[00:00] <RandBrittain> Whenever my mouse cursor gets near the bottom-right corner of the screen, it freezes for a few seconds (maverick 64-bit, Catalyst 11.5). Why would this be happening?
[00:00] <p01s0n> is it the graphics driver problem?how to fix tht screen and install
[00:00] <Juest> RandBrittain: are you using compiz? maybe compiz hangs the system because of GPU load
[00:00] <p01s0n> help plz :|
[00:01] <BrainVirus> Does anybody know anything about sarg and how to install it? Namely, I am having issues getting the webinterface working for it i.e. viewing reports
[00:01] <captainjamie> shomon, if you want to completely switch, run sudo apt-get remove lubuntu-desktop I think.
[00:01] <shomon> captainjamie: ok thanks
[00:01] <captainjamie> p01s0n, have you enabled the restricted drivers?
[00:02] <p01s0n> i havent enabled or disables anything
[00:02] <p01s0n> i tried installing thru cd and pendrive.same thing happens
[00:02] <p01s0n> i tried 'Install' as well as live..still the same thing
[00:02] <captainjamie> type additional drivers into search please
[00:02] <captainjamie> in natty anyway
[00:03] <p01s0n> i'm sorry..i'm new into these stuff :) i didnt understand what u said
[00:03] <FisheDuJour> eipi-1:  I'm rebooting with the switch off.
[00:03] <mattk> what is the apt-get command to install the server and get rid of the desktop
[00:03] <RandBrittain> Juest: I don't think I have compiz installed. It doesn't look like it.
[00:04] <captainjamie> p01s0n, start the program called additional drivers. look for it in the application menu.
[00:04] <RandBrittain> Hm, I guess it is installed. Let me look at it.
[00:04] <FisheDuJour> let's try this again
[00:04] <RandBrittain> Hm, but turning the desktop down to "no effects" doesn't stop the issue.
[00:04] <p01s0n> but for that i have to login right.I cant even install or start the ubuntu live.After the ubuntu splash screen it hangs and shows that weird screen..the one like in the image
[00:05] <eipi-1> FisheDuJour, start tail command first and wait some time after every action.
[00:05] <auk> tanath, regarding an app that changes your uid, do you know if the gnome user management utility will take care of file ownership permissions?
[00:05] <captainjamie> right,  see.
[00:05] <fengshaun> Hi all!  I'm going to get a printer soon.  Are there any recommendations for wireless printers that work painlessly with Linux?
[00:05] <captainjamie> *i see
[00:05] <w30> How do I upgrade to Natty without Unity?
[00:06] <captainjamie> can you start in safe mode?
[00:06] <Juest> RandBrittain: welll, maybe uninstalling compiz?
[00:06] <captainjamie> w30, you can choose the old interface on login
[00:06] <p01s0n> how to do that?
[00:06] <RandBrittain> Oh, here it is: it's a Catalyst issue. No fix for it atm. :(
[00:07] <captainjamie> p01s0n, isn't it in the grub menu?
[00:07] <w30> captainjamie, will that get me Compiz without Unity?
[00:07]  * RandBrittain thanks all present.
[00:07] <captainjamie> w30, i think so. you'll still have unity but it wont be used... if that makes sense
[00:08] <w30> captainjamie, ok, thanks
[00:08] <p01s0n> grub is the bootloader right?for grub to come i have to install ubuntu right?i have windows 7 installed thats it.
[00:08] <cache_surplus> i got this odd message from get.adobe.com/flashplayer. when i selected 10.04 download for 64bitflash player, it prompted for updating maverick sources.list then apt-curl tried to load it, then it said - adobe-plugin was virtual? what can i do now?
[00:08] <cache_surplus> trying to load 64bit flash with native support beta
[00:08] <p01s0n> i'm trying to install ubuntu but i cant.I cant even try it using the live option.It just doesnt cross the splash screen
[00:09] <captainjamie> oh... I think I;ve had that before
[00:09] <raoult1> hi
[00:09] <FisheDuJour> eipi-1: Okay, I killed nm-applet. Now what?
[00:09] <captainjamie> maybe try a live USB made with unetbootin
[00:09] <p01s0n> if there is anyway to install or start live in safe mode can u suggest that.Someway to start it without using the graphic card,I guesss its my nvidia GTS 360m that is causing the problem
[00:09] <tanath> auk, sorry, went afk. i think there is one that does, but it's been a while
[00:10] <p01s0n> i havent tried live usb with unetbootin but i tried with universal usb installer and linux creator.Both doesnt help
[00:10] <tanath> auk, it was a gnome app though, yes
[00:10] <PL4Y3R> tanath:what other linux system have u used besides ubuntu
[00:10] <eipi-1> FisheDuJour, start wicd from console
[00:10] <captainjamie> hmm... and a live dvd doesn't work either?
[00:10] <p01s0n> i have the image burned to cd.Tried and doesnt work
[00:11] <auk> tanath,  from googling it seems the default user admin app won't do that
[00:11] <captainjamie> gosh, I really don't know.
[00:11] <spydmobile> can someone direct me to a channel for ubuntu server?
[00:11] <FisheDuJour> eipi-1:  I'm rebooting with the switch off.
[00:11] <p01s0n> thought it was corrupt download but the md5 hash is same and even then i tried force rechecking in utorrent.Its the same
[00:11] <FisheDuJour> Ignore that please
[00:11] <p01s0n> :( its ok thank anyways captainjamie
[00:11] <auk> tanath, in any case, any idea if changing the ownership of all a user's files *while logged in to a desktop environment* will cause problems?
[00:11] <tanath> PL4Y3R, debian, suse, knoppix and some variants, a couple distros that i don't think exist anymore... pinguy... i don't recall all of them
[00:11] <captainjamie> I'm sorry I'm not more help. I'm fairly new myself (1 year) and it is 10 past midnight!
[00:11] <FisheDuJour> eipi-1:  I'm rebooting with the switch off.
[00:11] <raoult1> how can I lauch config compiz by de console
[00:12] <p01s0n> its 4am here.didnt sleep till npw :(
[00:12] <auk> (to avoid the encryption prob, where i can't change them from another sudo-er account
[00:12] <tanath> auk, that could cause some things to crash
[00:12] <PL4Y3R> tamath:i'm think bout puting puppy on one of my older pc an imac g3 u hink it would work
[00:12] <tanath> auk, best to reboot to single user mode or something
[00:12] <p01s0n> just trying to figure it out
[00:13] <captainjamie> I hope someone else knows. good luck, maybe try Linux Mint until you can get it working?
[00:13] <tanath> PL4Y3R, possibly. can't say from experience
[00:13] <captainjamie> That's nearly the same...
[00:13] <auk> tanath, is crash all? i'm fine as long as there is no file damage... "single user mode"? (i shall look up)
[00:13] <p01s0n> if you find out the solution or if u know someone that does please let me know of it throught ubuntu forum ok.here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1762626
[00:13] <p01s0n> ok then i'll try that :) thanks
[00:13] <captainjamie> ok, good night!
[00:13] <tanath> auk, well some apps may need config changes. i can't really speak about probs resulting from encrypted partitions specifically
[00:14] <FisheDuJour> eipi-1: Having trouble with phone.
[00:14] <tanath> auk, single user mode is what you get when you choose 'recovery' mode at grub
[00:14] <tanath> auk, boot to root prompt
[00:14] <Juest> auk: or get into it by typing sudo init 1
[00:15] <gloria_> yo
[00:15] <PL4Y3R> Tanath:right now i have a old old old linux on it.right now on my imac G5 with the new new new linux lol
[00:15] <eipi-1> FisheDuJour, thought so
[00:16] <eipi-1> what about a lan connection for your computer, maybe?
[00:16] <tanath> PL4Y3R, G5 is pretty old, IIRC. but even current linux should be able to handle old system requirements. you'll just want to use a lightweight environment
[00:16] <PL4Y3R> the g5 itsnt tht old
[00:17] <eipi-1> FisheDuJour, what about a lan connection for your computer. possible?
[00:17] <mattk> Is there a way to access a terminal from grub?
[00:17] <tanath> PL4Y3R, lxde is fairly popular. fluxbox, blackbox, etc., are even more lightweight. might want to have a look at icewm
[00:17] <PL4Y3R> Tanath:g5 isnt that old the g4 is old and the g3 is even older
[00:17] <tanath> PL4Y3R, been a while since i looked at mac models too :P
[00:18] <tanath> PL4Y3R, last time i looked at a G-anything was years ago
[00:18] <PL4Y3R> yea the g5 is the newer up to date
[00:18] <tanath> mmk
[00:19] <spydmobile> my ubuntu is hanging at boot with CFIS mount error 113, I cannot get into it, can anyone help me?
[00:19] <PL4Y3R> Tanath: what kind of pc are you on (brand)
[00:19] <tanath> PL4Y3R, i'd P4. afk now
[00:19] <tanath> PL4Y3R, *old
[00:20] <FisheDuJour> eipi-1:  I've got wicd showing in the system tray--de--but when I slide the switch to ON, it just initially fires up, then drops again...and
[00:20] <mattk> How do I remove all graphical interfaces from ubuntu-desktop and replace it with ubuntu-server?
[00:21] <ferrenrock> installed xp and it wrecked my partition table....but xp still works....how do I rectify such a situation? I put in the ubuntu live cd and gparted doesn't find any partitions
[00:21] <FisheDuJour> eipi-1:  please ignore the extra.....and ... My autocomplete does weird things on this phone sometimes.
[00:22] <n000bl3t> a
[00:22] <eipi-1> FisheDuJour, im gonna install wicd quickly
[00:22] <FisheDuJour> k
[00:23] <ferrenrock> what would be the best course of action?
[00:24] <ferrenrock> anyone?
[00:24] <mattk> is there a way to get a terminal when ubuntu starts instead of gdm?
[00:26] <eipi-1> mattk, try http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8779719&postcount=3
[00:27] <ubuntuCEO> hi i just upgraded from ubuntu 8.04 to 10.04 and my printer no longer work (canon mp210)  it said missing filter something like that.  how do i fix it?
[00:28] <Raikia> Can anyone here help me with SOCKS forwarding through SSH?
[00:29] <FisheDuJour> eipi-1: I'm playing around with it. Using the slide switch gives me tail output, saying it's deactivating the interface
[00:29] <r0fs3ck5> ubuntuCEO: I've had similar issues with a canon mp270
[00:29] <birdmandont> when i log in via SSH i am in home directory by default. How can I change this, to say put me in the root of another drive by default when i log in via SSH
[00:29] <ubuntuCEO> r0fs3ck5, did u get it solved?
[00:29] <FisheDuJour> eipi-1:  It just won't seem to hook.
[00:29] <r0fs3ck5> ubuntuCEO: no, im virtualising windoze xp as a print server.
[00:30] <Raikia> birdmandont: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=411184
[00:30] <ubuntuCEO> ?
[00:30] <r0fs3ck5> ubuntuCEO: as a temporary workaround :P
[00:30] <r0fs3ck5> *chokes*
[00:30] <ubuntuCEO> r0fs3ck5, u run virtual box ?
[00:30] <r0fs3ck5> ubuntuCEO: yes
[00:30] <ubuntuCEO> r0fs3ck5, that sucks
[00:30] <eipi-1> FisheDuJour, i don't get it sorry.
[00:30] <ubuntuCEO> r0fs3ck5, did u try this ? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-get-a-canon-all-in-one-printer-working-with-ubuntu.html
[00:30] <r0fs3ck5> ubuntuCEO: I would like native linux support though.  Canoon seems to have a lot of issues though.
[00:31] <eipi-1> FisheDuJour, what was your laptop model?
[00:31] <birdmandont> Raikia, perfect. Thanks!
[00:31] <r0fs3ck5> ubuntuCEO: thanks, i'l have a look
[00:32] <ubuntuCEO> r0fs3ck5, does your printer work in 8.04?
[00:32] <ubuntuCEO> r0fs3ck5, or earlier version of ubuntu?
[00:32] <b3gott3n> hi
[00:32] <r0fs3ck5> ubuntuCEO: the scanner worked.  could never get the printer to behave appropriately though.
[00:32] <b3gott3n> what's the best text based browser?
[00:32] <b3gott3n> i want sometime to run in terminal
[00:33] <b3gott3n> i heard emacs wasn't really kept up to date anymore
[00:33] <Alotesnivek> Hey guys, So i was on skype talking and all of a sudden my mic stopped working. Laptop wont even notice it now when i plug it in.  Checked on another computer, mic works fine. Any ideas on how to fix? Using natty.
[00:33] <ThomasB2k> Greetings! In what file is the custom banshee metadata I have stored?
[00:33] <ubuntuCEO> r0fs3ck5, i downloaded and use the mac os driver from an australia site although i bought in canada to make it work under 8.04
[00:33] <new2net> i like unity.... ;)
[00:33] <b3gott3n> @Alotesnivek did you restart?
[00:34] <Alotesnivek> Yes, many times.
[00:34] <ubuntuCEO> r0fs3ck5, but after upgrade to 10.04, printer not working
[00:34] <b3gott3n> @Alotesnivek did you try using the mic on the system outside of skype?
[00:34] <FisheDuJour> eipi-1: Any luck yet?
[00:34] <Alotesnivek> yes, still nothing.
[00:34] <r0fs3ck5> ubuntuCEO: I tried the linux drivers off the canon site, but they seem to have issues on 64 bit 10.04
[00:34] <Snakkah> How do I get root access to my internal HDD from the Live CD? I can't just go gksudo gedit /etc/[insert file name here], it opens the files on the live system.
[00:35] <mattk> eipi-1: how do I find out where grub is intalled. I ran update-grub and get Cannot find list of partitions!  (Try mounting /sys.)
[00:36] <mattk> eipi-1: I think I figured it out
[00:36] <b3gott3n> @Alotesnivek and your soundcard works fine, you can hear sound?
[00:36] <Alotesnivek> Yes, I can hear sound just fine.
[00:36] <new2net> is there a hotkey to switch the screen (by default you get 4) in unity?
[00:36] <BigNerd_> join #podnutz
[00:37] <eipi-1> FisheDuJour, try 'tail -f /var/log/wicd.log' and try to tell me whats going on
[00:38] <r0fs3ck5> ubuntuCEO: Canon don't even have the model I have listed in their driver downloads section.  I suppose they it was the last of a canned series.
[00:38] <eipi-1> mattk, you could also first test it by editing the line temporarily: start grub press 'e' on boot menu entry and add 'text' to options
[00:39] <b3gott3n> @Alotsnivek
[00:39] <b3gott3n> can you check to see if its muted
[00:39] <b3gott3n> or works in another program?
[00:39] <Alotesnivek> Yeah, it's not muted.
[00:39] <trism> new2net: ctrl+alt+up down left or right
[00:39] <b3gott3n> what tells you its not muted
[00:39] <b3gott3n> skype?
[00:40] <Alotesnivek> Yeah skype says it's fine. But now it's not even registering that it's plugged in.
[00:41] <new2net> trism: awesome ^_^ thanks
[00:42] <b3gott3n> you need to reset the driver
[00:42] <r0fs3ck5> ubuntuCEO: oh look. found it.
[00:42] <mattk> eipi-1: my gpu doesn't work.I can get a terminal using the liveusb but can't access my install
[00:42] <Alotesnivek> Ugg, if you have the time, how would i go about doing that?
[00:43] <ubuntuCEO> r0fs3ck5, they have linux driver on canon site?
[00:43] <ubuntuCEO> r0fs3ck5, US canon or CA canon?
[00:43] <eipi-1> mattk, can't you boot into recovery and enter recovery console? ubuntu version?
[00:43] <losty> hello
[00:43] <SegFaultAX> Can someone explain to me what Unity is? All the descriptions on the site are a bit vague.
[00:43] <b3gott3n> arecord -l
[00:43] <r0fs3ck5> ubuntuCEO: I managed to find it on the australian site.
[00:43] <b3gott3n> do you see your mic?
[00:44] <Alotesnivek> Nope.
[00:44] <mattk> eipi-1: How would I do that? I can't see anything except for a terminal when I ctrl-alt-F2
[00:44] <r0fs3ck5> eipi-1: it's a handy i386deb.tar.gz too
[00:44] <ubuntuCEO> r0fs3ck5, so australia site again?  so they assume only australian uses linux? WTF?
[00:44] <losty> SegFaultAX from my understanding, it is sorta like a dock
[00:44] <r0fs3ck5> ubuntuCEO: well, australians like linux.
[00:44] <losty> im using 11.04 but for some reason, unity is not visible
[00:44] <losty> not complaining..
[00:45] <SegFaultAX> losty: Is it a replacement for gnome-panel?
[00:45] <b3gott3n> http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/arecord1.html
[00:45] <FisheDuJour> eipi-1:  I'm  looking at the wicd/tail output. What am I looking for?
[00:45] <b3gott3n> you see nothing>
[00:46] <Alotesnivek> I see this:  card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: CONEXANT Analog [CONEXANT Analog]   Subdevices: 1/1   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
[00:46] <r0fs3ck5> ubuntuCEO: nope still no x86-64 support.  only works with i386 at this stage.
[00:46] <SegFaultAX> losty: I see the launcher, it looks like a rip off of Avant.
[00:46] <losty> SegFaultAX im not sure, i think possibly, as from what i gather, its to replace gnome 3, unless im totally reading it wrong!
[00:46] <b3gott3n> arecord -N
[00:46] <eipi-1> FisheDuJour, in wicd-client you entered your passphrase and tried to connect?
[00:46] <eipi-1> r0fs3ck5, sorry?
[00:46] <SegFaultAX> losty: So it's yet another desktop environment entirely?
[00:46] <sakuragno> hallo! i've a problem with a all.in.one canon piximamp160. i've ubuntu10.10 and when i try to use scanner.. even if xsane make the scanner do the prewiev.. after it has a problem of comunication  and i cannot see anything.. the prewiev.. or nothing else.. help me!
[00:46] <Alotesnivek> That command gave me a screen full of ?'s .
[00:47] <b3gott3n> ok close out of that
[00:47] <SegFaultAX> losty: Do you know if it uses a custom window manager? Does it use Metacity or Compiz?
[00:47] <losty> im not sure whats happened in my install, but i see nither, launcher/dash/unity... SegFaultAX i think so, but confused if it is
[00:47] <b3gott3n> it's not busy
[00:47] <r0fs3ck5> ubuntuCEO: are you running i386?
[00:47] <losty> not too sure mate, i only started playing around with it last night
[00:48] <Gomaaz> !pastebin
[00:48] <b3gott3n> go to System > Preferences > Sound > Input
[00:48] <eipi-1> mattk, well a terminal with ctrl alt F1 is just perfect (if it is from your install not from usb/live)
[00:48] <r0fs3ck5> eipi-1: canon drivers for mp270.  i386 drivers only. http://support-au.canon.com.au/contents/AU/EN/0100236202.html
[00:48] <losty> im finding gwibber not very fluid, when trying to scroll home tweets..
[00:48] <SegFaultAX> losty: It looks like they're ripping off Mac desktop environment to get converts.
[00:48] <FisheDuJour> eipi-1:  In wicd-client, it's showing no wireless networks found.
[00:48] <b3gott3n> you see the devise and volume?
[00:48] <robin0800> SegFaultAX, unity 3d uses compiz and unity uses metacity
[00:48] <HelloWorld321> I'm in Firefox on Ubuntu, and I'm trying to hit a website that requires DotNet.  How do you install those plugins for Firefox?
[00:48] <HelloWorld321> !dotnet
[00:48] <HelloWorld321> !mono
[00:48] <HelloWorld321> !firefox
[00:48] <Alotesnivek> The device isnt showing up under volume control any longer.
[00:49] <losty> SegFaultAX i do like the social side thats sorta built in
[00:49] <SegFaultAX> robin0800: Is it a desktop environment or does it replace only gnome-panel?
[00:49] <eipi-1> r0fs3ck5, maybe you're givin good advice to wrong person? i dont have a canon printer :)
 very clean and easy on the eye
[00:49] <SegFaultAX> losty: I dunno dude, that's kinda crap to me.
[00:49] <eipi-1> FisheDuJour, try 'iwlist scan'
[00:49] <r0fs3ck5> eipi-1: "sorry?" you addressed me before.
[00:50] <ubuntuCEO> r0fs3ck5, yes i am running i386
[00:50] <nameless_1> HelloWorld321, dotNet is for Windows
[00:50] <mattk> eipi-1: I think it's just fudged because ctrl-alt-F1 isn't displaying anything
[00:50] <ubuntuCEO> r0fs3ck5, 32 bit ubuntu 10.04
[00:50] <SegFaultAX> robin0800: Can it be installed alongside gnome/kde/xfce/etc.?
[00:50] <nameless_1> but I don't think you require dotNet for viewing a site?
 this is the first time, im majorly using it, not sure if i should go back to 10.4
[00:50] <SegFaultAX> losty: So it's default now on Ubuntu is it?
[00:50] <eipi-1> FisheDuJour, or better try with 'sudo iwlist scan'
[00:51] <robin0800> SegFaultAX, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/natty/
[00:51] <losty> from a podcast at the guys from jupiter, it seems so <SegFaultAX>
[00:51] <eipi-1> r0fs3ck5, never mind
[00:51] <ubuntuCEO> r0fs3ck5, i have Canon MP210 all in one crap
[00:51] <r0fs3ck5> eipi-1: :)
[00:51] <eipi-1> mattk, strange. but you have terminal on F2?
[00:51] <r0fs3ck5> ubuntuCEO: yes, I can't find the driver for that on the canon site
[00:51] <mattk> yeah but only when I'm using the liveusb
[00:52] <r0fs3ck5> r0fs3ck5: you could try a driver for a similar model.
[00:52] <mattk> eipi-1: only when I use the liveusb
[00:52] <sakuragno> is there anyone that just even read me? pls  ^^
[00:52] <r0fs3ck5> ubuntuCEO: you could try a driver for a similar model.
[00:52] <scottmaccal> HelloWorld321: Applications --> Accessories --> Terminal  -- sudo apt-get update -- sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[00:52] <SegFaultAX> robin0800: Ah, so it's basically just a crap ton of extensions and customizations that run on top of gnome.
[00:52] <ubuntuCEO> r0fs3ck5, should i try the driver for osx??
[00:52] <SegFaultAX> robin0800: Like a highly customized gnome environment almost.
[00:52] <robin0800> SegFaultAX, yes
[00:52] <HelloWorld321> tx Scott ... trying ....
[00:52] <tanath> losty, something wrong with 10.10?
[00:52] <ubuntuCEO> r0fs3ck5, i think if i remember (3yrs ago) it works
[00:53] <SegFaultAX> robin0800: Thanks mate. Appreciate your guidance.
[00:53] <r0fs3ck5> ubuntuCEO: you could give it a go but you may find it needs some extra configuration.
[00:53] <eipi-1> mattk, do you see a grub boot menu on startup? if not hold down shift key while booting
 nope, just wondering if which version to stick to until LTS next year
[00:53] <mattk> eipi-1: no. I can't even see the bios screen
[00:54] <tanath> losty, methinks 10.10 is best so far
[00:54] <eipi-1> FisheDuJour, any results on that?
[00:54] <eipi-1> mattk, oh :/ wait. you DO have terminal with live boot from usb but no bios screen??
[00:55] <mattk> eipi-1: yeah. Weird huh.
[00:55] <losty> nice one, im having problems getting my web cam to work, apart from that all seems ok on 11.04 <tanath>
[00:55] <b3gott3n> i was off the screen
[00:55] <b3gott3n> did you say anything?
[00:55] <losty> one other seems to be turning off bluetooth by default, which i cant seem to figure out
[00:55] <b3gott3n> were you able to fix it?
[00:55] <eipi-1> mattk, strangest thing i've ever heard...
[00:55] <Alotesnivek> Nope, i was waiting on you. and no, nothing yet
[00:56] <b3gott3n> sorry
[00:56] <b3gott3n> it shows volume is up and shows the device?
[00:56] <eipi-1> mattk, is the ubuntu version of your install the same as the liveusb?
[00:56] <Alotesnivek> No, it's not showing the device
[00:56] <b3gott3n> ah ok
[00:56] <tanath> losty, prob?
[00:56] <b3gott3n> this is the problem
[00:56] <mattk> eipi-1: yeah. I used ubiquity through ssh to install it
[00:57] <Alotesnivek> KK
[00:57] <tanath> losty, which release(s) doesn't it work on?
[00:57] <mattk> eipi-1: I want to install server but this is the only live usb that I've been able to get to work
[00:57] <FisheDuJour> eipi-1: Going back to rebooted IRC.
[00:57] <losty> im on 11.04. havent tried it on any other <tanath>
[00:57] <Gomaaz> somebody with yaboot experience here :/?
[00:58] <losty> im using a sony laptop VGN SZ5MN model, i have the windows drivers but cant seem to get it to work <tanath>
[00:58] <nom_mon> hello
[00:58] <Firefishe> eipi-1: Well, I dunno...
[00:58] <nom_mon> i have a few ubuntu q's
[00:58] <Phong_> hi guys, is wine realy good ?
[00:58] <tanath> losty, what app you using?
[00:58] <r0fs3ck5> ubuntuCEO: maybe try this: https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150098879386924
[00:58] <jamiewan> ! ask | nom_mon
[00:59] <Firefishe> eipi-1: I had to reboot, and tried wicd-client to connect, but although it listed the same ssid's available as nm-applet, it wouldn't connect to them.
[00:59] <nom_mon> thanks
 eh?? not sure what you mean by app.. but anything, like cheese or skype, or even web site to detect cam, its doesnt seem to pick it up
[00:59] <Firefishe> eipi-1: So I reinitialized nm-applet, and here we are.
[00:59] <mattk> eipi-1: I can remote into the xp partition but that's about it
 ive tried system > administration  > additional drivers, but it doesnt pick up anything
[01:00] <losty> only display drivers
[01:00] <eipi-1> Firefishe, huh? what does tail/wicd say when trying to connect via wicd?
[01:00] <nom_mon> When i open up ubuntu 11.04 i log in, and it shows blank except the background and mouse. using wubi on windows 7
[01:00] <b3gott3n> lshw -c sound
[01:00] <Firefishe> eipi-1: just a sec
[01:01] <nom_mon> voice
[01:01] <r0fs3ck5> ubuntuCEO: and the only place I could find your drivers is here: http://www.sattech.us/forums/index.php?topic=13858.msg78567
[01:01] <eipi-1> mattk, 'remote into xp partition'? means booting windows and remoting to that?
[01:01] <mattk> eipi-1: yeah
[01:01] <nom_mon> hello>
[01:01] <nom_mon> ?*
[01:01] <Alotesnivek> says u should run as a super user, wtf ever that means, but i have a list of info now
[01:02] <mattk> eipi-1: I can't see the screen. Just adjust grub to boot xp by default and then remote in from win7
[01:02] <MagicJ> my system tells me that I have 17 packages that can be upgraded etc, every time I log on.  It comes from the mnotd file but if I clear it it comes back.  Howveer, when I run apt-get upgrade there is nothing done - what's happening here
[01:02] <jamiewan> nom_mon, just have to be patient and ask question every 5 or 10 mins if noone answers
[01:02] <nom_mon> kk thanks sorry for being impatient
[01:02] <ubuntuCEO> r0fs3ck5, thx, i will try the fb page at home later
[01:02] <b3gott3n> you see your sound card?
[01:02] <tanath> losty, yeah that's for video drivers. cheese is ok but there's other apps for webcams
[01:02] <Alotesnivek> Yeah,
[01:02] <b3gott3n> aslamixer
[01:02] <b3gott3n> is you mic muted?
[01:03] <r0fs3ck5> ubuntuCEO: I suggest you grab the linux drivers instead of the osx ones.
[01:03] <jamiewan> Alotesnivek, super user means put" sudo " in fromt of your command
[01:03] <Alotesnivek> ohh okay
[01:03] <eipi-1> mattk, pretty interesting setup. i have to ask again: you actually see a terminal on the screen of that machine with a liveusb ubuntu?
 cheese doesn't even pick it up.. not sure if im missing a trick
[01:03] <jamiewan> it makes you the root user for a short period of time
[01:03] <tanath> losty, seen this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[01:03] <Firefishe> k
[01:04] <b3gott3n> is your mic muted?
[01:04] <jamiewan> losty, ive found that reinstalling gstreamer fixes my webcam
[01:04] <ubuntuCEO> the australia page : http://support-au.canon.com.au/EN/search?v%3aproject=ABS-EN&binning-state=model%3d%3dPIXMA%20MP210%0Amenu%3d%3dDownload%0Aos%3d%3dLinux& PAGE NOT FOUND !
[01:04] <Alotesnivek> No, my mic is not muted.
[01:04] <nom_mon> When i open up ubuntu 11.04 i log in, and it shows blank except the background and mouse. using wubi on windows 7
[01:04] <mattk> eipi-1: yeah. I can see the ubuntu load screen too. When it happened I almost crapped my pants. I don't know what's wrong with it.
[01:04] <Phong_> i have question: why can't they make WINE to run 100% to run pc softwares?
 yea tried it, thats where i got cheese from
[01:04] <Phong_> is that complicated?
[01:05] <tanath> losty, http://community.linuxmint.com/hardware/view/39
[01:05] <Firefishe> eipi-1: Here's the tail/wicd output:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/616226/
[01:05] <eipi-1> mattk, what version of ubuntu is that liveusb? natty? 32/64bit? desktop/server/alternate?
[01:05] <LubuntuGuy> hello.. is anyone here using lxde ?
[01:06] <klown> why would you want to run every windows program in linux, kind of defeats the purpose of running linux.
[01:06] <b3gott3n> i don't think you answered my question... can you get the mic to work outside of skype?
[01:06] <losty> jamiewan thanks, umm.. how do i reinstall gstreamer? (sorry, still a complete noob)
[01:06] <Alotesnivek> No, I cannot get the mic to work on anything.
[01:06] <klown> Alotesnivek, what kind of mic?
[01:06] <losty> tanath i tried those drivers, it installed, but cheese wont pick up.. :(
[01:06] <losty> not sure if its for mint only
[01:07] <mattk> eipi-1: natty 32 desktop
[01:07] <losty> but looked to be working for debian
[01:07] <Alotesnivek> Andrea - anti-noise NC-95
[01:07] <tanath> losty, nah, mint is based on ubuntu
[01:07] <tanath> IIRC
[01:07] <w30> Phong_, because Steve Ballmer won't tell the wine people  how so they have to figure it out on their own
[01:07] <jamiewan> losty, try thru synaptic package manager and type gstreamer into search bar
[01:07] <klown> Alotesnivek, sorry, I should have been more specifc.  USB?
[01:07] <sabiancrash_cgx> I am trying to figure out how to troubleshoot a borked grub .97 on 9.04 that just hangs at the Grub loading, please wait screen.  Its a VM disk and has only 2 partitions and they are in the correct order.  Tried using a live CD to chroot to upgrade it to grub 2 (grub-pc) but that hangs on Generating Core.img.  I am running out of ideas
[01:07] <jamiewan> see if its installed
[01:07] <Alotesnivek> No, Audio jack.  Sorry.
[01:07] <losty> thanks jamiewan il give that a shot
[01:07] <yassine_hell_> hey, can anyone help me, im trying to setup hamachin but im getting "dpkg: error processing logmein-hamachi (--install):
[01:07] <yassine_hell_>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[01:07] <yassine_hell_> Processing triggers for ureadahead ...
[01:07] <yassine_hell_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:07] <yassine_hell_>  logmein-hamachi
[01:07] <FloodBot1> yassine_hell_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:07] <yassine_hell_> "
[01:08] <klown> lol.
[01:08] <eipi-1> Firefishe, sounds pretty succsessful :/
[01:08] <klown> !pastebin | yassine_hell_
[01:08] <tanath> jamiewan, apparently the cam isn't even seen
[01:08] <jamiewan> oh
[01:08] <jamiewan> is it built in or usb?
[01:08] <losty> its built in
[01:08] <klown> Alotesnivek, are exernal speakers working?
[01:08] <sabiancrash_cgx> Not sure if this is a good place to ask grub questions
[01:08] <jamiewan> losty, what type computer
[01:09] <nom_mon> When i open up ubuntu 11.04 and log in, it shows blank except the background and mouse. using wubi on windows 7
[01:09] <Alotesnivek> Yes, they work fine. Even the speakers on the mic headset work fine. Just the mic doesnt work.
[01:09] <losty> im using a sony laptop VGN SZ5MN model
[01:09] <yassine_hell_> anyone?
[01:09] <eipi-1> mattk, theres somthing called chroot to change grub settings on another install, but i'm no expert in that.
[01:09] <Firefishe> eipi-1: 'fraid not.  When I brought it up, it killed nm-applet, but it still showed the connection.  I disconnected it, then tried to reconnect using wicd-client.  No dice.  Guess nm-applet's the bomb for now.
[01:09] <klown> Alotesnivek, sounds like your mic is muted to me.
[01:09] <sabiancrash_cgx> eipi-1, yah, I have been down that path without any luck
[01:10] <mattk> eipi-1: yeah I did that. Where is the menu.list located or does grub not work that way anymore?
[01:10] <Alotesnivek> Well I don't have it muted on anything. Nor is it showing up any longer within the audio preferences.
[01:10]  * sabiancrash_cgx didn't notice there was two grub conversations going
[01:11] <sabiancrash_cgx> mattk, you having grub issues as well?
[01:11] <mattk> not really but I want to change the default to xp
[01:11] <Raikia> torsthaldo,
[01:12] <sabiancrash_cgx> ahh, piece of cake
[01:12] <Raikia> Sorry, didn't mean to say that
[01:12] <eipi-1> mattk, grub2 is not working with menu.lst anymore. it generates a grub.cfg that should not be changed. its configured over /etc/default/grub
[01:13] <mattk> eipi-1: so how do I change the list of OS's?
[01:13] <b3gott3n> in skype under options
[01:13] <b3gott3n> what driver does it say is the input?
[01:13] <jamiewan> losty, whats the output from   lspci   look for webcam there, pastebin the output
[01:13] <Alotesnivek> Under skype, it just says that i'm using pulse audio, and to refer to it's options.
[01:13] <jadams> I've got some issues with my graphics driver on my laptop
[01:14] <jamiewan> losty, sorry dmesg not lspci
[01:14] <jadams> it's an nvidia card.  It won't resume from suspend, and in a console/vim it will frequently fail to update tiles of the screen
[01:14] <eipi-1> Firefishe, there is an option to remove network-manager, to make sure it makes no trouble with wicd, but it may result in no working nm and you had to manually configure wpa_supplicant, which is a pain :/
[01:14] <jadams> haven't ever seen that error anywhere but in a gnome-terminal
[01:14] <losty> jamiewan sorry to be a pain, whats the command i type into terminal?
[01:14] <jadams> I'm pretty confused
[01:14] <jamiewan> losty, dmesg
[01:14] <jamiewan> and look for an entry for your camera
[01:15] <r0fs3ck5> ubuntuCEO: there are the instructions from that fb link http://paste.ubuntu.com/616231/
[01:15] <sabiancrash_cgx> mattk, did you check out this : http://www.joewein.net/blog/2009/11/28/fix-windows-as-default-boot-on-ubuntu-9-10-with-grub2-loader/
[01:15] <klown> Alotesnivek, which version of ubuntu are you running?
[01:15] <losty> thanks jamiewan doing now
[01:15] <Alotesnivek> Klown, Natty, 11.04
[01:15] <b3gott3n> ok what is pulse audio?
[01:15] <b3gott3n> do you know?
[01:16] <eipi-1> mattk, well thats another place (i dont like that new configuration of grub2) but there is still the problem that the final update grub only works for the actual installation. mom
[01:16] <jamiewan> losty, there will be lots of stuff but look it over and try find your camera there
[01:16] <Alotesnivek> Pulse Audio is the audio controller that comes with natty, as far as i know.
[01:16] <Firefishe> eipi-1: Yes, I've heard of that.  I'm going to stick with nm-applet, continue to suppress kde's own nm, and use the underlying gnome connection scheme.  I'm hoping future releases will deal with this.  Future kernel release may deal with this issue, although I'll probably have another computer by then.
[01:16] <Huene_> Does Natty periodically search for wireless networks while it's connected to one? I seem to be having lag spikes that suggest something like that is hapening
[01:16] <Huene_> happening
[01:16] <b3gott3n> do you want to fix it or remove it?
[01:17] <mattk> eipi-1: I'll check that out
[01:17] <dasilentprince> exit
[01:17] <Huene_> are you asking me or someone else b3gott3n?
[01:17] <Alotesnivek> I would prefer to fix it, without pulse audio, i would have no sound at all.
[01:17] <w30> jadams, I had problems like that when using compiz; I ran compiz --indirect-rendering and that fixed it. you can do that by editing your start compiz configuration or use Fusion Compiz options
[01:17] <sabiancrash_cgx> ahh, there is a grub channel, I will attempt to ask my question there
[01:18] <b3gott3n> you'd still have sound
[01:18] <eipi-1> Firefishe, didn't you say u have Lucid with some .32 kernel? maybe give mainline kernel or natty a shot. for example try some natty live system booting with turned off KS?
[01:18] <b3gott3n> its buggy though
[01:18] <jadams> w30, I'm using gnome-shell but perhaps something similar can happen there
[01:18] <b3gott3n> http://www.jeffsplace.net/node/12
[01:18] <b3gott3n> rtfm
[01:18] <b3gott3n> see what you think
[01:18] <r0fs3ck5> Alotesnivek: what is your sound device?
[01:18] <Firefishe> eipi-1: That sounds like a good deal.  I'll give it  a go in the near future.
[01:19] <Alotesnivek> Intekl, HD audio controller?
[01:19] <Alotesnivek> Intel *
[01:19] <eipi-1> Firefishe, wish you luck
[01:19] <Firefishe> eipi-1: I appreciate the fun today.  I'm gonna head out and play around the net for a while. :)
[01:19] <r0fs3ck5> Alotesnivek: should be supported.
[01:19] <Firefishe> eipi-1: Thanks, I appreciate it.
[01:19] <pvthodson> later
[01:19] <w30> jadams, are you using Unity?
[01:19] <Firefishe> bye for now
[01:20] <Alotesnivek> I assume, everything was working fine, then it stopped.  I don't know.... Just rather annoying.
[01:20] <losty> jamiewan ive checked the output, cant seem to locate cam
[01:20] <r0fs3ck5> Alotesnivek: what model headset do you have?
[01:20] <jadams> w30, no, I'm using gnome-shell / gnome3
[01:20] <yassine_hell_> can anyone help me with installing a progrm?
[01:20] <edbian> yassine_hell_: yeah
[01:20] <losty> its showing most of the other devices but not that, is there something in particular to look for jamiewan?
[01:20] <pvthodson> what are you trying to install
[01:20] <Alotesnivek> Andrea, Anti-Noise  NC-95
[01:20] <yassine_hell_> edbian hi :) , im trying to install hamachi
[01:20] <Huene_> Does Natty automatically check for new wireless networks while it's connected to one and can I turn it off?
[01:21] <w30> jadams, all right I gotsha now *smile*
[01:21] <edbian> yassine_hell_: link please?
[01:21] <r0fs3ck5> Alotesnivek: and your recording device does not show up in pulse-audio configuration?
[01:21] <pvthodson> there's some pretty good guide online for that even logmein's website has a decent how to
[01:21] <yassine_hell_> edbian http://paste.ubuntu.com/616235/
[01:21] <eipi-1> mattk, you still have that website i posted in the first place? go to your install partition in /etc/default/grub (from your liveusb) and change that line (named on the page)
[01:21] <yassine_hell_> edbian and to download the file : https://secure.logmein.com/US/labs/
[01:21] <losty> http://paste.ubuntu.com/616234/ jamiewan thats the pastebin if its helps
[01:21] <Alotesnivek> Nope, it sure doesnt.
[01:22] <jamiewan> losty, try this in terminal dmesg | grep -i uvc
[01:22] <r0fs3ck5> Alotesnivek: nothing at all under the 'input' tab?
[01:22] <jamiewan> looking more precisely that way
[01:22] <Alotesnivek> Nope, nothing.
[01:22] <jamiewan> want to see uvc video somewhere
[01:22] <mattk> eipi-1: I'm not sure what line I should use though since I can't see grub at the beginning
[01:22] <losty> ok, will
[01:22] <losty> will do*
[01:22] <Alotesnivek> Which is odd because before it showed an internal mic (which doesnt work anyways) as well as my external mic. Now nothing.
[01:22] <Huene_> is there a better place to ask about wireless natty behavior?
[01:22] <w30> jadams, my problem had to do with the advanced Nvidia 3d features and nothing to do with your case it seems, shrug.
[01:23] <semitones> I'm having trouble booting into ubuntu -- is anyone willing to check out a few pictures I took of the screen (once I get them uploaded)
[01:23] <edbian> yassine_hell_: k hang on
[01:23] <pteague> hmm... in the middle of running `aptitude safe-upgrade` & it was attempting to stop bind9 & then i get the message "rndc: connect failed: <IP_ADDRESS>#953: connection refused" :(
[01:23] <b3gott3n> its pulse audio
[01:23] <yassine_hell_> edbian take your time
[01:23] <edbian> yassine_hell_: Did you grab the .deb  ??
[01:23] <edbian> yassine_hell_: 32 vs. 64 bit ?
[01:23] <Alotesnivek> So drop pulse and install something else?
[01:24] <losty> it found something i think.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/616236/ thats the copy jamiewan
[01:24] <jawnah> pteague, are you sure that your bind daemon was running beforehand?
[01:24] <r0fs3ck5> Alotesnivek: that would not be wise
[01:24] <pteague> jawnah, no idea, but it's not continuing past that in the `aptitude safe-upgrade`
[01:24] <Alotesnivek> Any idea's on what to intsall
[01:25] <jawnah> try to start bind and see if it starts up
[01:25] <jagas> hey guys anybody here having problems with ati proprietary drivers and compiz?
[01:25] <edbian> yassine_hell_: You there?
[01:25] <r0fs3ck5> Alotesnivek: sudo apt-get install padevchooser
[01:25] <sabiancrash_cgx> yassine_hell_ : Not sure what they are referring to but thought I would point out that it says "Please make sure you have the LSB 3.0 (or above) package installed prior to attempt installing the product."
[01:25] <yassine_hell_> edbian yea
[01:25] <robin0800> b3gott3n, try alsamixer in a terminal pulse audio is built on top of this
[01:25] <Skunkwaffle> So Ubuntu (Lucid) keeps trying to remove my network-manager. Anyone have any idea why that is?
[01:25] <yassine_hell_> edbian i got the .deb file 32
[01:25] <edbian> yassine_hell_: You have 32 bit machine right
[01:25] <edbian> ?
[01:26] <yassine_hell_> edbian yep
[01:26] <yassine_hell_> sabiancrash_cgx so i should download this LSB 3.0 ?
[01:26] <jamiewan> ok so its picking up your camera, i'd say its a driver issue, probably go to sony site, punch in computer details or google it adding ubuntu to see if any drivers about for it
[01:26] <edbian> yassine_hell_: These are really easy to install.  You can double click it or you can sudo dpkg -i /path/to/it
[01:26] <Alotesnivek> Getting that now.
[01:26] <edbian> yassine_hell_: I think you already have LSB 3.0  but if you double click it the installer will tell you.  (gdebi is the installer)
[01:26] <tlf> I've been trying to reformat my ipod, but when attempting to do so via gparted I get the following: "Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: Error calling fsync(2) on /dev/sdb: Input/output error"
[01:26] <sabiancrash_cgx> yassine_hell_: According to their docs, yes, and according to your dpgk output, there are dependencies problems, maybe because of the mssing LSB 3.0
[01:27] <yassine_hell_> edbian i already did that
[01:27] <tlf> I've been having issues with windows and linux reading the drive ever since I tried to upgrade the ipod
[01:27] <edbian> yassine_hell_: What does the installer say?  What packages are missing?
[01:27] <ziikutv> Hi guys
[01:27] <yassine_hell_> edbian this what i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/616235/
[01:27] <b3gott3n> aslamixer is showing his mic
[01:27] <edbian> yassine_hell_: reading...
[01:27] <b3gott3n> i think the bug is in pulseaudio
[01:27] <yassine_hell_> ok
[01:27] <leigh> can anyone suggest an application i can use to find and download books? (frostwire, transmission, etc)
[01:27] <ziikutv> can anyone please help me? My window has no boarders (so no title, no minimize, maximise, close buttons) I have CCSM btw.
[01:27] <sabiancrash_cgx> yassine_hell_: clear as day ---> Package lsb-core is not installed.
[01:27] <ziikutv> leigh: Download books illegally or?
[01:27] <lacus> How can I assign a user to a specific desktop?
[01:27] <edbian> yassine_hell_: sudo apt-get install lsb-core
[01:28] <pteague> jawnah, ok, bind9 seemed to start up ok, but the aptitude process still isn't doing anything... debating ^c & restarting aptitude update, but not sure if that might break any install scripts
[01:28] <jamiewan> ziikutv, glitch log out and back in prob fix it
[01:28] <leigh> yes?
[01:28] <Skunkwaffle> leigh: sounds like you've already got a few
[01:28] <edbian> lacus: ?  Each user has their own set of desktops.  They do not share them to begin with
[01:28]  * sabiancrash_cgx wishes he had simple questions
[01:28] <lacus> I use an XMonad/Gnome hybrid, but I want my guest account to just use the default gnome
[01:28] <leigh> not yet
[01:28] <jawnah> pteague, so the process is actively hung?
[01:28] <robin0800> b3gott3n, try pulse audio volume control pavcontrol
[01:28] <leigh> i saw some oldies id like to find
[01:28] <b3gott3n> robin0800: its not me its for Alot
[01:29] <ziikutv> jaimewan: Tried it. i was able to fix till here... but before there was no taskbar and no launcher.. only desktop.. i fixed and got everything back except the window border any help?
[01:29] <b3gott3n> he quit
[01:29] <b3gott3n> Does anyone have a recommend for a terminal text web browser?
[01:29] <edbian> b3gott3n: w3m
[01:29] <b3gott3n> i hear emacs one is outdated
[01:29] <b3gott3n> W3m?  cool
[01:29] <yassine_hell_> edbian http://paste.ubuntu.com/616240/
[01:29] <woodworks> lynx?
[01:29] <edbian> lacus: Are you using gdm ?
[01:29] <yassine_hell_> edbian i should add that -f?
[01:29] <jamiewan> ziikutv, its happened to me lots and the log out always fixed it for me, sooo na i dunno,maybe restart
[01:29] <pteague> jawnah, htop is reporting 0.0% cpu & 2.1% mem & i've not yet returned to a shell prompt
[01:29] <losty> thanks jamiewan i found some windows drivers for it, but not sure how to install, also tanath had found some working for mint, which i had tried, with no luck
[01:30] <leigh> no ideas? :)
[01:30] <sabiancrash_cgx> vimperator is awesome but if your really ncurses only then lynx
[01:30] <jagas> anybody knows how to solve issues related to ati proprietary driver and compiz?
[01:30] <ziikutv> jamiewan: I did it so many times lol
[01:30] <lacus> edbian: nah, that's installed
[01:30] <Skunkwaffle> Hi everyone, I was hoping someone could help me if out if it's not too much trouble. It seems my updates are trying to remove my network-manager, but without it I can't get online. Anyone know how to fix this?
[01:30] <jawnah> pteague, I'm not sure then... the last thing from aptitude was that message about the bind9 connection refused from rndc?
[01:30] <losty> il keep trying and thank you so much for your time today jamiewan and also tanath - very patient!! thank you!
[01:30] <ziikutv> leigh: Just download via browser why do you need transmission (btw if you torrent, just use transmission)
[01:30] <b3gott3n> w3m vs lynx?
[01:30] <edbian> yassine_hell_: Do you have a broken package lying around?  It recommends we run sudo apt-get -f install    I recommend you follow its recommendation
[01:31] <yassine_hell_> edbian i guess its the hamachi package , i tried -f same thing
[01:31] <leigh> download via browser? i dont understand
[01:31] <pvthodson> exit
[01:31] <edbian> lacus: mmm, it keeps track of the last session each user logged in with.  That would be an easy way.  I don't know of a way to control what DE a user uses (or why you'd care to really)
[01:31] <lacus> edbian: I see the option to choose a session, but I want to force the session
[01:31] <billy21> hi im trying to use gtlck 0.4.2 but it keeps on saying i need a sound device what does this mean
[01:32] <lacus> edbian: I want to force it to make a user friendly account so that when someone steals my laptop, they will use it easily. (honeypot)
[01:32] <pteague> jawnah, yep
[01:32] <edbian> lacus: MMm, IDK.  autologin  ?
[01:32] <jawnah> pteague, :/ I don't want to recommend stopping the process, but I suspect that it is hung and may not continue on its own.
[01:32] <lacus> yeah, it's just not defaulting to the right session.
[01:32] <jawnah> pteague, has it actually started upgrades of packages or did it just stop in a pre-configuration stage?
[01:32] <lacus> I'm going to test that autologin though. thanks
[01:32] <edbian> yassine_hell_: just sudo apt-get -f install        that's it.  It fixes broken packages.  Installing lsb-core should work
[01:33] <edbian> lacus: OH, strange.  IDK
[01:33] <edbian> lacus: Never had that problem! :P
[01:33] <tlf> I've been trying to reformat my ipod, but when attempting to do so via gparted I get the following: "Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: Error calling fsync(2) on /dev/sdb: Input/output error"
[01:33] <yassine_hell_> edbian ah ok
[01:33] <tlf> I've been having issues with windows and linux reading the drive ever since I tried to upgrade the ipod
[01:33] <edbian> yassine_hell_: What does it output?
[01:33] <billy21> hi im trying to use gtlck 0.4.2 but it keeps on saying i need a sound device what does this mean
[01:33] <yassine_hell_> edbian its installing many stuff now
[01:33] <yassine_hell_> edbian lsb stuff
[01:33] <edbian> yassine_hell_: You had broken packages
[01:34] <pteague> jawnah, already configured a bunch of things... new kernel, libpam, apt-utils, libisc60, libdns64, libbind9-60, etc
[01:34] <yassine_hell_> edbian i guess :s
[01:34] <edbian> yassine_hell_: oh good.  Wanna pastebin it?  You're fast with pastebin
[01:34] <yassine_hell_> xD
[01:34] <jawnah> pteague, ew ;/
[01:34] <jawnah> pteague, I think someone a little bit more experienced might need to assist you.
[01:34] <pteague> k
[01:34] <yassine_hell_> edbian http://paste.ubuntu.com/616242/
[01:34] <troy-> how can i figure out the last time apt-get update ran?
[01:34] <edbian> yassine_hell_: so far so good
[01:35] <jamiewan> troy-, run update manager it should teell you when last run
[01:35] <yassine_hell_> edbian ok what now
[01:35] <sabiancrash_cgx> no love in #grub
[01:35] <yassine_hell_> edbian i run that deb file?
[01:35] <edbian> yassine_hell_: yeah try it again
[01:35] <yassine_hell_> sec
[01:35] <troy-> jamiewan: i don't have a UI on this install
[01:35] <billy21> could someone help please im trying to use gtlck 0.4.2 but it keeps on saying i need a sound device what does this mean
[01:36] <sabiancrash_cgx> redoing this server is going to make me cry
[01:36] <yassine_hell_> edbian http://paste.ubuntu.com/616245/  hmmm? done?
[01:37] <edbian> yassine_hell_: Looks good.  Can you run it?  Does it show up in the menu ?
[01:37] <Roasted> Has anybody used zoneminder? Having some issues with an IP camera...
[01:37] <yassine_hell_> edbian thats the problem, cant find it
[01:37] <edbian> sabiancrash_cgx: Not that I can help but.  What is the issue?
[01:37] <edbian> yassine_hell_: run logmein-hamachi   (just a guess at the name)
[01:38] <billy21> could someone help please im trying to use gtlck 0.4.2 but it keeps on saying i need a sound device what does this mean
[01:38] <Slugma> hey everyone
[01:38] <semitones> can someone take a look at this grub entry and see if it is sane? I'm not sure what the "msdos" stuff is, and why it says "ext2" when the partition is ext4. The partition will not boot up, by the way. http://imgur.com/XTcQD
[01:38] <Slugma> just wondering, what's the influence on removing ubuntu-desktop?
[01:39] <RevSpecies116> OKies - having dep-hell issues, people
[01:40] <edbian> yassine_hell_: hamachid
[01:40] <Juest> hi again, i am on 11.04 10.10 upgrade
[01:40] <sabiancrash_cgx> edbian: I have a ubuntu 9.04 install on a virtualbox VM that hangs at the Grub loading, please wait screen
[01:40] <Skunkwaffle> Hi everyone, I was hoping someone could help me if out if it's not too much trouble. It seems my updates are trying to remove my network-manager, but without it I can't get online. Anyone know how to fix this?
[01:40] <RevSpecies116> can't install hicolor=icon-theme, as apt-get has 2 conflicts [error installing]
[01:40] <RevSpecies116> halevt and xcolor are causing intractable issues
[01:40] <Juest> and i am having too many dependences and setting up errors
[01:40] <billy21> could someone help please im trying to use gtlck 0.4.2 but it keeps on saying i need a sound device what does this mean
[01:40] <edbian> sabiancrash_cgx: Have you tried re-installing grub to the MBR??
[01:41] <sabiancrash_cgx> edbian: I have checked the partition priority, I have reinstalled grub, and have even tried upgrading to grub 2
[01:41] <Slugma> guys, what is the real influence of removing ubuntu-desktop? Does anyone know?
[01:41] <losty> jamiewan tanath im not sure if its because im using kernal 2.6.39 and the drivers were for 2.6.30 http://www.palmix.org/r5u870-en.html
[01:41] <tanath> losty, that could do it
[01:41] <Juest> Slugma: none, is a metapackage
[01:41] <billy21> slugma none
[01:41] <RevSpecies116> Slugma: it will prevent you from  upgrading ubuntu to next release if removed
[01:41] <ziikutv> whats the terminal command to logout
[01:41] <edbian> yassine_hell_: You have a readme in /opt/logmein-hamachi/
[01:42] <Slugma> RevSpecies116, that's what I though. but I can get it again later, no?
[01:42] <edbian> sabiancrash_cgx: Re-installed grub how?
[01:42] <sabiancrash_cgx> edbian: when I attempt to upgrade to grub2 in a chroot from a livecd it hangs using 100% cpu on Generating core.img
[01:42] <Juest> yeah
[01:42] <losty> tanath, is there a safe way of going back to kernal 2.6.30 from .39?
[01:42] <RevSpecies116> possibly, Slugma
[01:42] <edbian> sabiancrash_cgx: I think the HDD is dying
[01:42] <Juest> Slugma: ys
[01:42] <edbian> sabiancrash_cgx: That's my guess
[01:42] <sabiancrash_cgx> edbian: its a vm
[01:42] <tanath> losty, install it, and choose it from grub when booting
[01:42] <Juest> more than that RevSpecies116,  we have troubles with desktop
[01:42] <sabiancrash_cgx> virtualbox
[01:42] <edbian> sabiancrash_cgx: mmmmm
[01:42] <billy21> slugma none
[01:43] <billy21> could someone help please im trying to use gtlck 0.4.2 but it keeps on saying i need a sound device what does this mean
[01:43] <edbian> sabiancrash_cgx: There could still be a hdd error.  At the end of the day the VM is on the hdd too
[01:43] <RevSpecies116> OKies, yes - apt-get install issues within ubuntu 11.04 from an upgrade from 10.10
[01:43] <losty> ok, il give it a twirl, im using wubi, not sure if it will have an affect tanath, thanks
[01:43] <RevSpecies116> two are cludging it up - halevt and xcolor...
[01:43] <sabiancrash_cgx> the host OS is fine, I don't doubt there could be a bit level error in the vdk but it its all software
[01:43] <Juest> more than that
[01:44] <edbian> sabiancrash_cgx: I don't know.  Strange error.  Sounds like hardware to me
[01:44] <RevSpecies116> and those two are preventing apt-get from installing hicolor-icon-themes
[01:44] <Juest> more than that  we have troubles with desktop-file-utils
[01:44] <Juest> when we tired to inst synaptics+
[01:44] <sabiancrash_cgx> edbian, I could move the vm to another machine and test
[01:44] <Juest> yeah, it was uninstalled
[01:44] <Juest> ...
[01:45] <tlf> I cannot do any kind of reformatting or anything of my ipod
[01:45] <edbian> sabiancrash_cgx: yep.  You really don't wanna re-install this server.  Do you have backups?
[01:45] <yassine_hell_> edbian back sorry had a lil aMsn problem, thx for the help ima go read the ReadMe ^^
[01:45] <edbian> yassine_hell_: Did you find it?
[01:45] <Juest> ummm
[01:45] <yassine_hell_> edbian yep
[01:45] <tlf> I've been trying to reformat my ipod, but when attempting to do so via gparted I get the following: "Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: Error calling fsync(2) on /dev/sdb: Input/output error"
[01:45] <tlf> I cannot do any kind of reformatting or anything of my ipod
[01:46] <sabiancrash_cgx> but hopes are near 0 as I think the issue lies inside the vdk.  I have backups but they all are experiencing this problem, I am trying to look for one farther back as the ones I have are recent
[01:46] <RevSpecies116> Is there a way of resolving why halevt and xcolor are blocking further apt-get installs?
[01:46] <yassine_hell_> edbian "hamachi login" to loging
[01:46] <edbian> yassine_hell_: Good :)
[01:46] <yassine_hell_> edbian thx :D
[01:46] <edbian> sabiancrash_cgx: Sorry to hear that :(  Good luck!
[01:46] <edbian> yassine_hell_: sure
[01:46] <billy21> could someone help please im trying to use gtlck 0.4.2 but it keeps on saying i need a sound device what does this mean
[01:46] <billy21> could someone help please im trying to use gtlck 0.4.2 but it keeps on saying i need a sound device what does this mean
[01:47] <Juest> and is there a way to fix every apt-get try to install?
[01:47] <edbian> Juest: sudo apt-get -f install
[01:47] <sabiancrash_cgx> billy21, assuming you already googled the error
[01:47] <edbian> Juest: fixes broken packages
[01:47] <billy21> yep
[01:47] <sabiancrash_cgx> did you pastebin your output
[01:47] <RevSpecies116> edbian: and which packages do we find out are broken
[01:48] <foobarbecue> Is there a way to call gnu screen, passing it a program to start immediately?
[01:48] <Juest> yeah, i think i get nothing
[01:48] <edbian> RevSpecies116: sudo apt-get -f install attempts to fix all packages and get the package manager back to a working state.  You don't have to know
[01:48] <Evanescence> what is it .gvfs under user home directory ?
[01:48] <edbian> Juest: You get nothing?  What do you mean?
[01:49] <edbian> Juest: four 0's ?  upgraded, installed, remove, not upgraded
[01:49] <sabiancrash_cgx> Evanescence: google... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GVFS
[01:49] <Evanescence> sabiancrash_cgx: thanks
[01:50] <sabiancrash_cgx> I still don't understand how in 2011 people still fail to perform a basic internet search before asking questions
[01:51] <RevSpecies116> ahhh, okies, edbian
[01:51] <semitones> is 744 a good chmod for a public directory on the internet?
[01:51] <edbian> RevSpecies116: :)
[01:51] <trans> hello guys I want to install ubuntu on my dell xps, but they haven't partitioned the system and only 1 drive is available, how to install ubuntu along side windows in the same partition without affecting windows? thanks in advance
[01:51] <Evanescence> sabiancrash_cgx: because we are used to ask, some habit in society is changed and affecting us
[01:52] <edbian> trans: There are two ways to install alongside.  The first is wubi (which does not repartition) and is a bit of a hack.  The second is a proper install.  You do partition, you do not affect windows.
[01:52] <edbian> trans: Both can be achieved by downloading and using the live CD.  http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[01:52] <Skunkwaffle> You're probably right, but I think www.LMGTFY.com really needs to get more traffic
[01:53] <OneWave> aloha
[01:53] <sakuragno> hi
[01:53] <sakuragno> :D
[01:54] <trans> edbian : I saw an option install along side with windows but was afraid I loose the data so quit the installation, I don't want to install with wubi, "install alongside windows" means will it install without affecting the rest of  the system?
[01:54] <OneWave> im trying to install diablo 2 in wine and having trouble. would anyone help me?
[01:54] <sakuragno> do someone should help me with ubuntu10.10 canon pixima mp160 and scanners problem?
[01:54] <fester77> 1
[01:54] <fester77> 2
[01:54] <fester77> 3
[01:54] <OneWave> lol i see im not the only one in here for tech support :P
[01:54] <edbian> trans: install alongside means it will install without affecting the rest of the system.  Yes.  Don't use wubi
[01:54] <edbian> :)
[01:54] <sabiancrash_cgx> trans, make a disk image of your drive before to be safe
[01:54] <edbian> OneWave: Everybody is here for that
[01:54] <edbian> 4
[01:54] <sabiancrash_cgx> that way if you fubar the drive, you can restore
[01:55] <w30> trans, the only Windows thing to do is run defrag in windows to move all the Windows files to one area.
[01:55]  * edbian can I have a little more
[01:55] <sakuragno> please ... i'm goin crazy with the scangear :P
[01:55] <trans> sabiancrash_cgx: its new system, just don't wanna break it so early
[01:55] <fester77> im on kubuntu can i ask away in here anyway?
[01:55] <sabiancrash_cgx> trans, hence the disk image
[01:55] <OneWave> so I insert the Install disk, CD to it in the terminal and run " wine /media/INSTALL/setup.exe"... it runs but keeps asking me to insert the install disk which is already inserted
[01:56] <edbian> fester77: yes
[01:56] <sabiancrash_cgx> if you break it, a restore is just a few mins away
[01:56] <edbian> OneWave: whoa, what?
[01:56] <OneWave> im trying to install diablo 2 in wine
[01:56] <sabiancrash_cgx> trans use clonezilla and an external drive
[01:56] <trans> w30 : wouldn't the ubuntu installer do that automatically
[01:56] <sabiancrash_cgx> that way you can learn in peace
[01:56] <edbian> OneWave: oh, hahahaha  I was just talking to someone else how to install Ubuntu
[01:57] <OneWave> hehe
[01:57] <edbian> OneWave: You should ask in #winehq most likely
[01:57] <sabiancrash_cgx> trans, the other option is to use ubuntu in a virtualbox VM
[01:57] <trans> sabiancrash_cgx: thanks for the information
[01:57] <Lenin_Cat> For some reason I am downloading at insanely slow speeds.
[01:57] <edbian> trans: It does make a backup for you.  No
[01:57] <w30> trans,  I don't think so
[01:57] <OneWave> thanks edbian
[01:57] <edbian> OneWave: sure
[01:57] <ferlegend> hey
[01:57] <ferlegend> how r u
[01:57] <ferlegend> all
[01:57] <tlf> I've been trying to reformat my ipod, but when attempting to do so via gparted I get the following: "Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: Error calling fsync(2) on /dev/sdb: Input/output error"
[01:57] <trans> sabiancrash_cgx: I don't want to start OS twice, so want to dual boot
[01:58] <ferlegend> hey
[01:58] <Skunkwaffle> ferlegend: better than someone who sucks farts out of a cyclops
[01:58] <Juest> ummm, edbian: we are getting same cludgiing packages
[01:58] <ferlegend> I'm use  trisquel
[01:58] <trans> w30 : thanks for the info
[01:58] <OneWave> im an irc nub... how do i change to #winehq channel?
[01:58] <RevSpecies116> edbian: still having an error with apt-get even with -f command
[01:58] <sabiancrash_cgx> then I would recommend using clonezilla to make a clone of your existing drive, then run the nice little ubuntu installer and let it walk you through the process or use use gparted to manually set up your partitions
[01:59] <trans> edbian : thanks buddy for ur help
[01:59] <edbian> Juest: RevSpecies116 Are you two together?
[01:59] <edbian> trans: sure
[01:59] <w30> trans, rule of thumb is to use the respective operating system file tools on it's own files where possible and that means Mac, Linux, Windows, whatever
[01:59] <sabiancrash_cgx> I seem to remember the ubuntu installer actually doing a pretty good job walking you through resizing your ntfs partition
[01:59] <ferlegend> I'm use trisquel
[01:59] <ferlegend> do you know trsiquel ??
[01:59] <Juest> yes edbian, he's helping me with vnc
[01:59] <trans> w30 : yeah got it
[02:00] <semitones> what is the number equivalent to chmod drwxr-xr-x
[02:00] <sabiancrash_cgx> OneWave: /j #winhq
[02:00]  * Juest slaps RevSpecies116 around a bit with a large trout
[02:00] <edbian> Juest: RevSpecies116 Can you pastebin the output of something simple like sudo apt-get install airstrike
[02:01] <Juest> why airstrike?
[02:01] <Juest> hello package
[02:01] <ferlegend> why is aristrike?
[02:01] <Juest> i will post a pic
[02:01] <ferlegend> what is airstriack??
[02:01] <Juest> because is on a vm
[02:01] <edbian> Juest: just a random package
[02:01] <edbian> Juest: you send none will work right?
[02:01] <Juest> lol
[02:01] <Juest> ?
[02:01] <Juest> ??
[02:02] <edbian> Juest: The issue is what.  No packages will install?
[02:02] <Juest> no, they fail to configure
[02:02] <Juest> but some packages succed
[02:02] <edbian> Juest: Can you give me an example of one that failed and one that succeeded?
[02:04] <Juest> ok edbian
[02:04] <tlf> I've been trying to reformat my ipod, but when attempting to do so via gparted I get the following: "Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: Error calling fsync(2) on /dev/sdb: Input/output error"
[02:04] <Juest> better connect to my pc?
[02:05] <Juest> would you prefer to connect via vnc to my pc edbian?
[02:05] <edbian> tlf: I am guessing that your ipod hdd is physically broken. (squeaky wheel gets the grease)
[02:05] <edbian> Juest: I prefer not to actually.  I think it's important for you to learn
[02:05] <Juest> i know
[02:05] <Juest> just i say is better to get into vnc
[02:05] <tlf> hmm
[02:05] <Juest> because is way too complex to pastebin and is on a vm
[02:05] <rww> semitones: 755
[02:05] <edbian> Juest: no worries :)
[02:06] <Juest> too much text
[02:06] <edbian> Juest: You can copy / paste out of a vm
[02:06] <Juest> well, i got troubles with vbox addons
[02:06] <Juest> and how do i copy console?
[02:06] <Juest> i use gmouse
[02:07] <Juest> edbian...
[02:07] <zer010> Hello, all.
[02:07] <Lenin_Cat> For some reason I am downloading at insanely slow speeds. Can someone help me?
[02:07] <Juest> worse yet, i am low of battery
[02:07] <Juest> getting low
[02:07] <edbian> Juest: oh sorry. reading
[02:07] <sabiancrash_cgx> I think Juest just has problems
[02:07] <edbian> Juest: right click it and hit copy.
[02:07] <Juest> and have
[02:07] <Juest> is on console
[02:07] <edbian> Juest: ctrl + shift + c   also works
[02:08] <edbian> I don't even know what you're trying to pastebin to me!
[02:08] <edbian> Name me one package that did install and one that did not
[02:08] <edbian> Just the package names
[02:08] <zer010> I just have one quick question about which version of Ubuntu I should get.
[02:09] <edbian> zer010: either 10.04 (LTS) or 11.04 (current)
[02:09] <zer010> I want to set up an aged desktop to serve as a print server.
[02:09] <edbian> zer010: Probably then 10.04 server  (assuming you don't need a gui)
[02:10] <zer010> I don't need a lot of extras, so should I use the server edition or use the ALT for a CLI install.
[02:10] <edbian> zer010: You're building a server.  Might as well use server edition.  Somebody's gotta use it.
[02:10] <zer010> Lol
[02:11] <edbian> zer010: The ALT with CLI only is probably good too
[02:11] <edbian> The differences are so minor
[02:11] <zer010> I noticed that the server edition has a "server kernel" but it also has so many more options that I doubt I'll need.
[02:11] <sabiancrash_cgx> battery finally died for juest
[02:12] <Lenin_Cat> For some reason I am downloading at insanely slow speeds. Can someone help me?
[02:12] <sabiancrash_cgx> zer010, nice thing about server is that is quite modular, less is installed than with the desktop edition
[02:12] <sabiancrash_cgx> you install what you need
[02:12] <edbian> hahahah
[02:12] <djmaster2437> whats a good cloud os?
[02:12] <edbian> djmaster2437: ?  What do you mean?
[02:13] <semitones> rww: I'm on n4cht's server, trying to make my public_html folder not "forbidden" -- isn't 755 good for that?
[02:13] <djmaster2437> a linux cloud operating system
[02:13] <semitones> /noob at chmod
[02:13] <zer010> Thanks for the input, y'all.
[02:13] <edbian> djmaster2437: I don't know what a cloud operating system is
[02:14] <edbian> zer010: sure
[02:14] <zer010> I don't think that most people understand what a "cloud" is to begin with.
[02:14] <edbian> apparently not
[02:14] <djmaster2437> edbian, its like joli colud
[02:14] <djmaster2437> cloud
[02:14] <Skunkwaffle> Proud Clod
[02:15] <zer010> As for my issue, I think I'll go with the alt and apt-get anything else I need.^.^d
[02:15] <zer010> Y'all have a good day/night!
[02:16] <sabiancrash_cgx> djmaster2437, ChromeOS
[02:16] <edbian> djmaster2437: I know what the cloud is.
[02:16] <djmaster2437> sabiancrash_cgx, i will look at it
[02:17] <sabiancrash_cgx> or do what I do, just use Chrome on whatever OS you want
[02:17] <edbian> yeah I guess chromeOS
[02:17] <edbian> yeah
[02:17] <sabiancrash_cgx> I am screwed if Google ever shuts down ;)
[02:18] <edbian> ?  use bing
[02:18] <sabiancrash_cgx> lol, that would be a fun port, and going to a windows 7 phone. shoot me now
[02:18]  * edbian laughs and laughs
[02:18] <jamiewan> losty, did you install the latest kernel yet?
[02:19] <w30> djmaster2437, Cloud 9.0
[02:19] <losty> jamiewan i have the latest kernal, but it seems that the driver was for previous kernal
[02:19] <fester77> not really a pure ubuntu issue but i got a an installation on my windowsbox of dosbox and im trying to run a game now on dosbox in ubunto .... iǘe copied the dosbox.conf and just alterd it so c is media/whatever ... so far so good when launching DB its seems just like launcing it on windows .... now games that use imgmount cant find their cd even if the setup IS 100% right dosbox wise ....
[02:19] <kzman> hi
[02:20] <losty> i managed to find another driver, which says for higher kernal
[02:20] <ILOVEMAC> idk y people have issue with running ubuntu
[02:20] <losty> but im struggling to figure out how to install it http://www.palmix.org/r5u870-en.html
[02:20] <kzman> i hope you can helpme, when I click the icon in the top of a windows the borders disapear for all windows
[02:20] <edbian> kzman: I don't know what icon you're talking about but to get your borders back run compiz --replace&
[02:21] <losty> its a bit confusing, as not sure how to go about completing it jamiewan
[02:21] <jamiewan> losty, is that your cam?
[02:21] <SolidState> have an i3 desktop machine running natty and xsensors shows my two core temps at usually 30c and 22c is this normal?
[02:21] <ILOVEMAC> edbian: what linux's have u used
[02:21] <losty> jamiewan yes thats the one for it
[02:21] <edbian> ILOVEMAC: Ubuntu and Debian.  Wanna chat in #ubuntu-offtopic?  This channel is for technical support
[02:21] <jamiewan> u running 11.04 natty?
[02:22] <losty> yup
[02:22] <ILOVEMAC> yup
[02:22] <edbian> yup
[02:22] <ILOVEMAC> lol
[02:22] <losty> but for some odd reason its not running unity, it looks lke gnome??!
[02:22] <cmbro> anyone know why wicd wont connect to a secured wireless ap?
[02:23] <twizman> im having problems doing sudo apt-get update
[02:23] <twizman> im running jaunty
[02:23] <twizman> and it cannot find any archive.ubuntu.com jaunty stuff
[02:23] <nom_mon> When i open up ubuntu 11.04 i log in, and it shows blank except the background and mouse. using wubi on windows 7
[02:23] <twizman> what happened to it?
[02:23] <SolidState> cmbro, you need to specify something in a config file if i recall correctly
[02:23] <ILOVEMAC> edbian how do i chat in ubuntu-offtopic
[02:23] <edbian> ILOVEMAC: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:23] <jamiewan> losty,  hardware drivers, go into there tell it to search for drivers
[02:23] <ILOVEMAC> thxs
[02:24] <twizman> does anyone know why Jaunty has disappeared from archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists
[02:24] <w30> SolidState, my laptop reads temp1 44 deg gpu 55 deg
[02:24] <Skunkwaffle> cause it's old
[02:24] <cmbro> hmm, worked fine immediately before reinstalling, ill check it out tho thanks!
[02:24] <twizman> so what i can no longer use sudo apt-get update on Jaunty?
[02:25] <edbian> ILOVEMAC: I'm waiting...
[02:25] <nom_mon>  hello?
[02:25] <jamiewan> losty, when u installed u probably forgot to tick the download and install files while installing natty
[02:25] <losty> ive tried system > administration > additional drivers but it only shows me display drivers, nothing for webcam
[02:25] <edbian> nom_mon: hi
[02:26] <losty> ahh ok
[02:26] <nom_mon> hi
[02:26] <SolidState> w30, yea I have a dual core i3 and im just wondering why the temps although they are good are reading differently for each core.
[02:26] <nom_mon> can you help me?
[02:26] <nom_mon> When i open up ubuntu 11.04 i log in, and it shows blank except the background and mouse. using wubi on windows 7
[02:26] <clusterfusk> With a fresh 11.04 install, GrUB2 does not display.(Monitor turns off after system bios)  I'm currently booted to a live-cd and chrooted to the installed system to attempt to install grub legacy.  I'm getting this set of errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/616263/
[02:26] <jamiewan> losty, what kerenel u on atm?
[02:26] <djmaster2437> i dounloued joli cloud and put in a disk and it gave me a bad kernel what should i do
[02:27] <sakuragno> what can u tell me about sane-backends ??
[02:27] <w30> SolidState, I think the i3 core arch. lets one core loaf if not needed
[02:27] <sakuragno> please i dont know if they're safe or how to install them
[02:27] <losty> jamiewan im on 2.6.39-0-generic
[02:28] <sakuragno> what can u tell me about sane-backends ??
[02:28] <w30> SolidState, the idea is to save power I think.
[02:28] <SolidState> w30, I see,  wouldn't 'loafing' reduce heat?
[02:28] <nom_mon> can anyone help?
[02:28] <SolidState> err, I guess one is lower sorry not thinking for a sec
[02:29] <SolidState> this chipset it8720 is only recently supported afaik
[02:29] <nom_mon> When i open up ubuntu 11.04 i log in, and it shows blank except the background and mouse. using wubi on windows 7
[02:29] <sabiancrash_cgx> edbian: rsync time to zfs pool and then resetup server :(
[02:29] <w30> SolidState, you would think so in one core anyway maybe raise it in the one working the most.
[02:29] <edbian> sabiancrash_cgx: :/
[02:30] <SolidState> w30, natty brought working  proc temps and seems to be alot more stable on the i3
[02:30] <jamiewan> losty, ok so on your webcam page u linked earlier, go to the "this" link, download that file
[02:31] <jamiewan> needs the newer driver
[02:32] <clusterfusk> nom_mon: Be patient.  I've been waiting longer than you and only posted my question once so far.  Someone will get to you eventually. meanwhile, try google, then repost your question after several minutes.
[02:32] <losty> jamiewan i downloaded the new files, but the instructions seem a bit confusing??! unless i just install as normal?
[02:32] <nom_mon> ok thanks sorry
[02:33] <chicognu> Hi all. I have a scanned PDF file, and I want to convert it to .txt. or word, or any other text-like format ... How can I do that ?
[02:33] <sabiancrash_cgx> clusterfusk: Looks you are having network connectivity problems
[02:33] <jamiewan> losty, ok so try to install as u would first then
[02:34] <SolidState> clusterfusk, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:35] <rinkukokiri> So. does anyone have any solution for me to be able to drag my windows over to my other display?
[02:35] <jon8> sorry, but what is the crontab syntax to run something once a day at midnight?
[02:35] <rinkukokiri> I see you guys (i'm assuming the dev's are here) have made it all pretty, but still failed to provide this simple request
[02:35] <clusterfusk> sabiancrash_cgx: I'm connected well enough to chat here.
[02:36] <kzman> hi
[02:36] <scottlw> Need some help, < new to ubuntu, everytime i try to use the software center to install something, it keeps giving me a error that says "not connected to internet" but i am connected.
[02:36] <SolidState> jon8, hour 12 * everything else
[02:36] <kzman> how to close graphical sessions from a console in ubuntu?
[02:36] <ablyss> jon8: 0 1 * * * <command>
[02:36] <sabiancrash_cgx> jon8: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[02:36] <jon8> thank you
[02:36] <clusterfusk> nom_mon: read this and see if this helps: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1574854
[02:36] <jamiewan> rinkukokiri, patience man, if someone on here knows the answer they will get back to you
[02:36] <jon8> so..
[02:36] <jon8> @daily
[02:36] <jon8> does the same thing as 0 0 * * *
[02:36] <jon8> right?
[02:37] <sabiancrash_cgx> clusterfusk: do you have your sources.list ?
[02:37] <ridnlowmac> Evening everyone, im having problems with my mouse not responding to button clicks after about 30 seconds of being plugged in.. It will move the cursor fine just no clicks.. running 11.04 and the mouse is logitech mx revolution
[02:37] <jon8> and @midnight is the same thing as both of those :P
[02:37] <rinkukokiri> does anyone run ubuntu with dualheads?
[02:37] <losty> jamiewan there is no deb file to click and install, it seems i might have to make some directories and copy/move files
[02:38] <ablyss> jon8: yes
[02:38] <nom_mon> well, the problem is not the login screen it's after
[02:38] <sabiancrash_cgx> rinkukokiri: I rarely run ubuntu with any heads
[02:38] <clusterfusk> SolidState & sabiancrash_cgx: http://paste.ubuntu.com/616271/
[02:38] <Vilemaxim> any NCONF people around. Trying to setup a host with passive checks.
[02:38] <ablyss> jon8: just a different hour
[02:39] <clusterfusk> nom_mon: so, after logging in, your window manager and pannels do not appear?
[02:39] <danielbrown2> hey everybody!
[02:39] <SolidState> jon8, why ask questions you know the answe to?
[02:39] <jamiewan> losty, untar the file, and get back 2 me it say the steps on that webpage u linked also tho
[02:39] <nom_mon> yes
[02:39] <nom_mon> clusterfunk:yes
[02:40] <clusterfusk> nom_mon: how old is your video adapter?
[02:40] <steviewonder> heyyy!
[02:40] <nom_mon> umm, how do i check? i got my computer in 2009
[02:40] <losty> jamiewan have untarred - on the web site, Remeber that you need your kernel headers or sources installed!
[02:40] <losty> Download the needed archive from here.
[02:40] <losty> Untar it and go inside the new created folder:
[02:40] <losty> tar xvfz r5u870-0.10.1.tar.gz
[02:40] <losty> cd r5u870-0.10.1
[02:40] <FloodBot1> losty: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:40] <stevlau> After make install the Glibc2.11 Ubuntu 9.10 became unuseable and unbootable
[02:40] <losty> sorry didnt mean to flood
[02:41] <steviewonder> holaaaa
[02:41] <stevlau>  Recentery,inorder to lean android kernel devemenpent. Because Ubuntu9.10 only suport Glibc2.10 but android kernel need Glibc2.11 to use. I need to update the Glibc2.10 to 2.11. So I got the source code of Glibc2.11 form ubuntu.com.
[02:41] <stevlau>  Then I executed the 'configure', 'make' and 'make check' commands. Every thing was OK, but until I executed the 'make install' command . Ubuntu9.10 can not execute any program afer that. even the make uninstall or make clean command and all command unexecutable.
[02:41] <stevlau>  So I shutdown the computer and try to reboot the system. But it unbootable. it stoped at the ubuntu ring boot logo.
[02:41] <sabiancrash_cgx> clusterfusk: what happens if you do a nslookup archive.canonical.com
[02:41] <semitones> Something weird happens when I try to boot up ubuntu, any idea what's going on here?
[02:41] <semitones> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/384735/Boot.3g2
[02:42] <clusterfusk> nom_mon: try choosing "Ubuntu Classic" during login.  A button to show your choices of WMs should show up at the bottom of the screen between entering your username and entering your password.
[02:42] <steviewonder> http://browntechx.com/live/ is uber cool!!
[02:42] <acovrig> I am trying to use dansguardian, and squid either times out with a blank page, or times out getting the ip, or just plain blocks; anyone care to look at a pastebined .conf?
[02:42] <SolidState> clusterfusk, use sudo
[02:42] <jamiewan> losty, so open terminal,  cd to wherever its located like the page says, let me know when ur there we'll just follow the page see what happens
[02:42] <rinkukokiri> I realize the base problem is the different x servers in my setup... still, there should be a simple solution so that I can easily drag windows/icons/elements from one display to the other without reverting to a single x server.
[02:42] <SolidState> clusterfusk, are you root when doing that  command
[02:43] <clusterfusk> SolidState: Yes.  note the '#'
[02:43] <Vilemaxim> stevlau, do you know how to recover you system
[02:43] <Vilemaxim> stevlau, live cd.. chroot etc
[02:43] <SolidState> idk your sources are the same as mine pretty much
[02:43] <SolidState> is your dns working right?
[02:43] <nom_mon> ok, im going to try that. im using windows now, do i'm going to log off. thanks1
[02:43] <stevlau> I dont't known
[02:44] <sabiancrash_cgx> clusterfusk: It appears to be a dns resolution issue, please try my nslookup suggestion to see if you can resolve the addresses that are having trouble in your first paste
[02:44] <SolidState> clusterfusk, can you ping the apt-get update ip
[02:44] <steviewonder> peanuts are cool
[02:44] <Vilemaxim> stevlau, use my name when posting so I can find the message. Too many messages
[02:45] <clusterfusk> sabiancrash_cgx: ";; connection timed out; no servers could be reached"
[02:45] <sabiancrash_cgx> SolidState: ping is not always a reliable test
[02:45] <sabiancrash_cgx> clusterfusk: thats your issue
[02:45] <SolidState> k host then
[02:45] <sabiancrash_cgx> can you ping <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:45] <SolidState> host google.com
[02:45] <Vilemaxim> stevlau, not sure how to fix the glib problem
[02:45] <rinkukokiri> Considering that's the one thing that makes me want to finish blowing out my previous windows install and continue with my reinstall..  I hate going through the pain of installing windows/drivers/software and having to redo it every 6-8 mos, but unless Ubuntu stops trying to make their OS pretty, and starts adding requested functionality, people are going to keep going back to windows.
[02:45] <steviewonder> if you type google into google the internet will break.
[02:45] <steviewonder> its a proven fact
[02:45] <fester77> how can i create a network with my wifi ? this one is kubuntu and the other box is win xp
[02:45] <SolidState> k blind guy ;-P
[02:46] <steviewonder> so dont do that
[02:46] <sabiancrash_cgx> if you can ping <IP_ADDRESS> you need to make sure you have a reliable dns host setup in your livecd environment
[02:46] <Vilemaxim> stevlau, but if you need access to the install, you can use a live cd and mount your harddrive and then chroot to it
[02:46] <sabiancrash_cgx> <IP_ADDRESS> is a very reliable dns server
[02:46] <steviewonder> umm hello?
[02:46] <sabiancrash_cgx> <IP_ADDRESS> is another as well
[02:46] <rinkukokiri> so is <IP_ADDRESS> and <IP_ADDRESS>
[02:46] <SolidState> clusterfusk, cat /etc/resolve.conf
[02:46] <steviewonder> fml
[02:46] <Logan_> steviewonder: Stop trolling.
[02:46] <steviewonder> ?
[02:46] <SolidState> err resolv
[02:46] <steviewonder> huh
[02:47] <losty> jamiewan sorry took me a whike to figure out
[02:47] <clusterfusk> sabiancrash_cgx: Pings ip addresses just fine.  Is there a network config file I should copy to the chrooted environment?
[02:47] <losty> but i made it to the directory
[02:47] <stevlau> Vilemaxim:can i copy the files from other good ubuntu 9.10 to my bad system to repair it?
[02:47] <steviewonder> idk what that means home boy
[02:47] <SolidState> clusterfusk, cat /etc/resolv.conf
[02:47] <jamiewan> losty, ok so u there now
[02:47] <djmaster2437> how do i fix W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0
[02:47] <losty> jamiewan im there now
[02:47] <steviewonder> logan: STOP BEING RUDE
[02:47] <sabiancrash_cgx> clusterfusk: listen to SolidState
[02:47] <steviewonder> GOD
[02:47] <Vilemaxim> stevlau, that might work... you might lose data
[02:47] <rinkukokiri> !caps
[02:47] <steviewonder> sorry
[02:48] <SolidState> clusterfusk, should say on one line each search your ip nameserver your ip (if your router uses dhcp you can also specify the ip of your dns instead of your own ip
[02:48] <fester77> ...
[02:48] <losty> jamiewan the next bit
[02:48] <losty> With root privileges give this commands:
[02:48] <losty> make
[02:48] <losty> make install
[02:48] <losty> and then the command:
[02:48] <losty> modprobe r5u870
[02:48] <FloodBot1> losty: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:48] <steviewonder> AALL CAPS IS MORE EMPOWERING
[02:48] <steviewonder> DUH
[02:48] <sabiancrash_cgx> sometimes I just hate the internet
[02:48] <jamiewan> losty, your in a terminal and in the r5u870-0.10.1 file?
[02:48] <steviewonder> SAME HERE HOM BOY
[02:48] <rinkukokiri> sometimes i just hate computers
[02:48] <maco> steviewonder: stop
[02:48] <SolidState> steviewonder, dont type in all caps here
[02:49] <djmaster2437> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0 what is this
[02:49] <steviewonder> ITS A FREE COUNTRY
[02:49] <rinkukokiri> not really steviewonder
[02:49] <SolidState> its an irc channel not a country
[02:49] <acovrig> ok, is this #ubuntu-ot?
[02:49] <clusterfusk> sabiancrash_cgx & SolidState:  "cat: /etc/resolve.conf: No such file or directory"  D:
[02:49] <akerl> obvious troll is obvious
[02:49] <djmaster2437> steviewonder,  shut up
[02:49] <steviewonder> UH IDK WHAT THAT IS SOOO YEAH
[02:49] <SolidState> clusterfusk, nano /etc/resolv.conf and follow my previous instructions.
[02:49] <losty> jamiewan im in terminal and in the same directory as the file
[02:49] <rinkukokiri> oh snap, he's like 12 and he just all over his keyboard
[02:49] <acovrig> anyone see anything wrong with http://pastebin.com/P8xdWA2d ?
[02:50] <jamiewan> losty, ok so now sudo make
[02:50] <fester77> anyone got a minute to help me?
[02:50] <clusterfusk> SolidState: forgive me, I'm a little loopy on pain pills.  what instructions?
[02:50] <SolidState> fester77, if you tell us the issue :-P
[02:50] <fester77> how can i create a network with my wifi ? this one is kubuntu and the other box is win xp
[02:50] <jamiewan> losty, sudo make install
[02:50] <SolidState> clusterfusk, scroll up. I told you exactly what to do
[02:50] <rinkukokiri> fester77, do you have a router?
[02:50] <fester77> i also like this (ubunto box) to share its internet
[02:50] <steviewonder> RUDE
[02:50] <jamiewan> losty, then sudo modprobe r5u870
[02:51] <fester77> the way my win7 boot does more or less
[02:51] <sabiancrash_cgx> clusterfusk add nameserver <IP_ADDRESS> to your /etc/resolv.conf
[02:51] <steviewonder> OMG IMMA CRY
[02:51] <fester77> no its just 2 laptop on adhoc wifi
[02:51] <Vilemaxim> steviewonder, you made your point.  LOL!
[02:54] <fester77> so in order to run linux i must purchase additional hardware ?
[02:55] <steviewonder> haha jk i have no clue what a mIRC is ... danielbrown just asked me about it
[02:55] <fester77> if it worked win7 to winxp i cant see why it cant work ubuntu to winxp
[02:55] <SolidState> clusterfusk, did you figure it out yet?
[02:55] <akerl> fester77: In order to run a network you need networking hardware... Like a router
[02:55] <maco> fester77: should be able to connect to ad hoc just fine
[02:55] <maco> akerl: not with an ad hoc network
[02:56] <Vilemaxim> fester77, what's not working
[02:56] <maco> fester77: i dont know if the graphical network tool for kubuntu can do it. maybe try network-manager-gnome? if not, definitely doable from command line
[02:56] <akerl> maco: True, but an ad hoc network isn't exactly the recommended way to do persistent home networking
[02:56] <maco> akerl: meh, ya work with what ya've got
[02:56] <clusterfusk> SolidState & sabiancrash_cgx:  no change after putting "nameserver <IP_ADDRESS>" in /etc/resolve.conf
[02:56] <rinkukokiri> fester77,  no.. it will just be easier for you to go out and get a router, hook it up to all your pc's and use that as the gateway to the internet instead of using a pc with 30 NIC's in it to do the same thing along with play wow, run a laggy firewall, unwittingly install microsoft xp antivirus 2011, etc...
[02:56] <sabiancrash_cgx> wrong file clusterfusk
[02:56] <jamiewan> losty, just cd to/dev and see if theres a folder video0
[02:56] <sabiancrash_cgx> resolv.conf
[02:56] <SolidState> clusterfusk, sudo ifdown eth0 sudo ifup eth0
[02:56] <sabiancrash_cgx> Might need to sober up first
[02:57] <SolidState> or actuaslly sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[02:57] <boaz> what ubuntu should I put on my macbook?
[02:57] <akerl> ubuntu ubuntu?
[02:57] <boaz> 64 or 32 bit?
[02:57] <fester77> maco how to i procced with setting up the adhoc ?
[02:57] <djmaster2437> SolidState,  can u help me with this error  W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0
[02:57] <jamiewan> boaz, natty on mine now all good macbook 5.1
[02:57] <SolidState> boaz, boot a live cd and type arch in to a command line
[02:57] <ultrixx> boaz: has it got a core 2 duo or later?
[02:57] <rinkukokiri> I agree with akerl .. go with ubuntu ubuntu.
[02:57] <akerl> boaz: What processor, how much RAM?
[02:57] <boaz> ultrixx: it's a core duo
[02:58] <boaz> akerl: 4gig
[02:58] <SolidState> akerl, what has ram got to do with it?
[02:58] <losty> jamiewan no folder called video0
[02:58] <boaz> sorry, I should have asked that question all at once, akerl. lol.
[02:58] <fester77> is there like a network manager like in windows ? ....
[02:58] <ultrixx> boaz: how much of the ram can you actually use in mac os? is it core duo  not core 2 duo?
[02:58] <jamiewan> losty, create one call in video0
[02:58] <sabiancrash_cgx> boaz: I would go with 64bit unless you have a reason to not
[02:58] <akerl> SolidState: with the difference between 32 or 64 bit OS? RAM and CPU are the prime hardware difference
[02:58] <maco> fester77: you can try using network-manager-gnome, or you can use "sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode Ad-Hoc" then "sudo iwconfig wlan essid yournetworkname" (if no WEP or WPA stuff. if you do need that stuff, i'll expand further)
[02:58] <SolidState> its called network-manager-gnome
[02:58] <jamiewan> losty, then go thru the process again make make install etc
[02:58] <clusterfusk> sabiancrash_cgx & SolidState: renamed file.  working now.  Thank you both very much.
[02:59] <steviewonder> heller?
[02:59] <boaz> ultrixx: not sure how much I can actually use. it's a core 2 duo
[02:59] <sabiancrash_cgx> clusterfusk: excellent
[02:59] <losty> jamiewan says permission denied
[02:59] <SolidState> akerl, (amount) of ram has nothing to do with processor architechture
[02:59] <ultrixx> boaz: core 2 duos are all 64 bit capable
[02:59] <losty> jamiewan i am logged on as full admin
[02:59] <akerl> SolidState: :-( He asked if he should install 32 or 64 bit ubuntu...
[02:59] <boaz> ok, thanks ultrixx
[02:59] <jamiewan> losty, try that mate, otherwise sorry dude but someone else might be able to help
[02:59] <djmaster2437> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net lucid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5A9A06AEF9CB8DB0 help me !
[02:59] <ultrixx> boaz: np
[02:59] <sabiancrash_cgx> SolidState: RAM has a lot to do with choosing between a 62/32bit OS
[02:59] <jamiewan> Loshki, yeah thats ok,
[02:59] <akerl> ^^
[02:59] <rinkukokiri> fester77, allright, here's community documentation on the subject, but I still recommend going out and finding/buying/taking/borrowing a router and placing that in between your cable modem and your pc's .....   anyway, here it is.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing
[02:59] <SolidState> how do you figure!?
[02:59] <jamiewan> losty, thats ok
[03:00] <SolidState> just curious...
[03:00] <fester77> how can we go private window in this chat? .... used to mirc .... xchat is too new for me
[03:00] <losty> ok thanks jamiewan
[03:00] <sabiancrash_cgx> If i have 8GB ram, I will lose the ability to leverage 4GB of that in a 32bit OS
[03:00] <akerl> SolidState: Because (especially on older processors lacking PAE, if you have 4+ gigs of RAM, a 32 bit OS can't use over 3.5ish of it
[03:00] <fester77> thx rinkukoiri
[03:00] <jamiewan> fester77, right click on there nick and open dialog
[03:00] <SolidState> if you have 8gb of ram, you are 99.9% going to be on a 64bit proc... yes?
[03:00] <akerl> s/PAE/PAE)/
[03:00] <sabiancrash_cgx> and PAE just sucks imho
[03:00] <SolidState> not many machine have 8gb of ram.
[03:01] <akerl> SolidState: a 64 bit processor doesn't do shit to help you use more RAM if you're on a 32 bit OS
[03:01] <sabiancrash_cgx> my laptop does
[03:01] <SolidState> I know that ;\
[03:01] <SolidState> 8gb of ram won't give you performance boost of a better processor though guys
[03:01] <sabiancrash_cgx> I have machines with 96GB ram
[03:01] <djmaster2437> i have a 16 gb mac pro
[03:01] <sabiancrash_cgx> SolidState: Its not about performance, its about leveraging the investment in the hardware you have
[03:01] <clusterfusk> sabiancrash_cgx & SolidState: now there's another problem. http://paste.ubuntu.com/616282/ But it's right here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/grub
[03:02] <rinkukokiri> fester77, seriously though, you got 30.00 $$ ??  >> http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Belkin+-+150N+Enhanced+Wireless-N+Router+with+4-Port+Ethernet+Switch/2196035.p?id=1218313905933&skuId=2196035&st=router&cp=1&lp=4
[03:02] <akerl> SolidState: I have no gd clue what you're even arguing. RAM and CPU affect choice of 32/64 bit OS. That is a fact
[03:02] <SolidState> sabiancrash_cgx, what machine do you have with 96gb lol
[03:02] <maco> akerl: watch the language
[03:02] <djmaster2437> also with 16.2 tb of hard drive space
[03:02] <akerl> maco: gotcha
[03:02] <sabiancrash_cgx> clusterfusk: grub is deprecated
[03:02] <rinkukokiri> akerl,  not really, if you have the correct hardware and PAE you can run up to 64 gigs on a 32 bit os
[03:02] <sabiancrash_cgx> grub 2 (grub-pc) replaces it
[03:02] <sabiancrash_cgx> SolidState: Distributed computing nodes
[03:03] <SolidState> k.
[03:03] <SolidState> anyway back to the topic
[03:03] <clusterfusk> sabiancrash_cgx: I know, but grub2 breaks my system.  Grub is in the repo, so why won't it install?
[03:03] <rinkukokiri> akerl, however it is rare to find the correct hardware with the PAE in one.
[03:03] <akerl> rinkukokiri: Which is why I said CPU and RAM. CPU affects PAE or not, as I said above.
[03:03] <sabiancrash_cgx> clusterfusk: What do you mean it breaks it
[03:03] <rinkukokiri> PAE isn't the determining factor I've found, it's the chipset/hardware combination
[03:03] <sabiancrash_cgx> clusterfusk: maybe we should troubleshoot grub instead of shoehorning grub .97 onto it
[03:04] <rinkukokiri> example, i have PAE but cannot use it because of an incorrect chipset/hardware configuration.
[03:04] <akerl> PAE is the factor... It's what *allows* a 32 bit OS to address more than 4gig of RAM.
[03:04] <sabiancrash_cgx> in fact, #grub won't even answer questions regarding grub .97 and older
[03:04] <SolidState> the bottom line is, if you have an old slow 32bit proc with who cares how much ram, it still is slow and any 64bit proc with 4gb of ram will kill it
[03:04] <clusterfusk> sabiancrash_cgx: after the bios, when grub should start, the monitor turns off.
[03:04] <boaz> ultrixx: how about dualbooting osx/ubuntu? Is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation#Dual-Boot: Mac OSX and Ubuntu my best bet?
[03:05] <sabiancrash_cgx> SolidState: you confuse me.  If you have a 32bit proc, you don't have more than 4GB ram.  period
[03:05] <SolidState> omg.
[03:05] <sabiancrash_cgx> unless your doing PAE which is not typical on consumer machines
[03:05] <ultrixx> boaz: you should use ReFIT
[03:05] <ultrixx> boaz: but i will read the page you pasted
[03:05] <SolidState> is it typical on your nodes
[03:05] <SolidState> it sucks btw.
[03:06] <boaz> ultrixx: any good way to do that with out wiping my existing os?
[03:06] <acovrig> squid unable to determine ip from hostname-why? (squid.conf - http://pastebin.com/P8xdWA2d )
[03:06] <sabiancrash_cgx> yes it does, and yes the XEONs do support PAE
[03:06] <doofy> Is there something funny about trying to boot off of LVM drives with Grub? One one of my drives I have 2 partitions (200 mb ext2 /boot, remainder is Physical Space for a logical group). In that group I have one volume which is setup to mount on / as ext4. When I boot up grub gives me error: unknown filesystem
[03:06] <rinkukokiri> akerl, Use of PAE to address RAM above the 4 GB point is key to breaking the "3 GB barrier." There are, however, factors that limit this ability, and lead to the "3 GB barrier" under certain circumstances, even though the processor fully supports PAE.
[03:06] <sabiancrash_cgx> but they are also 64bit CPUs so I run a native 64bit OS on them
[03:06] <sabiancrash_cgx> PAE is a hack
[03:06] <SolidState> I know l\
[03:06] <SolidState> :\
[03:06] <clusterfusk> sabiancrash_cgx: after the bios, when grub should start, the monitor turns off.
[03:06] <rinkukokiri> the rest of the motherboard must participate in allowing RAM above the 4GB point to be addressed by the CPU.
[03:07] <ultrixx> boaz: sure, it's in the link you posted here
[03:07] <SolidState> yea like I said PAE sucks.
[03:07] <sabiancrash_cgx> clusterfusk: Did you try reinstalling grub-pc
[03:07] <rinkukokiri> ^^ exactly
[03:07] <boaz> ultrixx: oh, I guess I should read it then ;p
[03:07] <SolidState> increasing your ram exponentially isn't going to help your performance.
[03:07] <ultrixx> boaz: lol
[03:07] <SolidState> I hope you know that
[03:07] <boaz> RTFM!!!!
[03:07]  * boaz RTFMs
[03:07] <clusterfusk> sabiancrash_cgx: yes
[03:07] <PauseBazinga> anyone in here using dual displays with one of them rotated?
[03:08] <PauseBazinga> I need some help on that particular set-up
[03:08] <sabiancrash_cgx> SolidState: performance is a very loose concept and involves all aspects of the system and the workload presented
[03:08] <SolidState> yea thats what I am saying ;\
[03:08] <SolidState> its a chain the whole weakest link theory
[03:08] <SolidState> IE any 32 bit pos processor
[03:08] <losty> jamiewan not sure if you still about, but tried it and still showing same, il keep trying, thanks for help mate, hope you have good evening
[03:08] <SolidState> or any convential non solid state hd
[03:09] <PauseBazinga> I've got the displays, err, displaying.  The problem is that the "virtual" screen size on the non-rotated display is off the boundries of the physical screen.
[03:09] <jamiewan> losty, there will be someone more resourceful than i mate i'm sure, hope it all works out cheers
[03:09] <clusterfusk> Did nom_mon ever come back to verify whether or not my suggestion helped?
[03:10] <PauseBazinga> that is to say, I can drag windows and icons off the screen to the "virtual" area and I shouldn't be able to.
[03:10] <rinkukokiri> PauseBazinga, I'm using dual displays, neither rotated, but I wish to know how to use seperate x servers and have the ability to drag windows/icons/gui elements from one display to the other.
[03:10] <SolidState> losty, what you tryin to do man?
[03:10] <sabiancrash_cgx> clusterfusk: So there is no opportunity to hit c during bootup before the monitor blanks?
[03:10] <losty> hi SolidState
[03:10] <losty> SolidState im trying to install some drivers for my laptop's built in webcam
[03:10] <rinkukokiri> or even be able to copy/paste icons from one display to the other/
[03:11] <losty> keep getting stuck
[03:11] <clusterfusk> sabiancrash_cgx: that's right.  BIOS => Monitor turns off.
[03:11] <PauseBazinga> well I can drag from one to the other just fine.  there's one big square virtual screen and the two displays are on top of that.
[03:11] <SolidState> losty, on what exactly?
[03:11] <boaz> ultrixx: your saying that this will let me install without wiping?: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation#You have already installed Mac OSX and Windows Vista, now to install Ubuntu.
[03:11] <boaz> uh
[03:11] <boaz> i mean
[03:11] <mouse> I'm thinking of getting an Acer Aspire One ZG5 with winxp installed and putting linux on it but I can't find any sort of compatibility list.  Does anyone have any information on this?
[03:11] <rinkukokiri> PauseBazinga, yeah, that's exactly what I don't want.
[03:12] <PauseBazinga> but since one is rotated and they're not the same dementions that leave a lot of extra space that the OS thinks is in use that I can't actually see
[03:12] <SolidState> if you buy a laptop, get the one with a free xbox 360 lol
[03:12] <boaz> ultrixx: i mean the "Example Ubuntu Installation after Mac OSX..." post?
[03:12] <rinkukokiri> I want two independant displays that have the ability to talk to each other.
[03:12] <sabiancrash_cgx> clusterfusk: did you run apt-get purge grub-pc prior to attempting to install grub?
[03:12] <losty> SolidState on installing the driver, ive been following the instructions but doesnt seem to work, http://paste.ubuntu.com/616289/ has the link im following and also the output
[03:12] <clusterfusk> sabiancrash_cgx: when?  why?
[03:13] <PauseBazinga> rinkukokiri, I actually had it working perfectly on Gnome 3 with the proper physical boundries recognized.  Problem is my brain was fighting against using Gnome 3
[03:13] <sabiancrash_cgx> clusterfusk: actually they have documentaion on reverting https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reverting to GRUB Legacy
[03:13] <dvanstone> hilo
[03:13] <Trfsrfr> I have a brand new re-install of 11.04, and I still have ZERO sound. Are my friends still here?
[03:13] <rinkukokiri> lol
[03:13] <SolidState> rinkukokiri, look up twinview and xinearama
[03:13] <steviewonder> hellomoto
[03:13] <acovrig> user connects to squid via eth4, internet is on eth3; how do I do this?
[03:13] <steviewonder> anybody like tayswift???
[03:13] <rinkukokiri> I had problems with both of them back in 9.04 ..
[03:14] <dvanstone> is there a social channel ?
[03:14] <KM0201> Trfsrfr: did you have sound on the live ccd/usb?
[03:14] <steviewonder> ANYBODY LIKE TAYSWIFT??
[03:14] <PauseBazinga> solidstate, good call.  I'd forgotten about that, but I think I remember them breaking my life last time I tried
[03:14] <rinkukokiri> #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[03:14] <steviewonder> I <3 HER
[03:14] <ultrixx> boaz: ŷou basically shrink the windows partition so you have enough space for ubuntu
[03:14] <sudokill> steviewonder, gtfo u queer
[03:14] <rinkukokiri> !offtopic | steviewonder
[03:14] <Trfsrfr> KM0201, I didnt check....damn...
[03:14] <ultrixx> boaz: you do that inside the ubuntu installation program
[03:14] <PauseBazinga> I'll reinstall fglx and try xenorama, brb
[03:15] <steviewonder> MY MIRC IS BROKEN...
[03:15] <boaz> ultrixx: I'm on a mac.
[03:15] <rinkukokiri> steviewonder, then go to the #mirc channel
[03:15] <KM0201> Trfsrfr: probably would've been a smart thing to check
[03:15] <ultrixx> boaz: yes i thought so^^
[03:15] <clusterfusk> sabiancrash_cgx: I'll try those instructions.  thanks.
[03:15] <PauseBazinga> steviewonder, so broken that it's allowing you to chat with us?
[03:15] <ultrixx> boaz: have you got windows installed in bootcamp
[03:15] <djmaster2437> bye ubuntu world
[03:15] <boaz> ultrixx: no
[03:16] <steviewonder> YES?
[03:16] <clusterfusk> how do you alert ops?
[03:16] <ultrixx> boaz: so why do you come up with ubuntu after mac os and windows?
[03:16] <Trfsrfr> KM0201, yeah...I agree. But I had so many other things to do...I guess I still could?
[03:16] <KM0201> Trfsrfr: i guess.. not sure what it would accomplish at this point though
[03:16] <PauseBazinga> brb, Ratheon reset required...
[03:16] <SolidState> PauseBazinga, you need to do sudo make && sudo make install
[03:16] <boaz> idk, i didn't see any other sections that seemed like they addressed the no wipe I want
[03:16] <ultrixx> boaz: go to Dual-Boot: Mac OSX and Ubuntu
[03:17] <SolidState> err that was for losty.
[03:17] <rinkukokiri> !help
[03:17] <Trfsrfr> KM0201, but I can always put the dc in and run it right? Even if I have ubuntu installed, or no?
[03:17] <steviewonder> THEY WONT ANSWER???
[03:17] <Trfsrfr> cd
[03:17] <KM0201> Trfsrfr: of course
[03:17] <boaz> ok, thanks ultrixx.
[03:17] <PauseBazinga> solidstate, you mean the included option for xenorama in CCC isn't actually there?
[03:17] <ultrixx> boaz: np
[03:17] <sudokill> steviewonder, stop trolling
[03:17] <sudokill> r u drunk?
[03:17] <PauseBazinga> steviewonder, who's "they"?
[03:17] <clusterfusk> !ops steviewonder
[03:17] <SolidState> PauseBazinga, never used it just googled dual displays on linux for you :-)
[03:17] <Trfsrfr> KM0201, i'll have to wait until I finish installing it on my laptop
[03:18] <steviewonder> I AINT DRUNK AND IDK WHAT TROLLING IS!!!!
[03:18] <Logan_> clusterfusk: can you please just /ignore him?
[03:18] <KM0201> ..
[03:18] <losty> SolidState il give it another shot
[03:18] <rinkukokiri> !feedthetroll
[03:18] <losty> thanks
[03:18] <IdleOne> steviewonder: please drop the caps
[03:18] <PauseBazinga> steviewonder, see that button that says, "CapsLock?"
[03:18] <steviewonder> sorry
[03:18] <SolidState> losty, do what I said you tried to just do sudo make install you gotta do sudo make first
[03:18] <KM0201> Trfsrfr: yeah, i'm guessing its probably jsut a setting somewhere.. what is your sound device (lspci in a terminal)
[03:18] <steviewonder> hah ai aint that dumb
[03:19]  * SolidState shoots steviewonder with an ak
[03:19] <PauseBazinga> okay solidestate, here goes...
[03:19] <steviewonder> TERRORIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:19]  * sudokill shoots SolidState with an rpg
[03:19] <IdleOne> !ot
[03:19] <SolidState> damn. overkill
[03:19] <sudokill> and there was war
[03:19] <tuxxman> hey, I'm having trouble connecting to a wifi network.  I can see the network and try to connect to it, but it just keeps asking me for a password, but the password is right.
[03:19] <rinkukokiri> steviewonder, this isn't a social channel, this is a support channel for Ubuntu. if you do not have an ubuntu support related question, please navigate yourself to #ubuntu-offtopic or some other social related channel.
[03:19] <Frostyglitch> anyone here familiar with filezilla?
[03:19] <SolidState> tuxxman, you got the right kind of encryption set?
[03:19] <tuxxman> Yeah
[03:20] <SolidState> details then I say!
[03:20] <steviewonder> #UBUNTU-OFFTOPIC WILL NOT ANSWER ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:20] <clusterfusk> i wonder why
[03:20] <steviewonder> BITCH!
[03:20] <SolidState> I am fucking baked heh
[03:20] <sudokill> steviewonder, whats the matter
[03:20] <Frostyglitch> i was uploading some files using filezilla, checked the box to skip files already present on server, but now I think it's even skipping files *not present on the server
[03:20] <rinkukokiri> yay, i was just gonna tell him to join Rizon and bug the 4chan guise :D
[03:20] <delinquentme> is it a clean operation for windows to shrink its partition .. to make more for ubuntu? or should i expect that windows is gonna go bonkers after i shrink its home?
[03:21] <sudokill> steviewonder, u wanna talk about taylor swift?
[03:21] <Frostyglitch> where do i go to turn off the "always perform this action"
[03:21] <Trfsrfr> KM0201, http://paste.ubuntu.com/616294/
[03:21] <rinkukokiri> sudokill, he's gone.
[03:21] <tuxxman> SolidState: Running on an HP dm4, and I can connect on windows7
[03:21] <sudokill> delinquentme, windows can shrink it fine
[03:21] <Frostyglitch> in other words I don't want it to skip files anymore hehe
[03:21] <sudokill> delinquentme, it checks the fs
[03:22] <tuxxman> I click connect, and the only thing that happens is it attempts to connect and then asks me for the password again
[03:22] <rinkukokiri> delinquentme, yep, windows actually does something right there..
[03:22] <sudokill> delinquentme, and makes sure data isnt lost
[03:22] <KM0201> Trfsrfr: i'm not at my desktop, but i'm almost positive thats the sound device i have on my desktop
[03:22] <delinquentme> ok so then the process is .. shrink the windows partition .. and then use gparted?
[03:22] <losty> SolidState ive tried, seemed to have got little bit further, but doesnt seem to want to complete the modprobe http://paste.ubuntu.com/616297/
[03:23] <sudokill> delinquentme, yes and format new partition as ext4 or whatever and install to that
[03:23] <Trfsrfr> KM0201, I have not had sound in 2 months. There have been many here trying to help me, and I (we) decided that a fresh install was in order.
[03:23] <rww> metatagg: Fix your connection, please.
[03:23] <Trfsrfr> KM0201, so here I am again, just got into the new install 10 minutes ago
[03:23] <delinquentme> sudokill, so i dont need to install anything .. i just need a bigger primary ext4 hd   got a 100gig file i need on my HD
[03:23] <KM0201> Trfsrfr: hmm, that is strange
[03:23] <lapaga> delinquentme, I would probably defrag the drive a couple times before shrinking
[03:24] <Frostyglitch> @rww you familiar with filezilla? :)
[03:24] <rww> Frostyglitch: if I were, I'd have answered your question already ;P
[03:24] <sudokill> delinquentme, then just use gparted and format it to whatever u want
[03:24] <Trfsrfr> KM0201, AND..I am a total noob
[03:24] <fedora_newb> d
[03:24] <rinkukokiri> delinquentme, Just make sure you pay special attention to where ubuntu wants to install the bootloader, if you install to the partition that has windows on it... no more windows bootloader..
[03:24] <Frostyglitch> <.<
[03:24] <SolidState> losty, idk it isn't compiling correctly, so its not going to modprobe, try getting a newer version of the driver.
[03:24] <KM0201> Trfsrfr: have you tried asking on the forums?
[03:24] <bencc> I've installed the emacs package under 11.04 but I don't see the menu under Applications
[03:24] <Frostyglitch> was hoping to actually find somebody active in the filezilla channel here, but of course it's dead
[03:25] <SolidState> try finding a .deb package
[03:25] <bencc> do I need another package?
[03:25] <losty> ok, will try SolidState - many thanks for your patient and help! :D
[03:25] <clusterfusk> sabiancrash_cgx: The istructions you linked me to require me to apt-get install grub.  That's not working. http://paste.ubuntu.com/616298/
[03:25] <delinquentme> oh so im already on a dual booted system .. i just want more space for well .. ' operating ' systems
[03:25] <clusterfusk> nom_mon: did it work?
[03:26] <KM0201> Trfsrfr: does post #1 accurately describe your problem?..  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/onboard-sound-via82xxx-not-working-in-slackware-current-and-13-1-a-870785/
[03:26] <Trfsrfr> KM0201, i have. But without real-time info, it doesnt help much for me right now. Which is why im here...
[03:26] <nom_mon> clusterfunk: yes. what does this mean?
[03:26] <KM0201> Trfsrfr: yeah..
[03:26] <SolidState> clusterfusk, you NEED to use grub2 dude
[03:26] <sudokill> delinquentme, if u want it for both win and linux dnt forget to use ntfs or something windows can natively use
[03:27] <dltucker> ne1 have ibm ds storagemanger working on ubuntu 11?
[03:27] <clusterfusk> SolidState: tell that to my monitor as it turns off during boot
[03:27] <rinkukokiri> lol
[03:27] <delinquentme> 1 more question .. does ubuntu have a graphical tool which shows what folders take up the most room on the HD?
[03:27] <sudokill> yes
[03:27] <SolidState> clusterfusk, while  booting from hd or disk?
[03:27] <sudokill> forgot what its called lol
[03:28] <rinkukokiri> sequoia?
[03:28] <sudokill> file analyser ? idk
[03:28] <sudokill> disk usage analyzer
[03:28] <clusterfusk> nom_mon: your hardware doesn't like the unity interface.  using Ubuntu classic should do just fine.
[03:28] <Trfsrfr> KM0201, I not so much describing my problem. When I was running the prior ubuntu version, I had sound...until I updated...
[03:28] <rinkukokiri> windows program is called sequioaview
[03:28] <clusterfusk> nom_mon: or unity is otherwise broken
[03:28] <nom_mon> clusterfunk: is there any way i can run natty?
[03:28] <rinkukokiri> ^^ views filesize as colored squares
[03:29] <KM0201> hmm
[03:29] <SolidState> clusterfusk, while  booting from hd or disk?
[03:29] <clusterfusk> SolidState: from HD
[03:29] <SolidState> k.
[03:29] <rinkukokiri> GDmap
[03:29] <mouse> I'm thinking of getting an Acer Aspire One ZG5 with winxp installed and putting linux on it but I can't find any sort of compatibility list.  Does anyone have any information on this?
[03:29] <Trfsrfr> hmmm...I appreciate your help
[03:29] <rww> delinquentme: Applications > Accessories > Disk Usage Analyzer
[03:29] <sudokill> mouse, there is an ubuntu laptop compatability list somewhere
[03:29] <dltucker> mouse: I am running on an acer aspireone
[03:29] <rinkukokiri> sudokill, delinquentme rww http://dataisnature.com/?p=260 ??
[03:30] <dltucker> mouse: I have ubuntu 11 going..
[03:30] <mouse> dltucker, What model?
[03:30] <sudokill> rinkukokiri, not sure if the disk usage analyser is still in 11.04
[03:30] <gartral> Oook.. something went completly wrong, I was writing a text doc, system suddenly rebooted, and now ubuntu is saying my keyring password is not the same as my login pass.. wtf
[03:30] <rww> rinkukokiri: That's for Windows, not Ubuntu.
[03:30] <clusterfusk> SolidState: I've never gotten grub2 to work on this machine.  I always install grub legacy.
[03:30] <SolidState> clusterfusk, bad hw?
[03:30] <dltucker> mouse: ZG5  or is that ZGS
[03:30] <sudokill> nothing wrong with grub legacy
[03:31] <nom_mon> clusterfunk: is there any way I can run natty?
[03:31] <rinkukokiri> rww  google said there was a reference to GdMap on that page... i didn't read b4 i linked, srry
[03:31] <EmuAlert> How do you reset the graphics to the "default" when you first pop in the live CD?
[03:31] <dltucker> mouse: just got bifocals...   I think it is a zG5  and I only have one gb
[03:31] <mouse> dltucker, How did you install ubuntu 11?
[03:31] <rinkukokiri> sudokill, delinquentme rww try that?  http://gdmap.sourceforge.net/
[03:31] <SolidState> ya use grub legacy then I guess..
[03:31] <SolidState> how slow is a machine that can't run grub 2 though... ?
[03:31] <dltucker> My Company has a ubuntu build.
[03:32] <dltucker> but you can download it and install it from a usb key
[03:32] <sudokill> grub 2 doesnt require high spec lol
[03:32] <gartral> Oook.. something went completly wrong, I was writing a text doc, system suddenly rebooted, and now ubuntu is saying my keyring password is not the same as my login pass.. wtf
[03:32] <sudokill> spam
[03:32] <SolidState> dltucker, what company?
[03:32] <dltucker> or an usb external hd.    I would imagine there
[03:32] <clusterfusk> nom_mon: Ubuntu Classic IS natty, just without the sparkly new Unity interface.  Trust me, you're not missing anything.    I removed it from my laptop.
[03:32] <dltucker> ibm
[03:32] <SolidState> thats cool ibm uses ubuntu.
[03:32] <mouse> dltucker, Did you have any problems with the wifi adapter?
[03:32] <tanath> can anyone help me with samba? before upgrading to 11.04 i was able to mount/access my shares, but now it fails. and running smbclient asks for a password
[03:32] <nom_mon> clusterfunk: ok thanks for all your help,
[03:32] <rinkukokiri> dltucker, you can do that with most any os now a days.  even windows.  I have xp installed on a sandisk 16g cruiser
[03:33] <rww> rinkukokiri: Unlike the program I already listed, GdMap is not included in Ubuntu.
[03:33] <dltucker> the only problems with wifi aare sometimes i have to take the battery out but that was the say with windows 7
[03:33] <clusterfusk> nom_mon: that's "clusterfusk"
[03:33] <rinkukokiri> rww that is true.
[03:33] <SolidState> clusterfunkydunkydoo.
[03:33] <Trfsrfr> KM0201, does my pastebin post look okay?
[03:33] <kamran1> mouse: here is the link for ubuntu certified hardware http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[03:33] <clusterfusk> :|
[03:33] <KM0201> Trfsrfr: yeah..
[03:33] <mouse> dltucker, That's strange behavior.
[03:34] <dltucker> mouse:  the wifi works out of the box on both the ibm build and the other ubuntu builds that I have tried.
[03:34] <Delerium_> dltucker, I thought there was only a RHEL imagine that requires a licence for Linux at IBM !?!
[03:34] <rinkukokiri> rww considering this new unity crap, i can't understand how anyone can find stuff already installed in ubuntu anymore though :D
[03:34] <nom_mon> ok bye
[03:34] <rinkukokiri> brb goin to relogin to classic.
[03:34] <SolidState> xfce owns
[03:34] <sabiancrash_cgx> clusterfusk: grub is prolly not available in any of the sources you have setup in sources.list
[03:34] <dltucker> Delerium_: nope,  IBM does have a redhat build and an ubuntu build.   used to have a suse build.   but there are several redhat builds.    even a 6.1
[03:35] <Trfsrfr> KM0201,  so this is weird. I have changed from on-board sound in BIOS to external, and back again multiple times
[03:35] <sabiancrash_cgx> your going to have to find the proper repo for it and then add it to your sources.list and then do a apt-get update
[03:35] <mouse> kamran1, Thank you.  I was looking for something like that.
[03:35] <Delerium_> dltucker, ha... didn't knew that... a friend of mine might be happy! ;)
[03:35] <clusterfusk> sabiancrash_cgx: that's my guess, but I don't know which sources I'm supposed to add.
[03:35] <sabiancrash_cgx> clusterfusk a little googling to tell you
[03:35] <SolidState> clusterfusk, lol ;\
[03:35] <Trfsrfr> KM0201, right now im on external, and my sound card is suppoted
[03:35] <Trfsrfr> supported
[03:35] <KM0201> Trfsrfr: i wish i could give you an answer, my guess is, if youv'e been working on it for 2mo, folks have tried everything i would try
[03:36] <rinkukokiri> So, now that I have disabled that unity crap, what do i break if i uninstall it?
[03:36] <SolidState> some people would starve if you didn't hand feed them ;-P
[03:36] <tanath> can anyone help me with samba? before upgrading to 11.04 i was able to mount/access my shares, but now it fails. and running smbclient asks for a password
[03:36] <KM0201> Trfsrfr: what do you mean "it's supported".. it's working?
[03:36] <sabiancrash_cgx> SolidState: true
[03:36] <dltucker> Delerium_:  have him email me if he wants to see where to download the stuff.
[03:36] <aot2002> I have a installation of libxml2-dev which php says it's at version 2.6 but I need 2.7 and apt-cache says Version: 2.7.6.dfsg-1ubuntu1  Replaces: libxml2 (<= 2.6.6-1),   ? How can I install 2.7
[03:36] <SushiDude> I found a spelling error on http://www.ubuntu.com/
[03:36] <Trfsrfr> KM0201, no - I mean it is one of the sound cards with drivers that are supported. open-source.
[03:36] <sabiancrash_cgx> SushiDude: OH NOES!
[03:36] <rww> SushiDude: where, specifically?
[03:36] <SushiDude> if you go to the download
[03:37] <KM0201> Trfsrfr: how do you know that?
[03:37] <Trfsrfr> I have an ati hd4650
[03:37] <Trfsrfr> I looked it up
[03:37] <delinquentme> 87 MB for a hard drive visualization tool sudo apt-get install kdirstat ... that doesnt sound right
[03:37] <SushiDude> if you go to: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[03:37] <SushiDude> then
[03:37] <Delerium_> dltucker, k, I'll let him know... Thanks for the info!
[03:37] <SushiDude> Burn your CD or create a USB drive
[03:37] <SushiDude> USB stick, Windows
[03:37] <SushiDude> Show me how
[03:38] <gartral> Oook.. something went completly wrong, I was writing a text doc, system suddenly rebooted, and now ubuntu is saying my keyring password is not the same as my login pass.. wtf
[03:38] <clusterfusk> SushiDude: type a complete thought on one line, not 6, please
[03:38] <SushiDude> clusterfusk: sorry
[03:38] <SushiDude> and then : 5. Read the licence agreement and choose 'I Agree' to continue
[03:38] <KM0201> SushiDude: you shouldn't hae to agree to any license i don't think, to burn an ISO.
[03:38] <mouse> dltucker, Over all what do hate the most about your acer aspire?
[03:38] <rinkukokiri> actually let me expand that question.. 1 What do I break if I uninstall Unity. 2 How do I force both x servers to run compiz without having to reload the window manager to produce my titlebars every login 3 how do I run separate x servers and have the ability to drag windows from one display to the other?
[03:38] <rww> SushiDude: That's not a spelling error, it's British English.
[03:39] <SolidState> SushiDude, no one cares man hahahaha!
[03:39] <SushiDude> rww: really..
[03:39] <rww> SolidState: actually, we do.
[03:39] <rww> SushiDude: yes
[03:39] <SushiDude> fail -_-
[03:39] <clusterfusk> SushiDude: also, that's off-topic.  this is a channel for tech support.
[03:39] <SolidState> epic failure.
[03:39] <KM0201> SushiDude: where are you geting asked all this again?
[03:39] <rww> SushiDude: Don't worry about it. I moved UK to US nine years ago and it all still confuses me :)
[03:39] <jv_> Hi and help!
[03:39] <aHardyX> Hi, I think I did something to Unity and now the title bar is not integrating with the panel. What shud I do?
[03:39] <SolidState> english is the worst language lol.
[03:40] <tanath> can anyone help me with samba? before upgrading to 11.04 i was able to mount/access my shares, but now it fails. and running smbclient asks for a password
[03:40] <SushiDude> KM0201: what?
[03:40] <joustin> I am not liking unity so far
[03:40] <jv_> my proc folder is almost 3 gigs! I removed kde and installed xfce
[03:40] <rww> KM0201: you're misreading what they said ;)
[03:40] <KM0201> rww: i guess so.. :)
[03:40] <sabiancrash_cgx> edbian is not longer here: well for posterity, tried that vdk on another host machine, grub still hangs on boot up
[03:40] <dltucker> mouse: screensize and then keyboard is small.   and thirdly I guess I could use some more ram.   but it runs ubuntu 11 just fine
[03:40] <jv_> I thought was going to save space but it increased.
[03:40] <SushiDude> joustin: Then don't use it
[03:41] <rinkukokiri> joustin, neither did I
[03:41] <mouse> dltucker, How much ram do you have?
[03:41] <dltucker> mouse: 1 gb
[03:41] <rinkukokiri> 1.21 gigawatts
[03:41] <joustin> I have to give it a few more weeks to make sure. It took me a while to like aero
[03:41] <jv_> there are many folders inside /proc  with numbers and look to have the same info
[03:41] <dltucker> mouse:   actually if I was not tied to a couple of apps i would run ubuntu on my thinkpad
[03:42] <Aginor> rinkukokiri, 1: unity, possibly some of the other graphical stuff. 2: enable compiz in your gnome-session (assuming you're using gnome). 3: you don't. 4: why not just choose ubuntu-classic when you login through gdm?
[03:42] <mouse> dltucker, What apps?
[03:42] <SolidState> jv_, sudo du -a /proc | sort -n -r | head -n 10
[03:42] <dltucker> mouse: mostly   ibm internal apps like the ibm ssct tool
[03:43] <dltucker> mouse:  and I have yet to find an mp3/cdg karaoke program for linux...
[03:43] <aHardyX> Anyone knows how to solve the title bar issue in Unity?
[03:43] <mouse> dltucker, I see.  I wouldn't know those apps so I wouldn't know a decent replacement either.
[03:43] <rinkukokiri> Aginor, i am using ubuntu-classic, but I would like to remove the stuff I have chosen to hate like a redheaded stepchild.
[03:43] <dltucker> mouse: I also have a kodak printer  and afaik there is no linux driver for it..
[03:44] <SolidState> dltucker, i think you can use windows printer drivers some how....
[03:44] <Aginor> rinkukokiri, I find your statement offensive, and I will not be providing any help to you. Good luck with achieving your goals.
[03:44] <gartral> Oook.. something went completly wrong, I was writing a text doc, system suddenly rebooted, and now ubuntu is saying my keyring password is not the same as my login pass.. wtf I'm really in a fix
[03:44] <rinkukokiri> Aginor, and # 2.  I have to actually disable compiz with compiz-fusion icon, because with it running i cannot type anything on my second monitor and have no titlebars on anything on the second monitor
[03:44] <dltucker> SolidState:  hows that?   with wine or something?
[03:44] <rinkukokiri> Aginor, well I do apologize but I seriously do loathe the new ui.
[03:44] <Logan_> dltucker: pykaraoke
[03:45] <SolidState> dltucker, no... using the text type file from  the drive might have run the .exe on windows to extract the file
[03:45] <jv_> SolidState, thanks, but still has 2.8 gigs,,didn't got smaller
[03:45] <dltucker> Logan_:    really?   can I apt get that?
[03:45] <SolidState> jv_, no that will list your big files LOL
[03:45] <jv_> ahahah
[03:45] <jv_> ok, then
[03:45] <jv_> ;)
[03:45] <Logan_> dltucker: yep
[03:45] <tanath> can anyone help me with samba?
[03:45] <Logan_> !anyone | tanath
[03:46] <SolidState> jv_, then you can find out if it is safe to delete which im not sure why anything in /proc should be that big
[03:46] <tanath> Logan_, tried that. no answers :P
[03:46] <dltucker> Allrighty then I am on a mission andnif  you could only hear me wail   some CCR  you would be forever changed!!
[03:46] <mouse> dltucker, Yeah printer drivers are a pain.  I know for sure cannon isn't very linux friendly at all.  I don't do much karaoke but a quick apt search gave me Performous.  Have you seen that yet?
[03:47] <SolidState> dltucker, creedence clear water revival?
[03:47] <Logan_> mouse: nah, that's not what he's looking for - pykaraoke should do it
[03:47] <tanath> need help with samba. before upgrading to 11.04 i was able to mount/access my shares, but now it fails to mount shares. and running smbclient asks for a password
[03:47] <dltucker> SolidState: yes and Looking out my back door specifically
[03:47] <mouse> Logan_, Oh okay.  Like I said I don't do it much.
[03:48] <jv_> SolidState, it's faster but bigger! I created a moster! ;)
[03:48] <SolidState> I am a baked frankenstein monster buahahha
[03:48] <rww> SolidState: #ubuntu doesn't want to know about your cooking habits :(
[03:48] <SolidState> and who are you again...?
[03:49] <sabiancrash_cgx> tanath if you have anonymous access enabled on your smb share, then just hitting return on the password prompt should work
[03:49] <rargueta> buenas noches , alguien de habla español?
[03:49] <rww> !es | rargueta
[03:49] <rargueta> gracias
[03:50] <aHardyX> So no one can help me with the titlebar issue in Unity?
[03:50] <nbros652> Anyone know how I can get info on network activity from a computer running ubuntu server?
[03:50] <tanath> sabiancrash_cgx, that helped. thanks. new error: tree connect failed: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
[03:50] <rinkukokiri> I don't understand all this RandR talk, my Nvidia has NEVER been able to add/remove screens on the fly without stopping the x server.
[03:50] <ptley> nbros652: do you mean total bandwidth or
[03:50] <Dulak> nbros652: if you want general stats, iptraf might be what you want
[03:50]  * rinkukokiri just might enable xinerama just to see if previous bugs have been fixed.
[03:50] <SolidState> tanath, make sure in /etc/samba/smb.conf you have guest ok = yes and browseable = yes at the bottom
[03:51] <SolidState> on the server that is
[03:51] <nbros652> ptley: bandwidth in use
[03:51] <Dulak> nbros652: yeah iptraf will show you that
[03:51] <aHardyX> ok I got a pic for it: http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4554/screenshotuy.png
[03:51] <nbros652> Dulak: thx. I'll give it a go.
[03:53] <jv_> SolidState, there is a file kcore (program crash data) with over 1 gig but it does not let me chown to root so i can delete
[03:53] <jv_> what should I do?
[03:53] <SolidState> jv_, sudo rm filename
[03:54] <SolidState> rww, don't have robots send me messages, ok
[03:54] <tanath> SolidState, now it says my shares don't exist
[03:54] <rww> SolidState: Don't be offtopic in #ubuntu and I won't have ubottu tell you to not be offtopic in #ubuntu.
[03:54] <SolidState> I do as I please.
[03:54] <Dulak> It's a support channel, do as you please elsewhere.
[03:55] <jv_> cannot remove kcore: operation not permitted
[03:55] <SolidState> seems like im the only one helping people hahaha
[03:55] <tanath> SolidState, there were lines with ; in front with settings i wanted enforced. i removed them, and now the shares don't show
[03:55] <SolidState> so go ahead and ban me
[03:55] <jv_> no!!!! ahahah
[03:55] <rww> SolidState: are you sure?
[03:55] <SolidState> if you want people to not get helped go ahead.
[03:55] <SolidState> I don't need help with linux personally.
[03:56]  * rww shrugs
[03:56] <gnewb> aHardyX: What is the error with that?
[03:56] <rww> I'm lazy. Just don't be offtopic and we'll call it good.
[03:56] <tanath> new topic. samba :P
[03:56] <SolidState> seems like people such as you scare folks away, 'nuff said.
[03:57] <rinkukokiri> So, twinview it is it appears.
[03:57] <tanath> SolidState, any other settings i should look at in conf file?
[03:57] <tanath> SolidState, it's rather large
[03:58] <SolidState> tanath, google for a basic samba.conf and tailor it to your needs pastebin it if you need help.,
[03:58] <jv_> how to take ownership of this kcore file? chown and chmod and sudo and su does not allow to delete it
[03:58] <SolidState> no, thats all you should need, unless you need to force user or group since they own the folder..........
[03:58] <SolidState> oh wait, whats your security line set at
[03:58] <rinkukokiri> now that I have this setup how i'd like to use it.. how do I put a panel on my secondary monitor?
[03:58] <rinkukokiri> using twinview?
[03:59] <rww> jv_: /proc is a virtual file system. The files inside it are representations of system state and not actual files on your hard disk. They thus do not take up space (and as you're seeing, can't be deleted).
[03:59] <tanath> SolidState, samba config says "broweseable = yes" isn't understood
[03:59] <tanath> er, typoed didn't i? :P
[04:00] <SolidState> ya
[04:00] <SolidState> rww, good point. why does he have a huge proc though.
[04:00] <jv_> rww, I think this was crash data of the KDE that I removed...The space is over 1 gig and I am almost with no space left after I removed KDE and installed xfce
[04:00] <rinkukokiri> wow, i just realized that a few of these guys have their bare ip's showing.
[04:00] <rinkukokiri> hope I don't as well ;D
[04:01] <SolidState> what guys?
[04:01] <rww> jv_: No, it isn't crash data. /proc/kcore is a file representation of the RAM in your computer. Again, it is not actually a file.
[04:01] <jv_> how do I hide my ip from ping?
[04:01] <rinkukokiri> thought the server was supposed to run a masking algorythm on em
[04:01] <jv_> ahhh! thanks.