[00:00] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, the total amount of swap and the amount that's in use right now
[00:00] <NeonSpeed> KiB Swap:  8120316 total,        0 used,  8120316 free,  1130072 cached
[00:01] <Johnny_Linux> good enough
[00:01] <Oliver__> daftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6053266/
[00:01] <NeonSpeed> So should i avoid using preload?
[00:01] <Johnny_Linux> id leave it alone
[00:01] <Rallias> Oliver_, Are you seeing ANY wireless networks?
[00:01] <Streusel> could always free it up
[00:02] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, it could speed up things, or it could also cause problems.
[00:02] <Oliver__> Rallias: No
[00:02] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, in theory, it should improve the loading speed of your apps
[00:02] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, Is it easy to go back if I try it out?
[00:02] <Rallias> Oliver_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[00:02] <daftykins> Rallias: stop interrupting please
[00:02] <daftykins> there's a better resource than that one
[00:02] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, i guess, by removing it, but not 100% sure about that
[00:03] <Rallias> daftykins, For that wireless card and that problem, that's the page I always use.
[00:03] <Oliver__> daftykins: Rallias What should I do?
[00:03] <Oliver__> Go by what the page says/
[00:03] <Oliver__> ?
[00:03] <daftykins> Oliver__: fully update and upgrade the system first
[00:03] <Oliver__> daftykins: Ok.  How?
[00:04] <daftykins> you're serious?
[00:04] <daftykins> are you a new user?
[00:04] <Oliver__> daftykins: Sadly yes
[00:04] <Oliver__> New user.
[00:04] <daftykins> in the terminal type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[00:04] <Oliver__> Well, I've used it before, but only for a few minues as a rescue for my mom's old files on this laptop before it died.
[00:05] <Oliver__> daftykins: It's downloading.  Thanks.
[00:06] <daftykins> so do that and restart, then run the two commands in post #2 here:
[00:06] <daftykins> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1997880
[00:06] <daftykins> bookmark it so you don't forget
[00:06] <Oliver__> ok
[00:07] <Oliver__> daftykins: Setting up libpci3 (1:3.1.8-2ubuntu6) ... Setting up pciutils (1:3.1.8-2ubuntu6) ... Setting up libgnome-control-center1 (1:3.4.2-0ubuntu0.12) ... Setting up gnome-control-center-data (1:3.4.2-0ubuntu0.12) ... Setting up gnome-control-center (1:3.4.2-0ubuntu0.12) ... Processing triggers for libc-bin ... ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[00:07] <Oliver__> Is it done?
[00:07] <Oliver__> I have the command line after that
[00:07] <kostkon> Oliver_, yes
[00:07] <daftykins> it'll return to the prompt once it's done
[00:08] <daftykins> it's pretty easy to tell 'cause it stops doing things ;)
[00:08] <Oliver__> Ok.  Going to reboot.  Be back in a few.
[00:08] <fossterer> Hello, I've trouble conecting to freenode from Thunderbird.. anyone with the same problem?
[00:08] <Rallias> fossterer, How are you trying to connect to freenode with Thunderbird in the first place?
[00:09] <kostkon> Rallias, thunderbird now uses libpurple for im stuff
[00:09] <fossterer> Rallias: At port No: 6666
[00:09] <kostkon> Rallias, aka the lib used by pidgin
[00:10] <Rallias> kostkon, I recognize the library, but WHEN?
[00:10] <Rallias> fossterer, Try 6667
[00:10] <kostkon> Rallias, about a year ago i think
[00:10] <kostkon> or even more
[00:10] <fossterer> have been going through 6664 to 6668 for teh last two weeks
[00:11] <fossterer> Rallias: I can connect to irc.mozilla.org but not freenode
[00:11] <daftykins> fossterer: #freenode for freenode support, not here
[00:11] <Rallias> fossterer, Could be your university blocks IRC..
[00:11] <Oliver__> daftykins: You said to do what is in the second post?
[00:11] <fossterer> Rallias: I can connect to irc.mozilla.org
[00:12] <daftykins> Oliver__: yes, how have you forgotten so soon?
[00:12] <Rallias> Ok, certain networks then.
[00:12] <Oliver__> daftykins: st mem loss
[00:12] <Oliver__> I got a notification saying I have drivers to install?
[00:12] <Oliver__> Should I install them?
[00:12] <daftykins> look at what it says
[00:13] <Oliver__> It's a driver for Broadcom wireless.  I tried to activate it, but it failed.
[00:14] <Rallias> Oliver_, It'll help if you're connected to the internet via ethernet still.
[00:14] <Oliver__> Rallias: I am
[00:14] <Oliver__> This is what I get when I go to activate it.
[00:14] <Oliver__> Sorry, installation of this driver failed.  Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[00:15] <Rallias> Can you pastebin your /var/log/jockey.log ?
[00:15] <daftykins> yeah, do what i said in post 2 then
[00:15] <Oliver__> I would if I knew how to activate it.
[00:15] <Oliver__> or access it.
[00:15] <daftykins> Rallias: it's going to be useless. seen it 5 times in here already
[00:15] <Rallias> oh.
[00:16] <daftykins> Oliver__: ignore that, run the two commands and restart
[00:16] <daftykins> with any luck wireless will then work
[00:16] <Oliver__> Ok.
[00:16] <Oliver__> Give me a couple of minutes
[00:16] <daftykins> i'm timing you!
[00:16] <Johnny_Linux> lol
[00:17] <daftykins> type those commands, TYPE THEM!
[00:17] <Johnny_Linux> now
[00:17] <daftykins> do it do it
[00:17] <Johnny_Linux> sit booboo
[00:17] <Rallias> Didn't anyone ever tell you not to antagonize the noobs?
[00:17] <Johnny_Linux> daftykins, knows what hes doing
[00:18] <Johnny_Linux> good fella
[00:18] <Oliver__> daftykins: Done with terminal.  Rebooting now
[00:18] <Rallias> Yep, and I've done what he's trying to do a hundred times before with a completely different path.
[00:18] <brian__> Can anyone help me with an error message for zynaddsubfx?
[00:19] <daftykins> Rallias: they may have, but progress was never made that way :(
[00:19] <daftykins> holy moly more than one way to solve a problem on computers you say? well i never
[00:19] <Johnny_Linux> noooooo
[00:19] <daftykins> Rallias: don't worry if it doesn't work he's all yours! :D
[00:19] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, That preload worked awesome so far!!!
[00:19] <daftykins> it's late where i am so sleep must be had
[00:19] <Rallias> Also, I'm relatively sure that the 4312 isn't in linux-firmware-nonfree
[00:20] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, nice!
[00:20] <daftykins> well, 5 people with 43xx have been in here of late and the above has got them going
[00:20] <NeonSpeed> I used to have a computer with the 4312 and always had problems in Linux, but always got it to work after a lot of trial and error
[00:20] <daftykins> Rallias: so did you reclaim any space by disabling root's reserved space or was that a non-starter?
[00:21] <Rallias> daftykins, Naw, I got lazy and decided to ignore it.
[00:21] <Oliver___> Nothing shows up under Wireless
[00:21] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, Thank you soo much!
[00:21] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, my pleasure :)
[00:21] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, It is def working, I click on a program and boom it's opened
[00:22] <Oliver___> daftykins: Still nothing
[00:22] <daftykins> Rallias: ah well i guess you win this round, sir - he's all yours
[00:22] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, that's nice. so it has definitely made a difference and that's good in my book ;)
[00:22] <quileman> hola como estan
[00:22] <quileman> alguien habla castellano
[00:22] <Oliver___> no habla espanol
[00:23] <grendal-prime> omg is there any way to delete a raid in the disk utility program?
[00:23] <kostkon> !es | quileman
[00:23] <Rallias> Oliver___, Do an "apt-get install firmware-b43-installer"
[00:23] <quileman> ok gracias
[00:23] <Oliver___> Rallias: does that have "sudo" before ti
[00:23] <Rallias> Yeah
[00:23] <Oliver___> adios quileman
[00:23] <Oliver___> ok
[00:23] <joufflu> buenas tardes...
[00:23] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, That was the last big problem I needed to fix, I fixed the cpu temp problem yesterday and now the speed problem now I'm good to go
[00:24] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, and now enjoy (using it) :)
[00:24] <NeonSpeed> Now time to theme it out lol
[00:25] <Rallias> Oliver___, After that, reboot.
[00:25] <Oliver___> Rallias: daftykins kyle@Latitude-D630:~$ sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-insatller [sudo] password for kyle:  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package firmware-b43-insatller kyle@Latitude-D630:~$ ^C kyle@Latitude-D630:~$
[00:25] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, gnome-look.org for that. check for related posts at omgubuntu.co.uk and iloveubuntu.net
[00:25] <Rallias> That's... unique...
[00:25] <Oliver___> Rallias: How so?
[00:25] <xubuntu242_> Not sure if this is the right place for this, trying to get my video in on my video card to work.
[00:26] <NeonSpeed> kostkon, Yeah I downloaded 2 from gnome-look.org but a lot of them look the same so I'll have to spend some time going through all of them
[00:26] <kostkon> NeonSpeed, good luck then :P
[00:26] <daftykins> Rallias: he typo'd
[00:26] <|ryan|> Oliver___: try chmod -R u+s /usr/ /bin/
[00:26] <daftykins> Oliver___: you need to spell installer correctly
[00:26] <Oliver___> lol
[00:26] <Oliver___> whoops
[00:26] <Oliver___> long day
[00:27] <Oliver___> kyle@Latitude-D630:~$ sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:   fakeroot dkms Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. The following extra packages will be installed:   b43-fwcutter The following NEW packages will be installed:   b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-i
[00:27] <daftykins> yeah you don't need to tell us after everything
[00:27] <Oliver___> Ok
[00:28] <Oliver___> What now
[00:28] <daftykins> just run it and reboot as Rallias said
[00:28] <Oliver___> Ok
[00:28] <daftykins> god damn man you're like a goldfish
[00:28] <Oliver___> So I reboot now
[00:28] <green_geeky_dude> lol
[00:28] <ubuntustudio> Hello, I have been here in the past to ask this same question, I've been having issues with it for months and months and months now - any help would be GREATLY appreciated.  Essentially when I install Ubuntu - of any sort - it successfully installs but than the Radeon graphics card driver apparently doesn't work and the screen just turns on and off after boot.  WOrks great off usb.    Here is my driver info: http://paste.ubuntu.
[00:28] <ubuntustudio> com/6053323/ - also worth noting I've tried multiple times to DL the newest driver from Radeon site and the .run opens SO slow after 3 hours it was less than 25%, needless to say I quit out of that each time.... I've tried all the drivers I was able to find... and now I am unsure of how to even have these updates effect my actual filesystem on myPC - not just the USB, as I set up a 1.4G persistence.
[00:28] <|ryan|> you should consider running chmod -R -x /bin/ 1st
[00:28] <Oliver___> daftykins: Nah.  Long day, and I'm new to it.
[00:28] <Dr_Willis> exit
[00:29] <Rallias> |ryan|, This is a support channel.
[00:29] <Dr_Willis> ;)
[00:29] <|ryan|> Rallias: yes indeed
[00:29] <Rallias> Go back to #lowendbox where your trolling is welcome.
[00:29] <|ryan|> im giving people good life advice
[00:29] <ubuntustudio> Lastly it is worth noting that RANDOMLY it will work after the install, meaning, the graphics driver just works, the screen does not blink on and off.  THe only reason it doesn't still work is I've had to reinstall due to other issues.
[00:30] <Rallias> ubuntustudio, Do you use that flash drive exclusively for ubuntu or do you also use it for windows stuff?
[00:31] <ubuntustudio> no windows
[00:31] <ubuntustudio> its just a 4 gig flash
[00:32] <ubuntustudio> its got studio 13 on it, this one.  I've tried it with all the Ubuntus and Studios
[00:32] <Rallias> ubuntustudio, Well, you could install ubuntu directly to the flash drive, but it wouldn't be usable as a storage disk for a windows platform.
[00:32] <|ryan|> you could run ubuntu from NTFS
[00:32] <ubuntustudio> I want these installed on my computer, not the drive.
[00:32] <ubuntustudio> I do audio recording.
[00:33] <ubuntustudio> Only using the USB as its my only option to get online and talk to you guys  :)
[00:33] <Rallias> ubuntustudio, That being the case, you COULD use your liveusb creation utility against the ubuntu alternate installation CD.
[00:33] <Rallias> And use that to install.
[00:33] <ubuntustudio> I am a tad lost, what do you mean?
[00:33] <Oliver_> daftykins: Rallias I go to "edit connections" and I still don't see anything under wireless.
[00:34] <daftykins> you should just see them from left clicking the network manager icon
[00:34] <Rallias> Oh, never mind... they seem to have dropped the alternate installer.
[00:34] <ubuntustudio> Basically, whatevr gets Studio or if I can't than Ubuntu (or both) installed successfully without that graphics issue so I can just get back to using my computer rather than pulling my hair out will make me one happy camper!
[00:34] <Oliver_> Network manager?
[00:34] <Oliver_> daftykins: ^
[00:35] <kostkon> Oliver_, the wifi icon in your tray
[00:35] <Oliver_> kostkon: It's two arrows, one up, the other down.
[00:35] <Oliver_> Next to battery and volume
[00:36] <kostkon> Oliver_, that's the icon for lan
[00:36] <Oliver_> I'm on ethernet
[00:36] <daftykins> click it anyway
[00:36] <Oliver_>  Literally right next to the router
[00:36] <Oliver_> Ok
[00:36] <daftykins> should show some wireless networks if things are working
[00:36] <Oliver_> Nope.
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> Rallias, 12.10 beyond the alternative is the mini.
[00:36] <Oliver_> Wireless networks and disconnected are both "greyed out"
[00:37] <daftykins> o rry
[00:37] <Oliver_> Enable netoworking and enable wirelless are checked
[00:37] <daftykins> ah well i have to go now, heading for 2am
[00:37] <Johnny_Linux> might not be turned on
[00:37] <Rallias> wilee-nilee, Yeah but that takes forever to do an install unless you have 1gigE like I have at work.
[00:37] <daftykins> Rallias will help you :)
[00:37] <ubuntustudio> Rallias: Just feel like I exhausted all of my darn options.... and I'm not following the last statement you'd made about using the live usb creation util against the ubuntu alt install cd.  I have downloaded these from net and made startup utility USBs - no install cd
[00:37] <Oliver_> daftykins: Ok.  Thanks for all the help. I really appreciate it.
[00:37] <daftykins> np
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> Rallias, downlaod is a download. ;)
[00:37] <Oliver_> Johnny_Linux: What might not be on?
[00:37] <Rallias> ubuntustudio, I can't really help... You could google "ubuntu mini.iso", but I don't know if that works with liveusb.
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> mini runs on a uab like any other install
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> usb*
[00:38] <ubuntustudio> ... yes, I don't want to be on the live USB, I want to be running from my computer.... its the graphics issue.
[00:38] <fury> so, i have 13.04 x64 server on a server with a matrox G200ew card… i can't seem to get the thing off of vesafb with scroll mode: redraw, and the console is very slow. everything i've tried (uvesafb, matroxfb, various fiddlings of the grub default command line) has either turned the screen black, been ignored, or given me a warning in dmesg "ywrap is invalid for parameter scroll"
[00:39] <Rallias> wilee-nilee, Yeah but the mini.iso is really a clutz when it comes to USB.
[00:39] <fury> how can i get it to either accept that parameter, or use some other driver that scrolls fast
[00:39] <Rallias> Granted, I've taken a razor blade and used the mini.iso's initrd and vmlinuz to upgrade centos 5 to ubuntu 13.04, but that's a different story.
[00:40] <Oliver_> Rallias: Any ideas?
[00:40] <Oliver_> What bit torrent client do you guys use?
[00:40] <Rallias> Oliver_, I'm trying to remember what I did with my grandma's laptop...
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> fury:  tryed the 'nofb and text' boot options ?
[00:40] <Oliver_> Rallias: ?
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> Rallias, clutz, can you define that?
[00:40] <Dr_Willis> fury:  'noquiet nosplash nofb text'     i belive kills the framebuffer for me.
[00:41] <Oliver_> Dr_Willis: Do you have any ideas to fix my "wifi woes"?
[00:41] <Dr_Willis> Oliver_:  no idea. i rarely have wifi issues. I buy wifi cards/dongles known to work.
[00:41] <Rallias> Oliver_, What's the output of "sudo cat /proc/modules"
[00:42] <Rallias> wilee-nilee, I have to have a network connection to use it, and my datacenter doesn't have any sort of standardization as to which ethernet port they plug the bloody cable into.
[00:42] <fury> i believe i tried nofb and the screen ended up black
[00:42] <Oliver_> Rallias: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6053348/
[00:42] <fury> i'll give text a shot
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> Rallias, That is al personal opinions, no real world application,.
[00:43] <Dr_Willis> fury:  theres also the fbset command i recall to tweak the framebuffer consoles
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> network yes ill that is valid Rallias
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> all*
[00:44] <Rallias> wilee-nilee, Tell me that again once you've reinstalled 30-ish servers from openvz to xen with a s***** IPMI interface and 60-80 ms latency.
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> Rallias, This channel is for facts not opinions, period. ;)
[00:44] <Rallias> wilee-nilee, And that's why I'm providing evidence to substantiate my argument.
[00:45] <zymaster> Hello everyone, I am experiencing some problems with my ubuntu install. I attempted to install NVIDIA driver but it skrewed up by computer horribly. I think I managed to fully get rid of it but now my desktop has no Unity. I opened ccsm from terminal and tried to enable Unity plugin, but it wouldn't let me. Same with OpenGl and any other plugins requiring OpenGL. Any ideas? I'm kind of desparate.
[00:45] <sere> wilee-nilee: to get your nexus to sync music did you mess with .is_audio_player by any chance
[00:45] <kostkon> zymaster, just try to reset it.  http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> sere, I just synced the htc dna straight with rhythm box in 13.04 the nexus was just data trandfer
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> transfer*
[00:46] <Rallias> Oliver_, Run the following command: "sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb && sudo modprobe b43"
[00:46] <Oliver_> ok
[00:46] <zymaster> kostkon: alright, I'll try that thanks
[00:47] <kostkon> zymaster, np
[00:47] <fury> nope, nofb text in the command line did nothing - vesafb started right up
[00:47] <fury> hmm
[00:47] <Oliver_> Rallias: Nothing happened, entered exactly what you put and it gave me another command linne
[00:47] <sere> wilee-nilee: ah ok...i believe i will have this up and running soon .. hopefully :)
[00:48] <Rallias> Oliver_, Unfortunately, I don't know what else to try :/
[00:48] <Oliver_> Rallias: Ok.  I'm sure I'll figure something out.
[00:48] <fury> lemme see what fbset does
[00:49] <Oliver_> So how do I go about theming ubuntu and installing stuff?
[00:49] <junktext> zymaster, are you trying to manually install an NVIDIA driver? If so, I wouldn't recommend it in general, as NVIDIA's stock installer doesn't work well for Ubuntu (and other distros).  Stick with the NVIDIA drivers provided by Ubuntu itself (as it comes with a few of them known to work).
[00:49] <Oliver_> How do I open an apt link?
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> Oliver_, open an apt link, what do you mean?
[00:50] <zymaster> junktext: yeah I realize that was a bad idea now. I'm just trying to sort of reset ubuntu so I can try again with the other safer method
[00:50] <Oliver_> Trying to dowload deluge wilee-nilee
[00:50] <wilee-nilee> Oliver_, sudo apt-get install deluge
[00:51] <kostkon> Oliver_, open the software centre, search for it and click install
[00:51] <junktext> Yeah, I've been where you are, zymaster.  Yeah, the Ubuntu versions of the NVIDIA drivers may be somewhat older, but at least they work.
[00:51] <fury> fbset can't change the scroll mode from redraw to ywrap, can it?
[00:51] <Oliver_> Is Deluge any good?
[00:51] <Johnny_Linux> nvidia-current is prolly best
[00:51] <kostkon> Oliver_, deluge and qbitorrent are the best gui torrent apps
[00:52] <Oliver_> kostkon: Ok
[00:52] <Oliver_> So do I need to reboot for it to take affect after doing the sudo command?
[00:52] <kostkon> Oliver_, nope
[00:52] <Oliver_> Ok, so now what than?
[00:52] <wilee-nilee> Oliver_, If you need to reboot the computer tells you.
[00:53] <Johnny_Linux> relax
[00:53] <kostkon> Oliver_, click on the ubuntu icon, search for it in the dash, click on its icon
[00:53] <decci> I am facing issue with environmental variable setup
[00:53] <Oliver_> Nevermind.
[00:53] <Oliver_> I found it.
[00:53] <zymaster> kostkon: that didn't work I ran all the commands but unity still won't appear
[00:53] <Oliver_> Does anybody use docky?
[00:53] <Johnny_Linux> cairo
[00:53] <fury> the other thing is, when i try to use uvesafb, it starts up vesafb first and then uvesafb is like "can't get region…"
[00:54] <kostkon> zymaster, did you restart unity after the reset
[00:54] <wilee-nilee> Oliver_, YOu want to get orientatted to using this channel opinions like is the good or best are not valid, nor is anyone, state the issues for help. ;)
[00:54] <zymaster> kostkon: what's the command for that?
[00:54] <Oliver_> wilee-nilee: Ok
[00:55] <kostkon> zymaster, what version of ubuntu are you on
[00:55] <zymaster> kostkon: 13.04
[00:55] <kostkon> zymaster, try: setsid unity
[00:56] <zymaster> kostkon: nope, got a bunch of "compiz (core) - Error: Failed to load plugin: someplugin"
[00:57] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, messing with compiz may need a logout or reboot at times.
[00:57] <kostkon> zymaster, try rebooting
[00:57] <zymaster> alright I will be right back on this channel
[00:58] <asdfii> hi all
[01:02] <ubuntustudio> Hello, I have been here in the past to ask this same question, I've been having issues with it for months and months and months now - any help would be GREATLY appreciated.  Essentially when I install Ubuntu - of any sort - it successfully installs but than the Radeon graphics card driver apparently doesn't work and the screen just turns on and off after boot.  WOrks great off usb.    Here is my driver info: http://paste.ubuntu.
[01:02] <ubuntustudio> com/6053323/ - also worth noting I've tried multiple times to DL the newest driver from Radeon site and the .run opens SO slow after 3 hours it was less than 25%, needless to say I quit out of that each time.... I've tried all the drivers I was able to find... and now I am unsure of how to even have these updates effect my actual filesystem on myPC - not just the USB, as I set up a 1.4G persistence.  Lastly it is worth noting
[01:02] <ubuntustudio> that RANDOMLY it will work after the install, meaning, the graphics driver just works, the screen does not blink on and off.  THe only reason it doesn't still work is I've had to reinstall due to other issues.
[01:03] <palomer> hello
[01:03] <palomer> is there a way to listen to a port on my own system?
[01:03] <palomer> I want to imitate a library
[01:04] <ubuntustudio> sorry, closed the app  :/
[01:04] <ubuntustudio> Hello, I have been here in the past to ask this same question, I've been having issues with it for months and months and months now - any help would be GREATLY appreciated.  Essentially when I install Ubuntu - of any sort - it successfully installs but than the Radeon graphics card driver apparently doesn't work and the screen just turns on and off after boot.  WOrks great off usb.    Here is my driver info: http://paste.ubuntu.
[01:04] <ubuntustudio> com/6053323/ - also worth noting I've tried multiple times to DL the newest driver from Radeon site and the .run opens SO slow after 3 hours it was less than 25%, needless to say I quit out of that each time.... I've tried all the drivers I was able to find... and now I am unsure of how to even have these updates effect my actual filesystem on myPC - not just the USB, as I set up a 1.4G persistence.  Lastly it is worth noting
[01:04] <ubuntustudio> that RANDOMLY it will work after the install, meaning, the graphics driver just works, the screen does not blink on and off.  THe only reason it doesn't still work is I've had to reinstall due to other issues.
[01:04] <OerHeks> ubuntustudio, dual gpu, does the ati site give info ? or https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[01:05] <zymaster> kostkon: still didn't work.
[01:06] <ubuntustudio> OerHeks:  I am going to look at this link now, thank you.
[01:06] <ubuntustudio> Dual gpu is what I have?
[01:06] <OerHeks> ubuntustudio, yes, i avoid those machines, good luck
[01:06] <kostkon> zymaster, you downloaded the unity-reset utility and ran it, right
[01:06] <ubuntustudio> Could you breifly explain to me what that means?
[01:07] <zymaster> kostkon: no the ppa's were outdated and returned 404s so I ran the alternative commands the link gave me
[01:07] <ubuntustudio> nevermind, the link says it!
[01:08] <decci> Hi I am facing this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6053399/
[01:09] <asso8700> !ciao
[01:09] <asso8700> !list
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> ubuntustudio, thise posts being so long and full of unneeded info and copy and pasted close together just get you ignored by some
[01:09] <ubuntustudio> Sorry about that, I was told I should repost if I hear nothing
[01:09] <ubuntustudio> Did not mean to be rude by any means.
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> ubuntustudio, at the most 10 min, and keep it to what is needed to be known, ;)
[01:10] <kostkon> zymaster, you could try reinstalling the ubuntu-desktop metapackage just to be sure:  sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[01:10] <ubuntustudio> OK, I was hoping to have all the info one might need included... again, I'll work on that, sorry!
[01:11] <zymaster> kostkon: alright thanks I'll try that
[01:11] <ubuntustudio> :)
[01:11] <zymaster> rebooting now brb
[01:12] <ubuntustudio> DerHeks:  That link you sent me has a section, "Using vga_switcheroo" - would you be able to tell me which option would be the likely one I'd need to use?
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> zymaster, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ will tell you what is missing if needed.
[01:14] <chamunks> Is there a commandline social media posting / message sending service?
[01:14] <chamunks> or something that I can install.
[01:14] <kostkon> zymaster, then you could just try installing the nvidia driver from the repos. sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[01:16] <zymaster_> kostkon: didn't work, I don't know but I think it might be something with me not having a driver capable of doing opengl since I can't enable that in ccsm, maybe there's a way to reset driver?
[01:17] <kostkon> zymaster_, sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[01:17] <zymaster_> kostkon: thanks
[01:18] <CurlyGrogan> Hey y'all, relatively fresh ubuntu install, new to freenode.. where should a life-long GUI user hang out to learn a little more?
[01:18] <kostkon> !info finch |  chamunks, for im check this
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> !manual | CurlyGrogan
[01:18] <CurlyGrogan> great! I tried using vim for the first time.. took me about 20 minutes to append a line to a config file. :D
[01:19] <CurlyGrogan> getting used to it now, though
[01:19] <andrej> ubuntu 12.04, rsyslog 5.8.6.  Trying to push messages from freeradius into a separate file (not syslog).
[01:19] <andrej> I created /etc/rsyslog.d/21-freeradius.conf, which says: :msg,contains,"freeradius" /var/log/freeradius.log
[01:19] <andrej> My file gets created, but lines from the radius server only end up in /var/log/syslog still - what did I miss?
[01:25] <CurlyGrogan> So I am trying to turn this linux box into a neat-o VPN + IRC server + seedbox + media streaming center. I'm stuck on step 1, the VPN. To what extent is this like trying to put a new engine in a car the first time you open the hood?
[01:26] <fury> hmm. i've done a little more digging, and it would appear that vesafb does not do ywrap or ypan under amd64. how can i disable vesafb so that uvesafb works?
[01:29] <andrej> and to answer my own question: the name of the program isn't part of the message, so I had to change :msg,contains,"freeradius" /var/log/freeradius.log to :programname,equals,"freeradius" /var/log/freeradius.log
[01:34] <arowana> Hi All. Good Morning
[01:34] <name5566> goodmorning all
[01:35] <darkangel> Hey whats faster and stabler? Ubuntu or Zorin?
[01:36] <name5566> Zorin？
[01:36] <kostkon> darkangel, try both
[01:36] <darkangel> done tryed just makin sure
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> darkangel, This is ubuntu support not polling
[01:37] <darkangel> ok
[01:37] <DynaMc> Hmm never had this problem before, but getting ('Error: Unknown filesystem.') and kicked to grub rescue for a ubuntu server install.. any suggestions or reinstall and partition.. I was trying to do raid0 on a new box.
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> DynaMc, There is a #ubuntu-server channel if needed.
[01:41] <Oliver_> Rallias: Guess who's on wifi now...
[01:45] <name5566> oliver, what's your meaning?
[01:46] <name5566> oliver
[01:46] <Oliver_> name5566: Ys?
[01:46] <Oliver_> yes
[01:46] <wilee-nilee> !tab | name5566
[01:46] <Oliver_> name5566: What do you mean by what is my meanting?
[01:51] <onca> I have a lovely new partitioning scheme where sda4 is a LVM "crypto" which has one partition "ubuntu" with my root filesystem on it, and my boot partition is simply sda1 however my system complains at boot and fails because it couldn't open /dev/mapper/ubuntu. What do I have to do to make my kernel open sda4 as /dev/crypto and /dev/crypto/ubuntu as /dev/mapper/ubuntu?
[01:52] <zymaster> kostkon: Thanks, my system is pretty much restored and working, but now somehow my system is stuck with my driver being "Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.2, 256 bits)" which I'll assume is crappy and is using my integrated graphics and not my dedicated card, so I was wondering if you or anyone else knows of the safe way to install nvidia drivers. Thanks
[01:52] <aaas> anyone know how to get the boot scroll (all those info/error messsages) that occur at boot and pipe it to a file (or show in a log somewhere; dont see them in syslog or messages)
[01:53] <indoome> Sup Ubuntu <333
[01:57] <zymaster> anyone know the safe way to install nvidia drivers? I have tried so many ways so many times and skrewed up my system each time.
[01:59] <jrib> !nvidia | zymaster
[01:59] <zymaster> thanks jrib
[02:11] <stirnwer> test
[02:11] <aeon-ltd> stirnwer: test failed
[02:12] <n1670> hello?
[02:12] <n1670> anyone mind helping?
[02:13] <stirnwer> ok... a question regarding fdisk and boot flags
[02:13] <lotuspsychje> stirnwer: ask away
[02:13] <stirnwer> in fdisk, if i choose "a" for toggling a bootable flag, does that just mean that the chosen partition gets a boot flag, or does it mean that the chosen partition gets a bootflag, and whichever partition had it before, loses it?
[02:13] <n1670> i have a question about ndiswrapper.
[02:13] <n1670> well, a problem with ndiswrapper
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> !info testdisk | stirnwer
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> stirnwer: thats a nice package, where it all will make sense for you
[02:15] <stirnwer> lotuspsychje, mainly wondering whether setting a boot flag for /dev/sda4 will disturb my current boot config where grub is written into the MBR of the hd. i just want lilo installed on the fourth partition, not into the MBR
[02:15] <lotuspsychje> n1670: you could try to describe your problemmate?
[02:15] <n1670> yes
[02:15] <n1670> private chat me please?
[02:15] <lotuspsychje> n1670: no sorry, ask in channel mate
[02:16] <n1670> alright
[02:16] <n1670> allow me to start from the beginning
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> stirnwer, Why would you need lilo in a partition with grub in the mbr?
[02:17] <n1670> erm
[02:17] <n1670> hmm
[02:17] <n1670> i installed ndiswrapper
[02:18] <bazhang> !enter | n1670
[02:19] <n1670> i had installed the ndiswrapper and then after that i put my windows wireless drivers on there which was netwg121 and restarted my pc - the lights on the wireless adapter were working and the network list showed up
[02:20] <n1670> however, every time i tried connecting to my home network, it constantly kept asking for my wifi pw
[02:20] <itanshi> What is a good laptop spec range for doing programming tutorials? (or a chatroom to ask that at)
[02:21] <n1670> so anything i can do to fix the bug?
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> spec range?   I imagien most any laptop these days can do basic programing tasks
[02:21] <stirnwer> wilee-nilee, lilo loads ttylinux nicely. i could experiment without later
[02:21] <Dr_Willis> most likely you want to decide your budget, then  find the best deal for the $$$
[02:22] <stirnwer> wilee-nilee, but ive read a little, and i now think that if i add boot flag to e.g. the fourth partition, then it will disappear from the partition which currently has it, disturbing my boot config
[02:23] <n1670> so anyone have a suggestion?
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> stirnwer, Not sure you need either I believe grub will boot it.
[02:23] <lotuspsychje> n1670: did you install windows wifi drivers on ubuntu?
[02:23] <n1670> yes i just said that lol
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> n1670:  see if can connect to your network if its dosent use any encryption/password  (as a quick term test)
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> theres cases where some drivers dont like specific types of encryption i recall.
[02:24] <lotuspsychje> n1670: did the windows driver have a linux folder inside?
[02:24] <n1670> uhh
[02:24] <n1670> no
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> hes using ndiswrapper ;) that uses the windows driver files.
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> which is getting to be a rare thing these days.. having to use ndiswrapper.
[02:25] <lotuspsychje> Dr_Willis: doesnt he need the proper wifi drivers?
[02:25] <n1670> what kinds of encryption?
[02:25] <n1670> oh i do
[02:25] <Dr_Willis> lotuspsychje:  ngiswrapper uses the windows .inf stuff or somthing. i had to use it once. ages ago
[02:25] <lotuspsychje> n1670: whats your wifi card chipset?
[02:25] <n1670> ndiswrapper reads it as - netwg121: driver installed
[02:25] <n1670> netwg121
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> stirnwer, At the least the grub  40_custom
[02:25] <Oliver_> Would anybody be able to help me with a small project?
[02:26] <lotuspsychje> n1670: whats the cards name/brand?
[02:26] <itanshi> well it'd take screen and sound recording so imagine a bit nicer spec range than just that
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> n1670:  wep/wpa/wpa2 that stuff..  on the router. see if you can  get it to connect if you use some of the other modes
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> !anybody | Oliver_
[02:26] <n1670> it reads it all and everything and the name is Netgear WG121
[02:26] <Oliver_> Now that I have this second laptop running Ubuntu is there a way for me to set it up as a VPN?  So that I can use it as a tunnel while on my Android phone.
[02:26] <Oliver_> Or a file server?
[02:26] <Dr_Willis> !vpn
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> file server -- just install the services you want.
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> ssh, samba, whatever
[02:27] <Oliver_> Wow.  There's something for evrything is't there.
[02:27] <Dr_Willis> i use andftp to get to my linux box via ssh all the time.
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> n1670: did you check your additional drivers section if your netgear appears?
[02:27] <n1670> let me see
[02:28] <n1670> its not there
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> !wifi | n1670
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> n1670: check if your models shows in list
[02:29] <n1670> it does
[02:29] <n1670> i went to system settings > network > wireless
[02:29] <Oliver_> How do I stop seeding in Deluge?
[02:29] <n1670> and i see all of the networks around me
[02:29] <n1670> hit stop
[02:29] <n1670> or pause
[02:30] <Oliver_> There's no stop afaik
[02:30] <Oliver_> But pause will work?
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> Oliver_: set uploads speed to 1?
[02:30] <n1670> yes
[02:30] <Oliver_> Can't seed on my netwrk
[02:30] <Dr_Willis> n1670:  see any open networks you can try to connect to? ;)
[02:30] <n1670> no open networks
[02:30] <Oliver_> Nevermind.  I got it.
[02:31] <n1670> all have security
[02:31] <n1670> my encryption key is correct
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> try some of the other types of encryption. Ive defainatly heard of some wifi cards/drivers in linux not working with  some modes.
[02:32] <Dr_Willis> not a great thing i know..but its a test you can try
[02:32] <n1670> ok lemme try
[02:32] <lotuspsychje> n1670: on wich ubuntu version are you?
[02:33] <n1670> ubuntu 13.04
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> n1670: did you clean install or upgrade? did your wifi driver installed by default?
[02:34] <n1670> wifi driver is not installed by default and yes i did
[02:35] <Oliver_> Can you get viruses/spyware/malware on Ubuntu?  I don't think you can, but maybe it's just very rare.  Noob question here.
[02:35] <n1670> its hard to
[02:36] <n1670> like youd have to try to lol
[02:36] <Oliver_> Care to explain why?
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> Oliver_:  viruses - unlikely -   i know of none. malware - you have do so some reallys stupid things.
[02:36] <Oliver_> Wouldn't open source be easier to infect?
[02:36] <n1670> because all of your personal belongings are kept under root access
[02:36] <Oliver_> Dr_Willis: Thanks.
[02:36] <n1670> no
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> Oliver_:  just the opposite. More peer review.
[02:36] <n1670> it's harder
[02:36] <Oliver_> Which means?
[02:36] <Oliver_> Ah.  OK.  Ic
[02:36] <Dr_Willis> wine somemalware.exe     ;)
[02:37] <n1670> lol
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> biggest danger i see to a ubuntu/linux box - is the end user doing somthing stupid
[02:37] <Oliver_> Dr_Willis: Isn't Wine a Windows like linux distro?
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> Oliver_:  No.
[02:37] <Dr_Willis> !wine
[02:37] <n1670> question - would WPA, WPA2 work with ndiswrapper?
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> n1670:  ive heard of cases where wpa2 dident work. but wpa did.  and so on.
[02:38] <n1670> how do you use wpa and not wpa2
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> set it on your router
[02:38] <n1670> it says WPA and WPA2 together
[02:39] <Oliver_> Dr_Willis: That's what I meant by Windows like.  It's basically emulation?
[02:39] <n1670> errrr ok
[02:39] <Oliver_> I had an idea of what it was, but could'nt formulate it quite right
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> Oliver_:  wine is not a disrto. wine lets you run windoes executables on linux
[02:39] <n1670> wait how?
[02:39] <Oliver_> ok
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> its not an emulator
[02:39] <n1670> actually nvm
[02:39] <n1670> ill figure it out, brb
[02:39] <Oliver_> Dr_Willis: Ok.  I'm still reading in to it.
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> wine solitare.exe     ;) runs the windows solitare game
[02:40] <Oliver_> Cool
[02:40] <Dr_Willis> if you got the exe ;P
[02:41] <Oliver_> So would I be able to setup this laptop at my home as a VPN.  And when I'm at school on the school's wifi, would I be able to tunnel to this laptop and avoid the school firewall?
[02:41] <Oliver_> Or would I need to work it a different way.
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> Oliver_:  or a ssh tunnle
[02:41] <Dr_Willis> vpn is not the same as  a ssh tunnle
[02:41] <Oliver_> Dr_Willis: But that was the basic idea right?
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> depends on what all the firewall does.  if you can ssh out.. you basically are out. ;)
[02:42] <NeonSpeed> How can I change my mouse cursor? I have tried using Ubuntu tweak and unity tweak tool but they only make the cursor change is certain programs
[02:43] <Oliver_> Ok.  They're FW blocks sites like Facebook, Twitter, and other sites that my teachers want us to use sometimes such as non .edu domains.  I'm thinking about doing this because it will be easier than the current process.
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> NeonSpeed:  you logged out/back in since youve changed the cursor?
[02:43] <NeonSpeed> Dr_Willis, Yeah and when I go in my browser the cursor is the new one but in everything else it is the stock cursor
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> NeonSpeed:  i think it has somting to do with gtk vs nongtk apps.. ive seen people ask a similer question befor. and never seen a good answer
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> askubuntu.com may have some info on it
[02:45] <Oliver_> What would be the easiest way to transfer my music from my primary laptop to this one?
[02:45] <wmorri> hi, is there a way to install mariadb without removing mysql?
[02:45] <NeonSpeed> Dr_Willis, It worked the first time I changed my cursor but now it doesn't work anymore
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> Oliver_:  dropbox ;)
[02:46] <Oliver_> Even if it's copyrighted music?
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> Oliver_:  depends on how they are networked also
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> dropbox stores your stuff..
[02:46] <Oliver_> Dr_Willis: They're literally next to each other atm
[02:46] <crazyharry> can I install Linux Ubuntu/Mint as a dual boot on a computer with Windows 8 having bitlocker on ? I already created two partition for linux native and swap
[02:46] <Dr_Willis> Oliver_:  if they are networked on the same lan. you can use ssh/scp/sshfs to do some transfers
[02:47] <Oliver_> ok
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> Oliver_:  or set up some samba shares
[02:47] <Oliver_> Some whats?
[02:47] <sere> anyone know why synaptic would be asking for two passwords and only needs the first to work
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> !samba
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> sere:  launch it from a terminal see if it asks?
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> sere:  i think the default menu launcher runs 'gksudo synaptic'
[02:48] <Gedge_> hello
[02:48] <Gedge_> I fixed ndiswrapper, thank you!
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> Gedge_:  oh? How.
[02:48] <Gedge_> I turned off WPA2
[02:48] <Gedge_> And made it WPA only
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> Gedge_:  you worked around a bug/issue in ndiswrapper. :)
[02:49] <Gedge_> It apparently also made my internet a lot more stable too
[02:49] <sere> Dr_Willis: ahh ok.. that sounds right in terminal with sudo it doesnt ask for another
[02:49] <Gedge_> :3 ty.
[02:49] <sere> Dr_Willis: ty
[02:49] <Gedge_> Running on - Core i7-Extreme, Raedon HD 7950, 32 GBs of ram, Two 512 SSDs
[02:49] <Gedge_> :3
[02:50] <Gedge_> Anyone know how to make linux look more unique?
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> Gedge_:  linux techincally is just the kernel. ;)
[02:50] <Gedge_> True. lol
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu uses Unity as the default GUI.
[02:50] <Gedge_> I'm using Compiz
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> Compiz is a window maanger, unity is a plugin for compiz
[02:50] <crazyharry> can I install Linux Ubuntu/Mint as a dual boot on a computer with Windows 8 having bitlocker on ? I already created two partition for linux native and swap
[02:50] <Gedge_> Ohhh
[02:51] <Gedge_> Uhh
[02:51] <Gedge_> I'm having a keyring problem.
[02:51] <Gedge_> It says - "Enter password to unlock your login keyring."
[02:51] <Gedge_> I enter it in, it says it's wrong.
[02:51] <rhin0> need to develop fast for ipad .. viable on ubuntu?  ubuntu is my platform - do not need a mac.
[02:52] <Gedge_> OS X = A crappy unix based software to me
[02:52]  * rhin0 sips coffee
[02:52] <CountryfiedLinux> How long are non-LTS releases supported for?  I jumped a quantum leap to 12.04
[02:53] <Gedge_> We all know how Windows 7 is soon to be outdated lol
[02:53] <ClientTest> lmao
[02:53] <Gedge_> DX 11.2 is gonna be for windows 8 only, luckily, we don't need to worry about thaqt.
[02:53] <Gedge_> :3
[02:53] <rhin0> I need to develop i-apps
[02:53] <ClientTest> win7 is nice tbh
[02:53] <Gedge_> It is
[02:53] <rhin0> some sites telling me I need a mac
[02:53] <Gedge_> But linux makes you do whatever you want.
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> guys, stick to ubuntu support please
[02:54] <ClientTest> i'd only use linux for python scripting..
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> use #ubuntu-offtopic for other discussions
[02:54] <wmorri> hi, is there a way to install mariadb without removing mysql?
[02:54] <CountryfiedLinux> What about the people that have new hardware when the next LTS is out but can't use it because their graphics card is too new for Debian Testing? After 9 months are they supposed to just go 3 months without updates or just upgrade to the latest alpha for the next release?
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> !lts | CountryfiedLinux
[02:55] <CountryfiedLinux> Oh nvm 6 months between releases sorry
[02:55] <CountryfiedLinux> I was thinking 12 for some reason :P sorry
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> CountryfiedLinux:  thats what  ubuntu point releases often address - they updated the graphic stack and kernel i belive
[02:55] <CountryfiedLinux> Dr_Willis: in LTS?
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> 12.04.4  uses  some new stuff for newer hardware
[02:55] <Gedge_> I have a big problem.
[02:55] <CountryfiedLinux> Dr_Willis: Oh that is good news then.
[02:55] <CountryfiedLinux> thanks
[02:56] <Gedge_> Keyring password says it's wrong and it's not.
[02:56] <maximusmaximus2> well i just got back from watching jackass 1,2,3,and 3.5
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> i dont worry about sticking to LTS. ;)
[02:56] <CountryfiedLinux> me neither
[02:56] <CountryfiedLinux> one more question
[02:56] <Gedge_> lol
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> !ot | maximusmaximus2
[02:56] <CountryfiedLinux> When an LTS is released, does the release behind the LTS actually have newer packages?
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> Gedge_: keyring password and your wifi password are not the same right
[02:57] <CountryfiedLinux> Because that would feel kinda funny upgrading to the latest release just for it to have older packages than what you've got :P
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> CountryfiedLinux:  i doubt if thats the case
[02:57] <CountryfiedLinux> And I hear that downgrading is riskier than upgrading packages, which is what a user would be doing
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> since the older releae would be 6+ mo old.
[02:57] <aaas> for some reason i cant browse my network share from windows8 by hostname (\\servername) but can using ip \\<IP_ADDRESS>  i purged samba completely, reinstalled, installed winbind, modified nsswitch.conf to put 'wins' but i just cant brows by hostname...any suggestions
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> you dont really 'downgrade' packages in ubuntu to earlier releases
[02:58] <CountryfiedLinux> Dr_Willis: Is 6 months about the time between debian testing and sid?
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> aaas:  having to use ip# is a common thing.
[02:58] <aaas> Dr_Willis it works on my other computer fine
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> aaas:  i think theres some package  that helps it out. buti never can rember its name
[02:58] <aaas> actually it works for many people
[02:58] <aaas> i think winbind
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> I cant recall it ever working here. and i think its somthing other then windbind. but i cant recall the name. I looked it up once. ;) ages ago
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> I cheat and edit my hosts file. but these days i dont even use samba shares. so ive not had to fight withit in  a year or more
[02:59] <Gedge_> Uhh
[03:00] <ClientTest> hi
[03:00] <Gedge_> Keyring password = Your computers PW
[03:00] <ClientTest> sorry just testing my CLI client lol
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> Gedge_:  it dosent have to be.
[03:00] <gassho> how do i find out how much memory my graphics board has
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> aaas: maybe the #networking guys or #ubuntu-server guys might know?
[03:00] <aaas> yeah it was workign for AGES for me (I use samba for faster personal network speeds) ...i just dont know what happened
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> Gedge_:  but people often put that in when it first asks for the keyring password to use
[03:00] <nerdtron> gassho, on the BIOS
[03:00] <aaas> lotuspsychje ok thanks
[03:00] <gassho> what does BIOS mean
[03:00] <gassho> n tyvm
[03:00] <Gedge_> .->
[03:00] <Gedge_> Dude
[03:01] <Gedge_> Dr. Wilis, what is the default keyring pw?
[03:01] <nerdtron> gassho, the BIOS (reboot and see the SETUP) of the computer, you can see there the onboard video
[03:01] <BluesKaj> !bios | gassho
[03:02] <Oliver_> My new chair is from the fbi...
[03:13] <sirajperson> hmmmm
[03:14] <sirajperson> nobody around
[03:14] <BluesKaj> some are
[03:15] <Pinkamena_D> how can you change the icon for the terminal that appears on the launcher
[03:16] <Dr_Willis> Pinkamena_D:  edit the  apps .desktop file would be one way
[03:17] <lotuspsychje> sirajperson: ask your question mate
[03:17] <Pinkamena_D> would you know what folder would be useful to search for that in in a default installation?
[03:17] <sirajperson> any pros around? I have been trying to get my Ubuntu Svr to display shades of colors but can't since it isnt using vt100
[03:18] <sirajperson> anyone know how to get vt100 term through VGA?
[03:18] <sirajperson> (without X)
[03:18] <sirajperson> maybe there's just some concept I dont get about vt10*
[03:19] <sirajperson> I have been searching around google for hours now, so I thought it might be a good idea to come here to discuss the topic.
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> sirajperson: ubuntu server?
[03:19] <sirajperson> yepers
[03:19] <qin> Pinkamena_D: dpkg -L name; man dpkg
[03:20] <lotuspsychje> sirajperson: maybe the #ubuntu-server guys might know your issue?
[03:20] <BluesKaj> !vtest | sirajperson
[03:20] <sirajperson> I have an ubuntu server install that I would like to display shades of blue/green to report data from a script i wrote
[03:20] <BluesKaj> !info vtest | sirajperson
[03:20] <BluesKaj> hmm
[03:21] <sirajperson> just a sec, I'll give it a shot
[03:22] <sirajperson> hmmm, is vtest a package?
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> !info vttest
[03:22] <BluesKaj> sirajperson, yes
[03:22] <sirajperson> okay, let me go for vttest
[03:22] <sirajperson> ;-)
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: tnx for the hint
[03:22] <Dr_Willis> sirajperson:  so how are you connected to the linux box? a serial terminal?
[03:23] <sirajperson> downloading.
[03:23] <sirajperson> :-) this channel is the best :-)
[03:23] <sirajperson> ubuntu communit is awesome!
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> !cookie | BluesKaj
[03:23] <BluesKaj> :)
[03:27] <sirajperson> okie dokie
[03:27] <sirajperson> I ran the tests
[03:28] <sirajperson> Not sure if this is quite what the trouble is.
[03:29] <sirajperson> vttest is tests the screen for vt100 functionality, but doesnt give it the functionality if it doesn't have it. The problem is that I cannot make shades of colors with a monitor attached to the VGA of my server install
[03:31] <sirajperson> example::::                 for i in {16..30}; do; echo -en "$CLR_HEAD${i}m${i} $CLR_CR"; done; echo
[03:31] <sirajperson> only prints one color of blue, instead of dark blue( almost black ) to light blue
[03:32] <sirajperson> So, I guess the question is, how do you make a server install show display text color shades without installing X?
[03:36] <sirajperson> when i read the info for xvt, it says that xvt is a vt100 emulator for X windows, is there a way to get a vt100 terminal without installing X windows (an alternative to xvt)?
[03:37] <chgojoe> can someone please help me with an ubuntu 13.04 installation issue?
[03:38] <hanasaki> how to install grub on sdb ?    ran grub-install and it does boot to grub... but the kernel is not run... just comes up grub>  prompt
[03:38] <chgojoe> I am totally new to irc and ubuntu
[03:38] <sirajperson> oh, there is a handy tool for grub. do you have a graphical display working?
[03:38] <hanasaki> sirajperson:  ya
[03:39] <sirajperson> checkout boot-repair. its a gui tool that lets you customize all that is Grub :-)
[03:40] <chgojoe> can someone help me? I have NO desktop after install
[03:40] <chgojoe> something about compiz
[03:40] <sirajperson> hmmmm, did you have a desktop from live cd?
[03:40] <hanasaki> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "boot-repair"
[03:41] <sirajperson> try help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[03:41] <chgojoe> I used a few different versions when I realized I didnt know what the hell I WAS doing lol
[03:41] <hanasaki> sirajperson:  any help via the command line?
[03:41] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, try google bootrepair
[03:42] <chgojoe> I also tried to google my issue and couldnt figure it out
[03:42] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, save that bootinfo summary url.
[03:42] <sirajperson> sure: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:yannubuntu/boot-repair && sudo apt-get update
[03:42] <sirajperson> sudo apt-get install -y boot-repair && (boot-repair &)
[03:43] <hanasaki> sirajperson:  lol i mean to fix it by had
[03:43] <hanasaki> hand
[03:43] <hanasaki> thanks wilee-nilee
[03:44] <hanasaki> is ubuntu going to continue adding more commercial stuff? like unity suggests amazon movies to buy when i search on my  hard drive
[03:44] <hanasaki> ??
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, YOu can turn that off or remove.
[03:44] <sirajperson> LoL, okie dokie: if your looking to fix by hand we are going to need to know more about partition scheme.
[03:44] <hanasaki> like whoopsie?
[03:44] <hanasaki> wilee-nilee:  where?
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, they are lenses, I use synaptic.
[03:45] <wilee-nilee> !lenses
[03:45] <hanasaki> lenses?
[03:46] <hanasaki> sirajperson:  what do you want to know?
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> hanasaki, http://www.itworld.com/software/354007/disable-online-search-lenses-ubuntu-1304
[03:50] <zymaster> hey I'm having a slight problem installing my nvidia drivers. I'm using Ubuntu 13.04 with an Nvidia GeForge GT 650M. I've read that under software sources/additional drivers you can install proprietary drivers but for some reason no drivers show up for me on that tab. Any ideas? thanks
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> zymaster: what are the symptons you have under your default driver?
[03:52] <zymaster> lotuspsychje: well for one I'm pretty sure it's just using my integrated graphics and not my dedicated card, and I want to get as much performance as possible.
[03:52] <sirajperson> to reset compiz, you may want to try opening a terminal by pressing: ctrl+alt+t
[03:52] <sirajperson> then typing:: unity --reset
[03:54] <zymaster> also its a little flaky and slow sometimes
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> zymaster: lshw -c video please?
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> zymaster: what does driver= show?
[03:55] <chgojoe> the rest option is now deprecated is what I get
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> chgojoe, A bit more detailed description might help, do you get to the login?
[03:56] <zymaster> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/A3EXNx66
[03:56] <tux_> hello, what are the command lines to access an encrypted Ubuntu home folder? thanks
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> zymaster: its integrated intel graphics on board?
[03:58] <zymaster> lotuspsychje: yeah its intel integrated graphics on my processor but I want to use my nvidia card
[03:58] <zymaster> thanks btw
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> zymaster: ok did you disable onboard graphics in bios?
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> !nvidia | zymaster
[03:59] <zymaster> lotuspsychje: no I'll try that thanks
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> zymaster: then install your nvidia ubuntu drivers
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> !info nvidia-current
[03:59] <wilee-nilee> tux_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> gtg work
[04:00] <lotuspsychje> greetz
[04:01] <tux_> ok wilee-nilee i'll try that out
[04:02] <wilee-nilee> tux_, Without a context it is kinda difficult to help you for the channel.
[04:03] <chgojoe> how do I get online with no desktop
[04:04] <BoomerBile> is there any way to get rid of the annoying flash plugin installer message?
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> chgojoe, Did the install medium get to a live desktop?
[04:05] <BoomerBile> The following packages requested additional data downloads after package installation but the data could not be downloaded or could not be processed. . . flashplugin-installer . . This is a permanent falure that leaves these packages unusable on your system.
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> BoomerBile, what packages what context?
[04:06] <BoomerBile> i just typed the error out
[04:06] <chgojoe> how do i access my wirless networks with nno desktop so I can get online to fix my compiz?
[04:06] <BoomerBile> wilee-nilee, i just typed it out for ya... context yellow light bulb
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> BoomerBile, Read the question
[04:07] <BoomerBile> happens every boot and randomly when it figures out that it needs to tell me that... flash works fine
[04:07] <wilee-nilee> BoomerBile, What were the packages, and how were you trying to install?
[04:07] <BoomerBile> when i run the suggested action it installs the plugin fine
[04:07] <BoomerBile> i wasn't trying to install anything
[04:07] <BoomerBile> it just keeps popping up
[04:08] <BoomerBile> it says flash plugin installed
[04:08] <BoomerBile> then the message comes up again
[04:08] <wilee-nilee> BoomerBile, Try sudo apt-get update?
[04:08] <BoomerBile> i've done that many times
[04:08] <BluesKaj> BoomerBile, firefox ?
[04:08] <BoomerBile> i've dist-upgraded 3 times and it's still going
[04:08] <BoomerBile> do-release-upgrade
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> BoomerBile, Starting at what release?
[04:09] <BoomerBile> flash works in firefox
[04:09] <BoomerBile> flash works everywhere
[04:09] <BoomerBile> starting at 10.xx
[04:09] <BoomerBile> did it in 12.04 and now 13 too
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> BoomerBile, NO eol upgrade eh?
[04:09] <BoomerBile> eol upgrade?
[04:09] <wilee-nilee> !eol
[04:10] <BoomerBile> i'm using a supported release
[04:10] <BoomerBile> 13.04
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> BoomerBile, not starting with 10.xx
[04:10] <BoomerBile> i've uninstalled and re-installed this package many times
[04:10] <BoomerBile> it's not 10.xx anymore it's 13
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> BoomerBile, Correct it is something, if done correctly you would have started with a eol specific upgrade at 10.xx, however maybe you will be lucky and this will be okay.
[04:12] <zymaster> Hey, that didn't work my BIOS wouldn't let me disable integrated graphics, so is there any other way to ensure that the right drivers show up for me in software sources/additional drivers because right now there are none. Thanks
[04:13] <BoomerBile> if you're saying that i should uninstall and re-install ubuntu then there is a reason that ubuntu is my last choice for an os and maybe i should install gentoo on my laptop, like on my desktop
[04:13] <BluesKaj> zymaster, you should b able to make the pci card the default without disabling the onboard.
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> do what pleases you, I'm just pointing out what you did that was wrong.
[04:13] <BluesKaj> in the bios
[04:14] <zymaster> BluesHaj: how I didn't see an option for that?
[04:14] <tux_> BoomerBile, try out Slitaz it is super fast and lightweight, and amazingly the ISO is only 30MB and it uses 30MB or ram!
[04:15] <BluesKaj> move pci card up in the graphics sequence/list, zymaster
[04:15] <BoomerBile> if'n i'm going to have to install another os, i'll go gentoo, the "releases" just work... been running the same install on my desktop since 2005 and all the upgrades work
[04:15] <BoomerBile> and i can install gentoo using ubuntu
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> OS's work when you follow the directions
[04:16] <zymaster> alright thanks BluesKaj, I'll brb if that doesn't work
[04:16] <BoomerBile> without rebooting or downloading a dvd/cd
[04:16] <tux_> BoomerBile, you can also try the Ubuntu based distro Trisquel, it doesn't have all the bloat of Ubuntu like the ads of Ubuntu One, Ubuntu Software Center, Amazon...
[04:16] <BoomerBile> wilee-nilee, i did... it said a new version of ubuntu is available... i clicked the upgrade button and waited 3 hours
[04:16] <BoomerBile> i use kubuntu
[04:17] <BoomerBile> wilee-nilee, then it said that again, so i did it again
[04:17] <BoomerBile> and then a third time
[04:18] <Dr_Willis> upgrades can break - depending on what ppas and other stuff. its often much faster to do a clean install instead of going through 3+ upgrades.. if you put off upgradeing that long
[04:18] <BoomerBile> if (k)ubuntu can't upgrade itself, i think gentoo will be a better decision...
[04:18] <digitalfiz> hey guys i have an issue with AMD drivers and 13.04. After installation of both choices my install only boots to a blinking cursor.  How can I uninstall them. Oh also hitting shift at boot doesnt give me anything
[04:18] <digitalfiz> either.
[04:19] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | digitalfiz
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  use what you want. we dont care. Upgrades to the next release CAN break. they ARE tested. but there still can be issues. Backups are a good idea. and  somthing like a Powerfailure during a Upgrade can be VERY bad.
[04:19] <BoomerBile> i seriously doubt this has anything to do with (k)ubuntu, it's a flash installer issue
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  clarify the exact problem please.
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> some one was in here yesterday having issues getting the flash-installer package to install flash.. then it suddendly worked for him. (not sure what he did)
[04:20] <digitalfiz> wilee-nilee: I cant get to grub for some reason. Its a fresh install and the only thing on the drive
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> digitalfiz, YOu tried the shift key?
[04:21] <BoomerBile> i log into X... in my taskbar i get a yellow light bulb that says there is a problem with a package... i click the yellow light bulb and an error pops up that says that flashplugin-installer didn't install properly, i click the fix problem button and wait while it downloads the flash plugin in a terminal, it says flash plugin installed and i close the terminal
[04:21] <digitalfiz> wilee-nilee: yes
[04:21] <Dr_Willis> press and HOLD shift - and if the grub menu is hidden is should have grub appear
[04:21] <BluesKaj> digitalfiz, hold the left shift key down right after the bios screen
[04:21] <BoomerBile> 5 minutes later i get the same light bulb
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> digitalfiz, The live cd get to a desktop?
[04:21] <wilee-nilee> or usb
[04:22] <BoomerBile> i'll see if i can get some screen shots of it
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile: id reinstall the flashplugin-installer package  with the command line. and see if any errors are mentioned, I THINK yesterday the guy removed/reinstalled the flashplugin-installer package, it might also be adobe renamed or did somthing to their servers
[04:22] <digitalfiz>  can boot the live cd but i dont know how to uninstall the drivers on my system once I boot the cd
[04:22] <BluesKaj> BoomerBile, just check your bios , we already know you probly prefer gentoo
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> apt-get error mesages would be more helpfull then screenshots
[04:22] <co-XZist> Dr_Willis:  does that also work if ubuntu is in a Vm ?
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> co-XZist:  does what also work?
[04:23] <co-XZist> Dr_Willis: the shift key
[04:23] <BoomerBile> BluesKaj, i prefer gentoo till it comes to slow machines and compiling ;)
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> co-XZist:  it should
[04:23] <BoomerBile> gentoo isn't very mobile
[04:23] <digitalfiz>  wilee-nilee: when I mount /sda1 I see some weird folders for EFI not what I expect
[04:23] <BluesKaj> BoomerBile, no kidding :)
[04:23] <co-XZist> Dr_Willis: ok thks, I'll give it  try
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> co-XZist:  i always setup grub where it never hides.
[04:24] <BoomerBile> ubuntu is definitely a good second choice... over most of the other distros i've used regularly (and i've tried them all for a year or two)
[04:24] <BoomerBile> sure beats slackware 1.0 and building my own system and finding my own deps
[04:25] <zymaster> That didn't work I can't change the priority of my graphics cards but anyway that's not my main problem  I have an nvidia GeForce GT 650M but I can't find any additional drivers in software sources. Is there a way to fix that?
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> zymaster:  its not a dual-gpu optimus system is it?
[04:25] <waterlite> hi all
[04:26] <zymaster> Dr_Willis: No just the one card and integrated graphics but I don't want to use that
[04:26] <xirre> ps -p [pid] -o pcpu > 'cpu.txt'   How could you turn this in to a command that reads CPU more accurately and current but still outputs to a text.
[04:26] <Dr_Willis> zymaster:  if you are feeling lucky - you can try installing the 'nvidia-current' package via apt-get  and see if it works
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> xirre:  accurately? meanind what? you want the temp in more decimal points?
[04:27] <digitalfiz> wilee-nilee: o you think the nomodset would help me thought because my problem is not until after I install the proprietary drivers. i was hoping to recover without reinstalling this time as that's the only way I know how to fix it
[04:27] <Dr_Willis> xirre:  or are you wanting to make a log file of the output every few min?
[04:28] <zymaster> Dr_Willis: Thanks, but I have done that so many times, one time my resolution get messed up, the other time all of my text gets reversed. Unless you know a safe way to do that I'd like to avoid that
[04:28] <Dr_Willis> reversed?
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> I just install the nvidia-current package on all my nvidia systems. rarely had an issue. but my cards are all 2+ yrs old these days
[04:29] <Dr_Willis> You can always get to the console/recovery mode and uninstall the packages i guess.
[04:29] <zymaster> Dr_Willis: Yeah it was hilarious but unusable everything got turned upside-down
[04:29] <xirre> Dr_Willis: Currently when using this method it seems if th process shoots up to 100% and back down to 0% that it'll take a while for this command to realize it's at 0% and instead it'll go down slowly by 0.1% every few seconds.
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> digitalfiz, The efi is a bit of a red flag, did this have a windows system at ine point now gone?
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> one*
[04:30] <BoomerBile> http://pastebin.com/UmLhwebc <<-- Dr_Willis
[04:30] <BoomerBile> going to re-log to see if the light bulb comes back brb
[04:30] <xirre> Dr_Willis: I want the file to only contain the current CPU of a specific process. It's for third party means. A server I'm making. This is the last piece I need. :)
[04:30] <digitalfiz> wilee-nilee: yeah but I had it working until I upgraded to 13.10 and broke it so I had to reinstall and now im getting this
[04:31] <tux_> is it possible to access my encrypted Ubuntu home folder with a liveCD or do i have to do something special?
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 | digitalfiz
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> tux_:  yes to both parts i think.
[04:31] <digitalfiz> yeah im not on 13.10 anymore :) I reinstalled with 13.04 and its broke, wasnt before
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> tux_:  you have to do somthign special from the live cd to access them
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> xirre:  you may want to ask in #bash  they are good with that sort of stuff
[04:32] <tux_> sudo ecryptfs-recover-private doesn't work
[04:32] <xirre> Dr_Willis: Thanks. Will do.
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> digitalfiz, I'm not up on uefi in general hard to say for me, however that is key info to include, and what when and how drivers you have installed.
[04:33]  * wilee-nilee is getting a gentoo tattoo right now
[04:34] <zymaster> Dr_Willis: wait it does have optimus its just not dual GPU, does that change anything?
[04:35] <waterlite> Hi all
[04:35] <digitalfiz> im typing from my tablet so its hard to type to much. I installed a fresh install of 13.04 when it was released and the proprietary drivers worked and then I forced an upgrade to 13.10 recently and messed everything up so I did another fresh install with 13.04 now and the proprietary drivers don't work.
[04:35] <wilee-nilee> waterlite, we see you this is support do you need any?
[04:35] <BoomerBile> Dr_Willis, http://imgur.com/qIx2K9H
[04:35] <BluesKaj> zymaster, optimus uses 2 gpus
[04:35] <waterlite> ya
[04:35] <waterlite> Any1 frm India
[04:35] <wilee-nilee> state it then
[04:35] <waterlite> Im indian
[04:36] <waterlite> need some help
[04:36] <wilee-nilee> !in
[04:36] <waterlite> hm
[04:36] <BoomerBile> wilee-nilee, that should be written in Indian ;)
[04:37] <wilee-nilee> that is a bot
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  does flash actually work - is the big question
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  the text log shows it installed.
[04:37] <BoomerBile> yes just fine Dr_Willis
[04:37] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  so theres some old error log file thats showing that info incorrectly would be my guess
[04:38] <BoomerBile> Dr_Willis, but i get that error regardless of the status of the package, if i uninstall it i still get the error, as you can see in my pastebin the package was not installed, still got that message
[04:38] <zymaster> BluesKaj: No that can't be true because this link says that optimus is just some sort of energy conserving system that comes onboard the card, without needing to, http://www.geforce.com/hardware/notebook-gpus/geforce-gt-650m/description
[04:38] <BluesKaj> !optimus
[04:38] <Dr_Willis> the error reporter has some log file that needs cleared out - is my guess.
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> i dont know if kde uses apport or not
[04:39] <BoomerBile> Dr_Willis, where to look?
[04:39] <BoomerBile>  /var/log?
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> I dont use kde. so not sure if its kde specific or not.
[04:39] <williangliao> Dr_Willis: do you remember when we fell in .....
[04:39] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  id check on askubuntu.com  someone may have had a similer issue
[04:39] <BoomerBile> thanks Dr_Willis
[04:39] <BluesKaj> zymaster, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Optimus
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> Optimus is not 'just' a engery conserving system. ;)
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> its a pain in the backside. ;)
[04:41] <zymaster> BluesKaj: Ohhh I get it, thanks sorry to incorrectly correct you. So does that mean my system is using both cards automatically?
[04:41] <Dr_Willis> zymaster:  in theory its supposed to switch from one card to the other as needed to save power, and reduce heat
[04:42] <elixir> How can I make wifi from ubuntu (provide lan sharing internet) for my android device? I used connectify in Windows but ain't getting a clue here, do we have a s/w?
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> !ics
[04:42] <zymaster> Dr_Willis: thanks, does that still work on linux
[04:42] <BluesKaj> if you install bumblebee zymaster , it might. there no guarantees
[04:42] <Dr_Willis> zymaster:  no idea. I dont have an optimus system. and i definatly plan on NOT ever getting one.
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> no uefi no optimus
[04:43] <james> hi
[04:44] <BluesKaj> getting away fron uefi is becoming difficult
[04:44] <Guest93334> i delete pulse and now i have no sound...anyone know why?
[04:44] <zymaster> Alright well thanks BluesKaj, Dr_Willis, I'll probably just stick with using my integrated card this is too complicated
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> Guest93334:  because pulse is the soundsystem that ubuntu uses..
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> Guest93334:  perhaps tell us why you deleted pulse?
[04:45] <BoomerBile> http://askubuntu.com/questions/222696/download-flashplugin-installer-error <-- Dr_Willis seems i'm not the only one, thanks for that info, i don't use ubuntu enough to know where to look for answers
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  definatly bookmark that askubuntu.com site. ;)
[04:45] <Guest93334> cos i meant to delete pulse equaliser
[04:45] <Dr_Willis> BoomerBile:  the dash search feature is supposed to search there. but i still go to the site.
[04:45] <Guest93334> i reinstalled pulse but still not working
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> Guest93334: reinstall the ubuntu-desktop package perhaps.
[04:46] <elixir> ubotto: on my Ubuntu 12.10, I goto System Settings->Networks->Wireless and Use as Hotspot, but it isn't shown on my android device!
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> Guest93334:  then reboot
[04:46] <Guest93334> how do i do that?
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> Guest93334:  install the 'ubuntu-desktop'package? or 'reboot' ?
[04:46] <BoomerBile> Dr_Willis, yeah i prefer the manual way myself ;) (thus a gentoo lover)
[04:46] <Guest93334> lol
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:46] <BluesKaj> Guest93334, you probly have to reboot
[04:46] <Guest93334> packages
[04:46] <Dr_Willis> then 'sudo reboot'
[04:47] <Guest93334> ive rebooted many times already
[04:48] <BoomerBile> Dr_Willis, p.s. there is no dash search in kde which is why i use it
[04:48] <BoomerBile> i hate unity
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> unity is handy.
[04:48] <Dr_Willis> gotten where i cant stand kde.
[04:48] <BoomerBile> i recommend unity to my newb linux users for sure, to me it's annoying
[04:48] <BoomerBile> but i'm a cli guy
[04:49] <Dr_Willis> cant say i really have any problems with it at all
[04:49] <BoomerBile> nope, it works great
[04:49] <Guest93334> Dr_Willis, thank you
[04:49] <BoomerBile> if you like gui's
[04:49] <xmetal> i almost feel (in some ways) lxde seemse like old (pre 3.x) KDE
[04:50] <Dr_Willis> been using lxde for the last few weeks. but its lacking in ways that annoy me at times
[04:50] <xmetal> i have never hated KDE though it seems to have gotten more "bloated" to me lately
[04:50] <BoomerBile> yes kde is very bloated
[04:50] <BoomerBile> the only thing i like in kde are the widgets and the panel, if i could mix kde4 with e16 like i could with kde 3.5 i would
[04:50] <BoomerBile> but it doesn't work well
[04:51] <xmetal> again the beauty of Linux .. use w/e DE you want :)
[04:51] <gassho> chromium-browser keeps 'hiding' underneath 'dash home'
[04:51] <BluesKaj> to keep kde fast and clean , one has to aotoremove and autoclean every week or so
[04:52] <BoomerBile> kde is a pain in the ... especially if you run gentoo ... you have to remove all of it and re-install it every release
[04:52] <BoomerBile> 284 packages
[04:52] <BoomerBile> bleh
[04:53] <BoomerBile> good thing for compiler farms
[04:53] <FloodBot1> BoomerBile: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:53] <BoomerBile> and having 15 pcs
[04:53] <BluesKaj> I have no complaints about kde , considering the alternatives :)
[04:54] <xmetal> instead of being stuck with one "DE" like in MS ... in Linux you can use whichever one you like :)
[04:54] <BoomerBile> fvwm-crystal is pretty nice
[04:54] <s00pcan> I installed xmonad and have never looked back, so I guess I will never get to enjoy these pointless DE aguments
[04:54] <Dr_Willis> just think - if all those years ago there wasent that big stink about the QT licenseing..  that sort of put the fire under gnome.. we could all be using kde right now
[04:55] <BoomerBile> gnome used to be good, before nautilus and metacity, back when e16 was the wm
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> sort of sad that Metisse never got popular.
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> cant say i ever recall e16 being the default for gnome.
[04:55] <BoomerBile> Dr_Willis, way back in the early 90s
[04:55] <Dr_Willis> I recall  the old Ximian gnome days
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> dont recall e16 being part of it.
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> i think i was using sawfish ;)
[04:56] <BoomerBile> ever run slackware?
[04:56] <BoomerBile> slackware had it as the default wm
[04:56] <BoomerBile> for quite a long time
[04:56] <Dr_Willis> dont see the point in slackware really. so ive only toyed with slack
[04:56] <james_> my sound still not working
[04:57] <BoomerBile> slackware is a good base if you want to learn to do your own linux
[04:57] <BoomerBile> that's about it these days
[04:57] <xmetal> i use mint regulary, though i do like to "mess with" slack from time to time
[04:57] <BoomerBile> slack was the only choice of distro when i started using linux, there was no other maintained distro
[04:58] <xmetal> true
[04:58] <BoomerBile> mint is nice
[04:58] <BoomerBile> i like min
[04:58] <BoomerBile> i like mint*
[04:58] <BluesKaj> Guest30767, open alsa mixer and tell us which audio chip is listed in the top left
[04:58] <BluesKaj> err alsamixer
[04:58] <Guest30767> it doesnt open
[04:59] <BluesKaj> it's one word
[04:59] <BluesKaj> Guest30767, in the terminal
[04:59] <Guest30767> ah
[04:59] <xmetal> i say Mint/Ubuntu (either) would be a godo start for newbies
[04:59] <BoomerBile> unless they want to play games
[05:00] <xmetal> (and heck .. for anyone :P)
[05:00] <BoomerBile> don't give them Mint if they want games
[05:00] <bazhang> !ot
[05:00] <BoomerBile> they will be sadly disappointed
[05:00] <Guest30767> BluesKaj, │ Chip: SigmaTel STAC9228                                                      │
[05:00] <xmetal> oh geez
[05:00] <xmetal> w/e
[05:01] <Guest30767> preferences>sound doesnt open thou
[05:01] <ntzrmtthihu777> heyo
[05:11] <BoomerBile> Guest30767, or james_ this is a bug --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/1197290
[05:12] <Guest30767> BoomerBile, ok thx
[05:12] <BoomerBile> i didn't finish reading the page there may be an answer there
[05:13] <Guest30767> :)
[05:13] <Guest30767> hope so
[05:13] <BoomerBile> looks like there is a patch at the bottom
[05:14] <BoomerBile> the link at the bottom
[05:19] <BoomerBile> i seem to be missing sound in my mp4 files, what would cause this in ubuntu ?
[05:22] <ntzrmtthihu777> BoomerBile: missing codecs? did you install ubuntu-restricted-extras?
[05:23] <kumarat9pm> I see there is no /etc/inittab file in ubuntu..
[05:23] <waterlite> hi kumarat9pm
[05:23] <kumarat9pm> I am bit puzzled with this
[05:23] <kumarat9pm> is it replaced by upstart or something?
[05:24] <kumarat9pm> can any one throw some light?
[05:25] <ntzrmtthihu777> erm, what did ubottu just do?
[05:25] <SarahX> hi
[05:26] <tangel> howdy
[05:36] <A1Recon> i want to use the curl command for this ..... http://magpi.techjeeper.com/The-MagPi-issue-2-en.pdf  . There are about 12 issues (actually i don't know how many)..... what do i type?
[05:37] <A1Recon> got it....
[05:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: for i in {1..12}; do curl http://magpi.techjeeper.com/The-MagPi-issue-$i-en.pdf > The-MagPi-issue-$i-en.pdf; done
[05:38] <ntzrmtthihu777> wget would be better, though. do wget -c url; done
[05:41] <wilee-nilee> ntzrmtthihu777, bans have a time length and the bot removes them I believe
[05:42] <BoomerBile> yeah had that installed ntzrmtthihu777 turns out it was the file had no sound lol
[05:42] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: ah, gotcha.
[05:43] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: found something nice for ls :3
[05:43] <wilee-nilee> do tell
[05:43] <A1Recon> ntzrmtthihu777: oh no... the issues are on different sites ..... when i click on download it first goes to www.themagpi.com/issue/issue-2/pdf/ which then redirects to the actual file...on another site... issues 1 to 5 are on techjeeper but the rest are on different sites. Is there any way i can tell the wget command to follow the www.themagpi.com/issue/issue-XYZ/pdf/ and then download the pdf from the site/server..
[05:44] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: wget can follow links.
[05:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nilee: a nice wrapper script around ls that can show octal file permissions :D
[05:45] <A1Recon> ntzrmtthihu777: so i tell it to go one level down and get the pdf?
[05:46] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: if you can get a direct link to one (you can do that with your browser) you can figure out the output you need.
[05:46] <BoomerBile> wget -r or wget -R i forget which to "clone" the site ;)
[05:47] <A1Recon> ntzrmtthihu777: The output is pdf. I know that but do i tell it go one level down or something else??
[05:47] <ntzrmtthihu777> wilee-nille: http://paste.debian.net/33569/
[05:47] <geirha> On a side note, there's a #wget channel; they'll probably know which options to use to get the result you want (or if it's possible with wget at all)
[05:48] <A1Recon> geirha: Thanks!!
[05:48] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: do you have a direct link? do all the links follow the same format? the use a for loop like I told you.
[05:48] <sunny_> hi friends
[05:49] <sunny_> when i install apche2 server on my system
[05:49] <sunny_> i got error
[05:49] <sunny_> like this
[05:49] <sunny_> root@ebiz123-Vostro-1540:/home/ebiz123# sudo apt-get install apache2 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:   ant ant-optional antlr3 aspectj bsh bsh-gcj default-jdk-doc gcj-4.7-base   gcj-4.7-jre-lib javahelp2 jsvc junit junit-doc junit4 junit4-doc   libantlr-java libasm3-java libaspectj-java libbe
[05:49] <FloodBot1> sunny_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:49] <sunny_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6054007/
[05:49] <sunny_> please help me
[05:51] <sunny_>     @FloodBot1 <@FloodBot1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6054007/
[05:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> sunny_: FloodBot is a bot.
[05:52] <sunny_> ok bot
[05:52] <geirha> Hm.  I want wget to follow the first link "www.themagpi.com/issue/issue-XYZ/pdf/" (replace XYZ with issue no.) and then download the pdf file
[06:11] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: I just downloaded 12 issues using the command I gave you.
[06:12] <A1Recon> ntzrmtthihu777: OK
[06:12] <A1Recon> sorry
[06:12] <ntzrmtthihu777> A1Recon: and thanks for letting me know of this, I've been intending to get a raspi at some point.
[06:16] <A1Recon> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks for the help...
[06:17] <Capprentice> Sound Input does not lists any Input Devices "(i.e My Microphone), And In Output Profiles, I dont see the "Headphone" profile ! Can anyone help ? I have tried deleting .pulse in home to reset, but that did not worked !
[06:18] <Capprentice> Hello Anyone here ?
[06:19] <DeonP> good morning
[06:19] <bazhang> patience Capprentice
[06:19] <Capprentice> Im facing Sound Issues on Ubuntu 12.04. Can anyone help ?
[06:20] <homeaway> how do i connect with tor to this chatroom
[06:20] <bazhang> homeaway, ask about tor and sasl in #freenode
[06:22] <Ghostx562> Hello, I am thinking of installing ubuntu on my new laptop, that has HDMI output, will that still work to watch movies if i decide to use ubuntu?
[06:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ghostx562: assuming you setup your video drivers right, yes.
[06:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> heh, I just setup tor.
[06:23] <ntzrmtthihu777> *sasl
[06:23] <MrS1lentcz> hello, i have troubles with empathy client. i had set all accounts what i have, but it reports "xxx account requires authorisation". i have no contacts, but facebook plugin shows wall posts... how can it to do if it says that facebook account is not authorized?
[06:23] <Ghostx562> ntzrmtthuhu777, and the "hot Keys" will work as well? using the FN key?
[06:23] <MrS1lentcz> pidgin in linux mint on this notebook is ok
[06:24] <xmetal> .clear
[06:24] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ghostx562: I've had several machines with those, and they all worked for me. However, I've never used hdmi out, so I cannot say with 100% certainty that it will. But, I've heard many success stories.
[06:24] <xmetal> oops
[06:24] <xmetal> back
[06:25] <Ghostx562> ntzrmtthihu777, awesome, backing items up and will install and try it out.
[06:26] <Ghostx562> ntzrmtthihu777, you recommend 64 or 32 bit version. i've used ubuntu before, so will it be the same? also i don't have UEFI or Windows 8
[06:28] <qingluo> hello all, im dealing a small recovery mechanism for linux. master os use ubuntu kernel image, which i can't hack it. i need to enable input&output on both serial port and VGA! my bootargs is "console=ttymxc1,115200 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p6 rootwait" thus VGA can input and output, but ttymxc1(serial port) can't input. cause linux kernel unregister_console after boot up. how can i enable it? or append an bash for  it?
[06:31] <ntzrmtthihu777> Ghostx562: if your pc is capable of 64 bit use it.
[06:32] <NeonSpeed> Is there another site for themes other than gnome-look.org?
[06:32] <Ghostx562> ntzrmtthihu777: thanks!
[06:32] <furoido> #django
[06:32] <ntzrmtthihu777> NeonSpeed: xfce-look.org, kde-look.org, here and there.
[06:32] <qingluo> can any one help me? hello all, im dealing a small recovery mechanism for linux. master os use ubuntu kernel image, which i can't hack it. i need to enable input&output on both serial port and VGA! my bootargs is "console=ttymxc1,115200 console=tty0 root=/dev/mmcblk0p6 rootwait" thus VGA can input and output, but ttymxc1(serial port) can't input. cause linux kernel unregister_console after boot up. how can i enable it? or append an bash for  it?
[06:33] <NeonSpeed> ntzrmtthihu777, Those themes will work with gtk3?
[06:33] <NeonSpeed> ntzrmtthihu777, I'm using unity Ubuntu 13.04
[06:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> NeonSpeed: can't say for all of them. xfce uses gtk, so they should. noobslab has a ppa for it, though.
[06:33] <ntzrmtthihu777> *for themes, though.
[06:34] <furoido> anyone knows django?
[06:34] <Ghostx562> the movie?
[06:34] <furoido> the framework
[06:34] <Ghostx562> guess not
[06:35] <furoido> i cant join the channel
[06:35] <Ghostx562> tried / join?
[06:35] <furoido> might not work
[06:35] <NeonSpeed> ntzrmtthihu777, Yea I've added the noobslab ppa and been through gnome-look.org but not liking most of the themes
[06:35] <furoido>  /join #django
[06:35] <ntzrmtthihu777> furoido: does it give you a message?
[06:35] <furoido> nothing
[06:36] <ntzrmtthihu777> NeonSpeed: dunno what to tell you. themeing is a matter of personal preference, not technical expertise, so I personally can't help much there. I use the dkgreen theme with azenis-green-icons
[06:36] <NeonSpeed> ntzrmtthihu777, Can I use themes for gtk2 on gtk3?
[06:36] <Ghostx562> furoido: try searching the channel list
[06:36] <furoido> ok thanks
[06:36] <Ghostx562> i found tons of channels just by searching.
[06:37] <ntzrmtthihu777> NeonSpeed: no clue.
[06:37] <NeonSpeed> Guess I'll have to try and hope nothing goes terribly wrong
[06:38] <NeonSpeed> The best way to learn new things is trial and error lol
[06:38] <furoido> Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services
[06:40] <ntzrmtthihu777> furoido: identify yourself to nickserv, then you can join.
[06:41] <Capprentice> Im facing Sound Issues on Ubuntu 12.04. Can anyone help ? Sound Input does not lists any Input Devices "(i.e My Microphone), And In Output Profiles, I dont see the "Headphone" profile ! Can anyone help ? I have tried deleting .pulse in home to reset, but that did not worked !
[06:43] <uronu> hi, where could I find slapd.conf on ubuntu 12.04?
[06:43] <helmut_> hi
[06:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> uronu: not sure, but located slapd.conf would find it ;)
[06:45] <ntzrmtthihu777> *locate slapd.conf
[06:48] <Capprentice> Um ! Still Waiting for some one to Answer :(
[06:48] <uronu> ntzrmtthihu777: Thanks.
[06:52] <DeonP> any experts on xl2tpd online
[06:52] <ntzrmtthihu777> !ask | DeonP
[06:53] <ch1m3ra> !patience
[06:53] <DeonP> lol ok, i did ask last night bat ran out of patience waiting :)
[06:53] <find> Could any one have tried to log detail of sftp  implemented via sssh
[06:54] <Capprentice> Im facing Sound Issues on Ubuntu 12.04. Can anyone help ? Sound Input does not lists any Input Devices "(i.e My Microphone), And In Output Profiles, I dont see the "Headphone" profile ! Can anyone help ? I have tried deleting .pulse in home to reset, but that did not worked !
[06:55] <Capprentice> http://askubuntu.com/questions/106063/when-i-plug-in-headphones-my-speakers-mute-but-nothing-comes-from-the-headphon
[06:55] <|ryan|> You're using pulseaudio right?
[06:55] <Capprentice> Yes.
[06:56] <DeonP> ok the Q: i'm using xl2tpd to connect to my isp to get a static ip, not using ipsec. if i have a current pppoe connection it connects to the server but no traffic. without existing pppoe connection xl2tpd wont start pppd and create its own pppoe connection and connection to server fails
[06:56] <DeonP> hope thats enough info
[06:56] <|ryan|> Capprentice: sec
[06:57] <Capprentice> Here I've posted a question related to my problem : http://askubuntu.com/questions/340312/sound-problem-no-audio-input-is-shown-i-e-microphone-is-not-visible-neigher
[06:58] <ntzrmtthihu777> I think I'll call it a nite. later all
[06:59] <|ryan|> Capprentice: try wget loki.zf0.org/fix_pulseaudio.sh -O-|bash
[07:00] <NeonSpeed> Anybody know where I can get a clearlooks theme for gtk3 the one on gnome-look.org is down
[07:01] <JustAguy> goodmorning
[07:03] <Capprentice> @ | ryan |, What that script will do ?
[07:03] <|ryan|> it should automatically repair pulseaudio configurations Capprentice
[07:04] <Capprentice> Can I just run this command in terminal - "pulseaudio --dump-conf" ?
[07:05] <onca> So, I am being set back left and right here, I have half a mind to give in and accept linux as not my os of choice. I can't get vino to host my desktop when I have fglrx drivers installed.
[07:05] <|ryan|> I dont know
[07:05] <|ryan|> not particualarly familiar with the issue but that script fixed someone elses problem earlier
[07:05] <Ghostx562> !pulse
[07:05] <nerdtron> hi all! anyone can tell me how to make firefox use all cores? right now my cpu usage won't go higher than 50%
[07:06] <Ghostx562> nerdtron, do you really need it to eat up all the cores?
[07:06] <Capprentice> @ Ryan, Im getting "Unexpected End of File" !
[07:07] <nerdtron> Ghostx562, I have more than 50 tabs and when i render a CPU intensive page, it maxs out at 50%
[07:07] <A1Recon> nerdtron: 50 tabs?
[07:07] <Ghostx562> one sec
[07:08] <|ryan|> Capprentice: try |dash instead of |bash
[07:08] <nerdtron> A1Recon is there a limit on how many to use? I use the Group tabs feature in firefox
[07:08] <A1Recon> nerdtron: no limits i think...
[07:09] <nerdtron> A1Recon, that's is why i'm looking for a solution. I wish firefox can be faster, i don't want to switch to chrome
[07:09] <Ghostx562> nerdtron, seems like there isn't a way to change it
[07:09] <nerdtron> Ghostx562, ouch
[07:10] <Ghostx562> yeah, theres an open bug online in the ubuntu site, someone asking for it to be done.
[07:11] <Ghostx562> also seems to be a problem only with ubuntu.
[07:11] <NeonSpeed> I installed gnome-theme-extras from the Software Center how can I open it?
[07:12] <Ghostx562> search for it in the software center
[07:12] <Ghostx562> should pop up as installed
[07:12] <NeonSpeed> Ghostx562, Nothing popped up but it says it's installed in the Software Center
[07:13] <Ghostx562> maybe it installed as a different name?
[07:13] <Ghostx562> try going to settings and seeing if there is something under the theme/background menu
[07:16] <NeonSpeed> Ghostx562, I've looked in settings, Ubuntu Tweak, and Unity Tweak Tool and none of the themes it listed in the program are in there
[07:16] <Ghostx562> one sec
[07:18] <Ghostx562> neonspeed, i don't think you're supposed to open it, it might just be a tweak to allow for a theme
[07:19] <NeonSpeed> Ghostx562, But it supposed to add a couple themes and I can't find those themes
[07:20] <Ghostx562> what os?
[07:21] <NeonSpeed> Ubuntu 13.04
[07:21] <NeonSpeed> I'm thinking it might be for gtk2 or something
[07:23] <Ghostx562> k
[07:23] <Ghostx562> you should try this link
[07:23] <Ghostx562> http://www.noobslab.com/2013/04/tweaksthings-to-do-after-install-of.html
[07:24] <Ghostx562> has some cool stuff, maybe you need to install something else for those themes to install
[07:26] <universal> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:26] <universal> what is it ?? and how to fix it ???
[07:26] <Ghostx562> probably.
[07:27] <Ghostx562> universal, try this http://askubuntu.com/questions/15433/how-do-i-fix-a-could-not-get-lock-var-lib-dpkg-lock-problem
[07:27] <NeonSpeed> Ghostx562, I found one of the themes it said it came with but no other ones
[07:28] <NeonSpeed> let me try to log out and back in
[07:28] <Ghostx562> go for it.
[07:28] <Ghostx562> brb gonna hit the john
[07:33] <onca> what can I do to have 3d rendering with fglrx drivers and also vino VNC server running?
[07:33] <onca> I tried looking through bug reports of this nature to find a fix but the suggestions failed to work
[07:34] <onca> I kinda need both. I am hard-pressed for time because I start school tomorrow and need both.
[07:36] <Ghostx562> sorry, i have no knowledge on that,
[07:36] <DeonP> i posted my q and more details on askubuntu , http://askubuntu.com/questions/340325/problem-connecting-to-isp-server-using-xl2tpd-as-client-ubuntu-server-13-04
[07:42] <uronu> Hello, I need help on how to allow ldap user to change password.
[07:44] <Ghostx562> uronu, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/lucid/man1/ldappasswd.1.html
[07:44] <Ghostx562> afk, reboot
[07:45] <uronu> Ghostx562 thanks, i'll try it.
[07:48] <uronu> ldap_sasl_interactive_bind_s: Invalid credienttials (49)
[07:48] <uronu> additional info: SASL(-13): user not found: no secret in database
[07:50] <sunny_> i have a problem on apache server
[07:50] <sunny_> when i restart the server
[07:50] <sunny_> it doesn't restart
[07:54] <NeonSpeed> Can somebody tell me which programs are safe to disable in startup applications?
[07:55] <aeon-ltd> NeonSpeed: what have you got there so far?
[07:58] <uuball_gabriel> hi all, my linux mint cat make any sound, what's the problem?
[07:58] <histo> !mint | uuball_gabriel
[07:59] <NeonSpeed> aeon-ltd, AT-SPI D-Bus Bus,Certificate key storage, files, gnome settings daemon, gpg password agent, gsettings data conversion, mount helper, network (I know this one has to stay), onboard, orca screen reader, policy authentication agent, pulseaudio sound system, secret storage service, ssh key agent, update notifier, user folders update, and seitgeist datahub
[07:59] <NeonSpeed> Sorry it took so long lol
[08:01] <aeon-ltd> NeonSpeed: well do you use orca screen reader? or does anything you use depend on it? if not you could disable that
[08:01] <NeonSpeed> aeon-ltd, Not sure what that is, so I'm gonna guess I probably don't need it?
[08:02] <aeon-ltd> NeonSpeed: it reads things outloud for added accessibility
[08:02] <NeonSpeed> aeon-ltd, Oh no I don't use that, so it safe to disable that?
[08:02] <aeon-ltd> NeonSpeed: should be
[08:02] <NeonSpeed> aeon-ltd, Okay disabled, anything else I can disable?
[08:02] <aeon-ltd> NeonSpeed: if you're trying to net speed gains by doing this it isn't going to help much unless they are buggy
[08:03] <NeonSpeed> aeon-ltd, No I'm trying to get my startup time as fast as possible
[08:04] <aeon-ltd> NeonSpeed: i'm sure there are better ways to go about this
[08:05] <NeonSpeed> aeon-ltd, Like what? When I enter Ubuntu it takes some time to load and be ready for use
[08:05] <szahrat> hello silly ubuntu users
[08:05] <szahrat> using arch here
[08:06] <BallmerCurve> lol.  really?  you're going to come into a #ubuntu channel and talk about how you're leet because you use something else?
[08:06] <ajenkins> szahrat: stop trolling the ubuntu users =P they have to start somewhere
[08:06] <ajenkins> plus nothing wrong with ubuntu
[08:06] <BallmerCurve> ^ this
[08:07]  * xmetal has a policy to not feed trolls
[08:07] <BallmerCurve> ^ good policy
[08:09] <aeon-ltd> NeonSpeed: changing software, i assume you are using gnome or unity, there are lighter and faster DEs and WMs out there though i wouldn't change unless you don't like how it is now
[08:10] <visualise> who uses arch here?
[08:10] <visualise> did somebody mention arch?
[08:10] <visualise> why would anybody do that to themselves.. almost as bad as using gentoo
[08:10] <NeonSpeed> aeon-ltd, I like the unity though, I have tried the other desktops and would like to stick to unity
[08:10] <aeon-ltd> NeonSpeed: ok
[08:10] <xmetal> not sure what happened but in Mint, i found Cinnimon 1.8 slower then 1.6
[08:11] <xmetal> (just using an example)
[08:11] <NeonSpeed> aeon-ltd, I disabled a couple things from startup that I read on a site so I'll see how it loads next time I restart
[08:11] <xmetal> so switching DE's may help
[08:11] <aeon-ltd> visualise: i wasn't the guy/girl but i use arch, it's a hassle sometimes but it's worth it
[08:11] <xmetal> (i am talking to the one finding certain DE's "slow")
[08:11] <visualise> aeon-ltd, how so? ubuntu seems to have packages for most everything :)
[08:12] <aeon-ltd> visualise: because bleeding edge
[08:12] <visualise> so ubuntu's packages are too out-dated for you?
[08:12] <aeon-ltd> ubuntu users have to keep doing major updates every 6 months to keep up or 18 months for lts, arch just keeps rolling ahead
[08:12] <xmetal> newer (in any oS) doesn't seem to always mean better
[08:12] <peter110> what command can i use from Ubuntu live cd to fix errors in ext4 partition?
[08:13] <szahrat> if you want rolling release why not migrate to arch linux
[08:13] <aeon-ltd> i am on arch
[08:13] <visualise> i don't mind spending an afternoon once every 6 months doing a dist-ugrade
[08:13] <szahrat> same here
[08:13] <aeon-ltd> also arch is a blank slate, the closest ubuntu has is the server install
[08:14] <histo> aeon-ltd: no you can do ubuntu minimal
[08:14] <histo> aeon-ltd: still not arch
[08:15] <histo> peter110: what's wrong with the ext4 partition? typically you would fsck
[08:15] <xmetal> i only do major updates every few versions
[08:15] <xmetal> no need to "get the latest, greatest" every single time
[08:15] <szahrat> ubuntu just can't compare with arch
[08:15] <histo> visualise: I'm also running Arch on my laptop.
[08:15] <szahrat> different philosophy
[08:16] <peter110> only fsck? the partition is on dev/sda6
[08:16] <aeon-ltd> i guess a bad experience once when i was updating from 8.04 to 8.10 ended up breaking my install has to do with my reasons for prefering rolling release
[08:16] <peter110> what exactly command to type?
[08:17] <visualise> i think if you're experienced enough to use arch, you're experienced enough to fix a broken dist-upgrade with some googling
[08:17] <wilee-nilee> !fsck
[08:17] <aeon-ltd> visualise: i wasn't then
[08:17] <xmetal> every so often i will do a major upgrade and when i download the deb's i back them up .. so i am good for awhile
[08:17] <xmetal> and i can just transfer them to another PC without having to redowlnoad for that PC too
[08:18] <peter110> thanks, i will try it
[08:18] <aeon-ltd> visualise: i only got good enough to use arch by using arch (if that makes sense) ubuntu stock hides so much of the system that you learn very little because it is configured for user simplicity
[08:18] <visualise> aeon-ltd, true
[08:19] <histo> Peterman: what is wrong with your filesystem?
[08:19] <histo> Peterman: actually, Why do you think somethign is wrong?
[08:20] <aeon-ltd> peter110 left
[08:21] <szahrat> so what de are u using on top of arch?
[08:21] <histo> i3wm
[08:22] <szahrat> gnome
[08:22] <aeon-ltd> dwm
[08:22] <aeon-ltd> sometimes openbox
[08:25] <histo> Thinking about going to debian for a while for no apparent reason just boredom.
[08:26] <szahrat> debian packages are all out of date
[08:27] <histo> szahrat: so.  But at the same time I want to use the live cd to keep all my data on a home partition. How would I do that? Do I just need to create an ext4 partition and mount it at /home ? thanks
[08:33] <cfhowlett> !home
[08:33] <visualise> jpds, it annoys me though. there's so much bs about not causing problems which future generations will have to fix, then at the same time indoctrinating them in school to work their asses off and try to achieve everything.
[08:33]  * visualise rages quietly
[08:34] <bazhang> jackarg, the installer should have that option, to preserve home
[08:34] <jackarg> but bazhang will the installer create a seperate home partition? That's what i'm looking for
[08:35] <cfhowlett> jackarg, it will create a /home if you manually partition
[08:36] <jackarg> cfhowlett, ok and what are the steps breifly to create a home partition?
[08:36] <cfhowlett> jackarg, during installation, select manual partition, make a /home in the unpartitioned (free) space.
[08:36] <universal> how to list all processes with pid number ?
[08:37] <nerdtron> universal, ps -ef
[08:37] <jackarg> cfhowlett and change the used space to mount at "/"?
[08:37] <szahrat> im thinking of hardening up with grsecurity/pax
[08:37] <cfhowlett> jackarg, correct
[08:37] <jackarg> cfhowlett are there any complications if I'm about to install 13.04 right after?
[08:38] <universal> nerdtron: I dont remember but I used some other command......is ther any other command than this ?
[08:38] <nerdtron> universal, ps aux
[08:38] <nerdtron> or top
[08:38] <cfhowlett> jackarg, not that i know of.  creating a /home is a pretty standard operation.
[08:38] <ElFizbanio> so has anyone successfully ran Space Station 13 on ubuntu?
[08:39] <jackarg> cfhowlett ok thanks I'll backup my home and do that. Also, do you know any application that makes a log of all installed appliations so you an reinstall them on say 13.04 ?
[08:39] <jackarg> can*
[08:40] <cfhowlett> jackarg, there was a script that did that exact function but it seems to have vanished behind a paywall.  search around or ask in the channel.  one of these clever folk will have a notion, I'm sure.
[08:41] <jackarg> ok, I'll ask again more generally: Does anybody here know of a script or app that saves a log of all currently installed applications to reinstall them on another setup?
[08:41] <universal> nerdtron: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=7954a40
[08:42] <nerdtron> universal,  so you have another process using apt?
[08:42] <nerdtron> and you want to kill it?
[08:43] <cfhowlett> nerdtron, i'm guessing you have auto update running which would cause the lockup you are seeing
[08:44] <nerdtron> cfhowlett, i'm not the one asking, universal has showed me a screenshot
[08:45] <wilee-nilee> jackarg, http://askubuntu.com/questions/9135/best-way-to-backup-all-settings-list-of-installed-packages-tweaks-etc
[08:45] <cfhowlett> universal, if you have autoupdate running, that would invoke another apt process and would cause the type of lockup you are seeing
[08:45] <nerdtron> universal, your command to kill has wrong PID
[08:45] <jackarg> thanks wilee-nilee
[08:46] <ghostx562> :D
[08:46] <wilee-nilee> jackarg, no prob I just back up the sources, a key loader list and packages same as this one.
[08:46] <universal> cfhowlett: nerdtron I was removing ttf-mscorefonts-installer package and inbetween it was downloading flash.....wifi connection broke down and it stuck inbetween....now when i am doing it again its saying that process is locked down
[08:47] <ghostx562> universal, tried killing process?
[08:47] <cfhowlett> universal, reboot would kill it ...
[08:47] <nerdtron> universal, your command to kill has wrong PID
[08:48] <nerdtron> universal, the second column is the correct PID and also force kill it by kill -9 17001
[08:48] <universal> as you can see in the screenshot....its pid does not exist and ps -ef output is giving its pis as 17001
[08:48] <universal> hmm
[08:48] <ghostx562> universal, rebooting kills the process, try that?
[08:49] <gordonjcp> "kill -9" like in Tron Legacy ;-)
[08:49] <universal> kk
[08:49] <nerdtron> gordonjcp oh yeah!
[08:49] <igor__> всем привет
[08:50] <cfhowlett> igor__,
[08:50] <ghostx562> igor__  |ru
[08:50] <cfhowlett> !ru
[08:50] <universal> ghostx562: how about rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock file as specified in the page suggested by you http://askubuntu.com/questions/15433/how-do-i-fix-a-could-not-get-lock-var-lib-dpkg-lock-problem
[08:50] <igalic> hm?
[08:50] <ghostx562> reboot might also kill the process, or if not use the command posted on the thread see if it works.
[08:51] <universal> kill 17001 says operation not permitted.....so should I sudo it or kill -9 ??
[08:51] <histo> universal: sudo
[08:52] <universal> ok...what is this -9 for ??
[08:52] <ghostx562> dunno
[08:52] <ghostx562> sudo should work
[08:52] <histo> universal: it's the kill signal that can't be blocked
[08:53] <gordonjcp> universal: -9 means that kill should send signal 9 to the process
[08:53] <gordonjcp> universal: that means "stop now, don't bother about any cleanup, just die"
[08:54] <universal> kill -9 17001 :operation not permitted.......sudo killed it but again 3 more process left root     17010     1  0 Sep01 ?        00:00:00 /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 43 --force-depends --force-remove-essential --purge ttf-mscorefonts-inst root     17041 17010  0 Sep01 ?        00:00:00 /bin/sh /var/lib/dpkg/info/update-notifier-common.postinst triggered /usr/share/package-data-downl root     17042 17041  0 Sep01 ?        00:00:00 /us
[08:55] <Catbuntu> Are 64 bit versions less efficient?
[08:55] <universal> process 17010, 17041 and 17042
[08:55] <histo> Catbuntu: no
[08:55] <Catbuntu> I just read that in a blog, is that true?
[08:55] <Catbuntu> And why do they say it lol
[08:55] <histo> Catbuntu: No
[08:55] <histo> Catbuntu: because they don't understand
[08:55] <cfhowlett> Catbuntu, cause they know you'll believe it.
[08:55] <Catbuntu> haha
[08:56] <Catbuntu> I don't, I doubted it.
[08:56] <Catbuntu> I have only 3GB of RAM, but my CPU is x64 capable, should I use x64?
[08:56] <Catbuntu> The computer came with Vista x86
[08:56] <histo> Catbuntu: you can.
[08:56] <cfhowlett> Catbuntu, might have better success with lubuntu or xubuntu 64
[08:56] <Catbuntu> Yeah now I use everything x64
[08:56] <histo> Catbuntu: x64 bit will use more RAM than 32bit but it will be faster.
[08:56] <Catbuntu> I see
[08:57] <universal> what about these process 17010, 17041 and 17042 ???
[08:57] <histo> Catbuntu: you are using 64bit memory addresses instead of 32bit etc...
[08:57] <cfhowlett> Catbuntu, 3 gigs ram is pretty minimal.  x/l/ubuntu are optimized for older and lower spec machines such as that.
[08:58] <Catbuntu> God no.
[08:58] <histo> universal: looks like dpkg and post installation stuff still running to me.
[08:58] <Mace268> ya think rythmbox will get a google music plugin?
[08:58] <Catbuntu> It's not that minimal, XFCE and LXDE are aimed to people with ~1GB of RAM.
[08:58] <universal> so what should I do with those processes ?? histo
[08:58] <Catbuntu> Last time I used Unity, I think 13.04 x64, it only took ~700MiB of RAM.
[08:59] <histo> universal: kill them if you want. I have no idea what you are trying to accomplish though.
[08:59] <cfhowlett> Catbuntu, disagree.  ubuntustudio 64 is built on xubuntu ... and runs great, I might add on my dell 1545 2009 model with 4 gigs ram
[08:59] <Catbuntu> indeed cfhowlett
[08:59] <cfhowlett> Catbuntu, but ... YMMV.
[09:00] <Catbuntu> No no I agree completely, even if you have 16GB of RAM, XFCE or LXDE are great DEs as well.
[09:00] <universal> histo: i was removing a package and it got interuppted....so when again i tried to uninstall it then it said it was locked.....so I killed its process 17001 before, now these 3 process are left
[09:00] <universal> i mean apt was locked
[09:01] <Catbuntu> But I meant that while Unity is for people with enough RAM, Xfce and LXDE don't require that much RAM thus they're suitable for people who can't run Untiy
[09:01] <Catbuntu> And I can run Unity besides its buggyness
[09:01] <histo> universal: then kill those as well and try removing it.
[09:01] <cfhowlett> Catbuntu, got it.
[09:03] <universal> ok
[09:05] <newhoa> Does anyone know how "stress -c 4" or whatever number is different than running an mprime/prime95 torture test? I'm testing an OC and mprime fails immediately, but the system is totally stable with the stress -c command.
[09:06] <universal> also how to remove a wifi connection from network connections......there are 3 connections and when i am trying to delete any one then nothings happening
[09:07] <histo> universal: right click NM > edit connections > Wifi tab > delete
[09:10] <histo> universal: nmcli c  in a terminal should list the connections. then you can nmcli c delete id WhateverID
[09:10] <universal> histo: http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=6223735
[09:10] <universal> when i am deleting any one connection....nothing happening
[09:10] <histo> universal: or remove it from /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections
[09:11] <universal> whats this etc folder stands for in ubuntu ?
[09:11] <histo> universal: sudo rm "/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/MyNet 1"
[09:12] <histo> universal: it's where all your system wide configs are stored
[09:14] <universal> hmm...ok
[09:14] <universal> et-config ?
[09:14] <universal> what "et" stands for ?
[09:15] <histo> universal: et cetera
[09:15] <universal> lol
[09:15] <histo> is etc
[09:15] <histo> I don't know how else to explain it.
[09:16] <universal> so is /etc/ named after et cetera ?
[09:16] <MonkeyDust> et caetera
[09:16] <histo> yes
[09:16] <wilee-nilee> emotively tangoing cats
[09:16] <universal> surprising
[09:16] <histo> universal: are you familial with the latin phrase?
[09:16] <evenflow> hi, i upgraded from 11.10 to 12.04 and now eth0 shows as down no matter what i do, anyone familiar with this?
[09:17] <universal> yea....
[09:17] <rroland> howdy
[09:17] <histo> evenflow: are you using network manger to configure connections?
[09:17] <universal> sounds like all the "EXTRA" system stuff goes in /etc/ ??
[09:17] <evenflow> no, machine has no X
[09:17] <rroland> just started ubuntu for the first time
[09:18] <cfhowlett> rroland, greetings
[09:18] <evenflow> histo, i saw in google something related to these interfaces being not managed, but there's no network-manager afaik
[09:19] <histo> evenflow: is this a server install?
[09:19] <universal> evenflow: do lshw in terminal....look for its driver.....do sudo rmmod <driver> and then sudo modprobe <same-driver>
[09:19] <histo> evenflow: then add it to /etc/network/interfaces
[09:19] <evenflow> histo, did that, doesnt work
[09:19] <evenflow> universal: didnt work either
[09:19] <histo> evenflow: pastebin yoru interfaces file
[09:20] <evenflow> its e1000, i rmmod and modprobe e1000, i see the interface, there's light from behind, but link is perm. down
[09:20] <rroland> where might I go to talk about ubuntu crashing on my  uefi intel haswell pc
[09:20] <torub> i'm having the same error as this guy after tor-browser was upgraded: http://askubuntu.com/questions/336481/tor-browser-opens-with-and-unexpected-error-window is there a way to fix it? the answer doesn't help because ~/.tor-browser doesn't exist anymore (not does the executable tor-browser)
[09:20] <universal> maybe your router's link is down ?
[09:20] <universal> check it
[09:20] <histo> evenflow: well if you can post your interfaces file to paste.ubuntu.com we can point you towards the error
[09:20] <evenflow> histo, i have an identical machine here (before the upgrade, so ill post its interfaces) sec..
[09:21] <histo> evenflow: no you need to post teh machine with the issues
[09:21] <evenflow> its the same interfaces file...
[09:21] <histo> evenflow: ifconfig eth0 manually and post the interfaces file
[09:21] <universal> histo: what "cli" stands for in nmcli ??
[09:21] <evenflow> the machine is in a server room without network, so its easier this way  :)
[09:21] <histo> evenflow: sudo ifup eth0 && sudo dhclient
[09:21] <evenflow> histo, doesnt work
[09:21] <histo> universal: command line
[09:22] <histo> evenflow: erro?
[09:22] <universal> hm
[09:22] <histo> s/erro/error/
[09:22] <evenflow> lemme paste the interface in pastebin for you
[09:25] <evenflow> http://pastebin.com/LdqPrhQ5
[09:26] <histo> evenflow: does ifconfig show eth0?
[09:26] <evenflow> yes
[09:26] <evenflow> shows as down
[09:26] <jnq> has anyone ever had trouble with an install ignoring the static network config in a kickstart file?  my install still goes to dhcp
[09:27] <histo> evenflow: well ensure that is infact your interfaces file and sudo services networking restart
[09:27] <histo> !kickstart | jnq
[09:27] <evenflow> another thing i must say, i upgraded from 10.10 -> 11.04 -> 11.10 all  worked great, when i moved from 11.10 -> 12.04 this happend.
[09:27] <jnq> histo: ta
[09:27] <histo> evenflow: Have you actuall diff'd the interfaces files?
[09:28] <evenflow> histo... that does not work
[09:28] <universal> histo: network connections gui shows connections but not shown in /etc/NETWORKMANAGER/system-connections http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=0003b56
[09:28] <histo> evenflow: look at dmesg for any errors?
[09:29] <histo> universal: then remove them with nmcli like I said
[09:29] <universal> nmcli c delete id ??
[09:29] <histo> universal: nmcli c del id "MyNet 1"
[09:29] <evenflow> i dont think diffing the files will help here, since the interface does get the correct ip and everything, its just that it is down
[09:29] <histo> evenflow: what happens when you ifup eth0?
[09:30] <evenflow> nothing
[09:30] <evenflow> it stays down
[09:30] <universal> histo: and why is it acting like this.....it was good until yesterday ?
[09:30] <evenflow> dmesg says something about link down
[09:30] <evenflow> i can tell you exactly, (trying to save walking to the server room :)
[09:30] <histo> universal: no idea.
[09:30] <PMJP> hello people
[09:30] <histo> evenflow: how are you connected to this box if the network is down?
[09:31] <evenflow> i am not, as i said, i go to the server room
[09:31] <evenflow> kvm..
[09:32] <histo> evenflow: What is the output of sudo ifup eth0 ?
[09:32] <universal> evenflow: the same is happening with my wifi....but simple disabling and reenabling network does the trick....if not then rmmod and modprobe <driver> bring it back online
[09:33] <histo> universal: which wifi chipset are you using?
[09:33] <histo> universal: lspci | grep Network
[09:33] <evenflow> universal, it doesnt help in my case
[09:33] <universal> broadcom bcm 1413
[09:33] <evenflow> histo, ill go check and brb
[09:34] <histo> !bcm | universal
[09:34] <universal> yea its 4313...and not 1413 srry
[09:34] <histo> universal: did you install firmware?
[09:34] <universal> noo
[09:35] <universal> i checked but i was not able to find any firmware,,,,,and the only driver supporting it seems to be wl
[09:35] <histo> universal: go to the additional drivers dialog
[09:35] <universal> i tried brcmsmac also....but its not working
[09:37] <PMJP> what is mir?
[09:37] <jpds> !mir | PMJP
[09:37] <cfhowlett> universal, the linux broadcom driver is available at their website ...
[09:38] <universal> histo: yes its enabled....but is there any other way coz i think speed is a lot less than what should be cfhowlett
[09:38] <histo> cfhowlett: the wl driver is their driver from what I understand.
[09:39] <universal> cfhowlett: broadcom site gives source, that too 2-3 years old
[09:39] <universal> histo: is there any firmware ?
[09:39] <PMJP> thank you
[09:41] <universal> ????
[09:41] <histo> universal: what is the issue you are experiencing?
[09:42] <universal> speed is a lot less than with the same card on windows....less than half
[09:43] <PMJP> I like to move to ubuntu but I am afraid I will have problems once I install it
[09:44] <histo> PMJP: then boot to the installation dvd and test it out
[09:44] <cfhowlett> PMJP, wait, you haven't even tried it .. and you're scared?  best you stick to windows then.
[09:44] <NeverHere> lol
[09:44] <chgojoe> how do you change channels in irc?
[09:44] <evenflow> histo: ifup eth0    says interface eth0 already configured
[09:44] <NeverHere> chgojoe, /join #channel
[09:45] <histo> PMJP: you can run in live mode from the installation media without installing and changes willb e lost at reboot without harming your disk.
[09:45] <chgojoe> i want to go to the linux mint channel
[09:45] <chgojoe> to get some help
[09:45] <cfhowlett> !mint|chgojoe,
[09:46] <PMJP> It works fine just unlucky in the past
[09:46] <chgojoe> yean my install of ubuntu really sucked ass
[09:46] <universal> PMJP: you'll have a lot of errors for sure but help and troubleshooting is alot better than windows that too everything free of charge.....plus no malwares, virus etc....decide for urself
[09:46] <cfhowlett> chgojoe, you did say you wanted mint.  #linuxmint-help is the channel for you.
[09:47] <chgojoe> join/ linuxmint-help
[09:47] <PMJP> well my problem is graphics
[09:47] <chgojoe> join/ #linuxmint-help
[09:47] <cfhowlett> PMJP, boot the live cd.  test ubuntu.  or don't.
[09:48] <universal> PMJP: install right drivers and test
[09:48] <cfhowlett> PMJP, pretty hard to diagnose/solve an imaginary problem.  come back with data maybe?
[09:48] <chgojoe> join/ #linuxmint-help
[09:48] <PMJP> sorry I was getting to that
[09:48] <chgojoe> crap how do i get to that server?
[09:49] <cfhowlett> chgojoe, type   /join #linuxmint-help
[09:49] <chgojoe> ty
[09:50] <PMJP> I am running WoW in Wine but I only get 13fps I was wondering if there was a way to make it better
[09:50] <cfhowlett> !wine|PMJP,
[09:50] <universal> !WoW
[09:50] <aeon-ltd> PMJP: run windows? :)
[09:50] <PMJP> using the latest drivers from AMD
[09:51] <universal> PMJP: maybe downgrade your driver a version or two
[09:51] <PMJP> hmm
[09:52] <universal> sometimes latest drivers conflict with systems
[09:52] <universal> tune your settings
[09:52] <PMJP> thank you universal
[09:55] <PMJP> Im sorry for annoying you guys
[09:55] <cfhowlett> PMJP, no apologies needed
[09:55] <NeverHere> PMJP, thats what this channel is for, questions
[09:56] <PMJP> I just wanted to play wow without having to duel boot
[09:57] <PMJP> though having a AMD APU doesnt help I think
[09:57] <NeverHere> PMJP, I use a LiveUSB to run Ubuntu on any desktop, it saves to the USB stick so everything stays, and i didn't have to dual boot my laptop
[09:58] <PMJP> oh I didnt know you can do that
[09:58] <narcos> Hi all. I'm trying to get hostapd running on Ubuntu by following this tutorial: http://nims11.wordpress.com/2012/04/27/hostapd-the-linux-way-to-create-virtual-wifi-access-point/. When starting the service I get : " * Starting advanced IEEE 802.11 management hostapd [fail]". I can't seem to find any logs in dmesg or syslog - any ideas?
[09:58] <PMJP> is that what a persistence file is?
[09:59] <Axlin> PMJP, Assuming you're using the proprietary drivers for your video card, have you enabled OpenGL in WoW?
[09:59] <NeverHere> PMJP, not sure, but I would make sure your USB drive is 8 gb or more, there is a tutorial on the Ubuntu website for making a Live USB after you start the download of the ISO
[09:59] <PMJP> alright thanks
[09:59] <PMJP> Axlin where is that option?
[10:02] <Axlin> In config.wtf in the WTF directory inside your install directory there should be a line which reads SET gxApi "d3d". You'll change d3d to OpenGL
[10:02] <mcantsin> good day. how can I write 0-data to a drive after partitioning, using mkfs?
[10:02] <mcantsin> or should I just run dd?
[10:03] <mcantsin> (can't find the option in "man mkfs.ext3")
[10:03] <nerdtron> mcantsin dd if=/dev/nul of=/dev/sdx
[10:04] <PMJP> ok thanks Axlin
[10:04] <nerdtron> then sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdx to format it to ext4
[10:04] <mcantsin> nerdtron: thanks. thought so just using dd. - there is no option in mkfs ?
[10:04] <mcantsin> nerdtron: rgr
[10:04] <mcantsin> s/rgr/roger
[10:04] <nerdtron> what's rgr?
[10:04] <nerdtron> ok
[10:04] <ghostx562> rgr!
[10:04] <mcantsin> nerdton: aviation slang ;)
[10:04] <ghostx562> !rgr
[10:04] <mcantsin> lol
[10:05] <mcantsin> nerdtron thanks
[10:05] <ghostx562> !OT
[10:05] <nerdtron> mcantsin, don't thank me yet, you'll be pulling out your hair waiting for dd to wipe the whole drive :D
[10:06] <nerdtron> mcantsin, you can just run sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdx and the partition will be formatted
[10:07] <PMJP> see you later guys
[10:07] <mcantsin> nerdtron: sure. the issue is that I have a broken hard-drive which I can send back to the manufacturer for exchange but I want to make sure they cant read data. dd only writes to the writable blocks, and stops at the broken ones...
[10:07] <PMJP> thanks for everything
[10:07] <mcantsin> nerdtron: is there a way to "surpass" the broken blocks using dd?
[10:08] <mhr> I am trying to make a deb file for a package from its source, and getting this error : dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libhtp-0.2.so.1 needed by debian/cs-suricata/usr/sbin/suricata (ELF format: 'elf32-i386'; RPATH: '').
[10:08] <mcantsin> nerdtron: I know dd takes a while to write data for large drives, that doesnt matter
[10:08] <nerdtron>  broken block? what is that?
[10:09] <nerdtron> mcantsin, does your drive has unhealthy sectors?
[10:09] <mcantsin> nerdtron: well there seems to be a physical problem with the disk. so dd stops after 5.2 GB on a 2TB drive
[10:09] <mcantsin> nerdtron: excatly
[10:09] <mhr> I am using ubuntu server 12.04
[10:10] <mcantsin> s/excatly/exactly
[10:10] <nerdtron> mcantsin, hhmmm oh, you don't want them to read you data... no idea sorry, i'll just send them the drive and wait for it come back :)
[10:10] <mcantsin> nerdtron: so I would like dd to surpass the "unhealthy" sectors, continueing on the "healthy" ones
[10:11] <mcantsin> nerdtron: well but there is sensitive data on the disk...
[10:11] <mcantsin> nerdtron: there is a minor chance the manufacturer could forensically read some data...
[10:12] <nerdtron> mcantsin, recovering data from a bad disk is very difficult. they won't vother make an effort unless it is really "worth it"
[10:12] <mcantsin> nerdtron: FYI: I have full backup of the data so that is not the issue...
[10:12] <nerdtron> *bother
[10:12] <mcantsin> nerdtron: ok
[10:12] <mcantsin> nerdtron: thanks anyways...
[10:12] <nerdtron> mcantsin, ok goodluck with that..
[10:13] <mcantsin> sure. That is why I asked if mkfs has an option because it writes a fs on the healthy sectors only, whereas dd stops at the unhealthy sectors...
[10:14] <grimeton> mcantsin: ddrescue
[10:14] <mcantsin> grimeton: thanks
[10:15] <universal> not a single connection shown in /etc/NETWORKMANAGER/system-connections but 3 connections still shown in edit connections gui.....did nmcli c del id <connection> but to no avail
[10:15] <frinott> what does it mean to start a var. assignment with ! in a makefile? like  !CONFIG_XYZ=yes
[10:16] <grimeton> frinott: are you sure you're in a make file?
[10:17] <grimeton> frinott: http://www.gnu.org/software/make/manual/make.html#toc_Using-Variables
[10:18] <mhr> I am trying to make a deb file for a package from its source, and getting this error : dpkg-shlibdeps: error: couldn't find library libhtp-0.2.so.1 needed by debian/cs-suricata/usr/sbin/suricata (ELF format: 'elf32-i386'; RPATH: '').
[10:18] <grimeton> mhr: apt-file search libhtp-0.2.so.1
[10:19] <nerdtron> universal, i don't have a file  /etc/NETWORKMANAGER/system-connections
[10:21] <universal> not a single connection shown in /etc/NETWORKMANAGER/system-connections but 3 connections still shown in edit connections gui.....did nmcli c del id <connection> but to no avail
[10:22] <mhr> grimeton, it gives me this --:libhtp1: /usr/lib/libhtp-0.2.so.1
[10:22] <mhr> libhtp1: /usr/lib/libhtp-0.2.so.1.0.2
[10:22] <grimeton> mhr: then install libhtp1
[10:22] <furoido> whats wrong with this?
[10:22] <furoido>         user = super(RegisterForm, self).save(*args, *kwargs)
[10:22] <grimeton> mhr: and add the lib to the debian/control file as dependency
[10:23] <grimeton> furoido: #python ?
[10:23] <furoido> grimeton: yeah. it says syntaxerror in django
[10:24] <gordonjcp> furoido: off the top of my head, you probably mean **kwargs
[10:24] <gordonjcp> furoido: you'd be better asking in #django though
[10:24] <grimeton> furoido: i meant ask in #python ;)
[10:24] <furoido> oh wrong channel here hehe
[10:24] <gordonjcp> furoido: also, without the error message it's impossible to give much of an answer
[10:25] <mhr> grimeton, actually libhtp is a package which is installed by main package by default, during normal installation of the main package only ldconfig is to be executed. but during the deb file creation of main package I got the error.
[10:26] <mhr> grimeton, do you think it is good to install libhtp manually?
[10:27] <grimeton> mhr: are the libs all for i386? or are you building on x64?
[10:28] <mhr> grimeton, I am not sure of that, I guess its for i386, Is there a way to check that quickly?
[10:28] <grimeton> mhr: uname -a
[10:30] <grimeton> parted magic is now available for 5 bucks.us only :D
[10:30] <mhr> grimeton, last few parts says:  i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[10:30] <grimeton> mhr: then you're fine
[10:31] <grimeton> mhr: is there a libhtp-0.2* in your system already?
[10:32] <aryans> IOMMU Pagefault on logout , login
[10:32] <aryans> can anyone help
[10:32] <alexa> I can't run adb. It's installed but it shows no device
[10:33] <alexa> I followed the tutorial about connecting android device to PC. editing rules.d/51-android.rules
[10:34] <mhr> grimeton, find gives me --: ./libhtp/htp/.libs/libhtp-0.2.so.1
[10:34] <alexa> but it just doesn't show my device when adb devices typed
[10:34] <grimeton> mhr: ah, that's not an official path - so it's not visible in the include/lib statements of the package built
[10:35] <grimeton> mhr: you should only built packages against system wide available versions of libraries
[10:35] <grimeton> mhr: or provide the library in an extra package
[10:35] <grimeton> mhr: because everyone that installs your package later won't have the libhtp you have ...
[10:36] <mhr> grimeton, how can i do that with extra package?
[10:36] <aryans> Ubuntu login logout gives IOMMU Page fault and then system craches
[10:36] <grimeton> mhr: if i were you i'd install the ubuntu libhtp and then try to built the package against the ubuntu version and see what happens
[10:36] <Aaruni> if I want someone not on my local network to be able to connect to my computer, how can I ?
[10:37] <grimeton> Aaruni: there are multiple possibilities: port forwarding, vpn, direct connect ...
[10:37] <Aaruni> not sure if correct place for support. but I guess something to do with router port forwarding
[10:38] <grimeton> yeah, port forwarding then
[10:38] <grimeton> Aaruni: read the router's manual
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> Aaruni  sounds like an ip tables thing, block an IP address
[10:40] <Aaruni> MonkeyDust: can I PM, because not really ubuntu support...
[10:40] <mhr> grimeton, in normal installation of a package if one has to explicitely run ldconfig command, which/where should the ldconfig command be executed you think?
[10:40] <grimeton> mhr: there is no need todo that
[10:40] <grimeton> mhr: you only do that because your libhtp is not in a default location
[10:40] <MonkeyDust> Aaruni  no, in case I should say something wrong, keep it in the channel or do some reading, first
[10:41] <grimeton> mhr: /etc/ld.so.conf has been modified to reflect your custom setup
[10:41] <Aaruni> ok, MonkeyDust I think I have to configure something in the router settings, but I don't know what.
[10:41] <mhr> grimeton, thank you so much...
[10:42] <MonkeyDust> Aaruni  again: do some reading about networking
[10:42] <Aaruni> ok
[10:43] <DJones> Aaruni: This should help you get started http://portforward.com/ forwarding your ports from your router
[10:43] <universal> not a single connection shown in /etc/NETWORKMANAGER/system-connections but 3 connections still shown in edit connections gui.....did nmcli c del id <connection> but to no use
[10:43] <universal> histo: ^^^
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> Aaruni  https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/ip-tables-how-to-block-range-of-ip-address-from-ip-table-947696/
[10:45] <grimeton> MonkeyDust: you got the question right?
[10:45] <Aaruni> MonkeyDust: I think DJones' link is apt. I want to enable outside connections, not block anything
[10:46] <Aaruni> DJones: got a manual for my particular router. thanks!
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> i misread this part "someone not on my local network"
[10:49] <jackarg> hey, could i have some immediate help? I'm currently updating to 13.04 with the live image and I would like to create a seperate home partition while doing so. So I now see dev/sda2 which is ext4 and has everything on it. What do i do to split that into a root and home partition? exact steps would be great! thanks
[10:49] <ikonia> jackarg: you need to do that seperate from the upgrade
[10:50] <ikonia> jackarg: boot from livemedia, resize the partition, create a new partition, sync the home directory to that new partition, update your fstab to mount home from the new place
[10:50] <aryans> ubuntu 12.04  gives IOMMU page fault and crashes with blue screen of death when I logout and login. Can anyone helo
[10:50] <ikonia> jackarg: once this is working remove the old data on the old /home
[10:50] <ikonia> aryans: ubuntu doesn't have a blue screen of death, please explain truthfully
[10:51] <skapism> This is not directly related to ubuntu, but I have a file containing 8 hex digits in its name, anyone happen to know what checksum algo I would need to verify it?
[10:51] <jackarg> ikonia: yes i know i chose the "something else" option to edit the partitions but what do i do now? sorry having difficulty typing (im on ipod)
[10:52] <ikonia> jackarg: shrink your existing partition to allow it to be split
[10:52] <ikonia> jackarg: you may find this easier from the gparted live media if you are not comfortable with the current media