[09:55] <head_victim> Asia/Oceania Ubuntu Membership Board meeting in 5 mins - quick ping for the board - Destine , persia , ejat , elky & lifeless (I can't see the others online)
[09:56] <ejat> 0/
[09:56]  * ejat still in jetlag mode ..
[09:59] <Destine> head_victim, me too, jet lagged.
[09:59] <ejat> all 5 are here today ?
[09:59] <ejat> Destine :)
[09:59] <head_victim> Ah UDS or other travels?
[10:00] <Destine> head_victim, UDS.
[10:00] <ejat> Destine : sad we doesnt meet ..
[10:00] <ejat> or maybe i see u without noticing u .. sorry ..
[10:00] <Destine> ejat, I noticed you~
[10:00] <Destine> ejat, freeflying pointed you out for me.
[10:00] <ejat> then i should notice u if we are in the community / leadership summit
[10:01] <Destine> ejat, i went to design/translation sessions.
[10:01] <ejat> i meet freeflying … is it at the party ?
[10:01] <head_victim> Ok so we're still chasing 2 for quorum.
[10:01] <head_victim> Actually, just 1
[10:01] <head_victim> 4 is quorum if I recall.
[10:02] <Destine> ejat, he pointed out just on the road.
[10:03] <ejat> owh okie .. maybe in the next UDS .. hopefully ..
[10:04] <head_victim> If any of the applicants are here, sorry, we need another board member to make quorum. We'll wait a couple of minutes in the hope that one of them come to the keyboard
[10:05] <minsikcho> ok :)
[10:05] <ejat> only minsikcho  here ?
[10:05] <ejat> how about the others?
[10:05] <minsikcho> ejat: i've got no idea.... here he comes :)
[10:06] <ejat> owh okie ..
[10:06] <ashickur-noor> Sorry for being Late
[10:07] <ashickur-noor> Is the meeting Started?
[10:07] <ejat> ashickur-noor : not yet
[10:07] <ejat> elky ?
[10:07] <ejat> lifeless ?
[10:07] <ejat> !ping
[10:07] <Destine> freeflying, ?
[10:08] <Destine> ejat, I feel like a sleep and a breakfast...
[10:08] <ejat> :)
[10:08] <ejat> gosh .. it took me 36hours to arrive MY
[10:10] <ejat> itnet7 …
[10:10] <Destine> ejat, I got about 24 hours.
[10:10] <ashickur-noor> BTW EID Mubarak to all
[10:10] <ejat> EID mubarak to u too ashickur-noor
[10:10] <Destine> ejat, ashickur-noor i did not follow you...
[10:11] <ejat> follow ?
[10:11] <ashickur-noor> Greeding of our holly Festival of Muslim
[10:11] <ejat> head_victim : 3 people only ?
[10:11] <Destine> ashickur-noor, I see.
[10:11] <head_victim> ejat: at this point there are only Destine, yourself and I present :/ We need 4 for quorum.
[10:12] <ejat> yups …
[10:12] <Destine> head_victim, and what do we do...
[10:12] <ejat> wanna ask help from other region ?
[10:13] <head_victim> ejat: read my mind (I just hit enter in -community)
[10:13] <ejat> yeah …
[10:13] <ejat> i saw it ..
[10:13] <ejat> :)
[10:15] <head_victim> ashickur-noor, minsikcho and any other applications, just to keep you in the loop we're trying to round up some other members to assist in making quorum ( the number of members required for voting in the meeting)
[10:16] <minsikcho> head_victim no problem :)
[10:16] <ejat> almost 20 minutes delay … ..
[10:16] <lifeless> ejat: hi
[10:16] <lifeless> am here, just tired :) (23:16 now)
[10:16] <ejat> finally .. l
[10:16] <head_victim> lifeless: you able to stay awake for the meeting? If so we can start
[10:16]  * ejat hopefully lifeless can ..
[10:16] <lifeless> head_victim: I should be able to :)
[10:16] <lifeless> we will see
[10:17] <head_victim> #startmeeting
[10:17] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Nov  8 10:17:03 2011 UTC.  The chair is head_victim. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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[10:17] <head_victim> #chairs ejat Destine lifeless
[10:17] <head_victim> happyaron doesn't appear to be here?
[10:17] <head_victim> #chair ejat Destine lifeless
[10:17] <meetingology> Current chairs: Destine ejat head_victim lifeless
[10:18] <Destine> head_victim, happyaron does not have to be now. He is for renewal.
[10:18] <head_victim> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/AsiaOceania
[10:18] <head_victim> Destine: good point, I'll shoot them an email if everyone is ok with that?
[10:18] <ejat> go by ashickur-noor 1st ?
[10:19] <head_victim> #action head_victim to email happyaron and advise self renewal acceptable
[10:19] <meetingology> ACTION: head_victim to email happyaron and advise self renewal acceptable
[10:19] <ashickur-noor> I am ready
[10:19] <Destine> head_victim, and Community council said renewal can be done automatically.
[10:19] <Destine> ashickur-noor, ok.
[10:19] <head_victim> #topic ashickur-noor
[10:20] <head_victim> So we're going to try and be quick to get through them all, we will have time to give more detailed feedback after the meeting. Just so you all don't feel like we're being too short we want to get through the 4 applicants in the remaining time
[10:20] <head_victim> ashickur-noor: so I see you have organised some gatherings since you last application (last month wasn't it?)
[10:20] <ashickur-noor> yes
[10:20] <head_victim> That is exactly the sort of activity we like to see.
[10:21] <ashickur-noor> ya I understood it on last meeting
[10:22] <ashickur-noor> And when you give me confirmation that any body can arrange Ubuntu program I start to plan for that
[10:22] <head_victim> So that ticks the significant activity (I would like to see it written up better perhaps as not everyone would be on the same mailing lists) , but I personally would like to see the sustained aspect. So basically continue with what you're doing for a cycle or so is my recommendation.
[10:22] <ashickur-noor> to gather our Old and new community people
[10:22] <head_victim> ashickur-noor: I've never known restrictions on who can and cant' do what as long as the Code of Conduct is followed.
[10:23] <ashickur-noor> I know that
[10:23] <head_victim> Do any of the other board members have questions?
[10:24] <ashickur-noor> But I told in last meeting that some one has face problem to organize program by using Ubuntu name
[10:24] <head_victim> ashickur-noor: I don't understand that issue, perhaps we can talk in more depth at the conclusion of the meeting or perhaps on the loco-contacts mailing list?
[10:25] <lifeless> http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/trademarkpolicy
[10:25] <lifeless> is likely the thing
[10:25] <head_victim> lifeless: yes but anyone can organise an event to promote ubuntu as long as the CoC is followed
[10:25] <lifeless> CoC & TM policy
[10:26] <lifeless> but yes; my point is merely that ashickur-noor *can* do things as long as following the (simple) rules
[10:26] <head_victim> lifeless: agreed and also OT for this meeting.
[10:26] <ashickur-noor> I need some break
[10:26] <head_victim> #voters lifeless Destine ejat head_victim
[10:26] <meetingology> Current voters: Destine ejat head_victim lifeless
[10:26] <ashickur-noor> I will come with in 5 min
[10:26] <ashickur-noor> Pls
[10:26] <lifeless> I'm just reading your wiki page
[10:26] <head_victim> lifeless: no problems.
[10:26] <Destine> ashickur-noor, reading too.
[10:26] <lifeless> head_victim: relevant to the extent of understanding ashickur-noor's limitations :)
[10:27] <head_victim> Ah sorry I'd read it last meeting already so I'm up to speed
[10:27] <lifeless> ashickur-noor: do you know any other Ubuntu members that might be able to give you a testimonial ?
[10:28] <lifeless> I'm +0
[10:28] <head_victim> #votesrequired 1
[10:28] <meetingology> votes now need 1 to be passed
[10:28] <lifeless> need more sustained; and would like to see some networking with other members (such that some of them wish to say they want you as a member - which is what a testimonnial is :))
[10:29] <lifeless> +0
[10:29] <head_victim> #vote If board members can please vote on ashickur-noor's Ubuntu Membership
[10:29] <meetingology> Please vote on: If board members can please vote on ashickur-noor's Ubuntu Membership
[10:29] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[10:29] <ejat> +0 need to do some more contribution ...
[10:29] <meetingology> +0 need to do some more contribution ... received from ejat
[10:29] <ashickur-noor> sorry I have some argent call from my family
[10:29] <lifeless> head_victim: meetingology hasn't registered me ?
[10:29] <head_victim> +0 I think ashickur-noor you have shown effort in organising the events but Ubuntu Membership requires a sustained and significant involvement. If you were able to sustain this effort and document your efforts better I would be able to approve your application
[10:29] <meetingology> +0 I think ashickur-noor you have shown effort in organising the events but Ubuntu Membership requires a sustained and significant involvement. If you were able to sustain this effort and document your efforts better I would be able to approve your application received from head_victim
[10:30] <lifeless> +0 need more sustained; and would like to see some networking with other members (such that some of them wish to say they want you as a member - which is what a testimonnial is :))
[10:30] <meetingology> +0 need more sustained; and would like to see some networking with other members (such that some of them wish to say they want you as a member - which is what a testimonnial is :)) received from lifeless
[10:30] <head_victim> lifeless: sorry you hit it just before I started the vote
[10:30] <lifeless> head_victim: ah, np
[10:30] <head_victim> #votesrequired 3
[10:30] <meetingology> votes now need 3 to be passed
[10:31] <Destine> +0
[10:31] <meetingology> +0 received from Destine
[10:31] <head_victim> Sorry I got that wrong, we need 3 +1's to pass not just 1 if we're using the 0's
[10:31] <head_victim> #endvote
[10:31] <meetingology> Voting ended on: If board members can please vote on ashickur-noor's Ubuntu Membership
[10:31] <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:0 Abstentions:4
[10:31] <meetingology> Motion denied
[10:31] <head_victim> ashickur-noor: I think you've shown effort in your contributions but I would like to see them sustained and some better documented evidence (I realise you're gone now but you can read this when you return to the scren)
[10:32] <Destine> ashickur-noor, i think you'd better come back a bit latter to ensure sustained effort.
[10:33] <lifeless> ashickur-noor: similar from me; its great you are getting involved, and if you keep doing some regular local meetings I'm sure you'll be granted membership easily
[10:33] <head_victim> ashickur-noor: and more than willing to go through some more feedback after the meeting or via email especially about any resistence you're finding to holding events.
[10:33] <head_victim> #topic MinSikCHO
[10:34] <minsikcho> ok.. me now...
[10:34] <head_victim> minsikcho: hi there, can you please give us a couple of sentences to introduce yourself? I'm Jared so I am the one responding via email so I know where you're coming from but others may not.
[10:34] <ejat> minsikcho : a part of android translation .. anything else u do contribute to ubuntu ?
[10:35] <minsikcho> Umm. to introduce myself briefly, i'm a teen in Korea, and I'm attending at international school..
[10:35] <minsikcho> About android, I translated ADW. Launcher, and desk notes, which former one was done by changing strings.xml, and last one by web client.. They are all listed as official translation for korean android market :)
[10:36] <ejat> sorry for that … minsikcho : are u joing the korean loco team ? or doing the Ubuntu translation at launchpad ?
[10:36] <minsikcho> ejat: yes i'm at korean loco and korean translators for ubuntu, ubuntu translation @ launchpad
[10:37] <head_victim> minsikcho: ok looking at your wiki page and the mailing list questions, I just want to let you know Ubuntu Membership is a reward as such for significant and sustained contributions to Ubuntu. It's not so that you can start work on it, anyone can work on Ubuntu with or without membership.
[10:37] <minsikcho> other than translations, i'm trying to spread words about ubuntu in Korea, which windows has almost 7-80% of share
[10:37] <ejat> because i saw u just join it ..
[10:38] <minsikcho> ejat: yup i consider that as drawbacks of myself..
[10:39] <ejat> and all the karma collection just 3 days ago … btw .. its a good start :)
[10:39] <minsikcho> before i went to loco translation team, i didn't know that i should go through some limit to translate. So, i saw my translations were just showed 'suggestion' or something
[10:40] <head_victim> minsikcho: I agree you're going about joining in the community well. I'm ready to vote
[10:40] <Destine> head_victim, ready too.
[10:41] <head_victim> Anyone else have any questions for minsikcho ?
[10:41] <head_victim> #vote If board members can please vote on minsikcho's Ubuntu Membership when ready
[10:41] <meetingology> Please vote on: If board members can please vote on minsikcho's Ubuntu Membership when ready
[10:41] <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me)
[10:43] <head_victim> +0 I think you are making really good inroads into the community. Ubuntu membership however requires significant and sustained contributions to the community. So if you continue as you are then I would suggest keeping documentation on your efforts, getting some of your team members to give you testimonials and reapply in a cycle or so.
[10:43] <meetingology> +0 I think you are making really good inroads into the community. Ubuntu membership however requires significant and sustained contributions to the community. So if you continue as you are then I would suggest keeping documentation on your efforts, getting some of your team members to give you testimonials and reapply in a cycle or so. received from head_victim
[10:43] <ejat> +0 keep up the good work and do please sustain it
[10:43] <meetingology> +0 keep up the good work and do please sustain it received from ejat
[10:43] <Destine> +0 I need to see a *sustained* contribution to Ubuntu.
[10:43] <meetingology> +0 I need to see a *sustained* contribution to Ubuntu. received from Destine
[10:43] <lifeless> +0 - membership comes after significant and sustained contributing :)
[10:43] <meetingology> +0 - membership comes after significant and sustained contributing :) received from lifeless
[10:44] <head_victim> #endvote
[10:44] <meetingology> Voting ended on: If board members can please vote on minsikcho's Ubuntu Membership when ready
[10:44] <meetingology> Votes for:0 Votes against:0 Abstentions:4
[10:44] <meetingology> Motion denied
[10:44] <head_victim> minsikcho: you're starting out right, just keep at it :) Ubuntu Membership is given to those who have already contributed though, not those about to start.
[10:45] <minsikcho> ok :) thanks for evaluating my contributions on ubuntu :) i strongly believe that it will be a nice motive for me to keep working :)
[10:45] <head_victim> We're on a tight schedule so if you want further feedback please either email the board or hang around after the meeting, we're more than willing to help just trying to get through the applications tongiht :)
[10:45] <Destine> minsikcho, keep up your good work and come back.
[10:45] <minsikcho> destine: yes :)
[10:46] <head_victim> Actually,
[10:46] <head_victim> I can't see either kokoye or bonepyaesone here
[10:46] <Destine> head_victim, can you read kokoye's wiki? can you paste it to us?
[10:46] <lifeless> 23:46 [freenode] -!- There is no such nick kokoye2007
[10:47] <lifeless> 23:46 [freenode] -!- There is no such nick boneyaesone
[10:47] <lifeless> 23:46 [freenode] -!- There is no such nick Bone_Pyae
[10:47] <lifeless> so neither are online
[10:47] <head_victim> Destine: actually, I haven't been able to read it myself. It's possible that it's in a language I don't have installed
[10:47] <ejat> shall we adjoint/end the meeting ?
[10:47]  * ejat too cant read it ..
[10:47] <Destine> head_victim, that's ...
[10:48] <head_victim> Well, if ashickur-noor or minsikcho wanted further feedback we can use the next 5 - 10 mins for that if they'd like.
[10:49] <ashickur-noor> Yap
[10:49] <head_victim> Anyone upset if I endmeeting?
[10:49] <ashickur-noor> I want
[10:50] <Destine> ashickur-noor, go ahead.
[10:50] <M0hi> Destine: I think he needs some feedback from the board
[10:51] <ashickur-noor> I want to know who can give me testimonials
[10:51] <Destine> ashickur-noor, someone who is preferably a Member and who knows you well about you work.
[10:51] <head_victim> ashickur-noor: basically with your application, I believe you're starting to do the right things. For Ubuntu Membership the requirements are listed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership and require sustained commitment
[10:52] <M0hi> ashickur-noor: People who know about your contributions can write you a testimonial. It will be having credits if you have testimonials from the Ubuntu community
[10:52] <lifeless> I'm sure there are other Ubuntu members in bangladesh
[10:52] <ejat> agreed with lifeless
[10:52] <lifeless> if you get to know them, and they see how you are contributing to Ubuntu, they may give you a testimonial
[10:52] <head_victim> But yes, having people validate your efforts always helps. If they can say " ashickur-noor was the main organiser of the event where x number of people got together and socialised/installed/etc about Ubuntu" that would be perfect.
[10:53] <ejat> gtg …. catch up with u guys later … thanks to every one who join the meeting .. .
[10:53] <minsikcho> do they are required to be ubuntu members, or other ubuntu contributors or also allowed?
[10:53] <ashickur-noor> frankly speaking Our Community members are soo busy
[10:53] <ashickur-noor> they don't have much time to do so
[10:54] <head_victim> minsikcho: don't have to be, but are preferred because other Ubuntu members have already been through the process so understand what is required.
[10:54] <head_victim> ashickur-noor: offer to help them out :)
[10:54] <Destine> ashickur-noor, or talking to them about the importance.
[10:54] <minsikcho> head_victim: is there like a list of people on the membership?
[10:55] <head_victim> minsikcho: you seem keen on translations, surely there are translators in your LoCo that are members?
[10:55] <Destine> minsikcho, Yes, on the wikipage you registered yourself.
[10:55] <head_victim> Also, translation efforts are easier to quatify on launchpad, we can see what karma you have from translations which helps (it's not the only thing we look for but is another indicator)
[10:56] <minsikcho> yes mostly translations :)
[10:56] <minsikcho> head_victim: got a findout :)
[10:56] <ashickur-noor> Can any body give me some idea how can I contribute more?
[10:56] <lifeless> I gotta run; keep strong - we welcome your involvement as it is, membership has a moderately high bar because we don't want it to be something folk quickly 'earn' and then wander away
[10:56] <lifeless> gnight all
[10:57] <Destine> lifeless, gnite.
[10:57] <head_victim> minsikcho: for example if you look at my launchpad profile - https://launchpad.net/~jarednorris/+karma - you can see that I've contributed 16020 translations
[10:57] <head_victim> Sure I've got it easy, I use an English based language
[10:57] <head_victim> But it does break down your karma into components.
[10:58] <head_victim> ashickur-noor: depends on how you want to contribute, are you a loco organiser, a translator, a developer, a bug triager or something else entirely?
[10:58] <head_victim> Oops, never ended the meeting
[10:58] <head_victim> #endmeeting
[10:58] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Nov  8 10:58:30 2011 UTC.
[10:58] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-11-08-10.17.moin.txt
[10:58] <ashickur-noor> I am a translator
[10:59] <head_victim> ashickur-noor: does your language have a translation team?
[10:59] <ashickur-noor> yes
[10:59] <head_victim> I would suggest getting in contact with them.
[10:59] <ashickur-noor> But they are out of touch of me
[10:59] <ashickur-noor> I have try to reach them several time but
[11:00] <ashickur-noor> no luck
[11:01] <head_victim> Ok, well I'd just keep translating and when the global jams come around, try and organise a translation jam.
[11:02] <ashickur-noor> what is a translation jam?
[11:02] <minsikcho> head_victim : is there group in launchpad for ubuntu members? that will definitely show if my loco team members are in membership or not..
[11:02] <head_victim> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams/Translations
[11:03] <head_victim> minsikcho: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntumembers
[11:04] <ashickur-noor> I contribute to new users of Ubuntu most
[11:04] <M0hi> minsikcho: Our community has lots of groups. Try getting attached to the group you want to. You will find a lot more people =)
[11:04] <ashickur-noor> that's why It is problem for me to collect testimonials from the elders
[11:05] <minsikcho> M0hi: thanks :) i'll look forward to get to know more ubuntu contributors :)
[11:05] <M0hi> ashickur-noor: I think I redirected you to the place you can fit yourself =)
[11:05] <head_victim> minsikcho: feel free to keep emailing the board if you wanted more feedback :)
[11:05] <head_victim> I think there is another emeting due very soon, so maybe we should move this conversation to email or another IRC channel if need be
[11:05] <ashickur-noor> #M0hi yap
[11:06] <ashickur-noor> I need it
[11:06] <ashickur-noor> where to move?
[11:06] <minsikcho> head_victim : thanks :) i think i need to work on a lot more months for being qualified :) thanks :) 'll e-mail you if i have sth to ask :)
[11:06] <head_victim> minsikcho: glad to help :)
[11:06] <minsikcho> head_victim: bye for now :)
[11:07] <head_victim> minsikcho: hope to see you applying again in the next few months :)
[11:07] <minsikcho> head_victim : thanks :)
[11:08] <Destine> head_victim, bye... need to sleep... jet lagged.
[11:08] <head_victim> Destine: good night, thanks for staying up :)
[11:09] <head_victim> lifeless: thanks for your help to :)
[11:09] <Destine> head_victim, nope. teach me how to chair and write the report next time.
[11:10] <head_victim> Destine: sure, shoot me an email if you like :) They're not hard but just take probably 30 minutes or so to teach each
[11:10] <Destine> head_victim, thanks.
[11:10] <head_victim> Destine: hey the more people able to do it the better I say
[12:07] <freeflying> Destine: how shall I renew my membership?
[12:09] <Destine> freeflying, I guess you have to put your name on, and we will have to vote... You expired.
[12:10] <Destine> freeflying, were you actually expired? or only warned that you will expire?
[12:38] <amithkk> Wait a second, memberships expire?
[12:38] <amithkk> meetingology: help
[12:38] <meetingology> amithkk: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
[12:39] <amithkk> Wait, is this supybot/
[12:43] <tumbleweed> amithkk: memberships expire, but you are given a week (or two?) to renew them
[13:00] <apw> 7 days warning you are given, luckily noone takes more than 2 days holiday ever
[13:01] <amithkk> How long does a membershim last?
[13:05] <IAmNotThatGuy> 2 years
[14:14] <lag> #libreoffice
[14:14] <lag> Doh!
[16:00] <hallyn> \o
[16:00] <lynxman> o/
[16:05] <hallyn> Daviey, I do believe you are up this week
[16:08] <lynxman> hallyn: I reckon Daviey is out today?
[16:09] <jamespage> I think he only fly home last night....
[16:09] <jamespage> so probably
[16:09] <hallyn> roaksoax, wanna do the honors?
[16:09] <roaksoax> #startmeeting
[16:09] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Nov  8 16:09:38 2011 UTC.  The chair is roaksoax. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot.
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[16:09] <lynxman> jamespage: yeah he returned last night
[16:09] <hallyn> jamespage, oh, i didn't realized he stayed through monday
[16:09] <roaksoax> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:10] <roaksoax> ALL: review http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html and make known any other bugs that need to be added to the list.
[16:10] <roaksoax> has anyone reviewed the known bugs and determined new to be added to the list?
[16:10] <hallyn> (i would have thought that was relevant only wrt oneiric release)
[16:11] <roaksoax> uhmmm maybe someone forgot to update the wikipage and it is badly outdated?
[16:11] <roaksoax> last time edited is october 18 apparently
[16:11] <roaksoax> zul: i think you forgot to update the wikipage :)
[16:12] <zul> there is a meeting now?
[16:12] <jamespage> I love a clock change
[16:12] <zul> damn daylight savings
[16:12] <hallyn> +1
[16:13] <lynxman> zul: you're late! :)
[16:13] <roaksoax> alright I guess there's no release bugs then
[16:13] <roaksoax> lets move on
[16:13] <roaksoax> smb, jamespage, hggdh to work on triaging bug #790712
[16:13] <roaksoax> any updates?
[16:14]  * smb is not aware of any
[16:14] <roaksoax> jamespage?
[16:14] <roaksoax> hggdh: ?
[16:14] <jamespage> no - I don't think we saw that issue again
[16:14] <jamespage> i.e. all the automated testing passed OK during the final part of last cycle
[16:15] <roaksoax> alright, the bug seems to be confirmed and high priority though
[16:15] <roaksoax> jamespage: anyone care on update the =corect status for it
[16:15] <roaksoax> ?
[16:16] <jamespage> ah - sorry I remember now - this can be reproduced - its been worked around at the moment (I think)
[16:16] <jamespage> we really need hggdh to confirm that tho
[16:16] <jamespage> roaksoax, please carry it over
[16:16] <roaksoax> alright
[16:17] <roaksoax> #action smb, jamespage, hggdh to work on triaging bug #790712 (carry over)
[16:17] <meetingology> ACTION: smb, jamespage, hggdh to work on triaging bug #790712 (carry over)
[16:17] <roaksoax> utlemming to figure out qemu image situation (carry-over)
[16:17] <roaksoax> uhmm i think he is not around
[16:18]  * utlemming shows up late :(
[16:18] <roaksoax> utlemming to figure out qemu image situation (carry-over)
[16:18] <roaksoax> utlemming: any updateS?
[16:18] <utlemming> that was solved about a month ago, but was never reflected in the updates
[16:18] <utlemming> they work
[16:19] <roaksoax> utlemming: alright then, let's move on
[16:19] <roaksoax> #topic Precise Development
[16:19] <roaksoax> Daviey: i guess he is not around?
[16:20] <roaksoax> anyone has anything to bring up to discussion for p-development?
[16:20] <jamespage> guess we should all be filling out work-items from UDS
[16:20] <jamespage> (just in case anyone did not know)
[16:20] <zul> damn :)
[16:20] <roaksoax> jamespage: really ?? :)
[16:21] <lynxman> shocking news
[16:21] <roaksoax> alright then, I guess that's it
[16:21] <roaksoax> moving on
[16:21] <roaksoax> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:21] <roaksoax> any new upcoming events?
[16:21] <robbiew> LISA - Dec 4-9
[16:22] <robbiew> I **might** be there
[16:22] <lynxman> robbiew: anyone from the server team going?
[16:22] <lynxman> *might* be there too
[16:22] <lynxman> I have a BoF session
[16:23] <roaksoax> alright, I guess there's no more events
[16:23] <roaksoax> let's move on
[16:23] <roaksoax> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:23] <roaksoax> hggdh: around?
[16:24] <roaksoax> i guess he is not
[16:24] <roaksoax> so let's leave it for later if he is around
[16:24] <roaksoax> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:24] <roaksoax> smb: do you have any updates for us?
[16:25] <smb> Are there questions? I don't really have updates
[16:25] <roaksoax> I guess not :(
[16:25] <roaksoax> so let's move on then
[16:25] <roaksoax> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (NCommander)
[16:26] <roaksoax> NCommander: do you have any updates for us?
[16:26] <roaksoax> or does anyone have any questions for NCommander
[16:26] <roaksoax> ?
[16:26] <roaksoax> i guess he is not around either....
[16:26] <roaksoax> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community
[16:27] <roaksoax> any updates/questions from the Community?
[16:27] <lynxman> mcollective is in progress and merging from debian, I had a long chat this morning with the debian package maintainer, we'll work together for future synced ubuntu/debian releases
[16:27] <roaksoax> yay hurray for lynxman
[16:27] <lynxman> also we're pulling back rabbitmq packages from ubuntu back to debian
[16:27] <lynxman> and bringing mcollective-plugins
[16:28] <lynxman> apart from that there's an issue with the mcollective package dependencies on oneiric (they're not right) will create a SRU later this week if anyone fancies sponsoring
[16:28] <roaksoax> that's for the updates lynxman
[16:28] <roaksoax> feel free to ask any of us
[16:28] <lynxman> roaksoax: will do :)
[16:29] <roaksoax> anyone else form the community has something to dicuss?
[16:29] <roaksoax> i guess not
[16:29] <roaksoax> #topic Open Discussion
[16:29] <roaksoax> anyone else has anything to bring to the table?
[16:30] <roaksoax> anyone with ubuflu apart from me?
[16:30] <lynxman> roaksoax: plenty of people :)
[16:30]  * jamespage has ubuflu
[16:30] <roaksoax> they should have a doctor and get us flu injections before every UDS xD
[16:30] <lynxman> roaksoax: UDS is a giant petri dish
[16:31] <roaksoax> hehe
[16:31] <roaksoax> anywyas, i think we cna end this now
[16:31] <roaksoax> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
[16:31] <roaksoax> next tuesday same time I believe
[16:31] <roaksoax> thanks all for coming
[16:31] <roaksoax> #endmeeting
[16:31] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Nov  8 16:31:39 2011 UTC.
[16:31] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-11-08-16.09.moin.txt
[23:51] <cprofitt> hey MichealH
[23:52] <Unit193> Welcome cprofitt
[23:52] <cprofitt> thanks Unit193
[23:53] <MrChrisDruif> 'lo
[23:53] <IAmNotThatGuy> Hi
[23:53] <IAmNotThatGuy> Meeting in 7 Minutes
[23:55] <MrChrisDruif> Great
[23:56] <duanedesign> o/
[23:57] <IAmNotThatGuy> heya duanedesign
[23:58] <Unit193> drs305: Howdy
[23:59] <drs305> Good evening Unit193
[23:59] <IAmNotThatGuy> duanedesign, Lets make it =]
[23:59] <IAmNotThatGuy> Heya drs305
[23:59] <drs305> Hello all.
[23:59] <Unit193> Tue Nov  8 23:59:31 UTC 2011


[19:33] <nacc> FYI, I filed (and uploaded for SRU) LP: #1816650 which is a kernel-based userspace change to lddpd. I'm not sure where all we'd see it on Ubuntu, but given that the upstream commit got put in stable, I think it's worth following up on (and someone from kernel may want to be on that bug)
[23:18] <chiluk> @smb you seem to be maintaining the hwe kernels.  Unfortunately I don't seem to see up to date branches for hwe on the bionic git tree.  Am I looking in the wrong place?


[08:53] <gjolly> hi! Is there a way of writing the metadata/userdata/network-config directly in a cloud-image/live-image without using an extra CIDATA partition with NoCloud? I tried placing the files in /var/lib/cloud/seed/nocloud (before first boot) and it seems to work but I don't know if this is a supported  feature or a hack.
[15:55] <blackboxsw> gjolly: sorry for the big delay here. you are correct and adding /var/lib/cloud/seed/nocloud or /var/lib/cloud/seed/nocloud-net/meta-data|user-data|network-config files is supported for image creation and not a hack
[15:57] <gjolly> blackboxsw: no worries, thanks! It's good news. Is that documented somewhere? or is it missing from here: https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/datasources/nocloud.html
[15:59] <blackboxsw> it is supported to allow any image creator to override other datasource detection avenues.  And NoCloud will always be detected first if present. that nocloud content can come from those seed files you suggested, or even a URL that you provide via either kernel cmdline  or smbios serial number in qemu https://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/topics/datasources/nocloud.html#nocloud
[16:00] <blackboxsw> gjolly: right that link is correct. it's worth a doc update for representing that
[16:00] <blackboxsw> gjolly: yes I think that is a gap, and the default seed directory should be represented in docs and it isn't
[16:02] <blackboxsw> BTW the /var/lib/cloud/seed/nocloud-net  dir is what LXD uses on anything earlier than Jammy
[16:03] <blackboxsw> so if you are looking to modify test images and using LXD be wary that launching those images may end up overwriting your tests
[16:04] <blackboxsw> some context on seed dirs and lxd https://blackboxsw.github.io/2021-11-08-customize-lxd-metadata-templates/
[16:05] <minimal> blackboxsw: I'd looked into this a while. For url-based seeding it does *not* request the network-config url (as networking is already up via DHCP in order to be able to fetch URLs) - however I did workaround this in the past by putting network config inside the meta-data file fetched
[16:27] <blackboxsw> falcojr: I've provided a manual for ubuntu/bionic for the SRU  since new-upstream-snapshot isn't working yet when refresh patches are involved
[16:28] <blackboxsw> *manual diff*
[16:28] <blackboxsw> +1 thanks for the reminder minimal
[16:28] <blackboxsw> reminder and workaround
[16:34] <minimal> blackboxsw: yeah I hit that as I was trying to using cloud-init with machines that needed to configure a VLAN (either for the initial DHCP to be able to reach the seed urls or to configure an initial static network config before requesting seed urls)
[16:53] <gjolly> blackboxsw: thanks for all the info
[18:55] <falcojr> blackboxsw: branches updated
[19:15] <faa> hello, now cloud-init may work with jsonschema4?
[19:18] <falcojr> I'm assuming you're referring to jsonschema draft 4? Yes, cloud-init validates cloud-config userdata against a version 4 schema
[19:20] <faa> thank, i'm maintain FreeBSD port, and old version (21.4) require jsonschema-3
[19:20] <faa> now enable jsonschema-4 too
[20:32] <blackboxsw> falcojr: I just put up a devel release PR https://github.com/canonical/cloud-init/pull/1687 so that we can SRU that content into bionic|focal|jammy PRs
[20:41] <falcojr> blackboxsw: didn't we already upload 22.3 into ubuntu/devel? Is this just for the additional commits going into the SRU?
[20:41] <blackboxsw> falcojr: we did but we now pulled the additional commits into the SRU uploads
[20:42] <blackboxsw> I generated that ubuntu/devel branch with the same commitish sync
[20:42] <blackboxsw> `new-upstream-snapshot 9f0efc474ea430c75cd0abec3e2da719d4934346`
[20:42] <blackboxsw> once we have that PR in, I can dput your bionic|jammy|focal branches up
[20:42] <blackboxsw> changsets look good, I'm just commenting on the PRs now
[20:43] <falcojr> blackboxsw: sounds good. One comment on the PR
[20:46] <blackboxsw> yes it should, thanks for the fix merge
[21:17] <blackboxsw> kinetic uploaded, and bionic, focal impish uploaded to -proposed pockets
[21:18] <falcojr> s/impish/jammy ?
[21:19] <blackboxsw> force of habit
[21:19] <blackboxsw> jammy
[21:19] <blackboxsw> Unapproved: cloud-init (bionic-proposed/main) [22.2-0ubuntu1~18.04.3 => 22.3-3-g9f0efc47-0ubuntu1~18.04.1] (edubuntu, ubuntu-cloud, ubuntu-server)
[21:19] <blackboxsw> 15:16 Unapproved: cloud-init (focal-proposed/main) [22.2-0ubuntu1~20.04.3 => 22.3-3-g9f0efc47-0ubuntu1~20.04.1] (core, edubuntu, ubuntu-cloud)
[21:19] <blackboxsw> 15:16 Unapproved: cloud-init (jammy-proposed/main) [22.2-0ubuntu1~22.04.3 => 22.3-3-g9f0efc47-0ubuntu1~22.04.1] (core, ubuntu-cloud)
[21:19] <blackboxsw> [ubuntu/kinetic-proposed] cloud-init 22.3-3-g9f0efc47-0ubuntu1~22.10.1 (Accepted)
[21:19] <blackboxsw> External
[21:20] <blackboxsw> so those releases will include up until upstream commit 9f0efc474ea430c75cd0abec3e2da719d4934346
[21:20] <blackboxsw> I'm uploading them to our ppa:cloud-init-dev/proposed now too
[21:22] <falcojr> sounds good


[00:42] <nhandler> jussi, elky, topyli, tsimpson: Trevinho wants a member cloak
[01:36] <elky> nhandler, if you havne't had a response yet, go for it.
[01:40] <nhandler> elky, Trevinho: Cloaked
[02:10] <ubot4> sdhasu called the ops in #ubuntuforums ()
[09:29] <Trevinho> nhandler: elky thank you for the cloack!


[03:17] <bryce> tjaalton: heya, what remains to be done before 1.6.0 can be uploaded?
[04:42] <tjaalton> bryce: new libdrm I guess
[05:35] <tjaalton> hmm no
[05:35] <tjaalton> it was intel that needed it
[06:01] <tjaalton> "Experience with the kernel portions of KMS (kernel mode switching) " :)
[06:04] <tjaalton> from the employment page
[09:10] <crevette> good morning
[09:11] <crevette> does anyone has some knowledge about bluetooth input device in Xorg ?
[09:11] <crevette> a reporter said it's bluetooth HID working under VT but not with Xorg
[09:16] <crevette> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bluez/+bug/328216
[09:48] <tjaalton> crevette: not much to say without Xorg.0.log
[09:54] <crevette> tjaalton, just I wanted some pointer, does a bluetooth device is listed in xinput ?
[09:55] <crevette> s/does/is/
[09:55] <crevette> and s/is//
[09:56] <tjaalton> I don't know
[09:58] <crevette> okay let ask the log first
[09:58] <crevette> can I add xorg as inpacted package?
[09:58] <tjaalton> not yet ;)
[09:59] <crevette> I'm sure this is xork, blame xorg
[09:59] <crevette> :)
[14:13] <tjaalton> so, fedora now has a patch for wacom to init all devices
[14:13] <tjaalton> http://cvs.fedoraproject.org/viewvc/devel/linuxwacom/linuxwacom-<IP_ADDRESS>-HAL.patch?revision=1.1&view=markup
[14:13] <tjaalton> Alexia_Death: ^^
[16:10] <superm1> bryce, i was talking to cjwatson about a 60 second delay to wait for X to start (or fail to start for that matter) in ubiquity-dm (used for --automatic).  i've got a case where it's failing to start because a monitor might not be plugged in.  do you know of any way to tell it to start up anyway even if it's not finding a monitor and bailing?
[16:11] <jcristau> there's no way to do that atm afaik
[16:15] <superm1> hmm okay then, the alternative solution would to be dropping that delay in the amount of time to wait until declaring X failed to start. what's a safer number that's less than 60?
[16:15] <superm1> assuming you can be starting off of live media and what not which is slower
[16:17] <jcristau> it'd probably be feasible to fix x to start at 800x600 (or 640x480) even if nothing's connected..
[16:28] <superm1> maybe forcing vesa as a fallback then.  i'm not if vesa is enforcing this too
[16:28] <superm1> *sure
[16:28] <superm1> this was with the intel driver that I was seeing this behavior
[19:07] <bryce> superm1, jcristau: I'd have no problem changing that, any ideas where this is being set?  xserver?
[19:10] <superm1> bryce, i think something would need to  be added to the X server to fall back to vesa and try that if the current driver should work and tries to work, but for some reason bales
[19:11] <superm1> because from the server's perspective, i dont think there is a way you'll see this situation
[19:11] <crevette> hey superm1
[19:11] <superm1> hi crevette
[19:11] <bryce> hmm
[19:12] <bryce> superm1: ok, not totally sure what would need implemented, but can you file a wishlist bug against xorg-server for this?
[19:15] <crevette> superm1: as you're not on #u-mobile, if you're interested with testing bluez 4.32 (https://edge.launchpad.net/~bmillemathias/+archive/ppa)
[19:16] <crevette> superm1: and you're invited to report regression from 4.30 in https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/337443
[19:17] <superm1> bryce, sure.  i think i've got a rough idea of what needs doing, just don't know the codepath, so i'll try best to word it
[19:18] <superm1> crevette, looks like a bug fix release other than " Add support for new BtIO helper library."
[19:18] <bryce> ok thanks, that may help.
[19:19] <superm1> if nothing is using that, i dont see why an FFe would be denied (unless of course there Are regressions ;))
[19:19] <crevette> superm1: yes, there were some crasher, especially in 4.31 which wasn't uploaded
[19:19] <superm1> ah okay
[19:19] <crevette> 4.31 was crashy
[19:20] <superm1> i think bluez upstream does releases too quickly imho
[19:20] <crevette> "Release early, release often"
[19:20] <crevette> :)
[19:21] <crevette> it is hard to test all corner case for packagers
[19:21] <crevette> cases
[20:25] <jcristau> superm1: why would you fall back to vesa, as opposed to just making your driver set a default fallback mode?
[20:50] <Alexia_Death> tjaalton: HAL people wont accept that upstream.
[20:50] <Alexia_Death> tjaalton: so with that they will keep patching hal forever.
[20:53] <tjaalton> Alexia_Death: umm, it's a patch for wacom
[20:53] <Alexia_Death> The kernel driver?
[20:53] <Alexia_Death> Ping said that was too much work to be done sensibly...
[20:54] <jcristau> tjaalton's link is a linuxwacom patch...
[20:54] <jcristau> so not hal, and not kernel.
[20:54] <Alexia_Death> Sorry, I dont have time to take a closer look...  then I assume its X driver and makes the driver insitalize the rest.
[20:54] <tjaalton> yes
[20:55] <Alexia_Death> There are tons of things that can go wrong... and how does it know what is pesent for a particular tablet?
[20:55] <Alexia_Death> and how to name the devices?
[20:56] <tjaalton> don't ask me :)
[20:56] <tjaalton> ask peter
[20:56] <Alexia_Death> oh well... I hope they manage to sell that to ping.
[20:57] <Alexia_Death> If its good that is.
[20:57] <tjaalton> there alread was a patch on the list that was supposed to do the same
[20:57] <tjaalton> but this one is by _the_ X input dude
[20:58] <Alexia_Death> whot?
[20:58] <tjaalton> yes
[20:58] <Alexia_Death> then it has pretty good chances of being good.
[20:59] <Alexia_Death> doesnet solve it for serial devices tho. they need to be still loaded through dbus.
[21:02] <tjaalton> fedora's wacom.fdi has some rule for serial devices
[21:21] <superm1> jcristau, there would have to be support added to that on a driver by driver basis then
[21:21] <superm1> jcristau, whereas VESA will just work on anything at low res (in  theory)
[21:23] <jcristau> vesa would probably be easier, yes.  i'm just not sure it's the right thing to do
[22:59] <tormod> bryce: re bug 335214, how do we flag (bugs that need) cherry-picking upstream commits?
[23:02] <tormod> I think we previously had a list on the wiki, but w.u.c is broken now, so I can't check
[23:04]  * bryce looks
[23:04] <bryce> yeah I used to do it in wiki, but nowadays it's easier to just snag the cherries as I see them
[23:06] <bryce> tormod, so I would be okay with assigning to me and either a) downloading the patch and attaching it to the bug report, or b) putting [patch] in the title.  Whichever is easier
[23:06] <bryce> assigning to me is optional of course, but it'll add them to my todo list
[23:11] <bryce> heh @329562.  He could not find lspci-nnv so attached /usr/bin/lspci instead
[23:30] <tormod> bryce, thanks


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[07:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ustreamer [arm64] (hirsute-proposed) [3.16-1ubuntu1]
[08:55] <ricotz> hello :), could someone please take a look at the libreoffice 6.4/7.0 sru for focal/groovy in the queue
[09:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed-kvm [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [5.11.0-1003.3]
[09:07] <rbalint> ubuntu-release please merge https://code.launchpad.net/~rbalint/britney/+git/hints-ubuntu/+merge/400166 for glibc
[09:57] <jibel> sil2100, another FFe to review bug 1921358. The code has already been approved and merged in main, but we need a formal approval for the release
[10:16] <sil2100> o/
[10:25] <sil2100> jibel: done, per comment, be sure to inform the docs/translation teams
[10:30] <jibel> sil2100, thanks. I'll send the call for translation
[11:13] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2-signed [source] (bionic-proposed) [1.167~18.04.1]
[11:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2-signed [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.167~16.04.1]
[11:48] <oSoMoN> dear release team, can you please approve the UI freeze exception for hirsute wallpapers? (bug #1921139)
[12:49] <sil2100> oSoMoN: approved o/
[13:08] <cpaelzer> ubuntu-archive: someone around to promote rsyslog-gnutls to main in hirsute?
[13:18] <sil2100> o/
[13:18] <sil2100> cpaelzer: what's the MIR for it? Or is it an existing main source?
[13:19] <sil2100> Ah, it's part of rsyslog, duh
[13:19] <cpaelzer> sil2100: existing main source
[13:19] <sil2100> Yes
[13:19]  * sil2100 didn't even think about the name at all
[13:19] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rsyslog/+bug/388605
[13:20] <sil2100> cpaelzer: done o/
[13:23] <rbasak> sil2100: o/ I was planning to help with SRUs today, as I didn't get much done yesterday
[13:23] <rbasak> I'll look at alsa-ucm-conf next
[13:27] <oSoMoN> sil2100, thanks!
[13:27] <sil2100> rbasak: thanks o/ I'm looking at the apt SRUs now if anything
[13:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted s390-tools [s390x] (focal-proposed) [2.12.0-0ubuntu3.3]
[13:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted s390-tools [s390x] (groovy-proposed) [2.14.0-1ubuntu1.2]
[13:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted alsa-ucm-conf [source] (groovy-proposed) [1.2.2-1ubuntu5.2]
[13:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted alsa-ucm-conf [source] (focal-proposed) [1.2.2-1ubuntu0.6]
[13:30]  * rbasak doesn't see any other trivial ones
[13:31] <rbasak> Back in 20, and then I'll take a bigger one
[13:35] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted apt [source] (focal-proposed) [2.0.5]
[13:35] <cpaelzer> thank you sil2100
[13:40] <cpaelzer> umm ... sil2100 ... the bug has no update in regard to that pkg promotion
[13:41] <cpaelzer> and it seems to still be in universe
[13:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted apt [source] (bionic-proposed) [1.6.13]
[13:41] <cpaelzer> do I just need to ait for all this to show up?
[13:59] <sil2100> cpaelzer: I didn't update the bug since it's a very very old MIR, and not sure if we are required to update the original MIRs in such cases? Anyway, it usually takes a publisher cycle to happen
[13:59] <rbasak> sil2100: so at, nfs-utils and the docker.io/containerd/golang-github-containers-buildah/libpod stack are held up on questions.
[13:59] <rbasak> I can look at nova next?
[13:59] <sil2100> rbasak: sure o/
[14:00] <sil2100> cpaelzer: I'll update the bug with a comment for clarity
[14:02] <rbasak> I missed opengcs which is also part of the container stack
[14:03] <rbasak> sil2100: this is my view if it's helpful: https://trello.com/b/XgBxtrZ9/sru
[14:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sosreport [source] (groovy-proposed) [4.1-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[14:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-image (bionic-proposed/main) [1.10+18.04ubuntu1 => 1.11+18.04ubuntu1] (desktop-core)
[14:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-image (xenial-proposed/main) [1.10+16.04ubuntu1 => 1.11+16.04ubuntu1] (no packageset)
[14:23] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-image (focal-proposed/main) [1.10+20.04ubuntu1 => 1.11+20.04ubuntu1] (desktop-core)
[14:24] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-image (groovy-proposed/main) [1.10+20.10ubuntu2 => 1.11+20.10ubuntu1] (desktop-core)
[14:27] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted nova [source] (focal-proposed) [2:21.1.2-0ubuntu2]
[14:28] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ubuntu-wallpapers [amd64] (hirsute-proposed/main) [21.04.1-0ubuntu1] (desktop-core)
[14:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-141.145] (core, kernel)
[14:32] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (xenial-proposed/main) [4.4.0-207.239] (core, kernel)
[14:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed/main) [4.15.0-141.145] (core, kernel)
[14:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [4.15.0-141.145]
[14:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed) [4.15.0-141.145]
[14:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted linux-signed [amd64] (xenial-proposed) [4.4.0-207.239]
[14:44] <sil2100> cpaelzer: seems like it's in main now! Took a while I must say
[14:50] <cpaelzer> thanks again sil2100
[15:06] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sbsigntool (bionic-proposed/main) [0.6-3.2ubuntu2 => 0.9.2-2ubuntu1~18.04.1] (core)
[15:51] <rbasak> sil2100: I'll look at dpdk next
[16:13] <sil2100> rbasak: ACK o/ I'm looking at sbsigntool since it's critical ^
[16:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted sbsigntool [source] (bionic-proposed) [0.9.2-2ubuntu1~18.04.1]
[17:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: bootgen-xlnx (hirsute-proposed/primary) [2020.2-0ubuntu1]
[17:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: fpga-manager-xlnx (hirsute-proposed/primary) [2020.2ubuntu2]
[17:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: libegl-mali-xlnx (hirsute-proposed/primary) [9p0.01rel0-0ubuntu4]
[17:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: linux-firmware-xilinx-vcu (hirsute-proposed/primary) [2020.2-0ubuntu0xlnx2]
[17:03] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: u-boot-xlnx (hirsute-proposed/primary) [2020.2-0ubuntu6]
[17:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: vitis-ai (hirsute-proposed/primary) [1.3.2-0ubuntu2]
[17:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: vitis-ai-dnndk (hirsute-proposed/primary) [1.3-0ubuntu1]
[17:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: xilinx-vcu-ctrl (hirsute-proposed/primary) [2020.2-0ubuntu2]
[17:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: xilinx-vcu-omx (hirsute-proposed/primary) [2020.2-0ubuntu2]
[17:04] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: xlnx-firmware (hirsute-proposed/primary) [0.1ubuntu14]
[17:08] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New sync: xrt (hirsute-proposed/primary) [202<IP_ADDRESS>6-0ubuntu3]
[17:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted dpdk [source] (groovy-proposed) [19.11.7-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[17:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted dpdk [source] (focal-proposed) [19.11.7-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>]
[18:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-keyring (groovy-proposed/main) [2<IP_ADDRESS> => 2<IP_ADDRESS>] (core)
[18:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted livecd-rootfs [source] (focal-proposed) [2.664.19]
[19:05] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-keyring [source] (groovy-proposed) [2<IP_ADDRESS>]
[19:27] <vorlon> temporarily downgrading rustc in the release pocket because 1.50 is broken on some archs and prevents bootrapping to 1.51
[19:28] <vorlon> xnox: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rustc/+publishinghistory
[19:33] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New: accepted ubuntu-wallpapers [amd64] (hirsute-proposed) [21.04.1-0ubuntu1]
[19:50] <bdmurray> vorlon: Why is popularity-contest still in main? It also doesn't appear in component-mismatches.txt
[19:54] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-keyring (focal-proposed/main) [2<IP_ADDRESS> => 2<IP_ADDRESS>] (core)
[19:59] <bdmurray> Oh, it looks like debian-goodies recommends it
[20:00] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntu-keyring (bionic-proposed/main) [2<IP_ADDRESS>~18.04.0 => 2<IP_ADDRESS>~18.04.1] (core)
[20:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: sosreport (focal-proposed/main) [4.0-1~ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 4.1-1ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (ubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-server)
[20:38] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: masakari (groovy-proposed/main) [10.0.0-0ubuntu1 => 10.0.0-0ubuntu2] (openstack)
[20:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: masakari (focal-proposed/main) [9.0.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS> => 9.0.0-0ubuntu<IP_ADDRESS>] (no packageset)
[20:51] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-keyring [source] (focal-proposed) [2<IP_ADDRESS>]
[20:52] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted ubuntu-keyring [source] (bionic-proposed) [2<IP_ADDRESS>~18.04.1]
[21:17] <sergiodj> ubuntu-archive: hi, re. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/docker.io/+bug/1919322, I will need to amend the docker.io package that has been uploaded to the SRU queue (Bionic and Focal) in order to include a transitional package for golang-github-docker-containerd-dev, which is being renamed to golang-github-containerd-containerd-dev.  I would like to get a pre-approval for this, if
[21:17] <sergiodj> possible
[22:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-hwe-5.4 [amd64] (bionic-proposed/main) [5.4.0-71.79~18.04.1] (no packageset)
[22:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-kvm [amd64] (focal-proposed/main) [5.4.0-1037.38] (no packageset)
[22:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [s390x] (focal-proposed/main) [5.4.0-71.79] (core, kernel)
[22:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-hwe-5.4 [s390x] (bionic-proposed/main) [5.4.0-71.79~18.04.1] (no packageset)
[22:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [s390x] (groovy-proposed/main) [5.8.0-49.55] (core, kernel)
[22:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (focal-proposed/main) [5.4.0-71.79] (core, kernel)
[22:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [arm64] (focal-proposed/main) [5.4.0-71.79] (core, kernel)
[22:37] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [amd64] (groovy-proposed/main) [5.8.0-49.55] (core, kernel)
[22:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-hwe-5.4 [arm64] (bionic-proposed/main) [5.4.0-71.79~18.04.1] (no packageset)
[22:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-bluefield [arm64] (focal-proposed/main) [5.4.0-1009.12] (no packageset)
[22:40] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [arm64] (groovy-proposed/main) [5.8.0-49.55] (core, kernel)
[22:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-oem-5.10 [amd64] (focal-proposed/main) [5.10.0-1020.21] (no packageset)
[22:42] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [ppc64el] (focal-proposed/main) [5.4.0-71.79] (core, kernel)
[22:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed [ppc64el] (groovy-proposed/main) [5.8.0-49.55] (core, kernel)
[22:47] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: linux-signed-hwe-5.4 [ppc64el] (bionic-proposed/main) [5.4.0-71.79~18.04.1] (no packageset)
[23:02] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: apport (groovy-proposed/main) [2.20.11-0ubuntu50.5 => 2.20.11-0ubuntu50.6] (core, i386-whitelist)
[23:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: apport (focal-proposed/main) [2.20.11-0ubuntu27.16 => 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.17] (core, i386-whitelist)


[16:32] <pleia2> I have family in town this weekend, so we might be at dinner during meeting time
[22:56] <nhaines> I just found out I have to get a friend from the airport, and if I leave now I won't be back until 10 or 11. :/