabbit> s0n1cm0nk3y_: I don't think it's related to that.  It is a thing that is somehow startup'd
[10:53] <caskey> Is there a package to install a qmail builder?
[10:53] <tiglionabbit> !resolution
[10:53] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, resolution is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:53] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> rekr if so i can give you the url to knoppix or some other live cd, even ubuntus live cd
[10:53] <Hints|ubuntu> i tried setting it to something larger but it not in list
[10:53] <rekr> i believe i should be able to use fdisk
[10:54] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> tiglionabbit, i know it sounds a bit windows, but try checking it out in synaptic, and if it sounds safe to del it, then do so and reinstall, maybe that might fix it
[10:54] <rekr> I have the ubuntu livecd somewhere, but will that let me access my ubuntu install>?
[10:54] <tiglionabbit> s0n1cm0nk3y_: groan...
[10:54] <tiglionabbit> !scim
[10:54] <ubotu> methinks scim is Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Language input. http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/scim/
[10:54] <tiglionabbit> lemme check the steps and make sure that's how I set it up
[10:55] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> tiglionabbit, lol, sorry, but its the best i can think of at the current moment, im still a bit of a n00b, i just have alot of spare time
[10:55] <tiglionabbit> oh cool, the startup files are edited in that howto
[10:55] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> rekr, i think so, i know you can fdisk or use qparted to setup your partitions on your harddrive, but thats all in knoppix so im not sure
[10:56] <sinferno> ok i installed the nvidia-glx from apt and now i get Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[10:56] <sinferno> when i run gl apps
[10:56] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> tiglionabbit, there we go, ubotu is an usung hero of #ubuntu, lol
[10:56] <tiglionabbit> !nvidia
[10:56] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:57] <znh> tiglionabbit: aviplay works perfectly
[10:57] <tiglionabbit> znh: for what?
[10:57] <tiglionabbit> sinferno: read step 2
[10:57] <znh> tiglionabbit: playing asx files
[10:57] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> tiglionabbit just out of curiousity, whats witht he ! before nividia or scim?
[10:57] <rekr> is the GRUB menu defaulted to hidden after an ubuntu install??
[10:57] <znh> oh boring classic fm -_-
[10:57] <tiglionabbit> znh: I noted a while ago that mozilla-mplayer played em peachy too
[10:57] <Hints|ubuntu> how do i change from terminal back to gui?
[10:58] <tiglionabbit> s0n1cm0nk3y_: command to ubotu
[10:58] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> rekr, not that i know of, it just boots up from it,
[10:58] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> tiglionabbit, oh its a bot, man i need to pay attention
[10:58] <sinferno> tiglionabbit, step 2 of what
[10:58] <znh> tiglionabbit: mplayer doesn't want to install, so that is nothing for me :(
[10:58] <tiglionabbit> znh: it should...   did I add a marrilat repository or something?  Lemme check the wikis and forums a sec
[10:58] <znh> tiglionabbit: ok
[10:58] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> rekr, question, when you did the manual config, did u make ubuntu bootable while you were doing so?
[10:59] <tiglionabbit> oh cool
[10:59] <tiglionabbit> ubotu mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[10:59] <ubotu> okay, tiglionabbit
[11:00] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> rekr, sorry, cant find a bloody screen shot to show you what im talking about
[11:01] <tiglionabbit> znh: does that guide help you out?  Seems all it does differently is add the multiverse repository.  Do you have that?
[11:02] <znh> tiglionabbit: I have, I got a sources from the ubuntuforums which contains all
[11:02] <internat> fwaor even the live version of standard ubuntu has issues with my sound card
[11:02] <sinferno> i still cant get it working
[11:02] <sinferno> i dont know what u meant by step 2
[11:03] <misieq> hi there!
[11:03] <rekr> im not sure i understand the wuestion, did i make thubuntu partiton bootable?
[11:04] <tiglionabbit> znh: there are other wiki entries for mplayer from source and such
[11:04] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> rekr, during the install in the manual partitioning, theres a setting after you set the partition (when it shows the file system, the size and other stuff) that allows you to make the ubuntu partition bootable, im not sure if its needed, but im guessing that could be the reason for your mbr woes
[11:04] <znh> tiglionabbit: okay, but it's not really needed.. aviplay is awesome
[11:05] <tiglionabbit> znh: ok then
[11:05] <misieq> i used movixisocreator under windows xp in order to create a bootable iso image with movies, but fat32 isn't able to store files larger than 2gb, so i had to make one ntfs partition, but when i used mkisofs, it created output which diseppeared right after mkisofs quited. i decided to use '-split-output' parameter, so mkisofs created few iso files of 1gb size. the question is how can i write them on dvd????
[11:05] <rekr> tried that thats when i get the Error loading operating system
[11:06] <misieq> i'm working on ubuntu now, and have iso images accessible
[11:07] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> rekr, odd, so you set that option to bootable and you get error loading system, you mean it pops up even before grub gives you your choices to boot from?
[11:07] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> to help rekr, does anybody know any problems with sata hard drives and installations ?
[11:08] <misieq> s0n1cm0nk3y_, well, i installed once grub with fedora4 on sata
[11:10] <misieq> s0n1cm0nk3y_ (or rekr), but tell me what the problem is?
[11:10] <tiglionabbit> !windows
[11:10] <ubotu> it has been said that windows is Everything runs in linux. Your choice of emulation is a difficult one. Cedega, Wine(x), VMware,Xen,CrossOver Office, are there more? let me know.
[11:11] <tiglionabbit> !windowsusers
[11:11] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: Bugger all, i dunno
[11:11] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> misieq, rekr is having troubles with grub in his mbr, from what i gather when he has his windows primary set to bootable, it forsakes grub and just boots windows, and when he sets his ubuntu partition during the installation to bootable, he gets system error
[11:11] <tiglionabbit> ubotu windowsusers is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[11:11] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: okay
[11:11] <Seveas> s0n1cm0nk3y_, sounds like he installed grub on the wrong partition
[11:11] <soulfly> if I want to use 2.6.12 on hoary, which are the minimum required patches I must download to not interfere with functionality in hoary?
[11:11] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> misieq i was curious as to whether you had any troubles with installing to sata, cause im basing my ideas on my ide drives
[11:12] <misieq> yes, i had problems
[11:12] <Seveas> grub should be installed on the primary partition during install. If you mess with drive booting settings in the bios later, you will need to change the grub config
[11:12] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> seveas from what i gather hes letting ubuntu do it, so im guessing its just installing grub in the mbr, as it did for me
[11:12] <misieq> it seems that you have other /dev-s under grub and under booted linux
[11:12] <Seveas> s0n1cm0nk3y_, maybe in the mbr of the wrong drive...
[11:12] <rekr> yes the error loading pops up before grub it happens during bioses attempt to boot a hard disk
[11:13] <misieq> rekr, what drives do you have? i mean only sata or ide as well??
[11:13] <rekr> im thinking it might be installing it to one of the IDE drives
[11:13] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> rekr is windows your first primary partition on the hdd?
[11:13] <Seveas> rekr, install grub on the primary boot drive
[11:13] <Seveas> grub can boot windows perfectly fine
[11:14] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> rekr, also is the drive your ubuntu and grub installed on your master drive, the primary drive?
[11:14] <rekr> i have one SATA and 2 IDES in RAID, but the install shows the IDE drives separately as hda and hdc, and the SATA as sda
[11:14] <rekr> when GRUB is loading it says installing to hd0
[11:14] <Seveas> rekr, correct, hd0 is sda
[11:14] <s0n1cm0nk3y_> seveas , rekr, yeah mine doesnt have problems, but have windows and ubuntu on the same master drive
[11:14] <tiglionabbit> !alternatives
[11:14] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[11:15] <tiglionabbit> ubotu forget windows
[11:15] <ubotu> i forgot windows, tiglionabbit
[11:15] <tiglionabbit> ubotu windows is Everything runs in linux. Choose your emulator: Cedega, Wine, VMware, Qemu, Xen, CrossOver Office, or find an !alternative
[11:15] <ubotu> tiglionabbit: okay
[11:15] <tiglionabbit> ubotu forget windowsusers
[11:15] <ubotu> i forgot windowsusers, tiglionabbit
[11:15] <rekr> im getting no errors during install it installs GRUB fine it seems, it just when it reboots to start ubuntu for the first time, I got directly to the window bott menu, no GRUB
[11:15] <gm78> Hey all. I have something weird going on. Xsensors is claiming i have a dead fan, but my fans are running. it is saying there is a third fan, but i dont know what it is talking about. i have uploaded a screenshot to my webspace. http://members.shaw.ca/ryan_mcgregor/Screenshot.png
[11:15] <tiglionabbit> ubotu alternative is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WhatWindowsUsersWant
[11:15] <ubotu> okay, tiglionabbit
[11:15] <tiglionabbit> !osswin
[11:15] <ubotu> No idea, tiglionabbit