[00:13] <genii-around> GH0: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WakeOnLan
[01:23] <Guest60667> hi
[01:54] <GH0> Also have one other thing, isn't the whois command default in kubuntu?
[01:54] <GH0> Also have one other thing, isn't the whois command installed by default in kubuntu?
[01:57] <GH0> Nevermind, I find it odd that it doesn't suggest the package whois when you try to use the command and the package isn't installed. It recommends a bunch of other packages instead.
[02:56] <GH0> Hm, so after double checking everything in the Wake On Lan guide that was given to me, all of my settings are correct, but it doesn't wake from a powered off state.
[02:58] <GH0> The device itself supports it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1010643/
[03:04] <GH0> When I look at the NIC itself on the machine, I see it blinking when sending the packets.
[03:11] <phiscribe> just to make sure you meant from suspended or hibernate state, not powered off right?
[03:12]  * ybit hasn't tried wake from LAN yet
[03:12] <GH0> No, I mean powered off. WakeOnLan should support powered off devices from what I have read.
[03:13] <phiscribe> is there a bios setting?
[03:14] <GH0> There is a BIOS Setting for PCI/PCIE devices, which I have set to Enabled.
[03:15] <GH0> I would power the machine down again, but, it's my link to IRC. :)
[03:16] <GH0> I am wondering if the nirsoft tool just wasn't working correctly. My next try is directly from dd-wrt
[03:18] <phiscribe> man im just out to loop, i did this once, ages ago, im thinking what i could say would be outdated, i do remember you have to send the nic a "magic packet" to get it to wake, was that what you did from another machine?
[03:18] <phiscribe> i leave my machines on and disks spinning, have one thats gone 11 years
[03:19] <GH0> phiscribe, yeah, that is what I did. Generally that is what I do to as well, the reason why I am setting this up is if I am away from the machine and need to access something remotely and the power goes out. Like it did last week.
[03:20] <phiscribe> might be worth seeing if it works from hibernate,  just to find out
[03:20] <phiscribe> set the bios to power up after power outage
[03:21] <phiscribe> as an alternative to wake on lan
[03:21] <GH0> phiscribe, it's set up to do that already. :P
[03:21] <phiscribe> so thats not working either?
[03:21] <GH0> Also, apparently my hibernate feature is broken. That or it doesn't work when I am remoted in.
[03:22] <GH0> No, that does work, it just doens't work in quick power outages that happen for less than 3 seconds.
[03:22] <GH0> Or the grace time for the power to be completely removed from the board.
[03:22] <phiscribe> a ups isnt involved is it
[03:22] <GH0> No
[03:23] <GH0> Let me shut the machine down for a second and lets find out I guess. Is there any way to tell if WoL is listening on port 7 or port 9?
[03:23] <GH0> DD-WRT requires a port number.
[03:25] <phiscribe> probably 9 with ddwrt
[03:25] <phiscribe> maybe this can aid you http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/WOL
[03:35] <GH0> Yeah, didn't work.
[03:35] <GH0> Verified a couple settings, which is why it took so long.
[03:36] <phiscribe> train a rat to hit the power button when a light goes out and back on
[03:37] <GH0> Too bad that would take too long.
[03:38] <phiscribe> yeah, i guess your right, but, figuring out where the hold up is might take awhile too
[03:39] <phiscribe> is the nic built into the mother board, if so what mb? if not what nic?
[03:44] <mangdood_> I can't seem to get xspim to run, but there's no error messages printed to the terminal at all
[03:45] <GH0> Hm, it does work...
[03:45] <GH0> Just not after a direct power on like I can imitate when the issue happens.
[03:45] <GH0> :(
[03:47] <phiscribe> maybe look in the system logs and see if left a trail
[03:48] <phiscribe> that is the xspim error
[03:48] <phiscribe> gh0 maybe ebay a ups, good idea anyway
[03:48] <phiscribe> but your probably like me, it aught to work so you will hammer at it till it does
[03:50] <GH0> Yeah, a UPS would be good anyways. Considering I have a RAID without a BBU in it.
[03:53] <phiscribe> mangdood_:  did you compile it yourself?
[03:53] <mangdood_> phiscribe: nope, got it from the repositories
[03:53] <mangdood_> I tried sudo grep xspim /var/log/ and no results
[03:54] <phiscribe> try grepping just spim
[03:55] <phiscribe> try adding this packages "xfonts-75dpi" and "xfonts-100dpi
[03:55] <GH0> What log would it be? syslog or some other log?
[03:55] <phiscribe> GH0: , sorry was chating with mangdood_
[03:56] <mangdood_> phiscribe: absolutely nothing in the log files lol
[03:56] <mangdood_> In a bit
[03:56] <phiscribe> GH0: yours sounds like hardware not working, as you got it to work in a test evnvironment, its the short poweroutage case that is stuck
[03:58] <phiscribe> mangdood_:  did you launch with xspim &, then check top to see if it is realy not runing
[03:58] <mangdood_> phiscribe: yep, I checked
[03:59] <mangdood_> sorry for not keeping up. So many disturbances
[03:59] <phiscribe> only thing my google fu shows https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/spim/+bug/824084
[03:59] <phiscribe> talks about missing fonts
[03:59] <phiscribe> why u wanna beat your self in the head with assembly language though, uggg
[04:00] <mangdood_> Cuz of my herping course
[04:00] <mangdood_> urgh, I don't want to restart my x server, but I'd like to get this over with; help on IRC is scarce, it seems
[04:01] <phiscribe> im not helping, im just twiddling till you figure it out
[04:01] <mangdood_> IT's fine
[04:02] <mangdood_> IT's amazing how many bugs are reported but not fixed, from what I've seen
[04:02] <phiscribe> eh they get fixed, its just slowly
[04:02] <phiscribe> i mean like near a black hole slow
[04:03] <GH0> Well, I am thinking it is because a flag isn't set to realize something is listening on the device, prior to it booting up, or once it shuts down, it wipes the flag because it doesn't automatically start back up.
[04:04] <mangdood_> should startkde4 get me a nice x server to test xspim?
[04:08] <prativasic>  /msg NickServ identify UTSOBERPORE
[04:09] <phiscribe> mangdood_: i havent manualy started the x server in kde in ages, maybe they set it back to just plain startkde
[04:11] <mangdood> I nicely broke the system when exiting a fresh x server
[04:12] <mangdood> when I tried to avoid closing my applications
[04:12] <mangdood> turns out I had to reset my computer in the end. At least the application works now :P
[04:13] <phiscribe> ah anyone going to start coding in assebly has to have a mad skills at maiming a session hehe
[04:14] <mangdood> Oh yeah, I noticed that starting a new x session isn't allowed if you already have an x session active on your display by default
[04:14] <mangdood> Why is that?
[04:16] <phiscribe> just joking, only an expert can realy foul a system up hehe
[04:18] <GH0> phiscribe, is this worth it? No idea.
[04:18] <GH0> Gah... freaking clipboard issues
[04:18] <GH0> http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRIPP-LITE-SU1000RTXL2UA-1000VA-800W-6-OUTLET-RACKMOUNT-UPS-/330738658220?pt=US_Uninterruptible_Power_Supplies&hash=item4d018f6bac#ht_4130wt_1163
[04:19] <mangdood> phiscribe: yeah, but it also takes moderate amounts of knowledge to fix even the simplest of problems too
[04:19] <mangdood> so even the mos basic of users can make a mistake they can't fix
[04:19] <mangdood> so basic users*
[04:21] <mangdood> Yeah, I'll stop complaining since I always bring this up :P Always aggroed about problems in computers
[04:22] <phiscribe> GH0: well it looks ok, just wonder how its gonna do under linux, so i dont know,
[04:24] <GH0> Well, I dont need graceful shutdown, just need it to stay on for 2 to 5 minutes or more.
[04:25] <mangdood> phiscribe: does xspim have a... don't really know the words for it... gnome interface?
[04:25] <phiscribe> i meant that most of these have a usb interface to configure the device and monitor, most have a windows app on teh other end
[04:26] <phiscribe> mangdood: http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/mckinley/352/xspim/getstart.html   gui is the term i think you wanted
[04:29] <phiscribe> GH0: look up the package nut, that is one example, the question is will the ups you buy work with that utility or a similar one
[04:29] <phiscribe> Network UPS Tools (NUT) is a client/server monitoring system that
[04:29] <phiscribe> allows computers to share uninterruptible power supply (UPS) and
[04:29] <phiscribe> power distribution unit (PDU) hardware.
[04:30] <phiscribe> oops, sorry
[04:30] <phiscribe> i think its pretty standardized though
[04:30] <Belial`> does anyone have a problem with reqonk randomly not playing flash videos from sites like justin.tv?
[04:31] <Belial`> sometimes it'll work, sometimes it won't.
[04:31] <phiscribe> sorry Belial` i use chromium mostly
[04:32] <Belial`> i'd like to use chromium if i could find a good theme to make it look like it belongs in kde.
[04:33] <phiscribe> Belial`: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/search-themes/kde?utm_source=chrome-ntp-icon
[04:33] <phiscribe> might have to launch that in chromium
[04:38] <mangdood> phiscribe: xspim (and assembly in general) is not overwhelming at all :P Thanks for the help; off to bed
[04:39] <phiscribe> its just tedius, i cut my teeth on assembly on an ibm mainframe, (batch process over hp mainframe via 300 buad modem) in the 80's
[04:43] <phiscribe> ah an upgrade says i gotta reboot, image that, later
[05:14] <mkpaa> how could I get firefox to use dolphin as file manager? running latest kubuntu, but the problem was in previous versions too
[05:19] <Phiscribe> maybe here mkpaa  http://forums.opensuse.org/applications/410863-dolphin-file-manager-firefox.html
[05:19] <Phiscribe> maybe
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[05:59] <mkpaa> looks like the instructions are either for different problem or different version
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[10:59] <natman> hey, does anyone know about Kubuntu merchandise?
[11:22] <NoiseCounsellor> Anyone have experience with a Kindle causing all sorts of trouble? For me, it entirely refuses to charge, copying files to it causes plasma to occasionally freeze for several seconds while the copying is in progress and when I want to unmount it, it says "Cannot unmount because the filesystem on the device is busy."
[11:37] <NoiseCounsellor> ah, never mind, figured out why I couldn't eject it. Had a file manager still open on another desktop. Still, copying files causing plasma to freeze?
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[14:47] <muhdazmilug> hi
[14:48] <muhdazmilug> my wlan interface not working,fyi, my laptop is compaq presario cq43
[14:48] <muhdazmilug> i can't enable the "enable wireless." how to i fix it
[14:50] <muhdazmilug> this is my wifi :  07:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:4727] (rev 01)
[14:51] <bazhang> !broadcom | muhdazmilug
[14:51] <muhdazmilug> thanks
[15:12] <BluesKaj> hey all
[15:47] <trash_> [12:47] <trash_> AI pessoal ALGUEM saca UM PROGRAMA legal PRA ASSISTIR Tv pela net no ubuntu??
[15:47] <trash_> [12:47] <trash_> AI pessoal ALGUEM saca UM PROGRAMA legal PRA ASSISTIR Tv pela net no ubuntu??a
[15:47] <bazhang> !br | trash_
[15:52] <trash_> ja
[16:26] <kaddi> hi
[16:27] <kaddi> every since i upgrade to 12.04 nautilus will open automatically on boot. How do I fix that?
[16:27] <kaddi> I'm running kde, obviously and a 64bit OS
[16:29] <snevittken> I can't find the buttons for installing/removing languages and setting the global system language any more. They used to be in System Settings >> Locale. Now? Nope. Weird?
[16:31] <snevittken> I used gnome-control-center to set the system language to English, not knowing how else to do it...
[16:31] <kaddi> locale >> system languages?
[16:33] <snevittken> kaddi, I don't have that
[16:33] <kaddi> what kde version are you using?
[16:34] <snevittken> 4.8.3 on Kubuntu 12.04
[16:34] <kaddi> hm, odd
[16:34] <snevittken> maybe it needs to be installed like the user management?
[16:34] <kaddi> it's in the menu on the left with country/region, spell checker and system languages?
[16:35] <snevittken> for me there's just country/region and spell checker
[16:35] <kaddi> hmm, odd. I don't know then
[16:40] <openos> hello guys how to make a keyboard shortcut to kill xserver in kde
[16:41] <openos> how to restart xserver in kde ??
[16:42] <openos> Someone help ho to get back <Ctrl><Alt>backspace in kubuntu
[16:42] <DarthFrog> openos: There already is one:  ALT-SHIFT-SysReq-K.
[16:42] <DarthFrog> It's a bit of a contortion, but it works.
[16:42] <snevittken> don't have a sysreq key any more :o
[16:42] <openos> sysreq?????
[16:43] <DarthFrog> openos: Yeah, it's on the PrintScreen key.
[16:43] <openos> Okey i will try
[16:44] <snevittken> you can reactivate ctrl-alt-backspace in System Settings >> Hardware >> Input DEvices >> Keyboard
[16:44] <openos> nothing
[16:44] <openos> how i can change it
[16:44] <snevittken> go to the Advanced tab and you'll see a "Key sequence to kill the X server" item
[16:44] <openos> to be <Ctrl><Alt>backspace
[16:44] <snevittken> I just told you
[16:44] <DarthFrog> The Alt-Shift-SysReq-K combo is one that can't accidently be hit.  Unlike, you know, Ctl-Alt-Backspace, which was forever being accidently engaged.
[16:44] <BarkingFish> Afternoon guys - just out of interest, has anyone here picked up the new kernel update which has come through, <IP_ADDRESS>-27?
[16:46] <BarkingFish> I know I've been told apper reports downloads at their compressed size, but even I think this lot are wrong - It has the kernel itself at 1.6KB, the headers at 6.4KB, and a third kernel package at only 5.49KB.
[16:46] <BarkingFish> I suspect these packages may be corrupt, unless they're compressed to the point of implosion :P
[16:51] <BarkingFish> Yeah - i think the kernel image is borked.  It's just tried to install the kernel image, and hung at 63%.  Apper has ceased to function, and I can't close it - only way out is to CTRL+ALT+ESC and kill the window
[16:52] <BarkingFish> which leaves me stuck - if I kill the window and reboot, will it go looking for a non existant kernel image since it was in the process of installing it?
[16:52] <BarkingFish> My last was 3.2.0-24
[16:58] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish, install kde-config-grub2 , it's a configuration module for System Settings for configuring the
[16:58] <BluesKaj> GRUB2 bootloader.
[16:58] <BarkingFish> BluesKaj, yeah - I already have that. My concern is the broken kernel more than anything
[16:59] <BluesKaj> the partilly installed kernel can then be removed with configure app
[16:59] <BarkingFish> ah. Forgot about that :P
[16:59]  * BarkingFish shakes his head
[16:59] <BarkingFish> the heat is getting to me :)
[16:59] <BluesKaj> well, it's worth a try
[17:00] <BluesKaj> if the kernel isn't totally installed , it might not show up in the list
[17:01] <BarkingFish> yeah, it wasn't fully installed - i wound up nailing apper with the skull n crossbones thingy
[17:02] <BarkingFish> I can't figure out simply if apper screwed up or whether the 25-27 kernel is actually borked
[17:03] <BluesKaj> BarkingFish, I would check if I could but I'm on the 34 kernel I think , 12.10 here
[17:03] <BarkingFish> yeah, I'm on 12.10 too, but I've not got any of the proposed doodads switched on  this time
[17:04] <BarkingFish> i haven't turned any of those on and probably won't until I'm sure that 12.10 is going to be stable enough to work off
[17:04] <BluesKaj> err , I mean the 3
[17:04] <BarkingFish> yeah, this is a 3 series kernel - <IP_ADDRESS>-27
[17:05] <BluesKaj> actually it's stable but I wouldn't trust it for the workplace quite yet
[17:05] <BarkingFish> ok. Well I'll do the necessary and sort out grub2, knock out the 25 kernel if it's appeared, and then go on and reboot, and try to install it again
[17:06] <BluesKaj> 3.4.0-3 here
[17:06] <BarkingFish> are you running one of the daily updates thingies?
[17:06] <BluesKaj> no
[17:06] <BluesKaj> I updated from the net
[17:07] <BarkingFish> aha
[17:07] <BluesKaj> upgraded
[17:07] <BarkingFish> Ok, well I'll be back in a bit - see you soon, assuming everything goes well
[17:07] <BarkingFish> bbfn
[17:42] <renosis> What is the proper way to run Dolphin as root in Kubuntu 12.04?
[17:43] <qbit> me I just in a terminal window in konsole do: kdesudo dolphin
[17:44] <renosis> qbit, ya that is how I do it too... I was just wondering if there was a better way, because I always end up with the terminal piping out all these strange messages
[17:45] <renosis> not that it is a problem,  the terminal is minimized or whatever, but still just thought there might be a better way
[17:45] <qbit> a GUI way will still have all those errors present you just won't ever see them
[17:46] <qbit> in the start menu editor you could copy an entry and rename it something like Dolphin root, then in the Advanced tab there is a 'Run as different user' config you can set to root
[17:47] <renosis> Ok, thanks, I will try that
[17:48] <qbit> in that same tab you can also assign it a shortcut key as well, should you so desire
[17:48] <renosis> ah, neat
[17:51] <renosis> thanks qbit
[19:33] <user> hallo zusammen
[19:33] <user> spricht hier jemand deutsch
[19:40] <cancer> How to download skype for kubuntu?
[19:41] <GH0> sudo apt-get install skype ?
[19:43] <cancer> will that works fine after installation?
[19:44] <cancer> GH0: and how to check what kde version i'm using?
[19:44] <Guest72560> linux 2012
[19:44] <Guest72560> how to linux 2012
[19:44] <GH0> cancer, no idea.
[19:44] <Guest72560> wat linux
[19:45] <Guest72560> qual o melhor linux
[19:45] <Guest72560>
[19:45] <Guest72560>
[19:45] <Guest72560>
[19:45] <FloodBotK1> Guest72560: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:46] <Guest72560> black buntu o que vc axa
[19:46] <Guest72560> ??
[19:53] <eydaimon> Whenever I watch HULU, the computer goes on powersave after about 10 minutes. I've turned off the power save options, but it still does it. Anyone have ideas?
[19:58] <BluesKaj> eydaimon, leave the power save options on , just set them to 180 mins or so
[20:18] <sunitasethi> eydaimon: it is probbaly your screensaver setting
[20:30] <eydaimon> SunTsu: and this is different from powersave?
[20:47] <ed_> hi, in calendar kde how do change start of the week from sunday to monday?
[20:52] <BluesKaj> ed  right click on the panel clock>digital clock settings>click on the little wrench to right of the date format>click on the calendar tab
[20:52] <BluesKaj> nice
[22:22] <ball> hello


[00:00] <gnuskool> seancron: no, i can go lower to 640, but not higher
[00:00] <seancron> blackperl: it seems like you have synaptic set to auto start
[00:01] <cheeseboy> how do i setup a network bridge?
[00:01] <seancron> gnuskool: odd...and just to be sure, thats through the xfce settings manager?
[00:14] <emdash> ughhhhhh
[00:14] <emdash> my 8.04 upgrade just barfed
[00:14] <seancron> how so?
[00:14] <emdash> subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[00:14] <emdash> Could not install 'xserver-xorg'
[00:15] <emdash> that popped up in a dialog
[00:15] <emdash> meanwhile there's a whole slew of nasty error messages in the terminal
[00:16] <emdash> i knew i should have waited
[00:18] <seancron> how did you try to upgrade?
[00:18] <emdash> using the update manager from 7.10
[00:21] <emdash> where do i go to file bug reports?
[00:22] <zoredache> !bugs
[00:22] <zoredache> ubotu?  are you gone?
[00:22] <emdash> maybe ubotu tried to upgrade as well
[00:22] <emdash> =P
[00:22] <emdash> what the hell do I do now?
[00:22] <seancron> hahaha seems like this might help:
[00:22] <seancron> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4706661
[00:23] <emdash> oh great
[00:23] <emdash> my menu font is borked
[00:23] <zoredache> you close everything you can go to a console and do a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' again...
[00:23] <seancron> ...and maybe pray :P
[00:24] <PsynoKhi0> 3 hard resets only today... not much muck with hardy so far
[00:24] <PsynoKhi0> muck = luck*
[00:24]  * emdash is seriously frustrated with ubuntu
[00:24] <emdash> suspend support has been broken since 7.04
[00:24] <emdash> and now this
[00:25] <zoredache> so did you have any unofficial repositories enabled or anything?
[00:25] <emdash> they were disabled by the update manager (or so it said)
[00:25] <emdash> i think i had medibuntu and that's about it
[00:25] <zoredache> or use something like envy/ automatix at some point in time
[00:25] <emdash> what is envy?
[00:25] <emdash> this started out as a fresh install of 7.04
[00:25] <emdash> then i uptated to 7.10
[00:26] <zoredache> something that configures displays...  Many people argue that it does ugly/evil things
[00:26] <PsynoKhi0> any IceWM user here?
[00:26] <emdash> afaik it's completely stock
[00:26] <emdash> but i use universe/multiverse
[00:26] <emdash> and some restricted drivers
[00:27] <emdash> it seriously looks like there's some errors in the xserver-xorg install scripts
[00:27] <emdash> i'm also afraid to kill *everything* because I might not be able to get back to X11
[00:27] <seancron> maybe somebody on the #ubuntu channel might be able to help more seeing as there are more people?
[00:27] <emdash> thank god i actually backed up /home before trying this
[00:28] <seancron> wish i could help more but i'm still with Dapper
[00:28] <zoredache> do you not have a spare computer, or anything to get on the internet with?
[00:28] <emdash> note to self: don't be ubuntu's guinnea pig...wait a month before updatating to a new release
[00:29] <zoredache> or perhaps a livecd or something?
[00:30] <PsynoKhi0> puppylinux makes a great "oh sh*t..." rescue OS
[00:38] <fldav76> hello?
[00:38] <zoredache> hello
[00:38] <fldav76> I was trying to find the place where i could get help setting up xubunutu
[00:39] <zoredache> you can try to get help here.. there are no guarentees
[00:39] <seancron> we try our best
[00:39] <fldav76> yeah, i know....at least i'm in the right place
[00:39] <fldav76> i've never used irc before
[00:40] <fldav76> well...should i just dive right in and talk about my problem?
[00:40] <seancron> go ahead
[00:41] <zoredache> the first hint I have for you about irc is that you don't have to ask to ask...  Asking to ask a question will just annoy people.  :p
[00:41] <fldav76> alright....I've been going through sevreal distros and heard that xubunutu was rather low on system requirements...so i've installed it and so far everything is great...but...
[00:41] <fldav76> i have a linksys WUSB 11 version 2.5  usb wireless card
[00:42] <fldav76> i have tryed to run the bash commands that i know about to set the wlan0 connection up...but so far it hasn't worked
[00:43] <vidd> fldav76, in CLI type lsusb
[00:43] <vidd> what chipset does it say?
[00:43] <fldav76> it seems that xubuntu recognises that a wireless device is present...but i can't see any networks...and i can't connect using the wireless____[i'll do that now...brb]
[00:44] <seancron> have you tried going through it with the GUI...sometimes that's easier
[00:44] <fldav76> d@lincom:~$ lsusb
[00:44] <fldav76> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[00:44] <fldav76> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 066b:2212 Linksys, Inc. WUSB11v2.5 802.11b Adapter
[00:44] <fldav76> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
[00:44] <vidd> hrm
[00:45] <fldav76> [seancron: i'd love to use the gui...i just haven't been able to get it to work]
[00:45] <vidd> have you turned on restricted drivers?
[00:45] <fldav76> hmm.,..not on purpose...how would i check that
[00:45] <KillerOrca> grrr, anyone know how to set a static IP address?
[00:46] <vidd> KillerOrca, on wifi or lan?
[00:46] <KillerOrca> vidd: lan
[00:46] <vidd> 7.10 or 8.04?
[00:47] <KillerOrca> 8.04
[00:47] <vidd> fldav76, Applications>System>HardwareDrivers
[00:48] <vidd> KillerOrca, do you have the network plugin omn your toolbars?
[00:48] <fldav76> no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[00:48] <vidd> (icon that looks like two comp screens)
[00:48] <KillerOrca> vidd: i'm trying to do it command line
[00:49] <vidd> KillerOrca, oh...ok....
[00:49] <vidd> one sec....
[00:49] <KillerOrca> vidd: the grapical portion takes up a lot of resources
[00:50] <vidd> !paste
[00:50] <KillerOrca> !paste
[00:51] <vidd> the pastebin link wont work
[00:52] <zoredache> ubuto is dead...
[00:53] <zoredache> I am reading the #ubuntu-ops logs... appearently the computer he was hosted on stoppped hosting him
[00:53] <vidd> KillerOrca, http://pastebin.com/d782eabe3
[00:54] <vidd> make your /etc/networking/interfaces look similar
[00:55] <vidd> sorry guys...i have to jet
[00:55] <fldav76> anybody else able to lend a hand with the wireless problem?
[00:55] <seancron> ill try my best
[00:56] <fldav76> thanks
[00:56] <fldav76> what can i do to make it easier?
[00:56] <zoredache> about all I can do is suggest that you look at - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessTroubleShootingGuide - if you haven't already
[00:57] <seancron> try going to applications>system>networking
[00:58] <seancron> do you see a wireless connection item?
[00:59] <fldav76> {zoredache: I have looked through the most common how-to guides....but i', li,ited because I'm not sure what is normal behaviour and what is not...in windows i could tell weather i was attacking a problem in the right way...in linux, i'm just a babe in arms]
[00:59] <fldav76> [seancron: yes...wlan0
[01:00] <seancron> click on that and then click on properties
[01:00] <fldav76> oddly enough it calles it a wired connection
[01:00] <fldav76> ok
[01:00] <seancron> try to configure your network
[01:00] <fldav76> it's on automatic dhcp right now
[01:00] <seancron> that should probably be good
[01:01] <fldav76> roaming unchecked
[01:01] <seancron> your network name in there?
[01:01] <seancron> and any key you might have?
[01:01] <fldav76> in wlan0 properties? no
[01:02] <seancron> well then type them in
[01:02] <fldav76> in fact...i have never been able to figure out just where one would look for avalible wireless networks
[01:03] <fldav76> the wlan0 properties dialog box only shows boxes for
[01:03] <fldav76> configuration
[01:03] <fldav76> ip address
[01:03] <fldav76> subnet mask
[01:03] <fldav76> gateway address
[01:03] <seancron> are you setting it up for a home network or trying to find available networks?
[01:04] <seancron> sorry im still running off of dapper so my screen might not match up
[01:05] <fldav76> well, eventually i want to set up a home network to share my dsl internet to my laptops....but as a first step i was just trying to get to the point whre i could see my neighbors wireless network...at least that would prove the card is proking
[01:09] <vidd> KillerOrca, did it work for ya?
[01:10] <fldav76> i'd be happy to send a screenshot...but i'm not sure how
[01:10] <vidd> fldav76, did you get your wifi to work?
[01:11] <fldav76> not yet///seancron is lending a bit of a hand
[01:12] <seancron> im still on dapper so there are some differences...help would be appreciated
[01:12] <vidd> mine just worked
[01:12] <vidd> =\
[01:12] <fldav76> lol...i wish
[01:13] <seancron> vidd: do you know how to scan for available networks?
[01:13] <vidd> iwlist scan
[01:13] <fldav76> btw...i'm running xubuntu 8.04 desktop
[01:13] <fldav76> will do
[01:13] <fldav76> d@lincom:~$ iwlist wlan0 scan
[01:13] <fldav76> wlan0     No scan results
[01:14] <seancron> might not mean anything if the card isnt set up?
[01:14] <fldav76> d@lincom:~$ iwlist scan
[01:14] <fldav76> lo        Interface doesn't support scanning.
[01:14] <fldav76> eth0      Interface doesn't support scanning.
[01:14] <fldav76> wlan0     No scan results
[01:14] <fldav76> d@lincom:~$
[01:14] <vidd> ping [gateway IP]
[01:15] <fldav76> i don't know my gateway ip.../i may not have one...right now i'm connected to a dsl line
[01:15] <vidd> do you have a wireless router?
[01:16] <seancron> fldav76 said: well, eventually i want to set up a home network to share my dsl internet to my laptops....but as a first step i was just trying to get to the point whre i could see my neighbors wireless network...at least that would prove the card is proking
[01:16] <fldav76> no....in the end i'd like to use this computer to share my dsl line over the wireless card
[01:17] <vidd> you would be better off getting a wireless router
[01:17] <vidd> can you "se" the neighbor's wifi on a different system?
[01:18] <fldav76> i know...but 1. i haven't got the m,oney and 2. i'll only use it occasionally
[01:18] <fldav76> yes..i can see it on a wondows xp laptop
[01:18] <vidd> what is it's ip?
[01:19] <zoredache> are you actually able to connect from your laptop?
[01:20] <fldav76> well, i can copnnect to any wireless network using the laptop (at the library etc) but i don't have the wep key so i can't actually connect to the neighbors
[01:20] <vidd> if you cant connect on windows, you cant connect on linux
[01:20] <zoredache> keeping that in mind I kinda think trying to see something you can't use is pointless
[01:21] <seancron> i feel like we're misunderstanding what you are trying to do
[01:21] <zoredache> xubuntu is aimed more at desktop usage... If you are trying to turn your computer into an AP you might want to ask in #ubuntu-server...
[01:22] <Kaemon12433> Hey!
[01:22] <Kaemon12433> i'm new to xubuntu!
[01:22] <fldav76> you are right...but i can't tell if my wireless card is set up properly at this point..i was just trying to prove that it was set up properly
[01:22] <zoredache> I also think that you are going to have a lot of pain trying to get a USB device work as an AP
[01:22] <seancron> nice to meet you Kaemon12433, congratulations!
[01:22] <Kaemon12433> had trouble with all the other ones
[01:22] <fldav76> i've heard that before...and so far they were all correct
[01:22] <Kaemon12433> took awhile to get xubuntu to run fast online
[01:22] <Kaemon12433> seemed like the firefox 3 beta is'nt all that good
[01:23] <Kaemon12433> went to firefox 2
[01:23] <fldav76> but i don't just want a server setup...i'd like to use this computer as a normal desktop as well
[01:24] <Kaemon12433> hey i dont know how to set up my digital cam in xubuntu
[01:25] <seancron> i think what you need to find out is how to connect to public access points so you can see if you card works at a place like the library
[01:25] <seancron> Kaemon12433: what type of camera is it?
[01:25] <Kaemon12433> kodak
[01:25] <zoredache> Kaemon12433:  the really easy way is to buy a supported USB memory reader for the media type your camera uses
[01:25] <Kaemon12433> oh...
[01:25] <Kaemon12433> yea it's a kodak easysharec653
[01:25] <fldav76> true...that's what iwas trying to do ...test whether i can "see" the access point around here
[01:25] <seancron> and maybe if you are lucky the usb cable that came with it will work
[01:26] <Kaemon12433> maybe i jus need to go to kodak.com and get the software like that?
[01:27] <Kaemon12433> wait no
[01:27] <Kaemon12433> darn
[01:27] <Kaemon12433> kodak does'nt support linux
[01:27] <Kaemon12433> hmm
[01:27] <Kaemon12433> ubuntu detected it right when i plugged it up tho
[01:27] <Kaemon12433> and it transferred the images
[01:28] <Kaemon12433> hopefully xubuntu does the same?
[01:28] <seancron> Kaemon12433: try it and tell us if you have any problems
[01:28] <Kaemon12433> k
[01:28] <Kaemon12433> thank you
[01:31] <fldav76> any thoughts anybody?
[01:32] <vidd> can you access any wifi on your windowsbox(es)?
[01:32] <vidd> where you are now
[01:32] <fldav76> i can setup a testing network and connect to that i guess
[01:33] <vidd> good idea
[01:34] <fldav76> i guess i have one last question...how does one normally connect to a wireless network (in , say, a hotel) using xubuntu
[01:36] <vidd> right click on the network applet and choose connect
[01:37] <fldav76> that's what i tought...ah welll
[01:37] <fldav76> thank anyways fellas
[01:37] <fldav76> have a good one
[02:17] <redwhitewaldo> where's thunar bin file?
[02:17] <seancron> type 'whereis thunar'
[02:17] <redwhitewaldo> thanks!!!
[02:17] <seancron> no problem
[02:27] <VulKnO> HOLA
[02:28] <VulKnO> command for reinstall icons
[02:37] <emdash> hmm
[02:37] <emdash> well it rebooted okay
[02:52] <oasisfai> what should I do if create launcher is broken in xubuntu?
[02:52] <seancron> oasisfai: what do you mean is broken?
[02:55] <seancron> oasisfai: how is it broken?
[02:55] <oasisfai> when I right click on xfce desktop and select create laucher, then I type something in textfield. after that, the frame dispear.
[02:58] <seancron> hmm...so you type in the command for the launcher and it never shows up on your desktop?
[02:59] <oasisfai> yes.
[03:00] <seancron> try typing this in a terminal: 'killall xfdesktop; xfdesktop &'
[03:00] <seancron> tell me if they show up or not
[03:02] <oasisfai> the terminal show up no process call xfdesktop
[03:02] <seancron> ok
[03:04] <seancron> well if you go into your Desktop folder and add a launcher through thunar i believe it should show up
[03:04] <oasisfai> the entire message was: no process killed. [1] 6353
[03:05] <seancron> yeah i guess you have a different setup than i do
[03:05] <seancron> i was trying to kill the desktop process and restarted it again
[03:06] <seancron> try restarting X11 by doing ctrl+alt+backspace note: you'll have to login again
[03:06] <seancron> other than that im stumped
[03:06] <oasisfai> ok.
[03:08] <oasisfai> still have problem.
[03:10] <seancron> sorry i honestly can't think of why it might be happening
[03:11] <seancron> id say your best bet is to either google it or get an answer from somebody else
[03:11] <oasisfai> I just found some critical message in terminal
[03:11] <seancron> what does it say?
[03:12] <oasisfai> when the create laucher was failed, at the same time, the terminal show up: (exo-desktop-item-edit:6734): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_utf8_casefold: assertion `str != NULL' failed
[03:13] <seancron> hmmm well i have to leave so see what almighty google has to say to that
[03:13] <seancron> good luck
[03:48] <`MrMoo-> hi i need help installing a wireless network card driver
[03:49] <seancron> haven't really done it before but ill give it a shot
[03:50] <seancron> what driver?
[03:50] <`MrMoo-> hi umm
[03:50] <`MrMoo-> ibm high rate wireless lan
[03:50] <seancron> is that the name of the driver?
[03:51] <`MrMoo-> thats the name of the network card
[03:51] <`MrMoo-> im trying to get the wireless lan working on an ancient ibm thinkpad (a22m)
[03:51] <seancron> and you have no luck with the built in support?
[03:51] <`MrMoo-> yep no luck with that
[03:52] <`MrMoo-> the system doesnt recognize the device when i type "iwconfig"
[03:52] <`MrMoo-> wlan0 doesnt show up
[03:53] <`MrMoo-> i also tried using the windows wireless drivers app to isntall the driver
[03:53] <`MrMoo-> it just says that it's an invalid driver
[03:53] <`MrMoo-> (btw i got the driver from the ibm website)
[03:54] <seancron> ok you might want to try the #ubuntu channel, they have a lot of experience with wireless drivers so i think someone there can help you sorry
[03:54] <`MrMoo-> no prob, thanks anyway
[04:40] <merbuntu> is there a kill signal i can use to quit system tools like 'add/remove', synaptic, etc??  some of these seem to freeze up on this old laptop, and i'm going to be giving it away in central america on friday.  the users will only have dial up, so anything that can help them speed things up would be good.  also, can someone recommend a secondary (text based?) browser to install as an alternative to f
[04:40] <merbuntu> irefox?
[04:41] <maxamillion> merbuntu: if i remember correctly, ctrl+alt+escape will open up "Xkill" and your cursor will turn into a skull and cross bones and then you just click on what app you want killed
[04:43] <merbuntu> maxamillion: you mean just click in the apps window anywhere?
[04:43] <maxamillion> merbuntu: yup
[04:43] <merbuntu> i'll try it in a few mins, what about a text based browser good for dialup connection?
[04:43] <maxamillion> but be carefull ... if you click the wrong application, then *poof* its gone ... this tool doesn't ask "are you sure?"
[04:44] <merbuntu> firefox should make a dialup version
[04:44] <maxamillion> merbuntu: i use w3m, but links2 is generally more popular if you don't like having to remember key combinations
[04:44] <maxamillion> merbuntu: i;m sorry, not links2 ... elinks
[04:45] <merbuntu> counsel taken re: *poof* ... is elinks in synaptic?
[04:45] <maxamillion> links2 is good too, but i think elinks is more under development
[04:45] <maxamillion> merbuntu: yes, elinks should be in synaptics
[04:45] <merbuntu> ok, i go check ... thanks
[04:46] <maxamillion> np
[04:46] <maxamillion> merbuntu: you might need to make sure you enable all the repositories
[04:47] <merbuntu> k, is there a terminal command for that? or do it in the synaptic windows?
[04:49] <merbuntu> wow.  synaptic acts sooooOOOOOoooo sluggish on this machine.
[04:49] <maxamillion> merbuntu: yes, there is a command line tool ... i've actually never used synaptic, i prefer the command line
[04:49] <maxamillion> merbuntu: do 'apt-cache search -n elinks'
[04:49] <maxamillion> merbuntu: and if that returns something then do 'sudo apt-get install elinks'
[04:52] <merbuntu> ctrl/alt/esc dint work on synaptic, its still rattling around .... arrrrggghhh, i'll need to close it to use the command line, right?
[04:53] <maxamillion> merbuntu: probably a decent idea .. i can't remember if it will interfere
[04:53] <merbuntu> hmmmm.... i see elinks, and elinks lite in synaptic
[04:56] <maxamillion> its a command line browser, i don't see the need for the lite version
[05:01] <merbuntu> hwhooops, it has NO gui?  they might not be able to handle that.  i was thinking of something more like netrik, that i've used on damn small before, i wonder if ubuntu has that in reps?
[05:02] <maxamillion> never heard of netrik
[05:02] <maxamillion> i thought dillo was what's on damn small
[05:24] <Tixer> I have a problem on a Xubuntu server I manage. The server responds to ping, I can SSH / VNC into it, but it can't access any sites other than the router it uses. I even tried pinging <IP_ADDRESS>, which doesn't work. Any ideas?
[05:25] <maxamillion> Tixer: wait, you can ping it and ssh into it but you can't ping out of it?
[05:25] <gaurdro> is the router setup to have it as the dmz?
[05:25] <Tixer> it's over a lan
[05:25] <Tixer> I can SSH or VNC into it, but once on it, I can only ping my computer and the router. all other sites don't respond.
[05:26] <Tixer> I assumed it was a dns issue, but I can't even access IPs like <IP_ADDRESS> or a couple other I tried.
[05:26] <maxamillion> Tixer: and you can't ping <IP_ADDRESS>?
[05:26] <Tixer> nope
[05:26] <Tixer> it says "Network is unreachable"
[05:28] <Tixer> however, if I ping the router, or my computer (the one I'm sshing from), both reply
[05:28] <gaurdro> while connected to it does a web browser connect to the outside world
[05:29] <Tixer> nope
[05:30] <maxamillion> Tixer: are you running firestarter or have some custom iptables configuration that might not be allowing traffic?
[05:30] <gaurdro> This sounds like a router misconfiguration to me.  did the router change at all?
[05:31] <Tixer> nope
[05:31] <Tixer> and other computers on the router still have access.
[05:31] <gaurdro> any recent power glitches?
[05:31] <Tixer> firestarter isn't installed, but iptables is, and isn't used.
[05:32] <Tixer> correction: iptables isn't installed any more.
[05:33] <maxamillion> Tixer: you can't uninstall iptables ... its built into the kernel
[05:34] <maxamillion> ahhh!!!! $199 iBook G3 on macofalltrades.com
[05:34] <Tixer> tell that to my server, which now gives me "/sbin/iptables" not found
[05:34] <maxamillion> errr... wrong channel
[05:35] <maxamillion> Tixer: that's just an admin tool ... but the actual iptables implementation has to do with the packet filter rules of the kernel
[05:35] <Tixer> yeah
[05:35] <Tixer> but there aren't any rules now, so there's no chance that's causing it.
[05:35] <maxamillion> Tixer: i think the fact that you don't have it *could* be a problem
[05:37] <Tixer> that wouldn't explain why I can get to my router / my computer.
[05:38] <gaurdro> it's following the only path it has.
[05:38] <Tixer> hmmm
[05:39] <Tixer> so I just turned on a wifi card the machine has.
[05:39] <Tixer> wlan0 can get to the tubes.
[05:39] <Tixer> but eth0 can't.
[05:40] <maxamillion> Tixer: right, but there's *no* rules ... not even ALLOW ALL
[05:40] <maxamillion> well ... wait, i guess if it were to kill connections it would kill both inbound and outbound ... and wouldn't ... nvm
[05:40] <maxamillion> i'm a moron, don't listen to me
[05:41] <gaurdro>  no iptables would just freak out when it's trying to route an outbound connection.  the router/dns  is handling the inbound connection for it.
[05:42] <Tixer> hmmm
[05:42] <Tixer> it isn't a router problem, because i can use the wifi card to connect to the router and go on the tubes
[05:47] <gaurdro> it still may be something on the wired side of the router.  (most routers handle wifi and wired seperately).  try rebooting the router.
[05:48] <gaurdro> also,  are you using dhcp or fixed ip's?
[05:48] <Tixer> static ips
[05:49] <gaurdro> has anything recently changed with the setup?
[05:50] <Tixer> nope
[05:51] <gaurdro> anything at all,  new ip from your isp,  upgraded any system,   changed physical ports on any router, system?
[05:51] <Tixer> ummm....
[05:51] <Tixer> >.>
[05:52] <Tixer> new ips (dynamic ip), upgraded to 8.04, added like, 3 more wifi cards, removed 2 wifi cards, and yeah.
[05:54] <Tixer> essentially, I had a server with like, 4 wifi cards going at once, all using different APs.
[05:55] <Tixer> I got bored, and wanted to see how many of my neighbours access points I could steal at once.
[05:56] <gaurdro> that's probably the issue,  try disabling all the wifi cards and rebooting.
[05:58] <Tixer> I've removed all of them except one.
[05:58] <Tixer> which I just turned off with ifconfig down
[06:00] <Tixer> and I still have the issue on eth0
[06:00] <Tixer> I'll try switching eth0 to dhcp
[06:00] <gaurdro> i would install iptables and see if there's anything interesting.
[06:00] <Tixer> how would I go about doing that?
[06:01] <Tixer> (not the installing part, the "seeing if there's anything interesting part)
[06:04] <gaurdro> sudo iptables -L
[06:05] <gaurdro> I dunno if sudo is required,  on my box it is. but i have a weird setup/
[06:12] <bjron> hrm, I'm not getting resolutions over 600x800 on a new xubuntu install - how do I fix that?
[06:12] <gaurdro> it'll be a setting in the xorg.conf to do it directly but i dunno if there's a better way to set it.
[06:12] <Tixer> hmmm, so I just lost all contact with eth0
[06:13] <Tixer> time to salvage this over wifi
[06:13] <gaurdro> maybe it's simply a bad nic
[06:13] <gaurdro> how much of a load is it subject to?  is it a card or integrated?
[06:14] <Tixer> integrated :(
[06:14] <Tixer> load: just about nothing.
[06:14] <bjron> gaurdro: usually I'd 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' but it's no longer giving me resolution choices, so I thought mb something changed wrt how it deals w/ resolution issues
[06:22] <gaurdro> Tixer,  I'd try a card nic and see if it solves the problem.
[06:22] <Tixer> ummm, well, I just lost contact with the machine
[06:22] <Tixer> ugh, I really don't want to have to go down to my basement.
[06:23] <gaurdro> good you know where the box is.  that's a reallly good first step.
[06:23] <gaurdro> bjron,  would you pastebin your xorg.conf?
[06:24] <bjron> yea, one sec. .
[06:24] <Tixer> dam, I wish I had photos of my setup with me.
[06:24] <Tixer> except they're on my web server >.>
[06:24] <Tixer> trust me, a picture is worth a thousand words.
[06:26] <bjron> gaurdro: http://pastebin.com/d3676636e
[06:26] <bjron> thinking it might be just that the monitor I have hooked up is old and doesn't report supported resolutions very well . ..
[06:27]  * bjron wonders if he can find the analog cable for his newer monitor
[06:29] <gaurdro> hmm,  there's no screen section and it's not reporting the model of monitor attached.  it might be worth a hand configuring of the file,  look up the specs for your monitor and enter it in.  of course, back up the current one before editing it.
[06:29] <bjron> gaurdro: aye
[06:29] <gaurdro> wait,  i'm a idiot, try Xorg -configure first.
[06:30] <bjron> problem is this box isn't for me
[06:30] <gaurdro> but with the backup first.
[06:30] <bjron> so this isn't the monitor that'll be attached in the future
[06:30] <gaurdro> hmm,  is the future monitor newer?
[06:30] <bjron> most likely
[06:31] <bjron> actually, yea for sure it will be
[06:32] <bjron> but I don't actually know (it's for my great aunt, my uncle bought her a gOS machine, it wasn't working for her, she sent it to me, I decided gOS sucked [plus the recovery cd had errors] so I put xubuntu on it)
[06:33] <bjron> haven't had a chance to call her yet and see what she's got, but I assume it's probably a new lcd type thing - probably came w/ the box, but she didn't send that
[06:34] <gaurdro> does it have a serial number,  you might be able to look it up through support.
[06:35] <bjron> hmm, yea probably does, good thought
[06:36] <bjron> hrm, nope, the invoice I have is just for the box, not the monitory
[06:36] <bjron> I'll try w/ my other monitor and if it works I won't worry about it
[06:37] <Tixer> so I'm giving up on my server for tonight.
[06:37] <gaurdro> good idea,  if there's a problem  you can always send her a script that will make the necisary changes.  I'm assuming she's just a user.
[06:37] <bjron> yup
[06:38] <bjron> probably could use it in 600x800 ok too
[06:38] <Tixer> I'll try to hook it up to a keyboard mouse and monitor tomorrow.
[06:38] <Tixer> the current monitor / kb isn't exactly working,
[06:38] <bjron> just that some stuff (eg settings dialogues) don't fit all that well
[06:39] <Tixer> the monitor currently on my server is a 5" 320x240 PS1 screen, running at 1280x1024
[06:39] <Tixer> as you can imagine, it's like looking at a cracker.
[06:39] <gaurdro> please tell me it's situated in a coke machine.
[06:39] <Tixer> I wish :(
[06:40] <Tixer> it's sitting atop a washing machine.
[06:40] <Tixer> and the keyboard down there broke two days ago... it lacks both control keys.
[06:40] <gaurdro> psh,  who needs the ctrl key,  use your mad ascii skillz
[06:40] <Tixer> "hmmm, there's crap in the keyboard... let's give it a bath."
  I let it dry and it works fine.
[06:42] <gaurdro> bjron,  good to hear it.
[06:42] <Tixer> gaudro: mine has a capacitor inside, because it's got leds and bling.
[06:43] <Tixer> alas, it didn't make it through the bubbles.
[06:43] <bjron> that's probably - now that I think of it, why ubuntu and x always has such a hard time auto setting up my dual head setup, since the old crt doesn't report its resolution etc.  Always end up having to manually configure.  I should just get another new flatscreen :p
[06:44] <gaurdro> ?  so does mine,  it's not backlit but it has it's share of led's,  do you have like a ceramic cap added to it?
[06:45] <Tixer> nope
[07:16] <sinzmanual> hye
[07:17] <sinzmanual> can i know the default login for xubuntu livecd ?
[07:19] <zoredache> didn't it automatically login?
[07:20] <sinzmanual> nope
[07:20] <zoredache> are you sure you got booted to the livecd?
[07:21] <sinzmanual> im sure :)
[07:21] <ere4si> if that happens with the ubuntu live cd the login is ubuntu and the password is blank so try that
[07:21] <sinzmanual> have tried
[07:21] <sinzmanual> see,the same problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=755415
[07:22] <sinzmanual> have try with blank,admin/admin,root/blank,
[07:23] <Kaemon12433> fianlly got xubuntu to run fast
[07:23] <Kaemon12433> *whew*
[07:24] <ere4si> I suggested    ubuntu/blank    sinzmanual
[07:24] <sinzmanual> ok.will try after reboot this win98 ^^
[07:24] <ere4si> good luck :)
[07:25] <sinzmanual> have u try ?
[07:26] <ere4si> sinzmanual: I've never had that issue but have seen it posted as the solution several times and no one came back and complained :)
[07:26] <sinzmanual> orait..thx ya
[07:27] <ere4si> k
[07:42] <sinzmanual> not working la ubuntu/blank
[07:47] <ere4si> sinzmanual: did you try   xubuntu/blank   ?
[07:48] <ere4si> and have you done the md5 check on the cd?
[07:56] <sinzmanual> not yet.
[07:56] <sinzmanual> but when to install xubuntu,im stuck
[07:57] <sinzmanual> my pc is celeron
[07:57] <ere4si> !md5 | sinzmanual
[07:57] <ere4si> !lag
[07:59] <ere4si> sinzmanual: it isn't your comp - you need to do the md5 check on the iso before you burn and on the cd after
[07:59] <sinzmanual> ok.thx.will try
[08:04] <sinzmanual> md5 not match la
[08:17] <ere4si> that'll be it then sinzmanual ...
[08:31] <zoredache> Does anyone know why nm-tool is reporting my wireless as connected before it is connected in hardy?
 Have you tryd to as mamma Google about it?
[08:46] <makiavelli> *ask
[09:35] <dee_cz> hi.. my desktop in xfce dissapeared, any idea whats going on?
[10:01] <MiKa^> problem here... xubuntu turns off my monitor after a period of time (10-20 mins... not too sure...) anyway to prevent this?
[10:44] <MiKa^> ode to joy!
[10:44] <MiKa^> oops sorry wrong channel.
[11:35] <alado2> anybody know how i can get the media keys on my keyboard to work in xubuntu?
[11:45] <alado2> can i somehow change the xubuntu "splash screen" that turns up while xubuntu starts up, the one that says xubuntu and shows the rat
[11:48] <voodoo> yes
[11:48] <voodoo> settings / settings manger
[11:49] <voodoo> splash screen
[11:50] <alado2> im not sure but i thnk thats another splash screen
[11:50] <alado2> im talking about the one before that one
[11:51] <voodoo> boot splash screen
[11:51] <voodoo> oh, i understand
[11:51] <alado2> between bios post and the login
[11:52] <voodoo> i know how to disable it :)
[11:52] <alado2> there must be a image file somewhere, but i cant seem to find it
[11:52] <voodoo> check usplash
[11:52] <voodoo> and
[11:52] <voodoo> xubuntu-artwork-usplash
[11:56] <alado2> ok, found some info now, thnx!
[11:56] <Abominus69> Hello, after I upgraded to the new distribution today (8.04 LTS), my previously working second hard drive is now no longer appearing on my desktop.  How can I add it back?  Thanks.
[11:59] <alado2> i had the same problem, and still have, but i just created a mountpoint in fstab and made a shortcut to that on my desktop
[12:00] <alado2> in other words, it doesnt turn up as a "drive" anymore, it loads into that mountpoint (folder)
[12:00] <Abominus69> Yeah, have just found a page talking about that.  Will attempt it now.
[12:02] <alado2> i just added "/dev/sda2 /home/me/hdd2 ext3 user 0 0" to fstab
[12:04] <alado2> after you mounted it you can then right click on that mountpoint in Thunar and choose "send to" -> "side pane" and it will also turn up in Places
[12:05] <alado2> im not a big fan of this solution, i rather would have it turning up as a normal drive, but this is the best i came up with
[12:09] <voodoo> any good console news reader?
[12:09] <Abominus69> What do you use as your simple text editor for things such as fstab?  vi is driving me nuts.
[12:10] <MiKa^> mousepad or nano
[12:10] <MiKa^> mousepad would be your usual notepad in windows
[12:10] <voodoo> Abominus69, vim ;) or mcedit or pico
[12:11] <Abominus69> Ahhhhhhh.  That makes life so much better.  Death to vi.  Hooray to mousepad which works fine.  Cheers.
[12:11] <MiKa^> cheers
[12:18] <Abominus69> Is there a way to get my Pc to run fstab again without rebooting?  I'm trying mounting stuff.
[12:19] <Abominus69> Nevermind, I'll just reboot.   If anybody has been using DSL they have something like that
[12:45] <the_alamo> i like using gthumb to browse my movie collection but i can't figure out where to change the default app it uses to open the files.  does anyone know?
[12:52] <MiKa^> try this: right click on file > open with other application > click the application in the menu/type it in the box > tick set as default app
[12:55] <ThistleWeb> hey guys, anyone here have access to the xubuntu site to make a correction?
[12:58] <the_alamo> MiKa^, i don't seem to have a box that i can tick to set the default app
[12:58] <MiKa^> hmm
[12:59] <MiKa^> my xubuntu desktop isnt on now so i can only helpy u from my memory
[12:59] <MiKa^> help*
[13:00] <the_alamo> the default for gthumb right now is vlc and i am pretty sure that i set it to that but maybe the upgrade from gutsy to hardy removed that ability
[13:00] <the_alamo> i don't know why it would though
[13:04] <the_alamo> i am going to remove vlc and see what happens.
[13:07] <the_alamo> well it has reverted back to the default i want
[13:08] <the_alamo> i will reinstall vlc some other day and see what happens!!
[13:08] <the_alamo> MiKa^, thanks for the help
[13:08] <MiKa^> no probs
[13:33] <grothesk> Hi!
[13:33] <grothesk> Are there any known issues upgrading xubuntu from dapper to hardy?
[13:34] <grothesk> There are almost no 3rd-party-packages in dapper, just some codecs, I guess.
[13:48] <gabkdlly> grothesk: you can search on launchpad for bugs relating to hardy
[13:49] <grothesk> O.K.    I just thought there might be reports of a 'general issue' when upgrading from dapper to hardy. Will do so tomorrow then.
[13:49] <gabkdlly> I personally experienced system crashes when upgrading from gutsy
[13:55] <grothesk> During upgrade of afterwards?
[14:00] <wallybuntu> why is it that every time i try to start firefox on this old laptop i get a message that its already running and i need to close it to open a new window?  i cant launch firefox at all.... arrrrrrgggggghhhhhhhh.....
[14:02] <grothesk> wallybuntu: killall firefox
[14:03] <grothesk> Enter it into a terminal
[14:03] <wallybuntu> grothesk, thanks will try that, but isn't this sound like some kind of bug, that it does this repeatedly on startup?
[14:04] <grothesk> No. There might be a process hanging in the background.
[14:04] <grothesk> It will be restored even after a reboot.
[14:04] <wallybuntu> ok, i go try; thanks
[14:06] <charding> Has anyone tried the install of thre b43 firmware after installed 8.04?
[14:06] <Odd-rationale> charding: I have and it works
[14:07] <charding> were you using ndiswrapper before?
[14:09] <Odd-rationale> charding: no
[14:11] <charding> Odd-rationale: So after installing the firmware in /lib/firmware/, the loading of the card worked right after..?
[14:13] <Odd-rationale> charding: yes. pretty much.
[14:20] <gabkdlly> grothesk: after the upgrades. I was not the only one, there is a bug filed on launchpad about it. It seems to have something to do with the new kernel on some hardwares
[14:23] <grothesk> gabkdlly: thx
[14:49] <wallybuntu> hmmmmm, having a sound problem and wanted to paste it up, but, what happened to the paste-bin?  doesn't seem to be at that link anymore.
[14:51] <luxurien> hi - bonjour
[15:01] <Stroganoff> wallybuntu: google -> pastebin. there are hundreds..
[15:05] <xxxxxxx> I installed ubuntu using a sub drive now it will not boot unless the usb drive is present can I fix this?
[15:35] <platyhelminth> Hi How to edit the menu in Xubuntu (like we can do in Ubuntu)
[16:00] <Kaemon12433> hey umm i'm having some trouble
[16:01] <Kaemon12433> The trouble is that the master computer is xubuntu
[16:01] <Kaemon12433> and the other computers are windows
[16:01] <Kaemon12433> they cant get a internet connection
[16:01] <Kaemon12433> only the ones that ar ealready connected
[16:01] <Kaemon12433> not new conections
[16:02] <maxamillion> can you be more specific ... what do you mean by "new connections"?
[16:02] <cody-somerville> Xubuntu Ubuntu Open Week presentation starting in #ubuntu-classroom
[16:03] <Kaemon12433> New computers trying to connect to the internet
[16:03] <Kaemon12433> It's a network setup
[16:03] <Kaemon12433> and they cant connect for some reason
[16:03] <Kaemon12433> i checked the cords and everything.
[16:04] <Kaemon12433> what do i do?
[16:05] <Stroganoff> xubuntu is the router?
[16:05] <Kaemon12433> well
[16:05] <Kaemon12433> ummm
[16:05] <Kaemon12433> this computer used to be xp
[16:06] <Kaemon12433> which is the master computer and all
[16:06] <Kaemon12433> its connected to the router
[16:06] <Stroganoff> what is a master computer? ;)
[16:06] <Kaemon12433> this one
[16:06] <Stroganoff> the other machines are not connected to the router but to the "master pc"
[16:07] <Kaemon12433> this is going to be difficult....
[16:07] <Kaemon12433> the other machines ARE conected to the router
[16:07] <Kaemon12433> WAIT
[16:07] <Stroganoff> k
[16:07] <Kaemon12433> since this has xubuntu installed
[16:07] <Kaemon12433> it used to have sbc software and all ya know
[16:07] <Kaemon12433> but it does'nt have that anymore
[16:08] <Kaemon12433> it's just another computer connected to the web!
[16:08] <Kaemon12433> i mean
[16:08] <Kaemon12433> to hte router
[16:08] <Kaemon12433> ugh
[16:08] <Stroganoff> try 'ipconfig /refresh' on the xp machines
[16:08] <Kaemon12433> k
[16:08] <Stroganoff> if tcp/ip is set up for "automatically assigned"
[16:08] <Kaemon12433> in the command terminal right
[16:08] <Kaemon12433> k
[16:08] <Kaemon12433> brb
[16:09] <Stroganoff> no wait
[16:09] <Stroganoff> it is ipconfig /renew
[16:09] <Kaemon12433> ok
[16:09] <Kaemon12433> brb
[16:09] <Kaemon12433> this command should work right?
[16:10] <Stroganoff> it broadcasts DHCP request..
[16:10] <Kaemon12433> ok
[16:10] <Kaemon12433> man i'm so glad xubuntu gives out help
[16:10] <Kaemon12433> well gives help when peopel need it
[16:11] <Kaemon12433> brb computer is back on
[16:11] <Kaemon12433> gonna  try it
[16:12] <Kaemon12433> got an error message !
[16:12] <Kaemon12433> it says
[16:12] <Kaemon12433> no adapters bound to tcp/ip are enabled for dhcp
[16:12] <Kaemon12433> now what do i do
[16:14] <Kaemon12433> ...umm you there?.
[16:15] <Stroganoff> yep
[16:15] <bullium> is the border on the newest release 8.04 LTS a theme or some other setting/configuration?
[16:15] <bullium> the thin border on the menu
[16:15] <Kaemon12433> ok can you still help
[16:15] <Stroganoff> control panel -> network connections -> LAN connection -> TCP/IP Internet Protocoll -> Settings -> assign automatically
[16:15] <Kaemon12433> k
[16:15] <Kaemon12433> brb i'll do it now
[16:16] <Stroganoff> bullium should be related to the gtk2 theme
[16:17] <bullium> Stroganoff: ok, I thought ubuntu's gnome menu's looked the same on one of the RC's of 8.04. It must not have made it to the final release?
[16:17] <Stroganoff> i dont know nothing about it :D
[16:19] <Kaemon12433> ok stroganoff
[16:19] <Kaemon12433> it's set to that already
[16:19] <Kaemon12433> i jus found out
[16:20] <Kaemon12433> when i tried to set it up
[16:20] <Kaemon12433> the option to connect to lan
[16:20] <Kaemon12433> is NOT avaliable!!
[16:21] <Stroganoff> maybe there's some network bridge you set up earlier?
[16:21] <Kaemon12433> hmm
[16:21] <Stroganoff> anyway try asking in #windows
[16:21] <Stroganoff> i dont see yet the relation to xubuntu
[16:22] <floating> krlkrlrkkrlr
[16:24] <Kaemon12433> still not working
[16:24] <Kaemon12433> *sigh*
[16:24] <Kaemon12433> :(
[16:26] <Stroganoff> uninstall tcp/ip internet protocoll and reinstall it again (in the preferences of the local connection)
[16:26] <Kaemon12433> FOUND THE PROBLEM
[16:26] <Stroganoff> k ;)
[16:26] <Kaemon12433> the hardware was'nt installed!
[16:26] <Kaemon12433> brb
[16:26] <Stroganoff> -.-
[16:26] <Kaemon12433> thank you so much
[16:34] <platyhelminth> hi, Why i cant see the other partitions with Xubuntu 8.04 (when i can with Ubuntu 8.04) ? Do i need special libs ?
[16:36] <Stroganoff> you need thunar-volman
[16:37] <Stroganoff> should be installed per default.
[16:39] <platyhelminth> it is installed but I dont see the other partitions
[16:41] <Stroganoff> find out the devices of your other partitions and add entries to /etc/fstab like this
[16:42] <Stroganoff> /dev/sda1 /media/c ntfs-3g users,auto,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=007 0 0
[16:43] <Stroganoff> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[18:20] <cheeseboy> hi im on xubuntu. I connect to internet wirelessly and I want to setup bridge through my ethernet card to my xbox. Anyone know how?
[18:47] <cheeseboy> anyone here help with networking?
[18:50] <cody-somerville> cheeseboy, Use firestarter
[18:53] <maxamillion> cheeseboy: firestarter has a wizard that will bridge the connection for you as well as manage the dhcp daemon to offer ip address leasing
[18:58] <emdash> oh my god
[18:59] <emdash> i'm so dissapointed with ubuntu
[18:59] <gNewPower>  hi, I just installed the new Ubuntu 8.04 and my xmms is gone. which application best replaces it?
[18:59] <emdash> i cannot even get X11 to start with fglrx drivers
[18:59] <emdash> this is a serious regression
[19:01] <Stroganoff> gNewPower: audacious
[19:01] <Stroganoff> emdash, reinstall hardy and try envy
[19:01] <Stroganoff> http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[19:01] <gNewPower> Stroganoff: thanks! is xmms2 something different alltogether?
[19:01] <Stroganoff> gNewPower yes
[19:02] <gNewPower> Stroganoff: thanks for the info.
[19:19] <Finnisher> Yeah hi, I was wondering if it was possible to encrypt my xubuntu installation that resides on my laptop to protect it from spying eyes?
[19:21] <Finnisher> Latest TrueCrypt provides system encryption but I was disappointed to find out that it only applied to systems running Windows. Perhaps there's a similar tool for Linux? Just encrypting the personal user files would be plenty.
[19:21] <emdash> Stroganoff: i'm tempted to switch to another distro, actually
[19:21] <zoredache> Finnisher: if you install via the alternate installer you can setup whole-disk encryption
[19:21] <emdash> i've been waiting patiently for months
[19:21] <Stroganoff> fglrx can be a pain
[19:22] <emdash> it worked fine in 7.04
[19:22] <zoredache> when you get to the paritioner choose 'encrypted lvm'
[19:22] <emdash> since then things have only gotten worse
[19:22] <Finnisher> oh, I see, thanks
[19:22] <emdash> or was it 6.10?
[19:23] <emdash> in any case, it's been a long, long time and I honestly feel like ubuntu's standards have dropped, particularly for laptop users
[19:23] <Finnisher> but if I didn't do that when I installed my OS, there's no way to encrypt post-install?
[19:24] <Stroganoff> Finnisher use truecrypt
[19:24] <zoredache> Finnisher: you can encrypt files post install..  You can created encrypted volumes
[19:24] <Finnisher> system encryption is not available in linux
[19:25] <Stroganoff> Finnisher encrypting the home folder (rather parts of it) is enough, isnt it?
[19:25] <zoredache> you can even setup the dm-crypt post install but it is very complex, not well tested, and fairly likely to fail resulting in everything going away
[19:26] <Finnisher> hm, rather than creating a container file to fill my whole home folder I'd love to transparently encrypt the home folder itself
[19:28] <Stroganoff> creating a container, moving the home folder into it and automounting the container at /home is exactly the same.
[19:28] <Finnisher> I see
[19:29] <zoredache> my vote is still for reinstall and use lvm....  Your hesistance to reinstall is giving me the impression that you don't have a good backup system...  If you don't have a good backup system in my opinion you should not be looking at encryption
[19:30] <Stroganoff> well spoken :D
[19:30] <Finnisher> my hesitance to reinstall results directly from the partially broken CD drive that sometimes takes 20 minutes to boot from a CD, even then I use the miniCD because alternate install CD will just end up corrupted
[19:31] <Finnisher> I don't plan to save any crucial data on the laptop, just personal data, and in case the laptop ever got stolen or anything I'd prefer people being unable to take a look at what I have in there
[19:32] <Stroganoff> http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/
[19:32] <zoredache> I guess I have a differen't opinion of my 'personal' data.  I think it IS crucial.
[19:33] <zoredache> anyway, if you are having problems with your optical drive you could setup a usb key or netboot if have a spare usb drive or computer
[19:33] <Finnisher> yes, well I have a desktop computer for my daily usage and a laptop for "fun and games"
[19:34] <Finnisher> also because I'm not too experienced with linux systems I use the laptop to learn
[19:35] <Finnisher> and regarding the usb boot, I doubt that the ancient BIOS supports that - seeing how the only boot options are floppy, cd and hdd
[19:36] <zoredache> so anyway your choices still are using something like truecrypt (or aes loopback) to build a file as an encrryption container... or reinstall and use the encrypted lvm...
[19:36] <zoredache> the ability to do encryption is on the mini.iso as well
[19:36] <Finnisher> ok, I'll consider these options...
[19:36] <Finnisher> silly of me to have missed that encryption option when I was installing the OS last time...
[19:37] <zoredache> as I mentioned there is a possibility to convert a system using a tool, but to use that tool you basically have to boot off a livecd
[19:39] <Finnisher> well about that encrypted LVS...
[19:39] <Finnisher> what method of authentication does it use?
[19:40] <Finnisher> is there some faq I could read somewhere?
[19:40] <zoredache> when you turn on your computer you are challenged for a password
[19:40] <zoredache> or as an alternate option you can put a keyfile onto a usb stick
[19:41] <zoredache> the dm-crypt page is http://www.saout.de/misc/dm-crypt/
[19:43] <zoredache> I think the debian guide has some information that would apply  http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch07s02.html.en#mount-dm-crypt
[19:44] <zoredache> and also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemHowto
[19:45] <Finnisher> and this dm-crypt is used when I select encrypted LVS?
[19:45] <zoredache> that is lvm, not lvs... and yes
[19:46] <Finnisher> yes..
[19:47] <zoredache> basically what the install does is creates a small uncrypted /boot partition, and one big partition.  It encryptes the big partition via dm-crypt then setups up lvm within the encrypted volume, and uses lvm to break that volume up into partitions
[19:48] <zoredache> there are lots more links here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/?action=fullsearch&value=encryptedfilesystem
[19:50] <zoredache> of course most of those go into a lot of detail that you don't need to know if you want to simply use the option in the installer
[19:50] <Finnisher> perhaps the most painless solution (despite the broken optical drive) is to just reinstall the system...
[19:56] <Vinni3> hi
[20:04] <Finnisher> haha, as soon as I finish burning a new miniCD the laptop boots from the old miniCD
[20:07] <zoredache> of course...
[20:10] <amel47> join #ubuntu
[21:02] <Finnisher> alllright....
[21:03] <Finnisher> well reinstalling the xubuntu with encryption didn't go without a hitch
[21:03] <Finnisher> I have ran into the same problem I experienced when I tried to install xubuntu over freebsd
[21:03] <Finnisher> that is, the GRUB won't install
[21:04] <Finnisher> last time I resolved the problem by erasing the first few sectors of the hard drive with a hard drive wiping utility
[21:06]  * Finnisher curses
[21:07] <Finnisher> I have never, ever had to remove the previous operating system before installing a new one
[21:07] <Finnisher> ...until now
[21:09] <ere4si> are you having a dual boot issue?
[21:09] <Finnisher> ..no
[21:09] <Finnisher> I'm trying to reinstall xubuntu
[21:09] <Finnisher> didn't know I had to erase my hard drive before I reinstall -_-
[21:10] <ere4si> formatting the partitions during install should have removed anything on them
[21:10] <Finnisher> well, the problem remains - I can't install grub unless I remove the old bootloaders via some hdd-wiping tool
[21:11] <ere4si> grub rewrites the mbr - doen't matter if something is on it or not
[21:11] <Finnisher> that's what it should do anyway, but the grub installation fails
[21:12] <ere4si> does grub give an error number??
[21:12] <RSXRR> And if GRUB have to be installe on a different partition (non crypted poartition) ???
[21:12] <Finnisher> I'm using the ubuntu 8 miniCD to install xubuntu and it ....
[21:12] <Finnisher> wow
[21:12] <Finnisher> third time's the charm
[21:12] <Finnisher> it worked
[21:12] <Finnisher> just have to keep trying
[21:12] <ere4si> k
[21:12] <ere4si> :)
[21:13] <RSXRR> good for you...
[21:13] <Finnisher> hm, when it asks if the system clock is set to UTC, imo it should display the time system clock has, right now I have no idea what time the system clock is in....
[21:14] <RSXRR> check bois on start...
[21:14] <RSXRR> bios!
[21:14] <ere4si> select  no  for utc
[21:15] <Finnisher> yes, I did select no for utc... anyway, I can change this later, right?
[21:15] <ere4si> yep
[21:15] <Finnisher> also, apparently my bios date fails cutoff date for acpi. I know my bios supports acpi, where do I enable it?
[21:16] <ere4si> there might be an option in the bios - but it really isn't that necessary
[21:17] <Finnisher> uhh, xubuntu doesn't even try using acpi because it assumes my bios doesn't support it because it is so old, or at least that is what I gathered
[21:18] <Finnisher> I figured being able to use acpi would be good because the system is a laptop with a battery
[21:19] <ere4si> to get most older laptops to use linux a boot command turning acpi off is needed - I wouldn't worry about it
[21:20] <Finnisher> oh, ok
[21:20] <ere4si> I'm off to work - good luck
[21:20] <Finnisher> ok cya
[21:27] <madakacherry> I was needing some help with hotkeys
[21:27] <madakacherry> and since I am very new at xubuntu I need all the help I can get
[21:34] <zoredache> and your question is?
[21:38] <Finnisher> I'm now in the process of configuring wvdial to use my mobile phone for 3G internet connection. It works, I even remembered the Init strings correctly, yay me, but now I'd like to be able to use OpenDNS instead of my ISP DNS servers. I have specified OpenDNS servers in network settings but wvdial ignores these settings.      tl;dr: setting custom DNS servers in wvdial?
[21:41] <Finnisher> currently in process of rtfm
[21:43] <zoredache> does it say how wvdial gets the ip address?  is it using dhclient, pump, or something of its own?
[21:44] <zoredache> if it is something like dhclient then you might want to look at that.  I am pretty sure there is a configuration setting to ignore certain dhcp options
[21:48] <Odd-rationale> The way I did it was I edit my /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf file and added the following line in the beginning:
[21:48] <Odd-rationale> prepend domain-name-servers <IP_ADDRESS>,<IP_ADDRESS>;
[21:54] <jimmy51vinsky> hello, i've got xubuntu 8.04 running, installed compiz-fusion, and now i have no window title bars (i think window decoration)
[21:54] <jimmy51vinsky> what do i do?
[21:55] <Finnisher> thanks Odd-rationale
[21:55] <Odd-rationale> Finnisher: np
[21:56] <Odd-rationale> jimmy51vinsky: you may need to install emerald, the window decorator of compiz
[21:56] <zoredache> jimmy51vinsky: run 'xfwm4' in a terminal or 'alt-f2' box
[21:57] <zoredache> or that
[21:57] <jimmy51vinsky> output: warning, another window manager is already running
[21:57] <jimmy51vinsky> emerald is installed
[21:57] <jimmy51vinsky> it looks like xfwm4 is the current manager, instead of emeraled?
[21:58] <zoredache> xfwm4 is the xfce windows manager...
[21:59] <jimmy51vinsky> do i want that to be running?
[21:59] <zoredache> if you want to give up on compiz then yes...  If you want to get compiz working now
[21:59] <zoredache> no*
[22:00] <jimmy51vinsky> ok
[22:00] <jimmy51vinsky> so how do i get compiz to be the default window manager?
[22:01] <jimmy51vinsky> (and get compiz to run on boot instead of typing compiz --replace in a terminal after login)
[22:02] <zoredache> I don't know anything about compis, but I was start reading about it here... -- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager
[22:03] <Finnisher> hm, editing the dhcp file had no effect on wvdial, perhaps I should reboot to reload the new settings?
[22:03] <jimmy51vinsky> ok
[22:03] <jimmy51vinsky> got a direction to go
[22:03] <jimmy51vinsky> thanks
[22:05] <jimmy51vinsky> HAHA
[22:05] <Odd-rationale> jimmy51vinsky: Wiat I got a link for you...
[22:05] <jimmy51vinsky> there's a window decoration checkbox in the effects settings
[22:05] <jimmy51vinsky> that did it
[22:05] <Odd-rationale> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=623752
[22:05] <Odd-rationale> ok nvm
[22:06] <jimmy51vinsky> i guess i should have checked with the stupid things first :)
[22:06] <jimmy51vinsky> adios!
[22:06] <jimmy51vinsky> (and thanks...)
[23:17] <PsynoKhi0> howdy
[23:19] <PsynoKhi0> I've had to do a couple of hard resets since the upgrade to Hardy (fresh resintall safe for /home): twice trying to play an AVI file - once in VLC, once in Totem - and one was while I was loading an OpenArena map
[23:20] <PsynoKhi0> the AVI crashed as soon as it started playing
[23:21] <PsynoKhi0> in all 3 cases the comp locked itself
[23:23] <PsynoKhi0> anyone having similar issues?
[23:26] <goppp-> hi any one know if vmware works in hardy
[23:35] <zoredache> I do know that I got a lot of errors when I tried setting it up, but I was also busy with something else so I ddidn't try and figure out why.
[23:36] <PsynoKhi1> make that 4 hard resets
[23:38] <zoredache> I had my computer reboot when I was playing something in miro last night PsynoKhi1 but I didn't have time to really figure what type of video it was or why.
[23:46] <PsynoKhi0> zoredache: oh... figured out what went south?
[23:47] <zoredache> no.  I don't know why and I am not on that computer


[01:42] <imnichol> Does anyone have any example code for making lists of items?  The code on developer.ubuntu.com doesn't work correctly when I run it using the sdk.
[01:44] <imnichol> Clarification: By "lists of items" I mean using QML
[02:02] <Guest34450> Hello, anyone have tried cordova to develop app? How to detect swipe gesture?
[03:22] <imnichol> Is there documentation for U1DB?  I don't think I understand how it works.
[03:23] <imnichol> Nevermind, found it here: http://pythonhosted.org/u1db/quickstart.html
[03:46] <imnichol> Nevermind again, it's basically useless for QML
[07:59] <dholbach> good morning
[09:33] <JamesTai1> Good morning all! :-D
[12:18] <nik90> zsombi: I finished the dialer transition for the clock app. https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/dialer-transition/+merge/200740
[12:19] <nik90> zsombi: When you have time, could you briefly go through it to see if the Dialer has been as you expected?
[12:19] <nik90> used as you expected*
[12:20] <zsombi> nik90: I will check it
[12:21] <nik90> thnx
[12:35] <ahayzen> timp, ping
[12:35] <timp> ahayzen: hello
[12:36] <ahayzen> timp, happy new year!.... could u reapprove this https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/fix-swipe-delete-001/+merge/199906
[12:36] <ahayzen> timp, we had to rerun Jenkins...but balloons didn't have permission to approve the MP
[12:37] <timp> ahayzen: done
[12:37] <timp> ahayzen: happy new year to you too :)
[12:37] <ahayzen> timp, thanks
[13:38] <balloons> timp, autolanding failed again it seems: https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/fix-swipe-delete-001/+merge/199906
[13:39] <balloons> https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-runner-mako/4469/
[13:40] <timp> balloons: looks to me like jenkins broke somehow
[13:41] <balloons> timp, I pinged ci
[13:41] <timp> balloons: ok
[13:42] <timp> balloons: in the meantime, can you merge trunk to that branch? it fixes a test failure that we may run into later
[13:42]  * timp bbl
[13:50] <balloons> timp, I'm not sure what you mean, but I linked you to some failing tests. I'm not sure what's going on, but CI says it looks fine
[13:54] <timp> balloons: for merging of trunk, I meant to "bzr merge lp:ubuntu-ui-toolkit", for a bugfix that is not related to the failures you're getting now.
[13:54] <timp> balloons: as for CI, I see *all* the tests failing on this:   File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/autopilot/introspection/__init__.py", line 299, in _get_dbus_addresses_from_search_parameters
[13:54] <timp>     % return_code
[13:55] <timp> balloons: its like the device failed to initialize something, or lost its network or sth...
[13:55] <balloons> timp, I don't have any powers in ubuntu-ui-toolkit
[13:55] <balloons> timp, ahh.. follow-up with cprov in #ubuntu-ci-eng
[13:55] <timp> balloons: cd fix-swipe-delete-001 && bzr merge lp:ubuntu-ui-toolkit && bzr commit -m "merge trunk" && bzr push
[13:55] <timp> ok
[13:56] <balloons> timp, yes, but it's andrew's branch not mine.. I can rebranch it, but I've gtg atm
[13:57] <timp> balloons: nevermind. we can try without when CI works. perhaps jenkins merges it properly already, if not I'll ask andrew
[14:18] <WebbyIT> Hey dpm, could you update calc app on the store?
[14:18] <WebbyIT> see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bug/1251548/comments/3
[14:18] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1251548 in Ubuntu Calculator App "Pressing decimal point before a digit prevents the user from pressing the decimal point button later on" [Undecided,Fix committed]
[14:27] <nik90> Does anyone know how to add multiple images to a Ubuntu Shape without losing the corner radius?
[14:27] <nik90> it seems that if I add a row of images inside the ubuntu shape, the corners become sharp.
[14:34] <timp> nik90: how do you do that? UbuntuShape has only one image property
[14:37] <nik90> timp: I know..but here is what I want to achieve http://ubuntuone.com/4Ucd06LiKHatFc6DnWV0vt
[14:38] <nik90> its a ubuntu shape where multiple album covers are present as per design
[14:38] <nik90> but I have no idea how to actually implement it
[14:39] <timp> nik90: hmm
[14:39] <timp> nik90: theoretically a ShaderEffectSource will work as the input for UbuntuShape, but currently the property type does not allow that
[14:40] <timp> loicm: ^ are there upcoming changes to UbuntuShape that allow to put Items inside it?
[14:43] <nik90> timp: okay
[14:44] <nik90> timp: atleast I can reason this out while proposing the MP and keep an eye out on the ubuntu shape feature set.
[14:47] <timp> nik90: you may want to track this bug - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1089595
[14:47] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1089595 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "[shape] UbuntuShape should shape more general Item-based components" [Wishlist,Triaged]
[14:49] <nik90> timp: thnx
[14:49] <timp> nik90: I linked your image in a commend for that bug
[15:39] <loicm> timp, nik90: yes, the best way to do that with the current (and also the upcoming) UbuntuShape is to render the desired image in an an offscreen buffer using a ShaderEffectSource and set the UbuntuShape::image using that ShaderEffectSource id (there might be some update issues with the current UbuntuShape though, to be checked)
[15:42] <dpm> popey, WebbyIT was requesting an update of the calculator app in the store earlier on, not sure if you saw it ^
[15:43] <popey> i did not
[15:43] <loicm> timp, nik90: the pile of covers (http://ubuntuone.com/4Ucd06LiKHatFc6DnWV0vt) can be rendered once without the need to be updated, so that should be fine
[15:43] <popey> dpm: will get it sorted
[15:43] <dpm> cool
[15:44] <loicm> timp, nik90: a fragment shader implemented in a ShaderEffect might be enough to render that pile correctly
[15:46] <nik90> loicm: wonderful
[15:48] <WebbyIT> dpm, popey, thanks :-)
[15:50] <nik90> loicm: I have never used fragment shader before. Would it be too much to ask for a sample app which combines two images? (pls)
[16:07] <loicm> nik90: if you've never used shaders before I guess you should just render that pile in the ShaderEffectSource using several QML Images, it will be much easier at the cost of slightly lower rendering speed and memory usage
[16:07] <loicm> nik90: that said to blend a texture over another one in a fragment shader, you should do something like that:
[16:07] <loicm> vec4 color1 = texture2D(tex1, coord1);
[16:07] <loicm> vec4 color2 = texture2D(tex2, coord2);
[16:07] <loicm> color1 + vec4(1.0 - color1.a) * color2;
[16:07] <loicm> nik90: to blend color1 on top of color2 using a SourceOver Porter/Duff operator
[16:12] <nik90> loicm: alrite. will try out both methods
[16:31] <timp> loicm: I thought that setting shadereffectsource as input doesn't work because the type of the property is Image. But I didn't try it, and besides the property type there are no restrictions that would stop it from working.
[16:32] <loicm> timp: the name is misleading, the type is Item :)
[16:33] <loicm> timp: will be fixed in the upcoming one with the name changed to "source"
[16:33] <timp> loicm: ahh. true. I misread. "Item" has some letters in common with "Image" ;)
[16:34] <timp> loicm: cool.
[16:58] <nik90> loicm: I tried using the shadereffectsource in a sample app -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6715798/
[16:58] <nik90> however it shows up as a black image in the ubuntu shape
[16:59] <nik90> while the originial image appears fine
[16:59] <nik90> loicm: am I using the shadereffectsource wrong?
[17:13] <loicm> nik90: it doesn't seem so, that might be the issue pointed out by the bug :/
[17:14] <loicm> nik90: I'll try to take a look at the issue ASAP
[17:23] <timp> nik90, loicm the ShaderEffectSource doesn't have width/height. perhaps setting that helps
[17:46] <ahayzen> balloons, ping
[17:46] <balloons> ahayzen, pong
[17:46] <balloons> ahayzen, timp and I had fun this morning
[17:46] <ahayzen> balloons, sorry to bother u, u seen this? https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/fix-swipe-delete-001/+merge/199906/comments/466860
[17:48] <ahayzen> balloons, seems to have failed badly on mako?
[17:48] <balloons> ahayzen, yes I've seen it
[17:48] <ahayzen> balloons, wht were u and timp having fun with?
[17:48] <balloons> your merghe
[17:49] <ahayzen> balloons, ah lol
[17:50] <ahayzen> balloons, so wht is the issue? is it my end or the ci end?
[17:51] <balloons> unsure.. I left it.. I'm trying to see what they discovered
[17:51] <ahayzen> ah ok :)
[22:43] <ahayzen> Hi, is there anyway to make an object not within a sheet, to stay on top of the sheet when opened?
[23:38] <nik90> timp: you were right about the width/height missing the shadereffectsource. It now works! Thnx!
[23:38] <nik90> loicm: ^^
[23:48] <loicm> nik90: excellent
[23:53] <loicm> nik90: don't forget to set "hideSource" to true on the ShaderEffectSource, also the ShaderEffectSource itself shouldn't be visible I guess (but I'm not sure with regards to the current UbuntuShape implementation)