[01:17] <foo> I'm moving an old digital ocean ubuntu 14.04 install to 18.04. I was going to see if I could retain old IP address... but after thinking about this a bit more, is there any disadvantage to simple updating A records (with a TTL of 10 minutes) to the new IP? Only downside is some IPs may cache for a 10 min window, correct?
[01:24] <tomreyn> you may need to update PTRs as well
[01:24] <tomreyn> + you will need to update the systems' network configuration
[01:26] <foo> tomreyn: reverse DNS and/or PTR, yes. Will put in a request for that. Network conf is defaulting to digital ocean. Thank you! Doing some tests now to ensure sites run well, fairly basic.
[01:27] <foo> tomreyn: Main purpose for PTR is for e-mail to not get flagged as spam, eh/ Or what else?
[01:27] <tomreyn> nay other systems with IP based access control configurations will need to be updated accordingly.
[01:29] <tomreyn> the main purpose of a PTR is to indicate who manages it, what its purpose is. FcRDNS is a common anti spam measure and the most common use of PTRs, yes.
[01:29] <foo> tomreyn: I see, thank you
[01:29] <tomreyn> (besides of just IPAM)
[03:39] <foo> I'm on ubuntu 18.04, previously 14.04. On 14.04 I had my init scripts in /etc/init/
[03:39] <foo> Is this still the place to put them on 18.04?
[06:01] <tomreyn> !releasenotes | foo: Yes, but only if you strictly still have to use sysv init scripts. You really should use systemd, though, as discussed in the release notes
[06:03] <foo> tomreyn: thank you, I set everything up on systemd now. Last step is to make sure it starts the service on reboot
[11:59] <lotuspsychje> ask your details here weq
[12:00] <weq> yeah just need to fix my driver again so I'm at the same point until I bug you guys with my issue.
[12:00] <weq> damn wierd netgear usb card.
[12:00] <weq> weird*
[12:01] <weq> anyone able to share some insight in why a ubuntu server aren't able to connect to a wifi network? I can see the wifi with iwlist and afaik the netplan configuration is correct. Networkctl just reports that it is degraded in connection status.
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> weq: interesting would be to paste your syslog errors about it, volunteers can take a look for you whats it about
[12:05] <lotuspsychje> weq: your server doesnt have an eth port?
[12:05] <weq> this is a home lab, so I have ethernet atm but I wish to utilize it on wifi for the convenince of it.
[12:06] <weq> having a ethernet cable across the entire living room ain't exactly a popular opinion in the household.
[12:06] <lotuspsychje> weq: could use those powerline eth adapters maybe in the future
[12:07] <lotuspsychje> server over wifi doenst sound very comfy right?
[12:07] <weq> it is just a lab, but it is so annoying to be so close but not having it pair with the AP. it can clearly detect it via iwlist scan
[12:09] <tomreyn> weq: if you can show the netplan and resulting systemd-networkd and wpa_supplicant configurations (without revealing passwords / sensitive info), that'd make it easier to help you
[12:09] <weq> trying to dump it all with pastebinit now
[12:10] <weq> I'm threading on water on my wifi skills in linux also fyi
[12:11] <weq> made a wpa_supplicant config with the iface name here http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wjM8J3dBsT
[12:13] <weq>  the netplan cfg is http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/J5BHMQS7Vd/
[12:13] <weq> I'm sorta making throwing everything at this box to see what sticks
[12:14] <weq> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/64Y4tbzsX6/ last 50 lines of the syslog
[12:15] <weq> dunno exactly what else would be of benefit to share, so please just ask for more intel.
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> weq: your server up to date?
[12:17] <weq> yes clean install of 18.04 update&upgrade completely.
[12:18] <weq> installed yesterday.
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> weq: chipset of your wifi card?
[12:19] <tomreyn> contents of /etc/systemd/network/ may be of interest
[12:19] <weq> afaik it is "Netgear-A6210", had to find a 3rd party driver and compile it myself.
[12:19] <tomreyn> line 13 of http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/J5BHMQS7Vd/ is indented by one extra speace. not an issue, though, i think.
[12:20] <lotuspsychje> weq: what was wrong with the driver module by default?
[12:20] <weq> unsupported afaik.
[12:21] <weq> tomreyn: the network folder is empty.
[12:21] <weq> removing the extra space and then running netplan generate & apply did nothing.
[12:22] <weq> nothing new of intrest in syslog either.
[12:22] <weq> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/c6TYmxkY6X/
[12:22] <weq> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7qhqFXmntx/ the driver seems to work
[12:24] <lotuspsychje> weq: can you tail -f /var/log/syslog and plug out wifi/plug back in and pastebin the output
[12:24] <tomreyn> nothing in /run/systemd/network either?
[12:24] <weq> sure. but the comments on the driver is that it might be unstable when plugging out and in
[12:25] <tomreyn> ...nor in /lib/systemd/network ?
[12:25] <weq> there is contents in that folder tomreyn, it has two config files. the one with the wlan0 interface just states that is will use dhcp etc nothing about SSID or anything similiar
[12:25] <weq> in the /run folder
[12:26] <weq> dhcp, linklocal,mtu and metric is all that is that file.
[12:28] <weq> Ty for the intrest, I have to step out a while because of the inlaws etc. but if you have any points just highlight me and I'll probably keep working at this through the x-mas so :P
[12:29] <tomreyn> i'venever done this myself, just reading up on it and doing peer review
[12:29] <TJ-> weq: I'm confused; if you're using netplan to configure the WiFi why are you also configuring wpa_supplicant?
[12:38] <bipul> When i'm booting Ubuntu server on Virtualbox. It's taking too much time to get network configured?
[15:27] <weq> TJ-: been basically trying everything I've been able to google regarding how to configure it to see what stuck to the box.
[15:29] <weq> I'm not that familiar with all these networking manager options in ubuntu anymore. and defintely not familiar with wifi in linux as my primary configuration is ethernet on linux and purely as a server host environment while this is basically a "wireless-lab" at the inlaws place.
[15:30] <TJ-> weq: if this is a 18.04+ server install it'll be using systemd-networkd
[15:30] <TJ-> weq: at each boot, the netplan YAML is 'rendered' into the network-manager config in /run/systemd/network/
[15:31] <weq> and that is "all" right? netplan to populate the systemd-networkd ?
[15:31] <TJ-> weq: you shouldn't need to do anything else; in fact if you manually create a wpa_supplicant.conf and have the wpa_supplicant service enabled it'll likely fight with systemd-networkd
[15:33] <weq> I'll make sure to remove wpa_supplicant then, am I supposed to see the configuation regarding ssid etc in the /run/systemd/network configuration? cause I can't find any trace of it there.
[15:34] <weq> it is present in my YAML and as far as I can see that configuration is correct though.
[15:34] <weq> are there any options to configure wpa2-psk etc incase there are some negation errors? just to rule things out.
[15:35] <TJ-> weq: I'm not entirely sure, my memory is struggling on that right now, but as I recall when configuring a wireless link systemd-networkd will activate it's own private instance of wpa_supplicant. I need to check on that though, got to ssh into a remote system to check!
[15:36] <weq> I know for a fact that the provider is not supporting this particular nic on nix but there are community made drivers that do seem to work as I can clearly see the wifi network when scanning with iwlist. But I'm not sure if there is some feature missing in the driver to be able to connect. This is a bit out of my daily routine.
[15:37] <weq> There is nothing of value in this system as of now so if it help I can set up a user and screen if you'd been be willing to take a look at this configuration later perhaps? We have have some x-mas things to go through here as I recon everyone has. regardless of geeky we are.
[15:39] <TJ-> weq: remind of the pastebin link with your netplan config; I'll test it here
[15:40] <TJ-> weq: no matter; found it
[15:40] <weq> ty for trying.
[15:47] <weq> if it is of any information this is the driver that I've compiled and installed              the wifi network when scanning with iwlist. But I'm not sure if there is some feature missing in the driver to be able to connect. This is a bit out of my daily   caliculk
[15:47] <weq> whops
[15:47] <weq> https://github.com/kaduke/Netgear-A6210
[15:47] <weq> this touchpad, sry fot he mispaste.
[15:55] <TJ-> weq: OK, I've created a separate YAML for wifis, and using "netplan --debug generate" to see what it creates. You should do that too to understand what it does. It looks like it generates both systemd-networkd and wpa_supplicant service files
[15:59] <TJ-> weq: I daren't allow it to actually apply since that system is a very long way away :)
[16:02] <weq> ok I'll try that soon to see what happens, but can you confirm that there is anything related to the wifi ssid and/or passphrase for the network in the /run configuration?
[16:04] <weq> cause I'm not that familiar with netplan, so just curious if I'm supposed to see any of the ssid&passphrase information in my yaml in the networkd config. Cause what I've understood so far is that netplan is just a simplified method of making networkd config. YAML -> systemd-networkd.conf's
[16:05] <weq> I would sorta expect that netplan would tell me of any syntax errors in the yaml though if it is sane.
[16:06] <TJ-> weq: as the --debug shows, it writes a wpa_supplicant conf file to /run/netplan/ which you can inspect
[16:07] <weq> ah k I'll traverse that as soon as I can, thanks. But are there any logs that will show the "pairing" attempt other that what I can expect from syslog?
[16:14] <TJ-> weq: it is creating systemd services so you can look at those logs
[16:14] <TJ-> weq: e.g. "systemctl status xxxx" or "journalctl -u xxxx.service"
[16:46] <mojtaba> Hello, I am using Ubuntu 16.04 LTS and Torsocks as system wide proxy. Do you know how can I fix DNS leakage through Socks?
[16:58] <weq> TJ-: hmm ok, I found the files you mentioned in run and the debug options. It is still the same error message. Dependency failed for WPA supplicant for netplan wlan0.
[16:59] <weq> and I found this, though it is related to archlinux. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=150087 It is similar but I'm not quite following the logic here. Not that familiar with systemctl at all.
[17:00] <weq> and it seems like that "wpa_supplicant" config I made with ssid etc aren't being used what so ever and it afaik it shouldn't conflict given that paths I see in netplan --debug
[17:01] <weq> and when I check the systemctl --all --type device I can see that the sys-subsystem-net-devices-wlan0.device is marked as loaded inactive dead
[17:02] <weq> instead of the others devices in the list that is active and plugged.
[17:03] <cryptodan_mobile> weq: does / did wifi work in a live session?
[17:04] <weq> you need to explain that further for me to give a response cryptodan_mobile. You mean just a live linux? Haven't tried it. There is no driver natively available so I had to compile and install it from a community source.
[17:07] <weq> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zXMKrhQ76B/
[17:07] <weq> this is the entire systemctl device list
[17:07] <cryptodan_mobile> Weq you sure that nic has a ralink chip
[17:08] <weq> it is able to scan see the avaiable wifis here.
[17:08] <lotuspsychje> wasnt it netgear?
[17:08] <weq> it is the netgear ac1200 usb dongle, which afaik is the Netgear A6210
[17:09] <weq> if I use iwlist to scan for wifi networks I can see the network I'm trying to connect to.
[17:09] <weq> and as far as I can see in the /run files that TJ- described earlier both the ssid and passphrase is correct.
[17:12] <cryptodan_mobile> weq: run "dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999" share link here
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> cryptodan_mobile: weq told us his wifi driver didnt work by default, hence why the own compile
[17:13] <weq> https://termbin.com/zpq1
[17:13] <lotuspsychje> im also curious why
[17:14] <weq> there is no wifi adapter available if I do ipconfig -a without compiling the driver then modprobing it.
[17:14] <foo> Is there a way to use "mail" command in linux ubuntu with mailgun? I just did apt-get install mailutils... and realized it installed postfix + mysql common ... plus a bunch of stuff I probably don't want... I some random stuff on my system uses mail command but everything is routed through mailgun.
[17:15] <weq> as far as you guys is this adapter natively supported?
[17:17] <weq> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zXMKrhQ76B/ in that paste I'm curious if I'm supposed to use a different device than the one marked as dead. If I compare strings towards what is dmesg I can see the "same" information regarding usb and 1-5 at line 98. If that is really the device.
[17:18] <weq> cause that seems to be the same scenario as this https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=150087
[17:18] <lotuspsychje> mt7662u_sta: version magic '4.15.0-29-generic SMP mod_unload ' should be '4.15.0-43-generic SMP mod_unload
[17:18] <cryptodan_mobile> weq: is secure boot enabled
[17:18] <weq> no.
[17:19] <weq> it is old hw so no secure boot
[17:20] <lotuspsychje> could it be wrongly compiled weq ?
[17:20] <weq> lotuspsychje: that might be due it had an older version prior, I had to make clean && make && make install this morning just to get the adapter back. probably due to an update.
[17:20] <weq> lotuspsychje: it could, but I'm out of my league here.
[17:21] <weq> I have not enough experience or knowledge on this topic to claim one or the other here.
[17:22] <lotuspsychje> weq: well the best way of debugging things on ubuntu, is to keep as much as vanilla possible, perhaps see why the netgear driver doesnt load by default first?
[17:24] <weq> any simple method of removing the driver I compiled to start from there? if that helps with the process of you getting a better grasp of the situation.
[17:24] <weq> or would you prefere that I just start from scratch?
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> yeah i would go from scratch
[17:25] <weq> ok reinstalling now
[17:25] <cryptodan_mobile> Weq [ 325.095355] ModemManager[772]: segfault at 0 ip 000055c5b3009659 sp 00007fffba8ebb20 error 4 in ModemManager[55c5b2fce000+123000]
[17:26] <weq> that is greek to me... :-/
[17:26] <cryptodan_mobile> So that maybe why it's not working that happened after the driver loaded
[17:28] <weq> so reinstall, apt update&&apt upgrade anything else I should do before we try a more structured method of doing this?
[17:29] <lotuspsychje> weq: always keep system up to date is always a good idea :p
[17:29] <weq> that is my intentions :P
[17:29] <cryptodan_mobile> Try using ubuntu 18.04
[17:29] <weq> cryptodan_mobile: desktop you mean?
[17:30] <cryptodan_mobile> Yeah
[17:31] <weq> soon done reinstalling so will give that ago if there is "logical" reasoning to this after this. Had a crapton of troubles trying to even make the boot usb for some reason. Rufus didn't want to make the usb correct so had to a use a different linux laptop I had lying around to even make the usb to get a stick with no defects.
[17:43] <weq> ok soon done updating. no wifi card visible in ifconfig -a
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> weq: check with sudo lshw -C network
[17:44] <weq> only the ethernet adapter there.
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> weq: allright, then we need your full syslog after install, boot
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> lets c what happens there
[17:44] <weq> after a clean boot?
[17:44] <lotuspsychje> weq: make sure system up to date to kernel -43 also ok
[17:45] <weq> yeah will finish apt until it is completly done, reboot then pastebin the entire syslog
[17:45] <lotuspsychje> great
[17:52] <weq> do pastebinit filter syslog by default or something?
[17:53] <weq> cat /var/log/syslog | nc termbin.com 9999 -> http://termbin.com/ju8w
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> weq: something badly wrong with ureadahead there
[17:56] <weq> what does that mean?
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> big error list
[17:56] <lotuspsychje> not sure why it does that
[17:59] <Checkmate> Hey its possible to get https to my vps ip ?
[18:00] <Checkmate> I've followed some steps on google but nothing happen !!
[18:00] <weq> lotuspsychje: but should that have any impact on the issue? As far as I can understand ureadahead is only there to put config in cache basically?
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> weq: well the errors list so far, i didnt find why your netgear didnt load, not related to our issue no
[18:01] <weq> hmmm it even cut of the paste since there were so many messages.
[18:02] <TJ-> weq: I'm back; just looked at the dmesg; the kernel you're using is v4.15. Instead of trying to build the kernel module out-of-tree why not try an Ubuntu Mainline build of either v4.19 or v4.20, which both have that module
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> ah good idea TJ-
[18:03] <weq> tail -f /var/log/syslog -n 500 | nc termbin.com 9999 -> https://termbin.com/7qie
[18:03] <TJ-> grep -n '0846.*9053' /lib/modules/*/module*
[18:03] <TJ-> /lib/modules/4.19.0-041900-lowlatency/modules.alias:9769:alias usb:v0846p9053d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*in* mt76x2u
[18:03] <TJ-> /lib/modules/4.20.0-042000rc4-lowlatency/modules.alias:9796:alias usb:v0846p9053d*dc*dsc*dp*ic*isc*ip*in* mt76x2u
[18:03] <TJ-> !mainline | weq
[18:03] <weq> do-release-upgrade and go to 18.10 ?
[18:03] <weq> is that what you want me to try?
[18:04] <TJ-> weq: I have a script to automate dowload/install of Ubuntu mainline kernels  http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/wget_kernel_mainline.sh
[18:04] <TJ-> weq: no, don't change the installed release, just install a recent mainline kernel :)
[18:04] <weq> TJ-: just to inform you, we reinstalled now are running a clean 18.04 fully patched with no 3rd party driver atm.
[18:04] <weq> so run your script and presto?
[18:05] <TJ-> weq: by default the script will fetch/install the latest build, which might be a release-candidate. You also need to add the Ubuntu kernel team's GPG public key to the system keyring
[18:06] <weq> I will be prompted for that won't I? after wget script && ./ script ?
[18:06] <TJ-> weq: download the script, make it executable ("chmod +x wget_kernel_mainline.sh") then do "wget_kernel_mainline.sh -l" to fetch and display the list of versions
[18:06] <TJ-> weq: I recommend doing this in $HOME/Downloads/ since it'll create a sub-dir ./kernels/ to download into
[18:07] <weq> root@zulu:~# ./wget_kernel_mainline.sh -l | pastebinit
[18:07] <weq> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pb5Mg3wKwx/
[18:07] <TJ-> weq: Linus is due to release v4.20 before xmas day so it's OK to fetch the latest v4.20-rc7
[18:08] <TJ-> weq: OK, now do "wget_kernel_mainline.sh" and it'll fetch v4.20-rc7
[18:08] <weq> fetching now
[18:09] <TJ-> weq: as I said you'll get a warning/error about not being able to verify the signature so you'll need to add that key to your sysytem keyring - the script tells you how :)
[18:09] <TJ-> (or should!)
[18:09] <weq> does the script also do some dpkg -i here?
[18:10] <TJ-> weq: yes, it does everything
[18:11] <weq> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7kHxKmwJbF/ so... apt install gpg or something? what package am I missing?
[18:11] <weq> gnupg2?
[18:12] <TJ-> weq: eerrrrr you've found a bug! it should have reported the failed key. is gnupg (gpg2) installed on that system?
[18:12] <weq> nope clean install
[18:12] <weq> so install gnupg2 the rerun the script ?
[18:13] <weq> just to not frack anything up I'd rather do this step by step.
[18:13] <TJ-> weq: yes, you can rerun the script, it won't upset it and it won't re-download anything it has already fetched
[18:14] <weq> yes to install gnupg2 right?
[18:14] <TJ-> weq: yes, although it should be installed to support apt-key
[18:15] <weq> and then apt-key and the RSA key right?
[18:15] <weq> since that also fails
[18:17] <TJ-> weq: this is the key you need: http://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x0856F197B892ACEA
[18:17] <weq> ok key installed and it is unpacking the deb files now.
[18:17] <TJ-> nice one :)
[18:17] <TJ-> so the script did tell you the key ID finally?
[18:17] <TJ-> I'd best add some functionality to ensure gpg is available and working!
[18:19] <weq> wth?... https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5TyVN42HcJ/
[18:20] <weq> I think there might be some fs issues here. I see all of the suddenly it has remounted as RO.
[18:20] <TJ-> weq: looks like the storage device/file-system went read-only in the middle of operations
[18:21] <TJ-> weq: check "dmesg | tail -n 50"
[18:21] <weq> fsck /dev/sda2 -y now, rebooting
[18:21] <weq> it happened last time I rebooted also,
[18:21] <weq> err reinstalled.
[18:21] <TJ-> weq: better check the SMART log if the device has one, using smartmon-tools smartctl tool
[18:22] <TJ-> weq: I have to go to dinner now, hopefully you can sort that issue out
[18:22] <weq> would be wierd if there is any physical issues on the drive as it is brand spanking new but we'll see.
[18:24] <weq> ok TJ-, script also done now and rebooting to boot into the 4.20 kernel.
[18:29] <weq> ok we are now on 4.20.0-042000rc7-generic, syslog is as long as the chinese wall because of the unknown ureadahead error but I can upload it in it's entirety to a server if needed.
[18:30] <weq> lshw -C network still only reveals the ethernet card and no usb card. lsusb still shows that the realtek card is there.
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> weq: that dongle is kinda old?
[18:33] <weq> made 4 years ago or so.
[18:34] <weq> the father in-law do have a linksys wifi pci adapter here as well which is even older but I sorta want to avoid trying that it is 11mbps only.
[18:34] <lotuspsychje> weq: can we see your new syslog on the 4.20?
[18:36] <weq> ofc I'm crap at sed so able to help me filter away the crap from ureadahead so that you get only the valuable parts instead of half of the syslog ?
[18:38] <weq> hmmm I've lost internet on that machine now all of the sudden
[18:39] <weq> there restarted systemd.networkd.service
[18:43] <TJ-> weq: I'm beginning to suspect many of the issues on that system are due to a broken disk drive
[18:44] <TJ-> weq: the earlier segfault in ModemManager for example, and the other issues
[18:44] <weq> installing smartmontools now
[18:47] <weq> smartctl -a /dev/sda ?
[18:47] <weq> is that suffient?
[18:47] <TJ-> weq: yes
[18:48] <weq> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QYk8hzTfKz/
[18:48] <weq> overall passed
[18:50] <TJ-> weq: so the next suspect is the RAM modules, because there's something not right causing the I/O problems
[18:51] <TJ-> weq: but referring back to v4.20 and the WiFi module, we need to see the kernel boot log to get any sense of what went wrong
[18:51] <weq> how can I share that properly?
[18:52] <weq> given that we have thousands of ureadahead ignored relative path messages in syslog.
[18:54] <weq> cat /var/log/syslog | sed -i 'zulu ureadahead[378]' > full_syslog.log or something ?
[18:54] <weq> I'm really crappy at regex and sed
[18:55] <TJ-> weq: "sudo apt install pastebinit" then "journalctl -b | grep -v ureadahead | pastebinit"
[18:55] <weq> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/3SSPNPWDqQ/
[18:57] <weq> I see it at line 751
[18:57] <TJ-> line 923 "mt76x2u: probe of 1-5:1.0 failed with error -2"
[18:59] <TJ-> weq: lets see if it needs firmware, although that wouldn't result in this error -2: "modinfo mt76x2u" and see which firmware files it lists, then check if they're in /lib/firmware/ - if not, we possibly need to grab/extract them from the mediatek source package
[18:59] <weq> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cXMTvw54g3/
[19:00] <weq> no mediatek in /lib/firmware
[19:00] <TJ-> -2 == -ENOENT which isn't very revealing
[19:01] <weq> root@zulu:~# ls /lib/firmware/ | grep mediatek
[19:01] <weq> no results
[19:01] <TJ-> weq: where did you get the original mediatek source package from? do you still have it so we can extract the firmware files from it?
[19:02] <weq> what source package? you mean the 3rd party driver I found prior to reinstalling?
[19:02] <weq> as of now this what we done, clean install, patch OS, upgrade to 4.20, install smart tools
[19:02] <TJ-> weq: yes
[19:03] <weq> https://github.com/kaduke/Netgear-A6210 this was the repo I downloaded in the previous install
[19:04] <weq> and then compiled & installed so I could see the wifi networks with iwlist
[19:04] <weq> git clone repo, make, make install, modprobe, iwlist wlan0 scan showed the wifi in the previous install. Haven't done anything like that in this install yet.
[19:05] <weq> only what you've suggested.
[19:05] <weq> thanks again for being so patient and willing to lend me your experience.
[19:05] <TJ-> weq: they're in the latest linux-firmware repo: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git/tree/mediatek
[19:06] <TJ-> weq: you can fetch the 2 you need; you'll need to create the directory for them, as in "sudo mkdir /lib/firmware/mediatek" first
[19:06] <weq> can I just wget them raw or clone the repo and copy them into /lib/firmware?
[19:06] <weq> ok
[19:06] <TJ-> weq: yes, you can fetch them with wget
[19:06] <weq> all of them ?
[19:07] <TJ-> weq: you only need the 2 that the modinfo command listed
[19:07] <weq> ah k
[19:07] <weq> 7662 then
[19:07] <TJ-> weq: those of them "mt7662u*"
[19:08] <weq> root@zulu:/lib/firmware/mediatek# ls
[19:08] <weq> mt7662u.bin  mt7662u_rom_patch.bin
[19:08] <TJ-> weq: then check if the module is still loaded with "lsmod | grep mt76" - if no result, then try "sudo modprobe mt76z2u" then recheck kernel log with "dmesg | tail"
[19:08] <TJ-> oops, typo
[19:08] <TJ-> weq:  "sudo modprobe mt76x2u" then recheck kernel log with "dmesg | tail"
[19:09] <weq> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/F2CX5Nft8p/ no idea what I'm looking at there if it is correct or not. Does it automatially load files that just pop in?
[19:10] <TJ-> weq: it's loaded so we need to unload it first; "sudo modprobe -r mt76x2u"
[19:10] <weq> then modprobe mt76x2u to reload it right?
[19:10] <TJ-> yes
[19:11] <TJ-> and lets hope that -2 error was due to missing firmware, and now it gets further
[19:11] <weq> another command another error
[19:11] <weq> -5 now
[19:11] <weq> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/8QGdtdnR2Z/
[19:11] <TJ-> That's -EIO
[19:12] <weq> hmm I was a bit quick -71 also dunno what makes more sense for you.
[19:12] <TJ-> weq: LoL "mt76x2u 1-5:1.0: ROM patch build: <!DOCTYPE html>" that's your fault !!! :D
[19:12] <TJ-> your wget command hasn't fetched a raw firmware file it has fetched an HTML document :D
[19:12] <weq> how? :P I just did wget after copying the file.
[19:13] <weq> lol I see it :P
[19:13] <TJ-> weq: presumably the link you gave wget doesn't fetch the raw file but an HTML overview
[19:13] <weq> yeah I'll fix that quick and modprobe -r and modprobe it once more
[19:13] <TJ-> You need the "plain" links
[19:14] <TJ-> Thank goodness it showed the file header in the log else we'd not have realised
[19:14] <weq> sorry, not used to git.kernel.org compared to github etc.
[19:15] <weq> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/D8XgpYpkP2/ there
[19:15] <weq> modprobe -r && modprobe done
[19:16] <TJ-> Try removing and re-inserting the USB device itself
[19:16] <weq> ok
[19:16] <TJ-> it may be confused with everything we've done to it :D
[19:16] <weq> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/yPbZn64QBP/ after unplug and insert
[19:17] <TJ-> wooo hooo, you have a device wlxc0ffd4b2f709
[19:17] <TJ-> try "iwconfig"
[19:18] <TJ-> you might want to "sudo apt install wireless-tools" for additional bits and pieces for diagnosis
[19:18] <TJ-> then you can do things like "sudo iwlist scan" to see if it can detect any APs
[19:20] <weq> gotta go afk here couple of mins so please stay with me when I return
[19:21] <TJ-> weq: I suspect all you need now is put that device name in the netplan config :)
[20:00] <weq> there done opening presentens today. lets give this ago.
[20:01] <TJ-> You're early!
[20:04] <weq> this familiy does it on the 23rd and the 24th cause they are such a big familiy at the 24th so it would take the entire night otherwise.
[20:04] <weq> so mostly today and some minors tomorrow.
[20:10] <weq> but no go it looks like TJ-...
[20:12] <weq> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/w7kTkGsVgd/
[20:13] <weq> it can see the wifi still and heck of alot more info with iwlist scan now than before.
[20:14] <weq> but it won't pair it seems
[20:14] <TJ-> weq: OK, but you're making progress. So now we look at the wpa log
[20:14] <weq> networkctl says almost the same as before. setup = configuring
[20:14] <weq> indeed
[20:15] <weq> where is the wpa log?
[20:15] <TJ-> weq: something like " journalctl --u<EMAIL_ADDRESS>"
[20:16] <weq> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qKQG8RDxWs/ such a great error
[20:17] <TJ-> weq: so maybe that starts the main wpa_supplicant.service? is there a log for that?
[20:18] <TJ-> weq: you could do "journalctl -n 50"
[20:18] <weq> yeah it is complaing about missing /sbin/wpa_supplicant
[20:18] <weq> so I guess I need that package also
[20:19] <TJ-> hahah yes well it would help :DD
[20:19] <weq> Dec 23 21:09:34 zulu systemd[4528]<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Failed to execute command: No such file or directory
[20:19] <weq> Dec 23 21:09:34 zulu systemd[4528]<EMAIL_ADDRESS>Failed at step EXEC spawning /sbin/wpa_supplicant: No such file or directory
[20:19] <TJ-> weq: at least its an easy fix
[20:19] <weq> crossing my fingers now.
[20:21] <weq> hmm that killed my ssh connection also, gotta check the host physically then. probably restarted networkd or something
[20:22] <weq> nah even worse. kernel panic..
[20:23] <TJ-> I've not seem many pain-free experiences with USB 802.1ac devices
[20:28] <weq> it is working.. it seems... going to unplug the ethernet and just try a reboot to confirm
[20:28] <weq> we are connected and have gotten an ip atleast.
[20:28] <TJ-> :)
[20:29] <weq> I'm at a loss for words how grateful I am for your patience to you all.
[20:29] <weq> No freakin way I'd be able to do this without for sure.
[20:30] <TJ-> weq: in these kind of hardware/driver cases I always recommend checking if the latest mainline kernel can help
[20:31] <weq> I have rather little experience with hardware and drivers in linux.
[20:32] <weq> hmm seems like we aren't there yet though :P
[20:33] <weq> we have IP but I'm unable to ping the gw.
[20:34] <TJ-> weq: can the gatweay ping the PC?
[20:34] <weq> in arp I can see the gw ip and mac.
[20:34] <TJ-> any firewall rules on either?
[20:35] <weq> not able to ping from the router, but my laptop can't ping the linux box
[20:35] <TJ-> If the PC has obtained an address using DHCP then you know they can talk
[20:35] <weq> yeah but not sure what is happening exactly here now.
[20:35] <weq> ifconfig doesn't report any rx or tx errors either.
[20:36] <TJ-> go back to the logs
[20:36] <TJ-> "journalctl -n 50" -- any recent clues?
[20:36] <weq> nope.
[20:37] <weq> resolved complains about using degraded feature set but I'm pinging ip's not any dns names.
[20:37] <TJ-> plug in the cable, install tcpdump, monitor the wifi link
[20:37] <TJ-> weq: that warning is pretty standard
[20:44] <weq> yeah figured as much
[20:52] <weq> hmmm any suggestion to parameter on tcpdump? tcpdump -i interface -vv -w tcpdump.pcap or something?
[20:53] <weq> with those params it does capture some data atleast
[20:53] <TJ-> weq: "sudo tcpdump -ni wlxc0ffd4b2f709" is enough
[20:54] <TJ-> weq: the purpose is to confirm there are packets received and sent
[20:55] <weq> there is content yeah, can see some traffic like the apple tv in the household etc.
[20:55] <weq> started a ping from the box to the gw as well
[20:55] <TJ-> weq: are those multicast packets then?
[20:56] <weq> 60 packages received by filter 0 dropped by kernel
[20:56] <weq> yeah apple devices are noisy that way
[20:56] <TJ-> weq: has the PC got a valid route? "ip route show"
[20:57] <weq> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/ZbRG5M6Fwc/ the tcpdump
[20:58] <weq> yeah it has configure <IP_ADDRESS> as default for wifi device
[20:58] <weq> but a gw shouldn't be needed for lan?
[20:58] <TJ-> what is the IP address on the PC?
[20:58] <weq> 205
[20:59] <TJ-> OK, so I see successful ping echo/responses there
[20:59] <weq> wow yeah there are some
[20:59] <weq> there is huge package loss
[21:00] <weq> 98% package loss infact in the other tty I started a ping
[21:00] <weq> out of 261 transmitted only 5 were sucessfull.
[21:00] <weq> poor implementation of the driver then? cause the physical location and coverage should not be a issue
[21:01] <weq> I'm sitting with my win laptop at the same location without any issues nor loss.
[21:01] <TJ-> yeah; I read that there is an issue when the device scans but I thought that was effectvely solved by now
[21:02] <TJ-> I'm afraid you've managed to pick a device where the manufacturer doesn't care about Linux
[21:02] <weq> not a choice really :P
[21:03] <weq> father in-law's available choice of viable HW for a potentional wifi lab :P
[21:03] <weq> well then I'm going to call it for this particular nic tbh.
[21:04] <weq> so if he wants a wifi lab based solely on a ubuntu that nic is a no go.
[21:04] <TJ-> You've done everything you can with it. It's a problem for any Linux device
[21:04] <weq> for productivty I'd think I'd rather recommend him sticking to win10 on this machine and vbox for experimenting
[21:05] <weq> you've done everything :P I'm just a puppet with the idea in this.
[21:05] <TJ-> there are a few manufacturers known for no/terrible support for Linux
[21:05] <TJ-> I'd just use an 802.11n device, that works reliably
[21:05] <weq> the linksys device he has might have better success but 11mbps only :|
[21:05] <TJ-> 802.11an even
[21:05] <weq> might as well use sneakernet then.
[21:13] <weq> thanks again for all the help and assistance. I learned a ton atleast. Thanks TJ- cryptodan_mobile and lotuspsychje.
[23:37] <Checkmate> I've question do i can get https with green bar on a vps ip address ?
[23:38] <Checkmate> i always got message with Your connection is not private
[23:41] <mybalzitch> letsencrypt would probably be the simplest solution
[23:44] <cryptodan_mobile> Checkmate: you are using a self signed cert
[23:50] <Checkmate> mybalzitch yeah for domains not ips :v


[18:48] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sosreport (hirsute-proposed/main) [4.1-1ubuntu1.2 => 4.2-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[20:55] <Bashing-om> UWN: Issue706 up for review and final edits: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue706 :D
[20:58] <ogra> 👍


[04:43] <Unit193> Sorry about my nighyly visit, but some notes !debfoster dead - alsa-source dead - bzr change to http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.dev/en/mini-tutorial/index.html ? - cron has 404 - "latest kde" is old - synaptic will be changed for Oneiric, no?
[04:43] <rww> those are all factoids?
[04:43] <Unit193> Yes, after the dash
[04:43] <rww> k, let's take a look...
[04:43] <rww> !debfoster
[04:44] <rww> !-debfoster
[04:44] <rww> okay yeah, let's just go ahead and assume someone else is reading this
[04:44] <rww> !forget alsa-source
[04:45] <Unit193> Well, it has a deadlink
[04:45] <rww> !forget alsa-source
[04:45] <rww> Unit193: yeah, alsa-source was way old
[04:45]  * rww moves on to bzr
[04:47] <rww> !bzr =~ s%http.*Bzr%http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.dev/en/mini-tutorial/%
[04:49] <rww> !cron =~ s/CronHowto.*$/CronHowto/
[04:49] <rww> !forget latest kde
[04:51] <rww> Unit193: We don't appear to have a factoid for Software Center at all. Any suggestions?
[04:52] <rww> or hrm, I wonder if there's a factoid with a link to the wikipage about installing packages we could use instead
[04:52] <Unit193> rww: I could try, but I'm personally not fond of it.
[04:52] <rww> ah, yeah. me either ;)
[04:53] <rww> I'll leave it for now and see if I can find a GNOMEy person to do some refreshers, it's a bigger issue than just !synaptic
[04:53] <Unit193> !packages | This work, or you want me to make something up?
[05:01] <Unit193> Thanks for taking a look and I should be done with spamming you every night :P (Went through most, but I'm sure I missed a few still)
[05:01] <rww> Unit193: don't worry about it, it's good someone takes a look at this stuff :)
[05:02] <rww> (first thing I did when getting ubottu access was make huge numbers of edits ;)
[19:28] <Mkaysi|E63> Someone should check host of ubot4. It seems to be affected by old security vulnerability in supybot (fixed in forks)
[19:29] <Mkaysi|E63> That vulnerability causes them to ping timeout and take infinite amount of CPU and all supybots from Ubuntu repositories are affected
[19:30] <pleia2> argh, you're right
[19:30] <pleia2> jpds: I need to kill ubot4, as it's eating all my cpu again
[19:30] <rww> huh, is that what took ubottu out yesterday?
[19:30] <Mkaysi|E63> https://github.com/ProgVal/Limnoria/issues/157 for more information
[19:31] <pleia2> aha, and there's my nagios alert
[19:31] <Mkaysi|E63> temporary fix without installing fork: @defaultcapability remove misc.last
[19:31] <Pici> Mkaysi|E63: are the other ubots also vulnerable?
[19:32] <Pici> Mkaysi|E63: Or rather, are the other versions of supybot in the ubuntu repositories vulnerable?
[19:32] <Mkaysi|E63> All stock supybots from ubuntu repos or from supybot git repo, I think
[19:32] <Mkaysi|E63> All of them, I think
[19:32] <Mkaysi|E63> I know only that forks, gribble and Limnoria have fixed it
[19:32] <pleia2> thanks Mkaysi|E63
[19:33] <Mkaysi|E63> You're welcome, remove that defaultcapability as soon as possiblr
[19:33] <Mkaysi|E63> *possible
[19:33] <Pici> thanks!
[19:34] <Mkaysi|E63> By the way, ubot4/logs/messages.log should be able to tell you who called the crashing command
[21:54] <m4v> ubottu isn't really vulnerable, since only registered users can use supybot's commands, defaultignore is on.
[21:54] <m4v> bleah
[21:55] <genii-around> Hehe
[21:55] <Mkaysi|E63> Sync the database to ubottu.com now :)
[21:55] <m4v> !forget isn't really vulnerable, since only registered users can use supybot's commands, defaultignore
[21:56] <Mkaysi|E63> Doesn't it still stay in the database?
[21:56] <m4v> yep
[21:59] <m4v> Mkaysi|E63: in any case, the bot team is aware of supybot being full of fail. Sometime we will have to either fork it ourselves or use one of the forks.
[22:18]  * Mkaysi|E63 recommends Limnoria


[08:26] <triptec> in ubuntu, is it possible to detect 2 gestures at the same time?
[08:26] <Satoris> Yes.
[08:27] <triptec> or is it like windows where one have to release a gesture before another one can begin
[08:27] <triptec> os
[08:27] <triptec> oh*
[08:27] <triptec> I'm about to make a multitouch flash application will that work u think?
[08:27] <triptec> on ubuntu?
[08:30] <Satoris> Flash as in Adobe Flash?
[08:30] <triptec> yeah
[08:30] <Satoris> Probably not.
[08:30] <triptec> oh
[08:31] <triptec> well, I guess I didn't really think so but I was more hoping
[14:11] <cnd> triptec, you can make flash apps, but they don't have any multitouch support in ubuntu
[14:11] <cnd> being closed source and all, we don't have any way of fixing that
[14:12] <cnd> especially since they've abandoned flash on Linux anyway
[14:15] <dandrader> cnd, flash is abandoned on Linux!? oh, didn't know that..
[14:15] <cnd> dandrader, yeah
[14:16] <cnd> adobe has stopped development
[14:16] <cnd> they have committed to a few years of security fixes
[14:16] <cnd> but that's it
[14:16] <dandrader> when was that announced?
[14:16] <cnd> a couple months ago
[14:16] <dandrader> ok..
[14:16] <Satoris> They are providing it with Chrome, though.
[14:16] <cnd> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/adobe-abandons-linux/10418
[14:17] <dandrader> hopefully html5 replaces all current flash use cases overtime
[14:17] <cnd> dandrader, bregma, tvoss, Satoris: standups :)
[14:17] <dandrader> as for my status report: checking how nux is integrated with compiz in unity. putting geis events into nux
[14:17] <Satoris> In addition to Arsenal I have been working on my other team. In fact, I'm not sure if I should even be here any more.
[14:18] <cnd> I got some X patches off my plate, so I need to do some small revisions to the uTouch article and then some more research
[14:18] <tvoss> sprint organization, Kanban fun
[14:18] <cnd> Satoris, if you have other work, then I think it's ok if you don't keep coming to this meeting
[14:18] <cnd> it probably won't last much beyond this week anyway
[14:18] <cnd> Satoris, just make sure to follow up and get the arsenal stuff done
[14:19] <cnd> Satoris, where does that stand?
[14:19] <Satoris> I have a merge request going.
[14:19] <cnd> ok
[14:19] <Satoris> Then I need to get it run on the production machines.
[14:20] <bregma> it's a stat holiday here today
[14:20] <cnd> bregma, ok, please leave then :)
[14:20] <cnd> we don't want your kind round here no more
[14:20] <bregma> I just did, not I'm back again
[14:20] <cnd> until tomorrow :)
[14:20] <bregma> I don;t seem to have a login to the kanban -- should I, or do I need to go to someone?
[14:21] <Satoris> Getting back to knee deep C++ was an interesting change. All those static hoops you have to leap through and all.
[14:22] <cnd> tvoss, bregma's comment ^^
[14:22] <tvoss> bregma, just don't ask ;)
[14:29] <dandrader> cnd, is there any problem in having multiple subscriptions with the very same parameters/filters?
[14:30] <cnd> dandrader, I don't think so
[14:30] <dandrader> cool
[14:37] <dandrader> I was wondering the other day, what's the use case for gesture classes that dynamically appear, change and go away?
[14:39] <bregma> that should only happen when the mythical programmable recognizer comes into being
[14:40] <dandrader> hmm
[14:44] <cnd> dandrader, we had some interesting ideas way back that never materialized
[14:44] <cnd> bregma created geis in a way that provided for those ideas
[14:44] <cnd> but some areas look like holes or odd interfaces without them


[00:48] <mateo> Hallo
[03:01] <znfrazier> so i need help peeps haha is this the help chan?
[03:02] <twb> znfrazier: that rather depends what you want help *with*.
[03:03] <davidjr621> #r2gb
[03:03] <twb> Certainly this isn't the "English as a second language" channel.
[03:03] <znfrazier> im trying to get my ftp server up and running but i didn't know which irc chan to go to lol
[03:03] <twb> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[03:05] <znfrazier> nice then what is the next best thing?
[03:05] <twb> Read-only anonymous access, or read-write authenticated access?
[03:07] <znfrazier> how would you do the read-write with no anonymous access?
[03:07] <twb> sftp
[03:07] <twb> "authenticated" means "no anonymous"
[03:08] <znfrazier> hmm i see nice. im still learning all this crap
[03:08] <znfrazier> i just want my main comp to have everything on it and allow my father and brothers plus college buddies to have access to it
[03:08] <znfrazier> so sftp is the way to go
[03:10] <znfrazier> what is the diff between sftp and ftp?
[03:11] <znfrazier> ssh?
[03:11] <twb> While it looks similar to the user, the underlying implementation is totally different -- much cleaner, and the security layer is built on top of SSH, which is widely used, well-understood and unlikely to be compromised (if used properly)
[03:11] <znfrazier> i see
[03:11] <znfrazier> so then we go to how to access remotely. like if my dad and bro want to get on.
[03:11] <znfrazier> i've tried doing port forwarding but its driving me crazy
[03:12] <twb> If SSH is working, then SFTP will be working (unless you specifically disable SFTP).
[03:12] <jmarsden> znfrazier: http://portforward.com/
[03:13] <twb> If you are behind a NAT, then you need to ensure that traffic to tcp/22 is DNATted to your SSH server.
[03:13] <twb> The RIGHT solution to is to use IPv6 instead of NAT, but that's probably beyond your capabilities right now.
[03:14] <znfrazier> lol
[03:14] <twb> jmarsden: cute
[03:14] <znfrazier> k well i have a vizio router and it isn't on portforward.com
[03:14] <znfrazier> i had access to just my network but when i went to my buddies comp it wouldn't let me access it
[03:15] <jmarsden> znfrazier: Read the portforwarding guide for any well known router and use it as a starting point.  Your "vizio" router is likely to have more or less similar screens with more or less similar names and concepts in them.
[03:16] <twb> jmarsden: can't get past the fpadvert.html page in w3m :-(
[03:16] <jmarsden> znfrazier: If you need detailed help with setting up your router, you could try asking in ##networking.
[03:17] <znfrazier> thanks for the help
[03:17] <jmarsden> twb: Maybe try links2 -g    instead?  Most folks who need it will use IE or FF, anyone using w3m probably doesn't need the help it offers anyway :)
[03:18] <twb> I was just bitching
[03:43] <lifesf> hi, i have just installed the os; i would like to configure it for wifi; it does not require huge amounts of data to be pulled at a time. I cannot find any answers on this so far on the internet
[03:44] <lifesf> any help would be truly awesome :)
[03:55] <jmarsden> lifesf: There is a really old blog article about doing this which, if you can re-interpret it for 2011, might help somewhat, at least as a pointer to the general principles: http://modelr.wordpress.com/2009/06/01/how-to-get-wireless-network-on-ubuntu-server/
[03:56] <lifesf> i will surely check this out right away; i am not quite the high tech on this tho; quite a noob to be honest
[03:58] <lifesf> scanning quickly through the page,.. using natty, i should just follow this step by step right?  and concerning the part where is asks to convert it to hex...
[03:59] <lifesf> i changed my wireless password recently because i was having difficulty getting a different version of ubuntu on a diff machine to actually get the passphrase
[04:00] <lifesf> please allow me a few minutes to temporarily tranfer router in here, i will mention when back for your reply!
[04:06] <lifesf> I am back now
[04:10] <twb> jmarsden: does that use wpa_supplicant alone?
[04:10] <twb> Oh, no, that's a horrible ndiswrapper thing
[04:10] <jmarsden> twb: Is there a more official doc for adding wireless stuff to Ubuntu Server somewhere?
[04:10] <twb> lifesf: if you have a headless server and want it to associate with a known WPA AP using symmetric crypto ("pre-shared key"), you can simply use wpa_supplicant.
[04:11] <twb> jmarsden: the documentation is within /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant itself
[04:11] <twb> jmarsden: unfortunately it's not very step-by-step
[04:11] <lifesf> well, all i really want to do is connect a plain lamp server on a home wireless
[04:12] <jmarsden> twb: OK... a wiki page that pops up in google searches and was somewhat straightforward might be good... (maybe I'll write it one day, but I have a lot of other stuff I'd liek to get around to...)
[04:12] <twb> http://paste.debian.net/116698/ <-- interfaces(5)
[04:12] <lifesf> it wont be needing much data transfer and makes it easier to put it anywhere and still use it to learn
[04:13] <twb> http://paste.debian.net/116699/ <-- /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[04:13] <twb> lifesf: those two files should suffice for any WPA2-PSK or WPA-PSK
[04:14] <twb> jmarsden: feel free to write it :P
[04:14] <jmarsden> twb: Oh, that looks straightforward, thanks... copied for possible later conversion to a wiki page :)
[04:14] <lifesf> ok, so i go step by step on 98 and 99?
[04:14] <twb> jmarsden: to use WEP is longer wpa_supplicant.conf
[04:14] <twb> lifesf: I don't know about any "steps
[04:14] <lifesf> auto lo wlan0 isnt' a step?
[04:15] <jmarsden> lifesf: Those are text files to put on your machine :)
[04:16] <jmarsden> The first is /etc/network/interfaces and then second is /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[04:16] <lifesf> alright :)
[04:16] <lifesf> thnx alot :D
[04:16] <twb> lifesf: oh, you're seeing lines number in a pastebin?
[04:17] <lifesf> yeah, i am seeing 7 lines of code on the first page you gave me
[04:18] <lifesf> but when i even do ifconfig, the wlan0 doesn't show up :S
[04:21] <jmarsden> lifesf: Do you know what chip your wifi NIC uses?  And whether Ubuntu suppoorts it?
[04:22] <twb> http://paste.debian.net/116700/
[04:22] <lifesf> on a regular ubuntu desktop install it has always worked by default; it a 2yo hp machine
[04:22] <lifesf> 3yo sry
[04:22] <jmarsden> lifesf: That does not really answer my question, though :)
[04:23] <lifesf> no, I do not remember what chip driver usually has showed up normally :S
[04:24] <twb> jmarsden: FWIW I'm assuming an mac80211 driver
[04:24] <twb> jmarsden: I do not cover wifi NICs that require older/sillier drivers
[04:24] <jmarsden> lifesf: I don't really have the time to work through all that with you right now, I'm afraid... You can use sudo lspci -vv to fnd out more, probably.
[04:24] <twb> lifesf: pastebin the output of "ip a"
[04:28] <lifesf> http://paste.debian.net/116701/
[04:30] <lifesf> http://paste.debian.net/116702/
[04:30] <lifesf> first is the lspci -vv result, second is ip a
[04:31] <lifesf> and with ip a, i don't see my wlan0 which would normally appear with a desktop install
[04:31] <lifesf> if it gives the same results apprx as ifconfig
[04:35] <ejv> fellas, I have ubuntu-server and would like to load a light-weight gnome desktop environment. which package should I fetch that is the *most minimal*? thank you.
[04:36] <lifesf> the regular ubuntu desktop environment is ubuntu-desktop but otherwise you'll have to wait for a better reply from a tech as i am not one of them lolll
[04:38] <ejv> hehe
[04:38] <ejv> thanks
[04:40] <twb> lifesf: your wifi device is not visible to the system.
[04:40] <twb> lifesf: until that happens, there is no point trying to configure it
[04:40] <twb> ejv: there is no such thing as a "light-weight gnome desktop environment"
[04:40] <lifesf> that's odd :S if i install ubuntu desktop it shows,.. if i run a live cd of ubuntu and get info from there would that help?
[04:40] <twb> lifesf: I have no idea.
[04:41] <twb> lifesf: I only work with supported hardware, as a rule
[04:41] <lifesf> ok, i will load the desktop and try to find the driver running from there,.. from that i should be able to install straight off of apt-get right?
[04:42] <twb> lifesf: I have no idea.
[04:42] <twb> I don't use ubuntu desktops.  perhaps they install non-free software by default.
[04:42] <lifesf> hmm
[04:42] <lifesf> alright
[04:42] <lifesf> thnx
[04:43] <lifesf> i thought hp and ubuntu were associated tho,.. unless that was dell.. my memory is lagging i think lol
[04:43] <twb> That its not listed in lspci is suspcious, unless this is a USB dongle or something
[04:44] <lifesf> no
[04:44] <lifesf> it's a linksys N pci
[04:44] <twb> Even if you have no driver, a PCI card should still be visible in lspci
[04:44] <lifesf> i just remembered it's my card in there
[04:44] <lifesf> frick it's late
[04:44] <twb> That suggests that the card isn't properly seated or powered
[04:46] <lifesf> holy crap i apologise for this time waste figuring out the card; i never thought i budged the pc that much!!!!
[04:48] <lifesf> http://paste.debian.net/116705/        result from ip a
[04:48] <twb> OK, so it should just work with my last pastebin instructions
[04:49] <lifesf> http://paste.debian.net/116706/     lspci -vv
[04:50] <lifesf> ok,.. so that was the command lines you told me to insert in the document right?
[04:50] <lifesf> the .conf?
[04:50] <twb> 13:22 <twb> http://paste.debian.net/116700/
[04:51] <lifesf> i keep the " ?
[04:51] <lifesf> in ssid and psk?
[04:51] <twb> Yes
[04:51] <lifesf> cool :D
[04:55] <lifesf> will there be conflict if i do not comment out eth0?
[04:55] <twb> Only if eth0 is plugged in
[04:55] <twb> If both are connected and enabled they will fight over who is primary gateway
[04:56] <lifesf> ok :) thank you so much! i am trying to complete this as we're speaking :)
[04:57] <lifesf> ps nano isn't letting me do a forward slash..........
[04:59] <lifesf> found a workaround but that's not cool lol
[04:59] <twb> I wouldn't know about nano
[05:02] <lifesf> psk must be in hex right?
[05:02] <lifesf> it's wpa2
[05:03] <twb> lifesf: no
[05:03] <twb> WPA and WPA2 only differ in the underlying crypto algorithm (AES vs. some intermediary shit)
[05:04] <twb> The psk, at least in wpa_supplicant.conf, will be a string like psk="I like big bottoms"
[05:04] <lifesf> lmfao
[05:04] <lifesf> k
[05:04] <lifesf> now all is left is reboot i guess
[05:04] <lifesf> and see if it connects
[05:08] <lifesf> isn't connecting :S
[05:09] <twb> OK, then "sudo ifdown --force wlan0"
[05:10] <twb> Then "sudo wpa_supplicant -dwext -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant.conf" and look at the output
[05:10] <twb> Sorry, -Dwext
[05:12] <lifesf> firmware file not found:  b43/ucode11.fw
[05:12] <lifesf> and
[05:12] <lifesf> b43-open/ucode11.fw not found either
[05:13] <twb> Sounds like your hardware is not supported by Free drivers
[05:19] <lifesf> OMG I LOVE YOU TWB :D
[05:19] <lifesf> haha
[05:20] <lifesf> i just hooked up a dlink usb wireless adapter modified some of the things
[05:20] <lifesf> and i'm wAY connected :D
[05:21] <lifesf> only thing i'm curious about right now tho... is, since i just changed my wlan0 to wlan1 as both are still connected physically to the pc... to the interface i still left all of the rest as wlan0
[05:22] <lifesf> i am not exactly positive if they are getting them as sort of strings and should just leave it as it is or not
[05:22] <twb> If you're running wpa_supplicant by hand, then it won't be using interfaces(5)
[05:22] <twb> But nor will it be doing DHCP over the configured line
[05:23] <lifesf> well.. it's running the way you've told me in the pastebin; the only thing is that it still states wlan0-default etc
[05:24] <twb> lifesf: oh that part
[05:24] <twb> wlan0-default is an arbitrary string
[05:24] <lifesf> ok, i simply wasn't sure, i came to that logic thought when i noticed it worked so i wasn't sure if i should modify or not
[05:24] <twb> It's there so that you can have multiple APs, so for example if you take your server to work, and it has static networking, you can have wpa-roam with "iface home inet dhcp" and "iface work inet static"
[05:25] <twb> And it will pick them based on which AP it associates with
[05:25] <twb> THe ifupdown / interfaces(5) scripts are pretty old and stupid by modern standards.
[05:26] <twb> Someone ought to rearchitect them to use ip(8) and tc(8)
[05:27] <lifesf> so in that sence i'd have to make it switch from one string to the other?
[05:29] <lifesf> i think i'm gonna print your pastebin and stick it to the side of my pc and print out our conversation lol, i truly want to keep this on hand! I thank you very much for you help :D
[05:30] <twb> Whatever
[05:30] <lifesf> lol
[05:38] <Roxyhart0> hi there. somebody know about tool to be able to send sms from my ubuntu server?
[09:21] <xperia> hello to all. i have installed roundcube on my ubuntu server in /usr/share/roundcube and wat to use it from a domain that works in /var/www/mydomain/subdirectory
[09:22] <xperia> subdirectory is a symlink that point to /usr/share/roundcube now the problem is that i get allways this error message here => Unknown: Failed opening required '/var/www/mydomain/subdirectory/index.php' (include_path='.:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear') in Unknown on line 0
[09:23] <xperia> from what i have researched i need to use openbase_dir instruction somehow but i have this allready set for /var/www/mydomain
[09:23] <lynxman> xperia: you should go at the problem the other way around and you should add config to your apache config file on that domain as specified by the roundcube documentation instead of using soft links
[09:24] <xperia> ahhh i should use apache config well that is allready a great help need to look to find that part in the roundcube documentation. thank you a lot
[09:25] <lynxman> xperia: np :)
[09:56] <xperia> lynxman i am allready nearly to solve the problem with the help of your tip. have created this apache config here and it load fine. dont have anymore the error messages about php usr share and such stuff
[09:56] <xperia> http://pastebin.com/Sm3cWGNL
[09:57] <xperia> still something is bad as i get this error here allways
[09:57] <xperia> [Thu May 12 10:51:12 2011] [error] [client <IP_ADDRESS>] PHP Fatal error:  Unknown: Failed opening required '/usr/share/roundcube/index.php' (include_path='.') in Unknown on line 0
[10:07] <xperia> okay looks like i need the include path directive
[10:26] <RoAkSoAx> adam_g: ping
[10:30] <adam_g> RoAkSoAx: hi
[10:55] <xperia> okay could solve the problem with a other solution thanks a lot still for help
[12:19] <igjohn> hello ubuntu server , i need help with setting up my dedicated server , i have issues with NIC and IP addreses
[12:20] <_ruben> be more specific
[12:20] <igjohn> i have an ubuntu dedicated server , my dc asingned 8ip addrese , but i have access to only one
[12:22] <igjohn> i want to add the 7 ip addreses to the NIC
[12:24] <igjohn> can i get help from anyone please ?
[12:52] <RoyK> igjohn: do you want 8 addresses on the same NIC?
[12:58] <RoyK> igjohn: if so, just edit /etc/network/interfaces and at the end of the eth0 block, add a line like 'up ip addr add <IP_ADDRESS>/24 dev eth0'
[12:58] <RoyK> 24 being the bits in your netmask
[13:05] <RoAkSoAx>  19
[13:24] <iclebyte_work> if i rebuilt a slave name server, then obviously it has a new rndc.key file - how do I authorize this key on the master nameserver?
[14:14] <Pumpkin-> I've got a bond interface configured on Ubuntu, and it comes up fine with the config I've got in /etc/network/interfaces, but with the wrong netmask. http://clive.fibrecat.org/~dwg/files/bonding.txt is the contents of /etc/network/interfaces, but bond0 comes up as a /8
[14:14] <Pumpkin-> any ideas ?
[14:27] <ph8> hi all, i'm trying to configure my server to send snmp traps to our 'solarwinds' system - how can i define traps to send and conditions to send them in? Strangely there's hardly any docs on it!
[14:31] <joschi> ph8: grab the snmpd docs and get going ;)
[14:32] <joschi> ph8: some applications can also send snmp traps directly. it all depends on what your really want to do
[14:32] <mouseclone> what is the main difference between freeradius and radius-server packages?
[14:33] <ph8> i guess i'm just after disk space and load average joschi
[14:33] <ph8> but also things like when power is removed? :-o
[14:33] <joschi> ph8: in this case you're good with snmpd
[14:34] <joschi> ph8: when power is removed. either you'll get an event from your UPS or your UPS can generate a trap directly
[14:34] <Pumpkin-> mouseclone: radius-server is just a virtual package, which can be fufilled by a number of different radius servers (of which freeradius is one)
[14:35] <mouseclone> Pumpkin: so if I install radius-server, how will i know what server I would get?
[14:35] <Pumpkin-> try and install it, it will tell you what to do
[14:36] <mouseclone> seems because I install freeradius already that radius-server doesn't do anything
[14:40] <ph8> joschi:  I'm fighting a battle with windows guys
[14:40] <ph8> ah sorry i see i mean when one power is removed, on a two power system
[14:40] <ph8> so the system should send the trap
[15:01] <ph8> any idea how i add a host to the allowed hosts to contact snmp?
[15:01] <ph8> joschi:  thanks though, that fixed it - the 'trapsink' directive was what i needed
[15:09] <jeremyn> am i correct in understanding there is no standard tabbed terminal emulator/ssh client for windows?
[15:09] <jeremyn> only thing i can come up with is putty + one of a zillion dodgy add-ons
[15:09] <Dr_Jekyll> you are correct
[15:09] <Dr_Jekyll> maybe byobu/screen/tmux does what you want on the server side
[15:10] <jeremyn> screen is kinda-sorta but of course only works on one server
[15:10] <jeremyn> i cannot believe this is still an unsolved problem in 2011
[15:10] <Pici> jeremyn: I was trying to get terminator to work under Windows here, but didn't have any luck.  My cygwin install is a bit messy though.
[15:12]  * _ruben uses securecrt for tabbed ssh sessions
[15:14] <jeremyn> this is for my own personal use and it looks like the cheapest price is about $100, though, to be fair, securecrt does seem to be very popular
[15:16] <_ruben> on an average $workday i have about 6 windows with like 10 tabs each open ;)
[15:16] <_ruben> give or take a few windows and tabs :)
[15:17] <_ruben> right now i only got a single window with 13 tabs
[15:18] <jeremyn> i only have like two or three sessions open at a time but even fishing through that small number is very annoying
[15:18] <_ruben> for that ammount, the cost of securecrt is a bit overkill i guess :)
[15:19] <_ruben> really shame that there's no proper putty add-ons for it .. tried numerous, one more broken than the other
[15:20] <Pumpkin-> jeremyn: I know lots of people that use putty connection manager for that
[15:20] <Pumpkin-> but it has some annoying defaults, like CTRL-U for a new window, which I always use for deleting the current line
[15:20] <_ruben> stuff like that is actually one of the reasons i have my irssi in a putty window and not securecrt ;)
[15:21] <jeremyn> Pumpkin-: i heard about that, and yeah that it was buggy, and then their commonly given website http://puttycm.free.fr/cms/ gives some plain MySQL error. there's a sourceforge page but i dunno, it just seems kinda off. i know this is petty.
[15:22] <jeremyn> i used ubuntu on my laptops for a long time, i didn't realize GNOME terminal emulator was some kind of unique triumph
[15:23] <_ruben> i've been using konsole over remote-x for ages prior to getting $work to pay for securecrt ;)
[15:31] <aubre> I want to get all the packages I have installed on one server into a file I can use to install the exact same packages on another server - what's the best way to do that?
[15:34] <ry> humm
[15:34] <ry> there is a bot that has the command
[15:34] <ry> i dont know the syntax touse it, i'll try to find it
[15:36] <ry> aubre, .:ubottu:. To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate
[15:36] <aubre> ty
[15:37] <Pici> ry: ubottu is in this channel too
[15:37] <ry> Pici, i've never actually used him before
[15:37] <ry> i saved that months ago
[15:37] <ry> lol
[15:37] <ry> i remember seeing someone ask a similar question, and it was like #9745 on my "things to lookup" list
[15:38] <ry> quote an awesome bot though
[17:14] <jerrad> yo
[17:14] <GeorgeNada> quick question
[17:15] <GeorgeNada> i'm trying to install ubuntu server (11.4, and now 10.4) on my poweredge 6650, and the damn thing wont recognize the networking cards in the machine.
[17:15] <GeorgeNada> they are broadcom 5700 series
[17:18] <lifesf> hi, when setting a static ip in /etc/interfaces I become unnable to access the server through my external ip
[17:50] <ajmak>  hey guys, can anyone help with amavisd-new + spamassassin custom rule weighting?
[17:51] <ajmak> can I modify the rule weights directly in sa or does this need to be done through amavis?
[17:54] <koolhead17> hi all
[19:07] <wmp> hello, how to install only phpmyadmin (from apt of course), without apache and other packages>?
[19:08] <cemc> The requested URL /~chucks/SRUTracker/sru-tracker-bugs.html was not found on this server. - what happened to it? :)
[19:10] <RoyK> wmp: last I checked, phpmyadmin relied on apache
[19:11] <wmp> RoyK: reliaed? I dont understand, english isn;t my first language
[19:13] <jimbobco> wmp: you're best off accepting dependencies when using apt, that's kind of its mission in life
[19:13] <wmp> jimbobco: błeh... i have nginx and apt want to install apache...
[19:14] <RoyK> wmp: depended upon
[19:14] <RoyK> wmp: if you want to use nginx, just install phpmyadmin from source - it's not that hard
[19:14] <wmp> so, i musi install from source?
[19:14] <wmp> must*
[19:14] <wmp> ok ;)
[19:15] <RoyK> it's just php - no compilation needed
[19:15] <wmp> yes, i know ;)
[19:15] <wmp> but with apt i have auto upgrades
[19:16] <RoyK> sure, but the package in apt relies on apache, so if you want to use something else, well, do it the hard way :P
[19:17] <wmp> yes, maybe phpmyadmin shoudn't have in depends apache?
[19:18] <RoyK> don't blame me :)
[19:19] <jimbobco> wmp: http://royal.pingdom.com/2011/01/04/apache-web-server-hit-a-home-run-in-2010/
[19:19] <RoyK> I guess it should depend on a metapackage, being 'webserver' or something, but then, it'll be a bit hard to autoconfigure all possible webservers
[19:19] <RoyK> I guess they chose apache, since 99.lots% will use that
[19:19] <jimbobco> roky: agree
[19:19] <wmp> błeh... ok
[19:21] <RoyK> wmp: out of curiosity, why do you use nginx?
[19:21] <wmp> RoyK: becouse i can configure this what i want
[19:21] <wmp> in apache, i cant
[19:21] <wmp> and nginx is better
[19:22] <wmp> speed, less memory
[19:22] <RoyK> well, apache works
[19:22] <wmp> and, firstly: i know how to configure nginx ;)
[19:22] <RoyK> configuring apache isn't really that hard
[19:23] <wmp> maybe
[19:23] <wmp> nginx this same ;)
[19:24] <jimbobco> i try to go with the market, apache has more eyeballs and therefore should be more secure, robust, etc
[19:25] <jimbobco> but maybe the lines of code between the two evens things out
[19:26] <wmp> jimbobco: nginx also is security
[19:26] <wmp> and i have problems with apache in my small hosting
[19:26] <wmp> but maybe other admin can't know how to cnfigure it
[19:26] <jimbobco> right tool for the right job...
[19:26] <wmp> with nginx i have 0 problems
[19:28] <wmp> in nginx i have: http_auth with PAM, serwer/download -> /home$USER/download; serwer/www -> /home/$USER/www; i have SSL and other features ;)
[19:31] <RoyK> wmp: you get those for apache as well
[19:31] <wmp> RoyK: maybe ;)
[19:32] <RoyK> apache has been around for 15 years or so
[19:32] <wmp> RoyK: wait, i show you statistic from webmin
[19:32] <RoyK> there's a lot you can do with apache...
[19:32] <wmp> on serwer with 50k unique users
[19:36] <wmp> s/webmin/munin/ ;)
[19:41] <wmp> RoyK: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/05/12/ss.png
[19:42] <wmp> nginx use 2MB memory
[19:43] <wmp> sorry, 160mb
[19:43] <wmp> ;)
[19:49] <RoyK> not a lot, though
[19:49] <RoyK> it's better if it uses that memory wisely than reading everything from disk
[19:55] <TheKernel[work]> if you're ssh'd into another box and the connection drops but the session doesn't know it yet, is there a way to force the SSH session to stop so you can go back to your local terminal?
[19:56] <w00> kill the ssh from another session?
[19:57] <wmp> TheKernel[work]: kill shell opened in this sh
[19:57] <wmp> ssh
[19:57] <TheKernel[work]> lets say I'm consoled in
[19:57] <TheKernel[work]> its the only tty I can use
[20:00] <w00> ..wait for timeout then
[20:00] <TheKernel[work]> lol yeah
[20:00] <TheKernel[work]> that's what I do
[20:00] <w00> And next time use the ssh in screen
[20:06] <jimbobco> byobu is nice for basic screen functionality
[21:40] <DinVitamin> I'm installing Ubuntu Server. What would be the command for installing the bare minimum packages I need to have a minimal GUI so that I can do something like play a video or look at a picture?
[21:55] <jimbobco> you can install the ubuntu-desktop metapackage, but I wouldn't call it minimal
[21:56] <marcanthony81> does anyone have any bind9 experience and has a moment to answer some questions
[21:58] <marcanthony81> ok i guess not
[22:05] <Pumpkin-> well
[22:05] <Pumpkin-> if he had waited around I'd have helped
[22:05] <Pumpkin-> but he didn't
[22:12] <pmatulis> next time Pumpkin-
[22:23] <marcanthony811> does anyone have any BIND9/DNS experience that could help with an issue I'm having
[22:23] <marcanthony811> hello btw
[22:24] <marcanthony811> is there anyone out there
[22:24] <marcanthony811> does anyone know anything about bind
[22:25] <marcanthony811> ok how about this
[22:26] <marcanthony811> does anyone know what could possibly be the problem if you can ping the hostname of a machine but can not ping the FQDN
[22:26] <marcanthony811> for example
[22:26] <marcanthony811> i can ping host1
[22:26] <marcanthony811> i can not ping host1.example.local
[22:36] <andygraybeal> stick aruond and maybe we can get to yuo :)
[22:56] <pmatulis> he's gone again?
[23:01] <teddyb> when i boot ubuntu server on my laptop should i see anything?
[23:03] <teddyb> like should i be seeing a prompt or anything like when i ssh into one
[23:03] <w00> Of course
[23:05] <teddyb> cool, something must have gone wrong :)
[23:05] <w00> Well what do you see?
[23:06] <teddyb> a black screen
[23:06] <teddyb> no prompt no nothing
[23:06] <w00> And if you do alt-f1 for example?
[23:07] <teddyb> ill give it a try


[02:02] <phat4life> does ubuntustudio have unity like 11.10
[02:02] <holstein> phat4life: ubuntustudio = ubuntu
[02:02] <phat4life> crap
[02:02] <holstein> so, it has access to the same packages
[02:02] <holstein> you can have unity if you want
[02:02] <phat4life> i hate unity
[02:02] <phat4life> i want to get rid of it lol
[02:02] <holstein> we have XFCE by default
[02:03] <holstein> you can install XFCE or LXDE
[02:03] <holstein> or gnome
[02:03] <holstein> or KDE
[02:03] <holstein> or whatever...
[02:03] <phat4life> i am going to install gnone
[02:03] <holstein> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:03] <phat4life> ever since 11.04 i haven't been able to dual screen either
[02:03] <holstein> could be driver related
[02:03] <phat4life> holstein: alright ill try that
[02:03] <phat4life> yeah nvidia
[02:04] <phat4life> it worked in older versions fine
[02:04] <holstein> im running 10.04 on my dual monitor production machine
[02:04] <holstein> 10.04 = LTS
[02:04] <holstein> i consider the others to be 'testing' really
[02:04] <phat4life> does ubuntu studio use a different kernal than 11.10
[02:05] <holstein> nah, we dont really *need* that so much anymore
[02:05] <holstein> we hope to have a -lowlatency option
[02:05] <holstein> but, its not really necessary these days
[02:06] <phat4life> i really need to be able to use a external monitor.  ugh
[02:07] <holstein> sure
[02:07] <holstein> install 10.04
[02:07] <holstein> gnome2 is there
[02:07] <holstein> no unity
[02:07] <phat4life> yeah that is what i am thinking of doing
[02:08] <phat4life> honestly does anyone really like unity?
[02:08] <phat4life> its so hard to use
[02:08] <holstein> phat4life: i think so
[02:08] <holstein> i dont use it, and its not for me
[02:08] <holstein> but ive heard folks like it
[02:08] <phat4life> reallt? it feels so backwards
[02:08] <holstein> yeah, its not for me
[02:09] <phat4life> well really what i am trying to do is start reverse engineering some of the audio software in ubuntu studio
[02:09] <holstein> why?
[02:09] <holstein> its all opensource
[02:09] <phat4life> i mean not reverse engineer, but contribute
[02:09] <holstein> i mean, have fun with it, but theres no need to reverse engineer
[02:09] <holstein> the source is all there
[02:10] <phat4life> figure out how i works is what i mean by reverse engineer
[02:10] <holstein> we cant include things by default that are not open
[02:10] <holstein> phat4life: O I C
[02:10] <holstein> phat4life: welcome
[02:10] <holstein> let me link you some channels then
[02:10] <phat4life> cool
[02:10] <holstein> #opensourcemusicians is a nice community
[02:10] <holstein> not only buntu obviously
[02:10] <holstein> you can join #ubuntustudio-devel
[02:11] <phat4life> i am mostly going to work on the DAW
[02:11] <holstein> ardour
[02:11] <phat4life> i they have an irc.
[02:11] <holstein> #ardour is a great channel
[02:11] <phat4life> *i think
[02:11] <holstein> las is the main guy
[02:11] <holstein> ardour is his basically
[02:11] <phat4life> yeah i really want to dive right into that code
[02:12] <holstein> with lots of contributors
[02:12] <holstein> phat4life: we can use some coding contributors
[02:12] <holstein> we = ubuntustudio
[02:13] <phat4life> that is cool. i may have to look into that actually
[02:13] <holstein> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-devel
[02:13] <holstein> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/Main_Page is a great project
[02:14] <holstein> falktx is the dev there
[02:14] <holstein> he's in #kxstudio and #opensourcemusicians
[02:14] <holstein> quite a helpful and busy guy in the community
[02:17] <phat4life> sweet thx for the links
[02:17] <holstein> sure
[02:17] <holstein> lots of those guys hang out there
[02:17] <holstein> the rakarrack folks
[02:17] <holstein> dream studio or whatever its called
[02:19] <phat4life> holstein: do you produce?
[04:40] <tlm> E: postfix: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 75
[04:40] <tlm> E: bsd-mailx: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[04:40] <tlm> E: cardstories: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:41] <holstein> tlm: did you turn it off during an upgrade?
[04:41] <holstein> in synaptic, there a 'fix' option
[04:41] <holstein> i would try that first
[04:41] <holstein> then, start with an apt tool
[04:42] <tlm> holstein during an upgrade? no
[04:42] <holstein> tlm: doesnt matter
[04:42] <holstein> try 'fix packages' in synaptic
[04:42] <holstein> fix broken packages
[04:42] <holstein> tlm: you cant have multiple package managers open either
[04:43] <tlm> holstein I don
[04:43] <tlm> 't
[04:44] <holstein> tlm: you dont what?
[04:44] <holstein> see 'fix broken packages' ?
[04:44] <tlm> holstein have any other package managers open, nothing in the term or anything
[04:45] <holstein> tlm: OK
[04:47] <tlm> holstein hitting fix broken packages does nothing so far as I can see, I haven't screwed around with Bleachbit or anything
[04:48] <holstein> tlm: well, something bad has happened
[04:48] <holstein> and i didnt do it ;)
[04:49] <tlm> I blame XFCE, friggin rodents...
[04:49] <holstein> hehe
[04:50] <tlm> installing the Mate PPA, will see if the error pops again
[04:50] <holstein> tlm: its bsd-mailx it seems
[04:51] <holstein> anyways, you could try removing bsd-mailx and whatever cardstories is
[04:51] <holstein> if you've added a lot of PPA's, who konws
[04:52] <holstein> you can also ask in #ubuntu-beginners and/or #ubuntu
[04:52] <holstein> this is not studio specific
[04:52] <holstein> and im about to head out for the evening
[04:53] <tlm> nah, this is the first, since I've hated every other desktop other then Gnome2, waited for the PPA instead of building it
[04:56] <tlm> holstein Didn't know theres a beginners room?  Yeah I know, but I've got the worst luck on #ubuntu for getting any reply
[04:56] <tlm> even a fsck of
[04:58] <holstein> tlm: right, but im leaving
[04:58] <holstein> no one else is here
[04:58] <tlm> K
[04:58] <holstein> so, try the beginners room
[04:58] <holstein> #ubuntu-beginners
[04:58] <holstein> thats where they'll help
[04:58] <holstein> hopefully
[04:58] <holstein> i would purge the PPA's
[04:58] <holstein> try and get a clean batch op package
[04:58] <holstein> s
[04:59] <holstein> i would get rid of those 2 there in that error message you linked
[04:59] <holstein> that might be enough
[04:59] <holstein> anyways... GN :)