[03:45] <kunji> bazhang: I had tried something like this before, but I was more of a noob then, though still a noob now I might get this right this time, I'll try this blacklisting out.
[03:45] <IndyGunFreak> well, i knew what i meant to type, but it was not forwarded to my fingers properly, so the output was wrong
[03:45] <soreau> IndyGunFreak: Ah :)
[03:46] <ScottG> IndyGunFreak: Nah, I guess after sdz it goes to sdaa, and so on until you get to 256 disks
[03:46] <IndyGunFreak> so what happens afer 256disks?
[03:46] <murlidhar> phonon backend plugin could not be loaded ........how to load it ?
[03:46] <IndyGunFreak> lol
[03:46] <soreau> ScottG: Then it starts failing? What a rip off lol
[03:47] <heeroguy> is there a way to find out what processes are using what files? say if I had a script running that doesn't show up on ps, I'd like to know how to kill it
[03:47] <soreau> murlidhar: You might need to install some phonon package
[03:47] <maneatingracoon> quick q whats the command for install?
[03:47] <maneatingracoon> just install fwcutter?
[03:47] <maco> maneatingracoon: sudo apt-get install ....
[03:47] <soreau> heeroguy: How would it not show up in ps?
[03:47] <ScottG> soreau: I can't think of am example where a single system would have 256 disks
[03:47] <maneatingracoon> ty
[03:47] <Billiard> heeroguy: you can use lsof to list open files
[03:47] <IndyGunFreak> maneatingracoon, its in the repos.. search it.. i think its apt-get install bfw-cutter
[03:48] <maneatingracoon> thanks
[03:48] <soreau> ScottG: I can't even think of a situation with more than 26 (numLettersInTheEnglishAlphabet)
[03:48] <naz> hi all
[03:48] <basix> What is the difference between the RC and Final Version? Are there going to be significant changes to the core system? Kernel / Modules etc..? If I install the RC, can I upgrade it to the Final Version?
[03:49] <maneatingracoon> hmm didnt work..
[03:49] <soreau> basix: rc = release candidate
[03:49] <Billiard> lol after /dev/sda it goes to /dev/sd{ /dev/sd|  next ascii character
[03:49] <soreau> basix: You should be able to install rc and use upgrades from there
[03:49] <basix> soreau, i know what RC stands for
[03:49] <TinSammich> Anyone know why I have 2 instances of ubuntu when grub loads after bootup? kind of a noob
[03:49] <naz> did any one know why I cant get higher then 1024 resolution on ubuntu
[03:49] <repnop> TinSammich: previous kernel version most likely
[03:50] <soreau> TinSammich: Because you have more than one kernel version installed
[03:50] <kunji> bazhang: the forum doesn't give the full filename of the blacklist file, I have several files in that folder that are blacklists of one sort or another, do they mean blacklist.conf ?
[03:50] <basix> soreau, guess i'm trying to understand if there are going to be any major changes to Ubuntu. I really cant wait for the final to be available :|
[03:50] <soreau> naz: Which graphics card?
[03:50] <soreau> basix: ask in #ubuntu+1
[03:51] <TinSammich> how do multiple kernel versoins happen? though software updates?
[03:51] <basix> soreau, ok..
[03:51] <maco> TinSammich: yes
[03:51] <webbb82> when i used to go into my gmail and hover the mouse over my emails the email my curser was over would get highlighted greyish  but now it doesnt was that somethin java like or flash or what
[03:51] <maco> TinSammich: its often good to keep one old one around in case the current one breaks so you can boot into it
[03:51] <soreau> TinSammich: Yes. It doesn't remove the old version automatically in case by some problem, the new kernel does not work
[03:51] <maco> webbb82: thats just javascript. gmail probably got rid of that feature
[03:52] <hikenboot_> is there a trustable site for ie4linux
[03:52] <lao5> hikenboot_: no
[03:52] <TinSammich> ahh, so when i do an update, it logs the previous version and then after i do another update it logs that version and replaces the old one?
[03:52] <soreau> Wow, there is ie4linux? Why wouuld anyone ever create such a thing ><
[03:52] <kunji> bazhang: I think I need to restart to see if that worked, I'll report back soon.
[03:53] <maco> TinSammich: when you reboot, youll automatically go into the newer one
[03:53] <heeroguy> soreau: it doesn't show up for an unknown reason... I made it/use it to put the processor under load so the display doesn't glitch up (long story that I'm trying to fix), I run it as a shortcut from the launch panel as: gksudo sh /home/whatever/while1.sh
[03:53] <maco> TinSammich: the old ones stay installed in them though so you can revert back if you want
[03:53] <soreau> TinSammich: Not exactly.. also not every upgrade contains a kernel upgrade
[03:53] <naz> soreau: it just says Gateway Display Drivers Version: <IP_ADDRESS>89 on gateway site for my laptop
[03:53] <lstarnes> soreau: web developers on linux sometimes need to test for IE compatibility
[03:53] <soreau> naz: lspci|grep VGA
[03:53] <lstarnes> soreau: or users might need to use IE-only functionality
[03:53] <soreau> lstarnes: Ah. How sad ;)
[03:54] <TinSammich> kk, cause I had my most up to date one kill on me and I am using the previous version
[03:54] <heeroguy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/301025/ and that's the script in question I made to do the job
[03:54] <Ziber> So, I'm dual booting Windows and Ubuntu. Last time I tried to remove the Ubuntu partition, I wasnt able to boot into windows... What did I do wrong?
[03:54] <soreau> TinSammich: That's exactly the reason it keeps the old one installed
[03:54] <tesseract> Thank god for daylight savings..
[03:54] <TinSammich> if I update the previous version I am using now it will it replace the broken one?
[03:54] <boycott_MW2> Ziber did u have windows installed first
[03:54] <soreau> Ziber: You removed the partition with your boot loader on it
[03:55] <Ziber> boycott_MW2: yes...
[03:55] <Ziber> soreau: ?
[03:55] <FeasibilityStudy> Ziber you removed Grub, that's what
[03:55] <maco> TinSammich: itll add it to the list. it doesnt remove the old ones automatically
[03:55] <naz> soreau: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[03:55] <maco> TinSammich: when you boot itll go to the new one automatically though
[03:55] <FeasibilityStudy> Ziber without a bootloader the BIOS doesn't know what to do
[03:55] <boycott_MW2> ziber are u unable to go into windows now?
[03:55] <maco> TinSammich: but the old one will still be an *option* at boot
[03:55] <soreau> Ziber: When ubuntu is installed, it installs Grub to the MBR. If you remove it, you would have to restore your other os bootloader to the mbr
[03:55] <FeasibilityStudy> Ziber so you have to get your Windows install CD and use it to restore MBR..You can google on how to do that
[03:55] <Ziber> boycott_MW2: currently they're both installed. im on windows atm
[03:55] <Billiard> heeroguy: i think it shows up in ps
[03:55] <dalton2345> karmic still using pulseaudio?
[03:56] <boycott_MW2> so the issue is fixed Ziber
[03:56] <Billiard> dalton2345: yes
[03:56] <maco> !karmic | dalton2345
[03:56] <soreau> naz: Can you pastebin the output of 'xrandr'?
[03:56] <FeasibilityStudy> dalton2345:  I don't think so..
[03:56] <Tiders> Is there any way to somehow get a taskbar onto my second display which is in twinview? (only one X screen"?
[03:56] <Ziber> boycott_MW2: no, i want to remove ubuntu and still be able to use windows.
[03:56] <dalton2345> Billiard: is it easy to disable it
[03:56] <kunji> bazhang: no luck with the blacklisting
[03:56] <TinSammich> so it will still list the broken one after i retry the kernel update?
[03:57] <Billiard> dalton2345: idk dont have karmic or use desktop edition, i would think you can just choose alsa
[03:57] <FeasibilityStudy> Pulseaudio was NOT installed by default for me..I had to apt-get install it
[03:57] <soreau> Ziber: You need to go ask in #windows since you will need to restore that OS's MBR
[03:57] <naz> soreau: sorry I am new in ubuntu I dont undrstand waht you mean "xrandr'
[03:57] <boycott_MW2> Ziber, do you need the extra space?  Because even if you do not use the ubuntu.  It's like having a backup in case windows gets pooched.    It will give you some output. Paste that output to pastebin.com and post the link it gives you back, here
[03:58] <boycott_MW2> Ziber, was Ubuntu not up to your liking?
[03:58] <FeasibilityStudy> Ziber if you uninstall Ubuntu and cannot boot Windoze, just do a google search for "restore Windows MBR"
[03:58] <agey> I get problem in playing midi, anyone can help me?
[03:58] <soreau> Ziber: Yes, why do you want to remove ubuntu anyway?
[03:58] <TinSammich> Oh, I am running windows and linux on seperate partitions so I am prompted by grub on which to boot from
[03:58] <bazhang> kunji, sorry did you see this?
[03:59] <bazhang> !blacklist | kunji
[03:59] <naz> soreau: I did
[03:59] <KushVapors> is there a way to configure gdm thru cli
[03:59] <naz> should copy past you hear
[03:59] <soreau> naz: No
[03:59] <FeasibilityStudy> I am getting errors with Pulse in my /var/log/messages..  Rate limited errors..I cant see what they are, but it's annoying..
[03:59] <boycott_MW2> Ziber, some of us just might be curious as to why you want to get rid of it.  Maybe help us address how it can be improved for people like yourself.
[03:59] <soreau> ! paste | naz
[03:59] <agey> I have install playmidi but can works because no device found
[04:00] <soreau> agey: Does other audio work?
[04:00] <agey> yes, all audio and video format work properly
[04:00] <soreau> ! midi | agey
[04:01] <MenDan1> Will the terminal be able to do to open the Recycle Bin?where it is?
[04:01] <LogicalDash> Can I use Ubuntu's USB Startup Disk Creator to make startup disks for other distros?   I can just try both.  Thanks.
[04:01] <Evito> Someone who knows how to get Creative Audigy 4 nonpro working private chat me please?
[04:02] <FeasibilityStudy> Evito: It should work out of box...You might have to adjust mixer settings however
[04:02] <Evito> It does recognize it, i also upped the volumes
[04:02] <Evito> still quite silent sadly heh
[04:02] <soreau> TinSammich: There is some chance the meter is misreporting and the battery is actually much lower than 50%
[04:02] <Billiard> MenDan1: i think it may be located in ~/.Trash
[04:02] <Evito> this is my first hour with ubuntu or any linux for that matter
[04:02] <FeasibilityStudy> Evito: You might have to unmute Digital Output or mute it..You might also have to mute/unmute other switches like ICE9885
[04:03] <TinSammich> soreau: is there a way to correct it?
[04:03] <FeasibilityStudy> Evito: You will just have to mute/unmute mixer settings until it works..
[04:03] <soreau> TinSammich: That is purely a guess. That does not mean this is definitely the case
[04:03] <soreau> ! audio | Evito
[04:03] <naz> ubottu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/301031/
[04:04] <TinSammich> brb
[04:04] <TinSammich> finished update, going to try and relog
[04:04] <slipknotsant> hola
[04:05] <slipknotsant> hola
[04:06] <soreau> naz: That output shows you have two monitors connected in clone mode at 1024x768. What did you want to do?
[04:06] <naz> soreau: this is the link --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/301031/
[04:06] <kunji> bazman: no luck..
[04:07] <TinSammich> cool, loading the previous kernel and trying the update again fixed the problem.
[04:07] <soreau> naz: Yes, I saw the output you posted.. it shows you have two monitors cloned at 1024x768 and I assume you want to configure them some other way
[04:08] <tuxster> ns register ut0p1a1<EMAIL_ADDRESS>[04:09] <Flannel> tuxster: You'll want to change that password
[04:09] <TinSammich> been doing searches on google and forums and cant find a reason why my computer dies while it still has charge in the battery, any ideas?
[04:10] <jubilem_> hello! anybody out there with Thinkpad X40 & Ubuntu 9.10?
[04:10] <leaf-sheep> tuxster: Is that your global password too for every popular sites out there?
[04:10] <maco> TinSammich: its probably calibrated wrong and telling you there's more battery left than there really is
[04:10] <maco> TinSammich: your bios may have an option to calibrate the battery
[04:10] <Ademan> does 'sudo service gdm stop' no longer put gdm and X down for good? i'm trying to help out a friend and i had him run that, and X went off for a bit, but now it's back... seemingly unprompted
[04:10] <TinSammich> maco: when I switch over to windows i still have 1/4 battery left
[04:11] <soreau> Ademan: Try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:11] <maco> TinSammich: does it shut down to guard against the dead battery or just blip off?
[04:11] <kaptainkranium> When I try to install flashplayer 10 in the package installer, it gives me Error: Wrong architecture 'i386'
[04:12] <leaf-sheep> kaptainkranium: Are you using i386 or amd64?
[04:12] <TinSammich> maco: just blip off, no shutdown process
[04:12] <osx5> maco: u around?
[04:12] <osx5> guess she is
[04:13] <kaptainkranium> my computer is amd64, and i'm pretty sure I downloaded the 64 version, but I guess i could have made a mistake. How do i check?
[04:13] <HowDoI> kaptainkranium, Ubuntu always tried to install the 32-bit Flash player with that package even though I was using 64 biy
[04:13] <osx5> maco: when you did your ubuntu min install did you ever mess with icewm?
[04:13] <HowDoI> BIT*
[04:13] <maco> kaptainkranium: "uname -a" see if it says x86_64 in there. if so, its 64bit
[04:13] <leaf-sheep> kaptainkranium: If you don't know your machine, run 'uname -m' -- Let me get you the site.
[04:13] <naz> soreau: yes I do have extrnal monitor i am using oin it too if that waht you mean
[04:13] <maco> kaptainkranium: if it says i686 or something like that, its 32bit
[04:14] <kaptainkranium> where do i type uname-m or uname-a
[04:14] <Deihmos> does ubuntu have a way to shrink volume?
[04:14] <soreau> naz: What is your desired configuration?
[04:14] <maco> kaptainkranium: in a terminal
[04:14] <maco> kaptainkranium: don't forget the space before the -
[04:14] <DigitalKiwi> "what's a terminal?"
[04:14] <ygd-coder> dehmos: try qparted
[04:14] <leaf-sheep> kaptainkranium: In the terminal.  Also, http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[04:14] <Billiard> Deihmos: yes using gparted
[04:14] <kaptainkranium> digitalkiwi got it
[04:14] <Deihmos> i thought ubuntu didn't support hardware raid 0? i just installed it with no issues
[04:14] <maco> kaptainkranium: applications -> accessories -> terminal
[04:14] <kaptainkranium> thank you
[04:14] <maco> Deihmos: the live cd does not. the alternate cd does
[04:15] <Deihmos> used the live cd
[04:15]  * maco blinks
[04:15] <ygd-coder> has anyone tried karmic on an intel GMA 950?
[04:15] <Deihmos> it saw my raid drives as one drive. installed it and now using it
[04:15] <naz> 1280
[04:15] <maco> !karmic | ygd-coder
[04:15] <TinSammich> maco: it just completely quits on me, no shutdown
[04:15] <maco> TinSammich: no idea...
[04:15] <kaptainkranium>  2.6.28-16-generic #55-Ubuntu SMP Tue Oct 20 19:48:32 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[04:15] <maco> Deihmos: maybe because its hardware and not software raid? not sure...
[04:16] <TinSammich> maco: haha, same here. thanks though :)
[04:16] <soreau> naz: You mean you want both 1280x1024? (you have to talk to me here, put my nick in what you say so I can see you easier)
[04:16] <zebra> help me
[04:16] <naz> soreau: somewhere 12800*1024
[04:16] <Ademan> how can you kill X.org and gdm for good in a livecd session? it seems despite my best efforts something keeps restarting gdm (sudo service gdm stop doesn't work, nor does killall -9 gdm, which is probably a bad idea, but i'm out of ideas)
[04:16] <leaf-sheep> kaptainkranium: You want to download the tar.gz -- Untar it and you'll see "libplayer-something.so" -- Place it in ~/.mozilla/plugins/
[04:16] <zebra> zebra@zebra-laptop:~$ sudo sh ./ati-driver-installer-8-6-x86.x86_64.run
[04:16] <zebra> Created directory fglrx-install.6ybPO5
[04:16] <zebra> Verifying archive integrity... All good.
[04:16] <zebra> Uncompressing ATI Proprietary Linux Driver-8.501.................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................
[04:16] <soreau> ! ask | zebra
[04:16] <FloodBot3> zebra: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:16] <zebra> [04:16] <Deihmos> it is hardware. i have it set in bios. where is this qpart?
[04:16] <naz> sorry i mean 1280
[04:16] <maco> Ademan: sudo service gdm stop
[04:16] <maco> Ademan: or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[04:17] <osx5> maco: you didn't answer my question
[04:17] <kaptainkranium> can i get that in the add/remove applications window?
[04:17] <Ademan> maco: i tried sudo service gdm stop, but thanks, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop shouldn't be any different should it?
[04:17] <kaptainkranium> again, this is my first hour with ubuntu, so i am unfamiliar with most of the terminology
[04:17] <Lapinux> under normal circumstances when an app is installed with synaptic should it appear in a menu someplace or do you have to create an entry?
[04:17] <maco> Ademan: no it shouldnt. im just not sure what the first version to include service was ;)
[04:17] <leaf-sheep> !terminal | kaptainkranium
[04:17] <leaf-sheep> kaptainkranium: You will eventually learn that the terminal is your best friend. :)
[04:17] <naz> soreeau: yes
[04:18] <maco> kaptainkranium: no, you cant check that in the add/remove window. thats just for installing software
[04:18] <Ademan> maco: ah, haha, yeah i've got it, but interestingly enough, it doesn't show "stopping service gdm .... [OK]" or whatever it usually does
[04:18] <osx5> news: swine flu is now a national emergency Obama says
[04:18] <maco> leaf-sheep: meh, my mom's used ubuntu for...itll be 3 years next month. she's never seen nor used the terminal
[04:18] <osx5> for the uninformed
[04:18] <Flannel> osx5: #ubuntu-offtopic, not here, thanks.
[04:18] <leaf-sheep> maco: That is because diamond is her best friend, not the terminal or the dog. :)
[04:18] <TinSammich> is there a key command to just launch terminal?
[04:18] <soreau> naz: Ok, try this in your terminal: xrandr --output VGA --mode1280x1024
[04:19] <mQQsh> how hard is it to install the 3d desktop cube?
[04:19] <soreau> naz: Err.. I meant this: xrandr --output VGA --mode 1280x1024
[04:19] <osx5> Flannel: k
[04:19] <maco> osx5: GAY!
[04:19] <kaptainkranium> okay so what I am doing is putting in code, as opposed to software
[04:19] <kaptainkranium> and i do this via the terminal
[04:19] <osx5> maco: ?
[04:19] <kaptainkranium> correct?
[04:19] <osx5> maco: that's off topic
[04:19] <maco> osx5: oh it didnt work
[04:19] <osx5> maco: btw I'm married now
[04:19] <TinSammich> mQQsh: its pretty easy
[04:19] <DigitalKiwi> lmao
[04:19] <leaf-sheep> kaptainkranium: Yes. few commands.  That's it.
[04:19] <DigitalKiwi> "good cover" -- peanut
[04:20] <mQQsh> TinSammich: do you know anywhere online that will help get me started?
[04:20] <osx5> maco: did you ever mess  with icewm?
[04:20] <TinSammich> mQQsh: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[04:20] <leaf-sheep> kaptainkranium: Click the URL to download the tar.gz -- http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-<IP_ADDRESS>.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz -- You'll see tar.gz -- Click on the file and drag the new file (libsplayer.so) to the Desktop.  Let me know when you're done.
[04:20] <soreau> naz: For the other monitor your highest set mode is 1280x768 so you could do: xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1280x768
[04:20] <TinSammich> mQQsh: run that in terminal, should grab and install what your looking for
[04:20] <soreau> but that would probably be weird depending on the monitor
[04:21] <soreau> and it's native res
[04:21] <mQQsh> TinSammich: awesome.. thanks for the help
[04:21] <TinSammich> mQQsh: then look in system->preferences->and the control pannel will be there
[04:21] <TinSammich> mQQsh: no prob ^^
[04:21] <kaptainkranium> leaf-sheep: Done
[04:21] <osx5> maco: I did a minimal install and am having a fun time with this icewm and learning how to edit source files and what not in the command line
[04:22] <bazhang> osx5, did you have a support question?
[04:22] <leaf-sheep> kaptainkranium: Okay, now we open the terminal.  Run "ls -l ~/Desktop"  -- Do you see the libplayer.so file?
[04:22] <osx5> bazhang: ya it wasn't answered earlier
[04:22] <soreau> mQQsh: If you need any help, come to #compiz. Cube is already installed, you just have to enable it. Set Sys>Prefs>Appearance>Visual Effects to Extra then use Ctrl+Alt+Drag to rotate the cube. By default on ubuntu, it has only two viewports however
[04:23] <osx5> I'm trying to figure out how you add more program to the menu file on icewm with it being on a ubuntu min install
[04:23] <naz> soreau: I am getting command not found
[04:23] <osx5> programs*
[04:23] <kaptainkranium> yes
[04:23] <ChesFTC> Hi, I'm having a bizarre problem with apache spewing binary garbage out in the Karmic RC prior to the HTTP OK header
[04:24] <ChesFTC> Has anybody else seen this before?
[04:24] <soreau> naz: Pastebin the failed output
[04:24] <leaf-sheep> kaptainkranium: Okay, assuming you're using Firefox, we'll create a new plugins folder in ~/.mozilla -- Run 'mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins'
[04:24] <soreau> naz: You can post it here if it's just one line
[04:24] <mQQsh> TinSammich: alright i got that and enabled it.. is there a hot key  or how do I activate it?
[04:24] <Flannel> ChesFTC: You might try in #ubuntu+1
[04:24] <leaf-sheep> kaptainkranium: Then we move the file --> "mv ~/Desktop/libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins"
[04:25] <ChesFTC> Flannel: Thanks :)
[04:25] <leaf-sheep> kaptainkranium: And restart the Firefox.  You should get your Flash.
[04:25] <Jester86> ello govna
[04:25] <mikobuntu_> TinSammich:  look at >system >prefs >keyboard-shortcuts>Run a terminal.. and set it to something like home<alt<t
[04:25] <leaf-sheep> kaptainkranium: It's mostly about applying the flash plugin in the right directory. That's it. :)
[04:25] <naz> soreau: this is I am getting: bash: xrand: command not found
[04:25] <soreau> naz: You typoed. The command is actually xrandr, not xrand
[04:26] <kaptainkranium> when i type in the makedirectory command it says no such file or directory
[04:26] <naz> oh sorry
[04:26] <leaf-sheep> kaptainkranium: This command? --> mkdir ~/.mozilla/plugins
[04:27] <mikobuntu_> kaptainkranium:  mkdir   is the command fore make directory
[04:27] <kaptainkranium> oh i didn't see the space before the ~
[04:27] <kaptainkranium> alright im assuming it worked since i got no message
[04:28] <leaf-sheep> kaptainkranium: Yes. You can copy and paste the commands I gave you earlier.
[04:28] <kaptainkranium> tried that but i cant figure out how to copy things from IRC
[04:29] <chris_lenz123> same
[04:29] <Tniffoc> Hey, my firefox wont't download files. I say "Save File" and then it never downloads and nothing pops up in the "downloads" section of FireFox.
[04:29] <poseidon> I installed the boost-doc package.  How do I find out where the docs are?
[04:29] <kaptainkranium> it just shows a dropdown with  xchat and other menus, in which there is no copy option
[04:29] <Tniffoc> kaptainkranium: Ctrl-C?
[04:29] <leaf-sheep> kaptainkranium: Highlight and it'll be copied automatically.
[04:30] <Tniffoc> Hey, my firefox wont't download files. I say "Save File" and then it never downloads and nothing pops up in the "downloads" section of FireFox.
[04:30] <mikobuntu_> kaptainkranium:  highlight (left click and drag) right click and copy ,
[04:30] <kaptainkranium> fantastic. Youtube working. Thank you so much. I have a feeling I'm going to love ubuntu
[04:31] <leaf-sheep> kaptainkranium: Great! In case you were not aware, there are a new release coming out in 5 days! :)
[04:31] <soreau> Tniffoc: Try running firefox from your terminal and see if there's any interesting output?
[04:31] <boycott_MW2> kaptainkranium what kind of pc u running it on
[04:31] <leaf-sheep> kaptainkranium: There are Ubuntu releases every 6 months so you'll like it. I think. :)
[04:31] <kaptainkranium> I was! but i figured i didn't want to get the DC if I wasn't familiar with it
[04:31] <kaptainkranium> i have an MSI laptop
[04:31] <kaptainkranium> am 64
[04:31] <Tniffoc> soreau: will try but FF didn't log anything to it's Error Console. Starting in Terminal now
[04:32] <kaptainkranium> ha that's about as much as I know. I'm not as computer savvy as I'd like to be
[04:32] <kaptainkranium> Is it going to be easy to upgrade to Karmic?
[04:32] <boycott_MW2> well you were smart enough to get irc help
[04:32] <leaf-sheep> kaptainkranium: Yes. That would be few commands in the terminal or you can check in Software Sources. :)
[04:33] <leaf-sheep> kaptainkranium: Also, more information about upgrading.  Something for you to read about.
[04:33] <leaf-sheep> !upgrade | kaptainkranium
[04:34] <naz> soreau: my screen got black after that comand I think it couldnt display it so restarted my pc
[04:34] <Jester86> ello govnas
[04:34] <Jester86> lol
[04:34] <kaptainkranium> thanks leaf-sheep and ubottu. So now that i've got my effects going, and can surf the internet like on Vista, any recommendations for a program or code to add? Maybe something fun or that I could not do in windows?
[04:34] <Jester86> well I just installed ubuntu on my new acer 6930g
[04:35] <Tiders> When trying to run a Python Script using the GASP imported I get this error... Could anyone help?   shawn@Shawn-Desktop:~/Desktop/Scripts/Hangman$ .: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0.
[04:35] <soreau> naz: Aww
[04:35] <leaf-sheep> kaptainkranium: In fact, you could upgrade right now if you'd like! We're at Release Candidate right now. It's mostly about fixing minor bugs now. If you do it now, you could avoid long waitings because everybody would be upgrading and the mirror servers will get hammered.
[04:35] <Jester86> dont know what to think.. seems like battery life went way down :-\
[04:35] <Jester86> anyone know of any good way to preserve battery life?
[04:35] <kaptainkranium> I guess I'd like to see just how far this rabbit-hole goes
[04:35] <kaptainkranium> Leaf-sheep, sure why not
[04:36] <kaptainkranium> oh wow ubottu is a bot
[04:36] <kaptainkranium> thats embarassing
[04:36] <leaf-sheep> kaptainkranium: I think it is better that you learn few commands in terminal -- You even can alias them to make things easier (eg, search for the programs and whatnot).
[04:36] <osx5> it's a program, its ok kaptain
[04:36] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=315736 osx5 no idea this may help
[04:36] <osx5> thanks baz
[04:36] <zopiac> i used sudo chmod 667 on a folder and now nautilus says it cant determine the type of file the folder is, please help D:
[04:37] <leaf-sheep> kaptainkranium: Are you using Jaunty right now?
[04:37] <Bluey> zopiac: well that doesn't make sense but okay
[04:37] <boycott_MW2> Jester86 is that a new comp
[04:37] <kaptainkranium> Yes
[04:37] <zopiac> Bluey: exactly, but its true
[04:38] <leaf-sheep> kaptainkranium: See http://tinyurl.com/yhufugb
[04:38] <Jester86> boycott_MW2, yeah I just bought it.. its a factory refurb
[04:38] <MonkeySilent> can u see what drivers are installed?
[04:38] <boycott_MW2> what make model again?
[04:38] <Bluey> zopiac: what you said is I want to give the owner and the group read / write access, but the world read, write and delete access
[04:38] <Jester86> acer as6930g
[04:38] <zopiac> oh
[04:38] <Jester86> i'm half tempted to try and sell it and buy a system76 or whatever that is
[04:38] <Bluey> zopiac: more common is 755
[04:38] <zopiac> well still, thats not my problem
[04:38] <osx5> bazhang: found the file
[04:39] <MonkeySilent> how do i inspect modules built inside the kernel?
[04:39] <Jester86> I only paid 626 for the laptop.. I could sell it for alot more
[04:39] <Bluey> zopiac: as long as you don't want to delete files..
[04:39] <kaptainkranium> alright. Well thanks for the help, I'm going to go eat, install kk, then read up on using the terminal
[04:39] <matelot> Anyone has the URL to Chrome ?
[04:39] <maco> zopiac: maybe the lack of execute on the directory is the problem?
[04:39] <Gpsin> hi Guysa
[04:39] <Gpsin> sorry
[04:39] <boycott_MW2> Jester86 sound working?
[04:40] <Gpsin> Hi Guys
[04:40] <maco> zopiac: since you cant enter a directory to which you dont have execute permissions
[04:40] <zopiac> i got it
[04:40] <Jester86> yeah, everything works great.. just batt life sucks
[04:40] <Gpsin> yes
[04:40] <Gpsin> please hold I will provide
[04:40] <Jester86> i dunno if sound via hdmi works yet or not tho
[04:40] <Jester86> haven't tried it
[04:40] <Gpsin> the URL to chrome
[04:40] <zopiac> Bluey: thanks for the tip about 775, that worked
[04:40] <maco> !chromium
[04:40] <maco> matelot: ^
[04:41] <Bluey> zopiac: NOO -- that should be 755 maybe I said it wrong
[04:41] <matelot> thx ubottu
[04:41] <gscar3crow> QUESTOIN: WHAT IS THE COMMAND TO UPGRADE TO 9.10?
[04:41] <Bluey> zopiac:  nope I said it right
[04:41] <boycott_MW2> Jester86 battery lasts how long on ubuntu compared to windows?
[04:42] <maco> !karmic | gscar3crow
[04:42] <leaf-sheep> gscar3crow: http://tinyurl.com/yhufugb
[04:42] <Billiard> gscar3crow: why are you yelling
[04:42] <TinSammich> So just tested my computer dieing at 50% and its truely dieing at 57%. checked it against windows
[04:42] <gscar3crow> sorry caps
[04:42] <Jester86> est 2.5 hrs in ubuntu, 3.75-4 hrs in windows
[04:42] <maco> gscar3crow: darn it. ok: gksudo "update-manager -d"
[04:42] <gscar3crow> ty
[04:42] <davey> hi guys.. what is bpo image ? what is the diference?
[04:43] <TinSammich> any idea why my comp is completely losing power around 50%?
[04:43] <Bluey> davey: new one on me...
[04:43] <leaf-sheep> Jester86: You could try and install the essential packages tailored to your likings instead of using default packages from ubuntu-desktop.
[04:43] <boycott_MW2> hmm Jester86 definetely something to look into....Im trying to google that now but not coming up wiht much
[04:43] <maco> Jester86: yeah...i kinda doubt system76 is gonna have stellar battery life either. its still just hardware that happens tohave drivers, its not like they write super drivers just for their stuff. i thought 2h was about normal battery life though
[04:44] <Ahadiel> Jester86, Do you have cpufrequtils installed?
[04:44] <Gpsin> which is the best download manager for linux
[04:44] <TinSammich> only happens in ubuntu as well, I am able to go through the full battery in windows but for some reason ubuntu dies
[04:44] <Jester86> maco, yes i do, have it scaled done to 1.6 from 2.0
[04:44] <Bluey> Gpsin: for what kind of file?
[04:44] <Jester86> set for powersave
[04:44] <davey> uuh? one on you? come on guys.. what is that? i can delete bpo entries in grub.cfg?
[04:45] <Jester86> i mean Ahadiel, i do
[04:45] <Ahadiel> Jester86, Well, in Windows it probably lowers it even more than 1.6
[04:45] <Jester86> and leaf-sheep, i may have to try it.. i considered trying arch linux too :-\
[04:45] <Ahadiel> so that could be why
[04:45] <davey> what is bpo? i can delete that options?
[04:45] <DigitalKiwi> <3 arch
[04:45] <Jester86> hmm i could always edit it to drop down lower than 1.6
[04:45] <Ahadiel> DigitalKiwi, D:
[04:45] <Ahadiel> Jester86, or set it to "ondemand"
[04:46] <Jester86> boycott_MW2, what do u think about arch linux?
[04:46] <arghh2d2> archlinux is the sh!t
[04:46] <maco> !ohmy | arghh2d2
[04:46] <Bluey> davey: Ihave no bpo files on my machine - dont know
[04:46] <Jester86> Ahadiel, I'll have to try to edit it and see what happens.. right now i'm running fedora 11 live, just trying it out.. may have 2 linux os's on it
[04:46] <kaptainkranium> oh yeah one more thing, I'm enabling mp3 and wma playback right now, will i have to do this again when i upgrade to KK
[04:46] <davey> hi bluey.. bpo in grub menu
[04:46] <boycott_MW2> i have friends that like it.  I have not tried it myself.  I've run puppylinux before....fast light distro.
[04:47] <kaptainkranium> ?
[04:47] <davey> what is?
[04:47] <boycott_MW2> What are u looking for in a distro Jester86?
[04:47] <Gpsin> for all files
[04:47] <maco> kaptainkranium: no itll stay installed
[04:47] <maco> kaptainkranium: unless you reinstall from a cd...
[04:47] <Bluey> davey: I've never seen it - but that means it doesn't exists - there are no *.bpo files on my machine - so I don't know
[04:47] <boycott_MW2> Lubuntu is something I plan on trying Jester86
[04:47] <Jester86> boycott_MW2, i've used a ton of distros over the past decade so i'm really good w/ about anything
[04:47] <maco> hey folks, getting a little off topic
[04:48] <Jester86> i've used fc5, ubuntu, mint, arch, slackware, etc
[04:48] <boycott_MW2> Well, Jester86 I have a good friend who has tried quite a few....he has stuck with Debian.
[04:48] <arghh2d2> archlinux you build from scratch, rolling release updates, and it has lots of packages
[04:48] <maco> Jester86, arghh2d2, boycott_MW2: #ubuntu-offtopic?
[04:48] <Jester86> i may give slackware a try
[04:49] <Jester86> lol sorry maco we'll take it to pm
[04:49] <davey> linux	/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.29-bpo.2-686 root=UUID=f0efa042-e954-43f7-9eec-9cfcaf9388eb ro single
[04:49] <davey> what is bpo.
[04:50] <davey> i have 4 linux option in my grub...
[04:50] <davey> and 2 options are bpo
[04:50] <davey> what is the diference? i can delete bpo options?
[04:50] <Bluey> davey: find one that fits:  http://www.acronymfinder.com/BPO.html
[04:51] <davey> ok tks let's me see :D
[04:51] <naz> soreau: what was the syntax please for the xrandr mode 1280x1024....?
[04:52] <soreau> naz: xrandr --output VGA --mode 1280x1024
[04:52] <mQQsh> soreau: sorry my dog unplugged my power surge haha.. what was that channel again?
[04:52] <soreau> mQQsh: lol #compiz
[04:52] <naz> thanks
[04:54] <starke_> hey anybody know if there is a way to set documentroot in apache via commandline?
[04:55] <Billiard> starke_: that is the only way i know of
[04:55] <Gpsin> is any better high speed download manager softwre in linux
[04:55] <Billiard> starke_: editing the conf files
[04:55] <starke_> which one?
[04:56] <starke_> apache2.conf or httpd.conf
[04:56] <Billiard> starke_: by default its in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ somethin
[04:57] <MadSeaDog> how can i search for a .jpg  in the whole hdd??
[04:57] <maco> MadSeaDog: locate *.jpg
[04:57] <maco> MadSeaDog: if its a fresh install, try "sudo updatedb" first
[04:58] <davey> no info on   http://www.acronymfinder.com/BPO.html.. :(
[04:58] <starke_> Billiard, do i restart apache after i edit the file?
[04:59] <davey> guys i have four linux options in my grub... i just want 1 but i dont know if i can delete without problems the 3 others
[04:59] <ramesh> hi
[04:59] <Dhuski> Is there an equivalent of WinSCP for ubuntu?
[04:59] <grex23> the mafia is a proud user of ubuntu
[04:59] <Billiard> starke_: yes or sudo service apache reload
[04:59] <ramesh> i am having trouble installing ns-allinone-2.34
[04:59] <grex23> we use it for our trucking business guieseppe and sons
[04:59] <Billiard> starke_: apache2 maybe
[04:59] <ramesh> can anyone help me
[04:59] <leaf-sheep> Dhuski: scp is native for linux.  WinSCP is... a program that mimics linux's scp. :)
[05:00] <grex23> :P
[05:00] <grex23> ciao
[05:00] <Dhuski> leaf-sheep, thanks
[05:00] <leaf-sheep> Dhuski: I suppose you want to try scp or Filezilla -- Depends on what you're trying to accomplish.
[05:00]  * grex23 needs sleep
[05:00] <agapl> hm
[05:00] <grex23> mafia needs 4 ubuntu experts
[05:00] <RPG_Master> Why does Ubuntu randomly stop reading discs until I reboot?
[05:00] <grex23> hi som
[05:01] <som> hi
[05:01] <grex23> i need som
[05:01] <grex23> :)
[05:01] <grex23> som dim
[05:01] <RPG_Master> So, anyone else have that problem before?
[05:01] <starke_> Billiard, now its telling me im forbidden
[05:01] <som> hello grex23
[05:01] <Billiard> starke_: elaborate
[05:01] <naz> soreau: I tried 1280x768 gave me message: cannot find mode
[05:01] <arghh2d2> ls
[05:01] <grex23> ls -al
[05:01] <arghh2d2> whoops
[05:01] <grex23> fkdsk
[05:02] <RPG_Master> Anyone?
[05:02] <grex23> grp
[05:02] <beatbreaker> what can I use to rip audio into MP3s onLinux - I used to like EAC on Windows
[05:02] <ramesh> its showing "checking for X11 header files
[05:02] <ramesh> can't find X includes
[05:02] <ramesh> otcl-1.13 configuration failed! Exiting ...
[05:02] <ramesh> "
[05:02] <hans> hmm.. is there a way to sync my server's clock to my local machine's clock? there's about a minute and a half time discrepency that's driving me crazy
[05:02] <FloodBot3> ramesh: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:02]  * grex23 leaves
[05:02] <ramesh> anyone
[05:02] <ramesh> help me
[05:03] <DaZ> hans: ntp? :f
[05:03] <DigitalKiwi> openntpd > ntp
[05:03] <ramesh> ok
[05:03] <soreau> naz: 1280x768 will only work for --output LVDS
[05:03] <soreau> naz: You can add other modes too, but I am getting sleepy here :/
[05:03] <ramesh> help me floodBot3
[05:04] <weber> faf
[05:04] <DaZ> openntpd == ntp implementation >:
[05:04] <ratt> hy hy
[05:04] <Guest83118> Hey dose anyone know of a good mini version of ubuntu (no need for GUI)?
[05:04] <weber> hello
[05:04] <DaZ> Guest83118: debian
[05:04] <ratt> hmm no gui version of ubuntu ;d
[05:04] <leaf-sheep> !minimal | Guest83118
[05:04] <leaf-sheep> !server | Guest83118
[05:04] <leaf-sheep> There you go.
[05:04] <ratt> debian is no gui version but not mini version ;D
[05:04] <Guest83118> ok thanks guys
[05:05] <ramesh> anyone
[05:05] <ratt> i have debian un 4 dvd cd but not only debian there is many program for him
[05:05] <mandiri> jkdjckjzjkzkxkljkkxhcjxjj
[05:05] <ratt> ;d
[05:05] <ramesh> help me with this
[05:05] <ramesh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/301058/
[05:05] <starke_> Billiard, i set the docroot to my home folder,
[05:05] <Billiard> starke_: ok?
[05:05] <ratt> I need help about install new themes on flux un ubuntu ?
[05:05] <ramesh> i could not find the package libxt-devel
[05:05] <starke_> and now its giving me a forbidden
[05:06] <DaZ> starke_: apache? ;f
[05:06] <Billiard> starke_: ok, does your home folder have read permissions for all users?
[05:06] <ratt> where i can read something about programing kernel ?
[05:06] <DaZ> starke_: because it's running as nobody
[05:06] <nascentmind> hi. why does amarok ask admin password in karmic koala?
[05:07] <leaf-sheep> !karmic | nascentmind
[05:07] <starke_> Billiard,  running it as root
[05:07] <ratt> su root ;d
[05:07] <Billiard> starke_: you are running apache as root?
[05:07] <nascentmind> leaf-sheep, ok.
[05:07] <RPG_Master> Why does Ubuntu randomly stop reading discs until I reboot?
[05:07] <starke_> Billiard,  yes
[05:07] <RPG_Master> Please help :(
[05:07] <DaZ> he's not
[05:07] <DaZ> <:
[05:07] <Billiard> starke_: you sure?, check ps
[05:08] <starke_> root@ubuntu:/home/starke# /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[05:08] <starke_>  * Restarting web server apache2                        ... waiting .                                  [ OK ]
[05:08] <DaZ> starke_: it doesn't run as root.
[05:08] <Billiard> DaZ: by default does it run www-data or nobody?
[05:08] <DaZ> it's defined in the config files.
[05:09] <Billiard> DaZ: mine is www-data but im not sure if i changed it
[05:09] <wgrant> By default, Apache runs as www-data:www-data
[05:09] <Billiard> wgrant: thanks
[05:09] <DaZ> Billiard: i don't use ubuntu, but i know it doesn't run as root :F
[05:09] <DaZ> maybe on ubuntu it's www-data
[05:09] <naz> sereau: thanks no pro:)
[05:10] <Billiard> starke_: you will need to give apache permission to read your home directory, one way or another
[05:10] <ous6> hi i have a wireless problem
[05:10] <ous6> i need help
[05:11] <ratt> you need to install wireless adapter driver i think
[05:11] <ratt> but driver for xp dosent work ub linux
[05:11] <ratt> srry for my bed english ;d
[05:12]  * DigitalKiwi gives ous6 a cable
[05:12] <ous6> i have installed ubuntu
[05:12] <ratt> good for you
[05:13] <m4c> heya
[05:13] <leaf-sheep> !yay | ous6
[05:13] <ratt> is enyone like redman
[05:13] <DigitalKiwi> my condolences
[05:13] <ratt> d,
[05:13] <ratt> ;D
[05:14] <geek> hi guys
[05:14] <JECHO> yo
[05:14] <wrapster> hi
[05:14] <mrmonox> hi there, got some problems enabling desktop effects in my laptop. I have ATI Radeon 3100 with ATI's binary drivers installed, but they wont appear
[05:14] <ubuntu> help, i just removed gui on start up and now there's no sound. nor can i read my usb hd
[05:14] <carbm2> anybody know if its possible to mount a samba share without having to type in a password? smbmount //server/share /mnt/point -o username=carbm1,password=XXXX just doesn't seem very secure. Is there a way to make it use your Linux password automatically?  If my credentials match on the Samba Server and my Linux I would like the authentication to be transparent to me.
[05:15] <wrapster> i wanted to do measure the throughput of my HD and ran bonnie.. here is the o/p http://pastie.org/668694
[05:15] <ratt> nasm coding un ubuntu ?
[05:15] <ubuntu> help, i just removed gui on start up and now there's no sound. nor can does my external hd read. any suggestions?
[05:15] <wrapster> but how do i find out the throughput?
[05:15] <ratt> ebook about nasm coding ?
[05:15] <wrapster> what here can be regarded as throughput?
[05:15] <Cryptic_Donkey> !9.10
[05:17] <ratt> good night peoples :D
[05:17] <ubuntu> HELP, i just removed gui on start up and now there's no sound. nor does my external hd work.
[05:17] <ous6> guys i need help, i have installed ubuntu but, i cant detect wireless, the wifi light does not turn on, i have installed ndiswrapper and inf file from windows driver but stiil no go
[05:18] <carbm2> ubuntu, After you disabled Gnome from startup the mounter would have quit working.  You will manually have to mount your USB drive.
[05:18] <doc-saintly> Are there known fixes for getting sound in flash on ubuntu? It worked great for a month and now it suddenly stopped
[05:18] <carbm2> ubuntu, as far as sound goes... your going to play sound from CLI?
[05:18] <wgrant> carbm2: You can't do that. But is there a particular reason that you want to mount it, rather than using GNOME's built-in support?
[05:18] <ubuntu> carbm2, i started x
[05:18] <ubuntu> so i would like sound to work in x
[05:18] <wgrant> carbm2: (GNOME will remember the passwords)
[05:19] <carbm2> doc-saintly,  I just yesterday had to uninstall "dpkg -r adobe-flashplugin" and reinstall to fix my sound.
[05:20] <carbm2> wgrant, I want to go to Documents and it be the same files that are on my server.  So I'm mounting the share instead of having to browse.... I would like my files tranparently.  I can do this with SSHFS and keys but I hate the overhead.
[05:20] <TinSammich> Have a quick question about trash. When I select something to move to trash and then go to trash under places, nothing is in there to empty. Was wondering if there is a way to turn off auto empty or if theres a reason it is not showing up?
[05:20] <carbm2> ubuntu, did you disable gdm from starting or did you remove it and just reinstalled it?
[05:20] <som> ls
[05:21] <ubuntu> carbm2, i just disabled so, i am going to try and reinable
[05:21] <carbm2> ubuntu, "sudo update-rc.d gdm default"
[05:21] <doc-saintly> trying that carbm2
[05:21] <Sirisian> Anyone know what source file contains the code for getpid in the kernel source?
[05:24] <rave> hi can anybody tell me how to set windows properties my all windows are opening  maximised and its kinda annoying
[05:25] <ubuntu> how do i re-enable the gui?
[05:25] <carbm2> ubuntu, "sudo update-rc.d gdm default"
[05:25] <Royall> My compiz-fusion isn't working at all
[05:25] <Royall> I try to start it and I get nothin
[05:26] <carbm2> I'm sorry... "sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults"
[05:26] <carbm2> then "sudo service gdm restart"
[05:26] <ubuntu> oh ok
[05:28] <ubuntu1> cool, it worked :) thanks
[05:28] <carbm2> ubuntu, I'm actually curious to know if your sound is working now.... I figure if you disabled gdm on startup and were using startx as a normal user I wonder if some of the important dependencies were loaded.
[05:28] <DaZ> Royall: glxinfo|grep direct? :f
[05:28] <carbm2> ubuntu, well.... that answers that.
[05:28] <ubuntu1> carbm2, ya the sound and usb hard disk mounts now
[05:29] <ubuntu1> everything is back to normal but, i still have gui login... last time i had to reinstall tho
[05:29] <ubuntu1> so this is really good
[05:29] <rave> hi can anybody tell me how to set windows properties my all windows are opening  maximised and its kinda annoying
[05:30] <ubuntu1> rave, system > preferences > windows
[05:30]  * tuisi slaps tuisi around a bit with a large trout
[05:31] <DigitalKiwi> Sirisian: did you find it?
[05:31] <Sirisian> nope
[05:31] <Sirisian> been looking for like 5 hours :\
[05:31] <Sirisian> I feel like I'm missing something important
[05:31] <carbm2> ubuntu1, what version are you running?  I couldn't find anything about maximize in my system>pref>window on 9.10.
[05:31] <magikid> anyone know nautilus stores the desktop background image?
[05:32] <rave> ubuntu1 no there is nothing to help i did some update and this started happining before it was fine
[05:32] <ubuntu1> actually, i thought it would be there but there's nothing. my bad
[05:32] <carbm2> magikid, are you wanting to know where exactly the file is where to manually change the setting?
[05:32] <magikid> carbm2: yes
[05:32] <michael_jameson> hey, i'm having some trouble with this error code:E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[05:32] <michael_jameson> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[05:32] <michael_jameson> any ideas?
[05:32] <carbm2> rave, If your running compiz or such you may need to check there.
[05:32] <rave> ok
[05:32] <starke_> Billiard, http://pastebin.ca/1642348
[05:32] <carbm2> magikid, You want to know where the file is?
[05:33] <Ahadiel> michael_jameson, It looks like you should run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[05:33] <Billiard> michael_jameson: did you try what it said?
[05:33] <magikid> carbm2: yes
[05:33] <michael_jameson> i tried and nothing happened
[05:33] <Ahadiel> michael_jameson, Did you run it in a terminal?
[05:33] <michael_jameson> of course
[05:34] <Sirisian> DigitalKiwi, Have you noticed that in the /usr/src/linux-2.6.28/arch/i386 folder there's only a /boot in there and nothing else. Did they switch to using the /x86 folder halway through 2.6? Not sure if you said something because you know where it is.
[05:34] <DigitalKiwi> find /path/to/kernelsource "*\.h"|grep "\.h$"|xargs grep "getpid"
[05:34] <michael_jameson> let me try the update again
[05:34] <michael_jameson> thanks
[05:34] <Billiard> starke_: did you try to access an actual file, not a directory index
[05:34] <Sirisian> DigitalKiwi, halfway* Do you have the kernel source on your computer?
[05:34] <starke_> Billiard,  directory
[05:34] <carbm2> magikid, "gconftool-2 -g /desktop/gnome/background/picture_filename"
[05:35] <Billiard> starke_: try an actualy file
[05:35] <DigitalKiwi> Sirisian: maybe
[05:35] <michael_jameson> it says i have a broken package on my system
[05:35] <carbm2> magikid, that will print out where the file is actually at.
[05:35] <michael_jameson> and to use the broken package locater to find it
[05:35] <magikid> carbm2: thanks
[05:35] <michael_jameson> wtf?
[05:37] <mu> Hello. I just put together a new computer and am wondering if there are available hardware tests for Ubuntu (either diagnostics, benchmarking, or whatnot) in order to make sure the hardware is in order. Any pointers?
[05:37] <Nitrodist> !ask
[05:37] <IonutB> hey guys. how could i fix this problem ? printscreen : http://i35.tinypic.com/2cqogp3.png
[05:38] <Royall> direct rendering: Yes
[05:38] <Royall> DaZ: ^
[05:38] <michael_jameson> i think it's all good
[05:38] <carbm2> mu, All the cd's contain the MEM86+ RAM test... that is a good place to start.
[05:38] <DaZ> Royall: then it should work :f
[05:38] <michael_jameson> appreciate the info guys
[05:38] <Nitrodist> IonutB, looksl ike your repo is down
[05:38] <Sirisian> DigitalKiwi, http://pastebin.com/m26221639 What exactly am I looking for? Do you have a i386 directory with stuff in it in the arch folder?
[05:38] <Royall> DaZ: nope, I don't have desktop wall or animations or nothing
[05:39] <IonutB> Nitrodist, do you mean the server is down ?
[05:39] <mu> carbm2: Thanks, that was the first tool I used and I let it run for half an hour before stopping it with no errors. Which is good, because my memory came defective and I just got it back. I'm thinking more specifically of the hard disk drive.
[05:39] <Nitrodist> IonutB, just try pinging the server that you're trying to download from
[05:39] <Sirisian> DigitalKiwi, I know I'm looking for a definition of sys_getpid or something but I don't see anything like that
[05:39] <Nitrodist> IonutB, ro.archive.ubuntu.com
[05:39] <IonutB> Nitrodist, ok then. can i borrow your sourcelist ? :)
[05:39] <carbm2> mu, Do you have any data on the hard drives yet?
[05:40] <mu> Yes, Ubuntu. And a Windows XP partition that won't boot up; In either case I have no problem wiping either.
[05:40] <mu> Nothing important on here.
[05:40] <DigitalKiwi> os.h:extern int os_getpid(void); my bet is this one but I'm not sure
[05:40] <mu> I get a "CRC error" when selecting the install option from the LiveCD, wondering if it is my HDD or opt drive...
[05:41] <IonutB> Nitrodist, the pink is ~ ok : 10 packets transmitted, 10 received, 0% packet loss, time 9011ms ( isn't it too much time ? )
[05:41] <mu> At any rate, booting from the CD to a desktop and installing it from there worked.
[05:41] <IonutB> *ping
[05:41] <carbm2> mu, Since you have data I would consider downloading the manufacturer's diagnostics and just running a full test to be on the safe side. After that there really isn't much else.  I was thinking you could zero write your drive through ubuntu live disc or something but I wouldn't want you to lose anything.
[05:41] <Nitrodist> IonutB, hmm, then I'm out of ideas :P
[05:42] <carbm2> mu, if your getting a crc error just while booting from the CD usually means a bad download or bad burn not anything to do with the hard drive. (i've been wrong before though)
[05:42] <mu> Well literally all of my data is on a different disc, I have no trouble wiping, but I could just use the manufacturers tools. Probably not Linux compatible but perhaps burnable...
[05:42] <IonutB> Nitrodist, should i try to edit my source.list from "ro".archive.ubuntu.com in "en".archive.ubuntu.com ? ( change the server )
[05:42] <mu> Also, the "Check disc for defects" turns up no errors.
[05:42] <Nitrodist> IonutB, I wouldn't advise that
[05:42] <carbm2> mu, weird then.  I would use manufactures tests because it will give you better information from your drive.
[05:43] <Nitrodist> IonutB, sounds like you're using a localized language version of ubuntu
[05:43] <Sirisian> DigitalKiwi, my professor made this sound trivial. "Go edit the getpid() to use printk and some other stuff. That os.h file is for another architecture and is just a declaration.
[05:43] <IonutB> Nitrodist, not really. my language is in english :)
[05:43] <mu> Yeah, weird, I have a feeling that the motherboard drivers I installed on XP caused it to stop working... that, however, is not a Linux problem, so I'll bite it and format/reinstall/and see what I can do.
[05:43] <mu> Thanks.
[05:44] <Nitrodist> IonutB, then do that :P
[05:44] <ous6> hi i need help with ubuntu, my wireless is not working
[05:45] <carbm2> ous6, did I hear you say earlier that you have already installed the inf using ndiswrapper?
[05:45] <soreau> ous6: Which wifi card do you have reported by lspci?
[05:45] <isola73dsh33p> hey peeps
[05:45] <isola73dsh33p> nebody home?
[05:46] <isola73dsh33p> ...
[05:46] <isola73dsh33p> hello
[05:46] <soreau> isola73dsh33p: Nope, you're all alone
[05:46] <carbm2> isola73dsh33p, lots of people home.
[05:46] <isola73dsh33p> =_=
[05:46] <IonutB> Nitrodist, it's working now with "en" instead of "ro" :-p.
[05:46] <isola73dsh33p> guys do u hv problem with ur video player?
[05:46] <IonutB> btw, "http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu" stills ignored.
[05:47] <isola73dsh33p> ...
[05:47] <wgrant> IonutB: Which file in particular?
[05:47] <isola73dsh33p> so?
[05:47] <isola73dsh33p> ...
[05:47] <soreau> isola73dsh33p: Don't talk like a baby.  What is the line that tells you that?
[05:48] <soreau> isola73dsh33p: This is a support channel for ubuntu
[05:48] <carbm2> isola73dsh33p,  I'm running 9.10 and my Movie Player is working fine. What problem are you experiencing?
[05:48] <IonutB> wgrant, ah, ok. just a moment to take a printscreen.
[05:48] <carbm2> Raven\,  just burn the ISO and reboot and boot off the cd.
[05:48] <isola73dsh33p> the video is so slow when in full screen
[05:49] <IonutB> wgrant, take a look here, pls : http://i38.tinypic.com/2uf9h1g.png
[05:49] <wgrant> IonutB: Ah, that's just the translation files.
[05:50] <DigitalKiwi> wow linus' git branch is like 500 MB for the kernel :(
[05:50] <isola73dsh33p> ..
[05:50] <isola73dsh33p> huwm..
[05:50] <Raven\> carbm2: i dont need to extrak it?
[05:50] <carbm2> isola73dsh33p, I don't guess I have had a problem myself.  What exactly are you watching? Anything specific.
[05:50] <wgrant> IonutB: Since the package indices are already in English, there are no English translations, so it can't download them.
[05:50] <IonutB> wgrant, aww, tnx :D
[05:50] <carbm2> Raven\, No, you simply need to burn it using a CD Burning software.
[05:50] <Raven\> oh ok
[05:51] <wgrant> Raven\: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[05:51] <isola73dsh33p> i'm not sure the name of the software but i'm trying to play mp4 files
[05:51] <soreau> ! pm | ous6
[05:51] <soreau> ! broadcom | ous6
[05:51] <DigitalKiwi> actually way more :(
[05:52] <ous6> k
[05:52] <isola73dsh33p> btw, is 9.10 working fine?
[05:52] <lao5> isola73dsh33p: not really now
[05:52] <wgrant> isola73dsh33p: Yep. It will be released in four days (but discussion about it belongs in #ubuntu+1)
[05:53] <isola73dsh33p> so its better to stick with 9.04 right?
[05:53] <carbm2> isola73dsh33p, did you install the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' yet? Just to make sure you have all the plugins for the mp4?
[05:53] <ubuntu> does anyone know how to unlock services?
[05:53] <isola73dsh33p> i not sure which it is..
[05:53] <ubuntu> system > administration > services... anyone know how to unlock?
[05:53] <isola73dsh33p> but when i try to play the mp4 files, a package is suggested..
[05:54] <isola73dsh33p> but i have not install that..
[05:54] <wgrant> ubuntu: There is no little unlock icon along the bottom?
[05:54] <Billiard> ubuntu: type in your password?
[05:54] <carbm2> isola73dsh33p, I would stick with your 9.04 until 9.10 is released.  Also, you might try doing "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras -y" in a terminal and see if your video playback gets any better.
[05:54] <isola73dsh33p> the one with 18 files
[05:54] <ubuntu> wgrant, yes there is but it's not active
[05:54] <isola73dsh33p> ok.. i'll try it now.. thanks :)
[05:54] <carbm2> isola73dsh33p, the command I just gave you will do a lot of installs... Flash, Java, Proprietary Video Codecs and such.  Very useful
[05:55] <Raven\> can i use a software burner called nero ?
[05:55] <ubuntu> wgrant, the only active buttons are help and close
[05:55] <carbm2> Raven\, that would be PERFECT!
[05:55] <ubuntu> i'm not being prompted for the password
[05:55] <Raven\> what speed is ok?
[05:56] <isola73dsh33p> *downloading*
[05:56] <isola73dsh33p> what's actually new in gnome 2.8 or something?
[05:56] <carbm2> ous6, "sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter"  Then tell it to download the firmware. The rest is automated and you will need to restart for your wireless to work.
[05:57] <o2Do> hey all, my CD drive is dead, no usb boot support, and I am already running ubuntu, but I want to start fresh...any way to do this?
[05:57] <carbm2> Raven\, usually the fasted it shows is the fastest the disc will support. So just leave it at default.
[05:58] <soreau> o2Do: get a new cdrom driver already
[05:58] <carbm2> o2Do, do you want to start the entire system over or just your account? You could simply create a new user.
[05:58] <soreau> ous6: Get a working cdrom drive if it's not a laptop even
[05:58] <ubuntu> anyone know how to unlock services settings?
[05:58] <Billiard> o2Do: cd drives are 5 dollars, or install from network, or take hard drive out install on another computer
[05:58] <soreau> ubuntu: What do you mean by that?
[05:58] <isola73dsh33p> what's new in gnome 2.28?
[05:59] <ubuntu> soreau, i can't unlock it or edit it
[05:59] <soreau> ubuntu: it?
[05:59] <ubuntu> it's all grey - inactive
[05:59] <ubuntu> services setttings
[05:59] <o2Do> I installed via network last time, but the computer I used is dead now :(
[05:59] <Billiard> ubuntu, are you able to use other "unlock" buttons
[05:59] <o2Do> I want a fresh start
[05:59] <soreau> ubuntu: Not sure what you mean by 'services setttings'
[05:59] <carbm2> isola73dsh33p, http://library.gnome.org/misc/release-notes/2.28/#rnusers
[05:59] <ubuntu> billiard, where would other ones be?
[05:59] <ous6> soreau: my laptop has a working cdrom
[06:00] <carbm2> ous6, did you try that command for your wireless?
[06:00] <ubuntu> soreau, system >admin>services
[06:00] <Billiard> ubuntu: some of the other items under administration have them
[06:00] <sohrab> hi all
[06:00] <ubuntu> it's called "services settings" :)
[06:00] <soreau> ous6: Gah, auto-tab-completion fail. that was meant for o2Do
[06:00] <ous6> carbm2: yes
[06:00] <sohrab> Billiard, come to pm
[06:01] <carbm2> ous6, is it still downloading or did it work???
[06:01] <isola73dsh33p> this cheese thing, is it new?
[06:01] <soreau> ubuntu: What happens when you click on the unlock button there?
[06:01] <o2Do> there are no options to just like do a recovery from terminal or something?
[06:01] <ubuntu> soreau, nothing happens. it's inactive
[06:02] <ubuntu> billiard, what other items have them? i'm not finding any eyt
[06:02] <ous6> carbm2: am downloading both
[06:02] <Billiard> ubuntu: are you able to sudo?
[06:02] <soreau> ubuntu: What do you mean nothing happens?
[06:02] <soreau> ubuntu: You're not being very specific
[06:02] <ubuntu> soreau, i mean nothing happens. how else can i explain that?
[06:02] <carbm2> o2Do, I would simply create a new user then go through synaptic and PURGE what you don't want.
[06:03] <Billiard> soreau: his button is disabled, unclickable
[06:03] <carbm2> o2Do, without a CDROM I can't think of a good way to do this.
[06:03] <o2Do> will that delete hidden directories?
[06:04] <Deihmos> i need to find out how to make ubuntu look half way decent. the ui is ugly compared to windows 7
[06:04] <carbm2> o2Do, Should if the package installed them.  If you create a new user hidden configuration directories won't exist under that user until the programs are run but you going to delete them anyways so whats the worry?
[06:04] <soreau> ubuntu: Run it from your terminal and see if there is any output: services-admin
[06:04] <o2Do> ok, I think I follow you
[06:05] <ous6> carbm2: i have downloaded the files, how do i install them
[06:05] <ubuntu> billiard, soreau, i tried sudo services-admin & .... terminal said "[1] 5665"... then "[1]+ Stopped"..
[06:05] <carbm2> Deihmos, http://tinyurl.com/yzdxnbm   ... what do you think?
[06:05] <carbm2> ous6, did you tell it to download the firmware when it installed?
[06:05] <ubuntu> soreau, services-admin opens the same window
[06:05] <ubuntu> "services settings"
[06:06] <supertimmy> Hello. I am trying to connect to my work VPN (L2TP IPsec) in Ubuntu 9.04. I have a certificate as well as a pre-shared key. Is there an wasy way to set this up using the network mnager or do I have to go down the Open/StrongSwan route?
[06:06] <carbm2> ubuntu, then try alt+f2 then "gksu services-admin"
[06:06] <Deihmos> that can't compare to how win 7 looks. maybe i need to install something because the fonts and colors look really dull
[06:06] <soreau> ubuntu: Well you're not supposed to run it with sudo
[06:06] <ous6> carbm2: downloaded using a different laptop
[06:06] <o2Do> I ran:  tar cf o2Do_home.tar /home after cd /media/disk (external HDD) that will back up all my crap right?
[06:07] <carbm2> ous6, can't do that... you need to do it on the laptop itself.  You may have to plug it in for the time being.
[06:07] <ous6> i just have wifi
[06:07] <ubuntu> soreau, ya i tried it without too
[06:07] <soreau> o2Do: You should use /home/*
[06:07] <carbm2> ous6, If you have wifi then you surely have a plug somewhere....
[06:08] <carbm2> o2Do, that should work though...
[06:08] <ubuntu> carbm2, it opens the same "services settings" window
[06:08] <soreau> o2Do: It will create a tarball containing all your files and directories in /home
[06:08] <CaptainMorgan> not sure if I be asking here or on #windows... grub shows ubuntu and windows. To get into ubuntu, I need to set AHCI in BIOS to enabled, whereas if I want to get into windows I need it to be disabled... obviously, I major inconvenience... any thoughts?
[06:08] <ous6> ethernet port is not working
[06:08] <carbm2> ubuntu, but by doing the gksu first it opens it with administrative privledges.
[06:08] <o2Do> it is taking a while :D I will check before moving forward though
[06:09] <CaptainMorgan> ubuntu hangs as reboots, sometimes giving errors about the hdd if I chose when it AHCI is not enabled...
[06:09] <ubuntu> carbm2, ok cool but, it doesn't seem to work..
[06:09] <carbm2> ous6, ok, then you may need to copy the contents of /var/cache/apt from your laptop to the other to install.   I have no idea if that will work though.
[06:09] <CaptainMorgan> s/as/and/
[06:09] <ous6> carbm2, k
[06:10] <maco> CaptainMorgan: you're not my brother, are you?
[06:10] <CaptainMorgan> maco, and why would you believe or disbelieve that?
[06:11] <maco> CaptainMorgan: because my brother goes by that nick and uses ubuntu
[06:11] <jonathan1> .
[06:11] <o2Do> errrrm...do you think it is possible to network install ubuntu from a VM running on a windows PC?
[06:11] <maco> CaptainMorgan: though thats not a sentence he would've said, so im guessing "no"
[06:11] <ubuntu> marco, i am your father
[06:11] <Sirisian> Does anyone here have the ubuntu source code downloaded for the kernel? Can someone verify that that the arch/i386 folder only contains a folder called "boot"
[06:11] <ubuntu> join the dark side :)
[06:11] <morpheuss> hi
[06:11] <carbm2> o2Do, absolutely... not easy but absolutely.
[06:11] <ous6> carbm2, what is /var/cache/apt
[06:12] <o2Do> I did a network install before...is it any harder than that :)
[06:12] <morpheuss> how can we delete bash history not by command or opening /user/.bash_history?
[06:12] <maco> Sirisian: there is no arch/i386 folder when i look...
[06:12] <carbm2> ous6, its your updates and cached DEB files....
[06:12]  * CaptainMorgan thinks maco might have the good Captain confused for another captain of a similar handle - there is only ONE CaptainMorgan
[06:12] <ous6> carbm2, is that in the broadcom file?
[06:12] <maco> CaptainMorgan: my dad and brother both use that name, since our last name is morgan and we have a boat :P
[06:12] <Sirisian> maco, you're telling me you have linux-2.8.28 or something and there's no arch folder?
[06:12] <carbm2> o2Do, Yes... you will need to modify your DHCP server to offer BOOTP and setup a TFTP server. Extract the kernel from the ISO and setup PXELinux on the TFP server.
[06:13] <CaptainMorgan> #offtopic
[06:13] <CaptainMorgan> !offtopic
[06:13] <maco> Sirisian: i have 2.6.31 and theres an arch folder, yeah, but it doesnt contain i386
[06:13] <carbm2> ous6, the broadcom file should be in there somewhere....
[06:13] <maco> Sirisian: it has: alpha  avr32     cris  h8300  Kconfig  m68k       microblaze  mn10300  powerpc  sh     um   xtensa arm    blackfin  frv   ia64   m32r     m68knommu  mips        parisc   s390     sparc  x86
[06:13] <Sirisian> interesting maco. Is there an arch/x86 then?
[06:13] <carbm2> ous6, and hopefully all the dependencies of it so thats why I was telling you to take the whole folder.
[06:13] <maco> Sirisian: yes x86
[06:13] <maco> Sirisian: that has about a dozen directories below it
[06:14] <Sirisian> maco, ah okay thanks. Just verifying. I noticed a few tutorials reference that directory. I'm wondering if they changed things.
[06:14]  * carbm2 will be right back.
[06:14] <ous6> carbm2, how do i install that file in ubuntu
[06:15] <mzawieska> hello
[06:15] <mzawieska> good morning everyone
[06:15] <mzawieska> if there is some1 here :/
[06:16]  * mojo_o wave enthusiastically at mzawieska
[06:16] <mzawieska> lol
[06:16] <mzawieska> :)
[06:16] <morpheuss> you cant see 1344 ppl around :P
[06:16] <mzawieska> is there I way to install itunes
[06:16] <mojo_o> you could try wine
[06:16] <jalkjd> a
[06:16] <mzawieska> cause i have iphone
[06:17] <rockstarrem> mzawieska: i believe PlayOnLinux has an option to install iTunes, haven't tried it myself though
[06:17] <maco> mzawieska: no, apple's not that ready to admit there's an alternative. rhythmbox may be able to transfer songs to it...
[06:17] <mzawieska> oh sh*t totaly forgot about that
[06:17] <carbm2> ous6, You will need to copy that entire folder to a flash drive or burn it to a CD. Then copy it back to the same place on the other laptop.
[06:17] <Lord_R> how can i install ubuntu via usb?
[06:17] <DigitalKiwi> !usb
[06:17] <xiambax> i wish rhythmbox would display my itune shares properly. i cant get it to work in 9.10
[06:17] <Lord_R> do i need Unetbootin?
[06:17] <o2Do> is there anyway I can partition my HDD, and then install ubuntu from within ubuntu on to that partition, then add it to GRUB, boot into it and delete my old ubuntu?
[06:18] <mzawieska> but there is a way to install itunes the newest relese thru wine
[06:18] <mzawieska> correct/
[06:18] <maco> xiambax: downgrade itunes to itunes 6
[06:18] <ous6> carbm2, same place? i dont understand. i have the file transferred on the ubuntu desktop using a usb
[06:18] <maco> xiambax: itunes 7 has encryption to prevent non-itunes clients from seeings its shares
[06:18] <carbm2> o2Do,  not that I know of.
[06:18] <xiambax> downgrade by 3 versions. no thanks
[06:18] <o2Do> darn
[06:19] <Lord_R> Put Ubuntu CD to your cd drive. Dismiss possible automatic pop-ups.  ->if i dont have a cd? can i still install via usB?
[06:19] <xiambax> I have simplifymedia running on it
[06:19] <maco> xiambax: 3? i thought 7 was the newest. theyre on 9 now?
[06:19] <xiambax> so anything doing upnp should work fine no?
[06:19] <mojo_o> o2Do: i know you can do it with other distros, so there's probably a way
[06:19] <xiambax> YEa
[06:19] <o2Do> I found a tut that does it from windows, so I was hoping I could from ubuntu
[06:19] <xiambax> Yeah. I tunes 9
[06:19] <mojo_o> o2Do: it's not easy
[06:19] <mzawieska> so itunes 9 can be install tru wine
[06:20] <maco> xiambax: wow. ok. well umm...yeah, apple doesnt want you to share music, thus you dont share music. and you thought it was your computer, eh?
[06:20] <mzawieska> cause i want to upgrade my iphone :/
[06:20] <mojo_o> wine itunes status: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=application&iId=1347
[06:20] <maco> mzawieska: dont know. check the wine app db
[06:20] <maco> mzawieska: we're talking about a different itunes problem
[06:20] <mzawieska> aha
[06:20] <carbm2> ous6, the laptop you ran that command on has a folder "/var/cache/apt" .. You want to take EVERYTHING in that folder and copy it to the other laptop and put that folder in "/var/cache/apt" and overwrite everything. Then run "sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter" on the other laptop. Then it shouldn't need an internet connection to install the driver.
[06:21] <mojo_o> mzawieska: looks like it doesn't run on ubuntu, just arch linux is listed as working
[06:21] <xiambax> i need anything that can play a upnp stream
[06:21] <xiambax> i have simplify media
[06:21] <mzawieska> so there is no way i could install itunes on ubuntu
[06:21] <mzawieska> :<
[06:22] <mzawieska> so sad
[06:22] <mzawieska> :/
[06:22] <mojo_o> well it's only rated bronze on arch, looks like it's pretty crap everywhere
[06:23] <xiambax> rhythmbox loads like 10 songs then stops
[06:23] <mzawieska> LOL
[06:23] <mzawieska> http://www.linuxscrew.com/2007/09/19/install-itunes-72-in-ubuntu-and-other-linux-distros/
[06:24] <mzawieska> what do you guys think about this tutorial?
[06:24] <DigitalKiwi> arch > ubuntu then, mojo_o ? >.>
[06:24] <Billiard> mzawieska: even if you can install and run itunes you probably cant update your iphone
[06:24] <DigitalKiwi> bronce is better than nothing!
[06:24] <o2Do> well the tut says: get linux.bin and initrd.gz; edit GRUB menu.lst  and add that path, then from GRUB it runs like a network install
[06:24] <DigitalKiwi> s/c/z/
[06:25] <TinSammich> Trying to figure out a battery problem. Ubuntu quits at around 50% battery but when I log onto vista i still have around 50% charge. Any ideas?
[06:25] <o2Do> how does that sound?
[06:25] <DaZ> DigitalKiwi: bronze usually means 'menu loads'
[06:25] <ous6> carbm2, i cant paste the folder into /var/cache/apt, it say permission denied
[06:25] <mzawieska> but at least i can manage my songs and videos
[06:25] <DigitalKiwi> DaZ: hehe
[06:25] <mzawieska> :<
[06:25] <DaZ> hell, even silver or sometimes gold
[06:25] <mzawieska> I am sick of the songs I been listening past a year or so
[06:25] <DaZ> people on appdb are just overenthusiastic ;f
[06:25] <carbm2> ous6, hit alt+f2 then type "gksu nautilus" then do it.
[06:26] <xiambax> http://i33.tinypic.com/20jrec7.png see.... it loads 7 songs and then stops.
[06:26] <xiambax> i have like 2000 songs on underworld
[06:27] <DaZ> xiambax: any console output? :f
[06:27] <DaZ> nice desktop btw
[06:27] <xiambax> What logs would i look in?
[06:27] <mzawieska> :<have you guys heard about codeweavers cross over
[06:27] <mzawieska> cross over mac cross over games cross over linux
[06:28] <DaZ> xiambax: run it from the console
[06:28] <ous6> carbm2, i did that, it still say denied
[06:28] <xiambax> yeah. i got a bunch of free copys of codeweaves when they lost that bet
[06:28] <DaZ> crashes usually print something ;f
[06:28] <mojo_o> mzawieska: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[06:29] <carbm2> ous6,  I don't know how it could be denied when your running as root.
[06:29] <o2Do> I am sorry but can I do a fresh reinstall from recovery mode?
[06:30] <mzawieska> this seems to confusing to me
[06:30] <mzawieska> :<
[06:31] <ous6> carbm2, i copied it, whats next?
[06:31] <carbm2> o2Do, seriously?  Your really not wanting to buy a new cdrom huh?   It shouldn't be that hard to cleanup what you have now though.
[06:31] <carbm2> ous6, at the terminal type "sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter"
[06:31] <mojo_o> mzawieska: it basically means install windows via virtualbox. it's running windows inside linux.
[06:31] <xiambax> DaZ, http://pastebin.com/m4e15b1ba
[06:32] <mzawieska> yea
[06:32] <DaZ> xiambax: doesn't look important >:
[06:32] <o2Do> I do not feel like replacing my laptops cd drive :( and I was hoping to do this tonight.
[06:32] <Deihmos> i was trying to make ubuntu look a little better but it seems that everything requires multiple steps unlike windows
[06:33] <carbm2> o2Do, well... I understand that.  However, I dont' think its going to work out for ya.
[06:33] <carbm2> Deihmos, what did you think of that picture earlier?
[06:33] <xiambax> http://pastebin.com/m14104a7c DeZ
[06:33] <xiambax> I can play the few songs it loads. they stream and even pull album artwork
[06:34] <ous6> carbm, it say : could not find package b43-fwcutter
[06:34] <Deihmos> i thought it looked dull
[06:34] <Deihmos> colors are not vibrant on this
[06:35] <xiambax> http://i33.tinypic.com/35irn2c.png see
[06:35] <carbm2> Deihmos, are you wanting pink or purple???
[06:36] <bigfootbuilt> Is anyone here using Xchat on Ubuntu? If so, I have an annoying problem here
[06:36] <xiambax> Im using x-chat
[06:36] <carbm2> bigfootbuilt, I just started using it.
[06:37] <nevets04> in adsense if i put more adds on webpage do i get more money?
[06:37] <bigfootbuilt> xiambax: carbm2: Well, after I submit my text, it shows up as a faded gray color and I can't hardly see it. I cannot find the color option to change it. I can only change the colors of my nickname, etc
[06:37] <carbm2> ous6, I can't find any information on that right now... give me a sec.
[06:37] <bazhang> !ot | nevets04
[06:37] <bigfootbuilt> Everyone elses text is bright white
[06:38] <carbm2> bigfootbuilt, I do edit>prefs>colors>white on black which makes it easier to read.
[06:38] <xiambax> Prefs, Interface, Colours, Colour 14 and 15, maybe 30 and 31 too
[06:38] <bigfootbuilt> carb2: I got that part, but I can't change my own text that displays once I submit
[06:38] <xiambax> yes
[06:39] <xiambax> Yeah. I just edited mine
[06:39] <xiambax> It fixed the issue i was having too
[06:39] <xiambax> I just never change it cause it doesnt bother me
[06:39] <xiambax> I know what im typing.
[06:39] <bigfootbuilt> I already forgot what I typed one minute ago bcause I can't see what I typed lol
[06:39] <xiambax> Im not as anal as you :D
[06:39] <xiambax> You figure it out?
[06:39] <bigfootbuilt> no
[06:39] <roger2> hello i am trying to find an updated driver for my laptop video card: ATI Rage Mobility M3 AGP 2X
[06:40] <carbm2> ous6, try "sudo dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/b43-fwcutter_1%3a012-1_i386.deb"
[06:40] <xiambax> Settings, Prefs, Interface, Colours..... Change colours 14, 15, 30, and 31.
[06:40] <roger2> i installed ubunto 9.04 on an old presario laptop and having problems with display
[06:40] <bigfootbuilt> k, will try
[06:41] <bigfootbuilt> --color test--
[06:42] <bigfootbuilt> --color test--
[06:42] <xiambax> it work?
[06:42] <carbm2> roger2, You should install Envy and let it install the driver for you.
[06:43] <Brando753> has ubuntu fixed the 2038 bug?
[06:43] <bigfootbuilt> xiambax: Looks like that was it. I could've sworn I already looked at all that. Thanks for the help
[06:43] <MasterBob> for some reason rhythmbox is completely freezing up on me. I can't get it to play any music. lyrics work, album images work, except it doesn't play any music. I have a large music library, but I can't figure out what's wrong with it. once it freezes it just doesn't stop. if i close it out and open it again, it still freezes.
[06:43] <xiambax> No problem
[06:43] <mgmuscari> has anybody seen this yet: http://tinyurl.com/nw2cw2
[06:43] <roger2> ok where would i get envy..i am a total noob..should i just google it?
[06:44] <ous6> carbm2, it gave me options
[06:44] <DigitalKiwi> mgmuscari: old news is old
[06:44] <xiambax> old new mgmuscari
[06:44] <bazhang> mgmuscari, that is offtopic here
[06:44] <xiambax> s/news
[06:44] <carbm2> roger2, System>Administration, Synaptic ... then search for Envy.
[06:45] <carbm2> ous6, what kind of options?
[06:45] <WilliamC2> How do I reconfigure my display driver?
[06:45] <mgmuscari> ah, i thought it was 2 days old
[06:45] <mgmuscari> but now i see that this is a mirror of the post
[06:45] <WilliamC2> I installed some updates and now my video card isn't working.
[06:46] <mgmuscari> either way - i hadn't seen it yet... been living in a hole lately :)
[06:46] <MK13> i am trying to set up a static ip for my ubuntu machine, I have it set to the same ip range that the router gives out, but when using the static address i can't even ping to the router, any suggestions?
[06:46] <darthanubis> !details | WilliamC2
[06:46] <mgmuscari> WilliamC2: what video driver are you using?
[06:46] <WilliamC2> NVidia
[06:46] <darthanubis> !nvidia
[06:46] <maco> MK13: check your route
[06:46] <maco> MK13: route -n
[06:46] <mgmuscari> WilliamC2: if you're having trouble running X, you can configure your display through /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:47] <MK13> maco, what should i look for?
[06:47] <Ademan> is there a way to select the run level for a live CD ?
[06:47] <mgmuscari> WilliamC2: what do you mean by it's "not working?"
[06:47] <maco> MK13: pastebin it and lemme have a look
[06:47] <carbm2> MK13, are you editing your /etc/network/interfaces file for your static or are you using Network Manager to configure it?
[06:47] <WilliamC2> I installed updates and it wouldn't start unless I reset my display settings
[06:47] <MasterBob> anyone, for some reason rhythmbox is completely freezing up on me. I'm on ubuntu 9.04. everything works except playing the actual music, even the music bar doesn't move. eventually the window will gray out. i have closed it and opened it several times and it still hasn't "unfroze".
[06:48] <maco> Ademan: "telinit" after boot? itd be kinda silly. i mean, you have 4 options. shut down, single user, on, and reboot
[06:48] <ous6> carbm2,this is the output:dpkg: unknown option -/
[06:48] <mgmuscari> WilliamC2: you mean X wouldn't start? what do you mean reset your display settings?
[06:48] <onlinebro> MasterBob: did it ever work?
[06:48] <maco> Ademan: ubuntu, like debian, has runlevels 2-5 set to "use a disply manager if one is installed". all 4 of those runlevels are exactly the same
[06:48] <MasterBob> onlinebro, yes, works all the time. just started to do this a few days ago
[06:49] <MasterBob> let me run it in terminal and give you a pastebin.
[06:49] <Ademan> maco: any other options for preventing x from starting? still can't get gdm to die...
[06:49] <onlinebro> ok
[06:49] <Ademan> maco: really? we have no single user runlevel?
[06:49] <maco> Ademan: there is single user
[06:49] <carbm2> ous6, Try alt+f2 type "gksu nautilus".  Browse to /var/cache/apt/archives. Double click on b43-fwcutterXXXXXX.deb. then click install. See what happens then.
[06:49] <maco> Ademan: thats 1. but 2-5 are all the same.
[06:50] <MasterBob> onlinebro, can't figure out how to get rhythmbox to give me details..it just opens the app and that's it
[06:50] <Ademan> maco: yeah ok, well, the problem with telinit is getting to a terminal in time to prevent gdm from starting in the first place.
[06:50] <Ademan> i might give it a shot though
[06:50] <zooyork20021> can someone help me? i dont know how to install a program i downloaded
[06:51] <mgmuscari> zooyork20021: there's probably a README or INSTALL file included
[06:51] <Ademan> zooyork20021: you generally don't download the software you want to install, what is the program?
[06:51] <maco> Ademan: you can edit the boot  line from the live cd splash screen
[06:51] <rockstarrem> zooyork20021 what program, link?
[06:51] <bazhang> zooyork20021, what program downloaded from where
[06:51] <maco> Ademan: maybe set "1" in there?
[06:51] <zooyork20021> its an audiodriver by realtek
[06:51] <nianswer> hello
[06:51] <onlinebro> MasterBob: so when u run from console there are no errors?
[06:51] <nianswer> i have a prob in my terminal
[06:51] <Blehk> Anyway have ideas why this is failing..? And if there's a solution (Pacemaker)
[06:51] <rockstarrem> can i have the link to where you downloaded it zooyork?
[06:51] <Blehk> http://pastie.org/668729
[06:51] <MasterBob> onlinebro, it just opens the app. see:
[06:52] <mgmuscari> zooyork20021: do you know which audio subsystem it's for?
[06:52] <MasterBob> psinetic@psinetic-desktop:~$ rhythmbox
[06:52] <MasterBob> psinetic@psinetic-desktop:~$
[06:52] <ous6> carbm2, there is no b43-fwcutterXXXXXX.deb. in var/cache/apt/archives
[06:52] <Ademan> maco: haha, you think that will work? i never saw any reference to an option to set runlevel
[06:52] <mgmuscari> zooyork20021: alsa, pulseaudio, etc
[06:52] <Blehk> ah, need to install heartbeat from source apparently.
[06:52] <Blehk> nevermind.
[06:52] <maco> Ademan: when booting a kernel from hard disk you can put "1" at the end of the kernel boot line...so why not?
[06:52] <onlinebro> MasterBob: try rhythmbox -d
[06:52] <Ademan> maco: i didn't know that... thanks! i'll definitely give it a shot
[06:52] <zooyork20021> i got it from http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PNid=24&PFid=24&Level=4&Conn=3&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false
[06:53] <maco> Ademan: at least im pretty sure its the number 1, it might be the word single, but i think it the number 1, no quotes
[06:53] <Ademan> maco: alright cool, i'll google for a sec, and in absense of any confirmation, try both, thanks again
[06:53] <carbm2> ous6, ok, I don't know how to fix this.... You may need to get your hands temporarily on a wired NIC or a wireless card or USB wifi that you can use temp until you can install b43-fwcutter.
[06:54] <carbm2> ous6, I just think your going to need internet access to make this work.
[06:54] <MasterBob> onlinebro, http://pastebin.com/m300b4278
[06:54] <zooyork20021> i dont know what you mean by subsystem but im trying to get my headset that has a mic on it to work
[06:54] <mgmuscari> zooyork20021: so first you have to extract this somewhere
[06:54] <ous6> carbm2, how can i install b43-fwcutter
[06:54] <zooyork20021> ok i extracted it to my desktop
[06:54] <onlinebro> MasterBob: does your sound output work otherwise? other players?
[06:54] <mgmuscari> eh
[06:55] <mgmuscari> i would make a folder somewhere else and work from there
[06:55] <MasterBob> onlinebro, let me check
[06:55] <roger2> carbm2 i did a search for envy and it lists 4 packages, which is the one for video card
[06:55] <MK13> barbm2, i am editing /etc/network/interfaces
[06:55] <mgmuscari> ok, these drivers are for alsa
[06:55] <mgmuscari> ubuntu supports alsa
[06:55] <mgmuscari> extract the files, then read the Readme.txt file
[06:55] <mgmuscari> and install file
[06:55] <carbm2> MK13, can you pastebin your interfaces file?
[06:56] <carbm2> roger2, envy-gtk and go ahead and to envy-qt.  After it is install you go to Applications > System Tools > Envy and let it do its thing.
[06:56] <MasterBob> onlinebro, works on vlc and movie player, doesn't work on mplayer or rhythmbox
[06:57] <WilliamC2> It says "Failed to load NVIDIA Kernel Module"
[06:57] <carbm2> MK13, also pastebin "ifconfig"
[06:57] <mgmuscari> WilliamC2: did you update your nvidia driver? maybe the version number changed?
[06:57] <WilliamC2> No updates
[06:58] <CaptainMorgan> does anybody know how to automatically have the folder ~/PDF in lowercase? when you create through say, an export from OpenOffice, pdfs are put in this folder... any way to change it or customize this? I checked the individual apps themselves that I'm exporting from and while I was able to change the name of the location, it didn't prevent ~/PDF from being capitalized
[06:58] <onlinebro> MasterBob: interesting
[06:58] <MasterBob> sure is
[06:58] <MasterBob> i did some googling around and found a few things on it just freezing, but i didn't find any fixes
[07:00] <roger2> carbm2: is there a package that can make my sound card work
[07:01] <MasterBob> roger that's a pretty broad question
[07:01] <MK13> maco, this is my route -n output http://pastebin.org/48075
[07:01] <roger2> let me find the name of card i have,,one moment please
[07:02] <WilliamC2> http://www.pastebin.org/48076
[07:02] <WilliamC2> That's my error log
[07:02] <onlinebro> MasterBob: so the same mp3s that dont player in mplayer and rhythmbox do play in vlc?
[07:02] <MasterBob> yes
[07:02] <maco> MK13: and your ip address is in the 192.168.0.x range
[07:02] <carbm2> roger2, I'm sorry I wouldn't know.
[07:02] <maco> ?
[07:02] <xtoverus> thats weird
[07:02] <MK13> maco, yes, it is working now though O.o
[07:03] <maco> MK13: any chance thats an intel wireless card? ive had such "no packets moving" silliness for short periods after connecting at some cafes
[07:03]  * carbm2 is out.  hitting the sack.
[07:03] <WilliamC2> I installed my display driver on its own months ago
[07:03] <MK13> maco, it is an old wired nic
[07:04] <ous6> carbm, thanks for your help
[07:04] <carbm2> ous6, wish I could have got it working for you.  Still think your going to need temp internet access. Your welcome!
[07:04] <phix> Hey
[07:04] <LSD|Ninja> Is there a menubar-based system monitor for GNOME that uses dropdowns for extended info (instead of required seperate icons for each temperature/speed/whatever you want to monitor? Like istat for OS X: http://www.islayer.com/apps/istatmenus/
[07:05] <Psinetic> maco, you're ip, depending on your router, either starts at <IP_ADDRESS> or <IP_ADDRESS>
[07:05] <phix> I am back to offer my Ubuntu experience, who is having some issues they want solved? :)  within topic of course
[07:05] <mgmuscari> Psinetic: or 192.168.0.xxx
[07:05] <Brando753> has ubuntu fixed the 2038 bug?
[07:05] <maco> Psinetic: or 192.168.0.x in MK13's case
[07:05] <xtoverus> I cant get any sound from my headphones unless the jack is 2/3 in the port, any more or less and I get nothing.. anyone else ever have the problem and maybe no how to fix it?
[07:05] <Psinetic> maco what kind of router do you have?
[07:05] <mgmuscari> Psinetic: or possible something totally different if his router is configured differently
[07:05] <maco> Psinetic: my connection is fine, k?
[07:05] <phix> LSD|Ninja: sure, just make one in python, should take you a few hours
[07:05] <maco> mgmuscari: or her, in my case
[07:05] <Psinetic> ok
[07:05] <Bhavic> Hey, Would anyone know how i can start up VNC on boot (just run the command "vncserver"
[07:05] <MK13> maco,carbm2 thanks for the help
[07:06] <maco> MK13: no problem
[07:06] <phix> xtoverus: depends on your sound hardware
[07:06] <phix> Bhavic: yes, put it in your boot script
[07:06] <Psinetic> onlinebro, i changed my nick from MasterBob to Psinetic, just a head'sup
[07:06] <onlinebro> thanks
[07:06] <Bhavic> phix: Where would the boot script be found?
[07:06] <phix> Bhavic: /etc/rc.local or create one in /etc/init.d and run update-rc.d
[07:06] <Bhavic> ah thanks!!!!
[07:06] <phix> Bhavic: there are several :)
[07:06] <one_> whats the difference between core 2 quad and quad core ?
[07:07] <xtoverus> phix, would that be in the sound manager?
[07:07] <phix> Bhavic: I recommand making a custom script and putting it in /etc/init.d then runing update-rc.d so it starts at boot time
[07:07] <Bhavic> Ahok.
[07:07] <kaptainkranium> So i'm trying to add Shiki-colors
[07:07] <phix> xtoverus: I am guessing it is hardware / driver related
[07:07] <Bhavic> Hmm custom script. Lets see, No idea how to lol!
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> Bhavic:  thers also ways to get vncserver tospawn as needed. but then you lose the  'persistant' running apps in the background feature that many people perfer.
[07:07] <kaptainkranium> so i went to ubuntu art
[07:07] <phix> Psinetic: why?
[07:08] <kaptainkranium> which told me to put this into my terminal:sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 2d79f61be8d31a30
[07:08] <Psinetic> phix, why what?
[07:08] <kaptainkranium> which I did
[07:08] <phix> Psinetic: why the nick change
[07:08] <kaptainkranium> and i'm not sure where to go from there
[07:08] <Psinetic> i was trying to change it to "here" but dunno how
[07:08] <Dr_Willis> Bhavic:  theres some guides on the running vnc at boot topic and some forum posts - depending on the details of what you want to do exactly
[07:08] <Psinetic> was testing around
[07:08] <Bhavic> Hmm ok thanks I'll have a look. I did have a look a while ago but found nothing useful
[07:08] <newklear85> hi, quick question... if i install 9.10 "RC", will it be updated to the final version in 4 days? or will i be stuck with the rc version?
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> Bhavic:  you dident look very much then. :) thers tons of info on vnc. but its a very flexiable tool. and a lot of people over look  some aspects of it.
[07:09] <mgmuscari> does somebody keep asking about the 2038 bug?
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> Bhavic:  you could just 'ssh' to the remote and start 'vncserver' when you need it.
[07:09] <Psinetic> phix, how do i change my status of "here"? oh, my usuall nick is "Psinetic" not MasterBob
[07:09] <Bhavic> Yea it's what id oatm.
[07:09] <phix> Psinetic: ah ok
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> newklear85:  it will Update... thats a fundamental feature of the package manager system...
[07:09] <phix> Psinetic: change your status?  in what?
[07:10] <Bhavic> But my customers can reboot from a button and i'd like it to start up automatically at boot ;P
[07:10] <Jimmio> newklear85: The packages will update, and I'm fairly sure it's considered a distribution upgrade... so yes. It will.
[07:10] <MrSchmo> when will 9.10 be out?
[07:10] <mgmuscari> Psinetic: are you referring to /away?
[07:10] <Psinetic> phix, in here. i'm currently set as "away" i want to be set as "here"
[07:10] <Psinetic> yes
[07:10] <Jimmio> MrSchmo: #ubuntu+1 for karmic. 29th.
[07:10] <phix> Psinetic: ok, type in /away
[07:10] <phix> Psinetic: in most IRC clients /away is a toggle command
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> Bhavic:  one (older guide) -> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/starting-vncserver-at-boot-using-rc.local-370993/
[07:10] <kaptainkranium> Can someone help me out with trying to install shiki-colors?
[07:11] <phix> (ie, it changes between the two depending on your current state)
[07:11] <Psinetic>  Already marked away: tired
[07:11] <Psinetic>  Usage: AWAY [<reason>], sets you away
[07:11] <phix> Psinetic: what IRC client?
[07:11] <Bhavic> Thank you Dr_Willis
[07:11] <Psinetic> xchat
[07:11] <mgmuscari> Psinetic: /away with no argument usually takes it off
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> Bhavic:  in rc.local (a line similer to ) -> you could use  'su - username vncserver &'
[07:11] <Psinetic> hmmm let me watch the memberlist as i do it
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> oops typo
[07:11] <Bhavic> Ahh
[07:11] <Psinetic> maybe i'm just not seeing it
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> Bhavic:  in rc.local (a line similer to ) -> you could use  'su -c  username vncserver &'
[07:12] <newklear85> thanks... so ill install ubuntu RC today and expect updates to make it the final version in 4 days ;)
[07:12] <Bhavic> ohhh
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> Bhavic:  that does NOT share the current desktop. :)
[07:12] <Psinetic> hi there phyrrus
[07:12] <phix> Psinetic: hmmmm
[07:12] <Bhavic> hmmok.
[07:12] <Jimmio> newklear85: You probably should just wait for release to be honest.
[07:12] <phix> Psinetic: Have you look at the documentation of xchat?
[07:12] <Psinetic> phix, nope, doesn't take me out of away mode
[07:12] <Psinetic> i'm new to irc really
[07:12] <phix> Psinetic: I don't use xchat any more (since they went commercial)
[07:13] <phix> Psinetic: I recommend using irssi in a screen
[07:13] <mgmuscari> can anybody think of any real advantages of going from 9.04 to 9.10?
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> There are free versions of xchat for windows still.
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> :)
[07:13] <Psinetic> irssi?
[07:13] <Jimmio> mgmuscari: It's new. New packages.
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> but i use weechat now for my main irc client.
[07:13] <phix> Psinetic: n?curses based irc client, I like it
[07:13] <Psinetic> onlinebro, any luck finding anything? i couldn't find it
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> mgmuscari:  its shiny.
[07:13] <mgmuscari> Jimmio: anything you're particularly excited about?
[07:13] <phix> Psinetic: have you used bitchX before?
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> mgmuscari:  this is linux.. upgrade or not.. it dosent matter to us. :)
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> Linux - 'Your OS , Your Way'
[07:14] <Psinetic> hahaha, no, i usually just use xchat as it's on the os
[07:14] <onlinebro> Psinetic: just some old bug in 8.04
[07:14] <phix> mgmuscari: Yes, 9.10 holds your hand more in certain areas than 9.04
[07:14] <mgmuscari> Dr_Willis: i'm just asking for opinions :P. i probably won't. the 8.10->9.04 transition was extremely rocky for me
[07:14] <onlinebro> Psinetic: it sounds like maybe an update took place and broke some files
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> mgmuscari:  i never upgrade, i do clean reinstalls
[07:14] <Psinetic> onlinebro, gayness >_>
[07:14] <phix> mgmuscari: it also includes newer version of programs too
[07:14] <mgmuscari> Dr_Willis: that's what i ended up doing last time...
[07:14] <Jimmio> mgmuscari: Mhm. New awesome package. New encrypted home directory feature
[07:14] <phix> mgmuscari: which means more "features" or bug fixed
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> mgmuscari:  ive been on 9.10 for over a month on 3 machines.. with very few issues
[07:14] <phix> fixes
[07:14] <rockstarrem> clean reinstalls on this version is looking the best way to go because of ext4
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> Yep. for full benifits of ext4  - clean install  is a good idea.
[07:15] <phix> Dr_Willis: Personally I am going to wait til next week before I do that :)
[07:15] <mgmuscari> no ext4 for me, thanks  much :p
[07:15] <rockstarrem> yeah
[07:15] <rockstarrem> lol
[07:15] <phix> what is wrong with ext4?/
[07:15] <newklear85> i hope flash videos run smoothly... that was the main reason i always went back to windows. flash is important enough :P
[07:15] <mgmuscari> phix: my filesystems were ext4 until a few weeks ago
[07:15] <rockstarrem> they should run fine using adobess
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> given the hassles ive heard of people having with other filesystems , ive have heard of very few with ext4
[07:15] <phix> hey, what ever happened to that guy who headed the reiserfs project? is he in jail for killing his wife?
[07:15] <Jimmio> I'm using ext4 already with 9.04..
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> phix:  somthing like that i recall. ;)
[07:16] <phix> mgmuscari: much noticable difference between the two?
[07:16] <newklear85> thanks guys, this chan rules
[07:16] <mgmuscari> phix: when they all started crashing terribly. i managed to remount everything in readonly mode, run out, buy a network storage device, and back things up before they finally went kaput
[07:16] <phix> Dr_Willis: so he is in jail? or he got off?
[07:16] <phix> mgmuscari: hehe, ok, so in other words, dont switch to ext4 yet
[07:16] <phix> I like ext3
[07:16] <Dr_Willis> phix:  i forget..
[07:16] <Psinetic> onlinebro, any ideas on how to fix this? :|
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> I find ext4 faster for the stuff i do.
[07:17] <phix> I used to use reiserfs but I didn't really see the point in using it now
[07:17] <mgmuscari> phix: i ran some diagnostic tests on the disk, no problems there... went back to ext3 and recovered my data, and i have no complaints about ext3
[07:17] <onlinebro> Psinetic: did you run an update recently?
[07:17] <phix> I only used it because ext3 wasn't conceived yet
[07:17] <nuccio> hello,boys,how are you?
[07:17] <Psinetic> onlinebro, i run sudo apt-get update everyday
[07:17] <maco> boys? there are boys on irc? there's no boys on the internet!
[07:17] <DigitalKiwi> reiserfs is nice
[07:17] <phix> Dr_Willis: I might have to google that, I will keep you updated P
[07:17] <phix> :P
[07:18] <Jimmio> How do I defrag ext4? Wikipedia says all partition types get fragmented.
[07:18] <mgmuscari> maco: i often wish that there were some gender-nonspecific pronouns in english to use :p
[07:18] <phix> Dr_Willis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser :)
[07:18] <almoxarife> I can't find a fix link for karmic on 'default alsa sound' volume applet is broke for now, any ideas?
[07:18] <maco> mgmuscari: "folks"?
[07:18] <phix> "On April 28, 2008, Reiser was convicted of the first degree murder of his wife, Nina Reiser, who disappeared in September 2006. On August 29, 2008, Reiser pled guilty to a reduced charge of second degree murder, as part of a settlement agreement that included disclosing the location of Nina Reiser's body."
[07:18] <wgrant> almoxarife: Karmic support is in #ubuntu+1
[07:18] <phix> wow
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> phix:  the reason i dont rember.. is that i never really cared. :P
[07:18] <bigmouth> I would rather use Extend 3 because it is compatile with BSD
[07:19] <phix> Dr_Willis: hehe
[07:19] <almoxarife> thnks
[07:19] <phix> ok, back on topic for me :)
[07:19] <mgmuscari> maco: there's one, but there isn't really one to replace he/she
[07:19] <mgmuscari> in french one might say, "on"
[07:19] <DigitalKiwi> phix: he allegedly murdered his wife and allegedly is in jail!
[07:19] <kic3k> hi all
[07:19] <phix> DigitalKiwi: according to wikipedia
[07:19] <mgmuscari> which is closest to the english colloquial usage of "they"
[07:19]  * Psinetic is tired and needs helping setting up pastebin to a subdomain on his website >_>
[07:19] <DigitalKiwi> still a good filesystem
[07:19] <maco> mgmuscari: "one"? "they" was used gender-neutral singular for several hundreds of years, even by shakespeare. in #ubuntu-women, some of us are partial to "ze"
[07:20] <maco> mgmuscari: though this is ot for this channel
[07:20] <mgmuscari> "ze," i'll try to remember that one
[07:20] <ous6> need help with wireless issue
[07:20] <phix> brb
[07:21] <mgmuscari> frankly, i consider natural languages to be a nuisance due to their ambiguous grammars
[07:21] <bigmouth> What chipsets ar you useing ous6 ?
[07:21] <mgmuscari> so really i'd rather just have some spoken language that could always be parsed in a deterministic way... ah well...
[07:21] <newklear85> last question :) - 32 or 64 bit for linux noob?
[07:22] <onlinebro> brb
[07:22] <onlinebro> 1sec
[07:22] <mgmuscari> newklear85: 64 bit flash player is terrible in linux
[07:22] <ous6> broadcom
[07:22] <newklear85> alright
[07:23] <Brando753> has ubuntu fixed the 2038 bug?
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> mgmuscari:  really? ive heard a great many 9.10 users using it with great success..
[07:23] <mgmuscari> Brando753: the 2038 bug is caused by dates represented in 32 bits
[07:23] <Brando753> Has Anyone seen this Article about Microsoft VS Linux, http://quaoar.ww7.be/ms_fud_of_the_year/569458-microsoft-attack-linux-retail-level-probably.html
[07:23] <wgrant> mgmuscari: It's OK in my case.
[07:23] <bigmouth> newklear85: It depends on weather or not you have over 4gb physical RAN
[07:23] <mgmuscari> Dr_Willis: i'm just going on my personal experience with ext4... i won't be trying it again for a while. at least not until i have the time to mess around with things that may not work correctly
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> mgmuscari:  i was refering to 64bit flash
[07:24] <WilliamC2> It says "No usable monitors detected" or some such
[07:24] <newklear85> i have 3gb... so i won't see a difference in performance?
[07:24] <DigitalKiwi> mgmuscari: 64 bit flash works wonderfully for me
[07:24] <mgmuscari> Dr_Willis: oh. i have it working in my own installation, but i find it to be rather slow and it often freezes
[07:25] <DigitalKiwi> newklear85: if you compile and/or encode a lot you would benefit from 64 bit
[07:25] <newklear85> ok
[07:25] <mgmuscari> actually, i may be using a different flash plugin... let me check...
[07:25] <DigitalKiwi> since you are using ubuntu and had to ask I'll hazard a guess you don't compile a lot ;D
[07:25] <newklear85> nope
[07:26] <Dr_Willis> 64bit really helps me with my video reencodeing stuff.. :)
[07:26] <mojo_o> Brando753: it's not exactly incorrect information.. although the WoW part isn't 100% true
[07:26] <bigmouth> newklear85:  I happen to have AMD based system with 3gb running xubintu ATM
[07:27] <mgmuscari> i'm using the adobe flash plugin
[07:27] <newklear85> ok
[07:27] <newklear85> is it default?
[07:27] <Brando753> mojo_o: really? "Linux is Safer then Windows? :Myth"
[07:28] <DigitalKiwi> lolwut
[07:28] <newklear85> why is it a myth?
[07:28] <mgmuscari> mojo_o: i disagree with a lot of that garbage in those training slides
[07:28] <mojo_o> Brando753: didn't see that one but a lot of what they are saying is true
[07:28] <Brando753> newklear85: that answer was what windows said about linux
[07:29] <mojo_o> Brando753: there are a number of things that aren't true though, i see that
[07:29] <fcuk112> what's the best way to get 2.1 sound from a 5.1 soundcard?
[07:29] <Brando753> mojo_o: "Linux updates and upgrades are easy : Myth"
[07:29] <DigitalKiwi> but some are true, and thus it is not 100% inaccurate, is what you're saying?
[07:29] <maco> hahaah no "authorized support" for linux? ok so what's canonical do again?
[07:29] <mgmuscari> mojo_o: there are at least two conflicting pieces of information: in one part of the article it states that with linux you may not receive regular updates. in another part, it states that the sheer number of linux updates pushed to the user is too overwhelming for the average user.
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> maco:  its not authorized by MS.. :)
[07:29] <DigitalKiwi> what package manager are they using?
[07:29] <maco> DigitalKiwi: who made them god?
[07:30] <mgmuscari> maybe they're referring to DSL
[07:30] <DigitalKiwi> LFS ;D
[07:30] <xiambax> Maco, The masses who buy computers with their software on it?
[07:30] <mojo_o> mgmuscari: i hadn't finished yet, i saw the first few slides :p
[07:30] <xiambax> So Consumers?
[07:30] <Brando753> no they referenced ubuntu in the slides
[07:30] <sifo> hello
[07:31] <maco> hmm and i didnt think mp3 player support was down to 1/3. in fact, i havent found one that wont work. must've made these slides in 2006, before libmtp was written
[07:31] <DigitalKiwi> no experience with dpkg and co. but on my computer updates are generally pretty easy...
[07:31] <mgmuscari> Brando753: yeah, i noticed that... basically, that training class is complete misinformation. but then again, so is almost all corporate training. i know that from my days at A large Telephone and Telecommunications company
[07:31] <DigitalKiwi> at&t? clever
[07:32] <Brando753> mgmuscari:  I Find it a bit strange since Best Buy Sell Ubuntu Install Disks
[07:32] <zack> hi
[07:32] <mgmuscari> DigitalKiwi: for the record, i made no mention of that company that you just mentioned
[07:32] <DigitalKiwi> ok
[07:32] <onlinebro> sorry Psinetic i wasnt able to find much the only thing i could suggest is checking the ubuntu forums
[07:33] <raven_> hello
[07:33] <maco> Brando753: they dont anymore
[07:33] <maco> pulled em 6 months back
[07:33] <joot> !hello
[07:33] <Brando753> maco: really?
[07:33] <DigitalKiwi> dell dropped the non-windows platforms iirc about a month ago?
[07:33] <maco> DigitalKiwi: no that was hp
[07:34] <maco> DigitalKiwi: dell lets you select ubuntu from its filter list on the lef side of the home laptop page
[07:34] <DigitalKiwi> I didn't even know hp ever sold non-windows
[07:34] <mojo_o> Brando753: i'm surprised they didn't try to compare themselves to osx
[07:34] <mgmuscari> i'd like to be able to buy systems without any operating system installed on them
[07:34] <maco> DigitalKiwi: yah the HP Mini Mi had Ubuntu w/ a custom UI they contracted from Canonical
[07:34] <Brando753> mojo_o: I am to
[07:34] <arquebus> is today daylight savings time change?
[07:34] <mgmuscari> since i always end up wiping them as soon as i buy them anyway
[07:35] <Sahkolihaa> In the UK it is.
[07:35] <arquebus> Sahkolihaa: ok, thx
[07:35] <Psinetic> ok, thanks onlinebro
[07:35] <Brando753> mgmuscari: y do you whipe what you paid for?
[07:35] <mojo_o> Brando753: microsoft basically have all the hardware and software manufactures developing for them, linux and to a degree apple get left out, so ms wins most arguments on that side, usually by clever wording
[07:36] <mikey> Does anyone know how to run a command at a certain time or if its off run in on boot? I want to set a screensaver for 9am-9pm and a blank screensaver after that-
[07:36] <mgmuscari> Brando753: i find preinstalled operating systems to be terribly annoying with their trial software and single very large partitions
[07:36] <DigitalKiwi> maco: I only see it on the mini
[07:36] <mgmuscari> mikey: use cron
[07:36] <DigitalKiwi> they used to have it on the vostros iirc and xps(i bought one)
[07:36] <maco> DigitalKiwi: "Mini Mi" v "Mini" is how you tell ubu v win
[07:36] <mikey> but cron doesn't work if the computer's off does it? mgmuscari
[07:36] <maco> DigitalKiwi: oh wait youre talking dell
[07:36] <DigitalKiwi> yes
[07:37] <maco> DigitalKiwi: i saw something other than mini with it last i looked
[07:37] <mgmuscari> mikey: you can't run a screensaver if the computer's off...
[07:37] <DigitalKiwi> maco: when was that though?
[07:37] <maco> month ago? maybe 2?
[07:37] <DigitalKiwi> it was only recently that I heard they dropped it
[07:37] <Bhavic> Dr_Willis: If i've created a /etc/init.d script. How do i use update-rc.d ?
[07:37] <mgmuscari> mikey: oh, i get what you're saying
[07:37] <mikey> mgmuscari, no but if I turn it on and it's between 9pm and 9am I want it changed automatically
[07:38] <DigitalKiwi> 02:33 < DigitalKiwi> dell dropped the non-windows platforms iirc about a month ago?
[07:38] <mgmuscari> mikey: you could put it in the crontab, and also create a boot script that checks what time it is and runs it if it's between 9am-9pm
[07:38] <DigitalKiwi> so 2 months ago they would have still had it if my info is right >.>
[07:38] <mgmuscari> cron might handle that... hmmm...
[07:38] <maco> aye
[07:38] <mikey> mgmuscari, cool nice idea
[07:38] <Brando753>  wait dell still sells non windows right?
[07:38] <maco> Brando753: apparentlyjust on the mini
[07:38] <DigitalKiwi> on laptops only on their minis
[07:39] <maco> Brando753: if youre lookin for ubuntu hardware, i recommend zareason.com
[07:39] <DigitalKiwi> and none on desktops
[07:39] <mgmuscari> mikey: you might be able to figure out a way to just put it in the crontab, but i can't think of it off the top of my head
[07:40] <Bhavic> Anyone know if i've created a script in /etc/init./vnc how do i use update-rc.d, the help file isn;t very useful :P
[07:40] <Brando753> maco: well no im not, i sell my own "ubuntu" high performance desktops
[07:41] <maco> Brando753: ohok
[07:41] <Brando753> maco: it does seem like dell sells ther N tower desktop with ubuntu
[07:41] <maco> Brando753: N = non-windows
[07:42] <zey> hi everybody
[07:42] <mgmuscari> Brando753: are you saying you build desktops, configure them with ubuntu on them, and then sell those to people?
[07:42] <qcjn> hi, i have a samba share that i ve done with mount.cifs //192.xxx.xxx.xxx do i unmount with umount.cifs //192.xxx.xxx.xxx ?
[07:42] <zey> may i ask you something
[07:42] <Brando753> mgmuscari: yes i do, and I plan to sell Laptops very soon
[07:42] <mgmuscari> qcjn: you can just umount the path where you mounted it, too
[07:42] <zey> about wireless on my laptop
[07:42] <mgmuscari> Brando753: how much profit do you typically net per sale?
[07:43] <longtom> Somehow I got it right that my pdf files try to open with Open Office.  Don't ask, how....  How could I convince them that kdf or Adobe reader would be more appropriate?  Any suggestions welcome.
[07:43] <qcjn> mgmuscari: yeah, but can i do it the way i just said, like same command as mount.cifs, but umount
[07:43] <maco> longtom: in gnome? right click > properties > open with...
[07:43] <mgmuscari> qcjn: i think so, i usually just umount /path/to/mnt
[07:44] <Brando753> mgmuscari: it depends on the computer but i dont charge much my $2500 computer would be equivalent to a $5000 alienware
[07:44] <mgmuscari> qcjn: on a related note, do you get error messages and long pauses re: CIFS not responding when you shut down?
[07:44] <mikey> mgmuscari, nah, looking at cron I don't see any mechanism at all to run things at a certain time at boot. I like the init.d idea though
[07:44] <longtom> maco:  Yes - I get that.  However, how can I change the default opening program, which appears to be OO right now.
[07:45] <mgmuscari> Brando753: i need to find a good way to finance parts for my car :D. i've been thinking about building applications for people but building desktops would probably require less long term support
[07:45] <maco> longtom: thats how...
[07:45] <mgmuscari> mikey: i say go for init.d then
[07:45] <raven_> hello - i want to swich the monitor from the vga-connector to the svideo - how can i do that? need the desktop ONLY on svideo-connector
[07:45] <maco> longtom: insted of right click > open with, go to right click> PROPERTIES > open with to change the default
[07:45] <Brando753> mgmuscari: well you would think so until they do something stupid and call you asking what to do :P
[07:46] <mgmuscari> Brando753: i was thinking of building PoS systems for restaurants and mechanics
[07:46] <longtom> maco:  Live can be so easy...  thank you very much!
[07:46] <mgmuscari> Brando753: do you charge for support?
[07:46] <gigo> what is the total number of supported packages in Ubuntu?
[07:46] <maco> longtom: no prob
[07:46] <Brando753> mgmuscari: I do that as well i sell a $300 system with POS software installed in it
[07:46] <mgmuscari> Brando753: did you write the software?
[07:47] <Brando753> mgmuscari: no, but it was built for DOS enviroments so i Set Up a DOSBOX on the computer
[07:47] <mgmuscari> i had a restaurant owner ask me to make her a website and pos system... i'm considering doing it over winter break but i'm worried about having to support her down the road
[07:47] <DigitalKiwi> THIS HARDWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS", WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EXPRESSED OR IMPLIED.... =D
[07:48] <mgmuscari> DigitalKiwi: :p that might hamper my sales a bit
[07:48] <Dr_Willis> Its amazing the license stuff software makers use..
[07:48] <DigitalKiwi> MIT licensed hardware ftw?
[07:48] <Brando753> mgmuscari: well the POS networks so if an order is placed at the Register, a second POS machine will  show the order in the Kitchen :P
[07:48] <zoidfarb> Hey, I'd like to install Ubuntu but preserve an existing /home partition. Is there anything special I need to do?
[07:48] <mgmuscari> Brando753: i was thinking of going with java and mysql
[07:49] <Brando753> zoidfarb: ya you set up a / partition ans set your partition that holds the home file as /home
[07:49] <mgmuscari> zoidfarb: make sure you don't use the autopartitioner when you install, and you might want to remove hidden config files in your /home that could cause problems when you switch distros
[07:49]  * DigitalKiwi always thinks piece of crap* for POS before realizing they probably mean point of sale
[07:49] <mgmuscari> DigitalKiwi: you got it
[07:50] <Brando753> mgmuscari: you will find that a pain in the ass truthfully
[07:50] <mgmuscari> Brando753: java/mysql?
[07:50] <DigitalKiwi> so I read it as "they want a webserver on a crappy computer" and was like, "well that's stupid"
[07:50] <Brando753> I had tried mysql and java it has problems though
[07:50] <mgmuscari> Brando753: i've never had problems with either :)
[07:50] <Brando753> mgmuscari: ya but in a POS enviroment its not the best
[07:51] <mgmuscari> Brando753: i'd say it depends on the scale of the system and how well the software is written
[07:51] <extor> What's a quick and easy way to setup failover and redundancy with two bind namerservers? Make each one a master and slave to the other? And give them multiple IPs?
[07:51] <Brando753> mgmuscari: the Dos program i use is excellent because it works for every type of business
[07:51] <mgmuscari> Brando753: does it support touchscreens?
[07:51] <Brando753> mgmuscari: i just implement DOSBOX to run it
[07:51] <Brando753> its comand line
[07:52] <Brando753> mgmuscari: however its simple comand line
[07:52] <mgmuscari> Brando753: i think i can picture what you're using
[07:52] <roger2> hello, I installed ENVY and selected an ATI driver, restarted, and have a messed up display..it will not boot into the desktop, stays frozen..how do i undo ENVY changes
[07:52] <Brando753> mgmuscari: you type in a product / quantity / and it does the rest :P
[07:52] <mojo_o> it's black or perhaps blue...
[07:52] <mgmuscari> the lady i was talking to definitely wants something with a robust GUI... hence thinking about java
[07:52] <zoidfarb> mgmuscari, thanks. If I have a hidden .folder with config settings for an app that Ubuntu doesn't include, there won't be any conflict, right? Those settings just won't be used?
[07:53] <mgmuscari> zoidfarb: they'll just sit there
[07:53] <stanley> Hi Everybody. For some reason I have sound in skype, but nothing else. MP3's have no sound and neither does anything I listen to through firefox
[07:53] <zoidfarb> mgmuscari, what about like, firefox? Will my bookmarks be preserved? Or will Ubuntu overwrite those with a new .mozilla folder?
[07:53] <mgmuscari> maybe? not sure
[07:54] <mgmuscari> back them up first i guess
[07:54] <mgmuscari> brb
[07:54] <mojo_o> zoidfarb: i don't think so. i think it's created by firefox first run if needed
[07:54] <Brando753> mgmuscari: here is what it looks like http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/8905/posj.jpg
[07:54] <madsj> what's the terminal command for upgrading the distribution ?
[07:54] <mojo_o> zoidfarb: could be wrong though >_>
[07:55] <mgmuscari> X server crashed
[07:55] <mojo_o> Brando753: it *is* blue!
[07:55] <mgmuscari> didn't crash; some weird problem with ati drivers where everything suddenly shifts about 3 inches to the left...
[07:55] <zoidfarb> cool. thanks for the advice everyone. I'm off!
[07:56] <Ademan> is there a way to discover the filesystem of a block device?
[07:56] <dracnoc> madsj: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:56] <mgmuscari> Brando753: i was thinking about messing around with the google web toolkit thing
[07:56] <raven_> hello - i want to swich the monitor from the vga-connector to the svideo - how can i do that? need the desktop ONLY on svideo-connector
[07:56] <Brando753> mojo_o: yes its blue
[07:56] <Blehk> Anyone have luck getting pacemaker to work on ubuntu karmic?
[07:57] <isola73dsh33p> hello
[07:57] <madsj> dracnoc: thanks :-) I was looking for a "dist-upgrade"-command
[07:57] <mojo_o> Brando753: well the only other choice is black, unless you want to go scary o_O
[07:57] <Brando753> mgmuscari: you can try it
[07:57] <isola73dsh33p> i have a question to ask
[07:57] <iceroot> !ask | isola73dsh33p
[07:57] <mgmuscari> Brando753: i basically hate gui development... i would use c++ but i really, really, really don't want to mess around with writing guis
[07:57] <isola73dsh33p> ok..
[07:58] <mgmuscari> !ubottu
[07:58] <Brando753> mgmuscari: i agree i used to use VB when i used windows since switching to ubuntu i havnt found a good alt
[07:58] <mgmuscari> Brando753: D: my memory is scarred by VB6
[07:58] <iceroot> Brando753: python
[07:58] <isola73dsh33p> i run totem from terminal and get deprecation warning saying "sha module is deprecated; ; use the hashlib module instead" what does it means?
[07:58] <ziroday> Brando753: quickly+python+pygtk
[07:58] <mojo_o> mgmuscari: dos was good like that, you write the gui.
[07:58] <mgmuscari> iceroot: i think he's referring to creating window forms
[07:59] <Brando753> iceroot: isnt that a script language more then a program language
[07:59] <ziroday> Brando753: (oh and glade)
[07:59] <mgmuscari> Brando753: there are some great programs written in python
[07:59] <ziroday> Brando753: python is much more of a programming language then VB will ever be
[07:59] <calebH> a package I'm installing depends on postfix, and dpkg wants me to configure postfix to install it, but I don't want to mess with setting up postfix - recommended setting?
[07:59] <Brando753> mgmuscari: but do the shells work like VB in the gui process
[07:59] <Blehk> VB was a programming language? I thought it was a mistake.
[07:59] <iceroot> Brando753: lol, python is much more powerfull then VB
[07:59] <isola73dsh33p> ...
[08:00] <Brando753> but how is the gui design, VB had good GUI designing software
[08:00] <mgmuscari> isola73dsh33p: that means that the old module is no longer supported
[08:00] <iceroot> Brando753: if you want good GUI-design, use Qt :)
[08:00] <isola73dsh33p> where could i find the new module?
[08:00] <Blehk> Brando753: you mean VISUAL STUDIO had good GUI software
[08:00] <ziroday> Brando753: take a look at quickly, it intergrates all the different components (glade, python, pygtk) together
[08:00] <Brando753> Blehk: that and VB Express
[08:00] <mgmuscari> isola73dsh33p: judging from what you're seeing there i think you'd have to change the way totem works
[08:01] <Blehk> Vb express is visual studio without all the goodies.
[08:01] <mgmuscari> ziroday: in aptitude repos?
[08:01] <iceroot> Brando753: also python and Qt are running on every system not only windows like VB
[08:01] <isola73dsh33p> i'm not sure how. I'm new to linux..
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> isola73dsh33p:  if its a warning -its not really a problem
[08:02] <Blehk> And python rocks, and vb ... well. vb is terrible.
[08:02] <Dr_Willis> isola73dsh33p:  its a warning to the programers that the stuff needs tobe changed soon.
[08:02] <mgmuscari> isola73dsh33p: you may not want to bother with it then... warnings aren't a huge deal
[08:02] <Brando753> ya but in vb it was easy to write a program with a gui, in MONODEVELOP i have to write the code then use a seperate GUIprogram
[08:02] <isola73dsh33p> actually there's a problem with my totem when i play in fullscreen mode
[08:02] <iceroot> Blehk: correct
[08:02] <moomeg> I have lost the bar at the bottom of my Ubunt (64) and when I minimise programmes they just vanish. I have been trying for 3 weeks now to find it but I can't. Anyone have any ideas please?
[08:03] <mgmuscari> moomeg: you need to re-add that panel most likely
[08:03] <iceroot> moomeg: right click on the bar, add mini program, then choose the task bar
[08:03] <isola73dsh33p> when i play in full mode, ubuntu crashed...
[08:03] <moomeg> That's what I thought but I'm completely lost trying to find it to add.
[08:03] <isola73dsh33p> i'm not sure what's the problem
[08:03] <kandjar> hi there;
[08:03] <mobi-sheep> !resetpanel | moomeg
[08:03] <isola73dsh33p> its says wlan0 not found or something
[08:04] <ziroday> mgmuscari: no, its in karmic
[08:04] <mgmuscari> moomeg: check out AWN - it's a neat dock that resembles the NexT/Mac OS dock
[08:04] <roger2> does anyone have any guidance how I can undo an ENVY driver install?
[08:04] <mgmuscari> ziroday: well, there's an argument for upgrading to karmic...
[08:04] <moomeg> thanks I'll try now.
[08:05] <mgmuscari> isola73dsh33p: wlan0 not found means that you don't have a wireless device there
[08:05] <thiscomputer> i want to make invisable some of my applications menu options wheres the application for this
[08:05] <kandjar> one quick question: i m installing the 9.10 server beta; partition wise: it set ext4 by default; but i heard of some instability with this new model. which is the advise one?
[08:05] <ziroday> mgmuscari: its out in a week, its a good idea to wait :)
[08:05] <iceroot> kandjar: #ubuntu+1
[08:05] <isola73dsh33p> eh, but my wireless works fine.. :/
[08:05] <Brando753> tried installing quickly, it wont install
[08:05] <mgmuscari> kandjar: if you're uncertain about ext4, use ext3
[08:06] <moomeg> and I'll look into that dock too. No idea how it vanish - I'm guessing it was 'toddler typing' she creeps up on the keyboard and does all sorts of damge. Thanks people.
[08:06] <Brando753> whats diffrent in ext4
[08:06] <kandjar> mgmuscari: :) i was wondering if you guys heard about such or such issue with it?
[08:06] <isola73dsh33p> but every time i get into fullscreen mode, my computer crashed
[08:06] <mobi-sheep> Does anybody here know update-rc.d + /etc/rc.local ? I'm trying to add a daemon to boot startup.
[08:06] <mgmuscari> i'm not sure why totem would complain about wlan0 not being found
[08:06] <mgmuscari> mobi-sheep: read about the system 5 startup architecture
[08:07] <isola73dsh33p> it just happen when i'm in fullscreen mode while playing a video
[08:07] <mgmuscari> isola73dsh33p: sounds more like a graphics driver problem to me
[08:07] <isola73dsh33p> to be specific avi, mp4 files
[08:07] <thiscomputer> im on xubuntu 904 by the way
[08:07] <calebH> mobi-sheep: try reading the 'boot' man page
[08:07] <isola73dsh33p> my compiz works fine.. :/
[08:07] <mgmuscari> isola73dsh33p: well that sounds like a codec issue
[08:07] <isola73dsh33p> i've installed fglrx
[08:07] <mgmuscari> isola73dsh33p: also, just because one thing works, doesn't mean all things will
[08:08] <mgmuscari> and btw - fglrx is full of headaches :)
[08:08] <mgmuscari> i have problems with it regularly
[08:08] <isola73dsh33p> ok, that means i installed the wrong codec?
[08:08] <mostly_useless> so, what is ubuntu? is it edible?
[08:08] <mgmuscari> could just be that your system is barfing on fglrx + compiz + trying to play fullscreen video
[08:08] <rockstarrem> lol
[08:09] <WhiteCrow1> hi guys , i need a mail client , can some body tell my what's the best mail client ?
[08:09] <mostly_useless> can I use it to exercise? can I use it to pick up chicks?
[08:09] <yyl> hi
[08:09] <mgmuscari> isola73dsh33p: i have an ati card as well and it doesn't like fullscreen video
[08:09] <rockstarrem> WhiteCrowl, its all preference but i like Thunderbird. sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[08:09] <isola73dsh33p> hahaha
[08:09] <madsj> dracnoc: it only a few packages to upgrade;
[08:09] <mgmuscari> mostly_useless: you can install pretty much anything you want from the package repositories
[08:09] <madsj> and the kernel is not 2.6.31
[08:09] <mgmuscari> mostly_useless: install python and it'll make you omnipotent
[08:10] <isola73dsh33p> does rendering method could cause this?
[08:10] <mostly_useless> mgmuscari: is there an asain chicks package?
[08:10] <mgmuscari> WhiteCrow1: i enjoy Thunderbird
[08:10] <rockstarrem> mostly_useless: i can confirm there is ;)
[08:10] <mostly_useless> mgmuscari: I like the way you think, sir.
[08:10] <mgmuscari> isola73dsh33p: fglrx isn't fully compatible with compiz
[08:10] <isola73dsh33p> because i don't have rendering method..
[08:10] <ranjan> hi there i am having an issue in confering dns because i got four valuses  i am confused and i am not able to add other values and presently i am using  ubuntu 9.04 ... so pleaze help
[08:10] <mostly_useless> rockstarrem: rock on.
[08:10] <dracnoc> madsj: then it shouldn't take too long to do :)
[08:10] <mgmuscari> isola73dsh33p: specifically there have been problems with fglrx not implementing dri2, which compiz really likes to have
[08:10] <isola73dsh33p> this means i should uninstall compiz?
[08:10] <WhiteCrow1> mgmuscari: ok tns  guys i go to install
[08:11] <mgmuscari> isola73dsh33p: i use compiz
[08:11] <mgmuscari> isola73dsh33p: my system mostly works. it stutters on full screen hd video
[08:11] <Brando753> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:11] <raven_> what are the files for kernel and ramdisk on an ubuntu-install-cd?
[08:11] <madsj> dracnoc: yeah :-) but it seems that it didn't upgrade the things it was supposed to
[08:12] <isola73dsh33p> which file format will your video works?
[08:12] <isola73dsh33p> in fullscreen
[08:12] <mgmuscari> does the install cd use isolinux? i forget
[08:12] <moomeg> moomeg@moomeg-desktop:~$ conftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel/ && killall gnome-panel
[08:12] <moomeg> bash: conftool: command not found
[08:12] <moomeg> moomeg@moomeg-desktop:~$
[08:12] <mgmuscari> isola73dsh33p: i don't really watch video on my machine
[08:12] <thiscomputer> does anyone know how i can make some of my menu options invisable on xubuntu 904
[08:12] <moomeg> sorry having a dumb morning - what am I doing wrong
[08:12] <iceroot> moomeg: gconf
[08:12] <Dr_Willis> isola73dsh33p:  you can just disable compiz.  if you want
[08:12] <mgmuscari> moomeg: sudo apt-get install conftool, maybe
[08:13] <ranjan> hi there i am having an issue in confering dns because i got four valuses  i am confused and i am not able to add other values and presently i am using  ubuntu 9.04 ... so pleaze help
[08:13] <kismet> hey, i have problems with my banshee player.. when i switch to the next track the cpu goes to 100% for almost 30 seconds
[08:13] <isola73dsh33p> no compiz its the same as windows.. T_T
[08:13] <mgmuscari> isola73dsh33p: try running metacity --replace from a command line, and then see if your video will work in full screen mode
[08:13] <kismet> and during playing music my avarage cpu usage is 10%
[08:13] <dracnoc> madsj: have you got all the repositories selected? Use "Software Sources" in your Admin menu and check.
[08:13] <isola73dsh33p> ok.. i'll try it now
[08:13] <moomeg> tar - i was blind to that one :o)
[08:13] <kismet> or higher
[08:13] <iceroot> moomeg: mgmuscari its calles gconftool
[08:13] <mostly_useless> compiz is a beast that can not be fed. be forwarned ye opensource users.
[08:13] <Sahkolihaa> oO
[08:13] <ranjan> hi there i am having an issue in confering dns because i got four valuses  i am confused and i am not able to add other values and presently i am using  ubuntu 9.04 ... so pleaze help
[08:13] <mojo_o> kismet: that's high
[08:13] <mgmuscari> mostly_useless: i've tamed my compiz
[08:14] <Sahkolihaa> My Compiz runs nicely too.
[08:14] <mojo_o> kismet: unless you're on a 586..
[08:14] <kismet> mojo_o: yeah thats what i thought as well .. but i can not figure out why
[08:14] <Dr_Willis> mgmuscari:  over came your CUBE addiction?
[08:14] <mojo_o> kismet: tried a different player?
[08:14] <mostly_useless> mgmuscari: then you are the chosen one spoken of in the man lore. I am at your service, my lord.
[08:14] <kismet> mojo_o: lol no i am on a laptop with 2.13 ghz
[08:14] <mgmuscari> Dr_Willis: i end up grouping and tabbing things more frequently than i actually use the cube
[08:14] <isola73dsh33p> compiz the cause.. =_=
[08:14] <Aleksandrit> any software for recording fragments of online-video-transmission?
[08:15] <Dr_Willis> mgmuscari:  i never have figured out the group/tabing features of compiz..  i did find a nice setting to put ROOT: in the title of all windows running stuff as root. :)
[08:15] <isola73dsh33p> my totem works fine in fullscreen in metacity
[08:15] <kismet> mojo_o: tried amarok... but amarok won't play my music at all.. if i go to sound config and play test sound i hear something
[08:15] <calebH> mostly_useless: compiz is 100% stable on my system too - I can't live without my compiz
[08:15] <mostly_useless> calebH: well, everyone has their poison. mine is ketamine and meth.
[08:15] <raven_> what are the files for kernel and ramdisk on an ubuntu-install-cd?
[08:15] <roger2> hello..looking for guidance..how do i uninstall/undo ENVY changes made to my video driver..?
[08:16] <mgmuscari> dr_willis: the grouping and tabbing is cool. i usually group all my internet windows together, then all my consoles together, and all my IDE windows together. then i use maximumize to make them all fit in appropriate spaces, and i can alt tab between groups, then flip between windows in the group. very handy
[08:16] <mojo_o> kismet: i use mpd, and that's console so you're probably not interested in that kind of thing
[08:16] <isola73dsh33p> btw, thank for answering. God my video working fine in metacity..
[08:16] <mgmuscari> isola73dsh33p: disable compiz when you want to watch fullscreen video then - you can install the Compiz Fusion Icon to select window managers easily
[08:16] <XGenster> Greetings all
[08:16] <kismet> mojo_o: no.. i would like to use that to manage my music and sync my ipod
[08:17] <mgmuscari> mojo_o: check out the Ario client for MPD
[08:17] <isola73dsh33p> thanks mgmuscari :D
[08:17] <calebH> kismet: is there some reason why you're not using Rhythmbox?
[08:17] <mgmuscari> isola73dsh33p: np
[08:17] <nutterpc> OGMRip, such a lovely program
[08:17] <mojo_o> kismet: you could try audacious
[08:17] <mgmuscari> mojo_o: btw, i love my MPD setup, and i love having mpod to control it with on my iphone :D
[08:18] <mojo_o> mgmuscari: theres a python gui i've been using for mpd if i get the urge ;-)
[08:18] <mgmuscari> kismet: i was using xmms2 and Exaile to manage my ipod for a while