[10:50] <j2daosh> oh... ok
[10:50] <iKernel> cept make didn't come with suse personal... so annoying
[10:50] <sudharsh> lol
[10:50] <j2daosh> Nameeater, sudo vi /etc/fstab
[10:51] <Nameeater> and then? :|
[10:51] <j2daosh> add it and then do mount "whatever you named it"
[10:51] <j2daosh> or mount -a
[10:51] <Ng> Nameeater: does the disk have any partitions on it yet? If it's a completely new and blank disk you probably want to use something like the Disk administrator or gparted to set up some partitions
[10:51] <iKernel> j2daosh: Some how I don't think he knows how to edit fstab.
[10:51] <heewa> j2daosh: Try "who -uH". That'll give you the users logged on, and the PID of the init process. You can then kill the process to kick them off.
[10:51] <Nameeater> ooo automounter sounds interesting
[10:52] <Ng> then you can add them to he fstab in the style of the existing entries
[10:52] <nikol> where can i find the plugins for ubuntu 5.04 to play mp3,mpg,mpeg,dvd etc...????
[10:52] <Nameeater> Ng: its a fat32 disk i think
[10:52] <sudharsh> nikol: install xmms, xine
[10:52] <iKernel> Nameeater: format it to ext3.
[10:52] <jawshoewah> all of the documentation says its "just a placeholder for now" i assume that sense make does nothing ie command not found I just skip to makefile
[10:52] <marc_> crimsun, ok .. it's already reported ;) http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=22204  .. my patch was not htat right it seems after all eithr :)
[10:53] <j2daosh> ok i got another question... whats the pts stand for? u got tty for actually being at the console and pts... im assuming something concerning rlogin but what does it mean exactly
[10:54] <j2daosh> and if im siting here at the computer shouldn't i have a tty instead of a pts for my name?
[10:54] <Nameeater> iKernel: is there any reason to?
[10:54] <j2daosh> how big is your drive Nameeater
[10:54] <iKernel> Nameeater: Yes... ext3 is better.
[10:55] <Nameeater> the drive is a tiny 1.2gig
[10:55] <j2daosh> do you have windows installed also?
[10:55] <Nameeater> no
[10:55] <darkkyokusanagi> how to make ubuntu sound output to SPDIF?
[10:55] <j2daosh> ok... well if it is such a small drive i dont see where it would matter
[10:55] <iKernel> hmm k
[10:55] <j2daosh> ext3 is more stable but fat is recognized by all sys
[10:55] <darkkyokusanagi> i have only XMMS via ALSA for use SPDIF
[10:55] <iKernel> when is this gonna finish?!
[10:55] <nikol> where can i find the plugins for ubuntu 5.04 to play mp3,mpg,mpeg,dvd etc...????
[10:56] <Nameeater> tried to use the automounter but it doesn't see it, how can i list hdd's and partitions?
[10:56] <pornsurfer> How can i setup dual monitor with Ubuntu?  To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:56] <j2daosh> system...administration...disks
[10:56] <iKernel> nikol: Install xmms and xine. Open up synaptic, and use it to install xmms, and also use it to install xine.
[10:57] <victor3d> hello
[10:57] <nikol> iKernel: i looked in synaptic but i did not find xmms and xine!!!
[10:57] <j2daosh> ok another question... i can touch a file in my home directory but nowhere else without having to do a sudo... even if i create a directory in the / directory
[10:57] <coz> hello
[10:58] <j2daosh> why is that? if i make the file and directory i should be able to mod anytime anyway i want correct?
[10:58] <odat> iKernel, xine  nah mplayer
[10:58] <victor3d> please tell me how to add application to gnome menu?
[10:58] <coz> Nikol you have to have all ther respositories activated
[10:58] <j2daosh> how so i make it so i can mod anything without sudo unless it is specifically owned by root
[10:58] <j2daosh> ?
[10:58] <pornsurfer> does ubuntu even have capability to do dual monitor?
[10:58] <sudharsh> j2daosh: u have write access only yo ur home dir
[10:58] <blue-frog> j2daosh, root made the directory and it's owned by rooot
[10:58] <coz> prnsurfer yes
[10:58] <j2daosh> go to applications... system tools... menu editor
[10:58] <odat> nikol, go with mplayer  just does stuff better   xine mozilla plugin stinks
[10:58] <coz> nikol do you need help with this
[10:59] <iKernel> j2daosh: You mean other users' stuff?
[10:59] <j2daosh> no i mean my stuff
[10:59] <coz> nickol what are you trying to sso
[10:59] <coz> do
[10:59] <iKernel> j2daosh: Oh ok. Already done for you.
[10:59] <zdux0012> could I ask for help on how to do a firmware upgrade on a capture card
[10:59] <iKernel> j2daosh: Unless you installed some stuffs in your home dir as root, no problem.
[10:59] <pornsurfer> can someone point me in the right direction to get dual monitor setup on ubuntu?
[10:59] <coz> odat is right nikol
[10:59] <j2daosh> i had to sudo mkdir and all that because it wouldn't let me create one... but now i gotta sudo anytime i make a file... mod a file or want to del a file...
[10:59] <darkkyokusanagi> Where can i found a good how-to for installing and configuring ubuntu 5.10?
[10:59] <odat> coz, thanx
[10:59] <odat> :)
[11:00] <coz> :) nor prob guy
[11:00] <jawshoewah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6880 make problems
[11:00] <blue-frog> j2daosh, sudo makes root owner...
[11:00] <coz> nikol are you still here
[11:00] <j2daosh> what group do i need to be apart of to make/mod/del files
[11:00] <nikol> what is odat coz?
[11:00] <victor3d> j2daosh: Add/Remove programs?
[11:00] <j2daosh> without root
[11:00] <coz> odat is one person here
[11:00] <gerald> how do I disable teh computer speaker?
[11:00] <odat> i'm a guy nikol
[11:00] <odat> lol
[11:00] <j2daosh> vic... u on ubuntu?
[11:00] <odat> nikol you need a good repositories list
[11:00] <iKernel> j2daosh: Sounds like the stuff in your home dir is owned by root. What a shame.
[11:00] <coz> nikol do you need help with this and what are you trying to do
[11:00] <blue-frog> j2daosh, you create your folder/files in your home directory
[11:00] <victor3d> j2daosh: i don't have menu editor in ubuntu
[11:01] <coz> nikol hello?
[11:01] <nikol> i;m trying
[11:01] <j2daosh> u dont have an icon for applications... then system tools... then application menu editor?
[11:01] <coz> trying what?
[11:01] <nikol> to play mp3's and
[11:01] <nikol> dvd,mpeg
[11:01] <liable> j2daosh: so change the perme/owner/group for it..
[11:01] <j2daosh> what if i dont want the files in my home directory though
[11:01] <pornsurfer> does ubuntu have built in support for dual monitor, or do i have to get something?
[11:01] <coz> OH well that may take a bit more time unless you want to use automatix
[11:01] <coz> but some people don't like that
[11:02] <j2daosh> with the chown command?
[11:02] <nikol> ...
[11:02] <victor3d> j2daosh: no i don't have this one.... please tell me which command should i execute to configure the menu?
[11:02] <liable> chown chgrp chmod.. whatever is neccsary
[11:02] <coz> nikol we could have ypu uo and running in about 15 minutes maybe more
[11:02] <nikol> automatix is what???
[11:02] <coz> atomatix a script to download an isntal many fo the things youwant
[11:03] <coz> hold on I will get it for you
[11:03] <nikol> ...
[11:03] <gerald> how do I turn off the computer speaker/
[11:03] <j2daosh> no idea from the command line
[11:03] <liable> doh
[11:03] <odat> coz, that thing is a little too much i think but for a newbie i guess its cool
[11:03] <j2daosh> gerald... u talking about the beep or muting?
[11:03] <liable> not the 64 one!
[11:04] <jawshoewah> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6880 make problems
[11:04] <j2daosh> bimberi, hows it haning guy... long time no see
[11:04] <nikol> i'm the newbie
[11:04] <nikol> !!
[11:04] <ubotu> ??
[11:04] <pornsurfer> anyway to force ubuntu to use the other monitor connected to my video card?
[11:04] <gerald> i want to get rid of the beeping
[11:04] <j2daosh> open a terminal
[11:04] <jose> hi guys, can anyone help me setting up my wireless? i'm getting crazy :D
[11:04] <rawler__> ompaul, Hendikins: I'll be damned.. seems like the problem were in zeroconf.. damn zeroconf crap.. *pissed*
[11:04] <bimberi> hey j2daosh, not too bad :) you?
[11:04] <coz> nikol are you using ubuntu breezy?
[11:04] <nikol> nop
[11:04] <jose> i don't know how to configure the file /etc/network/interfaces
[11:04] <j2daosh> go to edit... current profile... change the tinkerbell option
[11:04] <coz> what are you using
[11:04] <nikol> hoary
[11:04] <gerald> not too bad :) you?
[11:05] <coz> Oh well I don't know abouthoary and automatix
[11:05] <rawler__> ompaul, Hendikins: when bringing lo up, as far as I understand, zeroconf tried to negotiate link-local address over a loopback interface.. :S
[11:05] <ompaul> rawler__, exactly what was the problem
[11:05] <coz> if you want to try it that;s ok but I haven't
[11:05] <odat> Nikol, go here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:05] <coz> nikol here http://rapidshare.de/files/8990420/automatix-ubuntu_v3.4.8.tar.gz.html
[11:05] <coz> just incase you want to try it
[11:05] <j2daosh> bimberi, not a whole lot... im helping people lol... only had this like 3 weeks and im somewhat knowledgeable now lol... crazy aint it. im gonna start working on learning perl today... supposedly i can learn it in 21 days. lets see if the book lies
[11:06] <rawler__> ompaul: well, seems like ifup lo triggered an attempt to negotiate link-local address on it.. I'm not surprised that did not work.. ;)
[11:06] <odat> coz, guess what
[11:06] <iKernel> woot woot! finished compileing. now for make install
[11:06] <j2daosh> rawler... ssh with freenx problem?
[11:07] <nikol> coz can we have a private conversation?
[11:07] <j2daosh> jenda, whats up... had your coffee yet
[11:07] <j2daosh> lol
[11:07] <odat> coz, i went into kde room got in a fight they tried to tell me you didn't need to liscense QT to write commercial software i sent them to this link http://www.trolltech.com/developer/faqs/index.html?catid=1953&id=159     and they banned me from talking to the channel lolololol
[11:08] <Ng> troll
[11:08] <j2daosh> and what the hell man... ur over in europe... u should be up already... lol its like almost noon there
[11:08] <kemik> Ng:  yeah, it says so in the link "trolltech" ;)
[11:08] <kemik> hihi
[11:08] <johnjohn> coffee... hmmm it's 2am here...... tempting but i'll pass
[11:08] <ompaul> j2daosh, no it is like ------- 10:08 am
[11:08] <iKernel> j2daosh: I knew a guy who slept till 1 pm
[11:08] <j2daosh> 4 am here
[11:09] <j2daosh> and ill be getting some of that on the way to work lol
[11:09] <iKernel> 9 pm here
[11:09] <jenda> j2daosh hey there. You're right - but I'm sick. I got the right to be in bed :)
[11:09] <j2daosh> oh ok well if your sick its ok... i wont give you too much flak for being lazy
[11:09] <j2daosh> om... not in the uk
[11:10] <iKernel> woot woot gcc finished install. bout time.
[11:10] <j2daosh> jenda aren't u in like german or somewhere around that timezone?
[11:10] <jenda> j2daosh: Czech Rep. - yup, that TZ
[11:10] <jenda> Mega OT
[11:10] <j2daosh> yeah that one lol
[11:11] <iKernel> Guys, why did the penguin cross the ice?
[11:11] <j2daosh> because it got pushed?
[11:11] <iKernel> j2daosh: nope
[11:11] <iKernel> give up?
[11:11] <j2daosh> it slipped and couldn't stop?
[11:11] <iKernel> lol nup
[11:11] <j2daosh> because there was a windows box on the other side it wanted to break?
[11:11] <iKernel> heh heh... nup
[11:12] <j2daosh> uhh... no idea
[11:12] <iKernel> To get to the other side! XD
[11:12] <j2daosh> lol
[11:12] <nikol> is there anyone who want's a private conversation with me? (i have 1002 questions :(  )
[11:12] <coz> he wanted to
[11:12] <coz> nikol I will
[11:13] <coz> nikol are you registered?
[11:13] <nikol> nop
[11:13] <coz> can't do it
[11:14] <nikol> :(
[11:14] <coz> Ok nikol lsets start
[11:14] <nikol> okz
[11:14] <mikelo> i get this when i apt-cache search "Couldn't stat source package list"
[11:14] <coz> did you get all of the sources list
[11:15] <nikol> at first i wanna play mp3,mpg etc but i am in internet cafe and the os is winxp!
[11:15] <nikol> i must download the plugins etc...
[11:15] <coz> oh can't help unless it is your xp machine
[11:15] <coz> and that is all by default in xp
[11:15] <iKernel> This better work this time, I have done CC=gcc3
[11:15] <iKernel> AWW WHAT?!!?
[11:16] <kemik> iKernel:  ?
[11:16] <iKernel> oh wait... here's the problem
[11:16] <iKernel> Unable to find the compiler specified in the CC environnment variable: "gcc3".
[11:16] <iKernel> hmm
[11:16] <kemik> gcc-3.X
[11:16] <kemik> i guess
[11:16] <Ng> nikol: the RestrictedFormats wiki page explains how to obtain the plugins for mp3, etc.
[11:16] <jenda> nikol: eeww.... Are you asking US about XP? No offence, but try asking in ##windows
[11:16] <nikol> but i can download the packages and install them to my pc
[11:16] <iKernel> I'll try CC=gcc-3.4.5
[11:16] <kemik> iKernel:  use the compiler that you've installed
[11:16] <jenda> nikol: oh I get it now. sorry.
[11:16] <nikol> no i say about ubuntu
[11:17] <nikol> :)
[11:17] <kemik> gc<tab> will give you a filename list
[11:17] <iKernel> kemik: yeah
[11:17] <iKernel> hmm k
[11:17] <iKernel> only gcc 4 there :(
[11:17] <jenda> nikol: that is rather difficult. You will need a complete list of packages + dependencies and then DL them all manually.
[11:17] <Nameeater> ikernel: nvidia drivers?
[11:17] <iKernel> this is gay, I've waited ages for this to compile
[11:17] <kemik> apt-get the version of gcc you need then
[11:18] <iKernel> Nameeater: nope
[11:18] <Nameeater> o
[11:18] <Nameeater> are you using sudo?
[11:18] <iKernel> kemik: No gcc-3.4.5 in the repos. There's gcc-3.4.4 tho
[11:18] <Ng> iKernel: there's no need to be homophobic
[11:18] <iKernel> Naeeater: Root prompt.
[11:18] <darkkyokusanagi> Where can i find a good guide for ubuntu breezy?
[11:18] <Nameeater> wierd :<
[11:18] <iKernel> Ng: What's homophobic?
[11:18] <s_spiff> crap! i couldn't install Linux DC++!
[11:18] <iKernel> :P
[11:18] <Ng> iKernel: "this is gay" - that's a really stupid insult
[11:19] <nikol> jenda: and what i must do???
[11:19] <iKernel> Ng: It wasn't an insult :)
[11:19] <Ng> either way it was irrelevant
[11:19] <iKernel> meh
[11:19] <iKernel> I'll install gcc-3.4.4 and hope it works.
[11:20] <Ng> what are you trying to do? compile a kernel module?
[11:20] <Ng> if so 3.4.4 is the right one
[11:20] <iKernel> Ng: ok
[11:20] <iKernel> even though my kernel was compiled with gcc-3.4.5? cool
[11:20] <kemik> it's gay = it's jolly
[11:20] <kemik> heh
[11:20] <Ng> if it's the ubuntu stock kernel then it was compiled with 3.4.4 :)
[11:20] <Ng> cat /proc/version
[11:21] <nikol> kaneis ellinas edw??
[11:21] <mikelo> i get this when i apt-cache search "Couldn't stat source package list"
[11:21] <jenda> well... my guess is that the best way to do this all is 1) write a list of all the stuff you want to install 2) check HOWTOs on all of them... 3) and when you get home, type sudo apt-get install <all the packages> and then apt will list all the packages that it will install. You should copy that and go download them all from the cafe...
[11:22] <ilba7r> mikelo, try sudo apt-get update first
[11:22] <mikelo> ok
[11:23] <iKernel> I like it how synaptic install locally :)
[11:23] <jenda> nikol: then you will need to put all these packages in the apt/cache directory or simply add the CD as a repo. Yeah that's better. then remove all the internet repos and run sudo apt-get update, and the install all the packages with the command you used before.
[11:23] <iKernel> instead of having to download stuff
[11:24] <odat> coz, still here?
[11:24] <jenda> nikol: and perhaps doing this with a live CD would be easier... try asking if they mind.
[11:25] <coz> cos is here sorry
[11:25] <coz> what is it odat
[11:25] <caugier> hi
[11:25] <iKernel> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[11:25] <iKernel> kernel?
[11:25] <odat> coz, did you see my message earlier about the kde channel
[11:25] <coz> no ididn't sorry I was in ubuntuforums
[11:25] <iKernel> Uh oh, does this mean I have to download kernel sources?
[11:25] <coz> what was it
[11:25] <nikol> i have and another prblm... i install apps,etc, and if it is not appears in the menu , i can't find and run this app!!!!
[11:26] <nikol> where is it??
[11:26] <caugier> does anyone have pointers on how to change the kernel in the livecd?
[11:26] <coz> nikol if you install debian menu you will see it
[11:26] <coz>  however go to places and search for files
[11:26] <odat> coz, i went in there and they tried to tell me you didn't have to pay to use Qt for commercial software and i posted this link http://www.trolltech.com/developer/faqs/index.html?catid=1953&id=159   and they banned me from commenting in the room lolololololol
[11:26] <nikol> i don't find them
[11:26] <coz> search in ust
[11:26] <kemik> iKernel:  yes probably
[11:27] <coz> odat hold on I will look
[11:27] <coz> nikol search in usr
[11:27] <nikol> i must install debian menu???
[11:27] <kemik> iKernel:  linux-headers-kernelversion
[11:27] <coz> no but do search for the application
[11:27] <limguohong91> Is it possible to install Photoshop CS 2 on Ubuntu?
[11:27] <iKernel> kemik: Got that installed. Where are the kernel headers installed to?
[11:27] <coz> under places search for files and lookin usr
[11:27] <odat> coz, oops sorry its this link http://www.trolltech.com/developer/faqs/index.html?catid=1953&id=179
[11:27] <nikol> and it says to me ...
[11:27] <nikol> empty
[11:27] <nikol> nothing
[11:27] <kemik> iKernel:  never looked...
[11:27] <iKernel> hmm
[11:28] <aeg> hmm
[11:28] <nnonix> How would I go about finding the version of an installed kernel module (ibm_acpi)?
[11:28] <coz> nikol you have search open
[11:28] <iKernel> found them i think
[11:28] <Ng> odat: software can be commercial and gpl, but this is all off-topic for here, you want #ubuntu-offtopic or another channel ;)
[11:28] <coz> you areon hoary so i assume it is the same as breezy for this
[11:28] <pornsurfer> i downloaded this:    http://download.videolan.org/pub/libdvdcss/1.2.9/deb/libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb   where do i put it to run this:   sudo dpkg -i libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb
[11:29] <coz> odat I will have to look at this later
[11:29] <odat> coz, cool
[11:29] <odat> Ng, just letting everyone here know they made the right choice
[11:29] <coz> nikol did you open find files
[11:29] <kemik> pornsurfer:  in a terminal
[11:30] <coz> odat waht is this about?
[11:30] <Ng> odat: I expect there are plenty of KDE users here and that nobody feels the need for your validation of their choices, but ok ;)
[11:30] <coz>  I didn't read it yet
[11:30] <iKernel> *gulp* I need kernel-source package installed. There isn't one in repos for 2.6.12
[11:30] <pornsurfer> kemik, i tried typing that in a trtminal , and it says it cant find the file
[11:30] <kemik> pornsurfer:  dont have to put the file in a specific location aslong as your user can aceess it
[11:30] <iKernel> Where can I download the kernel sources?
[11:30] <kemik> pornsurfer:  make sure you're in the directory where you downloaded the .deb
[11:30] <coz> synaptic  ikernel
[11:30] <Ng> iKernel: there's a package called linux-source-2.6.12
[11:30] <pornsurfer> i am absolutely new to linix so, what exactly does that mean for me?
[11:30] <Glutinous> kernel.org
[11:30] <iKernel> Ng: Ah k
[11:30] <odat> Ng, sorry get a little proactive about things i believe in
[11:30] <Ng> iKernel: or there's linux-tree-2.6.12 which also grabs the ubuntu patches
[11:30] <iKernel> kk
[11:31] <nikol> synaptic yes
[11:31] <coz> what did you type pornsurfer
[11:31] <aeg> just did a install of ubunto   "boot: linux"   it didn't ask for a root paswd ... or did i miss something ?
[11:31] <nikol> ikernel nop
[11:31] <kemik> pornsurfer:  in what directory did you put the file ?
[11:31] <pornsurfer> kemik, desktop
[11:31] <coz> I am lost again
[11:31] <Ng> aeg: by default there is no root password, the account is disabled and you use "sudo" to perform root-level tasks
[11:31] <kemik> pornsurfer:  in a terminal do this: "cd ~/Desktop" "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb"
[11:31] <kemik> (where foo is the name of the file )
[11:31] <pornsurfer> kemik, thanks, i will try
[11:31] <burbz> anybody got a good java install tut for ubuntu? found some, but unable to track down java-package.
[11:32] <iKernel> Ng: ok, which one is recommended?
[11:32] <kemik> !tell burbz about java
[11:32] <kemik> !tell burbz about javadebs
[11:32] <Ng> iKernel: probably linux-tree-2.6.12
[11:32] <iKernel> k
[11:32] <jenda> nikol: you can always run thm through the command line
[11:32] <burbz> kemik: thanks alot
[11:33] <jenda> nikol: and you can usually find the executables in /bin /usr/bin /usr/share/bin etc.
[11:33] <coz> I have not slept, drinking coffee, and chewing on a peach cigar
[11:33] <victor3d> j2daosh: one more question to u?
[11:33] <coz> i am ready to help if I can
[11:33] <jenda> yo me too
[11:34] <victor3d> j2daosh: when i run ./configure for the Licq it says that X couldn't be found.... but it exists.... what to do??
[11:34] <s_spiff> anyone here tried installing LinuxDC++?
[11:34] <nikol> coz: :D
[11:34] <kemik> s_spiff:  mmh think it's the one im using
[11:34] <kemik> s_spiff:  there's a .deb for it
[11:34] <s_spiff> where?
[11:34] <pornsurfer> kemik, i tried that and all i got is    >
[11:34] <jenda> s_spiff I did...
[11:34] <coz> nikol :K
[11:34] <s_spiff>  i've been trying like a nut...i simply cant get one!
[11:34] <s_spiff>  wher can i get a .deb!
[11:35] <coz> thanks jenda
[11:35] <s_spiff>  jenda , where can i find a .deb of it?
[11:35] <nikol> the executables are in the bin's heh?
[11:35] <kemik> pornsurfer:  without the quotes right ?
[11:35] <nikol> mmmm
[11:35] <coz> s_spiff of what?
[11:35] <mikelo> i can't connect to my dsl provider with pppoeconfig
[11:35] <kemik> pornsurfer:  ctrl-c will escape you from the >
[11:35] <jenda> s_spiff: /dev/jenda is searching
[11:35] <pornsurfer> kemik, i dont know anything about this stuff yet.... can you type like i should do it ?
[11:36] <kemik> pornsurfer:  and dont use the "" ;)
[11:36] <iKernel> hmm, ubuntu don't come with wine.
[11:36] <victor3d> people howto make Licq program if ./configure says what i don't have X???
[11:36] <aeg> I'm loggedin as the default user from the install: sudo  and su - ask's for a password (sorry for the dump question)
[11:36] <nikol> and hah what is the extension for executables??
[11:36] <s_spiff> LinuxDC++
[11:36] <coz> nikol no extension to be seen
[11:36] <s_spiff> jenda and kemik have installed it...so askin them, wher i can find a .deb for it
[11:36] <iKernel> aeg: Just type in your password
[11:36] <pornsurfer> kemik, i will try without ""
[11:36] <kemik> pornsurfer:  in a terminal do this: "cd ~/Desktop<ENTER>" "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb<ENTER>" and no quotes! ;)
[11:36] <kemik> s_spiff:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42084&page=1&pp=10
[11:37] <aeg> iKernel: Ok sorry it works thx
[11:37] <pornsurfer> kemik, thanks !
[11:37] <coz> s_spiff here you go http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76643.html
[11:37] <iKernel> aeg: No problem.
[11:38] <LemLapLin> how do i install an app from source?
[11:38] <nikol> from where i can download xine????
[11:38] <coz> Ok people this coffe and cigar are really makeing me hyper, so I want to help even though i don't know aything
[11:38] <s_spiff> yeah kemik i tried it
[11:38] <kemik> LemLapLin:  you compile it
[11:38] <s_spiff>  didnt work
[11:38] <kemik> LemLapLin:  usually ./configure | make | make install
[11:38] <jenda> nikol: it's in the repos : xine-ui
[11:38] <LemLapLin> any wiki entries about it kemik ?
[11:38] <pornsurfer> kemik, it says it cannot find the file, is there a better place i can put it to do this other than desk?
[11:38] <kemik> LemLapLin:  and you'll need the build-essential package installed
[11:38] <kemik> !compile
[11:39] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[11:39] <coz> nikol sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[11:39] <victor3d> please please help me!! how to compile the program that says i don't have X but i have one!!!
[11:39] <coz> in the terminal
[11:39] <kemik> pornsurfer:  the location should not matter
[11:39] <kemik> pornsurfer:  type "ls"  and see if the file is there even
[11:39] <Glutinous> victor3d, you probably need to install the X11 development packages
[11:39] <s_spiff>  coz, thank you...i finally got the deb package!!! ya!
[11:39] <s_spiff> yay!*
[11:39] <coz> great
[11:39] <thoreauputic_> victor3d: not sure what you mean but try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:40] <pornsurfer> kemik, do i do this while i am in the desk directory?
[11:40] <kemik> pornsurfer:  yes
[11:40] <pornsurfer> kemik, ok , i appreciate the help
[11:40] <coz> thoreauputic_ type that into the terminal
[11:40] <nikol> ahhhhhhhh! i installed the totem but it needs plugins to play movies
[11:40] <kemik> pornsurfer:  'ls' lists files in a directory
[11:40] <nnonix> How would I go about finding the version of an installed kernel module (ibm_acpi)? Anyone?
[11:40] <thoreauputic_> coz: erm...
[11:40] <coz> nikol yes it does you want to get them
[11:40] <nikol> from?
[11:41] <thoreauputic_> coz: didi you mean that for victor3d ?
[11:41] <coz> hold on oepn the terminal
[11:41] <coz> therputic I really don't remember now
[11:41] <nikol> (sorry, but am newbie in linux)
[11:41] <pornsurfer> kemik, i did what you said and it found this on the desktop  :   libdvdcss2_1.2.9-1_i386.deb
[11:41] <coz> applications
[11:41] <pornsurfer> I beeez stumped
[11:41] <coz> accessories I think''
[11:41] <Pygi> freaky: ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping ping
[11:42] <kemik> pornsurfer:  and what are you typing when using dpkg ?
[11:42] <coz> nikol did you find it the terminal
[11:42] <Pygi> dpkg -i package.deb
[11:42] <pornsurfer> what you said to do earlier
[11:42] <pornsurfer> kemik, sudo dpkg -i foo.deb"
[11:42] <kemik> pornsurfer:  well, replace foo.deb with the actual filename ;)
[11:42] <pornsurfer> "actual filename"
[11:42] <pornsurfer> i did, sorry
[11:43] <iKernel> One problem after the next. >:(
[11:43] <pornsurfer> it didnt work
[11:43] <coz> guys in hoary is the terminal under applications /accessories
[11:43] <ludi> How do I get greek text to show up in Greek letters instead of characters that look like boxes with numbers and letters in them?
[11:43] <kemik> hmmmmmm.. that should work
[11:43] <Ng> the quickest way to install libdvdcss is: sudo apt-get install libdvdread3 ; sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[11:43] <ludi> How do I get greek text to show up in Greek letters instead of characters that look like boxes with numbers and letters in them?
[11:43] <nikol> ludi ellinas??
[11:43] <ludi> sorry for double-post
[11:43] <kemik> pornsurfer:  take Ng's advice.. im of to eat
[11:43] <jenda> s_spiff: You said you tried the howto on the fora?
[11:43] <ludi> nikol:  what?
[11:43] <coz> nikol did you open the terminal?
[11:43] <pornsurfer> kemik, thanks for the help !
[11:44] <sorush20> what is the command for adding a line to a file?
[11:44] <nikol> nop i can't i'm running xp :(
[11:44] <kemik> pornsurfer:  np, just keep trying :)
[11:44] <coz> oh that's right
[11:44] <thoreauputic_> sorush20: echo "your line here" >> file
[11:44] <coz> i don't know anything but I will help you anyway
[11:44] <iKernel> bah, I'll just change vermagic.h to version.h
[11:44] <thoreauputic_> sorush20: if I understood you correctly
[11:44] <sorush20> thoreauputic what about tee
[11:45] <pornsurfer> Ng,  i did that and it returned this :   0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 478 not upgraded.
[11:45] <thoreauputic_> sorush20:  tee -a  (adds rather than clobbering the file)
[11:45] <pornsurfer> Ng, what does this mean>?
[11:45] <jawshoewah> preface....i know that most of you hate helping noobs with simple procedures butincase someone has some patience left...
[11:45] <Ng> pornsurfer: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[11:45] <Ng> pornsurfer: you probably missed that bit
[11:45] <coz> jawshoewah what is up
[11:45] <thoreauputic_> sorush20: you pipe through tee -->  echo foo | tee -a file
[11:46] <jawshoewah> howto do anunzip?
[11:46] <pornsurfer> Ng, i miss everything, i am new !
[11:46] <s_spiff> yeah
[11:46] <s_spiff>  didnt work for me..jenda
[11:46] <sorush20> thoreauputic interesting
[11:46] <coz> jawshoewah anunzip
[11:46] <jenda> s_spiff: I have no idea then...
[11:46] <jawshoewah> I was on the ubuntu forum I found a mmorpg that was in Native
[11:46] <iKernel> m
[11:46] <coz> you mean unzip something
[11:46] <jawshoewah> anunzip is the command?
[11:46] <sorush20> thoreauputic I think I'm gonna like command line.. if only it had predictive abilities
[11:46] <s_spiff> in windows I could set a certain ip for my pc
[11:46] <ilba7r> thoreauputic, hi how are you.
[11:46] <s_spiff>  how to do that in linux?
[11:46] <s_spiff> i'
[11:46] <s_spiff> i'm using pppoe
[11:46] <iKernel> take hammer to this program in a minute!!
[11:47] <burbz> this java crap is making me wanna kill somebody.. it WONT install java-package, so im pretty much fucked. have added the main restrictive universe multiverse through adept gui, but it refuses to work.
[11:47] <jenda> Anyone know why my kernel won't upgrade to 2.6.12-10 and is stuck at -9?
[11:47] <thoreauputic_> !javadeb
[11:47] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/
[11:47] <coz> bubz you want help
[11:47] <jawshoewah> coz: an unzip
[11:47] <pornsurfer> Ng, is this normal?     warning: downgrading libdvdcss2 from 1.2.9-1 to 1.2.5-1.
[11:47] <coz> right click and expand here
[11:47] <burbz> coz, you talking to me?
[11:47] <coz> burbz yes
[11:48] <burbz> coz, yes please
[11:48] <iKernel> jenda: :D I'm pretty sure 2.6.12 comes with ubuntu-breezy
[11:48] <Ng> pornsurfer: that probably means you had installed the other version you downloaded, but it shouldn't matter
[11:48] <coz> ok I will send you the official sun java hold on
[11:48] <iKernel> jenda: 2.6.12-10 sorry
[11:48] <jawshoewah> wow that filled my desktop pretty good
[11:48] <coz> burbz are you running breezy?
[11:48] <pornsurfer> Ng, thats a wonder, i thought i DIDNT install it....
[11:48] <Ng> jenda: what does a "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" say? (please use a pastebin for the output)
[11:48] <s_spiff> need help! hey is there somehthing like a GUI for adding extra ip's ad..or gateways..or subnet masks?
[11:48] <burbz> coz, i've got the jdk-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin, and im running breezy, 5.10 or something
[11:49] <pornsurfer> Ng, thanks for the help !
[11:49] <Ng> pornsurfer: no probs :)
[11:49] <coz> Ok put the packae into your home folder
[11:49] <blue-frog> s_spiff, to what?
[11:49] <jenda> iKernel: well apt-get most definitely downgraded mine, then... it's at -9
[11:49] <burbz> coz, could we do this in msg?
[11:49] <jawshoewah> i just made a folder now put that in home?
[11:49] <Seveas> coz, install java-package from multiverse and use make-jpkg to turn the .bin into a .deb which you can install
[11:49] <coz> you mean i private?
[11:49] <jenda> Ng: is it safe to do that?
[11:49] <coz> I will try
[11:50] <burbz> Seveas: i've tried that one, but it cant find java-package, i've added the respotitories
[11:50] <s_spiff> blue-frog  in windows i could right click on my connectiong say properties/... >TCP/IP and then add ip add, dns servers..anyways in linux to do it?
[11:50] <burbz> coz, yes, private
[11:50] <jawshoewah> what would the command chmod to 775 do?
[11:50] <blue-frog> s_spiff, system>adminstration>network
[11:50] <xored> is there a way to get xchat tunning with a psybnc ?
[11:50] <s_spiff> ok..then?
[11:50] <coz> well I am trying it is waiting for you it says
[11:50] <Ng> jenda: should be, yes
[11:50] <aeg> s_spiff: thats all set in /etc/network/interfaces ...    but i don't know about pppoe
[11:51] <Pygi> coz: the dcc doesnt work lately :PPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPppppppp
[11:51] <Pygi> xchat problems
[11:51] <coz> burbz hold on I will send you the .deb package
[11:51] <Seveas> !info java-package
[11:51] <ubotu> java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section multiverse/misc, is optional.  Beware
[11:51] <mikelo> hi how do i update my jdk and jre to 1.5?
[11:51] <pornsurfer> Ng, Thank you !!! it is playing my dvd now !
[11:51] <Seveas> !tell mikelo about javadebs
[11:52] <Pygi> Seveas: yes, now I shall be kick/banned forever :P
[11:52] <Seveas> burbz, you can also grab a pre-cooked java .deb file
[11:52] <Ng> pornsurfer: :)
[11:52] <burbz> Seveas: from adept/apt-get?
[11:52] <Pygi> ubotu tell bubrz about javadebs
[11:52] <pornsurfer> <----    :)
[11:52] <Seveas> burbz, yep
[11:52] <burbz> its the wrong version, just 1.4.2
[11:52] <supernoob> chmod to 775?????????
[11:52] <Seveas> burbz, you need another repository ;)
[11:53] <burbz> indeed i do
[11:53] <Seveas> !tell burbz about javadebs
[11:53] <dorto> which version of ubuntu is being sent by 'shipit' currently? breezy badger?
[11:53] <Seveas> dorto, correct
[11:53] <Pygi> seveas, ubotu told him that laready :P
[11:53] <Pygi> read up :P
[11:53] <dorto> k, thx
[11:53] <superannoyingnoo> is chmod to 775 a command?
[11:53] <Seveas> superannoyingnoo, yes
[11:53] <Pygi> chmod 775 is command
[11:53] <geokker> guys, Ubuntu open office Impress, how do I anti-alias shapes?
[11:53] <superannoyingnoo> cool ty
[11:53] <pornsurfer> Ng, heres one more:  how can i make ubuntu use my other attached monitor as the primary?
[11:53] <blue-frog> superannoyingnoo, man chmod
[11:53] <superannoyingnoo> k
[11:53] <geokker> they are horrifically jaggy a la 1982
[11:53] <Ng> pornsurfer: what kind of graphics card(s) do you have?
[11:53] <pornsurfer> i have nvidia ti4400
[11:53] <coz> burbz hold on it is uploading
[11:54] <superannoyingnoo> man hardely ever works for the progs I like
[11:54] <superannoyingnoo> usually nothing in them
[11:54] <Pygi> surfer: installed drivers?
[11:54] <Ng> pornsurfer: with two monitors connected to that single card? you can use both monitors if you want :)
[11:54] <coz> burbz actually you already have the one package lets go from there
[11:54] <pornsurfer> Ng, i use them both with XP, but i dont know how with ubuntu :(
[11:54] <burbz> coz, got the .bin file from java.sun.com
[11:54] <coz> burbz in a terminal type the folowing
[11:54] <burbz> coz, as root or regular user
[11:54] <burbz> ?
[11:55] <coz> burbz chmod +x jre-1 wahtever your file name is
[11:55] <r0sk> hi ppl
[11:55] <coz> root
[11:55] <Ng> pornsurfer: I wrote a quick description of how I did it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaMultipleMonitors
[11:55] <burbz> done
[11:55] <xored> is there a way to get xchat tunning with a psybnc ?
[11:55] <burbz> coz, and its a jdk package
[11:55] <r0sk> is there any backport to install java-1.5 on hoary please?
[11:55] <ludi> How do I get greek text to show up in Greek letters instead of characters that look like boxes with numbers and letters in them?
[11:55] <coz> ok hold on
[11:55] <Ng> pornsurfer: start reading at "Quick and dirty guide to using nVidia TwinView"
[11:55] <carlos_> jo
[11:55] <coz> you want the whole shebang
[11:56] <jenda> Ng: yuck.... reminds me of QDOS
[11:56] <burbz> yes, need the javac command and all
[11:56] <ubuntu> bah
[11:56] <pornsurfer> Ng, awesome! i will give it a read .   also, do you know why when i set my monitors to be centered with XP , the screen is offset with ubuntu? tghis is weird, and the primary monitor is switched
[11:56] <burbz> coz, we're compiling java scripts via term
[11:56] <vagegast> ubuntu refuses to mount my hdd :(
[11:56] <bimberi> r0sk: http://www.giannaros.org/buntu/hoary/i386/
[11:57] <Ng> pornsurfer: it's probably picked slightly different default refresh rates, you might be able to set them to the same as XP with the Screen Resolution tool in System->Preferences
[11:57] <Pygi> vegavest: what hdd? /etc/fstab?
[11:57] <coz> V ok guy
[11:57] <Glutinous> pornsurfer, try using the official nvidia drivers too
[11:57] <coz> burbz ok guy
[11:57] <pornsurfer> Ng, nt know how to install the nvidia drivers
[11:58] <ludi> How do I set my locale?
[11:58] <Pygi> ubotu tell pornsurfer about nvidia
[11:58] <pornsurfer> Shaweeeee!!
[11:59] <r0sk> bimberi: thanks a lot!
[11:59] <pornsurfer> Ng, i will try to do the nvidia drivers now
[11:59] <Ng> pornsurfer: yeah, make sure you have the nvidia drivers working fine first :)
[11:59] <burbz> coz, need to get the whole java-package thingy to work, or else i cant do shit
[11:59] <bimberi> r0sk: np :)
[11:59] <coz> I am still waiting for the upload to finish
[11:59] <coz> burbz hold on
[11:59] <burbz> okay
[11:59] <Krishnautix> hey I installed xipmsg, a lan messenger, wanted to know, how to add it to my Applications Menu?
[12:00] <burbz> coz, ill hold, no problem.
[12:00] <pornsurfer> Ng, i will be at this one a while i think ;)
[12:00] <nikol> i have log in as administrator but it says that i have no permission to write etc to many folders and files.. how i can get the permission to do everything???
[12:00] <jenda> Ng: I'm apting something that'll take a long time, so I'll run the dist upgrade then. I'll be back! :)
[12:00] <Ng> pornsurfer: it's pretty easy if you follow the wiki instructions :)
[12:00] <coz>  you can always automatix
[12:00] <Ng> jenda: ok
[12:00] <thoreauputic_> !automatix
[12:00] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[12:00] <burbz> coz, automatix?
[12:00] <coz> V yes hold on that is smaller
[12:00] <superannoyingnoo> would chmod 775 be a valid argument?
[12:01] <burbz> superannoyingnoo: yes, if you apply it to a folder or a file
[12:01] <bimberi> superannoyingnoo: yes, for example "chmod 775 file"
[12:01] <coz> burbz http://rapidshare.de/files/8990420/automatix-ubuntu_v3.4.8.tar.gz.html
[12:01] <nikol> i have log in as administrator but it says that i have no permission to write etc to many folders and files.. how i can get the permission to do everything???
[12:01] <superannoyingnoo> file being the name of the file?
[12:02] <vagegast> type sudo -s -H
[12:02] <bimberi> superannoyingnoo: yes (or directory)
[12:02] <thoreauputic_> !tell nikol about sudo
[12:02] <burbz> coz, can i apt-get automatix?
[12:02] <coz> burbz tell me when you have it
[12:02] <coz> NO
[12:02] <coz> can you get that url
[12:02] <burbz> downloading
[12:02] <burbz> done
[12:02] <jenda> !tell burbz about automatix
[12:03] <coz> ok right click and extract here
[12:03] <redguy> nikol: what do you mean by "i have log in as administrator" ?
[12:03] <coz> some people don't like automatix burbz
[12:03] <jenda> coz...
[12:03] <thoreauputic_> coz: for good reasons
[12:03] <redguy> jenda: coz it might break things
[12:03] <coz> burbz lthoreauputic and redguy
[12:03] <burbz> i just want my java JDK to work
[12:04] <jenda> redguy no need telling me :(
[12:04] <coz> I have NEVER had anything machine or install break because of this
[12:04] <thoreauputic_> coz: which proves absolutely nothing
[12:04] <coz>  burbz it is up to you
[12:04] <redguy> jenda: erm, got a little bit confused there :-)
[12:04] <jenda> coz: we've had MANY reinstalls in #ubuntu because of aut'x
[12:04] <Pygi> !automatix
[12:04] <ubotu> [automatix]  messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[12:04] <burbz> coz, lets doo it
[12:04] <coz> OK burbz right click and extract here
[12:04] <burbz> coz, done
[12:05] <coz> V ok open the file
[12:05] <thoreauputic_> *sigh*
[12:05] <burbz> coz, im in the folder
[12:05] <coz> look for the instll sh and click it and run
[12:05] <jenda> Seveas: I wasn't allowed to promote easyubuntu and automatix pushing is OK???
[12:05] <burbz> jenda, have you got a better way for making my jdk work, let me know
[12:06] <coz>  hold on
[12:06] <coz> guys I do this for a living residential and coporate installs
[12:06] <Seveas> coz, NEVER promote automatix in here
[12:06] <thoreauputic_> coz: so what ?
[12:06] <coz> NEVER a break on any machine commercial or built
[12:06] <Seveas> it is broken, stupid and horrible
[12:06] <Seveas> nxt time will be properly rewarded.
[12:06] <nikol> i have install themes but i can't find them from themes...
[12:07] <coz> well we have started already
[12:07] <Ng> burbz: the best way to install a jdk is to follow the Sun Java instructions on the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[12:07] <burbz> that 'make your own' .deb package of the jdk seemed like a good tutorial, but without the java-package file im lost
[12:07] <Seveas> jenda, pushing automatix is very much NOT ok
[12:07] <vagegast> is there a linux command i could give to format a ntfs HDD containing my old XP bootdrive
[12:07] <coz> yes it is
[12:07] <Ng> burbz: you will turn the .bin download into a .deb and install it in very few steps :)
[12:07] <Seveas> bye coz
[12:07] <burbz> Ng, that 'make your own' .deb package of the jdk seemed like a good tutorial, but without the java-package file im lost
[12:07] <Seveas> we try to help people here, not help them break their system
[12:07] <nikol> i have install themes but i can't find them from themes...
[12:07] <Ng> burbz: java-package is a package in ubuntu, you can get it with "sudo apt-get install java-package", you may need to enable the Multiverse repository first though
[12:07] <nikol> any idea?
[12:08] <vagegast> break their systems? mine is already broken why the h*ll else would i be on ubuntu live cd
[12:08] <burbz> Ng, yeah, i went through the howto that someone gave me, added the multiverse repository, but it still wouldnt work
[12:08] <thoreauputic_> nikol: how did you install them? And have you looked in the "details" tabs ?
[12:08] <Seveas> burbz, put your sources.list on the pastebin
[12:09] <Seveas> let's see if you added it correctly
[12:09] <Pygi> yup, it's probably in details
[12:09] <burbz> Seveas: dumb question, but how do i do that?
[12:09] <vagegast> hmmmz
[12:09] <Ng> it's not a dumb question :)
[12:09] <Pygi> !pastebin
[12:09] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:09] <thoreauputic_> nikol: if it was a tarball, you can install by drag-drop onto the themes dialogue
[12:09] <Pygi> and sources.list is here: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:09] <Seveas> burbz, open the file in a text editor and paste the contents on http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl
[12:10] <Pygi> Seveas: huh, I posted it already :P
[12:10] <Pygi> to be precise, ubotu did :P
[12:10] <burbz> okay, hold on :)
[12:10] <nikol> i install apps etc and i can't find the executable to run!
[12:11] <burbz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6882
[12:11] <burbz> there you go
[12:11] <Pygi> k, lookin'
[12:11] <Seveas> burbz, dif you do an apt-get update after editing that file?
[12:11] <thoreauputic_> nikol: which apps? You can find the executable by running  dpkg -L <packagename> | grep bin  (usually)
[12:11] <burbz> Seveas: no
[12:12] <Seveas> burbz, then do :)
[12:12] <Pygi> huh, ran that :p
[12:12] <Pygi> sudo apt-get update
[12:12] <burbz> and then apt-get install java-package?
[12:12] <Seveas> burbz, the file is still incomplet though, look at paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 for a more complete one
[12:12] <s_spiff> finally!
[12:13] <nbound> everytime i install ubuntu x-64 it will boot to a black screen and freeze
[12:13] <burbz> Seveas: so i can add more mirrors to the list? not just have .no mirrors?
[12:13] <s_spiff> hey people, i need help aghain...
[12:13] <Pygi> nbound: dapper?
[12:14] <nbound> dapper?
[12:14] <s_spiff>  i just installed xipmsg [ a lan msngr]  and i cant c it in the menu, though i installed it via syanptic
[12:14] <burbz> Setting up java-package (0.26) ...
[12:14] <burbz> :DD
[12:14] <Seveas> burbz, no paste 6047 is a complete replacement for what you have, just change www.archive into no.archive for the nrsk mirrors
[12:14] <Pygi> burbz: :P
[12:14] <flodine> anyone have pci express on ubuntu?
[12:15] <Pygi> flodine: issues?
[12:15] <nbound> Pygi: dapper?? :S
[12:15] <burbz> Seveas: ah, i see
[12:15] <Pygi> ubotu tell nbound about dapper
[12:15] <burbz> and after getting java-package installed, i just follow the howto?
[12:15] <s_spiff> brb
[12:15] <Pygi> do you have dapper or what?
[12:15] <nbound> nope
[12:15] <nbound> 5.10
[12:16] <Ng> burbz: yep
[12:16] <Seveas> burbz, the 'howto' is: fakeroot make-jpkg bla.bin && sudo dpkg -i bla.deb
[12:16] <Seveas> :)
[12:16] <Pygi> huh, that x64 has a lot of problems :P
[12:16] <thoreauputic_> burbz: yes - make sure you have the right java file of course
[12:16] <flodine> Pygi so dont get one pciexpress
[12:16] <Pygi> seveas: you are faking howto's
[12:16] <Seveas> (of course replace 'bla' with the appropriate filename)
[12:16] <nbound> Pygi: what one should i use
[12:16] <nbound> get dapper before its released perhaps?
[12:16] <Pygi> nbound: does the 32 bit ubuntu does same?
[12:16] <burbz> Seveas: okay, and should I run this from /usr/local/ or whereever?
[12:16] <Pygi> nbound: u can try :P
[12:16] <thoreauputic_> Seveas: bla: file not found *grin*
[12:17] <Pygi> lol, don't write "bla"
[12:17] <Seveas> burbz, n'importe ou
[12:17] <licre|AFK> bla
[12:17] <nbound> Pygi: dont wanna spend another 7hrs dloading ubuntu 32bit
[12:17] <Seveas> (wherever)
[12:17] <burbz> hehe, okay
[12:17] <Pygi> Seveas: see what happens? :P
[12:17] <Seveas> bla :p
[12:17] <licre|AFK> bra
[12:17] <Pygi> nbound: you can order one :P
[12:17] <Pygi> Seveas: bla :p
[12:17] <Seveas>  /nick bla
[12:18] <thoreauputic_> Pygi: I was kidding in cse you missed the *grin* ;-)
[12:18] <licre|AFK> bala
[12:18] <nbound> Pygi:  that cost money and time :-( :P
[12:18] <licre|AFK> triva!
[12:18] <Pygi> nbound: no ubuntu ships medias for free
[12:18] <burbz> seveas: i get an error when trying apt-get update / sudo apt-get update now, with that example file
[12:18] <Seveas> nbound, ubuntu cd's are free
[12:18] <nbound> even to australia???
[12:18] <Seveas> burbz, errors at the pastebin
[12:19] <Seveas> nbound, worldwide
[12:19] <Pygi> nbound: even to australia
[12:19] <burbz> roger that, hold
[12:19] <nbound> jebus
[12:19] <Seveas> nbound, http://shipit.ubuntu.com
[12:19] <thoreauputic_> nbound: I'm in .au and I got mine a while ago :)
[12:19] <burbz> i think i made a mistake when adding no. to all the mirrors
[12:19] <nbound> thoreauputic_: how long does it take?
[12:19] <liable> adding no?
[12:19] <thoreauputic_> nbound: 4 to 6 weeks
[12:20] <licre|AFK> Is there a special version for .au?
[12:20] <Seveas> burbz, put all the error output on the pastebin and we'll see :)
[12:20] <nbound> hmmm :-/
[12:20] <thoreauputic_> licre|AFK: why would there be?
[12:20] <nbound> licre|AFK:  i cant see why there would be...
[12:20] <Seveas> licre|AFK, yeah, the "G'day mate" version ;)
[12:20] <UncleD> If I want to give ownership to /home/www/* to all users in group "www" what is the proper chown syntax - I want to make sure they own
[12:20] <UncleD> all files following /www/
[12:20] <burbz> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6883
[12:20] <licre|AFK> Gee?
[12:20] <Seveas> UncleD, chown -R :www /var/www/*
[12:20] <UncleD> gracias
[12:20] <thoreauputic_> Seveas: that's the PPC version - the i386 version is the "no worries" version ;)
[12:21] <nbound> hehe
[12:21] <Seveas> burbz, there is no 'no.security.ubuntu.com', that should simply be 'security.ubuntu.com'
[12:21] <UncleD> Seveas: what would case this error: www is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
[12:21] <nbound> he'll spend all this week wondering what "no worries" even means ;-)
[12:21] <burbz> Seveas: but other than that it looks good?
[12:21] <Seveas> UncleD, user www can't use sudo
[12:21] <UncleD> ah
[12:21] <Seveas> only the user you created during the install can do that
[12:22] <Seveas> burbz, yes
[12:22] <burbz> Seveas: it worked
[12:22] <pornsurfer> Ng, i managed to do something wrong. Now ubuntu wont boot, i have no gui. where should i start to fix this?
[12:23] <UncleD> Seveas: Ok, I performed that command and it properly assigned all files in the directory structure /var/www/ to group www - however, a user in my group cannot delete them (is this because they also belong to userid www?)
[12:23] <Ng> pornsurfer: how far does it get into booting?
[12:23] <neoxite> hi, i installed ubuntu 5.10 with server-expert, and now i want to install the usplash loader, but i can't figure out how to get it to display the splashscreen
[12:23] <UncleD> -rw-r--r-- 1 www www<PHONE_NUMBER>-01-10 02:19 testfile.tar.gz
[12:23] <Seveas> UncleD, is that user in the www group?
[12:23] <UncleD> The user www isn't in the www group
[12:23] <UncleD> but the user im trying to delete the file with is
[12:23] <Seveas> well, that explains :)
[12:23] <Seveas> UncleD, ah
[12:24] <Seveas> UncleD, chmod -R g+w /var/www/*
[12:24] <UncleD> is there some kind of conflict?
[12:24] <Seveas> (to make it all group-writable)
[12:24] <neoxite> my kernel does have the 'splash' option set, and it's using the vesafb framebuffer
[12:24] <pornsurfer> Ng, it gets pretty far, then says something about X ... i am not really sure what i did wrong. I was trying to install the nvidia drivers. any way to undo what i did? i tried recovery mode, but i dont know any commands
[12:24] <thoreauputic_> UncleD: you need group writable as Seveas says
[12:24] <nbound> Pygi: would using kubuntu instead fix my prob?
[12:24] <Ng> pornsurfer: you can boot into recovery mode and run "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" - that will reconfigure X and that should fix it
[12:24] <UncleD> aha
[12:25] <burbz> Seveas: it seems to be working now, but i had to run it as a regular user, will this not make the installation global?
[12:25] <s_spiff> hello..need help..
[12:25] <neoxite> anybody know how else is nesessary for usplash to work, maybe some lines in the initrd?
[12:25] <Pygi> nbound: nop
[12:25] <nbound> damn
[12:25] <pornsurfer> Ng, thanks!  i will try that. gotta reboot.
[12:26] <Seveas> neoxite, 'splash' in the kernel commandline and maybe a dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[12:27] <neoxite> Seveas, ok, i'll try dpkg-reconfigure, is that going to modify the init-ramdisk?
[12:28] <UncleD> Seveas: very small paste - http://rafb.net/paste/results/siIynt90.html
[12:28] <Seveas> yes
[12:28] <elyoenai> hi there
[12:28] <Seveas> UncleD, that's in /home/www not /var/www
[12:28] <elyoenai> I need some help with my keyboard
[12:28] <UncleD> why should it make a difference Seveas?
[12:28] <PuMpErNiCkLe> elyoenai: Sure.. what's the problem?
[12:29] <Seveas> UncleD, nothing, misread the rest :)
[12:29] <elyoenai> I cannot type the "at" symbol or other third level symbols
[12:29] <UncleD> Seveas: any idea what's going on there?
[12:29] <Seveas> UncleD, hmm, I don't get it..
[12:29] <nbound> so shipit is definately free :S
[12:29] <elyoenai> I have tried to change the keyboard third level features but wasn't able
[12:30] <noaki> Hi! Can sb help me with the ati driver installation? I found an error in the "Xorg.0.log after configuring the "xorg.conf"
[12:30] <UncleD> Seveas: One thing to notice is that the user 'www' owns the file, yet the user 'www' is not a member of /etc/group (^_^) - any thoughts?
[12:30] <Seveas> UncleD, what's the output of 'id'?
[12:30] <PuMpErNiCkLe> elyoenai: Have you tried changing the keyboard ruleset?  System -> preferences -> keyboard ?
[12:30] <UncleD> ah..
[12:30] <Seveas> if 'www' is not in there, try in a new terminal :)
[12:30] <UncleD> I see the problem now :)
[12:30] <UncleD> good fix :)
[12:30] <UncleD> logged in/ logged out, problem solved
[12:31] <elyoenai> yep I have tried changing the distribution options. U meant that?
[12:31] <UncleD> Ok you earned your @ for the day!
[12:31] <elyoenai> but I get an error
[12:31] <PuMpErNiCkLe> elyoenai: What's the error?
[12:31] <Seveas> hehe :)
[12:31] <burbz> another problem has occured, cant run a java installer as root, but it works fine as regular user, just echos lots of errors when i try..
[12:32] <Seveas> burbz, haw are you running the installer?
[12:32] <burbz> ./file
[12:32] <burbz> after chmod +x'n it
[12:32] <Seveas> don't
[12:32] <Pygi> Seveas: I got a new thingy yesterday that needs to be done... guess in what "language"/framework I am doing it :)
[12:32] <Seveas> it's: fakeroot make-jpkg bla.bin
[12:33] <Seveas> Pygi, brainfuck?
[12:33] <Seveas> (yes, that is a language...)
[12:33] <burbz> Seveas: no, its not the java installation anymore, its a program for linux
[12:33] <elyoenai> error activating XKB due to some kind of error in libxklavier or in X server (xkbcomp, xmodmap utilities) or X server with an incompatible libxkbfile implementation
[12:33] <Seveas> burbz, ah :)
[12:33] <joachim-n> what does "bash: alias: policy: not found
[12:33] <joachim-n> " mean?
[12:34] <Seveas> joachim-n, probably an error in your .bashrc :)
[12:34] <burbz> Seveas: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6884
[12:34] <UncleD> Seveas: How can i make my bashrc leet?
[12:34] <renedox> rm -rf ~/.bashrc --leet
[12:34] <UncleD> sweet
[12:35] <Ng> err
[12:35] <elyoenai> maybe it is usuful to know that I have a Compaq R4000 notebook
[12:35] <UncleD> hey why cant i login to my machine now!
[12:35] <Seveas> UncleD, echo 'echo 1337' >> ~/.bashrc
[12:35] <Ng> renedox: that might be "funny", but it's really not useful
[12:35] <Pygi> Seveas: huh, ok, I won't talk to you anymore then..........
[12:35] <Seveas> Pygi, ?
[12:35] <renedox> Ng: well, I don't think he's really going to do it
[12:36] <UncleD> how do i get back my old .bashrc
[12:36] <Seveas> burbz, as normal user run this: sudo ./bla
[12:36] <Ng> renedox: how wonderful for you, let's hope he thinks that too and everyone else reading
[12:36] <Pygi> Seveas: nvm
[12:36] <renedox> Ng: :|
[12:36] <renedox> Ng: that just took the fun out of everything...
[12:36] <burbz> Seveas: but if i run it as a normal user i cant install it to /usr/local/
[12:36] <Seveas> Pygi, did you ever use brainfuck or whitespace?
[12:36] <burbz> oh, i see, nevermind
[12:37] <Seveas> burbz, that's where the sudo comes in: that makes it run as root in the users environment (ie: with working X)
[12:37] <burbz> ah, learned something new today then :)
[12:37] <Pygi> Seveas: no, whatever that is....
[12:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> elyoenai: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75052.html and http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=15372 seem to offer an explanation and a solution for your problem.
[12:38] <redguy> Pygi: obscure programming languages
[12:38] <Seveas> Pygi, they're evil programming languages you should google them for fun :)
[12:38] <joachim-n> do spaces on the RHS of an alias command in the bash profile need to be quoted or escaped?
[12:38] <s_spiff> boss, someone help!
[12:38] <Seveas> joachim-n, yes
[12:38] <s_spiff>  i just installed xipmg via synaptic
[12:38] <joachim-n> eg alias isinstalled=apt-cache policy
[12:38] <s_spiff>  and i cant c the icon in my App. Menu
[12:38] <s_spiff>  any way to add it there?
[12:38] <joachim-n> should be: alias isinstalled="apt-cache policy"
[12:38] <Seveas> joachim-n, alias foo="ls -al 'something with spaces'"
[12:38] <joachim-n> ok thanks :)
[12:39] <elyoenai> thanx a lot I'll have a look
[12:39] <Pygi> Seveaas: huh :/ I'd rather stick to "regular" languages
[12:39] <Seveas> s_spiff, applications -> system tools -> menu editor
[12:39] <elyoenai> PuMpErNiCkLe, thanx a lot I'll have a look
[12:39] <Seveas> Pygi, /me too
[12:39] <Seveas> but it's fun to know about them
[12:39] <UncleD> Seveas, are you using dapper?
[12:39] <s_spiff> ok
[12:40] <Seveas> UncleD, not yet
[12:40] <nikol> who is the best dvd-player, mp3 player and mpg,avi player ???
[12:40] <renedox> vlc
[12:40] <renedox> videolan.org
[12:41] <Seveas> xine*
[12:41] <noaki> Hi! Can somebody help me to solve a problem with my ati driver?
[12:41] <alvint> noaki: maybe
[12:41] <Seveas> !tell noaki about somebody
[12:41] <Seveas> !tell noaki about someone
[12:41] <s_spiff> Seveas, but even in the menu editor i cant see the program
[12:41] <noaki> yes
[12:41] <noaki> so..
[12:41] <nikol> seveas where i can find the plugins for xine?
[12:42] <s_spiff> in installed via synaptic, so i don't exactly know where it got installed
[12:42] <Seveas> s_spiff, bad luck then, you need to create the .desktop file yourself
[12:42] <Seveas> (or just run it from the terminal
[12:42] <Seveas> )
[12:42] <noaki> i loaded new kernel headers and after doing step by step of a tutorial i configured the xorg.conf with an auto script
[12:42] <s_spiff> ok
[12:42] <noaki> then i had to check the Xorg.0.log for errors
[12:42] <noaki> and i found an fglrx error
[12:42] <noaki> (EE) fglrx(0): incompatible kernel module detected - HW accelerated OpenGL will not work
[12:43] <s_spiff> Seveas, when we install a program, where is it installed as such?
[12:43] <Seveas> s_spiff, all over the system
[12:43] <Seveas> s_spiff, linux uses functional folders, not per-program folders
[12:43] <Seveas> ie: /usr/share/applications contains all menu entries, /usr/lib all libraries and /usr/bin all executables and so on...
[12:44] <s_spiff> hmmm
[12:44] <s_spiff>  i used 'Locate' command, but can't find it..
[12:44] <renedox> uptime
[12:44] <renedox>  00:45:00 up 1 day,  9:20,  2 users,  load average: 0.19, 0.49, 0.58
[12:44] <Seveas> s_spiff, the locate database is only updated daily
[12:45] <thoreauputic_> s_spiff: try  dpkg -L <packagename>
[12:45] <Seveas> s_spiff, try: dpkg -L $packagename
[12:45] <Seveas> !lart thoreauputic
[12:45] <thoreauputic_> Seveas: here i got in ahead : by one second ;)
[12:46] <blue-frog> s_spiff, look in synaptic at the installed files tab, it will tell you what it installed and where
[12:46] <alvint> noaki: the only thing you should need to do is install the 'xorg-driver-fglrx' package in synaptic and change the 'Driver' reference in your 'xorg.conf'  to 'fglrx'. did you try that?
[12:47] <s_spiff> achha ok..
[12:47] <alvint> noaki: you may also want to verify the appropriate 'linux-restricted-modules' package for your kernel is installed (it should be).
[12:47] <noaki> no i will try
[12:48] <noaki> alvint: but how to change the 'driver reference' ?
[12:48] <renedox> does anyone here run k3b and is able to help me with it?
[12:48] <phos-phoros> "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx ; fglrxconfig" works to?
[12:48] <noaki> alvint: sorry i started using ubuntu today :)
[12:48] <s_spiff> blue-frog, where is the Installed Files tab?
[12:48] <s_spiff>  cant c it
[12:49] <alvint> noaki: are you using Breezy or Dapper?
[12:49] <phos-phoros> noaki, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:49] <noaki> alvint: breezy
[12:50] <blue-frog> s_spiff, right click on installed package > properties
[12:51] <nikol> when i try to install a package i got the error about gcc.. what i must to do?
[12:51] <alvint> noaki: in file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf', go to the section that starts with: Section "Device"
[12:52] <nikol> gcc=no c=no and something about compiler
[12:52] <phos-phoros> nikol, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:52] <s_spiff> blue-frog .. ok i sound retarded..but i cant find installed packages it self
[12:52] <alvint> noaki: under that, change the line that starts with 'Device' to read 'Device "fglrx"'...
[12:52] <noaki> ok i now install xorg-driver-fglrx in synaptic
[12:53] <blue-frog> s_spiff, synaptic?
[12:53] <Seveas> !tell nikol about compiling
[12:53] <noaki> then i will change that line
[12:53] <ludi> is this the latest ubuntu ubuntu-5.10-install-i386
[12:53] <ludi> is there an i686 version?
[12:53] <thoreauputic_> ludi: no
[12:53] <ludi> no to latest or no to i686
[12:53] <alvint> noaki:  CORRECTION the line that starts with DRIVER to DRIVER "fglrx"
[12:53] <thoreauputic_> no to i686
[12:53] <s_spiff> yeah
[12:54] <noaki> alvint: ok i will do... but in that in the xorg.conf and not in the logfile, of course ?
[12:55] <noaki> *but that
[12:55] <alvint> noaki: also for breezy, you may need to comment out the line that reads 'Load "Int10"' under 'Section "Module"'
[12:55] <nikol> seveas: need i internet connection for that???
[12:55] <lowman62> g'mornin techsupport room :)
[12:55] <thegladiator> kde 3.5 is not stable ?
[12:55] <Seveas> nikol, yes...
[12:55] <thegladiator> testig state ?
[12:56] <nikol> seveas: but i have not... a
[12:57] <thegladiator> does anyone know if kde 3.5 is stable or not ?
[12:57] <renedox> does anyone here run k3b and is able to help me with it?
[12:57] <thegladiator> i already see kde 4.0 at kde-looks site , but kde 3.5 looks buggy
[12:57] <nikol> what i must download now and install later to fix it???
[12:57] <Seveas> nikol, ubuntu is not the best distro to use without internet connection I'm afraid
[12:57] <thoreauputic_> renedox: tell us the problem
[12:57] <alvint> noaki: yes in xorg.conf
[12:57] <renedox> um..
[12:57] <noaki> alvint: is it the line Driver "vga" which i should change to Driver "flgrx" ?
[12:57] <renedox> when I first started k3b, it told me I needed something to run as root
[12:58] <alvint> noaki: yes
[12:58] <renedox> but, i've forgotten what it is
[12:58] <alexandre> Hi guys! How can I tell how much free space I've got left on a mounted floppy disk?
[12:58] <s_spiff> brb
[12:58] <renedox> at the moment, I'm trying to burn something to a DVD
[12:58] <thoreauputic_> renedox: did you run k3b setup ?
[12:58] <Gunfus> does anyone know if can I suspend/standby my computer..
[12:58] <renedox> k3b setup?
[12:58] <mwe> alexandre: df
[12:58] <bakwal> hey guys, a little help with kubuntu  here please?
[12:59] <thoreauputic_> renedox: I don't have it here atm, but there's a setup option in the menus
[12:59] <renedox> where do I run k3b setup?
[12:59] <renedox> oh ok
[12:59] <lowman62> df -h
[12:59] <alvint> noaki: first ensure the package 'xorg-driver-fglrx' is installed and also the right 'linux-restricted-modules' for your kernel
[12:59] <phos-phoros> ?
[12:59] <alexandre> mwe: great, thanks!
[12:59] <mwe> bakwal: ask away but maybe they know more at #kubuntu
[01:00] <Gunfus> how can I suspend/standby my computer..
[01:00] <renedox> the md5 check is taking ages...
[01:00] <thoreauputic_> renedox: settings - k3b setup
[01:00] <alvint> noaki: also remember to comment out the 'Load "int10"' line.
[01:00] <noaki> alvint: i installed 'xorg-driver-fglrx'
[01:00] <bakwal> i just installed kubuntu (after downloading the latest)  i was able to install it without any problems. but i cant change settings. it says i must be in root level to perform changes. But it didnt require me any password for root during installation, what can I do?
[01:00] <noaki> alvint: how to check wether the 'linux-restricted-modules' is installed?
[01:00] <renedox> thoreauputic_: cool, thanks, i'll check it once k3b is finished
[01:00] <alexandre> lowman62: even better with the human readable sizes! ;-)
[01:00] <mwe> bakwal: use sudo
[01:00] <alvint> noaki: search for it in synaptic
[01:01] <mwe> !tell bakwal about rootsudo
[01:01] <renedox> thoreauputic_: um.. asks me for a password...
[01:01] <lowman62> alexandre: I thought so to I personally use a script ;)
[01:01] <noaki> alvint: oh ok i should have known that :)
[01:01] <thoreauputic_> renedox: your user password
[01:01] <renedox> ok
[01:01] <bakwal> mwe: how do i use sudo? i just type on terminal:  sudo
[01:01] <Gunfus> does anyone where I can ask about standby/shutdown/suspend..?
[01:01] <mwe> bakwal: read /msg from ubotu
[01:01] <alvint> noaki: if you previously modified your 'xorg.conf' make sure you revert those changes
[01:01] <thoreauputic_> !tell bakwal about sudo
[01:02] <renedox> thoreauputic_: right, so what do I do there?
[01:02] <SeicherlBoB> hi there! My syslog is exploding cause i get millions of pptp anon log-errors about "disduplicate or old packet xxxxx (expecting yyyyy)" Whats happening there?!
[01:02] <j2daosh> anyone know if it is possible to use the cut command to cut 2 seprate fields from the who -uH command? i want to cut the name and the pid fields and drop them into a seprate field for a script im working on
[01:02] <mwe> bakwal: sudo <command> followed by your user password
[01:02] <thoreauputic_> renedox: erm - foolow the directions? I haven't done it for ages...
[01:02] <thoreauputic_> *follow
[01:02] <renedox> there are no instructions
[01:02] <SeicherlBoB> I googled for the error and all i found was a couple of unanswered question and some advice i don't understand - something about LCP config. can anybody help me with that?
[01:03] <alvint> noaki: make sure the restricted modules version matches the kernel version you boot with
[01:03] <bakwal> mwe  i want to enable the network adapters.
[01:03] <noaki> alvint: ok i found it ... it is the right version
[01:03] <mwe> bakwal: yes
[01:03] <lowman62> j2daosh: what is the script that are working on do?
[01:03] <renedox> thoreauputic_: it's just for setting permissions or something
[01:03] <mwe> bakwal: go ahead
[01:03] <noaki> alvint: now i'll comment out that 'Load "int10' line
[01:04] <mwe> bakwal: I don't use gnome but I believe there's a gui to do it somewhere in the menus
[01:04] <j2daosh> log all users currently on when the script runs, match against user running the script and if other users dont match, kill them
[01:04] <pornsurfer> Ng, i am having problems recovering from my error. i cannot boot kernel 2.6.12-10-386   I can boot to 2.6.12-8-386 though and i see the nvidia splash screen. the only errors i could pick out were: failed to load the nvidia kernel module, and : fatal server error: no screens found .  i tried to reconfigure 4 times without success :(
[01:04] <thoreauputic_> renedox: yes, well among other things I think cdrecord has to run suid root
[01:04] <thoreauputic_> renedox: but that's from memory
[01:04] <alvint> noaki: yup. once you're up and running you can see if it works with it
[01:04] <renedox> thoreauputic_: hang on, i'll give you a screen shot
[01:04] <Ng> pornsurfer: hmm, that would suggest you are missing the restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386 package
[01:04] <j2daosh> so i want to cut the name and pid but i need them on the same line in the output file the script runs on
[01:05] <pornsurfer> Ng, any way i can undo my error?
[01:05] <lowman62> j2daosh: I think there is a ready made script for that...want me to check for you?
[01:05] <renedox> thoreauputic_: http://<IP_ADDRESS>/~cheng/screenshots/Screenshot-1.png
[01:05] <renedox> thoreauputic_: sorry for the slow connection :|
[01:05] <blue-frog> j2daosh, who -uH | awk '{print $1" " $3}'  for example
[01:05] <thoreauputic_> renedox: I'm on dialup anyway :)
[01:05] <Ng> pornsurfer: try installing that package and see if that helps
[01:06] <j2daosh> im sure there is... but since im trying to learn/scripting and programming i wanna see what i can do
[01:06] <renedox> thoreauputic_: oh ok :)
[01:06] <j2daosh> awk?
[01:06] <pornsurfer> Ng, can i install from here? i am booted into 2.6.12-8-386
[01:06] <Ng> pornsurfer: yep
[01:06] <lowman62> j2daosh: oh okay i understand that fully...good luck on that ;) <--is a programmer
[01:06] <pornsurfer> Ng, ok i will try , thanks a million !!
[01:07] <mwe> renedox: are you on dialup or something? I couldn't resist following the link to the screenshot
[01:07] <Ng> j2daosh: that does sound a bit like a job for awk, yeah :)
[01:07] <renedox> mwe: no, we have slow upload speeds in NZ (128)
[01:07] <noaki> alvint: sorry but theres another problem... i looked for that line but this line couldn't be found
[01:07] <mwe> renedox: all right
[01:08] <renedox> mwe: :)
[01:08] <j2daosh> lol but i dont know awk... but thats ok i suppose... ill need to learn it anyway... and its interchangeable with perl right?
[01:08] <alvint> noaki: it's there under 'Section "Module"'
[01:08] <pornsurfer> Ng, which version do i need? there are many
[01:08] <thoreauputic_> renedox: I have -rwsr-xr--  1 root cdrom<PHONE_NUMBER>-09-13 23:10 /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap  ( your's appears not to be set suid )
[01:08] <ja> how do I hibernate my laptop from the commandline (or fluxbox)?
[01:08] <pornsurfer> Ng, oops ...disregard
[01:08] <lowman62> j2daosh: man awk
[01:08] <Gunfus> does anyone where I can ask about standby/shutdown/suspend..?
[01:09] <j2daosh> :) thank you
[01:09] <j2daosh> brb
[01:09] <jerome__> quit
[01:09] <mwe> Gunfus: ask here
[01:10] <thoreauputic_> renedox: also mine is group cdrom, yours appears to be root
[01:10] <renedox> thoreauputic_: um... how do I change it...?
[01:10] <Gunfus> I have.. but noone has answered.. so I figure that noone knew...in anycase.. how can I  standby/shutdown/suspend..?
[01:10] <pornsurfer> Ng, i believe i have successfully installed the  restricted modules for 2.6.12-10-386.    is there anythhing i have to do before i reboot?
[01:11] <bakwal> i think im still stuck with my problem
[01:11] <sudharsh> System > Logout > Hibrenate
[01:11] <Ng> pornsurfer: I dont think so :)
[01:11] <noaki> alvint: i wrote a personal message or however u call this how u wrote to me some time ago
[01:11] <Gunfus> sudharsh, I don't have that options..
[01:11] <bakwal> when i go to system settings>network settings (KUBUNTU) it says your flatform is not supported, then gives me a list to chose from. Whats Next?
[01:11] <pornsurfer> <---- crosses fingers :)-
[01:11] <sudharsh> ...
[01:11] <Gunfus> sudharsh, is there a way to do it from inside the desktop..?
[01:12] <lowman62> <--plugs ears
[01:12] <sudharsh> Gunfus i m telling this within the desktop
[01:12] <alvint> noaki: hmm didn't get it...
[01:12] <thoreauputic_> renedox: sudo chown root:cdrom /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap && sudo  chmod 4754 /usr/bin/cdrecord.mmap   <-- should do it
[01:12] <Gunfus> then I totally don't have that option.. I only see shutdown
[01:12] <ja> sudharsh: is there a way to hibernate from the fluxbox WM?
[01:12] <Gunfus> sudharsh, then I totally don't have that option.. I only see shutdown
[01:12] <sudharsh> ja: sorry mate dunno
[01:13] <sudharsh> Gunfus: Did ur monitor get detected properly
[01:13] <Gunfus> my monitor yes
[01:13] <mwe> bakwal: ask in the channel please
[01:13] <Gunfus> sudharsh, yes it did..
[01:13] <renedox> thoreauputic_: 4754? thought there were only three numbers
[01:13] <SeicherlBoB> hi there! My syslog is exploding cause i get millions of pptp anon log-errors about "disduplicate or old packet xxxxx (expecting yyyyy)" Whats happening there?!
[01:13] <SeicherlBoB> I googled for the error and all i found was a couple of unanswered question and some advice i don't understand - something about LCP config. can anybody help me with that?
[01:13] <sudharsh> no problems...there?
[01:13] <noaki> alvint: i get yours ... hm then i'll write it here
[01:13] <ja> sudharsh: thanks, I guess I'll have to use GNOME then
[01:13] <bakwal> when i go to system settings>network settings (KUBUNTU) it says your flatform is not supported, then gives me a list to chose from. Whats Next?
[01:13] <thoreauputic_> renedox: the 4 is for suid
[01:13] <renedox> ah.. ic
[01:13] <noaki> Section "Module"
[01:13] <noaki> # This loads the DBE extension module.
[01:13] <noaki>     Load        "dbe"  	# Double buffer extension
[01:13] <noaki> # This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
[01:13] <noaki> # initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.
[01:13] <noaki>     SubSection  "extmod"
[01:13] <noaki>       Option    "omit xfree86-dga"   # don't initialise the DGA extension
[01:14] <noaki>     EndSubSection
[01:14] <noaki> # This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules
[01:14] <sudharsh> check the xorg.conf for anomalies
[01:14] <noaki>     Load        "type1"
[01:14] <noaki>     Load        "freetype"
[01:14] <noaki> # This loads the GLX module
[01:14] <noaki>     Load        "glx"   # libglx.a
[01:14] <noaki>     Load        "dri"   # libdri.a
[01:14] <noaki> EndSection
[01:14] <Gunfus> noaki, use paste bin
[01:14] <rambo3> nice
[01:14] <sudharsh> noaki: paste this output in pastebin
[01:14] <azatoth> hi!
[01:15] <Gunfus> sudharsh, so what else can I do to enable the standby??
[01:15] <noaki> sudharsch & gunfus: what? sorry i don't understand what you mean or how to do
[01:15] <sudharsh> what kinda card do u use
[01:15] <Gunfus> sudharsh, for the video card..?!
[01:15] <sudharsh> yeah..sry
[01:16] <thoreauputic_> !paste
[01:16] <ubotu> paste is, like, totally, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[01:16] <alvint> noaki: if you modified your 'xorg.conf' previously you should change it back. but it may work as is.
[01:16] <renedox> thoreauputic_: I don't get what the problem is
[01:16] <renedox> thoreauputic_: I have a DVD +- reader/writer
[01:16] <renedox> thoreauputic_: thought every kind of DVD can be written on
[01:16] <renedox> thoreauputic_: + or -
[01:16] <thoreauputic_> renedox: it looks like your k3b wasn't set up right
[01:17] <thoreauputic_> renedox: you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure k3b
[01:17] <noaki> alvint: i have a backup of the xorg.conf, but i made it before installing the driver
[01:17] <Zedman> renedox: try modpobe sg
[01:17] <jenda> Ng: OK, I did the dist-upgrade, and I got all zeros
[01:17] <lowman62> renedox: your solution may be here http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/chap10.php
[01:17] <alvint> noaki: that's even better. just make those 2 changes to the backup
[01:17] <blue-frog> renedox, isn't sudo k3b solving your pb?
[01:18] <Ng> jenda: sounds like it's working then, was that it or was there another error to solve (I forgot, sorry)
[01:18] <noaki> alvint: ok i'll do
[01:18] <Gunfus> sudharsh, my video is a NVIDIA GeForce 6600
[01:18] <renedox> sudo k3b>
[01:18] <renedox> why would I run k3b as root?
[01:18] <sudharsh> did u install the drivers
[01:18] <thoreauputic_> blue-frog: sudo k3b is a bad idea - it can lock up your ~/.ICEauthority
[01:18] <renedox> or need to
[01:18] <Gunfus> sudharsh, It got detected automaticly
[01:18] <sudharsh> supplied by ur vendor
[01:18] <jenda> Ng: the problem is that my kernel, according to uname -r, is 2.6.12-9, not -10
[01:19] <sudharsh> ok...now fire up synaptic
[01:19] <Gunfus> sudharsh, I didn't even check if they had linux drivers..
[01:19] <blue-frog> renedox, so u will know if it's a permission pb
[01:19] <Ng> jenda: ah yes
[01:19] <Gunfus> sudharsh, okay
[01:19] <sudharsh> well nvidia provide thier own drivers
[01:19] <jenda> Ng: ah no...
[01:19] <sudharsh> might as well check that
[01:19] <thoreauputic_> blue-frog: renedox  kdesu k3b is a safer option
[01:20] <Gunfus> sudharsh, okay so launch synaptic and..?!
[01:20] <renedox> thoreauputic_: kdesu?
[01:20] <blue-frog> thoreauputic, am using gnome...
[01:20] <noaki> alvint: How can i delete the xorg.conf
[01:20] <blue-frog> thoreauputic, and i don't have any pb with k3b...
[01:20] <sudharsh> search for nvidia
[01:20] <thoreauputic_> renedox: just type kdesu k3b -  it should ask for a password
[01:21] <noaki> alvint: i have to be root - how can i do that over terminal
[01:21] <thoreauputic_> blue-frog: I know - but you were suggesting sudo k3b, which isn't a good idea :)
[01:21] <renedox> I get the following error:
[01:21] <renedox> cdrecord = 2.6.8
[01:21] <renedox> Since Linux kernel 2.6.8 cdrecord Solution: Use K3bSetup to solve this problem
[01:21] <ja> when I logout of GNOME (running in gdm) I have the option of hibernating my laptop but when I use KDE (running on kdm) I only have the option to end current session, reboot or shutdown.  How can I hibernate from KDE?
[01:21] <noaki> alvint: i want to learn a bit how to use it
[01:21] <sudharsh> u'll need to install nvidia-glx
[01:21] <thoreauputic_> renedox: which is where we came in - run k3bsetup
[01:22] <renedox> thoreauputic_: yeah, but it only says use k3bsetup
[01:22] <Gunfus> sudharsh, okay.. marked for install as well as nvidia-settings
[01:22] <renedox> doesn't tell exactly what to do :|
[01:22] <Ng> jenda: have you done a "sudo apt-get update" recently? If not, do that and then see if "apt-cache search 2.6.12-10" returns anything
[01:22] <sudharsh> k install the stuff
[01:22] <sudharsh> should work
[01:22] <noaki> alvint: what is the command to delete a file
[01:22] <thoreauputic_> renedox: did you try   sudo dpkg-reconfigure k3b  ?
[01:22] <sudharsh> rm
[01:22] <lowman62> noaki: Applications>System Tools> Run as different user type in gnome-terminal or whatever terminal you use and you are root voila!
[01:23] <UncleD> thoreauputic_: I'm sshd into my ubuntu box and occasionally I get "randomly" disconnected. Sometimes while Idle for 10 minutes, other times while MID-TYPING something. Any idea whats going on?
[01:23] <Gunfus> sudharsh, COOL! MAN!! THANKS A LOT!!
[01:23] <renedox> thoreauputic_: yip
[01:23] <sudharsh> it worked?
[01:23] <renedox> thoreauputic_: is any output meant to show? because I didn't get anything
[01:23] <Gunfus> sudharsh, yes it works, Now I see the option.. I don't understand what the video card has to do with the hybernate or any of those.. but sure
[01:23] <UncleD> thoreauputic_: Then, when I log back in, my ttypid is still alive, like, "im still connected".. I don't get it.
[01:23] <sudharsh> well it does...
[01:24] <thoreauputic_> renedox: hmm - sorry I think I'm out of ideas - the only other thing I can think of is to purge k3b and reinstall it
[01:24] <sudharsh> nvidia provide their own drivers
[01:24] <lowman62> noaki: rm <filename>
[01:24] <thoreauputic_> UncleD: weird :|
[01:24] <sudharsh> lucky u dont hav an ati
[01:24] <renedox> thoreauputic_: last time I did that, I had to reinstall :(
[01:24] <Gunfus> sudharsh, I figure you have an ATI.. ;P.. okay.. well thanks for that help
[01:25] <sudharsh> no i dont ,....i hav an SiS :O
[01:25] <Gunfus> sudharsh, one last question.. then.. while we were doing this.. I burned a CD of the utils froM intel for linux..
[01:25] <thoreauputic_> renedox:  sudo apt-get remove --purge k3b && sudo apt-get install k3b  <-- should be safe I think
[01:25] <renedox> thoreauputic_: cool
[01:26] <sudharsh> k Gnufus check the output of glxinfo and see if direct rendering is enabled
[01:26] <trincamckee> good morning/evening
[01:26] <Steve|> does anyone here have a "skymaster ethernet adapter"
[01:26] <noaki> lowman62: thank you
[01:26] <sudharsh> k...yes
[01:26] <Steve|> 10/100
[01:26] <lowman62> noaki: yw :)
[01:26] <thoreauputic_> renedox: I think you should get a setup on first run after reinstalling, from memory
[01:26] <Steve|> 100/10 sorry
[01:26] <Gunfus> sudharsh, but I can't execute anything out of the new burned CD because they are all owned by root, even if I do a sudo ./autorun.sh it doesn't work it says "sudo: unable toe xecute ./autorun: permission denied"
[01:26] <renedox> thoreauputic_: oh ok
[01:26] <trincamckee> does someone knows where can i find the smoke screensaver?
[01:26] <noaki> lowman62: i only know DOS command 'del' ;-)
[01:27] <sudharsh> include sudo sh ./<whatever>
[01:27] <renedox> thoreauputic_: I just restarted k3b, see if that helps, because of the things I've been asked to do
[01:27] <jenda> Ng: OK. Found tons of stuff for -10, but a sudo apt-get upgrade won't install anything...
[01:27] <Gunfus> sudharsh, okay.. direct rendering is not enabled
[01:27] <trincamckee> i had this screensaver in warty and hoary, but in breezy i think its not installed
[01:27] <lowman62> noaki: once upon a time I was in same pair of shoes. :)
[01:27] <sudharsh> hmmm...k then reboot to enable it...thats all
[01:27] <Zedman> renedox: burning cd's is working on your machine, isn't it? I had the problem, that I can't burn cd, because there was an kernel module that wasn't loaded.
[01:27] <thoreauputic_> renedox: worth a shot - but the command I gave you should work OK if you need it
[01:27] <mwe> Gunfus: mount it with right options and users will be able to execute as well
[01:28] <renedox> Zedman: yeah, it works, but I think it might be this kind of DVD
[01:28] <renedox> thoreauputic_: yeah, I've saved it :)
[01:28] <sudharsh> well i thught u would get the hibernate options only after u reboot
[01:28] <sudharsh> but in ur case it cam rite away
[01:28] <Gunfus> sudharsh, how about Hybernating.. ;P.. I know it doesn't work.. I am just happy the options is there..
[01:28] <renedox> Zedman: I can burn other DVDs and CDs just fine, I think it's just this brand
[01:28] <Gunfus> mwe, okay.. I will unmount and mount it again
[01:28] <sudharsh> well u gotta reboot anyway
[01:29] <Zedman> renedox, ok, thats fine. :)
[01:29] <mwe> Gunfus: use -o umask=0222
[01:29] <renedox> Zedman: :)
[01:29] <sudharsh> Gunfs u must include the 'sh' after sudo
[01:29] <thoreauputic_> renedox: if that's the case, then why mess with what works? Just use another dvd type ...
[01:30] <mwe> Gunfus: then you should be able to execute without sudo or sh
[01:30] <renedox> thoreauputic_: hm.. yeah, good point
[01:30] <j2daosh> ok... awk didn't work... it expected a bunch of other stuff
[01:30] <sudharsh> mwe..thanx i didnt know that
[01:30] <renedox> anyone want 25 blank DVDs?
[01:30] <renedox> lol
[01:30] <sudharsh> count me in
[01:30] <j2daosh> dual layer?
[01:30] <j2daosh> lol
[01:30] <thoreauputic_> renedox: "If it ain't broke... " you know the rest ;)
[01:30] <renedox> haha
[01:30] <renedox> no
[01:30] <renedox> thoreauputic_: yeah...
[01:30] <aeon17x> I wish I had a burner. :(
[01:31] <renedox> thoreauputic_: just hope I haven't "fixed" it :|
[01:31] <j2daosh> i wish mine was recognized by ubuntu
[01:31] <lowman62> j2daosh: you would have to use it within a testing statement...like an "if" type statement
[01:31] <thoreauputic_> renedox: if you have "fixed" it - do the purge and reinstall
[01:31] <thoreauputic_> for k3b
[01:31] <noaki> alvint: ok i commented out that load line and changed the driver part
[01:31] <j2daosh> really? crap... i dont know that much yet....
[01:31] <renedox> thoreauputic_: yeah
[01:31] <joseph> why does ubuntu not ask to set root password during installation?
[01:31] <thoreauputic_> !root
[01:31] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:31] <noaki> alvint: can i know just reboot and everything works?
[01:31] <j2daosh> jos... because its disabled by default
[01:31] <renedox> thoreauputic_: but didn't I change permissions on some files too?
[01:32] <bakwal> ERROR: The module: USERS & GROUPS could not be loaded....  (I cant add new users to kubuntu)  how do i fix it?
[01:32] <thoreauputic_> renedox: yes, but that shouldn't break it
[01:32] <renedox> thoreauputic_: cool :)
[01:32] <lowman62> j2daosh: kind of like if this do this if that do that type statement then have a fall back else do this
[01:32] <sudharsh> bakwal: try rebooting
[01:32] <Ng> jenda: does "uname -a" exactly for the kernel version? 2.6.12-9-386?
[01:32] <bakwal> thanks sudharsh ill try
[01:33] <j2daosh> hmm... looks like ill have to read somemore before i make this script
[01:33] <j2daosh> ok... ill be back in a few hours and let you know how it turned out
[01:33] <Gunfus> mwe, you mean for mouting the CD.. (sorry my wife called me)
[01:33] <j2daosh> thanks for thelp help so far... dont run off though
[01:33] <j2daosh> lol
[01:33] <lowman62> j2daosh: careful...test test test...can cause damage real easy
[01:33] <Gunfus> sudharsh, Thanks all the help man.. I really appreciate it
[01:34] <sudharsh> Gunfus....check the permissions...and see whtr its executable
[01:34] <isho> hai friend..i want sex
[01:34] <j2daosh> oh i know... i just have to remember now to kill sys and hal and other user processes
[01:34] <lowman62> ;)
[01:34] <joseph> when I first login to ubuntu, in the upper-right corner there is a message "There are 39 updates available".  When I click on this icon, a prompt asks me for the root password.  However, when I installed ubuntu it never asked me to set the root password.  Therefore, how am I going to proceed?
[01:34] <j2daosh> jos
[01:34] <Gunfus> sudharsh, it is executable..
[01:34] <jenda> Ng: 2.6.12-9-386
[01:34] <j2daosh> !root
[01:34] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:34] <ccooke> joseph: it's asking for your own password, not the root password
[01:34] <theine> joseph, it asks you for your user password
[01:35] <sudharsh> well is it executable by you
[01:35] <j2daosh> jos... look at that link
[01:35] <theine> joseph, just type in that
[01:35] <lowman62> joseph what is the password you used to login to your profile ...that is the one it is asking for
[01:35] <Gunfus> mwe, you meant to use that option "-o umask=0222" when mouting..?
[01:35] <joseph> ccooke: theine: so I never get to set the root password?
[01:35] <isho> join me..to sexs party
[01:35] <pornsurfer> Ng, sorry to keep bugging you!   I still cant boot 2.6.12-10-386    i THINK i got the required restricted libraries and tried to reconfigure x but no luck. Any ideas how i should proceed?
[01:35] <theine> !sudo
[01:35] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:35] <Ng> jenda: ok, try "sudo apt-get install linux-386" - does that pull in the 2.6.12-10 ones?
[01:35] <theine> joseph, what ubotu said...
[01:35] <thoreauputic> joseph: did you read the URL ubotu posted?
[01:35] <ccooke> joseph: no,not by default. You can if you have a reason for it. Otherwise, everything uses sudo or a graphical sudo
[01:36] <Ng> pornsurfer: erk, well you could change the graphics driver from "nvidia" to "nv" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf - it's not an ideal solution but at least it'll get you running 2.6.12-10 and maybe we can figure out what's going on
[01:36] <jenda> Ng: newest version... gotta be in my sources.list - will check
[01:36] <hejux> ls
[01:36] <hejux> clear
[01:36] <sudharsh> pornsurfer: did u install nvidia-glx
[01:37] <jenda> Ng: OK, I think I'm missing the main repos :)
[01:37] <hejux> hi, is there a room to flooding ?
[01:37] <jenda> hejux; http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:37] <pornsurfer> Ng, i tried that, as well as other things while reconfiguring , nothing worked. :( is there a way to just completely undo what i have done and start again?
[01:37] <thoreauputic> hejux: #flood
[01:37] <dutch> hejux: #flood
[01:37] <joseph> ccooke: or I have to use Run and enter gksudo
[01:37] <pornsurfer> sudharsh, i dont think so, its necessary?
[01:37] <Ng> jenda: that might explain it ;)
[01:37] <mwe> Gunfus: well mount /media/cdrom as user should be sufficient
[01:37] <sudharsh> well it solved the problem for Gunfus
[01:38] <pornsurfer> sudharsh , i remember seeing it checked while reconfiguring x , maybe i need a different version ?
[01:38] <mwe> Gunfus: At second thought I'm not sure umask works for cds
[01:38] <sudharsh> no dats different
[01:38] <Gunfus> mwe, okay.. so just mount the CD as the user instead of root
[01:38] <sudharsh> check if its installed in synaptic
[01:38] <mwe> Gunfus: yeah
[01:38] <ccooke> joseph: Applications -> System Tools -> Run as different user
[01:39] <Ng> pornsurfer: hmm, not easily. I'm really quite surprised that didn't work though, if the config works on 2.6.12-8 and the modules for -10 are available then it should still all Just Work :/
[01:39] <mwe> Gunfus: provied it's in fstab and has option user in there
[01:39] <jenda> Ng: No, I have all of what source-o-matic gives...
[01:39] <mwe> Gunfus: should be by default I think
[01:39] <pornsurfer> Ng, figures, i have broken it beyond repair or reason :)
[01:39] <Gunfus> mwe, I was just checking my fstab and it seems to be there... so I guess automount is mounting the cdrom as soon as I put it in
[01:39] <thoreauputic> jenda: did you  sudo apt-get update ?
[01:40] <sudharsh> Gunfus give the long ls in the flood
[01:40] <sudharsh> i mean in #flood
[01:40] <jack_> Helloo! I have some pretty out dated versions of software on my system.. How can I uodate these,, for example Banshee and GTK-Gnutella are not quite current..
[01:40] <mwe> Gunfus: yeah
[01:40] <sudharsh> jack_ apt-get update and u r rokin
[01:40] <jenda> thoreauputic: about three gazillion times...
[01:40] <Gunfus> mwe, i tried mounting it as a user.. it still mounts as root..
[01:40] <thoreauputic> jenda: OK :)
[01:40] <Gunfus> sudharsh, what.. where ks in the flood..?
[01:40] <Ng> jenda: the only other thing I can think of is that it is installed, but GRUB isn't showing/selecting it, does "dpkg -l | grep 2.6.12" show any -10 stuff? If it does then reboot and hit Escape when grub starts so you can see its menu
[01:40] <Gunfus> sudharsh, ls in the flood..?
[01:41] <pornsurfer> Ng, sudharsh , there are 4 avilable things for nvidia-glx   ,  how do i know which i need?
[01:41] <Gunfus> sudharsh, what is the flood
[01:41] <sudharsh> flood is another channel
[01:41] <omer> hi guys
[01:41] <thoreauputic> Gunfus:  /join #flood
[01:41] <Gunfus> sudharsh, ohh okay.. hehe
[01:41] <Ng> pornsurfer: unless you have a very old nvidia card you want "nvidia-glx". the -dev ones are for compiling
[01:41] <omer> i want to build debian ubuntu on to my winxp with vmware workstation so which one i prefer live cd or install cd?
[01:41] <sudharsh> pornsurfer: select evrythin: jus make sure it doesnt remove anythin imp
[01:41] <jack_> sudharsh, yes.. but that won't help.. I really would like GTK-Gnutella to be more current.. I have universe and multiverse and all..
[01:41] <pornsurfer> Ng, i have ti4400
[01:41] <Steve|> will ubuntu auto detect a hardware and install it for me?
[01:41] <Gunfus> sudharsh, so you want the ls.. of the cdrom..?!
[01:41] <omer> i want to build debian ubuntu on to my winxp with vmware workstation so which one i prefer live cd or install cd?
[01:42] <jenda> Ng: darn... I just didn't reboot yet :). That's the thing. Thanks a bunch.
[01:42] <sudharsh> yes
[01:42] <pornsurfer> sudharsh, ok i will try. thanks !!
[01:42] <thoreauputic> Steve|: if it is supported
[01:42] <theine> omer, install cd
[01:42] <mwe> Gunfus: sudo mount -o uid=1000 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom then if your uid 1000
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[01:42] <Steve|> thoreauputic: well what i'm talking about specifically is a skymaster 100/10 lan acrd
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[01:42] <pornsurfer> Ng, is ti4400 an "very old" card??
[01:42] <omer> install cd ok,my pc is x86
[01:42] <mwe> Gunfus: "id" will show
[01:43] <thoreauputic> Steve|: most lan cards (nics) are well supported
[01:43] <Ng> pornsurfer: no, I think that should work with the nvidia-glx package
[01:43] <pornsurfer> Ng , ok thanx
[01:43] <thoreauputic> Steve|: I don't know particular ones :)
[01:43] <Steve|> ho :|
[01:43] <Steve|> thoreauputic: so if i just put in this lan card, it will install it automatically without me having to do anything?
[01:43] <Steve|> if it is supported that is
[01:43] <thoreauputic> Steve|: easiest way is to try it, I guess :) chances are it willbe fine
[01:44] <Steve|> okey dokey
[01:44] <joseph> is it ok to use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:44] <Steve|> thanks :)
[01:44] <mwe> Gunfus: however when my cd is mounted as root it still gives everyone permission to execute from it
[01:44] <theine> joseph,  very ok :)
[01:44] <thoreauputic> joseph: sure - that's the right way to reconfigre X
[01:44] <thoreauputic> *reconfigure
[01:44] <mwe> Gunfus: what file system is it?
[01:44] <joseph> wasn't sure if there was an ubuntu-specific GUI method or something else
[01:44] <omer> excuse me theine, are you sure ?i am new in ubuntu so i want to be sure
[01:44] <pornsurfer> Ng, when reconfiguring X it asks about the bus location...?   it says PCI 1.0.0   is this right for agp card?
[01:45] <theine> omer, that you should use the install CD to install Ubuntu under Vmware? Yes
[01:45] <thoreauputic> joseph: don't forget to use sudo in front of that command
[01:45] <Gunfus> mwe, iso9660
[01:45] <omer> yes i will use vmware
[01:45] <theine> omer, than use the install CD.
[01:45] <renedox> Now listening to: Bob Carlisle - Butterfly kisses
[01:46] <joseph> I find a flaw with the sudo method.  since user does not have root access, the Tab completion fails.
[01:46] <omer> ok thanx theine
[01:46] <thoreauputic> joseph: in ~/.bashrc, uncomment programmable completion
[01:46] <theine> joseph, try "source /etc/bash_completion"
[01:46] <mwe> Gunfus: I don't know why it's not mounted with permissions for everyone to execute. is is here. however I think the -o uid= will work
[01:46] <rambo3> no it doesnt
[01:47] <limguohong91> Hi, How do i start running wine?
[01:47] <theine> joseph, you might wanna uncomment that line in your ~/.bashrc
[01:47] <mwe> limguohong91: type wine notepad.exe for example
[01:47] <pornsurfer> anybody............when reconfiguring X it asks about the bus location...?   it says PCI 1.0.0   is this right for agp card?
[01:47] <limguohong91> Type it at where?
[01:48] <mwe> limguohong91: in a terminal
[01:48] <theine> joseph, yeah, what thoreauputic said...
[01:48] <thoreauputic> theine: the lines are there in ,bashrc - just a question of removing the #
[01:48] <limguohong91> mwe : Ok :) I will try it :)
[01:48] <theine> thoreauputic, I know
[01:48] <thoreauputic> theine: OK :)
[01:48] <theine> thoreauputic, that's why I said `uncomment that line' :)
[01:48] <limguohong91> mwe: It gave me $ /usr/local/bin/winecfg
[01:49] <sudharsh> pornsurfer...jus see what happens
[01:49] <mwe> limguohong91: yes?
[01:49] <limguohong91> mwe: It gave me Base: Wine Command not found.
[01:49] <thoreauputic> theine: actually it is an if statement ( 3 lines ) to be pedantic :)
[01:49] <mwe> limguohong91: it's wine. not Wine
[01:49] <mwe> limguohong91: watch the caps
[01:49] <theine> thoreauputic, you're right
[01:49] <limguohong91> mew: it is still the same thing
[01:50] <Gunfus> mwe.. oky.. I will give that a try in a copuple of sec
[01:50] <limguohong91> bash: wine : command not found
[01:50] <mwe> limguohong91: have you installed wine?
[01:50] <sudharsh> installed it? winelib
[01:50] <pornsurfer> sudharsh, see what happens how? after reinstalling nvidia-glx ??
[01:50] <limguohong91> Yes through Synaptic
[01:50] <limguohong91> I just install it and I can use it right?
[01:50] <sudharsh> u know the pci*** stuff
[01:50] <sudharsh> jus proceed
[01:50] <\sh> limguohong91: dapper or breezy?
[01:50] <limguohong91> Breezy
[01:51] <pornsurfer> sudharsh , i tried it with the default value and had no joy.  thats why i was asking if 1.0.0 is the correct bus location for agp cards
[01:51] <sudharsh> limguohong...try /usr/bin/wine
[01:51] <\sh> limguohong91: sudo apt-get install wine...and you should have wine 0.0.20050725 or something like this
[01:51] <theine> Is anybody working on a Qt front end to NetworkManager?
[01:51] <sudharsh> i dont hv agp cards...:(
[01:51] <mwe> limguohong91: it shouldn't say command not found at least. I think you need to run winecfg though
[01:51] <sudharsh> sorry i dunno
[01:51] <\sh> mwe: in the new wine versions there is no winecfg anymore
[01:51] <limguohong91> Ok Thanks for the 3 guiys who help me I will have a shot at it.
[01:51] <pornsurfer> sudharsh, cool, thanks anyway
[01:52] <mwe> \sh: oh
[01:52] <\sh> mwe: it's configuring when during its first run
[01:52] <mwe> \sh: so you just run wine then?
[01:52] <\sh> well...anyways..wait for the security update of wine for breezy...my security patch is waiting for pittis ok to upload
[01:52] <\sh> mwe: yes...wine <foobar.exe<
[01:53] <joachim-n> I'm trying to install IEs4Linux, but I get a timeout whenthe script downloads from MS
[01:53] <BradM> unt dah niclcht nien bragachastar
[01:53] <joachim-n> > Connecting to activex.microsoft.com|<IP_ADDRESS>|:80...
[01:53] <mwe> \sh: all right
[01:53] <BradM> unt dah niclcht nien bragachastar
[01:53] <theine> BradM, word...
[01:53] <\sh> the upcoming security patch will fix the wmf issue of wine...brrr
[01:53] <BradM> haha
[01:53] <BradM> i have no idea what im saying
[01:54] <joseph> I like spatial nautilus.  How do I set it that way.
[01:55] <thoreauputic> \sh: I heard the wmf vulnerability was "designed in" by MS - is that right?
[01:55] <BradM> MS
[01:55] <BradM> !
[01:55] <ubotu> BradM: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:55] <BradM> !
[01:55] <sudharsh> joseph: go to Preferences > file management
[01:55] <\sh> thoreauputic: no clue...but it's funny that wine has the same problem...
[01:55] <joseph> sudharsh: yes, and then?
[01:55] <thoreauputic> BradM: don't play with the bot please
[01:55] <BradM> bot = gay
[01:55] <BradM> i wasn't you fucknut
[01:55] <BradM> i just discovered it
[01:55] <\sh> thoreauputic: cedega doesn't have this issue because they were not implementing the wmf stuff somehow...
[01:55] <BradM> damn
[01:55] <sudharsh> joseph: go to behaviour tab
[01:55] <mwe> thoreauputic: designed in? how do you mean?
[01:55] <BradM> thoreauputic, i love you
[01:56] <joseph> sudharsh: not seeing what I think I want to see in behaviour tab.
[01:56] <sudharsh> wait mate
[01:56] <joseph> k
[01:56] <BradM> erm
[01:56] <BradM> i thought wine came in the package manager
[01:56] <sudharsh> uncheck th 'always open in browser windowa'
[01:58] <joseph> sudharsh: does this make nautilus behave the way that it does in debian by default?
[01:58] <sudharsh> try it
[01:58] <limguohong91> It gave me this when I use usr/bin/wine (wine: cannot open (null)
[01:58] <limguohong91> )
[01:58] <joseph> why does not ubuntu have a home folder on desktop
[01:58] <mwe> limguohong91: you can't just run wine
[01:58] <sudharsh> jus drag it from Places
[01:58] <mwe> limguohong91: you need wine <some.exe>
[01:59] <limguohong91> mwe: do I have to type where is it?
[01:59] <joseph> sudharsh:  I unchecked "always open in browser window" but it is still not spatial nautilus
[01:59] <mwe> limguohong91: where <some.exe> is an actual exe file
[01:59] <sudharsh> u must close any open nautilus windows and reopn it
[01:59] <limguohong91> mwe Ok :)
[01:59] <mwe> limguohong91: try wine notepad.exe
[02:00] <pornsurfer> Ng, here is a question... under the restricted libraries , there aer some for 386 and some for amd K7  , i have athlon 2800 non 64 bit. is the k7 the one i need?
[02:00] <limguohong91> mwe : Warning: Language 'en_SG' was not recognized, defaulting to 'en_US'.
[02:00] <limguohong91> Warning: Language 'en_SG' was not recognized, defaulting to 'en_US'.
[02:00] <limguohong91> Warning: Language 'en_SG' was not recognized, defaulting to 'en_US'.
[02:00] <limguohong91> Warning: the specified Windows directory L"c:\\windows" is not accessible.
[02:00] <limguohong91> Warning: the specified System directory L"c:\\windows\\system" is not accessible.
[02:00] <limguohong91> Warning: could not find DOS drive for current working directory '/home/limguohong91', starting in the Windows directory.
[02:00] <Gunfus> mwe, your technique did worked
[02:00] <joseph> how do I reconfigure my system locale to use US-UTF-8
[02:00] <Gunfus> mwe, THANK!
[02:01] <mwe> \sh: do you know if it's somehow possible to change the default font size for wine? it's tiny here.
[02:01] <mwe> Gunfus: the -o uid= ?
[02:01] <\sh> mwe: sorry no..I'm packaging this stuff ... I'm not using it :)
[02:01] <mwe> \sh: ok
[02:02] <limguohong91> mwe : It did not work......
[02:02] <theine> joseph,  what is your current locale?
[02:02] <\sh> mwe: or let me say it in other words: I don't need to use it, because I have everything on linux :)
[02:03] <joseph> I don't know how to tell
[02:03] <joseph> theine: ^
[02:03] <pornsurfer> sudharsh, under the restricted nvidia libraries , there aer some for 386 and some for amd K7  , i have older athlon 2800 non 64 bit. is the k7 the one i need?
[02:03] <theine> joseph, try "echo ${LANG}"
[02:03] <sudharsh> go for 386...dats safer
[02:03] <viviersf> pornsurfer, yes
[02:03] <viviersf> or
[02:03] <viviersf> 386
[02:03] <pornsurfer> Ok, thanks all !!!
[02:03] <joseph> theine: en_US.UTF-8
[02:03] <joseph> thanks1
[02:04] <theine> joseph, no problem
[02:04] <joseph> now how do I set it to spatial nautilus?
[02:04] <pornsurfer> viviersf, you saying i need the k7?
[02:04] <pornsurfer> oops , 386
[02:04] <viviersf> you can use 386 or k7
[02:04] <viviersf> what kernel you using ?
[02:04] <duncanm> i'm having some problems running Firefox 1.5 on Breezy
[02:04] <viviersf> k7 or 386 ?
[02:04] <duncanm> ./run-mozilla.sh: line 131:  9621 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[02:04] <duncanm>  -- what's this about?
[02:04] <duncanm> i installed libstdc++ already
[02:04] <pornsurfer> 2.6.12-10-386
[02:04] <viviersf> pornsurfer, then use 386 drivers
[02:04] <_jason> duncanm, don't run that.  Run firefox
[02:05] <pornsurfer> viviersf, ok, thank you !
[02:05] <mwe> duncanm: how did you install it?
[02:05] <duncanm> mwe: i'm just running the binary tarball
[02:05] <viviersf> duncanm,
[02:05] <viviersf> you are running the wrong executable
[02:05] <viviersf> dont run the .sh
[02:06] <mwe> duncanm: yes. so you unpacked it and ran the firefox binary?
[02:06] <duncanm> mwe: yeah, which is a shell script
[02:06] <mwe> duncanm: right
[02:06] <_jason> duncanm, see if './firefox' results in the same error
[02:06] <sudharsh> duncanm check this out.....https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:06] <sudharsh> duncanm check this out.....https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:06] <duncanm> that's what i'm doing
[02:06] <duncanm> _jason: i'm running ./firefox
[02:06] <sudharsh> :)
[02:06] <thegladiator> open office is a big mem hog ?  it takes long to load
[02:07] <mwe> duncanm: that's odd. check logs
[02:07] <_jason> duncanm, are you running SCIM?
[02:07] <jenda> thegladiator: yeah... but you can just leae the core open.
[02:07] <duncanm> _jason: i'm, 1.4, though
[02:07] <jenda> leave even
[02:07] <thegladiator> jenda, how can I leave the core open ?
[02:07] <sudharsh> thegladiator...thers oo quick starter
[02:07] <thegladiator> sudharsh, where ?
[02:08] <thegladiator> !oo
[02:08] <joseph> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ ---> spatial nautilus ---> 0 results of about 7189 pages
[02:08] <ubotu> thegladiator: Wish i knew
[02:08] <sudharsh> click add to panel in panel
[02:08] <thegladiator> !ooepnoffice
[02:08] <ubotu> Wish i knew, thegladiator
[02:08] <_jason> duncanm, you may want to check if that is the problem if you can't think of anything else
[02:08] <mwe> can't you wait ten secons for it to start?
[02:08] <sudharsh> u can add that to the panel
[02:08] <lowman62> duncanm: I just came in here ...are you installing version 1.5?
[02:08] <thegladiator> mwe, I could but what if every doc takes the same time
[02:08] <duncanm> lowman62: yeah
[02:09] <thegladiator> ?
[02:09] <lowman62> duncanm: there is a special way to install that ...hold on I have it for you
[02:09] <duncanm> _jason: i guess so, the scim in breezy is really botched
[02:09] <lowman62> duncanm: do this http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/45917/index.html
[02:09] <sudharsh> thegladiator right click on the top panel
[02:09] <duncanm> lowman62: if you're talking about the wiki, that i know already, thanks
[02:09] <thegladiator> sudharsh, ok and ?
[02:09] <lowman62> is not the wiki duncanm
[02:10] <sudharsh> Add to panel OO quick starter
[02:10] <thegladiator> i am on kde
[02:10] <thegladiator> its not there for kde?
[02:10] <duncanm> i fear the problem is with scim, though
[02:10] <sudharsh> oops sorry.i dont use kde
[02:10] <thegladiator> np.
[02:10] <jenda> thegladiator: you can just close all the documents open and leave the blank window open.
[02:10] <jenda> !openoffice
[02:10] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, jenda
[02:10] <sudharsh> thegladiator..anyways open up a terminal
[02:11] <thegladiator> jenda, yes and?
[02:11] <jenda> thegladiator: that's it - if you just leave it open - it won't have to load every time.
[02:11] <thegladiator> yes got you
[02:11] <sudharsh> thegladiator....i remember seeing oo quick starter in synaptic
[02:11] <thegladiator> i shall check it out
[02:12] <thegladiator> its a package ?
[02:12] <sudharsh> try that...my synaptic is now busy
[02:12] <jenda> thegladiator: but if there's a better solution, then don't pay me any attention :)
[02:12] <joseph> I need information on how to get nautilus into spatial mode
[02:12] <ninapina> hi - where do i get a .deb for Firefox 1.5?
[02:12] <sudharsh> joseph: thats didnt work?
[02:12] <joseph> no
[02:12] <thegladiator> jenda, i can assess both mothods , so yoru opinion is valued
[02:13] <sudharsh> joseph: it works for me??
[02:13] <thegladiator> sudharsh, how much does a 512 MB DDR cost in Ind ?
[02:13] <sudharsh> !!
[02:13] <ubotu> ??
[02:13] <jenda> thegladiator: alrighty (ATM, I'm looking to install the quick starter as well
[02:13] <thegladiator> sudharsh, my mem is 256
[02:13] <sudharsh> costs around 2300/- in chennai
[02:13] <joseph> sudharsh: I just did a brand-new fresh install of ubuntu, so...
[02:13] <thegladiator> sudharsh, thanks
[02:13] <joseph> sudharsh: do I need to restart X for this to work?
[02:13] <sudharsh> joseph: no not needed
[02:14] <sudharsh> what did u do...?
[02:14] <sudharsh> u must uncheck the 'open in browser windows'
[02:14] <sudharsh> in behaviour tab
[02:14] <thegladiator> ooqs is there for kde and gnome . good
[02:14] <sudharsh> thegladiator: tell me if it works
[02:14] <thegladiator> yes
[02:14] <thegladiator> will do that
[02:15] <joseph> I unchecked the following:  System ---> File System ---> Behavior --->  Always open in browser windows
[02:15] <sudharsh> no....
[02:15] <sudharsh> preferences
[02:15] <thegladiator> joseph, whats the problem again  ?  i missed the conversation
[02:15] <joseph> I want to enable spatial nautilus
[02:15] <thegladiator> i have been toggling with these things
[02:15] <nase> make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build: No such file or directory.  Stop.
[02:15] <nase> how do i fix this
[02:15] <thegladiator> ah.
[02:15] <sudharsh> nase..install kernel headers
[02:16] <thegladiator> it is by default spatial you changed it ?
[02:16] <nase> i did
[02:16] <nase> along with libsdl-dev
[02:16] <thegladiator> or am I wrong?
[02:16] <joseph> thegladiator: it is by default spatial?
[02:16] <sudharsh> joseph: dont kick me....u must uncheck it
[02:16] <caugier> is there someone working on the livecd here?
[02:16] <sudharsh> no not in breezy
[02:16] <theine> Is /etc/locale.gen somehow deprecated in Dapper?
[02:16] <nase> sudharsh, how do i do that then
[02:17] <theine> It does not exist anymore on my system and therefore nothing happens if I do "sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales"...
[02:17] <sudharsh> sorry...did u install kernel headers
[02:17] <joseph> System ---> Preferences ---> File Management ---> Behavior---> Always open in browser windows
[02:17] <nase> sudharsh, whats the apt-get thing for that?
[02:17] <theine> or "sudo locale-gen" for that matter
[02:17] <joseph> sudharsh: ^ that is what I did
[02:17] <sudharsh> ah wait
[02:17] <sudharsh> h\joseph try restarting X
[02:17] <sudharsh> worked for me outta box
[02:17] <joseph> oh wait
[02:18] <joseph> sudharsh: it works, unless I choose Applications -->  Accessories ---> File Browser
[02:18] <joseph> but that is normal
[02:18] <thegladiator> my  comp has started to upgrade oo
[02:18] <jenda> thegladiator: can't find oo quickstarter in the repos. any luck yet?
[02:18] <thegladiator> i can find it jenda
[02:18] <jenda> thegladiator: and what's it called?
[02:18] <sudharsh> nase: try apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:19] <thegladiator> ooqs
[02:19] <joseph> sudharsh: thanks
[02:19] <phlax> hi there - ive upgraded to dapper, and my second xinerama screen (os radeon driver) has ceased to work. I was wondering if anyone knows of changes in X that might have caused this, or should i file a bug?
[02:19] <nase> E: Couldn't find package kernel-headers-2.6.12-9-386
[02:19] <thegladiator> seacrh for ooqsgnome /ooqskde
[02:19] <thegladiator> you can find it ?
[02:19] <star07> hiall
[02:19] <sudharsh> oh do an apt-get update
[02:19] <thegladiator> star07, hi
[02:19] <star07> first time here
[02:19] <joseph> on to my next question:  why does ubuntu show ESD as audio output and OSS for input?  shouldn't it be ALSA for both?
[02:19] <thegladiator> jenda, its there ?
[02:19] <jenda> thegladiator: OK, got it
[02:19] <thegladiator> kl
[02:20] <sudharsh> joseph: u just change it if u wnat :)
[02:20] <star07> i got a question to ask
[02:20] <sudharsh> ask...
[02:20] <thegladiator> !ask
[02:20] <sophtpaw> can someone tell me how to unrar
[02:20] <star07> is it possible i remote access windows PC from ubuntu?
[02:21] <Myrtti> unrar -e
[02:21] <sudharsh> sudo apt-get rar
[02:21] <sudharsh> sudo apt-get install rar
[02:21] <sudharsh> sorry
[02:21] <star07> will remote thru the VPN
[02:21] <phlax> star07: tightvnc
[02:21] <sudharsh> tinyvnc!
[02:21] <nase> sudharsh, so whats up? why cant i install kernel headers
[02:21] <shaggy_bjp> hello everyone
[02:21] <sophtpaw> ok, then unrar -e
[02:21] <phlax> star07: *vnc
[02:21] <joseph> sudharsh: what are the differences between ESD and ALSA
[02:21] <star07> oh
[02:21] <sudharsh> ESD -> Enlightenment Sound Demon
[02:21] <star07> any version of VNC will do, is it? then windows PC must have VNC also?
[02:22] <sudharsh> nase: go to synaptic then
[02:22] <joseph> sudharsh:  but isn't ESD just a front-end for ALSA?
[02:22] <nase> sudharsh, Unpacking linux-kernel-headers (from .../linux-kernel-headers_<IP_ADDRESS>-0ubuntu13_i386.deb) ...
[02:22] <Hoxzer> what would be good direct connect client?
[02:22] <nase> thats in my konsole history
[02:22] <phlax> star07: install *vnc on windows then use terminal server client on ubuntu
[02:22] <sudharsh> cool mate
[02:22] <nase> so i already have it installed... right?
[02:22] <sudharsh> joseph oh i didnt know that
[02:22] <joseph> I don't know either
[02:22] <star07> oh, so this is the software that MUST install on windows PC lo?
[02:23] <phlax> star07: i think its called that - my apps menu is broken!
[02:23] <sudharsh> terminal server client
[02:23] <star07> wat u means, phlax?
[02:23] <phlax> star07: tsclient
[02:23] <star07> oh
[02:23] <sudharsh> star07 terminal server client
[02:23] <thegladiator> when dapper comes , I can  upgrade or something ? rather than doing a fresh install ?
[02:23] <nase> sudharsh, linux-kernel-headers is already the newest version.
[02:23] <nase> sudharsh,  still doesnt work though.
[02:23] <thegladiator> i dont wanna lose my present config
[02:23] <phlax> star07: ...is the program to use on ubuntu to connect to a windows vnc box.
[02:24] <thegladiator> and all those third party support
[02:24] <star07> oic, now understand....thx everyone
[02:24] <sudharsh> nase: i suggest d/l the vanilla kernel and compile it
[02:24] <nase> why..
[02:24] <star07> is all of u using breezy now?
[02:24] <thegladiator> like pop in the CD and hit UPGRADE as does Windows XP , over a win 98 :)
[02:24] <sudharsh> well breezy does that
[02:25] <sudharsh> upgraded from hoary to breezy
[02:25] <thegladiator> i see . i did a fresh install
[02:25] <sudharsh> of coure u must put the cd while 'in' the desktop
[02:25] <thegladiator> thats cool
[02:25] <jenda> thegladiator: change your sources list and type "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and you're done
[02:26] <thegladiator> jenda, not even the cd is required in that case ?
[02:26] <jenda> Yeah
[02:26] <sudharsh> that broke my bud's system
[02:26] <jenda> I think
[02:26] <jenda> But yes - it's a little unpolished
[02:26] <phos-phoros> "sudo apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade ?
[02:26] <star07> how's the breezy?
[02:26] <sudharsh> gladiator dat broke my friends installation
[02:26] <star07> i still using hoary
[02:26] <sudharsh> star07 go for it
[02:26] <thegladiator> sudharsh, as jenda said , is it possible to do it online without the cd even ?
[02:26] <star07> Mm..ok...
[02:26] <sudharsh> it is but broke my friends pc
[02:26] <thegladiator> star07, always the newer version is better
[02:27] <star07> so, i just use apt-get will update to breezy?
[02:27] <sudharsh> but results may vary and its not recommended
[02:27] <star07> need to change any at sources.list?
[02:27] <sudharsh> yes
[02:27] <_jason> ubotu, tell star07 about breezy
[02:27] <joseph> why does synaptic show 2 instances of "linux-image-2.6.12-10-386"
[02:27] <sudharsh> change all instances of hoary to breezy....
[02:27] <jenda> star07: yes, definitely. Youcan get a complete sources.list here:
[02:27] <jenda> !easysource
[02:27] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:28] <sudharsh> must be of diff architecture
[02:28] <cr4ck5h07> whats the command to run wine on ubuntu i forgot :(
[02:28] <sudharsh> cr4ck5h07 u cant run wine as it is
[02:28] <ccooke> cr4ck5h07: have you installed it?
[02:28] <j2daosh> ok... back... how do i add multiple commands to a line? not with the | command...
[02:28] <sudharsh> use  wine <name of the exe>
[02:28] <cr4ck5h07> I think i lauched it before
[02:28] <ccooke> cr4ck5h07: sudo apt-get install wine
[02:28] <ccooke> cr4ck5h07: that'll install it
[02:28] <cr4ck5h07> just to install wine i mean
[02:29] <sudharsh> separate the command with ;
[02:29] <cr4ck5h07> just to type in alt + F2 i mean the command
[02:29] <phlax> cr4ck5h07: its worth checking out the wine repository at sourceforge for recent versions - they have debs.
[02:29] <sudharsh> cr4ck5h07 open up a terminal
[02:29] <j2daosh> so i can do a cut -f1 -d' ' ; cut -f5 -d' ' > User and that will cut field 1 and 5 and drop them into a file called user?
[02:30] <sudharsh> yes but it'll be taken as separate commands if thats what u want
[02:30] <joseph> what is the difference between ESD and ALSA?
[02:30] <star07> Mm...still very new on ubuntu....  so, dunno wat can do under the ubuntu...:)
[02:30] <ccooke> j2daosh: better would be to use: awk '{print $1" "$5}'
[02:30] <sudharsh> star07 are a wannabe developer like me
[02:30] <cr4ck5h07> I think it was  "wine progman" or something i just need a  little correction
[02:30] <thegladiator> sudharsh, are there many in chn who uses ubuntu , hows the popularity there ? are you a student
[02:30] <sudharsh> *u
[02:30] <j2daosh> well i want the name and the pid side by side when they get dropped into the file
[02:30] <sudharsh> yes....
[02:31] <j2daosh> yeah i tried that ccooke but i need other parameters... it wouldn't take that command
[02:31] <sudharsh> our LUG once gave away bout 50 o them in a school
[02:31] <thegladiator> sudharsh, thats great .
[02:31] <star07> what is wanabe developer means?
[02:32] <sudharsh> :D...u bet..my mom's school has 5 pcs runnin em
[02:32] <j2daosh> u wanna be a devloper
[02:32] <JoeBlow> star07, it means u wanna be a developer
[02:32] <j2daosh> lol
[02:32] <JoeBlow> star07, its in english
[02:32] <star07> oh
[02:32] <lowman62> I know ubuntu became real popular in my neighborhood...my cds are making their way up the block :)
[02:32] <star07> heehee
[02:32] <JoeBlow> star07, jp
[02:32] <thegladiator> thats simply amazing, a school using something as coo as ubuntu in India . wow
[02:32] <star07> i still in blur
[02:32] <star07> jp?
[02:32] <JoeBlow> lowman62, thats great, i got my father in law to try it the other day
[02:32] <sophtpaw> can someone help me
[02:32] <sophtpaw> i'm puzzled
[02:32] <thegladiator> !someone
[02:32] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[02:32] <sophtpaw> trying to unrar files in a folder
[02:33] <JoeBlow> lowman62, kinda wich i hadnt tho, because he calls me constantly now with quesations
[02:33] <sudharsh> Chennai is known for the open source practice..
[02:33] <sophtpaw> but it wont let me cd into the folder - says it isn't there!
[02:33] <JoeBlow> sophtpaw, just use the program
[02:33] <lowman62> JoeBlow: my neighbors are all fed up with windows...not that i blame them :P
[02:33] <j2daosh> tar -vft file
[02:33] <sophtpaw> but it clearly is because i can see it
[02:33] <thegladiator> sudharsh, good. are you working or student?
[02:33] <sudharsh> sopthpaw did u install rar
[02:33] <sudharsh> student
[02:33] <JoeBlow> lowman62, I hate windows, peice of shit, but i gotta play games somehow
[02:33] <sophtpaw> JoeBlow: the program?
[02:33] <et0> I keep getting "No Symbols found" when I try to run X after I installed Ubuntu. dpkg-reconfigure doesnt work. Any clues or hints?
[02:34] <JoeBlow> sophtpaw, my ubuntu 5.10 came with a program for .rar
[02:34] <lowman62> JoeBlow: I know what you mean...my neighborhood is in my icq list errr :P
[02:34] <sudharsh> JoeBlow it doesnt
[02:34] <JoeBlow> lowman62, my neighborhood in america wouldnt even know what ICQ was
[02:34] <sudharsh> thats in the repos...its the non-free thingy
[02:34] <sophtpaw> JoeBlow: so tell me how you'd unrar files in a folder /home/JoeBlow for eg
[02:34] <superante> hi
[02:35] <JoeBlow> sophtpaw, if i find it real fast on synaptic, im gonna punch u in the face
[02:35] <superante> new ubuntu user
[02:35] <superante> ;)
[02:35] <thegladiator> sudharsh, !new
[02:35] <JoeBlow> * punches supernate
[02:35] <thegladiator> !new
[02:35] <ubotu> thegladiator: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:35] <thegladiator> :)
[02:35] <lowman62> JoeBlow: I am so glad I am not a gamer...not to say anything wrong with that..it is just that I can just step away from windows completely...I told my wife that the breezy version I put on her laptop was the new windows version and she loves it LOL ...but she hates linux ;)
[02:35] <j2daosh> untar -vft filename /home/joeblow
[02:35] <JoeBlow> sophtpaw, its called unrar free
[02:35] <caugier> hi, is there anyone who knows who i should contact for questions about the livecd ?
[02:35] <sophtpaw> :o
[02:35] <JoeBlow> lowman62, my wife loves linux , cause now she can say fuc windows, thats the only reason why
[02:35] <lowman62> JoeBlow: I am the neighborhood computer repair guy LOL
[02:36] <sudharsh> caugier uv come to the rite [lace
[02:36] <sophtpaw> JoeBlow: ok, so you don't do it from command line.  LOL
[02:36] <j2daosh> because linux is picky about that
[02:36] <geforceter> newbie says:  I want to try the ubuntu 5.1 live cd but i dono how to configure my graphic settings so its works...
[02:36] <caugier> sudharsh: ah good :-) so you know (or someone else) how th change the kernel (package) in a livecd?
[02:36] <JoeBlow> lowman62 , now , he even gets his own cards!
[02:37] <JoeBlow> lowman62 , no , he even gets his own cards!
[02:37] <sudharsh> u cant
[02:37] <j2daosh> i hate my nieghbors so i dont go outside
[02:37] <j2daosh> lol
[02:37] <JoeBlow> lowman62 , I just get arrested
[02:37] <Guardian> hi ppl
[02:37] <JoeBlow> I hate my neighbors too, but i only hang around outswide my house if im grilling, otherwise im in town
[02:37] <sophtpaw> j2daosh: yes, i have kept to the correct sizes
[02:37] <geforceter> it loads up until the logo and all but when it shu go to the desktop it shows purplish lines
[02:37] <JoeBlow> HI GUARDIAN!!!
[02:37] <j2daosh> sizes?
[02:37] <sudharsh> caugier..u cant change the kernel pkg in live cds
[02:37] <j2daosh> im talking capitol letters
[02:38] <sudharsh> geforceter check the xorg.conf
[02:38] <sophtpaw> yes, capital letters
[02:38] <Guardian> hi just installed ubuntu, the grub menu does not respond to the up/down keys, any idea :) ? (i'm on a dell inspiron 8600 laptop)
[02:38] <j2daosh> can u get to it in the gui?
[02:38] <JoeBlow> time to smoke a ciggarette
[02:38] <j2daosh> joe... damn u
[02:38] <lowman62> JoeBlow: I am bringing in on average of $500 extra from neighbors insisting on installing norton futilities...and destroying their systems for lack of knowledge on how to use it properly :P
[02:38] <j2daosh> now i need one
[02:38] <caugier> sudharsh: i meant making a custom livecd with a custom kernel ;-)
[02:38] <geforceter> sudharsh: ya i came here before and they told me to do the sudo thing
[02:38] <JoeBlow> lowman62, dude, i shuld do that, but its hard to do here, u have to get a+. and its in german here
[02:38] <sophtpaw> yes,
[02:39] <sudharsh> caugier...i m not that advanced user :0
[02:39] <rraajj> Guardian: Does it happen all the time? Even at a fresh boot?
[02:39] <sudharsh> ubuntu-dev channels may help u
[02:39] <geforceter> but i tried setting the frequency for my crt monitor maualy but with no avail
[02:39] <lowman62> JoeBlow: I have been working on computers for years long before the internet went public...I refuse to get certs based on windblowz
[02:39] <Guardian> rraajj: before i had gentoo, and grub worked correctly
[02:40] <sophtpaw> j2daosh: one of my folders is Desktop iwth a capital 'D' and i can access that in CLI. why not Hikaru?
[02:40] <caugier> sudharsh: k, that's why i was asking about the place, i guess some kind of #ubuntu-dev must exist. do you know?
[02:40] <Guardian> rraajj: in fact keyboard is not working at all, when on the grub menu
[02:40] <sudharsh> ubuntu-developer
[02:40] <rraajj> Guardian: I mean does it happen even at powerup? It also happens to me, but only when I "soft reboot". (ctrl+alt+del)
[02:40] <sudharsh> check the website for the list
[02:41] <lowman62> <--smoke break :)
[02:41] <et0> I keep getting "No Symbols found" when I try to run X after I installed Ubuntu. dpkg-reconfigure doesnt work. Any clues or hints?
[02:41] <Guardian> rraajj: weird, gonna try with power up :)
[02:41] <caugier> sudharsh: i was looking for something more interactive but thx :-)
[02:41] <geforceter> ...?
[02:42] <sudharsh> geforceter install the nvidia glx package
[02:42] <sudharsh> if u r havin nvidia that is
[02:42] <geforceter> ya i am having it
[02:42] <geforceter> xfx 6600gt
[02:43] <geforceter> so its not a problem with the monitor?
[02:43] <sudharsh> no..i dont think so
[02:43] <star07> after i upgrade to breezy, will all my previous setting gone??
[02:43] <nase> just do a dist-upgrade
[02:43] <nase> o_O
[02:43] <star07> ^_^
[02:44] <tvo> hm, in which package(s) is /usr/include/GL/gl.h supposed to be? (dapper)
[02:44] <sudharsh> star07 r u havin a separate home partiton
[02:44] <karlwrk> I realise this might be kinda vague, but has anyone reported serious USB storage performance issues with recent kernels?
[02:44] <star07> wat means?
[02:45] <sudharsh> karlwrk..me yess with unbranded roadside devices
[02:45] <star07> i think i dun hav
[02:45] <karlwrk> rsync from a usb drive with the 2.6.12 breezy stock kernel reports 20meg a second, and takes a real time of about 1minute
[02:45] <karlwrk> but with 2.6.15, rsync still reports around 20meg/sec, but a real time of nearly 6 minutes,
[02:45] <star07> how i seperate it?
[02:45] <sudharsh> star07 it doesnt matter....but it helps while switching between distros
[02:45] <star07> oh
[02:45] <karlwrk> during which time the load average gets up to about 6, and the system is almost unresponsive
[02:46] <star07> can explain to me how it help?
[02:46] <geforceter2> i was disconnected
[02:46] <karlwrk> I've tried using the anticipatory and the cfq IO schedulers, but they don't seem to be the culprit
[02:46] <star07> i not very understand on it.
[02:46] <karlwrk> sudharsh: what do you mean by unbranded roadside drivers?
[02:46] <sudharsh> star07 lets suppose u migrate from ubuntu to fedora
[02:47] <sudharsh> u know the cheap unbrande stuff
[02:47] <JoeBlow> sudharsh, we are just supposing tho
[02:47] <star07> ok
[02:47] <karlwrk> cheap unbranded hardware you mean?
[02:47] <karlwrk> I'dbuy that if it was just always bad,
[02:47] <sudharsh> yup,,,o i meant devices
[02:47] <geforceter2> sudharsh : how do i intall the glx package?
[02:47] <karlwrk> but it was perfectly acceptable and normal with 2.6.12, but abyssmal with 2.6.15
[02:47] <lowman62> ok am back
[02:47] <lowman62> what i miss ;P
[02:47] <sudharsh> try apt-get install nvidia-glx
[02:48] <JoeBlow> the funny thing is, we all have our own hands, but we come from different moms
[02:48] <renedox> lowman62: not a lot
[02:48] <karlwrk> nvidia-glx for the usb storage problems?
[02:48] <lowman62> renedox: ty :P
[02:48] <sudharsh> no it wasnt meant for u karwlk
[02:48] <geforceter2> the package come with the live cd?
[02:48] <sudharsh> does all other hw work
[02:48] <karlwrk> sorry, yeah, saw it was for geforceter2
[02:49] <karlwrk> sudharsh: yeah, everything else is cool
[02:49] <sudharsh> no it doesnt..
[02:49] <star07> so, sudharsh, means if i migrate from unbuntu to fedora, the home won't change, is it?
[02:49] <sudharsh> karlwrk what about lsusb and all
[02:49] <karlwrk> still have the kubuntu automount bug, but that's the same as it was with both kernels
[02:49] <sudharsh> bungo star07
[02:49] <star07> if seperate, then means still a bit troublesome, is it?
[02:50] <sudharsh> well u still egt ur themes and all
[02:50] <sudharsh> it aint troiblesome
[02:50] <star07> i'm not apt-get updating the breezy....^_^
[02:51] <joseph> "Open in new tab" does not work in Xchat
[02:51] <star07> *now, typo
[02:51] <star07> :)
[02:51] <geforceter2> how can i install the nvidia glx packgae using a live cd
[02:51] <sudharsh> well done...
[02:51] <geforceter2> hope i am not irritating
[02:51] <sudharsh> geforceter2 u cant..
[02:51] <et0> I keep getting "No Symbols found" when I try to run X after I installed Ubuntu. dpkg-reconfigure doesnt work. Any clues or hints?
[02:51] <sudharsh> nvidia glx in available only in online repos
[02:52] <karlwrk> sudharsh: and?
[02:52] <karlwrk> you can still edit sources.list and apt-get while running
[02:52] <karlwrk> just that I don't think you can actually _use_ the new driver :)
[02:52] <sudharsh> yeah but whats the use
[02:52] <star07> how come in gnome, capture screen need to use GIMP to capture?
[02:52] <joseph> for example:  "addons.mozilla.org"  <---right-click and choose "Mozilla Firefox" and then "Open in new tab".  The tab does not open ever.
[02:52] <star07> any other ways more easy?
[02:52] <geforceter2> ping
[02:53] <karlwrk> well, it's more useful for other packages :)
[02:53] <_jason> star07, Prn Scr button
[02:53] <sudharsh> u can use the 'print screen' in ur keyboard
[02:53] <geforceter3> shit dc again
[02:53] <sudharsh> and paste it wherever u want
[02:53] <_jason> star07, or system -> take screenshot
[02:53] <Sionide> on
[02:53] <Sionide> oops
[02:53] <Catch22> hello, im currently downloading ubuntu, but ive got a question; ive got an SMC wlan PCI card which wasnt supported by mandrake 10.. is it possible to see if this card is supported by ubuntu?
[02:53] <star07> after i press, when want to paste somewhere, the "paste" is disable one
[02:53] <sudharsh> u gotta paste in gimp lol
[02:53] <netstar> Where's the best place to get ubuntu wallpapers from?
[02:53] <yancheng> where can i get the dos2unix tool in ubuntu?
[02:54] <sudharsh> try gnome-look.org
[02:54] <star07> _jason, i got it
[02:54] <sudharsh> dosbox
[02:54] <karlwrk> Catch22: given how clearly wlan cards are marked, the only reliable way is to try it out
[02:54] <Catch22> mkay..
[02:54] <karlwrk> with 5.04, you often couldn't even try it out with a live cd :(
[02:54] <geforceter3> suddahrsh i might install the full ubuntu version but i am hesistant because i fear the graphic might not be supported again
[02:54] <star07> sudharsh, i had try paste on gimp, it still in disable mode
[02:54] <Catch22> i tried it with a wrapper in mandrake but that didnt work so well
[02:54] <Catch22> ndiswrapper
[02:54] <Catch22> caused a lot of troubles
[02:54] <sudharsh> well it should work
[02:54] <star07> that's what i confuse how i going to do
[02:54] <geforceter3> the last two times i installed debian and ubuntu i coundnt get the graphical interface and gave up