[16:27] <JackelopeKing> Hello. I am looking for help trying to fix my ethernet connection on a machine running Ubuntu 14.10. Ethernet was working fine until last week, now it attempts to connect endlessly and cannot establish a connection. Thus far I've swapped out the ethernet card to a TP-Link TG-3269 and replaced the cable with no luck.
[16:27] <albert_> Ecommand not found
[16:27] <albert_> EriC^^,  command not found sudo ./N*
[16:27] <EriC^^> albert_: ok maybe the script isn't working?
[16:28] <paolo_> cia
[16:28] <paolo_> salve
[16:28] <EriC^^> albert_: if you type which sudo what do you get?
[16:28] <marco_> I think that's the problem too albert_
[16:28] <EriC^^> albert_: which sudo
[16:28] <cfhowlett> !it | paolo_,
[16:28] <albert_> EriC^^, any way to apt-get my graphics driver?
[16:28] <EriC^^> !find neauvou
[16:28] <paolo_> hi boy
[16:28] <EriC^^> !find nouvea
[16:29] <albert_> EriC^^, what do you mean which sudo
[16:29] <EriC^^> !find nouveau
[16:29] <EriC^^> albert_: type which sudo
[16:29] <paolo_> salve
[16:29] <xkubic19> hi
[16:29] <albert_> EriC^^, usr/bin/sudo
[16:30] <paolo_> salve
[16:30] <albert_> EriC^^, which is hashed (/usr/bin/which)
[16:30] <albert_> sudo is hashed (/usr/bin/sudo)
[16:30] <EriC^^> albert_: try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau

[16:30] <EriC^^> albert_: i guess, i'm not sure
[16:31] <EriC^^> albert_: which nvidia card do you have?
[16:31] <cfhowlett> paolo_, non.  >>>> /join #ubuntu-it   <<<<
[16:31] <EriC^^> albert_: type lspci | grep VGA
[16:31] <albert_> EriC^^, geforce 6200 le
[16:32] <EriC^^> albert_: ok try to install that
[16:32] <EriC^^> albert_: which driver are you using right now?
[16:33] <albert_> EriC^^, Im using a legacy driver in additional drivers
[16:33] <EriC^^> albert_: ok go to additional drivers, and select another driver
[16:33] <albert_> EriC^^, when i try that i cant fit screen on monitor any more
[16:34] <albert_> EriC^^, this is only driver i found that will give the most options in settings
[16:34] <gmg85> hi?
[16:35] <gmg85> The volume icon is missing from my ubuntu 14.04 panel...what is in its place is some sort of default place holder type icon
[16:35] <gmg85> how do i get the original icon back?
[16:35] <EriC^^> albert_: ok, maybe we can get the nvidia driver to work
[16:35] <EriC^^> albert_: can you paste the commands you are running
[16:36] <EriC^^> cd to the dir, ls -l , then type sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux.......
[16:36] <EriC^^> paste it in paste.ubuntu.com
[16:37] <EriC^^> gmg85: try /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-sound/indicator-sound-service
[16:39] <gmg85> EriC^^, the indicator is there...everything is fine except for the icon...that's what is missing
[16:40] <EriC^^> gmg85: try setsid unity
[16:40] <gmg85> there's some sort of placeholder/default icon i
[16:40] <albert_> EriC^^, i posted
[16:40] <EriC^^> albert_: ok
[16:40] <EriC^^> albert_: link? :D
[16:40] <gmg85> EriC^^, thanks man...it worked!!!!!
[16:40] <nsh> Sorry, command-not-found has crashed! -- https://0bin.zertrin.org/paste/bc7710599c0f99e0c3f1f5727252bd94cf966a32#E4goJCIxtzvbnTmQjfsXYmjD5biUyN/gxxvWYNjoEt8=
[16:41] <EriC^^> gmg85: great!
[16:41] <cfhowlett> !info eog
[16:41] <cfhowlett> !info eog trusty
[16:42] <nsh> (this is a crouton chroot over chromeos, which might complicate things, but never had this issue before)
[16:43] <josePHPagoda> Hello everyone!
[16:43] <josePHPagoda> I've got a game that's done in SDL that supports mouse, but does not support touch screen
[16:43] <josePHPagoda> I have a touch screen monitor
[16:43] <josePHPagoda> is there a way that I can have the touchscreen actually simulate mouse clicks?
[16:43] <josePHPagoda> when I tap it?
[16:43] <EriC^^> albert_: what's the link?
[16:43] <albert_> EriC^^, http://paste.ubuntu.com/9316927/
[16:44] <EriC^^> ok
[16:44] <nsh> figured it out,  it's because i was doing: curl -sH "User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0" -L "http://graph.facebook.com/musalbas/picture?type=large" | eog -
[16:44] <EriC^^> albert_: ok, you have to use "./" after sudo
[16:44] <nsh> so the STDIN was still piped when command-not-found kicked in
[16:45] <nsh> that should probably be checked
[16:45] <EriC^^> albert_: sudo ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.29.run
[16:45] <EriC^^> albert_: the "./" is very important
[16:46] <albert_> sudo: ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.29.run: command not found
[16:46] <EriC^^> albert_: ok type chmod a+x NVIDIA-Linux-x86-260.19.29.run
[16:47] <albert_> EriC^^, ok
[16:47] <EriC^^> try the sudo command
[16:48] <albert_> EriC^^, a step closer
[16:48] <albert_> EriC^^, it failed but started
[16:48] <EriC^^> what did it say?
[16:48] <albert_> EriC^^, i appear to be runnbing an x server please exit x server
[16:49] <EriC^^> albert_: no problem!
[16:49] <EriC^^> albert_: sudo service lightdm stop
[16:49] <EriC^^> type that
[16:49] <EriC^^> btw
[16:49] <EriC^^> are you
[16:49] <EriC^^> using the pc
[16:49] <EriC^^> wait,
[16:49] <unopaste> EriC^^ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:49] <nsh> unopaste (owner) lrn2NOTICE
[16:49] <albert_> EriC^^, yes im on a pc
[16:50] <EriC^^> are you using the same pc?
[16:54] <zcserei> Hello! I'm running 14.10 and after a while my keyboard just turns off without any notice. If I restart the given program, the keyboard is working again. What should I do? This often ends up very annoying.
[16:54] <dinosaur_> Let's say I want to compile apache2 exactly as it is compiled in Ubuntu for apache2-mpm-event. How do I do that?
[16:56] <albert_> EriC^^, im back lol that didnt got to well
[16:56] <EriC^^> albert_: yeah i tried to warn you in pm as well
[16:56] <EriC^^> albert_: no problem :D
[16:56] <EriC^^> albert_: do you have another pc you can talk from?
[16:57] <albert_> EriC^^, well it killed my gui i got to terminal and ran the sudo ./N command and it failed because /lib / blah blah was not configured ?
[16:57] <EriC^^> albert_: hmm
[16:57] <EriC^^> type sudo apt-get install irssi
[16:57] <EriC^^> then press ctrl+alt+f1, you can switch back to the gui with alt+f7
[16:58] <EriC^^> type irssi in the terminal, then type /server irc.freenode.net 8001
[16:58] <EriC^^> then /join #ubuntu
[16:59] <albert_> EriC^^, ok i think i used to do this in gentoo
[17:00] <albert__> EriC^^: ??
[17:01] <EriC^^> yes
[17:01] <EriC^^> ok great
[17:01] <EriC^^> now you can use alt+ctrl+f2 to get a different terminal
[17:02] <EriC^^> albert__: kill the gui
[17:03] <EriC^^> and run the script
[17:03] <EriC^^> install pastebinit
[17:03] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:03] <albert__> EriC^^: im here
[17:04] <EriC^^> then run sudo ./NVIDIA.... > ~/NVIDIA.log 2>&1
[17:04] <EriC^^> then pastebinit ~/NVIDIA.log
[17:04] <albert__> EriC^^: hold on how do i get terminal up
[17:04] <hikenboot> hi I have used gparted to shrink a lvm volume in an extended partition. It worked fine. I have rebooted into the ubuntu live cd after this operation and am attempting to resize the extended partition that contains the shrunk lvm volume. gparted doesnt give me the option to shrink it..how do i shrink it
[17:05] <EriC^^> albert__: use ctrl+alt+f1-f6 for terminals, alt+f7 for the gui
[17:05] <EriC^^> albert__: put irssi on a terminal, and go to the gui and run sudo service lightdm stop
[17:05] <EriC^^> albert__: pastebinit uploads stuff to paste.ubuntu.com and gives you the link
[17:08] <albert__> EriC^^: i got the same running an x server eroor
[17:08] <EriC^^> albert__: did you stop lightdm?
[17:09] <EriC^^> alt+f7 should be blank
[17:09] <Silenced> is anyone using irssi ?
[17:09] <cfhowlett> Silenced, are you taking a poll?
[17:09] <albert__> EriC^^: i typed stop lightdm
[17:10] <ruukasu> I had a cron job that was working for a while, and suddenly stopped working. cron is running as root
[17:10] <EriC^^> albert__: type sudo service lightdm stop
[17:10] <Silenced> nope . got a doubt
[17:10] <EriC^^> albert__: ok i guess it worked :D
[17:10] <Silenced> cfhowlett: i got a doubt with that buddy
[17:11] <EriC^^> albert__: type sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[17:11] <albert__> EriC^^: i did that
[17:11] <EriC^^> ok
[17:11] <cfhowlett> Silenced, literal answer to your question is "yes.  some people use irssi."
 Check your logs for the error and see what it says?
[17:21] <albert__> EriC^^: i think i got it but now im stuck in terminal with END
[17:21] <EriC^^> albert__: press q
[17:21] <belgianguy> Lurchy: but you can install a server on your local system and then test it with your localhost
[17:21] <albert__> EriC^^: ok
[17:21] <albert__> EriC^^: now how do i get that info to pastebin
[17:22] <EriC^^> albert__: pastebinit ~/NVIDIA.log
[17:23] <Sonderblade> what version of linux did ubuntu 14.04 originally ship with?
[17:23] <albert__> EriC^^: think this is it pgv20BXq
[17:23] <Lurchy> belgianguy: thats what I am trying to figure out....I keep getting a database timeout error when I have 30+ uers on my site (a typical class I teach)  I cant get any help from Tech support....I am frustrated and want to reinstall...create a local instance at the house...then mirror it to my website
[17:23] <EriC^^> Sonderblade: check the manifest
[17:23] <Sonderblade> EriC^^: where is that?
[17:24] <EriC^^> releases.ubuntu.com/trusty
[17:24] <belgianguy> Lurchy: maybe best take this to #ubuntu-offtopic, there we can talk about it if you like
[17:24] <belgianguy> as this is the main Ubuntu support channel
[17:24] <EriC^^> albert__: it says the paste doesn't exist
[17:25] <rajvi> Hi Guys. Could anyone tell me what's the most common, easiest & safest practice to add startup scripts?
[17:25] <albert__> EriC^^: when nvidia install fails it says log is in /var/log/Nvidia-installer.log
[17:25] <cfhowlett> rajvi, sounds like a #ubuntu-server question
[17:25] <EriC^^> albert__: ok, try pastebinit /var/log/Nvidia-installer.log
[17:26] <rajvi> Not really. I need to know how to add scripts . Eg: Tomcat Startup script
[17:27] <albert__> EriC^^: 7gF3zwrS
[17:27] <daftykins> rajvi: apache tomcat, more server talk, yep server channel.
[17:27] <albert__> why is it so hard to get something to work argg i havent even goto my wireless network card yet
[17:27] <rajvi> Alright alright :)  Good Bye Guys
[17:28] <ODot> Whats the best way to remotely access my vps desktop
[17:28] <ODot> i noticed vnc has a password limit seems very insecure
[17:28] <EriC^^> albert__: it says the paste doesn't exist
[17:28] <belgianguy> ODot: SSH?
[17:28] <ODot> i need gui
[17:28] <cfhowlett> albert, make another paste         fpaste.org
[17:28] <EriC^^> albert__: it's http://paste.ubuntu.com/7gF3zwrS
[17:28] <EriC^^> ?
[17:28] <albert__> EriC^^: why does it give me an adres then
[17:29] <EriC^^> cfhowlett: he has no gui right now
[17:29] <albert__> EriC^^: no
[17:29] <cfhowlett> EriC^^, ahhh, OK
[17:29] <EriC^^> nvidia needs it to be killed for the script to run
[17:29] <EriC^^> albert__: there's another pastebin but it's hell
[17:29] <albert__> EriC^^: www.pastebin.com/7gF3zwrS
[17:29] <EriC^^> albert__: cat /var/log/Nvidia-installer.log | curl -F 'f:1=<-' http://ix.io
[17:29] <EriC^^> ok
[17:30] <EriC^^> it worked :D
[17:30] <albert__> EriC^^: great lol
[17:31] <EriC^^> albert__: i think you need to install the kernel headers
[17:31] <EriC^^> albert__: type uname -r
[17:32] <albert__> Zerant: says generic
[17:32] <albert__> EriC^^: oops says generic
[17:32] <EriC^^> what does it say before that?
[17:33] <ODot> is there any other way to access to gui desktop than vnc?
[17:33] <albert__> 3.13.0-41-generic
[17:33] <albert__> EriC^^: 3.13.0-41-generic
[17:33] <EriC^^> 41 are you sure?
[17:33] <EriC^^> albert__: you have 14.04.1 right?
[17:33] <albert__> EriC^^: yes
[17:34] <albert__> EriC^^: 3.13.0-41-generic
[17:34] <EriC^^> !info linux-image-generic
[17:34] <EriC^^> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[17:34] <ubnew> cfhowlett : sorry I didn't saw your reply ,  http://fpaste.org/155325/68889141/
[17:34] <EriC^^> albert__: did you custom install it or something?
[17:35] <EriC^^> albert__: 14.04 is at -40
[17:35] <Isaacs__> #join pinguy
[17:35] <cfhowlett> ubnew, is there any chance you could just ... oh, I don't know ... upgrade the gpu to a more modern version?  :)
[17:36] <albert__> EriC^^: im lost
[17:36] <helpme> hi there
[17:37] <albert__> EriC^^: no its zorin normal  install
[17:37] <helpme> i was here yesterday and I still cannot connect to internet. I am now using another computer
[17:37] <Guest37162> http://paste.ubuntu.com/9317621/ << these are the results for lspci and lshw -C network
[17:38] <Guest37162> audio doesnt work either,cannot some applications dont work, cannot save any edited document or file
[17:38] <ubnew> cfhowlett : 8.960 is old ? http://fpaste.org/155326/36907514/
[17:38] <EriC^^> albert__: sorry im back was getting some snacks
[17:38] <Guest37162> this is on a xubuntu 14.10 64 bits
[17:38] <albert__> EriC^^: luck you..
[17:39] <cfhowlett> ubnew, unless I've confused you with someone else (possible), isn't this a 2006 gpu?
[17:39] <EriC^^> albert__: lol
[17:39] <albert__> EriC^^: how do install kernel things it was asking for
[17:39] <EriC^^> albert__: ill wait for you to get some :P
[17:39] <albert__> EriC^^: just did
[17:39] <ubnew> cfhowlett : It's an integrated or build in GPU X1200
[17:40] <EriC^^> albert__: well, i don't know much about zorin
[17:40] <EriC^^> albert__: the kernel headers in the ubuntu repos are for -40
[17:40] <cfhowlett> ubnew, right - legacy stufff.
[17:40] <albert__> EriC^^: its the same as i heard
[17:40] <EriC^^> albert__: you could install the -40 kernel and headers
[17:40] <cfhowlett> ubnew, just a thought ...
[17:40] <albert__> EriC^^: how ?
[17:40] <EriC^^> albert__: it's based on it i guess, but it's different
[17:41] <EriC^^> albert__: type sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.13.0-40-generic
[17:41] <EriC^^> and sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.13.0-40-generic
[17:41] <albert__> EriC^^: but i have 41 correct ?
[17:41] <EriC^^> albert__: then sudo reboot, and hold shift to get grub
[17:42] <EriC^^> albert__: yeah, you can boot into it from grub
[17:43] <belgianguy> my recycl bin dialog states it's 'preparing to remove 4.2365.852 files' and that counter keeps increasing
[17:43] <belgianguy> what can I do to repair the recycle bin?
[17:43] <ubnew> cfhowlett : yep , guess it's a legacy ,  I just though it will install well , no luck. Have to upgrade somehow but on this old pc , even I upgraded I may not run fully. Any suggestion whether to get a nvidia or ati without a 6pin extra  power ?
[17:44] <albert__> EriC^^: said those packages where no longer requires
[17:44] <EriC^^> albert__: are they installed now?
[17:44] <cfhowlett> ubnew, nvidia seems to be much more linux-friendly than amd.  If you live in the USA --- Fry's Electronics is the place!
[17:45] <EriC^^> type dpkg -l | grep linux-image.*40
[17:45] <albert__> EriC^^: i dont know it just didnt d/l anything
[17:45] <albert__> seems to say i have the newest
[17:46] <Paddy_NI> This might sound a little lazy but... I'm downstairs away from my PC and I am connected to it via juicessh. Now is there any simple way of determining whether or not my PC is connected to a VPN or not?
[17:46] <EriC^^> albert__: try the dpkg command and see if it shows up
[17:46] <Paddy_NI> Eventually I would like to be able to connect/disconnect the VPN using command-line
[17:47] <l2ksolkov> t
[17:47] <albert__> EriC^^: it shows <IP_ADDRESS> in red
[17:48] <turtleding> hello, whats the recommend way to permenent export enviroment variables _when using zsh_? .xsession & .xsessionrc doesnt work
[17:48] <bekks> albert__: The color is irrelevant, basically.
[17:48] <ubnew> cfhowlett : nah , not at USA , I just worry nvidia giving much headache installing driver on ubuntu .
[17:48] <EriC^^> albert__: ok, try dpkg -l | grep linux-headers.*40
[17:48] <EriC^^> turtleding: maybe add them to ~/.profile
[17:49] <turtleding> EriC^^: this works also with zsh?
[17:49] <albert__> EriC^^: says there at 40 also
[17:49] <EriC^^> albert__: ok great
[17:49] <EriC^^> sudo reboot and hold shift and select the -40 kernel
[17:50] <EriC^^> turtleding: no idea
[17:50] <turtleding> EriC^^: anyway, i will try it^^
[17:50] <T-Sourcemaker> is there a good linux scanner which I can buy?
[17:51] <T-Sourcemaker> I bought the Canon LIDE 210 yesterday, but it's a crappy quality
[17:51] <ubnew> cfhowlett : either way thanks for the help :) got to go , cya
[17:51] <bekks> T-Sourcemaker: Because...?
[17:51] <T-Sourcemaker> bekks: for document scanning
[17:51] <cfhowlett> ubnew, happy2try  best of luck
[17:51] <bekks> T-Sourcemaker: And why is it "bad quality"?
[17:52] <EriC^^> turtleding: do you want it system-wide?
[17:52] <ubnew> cfhowlett : thanks :) sleep early :)
[17:52] <OerHeks> T-Sourcemaker, any Hp or Epson work great OOTB
[17:52] <EriC^^> turtleding: seems that zsh uses /etc/profile then uses ~/.zprofile
[17:52] <T-Sourcemaker> bekks: there are many customer reviews on amazon... telling the same
[17:52] <albert_> EriC^^, ok i booted under 40
[17:52] <iwan2dualboot> Hi. I am wanting to dual boot my Android Pendo Pad, with ubuntu. Any help will be much appreciated.
[17:52] <EriC^^> albert_: ok, sudo service lightdm stop
[17:53] <T-Sourcemaker> bekks: on every scan... there are gray lines...
[17:53] <EriC^^> then cd to the dir and sudo ./NVIDIA...
[17:53] <cfhowlett> !touch | iwan2dualboot
[17:53] <turtleding> EriC^^: oh, i had forgotten to read zsh manpage sry.. I would prefer system wide
[17:53] <EriC^^> turtleding: add it to /etc/profile
[17:54] <iwan2dualboot> cfhowlett: Box says pendo pad 7.
[17:55] <albert__> EriC^^: sudo ?
[17:55] <turtleding> EriC^^: thx again^^
[17:55] <iwan2dualboot> ubottu:  Will go check the link. thanks.
[17:55] <EriC^^> albert__: kill lightdm first
[17:56] <albert__> EriC^^: i cant see anythinng now
[17:56] <albert_> EriC^^, i cant see anythinng now
[17:56] <EriC^^> albert_: ?
[17:56] <albert__> EriC^^: graphics didnt kill right i guess
[17:56] <albert_> EriC^^, graphics didnt kill right i guess
[17:56] <albert_> EriC^^, graphics didnt kill right i guess
[17:56] <DJones> albert_: Can you remove one of your clones
[17:58] <iwan2dualboot> aahhh, ok. seems in need ubuntu touch. thanks again.
[17:59] <albert_> EriC^^: that was crazy
[18:00] <EriC^^> what happened?
[18:01] <albert_> EriC^^: i typed sudo lightdm stop and its light graphics card was still wanting to work
[18:01] <albert_> had to reboot
[18:02] <EriC^^> that's not the right command
[18:02] <EriC^^> albert_: sudo service lightdm stop
[18:04] <albert__> EriC^^: sudo lightdm ?
[18:04] <albert__> have to right down lol
[18:09] <EriC^^> albert: ill brb
[18:10] <Geo> Is there a way using apt-get or dpkg to determine where files were installed?
[18:10] <trism> Geo: dpkg -L package_name;
[18:11] <albert_> EriC^^: ok i got it i loged in via terminal so i dont lose commands when i had you in gui
[18:11] <EriC^^> albert: ok
[18:11] <EriC^^> albert_: try sudo service lightdm stop
[18:12] <albert_> EriC^^: great
[18:12] <Geo> trism, thanks. Running that, it looks like dpkg doesnt know about stuff installed via apt-get. So, revised question- how can i figure out where something was installed via apt-get? :)
[18:13] <albert_> EriC^^: ok done
[18:13] <trism> Geo: no, that will work for every installed package, if you wanted to query other things available but not installed, install apt-file and use: apt-file list package_name
[18:14] <Geo> hrm.
[18:14] <Geo> dpkg -L tcl-dev said no such package
[18:14] <Geo> but it is installed and accessible by apt-get
[18:14] <Geo> what would I be doing wrong?
[18:14] <trism> Geo: what is: apt-cache policy tcl-dev;
[18:14] <albert_> EriC^^: it says something about kernel not being configured
[18:15] <Geo> uh
[18:15] <Geo> I dont' want to say.
[18:15] <Geo> :)
[18:15] <Geo> sigh.
[18:15] <Geo> thanks
[18:16] <OerHeks> !rootirc | root_
[18:17] <albert_> I lost my help :(
[18:17] <root_> ubottu : Do you mean i can get hacked ?
[18:18] <HappyNewYear13> any quic command to know the last time i logged in?
[18:18] <bekks> root_: There is just no reason for using root for IRC.
[18:18] <bekks> HappyNewYear13: "last".
[18:18] <OerHeks> uptime can tell
[18:18] <EriC^^> albert_: did you boot into -40?
[18:18] <albert_> EriC^^: yes
[18:18] <EriC^^> albert_: type uname -r
[18:18] <root_> bekks ; I am using the irssi to connect
[18:19] <cfhowlett> root_, you should never use root as a regular state.
[18:19] <bekks> root_: Dont use root.
[18:19] <albert_> EriC^^: says something like kernel has not been configured >
[18:19] <HappyNewYear13> any quic command to know time i turned on my ubuntu pc?
[18:19] <albert_> EriC^^: 40 generic
[18:19] <EriC^^> albert_: does it say for which kernel?
[18:19] <albert_> EriC^^: 40
[18:20] <HappyNewYear13> bekks, oh last is  good one
[18:20] <OerHeks> HappyNewYear13, wouldn't that be the same?
[18:20] <root_> ok am leaving
[18:20] <HappyNewYear13> OerHeks, "last" is good
[18:21] <albert_> EriC^^: source files in lib/modules not configured ?
[18:21] <EriC^^> albert_: ok
[18:21] <HappyNewYear13> OerHeks, i like uptime too. thank u
[18:22] <cloudgeek> How I can pass command line username and password for automated installtion of pertino cleint , Ubuntu:14.04
[18:23] <albert_> EriC^^: any idea what that means ?
[18:24] <bekks> cloudgeek: That depends on the pertino client - whatever it is, does it have its own support community?
[18:24] <OerHeks> cloudgeek, not, i guess. that is why linux is safe.
[18:25] <cloudgeek> bekks: it doesn't have
[18:25] <cloudgeek> bekks: I know how to for Mysql but I don't how do for it, After apt-get install pertino-client , it ask me for username and password
[18:25] <bekks> cloudgeek: So whats that "pertino client" ar all?
[18:25] <cloudgeek> than I need to enter manually
[18:25] <EriC^^> albert_: maybe it can't find the headers, no idea
[18:25] <bekks> *at all
[18:26] <cloudgeek> bekks: https://support.pertino.com/hc/en-us/articles/201116845-Pertino-Linux-installation-and-configuration-guide
[18:26] <EriC^^> albert_: try find /lib/modules -name "version.h"
[18:26] <cloudgeek> bekks:I don't want to go with chef, I am using Docker for it.
[18:26] <bekks> cloudgeek: It has its own support resources: https://support.pertino.com/hc/en-us
[18:27] <DJ_Unibob> hmmm, this is an odd issue/appcrash.  "nvidia-331 331.89-0ubuntu5: nvidia-331 kernel module failed to build"  Looking on launchpad for a resolution.  Any ideas on what might cause it, other than perhaps a broken pipe?
[18:30] <albert__> anyone know how to install nvidia drivers ?
[18:31] <DJ_Unibob> You would need to use the "Additional Drivers" program, since they are proprietary (sp?)
[18:31] <albert__> DJ_Unibob, they dont work properly
[18:31] <cloudgeek> bekks: okay
[18:32] <DJ_Unibob> Have you tried all the listed drivers?  I had to use the one listed as "tested" with mine.
[18:32] <albert__> DJ_Unibob, yes i  have i tried to d/l driver from nvidia but cant get it installed
[18:33] <DJ_Unibob> Though I did just have a crash related to it, but my system still appears to be stable.
[18:33] <grek> in ubuntu exist equivalent sudo nfsd checkexports ? i have same error https://github.com/puphpet/puphpet/issues/240
[18:33] <DJ_Unibob> hmmm, well, outside of that program, I'm not sure what to do.  I've only recently got back to linux after a few year hiatus, so I'm more or less learning all over again.
[18:33] <albert__> DJ_Unibob, i have one that runs ok but when i try and play agame at full screen system crashes
[18:34] <grek> i have installed nfs but nfsd unknown command
[18:34] <grek> i have error - sudo nfsd checkexports
[18:34] <DJ_Unibob> I'm sure someone here will be of more help albert__
[18:35] <OerHeks> albert what do you expect of that nvidia 6200 ?
[18:35] <EriC^^> albert__: what's the latest kernel available?
[18:35] <OerHeks> it is old, not all 3d stuff will work flawlessly
[18:35] <albert__> EriC^^, 41
[18:35] <EriC^^> type apt-cache search linux-image
[18:36] <EriC^^> albert__: do you see 41 there?
[18:36] <albert__> im running 40 to be safe
[18:36] <albert__> EriC^^, this is to hard guess ill go back to stupid windows
[18:36] <EriC^^> albert__: is it there?
[18:36] <EriC^^> albert__: it's easy hold on
[18:37] <EriC^^> albert__: is -41 there?
[18:37] <albert__> EriC^^, is it where ?
[18:37] <EriC^^> in apt-cache search linux-image
[18:38] <albert__> EriC^^, there are alot form 30 to 41
[18:38] <EriC^^> use shift+pageup to scroll
[18:38] <EriC^^> ok, great
[18:38] <EriC^^> so you have 41 in the repos
[18:38] <DJ_Unibob> Actually, I just noticed I'm still running 331.89 and don't see any updates, I'm going to have to see why nothing new is showing up.
[18:38] <EriC^^> type sudo apt-get install linux-generic
[18:39] <EriC^^> albert__: it should install the headers of 41
[18:39] <EriC^^> or whatever is the latest kernel
[18:39] <albert__> EriC^^, Unpacking linux-generic (<IP_ADDRESS>.48
[18:39] <albert__> a lot of that happened
[18:39] <EriC^^> ok, great
[18:40] <EriC^^> when it's done
[18:40] <albert__> EriC^^, only took a sec
[18:40] <EriC^^> try to boot into the new kernel
[18:40] <EriC^^> maybe it'll work since the headers are installed
[18:40] <albert__> EriC^^, brb
[18:41] <DJ_Unibob> brb
[18:42] <OerHeks> so all this effort to get more options in nvidia settings with that old nvidia 6200 card? ... in zorin :-D
[18:43] <EriC^^> that's ike saying football is all this effort is to put a ball with some air in it in a net
[18:43] <EriC^^> *like
[18:44] <Vladimiri> is it possible to install ubuntu on a usb drive and have the whole system on it, and whener I want I can just boot it up on pretty much any computer?
[18:44] <EriC^^> ( missing the point )
[18:44] <albert_> EriC^^, im back
[18:44] <EriC^^> albert_: ok, sudo service lightdm stop
[18:45] <EriC^^> ok
[18:45] <albert_> EriC^^: ok killed gui
[18:45] <EriC^^> ok
[18:46] <EriC^^> try to run the sudo command
[18:46] <EriC^^> if it doesn't work i have an idea
[18:46] <techwolf12_> /[art
[18:46] <albert_> EriC^^: same thing about kernel
[18:46] <EriC^^> albert_: ok, no problem
[18:47] <EriC^^> try cd /lib/modules
[18:47] <albert_> EriC^^: says most likley /lib files in kernel not configred
[18:47] <EriC^^> then cd 3.13.0-41-generic
[18:48] <DrManhattan> How do I enable antialiasing on the desktop cube?
[18:48] <albert_> EriC^^: ok im there
[18:48] <EriC^^> ok cd build/include/linux
[18:48] <ReScO> http://www.linux.com/community/forums/drivers/nvidia-graphic-cards-850m-on-asus-n750jk-with-ubuntu-1410/20236 i'm having the same issue, dual gpu intel/nvidia gtx 850m, how can i enable usage of the 850m?
[18:49] <bekks> ReScO: BY using the Optimus-enabled driver, nvidia-prime
[18:49] <ReScO> bekks: didn't work
[18:49] <albert_> EriC^^: no file or  directory
[18:49] <bekks> ReScO: Why not?
[18:49] <ReScO> only getting a login screen, after logging in, blank screen, no unity
[18:50] <EriC^^> albert_: this is odd, i just tried to install the headers and i don't have a version.h file
[18:50] <albert_> EriC^^: thats what mine says
[18:50] <DrManhattan> How do I enable antialiasing on the desktop cube?
[18:51] <DrManhattan> intel onboard graphics
[18:51] <bekks> ReScO: What do the logs say?
[18:52] <ReScO> bekks: no screen found
[18:52] <albert_> Well guess i just cant play any games :(
[18:52] <EriC^^> albert_: i found something on google
[18:53] <albert_> EriC^^: LIke >
[18:53] <EriC^^> albert_: it looks like the driver doesn't support the kernel
[18:53] <EriC^^> if you start the gui check it out im reading
[18:53] <EriC^^> sudo service lightdm restart
[18:53] <albert_> EriC^^: ok
[18:53] <EriC^^> https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/707443/unable-to-install-nvidia-driver-96-43-23-in-xubuntu-13-10-the-kernel-header-file-does-not-exist-/
[18:54] <EriC^^> when you start the gui ill paste it
[18:54] <albert__> EriC^^, so im screwed i take it
[18:55] <EriC^^> albert__: no i think you need to download a different driver from nvidia or there seems to be a patch or something for newer kernels
[18:55] <EriC^^> https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/707443/unable-to-install-nvidia-driver-96-43-23-in-xubuntu-13-10-the-kernel-header-file-does-not-exist-/
[18:56] <P1RATEZ> DrManhattan: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=65975 and http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=136664 indicates it increases cpu load
[18:56] <DrManhattan> ?\
[18:56] <DrManhattan> P1RATEZ, I don't care if it increases CPU load, I just want it to look better
[18:56] <DrManhattan> no point in having a CPU and not using it
[18:57] <ReScO> bekks: i've had to reinstall ubuntu twice already because of these driver issues...
[18:57] <c0ffee_> I happened to mess up some files in /etc/X11/app-defaults/ is there a way to rewrite them from clean distro, etc ?
[18:58] <albert__> EriC^^, thats the error i was getting
[19:02] <albert__> EriC^^, how do install the patch
[19:03] <EriC^^> albert__: im searching for a different driver
[19:05] <ReScO> i'm having a lot of issues here, i want to be able to use my stronger GPU for WoW
[19:05] <albert__> EriC^^, patch failed in the same way any how
[19:06] <EriC^^> albert__: the patch is for an older nvidia i think
[19:06] <albert__> ok
[19:06] <albert__> EriC^^, my nvidia is old lol
[19:06] <EriC^^> albert__: you need a patch for 260.19.29
[19:07] <EriC^^> or to change the nvidia driver to one that has a patch
[19:08] <albert__> i found that one on nvidia website
[19:10] <ReScO> anyone?
[19:10] <EriC^^> albert_: try this http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/51453
[19:11] <EriC^^> albert_: this seems newer http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/59827
[19:12] <EriC^^> albert__: did you get my links?
[19:12] <ReScO> Goddammit.
[19:12] <ReScO> Stupid fucking dual gpu
[19:12] <de333> hi
[19:12] <EriC^^> ReScO: try to disable the other one in the bios
[19:12] <ReScO> Can't
[19:13] <ReScO> Asus N750JK
[19:13] <EriC^^> hi de333
[19:13] <ReScO> Intel Haswell + Nvidia GTX 850M
[19:13] <de333> how r u?
[19:13] <EriC^^> de333: great, you?
[19:14] <de333> not bad
[19:14] <albert__> EriC^^, no
[19:14] <EriC^^> albert__: http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/59827
[19:14] <EriC^^> try that driver
[19:14] <albert__> EriC^^, i got where you said i need at patched driver
[19:15] <de333> just got ableton running on hackintosh, so quite happy
[19:15] <albert__> EriC^^, think im on a 32 bit system
[19:15] <EriC^^> ReScO: do you have an nvidia control panel?
[19:15] <de333> off usb
[19:15] <de333> boot
[19:15] <ReScO> EriC^^: no...?
[19:16] <EriC^^> ReScO: type nvidia<tab>
[19:16] <ReScO> albert__: run uname -a
[19:16] <ReScO> EriC^^: only nvidia-detector
[19:17] <DrManhattan> ok How do I enable antialiasing with intel onboard graphics
[19:17] <albert__> 14 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[19:17] <albert__> thats what i got
[19:17] <albert__> EriC^^, that the right one ?
[19:17] <EriC^^> nope
[19:17] <EriC^^> hold on
[19:19] <EriC^^> albert__: use this http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/59826
[19:19] <albert__> EriC^^, thanks hope it owrks
[19:20] <ReScO> EriC^^: http://i.imgur.com/nVamqzz.png
[19:21] <DrManhattan> anyone? Bueller? Bueller? How do I enable Antialiasing on intel onboard graphics?
[19:21] <EriC^^> ReScO: try to type nvidia in the dash
[19:22] <ReScO> EriC^^: only nvidia-detect
[19:22] <EriC^^> ah, i think you have to install it
[19:22] <ReScO> no shit
[19:22] <EriC^^> not sure
[19:22] <EriC^^> :D
[19:22] <ReScO> but if i install nvidia-prime, i can't login
[19:22] <EriC^^> !find nvidia
[19:22] <ReScO> i see the greeter, i enter my password, but alas no desktop whatsoever
[19:22] <EriC^^> maybe it's nvidia-settings?
[19:23] <EriC^^> try sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[19:23] <jess44> is there an off topic channel here?
[19:23]  * ReScO uses the low orbit facepalm cannon
[19:23] <bubbasaures> jess44, #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:23] <EriC^^> ReScO: you mean you're not using the nvidia driver?
[19:23]  * DrManhattan bursts into tears
[19:23] <DrManhattan> How do I enable Antialiasing on intel onboard graphics?
[19:23] <ReScO> DrManhattan: compizconfig
[19:24] <amjam> Hi all. Does anyone here have wifi working on a Dell Inspiron laptop?
[19:24] <ReScO> EriC^^: No, i'm not, it breaks my system
[19:24] <EriC^^> ReScO: oh ok
[19:24] <ReScO> amjam: lspci | grep -i wlan
[19:24] <ReScO> what's the output?
[19:24] <DrManhattan> ReScO, I can't find it in the settings manager
[19:24] <ReScO> DrManhattan: did you install it?
[19:25] <amjam> ReScO: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY (rev 01)
[19:25] <DrManhattan> ReScO, yes, along with the extras package
[19:25] <ReScO> press the windows key or super, then type compiz
[19:26] <ReScO> amjam:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[19:27] <ReScO> !find firmware-b43-installer
[19:27] <DrManhattan> ReScO, I have the compizconfig settings manager open already, I just can't find where AA is enabled
[19:27] <ReScO> amjam: you need firmware-b43-installer
[19:27] <amjam> ReScO: is that something that can be installed prior or during installation?
[19:27] <ReScO> run "sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer
[19:27] <amjam> I haven't yet installed ubuntu yet, the .iso is downloading right now, though and i'm about to put it on a USB Key.
[19:27] <ReScO> amjam: post install
[19:28] <amjam> ReScO: got it.
[19:28] <amjam> thanks bud.
[19:28] <ReScO> amjam: if it doesn't work, send me a PM
[19:28] <EriC^^> amjam: it should be in the additional drivers, installed by itself
[19:28] <derrzzaa> Are there are cool third party disk usage utils out there?
[19:28] <ReScO> DrManhattan: i'll look into it, gimme a sec
[19:28] <derrzzaa> du -h isn't all that
[19:28] <amjam> EriC^^: sorry, what do you mean by "installed by itself"? Like, as an add-on during installation or something post-installation?
[19:28] <ReScO> amjam: in the packages on the disc, iirc
[19:29] <EriC^^> amjam: it's found on the liveusb, when you finish the installation go to the dash and type drivers
[19:29] <EriC^^> amjam: it should be there, and already selected i think
[19:29] <DrManhattan> ReScO, thank you.  I have firefox, chrome, irc and transmission running.
[19:51] <mohsen-rashidi> What's the package name?
[19:51] <EriC^^> albert: if you still feel like giving it a shot there's this site that has some stuff http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10/install-nvidia-geforce-driver-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-using-ppa/
[19:51] <k1l_> !info openjdk-8-jdk
[19:51] <albert> EriC^^: i cant use gui now :(
[19:51] <albert> EriC^^: how can i restore it
[19:52] <EriC^^> albert: 1 sec
[19:52] <k1l_> mohsen-rashidi: try the search of your favourit package tool or packages.ubuntu.com
[19:52] <mohsen-rashidi> Thank you
[19:52] <Guest15076> and can someone explain this when in live mode i get my 1024x768 res but when installed only 640x480
[19:53] <k1l_> Guest15076: install a proper driver?
[19:54] <Guest15076> tried addiontal driver nothing, but lappy 7yr old
[19:54] <bekks> Guest15076: Which driver did you try?
[19:54] <mjayk> hayhay
[19:55] <Guest15076> whatever what was on the ubuntu version
[19:55] <k1l_> Guest15076: what video card is it then?
[19:55] <EriC^^> albert: try mv ~/.config/monitors.xml ~/.config/monitors.xml.backup
[19:55] <bekks> Guest15076: Can you name the driver please? Is it nouveau, nvidia, fglxr, radeon or whatever?
[19:55] <Guest15076> the graphics card is a sis
[19:55] <EriC^^> albert: then sudo service lightdm restart
[19:56] <k1l_> Guest15076: :/  well, i dont have had success with that cards. good luck then
[19:56] <bekks> Guest15076: Oh my. Good luck with that.
[19:57] <Guest15076> the graphics card is a sis. its on motherboard, yeh ive heard its a pain
[19:58] <Guest15076> on unbuntu live mode i get the 1024x768 res when installed i dont
[19:59] <Guest15076> i had mint 16 running on it 1024 res i updated to mint 17 and lost it back to 640x480
[19:59] <Patrick032986> hello I was wondering if it was possible to put ubuntu on my phone I have a LG Optimus Fuel?
[19:59] <OerHeks> SiS was always a nasty videocard, bad supported :-(
[19:59] <lain_> Guest15076: what is your problem with SIS gpu?
[20:00] <k1l_> Patrick032986: you want the desktop or the ubuntu-touch?
[20:00] <bekks> Guest15076: So you are using Mint currentlx?
[20:00] <bekks> *currently
[20:00] <Patrick032986> touch
[20:00] <albert> EriC^^: no luck cant even right click on screen
[20:00] <k1l_> !touch | Patrick032986 see this special channel
[20:01] <EriC^^> albert: xrandr still doesn't work?
[20:01] <EriC^^> albert: maybe you need to reboot
[20:01] <Guest15076> xp remains on it still, had mint 17 lost my res got rid back to ubuntu, then updated and back to low res
[20:01] <Guest15076> if that makes sense
[20:01] <albert> size 800x600 not found
[20:02] <EriC^^> albert: try only xrandr
[20:02] <bekks> Guest15076: So are you using Ubuntu or Mint, currently?
[20:02] <pepe__> d
[20:02] <pepe__> d
[20:02] <pepe__> d
[20:02] <pepe__> d
[20:02] <pepe__> d
[20:02] <albert> EriC^^: says i can only do 680x400
[20:02] <pepe__> d
[20:02] <pepe__> d
[20:02] <unopaste> pepe__ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[20:02] <Guest15076> ubuntu its installed but after login page goes blank, so im in live unbuntu mode
[20:03] <EriC^^> albert: maximum is 640?
[20:03] <albert> EriC^^: yes
[20:03] <EriC^^> or it's the only one listed?
[20:03] <EriC^^> ok
[20:03] <albert> EriC^^: only one listed
[20:03] <EriC^^> what does it say to the right?
[20:03] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: further explain. so you lost you resolution on mint so you went back to Ubuntu and sudo update (or upgrade?) and lost your resolution again?
[20:04] <EriC^^> albert: which resolution do you use usually?
[20:04] <albert> EriC^^: 73.0*
[20:04] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: what kind of hardware are you using or model pc/lappy?
[20:04] <nedal> Hi, I need help in a very basic and simple C program with gcc. could somebody help please
[20:04] <albert> EriC^^: 1920x something i think
[20:05] <Guest15076> 173 ghx celeron 1 gig ram
[20:05] <EriC^^> ok try gtf 1920 1080 60
[20:05] <EriC^^> albert: then take what's written in the term and copy it to xrandr --newmode "1920x1080" 172.80  1920 2040 2248 2576  1080 1081 1084 1118  -HSync +Vsync
[20:05] <nedal> ...
[20:05] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: holy shit thats so old school shit lol
[20:05] <trism> nedal: what is the problem?
[20:06] <albert> EriC^^: ok ?
[20:06] <Guest15076> its 7r old lappy mate
[20:06] <albert> EriC^^:  a bunch of numbers
[20:06] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: so im assuming that when you fresh install, everything works right? just when you update or upgrade is soes to shit and your resolution goes away right?
[20:06] <EriC^^> albert: type the gtf command, and then copy what it gives you so you end up with xrandr --newmode "19..." <gtf stuff here>
[20:06] <k1l_> atlas-hive: no need for all that "shit" in here.
[20:06] <Guest15076> yes atlas spot on
[20:07] <atlas-hive> k1l_: sorry
[20:07] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: are you just sudo updating?
[20:07] <Finetundra> Guest15076, perhaps try a lighter distro than base ubuntu?
[20:07] <nedal> I want to do a table with aleatory  numbers but it doesn t work... I know that I have a problem in my program but don t know where
[20:07] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: you can try #!
[20:08] <nedal> trism_
[20:08] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: thats a pretty nice light weight distro
[20:08] <Guest15076> in this live mode i get the res
[20:08] <amjam> Hi all. How do I install firmware-b43-installer?
[20:08] <amjam> it's a driver I need for my wifi card.
[20:08] <albert> EriC^^: failed to parse as a new mode
[20:09] <OerHeks> !bcm | amjam check this page
[20:09] <Guest15076> so im guesing 1 gig ram not good for ubuntu
[20:09] <trism> nedal: you may want to ask in ##c
[20:10] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: so your hardware works obviously, maybe updating is using a newer package that is not agreeing with you hardware. do you know your exact gpu name/model?
[20:10] <nedal> trism how to join it ?
[20:10] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: well which ubuntu are you using?
[20:10] <Goethe2> Guest15076, did you try lubuntu?
[20:10] <Guest15076> intel celeron 173ghz
[20:11] <bekks> Guest15076: Live mode uses the same amount of RAM ;)
[20:11] <trism> nedal: /join ##c
[20:11] <EriC^^> albert: nvidia-settings doesn't work at all?
[20:11] <nedal> trism thanks
[20:11] <Guest15076> inter celeron 1.73ghz 1 gig ram,
[20:12] <albert> EriC^^: at 640x480 but i cant do anything cant see anything on the sides
[20:12] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: so intergrated gpu from celeron proc?
[20:12] <Guest15076> u lost me bit atlas but if u asking graphics card is on motheboard
[20:13] <albert> EriC^^: failed to parse 1920x1080_60.0 as a mode specification
[20:13] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: so your gpu is intergraded into the motherboard right? its not a add on card?
[20:13] <Guest15076> yeah on motherboard grahpics card,
[20:14] <knockknock> Greetings
[20:14] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: what motherboard are you using?
[20:14] <Guest15076> aint got a glue atlas
[20:15] <Saleem> how to give allow access to disk partition to other users in ubuntu 12.04
[20:15] <EriC^^> albert: maybe try to press alt+f7 after launching nvidia-settings
[20:15] <EriC^^> albert: you can move the window around, alt+f8 to resize it
[20:15] <EriC^^> albert: you might be able to set the resolution
[20:15] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: well if you can your model motherboard, you can find out the actual model of the gpu and research which driver you need to find
[20:16] <knockknock> I imagine that this may be the wrong channel for this discussion, but does anyone know if it possible to access freenode via tor, I have tried setting up for ages
[20:16] <knockknock> I feel stukc
[20:16] <knockknock> *stuck
[20:16] <nisstyre> knockknock: you need SASL
[20:16] <nisstyre> also #freenode is the right channel
[20:16] <k1l_> knockknock: see #freenode for help with freenode
[20:16] <knockknock> how do I set up SASL whilst going through tor?
[20:16] <knockknock> thx
[20:16] <Saleem> how to allow users to add folder in disk partitions in ubuntu 12.04
[20:16] <Guest15076> interl celron 5301.73 ghz
[20:17] <bekks> Guest15076: Thats the CPU, not the motherboard :)
[20:17] <daftykins> 5 terahertz would be nice
[20:18] <Saleem> can anyone answer this issue
[20:18] <Guest15076> whats the requirements for ubuntu
[20:18] <EriC^^> albert: try sudo nvidia-xconfig --mode=1280x1024
[20:19] <samthewildone> !rarcrack
[20:19] <atlas-hive> Guest15076: thats just the speed of the proc. model number please
[20:19] <bekks> samthewildone: Wrong network.
[20:20] <samthewildone> bekks, its in repos
[20:20] <cloudgeek> ubuntu 12.04, I using expect script for command line arugment for installtion of package, it is not working , http://paste.ubuntu.com/9319599/
[20:20] <Finetundra> Saleem, in my experience i believe the correct course would be to open the user and groups list , go to advanced options and add the privileges there. thats my best guess
[20:21] <ei3> Hey all.
[20:22] <Finetundra> Guest15076, again, i suggest you go with something lighter like lubuntu or xubuntu. however i will provide a link to a system requirements page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[20:22] <Guest15076> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements on that page near top says 700 proceser 512 ram
[20:23] <Guest15076> thanks for link. at the top of that page says 700 processer 512 ram
[20:24] <xangua> Guest15076: yes, minimum, not recommended
[20:24] <John_John_> i have xubuntu and i really cant chabge the default web broweser to google chrome!!!!
[20:24] <Guest15076> yeah min so thought 1 gig ram 1.73 thingy be ok
[20:25] <daftykins> Guest15076: anything single core is absolutely terrible today
[20:25] <Guest15076> yeah its single core
[20:25] <xangua> Guest15076: and a dual core processor, if you go for unity desktop
[20:25] <paul__> Good evening boys and girls
[20:26] <paul__> I'm having an issue on Xubuntu, I wonder if someone can help?
[20:26] <paul__> Here is the issue:
[20:26] <paul__> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curlftpfs/+bug/1267749
[20:26] <John_John_> me too lol
[20:26] <EriC^^> John_John_: chrome > settings > default browser on the bottom
[20:26] <John_John_> i did that
[20:27] <John_John_> no good
[20:27] <Guest15076> Ubuntu Desktop Edition      700 MHz processor (about Intel Celeron or better)     512 MiB RAM (system memory) . so my lappy dont meet them sorry to be a div
[20:27] <John_John_> every time i open it asks to make default
[20:27] <Finetundra> Guest15076, like xangua said those are not the recommended only the minimum. i have myself tried something similar to what you are. i found that xubuntu worked better for an older machine like yours
[20:27] <DJones> paul__: 13.10 isn't a supported release anymore, you are aware of that?
[20:27] <paul__> Ah yes, well I'm not actually on 13.10
[20:27] <EriC^^> John_John_: say yes and always make it default
[20:27] <John_John_> i go to preffered apps and select it and after restart is unselected again
[20:27] <paul__> But that seems to be the same issue
[20:28] <DJones> paul__: ok, fair enough
[20:28] <paul__> I'm on the latest Xubuntu, but I think it's the same problem.
[20:28] <paul__> It seems to be a problem with libcurl-gnutls
[20:28] <paul__> Does anyone know how I can downgrade that package?
[20:28] <Guest15076> it run mint 16 ok and resoultion was ok and then 16  was out date to 17 and then went to pieces. lost res everything went massive
[20:28] <Finetundra> Guest15076, but there is also lubuntu and probably many more lightweight distros that will probably work better for you than base ubuntu
[20:29] <paul__> I've tried: sudo apt-get install libcurl3-gnutls=7.29.0
[20:29] <EriC^^> albert: try sudo nvidia-xconfig --mode=1280x1024
[20:29] <paul__> Xubuntu is very lightweight
[20:30] <Guest15076> xubuntu is it lightweight coz its got nothing like libreoffice and stuff mint 16 had it all run ok till 17 came out
[20:30] <albert> EriC^^:
[20:31] <paul__> No, it's leightweight because it uses the KDE desktop
[20:31] <albert> EriC^^: unable to locate x config file. new file writtin to /etc/x11
[20:31] <EriC^^> albert: great
[20:31] <EriC^^> albert: try to reboot
[20:32] <paul__> But Xubuntu uses XFCE which is even more lightweight
[20:32] <albert> EriC^^: i just rebooted
[20:32] <userings> KDE is light?
[20:32] <paul__> Compared to Unity ;)
[20:32] <EriC^^> albert: after running the nvidia-xconfig ?
[20:32] <albert> ok brb
[20:32] <EriC^^> ok
[20:33] <John_John_> can i install another desktop alongside xubuntu ?
[20:33] <Guest15076> aplolgizes ro everyone just new to linux and finding my way
[20:33] <EriC^^> John_John_: yes
[20:33] <paul__> Yes you can install loads of desktops
[20:33] <paul__> at the command line type
[20:33] <paul__> sudo apt-get install xfce4-desktop
[20:33] <paul__> And then logout
[20:33] <John_John_> is there any good non buggy stable desktop for 14.04 around ?
[20:34] <paul__> Then on the login screen find the option to select XFCE
[20:34] <Goethe2> John_John_: gnome shell?
[20:34] <John_John_> i dont know you tell me
[20:34] <Guest15076> theres 2 xubuntu
[20:34] <John_John_> i prefer gnome s
[20:34] <John_John_> yes
[20:34] <beltorak> hi all; is there a way (by creating a custom package or hook or some exotic hack) that I can replace a package file with one of my own whenever there's an update? I want to replace /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kscreenlocker_greet with a shell script that runs xscreensaver
[20:35] <John_John_> i have xubuntu now
[20:35] <paul__> xubuntu is awesome
[20:35] <Guest15076> how you liking xubuntu john john
[20:35] <Goethe2> John_John_, : currently trying unity, but i think i will switch back to gnome3. Gnome3  i really like how it changes my workflow. More able to concentrate at the job at hand.
[20:36] <John_John_> i have xubuntu now and i like it
[20:36] <John_John_> but this bug annoys me
[20:36] <John_John_> i want to make default browser chrome
[20:36] <John_John_> an di cant
[20:36] <atlas-hive>  /join programming
[20:37] <Guest15076> can i download linux xbuntu and use a program to get it onto usb dongle
[20:38] <tombtc> can I change my ubuntu 14.04 to xubuntu without loosing any data?
[20:38] <Finetundra> Guest15076, yes. you'll probably like UNetbootin. and you probably want the 32bit(i386) xubuntu
[20:38] <daftykins> Guest15076: yes, what OS are you on now?
[20:38] <tombtc> or is that just a xfce install?
[20:38] <daftykins> i second the choice of 32-bit
[20:38] <k1l_> tombtc: intsall the xubuntu-desktop package
[20:39] <paul__> If you want xubuntu on a USB key you might as well look at Puppy Linux
[20:39] <Guest15076> ubuntu live mode coz ubuntu normal wont boot past login screen
[20:39] <tombtc> k1l_:  thanks
[20:39] <k1l_> Guest15076: i suggest Lubuntu for old and slow hardware
[20:40] <tombtc> xubuntu=xfce, Lubuntu=?
[20:40] <paul__> LXDE
[20:40] <k1l_> !lubuntu
[20:40] <tombtc> any with fluxbox?
[20:40] <Guest15076> think i chuck the lappy out the window and get new one,  but my pc is ok
[20:40] <paul__> You can install any of these desktops and switch between them
[20:40] <paul__> You do'nt have to insall everything
[20:40] <albert> EriC^^: no luck :(
[20:40] <tombtc> cool
[20:41] <EriC^^> John_John_: check the workaround https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/902661
[20:42] <Guest15076> got u netbootin says need application to open it
[20:43] <EriC^^> albert: you could uninstall the driver
[20:43] <dino> Hello guys
[20:43] <EriC^^> albert: and try the other driver from that ppa website
[20:43] <EriC^^> xorg-edgers
[20:43] <Guest70568> if i installed ubuntu next to the windows, how do i get data from the windows ?
[20:43] <albert> EriC^^: how do i uninstall it been trying
[20:43] <EriC^^> albert: it's still using the 640 resolution?
[20:43] <Guest15076> what application do i need to open unetbootin
[20:44] <EriC^^> albert: sudo ./NVIDIA-.... --uninstall
[20:44] <albert> EriC^^: i have no choice
[20:44] <daftykins> Guest15076: if you're on ubuntu now, just use 'dd' to put the ISO onto a flash drive. it's simple.
[20:44] <Guest15076> whats dd
[20:45] <EriC^^> diskdump
[20:45] <albert> EriC^^: Now is old one back
[20:45] <albert> EriC^^: its uninstalled
[20:45] <EriC^^> ok
[20:45] <EriC^^> albert: maybe we should have uninstalled the old one?
[20:45] <Guest15076> where find a dump
[20:45] <k1l_> Guest15076: use "usb disk creator"
[20:45] <albert> EriC^^: makes some sence
[20:46] <k1l_> Guest15076: or see this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/59551/how-to-burn-a-iso-to-a-usb-device
[20:46] <daftykins> Guest15076: a program. open a terminal with your flash drive plugged in, run "sudo fdisk -l" to locate what /dev/sdX name of your flash drive - then run "sudo dd if=/path/to/ubuntu.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=2M"
[20:46] <albert> EriC^^: now if i reboot i have no driver ?
[20:46] <daftykins> ugh the inaccurate use of 'burn' within a flash drive context, how irritatingly amateurish
[20:46] <EriC^^> albert: type sudo lshw -C video | grep driver
[20:46] <Guest15076> i can do it on windows 7, but lost on here
[20:47] <k1l_> Guest15076: on ubuntu?
[20:47] <albert> EriC^^: bunch of i/o errors
[20:48] <Guest15076> on ubuntu live mode now yeah
[20:48] <John_John_> EriC^^,  thanks :)))
[20:48] <k1l_> Guest15076: you cant make a new live system on the usb you are just using
[20:48] <John_John_> i solved it :)
[20:49] <John_John_> what font do you use for development ?
[20:49] <EriC^^> John_John_: great! :)
[20:49] <John_John_> thanks again :)
[20:49] <daftykins> Guest15076: well i did try to ask what your host OS is for making up this flash drive but you didn't respond... so which is it?
[20:49] <EriC^^> albert: try dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[20:49] <Guest15076> want to download xubuntu while in ubuntu live mode
[20:49] <daftykins> Guest15076: no that's not wise
[20:50] <k1l_> Guest15076: i still suggest lubuntu for your old machine
[20:50] <albert> EriC^^: ok
[20:50] <John_John_> any fonts that have good quality in xubuntu ? like consolas or monaco ?
[20:50] <albert> EriC^^: shows a driver and settings from ubuntu i believw
[20:51] <bubbasaures> John_John_, All these desktops have the same repo access tons of fonts
[20:51] <EriC^^> John_John_: no idea
[20:51] <EriC^^> albert: does the nvidia driver show up?
[20:51] <EriC^^> with a "ii" at the start?
[20:52] <albert> EriC^^: yes
[20:52] <EriC^^> albert: try sudo apt-get purge nvidia-*
[20:53] <nathan_> how do you create a text file called nathans file? it needs to have a space between nathans and file
[20:53] <albert> EriC^^: its removing DKMS modules
[20:53] <EriC^^> nathan_: touch nathans\ file
[20:54] <albert> EriC^^: all done
[20:54] <nathan_> cheers
[20:54] <EriC^^> albert: ok
[20:54] <Guest15076> if i upgraded my ram to say 2gig would it run ubuntu
[20:54] <Guest15076> but with a sis graphics card my res still be poor
[20:54] <EriC^^> albert: we can try the xorg-edgers ppa
[20:55] <albert> EriC^^: sure lets try i guess
[20:55] <EriC^^> ok
[20:55] <daftykins> Guest15076: honestly i would throw that thing away. life is too short.
[20:55] <EriC^^> type sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[20:55] <Guest15076> the sis thing yeah not the best
[20:57] <Guest15076> does ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu need security
[20:57] <k1l_> Guest15076: sis was never supported that well when it was new. and its not getting better since most of that hardware is "old" now and not used that much anymore. with some intel, nvidia cards you would have more luck now
[20:57] <daftykins> Guest15076: no the whole thing is terrible. SiS graphics is the worst, yes
[20:57] <k1l_> Guest15076: lubuntu is made for old and slow hardware. give it a try
[20:57] <Guest15076> my pc got nvidia in it
[20:58] <albert> EriC^^: ok thats done
[20:58] <plasmasnake> i'm having some pretty annoying issues with my dual-monitor setup, trying to get ubuntu to treat my right-hand side screen as the primary... Xorg always sets the botton left corner of the left-hand screen to position 0x0, and it causes all sorts of annoyances like Ubuntu always putting the desktop icons on my left screen. the most i've been able to achieve is to get the unity panel to appear on my right
[20:58] <plasmasnake> screen
[20:58] <EriC^^> ok, type sudo apt-get update
[20:58] <Guest15076> does these ubuntu, xbuntu, lubuntu need security
[20:58] <k1l_> Guest15076: rephrase please
[20:59] <plasmasnake> does anybody know how i would go about submitting a bug report for that? Xorg doesn't seem to accept negative offsets (to allow me to set the corner of the right-hand screen to 0x0), so i'm not sure which ubuntu package i would report the bug for (lightdm? ubuntu-desktop?)
[20:59] <albert> EriC^^: done
[20:59] <Guest15076> do these ubuntu, xbuntu, lubuntu need security like anti virus and firewall programs
[20:59] <EriC^^> ok type sudo apt-get install nvidia-current nvidia-settings
[21:00] <k1l_> Guest15076: no. not like windows.
[21:00] <k1l_> !antivirus
[21:00] <Guest15076> thank u, what bout firewalls
[21:01] <k1l_> Guest15076: dont need that. its more important what programs you run.
[21:01] <Guest15076> dont run wine
[21:01] <albert> EriC^^: it failed
[21:01] <EriC^^> albert: what'd it say?
[21:02] <bittyx-desktop> If I want to put Ubuntu on a USB drive (for installation purposes), which filesystem should the drive use? FAT32?
[21:02] <k1l_> bittyx-desktop: that doesnt matter
[21:03] <Guest15076> thanks to everyone
[21:03] <albert> EriC^^: something about wine and some packages have  not been created
[21:03] <kokut> Hello, anyone knows if there is a way to use an ipod as a flash drive?
[21:03] <k1l_> bittyx-desktop: you need to "burn" it onto a usb. that will erase the filesystem anyway
[21:03] <EriC^^> albert: try sudo apt-get -f install
[21:03] <daftykins> kokut: for just the odd file, or?
[21:03] <daftykins> which model?
[21:03] <k1l_> albert: please pastebin the errors
[21:03] <Guest15076> trying figure out how to get it to usb now
[21:04] <kokut> daftykins: i need to find a way to trick another device into "thinking" it is a USB flash drive
[21:04] <daftykins> kokut: what? why?
[21:04] <kokut> daftykins: ipod nano 6th gen
[21:04] <bittyx-desktop> k1l_: Ah, okay, thanks.
[21:04] <kokut> daftykins: its something to plug to an old TV it only accepts USB flash drives and i dont have a flash drive but i do have an old ipod
[21:05] <albert> EriC^^: it said  0 upgraded 26 not updated
[21:05] <daftykins> kokut: would it not have been easier to plug it in and find out, than ask? :)
[21:05] <Guest15076> cant i open u netbootin in live mode
[21:05] <kokut> daftykins: what you mean
[21:05] <k1l_> Guest15076: you dont need unetbootin
[21:05] <EriC^^> albert: try sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:05] <daftykins> Guest15076: for the third and final time, what is your host OS? don't use a live session
[21:05] <k1l_> Guest15076: do you have a 2nd usb drive?
[21:05] <albert> i typed pastebin again how do kill it
[21:05] <EriC^^> ctrl+c
[21:06] <Guest15076> xp and ubuntu
[21:06] <k1l_> albert: ctrl+c
[21:06] <Guest15076> ok ok daft
 Guest15076: do you have a 2nd usb drive?
[21:06] <daftykins> Guest15076: so download the ISO onto windows and use universal USB installer from pendrivelinux.com
[21:06] <k1l_> !paste | albert
[21:06] <Guest15076> yeah 2nd drive but to small for linux download
[21:07] <k1l_> Guest15076: how small?
[21:07] <EriC^^> how small?
[21:07] <albert> EriC^^: ok looks like updating some video stuff
[21:07] <EriC^^> sounds good
[21:07] <Guest15076> 1 gig pen drive got ages ago
[21:07] <EriC^^> that's plenty
[21:07] <bekks> 1G is more than enough for an Ubuntu ISO.
[21:08] <nathan_> how do i create a file name with a space in between them
[21:08] <EriC^^> nathan_: you just asked :D
[21:08] <agent_white> DONT :D
[21:08] <k1l_> nathan_: we already answered that
[21:08] <daftykins> nathan_: that was a bad idea the other day when you asked and a bad idea now
[21:08] <Guest15076> xbuntu 14.04 or 10
[21:08] <EriC^^> nathan_: touch file\ name , or touch "file name"
[21:08] <bubbasaures> heh, vivid daily is 1.2 gigs
[21:08] <agent_white> Don't be _that guy_ who puts spaced in file names.
[21:08] <albert> EriC^^: ok thats done bunch of video stuff
[21:09] <EriC^^> albert: ok, try to install the nvidia-current again
[21:09] <kokut> Is there a way to use ipod nano as USB flash drive?
[21:09] <daftykins> kokut: just plug it in and find out :P
[21:09] <daftykins> or google for whether that model supports USB mass storage mode
[21:10] <albert> EriC^^: said could not install possble unstable package
[21:10] <albert> and other reaseons
[21:10] <k1l_> albert: put it into pastebin
[21:10] <albert> k1l_: how ?
[21:10] <k1l_> albert: mark all text, copy it, open the webpage paste.ubuntu.com paste it in there and send it. show the new link here
[21:11] <Guest15076> what link is it for xbuntu got a torrent and mirror site
[21:11] <albert> k1l_: im in terminal cant copy pastetr
[21:11] <daftykins> Guest15076: links are on their website.
[21:12] <albert> k1l_: whats the command line
[21:12] <daftykins> command | pastebinit
[21:12] <k1l_> use pastebinit then
[21:13] <Guest15076> im on the mirror downlod xbuntu but saying 2 types
[21:13] <EriC^^> albert: sudo apt-get install nvidia-current | pastebinit
[21:14] <albert> pastebin.com/5AjK526G
[21:15] <Guest15076> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/trusty/release/.  is that just repeated twice
[21:15] <JustEnki> is this a place where I would ask about socat?
[21:15] <kokut> Hello, is there a way to make an ipod act exactly as an USB flash drive? I need another device to recognize it as such but it's not working (it works with a normal usb flash drive tho)
[21:15] <k1l_> albert: "pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[21:16] <Ilhami> hello
[21:16] <Ilhami> the most lightweight DE for Ubuntu?
[21:16] <bekks> kokut: No, there isnt.
[21:16] <daftykins> kokut: i already told you, either look it up for USB mass storage support or plug it in to check.
[21:16] <Ilhami> xfce ?
[21:16] <Guest15076> its ok ok worked it out
[21:16] <Ilhami> or KDE?
[21:16] <NegativeFlare> Ilhami: LXDE
[21:16] <k1l_> !lubuntu | Ilhami
[21:16] <Ilhami> LXDE ok
[21:16] <Ilhami> thanks
[21:16] <Ilhami> sudo apt-get install lxde?
[21:17] <NegativeFlare> Ilhami: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[21:17] <Ilhami> ok and should I remove unity ? or will it just overwrite?
[21:17] <NegativeFlare> Don't remove anything until after you get into lxde
[21:17] <albert> www.pastebin.com/nXjmpMKu
[21:17] <JustEnki> is asking about socat too general a linux question for this channel?
[21:18] <Ilhami>  NegativeFlare aaah now I remember.. :) sorry
[21:18] <Ilhami> I dont have to remove it
[21:18] <JustEnki> I'm running ubuntu which is why I came here
[21:18] <daftykins> JustEnki: never heard of it but better to find a channel for whatever context that's in, or a channel for it itself if one exists
[21:19] <IdleOne> JustEnki: you can try, might also try #ubuntu-server. My guess is ##linux will have more people familiar with socat
[21:20] <albert> EriC^^: any ideas?
[21:20] <JustEnki> okay thanks
[21:20] <EriC^^> did you try the nvidia-331?
[21:20] <albert> EriC^^: how? i cant goto web
[21:21] <EriC^^> sudo apt-get install nvidia-331
[21:22] <Ilhami> you sure that's the right one?
[21:22] <Ilhami> be careful I'd say.
[21:22] <albert> EriC^^: you never mentioned that one
[21:22] <Ilhami> that driver
[21:22] <EriC^^> Ilhami: ?
[21:23] <albert> Ilhami: ?
[21:23] <Ilhami> that package... is the correct one for him?
[21:23] <EriC^^> beats me
[21:23] <EriC^^> lol :D
[21:23] <Ilhami> drivers are pretty critical. jus' saying :D
[21:23] <EriC^^> Ilhami: why are you spooking us out?
[21:23] <albert> EriC^^: ouch
[21:23] <EriC^^> albert: i've no idea when it comes to nvidia drivers :D
[21:23] <EriC^^> i saw that nvidia-current was 304
[21:24] <EriC^^> and the one from nvidia.com you tried earlier is older than it
[21:24] <albert> EriC^^: if we could get back the way it was would be good
[21:24] <EriC^^> i think the 331 is the latest
[21:24] <EriC^^> and it should support your card
[21:24] <EriC^^> hold on
[21:25] <albert> EriC^^: or i will just reinstall lol
[21:25] <albert> k
[21:25] <Ilhami> what is your graphics card?
[21:26] <albert> Ilhami: geforce 6200 le
[21:27] <Ilhami> albert, do you know nvidia has a website with all drivers for your graphics card ?
[21:27] <albert> Ilhami: duh non of them worked
[21:27] <Ilhami> http://askubuntu.com/questions/82100/how-do-i-install-the-nvidia-driver-for-a-geforce-6200
[21:27] <Ilhami> did you try this?
[21:28] <albert> EriC^^: its done looked like it worked
[21:28] <albert> should i reboot
[21:28] <EriC^^> yeah
[21:28] <Ilhami> always reboot after driver update or install
[21:31] <Ilhami> sudo apt-get autoremove --purge unity unity-common unity-services unity-lens-\* unity-scope-\* unity-webapps-\* gnome-control-center-unity hud libunity-core-6\* libunity-misc4 libunity-webapps\* appmenu-gtk appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-qt\* overlay-scrollbar\* activity-log-manager-control-center firefox-globalmenu thunderbird-globalmenu libufe-xidgetter0 xul-ext-unity xul-ext-webaccounts webaccounts-extension-common xul-ext-websites-integration
[21:31] <Ilhami> gnome-control-center gnome-session
[21:31] <Ilhami> I will use this to remove Unity, ok?
[21:31] <Ilhami> NegativeFlare
[21:33] <NegativeFlare> Ilhami: hm?
[21:33] <Ilhami> I did it :D
[21:33] <NegativeFlare> ohhh ok
[21:33] <Ilhami> its running
[21:33] <kolossen> How do i check if I have blueooth?
[21:33] <Ilhami> kolossen, you could check your laptop specs :D
[21:33] <Ilhami> lol
[21:34] <Ilhami> but there are probably commands for it as well
[21:34] <k1l_> kolossen: "lspci" and see if its there
[21:34] <Ilhami> sudo lspci
[21:34] <Ilhami> try this
[21:35] <k1l_> Ilhami: stop
[21:35] <Ilhami> ?
[21:35] <Ilhami> stop what?
[21:35] <k1l_> Ilhami: dont tell users to use sudo where its not needed at all.
[21:35] <Ilhami> will it kill him?
[21:36] <k1l_> Ilhami: you spoil the whole idea of sudo if you tell users to use it all the time. yes that will get the users into trouble
[21:36] <Ilhami> whatever
[21:37] <Ilhami> kolossen, you could also try "dmesg | grep Blue"
[21:37] <astyle> yo
[21:40] <kokut> Hello, is there a way to make an ipod act exactly as an USB flash drive? I need another device to recognize it as such but it's not working (it works with a normal usb flash drive tho)
[21:40] <kolossen> hcitool scan
[21:40] <kolossen> Device is not available: No such device
[21:41] <kolossen> Ilhami, that worked, a lot of bt stuff show up
[21:42] <bubbasaures> kokut, All you can do is wipe it and or format it to what the tv will recognize if your lucky, and not sure how ubuntu is related.
[21:42] <kokut> bubbasaures: bc im in ubuntu and i dont know how to do what you just said?
[21:43] <bubbasaures> kokut, That's good neither do we really, that's an apple device, and your in way left field, buy a usb there cheap.
[21:44] <bubbasaures> I would try ##linux if you're registered with freenode
[21:44] <kokut> bubbasaures: why would i buy a usb if i could find a use for this ipods?
[21:44] <kokut> bubbasaures: also i dont want to spend any money
[21:46] <bubbasaures> That's a straw man argument err and really makes no sense. The question is what is your time worth, seems the money generated in time rather than trying to chase a whim is more logical.
[21:46] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB kokut try this
[21:48] <kokut> bubbasaures: yea i know the question is very technical and i would probably have to write some drivers myself but its fun and it could aslo be very useful for some people
[21:49] <kokut> bubbasaures: so far i know it only works with regular USB flash drives
[21:49] <bubbasaures> kokut, Sure, try the link, It is not as if I want you to fail. ;)
[21:50] <bazhang> http://www.wikihow.com/Use-an-iPod-As-a-Flash-Drive kokut
[21:51] <kolossen> cany someone help me with bluetooth
[21:51] <kolossen> how do i turn it on/off
[21:51] <kolossen> how can i scan for devices?
[21:52] <kokut> bazhang: that is very interesting, gotta try that on itunes, gonna boot into windows, brb :D
[21:52] <k1l_> kolossen: which ubuntu are you on?
[21:52] <gerced> @kolossen g
[21:52] <bubbasaures> bazhang, heh, in the ipods menu.
[21:52] <k1l_> kolossen: please show the output of "rfkill list" in a apstebin
[21:53] <kolossen> k1l: how do i check my ubuntu? i think 14.04
[21:53] <k1l_> kolossen: "lsb_release -d"
[21:54] <linuxd> how to log in root account?
[21:54] <k1l_> linuxd: why would you need that?
[21:54] <VanceX> linuxd: Use sudo
[21:54] <kolossen> http://lpaste.net/115388
[21:55] <linuxd> i'm tired from having to input password
[21:55] <kolossen> k1l_, 14.04.1 LTS
[21:55] <k1l_> kolossen: unity?
[21:55] <Ilhami> linuxed then go into root
[21:55] <kolossen> k1l_, not sure. just downloaded the most obvious dowbnload from the homepage.
[21:55] <k1l_> linuxd: you can start a root-shell with sudo -i
[21:56] <kolossen> (linux noob as you have guessed already)
[21:56] <k1l_> kolossen: is there a starter bar at the left?
[21:56] <linuxd> k1l_: ok,thanx
[21:57] <k1l_> kolossen: http://imgur.com/a/9iaLJ  see this to say which desktop yours is
[22:00] <Bleezy209> Erik
[22:01] <Daghdha> What is this Ubuntu One accountbullshit? I can't install free software without clicking a 'Buy' button and joing ubuntu one cult?
[22:02] <Bleezy209> Ki1
[22:02] <k1l_> Daghdha: with that attitude i dont think it motivates others to help you
[22:02] <OerHeks> Daghdha, LoLz, how would you 'buy' without?
[22:02] <bazhang> !ubuntuone
[22:03] <___pabl_o> !help
[22:03] <bazhang> Daghdha, it's dead, lose the attitude
[22:03] <___pabl_o> !patience
[22:03] <Daghdha> Uhm
[22:03] <Daghdha> dead?
[22:03] <bazhang> read above
[22:03] <OerHeks> you would still need it to buy a subscription/software, bazhang
[22:03] <kolossen> k1l_, Unity then.
[22:04] <Daghdha> I have to login with an aubuntu one account for Ubuntu SOftware Center
[22:04] <Daghdha> Trying to install Plex
[22:04] <k1l_> kolossen: so you see a bluetooth symbol in the system tray?
[22:04] <Bleezy209> Erik^^ it's Albert so didn't work bud
[22:05] <k1l_> Daghdha: if plex did choose to not maintaine a package in the usual repos but just with the software center , so what is the issue?
[22:05] <kolossen> k1l_, system tray? you mean upper right corner? i dont see it anyhow
[22:05] <Daghdha> The issue is i have to register a ubuntu one account to install something from the ubuntu software center
[22:06] <ikonia> ubuntu one is dead
[22:06] <k1l_> kolossen: hmm, so is there some issue in dmesg?
[22:06] <ikonia> so log a bug against that software package
[22:06] <k1l_> ubuntu one is not dead. just some services from ubuntu one are off. like the filesync
[22:06] <redwdc> quit
[22:07] <kolossen> http://lpaste.net/115388
[22:07] <kolossen> k1l_, ^
[22:07] <k1l_> Daghdha: again: talk to the maintainer if he did only make the package support softwarecenter if you dont like that. but just flaming in here will not help anyway
[22:07] <Daghdha> But ikonia i get a ;login of create account' when i try to install plex
[22:07] <ikonia> Daghdha: plex does not come from ubuntu
[22:07] <Daghdha> SO you are saying the package is in ubuntu one?
[22:07] <ikonia> Daghdha: no, I'm saying plex is not provided by ubuntu
[22:08] <ikonia> Daghdha: so that package is not coming from ubuntu - it's coming from a 3rd party repo
[22:08] <Daghdha> The promt says: Ybuntu software center -> login with Ubuntu one
[22:08] <kolossen> this has to be done:
[22:08] <kolossen> sudo apt-get install bluez python-gobject python-dbus
[22:08] <kolossen> ?
[22:08] <k1l_> Daghdha: listen: plex did only allow to provide a package through software center (maybe the want to have money later on or for a pro-app). so stop making a drama now!
[22:08] <ikonia> hang on, am I thinking of plesk
[22:08] <ikonia> ahh the plex package is from plex
[22:08] <Daghdha> plex is a media server
[22:08] <ikonia> it's not ubuntu
[22:09] <ikonia> so basically it's been added as a repo so you can see it in software center
[22:09] <ikonia> you'll need to log a bug to plex
[22:09] <k1l_> Daghdha: and yes: you need an account to install some software there. so do it or stop flaming
[22:09] <kolossen> k1l_, http://lpaste.net/115388
[22:09] <ikonia> Daghdha: there are notes of others coplaining on the plex forum, it's the plex team not removing this
[22:09] <Daghdha> Okay, but i did find plex in Ubuntu Software Center. Does that mean not all software in there is going trough ubuntu?
[22:09] <kolossen> dmesg|tail shows some errors
[22:09] <ikonia> Daghdha: no, software center is just a package manager to display your repos
[22:09] <ikonia> Daghdha: you can add any repos you want
[22:10] <k1l_> kolossen: dmesg tail is about sdb, which is a usb device?
[22:10] <Daghdha> Damn, i thought it was secure stuff from ubuntu only :(
[22:10] <ikonia> niope
[22:10] <ikonia> nope
[22:10] <kolossen> ok
[22:11] <kolossen> k1l_, i don have much idea here. can't i just get the status of the bluetooth easily?
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[22:11] <unopaste> black_fridQt you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[22:11] <ikonia> sorry for the slow response
[22:11] <k1l_> kolossen: hmm. bluetooth looks good. are you sure you dont have the bluetooth symbol in systray? it looks like ">B"
[22:11] <Daghdha> Well, someone is having fun.
[22:11] <reisio> ikonia: I forgive you
[22:12] <kolossen> systray==where volume, time etc?
[22:12] <kolossen> no there is no >B
[22:12] <k1l_> yes.
[22:14] <wpd> I'm having some trouble with my apt-get sources... starting with "Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main armhf Packages"
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[22:14] <unopaste> aohsx you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[22:14] <Daghdha> ok thanks for link in IM :D i will install tomorrow.  Trolls be flooding. Good day.
[22:16] <Bleezy209> Erik^^ hi
[22:16] <k1l_> wpd: are you on arm hardware?
[22:19] <wpd> k1l_: Sorry, I fell off of IRC... I am on x86_64, but recently installed (or had installed on my behalf) armhf cross development tools.
[22:19] <Bleezy209> Do i have to reinstall os to get graphics to work?
[22:23] <OerHeks> Bleezy209, sure, reinstall zorin
[22:24] <OerHeks> anyway that nvidia 6200 is not going to perform well in games, too old.
[22:24] <wpd> I'll ask again later... I have to go now.
[22:26] <Bleezy209> OreHeks in downloading ububtu
[22:28] <kolossen> k1l_, so maybe bluetooth is wokring but just not turned on, how do I turn it on?
[22:29] <Bleezy209> OreHeks on open arena
[22:39] <owen1> I 'Override software rendering list' and 'Enable WebGL' in chrome://flags but http://get.webgl.org say I don't have WebGL support. I also tried running chrome with --disable-gpu-watchdog but it doesn't help. Firefox runs WebGL just fine. I have the same issue with chromium-browser package (39.0.2171.65 Ubuntu 14.10) and also with chrome (39.0.2171.71). Any ideas?
[22:41] <malinus> Hello. when I launch the ubuntu installer. The installer itself never starts up. I can see some of the icons (volume, power etc.) and the background, but nothing else. It's 14.10. Any ideas?
[22:41] <daftykins> malinus: how far does 'Try' get?
[22:41] <malinus> daftykins: "Try"?
[22:41] <malinus> oh try
[22:41] <malinus> let me check
[22:42] <daftykins> malinus: any quirks we should know about the specification of this system? or the spec at all for that matter :>
[22:42] <malinus> daftykins: "try" seems to work just fine.
[22:43] <daftykins> excellent, give the installer a shot from there
[22:43] <malinus> daftykins: thanks. (stupid of not even thinking about that, doh)
[22:44] <daftykins> well you'd be forgiven for thinking 'install' should work just the same, if not easier from lower overhead
[22:44] <daftykins> so that's a quirky one indeed
[22:45] <malinus> daftykins: I'm installing using the integrated graphics, since the free nvidia drivers that come with the live/installer ubuntu don't support my chipset (maxwell - gtx 750ti, black screen). No idea if it has something to do with that?
[22:46] <Airbander> Hi guys how install driver or printer
[22:46] <daftykins> malinus: yeah likely nouveau would choke on that card. not from the intel though, nah. you could probably have just booted with nomodeset, no?
[22:46] <daftykins> !nomodeset
[22:47] <Airbander> brb
[22:48] <malinus> daftykins: nope. that should work, however it doesn't.
[22:48] <l0rdn1x> You guys wanna know something really funny,  I have no sound problems with my computer absolutely none, every sound application on Ubuntu 14.04 works without any problems,  well then theres this proprietary junk called Skype, and the sound does not work with it at all...lol
[22:49] <daftykins> l0rdn1x: 10.04 .deb?
[22:49] <daftykins> malinus: ah well, reverting to onboard was a good move :)
[22:49] <daftykins> (on-die technically)
[22:50] <malinus> daftykins: would you suggest that I use the drivers provided by the repository of 14.10, or get them driectly from nvidia?
[22:51] <l0rdn1x> daftykins, its the one from the repo im assuming universal since I didn't add a ppa for it.  Skype version <IP_ADDRESS>
[22:51] <daftykins> malinus: i don't think your card is supported by any repo ones, so it would either be a manual download or xorg-edgers PPA
[22:51] <daftykins> l0rdn1x: default ubuntu repos? not aware of there being one
[22:52] <malinus> okay, thanks
[22:52] <malinus> daftykins: if I knew this card would be such a pain with linux, I would never have bought it :(. hehe
[22:52] <l0rdn1x> daftykins, yeah I had to check-mark the universal repo in the package manager.
[22:52] <daftykins> malinus: i wouldn't worry, with time it'll change
[22:53] <daftykins> l0rdn1x: ah, well likely that thing is ancient and shouldn't be bothered with
[22:53] <l0rdn1x> daftykins, where can I get this working .deb ?
[22:53] <daftykins> oh i have no idea about whether it's working :)
[22:53] <l0rdn1x> ah ok
[22:53] <malinus> yeah, it's just that the chipset does so weired on-hardware authorization of drivers or some similar woodo.
[22:53] <daftykins> just skype.com
[22:53] <ikonia> malinus: that seems unlikley
[22:53] <l0rdn1x> I don't really use skype, but I have one friend that only uses skype I'm sure you know how that goes lol
[22:54] <daftykins> !amd | ikonia
[22:54] <daftykins> *sigh*
[22:54] <ikonia> ?
[22:54] <daftykins> you didn't create it yet
[22:55] <malinus> ikonia: I read it on the nouveau mailing list I think. That's why it still isn't supported, while much newer cards already are.
[22:55] <ikonia> daftykins: I've not had chance
[22:55] <daftykins> malinus: did it happen to have any talk of 9xx cards too? i've not seen anyone on here try to run one yet but it's an even newer maxwell of course
[22:57] <malinus> nope sorry, I just stumbled on it while investigating. didn't even read it in details, not that it would have help me ;P.
[22:57] <daftykins> no problem. running the install right now?
[22:57] <malinus> yeah
[22:58] <owen1> my HDMI monitor show 'cable not connected' even after i see it in xrandr and type 'xrandr --auto'. any idea?
[22:58] <daftykins> booting with it connected, or plugging it in after?
[23:03] <daftykins> owen1: ?
[23:03] <kolossen> how can i just see if bluetooth is enabled or not?
[23:03] <Langri-Sha> hey everyone! has anyone tried the systemd-services package on pre-Utopic releases?
[23:04] <luminous> hi! if I am using ubuntu 12.04 with the linux-image-generic-lts-trusty kernel, do I need to install the linux-generic-lts-raring kernel to use docker, as noted in http://docs.docker.com/installation/ubuntulinux/#ubuntu-precise-1204-lts-64-bit ?
[23:06] <daftykins> i can't think why given the raring kernel is EOL
[23:09] <owen1> daftykins: i tried both ways
[23:10] <daftykins> owen1: and what did the Xorg log look like each time?
[23:13] <kolossen> how can USB hubs have a price difference of 100 $ ?
[23:15] <daftykins> they're all horrible, horrible devices that should be left behind in the early 2000s
[23:15] <daftykins> it's a tax on you for buying one :P
[23:16] <nedal> Hi, I want to join #c channel but they say I need to be identified with the services, how can I do this ?
[23:16] <kolossen> hcitool does not give me any devices but my android is on
[23:17] <Airbander> HI guys i have canon LBP-6020 Printer and i cant find a driver for it any way to help me and thanks
[23:18] <xubuntu_> hello everyone like say thanks for earlier
[23:18] <daftykins> nedal: join #freenode and ask how to register
[23:18] <Airbander> how install my printer on ubuntu plz
[23:19] <kolossen> will USB hubs work with ubuntu even if theyb just officially support windows?
[23:19] <owen1> daftykins: i didn't know Xorg should look different. i'll save it next time it works!
[23:20] <daftykins> owen1: what, so it works sometimes and not others?
[23:20] <nedal> daftykins_ ok thanks
[23:20] <owen1> daftykins: yup. it worked twice in the last week
[23:20] <daftykins> owen1: graphics hardware? driver?
[23:21] <Airbander> how join xubuntu ?
[23:22] <owen1> daftykins: lspci -> VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b)  how to find what driver i use?
[23:23] <daftykins> owen1: pretty likely intel ;)
[23:23] <user1> hi everyone on xubuntu install do u tick download updates while install and 3rd party software
[23:23] <owen1> daftykins: btw, there is no xorg file on ubuntu anymore
[23:23] <OerHeks> Airbander, what does openprinting.org say about  canon LBP-6020 ? it isn't even listed
[23:23] <owen1> (i am on 14.10)
[23:23] <daftykins> user1: depends if you want to update during the installation, or install third party software.
[23:23] <k1l_> user1: yes
[23:23] <cynicallemon> user1: if you want to
[23:23] <daftykins> owen1: you're thinking of the wrong one. /var/log/Xorg.0.log is a log created when X runs.
[23:24] <user1> ok cool just thought may slow it down
[23:24] <Meneer_Puffy> user1: yes! It saves time actually
[23:24] <Airbander> oerheks there is no way to add it :`
[23:24] <daftykins> owen1: xorg.conf != log ;)
[23:24] <Meneer_Puffy> the initial install will be a bit slower
[23:24] <Meneer_Puffy> but you wont have to manually install any updates later
[23:24] <daftykins> though bear in mind updates during install breaks things for some :P
[23:25] <Meneer_Puffy> you can just walk away during the install, have a cup of tea and return to a freshly installed system
[23:25] <Meneer_Puffy> daftykins: I've had systems with automatic upgrades break. But never had any problems with downloading updates during instalation
[23:25] <owen1> daftykins: interesting! so how can i compare 2 states of this log? it's not a static file
[23:26] <daftykins> owen1: copy it to ~ when it doesn't work and when it does.
[23:26] <OerHeks> Airbander, i see that yours is not included, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CanonCaptDrv190
[23:26] <owen1> daftykins: ok. i'll do that and report back. thanks!
[23:26] <daftykins> np
[23:26] <user1> ok thank u
[23:26] <Airbander> thanks dude for help
[23:27] <abstrakt> howdy folks
[23:27] <user1> i had install open now its disapeared where to
[23:27] <abstrakt> user1, install for what?
[23:27] <daftykins> user1: alt+tab
[23:27] <Cervol> any knows what theme is that screenshoot?
[23:27] <Cervol> http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/Canonical-Starts-Talking-About-Convergence-and-Ubuntu-14-10-Features-437648-3.jpg
[23:27] <daftykins> abstrakt: got a question?
[23:28] <Airbander> guys any one can help me to install my printer plz ? canon LPB-6020
[23:28] <abstrakt> daftykins, I do, yes
[23:28] <Airbander> AND THANKS
[23:28] <abstrakt> what's the maximum/largest (within reason, how do define "reason" I don't exactly know) likely size that a root partition would take up
[23:28] <Airbander> NEEEEED HELP TO INSTALL THIS LBP-6020
[23:28] <luminous> daftykins: thanks, sounds like docker ought to update the docs
[23:28] <daftykins> Airbander: keep repeating and using caps and you'll be ignored.
[23:28] <ikonia> Airbander: you'll do better if you just ask for help without the silly NEEEEEEED HELP and typing in caps
[23:29] <Kazaii> Anyone here using Thinkpad Yoga? Or perhaps Yoga 3 Pro?
[23:29] <abstrakt> like if I installed all the software from the officially sanctioned repos from ubuntu (not necessarily from 3rd party PPAs)
[23:29] <ikonia> Airbander: just explain your problem clearly and calmly
[23:29] <ikonia> Airbander: if someone can help, they will
[23:29] <Airbander> lol
[23:29] <daftykins> abstrakt: but that's unlikely.
[23:29] <abstrakt> i.e. where will I strike a good balance between leaving a lot of headroom on /
[23:29] <abstrakt> and not wasting space
[23:29] <Langri-Sha> Cervol: looks like it's just a concept, not an actual theme http://thetechnotoast.deviantart.com/art/Ubuntu-Flat-UI-Concept-445281381
[23:29] <abstrakt> in terms of partition sizing
[23:29] <Airbander> they saw that when i asked they didnt nice
[23:29] <daftykins> Kazaii: doubt it. thinking of buying one?
[23:29] <Kazaii> Indeed. I had a quick hands on with the Thinkpad Yoga. It felt great.
[23:30] <ikonia> Airbander: no-one has not been nice to you
[23:30] <ikonia> Airbander: if they can help, they will
[23:30] <Airbander> ikonia :D
[23:30] <Airbander> i didnt say that
[23:30] <abstrakt> like is 50G too much for a root partition?
[23:30] <daftykins> Kazaii: the Yoga 3 Pro seems to have some design issues which cause it to thermally throttle the new intel broadwell chip, wouldn't recommend buying one until they fix it
[23:30] <abstrakt> is 10G too little?
[23:30] <Bashing-om> abstrakt: An abstract question, mine: /dev/sda1       4.7G  1.8G  2.8G  39% / ; Works well for MY use case .
[23:30] <daftykins> abstrakt: 20-40GB might be a happy medium for a desktop
[23:31] <Kazaii> daftykins: Thanks! Good to know. :)
[23:31] <abstrakt> Bashing-om, er, which partitions are which sizes on that?
[23:31] <xangua> abstrakt: 50 is ok, I have 20
[23:31] <abstrakt> all I see is 3 different gig sizes
[23:31] <Bashing-om> abstrakt: That is my '/' partition .
[23:31] <daftykins> abstrakt: size, used, free (or size, free, used) :P
[23:31] <abstrakt> ah, ok
[23:32] <abstrakt> Bashing-om, that seems a bit small, is that a server?
[23:32] <Airbander> ok guys have a good day
[23:32] <abstrakt> virtualbox seems to recommend approx a 12G entire disk size when installing a linux based virtual machine
[23:32] <abstrakt> it was either 12 or 15 I think
[23:32] <ikonia> abstrakt: it's not a blank and white question
[23:32] <ikonia> abstrakt: it really depends on your needs and how you like to work,
[23:32] <ikonia> it's personal to each person/their setup
[23:32] <ikonia> apply thought behind it, and you'll be fine
[23:33] <Bashing-om> abstrakt: It is an extension of what was a server ..Like I advise, works well for my use case .. How you use your system will be the dtermining factor of how larrgw to make '/' .
[23:33] <daftykins> but of course it's a moot query because you can always backup and change things ;)
[23:33] <luminous> what 'version' is 'trusty' ?
[23:33] <daftykins> luminous: 14.04
[23:33] <abstrakt> daftykins, can, but that takes considerable time, so I'd like to get it right this time around
[23:33] <luminous> daftykins: so if I have trusty lts kernel on 12.04, I have the kernel from 14.04 on 12.04?
[23:33] <abstrakt> I'm mostly desktop oriented
[23:34] <abstrakt> workstation, that is
[23:34] <daftykins> luminous: yes you are running the trusty HWE (hardware enablement stack)
[23:34] <daftykins> !hwe
[23:34] <daftykins> abstrakt: then plan well.
[23:34] <abstrakt> I would prefer to have headroom for lots of software install if need be, is there any way to get a calculated size for how much space a given set of packages will take up?
[23:34] <luminous> it's like a half-migration to 14.04, interesting
[23:34] <luminous> forced
[23:34] <daftykins> no it's not forced at all
[23:35] <daftykins> you can also be on 3.2.x with precise (12.04)
[23:35] <bittyx-desktop> So, I've been using Linux Mint for a couple of years now, with the main reason being Cinnamon. However, it has never occurred to me that I could use Cinnamon with Ubuntu, so after a bit of Googling, it seems that this is pretty easy to accomplish. In fact, it can be installed with a one-liner. Has anyone done this, and does everything work correctly?
[23:35] <abstrakt> I know pretty much what I'll have on there, I think the biggest space hogs are really the DEs like GNOME/KDE/Unity etc
[23:35] <ikonia> a.) LTS HWE is not forced b.) it's not a migration at all
[23:35] <bittyx-desktop> I'm having some random issues with Mint and I can't bother to research them anymore, so I'd like to switch to Ubuntu.
[23:35] <wpd_> Hi, sorry for the repeat, but I had to step away for a while...
[23:35] <wpd_> I'm having some trouble with my apt-get sources... starting with "Err http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/main armhf Packages", but "grep -r armhf /etc/apt returns nothing.
[23:35] <abstrakt> can't think of any other specific package that is likely to take up tons of space
[23:35] <bittyx-desktop> My main worry is - will Cinnamon work okay with Ubuntu.
[23:35] <abstrakt> aside from the postgres db but that'll go in /var anyway
[23:35] <ikonia> bittyx-desktop: depends where you get it from
[23:36] <luminous> either way, trusty is making docker install instructions not make any sense
[23:36] <bubbasaures> bittyx-desktop, Cinnamon is in the 14.10 repos try the whole OS and decide for yourself.
[23:36] <bittyx-desktop> ikonia: So there's nothing like an official Cinnamon build for Ubuntu?
[23:36] <ikonia> luminous: no it's not
[23:36] <ikonia> luminous: trusty has no impact on dockers instructions
[23:36] <luminous> ikonia: how are you supposed to install dockeer? http://docs.docker.com/installation/ubuntulinux/#ubuntu-precise-1204-lts-64-bit
[23:36] <bittyx-desktop> bubbasaures: If I switch, it's gonna be to 14.04 because LTS.
[23:36] <luminous> ikonia: I'm trying to say that these instruction ^^ make less sense when you see trusty in 12.04
[23:37] <daftykins> luminous: i don't see how you got so stuck.
[23:37] <ikonia> luminous: those documents are actually FOR the HWE you are using
[23:37] <bittyx-desktop> bubbasaures: Can I still use Cinnamon with 14.04?
[23:37] <abstrakt> so, does anyone know how to see what the total size of e.g. the base install is?
[23:37] <luminous> call me stupid, but I'm not connecting the dots here
[23:37] <Bashing-om> bittyx-desktop: Cinnamon desktop is available in 14.10's repository, If it did not work well with the majority of configuations; it would neot be there.
[23:37] <abstrakt> and or ideally find a calculated size by listing what packages you want?
[23:37] <ikonia> abstrakt: 2GB
[23:37] <luminous> sorry, please enlighten me
[23:37] <daftykins> abstrakt: are you talking about a default one, or that silly idea of installing every package? :P
[23:37] <ikonia> abstrakt: but that is not usable as a disk size
[23:37] <malinus> daftykins:(I guess you might want to hear some feedback from the "maxwell installation"). After installing the non-free nvidia drivers from their website, everything just works. Before installing the drivers I was actually able to boot by giving grub the "text" and "nomodeset" settings, no idea why it didn't work with the install.
[23:37] <abstrakt> daftykins, not the idea of every package
[23:38] <bubbasaures> bittyx-desktop, Yes from a ppa, however we don't technically support ppa's here they are 3rd party
[23:38] <daftykins> malinus: excellent! glad it worked out :)
[23:38] <bittyx-desktop> Bashing-om: Sorry, I don't really know much about the release processes of various distros and DEs, though what you say sounds reasonable.
[23:38] <abstrakt> daftykins, the idea of listing out the packages I will probably use and finding out what the total disk size of them would be
[23:38] <ikonia> luminous: it actually says what to do if you are using the HWE and says "refer to note 5 under each version"
[23:38] <daftykins> abstrakt: wow, just pick a size and install the damn thing :P
[23:38] <luminous> ikonia: ok, that would make more sense to me if I understood what HWE meant, and you do, so that makes sense
[23:38] <bittyx-desktop> bubbasaures: So if I want Ubuntu+Cinnamon, I either have to go for a non-LTS release, or a non-supported combination?
[23:39] <abstrakt> daftykins, why, is that an unreasonable option?
[23:39] <abstrakt> seems reasonable to me
[23:39] <luminous> abstrakt: use lvm so the question doesn't matter
[23:39] <abstrakt> if it doesn't exist then that's fine
[23:39] <daftykins> abstrakt: sounds like an utter waste of time to me yep :)
[23:39] <Bashing-om> bittyx-desktop: Keep in mind, 3rd party software is NOT supported here; but there is a PPA to install Cinnamon on 14.04 .
[23:39] <bubbasaures> bittyx-desktop, Until another longterm and cinnamon is in it's repos yes.
[23:39] <abstrakt> daftykins, that's not really a "reason why" but, that's fine
[23:39] <bittyx-desktop> Bashing-om: Understood, bubbasaures already mentioned that.
[23:39] <abstrakt> sounds like this doesn't really exist
[23:40] <bittyx-desktop> bubbasaures, Bashing-om: Thank you both.
[23:40] <abstrakt> there's gotta be a package db I could query though, right?
[23:40] <luminous> ikonia: so yea, that still doesn't tell me what to do
[23:40] <daftykins> abstrakt: seriously, a base install is <3GB, so why not just do 15GB+ and get on with life?
[23:40] <daftykins> abstrakt: are you somehow limited with disk space? help us out with understanding here :)
[23:40] <bubbasaures> bittyx-desktop, Mate is in 14.04 however, just info.
[23:41] <luminous> ikonia: as a user who wants to install docker on ubuntu 12.04, seeing trusty in apt-get upgrade prior to starting this, I am confused seeing the docs only focus on raring
[23:41] <daftykins> in fact there's a whole MATE ediion of ubuntu now!
[23:41] <luminous> or packages with raring in it
[23:41] <abstrakt> daftykins, aight, well I guess that assuages some of my curiosity knowing a base install is less than 3G
[23:41] <ikonia> luminous: luminous it's not confusing, you are on raring
[23:41] <ikonia> luminous: there is no confusion on that at all
[23:41] <luminous> I'm confused about how to install docker correctly so it works
[23:42] <luminous> why is that not clear?
[23:42] <abstrakt> I don't suppose there's a full 15G worth of other software that I would install, so I suppose 20G should be a reasonable size
[23:42] <ikonia> luminous: it is clear
[23:42] <daftykins> abstrakt: yep, unless you're into development of some kind.
[23:42] <abstrakt> well, I am
[23:42] <abstrakt> but again, databases would go on /var anyway
[23:42] <luminous> abstrakt: make /home or other partitions huge
[23:42] <k1l> luminous: lsb_release -d #gives you what?
[23:42] <ikonia> development is not databases
[23:43] <abstrakt> luminous, yeah I intend to make /home as large as possible
[23:43] <bittyx-desktop> bubbasaures: I've never tried it, but looking at the screenshots, it does look awfully similar to how I setup Cinnamon, ie. an application taskbar (with a workspace switcher widget) on the bottom, and a launcher+bunch of widgets on top. Any ideas on how customizable it is?
[23:43] <luminous> k1l: 12.04.5 LTS
[23:43] <daftykins> luminous: "uname -r"
[23:43] <abstrakt> hence I was wondering how to calculate a reasonable minimum size for a root partition
[23:43] <ikonia> it's 12.04 with the LTW HWE
[23:43] <ikonia> I thought thi shad been established
[23:43] <luminous> daftykins: 3.13.0-39-generic
[23:43] <bittyx-desktop> Sorry if my questions seem trivial, I've never really researched this stuff too much.
[23:43] <daftykins> so did i, yet you guys are spinning it out for a ways
[23:43] <k1l> luminous: you can install backported kernels with the hardware enablement stack
[23:43] <daftykins> luminous: follow the trusty instructions, job done?
[23:44] <k1l> luminous: so where is the actual issue?
[23:44] <Bashing-om> abstrakt: As you know I do separate partitions, my '/var/ : /dev/sda8       4.7G  874M  3.6G  20% /var ; again, works well for my use case.
[23:44] <luminous> k1l: i'm trying to focus on docker, not kernels
[23:44] <bubbasaures> bittyx-desktop, Not really, never used it longterm, must be fairly tweak-able,
[23:44] <ikonia> he's installed 12.04.5 - which comes with HWE kernel by default
[23:44] <ikonia> it even says it in the documentation that he's been linked to
[23:44] <k1l> luminous: so where is the issue?
[23:44] <wpd_> Any idea why my x86_64 machine is trying to find armhf packages when I run "apt-get update"?
[23:44] <ikonia> hence why I'm not sure why there is confusion, this is all clearly detailed in the documentation that the install is referencing
[23:44] <wpd_> Where should I look?  I don't see anything in /etc/apt.
[23:45] <bittyx-desktop> bubbasaures: Cool, thanks, I'll look into it. It might just do the trick!
[23:45] <daftykins> wpd_: nope, what've you done to it? :P /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[23:45] <daftykins> wpd_: pastebin an apt-get update
[23:45] <ikonia> wpd_: please run "sudo apt-get update" and pastebin the output please.
[23:46] <Bashing-om> wpd_: @ places to look; -> cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list , tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* <- .
[23:46] <luminous> k1l: knowing what exactly to do to install docker on this host. daftykins is saying I am to follow the docker instructions for trusty.. http://docs.docker.com/installation/ubuntulinux/#ubuntu-trusty-1404-lts-64-bit
[23:46] <OerHeks> wpd_, you said while ago you had installed some arm development stuff ?
[23:46] <ikonia> luminous: the docker instructions tell you what to do, and link you to the HWE docs that explain how your HWE system is configured/it's requirements
[23:46] <kolossen> Can USB hubs for windows be sued without problems for ubuntu?
[23:46] <wpd_> Actually, it was installed on my behalf by some sort of automated installation script.  I wasn't happy.
[23:47] <ikonia> kolossen: it really depends on if they have a propritary chipset in
[23:47] <ikonia> kolossen: normally you can use them without issue
[23:48] <daftykins> wpd_: please follow the instructions 3 of us have given.
[23:48] <jadedspades> Whenever I run OpenSpades, it produces the error: "Failed to dlload 'libopenal.so':/usr/local/games//libopenal.so: cannot read file daya: is a directory"- anyone understand it? (I have libopenal1 installed, too.)
[23:49] <wpd_> Hi all, thanks for the tips.  pastebin is at http://pastebin.com/1vHg6i8N
[23:49] <luminous> ikonia thanks
[23:49] <ikonia> jadedspades: you've installed a game from an external resource that expects the library libopenal.so to exist in /usr/local/games - it does not exist so is having an error
[23:50] <jadedspades> Should I ln the location of libopenal.so to where it expects it to be?
[23:50] <ikonia> oops
[23:50] <daftykins> wpd_: install "pastebinit" then run "pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list" and "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | pastebinit"
[23:50] <ikonia> wpd_: 16.Hit http://packages.ros.org trusty/main armhf Packages
[23:50] <k1l> luminous: follow the regular 12.04 howto but skip the kernel upgrade things since you already have that done
[23:50] <ikonia> wpd_: there you go
[23:50] <owen1> daftykins: cable not connected: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9321945 works: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9321946. Here is what I remember doing: I switched to unity (normaly I am on i3), turned off the monitor (cable still connected), run 'xrandr --output HDMI2 --auto --above eDP1', turned on the monitor, and it works.
[23:50] <ikonia> wpd_: also a ppa too 24.Hit http://ppa.launchpad.net trusty/main armhf Packages
[23:51] <wpd_> ikonia: Where is that ppa specified?  I can't find it in /etc/apt/*
[23:51] <ikonia> /etc/apt/* is not a directory
[23:51] <ikonia> it will either be in your sources.list or the /etc/apt/sources.list.d directory
[23:51] <hades777> night...
[23:52] <wpd_> ikonia: I agree, but "grep -r armhf /etc/apt" doesn't show it.
[23:52] <ikonia> wpd_: don't grep
[23:52] <ikonia> wpd_: look in the files
[23:53] <teaearlgraycold> Is there a command I can use to reboot into a specific grub entry?
[23:54] <ikonia> teaearlgraycold: change the "default" value
[23:55] <teaearlgraycold> ikonia, I guess that could work. Was hoping for an in-persistent solution though
[23:55] <wpd_> ikonia: ok, I'm looking in the files and seeing various references to ppa.launchpad.net.  Which one is pulling in the armhf stuff?  How could I tell?
[23:58] <wpd_> daftykins: see http://paste.ubuntu.com/9322063/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/9322064/
[23:59] <daftykins> wpd_: the ros... stuff. you're going to want to look up the proper commands for removing a PPA though