[05:03] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn and others
[05:05] <nlsthzn> morning
[05:23] <nuvolari> o/ hi nlsthzn, oom Kilos
[05:23] <nlsthzn> alo
[05:23] <Kilos> lo nuvolari
[05:30] <Kilos> hi bduk1
[05:32] <bduk1> More Kilos  en almal
[05:32] <magespawn> good morning
[05:35] <Kilos> hi magespawn
[05:36] <magespawn> did you get much rain last night/
[05:38] <magespawn> ?
[05:40] <Kilos> not a drop
[05:44] <bduk1> 34 ml in Rayton yesterday
[05:44] <bduk1> mm
[05:44] <magespawn> we got some here last night, very  heavy but did not last long
[05:47] <Kilos> we just had heavy mist last 2 mornings, cant see anything 200 metres away and everything sopping wet
[05:47] <Kilos> and its getting cold again
[05:48] <magespawn> well at least there is some moisture around
[05:48] <magespawn> winter is coming
[05:48] <Kilos> yeah
[05:48] <bduk1> They say 2 months after the mist the frost comes
[05:49] <magespawn> never use superglue on your shoes when you are wearing them
[05:50] <nlsthzn> >.<
[05:50] <Kilos> rofl
[05:51] <magespawn> indeed
[05:51] <Kilos> you can get superglue disolving stuff
[05:51] <magespawn> yup and how to apply it to the foot inside the shoe?
[05:51] <Kilos> eish
[05:52] <magespawn> anyway bbl, got some outside work to do today
[05:52] <Kilos> sis says when feet sweat it comes lose
[05:53] <Kilos> then sandpapewr inside of shoe to get it smooth again
[05:53] <Kilos> she speaks from experience
[05:53] <Kilos> haha
[05:56] <jabberwocky93> morning all
[05:56] <Spekko> morning all
[05:56] <Spekko> Maaz: Coffee on
[05:56]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[05:56] <Kilos> hi jabberwocky93 Spekko
[05:56] <Kilos> Maaz coffee please
[05:56] <Maaz> Kilos: Yessir
[05:59] <jabberwocky93> more Kilos :)
[06:00] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Spekko and Kilos!
[06:00] <Kilos> Maaz dankie man
[06:00] <Maaz> Groot plesier my vriend
[06:01] <Spekko> Thank you Maaz
[06:01] <jabberwocky93> Map of package dependencies in the Ubuntu Software Center http://i.imgur.com/8yHC8.jpg (dont have any references)
[06:04] <Kilos> lol WAYTTD
[06:32] <Kilos> hi Private_User
[06:32] <Private_User> morning all
[06:33] <Private_User> hi Kilos
[07:40] <magespawn> jabberwocky93, very cool map, amazing how complex it is, reminds me of a map of the brain or of the galaxy
[07:41] <magespawn> thanks for the tip Kilos, also your skin eventually dies and it will come lose
[07:41] <Golynx> o/
[07:41] <Golynx> skin ?
[07:42] <Kilos> lol
[07:42] <Kilos> hi Golynx he superglue his shoe while foot was inside
[07:42] <Golynx> oh lol
[07:44] <Golynx> i thought it was an ubuntu skin, or when your underground after being burried the skin comes loose
[07:44] <Kilos> lol
[07:45] <Golynx> oh hi Kilos
[07:45] <Kilos> haha
[07:45] <Golynx> :D
[07:50] <Golynx> i like how facebook wana put a Skype like service into WhatsApp. Then you will see the big babies MTN and Vodacom crying even more louder lol
[07:55] <magespawn> hi Golynx
[07:55] <magespawn> my blond moment for the week
[07:55] <Golynx> hi magespawn
[07:55] <Golynx> lol all good
[07:56] <Golynx> we're all blond deep down
[07:56] <magespawn> if you have the know how you can set up an asterisk server and make free calls for ever anyway, just need data
[07:58] <Golynx> yeah thats true, but too much work lol
[07:59] <Golynx> WhatsApp got a massive userbase, so having something like that will surely hit the mobile operators hard
[08:00] <Golynx> loss in voice revenue from overseas players is something they cannot stop
[08:02] <Golynx> so they're days of being the fat lazy cats is coming to an end, and they need to change they're business models
[08:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning peoples
[08:06] <Golynx> magespawn: i'm gonna try that someday, seems like a good little private project to take on
[08:07] <charl> good morning
[08:07] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[08:07]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[08:07] <charl> hi magespawn
[08:07] <Golynx> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[08:07] <Golynx> hi charl
[08:07] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy charl
[08:07] <charl> hi Golynx
[08:07] <charl> hi Kilos
[08:08] <magespawn> it is realtively simple and you don't need the expensive equipment if you are not going going to take pots or cell calls
[08:08] <magespawn> hi charl ThatGraemeGuy
[08:09] <magespawn> relatively
[08:09] <magespawn> i have not worked out how to route incoming calls to a cell number through the asterisk yet
[08:10] <Golynx> magespawn: yeah, i think .amr files are the smallest soound files but with the least quality to convert the voice to before sending it
[08:11] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[08:11] <Golynx> why need a cell number
[08:11] <magespawn> i also not sure how the routing would work if you had a paid for sip account
[08:12] <magespawn> for people to call you, i am not sure how the routing would work to your asterisk from the cell network
[08:12] <Kilos> whatever happened to that guy that said he was an asterisk expert
[08:12] <Golynx> lol the whole point is to bypass the cell networks
[08:13] <magespawn> for example, people who do not have an account on your server, how would they call you?
[08:13] <magespawn> that is why skype to skype is free but all the other call you pay for
[08:14] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[08:14] <Maaz> charl: Okay :-)
[08:14] <magespawn> then you start getting into interconnect rates, and nobody would want to pair with you if you have a low number of users
[08:15] <charl> magespawn: i'm curious, how's federation looking with asterisk at the moment
[08:15] <charl> magespawn: with lync you can federate with skype, yahoo etc and with other lync users on other networks
[08:15] <Golynx> they will have usernames that you either type in or click on . That will be send to the server and the server sends it to the other user if his app is on a connection is made and kept open . Thats how i think it should work atleast
[08:16] <charl> magespawn: in other words, can you call another asterisk user or a lync user through the internet?
[08:17] <magespawn> charl as long as the routing between the asterisk servers is setup
[08:17] <magespawn> static ip or dyn dns something like that
[08:17] <charl> magespawn: but then you have to configure the routing between each of the asterisk servers manually? that's not so good
[08:17] <charl> magespawn: you should have all of that work transparently just like with lync
[08:18] <Golynx> this is alot more work then it appears to be lol
[08:18] <magespawn> i am still learning about asterisk and what is the best way for things to work
[08:19] <Golynx> i will rather make use of html5 Websockets with a Nodejs server to do something like this.
[08:19] <charl> lync does it like this: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj204825.aspx and http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj205134.aspx
[08:19] <charl> magespawn: sorry for the difficult questions, i'm just asking because i'm curious :)
[08:20] <charl> Golynx: they are making use of xmpp federation, which in its own is a good standard
[08:20] <magespawn> but for example, internally my asterisk has a static ip of say <IP_ADDRESS> but it is behind a nat router so i would need a dyndns for the external ip then set the port routing to find the asterisk on my internal network
[08:22] <charl> magespawn: you might need to do something dns-related too (in the case of lync) http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj618369.aspx
[08:22] <charl> if you can do something similar with asterisk it would be really great
[08:23] <charl> ooh this is very interesting http://blogs.technet.com/b/rischwen/archive/2013/08/21/series-exchange-2013-and-lync-2013-integration-with-asterisknow-pbx-pt-1.aspx
[08:24] <magespawn> but if you had your asterisk on a vps then the client just has to connect to that either by ip or address
[08:24] <charl> magespawn: if the ip is external to your network and you're using NAT, you would need to find a way to do NAT traversal though ?
[08:25] <magespawn> also if the asterisk is on my private network then the connection is dependant on my adsl speed and connection
[08:26] <charl> yeah but SIP is only for session initiation, so the actual calls should go directly between the endpoints
[08:26] <charl> if you do a call on your internal network it shouldn't make use of your dsl modem
[08:26] <magespawn> using a dynamic dns updater from inside my network would allow you to set a static web address to a changing ip
[08:26] <charl> yeah that's hairy, you could try it though
[08:26] <charl> a friend of mine has it set up on his cable connection
[08:27] <charl> can't you get a static ip on dsl ?
[08:27] <magespawn> charl you can but costs extra
[08:27] <charl> bah :(
[08:27] <charl> on my cable provider you can only get a static ip on a "business" connection and that's a whole different package
[08:27] <charl> i looked at it but they required the signing of a year contract so i backed off and went with the home option instead
[08:29] <magespawn> the idea would be to have an asterisk server at each of the hotels in the group to handle incoming calls for each hotel and have the asterisk route all internal calls through the internet between the various asterisk servers
[08:30] <charl> ah you can do that through a VPN then you can encrypt the traffic too
[08:30] <magespawn> maybe set up a vpn through a vps on the net to handle that traffic
[08:30] <charl> this series is really interesting: http://blogs.technet.com/b/rischwen/archive/tags/asterisknow/
[08:30] <charl> i love the fact that lync uses sip/simple as well
[08:31] <charl> hmm, i would definitely look at getting static ips though, even if it costs a little extra
[08:31] <charl> putting all of that traffic via a vps is also going to cost money
[08:31] <charl> and running vpn's over dynamic ips will just end up creating a potential security risk
[08:32] <magespawn> yup lots of things to consider and make sure that it is stable and secure
[08:32] <charl> openvpn is gold though, it's highly secure
[08:33] <charl> once you got that set up, you're sorted
[08:33] <charl> ok i'm off, need to get some work done, ttyl all
[08:35] <Squirm> everyone here still alive?
[08:35] <Squirm> Maaz: coffee on
[08:35]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[08:36] <Squirm> Maaz: large
[08:36] <Maaz> In a beer mug just for you Squirm
[08:36] <magespawn> also as far as i know asterisk and asteriskNOW are not exactly the same thing, but i stand under correction there
[08:39] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Squirm!
[09:00] <magespawn> hi Squirm
[09:01] <Golynx> hi maiatoday
[09:01] <Golynx> hi Private_User
[09:01] <Golynx> hi Squirm
[09:01] <maiatoday> hi Golynx
[09:02] <Private_User> hi Golynx
[09:02] <Kilos> hiya maiatoday
[09:02] <maiatoday> hi Kilos
[09:24] <magespawn> Kilos, what is the best way to make a copy of your system for re-installing?
[09:24] <Kilos> oh my
[09:24] <Kilos> was remastersys
[09:24] <Kilos> what about cloning
[09:24] <Kilos> or that dd command
[09:25] <magespawn> hmm, have they not carried on with remastersys?
[09:27] <Kilos> peeps said it stopped but i havent checked
[10:06] <Kilos> hi superfly
[10:07] <superfly> hi Kilos
[10:07] <Golynx> hi superfly
[10:08] <Golynx> did my first hello-world app with Flask on Sunday. I will play around with it some more, its great
[10:09] <superfly> cool
[10:09] <superfly> and it's not braindead like PHP
[10:09] <Golynx> lol
[10:09] <Golynx> but a bit confusing
[10:10] <Golynx> i was trying to make a guestbook app from the same directory as the hello-world app, but failed
[10:11] <Golynx> seems like it has to be setup at the wsgi file as root url or something
[10:14] <Kilos> hi Vince-0
[10:41] <Kilos> hi psyatw
[10:41] <psyatw> hi Kilos
[10:41] <psyatw> hi magespawn
[10:41] <psyatw> hi Private_User
[10:42] <magespawn> hi psyatw
[10:42] <Golynx> hi psyatw
[10:42] <Private_User> hi psyatw
[10:42] <psyatw> hi Golynx
[10:42] <magespawn> in and out like a yoyo today
[10:45] <Kilos> oh well
[10:46] <Private_User> thats what she said...
[10:46] <Private_User> LOL
[10:47] <Kilos> hehe
[10:49] <Private_User> ah damn said it too late
[10:49] <Private_User> :p
[10:50] <Kilos> hi liamT
[10:51] <liamT> greetings
[12:13] <Vince-0> !
[12:13] <Vince-0> whats hapanan in IRC
[12:25] <liamT> not alot it seems
[15:14] <Kilos> hi Iraeeu
[15:14] <Kilos> charl bot again?
[15:15] <Kilos> pings this one
[16:19] <Kilos-> hi Golynx
[16:20] <Golynx> hi Kilos-
[17:23] <Private_User> evening
[17:39] <charl> hi Private_User
[17:39] <charl> good evening all
[17:40] <charl> Kilos: doesn't look like a bot
[17:40] <Kilos> shame
[17:40] <Kilos> and i ctcp pinged him
[17:41] <charl> did you get a response ?
[17:41] <Kilos> yes
[17:41] <charl> ah no then it doesn't conform to the "profile" that was posted on github
[17:41] <Kilos> quick too
[17:41] <charl> how's it going?
[17:41] <charl> otherwise :)
[17:42] <Kilos> oh well, peeps will learn to say hi when they are greeted
[17:42] <Kilos> good ty
[17:42] <Kilos> and you?
[17:42] <charl> i'm doing well, got some cool projects going right now
[17:42] <charl> i'm happy that i can ditch jdeveloper and eclipse and use vim again for all my development
[17:42] <Kilos> my buntu forgot how to automount usb goodies
[17:43] <charl> in i3 it never automounts anything in any case
[17:43] <charl> i just do it manually
[17:43] <charl> i actually managed to convert one of my colleagues into also using i3, he was very impressed
[17:44] <charl> the speed, simplicity, how nice it is to launch applications, etc
[17:44] <Kilos> ya i use diskutility and they show mounted there but after unmount and then mount buttons pressed then they show
[17:44] <Kilos> whats i3 again?
[17:44] <charl> it's a modern tiling window manager
[17:44] <charl> http://i3wm.org/
[17:45] <Private_User> hi charl
[17:45] <charl> but it's really clean and neat compared to the other implementations i've seen
[17:45] <charl> and it's extremely highly configurable except that the default configuration is fine for most users
[17:45] <charl> so it's (almost) perfect for many seasoned linux users :)
[17:47] <Kilos> code peeps ya
[17:47] <Kilos> i like my mouse
[17:47] <Kilos> dont believe in wasting money
[17:47] <Kilos> bought mouse so it gotta work
[17:48] <charl> lol
[17:49] <Kilos> vim was hard work for me
[17:49] <Kilos> but i managed the hello world part
[17:50] <charl> but it does pay off, afaik vim is still one of the most versatile editors available today
[17:50] <charl> there is practically nothing it either can't do or can't be made to do with some addons
[17:51] <Kilos> ya man but i dont need to edit much and nano works well when i must
[17:52] <charl> yeah then it doesn't matter
[17:52] <charl> there are plenty good editors
[17:53] <charl> i used to use nano myself (or pico before that on old redhat systems)
[17:55] <Kilos> nano is lekker for me
[17:56] <charl> it can be nasty without the -w switch though
[17:56] <charl> line wrapping issues
[17:57] <charl> got bitten by that a few times :D
[17:57] <Kilos> ai!
[18:00] <Kilos> haha Golynx the future is so bright you gotta wear shades
[18:01] <Kilos> 8)
[18:01] <Golynx> lol
[18:02] <Golynx> where is the sun shining so bright Kilos
[18:02] <Kilos> yay i even get the keys to use for smileys on konversation
[18:02] <Kilos> you the one with shades on
[18:03] <Golynx> oh cool 8)
[18:04] <Kilos> Golynx has joined this channel (~jarrydlyn@<IP_ADDRESS>).
[18:05] <Golynx> hmm  :|
[18:08] <Kilos> that doesnt show as a recognized emoticon/smiley thing
[18:08] <Kilos> text only
[18:09] <Golynx> its an (indifferent) smiley on my client
[18:10] <Kilos> lol
[18:10] <Kilos> maybe i gotta put some plugin or something to see then all but too much work
[18:10] <Golynx> like :/  or :\  smiley
[18:10] <Kilos> ya dont see those
[18:11] <Golynx> me neither lol
[18:12] <Golynx> i only got 11 smileys to choose from ,  :)  :(  ;)  :o  :D  8-)  :|  :'(  :@  :p  '<
[18:14] <Kilos> oh with konversation i gotta remember the keys thats why a hardly ever use smileys
[18:14] <Golynx> but yeah irc clients differ on what smiley codes they support
[18:14] <Kilos> xchat doesnt show anything but text
[18:14] <Golynx> lol
[18:15] <Golynx> they should have a dropdown list of smileys
[18:15] <Golynx> with images, makes no sense to only show  text for a full irc client
[18:15] <Kilos> (c)
[18:15] <Kilos> haha
[18:15] <Kilos> on mxit that shows chillies
[18:15] <Kilos> (C)
[18:16] <Kilos> thats shoulda been a bigger cup
[18:16] <Golynx> lol
[18:16] <Golynx> and (H) for heart
[18:16] <Kilos> <3
[18:17] <Kilos> (H)
[18:17] <Golynx> yeah that <3 fb uses too
[18:17] <Kilos> ya cap h tween brackets
[18:17] <Kilos> fb?
[18:18] <Golynx> but its too many variations though to make a universal list that all chat apps should use
[18:18] <Golynx> facebook
[18:20] <charl> skype also has a huge list
[18:20] <Kilos> too much work smileys
[18:21] <Kilos> need only to remember <3 for my daughter
[18:21] <Golynx> a smiley is just a template that links to an image, its kinda easy to make
[18:23] <Golynx> when are you meeting her Kilos
[18:23] <Kilos> no man i remember 3 now so thats enough
[18:23] <Kilos> will never have the money to go so far
[18:23] <Kilos> but we chat daily and she sends me all her completed commisions and so on
[18:25] <Golynx> oh thats good, she wants her dad to know she's living her dream
[18:25] <Golynx> never loose hope though, maybe someday you will meet
[18:25] <Kilos> and i get every song she records
[18:27] <Golynx> nice, i will like to hear some of her songs someday aswell
[18:27] <kbmonkey> hi hi - who's talking about me hmmm?
[18:27]  * kbmonkey 's ears burns
[18:27] <Kilos> hi kbmonkey
[18:27] <Kilos> she sings a dream Golynx ask the guys
[18:28] <Golynx> hi kbmonkey
[18:28] <Golynx> i bet she does Kilos :)
[18:28] <Kilos> no one said anything bout you kbmonkey
[18:29] <Golynx> i always wanted to draw like that , but my hand is not that steady
[18:29] <Kilos> if someone can rip her idols audition for you you will hear the best
[18:29] <Kilos> xfactor audtition
[18:29] <Kilos> the video is lotsa data
[18:30] <kbmonkey> I saw my away log mentioned me last night Kilos ;)
[18:30] <Kilos> maybe some clever oke can rip the audio out of it
[18:30] <Kilos> oh so long ago kbmonkey  sjoe
[18:30] <Golynx> its okay Kilos i take your word for it ;)
[18:31] <Kilos> kbmonkey you clever how do you rip audio out of a video file
[18:32] <kbmonkey> ffmpeg!
[18:32] <kbmonkey> it is amazing
[18:32] <Kilos> from cli?
[18:32] <kbmonkey> yes
[18:32] <Kilos> well give whole command man
[18:32] <Kilos> ai! ek sukkel
[18:33] <kbmonkey> ai ai hang vas meneer ;)
[18:33] <Kilos> lol
[18:33] <Kilos> hi captine
[18:33] <inetpro> Kilos: ek het hom gekry
[18:33] <Kilos> wat inetpro ?
[18:34] <inetpro> die hoendermaaier
[18:34] <Kilos> mooi
[18:34] <Kilos> slag
[18:34] <Kilos> maak n hoed van die vel
[18:34] <inetpro> https://plus.google.com/114254397525521567468/posts
[18:35] <Kilos> sjoe
[18:35] <inetpro> actually, my tuinier het hom self in die hoenderhok vasgepen vanoggend
[18:35] <Kilos> gelukkig ne
[18:35] <inetpro> wat sê jy wat is dit?
[18:35] <Kilos> groot skade gemaak daai ding
[18:35] <inetpro> baie
[18:36] <Kilos> wag ek kyk mooi
[18:36] <inetpro> en as ons nou rustig sit en dink dan pla die ding ons al amper drie jare lank
[18:36] <inetpro> het lank net eiers gesteel
[18:37] <charl> inetpro: what is it? what type of animal?
[18:38] <inetpro> charl: nee man, ek wil eers hoor wat sê Kilos
[18:38] <charl> oh i see now you don't know either :)
[18:39] <charl> sorry haven't read the whole conversation
[18:39] <Kilos> sjoe lyk nie soos n inheemse dier nie
[18:39] <captine> hi there
[18:39] <Kilos> maybe an imported pet that escaped
[18:40] <captine> anyone here on afrihost?  am thinking of changing but not sure of the quality of the connetions
[18:40] <inetpro> looks to me like the Slender mongoose (Afrikaans: Swartkwasmuishond)
[18:40] <inetpro> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slender_mongoose
[18:40] <Kilos> weet  jy inetpro ?
[18:41] <kbmonkey> captine, I was very happy with them for a long while
[18:41] <Kilos> jy seker?
[18:41] <kbmonkey> on their mifi device now, but their DSL is on par
[18:41] <inetpro> wel nie 100% nie, maar ander fotos lyk so
[18:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> inetpro: isn't that a meerkat?
[18:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh.... hi :-)
[18:42] <kbmonkey> Kilos, you want the audio extracted in the same encoded format, wav, or ogg?
[18:42] <charl> is there any chance of it being a type of marten ?
[18:42] <charl> they are not native to africa though, they are native to europe
[18:43] <inetpro> see: http://www.warwicktarboton.co.za/other%20crea%20pgs/248SMong.html
[18:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> captine: been with afrihost for 4+ years, very satisfied
[18:43] <Kilos> doesnt matter kbmonkey
[18:43] <charl> ah yes it looks a lot like that mongoose
[18:43] <Kilos> mp3 better though
[18:45]  * kbmonkey wonders how mp3 is better
[18:45] <Kilos> sjoe inetpro musta been someones pet, they arent local here but
[18:46] <kbmonkey> http://savvyadmin.com/extract-audio-from-video-files-to-wav-using-ffmpeg/
[18:46] <Kilos> here on the way to harties was an animal park that flooded some years back and everything escaped
[18:46] <Kilos> i dont like wav its to winfied and always larger
[18:46] <Kilos> ty my monkey
[18:47] <kbmonkey> in a nutshell
[18:47] <kbmonkey> ffmpeg -i video.mkv -acodec pcm_s16le -ac 2 audio.wav
[18:47] <Kilos> where do you put the path to the video?
[18:48] <kbmonkey> lame -V0 -q0 --vbr-new audio.wav audio.mp3
[18:48] <kbmonkey> video.mkv is your video file
[18:49] <kbmonkey> then you use the 'lame' command to make it to mp3
[18:49] <Kilos> and must it be in home
[18:49] <kbmonkey> or for ogg:
[18:50] <kbmonkey> ffmpeg -i audio.wav  -acodec libvorbis audio.ogg
[18:50] <kbmonkey> install libogg for that, or lame for mp3
[18:50] <kbmonkey> nah, it can be in any directory that your user can read and write to Kilos
[18:51] <Kilos> no /home/miles/Desktop/?
[18:51] <kbmonkey> you probably get GUIs for these, but I cannot suggest any
[18:51] <kbmonkey> yes Desktop would work
[18:51] <Kilos> no i only want to rip one
[18:51] <kbmonkey> lol, I don't have a Desktop :p
[18:51] <Golynx> Kilos its fine , you dont have to do it :)
[18:51] <Kilos> lol
[18:52] <Golynx> like i said i take your word for it
[18:52] <Kilos> it will be for me too Golynx because i dont wanna see the vid everytime
[18:52] <Golynx> oh okay
[18:53] <Kilos> ty kbmonkey
[18:53] <kbmonkey> yw kilos :) to get all these tools you can run:
[18:54] <kbmonkey> sudo apt-get install ffmpeg lame
[18:54] <inetpro> sjoe, you guys were chatting away today
[18:54]  * inetpro giving up reading the backlogs
[18:54] <kbmonkey> mine says it will need 700Kb to install
[18:54] <Kilos> ty kbmonkey
[18:54] <Kilos> i can always rely on my monkey
[18:54] <Kilos> mostly
[18:54] <Kilos> hehe
[18:54] <kbmonkey> mostly
[18:55] <kbmonkey> ;D
[18:56] <Kilos> haha
[18:56] <Kilos> 214kB download only
[18:56] <Kilos> ffmpeg was already latest version
[18:57] <kbmonkey> neat :D
[18:58] <kbmonkey> we can find you a ffmpeg gui if you like, but I know Kilos is so near professional with the command line ;)
[18:58] <Kilos> dunno what its installed for but ya
[18:58] <Kilos> no this is good ty kbmonkey
[18:58] <kbmonkey> keeps the brain sharp
[18:58] <Kilos> lol
[18:58] <kbmonkey> haha
[18:58] <kbmonkey> ffmpeg converts video and audio and lame makes mp3
[18:59] <Kilos> im good at apt-get update and aptitude upgrade and install and remove
[18:59] <Kilos> and nano sort my nm
[19:00] <captine> ThatGraemeGuy, thanks.  What package you on?  I am on cybersmart 20gig 10meg + 50gig addon
[19:00] <Kilos> inetpro there were of those at the snake park at harties before they got washed out around 92 we think
[19:01] <kbmonkey> snakes?
[19:01] <Kilos> 2002
[19:02] <Kilos> mongoose that aint from this area
[19:02] <Kilos> killed the pros ckicken farming
[19:02] <Kilos> chicken
[19:03] <kbmonkey> ohhh
[19:03] <kbmonkey> the snake's natural enemy
[19:04] <kbmonkey> I watched an empisode of he-man, and orko the wizard gigantified a mongoose to scare away the snake men.
[19:06] <Kilos> lol
[19:11] <Kilos> ami kbmonkey winff is the gui thing
[19:12] <Kilos> in ubuntu repos
[19:12] <kbmonkey> aaah
[19:13] <inetpro> Kilos: interesting
[19:13] <Kilos> yeah
[19:14] <kbmonkey> good find!
[19:15] <inetpro> Kilos: wikipedia tells me "The slender mongoose, with up to fifty subspecies, are found throughout sub-Saharan Africa"
[19:15] <Kilos> ya but we never seen them in this area
[19:16] <Kilos> swaar been here for 65 years
[19:16] <inetpro> ok
[19:16] <Kilos> we got different ones here
[19:16] <Kilos> also steal eggs
[19:36] <Golynx> lol this is so funny. Cellc hit back at MTN's ad that was supposed to hit back at Cellc over their first ad about MTN :D www.techcentral.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Cell-C-ad-640.jpg
[19:37] <Golynx> http://www.techcentral.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Cell-C-ad-640.jpg
[19:38] <inetpro> Golynx: lol
[19:38] <inetpro> yes that was very original
[19:39] <inetpro> am just a bit surprised that these guys keep going at each other like that
[19:39] <inetpro> typical american style
[19:40] <Golynx> lol , looks like neither one wana back down
[19:40] <inetpro> as far as I understood this type of advertising was never allowed here
[19:40] <Golynx> but Cellc will always wana fight the hardest , since their the smaller guy
[19:41] <Golynx> yeah i never saw anything like this too in this country
[19:42] <Golynx> but desperate times calls for desperate measures i guess
[19:43] <inetpro> is it not covered in The Competition Act?
[19:44] <inetpro> maybe something like harmful competitive practices?
[19:45] <inetpro> am not sure and definitely not a fundi in this field, but I now there was something
[19:45] <inetpro> know as well
[19:46] <Golynx> i think there must be some law against this kinda behaviour in all countries
[19:46] <Golynx> it not healthy to compete this way thats for sure
[19:46] <Kilos> whew kbmonkey just the audio is 7.8m
[19:47] <Golynx> Kilos i use Audacity to cut my audio
[19:47] <Kilos> winff works well straight to mp3 first time
[19:48] <Kilos> you mean from the front and back Golynx ?
[19:48] <Golynx> front and back meaning "Channels" ?
[19:48] <inetpro> Golynx: hmm... in the states I noticed competition like this very distinctly when I was there in 1993 I think
[19:49] <inetpro> and I know it was fully legal
[19:50] <Kilos> no the lead up where peeps chat first before song starts
[19:50] <Kilos> i think i tried audacity quite a while back but didnt get anywhere
[19:51] <inetpro> audacity is very useful for audio editing
[19:51] <Golynx> inetpro yeah in the US companies are naturally more straight forward about competition, so it makes sense
[19:51] <kbmonkey> okay Kilos, the -q0 option means high quality. you could probably drop it to q6 - normal quality
[19:51] <Kilos> ok
[19:51] <Golynx> oh ok Kilos
[19:52] <kbmonkey> q6 is cd quality if I remember correctly
[19:52] <Kilos> ah
[19:52] <Golynx> there is many audio settings in Audacity though , effects too
[19:53] <kbmonkey> audacity is great :)
[19:53] <Kilos> i just want to cut the beginning off where they introduce her and ask what song and life history etc so i only have the song
[19:54] <kbmonkey> hmm, it has been a while since I made any songs in milkytracker
[19:54] <inetpro> Golynx: I think this article is relevant to our discussion:
[19:54] <inetpro> Is a legal loophole opening for comparative advertising?  http://www.bizcommunity.com/Article/196/12/58341.html
[19:54] <Golynx> Kilos yes Audacity will do that
[19:55] <Kilos> good
[19:55] <Golynx> Just select a on the timeframe that you wana cut and you can play the selected part too
[19:58] <Golynx> inetpro thats a good article
[19:58] <Golynx> i dunno much about the ad. industry though to make this a discussion :)
[20:04] <inetpro> :-)
[20:18]  * Kilos will read the audacity manual. dunno what time frames are
[20:19] <Kilos> you will hear her one day Golynx big men cry when they hear her sing
[20:19] <Kilos> ne inetpro
[20:20] <inetpro> uh, cry?
[20:20] <Kilos> nie jy nie man
[20:20] <inetpro> ai!
[20:21] <Kilos> nuvohet gehuil
[20:21] <Kilos> en baie ander mans
[20:21] <Kilos> jy te hard
[20:21] <inetpro> ai!
[20:22] <inetpro> sorry oom
[20:22]  * inetpro calling it a night
[20:22] <inetpro> goeienag
[20:23] <psydroid_> goedenacht inetpro
[20:23] <Kilos> night inetpro sleep tight
[20:24] <Kilos> im gonna crash too. night all. sleep tight
[20:24] <kbmonkey> ah night Kilos
[20:24] <kbmonkey> good idea, need my rest too!


[22:49]  * PrivateVoid waves
[22:49] <PrivateVoid> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Education
[23:12] <PrivateVoid> calling pleia2
[23:14]  * pleia2 waves
[23:15] <pleia2> nice looking wiki page :)
[23:16] <PrivateVoid> thanks pleia
[23:16] <PrivateVoid> need to talk about some items if you have time
[23:19]  * PrivateVoid hopes he did not get disconnected and pleia2 is waiting for a response
[23:19] <pleia2> nah, in the middle of making some cookies
[23:19] <PrivateVoid> cookies...
[23:19] <PrivateVoid> yum
[23:19] <pleia2> sugar cookies!
[23:19] <PrivateVoid> do you have time pleia2 ?
[23:20] <pleia2> sure
[23:21] <PrivateVoid> I am under the impression that when the Beginners Team Education Focus Group holds IRC based classes you would like us to use this channel; correct?
[23:21]  * pleia2 nods
[23:21] <PrivateVoid> is the Ubuntu Education team using any other medium for delivery of 'classes'?
[23:22] <pleia2> well, we're sort of just "Ubuntu Classroom" rather than a full Education team
[23:22] <pleia2> and "Classroom" is just IRC, for now
[23:23] <PrivateVoid> are there any plans for a Moodle style resource?
[23:23] <pleia2> not at the moment, we simply don't have the volunteers to handle such a thing
[23:23] <PrivateVoid> Well...
[23:24] <PrivateVoid> I am hoping to take some of our classes and do more than IRC
[23:24] <PrivateVoid> it would likely be with the wiki and forums
[23:24] <pleia2> we've juggled ideas for a lot of post irc-session methods of summarizing classes
[23:24] <PrivateVoid> since we do not have Moodle... or some other class type software
[23:25] <PrivateVoid> I was more thinking of content that might be best done with assignments turned in, etc... and the IRC is the live 'instructor' help
[23:25] <pleia2> early on people would blog about the sessions and we'd link to those (not fantastic, some people don't keep blogs forever), another idea was summarizing in the wiki, but we don't have enough people to do that, and the instructors could rarely devote time to wiki AND a class in irc
[23:26] <PrivateVoid> I agree...
[23:26] <PrivateVoid> to me, though, some material works well with IRC as the main focus... and other material does not
[23:26] <pleia2> are you interested in using moodle?
[23:26] <PrivateVoid> programming is one of those types of material that IRC is not suited for the main method of teaching
[23:27] <PrivateVoid> I have used Moodle and Sharepoint in the K-12 district I work in
[23:27] <PrivateVoid> both are effective...
[23:27] <pleia2> I mean, you say you "don't have it" - is there a reason?
[23:27] <PrivateVoid> the key difference with Moodle is that is has 'quizes' and other activities
[23:28] <PrivateVoid> I said "don't have it"?
[23:28] <pleia2>  < PrivateVoid> since we do not have Moodle... or some other class type software
[23:28] <PrivateVoid> ah...
[23:28] <PrivateVoid> Got it
[23:28] <pleia2> so you were going to use wiki and/or forums
[23:29] <PrivateVoid> Yes... the wiki and forums can be used to give people 'assignments' and tutorials
[23:29] <pleia2> Linode.com gave me a VPS to use for ubuntu pennsylvania, we don't use anywhere near the full resources so I can use it for other ubuntu activitiges
[23:29] <PrivateVoid> the instructor would receive the submissions... and review them with students
[23:29] <PrivateVoid> Cool...
[23:30] <pleia2> so if you wanted to use Moodle, I have hosting space
[23:30] <PrivateVoid> awesome...
[23:30] <PrivateVoid> we will see how things evolve
[23:30]  * pleia2 nods
[23:30] <PrivateVoid> it depends on getting people 'interested' and then actually doing stuff
[23:31] <PrivateVoid> a great many people raise their hand only to never show
[23:31] <PrivateVoid> that is why the wiki may be the best...
[23:31] <PrivateVoid> tutorials on certain subjects are there for people to use at any time...
[23:31] <PrivateVoid> if they get stuck they can 'ask' the instructor(s)
[23:32]  * pleia2 nods
[23:32] <PrivateVoid> and occasionally IRC sessions can be held for those classes
[23:32] <PrivateVoid> I am also trying to compile resources -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/FocusGroups/Education/Resources
[23:33] <PrivateVoid> I think the single biggest issue is keeping things current... too many items get 'old' and forgotten
[23:33] <pleia2> yeah
[23:34]  * pleia2 attends to cookies
[23:34] <pleia2> brb
[23:34] <PrivateVoid> I gotta go help with baths... brb myself
[23:56] <pleia2> PrivateVoid: mind if we schedule a Classroom meeting to pick up this discussion?
[23:56] <pleia2> I'm sure others would be interested, while I've focused on simply getting more sessions in here, there were always people thinking about expanding beyond that
[23:58] <PrivateVoid> pleia2, not at all... would love to schedule ont...
[23:59] <pleia2> when is good for you? I'm busy wednesday evening but otherwise pretty free
[23:59] <PrivateVoid> I want to get more sessions in here as well pleia2, but some subject matters will likely be best covered with multi-formats
[23:59]  * pleia2 nods
[23:59] <PrivateVoid> Most evenings after 8pm EST are good for me


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[03:36] <Unit193> Boy is *someone* busy!
[03:36] <bluesabre> Boy is *someone* tired
[03:36] <bluesabre> :D
[03:37] <bluesabre> Wanted to clear some of my list
[03:37] <bluesabre> Tomorrow, applying more patches to things
[03:37] <bluesabre> Wooooo
[03:37] <Unit193> Have fun? :3
[03:37] <bluesabre> :)
[03:37] <bluesabre> Indeed (probably)
[03:37] <bluesabre> Have a good night!
[11:19] <brainwash> bluesabre, Unit193: parole and -settings need a new version string https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[11:19] <Unit193> I believe I can't touch those repos.
[11:21] <bluesabre> Yeah, need to get those moved to xubuntu-dev
[11:21] <bluesabre> (and fixed while I'm at it)
[11:21] <Unit193> ...I'd say "and git", but that'd require the imports to move to git too.


[00:01] <patrickmw> bug 760275
[00:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 760275 in Ubuntu Natty (and 2 other projects) "simplified chinese has missing label translations for applets (affects: 1) (heat: 471)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760275
[00:03] <bdmurray> patrickmw: indicator-me I think
[00:04] <patrickmw> bdmurray, ah yes.  thanks for checking
[10:01] <skaet> jibel,  we're rebuilding the desktops to pick up the new version of WUBI.    No change to the live file system, so it should just be the WUBI tests that need to be rerun.
[10:02] <jibel> skaet, yes, that's what we were talking about on #u-release.
[10:03] <skaet> jibel, yup.
[10:31] <cjwatson> Ubuntu desktop posted - I've confirmed that the only diffs are dists/natty/Release.gpg (just regenerated, Release stayed the same), .disk/info (timestamp), and wubi.exe
[10:31] <cjwatson> (bug 771517)
[10:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 771517 in wubi "Natty Wubi install via ubiquity fails saying no such file or directory found (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/771517
[10:33] <cjwatson> Kubuntu desktop posted - likewise confirmed
[11:22] <cjwatson> Xubuntu desktop posted (Wubi again)
[11:23] <cjwatson> hopefully that's the last of the respins
[11:23] <cjwatson> sorry for that delayed posting
[12:26] <cjwatson> Ubuntu DVD posted; the changes are partman-auto bug 770041 and the Wubi bugs
[12:26] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 770041 in partman-auto (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "partitioner hangs if libparted sees partitions for which device nodes don't exist (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/770041
[12:28] <davmor2> cjwatson: I didn't think wubi worked on the dvd as the image is too large did that get fixed?
[12:29] <cjwatson> dunno
[12:29] <cjwatson> the partman-auto bug is important in any event I think
[12:29] <cjwatson> and Kubuntu has the kubuntu-full bug that merits a respin
[13:53] <patdk-wk> hmm
[14:12] <jibel> There are a few builds with still uncovered testcases:
[14:12] <jibel> Kubuntu Alternate amd64+mac/powerpc
[14:12] <jibel> Kubuntu Desktop amd64, mac, powerpc and i386
[14:12] <jibel> Kubuntu Mobile armel+omap3 and omap4
[14:12] <jibel> Mythbuntu Desktop amd64 and i386
[14:12] <jibel> Ubuntu Desktop amd64, amd64+mac, i386
[14:12] <jibel> Ubuntu DVD amd64 and i386
[14:12] <jibel> Xubuntu Desktop amd64 and i386
[14:12] <jibel> Feel free to pick one and give it a try
[15:10] <cjwatson> Kubuntu DVDs posted: changes are fixed partman-auto, new tzdata, installable kubuntu-full, new Wubi (if that matters)
[15:43] <patrickmw> good morning
[15:43] <patrickmw> or evening :)
[15:46] <highvoltage> hello
[15:47] <patrickmw> hightvoltage, how is edubuntu doing?
[15:48] <highvoltage> pretty much ready to roll!
[15:48] <patrickmw> very nice
[15:49] <highvoltage> (btw topic still mentions 10.04.2 candidate images)
[15:50] <patrickmw> yeah, I saw that.  I'll get that changed
[15:56] <patrickmw> jibel, pedro_, are either of you an op in this channel?  highvoltage pointed out the topic is not accurate :)
[15:56] <pedro_> patrickmw, heh just tried and cannot : -ChanServ- You are not authorized to perform this operation.
[15:59] <pedro_> ara might be able to help though :-)
[15:59] <pedro_> ara,  ^
[15:59] <ara> sure
[16:00] <patrickmw> ara, thank you!
[16:01] <pedro_> thanks ara
[16:01] <highvoltage> Go Natty!
[16:01]  * pedro_ doing kubuntu dvd
[16:31] <bdmurray> Is there some iso test I can help with?
[16:32] <patrickmw> Does any one know what the Frontend and Backend Mythbuntu tests are supposed to validate? http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/5671
[16:33] <bdmurray> patrickmw: Are there different install choices with it?
[16:33] <tgm4883> patrickmw, installation mostly, verify that the backend packages get installed
[16:34] <tgm4883> if you have the hardware, the ability to start the backend would be helpful
[16:34] <patrickmw> tgm4883, I will give it a shot
[16:34] <tgm4883> Because of the nature of MythTV, if you don't have the hardware to test with it gets a little more difficult
[16:38] <patrickmw> bdmurray, I don't have the hardware to test any of the incomplete images on the tracker.  Not sure if that's the same case with you
[16:40] <bdmurray> if its all powerpc, mac, and arm then I don't either
[16:45] <patrickmw> bdmurray, If I install Natty and I select simplified Chinese when it prompts for your language, will the language pack get fully installed before the user logs in?
[16:45] <patrickmw> Or does the user still have install the pack using lang support?
[16:46] <bdmurray> patrickmw: I'm not clear on that works
[16:47] <davmor2> patrickmw: you're best bet is to ask cjwatson or ev
[16:48] <patrickmw> davmor2, thanks
[16:58] <jibel> patrickmw, langpack for zh-hans in on the cd, your session should be localized from the start
[16:58] <patrickmw> jibel, yeah, that's what I thought
[17:47] <charlie-tca> QA meeting in #ubuntu-quality in 15 minutes.
[17:58] <vladimir33> Hi all! Can someone help me? I was testing ubuntu 11.04 beta 2 when unexpected problem appeared, system tried to send a bug report , but unfortunately I didn't have internet access, so it failed to file a bug. is it possible just to save a report and / or take it out from some folder and send it manually?
[18:02] <charlie-tca> vladimir33: you can use the procedure herre - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Filing%20bugs%20when%20off-line
[18:07] <vladimir33> thanks. i've read it already, but how about if you don't know about a reason. it was said something about a modprobe problem. then i managed to find a file like 'sbin???modprobe???'. but i was allowed to open it and investigate it.
[18:08] <vladimir33> and it doesn't happen twice. resuming after suspend test that bug didn't appear again.
[18:15] <charlie-tca> I would wait to see if it shows up again, and if not, count it as a one time fail and not report it
[18:17] <vladimir33> ok. i'll check it.
[18:18] <njin> hello, can someone look why the tracker show yesterday tests ? (for ubuntu amd64)
[18:20] <jibel> njin, because we respun the images without a rebuild of the livefs to ship a new version of wubi. excepted wubi, all the other tests are still valid
[18:21] <njin> jibel: hello dear, today i've started a11y install and it seems going well, at now, i can't understand
[18:40] <charlie-tca> zsyncing mythbuntu
[18:41] <charlie-tca> njin: If it works, we are happy
[18:42] <njin> charlie-tca: i'm worry, missed, one day works other no
[18:43] <charlie-tca> Yeah, sometimes it goes that way. It might depend on the day, or what is already there, I don't know.
[18:43] <njin> i'll go to test on another hardware hoping it still working
[18:43] <charlie-tca> I will settle for 50% working on that
[18:49] <jibel> charlie-tca, mythbuntu tests have already been done, just the tracker need an update.
[18:49] <jibel> doing it now
[18:50] <charlie-tca> Thanks, jibel
[18:50] <jibel> patrickmw, ^
[18:50] <njin> jibel: ayy install goes well on the first pc, but yesterday it wasn't working, what i've to do ?
[18:50] <njin> ayy/a11y
[18:51] <jibel> is it the problem with the sound being muted ?
[18:52] <jibel> njin, ^
[18:53] <njin> lloking for bug number
[18:53] <jibel> one of the problem with a11y is the reliability of at-spi
[18:53] <njin> jibel: bug 769591
[18:53] <jibel> when it get stuck, simply kill at-spi-registryd, it will respawn automatically and will 'fix' the problem in most of the caes
[18:53] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 769591 in at-spi (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "many screen reader hangs and buffering during a11y installation (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/769591
[18:53] <jibel> cases
[18:54] <jibel> yeah, what I said above.
[18:54] <charlie-tca> yup
[18:54] <njin> ok, thanks
[18:55] <jibel> njin, should be better in Oneiric with at-spi2
[18:55] <njin> Great
[18:56] <njin> well, i'm going to test on this machine, see you later
[18:56]  * jibel -> dinner
[19:48] <njin> well, a11y installation is ok on two different machines!!! but on one orca don't read apport popup
[19:53] <chadadavis> I see the tracker was not reset after the last rebuild of desktop (today). Is that intentional?
[19:53] <charlie-tca> chadadavis: yes, the only change was to Wubi
[19:54] <chadadavis> charlie-tca, great. Thank you.
[19:55] <charlie-tca> You are welcome
[20:30] <patrickmw> jibel, ping
[20:30] <txomon> hi jibel, can we review the bug 765664
[20:31] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 765664 in compiz (Ubuntu) "compiz not working after upgrade (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/765664
[20:31] <jibel> patrickmw, pong
[20:31] <jibel> txomon, sure
[20:32] <patrickmw> jibel, it appears we have limited hardware to test the remaining ISOs. Other than testing images, is there something people can do to help?
[20:33] <jibel> patrickmw, yeah but triage is a great activity as well.
[20:33] <txomon> I upgraded Ubuntu, just as the iso testing guide says, and only with that, (nothing touched), the tab for special effects dissapeared
[20:33] <txomon> patrickmw: I cant test i386 and 64
[20:33] <txomon> is there any critical image?
[20:34] <patrickmw> jibel, could you please post the link to the ISO testing bugs? ;)
[20:34] <jibel> patrickmw, and also very important is sru verification
[20:34]  * patdk-wk still would love to know why his iscsi isn't working :)
[20:34] <jibel> there is a list of pending sru here http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html
[20:35] <jibel> patrickmw, SRUs in natty-proposed can already be tested with the current candidates
[20:36] <jibel> txomon, I thought I added a comment after your reply to the bug report but apparently I didn't.
[20:37] <jibel> txomon, you can configure compiz with ccsm, is it installed on your system ?
[20:37] <txomon> nope...
[20:37] <txomon> im going to upgrade another 64x computer
[20:37] <txomon> and I hope it works for this one now
[20:38] <jibel> txomon, then when you click on the top right power button there is an item 'system settings' in the menu
[20:38] <jibel> and in the system settings there is a CompizConfig setting manager or something approaching.
[20:39] <txomon> ok
[20:40] <jibel> patrickmw, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.importance%3Alist=UNDECIDED&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.tag=iso-testing+natty&field.tags_combinator=ALL&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.has_cve.used=&field.omit_dupes.
[20:40] <jibel> used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.affects_me.used=&field.has_no_package.used=&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_branches.used=&field.has_branches=on&field.has_no_branches.used=&field.has_no_branches=on&field.has_blueprints.used=&field.has_blueprints=on&field.has_no_blueprints.used=&field.has_no_blueprints=on&search=Search
[20:40] <jibel> :-)
[20:40] <jibel> sorry
[20:40] <txomon> xD
[20:41] <jibel> in lp it means new/undecided in Ubuntu with tags iso-testing and natty
[20:41] <txomon> jibel: is there any way to upgrade from 10.04 directly to 11.04?
[20:41] <patdk-wk> sure
[20:41] <patdk-wk> supported? nope
[20:41] <jibel> txomon, no, you can upgrade from LTS to LTS or N to N+1
[20:41] <txomon> oki
[20:44] <jibel> patdk-wk, can your iscsi setup be created with VMs only ? I can try to replicate it but my knowledge of iscsi setup is close to void.
[20:57] <txomon> ubuntu 11.04 is going to be released in 2 hrs?
[20:59] <charlie-tca> Ubuntu 11.04 will be released on April 28, normally before the end of the day UTC timezone
[21:03] <txomon> so there is no official hour?
[21:26] <Patrickdk> jibel, I would assume so
[21:27] <Patrickdk> one vm with dhcp + tftp + iscsitarget
[21:28] <Patrickdk> and the other just an plain blank install
[21:28] <Patrickdk> I need to test it out here sometime, if I have a moment
[21:36] <Patrickdk> ok, downloading iso
[21:36] <Patrickdk> will be able to test later tonight I hope
[23:19] <cjwatson> jibel: so, our fix for bug 771517 has been checked out OK by Erick.  Are you OK with me posting that new version to the tracker?
[23:19] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 771517 in wubi "Natty Wubi install via ubiquity fails saying no such file or directory found (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/771517
[23:24] <jibel> cjwatson, that's good news, go ahead and post it to the tracker.
[23:24] <cjwatson> ok, great
[23:25] <skaet> :)
[23:25] <jibel> I repartition a system again to be able to test it.
[23:26] <jibel> that's great to change the system configuration to fit the software requirements ;-)
[23:31] <cjwatson> pposted
[23:31] <cjwatson> *posted (argh, keyboard)
[23:32] <cjwatson> please carry over old tests as appropriate
[23:38] <pace_t_zulu> i'm testing the "Ubuntu Desktop amd64+mac (20110427)" iso ... doing the live session test case... and i get the message "(initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system" ... anyone have any ideas
[23:38] <pace_t_zulu> the hardware is MacBook Pro 8,2 (Thunderbolt)
[23:43] <chadadavis> pace_t_zulu, is this the first ISO from natty that you've tested?
[23:43] <chadadavis> I mean, did you have this problem with the beta as well?
[23:45] <pace_t_zulu> chadadavis: first live iso test i've done with natty
[23:46] <pace_t_zulu> chadadavis: been running natty in a VM since the toolchain rolled out last fall
[23:46] <pace_t_zulu> chadadavis: plus this is new hardware... with the added twist of the +mac iso
[23:48] <chadadavis> I've been testing on a MBP6,2 but haven't had a problem starting the live CD.
[23:50] <chadadavis> Do you get the same thing with e.g. kbuntu or the alternate CD ?
[23:50] <chadadavis> pace_t_zulu : ^
[23:51] <pace_t_zulu> chadadavis: only tried natty-desktop-amd64+mac.iso so far
[23:51] <pace_t_zulu> chadadavis: you think natty-desktop-amd64.iso may be better?
[23:53] <chadadavis> pace_t_zulu, I can tell you that doesn't boot a MBP6,2. I'd be surprised if it boots your 8,2
[23:54] <chadadavis> But I don't know what changes may have been made. Maybe it's worth a try, as long as the Mac ISO is not booting for you. Did you verify the md5sum of the downloaded ISO, just to be sure.
[23:54] <pace_t_zulu> chadadavis: which one... the standard iso or the +mac iso?
[23:55] <pace_t_zulu> chadadavis: i will verify now
[23:55] <chadadavis> My MBP6,2 will only boot with the Mac ISO, it does not boot with the amd64 iso.
[23:55] <chadadavis> But, you can try it with the other ISO. Though, I'll be surprised if it boots.
[23:56] <pace_t_zulu> chadadavis: funny story... new iso just landed
[23:57] <pace_t_zulu> 20110427.1 just landed
[23:58] <chadadavis> I don't believe the Mac ISO has changed, my timestamp is the same as the previous.
[23:59] <cjwatson> jibel: can you let tiaz know when Ubuntu desktop amd64/i386 testing is complete, so that he can deal with CDN mirroring of the release images?