[18:40] <zykotick9> BobJonkman1: hey.
[18:40] <BobJonkman1> Hi! Fancy meeting you here!
[18:40] <BobJonkman1> You still in the Ottawa area?
[18:41] <zykotick9> sorry, as i don't actually use, or recommend to others, the use of ubuntu... i don't really feel comfortable "organizing" ubuntu-hour anymore.  I might attend a meeting (for old time sake) if someone else was to organize it :)
[18:41] <zykotick9> ya, i'm still in OT
[18:42]  * zykotick9 is currently using an ubuntu derivative however - trisqul
[18:42] <BobJonkman1> Yes, Sebastien was considering running one in Ottawa; I wasn't sure you were still around
[18:42] <BobJonkman1> Yup, I've used Trisquel too. You should start a !trisquel group on SN
[18:43] <zykotick9> BobJonkman1: ACTUALLY, don't you run an instance with some groups?  if YOU could start a trisquel group, i'd be very greatful (as would many others)
[18:44] <BobJonkman1> Certainly using Trisquel gives the warm and fuzzy FAIFs that I'm not getting so much from Ubuntu
[18:44] <zykotick9> s/many/some/ ;)  trisquel isn't exactly a big community
[18:45] <zykotick9> love your comment above BobJonkman1 ;)
[18:46]  * BobJonkman1 believes FAIF should be a new word
[18:47] <BobJonkman1> OK, !trisquel group on the way
[18:51] <zykotick9> BobJonkman1: awesome!!!  thanks so much.
[18:51] <zykotick9> BobJonkman1: IF an ottawa ubuntu-hour appears, post it on gnu/social - and i'll certainly attend.
[18:51] <BobJonkman1> I must confess I've been recommending Linux Mint to people recently.  But that's probably less FAIF than Ubuntu
[18:52] <zykotick9> it is... but i understand the recommendation
[18:52] <BobJonkman1> zykotick9: Will do! Are you subscribed to the Ubuntu-ca mailing lists?
[18:53] <BobJonkman1> I'm no fan of Unity, and Linux Mint with the Mate desktop is an enviroment that doesn't get in my way
[18:53] <BobJonkman1> Right now I'm using Xubuntu with XFCE
[18:53] <zykotick9> i wouln't recommend trisquel or debian to people (new users especially).  actually i'm not currently on the ubuntu-ca mailing list... but i'll correct that (so long as there is a digest version) right now.
[18:53] <BobJonkman1> Yes, ubuntu-ca has a digest (it's Mailman).  Traffic is light, but bursty.
[18:54] <zykotick9> currently i'm using the very unfriendly, awesomewm+tmux as my interface, with lots of terminal apps.
[18:54] <BobJonkman1> Mostly it's me spouting off about upcoming events
[18:54] <zykotick9> i certainly do miss the "community" of people that surround ubuntu...
[18:55] <BobJonkman1> Ubuntu Hours in Kitchener-Waterloo are largely distro-agnostic.  We're all Ubuntu users or former users, but all distros are welcome
[18:56] <zykotick9> nice
[18:57] <BobJonkman1> We get largely the same crowd for Ubuntu Hours, the KWLUG, Software Freedom Day, &c.
[18:57] <BobJonkman1> So, really, it's just a group of friends getting together, and welcoming others
[18:58] <zykotick9> ubuntu-ca subscribed and confirmed
[19:00]  * BobJonkman1 is still working on !trisquel - do you know of a good logo, maybe 400px by 400px ?
[19:04] <zykotick9> https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/trademark-guidelines certainly says you can use to logo, search for a file...
[19:08] <zykotick9> http://www.gratisylegal.com/2013/03/distribuciones-linux-trisquel-gnulinux.html perhaps this could be resized?  i didn't find a 400x400 file in my search...
[19:19] <zykotick9> Sebastien: so you're from Ottawa?
[19:23] <BobJonkman1> zykotick9: http://sn.jonkman.ca/group/trisquel
[19:23] <zykotick9> BobJonkman1: thanks so much!
[19:24] <BobJonkman1> You're welcome. As long as you're on Freenode anyway, pop into #social to chat about SN or GNUsocial


[01:17] <craigbass1976> As of yesterday, I'm running on an ibook g4.  It's working for the most part, but won't wake up after shutting the lid.  Anyone else running the ppc version of lubuntu?
[03:55] <frankcox777> hi
[03:56] <frankcox777> I have a new install of windows-lubuntu 11.4 and when I boot I get an out of range message -eventually it will boot lubuntu but I cannot access grup at all
[03:57] <frankcox777> grub :} can anyone help with this?
[04:04] <frankcox777> will anyone?
[05:58] <jabagawee> where are wireless profiles stored? i'm not entirely sure what wireless manager i'm using
[06:05] <Ascavasaion> Morning
[06:06] <bioterror> jabagawee, you're networkmanager and nm-applet
[06:06] <bioterror> +using
[06:06] <jabagawee> i see, /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections then?
[11:21] <luissantander> Hi all I am looking for someone to help me install libreoffice in Lubuntu 12.04 offline
[11:30] <kanliot> wtf he left in 3-4 minutes
[11:30] <kanliot> excuuuuees---ME!
[11:33] <Unit193> That's not abnormal, just ignore it.
[11:38] <theGrgz> For *buntu ISO rematering purposes, would it matter if I'm chrooting from a non *buntu host distro?
[17:57] <Ivoz> a new user's thoughts on lxde/lubuntu: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/yuiq6/i_have_a_little_asus_netbook_what_sort_of_linuxy/c601okq
[18:14] <foxdonut> hi all
[18:15] <foxdonut> would you say Lubuntu is well-suited for a old laptop that will only be used for surfing the 'net? or do you have other recommendations?
[18:15] <Ivoz> Very well suited
[18:15] <bioterror> depends what's old laptop
[18:16] <foxdonut> I want to wipe out Windows, basically to protect the users from themselves..
[18:16] <bioterror> my pentium M 1.7GHz is quite sluggish, you can live with it
[18:16] <foxdonut> I'm not sure of the specs yet, but it's likely a 3-4 year-old Dell
[18:16] <Unit193> And you have the whole PAE issue.
[18:17] <foxdonut> PAE?
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> !pae
[18:17] <foxdonut> ohh, right
[18:18] <foxdonut> don't have my hands on the laptop yet, but I'll keep that in mind--thanks
[18:18] <ActionParsnip> foxdonut: instead of repeating the confusig term, try websearching and finding out..
[18:18] <foxdonut> ActionParsnip: of course, but this is an *interactive* google ;-)
[18:19] <ActionParsnip> if you do some searching you will learn more
[18:19] <foxdonut> yes, you're right.
[18:20] <foxdonut> I did some searching already, always ends up on Lubuntu, Xubuntu, Puppy, CrunchBang, Macpup
[18:20] <foxdonut> Lubuntu rings most true to me
[18:21] <foxdonut> but just wanted to confirm, it's always good to hear live success stories.
[18:24] <ActionParsnip> xpud is pretty sweet
[18:32] <foxdonut> xpud?
[18:32] <foxdonut> just kidding! :)
[18:32] <foxdonut> looks nice
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> yes, it boots super fast too
[18:34] <bioterror> well
[18:34] <bioterror> 3-4 years old dell is something like d430 or d630
[18:35] <holstein> Ivoz: i would expect the old xandros to have the old celeron processor underclocked to 600, which you can do with lubuntu if you like and prefer for heat and power reasons
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> bioterror: I run a full gnome/unity session on a Dell D420 without issue
[18:55] <bioterror> d420 is single core
[18:55] <bioterror> d430 is dual core
[18:55] <bioterror> might be a little slow with that "atom" kind of cpu of d420
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> d420 here is dual core
[18:57] <foxdonut> if it's just to surf the 'net.. can Lubuntu be used as a minimal OS?
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1172357/
[18:57] <bioterror> ActionParsnip, okay! ;D
[18:58] <bioterror> I've only had couple of d430's
[18:59] <bioterror> the one's I've seen at work was core solo of 420
[18:59] <ActionParsnip> this is a duo :)
[20:31] <psilo23> Anyone here got despotify to work on Lubuntu 12.04 64bit ?
[20:38] <holstein> whats the issue? i dont use either of them
[20:39] <psilo23> http://pastebin.com/mxXiYQPV
[20:40] <psilo23> but on a 32bit machine it works without any problem
[20:41] <holstein> sounds like something up with the 64bit version ..i would let the maintainer know and try and track down the issue
[20:42] <holstein> http://protocol7.com/archives/2009/02/24/building-despotify-on-ubuntu/ might have relevant 64bit error info
[20:44] <psilo23> yeah ive read that before
[20:44] <psilo23> and tried but no luck
[20:44] <psilo23> i end up at the same point as the guy in the comments there
[20:46] <psilo23> bit frustrating because the official linux client also crashes alot here, hoped despotify could save me :P
[21:15] <silverarrow> is there a common reason why midori doesn`t work with short-keys
[21:16] <holstein> is it supposed to?
[21:16] <silverarrow> I think so, it has all the short-keys listed under "edit" in toolbar
[21:16] <holstein> see if this looks in order for you https://midori.jottit.com/keyboard_shortcuts
[21:17] <holstein> you are on a mac keyboard? maybe you need to hit some apple or function key
[21:18] <silverarrow> oh, I am familiar with the apple keyboard
[21:18] <silverarrow> shortkeys work in firefox
[21:18] <holstein> i would try a newer and/or older version of midori... i would try midori on another machine.. try and figure out where the issue is
[21:19] <silverarrow> someone answered on the midori channel after all, and apparently there has been a bug with some of the older version
[21:21] <holstein> maybe https://launchpad.net/~midori/+archive/ppa will do the trick
[21:44] <Ivoz> how would one get the man file for strftime ?
[21:48] <wxl> Ivoz: man 3 strftime
[21:48] <wxl> in terminal obviously XD
[21:52] <wxl> Ivoz: you could also use manpages.ubuntu.com http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man3/strftime.3.html
[22:12] <Ivoz> wxl: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/yuiq6/i_have_a_little_asus_netbook_what_sort_of_linuxy/c603vhk
[22:12] <Ivoz> wxl: afaik the user has lubuntu 12.04 installed
[22:13] <Unit193> Can't exactly help by proxy when you don't have much info...
[22:14] <wxl> on 12.10 and no problem here
[22:14] <wxl> for that matter it is on the ubuntu manpages
[22:14] <wxl> so it's unlikely that it's not included
[22:14] <wxl> but again, you can point them at that url
[22:16] <silverarrow> oh, thanks holstein
[22:21] <Ivoz> alright, thanks for your help wxl
[22:22] <silverarrow> install on powerpc
[22:22] <silverarrow> hmm
[22:22] <silverarrow> darn