[14:21] <crawler> hi.  it seems there are 2 different suspend scripts being called when i either: A) close the laptop lid. or B) click "Main Menu > Shut Down... > Suspend".  My Question is, how can i make it to when i close the laptop lid, the script for "Main Menu > Shut Down... > Suspend" is called??  i ask because when i close the lid, my external VGA monitor comes on brifly and turns off, then when i open the lid the external monitor turns on, but it's complet
[14:21] <crawler> ely black.  this doesn't happen at all when i click "Main Menu > Shut Down... > Suspend".  please help
[14:21] <wookienz> acicula: it wasnt ESC, it was shift to hold to get grub menu... grub2! FYI
[14:22] <EgOr> x64-vt : i dont use mobile connect in linux, i use the mobine broadband connection manager
[14:22] <EgOr> *mobile
[14:22] <xLP> anyone knows how to mount sshfs (fuse) from a script (so, a way to provide password) ? I tried various ways, using stdin, googled it... nothing worked
[14:22] <acicula> Lantizia: you must distinguish between packaging it in the distribution installation media(cd/dvd/etc) and making it available for isntallation
[14:22] <wookienz> acicula: i managed to boot a recovery kernel...god knows what i do know to fix the orinigal one.
[14:23] <x64-vt> egor ok, it will have an option to set your network preferences, and if you want it to switch them automatic or not
[14:23] <acicula> wookienz: try restarting and finishing the update?
[14:23] <wookienz> acicula: there was no update, just a crashed prog that made me restart the box in the first place1
[14:23] <EgOr> x64-vt : it doesnot have that option
[14:23] <x64-vt> well that's bad
[14:24] <EgOr> x64-vt : i know
[14:25] <x64-vt> if your provider accounts more out or HSDPA traffic, how can you avoid that?
[14:25] <EgOr> x64-vt :Thats why i am here for help from you all
[14:25] <Baribal> talntid, it works!
[14:25] <x64-vt> i am searching how to do it
[14:25] <vak> hi all
[14:25] <EgOr> x64-vt : I dont know, it works fine in windows
[14:25] <wookienz> acicula: would a recovery boot, then a normal boot change anything?
[14:25] <Lantizia> acicula, I thought the issue was obtaining of any kind (download, cd or other) the binary compiled decoder
[14:25] <Baribal> Thanks again.
[14:25] <talntid> I thought it might ;)
[14:25] <x64-vt> what do you use in windows?
[14:25] <x64-vt> which sw
[14:25] <talntid> I figured it pulls settings one time, when it starts.. :)
[14:25] <talntid> glad its working for you
[14:25] <guest9187> Eg0r: They dont deliver HSDPA as they should. Know far more people that have the same problem. Try edit connection, in the settings and you should see a tab for connection type
[14:25] <talntid> buttons on the left side are annoying.
[14:25] <x64-vt> talntid: are you talking to us?
[14:25] <vak> where should I update PATH, so it is updated for all processes. (I tried .bashrc and tried .bash_profile -- both cover the situation only partially )
[14:26] <EgOr> x64-vt : Mobile Partner which is provided by huawei
[14:26] <acicula> Lantizia: no, the gpl license specifically talks about bundling nonfree software and such
[14:26] <x64-vt> it's the best for me, so why don't you use it on linux either?
[14:26] <Lantizia> acicula, but it's not non-free
[14:26] <Lantizia> acicula, full source code
[14:26] <EgOr> guest9187 : I'll try that
[14:27] <acicula> Lantizia: yes, but emburdend by patents for which no license is given
[14:27] <EgOr> x64-vt : My wine just wont install any application
[14:27] <x64-vt> ok
[14:27] <bonjoyee> !find cdda2wav
[14:27] <duke_> hi guys a question i put this command gnome-schedule but window is too small : DISPLAY=:0.0 zenity --warning --title="Essen" --text="Essen fertig."
[14:28] <x64-vt> mobile connect is also native in linux, no need for wine!
[14:28] <rethus> have evolution 2.30 -. maverick default installation.. how can i get 2.322 (actual stable release) ?
[14:28] <EgOr> x64-vt : really? ..
[14:28] <acicula> Lantizia: or other legal issues, like with libdvdcss which circumvents some drm protections
[14:29] <Sincide> So, I got a problem, I got an Iphone 4, IOS 4.1 and the question is, How can I transfer video files from my Ubuntu desktop to my phone? Gtkpod doesnt work well with iphone 4, anyone, please?
[14:29] <x64-vt> from what i read and see...you should find it with apt-get
[14:30] <Lantizia> acicula, if whomever you got your mp3 decoding from needs a license then how/why does debian offer it in their main repository?
[14:30] <acicula> Lantizia: anyway source code is not free either, its still owned via copyright, just made available under an open license
[14:30] <Lantizia> it still makes no sense
[14:30] <EgOr> x64-vt: what is the name of the package
[14:30] <x64-vt> wait
[14:30] <x64-vt> maybe vodafone-mobile-connect
[14:30] <x64-vt> or try apt-get search
[14:31] <x64-vt> that option is absolutely fundamental
[14:31] <acicula> Lantizia: because its not illigal to offer the program or the source code
[14:31] <scriptwarlock> rethus, try the ppa
[14:31] <Lantizia> acicula, then why is it illegal to offer but the program (but the source code is ok) for an encoder?
[14:32] <rethus> ppa:ubuntu/ppa ?
[14:32] <EgOr> x64-vt: Thanx , I'll do that
[14:32] <scriptwarlock> rethus, yes
[14:33] <x64-vt> tell me wheter you get it or not, even in PM
[14:33] <acicula> Lantizia: (i think, im not a lawyer that) its not distributed with the distro itself because of the patent conflicts, and because it may be illigal for you to use in whatever country it is that you live in
[14:33] <inashdeen> hi!
[14:33] <EgOr> x64-vt: does this mobile connect s/w comes as operator specific
[14:33] <acicula> Lantizia: well i suppse illigal is the wrong term, you wont go to jail for violating a patent
[14:33] <inashdeen> did anyone comment on me just now, my line got disconnected
[14:33] <scriptwarlock> rethus, but be cautious
[14:34] <rethus> why?
[14:34] <acicula> Lantizia: its basically what SCO does, they claim to own some patents that apply to certain parts of the linux kernel, and for that started sending licensing fee bills to companies known to use it
[14:34] <x64-vt> not sure, i hope you have both specific and general ones
[14:34] <EgOr> x64-vt: let me reboot now and see, i am in windows right now
[14:34] <x64-vt> we don't like windows users, you know? ahahah
[14:35] <upsla> scriptwarlock: r u there ?
[14:35] <scriptwarlock> rethus, sometimes it may go wrong.. why not use the ubuntu default is there some interesting changes on that verison?
[14:35] <scriptwarlock> upsla, yep
[14:35] <EgOr> x64-vt: i already told you why am in windows, i dont like windows either
[14:35] <inashdeen> x64-vt: i think u forgotten the ub philosophy. it is not bout hating others, but about respecting others immaterial of what os they r using
[14:35] <upsla> how did the concert go ?
[14:36] <scriptwarlock> upsla, just it didn't fit my age.. its an oldie concert :P
[14:36] <x64-vt> was only a joke, i cant trust you didnt saw that
[14:36] <x64-vt> only the lol was missing from statement
[14:36] <upsla> scriptwarlock: k.now to my problem. any solutions ?
[14:36] <rethus> scriptwarlocks: i come from kde and kmail. evolution don't realy have features for usability... and i ask for it in the irc "evolution".. thes told me, 2.30 seems to be "such old version" i should install 2.32.
[14:36] <rethus> anyway i think evolution can't beat kmail... but i give it a try
[14:36] <scriptwarlock> upsla, googling a bit and heres some links i found for you but..
[14:36] <Askyi> Ciao a Tutti!!!
[14:37] <Askyi> ciao
[14:37] <x64-vt> rethus doesn't thunderbird fit for you?
[14:37] <Askyi> !list
[14:37] <toader_> Hi, I want to replace the number 0 to 1 between line 10-11 in test.txt. What is wrong with this script? sed -e "10,11/s/0/1/" test.txt >new.txt
[14:37] <haba713> i've installed ubuntu 10.10 to usb stick with casper-rw persistence. how can i disable the try/isnstall dialog on every boot?
[14:37] <rethus> no, i change from thunderbird to kmail in past, cause thunderbird realy drive me crazy...
[14:37] <aneviltrend> toader_: try taking out the first slash after 11 there
[14:38] <rethus> tb may now be better, but i wan't to use the complete Desktop-Kontact-Suit
[14:38] <scriptwarlock> upsla, its a trial and error thing.. so i suggest to install ubuntu first in vbox to try things.. but it think vbox can share internet for the guest have you tried this?
[14:38] <bonjoyee> haba713: install it!;)
[14:38] <rethus> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ppa/ubuntu
[14:38] <rethus> this dont exist
[14:38] <rethus> what have i to enter to get ppa?
[14:38] <x64-vt> scriptwarlock: it should share either
[14:38] <upsla> scriptwarlock: but i have already installed ubuntu on my system.
[14:38] <x64-vt> hi debian
[14:38] <guest9187> Eg0r: did you get youre connection work
[14:39] <scriptwarlock> upsla, i doesnt matter but thats the easy way to get you taste the ubuntu life
[14:39] <x64-vt> guest9187: we are waiting for him....xd
[14:39] <haba713> bonjoyee: installation should be used on various computers.
[14:39] <toader_> avelldiroll: but still doesnt work
[14:39] <upsla> scriptwarlock: so thats the final solution ?
[14:39] <rethus> what the ubuntu ppa adress
[14:39] <x64-vt> guest9187: have you got similar issue?
[14:39] <scriptwarlock> rethus, https://launchpad.net/~julenlanda/+archive/evolution/+packages
[14:39] <duke_> is it possible to start gnome shedule in background the crontabs are comming fronted even with gnome-schedule &
[14:39] <bonjoyee> haba713: install it to the usb drive?
[14:40] <vak> I'll get crazy today... How could it be that some command (actually "mvn") could be invoked, but which mvn results to empty string??!!
[14:40] <vak> "which mvn"
[14:40] <scriptwarlock> upsla, theres a link i'll paste but everyting is hit and miss
[14:40] <aneviltrend> toader_: try reading this page, it's a pretty good reference http://www.grymoire.com/Unix/Sed.html
[14:40] <rethus> scriptwarlock: if ppa, i only use good known one
[14:40] <rethus> thats looks realy small ans private.. looks not secoure for me
[14:40] <scriptwarlock> rethus, the one that is officially supported by evolution but if not then its up to you to test it
[14:41] <EgOr> x64-vt : its not there
[14:41] <cg582u> quit
[14:41] <x64-vt> oh
[14:41] <x64-vt> maybe it's out of ufficial repos
[14:41] <x64-vt> wait
[14:41] <upsla> scriptwarlock: link ?
[14:42] <rethus> Failed to fetch https://launchpad.net/~julenlanda/+archive/evolution/+packages/dists/maverick/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  The requested URL returned error: 404
[14:42] <scriptwarlock> upsla, http://twhiteman.netfirms.com/linux_adsl.html --- http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/125438-install-conexant-usb-adsl-modem.html -- and the one from ubuntu forum posted 3days ago from india
[14:42] <guest9187> x64-vt: yes, i got that. time ago since i managed to get connection to work temporary
[14:42] <scriptwarlock> rethus, do you know how to install a ppa?
[14:43] <sacarlson> upsla: you better off just running windows inside virtualbox inside ubuntu and share your internet with the windows hosted inside
[14:43] <rethus> yes, go to packagemanager and insert the source, than only package upgrade
[14:43] <EgOr> x64-vt : I got it, it was under the connections tab
[14:44] <sacarlson> upsla: or reverse run ubuntu inside windows and share internet with windows that way
[14:44] <x64-vt> egor see? i told you it's basic feature
[14:44] <EgOr> x64-vt : Anyways thanks for your help
[14:44] <scriptwarlock> upsla, but the best solution i suggest for now is to install ubuntu inside windows (vbox) and let vbox share the internet for your ubuntu
[14:44] <x64-vt> you are welcome
[14:44] <EgOr> x64-vt : yes its a very basic feature
[14:44] <upsla> scriptwarlock: where is ubuntu forum link ?
[14:44] <haba713> bonjoyee: i'll i need is to find a configuration or rc file that could be changed to log user in instead of displaying the try/install dialog. i must happen somwhere in xinit but i'm not that familiar with it. maybe someone else here is.
[14:44] <scriptwarlock> upsla, http://art.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1657160
[14:45] <rethus> can someone tell me how is the Adress of ubuntu/ppa ?
[14:45] <EagleCZ> hello, could someone help me make a ext3 partition on my SDcard connected to PC via HTC Desire?
[14:45] <guest9187> Eg0r; great you found it :)
[14:45] <scriptwarlock> rethus, did you get the ppa?
[14:45] <DThought> EagleCZ: is it visibla as mass storage? /dev/sdb ?
[14:46] <rethus> i don't know what u mean
[14:46] <DThought> EagleCZ: if so, simply do a mkfs.ext3fs /dev/sdxx (use the correct device)
[14:46] <rethus> noone tells me the adress
[14:46] <EagleCZ> im a total noob to linux so i dont know how to find out where it is... should i use cd /dev/sdb and ls<
[14:46] <scriptwarlock> rethus, the link i gave for evolution
[14:46] <Taravel> hi, is there a way to join all files in a folder? I have a lot of .m2ts files coming from a blu ray and I want to join them but because there are a lot of small files is hard to write all in a cat file1 file2 ... filen > Jfile
[14:46] <sacarlson> scriptwarlock: upsla: http://www.virtualbox.org/
[14:46] <rethus> didn't work as repo
[14:47] <rethus> and i need ppa nevertheless
[14:47] <AbhiJit> rethus, what do you actually wants to do?
[14:47] <rethus> add ubuntu-ppa to repositories
[14:47] <scriptwarlock> yeah
[14:47] <AbhiJit> rethus, for what purpose?
[14:47] <scriptwarlock> rethus, yeah
[14:47] <rethus> in kubuntu it was quite easy:
[14:47] <Um_cara_Qualquer> does anybody knows how change the parameters of musics... like changing all Eric clapton songs to the same album... artist... and stuff
[14:47] <rethus> pps:kubuntu/ppa
[14:47] <Um_cara_Qualquer> ?
[14:47] <rethus> finish and be happy
[14:48] <rethus> what with ubuntu.. how is the adress
[14:48] <AbhiJit> rethus, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
[14:48] <AbhiJit> rethus, https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[14:48] <scriptwarlock> AbhiJit, he likes to try the latest veriosn of evolution
[14:48] <EagleCZ> ok so sdb does not exist... im running linux from a cd
[14:48] <gobbe> Um_cara_Qualquer: most of players can do hat
[14:48] <rethus> need it for evvolution upgrade to 3.22
[14:48] <scriptwarlock> AbhiJit, version*
[14:48] <AbhiJit> !ppa | rethus
[14:48] <AbhiJit> scriptwarlock, ok
[14:48] <scriptwarlock> AbhiJit, told him at his own risk
[14:48] <Um_cara_Qualquer> gobbe, how can I do that with rhytmbox?
[14:48] <BluesKaj> rethus, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports , then, sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa
[14:49] <rethus> BluesKaj i didn't need kubuntu
[14:49] <AbhiJit> scriptwarlock, yah
[14:49] <BluesKaj> rethus, this also works for kubuntu
[14:49] <gobbe> Um_cara_Qualquer: select song, mouse second click and properties
[14:49] <rethus> i still need NO kubuntu
[14:49] <rethus> :D
[14:49] <BluesKaj> rethus, uhm , delete the k
[14:49] <rethus> but i know what u mean
[14:50] <AbhiJit> rethus, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1611197.html
[14:50] <bonjoyee> gobbe: can u suggest a software that can do it  when the music is already there on the disk?
[14:50] <gobbe> bonjoyee: you can do it by yourself with almost all soft
[14:50] <x64-vt> egor so working fine now?
[14:51] <bonjoyee> gobbe: organise music by artist/album etc? how?
[14:51] <shawn> morning
[14:52] <gobbe> bonjoyee: it does it automatically or do you mean in filesystem like putting them in folders
[14:52] <crawler> i need help finding what script/commend is called for "Suspend" when the laptop lid is closed (as set in the gnome-power-preferences).
[14:52] <EagleCZ> ok i found the SD card... could you please write me the complete command to make an ext3 partition? its at /dev/sde
[14:52] <Um_cara_Qualquer> gobbe, thx man
[14:52] <bonjoyee> gobbe: yes..when the files are already ripped and are on the disk..then?
[14:52] <haba713> bonjoyee: i think that the answer is here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10136413#post10136413
[14:53] <haba713> i mean for removing try/install dialog... sudo apt-get remove ubiquity
[14:53] <bonjoyee> gobbe: i know rhythmbox can do it while ripping new cds..
[14:53] <gobbe> bonjoyee: i dont know that, theres reason why i use catalogs in software, i dont care how they are on disk
[14:53] <aurilliance> I have Lua installd on ubuntu, but seem to be missing liblualib.so - where can I get it?
[14:54] <EagleCZ> DThought:mkfs.ext3fs: command not found
[14:54] <bonjoyee> haba713: as far as i know...removing a program from a live cd..will have no effect  after reboot!
[14:55] <raven> any command to display several physical information about a machine
[14:55] <compdoc> mkfs.ext3
[14:56] <compdoc> or locate mkfs - see whats there
[14:56] <scriptwarlock> raven, hardinfo
[14:56] <tehbaut> after dd'ing two partitions ...one to one drive, then from that drive to another... then md5sum'ing them, I don't get matching sums... is there a better way to validate that the partitions match?
[14:56] <raven> scriptwarlock, ok tnx
[14:57] <EagleCZ> /dev/sde is entire device, not just one partition!
[14:57] <EagleCZ> i need to create some partition first... how please?
[14:57] <vak>  How could it be that some command (actually "mvn") could be invoked, but "which mvn" results to empty string??!!
[14:58] <EagleCZ> and i would appretiate if it wouldnt need to delete my data on the sddrive, just add some 1gb partition
[14:58] <scriptwarlock> raven, heheh its a gui of course but you can use lspci -v
[14:59] <bars0> Hi all! I have a question: Am I need to install grub if I plan to do standalone installation? Until today I have had always Linux and Windows side by side.
[14:59] <scriptwarlock> raven, or lshw
[15:00] <akssps011> bars0: isn't grub the default bootloader ? ;)
[15:00] <dale_> no
[15:00] <x64-vt> akssps011: maybe he wants to boot linux from windows bootloader xd
[15:01] <bars0> akssps011: so bootloader is obligatory? Even if there's only one system on the machine?
[15:01] <augustl> I'm having a hard time setting up monit on ubuntu server - I want monit to start mysqld, for example, not upstart. I also have both /etc/init.d/mysql and /etc/init/mysql.conf. Is there an article somewhere I should read?
[15:02] <akssps011> bars0: in generaly, yes
[15:02] <BluesKaj> bars0, yeah it installs by default altho you can bypass it by editing the grub timeout to 0 which is the norm on single boot HDDs
[15:02] <akssps011> *general
[15:03] <scriptwarlock> thanks guys gonna go now...
[15:03] <s`> Are there some windows font packages in the repos?
[15:03] <ignus> In fact I loved playing around with the old grub legacy on a dual boot windows-ubuntu machine
[15:04] <bars0> BluesKaj: thanks, I had same plans
[15:05] <Ascavasaion> How come #freebsd is invite only?
[15:05] <augustl> anyone on init vs upstart on ubunt userver?
[15:05] <jpds> Ascavasaion: You probably need to be registered to join.
[15:05] <acuster> hey all, what is the 'official' approach to changing the startup of a system service (i.e. LDAP)?
[15:06] <acuster> are we supposed to change the scripts in /etc/ or is there some automated/graphical tool?
[15:06] <Ascavasaion> jpds: Okay :)
[15:06] <rubbs> !upstart > rubbs
[15:06] <prince12> HELLO ALL
[15:06] <b00tmaker> hi
[15:06]  * acuster goes off to muck with the init scripts
[15:06] <b00tmaker> can someone help me with squid
[15:06] <jacquesdupontd_> hey
[15:07] <b00tmaker> if have this error: squid main process (27837) terminated with status 1
[15:07] <prince12> ROCKET 16
[15:07] <b00tmaker> but i have no idea why
[15:07] <rubbs> augustl: whatcha wanna know? I'm not an expert, but I know a little.
[15:08]  * digitalvaldosta wonders if there is a way around going to Windows to run chkdsk /r when running WUBI?
[15:08] <sacarlson> b00tmaker: did you modify the config?
[15:09] <lnlkwndl> Hello everyone. Have a little problem with the family computer. When it boots up the mouse sometimes doesn't respond. I can unplug it and plug it back in but is there a faster way to fix this problem? rmmod and modprobe maybe?
[15:09] <b00tmaker> yes
[15:09] <lnlkwndl> I should check dmesg maybe. I'll do that.
[15:10] <b00tmaker> but i have del my backup
[15:10] <b00tmaker> any idea where i can get the default conf
[15:10] <b00tmaker> i'm usin 10.04 server lts
[15:10] <sacarlson> b00tmaker: do complete remove --purge and reinstall
[15:11] <EagleCZ> sudo cfdisk /dev/sde - FATAL ERROR: Bad primary partition 0: Partition begins after end-of-disk
[15:11] <EagleCZ> any ideas please?
[15:11] <Eagle> Dose anyone know the exact site for ubuntu packages?
[15:11] <augustl> rubbs: I want to figure out how to stop stuff from starting on boot
[15:11] <augustl> i.e. mysql, which is under upstart now, it seems
[15:12] <ZykoticK9> Eagle, http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[15:12] <tev> When you login into a ubuntu shell, there is the message "you have no mail" where is this call set? I don't see anything in bashrc or profile
[15:12] <EagleCZ> not me, someone else was asking for the packages
[15:12] <EagleCZ> oh he has the almost same nick
[15:12] <sacarlson> EagleCZ: is delete the partition an option?
[15:12] <EagleCZ> well it might be if its necessary
[15:13] <ShootEmUp> Hello Everyone!
[15:13] <Eagle> ZykoticK9: thanks a Hundred.........
[15:13] <b00tmaker> hmm
[15:14] <daedra> Hi there. I've plugged in a new internal harddrive into my computer. It mounts under /media as 9vuh38h3-923br937b8f01 (or similar). How do I have it mount under my desired location?
[15:14] <tev> When you login into a ubuntu shell, there is the message "you have no mail" where is this call set? I don't see anything in bashrc or profile, even pointing me in the right direction is very much appreciated
[15:14] <b00tmaker> @sacarlson: i've made an apt-get uninstall ... and now ?
[15:14] <b00tmaker> how do i purge ?
[15:14] <b00tmaker> ;)
[15:14] <RC^Tab> tev there is update script that does that on login
[15:15] <tev> mm I don't see any thing related to it.
[15:15] <sacarlson> EagleCZ: what is it we will be loosing if the partition is deleted,  I'm not very good at ferensic get data out of broken disks,  but with enuf effort it can be done
[15:15] <RC^Tab> tev : yeah yeah its called something arb
[15:15] <RC^Tab> its actually a hook
[15:15] <RC^Tab> not a direct call from the script
[15:15] <EagleCZ> it is not broken... i can access it normally... just not via cfdisk
[15:16] <tev> RC^Tab: mmm a hook inside of bashrc?
[15:16] <RC^Tab> 1 sec
[15:16] <sacarlson> b00tmaker:  I think it's apt-get purge <packagename>   try man apt-get
[15:16] <tev> it seems to be before bashrc is read cause I still get "you have no mail" and bashrc already has the export MAIL = Maildir
[15:17] <Eagle>  ZykoticK9 : What do i chose where it says ( Browse through the lists of packages:)???
[15:17] <ajl4e> Can anyone suggest which Java IDE works best with ubuntu?
[15:17] <tev> which I know works since mail now reads $HOME/Maildir
[15:17] <RC^Tab> tev : here we go
[15:17] <RC^Tab> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UpdateMotd
[15:17] <tev> thx
[15:17] <RC^Tab> that generates the login message
[15:18] <digitalvaldosta> ** Does anyone know what command that I can run from a shell in Ubuntu to force or run a chkdsk /r instead of having to run windows? I am running WUBI with 10.04.1
[15:18] <[R00teR]> anyone know how to set a password to Almanah?
[15:18] <sacarlson> ajl4e: probly the cool one from Sun or oricle
[15:18] <ajl4e> hmmm
[15:19] <EagleCZ> my data is backed up, how do delete the partition and create 2 functional?
[15:19] <ZykoticK9> Eagle, i'm not sure.  I have no idea what you are doing.  Why do you need to download the packages manually?  apt should do this automatically, or is this for a system that's not online (is going to give you dependency issues if it is)
[15:20] <[R00teR]> no one know to set a password for almanah?
[15:20] <hydrian> ello all
[15:20] <sacarlson> opps I didn't even know what IDE was
[15:21] <Eagle> ZykoticK9: Yes it is for a system that is not online, and i need to download packages on to my hard disk,
[15:21] <sacarlson> if ajl4e returns tell them http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/packages/eclipse-ide-java-developers/heliosm7  might be better
[15:21] <tev> mmm that is odd
[15:21] <tev> motd should get the variables from bashrc
[15:22] <hydrian> How do you set configure to allow a user to allow a user to read a file they don't normally have access to.  'i.e. cat /my/protected_file'
[15:23] <ZykoticK9> Eagle, that is going to cause problems (with required dependencies) - if you have a working maching (with the same architecture, 32 vs 64bit)  you should check out apt-on-cd [something i haven't really used].  Best of luck man.
[15:23] <sacarlson> hydrian: man chmod
[15:24] <go^> phemt88, sei Ph3mt? Quello che stava anche in IRCNet ?
[15:24] <adub> im getting could not calculate upgrade message
[15:24] <mikeJ> hi
[15:24] <kuuki> i want to put some password to open folder by that to prevent my friends to open them is it possible in ubuntu
[15:24] <adub> when trying to run an upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10
[15:24] <sacarlson> EagleCZ: normaly I use gparted to delete and recreate partitions
[15:25] <EagleCZ> sacarlson: where do i get it?
[15:25] <mikeJ> can somone help me install the banshee awn plugin? I cant get it to show up in the banshee exstensions on preferences
[15:25] <b00tmaker> thx
[15:25] <erUSUL> !permissions | kuuki hydrian
[15:25] <JabberWalkie> kuuki, yep, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[15:25] <hydrian> sacarlson: that will not work for me.  This is a transitory file.  It is a .pid file.  I am using a script to read it's contents but the user the script runs as doesn't have access to the pid file.
[15:25] <sacarlson> EagleCZ: it's installed by default in desktop System>admininstration>Gparted
[15:26] <Eagle> ZykoticK9: I now but its not for long. I just need to get the packages put them on computer fix it up and install everything and the i can get the internet to it.
[15:27] <EagleCZ> sacarlson: ok thanks, will probably make it on my own from now :]
[15:27]  * hydrian is trying read /var/run/mysql/mysqld.pid
[15:27] <mikeJ> can somone help me install the banshee awn plugin? I cant get it to show up in the banshee exstensions on preferences
[15:27] <sacarlson> EagleCZ: you original program probly also does it or fdisk
[15:27] <researcher1> #CUPS
[15:28] <researcher1> I want to join CUPS channel how to do that
[15:28] <Nanoha> researcher1: /join #CUPS
[15:28] <aldhiansyah> hohohoh
[15:28] <EagleCZ> sacarlson: i tried fdisk but im a total noob to linux so id rather use a form based program
[15:28] <sacarlson> hydrian: I'm not sure what your pid method is.  maybe some kind of tmpfs thing that's encrypted?
[15:29] <researcher1> Nanoha: thanks
[15:29] <Nanoha> np
[15:29] <sacarlson> EagleCZ: they should all work
[15:29] <Bisu[Shield]> what do you guys think about mint?
[15:29] <mikeJ> can somone help me install the banshee awn plugin? I cant get it to show up in the banshee exstensions on preferences
[15:30] <Eagle>
[15:30] <Eagle> Bisu[Shield] Ubuntu is better....
[15:30] <ZykoticK9> Bisu[Shield], I think "mint" is offtopic in this channel ;)
[15:30] <neiz> How do you diagnose if the power supply is able to pump enough juice?  I have about 10 usb ports on my rig and only seems to be powering half of them at one time
[15:30] <Bisu[Shield]> how is ubuntu better?
[15:30] <sacarlson> Bisu[Shield]: since I keep seeing people here talking about mint I guess they must have no support
[15:30] <Eagle> ZykoticK9: I now but its not for long. I just need to get the packages put them on computer fix it up and install everything and the i can get the internet to it.
[15:31] <genii-around> Bisu[Shield]: Support
[15:31] <ZykoticK9> Bisu[Shield], your question is offtopic for this channel - you could try in ##linux or #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish.
[15:31] <pelo> hey, i was wondering if some of the problems i've been seeing are related to my graphics card/drivers? I have to enable the extra effects in compiz everytime i reboot and yet some of the options just aren't shown in the menu at all. I've also been seeing slightly twitchy videos in firefox
[15:33] <goltoof> neiz:  you could invest in a hub with an external power source.  a good idea regardless
[15:33] <EagleCZ> sacarlson: i need to create a second partition of ext3 format for my phone... should it be a primary or extended partition?
[15:33] <pelo> I have a 5750 ati graphics card
[15:33] <AbhiJit> hey guys
[15:33] <Eagle> Bisu[Shield] Ask questions relating problems...........
[15:33] <AbhiJit> where can know more about linux coffe machine? can i use it to make tea?
[15:33] <hydrian> sacarlson: I'm just running 'cat /var/run/mysql/mysql.pid' to get the mysqld's PID. MySQLD pid file's permissions are 0640:mysql:mysql. So my monitoring script user (nagios) cannot read the .pid file
[15:34] <ZykoticK9> pelo, regarding the missing stuff in compiz try installing the compiz-fusion-plugins-extra package.  Regarding having to set it each time you boot up, i remember this issue a long time ago and installing fusion-icon fixed it for me YMMV.
[15:34] <sacarlson> EagleCZ: If you have no plans to make more than 3 partitions than it make no difference
[15:34] <hydrian> I think I may have found the command
[15:34] <kuuki> JabberWalkie, can u tell me briefly it is difficult for me understand please
[15:34] <JabberWalkie> kuuki, sorry, I gotta head out
[15:34] <EagleCZ> sacarlson: ok thanks again for help, you are a saviour ^^
[15:34] <sacarlson> EagleCZ: you max out at 4 primary partitions ,  if you want more than 4 then use the other
[15:34] <neiz> goltoof: In addition to the port's on the mobo, I have a powered usb hub.  Works fine, but upon plugging the hub into the mobo, it is a tossup as to whether or not it will be detected
[15:35] <pelo> do you know the compiz-fusion-plugins-extra package terminal command?
[15:35] <JabberWalkie> just follow the directions and you should do fine
[15:35] <ZykoticK9> pelo, "sudo apg-get install compiz-fusion-plugins-extra"
[15:35] <pelo> for some reason I think it's attributed to the ATI graphics card because it runs on opengl, and from what i've been hearing that's quite problematic
[15:35] <pelo> thanks, will try that now
[15:35] <kuuki> JabberWalkie,have u tried it
[15:35] <AbhiJit> this is serious please tell me
[15:36] <JabberWalkie> kuuki, yeah
[15:36] <AbhiJit> is that coffe machine thingyis real or just imagination?
[15:36] <JabberWalkie> kuuki, it works just fine
[15:36] <ZykoticK9> pelo, it's VERY likely to be an issue with ATI (though I'm not saying it is) - I don't even bother helping people with ATI issues, I view it as a waste of time personally.
[15:36] <goltoof> pelo:  ati in general is problematic, with linux.  invest in nvidia insted, if you can
[15:36] <kuuki> ok thnaks i will fight with it,jabberwalkie
[15:37] <pelo> yea, i just built the PC recently on AMD board, so dumping ATI will mean i'll have to dump the entire system if i want to run crossfire
[15:38] <Gaming4JC> Does anyone know if Midi files over 10 tracks will play in Ubuntu?
[15:38] <adub> im getting could not calculate upgrade message when trying to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10
[15:38] <Gaming4JC> See also: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10350780#post10350780 (don't ask me why they moved the topic to wine, it's irrelevant)
[15:38] <pelo> i did install the jockey-gtk drivers, perhaps that'll alleviate some trouble, if anything I can revert back to the open drivers
[15:39] <choonming> can someone take a look at this htaccess to lighttpd rule and see its correct or not? http://pastebin.com/J3XkMqXF
[15:39] <hydrian> Gaming4JC: Timidity should be able to deal with more than 10 tracks
[15:39] <choonming> im trying to convert htaccess rules to lighttypd
[15:40] <Gaming4JC> hydrian: can you confirm? I can't get it to work on my system (midi is posted in that topic)
[15:41] <abli> Hi! Is something wrong with ubuntu repositories / mirrors? I am getting 404 errors when trying to get for example http://en.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu//dists/lucid/main/i18n/Translation-en_US.bz2
[15:42] <abli> (Which, apparently aptitude would want to download when running an 'aptitude update')
[15:42] <rusty149> albi: two // in address is wrong
[15:42] <tev> mmm 404 here too
[15:42] <rusty149> albu: ubuntu/dists/lucid
[15:43] <Gaming4JC> abli: Seems to be down from here, but most of the site is up - http://en.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/
[15:43] <Gaming4JC> maybe it's a discontinued package.
[15:43] <hydrian> I know I've played 20 track midi with timidity.  Are you using Timidity++  or are using a hardware based midi playback?
[15:43] <cesar_CR> hello all, how can I disable in grub2 the quit boot ?
[15:44] <cesar_CR> quiet*
[15:44] <bl4d3runner> irc://irc.torrentvault.org:+9022.
[15:44] <goltoof> When I bootup it asks me to put in a username, it doesn't default to my user anymore.  I can't unlock the Login Screen Settings, clicking Unlock doesn't bring up the password box. When I login all that opens is the wallpaper and a small terminal.  Closing the terminal logs me out of the system. Gnome-panel doesn't even auto start, I have to enable gnome-panel, appearances and visual effects manually.  I can't alt-tab between anything or move windows with
[15:44] <goltoof> day #2
[15:44] <Gaming4JC> hydrian: I'm using Timidity from the repos. Also it plays all midi fine unless it has a certain number of tracks (tested with aplay)
[15:45] <compdoc> goltoof, you mean using vnc?
[15:45] <compdoc> or at the console?
[15:45] <goltoof> compdoc:  no, at the pc
[15:45] <ZykoticK9> goltoof, sounds like it's is logging into the xterm option instead of gnome - something that is selected after you click your username at the GDM screen, session at the bottom - be sure it is set to ubuntu-desktop
[15:45] <Guest95609> goatse.fr
[15:46] <pelo> so I downloaded the extra effects for compiz, but whenever I click the extra effects it says "searching for drivers" and I click to enable, but after opening the appearance/visual effects it's back on no effects
[15:46] <Guest95609> goatse.cx
[15:46] <sacarlson> goltoof: try create a new temp user and see if you login to that if all is well
[15:46] <Guest95609> goatse.fr
[15:46] <Gaming4JC> hydrian: Can send output of "aconnect -o" if you like.
[15:46] <goltoof> ZykoticK9:  i have no such option, at login it only lets me enter a username and pwd, doesn't default anymore
[15:46] <ZykoticK9> goltoof, for that i have no idea - good luck man.
[15:46] <Guest95609> Trу meatspin.com
[15:47] <goltoof> most curious thing is not being able to unlock Login settings, which i think is what started this
[15:47] <goltoof> besides the update
[15:47] <abli> Gaming4JC, no, it appears that of the en_* variants, en_US is missing. Did the USA go away while I was not looking?
[15:47] <kuuki> hey guys i have problem that after pressing the keys alt+ctrl+F6  my lap is not working how to return it to work
[15:47] <goltoof> ZykoticK9:  thx anyway
[15:47] <rubbs> kuuki: try alt+ctrl+f7
[15:47] <sacarlson> goltoof: or maybe something file system failed to mount?
[15:47] <Gaming4JC> !spam | Guest95609
[15:47] <researcher1> ?join/#cups
[15:47] <goltoof> sacarlson:  i'll try that as well next time i need to reboot.. i got too much work stuff open right now.
[15:48] <goltoof> but seriously, why wouldn't i be able to unlock the Login settings???  I click Unlock and the box prompting for a password doesn't open   o_0
[15:48] <kuuki> rubbs,how to do it without pressing u told key from that screen
[15:48] <goltoof> no way to change Login settings from cli?
[15:49] <compdoc> should be
[15:49] <goltoof> compdoc:  any clue what files are involved?
[15:49] <rubbs> kuuki: I'm not sure I understand that question
[15:49] <dodgy_script> anyone know a work around for netbookremix 10.10 , for watching youtube  with out proprietary stuff ?
[15:50] <compdoc> goltoof, Im think the hidden files in the home directory - but not sure which
[15:50] <goltoof> if i get back to where it's defaulting to my username that MIGHT turn things back to normal
[15:50] <kuuki> rubbs,thanks
[15:50] <sacarlson> goltoof: sounds like some theme file or something is mest up in your present /home/user account,  a new account creation will setup all defaults, if that works you can just move the defaults into your bad account or the reverse
[15:50] <rubbs> kuuki: pressing alt+ctrl+f6 takes you into a virtual console
[15:51] <rubbs> kuuki: the F7 console is where the GUI lives ;)
[15:51] <goltoof> sacarlson:  sounds like a lot of work :(
[15:51] <rusty149> goltoof: Is this a problem with auto-login?
[15:51] <sacarlson> goltoof: create an acount takes about 20 secounds
[15:51] <goltoof> goltoof:  not auto, it doesn't default anymore
[15:52] <sacarlson> goltoof: copy the defaults to old dir takes about another 2 mins
[15:52] <rusty149> goltoof: do you have to type a username?
[15:52] <kuuki> rubbs,it is also doing the same in windows
[15:52] <goltoof> sacarlson:  yes making new user, i just mean exporting all the settings to new user.  anyway, i'll have to do it later
[15:52] <goltoof> rusty149:  correct
[15:52] <goltoof> rusty149:  then the pwd
[15:52] <rubbs> kuuki: are you on a laptop at all?
[15:52] <sacarlson> goltoof: I'm not even sure that's the case you need to test it first
[15:52] <goltoof> sacarlson: o
[15:52] <rusty149> glotoof: well default home directories files should be in /etc/skel
[15:52] <Metalhurlant> Hi All good morning :)
[15:52] <goltoof> sacarlson:  ues. o
[15:52] <goltoof> ugh!
[15:53] <rusty149> goltoof: but you can do that from gconf
[15:53] <goltoof> sacarlson:  yes, thx.  i'll try that, later.  just mulling over other options
[15:53] <goltoof> cat /etc/skel
[15:53] <alionka6611> Techtronic, Ctor: esi???
[15:53] <kuuki> rubbs,present i am here by at afternoon one of my friend played that trick on my lap ....damm shocked how to do working of it normally
[15:53] <rusty149> goltoof: no, ls -la /etc/skel
[15:54] <sacarlson> goltoof: I"m just going by statistical probability when that fails then I look at what it might really be
[15:54] <rubbs> kuuki: I'm not sure then. it's possible your laptop has a function key that is getting in the way
[15:55] <kuuki> rubbs,ok thank
[15:55] <goltoof> rusty149:  what am i looking for?
[15:55] <goltoof> .profile?
[15:55] <jayb> hi guys
[15:56] <rusty149> goltoof: well you were talking about creating a new user just to copy the default files. And that is where they should be. no need for a new user.
[15:56] <jaybalance> im having with certain .nds games on my dsi, anyone care to give me a hand?
[15:56] <jaybalance> problems
[15:56] <goltoof> rusty149:  i'd like to change my login settings
[15:56] <rusty149> goltoof: I would use gconf-editor though, should be able to change settings from there
[15:57] <abli> When I get an 'untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed' warning, how can I check which repository these packages are comming from?
[15:57] <jaybalance> can anyone help me with these games jamming on loading screen of AKIAO?
[15:58] <sacarlson> rusty149: I just looked in that dir /etc/skel , seems I see more than that in a new account, but I havn't created one latly
[15:58] <goltoof> rusty149:  looking  :S
[15:58] <jaybalance> take that as a no then guys? thanks a lot
[15:59] <smallfoot-> i use 10.10, i can haz kernel 2.6.37 plz?
[15:59] <Metalhurlant> How to repair shortcut (docs, desktop, downloads) for 10.10?? They open a terminal??
[15:59] <PsycKho> Hey ! When I use 'select xxx in xxx ; do', when I made my choice, the terminal keep waiting and I still can make another choice. How do I make it go out of this waiting state?
[15:59] <goltoof> where would i find login settings in gconf?
[15:59] <rubbs> PsycKho: are you talking about mysql?
[16:00] <goltoof> *gconf-editor
[16:00] <PsycKho> rubbs : No, I'm talking about shell
[16:00] <rusty149> sacarlson: been a while since I check it. It might just be some files. it isn't neccesary to keep empty folders like Videos and Music, they can just be added. but the config files should be there
[16:00] <dylan_noktum> is there a command line email client for sending mail via gmail or hotmail or yahoo
[16:00] <goltoof> dylan_noktum:  mail
[16:01] <sacarlson> rusty149: where is the .theme dir?  is that an option?
[16:01] <DASPRiD> dylan_noktum, mutt
[16:02] <rubbs> PsycKho: you want to exit out of your loop? then "end;" is what you want. If you want to exit out of the shell, then exit is what you want. If you want to kill your current command then ctrl+c is what you want.
[16:02] <smallfoot-> i use ubuntu 10.10, i can haz kernel 2.6.37 plz?
[16:02] <PsycKho> rubbs : Thanks alot. End is what I was searching for
[16:02] <rubbs> PsycKho: np.
[16:02] <goltoof> smallfoot-:  /j #lolcode
[16:02] <rubbs> PsycKho: you may like the #bash channel too
[16:02] <rusty149> sacarlson: that is a folder that is used as default files. most things will be created or added by relevent prgrams on login. I have no specifics
[16:03] <thewanderer1> hi. how to setup a sit IPv6-in-IPV4 tunnel to tunnelbroker.net using /etc/network/interfaces ?
[16:03] <PsycKho> rubbs : I didn't know about it ! Gonna hang over there then
[16:03] <goltoof> rusty149:  any idea where i find login settings in gconf-editor.
[16:04] <thewanderer1> the command that I used to set up the tunnel was: ip tunnel add he-ipv6 mode sit remote X.X.X.X local Y.Y.Y.Y ttl 255
[16:04] <dylan_noktum> DASPRiD, how do i set up mutt?
[16:04] <thewanderer1> and I need to translate that to /etc/network/interfaces
[16:04] <tuna-fish> what was the comman to reload networking without reboot?
[16:04] <redneck05> hi
[16:04] <sacarlson> rusty149: that's what I figure when at first login some files aren't found some script goes and creates them,  I've deleted some in a working acount and when I loged back in they magicaly reapeared with default stuf
[16:04] <rubbs> PsycKho: np. glad to have helped.
[16:05] <smallfoot-> i use ubuntu 10.10, i can haz kernel 2.6.37 plz?
[16:05] <thewanderer1> smallfoot-: compile it yourself...
[16:05] <dylan_noktum> tuna-fish, sudo restart networking i think
[16:06] <redneck05> hello
[16:06] <DASPRiD> dylan_noktum, sudo apt-get install mutt
[16:06] <dylan_noktum> got it
[16:06] <smallfoot-> thewanderer1, dont want, i want it precompiled in .deb
[16:06] <tuna-fish> thanks
[16:06] <goltoof> smallfoot-:  learn to spell first please, if you're searious about asking for help
[16:06] <goltoof> *serious
[16:06] <toehio2> how do I disconnect an ssh client from my server? (he is using up a lot of bandwidth with SFTP)
[16:06] <Metalhurlant> How to repair shortcut (docs, desktop, downloads...) for gnome-panel for 10.10?? They open a terminal instead. (update)
[16:06] <smallfoot-> I am currently using Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat, and wonder if how I can upgrade to kernel version 2.6.37
[16:07] <thewanderer1> smallfoot-: why do you need specifically 2.6.37?
[16:07] <smallfoot-> thewanderer1, its newer, its better. it has ext4 improvements, no BKL, btrfs updates, etc
[16:08] <thewanderer1> smallfoot-: keep in mind that odd minor numbers (2.6.37) are less stable than even minor numbers...
[16:08] <smallfoot-> oh
[16:08] <smallfoot-> really?
[16:08] <smallfoot-> i think not in the linux kernel
[16:08] <thewanderer1> have you ever wondered why Debian only uses even version numbers? :P
[16:09] <smallfoot-> didnt know
[16:09] <smallfoot-> i thought all kernel have 1 week merge window follwed by 7-9 rc
[16:09] <Jeruvy> smallfoot-, sure but upgrading kernels is beyond the scope of the channel.
[16:10] <goltoof> no one knows where login settings are kept in gconf-editor?
[16:10] <rusty149> toehio2: The deamon starts a new process for each ssh session, you should be able to kill the process or cancel it from the client machine
[16:10] <wodi5> A question, delete stuff in \home in .ecryptfs safe for deletion  advice?
[16:10] <Jeruvy> goltoof: this is a busy channel.  Ask your question if you did not get a response and be patient :)
[16:10] <toehio2> rusty149: I don't have access to the client machine. Every time I kill the sftp process on the server, it looks like the client just starts a new one
[16:11] <thewanderer1> smallfoot-: yes, but odd version numbers are the "testing" ones while even focus on stabilization
[16:11] <sacarlson> goltoof: login settings like password?  or do you mean like .themes .bash?? .ssh ..... many more
[16:11] <mateusz> Oo
[16:11] <goltoof> Jeruvy:  fyi  !patience  is easier  :P
[16:11] <thewanderer1> smallfoot-: anyway, if you want to stay on the bleeding edge, you'll have to learn how to compile a few things
[16:11] <tagno25> Join #sparkfun
[16:12] <Jeruvy> goltoof: I know thanks.
[16:12] <goltoof> sacarlson:  no, currently i can't unlock my login settings to make it so it defaults to my username
[16:12] <RealKillaz> Hi what should I do here: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> goltoof:  you mean the 'gdm' config tool settings button?
[16:12] <RealKillaz> how can I add the public key
[16:12] <rusty149> toehio2: you can turn ssh off or temporarily disable that user account
[16:13] <goltoof> sacarlson: System > Admin > Login   nothing shows up when i hit "Unlock"
[16:13] <sacarlson> goltoof: maybe your keyring?
[16:13] <hadinux> #ubuntu-indonesia
[16:13] <goltoof> sorry, last one was for dr willis
[16:14] <sacarlson> goltoof: that sounds like the sudoer settings
[16:14] <wodi5> Is any who got that
[16:14] <wodi5> *there
[16:14] <goltoof> sacarlson:  how so?
[16:14] <UntoldEnt> Hi everyone.  Brand new user - someone set up a system before me, and then left the company. i've inherited the box.
[16:14] <MrUnagi> reverse mapping checking getaddrinfo for 184-253-183-186.pools.spcsdns.net [<IP_ADDRESS>] failed - POSSIBLE BREAK-IN ATTEMPT!..........what does this mean
[16:14] <UntoldEnt> i'm trying to set up an SVN server - following this guide:
[16:14] <UntoldEnt> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/install-subversion-with-web-access-on-ubuntu/
[16:15] <UntoldEnt> But i'm stuck at the Location bit ... not sure what to enter
[16:15] <UntoldEnt> (Location and SVNPath)
[16:15] <goltoof> Dr_Willis:  System > Admin >  Login   nothing shows up when  i hit "Unlock"
[16:15] <tev> Hi, Does anyone know where motd-update gets the env variables from? it seems to luanch before .bashrc is called.
[16:16] <NET||abuse> something weird is going on, my aptitude is constantly freezing up
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> goltoof:  your user has sudo rights? you could just do a 'gsudo whatever'
[16:16] <WaltherFI> NET||abuse: try dpkg-recopnfigure
[16:16] <NET||abuse> it'll say it's unpacking something, or stopping a service
[16:16] <NET||abuse> then it just stops responding for ages. does nothing
[16:16] <Jeruvy> wodi5, Private is the new home, and .ecrpytfs would have important config stuff and keys.
[16:16] <sacarlson> goltoof: again I'm just guessing,  can you do sudo -s ?
[16:17] <adub> is there a way to go back from a previous date before you bork something up with ubuntu
[16:17] <UntoldEnt> Can anyone help me find and enter the path to my SVN repo?
[16:17] <thewanderer1> adub: no. Nexenta OS has that, and is based on Ubuntu.
[16:17] <thewanderer1> (but it is not Linux)
[16:17] <adub> oh
[16:17] <adub> ill just reinstall
[16:17] <goltoof> sacarlson: yes
[16:18] <sacarlson> goltoof: ok then I must be wrong about that
[16:18] <goltoof> sacarlson:  npr running things sudo, i'd just like to switch login settings even though i'm not sure that'll help
[16:18] <goltoof> Dr_Willis:  yes, i got sudo rights
[16:19] <WaltherFI> have any of you heard about the HTC HD2 ubuntu 10.10 patch?
[16:20] <wodi5> Jeruvy: thanks, is the stuff in Private safe for deletion! Need more disc space (Free-space)  got a  pop-up saying you only got this size of amount left.Or is there any application that handle that like Ccleaner for the windows
[16:20] <WaltherFI> is it real ubuntu, with installable/usable packages etc, as it seems not to have unity
[16:20] <adub> is ubuntu 10.10 better than 10.04
[16:20] <adub> i know a dumb question but seriously i had fits out of 10.10 on upgrading
[16:20] <tev> when I login into a shell, I get the motd first then it shows "you have no mail" where does that get the variable from ? cause I have export MAIL set in /etc/skel/.bashrc $HOME/.bashrc but motd seems to execute before .bashrc is read.
[16:21] <thewanderer1> WaltherFI: Unity seems to need X.org composite, which mobile phones might not have support for in their display drivers
[16:21] <thewanderer1> tev: PAM?
[16:21] <WaltherFI> thewanderer1: so that's why the demo videos of it say it has 10.10 but it still uses the desktop solution from the original NBR?
[16:22] <tev> thewanderer1: mm so I have to set the MAIL variable in PAM? :/
[16:22] <thewanderer1> WaltherFI: I was just guessing, it might not be the reason
[16:22] <DJCharlie> morning all. quick question: i'm working on a bash script to calculate the length of an mp3 file, and i've goten it to where it calculates the total seconds (example: 225.55 seconds long). how can i convert that to minutes:seconds format?
[16:22] <thewanderer1> tev: you should probably revise your PAM config and tweak it to your need
[16:23] <organise> hi just wondering how can i'd like to setup ubuntu onto a machine but would like it to behave a bit like a live cd i.e. nothing's saved to the hard drive the system restores itself to the original settings
[16:23] <organise> how can i do this?
[16:23] <thewanderer1> DJCharlie: uhm. ever heard of modulo?
[16:23] <tev> mmm seems odd.
[16:23] <DJCharlie> thewanderer1: no, can't say i have. got an example?
[16:24] <goltoof> :(
[16:24] <r3in> magick
[16:24] <Travis-42> Hi, I can't get Ubuntu to empty my trash there is one file it says "there was an error deleting" each time. There is nothing in /home/myusername/.local/share/Trash/files
[16:24] <r3in> doesnt exist
[16:24] <r3in> ?
[16:24] <r3in> =/
[16:24] <Jeruvy> wodi5: I would stick toremoving stuff in your private folder then.
[16:24] <thewanderer1> DJCharlie: echo $[21%2]; ringing any bells?
[16:24] <DJCharlie> organise: very interesting idea!
[16:24] <thewanderer1> DJCharlie: if not, find out what modulo is (Wikipedia is your friend) and you'll have an idea when you do
[16:25] <tev> thewanderer1: /etc/login.defs
[16:25] <thewanderer1> tev: good, glad you found it
[16:26] <vcarney> I just had Rackspace upgrade to <IP_ADDRESS> kernel. i then upgraded to Lucid 10.04. getty has subsequently gone crazy and is filling up the syslog every second. See http://dpaste.com/313426/ for example syslog error message. Thanks! :)
[16:26]  * go^ Anyone has 2 videocard on laptop and can choose which one to use? Qualcuno ha due schede video sul portatile e riesce a scegliere con Linux quale delle due usare? (io Intel+ATi) [amsg]
[16:27] <Pici> go^: Please don't send amsgs.
[16:27] <DrMrHorse> when i try to use startup disk creator, i am able to select the iso with the dialog, but it doesnt appear so i cant create the disk. any ideas?
[16:28] <vcarney> can anybody help my tty issue. init: tty3 main process (30601) terminated with status 1 -- init: tty3 main process ended, respawning
[16:28] <WaltherFI> DrMrHorse: select the partition, not the drive
[16:28] <DrMrHorse> WaltherFI: kk
[16:28] <rusty149> DrMrHorse: Is it an Ubuntu image?
[16:28] <DrMrHorse> rusty149: yes
[16:28] <vcarney> it is filling up syslog quickly
[16:28] <tagno25> Join #sparkun
[16:28] <WaltherFI> DrMrHorse: stupidly enough, for a usb stick that has only one partition, it still shows the partition and the disk separately and you have to pick from the list
[16:28] <nickoe> okay
[16:28] <jrib> tagno25: please do not do that
[16:28] <DrMrHorse> didnt work
[16:29] <DrMrHorse> it wont let me select the iso
[16:29] <maxster> hey free shit for anyone who joins #sparkfun
[16:29] <popey> !ops maxster
[16:29] <WaltherFI> DrMrHorse: is the .iso file corrupted?
[16:29] <popey> bah
[16:29] <rusty149> DrMrHorse: MAximise window to see entire window
[16:29] <DrMrHorse> rusty149: no go
[16:29] <DrMrHorse> WaltherFI: lemmie md5 it
[16:30] <jrib> maxster: do not do that here
[16:30] <c0ld> how do I pipe a list "Discovered open port 23/tcp on <IP_ADDRESS>" into a file to look like "<IP_ADDRESS>:23"?
[16:30] <maxster> jrib sorry, just a joke
[16:30] <maxster> no one gets it
[16:30] <acicula> c0ld: you need to parse the output
[16:30] <Tm_T> maxster: this is not a place for jokes, see channel topic
[16:30] <WaltherFI> maxster: Sorry, but this is a support channel
[16:31] <acicula> you could do it with awk or python
[16:31] <gobbe> c0ld: you use awk for that
[16:31] <c0ld> never used awk I dont see how it would give me that result
[16:32] <gobbe> c0ld: there's quite many awk howtos available, but generally awk + print + $x $y
[16:32] <karthick87> Is there any watermark program available in ubuntu???
[16:33] <popey> karthick87: imagemagick
[16:33] <popey> karthick87: e.g. http://www.selonen.org/arto/netbsd/watermarks.html
[16:33] <BluesKaj> go^, the only method I know is to choose the graphics card in the BIOS
[16:33] <DJCharlie> thewanderer1: sorry, just can't wrap my head around modulo. the main problem i'm getting is the fact that my sample is 225.55 seconds. the .55 is throwing me off.
[16:33] <DrMrHorse> iso is screwed, thanks guys
[16:33] <go^> BluesKaj, can't do it with my BIOS :(
[16:34] <BluesKaj> go^, why not ?
[16:34] <WaltherFI> DrMrHorse: try torrenting it, and get the .torrent from ubuntu.com
[16:34] <DrMrHorse> WaltherFI: im way ahead of you :)
[16:35] <go^> BluesKaj, hasn't this options...my bios hasn't options about videocards (I've got HP DV6 3114 SL)
[16:35] <WaltherFI> DrMrHorse: hm? in terms of what, i'd like to know
[16:35] <DrMrHorse> im already torrenting it
[16:35] <DrMrHorse> any other areas i cant comment on
[16:35] <acicula> go^: switcheroo or gpuswitcheroo does what you want
[16:35] <karthick87> popey: Thankyou, but i want the watermark to be placed in middle of the image..How?
[16:35] <acicula> !switcheroo
[16:35] <BluesKaj> go^, check peripherals in the BIOS , it should list them
[16:35] <tev> thewanderer1: something is very wrong with /etc/pam.conf and /etc/login.defs
[16:35] <popey> karthick87: I suspect that guide will help you
[16:36] <go^> acicula, do you mean VGA_switcheroo kernel module? it doesn't work :(
[16:36] <tev> in /etc/pam.conf it states that the variable is read from /etc/login.defs
[16:36] <acicula> go^: thats the one
[16:36] <tev> but I still get "you have no mail" message when I login
[16:36] <nsgn> hello. i've got a laptop running 10.10. one day booting it up it just halts at "uncompresson error" immediately after the bootloader
[16:36] <acicula> go^: what does not work, and what hardware are you using
[16:37] <nsgn> no updates were installed at this time, the machine was not physically dropped and the hard drive does not appear to be operating abnormally nor making any bad sounds. what may have caused this?
[16:37] <WaltherFI> Slightly offtopic, but any tablets with capacitive screen that runs / installs Ubuntu available?
[16:37] <go^> Intel (on i3 CPU) and ATI (mobility radeon 5470 HD)
[16:37] <go^> acicula, vga_switcheroo kernel module doesn't work..doesn't switch
[16:38] <acicula> what does happen
[16:38] <nsgn> trying previous kernels still results in "uncompression error"
[16:38] <WaltherFI> nsgn: at grub, click edit line and remove the "quiet splash" for more output
[16:38] <JuJuBee> I aquired a rack mount server (older P3 1.2Ghz w/ 1.5GB RAM 36G SCSI HD) and I want to let my kids play with it.  What version should I install?
[16:38] <organise> hi just wondering how can i'd like to setup ubuntu onto a machine but would like it to behave a bit like a live cd i.e. nothing's saved to the hard drive the system restores itself to the original settings
[16:38] <edbian> JuJuBee: How old are your kids?  Can they handle CLI only?
[16:38] <acicula> JuJuBee: given it has plenty of ram any ubuntu-server edition will work
[16:39] <Jeruvy> nsgn: could be a hardware issue, run memtest and then use livecd to check the hard disk.
[16:39] <JuJuBee> High School Seniors, and yes cli is fine
[16:39] <JuJuBee> acicula: only 1.5 GB RAM
[16:39] <nsgn> Jeruvy, did so. it still hits absolutely nothing but that screen
[16:39] <edbian> JuJuBee: Then just the standard ubuntu server ought to do it.
[16:39] <edbian> JuJuBee: Let them install it
[16:39] <acicula> JuJuBee: yeah thats quite a lot if yoou do not run guis/browsers or media players
[16:40] <JuJuBee> OK
[16:40] <nsgn> Jeruvy, and memtest wont even start from the install. it just hits an insta-reboot
[16:40] <acicula> JuJuBee: or at least a lot if all you are doing is some http/lamp/sql experimenting
[16:40] <pavanai> anybody kno hw to setup ./adb
[16:40] <nsgn> i wish it would give me feedback on what type of hardware issue this is
[16:40] <Jeruvy> nsgn: that is a bad sign.
[16:40] <bencahill> hey guys, could i write a script to ignore middle click duplicates?
[16:40] <nsgn> Jeruvy, sign of what though?
[16:40] <nsgn> i just want to know what to target
[16:41] <WaltherFI> nsgn: again, click edit on the grub and remove "quiet splash"
[16:41] <WaltherFI> nsgn: it'll give more output
[16:41] <Jeruvy> nsgn: well it sounds like your hard disk is dying/dead.
[16:41] <nsgn> WaltherFI, again, as stated above, i did that. it gives no more feedback
[16:41] <WaltherFI> Jeruvy: or memory
[16:41] <pavanai> i cd to android tools dir then typed ./adb it says taht no such command
[16:41] <WaltherFI> nsgn: boot from livecd and try that memtest
[16:41] <tev> Does anyone know if MAIL in /etc/login.defs supports Maildir?
[16:41] <Jeruvy> WaltherFI; or memory, or fsb... :)
[16:41] <WaltherFI> nsgn: if it runs fine, your memory is ok and mobo etc also
[16:42] <edbian> bencahill: That would be really hard unless you modified the mouse driver.  If you stay out of the driver you'd have to figure out what the double click did and then undo it everytime.
[16:42] <nsgn> WaltherFI, yeah. i'll do that. burning out a 10.10 right now
[16:42] <Jeruvy> nsgn: I thought you said you ran livecd and no go...
[16:43] <nsgn> Jeruvy, no. i've removed quiet splash, tried various kernels at boot menu and tried memtest from boot menu. all from hard drive. all fail. burning out livecd right now
[16:43] <ne2k> bencahill: what is a middle click duplicate?
[16:43] <bencahill> edbian: The problem is that the mouse has a hardware problem, and unless you are very very careful when middle-clicking, you will often get two or three clicks almost instantly (I only middle-click in ff, so it only really needs to be fixed for that)
[16:43] <edbian> ne2k: He middle clicks twice in a row on accident
[16:43] <Jeruvy> nsgn: sounds good.
[16:43] <bencahill> ne2k: see above ^^
[16:43] <WaltherFI> Any capacitive tablets/pads available that run/install Ubuntu?
[16:44] <ne2k> bencahill: get a better mouse ;-)
[16:44] <edbian> bencahill: Can you change the settings in System -> Preferences for double click speed?  Will that help?
[16:44] <bencahill> ne2k: this one's great for what I do...
[16:44] <tev> Does anyone know if MAIL in /etc/login.defs supports Maildir?
[16:44] <bencahill> edbian: let me check, but i don't think that would affect middle mouse, and not affect opening multiple tabs when clicking on a link...
[16:44] <ne2k> bencahill: I presume you're talking about emulating the accessibility feature in windows that allows you to ignore repeated key and mouse presses within a certain time? this would be a useful thing to have in xinput
[16:45] <edbian> bencahill: That gui is the easiest way to edit the driver (obviously it's very limiting)
[16:45] <bencahill> ne2k: yes, if it could ignore repeated presses, in say, an 1/8th of a second, that would do the trick
[16:45] <ne2k> bencahill: wherever dwell click and so on are managed, that would be the place to write the feature
[16:46] <bencahill> edbian: what gui?
[16:46] <ghisen|home> Hi, I got black screen on boot today after some updates yesterday... viewing the log file i can see that xorg was updated... i tried to reset the xorg.conf without sucess... any ideas what i should do?
[16:46] <karthick87> How to convert .mkv format to .avi?
[16:46] <bencahill> edbian: oh, system > preferences > mouse ?
[16:46] <edbian> bencahill: yeah
[16:46] <ne2k> karthick87: try avidemux
[16:46] <bencahill> edbian: ah
[16:47] <bencahill> edbian, ne2k: I suppose since my problem is only with ff, I'll jump over there to see if they have any suggestions :)
[16:47] <barabashka> hi. How I can show my swap?
[16:47] <appleswitch> Should I use NTFS for my Deja-Vu / Back In Time backup drive, or would it be safer to use Ext4? I'm worried about the complex hardlinking.
[16:47] <edbian> bencahill: perhaps you can mess with some settings in firefox
[16:47] <ne2k> bencahill: ah, right. yes, if it's application specific then it can probably be fixed in that application
[16:48] <ne2k> bencahill: however, I suspect the feature you mentioned would be of use to people with certain types of disabilities, so if you fancy writing it, I'm sure it could be included
[16:48] <bencahill> ne2k: it's not app specific, but ff is the only place i middle click (open link in new tab)
[16:48] <rubbs> barabashka: by show do you mean show how much you have left?
[16:48] <bencahill> ne2k: well, i've never programmed (unless php counts) :)
[16:48] <ne2k> bencahill: why not just control+left click instead?
[16:48] <edbian> bencahill: php counts, basic does not
[16:48] <bencahill> ne2k: it's easier
[16:48] <ne2k> bencahill: php and basic both count, but not much ;-)
[16:49] <bencahill> ne2k: yeah ;)
[16:49] <edbian> bencahill: you could make anything open links in a new tab in ff.  Maybe there is some other mouse button you could you or something
[16:49] <ne2k> bencahill: the best thing to do would be to write an extension that stops a tab being opened if there is already a tab with the same URL in it
[16:49] <bencahill> edbian: well, this mouse only has three :)
[16:49] <bencahill> ne2k: yes, that would do the trick perfectly
[16:49] <edbian> bencahill: :)
[16:50] <ne2k> bencahill: call it "coalesce tabs"
[16:50] <appleswitch> Should I use NTFS for my Deja-Vu / Back In Time backup drive, or would it be safer to use Ext4? I'm worried about the complex hardlinking.
[16:50] <nsgn> *sigh* if only the mirrors could put out at more than 1.46MBps
[16:50] <nvidubu> ehlo
[16:50] <bencahill> ne2k: okay, I'll see if I can do that, and if I have any probs, I'll jump on the ff channel, as it's kind of ot here :D
[16:50] <nvidubu> anybody have NVIDIA GeForce GT 540M?
[16:51] <ne2k> bencahill: I would suggest that you give some sort of visual feedback (such as pulsing the existing tab
[16:51] <bencahill> nsgn: *sigh* if only I had more d/l than 1Mbps (yes, 1Mb, or 128KB)
[16:51] <ne2k> bencahill: flashing the existing tab, rather than just silently ignoring it
[16:51] <bencahill> ne2k: yes, good point
[16:51] <rubbs> appleswitch: if it hardlinks, I'd suggest Ext4. I'm not sure NTFS supports hardlinking.
[16:52] <appleswitch> rubbs: Thanks
[16:52] <nsgn> bencahill, hah. ouch
[16:52] <ghisen|home> Hi, I got black screen on boot today after some updates yesterday... viewing the log file i can see that xorg was updated... i tried to reset the xorg.conf without sucess... any ideas what i should do?
[16:53] <nsgn> bencahill, what ISP?
[16:53] <rubens_> x
[16:53] <pLr> ghisen|home: change ur xorg driver to vesa u can get a desktop back for now.. troubleshoot more from there
[16:54] <rubbs> appleswitch: np. You may want to check the manpages too, Back in Time might specify that it needs a certain FS type.
[16:54] <Gaming4JC> !x | ghisen|home
[16:54] <ne2k> bencahill: I remember spending twenty minutes downloading a 200kB image from a BBS on my 2400 baud modem
[16:55] <Sengoku> Hey, i can't fullscreen any flash-based videos (ie. youtube) without the plugin crashing
[16:55] <thewanderer1> Sengoku: everyone has the same problem... bug Adobe about that :P
[16:55] <ghisen|home> pLr, i guees i have to
[16:55] <rusty149_> Sengoku: Is it the 64-bit plugin?
[16:55] <rubens_> x
[16:55] <appleswitch> rubbs: Thanks! Just found a nice blurb "Starting from version 0.9.24 permissions and user/group are stored in a special file.
[16:55] <appleswitch> Looks like I can use anything.
[16:55] <hydrian> ne2k: 200k image file over 2400kbp?  That's gotta be high-res porn back in the day.
[16:55] <Sengoku> rusty149_: 32
[16:56] <appleswitch> Well, except FAT
[16:56] <Gaming4JC> When are they going to implement Shockwave alternative for Ubuntu? :)
[16:56] <Sengoku> thewanderer1: really?
[16:56] <Enekk> exit
[16:56] <MarcWeber> Today I tried the the live  / installlation cd (10.10). However I got tar input / output errors. also firefox segfaulted
[16:56] <sam16> wats is the difference is  kde from gnome? which is better?
[16:56] <MarcWeber> I've no clue what was causing it .. Any idea?
[16:56] <hacksp3> No es bueno que todo suceda como deseamos. Cuando todo nos sonríe en el mundo, nos apegamos a éste muy fácilmente y el encanto es muy fuerte. Por eso, y porque Dios nos ama, no permite que durmamos mucho y muy cómodamente en este lugar de destierro.
[16:56] <hydrian> Gaming4JC: Probably never.  There's not enough market it in on Windows, let alone Linux
[16:56] <edbian> sam16: they look vastly different.  Which one is better is a matter of opinion
[16:56] <thewanderer1> Sengoku: about 10% of users can use fullscreen Flash properly, and it's pretty random, so don't be surprised
[16:57] <Sengoku> everyone in this channel can't fullscreen youtube videos?
[16:57] <Sengoku> ohhh
[16:57] <nvidubu> sam16: kde sucks
[16:57] <rubens_> join #ubuntu-br
[16:57] <bencahill> ne2k: i'm only old enough to remember 56k modems (and sometimes slightly less connection speed), which I always remembered as 15MB/hr, iirc
[16:57] <Sengoku> nvidubu: kde3.5 wins
[16:57] <IdleOne> !es | hacksp3
[16:57] <rubbs> appleswitch: good to know. I might take a look at it again...
[16:57] <edbian> sam16: many people believe KDE is great.
[16:57] <rubens_> #join ubuntu-br
[16:57] <ne2k> hydrian: it was a BMP so it wasn't very high res. there was only one booby visible too
[16:57] <bencahill> Sengoku: you can use vlc to play youtube
[16:57] <IdleOne> rubens_: /join #ubuntu-br
[16:57] <Gaming4JC> !desktop | sam16
[16:58] <IdleOne> !ot | ne2k hydrian
[16:58] <Gaming4JC> Gnome rocks
[16:58] <Gaming4JC> :D
[16:58] <sam16> edbian : thanks man ... but whch is faster?
[16:58] <rubens_> ok
[16:58] <ne2k> IdleOne: riiight
[16:58] <edbian> sam16: gnome is probably slightly faster.  Not a significant difference in my opinion though
[16:58] <rusty149> Sengoku on a 32-bit machine?
[16:58] <BluesKaj> Sengoku, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:58] <nsgn> whoooa. ok. booting live cd gives "uncompression error". wtf
[16:58] <sam16> yup thanks dude
[16:58] <Gaming4JC> sam16: Xfce or Lxde is fastest
[16:59] <Gaming4JC> sam16: Then gnome, and slowest due to graphics is KDE
[16:59] <ne2k> KDE is extremely horrid in a large number of ways
[16:59] <thewanderer1> (note: LXDE is many times lighter and faster than XFCE)
[16:59] <edbian> ne2k: that's your opinion
[16:59] <ne2k> edbian: it is
[16:59] <nsgn> AHAHA and its totally totally flunking memtest. wow
[16:59] <Gaming4JC> sam16: Ultimate Edition 2.7 has all of them to try, you might want to download the LiveDVD just to test.
[16:59] <nsgn> this laptop is screwed
[16:59] <nvidubu> kde is for n00bs
[17:00] <Sengoku> BluesKaj: i have installed restricted extras
[17:00] <BluesKaj> Gaming4JC, yeah it's acouple of millisecs slower than xfce :)
[17:00] <Sengoku> rusty149: i don't follow sorry
[17:00] <sam16> ok
[17:00] <hydrian> I loved kde 3.5, but they did WAY too much backtracking in kde 4.x. They are still making up functionality.
[17:00] <Sengoku> bencahill: what's this about vlc youtube?
[17:00] <ne2k> nvidubu: you could argue that Ubuntu is for noobs. real men use OpenBSD
[17:00] <nvidubu> ne2k: lol
[17:01] <nvidubu> or lfs
[17:01] <Gaming4JC> Sengoku: VLC with youtube? blech, use XBMC and watch in style. :)
[17:01] <optik> ok quick question, i cant access my windows file shares on my windows 7 pc, i have password file sharing off, but it asks for a password anyways, so i put it in and it just keeps asking me for it, any ideas?
[17:01] <thewanderer1> Sengoku: there's a client, called `minitube`, that plays YouTube videos natively without needing Flash - it's nice as well
[17:01] <BluesKaj> ne2k, yeah and real men wear hair shirts :)
[17:01] <bencahill> Sengoku: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CBcQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Flifehacker.com%2F5577212%2Fplay-youtube-videos-directly-in-vlc-media-player&ei=3C8vTfPBCcSt8AbTr4TQCQ&usg=AFQjCNGkMszoZVJUESkM5hmuvdxTSVyvXQ&sig2=36sc6KVSYlrUSvz7mcQLNg
[17:01] <ne2k> BluesKaj: and have spines all over their heads and play ukuleles
[17:01] <bencahill> Sengoku: sorry, google link, here's a better one: http://lifehacker.com/5577212/play-youtube-videos-directly-in-vlc-media-player
[17:02] <BluesKaj> Gaming4JC, XMBC is just a bloat
[17:02] <nsgn> Jeruvy, yeah. its completely and horribly flunking memtest from the CD. wouldnt boot live
[17:02] <rusty149> optik: is this a samba share from ubuntu?
[17:02] <nsgn> its failing like...every single thing. not a single good reading from the ram
[17:02] <Gaming4JC> BluesKaj: Well, partially depending on the skin you use.
[17:02] <nsgn> sounds like a motherboard issue
[17:02] <Gaming4JC> Plays everything though.
[17:02] <Jeruvy> nsgn: sorry to hear.
[17:02] <Gaming4JC> Python ^^_
[17:02] <thewanderer1> nsgn: Linux kernel can avoid broken memory regions via badram patch
[17:03] <nsgn> well this is ALL bad
[17:03] <nvidubu> i thinking about asus n53sv
[17:03] <Sengoku> bencahill: i guess that works.. kind of annoying but i guess it'll do.. I need something for megavideo too, and all other flash based videos
[17:03] <optik> rusty149: no its from windows 7
[17:03] <thewanderer1> but if you can actually afford fixing hardware issues, do so :P
[17:03] <nvidubu> this new sandy bridge platform looks nice
[17:03] <nsgn> Jeruvy, well its not mine. its my assistant's. sorry for her ;P
[17:03] <nsgn> my little dell is running just fine
[17:03] <nsgn> i'm going to tell her to buy another
[17:03] <rusty149> optik: If you are asking about a Windows share for a windows client this is the wrong place.
[17:03] <optik> rusty149: im trying to access it on ubuntu
[17:03] <MacManDan> Where can I get help with Wine?  I keep trying to install from a CD but I always get problems.
[17:03] <nsgn> this computer is 3 years old and a really low end machine. not worth attempted repairs
[17:04] <rusty149> optik: OK
[17:04] <Sengoku> oh yeah that's another problem i have, i can't access windows shares with samba
[17:04] <bencahill> Sengoku: see this: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/50771
[17:04] <thewanderer1> nvidubu: the guys in ##hardware know much about stuff in general, might want to ask there
[17:04] <Jeruvy> nsgn: well replacing memory is a cheap and easy solution.  Wouldn't hurt to try it.
[17:04] <edbian> MacManDan: #winehq   also, google "wine" and your game's name.  There is likely a page about it on the wine website.
[17:04] <edbian> MacManDan: What program are you trying to run in wine?
[17:04] <MacManDan> Oka.  Thank you.
[17:05] <rusty149> optik: run, sudo smbclient -L windowspcname
[17:05] <Sean93> what does this mean on boot? "piix4_smbus 000:00:07.3: host SMBus controller not enabled!"
[17:05] <MacManDan> I am trying to install from CD's.  I get error about exe bit.  I cannot set exe bit because read only.  Copy file to HD and try and it says files needed cannot be found.
[17:05] <Sengoku> bencahill: that would be cool! It says "file could not be found"
[17:05] <Gaming4JC> MacManDan: WineHQ, use the PPA mentioned on the official site for cutting edge release. :)
[17:05] <thewanderer1> Sengoku: if you want to watch online TV, you might want to try a cryogenic chamber... enter for 20 years, exit when the format/media wars are over and you'll either be able to watch all content in open formats or be forced to Windows with DRM anyway - problem gone in either case
[17:05] <Gaming4JC> 1.3.11 for teh win.
[17:05] <edbian> MacManDan: What program is it
[17:06] <bencahill> Sengoku: i don't know any more about it, and it's ot, just a thought! :)
[17:06] <MacManDan> Old Carmen Sandiego game.
[17:06] <Gaming4JC> MacManDan: Depends if it's DOS, I have some real classics which work in DosBox
[17:06] <edbian> MacManDan: ah ok.  Yeah ask in the wine channel, they'll be more helpful
[17:06] <bencahill> MacManDan: oh man we loved those :)
[17:06] <Sengoku> bencahill: it's trying to use Totem player though
[17:07] <bencahill> Sengoku: you can change the prefs, bottom right, but seriously ot
[17:07] <goltoof> what's the command to convert youtube .flv files to .avi.  i know to use ffmpeg, just wondering if someone knew the full command
[17:07] <Sengoku> ot?
[17:07] <edbian> off topic
[17:07] <MacManDan> I have almost all Carmen Sandiego games DOS and Windows.  Best games ever developed.  Well my opinion.
[17:07] <Sengoku> oh sorry
[17:07] <optik> rusty149:Unable to create directory /var/run/samba for file gencache.tdb. Error was No such file or directory
[17:07] <optik> session setup failed: SUCCESS - 0
[17:07] <goltoof> ?
[17:07] <goltoof>  ot?
[17:07] <goltoof> i use ubuntu :)
[17:07] <bencahill> MacManDan: oh yeah!
[17:07] <Gaming4JC> MacManDan: I know right? ^_^
[17:08] <optik> rusty149: wow i feel dumb now, i could have swore samba was installed
[17:08] <Gaming4JC> MacManDan: Be sure to check AppDB. Lot of info there on applications which are known to work (or not) in Wine.
[17:09] <MacManDan> Will check out WineDB.  Thanks for the assist.
[17:09] <rusty149> optik: yeah, just do sudo apt-get install samba
[17:09] <MacManDan> AppDB that is.
[17:10] <Gaming4JC> MacManDan: No problem. Also if you find a bug, try reporting them it always helps. Just run wine from terminal ... cd to game directory and wine "foo.exe".
[17:10] <Gaming4JC> :)
[17:10] <Gaming4JC> Speaking of bugs...
[17:10] <Sengoku> bencahill: where would be an appropriate place to get this sorted?
[17:10] <bencahill> MacManDan: oh, one more thing, look up WINEPREFIX's, always a good thing to have
[17:10] <Gaming4JC> midi bug! http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10350780#post10350780 (at least for me)
[17:11] <bencahill> Sengoku: I don't know, but I'd try google
[17:12] <ds4h> pasaka
[17:12] <Gaming4JC> bencahill: Since you use ubuntu and wine, would you care to confirm? Wine doesn't think it's their problem
[17:14] <bencahill> Gaming4JC: confirm what now? midi bug? i missed it :)
[17:14] <Gaming4JC> bencahill: Yes, midi bug. :)
[17:16] <bencahill> Gaming4JC: what v of wine?
[17:16] <Tsims> Can someone help me? Im having nvidia troubles.
[17:16] <bencahill> !ask | tsims
[17:16] <Aragon6980> Tsims what's de matter ?
[17:17] <Gaming4JC> bencahill: Currently I'm running 1.3.11, doesn't matter though since I haven't been able to get it to work as of 1.1.38
[17:17] <bencahill> Gaming4JC: ok, me too :)
[17:17] <bencahill> Gaming4JC: what would/do i need to test it?
[17:18] <DaGeek247> 1550 pplz!
[17:18] <Gaming4JC> bencahill: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=21714#c14
[17:18] <Tsims> Something is wrong with my nvidia driver. I cant access xconfig, I cant change any of the graphics settings, and under additional drivers, i am unable to activate the proprietary drivers.  It just shows the window that says "downloading and installing driver," then the window just closes and nothing activates
[17:19] <oab> Hi. Is there someone here that can give me a hand on installing some canon drivers? The drivers is listed here
[17:19] <oab> http://software.canon-europe.com/products/0010670.asp
[17:19] <Sean93> i have tried 2 different thumb drives and neither are detected, they dont show up in syslog
[17:20] <bencahill> Gaming4JC: i'll read up, and post on the forums later
[17:20] <Gaming4JC> bencahill: Thanks. :)
[17:20] <bencahill> Gaming4JC: np :)
[17:20]  * Gaming4JC afk lunch
[17:20] <JabberWalkie_> Tsims, you can access the X config file from the console....
[17:20] <bencahill> Sean93: using any hubs?
[17:20] <BluesKaj> Tsims, are you talking about the recommended driver or ?
[17:21] <Tsims> yeah i guess so
[17:21] <Sean93> bencahill, no, i dont think so
[17:21] <bencahill> Sean93: if there is a light on the drive, does it come on?
[17:21] <JabberWalkie_> Tsims, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[17:21] <Sean93> bencahill, yes
[17:21] <JabberWalkie_> just change the display drivers back to something that will work
[17:21] <graingert> hey a lot of my repositories are getting "BAD_SIG"
[17:21] <Tsims> "NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version current) [Recommended]
[17:22] <bencahill> Sean93: when plugged in, paste output of sudo fdisk -l
[17:22] <YawningAngel> Can anyone tell me how to use a graphics driver that isn't in the repo?
[17:22] <graingert> W: An error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com maverick Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192 Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[17:22] <BluesKaj> Tsims, you can't guess , in the nvidia settings gui there's a recommended driver which you must click on and install.
[17:22] <Sean93> bencahill, can't, im using a different computer to talk to you
[17:23] <Tsims> yeah i know that, when i activate it nothing happens
[17:23] <bencahill> Sean93: o_o can you just run it and look at what it says? that gives you info on all fs
[17:23] <Tsims> and when i run xorg -configure in terminal i get this: Fatal server error:
[17:23] <Tsims> Server is already active for display 0
[17:23] <Tsims> 	If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock
[17:23] <Tsims> 	and start again.
[17:23] <Tsims> Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
[17:23] <Tsims> 	 at http://wiki.x.org
[17:23] <FloodBot3> Tsims: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:23] <Sean93> bencahill, ok, one min
[17:24] <freeLilBoosie> anyone here
[17:24] <rusty149> oab: I think this is it, http://files.canon-europe.com/files/soft40355/software/o1113enx_l_ufr220.zip  did it work out-of-the-box
[17:24] <YawningAngel> Only 1557 of them
[17:25] <YawningAngel> Anyone able to tell me how to use a graphics driver version that isn't in the repo?
[17:27] <Sean93> bencahill, it doesn't show up
[17:28] <oab> I am new to both Ubuntu and Linux, so please instruct me if I am supposed to post somewhere else. I downloaded the drivers for my printer at this link: http://software.canon-europe.com/products/0010670.asp However, after I downloaded and unpacked the package from Canon, neither does Synaptic, Archive Manager or the printer gui recognize the content inside so that the drivers can be installed. I ca
[17:28] <oab> lled Canon, and after some minutes on the phone they couldn't help me as they said they didn't have any support for Linux. However, on their webpage, it says that the driver is compatible and tested on Ubuntu. Then my question is, what am I doing wrong since I am not able to install it. I have used Synaptic, Archive Manager and Wine to install several programs already. I am not experienced...
[17:28] <oab> ...in Terminal, so I try to avoid it yet so I don't mess up the OS before I am able to also revers and fix the errors I make in that case. Can anyone help me with how to install the drivers? Thanks in advance.
[17:28] <bencahill> Sean93: i dunno then, that's quite weird, probably means the drive/port is dead...have you tried the drive in another computer or another drive in the usb port
[17:28] <FloodBot3> oab: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:28] <Tsims> if i wanted to run "nvidia-xconfig" as a root, what would i need to input in the terminal
[17:28] <Ericounet> emme
[17:28] <YawningAngel> Tsims
[17:28] <YawningAngel> Sudo nvidia-xconfig
[17:28] <YawningAngel> erm
[17:28] <YawningAngel> lies
[17:28] <YawningAngel> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[17:28] <FloodBot3> YawningAngel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:28] <Guest34453> kiran
[17:28] <YawningAngel> Then you'd need to input your password
[17:29] <rusty149> oab: what printer is it?
[17:29] <Tsims> it keeps telling me that command isnt found..
[17:29] <switch10_> Tsims: is that a gui?  If so use gksudo instead of sudo
[17:29] <Guest34453> hello may i know the location for the address of the packages are stored
[17:29] <Sean93> bencahill, i have tried 2 different drives in different ports and both drive are working on other pcs
[17:29] <Guest34453> ie
[17:29] <Tsims> gksudo nvidia-xconfig
[17:29] <Guest34453> pls anyoe
[17:29] <oab> rusty149: it is a multifunction printer from Canon, called i-Sensys MF8450.
[17:29] <bencahill> Sean93: have you tried other drives in the same port?
[17:29] <Guest34453> hello anyone
[17:30] <bencahill> Guest34453: what are you trying to find out?
[17:30] <Gaming4JC> !ask | Guest34453
[17:30] <Sean93> bencahill, yes, none work
[17:30] <thewanderer1> Sean93: what are the "drives" you're mentioning? flash memory pendrives? do you see them getting power input i.e. a power LED?
[17:30]  * Gaming4JC returns :)
[17:31] <bencahill> Sean93: well then the ports are obviously bad
[17:31] <bencahill> s/ports/port/
[17:31] <Sean93> thewanderer1, yes, pen drivesm and they are getting power
[17:31] <bencahill> Gaming4JC: lol, that was fast :)
[17:31] <Guest34453> bencahill:means i wannn know the file that contain the address location of the packages
[17:31] <Gaming4JC> yes, quick eater :P
[17:31] <thewanderer1> Sean93: what do you get in `dmesg` when you plug them in?
[17:31] <WaltherFI> Sean93: do they mount?
[17:32] <Sean93> WaltherFI, no
[17:32] <bencahill> Guest34453: why?
[17:32] <WaltherFI> Sean93: try mount -a
[17:32] <Gaming4JC> !packages | Guest34453
[17:32] <Sean93> WaltherFI, just mount -a, nothing else?
[17:32] <Guest34453> ya
[17:32] <WaltherFI> Sean93: well sudo obviously
[17:32] <Guest34453> ya
[17:33] <Guest34453> but when i failed to access them through synaptic and other
[17:33] <bencahill> Guest34453: see this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
[17:33] <bencahill> Guest34453: connected to the internet?
[17:33] <Guest34453> thus if i could know the file that contain  these information
[17:33] <oab> rusty149: I downloaded the package from Canon that is supposed to be the Linux drivers, but the problem is that there is nothing inside that I can run to install the drivers.
[17:33] <Guest34453> i'll
[17:34] <WaltherFI> Sean93: if it works, fine, if it doesn't it'll probably show some debug output
[17:34] <bencahill> Guest34453: did you read the previous ^^ link?
[17:34] <WaltherFI> oab: install file?
[17:34] <bencahill> !details | Guest34453
[17:34] <Guest34453> ya
[17:34] <Guest34453> i red
[17:34] <Gaming4JC> ?
[17:35] <bencahill> ?
[17:35] <Gaming4JC> !enter | Guest34453
[17:35] <oab> WaltherFI: yes, a file that either Synaptic or Archive Manager can recognize and install.
[17:35] <bencahill> Gaming4JC: thx for that, didn't know that one :)
[17:35] <Gaming4JC> :)
[17:35] <Gaming4JC> bencahill: http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi
[17:35] <Gaming4JC> :D
[17:35] <WaltherFI> oab: no i meant, that does the folder contain file called installl
[17:35] <bencahill> Gaming4JC: yeah, i know :D
[17:35] <WaltherFI> oab: if it does, try sudo ./install
[17:35] <WaltherFI> oab: in that folder
[17:36] <gizmobay> I need to do a NFS share. Can I put a wild card for the IP in the /etc/exports file (192.168.0.*)?
[17:36] <Sean93> WaltherFI, it doesn't show anything
[17:36] <WaltherFI> Sean93: plug a drive in, then dmesg
[17:36] <WaltherFI> Sean93: the last entries should tell you about the drive
[17:36] <thewanderer1> gizmobay: no, you have to use network masks
[17:36] <oab> WaltherFI: no files inside called install. I will check again.
[17:36] <Sean93> WaltherFI, ok
[17:36] <bencahill> does anyone have a quick explanation or link for why you have to do ./ to run a script in the current dir?
[17:37] <gizmobay> can I put the computer name ubuntuhome?
[17:37] <popey> bencahill: because the current directory isn't in your path
[17:37] <bencahill> Sean93: dmesg | tail
[17:37] <bencahill> popey: gotcha, thanks :)
[17:37] <amy_> I need help setting up a HP printer.
[17:37] <bencahill> Sean93: ^^ to show the last ~10 lines
[17:38] <WaltherFI> amy_: try System - Preferences - Printing
[17:38] <WaltherFI> amy_: most printers work out of the box
[17:38] <thewanderer1> gizmobay: you can use resolvable hostnames
[17:38] <administrator_> 有人
[17:38] <thewanderer1> gizmobay: but keep in mind that hosts connecting to your machine will need to be resolved via reverse DNS (PTR) records
[17:39] <amy_> i am missing something.  when i do preferences, etc my printer model is not listed
[17:39] <administrator_> 有人没
[17:40] <bencahill> !ch | administrator_
[17:40] <WaltherFI> amy_: try searching by model
[17:40] <bencahill> !cn | administrator_
[17:40] <Sean93> WaltherFI, bencahill: it doesn't show up
[17:40] <amy_> In the list while i am in preferences or some where else?
[17:40] <KM0201> bencahill: hes' a troll, he's done this repeatedly the last few days
[17:40] <gizmobay> thewanderer1: how can I tell if I have resovable names?
[17:40] <WaltherFI> amy_: the Printing preferences, click the 'add' and see if you can find your model in the list
[17:41] <thewanderer1> gizmobay: dig 192.168.0.X PTR
[17:41] <thewanderer1> hmm not exactly... wait :P
[17:41] <bencahill> KM0201: ah man, i must've missed it! thx :)
[17:42] <KM0201> WaltherFI: are you a walther fan?
[17:42] <gizmobay> thewanderer1: thanks, what should it come back with?
[17:42] <WaltherFI> KM0201: i dislike guns, it's from my second name
[17:43] <WaltherFI> KM0201: I'm Veeti Waltteri Johannes Haapsamo, so there it is
[17:43] <KM0201> WaltherFI: ah i see... guns are as american as apple pie though.. :)
[17:43] <thewanderer1> gizmobay: actually, it doesn't quite work as expected, but when it does, it should return a hostname...
[17:43] <oab> WaltherFI: After some checking there is only a deb and rpm drivers, but I also found a folder stating that I must log in as root (?), and then go into Terminal I guess...
[17:43] <Sean93> WaltherFI, bencahill: it doesn't show up in dmesg
[17:43] <danub> how can I get rid of all the extra options in my grub for obsolete linux versions?
[17:43] <WaltherFI> oab: in terminal, type sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[17:43] <gizmobay> thewanderer1: that's what I thought it didn't return a host name
[17:43] <amy_> maybe I have a bigger problem.  Under system, preferences..  I do not have "printers".  I do under syster, admin, printers
[17:44] <popey> danub: remove the old kernels?
[17:44] <WaltherFI> amy_: oh then it is there
[17:44] <danub> i went into synaptic and removed the older ones (complete remove), but I still have the old linux headers listed in grub
[17:44] <WaltherFI> amy_: my mistake
[17:44] <popey> danub: as in, uninstall the packages
[17:44] <KM0201> danub: uninstall old kernels in synaptic, then run sudo update-grub2
[17:44] <bencahill> Sean93: you said other drives don't word in the port, right? i'd say the connections are messed up, and it's only getting hooked up to the 5v/power, and not the data
[17:44] <popey> dumont: sudo update-grub
[17:44] <gizmobay> amy_: try going through the cups interface http://localhost:631
[17:44] <danub> still found then
[17:44] <danub> them
[17:45] <KM0201> danub: then you didn't uninstall them, and/or you didn't update grub.
[17:45] <danub> in synaptic, i did a complete remove of the linux-headers- that were old. was there something different i was supposed to remove?
[17:45] <bencahill> danub: sudo update-grub
[17:45] <WaltherFI> Wow, is Cups developed by apple? that came as surprise, they've done something open source
[17:45] <thewanderer1> gizmobay: oh, the correct command line seems to be...
[17:45] <bencahill> popey: i think you meant danub, not dumont
[17:45] <bencahill> popey: ;)
[17:45] <amy_> the first screen comes up with a selection but it is not my printer.  has model F4500 - mine is F4580
[17:46] <thewanderer1> gizmobay: `dig D.C.B.A.in-addr.arpa PTR`, where A.B.C.D is the IP address
[17:46] <oab> WaltherFI: Am I logged in as root already? Also, do I have to be inside the folder where the file is to install it? I am using Ubuntu 10.04, so deb (Debian) file is the file I am supposed to install?
[17:46] <thewanderer1> (yes, reverse the octets)
[17:46] <Pablo> danub: Uninstall the old linux-images. Then sudo update-grub
[17:46] <KM0201> danub: you don't want to remove linux-headers.... :sigh:.... you want to remove linux-image-###... and remove the oldest one
[17:46] <bencahill> !root | oab
[17:46] <Sean93> bencahill, how do i fix it?
[17:46] <bencahill> Sean93: if it's a hardware issue, I wouldn't say it's worth it...desktop computer?
[17:46] <dream_on_1081> VERIFY REGISTER dream_on_108 tlelnubftlav
[17:46] <danub> KM0201: ahh, thats what i did wrong them. i got the headers and not the image. TY I'll go get rid of those and remember that for net time
[17:46] <WaltherFI> oab: you do not have to log in as root, sudo [command] makes you run commands as root, i.e. superuser do
[17:47] <Sean93> bencahill, yea
[17:47] <bencahill> Sean93: it could be the usb cable going to the motherboard...
[17:47] <bencahill> Sean93: i'd go to ##hardware, as it's a hardware issue
[17:48] <tp_> hi
[17:48] <oab> WaltherFI, bencahill, ubottu: does it matter what folder I am located in, and is it the deb and not the rpm I am supposed to use for Ubuntu 10.04?
[17:48] <Sean93> bencahill, ill go have a poke around
[17:48] <bencahill> Sean93: okay, good luck! :)
[17:48] <tp_> is irc alive in 2011?
[17:48] <tp_> used to chat in 2001
[17:48] <WaltherFI> oab: in terminal, use cd to change directory to the place the files are located
[17:48] <tp_> but in 2011?
[17:48] <thewanderer1> no, we're still sobering up after the new year's eve tp_
[17:48] <KM0201> oab: you want the .deb, whatever it is you're doing... just download it and double click it and it will open software center, and click install
[17:48] <bencahill> oab: ubuntu is based off of debian, deb = debian, rpm = redhat package manager
[17:48] <WaltherFI> oab: also, .deb are debian packages, and uvuntu is based on that. rpm's are for red hat
[17:49] <Pici> tp_: This is a support channel, if you just want to chat there is #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:49] <WaltherFI> yeah
[17:49] <bencahill> WaltherFI: beat ya :)
[17:49] <tp_> i need support
[17:49] <KM0201> tp_: then ask
[17:49] <bencahill> !ask | tp_
[17:49] <Gaming4JC> !help | tp_
[17:49] <tp_> i have netbook, ubunto 11 installed as wubi
[17:49] <gizmobay> thewanderer1: guess I could add them to the resolv.conf file
[17:49] <oab> Wow - this is fantastic reply and support! Ok. I go on, and keep you posted here as I proceed.
[17:49] <KM0201> tp_: first mistake.. using wubi
[17:49] <tp_> drive is ssd
[17:50] <thewanderer1> gizmobay: you mean /etc/hosts
[17:50] <bencahill> oab: :)
[17:50] <WaltherFI> oab: thank you :)
[17:50] <tp_> fs is ntfs
[17:50] <tp_> sooooo
[17:50] <amy_> I went to the HP sight and tried to run hplip-3.10.9   can't open, missing an associated helper app.  it told me to change my preferences.  no clue
[17:50] <WaltherFI> !enter |tp_
[17:50] <gizmobay> thewanderer1: yeah the hosts file
[17:50] <tp_> is trim actually supported in zis config?
[17:51] <tp_> ssd - ntfs - wubi - trim - ubuntu
[17:51] <thewanderer1> hmm nope :D
[17:51] <Pici> tp_: Ubuntu 11.04 is an alpha so it is not currently supported here. Please use #ubuntu+1
[17:51] <newbie|4> "Operation Linux"was the name chosen to describe the latest crackdown on ETA, carried out by the Guardia Civil of Spain
[17:51] <tp_> hmm
[17:51] <KM0201> geez man, glutton for punnishment.. he's using wubi, and he's using 11.04...lol
[17:51] <newbie|4> ETA = vasque terrorist
[17:51] <tp_> no, i have 10.10
[17:51] <Gaming4JC> 11.04 is to hmm... gnatty for me
[17:51] <Gaming4JC> xD
[17:51] <bencahill> KM0201: lol
[17:51] <gobbe> !ot | newbie|4
[17:51] <tp_> any thoughts
[17:52] <Pici> tp_: you said, 11, sorry.
[17:52] <tp_> ocz vertex 2, btw. very good drive
[17:52] <tp_> fuck, 10.04, i said
[17:53] <bencahill> !language | tp_
[17:53] <KM0201> tp_: you said ubuntu 11 at first..
[17:53] <Pici> tp_: Watch your language. You said 11 before, I was just apoligizing for providing incorrect information.
[17:53] <Gaming4JC> tp_: i have netbook, ubunto 11 installed as wubi <-- :o
[17:53] <Gaming4JC> anyways, not sure the problem myself
[17:53] <Gaming4JC> :/
[17:53] <tp_> hmm. anyway
[17:54] <amy_> should I be on some other site to get help with my issue?
[17:54] <tp_> is 11 fundamentally different?
[17:54] <KM0201> tp_: other than its not stable?.. yeah
[17:54] <popey> and not finished
[17:54] <WaltherFI> amy_: so what is your problem again
[17:54] <Sean93> ok, since usb is no longer an option, how could i get some files to a computer that has no floppy, cd, usb or internet?
[17:54] <bastidrazor> s
[17:54] <WaltherFI> amy_: sys- admin- printing should be all you need in most cases
[17:54] <amy_> can't hook up my printer.  Not on the list in system, admin, printers
[17:54] <WaltherFI> Sean93: does it have pci?
[17:54] <thewanderer1> Sean93: set up IP over serial lane
[17:55] <tp_> so, anyone have ssd and wubi installation?
[17:55] <Serialk> thewanderer1, thanks for the free hl.
[17:55] <Sean93> WaltherFI, yes
[17:55] <thewanderer1> Sean93: of course you need Linux at both ends for that :P
[17:55] <bencahill> Sean93: laptop r desktop?
[17:55] <WaltherFI> Sean93: send over serial cable
[17:55] <tev> evening.
[17:55] <WaltherFI> Sean93: oops, rj45 i meant
[17:55] <Serialk> :/
[17:55] <KM0201> tp_: wubi is kinda like voodoo, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, and even when ti works, you're left wondering what exactly happened
[17:55] <Sean93> thewanderer1, i have linux at both ends, how do i do that?
[17:55] <WaltherFI> Serialk: sorry :D
[17:55] <bencahill> Sean93: or pci ethernet
[17:55] <tp_> it works well for me
[17:56] <gobbe> tp_: well, good luck :)
[17:56] <KM0201> !works4me | tp_
[17:56] <tp_> i just wanna know that my ssd life will be big
[17:56] <thewanderer1> Sean93: first, this is going to be very painful, so if you have any other means, for example PCI network cards, use them
[17:56] <KM0201> !worksforme | tp_
[17:56] <gobbe> tp_: wubi is meant for testing, not for long term usage
[17:56] <tp_> cause my main win 7 os has trim, and as i know trim is not supported in wubi conf
[17:56] <Roasted_> When I'm in PulseAudio Volume Control (installed from software center) and I go to the input tab, there is a right and left slider for the microphone. Why? Why is there two for the mic? Reason I ask is for Skype to work on my Acer Aspire One netbook, I have to have ONE of the sliders @ 0% and the other @ 100%. It doesn't matter which, but they both cannot be 100%. As a result, I wondered why there's even two to begin with.
[17:56] <KM0201> gobbe: unfortunately, to many people do not understand that.
[17:57] <Pici> tp_: Do you see any trim options available when you run hdparm on your hd device when running under Wubi?
[17:57] <Sean93> rj45 is ethernet?
[17:57] <amy_> I tried to go through HP .  said i need a "helper" application.  go to preferences and change.   change what??
[17:57] <tp_> wubi is meant for simplicity
[17:57] <WaltherFI> tp_: you should install from lvecd or usb
[17:57] <Pici> Sean93: yes.
[17:57] <WaltherFI> Sean93: yep, ethernet
[17:57] <Sean93> it doesnt have an ethernet port
[17:57] <Arachon> Hey guys, I was wondering if it is at all possible to install the Lucid Netbook Remix interface on a computer running 10.10?
[17:57] <tp_> i have installed os, it works
[17:57] <oab> WaltherFI, bencahill, KM0201: First thing I tried was just to click places -> homefolder -> oab -> Downloads -> UK (extracted folder from canon) -> 32-bit_Driver -> Debian -> and then double clicked the file. Package installer jumps up, but after some seconds the "status" changes to: "Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'". And inside the 64 bit folder there is only RPM drivers...
[17:57] <thewanderer1> Sean93: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2820?page=0,1
[17:57] <tev> thewanderer1: /etc/login.defs MAIL_DIR $HOME/Maildir/ or MAIL_DIR Maildir does not seem to work for the mail part in motd. So I looked at /etc/pam.conf and it said to set it in /etc/login.defs :/ chicken and egg?
[17:57] <tp_> so wubi is ok
[17:57] <actionparsnip> Arachon: aren't they the same?
[17:57] <KM0201> tp_: not really... you should hang out here and see people doing complete reinstalls because wubi wrecked a system... i'd suggest you really look into wubi, before proclaiming it "ok"
[17:58] <gobbe> tp_: it's meant for testing. it might be simple in some cases, so is just giving littlebit space and installing there
[17:58] <WaltherFI> oab: oh. no support for 64bit debians
[17:58] <thewanderer1> tev: sorry but I have no means of checking that right now, I'm on Debian currently
[17:58] <tp_> its meant by using
[17:58] <KM0201> oab: then you'll have to download the 64bit source and compile the driver... 64bit is awesome!
[17:58] <Pici> tp_: Ubuntu 10.10 has full support for trim, the issue here is whether it is able to use those when running under WUBI, which uses a 'virtual parition' on your NTFS parition.  So do you see any trim options available when you run hdparm on your hd device when running under Wubi?
[17:58] <tp_> you lame
[17:58] <actionparsnip> Arachon: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1592796
[17:58] <mustafa> i am getting usr/local/glassfish-3.0.1/glassfish/domains/domain1/config/server.policy (permission denied) warning when running netbeans. how can i get rid og this?
[17:58] <Sean93> the files im trying to get on there are the b43 wireless firmware files, after that i can use wireless for everything
[17:59] <tp_> not a virtual partition. image drive
[17:59] <tp_> root.disk
[17:59] <gobbe> tp_: same thing
[17:59] <Pici> tp_: Thats what I meant.
[17:59] <tev> thewanderer1: :) thx anyway .. nobody else seems to know about pam and login options :)
[17:59] <KM0201> Sean93: thats detailed quite well on the broadcom page
[17:59] <oab> WaltherFI: How do I find out whether I have 64 or 32 bit OS installed? I tried to locate it yesterday to no avail yet.
[17:59] <tp_> no, you are complete lamers
[17:59] <KM0201> !broadcom | Sean93
[17:59] <KM0201> lol
[17:59] <amy_> is there somewhere here that i can get one on one help?
[17:59] <Pici> !ask | amy_
[17:59] <oab> KM0201: I don't think I am competent for any driver compilation :D
[18:00] <WaltherFI> oab:system - admin- system monitor
[18:00] <Arachon> actionparsnip: So the old "real" interface is not available.... How come? Isn't it possible to add a repository containing it?
[18:00] <KM0201> oab: well, no disrespect, i'd say you're likely SOL, but i've not paid much attention to your problem
[18:00] <Sean93> KM0201, i have done it before, the problem is actually getting the files on to the pc
[18:00] <sipior> amy_: best just to repeat your question every ten minutes or so. people come in and out all the time.
[18:00] <WaltherFI> oab: also, it told you that wrong architecture, i386 instead of x64 so you have 64
[18:00] <KM0201> Sean93: can you use a USB?
[18:01] <Sean93> KM0201, no, no usb, floppy or cd
[18:01] <Pici> tp_: see your pm, You're muted.
[18:01] <WaltherFI> KM0201: only ethernet avail
[18:01] <oab> KM0201: SOL?
[18:01] <KM0201> WaltherFI: well if he has ethernet available, install from the repos
[18:01] <WaltherFI> KM0201: what was the method to send over ethernet again?
[18:01] <WaltherFI> KM0201: he had no internet
[18:01] <KM0201> oh.
[18:02] <Sean93> there is no ethernet port either
[18:02] <thewanderer1> Sean93: do you have access to IDE/SATA interfaces?
[18:02] <KM0201> WaltherFI: well, if he has internet now, why not just use the internet to install?
[18:02] <amy_> i need help installing a HP printer
[18:02] <WaltherFI> KM0201: different machine
[18:02] <KM0201> ok, now i understand
[18:03] <WaltherFI> amy_: So have you checked the printing preferences from system - administration - printing?
[18:03] <bencahill> KM0201: lol :)
[18:03] <Sean93> thewanderer1, do you mean hosting the harddrive in this pc? and transferring the files?
[18:03] <thewanderer1> Sean93: yup
[18:03] <amy_> yes
[18:03] <bencahill> Sean93: or cd drive
[18:03] <WaltherFI> amy_: nearly no printer need separate drivers or configuration on ubuntu
[18:03] <KM0201> bencahill: quite the situation...
[18:03] <WaltherFI> amy_: clicked 'add' and searched through the list?
[18:03] <bencahill> KM0201: yes, quite curious indeed :)
[18:03] <amy_> what do i do if my model is not listed
[18:03] <Gaming4JC> that is problematic...
[18:03] <popey> amy_: what model is it?
[18:03] <BajK> how do I remove headers/footers on firefox printout? This dialog shown everywhere where you can chose seems not to exist on Kubuntu
[18:03] <WaltherFI> amy_: try the Generic one
[18:03] <BajK> you can only adjust margins/paper size
[18:03] <amy_> deskjet f4580
[18:04] <WaltherFI> amy_: in most cases, it works
[18:04] <actionparsnip> amy_: HP printers are great in Linux as HP make Linux drivers
[18:04] <WaltherFI> BajK: firefox preferences
[18:04] <Sean93> Its an old hobo build that is about 15 years old, i couldnt resist :P
[18:04] <KM0201> Sean93: well... first how did you install ubuntu on the machine?
[18:04] <amy_> would the one that highlights be the generic one?
[18:04] <actionparsnip> amy_: when you connect it and power the printer, does the OS react?
[18:04] <BajK> WaltherFI: where? I cant find this option
[18:05] <Sean93> KM0201, hosted the drive in this pc
[18:05] <amy_> sorry, what is the OS
[18:05] <mkrmkrmkr> does anybody have knowledge on usb headsets on ubuntu?
[18:05] <popey> amy_: are you sure it's f4580?
[18:05] <actionparsnip> amy_: the OS is the operating system, in this case, Ubuntu
[18:05] <Gaming4JC> amy_: http://blog.professorcoruja.com/2010/08/install-hp-deskjet-f4580-on-ubuntu-1004.html
[18:05] <popey> amy_: I see no HP printer of that name in existence
[18:05] <KM0201> Sean93: so do the same thing... host drive on your machine, download the .deb files/wireless drivers you need, then move back to old machine
[18:05] <oab> WaltherFI: Couldn't find any info inside System Monitor saying whether I have 32 or 64 bit. Says only 10.04 (lucid).
[18:05] <popey> amy_: there is a J4580
[18:05] <Gaming4JC> !google | amy_
[18:05] <Gaming4JC> :D
[18:05] <popey> Gaming4JC: not helpful
[18:05] <Gaming4JC> awww ubottu
[18:05] <Gaming4JC> lame :(
[18:05] <actionparsnip> oab: run: uname -m   i686 == 32bit   x86_64 == 64bit
[18:06] <amy_> f4580 is the model on the box
[18:06] <Gaming4JC> popey: That blog post explains how to install on Lucid
[18:06] <Gaming4JC> :)
[18:06] <mkrmkrmkr> is there anybody who could help me with my usb headset?
[18:06] <popey> amy_: ah, found it
[18:06] <Sean93> KM0201, forgot to transfer the files at the time, got everything rebuilt and was like -_-
[18:06] <popey> Gaming4JC: still no excuse for throwing google at new users
[18:06] <actionparsnip> amy_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -c   please?
[18:06] <Gaming4JC> popey: Agreed, sorry.
[18:06] <Gaming4JC> :s
[18:07] <Gaming4JC> amy_: Please disregard my former ubottu trigger.
[18:07] <Gaming4JC> :)
[18:07] <KM0201> Sean93: well you have to be realistic
[18:07] <actionparsnip> amy_: press CTRL+ALT+T  and copy the command to the terminal, hit ENTER, what is output?
[18:07] <amy_> actionparsnip where do i find this lsb_release
[18:07] <KM0201> the machine has no internet, no usb, no cd, how exactly do you expect to transfer files?
[18:07] <actionparsnip> KM0201: network storage, like dropbox ;)
[18:07] <Sean93> KM0201, true
[18:08] <KM0201> actionparsnip: the machine can't get any network access, to access network storage
[18:08] <actionparsnip> KM0201: well then its double screwed, surely ethernet exists
[18:08] <WaltherFI> amy_: Applications - accessories - terminal
[18:08] <KM0201> actionparsnip: apparently not, from what he's said thus far
[18:08] <WaltherFI> amy_: type in that command
[18:08] <bashelina> i need some help with the printing utility
[18:08] <bashelina> how can i see what driver is being used ?
[18:08] <tp_> фукер
[18:09] <tp_> хуйло
[18:09] <FloodBot3> tp_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:09] <FloodBot4> tp_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:09] <tp_> пидарас
[18:09] <FloodBot1> tp_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:09] <WaltherFI> amy_: and remember, do not ever type in commands without knowing what it does
[18:09] <actionparsnip> KM0201: get him/her to run:  sudo lshw -C network   i bet it does, but it'll be behind a blanking plate
[18:09] <Gaming4JC> !ru | tp_
[18:09] <actionparsnip> WaltherFI: thats gonna be tricky if the user has never used Linux before
[18:09] <KM0201> actionparsnip: its not connected to a network, it's only access is wireless, which is not working...
[18:09] <oab> I installed using WUBI on a Windows 7 64 bit machine, and it didn't let me choose whether I wanted to install 32bit or 64bit. actionparsnip: what should the result be?
[18:10] <WaltherFI> actionparsnip: still, better to inform him/her about the dangers of terminal
[18:10] <actionparsnip> KM0201: then another network which has wired is needed
[18:10] <actionparsnip> WaltherFI: true
[18:10] <KM0201> actionparsnip: lol... i give up... usually you're on top of things, i think today just isn't your day
[18:10] <WaltherFI> oab: wubi is not intended for regular usage and it has its issues
[18:10] <actionparsnip> KM0201: usb storage?
[18:11] <KM0201> actionparsnip: usb doesn't work
[18:11] <KM0201> cd rom is broken
[18:11] <KM0201> i said this all earlier
[18:11] <thewanderer1> Sean93: so can you move the disk and access it via the host system?
[18:11] <amy_> i went to applications accessories terminal and did ctl alt t,  nothing happened
[18:11] <KM0201> actionparsnip: so he's either trolling, or has a really serious problem
[18:11] <KM0201> lol
[18:11] <actionparsnip> KM0201: take out internal drive, slam it in another PC and copy the data to or from
[18:11] <KM0201> actionparsnip: thats what i said 10min ago
[18:11] <Gaming4JC> KM0201: Ethernet? (Share files over the wire) ^^
[18:11] <Sean93> thewanderer1, yes, seems like the only option
[18:11] <actionparsnip> KM0201: looks like the ONLY option then
[18:11] <oab> actionparsnip: it prints a line below saying: "uname: extra operand 'i686'".
[18:11] <KM0201> Gaming4JC: i'm not gonna repeat myself for the 4th time.. .read above.. HE CANT
[18:12] <thewanderer1> Sean93: SLIP is the alternative, but it's quite slow
[18:12] <WaltherFI> amy_: in terminal, write the command. ctrl alt t is just shortcut for terminal
[18:12] <actionparsnip> oab: no, the command is ONLY: uname -m
[18:12] <thewanderer1> adequate only for some scenarios
[18:12] <Gaming4JC> KM0201: eh sorry, that's a pain then.
[18:12] <actionparsnip> oab: the rest was telling you how to interpret the output
[18:12] <amy_> sorry, what was the command again.
[18:12] <actionparsnip> amy_: lsb_release -c
[18:13] <amy_> feisty
[18:13] <inaety> Anyone here familiar with dual boots?  I have a machine that had a dualboot with win7 and ubuntu.  Well, I wanted to try out Arch Linux and so I partitioned off some memory from the ubuntu partition. And now, GRUB doesn't recognize my other machines and will only boot up Arch.  Not sure how to reconfigure GRUb
[18:13] <oab> WaltherFI: You recommend me to make two partitions and then install Ubuntu from scratch, or can it be installed without making two partitions too?
[18:14] <bencahill> inaety: #arch may be more appropriate for your question, or #grub
[18:14] <IdleOne> amy_: feisty has not been supported since 2008
[18:14] <WaltherFI> oab: if you want to keep your windows, you need separate partition. if you don't need windows or whatever you have at the moment, you can use the "use entire disk"
[18:14] <mkrmkrmkr> I have got an USB headset with C-Media Sound card in it. It is recognized well and it used to work three days ago. Now it doent play any sound, but it is shown in the pulseaudio volume control list and the volume bars are moving, but there is still no sound. My onboard sound works fine. I also removed the virtual sound device but that also doesnt help. The headset is still okay (tested on another machine). Could anybody help me
[18:14] <amy_> what now?
[18:14] <KM0201> inaety: do you still have your ubuntu live cd?
[18:14] <WaltherFI> oab: however, "use entire disk" will erase entire disk
[18:14] <bencahill> inaety: i mean #archlinux :)
[18:14] <IdleOne> !feisty
[18:14] <lolcat> Is there a way to make the screen never lock, go black or do anthing?
[18:14] <inaety> bencahill: alright, i'll see what they say
[18:14] <oab> actionparsnip: thanks :) The it is 64 bit unfortunatly. Seems like Wubi installs the same as you got already.
[18:14] <inaety> KM0201: yeah.  I have ubuntu's and Arch's
[18:14] <WaltherFI> lolcat: preferences - screensaver
[18:15] <KM0201> !grub2 | inaety boot the ubuntu live cd, and follow the instructions to restore grub
[18:15] <inaety> KM0201: that's all I have to do? alright thanks man
[18:15] <KM0201> inaety: hopefully
[18:16] <Arachon> Well fudge it, looks like I'll be going back to 10.4
[18:16] <Arachon> Aw
[18:16] <inaety> KM0201: that document refers to Grub after installing windows though
[18:16] <WaltherFI> Arachon: what is your problem?
[18:16] <KM0201> inaety: i know that, but you need to rewrite the mbr w/ grub 2, and update it.. just follow the instructions, and it should get you rolling
[18:17] <bashelina> f
[18:17] <enema> hi everyone, i've just started up a new blog about linux.  would anyone like to see it?
[18:17] <oab> WaltherFI: Hopefully I can make an additional partition inside Win7 now, and then install Ubuntu from scratch afterwards on that partition.
[18:17] <inaety> KM0201: thanks buddy
[18:17] <WaltherFI> !ot |enema
[18:17] <Arachon> WaltherFI: I was trying to get the 10.4 Netbook interface running under 10.10, but apparently, you can't
[18:17] <IdleOne> enema: no advertising please
[18:17] <WaltherFI> Arachon: ah, it has been depleted yes
[18:17] <enema> ok
[18:17] <amy_> what version is current now?
[18:18] <enema> well if anyone wants to see it, just send me a private message/
[18:18] <WaltherFI> Arachon: the Unity desktop is the new standard for netbooks
[18:18] <Arachon> WaltherFI: "depleted"?
[18:18] <bashelina> h
[18:18] <oab> WaltherFI, actionparsnip, KM0201: What is the end user difference between 10.04 and 10.10?
[18:18] <Arachon> WaltherFI: Oh, so they actually delete previous versions?
[18:18] <WaltherFI> oab: hm, loads of visual improvements at least
[18:19] <Arachon> No PPAs containing it or anything
[18:19] <oab> WaltherFI: So you would recommend me to go with 10.10?
[18:19] <WaltherFI> Arachon: no, but the newer versions have different repos
[18:19] <nesv> oab: Some of the Ubuntu-specific applications (Ubuntu Software Centre comes to mind) have been updated.
[18:19] <WaltherFI> Arachon: i think you can add the old desktop manually
[18:19] <WaltherFI> oab: yes, it is stable
[18:19] <Arachon> WaltherFI: Well, apparently I can't, that's just it
[18:19] <nesv> oab: 10.10 for sure if you're using it as a desktop. 10.04 if you're doing a server, though.
[18:19] <oab> So basically there is no advantages with 10.04 over 10.10?
[18:20] <Arachon> The old "2D" Netbook interface is available, but not the fully fledged one
[18:20] <oab> Running it from my laptop.
[18:20] <WaltherFI> Arachon: the old "Netbook remix" desktop interface did not live long
[18:20] <BajK> stupid firefox -.- why is printing in linux such a mess
[18:20] <Pici> oab: 10.04 is supported for 3 years on the desktop, 5 years on the server. 10.10 is supported for 18 months.
[18:20] <WaltherFI> Arachon: so it might be possible they've even deleted it at some point
[18:20] <BajK> why can't i just say PRINT this god damn file to a PDF and WITHOUT ANY MARGINS? no it always puts some marigns here, or a title there and does whatever it wants
[18:20] <cognitiaclaeves> I installed xubuntu-desktop because I was having issues with the system running slow.  Now it seems that I need to enter my password to each server configured for passwordless SSH.  I understand that not having to do so is a function of gnome-keyring ?  Why doesn't it work with XFCE ?
[18:20] <BajK> why do I have about:config if it is overwritten anyway?
[18:20] <WaltherFI> oab: no advantages other than support - and you can install newer versions to gain longer support then
[18:21] <nesv> BajK: Watch your language; do you have any specific question?
[18:21] <WaltherFI> oab: so i totally recommend updating to 10.10 for the "basic users"
[18:21] <Guest72545> xdcc
[18:21] <Arachon> WaltherFI: Oh.... But it's still in 10.4, no?
[18:21] <thewanderer1> cognitiaclaeves: no, ssh keys are handled by ssh-agent
[18:21] <BajK> nesv: I just want to print out a formatted html file with pages (21cmx29cm) without any borders, margins, stupid titles or anything else
[18:21] <oab> But lets say 10.11 is released, is it just a update from update manager onto 10.10 as e.g. OS X 10.6.4 to 10.6.5 or Win 7 SP1 to SP2?
[18:21] <WaltherFI> Arachon: i'm not sure, at least on 9.10 i think
[18:21] <BajK> I can change the "scale" thing, everything but it ALWAYS puts stupid margins arount
[18:21] <thewanderer1> cognitiaclaeves: it is the Xsession's responsibility to launch ssh-agent, and some desktop environments simply do not launch it by default
[18:22] <croddy> good afternoon. i am using ubuntu netbook edition 10.04.1 and would like to add a weather report to the top panel. is there some documentation on how to do this?
[18:22] <Arachon> WaltherFI: Well, it *is* in 10.4, this I know for sure, but you're saying that that interface is completely incompatible with 10.10
[18:22] <oab> Thanks guys. Then I am repartitioning my harddrive and making a clean install with 10.10 32bit.
[18:22] <WaltherFI> oab: there's not going to be any other versions than .04 and .10
[18:22] <nesv> BajK: So, what is the issue? If you go File -> Print, you should have to do nothing more than select your printer and click the "Print" button.
[18:22] <oab> Why is  that?
[18:22] <cognitiaclaeves> thewanderer1: Ok.  What does gnome-keyring do, then?
[18:22] <WaltherFI> oab: regular releases
[18:22] <WaltherFI> oab: other things come as updates
[18:22] <BajK> nesv: i select print to file, choose a pdf format, and have set my margins to zero and still I got borders.
[18:23] <thewanderer1> cognitiaclaeves: it functions as a part of PAM stack and stores the user's password to unlock his "wallet" - stored passwords for various apps
[18:23] <WaltherFI> Arachon: the old interface was in ubuntu for a little short time and was removed as it wasn't too good
[18:23] <WaltherFI> Arachon: i think it is not quite supported anymore
[18:23] <nesv> BajK: Which application are you doing this from, Firefox?
[18:23] <BajK> yes
[18:23] <gumpish> Is anyone here using a 802.11n USB wifi adapter? Looking to buy one that doesn't require any special installation steps...
[18:23] <oab> Ok. So the next version then is 11.XX, as 10.04 and 10.10 has replaced 9.XX?
[18:23] <BajK> in windows you could just set all titles to "none" and margins: 0 but this doesnt accept it
[18:24] <Arachon> WaltherFI: Not supported is understandable, but not avaliable at all? It seems a bit... forced
[18:24] <WaltherFI> oab: yep, the 10 stands for 2010, 11 for 2011, etc
[18:24] <oab> Ahh
[18:24] <rooks> gumpish, i use some wired ethernet usb, it is detected by ubuntu by just plugging it in
[18:24] <WaltherFI> Arachon: let me check the availability again
[18:24] <smallfoot-> canonical need assign developers to gimp
[18:24] <dodgy_script> I am trying to switch networks  wlan0   to  eth0  from the command line in 10.04  any advice ?
[18:24] <gobbe> dodgy_script: what do you mean with switching?
[18:25] <rooks> dodgy_script, route?
[18:25] <gobbe> dodgy_script: you have now wlan0 and want to use etthernet?
[18:25] <nesv> BajK: I was able to just print a PDF of an HTML page I just quickly cooked up, and the only borders/margins I was getting was where it would be acceptable for the printer to actually print to.
[18:25] <WaltherFI> smallfoot-: Agreed 100%
[18:25] <BajK> it is not supposed to be printed, and if, I have my own borders set with CSS
[18:25] <BajK> I dont want this thing to interfere with what I WANT to do
[18:26] <KM0201> gumpish: hang on, and i'll find you a link to the one i have, plug it in, and connect to a network... no fuss no muss
[18:26] <nesv> Have a good afternoon everyone, I'm sorry I can't help you any further, BajK - I'm about to head into a meeting.
[18:26] <gumpish> KM0201: cool!
[18:27] <oab> Thanks guys, WaltherFI, actionparsnip, KM0201, bencahill, ubottu, nesv, Pici and rusty149. This was of great help and a super forum to discover! I am now restarting and reinstalling ;) See you later.
[18:27] <WaltherFI> oab: you're welcome
[18:27] <cognitiaclaeves> thewanderer1: ssh-agent appears to be running, though.  It's also in the xinitrc for XFCE.
[18:27] <WaltherFI> Arachon: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR
[18:28] <dodgy_script> gobbe, i have a wired line eth0 and a wireless connection wlan0  id just like to be able to use both dont know how
[18:28] <BajK> well I KNEW GTK was some pre-historic stuff
[18:28] <gobbe> dodgy_script: same time?
[18:28] <BajK> with Konqueror it just works the way I want it
[18:28] <BajK> could this be so difficult?!
[18:29] <fresh_> SOSY XUI
[18:29] <sipior> BajK: use Konqueror then.
[18:29] <fresh_> BERY B JOPY
[18:29] <WaltherFI> BajK: sudo apt-get install konqueror :)
[18:29] <glaceman> good evening every 1
[18:29] <glaceman> :d
[18:29] <BajK> I already use KDE
[18:29] <WaltherFI> BajK: there is complete support for KDE programs in gnome too
[18:29] <KM0201> gumpish: http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-USB-Adapter-Desktop-Notebook/dp/B001B0GZMA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=apparel&qid=1294943341&sr=8-2
[18:29] <BajK> and always when I get to "work" with a GTK application I do know why I don't have Gnome but KDE
[18:30] <KM0201> gumpish: it's about $20 cheaper here (if you're in the US).. click the "see price in cart"...  http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3173666
[18:30] <dodgy_script> gobbe,  well iv heard that is hard to set up! id settle for at different times
[18:30] <Arachon> WaltherFI: Hm, I'll look it through, and practicie my Google-fu a bit more, thanks for the help anyhow :3
[18:30] <gumpish> KM0201: thanks! (yes, I'm in the US) I'll check it out right away
[18:30] <thewanderer1> cognitiaclaeves: you also need to have SSH_AGENT_PID set as an env variable
[18:30] <WaltherFI> Arachon: but yeah, UNR is officially down, the UNE is the real version
[18:31] <thewanderer1> cognitiaclaeves: or SSH_AUTH_SOCK or similar
[18:31] <cognitiaclaeves> thewanderer1: when I execute ssh with  -vvv, it looks like it looks for identity, id_rsa, and id_dsa files .  I have a keyfile, but it's none of those.  When I ln -s to the keyfiles with identity*, then it asks for a passphrase, which I normally don't see.
[18:31] <WaltherFI> Arachon: ubuntu netbook edition, not remix
[18:31] <KM0201> gumpish: i've never tested it like w/ penetration w/ backtrack.. but it'll connect to open, wep, wpa, wpa2 networks w/o issue.. just plug it in on 10.10, and it picks up and you choose a network
[18:31] <thewanderer1> cognitiaclaeves: have you run ssh-add to add your key to the keyring?
[18:31] <Arachon> WaltherFI: Yeah, I'm not expecting any "official" support, but in it's current state, Unity is a bit too unpolished for me
[18:32] <gumpish> KM0201: sounds like it'll suit me fine then
[18:32] <WaltherFI> Arachon: the whole netbook interface is pretty hot potato, and too new atm no matter what interface
[18:32] <cognitiaclaeves> thewanderer1: Possibly not.  I may have only configured something like passwordless SSH using gnome-keyring, but not the real thing.
[18:32] <WaltherFI> Arachon: it hasn't been on for long enough
[18:32] <Arachon> WaltherFI: In my experience, the 10.4 one seemed a lot more polished, it was more responsive and easier to understand, Unity doesn't even have a proper file manager embedded
[18:32] <thewanderer1> cognitiaclaeves: well, it probably uses ssh-add under the hood, so use that
[18:33] <Arachon> WaltherFI: But yeah, I see what you mean, hopefully it'll sort out in the future
[18:33] <killown> after the last xorg update this fuc**d up avant-window-navigator http://img203.imageshack.us/i/capturadetelaw.png/
[18:33] <inaety> KM0201: Hey, sorry to bother you again, but I accidentally screwed a bit on the grub-install.  My ubuntu partition is on /dev/sda6 and on this step "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/0d104aff-ec8c-44c8-b811-92b993823444 /dev/sda" I left it as sda and not sda6.  Can I just redo that command but replace with sda6?
[18:33] <KM0201> inaety: yoru disk is not going to boot sda6, unless there's a /boot partition on sda6
[18:34] <KM0201> you need to install grub to the mbr of sda
[18:34] <inaety> KM0201: I'm just following what it says.  There is indeed a /boot directory on my ubuntu partition
[18:34] <WaltherFI> inaety: yep. the sda was the right thing to do
[18:34] <KM0201> gumpish: i will warn you though, if you plan to use it with windows, oddly, it's flaky under windows.  the software that comes w/ the device.. sucks... but thats not an issue w/ ubuntu
[18:34] <inaety> WaltherFI: just keep it /dev/sda NOT /dev/sda6?
[18:34] <KM0201> inaety: no, you need to follow the instructions
[18:34] <cognitiaclaeves> thewanderer1: It looks like it did.  Thanks!  Will I need to do that each time I boot?
[18:35] <WaltherFI> inaety: or, if you have separate boot partition etc, there is nothing there now and your mbr is already having the grub
[18:35] <gumpish> KM0201: ooo, actually it looks like the chipset in that model has changed over time and the current hardware revision might not have the driver in the kernel
[18:35] <rtdos> i have a brand new xubuntu 10.10 machine; how can i install gnome netbook on it without messing up my xfce4 desktop?
[18:35] <KozaG> Can someone help me to install Gnome Graphics Tablet Apps? I can't find anywhere a desent help to do so.
[18:35] <thewanderer1> cognitiaclaeves: each time you launch your desktop environment, to be precise
[18:35] <KM0201> gumpish: i can't remember the chipset in the one i have...
[18:35] <gumpish> KM0201: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_hostif.php?hostif=USB search for f5d8053
[18:35] <KM0201> i know its a realtek
[18:35] <WaltherFI> rtdos: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or similar
[18:35] <gumpish> oh it is?
[18:35] <filo56> Looking for the best book on Ubunu or Ubuntu Server anyone recommend one they like?
[18:35] <gumpish> in that case that page may be out of date
[18:35] <WaltherFI> inaety: did you make separate boot partition for not messing up the mbr?
[18:36] <IdleOne> !manual | filo56
[18:36] <gumpish> because that page shows the realtek chipset as not yet being supported
[18:36] <fennucci> anyone have any luck putting Ubuntu 10.4 on a toshiba a505 laptop?>
[18:36] <txomon> hello anyone know which is the  difference between academic license and a copyleft license?
[18:36] <KM0201> gumpish: i'm pretty sure its a realtek, not a ralink
[18:36] <Pici> !ot | txomon
[18:36] <WaltherFI> inaety: also, nowadays grub is recommended to be at MBR, not on partitions
[18:36] <cognitiaclaeves> ok.  So all that I'm really missing is a prompt to enter the passphrase when I use the key.  Thanks again.
[18:36] <fennucci> copyleft?
[18:36] <gumpish> and the older ralink as being the supported ones
[18:36] <gumpish> ok
[18:36] <inaety> WaltherFI: Nah.  My situation is that I had win7 and ubuntu dualbooted just fine.  but then i partitioned off some of the ubuntu to install Arch linux.  and that broke my GRUB install
[18:37] <inaety> WaltherFI: How do I install it to the MBR then?
[18:37] <Chilaquiles> is there any office suite that is very similar to microsoft office for linux besides openoffice
[18:37] <WaltherFI> inaety: grub-install /dev/sda
[18:37] <[R00teR]> anyone know how can i set a password for any application?
[18:37] <txomon> Pici: this is a ubuntu related question if I am thinking on a ubuntu app isnt it?
[18:37] <WaltherFI> inaety: it should probe the OSes, and make entries for all of those
[18:37] <Harness> IdleOne: Where do you find all the !ubottu commands?
[18:37] <IdleOne> Chilaquiles: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-January/032298.html  libreoffice
[18:37] <inaety> what about the --root-directory that guide talks about
[18:37] <KM0201> !ubottu | Harness
[18:37] <IdleOne> !bot | Harness
[18:37] <Chilaquiles> thanks IdleOne
[18:38] <inaety> WaltherFI: forgot your name. what about the --root-directory that guide talks about
[18:38] <KM0201> Chilaquiles: libre office is more or less the same as open office..
[18:38] <shockz> does anyone know anything about fixing opengl while using the cuda driver and toolkit?
[18:39] <[R00teR]> nobody knows? i want to set a password for various applications, how can i do that??
[18:39] <WaltherFI> inaety: hmm... if you have done things according to guide so far, it would be betterto folow the guide till the end
[18:39] <Pici> txomon: No, that is outside the scope of this channel.  If you're asking about how to package something that exists under one of those licenses, you can try #ubuntu-packaging
[18:39] <Chilaquiles> ok thanks
[18:39] <KozaG> Can someone help me to install Gnome Graphics Tablet Apps? I can't find anywhere a desent help to do so.
[18:39] <txomon> Pici: ok
[18:39] <WaltherFI> inaety: i know this is not too helpful, but when using guides, it is usually the best thing to do as they have been tested that way
[18:39] <inaety> WaltherFI: Haha, there was only one command in the guide.  and that was it.  "sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/0d104aff-ec8c-44c8-b811-92b993823444 /dev/sda"
[18:40] <KM0201> gumpish: i just checked mine, it looks like i have version 3
[18:40] <Rodemire> Hallo. I have a quick question.
[18:40] <WaltherFI> inaety: the root directory refers to your HDD, which should be mounted to /dev/sda anyway
[18:40] <duke_> hi does you have to hold voltage in ssd disk to let the data be  present ?? i mean on board
[18:40] <KM0201> gumpish: thats all it says on the back...  whatever that means
[18:40] <WaltherFI> !ask | Rodemire
[18:40] <gumpish> hmm, well since v 1 and v 4 are ralink, i'm guessing that would make it the ralink chipset >.>
[18:41] <inaety> WaltherFI: I think I'm straight actually.  I installed grub onto the MBR but pointed it to my ubuntu partition as the hdd
[18:41] <WaltherFI> Rodemire: this channel is very fast-paced, so just ask to keep the flood down :)
[18:41] <Rodemire> I installed documentation, "python-aspw-doc" from Synaptic. After downloading it, where can I find it?
[18:41] <moonraker> cant register why?
[18:41] <KM0201> gumpish: yeah, seems that way